[12:03] nixternal: lol === chriswk [n=c@cD9089959.inet.catch.no] has joined #kubuntu [12:03] i wonder if my puter is slowin' down now cuz i am running 6 desktops [12:03] god i love that feature [12:05] n8 === mpathy [n=ubuntu@stgt-d9beb6a6.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #kubuntu ["Verlassend"] === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu === dennis- [n=dennis@cipherpunk.org] has joined #kubuntu === mah [n=marcel@p548563B4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === wasp_ems [n=waspius@82-46-12-196.cable.ubr07.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === tom_ [n=tom@ip-207.net-81-220-0.versailles.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #kubuntu === GilaMnstr [n=ccambly@199.246.40.54] has joined #kubuntu === Rosex [n=rosen@h36n2fls303o1101.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === jmg [n=jmg@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #kubuntu === Al-Daja [n=Reborn@217.129.195.23] has joined #kubuntu === arrinmurr [n=arrinmur@MDCCCXL.tun.saunalahti.fi] has joined #kubuntu === mirshafie [n=jin@213.114.27.252] has joined #kubuntu === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@69.60.114.100] has joined #kubuntu === zambba [i=zambba@skeezu.net] has joined #kubuntu === L33TrDaNu [n=zdennis@71-10-138-221.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === Samuli^ [n=samuli@dasee2980.ulapland.fi] has joined #kubuntu === paran [n=paran@cl-56.sto-01.se.sixxs.net] has joined #kubuntu === derekS [n=derekS@unaffiliated/dereks] has joined #kubuntu === kozz [i=kozz@h203n1fls31o834.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === Tweakin [n=tweakin@CPE-65-29-8-249.mn.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Jozo [i=jozo@nelli.ikonia.fi] has joined #kubuntu === trip [i=trip@sanity.surrendered.net] has joined #kubuntu === Ilta [n=itommola@pk1-a-7-0.lnet.lut.fi] has joined #kubuntu === tom___ [n=tom@ip-207.net-81-220-0.versailles.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #kubuntu === poimen [n=poimen@206.248.107.159] has joined #kubuntu === j0n0 [n=stefano@cisp09.cisp.unipi.it] has joined #kubuntu === EvilIdler [n=hedyn@216-140-90.0101.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #kubuntu === _richard [n=richard@metapraxis-14.dsl.easynet.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === EvilIdler [n=hedyn@216-140-90.0101.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #kubuntu === arrinmurr- [n=arrinmur@MDCCCXL.tun.saunalahti.fi] has joined #kubuntu === PascalFR_ [n=PascalFr@pcpc.vmfacility.fr] has joined #kubuntu === GilaMnstr [n=ccambly@199.246.40.54] has joined #kubuntu [12:07] anyone use ktorrent? [12:07] Net split ... Net merge :) [12:07] Yeah, and it's pretty bad === chriswk [n=c@cD9089959.inet.catch.no] has joined #kubuntu [12:08] any better ideas? [12:08] It does Bad Weird Strange (c) things to my Torrents [12:08] KTorrent is atrocious. Couldn't recognise existing files for me, has no options for speed limiting [12:08] azureus [12:08] does anyone use dc++? [12:09] Azureus for advanced needs, multifile on a single limit. BitTornado for a file at a time. === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@69.60.114.100] has joined #kubuntu === Chris_Tucker [n=ChrisTuc@stjhnf01-23-142163031220.nf.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [12:09] Qtorrent is also... workable [12:09] Why does Ktorrent ship by default then? [12:10] I can't get a mount point to mount automaticaly at startup, I removed 'noauto' from the options in fstab but it won't mount...any ideas? [12:10] I mean it will mount but not automaticaly at boot time [12:10] Because it fits in the KDE filosophy [12:10] stevekl: Filesystem? Tried the auto flag? [12:10] so any good torrent that has no problems? [12:10] Azeurus [12:10] EvilIdler: it's ext3...I didn't know there was an 'auto' flag [12:10] heh [12:10] wasp_ems: Azureus, BitTornado [12:11] stevekl: It shouldn't be needed, though, not for a harddrive === b4gi [n=b4gi@szkoll.pte.hu] has joined #kubuntu [12:11] ok..thanx..i know dc++ is really good but i do not seem to find anywhere how to set it up whereas in windows i can easily do it [12:11] stevekl: This is my fatab entry for the root partition: /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [12:12] EvilIdler: well it's not a hard drive per se, it's a hard drive in an external enclosure [12:12] it's /dev/sdasomething [12:12] does that make a difference? [12:12] wasp_ems: In my opinion, none of the DC clients in Linux are good. I've been meaning to port the UI of DC++ to wx myself at some point..but so many programming projects ;) [12:12] stevekl: Then it's a harddrive. USB/FW devices are considered the same as internal ones on the systems where I have them === xtacocorex is away: dinner === tom___ [n=tom@ip-207.net-81-220-0.versailles.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #kubuntu [12:13] i have a quick question about kubutnu. Is it a stock KDE or is it modified at all with twaeks for the ubuntu base or anything? [12:13] EvilIdler: hm ok [12:13] I'm still not sure why it won't mount [12:13] stevekl: What's the fstab entry? [12:13] /dev/sda1 /home/stevekl/bigmedia ext3 defaults,auto 0 0 [12:14] I just added auto [12:14] stevekl: Seems alright to me..is it USB or firewire? === exhale [n=exhale@c80-216-8-42.cm-upc.chello.se] has joined #kubuntu === Bilford [n=bilford@208-45-99-126.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #Kubuntu [12:14] stevekl: Is the entry AFTER mounting /home? [12:14] is anyone here using logitech mx518? [12:14] It's USB [12:15] stevekl: You also have no guarantee that it actually gets mounted after /home, I think.. [12:15] EvilIdler: it is after /home yeah [12:15] ohhhhhhhhh [12:15] Yeah that might be the problem [12:15] stevekl: fstab mounts all devices in parallel, if I remember correctly [12:15] nested mount points = confusion [12:15] stevekl: I know a fix, though [12:15] You just need to change the number [12:16] stevekl: Just make a "mountusb" script or something, then link it into /etc/rc2.d/ as S99something [12:16] 0 1 instead of 0 0? [12:16] yeah [12:16] Oh yeah [12:16] 0 3 [12:16] I forgot all about that pass and dump system [12:16] (if you have other stuff on the other ones) === rk [n=roman@p54A27DA6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:17] so I should change /dev/sda1 to 0-1? [12:17] The documentation for all those flags seems to be a bit everywhere :) === patrick_ [n=patrick@66-168-138-138.dhcp.nplt.ne.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:17] stevekl: 0 3 [12:17] i am having a problem..at some points everything starts to freeze..if i logout and in again it is ok.it is the quivalent of explorer getting stuck in windows..any help? === DarkED [n=darked@68-187-219-210.dhcp.chtn.wv.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:17] why 0 3? === pradeepto is now known as pradeepto|zzzz [12:17] stevekl: look in fstab root is probably on 0 1 any other partitions probably 0 2 so you want 0 3 to guarantee its last [12:17] /home is 0 0 [12:18] my /home is 0 2 [12:18] The last flag is order, so 3 should be right [12:18] The first number is when to check it with fsck right? [12:18] I wonder if KDE has a gui for this [12:19] ahmeni, Thanks for your help the other day with adept. I had a friend who edited my sources.list and now it works like a charm. Plus, I downloaded synaptic and will give it a try. [12:19] stevekl: qtparted, probably [12:19] patrick_: no problem :) [12:19] is anyone using a logitech mx mouse with ubuntu? [12:19] EvilIdler: ok thanks for all the help [12:20] Just have to tweak the theme manager. I wasn't able to install any themes today. Maybe I missed a step. Oh well. [12:20] I think changing that one flag will do it [12:20] Does anyone know if a Geforce 2 MX will be enough for XGL? [12:20] Yes, next reboot should do the right thing === GeoKM [n=keith@ppp46-17.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:20] kOpter: Someone else on the channel earlier had something older than that working nice and fast [12:21] stevekl: You may have to run mount -a from /etc/rc.local or something if the usb takes too long to settle on bootup === rjb [n=rob@chello084010100229.chello.pl] has joined #kubuntu [12:21] Hmm.. might be worth buying a second hand Geforce (PCI) then.. === jak08 [n=Shane@cras80p118.navix.net] has joined #kubuntu === mardi [n=cheeseca@d14-69-45-188.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:21] hello [12:22] can someone tell me what to do..everything just starts to freeze..what the fuck is wrong. [12:22] Caus my ubuntu Barebone will only take PCI :X [12:22] wasp_ems: you'll need to be more specific [12:22] Q: WTF is broken with amarok & mp3 in dapper?? [12:22] I have a Q. does kubuntu have kppp pre installed on it? [12:22] no [12:22] well either konqueror crashes either adept crashes either anything i have opened crashes and then it moves from one thing to the other until it is all stuck [12:23] wasp_ems: Language [12:23] jak08: It's installed here on my default installation [12:23] jak08 it's not on my default installation === zblach [n=zblach@toronto-HSE-ppp4063702.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [12:23] DaSkreech: what do u mean/ [12:23] In other words, 'it depends' :P [12:23] ok thank you [12:23] Running Dapper Drake. [12:24] Breezy here [12:24] if KWin crashes, do you have to reboot [12:24] Aha :) [12:24] Removed it now [12:24] Bilford: Reboot?! [12:24] yes === jak08 [n=Shane@cras80p118.navix.net] has left #kubuntu [] [12:24] I don't see why you'd need that, unless you replace hardware or a kernel [12:24] when it crashed, my taskbar disappeared, and windows lost their normal functionality [12:25] I ran kwin again from terminal, but windows were still messed up [12:25] Broken hardware? [12:25] also, how do you refresh the Start menu after installing new programs. sometimes they dont show up unless you reboot [12:26] Is there a difference between 'chmod -R xxx /whatever/*' and 'chmod xxx /whatever/*' [12:27] stevkl, -R is recursive === did [n=did@cou30-1-82-242-65-162.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:27] Just log out and back in, ctrl-alt-backspace is the emergency key-combination [12:28] ok ty [12:28] Bilford: Log out and back in, not reboot :) [12:28] ok lemme ask again: is anyone able to play an mp3 with amarok on dapper?? [12:28] ok good === joscha [n=joscha@p54A92679.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:29] There's never any need for reboots when it's a plain software problem [12:29] Only kernel issues and hardware === NotUbuntu_ [n=notubunt@cpu1112.adsl.bellglobal.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:29] it's easy to spot a former Windows user, I guess [12:29] I only switched about 2 weeks ago [12:29] hi, some one help with how i best testing my vid card with kubuntu? [12:29] Bilford: Indeed :) [12:30] i get 3000s with glxgears [12:30] Evilidler: I have had unexplainable lockups when I have updated all of xorg and not rebooted (so I do now) [12:30] I think the main thing new people to Linux need to learn is: basically everything is configurable. if you dont like something, dont cry and give up. you can configure it === zblach [n=zblach@toronto-HSE-ppp4063702.sympatico.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === NotUbuntu_ is now known as NotWired [12:31] h3sp4wn: If you remove the 'taint' from memory (rmmod nvidia), and reload, there shouldn't be any need to [12:31] and "you don"t need to reboot twice a week" [12:32] all in all "Linux is not Windows" :D === zblach [n=zblach@toronto-HSE-ppp4063702.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [12:32] tuxcart runs kinda dodgy tho, and crashed once [12:33] Tainted modules rarely remove cleanly in my experience [12:33] apart from ath_hal [12:33] Is there an easy way to 'mirror' my KDE preferences between two computers (same version of KDE)? Can I just copy ~/.kde/ or is there more to it than that? [12:33] rjb: Yeah, no problem [12:33] Well, I only use one tainted module, nvidia, and it plays nice here. [12:33] YMMV etc. :) === PascalFR_ [n=PascalFr@pcpc.vmfacility.fr] has joined #kubuntu === SlimG [n=robert@84.205.58.248] has joined #kubuntu === raw-bean [n=robin@220.225.32.98] has joined #kubuntu [12:36] i've installed the xorg-driver-fglrx for my asus raedon 9600xt [12:37] hey, doesn't anyone here use amarok to play mp3's? [12:37] rjb: Yeah, no problem [12:37] nope, on dapper & amd64 it doesn't work [12:37] Fresh dapper install? [12:37] you need the gstreamer mp3 package thingie [12:38] dist-upgrade from breezy [12:38] mardi: According to the release note of xorg 7 Upto 9600XT is supported by the 'radeon' driver now [12:38] initNG.... sudo ng-update add daemon/??? [12:39] h3sp4wn: sweet, i'm wondering how i ensure it's working the best it can now though [12:39] stevekl, there seems to be no gstreamer-plugin for dapper's amarok [12:39] h3sp4wn: the graphics and gui seems 'loagy' [12:40] fglrx is poor (I know I use it but on a 9800pro) [12:40] rjb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats === did [n=did@cou30-1-82-242-65-162.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:40] kOpter i know that [12:40] rjb: Then what's the problem? [12:40] i had it working fine in breezy [12:41] thye problem is it doesn't work, plain & simple [12:41] Did you read the page? === zblach [n=zblach@toronto-HSE-ppp4063702.sympatico.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:41] And the amarok notes? === did [n=did@cou30-1-82-242-65-162.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === macd [n=bashscri@adsl-156-71-225.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:41] sure [12:41] like: Amarok needs libxine-extracordecs for mp3 support? [12:41] sure, & i got them === kubk [n=kubk@158.75.204.24] has joined #kubuntu [12:41] sudo ng-update add daemon/gdm <-- is that good for kubuntu using initNG? [12:42] Ok, so what is not working? [12:42] mp3 playback in amarok [12:42] Selected the Xine engine in the config panel? [12:42] sudo ng-update add daemon/kdm <-- or that [12:42] refused to load [12:42] & reverted to the arts engine === _mike_ [n=mike@220.157.65.127] has joined #kubuntu [12:43] Selected the Xine engine in the config panel? [12:43] see above [12:43] You can't load the Xine engine? [12:43] the xine engine refuses to load [12:43] Thats weird [12:43] shit if it weren't i wouldn't be asking here :P [12:44] would i do better to purge all the old gstreamer-0.8 packages, say? [12:44] is cpu frequency scaling really needed in initNG for an athlon xp? === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu [12:45] Xine has nothing to do with gestreamer [12:45] so i thought [12:45] but wtf do i know [12:46] Tried reinstalling the Xine libs? [12:46] ok...initNG done...wish me luck as i reboot [12:46] muhahaha [12:47] no, but tried an upgrade to the beta amarok [12:47] didn't work either === chavo [n=chavo@68.235.250.234] has joined #kubuntu [12:47] the 1.4 announced on kubuntu's front page [12:48] now i do have the xine engine enabled === tom_ [n=tom@ip-207.net-81-220-0.versailles.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #kubuntu === mikonian [n=mike@S01060010dca58c20.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === bubblenut [n=bubblenu@bubblenut.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu === PascalFR__ [n=PascalFr@pcpc.vmfacility.fr] has joined #kubuntu [12:48] arts engine not available anymore though === EvilIdler [n=hedyn@216-140-90.0101.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #kubuntu === mirshafie| [n=jin@c-fc1b72d5.03-59-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [12:49] but mp3's aren't played anyway [12:49] weird stuff.. I'm afraid I can't help you there [12:49] Hi, I've just upgraded to dapper and my wireless card (eth1) is no longer visible [12:49] heh it just rescanned my collection & all mp3's vanished from it === arrinmurr- [n=arrinmur@MDCCCXL.tun.saunalahti.fi] has joined #kubuntu [12:49] when I run sudo ifup eth1=home I get the following error [12:50] seems not to recognize the format at all [12:50] Is your DB running? [12:50] what DB? [12:50] Amarok Database [12:50] amarok uses sqlite afaik [12:51] http://pastebin.com/725612 [12:51] Yeah, but it doesn't like old databases [12:51] Anyone got any areas on where I should start looking? [12:51] bubblenut: Try eth2? [12:51] so what, on a rescan it would rebuild it, right? [12:51] bubblenut: Or perhaps it's athX === nixternal [n=enforcer@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:51] well.... [12:51] initNG sure does boot fast...but my net settings are borked [12:51] rjb: Deleting it will === kozz_ [i=kozz@h203n1fls31o834.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === iqon [n=iqon@ip67-153-191-68.z191-153-67.customer.algx.net] has left #kubuntu [] === dereks_ [n=derekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:52] bye all. good night and pleasent dreams. [12:52] Evil|dler, these don't work either, how can I find out which I should be using? [12:52] bingo [12:52] it was a DB issue [12:52] Is it just a matter of trial and error? [12:52] nixternal: I've got sysvinit booting fast here. How slow was the old one for you? [12:53] or collection issue [12:53] very slow [12:53] it boots whicked fast now...but my net settings are hosed [12:53] i can't activate eth0 [12:53] no ifconfig [12:53] when i load a file from the Files tab instead of the collection, it works [12:53] bubblenut: I have a server with two NICs, and upon install, I had eth0 for the gigabit and eth1 for the other. Then suddenly it was eth1 and eth2, and eth0 didn't exist ever again. [12:53] stupid wiki said to remove ifupdown-debain and use NetworkSettings [12:53] kOpter: thx for the hint :) [12:53] why you need to boot fast? [12:54] I boot in seconds, but it's not something I need very often. [12:55] rjb your collection is broken.. remove it === spire [n=spire@kbhn-vbrg-sr0-vl208-012.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:55] hmm, is there some command I can run to display what network devices my machine thinks are available? === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@69.60.114.100] has joined #kubuntu [12:56] It seems that the konqueror "Go" menu is disabled. How do I find the autostart pseudo folder then? -I need to make some apps start automatically upon login === r1ch1e [n=enforcer@71.194.189.213] has joined #kubuntu [12:56] whoa...this things boots way to fast and reboots even faster [12:57] oh now its really borked [12:57] borked? [12:57] screwed up big time === bubblenut [n=bubblenu@bubblenut.plus.com] has left #kubuntu [] [12:57] broken :) [12:57] lol [12:57] oh === r1ch1e is now known as nixternal`v2 [12:57] my loard === Ilta_ [n=itommola@pk1-a-7-0.lnet.lut.fi] has joined #kubuntu [12:58] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borked [12:58] Internet slang, corruption of broken; Completely and utterly broken. c.f. fubar [12:59] fubar i understand! :-) [12:59] Internet slang, corruption of broken; Completely and utterly broken. c.f. fubar [12:59] exactly how i meant it ;D [12:59] Wikipedia to the rescue [12:59] haha === eosyn [i=eo@6532101hfc66.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:00] Vista specs are out. It's official: NVidia and Ati are going to make a fortune. [01:01] I should try Xgl one of these days.. [01:01] 40GB harddrive as a requirement for the OS. Whee. [01:02] ouch [01:02] i am switching back to the slow, but guaranteed to work init [01:02] holy cow that was bad [01:02] Also 1GB memory minimum. I can understand that for games and servers, but not a desktop OS [01:02] and i'vd got kubuntu running very well from a 6GB partition [01:03] Yeah, I retired my ancient 8GB IBM HD a few months ago, only because it was starting to smell [01:03] lol [01:03] It had started to smell like a garage === zambba [i=zambba@skeezu.net] has joined #Kubuntu === freddirkse [n=fredd@fwnat.peo.oicgroup.net] has joined #kubuntu === freddirkse [n=fredd@fwnat.peo.oicgroup.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Terminus [n=justin@210.213.128.163] has joined #kubuntu === bubblenut [n=bubblenu@bubblenut.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:05] how strange, I did another reboot and it's all fine now [01:05] 40 gb ? wtf [01:05] why do you need 40 gb === Samuli^ [n=samuli@dasee2980.ulapland.fi] has joined #kubuntu [01:05] bloatware [01:05] 40GB drive with 15GB free space. That implies Vista eats 25GB [01:05] wow [01:05] I just can't believe an OS that comes with next to NO useful applications can eat that much drivespace [01:05] go freenode go === chriswk [n=c@cD9089959.inet.catch.no] has joined #kubuntu [01:06] that is 2 reboots now [01:06] No devkit, no textprocessing beyond notepad and write === nixternal`afk [n=richie@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:06] thats about 18,000 floppies === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #kubuntu [01:07] Windows 3.11 came on about 10 floppies [01:07] Several of them being optional :) === L33TrDaNu [n=zdennis@71-10-138-221.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:07] lol [01:07] that didn't make it any better [01:07] Less worse, perhaps === nixternal`afk is now known as nixternal`v2 [01:08] when is the other one gonna time out already [01:08] note to self....damn...keyboard is broke...can't leave a note to self....ctrl+alt+del [01:09] I use irc.debian.org and get connected to a random author-named server. IRC roulette :) === poimen [n=poimen@206.248.107.159] has joined #kubuntu === Kyral [n=Kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #kubuntu [01:09] well...chalk it down for my first initNG experience as...NOT GOOD [01:09] i will mess with it later...when i have nothing else better to do [01:10] it did boot...and it booted fast...but net was gone and then the 2nd boot...everything was huge === laurent_ [n=laurent@mon75-10-82-239-109-117.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === zambba [i=zambba@skeezu.net] has joined #kubuntu === _richard [n=richard@metapraxis-14.dsl.easynet.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === j0n0 [n=stefano@cisp09.cisp.unipi.it] has joined #kubuntu === Rosex [n=rosen@h36n2fls303o1101.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === jmg [n=jmg@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #kubuntu === Al-Daja [n=Reborn@217.129.195.23] has joined #kubuntu === paran [n=paran@cl-56.sto-01.se.sixxs.net] has joined #kubuntu === kozz [i=kozz@h203n1fls31o834.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === Tweakin [n=tweakin@CPE-65-29-8-249.mn.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Jozo [i=jozo@nelli.ikonia.fi] has joined #kubuntu === trip [i=trip@sanity.surrendered.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:10] im next [01:10] I tried InitNG once. Packages got messed up, and I had nothing to boot my system. [01:11] i can feel it [01:11] well..i added it to my grub menu...so i was safe === chriswk [n=c@cD9089959.inet.catch.no] has joined #kubuntu [01:11] I had no init program afterwards. Had to set bash as my init. [01:11] oooh [01:11] that sux [01:12] Thank goodness for componentised OSes :) [01:12] haha ya [01:12] Take a working shell here, a working, static mount command+editor there, fix the problems === jmg [n=jmg@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #kubuntu [01:12] yes...that is lovely...cuz that is what just fixed my entire issue === Tweakin [n=tweakin@CPE-65-29-8-249.mn.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:13] when it booted the 2nd time....everything was so huge, that only the top left portion of the screen normally was visible...and you couldn't get to anywhere else [01:13] booted into term...and wallah...it's fixed === nixternal`v2 is now known as nixternal === xwolf-- [n=ubuntu@201.32.250.180] has joined #kubuntu [01:16] I'm having a problem with fuse now [01:16] Microsoft's reign is coming to a swift end [01:16] If I try to mount a drive with sshfs I get the following error [01:17] people are going to switch to Kubuntu [01:17] fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory [01:17] i'm having a problem here... cant connect to www.names.something, but can do with their IPs... seems to be a dns problem on breezy livecd, how do i fix that [01:17] Anyone got any ideas about this? I've tried re-installing libfuse2 and sshfs [01:17] w00t...gparted has a livecd now...better than partition magic...oh that so rox [01:17] i already did 'sudo route add default gw 192.168.254.254' and can reach the router... but cant connect [01:18] bubblenut: do you not use shfs ? did you have to build it initially using module assistant ? [01:21] http://static.flickr.com/51/147862379_89d4dce2ec.jpg?v=0 <-- damn you simon...looks like you guys are having way to much fun at debconf === nixternal [n=richie@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === DarkED_ [n=darked@68-187-219-210.dhcp.chtn.wv.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === smoosh [n=smoosh@host10-84.pool8256.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:31] hmm === c0llin [n=collin@frfd-02-0147.dsl.iowatelecom.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:33] is there a way to disable Bell in Konsole? [01:34] good question...cuz i want to do the same thing now that you said something [01:34] yup === mikonian [n=mike@S01060010dca58c20.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:34] c0llin: settings - signal [01:34] right click in konsole > settings > bell > none [01:35] is there a way to keep it off so it doesnt start up next time? === vega-_ [i=mikko@lotus.puolikuu.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:37] http://www.turnto10.com/news/9237767/detail.html <-- think you have a problem [01:37] dude left behind 70,000 beer cans === wasp_ems [n=waspius@82-46-12-196.cable.ubr07.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [01:38] i downloaded quake 4 how do i install it? [01:39] lol nixternal [01:39] beeeeeeeeer === sheldonc [n=sheldon@208-98-198-49.cable.dynamic.sunwave.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:39] hahah [01:39] that is nuts [01:39] hey, he said he now has a job and no longer drinks [01:40] ya...and he no longer has a liver [01:40] lol [01:40] question is, would you clean up those cans for the $800 recycle fee [01:41] probably [01:41] that is another kubuntu machine ;D [01:41] must of taken a bunch of trips [01:41] lol [01:41] konqueror crashed and i got an error of signal 6..backtrace does not work as it says the debugger was not found..any ideas? [01:42] signal 6 ey. [01:42] hmmm [01:42] read the post on ubuntu forums about building packages with debug symbols [01:42] other times i get signal 11 [01:42] signal 11 i have seen b4 [01:42] 6 is new to me [01:42] and why is debugger gdb not found? [01:43] cuz gdb isnt' installed [01:43] ok [01:43] so how do i install it..so we can see why i am getting these signals [01:43] have you tried to reinstall it through synaptic or adept? === sheldonc [n=sheldon@208-98-198-49.cable.dynamic.sunwave.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:43] reinstall what? [01:43] sounds almost like some required files weren't installed along with it [01:44] konqueror [01:44] sudo apt-get install gdb? [01:44] i had the same issue on breezy...and a reinstall fixed it...i think i had some lib files get hung up and not install correctly [01:44] so should i remove and then re install konqueror? [01:45] you can always try it....at least install gdb to get more info on it [01:45] ok thanx === poimen [n=poimen@206.248.107.159] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:45] any ideas about installing quake? [01:45] oh wow...q4? [01:46] the demo [01:46] there are a ton of q1, q2, and q3 how-tos out there...but i dunno about q4 [01:46] i have the full game for windows though [01:46] in general how do u install a file or program? [01:46] http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4 [01:47] thanx [01:47] np [01:48] do Windows games run faster in Cedega than they do in Windows [01:49] what is cedega? wine type thing? [01:49] yes, for games [01:49] i doubt it then [01:49] runs pretty much every game there is [01:49] what is cedega? [01:50] WineX [01:50] ok [01:50] http://www.transgaming.com/products_linux.php [01:50] gotta be extra overhead there so i can't see anything running faster... maybe close on some though [01:50] but it costs money [01:51] people sell lots of slow software :-) [01:51] people sell lots of slow software :-) [01:51] LOL === SlimG [n=robert@84.205.58.248] has joined #kubuntu [01:52] Microsoft for one [01:52] that one does come to mind [01:52] i have never installed nor used Wine [01:52] i have in the early days... but it's been years now [01:52] the only thing i use windows for...autocad [01:52] Windows is extra overhead [01:52] that is it === Chris_Tucker [n=ChrisTuc@stjhnf01-23-142163031196.nf.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:53] i plan on trying it for my tax software next year [01:53] im not a coder... [01:53] well...i just use irs.gov..they have a spot where you can file online === SlimG [n=robert@84.205.58.248] has joined #kubuntu === Chris_Tucker [n=ChrisTuc@stjhnf01-23-142163031196.nf.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:54] i'm in canuckland [01:54] none of the commercial guys have linux versions [01:54] well [01:54] other than that, i can pretty much anything i want in linux [01:54] most of them have online versions [01:54] haha [01:54] I did mine online [01:54] TurboTax === Chris_Tucker [n=ChrisTuc@stjhnf01-23-142163031196.nf.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:54] my dad swears by turbotax [01:55] online? [01:55] yup [01:55] he loves it [01:55] he mustve gotten a refund === test [n=test@210-246-40-178.paradise.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [01:55] does it use java or straight webbrowser forms? [01:55] i have used turbo tax since about 98 === faraz [n=faraz@202.141.251.102] has joined #kubuntu [01:55] prior to them i used one by kiplingers === faraz is now known as frk2 [01:55] I think Ajax now. I dont know though [01:56] i filed my first online return in 1996 [01:56] i was in the military then [01:56] i do them on pc but still print and mail [01:56] especially if i owe them [01:56] haha ya [01:56] me too [01:56] why [01:56] bad enough if i i gotta pay, make them work for my $$$ [01:56] actually i haven't owed the irs anything... [01:56] lol [01:57] more work for you though [01:57] nah, i fill in online and print [01:57] just a little more than e-file === smoosh [n=smoosh@host10-84.pool8256.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [02:04] do u know how i can setup k3b so i can use files from my network? [02:04] ... === GeoKM [n=keith@bh02i525f01.au.ibm.com] has joined #kubuntu === macd [n=bashscri@adsl-156-71-225.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === steve [n=steve@216.233.46.147] has joined #kubuntu [02:12] Anybody know when about a pre-built WINE 0.9.13 will be available? === sorcre [n=sorcre@c-68-48-131-239.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:14] Hello, has anyone gotten 3D acceleration working on Dapper (with an Nvidia card)? [02:17] sorcre: Have you just dist-upgraded ? [02:17] h3sp4wn: I actually installed Ubuntu (installed kubundu desktop later) [02:18] h3sp4wn: Whenever I install the driver it screws up X for me [02:18] sorcre: Have you just done apt-get dist-upgrade or used synaptic or something similar ? [02:19] h3sp4wn: Yea, I've done that. === Chris_Tucker [n=ChrisTuc@stjhnf01-23-142163031196.nf.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === andred is now known as andre^off [02:19] sorcre: run uname -a (from a terminal) [02:20] Linux Wii 2.6.15-22-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun May 7 17:27:47 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux [02:21] how can i change my font color on the konsole? [02:21] sorcre: There is no reason why it shouldn't work with that kernel that I know of (2.6.15-23-k7 has no restricted modules yet) [02:21] i have made it transparent but i cannot see what it says [02:21] i cannot find where u change it from [02:21] h3sp4wn: I tried with different kernels as well... I have no idea why it's not working... I'm going to try again. Should I use apt? === Mattchewie [n=chewie@adsl-68-255-243-170.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:23] sorcre: Have you followed the nvidia wiki ? === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:23] h3sp4wn: Yes, I've tried both ways (apt and installing it from Nvidia's site) [02:24] sorcre: You are best off using apt (Unless you have a specific card that is not supported by the drivers in apt) === poimen [n=poimen@206.248.107.159] has joined #kubuntu === btsai_ [n=VRWarper@cpe-24-90-220-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:24] how can i install a binary? === italoivo [n=italoivo@200141137153.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === italoivo [n=italoivo@200141137153.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:25] i downloaded my graphc card driver [02:25] g3sp4wn: Alright, I'll try it. Thanks === _Ace_ [n=love@kr-lun-162-144-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #kubuntu === Ahmuck [n=Ahmuck@p122n22.ruraltel.net] has joined #kubuntu === maddoxeric [n=maddoxer@cpe-024-088-020-202.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:26] sorcre: Can you think of anything non standard about your setup (tv connected etc) [02:26] whats the command to see the version of kubuntu i'm running? [02:26] anyone want to help me? [02:27] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDefaultSettings - "desktop icons 32" is contradicting with "Icon size: 64" [02:27] mardi: cat /etc/lsb-release [02:28] oh sorry my mistake [02:28] h3sp4wn: sweet, thanks === Bilford [n=bilford@208-45-99-126.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #Kubuntu [02:31] Kwin crashed again [02:32] what are the most common things that cause that === SmrtJustin [n=SmrtJust@72.241.36.169] has joined #kubuntu === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-32-77.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu === _claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu === Heulsay [n=heul@52-214.tr.cgocable.ca] has joined #kubuntu === _jami [n=jami@a81-197-151-150.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu === Andruk [n=chatzill@c-24-8-211-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:44] if i install kubuntu alongside XP and Debian Sarge, will Grub be able to pick it all up? [02:44] Grub picks up Windows === larrywells [n=LarrySW@ip68-5-250-101.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:45] what aboot debian? [02:46] I dont know === AndrukTatum [n=chatzill@c-24-8-211-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:48] cool, thc [02:48] *thx === farous [n=farous@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu === nixternal is now known as nixternal`tv === humboldt [n=elias@63.130.182.17] has joined #kubuntu === jrfry [n=jrfry@82-33-61-210.cable.ubr06.stav.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === larrywells [n=LarrySW@ip68-5-250-101.oc.oc.cox.net] has left #kubuntu [] === Seantater [n=sean@cpe-069-132-052-158.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:02] plone does not work === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu === martalli [n=bryan@cm-ilsttn2408.madisontelco.com] has joined #kubuntu === saihttam_ [n=matthias@port-212-202-53-115.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu === Cleotis [n=Clovis_L@dsl-63-166-223-42.olp.net] has joined #kubuntu === Snake__ is now known as Snake[Away] === NotWired [n=notubunt@cpu1112.adsl.bellglobal.com] has joined #kubuntu === CheeseBurgerMan [n=bigk@24-247-185-68.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === humboldt [n=elias@63.130.182.17] has joined #kubuntu === shift_ [i=shift@water.shiftnetwork.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === brandon_ [n=brandon@216.167.241.193] has joined #kubuntu === uniq [n=frode@ubuntu/member/frode] has joined #kubuntu === Ahmuck [n=Ahmuck@p122n22.ruraltel.net] has joined #kubuntu === _human_blip_ [n=mike@220.157.65.127] has joined #kubuntu === wchogg [n=wchogg@eh-112-116-34.resnet.wisc.edu] has joined #kubuntu === BazziR [n=Bastian@p508045FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === humboldt [n=elias@63.130.182.17] has joined #kubuntu === murph2481 [n=murph248@c-67-190-164-242.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === shift [i=shift@water.shiftnetwork.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === kelly [n=kelly@209-112-222-205-cdsl-rb1.sol.acsalaska.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:46] is it normal to have 83 processes running? === narg [n=narg@dsl-63-173-190-115.tcq.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:48] could be, if your system is set up that way [03:49] k\ [03:49] do a ps aux if you think something is wrong [03:49] what is that? [03:49] wasp_ems: yep, i have 91 running (ps ax | wc) [03:50] i was just wondering if they are all needed..under windows i know the less you have the better it is [03:50] anyway i am going to bed..good night [03:51] wasp_ems: If you run ProcessScout or similar in WinXP, you'll see 800+ processes :) [03:51] lol [03:51] ps shows number of processes, and programs can have more than one [03:51] ok === kelly [n=kelly@209-112-222-205-cdsl-rb1.sol.acsalaska.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-015-248.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === wchogg [n=wchogg@eh-112-112-107.resnet.wisc.edu] has joined #kubuntu === humboldt [n=elias@63.130.182.17] has joined #kubuntu === wasp_ems [n=waspius@82-46-12-196.cable.ubr07.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu === mfb__ [n=fkraiem@dyn-213-36-160-52.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu [03:57] do u know how i can change the color of my fonts in the konsole? [03:58] i made it transparent but i cannot seem to find how to change their color === xwolf- [n=xwolf-@201.32.250.180] has joined #Kubuntu [03:59] Dunno. I prefer plain, old xterm. === bobi_ [n=bobi@88-149-141-108.f5.ngi.it] has joined #kubuntu === vatal [n=vatal@203.156.45.173] has joined #kubuntu === Uberriffic [n=zdennis@71-10-138-221.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === humboldt [n=elias@63.130.182.17] has joined #kubuntu === bobi_ [n=bobi@88-149-141-108.f5.ngi.it] has joined #kubuntu === _paola [n=paola@pc-155-56-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #kubuntu === Cheapy [n=Adm@londonderry-cuda1-68-234-71-44.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === _paola [n=paola@pc-155-56-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _mah [n=marcel@p548561B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === humboldt [n=elias@63.130.182.17] has joined #kubuntu === soundmaster80 [n=IceChat7@207-119-75-25.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:23] i cannot install the linux-restricted-modules-386 [04:23] any suggestions [04:23] i think it is telling me they are broken [04:24] Which kernel version is it not installing? [04:24] i don't know [04:25] when i try to update i get "the following packages have been held back" ..-386 [04:25] If you look in adept it should list the packages according to which kernel versions they're for, then you can see which one is marked as "upgradeable". [04:26] lol...well if i had x server i would :) [04:26] i have an old nvidia tnt2 card [04:26] i installed the legacy driver [04:27] last night it all worked fine [04:27] Well I can say that I found that 2.6.15.21 will install, but more recent ones don't work. So if you use that kernel version everything should work. [04:28] ah === _claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:29] how do i show the kernel i'm using? [04:29] uname -a [04:29] 2.6.15-23-386 [04:29] brb [04:30] Ah! That's the one that didn't work for me this morning. === HymnToLife [n=fkraiem@dyn-213-36-160-52.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu === _claydoh is now known as claydoh [04:31] oh [04:31] so you have tried this as well today? [04:31] Yup. I moved from Gentoo to Kubuntu Dapper Flight 7 this morning. [04:32] hmm...it's their problem then i assume? [04:32] I used kernel version 2.6.15-21 instead and everything is working. [04:33] ok, yeah checking their ubuntu+1 site they show this [04:33] brb again :) === tim [n=tim@66-227-200-134.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === bogdan [n=bogdan@S010600146c1602fb.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.227.211.249] has joined #kubuntu === kelly_roach [n=kelly@209-112-222-205-cdsl-rb1.sol.acsalaska.net] has joined #kubuntu === thom_ [n=thom@ip70-187-209-40.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === kelly_roach [n=kelly@209-112-222-205-cdsl-rb1.sol.acsalaska.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Snake[Away] is now known as Snake__ === [mX] [i=matt@kde/mbroadst] has left #kubuntu [] === dapper [n=dapper@ool-43547bea.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu === segfault [n=segfault@pc-7-111-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:54] hellow everyone [04:54] hi [04:54] a question [04:54] how can i remove adeptmanager from the startup ? [04:54] im old-school (apt via konsole) [04:55] segfault: you mean the notifier? [04:55] thats :D [04:55] (btw sorry my english) [04:56] segfault: right click, and exit it. it should ask you whether you want to reload it on startup [04:56] so easy? XD my fault then [04:56] thanks [04:56] is there a way to change what starts with a new session? === dapper is now known as jabber522 [04:57] dapper: there is a section on it in the Desktop Guide, Help -> Desktop Guide [04:57] in the kubuntu desktop guide? [04:57] yeah, for dapper === mardi [n=cheeseca@d14-69-45-188.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:57] sorry i have all the derivatives installed here hehe [04:57] i'm really loving kubuntu right now, the breezy one was very buggy for me === poimen [n=poimen@206.248.107.159] has joined #kubuntu === capricorn_tm [n=capricor@host-85-27-58-131.brutele.be] has joined #kubuntu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-011-039.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === DaSkreech [n=skreech@196.1.142.242] has joined #kubuntu === capricorn_tm [n=capricor@host-85-27-58-131.brutele.be] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === eosyn [i=eo@6532101hfc66.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:06] can I get some help with Konversation [05:06] DaSkreech: ask [05:07] How do I save My password to auth on Freenode? [05:07] in settings [05:07] identities [05:07] Right [05:07] Auto Indentify [05:07] nickserv and your password [05:08] nickserv is service? [05:08] yup [05:08] Great thanks [05:09] y.w [05:09] Now to apt-get dist-upgrade to KDE4 :) [05:11] ah! :s [05:11] you fuc**ing kidding me :S === Snake__ is now known as Snake[Sleep] [05:13] how can i use the old kcontrol? instead of system preferences? [05:14] I am trying to check my mail with Kontact! [05:14] segfault: System-KControl [05:14] not show === gil [n=gil@wiley-459-40359.roadrunner.nf.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:15] hello? [05:15] segfault: Alt+Space Kcontrol? [05:15] segfault: right click, run command --kcontrol [05:15] mm [05:15] another solution S [05:15] can someone tell me how to put kubuntu on suspend mode automatically [05:16] And it says "Could not connect to host localhost." === thom_ [n=thom@ip70-187-209-40.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === craffop [n=craffop@c-24-127-224-177.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === humboldt [n=elias@63.130.182.17] has joined #kubuntu === DaSkreech [n=skreech@196.1.142.242] has joined #kubuntu === c0llin [n=collin@frfd-02-0252.dsl.iowatelecom.net] has joined #kubuntu === atticstorm [n=garret@c-68-32-185-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === humboldt [n=elias@63.130.182.17] has joined #kubuntu === ajayc [n=ajay@59.93.255.96] has joined #kubuntu [05:41] hi guys === tim [n=tim@66-227-200-134.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:41] which should i download livecd or install cd? [05:42] anyone familiar with installing ati drivers? [05:42] ajayc: you can check via the live cd, and install usinf it [05:42] !ati [05:42] ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589 [05:43] robotgeek: is there the installer by default there in the livecd? [05:43] ajayc: yes, if you talking about dapper === regeya [n=shane@dialup-4.159.56.200.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:44] robotgeek: is that good? === beefsprocket [n=beefspro@bas1-toronto02-1242319226.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu [05:45] ajayc: not released yet, but works pretty well [05:46] should i use kubuntu or xubuntu? :P === thom_ [n=thom@ip70-187-209-40.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:47] ajayc: how much cpu/ram [05:47] 256 DDR2 ram and Pentium M 740 [05:47] 740 ghz? [05:48] nah [05:48] 1.7 Ghz [05:48] oh [05:48] ajayc: kubuntu will run very well. [05:48] How much memory? [05:49] 256 ddr2 [05:49] how can i change kmenu icons size? [05:49] the icons in the menu === nixternal`tv is now known as nixternal [05:50] btw why is kubuntu considered better than ubuntu? [05:50] It's Kool? [05:50] segfault, use alt + f2, type "kcontrol" in the text box, and hit the key [05:51] robotgeek: We are still on that? [05:51] then go to apperance, and change from there (maybe menu is not possible) [05:51] no, its not possible from there [05:51] DaSkreech: too lazy to type systemsettings, i hav kcontrol stuff loaded in my irssi [05:51] thanks vtw [05:52] i like kcontrol instead of systempreferences [05:52] segfault: From the advanced tab? [05:52] yup === nixternal`v2 [n=richie@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] its kool how? === honkzilla [n=honkman@svwr1-253.svtv.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:54] ajayc: i find that all the apps are better integrated. === dlowell [n=dlowell@ml-client207-5-115-134.microlnk.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:57] any file renaming experts here? [05:57] how do you replace the first instance of a string in a filename using KRenam [05:57] only the first instance [05:58] for exmaple This.is.a.test.file.mp3' [05:58] Bilford: example [05:58] I only want to replace the first . [05:58] so I get This is.a.test.file.mp3 === craffop [n=craffop@c-24-127-224-177.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:59] Bilford: hmm, not sure [05:59] ok === pradeepto [n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-13-128.maa.sify.net] has joined #kubuntu === aseigo [n=aseigo@kde/aseigo] has joined #kubuntu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:03] Windows is giving me 6 days to enter my activation code on my laptop [06:03] gee, what should I do [06:03] *kough* Kubuntu *kough koff* [06:03] lol [06:04] I really should see a doktor for that === Ilta_ is now known as Ilta [06:04] Increase battery life - install Kubuntu :) [06:04] really? [06:04] does Kubuntu use less resources than Windows [06:04] Yeah [06:04] and run faster? [06:04] ok [06:04] It kan however use a lot more if you get krazy [06:04] thats oc [06:04] Wait... === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu === DaSkreech gets konfused [06:05] Tests show that Linux gives your CPU a rest like it should. Windows wastes resources. [06:06] Some laptops got twice as much time between recharges :) [06:06] cool === Pupeno_ [n=Pupeno@a80-127-80-154.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu === _pocket [n=pocket@ALyon-152-1-112-114.w86-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [06:07] Ok what should happen if I install a icon theme and click apply? [06:07] It's not about running faster, but about using those 'rest-instructions' modern processors have === raf [n=raf@201.137.225.53] has joined #kubuntu === kwtm [n=kwtm1@adsl-71-159-228-51.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu === BlankB [n=blank@adsl-71-145-190-128.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu === Fig0^Breezy [n=NightFig@p5486D6AC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === GullyFoyle [n=jpar@c-71-235-79-251.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _s3B4s_ [n=jorge@201-1-85-38.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu [06:25] .. [06:26] <_s3B4s_> hello.... === nixternal`v2 yells into the microphone...."test, test, 1 2 3, test test" [06:26] hehe [06:26] i thought i went down [06:27] <_s3B4s_> somebody have already installed the LP on Kubuntu Dapper? === Xemanth^ [n=xemanth@dsl-hkigw7-fedcdc00-213.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #Kubuntu [06:27] what is the LP? === acosta [n=acosta@200.93.133.140] has joined #kubuntu [06:28] nixternal`v2: i still cant get my mic to work === acosta is now known as laptop_gsol [06:28] <_s3B4s_> the printer sistem [06:28] <_s3B4s_> system === humboldt [n=elias@63.130.182.17] has joined #kubuntu [06:28] <_s3B4s_> is a system default printer [06:28] lpd [06:28] i use cups [06:29] <_s3B4s_> ahh ok [06:29] i haven't used lpd since um...1996 i would have to say === laptop_gsol [n=acosta@200.93.133.140] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:29] <_s3B4s_> but, some programs need the commands [06:29] <_s3B4s_> to prints flies [06:29] <_s3B4s_> how do you do then? [06:29] the print daemon is there.... [06:29] i set my printer up this way [06:30] k menu > system settings > printing [06:30] in there i added my printers using the CUPS print system === malte [n=malte@81-234-234-129-no45.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:30] HP PSC 1610 Mutli-function [06:30] <_s3B4s_> yes thats ok === brent [n=brent@wnpgmb11dc1-166-235.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:31] <_s3B4s_> but how do you print files from a terminal [06:31] <_s3B4s_> for exemple [06:31] oh oh [06:31] i know where you are going now === mardi [n=cheeseca@d14-69-45-188.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:31] you are goin' old' schoool...i like your thought === c0llin [n=collin@frfd-02-0089.dsl.iowatelecom.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:31] i would use lpd [06:31] <_s3B4s_> ahh [06:32] <_s3B4s_> ok, i'm having problems to install it [06:32] <_s3B4s_> with de apt [06:32] <_s3B4s_> the apt [06:32] <_s3B4s_> =P === grimse [n=grimse@F2234.f.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:32] Is there a GUI way to edit Fstab? [06:33] my printing was installed from the get go... [06:34] <_s3B4s_> ahh ok [06:34] <_s3B4s_> kate /etc/fstab [06:34] <_s3B4s_> xD [06:34] :-) [06:34] <_s3B4s_> joke [06:34] System settings started complaing about a new line in the Fstab [06:35] i set my printer up with cups...and when i am in term i can just past print i believe...but i haven't had to do so..so i am not 100% positive [06:35] that would be sudo kata /etc/fstab ;D [06:35] kate [06:35] not kata ;D [06:35] <_s3B4s_> hehehe [06:35] <_s3B4s_> xD [06:35] or gedit [06:35] <_s3B4s_> xD [06:35] gah [06:35] kedit [06:35] ;D [06:35] no g...bad g === nixternal`v2 appologizes to the K men mafia [06:36] <_s3B4s_> hahaha [06:36] what's everyones fav bit torrent client? [06:37] i just use ktorrent [06:37] but truth be told.... utorrent (micro torrent) for windows is the best [06:37] ktorrent is about as close to utorrent i have seen [06:38] looking now :) [06:38] sudo apt-get install ktorrent will get it to ya the quickest [06:39] <_s3B4s_> :P [06:39] sudo apt-get install a_new_life_please [06:39] <_s3B4s_> hahahha [06:39] <_s3B4s_> man life [06:39] <_s3B4s_> ;) === nixternal`v2 is upgrading to a_new_life_please_v1.0 [>>>>>>>>>>>>> ] 80% complete [06:39] <_s3B4s_> xD [06:40] hehe [06:40] you need to uninstall all your old dependencies === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@200.77.150.61] has joined #kubuntu === nixternal`v2 don't have any dependencies === dfour [n=dfour@i53878875.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:41] hi [06:41] fresh install is best === nixternal`v2 needs dependencies [06:41] LOL === ubuntu is now known as ngh55 [06:41] Hi all [06:41] again,hi lol [06:41] well hello good sir [06:42] ok, im going to shoot, how can I tell kubuntu to add more resolutions_ im stuck till 1024*768 in a 19in monitor === DrBair [n=ryan@c-67-165-45-168.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:43] ngh55: have you choosen a 19 monitor in thice neet X-Server config thing? :D [06:43] im using livecd :P [06:43] didnt asked [06:44] dapper haven't made it to recognize my ati xt850 -.- [06:44] had to change this in xorg.conf [06:44] so mhhh .. i m new to kubuntu [06:45] what u changed in xorg? [06:45] the driver line ... in device section [06:45] oh [06:45] ngh55: but you should try to go to system setting->Display [06:45] and there choose another monitor [06:45] will that be the place for screen resolutions too? [06:45] ok, going to [06:45] at hardware [06:46] xorg.conf is the main config file for everything which deals with the X-server [06:46] but its way oldschool to deal with this by hand [06:46] <_s3B4s_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [06:46] I see [06:47] i see the kubuntu forums are hosed [06:47] i cant' even log in [06:48] nixternal`v2: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php [06:48] hah...that is awesome...i can't log in with ie...but firefox works...kubuntu rox [06:48] ok, apparently I have to logg off [06:48] yeah? I logged in fine. [06:48] ngh55: I m not realy knowing why but when I boot up first time the os with a working driver I had a bad resolution and could change it at all ... after switch driver again everything worked fin [06:49] I see, thnx, going to log off now, brb [06:49] what this dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg do? [06:50] reconfigures xorg server. [06:52] how long till i can apt-get dist-upgrade to dapper? [06:52] coupla weeks? [06:53] now === ajayc [n=ajay@59.93.209.15] has joined #kubuntu === Starzend [n=zen@219-88-99-240.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu [07:01] I need to partition and format a hard drive. what kde tools are available to do so? [07:01] Anyone use qtparted? [07:01] Dang it :) [07:01] qtparted :) [07:02] qtparted, aye. lovely program. though the kde partitioning tool requirement leaves me at a loss...heh [07:04] regeya: Hmm? [07:05] well, it would be as if I said, lo, bringeth me a MFC-based disk format utility. [07:05] but whatever :-) [07:07] thanks for that. [07:07] does newsmangler work with kubuntu? [07:07] has anyone a idear how to install kubuntu on a laptop without a optical drive? [07:08] how do I go about installing alsa-driver in kubuntu, as I cant compile whatever it was I downloaded from their web site? [07:08] it was PITA to install gentoo once ... and I m kind of intressted to install kubuntu on it know [07:08] dfour: what OS does it currently have? === dvsdude [n=dvsdude@CPE-58-166-179-120.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [07:08] ahmeni: gentoo [07:08] ergo linux [07:09] anyone running kubuntu dapper have the sun java plugin working in konqueror? the plugin works in firefox but not konqueror even after I do a scan for new plugins in konqueror [07:09] hrm.. Apparently you can do it with debian-bootstrap, but your mileage may very [07:09] Starzend: Why do you need Alsa? [07:10] I have no sound, that appears to be one way to get it running. [07:10] ahmeni: isn't there something like a TFTP installer or something? [07:10] I could be wrong. [07:10] dfour: not that I've found. I'd kill for kubuntu-stage3.tar.bz2 [07:11] frank_: make sure your plugin directories are correct and coresponf with the actual location of the sun java jre. [07:12] binary grabber for usenet? [07:12] dfour: you could do a test-run with debian bootstrap and a chroot [07:13] macd: I did /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so and konqueror is supposed to look there [07:13] Starzend: try xine [07:13] Ive mine installed somewhere else but that should work yes. [07:14] I have xine installed and functional. [07:14] ahmeni: thx I ll give it a try [07:14] everything APPEARS to be playing correctly, I just dont hear anything. [07:14] hardware? [07:14] CD sound, video sound (dvds play nicely, execpt for the fact they are silent) [07:15] Check the cables? :) === dfour is now known as dFour [07:15] Intel onboard HD-sound controller. [07:15] works in windows. [07:15] How do I locate a file? [07:15] find? === Bilford [n=bilford@208-45-99-126.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #Kubuntu [07:15] macd: it points to /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so what version of java do you have === DevGet [n=gustav@h61n3fls31o1096.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:15] DaSkreech: locate filename [07:15] DaSkreech: use find -iname 'blah', or locate blah after running updatedb [07:16] frank_ : ~home/jre1.5.0_06/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so === DarkED [n=darked@68-187-219-210.dhcp.chtn.wv.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:17] thats b/c I only wish my user to have java [07:17] macd: ok [07:20] frank_ ahmeni: Can I set where locate checks for files? [07:20] DaSkreech: yes. but I forget where. [07:20] locate checks almost everywhere by default [07:20] check /etc/locatedb.conf to see where it doesn't === DumSpiroSparrow [n=dumspirr@74.136.192.232] has joined #kubuntu [07:21] DaSkreech: /etc/updatedb.conf [07:22] Ah Cool [07:22] ack, yeah, frank_'s right [07:22] alsa-base is not the same as alsa-driver, correct? === poimen is now known as poimen-away [07:28] when I shutdown or restart my Xserver seams to hangup, I m using fgrlx prop driver, have anyone the same problem? [07:29] frank_: Thanks === thebanana [n=asdf@user-0c2i8kp.cable.earthlink.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:30] what is the recommended version of automake for building kde from svn? [07:30] have there been problems with automake 1.9? === _JP [n=jpn@ext123.almare.com] has joined #kubuntu === c0llin [n=collin@frfd-03-0129.dsl.iowatelecom.net] has joined #kubuntu === kkathman [n=kkathman@71.123.131.178] has joined #kubuntu [07:34] How do I get K3B to convert a MP3? === sheldonc [n=sheldon@208-98-198-49.cable.dynamic.sunwave.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:35] never mind :) === BlankB [n=blank@adsl-71-145-190-128.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:41] guys why cant we play two sounds simulataneously? [07:41] from two different players === mark--- [n=mark@c-67-161-24-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:44] KDE4 :-) [07:44] KDE4? === thebanana [n=asdf@user-0c2i8kp.cable.earthlink.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [07:44] whats the relation [07:45] mhhh is the amarok 1.4a broken? ... our its just linked too KDE4? [07:46] dFour: the what? === mode/#kubuntu [-o crimsun] by crimsun [07:47] someone at least tell me why cant we play two damn sounds simulatenouely? [07:47] ajayc: what sound card do you have? === larrywells [n=LarrySW@ip68-5-250-101.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === jeff_ [n=jeff@CPE001310cdb611-CM001225dffbea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:47] i got intel 915 default snd card [07:47] ich6 i think [07:48] that one doesn't perform pcm multiplexing natively === larrywells [n=LarrySW@ip68-5-250-101.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:48] you're stuck w/ dmix [07:48] how to do it? [07:48] (which should work by default in Breezy and Dapper, btw) [07:48] i thought it was a pretty good snd card [07:49] onboard though [07:49] no, it's craptacular, actually. [07:49] dunno [07:49] i got a laptop [07:49] (no really, it is bad.) [07:49] crimsun: I just updated amarok and know it has a problem with linked libary libkdecore.4 [07:50] so u cant expect sound blasters natively in laptops [07:50] dFour: are you running breezy? [07:50] crimsun: no dapper flight 7 [07:50] ajayc: no, but that's beside the point. What apps are you using? [07:50] dFour: you need to be running current Dapper [07:50] amarok 1.4 from kubuntu.org runs fine here. [07:51] crimsun: i am using vlc :) [07:51] ajayc: on breezy or dapper? [07:51] hey guys, see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/45526 [07:51] any opinion on this ? [07:51] crimsun: yeah 1.4 worked but today the updater told me there is 1.4a [07:51] dapper [07:52] ajayc: is the alsa output selected in the audio preferences? [07:52] dFour: eh, I commented out the repo after I installed 1.4, so.. [07:52] yeah [07:53] hey guys [07:53] crimsum: I m new to kubuntu. is there a way to install older packages? [07:53] does anybody know how to get flash working in konqueror on flight 7? [07:53] dFour: When is amarok 1.4 hitting the repos? [07:54] i got it working earlier today, then upgraded the package and now its not working [07:54] DaSkreech: uvf exception has to be approved in the first place [07:55] DaSkreech: and it'll not be an easy trick since we are in a deep freeze mode actually ;) [07:55] it shows in my found plugins but when i try to open a .swf it says that its unable to load the netscape plugin [07:55] any ideas? [07:55] Tonio_: So ... so .. no Amarok 1.4 for dapper? :-( [07:55] DaSkreech: yeah, ive got amarok 1.4 for dapper [07:56] DaSkreech: you have to add the repo for it though [07:56] DaSkreech: I didn't say this, but I need to ask Riddell about this [07:56] DaSkreech: I too .. I got it the early morning .. now the 1.4a isnt working anymore :( [07:56] jeff_: sure, but I think DaSkreech was talking about integration in main [07:56] Tonio_: hmm? [07:56] Tonio_: integration in main? [07:57] jeff_: yes [07:57] Tonio_: whats that [07:57] jeff_: there is a repo for the latest amarok, but the package shiped with the distro is in the main section [07:57] Tonio_: ok [07:58] Wait [07:58] DaSkreech: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php [07:58] That means no Kopete either ? [07:58] I know I read it [07:58] you can use this repo to install it [07:58] I was there when he put it up :) [07:58] I just thought I'd not be needy this time and wait till it hit the main repos [07:58] so i guess nobody else has flash working in konqueror? === noiesmo [n=noiesmo@CPE-58-166-179-120.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [08:00] jeff_: I have it working but it doesn't work well. do a scan for new plugins in the plugins part of konqueror setings [08:00] jeff_: flash works here [08:00] Tonio_: can you see google videos with konqueror? [08:01] frank_: test url plz ? [08:01] frank_: i did. the plugin shows up under the netscape plugins fine [08:01] Tonio_: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3224253477372538278 [08:01] Tonio_: did you do anything other than install the package and scan for the plugin to make it work? [08:02] jeff_: nope ;) === riri [n=riri@85.69.101.205] has joined #kubuntu [08:02] Tonio_: does the video work? [08:02] frank_: yes [08:02] hi nixternal [08:02] Tonio_: hmmm.. I get only sound, no video [08:03] frank_: jeff_: I configured kubuntu-default-settings to auto scan for mozilla plugins during kde session load, so I assume if you didn't touch the settings that should work... [08:03] Tonio_: So no kopete either? [08:03] frank_: ah yes, but that's not a flash issue [08:03] frank_: It is using flash 8 I think [08:03] Tonio_: but the same plugin works fine in firefox [08:03] frank_: that's the reason it doesn't work, but technically, flash 7 animations are correctly displayed here [08:03] frank_: tricky then..... [08:04] Since it's supposed to come out this month [08:04] frank_: javascript issue or something then ? I am testing others websites and flash works on them.... [08:04] anyone here got a linux box running on DAC960 raid controlle [08:04] Tonio_: im gonna set it to scan on kde load too and see if its working when i reload [08:05] jeff_: in any case the plugin is loaded and launches.... but yes, I don't see the video on google.... [08:05] but it works on other websites.... [08:05] DaSkreech: you can get the newest kopete packages for breezy on their site, and the second newest (still newer than the packs on the ropo) one for dapper [08:05] Tonio_: ok so you get the same problem as me on google [08:06] frank_: yup [08:06] jeff_: Yeah but still no 0.12 love for dapperites? [08:06] Tonio_: if there is flash embedded on a page, it just doesnt show [08:06] DaSkreech: lol yeah i know [08:06] jeff, let me show you another example [08:06] DaSkreech: we're stuck with beta 1 [08:06] in firefox the video plays but no sound :( [08:07] beta1 is in repos? [08:07] just play them both together [08:07] DaSkreech: while all the other kids are playing with 0.12 beta 2 [08:07] DaSkreech: no, its on the site [08:07] ah ok [08:07] frank_: http://2advanced.com/flashindex.htm [08:07] works [08:07] and this is an embedded flash animation [08:07] noiesmo: DAC960 sounds familiar to me, will check my servers [08:07] so guess I should just suck it up and install everything the renegade way :-) [08:08] the flash videos on youtube.com work === pradeepto [n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-13-128.maa.sify.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:09] nolte, cheers old mylax raid controller getting errors when modprobe tries to load module [08:10] noiesmo: got this one RAID bus controller: Mylex Corporation eXtremeRAID 2000/3000 support Device === m0ns00n [n=hogne@212.33.152.198] has joined #kubuntu [08:11] noiesmo: runs on SLES9 [08:11] can you add a pakage on the end of a list while the current list is downloading? [08:11] nolte, ok just found an old fedora core k12 disk and it seems to recognize the card but then freezes am trying text mode install === nolte is now known as nolte_meeting [08:13] nolte, now it says parport0: blah blah then nothing happens but it did see the raid array i created with the mylax app dam it windows xp installed without any issues but i dont want windows I just put windows on to test raid === q00p [n=q00p@68-116-217-89.dhcp.sprn.tx.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === jtmoney [n=jtmoney@ip68-101-66-132.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:16] i just reinstalled flight 7 and it's giving me an error when i try to install linux-686... anyone know why? or should i just stick w/ 5.10? [08:18] <_rince_> mrgn === Kadran [n=mohammed@196.218.79.83] has joined #kubuntu === duckdown returnz === vyoman [n=andre@80-195-189-177.cable.ubr05.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [08:22] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [08:22] linux-686: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-686 but it is not going to be installed [08:22] E: Broken packages [08:22] anyone know why i get that error when i try to install linux-686? [08:22] also, what is LTS? === humboldt [n=elias@63.130.212.41] has joined #kubuntu [08:25] LTS-linux that sucks (kidding) [08:26] hah === kosh [n=kosh@aesaeion.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:29] okay, so it's "long term support" ... does that mean it's the final version? === c0llin [n=collin@frfd-02-0089.dsl.iowatelecom.net] has joined #kubuntu === toomai [n=stefan@147.86.141.28] has joined #kubuntu === toomai is now known as scheuri [08:33] hi all === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu [08:36] jtmoney: Hmm Good point [08:38] Hobbsee: Hobbsee!!! :) [08:38] hi DaSkreech [08:38] Hmm :-( [08:38] Wish I could get konversation to flash :-( === DaIai [n=bob@c-65-96-254-160.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === riri [n=riri@85.69.101.205] has joined #kubuntu [08:40] DaSkreech: why cant you? [08:40] it's not drunk enough [08:40] Where would I set that? [08:40] DaSkreech: settings, notifications [08:41] I can get it to beep me but not to ask for attention [08:41] DaSkreech: pretty much any kde app can be set in knotify - so you can go into system settings, sound and multimedia, the second option - and change it for any program [08:41] the flash the taskbar option? [08:41] Yes [08:41] that's the last little box [08:41] It doesn't [08:41] :( === n3storm [n=n3storm@80.224.27.16] has joined #kubuntu [08:42] It flashes the system tray thingy [08:42] yes, isnt that the diea? === _carl [n=carl@LNeuilly-152-23-25-109.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [08:43] No :-( [08:43] I want to Alt+Ctrl+A and pop it up [08:43] here's some food for thought... i'm running xp pro and kubuntu on this lappy... there is a driver from toshiba for the video card for xp, and it appears that xorg is using a generic one... however, kubuntu displays much faster than xp does === DaSkreech is faaaaaaaar to lazy to lean forward and klick [08:44] Open source + 1 [08:45] Right now I have it so that if someone says me name it plays some annoying sound [08:45] DaSkreech: ah yes. you can change the sounds too :P [08:45] DaSkreech: ;) [08:46] there's probably some way to make it steal focus... [08:46] in the special app settings... [08:46] Wouldn't mind if that also triggerd the acronjob in my head to hit some key to pop up the window so I can respond [08:46] jtmoney: that's an interesting thought...what model laptop? === DaSkreech waits for everyone to start playing the annoying sound over and over again [08:46] toshiba satellite 2405-s201 [08:47] from what i understand, you have to use summit lx to get "accelerated 3d" capabilities under x [08:47] but this is far faster than xp... just blows the mind [08:47] maybe it's just because i only really use firefox and it's faster under linux? [08:50] have anyone a idear why amarok 1.4a is linked agains libkdecore.4 and not libkdecore.so.4 ... ? === cfraz89 [n=christop@44.191.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [08:52] Does sabdfl ever hang here? === Bilford_ [n=bilford@208-45-99-126.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #Kubuntu [08:53] Bilford_: Hi === riri [n=riri@85.69.101.205] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === sili_ [n=sili@147.88.200.230] has joined #kubuntu [08:56] hello [08:57] Kubuntu runs great on this laptop [08:57] 767 ghz [08:57] it had Windows on it before [08:57] thast insanely fast lol [08:57] no, thats the chip [08:57] It is. Where did you get that laptop? === sandlee [n=sili@147.88.200.230] has joined #kubuntu [08:58] haha [08:58] and you sold whos soul for this? [08:58] what [08:58] dw [08:58] oh lol [08:58] 767 mhz === leeghoofd [n=david@dsl-213-233-208-073.solcon.nl] has joined #kubuntu [08:58] it runs like 767 ghz with Kubuntu [08:58] i think itd run great on my laptop too if it was that speed [08:58] its like a new laptop [08:59] Windows ran slow and the display looked all weird [08:59] now everything is crisp, clear, and fast === danst [n=danst@p54AC5444.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === metaldave [n=metaldav@130.192.82.65] has joined #kubuntu [08:59] dumbwit? === kakalto [n=kakalto@wired-210-54-56-129.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [09:00] ho un problema posso chiedere? [09:01] companies throw out laptops that are under 1 ghz [09:01] they have to keep up to run Windows and new Windows apps [09:01] they wouldnt have to throw them out if they used Kubuntu === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-69-74.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu [09:06] metaldave: #kubuntu-es === nolte_meeting is now known as nolte === n3storm [n=n3storm@80.224.27.16] has joined #kubuntu === kahal [n=kahal@crb44-3-82-235-60-58.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === [wolf^bnc] [n=wolf2@port-212-202-41-54.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:16] Someone send me to bed!! [09:17] killall -SLEEP DaSkreech === DaSkreech slumps === shogouki [n=nicolas@ruby.lirmm.fr] has joined #kubuntu === danst [n=danst@p54AC5444.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === petros [n=petros@aws47.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu [09:28] Hobbsee: Night [09:28] night DaSkreech [09:28] Hobbsee: Your tldp URL works? [09:29] DaSkreech: my which? [09:29] Your part message URL? === _ODIN1 [n=stefan@i3ED6C06D.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:29] DaSkreech: it should do, someone commented on it earlier... === c0llin [n=collin@frfd-03-0071.dsl.iowatelecom.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:31] DaSkreech: i can connect to it... [09:31] I can't [09:31] ah well I'll try tomorrow [09:31] odd [09:32] Night all [09:32] Not from my network :-) [09:34] it's a good read, though :) === danst [n=danst@p54AC5444.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === asanchez [n=asanchez@205.Red-81-44-161.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === asanchez [n=asanchez@205.Red-81-44-161.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Bilford [n=bilford@208-45-99-126.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #Kubuntu [09:40] new kernel [09:40] 2.6.15 [09:41] restart KDE === _diop [n=diop@84.119.115.7] has joined #kubuntu === aioe [n=aioe@213.155.194.67] has joined #kubuntu === aditza [n=aditza@80.97.109.178] has joined #kubuntu === root [n=root@81-202-250-185.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu === jtmoney [n=jtmoney@ip70-171-2-98.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:51] i'm reading ubuntuguide.org and i'm thinking that "sudo mount //192.168.0.1/linux /media/sharename/ -o username=myusername,password=mypassword" definitely is not the right command for mounting a network share [09:51] shouldn't it be smbclient or something other than mount? it gives me an error when i try that (filling in the appropriate variables, of course) [09:52] the network connection is fine too... smb://server/c$ works [09:52] ohh, wiki has a great page on it [09:52] let me try that first ;) === jaaroo [n=jaro@x53.mykey.cz] has joined #kubuntu [09:53] you really dont need to do anything [09:54] are you there [09:54] Go to Network Places, and Samba [09:54] worked like a charm [09:54] its most likely already set up [09:54] ok [09:54] had to add smbfs === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-67-164-19-6.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:56] is there a way to tell Konqueror to always play Flash sound through "aoss"? === jrk [i=jrk@charon.hkfree.org] has left #kubuntu [] === AndrukTatum [n=chatzill@c-24-8-211-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === XVampireX [n=sergey@85.64.16.52.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #kubuntu === epinephrine [i=geek@82-37-152-150.cable.ubr01.wals.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === YaH00 [n=YaH00@cpmsq.epam.com] has joined #kubuntu === metaldave [n=metaldav@130.192.82.65] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === rohan [n=rohan@unaffiliated/rohan] has joined #kubuntu [10:10] hmm.. is it possible to change the kubuntu wallpaper now ? its too ugly, and has no identity.. === Bilford [n=bilford@208-45-99-126.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #Kubuntu === rohan [n=rohan@unaffiliated/rohan] has left #kubuntu [] === lernen [n=lernen@222.72.105.244] has joined #kubuntu [10:17] drag the picture onto your desktop [10:18] then click set as wallpaper === rohan [n=rohan@unaffiliated/rohan] has joined #kubuntu [10:19] why does kubuntu remove kedit and kwrite ? [10:20] rohan edubuntu also has shipit [10:20] ajayc: this is not a channel for our personal chat [10:21] i mean people edubuntu also has shipit [10:21] ajayc: oh good, so they did get it as well... [10:22] rohan: kwrite's there, it's not on the menus. they thought that 3 GUI text editors installed by default was a bit excessive === Kadran [n=mohammed@196.218.72.224] has joined #kubuntu [10:22] Hobbsee: yes, but like, for editing simple text files, imo, kedit would be overkill [10:22] rohan: kate's there [10:23] Hobbsee: err.. yeah, kate's overkill [10:23] seeing that it has those programming tabs and all [10:24] true... [10:24] kwrite's not bad for really simple stuff [10:24] hmm.. so kwrite is great for simple editing.. kate's overkill [10:24] and kate is good for .c and .cpp and such === jk- [n=jk@bh02i525f01.au.ibm.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:25] can it be changed, now ? [10:25] hi all. [10:25] anyone running amarok-1.4 ? [10:25] jk-: yes [10:25] changed to be what? [10:25] i'd really like too see the the text editor and wallpaper changed :( [10:26] what are you suggesting? text editor changed to kwrite only? [10:26] no [10:26] to kwrite for simple files [10:26] and to kate for .c and .h and such programming files [10:27] that just gets more and more confusing - better just to stick with the one text editor [10:27] kate would be 'initimidating' if someone wanted to edit ~/projects/a_quick_text_file [10:28] and the inverse is also true [10:29] but kate's mostly understandable... [10:29] oh, ok [10:29] like gedit - who uses all those commands anyway? [10:29] Hobbsee: are you using the xine arts output ? [10:29] jk-: i think so, yes [10:29] and the wallpaper .. it has no identity ! not even a logo ! :( [10:30] yes, i'm not sure why that's the case..that's kwwii's domain [10:30] 14:00 < Hobbsee> yes, i'm not sure why that's the case..that's kwwii's domain ---> the wallpaper ? [10:30] rohan: yes [10:30] Hobbsee: did you need to do do anything tricky to install the arts output ? === godefroid [n=godefroi@212.112.62.82] has joined #kubuntu [10:31] jk-: not that i remember...but i may have... === c0llin [n=collin@frfd-02-0089.dsl.iowatelecom.net] has joined #kubuntu === hugo [n=elias@63.130.182.17] has joined #kubuntu [10:33] also, why no k3b setup menu entry ? k3b is already set up properly ? [10:33] rohan: the wallpaper and all the graphics [10:33] Hobbsee: ok. === morzel [n=morzel@87.97.111.59] has joined #kubuntu [10:34] *growls at pbuilder* === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #kubuntu === dfour [n=dfour@i53878875.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === dfour is now known as dFour === Arbiter [n=arbiter@adsl-146-76.37-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu === poningru_ [n=poningru@ip24-250-215-175.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:44] http://edubuntu.com/ --> hadnt they kept a bounty removed "Human beings" ? === visik7 [n=visi@unaffiliated/visik7] has joined #kubuntu [10:45] even http://www.ubuntu.com/ === dbglt [n=dbglt@220-245-150-189-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [10:47] hi there. I'm just wondering... on updating kde I can't seem to get a desktop-list when I try "Walk through desktop" shortcut... but it instead just switches automatically to the next desktop... would there be any logical explanation for this? === voicu [n=voicu@86.106.134.105] has joined #kubuntu === voicu [n=voicu@86.106.134.105] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === voicu [n=voicu@86.106.134.105] has joined #kubuntu === dark_suic_ZZZ [n=denis@82.213.132.36] has joined #kubuntu === dark_suic_ZZZ [n=denis@82.213.132.36] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === B4zzA [n=chevron_@dsl-202-72-157-125.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [10:52] <_diop> my laptop detects my cell phone but impossible to share files with it via bluetooth, any idea === hiasll [n=hiasll@213-229-63-86.static.adsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu === _linux [n=linux@spfwsaie01.securepop.ch] has joined #kubuntu === aseigo is now known as aseigo_zZzz === guest [n=guest@cable-213-132-146-157.upc.chello.be] has joined #kubuntu === poningru_ [n=poningru@ip24-250-215-175.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:06] Hobbsee: could i get you to check if you are using amarok+xine+arts? i can't find any way to enable arts output :( [11:07] jk-: ah, amarok xine and alsa [11:07] ah, right :) === Vampis [n=niclas@c-802de253.146-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === hugo [n=elias@63.130.182.17] has joined #kubuntu [11:08] Hi... maybe it is just slightly relevant... but is there any way to get a linux (ubuntu/kubuntu?) version of ironpython? 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[12:56] man the ati drivers are giving me the hebegebies [12:57] lol why? [12:57] it should work, but on dapper it wont (even getting the drivers from the ati web site doesn't work) [12:58] cant say anything i go intel [12:58] it just locks up, dam laptop [12:58] use something else then [12:59] what? I've tried both methods [12:59] i mean use some other distro [01:00] hehe === leeghoofd [n=david@dsl-213-233-208-073.solcon.nl] has joined #kubuntu [01:00] for me that would be blasphemy [01:00] lol [01:01] i got probs too [01:01] cant play two songs simulataneulsy [01:01] actually I have been kind of unimpressed with kubuntu dapper so far.. [01:01] thundershirt: It's obvious [01:02] That's a problem with the sound drivers === rob looks at dmsg === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-69-74.net.novis.pt] has left #kubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === kakalto [n=kakalto@wired-210-54-56-129.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [01:03] hmm fglrx loads cleanly into the kernel at least [01:05] chipset is supported.. === vanja [n=vanja@luleavnpc118-dot1x.studentby.uit.no] has joined #kubuntu === Bilford_ [n=bilford@208-45-99-126.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #Kubuntu === My8os [n=My8os@ppp126-187.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu === drgonzo [n=drgonzo@124-168-1-183.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:13] hello all [01:14] I'm just switched from gentoo to ubuntu, and I'm about to install kbuntu-desktop, I'm wondering it tells me it's breezy0.55 but what version of kde is it? [01:15] 3.4.3 probably === quique [n=quique@155.210.68.16] has joined #kubuntu [01:15] !kde3.5.2 [01:15] it has been said that kde3.5.2 is to upgrade to KDE3.5.2, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". [01:15] cheers [01:15] Hi,anyone that can help me with a small problem? I'm all new to this kubuntu and linux thing, and I'm trying to find out how to transfer picutres from my digitalcamera to my computer [01:15] vanja: install digikam [01:16] where do I find that? [01:16] sudo apt-get install digikam [01:17] found it, thanks! === ziza [n=aziz@chello084112072063.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu === markoss [n=markoss@87.Red-83-52-164.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === kubk [n=kubk@158.75.204.24] has joined #kubuntu [01:22] ok i've done that, is it the same package kubuntu-desktop? [01:23] because I havn't installed it yet === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:24] yes, just add the extra repo [01:24] I've added it [01:25] and done apt-get update etc etc [01:25] yep [01:25] but it's still showing up as same version 0.55 [01:25] so when you install kubuntu-desktop, you should get kde 3.5 [01:25] drgonzo: apt-cache show kdelibs === skipjack [n=skipjack@pD9E2740B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:25] what version does that show? [01:25] Hobbsee: depends on wich repositories he has [01:26] Vampis: already told him about the kde 3.5.2 repo :) [01:26] ah, sorry, I missed that [01:26] My bad =) [01:26] hehe it's okay [01:26] ok its showing right version [01:26] good :) [01:26] Im about to do the update but im getting this error [01:27] kubuntu-desktop: [01:27] Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed [01:27] do you have the correct repos ? [01:27] try sudo apt-get install kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kubuntu-desktop [01:28] HymnToLife: should do === _voicu [n=voicu@86.106.134.105] has joined #kubuntu [01:28] i just put in the first repo [01:28] kdegraphics-kfile-plugins: Depends: libpoppler0c2-qt (>= 0.4.0) but it is not going to be installed [01:28] drgonzo> KDE 3.5.2 on Breezy ? [01:29] yeah i just grabbed breezy but ubuntu not kubuntu [01:29] now i would like to install kde 3.5.2 [01:29] So i stuck the first repo on that page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php and added the key etc === Arbiter [n=arbiter@adsl-146-76.37-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] did the update and now im getting that error [01:29] and what comand are you running ? [01:30] apt-get install kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kubuntu-desktop [01:30] hmm, definitely worked here [01:30] try another repo [01:30] remove the old and add another or just add it? === Al-Daja [n=Reborn@217.129.195.23] has joined #kubuntu [01:31] remove the old one [01:31] ok [01:31] maybe i've got old qt ? [01:31] it's whinging about libpoppler0c2-qt [01:31] even if you did, it would update it [01:32] yeah, maybe the package is missing on the repo [01:32] ok ill try === c0llin [n=collin@frfd-03-0071.dsl.iowatelecom.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:32] deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352 breezy main isnt that the main one? [01:32] because thats what I added === _voicu [n=voicu@86.106.134.105] has joined #kubuntu [01:33] drgonzo: Thats the one I used when I used breezy [01:34] http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php [01:34] check that one [01:34] ok same problem [01:34] with second repo [01:34] kdegraphics-kfile-plugins: Depends: libpoppler0c2-qt (>= 0.4.0) but it is not going to be installed [01:34] E: Broken packages [01:34] did u add the keys ? [01:34] i added the one key [01:34] ok [01:35] !info libpoppler0c2-qt [01:35] libpoppler0c2-qt: (PDF rendering library (Qt-based shared library)), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-0ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 96 kB [01:35] this one seems to be on the main ubuntu repo [01:35] whats the name of the package? [01:36] hmm atually it's in universe [01:36] did you enable it ? === Kadran [n=mohammed@196.218.81.171] has joined #kubuntu [01:36] i dunno [01:36] don't think so [01:36] i just installed this distro like 30 mins agoo [01:36] then go to your sources.list [01:36] ago* [01:36] and uncomment the lines mentioning "universe" [01:36] ok === shift [i=shift@water.shiftnetwork.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [01:37] done [01:37] then update [01:37] sudo apt-get update again then [01:37] is it ok to install gstreamer etc on kubuntu, or is there a better method for kubuntu [01:37] and install kubuntu-desktop === _voicu is now known as voicu_ === voicu_ is now known as _voicu_ === _voicu_ is now known as voicu [01:39] brilliant thanks [01:39] :) [01:39] I thought it was just a foobar of a dept issue in package( im comming from gentoo) [01:40] maybe some package that looped or something... === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu [01:41] there was just a packge needed for the install that was not available in your repos [01:41] yeah, thanks again === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-69-74.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu === airjump [n=chatzill@62.159.95.82] has joined #kubuntu === isa [n=isa@62.99.242.220] has joined #kubuntu [01:52] hi. i just installed 4GB Ram (i had 1 gb) and now i always get a kernel panic on boot (i use breezy) with kernel-2.6.12-10 and smp. i tried to boot with knoppix and get the same error. <0> kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt [01:53] i have no clue, what i could do ... [01:53] something wrong with the new memories? run a memtest [01:53] memtest didn find anything so far [01:53] there are 4 new 1gb - chips [01:54] if i install 2 of them, kubuntu works. if i install 3 or 4, the kernel gets paniced :) [01:54] hms [01:55] as this happens in knoppix too, i fear that there may be a problem with the 2.6-kernel. what do you think? === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.50.217] has joined #kubuntu [01:56] try with a 2.4 :p [01:57] HymnToLife: thats, what i am doing right now, but i would like to get some further ideas, if that doesnt work :) === meage [n=pi1l@frai.dorms.spbu.ru] has joined #kubuntu === miryam [n=miryam@186.Red-83-53-12.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:57] that's far beyond my knowledge lol [01:57] i hate kernel panic :) === miryam [n=miryam@186.Red-83-53-12.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:57] that always sounds so dramatically :) [01:58] never got any [01:58] I guess I'm not tinkering with it enough yet [02:00] does anyone know, if the kubuntu 2.4-kernel-image-smp supports 4gb ram? [02:01] i need smp and 4gb ... === lesenscommun [n=lesensco@ARennes-352-1-75-249.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [02:03] oh. there is no kubuntu 2.4 - image? :) === Paradosso [n=bobi@88-149-140-213.f5.ngi.it] has joined #kubuntu === lackdiant [n=rafa@62-43-154-33.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:04] hi, I have a problem with flash plugin [02:04] I upgraded it from aptitude === botbotdizip [n=wombat@d58-105-184-12.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [02:05] and firefox closes since thn [02:05] then [02:05] before that, in aptitude appeared a question that said if I want to downloaded from internet [02:05] and I don't remember what I answered but I think I said no [02:06] hi all, anyone here have any ideas why a dvd/cd combo won't read cdr's in kubuntu? [02:06] how can I reconfigure flash? [02:06] reads dvd's just fine, but not cdr's [02:07] botbotdizip> can it read them a all, I mean in Windows ? [02:07] yeah worked ok with xp on the system [02:07] i enabled dma and all that [02:08] just reads dvd's for now, I'm a bit stumped as to why === Lie_Ex [n=Lie_Ex@218.79.35.65] has joined #kubuntu [02:10] it read ok in small small linux too so I'm thinking its just a breezy distro thing [02:10] damn small linux, typo === djk_ [n=djk@p54A2E0A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === djk_ [n=djk@p54A2E0A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu [] [02:11] is there no kernel image for 2.4 in breezy? [02:11] nope, I don't think there is [02:12] arks [02:12] just 2.6 i think. damn small linux has reverted to 2.4 for the sake of older hardware [02:12] you'll hve to go back to Debian :D [02:12] *G* [02:12] or compile it jourself [02:13] anyone else had dvd combo probs? [02:13] mine works pretty well [02:14] does yours read CD-Rs fine on Windows ? [02:14] reading cdr's? I got a liteon [02:14] yeah it reads fine in winblowz [02:14] that's really strange === _voicu [n=voicu@86.106.134.105] has joined #kubuntu [02:15] the only thing i did was hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc [02:15] yeah i know === meage [n=pi1l@frai.dorms.spbu.ru] has joined #kubuntu === Cheapy [n=Adm@londonderry-cuda1-68-234-71-44.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:16] I'm willing to give anything a try, how do i slow the read speed from console === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-69-74.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu [02:17] i was just reading that dvd/cd readers are optimized for reading and need to be slowed down for cdrs [02:18] woops optimised for reading dvds [02:19] anyway I'll keep tinkering, I'll let you know if I can find a workaround === wirr [n=wirr@i53877501.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === v4l3 [n=v4l3@ppp-29-75.29-151.libero.it] has joined #kubuntu === DevGet [n=gustav@h61n3fls31o1096.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:30] How can I prevent using the Trash with removable media? [02:30] I can't delete files from usb memory using Konqueror. Konqueror just moves them to hidden /media/kingston/.Trash-nnnnnn folder === Starzend [n=zen@219-88-99-240.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [02:31] use console to delete them? === DeBert [n=bert@82-197-200-123.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #kubuntu === mhterres [n=marcelo@200.208.130.16] has joined #kubuntu === kkathman [n=kkathman@71.123.131.178] has joined #kubuntu === thundershirt [n=ajay@59.93.201.184] has joined #kubuntu === djk_ [n=djk@p54A2E0A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:37] where do you put a *.bin and a *.so to use them? === kettenschutz [n=kettensc@V1c7f.v.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu === _per_ [n=per@83.89.225.49] has joined #kubuntu === kettenschutz is searching for an ace-extractor tool, 'cause unace wont extract my ace file :( [02:39] could someone help ?! [02:39] <_per_> does anyone know how to stop the korganizer reminder daemon at login? (i made kmail start at login, but i can't turn the reminder daemon off) [02:39] kettenschutz: download unace from the winace site. the unace in the repos is a waste of code.. [02:40] ah ok thx @ djk [02:41] ehm, i have to replace the new unace with the old unace !? [02:41] where is the old unace stored? === v4l3 [n=v4l3@ppp-29-75.29-151.libero.it] has joined #kubuntu [02:43] kettenschutz: /usr/bin/ === RomanK [n=roman@p54A26EDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === h3sp4wn [n=samw@82.3.197.7] has joined #kubuntu === DeBert_ [n=bert@82-197-200-123.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #kubuntu [02:44] <_per_> nobody knows how to stop the korganizer reminder at login? (i HAVE tried to choose "Do not start" in the right-click menu of the system tray icon, but that doesn't work) [02:44] ok thx :) === DeadS0ul [n=sunil@n219077152001.netvigator.com] has joined #kubuntu === andre^off is now known as andred === DevGet [n=gustav@h61n3fls31o1096.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:46] yay works thanx :D [02:47] you're welcome [02:47] = ) [02:47] ehm, what was the sign to directly give the root folder in the terminal [02:47] f.e. im @ my downloads folder but i want to use a command from the multimedia folder === lackdiant [n=rafa@62-43-154-33.user.ono.com] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [02:48] there was a sign or something to directly start from home [02:48] <_per_> kettenschutz: ~ [02:48] ~ ? [02:48] sh $:multimedia/start.sh [02:48] the tilde ?! [02:48] sh ~:multimedia/start.sh [02:48] this would work? [02:50] aaah thanx === _per_ [n=per@83.89.225.49] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === airjump [n=chatzill@62.159.95.82] has left #kubuntu [] [02:54] morning === milian [n=milian@p54BEB231.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === kosh [n=kosh@aesaeion.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:57] hi guys [02:58] since I updated my Ubuntu do Dapper I can see the color sintax in vim [02:58] anybody knows what is wrong ? === DevGet [n=gustav@h61n3fls31o1096.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:00] hmmm, anybody knows why the vim-common package is wrong ??? [03:01] It doesn't have the complete vim files [03:01] :-( === dvsdude [n=dvsdude@CPE-58-166-179-120.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu === DeBert [n=bert@82-197-200-123.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #kubuntu [03:02] problem solved :-) [03:02] is vim7 in dapperdrake ? [03:03] I have a question for you all === ep [n=mdr@ip68-97-122-135.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:04] shoot [03:04] I'm using firestarter (gnome app) as my firewall with succes, I like the app, but I want to have a KDE application for this - what is the best KDE substitution for Firestarter?? [03:04] no [03:04] vim 6.4 [03:05] jeroenvrp: the answer no was to visik7, not for you :-) [03:05] mhterres: I understand :-), cause I've never heard off an app called "no" [03:05] ok I'm stuck with my packages for breezy [03:06] hehehehehhe [03:06] jeroenvrp: I don't read your question, before I send you the msg :-) === n3storm [n=n3storm@80.224.27.16] has joined #kubuntu === DevGet [n=gustav@h61n3fls31o1096.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === v4l3 [n=v4l3@ppp-29-75.29-151.libero.it] has joined #kubuntu === klerfayt [n=klerfayt@85.196.211.181] has joined #kubuntu === bobpudel [n=bobp@128.175.53.233] has joined #kubuntu [03:21] jeroenvrp: Does firestarter allow you to setup quality of service (QOS) ? [03:22] you mean to limit bandwidth and such === bobpudel [n=bobp@128.175.53.233] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Paradosso [n=bobi@88-149-140-213.f5.ngi.it] has joined #kubuntu === Paradosso [n=bobi@88-149-140-213.f5.ngi.it] has joined #kubuntu [03:25] h3sp4wn: no === Lie_Ex [n=Lie_Ex@218.79.35.65] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _mah [n=marcel@p54857484.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:27] jeroenvrp: Its useful for things like making sure your net connection is still usable under high load - (for example any ssh packets get the highest priority) - You can still browse quickly when downloading a torrent stuff like that - you need to use tc and l7-filter [03:28] h3sp4wn: yes that is what I meant [03:28] no, its a firewall === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@3e44a8f6.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #kubuntu === _bon [n=bon@82-41-231-23.cable.ubr08.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === n4w3r [n=erwan@ASte-Genev-Bois-152-1-85-58.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [03:30] The modules ipt_layer7 ipt_CONNMARK etc are part of iptables (the linux firewall) so I just thought it may setup stuff like that === beefsprocket [n=beefspro@bas1-toronto02-1242319672.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu [03:31] <_bon> this is problly a really eay probem to fix - every time i click a link in konqueror it open an open diolgo box with options for save as - open with firefox and cancle === synie [n=synie@p54ABB415.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [03:33] h3sp4wn: oh I didnt know that [03:34] I can remember it was different module, but it was a long time ago I uses it === kkathman [n=kkathman@71.123.131.178] has joined #kubuntu === xwolf- [n=xwolf-@201.32.250.180] has joined #Kubuntu === Paradosso [n=bobi@88-149-140-213.f5.ngi.it] has joined #kubuntu === Samuli^ [n=samuli@dasee2980.ulapland.fi] has joined #kubuntu [03:38] hi everybody [03:38] anybody had any luck installing artwiz fonts in kubuntu? === _per_ [n=per@83.89.225.49] has joined #kubuntu === _per_ [n=per@83.89.225.49] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === philippe_ [n=philippe@149.31.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu === ToyMan [n=stuq@74-32-76-147.dsl1.mdl.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu === nealstep [n=neal@sherlock.bakerst.org] has joined #kubuntu === djk_ [n=djk@p54A2E0A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu [] === Paradosso [n=bobi@88-149-140-213.f5.ngi.it] has joined #kubuntu === stuq [n=stuq@74-32-76-147.dsl1.mdl.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu === pradeepto [n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-12-47.maa.sify.net] has joined #kubuntu === DevGet [n=gustav@h61n3fls31o1096.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === Paradosso [n=bobi@88-149-140-213.f5.ngi.it] has joined #kubuntu === acosta [n=acosta@200.93.133.140] has joined #kubuntu === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu === sudomaster [n=sudomast@user-0c99kaj.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:04] am i on # kubuntu? === GullyFoyle [n=jpar@c-71-235-79-251.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] === noteventime [n=tilo@h154n3c1o291.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu === jk- [n=jk@ppp60-8.lns1.cbr1.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:05] hello... [04:05] **need adept help** === mrTinker [n=mrtinker@200-171-3-239.alternativasistemas.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === mhterres [n=marcelo@200.208.130.16] has joined #kubuntu === _czessi is now known as Czessi === mhterres [n=marcelo@200.208.130.16] has joined #kubuntu === barton [n=barton@c-67-177-77-37.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === barton is now known as tuxcicles === shogouki [n=nicolas@ron34-1-82-225-191-130.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === cyberboy [n=marcel@ip91359df3.speed.planet.nl] has joined #kubuntu === cyberboy [n=marcel@ip91359df3.speed.planet.nl] has joined #kubuntu [04:17] is amarok 1.4 a lot betterR? [04:17] how would one get amarok 1.4, drake? [04:19] anyone know if i were to install kde components, would it break kubuntu? [04:20] which kde components? [04:20] kde-multimedia, art... [04:21] cyberboy: a lot better than 1.3.x yes [04:22] tuxcicles: here's how: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php === nealstep [n=neal@sherlock.bakerst.org] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === sPiderman [n=keqiugua@bb219-74-147-140.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu [04:23] where can i download wine? [04:24] www.winehq.org [04:24] txs [04:24] they have a repository for ubuntu [04:24] ok [04:25] ccc_: looks like it's in dapper, darn - anyone know if there is a way to update without reinstalling to get up to dapper? [04:25] when you install kde-components... kde installs it and recompile... don't abort that process [04:25] i did en i f*cked up kde [04:25] i dont see any lniks to download wine [04:26] but i think you can do is savely [04:28] tuxcicles: sure, if you mean upgrade from breezy? === cyberboy [n=marcel@ip91359df3.speed.planet.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === mhterres [n=marcelo@200.208.130.16] has joined #kubuntu === m0ns00n [n=m0ns00n@213.167.96.196] has joined #kubuntu [04:30] tuxcicles: or you mean upgrading amarok to 1.4 in breezy? === noteventime [n=tilo@h154n3c1o291.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:32] ccc_: czessi repo === bartmaniac [n=bart@082-146-105-048.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be] has joined #kubuntu === pfabregat [n=pfabrega@OL95-50.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu [04:33] heya [04:34] have any got xgl/compiz working on (k)ubuntu64 ? , i'm really lost in the forums and i cannot find anything usefull... i keep getting this "compiz.real: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing" === _richard [n=richard@metapraxis-14.dsl.easynet.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [04:34] visik7: exactly :) === bartmaniac [n=bart@082-146-105-048.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be] has left #kubuntu [] === DrNickRiviera [n=riviera@81-178-218-91.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu === acosta_ [n=acosta@200.93.133.140] has joined #kubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu === DaSkreech [n=skreech@196.1.142.242] has joined #kubuntu === Lie_Ex [n=Lie_Ex@218.79.35.65] has joined #kubuntu === ezio [n=ezio@orion.unipv.it] has joined #kubuntu === chazco [n=chazco@ACCB5DA4.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu === ezio [n=ezio@orion.unipv.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === wchogg [n=wchogg@dhcp-24.hep.wisc.edu] has joined #kubuntu === _linux [n=linux@spfwsaie01.securepop.ch] has joined #kubuntu === ingo`` [n=ingigeir@dsl-225-59.hive.is] has joined #kubuntu [04:48] hello [04:48] someone here [04:48] ????? [04:49] sometimes :) [04:52] i have kubuntu cd -and i want to install it so i just want to know if the kubuntu burned cd has a duel booting stuff cuzz i want to have the windows 2 === trym [n=trym@sluse.inviso.no] has joined #kubuntu [04:52] <_rince_> it detects and enables other operating-systems [04:53] <_rince_> it is still accessible via grub [04:53] <_rince_> besides, it asks bevor rewriting your mbr === djk_ [n=djk@p54A2E0A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === djk_ [n=djk@p54A2E0A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu [] [04:53] high noon duel booting.... it should work fine, which cd do you have (breezy??) [04:53] so i can just put the kubuntu cd and it will auto boot [04:53] i mean duel boot [04:54] is it breezy or dapper ? [04:54] <_rince_> the cd will boot if you have enabled booting from cd in your bios [04:55] i have this [04:55] http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/5.10/kubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso [04:55] I would be careful if its dapper, dapper live beta 2 ruined a xp installation on one of my machines === _JP [n=jpn@dsl-trebras1-ff48c000-158.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === kahal [n=kahal@crb44-3-82-235-60-58.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:55] i dont want dapper [04:55] ok should work === Phleagor [n=tux@p54A61E9C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [04:56] so it will duel boot aUTO? [04:56] <_rince_> aw right, there was this bug with dapper but it has been fixed a while ago [04:56] RIGHT? if i put the kubuntu cd inn === skipjack_ [n=skipjack@pD9E2740B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:56] _rince_: I thought it was fixed on live beta 2 but either I'm stupid or the bug existed on my cd.... === kahal [n=kahal@crb44-3-82-235-60-58.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === uwo [n=uros@pD95363AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:57] <_rince_> ingo: you need free space on your hd, then after installing the kubuntu files it asks where and how to install the boot-loader === meister_ [n=meister@pD9E5BAB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [04:57] <_rince_> mindspin: worked like a charme here, about 3 weeks ago [04:57] ok [04:58] but hey i burned the cd for 1 year ago [04:58] i did an install for linuxtag and it failed... (it was the live installer) [04:58] so the cd is fixed ? [04:58] <_rince_> ingo: with breezy, there never was a problem === milian_ [n=milian@p54BEB231.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [04:58] but hey i burned the cd for 1 year ago? -i mean does the cd has a dapper pug stuff? [04:59] <_rince_> def. not, but think about getting a current breezy cd :) [04:59] ingo``: we are talking about dapper live beta , not about breezy === Cheapy [n=Adm@londonderry-cuda1-68-234-71-44.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:59] hi all - having problems with mozplugger and konqueror - konqueror won't embed realplayer. An about:plugins in konq shows that mozplugger doesn't find the conf file and binaries (the about:plugins print is here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=165900&highlight=konqueror+realplayer), in firefox all works and mozplugger reports finding both (about:plugins at same link) === patlkli [n=patlkli@217.91.79.188] has joined #kubuntu [04:59] <_rince_> mindspin: _we_ are talking about dapper, ingo is talking about breezy or something even older [04:59] yup === murph2481 [n=murph248@c-67-190-164-242.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === shachaf [n=Shachaf@c66-235-46-149.sea2.cablespeed.com] has joined #kubuntu === slow-motion [n=xxx@p548DDAB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === canen [n=nesta@208.131.175.205] has joined #kubuntu [05:03] re === leonardo [n=leonardo@195.110.108.70] has joined #kubuntu === murph2481_ [n=murph248@c-67-190-164-242.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === purnrg [n=purnrg@CPE000c76562129-CM000f9f7b5160.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === My8os [n=My8os@ppp120-40.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu === mhterres [n=marcelo@200.208.130.16] has joined #kubuntu === DevGet [n=gustav@h61n3fls31o1096.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === chazco [n=chazco@ACCB5DA4.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu === _linux [n=linux@spfwsaie01.securepop.ch] has joined #kubuntu === _student [n=student@host81-139-204-156.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #kubuntu === _student is now known as gaby [05:22] hy all [05:22] some one from romania? [05:23] e cineva pe aici din romania? [05:23] :) === _Ace_ [n=love@kr-lun-162-144-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #kubuntu === leonardo [n=leonardo@195.110.108.70] has joined #kubuntu [05:24] fuck you man === aseigo_zZzz is now known as aseigo === leonardo [n=leonardo@195.110.108.70] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@nl107-179-103.student.uu.se] has joined #kubuntu === Zoyo [n=cs@c-134-233-96.f.dsl.de.ignite.net] has joined #kubuntu === shift [i=shift@water.shiftnetwork.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === Nookie^ [n=mensur@h12n1fls32o1010.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === mal_ [n=mal@c-24-8-120-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === apol [n=apol@132.Red-83-44-211.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === mhterres [n=marcelo@200.208.130.16] has joined #kubuntu [05:33] I'm getting errors in a configure script, and I think the problem is because I have a newer v of Bash. Any easy way around this? === murph2481__ [n=murph248@c-67-190-164-242.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === mhterres [n=marcelo@200.208.130.16] has joined #kubuntu === meister_ [n=meister@pD9E5888A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:36] im trying to get a aol dialer made by linspire to run and its giving me an error === SlimG [n=robert@84.205.58.248] has joined #kubuntu [05:36] ./losaol: line 2: cd: /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/los-aol: No such file or directory [05:36] ./losaol: line 2: python2.3: command not found [05:36] ./losaol: line 3: cd: OLDPWD not set === kubuntutaotao [n=ttkubunt@221.216.98.226] has joined #kubuntu === Zoyo [n=cs@c-134-233-96.f.dsl.de.ignite.net] has left #kubuntu ["Why] === kronoz [n=kronoz@ACC86104.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #kubuntu === BlueDevil [n=mircea@81.196.151.21] has joined #kubuntu === LinuxMonkey [n=LinuxMon@unaffiliated/LinuxMonkey] has joined #kubuntu === mhterres [n=marcelo@200.208.130.16] has joined #kubuntu [05:48] tried guarddog and kmyfirewall and they both have issues [05:48] 1. guarddog: denies all connections to the internet, even dns [05:49] 2. kmyfirewall: no option to make your own rules and protocoles inside the gui [05:49] please use firestarter, no. 1 [05:50] a firewall module in kcontrol/systemsettings would be useful I think === Lurkan [n=agsm@201.144.162.2] has joined #kubuntu [05:51] a have problem with kcontrol, sometimes when i need to use administrator/root mode i click the administrator button but it doesn't do kdesu and becomes unclickable [05:52] i had this problem a fews months ago on another kubuntu install so i'm thinking its a bug === kubuntutaotao [n=ttkubunt@61.149.172.57] has joined #kubuntu [05:52] known bug in breezy [05:52] allthough should be fixed [05:53] i'm using dapper [05:53] beta2 [05:53] beta2!! [05:53] without updating t [05:53] ? [05:53] doing apt-get upgrade now... [05:53] and apt-get update first please === nixternal [n=enforcer@71.194.189.213] has joined #kubuntu [05:54] yeah i know, i used to use debian ;) [05:54] good mornin' all [05:54] or use kdesu adept_updater [05:54] hey nixterminal [05:54] whatever you wish [05:55] kronoz: did you liked kubuntu more than debiian? [05:55] also, why does konqueror use system:/home instead of simply $HOME [05:55] what is the easiest way to uninstall old kernels, headers, and images with kubuntu? [05:56] Kadran, I haven't really used Kubuntu much, but I think so, I like the modified KControl === ali [n=ali@222.124.93.208] has joined #kubuntu [05:56] nixternal, use apt === ali [n=ali@222.124.93.208] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:56] i kinda figured that...i just wanted to make sure by using it...i wouldn't run into problems [05:57] nixternal: aptitude search linux-image - aptitude purge linux-image-whatever [05:57] i want to remove all of the 2.6.15 stuff [05:57] kronoz: please tell me your openion after trying kubuntu cos' i need it from a person who really used both, thanks === chazco [n=chazco@ACCB5DA4.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:57] So you want to downgrade to breezy from dapper ? [05:58] hmm..i notice if i goto remove old headers, it wants to take with it gcc and all that stuff...the base packages [05:58] Kadran, I would say Debian is more configurable, but I can't see any real reaons to use it over Kubuntu, execpt is it possibly faster if you tweak it and you have more choice [05:59] Its faster by default [05:59] yeah but you could tweak it by using a certain kernel to make it faster [05:59] hmm...linux-kernel-headers 2.6.11.2-0ubuntu17 ....select remove and it wants to take everything...that i don't care so much about...but why is it using old headers....2.6.11??? [06:00] debian is better off as a server....kubuntu as a desktop.... [06:00] does ubuntu make any changes to dpkg? [06:00] but i have noticed some flakiness with debian and newer kernels also [06:00] nixternal, yup === pradeepto is now known as pradeepto|dinner [06:01] it is noticably faster running kde under debian sid than kubuntu (I have only tried under a chroot though) [06:01] i am still running a 2.4 kernel on my debian sarge server [06:01] i think the reason for that h3sp4wn is cuz kubuntu does come a little bloated...i have noticed that...but nothing some minor tweaking can't fix [06:02] dapper that is...flight 7 to be exact... [06:02] Its not minor to remove all the internationalisation stuff which is what I think slows it down [06:02] flight 7 was crazy bloated for em [06:02] ya...i am in the process of doing more right now === DevGet [n=gustav@h61n3fls31o1096.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:02] tis the reason i am using mIRC ow [06:02] now [06:02] and ow i guess ;p === deimon [n=deimon@aoa68.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === ali [n=ali@222.124.93.208] has joined #kubuntu === _bjoern [n=bjoern@p54BD72FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === _bjoern is now known as TheCode === TheCode [n=bjoern@p54BD72FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === C-O-L-T [n=hunika@193.231.163.10] has joined #kubuntu [06:08] The shell server that I use runs debian woody (2.2.20) with upto about 50 users most of the time. My server used to run sarge for a long time but I changed to dapper server (to look at novell ifolder enterprise but it was too slow) dappers pretty stable - and the usb2 stuff seems to be alot better in 2.6 (I have an external usb2 disk connected to it) [06:10] kaffeine, kmplayer...which is best for videos? [06:10] or your preference [06:10] question - if i would like to backup my system and try a new install of kubuntu, is it enough to copy the system and then format & copy it backto restore? in this case does tar cvpzf backup.tgz backup also hidden files? [06:10] nixternal, i prefer mplayer myself [06:11] i have too...i don't even think i have used kaffeine...it seemed bloated === nixternal waves good bye to kaffeine === theine [n=theine@fw2-new.nbi.dk] has joined #kubuntu [06:12] mozilla-mplayer is good for video and stuff in firefox [06:12] bbl === kronoz [n=kronoz@ACC86104.ipt.aol.com] has left #kubuntu ["leaving"] [06:14] nixternal: if you dont like bloat, use codeine [06:14] lol [06:14] nixternal: that's an app :-) [06:14] hey...if you want to remove knewsticker...a news ticker rss applet right...it wants to remove kdenetwork with it [06:14] that is nuts [06:15] no no...im laughin' cuz of knewsticker wantin' to take kdenetwork with it [06:15] ok [06:15] but I dont have newsticker [06:15] ooooh [06:15] isn't that like trying to take off windows media player and then microshaft disabling your network? [06:15] no no [06:15] exactly [06:15] kdenetwork is a metapackage [06:15] i know [06:16] so there's nothing wrong with it to remove it [06:16] but if you use synaptic, adept, apt...anything...and you select for removal of knewsticker...it says it takes kdenetwork with it === carlosg [n=carlos@142.74.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #kubuntu [06:17] yes but kdenetwork is empty [06:17] nixternal: kdenetwork is probably just a metapackage [06:17] it is only used, so you can install all packages at once [06:17] ok...so it isn't something i need thne [06:17] no [06:17] it sounded important to me [06:17] lol [06:17] should be in the discription [06:18] it isn't [06:18] description makes it sound like its needed === vikke [n=vikke@213-64-220-165-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:18] glad you cleared that one up for me [06:18] nixternal: [06:18] This metapackage includes a collection of network and networking relatedapplications provided with the official release of KDE [06:18] hey...what is that caffeine you were talkin' about?? [06:18] #quit [06:19] my kernel is so whicked lean and mean...but i need to make my front end lean and mean now === mal_ [n=mal@c-24-8-120-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:19] codeine [06:19] yah...whats that about? [06:19] whats better KDE or Gnome [06:19] kde [06:19] trick question...lol === X3n0n_iMac_ [n=fabien@AMontpellier-251-1-18-237.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [06:19] truthfully...i think it is a matter of prefference [06:20] yeah [06:20] you either like it or you don't [06:20] they both have the pros and cons [06:20] nixternal: thats a very very clean videoplater for xine, like kafeine [06:20] LinuxMonkey: simple answer: try both ;) [06:20] i like them both..but kde rox best for me [06:20] ahhhh [06:20] gotcha jeroenvrp [06:20] whats better for running games [06:20] lmao === n4w3r [n=erwan@ASte-Genev-Bois-152-1-85-58.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [06:20] LinuxMonkey: no difference for games [06:20] once again...it is about a matter of preference [06:21] whats the latest version of kubuntu? [06:21] openoffice, koffice, staroffice? === tictric [n=manfred@p54931EE9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:22] LinuxMonkey: the latest released version is 5.10 (breezy) 6.6 (dapper) comes out June 1st [06:22] nixternal: difficult question [06:22] i know [06:22] haha [06:22] I use koffice [06:22] thats why i asked it...you are on a roll jeroenvrp [06:22] but also sometimes openoffice [06:22] frank_ is there a dapper beta? === sphere02 [n=claes@81-233-125-90-no79.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:22] i have been using koffice myself... [06:22] it is a hate-love-relationship with both apps [06:22] openoffice was kind of slow for me [06:23] LinuxMonkey: of course [06:23] i used to use star office...which was way better than ms office back in the 90's === genjix [n=genjix@host81-129-122-138.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:23] but openoffice does more, can write wordfiles and open word files perfectly [06:23] remind you now...i haven't used x windows really since then...i have been a term freak [06:23] LinuxMonkey: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/ [06:23] i thought koffice could do the same.... [06:23] and it has the option to spellcheck in more than one language atthe same time [06:23] ok its flight 7 :) last one i tried was flight 3 [06:24] koffice can open word files [06:24] LinuxMonkey: or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20060519/ [06:24] but only text [06:24] ahhh... [06:24] well that kinda sux... [06:24] LinuxMonkey: new cd images come out every day for dapper [06:24] koffice needs a lil more to it...cuz of the way it implements itself into the whole kde family [06:24] but if I write texts myself, i use koffice [06:25] lol === semboy [n=semboy@dsl-225-59.hive.is] has joined #kubuntu [06:26] hello [06:26] someone here how can help me [06:26] i am new to linux [06:27] i want to update or install a video card for Ge Force Fx 6600 [06:27] how do i do it ? [06:28] !nvidia [06:28] Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia [06:28] gotta go [06:28] anyone know why I have an empty routing table? [06:28] (no loopback device) === xwolf- [n=xwolf-@201.32.250.180] has joined #Kubuntu === Rosex [n=rosen@h36n2fls303o1101.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:29] The NVIDIA drivers are in the "restricted" section of the Ubuntu Package === Pupeno_ [n=Pupeno@a80-127-80-154.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu === _PiRX [n=PiRX@87.110.103.215] has joined #kubuntu [06:29] wher the is that? [06:29] wher is that that? [06:29] semboy: restricted is available by default [06:30] i mean _> restricted [06:30] okei ? [06:30] semboy: use adept to install nvdia-glx for example [06:30] now i understaND [06:30] :) === carlosg [n=carlos@142.74.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt] has left #kubuntu [] === patlkli [n=patlkli@217.91.79.188] has joined #kubuntu [06:31] I got strange problem with "nvidia-settings" - they reset my settings to default values every time I log in === My8os [n=My8os@ppp120-40.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu === xleo [n=xleo@200.61.166.77] has joined #kubuntu === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@58.69.181.84] has joined #kubuntu === [wolf^bnc] [n=wolf2@port-212-202-41-54.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.17] has joined #kubuntu [06:34] Synaptic Package Manager. how do i install this? === rnunes [n=rnunes@84.90.84.95] has joined #kubuntu === urashima [n=urashima@172.Red-83-54-52.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:35] i cant find it in package manager === trym [n=trym@sluse.inviso.no] has joined #kubuntu === Shuriken [n=alexandr@d83-179-194-225.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #kubuntu [06:35] (Adpt) [06:36] hi [06:37] hello [06:38] someone knowz how to install ubuntu? [06:38] i am on kubuntu [06:38] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [06:40] semboy@SigurNafnjesu:~$ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [06:40] E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) [06:40] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [06:41] what does it mean? === blueyed_ [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #kubuntu [06:42] be sure to use sudo === semboy [n=semboy@dsl-225-59.hive.is] has joined #kubuntu === PhilHyde [n=phyde@phyde.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu === L33TrDaNu [n=zdennis@71-10-138-221.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:42] i got it :) [06:43] and you probably are currently still running something [06:43] like synaptic [06:43] i know :P === FaTBaT [n=FaTBaT@87.252.230.24] has joined #kubuntu [06:43] Heya. Got a possible newbie question here: [06:43] hey PhilHyde...let er rip...i been askin' um all day ;D === BlankB [n=blank@adsl-71-145-190-128.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:44] what is good gdm or kdm? [06:44] :S === n4w3r [n=erwan@ASte-Genev-Bois-152-1-85-58.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [06:44] both [06:44] depends on your personal preference [06:45] OK. In previous Linux distros I've used, it was easy to get characters with accents when using X/KDE; Shift+CTRL, then the letter, then a punctuation mark that was roughly like the accent. [06:45] However, it's apparently turned off or not there in Kubuntu. Any idea if I can switch it on somewhere? [06:45] PhilHyde: kcontrol then look for the regional settings .. check that out [06:46] Already looked, nothing like it there. [06:47] PhilHyde: I use deadkeys for that. I tap ` (backtick) followed by e to produce , for instance === meta_ [n=meta@3e44a8f6.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #kubuntu [06:48] Now, if I only could produce all Greek symbols, I'd be happy :) [06:48] Sounds like what I was using. How do I turn deadkeys on? === shachaf [n=Shachaf@c66-235-46-149.sea2.cablespeed.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:49] PhilHyde: Unless it says "nodeadkeys" in the keymap settings, it should be on. [06:49] wheee...now kubuntu boots blank...lovely [06:49] lol [06:49] i hate when this happens [06:50] InitNoGo? :P [06:50] Aha. And where are the "keymap settings"? === mth`MAW [n=konversa@e176211210.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu === nixternal boots up recovery mode [06:50] ;D [06:51] PhilHyde: kcontrol -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout [06:51] PhilHyde: If you have a keyboard with winkeys/penguinkeys and a menukey, pick a 105-key international [06:51] Nothing there that mentiones dead keys [06:52] PhilHyde: Your selected keymap shows something in 'command' when you click it [06:52] I'm using a 105-key UK keyboard === ps- [n=ps@fw-lan-transit.le1.spacenet.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:52] Aha, I see that. [06:52] PhilHyde: Click your UK layout under 'Active layouts' [06:52] I've already got the UK layout. It's the only one KDE is set to use. [06:52] I've got "setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout no -variant basic", which implies deadkeys, since 'nodeadkeys' isn't mentioned === uwo [n=uros@pD95363AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [06:53] "setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout gb -variant basic" here [06:53] Now you just need to find `, ', ", ~ and ^ symbols :) [06:53] seems that my xorg got borged....reinstall nvidia drivers and wallah [06:53] i loves this stuff [06:53] `;"~^. Already there. === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:54] `'"~^, sorry. Typo :) [06:54] PhilHyde: Do you need to press them twice for them to appear alone? [06:54] No [06:54] I can barely read what they are with this font anyway :P [06:55] So how do I activate the old Shift+Ctrl, Letter, Punctuation? Is it a feature that was long since removed? [06:55] Strange. What if you select "Generoc 105-key(Intl)) PC" keyboard? === nixternal crosses fingers....hope she boots up this time [06:55] EvilIdler....i had issues last night with initNoGo ;D [06:55] PhilHyde: I've never actually used that sort of combination [06:56] i just got done scrubbing my system [06:56] removing some of the overhead [06:56] Ah, that's what I have already. "Generic 105 key (Intl) PC", UK layout. [06:56] nixternal: You certainly scared me off trying it again ;) [06:56] looks like i removed a little to much ;p [06:56] PhilHyde: Let's see if I have a UK keyboard lying about :) [06:56] i setup grub for 2 kernels...so i was safe [06:56] Ahhhhh got it === EvilIdler grabs a flashlight and a shovel [06:56] libxcomposite-dev: Depends: libxcomposite1 (= 1:0.2.2.2-0ubuntu2) but 1:0.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed [06:56] kubuntu is back up and running [06:57] gahahah EvilIdler [06:57] Ah, no, its not working right [06:57] whoa...my desktop flies...and top is lean and mean [06:57] god i love this.... === nixternal umphz the kubuntu ;D [06:58] Used the "Layout variant" combo box, set it to "intl", and suddenly had to hit every bit of punctuation twice. That's screwed up. [06:58] how do I force that to accept the 0.3 version ? [06:58] i shall return.... === honkzilla [n=honkman@svwr1-253.svtv.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:00] PhilHyde: No, that's actually better, unless you mean full stop, comma etc., too :) [07:00] PhilHyde: That's what deadkeys are. [07:01] Aha. Well, they're awful :) === nixternal [n=richie@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:01] Hit the deadkey once, a letter, and get [07:01] Particularily for someone who uses apostrophes. === shift [i=shift@water.shiftnetwork.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [07:01] ok...back now...this machine is runnin' really good now [07:01] My local keyboard (for local people!) has two apostrophes [07:01] i have a couple of wireless things installed...that i need to pinpoint and remove...cuz this thing will never use wireless [07:02] PhilHyde: Keymap layouts are a pain, in general. I lose square brackets on a regular basis. Not good for a programmer ;) === randabis [n=randabis@12.171.162.37] has joined #kubuntu === tsdgeos [n=tsdgeos@kde/aacid] has joined #kubuntu === nico8481 [n=none@ip-62-235-55-98.dial.scarlet.be] has joined #kubuntu [07:03] Might have found a hint at a solution; apparently the Shift+Ctrl combo is referred to as a mapping of the "Compose key". So if I can find out where it's configured and how to map it to something I want... [07:04] here is a question for you....in system settings right...i uninstalled all bluetooth stuff....and there is a bogus icon left in system settings...how can i remove the bluetooth from system settings? [07:04] PhilHyde: Xkb options :) [07:04] PhilHyde: A veritable minefield of cryptic options ;) === tomchek [n=thomas@p5088027C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:05] Yeah, figured I'd have to go delving in there. [07:05] hi [07:05] It's not terribly well explained what a lot of those options are for, but at least I've found one. [07:05] PhilHyde: There's a field for the Eurosign. You might need to change that to allow for and [07:05] foudn it [07:06] PhilHyde: man xkbcomp, perhaps === _JakubS [n=qba@azk210.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === pradeepto|dinner is now known as pradeepto [07:10] wish I could find a decent mirror for the kubuntu 6.06 beta 2 livecd === n4w3r [n=erwan@ASte-Genev-Bois-152-1-85-58.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:10] randabis: you'd be better off using a flight 7 live cd [07:11] randabis: Get the latest one, and try by torrent. [07:11] If there is a torrent, that is [07:11] all the repos seem to be crawling today (us ones) [07:12] haven't been able to find a torrent for that [07:12] flight 7 is the newest? === tsdgeos [n=tsdgeos@kde/aacid] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === semboy [n=semboy@dsl-225-59.hive.is] has joined #kubuntu [07:12] hello [07:12] someone here [07:12] randabis: official milestone, yes [07:12] ah okay [07:12] thanks [07:13] what is the good program or software to play Steam games [07:13] I thought the beta was the newest, :/ === gil [n=gil@wiley-459-40359.roadrunner.nf.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:13] The announcement of Flight 7 did of course happen 6 hours after I burned a live DVD of the previous one :P === alleyoopster [n=alleyoop@d80-170-168-7.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #kubuntu === gil is now known as gils === gils is now known as gilster [07:14] hello i need help with suspend mode [07:14] how do i automatically place computer in suspend mode? [07:15] i am using kshutdown and want to set timer for suspend not poweroff or restart === RavenTest [n=raven301@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3575801.sympatico.ca] has joined #Kubuntu [07:16] does anyone know how to do this? === Dinofly [n=dinofly@82.238.217.179] has joined #kubuntu [07:17] well, now the problem is finding a good flight 7 mirror :p === wasp_ems [n=waspius@82-46-12-196.cable.ubr07.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [07:18] can someone tell me why i cannot send files with kopete? [07:18] anyways else having trouble getting updates for dapper? [07:18] s/anyways/anyone [07:19] hmm [07:19] trip: what is your problem? [07:19] It's just timing out [07:19] releases.ubuntu.com shows kubuntu 6.06 LTS beta 2 [07:19] guessing the servers might be under heavy load or something [07:19] ahaa I had similar problem [07:19] is there a different place for flight 7? [07:19] try sudo apt-get update in konsole [07:20] yeah that's what i did [07:20] trip: then sudo apt-get upgrade [07:20] it took a good while for it to download all the package lists [07:20] now it's just timing out when i try apt-get upgrade [07:20] trip: sudo apt-get upgrade [07:20] yeah that's what i'm doing === mhterres [n=marcelo@200.208.130.16] has left #kubuntu ["Fui] [07:20] trip, yes the US repos are crawling today [07:21] boooo [07:21] figures the day i decide to upgrade to dapper === mhterres [n=marcelo@200.208.130.16] has joined #kubuntu [07:21] #ldap [07:21] the servers are crawling [07:21] hehe [07:21] well thats most likely why, everyones going dapper [07:21] true [07:21] I know this info is on the website but to save time, what's the official release date? [07:21] though my ati still wont work in DRI :( [07:21] i found it [07:21] June something === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu [07:22] Have you tried out automatix 6.0? [07:22] yay i got in [07:22] go upgrades go === SlimG [n=robert@84.205.58.248] has joined #kubuntu [07:23] sure havent, Ive been using ubuntu since text based installer, and just been using apt ever since to upgrade [07:23] yeah [07:23] i like automatix bc it handles the codecs [07:23] I've been a debian fan for a long long time <3 [07:23] !automatix [07:23] hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu. === meister_ [n=meister@pD9E5888A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:24] though some people swear by automatix [07:24] hm i haven't heard of easyubuntu === javier [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:24] Automatix is fine if you're comfortable fixing problems it my cause === javier is now known as kmon === nixternal [n=richie@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:25] lol, i guess everything is fine by those standards [07:25] this will be interesting trying out expresso [07:25] ccc_, true [07:25] apx 3:35 left on download [07:25] I've always been the kind of kid that loves breaking my OS [07:25] ;) [07:25] hey guys, I'm having a trouble using xdmcp [07:25] stupid truck stop wifi isn't that fast === Raven301 [n=raven301@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3575801.sympatico.ca] has joined #Kubuntu [07:26] trip: then automatix is perfect for you :D [07:26] haha [07:26] Well I'll check out easyubuntu [07:26] When the client sessions is logoff, my session is logged off too [07:26] or i'll just take a day off my slackology study and doit all manually [07:26] !automatix [07:26] automatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu. [07:26] !easyubuntu [07:26] somebody said easyubuntu was an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/. === Broxtor [n=Broxtor@s5592a09d.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu [07:28] mmm nothing like 196MB of updates [07:28] Hi. My Kubuntu Dapper doesn't remember the default applications I set. Is there some way to solve that? === Tallia1Kubuntu [n=andrea@host123-115.pool874.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [07:30] stab with fork? [07:30] ss AG WRT55AG, ... [07:30] www.ciao.co.uk/Linksys_Dual_Band_Wireless_A_G_Broadband_Router_WRT55AG__5816111 - 52k - Cached - Similar pages [07:30] SMC Networks SMC EZ-Stream SMC2304WBR-AG Router - Yahoo! Shopping [07:30] sorry [07:30] =o [07:30] the string that i wanted to past was: what is a G router? [07:30] speaking about wifi ones [07:31] trip: I have 317MB [07:31] jpatrick, you win! [07:31] Tallia1Kubuntu, is a varient of the 802.11 stanfard [07:31] how do i set automatic suspend mode [07:31] trip: heh :) [07:32] standard* [07:32] oh, so it means only 802.11g connection? [07:32] jpatrick well if your connection to the apt servers is anything like mine today [07:32] you're gonna be waiting all day [07:32] lol [07:32] trip: 104kBs/s 49m22s [07:32] I wonder if my boss would give me the day off to upgrade my laptop from home [07:33] lol [07:33] jpatrick, lucky bastage, i got one package downloaded and then it timed out before even starting the net one [07:33] net/next [07:33] :) [07:33] stupid work dsl is ridiculously slow === riri [n=riri@85.69.101.205] has joined #kubuntu === PhilHyde [n=phyde@phyde.plus.com] has left #kubuntu ["/part'd"] === ajayc [n=ajay@59.93.244.224] has joined #kubuntu === riri [n=riri@85.69.101.205] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [07:34] guys prob [07:34] trip: too many people downloading porn I guess [07:34] when i run the livecd [07:34] and select shutdown [07:35] it get stuck at press enter to continue [07:35] any ideas? [07:35] jpatrick: porn... or movies that in the ends reveal to be porns [07:35] jpatrick, too many people decided to upgrade to dapper the same day as me [07:35] how dare they. [07:35] Tallia1Kubuntu: both [07:35] help me === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@stgt-d9bea1d7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:35] :) [07:35] trip: I think they dared alot === trym [n=trym@sluse.inviso.no] has joined #kubuntu [07:36] HELP ME === ubuntu_ is now known as mpathy [07:36] I think they're plotting against me [07:36] ajayc, i haven't had that issue so i have no advice [07:36] Hi there [07:36] is acpi enabled by default? [07:36] ajayc: [07:36] me neither === mhterres [n=marcelo@200.208.130.16] has joined #kubuntu [07:37] ajayc, do you close all your applications before you shutdown? [07:37] yes [07:37] Hello! If someone can tell me where I can find these default icons of konqueror or where I can reactivate them, then I will happy to switch to Kubuntu: http://konqueror.kde.org/pics/konq_icon.png (talking about all the icons left of the zoom buttons) [07:38] especially the view mode button [07:39] mpathy: enable them in the toolbars? === kozz_ is now known as kozz [07:40] jpatrick: as I said.. if someone can tell me where there are in Kubuntu, then I will switch, because they are essential.. they are not there where they should be (btw using KDE before for 4 years..) === vikke [n=vikke@213-64-220-165-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:41] They are [07:41] mpathy: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror [07:44] jpatrick: yes I know.. okay, perhaps I got my dumb week ;) would you be so kind to tell me where they are or what they called in Kubuntu? [07:45] mpathy: they're the dafault icons (Crystal SVG) [07:45] jpatrick: I didnt mean the iconset :) [07:46] I think mpathy's problem is he can't find the menu where you switch the main toolbar back on [07:47] EvilIdler: jpatrick: I need the button where I can chosse between: icon view, detailed file list view, tree view.. [07:47] mpathy: That's on the main toolbar. Three buttons. === vikke [n=vikke@213-64-220-165-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:48] which release did you use? [07:48] The Konqueror window has a Settings menu. The first choice under that is Toolbars. [07:48] everyone try to talk to me like I am a newbie to KDE and Konqueror ;) [07:48] I know [07:48] Breezy, KDE 3.4 [07:49] Have they moved around that menu in later releases, or something? [07:49] Right, now, to be sure that I am not the person who screwed it, I use the live cd ;) [07:49] dapper === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:50] Anybody here uses dapper with ltsp ? [07:50] Then someone on Dapper will have to find the option for you ;) [07:51] And I go here and in the german kubuntu channel but everyone either want to tell me the solution to another problem, tell me I screwed something or just say "its there. you just dont see it" - for a whole week? ;) [07:52] mpathy: Can you take a screenshot of your Konqueror windows? [07:53] EvilIdler: You can also use these from a kubuntu live-cd screenshot website ;) I didnt do anything but only start the cd, but be 100% sure I am not the problem ;) === tobias__ [n=tobias@dslb-084-056-226-006.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === tobias__ is now known as tobi_ === tobi_ is now known as tobi__ === tobi__ is now known as hanspeter [07:55] My fave excuse is always sunspots or phases of the moon :) [07:55] Anyone here who uses Kubuntu Dapper? === chazco [n=chazco@ACCB5DA4.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:56] I can only find 5.10 screenshots, which look exactly like mine === nixternal [n=richie@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:57] i'm using dapper === semboy [n=semboy@dsl-225-59.hive.is] has joined #kubuntu [07:57] !wine [07:57] but not for long if thse upgrades don't start [07:57] www.freewebs.com/arpakyna/dapper.jpg [07:57] And would do me the favour of searching a button like the one pressed on this screenshot, which is from the offical Konqueror page: http://konqueror.kde.org/pics/konq_icon.png [07:57] evilider, there's a dapper screenshot :) === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:58] Samuli^: Yeah yeah, Ubuntu works I know *sigh* :) [07:58] mpathy, what do you mean === thoreauputic [n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic] has joined #kubuntu [07:59] trip: Do you have a button in your Konqueror in dapper that looks like the one right of the zoom buttons in the screenshot I posted? the one who is pressed [07:59] And the Settings menu in that screenshot isn't in your edition, mpathy ? [08:00] EvilIdler: It is not. Go to the offical konqueror page.. konqueror.kde.org ;) [08:00] no [08:00] Then it's probably something about the simplified Konqueror config that Kubuntu defaults to. There's something about it in a FAQ or Wiki [08:01] EvilIdler: I know that the Konqueror in Kubuntu is different, but I should be possible to reactivate some functionality, shouldnt it? [08:01] trip: Thanks for your response.. [08:01] right click on your menus [08:01] trip: And if you would be so kind, do you find it in your Toolbar Configuration? [08:01] goto toolbars [08:01] and enable the extras toolbar [08:02] trip: And then? There it is not. [08:02] hm [08:02] mpathy: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror [08:02] trip: Only the split view button, who look similar [08:02] EvilIdler: I did that to without success for the problem I have [08:03] -to +too, [08:03] mpathy: It's possible that the live cd makes it difficult to get the standard profiles [08:03] You WILL get the buttons by installing it properly, though. [08:03] EvilIdler: I tried it even in an installation.. [08:03] I'm using dapper full install on HD [08:04] and they're not there [08:04] Did you kep your old KDE settings from another distro? [08:04] I just don't have an issue going to view toolbar and changing it there [08:04] lol [08:04] trip: I HAVE [08:04] trip: Its an enourmous usabilitiy issue, its one of the most important buttons in a file manager [08:04] it is? [08:04] lol [08:05] I always found the location bar to be the most important [08:05] trip: and there is not even a way to assign shortcuts to these menu entrys === C-O-L-T [n=hunika@193.231.163.10] has joined #kubuntu [08:05] there most likely is you just dont know how [08:06] trip: Then it starts with Kubuntu that I dont know how.. I am using KDE for 4,5 years === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@3e44a8f6.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #kubuntu === Lurkan [n=agsm@201.144.162.2] has joined #kubuntu [08:07] i did this wget http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb [08:07] trip: before KDE installations were on Debian and Knoppix and Kanotix.. so it should be that different.. Konqueror = Konqueror, and if not, Kubuntu broke it ;) === menno_ [n=menno@cc936524-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu === mfouces [n=marcos@cm34239.red.mundo-r.com] has joined #kubuntu === mfouces [n=marcos@cm34239.red.mundo-r.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === FaTBaT [n=FaTBaT@87.252.230.24] has joined #kubuntu === Broxtor [n=Broxtor@s5592a09d.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Bye!"] === mark--- [n=mark@c-67-161-24-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:11] and like the other days, after not succeding in telling me I am a newbie and only have to look right (and maybe longer then a week?) there is only the sound of silence.. === xleo [n=xleo@200.61.166.77] has joined #kubuntu [08:11] sorry for being sarcastic.. :) === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@3e44a8f6.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #kubuntu [08:13] mpathy: I'd like to see a screenshot of the Settings->Toolbars menu you have, because it's submissible as evidence in a UI bugreport ;) === deimon [n=deimon@aoa68.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [08:14] okay will put you a brand new one after rebooting the live cd to be 100% sure! === ninniuz [n=andrea@adsl-117-118.37-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu [08:14] lol [08:15] There should also be a context-menu when you right-click on any toolbars that ARE there, where you can select the missing ones === alleyoopster [n=alleyoop@d80-170-168-7.cust.tele2.fr] has left #kubuntu [] [08:15] hi I read the shipit just started...does that mean it is possible to download Kubuntu dapper drake now? === semboy is now known as Allz [08:15] I mean the stable release, not the beta ones [08:15] EvilIdler: I know - but what do I have from that? Its on now toolbar available [08:16] mpathy: So do you have the buttons in that toolbar or not? === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@3e44a8f6.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #kubuntu === wilson [n=wilson@lac.sel.eesc.usp.br] has joined #kubuntu [08:17] is it? [08:18] ninniuz: There were reports of slow downloads today [08:18] Shipit is just snailmail shipment [08:18] EvilIdler: I dont have === urashima is now known as urashimAway [08:18] yes I know what it is...but I'd prefer downloading it === SlimG [n=robert@84.205.58.248] has joined #kubuntu [08:19] just trying to understand if this is not the beta release === danielph [n=danielph@d80-170-168-7.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #kubuntu [08:19] mpathy: If you rightclick the toolbar and click the "Configure Toolbars.." choice, you should be be able to add the viewmode buttons by adding "ActionList: viewmode" from the list === danielph is now known as alley [08:20] ty anyway se you === ninniuz [n=andrea@adsl-117-118.37-151.net24.it] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === n4w3r [n=erwan@ASte-Genev-Bois-152-1-85-58.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [08:21] GRRRRRR..... I am getting so goddamn sick of Firefox closing when I try to reorganize tabs [08:21] EvilIdler: Thats the way I can do it somewhere else.. On Kubuntu Dapper there is on Actionlist: viewmode [08:22] Search4Lancer: use Konqueror [08:23] mpathy: Then it sounds broken. Breezy has it all, so I'd call that a bug. [08:23] jpatrick: no [08:23] shouldn't have to === SlimG [n=robert@84.205.58.248] has joined #kubuntu [08:23] EvilIdler: Where can I report it that it will be fixed the fastest way? its not that long to Release [08:24] and I already have all my work stuff in Firefox, and I've found Firefox to be much easier to use for my work than Konquerer === nixternal is now known as nixternal`afk === oofus [n=chris@oofus.demon.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [08:26] mpathy: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ === chazco [n=chazco@ACCB5DA4.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:26] mpathy: Actually. https://launchpad.net/ === chazco [n=chazco@ACCB5DA4.ipt.aol.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:27] oh yeah sure === rzei [n=rzei@85-194-198-190.wlannet.com] has joined #kubuntu === Armagguedes [n=pr0nLRD@87-196-238-150.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu === frepe [n=frepe@c-7e1f72d5.022-205-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [08:28] i've just updated amarok to v1.4.. when i play a file, the sidebar auto-jumps from "playlists" to "context". How do i disable that (in the previous version this did not occur). === SlimG [n=robert@84.205.58.248] has joined #kubuntu [08:29] Armagguedes: might be worth asking in #amarok [08:30] hm ok [08:30] tks apokryphos === Blissex [n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu === n3storm [n=n3storm@80.224.27.16] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === zozi [n=zozi@82-79-104-132.cable-modem.hdsnet.hu] has joined #kubuntu === nelio [n=nelio@81.192.179.183] has joined #kubuntu [08:36] bonsoir === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:37] j'aurai un petit souci [08:37] !fr [08:37] Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais. === trym [n=trym@sluse.inviso.no] has joined #kubuntu [08:38] oh ok [08:38] sorry === hansl [n=hans@84-107-168-23.dsl.quicknet.nl] has joined #kubuntu === v4l3 [n=v4l3@ppp-29-75.29-151.libero.it] has joined #kubuntu === hansl [n=hans@84-107-168-23.dsl.quicknet.nl] has left #kubuntu [] [08:40] How do I fix this: libxcomposite-dev: Depends: libxcomposite1 (= 1:0.2.2.2-0ubuntu2) but 1:0.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed ? === nelio [n=nelio@81.192.179.183] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === SlimG [n=robert@84.205.58.248] has joined #kubuntu [08:41] trym: If you're on Dapper, try updating the package lists again === Lurkan [n=agsm@201.144.162.2] has joined #kubuntu === kdw [n=kdw@c-67-164-4-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === kdw [n=kdw@c-67-164-4-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === kwtm_ [n=kwtm1@adsl-75-7-228-127.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu === andred is now known as andre^off === nixternal`afk [n=richie@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === kdw [n=kdw@c-67-164-4-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === shaamohr [n=shaamohr@lns-bzn-20-82-250-58-64.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === pacman [n=pacman@che33-2-82-225-177-83.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === pacman is now known as fumomo [08:55] bonsoir === kdw [n=kdw@c-67-164-4-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:55] je voudrais savoir comment on fais pour afficher les debits de transfert lors de la copie de fichier sous konqueror? [08:55] !fr [08:55] Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais. === hugo [n=elias@63.130.182.17] has joined #kubuntu [08:56] oups === v4l3 [n=v4l3@ppp-29-75.29-151.libero.it] has joined #kubuntu [08:56] how can i see the transfert speed when i do a copy/paste under konqueror? === meck [n=josh@wsip-68-15-36-95.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === kdw [n=kdw@c-67-164-4-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === dumbkiwi [n=matt@203.114.186.21] has joined #kubuntu [08:57] fumomo: 'vmstat 1' in a terminal window [08:58] thx but how display it in the little progression windows? === kdw [n=kdw@c-67-164-4-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:58] sometimes it's show it [08:59] not always === Phleagor [n=tux@p54A63779.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === kdw [n=kdw@c-67-164-4-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === kkathman [n=kkathman@71.123.131.178] has joined #kubuntu [09:01] .j #ubuntu+1 [09:01] ehh === DarkED [n=darked@68-187-219-210.dhcp.chtn.wv.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === andre^off is now known as andred === kdw [n=kdw@c-67-164-4-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === kdw [n=liz@c-67-164-4-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === jrattner1 [n=jrattner@pool-68-162-6-162.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === klerfayt_ [n=klerfayt@85.196.211.181] has joined #kubuntu === kdw [n=liz@c-67-164-4-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === SlimG [n=robert@84.205.58.248] has joined #kubuntu === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === kdw [n=liz@c-67-164-4-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === yuriy [n=yuriy@209-6-87-175.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu === kdw_ [n=liz@c-67-164-4-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === ep [n=mdr@ip68-97-122-135.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === jami [n=jami@a81-197-130-15.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu === uwo [n=uros@pD95363AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === RomanK [n=roman@p54A26EDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:13] apt system seems hosed [09:13] waiting for headers till the sheep come home === kwtm_ [n=kwtm1@adsl-75-7-228-59.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu === DeBert [n=bert@82-197-200-123.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #kubuntu === nico_ [n=none@ip-62-235-55-203.dial.scarlet.be] has joined #kubuntu === thinX [n=thinX@router.thymegroup.com] has joined #kubuntu === klerfayt [n=klerfayt@85.196.211.181] has joined #kubuntu [09:19] hello === mahatma [n=mahatma@p548445E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:20] in klaptop is passive mode=supend to ram? [09:20] when I try the kubuntu live cd, after much loading and hardware scanning and stuff, all I get is a command prompt - ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ [09:20] why? === chazco [n=chazco@ACCB5DA4.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:25] thinX tried 'startx &' already? [09:25] i don't know why. === nico_ is now known as nico8481 === pm [n=pm@80.48.60.10] has joined #kubuntu [09:26] nope, will will try. What should I try if that doesn't work [09:27] help, i can't turn off antialiasing for gtk2 apps in dapper!!! [09:28] kcontrol fonts settings don't work, editing fonts.conf doesn't help either === kdw [n=liz@c-67-164-4-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:30] does kubuntu not work with ati video cards? === moto_gp [n=i002462@host-84-223-141-234.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === gall_ [n=glament@195.117.230.164] has joined #kubuntu === trym [n=trym@sluse.inviso.no] has joined #kubuntu [09:33] whats a good widget engine for kde? === Mazingaro [n=tetsuja@host182-230.pool877.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [09:33] thinX: sure does, i use one === simp [n=siim@44.25-218-195.adsl.internet.lu] has joined #kubuntu [09:33] does anyone uses Dapper? [09:34] i'm running on the live cd, would that make a difference [09:34] DarkED: i like QtCurve since it's very configurable [09:34] thinX, yeah i use a mobility radeon 9700 just fine === wirr [n=wirr@i53877501.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:34] ccc_, qtcurve, ok, thanks [09:34] i'm told i can 'install' ati drivers but if it's the live cd, can they be 'installed'? [09:35] ccc_, hmm i searched for it with apt-cache, it came up as kde-style-klearlook [09:35] ccc_, im guessing that isnt it [09:35] thinX, yeah if you actually install the system [09:35] i have problem wih amarok - it doesn't play mp3 [09:35] thinX, dude it would be a waste of time [09:35] can't install the system, not my machine [09:36] thinX, the best way to see if it will work, is to download the real installer and install the system [09:36] DarkED: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=38295 === C-O-L-T [n=hunika@193.231.163.10] has joined #kubuntu [09:36] ccc_, thanks a bunch [09:37] DarkED: np. the screenshot doesn't give much since it's so configurable :) [09:37] ccc_, yeah i dont judge by screenshots :D [09:38] ccc_, did you just dpkg -i to install it? [09:38] yes [09:38] hi all. is there a qt mule client? === slow-motion [n=xxx@p548DDAB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:39] lipstik and plastik are popular too, but i believe both come with kde [09:40] ccc_, hmm it says i am missing some kdelibs, which dont exist [09:41] re === MenZa [i=MenZa@0x535e9f59.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu [09:42] crap [09:42] DarkED: which ones? [09:42] ccc_, kdelibs4c2 [09:42] ccc_, it says that kdelibs4c2a replaces it, and that there is not kdelibs4c2 [09:43] ccc_, qtcurve still wants kdelibs4c2 though :D === _william [n=william@203.177.73.72] has joined #kubuntu === stuq [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === HymnToLife [n=fkraiem@dyn-213-36-156-154.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu [09:45] ccc_, you do know what i mean by widgets yes? === lwizardl [n=james@69.51.143.172] has joined #kubuntu [09:45] haha nevermind [09:45] qtcurve is a style [09:45] i need a widget engine === kronoz [n=kronoz@ACC86104.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:46] do any kubuntu repos have the w32codecs package? [09:46] ok, better question. How many months before kubuntu will just support my vidcard out of the box without any extra hacking around on the users part? 6 months, 9 months, 14? === m0ns00n is now known as Jollie [09:47] I've waited 2 years I can wait some more [09:47] !codecs [09:47] Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories === Cleotis [n=Clovis_L@dsl-63-166-223-42.olp.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [09:47] !easysource [09:47] For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic [09:48] thinX, if you mean nVidia, probably never i think [09:49] ati actually === Bizzeh [n=darren@80-192-243-106.cable.ubr01.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [09:50] DarkED: d'oh! sorry mate, misunderstood you there. [09:50] ccc_, np :D [09:51] ccc_, by widgets i mean little tools/monitors/etc you can put on your desktop [09:51] ccc_, look up the yahoo widget engine (aka konfabulator) to see what i mean [09:51] yeah, what you're looking for is probably superkaramba [09:51] hmm, source-o-matic is quite cool :) === gall_ [n=glament@195.117.230.164] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === xwolf- [n=xwolf-@201.32.250.180] has joined #Kubuntu [09:53] how do i add mp3 to amrok now? [09:53] (xine engine) [09:53] can you pass an option to sudo to use X like sux? 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[10:20] it currently only offers me ubuntu [10:21] oh, wups, I have to use shipit.kubuntu.org :/ [10:23] does anybody know if there is a program for the printer so you can put more pages on one paper (A4)? === shift [i=shift@water.shiftnetwork.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === lwizardl [n=james@69.51.143.172] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === Bizzeh [n=darren@80-192-243-106.cable.ubr01.wiga.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === I_Eat_Plastic [n=ph3r@pool-71-244-47-98.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === opapo [n=opapo@com121.maint.alpine.k12.ut.us] has joined #kubuntu === kbrooks [n=kbrooks@unaffiliated/kbrooks] has joined #kubuntu [10:28] how do I manually change from gnome to kde with synaptic? [10:29] is there anyone who can access an iseries with kubuntu? [10:30] I_Eat_Plastic: install kubuntu-desktop [10:30] I_Eat_Plastic: although that *adds* KDE really [10:30] does kubuntu inclde python-qt? === gall_ [n=glament@195.117.230.164] has joined #kubuntu [10:30] include* === Outoftheshower is now known as YourAssIsOnTheLi [10:31] thoreauputic: so, then I delete gnome. what's the package manager for kde? === klerfayt [n=klerfayt@85.196.211.181] has joined #kubuntu === YourAssIsOnTheLi is now known as YourAssOnTheLine [10:32] I_Eat_Plastic: adept [10:32] thanks [10:32] I_Eat_Plastic: but dleting gnome isn't that easy you know :) [10:32] *deleting [10:33] thoreauputic: how do I go about doing so? [10:33] also a lot of people prefer synaptic to adept ( I use apt-get ) === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #kubuntu [10:34] I_Eat_Plastic: I never tried it - I guess removing something like libgtk* would do the trick though === troy [n=troy@wnpgmb01dc2-30-119.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:35] aptitude should be able to safely remove ubuntu-desktop and dependencies [10:35] Bazzi: yes, but only if it was installed using aptitude I think [10:35] hm [10:36] apt-get and aptitude don't talk to each other much ;) [10:36] anyone else having trouble with today's amarok 1.4.0a packages? [10:36] question is on install time, what is used [10:36] deborphan might be the trick === Snake[Sleep] is now known as Snake__ [10:37] Riddell: are you around? === marciofalvo [n=marciofa@200.136.246.176] has joined #kubuntu === marciofalvo is now known as mirso === nico_be [n=none@ip-62-235-55-203.dial.scarlet.be] has joined #kubuntu === ltbarcly [n=jvanwink@c-68-32-123-4.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === ash211 [n=ash211@user-1121a25.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:42] i can never open the adept-updater so i just use apt-get === _xleo_ [n=xleo@200.61.166.77] has joined #kubuntu === ltbarcly [n=jvanwink@c-68-32-123-4.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Flosoft [n=admin@213.219.151.148.adslpower.by.edpnet.be] has joined #kubuntu [10:43] hey @ all [10:43] where is the sources list located? [10:43] hi [10:43] uwo, /etc/apt/sources.list [10:43] tnx :) === Mee [n=HelloMe@dsl-tregw3-fe3bdc00-183.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === Flosoft [n=admin@213.219.151.148.adslpower.by.edpnet.be] has left #kubuntu [] === Xemanth^ [n=xemanth@dsl-hkigw7-fedcdc00-213.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #Kubuntu === Mee [n=HelloMe@dsl-tregw3-fe3bdc00-183.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [10:54] is kde very ram-heavy? [10:58] troy: I just tried amarok 1.4.0a on amd64 and it works good for me [10:59] Riddell: I got Amarok 1.4 [10:59] Thanks === paulvolk [n=paulvolk@69.156.59.28] has joined #kubuntu [10:59] DarkED: If you want it to be :-) [10:59] Hellp I am having trouble with adept [11:00] When I try to open it it gives me the prompt and evrything but when I type in the right password it claims I have to be root or else there is no use in running the program. [11:00] How can I fix it? === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has joined #kubuntu [11:02] hi. anyone could tell me quickly how could I determine whether my CPU is 64-bit capable? [11:02] I got a mobile Sempron and have no idea... some desktop Semprons are already 64 bit [11:03] flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm [11:03] that's from cpuinfo [11:03] Stepping and model? [11:03] stepping 2, model 44 (model name Mobile AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+) === klerfayt [n=klerfayt@85.196.211.181] has joined #kubuntu === Mee [n=HelloMe@dsl-tregw3-fe3bdc00-183.dhcp.inet.fi] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === nixternal`afk is now known as nixternal [11:04] is there any way to get amarok to read my wma to it's collection? [11:04] DarkED: Do you have 1.4? === GaiaX11 [n=vagner@200.199.36.238] has joined #kubuntu [11:04] DaSkreech, nope, 1.3.9 [11:05] I see I have SSE3... that's not too bad :) [11:05] DaSkreech, does 1.4 do it? [11:05] Riddell: So 1.4 won't be in the dapper repos? [11:05] DarkED: si === mitre [n=mitre@201.36.174.4] has joined #kubuntu [11:05] Check the Kubuntu page [11:05] DaSkreech: no [11:05] chx: Do you see a codename? [11:05] DaSkreech, ok thanks [11:06] Riddell: So no kopete .12 either? [11:06] no === zlack [n=marco@cc347443-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu [11:06] will they be in ubuntu-backports soon? [11:06] anyone knows the sollution for kde + xgl and not having borders? [11:06] *sighs* There will be a kubuntu.org deb release ala Amarok? [11:06] EvilIdler: http://pastebin.com/727226 [11:06] EvilIdler: thanks for your help [11:07] DaSkreech: not from me [11:07] but it would be good to get into backports === margouyab [n=yanawill@46.94.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:09] chx: This is actually one of the trickiest things in the world to find out, for some reason :P - what' [11:09] chx: What is the output from lspci? === NotWired [n=notubunt@cpu1112.adsl.bellglobal.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:10] I mailed martin on the katapult page [11:10] I haven't had a reply yet [11:10] EvilIdler: that lahf_lm ... is not that LAHF support in Long Mode ?? [11:12] (where Long Mode is x86-64) === nixternal`v2 [n=richie@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:13] chx: Probably. I think it is 64-bit, since model 43 is A64 dual-core [11:13] wth === Seantater [n=sean@cpe-069-132-052-158.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:13] freenode boots me more than any other irc server i have ever been on [11:13] can't idle i guess ;( [11:14] now i have to wait 2 hours for my other nick to time out [11:14] chx: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/201 [11:15] chx: I'd say it is [11:15] nixternal`v2: did you register your other nick? [11:15] yup [11:15] nixternal`v2: did you try ghost'ing it then? [11:15] linking you mean??? [11:15] no [11:15] try: /msg nickserv ghost nixternal [11:16] speak to me oh wise one [11:16] lemme try [11:16] bling [11:16] thank you sir === nixternal`v2 is now known as nixternal [11:16] you may now hug me. [11:16] you are my hero === nixternal gives aseigo a hug [11:16] huzzah! [11:16] haha [11:16] i learn something new every 15 seconds === YourAssOnTheLine is now known as callmeat6 === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:17] provies today's "entertainment": http://66.232.104.199/~vidpipe2/comp/28xuqvi/tunaktunaktun_598.wmv [11:17] gahaha [11:17] that song is still around? [11:17] (beware, it may destroy your ability to discern "music" from "random collections of air-borne vibrations") === fool [n=fool@host158-226.pool872.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [11:17] dude...i had that freakin' video like 6 years ago [11:17] it's a classic though [11:17] the colorful indian rox [11:18] he is whicked with his pointer finger [11:18] ;D [11:18] amarok is pissing me off === v4l3 [n=v4l3@ppp-29-75.29-151.libero.it] has joined #kubuntu === DarkED [n=darked@68-187-219-210.dhcp.chtn.wv.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === fool [n=fool@host158-226.pool872.interbusiness.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has joined #kubuntu === chazco [n=chazco@ACCB5DA4.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:22] EvilIdler: alas it's not 64 bit [11:22] how could I monitor a nVidia GPU temperature (nvidia proprietary driver) [11:23] DaSkreech, thanks for telling me about amarok 1.4 [11:23] lm-sensors should support all nForce now === _xleo_ [n=xleo@200.61.166.77] has joined #kubuntu [11:23] chx: Semprons are a pain to identify :/ [11:23] DarkED: Sure It works now? [11:23] yes it does...and nicely i may add [11:23] DaSkreech, It's downloading === narg [n=narg@dsl-63-173-190-115.tcq.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:23] DaSkreech, I think I need taglibwma [11:23] DaSkreech, or some such [11:24] DaSkreech, I'm hoping it comes with what it needs and i can make it work, cause I love amarok [11:24] unfortunately half my collection is wma [11:24] :D [11:25] I think I might just convert all my wma's to mp3's or ogg === themoddingden [n=Sylvie@i216-58-13-236.cybersurf.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:25] mp3 would be better cause i have an mp3 headunit in my car [11:25] You'll lose quality that way. Just re-rip. [11:26] EvilIdler, cant, dont have the source medium anymore, they were stolen [11:26] !m3 [11:26] parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kronoz [11:26] hey guys and gals is there a know issue with the logitech mx1000 mouse and sis 191 nic and realtek 8139 nics [11:26] !mp3 [11:26] somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats [11:26] DarkED: Anything really hard to find? [11:26] EvilIdler: No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them. despite of [4294685.860000] i2c_adapter i2c-0: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x5000 and [4294685.860000] i2c_adapter i2c-1: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x5040 [11:27] chx: You need i2c installed. Should be in the default kernel, though [11:27] EvilIdler, not particularly but i dont have a steady internet connection and i dont have the money to re-buy 100 or so cd's === nixternal [n=richie@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:27] argh [11:27] DarkED: That's crappy :/ === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:27] EvilIdler, yeah i know, tell that to the guy who stole my cd book out of my car 6 months ago :D [11:28] EvilIdler: uname -a says Linux catv-5062a336 2.6.15-22-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun May 7 17:27:47 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux and I have installed this with apt [11:28] I've managed to rebuild a friend's MP3 collection, thanks to us both collecting the same sort of stuff [11:28] EvilIdler, now i just use my laptop and run it through my car stereo, its better than carrying around cd's [11:29] chx: Is it a dual-core? SMP might not be the best kernel if it's not. [11:29] EvilIdler, how bad will the quality loss be if i convert a 64kb/s wma to a 128kb/s mp3? [11:29] DarkED: I've got mainly MP3, Ogg and FLAC myself. Future-proof :) [11:29] DarkED: You can't take 64kbps from nowhere ;) [11:29] EvilIdler: ah [11:29] EvilIdler, ogg is a losless format isnt it? [11:30] DarkED: First, 64kbps WMA is pretty low bitrate. [11:30] DarkED: Nope. === chazco [n=chazco@ACCB5DA4.ipt.aol.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:30] EvilIdler, 64kb/s wma is cd-quality [11:30] FLAC, APE, SHN are lossless compression [11:30] I am not sure, as said it's apt's choosing :) I have linux-image-2.6.15-22-k7 [11:30] DarkED: That's what they say..but it's not what my ears hear ;) [11:30] EvilIdler, wma's get better quality than mp3 per compression ratio [11:30] anyone ? === noaXess_kubuntu [n=noaXess_@adsl-du-217-11-45-147.cybernet.ch] has joined #kubuntu [11:30] And I can promise you that it'll be degraded from recompressing from one lossy to another ;( === TabooTreez [n=tabootre@CPE-70-94-33-215.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:31] realtek and sis 191 nic issue? [11:31] EvilIdler, can most computer music players play FLAC? [11:31] DarkED: 128kbps is not CD quality, either. [11:31] lol [11:31] DarkED: Foobar in Windows, just about anything in Linux etc., and iAudio portable players === nixternal grabs his cat5e cable, looks down the barrel of it, and grabs Freenode by the ...... you get the point [11:31] yes most computer music players do FLAC === paulvolk [n=paulvolk@69.156.59.28] has joined #kubuntu [11:32] l8r [11:32] EvilIdler, so winamp wont play FLAC? [11:32] DarkED: It probably will, but Winamp is an incredible resource hog when compared to Foobar [11:32] winamp plays everything [11:32] EvilIdler, foobar [11:32] and if it doesn't...there is a plugin for it somewhere [11:33] ok [11:33] yeah see the problem i would be faced with [11:33] everytime i wanted to burn a music cd or burn an mp3 disc [11:33] i would have to convert it again [11:33] DarkED: Winamp plays anything [11:34] 64kbps *any* lossy format is good enough for voice, but my ears just can't take it [11:34] EvilIdler, ok, one last question, do you know if k3b will burn music from a FLAC? [11:35] DarkED: Yup it should [11:35] DaSkreech, im sold :D [11:35] DarkED: http://k3b.plainblack.com/requirements [11:35] FLAC is right ther [11:35] yep [11:35] K3B is all-powerful [11:35] hmm ill research this [11:36] any mass mp3>flac converters? [11:36] Err..converting mp3 to FLAC is pretty pointless, too ;) [11:36] lol [11:36] mp3->FLAC [11:36] That's priceless [11:36] You can't get lost data from nowhere [11:37] MP3, WMA and Ogg are lossy formats. Their highest quality settings still drop some data. Two turns through any combination of them will start introducing artifacts. [11:37] EvilIdler, yeah i know, but i have some 320kb/s mp3's which take up lots of space and would be good flacs [11:37] there is a channel for ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, and edubuntu...but none for nubuntu...how come?? nubie is a good one [11:37] DarkED: What's the point? You can burn directly from MP3 if you need to make CDs for the car === paulvolk [n=paulvolk@69.156.59.28] has joined #kubuntu [11:38] EvilIdler, yeah [11:38] EvilIdler, but i want to be free [11:38] I have a problem with Adept [11:38] i gotta run to the sto' [11:38] it won't update anymore [11:38] ill brb === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:38] Personally, I'd prefer a regular portable player hooked up to a car-stereo. There are stereos that take inputs, and devices to get around it if not [11:39] DarkED: .ogg :) [11:39] It claims there are no updates but I know that there are. [11:39] DaSkreech, yeah [11:39] I don't get why it is not working === DaSkreech wants a DVD audio car stero that recognizes .ogg :) [11:39] I play my oggs in a Nintendo DS while on the move :) === andreasc89 [n=andreasc@h220n1c1o1039.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:40] how do I mount a pcmcia drive? [11:40] sudo mount and then? [11:41] andreasc89: dmesg should be able to tell you what device it's on, if it's detected [11:41] dmesg [11:41] grrr [11:41] n8 === nixternal goes and sits in corner and puts on the pwn3d hat [11:41] http://images.google.se/images?q=322rc2&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi === Bilford [n=bilford@208-45-99-126.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #Kubuntu [11:42] oh, sry [11:42] [4295841.690000] [] pcmcia_device_probe+0x6b/0x120 [pcmcia] [11:42] what does that mean? [11:42] it means it sees it [11:42] nixternal: Invest in a direct brainlink [11:42] ok, and how do I mount it? [11:42] look for somethign along the line of /dev/.... [11:42] Beyond that, I can't tell what device it is [11:43] hey EvilIdler...can you get one of those direct brainlinks on ebay? [11:43] ;D [11:43] [4295980.861000] pccard: card ejected from slot 0 [11:43] it sees it [11:43] yeah [11:43] what kind of card is it? [11:43] a CF [11:43] in a adapter [11:43] nixternal: DIY only, I'm afraid. Dunno how well it works with a human brain, though [11:43] haha [11:43] just unmounted it [11:43] and then put it in again [11:43] andreasc89: It'll be a SCSI-like device, then. Try mounting as /dev/sda1 [11:43] and now it's not on the desktop :S [11:44] lol [11:44] Is there an Xnest for Kubuntu? [11:44] i love when it works like that [11:44] everyone of my pen drives acts like that [11:44] mount: you must specify the filesystem type [11:44] how do I specify the file system= [11:44] have you formated it? [11:45] is it fat32, ntfs, ext2, ext3, reiser [11:45] vfat [11:45] raw [11:45] andreasc89: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mountpoint -t fat32, for example [11:45] i can keep goin' [11:45] thx [11:45] that is if it is fat32 [11:46] speaking of htat...if you mount it under a differnt iso or fat...and write to it...can it hurt the drive or just the file? [11:46] when i mean drive...the allocation table..not physical [11:46] It won't mount if there's no recognised filesystem [11:47] for instance...we used to mount old tape drives....and we had a tech mount it wrong...file system type....and wrote to it...we couldn't get anything to recognize th disk afterwards === meage [n=pi1l@frai.dorms.spbu.ru] has joined #kubuntu [11:47] as a matter of fact...the moron that did that is im'n me right now [11:47] LOL [11:47] nixternal: How did he manage that? === margouyab is away: a toute [11:48] he force it some how...i can't remember...it has been...hell 8 years or more [11:48] Riddell: Is there a planned Xnest for Kubuntu? [11:48] ? [11:48] sudo apt-get install xnest [11:48] I think there's protection against it now, for the most part, but tape drives aren't usually mounted [11:49] well...this was an old sony...and i....i remember....in order for it to get picked up with the sunstore information system....i remember now === zvi [n=zvi@217.147.238.7] has joined #kubuntu [11:49] he set up to do a mount his own way...that is what killed it [11:50] Ouch. How expensive was the data? :) [11:50] he screwed up everything...i remember now...omg that was a bad day [11:50] well....the data store was for a 100,000+ square foot data center....owned by what we refer to as gayT&T [11:50] That's the 'nix way; always more than one way to mess something up [11:51] haha right [11:51] he was paranoid that he was gonna get fired === justeco [n=tim@90.b160.bendtel.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:51] Hehe [11:51] we did end up getting fired [11:52] we ran 50 game servers over oc192 [11:52] Owie [11:52] it took them 1 year to locate um [11:52] we had them hidden in the false floor [11:52] there were people in australia playing on a chicago based server with 40 and 50 pings [11:52] oh but when they found them...they came down on us hard [11:53] they had crazy online info about us.... [11:53] Serves you right, subversive hacker types :P [11:53] lol [11:53] So Kubuntu won't be shipping with a XNest option in teh menus? :-( [11:53] is there any way to make easytag read wma's? [11:53] Man that's useful [11:53] it was one server that got us popped off === wasp_ems [n=waspius@82-46-12-196.cable.ubr07.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [11:53] a freakin' .... ummm....everquest on a win2k server [11:53] DaSkreech: dunno if easytag is compiled with support for wmas [11:53] DaSkreech: why not just use amarok? [11:53] go figure...they hax0red the win2k server to bust us...the nix boxes were strong [11:54] Oh, so that's where the free server went.. [11:54] robotgeek: Wrong Da :) [11:54] lol [11:54] DaSkreech: sorry [11:54] hey guys [11:54] DarkED: why not just use amarok? [11:54] omg [11:54] i am looking at the xnest wiki [11:54] robotgeek, uh easytag takes much less time [11:54] does somebody know how to "refresh" clockapplet with dcop? [11:54] it reminds me to much of solaris back in the early 90's [11:55] I need it for shell script [11:55] DarkED: You can do multiple edits at a time in Amarok [11:55] the clock is eerie [11:55] Unless you are scripting this [11:55] to automate some post adjustments [11:55] hello..i have a problem with kopete..whenever i try to configure it..by clicking on configuration it closes and i get an error in konqueror..also if i try to run my webcam then it crashes and the whole system freezes..any ideas? === catycam [n=catycam@Toronto-HSE-ppp3760210.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [11:55] DaSkreech, yeah but easytag will automatically arrange filenames/tracktags for you :D === catycam [n=catycam@Toronto-HSE-ppp3760210.sympatico.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:55] DarkED: again? What? [11:56] http://k3b.plainblack.com/requirements [11:56] Kool :-) === dlowell [n=dlowell@ml-client207-5-115-134.microlnk.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:56] Ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper Drake" Development Branch \n \l [11:57] nixternal: the clock is what? :) [11:57] scarry looking [11:57] that old analog clock === DaSkreech Giggles. Ok Konversatio is pretty cool :) [11:59] nixternal: ok [11:59] any ides about dcop signals? [11:59] ideas? [11:59] bbiab [11:59] l8r