[12:03] <robotgeek> nixternal: lol
[12:03] <nixternal> i wonder if my puter is slowin' down now cuz i am running 6 desktops
[12:03] <nixternal> god i love that feature
[12:05] <slow-motion> n8
[12:07] <wasp_ems> anyone use ktorrent?
[12:07] <kOpter> Net split ... Net merge :)
[12:07] <kOpter> Yeah, and it's pretty bad
[12:08] <wasp_ems> any better ideas?
[12:08] <DaSkreech> It does Bad Weird Strange (c) things to my Torrents
[12:08] <EvilIdler> KTorrent is atrocious. Couldn't recognise existing files for me, has no options for speed limiting
[12:08] <kOpter> azureus
[12:08] <wasp_ems> does anyone use dc++?
[12:09] <EvilIdler> Azureus for advanced needs, multifile on a single limit. BitTornado for a file at a time.
[12:09] <kOpter> Qtorrent is also... workable
[12:09] <DaSkreech> Why does Ktorrent ship by default then?
[12:10] <stevekl> I can't get a mount point to mount automaticaly at startup, I removed 'noauto' from the options in fstab but it won't mount...any ideas?
[12:10] <stevekl> I mean it will mount but not automaticaly at boot time
[12:10] <kOpter> Because it fits in the KDE filosophy
[12:10] <EvilIdler> stevekl: Filesystem? Tried the auto flag?
[12:10] <wasp_ems> so any good torrent that has no problems?
[12:10] <kOpter> Azeurus
[12:10] <stevekl> EvilIdler: it's ext3...I didn't know there was an 'auto' flag
[12:10] <stevekl> heh
[12:10] <EvilIdler> wasp_ems: Azureus, BitTornado
[12:11] <EvilIdler> stevekl: It shouldn't be needed, though, not for a harddrive
[12:11] <wasp_ems> ok..thanx..i know dc++ is really good but i do not seem to find anywhere how to set it up whereas in windows i can easily do it
[12:11] <EvilIdler> stevekl: This is my fatab entry for the root partition: /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[12:12] <stevekl> EvilIdler: well it's not a hard drive per se, it's a hard drive in an external enclosure
[12:12] <stevekl> it's /dev/sdasomething
[12:12] <stevekl> does that make a difference?
[12:12] <EvilIdler> wasp_ems: In my opinion, none of the DC clients in Linux are good. I've been meaning to port the UI of DC++ to wx myself at some point..but so many programming projects ;)
[12:12] <EvilIdler> stevekl: Then it's a harddrive. USB/FW devices are considered the same as internal ones on the systems where I have them
[12:13] <tuxedup> i have a quick question about kubutnu.  Is it a stock KDE or is it modified at all with twaeks for the ubuntu base or anything?
[12:13] <stevekl> EvilIdler: hm ok
[12:13] <stevekl> I'm still not sure why it won't mount
[12:13] <EvilIdler> stevekl: What's the fstab entry?
[12:13] <stevekl> /dev/sda1       /home/stevekl/bigmedia     ext3    defaults,auto        0       0
[12:14] <stevekl> I just added auto
[12:14] <EvilIdler> stevekl: Seems alright to me..is it USB or firewire?
[12:14] <EvilIdler> stevekl: Is the entry AFTER mounting /home?
[12:14] <exhale> is anyone here using logitech mx518?
[12:14] <stevekl> It's USB
[12:15] <EvilIdler> stevekl: You also have no guarantee that it actually gets mounted after /home, I think..
[12:15] <stevekl> EvilIdler: it is after /home yeah
[12:15] <stevekl> ohhhhhhhhh
[12:15] <stevekl> Yeah that might be the problem
[12:15] <EvilIdler> stevekl: fstab mounts all devices in parallel, if I remember correctly
[12:15] <stevekl> nested mount points = confusion
[12:15] <EvilIdler> stevekl: I know a fix, though
[12:15] <h3sp4wn> You just need to change the number
[12:16] <EvilIdler> stevekl: Just make a "mountusb" script or something, then link it into /etc/rc2.d/ as S99something
[12:16] <EvilIdler> 0 1 instead of 0 0?
[12:16] <stevekl> yeah
[12:16] <stevekl> Oh yeah
[12:16] <h3sp4wn> 0 3
[12:16] <stevekl> I forgot all about that pass and dump system
[12:16] <h3sp4wn> (if you have other stuff on the other ones)
[12:17] <stevekl> so I should change /dev/sda1 to 0-1?
[12:17] <EvilIdler> The documentation for all those flags seems to be a bit everywhere :)
[12:17] <EvilIdler> stevekl: 0 3
[12:17] <wasp_ems> i am having a problem..at some points everything starts to freeze..if i logout and in again it is ok.it is the quivalent of explorer getting stuck in windows..any help?
[12:17] <stevekl> why 0 3?
[12:17] <h3sp4wn> stevekl: look in fstab root is probably on 0 1 any other partitions probably 0 2 so you want 0 3 to guarantee its last
[12:17] <stevekl>  /home is 0 0
[12:18] <h3sp4wn> my /home is 0 2
[12:18] <EvilIdler> The last flag is order, so 3 should be right
[12:18] <stevekl> The first number is when to check it with fsck right?
[12:18] <stevekl> I wonder if KDE has a gui for this
[12:19] <patrick_> ahmeni, Thanks for your help the other day with adept. I had a friend who edited my sources.list and now it works like a charm. Plus, I downloaded synaptic and will give it a try.
[12:19] <EvilIdler> stevekl: qtparted, probably
[12:19] <ahmeni> patrick_: no problem :)
[12:19] <exhale> is anyone using a logitech mx mouse with ubuntu?
[12:19] <stevekl> EvilIdler: ok thanks for all the help
[12:20] <patrick_> Just have to tweak the theme manager. I wasn't able to install any themes today. Maybe I missed a step. Oh well.
[12:20] <stevekl> I think changing that one flag will do it
[12:20] <kOpter> Does anyone know if a Geforce 2 MX will be enough for XGL?
[12:20] <EvilIdler> Yes, next reboot should do the right thing
[12:20] <EvilIdler> kOpter: Someone else on the channel earlier had something older than that working nice and fast
[12:21] <h3sp4wn> stevekl: You may have to run mount -a from /etc/rc.local or something if the usb takes too long to settle on bootup
[12:21] <kOpter> Hmm.. might be worth buying a second hand Geforce (PCI) then..
[12:21] <rjb> hello
[12:22] <wasp_ems> can someone tell me what to do..everything just starts to freeze..what the fuck is wrong.
[12:22] <kOpter> Caus my ubuntu Barebone will only take PCI :X
[12:22] <stevekl> wasp_ems: you'll need to be more specific
[12:22] <rjb> Q: WTF is broken with amarok & mp3 in dapper??
[12:22] <jak08> I have a Q. does kubuntu have kppp pre installed on it?
[12:22] <kOpter> no
[12:22] <wasp_ems> well either konqueror crashes either adept crashes either anything i have opened crashes and then it moves from one thing to the other until it is all stuck
[12:23] <DaSkreech> wasp_ems: Language
[12:23] <EvilIdler> jak08: It's installed here on my default installation
[12:23] <kOpter> jak08 it's not on my default installation
[12:23] <wasp_ems> DaSkreech: what do u mean/
[12:23] <EvilIdler> In other words, 'it depends' :P
[12:23] <jak08> ok thank you
[12:23] <kOpter> Running Dapper Drake.
[12:24] <EvilIdler> Breezy here
[12:24] <Bilford> if KWin crashes, do you have to reboot
[12:24] <kOpter> Aha :)
[12:24] <EvilIdler> Removed it now
[12:24] <EvilIdler> Bilford: Reboot?!
[12:24] <Bilford> yes
[12:24] <EvilIdler> I don't see why you'd need that, unless you replace hardware or a kernel
[12:24] <Bilford> when it crashed, my taskbar disappeared, and windows lost their normal functionality
[12:25] <Bilford> I ran  kwin again from terminal, but windows were still messed up
[12:25] <kOpter> Broken hardware?
[12:25] <Bilford> also, how do you refresh the  Start menu after installing new programs.  sometimes they dont show up unless you reboot
[12:26] <stevekl> Is there a difference between 'chmod -R xxx /whatever/*' and 'chmod xxx /whatever/*'
[12:27] <rjb> stevkl, -R is recursive
[12:27] <EvilIdler> Just log out and back in, ctrl-alt-backspace is the emergency key-combination
[12:28] <Bilford> ok ty
[12:28] <EvilIdler> Bilford: Log out and back in, not reboot :)
[12:28] <rjb> ok lemme ask again: is anyone able to play an mp3 with amarok on dapper??
[12:28] <Bilford> ok good
[12:29] <EvilIdler> There's never any need for reboots when it's a plain software problem
[12:29] <EvilIdler> Only kernel issues and hardware
[12:29] <Bilford> it's easy to spot a former Windows user, I guess
[12:29] <Bilford> I only switched about 2 weeks ago
[12:29] <mardi> hi, some one help with how i best testing my vid card with kubuntu?
[12:29] <EvilIdler> Bilford: Indeed :)
[12:30] <mardi> i get 3000s with glxgears
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> Evilidler: I have had unexplainable lockups when I have updated all of xorg and not rebooted (so I do now)
[12:30] <Bilford> I think the main thing new people to Linux need to learn is: basically everything is configurable.  if you dont like something, dont cry and give up.  you can configure it
[12:31] <EvilIdler> h3sp4wn: If you remove the 'taint' from memory (rmmod nvidia), and reload, there shouldn't be any need to
[12:31] <HymnToLife> and "you don"t need to reboot twice a week"
[12:32] <HymnToLife> all in all "Linux is not Windows" :D
[12:32] <mardi> tuxcart runs kinda dodgy tho, and crashed once
[12:33] <h3sp4wn> Tainted modules rarely remove cleanly in my experience
[12:33] <h3sp4wn> apart from ath_hal
[12:33] <stevekl> Is there an easy way to 'mirror' my KDE preferences between two computers (same version of KDE)? Can I just copy ~/.kde/ or is there more to it than that?
[12:33] <kOpter> rjb: Yeah, no problem
[12:33] <EvilIdler> Well, I only use one tainted module, nvidia, and it plays nice here.
[12:33] <EvilIdler> YMMV etc. :)
[12:36] <mardi> i've installed the xorg-driver-fglrx for my asus raedon 9600xt
[12:37] <rjb> hey, doesn't anyone here use amarok to play mp3's?
[12:37] <kOpter> rjb: Yeah, no problem
[12:37] <rjb> nope, on dapper & amd64 it doesn't work
[12:37] <kOpter> Fresh dapper install?
[12:37] <stevekl> you need the gstreamer mp3 package thingie
[12:38] <rjb> dist-upgrade from breezy
[12:38] <h3sp4wn> mardi: According to the release note of xorg 7 Upto 9600XT is supported by the 'radeon' driver now
[12:38] <nixternal> initNG....   sudo ng-update add daemon/???
[12:39] <mardi> h3sp4wn: sweet, i'm wondering how i ensure it's working the best it can now though
[12:39] <rjb> stevekl, there seems to be no gstreamer-plugin for dapper's amarok
[12:39] <mardi> h3sp4wn: the graphics and gui seems 'loagy'
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> fglrx is poor (I know I use it but on a 9800pro)
[12:40] <kOpter> rjb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:40] <rjb> kOpter i know that
[12:40] <kOpter> rjb: Then what's the problem?
[12:40] <rjb> i had it working fine in breezy
[12:41] <rjb> thye problem is it doesn't work, plain & simple
[12:41] <kOpter> Did you read the page?
[12:41] <kOpter> And the amarok notes?
[12:41] <rjb> sure
[12:41] <kOpter> like: Amarok needs libxine-extracordecs for mp3 support?
[12:41] <rjb> sure, & i got them
[12:41] <nixternal> sudo ng-update add daemon/gdm    <-- is that good for kubuntu using initNG?
[12:42] <kOpter> Ok, so what is not working?
[12:42] <rjb> mp3 playback in amarok
[12:42] <kOpter> Selected the Xine engine in the config panel?
[12:42] <nixternal> sudo ng-update add daemon/kdm  <-- or that
[12:42] <rjb> refused to load
[12:42] <rjb> & reverted to the arts engine
[12:43] <kOpter> Selected the Xine engine in the config panel?
[12:43] <rjb> see above
[12:43] <kOpter> You can't load the Xine engine?
[12:43] <rjb> the xine engine refuses to load
[12:43] <kOpter> Thats weird
[12:43] <rjb> shit if it weren't i wouldn't be asking here :P
[12:44] <rjb> would i do better to purge all the old gstreamer-0.8 packages, say?
[12:44] <nixternal> is cpu frequency scaling really needed in initNG for an athlon xp?
[12:45] <kOpter> Xine has nothing to do with gestreamer
[12:45] <rjb> so i thought
[12:45] <rjb> but wtf do i know
[12:46] <kOpter> Tried reinstalling the Xine libs?
[12:46] <nixternal> ok...initNG done...wish me luck as i reboot
[12:46] <nixternal> muhahaha
[12:47] <rjb> no, but tried an upgrade to the beta amarok
[12:47] <rjb> didn't work either
[12:47] <rjb> the 1.4 announced on kubuntu's front page
[12:48] <rjb> now i do have the xine engine enabled
[12:48] <rjb> arts engine not available anymore though
[12:49] <rjb> but mp3's aren't played anyway
[12:49] <kOpter> weird stuff.. I'm afraid I can't help you there
[12:49] <bubblenut> Hi, I've just upgraded to dapper and my wireless card (eth1) is no longer visible
[12:49] <rjb> heh it just rescanned my collection & all mp3's vanished from it
[12:49] <bubblenut> when I run sudo ifup eth1=home I get the following error
[12:50] <rjb> seems not to recognize the format at all
[12:50] <kOpter> Is your DB running?
[12:50] <rjb> what DB?
[12:50] <kOpter> Amarok Database
[12:50] <rjb> amarok uses sqlite afaik
[12:51] <bubblenut> http://pastebin.com/725612
[12:51] <kOpter> Yeah, but it doesn't like old databases
[12:51] <bubblenut> Anyone got any areas on where I should start looking?
[12:51] <EvilIdler> bubblenut: Try eth2?
[12:51] <rjb> so what, on a rescan it would rebuild it, right?
[12:51] <EvilIdler> bubblenut: Or perhaps it's athX
[12:51] <nixternal> well....
[12:51] <nixternal> initNG sure does boot fast...but my net settings are borked
[12:51] <kOpter> rjb: Deleting it will
[12:52] <crazy_penguin> bye all. good night and pleasent dreams.
[12:52] <bubblenut> Evil|dler, these don't work either, how can I find out which I should be using?
[12:52] <rjb> bingo
[12:52] <rjb> it was a DB issue
[12:52] <bubblenut> Is it just a matter of trial and error?
[12:52] <EvilIdler> nixternal: I've got sysvinit booting fast here. How slow was the old one for you?
[12:53] <rjb> or collection issue
[12:53] <nixternal> very slow
[12:53] <nixternal> it boots whicked fast now...but my net settings are hosed
[12:53] <nixternal> i can't activate eth0
[12:53] <nixternal> no ifconfig
[12:53] <rjb> when i load a file from the Files tab instead of the collection, it works
[12:53] <EvilIdler> bubblenut: I have a server with two NICs, and upon install, I had eth0 for the gigabit and eth1 for the other. Then suddenly it was eth1 and eth2, and eth0 didn't exist ever again.
[12:53] <nixternal> stupid wiki said to remove ifupdown-debain and use NetworkSettings
[12:53] <rjb> kOpter: thx for the hint :)
[12:53] <klerfayt> why you need to boot fast?
[12:54] <EvilIdler> I boot in seconds, but it's not something I need very often.
[12:55] <kOpter> rjb your collection is broken.. remove it
[12:55] <bubblenut> hmm, is there some command I can run to display what network devices my machine thinks are available?
[12:56] <spire> It seems that the konqueror "Go" menu is disabled. How do I find the autostart pseudo folder then? -I need to make some apps start automatically upon login
[12:56] <r1ch1e> whoa...this things boots way to fast and reboots even faster
[12:57] <r1ch1e> oh now its really borked
[12:57] <NotWired> borked?
[12:57] <r1ch1e> screwed up big time
[12:57] <kOpter> broken :)
[12:57] <NotWired> lol
[12:57] <NotWired> oh
[12:57] <nixternal`v2> my loard
[12:58] <kOpter> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borked
[12:58] <kOpter> Internet slang, corruption of broken; Completely and utterly broken. c.f. fubar
[12:59] <NotWired> fubar i understand! :-)
[12:59] <nixternal`v2> Internet slang, corruption of broken; Completely and utterly broken. c.f. fubar
[12:59] <nixternal`v2> exactly how i meant it ;D
[12:59] <kOpter> Wikipedia to the rescue
[12:59] <nixternal`v2> haha
[01:00] <EvilIdler> Vista specs are out. It's official: NVidia and Ati are going to make a fortune.
[01:01] <EvilIdler> I should try Xgl one of these days..
[01:01] <EvilIdler> 40GB harddrive as a requirement for the OS. Whee.
[01:02] <NotWired> ouch
[01:02] <nixternal`v2> i am switching back to the slow, but guaranteed to work init
[01:02] <nixternal`v2> holy cow that was bad
[01:02] <EvilIdler> Also 1GB memory minimum. I can understand that for games and servers, but not a desktop OS
[01:02] <NotWired> and i'vd got kubuntu running very well from a 6GB partition
[01:03] <EvilIdler> Yeah, I retired my ancient 8GB IBM HD a few months ago, only because it was starting to smell
[01:03] <NotWired> lol
[01:03] <EvilIdler> It had started to smell like a garage
[01:05] <bubblenut> how strange, I did another reboot and it's all fine now
[01:05] <Bilford> 40 gb ? wtf
[01:05] <Bilford> why do you need 40 gb
[01:05] <NotWired> bloatware
[01:05] <EvilIdler> 40GB drive with 15GB free space. That implies Vista eats 25GB
[01:05] <Bilford> wow
[01:05] <EvilIdler> I just can't believe an OS that comes with next to NO useful applications can eat that much drivespace
[01:05] <nixternal`v2> go freenode go
[01:06] <nixternal`v2> that is 2 reboots now
[01:06] <EvilIdler> No devkit, no textprocessing beyond notepad and write
[01:06] <Bilford> thats about 18,000 floppies
[01:07] <Bilford> Windows 3.11 came on about 10 floppies
[01:07] <EvilIdler> Several of them being optional :)
[01:07] <Bilford> lol
[01:07] <NotWired> that didn't make it any better
[01:07] <EvilIdler> Less worse, perhaps
[01:08] <nixternal`v2> when is the other one gonna time out already
[01:08] <nixternal`v2> note to self....damn...keyboard is broke...can't leave a note to self....ctrl+alt+del
[01:09] <EvilIdler> I use irc.debian.org and get connected to a random author-named server. IRC roulette :)
[01:09] <nixternal`v2> well...chalk it down for my first initNG experience as...NOT GOOD
[01:09] <nixternal`v2> i will mess with it later...when i have nothing else better to do
[01:10] <nixternal`v2> it did boot...and it booted fast...but net was gone and then the 2nd boot...everything was huge
[01:10] <nixternal`v2> im next
[01:10] <EvilIdler> I tried InitNG once. Packages got messed up, and I had nothing to boot my system.
[01:11] <nixternal`v2> i can feel it
[01:11] <nixternal`v2> well..i added it to my grub menu...so i was safe
[01:11] <EvilIdler> I had no init program afterwards. Had to set bash as my init.
[01:11] <nixternal`v2> oooh
[01:11] <nixternal`v2> that sux
[01:12] <EvilIdler> Thank goodness for componentised OSes :)
[01:12] <nixternal`v2> haha ya
[01:12] <EvilIdler> Take a working shell here, a working, static mount command+editor there, fix the problems
[01:12] <nixternal`v2> yes...that is lovely...cuz that is what just fixed my entire issue
[01:13] <nixternal`v2> when it booted the 2nd time....everything was so huge, that only the top left portion of the screen normally was visible...and you couldn't get to anywhere else
[01:13] <nixternal`v2> booted into term...and wallah...it's fixed
[01:16] <bubblenut> I'm having a problem with fuse now
[01:16] <Bilford> Microsoft's reign is coming to a swift end
[01:16] <bubblenut> If I try to mount a drive with sshfs I get the following error
[01:17] <Bilford> people are going to switch to Kubuntu
[01:17] <bubblenut> fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory
[01:17] <xwolf--> i'm having a problem here... cant connect to www.names.something, but can do with their IPs... seems to be a dns problem on breezy livecd, how do i fix that
[01:17] <bubblenut> Anyone got any ideas about this? I've tried re-installing libfuse2 and sshfs
[01:17] <nixternal> w00t...gparted has a livecd now...better than partition magic...oh that so rox
[01:17] <xwolf--> i already did 'sudo route add default gw 192.168.254.254' and can reach the router... but cant connect
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> bubblenut: do you not use shfs ? did you have to build it initially using module assistant ?
[01:21] <nixternal> http://static.flickr.com/51/147862379_89d4dce2ec.jpg?v=0    <-- damn you simon...looks like you guys are having way to much fun at debconf
[01:31] <nixternal> hmm
[01:33] <c0llin> is there a way to disable Bell in Konsole?
[01:34] <nixternal> good question...cuz i want to do the same thing now that you said something
[01:34] <nixternal> yup
[01:34] <joscha> c0llin: settings  - signal
[01:34] <nixternal> right click in konsole > settings > bell > none
[01:35] <c0llin> is there a way to keep it off so it doesnt start up next time?
[01:37] <nixternal> http://www.turnto10.com/news/9237767/detail.html   <-- think you have a problem
[01:37] <nixternal> dude left behind 70,000 beer cans
[01:38] <wasp_ems> i downloaded quake 4 how do i install it?
[01:39] <NotWired> lol nixternal
[01:39] <NotWired> beeeeeeeeer
[01:39] <nixternal> hahah
[01:39] <nixternal> that is nuts
[01:39] <NotWired> hey, he said he now has a job and no longer drinks
[01:40] <nixternal> ya...and he no longer has a liver
[01:40] <nixternal> lol
[01:40] <NotWired> question is, would you clean up those cans for the $800 recycle fee
[01:41] <nixternal> probably
[01:41] <nixternal> that is another kubuntu machine ;D
[01:41] <NotWired> must of taken a bunch of trips
[01:41] <NotWired> lol
[01:41] <wasp_ems> konqueror crashed and i got an error of signal 6..backtrace does not work as it says the debugger was not found..any ideas?
[01:42] <nixternal> signal 6 ey.
[01:42] <nixternal> hmmm
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> read the post on ubuntu forums about building packages with debug symbols
[01:42] <wasp_ems> other times i get signal 11
[01:42] <nixternal> signal 11 i have seen b4
[01:42] <nixternal> 6 is new to me
[01:42] <wasp_ems> and why is debugger gdb not found?
[01:43] <nixternal> cuz gdb isnt' installed
[01:43] <wasp_ems> ok
[01:43] <wasp_ems> so how do i install it..so we can see why i am getting these signals
[01:43] <nixternal> have you tried to reinstall it through synaptic or adept?
[01:43] <wasp_ems> reinstall what?
[01:43] <nixternal> sounds almost like some required files weren't installed along with it
[01:44] <nixternal> konqueror
[01:44] <NotWired> sudo apt-get install gdb?
[01:44] <nixternal> i had the same issue on breezy...and a reinstall fixed it...i think i had some lib files get hung up and not install correctly
[01:44] <wasp_ems> so should i remove and then re install konqueror?
[01:45] <nixternal> you can always try it....at least install gdb to get more info on it
[01:45] <wasp_ems> ok thanx
[01:45] <wasp_ems> any ideas about installing quake?
[01:45] <nixternal> oh wow...q4?
[01:46] <wasp_ems> the demo
[01:46] <nixternal> there are a ton of q1, q2, and q3 how-tos out there...but i dunno about q4
[01:46] <wasp_ems> i have the full game for windows though
[01:46] <wasp_ems> in general how do u install a file or program?
[01:46] <nixternal> http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4
[01:47] <wasp_ems> thanx
[01:47] <nixternal> np
[01:48] <Bilford> do Windows games run faster in Cedega than they do in Windows
[01:49] <NotWired> what is cedega? wine type thing?
[01:49] <Bilford> yes, for games
[01:49] <NotWired> i doubt it then
[01:49] <Bilford> runs pretty much every game there is
[01:49] <wasp_ems> what is cedega?
[01:50] <Bilford> WineX
[01:50] <wasp_ems> ok
[01:50] <Bilford> http://www.transgaming.com/products_linux.php
[01:50] <NotWired> gotta be extra overhead there so i can't see anything running faster... maybe close on some though
[01:50] <Bilford> but it costs money
[01:51] <NotWired> people sell lots of slow software :-)
 people sell lots of slow software :-)
[01:51] <nixternal> LOL
[01:52] <nixternal> Microsoft for one
[01:52] <NotWired> that one does come to mind
[01:52] <nixternal> i have never installed nor used Wine
[01:52] <NotWired> i have in the early days... but it's been years now
[01:52] <nixternal> the only thing i use windows for...autocad
[01:52] <Bilford> Windows is extra overhead
[01:52] <nixternal> that is it
[01:53] <NotWired> i plan on trying it for my tax software next year
[01:53] <nixternal> im not a coder...
[01:53] <nixternal> well...i just use irs.gov..they have a spot where you can file online
[01:54] <NotWired> i'm in canuckland
[01:54] <NotWired> none of the commercial guys have linux versions
[01:54] <Bilford> well
[01:54] <NotWired> other than that, i can pretty much anything i want in linux
[01:54] <Bilford> most of them have online versions
[01:54] <nixternal> haha
[01:54] <Bilford> I did mine online
[01:54] <Bilford> TurboTax
[01:54] <nixternal> my dad swears by turbotax
[01:55] <Bilford> online?
[01:55] <nixternal> yup
[01:55] <nixternal> he loves it
[01:55] <Bilford> he mustve gotten a refund
[01:55] <NotWired> does it use java or straight webbrowser forms?
[01:55] <nixternal> i have used turbo tax since about 98
[01:55] <nixternal> prior to them i used one by kiplingers
[01:55] <Bilford> I think Ajax now.  I dont know though
[01:56] <nixternal> i filed my first online return in 1996
[01:56] <nixternal> i was in the military then
[01:56] <NotWired> i do them on pc but still print and mail
[01:56] <NotWired> especially if i owe them
[01:56] <nixternal> haha ya
[01:56] <nixternal> me too
[01:56] <Bilford> why
[01:56] <NotWired> bad enough if i i gotta pay, make them work for my $$$
[01:56] <nixternal> actually i haven't owed the irs anything...
[01:56] <nixternal> lol
[01:57] <Bilford> more work for you though
[01:57] <NotWired> nah, i fill in online and print
[01:57] <NotWired> just a little more than e-file
[02:04] <wasp_ems> do u know how i can setup k3b so i can use files from my network?
[02:04] <Bilford> ...
[02:12] <steve> Anybody know when about a pre-built WINE 0.9.13 will be available?
[02:14] <sorcre> Hello, has anyone gotten 3D acceleration working on Dapper (with an Nvidia card)?
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> sorcre: Have you just dist-upgraded ?
[02:17] <sorcre> h3sp4wn: I actually installed Ubuntu (installed kubundu desktop later)
[02:18] <sorcre> h3sp4wn: Whenever I install the driver it screws up X for me
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> sorcre: Have you just done apt-get dist-upgrade or used synaptic or something similar ?
[02:19] <sorcre> h3sp4wn: Yea, I've done that.
[02:19] <h3sp4wn> sorcre: run uname -a (from a terminal)
[02:20] <sorcre> Linux Wii 2.6.15-22-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun May 7 17:27:47 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:21] <wasp_ems> how can i change my font color on the konsole?
[02:21] <h3sp4wn> sorcre: There is no reason why it shouldn't work with that kernel that I know of  (2.6.15-23-k7 has no restricted modules yet)
[02:21] <wasp_ems> i have made it transparent but i cannot see what it says
[02:21] <wasp_ems> i cannot find where u change it from
[02:21] <sorcre> h3sp4wn: I tried with different kernels as well... I have no idea why it's not working... I'm going to try again. Should I use apt?
[02:23] <h3sp4wn> sorcre: Have you followed the nvidia wiki ?
[02:23] <sorcre> h3sp4wn: Yes, I've tried both ways (apt and installing it from Nvidia's site)
[02:24] <h3sp4wn> sorcre: You are best off using apt (Unless you have a specific card that is not supported by the drivers in apt)
[02:24] <wasp_ems> how can i install a binary?
[02:25] <wasp_ems> i downloaded my graphc card driver
[02:25] <sorcre> g3sp4wn: Alright, I'll try it. Thanks
[02:26] <h3sp4wn> sorcre: Can you think of anything non standard about your setup (tv connected etc)
[02:26] <mardi> whats the command to see the version of kubuntu i'm running?
[02:26] <wasp_ems> anyone want to help me?
[02:27] <klerfayt> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDefaultSettings - "desktop icons 32" is contradicting with "Icon size: 64"
[02:27] <h3sp4wn> mardi: cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:28] <klerfayt> oh sorry my mistake
[02:28] <mardi> h3sp4wn: sweet, thanks
[02:31] <Bilford> Kwin crashed again
[02:32] <Bilford> what are the most common things that cause that
[02:44] <Andruk> if i install kubuntu alongside XP and Debian Sarge, will Grub be able to pick it all up?
[02:44] <Bilford> Grub picks up Windows
[02:45] <Andruk> what aboot debian?
[02:46] <Bilford> I dont know
[02:48] <Andruk> cool, thc
[02:48] <Andruk> *thx
[03:02] <Ahmuck> plone does not work
[03:46] <wasp_ems> is it normal to have 83 processes running?
[03:48] <ahmeni> could be, if your system is set up that way
[03:49] <wasp_ems> k\
[03:49] <ahmeni> do a ps aux if you think something is wrong
[03:49] <wasp_ems> what is that?
[03:49] <bimberi> wasp_ems: yep, i have 91 running (ps ax | wc)
[03:50] <wasp_ems> i was just wondering if they are all needed..under windows i know the less you have the better it is
[03:50] <wasp_ems> anyway i am going to bed..good night
[03:51] <EvilIdler> wasp_ems: If you run ProcessScout or similar in WinXP, you'll see 800+ processes :)
[03:51] <wasp_ems> lol
[03:51] <EvilIdler> ps shows number of processes, and programs can have more than one
[03:51] <wasp_ems> ok
[03:57] <wasp_ems> do u know how i can change the color of my fonts in the konsole?
[03:58] <wasp_ems> i made it transparent but i cannot seem to find how to change their color
[03:59] <EvilIdler> Dunno. I prefer plain, old xterm.
[04:23] <soundmaster80> i cannot install the linux-restricted-modules-386
[04:23] <soundmaster80> any suggestions
[04:23] <soundmaster80> i think it is telling me they are broken
[04:24] <wchogg> Which kernel version is it not installing?
[04:24] <soundmaster80> i don't know
[04:25] <soundmaster80> when i try to update i get "the following packages have been held back" ..-386
[04:25] <wchogg> If you look in adept it should list the packages according to which kernel versions they're for, then you can see which one is marked as "upgradeable".
[04:26] <soundmaster80> lol...well if i had x server i would :)
[04:26] <soundmaster80> i have an old nvidia tnt2 card
[04:26] <soundmaster80> i installed the legacy driver
[04:27] <soundmaster80> last night it all worked fine
[04:27] <wchogg> Well I can say that I found that 2.6.15.21 will install, but more recent ones don't work.  So if you use that kernel version everything should work.
[04:28] <soundmaster80> ah
[04:29] <soundmaster80> how do i show the kernel i'm using?
[04:29] <macd> uname -a
[04:29] <soundmaster80> 2.6.15-23-386
[04:29] <soundmaster80> brb
[04:30] <wchogg> Ah!  That's the one that didn't work for me this morning.
[04:31] <soundmaster80> oh
[04:31] <soundmaster80> so you have tried this as well today?
[04:31] <wchogg> Yup.  I moved from Gentoo to Kubuntu Dapper Flight 7 this morning.
[04:32] <soundmaster80> hmm...it's their problem then i assume?
[04:32] <wchogg> I used kernel version 2.6.15-21 instead and everything is working.
[04:33] <soundmaster80> ok, yeah checking their ubuntu+1 site they show this
[04:33] <soundmaster80> brb again :)
[04:54] <dapper> hellow everyone
[04:54] <segfault> hi
[04:54] <segfault> a question
[04:54] <segfault> how can i remove adeptmanager from the startup ?
[04:54] <segfault> im old-school (apt via konsole)
[04:55] <robotgeek> segfault: you mean the notifier?
[04:55] <segfault> thats :D
[04:55] <segfault> (btw sorry my english)
[04:56] <robotgeek> segfault: right click, and exit it. it should ask you whether you want to reload it on startup
[04:56] <segfault> so easy? XD my fault then
[04:56] <segfault> thanks
[04:56] <dapper> is there a way to change what starts with a new session?
[04:57] <robotgeek> dapper: there is a section on it in the Desktop Guide, Help -> Desktop Guide
[04:57] <jabber522> in the kubuntu desktop guide?
[04:57] <robotgeek> yeah, for dapper
[04:57] <jabber522> sorry i have all the derivatives installed here hehe
[04:57] <jabber522> i'm really loving kubuntu right now, the breezy one was very buggy for me
[05:06] <DaSkreech> can I get some help with Konversation
[05:06] <macd> DaSkreech: ask
[05:07] <DaSkreech> How do I save My password to auth on Freenode?
[05:07] <segfault> in settings
[05:07] <segfault> identities
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Right
[05:07] <segfault> Auto Indentify
[05:07] <segfault> nickserv and your password
[05:08] <DaSkreech> nickserv is service?
[05:08] <segfault> yup
[05:08] <DaSkreech> Great thanks
[05:09] <segfault> y.w
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Now to apt-get dist-upgrade to KDE4 :)
[05:11] <segfault> ah! :s
[05:11] <segfault> you fuc**ing kidding me :S
[05:13] <segfault> how can i use the old kcontrol? instead of system preferences?
[05:14] <tim> I am trying to check my mail with Kontact!
[05:14] <DaSkreech> segfault: System-KControl
[05:14] <segfault> not show
[05:15] <gil> hello?
[05:15] <DaSkreech> segfault: Alt+Space Kcontrol?
[05:15] <macd> segfault: right click, run command --kcontrol
[05:15] <segfault> mm
[05:15] <segfault> another solution S
[05:15] <gil> can someone tell me how to put kubuntu on suspend mode automatically
[05:16] <tim> And it says "Could not connect to host localhost."
[05:41] <ajayc> hi guys
[05:41] <ajayc> which should i download livecd or install cd?
[05:42] <mardi> anyone familiar with installing ati drivers?
[05:42] <robotgeek> ajayc: you can check via the live cd, and install usinf it
[05:42] <robotgeek> !ati
[05:42] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:43] <ajayc> robotgeek: is there the installer by default there in the livecd?
[05:43] <robotgeek> ajayc: yes, if you talking about dapper
[05:44] <ajayc> robotgeek: is that good?
[05:45] <robotgeek> ajayc: not released yet, but works pretty well
[05:46] <ajayc> should i use kubuntu or xubuntu? :P
[05:47] <robotgeek> ajayc: how much cpu/ram
[05:47] <ajayc> 256 DDR2 ram and Pentium M 740
[05:47] <Bilford> 740 ghz?
[05:48] <ajayc> nah
[05:48] <ajayc> 1.7 Ghz
[05:48] <Bilford> oh
[05:48] <robotgeek> ajayc: kubuntu will run very well.
[05:48] <DaSkreech> How much memory?
[05:49] <ajayc> 256 ddr2
[05:49] <segfault> how can i change kmenu icons size?
[05:49] <segfault> the icons in the menu
[05:50] <ajayc> btw why is kubuntu considered better than ubuntu?
[05:50] <DaSkreech> It's Kool?
[05:50] <robotgeek> segfault, use alt + f2, type "kcontrol" in the text box, and hit the <enter> key
[05:51] <DaSkreech> robotgeek: We are still on that?
[05:51] <robotgeek> then go to apperance, and change from there (maybe menu is not possible)
[05:51] <segfault> no, its not possible from there
[05:51] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: too lazy to type systemsettings, i hav kcontrol stuff loaded in my irssi
[05:51] <segfault> thanks vtw
[05:52] <segfault> i like kcontrol instead of systempreferences
[05:52] <DaSkreech> segfault: From the advanced tab?
[05:52] <segfault> yup
[05:53] <ajayc> its kool how?
[05:54] <robotgeek> ajayc: i find that all the apps are better integrated.
[05:57] <Bilford> any file renaming experts here?
[05:57] <Bilford> how do you replace the first instance of a string in a filename using KRenam
[05:57] <Bilford> only the first instance
[05:58] <Bilford> for exmaple   This.is.a.test.file.mp3'
[05:58] <robotgeek> Bilford: example
[05:58] <Bilford> I only want to replace the first .
[05:58] <Bilford> so I get   This is.a.test.file.mp3
[05:59] <robotgeek> Bilford: hmm, not sure
[05:59] <Bilford> ok
[06:03] <Bilford> Windows is giving me 6 days to enter my activation  code on my laptop
[06:03] <Bilford> gee, what should I do
[06:03] <DaSkreech> *kough* Kubuntu *kough koff*
[06:03] <Bilford> lol
[06:04] <DaSkreech> I really should see a doktor for that
[06:04] <EvilIdler> Increase battery life - install Kubuntu :)
[06:04] <Bilford> really?
[06:04] <Bilford> does Kubuntu use less resources than Windows
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[06:04] <Bilford> and run faster?
[06:04] <Bilford> ok
[06:04] <DaSkreech> It kan however use a lot more if you get krazy
[06:04] <DaSkreech> thats oc
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Wait...
[06:05] <EvilIdler> Tests show that Linux gives your CPU a rest like it should. Windows wastes resources.
[06:06] <EvilIdler> Some laptops got twice as much time between recharges :)
[06:06] <Bilford> cool
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Ok what should happen if I install a icon theme and click apply?
[06:07] <EvilIdler> It's not about running faster, but about using those 'rest-instructions' modern processors have
[06:25] <nixternal`v2> ..
[06:26] <_s3B4s_> hello....
[06:26] <nixternal`v2> hehe
[06:26] <nixternal`v2> i thought i went down
[06:27] <_s3B4s_> somebody have already installed the LP on Kubuntu Dapper?
[06:27] <nixternal`v2> what is the LP?
[06:28] <GullyFoyle> nixternal`v2: i still cant get my mic to work
[06:28] <_s3B4s_> the printer sistem
[06:28] <_s3B4s_> system
[06:28] <_s3B4s_> is a system default printer
[06:28] <nixternal`v2> lpd
[06:28] <nixternal`v2> i use cups
[06:29] <_s3B4s_> ahh ok
[06:29] <nixternal`v2> i haven't used lpd since um...1996 i would have to say
[06:29] <_s3B4s_> but, some programs need the commands
[06:29] <_s3B4s_> to prints flies
[06:29] <_s3B4s_> how do you do then?
[06:29] <nixternal`v2> the print daemon is there....
[06:29] <nixternal`v2> i set my printer up this way
[06:30] <nixternal`v2> k menu > system settings > printing
[06:30] <nixternal`v2> in there i added my printers using the CUPS print system
[06:30] <nixternal`v2> HP PSC 1610 Mutli-function
[06:30] <_s3B4s_> yes thats ok
[06:31] <_s3B4s_> but how do you print files from a terminal
[06:31] <_s3B4s_> for exemple
[06:31] <nixternal`v2> oh oh
[06:31] <nixternal`v2> i know where you are going now
[06:31] <nixternal`v2> you are goin' old' schoool...i like your thought
[06:31] <nixternal`v2> i would use lpd
[06:31] <_s3B4s_> ahh
[06:32] <_s3B4s_> ok, i'm having problems to install it
[06:32] <_s3B4s_> with de apt
[06:32] <_s3B4s_> the apt
[06:32] <_s3B4s_> =P
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Is there a GUI way to edit Fstab?
[06:33] <nixternal`v2> my printing was installed from the get go...
[06:34] <_s3B4s_> ahh ok
[06:34] <_s3B4s_> kate /etc/fstab
[06:34] <_s3B4s_> xD
[06:34] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:34] <_s3B4s_> joke
[06:34] <DaSkreech> System settings started complaing about a new line in the Fstab
[06:35] <nixternal`v2> i set my printer up with cups...and when i am in term i can just past print i believe...but i haven't had to do so..so i am not 100% positive
[06:35] <nixternal`v2> that would be sudo kata /etc/fstab ;D
[06:35] <nixternal`v2> kate
[06:35] <nixternal`v2> not kata ;D
[06:35] <_s3B4s_> hehehe
[06:35] <_s3B4s_> xD
[06:35] <nixternal`v2> or gedit
[06:35] <_s3B4s_> xD
[06:35] <nixternal`v2> gah
[06:35] <nixternal`v2> kedit
[06:35] <nixternal`v2> ;D
[06:35] <nixternal`v2> no g...bad g
[06:36] <_s3B4s_> hahaha
[06:36] <mardi> what's everyones fav bit torrent client?
[06:37] <nixternal`v2> i just use ktorrent
[06:37] <nixternal`v2> but truth be told.... utorrent (micro torrent) for windows is the best
[06:37] <nixternal`v2> ktorrent is about as close to utorrent i have seen
[06:38] <mardi> looking now :)
[06:38] <nixternal`v2> sudo apt-get install ktorrent will get it to ya the quickest
[06:39] <_s3B4s_> :P
[06:39] <nixternal`v2> sudo apt-get install a_new_life_please
[06:39] <_s3B4s_> hahahha
[06:39] <_s3B4s_> man life
[06:39] <_s3B4s_> ;)
[06:39] <_s3B4s_> xD
[06:40] <nixternal`v2> hehe
[06:40] <Bilford> you need to uninstall all your old dependencies
[06:41] <ubuntu> hi
[06:41] <Bilford> fresh install is best
[06:41] <nixternal`v2> LOL
[06:41] <dfour> Hi all
[06:41] <ngh55> again,hi lol
[06:41] <nixternal`v2> well hello good sir
[06:42] <ngh55> ok, im going to shoot, how can I tell kubuntu to add more resolutions_ im stuck till 1024*768 in a 19in monitor
[06:43] <dfour> ngh55: have you choosen a 19 monitor in thice neet X-Server config thing? :D
[06:43] <ngh55> im using livecd :P
[06:43] <ngh55> didnt asked
[06:44] <dfour> dapper haven't made it to recognize my ati xt850 -.-
[06:44] <dfour> had to change this in xorg.conf
[06:44] <dfour> so mhhh .. i m new to kubuntu
[06:45] <ngh55> what u changed in xorg?
[06:45] <dfour> the driver line ... in device section
[06:45] <ngh55> oh
[06:45] <dfour> ngh55: but you should try to go to system setting->Display
[06:45] <dfour> and there choose another monitor
[06:45] <ngh55> will that be the place for screen resolutions too?
[06:45] <ngh55> ok, going to
[06:45] <dfour> at hardware
[06:46] <dfour> xorg.conf is the main config file for everything which deals with the X-server
[06:46] <dfour> but its way oldschool to deal with this by hand
[06:46] <_s3B4s_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:46] <ngh55> I see
[06:47] <nixternal`v2> i see the kubuntu forums are hosed
[06:47] <nixternal`v2> i cant' even log in
[06:48] <macd> nixternal`v2: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php
[06:48] <nixternal`v2> hah...that is awesome...i can't log in with ie...but firefox works...kubuntu rox
[06:48] <ngh55> ok, apparently I have to logg off
[06:48] <macd> yeah? I logged in fine.
[06:48] <dfour> ngh55: I m not realy knowing why but when I boot up first time the os with a working driver I had a bad resolution and could change it at all ... after switch driver again everything worked fin
[06:49] <ngh55> I see, thnx, going to log off now, brb
[06:49] <ngh55> what this dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg do?
[06:50] <macd> reconfigures xorg server.
[06:52] <GullyFoyle> how long till i can apt-get dist-upgrade to dapper?
[06:52] <GullyFoyle> coupla weeks?
[06:53] <Bilford> now
[07:01] <Starzend> I need to partition and format a hard drive. what kde tools are available to do so?
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Anyone use qtparted?
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Dang it :)
[07:01] <DaSkreech> qtparted :)
[07:02] <regeya> qtparted, aye.  lovely program.  though the kde partitioning tool requirement leaves me at a loss...heh
[07:04] <DaSkreech> regeya: Hmm?
[07:05] <regeya> well, it would be as if I said, lo, bringeth me a MFC-based disk format utility.
[07:05] <regeya> but whatever :-)
[07:07] <Starzend> thanks for that.
[07:07] <c0llin> does newsmangler work with kubuntu?
[07:07] <dfour> has anyone a idear how to install kubuntu on a laptop without a optical drive?
[07:08] <Starzend> how do I go about installing alsa-driver in kubuntu, as I cant compile whatever it was I downloaded from their web site?
[07:08] <dfour> it was PITA to install gentoo once ... and I m kind of intressted to install kubuntu on it know
[07:08] <ahmeni> dfour: what OS does it currently have?
[07:08] <dfour> ahmeni: gentoo
[07:08] <dfour> ergo linux
[07:09] <frank_> anyone running kubuntu dapper have the sun java plugin working in konqueror?  the plugin works in firefox but not konqueror even after I do a scan for new plugins in konqueror
[07:09] <ahmeni> hrm.. Apparently you can do it with debian-bootstrap, but your mileage may very
[07:09] <DaSkreech> Starzend: Why do you need Alsa?
[07:10] <Starzend> I have no sound, that appears to be one way to get it running.
[07:10] <dfour> ahmeni: isn't there something like a TFTP installer or something?
[07:10] <Starzend> I could be wrong.
[07:10] <ahmeni> dfour: not that I've found.  I'd kill for kubuntu-stage3.tar.bz2
[07:11] <macd> frank_: make sure your plugin directories are correct and coresponf with the actual location of the sun java jre.
[07:12] <c0llin> binary grabber for usenet?
[07:12] <ahmeni> dfour: you could do a test-run with debian bootstrap and a chroot
[07:13] <frank_> macd: I did /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so and konqueror is supposed to look there
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Starzend: try xine
[07:13] <macd> Ive mine installed somewhere else but that should work yes.
[07:14] <Starzend> I have xine installed and functional.
[07:14] <dfour> ahmeni: thx I ll give it a try
[07:14] <Starzend> everything APPEARS to be playing correctly, I just dont hear anything.
[07:14] <DaSkreech> hardware?
[07:14] <Starzend> CD sound, video sound (dvds play nicely, execpt for the fact they are silent)
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Check the cables? :)
[07:15] <Starzend> Intel onboard HD-sound controller.
[07:15] <Starzend> works in windows.
[07:15] <DaSkreech> How do I locate a file?
[07:15] <Starzend> find?
[07:15] <frank_> macd: it points to /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so   what version of java do you have
[07:15] <frank_> DaSkreech: locate filename
[07:15] <ahmeni> DaSkreech: use find -iname 'blah', or locate blah after running updatedb
[07:16] <macd> frank_ : ~home/jre1.5.0_06/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[07:17] <macd> thats b/c I only wish my user to have java
[07:17] <frank_> macd: ok
[07:20] <DaSkreech> frank_ ahmeni: Can I set where locate checks for files?
[07:20] <frank_> DaSkreech: yes. but I forget where.
[07:20] <ahmeni> locate checks almost everywhere by default
[07:20] <ahmeni> check /etc/locatedb.conf to see where it doesn't
[07:21] <frank_> DaSkreech: /etc/updatedb.conf
[07:22] <DaSkreech> Ah Cool
[07:22] <ahmeni> ack, yeah, frank_'s right
[07:22] <Starzend> alsa-base is not the same as alsa-driver, correct?
[07:28] <dFour> when I shutdown or restart my Xserver seams to hangup, I m using fgrlx prop driver, have anyone the same problem?
[07:29] <DaSkreech> frank_: Thanks
[07:30] <thebanana> what is the recommended version of automake for building kde from svn?
[07:30] <thebanana> have there been problems with automake 1.9?
[07:34] <DaSkreech> How do I get K3B to convert a MP3?
[07:35] <DaSkreech> never mind :)
[07:41] <ajayc> guys why cant we play two sounds simulataneously?
[07:41] <ajayc> from two different players
[07:44] <DaSkreech> KDE4 :-)
[07:44] <ajayc> KDE4?
[07:44] <ajayc> whats the relation
[07:45] <dFour> mhhh is the amarok 1.4a broken? ... our its just linked too KDE4?
[07:46] <crimsun> dFour: the what?
[07:47] <ajayc> someone at least tell me why cant we play two damn sounds simulatenouely?
[07:47] <crimsun> ajayc: what sound card do you have?
[07:47] <ajayc> i got intel 915 default snd card
[07:47] <ajayc> ich6 i think
[07:48] <crimsun> that one doesn't perform pcm multiplexing natively
[07:48] <crimsun> you're stuck w/ dmix
[07:48] <ajayc> how to do it?
[07:48] <crimsun> (which should work by default in Breezy and Dapper, btw)
[07:48] <ajayc> i thought it was a pretty good snd card
[07:49] <ajayc> onboard though
[07:49] <crimsun> no, it's craptacular, actually.
[07:49] <ajayc> dunno
[07:49] <ajayc> i got a laptop
[07:49] <crimsun> (no really, it is bad.)
[07:49] <dFour> crimsun: I just updated amarok and know it has a problem with linked libary libkdecore.4
[07:50] <ajayc> so u cant expect sound blasters natively in laptops
[07:50] <crimsun> dFour: are you running breezy?
[07:50] <dFour> crimsun: no dapper flight 7
[07:50] <crimsun> ajayc: no, but that's beside the point. What apps are you using?
[07:50] <crimsun> dFour: you need to be running current Dapper
[07:50] <crimsun> amarok 1.4 from kubuntu.org runs fine here.
[07:51] <ajayc> crimsun: i am using vlc :)
[07:51] <crimsun> ajayc: on breezy or dapper?
[07:51] <Tonio_> hey guys, see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/45526
[07:51] <Tonio_> any opinion on this ?
[07:51] <dFour> crimsun: yeah 1.4 worked but today the updater told me there is  1.4a
[07:51] <ajayc> dapper
[07:52] <crimsun> ajayc: is the alsa output selected in the audio preferences?
[07:52] <crimsun> dFour: eh, I commented out the repo after I installed 1.4, so..
[07:52] <ajayc> yeah
[07:53] <jeff_> hey guys
[07:53] <dFour> crimsum: I m new to kubuntu. is there a way to install older packages?
[07:53] <jeff_> does anybody know how to get flash working in konqueror on flight 7?
[07:53] <DaSkreech> dFour: When is amarok 1.4 hitting the repos?
[07:54] <jeff_> i got it working earlier today, then upgraded the package and now its not working
[07:54] <Tonio_> DaSkreech: uvf exception has to be approved in the first place
[07:55] <Tonio_> DaSkreech: and it'll not be an easy trick since we are in a deep freeze mode  actually ;)
[07:55] <jeff_> it shows in my found plugins but when i try to open a .swf it says that its unable to load the netscape plugin
[07:55] <jeff_> any ideas?
[07:55] <DaSkreech> Tonio_: So ... so .. no Amarok 1.4 for dapper? :-(
[07:55] <jeff_> DaSkreech: yeah, ive got amarok 1.4 for dapper
[07:56] <jeff_> DaSkreech: you have to add the repo for it though
[07:56] <Tonio_> DaSkreech: I didn't say this, but I need to ask Riddell about this
[07:56] <dFour> DaSkreech: I too .. I got it the early morning .. now the 1.4a isnt working anymore :(
[07:56] <Tonio_> jeff_: sure, but I think DaSkreech was talking about integration in main
[07:56] <jeff_> Tonio_: hmm?
[07:56] <jeff_> Tonio_: integration in main?
[07:57] <Tonio_> jeff_: yes
[07:57] <jeff_> Tonio_: whats that
[07:57] <Tonio_> jeff_: there is a repo for the latest amarok, but the package shiped with the distro is in the main section
[07:57] <jeff_> Tonio_: ok
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Wait
[07:58] <Tonio_> DaSkreech: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[07:58] <DaSkreech> That means no Kopete either ?
[07:58] <DaSkreech> I know I read it
[07:58] <Tonio_> you can use this repo to install it
[07:58] <DaSkreech>  I was there when he put it up :)
[07:58] <DaSkreech> I just thought I'd not be needy this time and wait till it hit the main repos
[07:58] <jeff_> so i guess nobody else has flash working in konqueror?
[08:00] <frank_> jeff_: I have it working but it doesn't work well.   do a scan for new plugins in the plugins part of konqueror setings
[08:00] <Tonio_> jeff_: flash works here
[08:00] <frank_> Tonio_: can you see google videos with konqueror?
[08:01] <Tonio_> frank_: test url plz ?
[08:01] <jeff_> frank_: i did. the plugin shows up under the netscape plugins fine
[08:01] <frank_> Tonio_: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3224253477372538278
[08:01] <jeff_> Tonio_: did you do anything other than install the package and scan for the plugin to make it work?
[08:02] <Tonio_> jeff_: nope ;)
[08:02] <frank_> Tonio_: does the video work?
[08:02] <Tonio_> frank_: yes
[08:02] <riri> hi nixternal
[08:02] <frank_> Tonio_: hmmm.. I get only sound, no video
[08:03] <Tonio_> frank_: jeff_: I configured kubuntu-default-settings to auto scan for mozilla plugins during kde session load, so I assume if you didn't touch the settings that should work...
[08:03] <DaSkreech> Tonio_: So no kopete either?
[08:03] <Tonio_> frank_: ah yes, but that's not a flash issue
[08:03] <Tonio_> frank_: It is using flash 8 I think
[08:03] <frank_> Tonio_: but the same plugin works fine in firefox
[08:03] <Tonio_> frank_: that's the reason it doesn't work, but technically, flash 7 animations are correctly displayed here
[08:03] <Tonio_> frank_: tricky then.....
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Since it's supposed to come out this month
[08:04] <Tonio_> frank_: javascript issue or something then ? I am testing others websites and flash works on them....
[08:04] <noiesmo> anyone here got a linux box running on DAC960 raid controlle
[08:04] <jeff_> Tonio_: im gonna set it to scan on kde load too and see if its working when i reload
[08:05] <Tonio_> jeff_: in any case the plugin is loaded and launches.... but yes, I don't see the video on google....
[08:05] <Tonio_> but it works on other websites....
[08:05] <jeff_> DaSkreech: you can get the newest kopete packages for breezy on their site, and the second newest (still newer than the packs on the ropo) one for dapper
[08:05] <frank_> Tonio_: ok so you get the same problem as me on google
[08:06] <Tonio_> frank_: yup
[08:06] <DaSkreech> jeff_: Yeah but still no 0.12 love for dapperites?
[08:06] <jeff_> Tonio_: if there is flash embedded on a page, it just doesnt show
[08:06] <jeff_> DaSkreech: lol yeah i know
[08:06] <Tonio_> jeff, let me show you another example
[08:06] <jeff_> DaSkreech: we're stuck with beta 1
[08:06] <chavo> in firefox the video plays but no sound :(
[08:07] <DaSkreech> beta1 is in repos?
[08:07] <chavo> just play them both together
[08:07] <jeff_> DaSkreech: while all the other kids are playing with 0.12 beta 2
[08:07] <jeff_> DaSkreech: no, its on the site
[08:07] <DaSkreech> ah ok
[08:07] <Tonio_> frank_: http://2advanced.com/flashindex.htm
[08:07] <Tonio_> works
[08:07] <Tonio_> and this is an embedded flash animation
[08:07] <nolte> noiesmo: DAC960 sounds familiar to me, will check my servers
[08:07] <DaSkreech> so guess I should just suck it up and install everything the renegade way :-)
[08:08] <chavo> the flash videos on youtube.com work
[08:09] <noiesmo> nolte, cheers old mylax raid controller getting errors when modprobe tries to load module
[08:10] <nolte> noiesmo: got this one RAID bus controller: Mylex Corporation eXtremeRAID 2000/3000 support Device
[08:11] <nolte> noiesmo: runs on SLES9
[08:11] <DaSkreech> can you add a pakage on the end of a list while the current list is downloading?
[08:11] <noiesmo> nolte, ok just found an old fedora core k12 disk and it seems to recognize the card but then freezes am trying text mode install
[08:13] <noiesmo> nolte, now it says parport0: blah blah then nothing happens but it did see the raid array i created with the mylax app dam it windows xp installed without any issues but i dont want windows I just put windows on to test raid
[08:16] <jtmoney> i just reinstalled flight 7 and it's giving me an error when i try to install linux-686... anyone know why? or should i just stick w/ 5.10?
[08:18] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:22] <jtmoney> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:22] <jtmoney>   linux-686: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-686 but it is not going to be installed
[08:22] <jtmoney> E: Broken packages
[08:22] <jtmoney> anyone know why i get that error when i try to install linux-686?
[08:22] <jtmoney> also, what is LTS?
[08:25] <ajayc> LTS-linux that sucks (kidding)
[08:26] <jtmoney> hah
[08:29] <jtmoney> okay, so it's "long term support" ... does that mean it's the final version?
[08:33] <scheuri> hi all
[08:36] <DaSkreech> jtmoney: Hmm Good point
[08:38] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee:  Hobbsee!!! :)
[08:38] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech
[08:38] <DaSkreech> Hmm :-(
[08:38] <DaSkreech> Wish I could get konversation to flash :-(
[08:40] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: why cant you?
[08:40] <ahmeni> it's not drunk enough
[08:40] <DaSkreech> Where would I set that?
[08:40] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: settings, notifications
[08:41] <DaSkreech>  I can get it to beep me but not to ask for attention
[08:41] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: pretty much any kde app can be set in knotify - so you can go into system settings, sound and multimedia, the second option - and change it for any program
[08:41] <Hobbsee> the flash the taskbar option?
[08:41] <DaSkreech> Yes
[08:41] <Hobbsee> that's the last little box
[08:41] <DaSkreech> It doesn't
[08:41] <Hobbsee> :(
[08:42] <DaSkreech> It flashes the system tray thingy
[08:42] <Hobbsee> yes, isnt that the diea?
[08:43] <DaSkreech> No :-(
[08:43] <DaSkreech> I want to Alt+Ctrl+A and pop it up
[08:43] <jtmoney> here's some food for thought... i'm running xp pro and kubuntu on this lappy... there is a driver from toshiba for the video card for xp, and it appears that xorg is using a generic one... however, kubuntu displays much faster than xp does
[08:44] <DaSkreech> Open source + 1
[08:45] <DaSkreech> Right now I have it so that if someone says me name it plays some annoying sound
[08:45] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: ah yes.  you can change the sounds too :P
[08:45] <scheuri> DaSkreech: ;)
[08:46] <Hobbsee> there's probably some way to make it steal focus...
[08:46] <Hobbsee> in the special app settings...
[08:46] <DaSkreech> Wouldn't mind if that also triggerd the acronjob in my head to hit some key to pop up the window so I can respond
[08:46] <Hobbsee> jtmoney: that's an interesting thought...what model laptop?
[08:46] <jtmoney> toshiba satellite 2405-s201
[08:47] <jtmoney> from what i understand, you have to use summit lx to get "accelerated 3d" capabilities under x
[08:47] <jtmoney> but this is far faster than xp... just blows the mind
[08:47] <jtmoney> maybe it's just because i only really use firefox and it's faster under linux?
[08:50] <dFour> have anyone a idear why amarok 1.4a is linked agains libkdecore.4 and not libkdecore.so.4 ... ?
[08:52] <DaSkreech> Does sabdfl ever hang here?
[08:53] <DaSkreech> Bilford_: Hi
[08:56] <Bilford_> hello
[08:57] <Bilford_> Kubuntu runs great on this laptop
[08:57] <Bilford_> 767 ghz
[08:57] <Bilford_> it had Windows on it before
[08:57] <cfraz89> thast insanely fast lol
[08:57] <Bilford_> no, thats the chip
[08:57] <Starzend> It is. Where did you get that laptop?
[08:58] <Bilford_> haha
[08:58] <Starzend> and you sold whos soul for this?
[08:58] <Bilford_> what
[08:58] <Starzend> dw
[08:58] <Bilford_> oh lol
[08:58] <Bilford_> 767 mhz
[08:58] <Bilford_> it runs like 767 ghz with Kubuntu
[08:58] <cfraz89> i think itd run great on my laptop too if it was that speed
[08:58] <Bilford_> its like a new laptop
[08:59] <Bilford_> Windows ran slow and the display looked all weird
[08:59] <Bilford_> now everything is crisp, clear, and fast
[08:59] <Bilford_> dumbwit?
[09:00] <metaldave> ho un problema posso chiedere?
[09:01] <Bilford_> companies throw out laptops that are under 1 ghz
[09:01] <Bilford_> they have to keep up to run Windows and new Windows apps
[09:01] <Bilford_> they wouldnt have to throw them out if they used Kubuntu
[09:06] <DaSkreech> metaldave: #kubuntu-es
[09:16] <DaSkreech> Someone send me to bed!!
[09:17] <ahmeni> killall -SLEEP DaSkreech
[09:28] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Night
[09:28] <Hobbsee> night DaSkreech
[09:28] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Your tldp URL works?
[09:29] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: my which?
[09:29] <DaSkreech> Your part message URL?
[09:29] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: it should do, someone commented on it earlier...
[09:31] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: i can connect to it...
[09:31] <DaSkreech> I can't
[09:31] <DaSkreech>  ah well I'll try tomorrow
[09:31] <Hobbsee> odd
[09:32] <DaSkreech> Night all
[09:32] <DaSkreech> Not from my network :-)
[09:34] <Hobbsee> it's a good read, though :)
[09:40] <Bilford> new kernel
[09:40] <Bilford> 2.6.15
[09:41] <Bilford> restart KDE
[09:51] <jtmoney> i'm reading ubuntuguide.org and i'm thinking that "sudo mount //192.168.0.1/linux /media/sharename/ -o username=myusername,password=mypassword" definitely is not the right command for mounting a network share
[09:51] <jtmoney> shouldn't it be smbclient or something other than mount? it gives me an error when i try that (filling in the appropriate variables, of course)
[09:52] <jtmoney> the network connection is fine too... smb://server/c$ works
[09:52] <jtmoney> ohh, wiki has a great page on it
[09:52] <jtmoney> let me try that first ;)
[09:53] <Bilford> you really dont need to do anything
[09:54] <Bilford> are you there
[09:54] <Bilford> Go to Network Places, and Samba
[09:54] <jtmoney> worked like a charm
[09:54] <Bilford> its most likely already set up
[09:54] <Bilford> ok
[09:54] <jtmoney> had to add smbfs
[09:56] <fatejudger> is there a way to tell Konqueror to always play Flash sound through "aoss"?
[10:10] <rohan> hmm.. is it possible to change the kubuntu wallpaper now ? its too ugly, and has no identity..
[10:17] <cfraz89> drag the picture onto  your desktop
[10:18] <cfraz89> then click set as wallpaper
[10:19] <rohan> why does kubuntu remove kedit and kwrite ?
[10:20] <ajayc> rohan edubuntu also has shipit
[10:20] <rohan> ajayc: this is not a channel for our personal chat
[10:21] <ajayc> i mean people edubuntu also has shipit
[10:21] <Hobbsee> ajayc: oh good, so they did get it as well...
[10:22] <Hobbsee> rohan: kwrite's there, it's not on the menus.  they thought that 3 GUI text editors installed by default was a bit excessive
[10:22] <rohan> Hobbsee: yes, but like, for editing simple text files, imo, kedit would be overkill
[10:22] <Hobbsee> rohan: kate's there
[10:23] <rohan> Hobbsee: err.. yeah, kate's overkill
[10:23] <rohan> seeing that it has those programming tabs and all
[10:24] <Hobbsee> true...
[10:24] <Hobbsee> kwrite's not bad for really simple stuff
[10:24] <rohan> hmm.. so kwrite is great for simple editing.. kate's overkill
[10:24] <rohan> and kate is good for .c and .cpp and such
[10:25] <rohan> can it be changed, now ?
[10:25] <jk-> hi all.
[10:25] <jk-> anyone running amarok-1.4 ?
[10:25] <Hobbsee> jk-: yes
[10:25] <Hobbsee> changed to be what?
[10:25] <rohan> i'd really like too see the the text editor and wallpaper changed :(
[10:26] <Hobbsee> what are you suggesting?  text editor changed to kwrite only?
[10:26] <rohan> no
[10:26] <rohan> to kwrite for simple files
[10:26] <rohan> and to kate for .c and .h and such programming files
[10:27] <Hobbsee> that just gets more and more confusing - better just to stick with the one text editor
[10:27] <rohan> kate would be 'initimidating' if someone wanted to edit ~/projects/a_quick_text_file
[10:28] <Hobbsee> and the inverse is also true
[10:29] <Hobbsee> but kate's mostly understandable...
[10:29] <rohan> oh, ok
[10:29] <Hobbsee> like gedit - who uses all those commands anyway?
[10:29] <jk-> Hobbsee: are you using the xine arts output ?
[10:29] <Hobbsee> jk-: i think so, yes
[10:29] <rohan> and the wallpaper .. it has no identity ! not even a logo ! :(
[10:30] <Hobbsee> yes, i'm not sure why that's the case..that's kwwii's domain
[10:30] <rohan> 14:00 < Hobbsee> yes, i'm not sure why that's the case..that's kwwii's domain ---> the wallpaper ?
[10:30] <Hobbsee> rohan: yes
[10:30] <jk-> Hobbsee: did you need to do do anything tricky to install the arts output ?
[10:31] <Hobbsee> jk-: not that i remember...but i may have...
[10:33] <rohan> also, why no k3b setup menu entry ? k3b is already set up properly ?
[10:33] <Hobbsee> rohan: the wallpaper and all the graphics
[10:33] <rohan> Hobbsee: ok.
[10:34] <Hobbsee> *growls at pbuilder*
[10:44] <rohan> http://edubuntu.com/ --> hadnt they kept a bounty removed "Human beings" ?
[10:45] <rohan> even http://www.ubuntu.com/
[10:47] <dbglt> hi there. I'm just wondering... on updating kde I can't seem to get a desktop-list when I try "Walk through desktop" shortcut... but it instead just switches automatically to the next desktop... would there be any logical explanation for this?
[10:52] <_diop> my laptop detects my cell phone but impossible to share files with it via bluetooth, any idea
[11:06] <jk-> Hobbsee: could i get you to check if you are using amarok+xine+arts? i can't find any way to enable arts output :(
[11:07] <Hobbsee> jk-: ah, amarok xine and alsa
[11:07] <jk-> ah, right :)
[11:08] <XVampireX> Hi... maybe it is just slightly relevant... but is there any way to get a linux (ubuntu/kubuntu?) version of ironpython?
[11:10] <Vampis> morning ppl
[11:10] <Vampis> kkathman: =)
[12:56] <thundershirt> howdy guys?
[12:56] <rob> man the ati drivers are giving me the hebegebies
[12:57] <thundershirt> lol why?
[12:57] <rob> it should work, but on dapper it wont (even getting the drivers from the ati web site doesn't work)
[12:58] <thundershirt> cant say anything i go intel
[12:58] <rob> it just locks up, dam laptop
[12:58] <thundershirt> use something else then
[12:59] <rob> what? I've tried both methods
[12:59] <thundershirt> i mean use some other distro
[01:00] <rob> hehe
[01:00] <rob> for me that would be blasphemy
[01:00] <thundershirt> lol
[01:01] <thundershirt> i got probs too
[01:01] <thundershirt> cant play two songs simulataneulsy
[01:01] <rob> actually I have been kind of unimpressed with kubuntu dapper so far..
[01:01] <XVampireX> thundershirt: It's obvious
[01:02] <XVampireX> That's a problem with the sound drivers
[01:03] <rob> hmm fglrx loads cleanly into the kernel at least
[01:05] <rob> chipset is supported..
[01:13] <drgonzo> hello all
[01:14] <drgonzo> I'm just switched from gentoo to ubuntu, and I'm about to install kbuntu-desktop, I'm wondering it tells me it's breezy0.55 but what version of kde is it?
[01:15] <Hobbsee> 3.4.3 probably
[01:15] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.2
[01:15] <ubotu> it has been said that kde3.5.2 is to upgrade to KDE3.5.2, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[01:15] <drgonzo> cheers
[01:15] <vanja> Hi,anyone that can help me with a small problem? I'm all new to this kubuntu and linux thing, and I'm trying to find out how to transfer picutres from my digitalcamera to my computer
[01:15] <quique> vanja: install digikam
[01:16] <vanja> where do I find that?
[01:16] <Vampis> sudo apt-get install digikam
[01:17] <vanja> found it, thanks!
[01:22] <drgonzo> ok i've done that, is it the same package kubuntu-desktop?
[01:23] <drgonzo> because I havn't installed it yet
[01:24] <Hobbsee> yes, just add the extra repo
[01:24] <drgonzo> I've added it
[01:25] <drgonzo> and done apt-get update etc etc
[01:25] <Hobbsee> yep
[01:25] <drgonzo> but it's still showing up as same version 0.55
[01:25] <Hobbsee> so when you install kubuntu-desktop, you should get kde 3.5
[01:25] <Hobbsee> drgonzo: apt-cache show kdelibs
[01:25] <Hobbsee> what version does that show?
[01:25] <Vampis> Hobbsee: depends on wich repositories he has
[01:26] <Hobbsee> Vampis: already told him about the kde 3.5.2 repo :)
[01:26] <Vampis> ah, sorry, I missed that
[01:26] <Vampis> My bad =)
[01:26] <Hobbsee> hehe it's okay
[01:26] <drgonzo> ok its showing right version
[01:26] <Hobbsee> good :)
[01:26] <drgonzo> Im about to do the update but im getting this error
[01:27] <drgonzo> kubuntu-desktop:
[01:27] <drgonzo>  Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[01:27] <HymnToLife> do you have the correct repos ?
[01:27] <Hobbsee> try sudo apt-get install kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kubuntu-desktop
[01:28] <Hobbsee> HymnToLife: should do
[01:28] <drgonzo> i just put in the first repo
[01:28] <drgonzo>  kdegraphics-kfile-plugins: Depends: libpoppler0c2-qt (>= 0.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[01:28] <HymnToLife> drgonzo> KDE 3.5.2 on Breezy ?
[01:29] <drgonzo> yeah i just grabbed breezy but ubuntu not kubuntu
[01:29] <drgonzo> now i would like to install kde 3.5.2
[01:29] <drgonzo> So i stuck the first repo on that page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php and added the key etc
[01:29] <drgonzo> did the update and now im getting that error
[01:29] <HymnToLife> and what comand are you running ?
[01:30] <drgonzo> apt-get install kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kubuntu-desktop
[01:30] <HymnToLife> hmm, definitely worked here
[01:30] <HymnToLife> try another repo
[01:30] <drgonzo> remove the old  and add another or just add it?
[01:31] <HymnToLife> remove the old one
[01:31] <drgonzo> ok
[01:31] <drgonzo> maybe i've got old qt ?
[01:31] <drgonzo> it's whinging about  libpoppler0c2-qt
[01:31] <HymnToLife> even if you did, it would update it
[01:32] <HymnToLife> yeah, maybe the package is missing on the repo
[01:32] <drgonzo> ok ill try
[01:32] <drgonzo> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352 breezy main isnt that the main one?
[01:32] <drgonzo> because thats what I added
[01:33] <Vampis> drgonzo: Thats the one I used when I used breezy
[01:34] <Vampis> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[01:34] <Vampis> check that one
[01:34] <drgonzo> ok same problem
[01:34] <drgonzo> with second repo
[01:34] <drgonzo>  kdegraphics-kfile-plugins: Depends: libpoppler0c2-qt (>= 0.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[01:34] <drgonzo> E: Broken packages
[01:34] <Vampis> did u add the keys ?
[01:34] <drgonzo> i added the one key
[01:34] <Vampis> ok
[01:35] <HymnToLife> !info libpoppler0c2-qt
[01:35] <ubotu> libpoppler0c2-qt: (PDF rendering library (Qt-based shared library)), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-0ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[01:35] <HymnToLife> this one seems to be on the main ubuntu repo
[01:35] <drgonzo> whats the name of the package?
[01:36] <HymnToLife> hmm atually it's in universe
[01:36] <HymnToLife> did you enable it ?
[01:36] <drgonzo> i dunno
[01:36] <drgonzo> don't think so
[01:36] <drgonzo> i just installed this distro like 30 mins agoo
[01:36] <HymnToLife> then go to your sources.list
[01:36] <drgonzo> ago*
[01:36] <HymnToLife> and uncomment the lines mentioning "universe"
[01:36] <drgonzo> ok
[01:37] <drgonzo> done
[01:37] <HymnToLife> then update
[01:37] <Vampis> sudo apt-get update again then
[01:37] <rob> is it ok to install gstreamer etc on kubuntu, or is there a better method for kubuntu
[01:37] <HymnToLife> and install kubuntu-desktop
[01:39] <drgonzo> brilliant thanks
[01:39] <drgonzo> :)
[01:39] <drgonzo> I thought it was just a foobar of a dept issue in package( im comming from gentoo)
[01:40] <drgonzo> maybe some package that looped or something...
[01:41] <HymnToLife> there was just a packge needed for the install that was not available in your repos
[01:41] <drgonzo> yeah, thanks again
[01:52] <isa> hi. i just installed 4GB Ram (i had 1 gb) and now i always get a kernel panic on boot (i use breezy) with kernel-2.6.12-10 and smp. i tried to boot with knoppix and get the same error. <0> kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt
[01:53] <isa> i have no clue, what i could do ...
[01:53] <Vampis> something wrong with the new memories? run a memtest
[01:53] <isa> memtest didn find anything so far
[01:53] <isa> there are 4 new 1gb - chips
[01:54] <isa> if i install 2 of them, kubuntu works. if i install 3 or 4, the kernel gets paniced :)
[01:54] <Vampis> hms
[01:55] <isa> as this happens in knoppix too, i fear that there may be a problem with the 2.6-kernel. what do you think?
[01:56] <HymnToLife> try with a 2.4 :p
[01:57] <isa> HymnToLife: thats, what i am doing right now, but i would like to get some further ideas, if that doesnt work :)
[01:57] <HymnToLife> that's far beyond my knowledge lol
[01:57] <isa> i hate kernel panic :)
[01:57] <isa> that always sounds so dramatically :)
[01:58] <HymnToLife> never got any
[01:58] <HymnToLife> I guess I'm not tinkering with it enough yet
[02:00] <isa> does anyone know, if the kubuntu 2.4-kernel-image-smp supports 4gb ram?
[02:01] <isa> i need smp and 4gb ...
[02:03] <isa> oh. there is no kubuntu 2.4 - image? :)
[02:04] <lackdiant> hi, I have a problem with flash plugin
[02:04] <lackdiant> I upgraded it from aptitude
[02:05] <lackdiant> and firefox closes since thn
[02:05] <lackdiant> then
[02:05] <lackdiant> before that, in aptitude appeared a question that said if I want to downloaded from internet
[02:05] <lackdiant> and I don't remember what I answered but I think I said no
[02:06] <botbotdizip> hi all, anyone here have any ideas why a dvd/cd combo won't read cdr's in kubuntu?
[02:06] <lackdiant> how can I reconfigure flash?
[02:06] <botbotdizip> reads dvd's just fine, but not cdr's
[02:07] <HymnToLife> botbotdizip> can it read them a all, I mean in Windows ?
[02:07] <botbotdizip> yeah worked ok with xp on the system
[02:07] <botbotdizip> i enabled dma and all that
[02:08] <botbotdizip> just reads dvd's for now, I'm a bit stumped as to why
[02:10] <botbotdizip> it read ok in small small linux too so I'm thinking its just a breezy distro thing
[02:10] <botbotdizip> damn small linux, typo
[02:11] <isa> is there no kernel image for 2.4 in breezy?
[02:11] <HymnToLife> nope, I don't think there is
[02:12] <isa> arks
[02:12] <botbotdizip> just 2.6 i think. damn small linux has reverted to 2.4 for the sake of older hardware
[02:12] <HymnToLife> you'll hve to go back to Debian :D
[02:12] <isa> *G*
[02:12] <HymnToLife> or compile it jourself
[02:13] <botbotdizip> anyone else had dvd combo probs?
[02:13] <HymnToLife> mine works pretty well
[02:14] <HymnToLife> does yours read CD-Rs fine on Windows ?
[02:14] <botbotdizip> reading cdr's? I got a liteon
[02:14] <botbotdizip> yeah it reads fine in winblowz
[02:14] <HymnToLife> that's really strange
[02:15] <botbotdizip> the only thing i did was hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[02:15] <botbotdizip> yeah i know
[02:16] <botbotdizip> I'm willing to give anything a try, how do i slow the read speed from console
[02:17] <botbotdizip> i was just reading that dvd/cd readers are optimized for reading and need to be slowed down for cdrs
[02:18] <botbotdizip> woops optimised for reading dvds
[02:19] <botbotdizip> anyway I'll keep tinkering, I'll let you know if I can find a workaround
[02:30] <zambba> How can I prevent using the Trash with removable media?
[02:30] <zambba> I can't delete files from usb memory using Konqueror. Konqueror just moves them to hidden /media/kingston/.Trash-nnnnnn folder
[02:31] <Dasnipa`> use console to delete them?
[02:37] <djk_> where do you put a *.bin and a *.so to use them?
[02:39] <kettenschutz> could someone help ?!
[02:39] <_per_> does anyone know how to stop the korganizer reminder daemon at login? (i made kmail start at login, but i can't turn the reminder daemon off)
[02:39] <djk_> kettenschutz: download unace from the winace site. the unace in the repos is a waste of code..
[02:40] <kettenschutz> ah ok thx @ djk
[02:41] <kettenschutz> ehm, i have to replace the new unace with the old unace !?
[02:41] <kettenschutz> where is the old unace stored?
[02:43] <djk_> kettenschutz: /usr/bin/
[02:44] <_per_> nobody knows how to stop the korganizer reminder at login? (i HAVE tried to choose "Do not start" in the right-click menu of the system tray icon, but that doesn't work)
[02:44] <kettenschutz> ok thx :)
[02:46] <kettenschutz> yay works thanx :D
[02:47] <djk_> you're welcome
[02:47] <kettenschutz> = )
[02:47] <kettenschutz> ehm, what was the sign to directly give the root folder in the terminal
[02:47] <kettenschutz> f.e. im @ my downloads folder but i want to use a command from the multimedia folder
[02:48] <kettenschutz> there was a sign or something to directly start from home
[02:48] <_per_> kettenschutz: ~
[02:48] <djk_> ~ ?
[02:48] <kettenschutz> sh $:multimedia/start.sh
[02:48] <kettenschutz> the tilde ?!
[02:48] <kettenschutz> sh ~:multimedia/start.sh
[02:48] <kettenschutz> this would work?
[02:50] <kettenschutz> aaah thanx
[02:54] <mhterres> morning
[02:57] <mhterres> hi guys
[02:58] <mhterres> since I updated my Ubuntu do Dapper I can see the color sintax in vim
[02:58] <mhterres> anybody knows what is wrong ?
[03:00] <mhterres> hmmm, anybody knows why the vim-common package is wrong ???
[03:01] <mhterres> It doesn't have the complete vim files
[03:01] <mhterres> :-(
[03:02] <mhterres> problem solved :-)
[03:02] <visik7> is vim7 in dapperdrake ?
[03:03] <jeroenvrp> I have a question for you all
[03:04] <Vampis> shoot
[03:04] <jeroenvrp> I'm using firestarter (gnome app) as my firewall with succes, I like the app, but I want to have a KDE application for this - what is the best KDE substitution for Firestarter??
[03:04] <mhterres> no
[03:04] <mhterres> vim 6.4
[03:05] <mhterres> jeroenvrp: the answer no was to visik7, not for you :-)
[03:05] <jeroenvrp> mhterres: I understand :-), cause I've never heard off an app called "no"
[03:05] <visik7> ok I'm stuck with my packages for breezy
[03:06] <mhterres> hehehehehhe
[03:06] <mhterres> jeroenvrp: I don't read your question, before I send you the msg :-)
[03:21] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: Does firestarter allow you to setup quality of service (QOS) ?
[03:22] <jeroenvrp> you mean to limit bandwidth and such
[03:25] <jeroenvrp> h3sp4wn: no
[03:27] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: Its useful for things like making sure your net connection is still usable under high load - (for example any ssh packets get the highest priority) - You can still browse quickly when downloading a torrent stuff like that - you need to use tc and l7-filter
[03:28] <jeroenvrp> h3sp4wn: yes that is what I meant
[03:28] <jeroenvrp> no, its a firewall
[03:30] <h3sp4wn> The modules ipt_layer7 ipt_CONNMARK etc are part of iptables (the linux firewall) so I just thought it may setup stuff like that
[03:31] <_bon> this is problly a really eay probem to fix - every time i click a link in konqueror it open an open diolgo box with options for save as - open with firefox and cancle
[03:33] <jeroenvrp> h3sp4wn: oh I didnt know that
[03:34] <jeroenvrp> I can remember it was different module, but it was a long time ago I uses it
[03:38] <Paradosso> hi everybody
[03:38] <Paradosso> anybody had any luck installing artwiz fonts in kubuntu?
[04:04] <sudomaster> am i on # kubuntu?
[04:05] <sudomaster> hello...
[04:05] <sudomaster> **need adept help**
[04:17] <cyberboy> is amarok 1.4 a lot betterR?
[04:17] <tuxcicles> how would one get amarok 1.4, drake?
[04:19] <tuxcicles> anyone know if i were to install kde components, would it break kubuntu?
[04:20] <cyberboy> which kde components?
[04:20] <tuxcicles> kde-multimedia, art...
[04:21] <ccc_> cyberboy: a lot better than 1.3.x yes
[04:22] <ccc_> tuxcicles: here's how: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[04:23] <sPiderman> where can i download wine?
[04:24] <ccc_> www.winehq.org
[04:24] <sPiderman> txs
[04:24] <ccc_> they have a repository for ubuntu
[04:24] <sPiderman> ok
[04:25] <tuxcicles> ccc_: looks like it's in dapper, darn - anyone know if there is  a way to update without reinstalling to get up to dapper?
[04:25] <cyberboy> when you install kde-components... kde installs it and recompile... don't abort that process
[04:25] <cyberboy> i did en i f*cked up kde
[04:25] <sPiderman> i dont see any lniks to download wine
[04:26] <cyberboy> but i think you can do is savely
[04:28] <ccc_> tuxcicles: sure, if you mean upgrade from breezy?
[04:30] <ccc_> tuxcicles: or you mean upgrading amarok to 1.4 in breezy?
[04:32] <visik7> ccc_: czessi repo
[04:33] <pfabregat> heya
[04:34] <pfabregat> have any got xgl/compiz working on (k)ubuntu64 ? , i'm really lost in the forums and i cannot find anything usefull... i keep getting this "compiz.real: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing"
[04:34] <ccc_> visik7: exactly :)
[04:48] <ingo``> hello
[04:48] <ingo``> someone here
[04:48] <ingo``> ?????
[04:49] <jjesse> sometimes :)
[04:52] <ingo``> i have kubuntu cd -and i want to install it so i just want to know if the kubuntu burned cd has a duel booting stuff cuzz i want to have the windows 2
[04:52] <_rince_> it detects and enables other operating-systems
[04:53] <_rince_> it is still accessible via grub
[04:53] <_rince_> besides, it asks bevor rewriting your mbr
[04:53] <mindspin> high noon duel booting.... it should work fine, which cd do you have (breezy??)
[04:53] <ingo``> so i can just put the kubuntu cd and it will auto boot
[04:53] <ingo``> i mean duel boot
[04:54] <mindspin> is it breezy or dapper ?
[04:54] <_rince_> the cd will boot if you have enabled booting from cd in your bios
[04:55] <ingo``> i have this
[04:55] <ingo``> http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/5.10/kubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso
[04:55] <mindspin> I would be careful if its dapper, dapper live beta 2 ruined a xp installation on one of my machines
[04:55] <ingo``> i dont want dapper
[04:55] <mindspin> ok should work
[04:56] <ingo``> so it will duel boot aUTO?
[04:56] <_rince_> aw right, there was this bug with dapper but it has been fixed a while ago
[04:56] <ingo``> RIGHT? if i put the kubuntu cd inn
[04:56] <mindspin> _rince_: I thought it was fixed on live beta 2 but either I'm stupid or the bug existed on my cd....
[04:57] <_rince_> ingo: you need free space on your hd, then after installing the kubuntu files it asks where and how to install the boot-loader
[04:57] <_rince_> mindspin: worked like a charme here, about 3 weeks ago
[04:57] <ingo``> ok
[04:58] <ingo``> but hey i burned the cd for 1 year ago
[04:58] <mindspin> i did an install for linuxtag and it failed... (it was the live installer)
[04:58] <ingo``> so the cd is fixed ?
[04:58] <_rince_> ingo: with breezy, there never was a problem
[04:58] <ingo``> but hey i burned the cd for 1 year ago? -i mean does the cd has a dapper pug stuff?
[04:59] <_rince_> def. not, but think about getting a current breezy cd :)
[04:59] <mindspin> ingo``: we are talking about dapper live beta , not about breezy
[04:59] <uwo> hi all - having problems with mozplugger and konqueror - konqueror won't embed realplayer. An about:plugins in konq shows that mozplugger doesn't find the conf file and binaries (the about:plugins print is here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=165900&highlight=konqueror+realplayer), in firefox all works and mozplugger reports finding both (about:plugins at same link)
[04:59] <_rince_> mindspin: _we_ are talking about dapper, ingo is talking about breezy or something even older
[04:59] <mindspin> yup
[05:03] <slow-motion> re
[05:22] <gaby> hy all
[05:22] <gaby> some one from romania?
[05:23] <gaby> e cineva pe aici din romania?
[05:23] <gaby> :)
[05:24] <gaby> fuck you man
[05:33] <mal_> I'm getting errors in a configure script, and I think the problem is because I have a newer v of Bash. Any easy way around this?
[05:36] <admrl> im trying to get a aol dialer made by linspire to run and its giving me an error
[05:36] <admrl> ./losaol: line 2: cd: /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/los-aol: No such file or directory
[05:36] <admrl> ./losaol: line 2: python2.3: command not found
[05:36] <admrl> ./losaol: line 3: cd: OLDPWD not set
[05:48] <jeroenvrp> tried guarddog and kmyfirewall and they both have issues
[05:48] <jeroenvrp> 1. guarddog: denies all connections to the internet, even dns
[05:49] <jeroenvrp> 2. kmyfirewall: no option to make your own rules and protocoles inside the gui
[05:49] <jeroenvrp> please use firestarter, no. 1
[05:50] <kronoz> a firewall module in kcontrol/systemsettings would be useful I think
[05:51] <kronoz> a have problem with kcontrol, sometimes when i need to use administrator/root mode i click the administrator button but it doesn't do kdesu and becomes unclickable
[05:52] <kronoz> i had this problem a fews months ago on another kubuntu install so i'm thinking its a bug
[05:52] <jeroenvrp> known bug in breezy
[05:52] <jeroenvrp> allthough should be fixed
[05:53] <kronoz> i'm using dapper
[05:53] <kronoz> beta2
[05:53] <jeroenvrp> beta2!!
[05:53] <jeroenvrp> without updating t
[05:53] <jeroenvrp> ?
[05:53] <kronoz> doing apt-get upgrade now...
[05:53] <jeroenvrp> and apt-get update first please
[05:54] <kronoz> yeah i know, i used to use debian ;)
[05:54] <nixternal> good mornin' all
[05:54] <jeroenvrp> or use kdesu adept_updater
[05:54] <kronoz> hey nixterminal
[05:54] <jeroenvrp> whatever you wish
[05:55] <Kadran> kronoz: did you liked kubuntu more than debiian?
[05:55] <kronoz> also, why does konqueror use system:/home instead of simply $HOME
[05:55] <nixternal> what is the easiest way to uninstall old kernels, headers, and images with kubuntu?
[05:56] <kronoz> Kadran, I haven't really used Kubuntu much, but I think so, I like the modified KControl
[05:56] <kronoz> nixternal, use apt
[05:56] <nixternal> i kinda figured that...i just wanted to make sure by using it...i wouldn't run into problems
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> nixternal: aptitude search linux-image - aptitude purge linux-image-whatever
[05:57] <nixternal> i want to remove all of the 2.6.15 stuff
[05:57] <Kadran> kronoz: please tell me your openion after trying kubuntu cos' i need it from a person who really used both, thanks
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> So you want to downgrade to breezy from dapper ?
[05:58] <nixternal> hmm..i notice if i goto remove old headers, it wants to take with it gcc and all that stuff...the base packages
[05:58] <kronoz> Kadran, I would say Debian is more configurable, but I can't see any real reaons to use it over Kubuntu, execpt is it possibly faster if you tweak it and you have more choice
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> Its faster by default
[05:59] <kronoz> yeah but you could tweak it by using a certain kernel to make it faster
[05:59] <nixternal> hmm...linux-kernel-headers 2.6.11.2-0ubuntu17 ....select remove and it wants to take everything...that i don't care so much about...but why is it using old headers....2.6.11???
[06:00] <nixternal> debian is better off as a server....kubuntu as a desktop....
[06:00] <kronoz> does ubuntu make any changes to dpkg?
[06:00] <nixternal> but i have noticed some flakiness with debian and newer kernels also
[06:00] <kronoz> nixternal, yup
[06:01] <h3sp4wn> it is noticably faster running kde under debian sid than kubuntu (I have only tried under a chroot though)
[06:01] <nixternal> i am still running a 2.4 kernel on my debian sarge server
[06:01] <nixternal> i think the reason for that h3sp4wn is cuz kubuntu does come a little bloated...i have noticed that...but nothing some minor tweaking can't fix
[06:02] <nixternal> dapper that is...flight 7 to be exact...
[06:02] <h3sp4wn> Its not minor to remove all the internationalisation stuff which is what I think slows it down
[06:02] <nixternal> flight 7 was crazy bloated for em
[06:02] <nixternal> ya...i am in the process of doing more right now
[06:02] <nixternal> tis the reason i am using mIRC ow
[06:02] <nixternal> now
[06:02] <nixternal> and ow i guess ;p
[06:08] <h3sp4wn> The shell server that I use runs debian woody (2.2.20) with upto about 50 users most of the time. My server used to run sarge for a long time but I changed to dapper server (to look at novell ifolder enterprise but it was too slow) dappers pretty stable - and the usb2 stuff seems to be alot better in 2.6 (I have an external usb2 disk connected to it)
[06:10] <nixternal> kaffeine, kmplayer...which is best for videos?
[06:10] <nixternal> or your preference
[06:10] <uwo> question - if i would like to backup my system and try a new install of kubuntu, is it enough to copy the system and then format & copy it backto restore? in this case does tar cvpzf backup.tgz backup also hidden files?
[06:10] <kronoz> nixternal, i prefer mplayer myself
[06:11] <nixternal> i have too...i don't even think i have used kaffeine...it seemed bloated
[06:12] <kronoz> mozilla-mplayer is good for video and stuff in firefox
[06:12] <kronoz> bbl
[06:14] <jeroenvrp> nixternal: if you dont like bloat, use codeine
[06:14] <nixternal> lol
[06:14] <jeroenvrp> nixternal: that's an app :-)
[06:14] <nixternal> hey...if you want to remove knewsticker...a news ticker rss applet right...it wants to remove kdenetwork with it
[06:14] <nixternal> that is nuts
[06:15] <nixternal> no no...im laughin' cuz of knewsticker wantin' to take kdenetwork with it
[06:15] <jeroenvrp> ok
[06:15] <jeroenvrp> but I dont have newsticker
[06:15] <jeroenvrp> ooooh
[06:15] <nixternal> isn't that like trying to take off windows media player and then microshaft disabling your network?
[06:15] <jeroenvrp> no no
[06:15] <nixternal> exactly
[06:15] <jeroenvrp> kdenetwork is a metapackage
[06:15] <nixternal> i know
[06:16] <jeroenvrp> so there's nothing wrong with it to remove it
[06:16] <nixternal> but if you use synaptic, adept, apt...anything...and you select for removal of knewsticker...it says it takes kdenetwork with it
[06:17] <jeroenvrp> yes but kdenetwork is empty
[06:17] <frank_> nixternal: kdenetwork is probably just a metapackage
[06:17] <jeroenvrp> it is only used, so you can install all packages at once
[06:17] <nixternal> ok...so it isn't something i need thne
[06:17] <jeroenvrp> no
[06:17] <nixternal> it sounded important to me
[06:17] <nixternal> lol
[06:17] <jeroenvrp> should be in the discription
[06:18] <nixternal> it isn't
[06:18] <nixternal> description makes it sound like its needed
[06:18] <nixternal> glad you cleared that one up for me
[06:18] <frank_> nixternal:
[06:18] <frank_> This metapackage includes a collection of network and networking relatedapplications provided with the official release of KDE
[06:18] <nixternal> hey...what is that caffeine you were talkin' about??
[06:18] <mal_> #quit
[06:19] <nixternal> my kernel is so whicked lean and mean...but i need to make my front end lean and mean now
[06:19] <jeroenvrp> codeine
[06:19] <nixternal> yah...whats that about?
[06:19] <LinuxMonkey> whats better KDE or Gnome
[06:19] <nixternal> kde
[06:19] <LinuxMonkey> trick question...lol
[06:19] <nixternal> truthfully...i think it is a matter of prefference
[06:20] <LinuxMonkey> yeah
[06:20] <nixternal> you either like it or you don't
[06:20] <nixternal> they both have the pros and cons
[06:20] <jeroenvrp> nixternal: thats a very very clean videoplater for xine, like kafeine
[06:20] <frank_> LinuxMonkey: simple answer: try both ;)
[06:20] <nixternal> i like them both..but kde rox best for me
[06:20] <nixternal> ahhhh
[06:20] <nixternal> gotcha jeroenvrp
[06:20] <LinuxMonkey> whats better for running games
[06:20] <LinuxMonkey> lmao
[06:20] <frank_> LinuxMonkey: no difference for games
[06:20] <nixternal> once again...it is about a matter of preference
[06:21] <LinuxMonkey> whats the latest version of kubuntu?
[06:21] <nixternal> openoffice, koffice, staroffice?
[06:22] <frank_> LinuxMonkey: the latest released version is 5.10 (breezy)  6.6 (dapper) comes out June 1st
[06:22] <jeroenvrp> nixternal: difficult question
[06:22] <nixternal> i know
[06:22] <nixternal> haha
[06:22] <jeroenvrp> I use koffice
[06:22] <nixternal> thats why i asked it...you are on a roll jeroenvrp
[06:22] <jeroenvrp> but also sometimes openoffice
[06:22] <LinuxMonkey> frank_ is there a dapper beta?
[06:22] <nixternal> i have been using koffice myself...
[06:22] <jeroenvrp> it is a hate-love-relationship with both apps
[06:22] <nixternal> openoffice was kind of slow for me
[06:23] <frank_> LinuxMonkey: of course
[06:23] <nixternal> i used to use star office...which was way better than ms office back in the 90's
[06:23] <jeroenvrp> but openoffice does more, can write wordfiles and open word files perfectly
[06:23] <nixternal> remind you now...i haven't used x windows really since then...i have been a term freak
[06:23] <frank_> LinuxMonkey: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[06:23] <nixternal> i thought koffice could do the same....
[06:23] <jeroenvrp> and it has the option to spellcheck in more than one language atthe same time
[06:23] <LinuxMonkey> ok its flight 7 :) last one i tried was flight 3
[06:24] <jeroenvrp> koffice can open word files
[06:24] <frank_> LinuxMonkey: or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20060519/
[06:24] <jeroenvrp> but only text
[06:24] <nixternal> ahhh...
[06:24] <nixternal> well that kinda sux...
[06:24] <frank_> LinuxMonkey: new cd images come out every day for dapper
[06:24] <nixternal> koffice needs a lil more to it...cuz of the way it implements itself into the whole kde family
[06:24] <jeroenvrp> but if I write texts myself, i use koffice
[06:25] <LinuxMonkey> lol
[06:26] <semboy> hello
[06:26] <semboy> someone here how can help me
[06:26] <semboy> i am new to linux
[06:27] <semboy> i want to update or install a video card for Ge Force Fx 6600
[06:27] <semboy> how do i do it ?
[06:28] <frank_> !nvidia
[06:28] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:28] <frank_> gotta go
[06:28] <genjix> anyone know why I have an empty routing table?
[06:28] <genjix> (no loopback device)
[06:29] <semboy> The NVIDIA drivers are in the "restricted" section of the Ubuntu Package
[06:29] <semboy> wher the is that?
[06:29] <semboy> wher is that that?
[06:29] <frank_> semboy: restricted is available by default
[06:30] <semboy> i mean _> restricted
[06:30] <semboy> okei ?
[06:30] <frank_> semboy: use adept to install nvdia-glx for example
[06:30] <semboy> now i understaND
[06:30] <semboy> :)
[06:31] <klerfayt> I got strange problem with "nvidia-settings" - they reset my settings to default values every time I log in
[06:34] <semboy> Synaptic Package Manager.  how do i install this?
[06:35] <semboy> i cant find it in package manager
[06:35] <semboy> (Adpt)
[06:36] <rnunes> hi
[06:37] <semboy> hello
[06:38] <semboy> someone knowz how to install ubuntu?
[06:38] <semboy> i am on kubuntu
[06:38] <kkathman> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:40] <semboy> semboy@SigurNafnjesu:~$ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:40] <semboy> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:40] <semboy> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:41] <semboy> what does it mean?
[06:42] <kkathman> be sure to use sudo
[06:42] <semboy> i got it :)
[06:43] <kkathman> and you probably are currently still running something
[06:43] <kkathman> like synaptic
[06:43] <semboy> i know :P
[06:43] <PhilHyde> Heya. Got a possible newbie question here:
[06:43] <nixternal> hey PhilHyde...let er rip...i been askin' um all day ;D
[06:44] <semboy> what is good gdm or kdm?
[06:44] <semboy> :S
[06:44] <kkathman> both
[06:44] <kkathman> depends on your personal preference
[06:45] <PhilHyde> OK. In previous Linux distros I've used, it was easy to get characters with accents when using X/KDE; Shift+CTRL, then the letter, then a punctuation mark that was roughly like the accent.
[06:45] <PhilHyde> However, it's apparently turned off or not there in Kubuntu. Any idea if I can switch it on somewhere?
[06:45] <kkathman> PhilHyde: kcontrol  then look for the regional settings .. check that out
[06:46] <PhilHyde> Already looked, nothing like it there.
[06:47] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: I use deadkeys for that. I tap ` (backtick) followed by e to produce , for instance
[06:48] <EvilIdler> Now, if I only could produce all Greek symbols, I'd be happy :)
[06:48] <PhilHyde> Sounds like what I was using. How do I turn deadkeys on?
[06:49] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: Unless it says "nodeadkeys" in the keymap settings, it should be on.
[06:49] <nixternal> wheee...now kubuntu boots blank...lovely
[06:49] <nixternal> lol
[06:49] <nixternal> i hate when this happens
[06:50] <EvilIdler> InitNoGo? :P
[06:50] <PhilHyde> Aha. And where are the "keymap settings"?
[06:50] <nixternal> ;D
[06:51] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: kcontrol -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout
[06:51] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: If you have a keyboard with winkeys/penguinkeys and a menukey, pick a 105-key international
[06:51] <PhilHyde> Nothing there that mentiones dead keys
[06:52] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: Your selected keymap shows something in 'command' when you click it
[06:52] <PhilHyde> I'm using a 105-key UK keyboard
[06:52] <PhilHyde> Aha, I see that.
[06:52] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: Click your UK layout under 'Active layouts'
[06:52] <PhilHyde> I've already got the UK layout. It's the only one KDE is set to use.
[06:52] <EvilIdler> I've got "setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout no -variant basic", which implies deadkeys, since 'nodeadkeys' isn't mentioned
[06:53] <PhilHyde> "setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout gb -variant basic" here
[06:53] <EvilIdler> Now you just need to find `, ', ", ~ and ^ symbols :)
[06:53] <nixternal> seems that my xorg got borged....reinstall nvidia drivers and wallah
[06:53] <nixternal> i loves this stuff
[06:53] <PhilHyde> `;"~^. Already there.
[06:54] <PhilHyde> `'"~^, sorry. Typo :)
[06:54] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: Do you need to press them twice for them to appear alone?
[06:54] <PhilHyde> No
[06:54] <EvilIdler> I can barely read what they are with this font anyway :P
[06:55] <PhilHyde> So how do I activate the old Shift+Ctrl, Letter, Punctuation? Is it a feature that was long since removed?
[06:55] <EvilIdler> Strange. What if you select "Generoc 105-key(Intl)) PC" keyboard?
[06:55] <nixternal> EvilIdler....i had issues last night with initNoGo ;D
[06:55] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: I've never actually used that sort of combination
[06:56] <nixternal> i just got done scrubbing my system
[06:56] <nixternal> removing some of the overhead
[06:56] <PhilHyde> Ah, that's what I have already. "Generic 105 key (Intl) PC", UK layout.
[06:56] <EvilIdler> nixternal: You certainly scared me off trying it again ;)
[06:56] <nixternal> looks like i removed a little to much ;p
[06:56] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: Let's see if I have a UK keyboard lying about :)
[06:56] <nixternal> i setup grub for 2 kernels...so i was safe
[06:56] <PhilHyde> Ahhhhh got it
[06:56] <trym>  libxcomposite-dev: Depends: libxcomposite1 (= 1:0.2.2.2-0ubuntu2) but 1:0.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[06:56] <nixternal> kubuntu is back up and running
[06:57] <nixternal> gahahah EvilIdler
[06:57] <PhilHyde> Ah, no, its not working right
[06:57] <nixternal> whoa...my desktop flies...and top is lean and mean
[06:57] <nixternal> god i love this....
[06:58] <PhilHyde> Used the "Layout variant" combo box, set it to "intl", and suddenly had to hit every bit of punctuation twice. That's screwed up.
[06:58] <trym> how do I force that to accept the 0.3 version  ?
[06:58] <nixternal> i shall return....
[07:00] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: No, that's actually better, unless you mean full stop, comma etc., too :)
[07:00] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: That's what deadkeys are.
[07:01] <PhilHyde> Aha. Well, they're awful :)
[07:01] <EvilIdler> Hit the deadkey once, a letter, and get 
[07:01] <PhilHyde> Particularily for someone who uses apostrophes.
[07:01] <nixternal> ok...back now...this machine is runnin' really good now
[07:01] <EvilIdler> My local keyboard (for local people!) has two apostrophes
[07:01] <nixternal> i have a couple of wireless things installed...that i need to pinpoint and remove...cuz this thing will never use wireless
[07:02] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: Keymap layouts are a pain, in general. I lose square brackets on a regular basis. Not good for a programmer ;)
[07:03] <PhilHyde> Might have found a hint at a solution; apparently the Shift+Ctrl combo is referred to as a mapping of the "Compose key". So if I can find out where it's configured and how to map it to something I want...
[07:04] <nixternal> here is a question for you....in system settings right...i uninstalled all bluetooth stuff....and there is a bogus icon left in system settings...how can i remove the bluetooth from system settings?
[07:04] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: Xkb options :)
[07:04] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: A veritable minefield of cryptic options ;)
[07:05] <PhilHyde> Yeah, figured I'd have to go delving in there.
[07:05] <nico8481> hi
[07:05] <PhilHyde> It's not terribly well explained what a lot of those options are for, but at least I've found one.
[07:05] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: There's a field for the Eurosign. You might need to change that to allow for  and 
[07:05] <nixternal> foudn it
[07:06] <EvilIdler> PhilHyde: man xkbcomp, perhaps
[07:10] <randabis> wish I could find a decent mirror for the kubuntu 6.06 beta 2 livecd
[07:10] <crimsun> randabis: you'd be better off using a flight 7 live cd
[07:11] <EvilIdler> randabis: Get the latest one, and try by torrent.
[07:11] <EvilIdler> If there is a torrent, that is
[07:11] <macd> all the repos seem to be crawling today (us ones)
[07:12] <randabis> haven't been able to find a torrent for that
[07:12] <randabis> flight 7 is the newest?
[07:12] <semboy> hello
[07:12] <semboy> someone here
[07:12] <crimsun> randabis: official milestone, yes
[07:12] <randabis> ah okay
[07:12] <randabis> thanks
[07:13] <semboy> what is the good program or software to play Steam games
[07:13] <randabis> I thought the beta was the newest, :/
[07:13] <EvilIdler> The announcement of Flight 7 did of course happen 6 hours after I burned a live DVD of the previous one :P
[07:14] <gilster> hello i need help with suspend mode
[07:14] <gilster> how do i automatically place computer in suspend mode?
[07:15] <gilster> i am using kshutdown and want to set timer for suspend not poweroff or restart
[07:16] <gilster> does anyone know how to do this?
[07:17] <randabis> well, now the problem is finding a good flight 7 mirror :p
[07:18] <wasp_ems> can someone tell me why i cannot send files with kopete?
[07:18] <trip> anyways else having trouble getting updates for dapper?
[07:18] <trip> s/anyways/anyone
[07:19] <randabis> hmm
[07:19] <klerfayt> trip: what is your problem?
[07:19] <trip> It's just timing out
[07:19] <randabis> releases.ubuntu.com shows kubuntu 6.06 LTS beta 2
[07:19] <trip> guessing the servers might be under heavy load or something
[07:19] <klerfayt> ahaa I had similar problem
[07:19] <randabis> is there a different place for flight 7?
[07:19] <klerfayt> try sudo apt-get update in konsole
[07:20] <trip> yeah that's what i did
[07:20] <klerfayt> trip: then sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:20] <trip> it took a good while for it to download all the package lists
[07:20] <trip> now it's just timing out when i try apt-get upgrade
[07:20] <klerfayt> trip: sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:20] <trip> yeah that's what i'm doing
[07:20] <macd> trip, yes the US repos are crawling today
[07:21] <trip> boooo
[07:21] <trip> figures the day i decide to upgrade to dapper
[07:21] <mhterres> #ldap
[07:21] <trip> the servers are crawling
[07:21] <trip> hehe
[07:21] <macd> well thats most likely why, everyones going dapper
[07:21] <trip> true
[07:21] <trip> I know this info is on the website but to save time, what's the official release date?
[07:21] <macd> though my ati still wont work in DRI :(
[07:21] <randabis> i found it
[07:21] <macd> June something
[07:22] <trip> Have you tried out automatix 6.0?
[07:22] <trip> yay i got in
[07:22] <trip> go upgrades go
[07:23] <macd> sure havent, Ive been using ubuntu since text based installer, and just been using apt ever since to upgrade
[07:23] <trip> yeah
[07:23] <trip> i like automatix bc it handles the codecs
[07:23] <trip> I've been a debian fan for a long long time <3
[07:23] <ccc_> !automatix
[07:23] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[07:24] <randabis> though some people swear by automatix
[07:24] <trip> hm i haven't heard of easyubuntu
[07:24] <trip> Automatix is fine if you're comfortable fixing problems it my cause
[07:25] <ccc_> lol, i guess everything is fine by those standards
[07:25] <randabis> this will be interesting trying out expresso
[07:25] <trip> ccc_, true
[07:25] <randabis> apx 3:35 left on download
[07:25] <trip> I've always been the kind of kid that loves breaking my OS
[07:25] <trip> ;)
[07:25] <mhterres> hey guys, I'm having a trouble using xdmcp
[07:25] <randabis> stupid truck stop wifi isn't that fast
[07:26] <ccc_> trip: then automatix is perfect for you :D
[07:26] <trip> haha
[07:26] <trip> Well I'll check out easyubuntu
[07:26] <mhterres> When the client sessions is logoff, my session is logged off too
[07:26] <trip> or i'll just take a day off my slackology study and doit all manually
[07:26] <jjesse> !automatix
[07:26] <ubotu> automatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[07:26] <jjesse> !easyubuntu
[07:26] <ubotu> somebody said easyubuntu was an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[07:28] <trip> mmm nothing like 196MB of updates
[07:28] <Broxtor> Hi. My Kubuntu Dapper doesn't remember the default applications I set. Is there some way to solve that?
[07:30] <randabis> stab with fork?
[07:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ss AG WRT55AG, ...
[07:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> www.ciao.co.uk/Linksys_Dual_Band_Wireless_A_G_Broadband_Router_WRT55AG__5816111 - 52k - Cached - Similar pages
[07:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> SMC Networks SMC EZ-Stream SMC2304WBR-AG Router - Yahoo! Shopping
[07:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sorry
[07:30] <randabis> =o
[07:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the string that i wanted to past was: what is a G router?
[07:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> speaking about wifi ones
[07:31] <jpatrick> trip: I have 317MB
[07:31] <trip> jpatrick, you win!
[07:31] <trip> Tallia1Kubuntu, is a varient of the 802.11 stanfard
[07:31] <gilster> how do i set automatic suspend mode
[07:31] <jpatrick> trip: heh :)
[07:32] <trip> standard*
[07:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oh, so it means only 802.11g connection?
[07:32] <trip> jpatrick well if your connection to the apt servers is anything like mine today
[07:32] <trip> you're gonna be waiting all day
[07:32] <trip> lol
[07:32] <jpatrick> trip: 104kBs/s 49m22s
[07:32] <trip> I wonder if my boss would give me the day off to upgrade my laptop from home
[07:33] <trip> lol
[07:33] <trip> jpatrick, lucky bastage, i got one package downloaded and then it timed out before even starting the net one
[07:33] <trip> net/next
[07:33] <jpatrick> :)
[07:33] <trip> stupid work dsl is ridiculously slow
[07:34] <ajayc> guys prob
[07:34] <jpatrick> trip: too many people downloading porn I guess
[07:34] <ajayc> when i run the livecd
[07:34] <ajayc> and select shutdown
[07:35] <ajayc> it get stuck at press enter to continue
[07:35] <ajayc> any ideas?
[07:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> jpatrick: porn... or movies that in the ends reveal to be porns
[07:35] <trip> jpatrick, too many people decided to upgrade to dapper the same day as me
[07:35] <trip> how dare they.
[07:35] <jpatrick> Tallia1Kubuntu: both
[07:35] <ajayc> help me
[07:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[07:35] <jpatrick> trip: I think they dared alot
[07:36] <ajayc> HELP ME
[07:36] <trip> I think they're plotting against me
[07:36] <trip> ajayc, i haven't had that issue so i have no advice
[07:36] <mpathy> Hi there
[07:36] <ajayc> is acpi enabled by default?
[07:36] <jpatrick> ajayc:
[07:36] <jpatrick> me neither
[07:37] <trip> ajayc, do you close all your applications before you shutdown?
[07:37] <ajayc> yes
[07:37] <mpathy> Hello! If someone can tell me where I can find these default icons of konqueror or where I can reactivate them, then I will happy to switch to Kubuntu: http://konqueror.kde.org/pics/konq_icon.png (talking about all the icons left of the zoom buttons)
[07:38] <mpathy> especially the view mode button
[07:39] <jpatrick> mpathy: enable them in the toolbars?
[07:40] <mpathy> jpatrick: as I said.. if someone can tell me where there are in Kubuntu, then I will switch, because they are essential.. they are not there where they should be (btw using KDE before for 4 years..)
[07:41] <jpatrick> They are
[07:41] <jpatrick> mpathy: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[07:44] <mpathy> jpatrick: yes I know.. okay, perhaps I got my dumb week ;) would you be so kind to tell me where they are or what they called in Kubuntu?
[07:45] <jpatrick> mpathy: they're the dafault icons (Crystal SVG)
[07:45] <mpathy> jpatrick: I didnt mean the iconset :)
[07:46] <EvilIdler> I think mpathy's problem is he can't find the menu where you switch the main toolbar back on
[07:47] <mpathy> EvilIdler:  jpatrick: I need the button where I can chosse between: icon view, detailed file list view, tree view..
[07:47] <EvilIdler> mpathy: That's on the main toolbar. Three buttons.
[07:48] <mpathy> which release did you use?
[07:48] <EvilIdler> The Konqueror window has a Settings menu. The first choice under that is Toolbars.
[07:48] <mpathy> everyone try to talk to me like I am a newbie to KDE and Konqueror ;)
[07:48] <mpathy> I know
[07:48] <EvilIdler> Breezy, KDE 3.4
[07:49] <EvilIdler> Have they moved around that menu in later releases, or something?
[07:49] <mpathy> Right, now, to be sure that I am not the person who screwed it, I use the live cd ;)
[07:49] <mpathy> dapper
[07:50] <mhterres> Anybody here uses dapper with ltsp ?
[07:50] <EvilIdler> Then someone on Dapper will have to find the option for you ;)
[07:51] <mpathy> And I go here and in the german kubuntu channel but everyone either want to tell me the solution to another problem, tell me I screwed something or just say "its there. you just dont see it" - for a whole week? ;)
[07:52] <EvilIdler> mpathy: Can you take a screenshot of your Konqueror windows?
[07:53] <mpathy> EvilIdler: You can also use these from a kubuntu live-cd screenshot website ;) I didnt do anything but only start the cd, but be 100% sure I am not the problem ;)
[07:55] <EvilIdler> My fave excuse is always sunspots or phases of the moon :)
[07:55] <mpathy> Anyone here who uses Kubuntu Dapper?
[07:56] <EvilIdler> I can only find 5.10 screenshots, which look exactly like mine
[07:57] <trip> i'm using dapper
[07:57] <semboy> !wine
[07:57] <trip> but not for long if thse upgrades don't start
[07:57] <Samuli^> www.freewebs.com/arpakyna/dapper.jpg
[07:57] <mpathy> And would do me the favour of searching a button like the one pressed on this screenshot, which is from the offical Konqueror page: http://konqueror.kde.org/pics/konq_icon.png
[07:57] <Samuli^> evilider, there's a dapper screenshot :)
[07:58] <mpathy> Samuli^: Yeah yeah, Ubuntu works I know *sigh* :)
[07:58] <trip> mpathy, what do you mean
[07:59] <mpathy> trip: Do you have a button in your Konqueror in dapper that looks like the one right of the zoom buttons in the screenshot I posted? the one who is pressed
[07:59] <EvilIdler> And the Settings menu in that screenshot isn't in your edition, mpathy ?
[08:00] <mpathy> EvilIdler: It is not. Go to the offical konqueror page.. konqueror.kde.org ;)
[08:00] <trip> no
[08:00] <EvilIdler> Then it's probably something about the simplified Konqueror config that Kubuntu defaults to. There's something about it in a FAQ or Wiki
[08:01] <mpathy> EvilIdler: I know that the Konqueror in Kubuntu is different, but I should be possible to reactivate some functionality, shouldnt it?
[08:01] <mpathy> trip: Thanks for your response..
[08:01] <trip> right click on your menus
[08:01] <mpathy> trip: And if you would be so kind, do you find it in your Toolbar Configuration?
[08:01] <trip> goto toolbars
[08:01] <trip> and enable the extras toolbar
[08:02] <mpathy> trip: And then? There it is not.
[08:02] <trip> hm
[08:02] <EvilIdler> mpathy: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[08:02] <mpathy> trip: Only the split view button, who look similar
[08:02] <mpathy> EvilIdler: I did that to without success for the problem I have
[08:03] <mpathy> -to +too,
[08:03] <EvilIdler> mpathy: It's possible that the live cd makes it difficult to get the standard profiles
[08:03] <EvilIdler> You WILL get the buttons by installing it properly, though.
[08:03] <mpathy> EvilIdler: I tried it even in an installation..
[08:03] <trip> I'm using dapper full install on HD
[08:04] <trip> and they're not there
[08:04] <EvilIdler> Did you kep your old KDE settings from another distro?
[08:04] <trip> I just don't have an issue going to view toolbar and changing it there
[08:04] <trip> lol
[08:04] <mpathy> trip: I HAVE
[08:04] <mpathy> trip: Its an enourmous usabilitiy issue, its one of the most important buttons in a file manager
[08:04] <trip> it is?
[08:04] <trip> lol
[08:05] <trip> I always found the location bar to be the most important
[08:05] <mpathy> trip: and there is not even a way to assign shortcuts to these menu entrys
[08:05] <trip> there most likely is you just dont know how
[08:06] <mpathy> trip: Then it starts with Kubuntu that I dont know how.. I am using KDE for 4,5 years
[08:07] <semboy> i did this wget http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb
[08:07] <mpathy> trip: before KDE installations were on Debian and Knoppix and Kanotix.. so it should be that different.. Konqueror = Konqueror, and if not, Kubuntu broke it ;)
[08:11] <mpathy> and like the other days, after not succeding in telling me I am a newbie and only have to look right (and maybe longer then a week?) there is only the sound of silence..
[08:11] <mpathy> sorry for being sarcastic.. :)
[08:13] <EvilIdler> mpathy: I'd like to see a screenshot of the Settings->Toolbars menu you have, because it's submissible as evidence in a UI bugreport ;)
[08:14] <mpathy> okay will put you a brand new one after rebooting the live cd to be 100% sure!
[08:14] <trip> lol
[08:15] <EvilIdler> There should also be a context-menu when you right-click on any toolbars that ARE there, where you can select the missing ones
[08:15] <ninniuz> hi I read the shipit just started...does that mean it is possible to download Kubuntu dapper drake now?
[08:15] <ninniuz> I mean the stable release, not the beta ones
[08:15] <mpathy> EvilIdler: I know - but what do I have from that? Its on now toolbar available
[08:16] <EvilIdler> mpathy: So do you have the buttons in that toolbar or not?
[08:17] <ninniuz> is it?
[08:18] <EvilIdler> ninniuz: There were reports of slow downloads today
[08:18] <EvilIdler> Shipit is just snailmail shipment
[08:18] <mpathy> EvilIdler: I dont have
[08:18] <ninniuz> yes I know what it is...but I'd prefer downloading it
[08:19] <ninniuz> just trying to understand if this is not the beta release
[08:19] <EvilIdler> mpathy: If you rightclick the toolbar and click the "Configure Toolbars.." choice, you should be be able to add the viewmode buttons by adding "ActionList: viewmode" from the list
[08:20] <ninniuz> ty anyway se you
[08:21] <Search4Lancer> GRRRRRR..... I am getting so goddamn sick of Firefox closing when I try to reorganize tabs
[08:21] <mpathy> EvilIdler: Thats the way I can do it somewhere else.. On Kubuntu Dapper there is on Actionlist: viewmode
[08:22] <jpatrick> Search4Lancer: use Konqueror
[08:23] <EvilIdler> mpathy: Then it sounds broken. Breezy has it all, so I'd call that a bug.
[08:23] <Search4Lancer> jpatrick: no
[08:23] <Search4Lancer> shouldn't have to
[08:23] <mpathy> EvilIdler: Where can I report it that it will be fixed the fastest way? its not that long to Release
[08:24] <Search4Lancer> and I already have all my work stuff in Firefox, and I've found Firefox to be much easier to use for my work than Konquerer
[08:26] <EvilIdler> mpathy: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[08:26] <EvilIdler> mpathy: Actually. https://launchpad.net/
[08:27] <mpathy> oh yeah sure
[08:28] <Armagguedes>  i've just updated amarok to v1.4.. when i play a file, the sidebar auto-jumps from "playlists" to "context". How do i disable that (in the previous version this did not occur).
[08:29] <apokryphos> Armagguedes: might be worth asking in #amarok
[08:30] <Armagguedes> hm ok
[08:30] <Armagguedes> tks apokryphos
[08:36] <nelio> bonsoir
[08:37] <nelio> j'aurai un petit souci
[08:37] <jpatrick> !fr
[08:37] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:38] <nelio> oh ok
[08:38] <nelio> sorry
[08:40] <trym> How do I fix this: libxcomposite-dev: Depends: libxcomposite1 (= 1:0.2.2.2-0ubuntu2) but 1:0.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed ?
[08:41] <EvilIdler> trym: If you're on Dapper, try updating the package lists again
[08:55] <fumomo> bonsoir
[08:55] <fumomo> je voudrais savoir comment on fais pour afficher les debits de transfert lors de la copie de fichier sous konqueror?
[08:55] <jpatrick> !fr
[08:55] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:56] <fumomo> oups
[08:56] <fumomo> how can i see the transfert speed when i do a copy/paste under konqueror?
[08:57] <Blissex> fumomo: 'vmstat 1' in a terminal window
[08:58] <fumomo> thx but how display it in the little progression windows?
[08:58] <fumomo> sometimes it's show it
[08:59] <fumomo> not always
[09:01] <kkathman> .j #ubuntu+1
[09:01] <kkathman> ehh
[09:13] <eosyn> apt system seems hosed
[09:13] <eosyn> waiting for headers till the sheep come home
[09:19] <thinX> hello
[09:20] <klerfayt> in klaptop is passive mode=supend to ram?
[09:20] <thinX> when I try the kubuntu live cd, after much loading and hardware scanning and stuff, all I get is a command prompt - ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[09:20] <thinX> why?
[09:25] <xwolf-> thinX tried 'startx &' already?
[09:25] <xwolf-> i don't know why.
[09:26] <thinX> nope, will will try. What should I try if that doesn't work
[09:27] <pm> help, i can't turn off antialiasing for gtk2 apps in dapper!!!
[09:28] <pm> kcontrol fonts settings don't work, editing fonts.conf doesn't help either
[09:30] <thinX> does kubuntu not work with ati video cards?
[09:33] <DarkED> whats a good widget engine for kde?
[09:33] <ccc_> thinX: sure does, i use one
[09:33] <gall_> does anyone uses Dapper?
[09:34] <thinX> i'm running on the live cd, would that  make a difference
[09:34] <ccc_> DarkED: i like QtCurve since it's very configurable
[09:34] <DarkED> thinX, yeah i use a mobility radeon 9700 just fine
[09:34] <DarkED> ccc_, qtcurve, ok, thanks
[09:34] <thinX> i'm told i can 'install' ati drivers but if it's the live cd, can they be 'installed'?
[09:35] <DarkED> ccc_, hmm i searched for it with apt-cache, it came up as kde-style-klearlook
[09:35] <DarkED> ccc_, im guessing that isnt it
[09:35] <DarkED> thinX, yeah if you actually install the system
[09:35] <gall_> i have problem wih amarok - it doesn't play mp3
[09:35] <DarkED> thinX, dude it would be a waste of time
[09:35] <thinX> can't install the system, not my machine
[09:36] <DarkED> thinX, the best way to see if it will work, is to download the real installer and install the system
[09:36] <ccc_> DarkED: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=38295
[09:36] <DarkED> ccc_, thanks a bunch
[09:37] <ccc_> DarkED: np. the screenshot doesn't give much since it's so configurable :)
[09:37] <DarkED> ccc_, yeah i dont judge by screenshots :D
[09:38] <DarkED> ccc_, did you just dpkg -i to install it?
[09:38] <ccc_> yes
[09:38] <uwo> hi all. is there a qt mule client?
[09:39] <ccc_> lipstik and plastik are popular too, but i believe both come with kde
[09:40] <DarkED> ccc_, hmm it says i am missing some kdelibs, which dont exist
[09:41] <slow-motion> re
[09:42] <DarkED> crap
[09:42] <ccc_> DarkED: which ones?
[09:42] <DarkED> ccc_, kdelibs4c2
[09:42] <DarkED> ccc_, it says that kdelibs4c2a replaces it, and that there is not kdelibs4c2
[09:43] <DarkED> ccc_, qtcurve still wants kdelibs4c2 though :D
[09:45] <DarkED> ccc_, you do know what i mean by widgets yes?
[09:45] <DarkED> haha nevermind
[09:45] <DarkED> qtcurve is a style
[09:45] <DarkED> i need a widget engine
[09:46] <kronoz> do any kubuntu repos have the w32codecs package?
[09:46] <thinX> ok, better question. How many months before kubuntu will just support my  vidcard out of the box without any extra hacking around on the users part? 6 months, 9 months, 14?
[09:47] <thinX> I've waited 2 years I can wait some more
[09:47] <thoreauputic> !codecs
[09:47] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[09:47] <thoreauputic> !easysource
[09:47] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:48] <kronoz> thinX, if you mean nVidia, probably never i think
[09:49] <thinX> ati actually
[09:50] <ccc_> DarkED: d'oh! sorry mate, misunderstood you there.
[09:50] <DarkED> ccc_, np :D
[09:51] <DarkED> ccc_, by widgets i mean little tools/monitors/etc you can put on your desktop
[09:51] <DarkED> ccc_, look up the yahoo widget engine (aka konfabulator) to see what i mean
[09:51] <ccc_> yeah, what you're looking for is probably superkaramba
[09:51] <kronoz> hmm, source-o-matic is quite cool :)
[09:53] <Bizzeh> how do i add mp3 to amrok now?
[09:53] <Bizzeh> (xine engine)
[09:53] <kronoz> can you pass an option to sudo to use X like sux?
[09:54] <thoreauputic> kronoz: kdesu ?
[10:20] <Bazzi> uuuh where can I select to get kubuntu from shipit and not ubuntu?
[10:20] <Bazzi> it currently only offers me ubuntu
[10:21] <Bazzi> oh, wups, I have to use shipit.kubuntu.org :/
[10:23] <menno_> does anybody know if there is a program for the printer so you can put more pages on one paper (A4)?
[10:28] <I_Eat_Plastic> how do I manually change from gnome to kde with synaptic?
[10:29] <opapo> is there anyone who can access an iseries with kubuntu?
[10:30] <thoreauputic> I_Eat_Plastic: install kubuntu-desktop
[10:30] <thoreauputic> I_Eat_Plastic: although that *adds* KDE really
[10:30] <kbrooks> does kubuntu inclde python-qt?
[10:30] <kbrooks> include*
[10:31] <I_Eat_Plastic> thoreauputic: so, then I delete gnome. what's the package manager for kde?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> I_Eat_Plastic: adept
[10:32] <I_Eat_Plastic> thanks
[10:32] <thoreauputic> I_Eat_Plastic: but dleting gnome isn't that easy you know :)
[10:32] <thoreauputic> *deleting
[10:33] <I_Eat_Plastic> thoreauputic: how do I go about doing so?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> also a lot of people prefer synaptic to adept ( I use apt-get )
[10:34] <thoreauputic> I_Eat_Plastic: I never tried it - I guess removing something like libgtk* would do the trick though
[10:35] <Bazzi> aptitude should be able to safely remove ubuntu-desktop and dependencies
[10:35] <thoreauputic> Bazzi: yes, but only if it was installed using aptitude I think
[10:35] <Bazzi> hm
[10:36] <thoreauputic> apt-get and aptitude don't talk to each other much ;)
[10:36] <troy> anyone else having trouble with today's amarok 1.4.0a packages?
[10:36] <Bazzi> question is on install time, what is used
[10:36] <thoreauputic> deborphan might be the trick
[10:37] <troy> Riddell: are you around?
[10:42] <kronoz> i can never open the adept-updater so i just use apt-get
[10:43] <Flosoft> hey @ all
[10:43] <uwo> where is the sources list located?
[10:43] <kronoz> hi
[10:43] <kronoz> uwo, /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:43] <uwo> tnx :)
[10:54] <DarkED> is kde very ram-heavy?
[10:58] <Riddell> troy: I just tried amarok 1.4.0a on amd64 and it works good for me
[10:59] <DaSkreech> Riddell: I got Amarok 1.4
[10:59] <DaSkreech> Thanks
[10:59] <DaSkreech> DarkED: If you want it to be :-)
[10:59] <paulvolk> Hellp I am having trouble with adept
[11:00] <paulvolk> When I try to open it it gives me the prompt and evrything but when I type in the right password it claims I have to be root or else there is no use in running the program.
[11:00] <paulvolk> How can I fix it?
[11:02] <chx> hi. anyone could tell me quickly how could I determine whether my CPU is 64-bit capable?
[11:02] <chx> I got a mobile Sempron and have no idea... some desktop Semprons are already 64 bit
[11:03] <chx> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm
[11:03] <chx> that's from cpuinfo
[11:03] <EvilIdler> Stepping and model?
[11:03] <chx> stepping 2, model 44 (model name Mobile AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+)
[11:04] <DarkED> is there any way to get amarok to read my wma to it's collection?
[11:04] <DaSkreech> DarkED: Do you have 1.4?
[11:04] <DarkED> DaSkreech, nope, 1.3.9
[11:05] <chx> I see I have SSE3... that's not too bad :)
[11:05] <DarkED> DaSkreech, does 1.4 do it?
[11:05] <DaSkreech> Riddell: So 1.4 won't be in the dapper repos?
[11:05] <DaSkreech> DarkED: si
[11:05] <DaSkreech> Check the Kubuntu page
[11:05] <Riddell> DaSkreech: no
[11:05] <EvilIdler> chx: Do you see a codename?
[11:05] <DarkED> DaSkreech, ok thanks
[11:06] <DaSkreech> Riddell: So no kopete .12 either?
[11:06] <Riddell> no
[11:06] <Bazzi> will they be in ubuntu-backports soon?
[11:06] <zlack> anyone knows the sollution for kde + xgl and not having borders?
[11:06] <DaSkreech> *sighs* There will be a kubuntu.org deb release ala Amarok?
[11:06] <chx> EvilIdler: http://pastebin.com/727226
[11:06] <chx> EvilIdler: thanks for your help
[11:07] <Riddell> DaSkreech: not from me
[11:07] <Riddell> but it would be good to get into backports
[11:09] <EvilIdler> chx: This is actually one of the trickiest things in the world to find out, for some reason :P  - what'
[11:09] <EvilIdler> chx: What is the output from lspci?
[11:10] <DaSkreech> I mailed martin on the katapult page
[11:10] <DaSkreech> I haven't had a reply yet
[11:10] <chx> EvilIdler: that lahf_lm  ... is not that LAHF support in Long Mode ??
[11:12] <chx> (where Long Mode is x86-64)
[11:13] <EvilIdler> chx: Probably. I think it is 64-bit, since model 43 is A64 dual-core
[11:13] <nixternal`v2> wth
[11:13] <nixternal`v2> freenode boots me more than any other irc server i have ever been on
[11:13] <nixternal`v2> can't idle i guess ;(
[11:14] <nixternal`v2> now i have to wait 2 hours for my other nick to time out
[11:14] <EvilIdler> chx: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/201
[11:15] <EvilIdler> chx: I'd say it is
[11:15] <aseigo> nixternal`v2: did you register your other nick?
[11:15] <nixternal`v2> yup
[11:15] <aseigo> nixternal`v2: did you try ghost'ing it then?
[11:15] <nixternal`v2> linking you mean???
[11:15] <aseigo> no
[11:15] <aseigo> try: /msg nickserv ghost nixternal <your password here>
[11:16] <nixternal`v2> speak to me oh wise one
[11:16] <nixternal`v2> lemme try
[11:16] <aseigo> bling
[11:16] <nixternal`v2> thank you sir
[11:16] <aseigo> you may now hug me.
[11:16] <nixternal> you are my hero
[11:16] <aseigo> huzzah!
[11:16] <nixternal> haha
[11:16] <nixternal> i learn something new every 15 seconds
[11:17] <aseigo> provies today's "entertainment": http://66.232.104.199/~vidpipe2/comp/28xuqvi/tunaktunaktun_598.wmv
[11:17] <nixternal> gahaha
[11:17] <nixternal> that song is still around?
[11:17] <aseigo> (beware, it may destroy your ability to discern "music" from "random collections of air-borne vibrations")
[11:17] <nixternal> dude...i had that freakin' video like 6 years ago
[11:17] <aseigo> it's a classic though
[11:17] <nixternal> the colorful indian rox
[11:18] <nixternal> he is whicked with his pointer finger
[11:18] <nixternal> ;D
[11:18] <nixternal> amarok is pissing me off
[11:22] <chx> EvilIdler: alas it's not 64 bit
[11:22] <chx> how could I monitor a nVidia GPU temperature (nvidia proprietary driver)
[11:23] <DarkED> DaSkreech, thanks for telling me about amarok 1.4
[11:23] <EvilIdler> lm-sensors should support all nForce now
[11:23] <EvilIdler> chx: Semprons are a pain to identify :/
[11:23] <DaSkreech> DarkED: Sure It works now?
[11:23] <nixternal> yes it does...and nicely i may add
[11:23] <DarkED> DaSkreech, It's downloading
[11:23] <DarkED> DaSkreech, I think I need taglibwma
[11:23] <DarkED> DaSkreech, or some such
[11:24] <DarkED> DaSkreech, I'm hoping it comes with what it needs and i can make it work, cause I love amarok
[11:24] <DarkED> unfortunately half my collection is wma
[11:24] <DarkED> :D
[11:25] <DarkED> I think I might just convert all my wma's to mp3's or ogg
[11:25] <DarkED> mp3 would be better cause i have an mp3 headunit in my car
[11:25] <EvilIdler> You'll lose quality that way. Just re-rip.
[11:26] <DarkED> EvilIdler, cant, dont have the source medium anymore, they were stolen
[11:26] <kronoz> !m3
[11:26] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kronoz
[11:26] <themoddingden> hey guys and gals is there a know issue with the logitech mx1000 mouse and sis 191 nic and realtek 8139 nics
[11:26] <kronoz> !mp3
[11:26] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:26] <EvilIdler> DarkED: Anything really hard to find?
[11:26] <chx> EvilIdler: No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them. despite of [4294685.860000]  i2c_adapter i2c-0: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x5000 and [4294685.860000]  i2c_adapter i2c-1: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x5040
[11:27] <EvilIdler> chx: You need i2c installed. Should be in the default kernel, though
[11:27] <DarkED> EvilIdler, not particularly but i dont have a steady internet connection and i dont have the money to re-buy 100 or so cd's
[11:27] <nixternal> argh
[11:27] <EvilIdler> DarkED: That's crappy :/
[11:27] <DarkED> EvilIdler, yeah i know, tell that to the guy who stole my cd book out of my car 6 months ago :D
[11:28] <chx> EvilIdler: uname -a says Linux catv-5062a336 2.6.15-22-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun May 7 17:27:47 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux and I have installed this with apt
[11:28] <EvilIdler> I've managed to rebuild a friend's MP3 collection, thanks to us both collecting the same sort of stuff
[11:28] <DarkED> EvilIdler, now i just use my laptop and run it through my car stereo, its better than carrying around cd's
[11:29] <EvilIdler> chx: Is it a dual-core? SMP might not be the best kernel if it's not.
[11:29] <DarkED> EvilIdler, how bad will the quality loss be if i convert a 64kb/s wma to a 128kb/s mp3?
[11:29] <EvilIdler> DarkED: I've got mainly MP3, Ogg and FLAC myself. Future-proof :)
[11:29] <EvilIdler> DarkED: You can't take 64kbps from nowhere ;)
[11:29] <chx> EvilIdler: ah
[11:29] <DarkED> EvilIdler, ogg is a losless format isnt it?
[11:30] <EvilIdler> DarkED: First, 64kbps WMA is pretty low bitrate.
[11:30] <EvilIdler> DarkED: Nope.
[11:30] <DarkED> EvilIdler, 64kb/s wma is cd-quality
[11:30] <EvilIdler> FLAC, APE, SHN are lossless compression
[11:30] <chx> I am not sure, as said it's apt's choosing :) I have linux-image-2.6.15-22-k7
[11:30] <EvilIdler> DarkED: That's what they say..but it's not what my ears hear ;)
[11:30] <DarkED> EvilIdler, wma's get better quality than mp3 per compression ratio
[11:30] <themoddingden> anyone ?
[11:30] <EvilIdler> And I can promise you that it'll be degraded from recompressing from one lossy to another ;(
[11:31] <themoddingden> realtek and sis 191 nic issue?
[11:31] <DarkED> EvilIdler, can most computer music players play FLAC?
[11:31] <EvilIdler> DarkED: 128kbps is not CD quality, either.
[11:31] <themoddingden> lol
[11:31] <EvilIdler> DarkED: Foobar in Windows, just about anything in Linux etc., and iAudio portable players
[11:31] <chx> yes most computer music players do FLAC
[11:32] <themoddingden> l8r
[11:32] <DarkED> EvilIdler, so winamp wont play FLAC?
[11:32] <EvilIdler> DarkED: It probably will, but Winamp is an incredible resource hog when compared to Foobar
[11:32] <nixternal> winamp plays everything
[11:32] <DarkED> EvilIdler, foobar
[11:32] <nixternal> and if it doesn't...there is a plugin for it somewhere
[11:33] <DarkED> ok
[11:33] <DarkED> yeah see the problem i would be faced with
[11:33] <DarkED> everytime i wanted to burn a music cd or burn an mp3 disc
[11:33] <DarkED> i would have to convert it again
[11:33] <DaSkreech> DarkED: Winamp plays anything
[11:34] <EvilIdler> 64kbps *any* lossy format is good enough for voice, but my ears just can't take it
[11:34] <DarkED> EvilIdler, ok, one last question, do you know if k3b will burn music from a FLAC?
[11:35] <DaSkreech> DarkED: Yup it should
[11:35] <DarkED> DaSkreech, im sold :D
[11:35] <DaSkreech> DarkED: http://k3b.plainblack.com/requirements
[11:35] <DaSkreech> FLAC is right ther
[11:35] <DarkED> yep
[11:35] <EvilIdler> K3B is all-powerful
[11:35] <DarkED> hmm ill research this
[11:36] <DarkED> any mass mp3>flac converters?
[11:36] <EvilIdler> Err..converting mp3 to FLAC is pretty pointless, too ;)
[11:36] <DaSkreech> lol
[11:36] <DaSkreech> mp3->FLAC
[11:36] <DaSkreech> That's priceless
[11:36] <EvilIdler> You can't get lost data from nowhere
[11:37] <EvilIdler> MP3, WMA and Ogg are lossy formats. Their highest quality settings still drop some data. Two turns through any combination of them will start introducing artifacts.
[11:37] <DarkED> EvilIdler, yeah i know, but i have some 320kb/s mp3's which take up lots of space and would be good flacs
[11:37] <nixternal> there is a channel for ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, and edubuntu...but none for nubuntu...how come?? nubie is a good one
[11:37] <EvilIdler> DarkED: What's the point? You can burn directly from MP3 if you need to make CDs for the car
[11:38] <DarkED> EvilIdler, yeah
[11:38] <DarkED> EvilIdler, but i want to be free
[11:38] <paulvolk> I have a problem with Adept
[11:38] <DarkED> i gotta run to the sto'
[11:38] <paulvolk> it won't update anymore
[11:38] <DarkED> ill brb
[11:38] <EvilIdler> Personally, I'd prefer a regular portable player hooked up to a car-stereo. There are stereos that take inputs, and devices to get around it if not
[11:39] <DaSkreech> DarkED: .ogg :)
[11:39] <paulvolk> It claims there are no updates but I know that there are.
[11:39] <DarkED> DaSkreech, yeah
[11:39] <paulvolk> I don't get why it is not working
[11:39] <EvilIdler> I play my oggs in a Nintendo DS while on the move :)
[11:40] <andreasc89> how do I mount a pcmcia drive?
[11:40] <andreasc89> sudo mount and then?
[11:41] <EvilIdler> andreasc89: dmesg should be able to tell you what device it's on, if it's detected
[11:41] <nixternal> dmesg
[11:41] <nixternal> grrr
[11:41] <slow-motion> n8
[11:41] <andreasc89> http://images.google.se/images?q=322rc2&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
[11:42] <andreasc89> oh, sry
[11:42] <andreasc89> [4295841.690000]   [<e030846b>]  pcmcia_device_probe+0x6b/0x120 [pcmcia] 
[11:42] <andreasc89> what does that mean?
[11:42] <nixternal> it means it sees it
[11:42] <EvilIdler> nixternal: Invest in a direct brainlink
[11:42] <andreasc89> ok, and how do I mount it?
[11:42] <nixternal> look for somethign along the line of /dev/....
[11:42] <EvilIdler> Beyond that, I can't tell what device it is
[11:43] <nixternal> hey EvilIdler...can you get one of those direct brainlinks on ebay?
[11:43] <nixternal> ;D
[11:43] <andreasc89> [4295980.861000]  pccard: card ejected from slot 0
[11:43] <nixternal> it sees it
[11:43] <andreasc89> yeah
[11:43] <nixternal> what kind of card is it?
[11:43] <andreasc89> a CF
[11:43] <andreasc89> in a adapter
[11:43] <EvilIdler> nixternal: DIY only, I'm afraid. Dunno how well it works with a human brain, though
[11:43] <nixternal> haha
[11:43] <andreasc89> just unmounted it
[11:43] <andreasc89> and then put it in again
[11:43] <EvilIdler> andreasc89: It'll be a SCSI-like device, then. Try mounting as /dev/sda1
[11:43] <andreasc89> and now it's not on the desktop :S
[11:44] <nixternal> lol
[11:44] <DaSkreech> Is there an Xnest for Kubuntu?
[11:44] <nixternal> i love when it works like that
[11:44] <nixternal> everyone of my pen drives acts like that
[11:44] <andreasc89> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:44] <andreasc89> how do I specify the file system=
[11:44] <nixternal> have you formated it?
[11:45] <nixternal> is it fat32, ntfs, ext2, ext3, reiser
[11:45] <nixternal> vfat
[11:45] <nixternal> raw
[11:45] <EvilIdler> andreasc89: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mountpoint -t fat32, for example
[11:45] <nixternal> i can keep goin'
[11:45] <andreasc89> thx
[11:45] <nixternal> that is if it is fat32
[11:46] <nixternal> speaking of htat...if you mount it under a differnt iso or fat...and write to it...can it hurt the drive or just the file?
[11:46] <nixternal> when i mean drive...the allocation table..not physical
[11:46] <EvilIdler> It won't mount if there's no recognised filesystem
[11:47] <nixternal> for instance...we used to mount old tape drives....and we had a tech mount it wrong...file system type....and wrote to it...we couldn't get anything to recognize th disk afterwards
[11:47] <nixternal> as a matter of fact...the moron that did that is im'n me right now
[11:47] <nixternal> LOL
[11:47] <EvilIdler> nixternal: How did he manage that?
[11:48] <nixternal> he force it some how...i can't remember...it has been...hell 8 years or more
[11:48] <DaSkreech> Riddell: Is there a planned Xnest for Kubuntu?
[11:48] <Riddell> ?
[11:48] <Riddell> sudo apt-get install xnest
[11:48] <EvilIdler> I think there's protection against it now, for the most part, but tape drives aren't usually mounted
[11:49] <nixternal> well...this was an old sony...and i....i remember....in order for it to get picked up with the sunstore information system....i remember now
[11:49] <nixternal> he set up to do a mount his own way...that is what killed it
[11:50] <EvilIdler> Ouch. How expensive was the data? :)
[11:50] <nixternal> he screwed up everything...i remember now...omg that was a bad day
[11:50] <nixternal> well....the data store was for a 100,000+ square foot data center....owned by what we refer to as gayT&T
[11:50] <EvilIdler> That's the 'nix way; always more than one way to mess something up
[11:51] <nixternal> haha right
[11:51] <nixternal> he was paranoid that he was gonna get fired
[11:51] <EvilIdler> Hehe
[11:51] <nixternal> we did end up getting fired
[11:52] <nixternal> we ran 50 game servers over oc192
[11:52] <EvilIdler> Owie
[11:52] <nixternal> it took them 1 year to locate um
[11:52] <nixternal> we had them hidden in the false floor
[11:52] <nixternal> there were people in australia playing on a chicago based server with 40 and 50 pings
[11:52] <nixternal> oh but when they found them...they came down on us hard
[11:53] <nixternal> they had crazy online info about us....
[11:53] <EvilIdler> Serves you right, subversive hacker types :P
[11:53] <nixternal> lol
[11:53] <DaSkreech> So Kubuntu won't be shipping with a XNest option in teh menus? :-(
[11:53] <DarkED> is there any way to make easytag read wma's?
[11:53] <DaSkreech> Man that's useful
[11:53] <nixternal> it was one server that got us popped off
[11:53] <nixternal> a freakin' .... ummm....everquest on a win2k server
[11:53] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: dunno if easytag is compiled with support for wmas
[11:53] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: why not just use amarok?
[11:53] <nixternal> go figure...they hax0red the win2k server to bust us...the nix boxes were strong
[11:54] <EvilIdler> Oh, so that's where the free server went..
[11:54] <DaSkreech> robotgeek: Wrong Da :)
[11:54] <nixternal> lol
[11:54] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: sorry
[11:54] <zvi> hey guys
[11:54] <robotgeek> DarkED: why not just use amarok?
[11:54] <nixternal> omg
[11:54] <nixternal> i am looking at the xnest wiki
[11:54] <DarkED> robotgeek, uh easytag takes much less time
[11:54] <zvi> does somebody know how to "refresh" clockapplet with dcop?
[11:54] <nixternal> it reminds me to much of solaris back in the early 90's
[11:55] <zvi> I need it for shell script
[11:55] <DaSkreech> DarkED: You can do multiple edits at a time in Amarok
[11:55] <nixternal> the clock is eerie
[11:55] <DaSkreech> Unless you are scripting this
[11:55] <zvi> to automate some post adjustments
[11:55] <wasp_ems> hello..i have a problem with kopete..whenever i try to configure it..by clicking on configuration it closes and i get an error in konqueror..also if i try to run my webcam then it crashes and the whole system freezes..any ideas?
[11:55] <DarkED> DaSkreech, yeah but easytag will automatically arrange filenames/tracktags for you :D
[11:55] <DaSkreech> DarkED: again? What?
[11:56] <DaSkreech>  http://k3b.plainblack.com/requirements
[11:56] <DaSkreech> Kool :-)
[11:56] <DaSkreech> Ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper Drake" Development Branch \n \l
[11:57] <zvi> nixternal: the clock is what? :)
[11:57] <nixternal> scarry looking
[11:57] <nixternal> that old analog clock
[11:59] <zvi> nixternal: ok
[11:59] <zvi> any ides about dcop signals?
[11:59] <zvi> ideas?
[11:59] <nixternal> bbiab
[11:59] <nixternal> l8r