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| mhz | hi all | 12:56 |
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| Burgundavia | salut mhz | 01:03 |
| mhz | Burgundavia: salut | 01:10 |
| === mhz is very comfortable with Edubuntu Dapper GUI settings | ||
| mhz | just this chalkboard wallpaper is a little 'hmmm, how should i put it...hmmm, errr, hmm" | 01:12 |
| mhz | on the other hand, Tango and red Clearlooks is pretty cool | 01:12 |
| HedgeMage | hi mhz, Burgundavia | 01:20 |
| mhz | hi HedgeMage | 01:21 |
| HedgeMage | what's up? | 01:21 |
| Burgundavia | not much | 01:22 |
| mhz | .oO(hmm, default Edubuntu desktop is still to heavy for my machines...:( ) | 02:00 |
| === mhz will be forced to use an alternative like XFCE or Wmaker or Fluxbox again | ||
| Burgundavia | highvoltage is planning on using xubuntu in his tuxlab projects | 02:01 |
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| mhz_restartingX | Burgundavia: tuxlab? | 02:01 |
| mhz_restartingX | oh, yeah | 02:01 |
| mhz_restartingX | sorry | 02:01 |
| mhz_restartingX | I thought you were part of tuxlab :) | 02:01 |
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| mhz | yeah, xfce seems to be user firendly enough as a replacement for GNOME | 02:10 |
| mhz | but still not very light enough | 02:10 |
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| mhz | .oO(wow! fluxbox is definately really fast | 02:18 |
| Amaranth | It's easy to be fast when you don't do anything. | 02:27 |
| mhz | Amaranth: what you mean? | 02:35 |
| Amaranth | mhz: Fluxbox is fast but doesn't do as much | 02:36 |
| Amaranth | of course i'm comparing a window manager to a full desktop environment | 02:36 |
| mhz | oh, sure. That's the idea. Use resources only when needed | 02:36 |
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| === mhz is now using xubuntu for Edubuntu desktop | ||
| mhz | I have set xubuntu to run as similar as possible to GNOME edubuntu defaults | 03:38 |
| mhz | Could we set an option for Edubuntu school admins so that if they need lighter desktop they can choose something like edubuntu-xfce-environment ? | 03:39 |
| mhz | and this will donwload xubuntu for them but with edubuntu defaults | 03:39 |
| === mhz "sees dead people" | ||
| crimsun | everyone's still on holiday | 03:41 |
| mhz | oh, yeah | 03:43 |
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| ncaller | I am a kubuntu/dapper user who is very interested in deploying edubuntu in an LTSP environment for a small private school. Is this currently possible, I will also say that I am in the process now of reading your faqs / wiki so it may be covered in there in which case I will find it as I read it | 03:46 |
| mhz | ncaller, hi there | 03:48 |
| HedgeMage | hi ncaller | 03:49 |
| mhz | hehehe, indeed | 03:49 |
| ncaller | howdy what's happening | 03:49 |
| mhz | ncaller: yup, absolutely possible, I'd say. | 03:49 |
| ncaller | is anyone doing it that you know of? | 03:49 |
| HedgeMage | LTSP is a very common setup for edubuntu, so common that it's right in our installer :) | 03:49 |
| ncaller | aha | 03:49 |
| ncaller | excellent | 03:49 |
| mhz | ncaller: Edubuntu is aimed to work out-of-the-box | 03:49 |
| HedgeMage | (I haven't played with it much here, but others have) | 03:50 |
| ncaller | well I will be downloading and testing it shortly | 03:50 |
| ncaller | one question I think will be interesting to answer is if a lot of preowned educational software packages (commercial) will run under wine/dosemu/winex whatever | 03:50 |
| mhz | That is, it will provide you with LTSP + Ubuntu + tons of Edu apps + wallpapers for Edubuntu purposes (diff ages end-users) + | 03:50 |
| ncaller | awesome | 03:50 |
| mhz | community support | 03:51 |
| mhz | Regarding, non-GPL'ed apps... well, no idea | 03:51 |
| ncaller | I was working with someone last summer on his K12/LTSP setup using CentOS, but I have to say that a debian/ubuntu based distro for school'ing is very nice especially from a management point of view | 03:51 |
| mhz | But if Kubuntu lets you run on Wine/whatever | 03:51 |
| mhz | then, sure | 03:51 |
| mhz | I am not sure about the performance of Wine or similar apps. under LTSP environment | 03:52 |
| ncaller | what is the edubuntu status of working with SMBLDAP for integrating with Windows Domains? | 03:52 |
| ncaller | yes neither am I | 03:52 |
| mhz | However, as the load of work is for the server to take, if your server is powerful enough, then sure. | 03:52 |
| HedgeMage | sorry to run, but TT needs me :) | 03:53 |
| HedgeMage | bbl | 03:53 |
| mhz | HedgeMage: bye | 03:53 |
| === HedgeMage waves | ||
| HedgeMage | hope to see you in here often, ncaller | 03:53 |
| HedgeMage | :) | 03:53 |
| ncaller | fortunately the school I'll be implementing this for currently has no computer resources so there is not really an issue to integrate with old windows software I was just curious | 03:53 |
| ncaller | yes will do | 03:53 |
| ncaller | later | 03:53 |
| mhz | ncaller: I once participated in the setting of Ubuntu (hoary!) with LDAP. I have not done it with SAMBA but I guess it will work | 03:54 |
| mhz | ncaller: LTSP is a great resource esp. for schools with old hardware | 03:54 |
| ncaller | when we did it on CentOS last year it was a nightmare, CentOS is a redhat-logo-name-removed redhat enterprise spinoff which you probably knew | 03:54 |
| ncaller | yes | 03:54 |
| mhz | They still get new versions of edu apps (linux ones) | 03:55 |
| ncaller | right | 03:55 |
| ncaller | the setup's I have seen have all used old PC's usually with pizzabox style cases for the terminals with their cd's and harddrive's removed, basically bought as cheap as possible. But I have seen a limited amount of the LTSP terminals deployed | 03:56 |
| mhz | so far, I have tested Edubuntu (since Breezy) in about 3 diff environments (old hardware) and it has always worked just perfectly | 03:56 |
| ncaller | they are a bit pricy compared to what you can get an old PC for at the moment though | 03:56 |
| ncaller | though they look nice | 03:56 |
| mhz | yup, indeed | 03:56 |
| ncaller | would be great if you could get an LTSP term for even $100 | 03:57 |
| mhz | In my last edubuntu install (1 server + 6 worksations) we set BIOS to boot via PXE 1st. And if teacher needs better performance (let's say TuxMath or other games), then all stations have edubuntu-worksations install | 03:57 |
| mhz | well, AFAIK, there's a case of success in Mexico | 03:58 |
| mhz | let me get you the URL | 03:58 |
| ncaller | thanks | 03:58 |
| mhz | they did get it very cheap | 03:58 |
| === mhz means "let me get you.." = "will try to..." | ||
| mhz | :) | 03:58 |
| ncaller | the place I worked at last summer had a lab of I think 60-70 term's running K12LTSP/CentOS, plus every other computer on the network in the school (about 300) dual booted 98 or XP / and linux | 03:59 |
| ncaller | they had 4 existing Term servers, plus we built one more | 03:59 |
| mhz | ncaller: http://manueldublan.org/computerlab/ | 03:59 |
| mhz | ncaller: all happy users? | 04:00 |
| ncaller | yes | 04:00 |
| mhz | ncaller: all happy admins? | 04:00 |
| ncaller | only one tech admin, and yes | 04:00 |
| mhz | .oO(that must have been a nice experience to see) | 04:00 |
| ncaller | the school administration loves the fact that the cost is very cheap | 04:00 |
| ncaller | brb | 04:01 |
| mhz | yeah, schools should focus not on investing so much on computers but more on level of education and diff alternatives for students | 04:01 |
| mhz | Amaranth: xubuntu for edubuntu, is so far less expensive on same hardware and same apps. running at same time | 04:03 |
| mhz | (we'll see in next hours) | 04:03 |
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| ulinskie | good morning | 04:12 |
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| ajayc | Amaranth, hi | 04:30 |
| Amaranth | err, hi | 04:31 |
| ajayc | Amaranth, u indian? | 04:31 |
| Amaranth | nope | 04:31 |
| ajayc | ahh ok | 04:31 |
| Amaranth | although i'm told my nick means "forever ranting" in hindi | 04:31 |
| Amaranth | i think i've been lied to | 04:33 |
| ncaller | that link story was good, I'll keep it in my ammo bin | 04:33 |
| ulinskie | hi adhoc, Amaranth | 04:35 |
| mhz | guys, anyone has had trouble editing Grub menu.lst ? | 04:40 |
| ajayc | no | 04:40 |
| ajayc | :P | 04:40 |
| mhz | I edit it and tell it to read /dev/hda2, save it, update-grub, reopen it and still says /dev/hdc2 instead :( | 04:40 |
| ajayc | why update-grub? | 04:41 |
| ajayc | just edit and save | 04:41 |
| ajayc | rest it will do itself | 04:41 |
| ajayc | just edit and save | 04:41 |
| mhz | ooh | 04:43 |
| === mhz thought grub works just like yaboot and others | ||
| ajayc | nope mhz | 04:44 |
| mhz | ajayc: okis, thx a lot for that important clarification | 04:45 |
| mhz | for a moment I thought I was crazy | 04:45 |
| ajayc | lol | 04:45 |
| ajayc | np | 04:45 |
| mhz | :D | 04:45 |
| ajayc | btw u can come and hangout at #worlddomination | 04:46 |
| mhz | ajayc: heheh, and what is that for? | 04:48 |
| === mhz feels it has to do something with overtaking the power | ||
| mhz | via Linux | 04:48 |
| mhz | or something regarding "Kill Bill" (gates) distro | 04:49 |
| ajayc | nope | 04:49 |
| ajayc | well it was my channek for mydsitro | 04:49 |
| mhz | your distro? | 04:49 |
| ajayc | which i dropped cos i wasalone and it was gettin difficult | 04:49 |
| mhz | yeah, that happens | 04:49 |
| ajayc | btw it was gentoo based | 04:49 |
| mhz | but dont worry "we are not alone" | 04:49 |
| ajayc | but i got many friends there | 04:50 |
| === mhz loves Gentoo | ||
| ajayc | nice place | 04:50 |
| ajayc | if u ever want buddies come to #worlddomination ;) | 04:50 |
| mhz | it's incredible how Gentoo can make people either just hate it or love it, no in-between-feelings | 04:50 |
| mhz | thx | 04:50 |
| ajayc | yup true | 04:51 |
| ajayc | u coming now? | 04:51 |
| ajayc | or later? | 04:51 |
| mhz | okis | 04:51 |
| Laser_away | Gentoo is great, I just think Ubuntu is greater :-) | 04:53 |
| ajayc | depends | 04:53 |
| ajayc | :P | 04:53 |
| mhz | Laser_away: hehehehe | 04:54 |
| mhz | you are away | 04:54 |
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| mhz | oh, not fair! | 04:54 |
| ajayc | lol | 04:55 |
| mhz | LaserJock: I was with mdke in #moin yesterday. We were told Ubuntu = the distro you get when you can't install Debian | 04:55 |
| mhz | :D | 04:55 |
| LaserJock | doh | 04:56 |
| mhz | of course, it was a joke from the person who said it | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | Ubuntu = the distro when you want Debian to work and look nice ;-) | 04:56 |
| mhz | LOL | 04:56 |
| ajayc | gentoo= the distro that WORKS :D | 04:56 |
| mhz | rofl!!! | 04:56 |
| ajayc | puppy: NO BLOAT JUST LINUX | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | ajayc: if it compiles ;-) | 04:56 |
| ajayc | if it gotta work it gotta compile :P | 04:57 |
| === mhz still laughin | ||
| LaserJock | ajayc: it was a whole lot more bloated then Ubuntu for me | 04:57 |
| ajayc | gentoo> | 04:57 |
| LaserJock | but it really depends | 04:57 |
| ajayc | yup it does ubuntu is not beautiful though BROWN eww | 04:57 |
| LaserJock | so far I really haven't had a time where Gentoo worked better for me than Ubuntu, but it is my second choice for sure | 04:57 |
| ajayc | sometimes look like ahem ... shit | 04:58 |
| ajayc | :P | 04:58 |
| ajayc | :D | 04:58 |
| LaserJock | ajayc: the brown is cool, I like it | 04:58 |
| ajayc | i like it now | 04:58 |
| LaserJock | but I change it if I want to | 04:58 |
| ajayc | its shiny now | 04:58 |
| === mhz still uses Gentoo LiveCd#1 as his best option for rescue CD or live text mode | ||
| LaserJock | yeah, Dapper colors look better to me than Breezy | 04:58 |
| mhz | indeed | 04:59 |
| ajayc | btw come to other channel LaserJock ask mhz i gotta leave cya | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | other channel? | 04:59 |
| mhz | LaserJock: any idea if ESA is ready to be used? | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | mhz: I think cbx33 is putting in screenshots tomorrow and finalizing | 04:59 |
| mhz | oh, so text is good to use then? | 05:00 |
| mhz | to be used | 05:00 |
| === mhz still thinking in spanish | ||
| ajayc | #worlddomination | 05:00 |
| LaserJock | the Applications section is still a little in flux | 05:00 |
| ajayc | :D | 05:00 |
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| ch1p | hello | 08:29 |
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| ch1p | hey | 08:29 |
| ch1p | anyone here | 08:30 |
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| highvoltage | cbx33: ping | 01:41 |
| === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ | ||
| highvoltage | cbx33: i'm /pm'ing you the link to that theme | 01:42 |
| cbx33 | Excellent | 01:48 |
| cbx33 | thanks highvoltage | 01:48 |
| cbx33 | I'll try to ghet that sorted out later on today | 01:51 |
| cbx33 | got loads to do today | 01:51 |
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| cbx33 | I think I found a bug in Keduca | 02:13 |
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| pygi | hey all | 03:07 |
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| cbx33 | bb in about 2 hours | 03:41 |
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| rocks | how do you conncet a usb web cam | 04:38 |
| highvoltage | via a usb port, i would presume :) | 04:39 |
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| highvoltage | jsgotangco: so, next month we meet :) | 04:56 |
| jsgotangco | wiigiiii | 04:56 |
| jsgotangco | err | 04:56 |
| jsgotangco | wohoooo | 04:56 |
| highvoltage | :) | 04:56 |
| jsgotangco | yeah should be fun | 04:57 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 04:57 |
| === highvoltage thought you just got excited about a new nintendo machine | ||
| jsgotangco | wii!!! | 04:57 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 04:57 |
| highvoltage | hehe | 04:57 |
| jsgotangco | although i'll be flying for 15 hours to get to paris | 04:57 |
| highvoltage | i think it'll be about 10 hours for me | 04:58 |
| jsgotangco | whoa | 04:58 |
| jsgotangco | africa is pretty big anyway | 04:58 |
| highvoltage | and probably 2 hours for ogra :) | 04:58 |
| highvoltage | yeah, and i live on the tip right at the bottom | 04:58 |
| jsgotangco | but you wont be adjusting to the timezone he | 04:58 |
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| highvoltage | paris is an hour behind my timezone, but yeah, no adjusting should be necassary | 04:59 |
| jsgotangco | heh im 6 hours ahead | 04:59 |
| highvoltage | i bought a book/cd on how to speak french, listening to it while i drive. i'm not sure how much engrish they speak there | 05:00 |
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| jsgotangco | maybe i should do that too | 05:00 |
| jsgotangco | actually i still need to get a shengen visa | 05:00 |
| cbx33 | hi jsgotangco | 05:01 |
| cbx33 | hey highvoltage | 05:01 |
| jsgotangco | hey | 05:01 |
| cbx33 | just about to look at that css | 05:01 |
| highvoltage | hi cbx33 | 05:02 |
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| phos | what browser does edubuntu ship with? | 05:16 |
| crimsun | as in Web browser? -desktop depends on firefox | 05:17 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: did you take the exam? | 05:17 |
| jsgotangco | phos: firefox | 05:17 |
| phos | has it been suggested to create a kiosk version | 05:18 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: yep | 05:18 |
| jsgotangco | phos: not yet | 05:18 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: how was it? | 05:18 |
| highvoltage | it was okay | 05:19 |
| highvoltage | i had some gripes with it, but they had a session afterwards where we could give feedback | 05:19 |
| jsgotangco | what was it like? desktop focused? | 05:19 |
| highvoltage | LPI is great like that, they continually improve their exams | 05:19 |
| phos | i think it would be nice to see something like that | 05:20 |
| jsgotangco | phos: kiosk mode on what? just firefox? | 05:20 |
| jsgotangco | you can do that with pessulus | 05:20 |
| phos | yeah? | 05:21 |
| cbx33 | highvoltage, you took LPIC ? | 05:21 |
| phos | i must take a look at that | 05:21 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: problem is, you have to sign a form at the exam where you promise not to discuss the contents of the test :/ | 05:21 |
| jsgotangco | cbx33: no he took the Ubuntu exam | 05:21 |
| jsgotangco | mehhhh | 05:21 |
| cbx33 | oooooh | 05:21 |
| === cbx33 wants to do that | ||
| jsgotangco | cbx33: jo'burg was the first to give an exam during linuxworld | 05:21 |
| highvoltage | this is the test objectives though: http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/certification/pro | 05:21 |
| jsgotangco | phos: there's also sabayon but it is focused on profiles, pessulus is more on locking down gnome itself | 05:22 |
| cbx33 | oooh | 05:22 |
| phos | yeah, i imagined something along the lines of a restricted profile | 05:23 |
| === jsgotangco is not really an exam person | ||
| jsgotangco | phos: yeah you should look into pessulus then | 05:23 |
| === highvoltage neither | ||
| phos | i will do | 05:23 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 05:23 |
| jsgotangco | phos: hopefully, the next relesae for edubuntu will be shiny with such features | 05:23 |
| cbx33 | well i do better in coursework | 05:23 |
| jsgotangco | grr opera still doesn't play nice on gdebi | 05:25 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: could you figure anything out on that theme? i didn't expect it to be easy. what are you planning on doing? | 05:26 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: updating it to 4.7.0, a re-write, or apply it to another theme? | 05:27 |
| cbx33 | highvoltage, just looking at it now | 05:27 |
| cbx33 | highvoltage, you know this doc move on the wiki | 05:30 |
| cbx33 | wyhat's that gonna mean for people who aren't memebrs of the doc team, but need to update their documents? | 05:31 |
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| highvoltage | cbx33: i'm not sure, i'm not 100% updated on the doc 'move' | 05:33 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: who's moving what at the moment? | 05:33 |
| cbx33 | I'm not sure | 05:33 |
| cbx33 | it's gonna play havoc with my UbuntuLTSP idea though | 05:34 |
| === cbx33 is confused | ||
| cbx33 | in that case I'd need to become a member of the doc team, | 05:34 |
| cbx33 | are we having a seperate edubuntu doc team? | 05:34 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: i don't think you need to worry about that too much though | 05:34 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: edubuntu-doc has been kind of seperate | 05:35 |
| cbx33 | highvoltage, could you pm me that link again? | 05:35 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: but i think it would be ideal to have both working together | 05:35 |
| highvoltage | sure | 05:35 |
| cbx33 | yeh, but ogra was keen on me making the LTSP stuff ubutu generic, which I have been trying to do | 05:35 |
| cbx33 | sorry, I'm on another computer now :p | 05:35 |
| cbx33 | have my drupal system all setup | 05:35 |
| highvoltage | sent | 05:35 |
| highvoltage | i think you should continue doing that | 05:36 |
| highvoltage | if and when any move takes place, it would be better if everything is organised to start off with. | 05:36 |
| cbx33 | yes | 05:37 |
| highvoltage | i think what corey suggested (it was late when i read the conversation), is that we have a page similar to http://doc.ubuntu.com | 05:37 |
| cbx33 | well I'm trying :p | 05:37 |
| jsgotangco | in drupal? | 05:38 |
| jsgotangco | its not really complicated in drupal | 05:38 |
| jsgotangco | the trick is how to make it look not like drupal heh | 05:38 |
| highvoltage | jsgotangco: exactly ;) | 05:38 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm java | 05:39 |
| cbx33 | jsgotangco, no, I'm trying to pul all the LTSP stuff together | 05:39 |
| jsgotangco | cbx33: good luck if you're using moin | 05:39 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 05:40 |
| cbx33 | I am | 05:40 |
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| cbx33 | highvoltage, do you know where the current theme setting is set? | 05:40 |
| cbx33 | so i can change it when it breaks :p | 05:40 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: sff breaks drupal so badly, that you can't even change back | 05:41 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: (not from within drupal anyway) | 05:41 |
| cbx33 | yeh | 05:41 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: so ln -s is your friend :) | 05:41 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 05:41 |
| highvoltage | mv edubuntu to something like edubuntu-bak | 05:41 |
| highvoltage | then ln -s one of the other themes to edubuntu | 05:41 |
| cbx33 | ok I was looking through the mysql database | 05:41 |
| cbx33 | highvoltage, how does it break on the server? | 05:45 |
| cbx33 | just goes blank doesn't it? | 05:45 |
| cbx33 | highvoltage, you're not at work now are you? | 05:46 |
| jsgotangco | its sunday | 05:46 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 05:46 |
| cbx33 | he popped in this morning | 05:46 |
| cbx33 | didn't know if he'd gone home yet | 05:46 |
| cbx33 | jsgotangco, if i wanted to include images in a docbook | 05:47 |
| cbx33 | can i have them sit next to one another like in tables? | 05:47 |
| jsgotangco | no | 05:47 |
| cbx33 | thought not | 05:47 |
| cbx33 | hmm..... | 05:48 |
| jsgotangco | docbook is not meant to format | 05:48 |
| cbx33 | no i know | 05:48 |
| jsgotangco | it just shows the data | 05:48 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: yes, just goes blank | 05:48 |
| cbx33 | highvoltage, must be something up with your specific setup | 05:48 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: no, it's too cold outside, so i'm at home :) | 05:48 |
| cbx33 | as it works here | 05:48 |
| cbx33 | I was goign to sk for a zip of the drupal folder | 05:48 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: does the edubuntu theme work with your version of drupal? | 05:48 |
| cbx33 | and the database :p | 05:49 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: what version of drupal are you using? | 05:49 |
| cbx33 | yes ... to an extent | 05:49 |
| cbx33 | there are some css issues to resolve but it definitely doesnt break | 05:49 |
| highvoltage | interesting. since they warn you that what happens to me would definitely happen on drupal 4.7.0+ | 05:50 |
| cbx33 | highvoltage, tbh i think it's a php warning | 05:50 |
| highvoltage | what version of drupal are you using, cbx33? | 05:50 |
| cbx33 | 4.7 | 05:50 |
| cbx33 | 4.7.0 | 05:51 |
| cbx33 | to be exact | 05:51 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: do you have any idea if what we will be having in shipit is the text install or workstaion live? | 05:51 |
| cbx33 | text install...iirc | 05:51 |
| jsgotangco | cool its only right to give 5 max then | 05:52 |
| jsgotangco | hmm i hope we can have some in paris | 05:52 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 05:52 |
| highvoltage | i think it's the text install too, but you'll have to wait for a response from ogra to know for sure | 05:52 |
| cbx33 | am i right in thinking tuxtype has been removed from edbutu? | 05:55 |
| cbx33 | highvoltage, how do you want me to proceed with the css edubutnu issue ? | 05:56 |
| cbx33 | i think it may be due to the directory structure | 05:56 |
| cbx33 | for example there is an admin folder on your system, but there is not in 4.7 | 05:57 |
| jsgotangco | cbx33: i dont have it either now | 05:57 |
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| cbx33 | one less screenshot to do | 05:57 |
| jsgotangco | cbx33: well you have to know why its not there anymore | 05:58 |
| cbx33 | true, i remember someone saying it had been removed before, vaguely, might have been ogra | 05:59 |
| cbx33 | but i have no way of checking now, and the ESA deadline is supposed to be today | 05:59 |
| jsgotangco | its only 1 line :) | 06:00 |
| cbx33 | true | 06:00 |
| cbx33 | but | 06:00 |
| cbx33 | think i shoujld remove it or wait? | 06:00 |
| jsgotangco | comment it heh | 06:00 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 06:00 |
| cbx33 | how do you comment in docbook :p | 06:01 |
| jsgotangco | just like how you comment html | 06:01 |
| cbx33 | ok | 06:01 |
| jsgotangco | nice the java 5 debs work well | 06:02 |
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| cbx33 | jsgotangco, how do you suggest handling the screenshots in the ESA? | 06:03 |
| jsgotangco | have you seen the TakingScreenshots wiki? | 06:03 |
| cbx33 | yes | 06:03 |
| cbx33 | and i have followed that to get my screnshots | 06:03 |
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| jsgotangco | that shold be enough but if you find it big, just resize them | 06:04 |
| jsgotangco | because you're discussing a whole application | 06:04 |
| cbx33 | ok | 06:04 |
| cbx33 | I have 5.3Mb worth of png | 06:04 |
| jsgotangco | if you were discussing a feature of an application, you would focus on the feature instaed of showng the whole image | 06:04 |
| cbx33 | i'm gonna run pngcrush on them now | 06:04 |
| cbx33 | jsgotangco, true | 06:04 |
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| Yagisan | G'day all | 06:05 |
| cbx33 | hi Yagisan | 06:05 |
| highvoltage | hey Yagisan | 06:05 |
| cbx33 | highvoltage, so, where do we go from here with the css.. | 06:06 |
| cbx33 | think we need to create from scratch? | 06:06 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: well, it works on your side, doesn't it? | 06:06 |
| cbx33 | yes | 06:06 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: you mentioned some minor issues, what were they? can you put up some screenshots somewhere and send me the link? | 06:07 |
| cbx33 | but as i said earlier | 06:07 |
| cbx33 | sure | 06:07 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: i can then check tomorrow morning what that looks like | 06:07 |
| cbx33 | but i think our installations are different | 06:07 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: otherwise we start with another theme end edubuntufy that | 06:07 |
| cbx33 | i think your problem is a php problem | 06:07 |
| cbx33 | that's why it results in a blank page | 06:08 |
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| cbx33 | i still think it'll break in your installation | 06:10 |
| highvoltage | unfortunately we can't play around on this server, it's a canonical server where lots of other ubuntu pages are served from as well. so if we change php settings, we might break some of the other sites :/ | 06:12 |
| jsgotangco | yeahhh!!!! | 06:13 |
| cbx33 | yes, | 06:13 |
| cbx33 | probably the problem was it was "upgraded" as opposed to installed from scratch | 06:13 |
| highvoltage | the server, or drupal? | 06:14 |
| cbx33 | drupal | 06:14 |
| highvoltage | drupal was installed in pretty much the same way you did it | 06:14 |
| cbx33 | what from scratch? | 06:14 |
| cbx33 | oh | 06:14 |
| highvoltage | the old copy was moved away, and then a new drupal installation was installed, with the old ones db | 06:14 |
| cbx33 | hmm.....then what could possibly be the problem | 06:14 |
| cbx33 | ahh | 06:15 |
| cbx33 | ok | 06:15 |
| highvoltage | heh, #drupal and #drupal-themes say it's definately the sff theme :/ | 06:15 |
| cbx33 | is it possible to copy the new one, | 06:15 |
| cbx33 | yeh? | 06:15 |
| highvoltage | perhaps you should send them a screenshot with your working copy :) | 06:15 |
| cbx33 | ok | 06:15 |
| cbx33 | http://www.progbox.co.uk/screenie.png | 06:17 |
| cbx33 | but remember that was with a fresh database | 06:17 |
| phos | sff? | 06:18 |
| cbx33 | but it does work | 06:19 |
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| cbx33 | heheh | 06:24 |
| cbx33 | Bill has been linked to the Dark Prince :p | 06:24 |
| Yagisan | cbx33: I thought he *was* the Dark Prince | 06:25 |
| cbx33 | :p | 06:25 |
| Yagisan | cbx33: I recall having you listed as a tester for doomsday, yet I've not heard a peep from you | 06:27 |
| cbx33 | Yagisan, true, I've been so busy with ESA and other ubu stuff, I havn't had a chance yet | 06:27 |
| cbx33 | I have a while today to do stuff so, I'll try my best to do it today | 06:27 |
| cbx33 | I think I'll nee | 06:28 |
| cbx33 | d a little help | 06:28 |
| Yagisan | cbx33: no worries | 06:28 |
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| cbx33 | highvoltage, did you see that imafge? | 06:29 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: probably not, lost my connection there for a while | 06:30 |
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| highvoltage | cbx33: btw, i can get it to display a page with that theme, but there's no menu to the right | 06:30 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: do you see the menu's at the right as well? | 06:30 |
| cbx33 | highvoltage, no | 06:31 |
| cbx33 | ah ok | 06:31 |
| cbx33 | looks like a redo of the theme may be the only solution | 06:32 |
| highvoltage | yep | 06:32 |
| cbx33 | crushed png's mean only 2.5 Mb of images now | 06:32 |
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| highvoltage | ouch | 07:03 |
| spacey | god the wiki is slow | 07:04 |
| Yagisan | yep. It would help if I had access to a Mac too. I hope Darwin is close enough | 07:04 |
| spacey | Yagisan: what kind of system? :) | 07:04 |
| Yagisan | spacey: build system. 1 project, 3 different ways to build it, none in sync | 07:05 |
| ompaul | Yagisan, cos you have (a) python (b) see (a) | 07:05 |
| spacey | ah | 07:05 |
| spacey | sounds like a pain in the ass | 07:06 |
| Yagisan | it is, but it should be worth it in the end | 07:06 |
| Yagisan | ompaul: I already started on autotools. I figure if I'm going to torture myself with WIn/Mac, I may as well add DOS for shits and giggles | 07:08 |
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| Yagisan | ompaul: it would be amusing actually. Making a DOS port would return the project to it's roots. | 07:10 |
| ompaul | a freedos port I could understand but dos .... | 07:10 |
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| cbx33 | brb | 07:12 |
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| Yagisan | ompaul: I do have a copy of OS/2 around somewhere. That's a challenge waiting to happen. Step 1, find something it installs in (if that is still possible). | 07:18 |
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| cbx33 | hey Burgundavia | 09:46 |
| cbx33 | I've been working on some images for ESA | 09:46 |
| cbx33 | could I run them by you if you have a second | 09:46 |
| Burgundavia | cool | 09:47 |
| Burgundavia | sure | 09:47 |
| Yagisan | hmm, the darwin installer makes the old debian installer seem very user friendly | 09:53 |
| cbx33 | ok hang onI'll tar them | 09:53 |
| cbx33 | http://www.progbox.co.uk/schooladvo.tar.gz | 09:55 |
| Burgundavia | cbx33, looks good. I am a little concerned about the length of the OO ones | 09:56 |
| cbx33 | think it's too long? | 09:59 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | think we shuld skip an app? | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | looks ok in yelp | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | just outta interest | 10:02 |
| Burgundavia | sure | 10:03 |
| Burgundavia | the screenshots only show an idea, they are not to be studied that closely | 10:03 |
| cbx33 | true | 10:03 |
| cbx33 | ok | 10:03 |
| cbx33 | i was hoping they'd be links to BIGGER versions | 10:03 |
| cbx33 | on the wiki at least | 10:03 |
| Burgundavia | this doc is not ideally designed to be on the web | 10:04 |
| cbx33 | no I know | 10:04 |
| cbx33 | drupal? | 10:04 |
| Burgundavia | we can adapt its contents to the edubuntu website, but I think it is better as a handout | 10:04 |
| cbx33 | oh sure | 10:04 |
| cbx33 | we could always make a link to the pdf | 10:05 |
| cbx33 | I chatted to mdke about the rosetta idea yesterday, hope you don;t mind | 10:05 |
| cbx33 | he said probably the best way would be to make it a product | 10:05 |
| cbx33 | I was thinking about lulu for printing it? what do you think? | 10:06 |
| cbx33 | getting a few done to see how they look | 10:06 |
| Yagisan | argh, I can see the sun rising | 10:11 |
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| Burgundavia | it is too small to have lulu print it | 10:11 |
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| Burgundavia | if this is a product guide, you can probably get it printed locally for cheaper | 10:12 |
| CuriousG | What's the proper way of getting Edubuntu to work with two NICs? | 10:14 |
| Burgundavia | what do you want to do? | 10:15 |
| CuriousG | I'd like to keep the LTSP traffic onto one NIC and the other NIC access Internet | 10:16 |
| Burgundavia | if you bind the dhcp server to one, you are good | 10:17 |
| CuriousG | I think by default it uses eth0 for the DHCP server | 10:17 |
| CuriousG | Seem to have problems booting thin clients too. | 10:19 |
| CuriousG | One time I got out of range on LCD | 10:19 |
| CuriousG | Other times it came up but had no mouse | 10:19 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, I am not the person to ask about that | 10:19 |
| Burgundavia | I have actually never installed Edubuntu | 10:19 |
| CuriousG | keyboard worked but entered in user and password and it came back to the login prompt again | 10:20 |
| Burgundavia | A record I am quite proud of | 10:20 |
| CuriousG | heh, funny that you're in this channel then | 10:20 |
| CuriousG | Took a while to figure out that the Desktop version isn't what you want if you want thin clients | 10:20 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia, lulu will print brochures | 10:20 |
| Burgundavia | don't get me wrong, I use Ubuntu everywhere. I have just never played with edubuntu | 10:20 |
| Burgundavia | cbx33, is it cheaper than you can locally? | 10:21 |
| CuriousG | I like how the desktop feel is in Ubuntu than Skolelinux but Skolelinux has been much more trouble free | 10:21 |
| Burgundavia | skolelinux is an older project | 10:21 |
| CuriousG | Sure it is older but they have a 2.0r0 out about 2 months ago | 10:22 |
| CuriousG | So it is fairly current | 10:22 |
| CuriousG | I don't want to download 5 or 6 CDs just to try out K12LTSP | 10:22 |
| Burgundavia | what I meant by older is that they have been around for longer | 10:22 |
| CuriousG | Wondering if they have daily builds | 10:23 |
| Burgundavia | edubuntu? | 10:23 |
| CuriousG | I know edubuntu does I just finished downloading it | 10:24 |
| CuriousG | skole | 10:24 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia, so if I edit that last image | 10:24 |
| cbx33 | can you upload them to the images folder? | 10:24 |
| Burgundavia | yep, can do | 10:25 |
| cbx33 | or find me svn access :p | 10:25 |
| CuriousG | I think they have rsync builds | 10:25 |
| Burgundavia | I wouldn't hold your breath until after dapper releases | 10:26 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 10:26 |
| cbx33 | I was kidding | 10:26 |
| Burgundavia | I think elmo is currently in mexico, holding yet another tattered network together with sheer sweat | 10:26 |
| CuriousG | that's less than 2wks unless they plan on retooling some other things | 10:27 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 10:27 |
| Burgundavia | no, Ubuntu should release on time, pending nuclear warfare or the end of the world | 10:27 |
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| Laser_away | I doubt even the end of the world would matter, I imagine elmo, mdz and Keybuck have escape pods with backup archives on some satellite ;-) | 10:38 |
| Burgundavia | indeed | 10:39 |
| cbx33 | Laser_away, you there? | 10:53 |
| Laser_away | cbx33: no :( | 10:55 |
| Burgundavia | cbx33, anything I can help you with? | 10:56 |
| cbx33 | was just gonna ask Laser_away if the images would tie in with his idea for the applications section | 10:57 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia, I've modified the xml to include the images | 10:57 |
| cbx33 | if I tar the whole thing up can you add it to the repo? | 10:57 |
| Burgundavia | can you send me a patch and the images? | 10:57 |
| cbx33 | ok will do | 10:57 |
| cbx33 | i think we are missing one app | 11:03 |
| cbx33 | and have one that isn't there anymore | 11:03 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia, that link to that tar shuld now contain a new archive with crushed png's and a diff | 11:16 |
| Burgundavia | ok, looking now | 11:18 |
| cbx33 | cheers | 11:18 |
| cbx33 | think we'll be ready for freeze tonight? | 11:18 |
| cbx33 | :S | 11:18 |
| Burgundavia | if by tonight you mean UTC, I don't know | 11:19 |
| Burgundavia | if by tonight you mean UTC-7, likely | 11:19 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 11:21 |
| cbx33 | well the original deadlin was 1hr 40 mins away | 11:21 |
| Burgundavia | done | 11:25 |
| cbx33 | excellent | 11:25 |
| Burgundavia | we are lacking css for the html and xslt to make pdfs out of it | 11:28 |
| cbx33 | Burgundavia, ok | 11:29 |
| cbx33 | I've never done the xslt | 11:29 |
| cbx33 | but I can look at it | 11:29 |
| cbx33 | remeber that because it's gogn tbe a pamphlet | 11:30 |
| cbx33 | we could always use the pamphlet as the pdf | 11:30 |
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