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braddrfabbione: have you ever built a linux/sparc kernel from solaris/sparc?  I'm gonna try to see if I can gather some more debugging info.  Dave doesn't believe he'll have time before I have to return the box.05:35
braddror from linux/x86, for that matter05:35
fabbionebraddr: well i did from linux arch foo to sparc07:56
fabbionebut not from solaris07:57
fabbionegoogle for crosstoolchain07:57
=== braddr nods. compiling from solaris is proving to be rather painful
fabbioneno wonder08:28
fabbioneif you have a patch i can build a kernel for you08:28
fabbioneit takes me only a few minutes here08:28
fabbioneor something you want to play with08:28
braddrwell, I want to turn on all the debug options and probably add a bunch of printfs around the point of failure.. so the ability to iterate and build the net boot images on demand08:29
fabbioneyeah i understand that08:30
fabbionehmm08:30
fabbioneif you have a'linux box, just build the cross compile tools08:30
fabbioneit's really easy to do08:30
=== braddr nods, "just never have before. :)"
fabbionebraddr:  there is a set of scripts that do that for you. it's one of the first hits on google :)08:31
braddrbuilding gcc and glibc.. this might just take a little while.08:39
fabbioneyeah it doesn't take that long.. iirc it disables the test suite08:42
braddrwhile this is running, if you feel like spinning a build with all the debug options turned on that might give something to go on.  If I recall correctly, we were suspecting memory corruption, so CONFIG_DEBUG_SLAB, CONFIG_DEBUG_VM, CONFIG_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC, and maybe CONFIG_DEBUG_BOOTMEM might be interesting.08:44
fabbioneyes.. i can do that08:44
braddrhave you seen other reports of boot problems or successes with 16 cpu models?08:45
fabbionenot one :(08:45
fabbionebut i did add you to the Release Notes08:45
braddrthat's unfortunate08:45
fabbione * SUN T2000 with 4 cores have been reported as not working.08:45
fabbioneok give me a sec and i will build for you08:47
fabbionemore than a sec08:47
fabbionei need to power up everything08:47
braddrno hurry.. the scripts are running to build the sparc64 tool chain08:48
fabbionebraddr: i assume you did try already to boot the latest installer...08:54
braddrI haven't tried anything since we last worked on this.. been sticking with solaris.08:54
fabbionecan you try just in case?08:55
braddrsure08:55
fabbionehttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/installer-sparc/current/images/sparc64/netboot/2.6/08:55
fabbionemay never know it was "auto-fixed"08:55
braddrstranger things have certainly happened08:56
braddrfetching now08:56
fabbioneyup08:56
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fabbioneeehhe09:03
fabbionei had it turned on for the last few days together with the SAN09:03
fabbioneto do test installs for release09:03
fabbionei can't hear my wife anymore.. and that's good... ;)09:04
fabbionenot sure i will be able to hear anything anylonger..09:04
braddrmine's been on for weeks09:04
fabbioneno i power it off when i don't need it09:04
fabbionei did rebuild all of the 9000 pkgs of dapper in 36 hours flat on my T2000 :)09:05
fabbionewith 2 of them you could make a port of a distro in a day09:05
braddra few additional messages in the boot log, but dies with essentially the same error, but no stacktrace09:06
fabbioneok09:06
braddrbefore:09:07
braddr[   11.338121]  NET: Registered protocol family 17 [   11.648468]  Badness in proc_get_inode at fs/proc/inode.c:157 [   11.821338]  Call Trace: [   11.898036]   [00000000004a1ee0]  __lookup_hash+0xe0/0x140 [   12.065575]   [00000000004a5128]  open_namei+0x128/0x640 [   12.227346]   [00000000004924c0]  filp_open+0x20/0x60 [   12.379717]   [0000000000492658]  do_sys_open+0x38/0xe0 [   12.543989]   [0000000000406a14]  linux_sparc_syscall32+0x34/0x40 [   12.739641]   [009:07
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fabbionewell i remember that09:08
braddrin the 'after' picture.. after the net: registered protocol familly 17 is some usb probing then it probes all 4 eth ports09:08
braddrending with:09:08
braddr[   14.590307]  e1000: eth3: e1000_probe: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection09:08
braddrStarting system log daemon: syslogd, klogd.09:08
braddr[   16.902270]  SUN4V-DTLB: Error at TPC[41c400] , tl -103427276809:08
braddr[   17.143287]  SUN4V-DTLB: vaddr[ffffffffffff0000]  ctx[0]  pte[800007ffffff0743]  error[2] 09:08
fabbioneHMMMM09:08
fabbionewhere you running slowlaris before rebooting in Linux?09:09
braddrthought you might like the user space part. :)09:09
braddryes09:09
fabbionecan you please poweroff -> poweron -> boot ?09:09
braddrroger09:09
braddrwhat was the openboot command to disable auto booting?09:09
braddrset auto-boot false?09:09
fabbionelike if i remember.... hold on :)09:10
fabbionesetenv auto-boot false?09:10
braddrlooks like it's already set that way from last time.09:11
braddrpowering back on.. 10 minutes to info. :)09:12
fabbionetake your time09:12
fabbionei am still installing kernel b-d09:12
fabbionethe machine was in an interesting state today after a few tons of installs09:13
braddrhrm.. looks like the crosstool build blew up while building the kernel09:14
fabbionethat's no surprise.. the kernel config is crap there iirc09:14
braddrI'll poke at the script and see how to disable building the kernel and glibc.. all I need is gcc09:15
braddrStarting system log daemon: syslogd, klogd.09:19
braddrKilled09:19
braddr/build/buildd/cdebconf-0.97ubuntu3/src/debconf.c:135 (main): Cannot initialize debconf template database09:19
braddr/build/buildd/cdebconf-0.97ubuntu3/src/debconf.c:135 (main): Cannot initialize debconf template database09:19
braddrFATAL: Module usbkbd not found.09:19
braddrFATAL: Module usbhid not found.09:19
braddrFATAL: Module usbserial not found.09:19
braddr/build/buildd/cdebconf-0.97ubuntu3/src/debconf.c:135 (main): Cannot initialize debconf template database09:19
braddrthe last line repeats09:20
fabbioneok09:20
fabbioneit's that "killed" before 09:20
fabbionebut at least it looks less scary09:20
fabbioneok building the kernel now09:21
braddrthere isn't a SUN4V-DTLB part this time09:21
fabbioneyes09:21
fabbionei can see that :)09:21
fabbioneit's probably being catched by syslog or klogd09:21
=== braddr nods, just confirming that I didn't leave it out.
fabbionethat's why i told you to poweroff09:21
fabbionesometimes slowlaris leave the CPU in an "interesting" unresettable state (for linux)09:22
fabbionei think somehow the main issue has been solved but there is still something fishy going on. otherwise you would have seen the same problem09:23
fabbioneTBH if i was you i would try yet another reboot.. just to enjoy the 4 secs of silence between reboots09:24
fabbioneno seriously.. i would like to see another reboot 09:24
fabbioneto see if the DTLB error comes up again09:24
fabbionesometimes it's just a matter of timing with syslog starting09:24
braddroh.. you wanted it w/o the powercycle?09:24
fabbionepowercycle was perfectly fine09:25
fabbionejust do another one now09:25
braddrok.. in progress.09:25
fabbionewhat we want to try to see if syslog is hiding it or not09:25
fabbionegiven that we can't access the logs once it crashes09:25
braddrit might be interesting to see if two boots back to back w/o a powercycle gets the original error09:25
fabbioneup to you09:25
fabbionethe kernel here is almost done09:26
braddrpast post, into the linux boot now09:31
fabbione:)09:31
braddrcrosstool past a stupid linux source bug and into building binutils09:32
braddrStarting system log daemon: syslogd, klogd.09:32
braddr[   10.285601]  SUN4V-DTLB: Error at TPC[41c400] , tl -103427276809:32
braddr[   10.521781]  SUN4V-DTLB: vaddr[ffffffffffff0000]  ctx[0]  pte[800007ffffff0743]  error[2] 09:32
fabbioneyup09:33
fabbioneit was just hidden somewhere09:33
fabbionekernel is linking09:37
fabbioneccache populated :)09:37
braddrgcc is buliding09:38
braddrI presume I'll need to grab more bits to build a boot.img file..09:40
=== braddr wanders back to google, the fount of knowledge
fabbioneoh to build that one.. yes09:41
fabbionei can give you the initrd09:41
fabbioneall you have to do is to slam it at the bottom of the a.out image09:41
braddrjust cat the two together?09:42
fabbionedo you have debian/ubuntu on the other linux box?09:42
braddrdebian,yes09:42
fabbioneapt-get source debian-installer09:42
fabbionelook for tftpboot.sh09:43
fabbionethat's the script that creates the boot.img09:43
braddrroger09:43
fabbionehmm i can tell you that even if we manage to boot this debug, you won't be able to install09:46
fabbionebut i can workaround that with a lot of patience09:46
braddrs'ok.. step one, figure out what's breaking09:46
fabbioneyeah09:46
braddrstep two.. profit09:46
fabbione:)09:46
braddrthat tftpboot.sh script relies on some binaries not part of the installer.. I believe I recognize piggyback from the kernel build, not sure about elf2aout09:48
fabbioneelf2out just converts a elf exec to a aout09:49
fabbionei am sure there are sources somewhere09:49
fabbionefor sparc they are on sparc-utils pkg09:49
=== braddr nods
=== braddr will tackle that after getting the crosscompiler built and the linux kernel itself built. :)
fabbionei am uploading the image..09:58
fabbionehttp://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/braddr/10:01
=== braddr wgets
=== braddr boot net's.
braddrprobably should powercycle, but let's see if this gets anything interesting10:05
braddrseems to stall here:10:06
braddrBooting Linux...10:06
braddrmem_init: Calling free_all_bootmem().10:06
fabbioneinteresting10:07
braddrany thoughts before I start the 10 minute power cycle bootup?10:07
fabbioneit might be just slow???10:08
braddrbeen well over a minute now10:08
=== braddr starts the cycle
fabbioneok try again10:09
fabbionei will build one that doesn't trigger that10:09
=== braddr will need to put a cap on this.. it's after 1am here.
braddrI'll go until 210:10
fabbioneok10:11
fabbione#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_BOOTMEM10:11
fabbione        prom_printf("mem_init: Calling free_all_bootmem().\n");10:11
fabbione#endif10:11
fabbione        totalram_pages = num_physpages = free_all_bootmem() - 1;10:12
braddrseems pretty harmless10:12
fabbionechecking what that does exactly10:13
braddrconsidering there's other printf's in the neighborhood, adding one more can't be a problem by itself.10:13
fabbioneyeps10:15
fabbioneslamming one immediatly after10:15
fabbioneto se10:15
fabbioneto see if that completes10:15
braddrsame stall.10:18
=== braddr will give it several minutes
fabbionei am almost done with the other printk10:19
=== braddr nods.. that's what I was figuring would be the next boot. :)
fabbioneit takes a little bit to do things properly10:19
fabbionein terms of change -> track change -> build proper images -> create boot.img -> blabla10:20
braddrscrew the properly part. :)10:21
fabbioneno i don't.. it's important for me that each bit it's always tested properly...10:22
fabbionewe used to hack that way when we were adding the support to the kernel10:22
fabbionebut we realized only later that at cleanup time we lost bits here and there10:22
=== braddr eyes the crosstools build.. died again.
fabbioneduplicating work etc.10:22
=== braddr nods.
braddrI tend to take a 2 pass approach.. hack and slash until the main bug goes away, then re-do things with better knowledge of the problem from the original source10:23
fabbioneyeah but this is more building the image trick to be consistent10:26
fabbionethe code is in git.. so it's easy for me to grab the diff and reapply it clean to the main truck10:26
fabbionetrunk10:26
braddrsparc64-unknown-linux-gnu-hello-static: ELF 64-bit MSB executable, SPARC V9, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.3, statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.4.3, not stripped10:27
braddryay10:27
fabbionenice10:27
fabbioneuploading10:31
fabbioneok it's there10:33
fabbionesame url10:33
braddrgetting...10:33
braddrfor what it's worth, still stalled there.10:33
fabbione#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_BOOTMEM10:34
fabbione        prom_printf("mem_init: Calling free_all_bootmem().\n");10:34
fabbione#endif10:34
fabbione        totalram_pages = num_physpages = free_all_bootmem() - 1;10:34
fabbione#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_BOOTMEM10:34
fabbione        prom_printf("mem_init: done Calling free_all_bootmem().\n");10:34
fabbione#endif10:34
fabbionethis should tell you if it goes any further10:34
fabbionethe stuff that free_all_bootmem calls are woodoo to me10:34
=== braddr consults his magic eight ball to see what it predicts.
fabbionei predict it boots, print my stuff and hangs10:34
braddrthat'd be the A answer.10:34
fabbioneif it goes further you should see:10:35
fabbione        printk("Memory: %uk available (%ldk kernel code, %ldk data, %ldk init) [%016lx,%016lx] \n",10:35
braddrwow.. break from sc isn't getting a prompt.  powercycleing10:36
braddrmem_init: done Calling free_all_bootmem().10:43
fabbioneand it hangs...10:44
=== fabbione sighs
fabbioneok let's try without BOOMEM debugging10:44
braddrat least the voodoo off in the boot mem freeing code can be avoided. :)10:44
fabbioneyeah10:44
fabbionei should really poweron the SAN to do these builds10:51
fabbionespending ages on I/O on these slow SAS disks10:51
braddrheh10:52
ajmitchhi fabbione 10:53
fabbionehi aj10:53
fabbionebraddr: almost done...10:57
fabbionegot sucked with a customer :/10:57
braddrno problem.. reading the docs on kbuild to learn how to do cross compiles10:57
fabbionebraddr: that's easy ;)10:57
fabbioneeither edit arch/sparc64/Makefile10:58
fabbioneor export hmmm what envvar..10:58
fabbioneHOSTCC and CC10:58
fabbionethat should do10:58
braddrand to trigger it as a cross build?11:00
fabbionemake ARCH=sparc64 ...11:00
fabbioneuploading new image11:01
fabbionethis one without DEBUG_BOOTMEM11:01
braddrsweet11:01
fabbionedone11:04
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braddrRemapping the kernel... done.11:09
braddrBooting Linux...11:09
braddr<stall...>11:09
fabbionehow much ram do you have there?11:09
braddr8G11:09
fabbioneok letme try to boot that image here11:10
fabbionei also have 8GB11:11
fabbioneat least we can exclude one thing11:12
fabbionethis one stalls for me too11:14
fabbioneso it's either scratching all the 8GB of ram very very slowly11:14
fabbioneor it is simply broken11:14
=== braddr votes the latter
fabbionei can try removing the ram11:14
fabbionei will let it run for a bit while i get some lunch11:14
braddrone of the boots had to have been sitting there for 10 minutes or so11:14
fabbioneand try to come back with an image for tomorrow11:14
fabbionei have no idea how verbose these debugging things are11:15
fabbionei think i will disable all of them and enable one at a time to see what breaks11:15
fabbioneit's problably easier11:15
fabbionebut it requires a few tons of reboots11:15
=== braddr nods.
fabbionego get some sleep11:15
fabbionei hope to have an image by tomorrow or something11:15
braddrI'm about to try the first kernel build11:16
fabbioneok :)11:16
fabbionebut remember that netboot needs to be a.out or it won't work11:16
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braddrthanks for the help.. see ya in 20ish hours11:17
fabbioneno problem.. sure11:17
fabbionei should be here :)11:17
braddrwell, that failed fast. :)11:17
braddrfyi: make ARCH=sparc64 CROSS_COMPILE=sparc64-unknown-linux-gnu- vmlinux.aout11:34
=== braddr grogs.
fabbionemorning04:15
braddrhiya.  before I went to sleep, I got a kernel build that worked enough to show the Booting linux... message04:18
fabbioneoh nice04:18
fabbionei managed to add a couple of DEBUGGING options from none04:19
fabbionebut i had to stop 04:19
fabbionei am going to add more now04:19
braddrI didn't get the kernel + initrd image built.. I was more anxious to see the kernel working.  I'm gonna eat dinner, watch a bit of tv, then dive back in04:19
fabbionesure04:20
fabbioneit will give me a little bit to build another couple of kernels04:20
braddryou're trying to see what debugging options work and which ones cause your own box to die during bootup?04:20
fabbioneyeps04:21
fabbionelike we discussed yesterday04:21
braddrjust checking.  They're all 'supposed' to work, I assume.. something buggy with either sparc in general or t2000 specifically, potentially?04:21
braddrI'm still running 2.4 everywhere, so I'm a tad behind the times04:22
fabbionei assume they are all supposed to work individually04:22
fabbionenot sure in big combos04:22
braddrI see references to turning some of 'em on in various l-k threads from time to time04:22
braddrI should probably do a build with a .config that matches the installer v 35 build04:23
fabbioneyeps 04:23
fabbionewhat sources are you using?04:23
fabbionevanilla or ubuntu?04:24
braddrvanilla 2.6.17-rc504:24
fabbioneok04:24
fabbionethe config might work04:24
fabbionebut a lot of drivers won't be there04:24
fabbionei am booting up now04:24
fabbionecan give you a config in 2 minutes or so04:25
braddrfor a t2000, a lot of drivers aren't relevant.04:25
fabbionei know04:26
fabbionethey are just there04:26
braddrfyi.. a snippit from an email with my sun contact:04:30
braddr> Thank you for your feedback. I have passed it along to the T2000 Try and Buy04:30
braddr> Program people, as it is a new program, we appreciate the constructive04:30
braddr> feedback. As a follow up to your first point, on the T2000 Linux is not04:30
braddr> formally supported (yet) so any efforts Dave is making are best effort.04:30
braddrthe 'yet' part I like seeing.04:31
fabbioneehhe04:31
braddrmy reply basically said I/we weren't looking for support, just time.04:31
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gnu2it2little help please.. E: Malformed line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)07:01
gnu2it2line 3 = deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports dapper07:01
gnu2it2i dont see what is malformed07:02
gnu2it2sure is quiet in here :)07:04
braddrdeb     http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib07:30
braddryou're missing section entries07:31
braddr(making up the term, not sure what it is officially)07:31
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braddrfabbione: hopefully you're still asleep, but for when you wake, not a single oops or other kernel message during the entire install except for during module loading, and there just a bunch of symbol size mismatch messages06:50
fabbionebraddr: nice...06:50
fabbionebraddr: did you try to boot the SMP kernel?06:50
braddrnot yet06:50
fabbionecould you please?06:51
braddrjust try the default installed smp kernel?06:51
fabbioneyeps06:51
braddrok.. I'll reboot after the rsync of the ubuntu.git tree is done06:51
fabbionethanks06:51
braddrwithout the debug options, the race or whatever we were hitting is likely to hit, but it'll be interesting regardless.06:53
fabbioneit might not06:55
braddrrebooting06:57
fabbionetake your time. i am kind of busy anyway06:59
braddrno problem.. just munching on some pizza and catching up on some tv06:59
braddrncpus probed    : 1607:04
braddrncpus active    : 1607:04
fabbione:)07:06
fabbionenow just play with it :)07:06
fabbioneand see how bad it goes07:06
braddrI much prefer reproducable, reliable, regular crashes.07:06
fabbionei might be able to get the config changes in if they are not too heavy07:07
fabbionein terms that we can work around it, but i need to verify how much heavier is the DEBUG_SLAB UP kernel07:07
braddrwell, this smp kernel has no config changes.. it's what came from the default install.07:07
fabbioneyeps07:07
fabbionethat means that it's only with UP kernel the problem07:07
braddror that the race condition hasn't triggered07:08
fabbioneprobably07:08
fabbioneas i said.. play with it and see if you notice anything strange07:08
fabbionei have 24h to upload a kernel07:08
fabbioneafter that it will be a matter of custom installers07:08
braddrI'll have it do a few make -j32 kernel compiles.. always good for a stress test07:09
fabbione-j512 is good too07:09
fabbionedon't be shy07:09
fabbionethe machine won't yell at you07:09
braddrthe disk might.. it's not one of the snappiest ever created.07:10
fabbionedon't worry about that07:10
fabbionetrust me :)07:10
fabbionedavem didn't finf bugs on the kernel doing -j3207:10
fabbionei did when pushing to the edges of -j409607:10
braddrright.. make -j  <nothing> it is.07:10
fabbioneyeah07:10
fabbioneok while you play.. i need to get ready to fly to London07:11
braddrif it's gonna be stressed, let's throw it all at her07:11
braddrwhee07:11
fabbionei have an airplane to catch in a few hours07:11
fabbionestress her as much as you can07:11
fabbionethe more the better07:11
braddrwhile /bin/true; do make clean; make -j; done07:12
fabbione:)07:15
braddrouch.. aboutu 1.5G into swap, about 1200 processes all fighting for some time07:20
fabbionethat's o07:20
fabbionek07:20
fabbionedon't worry07:20
braddroh, I know.. as long as I don't run outta swap it's all good07:20
fabbioneyou won't07:21
fabbionemake -j will make sure not to go over machine resources07:21
fabbioneit's done on purpose07:21
braddryeah, looks like it's over the parallelism hump anyway07:21
fabbioneok gotta go for a bit now07:22
fabbionettyl07:22
braddrhave fun in London07:22
fabbionenah still need to prepare the bag, shower and close here ;)07:22
fabbioneanother 2/3 hours07:22
fabbionejust need to get started :D07:22
braddrinteresting that 2 make processes seem to be consuming 2 of the cores full time07:26
braddrooh.. an oops, and file-max limit reached07:34
fabbionemax file is a known bug upstream07:37
fabbionelog the OOPS07:37
braddralready done07:37
fabbionethe file-max is due to SLAB not releasing cleared fd fast enough07:37
braddrthe oops is in one of the make's that's spinning.. which makes some sense.07:38
braddrwait, no it's not.07:38
braddrfun.. the two make's aren't kill -9able07:42
fabbioneadd all to the logs :)07:44
fabbioneoh hold on07:44
fabbioneonce you hit the file-max you need to reboot07:44
braddrway ahead of you07:44
fabbionethere is no proper way to recover from that07:45
braddrthe oops came before the first file-max07:45
ajmitchevening07:46
braddrhiya aj07:46
ajmitchsounds like you're stressing the box nicely :)07:47
braddrjust following suggestions07:47
=== ajmitch is still waiting to hear what gets sorted out with this one
braddrme too07:47
braddrbut progress has definitly been made07:47
=== braddr reboots
fabbionebraddr: what's the url for the log again?08:39
braddrhttp://www.puremagic.com/~braddr/t2000/boots.txt08:39
fabbionethanks08:39
braddrdrop the file for a blog + a list of all the past files (from a month or so ago)08:40
fabbione?08:40
braddrhttp://www.puremagic.com/~braddr/t2000/08:40
fabbioneoh ok :)08:41
braddrdrivers/block/aoe/aoemain.o -- there's an Age of Empires game embedded in the kernel? :P08:49
fabbionehahah08:49
fabbione-> London09:48
fabbionelater09:48
=== fabbione [n=fabbione@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-ports
=== fabbione [n=fabbione@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-ports
braddr32 cycles of make -j700 / make clean -- no oopses10:09
=== braddr has restarted the loop with -j900

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