| cbx33 | the doc laid out I'm expecting to be about 8 A5 pages | 12:04 |
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| Burgwork | not good enough for printed | 12:04 |
| Burgwork | 8 is a lot of pages | 12:04 |
| cbx33 | i know | 12:04 |
| LaserJock | does ccbysa2.5 require full text, I think it might be just a link or something | 12:04 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: I really think you need to watch the screenshots | 12:05 |
| Burgwork | hmm, I don't know | 12:05 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: they should be shrunk down | 12:05 |
| Burgwork | screenshots need not be full screen | 12:05 |
| Burgwork | they should be, at most, about 4cm square | 12:05 |
| cbx33 | Burgwork, that was the plan | 12:05 |
| cbx33 | see the mockups :p | 12:05 |
| LaserJock | Burgwork: do you guys up there use metric? | 12:06 |
| cbx33 | yup | 12:06 |
| cbx33 | you imperial nuts :p | 12:06 |
| cbx33 | I could never get the hang of it :p | 12:06 |
| cbx33 | makes my maths harder | 12:06 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock, in Canada. Officially yes. We are a wierd hybrid, in practice | 12:06 |
| LaserJock | I thought maybe it would be half-and-half since Canada seems to like it both ways | 12:06 |
| Burgwork | distance in metric, weight and height in imperial | 12:07 |
| cbx33 | and when I'm doing non-linear differential equations :p | 12:07 |
| cbx33 | yeh we do a half and half thing too :p | 12:07 |
| cbx33 | but I normally measure length etc in mm/cm | 12:07 |
| Burgwork | you buy groceries by the pound but bulk food by the 100g and gass by the litre | 12:07 |
| LaserJock | I'm used to using metric (or really SI) because I'm a scientist | 12:07 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock, swat I thought | 12:07 |
| cbx33 | anyway we digress | 12:08 |
| LaserJock | but I don't use it a lot for daily use, I have no idea what I weigh in kg, etc. | 12:08 |
| === cbx33 weighs about 70 | ||
| LaserJock | that sounds better than lbs. | 12:08 |
| === cbx33 wieghs about 10.5 stone | ||
| cbx33 | no idea what that is in lbs | 12:09 |
| LaserJock | Burgwork: did you see cbx33's patch4 | 12:09 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock, was it ok? | 12:09 |
| Burgwork | yep, looks godo | 12:09 |
| LaserJock | I see a typo | 12:10 |
| cbx33 | ooop | 12:11 |
| Burgwork | apply the patch and then fix the typos | 12:11 |
| Burgwork | I saw a grammar error too | 12:11 |
| cbx33 | oh dear.... | 12:12 |
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| Burgwork | it was mine, actually | 12:12 |
| Burgwork | I missed a comma | 12:12 |
| cbx33 | oh.... phew | 12:13 |
| LaserJock | commited | 12:13 |
| cbx33 | I only checked the manage section | 12:13 |
| cbx33 | :D | 12:13 |
| cbx33 | think i can get commit access soon :p | 12:13 |
| LaserJock | scare -> scarce and added a comma | 12:13 |
| Burgwork | cbx33, have you applied for access? | 12:16 |
| cbx33 | jscotango posted about it a while ago | 12:16 |
| mhz | LaserJock: so, any special idea for articles? | 12:16 |
| cbx33 | and people asked for me to submit more patches :p | 12:16 |
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| LaserJock | mhz: what articles? | 12:22 |
| mhz | LaserJock: iirc, you said something like "mhz, why dont you write an article?" | 12:23 |
| LaserJock | mhz: hmm, I don't remember | 12:25 |
| LaserJock | but that's not anything new | 12:25 |
| mhz | hehehe, indeed | 12:25 |
| cbx33 | are my patches ok? | 12:27 |
| mhz | LaserJock: no worries, it was lucasvo | 12:27 |
| mhz | sorry | 12:27 |
| cbx33 | hheh | 12:27 |
| cbx33 | lucasvo, wants articles for the ubuntu journal I would think | 12:27 |
| mhz | lucasvo: may 19 11:41:18 <lucasvo> mhz: are you willing to write an article? | 12:28 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: did you svn up? | 12:29 |
| cbx33 | no | 12:30 |
| cbx33 | i don;t have access | 12:30 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: no, update your repo | 12:31 |
| cbx33 | oh ok | 12:31 |
| cbx33 | done | 12:32 |
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| cbx33 | I have another patch | 12:39 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock, emailed to you | 12:40 |
| LaserJock | k | 12:41 |
| cbx33 | sorry LaserJock do you want me to keep them back and make a bigger one? | 12:41 |
| LaserJock | it's not to bad yet :-) | 12:42 |
| cbx33 | you sure | 12:42 |
| cbx33 | well, if you or Burgwork have a suggestion and example about how the applications section will look like | 12:42 |
| Burgwork | ok, headed home | 12:42 |
| cbx33 | I can check it out tomorrow | 12:42 |
| cbx33 | nn Burgwork | 12:43 |
| Burgwork | be back online in about half an hour | 12:43 |
| cbx33 | nn LaserJock | 12:43 |
| LaserJock | hmm, but you didn't have an updated svn :-) | 12:43 |
| cbx33 | I'm off to sleep | 12:43 |
| cbx33 | LaserJock, what do you mean.... | 12:43 |
| cbx33 | yes id did | 12:43 |
| cbx33 | didn't I? | 12:43 |
| cbx33 | i updated | 12:43 |
| cbx33 | oh hang on | 12:43 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: it might have not gone all the way through yet, your patch reverts some changes :-) | 12:43 |
| cbx33 | no wait | 12:43 |
| cbx33 | wait | 12:43 |
| cbx33 | I submit another | 12:43 |
| cbx33 | too sec | 12:43 |
| LaserJock | ok, fine | 12:44 |
| cbx33 | that should be it | 12:45 |
| cbx33 | nn LaserJock | 12:45 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: cya | 12:45 |
| cbx33 | sorry for the mistake | 12:45 |
| LaserJock | np | 12:46 |
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| Burgundavia_ | LaserJock, where are we at with cbx33 and his patches? | 01:27 |
| LaserJock | Burgundavia: I applied his last one | 01:28 |
| Burgundavia_ | ok | 01:31 |
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| Burgundavia | LaserJock, do you like the idea of merging the tools section with the educational apps section? | 01:43 |
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| LaserJock | Burgundavia: yeah, but I'd like to see what we want to do with the tools in general | 01:44 |
| Burgundavia | let me merge and commit and we can look then | 01:45 |
| LaserJock | ok, cool | 01:47 |
| Burgundavia | alright 3053 | 01:48 |
| Burgundavia | remembering of course that the main audience will not read this through yelp | 01:49 |
| LaserJock | ack, I don't think I did commit his last patch :/ | 01:49 |
| LaserJock | let me do that first | 01:50 |
| Burgundavia | too late | 01:50 |
| LaserJock | well, I'll do it now and then we can have a look see | 01:51 |
| LaserJock | ok, so svn up and lets look at this thing | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | btw, I think we need to do some spell checking | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | for some reason it is almost impossible for me to get spell checkers in OS X | 01:54 |
| Burgundavia | we do | 01:54 |
| Burgundavia | ugh, this whole applications section | 01:55 |
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| LaserJock | Burgundavia: yeah, so did you want to have like a para for each app area? | 01:58 |
| Burgundavia | right now I am doing the basics | 01:58 |
| Amaranth | any updates on SoC stuff? | 01:59 |
| Amaranth | i'm about ready to give up on the willow author and just write my own | 01:59 |
| Amaranth | i'd have to fork willow and change it anyway | 01:59 |
| Burgundavia | Amaranth, I have heard nothing | 01:59 |
| Burgundavia | honestly, there isn't that much code their | 01:59 |
| Burgundavia | s/their/there | 01:59 |
| Amaranth | no | 02:00 |
| Amaranth | it's very compact magic | 02:00 |
| Burgundavia | however, the concept is really good | 02:01 |
| Burgundavia | one key piece that might be difficult is some kind of a learning mode | 02:01 |
| Burgundavia | basically display the page within a frame and have the teacher click on a button to categorize it | 02:01 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, then again, that probably isn't too hard | 02:02 |
| Amaranth | a firefox extension would be useful | 02:02 |
| Burgundavia | I would make it server side | 02:02 |
| Burgundavia | remember that most education environments are mixed | 02:02 |
| Amaranth | eh? | 02:02 |
| Amaranth | oh, do some magic with an iframe | 02:03 |
| Burgundavia | basically it would be a proxy | 02:03 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 02:03 |
| Burgundavia | LaserJock, svn up | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | Burgundavia: k | 02:13 |
| LaserJock | Burgundavia: ack, I've got to get home, I'll be on later | 02:29 |
| Burgundavia | LaserJock, ok | 02:30 |
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| cbx33 | mornin all | 10:16 |
| Burgundavia | salut cbx33 | 10:17 |
| Burgundavia | I have been busy while you slept | 10:17 |
| cbx33 | i bet you have | 10:17 |
| cbx33 | i'm still in bed at the mo on pocket pc | 10:17 |
| cbx33 | can hardly breathe......feel like.....$#@ | 10:18 |
| cbx33 | howz the doc | 10:18 |
| cbx33 | !seen ogra | 10:22 |
| ubotu | ogra is currently on #edubuntu (5h 1m 4s) #ubuntu (5h 1m 4s) | 10:22 |
| Burgundavia | cbx33, you are unlikely to get anything out of ogra until monday | 10:22 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 10:22 |
| cbx33 | he's working on RC | 10:22 |
| cbx33 | isn't he | 10:23 |
| Burgundavia | more likely he is not working and relaxing for a stressful two weeks of work up to release | 10:23 |
| cbx33 | heh | 10:23 |
| cbx33 | good for him | 10:24 |
| cbx33 | right battery is dying here | 10:24 |
| cbx33 | got bout 5 more mins..... | 10:24 |
| cbx33 | then i'll switch to pc...... | 10:24 |
| cbx33 | bbiab | 10:26 |
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| Burgundavia | cbx33, fire any patches you have at the ubuntu-doc list | 10:38 |
| cbx33 | ok | 10:39 |
| cbx33 | have you uploaded your changes ? | 10:39 |
| Burgundavia | yep, everything I have done is in the repo | 10:39 |
| cbx33 | nioce | 10:40 |
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| cbx33 | thank you for this Burgundavia | 10:40 |
| cbx33 | you've been a fantastic help | 10:40 |
| cbx33 | Corey did you get that mail about the change of licensing on the wiki? | 10:42 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 10:43 |
| Burgundavia | np | 10:43 |
| Burgundavia | it has been fun | 10:43 |
| cbx33 | I'll bet | 10:50 |
| cbx33 | WOW | 10:59 |
| cbx33 | you have been busy | 10:59 |
| cbx33 | so Burgundavia | 11:01 |
| cbx33 | did you want me to try along the same lines with the science apps? | 11:04 |
| Burgundavia | cbx33, sure | 11:16 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia, you there :p | 11:18 |
| cbx33 | Any good educational platform is built on the applications it is built on and Edubuntu is no exception. | 11:18 |
| Burgundavia | right | 11:18 |
| Burgundavia | that was tired typing | 11:18 |
| cbx33 | :p | 11:18 |
| cbx33 | sorry Burgundavia | 11:18 |
| Burgundavia | correct any errors like that | 11:18 |
| cbx33 | will do, | 11:18 |
| cbx33 | We'll give it till the end of the weekend for this | 11:19 |
| cbx33 | hopefully get it to the mailing list for translation late sunday? | 11:19 |
| cbx33 | then i can off load it to do RC testing for ogra next week | 11:19 |
| Burgundavia | sounds good | 11:20 |
| cbx33 | excellent | 11:21 |
| cbx33 | that should give everyone one more look | 11:21 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia, when placing screenshots into docbook | 11:22 |
| cbx33 | should I resize them down to fit | 11:22 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 11:23 |
| lucasvo | cbx33: please add the #edubuntu-de channel into the section: I don't know much English, can I also get help in my language? | 11:23 |
| cbx33 | ok | 11:24 |
| cbx33 | lucasvo, we could list them all but it would take up too much space | 11:25 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia, have you looked at that last section at all yet? | 11:25 |
| Burgundavia | which section? the local one? | 11:25 |
| Burgundavia | better to say, "There is an Edubuntu or Ubuntu community in nearly everything language and then link to a page" | 11:25 |
| cbx33 | how can i get involved etc | 11:26 |
| Burgundavia | night | 11:28 |
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| lucasvo | cbx33: then don't mention any of them | 12:05 |
| lucasvo | people think this list is complete | 12:05 |
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| cbx33 | :p | 12:11 |
| pygi | hey cbx33 | 12:18 |
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| cbx33 | hi pygi | 12:52 |
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| pygi | whats up cbx33 ? | 12:58 |
| cbx33 | not much | 01:00 |
| cbx33 | just gonna finish some 3d modelling | 01:00 |
| cbx33 | then work on ESA :D | 01:01 |
| pygi | cbx33, nice :) | 01:02 |
| cbx33 | http://www.caligari.com/Gallery/ImagesGallery/2002/Sep02/image02.asp?Cate=GImages | 01:05 |
| cbx33 | :p | 01:05 |
| cbx33 | tis an old one, but that's the sorta thing I used to do in my spare time :p | 01:06 |
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| pygi | cbx33, nice :) | 01:11 |
| pygi | Blender | 01:12 |
| pygi | ? | 01:12 |
| cbx33 | no truespace | 01:12 |
| pygi | cbx33, ah, is it any good? | 01:13 |
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| cbx33 | pygi, it does the job | 02:08 |
| cbx33 | but not free | 02:08 |
| cbx33 | :p | 02:08 |
| pygi | cbx33, I am askin' because I know several people who don't want to go to Linux because they cant run 3DS max | 02:09 |
| juliux | ogra, i will try to get a stand on the linuxworldexpo in colonge for edubuntu | 02:13 |
| lucasvo | juliux: Ubuntu Radios is cool! | 02:26 |
| juliux | lucasvo, you mean the german one? | 02:26 |
| lucasvo | juliux: yes | 02:29 |
| lucasvo | juliux: is there an english one/ | 02:29 |
| juliux | lucasvo, i dont no if there is an english one | 02:30 |
| cbx33 | juliux, you listen to lugradio? | 02:30 |
| cbx33 | or linux reality? | 02:30 |
| cbx33 | brb | 02:30 |
| juliux | lucasvo, but i think that the german one has to much music | 02:30 |
| juliux | cbx33, http://www.ubuntuusers.de/radio/ | 02:30 |
| juliux | cbx33, but it is only german | 02:30 |
| lucasvo | juliux: I never listened to it | 02:37 |
| juliux | lucasvo, hehe | 02:37 |
| lucasvo | juliux: what do you think, would it be a good idea to make Ubuntu Journal multi lingual? | 02:39 |
| lucasvo | for e.g. have a german section? | 02:39 |
| juliux | lucasvo, i think so | 02:40 |
| juliux | lucasvo, but if there is a print version i think it is a lot of work to have it multi lingual | 02:40 |
| lucasvo | juliux: no, just print them all into one magazine | 02:40 |
| juliux | lucasvo, puh | 02:41 |
| lucasvo | if you double the pages you pay about 10% more | 02:41 |
| lucasvo | but you can sell to more people | 02:41 |
| lucasvo | which gives you bulk discount | 02:41 |
| lucasvo | cbx33: I'll try to do something with scribus once again | 02:51 |
| juliux | lucasvo, i have somebody who can do the layout | 02:53 |
| lucasvo | juliux: who? | 02:53 |
| lucasvo | juliux: www.elevendesign.ch | 02:54 |
| lucasvo | he is quite good | 02:54 |
| juliux | lucasvo, www.linwiki.de is his project, he has layoute our draft for a magazin | 02:54 |
| juliux | lucasvo, ok if you have one | 02:54 |
| lucasvo | juliux: I think we should work together | 02:55 |
| juliux | lucasvo, i have no time for that | 02:55 |
| lucasvo | juliux: are you the only one involved with printing/ | 02:56 |
| juliux | lucasvo, i? | 02:56 |
| lucasvo | I mean a print version | 02:56 |
| lucasvo | juliux: can I see your draft? | 02:56 |
| juliux | lucasvo, it is not my draft | 02:56 |
| lucasvo | I mean the draft you have, done by the linwiki guy | 02:57 |
| juliux | lucasvo, hm the draft isnt online i look if i can find it | 02:57 |
| lucasvo | thanks | 02:57 |
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| ajayc | !ubotu | 04:24 |
| ubotu | Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots. | 04:24 |
| ajayc | #debian-bots | 04:25 |
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| ajayc | pygi, hi | 04:43 |
| pygi | ajayc, how may I help you? | 04:43 |
| ajayc | pygi, how can i get a bot from #debian-bots? | 04:43 |
| pygi | you can't :) | 04:43 |
| ajayc | damn | 04:44 |
| ajayc | i cant get my own | 04:44 |
| pygi | you can install blootbot tho | 04:44 |
| ajayc | cos i dunno where to host it | 04:44 |
| pygi | ah | 04:44 |
| ajayc | any idea what i can do? | 04:44 |
| pygi | buy a server? :) | 04:48 |
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| cbx33 | afternooooon all | 05:17 |
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| lucasvo | hi cbx33 | 05:20 |
| cbx33 | hi lucasvo | 05:21 |
| cbx33 | Laser_away: ping | 05:22 |
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| cbx33 | hi highvoltage | 06:30 |
| cbx33 | did you manage to find that theme tarball? | 06:32 |
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| LaserJock | hi cbx33 | 07:01 |
| cbx33 | hey LaserJock | 07:06 |
| cbx33 | jerome said my latest patch i submitted to the ML didn't work | 07:06 |
| cbx33 | it did here | 07:06 |
| cbx33 | can you check it out? | 07:06 |
| ajayc | hi guys | 07:10 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: ok | 07:11 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: patched fine for me, jerome might not have svn up'd before he applied it or something | 07:17 |
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| cbx33 | possibly | 07:31 |
| cbx33 | did you apply it LaserJock ? | 07:31 |
| LaserJock | cbx33: yep, just now | 07:33 |
| LaserJock | ok, I have perhaps a suggestion for the Applications section | 07:33 |
| LaserJock | I still like the idea of seperating the desktop apps (which are no different than an Ubuntu desktop I don't think) and the educational apps | 07:34 |
| LaserJock | so I was thinking that under Applications we could have a sectional called "Edubuntu desktop" and a section called "Educational" | 07:35 |
| LaserJock | and we could make Edubuntu Desktop more narrative and less list like | 07:36 |
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| P3L|C4N0 | greetings | 07:42 |
| cbx33 | Laser_away, ok sounds good, what would happen about screen hosts? | 07:52 |
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| cbx33 | hi jane_ | 08:03 |
| cbx33 | ping highvoltage | 08:05 |
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| cbx33 | highvoltage, is the idea to have two wikis now? | 08:43 |
| cbx33 | what would help.edubuntu be edited by? | 08:44 |
| Laser_away | cbx33: read wiki.ubuntu.com/BetterWikiDocs | 08:58 |
| Laser_away | cbx33: my basic understanding is that anything we want moved to help.ubuntu.com should have CategoryDocumentation at the bottom | 08:59 |
| Laser_away | cbx33: I think ogra was thinking of that list of pages you were doing | 09:01 |
| lucasvo | Laser_away: do you think that's reosanable? | 09:03 |
| lucasvo | because then people would look for articles which are on help-wiki in the normal wiki, wont find them and create new ones | 09:03 |
| lucasvo | I would rather just mark the wiki articles with some marker and then have an editor team who copies them and looks that there is no rubbish in them. | 09:04 |
| lucasvo | cbx33: what do you think? | 09:05 |
| lucasvo | ah- | 09:06 |
| Laser_away | lucasvo: all user documentation wiki pages are moving to help.ubuntu.com | 09:10 |
| Laser_away | wiki.ubuntu.com will only have developer documenation, specs, etc. | 09:10 |
| lucasvo | yeah, I just finished reading the spec | 09:10 |
| lucasvo | I think best would be, if one would do it like this: | 09:10 |
| lucasvo | help.ubuntu.com/wiki the actual wiki | 09:11 |
| lucasvo | help.ubuntu.com the documentation | 09:11 |
| Laser_away | yes, that is the way it is | 09:11 |
| lucasvo | but I think help.ubuntu.com/ should NOT be a wiki | 09:11 |
| Laser_away | it isn't | 09:13 |
| lucasvo | oh, so I misunderstood this | 09:15 |
| Laser_away | help.ubuntu.com holds the docs that are shipped, help.ubuntu.com/wiki holds the user documentation wiki | 09:17 |
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| Amaranth | projects get their slots for SoC this afternoon | 09:26 |
| lucasvo | the apple store is awesome | 09:36 |
| cbx33 | Laser_away, who will have editing rights to help.ubuntu.com ? | 10:17 |
| cbx33 | for updating docs etc? | 10:17 |
| cbx33 | and when is this move taking place? | 10:17 |
| lucasvo | cbx33: afaik the docteam | 10:18 |
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