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troy_swho lives?12:30
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troy_shello who12:36
Who_hiya12:42
Who_you know I didn't even know there was an edubuntu-art team!12:43
troy_sexactly!12:46
troy_si just sent off to their admin12:46
troy_si am trying to coordinate a little while i have some time off.12:46
troy_sand before i head off to paris.12:46
troy_sit would be appreciated if people would post their opinions on the direction to the mailing list.12:47
troy_swho, give the launchpad site a test, billy says it is broken, but it works fine for me.12:47
troy_sif it works for you, we can assume it works.12:48
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Who_I'm just drafting an email to the group suggesting that kind of thing should be discussed first...12:50
Who_I don't know that we needed another group, though I'm glad you took the inititive to do _something_!12:51
Who_especially things like who has what role on Launchpad...12:51
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bersacetroy_s: you go to paris ?12:59
bersacei live in paris12:59
Who_Where in Paris? I was there a few weeks ago01:03
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bersaceWho_: Paris XII01:12
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bersacenear Gare de Lyon01:13
bersaceBercy01:13
bersaceBibliothque Franois Mitterand01:13
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Who_Ahh, that helps :) My girlfriend and I went to a film at MK2, someome told us it had 'sofas' but we were a little underwhelmed01:27
Who_Anyone seen this bug - it is hilarious01:38
Who_https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/4524101:38
troy_shello01:52
troy_syes i am going to paris01:52
troy_ssorry guys, i was across the street01:52
troy_sanything been happening?01:52
troy_smore insanity on the mailing list?01:52
Who_have a look :)01:53
Who_we got our first few bugs assigned to us01:53
troy_soh lord that is hilarious01:53
troy_sreally?01:53
troy_soh MAN that is hilarious.01:54
Who_yea, I caouldn't berlieve it!01:55
Who_I'm just attempting a new close icon01:55
Who_but Inkscape keeps crashing!01:56
Who_in fact, wouldn't it just be better to revert the close icon?01:57
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Who_Anyone got any optinions on the close icon?02:09
troy_shey who02:09
troy_sare you interested in sharing the volume i would expect?02:10
troy_scuz we have admins02:10
troy_sand i basically stuck everyone who had the ability to 02:10
troy_ssign up to the list on the admins sheet02:10
troy_si think it is easier if everyone shares...02:10
troy_sanyways...02:10
troy_sneed to add a task to launchpad02:10
troy_shenrik has a request.02:10
troy_shey et02:13
troy_si think we should add it as a specification with a link to the wiki02:13
troy_si just put an anchor in there.02:13
Who_am I missing something - what should we add as a specification?02:17
Who_and what is 'sharing the volume you would expect'?02:17
Who_ahh, yea, I got you :)02:19
Who_I tried an I couldn't think of anything that fitted better there - the only thing that looked vaugely ok was a 'rising' logo (like a rising sun) that you could see half of...02:19
troy_si added one02:28
troy_scheck the laucnchpat02:28
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Who_how long did it take?02:31
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troy_snot long02:42
troy_sabout three seonds02:42
troy_swe need to spread the word02:42
troy_sat least, try to get the edubuntu folks on board too as they apparently create.02:43
bersacetroy_s: what do you think about viper550 Frozen theme ?02:45
troy_shaven't looked at it... i think it is far far far down the list to be evaluating themes, but at least he is accomplishing something.02:47
troy_sonly glanced at it.02:47
troy_si am personally fond of rounded windows.02:47
troy_shey bersace02:47
bersaceyep ?02:47
troy_scan you figure out how to mail everyone in the list?02:47
troy_son the ubuntu-artwork 02:47
troy_steam listing?02:47
bersacedon't understand what you want ?02:48
troy_sit would be useful to point everyone to new tasks (listed under specifications)02:48
troy_swell have a peep02:48
troy_si put the henrik task02:48
troy_sinto the wiki02:48
bersacei read02:48
troy_sand posted it as a feature request spec (as close as it is useful right now)02:48
bersacei may do something monday02:48
troy_sbut it didn't notify the team yet...02:48
bersace(here, it's sunder 2 am)02:48
troy_swhich means that people don't know that a task needs attacking.02:48
bersacesunday02:48
troy_slaf.02:48
troy_syah02:48
troy_sbut all i want to know is that the launchpad system is working02:49
troy_sapparently bugs work fine :)02:49
troy_sbut we need to know when someone dumps a task02:49
bersacedid you saw ubuntu-artwork hackergotchi ?02:49
troy_s???02:50
troy_sno02:50
troy_swhat?02:50
bersacethe big logo02:52
bersaceon lp/u-a02:52
bersacehttps://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-artwork02:52
troy_soh yah02:52
troy_sits cute.02:52
bersaceas you saw at /People, i can do web artwork02:53
bersacedid you read WideTheme ?02:53
troy_syep02:53
bersacehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Content/WideThemeDraft02:53
bersacethanks for renaming02:54
bersacei forgot the "Web design" in the distributor part02:54
bersaceand henrik give us the proof that this is part of our work :)02:54
bersaceadded02:55
bersacelet's have a rest02:56
bersacesee you monday02:56
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troy_sheyas mad03:57
Madpilothi troy_s 03:57
troy_smoved your draft to contents03:58
troy_shope you don't mind too much03:58
troy_si think et had a go at it.03:58
troy_ssomeone else offer henrik a few options?04:17
Madpilotmy draft of what?04:17
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Who_troy_s: How do I attach something to the wiki?04:43
MadpilotWho_, look at the dropdown menu by the "Edit" link04:45
Madpilottop of every page04:45
Who_thankee04:45
Who_seems weird that menu isn't there when you're editing - unless I'm missing it  (happened once, can happen again!)04:46
MadpilotI don't think it is. You've got to save your current edit to attach an image.04:47
Madpilotthen edit again to actually get your image (or the link to it) visible.04:47
Who_yea, a little convoluted - but seems to work ok04:47
troy_sit is at least a step04:55
troy_show's everyone?04:55
troy_sjabber server been up and down all day... driving me nuts.04:55
troy_s19:43:59) Who_: troy_s: How do I attach something to the wiki?04:55
troy_sYou can also 04:55
troy_stype04:55
troy_sattachment:name_whatever.blah04:55
troy_sand it will give you a link to attach stuffs.04:55
Who_nice04:56
Madpilotnice trick - thanks, troy_s 04:56
troy_si didn't know there was an edit command :)04:56
troy_slaf.04:56
troy_swell you learn something every day04:56
troy_sis that the image henrik wants???04:56
troy_sit isn't terribly clear... but it would be nice if everyone could contribute something04:57
troy_si'm sure mich will...04:57
Who_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Content/Sandbox05:02
Who_I have updated mine quite a bit05:03
Who_thoughts?05:03
Madpilotwhat are these tabs for? The main website?05:05
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Who_indeed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Tasks05:07
Madpilotah, for the front page. Cool.05:09
troy_sJust updated05:09
troy_ssomeone posted a bug to the group05:09
Who_which bug? the close button one?05:10
Who_cos that isn't really us who can solve it05:10
troy_sdid you read the 05:13
troy_scomments?05:13
Madpiloton the sandbox page, who did the righthand tab?05:14
Madpilotwe're not supposed to be rotating the Ubuntu logo as was done there, just fyi05:15
troy_s???05:15
troy_swhere05:15
Madpilothttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Content/Sandbox - righthand of the two tab images05:16
troy_sahh i see your point05:16
troy_syou had best leave a comment mad05:16
troy_si think who is still here05:16
Who_oh, really05:17
Who_thanks05:17
Who_I'm just about to go to bed - the birds have started singing!05:17
Who_it really looks worse otherwise. No matter, I'll submit another05:18
Madpilotcomment left05:18
troy_sthanks mad05:19
troy_syou running dapper mad?05:19
Madpilotnot yet05:20
Madpilotmight upgrade on Monday, to beat the massive rush on the servers on the 1st05:20
troy_syah...05:20
troy_scuz the box icon is cropped05:20
troy_sbut i can't realistically see how scaling it wouldn't fix it.05:20
Who_box icon?05:23
troy_syah its the close box icon05:24
troy_sfor tabs05:24
troy_sin gaim05:24
troy_sepiphany05:24
troy_setc.05:24
troy_sit incorrectly gets cropped05:24
Who_yea, I would have called it the close icon ;)05:28
Who_And imho it isn't very nice either!05:28
Who_I think if they want to orangify it then they should use trans bg with orange cross...05:29
Who_or perhaps they just need to work out the sizing. 05:29
Who_right.bed for me. talk soon05:30
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DShepherdhey07:09
DShepherd:-)07:09
troy_sgreetings07:18
DShepherdi have a query about the defualt ubuntu theme..07:20
DShepherdare you the guys responsible for the human theme?07:20
troy_sprobably want to direct it to the mailing list.07:20
troy_sthat seems to be the most appropriate place currently.07:20
DShepherdok07:21
troy_syou know where to find it eh?07:21
DShepherdmailing list please :-)07:21
DShepherdi could dig..07:21
troy_swiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam07:21
troy_stry that07:21
DShepherdor you could tell me07:21
troy_shopefully it is clear.07:21
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DShepherdok07:22
DShepherdtroy_s: you running dapper? with the ubuntu default theme?07:23
troy_syep07:25
troy_sslightly modified bars07:25
troy_sbut yah07:25
DShepherdhow u liking the orange close icon?07:26
troy_swhat's up?07:26
DShepherdin gedit07:26
DShepherdand gaim07:26
troy_syep07:29
troy_slet me guess07:29
troy_sthe close down boxes07:29
troy_sthe orange x thing07:29
troy_s?07:29
troy_slaf... sorry, scrolled back and saw it.07:30
troy_sit's been listed as a bug07:30
troy_si suspect someone will scale it appropriately.07:30
troy_sor alter it back.07:30
troy_sthere is some issue between the image size and the proper drawing in gtk07:30
DShepherdoh thank the Heavens..07:34
DShepherdcause i was getting worried07:34
troy_sbut don't take my word for it.07:38
troy_si think it needs to be addressed07:38
troy_slocating the exact folks is a bit tricky...07:38
troy_sgtk bug might be a good start.07:38
DShepherdtroy_s: ok07:40
DShepherdsomeone has to see it.. its so obvious.. and so not kool.07:41
DShepherdubuntu has to be kool.. my eyes depend on it07:41
DShepherds/on/upon07:41
troy_syep.  agree07:47
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msikmaHey guys10:34
msikmaThe mailing list sure has become a little difficult to read overnight. Lots of people talking about all kinds of things, v550 again working on a new theme, website artwork requests...10:35
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seb27842I got some questions about the Ubuntu Palette03:24
seb27842maybe someone here could help me03:24
lapotry to ask04:05
klepasmoin04:13
lapociao klepas, how do you do?04:13
klepasah, alright04:13
klepasi'll be right back04:13
seb27842What are the blue and the green colours on the palette for?04:17
seb27842https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-palette.png04:18
lapofor blue and green stuff? :-)04:21
seb27842and that is04:21
seb27842good answer :)04:22
seb27842It's just that I have not seen much blue and green stuff in ubuntu or at the webpage04:23
klepasthe colour palette is not restricted to the warm brown and orange tones04:23
klepaswell look at the destkop :)04:23
klepasthere is some blue and gree within the icons and so forth04:23
klepasfor example the Applications menu04:25
klepasicons such as Accessability or Sound and Video feature prominent amounts of blue04:26
troy_sgreetz all04:41
troy_shey klepas04:42
troy_scan you document that at the wiki in short form?04:42
troy_sperhaps under agenda / dapper opinions04:42
klepasnot at the moment04:46
klepasi prefer not to touch the wiki or launchpad until post dapper04:47
troy_sok.   that's unfortunate.04:47
klepaswith the current level of chaos i am going to wait until things get organised04:48
troy_swell the organization isn't going to manifest out of the ether.04:50
troy_sand thus far, there hasn't been many strides made to push things forwards.  i would suggest that if everyone picked up a small portion of the work, things can get back on track.04:51
klepaspost dapper04:51
troy_si have contacted henrik and am working to resolve a few issues04:51
klepaswe will meet and discuss this04:51
troy_sthe need for cohesive artwork team contribution goes on.04:52
troy_sand a meeting is fine, but it needs to be organized.  launchpad's joel hasn't responded to the poll request by mark, so i suggest that everyone else needs to pick up the slack.04:52
seb27842"there is some blue and gree within the icons and so fort" yes there is ;)05:01
seb27842What is highlight, base, medium, accent, toner and shadow?05:02
seb27842What are they used for?05:06
klepasfor example, highlights are the colours used for the glassy effects on the reflective properties of icons05:09
klepasshades are... shades05:09
klepasand so forth :)05:09
seb27842Maybe you could explain medium, accent and toner to me. I tried to look up accent in a dictionary but couldn't find the right definition :)05:12
troy_sClarity certain is required.05:14
seb27842Were you talking to me?05:17
troy_sseb:  Yes I think we need to get some more specifics regarding that rather outdated official artwork guide.05:19
seb27842ok, but the color palette, is it outdated?05:20
troy_sWell it is still listed as the 'official'.05:24
troy_sSo as a community, we can only assume such.05:24
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seb27842I still need to know what medium, accent and toner is?05:34
klepasseb27842: which page are you getting this from? :)05:36
seb27842https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-palette.png05:41
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Firebird8why is this channel not registered...07:26
Firebird8http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4461/rythm5uv.png <rythm box icon07:27
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Firebird8hello07:28
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troy_sgreetz firebird07:48
troy_ssorry... not exactly at the box.07:49
Firebird8hm?07:49
Firebird8no no07:49
Firebird8just for fun07:49
troy_sYou following the mailing list?07:50
Firebird8yea07:50
troy_sI suspect that a meeting is to happen shortly, if all the bickering can subside.07:50
Firebird8mail listings are the bug reports?07:50
Firebird8what will happen to the ubuntu wiki artwork team?07:51
troy_snothing 07:51
troy_si just hope that everyone who can participate intermittently will 07:52
troy_smanifest07:52
troy_sthere is a lot of information that is outdated etc07:52
troy_sand it will need some attention07:52
Firebird8where is the human window border files kept07:57
troy_swindow borders are the domain of metacity i believe...07:57
troy_syou can tweak using widget factory07:57
Firebird8widget factory...07:57
troy_swww.gnome-look.org has a pretty good repository07:57
troy_syep07:57
troy_scheck the link in teh wiki that etienne established07:58
troy_sit shows widget factory at work07:58
troy_sand gnome-look should help you get it compiled.07:58
Firebird8ive seen it07:58
Firebird8it reqiures compiling07:58
troy_sbecause I don't believe it is in the repos.07:58
Firebird8:|07:58
troy_salthough it is probably somewehre07:58
troy_scompiling is no big deal07:58
troy_syou will enjoy it once you get your way around it.07:58
Firebird8last time i tried it failed07:58
troy_syou will need build-essential07:58
Firebird8got it07:58
troy_syah... i'd step you thru it but i am out the door07:58
troy_slet me see if i can find you alink07:58
Firebird8so ubuntu is set to realease July 1st07:59
troy_sgenerally though,07:59
troy_swhen you engage in compiling08:00
troy_sthe easiest thing is to try a08:00
troy_s./configure08:00
troy_smake08:00
troy_smake install08:00
troy_swhen make fails,08:00
troy_sit is usually because you are missing a dependency08:00
troy_sand HOPEFULLY that depend is in the repository08:00
troy_sand will just require adding08:00
troy_sdependency-dev08:00
Firebird8http://www.ubuntu.com/include/testing/flight5/ubuntulooks-big.png < that thing08:00
troy_sis the title08:00
troy_syup08:00
Firebird8mmm no link08:01
troy_shttp://www.stellingwerff.com/?p=908:01
troy_stry there...08:01
Firebird8found it08:01
troy_sand start with your first error08:01
troy_swork your way through compiling error by erry08:01
troy_si'll offer you help when i am back bro.08:02
troy_sout for a while...08:02
troy_stake care.08:02
Firebird8makeing08:03
Firebird8bye08:03
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Firebird8theres a slight problem with the network connection monitor10:04
Firebird8icon10:04
msikmaThere is?10:06
msikmaWhat kind of problem?10:06
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