[12:01] <luisito> ompaul: oh, i did it and now it works!
[12:02] <crazy_penguin> night all. pleasent dreams :)
[12:02] <luisito> ompaul: thank you
[12:02] <untung> hi, have anyone tried to install chinese input method (SCIM)?
[12:02] <ompaul> luisito, np
[12:03] <untung> i have problem at the end, always abort on Y or y
[12:04] <maike-maus2> hello
[12:04] <ompaul> utung perhaps these guys can help   #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[12:04] <Brander> So, everytime I mount a device e.g. I insert a cd, a shortcut is placed on the desktop, how do I stop that?
[12:05] <Ng> Brander: if you fire up gconf-editor and browse to /apps/nautilus I believe there is a series of settings in there to select what appears on the desktop, untick the volumes one (apologies if that's slightly wrong, I'm on a windows box atm and going from memory)
[12:05] <Babacom> anyone knows how to enable spelling checking in gnome-xchat? .... i don't get any dictionaries, although i have aspell installed etc ...
[12:05] <charles> ok well that didn't work.
[12:05] <charles> what is the command to configure the xserver?
[12:06] <Ng> charles: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:06] <RadiantFire> Brander
[12:06] <untung> ompaul:Need to get 117kB of archives.
[12:06] <untung> After unpacking 295kB of additional disk space will be used.
[12:06] <untung> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? Y
[12:06] <untung> Abort.
[12:06] <untung>  always abort this is the problem->
[12:06] <RadiantFire> it is / -> app -> nautilus -> desktop -> volumes_visible
[12:06] <Ng> RadiantFire: ta :)
[12:07] <untung> ompaul, at the end i got abort, if i answer Y or y
[12:07] <ompaul> untung, I have no ideas on that
[12:07] <Babacom> k ... different question ... does anyone have spelling working in gnome-xchat?
[12:08] <untung> any one can help me with chinese input installation?
[12:08] <mikeb> Babacom, when i type teh it changes it to the :P
[12:09] <Babacom> mikeb: ... cheers, so it is possible ;)
[12:09] <Babacom> teh remains teh for me
[12:09] <gleesond> is there any good video editing software in the universal repository, if not does anyone know of some that I can build?
[12:09] <HymnToLife> Babacom> you gotta configure it manually
[12:10] <mikeb> i didn't configure it manually
[12:10] <HymnToLife> forme ! stfu does http://membres.lycos.fr/mafiaboy02/stfu.jpg
[12:10] <Babacom> HymnToLife: please ... a hint where to do that?
[12:10] <HymnToLife> My Xchat is in French :/
[12:10] <Babacom> lol .... cheers for that pic ;)
[12:10] <HymnToLife> (it is _not_ me :p)
[12:11] <HymnToLife> well, its something like Seetings > Advanced > 1st menu
[12:11] <HymnToLife> someting like Automatic replacement
[12:11] <riba> hello...
[12:12] <mikeb> Y Helo Thar, riba
[12:12] <HymnToLife> you enter the thung you ype ant the stuff you want Xchate to send instead
[12:12] <HymnToLife> (damn lots of typos tonight)
[12:12] <mikeb> settings --> advanced --> auto replace
[12:12] <Babacom> well ... the good news is i know it is possible ... the bad news is i don't know how ;)
[12:12] <GazzaK> add them all to the list HymnToLife
[12:14] <arathald> hi, im having a problem with file sharing in nfs (for pov-anywhere distributed rendering system) -- can anyone help?
[12:17] <arathald> whenever i try to start up povany_client, It tells me "File size limit exceeded", and it did tht for even editing a text file through gedit
[12:18] <Billionaire> Hi
[12:18] <Billionaire> I'm installing ubuntu breezy 5.10
[12:18] <whiter> okay
[12:18] <whiter> have fun
[12:18] <whiter> it isnt hard :)
[12:18] <Dkt> If I want to watch something on the internet, which requires Windows Media Player, what should I do? I got Xtotem installed.
[12:19] <whiter> Dkt through your browser?
[12:19] <Dkt> Yes
[12:19] <charles> Ok... last time I try that.
[12:19] <Billionaire> but now i must to install driver acx, but when I try to do: make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`pwd`
[12:19] <Billionaire> return this error:
[12:19] <pozdiy> trying to access my windows partition from under Breezy, can do it as administrator using "disks", but then stugg is mounted with permissions for root only, is there an easy gui way to allow access to that partition regular user too?
[12:19] <whiter> Dkt what browser are you using, firefox?
[12:19] <Dkt> whiter, yes
[12:19] <Billionaire> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[12:19] <HymnToLife> !tell pozdiy about ntfs
[12:19] <whiter> ok Dkt, you need to install mozilla-mplayer and mplayer
[12:19] <whiter> so do this... "sudo apt-get install mplayer"
[12:19] <whiter> well
[12:20] <whiter> "sudo apt-get install mplayer-586"
[12:20] <pozdiy> HymnToLife: tnx
[12:20] <Dkt> whiter, okey :) Thanks
[12:20] <suppaman> hello
[12:20] <intelikey> well im satisfied that the next reboot will be quite a hassel.  (dist-upgrade)
[12:20] <Polypterus> Does anyone know which command will work when trying to access my Thunderbird inbox from amsn? Am using Thunderbird 1.5 (Automatix version "Mail/News") and the newest version of amsn, in Breezy & Gnome.
[12:20] <whiter> then "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"
[12:20] <suppaman> is there an officila ubuntu cd cover ?
[12:20] <evi|one> Hello. How can I start my PPPoE connection automatically? I got tired of typing "sudo pppoeconf" after every reboot, typing the password etc.
[12:20] <charles> Does anyone know why x.org fails to start when I edit the settings with a valid res and refresh rate?
[12:20] <suppaman> official
[12:20] <whiter> ok now
[12:20] <Billionaire> why I don't have build symbolic link in /lib/modules/`uname -r`?
[12:20] <whiter> who asked the question about root needing to install packages or whtever
[12:20] <me> ey i cant connect to MSN via Gaim
[12:20] <me> how can i fix this
[12:20] <HymnToLife> evi|one> don't reboot :)
[12:21] <filip_> somethings wrong with my sound. it was playing fine a few mins ago... not anymore. how do i restart the sound system without rebooting?
[12:21] <Dkt> whiter, I couldnt find the packages
[12:21] <suppaman> filip_: gnome ?
[12:21] <whiter> Dkt you need to enable universe packages
[12:21] <filip_> kde
[12:21] <whiter> Dkt... your running KDE or GNOME ?
[12:21] <suppaman> filip_: don't know
[12:21] <Dkt> whiter, Gnome
[12:21] <evi|one> HymnToLife: no, I'm being serious.
[12:21] <whiter> ok Dkt do this, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:22] <HymnToLife> evi|one> so am I
[12:22] <whiter> find the two lines that are commented out that say "universe" at the end
[12:22] <charles> God damn...
[12:22] <whiter> and uncomment them
[12:22] <charles> Ok I know that for PS2 Linux there are monitor settings for the Sony HMD-A240
[12:22] <charles> But if I put correct settings in for X.org it crashes
[12:23] <charles> Anyone know where I can find the X settings for PS2 Linux so I could perhaps copy the info.
[12:23] <evi|one> HymnToLife: that's not a reasonable solution for me.
[12:23] <whiter> who asked the question about needing root for the package manager
[12:23] <whiter> or something around those lines
[12:23] <whiter> i forgot what he asked and i cleared the buffer
[12:23] <Dkt> whiter, like: "deb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe"
[12:23] <arathald> everything I found online about "FIle size limit" exceeded refers to a 2-Gb size limit, but I can't even edit a text file from the client computer
[12:23] <whiter> yes Dkt
[12:24] <Dkt> whiter, What was I supposed to do with em? Put in Synaptic?
[12:24] <arathald> using NFS
[12:24] <whiter> no
[12:24] <whiter> just edit the file
[12:24] <whiter> and save it
[12:24] <whiter> then do "sudo apt-get update"
[12:25] <Dkt> edit them like how? Remove "#" or something?
[12:25] <whiter> yes
[12:25] <whiter> remove the # before the line
[12:25] <whiter> which is a comment
[12:26] <Lous> anyone got success with any hybrid tv cardbus under ubuntu?
[12:26] <evi|one> Anyone has any other ideas? I want my PPPoE connection go start automatically after each reboot.
[12:26] <arathald> anyone have any idea what's wong/how I could fix it?
[12:26] <charles> Eh...
[12:27] <charles> Is there a tool for x.org that can configure the server for use with this monitor properly?
[12:27] <erUSUL> evi|one: afaik you can put an stanza in /etc/network/interfaces.
[12:27] <bradley_> hi, i installed ubuntu 386 on my laptop last week and i saw something that said 686 for anything above pII, are there any problems with upgrading on notebooks?
[12:27] <erUSUL> charles: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:27] <whiter> you wont notice any different bradley
[12:28] <whiter> it doesnt matter
[12:28] <charles> No that breaks it eruSUl
[12:28] <|Sivik|> !xen
[12:28] <ubotu> hmm... xen is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ .
[12:28] <charles> I will not mess with that crap again
[12:28] <charles> something else that doesn't break it using valid values.
[12:28] <bradley_> really what is the difference then?
[12:28] <charles> I'm looking to make it work not break erUSUL
[12:29] <whiter> bradley, to you the only different is the numbers
[12:29] <whiter> its code different
[12:29] <whiter> you wont notice anything though
[12:29] <bradley_> oh, well i guess that makes my day easier.
[12:30] <arathald> charles: when you configure, which option are you choosing (beginner, moderate and advanced, or sumin like that...)?
[12:30] <charles> Yes I used medium and advanced
[12:30] <charles> On medium I tried 1024x768 @ 75hz
[12:30] <charles> which broke it
[12:30] <sydw> how do I check what version of Ubuntu I have? I have forgotten whether I installed 5.10 or 6.06
[12:30] <charles> on advanced I put what it actually is
[12:30] <charles> 1024x768 @ 85hz
[12:30] <arathald> charles: what do you mean by "broke"?
[12:30] <charles> which broke it.
[12:31] <charles> as in the xserver wouldn't start.
[12:31] <sydw> anyone using soundblaster audigy SE soundcard
[12:31] <ZeZu> hmm, dapper desktop cd is an installer as well? the site makes it seem like a livecd
[12:31] <Dkt> whiter, now it says some packages is needed, but I have removed the "#" from all the source-files in that document and updated and so on. And I have tried the commands you gave me too.
[12:31] <charles> here hold
[12:32] <arathald> is anyone familiar with NFS?
[12:32] <charles> "(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration."
[12:32] <ZeZu> anyone? I did ask in the proper place first but they are ignoring my question
[12:32] <charles> is what is says when I edit it with the higher than 60hz refresh BUT still valid values.
[12:32] <whiter> can you paste your sources.list to the paste bin please?
[12:32] <bradley_> i have another question it there some sort of GUI (that is the pointy-clicky windows boxes right?) for setting up nvidia (duel monitors etc). i've used nvidia-settings and nvtv but niether have all the settings (resolutions and such) that i am looking for.
[12:32] <arathald> charles: what kind of monitor are you using?
[12:33] <Kithe> Hi, anyone know if there is a hack to get full video memory from the 855gm chipset?
[12:33] <charles> Sony HMD-A240
[12:33] <charles> I've tried googling about that monitor and linux but nothing is out there
[12:33] <oti_> hey ppl
[12:33] <arathald> charles: what type of monitor is that, im not familar with the model number?
[12:33] <charles> CRT
[12:33] <oti_> got a question about Nvidia and Ubuntu
[12:33] <Jinkguns> When did the last Ubuntu release go final?
[12:33] <Jinkguns> I thought breezy wasn't due untill june?
[12:34] <MisterN> dapper that was?
[12:34] <Jinkguns> oh
[12:34] <MisterN> -?+.
[12:34] <Jinkguns> dapper
[12:34] <Jinkguns> okay
[12:34] <Madpilot> Jinkguns, Dapper is due June 1st
[12:34] <charles> 30-76 Hori and 48-120 Vert is the range
[12:34] <Jinkguns> I got Dapper confused with Breezy
[12:34] <charles> But the xserver fails when I enter that info
[12:34] <arathald> charles: what kind of vid. card are you using?
[12:34] <ZeZu> i guess i'll find out the hard way
[12:34] <ZeZu> fuck it
[12:34] <sydw> embarassingly simple question: how to tell what version of Ubuntu i have installed?
[12:34] <charles> GeForce 6800 128MB.
[12:35] <oti_> trying to install Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, but getting an error with GCC Version
[12:35] <arathald> charles: i assume you have it set to use nvidia drivers....
[12:35] <erUSUL> sydw: cat /etc/lsb-release
[12:36] <sydw> erUSUL, thank you!
[12:36] <oti_> anybody
[12:36] <oti_> somebody... :D
[12:36] <unforcer> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~simona/temperaturi.html
[12:36] <unforcer> :) its -300C :)
[12:36] <charles> Yes
[12:36] <charles> In the log it says (II) NV(0): Ranges: V min: 48  V max: 120 Hz, H min: 30  H max: 70 kHz, PixClock max 130 MHz
[12:36] <Madpilot> oti_, use the Nvidia drives in Ubuntu's repos, no compiling needed...
[12:36] <charles> So obviously it knows the monitors correct ranges
[12:37] <erUSUL> sydw: np
[12:37] <charles> so why is it when I configure the xserver to use these values it fails.
[12:37] <oti_> done that, but tryna get dualview support
[12:37] <charles> and I quote from the xorg.0.log
[12:37] <charles> (II) NV(0): Ranges: V min: 48  V max: 120 Hz, H min: 30  H max: 70 kHz, PixClock max 130 MHz
[12:37] <charles> (II) NV(0): Monitor name: HMD-A240
[12:38] <charles> But if I put that same info in for the advanced config it will fail to start....
[12:38] <arathald> question: why does the remote computer on an NFS system keep telling me that I've exceeded the file size limit even when trying to create small files or make small changes?
[12:39] <oti> Any south africans in here?
[12:39] <charles> (II) NV(0): Ranges: V min: 48  V max: 120 Hz, H min: 30  H max: 70 kHz, PixClock max 130 MHz
[12:39] <charles> (II) NV(0): Monitor name: HMD-A240
[12:39] <arathald> can anyone help me?
[12:40] <arathald> or point me to where I can get help on this?
[12:40] <HunterZ> bye
[12:40] <arathald> I need to get this working for a final project for school
[12:40] <oti> aparently not arathald
[12:40] <Wizz_Kidd> anyone here know how to compile GTK i forget how to do the gcc command
[12:41] <charles> ok I configed it for the proper ranges... heres to x failing again and again.
[12:41] <ZeZu> apt-get install gtk perhaps
[12:41] <bradley_> so there is no GUI for nvidia dual monitors?
[12:41] <charles> I honestly like ubuntu but if I can't get my refresh up to 85hz screw this.
[12:41] <ZeZu> from source you downloaded
[12:41] <ZeZu> just unrar/tar/bzip and configure then make
[12:43] <coucho> Need help configuring postfix
[12:44] <coucho> anyone?
[12:44] <charles> anyone know where I can find a guide for videogen?
[12:44] <coucho> google?
[12:45] <charles> lol
[12:45] <charles> nope
[12:45] <coucho> aw
[12:45] <charles> all that links to is mythtv posts
[12:45] <charles> involving it
[12:45] <charles> but no faq... no explanation of the switches...
[12:45] <charles> nothing that actually tells you what any of the switches mean.
[12:46] <coucho> well i don't even know what videogen is so i'm of not much help to you
[12:47] <charles> !info videogen
[12:47] <ubotu> videogen: (Create arbitrary-res modelines using hardware parameters), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.32-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 24 kB, Installed size: 132 kB
[12:47] <charles> as for the command lines... I'm having problems getting info on how to use it.
[12:47] <coucho> jeez
[12:48] <coucho> wtf are arbitraty-res modelines?
[12:48] <andrejkw> Hey guys
[12:48] <andrejkw> I am having a prov
[12:48] <coucho> hi
[12:48] <coucho> me too
[12:48] <andrejkw> Compilation of my Linksys firmware fails on ubuntu
[12:48] <andrejkw> with this error:
[12:48] <andrejkw> ./tkparse < /home/andrejkw/Desktop/wrtp54g_cyt_1_00_37_050616_gpl/tools/configs/config.in >> kconfig.tk
[12:48] <andrejkw> -: 5: unknown command
[12:51] <coucho> apparently there's no-one in here that actually knows how to solve a problem
[12:51] <andrejkw> coucho: whats ur problem?
[12:51] <coucho> configging postfix
[12:51] <namit> yes what is your proble
[12:51] <namit> m
[12:51] <namit> apt-get postfix
[12:51] <coucho> ^
[12:51] <coucho> yeah i know that much XD
[12:51] <Dkt> I want to open my music-files which are on my other harddrive, (which is named sdb 1 here in ubuntu). But I cant play them, they say I dont have access to open it. How do i get access?
[12:52] <namit> well what is the problem
[12:52] <avu> i spy with my little eye something looking like a help vampire
[12:52] <andrejkw> Dkt: how did u mount it?
[12:52] <coucho> namit: it doesn't work XD
[12:52] <andrejkw> Dkt: make sure you mount it using fstab
[12:52] <Dkt> Whats fstab?
[12:52] <HymnToLife> !fstab
[12:52] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[12:52] <namit> what do you want to configure
[12:53] <linoleaum_dynami> hello, I just tried to install dapper drake off of a liveCD, and I ran into a problem where GRUB failed to install
[12:53] <HymnToLife> I dont like answers without the first letter capitalized
[12:53] <suppaman> is there an officila ubuntu cd cover ?
[12:53] <tritium> linoleaum_dynami: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[12:53] <coucho> namit:i want to be able to send mails through php and deliver it externally
[12:53] <suppaman> again "official"
[12:53] <namit> what powerpoint viewer does anyone use
[12:53] <suppaman> namit: keynote
[12:53] <ompaul> namaste, openoffice
[12:54] <namit> ok and i take you have php and postfix working seperately?
[12:54] <_JuDgEn_> how do i get libflac6?
[12:54] <linoleaum_dynami> tritium, thanks
[12:54] <HymnToLife> !no fstab is <reply> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily and automatically configured with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter. See also !partitions
[12:54] <ubotu> okay, HymnToLife
[12:54] <_JuDgEn_> only libflac7 is abalable through apt
[12:54] <RadiantFire> arathald, does the NFS system have user or group quotas?
[12:54] <coucho> namit: i just removed postfix, php is working fine as far as i know
[12:55] <namit> coucho: do apt-get install postfix
[12:55] <Dkt> andrejkw, it said: "Ignoring /dev/sdb1 - already in /etc/fstab
[12:55] <Dkt> No usable windows/mac partitions found
[12:55] <Dkt> "
[12:55] <ompaul> coucho, put a sudo in front of that
[12:55] <_JuDgEn_> any ideas?
[12:55] <tritium> HymnToLife: please don't.  diskmounter is not official, nor should it be part of the fstab response for ubotu
[12:55] <arathald> radiantfire: not unless it has them by default
[12:55] <coucho> ompaul: i know
[12:56] <HymnToLife> tritium> I just corrected some typos...
[12:56] <arathald> radiantfire: i didnt set any
[12:56] <tritium> HymnToLife: okay
[12:56] <PVZ> what is a "libXext"?
[12:56] <amphi> PVZ: part of X
[12:56] <namit> have you got a domain
[12:56] <coucho> namit: me?
[12:56] <Dkt> !partitions
[12:56] <ubotu> Go to System -> Administration -> Disks and enter your password. Pick the disk your partition is on from the list, then click the 'Partitions' tab. Select the partition you want to mount, set an access path (mount point) and click 'Enable'.
[12:56] <namit> coucho: can you send emails from command line?
[12:57] <coucho> namit: that depends, local or external?
[12:57] <amphi> PVZ: "X Window System miscellaneous extension library", quoth apt-cache
[12:57] <PVZ> amphi, amaroK 1.3.9 installation says I don't have a libXext,how do I...er,get one?
[12:57] <amphi> PVZ: you install from source?
[12:57] <namit> coucho: either
[12:58] <PVZ> yes
[12:58] <PVZ> i downloaded the .tar.bz2
[12:58] <suppaman> is there an official ubuntu cd cover ? I googled and found this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6147 but the link isn't working anymore, can anyone help with me with this ?
[12:58] <coucho> namit: local seems to work, when i did apt-get update i got a message at the end that i had new mail
[12:58] <amphi> PVZ: why? ;) if you're installing from source, you should really know how to fix this...
[12:58] <insanityyy> is anybody here who has installed FrostWire? i can't fix the runFrost.sh
[12:58] <PVZ> amphi, I don't :P
[12:59] <Madpilot> suppaman, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[12:59] <namit> coucho: a k so that works ok how abotu externaly have you got a router with a firewall?
[12:59] <amphi> PVZ: why are you building amarok yourself?
[12:59] <PVZ> i just didn't find a .deb
[12:59] <namit> coucho: or you connected straight to internet
[12:59] <coucho> namit: yeah my modem does have a firewall
[12:59] <Madpilot> !info amarok
[12:59] <ubotu> amarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5191 kB, Installed size: 13888 kB
[12:59] <suppaman> Madpilot: thanks
[01:00] <PVZ> so I downloaded a .tar.bz2 and the people from #ubuntu-br helped me install it
[01:00] <PVZ> but now the damn channel is almost empty
[01:00] <ompaul> suppaman, there is search for the artwork on the www.ubuntu.com website, it might be near the downloads link.
[01:00] <coucho> namit: but outgoing shouldn't be a problem if i don't have the smtp port opened, should it?
[01:00] <amphi> PVZ: better to go with the packaged version if you can; if not, you want the libXext dev package (for the lib headers)
[01:01] <suppaman> ompaul: I'm not able to find it on main page
[01:01] <coucho> namit: cause i just want to send mail, not recieve it
[01:01] <PVZ> amphi, I prefer the packaged version too,but I couldn't find it
[01:01] <charles> Modeline "1024x768" 90.11 1024 1056 1120 1312 768 770 773 808  # 90 MHz, 68.7 kHz, 85.0 Hz
[01:01] <charles> Now how would I use this with X.org?
[01:01] <namit> coucho: yes just checking setup, try sent an email to an email account that you have a hotmail or gmail account
[01:01] <amphi> !info amarok
[01:01] <ubotu> amarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5191 kB, Installed size: 13888 kB
[01:01] <suppaman> Madpilot: too bad xubuntu is missing..
[01:01] <amphi> PVZ: ^^^
[01:01] <coucho> namit: how exectly?
[01:01] <coucho> *exactly
[01:02] <namit> coucho: sudo atp-get install mutt
[01:02] <Madpilot> suppaman, Xubuntu is brand new - not as many things for it as the older two versions
[01:02] <amphi> PVZ: the downside of installing from source is that you must maintain it yourself in perpetuity
[01:02] <coucho> namit: done
[01:03] <PVZ> amphi, if I install it from source I can't update it on a packaged version later?
[01:03] <namit> coucho: type in mutt
[01:03] <coucho> namit: btw, i'm working via an ssh connection
[01:03] <charles> Is there anyway to use this information that can be used in x86free with x.org? Modeline "1024x768" 90.11 1024 1056 1120 1312 768 770 773 808  # 90 MHz, 68.7 kHz, 85.0 Hz
[01:03] <charles> ?
[01:03] <namit> coucho: yes its command line
[01:03] <suppaman> Madpilot: I'm gonna doing it just now
[01:03] <coucho> k
[01:03] <ente> join/ #ubuntu-es
[01:03] <namit> are ou on irc using it
[01:03] <coucho> namit: putty
[01:04] <namit> coucho: are you on irc threw ssh
[01:04] <amphi> PVZ: you could install the packaged version and remove the one you built, yes
[01:04] <coucho> namit: no
[01:04] <namit> ok well then just go into mutt
[01:04] <coucho> namit: mirc
[01:04] <coucho> namit: i'm there
[01:04] <PVZ> amphi, how do I remove the one I built? haha
[01:04] <namit> coucho: create new email
[01:05] <coucho> namit: done
[01:05] <Stormx2> where do I put nautilus scripts in dapper?
[01:05] <soundray> charles: add it to the Monitor section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:05] <namit> did you send it to an external account send one to me namit@namit.org
[01:05] <ente> join / #ubuntu-es
[01:05] <dooglus> I'm looking for a font called '-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-15' to X11 - how can I tell if it's available, which package, etc?
[01:05] <amphi> PVZ: aye, there's the rub ;) you can try 'sudo make uninstall' and hope the makefile has an uninstall target (some do), or do 'make -n install | less' to see what make install did, and manually undo it
[01:05] <soundray> ente, put the / at the beginning
[01:05] <namit> soundray: you helping him setup xglc
[01:05] <namit> soundray: you helping him setup xgl
[01:06] <ente> donde esta ubuntu en espaol
[01:06] <amphi> !es
[01:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:06] <coucho> namit: it sais it's sent
[01:06] <PVZ> ente: /j #ubuntu-es
[01:06] <dooglus> PVZ: use 'sudo checkinstall' instead of 'sudo make install' - then you can always uninstall it, using the package system
[01:06] <soundray> namit: sorry?
[01:06] <PVZ> ente: no es "join / #ubuntu-es"
[01:06] <amphi> coucho: mutt does?
[01:06] <coucho> amphi: yes
[01:07] <amphi> coucho: what does postfix say?
[01:07] <maike-maus2> hello. at reboot after installation of breezy the system stops ap "starting hotplug subsystem". Does anybody know how to solve the problem? I use a notebook, packard bell w3420
[01:07] <ente> gracias
[01:07] <amphi> de nada
[01:07] <coucho> amphi: where can i read that?
[01:07] <ompaul> suppaman, it must be close to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[01:07] <amphi> coucho: mailq will show you if the mail is still queued
[01:07] <linux_galore> maike-maus2: turn power management and plug and play off in the bios
[01:07] <PVZ> amphi: i think the guy knew that the channel is ubuntu-es,he was trying "join / #ubuntu-es"
[01:08] <amphi> PVZ: ah
[01:08] <PVZ> anyway
[01:08] <suppaman> ompaul: thanks, Madpilot gave it to me a few rows up
[01:08] <soundray> maike-maus2: listen to linux_galore, and also try boot options: noapic and nolapic
[01:08] <amphi> PVZ: make uninstall working for you?
[01:08] <coucho> amphi: there are some things in there
[01:08] <ompaul> suppaman, :-/ well I was gone a while
[01:08] <PVZ> amphi: i didn't even install it yet :)
[01:08] <lampshade> Would anyone happen to know a way of allowing firefox to execute a specific command(not a program) for a file?  Like so that when I click on a torrent, it sends that torrent to wine utorrent.exe ?
[01:08] <amphi> PVZ: oh, good ;)
[01:08] <maike-maus2> linux_galore: I'm not sure if there are these options in my bios but I'll try it.
[01:08] <dooglus> amphi: even if there is an uninstall target, you can't be sure it will uninstall everything.  much better is to use checkinstall
[01:08] <lampshade> because utorrent under linux with wine still feels faster than Azureus
[01:09] <linux_galore> maike-maus2: yeah with HP the bios is usually pretty crippled
[01:09] <namit> coucho: /var/log/posfix
[01:09] <P0ldy> lampshade, utorrent is working with wine now?
[01:09] <coucho> namit: don't think that exists
[01:09] <maike-maus2> soundray: do I have to write this in a "special way" ?
[01:09] <coucho> namit: it's empty
[01:09] <amphi> dooglus: never used it myself, 'make -n install | less' and rm work for me (I only compile a few small things), but checkinstall is good, I'm sure
[01:09] <linux_galore> lampshade: I installed Ktorrent 2.0 last night, totally stomped on Azureus for speed
[01:10] <soundray> dooglus: have you looked at xfontsel?
[01:10] <linux_galore> lampshade: also used hardly any ram
[01:10] <notme> I can't seem to get audio recording to work in breezy, I just get silence.
[01:10] <linux_galore> ktorrent 2.0 now supports DHT too now
[01:10] <namit> coucho: send yourself an email on the linux box just do "mail root hello then Ctrl + D out of it"
[01:10] <lampshade> linux_galore, far out, I'll take a look
[01:10] <P0ldy> linux_galore, mainline or Azureus's implementation?
[01:10] <lampshade> thanks
[01:11] <linux_galore> P0ldy: not sure to be honest
[01:11] <maike-maus2> linux_galore: I can't find these options in my bios... other ways?
[01:11] <soundray> maike-maus2: during boot, select "edit" on the first entry of the grub boot menu. Go to the kernel line and append 'noapic' (just the word, not the quotes) and boot. If that doesn't help, try 'nolapic'
[01:11] <notme> I've tried Sound Recorder and sox rec
[01:11] <linux_galore> maike-maus2: try boot options: noapic and nolapic
[01:12] <linux_galore> try boot options: noapic and nolapic
[01:12] <coucho> namit: command not found
[01:12] <linux_galore> opps
[01:12] <mxpxpod> I just installed dapper onto a serial ATA hard drive and I can't get it to boot from the hard drive... I can boot from the cd onto the hard drive, but it won't automatically boot... is there something I need to flag on the boot partition?
[01:12] <notme> I've got the line-in playing through fine.
[01:12] <namit> mail not found?
[01:12] <coucho> yup
[01:12] <maike-maus2> soundray and linux_galore: thanks, I'll try it
[01:12] <namit> coucho: sudo apt-get install mail
[01:13] <coucho> namit: couldn't find package mail
[01:13] <namit> coucho: is postfix installed
[01:13] <soundray> mxpxpod: have you installed grub to the hard drive?
[01:13] <coucho> namit: yes it is
[01:13] <PVZ> oh,another question I have,I installed Neverball but it doesn't appear in the panel's menus,what can I do to make it "appear"?
[01:13] <mxpxpod> soundray: yeah, it's on sda2, if I remember right
[01:13] <linux_galore> maike-maus2: what the model of the laptop
[01:13] <bjv> ubuntu kernel: [4351031.610000]  usb 2-8.4: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 25
[01:13] <bjv> address 25?  how can i get a /dev/ sort of address from the terminal?
[01:13] <maike-maus2> linux_galore: w3420 (packard bell)
[01:13] <bjv> im not sure where my camera is showing up at
[01:13] <namit> coucho: that should have installed mail
[01:14] <linux_galore> maike-maus2: see if i can find a help sheet for that
[01:14] <coucho> namit: apparently it didn't :S
[01:14] <soundray> mxpxpod: you put it in the partition rather than the MBR? In that case, you should use fdisk to mark the partition as bootable.
[01:14] <amphi> coucho: doing 'tail -f /var/log/mail.log' while you mess with this stuff may be informative
[01:14] <mxpxpod> soundray: aha... ok
[01:14] <soundray> mxpxpod: alternatively, use ubotu's link to fix grub:
[01:14] <soundray> !tell mxpxpod about grub
[01:14] <maike-maus2> linux_galore: that would be great, thx
[01:15] <coucho> amphi: a lot of "no route to host" stuff
[01:15] <Subhuman> !tell Subhuman about grub
[01:15] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[01:15] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:15] <dooglus> soundray: xfontsel only shows fonts I have.  I'm looking for one I don't have.
[01:15] <mxpxpod> soundray: if I flag it as bootable, will it blow away what's on there?
[01:15] <mxpxpod> soundray: it's been a while since I've used 386... been on ppc for so long
[01:15] <linux_galore> maike-maus2: sure thats right I getting no such model, in fact thats a HP printer model lol
[01:16] <dooglus> amphi: the nice thing about checkinstall is that it leaves you with a .deb package.  you can install and uninstall it like any other package file.
[01:16] <soundray> dooglus: oh, I thought you needed to know whether you have it or not.
[01:16] <dooglus> soundray: I know I don't have it.  I'm wondering how I can find out whether it's available in the ubuntu repositories or not.
[01:16] <amphi> dooglus: sounds good
[01:16] <dooglus> soundray: I would use apt-file to search, but the font files have names which don't match the names that X uses for them.
[01:16] <namit> coucho: sorry man really am to have to leave ya like this go to pick up missas try the doc "i know hait when people do this to me" http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html
[01:16] <maike-maus2> linux_galore: nice, this would be a "real" linux printer with ubuntu installed  ;-)
[01:17] <soundray> mxpxpod: no, setting the flag won't destroy anything.
[01:17] <mxpxpod> soundray: and it won't matter if I have a partition before the boot partition, right?
[01:17] <amphi> coucho: I might be able to give you a hand, I run postfix (and mutt ;) here
[01:17] <linux_galore> maike-maus2: so the model is definitely a PB 3420
[01:17] <coucho> amphi: thnx man
[01:17] <soundray> mxpxpod: no, unless it is flagged as bootable, in which case you should unflag it.
[01:18] <maike-maus2> linux_galore: yes, the whole model name is: packard bell easynote w3420
[01:18] <mxpxpod> soundray: nah, my first partition is my swap partition... second is boot, third root, fourth home
[01:18] <Subhuman> maike-maus2, I didn't see your original question, but my HP photosmart 8150 is a great photo printer which works flawlessly with ubuntu out of the box :D
[01:18] <amphi> coucho: is postfix running?
[01:18] <coucho> amphi: yup
[01:18] <soundray> mxpxpod: that's irrelevant. It could still be flagged as bootable, depending on what the drive was used for before.
[01:19] <coucho> amphi: 3 msgs in mailq
[01:19] <nzx> hey does anyone have the link to the hellanzb howto ?
[01:19] <amphi> coucho: 'sudo netstat -plunt | grep :25' shows 'master' listening on port 25, right?
[01:19] <mxpxpod> soundray: hmm, good point
[01:19] <mxpxpod> soundray: so do I want grub in the mbr?
[01:20] <soundray> mxpxpod: as a general rule, yes.
[01:20] <mxpxpod> soundray: ok, cool
[01:20] <soundray> mxpxpod: especially if you haven't got any other operating systems on the same drive.
[01:20] <coucho> amphi: don't know
[01:20] <mxpxpod> soundray: yeah, I don't... this is linux only :)
[01:20] <soundray> mxpxpod: btw...
[01:20] <amphi> coucho: you could run the command and see... I expect it is, just want to be sure ;)
[01:21] <soundray> mxpxpod: ubotu gave you three links -- I meant this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:21] <mxpxpod> soundray: yeah, I figured :)
[01:21] <coucho> tcp 0  0  127.0.0.1:25  0.0.0.0:25  listen  1
[01:21] <coucho> that's what it says
[01:21] <soundray> mxpxpod: I just thought I'd tell you because it isn't obvious from the title...
[01:22] <mxpxpod> soundray: and I want to follow the instructions in "Using the LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader"
[01:22] <coucho> amphi: tcp 0  0  127.0.0.1:25  0.0.0.0:25  listen  1
[01:22] <soundray> mxpxpod: if the live CD is what you have, yeah. You can follow the install-CD-based section as well.
[01:22] <coucho> amphi: 0122/master
[01:23] <amphi> coucho: ok
[01:23] <coucho> so probably 10122/master
[01:23] <coucho> or something
[01:23] <amphi> coucho: in mutt, does sending a mail to root@localhost work?
[01:23] <amphi> coucho: yeah, the number is the PID
[01:23] <coucho> no phukkin clue
[01:23] <coucho> ah
[01:23] <mxpxpod> soundray: oh, right :)
[01:24] <amphi> coucho: try in mutt, to send a mail to root@localhost
[01:24] <mxpxpod> soundray: the thing is, I already have ubuntu installed, so I don't need to re-install
[01:24] <coucho> amphi: did it
[01:24] <mxpxpod> just put grub on the mbr
[01:24] <amphi> coucho: it worked?
[01:24] <hyperstream> how can i roll back to the previous nvidia drivers? current is: NVIDIA 87.56 id like to use: NVidia 7676
[01:24] <Bilford> A 'Vista Capable' PC will require at least an 800MHz processor, 512MB of system memory, a DirectX 9 capable graphics card, a 40GB hard drive with at least 15GB of free space, a DVD drive, and audio and internet capabilities.
[01:24] <soundray> mxpxpod: I know, that's what my advice is based on. Look at the first section, it doesn't mention reinstalling.
[01:25] <coucho> amphi: don't know, where can i check that?
[01:25] <mxpxpod> soundray: I could probably do that from within  ubuntu since I can boot into linux from the install cd
[01:25] <Dkt> I just downloaded a ".deb" file, how do I drive it so I can install it? It is in my home folder
[01:25] <hyperstream> Dkt, dpkg -i file.deb
[01:25] <amphi> coucho: what files are in /var/mail ?
[01:25] <soundray> mxpxpod: you could, if you want to venture off the beaten track.
[01:26] <mxpxpod> soundray: :)
[01:26] <coucho> amphi: nikos and www-data
[01:26] <hyperstream> is it possible to roll back on nvidia drivers?
[01:26] <maike-maus2> linux_galore: noapic and nolapic doesn't work - any other ideas to solve the hotplug problem?
[01:26] <linux_galore> maike-maus2: lol they must have sold 3 of them because there is no reference to that model "easynote" yes but not that model
[01:26] <amphi> coucho: does /etc/aliases contain a line 'root: nikos' ?
[01:26] <Dkt> hyperstream, Do I need to be sudo to do it?
[01:27] <hyperstream> yes
[01:27] <Jeff1983> my computer seems to be logging me out automatically after a set period of time. is there some way to change this?
[01:27] <mxpxpod> soundray: ok, with the install CD method, would I do "grub-install /dev/hdaX where X is my /boot partition"?
[01:27] <coucho> amphi: yeah it does
[01:27] <mikomiko> I dont know why i cant listen to youtube video
[01:27] <maike-maus2> linux_galore: so I have a special model, just for woman ;-)
[01:27] <mikomiko> no sounds at all
[01:28] <soundray> maike-maus2: don't know if it helps, but have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/PackardBellR3280 ?
[01:28] <mikomiko> at first it is playing, but then after reloading it is not
[01:28] <amphi> coucho: if you run mutt as 'nikos', you should be able to read the mail - root's mail is being redirected to user 'nikos'
[01:28] <Dkt> hyperstream, Now it says its locked with an other process, what do i need to do then?
[01:28] <linux_galore> maike-maus2: either that or they saw you comming
[01:28] <coucho> k
[01:28] <hyperstream> ahh
[01:28] <hyperstream> close synaptic
[01:28] <amphi> coucho: that's what that line in /etc/aliases does
[01:28] <hyperstream> and everything that uses apt-get/dpkg
[01:29] <hyperstream> like the update manager etc.
[01:29] <soundray> mxpxpod: no, I think in your case it's /dev/sda2
[01:29] <Dkt> ah :) Cools
[01:29] <Cyorxamp> Has anyone else done a computing degree and had to learn alot of nonsensical 'only university used' bollox?  I need to find that I am not the only one frustrated at learning this kind of crap
[01:29] <mxpxpod> soundray: right, my boot partition rather than my root partition ;)
[01:30] <linux_galore> maike-maus2: do you have any usb devices plugged in
[01:30] <Jeff1983> my computer seems to be logging me out automatically after a set period of time. is there some way to change this?
[01:30] <soundray> mxpxpod: yes, I would try that one first.
[01:30] <coucho> amphi: i've got a couple of mails that bitch about sendmail-msp being missing
[01:30] <mxpxpod> soundray: thanks
[01:30] <linux_galore> Jeff1983: its the screen saver
[01:30] <yo> do somebody know how to change the window
[01:30] <phreekbird> sup sup
[01:30] <amphi> Bilford: the 15GB is quite amusing, but sadly I can't believe that vista will really need that much just for itself and notepad
[01:30] <mikomiko> how do i set the autojoin to xchat
[01:30] <Dkt> hyperstream, and now if I cant find it, what to do then?
[01:31] <yo> do somebody know how to change the window color
[01:31] <linux_galore> Jeff1983: need to edit the screen saver setup and turn the login thing off
[01:31] <hyperstream> ahh find it :)
[01:31] <hyperstream> dont be so newbie.
[01:31] <hyperstream> its not hard to figure out these things
[01:31] <coucho> amphi: i do, xp needs pretty much too, and that doesn't use those 'pretty' graphics stuff
[01:31] <Jeff1983> linux_galore: is that in the screensaver preferences? i dont see it here
[01:31] <Dkt> it is :o
[01:31] <amphi> coucho: I'm afraid I don't know what that is
[01:31] <Dkt> :P
[01:31] <soundray> maike-maus2: here's another one that may be useful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[01:31] <hyperstream> you said its in your home directory
[01:32] <coucho> amphi: i first installed sendmail
[01:32] <hyperstream> so run it from there
[01:32] <maike-maus2> linux_galore: no, nothing plugged.. In the german wiki I read to solve the problem I have to blacklist them? Perhaps this can help?
[01:32] <coucho> amphi: but that wasn't working either
[01:32] <amphi> coucho: oh, the horror! ;)
[01:32] <hyperstream> or locate file
[01:32] <coucho> amphi: :D
[01:32] <soundray> maike-maus2: can you boot in recovery mode?
[01:32] <saddsadsa> how do you restart x from the terminal?
[01:32] <amphi> coucho: those mails may just be relics of that
[01:32] <Dkt> I did "cd /home/frantic/" and tried dpkg -i mpeg.deb , didnt work :o
[01:32] <yo> do somebody know how to change the window color
[01:32] <luke> anyone have any idea why my OpenOffice.org 2.0 spellcheck isn't working?
[01:32] <coucho> amphi: they came in today...
[01:32] <yo> i cant find it
[01:33] <coucho> amphi: i removed it yesterday
[01:33] <hyperstream> it didnt works means nothing
[01:33] <hyperstream> what was the result ?
[01:33] <P0ldy> yo, try System > Preferences > Theme on gnome
[01:33] <hyperstream> what was the output.
[01:33] <soundray> luke: you've set a document language for which you have no dictionary installed?
[01:33] <hyperstream> be more descriptive.
[01:33] <amphi> coucho: hmm... dunno; anyway, you can send mail to yourself ;)
[01:34] <luke> soundray, where do I set the language?
[01:34] <coucho> amphi: yeah but that's not exactly what i was going for XD
[01:34] <linux_galore> maike-maus2: yes you can add set things to the hotplug blacklist but first you need to know whats making it hang
[01:34] <amphi> coucho: what happens if you try to send mail to a remote server?
[01:34] <yo> but i cant there set the color
[01:34] <Dkt> "Cant access the archive: The file or directory doesnt exist"
[01:34] <coucho> amphi: no route to host errors
[01:34] <soundray> luke: hold on, I have to look that up
[01:34] <linux_galore> luke: hmm you havent got it turned on or you havent got a dictionary installed
[01:34] <luke> soundray, ah I got it actually.
[01:35] <phreekbird> <-- new to ubuntu .... got some problems runnin apt get ... posting it  on pastebin
[01:35] <amphi> coucho: can you telnet to $REMOTE_HOST 25?
[01:35] <luke> linux_galore, soundray, you were right - I just had to change it from English (Australia) to English (UK)
[01:35] <Dkt> hyperstream, hahhaha, not so strange it didnt work, I wrote .lib instead of .deb. Hahaha, sorry for taking your time.
[01:35] <linux_galore> luke: install the au dictionary
[01:35] <Jeff1983> linux_galore: is that in the screensaver preferences? i dont see it here
[01:36] <coucho> amphi: could not open connection to the host, on port 25: connect failed
[01:36] <maike-maus2> linux_galore: I read some articles in the ubuntuusers forum and the wiki and most of the time it's the realtek ac soundchip - amilo notebooks have the same problem - but I never tested this way...
[01:36] <coucho> amphi: says windows command prompt
[01:36] <Bilford> Jeff1983, is it a laptop
[01:36] <linux_galore> Jeff1983: trying to figure out how to disable it, Im running kubuntu and its in a different place for me
[01:36] <amphi> coucho: windows?
[01:36] <P0ldy> yo, the "color" of what?  change the theme, different colors for windows
[01:36] <linux_galore> soundray: you got gnome were is the option to disable the login timeout in the screen saver
[01:37] <Jeff1983> no. its a desktop
[01:37] <coucho> amphi: yeah i don't have a monitor for the machine that runs linux, plus i play some games
[01:37] <coucho> amphi: hence the ssh connection
[01:37] <amphi> coucho: you're putty'd in to the linux machine?
[01:37] <maike-maus2> soundray: I just tried to boot recovery mode but since 2 inutes there are following lines with azx_get_response timeout... Is ts usual? Or can I abort this?
[01:37] <coucho> amphi: yes
[01:37] <Gnomim> wireless in ubuntu with adapter usb is possible ?
[01:38] <amphi> coucho: oh, ok, I was confused, is all
[01:38] <odin> can anybody tell me why the volume for when I play movies so low that I need to turn my speakers way up (or, rather, how I can fix it)?
[01:38] <hyperstream> Dkt, no worries :)
[01:38] <odin> is so low*
[01:38] <soundray> maike-maus2: that's going to be the same thing that happens in normal mode...
[01:38] <P0ldy> odin, have you set volumes up in alsamixer?
[01:38] <Bilford> odin, , click the Volume
[01:38] <Bilford> click Mixer
[01:38] <Bilford> Raise PCM
[01:38] <amphi> coucho: you did the telnet $REMOTE_HOST on the linux machine?
[01:38] <odin> Bilford:  never played with alsamixer before
[01:39] <Bilford> raise PCM
[01:39] <coucho> amphi: i used windows cmd to telnet to the linux machine
[01:39] <maike-maus2> soundray: oh, then I would say recovery mode doesnt work...
[01:39] <hyperstream> how can i roll back to the previous nvidia drivers? current is: NVIDIA 87.56 id like to use: NVidia 7676 ( is it at all possible to do this ? )
[01:39] <phreekbird> nm looks like i forgot to put sudo in front of apt get update .... so whats sudo do anyway?
[01:40] <P0ldy> phreekbird, sudo gives you administrative privileges
[01:40] <amphi> coucho: IIRC from above, postfix is only listening on the loopback interface
[01:40] <hyperstream> super user?
[01:40] <coucho> amphi: i assume that by $REMOTE_HOST you mean the ip of my linux machine
[01:40] <soundray> linux_galore: sorry, I can't find that. Are you sure it can be configured?
[01:40] <joshua> hey guys i need some help in updating my firefox
[01:40] <coucho> amphi: say what now?
[01:40] <joshua> could some one help a newbie out?
[01:40] <P0ldy> joshua, what's the problem?
[01:40] <phreekbird> gotcha thanks P0ldy
[01:40] <amphi> coucho: you want the linux box to act as a mail forwarder for the windows box?
[01:40] <Bilford> just upgrade to Dapper.  it upgrades FF automatically
[01:41] <coucho> amphi: nope i want to send mails through a php script
[01:41] <phreekbird> so instead of doing su i can just use sudo for a command? ... nice, learn somethin new everyday
[01:41] <joshua> im following the instructions on the ubuntu wiki page, and im stuck right after i downloaded the firefox file
[01:41] <linux_galore> soundray: can in kubuntu and one of the user has the login screen popping up after a set time, get the same with kde's screen saver, when it goes into screen saver mode it lock the machine down from malicious usage
[01:41] <P0ldy> phreekbird, the root account (to su to) is disabled by default in ubuntu, you have to use sudo to perform typical activities otherwise done with su to root
[01:42] <P0ldy> joshua, you're upgrading to 1.5 and are trying to install it locally/without apt?
[01:42] <linux_galore> soundray: I never use gnome anymore so Im not sure were to turn it off
[01:42] <soundray> maike-maus2: you should try blacklisting  snd-hda-intel -- do you know how?
[01:42] <joshua> ????
[01:42] <amphi> coucho: ok, so you only need access from localhost (assuming the web server is on the same machine as postfix)
[01:42] <joshua> what is apt?
[01:42] <linux_galore> joshua: package(software) management tool
[01:42] <coucho> amphi: yeah the linux box is my web/file/ftp server
[01:43] <coz_> joshua, you are on breezy ro dapper right?
[01:43] <joshua> i believe so yes
[01:43] <P0ldy> joshua, what version of ubuntu do you have, and what are you trying to upgrade FF to (version)?
[01:43] <coz_> joshua, which is it breezy or dapper ubuntu
[01:43] <joshua> ubuntu 5.10, firefox 1.5.0.4
[01:43] <joshua> 1.5 i mean
[01:43] <drasko> hi all. I can not raise resolution in Gnome. I have GForce2 and Samsung SyncMaster 710v, and resolution wont go over 1024x768. How to fix this?
[01:43] <iand> does anyone know how to mount a vmware virtual drive so I can transfer files?
[01:43] <amphi> coucho: from the netstat output above, postfix is only listening on 127.0.0.1:25, which is why the windows box can't talk to it
[01:43] <odin> Bilford:  thanks a lot, now I can fix all the sound probs I've been having
[01:43] <joshua> i ran the sudo apt-get command
[01:43] <soundray> linux_galore: probably System-Preferences-Screensaver
[01:43] <coz_> joshua, well apt is the bomb it is how you get applications, one way anyway, update the system a whole slew of things
[01:43] <odin> Bilford:  and I thought my right speaker was busted
[01:44] <linux_galore> drasko: whats the driver version
[01:44] <coucho> amphi: k so how do i fix that?
[01:44] <coz_> joshua,  you use it in the terminal
[01:44] <phreekbird> ok still looks like im havin issues
[01:44] <joshua> ok yes i did this  sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[01:44] <phreekbird> http://pastebin.com/728980
[01:44] <coucho> amphi: let me rephrase that: how do i get it to send mail out?
[01:44] <Bilford> odin, do you use XMMS
[01:44] <amphi> coucho: you don't need to, because the windows box is going to connect by http, right? and the webserver can talk to postfix, because they're on the same machine
[01:44] <joshua> then, i backed up my bookmarks, and settings
[01:44] <odin> Bilford:  only for streamtuner
[01:45] <drasko> linux_galore, I use nv
[01:45] <Bilford> the volume in XMMS is the volume of PCM
[01:45] <maike-maus2> soundray and linux_galore: I blacklisted snd-hda-intel and snd_hda_codec with the wiki documentation and now the hotplug problem is solved
[01:45] <Bilford> so if you lower it in XMMS, you lower PCM
[01:45] <joshua> where im stuck is right after, when u download the firefox 1.5 then its telling me a whole lott of other things that i guess right now i dont understand
[01:45] <coucho> amphi: yeah k but how the hell do i get it to send mail to remote addresses?
[01:45] <Bilford> !sources
[01:45] <linux_galore> maike-maus2: you should write about your install and put it on the web so others can learn
[01:45] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:45] <soundray> maike-maus2: well done. Have you got a new problem now?
[01:45] <amphi> coucho: what errors does it give when you try?
[01:45] <maike-maus2> soundray: do you think that I don't need to blacklist the snd_hda_codec ??
[01:46] <coucho> amphi: no route to host
[01:46] <P0ldy> drasko, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  you'll see resolutions in modelines near the bottom of the file.  add the resolution you want in and restart X.  make sure you cp xorg.conf to a backup first.
[01:46] <amphi> coucho: are you using a 'smarthost', BTW?
[01:46] <coucho> amphi: no it's a sattelite
[01:46] <coucho> *satellite
[01:46] <linux_galore> maike-maus2: http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html
[01:46] <amphi> coucho: what do you mean?
[01:46] <maike-maus2> linux_galore: that's a good idea! here do I have to wte it down?
[01:47] <soundray> maike-maus2: I think it's the other one that causes the trouble, but I reckon they both need each other to be of any use.
[01:47] <coucho> amphi: someone tried to help me config postfix yesterday and he told me to config it as a satellite
[01:47] <linux_galore> maike-maus2: look at the bottom of the link I posted there is a submit section
[01:47] <drasko> P0ldy, I use XF86
[01:47] <rak_> hey, i need a little bit of help - i'm trying to install a program called gDesklets and i get this error: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[01:47] <soundray> maike-maus2: so you might as well blacklist both
[01:47] <drasko> P0ldy, and I already added higher resolutions...
[01:47] <amphi> coucho: the linux box connects directly to the internet?
[01:47] <rak_> does anyone know what i shoud do?
[01:48] <coucho> amphi: through a dsl modem
[01:48] <mikeb> rak_, apt-get install gdesklets
[01:48] <coucho> amphi: which also acts as a router
[01:48] <linux_galore> drasko: nv is so so I found no 3D support and you cant get certain resolutions
[01:48] <soundray> !info gdesklets
[01:48] <ubotu> gdesklets: (Architecture for desktop applets), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.35.2-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 404 kB, Installed size: 2260 kB
[01:48] <drasko> linux_galore, so, what shoul I use?
[01:49] <joshua> wow, i really dont understand
[01:49] <maike-maus2> linux_galore and soundray: the configuration goes on and I hope there won't appear new problems  but first of all thanks a lot for your help!!!
[01:49] <linux_galore> drasko: grab a copy of easyubuntu and that will allow you to install nvidia and java etc
[01:49] <MisterN> n8
[01:49] <joshua> i thought it was easy
[01:49] <soundray> maike-maus2: immer gern
[01:49] <amphi> coucho: on the linux box, 'telnet some_mail_server 25' works?
[01:49] <maike-maus2> soundray: immer gern? sag bloss du kannst deutsch? ;-)
[01:50] <soundray> maike-maus2: yes, but not here... pm me?
[01:50] <P0ldy> drasko, Ah, I haven't used Xfree in a long time... it didn't show up in  System > Preferences > Screen Res after that?
[01:50] <Dkt> Someone that can recommend a good Musicplayer? (Not Totem)
[01:50] <amphi> coucho: you on a windows box gw'd through the linux box now?
[01:50] <odin> Bilford:  wait, what setting in alsamixer controls video volume?  so far all other volume is good
[01:50] <rak_> mikeb: it says cannot find package gdesklets
[01:50] <Alinux> Dkt beep-media-player
[01:50] <coucho> amphi: gw'd?
[01:50] <Stormx2> Googling for some shoutcast stuff... Saw the entry from winboard.org... under the forum "Die Windows Community". I only just realised it was german ;-)
[01:50] <linux_galore> drasko: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[01:51] <nzx> hey will the debian version of cross over office work on breezy ?
[01:51] <amphi> coucho: sorry, verbing a noun ;) 'gateway'd'
[01:51] <soundray> maike-maus2: #ubuntu-de?
[01:51] <coucho> ah XD
[01:51] <mikeb> rak_, have you enabled the universe repo?
[01:51] <joshua> ...
[01:51] <rak_> oh, maybe not, i'll try that. it should work when i have the universe repository enabled?
[01:52] <linux_galore> Dkt: best music player on Linux is amarok
[01:52] <amphi> coucho: is that a 'yes'?
[01:52] <mikeb> rak_, it will work when its enabled
[01:52] <coucho> amphi: nope, my dsl modem routes to my linux box and a linksys router, which routes to my windows box XD
[01:52] <maike-maus2> soundray: you got pm... #ubuntu-de? I'm already logged in there...
[01:52] <rak_> thanks mikeb
[01:52] <Dkt> linux_galore, Aint it only for Kubuntu?
[01:52] <amphi> coucho: did telnet work?
[01:52] <mikeb> rak_, np
[01:52] <P0ldy> Dkt, you can use it on gnome if you want to install kde libs.
[01:52] <linux_galore> Dkt: yes and no, you can install amarok in standard ubuntu without install all of kde just the libs
[01:53] <Dkt> Okey
[01:53] <coucho> amphi: i forgot the '25' and now it does nothing
[01:53] <amphi> coucho: with 25 it does nothing?
[01:53] <coucho> amphi: ctrl z doesn't work
[01:53] <Dkt> I will see what I can do, still pretty newbish with Linux.
[01:53] <coucho> amphi: no without it
[01:53] <linux_galore> Dkt: sudo apt-get install amarok
[01:53] <soundray> !tell maike-maus2 about register
[01:54] <amphi> coucho: ctrl-]  and then quit at the telnet prompy
[01:54] <amphi> er, prompt
[01:54] <linux_galore> Dkt: might want to run sudo apt-get update first though
[01:54] <coucho> amphi: i closed putty and opened a new session
[01:54] <coucho> amphi: with the '25' it works
[01:54] <Dkt> linux_galore, Seems like it worked without upade.
[01:55] <Nihil85> hi everyone! i need to join some files splitted in many pieces... how can i do it? is there a sort of hjsplit in linux?
[01:55] <coucho> amphi: it says 220 smtp5.wanadoo.nl ESMTP Postfix
[01:55] <linux_galore> Dkt: just theres a new version out ie ver 1.4 so it might install the older version
[01:55] <amphi> coucho: so there is a route to host ;)
[01:56] <coucho> amphi: yeah that's a surprise :S
[01:56] <amphi> coucho: BTW, you can have problems sending mail to some servers if you aren't an official mail exchanger for your domain, so you might want to use a smarthost
[01:57] <coucho> amphi: how do i do that?
[01:57] <rob_p> amphi:  Postfix uses its own resolver.  It takes it's config from /var/spool/postfix/etc/resolv.conf.  If that file is wrong (doesn't match his /etc/resolv.conf file), then postfix won't resolv any domains.  I'm guessing that is the issue.
[01:58] <amphi> coucho: a 'smarthost' is just a relay host; you can use your isp's if that's convenient; I use gmail's ATM
[01:58] <Dkt> linux_galore, well, now I got amaroK up, but I got all my music at my other harddrive (sdb1), and it seems I cant access it. Any tips on how I could get there maybie?
[01:58] <BAD-IDEA> hi, when i try to use ./build_something  comand in ubuntu im geting -->  rm autom4te.cache
[01:58] <BAD-IDEA> libtoolize --force --automake --copy
[01:58] <BAD-IDEA> 
[01:58] <scottt106> can anyone help me configure a usb wireless NIC using the prism2 drivers?
[01:58] <linux_galore> Nihil85: this may sound weird but you just cat the files  put them all in  one place ie one directory then  cat *.*  >> filename
[01:58] <BAD-IDEA> any idea ?
[01:58] <coucho> amphi: does that require authorisation?
[01:58] <soundray> Nihil85: cat part1 part2 part3 >joinedfile
[01:58] <amphi> coucho: yeah
[01:58] <omar> hola a todos
[01:58] <coucho> amphi: how do you configure that in postfix?
[01:59] <Nihil85> soundray, linux_galore: thanks
[01:59] <amphi> rob_p: ah... didn't think of that, I run dnsmasq here
[01:59] <amphi> coucho: check what rob_p said above
[01:59] <kblog> hi, does anybody know if WinTV GO2 runs under linux?
[01:59] <coucho> amphi: cause i wanted to use a relay host, but i didn't know how to put in the auth info
[01:59] <joshua> is there an easy way to learn ubuntu?????
[01:59] <linux_galore> Nihil85: if you want them in a set order you can do a ls|sort -d|cat >> filename
[01:59] <soundray> joshua: play with it, use it, work with it.
[02:00] <BAD-IDEA> help installing automake in ubuntu from Putty !?
[02:00] <joshua> im trying, im getting a little frustrated tho
[02:00] <coucho> amphi: yeah i saw that, but i'm a total noob, i can't do anything with that
[02:00] <linux_galore> Nihil85: that will sort them in dictionary order
[02:00] <Nihil85> linux_galore: how can i install a tar.gz and a tgz package?
[02:00] <scottt106> Hi, i'm having a little trouble a little trouble installing drivers for my wireless NIC, if somebody could lend me a hand.  :)
[02:01] <linux_galore> NiklasH_work:  tar zxvf filename  or in nautilus right click  then open it
[02:01] <coucho> joshua: look in /etc, check out what's in it, and use man $function a lot
[02:01] <linux_galore> NiklasH_work: the file browser allows you to unpack stuff
[02:01] <coucho> joshua: in /etc most function names can be found
[02:02] <elmendi> hola alguien habla espaol?
[02:02] <amphi> coucho: look at the file /var/spool/postfix/etc/resolv.conf and see that the nameservers correspond to those in /etc/resolv.conf - I'm not sure that's your problem, but it's worth a look
[02:02] <linux_galore> NiklasH_work: tgz  or tar.gz are compressed archived files
[02:02] <amphi> !es
[02:02] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:03] <Nihil85> linux_galore: thanks
[02:03] <coucho> amphi: those 2 contain exactly the same lines
[02:03] <coucho> amphi: my modem's ip and 0.0.0.0
[02:03] <linux_galore> I found a really good tool for newbies that install source tarballs (tar.gz/bz) its called kompile, total no brainer to use, even has a bugfix mode
[02:04] <michael__> Does anyone know how to turn 'CPU: Hyper-Threading is disabled' (dmesg) on I'm using version 2.6.12-10-686-smp and its enabled in bios.
[02:04] <RandolphCarter> linux_galore: nice, although it looks like it's more of a Kubuntu thing
[02:04] <amphi> coucho: 0.0.0.0 ??
[02:04] <coucho> yeah
[02:04] <linux_galore> RandolphCarter: run it under ubuntu, just need the base libs
[02:04] <coucho> amphi: delete that?
[02:05] <linux_galore> RandolphCarter: simplest solution to source installs ive seen so far
[02:05] <linux_galore> RandolphCarter: dont even have to unpack the tarbal
[02:05] <coucho> amphi: btw, my modem has dns ips so that's not a problem i think
[02:05] <amphi> coucho: it should contain lines of the form 'nameserver 123.45.67.89'
[02:05] <amphi> coucho: the 0.0.0.0 is bizarre
[02:05] <RandolphCarter> linux_galore: looks nice - and looks like a good project to port/rewrite for Gnome
[02:05] <coucho> amphi: i thought so
[02:06] <coucho> amphi: but why would postfix put that in there?
[02:06] <amphi> coucho: the install may just have copied it blindly from /etc/resolv.conf
[02:06] <Nihil85> i need a help: at this moment my mouse doesn't work!!!! it's very strange, this never happened to me. The mouse receiver (it's a wireless one) is working good, it receives the mouse signal, but in Ubuntu it disappeared
[02:06] <coucho> mmk
[02:07] <amphi> coucho: try and send a mail and pastebin all the output in /var/log/mail.log
[02:07] <joshua> grrrr
[02:07] <coucho> amphi: using mutt?
[02:08] <joshua> alright im done
[02:08] <amphi> coucho: that'll do
[02:08] <harrisonk> ok so Wine: I added the respositories, apt-get installed wine, and now when i run winecfg it wont save my drive config
[02:08] <amphi> coucho: just tail -f /var/log/mail.log (I assume you're runnning screen in putty)
[02:09] <joshua> im done with ubuntu for the day
[02:09] <joshua> headed back to windows, ill try again tomorrow, thanks for the help guys
[02:09] <coucho> amphi: too late, i already nano'ed it
[02:09] <coucho> but how can i cp it from putty?
[02:09] <mikeb> joshua, the best way to learn something is play with it until you break it
[02:10] <amphi> coucho: click 'n' drag, innit?
[02:10] <amphi> coucho: and shift-insert to paste IIRC
[02:10] <joshua> i understand, i just don tl ike breaking
[02:10] <odin_> I know you can play windows games on linux by using an emulator but at reduced speed, but how well do windows emulators run for older games?
[02:10] <joshua> i like to just understand
[02:10] <mikeb> joshua, so what sort of things do you want to learn?
[02:10] <odin_> like, is the speed reduction even noticeable?
[02:11] <sexcopter8000m> hi, just noticed that my ~/.thumbnails folder is *huge* (about 833MB). can anyone tell me about this directory and if it's safe to delete what's in it?
[02:11] <gordonjcp> odin_: depends what you're trying to play
[02:11] <joshua> how to use linux based system
[02:11] <gordonjcp> odin_: in some cases, windows stuff runs *faster* in wine...
[02:11] <odin_> gordonjcp:  well what about such games as Baldur's Gate and Planescape Torment?
[02:11] <joshua> my uncle told me it was good, its better then windows, ok..then how come its so hard
[02:11] <trpr42> odin_: it varies with the game but generally not too well. more work has been done to make newer games work. just because it is older does not mean it will run any better.
[02:11] <mikeb> joshua, so you want to learn commands or the gui?
[02:11] <harrisonk> anyone have any experience with wine in breezy?
[02:12] <mikeb> harrisonk, yes.
[02:12] <P0ldy> linuxcommand.org if you want to learn the command line.
[02:12] <gordonjcp> odin_: not tried them, I'm more into FPSes
[02:12] <amphi> sexcopter8000m: it's safe, things like gthumb and gqview and perhaps gimp store thumbnails in there; if they're needed, they can be regenerated
[02:12] <joshua> commands
[02:12] <harrisonk> I added the respository, apt-get installed wine, and now when i run winecfg it wont save my drive config
[02:12] <gordonjcp> joshua: because sometimes better things are harder to do
[02:12] <joshua> true, true
[02:12] <coucho> amphi: http://pastebin.com/729011
[02:12] <gordonjcp> joshua: it's quite hard to drive a very high-performance car, but it's definitely better fun
[02:13] <sexcopter8000m> amphi, ok thanks. is it normal for thumbnails to accumulate and not clear themselves out? seems a bit absurd to me...
[02:13] <joshua> all i was trying to do was upgrade my firefox, and its turning out to be a nightmare
[02:13] <harrisonk> i tried to set my C:\ to a mounted NTFS partition i have mounted to /mnt/NTFS
[02:13] <mikeb> harrisonk, hmm
[02:13] <gordonjcp> joshua: ok, how is it turning out to be a nightmare?
[02:13] <joshua> maybe cuz i cant just download and let it do the work
[02:13] <harrisonk> wanna see all the crap it dumps on me when i run winecfg?
[02:14] <gordonjcp> joshua: have you read the page in the wiki?
[02:14] <joshua> yeah
[02:14] <amphi> sexcopter8000m: how do you propose they are cleared out? you could have a cron job remove thumbnails older than a certain date, for example
[02:14] <mikeb> harrisonk, ok
[02:14] <amphi> coucho: *snarf*
[02:14] <gordonjcp> joshua: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion <- that one?
[02:14] <joshua> its that when i try to do that i get stuck after it tells me to download the firefox
[02:14] <joshua> yes
[02:14] <coucho> amphi: que?
[02:15] <gordonjcp> ok, in what way are you getting stuck?
[02:15] <coucho> amphi: a lot of "no route to host" innit?
[02:15] <kblog> does anybody know if the TV-card Hauppauge WinTV Go2 is supported under linux?
[02:16] <gordonjcp> kblog: what chipset is it?
[02:16] <charles> How do I under x.org change the mouse settings?
[02:16] <odin_> does anybody know how to setup fstab to access a windows ntfs partition using fdisk?
[02:16] <odin_> I seem to be doing something wrong
[02:16] <harrisonk> mikeb, http://pastebin.com/729017
[02:16] <charles> I do not wish to redo the rest of the config, just the mouse portion.
[02:16] <sexcopter8000m> amphi, i'm just thinking that people claim linux installations never get bogged down with time (as is the case for xp, some say)... but this looks like a bit of a black hole that'll only ever get bigger. surely it doesn't need a cron job to keep it tidy :S
[02:16] <joshua> after i type the command to back up the bookmark and settings, it says download firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz and change directory you downloaded it to
[02:16] <joshua> but how???
[02:16] <joshua> it wont let me
[02:16] <gordonjcp> kblog: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Hauppauge+WinTV+Go2+linux
[02:17] <gordonjcp> joshua: I don't know what you are saying
[02:17] <charles> odin you can do that without those by using the disk tool under system administration.
[02:17] <sexcopter8000m> amphi, just think it's a bit strange there isn't some design in there to deal with it anyway. perhaps in future development?
[02:17] <gordonjcp> joshua: what won't let you do what?
[02:17] <joshua> at the wiki page im at the installing sectin
[02:17] <charles> just create a folder and mount that folder as the path and then enable it.
[02:17] <amphi> sexcopter8000m: cruft is always a problem ;)
[02:17] <mikeb> harrisonk, have you run "wine" yet?
[02:17] <coucho> amphi: any thoughts on my mail.log?
[02:17] <kblog> gordonjcp: Conexant 881
[02:17] <charles> ok....
[02:17] <charles> how do I configure x.org?
[02:17] <gordonjcp> kblog: did you see the link I posted?
[02:17] <joshua> im following directions on backing up the bookmark settings
[02:17] <sexcopter8000m> amphi, what's cruft?
[02:17] <gordonjcp> joshua: so what *exactly* are you getting stuck at?
[02:18] <mikeb> charles, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:18] <harrisonk> mikeb, if you're talking about just "wine" with no args, then yes and it just gives me syntax
[02:18] <camilo> join %$%&/(/)
[02:18] <kblog> oh, no, but now. thanks.
[02:18] <SonicChao> I am soon switching to Ubuntu, and would like to know if it acts as a GUI
[02:18] <joshua> downloading firefox into a specific directory that i dont know how to download to
[02:18] <tweakt> SonicChao: UI is one of it's primary strengths
[02:18] <mikeb> harrisonk, so its recreated all the configuration it needs
[02:18] <charles> now mike is there a way to do it just for the x.org mouse configuration?
[02:18] <gordonjcp> joshua: it should just download it onto your desktop
[02:18] <joshua> #
[02:18] <joshua> Download firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz from [WWW]  http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ , and change to the directory you downloaded it to.
[02:18] <joshua> #
[02:18] <joshua> Install it to /opt/firefox:
[02:18] <mikeb> charles, not sure
[02:18] <gordonjcp> joshua: you can probably find it with "cd ~/Desktop"
[02:18] <kblog> gordonjcp: well, i used that page... and it dint help
[02:18] <joshua> ??
[02:19] <SonicChao> Oh good, thanks tweak
[02:19] <SonicChao> That was my only problem
[02:19] <tweakt> SonicChao: you should see the screenshots on the ubuntu site
[02:19] <SonicChao> I did
[02:19] <gordonjcp> joshua: have you opened a terminal window?
[02:19] <SonicChao> But, I didnt know for sure
[02:19] <joshua> yeah
[02:19] <Madpilot> joshua, Ubuntu 6.06 will have FF 1.5.x by default, and is due out in about two weeks - it might be easier to wait...
[02:19] <joshua> let me try something
[02:19] <coucho> amphi?
[02:19] <odin_> SonicChao: Ubuntu uses the gnome interface gui
[02:19] <joshua> ...
[02:20] <joshua> hold up i might be learning something her4e
[02:20] <gordonjcp> joshua: in the terminal window type "cd ~/Desktop"
[02:20] <SonicChao> Gnome?
[02:20] <mikeb> SonicChao, you need to do some reading :P~
[02:21] <odin_> !tell SonicChao about gnome
[02:21] <joshua> lol
[02:21] <joshua> sweet
[02:21] <joshua> i got it
[02:21] <joshua> sweet jesus
[02:21] <joshua> its a miracle
[02:21] <coucho> lol
[02:21] <SonicChao> Ok mike
[02:21] <mikeb> how old are you joshua ?
[02:21] <harrisonk> mikeb,  my drives are all wrong and when I get to an "Open" dialog in the emulated program it locks up
[02:21] <djsroknrol> Anyone have any experience with Xchat?
[02:21] <joshua> im sorry
[02:21] <odin_> dang, am I not getting these ! commands right yet?
[02:21] <joshua> too old to be acting like that
[02:21] <SonicChao> I read most of the stuff on ubuntu website
[02:21] <gordonjcp> joshua: sorted?
[02:21] <amphi> coucho: I'm scratching my head - you could restart postfix with /etc/init.d/postfix restart while I do it ;)
[02:21] <coucho> amphi: k will do XD
[02:21] <SonicChao> I'll look it up on Wikipedia
[02:21] <SonicChao> Thank you people
[02:22] <coucho> amphi: hope you're finished scratching XD
[02:22] <mikeb> harrisonk, make sure all wine instances are closed
[02:22] <mikeb> harrisonk, then run winecfg ?
[02:22] <Stormx2> When i install php4 in ubuntu, where is the executable normally installed for interpretting PHP on the command line? "php" doesn't work
[02:22] <rob_p> coucho:  Looks like postfix is resolving just fine...  There is definitely a routing issue to hotmail's MX ip addresses.  Try sending mail to another domain and see if you get the same messages.
[02:23] <coucho> rob_p: tried to send to namit (namit@namit.org), same result
[02:23] <SonicChao> "Accessibility  ensuring the desktop can be used by everyone, regardless of technical skill or physical disability"
[02:24] <SonicChao> Ok, thats definetly a GUI
[02:24] <rob_p> coucho:  ah.. I see.  I missed that in the paste...
[02:24] <confused> i need a server address for LBreakout2
[02:24] <amphi> coucho: PM?
[02:24] <coucho> amphi: PM?
[02:24] <amphi> coucho: private message - you need to identify to services for that
[02:24] <michael__> Does anyone know how to fix tha fact that 'CPU: Hyper-Threading is disabled' (dmesg) I'm using version 2.6.12-10-686-smp and its enabled in bios??
[02:25] <coucho> amphi: what do you mean?
[02:25] <harrisonk> and now i cant kill this exe process
[02:25] <joshua> awsome
[02:25] <joshua> i finally updated it
[02:25] <mikeb> harrisonk, killall wine
[02:25] <coucho> amphi: i'm pretty daft, i need things explained to me several times
[02:25] <joshua> thanks guys u are all awsome
[02:25] <confused> i need a server address for LBreakout2
[02:25] <harrisonk> wine: no process killed
[02:25] <mikeb> killall wineerver
[02:26] <mikeb> killall wineserver  ***
[02:26] <michael__> killall wine-server
[02:26] <mikeb> thats the one
[02:26] <mikeb> haha
[02:26] <harrisonk> no proccess killed!
[02:26] <harrisonk> aaaargh
[02:26] <coucho> lol
[02:26] <mikeb> ps -e
[02:26] <amphi> coucho: heh - can you pastebin your /etc/postfix/main.cf ?
[02:26] <mikeb> killall wine*
[02:26] <confused> i need a server address for LBreakout2 because my father deleted it
[02:27] <michael__> ok do a ps -A and look at the processes find the one with wine in it and do a pkill -9 wine-server ( or however its spelt...
[02:27] <coucho> amphi: sure, wait a moment
[02:27] <confused> 1 go 2 come
[02:27] <odin_> confused:  just use the ubuntu archive
[02:28] <coucho> amphi: http://pastebin.com/729033
[02:28] <harrisonk> wine is dead
[02:28] <harrisonk> but the EXE is not
[02:29] <camilo> good night
[02:29] <michael__> ok harri do a ps -A look at the process number and then do a pkill -9 <process number>
[02:29] <harrisonk> ya i did
[02:30] <harrisonk> and it's being stubborn
[02:30] <camilo> someone knows about ubuntu in ppc ?
[02:31] <mdke> I'd like to make the statusbar of irssi bigger so that I can get two rows of channels listed in it. any ideas?
[02:31] <michael__> beats me then thats always worked for me... lol
[02:31] <harrisonk> yep
[02:31] <harrisonk> windows is taking over my ubuntu partition
[02:31] <coucho> lol
[02:31] <coucho> that's fucked
[02:32] <Alinux> mdke, ;) hello man.
[02:33] <mdke> Alinux: hello
[02:33] <harrisonk> i'd still like to know why my stupid winecfg fails to save any changes i make
[02:33] <Alinux> mdke, everything ok ?
[02:33] <mdke> Alinux: except for my question, yeah
[02:33] <coucho> amphi: getting something useful?
[02:33] <kkathman> where do I set the default application for wmv files?
[02:34] <Alinux> mdke, :/
[02:34] <amphi> coucho: looks ok
[02:34] <kkathman> Im trying to see a wmv and its bringing up totem
[02:34] <harrisonk> wheres the wine config file located?
[02:35] <mikeb> harrisonk, ~/.wine
[02:35] <mikeb> harrisonk, ~/.winecfg
[02:35] <mikeb> something like that
[02:36] <coucho> amphi: k so now what?
[02:36] <Breaks> hey all
[02:36] <confused> I guess i am using Debian
[02:36] <Breaks> just wondering if dapper has been released offically yet?
[02:36] <Breaks> and if not, when the launch date is?
[02:36] <mdke> first of june
[02:37] <Breaks> oh it is?
[02:37] <mdke> anyone on my irssi question?
[02:37] <mikeb> 2 weeks mate
[02:37] <Breaks> sweet
[02:37] <Breaks> looking forward to it :D
[02:37] <confused> which file was the server address in?
[02:37] <Breaks> is there going to be a 64bit version?
[02:37] <mdke> Breaks: yes
[02:37] <Madpilot> Breaks, there always is
[02:37] <Breaks> released on the same date?
[02:38] <mdke> Breaks: always available on 64bit
[02:38] <Madpilot> Breaks, yes, all out on June 1st
[02:38] <Breaks> the support for 64bit improved much?
[02:38] <amphi> coucho: see if you can 'telnet mail.namit.org 25' ok
[02:38] <Breaks> in the sense of drivers and what not
[02:39] <coucho> amphi: lol no route to host
[02:39] <rob_p> coucho:  Your router may be blocking outbound to port 25.  This *may* be a security feature of your router to slow/stop the spread of worms, etc.  Try disabling any firewalling or specifically open up outbound to por 25 in the router itself.
[02:39] <coucho> amphi: but it does convert it to the ip address
[02:40] <coucho> rob_p: i opened it already
[02:40] <confused> which file was the server address in?
[02:40] <confused> or folder
[02:41] <amphi> coucho: seems like a routing problem
[02:41] <mdke> coucho: i haven't followed your whole conversation, but if you are having trouble sending email from a home server, your isp might be blocking port 25 outgoing
[02:41] <coucho> rob_p: both tcp and udp
[02:41] <amphi> coucho: duh ;)
[02:41] <confused> for LBreakout
[02:41] <coucho> XD
[02:41] <mikeb> hehe
[02:41] <amphi> coucho: pastebin 'sudo route -n' perhaps
[02:41] <rob_p> coucho:  Well, no route to host means exactly that.  Check your settings again.  Also, maybe your ISP is filtering outgoing to dest port 25 in which case you'll just have to use their SMTP server.
[02:42] <confused> ?
[02:42] <rob_p> coucho:  To configure postfix to use your ISP's SMTP server as a relay host (smarthost), then modify your /etc/postfix/main.cf to include a line that says, "relayhost = ip.of.isp.smtp" and you should be set.  Most ISP's trust incoming SMTP connections from within their own networks by default.  You shouldn't have to provide any auth info.  The fact that you are local to them (same network) is auth enough for most ISPs.
[02:42] <coucho> rob_p: i tried that with sendmail
[02:42] <Dkt> I just downlaoded TagLib as Tar.Gz format in my Root-folder, how do I run it so i can use it?
[02:42] <coucho> rob_p: i'll try that
[02:43] <confused> would it be in the lib folder?
[02:43] <coucho> amphi: http://pastebin.com/729053
[02:43] <harrisonk> ok I kinda got wine half-working, for something that requires registry info is there anyw ay to mock install it so the required registry data is entered?
[02:43] <rob_p> coucho:  I have no experience with sendmail but either way, you ISP probably doesn't require credentials when you are connecting locally.  Give it a try and I think it'll work for you.
[02:44] <duneatreides> hello, where is the desktop background saved?
[02:44] <amphi> coucho: that's fine
[02:44] <mikeb> harrisonk, you need to fully install it
[02:45] <harrisonk> eurgh
[02:45] <aedwards323> about 1 out of every 3 times my computer turns off the monitor feed due to not being used I have to change gettys just to get it to come back up, any idea why this might be happening?
[02:45] <nathansnook> is there a way to speed up video play back from a DVD
[02:45] <wims> !ati
[02:45] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:45] <amphi> nathansnook: with mplayer you can specify -fps if that's what you mean
[02:45] <spanglesontoast> hey does anyone know much about compiling kernels?
[02:46] <confused> duneatredies: try systems>prefrences>remote desktop
[02:46] <amphi> spanglesontoast: better to just ask your question
[02:46] <confused> which file was the server address in?
[02:46] <confused> for LBreakout
[02:47] <duneatreides> i want to chage my desktop background, but I don't know where the default background is located
[02:47] <coucho> rob_p/amphi/mdke: i think mutt is trying to use sendmail iso postfox
[02:47] <coucho> *postfix
[02:47] <confused> duneatredies: try systems>prefrences>remote desktop<<< did u try?
[02:47] <spanglesontoast> well I'm compiled it
[02:47] <spanglesontoast> I'm just confused how to install it
[02:47] <spanglesontoast> should I enable the root account?
[02:47] <wims> !dualhead
[02:47] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, wims
[02:47] <amphi> coucho: mutt just throws mail at localhost:25 AFAIK
[02:47] <confused> !desktop
[02:47] <ubotu> confused: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:47] <amphi> coucho: and postfix is listening on 25, not sendmail
[02:48] <RandolphCarter> duneatreides: install the gnome-backgrounds package (oh, and baron harkonnen ate my children :()
[02:48] <Madpilot> spanglesontoast, sudo should do everything you need...
[02:48] <confused> ahh shuddap ubotu
[02:48] <confused> DUNE IS SO FUN
[02:48] <amphi> spanglesontoast: did you build it with make-kpkg ?
[02:48] <aedwards323> about 1 out of every 3 times my computer turns off the monitor feed due to not being used I have to change gettys just to get it to come back up, any idea why this might be happening?
[02:49] <coucho> VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:49] <coucho> omfg
[02:49] <amphi> aedwards323: you should be able to stop the monitor being powered down with xset
[02:49] <coucho> it fuckin works man
[02:49] <coucho> wtf
[02:49] <confused> where is the LBreakout2 Sever code located
[02:49] <spanglesontoast> I used make oldconfig
[02:49] <confused> server*
[02:49] <amphi> coucho: using the isp as a smarthost?
[02:49] <BigJibby> where is the netscape flsh plugin installed?
[02:49] <spanglesontoast> then I did a make
[02:49] <duneatreides> forgive me, I do appreciate the help, but all I want to know is where the default background is at, because I to replace it with another background
[02:49] <coucho> amphi: yeah
[02:49] <coucho> amphi: without any auth
[02:49] <amphi> spanglesontoast: install kernel-package and use make-kpkg to make a deb
[02:50] <RandolphCarter> duneatreides: ohh, just right click, select "Change Desktop Background" then click+drag your pictures into the window
[02:50] <spanglesontoast> no I'm asking about the one I downloaded off kernel.org
[02:50] <spanglesontoast> I know theres kernel sources with ubuntu
[02:50] <amphi> coucho: well, that would seem to be it - your isp blocking outbound port 25 traffic *sigh*
[02:50] <duneatreides> but where is the file stored?
[02:50] <confused> where is the LBreakout2 Server code located?
[02:50] <confused> what folder
[02:50] <coucho> amphi: yeah those fuckers
[02:50] <amphi> spanglesontoast: yes - build your kenel with kernel package, it'll make a deb of the kernel and modules you can install with dpkg
[02:51] <wims> if i can do fglrxinfo, does that mean that i have installed the ATI driver, even though my vendor string doesn't include ATI ?
[02:51] <dfgas> anyone get launchcast to work in nix?
[02:51] <RandolphCarter> duneatreides: /usr/share/backgrounds/
[02:51] <spanglesontoast> but I've already compiled it
[02:51] <spanglesontoast> I just want to install it
[02:51] <amphi> coucho: windows and spammers have fux0red things up badly :(
[02:51] <RandolphCarter> no wims, if your vendor string doesn't include ATI, it doesn't think you have an ATI :(
[02:51] <duneatreides> thank you RandolphCarter, I apollogize if I was a little snippy
[02:51] <coucho> amphi: yeah pretty much
[02:51] <confused> ugh
[02:51] <amphi> spanglesontoast: build it again, 'the debian way', it's worth it IMHO
[02:52] <wims> RandolphCarter, ok, thanks. I guess i have to look into it then
[02:52] <RandolphCarter> duneatreides: no problems, things are a bit tough in the empire since Muad'Dib left
[02:52] <confused> dude
[02:52] <coucho> amphi: as soon as games run smoothly on linux i'm never using windows again
[02:52] <confused> s
[02:52] <spanglesontoast> but I'm not wanting another debian system...
[02:52] <confused> where is the LBreakout2 Server code located?
[02:52] <Jowi> spanglesontoast: there is a wiki for kernel configuration/installation
[02:52] <Madpilot> confused, what is that? If nobody's answering, it's because nobody is sure what you're talkign about...
[02:52] <amphi> coucho: I use gmail's smtp server as I connect through different isps, and it saves having to mess with the relayhost
[02:52] <RandolphCarter> confused: not sure, but you do 'apt-get source lbreakout2' in a clean folder somewhere, maybe somewhere in that source tree
[02:52] <coucho> oh and when there are decent ati drivers XD
[02:53] <confused> var or usr?
[02:53] <confused> ah
[02:53] <coucho> amphi: yeah i can imagine
[02:53] <spanglesontoast> you got one hand jowi?
[02:53] <spanglesontoast> *handy
[02:53] <dfgas> anyone get launchcast to work in nix?yah whats up, i installed ut2004 and it laggy as all hell, my nvidia drivers load up right, any idea?
[02:53] <dfgas> oops
[02:53] <Jowi> spanglesontoast: absolutely -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[02:53] <dfgas> yah whats up, i installed ut2004 and it laggy as all hell, my nvidia drivers load up right, any idea?
[02:53] <amphi> coucho: my radeon is sufficiently trailing edge to be supported by xorg's driver ;)
[02:54] <Technel> Ok, here's the deal -- I had a master and a slave drive, but the slave really was supposed to be the master. This drive had Windows XP on it. I switched the jumper so the second drive was the Slave, and the first one was left to the default setting (it is a SATA drive). After I switched them, XP still booted up. So then I installed Ubuntu on the now Master alongside XP, but when I boot up it says "Error loading operating system" (I did
[02:54] <Technel> to install GRUB) I tried using the Windows recovery console and using "FIXMBR", it said it was successful, but I still can't boot. Do I have to reinstall XP and Ubuntu now?
[02:54] <coucho> amphi: yeah mine probably too, but not good enough to play games such as CS:Source 'n' stuff
[02:55] <spanglesontoast> ty but still I'm doing it from the ones by kernel.org
[02:55] <coucho> amphi: not that that particular game runs in linux...
[02:55] <amphi> coucho: I don't play games; the 3d accel support for my card is good enough for celestia and stellarium
[02:55] <coucho> amphi: yeah that stuff just doesn't cut it for me XD
[02:55] <amphi> spanglesontoast: I build kernel.org kernels with kernel-package
[02:56] <spanglesontoast> hmm
[02:57] <Dkt> What are tar.gz for?
[02:57] <Jowi> spanglesontoast: same thing. the make, make install, and make modules-install. then copy the bz image to boot and set it up
[02:58] <spanglesontoast> yea I got it
[02:58] <spanglesontoast> i looked at the by hand bit
[02:58] <Jowi> spanglesontoast: doesn't matter where you download the kernel from
[02:58] <amphi> spanglesontoast: not that I have for a while ;) manually, IIRC, you cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-$VERSION, make modules_install, run depmod -a, and manually add an entry in grub's menu.lsy
[02:58] <Flannel> Dkt: they're shrunk and packaged.  like .zip files.  (gz is for gzip, tar is a bunch of files made into one).
[02:58] <amphi> er, menu.lst
[02:59] <Flannel> Dkt: a tar.gz is litterally a tar file, which is then gzipped.
[02:59] <Dkt> Flannel, oh, I see. I just downloaded TagLib, and now I dont really know what to do with that package.
[02:59] <spanglesontoast> yea I got ya
[03:00] <amphi> spanglesontoast: kernel-package makes life a lot simpler
[03:00] <spanglesontoast> yea I know...
[03:00] <spanglesontoast> I just prefer doing it manually
[03:00] <spanglesontoast> this is an old release of ubuntu anyways
[03:00] <coucho> amphi/rob_p/mdke: thanks a lot for helping me out guys, i really appreciate it
[03:00] <amphi> spanglesontoast: why?? I held out against kernel-package for a while, which was foolish in retrospect IMHO
[03:01] <Flannel> Dkt: why not use the one in the repositories?
[03:01] <spanglesontoast> well it took 4 hours to compile amphi
[03:01] <amphi> coucho: it was rob_p, really - I've never used an isp yet that blocked outbound 25 traffic
[03:02] <amphi> coucho: luckily, gmail's smpt server is not on port 25, in case I do meet such a swine
[03:02] <Jowi> anyone using pwm?
[03:02] <amphi> spanglesontoast: heh, I can see why you're unwilling to do it again ;)
[03:02] <Dkt> Flannel, Repostitories? Sorry, im abit new with linux at all so.
[03:02] <coucho> amphi: yeah that's great, maybe i'll get a gmail account too
[03:02] <amphi> coucho: smtp
[03:03] <Flannel> Dkt: well, it'd be an ubuntu/debian thing, not a linux thing.  Most linuxes would hvae you download/install the tar.gz.
[03:03] <Flannel> !tell Dkt about repositories
[03:03] <spanglesontoast> yup amphi
[03:03] <spanglesontoast> I didn't mean to be an ass...
[03:03] <Flannel> oh, wait.  Dkt, sorry, it's in main.
[03:03] <coucho> amphi: btw, you've put in the most effort (no offense rob_p) to help me, so you get credit too XD
[03:03] <amphi> spanglesontoast: but kernel-package is the way of the future ;)
[03:03] <Flannel> Dkt: alright, so, forget the repository link thing ;)  What you'll need to do is (youre using ubuntu? or kubuntu? or what?)
[03:04] <Dkt> Flannel, Im using Ubuntu, breezy
[03:04] <spanglesontoast> oks
[03:04] <amphi> coucho: you using fetchmail to get mail?
[03:04] <Flannel> Dkt: sounds good.  Alright, so, Open up synaptic.  (Synaptic Package Manager) I.. dont remember where it is in the menus.  Should be under Administration, if I remember correctly.
[03:04] <coucho> amphi: not getting mail yet
[03:05] <Dkt> Flannel, Yes, im there now
[03:05] <Flannel> Dkt: alright, hit search, and search for "taglib"
[03:05] <Jowi> spanglesontoast: remove as many modules as you can and only compile in what you need. first time compile take awhile but next time you compile the same kernel it will only take a moment. more modules = longer compile and boot time
[03:05] <coucho> amphi: i mainly use my windows box, so just outlook XD
[03:05] <spanglesontoast> ok jovi
[03:06] <amphi> coucho: ah
[03:06] <Dkt> Flannel, looks like it dont find it.
[03:06] <Flannel> Dkt: Dkt hmm, try searching for just tag then.
[03:06] <amphi> coucho: why not fetchmail and putty and mutt? ;)
[03:06] <coucho> amphi: rofl
[03:07] <Dkt> Flannel, that worked, got some files beginning with tag here.
[03:07] <Jowi> spanglesontoast: i noticed one thing though about the mouse module. if you compile it in, it will not work. it must be a module. i think it is called psmouse but not 100% sure since I am not by that computer now.
[03:07] <amphi> coucho: windows probably makes a nice terminal, with putty ;)
[03:07] <coucho> amphi: whahahahahahahahahahahah
[03:07] <Flannel> Dkt: oh, sorry, it was libtag not taglib.
[03:07] <Flannel> Dkt: libtag1c2 looks like what you want.  But, I'm not really sure.
[03:07] <amphi> coucho: I use mutt here, it's very pleasant
[03:08] <coucho> amphi: that would be frikkin hilarious
[03:08] <wims> if i do sudo killall gdm, then do sudo gdm, will that restart my xserver so it uses my new settings ?
[03:08] <coucho> amphi: yeah i 'enjoyed' working with it
[03:08] <Dkt> Flannel, hmm, its green for me (Installed?) But I downloaded a "TagLib 1.4", that stood was recommended for amaroK they said.
[03:08] <spanglesontoast> ok jovi
[03:09] <coucho> amphi: i'll probably use it frequently from now on
[03:09] <Flannel> Dkt: if its green, it's already installed.
[03:09] <skon> Anyone know the point of random usernames on linux like games and mail ?
[03:09] <Dkt> Flannel, Thats cool, but I still cant play MP3 files at all =/
[03:09] <RandolphCarter> skon: they're for daemons (like windows services)
[03:10] <RandolphCarter> it probably wouldn't hurt to change the shell to /bin/false though
[03:10] <Flannel> Dkt: this is just a tagging program.  for mp3 playback....
[03:10] <Flannel> !tell Dkt about mp3
[03:10] <skon> RandolphCarter: I figured. Do they pose a security risk or can they be safely removed?
[03:10] <amphi> coucho: there's also pine if you find mutt somewhat austere
[03:10] <hyperstream> super user?
[03:10] <hyperstream> nvm
[03:10] <hyperstream> how can i roll back to the previous nvidia drivers? current is: NVIDIA 87.56 id like to use: NVidia 7676 ( is it at all possible to do this ? )
[03:10] <RandolphCarter> skon: probably best to keep 'em and set the shell to /bin/false instead of /bin/sh
[03:11] <coucho> amphi: maybe i'll try it, but thusfar i like it very much
[03:11] <RandolphCarter> so long as there's no entry in shadow for 'em people can't login remotely using them anyway
[03:11] <spanglesontoast> hmm it says remove initrd.img
[03:11] <skon> RandolphCarter: okay. what's the password to log into them though, if the shell is /bin/sh ? root?
[03:11] <coucho> (is that the correct usage of that word?)
[03:11] <spanglesontoast> but theres a initrd.img-2.6.10-5-686 still there
[03:11] <RandolphCarter> skon: mostly they can't be logged in to, root runs the process then they assume the identity user, daemon etc.
[03:12] <amphi> coucho: mutt is greatly superior IMHO - it has very nice integration with GPG, for one thing
[03:12] <coucho> amphi: english is not my native language, so excuse me if i fuck up some words
[03:12] <coucho> amphi: yeah still not getting the gpg thing
[03:12] <amphi> coucho: people will complain if you use such words ;)
[03:12] <Madpilot> coucho, for starters, you can stop swearing - thanks.
[03:12] <coucho> amphi: sry
[03:13] <skon> k thanks RandolphCarter
[03:13] <coucho> Madpilor: sry
[03:13] <Jowi> spanglesontoast: if the kernel package for 2.6.10-5-686 is still installed it will be re-generated automatically. when you install a new kernel the old ones will not be removed.
[03:13] <RandolphCarter> skon: np's
[03:13] <amphi> coucho: personally, I don't mind, but it is channel policy
[03:13] <coucho> amphi: yeah i understand
[03:13] <spanglesontoast> but should I remove initrd.img-2.6.10-5-686
[03:13] <confused> can someone spare some time
[03:13] <Jowi> spanglesontoast: it is recommended to keep at least one known good kernel. just-in-cast(tm)
[03:13] <Jowi> just-in-case even
[03:14] <spanglesontoast> is that the kernel though the .img ?
[03:14] <amphi> spanglesontoast: not if that's needed by that kernel
[03:14] <coucho> amphi: where i live it's completely normal to use such words, so it's kinda hard to stop using them
[03:14] <Jowi> spanglesontoast: the vmlinuz is the kernel
[03:14] <coucho> amphi: anyway, what's the deal with that gpg stuff?
[03:14] <amphi> coucho: yeah, I got kicked from here for using an unapproved word before
[03:15] <coucho> amphi: ouch
[03:15] <amphi> coucho: crypto and mail signing
[03:15] <spanglesontoast> oh
[03:15] <spanglesontoast> so I'll keep the img there then
[03:15] <amphi> coucho: there's always ##linux if you need to 'express yourself' ;)
[03:15] <spanglesontoast> just incase
[03:15] <Jowi> spanglesontoast: if you compile your own it is not always neccessary to have a initrd.img file for it. i'm no expert though.
[03:15] <coucho> amphi: yeah i knew that it has to do with that, but from the way people talk about it one can do a freaking lot of things with it
[03:16] <coucho> amphi: a thanks XD
[03:16] <amphi> spanglesontoast: if you're building your own kernel, there's no need for initrd - just make sure you have ide and / fs support built in to your kernel (not as modules)
[03:16] <dfgas> i installed ut2004 and it laggy as all hell, my nvidia drivers load up right, any idea?
[03:17] <Eleaf> how do I start a new x-server using gdm?
[03:17] <Jowi> dfgas: glxinfo | grep direct
[03:17] <Eleaf> like /etc/init.d/gdm start (but on :1) or something
[03:17] <spanglesontoast> yea but my main question was it says in the guide to: # rm -f /initrd.img                 (in case a stale symlink is lying around)
[03:17] <rpedro> hi, can anyone help me with compiz and an ati card?
[03:18] <coucho> Madpilot: are things like omfg allowed?
[03:18] <Madpilot> coucho, sure
[03:18] <dfgas> dfgas@p41400:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[03:18] <dfgas> direct rendering: Yes
[03:18] <dfgas> dfgas@p41400:~$
[03:18] <coucho> Madpilot: ah thanks
[03:18] <rpedro> Xgl seems to already be running according to ps, but I don't find the compiz key in gconf-editor to enable the plugins
[03:18] <Jowi> spanglesontoast: when you see that everything works and you have no need for the old kernel, you can remove the old kernel and its initrd file. but keep it for now
[03:18] <amphi> coucho: 'whiskey tango foxtrot?' is acceptable too, I believe ;)
[03:18] <dfgas> jowi: thats good right?
[03:19] <coucho> amphi: rofl k XD
[03:19] <Eleaf> I can't get gconf-editor to change the compiz settings
[03:19] <Jowi> spanglesontoast: you set up in grub if/if not you use it or not
[03:19] <Jowi> dfgas: yes :)
[03:19] <rpedro> Eleaf: me too :(
[03:19] <Eleaf> rpedro, what compiz command did you do?
[03:19] <spanglesontoast> ok
[03:19] <dfgas> jowi: any idea what its laggy?
[03:19] <Eleaf> I'm using the compiz cvs, so something weird is going on
[03:19] <dfgas> what=why
[03:20] <coucho> amphi: next time, can i ask you some things about vnc server?
[03:20] <Dkt> Flannel, I have done what it says on the page, but still doesnt work, maybie a reboot is needed?
[03:20] <Eleaf> rpedro, are you doing 'compiz --replace decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher'
[03:20] <amphi> coucho: I know nothing about it
[03:20] <rpedro> Eleaf: dunno, following this howto for ati : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253
[03:20] <Jowi> dfgas: nope, if direct rendering is enabled at least your drivers are set up with accellerated 3d. maybe the drivers are buggy or the game is. hard to say
[03:20] <coucho> amphi: k
[03:20] <coucho> amphi: well, thanks again, ttyl
[03:21] <Flannel> Dkt: nah, linux doesn't need reboots, except for kernel changes
[03:21] <Mosi> can anyone tell me if there's a special codec i need to install to play AVI files, and under whatname i can find it?
[03:21] <amphi> coucho: yw
[03:21] <coucho> g'night everybody
[03:21] <amphi> Mosi: avi is just a container, it depends what's in it
[03:21] <Dkt> Flannel, oh, the MP3s do work now, but not in amaroK =/
[03:22] <rpedro> Eleaf: just can't find the compiz key in gconf-editor to enable plugins, cause Xgl seems to be already running
[03:22] <Jowi> dfgas: you can check that you have "libgl1-mesa", "libgl1-mesa-dri" and "libglitz-glx1" installed though. but that's about how far my ideas are reaching
[03:22] <Flannel> Dkt: then it's an amarok problem or something.  I don't know what it might be.  You might have better luck in #kubuntu, as amaroK is KDE based
[03:23] <Dkt> Flannel, thanks, I will ask there.
[03:23] <amphi> Mosi: 'file foo.avi' should give some clue as to what it is
[03:23] <neosc> is there any CD writing utility for ubuntu?
[03:24] <Jowi> neosc: many
[03:24] <neosc> the best?
[03:24] <neosc> as in the most nero like
[03:24] <Jowi> neosc: depends on what you have in mind. I use graveman, other use k3b
[03:24] <NatvAmer> nero makes a linux version
[03:25] <amphi> Mosi: eg. "RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 672 x 368, 25.00 fps, video: XviD, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)"
[03:25] <dfgas> how do i disable stuff on startup and what do i need/want to disable on startup that i don't need
[03:25] <myk> does anyone have some decently easy instructions to installing the java client for firefox? i've tried 4 times now and nothing works...
[03:25] <spanglesontoast> darn
[03:25] <spanglesontoast> it didn't work
[03:25] <amphi> heh
[03:25] <spanglesontoast> it wanted a initrd
[03:26] <NatvAmer> myk use automatix
[03:26] <rpedro> can someone tell me how to add a key for compiz to configure it to load the plugins for Xgl?
[03:26] <myk> NatvAmer, what and where is automatix?
[03:26] <Jowi> spanglesontoast: nah, remove the initrd reference from the grub menu
[03:26] <Flannel> rpedro: Youre using dapper?
[03:26] <amphi> spanglesontoast: you didn't turn off initrd support in the kernel config
[03:26] <rpedro> Flannel: yes
[03:26] <Flannel> myk, NatvAmer DONT use autoamtix.
[03:26] <NatvAmer> i got it from the forums
[03:26] <neosc> also, is there anyway i can have ubuntu not synchronise its clock to ntp.ubuntu.org?? and bypass the hotplug subsystem thing during startup.. the thing takes a long time to work.. and hangs up the pc half the time
[03:26] <Flannel> rpedro: #ubuntu+1 for support.
[03:26] <Flannel> !automatix
[03:26] <spanglesontoast> no it moaned there wasn't one there
[03:26] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[03:26] <rpedro> Flannel: ok
[03:27] <Flannel> myk: use easyubuntu.
[03:27] <amphi> spanglesontoast: 'expect to throw one away' ;)
[03:27] <NatvAmer> there is a new version of automatix
[03:27] <NatvAmer> version 6
[03:27] <NatvAmer> i used it in dapper no prob
[03:27] <NatvAmer> i used the older version on breazy too
[03:28] <thoreauputic> NatvAmer: I wouldn't use it on principle, even if it didn't suck
[03:28] <spanglesontoast> wtf
[03:28] <spanglesontoast> the vmlinuz
[03:28] <Flannel> NatvAmer: you got lucky.  Lots of people DO have problems.  it's not a fun script.
[03:28] <hyperstream> how can i roll back to the previous nvidia drivers? current is: NVIDIA 87.56 id like to use: NVidia 7676 ( is it at all possible to do this ? )
[03:28] <thoreauputic> NatvAmer: after seeing some ofthe writer's posts..
[03:28] <spanglesontoast> for the new kernel is missing from the boot
[03:28] <protocol1> easyubuntu works nice
[03:28] <neosc> is there anyway to bypass the ntp.ubuntu.org sync?? during startup
[03:28] <myk> Flannel, thanks. where were you before i had a headache?
[03:29] <spanglesontoast> why did it clean it ?
[03:29] <thoreauputic> neosc:  sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[03:29] <amphi> hey, thoreauputic
[03:29] <Jowi> spanglesontoast: copy the vmlinuz-myversion to /boot and set up grub with a new entry to point to it without initrd.
[03:29] <thoreauputic> amphi: hi there :)
[03:30] <thoreauputic> amphi: I'm now on DSL! ( ADSL2+ actually)
[03:30] <spanglesontoast> ah
[03:30] <Jowi> spanglesontoast: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-myversion root=/dev/hda5 ro quiet (and remove that initrd line)
[03:30] <amphi> thoreauputic: w00t
[03:31] <spanglesontoast> wtf
[03:31] <spanglesontoast> my name isn't in the sudo
[03:31] <spanglesontoast> yes amphi
[03:31] <spanglesontoast> I know...
[03:31] <thoreauputic> amphi: now if only the ISP would give me the full deal (currently they haven't set their dslam for full bandwidth)
[03:31] <amphi> thoreauputic: how much are you meant to get?
[03:32] <thoreauputic> amphi: I was on dialup before last week
[03:32] <thoreauputic> amphi: 24 Mbits theoretical max
[03:32] <amphi> thoreauputic: nice
[03:32] <myk> is there such a thing as "getmystupidlexmarkprintertoworkubuntu"?
[03:32] <spanglesontoast> oh
[03:32] <spanglesontoast> damn
[03:32] <spanglesontoast> lol
[03:32] <spanglesontoast> wrong terminal
[03:33] <Jowi> thoreauputic: at my account on my isp homepage it not set to full speed either since it would cause some packet-loss for the TV and stuff, but i can select it from a list there anyway. not possible for you?
[03:33] <thoreauputic> amphi: currently though it is on about a tenth of that :(
[03:33] <amphi> myk: perhaps - linuxprinting.org might have info
[03:33] <LinuxJones> thoreauputic, how much is that /month ?
[03:33] <myk> amphi, thx
[03:33] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: limits or cost?
[03:33] <LinuxJones> thoreauputic, bling
[03:33] <amphi> thoreauputic: still, not to shabby after POTS
[03:33] <lufis> Hi, how can I enable traffic on a port in Firestarter?
[03:33] <amphi> s/to/too
[03:34] <ztripez> i'm currently using ubuntu in "recover" mode and using the textbase irc client... i cant start X..
[03:34] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: 21 Gig/month @ $49 au
[03:34] <LinuxJones> thoreauputic, 21 gig transfer / month ?
[03:34] <ztripez> is there anyhow i can download the nvidias drivers from the shell?
[03:34] <thoreauputic> amphi: well, even 250 Kb/sec is mind blowing, yeah :)
[03:34] <lufis> Is there any way I can allow traffic on a specific port like 2234 for filesharing?
[03:34] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: yes
[03:35] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: downstream
[03:35] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: up is free
[03:35] <Jowi> where are you located thoreauputic ? never heard of a download limit before...
[03:35] <thoreauputic> Jowi: in Australia
[03:36] <Jowi> ah
[03:36] <amphi> Jowi: many isps have caps
[03:36] <goose> does anyone use gnome-xchat ?
[03:36] <thoreauputic> Jowi: we still have some silly restrictions, but things are improving
[03:36] <amphi> thoreauputic: testra?
[03:36] <ztripez> anyone? got any ideas?
[03:36] <amphi> er, telstra
[03:36] <thoreauputic> amphi: no, Optus
[03:36] <mikeb> telstra = hellstra
[03:36] <LinuxJones> thoreauputic,  I am in awe of that speed :)
[03:36] <thoreauputic> amphi: the lesser of two evils ;)
[03:37] <mikeb> i have trouble getting 150kb/s
[03:37] <amphi> thoreauputic: never 'eard of it, but I've read of telstra's enormities in the past ;)
[03:37] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: until they throttled it, I was gwtting up to 1.4 Mb/sec
[03:37] <Jowi> thoreauputic: hopefully the free market will kick in for you. i'm using free.fr (french isp), no limits, dslam2, no ports blocked, full linux support etc for 29/month. i'm happy
[03:37] <mikeb> i wish telstra uncapped the phone lines here :'-(
[03:37] <spanglesontoast> yay kernel panic
[03:37] <thoreauputic> Jowi: cool :)
[03:37] <amphi> Jowi: nice
[03:38] <MikeStyle> wigga wigga wigga woooooooo
[03:38] <LinuxJones> thoreauputic, they are throttling you, what you mean like voip ?
[03:38] <Mosi> amphi: sorry, i got pulled afk. "file -i foo.avi" reports foo.avi: application/octet stream
[03:38] <thoreauputic> Jowi: I think the fact that we have to use trans PAcific fibre etc puts the prices up a bit
[03:38] <amphi> Mosi: how informative ;)
[03:39] <amphi> Mosi: try without -i
[03:39] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: I think they are still debugging adsl2+ - it was put in here a few weeks back
[03:39] <Jowi> thoreauputic: might be that. only negative thing about being here is that they still haven't changed the timezone. so i'm forced to go to bed now :(
[03:39] <Mosi> amphi: no better. foo.avi: data
[03:39] <thoreauputic> Jowi: heh
[03:39] <amphi> Mosi: heheh
[03:39] <Jowi> c u guts.
[03:39] <Jowi> s/guts/guys
[03:39] <Stormx2> Writing a little script... i need to make a simple get request to a url with a query string. wget isn't up to the job as it thinks the query string is all part of the filename. Suggestions?
[03:40] <Stormx2> sorry its in bash.
[03:40] <Mosi> amphi: the problem could just be that it's an incomplete file ^_^
[03:40] <Mosi> ijust thought i'd ask
[03:40] <LinuxJones> thoreauputic, ahh growing pains :)
[03:40] <JRlinux> Stormx2, you might try #bash
[03:40] <Stormx2> JRlinux: I did >.<
[03:40] <JRlinux> ok
[03:40] <Stormx2> No one seems to know
[03:41] <amphi> Mosi: dunno - it should say more than that, I'd have thought, even if file didn't recognise the codecs; perhaps it's corrupt; what does mplayer say about it?
[03:41] <daxxar> Stormx2, uhm? I'm not sure I understand what the problem is.
[03:41] <Flannel> Stormx2: you can also ask in -offtopic, someone in there will know.
[03:41] <daxxar> Stormx2, is it that it saves it with the complete query-string as filename?
[03:41] <nico_> hola
[03:41] <nico_> como andan?
[03:41] <Stormx2> daxxar: Yes. Exactly that.
[03:41] <spanglesontoast> what does vfs cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block(0.0)
[03:41] <spanglesontoast> mean?
[03:41] <mikeb> daxxar, he wants to send some data to the server, not download a file
[03:42] <nico_> alguien habla espaol?
[03:42] <Stormx2> Well yeah
[03:42] <Stormx2> Basicly just make a request
[03:42] <Mosi> amphi: it pops up a bank error window and freezes ^+^
[03:42] <Flannel> !es
[03:42] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:42] <Stormx2> But it doesn't work in wget
[03:42] <daxxar> Stormx2, try using -O? :)
[03:42] <Mosi> *blank
[03:42] <Stormx2> it works in firefox
[03:42] <Stormx2> Yeah
[03:42] <Stormx2> Still doesn't work
[03:42] <amphi> Mosi: running it from a term?
[03:42] <daxxar> Stormx2, "doesn't work"? A GETs requeststring *is* a part of the "filename", as you call it, as far as the server knows.
[03:42] <Stormx2> I don't know...
[03:42] <LinuxJones> spanglesontoast, you compile your own kernel ?
[03:42] <Stormx2> Well yeah
[03:42] <Stormx2> thats what I though
[03:42] <Stormx2> t
[03:42] <Stormx2> :
[03:42] <spanglesontoast> yes linuxjones
[03:42] <Mosi> amphi: how do you run mplayer from terminal? just mplayer <file> ?
[03:42] <daxxar> ;
[03:42] <orn> I was wondering what is needed to do to enable the playing of non-free codecs? Wasn't there some easy way to incorporate those into ubuntu?
[03:43] <daxxar> Stormx2, so what's the problem?
[03:43] <amphi> Mosi: yes
[03:43] <eugman> Hey, Is there a way to make it so if I go to a psecific site and it doesn't respond that I'll be redirected to a different site?
[03:43] <amphi> !w3codecs
[03:43] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, amphi
[03:43] <amphi> !w32codecs
[03:43] <daxxar> ("doesn't work" isn't a problem; it's an effect that a problem causes)
[03:43] <Stormx2> daxxar: The page just doesn't receive the get data
[03:43] <Stormx2> daxxar: As far as I can tell
[03:43] <LinuxJones> spanglesontoast, you don't have all of the proper stuff built into the kernel like filesystem and ide device support..etc
[03:43] <mikomiko> What Linux software can open WAV file
[03:43] <daxxar> Stormx2, does wget show any errors? Do you have an example?
[03:43] <blank_> anyone, don't you guys think that NO SPEAKE ENGLISH is a bit too rude for ubotu to say that?
[03:43] <Stormx2> daxxar: Its a shoutcast server, let me hack up a lil php page to see what does get sent
[03:43] <amphi> !tell orn about w32codecs
[03:44] <mikeb> mikomiko, everything lol.
[03:44] <spanglesontoast> it says about grub not configured on google linuxjones
[03:44] <daxxar> Stormx2, can you paste the wget-command you run?
[03:44] <mikomiko> it is not playing on my Totem
[03:44] <MorbidHunger> how do i install rpms from the commandline?
[03:44] <w^x> love dapper!
[03:44] <mikomiko> it is actually, but no sound
[03:44] <daxxar> (exactly as you run it, perhaps with a hostname censored if it's too intimate for you)
[03:44] <Mosi> amphi: "missing video stream?!"
[03:44] <LinuxJones> spanglesontoast, did you create an initrd ?
[03:44] <mikeb> MorbidHunger, alien <package>
[03:44] <RomanK> Hi all!
[03:44] <amphi> mikomiko: mplayer, for one
[03:44] <Stormx2> daxxar: Well I can tell that it hasn't worked. The idea of it is to update the currently playing song. If I copy over the url wget sends to firefox, it works then. In wget it doesn't.
[03:44] <mikeb> MorbidHunger, apt-get install <new created package>
[03:44] <MorbidHunger> thanx
[03:44] <spanglesontoast> nope linuxjones
[03:44] <orn> thanks amphi
[03:44] <Stormx2> daxxar: It has a pass in it but i'll blank it out
[03:45] <amphi> Mosi: the file is corrupt, looks like
[03:45] <LinuxJones> spanglesontoast, there you go :)
[03:45] <Stormx2> http://razbroond.no-ip.info:8000/admin.cgi?pass=************&mode=updinfo&song=Rage%20Against%20the%20Machine%20-%20Microphone%20Fiend
[03:45] <Mosi> amphi: bummer, thanks
[03:45] <spanglesontoast> I was told to remove the line for that in grub
[03:45] <RomanK> I just upgraded my breezy to dapper, but now the network-manager (neither nm-applet nor knetworkmanager) does work. i used an backport of nm-applet before (with breezy) which worked fine
[03:45] <daxxar> Stormx2, the whole command. *exactly* as you type it.
[03:45] <spanglesontoast> erm how do I make one?
[03:45] <Stormx2> daxxar: With a wget at the start
[03:45] <RomanK> does anyone have any idea, why it doesn't work now?
[03:45] <Stormx2> daxxar: The script adds the section after &song= because its a variable
[03:45] <daxxar> Stormx2, add single quotes around it ('')
[03:45] <Flannel> RomanK: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[03:45] <amphi> Mosi: it would detect a video stream even if it didn't have the codec to play it, AFAIK
[03:45] <w^x> so i have a nvidia 420go on my laptop, is this card functional, because in 5.10 it would not let me do resolution higher than 800x600?
[03:45] <LinuxJones> spanglesontoast, make sure your filesystems are built in as well as ide support (if that's what your hard drive uses)
[03:45] <daxxar> Stormx2: or double quotes ("")
[03:45] <RomanK> Flannel: thx
[03:45] <harrisonk> someone go to www.puzzlepirates.com and see if they can get it to run
[03:46] <Stormx2> daxxar: Its got double quotes at the mo
[03:46] <Stormx2> daxxar: I'll try single
[03:46] <Mosi> amphi: thanks
[03:46] <daxxar> Stormx2, which is why I said: "Stormx2, the whole command. *exactly* as you type it.". ;-)
[03:46] <Stormx2> I'm sorry :(
[03:46] <Stormx2> Full command is wget "http://razbroond.no-ip.info:8000/admin.cgi?pass=****&mode=updinfo&song=$queue"
[03:46] <mikomiko> hello, someone pls help me, dont know which software can make my wav file play
[03:46] <confused> can someone spare me some time?
[03:46] <joedj> i just installed ubuntu on a friend's laptop and it didn't pick up his windows /dev/hda5 partition for the GRUB menu. how do i rectify this...i only know lilo :/
[03:46] <spanglesontoast> yea I believe I compiled it with ide support
[03:47] <mikeb> mikomiko, please search google for simple questions
[03:47] <scottt106> can somebody help me configuring a network card?
[03:47] <eugman> mikomiko, What happens if you double click the wav file?
[03:47] <mikeb> mikomiko, apt-get install xmms
[03:47] <daxxar> Stormx2, single quotes wont work there (doesn't interpolate $queue). Seems to give a 404 for wget.
[03:48] <amphi> joedj: the info pages for grub have examples you can use
[03:48] <daxxar> Stormx2, try using HEAD instead of wget. (HEAD is from lwp-request)
[03:48] <LinuxJones> spanglesontoast, it's been abotu 4 years since I compiled a kernel but afaik ide support is not compiled into the kernel proper you have to specifically enable it if your not using an initrd.
[03:48] <mikomiko> i have xmms
[03:48] <mikomiko> but it is not playing it
[03:48] <daxxar> Stormx2, provided by the package libwww-perl, I guess.
[03:48] <amphi> mikomiko: mplayer will play it
[03:48] <spanglesontoast> erm
[03:48] <mikeb> mikomiko, are your speakers plugged in and turned on?
[03:48] <mikomiko> yes
[03:48] <daxxar> Stormx2, when you paste that exact same URL in Firefox, does it ask you for ap assword?
[03:48] <mikomiko> i am listening to other music
[03:49] <Stormx2> daxxar: Sure OK
[03:49] <eugman> mikomiko, what error do you get or does it just pretend to play the file.
[03:49] <Stormx2> daxxar: No. Remember that I blanked out the pass in what I sent to you.
[03:49] <mikomiko> xmms seems not to be replying
[03:49] <joedj> amphi: any idea why it didn't pick it up in the first place...maybe i need to set the partition as bootable?
[03:49] <Stormx2> daxxar: I just noticed the output from wget
[03:49] <daxxar> Stormx2, yeah, I know. I'm just curious. ;-)
[03:49] <harrisonk> when i try to run a java app i get a TON of libgcj errors
[03:49] <Stormx2> daxxar: Well, the contents of the file it pasted
[03:49] <Stormx2> daxxar: s/pasted/saves
[03:49] <daxxar> Yep
[03:49] <Stormx2> Ah I'm tired, can you tell? :
[03:49] <eugman> Well normally to get xmms to work I have to do a killall esd but that's because of an I/O error I get.
[03:50] <daxxar> Stormx2, hehe. So am I. think I'll hit the sack shortly.
[03:50] <Stormx2> daxxar: http://pastebin.ca/57423
[03:50] <amphi> joedj: windows likes the bootable flag AFAIK, it certainly used to; dunno if the setup uses it
[03:50] <mikeb> mikomiko, your soundcard is already in use?
[03:50] <daxxar> Stormx2, try running the exact same with 'HEAD' instead of 'wget'. (You need libwww-perl, I guess)
[03:50] <mikomiko> totem on the other hand will show the graphics thinggy but no sounds
[03:50] <Stormx2> OK
[03:50] <Stormx2> 
[03:50] <mikomiko> I am listening to toher music, so i know that my speaker is on
[03:51] <MorbidHunger> ubuntu is pretty cool
[03:51] <mikomiko> i stopped and tried playing this new wav file, but can not
[03:51] <dudanogueira> hello all, how to change the ubuntu icon at the applications menu?
[03:51] <amphi> joedj: rootnoverify (hd0,4) [enter]  chainloader +1 [enter]  boot [enter]  should do it in the grub shell, to test
[03:51] <amphi> joedj: you did say hda5 ?
[03:51] <joedj> amphi: yes
[03:52] <amphi> joedj: I'd test in the grub shell, and when you have it working, add an entry to menu.lst
[03:52] <joedj> amphi: so for real real, i edit menu.lst then grub-install ?
[03:52] <amphi> joedj: does windows think it's on c: ?
[03:52] <Stormx2> Maybe
[03:53] <Stormx2> Just maybe
[03:53] <Stormx2> it needs a user-agent
[03:53] <amphi> joedj: no need to run grub-install after editing menu.lst - this is not lilo ;)
[03:53] <joedj> amphi: ;-)
[03:53] <eugman> MoribHunger, I believe the cliche "preaching to the choir" applies here.
[03:53] <daxxar> Stormx2, wget sends one. ;-P
[03:53] <Stormx2> Oh
[03:53] <Stormx2> lol
[03:53] <Stormx2> :
[03:53] <daxxar> Stormx2, User-Agent: Wget/1.10.2
[03:53] <Stormx2> Maybe it needs a different one
[03:53] <daxxar> wget -vd (url)
[03:53] <daxxar> That could be. Sounds like retarded programming if so. :p
[03:53] <amphi> joedj: if windows thinks it's on c: you may need to mess with grub's map option
[03:54] <joedj> amphi: as far as windows was concerned before i installed ubuntu, there was a C: (old, unused windows), E: (active windows), F: and G:, all NTFS
[03:54] <daxxar> Stormx2 use -U to set it. (wget -U 'Some User Agent' ...)
[03:54] <daxxar> Stormx2, oh well. Good luck, and good night. :)
[03:54] <joedj> amphi: i deleted what was C: for ubuntu
[03:54] <amphi> joedj: ok, no need for map then by the sound of it
[03:55] <Stormx2> daxxar: Night!
[03:55] <Stormx2> daxxar: Thanks for all the help!
[03:55] <leojstewart> Does anyone know how to edit the names of Menu Items?
[03:55] <daxxar> No problem, sorry I couldn't get it working. ;-)
[03:55] <daxxar> *gone*
[03:55] <leojstewart> I tried through the Menu editor and it didn't seem to work...?
[03:56] <joedj> amphi: i see in menu.lst there is a windows example with a 'makeactive' stanza..?
[03:57] <amphi> joedj: adapt that, I guess - all you should need to change is the (hdX,Y) to (hd0,4)
[03:57] <thoreauputic> leojstewart: right click, properties
[03:58] <thoreauputic> leojstewart: in the manu editor
[03:58] <thoreauputic> *menu
[03:58] <amphi> joedj: I'm not sure what makeactive does - perhaps it turns on the 'bootable' flag
[03:58] <joedj> amphi: nod. i'm not sure whether the active and bootable flags are the same thing or not, damn partitions...
[03:59] <joedj> amphi: do i want the "boot" stanza in menu.lst? not sure what that's doing, a few of my linux kernels have it but the windows example doesn't
[03:59] <amphi> joedj: no
[04:00] <Creteil> hi all
[04:00] <joedj> amphi: neat. looks as if it might just work :) thanks for the help, again
[04:00] <amphi> joedj: just root (or rootnoverify) (hd0,4), makeactive, chainloader +1
[04:00] <amphi> joedj: makeactive seems recommended by the grub docs for legacy OSes
[04:01] <wims> !ftp
[04:01] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[04:01] <Creteil> just finished installing ubuntu dapper, after this upgraded with all available updates, but now the start of X session take minutes to start after i have enterd my l/p ... any idea ?
[04:02] <mikeb> i love konqueror... i wish gnome had something like it
[04:02] <amphi> mikeb: is nautilus something similar? I don't use either
[04:02] <eugman> Hey, I was thinking of starting a thread to make a comprehensive list of useful console apps like irssi,lynx,wget and such for people like me who are new to linux but are interested in what can be done with just the terminal. Anyone think it might be a good idea?
[04:02] <Flannel> eugman: definately.
[04:02] <amphi> eugman: sure
[04:02] <B_166-ER-X> whats the command to know the list of Usb port in use ?
[04:03] <eugman> Are the forums still down?
[04:03] <lufis> Is there any way I can disable hardware in ubuntu?
[04:03] <amphi> eugman: and gnu screen of course
[04:03] <mikeb> amphi, nah, konqueror has many more local features (for example click --> audio cd --> choose codec and BAM! all the files are listed in the selected codec and you just copy them)
[04:03] <mikeb> i love that idea
[04:03] <eugman> I know genrally of the first two. What's this gnu screen you speak of?
[04:03] <mikeb> !screen
[04:03] <ubotu> well, screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[04:04] <spanglesontoast> hmm
[04:04] <mikeb> <3 screen... my favourite program
[04:04] <amphi> eugman: iptraf is a nice network monitor
[04:04] <spanglesontoast> this version of ubuntu uses mkinitrd
[04:04] <MorbidHunger> mmmmmmmmmmmm vlc
[04:04] <eugman> Oh So that's what one uses to have multiple screens.
[04:05] <eugman> besides using more than one of the 6 ttys
[04:05] <lufis> How can I disable hardware in ubuntu?
[04:05] <spanglesontoast> yay
[04:05] <spanglesontoast> the kernel worked !
[04:05] <joedj> eugman: you can increase the number of ttys in /etc/inittab, too. i have 11
[04:05] <spanglesontoast> :)
[04:05] <amphi> eugman: handy when you're ssh'd in somewhere, for a start; I also use it for moving progs between console and X
[04:05] <eugman> Joedj, Well how would I acess them? I have only some many function keys.
[04:06] <mikeb> i love it when you have 20 consoles
[04:06] <mikeb> open
[04:06] <joedj> eugman: you don't have 12 function keys? :)
[04:06] <amphi> spanglesontoast: o frabjous day! ;)
[04:06] <spanglesontoast> yea
[04:06] <spanglesontoast> ace
[04:06] <spanglesontoast> I'm sure it's slower
[04:06] <joedj> eugman: you can actually allocate more ttys than you have function keys, and use Alt+Left and Alt+Right to get access to them
[04:06] <amphi> eugman: right-alt-fn for the second dozen ;)
[04:06] <theverant> how do I change access right to a scanner? I can detect it if I sudo but not as regular user
[04:06] <spanglesontoast> there was a ton of errors
[04:06] <eugman> Joedj At least one has to be for graphical. Dont the upper ones have any important uses?
[04:07] <eugman> nvm
[04:07] <amphi> eugman: I have 22, with X on tty23 and syslog dumped on tty24
[04:07] <Flannel> amphi: sounds like you could use screen.
[04:07] <eugman> Well it don't matter anyways. I generally don't use more  that what I have for the time being.
[04:07] <luke> is there any way i can quit XGL/GNOME/COMPIZ/XSERVER/GDM and just go into console?
[04:08] <spanglesontoast> hmm maybe I should compile 2.4 kernel for fun
[04:08] <amphi> Flannel: I do, as well - 22 VTs is overkill, but I'm used to it now
[04:08] <nickrud> amphi, old lessons work :)
[04:09] <thoreauputic> for those who haven't seen it: http://www.polycrystal.org/lego/movies/A_New_Computer--small.ogg  << fun lego animation in ogg-theora
[04:10] <MorbidHunger> hey how do i get ubuntu to detect my onbored audio?
[04:12] <rab> !dapper
[04:12] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June when it is released :-) BUT not until then
[04:12] <spanglesontoast> erm where can I find the error log for the kernel
[04:12] <Mixx> MorbidHunger - make it more exciting
[04:12] <nickrud> thoreauputic, I'm only getting sound in mplayer plugin is there more?
[04:13] <MorbidHunger> ???
[04:13] <ispiked> is dapper shipping with mono stuff by default?
[04:14] <thoreauputic> nickrud: ? more what ?
[04:14] <dfgas> how would i load another X just plain X with a program in it?
[04:14] <thoreauputic> nickrud: you mean no video ?
[04:14] <nickrud> thoreauputic, nm, it's in a movie dir. I guess I'll spend a few minutes seeing if I can trak it down
[04:14] <nickrud> thoreauputic, yes
[04:14] <thoreauputic> ah
[04:15] <Tonren> Hey guys, is there a general chat on Freenode for KDE stuff?
[04:15] <Madpilot> Tonren, there's #kubuntu - not sure if there's a KDE channel, actually
[04:15] <dfgas> prolly #kde
[04:16] <Madpilot> yeah, there is a #kde
[04:16] <Tonren> good call, dfgas
[04:17] <dfgas> lol
[04:17] <Arrick> whaddup evrbdy
[04:19] <s|k> heh
[04:19] <s|k> wow
[04:19] <s|k> this channel isn't usually so quiet
[04:19] <nickrud> Arrick, naught
[04:19] <nickrud> waiting for dapper, I guess
[04:19] <Tonren> I'm a little flabberghasted that there are seven hundred people in here.
[04:19] <Arrick> hey nickrud hows it hanging
[04:19] <amphi> thoreauputic: for great stability? ;)
[04:19] <Arrick> nickrud, soundray helped me figure out that computer problem this morning
[04:20] <thoreauputic> s|k: 700 lurkers ;)
[04:20] <nickrud> Arrick, you have many :)
[04:20] <Tonren> isn't it ghastly
[04:20] <amphi> Tonren: it is indeed ;)
[04:20] <Arrick> the primary IDE on the board was bad, and it wasnt really saving what the thing thought nickrud
[04:20] <thoreauputic> amphi: well, the flux latest are usually pretty reliable ;)
[04:20] <nickrud> it's up from 500 a year ago, it's an improvement
[04:20] <nickrud> maybe
[04:20] <amphi> thoreauputic: it was quite buggy and unstable when last I used it; I use openbox these days
[04:21] <thoreauputic> nickrud: numbers up, mean IQ down ;P
[04:21] <Arrick> thoreauputic, you thinks so?
[04:21] <SlayPain> Hi
[04:21] <nickrud> Arrick, then more power to soundray, testing a hardware problem remotely
[04:21] <nickrud> rflol
[04:21] <Arrick> nickrud, he walked me through testing it
[04:21] <SlayPain> i have some problems to install MaxDB
[04:21] <thoreauputic> amphi: I haven't had any issues with it since the xmb bug with hoary
[04:22] <Arrick> it works like a charm on IDE 2, and a pci to ide adapter, so Im guessing he is right on this one nickrud
[04:22] <thoreauputic> amphi: but I now compile it for geek points ;)
[04:22] <MorbidHunger> hey guys when i installed a couple hours ago it never asked me to put in a root password and now its asking me for one
[04:22] <SlayPain> perl compilation error (loading SAPDB::Install::App::StartSetup):
[04:22] <SlayPain> cannot load wxWidgets properly: Can't load '/home/alfonso/MaxDB/maxdb-all-linux-32bit-i386-7_6_00_27/./Wx.so' for module Wx: libpng.so.3: no se puede abrir el fichero del objeto compartido: No existe el fichero o el directorio at DynaLoader.pm line 230.
[04:22] <amphi> thoreauputic: the only advantage of fb seems tabbed windows, and I only tab xterms, so mrxvt does for me
[04:22] <Arrick> MorbidHunger, it would be your user password
[04:22] <thoreauputic> !tell MorbidHunger about root
[04:22] <nickrud> thoreauputic, does that mean you've moved to a natural tie, rather than a clipon ;)
[04:23] <thoreauputic> amphi: yes - I love tabbed wiondows - I tab everything :)
[04:23] <amphi> thoreauputic: you might like wmii - wmii.de
[04:23] <thoreauputic> nickrud: what are ties? ;-P
[04:23] <Arrick> neck ties thoreauputic
[04:23] <thoreauputic> amphi: I've played with it - but so far flux is my fave
[04:24] <thoreauputic> Arrick: your irony filter needs adjustment ;)
[04:24] <Arrick> nickrud, if you woulda said bowtie you might have gotten more attention on that one
[04:24] <amphi> thoreauputic: I haven't messed with it for a while, I had a tantrum when they removed focus-follows-mouse ;)
[04:24] <SlayPain> any idea?
[04:25] <thoreauputic> amphi: huh? I use focus follows mouse all the time
[04:25] <amphi> thoreauputic: in wmii
[04:25] <thoreauputic> amphi: it's there
[04:25] <thoreauputic> ah
[04:25] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:25] <blank_> guys, what terminal command can I use to lower the volume
[04:26] <ispiked> blank_: you can use alsaconfig.
[04:26] <thoreauputic> blank_: alsamixer
[04:26] <blank_> thoreauputic, no I just need a single command
[04:26] <ispiked> yeah, alsamixer is what I meant.
[04:26] <blank_> no guys, thanks but no, not that. I need something that lowers the volume in one single command
[04:27] <Arrick> blank_, you mean like a mute button/
[04:27] <Arrick> ?
[04:27] <amphi> blank_: amixer
[04:27] <thoreauputic> blank_: for a script?
[04:27] <blank_> Arrick, yes, I'm trying to xmodmap a key to lower the volume, in Xfree86 it was X86AudioMute
[04:27] <nickrud> blank_, amixer. man amixer, it's not obvious to the casual user.
[04:27] <blank_> thoreauputic, yes
[04:27] <blank_> nickrud, thanks
[04:27] <ispiked> yeah, I think amixer can do it.
[04:28] <nickrud> heh, I was third, but best :)
[04:28] <thoreauputic> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa stop ( joking)
[04:28] <blank_> lol
[04:28] <zithowa> when i'm using emacs over ssh on my ubuntu machine, I get a lot of  characters and other unusal characters.  what's going wrong?
[04:29] <amphi> zithowa: putty?
[04:29] <jenna> Heya people!
[04:29] <mr_foamfingermak> What can I use to rip dvd's?
[04:29] <thoreauputic> zithowa: sounds like utf-8 trouble
[04:29] <Arrick> a computer and a dvd rom mr_foamfingermak
[04:29] <amphi> mr_foamfingermak: acidrip is a gui fe to mencoder, for one
[04:29] <zithowa> amphi: yes
[04:29] <amphi> zithowa: is it just emacs, or any ncurses prog?
[04:29] <SlayPain> any way to install a canon scanner in ubuntu, bacause it is no reconized by ubuntu
[04:30] <Arrick> SlayPain, check out the wike for compatibility yet?
[04:30] <linux_galore> SlayPain: connon are very anti open source
[04:30] <thoreauputic> SlayPain: write a letter to Canon and ask them politely to support Linux
[04:30] <Arrick> !scanner
[04:30] <ubotu> For scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[04:30] <zithowa> amphi: i'm not sure.  probably all ncurses programs, although i don't know what ncurses is
[04:30] <kyath> dapper
[04:30] <nickrud> SlayPain, if your scanner is not automatically seen by ubuntu, see what arrick said, then maybe http://www.sane-project.org/
[04:30] <linux_galore> conon have a terrible track record on Linux
[04:30] <linux_galore> canon*
[04:30] <jenna> I bought a cannon scanner specifically for its good linux support
[04:30] <amphi> zithowa: you might find that installing ncurses-term fixes it; if not, try messing with putty's $TERM
[04:31] <Arrick> jenna, yeah right
[04:31] <thoreauputic> jenna: huh? which one?
[04:31] <jenna> but that was only because the scanner drivery people are good hackers, cannon had nothing to do with such support
[04:31] <thoreauputic> ah
[04:31] <jenna> CanoScan LiDE 20
[04:31] <kyath> ubot dapper chat room
[04:31] <Arrick> haha
[04:31] <amphi> SlayPain: have a look for it on sane.org
[04:31] <linux_galore> jenna: canon have made it very public they dont want to support Linux, there nothing like HP, HP has a full blown site for Linux support
[04:31] <nickrud> kyath, #ubuntu+1
[04:31] <thoreauputic> jenna: OK - I know some aresuported - but not many sadly
[04:32] <Arrick> jenna, one of my techs wrote a driver so we could use those, he wrote it about a year ago
[04:32] <Arrick> haha
[04:32] <kyath> ty
[04:32] <rab> I just installed fluxbox, in the menu i only see three things, xterm restart andexit. How do i get all of my applications in that menu
[04:32] <zithowa> amphi: i'm not sure what $TERM is used for, could you explain a little or tell me what to google?
[04:32] <jenna> neat
[04:32] <thoreauputic> rab: did you compileoruse apt?
[04:32] <jenna> it works well.. and it was really cheap
[04:32] <rab> apt
[04:32] <amphi> zithowa: did you install ncurses-term and try logging in again with putty?
[04:32] <Arrick> yeah, thats why about every class in the district has them now
[04:33] <thoreauputic> rab: should be OK - you can install the menu program - or see if the package includes fluxbox_generate-menu
[04:33] <rootaccess> !tell rootaccess about list
[04:34] <thoreauputic> rab: the "menu" package gives you Debian-stylemenus
[04:34] <thoreauputic> bah Debian style
[04:34] <linux_galore> if you reverse engineer anything from canon so you have Linux support canon sues you
[04:34] <zithowa> amphi: i just did, and I still get weird characters in emacs, also when i run make
[04:35] <jenna> I'm trying to get some files off a ubuntu breezy pc on to a ubuntu dapper beta 2 pc, both are networked together
[04:35] <nickrud> linux_galore, you're poor, why would they sue you?
[04:35] <jenna> i've tried using smb, but they seem to ask for a password to access the smb resource.. and there's nowhere to set a password, and it doesn't work if you try and login with it blank
[04:36] <jenna> what do i do?
[04:36] <thoreauputic> jenna: install openssh-server and use scp
[04:36] <Arrick> WinSCP
[04:36] <jenna> winscp? that doesn't sound like the kind of thing that would run in ubuntu...
[04:36] <linux_galore> nickrud: because they have cut a deal with someone else
[04:36] <linux_galore> nickrud: name begins with M
[04:36] <thoreauputic> jenna: see my answer above
[04:36] <Arrick> oh sorry wrong channel jenna
[04:37] <mikeb> haha
[04:37] <thoreauputic> ;)
[04:37] <nickrud> linux_galore, heh. I get overly agressive, and thank the noodle monster for hp, sort of
[04:37] <Arrick> thoreauputic, please do it again, I could use the knowledge on my network
[04:37] <jenna> thats annoying, i want a propper networkey dealie for a more perminant set up
[04:37] <theverant> are changes to udev picked up right away, or do I need to reboot for them to take effect?
[04:37] <thoreauputic> Arrick: haha :D
[04:37] <mikeb> jenna, you're going to have to do some reading about smb and acl's
[04:37] <jenna> can i use nfs or something if smb wont work? i can't figure out how you connect to nfs, though its pretty obvious how to share stuff on it
[04:38] <spikeb> yeah you can
[04:38] <thoreauputic> jenna: you mount things for nfs
[04:38] <jenna> i'm just setting this up with the "System > Administration > Share Folders" option..
[04:38] <jenna> oookay.. how?
[04:38] <mikeb> oooh, graphical :P
[04:39] <thoreauputic> http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/
[04:39] <jenna> i'm not a command line kinda girl   o^
[04:39] <thoreauputic> jenna: read the guide I just posted
[04:39] <Arrick> hey they dont have dapper set to install as a automatic update do they?
[04:39] <mikeb> jenna, i like command line girls :P
[04:39] <nickrud> jenna, two more years, you might be able to live without the commandline
[04:39] <thoreauputic> jenna: nautilus also does ssh by the way
[04:40] <Arrick> jenna, took me about ten minutes to learn to live with command in here
[04:40] <Arrick> nobody likes to help a gui user haha
[04:40] <eggzeck> Arrick, no
[04:40] <zithowa> amphi: is there a way to test if ncurses-term is doing what it should be doing?  $TERM is still xterm
[04:40] <nickrud> Arrick, not true
[04:40] <thoreauputic> Arrick: it's just quicker to give commands onIRC
[04:40] <jenna> i already live happily without the command line.. this is the first time i've had to use it in ubuntu
[04:40] <Arrick> I know, thats why I said haha
[04:41] <nickrud> Arrick, as the gui gets better, more help will go that way
[04:41] <Arrick> LOL, :^) I know
[04:41] <mmmiiikkkeee> i woudl like to change my default text editor from gedit to emacs how do i go about doing this?
[04:41] <linux_galore> its not that we dont like helping a GUI user, its just the fact that explaining in text how to do something via the menu's  ie click on system/leg/foot then goto finger menu etc is just too slow
[04:41] <eggzeck> Arrick, I meant no to your update question.
[04:41] <Arrick> I just had to get a rise out of someone tonight, my wifes not up to it
[04:41] <thoreauputic> nickrud: it's still a pain having to type click this, then click that, then click,...
[04:41] <randomguy> hello
[04:41] <thoreauputic> Arrick: it worked ;)
[04:42] <Arrick> oh eggzeck thanks for letting me know, I just did a default install, and autoupdate sayd 153 files to be updated
[04:42] <randomguy> i am new to ubuntu, it seems like there are no repositories with 3rd party software
[04:42] <linux_galore> randomguy: yes there are
[04:42] <eggzeck> Arrick, of course, its a new install.
[04:42] <Arrick> !easysource
[04:42] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:42] <anjin_> I just installed Dapper Flight 7 on my main PC as a dual boot with XP.  This machine has a new ATI Radeon x1600 Pro video card.. when I try booting into Ubuntu X will not start, and I instead get kicked to the CLI.  Any help would be vastly appreciated!
[04:42] <nickrud> thoreauputic, I know people who cannot type. I hate rollerballs, but they do, and the click stuff is critical for them.
[04:42] <eggzeck> Arrick, so after a new install , there are MANY updates to do :)
[04:42] <Arrick> hey randomguy look at ubotus post
[04:42] <spikeb> !ati
[04:42] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:42] <intelikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d14365 anyone know a fix ?
[04:43] <djs_2_6> Hey all.  I am on Breezy, and having trouble playing what is named to be a h264 encoded video file.  How can I solve this?
[04:43] <Arrick> eggzeck, I wouldnt know, never had a gui on it before, so no sutoupdat
[04:43] <BOBJohnson> Aloha all.
[04:43] <mmmiiikkkeee> how do i goabout changing my deafult text editor from gedit to emacs
[04:43] <linux_galore> djs_2_6: easyubuntu
[04:44] <BOBJohnson> Looking for a spot of help on a dual monitor question if anyone has a minute.
[04:44] <linux_galore> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[04:44] <djs_2_6> linux_galore - I'm sorry?
[04:44] <Arrick> !ask
[04:44] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[04:44] <linux_galore> djs_2_6: link ^^
[04:44] <thoreauputic> nickrud: I'm a lousy typist actually - but I still use CLI - I'm not at all against point-and-click though - I do that too
[04:45] <nickrud> meng, I'm a damn good typist :)
[04:45] <randomguy> so i just put these urls in repository in synaptic?
[04:45] <djs_2_6> linux_galore - Thank you for that, but I am just looking for the exact solution for my problem.  I am reasonably *nix familiar...
[04:45] <nickrud> erm, s/meng/me/ sorry meng
[04:45] <Arrick> randomguy, no in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:46] <BOBJohnson> Ok..I have the dual monitor setup and working.  It's beautiful.  I have it so each monitor acts as its own desktop, with its own menu and bg and everything.  My only complaint is at times I start a program in one monitor and want to move it to the other.  But I can't seem to figure out how to do this.  Click & Drag doesn't seem to work.
[04:46] <linux_galore> djs_2_6: well if it doesnt play it means you dont have the codec its that simple
[04:46] <djs_2_6> linux_galore - I know that.  I am just looking for the exact needed codec...
[04:46] <BOBJohnson> So basically, I want to know if it is possible to move programs between the two, and if so, how?
[04:46] <sangenfant> I haven't been able to run X for almost a week now, and it looks like something to do with fonts
[04:46] <amphi> zithowa: sorry, i was afk
[04:46] <linux_galore> djs_2_6: aah quicker to google for the package the codec is in
[04:46] <meng> anyone has idea to why my dapper's Open Office icons disappear when i go through over them?
[04:46] <sangenfant> can anyone help me?
[04:46] <dibblego> what's the package name for a C compiler?
[04:46] <Arrick> google with that extension and linux in the search djs_2_6
[04:47] <djs_2_6> Arrick - Already did.  Found Xvid, tried to install, did not help...
[04:47] <BOBJohnson> So can anyone experienced with dual monitor setups help me with this?
[04:47] <nickrud> dibblego, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[04:47] <Arrick> !patience
[04:47] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[04:47] <linux_galore> djs_2_6: xvid is a front end not a codec
[04:48] <amphi> zithowa: does setting TERM to putty help ?
[04:48] <phreekbird> anyone have any luck with dri and ubuntu ... got an ati radeon mobil 7500 card
[04:48] <dibblego> ta
[04:48] <Arrick> !ati
[04:48] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:48] <mmmiiikkkeee> BOBJohnson i had that problem when i set up my dual monitor... what kind of vidoe card do u have i am using an ATI card
[04:48] <amphi> phreekbird: yup
[04:48] <BOBJohnson> mmmiiikkkeee, I am also using an ATI.
[04:49] <djs_2_6> linux_galore - Ok.  So, what is the codec I would need, then?
[04:49] <anjin_> well, thanks anyway.  I dont think some of those links apply... but will try working with them anyway.  I cant get any GUI with my ATI at all...
[04:49] <Arrick> anjin_, did you reconfigure X yet?
[04:50] <anjin_> I tried, yes.. kept getting the same errors.
[04:50] <nickrud> anjin_, that ati page has been tested, retested and tested again
[04:50] <troy> need some help - using amd64/fglrx - using the blender packages for dapper, I get font problems galore... can anyone confirm this and/or offer a solution?
[04:50] <theverant> anyone know what could keep software communicating with a scanner?
[04:50] <theverant> it is detected, and the right SANE backend is being used
[04:50] <mmmiiikkkeee> BOBJohnson i read a lot of shit on how to set on config files to set up vitural desktops and non of it worked.. but there turned out to be a really easy to use script that came from ati taht set everthing up correctly i dont recall the dte though srry
[04:51] <anjin_> I'm going to try some of those tricks... I tried an apt-get upgrade first to see if that helped.  Just finishing that now
[04:51] <Arrick> troy, go to ubuntu+1 for dapper support please
[04:51] <linux_galore> djs_2_6: you need to install the package x264-bin  in multiverse
[04:51] <eggzeck> anjin_, make sure you have the right drivers and edit the xorg.conf
[04:51] <theverant> I know it *can* work... it worked in Mandriva... I really want to be able to us Ubuntu though
[04:51] <wims> !xorg
[04:51] <ubotu> [xorg]  To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[04:51] <linux_galore> djs_2_6: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/sound/
[04:51] <BOBJohnson> mmmiiikkkeee,  I am just using the default drivers, instead of the proprietary drivers from ATI.  Are you using the one directly from ATI?
[04:52] <theverant> scanning software loads with no errors, but it can not access the scanner
[04:52] <eggzeck> anjin_, do you have "xorg-driver-fglrx"?
[04:52] <kyath> anyone know how i can get the mozilla active x control plugin
[04:52] <djs_2_6> linux_galore - Thank you.  And that will be compatible with Breezy?
[04:52] <linux_galore> kyath: hmm hold I have the linl
[04:52] <linux_galore> link*
[04:53] <mmmiiikkkeee> i am useing the proprietary ones yes and i get 3d excelleration on both screens
[04:53] <amphi> theverant: perms on the relevant /proc/bus/usb directory and/or files?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> kyath,  that the one that comes with cedega?
[04:53] <anjin_> The pages given say that fglrx dont support x1600 line cards :(
[04:53] <kyath> great
[04:53] <linux_galore> djs_2_6: its in the breezy multivers so you just apt-get install  it
[04:53] <nickrud> active x? That's not available on linux, normally, and thankfully
[04:53] <kyath> im using wine but it requires active x
[04:53] <theverant> amphi - I added the scanner to udev so I can see it without SUDO, is the /proc/bus/usb a different permission?
[04:53] <djs_2_6> I have the breezy multiverse set up, and I do not find it...
[04:54] <BOBJohnson> mmmiiikkkeee, when I first tried getting the dual monitor going, I tried installing the ATI drivers, and it kept giving me some error about incorrect kernel.
[04:54] <BOBJohnson> Did you ever run into something like that when first doing it?
[04:54] <linux_galore> kyath: http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/plugin.htm#download
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> kyath,  what program says it needs activex?
[04:54] <BOBJohnson> I am probably just typing something wrong.
[04:54] <kyath> online poker game
[04:54] <mmmiiikkkeee> BOBJohnson u can try searching on here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FindPage it has been the most helpfull site for me so far for most things i have been doing
[04:54] <kyath> ty linux~
[04:55] <amphi> theverant: oh, it's use the /dev file? forget about /proc/bus/usb then, I think
[04:55] <BOBJohnson> Thanks.
[04:55] <amphi> theverant: does xsane work as root?
[04:55] <theverant> xsane works as non root now that I fixed udev
[04:55] <BOBJohnson> Grrr...trying to slim down the network list in XChat and accidently deleted the one for this server...
[04:55] <theverant> but root or non root it can't access the scanner
[04:55] <theverant> before it wouldn't even load
[04:56] <theverant> amphi - before I made the change scanimage -L told me there was no scanner, now it sees it, but I can't use it.
[04:56] <theverant> so close yet so far :p
[04:56] <linux_galore> BOBJohnson: should look at turning /home in a cvs repository that way you can wind back the file version when you stuff up
[04:58] <amphi> theverant: not as root either?
[04:58] <BOBJohnson> linux_galore, can you give me a link to a guide or something for a cvs repository...
[04:58] <theverant> amphi - no xsane/iscan/kooka none can talk to the scanner
[04:58] <theverant> like I said though, it did work when I had Mandriva installed way back when
[04:59] <BOBJohnson> A ccvs repository is install programs for linux right?  Or am I way off base?  Sorry, still an uber noob at linux.
[04:59] <mikeb> !cvs
[04:59] <ubotu> cvs is probably the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[04:59] <theverant> so I know the backend works... somehow... :p
[04:59] <linux_galore> BOBJohnson: http://linuxjournal.com/article/5976
[04:59] <linux_galore> BOBJohnson: theres also a nice howto to use subversion to do the versioning on your /home directory
[05:00] <BOBJohnson> Thanks.
[05:01] <anjin_> Ok, I installed fglrx and updated my xorg.conf ... now X will load, but to a blank screen with an X as a cursor... and just hangs there doing nothing.  Wont even let me reboot :(
[05:01] <amphi> theverant: does scanimage say where it is?
[05:03] <mmmiiikkkeee> any one know how i can make emacs my default text editor instead of gedit?
[05:03] <david__> only english
[05:04] <theverant> amphi - yep libusb:002:005
[05:04] <kyath> linux_galore: do u know where i need to move the active x pkugin to
[05:04] <theverant> amphi - sorry epkowa:libusb:002:005
[05:05] <linux_galore> kyath: open the extension window and drag and drop the file on the window
[05:05] <amphi> theverant: in that case, the perms of /proc/bus/usb/002/005 might be worth looking at
[05:05] <kyath> extention window?
[05:05] <kyath> in wine folder?
[05:05] <kyath> or mozilla-firefox
[05:05] <theverant> amphi - how do I do that, exactly? :)
[05:06] <anjin_> Dumbass ATI cards.  I had to unplug the PC to reboot.. now I can get to a esktop.  Why now when not before?  Damned if I know... thanks for all the help guys.  I'm still a Linux noob, but I'm learning!  Ubuntu is on my laptop and I use it on an ancient PII as a file server.  If TheGIMP ever gets as powerful and usable as Photoshop, I may make the switch 100% :)
[05:06] <theverant> I'm a bit of a noob
[05:06] <kyath> or firefox it self
[05:06] <kyath> im guessin firefox browser
[05:06] <linux_galore> kyath: yes, in firefox its Tools Extensions, leave the file on your desktop and drak and drop it on the extensions window
[05:06] <linux_galore> drag*
[05:06] <amphi> theverant: ls -l :) you want to change them so that members of the scanner group can read and write IIRC
[05:07] <theverant> anjin_ - i found Gimp to be better than photoshop for what I do... but everyone has different needs
[05:07] <theverant> amphi - IIRC?
[05:07] <kyath> have an error 202
[05:07] <Cloud_tm> Hello!
[05:07] <amphi> theverant: 'if I recall correctly
[05:07] <Cloud_tm> I have a question
[05:07] <kyath> failed install of npmozax.dll
[05:07] <linux_galore> kyath: aah that not an extensions read the howto
[05:08] <amphi> !IIRC is <reply>IIRC means 'if I recall correctly'
[05:08] <ubotu> ...but iirc is already something else...
[05:08] <amphi> !iirc
[05:08] <ubotu> it has been said that iirc is "If I Remember Correctly", (If I remember correctly... )
[05:08] <Cloud_tm> Whenever I try to for example, remvoe a broekn pakcage, it says that the things to be removed are pretty much everything. All my core files, etc... why?
[05:08] <amphi> ok ;)
[05:08] <pmw> How does one remove a service from startup?
[05:08] <anjin_> theverant - Well, I'm a graphic design student who can't afford a Mac ... I need to know all of the Adobe appz.  TheGIMP won't cut it in the pro graphic design field.  I like GIMP, dont get me wrong... it's amazing as an opensource program.
[05:08] <linux_galore> kyath: the fact your asking tells me you didnt read it
[05:08] <kyath> lol
[05:08] <thoreauputic> !author iirc
[05:08] <ubotu> thoreauputic: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:08] <thoreauputic> ubotu: bah
[05:08] <theverant> yeah it's not really for design
[05:08] <ubotu> thoreauputic: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:08] <amphi> anjin_: pantone is a big problem for gimp
[05:08] <pmw> Say, if 'gdm' always starts and you don't want it to, what's the way to stop it from doing so?
[05:08] <theverant> it handles layers better than photoshop though
[05:09] <theverant> I use a fraction of the RAM with GIMP over PS
[05:09] <amphi> pmw: update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[05:09] <pmw> amphi: thanks.
[05:09] <theverant> I always thought IIRC was a program... :p
[05:09] <amphi> theverant: heh
[05:09] <nickrud> haha
[05:09] <anjin_> Yeah, but with 2GB of RAM .. I'm not worried.  :)
[05:09] <Cloud_tm> Opera will not install properyl
[05:09] <Cloud_tm> On breezy
[05:09] <theverant> I have 2GB of RAM
[05:09] <thoreauputic> !opera
[05:10] <theverant> PS wanted up to 16GB for some of my projects
[05:10] <thoreauputic> !+opera
[05:10] <ubotu> well, opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser for Dapper see http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-241/intel-linux/
[05:10] <Cloud_tm> I have done everything
[05:10] <Cloud_tm> it needs a dependency
[05:10] <Cloud_tm> and when I go to install the dependency via terminal
[05:11] <Cloud_tm> it needs to remvoe all of my core files to continue
[05:11] <Cloud_tm> why?
[05:11] <wims> I'm following this howto (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29%7C%28dual%29%7C%28head%29) on how to install ATI drivers, however i fail on the final step, building the modules for the kernel. I'm getting Error 1, does anybody know what that error means ?
[05:11] <theverant> amphi - so I checked /proc/bus/usb/002/005 and I got -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 50 2006-05-20 24:55 005
[05:11] <thoreauputic> Cloud_tm: what does it want to remove ? Probably a metapackage
[05:12] <Cloud_tm> ill show you
[05:12] <anjin_> eh, I run Photoshop and Illustrator on XP with 2GB of RAM and have no problems.  I had issues when I had only 1GB though.  To each his own though.  As long as you can get the job done, that's all the matters.  I just wish Adobe made appz that worked on linux.. I could abandon XP for good :)
[05:12] <thoreauputic> Cloud_tm: if it's long don't paste it here
[05:12] <thoreauputic> !paste
[05:12] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[05:12] <theverant> anjin_ don't expect that to happen anytime soon... but hey, once apple goes to Windows and makes OS X open source that'll be fine, too, right? ;)
[05:13] <Cloud_tm> ill show it to you in sperate window
[05:13] <Cloud_tm> !paste
[05:13] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[05:13] <thoreauputic> Cloud_tm: no, use the pastebin
[05:13] <anjin_> if I could run OSX on my PC without hacking it to bits, I'd be a happy man.  :)
[05:13] <theverant> hell I'd be happy if Apple just released OS X for PCs... it's not open source, but it's certainly better than Windows
[05:13] <Cloud_tm> how?
[05:13] <amphi> theverant: xsane should work as root; to use as your user you want to make it owned by root.scanner, chmod 660 it, and make sure your user is in the scanner group
[05:14] <theverant> amphi - xsane loads, but won't talk to the scanner
[05:14] <Cloud_tm> how do I use the pastebin?
[05:14] <BOBJohnson> theverant...it'd probably not have all the hardware drivers it needs...Aren't most of their PCs proprietary for Mac?
[05:14] <amphi> theverant: there is (obviously) a way to automate setting these perms and ownership when the device is plugged in, but I forget exactly what
[05:14] <thoreauputic> Cloud_tm: just highlight the error message and copy paste it onthe paste site
[05:14] <anjin_> Anyway.. now that I have X running.. I'm gonna take off and play with it :)
[05:14] <theverant> "failed to start scanner: invalid argument"
[05:14] <amphi> theverant: as root?
[05:14] <anjin_> later.. and thanks for the help
[05:15] <theverant> amphi - yeah
[05:15] <thoreauputic> Cloud_tm: then tell us the URL for it
[05:16] <Cloud_tm> ok
[05:16] <theverant> BOBJohnson - it's a unix hack, they can add PC support if they wanted... home users have hacked it to work on their PCs.  If I had the right setup it would probably work on mine, but alas, it doesn't like my system
[05:17] <theverant> As usual Apple is just being a giant prick about it.  I hate how they make such great stuff and then put stupid restrictions on it.
[05:17] <theverant> I think they do it just to piss me off
[05:18] <thoreauputic> amphi: the new fluxbox seems good so far - not much different fromthe previous one afaics
[05:18] <amphi> thoreauputic: uhuh
[05:18] <thoreauputic> amphi: I had to hack a file for /usr/share/xsessions but that is normal :)
[05:19] <thoreauputic> hi Madpilot
[05:19] <amphi> thoreauputic: /usr/share/xsessions?
[05:19] <Madpilot> hi thoreauputic
[05:19] <thoreauputic> amphi: yes, that's where the gdm entries live
[05:19] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:19] <thoreauputic> amphi: fluxbox.desktop etc
[05:20] <thoreauputic> amphi: I used to just do startx but I got lazy ;P
[05:20] <theverant> thoreauputic - what advantages does flux have over, say, xfce in your opinion?
[05:20] <amphi> thoreauputic: ah ;)
[05:21] <thoreauputic> theverant: xfce is nice - but I like tabbed windows
[05:21] <theverant> I used it a while back and found it ok... a little spartan though
[05:21] <phreekbird> crap amphi can u post your xorg.conf again plz
[05:21] <amphi> theverant: too bloated ;)
[05:21] <protocol1> can I get the command to open a tar.gz file?
[05:21] <theverant> right... I remeber the tabbed windows... those there hot shit
[05:21] <thoreauputic> theverant: you can add bling as desired
[05:21] <noiesmo> protocol1, tar xvzf
[05:21] <theverant> bloated... uh-huuuh
[05:21] <protocol1> k
[05:22] <andrejkw> what 3D game do u guys reccomend?
[05:22] <andrejkw> mainly FPS?
[05:22] <thoreauputic> amphi: real men use binary and patch cables!
[05:22] <theverant> I'm not smart enough to add bling
[05:22] <thoreauputic> :P
[05:22] <theverant> the best I can manage is downloading new themes
[05:22] <amphi> thoreauputic: ;)
[05:22] <thoreauputic> theverant: sure you are
[05:22] <theverant> I never could get the idesk working
[05:22] <amphi> phreekbird: got it?
[05:22] <theverant> and I missed having a usable desktop :)
[05:22] <thoreauputic> theverant: the docs at fluxbox.org are good
[05:22] <phreekbird> yup thanks
[05:23] <amphi> phreekbird: YMMV ;)
[05:23] <theverant> yeah... I just don't have time to be honest
[05:23] <theverant> I want it to work dammit...
[05:23] <thoreauputic> theverant: ah, well that's different
[05:23] <SZF> i wanted that scanner...
[05:23] <theverant> that's the whole reason I went back to using Windows
[05:23] <thoreauputic> theverant: nothing wrong with gnome or kde really
[05:24] <amphi> theverant: scanners can be a PITA - did you look on sane.org for any info?
[05:24] <theverant> xfce is fine for me... KDE is ok too... I'm not too hot on gnome
[05:24] <theverant> amphi - yeah I've read tons of stuff
[05:24] <theverant> I know I need to use epkowa which is provided by epson
[05:24] <SZF> you guys knowagood usb wifi connector?
[05:24] <theverant> in the iscan package, which I installed
[05:25] !lilo:*! we've been experiencing some connectivity problems with a main rotation server, and it split again about five minutes ago; we've removed it from rotation
[05:25] <amphi> theverant: :( I don't have sane here; does findscanner or whatever it's called give any more info than scanimage -L ?
[05:25] <theverant> I just don't know why it wou;dn't work in Ubuntu
[05:25] <mr_foamfingermak> Anyone able to point me in the right direction...powerbook g4, dapper beta, bcom extreme bcm4311 I think
[05:25] <mr_foamfingermak> what do I need to do to get it to work.
[05:26] <amphi> !bcm4311
[05:26] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, amphi
[05:26] <amphi> pfft
[05:26] <theverant> amphi just the manufacturer and model codes
[05:26] <theverant> which I plugged into the dll
[05:26] <luke> I made firestarter --start-hidden, how do I make the GUI appear now?
[05:26] <theverant> it bugs me that the scanner worked right off in Mandriva
[05:26] <theverant> cuz that distro annoyed me
[05:26] <I_Love_DRM> Can someone please tell me the file that is read when booting up ubuntu (i.e the one that issues the sync clock etc etc) I want to remove the items I dont require to speed the bootup
[05:27] <amphi> theverant: did you look at /etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf ?
[05:27] <theverant> it kept auto configuring things I didn't want to
[05:27] <thoreauputic> mr_foamfingermak: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/
[05:27] <theverant> yeah that's where i add the usb model info
[05:27] <thoreauputic> mr_foamfingermak: packages for airport extreme
[05:28] <mr_foamfingermak> nice
[05:28] <mr_foamfingermak> Thanks thoreauputic
[05:28] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:28] <mr_foamfingermak> im gonna dig into it
[05:28] <amphi> I_Love_DRM: the scripts are in /etc/init.d - you can disable them with update-rc.d or by deleting/renaming symlinks in /etc/rc2.d
[05:28] <mr_foamfingermak> man if I get this working!
[05:28] <mr_foamfingermak> I will be the man
[05:28] <thoreauputic> mr_foamfingermak: there's a wiki page too
[05:28] <theverant> garrrrggggggkkkkk thpppppppp :p~~~~~~~
[05:28] <I_Love_DRM> Si it runs all the scripts under init.d?
[05:28] <I_Love_DRM> so*
[05:29] <amphi> theverant: did you google?
[05:29] <thoreauputic> mr_foamfingermak: try wiki.ubuntu.com/wifi
[05:29] <theverant> amphi - many many times
[05:29] <amphi> theverant: what model is your thing?
[05:30] <theverant> I found some instructions for Breezy, but breezy will NOT install on my computer... Dapper is what I am running
[05:30] <theverant> it's Epson 3170
[05:30] <thoreauputic> mr_foamfingermak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Device/AirportExtreme
[05:30] <amphi> theverant: now you tell us ;)
[05:30] <SZF> anybody know a real good usb wifi connector so I can connect to my wifi network?
[05:30] <amphi> theverant: but it doesn't use epson.conf?
[05:30] <thoreauputic> ubotu airport is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Device/AirportExtreme
[05:30] <ubotu> okay, thoreauputic
[05:30] <I_Love_DRM> Which of those scripts should I delete to stop the Hp printing and scanning and the raid devices part?
[05:30] <theverant> amphi - no it has to use proprietary epkowa.conf
[05:31] <theverant> A lot of Epsons higher end scanners are like that
[05:31] <theverant> epson.conf only works for low end stuff
[05:31] <theverant> from what I can tell
[05:32] <amphi> theverant: what version of iscan do you have? or are you not using it
[05:32] <theverant> I have the newest version
[05:33] <theverant> v2
[05:33] <ujs> .lola
[05:33] <ujs> ol
[05:33] <amphi> theverant: and that doesn't find it, even as root?
[05:33] <ujs> no
[05:33] <I_Love_DRM> can I just delete the hplip sh from /etc/init.d?
[05:34] <theverant> nope
[05:34] <theverant> scanimage -L sees it though
[05:35] <amphi> theverant: this might be worth a try: in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf, change 'epson' to '#epson', and add 'epkowa' - or have you already done that? ;)
[05:36] <theverant> amphi - did that :)
[05:36] <theverant> maybe I'll # everything but epkowa, just for shits n giggles
[05:36] <amphi> theverant: heh - this any good? http://www.twuug.org/lists/twuug/2005-04/msg00009.html
[05:37] <amphi> theverant: or BTDT? ;)
[05:37] <theverant> BTDT?
[05:38] <amphi> !btdt
[05:38] <ubotu> amphi: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:38] <amphi> !btdt is <reply> 'been there, done that'
[05:38] <ubotu> amphi: okay
[05:38] <theverant> I don't think Dapper uses hotplug... it uses udev doesn't it? or are the two not mutually exclusive?
[05:39] <amphi> theverant: they're different things, I believe - I'm a static /dev diehard, so don't trust me on that
[05:39] <noiesmo> udev is replacing hotplug from my understanding
[05:39] <amphi> theverant: you might have more luck in #ubuntu+1
[05:40] <theverant> nobody seems to want to talk about scanners in there :p
[05:40] <theverant> /etc/hotplug/usb.usermap doesn't exist though
[05:40] <ubuntu233> I am trying to install GRUB using the Live CD (Ubuntu is already installed, apparently GRUB is not). grub-install -h says you need to specify install_device, so I did "sudo grub-install /dev/sda", but it says "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[05:41] <theverant> so... I don't think dapper is using hotplug specifically
[05:41] <ubuntu233> Any ideas?
[05:41] <I_Love_DRM> Can someone please tell me the command to remove the hplip from init.d - i tryed update-rc.d hplip remove
[05:41] <amphi> I_Love_DRM: try with -f
[05:41] <I_Love_DRM> it said it exists during purge
[05:42] <amphi> I_Love_DRM: as man update-rc.d would tell you
[05:42] <I_Love_DRM> ok sorry I put the -f in the wrong place :/
[05:43] <amphi> heh
[05:43] <ubuntu233> What would people in IRC do if every Linux package/command had not been "thoroughly" documented?
[05:43] <amphi> ubuntu233: document them?
[05:44] <noiesmo> ubuntu233, ask more questions hehe
[05:44] <ubuntu233> amphi, Huh?
[05:45] <amphi> ubuntu233: ?
[05:45] <mr_foamfingermak> Where is the sources.list file?
[05:45] <mr_foamfingermak> etc?
[05:46] <noiesmo> /etc/apt/
[05:46] <mr_foamfingermak> thx
[05:46] <derek__> hey guys does anyone know how to use python?
[05:46] <ubuntu233> Anyway, does anyone have any suggestions for my question? What exactly does "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive." mean?
[05:47] <derek__> i need help with bundling python code. any1?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> derek_,  care to clarify a little more?
[05:54] <technel> I am trying to install GRUB using the Live CD (Ubuntu is already installed, apparently GRUB is not). grub-install -h says you need to specify install_device, so I did "sudo grub-install /dev/sda", but it says "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[05:55] <amphi> Dr_Willis: he is no longer with us
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> well *#$*@#&&@@ him then!
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:56] <amphi> heh
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> what is the method for entering 'funny' characters  :P like windows and its alt-### method. ( like for spanish and other  special letters)
[05:57] <alexcamilo> Hello, i'm having some trouble with ubuntu 5.10 on my clamshell ibook.
[05:57] <alexcamilo> it installed
[05:57] <alexcamilo> and x starts but the desktop doesnt load
[05:58] <Dyngo> June 1st, is that the release date for Dapper?
[05:59] <amphi> Dr_Willis: I use the the compose key and digrphs
[05:59] <amphi> Dr_Willis: in console - in X compose is called Multi_Key IIRC
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> amphi,  ok.. so what compose key is this? lol..  ive never seen it done.
[06:02] <amphi> Dr_Willis: often it's mapped to printscreen
[06:03] <amphi> Dr_Willis: have a look for it in /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz perhaps
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> amphi,  ok.. googling for compose key got me --> http://process-of-elimination.net/wiki/Means_of_Composing_Accented_Characters_in_X_Window_System
[06:04] <amphi> Dr_Willis: you also need the digraph stuff in there, eg "compose 'a' 'e' to ''"
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> lol. i hit/held the print screen key . andabout 100 'save screen shot' dialogs came up  (using kde)
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> at least i could click on the taskbar and 'close all' - i would of been rebooting if this was windows.
[06:06] <amphi> Dr_Willis: heh - I guess you'll have to make something else Multi_Key
[06:07] <amphi> Dr_Willis: CapsLock might be a good candidate ;)
[06:07] <Dr_Willis>    3.  from within a Gtk+ application, type Control + Shift + (character code).
[06:08] <whiter> anyone know how i could get mpd to start when my computer starts?
[06:08] <amphi> I like me digraphs ;)
[06:08] <amphi> whiter: write an init script for it
[06:08] <whiter> how would i go about doing tha?
[06:09] <amphi> whiter: copy one in /etc/init.d and adjust to taste; you can use update-rc.d to create the runlevel symlinks
[06:09] <whiter> ok
[06:10] <whiter> oh wait
[06:11] <whiter> thisi still dont know what to do
[06:11] <whiter> lol
[06:11] <amphi> whiter: you might find the docs in /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc of use
[06:11] <amphi> whiter: or see the README in /etc/init.d
[06:12] <whiter> the readme doesnt really explain anything
[06:12] <IYY> anyone knows where I can find the program 'mkimage' (to convert a cramfs filesystem to a valid image for a specific architecture)? source, deb, anything...
[06:12] <whiter> all i want is one command to be ran when the pc starts
[06:12] <whiter> hmm
[06:12] <neosc> looks from my synaptic manager that gcc is installed.. yet when i gcc from the terminal.. i get a 'command not found'.. any ideas?
[06:13] <Flannel> neosc: did you install build-essential?
[06:13] <llama32> what must i install for rythmbox to play MP3s?
[06:13] <neosc> gcc 3.3 is greeen in SPM
[06:13] <glyphobet> is there a package that I need to install to get support for external USB or firewire DVD+RW drives?
[06:13] <Flannel> !tell llama32 about mp3
[06:13] <neosc> hmm.. doesnt it instal dependencies by itself?
[06:13] <amphi> whiter: it's best to right a proper script, but if you have a one line command, you could stick it in /etc/bootmisc.sh - note that this is frowned upon ;)
[06:13] <neosc> @flannel
[06:13] <whiter> :D
[06:14] <amphi> whiter: er, /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ;)
[06:14] <whiter> mpd --stdout 6600 /mnt/hdc1/mp3 /mnt/hdc1/mp3 /mnt/hdc1/mp3/log.out /mnt/hdc1/mp3/log.out - is the command i want to be ran
[06:14] <amphi> whiter: if you put it after 'exit 0', you will be disappointed
[06:14] <whiter> that would work in there?
[06:15] <amphi> whiter: what's the stdout option for ?
[06:15] <whiter> stops output
[06:15] <neosc> thanks flannel.. looks like that'll solve it.
[06:15] <amphi> whiter: could work ok...
[06:15] <whiter> lol this is no easier
[06:16] <whiter> :\
[06:17] <amphi> Dr_Willis: multi_keying in #linuxhelp, huh?
[06:18] <whiter> hope that works
[06:18] <whiter> will report back on reboot
[06:18] <whiter> :)
[06:19] <mynimal> I got some more information for one of my problems from earlier
[06:19] <mynimal> It seems that any programs that require me to put in the root password will not open
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> amphi,  :P
[06:19] <mynimal> However, Synaptic does it fine
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> amphi,  they were asking how to do it.
[06:19] <amphi> heh
[06:21] <confused> lamers
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> 0_o
[06:22] <bisquit> How can I install dapper off of a cd with synaptic on breezy?
[06:22] <amphi> confused: lmr shurely ;)
[06:23] <bisquit> Like, how do I get synaptic to update off of the dapper live cd?
[06:23] <bisquit> I have Breezy started up and all, and the cd in (the isntaller on it hates me) and I need to get synaptic to update the packages on my compy wit hthe ones on the cd
[06:24] <technel> I am trying to use grub-install on /dev/sda, but it just says: "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive." Any ideas?
[06:25] <leojstewart> Can somebody tell me how to edit menu items in ubuntu?
[06:26] <leojstewart> I've tried the 'Menu Editor' but it doesn't seem to work...
[06:26] <leojstewart> Any suggestions? (Please)
[06:28] <confused> whois TSS_Killer
[06:28] <confused> oops
[06:28] <technel> leojstewart, Have you tried ~/.config/menus/applications.menu
[06:28] <technel> ?
[06:28] <amphi> who indeed?
[06:28] <alexcamilo> I'm having some trouble w gnome in ubuntu 5.10 for the power PC. i installed it onto a 333mhz ibook. it installs fine. X starts and shows the login window. but when i log in it hangs on the brown screen with the mouse and stays there. the mouse responds and i hear the ubuntu login music played.
[06:28] <leojstewart> no I haven't.
[06:28] <leojstewart> I'm very new to linux
[06:28] <alexcamilo> everything including suspend works. except for the desktop. lol
[06:28] <llama32> mmm pie
[06:29] <amphi> alexcamilo: heh
[06:29] <leojstewart> technel: I will give it a try, thank you.
[06:29] <alexcamilo> i even tried it in failsafe mode
[06:29] <alexcamilo> 3.14159!
[06:29] <technel> leojstewart, I believe it cross-references another file, so if you just go and edit the file at the path in that file, it should work
[06:31] <leojstewart> technel: WORKED! thank you!
[06:32] <cursive-> question, if i have forgotten the account i created at install, am i screwed?
[06:32] <bisquit> Err, what channel would I ask Dapper questions in?
[06:32] <technel> leojstewart, No problem :)
[06:32] <confused> how would we know
[06:32] <amphi> bisquit: #ubuntu+1
[06:33] <alexcamilo> when i tried booting with the live CD everything worked fine.
[06:33] <confused> OH NO
[06:33] <confused> AHHH
[06:33] <confused> DEVIL NUMBER
[06:33] <confused> 666
[06:33] <technel> Anyone have any ideas for my question: I am trying to use grub-install on /dev/sda, but it just says: "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive." Any ideas?
[06:33] <amphi> confused: the permissions of the beast?
[06:33] <amphi> cursive-: you've forgotten your password?
[06:34] <alexcamilo> confused: ah 666. was troubleshooting some code i wrote for a DB. then i noticed there where 666 entries.
[06:34] <cursive-> forggoten the username and password
[06:34] <cursive-> well i think i know the su password, but i cant login to use that
[06:36] <amphi> cursive-: boot in rescue mode, cat /etc/passwd to find out your username, and do passwd <your_username> to make a new password for your user; you may need to do mount / -o remount,rw before running passwd
[06:36] <cursive-> rad, ill try that, cheers.
[06:37] <bisquit> how do I open squashfs files
[06:38] <amphi> bisquit: google might know
[06:39] <anjin_> Can anyone help me get my wacom tablet running properly?  Right now it sees the stylus move, but does not recognize when I actually make contact with the pressure sensitive tablet.
[06:39] <bisquit> Er, is it possible to make a repo on your own computer?
[06:39] <bisquit> And get synaptic to read from it
[06:40] <cursive-> does rescue mode mean recovery mode?
[06:40] <Madpilot> cursive-, yes
[06:40] <amphi> cursive-: actually, it means runlevel 1 ;)
[06:40] <dibblego> is there a wiki page for Apache/Tomcat/mod_jk ?
[06:41] <anjin_> I'll take that as a "no" :)
[06:42] <Perkin> hello
[06:42] <amphi> anjin_: there should be a howto at tldp.org, dunno how out of date it is
[06:42] <Madpilot> !+apache
[06:42] <ubotu> apache is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:42] <Madpilot> dibblego, ^^^
[06:43] <dibblego> Madpilot: that page doesn't have the integration between Apache and Tomcat
[06:43] <anjin_> amphi : Thanks, I'll take a look at that
[06:43] <Madpilot> dibblego, ah, OK. I know someone added some Tomcat stuff a while ago, but I don't know how complete/useful it is...
[06:45] <Perkin> hello
[06:45] <luke> can u run wine on a 64bit system?
[06:45] <Perkin> i'm new here
[06:46] <amphi> hello Perkin
[06:46] <amphi> welcome to this strange ircdom of plenty ;)
[06:47] <Perkin> what is the target of this channel?? i know that it's the official ubuntu channel
[06:47] <Perkin> can i ask all my questions here?
[06:47] <amphi> some of them, at least...
[06:47] <cursive-> that worked, thanks for that amphi :)
[06:48] <amphi> cursive-: cool
[06:48] <amphi> cursive-: did you need to remount / rw ?
[06:48] <cursive-> nope
[06:48] <amphi> Perkin: do you have a question?
[06:49] <amphi> cursive-: ok
[06:49] <Madpilot> Perkin, this is the tech support channel for Ubuntu, basically
[06:49] <Perkin> yes, one question: why the root is almost blocked in Ubuntu?
[06:49] <mythica> hi guys
[06:49] <amphi> !root
[06:49] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:49] <mythica> how do you access samba shares using command line?
[06:49] <mythica> i can access them using konquer
[06:49] <amphi> Perkin: see the url ubotu gave above
[06:50] <Perkin> thanks ubotu
[06:50] <mythica> but I want to link them to my filesystem. Do I need to mount them ?
[06:50] <amphi> mythica: mount -t smbfs blah blah
[06:51] <amphi> mythica: there's also smbmount
[06:52] <anjin_> no luck with the wacom tablet :(
[06:52] <Perkin> ok... and another question is: why when i enter the root password in cups web interface, it doesn't work?
[06:52] <anjin_> No big deal, I guess... I use it mainly in XP for Photoshop, Illustrator, etc... I just wanted to play around with it in GIMP.
[06:53] <luke> what is the correct repository for wine?
[06:53] <amphi> anjin_: wacom should be well supported; I used an old serial one a while back
[06:53] <Perkin> ohh, gksudo it's like kdesu, the solution of all my problems
[06:53] <Madpilot> Perkin, use System->Admin->Printing
[06:54] <superholy1982> hello
[06:54] <Hikyuu> hi
[06:55] <anjin_> amphi: Perhaps, but the link you gave me was - to be frank - way over my head.  I found a few links on google that pointed to a Wacom on Linux page on sourceforge.  I downloaded a package from there and tried running the install-sh, but nothing happened
[06:55] <spikeb> um
[06:55] <spikeb> regarding the topic - the us mirrors are working fine
[06:55] <nivek_> Hi there, I want to convert an .avi to a .mpeg file.. I have to burn a VCD with K3B and I most have an mpeg so.. HEPL ME!!!
[06:55] <mythica> amphi, thanks
[06:55] <amphi> nivek_: mencoder
[06:56] <nivek_> amphi, I can convert what I want with mencoer ?
[06:56] <amphi> nivek_: IIRC it has ouput options for vcd - you'll want the vcdtools package also, I believe
[06:56] <Hikyuu> Im trying to setup wlan0.. and need for dhclient to scan a different subnet mask >.>
[06:56] <amphi> nivek_: depemding on what codecs you have installed
[06:57] <nivek_> amphi, ok.. but where I can find mencoder? I don't find it in Synaptic
[06:57] <amphi> nivek_: the docs have examples of creating [svcd] 
[06:57] <amphi> !tell nivek_ about mplayer
[06:57] <nivek_> amphi, I want to burn an VCD, how ?
[06:57] <superholy1982> what type of bt tool is best?
[06:57] <amphi> nivek_: note that mplayer-doc is a separate package, and has docs for both mplayer and mencoder
[06:57] <anjin_> I have two other issues that are probably more important than the tablet anyway.  First, k3b says I do not have permission to write to my CD/DVD burner.  Secondly, my external USB drives are read only and won't allow me to change permissions (they are NTFS, which may be why.. though I did use Synaptic to install NTFS support)
[06:58] <mythica> I only have smbclient
[06:58] <mythica> Cant find smbmount or smbfs?
[06:59] <amphi> mythica: perhaps install the smbfs package
[06:59] <alexcamilo> um?
[06:59] <Hikyuu> Oh I forgot to say .. need help .. Oh well .>>
[06:59] <alexcamilo> netsplit?
[06:59] <Hikyuu> yeah >>
[06:59] <Perkin> well, i have to go, it's too late in Argentina
[06:59] <alexcamilo> my client makes a pop wne someone discs
[06:59] <Perkin> good bye
[06:59] <alexcamilo> sounded like gunfire
[06:59] <amphi> Perkin: bye
[06:59] <alexcamilo> ttyl
[06:59] <Hikyuu> haha that sucks ;x
[06:59] <anjin_> It's so frustrating to be a newbie again... I thought I was through with that long ago.  :(
[07:00] <amphi> anjin_: never ;)
[07:00] <anjin_> hehe
[07:00] <alexcamilo> welcome to life. ure always a noob at something
[07:00] <amphi> anjin_: ntfs needs some umask stuff in /etc/fstab I believe - sorry to be vague, but I don't use it
[07:00] <Hikyuu> Amphi any ideas on my dilemna.. I can wait till your done with anjin_
[07:01] <anjin_> Yeah, I know... I'm just so used to helping everybody I know with their XP machines.  People come to ME for help... now I'm the clueless noob when it comes to Linux and I dont know anybody to badger for help, so I have to bug all of you :)
[07:01] <amphi> Hikyuu: what do you mean? what's wrong with dhclient wlan0 ?
[07:01] <alexcamilo> you sound like the person who will soon become knowlagable. so it'l be iver soon i guess
[07:02] <anjin_> amphi : Thanks.. I'll check out the Ubuntu forums for ntfs support.  Any ideas on my k3b problem would be appreciated though :)
[07:02] <amphi> anjin_: sorry, don't use it
[07:02] <alexcamilo> its always nice to have something new to learn. or life wouldnt be so interesting
[07:02] <Hikyuu> dhcpdiscover on wlan0  is looking on 255.255.255.255 when my network or w/e is 255.255.0.0 ..
[07:02] <anjin_> amphi : Ok, thanks anyway though :)
[07:03] <Hikyuu> so it doenst get past that step.. whats even odder is it was working fine earlier as ra0 and then I rebooted and it switched the wireless card to wlan0.. and then started being fussy
[07:03] <Hikyuu> doesn't*
[07:03] <amphi> Hikyuu: 255.255.255.255 is just the ultimate broadcast address
[07:03] <nivek_> amphi, I have downloaded mplayer.. I want to encode my video.. what I do?
[07:03] <anjin_> alexcamilo : So true.  I'm learning Linux for the geek fun of it.. I have no real practical purpose for it.  I work in IT for a public school system that uses strictly Windows.  I take graphic design classes that use strictly OSX ...
[07:04] <Hikyuu> k any idea why its not getting dhcpoffers..
[07:04] <amphi> nivek_: read the docs in /usr/share/doc/mplayer
[07:04] <amphi> Hikyuu: no - did you upgrade the driver?
[07:04] <nivek_> amphi, Can I do man mplayer ?
[07:05] <Hikyuu> ummm the ndiswrapper was dled very recently.. and the driver was gotten from the site when I was still wired.. but I cant do too much downloading with it.. since it has no internet
[07:05] <amphi> nivek_: you can indeed, but you may not like it ;) man mplayer is a 'classic' manpage
[07:05] <anjin_> Hmm.. off topic, but would VMWare on an x86 machine recognize an x86 image of OSX?  Hmm
[07:05] <amphi> Hikyuu: you're not using a ralink card?
[07:05] <Hikyuu> Im using a wireless card >.> sorry Im an idiot so if I say something studid tell me
[07:06] <alexcamilo> anjin_: practical purposes will kinda pop up (for me anyway). like now that i can set up a server i'm like. hmm why don't i write my own weblog or something and host it! stuff like that.
[07:06] <nivek_> amphi, which files is the guide for me ?
[07:06] <amphi> nivek_: the docs in /usr/share/doc/mplayer will be more helpful to you, I think; there is a specific section on vcd
[07:07] <amphi> Hikyuu: what card is it? lspci should tell you if you're not sure
[07:07] <nivek_> amphi, I dont find any README or others
[07:07] <Hikyuu> its a linksys wireless g card and I have the ndiswrapper and the correct driver
[07:07] <Hikyuu> e.e
[07:07] <anjin_> alexcamilo : I have an old machine set up as my file server, so I guess that's practical. :)
[07:07] <amphi> nivek_: did you install the mplayer-doc package?
[07:07] <alexcamilo> anji_: i know it will work for the dead-moo image that was floating around but thats been shunned by apple. (no apps run on it). i dont know bout the new one but i'm pretty sure apple did SOMETHING.
[07:08] <amphi> Hikyuu: oh, ok - ra0 made me think it was a ralink, sorry - I don't know about ndiswrapper
[07:08] <slackern> nivek_: file:///usr/share/doc/mplayer-doc/HTML/en/menc-feat-vcd-dvd.html
[07:08] <slackern> nivek_: file:///usr/share/doc/mplayer-doc/HTML/en/menc-feat-mpeg.html
[07:08] <Hikyuu> lol nah ..I dunno why its that
[07:08] <anjin_> alexcamilo : <nod> Thanks.  OSX is the other OS I want to explore some more of.. but no way in hell am I dropping the cash for Apple's hardware.  :)
[07:08] <amphi> nivek_: sorry, /usr/share/doc/mplayer-doc
[07:09] <amphi> anjin_: even after they closed darwin? not that too many cared, I suppose
[07:09] <amphi> anjin_: if you want bsd, you know where to find it ;)
[07:10] <anjin_> amphi : Yeah, but BSD doesn't run Adobe appz :)
[07:10] <leojstewart> On my boot screen, where I select different Operating Systems, it lists two different versions of the Linux Kernel.  Does anyone know how I can delete the older Linux Kernel?
[07:10] <Hikyuu> amphi could you direct me towards someone that doesn know about ndiswrappers ^^?
[07:10] <alexcamilo> anjin_: i'm watin for the macbooks or minis to be used and cheeper. like in a few years.
[07:10] <BrandonBL79> Can anyone help me with a 'Grub' problem, and uninstalling?
[07:10] <amphi> Hikyuu: no, sorry
[07:10] <slackern> leojstewart: you could run synaptic and search for linux-image and remove the old one there
[07:10] <nivek_> amphi, I just have the folder mplayer-386
[07:10] <Hikyuu> ok thanks for your time
[07:10] <amphi> Hikyuu: you must just appeal to the channel
[07:10] <dibblego> I have two Ubuntu machines - I want to see the files of one from another - is this what samba does?
[07:10] <Hikyuu> lol
[07:11] <Hikyuu> yeah I figured
[07:11] <amphi> nivek_: did you install the mplayer-doc package?
[07:11] <nivek_> amphi, I dont think
[07:11] <alexcamilo> anjin_: maybe we should stop talking bout off topic stuff. b4 the chan opps cyber stab us
[07:11] <anjin_> alexcamilo, cheaper is good. :)  It's just too bad you can't really open a Mac up and put your own hardware in.  Those Minis don't have enough balls for me :)
[07:11] <anjin_> alexcamilo, Oh yeah.. sorry :)
[07:11] <amphi> nivek_: why not, when I told you to, twice?
[07:11] <nivek_> amphi, sorry but I'm noob
[07:11] <BrandonBL79> I'm trying to re-format my second hard drive as a fat32, and delete the grub from primary hard drive?  Having difficulty?  Any ideas or documentation?
[07:11] <alexcamilo> anjin_: i;m in the offtopic chan
[07:12] <amphi> nivek_: what does that have to do with not install mplayer-doc ?
[07:12] <anjin_> I oughta take off anyway... I have a lot to play with on this new install :)
[07:12] <anjin_> later
[07:12] <nivek_> amphi, relax dude
[07:12] <BrandonBL79> !grub
[07:12] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:13] <slackern> nivek_: 'sudo apt-get install mplayer-doc' then you can open file:///usr/share/doc/mplayer-doc/HTML/en/menc-feat-mpeg.html in firefox.
[07:14] <nivek_> slackern, ok thx
[07:14] <leojstewart> slackern: thank you :)
[07:14] <slackern> leojstewart: ahh you found it? just make sure you don't remove the one you are running right now .)
[07:15] <slackern> leojstewart: so your left with a system without a kernel-image :p
[07:15] <BrandonBL79> anyone can help with a 'Grub' problem?
[07:15] <bisquit> BrandonBL79: What kind of 'Grub' Problem?
[07:15] <slackern> leojstewart: it's usually a good idea to keep an older kernel a little while before removing it in case of problems
[07:15] <nivek_> amphi, I have read but the command mencoder doesn't exist...
[07:16] <slackern> nivek_: which processor do you use?
[07:16] <nivek_> slackern, 2.4 ghz
[07:16] <slackern> pentium 4 or amd?
[07:16] <BrandonBL79> !PARTITION
[07:16] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BrandonBL79
[07:16] <BrandonBL79> !partitions
[07:16] <ubotu> Go to System -> Administration -> Disks and enter your password. Pick the disk your partition is on from the list, then click the 'Partitions' tab. Select the partition you want to mount, set an access path (mount point) and click 'Enable'.
[07:16] <nivek_> slackern, pentium 4 yah
[07:17] <BrandonBL79> !update partition
[07:17] <ubotu> BrandonBL79: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:17] <slackern> nivek_: ok do 'sudo apt-get install mencoder-686' that will install it then.
[07:17] <nivek_> slackern, wait me plz
[07:18] <nomin> does anyone in here have mythtv installed and running?
[07:18] <nivek_> slackern, not found but mencoder-586 exist and mencoder-k6 and mencoder-custom
[07:18] <slackern> nivek_: Im totally new to this also, never used it before :p
[07:18] <slackern> ahh 586 will work also then
[07:18] <slackern> nivek_: you could use that instead, im using dapper so it might be a little different.
[07:18] <nivek_> slackern, ok and after, what I do ?
[07:18] <leojstewart> slackern: Removed the correct one, and I've had no problems with the one I'm using now.  :)  Thanks for the help.
[07:19] <mythica> howcome I cant mount //hostname/
[07:19] <BrandonBL79> !UNINSTALL
[07:19] <ubotu> BrandonBL79: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:19] <nivek_> slackern, do u know the command for .avi to .mpeg ?
[07:19] <slackern> nivek_: open firefox and go to file:///usr/share/doc/mplayer-doc/HTML/en/menc-feat-mpeg.html
[07:19] <BrandonBL79> !INSTALLATION
[07:19] <ubotu> BrandonBL79: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:19] <mythica> but i cant mount /hostname/share/
[07:19] <leojstewart> How can I easily update my OpenOffice2 to the latest version/
[07:19] <leojstewart> ?
[07:19] <Madpilot> BrandonBL79, you'll probably be better off if you just ask a question, and stop poking the bot at random...
[07:19] <nomin> I'm trying to get mythtv running on ubuntu.  I hope someone in here can help me out.
[07:20] <slackern> there is examples on how to make a avi to mpg file, i tried the bottom example on a small 68 mb .avi file
[07:20] <mythica> can*
[07:20] <nivek_> slackern, Could not open codec.
[07:20] <nivek_> FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver.
[07:21] <slackern> nivek_: when you did what?
[07:21] <nomin> no mythtv users in here?
[07:21] <nivek_> slackern, I have this error when I'm typping the command of the page you tell me
[07:22] <slackern> nivek_: theres quite alot of differences between dapper and breezy so you might have to install codecs and things in breezy
[07:22] <nivek_> slackern, File not found: 'frameno.avi'
[07:22] <nivek_> Failed to open frameno.avi
[07:22] <nivek_> File not found: 'other_options'
[07:22] <nivek_> Failed to open other_options
[07:22] <nivek_> Cannot open file/device.
[07:22] <slackern> !restrictedformats
[07:22] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:22] <amphi> nivek_: you might need to install w32codecs and some libs, like libavcodec, libavformat, ffmpeg, etc
[07:23] <slackern> i'll let someone take over that know which is the best way to do that on  breezy since i run dapper here.
[07:25] <squiggly_> fefe
[07:25] <leojstewart> Can someone tell me the best way to update my OpenOffice2 to the latest version, please?
[07:26] <khan> leojstewart: if it's not an emergency, wait a week for dapper, i think it has a newer version...
[07:27] <Wizz_Kidd> i need to add more respotitories to my synaptic
[07:27] <khan> leojstewart: you could always try source-o-matic repos for openoffice2
[07:27] <khan> Wizz_Kidd: and??
[07:27] <khan> Wizz_Kidd: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:28] <Wizz_Kidd> what do i add to it
[07:28] <leojstewart> khan: as I'm very new to linux, I'd rather not try a BETA just yet...
[07:29] <khan> leojstewart: check your pm's
[07:29] <khan> Wizz_Kidd: try source-o-matic for ubuntu (search for it on google)
[07:29] <Wizz_Kidd> source 0 matic
[07:30] <khan> Wizz_Kidd: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:32] <nickrud> leojstewart, actually the latest beta is much better than the last stable, go figure :)
[07:34] <DBO> nickrud, yes but they "im new I better stick with stable" mentallity is very healthy for this chat room =)
[07:35] <nickrud> I do like the whole stable thing overall, DBO though. It's why I'm here
[07:36] <sflash> Hi, i just installed the new ubuntu release on one of my computers, and after it reboot after modules installed, i get a black screen
[07:36] <DBO> i know you do nickrud, I just was pointing out in 20 days we would be kicking ourselves if we got all the newbies hooked on beta
[07:36] <sflash> and it gets stuck with cursor on the left corner
[07:36] <DBO> sflash, does CTRL + ALT + F1 bring up a prompt?
[07:36] <cursive-> grr setting up wireless is not fun
[07:36] <nickrud> DBO, heh. I'm jumping the gun :) Point taken
[07:37] <sflash> im not sure, let me bring my laptop over to it
[07:37] <DBO> cursive-, yeah, its probably complaint #2 around here
[07:37] <sflash> ctrl alt f1 does nothing
[07:37] <nickrud> number 1, and I have no wireless, so I get to ignore :)
[07:38] <DBO> nickrud, more than xorg?
[07:38] <nickrud> yes.
[07:38] <sflash> what happens is when i start the computer, it shows the ubuntu logo and loads a bunch of stuff underneath it, then the video mode goes into txt mode
[07:38] <sflash> and the cursor on the top left, and it crashs there
[07:38] <DBO> sflash, yeah thats no good... are you running dapper or breezy?
[07:38] <nickrud> wireless more than anything else in the last year
[07:38] <sflash> no idea, i just downloaded the ISO from ubuntu website
[07:39] <sflash> from the x86 release
[07:39] <DBO> breezy
[07:39] <DBO> sflash, ok, do you have a live cd?
[07:39] <sflash> no i dont
[07:39] <sflash> i can download it though
[07:39] <DBO> please do
[07:39] <sflash> i was gonna try the Kubuntu, i think i like that gui better
[07:39] <DBO> something went horribly wrong for you
[07:39] <sflash> but i will grab the live cd too
[07:40] <DBO> you can change over to kubuntu from a normal ubuntu install, no need to download a kubuntu disk
[07:40] <sflash> yeah, one thing is, i do have two video cards, a onboard intel video and a pci video card voodoo 3
[07:40] <sflash> ok
[07:40] <nickrud> voodoo3, ohhhh
[07:40] <DBO> sflash, what one are you using?
[07:41] <DBO> nickrud, known problems with V3?
[07:41] <sflash> i think its the voodoo 3 pci
[07:41] <nickrud> DBO, I used a voodoo3 for many years, and there are many issues
[07:41] <nickrud> sflash, what intel onboard do you have?
[07:42] <sflash> i couldnt tell you, i know that it stinks :)
[07:42] <nickrud> heh
[07:42] <sflash> its a pentium 2 celeron
[07:42] <sflash> a sony
[07:42] <nickrud> that's ok, I'm no prude
[07:42] <DBO> sflash, thats ok, the voodoo 3 stinks just as much for 2d work anyhow
[07:42] <sflash> maybe i should pull the card out
[07:43] <sflash> use the onboard video card, im just using it as a media server
[07:43] <DBO> sflash, can you try putting the monitor into the integrated video port and see what you get
[07:43] <DBO> nickrud, I had 2 Voodoo 2's in SLI for gaming back in the day =)
[07:43] <sflash> when i put the monitor in that slot, nothing shows on the monitor, i think the voodoo card takes over
[07:43] <nickrud> sflash, you're probably right, pull the voodoo ;(
[07:44] <sflash> ok, i will give that  a shot first
[07:44] <DBO> sflash, make sure onboard video is enabled in BIOS first!
[07:44] <sflash> ok
[07:44] <sflash> ill try it now, let you guys know in a sec
[07:45] <nickrud> DBO, if you're voodoo knowledgeable, please critique the voodoo page in the wiki
[07:45] <DBO> nickrud, never ran voodoo's in linux...
[07:46] <nickrud> heh. No one will take it on ...
[07:46] <DBO> nickrud, remember the fabled voodoo 6 5000?  *drools*
[07:46] <sflash> it was set up to run the voodoo cards bios first
[07:46] <sflash> i just changed that, gave it a restart now
[07:46] <nickrud> fabled, yes. I read the specs :)
[07:47] <nickrud> not my first brush with vapor ware, not nearly
[07:48] <tapox> How often are packages in Dapper upgraded? Is there a set schedule?
[07:48] <DBO> ah vapor ware... Windows 95... Windows 98... Windows ME... Windows 2000... XP... and soon to be Vista
[07:48] <sflash> it works now, i actually had another machine running ubuntu a while ago with a voodoo 3 card and it worked fine, but it was AGP
[07:48] <DBO> tapox, all the time really, no schedule though
[07:49] <tapox> DBO: Ahh, thanks. I just wanted to know if I should just upgrade on a weekly basis or something more sane.
[07:49] <Hobbsee> tapox: after release?  they're not, unless there's security updates, or major updates needed so an app will function
[07:49] <googler> is it a the time to upgrade to Dapper or i should wait till it officially released?
[07:49] <tapox> sflash: How did you get the 3DFx card working?
[07:49] <tapox> Hobbsee: No, during beta.
[07:50] <Hobbsee> tapox: less upgrades now..
[07:50] <sflash> fairies and pixie dust :)
[07:50] <DBO> googler, wait please
[07:50] <tapox> googler: Don't use it on an absolutely vital system. But aside from that, I'd need to say it beats the pants off of Breezy.
[07:50] <sflash> no im joking
[07:50] <sflash> it worked on first install, but it was in a terrible video mode
[07:51] <sflash> i think i found a linux driver or something and got it to work
[07:51] <googler> thanx DBO, tapox
[07:51] <tapox> sflash: I tried pixie dust, prayer, holy water, exorcism, voodoo, and barry white music and it wouldn't work.
[07:51] <DBO> tapox, sounds like my dating life
[07:51] <tapox> sflash: Ohhh, you're not talking about hardware acceleration. Nevermind.
[07:52] <sflash> oh yeah, didnt bother trying that
[07:52] <tapox> DBO: I take it the exorcism didn't go well with her?
[07:52] <FliesLikeABrick> if I want to make an icon on the desktop to do the equivalent of the command "sudo umount /mnt/ipod" how would I be able to do that such that they'd be prompted to enter their password?
[07:52] <DBO> tapox, my girlfriend didnt mind... it was that I was trying it on a different girl that bugged her
[07:52] <sflash> is there any good GUI you guys recommend, i like the Kubuntu one. but is there any other really good ones out there?
[07:52] <tapox> FliesLikeABrick: gksu is the command you're looking for.
[07:52] <FliesLikeABrick> thanks tapox
[07:53] <slackern> tapox: haha, darn sounds like something is really wrong :P
[07:53] <slackern> tapox: thought barry white would fix it easily :p
[07:53] <sflash> im going to be using it as a media server to hold music and uh hum... share stuff
[07:53] <DBO> sflash, some people really like fluxbox for simple low memory stuff
[07:54] <DBO> sflash, considering your system specs, you may wish to check out XFCE
[07:54] <luke> hello?
[07:54] <DBO> hello
[07:54] <sflash> ok
[07:54] <luke> will running a proxy on my machine make my browsing faster?
[07:54] <tapox> luke: no.
[07:54] <sflash> is it hard to install GUIs?
[07:54] <DBO> one command
[07:54] <sflash> or is there a manager on it
[07:54] <sflash> ok
[07:55] <luke> tapox, doesnt it cache sites or something?
[07:55] <slackern> luke: if you are on dialup or something it might speed things up caching images and such if you use a caching proxy
[07:55] <DBO> luke, a caching proxy like squid could theoretically improve very slow connections...
[07:55] <amphi> luke: not much faster than using a text-mode browser ;)
[07:55] <tapox> luke: Yeah, but there's basically no advantage over your browser's built in cache. Certain proxies, called web accelerators will do the trick by clever routing and image compression, but they're mostly for Windows.
[07:56] <luke> thanks guys
[07:56] <amphi> luke: dnsmasq helps a bit
[07:56] <amphi> luke: speeds up dns lookups
[07:56] <sflash> i went for a couple interviews over at a real cool company that was all linux
[07:56] <tapox> luke: I suggest installing a Firefox extension called 'Fasterfox' if you're running FF.
[07:56] <sflash> didnt get the job but now im going to try to get super into it
[07:57] <tapox> I'd like to get a job as a superhero
[07:57] <sflash> all linux, PHP, mysql
[07:57] <sflash> 300 employees
[07:57] <luke> tapox: dling it now
[07:57] <tapox> but something or one has to bite me, or I need to get zapped by something first.
[07:57] <sflash> its nice to see stuff like that out there
[07:58] <tapox> luke: Are you under broadband or dialup?
[07:59] <luke> tapox: broadband
[07:59] <tapox> luke: okay, then the defaults will work just fine.
[08:02] <tapox> goodnight all
[08:11] <caleb> hello all
[08:11] <HunterZ> hi
[08:12] <caleb> What's up?
[08:12] <linux_galore> dont install fasterfox is breaks things on both sides, so much so some server block it
[08:12] <DBO> fasterfox has a user friendly mode
[08:12] <DBO> erm, server friendly I mean
[08:13] <linux_galore> yeah but the servers just ignore it now so its a total wast if time
[08:13] <linux_galore> of*
[08:13] <caleb> I'm having trouble getting Thunderbird to retrieve messages from Gmail. It won't connect to the server at all.
[08:13] <luke> i wasnt recieving any noticable benefit so i just disabled it
[08:13] <linux_galore> in fact my tests show its slower now than not having it active
[08:14] <alexcamilo> fixed my problem. damm clock was set to 1904
[08:14] <alexcamilo> gnome wouldnt start
[08:14] <DBO> alexcamilo, mmmm sounds like dead CMOS battery
[08:15] <linux_galore> lol
[08:15] <slackern> alexcamilo: hehe thats when windows wrapped the world in time capsule, you just broke out of it :p
[08:15] <alexcamilo> mmm the perils of digging an old comp out of the closit
[08:15] <alexcamilo> closet*
[08:16] <linux_galore> alexcamilo: im my dad we didnt have these fancy fangled computers we had to use finger in my day, the smart kids were the ones with 11 fingers
[08:16] <linux_galore> s/dad/day/
[08:16] <alexcamilo> lol
[08:16] <DBO> in my day we didnt have fingers
[08:16] <DBO> we had toes, two two toes and a nose
[08:16] <alexcamilo> i did everything. xorg conf. reinstall
[08:16] <alexcamilo> twice
[08:16] <DBO> and we had to share the nose!
[08:16] <alexcamilo> lol
[08:16] <Madpilot> Monty Python re-enactments can go to #ubuntu-offtopic, I think...
[08:16] <DBO> s/two two/two
[08:16] <sflash> so i got it to boot and install, edubuntu loads instead of ubuntu
[08:17] <sflash> but i installed this iso ubuntu-5.10-install-i386
[08:17] <DBO> sorry Madpilot, I just... had to do it
[08:17] <DBO> sflash, thats no worry, edubuntu is mostly just an art pack
 it was the fashion in those days to wear a dead penguin in your belt </voice>
[08:17] <sflash> ok
[08:18] <alexcamilo> can i use apt get to install it on ppc?
[08:18] <Madpilot> DBO, further pythonisms will have a large wooden rabbit thrown at them, forcing you to run away!
[08:18] <sflash> ok, im gonna give xfce a try now
[08:18] <scabootssca> hey how do i install a .deb package?
[08:18] <alexcamilo> sorry. can i use apt-get to install edububtu software on a ppc running ubuntu 5.10
[08:18] <Hobbsee> !tell scabootssca about deb
[08:18] <DBO> sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop <--- alexcamilo
[08:19] <nomin> is there a program besides mythtv that can record from a tv card?
[08:19] <linux_galore> sflash: stand 5 feet from the computer when you do it, that way the bright flash wont hurt your eyes, then again the massive heat wave will do some damage
[08:19] <purrdeta> is anyone here?
[08:19] <DBO> just us mice
[08:19] <purrdeta> lol
[08:19] <linux_galore> DBO: want to swap some cheese
[08:20] <amphi> purrdeta: no
[08:20] <DBO> linux_galore, we are going to get kicked if we keep the OT up...
[08:20] <linux_galore> there all out
[08:20] <linux_galore> and no one has asked anything
[08:21] <alexcamilo> cool
[08:21] <linux_galore> had a great idea on a revenue stream for Ubuntu
[08:21] <alexcamilo> thnx
[08:22] <DBO> linux_galore, #ubuntu-offtopic for the get rich quick schemes
[08:22] <linux_galore> I got the idea from the games industry
[08:22] <linux_galore> Im trying to figure out a way to give people legal codecs
[08:22] <linux_galore> but for free
[08:23] <linux_galore> and I saw this thing on Massive on how they raise revenue on in game advertising
[08:23] <linux_galore> the company just sold to M$ for $400 mil
[08:24] <linux_galore> why cant ubuntu advertise in the download manager so people can pay for the codecs by reading adverts as they download
[08:24] <Pimpshizzled> morning folks
[08:25] <amphi> linux_galore: drive everyone to apt-get, huh? ;)
[08:25] <linux_galore> amphi: they can use apt-get but the restricted legal codecs cant be downloaded unless you use the graphical package manager
[08:25] <amphi> linux_galore: pfft
[08:25] <DBO> linux_galore, that would be mighty hard to force on users...
[08:26] <linux_galore> amphi: yes but it makes this all legal
[08:26] <linux_galore> not if they get it all for free
[08:26] <amphi> linux_galore: I'm ok with it as it is
[08:26] <linux_galore> its like Free to air TV
[08:26] <Madpilot> adware is not "free"
[08:26] <DBO> seconded
[08:26] <linux_galore> Madpilot: neither are the codecs this is a compromise
[08:27] <linux_galore> well so its Ok were all breaking the law ??
[08:27] <DBO> linux_galore, tux makes no compromises, tux assimilates all until there are no more to be assimilated
[08:27] <kroiz> does the livecd for dapper has an install option?
[08:27] <Wizz_Kidd> can someone pastebin thier sources.list thing
[08:27] <linux_galore> kroiz: yes
[08:27] <Wizz_Kidd> i dont have access to to many files
[08:28] <linux_galore> Wizz_Kidd: use sudo
[08:28] <Wizz_Kidd> and what will that do
[08:28] <DBO> give you root privs
[08:28] <kroiz> thanx
[08:28] <Pimpshizzled> hey folks, does anybody know of a iso mounting program i can get for ubuntu?
[08:28] <linux_galore> Wizz_Kidd: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:28] <Wizz_Kidd> i meant access like not to much stuff in my repository
[08:28] <Wizz_Kidd> i know but what stuff do i add?
[08:28] <jojoman02> Wizz_Kidd: look at my PM
[08:28] <mikeb> Wizz_Kidd, give you access to the files you don't have access to ... der :P
[08:29] <I_Love_DRM> What a long hard day trying to take some space off a ntfs partition and give it to ubuntu - what a nightmare
[08:29] <linux_galore> I_Love_DRM: ntfs whats that
[08:29] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, ironic name to be in a linux chat room...
[08:29] <linux_galore> I_Love_DRM: :-P
[08:30] <amphi> linux_galore: can't say it bothers me much; it's only in the US it's illegal AFAIK
[08:30] <linux_galore> amphi: no mp3 is globally licenses so is decss
[08:30] <linux_galore> licensed*
[08:31] <amphi> linux_galore: the license may well not be enforceable in other jurisdictions
[08:31] <linux_galore> amphi: take the flash problem we have right now, bed adobe would give us the newest version in a flash if it was a revenue stream
[08:31] <linux_galore> bet*
[08:31] <amphi> linux_galore: AFAIK fraunhofer doesn't object to sw decoders, and encoders in source form can't be suppressed
[08:32] <amphi> linux_galore: I care not for flash
[08:32] <CokeNCode> good morning everyone, i just deleted a 6 gig file, using nautilus, but yet, nautilus is telling me i only have 2.4 gigs free, can anyone help me out ?
[08:32] <amphi> linux_galore: as for mp3, we have ogg vorbis
[08:32] <Dave|id> is there like a pci video card channel for debian / linux
[08:32] <linux_galore> amphi: many of the sites that young people use to communicate now use flash
[08:32] <amphi> linux_galore: too bad
[08:32] <linux_galore> amphi: thats avoiding the problem
[08:32] <slackern> CokeNCode: empty trashcan
[08:32] <amphi> it's not a problem for me
[08:33] <CokeNCode> slackern, now that you mention that, i don't see the trashcan on my desktop
[08:33] <linux_galore> amphi: yes and were all on this planet to serve you, pfft
[08:33] <CokeNCode> is there another way to access it ?
[08:33] <slackern> CokeNCode: check bottom bar on the right side.
[08:33] <amphi> linux_galore: if they care about freedom, they can use something else; if they don't, there are various commercial OSes with the support they want
[08:33] <I_Love_DRM> can someone tell me if downloading the gparted live cd is the right way to go to take a few gigs off my NTFS - ubuntu did something to my partitions and now partition magic fails to start saying the cylinders are wrong arghhh I tryed gparted in Ubuntu but it cant modify the NTFS as its in use when its not even mounted :(
[08:33] <linux_galore> amphi: they dont care, 80% of people dont care if a car has freedom attached to it they just want it to work
[08:34] <linux_galore> amphi: same with software
[08:34] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, no, you need to get something that can handle NTFS proper... which usually means Partition Magic
[08:34] <CokeNCode> oh great ... thanks :$
[08:34] <amphi> linux_galore: so let them use something else; for me, free sw is about, er, freedom
[08:34] <slackern> CokeNCode: no worries
[08:34] <linux_galore> amphi: if Linux becomes a revenue stream it makes companies dependent on Linux, when that happens we have control, right now we have nothing and we offer nothing
[08:35] <I_Love_DRM> Partition magic wont work anymore - after installing ubuntu it says "partition table error 108 found"
[08:35] <DBO> guys, this convo does need to go to offtopic
[08:35] <amphi> DBO: point taken
[08:35] <I_Love_DRM> Partition does not end on cylinder boundary
[08:35] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, hrm... no idea =(
[08:36] <linux_galore> I_Love_DRM: I use the Mandriva live CD to partition hardisks, it has a great partitioning tool called diskdrake (why can Ubuntu use it its GPL and Gnome based)
[08:36] <linux_galore> s/can/cant/
[08:36] <CokeNCode> linux_galore, since when was linux about controlling anything ? I thought it was about choice and freedom, and souce code!
[08:36] <DBO> linux_galore, does that handle NTFS resizing?
[08:36] <linux_galore> DBO: yes
[08:36] <DBO> CokeNCode, that discussion has been moved to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:37] <CokeNCode> oh oops
[08:37] <amphi> I_Love_DRM: can you boot windows? if you can, then run windows fsck on the partition; I resized an ntfs partition with parted before with no problems (to my amazement)
[08:37] <DBO> amphi, I believe parted will drop any data that is at the end of the partition thats being resized (if any is there)
[08:37] <CokeNCode> i'm on a roll tonight ...
[08:37] <amphi> I_Love_DRM: if you run windows fsck (whatever it's called), parted should be happu
[08:37] <linux_galore> DBO: diskdrake is one of the best OO partitioning tools Ive seen, does "all" the Unix stuff and even the apple ones too
[08:38] <amphi> DBO: yeah, you have to compact the data to the beginning of the disk
[08:38] <I_Love_DRM> Ok ill try this tomorrow - I've stopped after 5 hours of trying because the laptops power unit blew up
[08:38] <linux_galore> DBO: and its 100% gpl
[08:38] <amphi> I_Love_DRM: heh
[08:38] <I_Love_DRM> So I thought I would get prepped with some ideas for tomorrow when I can get another adaptor
[08:39] <DBO> linux_galore, I dont see how it can be gpl and handle NTFS resizing (reliably) without captive NTFS...
[08:39] <suppaman> hello
[08:39] <linux_galore> DBO: doesnt use captive
[08:39] <DBO> captive NTFS of course means no NTFS resizing
[08:39] <DBO> erm, no GPL...
[08:39] <I_Love_DRM> I installed ntfstools first and it moved all data to start of the NTFS partition
[08:39] <DBO> dont ask me where my brain went...
[08:40] <DBO> linux_galore, without captive it is essentially trunkating the partition...
[08:40] <linux_galore> DBO: there are "legal" libs for resizing NTFS, there is even a Linux plugin made by the guys who created Partition magic to read and write to NTFS from Linux
[08:40] <amphi> DBO: I think it does it quite brutally - you have to run windows fsck afterwards, and it seems to figure out what happened, AFAIK
[08:40] <I_Love_DRM> If ubuntu can turn my laptop screen brightness down to save power and work with my atmel 802.11b I would use that standalone
[08:40] <DBO> amphi, its windows checkdisk, but yes =P
[08:41] <amphi> I_Love_DRM: that info you might find at linux-laptop.net or tuxmobil.org
[08:41] <I_Love_DRM> ok ill go have a look thanks
[08:41] <amphi> DBO: yeah, checkdisk
[08:43] <linux_galore> legally read/write to NTFS -> http://www.ntfs-linux.com/home/personal/faqs.htm
[08:43] <Dave|id> is there a console stream program for cameras
[08:43] <Dave|id> i use vgrabbj to capture images
[08:43] <DBO> linux_galore, thats not free
[08:43] <Dave|id> but i want a program to capture the stream and relay it to a websote
[08:44] <linux_galore> amphi: no I work in sales and engineering, legal issues are normal
[08:44] <amphi> linux_galore: in .us?
[08:44] <linux_galore> DBO: I know but Im showing it can be done legally
[08:44] <DBO> linux_galore, captive NTFS is legal so long as the user supplies the ntfs driver...
[08:44] <linux_galore> amphi: companies dont want to skirt around legal issues
[08:45] <linux_galore> DBO: actually its not legal
[08:45] <amphi> linux_galore: sure
[08:45] <DBO> linux_galore, transplanting the ntfs driver out of my windows drive is legal...
[08:45] <I_Love_DRM> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" - Is that just the name of ubuntu ? no different from the CD i was sent?
[08:45] <linux_galore> DBO: assisting anyone to infringe copyright is actually illegal
[08:45] <DBO> linux_galore, if you want to continue this topic, #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:46] <linux_galore> lol then dont make a statement you cant back up
[08:46] <amphi> linux_galore: that's why it's better to avoid proprietary junk
[08:46] <DBO> linux_galore, Im PERFECTLY willing to continue this in the offtopic channel
[08:46] <linux_galore> amphi: I do were I work is 100% proprietry free but I still have to know when Im free and legally so
[08:47] <I_Love_DRM> Now look what i've done - I shouldn't have come in here and said the N word :(
[08:48] <noiesmo> I have 2 harddrives and 2 linux installs have reinstalled now and then cant remember which install controls grub and want to only have one install on system, if i remove the partition with the grub info then I wont be able to reboot, how can i verify if its safe to remove other partitions and resize without loosing the grub mbr referances
[08:50] <defcon8> <--- ##linux
[08:50] <amphi> yeah, tardstrike
[08:50] <defcon8> rofl
[08:52] <sflash> i knew id run into some more problems and need your help
[08:53] <vmadmin> hey folks
[08:54] <green__> hello
[08:55] <vmadmin> wonder if this apt-get like lokks correct apt-get install loop-aes-utils module-assistant install loop-aes     looks a bit funny?
[08:55] <arunagirinathar> Hi all :)
[08:55] <green__> im new as of today to ubuntu and havent figured out much
[08:56] <vmadmin> lots of folks just joining?
[08:56] <arunagirinathar> ok - are MP3 and other propreitary codes available on APT ?
[08:56] <I_Love_DRM> im new as of this week :)
[08:56] <amphi> vmadmin: remove the second 'install' ;)
[08:57] <kyath> anyone know how i can install active x for wine
[08:57] <kameron> any sort of video editing software anyone would reccomend? i just want to chop off 20 minutes of video on either end of an avi.
[08:57] <vmadmin> amphi: thanks should that be a seperate command  it looks fromthe howto that its all on one line?
[08:58] <arunagirinathar> kameron, kino ?
[08:58] <jojoman02> arunagirinathar: they are if you enable multiverse and universe repos
[08:58] <bluefoxicy> Heads up people
[08:58] <bluefoxicy> Freenode has been compromised
[08:58] <kameron> arunagirinathar: thanks.
[08:58] <jojoman02> green__: i pm'ed you
[08:59] <bluefoxicy> Some dumbass is using ircop privileges to harass #wikipedia
[08:59] <jojoman02> green__: please respond
[08:59] <amphi> vmadmin: "apt-get install loop-aes-utils module-assistant loop-aes"
[08:59] <Hobbsee> bluefoxicy: tell them in #freenode
[08:59] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell arunagirinathar about mp3
[08:59] <bluefoxicy> If something weird starts happening, don't panic, it's just a retard.
[08:59] <kakashi> hi there! yesterday i already tried to solve a problem with my x-windows, because after loggin i only get a screen full of coloured stripes and no xwindows i even cant switch to textmode so could anyone help me?
[08:59] <bluefoxicy> Hobbsee:  they know already.
[08:59] <Hobbsee> ah okay
[08:59] <amphi> vmadmin: but 'loop-aes' should be 'loop-aes-source' I think
[08:59] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy, there are several ops active right now here...
[08:59] <amphi> bluefoxicy: ##linux just got hammered
[08:59] <bluefoxicy> ouch.
[09:00] <bluefoxicy> uh.
[09:00] <bluefoxicy> whew.
[09:00] <rajeev> can any one help me to get sound on my system
[09:00] <vmadmin> amphi : its here http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/03/13/1656228
[09:00] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy, was "reshxed" our idiot?
[09:00] <GTroy> I can't play any sound other than amarok, xmms, and system sounds
[09:00] <GTroy> anyone have any ideas what to do?
[09:01] <GTroy> crimsun, are you around?
[09:01] <Madpilot> !+sound
[09:01] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:01] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  one.  I don't know how many there are, and whoever it is found a security hole in freenode's setup so uh.  Don't expect this to get sorted out too quickly.
[09:01] <dli> GTroy, to debug, " cat /proc/asound/cards "
[09:01] <GTroy> dli thanks
[09:01] <arunagirinathar> Madpilot, thanks - I know MP3 is a totally @#$&#%&*& format (compring flac - well I am not the only one who listens to songs on this network ....
[09:01] <kakashi> can someone help me with my tiny little problem? after i start xwindows i only get back a striped screen ...
[09:01] <rafael_> server /irc-gate.com
[09:01] <rafael_> sorry
[09:02] <dli> GTroy, do you see your sound card in  " cat /proc/asound/cards "
[09:02] <ghora-> i have the same problem than kakashi
[09:02] <GTroy> yeah, my ice1724 chaintech av710
[09:02] <tobmoox> yay 4 ircd!
[09:02] <kakashi> ghora- so lets solve it
[09:02] <ghora-> after installation I installed xserver-xorg
[09:02] <ghora-> then gdm
[09:02] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  I'm still wondering what the hole was :)
[09:02] <ghora-> then I wantede to start startx
[09:02] <amphi> vmadmin: try this ;) http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/81
[09:03] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  but it's 3AM and I have to sleep, I guess I can try to pry full details out of them tomorrow.
[09:03] <ghora-> and came back a fatal server error
[09:03] <ghora-> the ubuntu suggested me to install x-window-system
[09:03] <ghora-> I tried
[09:03] <ghora-> but couldnt
[09:03] <kakashi> ghora- i just installed the system and did nothing .... and got back that screen ... sooo
[09:03] <crimsun> GTroy: hi
[09:03] <vmadmin> amphi: did you look at the url i posted?
[09:03] <ghora-> could any one help me?
[09:03] <amphi> vmadmin: yes
[09:03] <vmadmin> amphi: ok
[09:03] <amphi> vmadmin: did you look at the url I posted? ;)
[09:03] <jayrod06> hi guys
[09:04] <vmadmin> amphi; i will now
[09:04] <GTroy> hey crimsun, would you be able to figure out why I can't get audio from any source other than xmms, amarok, and  system sounds?
[09:04] <jayrod06> quick question about kernels
[09:04] <crimsun> GTroy: meaning multiple sounds at once?
[09:04] <kakashi> ghora- i was told that the /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or you may have XF86config-4) file even though it exists is not really in tact ...
[09:04] <jayrod06> i have an athlon non xp and i was wondering whether or not to use i686 or k7 kernel
[09:04] <GTroy> no, just a chaintech av710
[09:04] <amphi> ghora-: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:04] <crimsun> GTroy: no, sounds from multiple programs at once
[09:05] <GTroy> nah, that doesn't bother me
[09:05] <arunagirinathar> bye - got some B I G Downloads to do ....
[09:05] <kakashi> ampi- doesnt work
[09:05] <kyath> has anyone her got quake4 working on their ubuntu system
[09:05] <arunagirinathar> so long
[09:05] <kakashi> ampi- you get back an error message
[09:05] <jayrod06> anyone?
[09:05] <crimsun> GTroy: so /only/ xmms, amarok, and system sounds work? aplay doesn't work?
[09:05] <arunagirinathar> ............ t h a n k s ..............
[09:05] <amphi> kakashi: I do?
[09:05] <DBO> kyath, yeap, works wonderfully (so long as Im not in Xgl)
[09:05] <ghora-> amphi thx
[09:05] <jojoman02> jayrod06: use i686
[09:05] <GTroy> crimsun, flash, realplayer 10 doesn't play any sounds
[09:05] <rajeev> hello any one there i m not getting sound on my system its says No volume control elements and/or devices found... so plz any one suggest me what to do??
[09:05] <kakashi> ampi- telling xserver-xorg wasnt configured
[09:05] <vmadmin> amphi; ok thanks but what to do if i have followed the url  i sent you?
[09:05] <kyath> DBO: u using wine to play it?
[09:05] <DBO> kyath, native install
[09:06] <kakashi> amphi- i got the same problem as ghora-
[09:06] <crimsun> GTroy: flash applets/movie via firefox?
[09:06] <jayrod06> k7 has no advantage over i686?
[09:06] <GTroy> exactly crimsun
[09:06] <amphi> kakashi: that command is to configure it
[09:06] <crimsun> GTroy: what if you wrap it with ``aoss firefox''?
[09:06] <kyath> i was wondering if u can use wine to play it
[09:06] <kane77> what are the alternatives for gdesklets... because they seem to be killing my resources...
[09:06] <GTroy> crimsun what's that?
[09:06] <DBO> k7 supports 3dnow if you have a AMD processor jayrod06
[09:06] <dli> GTroy, do you see your card in " alsamixer " ?
[09:06] <amphi> vmadmin: dunno - you clearly had problems with it ;) try following the d-a one
[09:06] <crimsun> GTroy: you need to have alsa-oss from universe installed.
[09:07] <jayrod06> the synaptec description reads k7 for athlon, i686 for pentium 4
[09:07] <GTroy> I see my card in alsamixer
[09:07] <czr> i686 is for pentium pro actually
[09:07] <jayrod06> is k7 also optimized for anything i686 is optimized for?
[09:07] <GTroy> crimsun, i'll install it
[09:07] <kakashi> amphi: yeah i know ... but im trying since yesterday and this did not really work ...
[09:07] <crimsun> jayrod06: since k7 is 686-class, yes
[09:07] <fogos> hi... somebody have flash player 8 installed?
[09:07] <DBO> jayrod06, what proc do you have
[09:07] <czr> crimsun, actually you're wrong
[09:08] <jojoman02> fogos, no flash player 8 for linux afaik
[09:08] <rajeev>  hello any one there i m not getting sound on my system its says No volume control elements and/or devices found... so plz any one suggest me what to do??
[09:08] <jayrod06> AMD Athlon 1.3 ghz non xp
[09:08] <vmadmin> amphi  yes a litlle because apt-get source file does not let me install some packages i have to do dpkg -i
[09:08] <czr> enabling k7 optimizations make gcc select other schedulings for instructions, which are not as good on other processors as on ahtlon cores
[09:08] <DBO> jayrod06, yeah, get 686
[09:08] <amphi> kakashi: are you trying to use some non-free driver?
[09:08] <rajeev>  hello any one there i m not getting sound on my system its says No volume control elements and/or devices found... so plz any one suggest me what to do??
[09:08] <fogos> jojoman02, only we can do is wait by now?
[09:08] <DBO> jayrod06, k7 is for XP and 64 bit
[09:08] <czr> however, one wont notice any differences. just use i686
[09:08] <amphi> vmadmin: huh?
[09:08] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell rajeev about sound
[09:08] <dli> GTroy, okay, unmute, and increase volume for all in alsamixer
[09:08] <fogos> jojoman02, for the 8.5 release for linux
[09:08] <jayrod06> alright i686 it is then
[09:08] <kakashi> amphi: what do you mean with this ... im sorry my English is not the best ...
[09:09] <jayrod06> thanks guys
[09:09] <dli> GTroy, after that, " aplay /dev/urandom "
[09:09] <green__> im guessing im not here
[09:09] <jojoman02> fogos: what you need flash 8 for anyhow, most website are still using 7
[09:09] <jojoman02> green__: i'm gonna pm you
[09:09] <amphi> kakashi: a binary driver like nvidia or fglrx for ati, not an xorg driver
[09:09] <jayrod06> 8.5 isnt out yet is it?
[09:09] <jayrod06> maybe a beta
[09:09] <crimsun> czr: um, what are you talking about?
[09:09] <fogos> jojoman02, youtube, and for demos of www.salesforces.com
[09:09] <jojoman02> i saw a tutorial
[09:09] <czr> crimsun, about optimization settings for gcc more or less
[09:09] <jojoman02> you can use 7.5 with youtube
[09:09] <jojoman02> i am using it
[09:09] <vmadmin> amphi  ok I have got to the part i told you about at first how to proceed is it one line or two the apt-get line
[09:10] <jojoman02> want the binaries for breezy i can give it to you
[09:10] <czr> crimsun, about different microcore-schedulings
[09:10] <kakashi> amphi: i just installed the system
[09:10] <crimsun> czr: his question asked whether k7 is optimised for everything 686 is. Another way to read that question is "Do 686 optimisations work on k7?"
[09:10] <jojoman02> just extract to .mozilla/plugins/
[09:10] <amphi> kakashi: what vidoe card do you have?
[09:10] <kakashi> amphi: ATI 9200SE Radeon
[09:10] <linux_galore> isnt a K7 i586 not i686
[09:10] <czr> crimsun, could be :-). I understood it differently though :-)
[09:10] <fogos> jojoman02, im on dapper, but when i enter at youtube , display a old version flash player message
[09:11] <dli> linux_galore, k7 > i686
[09:11] <czr> k7 as an ISA is superset of i686 (gcc-wise)
[09:11] <kakashi> amphi: before this i had 9800PRo and it worked just fine
[09:11] <ghora-> amphi
[09:11] <DBO> linux_galore, K7 = 686 + 3DNow
[09:11] <ghora-> [09:08]  <ghora-> fatal server error again
[09:11] <ghora-> [09:08]  <ghora-> no screens found
[09:11] <jojoman02> i saw a tutorial for 8.5 in linux but uses wine and windows version of firefox / flash
[09:11] <amphi> kakashi: that should be fully supported by the xorg radeon driver
[09:11] <crimsun> czr: precisely, which is why all 686 optimisations are subsumed in k7.
[09:11] <czr> however that doesn't mean that optimizing for k7 will make the core run faster on i686. it will just make a difference on k7. on other microcores it might/will result in slower code
[09:11] <jojoman02> fogos: see if these files i'm about to send you work
[09:11] <jayrod06> in you guys' experience which ati driver is better, the ubuntu or ati.com driver
[09:11] <GTroy> crimsun I get major static
[09:11] <linux_galore> just I had a K7 machine at work years ago and I remember some issues with the i686 stuff so swapped the flag to i586
[09:11] <czr> crimsun, they're not. if you actually read the RTL-specs of gcc
[09:12] <crimsun> czr: no, the question of k7 optimisations running on 686 has nothing to do with his question.
[09:12] <trogg>  
[09:12] <trogg>  
[09:12] <trogg>  
[09:12] <trogg>  
[09:12] <trogg>  
[09:12] <scottt106> anyone here good with wireless NIC drivers?
[09:12] <trogg> LOL
[09:12] <trogg> ACSII
[09:12] <kakashi> amphi: i was told that the XF86config-4 file would be corrupt or something like this
[09:12] <DBO> jayrod06, the ati driver is the only one that supports 3D for you
[09:12] <Hobbsee> trogg: ?
[09:12] <trogg>  
[09:12] <trogg>  
[09:12] <trogg>  
[09:12] <trogg>  
[09:12] <trogg>  
[09:12] <amphi> kakashi: what driver are you using? use the xorg radeon driver
[09:12] <trogg>  
[09:12] <trogg>  
[09:12] <Viscid> I figured I'd find you in here, trogg.
[09:12] <trogg>  
[09:12] <DBO> ??
[09:12] <trogg>  
[09:12] <trogg>  
[09:12] <linux_galore> kick time
[09:12] <Hobbsee> grrr...too slow!
[09:12] <DBO> hehe
[09:12] <kane77> what are the alternatives for gdesklets... because they seem to be killing my resources...
[09:12] <foldingstock> lol
[09:12] <Innocuous> ?
[09:13] <jojoman02> fogos: i sent you the file
[09:13] <linux_galore> kane77: thats normal
[09:13] <amphi> Hobbsee: #linux still being trashed?
[09:13] <tobmoox> are they done attacking yet?
[09:13] <tobmoox> oop this ones getting attacked yay
[09:13] <Hobbsee> crimsun: i was getting there :P
[09:13] <fogos> jojoman02, yes thanks
[09:13] <vmadmin> amphi: ok its it all one line please as in apt-get install loop-aes-utils module-assistant install loop-aes if so i will pastebin what i get
[09:13] <kane77> amphi, so i was wondering if there was somethig "lighter"
[09:13] <scottt106> anyone here good with wireless NIC drivers?
[09:13] <amphi> kane77: ?
[09:13] <linux_galore> kane77: only other option is to find an app that does the job properly
[09:13] <amphi> scottt106: just ask your question
[09:13] <DBO> crimsun, Hobbsee, you guys do realize he has rejoined the channel already...
[09:13] <Hobbsee> amphi: got no idea
[09:14] <kakashi> amphi: i dont really know what driver i am using .. im new to ubuntu ... but i have to use the basic drivers and while the install my video card was recognised correctly
[09:14] <Hobbsee> DBO: yeah, he got quieted...
[09:14] <linux_galore> gdesklets == superkaramba on kde
[09:14] <DBO> Hobbsee, I see =)
[09:14] <kane77> amphi, but something not so resource needy...
[09:14] <amphi> kane77: I'm not sure what you're talking about
[09:14] <Hobbsee> DBO: that's what the % in front meant...
[09:14] <jojoman02> fogos: you gonna accept??
[09:14] <DBO> Hobbsee, ah...
[09:15] <scottt106> ok :)  i'm trying to install and configure the prism2 drivers for my usb wireless NIC.  i got it working following a tutorial, up until i restart or unplug the NIC, in which case I lose my connection, any ideas?
[09:15] <kane77> amphi, something that doesn't need so many resources...
[09:15] <jayrod06> dang, flash 8.5/9 isnt available for linux yet, not even first beta
[09:15] <crimsun> czr: anyhow, before that interruption, I'm referring more to the kernel
[09:15] <amphi> kane77: _what_ something>
[09:15] <amphi> ?
[09:15] <linux_galore> gdesklets and superkaramba both are resource hogs, one of the reasons I never use it
[09:15] <GTroy> crimsun, good job so far, I've got sound, but it's really really choppy
[09:15] <crimsun> GTroy: known issue, not much can be done about it.
[09:15] <amphi> kane77: a system monitor?
[09:15] <vmadmin> amphi: did you see my post?
[09:15] <kane77> amphi, i was talking about gdesklets
[09:15] <czr> crimsun, kernel is compiled by gcc :-). so it's an gcc-issue really :-)
[09:15] <jojoman02> +flash
[09:15] <amphi> kane77: gkrellm perhaps? torsmo?
[09:15] <linux_galore> kane77: use gkrellm
[09:15] <crimsun> czr: I'm referring to the inline asm
[09:15] <GTroy> crimsun, will new hardware fix this?
[09:16] <amphi> kane77: I only wanted a noun ;)
[09:16] <crimsun> GTroy: doubtful.
[09:16] <linux_galore> kane77: also gnome and kde have system monitor applets you can leave on your taskbar
[09:16] <kane77> linux_galore, amphi, thanx...
[09:16] <jayrod06> yeah, my question was, is there any reason to go from i686 to k7 on a non xp amd athlon
[09:16] <jayrod06> to clarify
[09:17] <GTroy> crimsun, how far away do you think a fix will be/
[09:17] <CokeNCode> hey, where can i find a winamp clone that allows me to listen to the streaming online radio stations ?
[09:17] <GTroy> ?
[09:17] <GTroy> sorry for all the questions crimsun
[09:17] <crimsun> GTroy: no idea
[09:17] <DBO> jayrod06, you are running a Thunderbird correct?
[09:17] <vmadmin> amphi: can we sort this out please is this one line apt-get install loop-aes-utils module-assistant install loop-aes
[09:17] <amphi> ghora-: you have the same video card as kakashi?
[09:17] <GTroy> thank you crimsun
[09:17] <linux_galore> CokeNCode: amarok does streaming  and theres also streamtuned  thats very simple
[09:17] <jayrod06> @DBO yep
[09:17] <amphi> vmadmin: I gave you a url with instructions that work
[09:18] <jayrod06> 3dnow is enabled
[09:18] <amphi> vmadmin: I know they work because I used that page to set up an encrypted loopback fs
[09:18] <DBO> jayrod06, I believe thunderbirds are k6-3's, but I could be all wrong here, and that XP's are k7, and 64's are k8...  which means you would want the 686 kernel
[09:18] <ghora-> amphi I dunno what kakashi has..
[09:18] <vmadmin> amphi: yes but if i start to follow that and i am in the middle of another i couls screw up badly!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:18] <CokeNCode> linux_galore, thanks
[09:18] <ghora-> I have ati radeon 9250..
[09:18] <scottt106> ok :)  i'm trying to install and configure the prism2 drivers for my usb wireless NIC.  i got it working following a tutorial, up until i restart or unplug the NIC, in which case I lose my connection.  any ideas, or is this better to ask in the forums?
[09:19] <amphi> vmadmin: but you aren't in the middle, you haven't installed the packages yet
[09:19] <CokeNCode> oh crap, amarok is for kde only
[09:19] <linux_galore> CokeNCode: streamtuned home page -> http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html
[09:19] <CokeNCode> since when do ppl make apps for one specific gui ?
[09:19] <linux_galore> CokeNCode: dont have to install kde just the libs to make it work
[09:19] <linux_galore> CokeNCode: always
[09:19] <CokeNCode> oh k ...
[09:20] <amphi> ghora-: that isn't mentioned in man radeon, but I'd try with either the 'ati' or 'radeon' driver
[09:20] <DBO> jayrod06, just did some googling, thunderbird was the k7... go ahead and get the k7 core
[09:20] <DBO> sorry about the confusion
[09:20] <vmadmin> amphi: no thats true so please tell me where to start the on the url you sent I can go from that point
[09:20] <linux_galore> CokeNCode: you need a widget set to make anything graphical, in this case amarok selected QT
[09:20] <rajeev>  on my ubuntu system sound is not coming its shows the error msg as Registry is not present or it is corrupted, please update it by running gst-register can any one tell me what to do???
[09:20] <jayrod06> according to wikipedia k7 is "Codename for a generation of AMD CPUs, including the Athlon, Athlon XP, Duron, and certain very early Semprons"
[09:20] <linux_galore> CokeNCode: gnome uses GTK
[09:20] <mikeb> i like a consistant theme throughout the interface
[09:20] <czr> crimsun, which one exactly?
[09:20] <czr> there's not that much left. especially outside the smp-stuff
[09:21] <amphi> vmadmin: what?
[09:21] <DBO> jayrod06, yeah, thats right... my mistake.  I was off by a number, get the k7 kernel =)
[09:21] <seren> part
[09:21] <czr> jayrod06, it the current kernel works for you, use it. right?
[09:21] <jayrod06> last question. you guys have been helpful, i wont lose any i686 optimizations going to k7 right?
[09:21] <czr> jayrod06, unless your sysload is over 5.0 constantly you won't notice any difference in running i686-versions versus k7-version
[09:21] <mikeb> is there like a program that gives a kde app your current gtk theme look?
[09:21] <DBO> jayrod06, no, k7 contains all the 686 optimizations
[09:21] <jayrod06> thanks guys
[09:21] <spikeb> mikeb yes, there are theme engines that do that
[09:22] <Madpilot> mikeb, there's qtconfig, which tries to do that - does an OK but not perfect job. Install qt3-qtconfig
[09:22] <jayrod06> and its not really so much about spped increase as always wanting newest/greatest/bleeding edge whatever i can get my hands on
[09:22] <vmadmin> amphi: where to start from on the url you send please I at a certain point in the other url i sent you . I cannot start from the begining!!!!!!!!
[09:22] <CokeNCode> ok, weird, so developers have to design with either gnome and kde in mind ... but i guess most software will still work on both right?
[09:22] <spikeb> they don't work very well
[09:22] <spikeb> CokeNCode: yeah
[09:22] <amphi> vmadmin: I've got to go, but that d-a page explains what you need to do
[09:22] <mikeb> :(
[09:22] <mikeb> ok, thanks, i'll check it out
[09:22] <linux_galore> mikeb think it the other way around, gnome apps in kde, use the kde default themes, dont know of anything that does that in reverse, also many of the gnome themes are also in kde
[09:22] <vmadmin> amphi; yes ok but it does not help me
[09:23] <spikeb> mikeb another idea is to find a theme that is available for both kde and gnome
[09:23] <spikeb> such as bluecurve
[09:23] <mikeb> ok, i might do that instead
[09:23] <mikeb> thanks
[09:23] <jayrod06> thanks alot for theh elp guys
[09:23] <jayrod06> ill stay and chat though
[09:24] <spikeb> bluecurve is one, industrial/qindustrial is another
[09:24] <rajeev>  on my ubuntu system sound is not coming its shows the error msg as Registry is not present or it is corrupted, please update it by running gst-register
[09:24] <kakashi> amphi: so i just tried again to: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but the message back was, that xserver-xorg is not installed and i tried via man: sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg and it did also not work so do you have any suggestions
[09:24] <linux_galore> on my kubuntu machine all the gnome apps use the kde theme, there is a plugin called  gtk-kde themer
[09:25] <linux_galore> so everything looks the same
[09:25] <spikeb> no, it just looks similar.
[09:25] <linux_galore> well the colours are the same icons are too because I use the same theme in both
[09:26] <linux_galore> also i use a file dialog app that makes gnome use konqueror's file selector
[09:27] <vmadmin> amphi: thanks for the page I will try to do it but I am new and although its pretty simple to follow i need to not make to many mistakes thanks for your help
[09:27] <jayrod06> i know this is an obviously dumb question on a linux irc, but would anyone know a general good amount of ram apple os x needs for optimal performance in basic use
[09:27] <sflash> i need to install extutils::PkgConfig for perl
[09:27] <disinterested_pe> ive got a question about ubuntu breezy badger
[09:27] <linux_galore> so i dont have this stupid problem were gnome and kde apps have different file dialog setups
[09:27] <sflash> how do you do that?
[09:27] <spikeb> linux_galore: now that sounds much like it
[09:27] <spikeb> much more like it, that is
[09:27] <crimsun> czr: minus the optimisations in streaming (lib/mmx.c)?
[09:27] <rajeev>  on my ubuntu system sound is not coming its shows the error msg as Registry is not present or it is corrupted, please update it by running gst-register
[09:28] <disinterested_pe> which gaim messenger do i download and how do u install it?
[09:28] <linux_galore> spikeb: kde only though
[09:28] <crimsun> disinterested_pe: Applications> Internet> Gaim?
[09:28] <spikeb> linux_galore: yeah, be nice if there was such a thing to make kde apps use the gtk file selector
[09:28] <DBO> jayrod06, my experience is anything less that 1GB will feel rather clunky (well actually I think OS X feels clunky all the time)
[09:28] <disinterested_pe> ok but it wont connect
[09:28] <linux_galore> when I open a file in Evolution running under kde it open the kde file dialog window not the Gnome one
[09:29] <spikeb> OSX is clunky
[09:29] <spikeb> that will probably go away in the next release, but apple's abominations to the HIG won't
[09:29] <linux_galore> spikeb: theres a slight lag though because it has to fool gnome that its not needed
[09:29] <vmadmin> amphi; the only diffrence is is that i have already installed the source you see your article is for debian as in sarge but mine is ubuntu specific
[09:30] <disinterested_pe> is that easy ubuntu helpfull?
[09:30] <DBO> disinterested_pe, for new users yes it is
[09:30] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: gaim should be installed already
[09:31] <disinterested_pe> well im about new as of today
[09:31] <rajeev>  on my ubuntu system sound is not coming its shows the error msg as Registry is not present or it is corrupted, please update it by running gst-register
[09:31] <jayrod06> so i should go with 2gb then i think
[09:31] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: gaim 2.0 has less features than the old version
[09:31] <disinterested_pe> it will not connect though any suggestions
[09:31] <DBO> jayrod06, you should get a real computer =)  but Im just bias...
[09:31] <jayrod06> well i need a laptop
[09:31] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: connect to what
[09:32] <jayrod06> and i dont feel linux (namely ubuntu) is ready for laptops yet
[09:32] <disinterested_pe> i keep getting a box that says connection failed
[09:32] <sflash> anyone know how to install pkgconfig ?
[09:32] <DBO> linux_galore, no, its lets you configure less of them, and beta3 brings back a lot of them as well as being generally less annoying
[09:32] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: connect to what gaim is multi protocol
[09:32] <disinterested_pe> h/o ill check it
[09:32] <jayrod06> and im worried that after i get an xp laptop that ubuntu wont support it well
[09:33] <jayrod06> and ill be stuck with xp
[09:33] <jayrod06> which would suck
[09:33] <linux_galore> DBO: tried 2.0 found it annoying and all my plugins have gone nuts
[09:33] <vmadmin> Is this line for apt-get all on ONE line or is it two lines?   apt-get install loop-aes-utils
[09:33] <vmadmin> module-assistant install loop-aes
[09:33] <disinterested_pe> it says authentication failed
[09:33] <DBO> jayrod06, check hardware compatibility before you buy =)
[09:33] <jayrod06> where
[09:33] <DBO> linux_galore, different strokes for different folks I suppose
[09:34] <DBO> !tell jayrod06 about hardware
[09:34] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: connect to what?? gaim doesnt connect to just one service it connects to a whole load of them
[09:34] <spikeb> there's also tuxmobil.org
[09:34] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: so what service are you trying to connect to
[09:34] <mmmiiikkkeee> :wq
[09:34] <mmmiiikkkeee> :q!
[09:34] <mmmiiikkkeee> exit
[09:34] <disinterested_pe> idk it says authentication failed
[09:34] <spikeb> mmmiiikkkeee: wrong window
[09:34] <lauri> Sou novato no linux. como fao pra instalar um programa pelo terminal
[09:34] <spikeb> heh
[09:34] <Verithrax> Is upgrading to beta Dapper worth it?
[09:35] <vmadmin> DBO: wnaan help?
[09:35] <DBO> Verithrax, wait for the final release unless you are very comfortable with linux
[09:35] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: what service are you trying to connect to gaim doest have a single connection setup
[09:35] <DBO> vmadmin, whats the issue?
[09:35] <spikeb> Verithrax: i'd wait
[09:35] <GTroy> DBO, I'm very comfortable with linux, but I'm waiting!!
[09:35] <sflash> im getting an error on installatn of a package. it says extutils::depends not installed, extUtils::PkgConfig not installed
[09:35] <Verithrax> I'm rather comfortable, since I used Slackware happily before switching to Ubuntu...
[09:35] <sflash> anyone know how to fix this?
[09:36] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: are you trying to connect to IRC ?? Yahoo AOL ?? Google ?? Jabber ??
[09:36] <DBO> vmadmin, thats two lines
[09:36] <spikeb> are you comfortable with crap breaking for no apparent reason?
[09:36] <lauri> How can i do to install a program using "terminal"?
[09:36] <stjepan> anyone uses mouse gestures?
[09:36] <disinterested_pe> idk which one its trying to use do i go to preferences to find that?
[09:36] <vmadmin> DBO: this apt-get line is it all on one line apt-get install loop-aes-utils module-assistant install loop-aes
[09:36] <GTroy> lauri, use the command sudo apt-get install
[09:36] <GTroy> then the app name
[09:36] <vmadmin> DBO: ok so the secound line is what?
[09:36] <Verithrax> spikeb, You don't have to be comfortable with Linux to be comfortable with that. Windows users seem to almost expecti t.
[09:37] <DBO> vmadmin, hold on a second please... I read it worng, let me look
[09:37] <spikeb> heh Verithrax
[09:37] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: then you setup your account you can select the service you want to use too
[09:37] <spikeb> Verithrax: there's a difference between what windows does, and what unstable/testing can do
[09:37] <disinterested_pe> ok how do i get back to acct setup?
[09:37] <[Spooky] > hm the ##Linux channel got nuked :(
[09:37] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: right click on the Gaim icon in the taskbar then select accounts
[09:37] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: click on add
[09:38] <Madpilot> [Spooky] , yeah, some attack on the network - it was more than just ##linux
[09:38] <disinterested_pe> its trying to connect to aim icq
[09:38] <lauri> GTroy, isnt necessary write the name of the program?
[09:38] <DBO> vmadmin, "sudo apt-get install loop-aes-utils loop-aes module-assistant" is what I think they want here
[09:38] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: what service do you have a registered account on
[09:38] <[Spooky] > Madpilot: ok :/
[09:38] <GTroy> lauri, if you didn't it wouldn't know what to install
[09:38] <disinterested_pe> ok ive got it now
[09:38] <disinterested_pe> lol
[09:39] <vmadmin> DBO: ok i will try that and gie you the pastebin if i need to
[09:39] <vmadmin> give
[09:39] <DBO> vmadmin, ok
[09:39] <DBO> vmadmin, have I helped you before or somesuch?
[09:39] <Verithrax> Hm, I dunno. Problem with upgrading is that I can't go back easily once I do.
[09:40] <disinterested_pe> i still get the same thing it says been disconnected
[09:40] <lauri> GTroy, thanks. Sorry but i'm using linux recently.
[09:40] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: what protocol
[09:40] <disinterested_pe> yahoo
[09:40] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: have you got an account Im on yahoo right now
[09:40] <disinterested_pe> yes
[09:40] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: in gaim
[09:40] <vmadmin> DBO: ye a while ago, you told me you like mount something its a coffee you drink or did drink
[09:40] <disinterested_pe> as of yesterday
[09:41] <Verithrax> When is the Dapper release planned for this week?
[09:41] <leverbes> is someone can explain me if thre laws to speak or can say what I want?
[09:41] <disinterested_pe> ive got e mail there
[09:41] <DBO> vmadmin, ah, well, did the command work? =)
[09:41] <disinterested_pe> idk
[09:41] <DBO> Verithrax, June 1st
[09:41] <vmadmin> DBO: just a sec
[09:41] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok the Screen Name is usually just your account name  not linux_galore@yahoo.com  but Linux_Galore
[09:42] <Verithrax> I guess I can wait a couple of weeks.
[09:42] <disinterested_pe> ok yeah i didnt put in linux galore
[09:42] <spikeb> heh
[09:42] <GTroy> crimsun, still around?
[09:42] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: that my account name lol
[09:42] <crimsun> GTroy: hi
[09:43] <GTroy> no sound from right speaker
[09:43] <disinterested_pe> yeah i see
[09:43] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: have to use your own
[09:43] <CokeNCode> hey, what's the difference between dapper and breezy
[09:43] <CokeNCode> i never got that ... :S
[09:43] <crimsun> GTroy: enocontext
[09:43] <disinterested_pe> right i used my sn from yahoo
[09:43] <linux_galore> CokeNCode: bit like a new care, more refined less bugs
[09:43] <Madpilot> CokeNCode, Breezy is the current stable; Dapper is current development version
[09:43] <linux_galore> car*
[09:44] <Madpilot> Dapper will become stable in about two weeks - June 1st
[09:44] <lauri> GTroy,I installed Linux UBUNTU in my pc and I'm fascinated with it.
[09:44] <spikeb> it'll be declared stable :P
[09:44] <crimsun> spikeb: about as stable as its users.
[09:44] <stjepan> do you know any quick ways of starting applications, like mouse gestures?
[09:44] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: once your in click on tools -> room list
[09:44] <sflash> im trying to install ExtUtils::Depends and it says that it cant do the makefile
[09:44] <CokeNCode> Madpilot, ok, thanks. But, eventually, breezy will be upgraded to dapper. once dapper has been refined right? it's just a matter of how "cutting edge" you wanna keep your distro
[09:44] <Verithrax> Gnome deskbar, stjepan.
[09:44] <GTroy> after you got sound working (sort of) for flashplayer, it stopped the sound from working on the right speaker on xmms
[09:44] <stjepan> Verithrax, tnx
[09:45] <CokeNCode> At first i thought one was a lighter version ... for servers ... or something like that.
[09:45] <vmadmin> DBO take a look http://pastebin.ca/57497
[09:45] <disinterested_pe> i cant install that easyubuntu either and havent got bios in or even know if ur m.b. uses bios with ubuntu
[09:45] <GTroy> crimsun, prolly an easy fix
[09:45] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: Im in Linux, FreeBSD Solaris:1
[09:45] <Madpilot> CokeNCode, if you're runnign Breezy right now, you'll be able to upgrade in place - dist-upgrade - right to Dapper
[09:45] <crimsun> GTroy: zero the mixer levels using alsamixer or envy24control, and turn them up again.
[09:45] <GTroy> ok
[09:45] <DBO> vmadmin, "sudo apt-get install loop-aes module-assistant" is what I think they want here
[09:45] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: doesnt matter Linux dumps the bios stuff when it loads
[09:45] <disinterested_pe> ok ty
[09:46] <disinterested_pe> ive really got no clue about this yet
[09:46] <vmadmin> DBO: take a look http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/03/13/1656228
[09:46] <vmadmin> DBO: its about half way down
[09:46] <disinterested_pe> so how do i need to install easyubuntu?
[09:47] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: neither did I 8 years ago and it was harder back then
[09:47] <DBO> vmadmin, "sudo apt-get install loop-aes module-assistant" and tell me any error output =)
[09:47] <disinterested_pe> i can imagine
[09:47] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: you dont install it you run it
[09:47] <GTroy> crimsun, no change
[09:47] <disinterested_pe> i cant imagine what it was like in what 1969
[09:48] <disinterested_pe> ok but i cant find it lol
[09:48] <crimsun> GTroy: which element(s) did you adjust? pastebin ``amixer'' output
[09:48] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: follow the howto
[09:48] <linux_galore> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[09:48] <disinterested_pe> theres a folder on my desktop easyubuntu but it wont do anything
[09:49] <sflash> can you install rpm files on ubuntu?
[09:49] <DBO> its risky
[09:49] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: you need to unpack it, its a zip file
[09:49] <nalioth> sflash: you can, but you are likely to break something
[09:49] <sflash> thats not good to hear
[09:49] <disinterested_pe> its extracted
[09:50] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: have to open a terminal
[09:50] <DBO> vmadmin, "sudo apt-get install module-assistant" forget aes, you already have it
[09:50] <disinterested_pe> ok opening
[09:50] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: in the graphical file mananger highlight the path to the file with the mouse
[09:50] <GTroy> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14373
[09:50] <DBO> sflash, if you need to, as an ABSOLUTE last resort (after compile from source), you can try alien, and only if you are willing to risk breaking things
[09:51] <sflash> im just wondering why i cant install a perl package
[09:51] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: actually just open a terminal
[09:51] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: once its unpacked
[09:51] <sflash> ive tried command line and everything install. nothing seems to work
[09:51] <linux_galore> cd Desktop/easyubuntu
[09:52] <crimsun> GTroy: did you use alsamixer or envy24control?
[09:52] <vmadmin> DBO: module-assistant is already the newsest version
[09:52] <disinterested_pe> idk what ur talking about graphical terminal
[09:52] <GTroy> alsamixer
[09:52] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: yeah a command line terminal
[09:52] <DBO> vmadmin, then you are good to go, just ignore that part, you have everything installed
[09:52] <crimsun> GTroy: use envy24control
[09:52] <disinterested_pe> ok thats open
[09:52] <nomin> does anyone in here have mythtv installed and running?
[09:52] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: now you unpacked it on the desktop right
[09:53] <disinterested_pe> in file browser yeah
[09:53] <DBO> nomin, the hard part is getting your card working, whats the issue?
[09:53] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok lets change to the easyubuntu directory that was created when we unpacked it
[09:53] <GTroy> crimsun, how do I open it up?
[09:53] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: type  cd  Desktop/easyubuntu
[09:54] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: cd - change directory
[09:54] <vmadmin> DBO: thanks a lot  now before i go --the line dd if=/dev/zero of=/location/of/file bs=4k count=2560  if i want to do the whole partition how would this line change ?
[09:54] <disinterested_pe> h/o it says my
[09:54] <sflash> how can you run a rpm file? you have to make it?
[09:54] <disinterested_pe> repositories need to be modified b4 proceeding
[09:54] <DBO> erm... you would end up blanking your entire drive if you did the whole partition vmadmin
[09:54] <crimsun> you'd invoke envy24control
[09:55] <crimsun> !info alsa-tools-gui
[09:55] <nalioth> sflash: no, you use alien (if you absolutely cannot find the software in an ubuntu form)
[09:55] <GTroy> won't work
[09:55] <nomin> DBO, I don't think I know what I'm doing, that's the issue.  Do I need to configure mysql before doing anything with mythtv?
[09:55] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: yep thats normal
[09:55] <crimsun> GTroy: are you running dapper or breezy?
[09:55] <GTroy> breezy
[09:55] <disinterested_pe> ok let me type in the stuff u posted
[09:55] <I_Love_DRM> Ok I downloaded GParted live CD and now its on 'Scanning all devices" and wont change
[09:55] <vmadmin> DBO: ok so do it a bit at a time
[09:55] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: needs to add some repositories so it can get the packages
[09:55] <I_Love_DRM> :(
[09:55] <crimsun> GTroy: ah, then you'd have to compile it.
[09:55] <DBO> nomin, what card?
[09:55] <ironwires> .
[09:55] <overflow-1> iPod video query: how can one transfer images to an ipod in linux. GTKPod doesn't seem to do it for me.
[09:55] <GTroy> :(
[09:55] <GTroy> brb
[09:55] <DBO> vmadmin, is it your boot drive you are doing this to?
[09:55] <nalioth> I_Love_DRM: so why aren't you in #gparted ?
[09:56] <I_Love_DRM> thx - im new to this server
[09:56] <I_Love_DRM> its empty :(
[09:56] <disinterested_pe> do i hit enter after the first line?
[09:56] <I_Love_DRM> Since its part of ubuntu I thought it would be relevant?
[09:56] <mormoloc> can any of you give me the instructruction for compiling Valknut?
[09:56] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: were are you, have you run the program ??
[09:57] <mormoloc> Valknut site is dead
[09:57] <DBO> vmadmin, your walkthrough there is to create an encrypted file locker so to speak, NOT to encrypt your entire filesystem
[09:57] <nomin> DBO:  Hauppauge winTV-GO-Plus (Bt878)
[09:57] <disinterested_pe> no i typed the cd desktop easyubuntu commanmd
[09:57] <vmadmin> DBO: iok
[09:57] <DBO> nomin, i think you are going to need to get IVTV for that, have you gotten and built the IVTV module?
[09:57] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: disinterested_pe  cd Desktop/easybuntu  > exactly like that
[09:58] <disinterested_pe> yes
[09:58] <disinterested_pe> now enter?
[09:58] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: yes
[09:58] <disinterested_pe> ok
[09:58] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: type pwd
[09:58] <nomin> DBO: no.  I just learned about ivtv a few minutes ago.
[09:58] <disinterested_pe> it says no such directory
[09:58] <disinterested_pe> file or directory
[09:58] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: aaah then easyubuntu wasnt unpacked on the desktop
[09:59] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: you put it somewere else
[09:59] <vmadmin> DBO: is this the same here in this article http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/81
[09:59] <nomin> DBO:  typing "ivtv" into synaptic gives a package called "libvideo-ivtv-perl".  Is that it?
[09:59] <DBO> nomin, yeah, you are going to need to compile, install, and modprobe ivtv
[09:59] <disinterested_pe> it is in file browser
[09:59] <DBO> nomin, its not in the repos
[09:59] <I_Love_DRM> is it possible to extend a ext3 partition if the free space is before the ext3?
[09:59] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: file browser isn a file it just shows you what your doing
[09:59] <disinterested_pe> ok
[09:59] <disinterested_pe> so how do i unpack it?
[10:00] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe:ok lets do this the proper way
[10:00] <DBO> vmadmin, yes, you CAN do this to entire disks, but not the one you are booting from
[10:00] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:00] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe:   type cd Desktop
[10:00] <nomin> DBO:  I think I have sites in tabs in firefox that have the url's for it
[10:00] <disinterested_pe> in terminal?
[10:00] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: yes
[10:00] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:01] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: everyting I do is now in a terminal
[10:01] <GTroy> crimsun, after I installed alsa-oss and set all the volumes in alsamixer to 100% I lost my right speaker....
[10:01] <disinterested_pe> ok now enter?
[10:01] <DBO> vmadmin, the command dd if=/dev/zero of=device bs=4k essentially blanks the entire disk, the count=1024 (or whatever) causes it to stop after 1024 counts of 4k blocks
[10:01] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: after every command hit enter
[10:01] <nomin> DBO: how long did it take you to install and get mythtv running on your system?
[10:01] <vmadmin> DBO: so how do you boot into a disk that is encryted I though that was the whole idea
[10:01] <disinterested_pe> ok no such file or directory again
[10:02] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: type cd
[10:02] <crimsun> GTroy: not sure why you set all your levels to 100%
[10:02] <DBO> nomin, dont feel bad if you are having a rough time with MythTV, almost everyone does.  Took me 4 hours to get right, and Im fairly versed in linux
[10:02] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:02] <jayrod06> question, how can i set up apple's quicktime aac encoder with gstreamer
[10:02] <GTroy> crimsun, I thought you told me to
[10:02] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: now type cd Desktop   and desktop is work Desktop is right
[10:02] <linux_galore> wrong*
[10:02] <Frogzoo> I_Love_DRM: I don't think so - would be glad to hear differently
[10:02] <crazy_penguin> morning
[10:02] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: now type cd Desktop   and desktop is wrong Desktop is right
[10:02] <DBO> vmadmin, I dont know if you can boot to an encrypted disk... you do realize that adds cpu and disk access overhead right?
[10:03] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: the command line is case sensitive
[10:03] <DBO> vmadmin, in general you should only use encryption where you really need to
[10:03] <crimsun> GTroy: that was dli.
[10:03] <crazy_penguin> what i have to write into the modules.conf file to disable the ipv6 extensions?
[10:03] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: so lower and upper case names are totally different
[10:03] <GTroy> oh gotcha
[10:03] <GTroy> sorry
[10:03] <I_Love_DRM> Frogzoo I read you can just make another ext3 partition and make /home go to it instead of merging - is this hard to do?
[10:03] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:03] <disinterested_pe> next?
[10:03] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: desktop and Desktop  are different files
[10:03] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:04] <Frogzoo> I_Love_DRM:  you mean create another partition & move all your data over? sure, it's easy as
[10:04] <GTroy> crimsun, if I could just get back to where I was before...
[10:04] <dli> GTroy, play with alsamixer, speaker cables
[10:04] <disinterested_pe> ive got Desktop$
[10:04] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok type pwd   [enter]   should tell you your in the Desktop directory
[10:04] <treo700wfitz> hi
[10:04] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok now type ls
[10:04] <GTroy> dli, I'd be shooting in the dark
[10:04] <I_Love_DRM> How do you tell Ubuntu that /home is now on the new partition?
[10:04] <vmadmin> DBO: ok I have a server with vmware I do not want a firewall , postfix sends messages to vm mail mail client  ok its just a thought block encryption will  not work
[10:04] <disinterested_pe> yeah home/   /   /
[10:04] <Frogzoo> I_Love_DRM: edit /etc/fstab
[10:05] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: that will list all the files you have in Desktop
[10:05] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, you dont have to, so long as your new partition's mountpoint is /home it will use that
[10:05] <The_Answer> how do you make a slideshow media on linux?
[10:05] <disinterested_pe> i have Desktop$ again
[10:05] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: type ls
[10:06] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: you should see  easyubuntu-3.0-beta.tar.gz  listed there
[10:06] <I_Love_DRM> So it pays to clear the /home that is present now so it doesnt conflict?
[10:06] <disinterested_pe> ok now ive got a bunch of things
[10:06] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: is easyubuntu there
[10:06] <GTroy> dli, thank you
[10:06] <Frogzoo> I_Love_DRM: entirely unnecessary
[10:06] <disinterested_pe> yep
[10:06] <DBO> vmadmin, im not quite sure what you just said... but I got the general idea.  Encryption on servers, especially mailservers is generally a bad idea *unless you have a darn good reason*.  This is doubly so for VM's.
[10:06] <I_Love_DRM> how will I see my old /home stuff? if theres 2 /homes
[10:06] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok good were on the right track, your doing good for a newbie
[10:07] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: better than I did the first time
[10:07] <disinterested_pe> ty i couldnt figure this out without good help
[10:07] <dli> I_Love_DRM, combine them, or, use /home1 /home2 :)
[10:07] <batman> could someone here guide me towards locking a user in one dir giving 777 chmod but not being able to browse any other dirs but ones that reside inside the certain dir
[10:07] <vmadmin> DBO: so i am in a danger zone ok thanks
[10:07] <GTroy> are there any presets to alsamixer?
[10:07] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok now the next part is bit weird so I need to give you a quick cheat lesson
[10:07] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:07] <Frogzoo> I_Love_DRM: take a look at /etc/fstab - as long as you're mounting the device name, not the volume label, there won't be any confusion - if you're using volume labels, then you'll need to rename the volume
[10:08] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: geeks are lazy, we like to do things the easy way
[10:08] <disinterested_pe> well thats ok geek
[10:08] <DBO> linux_galore, we are not lazy, we are just obsessed with not doing stuff the hard way...
[10:08] <GTroy> haha
[10:08] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: now rather than type out a file name we usually just type out the first three or so letter and hit the TAB key and Linux finnishes the name
[10:08] <GTroy> all hail the slackers
[10:09] <disinterested_pe> i can understand that too
[10:09] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: its called autocomplete, saves you typing
[10:09] <DBO> Frogzoo, I was just modifying an already existing blanket statement =P
[10:09] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok now type  tar zxvf  easy[TAB KEY] 
[10:09] <disinterested_pe> ok so autocomplete in terminal?
[10:09] <Frogzoo> DBO: meh - I'm too lazy to argue :)
[10:10] <DBO> Frogzoo, want some cheezy poofs?
[10:10] <I_Love_DRM> ok I turned the free space into ext3 - /hda/ext3 - how do I make this /home now??
[10:10] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: hit should show  tar  zxvf   easyubuntu-3.0-beta.tar.gz
[10:10] <disinterested_pe> ok didnt do anything
[10:11] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: going to have to do it the long way ouch
[10:11] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: hmm means autocomplete isnt active, theres a bug
[10:11] <I_Love_DRM> its /dev/hda4 I mean
[10:11] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: type ls again
[10:11] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:11] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: going to show you another cheat
[10:12] <linux_galore> now highlight with your mouse the easyubuntu file name right click drag to the right on the file name in the terminal
[10:12] <disinterested_pe> ok ls didnt do anything either im at the bottom of the terminal window
[10:13] <I_Love_DRM> how do I make a mount persistant?
[10:13] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, you need to add an entry to /etc/fstab
[10:13] <DBO> !fstab
[10:13] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions. See also !partitions
[10:13] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: disinterested_pe click on the terminal screen
[10:13] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: type ls
[10:13] <DBO> hmmm, no link love in !fstab...
[10:13] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:14] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:14] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: if you dont see anything you type in the terminal it just mean you lost focus, just click on the terminal and it returns
[10:14] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:14] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: so when you typed tar zxvf  did that appear as you typed
[10:14] <I_Love_DRM> So just add   /dev/hda4 /home  ext3 into the end of the file
[10:15] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, put your fstab in pastebin please =)
[10:15] <disinterested_pe> yes
[10:15] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok good
[10:15] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: and your still in Desktop
[10:15] <DBO> !tell I_Love_DRM about pastebin
[10:15] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: just type y
[10:15] <disinterested_pe> yes
[10:16] <I_Love_DRM> Its on another PC ;(
[10:16] <disinterested_pe> y command not foumd
[10:16] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok now type ls again and look the for easyubuntu-3.0-beta.tar.gz
[10:16] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe:  y = yes   you dont have to type yes
[10:16] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, well, erm, yes, but there are numbers you and other such options you need in your /etc/fstab entry...
[10:16] <disinterested_pe> ok its there
[10:17] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:17] <I_Love_DRM> brb ill jump on the Ubuntu machine
[10:17] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok now put the mouse cursor on the e in easyubuntu left click then drag an highlight the name
[10:17] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: the whole file name
[10:17] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:18] <disinterested_pe> the one with the date?
[10:18] <linux_galore> ok now type tar zxvf  [MIDDLE CLICK MOUSE BUTTON] 
[10:18] <I_Love_DRM> ok
[10:18] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: no just highlight easyubuntu-3.0-beta.tar.gz
[10:19] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: should show tar zxvf  easyubuntu-3.0-beta.tar.gz
[10:19] <I_Love_DRM> can you please tell me that pastebin site again now im on the Ubuntu box
[10:19] <disinterested_pe> ok ive got easyubuntu and easyubuntu 2006-05-20
[10:20] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: the file you downloaded should be easyubuntu-3.0-beta.tar.gz
[10:20] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:20] <disinterested_pe> h/o
[10:20] <disinterested_pe> i had that but i must have trashed it
[10:21] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: when you highlight anything in Linux with the mouse it adds that text to a special cut/past cache, its one of those lazy geek things
[10:22] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: type cd easyubuntu
[10:22] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: think you unpacked it and it removed the zip folder
[10:22] <disinterested_pe> ok ive got easy ubuntu 2.4 beta 4.tar.bz 2
[10:22] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok
[10:23] <disinterested_pe> how do i get it from trash to desktop again
[10:23] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: little bit different though as its a newer version of compression  ie bz2 instead of the older gz
[10:23] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: same as windows open the trash drag and drop it
[10:23] <DBO> !pastebin
[10:23] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:23] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:24] <I_Love_DRM> OK I sent the fstab
[10:24] <disinterested_pe> now do i need to redo everything again in terminal
[10:24] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: yep
[10:24] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: type ls again
[10:24] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, did you get the pastebin site?
[10:25] <disinterested_pe> i just refreshed the terminal
[10:25] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: are you in the Desktop folder ??
[10:25] <disinterested_pe> lol
[10:25] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok type cd Desktop
[10:25] <I_Love_DRM> yes - I pasted the file there
[10:25] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, link please =)
[10:25] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:25] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: type ls
[10:25] <I_Love_DRM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14374
[10:26] <disinterested_pe> ok now it shows the files
[10:26] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: now type  tar jxvf   dont press enter yet
[10:26] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:27] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: highliught the easybuntu...tar.bz2 folder
[10:27] <linux_galore> highlight*
[10:27] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: with your mouse
[10:27] <linux_galore> pointer
[10:27] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:27] <disinterested_pe> done
[10:27] <ironwires> Emergency!Can anybody tell me how to install RAID driver when installing Ubuntu?
[10:27] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, what was the device, hda4?
[10:27] <I_Love_DRM> yes
[10:27] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: point to  tar  jxvf  <here  and middle click the mouse
[10:27] <tony_> hi all of a sudden my xmms says couldn
[10:28] <tony_> hi all of a sudden my xmms says couldn't open audio.
[10:28] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: it will past what you highlighted
[10:28] <disinterested_pe> all i have is rt and left click
[10:28] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok press both buttons at the same time
[10:28] <tony_> how can I check if the driver is locked by another application? how to release it?
[10:28] <ironwires> Emergency!Can anybody tell me how to install RAID driver when installing Ubuntu?
[10:29] <dli> Ironhand, don't repeat
[10:29] <disinterested_pe> i lost the hilite does it matter?
[10:29] <ironwires> :(
[10:29] <Ademan> do any of you guys use anti virus?
[10:29] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: maybe try it if nothing then highligh it again
[10:29] <NytShade> Is there a "fixed system" font?
[10:29] <ironwires> anyone can help?
[10:29] <Ademan> anti virus software that is
[10:29] <Frogzoo> !raid
[10:29] <ubotu> raid is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[10:30] <Frogzoo> ironwires: ^^^
[10:30] <Ademan> and if so, antivir vs clam av
[10:30] <ironwires> okay,thanx
[10:30] <disinterested_pe> ok i rehilited it and clicked and now it has the file behind tar
[10:30] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14376 I made a new entry
[10:30] <|neo> i'm having problems with my apache 1.3.33 that was instaled from the apt-get the server does not show the .html pages and the .php pages it tells to save the files as if i was making a download ..
[10:30] <disinterested_pe> command
[10:30] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: lesson 2 done lol
[10:30] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:30] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, do NOT make that change yet, first you will need to move your old /home out of the way...
[10:31] <devie> when I try to install a gnome theme, it doesn't show up (ie, drag and drop the .tar.gz file onto Theme manager) it says that it's installed, but it's not available in the list of installed themes.
[10:31] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: should read tar jxvf  easybuntu,,,,,some junk. tar.bz2
[10:31] <disinterested_pe> yep
[10:31] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: hit enter
[10:31] <Frogzoo> !tell devie about themes
[10:31] <I_Love_DRM> ok
[10:31] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, have you moved all your /home to your new partition?
[10:31] <I_Love_DRM> I need to open the fstab for writing - its owned by root
[10:31] <|neo> i'm having problems with my apache 1.3.33 that was instaled from the apt-get the server does not show the .html pages and the .php pages it tells to save the files as if i was making a download ..
[10:31] <devie> Frogzoo: thanks
[10:32] <Frogzoo> devie: you may need to log out/back in
[10:32] <|neo> can any none help me please
[10:32] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, dont write that change in yet...
[10:32] <I_Love_DRM> ok
[10:32] <disinterested_pe> tar old option `f' requires an argument
[10:32] <disinterested_pe> try tar help or useage
[10:32] <I_Love_DRM> where do partitions show up? so I can paste the home dir
[10:32] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, have you made a copy of your home folder yet?
[10:32] <tony_> hi anyone please help me with this sound card problem? how to check which application is holding the sound card. xmms says it cannot find audion device.
[10:32] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: means it didnt see the file
[10:32] <Frogzoo> |neo: we can't help you if you won't say what your problem is
[10:32] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: or you have a typo in the name
[10:32] <disinterested_pe> so now what
[10:33] <t-thing> Could someone teach me howto get a url from irssi or mutt window to clipboard with keyboard?
[10:33] <|neo> my apache server does not open the pages it apers the box to download them ....
[10:33] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: type cd easyubuntu
[10:33] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:33] <I_Love_DRM> How do I find where the new partition is? Im used to it showing something like d: or e:
[10:33] <|neo> i have installed from the apt-get it is the 1.3.33
[10:33] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: think its already unpacked anyway from before
[10:34] <disinterested_pe> no such file or directory
[10:34] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: nope its not
[10:34] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: type ls easy*
[10:34] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, it doesnt work like that, just please answer my questions as they come, you will learn as we go =)
[10:35] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: should show everything beginning with easy
[10:35] <disinterested_pe> ok i just unpacked it
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> does anyone know of a tool that works with iptables (or shorewall) that allows you to see how much bandwidth each *client* that is connected to the firewall is using? There is one box that is both firewall, dhcp, dns and default gateway.
[10:35] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok cd easyubuntu
[10:35] <I_Love_DRM> You said to put the old contents of the home folder into the partition I just made, I cannot find the new partition to paste
[10:36] <kuja> I've got a friend who's entire disk is formatted as NTFS and wants to install Ubuntu. Is it possible to partition free space without messing up anything?
[10:36] <disinterested_pe> crap
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> kuja: yeah
[10:36] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, type in terminal "ls /mnt"
[10:36] <disinterested_pe> its saying no file or directory
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> kuja: the installer can do that.
[10:36] <|neo> frogzoo : my apache was installed form the apt-get and it does not open any page in the /var/www it tells allways to save the file in the disck
[10:36] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, does that show anything?
[10:36] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: dont worry might have a different name
[10:36] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: type  ls easy*
[10:36] <Frogzoo> kuja: you need to resize the ntfs partition - be sure to defrag BEFORE resizing
[10:36] <slackern> fyrestrt1: you could try 'iftop'
[10:36] <I_Love_DRM> empty
[10:37] <kuja> Frogzoo: Ah okay
[10:37] <disinterested_pe> both said no such file or directory
[10:37] <slackern> fyrestrt1: 'sudo apt-get install iftop' maybe not the prettiest of applications but it's a start :)
[10:37] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: your in the wrong place
[10:37] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, wonderful, now in terminal type "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda4 /mnt
[10:37] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: are you still in Desktop
[10:37] <disinterested_pe> yep
[10:37] <|neo> frogzoo : my apache was installed form the apt-get and it does not open any page in the /var/www it tells allways to save the file in the disck
[10:38] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: well there is no file called easy*** in there
[10:38] <I_Love_DRM> done
[10:38] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, did it ask you for your password and did you give it your password? =)
[10:38] <disinterested_pe> it says no such file or directory] 
[10:38] <slackern> fyrestrt1: 'sudo iftop -i ethx' and you'll see what hosts on that interface is using.
[10:38] <NytShade> How do I modify a configuration file? Every time I open one it's set to read only.
[10:38] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: yes because your in the wrong place you didnt put the file on the desktop
[10:38] <|neo> my apache was installed form the apt-get and it does not open any page in the /var/www it tells allways to save the file in the disck
[10:38] <I_Love_DRM> yes now theres a dir called lost+found
[10:39] <|neo> my apache was installed form the apt-get and it does not open any page in the /var/www it tells allways to save the file in the disck can any one helpme please ...
[10:39] <woggy> anyone here use pygame
[10:39] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, perfect, we are doing well, what we just did is mount your new partition
[10:39] <disinterested_pe> it says its there
[10:39] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, linux doesnt use C: or D: like windows, new partitions are mounted IN the file system.  So for a windows style translation, your D: drive is /mnt
[10:39] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: whats the files exact name
[10:39] <slackern> fyrestrt1: if you find some other nice application for let me know, would be fun to run on the router.
[10:39] <woggy> if anyone heres got pygame on ubuntu, does it have pygame.surface.Surface.copy
[10:40] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, now type this command "sudo cp -r /home/* /mnt"
[10:40] <woggy> because it seems to be 'missing' here
[10:40] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, that command will take a bit of time to complete
[10:40] <|neo> my apache was installed form the apt-get and it does not open any page in the /var/www it tells allways to save the file in the disck can any one helpme please ...
[10:40] <I_Love_DRM> Ok its done
[10:40] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: lets start at the beginning shall we
[10:41] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok type cd
[10:41] <disinterested_pe> easyubuntu-2.4beta4tar.bz2
[10:41] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, "ls /mnt"
[10:41] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:41] <I_Love_DRM> ftp lost+found mike
[10:41] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: disinterested_pedrop the file in your /home/username directory
[10:41] <I_Love_DRM> its a pretty fresh install
[10:42] <disinterested_pe> how?
[10:42] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, ok, good, well on our way well on our way.  Ok, now comes the part that I want to get frogzoos input on...
[10:42] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: drop the file in the /home/username/ directory
[10:42] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: click on the home icon and drag and drop
[10:42] <|neo> my apache was installed form the apt-get and it does not open any page in the /var/www it tells allways to save the file in the disck can any one helpme please ...
[10:42] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: also in the first menu it should allow you to open home
[10:42] <DBO> hey Frogzoo, for moving his home directory, you think we should boot him over to a live boot before displacing his home directory?
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> slackern: anything a bit more polished? Something like cacti, but that works at a client level?
[10:42] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, do you have a live CD?
[10:43] <t-thing> Could someone teach me howto get a url from irssi or mutt window to clipboard with keyboard? (first and last repost)
[10:43] <disinterested_pe> im not seeing home
[10:43] <slackern> fyrestrt1: hmm you don't run squid do you?
[10:43] <I_Love_DRM> somewhere...
[10:43] <gnomefreak> |neo: you can stop repeating now if someone knows they will be glad to help you
[10:43] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: dont worry
[10:43] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell |neo about apache
[10:43] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, well the right way to do this will be to dig up that live CD, you think you can do that for me?
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> slackern: nope.
[10:43] <gnomefreak> |neo: try that link in your pm
[10:43] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: now in the terminal type wget http://robotgeek.org/eu/easyubuntu-3.0-beta.tar.gz
[10:43] <disinterested_pe> is that like be happy
[10:44] <dac9cccc> Have a question about PHPmyadmin. WHat is the default username and password after a fresh install?
[10:44] <slackern> fyrestrt1: oh ok, hmm not really sure what bw monitoring apps there are out there, i was hoping for something in a console also.
[10:44] <woggy> anyone who uses pygame here
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> dac9cccc: whatever it is on your mysql database
[10:44] <slackern> fyrestrt1: i'll look around some too maybe we can find something out.
[10:44] <DBO> dac9cccc, root with no password
[10:44] <I_Love_DRM> I'll have a look -  brb  The reason im doing all this is because I thought 3GB would be enough for Ubuntu - now I've only got 100mb free and theres 105mb of updates + what I install in the future
[10:44] <dac9cccc> thanks
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> slackern: well I just need something that can either plugin to shorewall or read the information from iptables and show me in a graph which client is the majority user.
[10:45] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, erm... this wont really help that though...
[10:45] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: hit enter it should download a file
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> slackern: the same box runs openvpn, dns, dhcp & shorewall.
[10:45] <babo> grep -rn chosen-word ... this will search my harddrive for the chosen word right ?
[10:45] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:46] <I_Love_DRM> I have about 80Mb in the /home to free + any non system items caan go there also
[10:46] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: when its finnished type   tar  zxvf  easyubuntu-3.0-beta.tar.gz
[10:46] <disinterested_pe> weget command not found
[10:46] <[Yatta] > can someone tell me what the 'p' stands for in this line: ---->  prw-r--r--  1 root root     0 2006-05-21 03:30 /dev/lircd
[10:46] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: wget not weget
[10:46] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: your making typo's
[10:46] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:46] <slackern> fyrestrt1: http://jnettop.kubs.info/wiki/?id=Screenshots something like that perhaps?
[10:46] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: type wget http://robotgeek.org/eu/easyubuntu-3.0-beta.tar.gz
[10:47] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: press the up arrow and you can edit your mistakes
[10:47] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, ok... mine is not to ask why, mine is but to do or die
[10:48] <disinterested_pe> ok ive got it
[10:48] <[Yatta] > I'm compiling lirc but i notice those permissions .... p
[10:48] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: when its finnished type   tar  zxvf  easyubuntu-3.0-beta.tar.gz
[10:48] <I_Love_DRM> ok what if I wipe all the linux partitions and reinstall using just 1 big partition
[10:49] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, now you are talking =)
[10:49] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, for new users that is the best route
[10:49] <I_Love_DRM> Will the bootloader show multi entries - or should I do a fixmbr on xp to wipe it
[10:49] <disinterested_pe> ok all the files came up
[10:49] <[Yatta] > anyone have any clue on that?
[10:50] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: ok now type  cd easyubuntu
[10:50] <|neo> after i installed the php4 i executed this comand sudo a2enmod php4
[10:50] <|neo> This module does not exist!
[10:50] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:50] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, a reinstall of ubuntu will write in a new grub, it will show windows, but wont show your old (now dead) ubuntu install
[10:50] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: now type sudo python easyubuntu.py
[10:51] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: just type in your password and it should start running
[10:51] <I_Love_DRM> OK thanks - ill boot the live GParted cd I burnt and delete all linux partitions then start again
[10:51] <disinterested_pe> it is
[10:51] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: just answer the questions as they happen
[10:51] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, best of luck!
[10:51] <I_Love_DRM> Thanks very much for your help
[10:51] <DBO> anytime =)
[10:52] <I_Love_DRM> should be back in an hour if its all good
[10:52] <I_Love_DRM> bye
[10:53] <disinterested_pe> ok it says couldnot download all repository indexes
[10:53] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: thats fine
[10:53] <dac9cccc> I have one more quic question. Where is the folder located that points to a website once apache is installed. I cant find the www folder
[10:54] <disinterested_pe> its saying all this
[10:54] <disinterested_pe> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://packages.freecontrib.org breezy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.freecontrib.org_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:54] <disinterested_pe> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://packages.freecontrib.org breezy/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.freecontrib.org_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:54] <disinterested_pe> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://packages.freecontrib.org breezy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.freecontrib.org_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:54] <disinterested_pe> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://packages.freecontrib.org breezy/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.freecontrib.org_ubuntu_plf_dists_breezy_non-free_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:54] <disinterested_pe> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[10:54] <disinterested_pe> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
[10:54] <DBO> !paste
[10:54] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[10:54] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: dont do that you will get booted
[10:55] <disinterested_pe> ok sorry
[10:55] <dac9cccc> anyone know where the "www" is located
[10:56] <DBO> ... you mean for apache right?
[10:56] <DBO> /var/www
[10:56] <dac9cccc> thanks
[10:56] <_JP> i ran kubuntu 5.10 installation in the expert mode. i entered a root passwd when it was asked.
[10:56] <_JP> i can "su" fine in the konsole, but nothing happens when i type to for example "sudo nano"
[10:56] <_JP> apps like adept updater refuse to start: "su returned with an error"
[10:56] <_JP> i already asked this on #kubuntu, but i'm not getting any responde.. hopefully someone here is able to give any hints what should i do to correct this..?
[10:56] <disinterested_pe> so is some of this going to allow me to use streamlink again?
[10:56] <linux_galore> disinterested_pe: it will poke around for a few sources some will fail
[10:57] <iveqy> hi, I', have problems to mount my SD card with a extern card reader. What I remeber it had worked before...
[10:57] <disinterested_pe> i cant seem to find any suitable codecs to connect to streaming media
[10:58] <gnomefreak> _JP: enabling su disables sudo (not recommended)
[10:58] <linux_galore> anyway time for bed
[10:58] <disinterested_pe> ok ty
[10:58] <iveqy> when I try mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/misc I got the error mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[10:58] <dac9cccc> I cant extract or move files into the www directory. i cant drag and drop them it says i dont have permission. how can i do this?
[10:59] <disinterested_pe> i bet ubuntu is cooler than windows once u learn it
[10:59] <DBO> dac9cccc, you need to us sudo cp
[10:59] <ditso> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-amd64-generic/misc/nd iswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[10:59] <ditso> can someone explain this error
[10:59] <_JP> gnomefreak: so should i have left the root passwd field empty? in the "non-expert" installation mode there is no such problem.
[10:59] <ditso> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-amd64-generic/misc/nd iswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[10:59] <dac9cccc> sudo cp? how can i do this with drag and drop. or do i need to do it by commands?
[11:00] <gnomefreak> _JP: with expert mod eyou have to enable root and never need sudo for anything when you install ubuntu with sudo enabled su can mess up permissions
[11:00] <DBO> dac9cccc, if you want to do drag and drop do sudo nautilus, but be VERY careful with that... it gives you full access to be stupid in your file system
[11:00] <gnomefreak> s/mod eyou/mode you
[11:00] <dac9cccc> ok thanks
[11:01] <ditso> can someone explain me this error pls
[11:01] <ditso> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-amd64-generic/misc/nd iswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[11:02] <_JP> the problem with the "non-expert" installation mode is that it somewhy automatically installs grub on the MBR, which i don't want to
[11:02] <gnomefreak> ditso: by the looks of it you either typed the command wrong or you didnt use an argument
[11:03] <gnomefreak> _JP: you dont have to install grub on mbr it gives you a choice
[11:03] <_JP> hmm, it didn't when there was no other os installed
[11:03] <stjepan> !thunderbird
[11:03] <ubotu> thunderbird is, like, totally, a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[11:03] <stjepan> anyone here uses mozilla thunderbird?
[11:03] <serenity> hi
[11:04] <gnomefreak> _JP: when it looks for other os's it asks you this is what i found would you like to install grub to mbr
[11:04] <gnomefreak> stjepan: yes
[11:04] <stjepan> gnomefreak, you?
[11:04] <gnomefreak> stjepan: yes
[11:04] <stjepan> gnomefreak, is it safe to let thunderbird save passwords?
[11:04] <gnomefreak> stjepan: i let mine save mine and i never had issue
[11:05] <stjepan> gnomefreak, but is it safe?
[11:05] <gnomefreak> stjepan: that really depends on how "afraid" you are
[11:05] <stjepan> gnomefreak, does thunderbird save plain passwords in it's config files?
[11:05] <_JP> gnomefreak: yes, and if there is no other os's, it installs (at least this is what experienced earlier this morning) grub on the mbr without asking
[11:06] <gnomefreak> stjepan: i dont think thunderbird is the one saving it i think its you password thing
[11:06] <gnomefreak> _JP: i always had a choice
[11:06] <disinterested_pe> ok does anyone know how i need to connect to yahoo with gaim?
[11:06] <_JP> hmm, i guess i'll have to give it another try
[11:07] <stjepan> gnomefreak, and you think it's safe to store passwords in thunderbird?
[11:07] <untung> hi, i cannot access ubuntu shared folder from my xp, any one can help?
[11:07] <KenSentMe> stjepan: i think it's not in plaun text and doens't it use the save password mechanism as Firefox.
[11:07] <DBO> !samba
[11:07] <ubotu> rumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[11:07] <svefi> hello, ububtu users, i am very new to linux and installed yesterday ubuntu on my notebook. Everything is working ok. But when booting the screen resolution is not seelcted properly. 1280x800 would be the correct setting. But displayed text is wrapped up from the buttom to the top of the screen. Can anybody help me with this problem?
[11:07] <DBO> read link #2 there untung
[11:07] <untung> I see the folder from xp, but i cannot log on using my user and password
[11:07] <KenSentMe> stjepan: it's nog absolutelu safe, but your passwords aren't out in the open too
[11:07] <gnomefreak> stjepan: the passwords are not being saved by thunderbird "its your password manager that saves them iirc"
[11:08] <Hoxzer> lol, finland won eurovision :D
[11:08] <DBO> untung, at the terminal (on ubuntu) enter "smbpasswd -a <yourusername>"
[11:08] <serenity> i want to switch from windows to linux, but don't know which distro i should use.
[11:08] <|neo> gnomefreak: didn't work its the same
[11:08] <stjepan> gnomefreak, and what do you recommend?
[11:08] <DBO> serenity, ubuntu is a great way to switch, and we are more than willing to help you =)
[11:08] <gnomefreak> stjepan: if your worried dont save any password to anything
[11:09] <serenity> just now, i am using a ubuntu live distro
[11:09] <gnomefreak> |neo: what were we doing?
[11:09] <devie> How can I make changes to the panel on the bottom of my screen? I really hate the way it looks by default
[11:09] <KenSentMe> serenity: what do you want to do with your distro?
[11:09] <stjepan> gnomefreak, so I must always manually type it there?
[11:09] <|neo> gnomefreak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:09] <ompaul> svefi, please read the message from the channel bot ubotu
[11:09] <|neo> gnomefreak: the apache stil does not open the files it tells to download them
[11:09] <gnomefreak> |neo: ahhhhh im not sure with apache (havent played with it enough
[11:10] <gnomefreak> stjepan: if you want to be "safe" yes
[11:10] <svefi> ompaul, thanks.
[11:10] <ompaul> svefi, np
[11:10] <serenity> just normal things: easy usage. But i don't like the gnome gui
[11:10] <disinterested_pe> atleast ur not stuck with what uve got like in windows
[11:10] <lechter> devie: right click and then choose properties or preferences
[11:10] <|neo> why the how tos are always rong
[11:10] <DBO> serenity, you prefer KDE?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> stjepan: it really depends on you on wha tyou should do (the things your asking makes me think its better for you to not save any passwords)
[11:11] <devie> lechter: yeah, I was hoping for more detailed control than that
[11:11] <gnomefreak> |neo: they are not wrong
[11:11] <serenity> no, kde is also not my thing.
[11:11] <|neo> they never work....
[11:11] <serenity> between the chairs
[11:11] <lechter> devie: how do you whant it to look like?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> |neo: if none of them ever work than i dont think its the wikis
[11:12] <devie> lechter: I'd like it if the application buttons didn't stretch all the way across the screen
[11:12] <KenSentMe> |neo: did you install apache2 or apache?
[11:12] <devie> lechter: I'd like something more akin to CDE
[11:12] <gnomefreak> |neo: if one maybe 2 dont work than i can say maybe wiki is wrong but when "none" of them work it isnt normally the wiki
[11:12] <|neo> i have tryed them bowth
[11:12] <|neo> none of them works
[11:13] <devie> lechter: or, if there were just icons, more like OS X
[11:13] <serenity> it's a great, and little scaring, step to leave your old os
[11:13] <|neo> it gives this messege The requested URL /testphp.php was not found on this server. then apers the sabe as box
[11:13] <devie> lechter: I found out how to make them not stretch, that's a start
[11:13] <untung> DBO: i tried to setup use at ubuntu terminal, still cannot open the folder from my xp
[11:13] <KenSentMe> |neo: wich one did you try first and have you completely deleted the old one?
[11:14] <|neo> yes
[11:14] <DBO> untung, did you enter the command "sudo smbpasswd -a <username>"?
[11:14] <untung> DBO: my XP doesnt recognize my ubuntu username and password
[11:14] <|neo> the 1s i tryed was the 1.3.33
[11:14] <|neo> the one that has the apache as a packege name
[11:14] <KenSentMe> |neo: did you install it with apt-get install?
[11:14] <untung> DBO, no  just smbpasswd -a
[11:14] <|neo> yes
[11:15] <untung> DBO, should i be able to use my ubuntu username and password to log into shared folder from XP
[11:15] <DBO> untung, "sudo smbpasswd -a <username>" then "smbpasswd"
[11:15] <KenSentMe> |neo: it could be that when you install apache2 it uses the config files from apache (1.3). So remove the apache with sudo apt-get --purge remove apache
[11:16] <DBO> untung, your samba password is different from your normal password
[11:16] <KenSentMe> |neo: this completely removes apache and the config files
[11:16] <DBO> untung, you have to set your samba password with the commands I gave you
[11:16] <|neo> kensentme: done
[11:16] <untung> DBO, at last it works! thanks for the tips
[11:16] <KenSentMe> |neo: then install apache2 again, if you have it installed, --purge it also and reinstall it
[11:18] <|neo> kensentme: done it same problem
[11:18] <KenSentMe> |neo: can you paste your apache2.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give me the link to your paste?
[11:19] <|neo> kensentme: yes no prob
[11:19] <feetboy16> with the nvidia drivers installed, im trying to get tv output according to the ubuntu wiki. i do as it says and make neccessary adjustments. but what i end up with is that the x window server fails to work again after restarting it. so i have to restore /etc/X11/xorg.conf back to its original setings and reinstall my nvidia drivers. any ideas?
[11:19] <dli> how to get the booting device manual of an "acer travelmate 352te" laptop ?
[11:20] <|neo> kensentme: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14377
[11:20] <_JP> gnomefreak: it happened again. the installation ran "grub install (hd0)" without asking anything (there is no other os's installed).
[11:20] <|neo> when i make the http://localhost/ on the borwser it tells this  The requested URL / was not found on this server.
[11:21] <gnomefreak> _JP: just one harddrive?
[11:21] <feetboy16> http://localhost/ doesnt look like a valid URL O_o
[11:21] <GTX> Hello, I'm using my ubuntu server as a router/firewall. I'm trying to enable multicast support on it so I can watch the new BBC channels on the internet, I've read up on google about this and tried everything but nothing is working, any ideas?
[11:21] <_JP> gnomefreak: yes
[11:21] <stjepan> gnomefreak, what about systray in thunderbird?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> _JP: than that is where it has to go
[11:21] <gnomefreak> stjepan: never used it
[11:22] <KenSentMe> |neo: i see no difference with my file, and mine does work
[11:22] <gordonjcp> right, I'm baffled
[11:22] <stjepan> how to start an app at a specific worskpace/desktop/viewport?
[11:22] <gordonjcp> in Ubuntu Dapper, how do I mount remote NFS shares?
[11:23] <|neo> kensentme: ooo crap...
[11:23] <KenSentMe> |neo: have you installed php4 too?
[11:23] <stjepan> gordonjcp, /join #ubuntu+1
[11:23] <KenSentMe> |neo: or php5
[11:23] <|neo> kensentme: yes
[11:23] <KenSentMe> |neo: does apache2 also makes you download php files?
[11:23] <ompaul>    <---that is what my login to mysql is producing, no idea how
[11:24] <|neo> kensentme: it dows the same with the .html files to
[11:24] <gordonjcp> stjepan: what's on that channel?
[11:24] <|neo> kensentme: yes with all of them
[11:24] <KenSentMe> |neo: have you installed  libapache2-mod-php4 or php5?
[11:24] <svefi> hello community, i've got a asus Z9240u notebook with wlan, how to get it work?
[11:25] <ompaul> ahh its my terminal
[11:25] <stjepan> gordonjcp, Ubuntu Dapper channel
[11:25] <|neo> kensentme: yes i have installed but if i make the a2enmod php4 it tells that was not found
[11:25] <gordonjcp> stjepan: cool
[11:27] <KenSentMe> |neo: sorry, but i don't know how to help you any further, in your apache2.conf everything seems fine. I've recently installed dapper with apache2, php5 and mysql and everything works like a charm
[11:27] <|neo> kensentme: mine never workd
[11:28] <|neo> kensentme: and i have a nother ubuntu instalation on a nother pc and its the same
[11:28] <spaz> hello all
[11:29] <KenSentMe> |neo: that's pretty weird. Did you install breezy or dapper?
[11:29] <spaz> has anyone tried xubuntu and is it any good?
[11:29] <|neo> breezy i think
[11:29] <|neo> i'm using the kubuntu one
[11:29] <spaz> how do you find it?
[11:29] <|neo> 5.10
[11:29] <GTX> Hello, I'm using my ubuntu server as a router/firewall. I'm trying to enable multicast support on it so I can watch the new BBC channels on the internet, I've read up on google about this and tried everything but nothing is working, any ideas?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> spaz: enable universe repo and run sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[11:30] <spaz> cool, ill have a go
[11:30] <gnomefreak> spaz: easy way to try it without downloading the iso
[11:30] <CaptainMorgan> gawd.. I love ubuntu
[11:30] <CaptainMorgan> !dapper
[11:30] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June when it is released :-) BUT not until then
[11:31] <spaz> cheers for that, see y alater
[11:34] <|neo> ist their other way to bypass this... !
[11:37] <disinterested_pe> ok yahoo.com has a linux version of messenger is it compatible with ubuntu?
[11:37] <ompaul> gnomefreak, I had a line by line shot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP there was one item where it failed on me, may be useful to consider this:   sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start  : after the initial part where there is no .htaccess or anything going on, or tomcat for that matter, also there is a step that is a little bit confusing I am looking at it, and considering an edit, but that is the first time that I have seen a complaint about it,
[11:37] <ompaul>  it is this: Installing MYSQL (with PHP 4) just look at the headings, while it looks okay it might be more readable if we moved some of the order around
[11:37] <mikeb> disinterested_pe, linky?
[11:37] <misterj> #join #ubuntu-fr
[11:37] <misterj> sorry lol
[11:37] <disinterested_pe> u want the link?
[11:38] <mikeb> please
[11:38] <disinterested_pe> ok h/o
[11:38] <ferronica> help
[11:38] <ferronica> please
[11:38] <mikeb> ferronica, with....
[11:38] <DBO> !help
[11:38] <ferronica> i messed up with my ADSL modem
[11:38] <|neo> kensentme: are you using the kubuntu to ?!
[11:38] <ferronica> mikeb
[11:38] <mikeb> ferronica, the reset button on the back?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> ferronica: you know thee rules by now if not please /msg ubotu helpme
[11:38] <ferronica> mikeb: internet is not working
[11:39] <disinterested_pe> http://messenger.yahoo.com
[11:40] <mikeb> thanks
[11:40] <gnomefreak> ompaul: what part on it?
[11:41] <ompaul> gnomefreak, first off in terms of order: Installing PHP 5 << that heading should it move down to the end of that section below the mysql with php4
[11:41] <disinterested_pe> i cant get the installation instructions to do anything for it mikeb
[11:41] <mikeb> disinterested_pe, it will work under ubuntu
[11:41] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: help
[11:41] <misterj> Hello A link for MRTG Doc please ????
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ompaul: yes it should lol omg i didnt see that
[11:42] <mikeb> disinterested_pe, but have you given gaim a try?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ompaul: are you in the editor?
[11:42] <|neo> did any one had problems with apache2 isntalation !
[11:42] <ferronica1> gnomefreak: hello
[11:42] <disinterested_pe> do u got any ideas how to install it?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: what would you like today?
[11:42] <mikeb> disinterested_pe, download http://download.yahoo.com/dl/unix/ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[11:42] <mikeb> disinterested_pe, dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ferronica1: your dsl cant be too messed up your online as we speak
[11:43] <KenSentMe> |neo: no, i use gnome and an other system without desktop. But they are both dapper installations
[11:43] <alek> hi
[11:43] <|neo> kensentme: what is the difrence !?
[11:43] <mikeb> alek, Y Helo Thar.
[11:43] <disinterested_pe> the one that downloads is gtkhtml-2.8tar.bz2
[11:44] <KenSentMe> !dapper
[11:44] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until than
[11:44] <disinterested_pe> .tar
[11:44] <KenSentMe> |neo: dapper is the new version of ubuntu that comes out on june 1st
[11:44] <mikeb> disinterested_pe, no, don't get that one
[11:44] <mikeb> disinterested_pe, i pasted you the link just before
[11:44] <|neo> kensentme: oooo i hope i have no mor problems
[11:45] <disinterested_pe> im not getting the link to open
[11:45] <|neo> kensentme: i'm very mad whit this i have a presentation on my school tomorow and i realy nead it working
[11:45] <ferronica2> gnomefreak: will u listen me
[11:46] <KenSentMe> |neo: it's very strange that it doesn't work out of the box
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ferronica2: ask the channel i cant be in 6 places at once
[11:47] <eumario> Sure you can gnomefreak. ;-)
[11:48] <disinterested_pe> mikeb u still here?
[11:48] <|neo> kensentme: by this time i cant realy think becase their is no refernece of the module of php in the apache dir...
[11:48] <mikeb> disinterested_pe, yeah
[11:49] <disinterested_pe> ok its what do i extract?
[11:49] <|neo> kensentme: and a lots of the dir's are empy
[11:49] <mikeb> disinterested_pe, don't extract anything
[11:49] <gnomefreak> ferronica2: what seems to be the issue you said your adsl is messed up? how ar eyou here?
[11:49] <|neo> kensentme: i think the apt-get is not woking propely
[11:49] <KenSentMe> |neo: which dirs?
[11:49] <disinterested_pe> ok how do i install it
[11:49] <mikeb> disinterested_pe, you save the file somewhere, open a terminal and then, as root, type dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[11:49] <disinterested_pe> ok
[11:50] <|neo> kensentme: modes-availiable modes-enabled conf.d sites-available sites-enabled
[11:50] <|neo> kensentme: thows are empty
[11:50] <cipi604> ymessenger sux
[11:51] <KenSentMe> |neo: that's strange, but mine all have files in them
[11:51] <alek> I have notebook with PCMCIA cdrom driver and it can't boot from CD so is there any way to run ubuntu setup from MSDOS command line?
[11:51] <eumario> They haven't updated YMessenger for Linux in ages.
[11:51] <disinterested_pe> ok thats done
[11:52] <KenSentMe> |neo: do you have a system where you can test an installation on. Maybe we can install a clean system together and see what goes wrong
[11:52] <|neo> kensentme: you gave me the comand to remove the apache i have executed that ant i still have the /etc/apache directory
[11:52] <disinterested_pe> now it says something about piping it through`less' or `more'?
[11:53] <KenSentMe> |neo: and what is in that /etc/apache dir?
[11:53] <|neo> kensentme: every thing that was wen it was intalld
[11:54] <disinterested_pe> mikeb?
[11:54] <mikeb> disinterested_pe, erhh
[11:54] <mikeb> disinterested_pe, what does it say exactly?
[11:54] <disinterested_pe> sorry
[11:55] <KenSentMe> |neo: can you do a clean install like i suggested?
[11:55] <disinterested_pe> options marked[*]  produce alot of out put and piping it through less or more
[11:55] <|neo> i alredy made that
[11:55] <|neo> in this computer that i have here
[11:56] <|neo> the one i do the testing
[11:56] <|neo> and its the same
[11:57] <drcode> hi all
[11:57] <drcode> mybe somone know
[11:57] <disinterested_pe> wb linux galore
[11:57] <|neo> kensentme: i'm doing it on the other computer for the 3 time
[11:58] <KenSentMe> |neo: and there you install apache2 without installing apache first?
[11:58] <|neo> yes
[11:58] <gnomefreak> ompaul: you scared me i thought i unbanned all them :(
[11:58] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:59] <disinterested_pe> hey linux do u know how id install the linux version of yahoo messenger?
[11:59] <alek> I have notebook with PCMCIA cdrom driver and it can't boot from CD so is there any way to run ubuntu setup from MSDOS command line?
[12:00] <feetboy16> why would you want the linux version of yahoo? its so old that the unofficial clients surpass it O_o
[12:00] <|neo> kensentme: yes but i allways have to unistall some debian webserver
[12:00] <KenSentMe> |neo: what do you mean?
[12:01] <|neo> by defaul i comes with a wered web server that i cant remenber the name
[12:01] <dac9cccc> where is nautils located?
[12:02] <KenSentMe> |neo: that's strange
[12:02] <gnomefreak> dac9cccc: places>home
[12:02] <dac9cccc> thanks
[12:02] <ferronica> gnomefreak:will u please help me out
[12:03] <gnomefreak> ferronica: you still havent told me what is wrong
[12:03] <dac9cccc> I cant figure out how to use nautils so i can copy files into my www directory?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> if you cant tell me i cant help you
[12:03] <KenSentMe> |neo: and is it uninstalled automaticly?
[12:04] <ferronica> gnomefreak: actually i messed up
[12:04] <DBO> dac9cccc, did you start nautilus as root?
[12:04] <dac9cccc> i cant find where it is
[12:04] <DBO> dac9cccc, start it from a terminal "sudo nautilus"
[12:04] <ferronica> gnomefreak: wget -c http://easylinux.info/uploads/rp-pppoe-3.6.tar.gz
[12:05] <gnomefreak> wth is easy linux?
[12:05] <|neo> kensentme: no
[12:05] <ferronica> gnomefreak: i hav installed this
[12:05] <DBO> dac9cccc, once again, be very careful when using nautilus as root
[12:05] <|neo> kensentme: y have to doit by the apt-get
[12:05] <disinterested_pe> linux_galore u there?
[12:05] <ferronica> gnomefreak: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Broadband_ADSL.2FPPPoE_Client_.28RP-PPPoE.29
[12:05] <KenSentMe> |neo: i'm very curious about the package name
[12:05] <ferronica> gnomefreak: open this site
[12:05] <gnomefreak> ferronica: what is easy linux and why did you isntall it?
[12:06] <ferronica> gnomefreak: i just did sorry
[12:06] <ferronica> gnomefreak: :(
[12:06] <dac9cccc> ok thanks
[12:07] <ferronica> gnomefreak: so, i installed it vis terminal, and now my internet is not working sometime, it get slow very slow get disconnected
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ferronica: try removing it
[12:07] <disinterested_pe> im just happy to have stream link back lol
[12:07] <ferronica> gnomefreak: i hav ADSL modem
[12:07] <ferronica> gnomefreak: i use it on phone line
[12:07] <|neo> im not shore but i think is the yaws or the roxen
[12:08] <|neo> someting
[12:08] <ompaul> ferronica, you had dsl working before?
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ferronica: and this started after you installed easylinux?
[12:08] <ferronica> gnomefreak: before that it works fine,
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ferronica: remove easylinux
[12:09] <ferronica> gnomefreak: to setup my ADSL someone given me this command---pppoeconf
[12:09] <KenSentMe> |neo: is it necessary that you install kde, or is it enough to install only webserver stuff?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> ferronica: im not understanding the issue (remove easylinux) all goes back to normal
[12:10] <|neo> kensentme: this is my laptop
[12:11] <ferronica> gnomefreak: how to remove it from where???
[12:11] <gnomefreak> ferronica: i dont know i didnt install it (check the site you got it from) i dont know how you installed it either
[12:11] <|neo> kensentme: this is the laptop that i make my works i usualy go to the school whith it because the presentations so it is neaded some X
[12:11] <KenSentMe> |neo: ah, ok. Maybe you should try installing ubuntu on your other system without desktop. So instead of hitting enter when cd install cd boots, type server. Ubuntu install with only the packages it needs to run
[12:11] <ferronica> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Broadband_ADSL.2FPPPoE_Client_.28RP-PPPoE.29
[12:11] <gnomefreak> ferronica: when you ran make install ort checkinstall it should have told you where it saved to
[12:11] <ferronica> gnomefreak: this is the website
[12:11] <ompaul> ferronica, you had a working install, you broke it, you need to restore the original configuration, so I suggest that if you have not got it backed up you may face a reinstall, you edited files we don't know what you used to have in them
[12:12] <|neo> kensentme: i tring that on the testing computer
[12:12] <|neo> kensentme: just a pare of minits
[12:12] <ferronica> gnomefreak: so what to do
[12:12] <KenSentMe> |neo: and then tell me what you do to install the webserver
[12:13] <alek> how to find installed package in my computer? (without knowing its exact name)
[12:13] <KenSentMe> by the way, why do i sometimes get [12:12]  * gnomefreak in irc. Without anything else?
[12:13] <ferronica> ompaul: i used pppoeconf command first time to use my ADSL modem
[12:13] <|neo> i have rund the cd typed server on the boot seected the language to en the keyborad to portuguese the time zone
[12:14] <|neo> now is making the unpack
[12:14] <|neo> again
[12:14] <|neo> 1 boot
[12:14] <Neuro--> hello
[12:14] <Neuro--> i need help
[12:14] <ompaul> !helpme
[12:14] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[12:14] <disinterested_pe> i still cant get yahoo messenger to install any help?
[12:14] <Neuro--> i use live edition....
[12:15] <Neuro--> and...i don`t know what is password for root user
[12:15] <ompaul> ferronica, you should actually try system administration networking and click on your modem from there,
[12:15] <ompaul> !root
[12:15] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:15] <ompaul> Neuro--, ^^^
[12:15] <|neo> neo@nebuchadnezzar:/etc$ /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[12:15] <|neo>  * Forcing reload of web server  (Apache2)...                                              httpd (pid 1727?) not running
[12:15] <ompaul> Neuro--, on the live cd there is no password sudo -i if you want a root terminal
[12:15] <|neo> lol
[12:16] <|neo> it freezed
[12:16] <ompaul> |neo, why not make it just stop and then start?
[12:16] <|neo> faild :P to start
[12:16] <KenSentMe> |neo: but you have installed apache2 already on that machine?
[12:16] <|neo> yes
[12:16] <KenSentMe> |neo: it's sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[12:16] <KenSentMe> |neo: use sudo
[12:17] <gnomefreak> ferronica: on that page you gave me open that file again and take out what you placed in there and than log off and back on
[12:17] <KenSentMe> |neo: i thought you just said that you made a clean install?
[12:17] <ferronica> gnomefreak: what
[12:17] <|neo> KenSentMe: i have more than 1 computer wen you sad to try a freesh intall i have startd to do it
[12:18] <ompaul> ferronica, you were told the same thing as I told you already,
[12:18] <KenSentMe> |neo: ah, ok
[12:18] <KenSentMe> |neo: but with sudo you can restart apache2?
[12:18] <ferronica> ompaul: OKAY
[12:18] <|neo> KenSentMe: yes yes
[12:18] <ompaul> ferronica, I have told you before about caps lock
[12:18] <ferronica> ompaul: right now i am using my ADSL modem
[12:18] <|neo> KenSentMe: i have folowed the steps of the wiki
[12:19] <ompaul> ferronica, great, then you can enjoy it, if your running slow it might be your supplier
[12:19] <|neo> KenSentMe: i must be runing crasy .... do i have to tell it again !
[12:20] <ferronica> ompaul: how to uninstall that file
[12:20] <|neo> KenSentMe: it must be some thing rong
[12:20] <ferronica> ompaul: that i downloded
[12:20] <ompaul> ferronica, I don't know what it did, so if you do not know then you should maybe consider a reinstall
[12:20] <KenSentMe> |neo: how far is your system that you installed with the server option?
[12:21] <|neo> http://192.168.1.3/apache2-default/
[12:21] <|neo> its im my localarea network
[12:21] <|neo> its one of my 4 cmputers
[12:22] <|neo> http://192.168.1.3/apache2-default/ this page it tels that is not fond on the server
[12:22] <|neo> but is in the /var/www
[12:22] <ompaul> |neo, then you have apache 2 intsalled I just used that web page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP  at the very end I just had to issue a start cos a restart did not seem to work for me but other than that it was perfect
[12:22] <disinterested_pe> when i try to install y messenger i get options marked [*]  produce alot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' ?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: | less or | more the | is a pipe
[12:23] <disinterested_pe> ok how do i do this?
[12:23] <twb`> What does "Install in OEM mode" mean?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: what is the command?
[12:24] <ompaul> twb`, it is for places that want to send out the machines in a pre installed fashion
[12:24] <gnomefreak> twb`: please ask dapper questions in #ubuntu+1
[12:24] <twb`> gnomefreak: righto.
[12:25] <disinterested_pe> dpkg -1 ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[12:25] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: sudo dpkg -i not -1
[12:25] <disinterested_pe> ok ty i'll try it
[12:25] <|neo> KenSentMe: i do thank you for your help realy thanks for your time but looks like a lost case
[12:25] <KenSentMe> |neo: good luck then with your presentation
[12:26] <|neo> KenSentMe: i cant do it whit out the server LOL
[12:27] <|neo> KenSentMe: i'm going to cancel it what the hell one bad grade will not kill me
[12:27] <disinterested_pe> dpkg-i not found
[12:27] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: sudo dpkg -i
[12:27] <gnomefreak> not sudo dpkg-i
[12:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell disinterested_pe about deb
[12:28] <disinterested_pe> thats what i typed is sudo dpkg -i
[12:29] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: it has to be found dpkg is installed by default and if i had to guess you really cant remove it (sure you could) but not the best idea and you will know when you try to remove it
[12:29] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[12:29] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: type that in terminal
[12:29] <edno> hello
[12:30] <edno> is it possible to get the ubuntu kernel source tree, with all patches?
[12:30] <disinterested_pe> ok
[12:30] <dli> edno, sudo apt-get install linux-source
[12:30] <dli> edno, apt-get will found it for you
[12:31] <gnomefreak> what the
[12:31] <edno> dli, does it include patches?
[12:31] <dli> edno, the source of ubuntu kernel, yes, including ubuntu patches
[12:32] <edno> and what if I don't want to use apt?
[12:32] <edno> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/linux-source-2.6.12 ???
[12:32] <disinterested_pe> ok it says dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[12:33] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: your not using sudo use sudo if you are than use the right password
[12:33] <disinterested_pe> ok i'll try that
[12:34] <leopard10> how to play mp3 in xubuntu with xfmedia?
[12:35] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell leopard10 -about mp3
[12:35] <geniusvicks> is there any handwriting recognition technology for ubuntu
[12:35] <F0LL0W3R> !perl
[12:35] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, F0LL0W3R
[12:35] <gnomefreak> F0LL0W3R: stop that now
[12:36] <F0LL0W3R> gnomefreak Stop what :S
[12:36] <ompaul> F0LL0W3R, you will use /msg ubotu keyword
[12:36] <gnomefreak> F0LL0W3R: you know whaat
[12:36] <F0LL0W3R> k
[12:36] <geniusvicks> i.e. if I write something on the screen using mouse can that be converted into text
[12:36] <F0LL0W3R> sorry
[12:36] <gnomefreak> F0LL0W3R: every time you come in here you do same thing over and over again
[12:36] <freemanen> anyone how knows a exact link to ubuntu dapper daily build download? my browsers and dpkg dose't work so i would like to download it a make a new copy
[12:36] <F0LL0W3R> gnomefreak am just like people come to search som things
[12:36] <F0LL0W3R> :S
[12:36] <F0LL0W3R> not more gnomefreak
[12:37] <disinterested_pe> it says error processing ymessengeryada yada install cannot access archive: no such file or directory
[12:37] <gnomefreak> F0LL0W3R: use the /msg ubotu commands
[12:37] <F0LL0W3R> gnomefreak k i got it
[12:37] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: its really more trouble than its worth why not use gaim?
[12:37] <geniusvicks> can I give an alais to a programme?
[12:37] <disinterested_pe> i cant get into any rooms from there
[12:38] <Abou> geniusvicks, you mean like alias name="program -switches"
[12:38] <ompaul> disinterested_pe, /join #NameOfRoom
[12:38] <geniusvicks> like in yahoo if I click the yahoo messenger icon firefox says "no such programme as ymsgr" or something like that
[12:38] <gnomefreak> ompaul: not from gain/yahoo
[12:39] <ompaul> who wants to use that stuff :-)
[12:39] <geniusvicks> so i was thinking if I gave an alais to GAIM as ymsgr
[12:39] <geniusvicks> then it would work
[12:39] <disinterested_pe> ok i'll try that tyvm
[12:40] <F0LL0W3R> gnomefreak could you plz then tell me how i can open Perl or Paython code with terminal ?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> F0LL0W3R: python file.py
[12:40] <gnomefreak> F0LL0W3R: perl file.whateverperls.is
[12:41] <F0LL0W3R> k thanks very muchhhh
[12:41] <Abou> geniusvicks, I don't know if alias is what you're searching for, you could use symbolic try something like that link, ln -s /path/to/gaim /usr/bin/ymsgr
[12:41] <leopard10> i can't download libxine-extracodecs from [sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs] ...
[12:41] <erofee> hi all
[12:42] <geniusvicks> ok
[12:42] <erofee> can anyone tell me where to find a good guide to setup gnome and KDE side by side?
[12:43] <ompaul> gnomefreak, .pl usually but it does not have to be
[12:43] <erofee> was that for me ompaul?
[12:43] <gnomefreak> ompaul: yeah i thought about that
[12:44] <erofee> sorry, my bad
[12:44] <ompaul> erofee, ehh no this is: which have you got installed first? in ubuntu the best way to do the other is >> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop << and the other is ubuntu-desktop if you installed kubuntu
[12:44] <Abou> openoffice programs don't run unless I use sudo to start them, If I click on a spreadsheet or document or try to start anyone of the programs from the menu it doesn't start, anyone knows what's causing this
[12:44] <gnomefreak> erofee: if you mean side by side as in both at same time i dont htink you can
[12:45] <ompaul> Abou, get the permissions of the file, >>ls -l filename<<  in a terminal
[12:45] <gnomefreak> Abou: are you logged in to gnome/kde as root?
[12:45] <erofee> i have kubuntu installed.
[12:45] <gnomefreak> erofee: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:46] <ompaul> erofee, >> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop <<  and away you go
[12:46] <erofee> so if i install it, how do i then boot from KDE to gnome?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> erofee: the login screen
[12:46] <ompaul> erofee, the window manager will allow you choose
[12:46] <gnomefreak> erofee: click sessions on the loginscreen
[12:46] <erofee> so the login screen will give me the option.
[12:46] <erofee> cool.
[12:46] <erofee> thought i might have to learn about grub files.
[12:46] <Abou> gnomefreak, gnome (but I did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop) - in fact all this happened after I installed kde next to gnome
[12:47] <ompaul> erofee, this is not perverse like some operating systems
[12:47] <Abou> ampaul, which filename you mean?
[12:47] <erofee> thanks a lot everyone, you've been a big help.
[12:47] <ompaul> Abou, the one you want to open
[12:47] <erofee> yeah, getting to learn that, switched from winxp
[12:48] <gnomefreak> Abou: did you log in as normal user or are you logged in as root?
[12:48] <disinterested_pe> ubuntu is pretty neat despite of having to learn all of the stuff about it
[12:48] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: same as windows (you have to learn it before you can use it comforably
[12:48] <ompaul> disinterested_pe, celebrate your mind being free
[12:48] <Abou> ompaul: these are the access writes: -rw-r--r--  1 root    root     13824 2006-05-20 05:56 plan_andrew_version2.xls
[12:49] <disinterested_pe> yeah im finding that out windows is more plug and play though
[12:49] <gnomefreak> most people grew up using windows so you had 10 years to learn it
[12:49] <Abou> gnomefreak: I'm logged in as a user (with sudo permission)
[12:49] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: plug and play is one of winodws biggest issues lol
[12:49] <ompaul> Abou, so your problem is this, you need to change the ownership of the file do this
[12:49] <disinterested_pe> whats the difference about if ur logged in as root or other?
[12:49] <erofee> i make a point of learning how to do one thing in linux that i used to be able to do in winxp every week.
[12:50] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: big difference
[12:50] <ompaul> Abou, sudo chown yourusername:yourusername plan_and*     <<< do that
[12:50] <disinterested_pe> yeah
[12:50] <ompaul> !tell disinterested_pe about root
[12:50] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: logging in as root is dangerous
[12:51] <Abou> ompaul, suppose I don't want to open any particular file, it doesn't work  if I start any open office program from the menu
[12:51] <disinterested_pe> and with all the patches windows has to use its really a joke
[12:51] <ompaul> disinterested_pe, its the fastest way to break your machine, if your new, and do the same if you have over 10 years knowledge
[12:51] <disinterested_pe> ok just wondering thats all
[12:51] <mikeb> but breaking stuff is the best way to learn
[12:51] <ompaul> Abou, can you start OOcalc from the command line as yourself?
[12:51] <erofee> heys guys... have a problem
[12:51] <erofee> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:51] <erofee>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: evince but it is not going to be installed
[12:51] <erofee> E: Broken packages
[12:51] <erofee> erofee@yoda:~$
[12:51] <mikeb> thats why you use the development release :-P~
[12:51] <Abou> ompaul no.. only with sudo
[12:51] <ompaul> mikeb, I don't concur
[12:52] <gnomefreak> erofee: dont paste in here and type sudo apt-get -f install
[12:52] <ompaul> Abou, you seem to have a broken machine in that case
[12:52] <mikeb> you don't think that is the best way to learn?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> mikeb: no its not
[12:52] <ompaul> mikeb, no you can be more productive if you learn properly from the ground up
[12:52] <disinterested_pe> im suprised there is no linux repair places in this town too
[12:53] <Abou> ompaul, only open office,   it says "Error in function createUserSettingsDocument"
[12:53] <mikeb> ompaul, hehe, i suppose
[12:53] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: join a lug ;)
[12:53] <alek> can I build FFD linux with linuxfromscratch?
[12:53] <disinterested_pe> ok how do u do that lol
[12:53] <gnomefreak> alek: we are ubuntu not lfs
[12:54] <leopard10> how to get libxine-extracodecs?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: search web for a lug in your area (lug = linux user group)
[12:54] <ompaul> Abou, do this chown -R username:username .openoffice.org2
[12:54] <disinterested_pe> ok ty
[12:54] <gnomefreak> leopard10: enable multiverse and universe than sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[12:55] <ompaul> mikeb, now there is a case in point, if Abou had known about permissions OO would not be broken
[12:55] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: they will moore likely be inclided to have you fix it as are we
[12:55] <leopard10> gnomefreak: thx, try
[12:55] <gnomefreak> leopard10: yw
[12:55] <disinterested_pe> im wondering if since i installed easyubuntu if my dvd drive will operate now
[12:56] <wzpr> hi all :] 
[12:56] <disinterested_pe> i take it ubuntu wont use nero?
[12:56] <F0LL0W3R> gnomefreak is the command for install KDE in ubuntu sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> disinterested_pe: i highly doubt easyubuntu has anything to do with your dvd rom
[12:56] <ompaul> Abou, have a look at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions
[12:56] <wzpr> don't suppose anyone could advise on installing i386 WINE with amd64 ubuntu?
[12:56] <mikeb> ompaul, :-)
[12:56] <ompaul> !tell wzpr about chroot
[12:56] <gnomefreak> F0LL0W3R: either i perfer aptitude for -desktops because if i need to remove it apotitude will remove it all apt-get wont
[12:57] <disinterested_pe> gnome freak it did install a new player buy idk im new to this
[12:57] <disinterested_pe> but
[12:57] <F0LL0W3R> gnomefreak gr8888 thnx
[12:57] <blue-frog> disinterested_pe, if you have purchased nero for widows you can download nero for linux
[12:57] <Abou> ompaul, that was it! cheers..
[12:57] <gnomefreak> blue-frog: its free than?
[12:57] <disinterested_pe> is it next to impossible to install?
[12:57] <blue-frog> it's free if you have purchased nero for windows
[12:58] <ompaul> Abou, have you many files you use with OOo
[12:58] <gnomefreak> sweet ;)
[12:58] <blue-frog> but k3b will certainly work better than nero for linux..
[12:58] <F0LL0W3R> gnomefreak and if i want reset it again to Gnome use sudo aptitude gnome-desktop right ?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> F0LL0W3R: no
[12:59] <gnomefreak> F0LL0W3R: choose what you want to log into on the login screen
[12:59] <F0LL0W3R> aha
[12:59] <F0LL0W3R> WonderFul !
[12:59] <mikeb> gnomefreak, i thought you would've been a gnomebaker kinda guy
[12:59] <gnomefreak> mikeb: nope didnt like it ata ll
[12:59] <ompaul> Abou, your going to have to give them the right permissions to be opened
[12:59] <disinterested_pe> so is there any spyware programs for linux that work?
[12:59] <blue-frog> no
[12:59] <mikeb> disinterested_pe, there is no spyware on linux
[12:59] <lerch> Hi, I have a question concerning the appearance of some application windows in gnome, do I direct that here?
[01:00] <Abou> ompaul, I understand what permissions are, it was only figuring out why oo needed root permissions, I think what happened is I used oo the first time to access some file owned by root,so I used sudo, and so oo created the .openoffice.org2 with root as owner and no access rights to others...
[01:00] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:00] <disinterested_pe> ok
[01:00] <ompaul> Abou, that would be it
[01:00] <disinterested_pe> i bet theres viruses though
[01:00] <Abou> ompaul, thanks
[01:00] <ompaul> disinterested_pe, no
[01:00] <mikeb> disinterested_pe, i havn't seen any, nor have i been infected
[01:00] <blue-frog> disinterested_pe, not yet
[01:00] <disinterested_pe> so does fire fox block that stuff?
[01:01] <wzpr> another quick question; how dangerous is it to run ubuntu under root rather than a regular user running sudo ?
[01:01] <mikeb> disinterested_pe, there is nothing to block.... linux doesn't work like doze
[01:01] <ompaul> disinterested_pe, there was one for redhat a few years ago but nothing for ubuntu - and no its not firefoxes job, please read www.securityfocus.com and search for "linux virus" its a different paradigim
[01:01] <joedj> wzpr: running as root all the time is quite dangerous
[01:01] <Abou> wzpr, it can make your errors .. system wide
[01:01] <mikeb> wzpr, if you don't know what your doing... yah
[01:01] <ompaul> Abou /me rofl :-)
[01:01] <disinterested_pe> thx ompaul
[01:01] <joedj> wzpr: switching to root when you need to do an administrative task or using sudo is pretty much the same
[01:02] <Abou> ompaul, what's that? (Abou /me rofl :-)
[01:02] <blue-frog> disinterested_pe, you have rootkits but unless you run funky programs you don't know downloaded from unknown places, linux box is pretty much safe
[01:02] <disinterested_pe> so basically if u mess ur pc up its all ur own fault
[01:02] <ompaul> joedj, its not, switching to root means you do everything as root while it is open - not a good call
[01:02] <LoPMX> hi
[01:02] <ompaul> joedj, cd etc
[01:03] <LoPMX> can i get quicktime movies played in ubuntu?
[01:03] <ompaul> Abou, ehh your telling him, given our chat :-)
[01:03] <ompaul> Abou, rofl roll over floor laughing
[01:03] <lerch> Some windows in gnome, like the "jump to file" window in xmms, doesn't seam to fully inherit the appearance settings adjusted through the theme manager, any idea why?
[01:03] <HunterZ> hi
[01:04] <masked> anyone had a problem with gxine not finding cook.so.6?
[01:04] <blue-frog> wzpr runnning linux as root is as a bad idea as running windows as administrator
[01:04] <masked> if so anyone know why and how to fix it?
[01:04] <wzpr> really? I run windows as admin on my other PC but not root on here
[01:04] <disinterested_pe> so whats going to be different in the new release in ububtu?
[01:04] <joedj> ompaul: i'm not referring to user error so much as program vulnerabilities
[01:04] <leopard10> HunterZ: try mplayer
[01:04] <disinterested_pe> ubuntu
[01:05] <joedj> ompaul: e.g. running your IRC client/browser as root
[01:05] <masked> leopard10, you mean me?
[01:05] <Abou> ompaul, I have some (basic) unix knowledge, i only need help running the new applications ... :-)
[01:05] <masked> im downloading mplayer as we speak
[01:05] <masked> gxine, vlc and totem are having problems playing dvds
[01:05] <masked> i hope mplayer works
[01:06] <leopard10> masked: i'm talk to HunterZ.. :)
[01:06] <Abou> ompaul, in answering the questions I know, I feel I pay back for the help I get ;-0
[01:06] <disinterested_pe> so where are most of us?
[01:06] <ompaul> joedj, as we deal with a lot of converts we tend to point people to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo as it explains the logic of sudo and how to use it, :-)
[01:06] <HunterZ> leopard10 why i try mplayer?
[01:06] <Phlosten> masked, what problems?
[01:07] <ompaul> disinterested_pe, this is not your average chat room, its ubuntu help if you want to chat we have such a channel, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:07] <masked> Phlosten, gets to the language selection screen for the dvd then carks it
[01:07] <leopard10> HunterZ: mplayer can play .mov
[01:07] <disinterested_pe> well guys and gals i need sleep ty for the info
[01:07] <ompaul> Abou, crystal clear ... ;-)
[01:09] <masked> Phlosten, mplayer doesn't work either
[01:10] <joedj> ompaul: yeah, it would be nice if that page also mentioned the type of issues i'm talking about as another reason to use sudo. perhaps when i'm not so lazy i will update it =P
[01:10] <masked> its definatly distro specific it worked fine when i compiled gnu/linux from source.
[01:10] <gnomefreak> blue-frog: for nero4linux i want the trial version (does it ask for keycode) or is there a different download?
[01:10] <blue-frog> I don't know am not using nero
[01:10] <joedj> ompaul: or rather, as another reason not to run programs as root unless necessary
[01:10] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[01:11] <Abou> gnomefreak, what do we usually use for cd writting in ubuntu?
[01:12] <gnomefreak> Abou: i use k3b
[01:12] <gnomefreak> im gonna need wine :( forget it its not worth it :(
[01:12] <lerch> can I get Gaim/irc specific information in here?
[01:12] <Phlosten> masked, is it a commercial dvd?
[01:13] <masked> Phlosten, yes.
[01:13] <bony> hi all just now i configured my keyboard shortcut's and i assigned ctl+up for volume up and down for volume down but i even assigned left and right to play and pause respectively. After playing for some time i resumed my work which i was doing in screem and found that left and right key's are not working even while typeing this text i couldn't move either right nor left. please help me cause this will ruin my life if it continues like this
[01:13] <bony>  i am using gnome 2.14 and the os is dapper drake
[01:13] <bony> i disabled the left and right key assignments even then i am unable to use them
[01:13] <Phlosten> masked, I am guessing you have installed neccessary css decryption codecs?
[01:13] <bony>  what i can do with left and right arrow key's is to switch between virtual desktops that's it
[01:13] <masked> Phlosten, yes
[01:14] <pvd2006> how can you resize a partition in linux?
[01:14] <ompaul> bony, please go to #ubuntu+1 for conversations about dapper as it is the channel for alpha and beta software
[01:14] <joedj> pvd2006: GNU parted can do it for some filesystem types, IIRC
[01:14] <masked> Phlosten, it plays the Universal theme intro, goes to language selection then stops.
[01:14] <bony> ompaul, oo thanks for suggesion
[01:14] <Abou> pvd2006, try parted
[01:15] <Phlosten> masked, very odd
[01:15] <ompaul> bony, yw
[01:15] <pvd2006> alright parted it is
[01:15] <masked> Phlosten, do you know what cook.so.6 is for?
[01:15] <gnomefreak> there is a .deb ;)
[01:15] <Phlosten> masked, not sure, have you tried starting it from the command line to get an error code?
[01:16] <jpjacobs> masked: maybe try installing  libdvdcss.
[01:16] <masked> gxine asks for it and dvr3.so.6
[01:16] <masked> jpjacobs, already have
[01:16] <lerch> How do I automatically join this channel when I log on IRC? I use Gaim.
[01:17] <zeeble> hello
[01:17] <jpjacobs> lerch: add a chat into your buddylist , this channel, then right click on it, there should be a autojoin option.
[01:17] <ompaul> lerch, depends on what client your using, as there are sevearl
[01:17] <masked> jpjacobs, well libdvdread that was
[01:17] <masked> jpjacobs, will that suffice?
[01:17] <ompaul> ohh
[01:17] <gnomefreak> ompaul: he said gaim
[01:17] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:17] <thomas> Hello
[01:17] <ompaul> gnomefreak, D'oh!^4
[01:18] <gnomefreak> ;)
[01:18] <thomas> Hello
[01:18] <ompaul> thomas, be happy if you don't get 700 replies :-)
[01:18] <thomas> Hallo everybery
[01:18] <pvd2006> alright, I have a 2nd hard disk which is 120gigs that has no os installed on it, instead I am using it for a backup drive so if I want to resize it to put 10gigs at the end of it I just resize the current partition to -10gigs right?
[01:18] <jpjacobs> masked: dunno, but i needed  libdvdcss in order to get subtitles working. It's something to read encrypted DVD's I thought that perhaps that's your case
[01:18] <thomas> I like pizza
[01:19] <thomas> Hallo
[01:19] <gnomefreak> !dvd
[01:19] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[01:19] <masked> jpjacobs, libdvdread is supposed to do that
[01:19] <masked> Phlosten, *** libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:928 ***
[01:19] <masked> *** for vts_ptt_srpt->nr_of_srpts < 100 ***
[01:19] <masked> libdvdnav: ifoRead_VTS_PTT_SRPT failed
[01:19] <ompaul> thomas, no ubuntu questions?
[01:19] <zeeble> thomas: everyone likes pizza. how is it relevant?
[01:19] <gnomefreak> libdvdcss is to read them
[01:19] <thomas> What`s you homepage
[01:19] <thomas> ?
[01:19] <masked> gnomefreak, thanks
[01:19] <gnomefreak> nope sorry css is for encryption
[01:19] <jpjacobs> thomas apt-get order pizza ;)
[01:20] <gnomefreak> dvdread reads them but i suggest you get both you will need them both im sure
[01:21] <lerch> jpjacobs: thanks for the reply. I already added a chat to the autojoin, namely irc.freenode.org which it autojoins just fine, I'll try adding the channel aswell.
[01:23] <saftsack> hi
[01:24] <saftsack> i heard that there is a release every 6 months. are there software updates with apt-get between this releases?
[01:24] <pvd2006> well I guess trying to run parted on a NTFS based hard drive is pointless?
[01:24] <masked> gnomefreak, still doesn't work.
[01:24] <gnomefreak> masked: what are you trying to do watch a dvd?
[01:24] <masked> yep
[01:25] <gnomefreak> masked: did you use the region set command?
[01:25] <masked> no
[01:25] <gnomefreak> !restricted
[01:25] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:25] <masked> i installed the tool
[01:25] <joedj> saftsack: there are, they seem to be fairly limited though. i'm not sure what the policy is - maybe just security updates
[01:25] <gnomefreak> masked: go there and read the dvd part
[01:25] <masked> but its aleady set to the right region
[01:25] <masked> so i didin't bother changing it
[01:25] <masked> gnomefreak, already have read it.
[01:25] <joedj> saftsack: e.g. Breezy still has ruby 1.8.3, which is widely accepted as unacceptable quality
[01:26] <tin_nqn> hello
[01:27] <saftsack> ok because i heard that there is xgl in ubuntu
[01:27] <Subhuman> saftsack, in dapper there is.
[01:27] <tin_nqn> How could I know a list of websites hosted by a determined host server?
[01:28] <Subhuman> saftsack, join #ubuntu+1 to discuss dapper.
[01:28] <joedj> tin_nqn: email the webmaster politely =P
[01:28] <Eons> does anybody knows how to set up a konica minolta magicolor 2300w printer with m2300w drivers?
[01:28] <saftsack> Subhuman, ok but in ubuntu there isnt apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:28] <tin_nqn> ok.. this is a good answer. There is another one?
[01:28] <joedj> saftsack: there is
[01:28] <Subhuman> yes there is.
[01:28] <tin_nqn> may be whois by dns ... I don't know
[01:28] <jpjacobs> exoduz: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml
[01:28] <saftsack> ok so there are new versions every day?
[01:29] <Eons> 'cause gnome-cups-manager won't use that driver and it will default to foo2zjs driver
[01:29] <Subhuman> not of dapper no, still best asking in #ubuntu+1
[01:29] <Subhuman> anyway i gotta go for a bit
[01:29] <joedj> tin_nqn: doubt it
[01:29] <taw> hello :-)
[01:30] <taw> are the 357 updates it's talking about updates to dapper or to unstable ?
[01:30] <gnomefreak> taw: dapper channel is #ubuntu+1
[01:30] <jpjacobs> sorry wrong channel
[01:30] <gnomefreak> taw: dapper and unstable for ubuntu are the same atm
[01:31] <taw> so you don't freeze testing like debian ?
[01:31] <alovei> hi
[01:31] <taw> ok :-)
[01:31] <gnomefreak> taw: the freezes atm are only on devel cersions of ubuntu (dapper)
[01:31] <gnomefreak> s/cersions/versions
[01:32] <pvd2006> alright I am using qtparted and i am trying to resize a  ntfs partition so I can create a new partition/file system on that hard drive to install new linux distro, is this possible?
[01:33] <pvd2006> I got an error saying disk had atleast 2 bad sectors
[01:33] <gnomefreak> pvd2006: thats not a good sign
[01:34] <YoussefAssad> afternoon folks
[01:35] <YoussefAssad> little problem adding a scanner; it's a Benq 5000, which should be supported. USB. when I plug it in, it doesn't get assigned a /dev entry. Any thoughts?
[01:37] <veriz> Could someone tell me what's wrong with my apt-get or sources.list ? when im trying to install irssi im getting this error: irssi-text: Depends: libperl5.8 (>= 5.8.7) but it is not going to be installed
[01:37] <Auckland_Pig> I upgraded to dapper & restarted... now my browser wont connect to the web :-( . I can ping the sites....
[01:38] <gnomefreak> Auckland_Pig: please keep it in #ubuntu+1
[01:38] <Auckland_Pig> oh ok....
[01:38] <gnomefreak> veriz: paste your sources.list to pastebin
[01:38] <pvd2006> gnomefreak:  I am running bad blocks
[01:38] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:39] <pepsi> why do the us repos break so often?
[01:39] <veriz> gnomefreak: roger
[01:39] <pepsi> are they ever working?
[01:40] <veriz> gnomefreak: http://www.mindlab.ee/~renee/sources.txt
[01:41] <gnomefreak> veriz: put a # infront of the very first line so it reads #deb cdrom
[01:41] <gnomefreak> veriz: than save close and run sudo apt-get update
[01:42] <gnomefreak> veriz: also change all the hoarys to breezy
[01:43] <gnomefreak> veriz: everytime you see the word hoary erase it and put breezy in its place
[01:44] <gnomefreak> than save close run sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:44] <veriz> gnomefreak: whats the difference?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> veriz: hoary and breezy are different versions of ubuntu
[01:44] <gnomefreak> veriz: they have different packages different versions of packages
[01:44] <veriz> gnomefreak: okey
[01:45] <veriz> gnomefreak: and now should work the apt-get install irssi-text?
[01:45] <veriz> gnomefreak: atm dist-upgrading
[01:45] <Abou> is there a way in nautilus to
[01:45] <Abou>  make it show the path of the current open directory (handy if I want to copy it and paste it to a shell)
[01:45] <gnomefreak> veriz: first off irssi should be installed already but yes if its not already installed sudo apt-get install irssi-text should work
[01:45] <heidi> 004784
[01:45] <heidi> 458,1
[01:45] <heidi> 42
[01:45] <heidi> 58
[01:45] <heidi> 893
[01:46] <heidi> 5
[01:46] <heidi> 5,452
[01:46] <heidi> 13
[01:46] <gnomefreak> heidi: stop
[01:46] <heidi> 5
[01:46] <heidi> 51
[01:46] <heidi> 515
[01:46] <heidi> 23333215
[01:46] <jpjacobs> kick her
[01:46] <gnomefreak> jpjacobs: dont go there
[01:46] <veriz> gnomefreak: thnx
[01:46] <jpjacobs> hu?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> i dont kick on command
[01:47] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: nice wrok
[01:47] <jpjacobs> ok sorry...it was just a suggestion
[01:47] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: ty
[01:47] <gnomefreak> semboy: are you gonna play by the rules today?
[01:48] <semboyisnewtolin> hello help
[01:48] <semboyisnewtolin> a litl help
[01:48] <semboyisnewtolin> what wine version is good?
[01:49] <Hobbsee> semboyisnewtolin: the latest.
[01:49] <semboyisnewtolin> where can i gett it :P
[01:49] <gnomefreak> !wine
[01:49] <gnomefreak> !+wine
[01:49] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility for running windows programs on linux.  Get the latest .deb from http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/ . This thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585 - has details for installation and setup using winetools. More info at http://www.winehq.org or for support go to #winehq.
[01:50] <Subhuman> semboyisnewtolin, "sudo apt-get install wine" in the terminal
[01:50] <pvd2006> gnomefreak, I have 25 bad blocks so far.
[01:50] <gnomefreak> pvd2006: looks like you have a long fix ahead of you
[01:50] <pvd2006> can you fix bad blocks?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> pvd2006: iirc to fix them you will lose the os
[01:51] <gnomefreak> pvd2006: i know you can on windows lol
[01:51] <gnomefreak> pvd2006: you can on ubuntu just cant remember
[01:51] <pepsi> pointless
[01:51] <pepsi> you're hard drive is gunna die anyhow
[01:51] <gnomefreak> pepsi: thats not true
[01:51] <pvd2006> ive only had it for 5 years:-\, I want my moneys worth and keep it for an other 5!
[01:51] <pvd2006> lol
[01:52] <I_Love_DRM> what would we do without apt-get
[01:52] <jpjacobs> pepsi, not necesarily, I'm working on a buggy HD for 5 years no. the only problems i got where under windows. the hours-taking-scandisk :)
[01:52] <gnomefreak> I_Love_DRM: use yum :(
[01:53] <pvd2006> I have a question
[01:53] <gnomefreak> semboy: i warned you about that 3 times already
[01:53] <DBO> I_Love_DRM, how did everything go?
[01:53] <pvd2006> how do you remove packages without removing important dependencies?
[01:53] <Subhuman> pvd2006, if you go into synaptic and remove a package, it will just remove that package.
[01:54] <gnomefreak> pvd2006: depends on what you are removing
[01:54] <pvd2006> I really wanted to get rid of open office 2, but I heard thats not going to happen
[01:54] <DBO> pvd2006, apt-get remove removes that package and every package it depended on that is not depended on by anything else
[01:54] <Subhuman> pvd2006, if you select "complete removal " it will remove all the dependencies too.
[01:54] <jpjacobs> pvd2006 synaptic shouldn't remove anything that is still used.
[01:55] <gnomefreak> pvd2006: openoffice i dont think you can remove that without removing important things
[01:55] <I_Love_DRM> Very good - Installed everything again , then installed a program sysv-rc-conf to speed the boot
[01:55] <pvd2006> hmmm db0, I will take your word!
[01:55] <I_Love_DRM> now installing wine
[01:55] <soundray> pvd2006: you can feed a badblocks list to the formatter when creating a filesystem. man mke2fs
[01:56] <pvd2006> soundray, what do you think I am a linux user or something?!?!
[01:56] <pvd2006> hehehe
[01:56] <jpjacobs> pvd2006 or just have it checked when using mke2fs -c
[01:57] <DBO> pvd2006, if you are an ex windows user, you can think of mke2fs -c as a "full format"
[01:58] <gnomefreak> lilo: you here?
[01:58] <Frogzoo> pvd2006: soundray ide disks manage badblocks themselves...
[01:58] <pvd2006> ah ok, so that will check the hard disk out and try to fix it?
[01:58] <Seveas> gnomefreak, just ignore crap PMs ;)
[01:58] <pvd2006> Frogzoo: so I dont need to do all that?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> hes still going
[01:59] <Frogzoo> pvd2006: if an ide drive is giving you bad blocks, it's on its way out
[01:59] <Frogzoo> pvd2006: just mkfs.ext3 & you're done
[02:00] <npplsthx> can someone help me my ssh keeps getting the error port 22:Connection refused
[02:00] <Subhuman> hey, does anyone know how to make the framerate show in glxgears?
[02:00] <npplsthx> I'm trying to connect to linux box from windows one, they are both on a home network on router
[02:01] <Frogzoo> Subhuman: strings glxgears | less
[02:01] <Subhuman> npplsthx, to access files?
[02:01] <pvd2006> hmm, wonder what caused the disk to get so many bad blocks. I did notice it is slow as hell trying to copy files to other hard drives and copying files to other directories, maybe thats why.
[02:01] <Subhuman> thanks Frogzoo XD
[02:01] <npplsthx> to rsync backup
[02:01] <npplsthx> i actually had it working earlier, now it wont connect
[02:02] <Frogzoo> Subhuman: -printfps
[02:02] <takedown> Subhuman: glxgears -printfps, you maybe want do a alias
[02:02] <Subhuman> takedown, yeah I got it now, thanks.
[02:02] <Subhuman> I will :D
[02:03] <npplsthx> any ideas subhuman? i turned off all firewalls
[02:04] <eapache> I'm having trouble setting up a network with windows computers
[02:04] <Subhuman> npplsthx, I'm not sure if it was working before, and nothing has changed network wise on either end (like updates new hardware etc)
[02:05] <npplsthx> i installed firestarter and it messed things up, also deleted and reinstalled the rsync and ssh on the windows box
[02:05] <eapache> Everything seems to be working, I can see my files, but whenever I try to access them it comes up with a box saying I have to login???
[02:05] <pvd2006> how long is badblocks suppose to take btw? its been running for about 30 minutes so far
[02:05] <eapache> my password doesn't work...
[02:06] <Frogzoo> pvd2006: as long as it takes to read the entire disk - so it's not quick, no
[02:06] <jpjacobs> pvd2006 it can take a long time
[02:06] <npplsthx> using samba eapache?
[02:06] <|neo> does any one can help me with an apache problem my apache stats but is always teling that page was not found
[02:06] <pvd2006> ah its done right when you said that:)
[02:06] <taw> Frogzoo: is it even a good idea to use badblocks ? s.m.a.r.t. can scan a whole disk faster than badblocks can scan one partition.
[02:06] <eapache> yes,using samba
[02:07] <Frogzoo> taw: after I killed a drive running badblocks some years back, I've never used it since
[02:07] <npplsthx> i think theres a user file that you have to add accounts to in samba
[02:07] <eapache> Sorry, I had to set windows to allow other users to change my files, seems to be fixed now.
[02:08] <jpjacobs> Frogzoo: had the same some months ago.
[02:08] <Dethon> listy
[02:09] <pvd2006> smarttcl is that how you spell it?
[02:09] <Frogzoo> jpjacobs: nasty - but the ide h/w is supposed to manage bad blocks, so I just take the line, "there be monsters"
[02:10] <devie> anyone know of a good html parser?
[02:10] <Frogzoo> pvd2006: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[02:10] <taw> devie: like LWP for Perl ?
[02:11] <devie> I dunno, looking at it now
[02:11] <taw> devie: it's cool, especially the way it handler html forms
[02:11] <redmonkey> hi. i always get the message "There are differences between boot sector and its backup." when i run fsck and it asks me if i want to copy the original to backup or the backup to original..
[02:12] <devie> taw: I really don't want to learn perl right now
[02:12] <devie> I just have a static html page that I need to get info out of, and BeautifulSoup/Python is pissing me off
[02:12] <aLPHa_LeaK> g'day
[02:12] <redmonkey> what would you choose? original to backup or backup to original?
[02:16] <eapache> I'm trying to transfer Firefox settings from XP to Ubuntu. I have copied my profile from application data in XP to Home/.mozilla/firefox/profiles in ubuntu, but when I start FF, it doesn't seem to recognize my profile.
[02:16] <eapache> It says that FF doesn't have a profile, and would I like to create one...
[02:16] <snowfaked> hmh, can i get ftp working with iptables configured to only allow ports and rest closed?
[02:17] <snowfaked> i allowed traffic to port 21, and then added -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 1024: -m helper --helper ftp -m state --state RELATED -j ACCEPT line
[02:17] <snowfaked> but my windows's cmd ftp hangs on port command
[02:18] <eapache> Anybody know what I'm doing wrong?
[02:19] <jpjacobs> you have to link the profile to the files you've put. openup the profilemanager (think it's in tools)
[02:19] <snowfaked> also it seems that the helper line isn't catching any packets :/
[02:19] <jpjacobs> there you can edit an account, and somewhere add the right folder to the profile
[02:20] <GaiaX11> I've noticed that i have lots of broken symlinks. Is there a way of fixing them at once? Is there a command line or a program to to that?
[02:20] <Dkt> I want to move a folder from /home/frantic/ (Folder I want to move is named CT_RaidAssist), to ~/.wine/drive_c/WoW/Interfaces, how should I do? I have tried the mv-command but it doesnt help.
[02:21] <eapache> I can't find a FF profiile manager...
[02:21] <eapache> nothing under 'tools'
[02:21] <jpjacobs> mmm lets see...
[02:23] <hexidigital_> good morning folks
[02:23] <jpjacobs> I think you can solve it this way: type in the adressline: about:config
[02:23] <eapache> k
[02:24] <eapache> which setting?
[02:24] <jpjacobs> in the filter thing profile. then set the profile_migration_directory to the dir you want. hope this works, never tried it myself
[02:24] <cocox> hi there!!
[02:24] <mimihu88> hi
[02:24] <|neo> i have a problem.... when a make aptitude purge to some pack the directorys and files stay in the hd
[02:25] <|neo> and wen i install them some packes creats only the dirs and nothing more
[02:25] <cocox> anybody knows how can i do a traceroute in ubuntu ?? im trying and i realize that i dont have "traceroute" just "traceroute6" and any time that i trye to make a trace to any host i got this message "traceroute: unknown host 127.0.0.1"
[02:26] <RichiH> 127.0.0.1 has a single hop
[02:26] <RichiH> you
[02:26] <cocox> its just an example
[02:26] <cocox> its the same with any IP
[02:26] <jpjacobs> you can try apting it ;)
[02:26] <pepsi> any ideas on how big the repositories are? 100 gigs or so?
[02:26] <cocox> jpjacobs, how can i do that apting?
[02:27] <eapache> didn't work
[02:27] <jpjacobs> sudo apt-get install traceroute in a terminal, or search for it in synaptic.
[02:28] <Kuprin> Hey people.
[02:28] <jpjacobs> eapache, maybe look on some FF specific forum, or channel...
[02:28] <eapache> k
[02:28] <tbenita> Hi, under gnome when I plug an usb device and try to mount it from nautilus, I get a message saying that the media is already mounted under /media/usbdisk ; unable to execute pmount
[02:28] <tbenita> and it is actually already mounted
[02:28] <tbenita> but shouldn't be
[02:28] <pepsi> tracepath should be installed by default.. seems to be the same as traceroute
[02:28] <tbenita> any idea which process does mount it ?
[02:29] <cocox> jpjacobs, thank u !!! :)
[02:29] <jpjacobs> cocox np
[02:29] <jpjacobs> tbenita, there is some pluggable device like menu entry under administration. there you can set to autmount or not.
[02:30] <cocox> tbenita, maybe your usb devide its been mounted automaticly
[02:30] <cocox> just try an "ls /media/usbdisk"
[02:31] <tbenita> jpjacobs, I know it but I'd like my device to be mounted via gnome
[02:31] <tbenita> cocox, yes that's the point
[02:31] <tbenita> cocox, ls /media/usbdisk shows the device's content
[02:32] <tbenita> cocox, but I don't find how it has been mounted
[02:32] <BAD-IDEA> Hi, how to put tomcat service to start before apache2 service on unbunu default startup ?!?
[02:33] <ompaul> !tell BAD-IDEA about ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:33] <ompaul> BAD-IDEA, the end of that page deals with some tomcat stuff
[02:34] <BAD-IDEA> a didnt get any page yet
[02:34] <BAD-IDEA> !tell
[02:34] <ompaul> BAD-IDEA, check for a new tab from ubotu
[02:34] <Kuprin> Hey guys; I need to copy a graphic out of a PDF, is there anything I can use that'll do it in Ubuntu?
[02:34] <BAD-IDEA> !tell BAD-IDEA about ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:35] <BAD-IDEA> ubotu says--> i dunno what is 'ApacheMySQLPHP'.
[02:35] <ubotu> BAD-IDEA: okay
[02:35] <ompaul> BAD-IDEA, you got a new one - sorry its LAMP ;-) same thing
[02:35] <pvd2006> can someone see if www.pastebin.com is working alright? it seems to be taking forever to load
[02:35] <BAD-IDEA> ok
[02:35] <cocox> tbenita, you should look at this "/etc/fstab"
[02:36] <slackern> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:36] <piotrek_> Hi everybody!
[02:36] <nandz_> hi -- anyone working on phpEclipse? I'm stuck with some installation issues
[02:37] <piotrek_> Do anyone know how can i install intel c++ compiler on ubuntu?
[02:37] <tbenita> cocox, /etc/fstab has no information about usb device (only included hard drive and cdrom)
[02:37] <gnomefreak> piotrek_: gcc?
[02:37] <piotrek_> icc
[02:37] <gnomefreak> pvd2006: it is why not try the pastebin we use
[02:37] <piotrek_> gcc is trivial to install :)
[02:37] <nandz_> I'm getting a host of these errors when I install PHPeclipse 1.1.8 -- Plug-in "net.sourceforge.phpdt.smarty.ui" version "1.1.8" referenced by this feature is missing.
[02:37] <BAD-IDEA> ompaul what i need is to run Tomcat before Apache2 when i startup Ubuntu ?
[02:38] <ompaul> BAD-IDEA, it explains Tomcat at the foot of that page
[02:38] <maike-maus> hello. can anybody help me getting my network / internet working?
[02:38] <pepsi> BAD-IDEA, reorder their init scripts
[02:38] <tbenita> if I unmount /media/usbdisk and open mautilus desktop, I see the media, not mounted. Then I open it, and it gets mounted, but not into nautilus : it gets mounted back on /media/usbdisk
[02:39] <nandz_> maike-maus, where are you stuck right now?
[02:39] <tbenita> and if I try again to open it in nautilus, I get a message saying that it is already mounted
[02:39] <BAD-IDEA> ompaul its explains how to startup and restart Tomcat but i dont need this ..
[02:39] <cocox> tbenita, i had the same problem with my floppy...
[02:39] <BAD-IDEA> pepsi can you plz specify a little bit more about reordering init.d
[02:40] <pepsi> BAD-IDEA, /etc/init.d/ containts links to scripts in /etc/rc.X
[02:40] <tbenita> cocox, ah ! and how did you solve it ?
[02:40] <pepsi> er /etc/rcX.d
[02:40] <maike-maus> nandz_:  network monitor in panel shows connection lo: but nothing happens
[02:40] <ompaul> BAD-IDEA, if you have all that done, then do as pepsi said, the files in question live in /etc/rc.[0 to 6] 
[02:41] <TempicoMB> Hi there.
[02:41] <BAD-IDEA> thanx :)
[02:41] <nandz_> maike-maus, "lo" is the loopback interface
[02:41] <nandz_> maike-maus, "lo" will not connect you across to the internet or LAN
[02:41] <TempicoMB> Can I get any help here concerning installation of Ubuntu on my Mac?
[02:41] <nandz_> maike-maus, you need something like "eth0" or "eth1" -- is it there?
[02:42] <nandz_> TempicoMB, why do you want to screw up your Mac -- I wish I had OS X on my laptop!
[02:42] <paperboy> osx = sd?
[02:42] <paperboy> bsd
[02:42] <maike-maus> nandz_ ok, at network monitor there is only lo - at network system there is also eth0  and it is actived...
[02:43] <paperboy> haha
[02:43] <Dkt> I want to move a folder from /home/frantic/ (Folder I want to move is named CT_RaidAssist), to ~/.wine/drive_c/WoW/Interfaces, how should I do? I have tried the mv-command but it doesnt help.
[02:43] <paperboy> hehe
[02:43] <ompaul> TempicoMB, try ##apple it might have one or two ubuntu people in it
[02:43] <nandz_> maike-maus, can you see two blinking computer in the top-right hand corner of your screen?
[02:44] <nandz_> maike-maus, open network settings (System->Administration->Network Settings) -- do you see eth0/eth1?
[02:44] <ompaul> TempicoMB, or waith 4 hours when one of the mac users should be here, however I understood it was rather trivial to install it on a Mac, but I am not inthat camp
[02:44] <maike-maus> nandz_ yethis is what I called network monitors...
[02:44] <|neo> how to i set up the apache to work with php ?"
[02:44] <nandz_> maike-maus, if yes, then open then select eth0/eth1 and open the properties dialog box
[02:45] <maike-maus> at netwwk settings I see ra0 (wireless) eth0 (lan) and ppp0 (modem)
[02:45] <nandz_> maike-maus, are you doing it? (btw -- how're you on IRC -- someone else's machine?)
[02:45] <I_Love_DRM> does anyone know apt-get for motif please
[02:46] <maike-maus> nandz_ yes, I can see them there - and now I'm on my old machine online
[02:46] <piotrek_> http://www.linki.zhr.pl/upload/hmm.png
[02:46] <piotrek_> this is where the erros starts
[02:46] <nandz_> maike-maus, okay -- are you on a LAN, if yes - then you probably need to configure eth0
[02:46] <piotrek_> while installing intel c++ compiler
[02:46] <piotrek_> icc, not gcc
[02:46] <nandz_> maike-maus, select eth0 -- and fire up the properties dialog box
[02:46] <jpjacobs> I_Love_DRM: try aptitude, it's a console client, but a real good one
[02:47] <maike-maus> nandz_ ok, the box is opened
[02:47] <nandz_> maike-maus, does your LAN have a DHCP server?
[02:47] <ompaul> don't like that nick name:  I_Love_DRM,  but your looking at : apt-cache search motif | more all the lesstif things are what you want to look at
[02:47] <maike-maus> nandz_ the connection is aivated (checked box) and dhcp is choosen
[02:47] <piotrek_> http://www.linki.zhr.pl/upload/hmm.png
[02:47] <piotrek_> can anyone help me?
[02:48] <nandz_> maike-maus, okay -- then fire up a terminal window (command prompt) and type "ifconfig"
[02:48] <jpjacobs> I_Love_DRM: sorry mis understood your question
[02:48] <maike-maus> nandz_ ok, I did it - do you need some information from ifconfig?
[02:49] <ompaul> piotrek_, that kernel is really old - you won't get it in a modern breezy or dapper
[02:49] <nandz_> maike-maus, just see if eth0 has been assigned an IP address
[02:49] <ompaul> piotrek_, you need something that will work with a 2.6.10 kernel or higher
[02:50] <piotrek_> ompaul, i have the newest kubuntu !
[02:50] <piotrek_> kubuntu beta 2
[02:50] <mythicness> how do you increase a process's priority
[02:50] <ompaul> piotrek_, the software your trying to install is looking for a much older version of linux
[02:50] <jackn> Hello, I'm a Ubuntu newbie and I'd like to know how I can access the files on my hard drive (I'm booting from a llive CD).
[02:50] <maike-maus> nandz_   no
[02:50] <ompaul> piotrek_, what is that software maybe we have something that can take its place
[02:50] <nandz_> maike-maus, the output of ifconfig should have something like "inet addr: x.y.z.w" against eth0 -- are you with me?
[02:51] <jpjacobs> mythicness: renice <level> <processnumber>
[02:51] <jpjacobs> mythicness: the lower the level, the higher the priority
[02:51] <nandz_> maike-maus, I'm sending you my ifconfig output in a private message
[02:51] <ompaul> piotrek_, sorry I made a mistake
[02:51] <cailan> have chinese?
[02:51] <maike-maus> nandz_  well there is:    inet6 Adresse: fe80::240:d0ff:fe82:b3ab/64    but I think this     not an IP adress, right?
[02:52] <jpjacobs> mythicness: You get the process id by running ps ax|grep <the prog you want to renice>
[02:52] <ompaul> piotrek_, it should work if you just enter the number 1
[02:52] <nandz_> maike-maus, check the line just above that inet6 line
[02:52] <ompaul>  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:52] <nandz_> maike-maus, it should have your IP address -- is it there?
[02:52] <Stargazers> Hi. Can someone tell quickly what was the command in Xorg.conf how I can made Compose manager work? In Section "Extensions" I had to write something "Compose" "true" or something like that, but what was that?
[02:53] <maike-maus> nandz_  no, only the hardware adress
[02:53] <nandz_> maike-maus, okay chuck this -- do you know any IP address in your LAN -- an IP address of a machine that you're sure will be on the network right now?
[02:53] <jackn> Hello, I have a Windows XP PC and I booted from a Ubuntu live CD. I'd like to access my files but I can't find the directory... Some help please?
[02:53] <nandz_> maike-maus, or the hostname/website address of a machine on your LAN -- something like an intranet server or something
[02:53] <maike-maus> nandz_   Protokoll: Ethernet Hardware Adresse  00:40:D0:82:B3:AB
[02:54] <ompaul> !tell jackn about ntfs
[02:54] <ompaul> jackn, please read the message from ubotu
[02:54] <nandz_> maike-maus, try pinging another machine on your LAN
[02:54] <maike-maus> nandz_ yes, I know other IP adresses of my network
[02:54] <nandz_> maike-maus, try pinging it
[02:54] <Stargazers> !tell Stargazers about composite manager
[02:54] <Stargazers> !tell Stargazers about composite
[02:54] <nandz_> maike-maus, $ ping ip_address
[02:54] <piotrek_> ompaul, i have try 1 but this don't work :(
[02:54] <Stargazers> Damn that show only the links.
[02:55] <nandz_> maike-maus, you with me?
[02:55] <Stargazers> I am in text mode just now and I'd be very happy if someone helps?
[02:55] <ompaul> jackn, a word of warning due to the closed nature of NTFS it not being a published standard writing to it is sure to break your files
[02:55] <maike-maus> nandz_ connect: Network is unreachable
[02:55] <ompaul> piotrek_, well what is that software?
[02:55] <piotrek_> i have kubuntu beta 2 and i'm installing intel c++ compiler 9.0
[02:56] <nandz_> maike-maus, hmm --what was the IP that you tried?
[02:56] <maike-maus> nandz_ 192.168.0.102
[02:56] <ompaul> piotrek_, well it looks like is it not, why not use the ubuntu compiler> sudo apt-get install build-essential<< will give you gcc as your compiler
[02:56] <nandz_> maike-maus, okay -- let's try something else
[02:57] <Jimmey__> What do I have to do to download from a .torrent? I can't seem to connect to anyone
[02:57] <nandz_> maike-maus, type $ route -n
[02:57] <piotrek_> i'm using gcc every time
[02:57] <|neo> does any one help me to setup php5 in apache2 ?!
[02:57] <piotrek_> but i want something more efficient
[02:57] <nandz_> maike-maus, do you know the IP address of the gateway on your LAN?
[02:57] <piotrek_> for my intel centrino processor
[02:57] <maike-maus> nandz_ no entries - the gateway is the router right?
[02:58] <nandz_> maike-maus, yes -- in many cases
[02:58] <ompaul> |neo, you already had that conversation for over an hour this morning, I know cos I tried that I can do php apache and mysql from that web page
[02:58] <nandz_> maike-maus, in all probability your DHCP is screwing up the config
[02:58] <v3rmap>  Hi, I'm using emacs on Ubuntu and I'm unable to paste text selections in emacs to anywhere else. How can I fix this?
[02:58] <|neo> now the server is working but the php is not
[02:58] <nandz_> maike-maus, has someone given you a static IP address for your maching -- I think you should dump DHCP and configure your network by hand
[02:59] <piotrek_> so nobody is able to help me :(
[02:59] <|neo> i tryde the wiki no use
[02:59] <ompaul> |neo, read the instructions on that web page 1 line at a time and you will get there, we have reordered some of the wording not changed it so it might be clearer
[02:59] <nandz_> maike-maus, you'll need an IP address for your machine and the IP address of the default gateway -- do you have that?
[02:59] <maike-maus> nandz_ yes, I have both
[02:59] <ompaul> piotrek_, well you really need to ask intel why it is not working
[02:59] <nandz_> maike-maus, great -- go to network settings dialog box again
[03:00] <|neo> ompaul: i already tryed no use
[03:00] <nandz_> maike-maus, switch from DHCP to Static IP address
[03:00] <nandz_> maike-maus, and enter the details below
[03:00] <maike-maus> nandz_ ok, I#m there
[03:01] <nandz_> maike-maus, entered the details?
[03:01] <ompaul> |neo, I tried and it worked, rather than wasting another hour on irc why not do sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 php mysql and then start again on that page
[03:01] <|neo> after instaling the php5 i have runded the udo a2enmod php5 and it gives me a no sutch file
[03:01] <maike-maus> nandz_ yes
[03:01] <trentster> Hi, ive done a server install in conjunction installed vmware server, eth0 keeps being mapped to the wrong network interface not the gigabit one, what is the easiest way to swop the 2 around?
[03:01] <kubus> Tag
[03:01] <nandz_> maike-maus, the subnet mask should be filled in automatically -- don't worry about that
[03:01] <nandz_> maike-maus, now click ok -- and try pinging some other machine again
[03:01] <nandz_> maike-maus, oh before that -- deactivate/activate eth0
[03:01] <|neo> ompaul my apt-get does not remove the files
[03:02] <|neo> ompaul : it does not give any error but the directorys stay their
[03:02] <Jimmey__> BitTorrent won't connect to anyone. What's up?
[03:02] <nandz_> maike-maus, any luck?
[03:02] <maike-maus> nandz_   host unreachable
[03:03] <piotrek_> hmm ok so i have another question
[03:03] <ompaul> |neo where on that page does it say >> sudo a2enmod php5<< I can't see it
[03:03] <piotrek_> do anyone know gcov tool ?
[03:03] <nandz_> maike-maus, check ifconfig again -- can you see your IP address this time?
[03:04] <piotrek_> how can i "tell" vim to colorize .c.gcov files ?
[03:04] <|neo> If apache is not actually parsing the php after you restarted it, install libapache2-mod-php4. It should be installed when you install the php4 package, but some users have reported that it wasn't for them. You may also need to actually enable it, by doing sudo a2enmod php4
[03:04] <nandz_> maike-maus, if you see your IP address against eth0 -- then try pinging the default gw -- and just check -- have you plugged in your LAN cable?
[03:04] <ompaul> |neo, this means you are not following the instructions, there are php5 instructions and there are php4 instructions they are diffenent in some places
[03:04] <corey> can someone tell me why my wlan0 interface isnt shown or brought up after I restart?
[03:04] <|neo> i have made them both
[03:04] <|neo> does not work
[03:05] <|neo> i have 3 computers with this problem
[03:05] <|neo> the same
[03:05] <maike-maus> nandz_ I can see the IP adress there
[03:05] <|neo> apt-get it does not remove any thing the apt-get instal only crates dirs
[03:05] <maike-maus> nandz: nandz_ but I can't ping the gw
[03:05] <nandz_> maike-maus, well then -- try pinging the gw
[03:06] <nandz_> maike-maus, have you plugged in the LAN cable?
[03:06] <ompaul> |neo, I got php4 to work in 4 minutes of work this morning, you need to remove all existing config files and start again you have done something wrong, you would have reinstalled them three times over and followed the wiki for the time you have spent here, now if your willing to rebuild a box do nothing and come back I will help you with this, but only if it is a clean install
[03:06] <nandz_> maike-maus, can you see a light blinking and all -- are you sure the h/w is working perfectly?
[03:06] <I_Love_DRM> plug the hub in
[03:06] <Jimmey__> How can I check what users are using my PC? My Uptime desklet says three users are online
[03:06] <lss> Hi, if I download at 20kbps, and times (x) that by 100, how many megabytes (or kbps) do i have?
[03:06] <maike-maus> nandz_ I can ping myself - but not the router
[03:07] <|neo> ompaul: how can i reinstal if my apt-get does not REMOVE ANYTHING cant you read
[03:07] <ompaul> |neo, do this, choose one box, install the server on it only
[03:07] <nandz_> maike-maus, try pinging yourself with your external IP -- NOT 127.0.0.1 -- can you do that?
[03:07] <|neo> ompaul: i have done that
[03:07] <maike-maus> nandz_ yes I pinged me correctly with 192.168.0.104
[03:07] <|neo> ompaul: i would not be here if i didn't tyed that
[03:07] <ompaul> |neo, I mean you have installed all sorts of stuff, and I mean a total reinstall, and I can read thanks, as a result of that, this conversation is over
[03:08] <StarSharp> I have the same problem, but just now I remove all the extra repo I added before and go to yast , running the Online Update configuration
[03:08] <StarSharp> and everything's works well
[03:08] <ompaul> |neo, base operating system
[03:08] <nandz_> maike-maus, checked the h/w? and are you sure the other machine is really up? try some alternate IP addresses
[03:08] <|neo> ompaul: yes i have 3 computers
[03:08] <StarSharp> hints, don't add repo in the installation sources, but add it in Online Update
[03:08] <|neo> ompaul: none of the instalations works
[03:08] <ompaul> |neo, choose one, install ubuntu on it from the start cleanly then come back to me and I will get you up and running
[03:09] <StarSharp> hei
[03:09] <StarSharp> sorry
[03:09] <maike-maus> nandz_ the other machine works fine and the hardware of my new system works as well
[03:09] <StarSharp> I chat on the wrong channel
[03:09] <StarSharp> ><
[03:09] <StarSharp> LOL
[03:09] <ompaul> !enter
[03:09] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[03:09] <StarSharp> I thought I was in #suse
[03:09] <|neo> ompaul: dwd i konw that my ing is not so good but i'm realy on thar part....
[03:10] <StarSharp> sorry, my bad ^^. I have to go now. Sorry again.. ><
[03:10] <ompaul> StarSharp, if I kicked you out, would it be fair to say "yast for that" ... (you asked)
[03:10] <piotrek_> is it possible to work in text-mode on widescreen laptop with two windows one time ???????????
[03:10] <corey> can someone tell me why i configured my wlan0 had it all working im using network-manager, go to restart network-manager doesnt recognize a wlan0 and neither does the system
[03:10] <|neo> ompaul: thats whay i asking help...
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> piotrek_,  you could just learn to use 'screen'
[03:10] <Jimmey__> corey, write the information to /etc/network/interfaces
[03:10] <nandz_> maike-maus, what's the output of your route -n command?
[03:11] <ompaul> |neo, please choose one of your computers, install ubuntu on it from the start, then come in and look for me
[03:11] <corey> Jimmey__: network-manager is using it though
[03:11] <|neo> i just did
[03:11] <corey> Jimmey__: not the system
[03:11] <Jimmey__> If the interface works, try "iface wlan0 inet dhcp [newline]  netmask 255.255.255.0 [newline]  gateway 100.100.100.100 [newline] , auto wlan0"
[03:11] <ompaul> |neo, it has no apache on it, it has no php or mysql on it at all?
[03:12] <|neo> new
[03:12] <|neo> just the base
[03:12] <Jimmey__> corey, write that to interfaces, then sudo ifup ra0
[03:12] <ompaul> |neo, fine
[03:12] <Jimmey__> *sudo ifup wlan0
[03:12] <|neo> ompaul: vantage of having more than 1 computer
[03:12] <maike-maus> 192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0     255.255.255.0  U    0    0     0     eth0
[03:12] <ompaul> |neo, as this is so text intensive join me in the channel #ulamp
[03:13] <maike-maus> 0.0.0.0     192.168.0.1         0.0.0.0            UG     0     0         0    eth0
[03:13] <nandz_> maike-maus, is 192.168.0.1 your default gw?
[03:13] <corey> Jimmey__: if i set it to auto come up network-manager wont be allowed to access it
[03:14] <snowfaked> could i somehow set directory where people can create directories, but the ownership is automatically transferred to single group, like team01, and only the directors creator can delete files?
[03:17] <maike-maus> nandz_   yes this  my router
[03:17] <nandz_> maike-maus, then I'm stumped -- seems to me that e'thing is correct -- are you sure the kernel recognizes your ethernet card properly?
[03:17] <maike-maus> nandz_  I don't know? With win it works...
[03:17] <cocox> anyone knows where can i find the FPING and GPING tools ????????????
[03:17] <jpjacobs> cocox search in synaptic
[03:19] <maike-maus> nandz_ the both targets 0.0.0.0 and 192.168.0.0   are pingable...
[03:20] <snowfaked> uh i don't understand, if there is write access to group that user belong, why he isn't able to create directory/file to that dir?
[03:21] <snowfaked> it's not users primary group but user is part of the group with write permissions
[03:21] <cocox> jpjacobs, thank u again budy ;)
[03:21] <Jimmey__> How should I set up Apache securely? Should I create a new user to run apache, that only has read access to my DocumentRoot?
[03:21] <hyphenated> maike-maus: 0.0.0.0 isn't really a target :-)
[03:21] <jpjacobs> cocox np
[03:22] <raptros-v76> Jimmey__: its secure already
[03:22] <_mason> Hey
[03:22] <raptros-v76> Jimmey__: the default settings were assembled by people smarter that you or me
[03:23] <thesaltydog> I had nm-applet working in breezy. Now in Dapper it always shows "no-connection" even if I am connected
[03:23] <Jimmey__> raptros-v76, yes, but It's run with sudo, and I'm getting reports of multiple users on this PC ( usual ), by when I type "users", it says that I'm logged on 4 times; which might mean that someone could access my files?
[03:24] <jpjacobs> Jimmey_ it should be run as a startup service... so sudo /etc/init.d/apache start
[03:24] <raptros-v76> Jimmey__: no one can access your computer through apache.  theres something else going on. and the user should be www-<somethingorother>
[03:24] <jpjacobs> or something like that
[03:25] <Jimmey__> raptros-v76, so there's a new user set up already?
[03:25] <Aleks> i need help ...
[03:25] <_mason> I dont think i have my nvidia drivers configured correctly, it does not show any refresh rate beyond 60htz, and i have the latest nvidia-glx drivers, in synaptic there are 'nvidia-glx-legasy' drivers, is that what i should install? if not can someone link me to a xorg.conf wiki that can help me with this issue?
[03:25] <raptros-v76> Jimmey__: read the conf file
[03:25] <Aleks> who know how i can make dialup connection on ubuntu ?
[03:26] <fyrestrtr> _mason: does direct rendering work?
[03:26] <spacey> _mason: CRT or TFT/LCD?
[03:26] <FeestBijtje> how do i browse with "The Terminal" with dirs like Unreal Tournament 2004
[03:26] <fyrestrtr> FeestBijtje: cd Unreal\ Tournament\ 2004
[03:26] <FeestBijtje> thnx fyre
[03:26] <FeestBijtje> thnx fyrestrt1
[03:26] <fyrestrtr> FeestBijtje: or cd Unreal<tab>
[03:27] <FeestBijtje> thnx fyrestrtr
[03:27] <spacey> or: cd "Unreal Tournament 2004"
[03:27] <_mason> CRT VX1120, on 1920x1440, before i reformatted it could reach 75htz
[03:27] <_mason> now i cannot
[03:27] <Jimmey__> raptros-v76, "It is     recommended that you set up a new user and group specifically     for running the server."
[03:27] <raptros-v76> Jimmey__: lok at the option user and group
[03:28] <Jimmey__> In the conf file?
[03:28] <_mason> fyrestrtr: Direct rendering?
[03:30] <Mr_GTi> Hey Everbody
[03:30] <Mr_GTi> Is anybody there????
[03:30] <_mason> Hey?
[03:30] <Mr_GTi> Hey
[03:30] <_mason> hows it going?
[03:31] <Mr_GTi> not bad which part of the world are you from???
[03:31] <NotNet> hi everybody I need a subtitle editor for ubuntu breezy I founded a .deb for daper that does not worked any suggestions?
[03:31] <_mason> Australia
[03:31] <Mr_GTi> Cool
[03:31] <Jimmey__> Why didn't it work? What error message, NotNet?
[03:31] <Mr_GTi> In sydney????
[03:31] <Arrick> anyone, I installed the default install, how do I get it so the gui doesnt automatically start?
[03:32] <_mason> Mandurah actually, 1 hour away from perth
[03:32] <nandz_> can anyone help me out with an Eclipse/PHP Eclipse installation please!
[03:32] <Mr_GTi> Ahhhh    one of he better parts of Oz
[03:32] <_mason> fastest growing city in australia!
[03:32] <NotNet> Jimmey__, dependencies problems
[03:32] <Mr_GTi> I need some advice......
[03:32] <Jimmey__> NotNet, so get the packages it requires
[03:32] <_mason> not sure i can be of any help?
[03:32] <Arrick> _mason, you only have like 10 cities there right?
[03:32] <Mr_GTi> how familliar are you with linux????
[03:33] <_mason> well, try 3-4 weeks
[03:33] <Mr_GTi> lol
[03:33] <Mr_GTi> well your better than me
[03:33] <_mason> :D
[03:33] <Mr_GTi> lol,
[03:33] <_mason> well whats your problem?
[03:33] <Mr_GTi> Im a long time windows user
[03:33] <_mason> as was i
[03:33] <Arrick> Mr_GTi, whats your question?
[03:33] <Mr_GTi> and im considering converting to Linux
[03:33] <Arrick> so was I but now I run a ubuntu network for a living
[03:33] <_mason> are you on linux right now?
[03:33] <Mr_GTi> no
[03:34] <Arrick> ok, question somewhere?
[03:34] <Mr_GTi> I wouldnt know the first thing about it
[03:34] <Mr_GTi> lol
[03:34] <Arrick> ok
[03:34] <_mason> Hmm
[03:34] <LinuxJones> Mr_GTi, have you tried the Ubuntu LiveCD ?
[03:34] <Mr_GTi> not yet
[03:34] <scifi> Mr_GTi: try the livecd
[03:34] <scifi> hehe
[03:34] <Arrick> ubuntu roks man, almost as easy to use as XP
[03:34] <Mr_GTi> lol...   what are the advantages of Linux over windows?????
[03:34] <_mason> http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[03:34] <Arrick> opensource
[03:35] <_mason> I love ubuntu
[03:35] <Mr_GTi> Yeh Besides that
[03:35] <Mr_GTi> lol
[03:35] <scifi> the only reason i still dual-boot into windows is because of a game that runs better under windows
[03:35] <Mr_GTi> ahhhh
[03:35] <cocox> jpjacobs, i already installed fping from synaptic , but when i execute this from the console nothing happens
[03:35] <scifi> nething else ubuntu does as good/better
[03:35] <Mr_GTi> is there a 64 bit verson of it???
[03:35] <scifi> yes
[03:35] <nss29> hep me hep me.....alsa
[03:35] <Arrick> you can get just about anything you need for free, and also it has better support, and it doesnt run unnecessary processes in the backgound, you dont need a firewall, (it is a firewall)
[03:36] <Arrick> yes
[03:36] <_mason> ^ speaking of which, does anyone know the first thing about emulating windows xp in a shell in linux?
[03:36] <raptros-v76> nss29: what about alsa
[03:36] <raptros-v76> _mason: wine?
[03:36] <LinuxJones> Mr_GTi, that's the best place to start looking at linux. The performance will be alot slower than an actual install and things like your video resolution may need some post install tweeking.
[03:36] <Subhuman> _mason, using vmware or xen maybe?
[03:36] <Mr_GTi> Im running a AMD 64 3500+ processor....
[03:36] <_mason> no
[03:36] <_mason> like emulate windows
[03:36] <Subhuman> !vmware
 Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with >>`uname -r<< leave out the <> the ` is a Backtic
[03:36] <_mason> Oooh, cool
[03:36] <_mason> thankyou
[03:37] <scifi> Mr_GTi: linuxjones is talking about the livecd btw
[03:37] <thesaltydog> Anyone has experiences in nm-applet not working?
[03:37] <LinuxJones> Mr_GTi, I would avoid the 64 bit version of Ubuntu
[03:37] <nss29> can't get the sound working on my box. noticed on the alsa mixer that the chip called out is not my sound card.
[03:37] <Mr_GTi> yeh????
[03:37] <NotNet> Using the Synaptic it resolves the dependencies and installs everything taht is great. Is there any way to do this having a .deb file?
[03:37] <Mr_GTi> im on a 64bit machine
[03:37] <abrar> SOME of my Repositories are giving some kind of error! I thinks its related to some KEY or something. i just installed ubuntu. what can i do?
[03:37] <scifi> sorry dont know alot about the 64bit version
[03:37] <_mason> ive  been reading a bit about some of the these windows emulators.. what about speeds? how does VMWare clock up?
[03:38] <Arrick> abrar which ones?
[03:38] <LinuxJones> Mr_GTi, you probably won't notice any difference between the 64bit and 32bit version unless you do alot of things like compiling software or encoding videos etc..
[03:38] <Mr_GTi> is there any need for an anti virus???    and what do you mean ubantu is a firewall???????
[03:38] <scifi> _mason: in general i think virtualization is slower
[03:38] <JoshRA> Hello, I am trying to use a usb headset, and I can not seem to get the sound routed to it, I looked in dmesg and it said it sees it and loaded usb audio there is /dev/dsp1 but i can not find volume controls for it?
[03:38] <jpjacobs> NotNet use dpkg -i
[03:38] <Arrick> if they are us, they are bad, if they are Seveas repos, you need to read the site
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> _mason,  a lot of it depends on the program/os you are running. I hear most are not too bad for running utilities.. (dont start on games)
[03:38] <DarkJesus> I have one question
[03:38] <Mr_GTi> I do do alot of encoding videos
[03:38] <Arrick> Mr_GTi, no need for antivirus
[03:38] <DarkJesus> Whenever I do sudo, what password should I be putting in?
[03:39] <Arrick> adn ubuntu is a firewall in itself
[03:39] <abrar> Arrick: http://bd.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:39] <Mr_GTi> interesting
[03:39] <Arrick> DarkJesus, your user password
[03:39] <LinuxJones> Mr_GTi, alot of stuff like flash don't really work out of the box on 64
[03:39] <_mason> scifi: just some ive heard are more sluggish for this and that, while others are better doing that and this.. ill check out VMWare, thanks
[03:39] <DarkJesus> The one I made during installation?
[03:39] <scifi> now theres a BIG reason to switch to linux for starters, huge security advantages
[03:39] <abrar> Arrick: it says could not downlaod all repository indexes... The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.
[03:39] <Arrick> abrar, where it says bd, change it to ei
[03:39] <_mason> Dr_Willis: And Yeah. was going play some games... Metal Slug X :P
[03:40] <scifi> _mason: well i tried wine for gaming, was incredibly slow
[03:40] <Mr_GTi> Flash dont work???
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> _mason,  that a windows or dos game?
[03:40] <_mason> Dos :D
[03:40] <DarkJesus> Arrick, will it be the password for the account I made during installation?
[03:40] <Arrick> yes
[03:40] <_mason> dont think ill have a problem
[03:40] <scifi> _mason: but for everyday apps, (office suites etc) they will probly run ok
[03:40] <abrar> Arrick withou this repo, i cant install many additional cool packages, that i did in my other PC. for example, i have no xine listed, i have no 3ddesktop listed etc...
[03:40] <Arrick> DarkJesus, yes
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> _mason,  dos is EASY. :P use 'dosbox'
[03:40] <LinuxJones> Mr_GTi, it is harder to get working on 64bit Ubuntu
[03:40] <_mason> but i mainly  need it for Flash 8 and photoshop
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> _mason,  it runs most all the dos games great.
[03:40] <Mr_GTi> oh does iTunes work on ubantu????
[03:40] <DarkJesus> OK, cool, thanks Arrick
[03:40] <NotNet> jpjacobs, ok it says lots of dependencies
[03:40] <_mason> Really?
[03:40] <Arrick> abrar, their network is down right now
[03:40] <_mason> Jesus
[03:41] <JoshRA> Anyone know of anything that can help me?
[03:41] <_mason> thats so awesome, thanks Dr_Williams
[03:41] <NotNet> jpjacobs, but do I have to install each one by hand?
[03:41] <Arrick> !language
[03:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[03:41] <jpjacobs> Notnet: then you'll have to get them or forget about the package
[03:41] <abrar> Arrick: it also says W: Couldn't stat source package list http://bd.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/bd.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> _mason,  i even set up gnomes file manager to have a menu/script to launch dos games from the gui by right clicking on the dos/game folder :P
[03:41] <LinuxJones> Mr_GTi, your first experience with Ubuntu should be easy, I would recommend you install the 386 version
[03:41] <jpjacobs> Notnet, no it should happen automagically
[03:41] <Mr_GTi> 386???
[03:41] <EvilGuru> what do I need to do to make it so that mysql accepts external connections?
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> _mason,  some games dont work that well however. like DOOM and some of the others that use fancy memory managers. The latest Linux Magazine I got. even had an artical on using vmware and dos games.
[03:42] <abrar> i am getting this error: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://bd.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/bd.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:42] <LinuxJones> Mr_GTi, I don't know about iTunes you'll have to search google for that I guess
[03:42] <abrar> what can i do???
[03:42] <scifi> Mr_GTi: u may want to wait until June 1st when the very latest version of ubuntu (dapper) is released
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> abrar,  yse a different repository.  perhaps.
[03:42] <Mr_GTi> ,mmmmmmm
[03:42] <_mason> Dr_Willis: Got Wiki? :) i would like to setup my own script like that, maby a tutorial in general?
[03:42] <Mr_GTi> <<<<<<   goes to download the CD
[03:42] <Mr_GTi> lol
[03:43] <scifi> Mr_GTi: i think itunes is so popular that people have managed to "hack" it and it does indeed run on linux
[03:43] <Jimmey__> So how would I create a user and a group with limited privileges for Apache to run as?
[03:43] <abrar> Dr_Willis: How can i determind which repo to add, and HOW do i add?? PLease HELP!!
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> !easysource
[03:43] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:43] <Mr_GTi> Besides security is there any other advantages of ubantu over windows?????    or even macosx   for that matter????
[03:43] <ompaul> abrar, remove the br from the lines starting with http: while using the command >>sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list << after that run sudo apt-get update and continue from there
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> abrar,  and a read of the bots "!apt-get" urls is handy.
[03:44] <james_xxx> does anyone here know if a linksys WUSB54GS usb network adapter has ever been configured to work well with ubuntu?
[03:44] <Jimmey__> And that's so good about iTunes?
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> Jimmey__,  ive often wonderd that myself.. :P and normally Uninstall it as soon as i can.
[03:44] <ompaul> Mr_GTi, too many for this forum, try it you'll love it
[03:44] <Mr_GTi> Well i have an iPod and i like the way itunes works, with the music store and such
[03:45] <Jimmey__> Dr_Willis, I don't see what it's got that Amarok hasn't - And I'm not a fan of Amarok
[03:45] <Jimmey__> Xfmedia owns all
[03:45] <scifi> Mr_GTi: ubuntu comes with a type of "database" of apps called repositories, which u can search and install at your leisure knowing that it will run perfectly on ur system, thats one of the main features i love about it
[03:45] <EvilGuru> can anyone tell me how I can get mysql (sever) to accept external connections, I have create a user wich the host is %
[03:45] <Mr_GTi> me tempted
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> Jimmey__,  it trys to lock you into their store. and perhaps watches what you play. :P thats a 'feature'
[03:46] <EvilGuru> but the server keeps refusing my connection
[03:46] <_mason> Dr_Willis: Im quite annoyed from copying anything from a read only location ( eg CD ) and it all being, well read only, do you know how to create a script that will auto chmod * ?
[03:46] <LinuxJones> Mr_GTi, reliability, ease of installing applications and system/security upgrades
[03:46] <gordonjcp> Mr_GTi: what *kind* of GTi?
[03:47] <Jimmey__> Mr_GTi, you'll be a bad-ass if you use Ubuntu. You'll be like everyone else if you use Windows.
[03:47] <ompaul> Mr_GTi, ubuntu is the name :-)
[03:47] <Mr_GTi> LMAO @ Jimmey
[03:47] <scifi> Mr_GTi: 17817 packages currently listed in databse :D
[03:47] <Mr_GTi> Wonder how much stuffed penquins are these days.... lol
[03:48] <james_xxx> does ANYONE in here know how a wireless USB adapter could be configured to work with ubuntu?
[03:48] <_mason> Jimmey__: even more bad-ass in IT classes when you tell you teacher you cant do your MS Frontpage homework, AHahahah
[03:48] <ompaul> Mr_GTi, a lot less than one widows upgrade licence
[03:48] <ompaul> !offtopic
[03:48] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> _mason,  hmm.. ive never seen that happen under linux. only windows.
[03:48] <Jimmey__> _mason - "Sir, I couldn't do my homework, I was too busy having a secure system."
[03:49] <abrar> ompaul: im a newvie.. this looks like some kid of cofig file.. can u give me some easier command, how to update the source list?
[03:49] <Jimmey__> XoD
[03:49] <_mason> Jimmey__: Yes!
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> _mason,  it could be how your cdrom is mounted. Because I honestly havent noticed that 'issue' under linux.
[03:49] <Mr_GTi> will i experience probs using BT
[03:49] <Mr_GTi> ??
[03:49] <LinuxJones> james_xxx, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:49] <Mr_GTi> Bit Torrent
[03:49] <james_xxx> LinuxJones, do you think there is a good chance?
[03:49] <_mason> Dr_Willis: yeah when ever i copy files of a cd, all files are read only.. ill get back to you with after i look at my fstab
[03:50] <scifi> Mr_GTi: as far as i know BT works fien on ubuntu
[03:50] <Jimmey__> james_xxx, try a liveCD
[03:50] <scifi> fine*
[03:50] <LinuxJones> james_xxx, yeah tons of wireless cards can be used in Linux
[03:50] <ompaul> abrar, the lines start with http://br.archive make them http://archive.
[03:50] <LinuxJones> james_xxx,  what kind of card do you have ?
[03:50] <ompaul> abrar, or use this  >> http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:51] <james_xxx> Jimmey__, why would i try a live CD when i have ubuntu installed on several machines? is there an advantage in setting up WiFi with the liveCD?
[03:51] <Jimmey__> james_xxx, from your question, I assumed you had little Ubuntu experience. Sorry.
[03:51] <james_xxx> LinuxJones, it is a linksys WUSB54GS. it is a USB network adapter.
[03:51] <_mason> Dr_Willis: Or maby it could be that my CD Drive is not mounted.. ( its not in fstab, just appears when i put in a cd )
[03:52] <Mr_GTi> Why is Ubantu so much more secure???     is it just because there are less viruses etc. for linux than windows???????
[03:52] <_mason> wait
[03:52] <_mason> no
[03:52] <_mason> Ahh, yes it is
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> _mason,  just tested it with kde.. no problems like that.   /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0   - is in my fstab
[03:52] <IceLink> Hello there
[03:52] <Jimmey__> Mr_GTi, let me find a link
[03:52] <_mason> Dr_Willis: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[03:52] <abrar> ompaul: after i tick whatever i need, i generate asource.lst file, and i replace the whole thing with my current file??? thats all? what to with the KEys?
[03:52] <ompaul> Mr_GTi, repeat after me Ubuntu the letter a is NOT in there
[03:52] <IceLink> Maybe someone can help me with the Ubuntu Installation
[03:53] <james_xxx> Jimmey__, no problem, even though i use ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu, and love it, i am nowhere NEAR experienced lol
[03:53] <Mr_GTi> Ubuntu.....    Lmao
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> Mr_GTi,  Linux is  designed to be more secure from the start. *the foundation of the os is more secure*  :P
[03:53] <_mason> Dr_Willis: Mine is setup exactly like that
[03:53] <Mr_GTi> aHHHHH
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> _mason,  not sure what to tell ya then.
[03:53] <ompaul> abrar, leave out your country code
[03:53] <_mason> Yet, still 100% files are read only when they are copied off
[03:54] <Jimmey__> Mr_GTi, http://forms.theregister.co.uk/search/?q=Linux%20VS%20Windows%20security&first=25
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> _mason,  try  copying them with a different file manager/tool.
[03:54] <_mason> Dr_Willis: Is there some kind of 'report-bug' system in ubuntu?
[03:54] <scifi> Mr_GTi: alot of apps u can download and install all with one command like "sudo apt-get install "appname", just think how many mouse-clicks that would take in windows :)
[03:54] <_mason> How would i do that?
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> _mason,  install a different file manager, or use the shell. :P could try kde and its stuff.. or xubuntu's stuff. or just apt-get install mc  - and use 'mc'
[03:55] <ompaul> Mr_GTi, grab the CD get back here and we will have you doing stuff you did not you could in minutes :)
[03:55] <IceLink> I just tell you my prob:
[03:55] <LinuxJones> james_xxx,  looks like your going to need to use ndiswrapper and the windows driver to get that card up and running
[03:56] <_mason> Dr_Willis: Yeah command line ftw, but not fastest procedure, ill have a look at mc, ( on a side note, i dont like KDE at all )
[03:56] <james_xxx> LinuxJones, ok i have ndiswrapper, although i don't know how to use it
[03:56] <IceLink> I want to install Ubuntu. So I press ENTER for the default installation. Than it does someone and a lot of texts come ^_^ But suddenly, it stops. Now i can enter something^^ The last thing which i see is that something mudt be wrong with the controller IRQ
[03:56] <_mason> Gnome fanboy
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> _mason,  your loss. :P
[03:56] <scifi> one thing i havent found yet, is how to search my system for a particular file, any commands/gui tools i can use guys ?
[03:56] <Jimmey__> scifi, locate
[03:56] <scifi> lol ty
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> scifi,  locate   and  find
[03:57] <abrar> ompaul: leaving out my cntry code wudnt create trouble?
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> actually i thought gnome and kde both had a find type tool as well.
[03:58] <ompaul> abrar, it is your local country code that is creating the problem at the moment
[03:58] <scifi> Dr_Willis: couldnt see one in nautilus or anywhere else
[03:58] <Subhuman> hey, I have a pci sound card but my microphone is USB. How do I get Ubuntu to see both of them?
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> scifi,  it may be a dapper thing. :P
[03:58] <ompaul> abrar, which is why I said remove it from the file
[03:58] <Subhuman> I can't get it to see both, either one or the other.
[03:58] <michael> how do I enable the "universe" packages?
[03:58] <scifi> Dr_Willis: my mistake, theres a "search for files" option in places lol
[03:58] <_mason> Dr_Willis: Though i must say.. i do like Kopete, its quite a nice msn-alt
[03:59] <scifi> learn something new everyday :x
[03:59] <abrar> ompaul: ure right.. i was thinking that too. the repository that is creating problem is my BD based...
[03:59] <IceLink> hey _mason, don't highlight me ^_^
[03:59] <IceLink> Does anybody know something about the ubuntu installation?
[03:59] <Jimmey__> IceLink, no
[04:00] <Jimmey__> XoD
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> IceLink,  thats a little vague.
[04:00] <abrar> ompaul: what to do abt the key thing? .. it says something abt installing a GPG key in the first line@
[04:00] <Blue89> am I voiced now? sorry about the nickname
[04:00] <IceLink> Dr_Willis what does this mean^^
[04:00] <IceLink> I dont speak enough good english
[04:00] <ompaul> abrar, don't worry about it, just get the file in place first
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> IceLink,  be more exacting in your question.
[04:00] <abrar> ompaul: ok.. thanks.
[04:00] <IceLink> ok
[04:00] <IceLink> i postet it before but i post it again^^
[04:00] <scifi> Icelink, where r u from? there may be a relevant channel for ur language
[04:00] <Jimmey__> IceLink, were are you from?
[04:01] <IceLink> I want to install Ubuntu. So I press ENTER for the default installation. Than it does someone and a lot of texts come ^_^ But suddenly, it stops. Now i can enter something^^ The last thing which i see is that something mudt be wrong with the controller IRQ
[04:01] <_mason> IceLink: Hey ?
[04:01] <scifi> lol
[04:01] <IceLink> I'm from Germany but in #ubuntu-de noone can help me
[04:01] <scifi> hmmm
[04:01] <scifi> uu sure ?
[04:01] <IceLink> yes
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> IceLink,  you really need to be more specific in the details.
[04:01] <IceLink> hm...
[04:01] <scifi> "text" is not very specific icelink
[04:02] <IceLink> could you follow me to the installation?, Dr_Willis
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> 'controller irq wrong' seems to imply a hardware issue/conflict
[04:02] <IceLink> I think the Text is just the text which is shown normally
[04:02] <IceLink> usually
[04:02] <Blue89> now am I voiced?
[04:02] <nickrud> Blue89, yes
[04:03] <Blue89> I said something before but nobody answered
[04:03] <IceLink> Ok, I try it again and tell you more specific, kay?
[04:03] <FeestBijtje> Blue89, whats the question
[04:03] <scifi> Blue89, we cant always  answer first time
[04:03] <Blue89> how do I enable universe packages
[04:03] <FeestBijtje> Blue89, mabe i could help you out (no garantee)
[04:03] <FeestBijtje> lol
[04:03] <FeestBijtje> Blue89, follow this link its multiverse and universe:
[04:03] <abrar> ompaul: ive got the file.. hot to open it in gedit.. command???
[04:04] <abrar> ***HOW**
[04:04] <james_xxx> LinuxJones, i have the driver to my usb adapter installed, but i do not think that my system is recognizing the adapter
[04:04] <scifi> abrar: sudo gedit filename
[04:04] <nickrud> !tell Blue89 about universe
[04:04] <nickrud> Blue89, you should have a pm with a link in it
[04:04] <abrar> the file is the SOURCE list of the repos.. the complete location please???
[04:05] <scifi> i forget, only a noobie :P
[04:05] <nickrud> abrar, /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:05] <LinuxJones> james_xxx, using ndiswrapper ?
[04:05] <scifi> its there :P
[04:05] <james_xxx> LinuxJones, yes
[04:05] <abrar> ompaul: where is the full location of the SOUCE list file???
[04:05] <LinuxJones> james_xxx, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:05] <FeestBijtje> Blue89, go to console type: sudo synaptic
[04:06] <abrar> ompaul, sude gedit <then what???>
[04:06] <jpjacobs> abrar /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:06] <abrar> THANKS
[04:06] <nickrud> *sniffs* ;)
[04:06] <LinuxJones> james_xxx, the do sudo network-admin your card should be listed in there and you can configure it to get online.
[04:06] <FeestBijtje> Blue89, Then go to: Settings > Repositories > Click on "add"
[04:07] <james_xxx> linuxj, i will try that, thanks.
[04:07] <scifi> Mr_Gti: not much better in the UK :p
[04:07] <LinuxJones> james_xxx, good luck
[04:07] <Hobbsee> Mr_GTi: say what?  what isp?
[04:08] <Mr_GTi> Unwired
[04:08] <Mr_GTi> ripwave Technology
[04:08] <Mr_GTi> www.unwired.com
[04:08] <james_xxx> LinuxJones, i got some errors when i sudo'ed network-admin
[04:08] <IceLink2> hello again
[04:08] <IceLink2> So
[04:09] <IceLink2> I tell you more specific, ok?
[04:09] <IceLink2> I boot from CD. Than there is "For the default installation, press ENTER."
[04:09] <IceLink2> I press Enter
[04:09] <LinuxJones> james_xxx, System >> Administration >> Networking (enter your user password)
[04:09] <IceLink2> then there is written 2 times "Loading /install..."
[04:10] <IceLink2> 2 different files
[04:10] <IceLink2> than the whole screen turns black
[04:10] <Mr_GTi> im downloading at 60KB flat p/sec   on a 512k connection
[04:10] <LinuxJones> IceLink2, who old is your computer ?
[04:10] <IceLink2> then there comes a lot of text, every line starts with "[NUMBER:"
[04:10] <IceLink2> 1 year
[04:10] <IceLink2> every time a different number
[04:11] <james_xxx> LinuxJones, i will try that. here are the error messages i got, if  you're interested: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14389
[04:11] <IceLink2> then there is something like this:
[04:11] <LinuxJones> IceLink2, do you know what kind of hard driver controller it uses, like ide or sata ?
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mr_GTi, nothing to snif at
[04:11] <IceLink2> "[52.959 ohci.hcd: Unlick after no-IRQ? Controller is probably using the wrong IRQ"
[04:11] <IceLink2> i don't know LinuxJones
[04:11] <munki> Somebody got a old ver of Cedega ?
[04:12] <IceLink2> but i think ide @ linuxjones
[04:12] <Mr_GTi> QUestion.......     What download speed should i be looking at on a 512k connection????
[04:12] <LinuxJones> james_xxx, are you running Breezy and have you upgraded yoru system to the latest packages ?
[04:12] <IceLink2> it's an AMD Athlon 64
[04:12] <james_xxx> linux, yes and yes
[04:12] <Abou> Mr_GTi, 512/8 max
[04:13] <james_xxx> LinuxJones, yes and yes
[04:13] <LinuxJones> IceLink2, I would go into your systems bios and reset to defaults then try again
[04:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mr_GTi, 54k/s
[04:13] <IceLink2> reset to defaults, ok?
[04:13] <abrar> i changed the origincal source.list file.. still SAME msg!! what should i do? http://bd.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[04:13] <Mr_GTi> is that 54"KB"???
[04:13] <IceLink2> ok wait
[04:13] <LinuxJones> james_xxx, log out of gnome then log back in again
[04:13] <IceLink2> If i don't return, i made it^^
[04:13] <LinuxJones> IceLink2, yeah try that
[04:13] <Mr_GTi> cause im averaging 60KB
[04:14] <james_xxx> LinuxJones, i am using KDE, should i still do the same?
[04:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mr_GTi, its 60 Kilobytes. x8 to get kilobits
[04:14] <LinuxJones> IceLink2, ohh your on kde
[04:14] <dsl__> hi
[04:14] <dsl__> i need help for reinstallin grub
[04:14] <Mr_GTi> ahhhh
[04:14] <dsl__> i have problems using the live DSL
[04:14] <dsl__> *damns small linux(
[04:14] <james_xxx> i like DSL
[04:14] <charles_> Anyone know how to get a mouse wheel to function?
[04:15] <flapane> yep mate but...
[04:15] <flapane> if i try to mount as root partition
[04:15] <flapane> my dev/sda6 with ubuntu
[04:15] <flapane> it says sda6 no valid block device
[04:15] <flapane> i am going to be crazy
[04:15] <LinuxJones> james_xxx, sorry your on kde, I think there is a kwifimanager for setting up your wireless card
[04:16] <flapane> what would you suggest
[04:16] <abrar> HELP!! W: Couldn't stat source package list http://bd.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/bd.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:16] <Subhuman> charles_, do you have a microsoft optical mouse?
[04:16] <_mason> Dr_Willis: Well, Metal Slug was not a DOS application.. i thought i was.. mistaken, its an old arcade game ( quite awesome ) but wine isnt supported on Amd64 bit os'es
[04:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> abrar, try in 30 minutes
[04:16] <james_xxx> LinuxJones, should i not have been using ndiswrapper on KDE?
[04:16] <charles_> Logitech G5 laser mouse
[04:16] <charles_> Scroll wheel isn't functioning at all.
[04:17] <Subhuman> charles_, I ask because sometimes when I restart, i have no middle click or scroll wheel
[04:17] <Abou> is there a way I can get nautilus to display the path (in a way I can copy it and paste it to a shell for example)
[04:17] <Subhuman> and I have to plug a wired mouse in, scroll the wheel on that mouse, then replug my normal mouse in and it works 100%
[04:17] <nzx> hey guys, i followed the instructions to get my creative webcam instant working, but my system still freezes, can someone help ?
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> _mason,  arcade games - check out MAME
[04:18] <charles_> Well the middle button works just fine.
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> _mason,  you can play the original with Mame. :P
[04:18] <charles_> I do know there are 7 buttons on here
[04:18] <Mr_GTi> HANDS UP WHO THINKS ubUntu is better than osx?????
[04:18] <carradoon> :)
[04:18] <charles_> the side button the two main the left/right on the wheel the in on the wheel and the up down clicks.
[04:18] <GnarusLeo> Hello! I have ubuntu on my hp pavilion laptop, with ATI Radeon r250 (9000 m9) ... and I am trying to dualview my desktop with a 32" widescreen LCD monitor ... how would I approach for this? The ATI driver utility thing doesnt do anything when I try to use it ..
[04:18] <Abou> Mr_GTi, what's osx?
[04:18] <charles_> 8 if you count all those.
[04:18] <Mr_GTi> MAC OSX
[04:19] <GnarusLeo> Correction: I have dualview now, but the resolution is fucked up, the LCD TV shows about 7/10 of my display ..
[04:19] <slackern> Abou: click control+l to show the input field.
[04:19] <james_xxx> kubuntu is definitely close to being equal with OSX, but i wouldn't say better... yet... but after a few more upgrades i think it might be there
[04:19] <charles_> Where in Ubuntu are the settings for the scroll wheel? I can't find any referrance to them.
[04:19] <GnarusLeo> Especially cuts the left-right edges
[04:19] <slackern> Abou: when you got nautilus open somewhere.
[04:20] <Abou> slackern cheers! that's what I need!
[04:20] <|IceLink|> Hello
[04:20] <|IceLink|> I returned, so i didn't master it^^
[04:20] <mormoloc> what command should i use to find out how much space my HDD has?
[04:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> mormoloc, df -h
[04:21] <Abou> mormoloc , du
[04:21] <|IceLink|> linuxjones it didn't work
[04:21] <|IceLink|> the same problem like before
[04:21] <LinuxJones> james_xxx, no ndiswrapper is a kernel level thing not desktop related
[04:21] <mormoloc> 10x all
[04:21] <LinuxJones> IceLink2, ;(
[04:21] <|IceLink|> ya?
[04:22] <|IceLink|> this server has IceLink and IceLink2 already
[04:22] <|IceLink|> this is dumb^^
[04:22] <|IceLink|> so i have to change my nick erverytime
[04:22] <Mr_GTi> Is a Kernell like the windows registery??????
[04:22] <james_xxx> linuxj, that is what i thought. KWiFiManager does not detect any wireless network
[04:22] <Mr_GTi> I probably sound like an idiot
[04:22] <Mr_GTi> lol
[04:22] <james_xxx> LinuxJones, that is what i thought but kwifimanager detectes nothing
[04:22] <|IceLink|> So then
[04:22] <Abou> Mr_GTi, no the kernel is the bulk of the operating system
[04:22] <|IceLink|> What to do now^^
[04:22] <GnarusLeo> Is Laptop the same as notebook?
[04:23] <|IceLink|> i think so
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> Mr_GTi,  may be worth while to do some reading on the different Linux tutorial/beginner sites.
[04:23] <Abou> Mr_GTi, in windows 32, you should compare it to Kernel32.dll, GDI32.dll, user32.dll (and some other library)
[04:23] <Mr_GTi> NO gnarus leo
[04:23] <|IceLink|> Dr_Willis maybe u know what to do^^
[04:23] <LinuxJones> james_xxx, have a look about half way down, might be of some help >> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=79
[04:24] <|IceLink|> did you read my more specific "instruction" o0 @ Dr_Willis
[04:24] <Mr_GTi> A notebook doesnt have a battery and needs to be pluged in, where a "laptop" is truly portable
[04:24] <Mr_GTi> lol
[04:25] <GnarusLeo> How do I unpack a .rpm file?
[04:25] <charles_> anyone know how to get a g5 laser mouses's scroll wheel working?
[04:25] <|IceLink|> with an .rpm-depacker xD
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> |IceLink|,  nope. :P been busy
[04:25] <Abou> GnarusLeo, use alien
[04:25] <|IceLink|> Do you listen now^^ dr_willis
[04:25] <|IceLink|> Ok...
[04:25] <|IceLink|> "For the default installation, press ENTER"
[04:25] <GnarusLeo> Mr_GTi, , ok .. so If I am trying to download some display drivers, I shouldnt choose "notebook" ?
[04:25] <|IceLink|> I press ENTER
[04:26] <|IceLink|> "Loading /install..." << 2 times
[04:26] <|IceLink|> then the screen turns black
[04:26] <Mr_GTi> gnarusLeo, no it wont make a duifference
[04:26] <Mr_GTi> lol
[04:26] <|IceLink|> then a lot of text, every line starts wirh "[NUMBER:"
[04:26] <|IceLink|> until this line:
[04:26] <GnarusLeo> Mr_GTi, hm? So I should then? :)
[04:27] <|IceLink|> "[52.959 049 ohci_hcd: Unlick after no-IRQ? Controller is probably using the wrong IRQ"
[04:27] <charles_> lol... alright I guess I've got no scroll wheel then
[04:27] <dumbhead> can anyone help me with parted to resize an extended partition?
[04:27] <charles_> back to windows.
[04:27] <dumbhead> i am booted off a live cd and still parted complains that the extended partition is being used
[04:27] <dumbhead> any pointers?
[04:27] <|IceLink|> Dr_Willis did you listen this time?
[04:28] <Mr_GTi> I have a MX1000 Laser mouse will i experience problems????   lol
[04:28] <Tuzlo> how does one get teh md5 value of their password?
[04:28] <_mason> 'the
[04:28] <GnarusLeo> Tuzlo, google a md5 generator
[04:28] <_mason> hey
[04:28] <Ztripez> Mr_GTi >> i use the MX 1000 and i got no problem with it.. :D
[04:28] <Mr_GTi> w0000t
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> |IceLink|,  ohci is related to the USB controller/devices.  - its possible thats not an error at all.. but somthing more basic. likd a badly burnt cdrom is the problem
[04:28] <panreyes> hello
[04:29] <dumbhead> Tuzlo: echo <passwd> | md5
[04:29] <panreyes> is any MOTU or REVU uploader around here?
[04:29] <Mr_GTi> Ztripez, its a gorgeous mouse hey??
[04:29] <Mr_GTi>  lol
[04:30] <|IceLink|> a badly burned CD-Rom o0
[04:30] <|IceLink|> why this
[04:30] <Ztripez> Mr_GTi >> yeah.. i like it alot.. and my diNovo keyboard :D
[04:32] <Ztripez> :P
[04:32] <Mr_GTi> ok all im out.....     I will probably be back tomorrow night with my comments on ubUnto......
[04:33] <Mr_GTi> hehe
[04:33] <Mr_GTi> im 14% done
[04:33] <GnarusLeo> how do I run a .run file? :)
[04:33] <Mr_GTi> THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP
[04:33] <joedj> GnarusLeo: it's probably a shell script;  sh file.run
[04:33] <Hobbsee> panreyes: what did you want uploaded?
[04:34] <GnarusLeo> ok, thanks
[04:34] <panreyes> Hobbsee, thanks for answering :) I want to upload a open source game I have done
[04:34] <Hobbsee> panreyes: is it in debian?
[04:34] <panreyes> the game's name is PiX Pang
[04:34] <panreyes> nop
[04:35] <Hobbsee> it'll have to wait till edgy...
[04:36] <panreyes> no problem
[04:36] <panreyes> but, by the way
[04:37] <Subhuman> #ubuntu+1
[04:37] <_mason> I have this article http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39513 about how to install windows in ubuntu, but its for hoary, will i have any issues installing with breezy?
[04:37] <Hobbsee> panreyes: ask in #ubuntu-motu about packaging
[04:37] <itrebal> how can i get AAC, MPC, and MOD audio playback support?
[04:38] <|IceLink|> DR_Willis, do you have another solution?
[04:38] <rocks> how to you connect a usb webcam
[04:45] <|neo> i came to say thanks to some one that have tryed to help me up with the apache ishue finaly working
[04:51] <eduard> hello
[04:51] <_mason> Qick question, im trying to compile qemu for my x86_64 distro, how do i go about compilling the source with a gcc version 3.4
[04:51] <eduard> does anyone here run ubuntu on a laptop ?
[04:52] <_mason> make install, doesnt work :P
[04:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> _mason, install build-essential
[04:52] <eduard> i am running ubuntu and i think it uses up the battery quicker that XP
[04:52] <_mason> Thankyou
[04:52] <eduard> is this something anyone has seen ?
[04:53] <gordonjcp> it's possible
[04:53] <gordonjcp> maybe the XP kernel is using more aggressive battery saving techniques
[04:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> eduard, im running it on my lappy, but i never ran windows on here
[04:53] <gordonjcp> eduard: is your laptop correspondingly quicker?
[04:53] <_mason> Kamping_Kaiser: Did you mean apt-get install build-essential ?
[04:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> _mason, yeh. with sudo
[04:54] <nzx> hey, what does the 'quite' kernel option do ?
[04:54] <jvai> my laptop runs cooler than if it was on xp, batteries last about 1 hour & 20 mins, w/ power management off
[04:54] <_mason> i already have latest version
[04:54] <eduard> i don';t run windows antmore but i observed this when i went to linux
[04:54] <student> lord_mk118@yahoo.com
[04:54] <_mason> how to i build a binary with gcc-3.4
[04:54] <eduard> linux on the whole is ok on my laptop except for i think the start up process is longer
[04:55] <Frogzoo> eduard: many many people run ubuntu on laptops
[04:55] <nzx> _carl, do 'CC=gcc3.4' before you compile
[04:55] <nzx> _mason, do 'CC=gcc3.4' before you compile
[04:55] <_mason> Kamping_Kaiser: how do i build the binary with gcc-3.4 ?
[04:55] <_mason> 'build a
[04:56] <_mason> but how do i compile >
[04:56] <_mason> '?
[04:56] <Frogzoo> _mason: usually the makefile has an env variable CC - try 'export CC=gcc-3.4'
[04:57] <Frogzoo> _mason: then .configure, make etc.
[04:57] <pau> some one have ubuntu dapper?
[04:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> eduard, it is longer, but it doesnt lag after you start it
[04:57] <Frogzoo> !dapper
[04:57] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until than
[04:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> untill *then*
[04:57] <Frogzoo> eduard: you can speed boot times by disabling unneeded services
[04:58] <JoshRA> Anyone know how to tell amarok to output to dsp1, kde config i have dsp1 but it does not work
[04:58] <pau> i can't mound recordable cdrom
[04:58] <eduard> ok i will look into that too, the biggest problem is the battery life really
[04:58] <Frogzoo> pau: for dapper support -> #ubuntu+1
[04:58] <_mason> Frogzoo: Sorry youve lost me, when i 'export CC=gcc-3.4' it doesnt output anything, but no errors? where do i find .configure and do what with it?
[04:58] <eduard> are there no tweaks to improve battery life ?
[04:58] <Frogzoo> gordonjcp: turn the brightness down...
[04:59] <gordonjcp> Frogzoo: it's about eight years old...
[04:59] <gordonjcp> the battery is probably a bit tired
[04:59] <Frogzoo> gordonjcp: heh :)
[04:59] <Hobbsee> !tell _mason about compile
[05:00] <_mason> Thankyou Hobbsee
[05:00] <Frogzoo> _mason: what are you building? usually the process is '.configure ; make ; make install' ...
[05:00] <stianj> I need to pass "atapi_enabled=1" to the libata module... Since that module is in the initrd, it doesn't help to just update /etc/modprobe.d/options. Will it help to regenerate the initrd, and if so, is that only to do mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd-blabla?
[05:00] <roryy> it's ./configure, fwiw
[05:00] <Frogzoo> roryy: aye
[05:00] <gordonjcp> Frogzoo: I have an IBM Workpad Z50 - 133MHz MIPS processor - that runs for eight hours in NetBSD on its battery, and over two days in WinCE
[05:01] <cocox> IS THERE A WAY TO LOOK INTO MY UBUNTU WHO SCANNED THE PORTS OF MY PC ??????
[05:01] <Frogzoo> stianj: I'm thinking pass it as a kernel option from grub's boot.menu
[05:01] <roryy> there is certainly a way to turn off your caps lock
[05:01] <Frogzoo> stianj: I'm thinking pass it as a kernel option from grub's menu.lst
[05:01] <redguy> cocox: shouting will not get you an answer
[05:01] <Thread--> How can I install SDL on my Kubuntu?
[05:01] <cocox> redguy, ok
[05:02] <Frogzoo> gordonjcp: disable unneeded services for starters
[05:03] <stianj> Frogzoo: hmm. thanks, but it doesn't work.
[05:04] <Frogzoo> gordonjcp: also under linux you can play with 'swappiness' for extra battery life
[05:05] <_mason> Frogzoo: Qemu, but for now, that wiki link told me to 'apt-get build-dep <package>', Package = gemu-0.8.1 but i get an error  E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[05:05] <gordonjcp> Frogzoo: yeah
[05:05] <mike> hi all
[05:05] <eduard> what is swappiness ? i run ubuntu on an IBM T23 and expect 3hrs out of my battery  but i am getting less than 2hrs
[05:05] <gordonjcp> Frogzoo: I don't run Linux on any laptops yet though
[05:05] <void^> try laptop-mode-tools, quite useful for laptops.
[05:05] <_mason> Frogzoo: I already have the latest build-essential
[05:05] <Frogzoo> _mason: looks like you need to add a repo to the qemu source...
[05:05] <gordonjcp> Frogzoo: I had a bad experience setting up my wifi card in Linux, and went back to NetBSD
[05:06] <_mason> Frogzoo: Add a repository in Synaptic ?
[05:06] <_mason> or what?
[05:06] <eduard> void : where do i get that from "laptop-mode-tools"
[05:06] <_mason> to the source how?
[05:06] <Frogzoo> gordonjcp: wifi should be much improved in dapper supposedly
[05:06] <Frogzoo> _mason: indeed
[05:07] <gordonjcp> Frogzoo: I'll take some PCI bridge wifi cards home at some point and play
[05:07] <void^> eduard: shoult be available with apt.
[05:07] <_mason> Will the qemu have a link for the repositry
[05:07] <_mason> qemu website
[05:07] <Frogzoo> eduard: try google - /proc/sys/vm/swappiness - but best you know what you're doing
[05:08] <Gizmo_The_Great> Is anyone here ever installed the game Americas Army?
[05:08] <Frogzoo> _mason: afaik there's no apt source repos for qemu - just build from source without using apt - qemu's docs describe the process quite well
[05:08] <Frogzoo> !kqemu
[05:08] <_mason> Ok, will do
[05:08] <cocox> is there any log into the basic OS image of linux where i can find who is scanning my pc ports ???
[05:09] <Frogzoo> !tell _mason about kqemu
[05:09] <odog> hi
[05:09] <LinuxJones> _mason, qemu is in the universe repos
[05:09] <Frogzoo> cocox: install snort
[05:09] <odog> I could do with some help , i have jkust changed my home partion to map to a different drive now i cant logon, its sayiing the permissions are screwed up
[05:10] <Gizmo_The_Great> Suing Sound Juicer, what is th best audio format to use for the extraction from CD? The lossy format OGG or the losless format? I assumne lossless?
[05:10] <maddy> hiho
[05:10] <Gizmo_The_Great> Using Sound Juiicer that should read
[05:11] <LinuxJones> Guys for something very cool have a look at this video technology preview of Lowfat  >> http://macslow.thepimp.net/?page_id=18  (video at bottom)
[05:11] <Frogzoo> Gizmo_The_Great: as long as disk is infinite, lossless would always be preferable
[05:11] <LinuxJones> Sorry it's offtopic but it too cool !!
[05:11] <odog> I could do with some help , i have jkust changed my home partion to map to a different drive now i cant logon, its sayiing the permissions are screwed up, I have created a new user, that i have logged on with now, but when i add myself to the sudo group , i cant logon
[05:11] <kIOsk> http://nopaste.php-q.net/213692
[05:11] <kIOsk> any solution ?
[05:11] <Gizmo_The_Great> Frogzoo, thanks mate
[05:12] <cocox> Frogzoo, yes i know that i can install some IDS tool... but i want to know if there is a way to look any log without installing any IDS tool
[05:12] <Gizmo_The_Great> Has anyone here ever installed the game Americas Army on Linux?
[05:12] <Frogzoo> cocox: I think the answer's no
[05:12] <Frogzoo> Gizmo_The_Great: yw
[05:12] <Frogzoo> odog: best boot to recovery mode - you'll be root - fix your perms - then reboot
[05:13] <ailean> How can I install GRUB so that I can access both windows and ubuntu?  the windows bootloader has overwritten GRUB and now I can't get into my Linux system.  Reinstallation isn't an option.
[05:13] <odog> Frogzoo,
[05:13] <Gizmo_The_Great> Frogzoo, I have installed the armyopslinux250.run file and given it execute permissions and even tried running it as root, but it unpacks it, verifies it, then launches the grey GUI, but the 'Begin Install' button is alwasy greyed out
[05:14] <odog> when i have used failsafe and changed persm it still dont work, dont know what perms i should st ??
[05:14] <vinboy> how do I enable or disable my dual monitors without restarting X?
[05:14] <Frogzoo> !tell ailean about recoveringgrub
[05:14] <highvoltage> hmmm... on http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/ it says kubuntu in the page title
[05:14] <ailean> thanks Frogzoo
[05:14] <pm_> why i cant see my cd-r in the cdrecord -scanbus?
[05:14] <redguy> highvoltage: report it to the webmaster
[05:14] <Frogzoo> ailean: np, enjoy
[05:15] <Frogzoo> Gizmo_The_Great: no idea, sorry
[05:15] <Gizmo_The_Great> Frogzoo, OK. Does anyone else know about installing Americas Army on Ubuntu?
[05:15] <highvoltage> redguy: who is that?
[05:16] <partsguy> anyone know of an applet that would handle wifi networks that depending on the network use DHCP or static IP's currently I'm running gnome
[05:16] <Gizmo_The_Great> partsguy, I am using Wireless (WEP encryption) using both DHCP and assigned IPs
[05:16] <Ademan> anyone know why my laptop might not be powering down all the way on shutdown?
[05:16] <partsguy> seems like all the applets out there asume that everyone uses DHCP
[05:16] <redguy> highvoltage: don't remember his nick ATM, isn't there a 'webmaster' email link at the bottom of the page?
[05:16] <corey> can someone tell me where the keyring settings are?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> Ademan,  apci/apm not totally compatiable.
[05:16] <corey> i cant find it for the life of me
[05:17] <partsguy> but what I'm looking for a is a gui interface that I could add to the panel
[05:18] <highvoltage> redguy: nope
[05:18] <redguy> highvoltage: yeah, looking right now...
[05:19] <Gizmo_The_Great> Does anyone else know about installing the game Americas Army on Ubuntu? Sorry to repeat - just want to make sure everyone see's.
[05:19] <pm_> why i cant see my cd-r in the cdrecord -scanbus? what coud cause this? i can read cds from it.
[05:20] <highvoltage> pm_: i think the -scanbus only works if you're using scsi emulation
[05:20] <Megant> I need help with Nvidia FX 5200 and AV-out and TV
[05:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> Gizmo_The_Great, look it up onthe forums. i;m sure its meantioned
[05:20] <highvoltage> pm_: with ubuntu, you can just use the devicename as your device, eg. -dev /dev/hdc
[05:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> or the wiki
[05:20] <huraxprax> you don't need that anymore with 2.6 kernels
[05:21] <Gizmo_The_Great> Kamping_Kaiser, already tried that. No trace of a listing. Used many search terms
[05:21] <pm_> highvoltage: thanks
[05:21] <Megant> Anyone?
[05:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> Gizmo_The_Great, hm. i dont use it myself. i'[m just sure it was there :/
[05:21] <corey> omgggggg where is it
[05:22] <redguy> highvoltage: webmaster@ubuntulinux.org
[05:22] <redguy> highvoltage: http://www.ubuntu.com/feedback?highlight=%28webmaster%29
[05:22] <Gizmo_The_Great> Kamping_Kaiser, I will go and have another look. I was using Google search results - not tried ubuntuforums specifically yet.
[05:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> good luck
[05:23] <redguy> .msg ubotu aa
[05:23] <redguy> erm
[05:23] <Megant> With program 'tv' it says: konsole: cannot connect to X server :0.1
[05:23] <corey> noone knows where the keyring settings/config is?
[05:24] <redguy> corey: what are looking for?
[05:24] <corey> keyring settings
[05:25] <corey> whatever its called
[05:25] <Tuzlo> can someone tell me what a GD library is, I cant seem to get the right package installed
[05:25] <Chousuke> a
[05:25] <Chousuke> oops.
[05:25] <redguy> corey: hmm tried looking in ~/.gnupg/ ?
[05:25] <corey> theres not a gui area?
[05:26] <corey> like a config panel
[05:26] <redguy> corey: no idea
[05:26] <corey> theres gotta be somewhere ;/
[05:26] <redguy> corey: you're using KDE?
[05:26] <corey> no
[05:27] <Megant> my tv doesn't show up anything
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> all gnome configs are stored in the .gnome* and .gconf* dirs
[05:28] <odog> should i add a user to the /etc/passwd file as a sudo group user for admin perms??
[05:28] <khelsys> hi
[05:28] <khelsys> does anyone know how to make a custom icon set?
[05:29] <khelsys> contact me in private plis :) i can hear you better :)
[05:29] <eapache> I can't seem to run executables... I double click them and nothing happens. I have checked nautilus options and selected 'run', not view...
[05:30] <andrejkw> eapache: what kind of executables?
[05:30] <andrejkw> eapache: because some may need to be run in the terminal
[05:30] <jpjacobs> maybe they arent gui things...
[05:30] <eapache> the type just says "executable"
[05:31] <Floid> Are they +x?
[05:31] <eapache> the mime type is "application/x-executable" if that makes a difference
[05:31] <andrejkw> eapache: that doesn't mean they contain a User Interface
[05:31] <odog> how do i give a user permissions to be a sudo user
[05:31] <odog> ???
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> The shell is your friend. :P
[05:31] <Megant> odog: /etc/sudoers
[05:31] <odog> thanx Megant
[05:31] <redguy> odog: visudo
[05:31] <eapache> I know it does though, it is the thunderbird 1.5 updater
[05:32] <Morrowyn> is it me, or does dapper drake seems to operate a bit faster than 5.10?
[05:32] <eapache> and when i run thunderbird, it's still the old version
[05:32] <Megant> odog: or add it to admin group
[05:32] <dashriKe> I still can't get my ethernet to work at all on my ubuntu boot
[05:32] <_mason> Does anyone know if i can use USB devices with qemu
[05:32] <_mason> running windows xp
[05:32] <odog> cheers Megant
[05:32] <redguy> Megant: the sudoers man page specifically says that you should only edit /etc/sudoers with visudo
[05:33] <andrejkw> I am having a problem cross-compiling. It always fails with "subs-2.sed line 21: unterminated `s' command".
[05:33] <andrejkw> Does anyone know how to fix that?
[05:34] <redguy> andrejkw: well, maybe there's a problem with the subs-2.sed file on line 21 ?
[05:34] <_mason> i can fit a 5 cent piece in my left nostril, laying down
[05:34] <andrejkw> redguy: the file disappears, after the confugure script finishes.
[05:34] <andrejkw> redguy: but Makefile ends up empty.
[05:35] <uralmasha> hi
[05:35] <redguy> andrejkw: what are you using for cross-compiling?
[05:35] <andrejkw> redguy: uClibc, I am cross-compiling for mipsel.
[05:35] <_mason> !tell _mason about samba
[05:36] <uralmasha> i tried Dapper-7. The screen is locked. What is the default password for user "ubuntu"?
[05:36] <redguy> andrejkw: any cc environment? scratchbox? oe's bitbake?
[05:36] <andrejkw> redguy: huh, what do you mean?
[05:37] <khelsys> does anyone know how to make a custom icon set?
[05:37] <khelsys>  contact me in private plis :) i can hear you better :)
[05:37] <dashriKe> any ideas on how I can get my ethernet working?
[05:37] <andrejkw> redguy: I am using the uClibc Buildroot :\
[05:37] <spanglesontoast> does anyone have dialog spare
[05:38] <administrador> iai gnt blz
[05:38] <redguy> andrejkw: though I can't propably help you since I know almost nothing about cross-compiling I think that you might be interested like scratchbox
[05:38] <andrejkw> redguy: can it cross compile for mipsel?
[05:38] <redguy> andrejkw: s/like/something like/
[05:38] <Frogzoo> andrejkw: maybe take a look at openwrt ?
[05:38] <eapache> I can't run executables. I double-click and nothing happens. I have checked nautilus options and they are supposed to run, not view.
[05:39] <redguy> andrejkw: also, try to ask the uClibc people..
[05:39] <eapache> anyone know what's wrong
[05:39] <andrejkw> Frogzoo: that's what I am cross-compiling for.
[05:39] <eapache> ?
[05:39] <khelsys> does anyone know how to make a custom icon set?
[05:39] <khelsys>  contact me in private plis :) i can hear you better :)
[05:39] <Frogzoo> andrejkw: so use the openwrt tool chain
[05:39] <andrejkw> Frogzoo: I am... it's based on uClibc, isn't it?
[05:39] <odog> hi , how can i bring up the add user gnome plug in please from the shell??????
[05:39] <Frogzoo> andrejkw: I believe so
[05:40] <eapache> There is supposed to be a user interface,
[05:40] <Subhuman> odog
[05:40] <odog> yes Subhuman
[05:40] <Subhuman> odog, you can add a user from the shell with the command "adduser"
[05:40] <Subhuman> and itll walk you through it.
[05:40] <duneatreides> hello everyone
[05:40] <andrejkw> Frogzoo:I have no idea why the configure script faills with such a stupid error.
[05:40] <odog> i know but i wanna use the nice litttle gui
[05:40] <foxpaul> hi all - does anyone know if it's possible to copy a file with it's full path, to a new location?
[05:40] <Subhuman> odog, the CLI version is very easy and basic.
[05:40] <duneatreides> I'm curious, I am new to Linux and what is a kernel image?
[05:40] <andrejkw> Frogzoo: I have eliminated so many errors already, and now this... soemthing I can't beat down.
[05:41] <Subhuman> odog, just do "sudo adduser usernameyouwanttoadd" and thats it really.
[05:41] <odog> ok Subhuman how about the disk managing tool, ?? that has disapeared from my menu
[05:41] <odog> i would like to call it from the shell
[05:41] <Subhuman> umm, well did you unistall it? or jus gone from the menu?
[05:41] <Frogzoo> andrejkw: dunno - use to work for RC3... just be sure you're using the right versn of gcc
[05:41] <khelsys> does anyone know how to make a custom icon set?
[05:41] <khelsys>  contact me in private plis :) i can hear you better :)
[05:42] <eapache> I can't run executables. I double-click and nothing happens. I have checked nautilus options and they are supposed to run, not view. Any one know what's wrong?
[05:42] <Subhuman> odog, the disk admin program is called "disks-admin" so "gksu disks-admin" from the shell would do it.
[05:42] <andrejkw> Frogzoo: I am, the compiler test passes just fine, except right at the end where it generates the Makefiles, it fails with some idiotic sed error.
[05:42] <odog> Cheers Subhuman
[05:43] <Subhuman> odog, if you push Alt+F2 you can execute commands as well.
[05:43] <Subhuman> much like windows "run"
[05:43] <dashriKe> how does one install ethernet drivers [or equivalent]  in ubuntu?
[05:43] <odog> nice 1 Subhuman
[05:43] <Jimmey__> I've just deleted the partition that grub was stationed on - And I've got a working partition that I can't get into because "The boot sector of the disk is invalid". How can I get grub working? It's installed on /dev/hda1 ( the working partition ), and I've tried grub-install /dev/hda to no avail.
[05:43] <Frogzoo> andrejkw: might be worth trying the prior release - might be a bug - also check versions for stuff like bison/yacc/make
[05:43] <Tuzlo> fdisk /mbr ????
[05:44] <Frogzoo> andrejkw: also the openwrt forums are very helpful
[05:44] <odog> Subhuman, hwat is the best way to remap my home partion to a new drive???
[05:44] <andrejkw> Frogzoo: ok, thanks.
[05:44] <javatard> I installed ubuntu on my laptop. Package manager tells me i have updates, but when I type in my root password it opens nothing. Going to synaptic package manger wont open anything either
[05:44] <HunterZ> hi
[05:44] <osotogari> Hey all, im having trouble burning some CDs with my external USB burner and GnomeBaker, it gives the error that "Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second."
[05:45] <TokenBad> anyone know how to go from cd to mp3 in ubuntu?
[05:45] <duneatreides> What is a kernel image?
[05:45] <Subhuman> odog, I gotta go, best ask someone else, itz easy to do. later
[05:45] <odog> cheers Subhuman
[05:45] <eapache> I can't run executables. I double-click and nothing happens. I have checked nautilus options and they are supposed to run, not view. Any one know what's wrong?
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> eapache,  run them from the shell and see what they say 'executables' is vague
[05:46] <osotogari> anyone>
[05:46] <eapache> I'm new to linux, how do I run from the shell?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> !bash
[05:47] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> !shell
[05:47] <ubotu> from memory, shell is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> eapache,  run the 'terminal' program and you got a shell.  ./programnameofexe would run it. What are you truing to run Exactly?
[05:48] <javatard> I installed ubuntu on my laptop. Package manager tells me i have updates, but when I type in my root password it opens nothing. Going to synaptic package manger wont open anything either. I switched to root in terminal and still it sounds as if it (package manager) will open, but it doesnt
[05:48] <ferronica> gnomefreak: r u free???
[05:48] <eapache> im trying to run the thunderbird updater
[05:48] <wykis-> I got a live CD. Now how do I get my network i/f running?? I see my e100 module being loaded but it is not being used. what could I do?
[05:48] <ferronica> gnomefreak: need some help from you if u got some time??
[05:49] <ferronica> hello any one help me please????
[05:49] <corey> anyone successful in getting xchat or konversation to minimize to the panel?
[05:49] <sarek> hi
[05:49] <dashriKe> any ideas on how I can get my ethernet working?
[05:50] <javatard> !package manager
[05:50] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, javatard
[05:50] <ferronica> Dr_Willis: r u goona help me??
[05:50] <wykis-> ferronica: stop using "u" and "r". it's disrespectful because you show how lazy you are to write "you" or "are" to the person
[05:50] <andrejkw> dashriK: maybe telling us what hardware would help...
[05:50] <ferronica> lpl
[05:50] <sarek> does anyone know where to get (unofficial) ubuntu packages for vim 7?
[05:50] <eapache> the file I'm trying to run is on my desktop...
[05:50] <DShepherd> wykis-: huh??
[05:51] <dashriKe> DFI Lanparty NF2 Ultra Rev B, AMD2200+, 2x1024 Samsung PC3200, lots of fun stuff
[05:51] <wykis-> DShepherd ?
[05:51] <DShepherd> lazy? u and r? when did that become a thing of disrespect?
[05:51] <javatard> My package manager will not open with my root password. It sounds as if it will but never opens, is this an install error on my part?
[05:51] <andrejkw> javatard: looks like it
[05:51] <wykis-> DShepherd what's the problem not letting you talk in a full language?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> DShepherd,  since always.. :P
[05:52] <osotogari> Hey all, im having trouble burning some CDs with my external USB burner and GnomeBaker, it gives the error that "Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second."
[05:52] <DShepherd> javatard: have you tried your own password?
[05:52] <wykis-> DShepherd some people don't like reading one letter by one
[05:52] <sarek> javatard: tried using your user password instead? It's probably set to use sudo ... where you have to use your own pass
[05:52] <andrejkw> javatard: go into terminal and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" (without the quotes).
[05:52] <javatard> I tried my own, and it sounds like it will run, my root password gives me an error of wrong password
[05:52] <andrejkw> javatard: go into terminal and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" (without the quotes).
[05:53] <wykis-> DShepherd: can u spek in teh full langz evr? itz so lame when i tlk lyk that
[05:53] <javatard> ok
[05:53] <wykis-> :)))))
[05:53] <DShepherd> wykis-: :-)
[05:53] <sarek> javatard: log out, relog and then try youyr own pass. It didn't work for me neither, when I fiorst entered a wrong pass
[05:53] <wykis-> why is everyone using sudo all the time? I am in root by just going "sudo passwd root" and then "su" with that password :)
[05:53] <Polibio> hello
[05:53] <ompaul> !sudo
[05:53] <ubotu> I guess sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:53] <dashriKe> linux is smarter than me
[05:54] <ompaul> wykis-, ^^^^
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> wykis-,  you are one of the FEW then that know enough linux - to know to do that. :P
[05:54] <javatard> Well from the terminal it is working with what andrejkw told me
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> wykis-,  you can just do 'sudo passwd' :P save 4 letters
[05:54] <javatard> Just curious why it didnt work in gui, I'll have to research it
[05:54] <wykis-> Dr_Willis: few? Ubuntu is just populaized around the world and more newbies use it. That's all. Join #gentoo and learn some GNU/Linux :)
[05:54] <andrejkw> javatard: have it upgrade
[05:54] <wykis-> :)
[05:54] <andrejkw> javatard: and tne try this...
[05:55] <ompaul> !offtopic
[05:55] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[05:55] <javatard> I did, it is working. Thank you. I was unaware of the && apt-get upgrade
[05:55] <javatard> thanks
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> wykis-,  i used gentoo for quite some time.. and dumped it.. I mean you are one of the FEW that ask about that - that know enogh to relize how trivial it is to set it back to 'normal'
[05:55] <andrejkw> javatard: wait one sec, I'll have you try one more thing.
[05:55] <crimsun> wykis-: There's More Than One Way To Do It.
[05:55] <javatard> ok
[05:55] <javatard> adrejkw: ok
[05:55] <robinl1> hey, how to get my logitech dual action gamepad to work under linux?
[05:55] <wykis-> Dr_Willis: now, my gentoo crashed ;/ it's X definately
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> robinl1,  how are you testing it?
[05:56] <Polibio> I have 3CRWE154G72 wifi card, it works in kernel 2.6.15-19 but it does NOT work in the new kernels 2.6.15-21 to 23   What can I do?
[05:56] <ompaul> wykis-, sudo is used and its rational is talked about on the wiki, IF a user asks for a root password we point them to the wiki page, that is how we conduct business :-)
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> wykis-,  :P
[05:56] <wykis-> so i downloaded an ubuntu live cd :] 
[05:56] <robinl1> Dr_Willis: i am not
[05:56] <jikanter> how do you load yelp's symbol table when debigging in gdb?
[05:56] <jikanter> *debugging
[05:56] <meheren> I'm tyring to run a second monitor into my laptop but can't seem to set the configureation to have it as a second monitor instead of just a clone of the first one any help? (im on gnome)
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> robinl1,  so 'how to i get my gamepad to work.. that i have no game to test it in?' ?
[05:56] <wykis-> now i don't know how to setup my eth0 in ubuntu to use the device. How would i do it?
[05:57] <ompaul> jikanter, that is more a #ubuntu-motu type question
[05:57] <mo^> how can i reset my default keyboard layout? i played a bit with XGL and so i changed my layout (xmodmap)...
[05:57] <ompaul> wykis-, what kind of card is it?
[05:57] <jikanter> thanks
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> robinl1,  plug it in. check 'dmesg' to see if its  seen. and check /dev/input/js0  - if that is there  it shoudl be working.
[05:57] <balor_>  Is there a per-user eclipse plugin directory on Ubuntu?  i.e. $HOME/.eclipse/plugins or similar?
[05:57] <andrejkw> javatard: try typing "sudo apt-get remove synaptic && apt-get install synaptic" (without quotes), also selecy Y, when it prompts you about the changes.
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> robinl1,  sudo cat /dev/input/js0 (wiggle the stick, you should see garbate printed) - (ctrl C to quit) if so - it works.
[05:57] <andrejkw> javatard: then try opening the Package Manager again.
[05:57] <Polibio> I have 3CRWE154G72 wifi card, it works in kernel 2.6.15-19 but it does NOT work in the new kernels 2.6.15-21 to 23   What can I do to connect wirelessly again?
[05:58] <wykis-> ompaul: it's intel integrated card. I don't recall the name, the computer is in next room. It uses e100 kernel module but lsmod shows that it isnot in use by anything.
[05:58] <dashriKe> I have a DFI Lanparty mainboard, and I have had no luck getting either of the ethernet ports to work at all in Ubuntu
[05:58] <javatard> adrejkw : It is still updating in my terminal
[05:58] <isheep> !cli
[05:58] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[05:58] <andrejkw> javatard: after its done, type that command above, and hopefulyl it'll fix it
[05:59] <ompaul> wykis-, well strange as it may seem, click on System Administration Networking and see if you see your card there for a start, try to remember this is not gentoo so the methods we have for working with things might be a little different :-)
[05:59] <wykis-> aah! thanks, ompaul will try that out :)
[05:59] <meheren> I'm tyring to run a second monitor into my laptop but can't seem to set the configureation to have it as a second monitor instead of just a clone of the first one. any help? (im on gnome)
[05:59] <osotogari> Hey all, im having trouble burning some CDs with my external USB burner and GnomeBaker, it gives the error that "Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second." Can anyone help?
[05:59] <ompaul> wykis-, we aim for point click and Ohh look at the power
[06:00] <blue-frog> what command line can I use to know my actual display number pls?
[06:00] <Polibio> I have 3CRWE154G72 wifi card, it works in kernel 2.6.15-19 but it does NOT work in the new kernels 2.6.15-21 to 23   What can I do to connect wirelessly again?
[06:01] <robinl1> oh, so you just set the buttons of the gamepad in the app..
[06:01] <robinl1> i see..
[06:01] <andrejkw> blue-frog: echo $DISPLAY
[06:01] <robinl1> that gives me a lot of ideas, actually
[06:01] <blue-frog> ty
[06:01] <wykis-_> Here! I am running internet now :)
[06:01] <proxosi> hi guys
[06:01] <proxosi> how you mount hd
[06:02] <proxosi> i forgot all steps
[06:02] <javatard> adrejkw : nope, i get that bongo sound, but it doesnt open like my desktop does
[06:02] <wykis-_> seems like I am enlightened. Might be considering to update my mum's pc to ubuntu from windows :) so easy to configure it was
[06:02] <brian___> screen
[06:02] <javatard> adrejkw : I ran the command you gave me above
[06:03] <andrejkw> javatard: go into terminal again and type "sudo synaptic"
[06:03] <javatard> adrejkw : Nothing occured
[06:03] <andrejkw> javatard: any error?
[06:04] <javatard> adrejkw : No sir
[06:04] <javatard> adrejkw : No GUI either
[06:04] <andrejkw> javatard: ok type "sudo killall synaptic"
[06:04] <andrejkw> javatard: then type the command above
[06:04] <Pip> !ping
[06:04] <ubotu> pong
[06:04] <javatard> adrejkw : Nothing occured
[06:05] <javatard> adrejkw : No erros
[06:05] <ubuntu> HEY
[06:05] <dashriKe> I have a DFI Lanparty mainboard, and I have had no luck getting either of the ethernet ports to work at all in Ubuntu, any ideas?
[06:05] <andrejkw> javatard: well that is seriously weird
[06:05] <osotogari> how can i find out where my cd burner is mounted
[06:05] <andrejkw> javatard: try rebooting
[06:05] <ubuntu> Im NOT SEPEAK ENGLISH
[06:05] <andrejkw> javatard: and see if it goes away
[06:05] <javatard> adrejkw : ok. It is strange that it works in root and not in user correct?
[06:06] <andrejkw> javatard: what do you mean it works in root?
[06:06] <adam_> hey anyone here that might be able to help a noobie with asome mouse probs?
[06:06] <javatard> adrejkw : I am sorry,I mean to say in terminal when I type sudo
[06:07] <Polibio> I have 3CRWE154G72 wifi card, it works in kernel 2.6.15-19 but it does NOT work in the new kernels 2.6.15-21 to 23   What can I do to connect wirelessly again?
[06:07] <wykis-_> I am running chrooted Gentoo. I start a GUI app, like bluefish or xmms, and I get that display cannot be opened: "** CRITICAL **: Unable to open display"; I had set the DISPLAY variable with export to 10.0.0.3:0.0 but it still gives this error.
[06:07] <jksd> a little off-topic, but does anyone know if there's much work out there for someone to work from home?
[06:07] <jksd> for a linux sysadmin
[06:07] <javatard> adrejkw : What phrase should I google or search in the forums to research this problem? I think I search the wrong things
[06:07] <jksd> I've searched but nothing really
[06:08] <|neo> any one can telme were i can get the repositories to update the kde
[06:08] <osotogari> ok gnomebaker will burn when i type sudo gnomebaker in the terminal, but when i run it as user it wont burn. anyone have any ideas on this?
[06:08] <Sythen> Hey
[06:08] <jksd> no-one?
[06:09] <adam_> so anyone know anything about getting a ligitech g5 laser mouse working properly in ubuntu?
[06:09] <ompaul> |neo, this is not gentoo, things follow a release cycle, build parts make sure they work together, do a bit of debugging, check it a few times, release
[06:09] <mundisko> hi alll
[06:09] <mundisko> ;)
[06:09] <adam_> hi
[06:09] <mundisko> got a question ;)
[06:09] <adam_> me too
[06:09] <adam_> nobody has an answer :p
[06:09] <mundisko> has anybody installeg cvc cedega ??
[06:10] <ompaul> |neo, then start again, the older materials get patched when a security issues occurs, not updated, that way you maintain some level of stability
[06:10] <mundisko> cvs cedega ??
[06:10] <||arifaX> mundisko cvc cedega. just played unreal 2003 with cedega 5.1.3 on ubuntu breezy
[06:10] <mundisko> nice
[06:11] <||arifaX> cvc cedega?
[06:11] <|neo> i thot that kde 3.5 was already releaced
[06:11] <mundisko> i have 5.1.3 installed but i wanna try out before i buy
[06:11] <mundisko> ||arifaX : i have 5.1.3 installed but i wanna try out before i bu
[06:12] <ericz> |neo:
[06:12] <ericz> On March 28th 2006, the KDE Project released KDE 3.5.2.
[06:12] <Sythen> I have a problem (fresh install) of Ubuntu breezy in that it freezes on the login screen. By freezing, I mean that the keyboard stops working, the mouse doesn't move, and nothing happens. I have to do a hard rebbot
[06:12] <Sythen> reboot*
[06:12] <|neo> ericz : yes ?!
[06:12] <ericz> yeah, kde 3.5 is out
[06:12] <|neo> how to i put it in my kubuntu :P
[06:12] <ericz> not sure on that one
[06:13] <mo^> how can i reset my default keyboard layout? i played a bit with XGL and so i changed my layout (xmodmap)...
[06:13] <HellDragon> touch yourself and die
[06:14] <corey> anyone know if its possible to minimize evolution to panel?
[06:15] <|neo> ompaul: i was you that had tryed to help me with apache was it ?!
[06:15] <nickrud> |neo, there are packages at http://kubuntu.org/packages
[06:15] <mo^> corey, http://alltray.sourceforge.net/ ;)
[06:15] <|neo> thanks
[06:16] <ompaul> |neo, yes, as I said reinstall from the ground up and work with it then
[06:16] <corey> o0o neat thanks mo^
[06:16] <|neo> ompaul: and it worked ..... this time thanks realy :)
[06:16] <jayrod06> yo ho
[06:17] <Sythen> bye, since I cant get any help >.>
[06:17] <jayrod06> what it is dog, just kidding
[06:17] <|neo> ompaul: thanks for your comprention
[06:17] <ferronica> HELP NEEDED HERE
[06:18] <ompaul> ferronica, turn off the caps lock, you know this
[06:18] <ferronica> ompaul:forgot
[06:19] <ferronica> ompaul: :)
[06:19] <brian__> screen -r
[06:19] <isheep_> wrong window? :)
[06:20] <patrick_> hi ho :-)
[06:20] <ferronica> ompaul: do u know what is this it shows me at the time of booting Fail -->synchronizing to ntp.ubuntulinix.org
[06:20] <Antigone1015> 764member...ohmygod~
[06:20] <proxosi> hey guys is skype available for ubuntu?
[06:20] <LinuxJones> proxosi, yeah
[06:21] <proxosi> would you tell me which one to download..
[06:21] <isheep_> ferronica: its no big deal you pc cant connect to ntp.ubuntulinux.org to sync your clock i have this too when my cable is overloaded ;x
[06:21] <brian__> quit
[06:21] <ferronica> isheep: so thats not a big problem
[06:22] <LinuxJones> proxosi, you have to rename one of the hangup.wav file or you can only make 1 call and the software won't release control of the soundcard after you hangup.
[06:22] <isheep_> ferronica: no probabbly is will work the next time you boot and you can alsways do it manualy if you clock is out of sync
[06:22] <ompaul> proxosi, there is a package availabe, go to #easyubuntu they have software that installs it
[06:22] <patrick_> i'm new to ubuntu and i miss a package - or i don't know how to install *g*. i found a description for snes9x-common (breezy) on packages.ubuntu.org. but how to install the package
[06:22] <patrick_> ?
[06:23] <LinuxJones> proxosi, if your using gnome >> http://skype.com/go/getskype-linux-static
[06:23] <ferronica> isheep: can we change the GRUB screen to look nice
[06:23] <isheep_> patrick_: typ 'sudo apt-get install snes9x-common' in your terminal
[06:23] <ompaul> patrick_, first you need to install repos then you can do what isheep_ said
[06:24] <ompaul> patrick_, I will get the bot to send you that information
[06:24] <isheep_> ferronica: im almost certain you can but i never used grub before so i cant tell you how sorry
[06:24] <isheep_> !repos
[06:24] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:24] <ferronica> isheep:
[06:24] <ferronica> isheep: Ok
[06:24] <isheep_> ah oke sorry ompaul, patrick_
[06:24] <corey> mo^: how does alltray work?
[06:24] <ferronica> ompaul: do u know
[06:24] <corey> mo^:  i cant find a way to minimize it
[06:25] <ferronica> ubotu: GRUB screen modify
[06:25] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ferronica
[06:25] <corey> !alltray
[06:25] <ubotu> corey: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:25] <ferronica> ubotu: GRUB screen
[06:25] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ferronica
[06:25] <ferronica> ubotu: GRUB
[06:25] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:25] <ompaul> ferronica, the answer for that is look at google and find there a "grub faq"
[06:25] <patrick_> isheep_, ompaul : ok, thank you. i will read it now :)
[06:25] <ompaul> ferronica, you have been told before to /msg ubotu keyword
[06:27] <ferronica> ubotu is dumb lol
[06:27] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ferronica
[06:28] <osotogari> Hey all, im having trouble burning some CDs with my external USB burner and GnomeBaker, it gives the error that "Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second." Can anyone help?
[06:28] <isheep_> ferronica: PEBCAK
[06:28] <ferronica> ompaul: see what response he is giving LOL
[06:28] <ferronica> ubotu: you are robot???
[06:28] <ubotu> ferronica: what are you talking about?
[06:28] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ferronica about botabuse
[06:28] <ferronica> ubotu: how are you
[06:29] <ubotu> ferronica: pretty good. how about you?
[06:29] <ferronica> ubotu: i am fine
[06:29] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ferronica
[06:29] <isheep_> osotogari: i never used gnomebaker before but from that msg i should say you try it as su :)
[06:29] <osotogari> Isheep: i did and it worked but i want to be able to use it as a normal user
[06:29] <||arifaX> is there a network tray icon for breezy?
[06:30] <osotogari> The same thing happens with K3b, i must be sudo to get it to burn anything
[06:30] <nickrud> osotogari, check the permissions on /dev/sg0
[06:30] <LinuxJones> ferronica, the bot is not a toy it's a tool, so please try not to be one yourself :)
[06:30] <isheep_> LinuxJones: haha
[06:30] <ferronica> ompaul: can u tell me what more i can do in ubuntu 5.10
[06:30] <LinuxJones> :D
[06:30] <orn> How do I make locales generate ISO8859-1 locales, instead of just UTF-8, and furthermore, how do I make the ISO8859-1 the system default?
[06:31] <osotogari> @ nickrud: how can i change them if i need to? (read n00bie here )
[06:31] <ferronica> ompaul: i am using 2.0 channel speakers can i modify it??
[06:32] <isheep_> ferronica: please try to google for the awnsers im sure someone else had the same problems as you (well whit ubuntu that is)
[06:32] <nickrud> osotogari, sudo chmod a+rw /dev/sg0 I would think
[06:33] <osotogari> @ nickrud: Thanks dude :)
[06:33] <ferronica> isheep_: r u talking about spekers???
[06:33] <nickrud> osotogari, that permission setting probably won't survive an unplug/plug of the device, though
[06:33] <ferronica> isheep_: or something else???
[06:34] <ferronica> isheep_: i really wanna Kill Bill with my ubuntu linux, because i love linux only ubuntu
[06:34] <isheep_> ferronica: well i quess about everything you asked here in the past 5-10 mins i have been here.. im just saying google is your best friend.
[06:35] <isheep_> ferronica: where you from? just wondering
[06:35] <ferronica> isheep_: ubuntu 101% free LOL
[06:35] <osotogari> @ nickrud: Thats what must have happend, cause it was working perfectly before i plugged out the device
[06:35] <ferronica> isheep_: why???
[06:35] <niki> can someone help me out?  in gdesklets, i configured it to not show the tray icon...but now i can't configure gdesklets (because i have no tray icon).  how do i reenable the tray icon?
[06:35] <osotogari> is there a away to make it permanent?
[06:35] <patrick_> isheep_, ompaul : greate, it works fine now :) thanks.
[06:35] <ferronica> isheep_: i said something wrong or u didnt liked my words
[06:36] <isheep_> ferronica: no not really.. i was just wondering.. diddnt really mean anything whit that question.
[06:36] <ferronica> isheep_: i am from Nepal
[06:36] <nickrud> osotogari, yes, it's probably under /etc/udev/rules somewhere. But that's over my head :)
[06:36] <ferronica> isheep_: and you please???
[06:36] <isheep_> ferronica: ok, im from the netherlands
[06:36] <WillyTell> hello everyone!
[06:36] <isheep_> hi WillyTell
[06:36] <ferronica> isheep_: do u know where is nepal???
[06:37] <osotogari> @ nickrud: thanks for the help, ill go do some reading :)
[06:37] <ferronica> isheep_: its not a big country, border of India
[06:37] <dfgas> how do i check if dma is on and if it isn't how do i turn it on?
[06:37] <isheep_> ferronica: between india an china correct?
[06:37] <ferronica> isheep_: yes
[06:37] <WillyTell> can someone help me with tv out?
[06:37] <ferronica> isheep_: do u ever visit india
[06:38] <ferronica> isheep_: its a nice place to visit
[06:38] <nickrud> dfgas, sudo hdparm -d /dev/hdX will tell you; -d1 turns it on
[06:38] <isheep_> ferronica: no i havent im sorry but we are getting a little offtopic here ;) its my fault i know but i dont think people whill like that here.
[06:38] <dfgas> nickrud, ty
[06:38] <ferronica> isheep_: Ok sorry
[06:38] <isheep_> ferronica: np :) its my fault
[06:38] <ferronica> isheep_: is there any special rule to remain in this channel
[06:39] <isheep_> isheep_: check the topic :)
[06:39] <ferronica> isheep_: tell me who bans people in this channel, who got this power to ban people???
[06:39] <dfgas> arghhh, i don't understand why the harddrive does so much when loading up stuff and lags the system down bad
[06:40] <ferronica> isheep_: be right bacl let me eat my dinner
[06:40] <proxosi> hi guys.. can you guys link me to mounting a hd
[06:40] <isheep_> ferronica: read the irc basics and you'll can tell your self
[06:40] <isheep_> s/you'll/you/
[06:41] <jacount> can someone here help me set up a bridge with ubuntu 5.10?
[06:41] <WillyTell> I have a gforce4 mx 4000 agp 8x, obviusly with tv out... but I can not see on tv the desktop of my pc.... someone know about configure xorg.conf???
[06:41] <nickrud> jacount, I think there's a cad program in the repos somewhere ;)
[06:43] <jacount> my pc running ubuntu has a modem connection to the internet and i need to bridge that to my ethernet network so my octane can get online
[06:43] <WillyTell> I'v read about configure xorg.conf but.... it doesn't work very well.
[06:44] <nickrud> jacount, I hear that a lot of people use ipmasq & dnsmasq for that
[06:44] <visik7> jacount: bridge a modem to an ethernet ?
[06:45] <jacount> vinboy: yes
[06:45] <visik7> jacount: wtf are you trying to do ?
[06:45] <jacount> vinboy: I dont have broadband and i need to get my octane online and i dont have modem support for it
[06:45] <visik7> don't you just need a SNAT rule ?
[06:45] <visik7> jacount: I'm visik7 not vinboy
[06:45] <dashriKe> recommendations for a new-ish motherboard?
[06:45] <defcon8> yes
[06:45] <defcon8> dfi lanparty
[06:45] <dashriKe> I hate you
[06:46] <defcon8> www.dfi.com.tw
[06:46] <LinuxJones> WillyTell, have a peek here >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=6e9ec1c1956a001d374b5038fa1c9f77&t=98456
[06:46] <dashriKe> current: DFI Lanparty NF2 Ultra B
[06:46] <jacount> visik7:im sorrry about that
[06:46] <dashriKe> I have had nothing but problems with it
[06:46] <defcon8> shyte
[06:46] <defcon8> i had problems with my nf4
[06:46] <alexcamilo{u}> i was trying to insall using aptitude and got this message "No candidate version found for gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:46] <alexcamilo{u}> " i'm on ubuntu 5.10 on a ppc
[06:46] <defcon8> it wouldnt detect my geforce 6800
[06:46] <jacount> do i need to down load ipmasq or dnsmasq?
[06:46] <defcon8> wouldnt even start
[06:47] <nickrud> alexcamilo{u}, you need to enable the universe repo, see the following link:
[06:47] <nickrud> !universe
[06:47] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:47] <LinuxJones> jacount, you need to setup internet connection sharing ?
[06:47] <jacount> LinuxJones: how do i do that?
[06:48] <WillyTell> LinuxJones, I have read that link.... and I followed instruction in that link.... but it doesn't work...?
[06:48] <LinuxJones> jacount, easiest way is to install firestarter (it's a GUI for Iptables)
[06:49] <proxosi> anyone mind telling me how to mount a hd? somehow i cant search it in the ubuntu help thing
[06:49] <veriz> do anyone know if i can install concurrent versioning system with apt-get ?
[06:49] <WillyTell> LinuxJones, before came here, I read that link.
[06:49] <LinuxJones> WillyTell, I don't have an nvidia card wish I could help
[06:49] <jacount> LinuxJones:  where do i find that, search for it on google or something?
[06:49] <LinuxJones> jacount, no enable the universe repository
[06:50] <WillyTell> LinuxJones, ok.
[06:50] <nickrud> jacount, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetConnectionSharing has some pointers
[06:50] <LinuxJones> jacount, then you can install it with apt or synaptic
[06:51] <niki> how can i see what version of fluxbox i have?
[06:51] <isheep> fluxbox -v
[06:51] <WillyTell> LinuxJones, thanks anyway :)
[06:52] <niki> ty isheep
[06:52] <LinuxJones> WillyTell, GL
[06:52] <jacount> LinuxJones: and then just search for firestarter in the pacakage manager?
[06:53] <suppaman> I'm not able to log in into wiki.ubuntu.org
[06:53] <suppaman> my launchpad account is fine
[06:53] <LinuxJones> jacount, yeah
[06:53] <LinuxJones> jacount, you have to update the repos first
[06:54] <jacount> LinuxJones: its updating, it takes a while to do that
[06:54] <|H-raf|> i want to format the linux partition but whats the cmd  to start the pc with win (without grub) ?
[06:55] <ronan> Hello
[06:55] <obscurite> join #kubuntu
[06:56] <ronan> Can someone tell me if he got a Dell E1505 worj=king perfectly on ubuntu dapper ?
[06:56] <ronan> Or a Dell B130 ?
[06:56] <LinuxJones> ronan, what's not working ?
[06:57] <ronan> i don't know. I am planning to buy a laptop and i am interested in the dell models B130 and E1505
[06:57] <ronan> i would like to know if they work well with ubuntu dapper
[06:58] <budguy> how to install java 1.5 on ubuntu?
[06:58] <luopio> hi. I'm having trouble customizing the liveCD of dapper.. running the cd, every time I start an admin program I get a dialog saying "the entered password is invalid" :(. Any ideas?
[06:58] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-fr
[06:59] <LinuxJones> ronan, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell?highlight=%28laptop%29
[06:59] <varsendagger> hey what is the deal with typing having ( in filenames    how do i type them in cli?
[07:00] <ronan> the model E1505 and B130 are not in the list
[07:01] <alexcamilo{u}> what do you meen by taking the us out of apt sources. remove the .us from the url or replace it with something else?
[07:01] <alexcamilo{u}> i removed the "us." and apt-get couldnt resolve the name
[07:01] <mo^> can someone upload his /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.de please?
[07:02] <LinuxJones> ronan, that doesn't mean they won't work try searching google I'm sure you will get lots of hits
[07:02] <drewbie42> alexcamilo{u}: did you try running 'sudo apt-get update' first?
[07:02] <ronan> do you have a laptop ?
[07:03] <NickGarvey> /usr/src/linux is just where the kernel source files are right?  so lets say I delete them all, what will happpen?
[07:03] <alexcamilo{u}> yes i did
[07:03] <alexcamilo{u}> thats when it told me it couldnt resolve the name
[07:03] <|H-raf|> i want to format the linux partition whats the cmd to boot the pc with win (without grub) ?
[07:03] <ompaul> alexcamilo{u},  deb http://archive << it sould look like that just check that they are
[07:03] <LinuxJones> ronan, yeah I have an Acer 5002 wlmi
[07:03] <NickGarvey> |H-raf|: use a boot disk I'd say.. like smart boot manager
[07:04] <phreekbird> is there a special way to run glxgears? when i type glxgears i get slooooow gears, but if i run test through cedega they fly ... whats up with that?
[07:04] <ronan> LinuxJones: Does it work perfectly ?
[07:04] <ompaul> alexcamilo{u},  paste the contents of that file into paste.ubuntu-nl.org if it >>sudo apt-get update<< does not work
[07:04] <LinuxJones> ronan, yes with some tweeking
[07:04] <ronan> thank you for your answers
[07:05] <LinuxJones> ronan, it's a cheap laptop but does everything I need for it's low price
[07:07] <itrebal> is there a way to list all the packages installed?
[07:07] <Stargazers> Hi. Is there any way how I can install Ubuntu without local hard drive. I mean I have other computer as a NFS server where I'd like to install that Ubuntu.
[07:07] <Stargazers> Any ideas how?
[07:08] <Stargazers> I have tried to google 2 days almost :/
[07:08] <prashantk76> i have one more problem my laptop display turn off after 3 min (if i work with mouse) i am using Xubuntu
[07:08] <ompaul> itrebal, dpkg -l | less  < if you want to see them but it will be long time getting through them, to count them >> dpkg -l | wc -l
[07:08] <spacey> Stargazers: boot from network
[07:08] <itrebal> ompaul: thanks
[07:08] <spacey> and mount the root filesystem over NFS
[07:09] <Stargazers> spacey: Impossible, I have no bootable lan card
[07:09] <drewbie42> itrebal: there is also a list in synaptic
[07:09] <Stargazers> I have to use boot disk (no prob, only prob is how)
[07:09] <spacey> boot from CD and mount the root filesystem over NFS
[07:09] <Stargazers> Boot from live CD or from Install CD? I tried to use Install CD but can't make it work
[07:09] <Stargazers> Well, I have old ubuntu Intall cd, but...
[07:10] <Stargazers> 5.04 install CD-rom
[07:10] <spacey> the install cd is not really suitable for that
[07:10] <Stargazers> But does it matter?
[07:10] <spacey> uhm
[07:10] <Stargazers> Oh.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> be easier to just have ubuntu inrtalled on the remote pc. and have the local pc use a live cd. but  connect its X display to the remote box. or ssh to the remote and run needed apps.
[07:10] <Stargazers> Well, hmmh. How I can make plain install to NFS drive
[07:10] <spacey> why not make it a thinclient while your at it:P
[07:10] <Stargazers> Dr_Willis: But I just need to install whole system to NFS :/
[07:11] <Stargazers> spacey: What you mean?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> Stargazers,  in many ways that makes little sence.
[07:11] <suppaman> can anyone pls tell me if he/she can log in into wiki.ubuntu.org ?
[07:11] <spacey> you never install the system on NFS in practice
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> it depends on what you are really needing to do work/task wise.
[07:12] <spacey> Stargazers: ifyou make it a thinclient, you can boot it from network with a cd, and then everything runs at the server
[07:12] <spacey> also the programs
[07:12] <spacey> instead of only the data
[07:12] <kane777> !apt
[07:12] <ubotu> [apt]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[07:12] <Stargazers> I need to take of this Hard Drive on that 300 MHz computer but I'd like to use it as a normal PC (write files on hard disks etc, but Hard Disk should be on the other computer, on NFS)
[07:12] <spacey> btw there are some fatclient projects as well
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> or boot a simple live cd. and have that xdmcp thing enabled - so you can just start X on the remote box and see it displayed locally.
[07:13] <spacey> Stargazers: which box is most fast? the one without disk or with?
[07:13] <spacey> if the one without disk is 300mhz i would make it a thinclient
[07:13] <Stargazers> Dr_Willis: Yep, but I need to test it thinking of future. I meant that some day I mean to buy external hard drive and use my PC:s without internal drives.
[07:13] <Stargazers> Fastest is that where is disk drivees
[07:13] <Stargazers> Without is 300 MHz
[07:14] <spacey> Stargazers: you should look into LTSP
[07:14] <Stargazers> I mean that I'd lake to make it work witout
[07:14] <Stargazers> LTSP?
[07:14] <spacey> a 300mhz machine is great as thin client
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> consiering how cheap hard drives are.. :P its proberly best to have a small hd., and a small disrto install.. and a swap partition. and just use the remote X stuff.
[07:14] <spacey> at it uses the speed of the fast one
[07:14] <spacey> Dr_Willis: nah, LTSP :)
[07:14] <spacey> 300mhz is not nice to run local apps on
[07:15] <spacey> Stargazers: look in the ubuntu wiki for LTSP
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> i ran linux on my pent100 laptop. :P  ya Young Wipper Snapper!
[07:15] <Stargazers> Dr_Willis: No it is not the problem (small hard drive). I meant that I want to take that hard drive out of my PC (300 MHz) 'cause it is so noisy. It is infernal to hear, I'd like more silent.
[07:15] <spacey> !ltsp
[07:15] <ubotu> somebody said ltsp was the Linux Terminal Server Project - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto (for Breezy), https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPHowTo (pre Breezy).  See also http://www.ltsp.org/
[07:15] <Stargazers> That is why I need to install on other computer my Linux
[07:15] <Stargazers> But use it on 300 MHz as it has "own" hard drive
[07:15] <bukowski> hi, how can i install my graphic card's driver? how can i find a tuto for this?
[07:16] <mohanram> bukowski: that is a good question and I would like to know myself
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> bukowski, type !nvidia or !ati
[07:16] <Stargazers> bukowski: What card? On wiki.ubuntu.com you can find help for that (At least I found NVidia and ATI tutorials)
[07:16] <spacey> Stargazers: anyway, just see what you want. You can use the 300mhz diskless with LTSP, and take advantage of the speed of your fast PC. Its nice.
[07:16] <mohanram> !ati
[07:16] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:16] <suppaman> anyone on wiki ?
[07:16] <Stargazers> spacey: Yep, but I mean that IN THE FUTURE I have no that other PC, only external Hard Drive
[07:17] <Stargazers> On LAN.
[07:17] <bukowski> Stargazers: sapphire x550
[07:17] <Stargazers> Uh... I have never installed that graphics card. It is ATI? :D
[07:17] <Stargazers> I have no idea, sorry
[07:17] <mohanram> !broadcom
[07:17] <ubotu> it has been said that broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[07:17] <bukowski> yes ati
[07:17] <bukowski> I could not load gnome because of this
[07:17] <Stargazers> Then there is links if you look up
[07:18] <Anon0037> I have a new Ubuntu install and I noticed this a few times when booting and configuring and such, but I ran a gdm restart about 10 minutes ago and all I see scrolling is "pegasus 5-6.6:1.0: ctrl_callback, status -71" ...anyone know what's up there? :/
[07:18] <Stargazers> spacey: Did you now understood what I meant?
[07:19] <suppaman> !wiki
[07:19] <Stargazers> spacey: And the other problem is that I have no PXE support
[07:19] <Blasphemy> hi
[07:19] <kane777> how to mount iso??
[07:20] <idefix> and gimp users here?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[07:20] <phreekbird> is there a special way to run glxgears? when i type glxgears i get slooooow gears, but if i run test through cedega they fly ... whats up with that?
[07:20] <ubotu> iso is, like, totally, download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[07:20] <phreekbird> trying to test out dri
[07:20] <Blasphemy> !kernel
[07:20] <Cloud_tm> WHAT MAKES YOU ALL PREFER UBUNTU OVER KUBUNTU?
[07:20] <FliesLikeABrick> idefix #gimp
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. to mount it ya use the loop option to mount.. but i forget the details
[07:20] <tdn> How do I remove KDE from my system? I did apt-get install kde, because I would like to try it. When I do apt-get remove kde, I realize that "kde" is only a meta package. How do I remove KDE? Please help.
[07:20] <idefix> how do I paint something with the gradient.. there is an option in gimp but when I click nothing happens
[07:20] <spacey> Stargazers: you can burn a bootable cd image with PXE
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Cloud_tm,  theres no reason to shout.. and no real reason to worry about the differances.. if ya like kde use kubuntu, or use ubuntu and install kubuntu-desktop.. its trival.
[07:21] <FliesLikeABrick> idefix #gimp
[07:21] <Blasphemy> !iso
[07:21] <ubotu> I guess iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[07:21] <suppaman> Cloud_tm: nothing, xubuntu is the choice
[07:21] <idefix> !gimp
[07:21] <ubotu> hmm... gimp is at http://www.gimp.org
[07:21] <Cloud_tm> I see
[07:21] <suppaman> !xubuntu
[07:21] <ubotu> [xubuntu]  Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[07:21] <idefix> how is the #-sign used?
[07:21] <Stargazers> spacey: Oh. Have to look if I find something...
[07:21] <ompaul> Cloud_tm, its just something one sees and so uses
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> idefix,  huh?
[07:21] <spacey> Stargazers: www.rom-o-matic.net
[07:21] <idefix> FliesLIkeABrick, I'm trying to paint a rectangle with a gradient, how do I do this?
[07:21] <Cloud_tm> I really cant decide which one to choose
[07:21] <FliesLikeABrick> idefix join #gimp for help with gimp
[07:22] <idefix> ic
[07:22] <Cloud_tm> I cant decide whether to use Dapper Ubuntu or Dapper Kubuntu, I am running Ubuntu as of now
[07:22] <spacey> Stargazers: you'll understand if you look at ltsp docs. but i can't solve the problem if you have no servers with disks at all
[07:22] <oktaycik> !kernel
[07:22] <Chousuke> Cloud_tm: It doesn't really matter
[07:22] <Chousuke> Cloud_tm: Both distros include each other.
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> i agree with Chousuke  Cloud_tm  - it dosent really matter.
[07:22] <MorbidHunger> anyway to get winex working in ubunutu?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> i would install ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop
[07:22] <Stargazers> spacey: I have a server with disks now
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> MorbidHunger,  you mean 'cedega' ?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> !winex
[07:22] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dr_Willis
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> !cedega
[07:23] <nsillik> I can't install apache2-prefork-dev, I get the following error on apt-get ""apache2-prefork-dev: Depends: apache2-common (= 2.0.54-5ubuntu2) but 2.0.54-5ubuntu4 is to be installed""
[07:23] <spacey> Stargazers: if you also want to run all your applications on it LTSP would be perfect.
[07:23] <nsillik> i'm trying to compile modjk (not modjk2) and i need axps2
[07:23] <Stargazers> But in future I meant... In future I will buy External Hard Drive with RJ45 support (you know that kind of stuff?). Then I rip out all hard drives out of my computer and use Linux in all machines over that external hard drive
[07:23] <nsillik> orrr apxs2
[07:23] <Stargazers> Because of noise
[07:24] <Cloud_tm> lol
[07:24] <Stargazers> spacey: But LTSP need computer as a server
[07:24] <Cloud_tm> the kubuntu channel is realllyy quiet
[07:24] <spacey> yup
[07:24] <spacey> so that won't work. you might want to look into "fat clients"
[07:24] <mormoloc> Newbie-Questions: What command to use in terminal to move a file from one directory to another?
[07:24] <Stargazers> spacey: Yep, but I want to install that kind of linux isntallation that needs no other computers, only loads linux on external hard drive
[07:24] <spacey> but i have no experience with that
[07:24] <Stargazers> Ok.
[07:25] <Stargazers> Thanks anyway
[07:25] <spacey> gl
[07:25] <Stargazers> mormoloc: mv
[07:25] <nsillik> mormoloc, 'mv'
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> Stargazers,  if that pc is that old - it wont be able to boot off a external usb hard drive.
[07:25] <tdn> Please help me remove KDE.
[07:25] <MENDIGO> My XMMS doesn't conect with the webradios that ends with /*.pls, can anyone help me please?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> Stargazers,  you will have to use a bootable cd/floppy or some  sort of network card.
[07:25] <Stargazers> Dr_Willis: Yep, I meant that I need to make a bootable CD that only loads kernel on it and mount NFS drive as a root filessystem
[07:25] <Stargazers> But I don't know how
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> tdn,  basicially you fire up synaptic - and start searching/removing as far as i know.
[07:26] <suppaman> Stargazers: I think you'll need to use a rd
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Stargazers,  sounds like a minimal slax or dsl custome cd to me.
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:26] <Stargazers> rd?
[07:26] <suppaman> ramdisk
[07:26] <Stargazers> Oh.
[07:26] <Stargazers> Why not NFS?
[07:26] <tdn> Dr_Willis: so I have to locate all the KDE-packages manually and remove them one by one? This is not a good solution. I do not know all the KDE-packages.
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> boots ramdisk.. then it sets up nfs
[07:27] <Stargazers> 'cause I want to mount NFS drive as root 'cause I want to save all my settings etc
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> tdn,   yep..   i wouldent worry about it.. i  rarely uninstall anything.
[07:27] <suppaman> I think eth and nfs support won't fit a bootable kernel image
[07:27] <tdn> Dr_Willis: you are not really helping here.
[07:27] <Creteil> just finished installing ubuntu dapper, after this upgraded with all available updates, but now the start of X session take minutes to start after i have enterd my l/p ... any idea ?
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> tdn,  theres no good fix to what you did. since kde is a Huge meta-package
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> tdn,  ive seen others ask similer things.. and never seen anyone come up with a good way to do it.
[07:28] <phreekbird> whats the kernel versioon of breezy? 2.4 or 2.6?
[07:28] <bukowski> this is my first ubuntu/linux installition, i have not noticed a root password selection on the installition screen, i have only created a local user, now i do not know my root password. how can i get it?
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> tdn,  synaptic has a search feature. is about as good as you are going to get I think.
[07:28] <nickrud> tdn, you can apt-get remove libqt3-mt , that will get rid of about 99% of kde
[07:28] <Stargazers> bukowski: There is no root password by default on Ubuntu
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> bukowski,  you just asked faq #1 :P
[07:29] <phreekbird> bukowski root is disabled by default
[07:29] <darius_> bukowski: open a shell and sudo
[07:29] <tdn> nickrud: ok. Thanks.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> !root
[07:29] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:29] <bukowski> i, see thank you :)
[07:30] <suppaman> does anyone know if it needs some time to have a launchpad account log into the ubuntu wiki?
[07:30] <MENDIGO> My XMMS doesn't conect with the webradios that ends with /*.pls, can anyone help me please??????????????????????????????????????????
[07:30] <suppaman> I've registered about an hour ago, wiki.ubuntu.org keeps saying "wrong password" but I can log launchpad with the same login/pass
[07:31] <suppaman> MENDIGO: mine does the same, I just opened the pls and copied tha bare stream url. Btw why to use so many question mark ?
[07:32] <spectie> soop__, can someone tell me again the packages i need to install to get mp3 support in gstreamer ?
[07:32] <MENDIGO> suppaman, sorry, its because i had already sent the message and received no answer =/
[07:32] <MENDIGO> suppaman, but how you open the pls and copy the bare stream url?
[07:32] <suppaman> I personally used vi
[07:33] <suppaman> and mouse too
[07:33] <Doat> cdrecord won't burn my CD-RWs. Burning CD-Rs works though. cdrecord says: cdrecord: Trying to use high speed medium on low speed writer. My CD-RWs are TDK 700MB 4x-12x and my writer is LITE-ON LTR-52327-S which has 32x ReWrite speed. Burning the same CD-RWs with the same writer in Windows worked. Any ideas?
[07:33] <foosball> lamers
[07:33] <MENDIGO> suppaman, .. thanks
[07:34] <suppaman> Doat: set the speed manually ?
[07:34] <Doat> suppaman, i've tried all 4x-12x
[07:34] <DewDude> i'm running a realtek8180 based Wifi card on my laptop with Dapper. Things were running fine when i ran wireless full time, but i haven't lately and today, i try to use it, and my laptop is locking up hardcore.
[07:35] <stamen81> hi
[07:35] <stamen81> how to check is any #d rendering enabled for NVIDIA
[07:35] <stamen81> how to test it
[07:35] <Doat> are there any other cd-rw burn programs I could try?
[07:35] <Polibio> I have 3CRWE154G72 wifi card, it works in kernel 2.6.15-19 but it does NOT work in the new kernels 2.6.15-21 to 23   What can I do to connect wirelessly again?
[07:36] <DewDude> Polibio, what chipset is it based off of?
[07:36] <Polibio> prism
[07:36] <DewDude> odd
[07:36] <DewDude> usually prism is supported
[07:36] <DewDude> maybe they didn't load a module
[07:37] <njan> Polibio, are you sure it's prism?
[07:37] <DewDude> i've got issues with my ndiswrapper
[07:37] <DewDude> so..i can't really help you.
[07:37] <Polibio> I didn't need ndiswrappper, it worked perfectly without it
[07:37] <Polibio> but not in the lask kernels
[07:37] <DewDude> yeah, you don't
[07:37] <DewDude> but i do.
[07:37] <DewDude> dude
[07:38] <DewDude> you either don't have a module loaded, or your card isn't prism
[07:38] <DewDude> i'm going to guess you have a module not loaded, or a bad config
[07:39] <Polibio> and what should I do?
[07:39] <suppaman> Doat: can you produce a verbose output ?
[07:39] <DewDude> find out what driver you need
[07:39] <DewDude> and load it
[07:40] <Doat> suppaman, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14281 this was a few days ago when i tried to blank the same CD-RW
[07:40] <Polibio> DewDude, how do you load a driver in Ubuntu?
[07:40] <lufis> Is there any way to prevent a piece of hardware from being loaded?
[07:40] <blank_> hey guys, in fluxbox, there's nothing in my right click menu
[07:41] <MorbidHunger> no winex for ubuntu?
[07:41] <mwiggins> i just did an install on a secondary harddrive, ready to reboot and install morw packages, but i couldnt get grub to boot, so i booted up primary system (another ubunutu) and chroot to the root filesystem
[07:41] <blank_> !fluxbox
[07:41] <ubotu> somebody said fluxbox was a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[07:41] <mwiggins> what script or whatever normally runs on that first reboot
[07:42] <suppaman> Doat: and did the blanking went all trough ?
[07:42] <deoryp> i was wondering if anyone could help me out with a harddrive problem, i have read most of the forums and they seemed to not fix my problem, it does not mount, but it worked last night
[07:43] <suppaman> deoryp: what kind of hd ?
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> MorbidHunger,  there is no longer a winex - it became 'cedega'
[07:43] <deoryp> suppaman: Western dig, 180G
[07:43] <suppaman> deoryp: s-ata or p-ata ?
[07:43] <Doat> suppaman, no. i was able to blank it with the -f option on though. cdrecord hung during the operation but it still seemed blank the CD-RW.
[07:43] <brandonbl79> !grub
[07:43] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:43] <mwiggins> how can i manually start the second half of the install after reboot
[07:43] <deoryp> suppaman: normal ide drive, not sata
[07:44] <suppaman> Doat: if it hanged then probably the blanking was not complete
[07:44] <suppaman> Doat: can you try a 2.4 kernel ?
[07:44] <MorbidHunger> that sucks
[07:44] <MorbidHunger> cedega cost money right?
[07:44] <suppaman> deoryp: there is no "normal ide" , anyway I think it's parallel
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> MorbidHunger,  cedega or use the free wine.. or look into cedega cvs
[07:44] <Doat> suppaman, i guess i can boot to it. haven't tried it since upgrading to dapper though
[07:44] <suppaman> deoryp: is it mounted on onboard ide controller ?
[07:44] <Arrick> anyone, I installed the default install, how do I get it so the gui doesnt automatically start?
[07:44] <deoryp> suppaman: yeah, sorry, pata
[07:45] <Arrick> Dr_Willis, ^^
[07:45] <MorbidHunger> :(
[07:45] <suppaman> Doat: and btw what are permissions on /dev/hdc ?
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> MorbidHunger,  or look into the emulators like qemu. vmware, ect.
[07:45] <mwiggins> Arrick: remove *[gk] dm from /etc/rc2.d
[07:45] <MorbidHunger> meh
[07:45] <Doat> suppaman, brw-rw----
[07:45] <MorbidHunger> i just wanna get unreal tournament running on ubuntu
[07:45] <deoryp> suppaman: it is connected strait to the mb, on the same cable as my main hd, ubuntu sees it in the hdc slot
[07:45] <phreekbird> hey , ati drivers arae proprietary, and radeion drivers are the dri versions?
[07:45] <suppaman> Doat: so has the user rights to open it ?
[07:46] <phreekbird> trying to get dri workin
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> MorbidHunger,  hmm.. theres a native linux port of that game i thought.
[07:46] <MorbidHunger> there is
[07:46] <MorbidHunger> but using winex would have easier than to go look for it
[07:46] <mikebot> how can i make mplaayer zoom?
[07:46] <suppaman> deoryp: that's strange, on the same cable would lead to hdb (assuming your main hd is on primary master)
[07:46] <Doat> suppaman, root has rw access and i did sudo cdrecord
[07:46] <MorbidHunger> ubuntu is a great distro though
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> MorbidHunger,  there is no winex any more. :P
[07:46] <killercacti> I just installed Ubuntu for the first time... during boot or when I tried to do a gdm restart I have to watch "pegasus 5-6.6:1.0: ctrl_callback, status -71" scroll forever. Anyone know what's up with this? :/
[07:46] <suppaman> Doat: I'm just reading what you paster
[07:46] <Arrick> mwiggins, will that still allow startx to run the gui?
[07:46] <suppaman> pasted
[07:46] <master_of_master> hi, I've got a problem that a 3c905c (Tornado) doesn't whant to go to wol mode
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> !wine
[07:47] <mwiggins> Arrick: yes, it just wont start the display managers automatically, you could still start them with /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:47] <mwiggins> or with startx
[07:47] <legoscia> is there a way to request a DHCP renewal through the GUI of ubuntu breezy?
[07:47] <suppaman> master_of_master: I've got such a nic
[07:47] <MorbidHunger> im going to marry ubuntu
[07:47] <Arrick> mwiggins, ok, is that a command that has to happen with sudo, or do I need to edit a text?
[07:47] <master_of_master> suppaman: and does wol work?
[07:48] <suppaman> master_of_master: really never tried..
[07:48] <mwiggins> Arrick: both commands i told you require superuser access
[07:48] <killercacti> damn, I never get the easy problems :P
[07:48] <suppaman> master_of_master: but I never turn off that computer..
[07:48] <deoryp> suppaman: it is on the last connector on the ide cable, but the thing is i had it working last night
[07:48] <Arrick> ok thanks
[07:48] <mwiggins> except for startx
[07:48] <mwiggins> which technically was the third
[07:48] <suppaman> deoryp: do you know how to pastebin ?
[07:48] <mikebot> how can i make mplaayer zoom?
[07:48] <master_of_master> suppaman: I would do so, but power is expensive
[07:49] <orn> Where does ubuntu keep the downloaded files from apt?
[07:49] <Arrick> mwiggins, its saying "sudo: remove: command not found
[07:49] <suppaman> mikebot: dragging the window ?
[07:49] <mwiggins> hehe
[07:49] <suppaman> master_of_master: I'm not paying all of my consumes so..
[07:49] <master_of_master> orn: /var/cache/apt
[07:49] <stamen81> hello
[07:49] <deoryp> suppaman: yes, i am a bit new to ubuntu, but i can do most things, haha and i can pastbin
[07:49] <mikebot> suppaman, doesn't work
[07:49] <mwiggins> Arrick:  you need to remove the file in /etc/rc2.d that starts the display manager
[07:49] <stamen81> I have a problem with NVIDIA card
[07:49] <suppaman> mikebot: you don't mean fullscreen, don't you ?
[07:49] <mwiggins> 'rm' removes files
[07:50] <suppaman> deoryp: perform a "dmesg | grep hd" and paste output
[07:50] <stamen81> could anybody help me
[07:50] <mikebot> suppaman, sure, fullscreen
[07:50] <suppaman> mikebot: press 'f' then
[07:50] <suppaman> with the focus on movie window
[07:51] <suppaman> mikebot:  f toggles fullscreen
[07:51] <mikebot> suppaman, that makes the video screen take up my whole screen, but the video is the same size with a huge black border
[07:51] <orn> How do I change my default locale?
[07:51] <Arrick> mwiggins, would that be S13gdm?
[07:51] <mwiggins> Arrick: yes
[07:51] <Arrick> ok
[07:52] <Polibio> my computer is silent, should I restart to recover the sound?
[07:52] <suppaman> mikebot: you have to change video output, try "mplayer -vo" in a terminal
[07:52] <Richy-Holly> #ubuntu-de
[07:53] <deoryp> suppaman: http://pastebin.com/729935
[07:53] <master_of_master> orn: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[07:53] <Arrick> mwiggins, why wont it allow me to delete or remove that file?
[07:53] <suppaman> Polibio: it depends, try to restart sound system or to remove/reinstall sound module
[07:53] <mwiggins> Arrick: use sudo
[07:53] <orn> oh, sorry, that was probably meant for the dapper channel, as it now automatically generates everything and doesn't let me choose
[07:53] <Polibio> how do you restart sound system?
[07:53] <mikebot> suppaman, ok, did that, got like 4 lines of text
[07:53] <Arrick> it says del and remove are not found in command line
[07:53] <BanskuZ> rm -f
[07:53] <suppaman> Polibio: don't know, it depends on desktop environment I suppose
[07:53] <mwiggins> sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/s13gdm
[07:54] <Polibio> gnome here
[07:54] <Arrick> mwiggins, sorry, not used to linux any more
[07:54] <suppaman> mikebot: with -vo options ?
[07:54] <Polibio> I'm going to see
[07:54] <mikebot> suppaman, um..here...
[07:54] <mikebot> !paste
[07:54] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[07:54] <birdfish> Does anyone have any idea why when I install ubuntu, I just get a screen with scrambled colors?
[07:54] <Arrick> thank you mwiggins
[07:54] <mikebot> suppaman, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14400
[07:55] <duneatreides> hello
[07:55] <duneatreides> I am new to linux and I need some help
[07:55] <BanskuZ> Hello
[07:55] <x-Dieu> hi
[07:55] <birdfish> I'm sure that i've set my resolution correctly (1440 x 900)
[07:56] <duneatreides> I am the only user on this computer, and just to try it I created a user called joe
[07:56] <birdfish> But i've been trying all afternoon with no luck
[07:56] <Manderson> I am looking to change my gtk theme color. Is there a gui that anyone knows of that will automate the editing of the gtkrc file for themes?
[07:56] <duneatreides> now I want to delete joe, and joe's home directory
[07:56] <birdfish> I've even tried lower resolutions with no luck
[07:56] <suppaman> deoryp:  : you'r computer is a bit messy, you said the 180 gb  is on the end of a ribbon and the main hd is connected there too (in the middle)
[07:56] <duneatreides> but I can not delete the home directory of joe
[07:56] <suppaman> deoryp: is that right ?
[07:56] <Arrick> DBO, you here today?
[07:56] <DBO> yes
[07:56] <Arrick> ok just wondering
[07:57] <Arrick> what you working on?
[07:57] <deoryp> suppaman: yes
[07:58] <mikebot> suppaman, did you see it?
[07:58] <DBO> Arrick, sleep catchup =P
[07:58] <Arrick> haha
[07:59] <suppaman> deoryp: what if you give a "sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/harddisk" (be sure to have a valid mountpoint)
[07:59] <Arrick> then you shouldnt be on here DBO
[07:59] <killercacti> I guess I'll ask once more before I give up and try to reinstall or something :| ...I just installed Ubuntu for the first time... during boot or when I tried to do a gdm restart I have to watch "pegasus 5-6.6:1.0: ctrl_callback, status -71" scroll forever. Anyone know what's up with this? :/
[07:59] <DBO> Arrick, shhhh, you'll wake me up
[07:59] <Arrick> cause im in a bugging mood today
[08:00] <deoryp> suppaman : it says that eitehr hdc1 is mounted or the mount path is busy
[08:00] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to set up mediawiki?  I apt-get install mediawiki, but i'm not sure where any files go?
[08:00] <itrebal> i've been trying to install Ubuntu 5.10 on my system, i'm currently running it now, but i just installed a new 160 GB sata drive, and want to install to it... when i put in the 'install' CD, it comes up trying to boot to the livecd (if i let it boot, it will start up a livecd) any ideas what might cause this, how to fix it, etc?
[08:00] <deoryp> suppaman: oh, here is a hint: nautilus keeps asking me to enter roots password when i login and there is a command that looks like it wants to mount hdc1
[08:01] <Arrick> you got the cds mixd up itrebal
[08:01] <itrebal> Arrick: no i havn't, i've gone through 5 of them
[08:01] <mikebot> does anyone know how can i make mplayer zoom?
[08:01] <Arrick> or the put the wrong labels on them,very possible
[08:01] <itrebal> Arrick: i have a box of them i ordered a few months ago, not hand made
[08:01] <Arrick> itrebal, the first box i got the labeled backwards
[08:01] <drewbie42> mikebot: you need to put zoom=yes in your mplayer config file
[08:01] <itrebal> Arrick: i also tried the live cs
[08:01] <itrebal> cds*
[08:01] <suppaman> mikebot: I've read it, you need to have a list of the video output modes
[08:02] <Arrick> maybe the f*(@# up when the made them
[08:02] <itrebal> god damnit... alright, i'll try again
[08:02] <Floid> Speaking of CDs, is there a cure for the race that makes ISO burning a pain in 5.10?
[08:02] <Arrick> yeah, iso commander will unpack them and make it where you can burn normally
[08:03] <lufi> how do you recursively change file dates from the command line for an entire directory
[08:03] <suppaman> deoryp: according to your paste hdc isn't mounted so maybe an app is working on it
[08:03] <Floid> Heh, well, so will cdrecord.
[08:03] <drewbie42> mikebot: the config file should be in ~./.mplayer/config
[08:03] <Arrick> Floid,  ^^
[08:03] <suppaman> deoryp:  lsof /dev/hdc1
[08:03] <Arrick> ok you noticed
[08:03] <Arrick> ok
[08:03] <Arrick> thats all I can say
[08:03] <Floid> Everyone's given up on having right-click writing work in Breezy, then?
[08:03] <deoryp> suppaman: i did that and it comes back blank
[08:03] <brandonbl79> !grub
[08:03] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:04] <mikebot> suppaman, i don't understand
[08:04] <mikebot> drewbie42, what do i do witht he config file?
[08:04] <jayrod06> hey guys, i need help setting up quickitme aac encoding in ubuntu
[08:04] <drewbie42> mikebot: just add the line 'zoom=yes' to it
[08:04] <kane777> xvidcap: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:04] <jayrod06> is it possible?
[08:05] <deoryp> suppaman: http://pastebin.ca/57667
[08:05] <kane777> what does thi error mean??
[08:05] <kane777> xvidcap: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:05] <Floid> Anyhow, enough Linux for me today, time to go play with a proper UNIX (DragonFly). ;)
[08:05] <drewbie42> mikebot: (without the quote marks)
[08:05] <kane777> (well I know what it means but where can I get libpng.so.2
[08:05] <mikebot> drewbie42, ok, let me try that
[08:05] <Chousuke> Floid: Is it really an UNIX?
[08:06] <suppaman> mikebot: mplayer -vo help
[08:06] <killercacti> oh well :/
[08:06] <Floid> I'm kidding.  But FreeBSD somehow gets to call itself UNIX now.
[08:06] <jayrod06> anyone help?
[08:06] <imbusy> is this a known issue, when installing dapper drake, the installation process halts at 71%?
[08:06] <Chousuke> I thought it costs money to get certified as a UNIX. :)
[08:06] <imbusy> live cd amd64
[08:06] <imbusy> dapper-live-amd64.iso
[08:06] <suppaman> deoryp: is that lvm ?
[08:06] <Chousuke> Floid: I suppose it's more UNIX-like than Linux
[08:06] <Floid> Let me double-check the wording they're using, actually.  Apple claimed UNIX without paying for a long time. ;)
[08:06] <Pip> hellp
[08:06] <Pip> hello
[08:07] <Pip> how to use "at"?
[08:07] <Floid> There's a reason for that, it's literally derived from UNIX... but not the UNIX Linux attempts to clone, necessarily. ;)
[08:07] <imbusy> ok, anyone can answer me, whether this is a known bug, or not?
[08:07] <mikebot> drewbie42, once that line is in, how do i zoom?
[08:07] <imbusy> when installing dapper drake, the installation process halts at 71%, dapper-live-amd64.iso
[08:07] <Pip> how to use "at"?
[08:08] <drewbie42> mikebot: press f for fullscreen mode, it should zoom in all the wa
[08:08] <suppaman> Pip: man at
[08:08] <nysosym> hi all :D
[08:08] <mikebot> drewbie42, should i close then reopen mplayer?
[08:08] <Pip> suppaman, dont understand
[08:08] <Floid> Hmm, yeah, FreeBSD.org says "Based on BSD UNIX(R)" now, and they wouldn't be doing that if it hadn't been cleared somehow.
[08:08] <Pip> suppaman, I tried
[08:08] <sythen> hey
[08:08] <suppaman> Pip: type "man at" in a terminal or a terminal emulator
[08:09] <drewbie42> mikebot: i think so, probably
[08:09] <brandonbl79> !grub
[08:09] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:09] <Floid> I wonder if the 'Based on' is the trick.
[08:09] <suppaman> deoryp: what about "sudo umount /dev/hdc1" ?
[08:09] <Pip> suppaman, I dont understand what the man tells me
[08:09] <suppaman> Pip: is it a strange man page ?
[08:09] <deoryp> suppaman: it returns that/dev/hdc1 is mot mounted
[08:10] <Pip> suppaman, I mean I dont know how to use "at"
[08:10] <Pip> suppaman, can you give me an example
[08:10] <sythen> i did a default ubuntu installation, but there is a problem
[08:10] <sythen> do I need to turn of hyperthreading?
[08:11] <Pip> sybariten, no
[08:11] <suppaman> deoryp: and mounting it again =
[08:11] <suppaman> ?
[08:11] <Pip> sybariten, what is your problem ?
[08:11] <sythen> Pip me?
[08:11] <DBO> deoryp, whats your problem again (sorry just walked in and I think I know yours)
[08:11] <deoryp> suppaman: says either mounted or busy
[08:11] <Pip> sythen, yea
[08:12] <sythen> well ubuntu freezes when it is loading gnome
[08:12] <DBO> deoryp, where do you want to mount to and what file system is it?
[08:12] <Pip> sythen, do you know how to use 'at' ?
[08:12] <Pip> sythen, O,reboot
[08:12] <sythen> and on the startup, it shows an error of some chip
[08:12] <sythen> so it tries some different driver
[08:12] <deoryp> DB0: it is a ext3
[08:13] <sythen> too fast for me to see :\
[08:13] <sythen> but Pip no I dont know how to use at
[08:13] <DBO> deoryp, "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/evms/hdc1 /mnt"
[08:13] <Pip> sythen, what chip ?
[08:13] <sythen> Pip I dont know
[08:13] <sythen> it doesnt say
[08:13] <Ilokaaaasu> how can i format my external firewire hdd with gparted ? its locked somehow now...
[08:13] <Pip> sythen, then how do you think of this problem ?
[08:13] <jayrod06> guys anyone know how to get quicktime aac encoder into linux
[08:13] <jayrod06> please
[08:14] <themaan> how do I got archive suport for rar files
[08:14] <deoryp> DB0: that returns !!! waht!!
[08:14] <deoryp> DB0: that worked
[08:14] <DBO> deoryp, i know
[08:14] <DBO> =)
[08:14] <deoryp> DB0: what is evms?
[08:14] <sythen> Pip well I am going to try and disable HT anyway, ill be back if it works.. or doesnt
[08:14] <DBO> Enterprise Volume Management
[08:14] <Pip> sythen, good luck
[08:15] <sythen> thanks
[08:15] <suppaman> Pip: "echo ls > myat; at -f myat 12:00"
[08:15] <DBO> deoryp, it hijacked your drive, if you dont need RAID or centralized disk control you should probably turn it off...
[08:15] <Pip> suppaman, I dont understand your example
[08:16] <deoryp> DB0: it? ok, thanks! how to i turn off raid?
[08:16] <Pip> suppaman, see this one : at -c poweroff 3am ,is it OK?
[08:16] <DBO> deoryp, you can turn off EVMS (that was what I meant by it) by removing its startup script from rc2.d
[08:16] <deoryp> suppaman: thanks for your help too
[08:17] <Stargazers> Oliko renicess ett kun menee alle 0 niin sill on enemmn prossuaikaa?
[08:17] <Stargazers> Eli jos ohjelma lagaa pist prioriteetin 18:aan plussa?
[08:17] <Pip> suppaman, so I must creat a file containing some jobs ,right >
[08:17] <DBO> deoryp, you can leave it as is if you want, but whatever you do make sure you unmount the drive before you disable evms =)
[08:17] <Pip> suppaman, so I must creat a file containing some jobs ,right ?
[08:17] <Stargazers> Sorry, I asked on wrong channel
[08:18] <jayrod06> no one can help with the aac quicktime problem?
[08:19] <suppaman> Pip: I think so
[08:19] <suppaman> deoryp: lsof /dev/hdc1 ?
[08:19] <DBO> suppaman, its evms, we got it mounted, no worries
[08:20] <Pip> suppaman, how to list my jobs on the screen?
[08:20] <DBO> deoryp, once you have removed the symlink all you need to do to disable evms is reboot =)
[08:20] <deoryp> DB0: i am not seein there i can change the RAID startup stuff
[08:21] <Pip> suppaman, how to delete my jobs ?
[08:21] <DBO> deoryp, "sudo apt-get sysv-rc-conf" and "sudo sysv-rc-conf" then uncheck "evms" on every runlevel
[08:22] <Pip> DBO, Hi
[08:22] <DBO> hi pip?
[08:22] <Pip> DBO, how to use "at"?
[08:22] <Chousuke> Pip: have you read the manual page?
[08:22] <Pip> Chousuke, have,but dont understand
[08:22] <DBO> at -f [script]  TIME
[08:23] <nsillik> I can't install apache2-prefork-dev, I get the following error on apt-get ""apache2-prefork-dev: Depends: apache2-common (= 2.0.54-5ubuntu2) but 2.0.54-5ubuntu4 is to be installed""
[08:23] <nsillik> i'm trying to compile modjk (not modjk2) and i need axps2
[08:23] <IvanDragomilov> System Information for    [ Pardus ] 
[08:23] <IvanDragomilov> OS/Kernel                 Linux 2.6.14.4-15
[08:23] <IvanDragomilov> CPU Info                  AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ 1809.287 Mhz   3621.05 Bogomips
[08:23] <IvanDragomilov> HD Info                   0GB total storage capacity
[08:23] <IvanDragomilov> Memory                    214.855/1010.18MB
[08:23] <IvanDragomilov> Processes                 86
[08:23] <IvanDragomilov> Uptime                    1:03
[08:23] <DBO> !paste
[08:23] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[08:23] <DBO> and furthermore how did you pull off ubuntu with 2.6.14?
[08:24] <ricardo> hi.. ubuntu uses Xorg instead of XFree86  right?
[08:24] <Pip> DBO, how to list my jobs on the screen?
[08:24] <DBO> deoryp, did you disable evms in sysv-rc-conf
[08:24] <DBO> Pip, donno, I use cron usually
[08:24] <DBO> ricardo, yes
[08:24] <ricardo> ok thanks ;)
[08:24] <DBO> Pip, "atq"
[08:25] <ricardo> is there a ubuntu channel to learn how to install ati ?
[08:25] <Pip> DBO, pip@ubuntu:~$ cron
[08:25] <Pip> cron: can't open or create /var/run/crond.pid: Permission denied
[08:25] <girish> hi all
[08:25] <DBO> ricardo, not specifically, have you tried the wiki walkthroughs?
[08:25] <suppaman> DBO: what was the problem at last ?
[08:25] <deoryp> DB0: yeah, i unmounted my drive first, and then did that
[08:25] <deoryp> DB0: now ... i just reboot?
[08:25] <DBO> suppaman, evms hijacked the volume, seen it before so I know the fix is all
[08:25] <girish> am not able to compile any c program even after installing gcc with synaptic package manager...can anyone help?
[08:26] <Pip> girish, hi
[08:26] <ricardo> im trying one
[08:26] <girish> hi pip
[08:26] <ricardo> its not working .. :S
[08:26] <DBO> deoryp, now "sudo /etc/init.d/evms stop"
[08:26] <Pip> girish, are you fimilar with "at "?
[08:26] <suppaman> DBO: good to know, I've never had a look at logical volumes
[08:26] <girish> no i donno.
[08:26] <deoryp> DB0: came back clean
[08:26] <girish> at?
[08:26] <Arrick> anybody ever heard of an english gui for apache2?
[08:26] <Pip> girish, are you familiar with "at "?
[08:26] <girish> no
[08:27] <DBO> deoryp, now mount the volume using /dev/hdc1 (or whatever it was)
[08:27] <Arrick> I knwo there is one in polish
[08:27] <girish> i donno that
[08:27] <jayrod06> guys why no response to my question
[08:27] <girish> pip can u help me?
[08:27] <suppaman> Pip: did you at least read the whole man page
[08:27] <Pip> girish, I wish
[08:27] <DBO> jayrod06, mostly because quicktime is proprietary and support is spotchy and hard...  that and I dont use it =P
[08:28] <deoryp> DB0: it still is saying that it is mounted or busy, if i umount it says it is not mounted
[08:28] <Pip> suppaman, I am not good at English ,I dont understand it very well
[08:28] <DBO> deoryp, ok, give it a reboot
[08:28] <girish> wen i try to compile c programs on my system it says it can't find the header files even after installing gcc can anyone help?
[08:28] <deoryp> DB0: thank be back in awhile
[08:28] <Pip> girish, hehe~~it is easy question
[08:28] <suppaman> Pip: where are you from ?
[08:29] <girish> pip wat can i do
[08:29] <girish> ?
[08:29] <nickrud> girish, what header files?
[08:29] <Wallakoala> girish : sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:29] <girish> stdio.h
[08:29] <suppaman> Pip: isn't there a localized version in your language ? usually man pages do
[08:29] <DBO> girish, what kernel are you running and what arch?
[08:29] <Pip> girish, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:29] <girish> ok
[08:29] <girish> lemme try
[08:29] <mundisko> hi - has anybody tried configure s-video output on ubuntu ??
[08:29] <Pip> suppaman, china
[08:29] <girish> wat it does?
[08:30] <Pip> girish, Of course
[08:30] <DBO> girish, what is the output of "uname -r" on your system?
[08:30] <suppaman> does a basic launchpad registration allow to edit wiki pages at all ?
[08:30] <Pip> suppaman, only English
[08:30] <girish> u want to know kernel version?
[08:31] <Arrick> anybody ever heard of an english gui for apache2?
[08:31] <DBO> girish, yes
[08:31] <girish> mine is ubuntu breezy badger
[08:31] <suppaman> girish: "uname -r" in a terminal
[08:32] <Pip> girish, I know your problem
[08:32] <girish> 2.6.12-9-386
[08:32] <girish> wat pip?
[08:32] <Pip> girish, have you done?
[08:32] <girish> s
[08:32] <girish> i did
[08:32] <girish> y u need that?
[08:32] <Pip> girish, doesnot work?
[08:33] <girish> s
[08:33] <girish> it does
[08:33] <girish> i told u
[08:33] <Arrick> DBO, where is the file I need to edit to change the port a computer listens to?
[08:33] <Pip> girish, so your problem was involed ,right ?
[08:33] <crazy_penguin> evening!
[08:33] <DBO> Arrick, for what service?
[08:33] <Arrick> apache2
[08:33] <girish> hey pip i mean i said the kernel version
[08:33] <Arrick> httpd
[08:33] <DBO> girish, "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-386"
[08:34] <girish> i have to compile the code to c if it works
[08:34] <Arrick> sorry just remembered its all in that folder
[08:34] <girish> wat was the problem anyway?
[08:34] <Pip> girish, I didnot ask your kernel version
[08:34] <girish> ok
[08:34] <girish> some1 asked to run uname -r
[08:34] <DBO> Arrick, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[08:34] <Pip> girish, sudo apt-get install buil-essential
[08:34] <Pip> girish, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:35] <girish> wat is build essential?
[08:35] <Pip> girish, do it
[08:35] <Arrick> DBO, I found it
[08:35] <roryy> !info build-essential
[08:35] <deoryp> DB0: rebooted, it works like a champ thanks
[08:35] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[08:35] <girish> i did it
[08:35] <Arrick> thanks though
[08:35] <DBO> deoryp, yeah =)  have a good day
[08:35] <Arrick> ok, im going to take a nap, later guys
[08:35] <girish> it is downloading something
[08:35] <roryy> *rolls eyes* so much for ubotu
[08:35] <Subhuman> girish, in english that means, build-essential is a packages which contrains all the programs you need to compile C/C++ from source
[08:36] <Pip> girish, can you compile your C program successfully ?
[08:36] <themaan> hello
[08:36] <girish> ok wat if i can't compile java programs
[08:36] <girish> ?
[08:36] <DBO> stdio.h is a C library...
[08:36] <girish> ok
[08:36] <girish> thanx
[08:36] <themaan> is there anyway to mount an iso on command line or do you need a program, I tried mount name.iso but it didnt work so I asume I need a program
[08:37] <girish> thanku very much pip
[08:37] <girish> it worked
[08:37] <DBO> !iso
[08:37] <ubotu> hmm... iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[08:37] <Pip> girish, If you do what I told you to do ,you can compile your C programs
[08:37] <DBO> nope...
[08:37] <girish> s pip
[08:37] <girish> i did it
[08:37] <girish> thank u pip
[08:37] <themaan> I dont want to burn it
[08:37] <roryy> themaan: 'sudo mount -o loop /plaace/to/mount/point filename.iso'
[08:37] <Pip> girish, You are welcome
[08:37] <themaan> I just want to mount it
[08:37] <themaan> thanks
[08:37] <roryy> or is it the other way around
[08:37] <DBO> themaan, yeah, I thought the !iso had the info roryy just gave you
[08:37] <DBO> roryy, its the other way around
[08:37] <roryy> oops
[08:38] <roryy> haven't run mount in a while. my apologies
[08:38] <roryy> sudo mount -o loop filename.iso /plaace/to/mount/point
[08:38] <girish> pip i have another problem....can uhelp me....i installed the same thing on my intel machine(breezy badger) but i dont get my gui back once i switched to tty's
[08:38] <girish> how can i solve that?
[08:38] <themaan> does ther eneed to be a space inbetween the filename and the mount place
[08:38] <DBO> yes
[08:38] <themaan> ok thanks
[08:39] <roryy> alt-f7 shuold take you back to the graphical screen
[08:39] <DBO> ctrl+alt+f7 =)
[08:39] <girish>  pip i have another problem....can uhelp me....i installed the same thing on my intel machine(breezy badger) but i dont get my gui back once i switched to tty's
[08:39] <Pip> girish, let me see
[08:39] <girish> girish how can i solve that?
[08:39] <DBO> (or in some cases ctrl+alt+f9)
[08:39] <munzir> Hi, how can i remove a package like cman that gives errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14401
[08:39] <roryy> no, alt+f7 is sufficient from a tty
[08:40] <roryy> ctl+alt is necessary in X
[08:40] <girish> i have reported the problem as bug 5984 in launchpad
[08:40] <themaan> it didnt work it said /home/byron/Desktop is a directoryu
[08:40] <Pip> girish, press Ctrl+F7
[08:40] <girish> pip: i have reported the problem as bug 5984 in launchpad
[08:40] <DBO> roryy, wow... all this time Ive been wasting a keypress
[08:40] <ReMink> Hi !
[08:40] <girish> i did it
[08:40] <ricardo> how do i know what video driver is running on my computer? like which im using now
[08:40] <matcob> hola a toods
[08:40] <ReMink> Someone is on nUbuntu ?!
[08:40] <girish> but the machine didn't work
[08:40] <matcob> todos
[08:40] <DBO> girish, try alt+f7 or alt+f9
[08:41] <girish> instead it hangs
[08:41] <Pip> girish, press Ctrl+Alt+F7
[08:41] <girish> ok lemme c any way this is the 1st time am in this chat it is very useful and u people are all very nice...thank u very much
[08:41] <aLPHa_LeaK> bbl
[08:41] <suppaman> ricardo: it depends
[08:42] <ricardo> suppaman, oF? im trying to install ati drivers i wanna know if they are working atm
[08:42] <ReMink> HymnToLife: BOUH BOUH BOUH
[08:42] <suppaman> ricardo: so you're talking about X11 drivers
[08:42] <suppaman> ricardo: and glx too
[08:42] <ricardo> yes
[08:42] <Pip> girish, press Ctrl+Alt+F7
[08:42] <suppaman> ricardo: have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:43] <matcob> buenass
[08:44] <ricardo> Section "Device"
[08:44] <ricardo>     Identifier                          "ATI Graphics Adapter"
[08:44] <ricardo>     Driver                              "fglrx"
[08:45] <DBO> ricardo, is your gui working?
[08:45] <ricardo> yes
[08:45] <DBO> then you are running the ati drivers, congradulations
[08:45] <MetaMorfoziS> !java
[08:45] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:45] <ricardo> its that nvidia drivers show NVIDIA at start
[08:45] <aLPHa_LeaK> re
[08:45] <ricardo> does ati does that?
[08:46] <coreyo> my "Ubuntu Configuration" screen just comes up and hangs after I install ubuntu.  Every attempt to kill it just restarts it.  What are my options?
[08:46] <dreamless> !XGL
[08:46] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:46] <jayrod06> guys real quick how to remove nonempty directory in terminal
[08:46] <dreamless> rf -rf (dir)
[08:47] <DBO> jayrod06, rm -r /dir
[08:47] <Subhuman> jayrod06,  "rm --r "
[08:47] <plutonium> hello
[08:47] <plutonium> My Ubuntu is frozen
[08:47] <jayrod06> cool thanks
[08:47] <dreamless> np
[08:47] <plutonium> Gnome is stuck I Can't move anymore
[08:47] <plutonium> HELP ME
[08:47] <jayrod06> documentation said rm --directory
[08:48] <DBO> plutonium, are you using it right now to talk?
[08:48] <dreamless> plutonium: try restarting the x server
[08:48] <plutonium> DbD-, no i'm on a windows XP machine
[08:48] <dreamless> plutonium: CTRL + ALT + Backspace
[08:48] <plutonium> dreamless, ok
[08:48] <DbD-> ?
[08:48] <DbD-> DBO, =)
[08:48] <DbD-> not me
[08:48] <plutonium> scuse me
[08:48] <plutonium> :)
[08:48] <DBO> DbD-, =P  nick twins
[08:48] <plutonium> DBO,
[08:48] <DbD-> no problem =)
[08:48] <plutonium> yup
[08:49] <suppaman> how do I load an image on wiki ?
[08:49] <plutonium> sorry
[08:49] <DbD-> DBO, ;)
[08:49] <jayrod06> ok guys you were helpful with that but one last question i asked earlier
[08:49] <DbD-> i'am the D- model and you the O =)
[08:49] <jayrod06> i need aac encoding for ubuntu
[08:49] <jayrod06> but i dont want to use faac
[08:50] <jayrod06> i want quicktime because it was the best in listening tests from hydrogenaudio
[08:50] <coreyo> how do you kill the "Installing packages" / Ubuntu configuration screen when you first start up Ubuntu for the first time?
[08:50] <Nomius> Does anyone have a screenshot of ubuntu showing amsn?
[08:50] <coreyo> it just sits there and never does anything
[08:50] <jayrod06> so how can i incorporate quicktime aac encoding into say... rythembox or sound juicer
[08:51] <Subhuman> Nomius, what do you mean? I have Amsn
[08:51] <Nomius> Subhuman, do you have a screenshot showing amsn?
[08:51] <dreamless> Nomius: i can make one for you?
[08:52] <Nomius> Please dreamless
[08:52] <Nomius> Cuz I saw amsn in ubuntu, it looks like using gtk instead tk...
[08:52] <Subhuman> Nomius, running you mean?
[08:52] <Nomius> Yeah Subhuman
[08:52] <Subhuman> Nomius, if you want a good MSN client, I suggest Mercury Messenger
[08:53] <Nomius> Subhuman, java is very slow an heavy
[08:53] <mankeletor> Nomius: you're right
[08:53] <joebaker-home> I just installed 6.10 beta2 from text installer (install CD) - Won't boot.  Chose LVM method to Erase entire disk-no customizations.  I'm booted up on the 6.10 live cd now.  Should I bother trying to rescue the installation?
[08:53] <Subhuman> true, but Amsn looks crappy IMO
[08:53] <Subhuman> the fonts dont render well.
[08:53] <disinterested_pe> does any one know how to install ysflight
[08:54] <Nomius> Yeah, the fonts don't have antialiasing...
[08:54] <rab> !dapper
[08:54] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until than
[08:54] <Nomius> That's why I want to see the ubuntu screenshot of amsn :D
[08:54] <j2daosh> anyone in here know wine?
[08:54] <rab> yes
[08:54] <girish> hi PIp i am back again ......................
[08:54] <dreamless> Nomius: give me your email and you have it in a sec.
[08:55] <Nomius> dreamless, http://imageshack.us
[08:55] <Nomius> Post it there
[08:55] <Pip> girish, glad to see you back
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> >hic<
[08:55] <Subhuman> ill get a screeny if you wish though
[08:55] <girish> pip do u know abt an application cvoice control used to recognise commands from speech?
[08:55] <Pip> girish, DBO is right ,alt+f7 is OK
[08:55] <billytwowilly> if I want wget to grab all things linked to  on a page how would I tell it to do that?
[08:55] <girish> happy to have u here pip
[08:55] <lwizardl> can someone point me to a page for sharing a folder between ubuntu pc's
[08:56] <disinterested_pe> ysflight.tar.gz
[08:56] <girish> no it has some problem pip.
[08:56] <dreamless> Nomius: http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/9218/snapshot23zm.png
[08:56] <Nomius> Thanks dreamless
[08:56] <mankeletor> dreamless: If you don't have account in imageshack you can  post it in http://tinypic.com/
[08:56] <legoscia> billytwowilly: wget -r or something... check up the details in the manpage
[08:56] <Pip> girish, I dont know
[08:56] <Nomius> Looks shitty like in everywhere :-S
[08:57] <Pip> girish, But if you know the commands ,you can use grep
[08:57] <girish> pip i tried to compile and install an application cvoicecontrol on ubuntu...i could run ./configure successfully but wen i tried'make' it reports eroor as follows
[08:57] <billytwowilly> legoscia: woot! it's working! thanks.
[08:57] <girish> pip i tried to compile and install an application cvoicecontrol on ubuntu...i could run ./configure successfully but wen i tried'make' it reports eroor as follows
[08:58] <dreamless> Nomius: np
[08:58] <girish> pip i tried to compile and install an application cvoicecontrol on ubuntu...i could run ./configure successfully but wen i tried'make' it reports eroor as follows
[08:58] <Rug> Howdy all
[08:58] <girish> key_right undeclared
[08:58] <Subhuman> Nomius, http://img303.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot8sv.png
[08:58] <girish>  key_right undeclared
[08:58] <Subhuman> I mean it does look similar to MSN, but meh, prefer Mercury.
[08:58] <girish>  key_left undeclared
[08:58] <Nomius> Subhuman: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/show_image.php?id=83 <---- There's a skin for ubuntu with nice fonts (antialiased)
[08:58] <girish> etc etc
[08:59] <Subhuman> Mercury has great scripting ability too.,
[08:59] <DBO> Subhuman, wow thats a huge home folder...
[08:59] <dbcalo> where do i find the kernel sources for 2.6.15-23-386? so far i haven't been able to find them.
[08:59] <Subhuman> DBO, nice and easy to click, since your clicking it alot may as well make it big :D
[08:59] <girish> it also says sytax error before '*' token
[08:59] <girish> in ncurses tools library
[08:59] <felipe__> Anyone else here uses Seahorse? does it integrates with nautilus and gedit as it says in the manual. I ask because I just installed it and it is not integrated with nautilus or gedi
[08:59] <DBO> Subhuman, thats the most brilliant logic I have heard for large icons yet... usually its some nonsense about bad eyes
[09:00] <osotogari> whats aMSN?
[09:00] <girish> is that the problem of some library
[09:00] <girish> ?
[09:00] <Rounan> Hi. I'm having problems compiling some test programs in the opencv library. I got the library from cvs, and it installed in /usr/local instead of /usr. I've added /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf, and I've also copied the .h files into the /usr/include directory, but the compile still complains about "undefined reference to <basic function>"
[09:00] <jayrod06> anyone get aac encoding in ubuntu?
[09:00] <Subhuman> lol nope, the more used they are the bigger they should be :D
[09:00] <suppaman> does anyone know how do I submit an attachment to a wiki.ubuntu page??
[09:00] <khelsys> boys i need an help :'(
[09:00] <DBO> Subhuman, so your second monitor is just a terminal icon?
[09:00] <Subhuman> DBO, I didn't even know you could make them big until about a month ago.....
[09:00] <Rounan> I think it's because the references in the .h files aren't being handled properly. Does anyone have any ideas?
[09:00] <dreamless> osotogari: A msn chat client
[09:00] <Subhuman> lol no my 3rd workspace is :D
[09:00] <dbcalo> where do i find the kernel sources for 2.6.15-23-386? so far i haven't been able to find them. i can only find the 2.4 sources. they don't seem to be on any of the mirrors as well. attempting to install nvidia drivers.
[09:01] <osotogari> @ dreamless: is it in the repos? I might give it a whirl for the laugh
[09:01] <ciaron> best site for ubuntu news?
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> ciaron,  i would guess the ubuntu homepage.
[09:01] <nickrud> suppaman, the drop box next to subscribe
[09:01] <khelsys> does someone know how to make a compressed file for an icon set for my gnome?
[09:01] <j2daosh> what is the wine channel name?
[09:01] <dreamless> osotogari: you might have to enable backport or multiverse dont know where it is..
[09:02] <dreamless> dont think its in the "normal" port collection..
[09:02] <DBO> j2daosh, #winehq
[09:02] <khelsys> can someone help me? >.<
[09:02] <DBO> !helpme
[09:02] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[09:02] <suppaman> nickrud: thanks
[09:02] <osotogari> cool, ill check it out anyway! :)
[09:02] <j2daosh> ahh... kept putting in a dash
[09:02] <khelsys>  does someone know how to make a compressed file for an icon set for my gnome?
[09:02] <suppaman> nickrud: I cannot find subscribe ..
[09:03] <suppaman> nickrud: found
[09:03] <DBO> khelsys, tar cz /path/to/folder
[09:03] <khelsys> but
[09:03] <khelsys> i need to
[09:03] <khelsys> make a theme file
[09:03] <khelsys> do you understand me?
[09:03] <DBO> khelsys, yes and no I dont kno whow to do that...
[09:04] <nickrud> khelsys, the theme file is just a tarred & gzipped file, no special format
[09:04] <disinterested_pe> can someone help me install yaflight.tar.gz?
[09:04] <khelsys> i've to make a file that dragged on the theme manager install the icons theme
[09:04] <khelsys> i know nickrud
[09:04] <sybariten> hm....   someone appearently wrote a comment to me here in the last 2 hrs. Any way to check up what it was?  :)
[09:04] <DBO> khelsys, tar cz foo.tar /path/to/folder/  (sorry, syntax is fun)
[09:04] <sybariten> irssi showed me a red number, but i'm not sure its in my buffer
[09:04] <DBO> khelsys, tar cf foo.tar /path/to/folder/  (so are typoes)
[09:04] <khelsys> but how to make a list of GOOD icons?
[09:05] <khelsys> icons that goes automatically in the right place?
[09:05] <DBO> khelsys, just copy all the icons you want into the right folder
[09:05] <DBO> and tar it up I guess...
[09:05] <khelsys> i don't know >.<
[09:05] <sybariten> hah, found it
[09:05] <nickrud> khelsys, that's determined by the layout of the theme directory, and the names of the files in that directory
[09:05] <Rounan> DBO: should probably be tar -cf foo.tar /path/to/folder/ (without the dash, "cf" is interpreted as a file)
[09:05] <sybariten> it was Pip that mistook sythen (or sometjhing) for me
[09:06] <DBO> Rounan, this is why I have aliases for this crap...
[09:06] <khelsys> where are the icons in use linked?
[09:06] <Pip> sybariten, hehe
[09:06] <sybariten> ok next question .. i have an ubuntu desktop version here, with an old firefox installed. How do i easily upgrade that? Can i find out what the apt-name for the package is, and upgrade that way?
[09:06] <Pip> sybariten, did I ? sorry !
[09:06] <sybariten> Pip: yeah, someone asked "do i need to turn of hyperthreading", and you said "sybariten: no"
[09:06] <sybariten> np
[09:07] <DBO> Hyperthreading would use an SMP core would it not?
[09:07] <DBO> s/core/kernel/
[09:08] <Rounan> sybariten: system->administration->synaptic package manager. search for "firefox"
[09:08] <MENDIGO> When I get files from a CD-ROM and transfer to my HD they come with modification permission only for root user, how can i change that?
[09:08] <nickrud> khelsys, the current theme name is in a file under ~/.gconf/apps/desktop/interface/
[09:08] <sybariten> Rounan: good idea! thanks
[09:08] <Rounan> sybariten: but the automatic updates should take care of keeping packages up to date. if not, sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:09] <sybariten> Rounan: aaah so it has an "upgrade" option too...
[09:10] <sybariten> Rounan: but will that start upgrading programs like an idiot ?
[09:10] <sybariten> random programs, that is
[09:10] <uwo> hi all. has anyone managed to transfer videos to ipod video? need a hint with gtkpod.
[09:10] <harisund> sybariten upgrades individual packages whose upgrades don't depend on other packages. If there are multiple dependancies, or there is a kernal update, you will need to do apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:11] <sybariten> harisund: ok ... coz i'm not too keen on starting somehting that will try and update everything i have that looks older than in the repositories (or what they are called)
[09:12] <blank_> hey guys
[09:12] <blank_> I have an .img file, how cna I put it on a floppy
[09:12] <harisund> I believe 'upgrade' won't install new packages.
[09:12] <harisund> that is the biggest difference. So if a newer version of a package needs a whole new library, upgrade won't affect it.
[09:13] <Rounan> Hi. I'm having problems compiling some test programs in the opencv library. I got the library from cvs, and it installed in /usr/local instead of /usr. I've added /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf, and I've also copied the .h files into the /usr/include directory, but the compile still complains about "undefined reference to <basic function>" I think it's because the references in the .h files aren't being handled properly. Does anyon
[09:13] <Rounan> e have any ideas?
[09:13] <nickrud> upgrade will pull in a new package dependency, but it won't remove packages; dist-upgrade will
[09:14] <rightcoast> ubuntu (cannonical) signs nda's for binaries?
[09:15] <nickrud> erg, no new packages. Thinking of the wrong app, sorry
[09:16] <Bizzeh> are play4sure (MTP) devices supported in ubuntu?
[09:16] <sybariten> euhhh w00t? isnt there a more recent version of firefox than 1.08 ?
[09:16] <drewbie42> Rounan: try 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' that might work
[09:17] <nickrud> !ff1.5
[09:17] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:17] <Rounan> drewbie42: I have that already - I compiled and installed the library from source. the compiler is working, it's jsut getting confused somehow.
[09:17] <sybariten> nickrud: ok so thats something of a hack or what?
[09:18] <suppaman> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperXubuntuCdFaces
[09:18] <nickrud> sybariten, sort of. 1.0.8 is woven thru breezy, and will need to stay.
[09:18] <sybariten> nickrud: ahh dang.
[09:18] <sybariten> nickrud: a lot of plugs i'll loose because of that ?
[09:19] <nickrud> sybariten, you won't be able to tell the diff when you're done. I think the wiki explains how to transfer all your settings.
[09:19] <sybariten> nickrud: hm, i meant....
[09:20] <sybariten> nickrud: 1.08 means a lot of common plugs today won't run ?
[09:20] <Rounan> sybariten: if anything, the reverse is true. I upgraded to dapper, which uses 1.5, and 3 of my plugins stopped working.
[09:20] <nickrud> sybariten, If they weren't written for proper compatibility
[09:21] <Bizzeh> Rounan: get the updated 1.5 versions
[09:21] <disinterested_pe> ok after i got easyubuntu installed last night stream link worked why wont it work now?
[09:21] <sybariten> Rounan: thats odd ... i run 1.5 or something on XP now and i have this feeling that my older version of FF didnt like some plugs
[09:21] <sybariten> the plugs responded that "you need a more recent version of FF" ... but i might be wrong
[09:22] <Rounan> bizzeh: they don't exist - the plugin authors haven't ported. they are: tabbrowser preferences, bandwidth tester, graphite theme icons
[09:22] <Rounan> sybariten: nothing too important. adblocker and mouse gestures both updated and they work.
[09:24] <chrisbudden14> hello
[09:25] <chrisbudden14> I've got things running when I log in that are not listen in gnome-session-properties
[09:25] <chrisbudden14> stuff thats open when I log out
[09:25] <GlassCasket> I just got my mom using Ubuntu. ;)
[09:25] <chrisbudden14> and i don't want it do
[09:25] <chrisbudden14> *to
[09:25] <tigerspirit> Question:  I had a useful auto updater on my upper panel which i inadvertently deleted -- at least from the panel.  It also no longer notifies me on Thursdays of the updates.  I've been all over the ubuntu and Gnome sites and found no hint as to how to get it back.  Can anyone here tell me how to restore the updater to the panel?
[09:26] <suppaman> bye
[09:27] <sybariten> ok i tyhink adblocker installed, actually
[09:27] <sybariten> porn ads bye bye
[09:27] <nickrud> tigerspirit, I think alt-F2 update-notifier will restart it. I'm not deleting mine to test :)
[09:27] <nocen> evning folks :)
[09:28] <nocen> anyone installed ubuntu on a asus a6v ?
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> Hmm...
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> that sounds familer nocen
[09:29] <GlassCasket> What do you need to know about isntalling on an Asus A6V?
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> I think i got an A7V motherboard however.
[09:29] <nocen> well i just did heh and it hangs on hotplug on startup
[09:30] <disinterested_pe> ok what does this mean?
[09:30] <disinterested_pe> Totem could not play 'mmsh://a814.l1977144512.c19771.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/814/19771/v0001/reflector:44512?MSWMExt=.asf'
[09:30] <nocen> havent found any answers on the web
[09:30] <cas> Does anyone know if this hardware could give problems on dapper? : http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&cc=nl&dlc=en&product=1847380&lang=en&docname=c00659712#
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> nocen,  could try the standad options of 'noapci' 'noapic'
[09:31] <nocen> Dr_Willis: ok ill try
[09:32] <zne> im new to linux and right now im using umbutu live-cd seems really nice so far. but im having some trouble mounting my discs. does anyone have the time to help me? :)
[09:32] <jerome_> bonjour a tous
[09:33] <|lostbyte|> I want to reconfigure a package i installed and replace the changes in made to default, How ?
[09:33] <Bizzeh> ok, im missing just a few small things for me to switch from xp to kubuntu
[09:33] <Bizzeh> 1. creative zen xtra (P4S MTP) support. 2. a decent c++ dev environment. 3. better hardware acelleration for gfx
[09:33] <jerome_> ya des francais du site du zero ?
[09:33] <dashriKe> recommendations for a good socket A mobo?
[09:34] <visik7> dashriKe: I was happy with an abit KT400
[09:34] <zne> hehe, everyone's got questions :)
[09:34] <The_thing> http://www.ssrc.org/wiki/POSA/index.php?title=Main_Page
[09:34] <hedrek> how can i test fps after install nvidia-glx? glxgears doesn't report it
[09:34] <The_thing> Please go there
[09:34] <sladen> zne: System->Administration->Disks->[password] ->[disk] ->Partitions->Enable
[09:34] <The_thing> http://www.ssrc.org/wiki/POSA/index.php?title=Main_Page
[09:34] <|lostbyte|> !glxgear
[09:34] <ubotu> |lostbyte|: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:34] <|lostbyte|> !glxgears
[09:34] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[09:34] <hedrek> good lord
[09:34] <|lostbyte|> hedrek: ^
[09:35] <hedrek> thanks
[09:36] <disinterested_pe> i have a question
[09:36] <Rug> disinterested_pe: Just ask
[09:37] <disinterested_pe> after installing easy ubuntu streamlink worked y doesnt it work now?
[09:37] <Rug> hedrek: the "best" test to see if OpenGL is installed and working type this:   glxinfo |grep direct      if it says YES then the answer is 'Yes'
[09:38] <g0dchild> How do i install w32codecs? it doesnt work from apt-get install
[09:38] <g0dchild> !codecs
[09:38] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[09:38] <disinterested_pe> now i get this againotem could not play 'mmsh://a814.l1977144512.c19771.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/814/19771/v0001/reflector:44512?MSWMExt=.asf'.
[09:38] <g0dchild> !easysource
[09:38] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:38] <cas> !hp
[09:38] <ubotu> hp is probably at http://www.hp.com/pressrel/jun99/21jun99g.htm, or *the* original brown sauce from 1889. See: http://www.higherdesign.com/brownsauce/hpsauce.htm.  Hewlett Packard, maker of calculators and printers and computers and other silicon goodness
[09:39] <chrisbudden14> how can I stop gnome-session from saving my session
[09:39] <dreamless> chrisbudden14: i belive its under preferences -> Sessions :)
[09:40] <dreamless> remove the x from the "save automatic changes in session"
[09:40] <chrisbudden14> yes
[09:40] <chrisbudden14> ok
[09:40] <ditso> can somebody help me?
[09:40] <dreamless> !helpme
[09:40] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[09:40] <ditso> ghehe
[09:40] <blank_> !recovergrub
[09:40] <ubotu> hmm... recovergrub is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:41] <ditso> i'm running the install for amsn
[09:41] <ditso> and having this error
[09:41] <chrisbudden14> so if I want to save changes, so no programs run, shall i tick automatically save, set the programs, logout then untick dreamless
[09:41] <ditso> (main.tcl:8084): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[09:41] <ditso> (main.tcl:8084): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[09:41] <ditso> (main.tcl:8084): Gdk-WARNING **: Error converting from UTF-8 to STRING: Conversie van tekenset 'UTF-8' naar 'ISO-8859-1' wordt niet ondersteund
[09:41] <ditso> (main.tcl:8084): Gdk-WARNING **: Error converting from UTF-8 to STRING: Conversie van tekenset 'UTF-8' naar 'ISO-8859-1' wordt niet ondersteund
[09:41] <ditso> (main.tcl:8084): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/engines/libclearlooks.so: kan gedeeld objektbestand niet openen: Onbekend bestand of map
[09:41] <blank_> !recovergrub
[09:41] <ditso> Segmentatie fout
[09:41] <blank_> !tell ditso about pastebin
[09:41] <dreamless> hehe
[09:41] <dreamless> !pastebin
[09:41] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:41] <ditso> sorry
[09:42] <try_it_over> hi all, i installed kopete from source code, svn version. I changed /etc/bash.bashrc to add KDEDIR and other system wide variables. On bash, kopete starts fine. But i cant get it work from icons on my desktop. Could u guys help me to place my KDE variables on the right place?
[09:42] <ditso> so can somebody help me?
[09:42] <Genfoo> maybe
[09:42] <ditso> you read the error?
[09:42] <dreamless> !ubuntu-desktop
[09:42] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop is probably a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading
[09:42] <disinterested_pe> how do i install easyubuntu again?
[09:43] <h3h_timo> !remove kde
[09:43] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, h3h_timo
[09:43] <zne> there are no root under ubuntu live-cd?
[09:43] <h3h_timo> does anyone know how to remove all of kde with only one command?
[09:43] <try_it_over>  Could u guys help me to place my KDE variables on the right place?
[09:43] <hangfire> rm kde.*
[09:43] <nickrud> h3h_timo, sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt will do about 99% of it
[09:44] <h3h_timo> nickrud, thanks
[09:44] <h3h_timo> nickrud, what wont it remove?
[09:44] <hangfire> can anyone tell me how I find out what version of ubuntu Im running?
[09:44] <try_it_over>  Could u guys help me to place my KDE variables on the right place?
[09:44] <disinterested_pe> theres a tvxf command what goes in front of that
[09:44] <dashriKe> I wish my stuff worked
[09:44] <nickrud> h3h_timo, arts for one, if you have it installed.
[09:45] <dashriKe> or if I were smart enough to understand why it doesn't
[09:45] <h3h_timo> !arts
[09:45] <ubotu> h3h_timo: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:45] <h3h_timo> nickrud, what is arts?
[09:45] <nickrud> sound server h3h_timo
[09:45] <hangfire> can anyone tell me how I find out what version of ubuntu Im running?
[09:45] <try_it_over>  hi all, i installed kopete from source code, svn version. I changed /etc/bash.bashrc to add KDEDIR and other system wide variables. On bash, kopete starts fine. But i cant get it work from icons on my desktop. Could u guys help me to place my KDE variables on the right place?
[09:45] <nickrud> hangfire, lsb_release -a
[09:46] <hangfire> thanks nickr\
[09:46] <h3h_timo> nickrud, thanks
[09:47] <alexcamilo{u}> apt-get says i have "broken packages"
[09:47] <alexcamilo{u}> is there any way t get rid of em
[09:47] <nickrud> try_it_over, maybe /etc/profile ?
[09:47] <Tuzlo> it sould have told you how to fix them
[09:48] <try_it_over> nickrud, problem is that it does not work when i place there
[09:48] <nickrud> try_it_over, hence the question mark :)
[09:48] <try_it_over> but it works fine when i place on bashrc
[09:48] <try_it_over> except for start icons
[09:49] <alexcamilo{u}> it says some packages have unmet dependancies
[09:50] <h3h_timo> does anyone have a recommendation for a laptop to run ubuntu on?
[09:50] <nickrud> alexcamilo{u}, try sudo apt-get update & then try the install again. If that doesn't work, you need to fix your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:51] <Blissex> h3h_timo: how much money?
[09:51] <Blissex> h3h_timo: BTW, for a cheap one, link to follow.
[09:51] <Draconicus> What do I need to make K3b able to handle mp3s?
[09:51] <alexcamilo{u}> i'm running it on an 333mhz ibook. the only downside is low resolution.
[09:51] <h3h_timo> Blissex, umm.. doesnt matter.. less than 1500... umm my graduation party is coming up so whatever i get from that
[09:52] <ztripez> how do i get the "cc" command to work? /me = newbie
[09:52] <L33TrDaNu> ztripez: what are you trying to do ?
[09:52] <nickrud> Draconicus, sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3 I think
[09:52] <hangfire> I get this error when I start up apt-get, can anyone tell me what it means?          W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:52] <hangfire> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:52] <dreamless> !pastebin
[09:52] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:53] <nalioth> hangfire: please don't paste in here (read the /topic please, it is there for your benefit)
[09:53] <hangfire> sry
[09:53] <nickrud> hangfire, comment out the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list & sudo apt-get update
[09:53] <Draconicus> nickrud: Are you just guessing at that, or what? :P
[09:53] <hangfire> thanks nickrud!!
[09:53] <ztripez> L33TrDaNu,  well i'm trying to install the latest nVidia drivers because the "apt-get" one dosent work on my system... but when i run the nvidia installer it complain that "cc" isnt iinstalled
[09:53] <nickrud> Draconicus, nah, I picked it up off the wiki, but the page wasn't pretty
[09:54] <Draconicus> nickrud: Ah.
[09:54] <L33TrDaNu> I am running a tri-monitor setup with two NVIDIA cards. One is a dualhead, and the other is a single head. Stock drivers weren't working. So I manually compiled and installed 8756 drivers. They work beautifully. However when I reboot and startx I get one monitor that is half white and half black. I have to reboot (machine is frozen, just video output is messed up)
[09:54] <L33TrDaNu> ztripez: do a "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[09:54] <Draconicus> Anyone with the correct answer?
[09:54] <Blissex> h3h_timo: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2006/05/laptops-and-laundry.html
[09:54] <L33TrDaNu> ztripez: that will pull down the files you need
[09:54] <ztripez> L33TrDaNu,  thanks :D
[09:55] <HellDragon> hi
[09:55] <L33TrDaNu> If I manually recompile and install the nvidia 8756 drivers and then run 'startx' everything works
[09:55] <L33TrDaNu> but i have to recompile and reinstall them every time i reboot
[09:55] <HellDragon> how can i dpkg a .deb ? i forgot what to put betwen dpkg and .deb
[09:55] <L33TrDaNu> it is not just with the 8756 that i have to do this. It is with any NVIDIA custom compiled and installed drivers
[09:55] <nalioth> !deb
[09:55] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[09:55] <HellDragon> ok thanks it works
[09:56] <blahblahdude> hello
[09:56] <HellDragon> take care of the swarm
[09:56] <L33TrDaNu> anyone here custom compile nvidia drviers and get similar issue with half-white/half-black screen after reboot ?
[09:56] <blahblahdude> anybody happen to know if a linksys wpc54g will work on ubuntu?
[09:56] <ztripez> ok.. i'll give it a try.. cya l8
[09:57] <Draconicus> L33TrDaNu: The likelihood of that is like the needle in a haystack probability.
[09:57] <L33TrDaNu> Draconicus: really? I get the same problem on three separate systems running three different sets of NVIDIA drivers. One is the 8756, one is the 7676 and one is the 7667. All are dual or tri monitor setups.
[09:57] <dashriKe> anywhere I could find a site comparing different socket A mobos?
[09:59] <fightp1> dashriKe, tomsh
[09:59] <rb2k> hi... I use ubuntu and was thinking about using ktorrent. Would it be an "overkill" to use a kde app on gnome concerning ram usage?
[09:59] <rb2k> (it will use qt?)
[09:59] <fightp1> dashriKe, tomshardware.com is a plece to look at
[10:00] <Draconicus> L33TrDaNu: I mean the likelihood of somebody else knowing exactly what you're talking about, let alone somebody having done it themselves. You're situation involves an unusual practice, especially when using two different cards, and involves specific models. Not everyone would have those models, and very, very few would try dual monitors with anything but identical cards, I think.
[10:00] <dashriKe> was reading toms, but hadn't found much of use to my simple mind
[10:00] <L33TrDaNu> Draconicus: ah. Yeah I do crazy things because of cost issues, need to reuse as much as possible =(
[10:01] <h3h_timo> Blissex, thanks, what kind of system arey ou personally urnning?
[10:01] <L33TrDaNu> Draconicus: I think i found me issue...!
[10:01] <Draconicus> L33TrDaNu: Yeah. I know how you feel with the cost thing. I'm lucky, though.. I managed to get 20 or so free computers, of various ages, from my school. They don't care about their donated stuff or older machines. I loves schools...
[10:02] <Blissex> h3h_timo: I have a semi-recent Athlon64 754 socket motherboard and an ancient PIII 800MHz laptop
[10:02] <L33TrDaNu> Draconicus: yeah schools are nice. I remember buying some old HPs a few years back for $15
[10:02] <Blissex> h3h_timo: I have been looking into sub-$1,000 laptops too... But then I want an Athlon 64 based one too.
[10:02] <h3h_timo> Blissex, would you recommend gettin a 64 based system or sticking with 32
[10:02] <L33TrDaNu> For anyone how has the issue where after reboot they have to recompile their NVIDIA drivers, check out
[10:02] <Blissex> h3h_timo: you probably don't need that extra constraint
[10:02] <L33TrDaNu> For anyone how has the issue where after reboot they have to recompile their NVIDIA drivers, check out http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=56114&highlight=ubuntu+reinstall+driver
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> h3h_timo,  i get amd64 based machines  - but use the 32bit disrtos for now.
[10:03] <L33TrDaNu> in case this channel is logged and searched
[10:03] <Blissex> h3h_timo: I am interested in 64 bit only for technical reasons. For a while yet 32 bit is all most people need
[10:04] <h3h_timo> Dr_Willis, you can run 32 bit distos on 64 bit based machines?
[10:04] <DBO> h3h_timo, quite well
[10:04] <njan> h3h_timo, yes
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> h3h_timo,  of course. :P
[10:04] <aj_> i can't get my tv card to work
[10:04] <h3h_timo> so it doesnt matter? if i get a laptop with a 64 bit turion processor it will work fine?
[10:04] <belleke> are there backports for dapper ?
[10:04] <aj_> there is no /dev/video directory?
[10:04] <DBO> h3h_timo, yes
[10:05] <aj_> why would that be?
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> h3h_timo,  i got a Turion based laptop. Compaq V2311. works decent with linux
[10:05] <Blissex> h3h_timo: 32 bit distos on 64 bit thats actually impossible as stated. But virtually all 63 bit CPUs also simulate a 32 bit CPU.
[10:05] <Blissex> h3h_timo: ASeigo's laptop seemed to ''just work'' and be pretty nice.
[10:05] <h3h_timo> well... i was going to order from tiger direct.. and then dual boot ubuntu and windows
[10:05] <TheBigToe> how do I mount an NTFS drive with write permissions?
[10:06] <njan> TheBigToe, you don't, linux write support is sketchy at best
[10:06] <TheBigToe> I mean, read.
[10:06] <Blissex> h3h_timo: anyhow for Turion 64 laptops I have looked at them, and I liked the HP 6215 and the Acer 5002
[10:06] <njan> TheBigToe, mount -t ntfs -o ro
[10:06] <belleke> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME I WAS WONDERING IF THERE ARE BACKPORTS FOR UBUNTU DAPPER?
[10:06] <Blissex> !ntfs
[10:06] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:06] <TheBigToe> thanks
[10:06] <h3h_timo> Blissex, i heard acers arent good with linux for some reason?
[10:06] <DBO> belleke, lay off the caps please
[10:06] <ruchbah> TheBigToe - you'll trash your NT, don't do it
[10:06] <Blissex> h3h_timo: depends on which one...
[10:06] <belleke> WHY?
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> belleke,  most people proberly have you on ignore by now.
[10:07] <h3h_timo> lol im gonna look at the 5002
[10:07] <Blissex> belleke: most write drivers for NTFS have bugs...
[10:07] <TheBigToe> LET'S ALL BE REALLY ANNOYING AND TALK IN CAPS
[10:07] <DBO> belleke, because its annoying and wont get you answers (but will get you ignored)...
[10:07] <TheBigToe> and if it'll mess up NT then I might as well boot into it
[10:07] <TheBigToe> cya
[10:07] <AsCo_> Hi all, is someone using freeradius here?
[10:08] <belleke> sorry didn't know
[10:08] <Genfoo> -_-
[10:08] <TehMessiah> Hey. Anyone from Poland ?
[10:08] <DBO> !pl
[10:08] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:08] <TehMessiah> thx
[10:08] <Genfoo> TehMessiah, :D
[10:08] <TehMessiah> :D
[10:09] <h3h_timo> Blissex, and the rest of you, thanks for yor help, when im making my final decision i will check with all of you to see what you think
[10:09] <AsCo_> Allo, un Qubcois ici ?  message moi , j'ai besoin d'aide!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:10] <d_v0id> hi guys, has anyone susessfully managed to set ulimit, i cannot set ulimit -n, it always reverts back to defalt 1024
[10:10] <Blissex> AsCo_: #Linux-Quebec
[10:10] <Blissex> d_v0id: got to be 'root'
[10:11] <AsCo_> Blissex: Thank you :)
[10:11] <hedrek> !cups
[10:11] <ubotu> methinks cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[10:11] <Blissex> d_v0id: got to be 'root', at least to raise the existing limit
[10:11] <crowley1027> Who here can help with my installation of ubuntu
[10:11] <d_v0id> yeah i did it as root then when i close console and open again to check it reverts back to 1024
[10:11] <Genfoo> crowley1027, everybody and nobody
[10:11] <crowley1027> cool.
[10:11] <crowley1027> Here's my problem
[10:11] <Genfoo> just ask :)
[10:11] <hedrek> what's the deal with CUPS admin, do I have to enable root passwd?
[10:11] <crowley1027> I install ubuntu on a HDD dedicated to linux
[10:11] <crowley1027> i tried SuSE previously, didn't work.
[10:11] <crowley1027> so i do ubuntu
[10:12] <crowley1027> install...
[10:12] <crowley1027> it pops out the CD and reboots
[10:12] <BAD-IDEA> hi, i ocnfigured Tomcat to work throug Apache2 i followedthe how to forge tutorial and i first domain.com/jsp-examepls/ working just fine but wheni try to configre my secondomain.com its not finding the JSP files even hat JSP files are there any clues ?
[10:12] <crowley1027> upon reboot
[10:12] <crowley1027> NO BOOT DEVICE DETECTED, PLEASE INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS F1 TO CONTINUE
[10:12] <crowley1027> :(
[10:12] <Overand> crowley1027: do you still have a windows HD?
[10:12] <crowley1027> *running it*
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> hedrek,   theres a discussion of it - on the forums/wiki - as to what ya got to do to renable the full use of it.
[10:12] <Overand> installed in that machine, that is now inaccessible?
[10:12] <crowley1027> haven't tried
[10:12] <Overand> or did you yank the windows HD
[10:12] <crowley1027> only tried on one HDD
[10:13] <crowley1027> got two hds
[10:13] <crowley1027> this and linux
[10:13] <crowley1027> :)
[10:13] <Overand> but are they both installed?
[10:13] <Overand> or do you actually 'swap' them?
[10:13] <crowley1027> i have ONLY windows XP on this hd
[10:13] <crowley1027> on the other hd is the screwed up linux
[10:13] <crowley1027> that don't wanna work.
[10:13] <crowley1027> doesn't*
[10:13] <crowley1027> the windows XP HD works fine in this computer
[10:14] <Overand> what i'm asking is this: when you installed ubuntu, were both hard drives in the machine?
[10:14] <crowley1027> but the linux won't instuall
[10:14] <crowley1027> no
[10:14] <Overand> ok
[10:14] <crowley1027> i physically swapped
[10:14] <jcole> var plugin = navigator.mimeTypes["application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.5.0_01"] 
[10:14] <crowley1027> *checks jumper*
[10:14] <jcole> ^^^ someone has that javascript in a web page... i have a later version of 1.5.0_06 so it does not work... where can i add this 1.5.0_01 version mime type so it works?
[10:14] <Overand> did you use Ubuntu 5.10 or the 'prerelease' of the new on e?
[10:14] <Overand> yeah
[10:14] <Overand> good thing to check
[10:14] <Bonaldo2000> hello? Testing...can anyone read this?
[10:14] <crowley1027> :9
[10:14] <P0ldy> everyone can.
[10:15] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: yes
[10:15] <crowley1027> can i curse in here?  once?
[10:15] <gnomefreak> crowley1027: no
[10:15] <crowley1027> :(
[10:15] <crowley1027> ITS ON SLAVE
[10:15] <crowley1027> THE HARD DRIVE JUMPER IS SET ON SLAVE
[10:15] <crowley1027> :(:(:(
[10:15] <crowley1027> sorry
[10:15] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: ok good! I have a question actually!
[10:15] <ruchbah> eureka!
[10:15] <crowley1027> all of those CD's and DVD's burnt for nothing
[10:15] <crowley1027> garr
[10:15] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: ask it than
[10:15] <Overand> crowley1027: don't frown, heh
[10:15] <Overand> that means you've found the problem
[10:15] <Overand> =] 
[10:15] <crowley1027> i can't believe that was it
[10:15] <BAD-IDEA> hi, i ocnfigured Tomcat to work throug Apache2 i followed the how to forge tutorial and i first domain.com/jsp-examepls/ working just fine but wheni try to configre my secondomain.com its not finding the JSP files even hat JSP files are there any clues ?
[10:16] <crowley1027> ridiculus
[10:16] <Overand> dude, it happens to the 'best' of us.
[10:16] <Bonaldo2000> whenever I try to run some programs like synaptic with sudo I get: (synaptic:28476): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[10:16] <AsCo_> who can helpme with freeradius?
[10:16] <andrejkw> hey guys
[10:16] <andrejkw> i gto a prob
[10:16] <andrejkw> i have no sound when playing enemy territory
[10:16] <Bonaldo2000> it worked before I simply dont get what has changed!
[10:16] <Overand> Bonaldo2000: synaptic is a GUI app
[10:16] <Overand> you need to use gtksudo or whatever
[10:16] <ruchbah> crowley1027 - you couldn't ask for a cheaper fix...
[10:17] <aLPHa_LeaK> n8
[10:17] <jcole> is there something i can add to "about:config" in firefox/mozilla?
[10:17] <crowley1027> hah
[10:18] <crowley1027> Um, I have an nvidia GEforce 5500 card...will drivers work on linux?
[10:18] <L33TrDaNu> crowley1027: yes
[10:18] <crowley1027> kay
[10:18] <Bonaldo2000> Overand: yes I know, but I run it in a terminal window....and gksudo doesnt work either! I can run it if I use su and root!
[10:18] <P0ldy> jcole, Java applets don't run on javascript, they run on java platform.  Do you have java installed?/
[10:18] <ruchbah> crowley1027 - ive got a 5400
[10:18] <ruchbah> downloaded them..
[10:18] <ruchbah> but havn't tried yet
[10:18] <jcole> P0ldy: the javascript checks the java version
[10:19] <jcole> P0ldy: ^^^
[10:19] <ruchbah> their on the nvidia web site
[10:19] <ruchbah> they have a linux section
[10:19] <P0ldy> jcole, ohh.
[10:19] <andrejkw> hey guys
[10:19] <andrejkw> is there anything better than Gaim?
[10:19] <ruchbah> which looks well maintained / supportive
[10:19] <crowley1027> will a milky jumper work still?  :-D :-D
[10:19] <andrejkw> with a better GUI?
[10:19] <L33TrDaNu> crowley1027: should run great with the 8657 drivers
[10:19] <jcole> P0ldy: var plugin = navigator.mimeTypes["application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.5.0_01"] 
[10:19] <jcole> P0ldy: if ( browserType == "Netscape" && ! plugin ) // Plug-in not installed.
[10:19] <crowley1027> ok
[10:20] <sflash> anyone can help me out with sharing some files using samba?
[10:20] <L33TrDaNu> GeForce 4400 dualhead works great with 8657 drivers. GeForce Riva TNT2 works great with 7676 and 8657 drivers
[10:20] <crowley1027> lol
[10:20] <hedrek> !scribus
[10:20] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hedrek
[10:20] <crowley1027> l33trdanu: thanks, i'll be back in...how long should it take to get the firefox IRC plugin when i'm at the reboot stage right now?
[10:21] <Bonaldo2000> Anyone got some ideas to solve my prob?
[10:21] <rab> what's ubuntu's apache command to enable a site?
[10:21] <P0ldy> jcole, have you tried this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ef347c277a133b64af0600bd1bf24bc64e7038b8
[10:21] <crowley1027> enable:www.site.com
[10:21] <crowley1027> lol idk.
[10:21] <crowley1027> leetr than you
[10:21] <crowley1027> i'll b back in an hour
[10:21] <crowley1027> i think...
[10:21] <crowley1027> maybe.
[10:21] <L33TrDaNu> crowley1027: ttyl
[10:21] <L33TrDaNu> crowley1027: =)
[10:22] <Bonaldo2000> heeelp me pleeease!
[10:22] <Genfoo> .....
[10:22] <Bonaldo2000> as I said when i run "sudo synaptic" I get..."cannot open display"
[10:22] <L33TrDaNu> Bonaldo2000: um...what is your problem?
[10:23] <Bonaldo2000> I can run it if i am root via su
[10:23] <selinium> Bonaldo2000: It sounds like you have removed sudo from you user
[10:23] <selinium> !tell Bonaldo2000 about sudo
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> Bonaldo2000,  use 'gksu' ?
[10:23] <jcole> P0ldy: why would i do that? java is and the plugin is already installed
[10:24] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: try gksudo
[10:24] <Bonaldo2000> but i am a member of the admin group....and it has sudo rights!
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> or was it gksudo - i forget
[10:24] <rab> whats the terminal command to makea link
[10:24] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: thats why you cant use sudo
[10:24] <Bonaldo2000> gksudo doent work either
[10:24] <BAD-IDEA> !tell BAD-IDEA about tomcat
[10:24] <amphi> rab: ln
[10:24] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: enabling su is not recommended on ubuntu and enabling it cause sudo/gksudo to not work
[10:24] <Bonaldo2000> it gives me the dialogbox...but then gives the same error
[10:24] <BAD-IDEA> !tell BAD-IDEA about ApacheTomcat
[10:24] <amphi> rab: ln -s targrt
[10:24] <amphi> oops
[10:24] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: what? ok...how do i disable it?
[10:25] <gnomefreak> !root
[10:25] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:25] <selinium> BAD-IDEA: you might find someone to help in #apache :)
[10:25] <amphi> rab: ln -s <target> <symlink> to make a symbolic link
[10:25] <L33TrDaNu> amphi, ln -s source/path target/path   you mean?
[10:25] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: the command is on there it tells you how
[10:25] <hedrek> !compile
[10:25] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[10:25] <abood> hi all
[10:25] <sflash> i have a question about writes. How can i edit a config file residing in etc folder?
[10:25] <ZNDO> si, eh?
[10:25] <sflash> or rights mean
[10:25] <graft> sflash: sudo gedit <file>
[10:25] <L33TrDaNu> sflash: sudo emacs /etc/myconf.file
[10:25] <jcole> P0ldy: i don't think you understand my problem... firefox/mozilla has an array of mime types and versions that some websites parse through to get info using javascript... i want to modify this array to so the website will work
[10:25] <amphi> L33TrDaNu: yeah, I lurched
[10:26] <ruchbah> sflash - sudo
[10:26] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: sorry, I dont understand? where can I see how?
[10:26] <selinium> sflash: use sudo
[10:26] <gnomefreak> sflash: sudo nano /etc/rest of path
[10:26] <L33TrDaNu> got to go, be back later
[10:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Bonaldo2000 -about root
[10:26] <abood> guys, from where can i get XMMS plugin that let Real Media works on it ??
[10:26] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: ubotu sent you a pm on the link if how to disable it
[10:27] <selinium> abood: what kind of file audio or video?
[10:27] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: yeah I got something...I'll just take a look!
[10:28] <abood> selinium, real player formats .rm, and also avi
[10:28] <selinium> abood: do ytou use mplayer?
[10:28] <hedrek> !gcc
[10:28] <ubotu> I guess gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[10:28] <selinium> I would use mplayer and xmms-xmmplayer
[10:29] <abood> selinium, no dude, i need real player just to work in XMMS
[10:29] <selinium> abood: ^^^
[10:29] <abood> selinium, ?
[10:29] <Genfoo> abood, <selinium> I would use mplayer and xmms-xmmplayer
[10:29] <crowley1027> i'm back
[10:29] <crowley1027> with problems
[10:30] <Genfoo> such as....
[10:30] <sflash> cool, thanks
[10:30] <crowley1027> booted from HD
[10:30] <Arrick> gnomefreak, hows it hanging?
[10:30] <gnomefreak> Arrick: eh
[10:30] <aj_> how come i don't have a /dev/video for my tv card?
[10:30] <abood> Genfoo, is xmms-xmmplayer diffrent from XMMS
[10:30] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: I disabled my root with "sudo passwd -l root"...but it didnt make a difference! Is there something else I should do?
[10:30] <crowley1027> ALERT! /dev/hdb1 does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!
[10:30] <aj_> i loaded the driver
[10:30] <aj_> but nothing is in lspci for it
[10:30] <selinium> abood: I dont know if you can then. XMMS is an audio player. To add video you need to give it a video player it can use. I use xmms with mplayer. You use the XMMS player (not the mplayer one)
[10:30] <Genfoo> abood, its a plugin
[10:30] <src> hi @all
[10:30] <spanglesontoast> hmm how come I cannot compile anything
[10:31] <Arrick> gnomefreak, where can I find out the dependancy packages for proftpd
[10:31] <Genfoo> lots of reasons
[10:31] <crowley1027> l33trdanu
[10:31] <crowley1027> help?
[10:31] <Arrick> !proftpd
[10:31] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Arrick
[10:31] <gnomefreak> Arrick: man dpkg should have a parameter for it
[10:31] <selinium> !tell spanglesontoast about compile
[10:31] <Arrick> ok thanks
[10:31] <abood> Genfoo, what does xmms-xmmplayer plays ?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: hold on 1 sec
[10:31] <src> does someone know why we cant order more than 10 ubuntu cds any more?
[10:31] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: ok...
[10:31] <selinium> abood: what ever mplayer can play.
[10:32] <defcon8> src, people taking the piss?
[10:32] <crowley1027> HELP
[10:32] <crowley1027> lol
[10:32] <FreeRider> hey .... i need some drivers for Lexmark Z600 Series (Z605) Printer please
[10:32] <selinium> defcon8: Probably true, but watch your language please! :)
[10:32] <rab> freerider, have you checked the ubuntuforums ?
[10:32] <src> FreeRider , probably you could code some driver
[10:32] <ramvi> I get "err:module:import_dll Loading library DivxDecoder.dll" when I try to wine WoW. It isn't one of the dlls I'm told by turorials to download and I can't find anything relevant when googeling. What do I do?
[10:32] <FreeRider> CUPS doesnt work well with the damn printer
[10:32] <aj_> anyone here know why i wouldn't have a /dev/video for my tv tuner?
[10:33] <rab> freerider, they normally have tutorials - howto's for specific printers
[10:33] <src> FreeRider, RTFM ?!?
[10:33] <ruchbah> crowley1027  -wasup?
[10:33] <crowley1027> I booted after first installing ubuntu, and it says that /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[10:33] <FreeRider> yea thx anyway
[10:33] <abood> selinium, i dont know i feel mplayer so complicated ?!?!
[10:33] <src> lol
[10:33] <njan> src, I'd guess that the fact that ubuntu has taken off and that CDs cost money have something to do with it
[10:33] <vars> hey i have a sid repo can ii use it
[10:33] <ruchbah> crowley1027- so your on windoze again??
[10:33] <src> njan , could be^^
[10:33] <Arrick> anyone know if there is a way to point one ftp site to another?
[10:33] <crowley1027> i'm on a totally different hard drive
[10:33] <crowley1027> one hard drive in the cmputer now
[10:33] <crowley1027> dedicated to linux
[10:34] <Arrick> say a folder that looks like its on the same site?
[10:34] <njan> src, free CDs were a brilliant marketing move, but ubuntu doesn't much need marketing any more, it just needs to keep rolling.
[10:34] <ruchbah> did you put that jumper on cs? master?
[10:34] <jayrod06> hey guys i was aaway for a while but im back with a question
[10:34] <crowley1027> cs
[10:34] <crowley1027> its reading the HD
[10:34] <ruchbah> ok
[10:34] <crowley1027> i have this now
[10:34] <jayrod06> does anyone know how to use apple's quicktime aac encoder with ubuntu?
[10:34] <ruchbah> so hdb1 would be your second drive?
[10:34] <crowley1027> turned off*
[10:35] <crowley1027> this          /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control off
[10:35] <stjepan> http://www.codeplex.com/ - how funny :)) what do you think?
[10:35] <crowley1027> turned off*
[10:35] <src> njan, i know youre right, but i was waiting for 6.06 for ordering 100cds and then i wanted to give it to lots of people so it would get a bit more known
[10:35] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: type gksudo "gedit /etc/shadow"
[10:35] <random-guy> hello
[10:35] <aj_> anyone here know much about video 4 linux?
[10:35] <crowley1027> there's a # in the dos-looking thing
[10:35] <crowley1027> where i can type stuff:-P
[10:35] <crowley1027> :-P
[10:35] <crowley1027> :)
[10:35] <njan> src, yeah. That would make a lot of sense for 6.06 as well, since it's the long term support version.
[10:36] <random-guy> yesterday i was trying to update my repositories for ubuntu but just ended up breaking my system
[10:36] <njan> src, personally I might've done the same thing, but I would've waited until 6.06 had shipped
[10:36] <zlack> anyone know why my video & audio isn't running synced with mplayer?
[10:36] <njan> src, I know I have a few warty/hoary CDs left over, but I ordered like 50 of each
[10:36] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: I get the error...cannot open display if  use that command!
[10:36] <random-guy> see i want to apt-get install  some apps but none are listed
[10:36] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: oh damn thats right
[10:36] <njan> src, I could easily get rid of 100 6.06 CDs to people who were new converts.
[10:36] <ruchbah> ok, so where are you at? you're booted into linux, but you need to access your second drive?
[10:36] <src> njan, i ordered just some cds of the 5.10, so i wanted to be a bit extreme now
[10:36] <njan> heh
[10:37] <azurehuesofblue> I tried planeshift and didn't like it that much, is there any place to find games for linux?
[10:37] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: type gksu "gedit /etc/shadow"
[10:37] <src> and now i cant any more -.-
[10:37] <crowley1027> ruchbah...
[10:37] <random-guy> can i have some help?
[10:37] <crowley1027> can i pm you?
[10:37] <jayrod06> does no one worry about ubuntu's funding with all thse free cd's
[10:37] <jayrod06> jeez
[10:37] <ruchbah> scrowley1027 - ure
[10:37] <selinium> random-guy: I can give you a command to put your peos back if you want
[10:37] <src> njan, i think ill buy a lot of CD-Rs and then do a bit burning xD
[10:37] <gnomefreak> jayrod06: no and please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:37] <crowley1027> how did that S move over like...20 characters?
[10:37] <random-guy> that would help thanks
[10:37] <crowley1027> Lmao
[10:38] <amphi> crowley1027: "dos-looking thing" ? dear me... ;)
[10:38] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: but i just disabled my root account...as it said in that guide!
[10:38] <MENDIGO> Please i am trying to install a software that requires gstreamer-0.10  but on Synaptic i can only found gstreamer-0.8, can anyone help me???
[10:38] <njan> src, I'd e-mail someone at canonical and see if you can't get more shipped.
[10:38] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: it will open
[10:38] <MENDIGO> *find
[10:38] <gnomefreak> njan: they will be opening up for more soon
[10:38] <jayrod06> well how bout answering my first question before telling me to go to off-topic after making a mental note
[10:39] <bur[n] er> MENDIGO: 0.8 isn't in breezy... it is in dapper
[10:39] <njan> gnomefreak, ah, they're tiering the number people can order?
[10:39] <gnomefreak> njan: they havent added it yet
[10:39] <crowley1027> alert!  /dev/hdb1 does not exist.  Dropping to a shell...help someone
[10:39] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: no it sais i have the wrong passwd now!
[10:39] <selinium> random-guy: are you using breezy?
[10:39] <njan> gnomefreak, shipit lets me order 6.06 CDs
[10:39] <njan> gnomefreak, I can just only order 10
[10:39] <src> njan, hell yeah, a friend told me to mail them, but i didnt want to, because i dont think they will give me 100cds for like giving i to friendsin the school
[10:39] <gnomefreak> njan: not more than 10
[10:39] <delta> Hi. I'm planning to buy a labtop. I'll be glad to get some feedback from you guys :)
[10:39] <MENDIGO> bur[n] er, but i want the 0.10
[10:39] <random-guy> ya but i just ran an update so i may be in dapper now
[10:40] <njan> gnomefreak, right.. so they are tiering 6.06 submissions and they'll allow >10 in a while?
[10:40] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: hold on a sec
[10:40] <namit> hey anyone got xgl working ?
[10:40] <delta> http://vaio.sony-europe.com/view/View.action?section=Products_ITE&productcategory=%2FComputing%2FVAIO+Notebooks%2FVN+FE+Series&productmodel=%2FComputing%2FVAIO+Notebooks%2FVN+FE+Series%2FVGN-FE21S&productsku=VGNFE21S.FR5&site=ite_fr_FR&page=ProductTechnicalFeatures
[10:40] <gnomefreak> njan: by the release it will be open for more
[10:40] <bur[n] er> MENDIGO: so you have three options, compile it yourself for breezy, find someone else who's packaged it for breezy, or upgrade to dapper
[10:40] <Subhuman> namit, yes
[10:40] <namit> its so nice can not get the faid in and out to work
[10:40] <AlwaysIcey> Hi everyone.
[10:40] <src> gnomefreak kewl
[10:40] <njan> gnomefreak, cool. What's the reason for the tiering, to get CDs out to a larger number of people initially?
[10:40] <hyphenated> delta: I'd cut off my left hand before buying a vaio ;-)
[10:40] <crowley1027> jeez...nobody seems to want to help me :(
[10:40] <namit> Subhuman: did you get all shortucts to work?
[10:40] <delta> hyphenated, really? :-(
[10:40] <AlwaysIcey> What's wrong Crowley?
[10:40] <Subhuman> umm, as in on the desktop?
[10:40] <bur[n] er> crowley1027: did yoiu add a new drive?
[10:40] <crowley1027> I installed ubuntu
[10:41] <src> crowley1027 , what kinda help do you need?
[10:41] <hyphenated> delta: but you should probably ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:41] <crowley1027> did reboot
[10:41] <src> and?
[10:41] <kuja> Are Ubuntu CD images sensitive when burnt at a fast speed?
[10:41] <ruchbah>  crowley1027 - sorry - I can't pm cause I'm not registered
[10:41] <MENDIGO> bur[n] er, how I update to dapper?
[10:41] <selinium> random-guy: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list into pastebin  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:41] <gnomefreak> njan: as far as i know they just havent added it to site yet maybe they dont know how many people will be making them
[10:41] <crowley1027> installed ubuntu, did reboot, and it says that
[10:41] <delta> hyphenated, let let me try :)
[10:41] <kuja> I was told it's best to burn Ubuntu images at a low speed.
[10:41] <crowley1027> alert!  /dev/hdb1 does not exist.  Dropping to a shell...help someone
[10:41] <gnomefreak> kuja: yes
[10:41] <Piolon> Alguien que se ofrezca a darme ayuda en espaol?
[10:41] <Arrick> anyone, if I set a userup, how can I make it to where that user cant walk up the tree, only browse downward without sudo privilages?
[10:41] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: I just opened the file with nano!
[10:41] <kuja> gnomefreak: My friend burnt at 2x and failures occurred everywhere :(
[10:41] <Subhuman> kuja, it's only because at faster speeds there are more likely to be errors.
[10:41] <illnor> I tried updating the system and firefox disappeared on me.. ubuntu breezy
[10:41] <src> crowley1027 , try fsck /dev/hdb
[10:41] <crowley1027> i'm reinstalling now
[10:41] <crowley1027> lol
 alert!  /dev/hdb1 does not exist.  Dropping to a shell...help someone  <-- i got the same problem
[10:41] <sflash> I have a folder using samba to share. Unfortunately my windows system sees it but it asks for username and password, and nothing works. any ideas on making it available to everyone?
[10:41] <illnor> tried sudo apt-get install firefox and had errors
[10:41] <selinium> !tell MENDIGO about upgrade
[10:41] <namit> Subhuman: did you get all keyboard shortucts to work?
[10:41] <njan> kuja, probably either a bad CD or a bad CD Drive
[10:41] <crowley1027> scanning CD ROM
[10:42] <src> lol
[10:42] <crowley1027> i'm on a laptop now,
[10:42] <crowley1027> with my desktop in front of me.
[10:42] <kuja> Mine was burnt at around 2x as well, but only a couple failures, nothing serious; I still got to setup an account and setup GRUB, so I was able to safely boot and fix things.
[10:42] <crowley1027> loading additional components
[10:42] <src> crowley1027 , i do that he same way you do
[10:42] <Subhuman> namit, yeah worked 100%
[10:42] <src> ^^
[10:42] <kuja> Subhuman: What about Dapper CDs?
[10:42] <MorbidHunger> how do you open a .jar?
[10:42] <HOWZEE> am using an acer laptop ... cant get sound working on my laptop :(
[10:42] <crowley1027> lol
[10:42] <crowley1027> ^_^
[10:42] <spanglesontoast> I still can't use the make command odd
[10:42] <HOWZEE> anyone experience the same prob?
[10:42] <Subhuman> kuja, it applies to any CD images
[10:42] <namit> Subhuman: how you get exposay to work
[10:42] <crowley1027> detecting all hardware now.....
[10:42] <src> HOWZEE , try compiling alsa yourself
[10:42] <random-guy> pasted by randomguy
[10:42] <amphi> MorbidHunger: IIRC it's just an uncompressed zip archive, so unzip should do it
[10:42] <TehMessiah> hey .. how to open graphic mode in 5.10 version .. just after instal its look like dos :P
[10:42] <crowley1027> ok
[10:42] <Subhuman> namit, F12
[10:42] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:42] <crowley1027> for partition disks
[10:43] <random-guy> pasted by random guy
[10:43] <crowley1027> shouldi erase entire disk?
[10:43] <namit> a sweet and faid in and faid out
[10:43] <selinium> random-guy: ok, looking....
[10:43] <Arrick> crowley1027, did you move the HD after you installed?
[10:43] <namit> Subhuman: a sweet and faid in and faid out
[10:43] <illnor> can someone at least tell me the command line to run easy ubuntu.. firefox went away on me so i can't look it up
[10:43] <crocos> hi all
[10:43] <crowley1027> no
[10:43] <MorbidHunger> howzee i got the same prob
[10:43] <crowley1027> i'm at the partitioning
[10:43] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: 5.10
[10:43] <src> HOWZEE , i got acer aspire 1604wlmi and it worked for me great :D
[10:43] <crowley1027> i have a whole HD dedicated to it
[10:43] <AlwaysIcey> I can't get it to work on my desktop either HDWZEE, but it's an ancient desktop.
[10:43] <crowley1027> so what should i pick?
[10:43] <TehMessiah> hey .. how to open graphic mode in 5.10 version .. just after instal its look like dos :P
[10:43] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: can you sign in at all as su or sudo?
[10:43] <ubuntu> hola
[10:44] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: if there was something i should edit in that file  can do it now...nano can open it
[10:44] <AlwaysIcey> hola ubuntu
[10:44] <Arrick> you might try the recovery console during boot to fix grub crowley1027
[10:44] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: do you remember the password you set up during install?
[10:44] <ubuntu> hola que tal
[10:44] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: i can use sudo for somethings...others give me that display cannot open...
[10:44] <crowley1027> what partition setting should i choose??
[10:44] <crocos> anyone knows if exist driver for linux of this video board Radeon powercolor X1300 ?
[10:44] <AlwaysIcey> bien, y tu?  Hablas ingles?
[10:44] <Arrick> ubuntu-es for espanol
[10:44] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: yes my userpw?
[10:44] <ubuntu> no
[10:44] <Arrick> !es
[10:44] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:44] <ubuntu> espaol
[10:44] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: Bonaldo2000 on the first line of that file do you see roo:?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> root:
[10:44] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: yes...
[10:44] <exarkun> What should I do about this?  dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.18_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/i18n/locales/en_AU', which is also in package language-pack-en-base
[10:44] <src> ubuntu pourqi ?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: whats after the root:
[10:45] <Abou> how can I choose the font in firefox?
[10:45] <Arrick> anyone, if I set a userup, how can I make it to where that user cant walk up the tree, only browse downward without sudo privilages?
[10:45] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: !$1$b2KaoFOl$4/4OaiJcFIhXO/bI7YVM..:13289:0:99999:7:::
[10:45] <ubuntu> de donde eres
[10:45] <gnomefreak> Abou: in the prefferences
[10:45] <crowley1027> should i Erase entire disk: IDE1 master (hda) - blablbla
[10:45] <crowley1027> or should i Erase Entire disk and use LVM
[10:45] <AlwaysIcey> ubuntu.  Necessita va al salon ubuntu-es.
[10:45] <selinium> random-guy: copy and paste the following into a terminal >>  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup && sudo wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6047 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:45] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: what is right next to root: no the rest of the stuff
[10:45] <Arrick> ubuntu you have been told that ubuntu-es is where to get help in espanol
[10:45] <VR_> crowley1027: LVM is good if you're going to be adding more hard drives in the future
[10:45] <selinium> random-guy: all one line. It will refresh your repos.
[10:45] <Abou> gnomefreak: is it in edit>preferences? coz I couldn't find it there
[10:46] <crowley1027> i'm just gonna be swapping hard drives
[10:46] <selinium> random-guy: All in one go...
[10:46] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: just a '!'
[10:46] <crowley1027> linux will be the only OS on here
[10:46] <random-guy> thanks, it looks like it went ok
[10:46] <random-guy> will try an app
[10:46] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: you want it to look like this root:*:numbers/letters
[10:46] <crowley1027> and XP the only OS on the other HD
[10:46] <VR_> crowley1027: swapping? as in, you'll remove the HD that has the ubuntu installation?
[10:46] <Arrick> crowley1027, install xp first
[10:46] <gnomefreak> Abou: last i checked yes but give me a sec i will look again
[10:46] <namit> anyone having problems with amsn i had it installed and then installed xgl and now it tries to start up but nothing. No error at all
[10:46] <Arrick> if you want dual boot
[10:46] <Arrick> !dualboot
[10:46] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[10:46] <selinium> random-guy: do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get updrade -y
[10:46] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: just change the one charicter
[10:47] <crowley1027> The partition tables of the following devices are changed:  IDE1 master (hda)
[10:47] <ubuntu> NADIE HABLA ESPAOL
[10:47] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: so I should change the ! to a * ?
[10:47] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: and nothing else?
[10:47] <itsmeeh> must go today 2 gateway cx200x notebooks brand new in box,  price 600 each message me on aim at ogd443 or msn at albertaguy1981@hotmail.com if interested.
[10:47] <selinium> random-guy: upgrade... not updrade... Spolling Mistokes
[10:47] <crowley1027> The following partitions are going to be formatted: partition 1 of IDE1 as ext3
[10:47] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: yes thats it
[10:47] <crowley1027> Partition 5 of IDE1 master as swap
[10:47] <crowley1027> sound Okay:>
[10:47] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: ok I'll try...what does it do?
[10:47] <ruchbah>  crowley1027 - it sounds ok but....
[10:47] <gnomefreak> Abou: open prefferences than go to the content tab look at bottom
[10:47] <random-guy> i figured that out but apt-get install skype doesnt work still
[10:47] <crowley1027> but...
[10:48] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: one sec
[10:48] <ruchbah> why all this hd switching?
[10:48] <random-guy> nor gizmo or anything like that
[10:48] <crowley1027> becase i can lol
[10:48] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: ok I changed it...it apparently didnt do anything...I still get the error...
[10:48] <bimberi> !skype
[10:48] <ubotu> skype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[10:48] <random-guy> i am pushing tab to autocomplete and i just get a buzz
[10:48] <sflash> anyone know an easy way or how to install xfce? im a newb
[10:48] <selinium> random-guy: skype isn;t in the repos it is in seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:48] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: that should be it
[10:48] <jayrod06> !rm
[10:48] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jayrod06
[10:48] <MorbidHunger> ubuntu hates me
[10:48] <selinium> bimberi: cheers! Much quicker!
[10:48] <bimberi> !tell sflash about xubuntu
[10:48] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: you will get an error using gksudo but should still open
[10:48] <bimberi> selinium: np :)
[10:48] <Arrick> bimberi, heooolllllloooooooo
[10:49] <jayrod06> !gtkpod
[10:49] <ubotu> jayrod06: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:49] <random-guy> so this is for ubuntu system software not 3rd party software
[10:49] <ruchbah> crowley1027 - can't you do this with both hds in there to start?
[10:49] <bimberi> hey Arrick
[10:49] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: it s awarning not an error
[10:49] <AlwaysIcey> So what's the latest version of KDE that's available for ubuntu?  As in prepackaged installs, I mean.
[10:49] <crowley1027> i kind of...ripped out the slave portion of the IDE cable.
[10:49] <crowley1027> :)
[10:49] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: hm I still just get the same error..."cannot open display"!
[10:49] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: should I restart something?
[10:49] <amphi> MorbidHunger: install debian then ;)
[10:49] <ruchbah> crowley1027 ahhhhhh
[10:49] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: what are you opening?
[10:49] <crowley1027> lol
[10:49] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: synaptic
[10:49] <MorbidHunger> thats like... work...
[10:49] <random-guy> should i add that link to my /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:49] <MorbidHunger> and id have to download that
[10:49] <bimberi> AlwaysIcey: 3.5.2
[10:50] <Arrick> bimberi, I am trying to setup a user with ftp privilages only from /home/arrick/ftp that is not allowed to go upwards in the tree and also not allowed to use sudo, can yo uhelp me out?
[10:50] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: gksudo synaptic  paste the output of that to pastebin please
[10:50] <ruchbah> crowley1027 - so what you want to wind up with is a dual boot
[10:50] <AlwaysIcey> Thanks.
[10:50] <crowley1027> nah
[10:50] <ruchbah> crowley1027 after you get a new cable?
[10:50] <MorbidHunger> dual boots are easy
[10:50] <crowley1027> i've had them
[10:50] <crowley1027> i just want free space on the HDs
[10:50] <dust> my ipod isn't working properly in banshee or rythmbox. i get a warning saying "could not open device for writing"
[10:50] <crowley1027> i'll get another IDE soon
[10:50] <crowley1027> probly take it outta the comp upstairs
[10:50] <selinium> random-guy: you can put one of Seveas' repo mirrors into your list and do it that way or jusrt download straight from a mirror and do a  sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb
[10:50] <MorbidHunger> i got a box of IDE cables
[10:51] <random-guy> ok thanks
[10:51] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14407
[10:51] <dust> has anyone had a similar problem?
[10:51] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: also open that file back up and look to make sure it saved it
[10:51] <crowley1027> wanna send one to me?
[10:51] <bimberi> Arrick: nope, idk sorry - i believe there are ways though
[10:51] <selinium> random-guy: Good luck, I've got to dash!
[10:51] <MorbidHunger> dust: only with windows
[10:51] <random-guy> thanks
[10:51] <random-guy> bye
[10:51] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: it did..it was saved...
[10:51] <rab> is gnome.org down?
[10:51] <Subhuman> dust, there is an ipod tranfer program
[10:51] <Arrick> yeah if only IdleOne were here bimberi he helped me set up the last server for it
[10:51] <Subhuman> duck, gtkpod
[10:52] <dust> banshee is suposed to have all the necessary bits
[10:52] <Subhuman> dust, gtkpod
[10:52] <gnomefreak> is that the full warning Bonaldo2000
[10:52] <Subhuman> worth trying something else though?
[10:52] <dust> and totem can play the songs off it if i force it too.
[10:52] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: yes it is
[10:52] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: and the prog doesnt start
[10:52] <crowley1027> gnome.org is not down
[10:52] <fucty> i cant boot the new kernel
[10:52] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: try a reboot see if that helps
[10:52] <dust> gtkpod is more reliable than banshee?
[10:52] <fucty> it hangs at "mounting root file system"
[10:53] <AlwaysIcey> rab, it worked for me just now.
[10:53] <fucty> i think its something depending on scsi
[10:53] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: ok i'll try...i am back just as soon as i've done that! thx for the help so far!
[10:53] <fucty> can som1 help me with that?
[10:53] <rab> AlwaysIcey, its not loading for me
[10:53] <AlwaysIcey> What error message are you getting rab?
[10:53] <amphi> fucty: what kernel, and what error?
[10:53] <dust> subhuman: i'll give it a try. thanx.
[10:53] <tdn> Bonaldo2000: can you give me the line from this command: "grep -v '^#' /etc/sudoers |head -n 1" (without the double quotes and executed as root)?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> tdn: hes gone he will be back
[10:54] <rab> AlwaysIcey, its not loading
[10:54] <rab> timeout or something
[10:54] <fucty> kernel 2.6.15-23
[10:54] <tdn> gnomefreak: yeah. I saw that. My net is just lagging very much :(
[10:54] <fucty> 2.6.15-22 and 21 also wont go
[10:54] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhh i think i know
[10:54] <Arrick> anyone, I am trying to setup a user with ftp privilages only from /home/arrick/ftp that is not allowed to go upwards in the tree and also not allowed to use sudo, can you help me out?
[10:54] <AlwaysIcey> Try this link, and tell me what you get Rab:  http://209.132.176.176
[10:54] <crowley1027> http://home.comcast.net/~amsilveira/ubuntu7_5-6-05.jpg
[10:54] <gnomefreak> fucty: #ubuntu+1 please
[10:54] <fucty> have to use 2.6.15-20
[10:55] <crowley1027> http://home.comcast.net/~amsilveira/ubuntu7_5-6-05.jpg whats that thing to the right, that says ubuntu on it?
[10:55] <namit> anyone having problems with amsn i had it installed and then installed xgl and now it tries to start up but nothing. No error at all
[10:55] <gnomefreak> tdn: gksudo needs " sometimes ;)
[10:55] <rab> AlwaysIcey, a picture
[10:55] <MorbidHunger> stupid compaq computer...
[10:55] <bimberi> Arrick: looks like vsftpd can do it, as discussed here - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=118202
[10:55] <AlwaysIcey> Hmmm.
[10:55] <Subhuman> namit, XGL doesnt seem to like java or certain apps.
[10:55] <gnomefreak> should still open empty file
[10:55] <rab> you have comcast?
[10:55] <fucty> thanks gnomefreak
[10:55] <AlwaysIcey> Nope.
[10:55] <AlwaysIcey> I've got Qwest.
[10:55] <Subhuman> namit, run "metacity --replace" then try opening amsn then run "compiz --replace gconf"
[10:55] <rab> http://home.comcast.net/~amsilveira/ubuntu7_5-6-05.jpg
[10:55] <tdn> gnomefreak: yes? But I was not asking him to use gksudo in this command.
[10:56] <namit> subhumam: any other windows messanger
[10:56] <gnomefreak> fucty: yw
[10:56] <crowley1027> that was me
[10:56] <AlwaysIcey> Are you able to go to other sites at all?
[10:56] <crowley1027> i don't ave it
[10:56] <rab> ohwait
[10:56] <rab> wrong site
[10:56] <crowley1027> i'm tryin to figure out what the thing is to the right of the picture
[10:56] <gnomefreak> tdn: i know
[10:56] <rab> AlwaysIcey, yeah it didntload either
[10:56] <gnomefreak> that was for me not for you lol
[10:56] <tdn> gnomefreak: ok :)
[10:56] <AlwaysIcey> Are you able to go to http://www.google.com Rab?
[10:56] <pinky> I cannot seem to mount an ISO image I have... "dmesg | tail" returns "Unable to identify CD-ROM format."   It's the third disc in a game (Mafia) and the other two mounted fine.
[10:57] <Bonaldo2000> gnomefreak: it didnt help unfortunetly!
[10:57] <rab> uhm yes
[10:57] <pinky> It's worth mentioning that the other two ISO images are under 700MB but this one is 770MB
[10:57] <tdn> Bonaldo2000: can you give me the line from this command: "grep -v '^#' /etc/sudoers |head -n 1" (without the double quotes and executed as root)?
[10:57] <pinky> Does that have anything to do with it?  Any suggestions?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> Bonaldo2000: tdn has something for you i think
[10:57] <Bonaldo2000> tdn: I just disabled my root account!
[10:57] <tdn> Bonaldo2000: the command should only produce one line, so just paste it here or in a privmsg.
[10:57] <AlwaysIcey> That's odd.  gnome is loading perfectly for me, using both the ip or the name.
[10:57] <tdn> Bonaldo2000: you WHAT?!
[10:58] <tdn> Bonaldo2000: shift to single user mode and reenable it!
[10:58] <Bonaldo2000> tdn: it was an advice given to me in here...
[10:58] <tdn> Bonaldo2000: how did you "disable" it anyway?
[10:58] <rab> AlwaysIcey, anyways does gnome.org have the new tango icons set, the silver folders ect,
[10:58] <pinky> Perhaps an application that scans ISO files to see if there's something wrong with the iso9660 filesystem?
[10:58] <AlwaysIcey> I'll have to look.  here's another link from there. http://209.132.176.176/start/2.14/
[10:58] <Bonaldo2000> tdn: wasnt disabled
[10:58] <Arrick> pinky, try md5sum
[10:58] <Bonaldo2000> tdn: i can do it now I think...to sec
[10:58] <dust> subhuman: i ran gtkpod it gave me this: "could not open "itunesDB.ext for reading
[10:59] <rab> AlwaysIcey, still no
[10:59] <tdn> Bonaldo2000: what do you mean by "disabling your root account"?
[10:59] <jayrod06> dust that always happens to me but it never kept it from reading my ipod
[10:59] <pinky> Arrick: What would I compare the hash to??
[10:59] <Bonaldo2000> tdn: nothing...seems i just removed the passwd
[11:00] <Arrick> get the original from the place you got the iso from
[11:00] <disinterseted_pe> why do i get (synaptic:6168) : gtk- critical for installing easyububtu?
[11:00] <Bonaldo2000> tdn: but i restored it now
[11:00] <tdn> Bonaldo2000: you can still login as root in single user mode.
[11:00] <pinky> Erm, you mean from the data DVD I burned?
[11:00] <Arrick> yeah
[11:00] <namit> sorry can you give me thatcommand again
[11:00] <Bonaldo2000> tdn: I am root now...just used the su command
[11:00] <AlwaysIcey> I don't see anything Rab, but someone else may be able to answer your question.  I'm not that familiar with anything that gnome has out now.
[11:00] <Bonaldo2000> tdn: forget what i said about disabling root!
[11:01] <rab> oh well thanks anyways
[11:01] <Bonaldo2000> tdn: and pls look at private msg!
[11:01] <pinky> Arrick: It wouldn't mount FROM the DVD either... I tried copying it to the hard drive and mounting the ISO from there, but that didn't work either
[11:01] <tdn> Bonaldo2000: great.
[11:01] <tdn> Bonaldo2000: I just read it. And I answered.
[11:01] <jayrod06> does anyone use aac in here?
[11:01] <jayrod06> or mp4
[11:01] <Arrick> pinky, you might have a bad iso
[11:01] <amphi> pinky: what does file say the image file is?
[11:01] <pinky> mount -o loop -t iso9660 Mafia3.iso /mnt/iso/
[11:01] <pinky> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop1,
[11:02] <pinky>        missing codepage or other error
[11:02] <dust> how does one check that it is safe to remove usb devices?
[11:02] <Arrick> tryout isocommander and see if it will unpack the iso
[11:02] <cr1mson> How do I install RPM's with Ubuntu?
[11:02] <graft> convert them to debs and use dpkg
[11:02] <amphi> pinky: sounds corrupt - if file doesn't say 'ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data', that's probably it
[11:02] <namit> 
[11:02] <jayrod06> to eject the ipod safely go to computer right click on ipod and click eject
[11:02] <Subhuman> !alien
[11:02] <ubotu> somebody said alien was a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[11:02] <Manderson> exit
[11:03] <pinky> eep
[11:03] <cr1mson> Thanks.
[11:03] <pinky> isoinfo -i Mafia\ -\ Disc\ 3.iso
[11:03] <pinky> CD-ROM is NOT in ISO 9660 format
[11:03] <graft> cr1mson: you can convert 'em with alien
[11:03] <graft> err... right
[11:03] <pinky> Umm, so what do I do here?  Is this just a *bad* image file?
[11:03] <graft> what ubotu just said...
[11:03] <Subhuman> graft, :P
[11:03] <amphi> pinky: looks like - what does file say about it? just 'data'? ;)
[11:03] <AlwaysIcey> What other things does ubotu say? lol
[11:04] <pinky> amphi: yes
[11:04] <stjepan> I want to set some hot corners for some actions, do you know any apps for that?
[11:04] <amphi> pinky: not a good sign
[11:04] <pinky> Ugh, I made this image with Alcohol 120% I'm pretty sure
[11:04] <admiral_proFTW> stjepan: looked like something completly different
[11:04] <pinky> I'm almost certain it worked under Windows...
[11:04] <cr1mson> I think this is the most useful and helpful channel on the net. :)
[11:04] <dust> jayrod06: when i do that i get: unable to eject, invalid arguement
[11:04] <stjepan> admiral_proFTW, what?
[11:05] <dust> jayrod06: and it said unmount not eject, if that matters.
[11:05] <stjepan> admiral_proFTW, example: I want to start firefox when I move cursor to the right top corner on the screen
[11:05] <ompaul> crowley1027, 1this is a g rated channel that is not on - is that okay with you?
[11:05] <admiral_proFTW> stjepan: your line looked like "i want to go to some hot corners for action" at first glance
[11:05] <pinky> But it's obviously not a valid ISO9660 filesystem... so how do I tell what it is?  I mean I'm fairly certain it *is* a working image file.
[11:05] <graft> .iso ought to just say 'data', shouldn't it?
[11:05] <amphi> pinky: 'almost certain' huh? ;)
[11:05] <crowley1027> yes, sorry :(
[11:05] <pinky> It's 770MB btw, whereas the first two discs of the game are under 700MB
[11:06] <pinky> amphi: Hehe, yeah I should check first, but I really don't want to boot up into Windows
[11:06] <admiral_proFTW> stejapan: just move it there, no buttons?
[11:06] <gnomefreak> graft: iso isnt data it an image
[11:06] <amphi> pinky: file is pretty good at identifying things; if it says 'data' it's nothing overly standard or well-known
[11:06] <graft> gnomefreak: yeah, but it's an exact disk image, which could be anything...
[11:06] <MorbidHunger> im trying to update my video driver but it keeps saying i have to be superuser
[11:06] <jayrod06> dust the ipod should be ejected not unmounted, if it wants to unmount it then ubuntu is treating it as a data volume like a regular harddrive instead of a media device, which it should be for music to be played
[11:06] <amphi> MorbidHunger: use your magic sudo powers
[11:07] <pinky> There needs to be made an Alcohol 120%-like program for Linux
[11:07] <Ademan> is there a way to change what kernel you're using without going into the grub menu? (like preferably with a GUI within ubuntu)
[11:07] <MorbidHunger> how do i do that?
[11:07] <crowley1027> yay, ubuntu starting up for the first time
[11:07] <AlwaysIcey> pinky what version of windows are you burning it on?
[11:07] <amphi> MorbidHunger: prepend sudo to your command line
[11:07] <MorbidHunger> ???
[11:07] <jayrod06> you arent just using it for files instead of music?
[11:07] <Ademan> sudo <whatever>
[11:07] <pinky> Umm, well I made the image on Windows 2000 Pro with alcohol 120% 1.9.5.x I think
[11:07] <MorbidHunger> oh
[11:08] <dust> jayrod06: it is used as both a data device and music device, does ubuntu not recognize this
[11:08] <Ademan> sudo makes you act as though you are root (super user)
[11:08] <MorbidHunger> keeps asking for password
[11:08] <crowley1027> Starting hotplug subsystem is taking a long time
[11:08] <amphi> MorbidHunger: that's your password
[11:08] <Ademan> enter the password you gave to the FIRST account you created with ubuntu
[11:08] <AlwaysIcey> On the off-chance that Alcohol corrupted it somehow, you can get the RKTools for Windows Server 2003.  They have a program called CDBURN which does the same thing as alcohol.
[11:08] <Ademan> you probably set it up during the installation of ubuntu
[11:08] <dbcalo> how do i delete from the command line?
[11:08] <amphi> dbcalo: rm
[11:09] <sflash> if i want to install something like a2ps is there a command line install thing?
[11:09] <jayrod06> dust unplug ipod, replug and wait, the ipod should show up on the desktop
[11:09] <dust> jayrod06: do i have to choose one or the other, because the beauty of it is that it does both
[11:09] <pinky> AlwaysIcey: Umm, RKTools is *inly* for Server 2k3?  How can that be?
[11:09] <hedrek> !fonts
[11:09] <ubotu> it has been said that fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[11:09] <amphi> sflash: sudo apt-get install a2ps ;)
[11:09] <MorbidHunger> so i type in  sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.24.8-x86.run??
[11:09] <AlwaysIcey> lol It works on 2000/XP/Vista
[11:09] <crowley1027> !fonts
[11:09] <jayrod06> check the ipod permissions, make sure read write and execute are checked
[11:09] <MorbidHunger> eww vista
[11:09] <Ademan> really
[11:09] <Ademan> i actually switched to linux BECAUSE of vista
[11:10] <pinky> Ademan: Good plan!
[11:10] <pinky> I know a lot of people taking the same path.
[11:10] <amphi> Ademan: but vista doesn't exist - you were frightened by vapourware? ;)
[11:10] <AlwaysIcey> Interesting.. I'm actually chatting in mIRC on Vista
[11:10] <crowley1027> someone help
[11:10] <MorbidHunger> thanx a lot
[11:10] <Ademan> the only thing i'm gonna miss is visual studio
[11:10] <Toothpick> Hello, there was a wallpaper I saw with a livecd of ubuntu or a derivative that had a school chalkboard as its wallpaper...googling hasn't found that image for me...yet...can anyone speed up my search with a link?
[11:10] <pinky> Ademan: ew
[11:10] <crowley1027> I'm doing the first boot of ubuntu, and it seems stuck on Starting hotplug subsystem
[11:10] <jayrod06> you;re on vista alwaysicey?
[11:10] <pinky> Ademan: vi
[11:10] <amphi> AlwaysIcey: no reason to suppose the release, if it happens, will be similar
[11:10] <pinky> =P
[11:10] <AlwaysIcey> Yep.
[11:10] <Ademan> lol pinky
[11:11] <ompaul> !tell crowley1027 about PaulsKludge
[11:11] <jayrod06> how did you get a windows labs key
[11:11] <ompaul> !tell crowley1027 about bootoptions
[11:11] <AlwaysIcey> I'm a tech beta tester.
[11:11] <ompaul> crowley1027, read those messages
[11:11] <ompaul> AlwaysIcey, your offtopic
[11:11] <AlwaysIcey> I've been testing their MSN stuff for about 3 years now.
[11:11] <ompaul> :)
[11:11] <dust> jayrod06: yeah the icon does reappear, but i am uncertain if it was safe to remove it
[11:11] <jayrod06> was that random or did you get micro$oft 400 bucks or summat
[11:11] <AlwaysIcey> LOL Sorry.  The topic strayed ;)
[11:11] <crowley1027> !tell crowley1027 about PaulsKludge
[11:11] <Ademan> do yo uget any money for beta testing their CRAP > lol
[11:12] <crowley1027> whats pauls kludge?
[11:12] <jayrod06> dust right click it and click properties than permissions tab
[11:12] <AlwaysIcey> Only once Ademan.  Usually it's just t-shirts and stuff like that.
[11:12] <Ademan> geeze... if i'm gonna attack microsoft I might wanna try spelling things right lol
[11:12] <jayrod06> make sure all 3 are checked at the user level
[11:12] <ompaul> crowley1027, read the web pages that ubotu pointed you to
[11:12] <pinky> OKay, okay, well I'm having this other problem with media I burned under Windows...
[11:12] <crowley1027> send again
[11:12] <crowley1027> and i'm frozen...lock button lights won't turn on
[11:12] <pinky> So any data DVD that I burned with Nero 6 under Windows that contains a file that's OVER 2GB won't mount in Linux
[11:12] <ompaul> crowley1027, read the tab that ubotu sent you
[11:12] <crowley1027> !tell crowley1027 about bootoptions
[11:12] <dbcalo> when i installed the nvidia drivers on fedora a control panel for them was present. does ubuntu have one?
[11:12] <dust> jayrod06: okay i'm at permissions.
[11:13] <jayrod06> whats checked
[11:13] <ompaul> crowley1027, no you do this /msg ubotu bootoptions
[11:13] <bimberi> Toothpick: edubuntu dapper uses a chalkboard wallpaper - http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/dapper_art/chalkboard.png
[11:13] <dust> owner read write execute
[11:13] <Ademan> so anyways, DOES ubuntu have a GUI to select what kernel you'll use on the next boot? or do i need to just edit grub's config or just go to the grub menu?
[11:13] <lurk3rX> where can i find wireless support?
[11:13] <jayrod06> ok well i cant seem to find the problem
[11:14] <kingspawn> Ademan:set the defaultin menu.1st
[11:14] <RaydenUni> hello
[11:14] <Ademan> ty kingspawn
[11:14] <ompaul> bimberi, that is nicer than the one atm
[11:14] <jayrod06> dust you have libgpod0 correct
[11:14] <pinky> # mount cdrom
[11:14] <pinky> mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
[11:14] <pinky> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda,
[11:14] <pinky>        missing codepage or other error
[11:14] <gnomefreak> Ademan: /boot/grub/menu.lst is the file
[11:14] <RaydenUni> i am trying to run a script when my machine starts up. i created rc.local in /etc and if i run the script it works, but starting up my machine didn't run the script. any suggestions?
[11:14] <pinky> Yeah umm, that's for discs with files over 2GB
[11:14] <pinky> Why can't Linux read those data DVDs?
[11:15] <dust> jayrod06: i'll check
[11:15] <crowley1027> :(:(:( someone help??
[11:15] <anthony999> hello
[11:15] <anthony999> yes me !
[11:15] <ompaul> crowley1027, I had the bot send you two messages
[11:15] <ompaul> here are two urls
[11:15] <Ademan> pinky: too small of a swap?
[11:15] <crowley1027> didn't recognise te first one
[11:15] <crowley1027> saw the secdnd.
[11:15] <AlwaysIcey> hello anthony.
[11:15] <crowley1027> second one didn't elp
[11:15] <pinky> Ademan: Oh, that depends on the swap partition??
[11:16] <Ademan> pinky: it was just a guess
[11:16] <Ademan> and i think it was kinda a bad guess too
[11:16] <Ademan> lol
[11:16] <Ademan> but it might be something to look into
[11:16] <ompaul> crowley1027, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge
[11:16] <pinky> Well I can have files over 2Gb on my ext3 partitions...
[11:16] <pinky> But it just won't mount iso9660 datd DVDs if they have files over 2GB
[11:16] <Ademan> if a file is bigger than your swap, and you're opening it ALL into some program... you might land in some trouble
[11:16] <ompaul> crowley1027, well combinations of bootoptions should help
[11:17] <Ademan> pinky: hrm, well how big is your swap anyways?
[11:17] <pinky> I'm thinking maybe Nero added some weird extension in order to accomodate for the >2GB files on the DVD
[11:17] <Ademan> 2 gigs seems so arbitrary
[11:17] <bobbyd> hi
[11:17] <ompaul> crowley1027, the other one is a cheat
[11:17] <bobbyd> can I get quicktime files to stream in konqueror?
[11:17] <lee_> how to install hamachi
[11:17] <crowley1027> paulsklude page does NOT exist
[11:17] <pinky> Ademan: It seems to me that perhaps it's a limiation of the filesystem on the DVD, and in order to work around it Nero did something when it burned my discs.
[11:17] <jayrod06> guys i need quicktime aac encoder for ubuntu, any suggestions? itunes with wine didnt work well enough
[11:18] <pinky> And Windows could read those discs fine, but Linux can't
[11:18] <disinterseted_pe> how do i make a downloaded file executable
[11:18] <crowley1027> how bout just telling me what I should do?
[11:18] <pinky> And that's horribly frustrating because I have a lot of DVDs with large files on them.
[11:18] <AlwaysIcey> disinterested chmod +x
[11:18] <disinterseted_pe> in the terminal?
[11:18] <AlwaysIcey> Yep.
[11:18] <disinterseted_pe> ok ty
[11:18] <Ademan> pinky: unless windows decided to be non-standards compliant (and we know they never do that :-p ) i suppose that could be the case
[11:18] <AlwaysIcey> np
[11:19] <ompaul> crowley1027, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge is there I am looking at it
[11:19] <pinky> Ademan: I doubt it's Windows' fault.  Nero is what burned the discs.
[11:19] <jayrod06> always icey vista doesnt stack up with ubuntu does it
[11:19] <AlwaysIcey> If you only want to make it executable for the owner, it's chmode +xu
[11:19] <Ademan> well i know
[11:19] <dust> jayrod06: synaptic pm couldn't find anything with that name
[11:19] <Ademan> but the fact that tehy can read a non-standard disk is alarming
[11:19] <mjr> ISO 9660 file size limit is 2 gigs. UDF might support bigger, dunno.
[11:19] <pinky> I distinctly remember when I selected a large file (over 2GB) to be burned in a data DVD in Nero it would give me a warning.
[11:19] <AlwaysIcey> They're two different animals jayrod.  I haven't used Ubuntu or really any distro as much as I'd like to.
[11:19] <jayrod06> @dust libgpod0 allows ubuntu to read and write to the ipod
[11:19] <dust> jayrod06: all repositories are enabled
[11:20] <jayrod06> you need that and i bet thats the problem
[11:20] <pinky> mjr: Well Nero happened to burn the data DVDs *anyway*
[11:20] <mjr> *shrug*
[11:20] <AlwaysIcey> I'll say this though.  One reason that Linux can be more powerful then Windows is that you still have the command-line.
[11:20] <pinky> And they could be read under Windows... did it add some extenstion to the filesystem to make it accomodate the >2Gb files?
[11:20] <mjr> pinky, tried to mount it spesifically as udf?
[11:20] <jayrod06> dust dapper or breezy?
[11:21] <pinky> okay so "mount -t udf cdrom" ?
[11:21] <dust> what about libipod-cil (i have that installed) --breezy
[11:21] <ruchbah> crowley1027 - still stuck on hotplug?
[11:21] <Ademan> so in menu.lst   "default" specifies the index of the default kernel to boot?
[11:21] <crowley1027> yeah
[11:21] <disinterseted_pe> ok chmod +z doesnt work on here
[11:21] <AlwaysIcey> x not z ;)
[11:21] <lurk3rX> lol
[11:21] <ruchbah> crowley1027 - what I would do is first reboot
[11:21] <crowley1027> i'm installing server
[11:21] <crowley1027> *listening*
[11:21] <ruchbah> crowley1027 pick safe mode
[11:22] <ruchbah> crowley1027 in grub
[11:22] <jayrod06> dust try this http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/libs/libgpod0
[11:22] <ruchbah> crowley1027 see if that gets you all the up
[11:22] <crowley1027> how to do safe mode in grub?
[11:22] <tronus> can some please point me to a help channel for ubuntu?
[11:22] <jayrod06> thats the only ipod related package i have that isnt a music program
[11:22] <crowley1027> this IS a help channel...
[11:22] <Ademan> tronus: you're in it
[11:22] <crowley1027> lol
[11:22] <crowley1027> lolololololol
[11:22] <ruchbah> crowley1027 you should get a 2 sec
[11:22] <AlwaysIcey> You're in one tronus.
[11:22] <ruchbah> crowley1027 delay to
[11:22] <tronus> kewl :) i didnt wanna anoy anyone
[11:22] <AlwaysIcey> lol
[11:22] <ruchbah> crowley1027crowley1027  hit esc as it's booting
[11:22] <dust> jayrod06: that works with breezy okay?
[11:23] <pinky> Arrghh
[11:23] <ruchbah> crowley1027 that will give you a menu
[11:23] <namit> anyone got a msn working for linux with xgl
[11:23] <ruchbah> crowley1027 this is before your kernel
[11:23] <crowley1027> wait hold on
[11:23] <ruchbah> crowley1027 comes up
[11:23] <AlwaysIcey> So, what do you need help with tronus?
[11:23] <crowley1027> i have comp off
[11:23] <disinterseted_pe> alwayssIcey chmod +z isnt working for installing realplayer 10
[11:23] <gnomefreak> namit: #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-xgl please
[11:23] <tronus> i have libSDL-1.2.so.0 installed and pointed to in the path
[11:23] <Jimmey_1> Where do I put .dll files that are needed by a .exe to run in wine?
[11:23] <ompaul> namit you got to ask in #ubuntu+1 that is a dapper question
[11:23] <tronus> but quake 4 cant find it when i try to run it
[11:23] <gnomefreak> namit: most people use amsn or gaim
[11:23] <crowley1027> booting from HD
[11:24] <crowley1027> i'm ate menu
[11:24] <crowley1027> with 3 options
[11:24] <AlwaysIcey> disinterested, it's chmod + x not + z.  ;)
[11:24] <jayrod06> not sure dust
[11:24] <namit> k thanks
[11:24] <crowley1027> and the option to press E and C
[11:24] <disinterseted_pe> duh ok
[11:24] <jayrod06> you can always remove it if not
[11:24] <ruchbah> crowley1027 ok, see the safe m?
[11:24] <namit> did not know there was another channel am new to all this
[11:24] <crowley1027> recovery mode?
[11:24] <AlwaysIcey> what's the exact file name disinterested? and are you on the computer right now, or a different one?
[11:24] <ruchbah> crowley1027 yeah
[11:24] <crowley1027> yeah
[11:24] <crowley1027> i see it
[11:24] <crowley1027> its goin
[11:24] <crowley1027> booting
[11:24] <Jimmey_1> !enter
[11:24] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[11:24] <Jimmey_1> XoD
[11:25] <ruchbah> crowley1027 see if you can get fully loaded like that
[11:25] <crowley1027> setting syhstem clock...
[11:25] <ruchbah> crowley1027 then figure out what was up weith
[11:25] <crowley1027> big thing...
[11:25] <ruchbah> crowley1027 hotplug
[11:25] <crowley1027> nope
[11:25] <crowley1027> froze.
[11:25] <ruchbah> crowley1027 froze.  Hum
[11:25] <crowley1027> code (big list of 2 letter hex?)
[11:25] <crowley1027> 68 e1 29 blablabla
[11:26] <ompaul> crowley1027, now try the kludge it works with breezy a lot  - please put all your thoughts on one line give others a chance to read the screen thanks ;-)
[11:26] <ruchbah> crowley1027 - uh .... dunno
[11:26] <crowley1027> it says code: 68 e1 29 c0 74 1c blablabla
[11:26] <crowley1027> just reinstall?
[11:26] <ompaul> crowley1027, yes
[11:26] <crowley1027> do i type SERVER before i hit enter?
[11:26] <ruchbah> crowley1027 - and don't swa phd's around
[11:27] <ompaul> crowley1027, machine pauses and then you type server then you hit the enter key
[11:27] <lurk3rX> i am using ubuntu live... the lastest... wanted to try it out before installing it, is there a way to install from here... or should i just download the full install?
[11:27] <ompaul> crowley1027, all the instructions are on that screen enjoy
[11:27] <disinterseted_pe> its saying chmod: cannot access `RealPlayer10GOLD.bin': No such file or directory
[11:27] <Ademan> so in menu.lst       "default" specifies which kernel to boot by default right?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> lurk3rX: is it 5.10 or 6.06
[11:27] <Ademan> lurk3rX: are you using dapper or breezy?
[11:27] <lurk3rX> umm one sec
[11:27] <AlwaysIcey> Ok, if you do a ls in the directory, is it listed there?
[11:28] <Ademan> it should say on your background if it's dapper
[11:28] <disinterseted_pe> no
[11:28] <Arrick> anyone I am trying to build a home recording studio using linux, anyone have anything besides Planet CCRMA for suggestions?
[11:28] <AlwaysIcey> Ok, first you'll need to cd into whatever location the file is in.  Or you'll have to give it the full pathname to the RealPlayer file.
[11:28] <lurk3rX> its the 5.10
[11:29] <disinterseted_pe> im very new to this and have no clue how to do pathnames
[11:29] <_paulb> where do i put dlls for a wine program?
[11:29] <AlwaysIcey> Ok, not a problem.  Where did you save the file to?
[11:29] <Jimmey_1> _paulb, XoD
[11:29] <delta> cya
[11:29] <lucas> Arrick, http://agnula.org/
[11:30] <disinterseted_pe> i havent yet i downloaded and it wouldnt open
[11:30] <eugman> How do I check my local ip?
[11:30] <AlwaysIcey> Ok, so when you downloaded it, where did it get put on the computer? Desktop or home folder, maybe?
[11:30] <ompaul> disinterseted_pe, please read the web page https://www.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats it tells you exactly how to install that software
[11:31] <dbcalo> where do i get the kernel source for the latest released kernel? doesn't seem to be in the package manager.
[11:31] <disinterseted_pe> h/o i'll look
[11:31] <AlwaysIcey> k
[11:31] <vlad> has anyone gotten punkbuster for quake 3 to work on breezy?
[11:31] <disinterseted_pe> its there on my desktop
[11:31] <AlwaysIcey> eugman, for your "Public" ip, try http://www.whatsmyip.org
[11:31] <emrys64> hmmm... a few people in here
[11:31] <AlwaysIcey> Disinterested: In the terminal, type in cd Desktop
[11:31] <dust> jayrod06: when i checked the permissions in the places-->computer window it said:  file owner was root and only read was checked for owner, group and other
[11:31] <ompaul> disinterseted_pe,  read the web page https://www.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats << it tells you all you want to know
[11:32] <disinterseted_pe> ok
[11:32] <hardcorelamer> anyone know how to fix "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0" when doing ifup eth0 ?
[11:32] <eugman> +p AlwaysIcey, I know that. How do I find my privite ip?
[11:32] <tronus> i keep getting "error while loading share libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0" when i try to run quake 4.. and im assuming any other program that usesalso
[11:32] <tronus> i have SDL installed and that librarys path added to /etc/ld.so.conf and ldconfig'd
[11:32] <AlwaysIcey> Good question.  I'm not sure if ifconfig will tell you or not.  Let me look into it a little. (eugman)
[11:32] <ompaul> hardcorelamer, what kind of a card is that?
[11:33] <ompaul> eugman, ifconfig
[11:33] <Jimmey_1> tronus, try sudo apt-cache search libSDL
[11:33] <dust> but on the desktop it says: file group <my name> and read, write and execute are checked for owner
[11:33] <hardcorelamer> ompaul, broadcom something
[11:33] <Jimmey_1> Then install all the funky lookin' ones
[11:33] <hardcorelamer> ndiswrapper
[11:33] <ompaul> hardcorelamer, wireless or hardwired?
[11:34] <eugman> Thanks. My intenal ip changes and that was causing some problems.
[11:34] <hardcorelamer> wireless, ndiswrapper -l gives good info; iwconfig says eth0 is 802.11b/g
[11:34] <hardcorelamer> wired port is eth1
[11:34] <Ademan> whenever I middle mouse click on something in firefox it brings up the new tab as expected, but it ALSO acts as though i made a left button click... bad driver? bad firefox?
[11:34] <Arrick> hardcorelamer, what is in the place of eth0?
[11:34] <ompaul> hardcorelamer, the way on ubuntu to do ndiswrapper is detailed here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ndiswrapper
[11:34] <disinterseted_pe> ok i did cd Desktop what else?
[11:35] <hardcorelamer> ompaul, tha'ts what I'm looking at
[11:35] <ompaul> hardcorelamer, ahhhh
[11:35] <ompaul> hardcorelamer, there are other guides which don't work :-)
[11:35] <hardcorelamer> Arrick, what do you mean, eth0 is eth0, the broadcom card is in eth0
[11:35] <tronus> Jimmey_1, whas that telling me what i have installed?
[11:35] <Arrick> ok
[11:35] <dust> jayrod06: but both say 'unmount' instead of 'eject'.
[11:36] <hardcorelamer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ndiswrapper  <-- 404
[11:36] <AlwaysIcey> Disinterested:  Try tying in chmod +x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin  You may need to put sudo before the chmod, if it doesn't work.
[11:36] <hardcorelamer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper  <-- that's where I'm at
[11:36] <Jimmey_1> tronus, no, it tells you what packages are available for the search
[11:36] <eugman> Hey everyone, Install bombardier and load it from the console. It's fun.
[11:36] <ompaul> DISINTERSETED_PE,  Please READ this web page https://www.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats << it tells you all you want to know
[11:36] <Jimmey_1> tronus, it gives you a list, then you can just sudo apt-get install things from that list
[11:36] <jayrod06> h/o dust
[11:36] <tronus> Jimmey_1, i already have it installed
[11:37] <dust> h/o?
[11:37] <tronus> Jimmey_1, and i have the path added to me ld.so.conf file
[11:37] <Jimmey_1> tronus, maybe you need the development package
[11:37] <jayrod06> from my computer there is no ipod owner
[11:37] <jayrod06> it says unknown
[11:37] <jayrod06> did libgpod0 go through?
[11:38] <dust> no not yet, i'm still trying to find a mirror that is working
[11:38] <ompaul> jayrod06,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[11:38] <AlwaysIcey> ompaul, that page comes up as not existing. :S
[11:38] <AlwaysIcey> The one you're giving Disinterested, I mean..  I should have clarified that.
[11:39] <punkcut> ls -al
[11:39] <punkcut> oops..., sorry.
[11:39] <ruchbah> eugman - die number signs die!
[11:39] <ompaul> AlwaysIcey, this one? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:39] <Madpilot> AlwaysIcey & disinterseted_pe -  wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:39] <AlwaysIcey> Let me try that one.
[11:39] <punkcut> does debian have a tool for managing services?
[11:39] <Madpilot> ompaul, you gave www.ubuntu.com/ above
[11:39] <ompaul> ahh
[11:39] <eugman> Bambardier is really fun but I've never beaten it yet.
[11:39] <tronus> Jimmey_1, i installed the dev package and it didnt change it
[11:39] <jayrod06> im trying to help him ompaul not me
[11:40] <eugman> er, I mean bombardier.
[11:40] <jayrod06> my ipod is fine
[11:40] <ompaul> Madpilot, well spotted :)
[11:40] <Jimmey_1> tronus, just randomly install packages that look like they might make a difference
[11:40] <Jimmey_1> It's what I do :)
[11:40] <tronus> Jimmey_1, ill give it a shot heh :)
[11:40] <dust> i checked out the wiki first but it all seems to be pretty generic with the assuption that everything will work
[11:40] <AlwaysIcey> Yep, that one works ompaul.  I'm going to whisper it to him, in case he missed it when you posted it.
[11:41] <ompaul> AlwaysIcey, which minute was it given in .. I am now very curious
[11:42] <arrinmurr> is there an easy way to create some kind of archive that is split into multiple files?
[11:42] <lyh> I got two sound cards installed, ubuntu uses the one I dont want to use by default, how do I change so it uses the other?
[11:42] <maike-maus> hello. can anybody help me getting my network / internet working?
[11:42] <disinterseted_pe> ompaul that site wont open either
[11:42] <Draconicus> Can anyone tell me what I need to install to allow K3b to handle MP3?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Draconicus -about mp3
[11:42] <colliier88> how do i launch terminal im a newbee
[11:43] <arrinmurr> Draconicus: k3b-mp3 ?
[11:43] <AlwaysIcey> Disinterested: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  this is the right page.
[11:43] <Draconicus> arrinmurr: That package doesn't exist.
[11:43] <hardcorelamer> i added iface wlan0 inet dhcp to /etc/network/interfaces, added alias wlan0 ndiswrapper to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper; rebooted, but iwconfig still thinks eth0 is my wireless
[11:43] <coucho> lyh: is one an onboard or something?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> Draconicus: k3b is a burner not so much a player
[11:43] <jayrod06> ok guys ive asked this for a while now
[11:43] <em_pl> hello
[11:43] <jayrod06> please answer me
[11:43] <Draconicus> gnomefreak: I know this. I'm trying to make an audio CD. :P
[11:43] <lyh> coucho, exactly
[11:43] <jayrod06> i need a quicktime aac encoder for ubuntu
[11:43] <jayrod06> where can i get that
[11:43] <disinterseted_pe> ok ty
[11:43] <Draconicus> Technically I'm in dapper, and I thought I did the restricted formats bit. I guess I forgot to.
[11:43] <gnomefreak> Draconicus: install the codecs for mp3 look in your pm for the site
[11:43] <coucho> lyh: you probably have to disable it in the BIOS
[11:43] <colliier88> how do i launch terminal im a newbee
[11:44] <em_pl> has anyone been installing pctv usb TV card on linux ? ... prv please
[11:44] <ompaul> jayrod06, read that page please  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:44] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jayrod06 -about restricted
[11:44] <Jimmey_1> colliier88, Applications >> accessories >> terminal :)
[11:44] <Draconicus> gnomefreak: I'm no newbie. I just forgot to do the restricted formats stuff when I reinstalled Ubuntu on this machine (harddrive crapped out on me). :P
[11:44] <colliier88> thank u
[11:45] <crowley1027> agpgart: Agp aperture is 128m @ 0xe0000000
[11:45] <crowley1027> what does that mean?
[11:45] <crowley1027> its an error i got.
[11:45] <coucho> lyh: read it?
[11:45] <Jimmey_1> coucho, lyh left the room..
[11:45] <coucho> ah didn't notice
[11:45] <Jimmey_1> :P
[11:46] <hardcorelamer> jayrod06, libfaac0 ?
[11:46] <Amin> hi there. I'm on to my machine after 2months cuz was having my exams and seems like i;;ve forgotten my su and user password for ubuntu logins. what shall I do ???
[11:46] <Jimmey_1> Amin, boot into a recovery thing
[11:46] <Jimmey_1> Somehow
[11:46] <coucho> lol
[11:46] <Jimmey_1> XoD
[11:47] <Jimmey_1> I know what I mean, I just can't remember exactly
[11:47] <ompaul> Amin, you need a live CD or your install and try to get revover with that - that is why we say don't use a root password :-(
[11:47] <Amin> I did that but when it said enter login or ctrl+D to continue so i pressed ctrl+d to continue and i again ended up on the login screen
[11:47] <rickrude> regards
[11:47] <negman> try admin:god
[11:47] <negman> it worked in hackers
[11:47] <ompaul> Amin, you need a live CD
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> ompaul : what about init=/bin/sh
[11:47] <amphi> Amin: you can boot with init=/bin/bash
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> no
[11:48] <Jimmey_1> Sounds like a job for John, eh ompaul
[11:48] <coucho> lol
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> root=/bin/sh
[11:48] <DBO> negman... but the FIREWALL!
[11:48] <amphi> Amin: remount / rw and run passwd
[11:48] <jayrod06> ompaul, that wiki talks only about faac as an aac encoder, i want quicktime encoding
[11:48] <crowley1027> VLC media player
[11:48] <Amin> amphi i'm sorry, remount means ? and how to do it ?
[11:48] <crowley1027> bwahaha
[11:48] <crowley1027> plays everything
[11:48] <rickrude> i have a ubuntu cd and i have 2 drives, i wanted to install ubuntu on an E: drive and wondered if i can just make a boot partition on the e: with some space i have on to use just for unbuntu?
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> if you say root=/bin/sh you have root by default, then mount -o rw /   and run passwd user
[11:49] <jayrod06> quicktime beat faac in listening tests
[11:49] <Blissex> rickrude: yes, but your terminology is not quite right...
[11:49] <lsuactiafner> jayrod06 : and quicktime audio has sync problems....
[11:49] <amphi> Amin: mount / -o remount,rw
[11:49] <rickrude> ok thanks blissex
[11:49] <coucho> can vlc play files off a ntfs mount?
[11:49] <Creteil> just finished installing ubuntu dapper, after this upgraded with all available updates, but now the start of X session take minutes to start after i have enterd my l/p ... any idea ?
[11:49] <lsuactiafner> jayrod06 : i encode to mp3 and mpeg4 with mencoder
[11:49] <ompaul> lsuactiafner, when your locked out of grub how do you get to an option to add stuff to the kernel options?
[11:49] <jayrod06> what sync problems, none that i have seen
[11:49] <Amin> amphi when i cant login, then where should paste that command?
[11:49] <amphi> Amin: you'll want to remount it ro again before you reboot/shut down
[11:50] <chx> a colony of badgers... a flight of drakes... but what's the collective noun for efts?
[11:50] <coucho> can vlc play files off a ntfs mount?
[11:50] <negman> if i'm having really slow drive to drive file transfers, where should i look for configuration info to fix that?
[11:50] <felipe__> Has anyone imported his gmail contacts into thunderbird???
[11:50] <crimsun> vlc doesn't care about the underlying fs
[11:50] <jayrod06> does mencoder use quicktime's aac encoder?
[11:50] <ompaul> chx, your mission should you choose to accept it is to find out what a group of newts are
[11:50] <amphi> Amin: you boot with 'init=/bin/bash' on the kernel command line, that'll put you straight into a root shell with / mounted ro
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> ompaul : i use lilo.. but why is he locked out of grub? should be able to specify a boot option before grub times out and start loading the kernel?
[11:50] <coucho> crimsun: thnx
[11:50] <dust> jayrod06: are you looking for quicktime (.MOV) encoding? --cause if you are i've been looking for a week and haven't turned up anything, and no i haven't got libgpod to unpack yet.
[11:50] <rickrude> blissex will i require a flopppy to boot or will it install grub with it so i can have a choice of xp on c: and ubuntu on the e: or space i allocated?
[11:50] <hardcorelamer> mencoder uses libfaac0
[11:50] <ompaul> lsuactiafner, when you put in a root password ...
[11:50] <jayrod06> no i dont care about movie encoding, just music
[11:50] <jayrod06> yea see i dont want faac
[11:51] <jayrod06> its obsolete
[11:51] <Blissex> rickrude: GRUB can boot XP pretty well...
[11:51] <jayrod06> quicktime > faac
[11:51] <Amin> amphi how to boot in 'init=/bin/bash ?
[11:51] <hardcorelamer> jayrod06, the only linux library for any aac encoding you will file is libfaac
[11:51] <lsuactiafner> ompaul : dont know, i just stuck to lilo, grub has always created havoc for me
[11:51] <MisterN> n8
[11:51] <crowley1027> Blissex: as opposed to what booting it?  whats XP's standard booter?
[11:51] <rickrude> blissex will i lose anything if i crate a partiton on the e: ?
[11:51] <ompaul> jayrod06, if you want quicktime you need some closed source as far as I can see
[11:51] <jayrod06> anyone have any idea where to find that?
[11:51] <Blissex> rickrude: if there is unpartitioned space you will not lose anything...
[11:52] <crowley1027> Blissex: as opposed to what booting it?  whats XP's standard booter?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> jayrod06: libfaac is not just for quicktime
[11:52] <sybariten> ok two questions
[11:52] <rickrude> it's fully partitioned already on that drive i did not think about this until just now. so that means i need to get another drive?
[11:52] <jayrod06> i know libfaac encodes aac files, but its encoded files are not as good as quicktime's
[11:52] <ompaul> jayrod06, if your not happy with what OSS offers you can improve it
[11:52] <Blissex> rickrude: but please read some tutorial/HOWTO on partitioning and booting because you are using wrong terminology and concepts, and the details matter.
[11:52] <sybariten> 1. is there some sectret place where ubuntu hides files that are removed via right-click and put to thrash
[11:52] <sybariten> because i did that to one, whose space wasnt regained
[11:53] <hardcorelamer> quicktime is a file format, not an encoding anyways
[11:53] <sybariten> it came from a torrent sessioin though ... but the computer has been rebooted since
[11:53] <jayrod06> yeah right i have no idea where to begin
[11:53] <rickrude> thanks blissex
[11:53] <sybariten> 2. how can i get the latest version of Irssi ?
[11:53] <Blissex> crowley1027: the MS XP booter does not really have a name... Some people call it from one of its components, 'NTLDR'
[11:53] <Amin> is there any help  channels of ubuntu where people can answer my question into an easy way instead of explaining me into computer language ? I agree the fact that you people are proffessionals but none of the whole world is, so I would rather suggest you all helpers to please explain in simple language. That would be really kind of you
[11:53] <gnomefreak> sybariten: irssi can be found at irssi.org
[11:53] <ompaul> lsuactiafner, afik if you use a root password it stops you from passing arguements to the kernel as you can't "bypass" grup
[11:53] <sybariten> i have 0.8.9 now and i guess apt get won't help me
[11:53] <jayrod06> quicktime has an aac encoder that is different from faac
[11:53] <hardcorelamer> yes, so go use it
[11:53] <Blissex> crowley1027: the MS XP booter can actually boot Linux too, but arranging that is far more subtle than making GRUB boot XP.
[11:54] <ompaul> lsuactiafner, you only have the default settings afik
[11:54] <jayrod06> how hardcorelamer, i cant find it for linux
[11:54] <amphi> Amin: what is your question?
[11:54] <sybariten> anyone else under ubuntu here that has a more recent version of irssi ?  did you get it through apt-get ?
[11:54] <hardcorelamer> jayrod06, it doesn't exist for linux and it never will
[11:54] <gnomefreak> sybariten: 0.8.9 is the newest ubuntu has in repos
[11:54] <coucho> crowley1027: i agree with Blissex, you can edit it too, so it boots xp first
[11:54] <gnomefreak> sybariten: sorry 0.8.10
[11:54] <sybariten> gnomefreak: hm, that more or less means no one has compiled a newer version right ?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> is the latest
[11:55] <sybariten> oh?
[11:55] <sybariten> hm
[11:55] <ompaul> jayrod06, go to the people who make this encoder you want and ask them to do a linux version, or open the api so people can write such a beast
[11:55] <sybariten> shouldnt apt-get irssi give me the latest versoin then ?
[11:55] <lsuactiafner> another reason i have now to prefer lilo
[11:55] <hardcorelamer> use libfaac, or buy a mac/windows machine and use itunes
[11:55] <gnomefreak> sybariten: its in dapper thats the only way to get it unless you compile it
[11:55] <imbusy> when installing dapper-live-amd64.iso, it halts at 71%
[11:55] <Amin> amphi please explain in simple language, what i've to do to get my login password back for ubuntu ? please do not explain in computer language i.e. mounted,bin,bash,init. I cant understand what u say
[11:55] <ompaul> lsuactiafner, ahh your stuck in the dark ages you luddite :-)
[11:55] <imbusy> the whole OS halts
[11:55] <jayrod06> those people would be apple and i dont thjink theyd be happy if i asked them to write software for linux
[11:55] <imbusy> it's the latest dapper drake release
[11:55] <ompaul> !dapper
[11:55] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until than
[11:55] <sybariten> gnomefreak: oh ok .. i'm on the not-latest versoin i think .. of ubuntu ... never managed to learn those mysterious codenames
[11:56] <gnomefreak> sybariten: one of these days i was gonna run around and compile irssi (if newer version) and links2 will all options just havent gotten around to it
[11:56] <elknof1> aloha everybody...   does anyone have a clue why can't i watch a movie continously in totem??   im trying to watch it by a microsoft network, but each minute it pasues to buffer...  i have changed the conection speed from intranet/lan, and to rdsi/modem 56kbps but it only takes longer time between pauses...
[11:56] <crowley1027> !enter
[11:56] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[11:56] <sybariten> gnomefreak: ok
[11:56] <gnomefreak> sybariten: 5.10 is the latest stable version of ubuntu
[11:56] <mwe> sybariten: 0.8.10 is the latest version from irssi.org
[11:56] <jayrod06> !ubuntu
[11:56] <ubotu> ubuntu is, like, a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[11:56] <crowley1027> !boot
[11:56] <amphi> Amin: those are the commands - you can't do it without using them ;)
[11:56] <ubotu> crowley1027: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:56] <jayrod06> lol
[11:56] <ompaul> elkbuntu, try mplayer its just better overall
[11:56] <crowley1027> windmills hurt
[11:56] <crowley1027> !windmill
[11:56] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, crowley1027
[11:56] <jayrod06> !computer
[11:56] <ubotu> somebody said computer was technically, this is anything that inputs data, processes it in some way, and outputs it.
[11:56] <ompaul> crowley1027, stop playing with the bot
[11:56] <jayrod06> !God
[11:56] <ubotu> jayrod06: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:57] <gnomefreak> jayrod06: stop
[11:57] <crowley1027> lol sorry
[11:57] <sybariten> ok back to my lost-file-question
[11:57] <jayrod06> sorry :(
[11:57] <crowley1027> !sorry
[11:57] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, crowley1027
[11:57] <crowley1027> :-D
[11:57] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here know inkscape ok?
[11:57] <crowley1027> had to do it 1 more time
[11:57] <crowley1027> i'm done
[11:57] <ompaul> too late
[11:57] <crowley1027> i understand
[11:57] <sybariten> if i do right-click and move-to-thrash on a file, and the 300 megs of space isnt cleared up ... is there then some sort of thrashcan that occupies the space, like on win ?
[11:57] <lenin_ra> what's so cool about ubuntu
[11:57] <jayrod06> try it and find out lenin
[11:57] <lenin_ra> ok gonna try to install it
[11:58] <jayrod06> nah, live cd it first
[11:58] <elknof1> :ompaul: but i dont know why i cant watch movies on a network whit mplayer...
[11:58] <jayrod06> woah he already gone
[11:58] <amphi> sybariten: gnome has something like that IIRC - ~/.Trash or something like that
[11:58] <pianoboy3333> I need help printing in inkcape!
[11:59] <ompaul> crowley1027, there are 700+ in this channel every line of data we don't need on the screen interfers with someone getting the answer they need please don't do stuff like that again
[11:59] <oknewbie> anyone here good at building webpages?
[11:59] <coucho> oknewbie: a little
[11:59] <gnomefreak> oknewbie: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:59] <oknewbie> thanx
[12:00] <crowley1027> type "/quit persons-nick" and it'll boot the person!! HAHA
[12:00] <oknewbie> join #ubuntu-offtopic