=== dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-82-118.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-82-118.houston.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] === mhz [n=mhz@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:56] hi all === cbx33 [n=prochat1@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:03] salut mhz [01:10] Burgundavia: salut === mhz is very comfortable with Edubuntu Dapper GUI settings [01:12] just this chalkboard wallpaper is a little 'hmmm, how should i put it...hmmm, errr, hmm" [01:12] on the other hand, Tango and red Clearlooks is pretty cool [01:20] hi mhz, Burgundavia [01:21] hi HedgeMage [01:21] what's up? [01:22] not much [02:00] .oO(hmm, default Edubuntu desktop is still to heavy for my machines...:( ) === mhz will be forced to use an alternative like XFCE or Wmaker or Fluxbox again [02:01] highvoltage is planning on using xubuntu in his tuxlab projects === mhz is now known as mhz_restartingX [02:01] Burgundavia: tuxlab? [02:01] oh, yeah [02:01] sorry [02:01] I thought you were part of tuxlab :) === mhz_restartingX BRB === mhz [n=mhz@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:10] yeah, xfce seems to be user firendly enough as a replacement for GNOME [02:10] but still not very light enough === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [02:18] .oO(wow! fluxbox is definately really fast [02:27] It's easy to be fast when you don't do anything. [02:35] Amaranth: what you mean? [02:36] mhz: Fluxbox is fast but doesn't do as much [02:36] of course i'm comparing a window manager to a full desktop environment [02:36] oh, sure. That's the idea. Use resources only when needed === superset1 [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === mhz loves 4-in-a-row === superset2 [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_restartingX === mhz [n=mhz@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now using xubuntu for Edubuntu desktop [03:38] I have set xubuntu to run as similar as possible to GNOME edubuntu defaults [03:39] Could we set an option for Edubuntu school admins so that if they need lighter desktop they can choose something like edubuntu-xfce-environment ? [03:39] and this will donwload xubuntu for them but with edubuntu defaults === mhz "sees dead people" [03:41] everyone's still on holiday [03:43] oh, yeah === ncaller [i=nightcal@scrapshells.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:46] I am a kubuntu/dapper user who is very interested in deploying edubuntu in an LTSP environment for a small private school. Is this currently possible, I will also say that I am in the process now of reading your faqs / wiki so it may be covered in there in which case I will find it as I read it [03:48] ncaller, hi there [03:49] hi ncaller [03:49] hehehe, indeed [03:49] howdy what's happening [03:49] ncaller: yup, absolutely possible, I'd say. [03:49] is anyone doing it that you know of? [03:49] LTSP is a very common setup for edubuntu, so common that it's right in our installer :) [03:49] aha [03:49] excellent [03:49] ncaller: Edubuntu is aimed to work out-of-the-box [03:50] (I haven't played with it much here, but others have) [03:50] well I will be downloading and testing it shortly [03:50] one question I think will be interesting to answer is if a lot of preowned educational software packages (commercial) will run under wine/dosemu/winex whatever [03:50] That is, it will provide you with LTSP + Ubuntu + tons of Edu apps + wallpapers for Edubuntu purposes (diff ages end-users) + [03:50] awesome [03:51] community support [03:51] Regarding, non-GPL'ed apps... well, no idea [03:51] I was working with someone last summer on his K12/LTSP setup using CentOS, but I have to say that a debian/ubuntu based distro for school'ing is very nice especially from a management point of view [03:51] But if Kubuntu lets you run on Wine/whatever [03:51] then, sure [03:52] I am not sure about the performance of Wine or similar apps. under LTSP environment [03:52] what is the edubuntu status of working with SMBLDAP for integrating with Windows Domains? [03:52] yes neither am I [03:52] However, as the load of work is for the server to take, if your server is powerful enough, then sure. [03:53] sorry to run, but TT needs me :) [03:53] bbl [03:53] HedgeMage: bye === HedgeMage waves [03:53] hope to see you in here often, ncaller [03:53] :) [03:53] fortunately the school I'll be implementing this for currently has no computer resources so there is not really an issue to integrate with old windows software I was just curious [03:53] yes will do [03:53] later [03:54] ncaller: I once participated in the setting of Ubuntu (hoary!) with LDAP. I have not done it with SAMBA but I guess it will work [03:54] ncaller: LTSP is a great resource esp. for schools with old hardware [03:54] when we did it on CentOS last year it was a nightmare, CentOS is a redhat-logo-name-removed redhat enterprise spinoff which you probably knew [03:54] yes [03:55] They still get new versions of edu apps (linux ones) [03:55] right [03:56] the setup's I have seen have all used old PC's usually with pizzabox style cases for the terminals with their cd's and harddrive's removed, basically bought as cheap as possible. But I have seen a limited amount of the LTSP terminals deployed [03:56] so far, I have tested Edubuntu (since Breezy) in about 3 diff environments (old hardware) and it has always worked just perfectly [03:56] they are a bit pricy compared to what you can get an old PC for at the moment though [03:56] though they look nice [03:56] yup, indeed [03:57] would be great if you could get an LTSP term for even $100 [03:57] In my last edubuntu install (1 server + 6 worksations) we set BIOS to boot via PXE 1st. And if teacher needs better performance (let's say TuxMath or other games), then all stations have edubuntu-worksations install [03:58] well, AFAIK, there's a case of success in Mexico [03:58] let me get you the URL [03:58] thanks [03:58] they did get it very cheap === mhz means "let me get you.." = "will try to..." [03:58] :) [03:59] the place I worked at last summer had a lab of I think 60-70 term's running K12LTSP/CentOS, plus every other computer on the network in the school (about 300) dual booted 98 or XP / and linux [03:59] they had 4 existing Term servers, plus we built one more [03:59] ncaller: http://manueldublan.org/computerlab/ [04:00] ncaller: all happy users? [04:00] yes [04:00] ncaller: all happy admins? [04:00] only one tech admin, and yes [04:00] .oO(that must have been a nice experience to see) [04:00] the school administration loves the fact that the cost is very cheap [04:01] brb [04:01] yeah, schools should focus not on investing so much on computers but more on level of education and diff alternatives for students [04:03] Amaranth: xubuntu for edubuntu, is so far less expensive on same hardware and same apps. running at same time [04:03] (we'll see in next hours) === mhz is now known as mhz_backIn20min === ulinskie [n=u@203.215.95.133] has joined #edubuntu [04:12] good morning === mhz_backIn20min is now known as mhz === ajayc [n=ajay@59.93.247.126] has joined #edubuntu [04:30] Amaranth, hi [04:31] err, hi [04:31] Amaranth, u indian? [04:31] nope [04:31] ahh ok [04:31] although i'm told my nick means "forever ranting" in hindi [04:33] i think i've been lied to [04:33] that link story was good, I'll keep it in my ammo bin [04:35] hi adhoc, Amaranth [04:40] guys, anyone has had trouble editing Grub menu.lst ? [04:40] no [04:40] :P [04:40] I edit it and tell it to read /dev/hda2, save it, update-grub, reopen it and still says /dev/hdc2 instead :( [04:41] why update-grub? [04:41] just edit and save [04:41] rest it will do itself [04:41] just edit and save [04:43] ooh === mhz thought grub works just like yaboot and others [04:44] nope mhz [04:45] ajayc: okis, thx a lot for that important clarification [04:45] for a moment I thought I was crazy [04:45] lol [04:45] np [04:45] :D [04:46] btw u can come and hangout at #worlddomination [04:48] ajayc: heheh, and what is that for? === mhz feels it has to do something with overtaking the power [04:48] via Linux [04:49] or something regarding "Kill Bill" (gates) distro [04:49] nope [04:49] well it was my channek for mydsitro [04:49] your distro? [04:49] which i dropped cos i wasalone and it was gettin difficult [04:49] yeah, that happens [04:49] btw it was gentoo based [04:49] but dont worry "we are not alone" [04:50] but i got many friends there === mhz loves Gentoo [04:50] nice place [04:50] if u ever want buddies come to #worlddomination ;) [04:50] it's incredible how Gentoo can make people either just hate it or love it, no in-between-feelings [04:50] thx [04:51] yup true [04:51] u coming now? [04:51] or later? [04:51] okis [04:53] Gentoo is great, I just think Ubuntu is greater :-) [04:53] depends [04:53] :P [04:54] Laser_away: hehehehe [04:54] you are away === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [04:54] oh, not fair! [04:55] lol [04:55] LaserJock: I was with mdke in #moin yesterday. We were told Ubuntu = the distro you get when you can't install Debian [04:55] :D [04:56] doh [04:56] of course, it was a joke from the person who said it [04:56] Ubuntu = the distro when you want Debian to work and look nice ;-) [04:56] LOL [04:56] gentoo= the distro that WORKS :D [04:56] rofl!!! [04:56] puppy: NO BLOAT JUST LINUX [04:56] ajayc: if it compiles ;-) [04:57] if it gotta work it gotta compile :P === mhz still laughin [04:57] ajayc: it was a whole lot more bloated then Ubuntu for me [04:57] gentoo> [04:57] but it really depends [04:57] yup it does ubuntu is not beautiful though BROWN eww [04:57] so far I really haven't had a time where Gentoo worked better for me than Ubuntu, but it is my second choice for sure [04:58] sometimes look like ahem ... shit [04:58] :P [04:58] :D [04:58] ajayc: the brown is cool, I like it [04:58] i like it now [04:58] but I change it if I want to [04:58] its shiny now === mhz still uses Gentoo LiveCd#1 as his best option for rescue CD or live text mode [04:58] yeah, Dapper colors look better to me than Breezy [04:59] indeed [04:59] btw come to other channel LaserJock ask mhz i gotta leave cya [04:59] other channel? [04:59] LaserJock: any idea if ESA is ready to be used? [04:59] mhz: I think cbx33 is putting in screenshots tomorrow and finalizing [05:00] oh, so text is good to use then? [05:00] to be used === mhz still thinking in spanish [05:00] #worlddomination [05:00] the Applications section is still a little in flux [05:00] :D === ajayc is now known as ajayc|away === pontifex [n=pontifex@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-19-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === ajayc|away [n=ajay@59.94.2.140] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_toilette === mhz_toilette is now known as mhz === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === mhz is now known as mhz_zZzZ === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === ajayc|away [n=ajay@59.93.198.220] has joined #edubuntu === ch1p [i=ch1p@c-69-181-15-13.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:29] hello === ajay_ [n=ajay@59.93.195.17] has joined #edubuntu [08:29] hey [08:30] anyone here === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia_ is now known as Burgundavia === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@83.131.228.28] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === blue-frog [n=james@88.121.81.43] has joined #edubuntu === Phlosten [n=Phlosten@CPE-139-168-86-90.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [01:41] cbx33: ping === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [01:42] cbx33: i'm /pm'ing you the link to that theme [01:48] Excellent [01:48] thanks highvoltage [01:51] I'll try to ghet that sorted out later on today [01:51] got loads to do today === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:13] I think I found a bug in Keduca === Rondom [n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b94aae.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #edubuntu === Bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === Bluekuja_laptop [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom_ [n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b953c7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=pygi@83.131.254.65] has joined #edubuntu [03:07] hey all === Rondom_ [n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b953c7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:41] bb in about 2 hours === mike_1 [n=gehlm@207.250.167.73] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === mike_1 [n=gehlm@207.250.167.73] has left #edubuntu [] === rocks [n=rock@cpc2-cosh6-0-0-cust813.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:38] how do you conncet a usb web cam [04:39] via a usb port, i would presume :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [04:56] jsgotangco: so, next month we meet :) [04:56] wiigiiii [04:56] err [04:56] wohoooo [04:56] :) [04:57] yeah should be fun [04:57] hehe === highvoltage thought you just got excited about a new nintendo machine [04:57] wii!!! [04:57] hehe [04:57] hehe [04:57] although i'll be flying for 15 hours to get to paris [04:58] i think it'll be about 10 hours for me [04:58] whoa [04:58] africa is pretty big anyway [04:58] and probably 2 hours for ogra :) [04:58] yeah, and i live on the tip right at the bottom [04:58] but you wont be adjusting to the timezone he === Saugilsr [n=sreiach@24.231.48.80] has joined #edubuntu [04:59] paris is an hour behind my timezone, but yeah, no adjusting should be necassary [04:59] heh im 6 hours ahead [05:00] i bought a book/cd on how to speak french, listening to it while i drive. i'm not sure how much engrish they speak there === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [05:00] maybe i should do that too [05:00] actually i still need to get a shengen visa [05:01] hi jsgotangco [05:01] hey highvoltage [05:01] hey [05:01] just about to look at that css [05:02] hi cbx33 === phos [n=Phos@manuel.ph.ed.ac.uk] has joined #edubuntu [05:16] what browser does edubuntu ship with? [05:17] as in Web browser? -desktop depends on firefox [05:17] highvoltage: did you take the exam? [05:17] phos: firefox [05:18] has it been suggested to create a kiosk version [05:18] jsgotangco: yep [05:18] phos: not yet [05:18] highvoltage: how was it? [05:19] it was okay [05:19] i had some gripes with it, but they had a session afterwards where we could give feedback [05:19] what was it like? desktop focused? [05:19] LPI is great like that, they continually improve their exams [05:20] i think it would be nice to see something like that [05:20] phos: kiosk mode on what? just firefox? [05:20] you can do that with pessulus [05:21] yeah? [05:21] highvoltage, you took LPIC ? [05:21] i must take a look at that [05:21] jsgotangco: problem is, you have to sign a form at the exam where you promise not to discuss the contents of the test :/ [05:21] cbx33: no he took the Ubuntu exam [05:21] mehhhh [05:21] oooooh === cbx33 wants to do that [05:21] cbx33: jo'burg was the first to give an exam during linuxworld [05:21] this is the test objectives though: http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/certification/pro [05:22] phos: there's also sabayon but it is focused on profiles, pessulus is more on locking down gnome itself [05:22] oooh [05:23] yeah, i imagined something along the lines of a restricted profile === jsgotangco is not really an exam person [05:23] phos: yeah you should look into pessulus then === highvoltage neither [05:23] i will do [05:23] hehe [05:23] phos: hopefully, the next relesae for edubuntu will be shiny with such features [05:23] well i do better in coursework [05:25] grr opera still doesn't play nice on gdebi [05:26] cbx33: could you figure anything out on that theme? i didn't expect it to be easy. what are you planning on doing? [05:27] cbx33: updating it to 4.7.0, a re-write, or apply it to another theme? [05:27] highvoltage, just looking at it now [05:30] highvoltage, you know this doc move on the wiki [05:31] wyhat's that gonna mean for people who aren't memebrs of the doc team, but need to update their documents? === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #edubuntu [05:33] cbx33: i'm not sure, i'm not 100% updated on the doc 'move' [05:33] cbx33: who's moving what at the moment? [05:33] I'm not sure [05:34] it's gonna play havoc with my UbuntuLTSP idea though === cbx33 is confused [05:34] in that case I'd need to become a member of the doc team, [05:34] are we having a seperate edubuntu doc team? [05:34] cbx33: i don't think you need to worry about that too much though [05:35] cbx33: edubuntu-doc has been kind of seperate [05:35] highvoltage, could you pm me that link again? [05:35] cbx33: but i think it would be ideal to have both working together [05:35] sure [05:35] yeh, but ogra was keen on me making the LTSP stuff ubutu generic, which I have been trying to do [05:35] sorry, I'm on another computer now :p [05:35] have my drupal system all setup [05:35] sent [05:36] i think you should continue doing that [05:36] if and when any move takes place, it would be better if everything is organised to start off with. [05:37] yes [05:37] i think what corey suggested (it was late when i read the conversation), is that we have a page similar to http://doc.ubuntu.com [05:37] well I'm trying :p [05:38] in drupal? [05:38] its not really complicated in drupal [05:38] the trick is how to make it look not like drupal heh [05:38] jsgotangco: exactly ;) [05:39] hmmm java [05:39] jsgotangco, no, I'm trying to pul all the LTSP stuff together [05:39] cbx33: good luck if you're using moin [05:40] heheh [05:40] I am === jsgotangco downloads java [05:40] highvoltage, do you know where the current theme setting is set? [05:40] so i can change it when it breaks :p [05:41] cbx33: sff breaks drupal so badly, that you can't even change back [05:41] cbx33: (not from within drupal anyway) [05:41] yeh [05:41] cbx33: so ln -s is your friend :) [05:41] hehe [05:41] mv edubuntu to something like edubuntu-bak [05:41] then ln -s one of the other themes to edubuntu [05:41] ok I was looking through the mysql database [05:45] highvoltage, how does it break on the server? [05:45] just goes blank doesn't it? [05:46] highvoltage, you're not at work now are you? [05:46] its sunday [05:46] heh [05:46] he popped in this morning [05:46] didn't know if he'd gone home yet [05:47] jsgotangco, if i wanted to include images in a docbook [05:47] can i have them sit next to one another like in tables? [05:47] no [05:47] thought not [05:48] hmm..... [05:48] docbook is not meant to format [05:48] no i know [05:48] it just shows the data [05:48] cbx33: yes, just goes blank [05:48] highvoltage, must be something up with your specific setup [05:48] cbx33: no, it's too cold outside, so i'm at home :) [05:48] as it works here [05:48] I was goign to sk for a zip of the drupal folder [05:48] cbx33: does the edubuntu theme work with your version of drupal? [05:49] and the database :p [05:49] cbx33: what version of drupal are you using? [05:49] yes ... to an extent [05:49] there are some css issues to resolve but it definitely doesnt break [05:50] interesting. since they warn you that what happens to me would definitely happen on drupal 4.7.0+ [05:50] highvoltage, tbh i think it's a php warning [05:50] what version of drupal are you using, cbx33? [05:50] 4.7 [05:51] 4.7.0 [05:51] to be exact [05:51] highvoltage: do you have any idea if what we will be having in shipit is the text install or workstaion live? [05:51] text install...iirc [05:52] cool its only right to give 5 max then [05:52] hmm i hope we can have some in paris [05:52] heheh [05:52] i think it's the text install too, but you'll have to wait for a response from ogra to know for sure [05:55] am i right in thinking tuxtype has been removed from edbutu? [05:56] highvoltage, how do you want me to proceed with the css edubutnu issue ? [05:56] i think it may be due to the directory structure [05:57] for example there is an admin folder on your system, but there is not in 4.7 [05:57] cbx33: i dont have it either now === cbx33 removes tuxtype from ESA [05:57] one less screenshot to do [05:58] cbx33: well you have to know why its not there anymore [05:59] true, i remember someone saying it had been removed before, vaguely, might have been ogra [05:59] but i have no way of checking now, and the ESA deadline is supposed to be today [06:00] its only 1 line :) [06:00] true [06:00] but [06:00] think i shoujld remove it or wait? [06:00] comment it heh [06:00] hehe [06:01] how do you comment in docbook :p [06:01] just like how you comment html [06:01] ok [06:02] nice the java 5 debs work well === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [06:03] jsgotangco, how do you suggest handling the screenshots in the ESA? [06:03] have you seen the TakingScreenshots wiki? [06:03] yes [06:03] and i have followed that to get my screnshots === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [06:04] that shold be enough but if you find it big, just resize them [06:04] because you're discussing a whole application [06:04] ok [06:04] I have 5.3Mb worth of png [06:04] if you were discussing a feature of an application, you would focus on the feature instaed of showng the whole image [06:04] i'm gonna run pngcrush on them now [06:04] jsgotangco, true === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-17-111-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [06:05] G'day all [06:05] hi Yagisan [06:05] hey Yagisan [06:06] highvoltage, so, where do we go from here with the css.. [06:06] think we need to create from scratch? [06:06] cbx33: well, it works on your side, doesn't it? [06:06] yes [06:07] cbx33: you mentioned some minor issues, what were they? can you put up some screenshots somewhere and send me the link? [06:07] but as i said earlier [06:07] sure [06:07] cbx33: i can then check tomorrow morning what that looks like [06:07] but i think our installations are different [06:07] cbx33: otherwise we start with another theme end edubuntufy that [06:07] i think your problem is a php problem [06:08] that's why it results in a blank page === saugilsr [n=sreiach@24.231.48.80] has joined #edubuntu [06:10] i still think it'll break in your installation [06:12] unfortunately we can't play around on this server, it's a canonical server where lots of other ubuntu pages are served from as well. so if we change php settings, we might break some of the other sites :/ [06:13] yeahhh!!!! [06:13] yes, [06:13] probably the problem was it was "upgraded" as opposed to installed from scratch [06:14] the server, or drupal? [06:14] drupal [06:14] drupal was installed in pretty much the same way you did it [06:14] what from scratch? [06:14] oh [06:14] the old copy was moved away, and then a new drupal installation was installed, with the old ones db [06:14] hmm.....then what could possibly be the problem [06:15] ahh [06:15] ok [06:15] heh, #drupal and #drupal-themes say it's definately the sff theme :/ [06:15] is it possible to copy the new one, [06:15] yeh? [06:15] perhaps you should send them a screenshot with your working copy :) [06:15] ok [06:17] http://www.progbox.co.uk/screenie.png [06:17] but remember that was with a fresh database [06:18] sff? [06:19] but it does work === Yagisan ponders the significance of his daughter having a nightmare at the exact same time he begins installing windows. [06:24] heheh [06:24] Bill has been linked to the Dark Prince :p [06:25] cbx33: I thought he *was* the Dark Prince [06:25] :p [06:27] cbx33: I recall having you listed as a tester for doomsday, yet I've not heard a peep from you [06:27] Yagisan, true, I've been so busy with ESA and other ubu stuff, I havn't had a chance yet [06:27] I have a while today to do stuff so, I'll try my best to do it today [06:28] I think I'll nee [06:28] d a little help [06:28] cbx33: no worries === highvoltage [n=jono@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [06:29] highvoltage, did you see that imafge? [06:30] cbx33: probably not, lost my connection there for a while === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:30] cbx33: btw, i can get it to display a page with that theme, but there's no menu to the right [06:30] cbx33: do you see the menu's at the right as well? [06:31] highvoltage, no [06:31] ah ok [06:32] looks like a redo of the theme may be the only solution [06:32] yep [06:32] crushed png's mean only 2.5 Mb of images now === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan wonders again why he volunteered to write a build system that works on Win/Mac/*NIX [07:03] ouch [07:04] god the wiki is slow [07:04] yep. It would help if I had access to a Mac too. I hope Darwin is close enough [07:04] Yagisan: what kind of system? :) [07:05] spacey: build system. 1 project, 3 different ways to build it, none in sync [07:05] Yagisan, cos you have (a) python (b) see (a) [07:05] ah [07:06] sounds like a pain in the ass [07:06] it is, but it should be worth it in the end [07:08] ompaul: I already started on autotools. I figure if I'm going to torture myself with WIn/Mac, I may as well add DOS for shits and giggles === ompaul walks away in horror [07:10] ompaul: it would be amusing actually. Making a DOS port would return the project to it's roots. [07:10] a freedos port I could understand but dos .... === bugman [n=bugman@host-84-221-6-197.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #edubuntu === ompaul wonders if anyone got the joke [07:12] brb === superset1 [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu [07:18] ompaul: I do have a copy of OS/2 around somewhere. That's a challenge waiting to happen. Step 1, find something it installs in (if that is still possible). === h3sp4wn [n=samw@82.3.197.7] has joined #edubuntu === h3sp4wn [n=samw@82.3.197.7] has left #edubuntu ["Tomorrow] === mjg [n=gehlm@207.250.167.73] has joined #edubuntu === mjg [n=gehlm@207.250.167.73] has left #edubuntu [] === bugman [n=bugman@host-84-221-6-197.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === saugilsr [n=sreiach@24.231.48.80] has joined #edubuntu === alexandros_se [i=ctrl@2-1-1-18a.spa.sth.bostream.se] has joined #edubuntu === blue-frog [n=james@88.121.118.187] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-177-94.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@242.Red-83-49-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [09:46] hey Burgundavia [09:46] I've been working on some images for ESA [09:46] could I run them by you if you have a second [09:47] cool [09:47] sure [09:53] hmm, the darwin installer makes the old debian installer seem very user friendly [09:53] ok hang onI'll tar them [09:55] http://www.progbox.co.uk/schooladvo.tar.gz [09:56] cbx33, looks good. I am a little concerned about the length of the OO ones [09:59] think it's too long? [10:00] yep [10:02] think we shuld skip an app? [10:02] looks ok in yelp [10:02] just outta interest [10:03] sure [10:03] the screenshots only show an idea, they are not to be studied that closely [10:03] true [10:03] ok [10:03] i was hoping they'd be links to BIGGER versions [10:03] on the wiki at least [10:04] this doc is not ideally designed to be on the web [10:04] no I know [10:04] drupal? [10:04] we can adapt its contents to the edubuntu website, but I think it is better as a handout [10:04] oh sure [10:05] we could always make a link to the pdf [10:05] I chatted to mdke about the rosetta idea yesterday, hope you don;t mind [10:05] he said probably the best way would be to make it a product [10:06] I was thinking about lulu for printing it? what do you think? [10:06] getting a few done to see how they look [10:11] argh, I can see the sun rising === Yagisan quickly heads off to bed [10:11] it is too small to have lulu print it === CuriousG [n=cg@c-67-174-42-184.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:12] if this is a product guide, you can probably get it printed locally for cheaper [10:14] What's the proper way of getting Edubuntu to work with two NICs? [10:15] what do you want to do? [10:16] I'd like to keep the LTSP traffic onto one NIC and the other NIC access Internet [10:17] if you bind the dhcp server to one, you are good [10:17] I think by default it uses eth0 for the DHCP server [10:19] Seem to have problems booting thin clients too. [10:19] One time I got out of range on LCD [10:19] Other times it came up but had no mouse [10:19] hmm, I am not the person to ask about that [10:19] I have actually never installed Edubuntu [10:20] keyboard worked but entered in user and password and it came back to the login prompt again [10:20] A record I am quite proud of [10:20] heh, funny that you're in this channel then [10:20] Took a while to figure out that the Desktop version isn't what you want if you want thin clients [10:20] Burgundavia, lulu will print brochures [10:20] don't get me wrong, I use Ubuntu everywhere. I have just never played with edubuntu [10:21] cbx33, is it cheaper than you can locally? [10:21] I like how the desktop feel is in Ubuntu than Skolelinux but Skolelinux has been much more trouble free [10:21] skolelinux is an older project [10:22] Sure it is older but they have a 2.0r0 out about 2 months ago [10:22] So it is fairly current [10:22] I don't want to download 5 or 6 CDs just to try out K12LTSP [10:22] what I meant by older is that they have been around for longer [10:23] Wondering if they have daily builds [10:23] edubuntu? [10:24] I know edubuntu does I just finished downloading it [10:24] skole [10:24] Burgundavia, so if I edit that last image [10:24] can you upload them to the images folder? [10:25] yep, can do [10:25] or find me svn access :p [10:25] I think they have rsync builds [10:26] I wouldn't hold your breath until after dapper releases [10:26] heheh [10:26] I was kidding [10:26] I think elmo is currently in mexico, holding yet another tattered network together with sheer sweat [10:27] that's less than 2wks unless they plan on retooling some other things [10:27] hehe [10:27] no, Ubuntu should release on time, pending nuclear warfare or the end of the world === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu [10:38] I doubt even the end of the world would matter, I imagine elmo, mdz and Keybuck have escape pods with backup archives on some satellite ;-) [10:39] indeed [10:53] Laser_away, you there? [10:55] cbx33: no :( [10:56] cbx33, anything I can help you with? [10:57] was just gonna ask Laser_away if the images would tie in with his idea for the applications section [10:57] Burgundavia, I've modified the xml to include the images [10:57] if I tar the whole thing up can you add it to the repo? [10:57] can you send me a patch and the images? [10:57] ok will do [11:03] i think we are missing one app [11:03] and have one that isn't there anymore [11:16] Burgundavia, that link to that tar shuld now contain a new archive with crushed png's and a diff [11:18] ok, looking now [11:18] cheers [11:18] think we'll be ready for freeze tonight? [11:18] :S [11:19] if by tonight you mean UTC, I don't know [11:19] if by tonight you mean UTC-7, likely [11:21] heheh [11:21] well the original deadlin was 1hr 40 mins away [11:25] done [11:25] excellent [11:28] we are lacking css for the html and xslt to make pdfs out of it [11:29] Burgundavia, ok [11:29] I've never done the xslt [11:29] but I can look at it [11:30] remeber that because it's gogn tbe a pamphlet [11:30] we could always use the pamphlet as the pdf === mjg [n=gehlm@207.250.167.73] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@242.Red-83-49-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #edubuntu