[12:43] <marcin_ant> hi all
[12:43] <marcin_ant> guys I need some help
[12:43] <marcin_ant> I would like to know how uploading *.po works in rosetta
[12:45] <marcin_ant> I don't like online interface and would like to download and translate po file then upload..
[12:45] <marcin_ant> will it work?
[12:48] <lifeless> jordi: ^^^
[12:49] <mdke> marcin_ant: yes, it works
[12:50] <marcin_ant> mdke: is there some delay between upload and applying changes?
[12:50] <marcin_ant> mdke: I uploaded but cannot see changes I did..
[12:50] <mdke> marcin_ant: yeah, there is a delay sometimes
[12:51] <mdke> there is a page you can view the status at
[12:51] <mdke> https://launchpad.net/rosetta/imports
[12:53] <marcin_ant> mdke: whoooa 13543 waiting to be imported?
[12:55] <mdke> marcin_ant: that list includes files which have already been imported. Use the filter at the top
[12:56] <marcin_ant> mdke: filter at top doesn't have 'not imported' option
[12:56] <mdke> no, good point
[12:57] <mdke> marcin_ant: apart from that, if you wait, it should be imported quickly, don't worry
[12:57] <marcin_ant> mdke: and I cannot see my upload :(
[12:58] <marcin_ant> mdke: anyway I will wait more
[12:58] <mdke> marcin_ant: it will arrive, don't worry
[12:58] <marcin_ant> mdke: ok
[05:31] <mpt__> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[05:32] <mpt__> It's a lovely Sunday afternoon here in the Edinburgh of the Southern Hemisphere
[08:24] <robitaille> well it seems we cannot connect to the LP server since a few minutes ago
[08:37] <SteveA> i just unstuck it
[08:42] <BHSPitLappy> that was scary.
[08:48] <robitaille> thanks SteveA.   LP seems to be have been quite unstable in the last 24 hours.
[08:49] <SteveA> yes.  we're getting deadlocks.  we're investigating why.
[08:51] <BHSPitLappy> yep... that 502 was real upsetting :P
[08:55] <SteveA> sorry man
[09:22] <BHSPitLappy> no prob
[09:23] <BHSPitLappy> turns out I couldn't even order those Ubuntu CDs I was after, anyways, so it's cool.
[09:23] <BHSPitLappy> :)
[09:35] <glatzor> Is there currently a problem with lp?
[09:35] <glatzor> I want to report a bug and get the following error message:
[09:35] <glatzor> UnicodeEncodeError
[09:35] <glatzor> A server error occurred.
[09:44] <nkbj> Hello
[09:51] <nkbj> Hello
[09:58] <mpt> glatzor, yes, there's a problem with Launchpad, but probably not related to the problem you're having
[09:58] <mpt> glatzor, did the bug get reported after all?
[09:59] <glatzor> no.
[10:01] <glatzor> mpt: I want to file a bug report against ubuntu-docs
[10:01] <glatzor> mpt: by the way do you know how the translation of koffice are handled in rosetta?
[10:02] <glatzor> mpt: there are templates for koffice which is in main, but the upstream translations are in the koffice-18n package that is in universe
[10:02] <glatzor> It seems that the Rosetta translations of koffice aren't used at all
[10:09] <sehute> Hi, Launchpad says UnicodeEncodeError A server error occured.
[10:09] <sehute> This was when I submitted text for translation
[10:09] <sehute> I think it's reproducible, and expected behaviour is to accept the text I wrote
[10:09] <sehute> (just to do the bug-report-dance)
[10:10] <sehute> Any solutions? Is it common? Should I just wait and try again some time later?
[10:12] <sehute> I get this error also in places where I didn't get this error previously, so it's something that has happened very recently.
[10:12] <sehute> I do not think it's my browser.
[10:13] <sehute> (Firefox)
[10:13] <sehute> Well, happy hacking/fixing whoever this might consern.
[10:13] <sehute> See you
[10:30] <mpt> glatzor, sorry, I know very little about how Rosetta does things
[10:33] <glatzor> mpt: thanks anyway. I will wait for carols or Ridell. I hope that this isn't a large issue, but the KDE upstream team is confused and upset.
[10:38] <mpt> glatzor, carlos or Riddell or jordi, I assume
[10:38] <mpt> :-)
[10:41] <lifeless> are you guys seeing this UnicodeEncodeError only on rosetta ?
[10:42] <lifeless> Seveas: do you get an OOPS id on the error page ?
[10:42] <lifeless> erm
[10:42] <lifeless> whomever.
[10:42] <lifeless> glatzor: do you get an OOPS id when you try to submit that bug ?
[10:49] <glatzor> lifeless: since I don't know what a OOPS id, I don't think so :)
[10:50] <glatzor> lifeless: since I don't know what an OOPS id is, I don't think so :)
[10:51] <sivang> hey glatzor 
[10:51] <sivang> morning all
[10:51] <glatzor> hi sivang
[10:51] <glatzor> morning
[10:51] <sivang> mornig , what's up?
[11:11] <jordi> glatzor: hmm, can you file a bug about this?
[11:12] <glatzor> jordi: could you confirm this? I am not sure if I am right
[11:13] <jordi> checking
[11:13] <glatzor> The problem is, that the koffice translation was redone in Rosetta and I want to be sure that this efforts do not conflict with the upstream translation.
[11:13] <glatzor> upstream translated 100%.
[11:14] <glatzor> jordi: furthermore it seems that the koffice templates in Rosetta are still the ones of version 1.4 and not of the current version 1.5
[11:15] <jordi> is there https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/koffice/+pots/koffice/
[11:15] <jordi> ok, so afaict, the translations are being applied
[11:16] <jordi> (if all of them were done in Rosetta, they would be purple)
[11:16] <jordi> re the version of the translations, let's have a look
[11:16] <jordi> ugh, that's true.
[11:16] <jordi> I guess ridell needs to have a look at that
[11:18] <jordi> I filed a bug report
[11:18] <jordi> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/koffice-i18n/+bug/47057
[11:18] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 47057 in koffice-i18n "koffice-i18n version not in sync with koffice" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  
[11:20] <stub> lifeless: I'm messing with Launchpad production
[11:20] <glatzor> jordi: may I put this to urgent?
[11:21] <glatzor> jordi: monday is translation freeze :/
[11:22] <glatzor> jordi: by the way why is koffice-i18n in universe and not main?
[11:26] <jordi> glatzor: not sure
[11:27] <jordi> glatzor: we need ridell here
[11:36] <jordi> I already had time to go to the beach to swim for more than one hour :)
[11:41] <glatzor> jordi: :/ fine. I sit here for two hours and watch the rain.
[11:42] <jordi> glatzor: oops :D
[11:44] <sivang> jordi: you leave by the sea side?
[12:00] <jordi> sivang: yes
[12:00] <jordi> well
[12:00] <jordi> 10 min cycle
[12:02] <sivang> s/leave/live
[12:02] <sivang> jordi: nice
[12:02] <sivang> jordi: like me :-)
[12:02] <sivang> but the beach here is nothing close to it's quality in Spain
[12:06] <jordi> well, Valencia's beach is not spectacular
[12:06] <jordi> no transparent water, if you're thinking something like this
[12:17] <mdke> stuck in London = :-(
[12:21] <sivang> jordi: I was thinking along the lines of Mataro's beach water. I could see through them so nicely :)
[12:22] <sivang> jordi: we have most of the beach here polluted by industrial plants etc, many trash is around the beach . :-(
[12:30] <jordi> yick
[12:31] <sivang> yes
[12:31] <sivang> it's bad as it sounds
[12:31] <sivang> mdke: I though you were germen
[12:32] <mdke> sivang: !!! never say that to an Englishman
[12:38] <aa_> "I thought you were Welsh"
[12:41] <sivang> mdke: oh oops , sorry :-(
[12:41] <sivang> mdke: weren't you once living in germany or something
[12:41] <sivang> ?
[12:41] <sivang> (I think I recall you told me that sometime ago)
[12:42] <mdke> sivang: nope, maybe someone else
[12:49] <lifeless> stub: k
[01:21] <glatzor> jordi: can you point me to a document that explains how the updated translation for dapper will be treated?
[01:21] <glatzor> are the cd images updated? will the installer download the latest version?
[01:22] <cbx33> I'm writing a small app for linux, what are the restrictions on putting such things on LP?
[01:22] <glatzor> cbx33: i think only the code of conduct :)
[01:22] <glatzor> and you have to register
[01:22] <cbx33> both of which I am already
[01:23] <glatzor> I also maintain my personal app in lp https://launchpad.net/products/webboard
[01:24] <cbx33> glatzor, i suppose the size of the app doesn't matter
[01:24] <cbx33> this one is more of a utility
[01:25] <glatzor> I would not claim to call my app a larger one
[01:28] <jordi> glatzor: it would appear in language packs
[01:29] <cbx33> just don't want to get in trouble for putting something on LP that isn't worthy:p
[01:30] <glatzor> jordi: what about the language packs on the shipit cds and the iso images? will the updated translations packs be available via the update repository or do they get into the main ubuntu repo?
[01:32] <jordi> glatzor: language packs get updatd periodicaly
[01:32] <jordi> I don't think the CD images will be updated though
[01:33] <jordi> so you have to install from the cd and then update them
[01:34] <glatzor> do they land in the dapper-updates or the dapper repo?
[01:34] <glatzor> so the live cd will not see any updated translations?
[01:56] <mdke> glatzor: dapper-updates
[01:56] <mdke> I doubt they update the cd images
[01:57] <glatzor> mdke: that is a pity. the kde upstream translators won't be happy :/
[01:59] <mdke> glatzor: well, that's life
[02:37] <mdz> glatzor: no, we currently do not ship updated CD images (there are few language packs available on the CDs anyway due to space constraints)
[02:38] <glatzor> thanks mdz
[02:38] <mdz> glatzor: updated language packs will go into dapper-updates
[02:38] <mdz> so they will be upgraded by default via the periodic update mechanism
[03:34] <moyogo> hi
[03:35] <moyogo> I assigned a bug to the wrong group and I can't assign it back to nobody
[04:05] <Yannig> Hello everybody :)
[04:07] <Yannig> Still no news from Mailman team for the creating of an Occitan mailing-list, I'll have to find and edit every single reference to it in all packages :(
[05:17] <glatzor> mdz: which languages will be on the live cd? I cannot find this information in the wiki
[06:36] <Pixel1983> Problem solved, looks like it didn't really reset my password but just log me in. Doing the reset process again and clicking submit instead of hitting enter worked.
[07:00] <glatzor> Are there any known problem with the import function of po files? We are waiting for days now to get the German translation of gdm and gnome-power-manager in
[07:02] <Yannig> For days?
[07:02] <glatzor> Yannig: yes. 
[07:02] <Yannig> I have to wait about 12 hours
[07:04] <glatzor> That is what a team member said to me.
[07:07] <NERvOus> are there any plans to release malone's source code?
[07:55] <cbx33>  Launchpad could not mirror this branch at 2006-05-28 17:50:03 BST.  The error was: Could not install revisions: pete@ubuntu-20060528162637-0459f15378bbae24
[07:55] <cbx33> what does this mean?
[08:08] <aa_> cbx33: (I believen and I am not a developer or anything) that launchpad cannot (for now) nirror knit branches. This will be remedied soon. I think I ehard (in the next rollout)
[08:08] <aa_> cbx33: still means you can access your code over sftp
[08:09] <aa_> or from the original place it is trying to mirror from
[08:09] <aa_> (that information comes with no warranty)
[08:09] <SteveA> yep, knits should be working on the supermirror sometime early next week
[08:09] <SteveA> the code is done, it just needs rolling out there
[08:11] <cbx33> knits?
[08:11] <cbx33> I'm a n00b to bzr really
[08:11] <SteveA>  #bzr is a good place to ask about it for detailed answers
[08:12] <SteveA> knits and weaves are the back-end data storage formats bzr uses
[08:12] <SteveA> knits is the new format, and bzr works faster and data takes up less space with knits
[08:15] <glatzor> cbx33: do you make progress any with your new product? :)
[08:16] <cbx33> glatzor, yes
[08:16] <cbx33> ah i see
[08:16] <cbx33> it's a product now
[08:16] <cbx33> glatzor, https://launchpad.net/products/gisomount
[08:18] <glatzor> cbx33: which language?
[08:18] <cbx33> en
[08:18] <cbx33> it still needs a README
[08:18] <glatzor> no, programming language :)
[08:20] <cbx33> oh
[08:20] <cbx33> :p
[08:20] <cbx33> python
[08:21] <glatzor> python is fine. :)
[08:40] <Zerlinna> hey there - is it normal that http://launchpad.net/people/nameofuser/ codesofconduct in firefox kills the xserver?
[08:55] <mdke> Zerlinna: no, that would not be normal, as you can probably guess ;)
[08:57] <Zerlinna> mdke ok the question was kind of rhetorical.. better would be: have an idea why it's crashing? I use Kubuntu Dapper (up-to-date) firefox 1.5.0.3
[08:58] <mdke> Zerlinna: no idea. It seems to work ok here. What is the precise url causing the problem?
[08:58] <Zerlinna> http://launchpad.net/people/waeckerlin/ codesofconduct
[08:59] <mdke> Zerlinna: with a space between waeckerlin/ and codesofconduct?
[08:59] <Zerlinna> my log (firefox 2&> log.txt) says
[08:59] <Zerlinna> no with a plus  
[08:59] <Zerlinna> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169  Major opcode:  147  Minor opcode:  3  Resource id:  0x0Failed to open deviceX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169  Major opcode:  147  Minor opcode:  3  Resource id:  0x0Failed to open deviceThe application 'Gecko' lost its connection to the display :0.0;most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyedthe application.
[09:00] <mdke> and the xserver dies when you visit that page?
[09:00] <mdke> that's pretty crazy
[09:00] <Zerlinna> yes instantly
[09:00] <mdke> great bug
[09:01] <mdke> i can't reproduce it here when I go to my homepage/+codesofconduct
[09:01] <Zerlinna> it gives me little purple stars.. and restarts x
[09:01] <mdke> that's so awesome
[09:01] <Zerlinna> it happens only with firefox not with konqueror
[09:01] <mdke> Zerlinna: ever seen it on any other websites?
[09:01] <Zerlinna> I found this "awesome" too
[09:01] <Zerlinna> nope never
[09:01] <mdke> wow
[09:01] <mdke> I guess you'd better file a bug on firefox AND launchpad
[09:02] <Zerlinna> I think I'll do this :)
[09:02] <mdke> assuming you can do so without it crashing your xserver
[09:02] <Zerlinna> I think I should make a little movie...I've never seen such a thing before... !
[09:03] <Zerlinna> the rest of launchpad worked fine (by now )
[09:03] <Zerlinna> except that I couldnt sign the coc 1.0.1 - it always told me I changed the text (which I didnt)
[09:03] <Zerlinna> so I signed the first version
[09:04] <mdke> yeah, that's a well known bug
[09:04] <Zerlinna> ah ok that's fine then
[09:04] <mdke> it has existed since the coc 1.0.1 was added, I think, and still not fixed
[09:04] <Zerlinna> ok first version is ok for me too
[09:05] <ssam> Zerlinna, are you using the nvidia driver?
[09:05] <Zerlinna> ssam yes I am
[09:05] <ssam> i bet it does not crash with the nv driver
[09:06] <Zerlinna> ssam it's the one from the repos nvidia-glx
[09:06] <ssam> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-glx/+bug/46034
[09:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 46034 in nvidia-glx "Page crashes X" [Major,Needs info]  
[09:07] <Zerlinna> ah ok
[09:07] <mdke> does that do it too?
[09:08] <Zerlinna> If I try it out now I'll quit IRC ;)
[09:08] <mdke> ah
[09:08] <Zerlinna> so if I'm away you'll know...
[09:09] <ssam> Zerlinna, good luck
[09:09] <Zerlinna> nope I can access the given site without any problem
[09:10] <Zerlinna> bizarre... 
[09:10] <mdke> it's likely to be something like that though I suppose
[09:10] <Zerlinna> mdke I think that too.. so I'll add another comment to the bug
[09:14] <ssam> Zerlinna, and set it to confirmed aswell please
[09:15] <mdke> well, it's not the same bug, right?
[09:15] <mdke> you can't reproduce that one
[09:15] <Zerlinna> mdke good question
[09:15] <mdke> maybe another bug is appropriate
[09:15] <Zerlinna> hm
[09:15] <mdke> see if with the "nv" driver it still happens
[09:15] <ssam> hmm
[09:19] <Zerlinna> Ok I'll try this out.. - I just have to change my xorg.conf right?
[09:20] <mdke> i think so
[09:20] <Zerlinna> so I just restart x then I'll be back in a few ... 
[09:22] <Zerlinna> re :)
[09:23] <Zerlinna> mdke ssam you were right.. without nvidia there's no crashing
[09:23] <Zerlinna> so I think it must be the same bug..
[09:24] <Zerlinna> of course I forgot to bookmark the link ssam could you paste it again? thx
[09:24] <ssam> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-glx/+bug/46034
[09:24] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 46034 in nvidia-glx "Page crashes X" [Major,Needs info]  
[09:24] <Zerlinna> thank you :)
[09:25] <ssam> np
[09:35] <cbx33> SteveA, got a question about knits and weaves
[09:35] <cbx33> is it possible to convert back to weaves?
[09:35] <cbx33> or indeed to create it in weaves
[09:35] <SteveA> it is, but it is a very slow operation
[09:35] <SteveA> converting from weaves to knits is quite quick
[09:36] <cbx33> SteveA, the repo is tiny
[09:36] <cbx33> how long did you say till LP will accept knits
[09:51] <SteveA> cbx33: a few days
[10:04] <pixelgirl> Hi
[10:48] <pixelgirl> sabdf1: ping
[10:49] <pixelgirl> sabdfl: ping
[10:49] <LarstiQ> is sabdfl even awake at this time?
[10:50] <pixelgirl> dunno ;)
[10:50] <LarstiQ> cbx33: it is doable if you need to, for interoperating with 0.7 perhaps?
[10:51] <cbx33> LarstiQ, It's ok...i can wait :p
[10:51] <mdke> one never knows when sabdfl is awake ;) He's marked as away though
[10:51] <pixelgirl> maybe that's default ;)
[11:18] <lifeless> morning
[11:19] <LarstiQ> moin