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mdkespiv: around?02:40
spivmdke: yep02:41
mdkespiv: ooh, awesome.02:41
spiv:)02:41
mdkespiv: first, thanks so much for all that stuff02:41
spivNot a problem, the hardest part was finding time around everything else ;)02:41
mdkei appreciate it02:41
mdkespiv: I'm just trying to send this mega email02:41
mdkea friend of mine helped me by writing a script, but I wanted to run it past you02:42
mdkehttp://pastebin.com/727491 <-- the problem with it currently is that it doesn't take account of spaces in the name in the second field of the csv file02:42
spivYeah, you'll need a proper CSV parser I think.02:43
mdkeand I also just wanted to shot it to you in case there might be any other problems with encoding or something02:43
mdkeshow*02:43
spivSome of the names even have " characters in them!02:43
mdkeah02:43
spivIf you write a python script, and use the csv module, it should DTRT.02:44
mdkei can't do scripting, but I can try and ask around02:44
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mdkesomeone else tried to help me with it in python, and came up with this:02:45
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mdkehttp://pastebin.com/72750002:46
spivOh, heh.  I'm doing a more literal translation.02:47
mdkei don't think he's used anything clever for the csv tho02:47
spivRight.02:47
spivThe key thing is to "import csv", and then "reader = csv.reader(open("path/to/foo", "rb"))", then "for row in reader:" rather than "for line in file:"02:48
mdkeah, I can try running that past him02:48
mdkethanks02:48
jordimeeeeep02:48
Drumrhey, i signed up for the 10 free kubuntu disks and tonight i got a call on the number i provided on the order form from someone wanting to know about my oil and electric usage :(02:49
mdkemeep to you jordi 02:49
mdkeDrumr: unlikely to be related02:49
jordiDrumr: totally unrelated02:50
jordibut, tell us. How much oil and electricity do you use? ;)02:50
spivmdke: http://pastebin.com/72751402:52
mdkespiv: that's short :)02:53
spivmdke: Totally untested, but it should be the same as the bash script, except with csv parsing :)02:53
mdkei'll give it a test run02:53
spivmdke: Right, I'm still calling out to "mail" rather than mucking about with SMTP directly, which keeps things simple.02:54
mdkeyeah, better for me too02:55
mdkespiv: an error of some sort. http://pastebin.com/72751602:56
spivHeh, oops.  s/PIPE/subprocess.PIPE/02:57
mdkespiv: http://pastebin.com/72751802:57
mdkethese errors are more complicated than the code02:57
spiv"proc.wait()" instead of "proc.stdin.wait()"02:58
mdkespiv: now it has just stopped, no error02:59
spivHmm.  Oh, I'll bet you need "proc.stdin.close()" before the wait.03:00
mdkespiv: bingo03:01
mdkeok, having tested it with a file with 2 addresses, I wonder if I should just go ahead and whack in the 450003:02
mdkespiv: what do you reckon?03:05
spivI don't have any opinion on that, I'm just doing the code ;)03:05
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mdkespiv: i mean, in terms of it working ok03:06
mdkethere were no weird characters in the test file I just did03:06
spivHmm, I'd throw in a "print email" at the top of the loop, just so if it does somehow blow up, you'll know what you've already sent.03:07
mdkeabove the first "proc" line?03:08
spivRight.03:08
mdkespiv: ok, thanks a lot. Last question, which is *really* outside your mandate. If I relay these emails through my isp, you think it will cause problems?03:10
mdkeI don't have a mail server of my own currently set up03:10
spivIt depends on the ISP.03:10
spivIt might, or it might not.03:10
spivI know an ISP I used to work for would have noticed it at the very least, and probably have started refusing them.03:11
mdkeok, I'll set one up :)03:11
spivEspecially because the body you're sending is the same in every mail, which is spam-like to an automatic system.03:12
mdkespiv: you think they will notice even if I use a mail server on my own home box?03:13
spivMuch less likely, assuming they allow you access to port 25.03:13
mdkeyeah, ok I'll do that03:14
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mdkethanks so much03:14
spivAlthough,03:14
spivthe problem with sending mail direct from your ADSL IP is that recipients might be more likely to treat it as spam :/03:14
spivProbably the best option anyway.03:14
mdkegah03:15
mdkegood point too03:15
spivIt's probably fine if you have a static IP and haven't sent mail before, your IP is unlikely to be on a blacklist.03:16
mdkedynamic ip...03:17
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spivI'm far from an expert on this.03:19
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mdkehmm03:21
mdkespiv: I'm going to just check my ip in some blacklists, if i don't find it, maybe that will be ok03:24
mdkethere seem to be some websites03:24
spivmdke: Sounds like a good plan.03:25
spivOtherwise, maybe ask for advice on #ubuntu, I'm sure there's a diverse set of knowledge there.  I try hard to avoid sysadmin work ;)03:26
spivmdke: good luck!  I'm off to have brunch and enjoy my weekend.03:28
mdkespiv: thanks again, have a good weekend03:28
spivI will.  Doing some diving and going to a eurovision party :)03:28
mdkehaha03:28
mdkeenjoy03:29
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mpt_hi BjornT, how's bug 3140 going?06:18
UbugtuMalone bug 3140 in malone "Bug watches can't be removed" [Critical,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/314006:18
mpt_It's having an interesting effect at https://staging.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs :-)06:19
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mpt_Anyone available to help me with bzr pushing, about 30 minutes from now?08:00
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BjornThi mpt__. a fix which allows bug watches to be unlinked from the bugtask should be included in the next rollout. it won't be possible to actually delete the bug watch, though, since it was decided to try to solve the problem in a different way.08:43
mpt__BjornT, ok08:54
mpt__BjornT, will it automatically unlink watches from contexts that are supposed to be using Malone?08:56
mpt__Or will that be done manually so they don't get lost?08:56
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spivmpt__: So, bzr pushing... what's up?09:14
lifeless'dude'09:15
lifelesswhats up dude09:15
BjornTmpt__: oh, right. no, it won't, it solves a different problem. for the ubuntu case (and for any context using malone), i thought it was fixed already, but apparently not. i'll ask stub to execute some sql to unlink those bug watches.09:16
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mpt__spiv, brb09:25
spivmpt__: Actually, I need to disappear again, sorry :(09:26
mpt__ah, ok09:27
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sabdflis there a doc about upgrading a branch to knit format before pqm submission?03:13
LarstiQthere might be in the document on repositories by jamesh03:14
LarstiQbut someone who actually works on launchpad might be able to better answer the specifics03:15
sivangsabdfl: I see there is a doc about that in https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/RocketfuelToKnits , from what I asked around "bzr upgrade" does that job 03:17
LarstiQif we're talking just bzr, then 'bzr upgrade' does indeed do the job03:18
sivanghey LarstiQ  :)03:18
sivangLarstiQ: 'sup?03:18
LarstiQsivang: trying to get curtains up today03:19
sivangLarstiQ: curtains? this another bzr component / soemthing-format? :)03:19
LarstiQsivang: no, they block sunlight :)03:20
sivangah HAHA03:20
BjornTsabdfl: the url sivang gave you should explain it. but if you don't have a need to merge rf into your branch, you don't need to upgrade the branch before submitting it to pqm.03:20
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kikosabdfl, yeah, RFTK on the wiki03:25
kikowhat sivang said03:25
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sabdflthanks guys03:26
sabdflerk, what if I stated bzr upgrade and forgot the --format=metaweave?03:27
kikommm, not sure03:27
stubIt means you have started doing it the slow way03:27
sabdflok03:28
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stubThe wiki page documents a faster method of converting. No idea how long converting a launchpad weave branch to knit directly will take. I don't know what happens if you interrupt it either ;)03:29
sabdflit made a backup so i think i can just kill, restore, and be done03:29
sabdflonce the conversion is done locally, do I need to convert the remote copy (on chinstrap) too?03:30
sabdflor just push to that?03:30
stubI just pushed03:30
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sabdflkiko: do you know if carlos fixed those test failures and landed the translation priority bits?03:44
sabdfli'm trying to land a fixed branch and got conflicts in the exact places there was a test fix required03:44
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sabdflmoin moin ddaa03:57
ddaahello sabdfl03:58
glatzorping elmo04:18
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mdkespiv: jeez I wonder what you guys must think of europeans09:40
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lucasvohi09:48
lucasvoIt's a bit confusing to display the "You have subscribed to this spec."-message with red bg and a stop sign09:49
lucasvoan exclamation mark would be better09:49
lucasvoshould I report a bug?09:49
matsubaralucasvo: I think it's already reported09:49
lucasvooh, ok09:49
matsubaralucasvo: let me look for it, just a sec09:49
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lucasvosearched for subscribe but I didn't find anything09:50
matsubaralucasvo: bug 4016109:50
UbugtuMalone bug 40161 in blueprint "When subscribing to a spec, the confirmation looks like an error." [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4016109:50
lucasvooh, ok09:51
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lucasvoah, I know why :=09:52
lucasvoI looked in the LP not in Blueprint09:52
matsubaralucasvo: in cases like this you can use: https://launchpad.net/projects/launchpad/+bugs09:53
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lucasvomatsubara: thanks09:53
matsubaralucasvo: you're welcome09:53
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Rawhhmm, seems that by submitting a bug, which includes an url thats really long, the url doesn't get pasted like it should, in my firefox browser10:04
Rawhanyone else getting the same problem with this url : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/4578910:04
UbugtuMalone bug 45789 in Ubuntu "[mirror]  Mirroring includes a symlink which can be abused?" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  10:04
Rawhd'oh10:05
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matsubaraRawh: that's bug 92910:40
UbugtuMalone bug 929 in launchpad "Long words (such as URLs) overflow columns" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/92910:40
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