[12:02] pianoboy3333: oki [12:04] Bluekuja: hold on, what's -default.ex for in debian/* ? [12:05] its the initscrip [12:06] t [12:06] are you packaging a daemon? [12:09] Bluekuja: no [12:09] if not I don't need it? [12:09] pianobay3333: in fact you need it to add options to the daemon [12:10] pianobay3333: a initscript [12:10] if you dont need files like it or emacs one [12:10] or watch.ex etc, just delete them [12:11] Bluekuja: what about postinst.ex postrm.ex preinst.ex prerm.ex ? [12:11] they are maintainer scripts [12:12] for dpkg [12:12] So keep those [12:12] in fact they're scripts for upgrade, install, etc [12:12] Bluekuja: what command should I build with? [12:13] debuild? [12:13] yep, or dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [12:13] remember to add your key to the file [12:13] but anyway debuild will ask you for it [12:13] right [12:14] just manage to create a working key, and write down the pwd when its requested [12:15] remember to check the package with both linda and lintian [12:16] Bluekuja: can you tell me how to do that? [12:17] what? key? [12:17] no === jmanblue [n=khan@cbl-sd-51-27.aster.com.do] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] Bluekuja: linda and lintian, just run it in the top source directory? [12:17] no [12:17] you have to run them on the package [12:17] like [12:18] lintian packagename.deb [12:18] after it's built though [12:18] oh [12:18] lintian packagename.changes [12:18] etc [12:18] anyway if you need to upload it to revu, you have to include sources in it [12:18] with -S -sa options [12:18] what exactly does a MOTU do?? [12:19] it sounds cool... [12:19] Bluekuja: here's what happened: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14357 [12:19] jmanblue: it's for maintainers and packaging and such [12:19] jmanblue: create packages, review them, upload them in universe etc [12:19] for the community [12:19] Ubotu isn't in here? [12:19] pianoboy3333: let me take a look [12:20] This isn't just when trying to build this package, I've tried others too [12:20] Bluekuja: the package is a python module [12:21] if you install it [12:21] normally [12:21] do you get that error too right? [12:21] No [12:21] cool, i've always wondered how to create packages... [12:22] Bluekuja: I was able to install and build it with checkinstall fine [12:22] that's the weird part [12:22] tell me what you did [12:23] Bluekuja: you can get the directory I'm working with at http://piano.juicemedia.tv/tobuild-pynotify.bz2 [12:23] no, wait [12:25] Bluekuja: it's at http://piano.juicemedia.tv/tobuild-pynotify.tar.bz2 [12:32] agggg [12:33] I'll never figure out what's wrong... [12:33] damnit [12:34] pianoboy3333: just a moment, I'm checking [12:34] oh, I thought you were away, sorry ;) [12:34] you are marked as away actually [12:34] oh yes, i forget it [12:35] no more away ^^ [12:35] installing deps [12:35] ok [12:36] Bluekuja: you'll need to compile them unfortunately, it depends on libnotify4 [12:36] Bluekuja: http://www.galago-project.org/downloads.php [12:36] yep, i've just noticed it [12:36] okie let me compile [12:37] i'll have to package that lib [12:37] ^^ [12:37] Yea, once I get past compiling a simple program, I'll move on to libs... [12:38] yeah, it harder creating libs [12:38] *its [12:38] anyway you'll need to read the debian guide [12:38] and make some practice === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:42] more deps for that file [12:42] lets install them ^^ [12:42] Like? [12:42] Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.2.2 glib-2.0 >= 2.2.2, dbus-1 >= 0.36, dbus-glib-1 >= 0.36) were not met. [12:43] i have glib and dbus installed [12:44] are you able to sucessfully build the package? [12:44] aww dbus version 0.36 [12:45] i have 0.23 [12:46] 0.23? I have 0.60 are you using breezy? [12:47] I'm on Debian now [12:47] oh [12:48] lets move to the laptop [12:50] give me a minute [12:50] i open it === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:14] Bluekuja: whazup? === Bluekuja_laptop [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:14] pianoboy3333: still there? [01:14] yep [01:15] can you send me [01:15] the link again? [01:15] Bluekuja_laptop: http://piano.juicemedia.tv/tobuild-pynotify.tar.bz2 [01:16] also lib [01:16] http://www.galago-project.org/downloads.php === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-014-215.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar === Bluekuja_laptop [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:33] pianoboy3333: I'm having a problem with sudoers file that has got chmod 777 [01:34] so i cannot run synaptic, or other applications that requires root [01:34] hmmm? [01:34] Bluekuja_laptop: why? [01:34] coz yesterday i was setting up some permissions on /etc [01:34] so.... [01:35] login as root [01:35] and fix it I guess [01:35] of course, but its disabled [01:35] very niced [01:35] yeah, the only time that i forget to change root pwd [01:36] what do you need to do? fakeroot may help [01:37] synaptic can't be launched with fakeroot... [01:37] 'twould be a problem [01:38] i'm without root and sudo [01:38] what can i do? [01:38] format :D [01:39] what bootloader are you using? [01:40] grub [01:40] mmm unfortunately i have no experiance with grub [01:40] aww [01:40] well its the first time that i get thi problem [01:40] what you need to do is pass init=/bin/bash on the kernel command line [01:41] not sure how you'd do that with grub though [01:41] when you do that the kernel should boot and drop straight into a rootshell [01:42] oh [01:42] let me check it with grub [01:42] There is the safty mode, or whatever it's called that boots into a root shell [01:43] ah yeah right [01:43] brb [01:43] yeah that might work too if theres no root password set at all [01:44] rather than a forgotten root password [01:45] plugwash: isn't it bad to have a root password? [01:46] plugwas: thanks to make me remember about safety mode [01:46] ^^ [01:47] I had that idea though :-( [01:47] well ubuntu has this strange idea of using sudo all the time, i'm not sure i see the point myself [01:48] using a seperate root password and su rather than sudo at least means that they need to steal two passwords [01:48] plugwash: I don't know, what's wrong with sudo? it uses the user password instead of one root password that can corrupt the sys [01:48] plugwash: that's the idea, you disable the root password [01:49] sudo still gets you root [01:49] you can do just as much damage with sudo as with a direct root login [01:49] ok, w/e [01:49] plugwash: the lesson here is "best practices" for people migrating, and thus new to Linux [01:50] crimsun i just don't belive that what people are pushing as best practice really is [01:50] plugwash: it never was the intention to /prevent/ someone from using su. It's presumed that if one is competent enough to understand the tradeoffs between su and sudo, then sudo -{i,s} are as easily accessible as su [-] [01:51] plugwash: I think I'd obviously have a different opinion if I used another distro other than ubuntu [01:51] plugwash: as polemic as theo et al. can be, they have a good point pushing the use of sudo. [01:52] Personally that is a smart move for Ubuntu. === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-014-215.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] crimsun so what do you think is so good about sudo? other than the fact it lets an attacker into root with one password rather than two (which is something of a disadvantage) [01:53] plugwash: an audit trail if used properly. [01:54] once someones root thats easilly tampered with, i guess it could help deal with admin incompetance though [01:54] (on a multi admin box) [01:55] well obviously once root privileges have been gained, there's nothing one can do short of physically yanking the box. [01:56] also iirc sudo only asks for your password once for several commands [01:56] you can shorten the timeout [01:56] so all malware running under your user account has to do is wait for you to use sudo and then use it itself [01:57] that's no different from su [01:57] however, at least it will be logged [01:57] pianoboy3333: I've to go now, i'm really tired, whole day working on some packages ,tomorrow come here, I'll give you news about your package [01:58] cya plugwash, cya crimsum [01:58] Bluekuja: kk [01:59] bye Bluekuja [01:59] note: i'm not saying i like su much better but at least it asks for the password every time and uses a different password from your main login === Bluekuja wants to say Thanks to Safety Mode before go :) [01:59] cya guys === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] Hey, is anyone interested in games? :) [02:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Games I spent about an hour triaging those 8, just to clean things up. [02:03] i tend to belive that most desktop users have security backwards. The aim should be to restrict apps in dangerous positions (web browsers irc clients etc) not to let all the users apps shit on each other while requiring special (and malware vulnerable) systems to raise the permissions for things involving hardware [02:04] thats why ubuntu goes out of its way to not run hal as root === pianoboy3333 [n=pianoboy@ool-43567d61.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["111RAMBLE] [02:08] plugwash: you sound like you don't like NOrton AV or Windows Defender, with them allowing normal users to disinfect critical system files......... [02:11] if somebody could do a quick rebuild/upload of eterm, per bug #45815 a long-standing problem would go away and I sure would be happy. any takers? [02:11] Malone bug 45815 in eterm "Eterm needs a rebuild against updated libast" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/45815 [02:11] bluefoxicy well windows is even worse, it pretty well forces you to run as admin and then makes it very hard to downgrade privilages for individual apps [02:12] XD [02:12] tbh i rarely run exposed user apps (web browsers etc) on linux anyway so i just run as root all the time [02:13] but if i wanted more security running as a low privilage user would not be the way i'd go about doing it [02:13] we all run as root all the time [02:13] just with training wheels (sudo) [02:14] you don't actually think that thing would actually stop a compromised account from gaining root access do you? [02:14] no i don't but i think too many people are under the false impression that it will === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] I should write a proof of concept that infects an ubuntu user's account and runs rm -f /boot/* when he next sudos [02:15] that would leave the system unbootable, but easily fixable (livecd, re-install your kernel) [02:15] agreed, if possible make it work with su as well [02:16] anyone who actually runs it is asking for it. [02:16] but i'm far too lazy === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluefoxicy wrote a theoretical script to do it and explained the scenario but doesn't feel like implementing the attack. === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4206403.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:19] plugwash: right now I'm more interested in Nexuiz, OpenQuartz, and CrystalCore being packaged and promoted to main so we can say we got games. [02:19] Ubuntu LAN Party LiveCD? :) [02:20] i'm a debian user really, i only started hanging out here trying to get freepascal into universe (without success) [02:20] it seems there are only a few people who can perform a non autobuilt upload and they are always distracted by other stuff [02:20] are those three things in debian proper somewhere? [02:20] N isn't.... [02:23] who should I appeal to? my favorite console is unusable on my desktop, and I'm a console guy, it'd just be a quick build/upload of eterm [02:24] trappist: Not going to happen for dapper. [02:24] Amaranth: you're kidding. [02:24] I'm not [02:24] Amaranth: it doesn't even need patched. libast was patched and was supposed to trigger an eterm upload but didn't [02:25] it's too close to release time, you'd have to find someone who isn't busy squashing bugs [02:25] err, I'm pretty sure I triggered that, did I not?... [02:25] Amaranth: that... is a bug? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] crimsun: yes, but that patch didn't do the trick - a subsequent patch does [02:25] argh, so another lock-step dance? [02:25] if so, you know the drill. [02:26] it's universe isn't it [02:26] bluefoxicy: Oh, I thought it was a totally new package. [02:26] crimsun: I had tested the previous patch, but stupidly, with both patches applied. it's the second one that actually worked. [02:26] Amaranth: nah, he's complaining eterm won't work. [02:26] Ok, that's a different story. [02:27] trappist: reopen the bug (subscribe me if I'm not already) and clarify with url(s) to relevant patches, please [02:27] crimsun: I opened a new eterm bug for it - you want me to reopen the libast bug? [02:27] trappist: if a patch will touch it, absolutely. [02:28] if libast is already fixed and done with, then no. [02:29] libast is fixed and done with - eterm just needs a rebuild/upload [02:29] eterm is bug #45815 [02:29] Malone bug 45815 in eterm "Eterm needs a rebuild against updated libast" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/45815 [02:30] I triggered that upload /after/ libast had built and was synced [02:30] so if the bug is still there, then the libast patch is insufficient [02:31] crimsun: let me check my timeline, but I'm 90% sure there was a subsequent (correct) patch that did not trigger an eterm upload [02:32] yes, the Eterm changelog is 1 week older than the libast2 changelog [02:32] so essentially I /didn't/ trigger the upload? [02:32] (which is what I was asking) [02:33] you did, that patch didn't do the trick, there was another patch and another libast upload, and *that* upload didn't trigger an eterm upload. [02:33] that's because we have to trigger them by hand [02:33] I see === crimsun updates for kicks [02:34] that's what I figured when there wasn't a new eterm for the new libast, so a new upload is what I was asking for [02:35] ok, so post-Barry's patch last week [02:35] gotcha. [02:35] exactly [02:35] I'll chuck it. [02:35] err [02:35] I'm referring TO barry's patch - that's the good one that eterm needs a build against [02:35] chuck->trigger [02:35] oh ok :) [02:36] I got confused on the timeline and briefly thought you were barry [02:37] Uploading via ftp eterm_0.9.2-8.3build2_source.changes: done. [02:37] Successfully uploaded packages. [02:37] awesome, thanks [02:37] np === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ciphex [n=N@c-24-20-202-166.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ciphex [n=N@c-24-20-202-166.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-014-215.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reda_ea [n=reda@adsl196-250-82-206-196.adsl196-3.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@59.167.24.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Frem [n=james@adsl-145-82-49.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] Hello. Whenever I connect to a wifi network using this atheros card, I get a "BUG" message and what looks like a kernel panic. [04:02] The error message says "[4295144.337000] BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" [04:04] Heya Hobbsee [04:05] Frem: Can you please file a bug on launchpad.net with as much detail as possible? [04:05] hi bddebian :) [04:06] bddabian: aside from what I just said, the model of the card, and the kernel, what else do you want? [04:08] heya bddebian and Hobbsee [04:08] hi imbrandon :) [04:09] Hi imbrandon [04:09] Frem: If you feel adventerous, you can try some of this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash [04:09] congrats Tonio_, Hobbsee, et al. [04:09] crimsun: :) [04:09] crimsun: thanks :) [04:09] Tonio_: congratulations to you as well :) [04:09] Oh? Did I miss something AGAIN? [04:10] same for you Hobbsee :) [04:10] bddebian: yeah, kubuntu council got created [04:10] bddebian: for the kubuntu cc [04:10] Oh, awesome, congrats you two [04:10] bddebian: thanks :) [04:10] :) [04:11] nice [04:11] bddebian, not that adventerous. :-/ [04:12] kubuntu council ? bddebian feel like a quick upload ? http://ubuntustuff.sytes.net/temp its a gnucash patch [04:12] Frem: No problem :-) Please file what you can. [04:12] from malone [04:13] imbrandon: Nah, I don't do any uploads. ;-P [04:13] hehehe === imbrandon gos back into the corner then * [04:13] :-) [04:14] man, that crazy bddebian with his upload sprees. [04:14] someone got a link on the info for becoming a kubuntu member ( not motu *yet* ) heheh [04:14] er...i'm not sure if one exists [04:14] oh yes, sure it does [04:14] ?!? heh [04:14] crimsun: Sorry man :-( [04:14] imbrandon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings [04:15] add yourself to that list - follow the ubuntu new membership guide... [04:15] umm list? === Hobbsee is afk [04:15] er, well, create that list [04:15] heh ok === Hobbsee will fix it up in a bit [04:16] but breakfast first! [04:16] yea go get food ;) [04:16] imbrandon: see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember [04:17] imbrandon: Can I ask one favor? [04:17] k Hobbsee thanks [04:17] same thing, except for Add yourself to the Community Council Agenda and link to the wiki page - in our case, it's the kubuntu meeting page [04:17] ok [04:17] i think that's the case, anyway [04:18] bddebian: sure [04:18] imbrandon: Please use .diff or .patch for your files not .dsc. It's very confusing at times :-) [04:19] ahhh ok np , yea i use .diff here but change it to .dsc when i put it in the web sir, but i'll stop [04:19] in fact, if you're generating debdiffs, it's good practice to suffix them .debdiff [04:19] that way there's no doubt :-) [04:20] kk yea they are debdiff's [04:20] s/sir/dir [04:20] imbrandon: OK, gnucash uploading [04:21] cool i'll remove it from my temp dir, that should close that malone bug too, i dunno how to close it on launchpad.net [04:22] click the source package link, and change the Status to "Fix Released" [04:22] k [04:27] Why the hell would scanpci binary be included in gatos? [04:27] heh === Jobman_ [n=Jobman@p508E52DA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] bddebian, I've submitted the bug. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/45822 [04:39] Malone bug 45822 in Ubuntu "Atheos - BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!!" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [04:40] hey [04:41] Frem: Great, thanks [04:41] Heya Toadstool [04:44] hey bddebian [04:46] g'night all === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@59.167.24.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@201.160.20.139.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-010-052.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] ok updated my wiki and added myself to the page Hobbsee ( and changed a few minor things for ya like the link to kibuntu-members on launchpad.net was typo'd ) ;) [05:14] hehe thanks imbrandon [05:14] i thought i fixed that [05:14] hope you didnt add yourself ot ubuntu members as well... === imbrandon pokes Hobbsee and bddebian to see if they will show up for the meeting on my behalf ;) ( says i should bring a fanclub ) [05:14] Hobbsee: nope [05:14] just kubuntu [05:14] imbrandon: i'd better be... [05:14] good :) [05:15] imbrandon: i cant exactly cheer for you... [05:15] imbrandon: What meeting? [05:15] i changed the [05:15] timezone thiong at the top to to work like the ubuntu agenda one [05:15] also [05:15] imbrandon: i warn you now, i doubt we know what we're doing...so it might all be in a bit of a mess... [05:15] bddebian: the next kubuntu-meeting [05:16] Hobbsee: np ;) i'm down for ground floor messes ;) [05:16] bddebian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings [05:16] imbrandon: I doubt that I have any sway with kubuntu :-) [05:16] imbrandon: small point - ubotu does the pointing, not ubugtu... [05:16] :P [05:17] bddebian: if you've seen his work, it counts [05:17] whoops ;) [05:17] does kubuntu have a council yet? I thought that was being formed in Paris [05:17] LaserJock: yes, it does, it was announced yesterday [05:17] Hobbsee: what list? [05:18] LaserJock: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2006-May/001217.html [05:18] i suspect it got posted to other lists as well - or more people are subscribed to that one than i thought [05:18] whoa havent seen a netsplit in ahwile === pontifex [n=pontifex@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/g0sub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jcape [i=jcape@71.194.177.222] has joined #ubuntu-motu === uniq [n=frode@ubuntu/member/frode] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _nicolas [n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:19] Hobbsee: who is achim === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _nicolas_ [n=nick@c-24-3-157-222.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:22] LaserJock: allee [05:22] oh ok === Quash [n=chatzill@d36-18-205.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:28] Anyone know which team oversees ShipIt? [05:29] anyone here? [05:30] Quash: Oversees in what regard? [05:30] Who makes decisions re: ShipIt [05:31] What is ShipIt? [05:32] When you get Ubuntu CDs shipped to you free of charge. [05:32] Oh, Hmm. Sorry I don't know [05:32] Have you tried the wiki pages? [05:32] isnt that listed on teh shipit page? [05:33] couldn't find a contact email on the shipit page. [05:34] http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq#head-7eef2db63e0a75424cdd663ee6f7b8eedcf19607 [05:34] info@shipit.ubuntu.com [05:35] oh sorry see Hobbsee already put up the link. [05:35] hehe it's okay === Hobbsee contemplates getting one [05:36] I put in an order for 10, that will suffice nicely for my friends and me. [05:37] talked to some guy who put in an order for 500 just for the kicks of it, darn i got so mad, such a waste. [05:37] thanks! [05:38] Yeah, ordering 500 for "kicks" is the act or an idiot...or an M$ employee. [05:38] I think the ShipIt program is missing one tiny thing... [05:39] to top it off he said he was just going to throw them away, i said he should atleast try to put them out somewhere where other people could atleast take and try one, like at a shoppingmall or whatever. [05:39] lalala [05:39] ohlala [05:39] hi chillywilly [05:39] hi [05:39] ... a small collapsable (sp?) display case made of the same material as the CD case that would hold, lets say, 20 cds. Small enough to ship in the same size packaging and to sit in a computer store by the cash register. [05:40] slackern: notified cannonical of this? they coul dprobably just not send that many... [05:40] Quash: exactly [05:40] bddebian: wherefore art thou bddebian [05:41] Hobbsee: No i haven't let them know, i saw you could make special orders for more cd's if you needed i was guessing he did something like that. [05:41] slackern: you might want to [05:41] Then, you build a community-based campaign. Ubuntu users go to their local independent computer shops and see if the stores would agree to take 20 free CDs and use the display case. [05:42] Hobbsee: aye you are right, but i only have his forumname im afraid. [05:42] So, Ubuntu users become distributors... helping to introduce mainstream, non-Linux users to Ubuntu. [05:42] slackern: that'd do... [05:42] Quash: thats a good idea [05:42] Quash: I stick one in with every order i ship from ebay thats a computer part ( hard drives , nic cards etc ) [05:42] Heya chillywilly [05:42] besides, it's pretty easy to figure out who it was...most people dont order 500... [05:42] bddebian: hey [05:42] slackern: they could lookup his ip and the order ips easy [05:43] with the forum name [05:43] imbrandon: ahh good, i will locate the thread and mail to info@shipit.ubuntu.com i guess. [05:43] My local computer shop had a tonne of Ubuntu CDs, but they just sat in a messy stack, off on an out of the way counter. === Hobbsee just downloads them [05:43] usually testing cds, to test them out [05:44] yea or a daily build ;) [05:44] Quash: thats too bad [05:44] I'm tired... [05:44] Quash: yea i figure if they are ordering a computer part from me on ebay then i can send them a ubuntu cd also with the order and they MIGHT use it [05:45] A cheap, small display case would have kept them organized and right by the cash register. Could state it's "Free" and there could be re-ordering instructions on the back for the store owners, once they saw them fly off the shelves. [05:45] yup [05:45] email shipit or mark about it ;) [05:48] how do I email mark? [05:48] ...not that he probably wants to be bothered with stuff like this... [05:49] dunno there probbly a link on http://www.markshuttleworth.com/ [05:49] haha,darn that forum has alot of ubuntu discussion nowadays, still plowing through threads to find it. [05:50] can't see an email address for him on his site. [05:51] look him up in the wiki, i saw he has like a tons of adresses, markshuttleworth@canonical.com markshuttleworth@gmail.com are 2 if i remember correctly. [05:51] i'd try mark@ubuntu.com or sabdfl@ubuntu.com [05:51] but i doubt mark is the one to do anything about it - he probably has very little to do with the cds [05:51] he's a very busy man, i'm told === paniq [n=braniq@port-212-202-184-193.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pianoboy3333 [n=pianoboy@ool-43567d61.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:58] also his LP page has email addresses === pianoboy3333 [n=pianoboy@ool-43567d61.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:03]