troy_s | who lives? | 12:30 |
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troy_s | hello who | 12:36 |
Who_ | hiya | 12:42 |
Who_ | you know I didn't even know there was an edubuntu-art team! | 12:43 |
troy_s | exactly! | 12:46 |
troy_s | i just sent off to their admin | 12:46 |
troy_s | i am trying to coordinate a little while i have some time off. | 12:46 |
troy_s | and before i head off to paris. | 12:46 |
troy_s | it would be appreciated if people would post their opinions on the direction to the mailing list. | 12:47 |
troy_s | who, give the launchpad site a test, billy says it is broken, but it works fine for me. | 12:47 |
troy_s | if it works for you, we can assume it works. | 12:48 |
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Who_ | I'm just drafting an email to the group suggesting that kind of thing should be discussed first... | 12:50 |
Who_ | I don't know that we needed another group, though I'm glad you took the inititive to do _something_! | 12:51 |
Who_ | especially things like who has what role on Launchpad... | 12:51 |
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bersace | troy_s: you go to paris ? | 12:59 |
bersace | i live in paris | 12:59 |
Who_ | Where in Paris? I was there a few weeks ago | 01:03 |
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bersace | Who_: Paris XII | 01:12 |
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bersace | near Gare de Lyon | 01:13 |
bersace | Bercy | 01:13 |
bersace | Bibliothque Franois Mitterand | 01:13 |
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Who_ | Ahh, that helps :) My girlfriend and I went to a film at MK2, someome told us it had 'sofas' but we were a little underwhelmed | 01:27 |
Who_ | Anyone seen this bug - it is hilarious | 01:38 |
Who_ | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/45241 | 01:38 |
troy_s | hello | 01:52 |
troy_s | yes i am going to paris | 01:52 |
troy_s | sorry guys, i was across the street | 01:52 |
troy_s | anything been happening? | 01:52 |
troy_s | more insanity on the mailing list? | 01:52 |
Who_ | have a look :) | 01:53 |
Who_ | we got our first few bugs assigned to us | 01:53 |
troy_s | oh lord that is hilarious | 01:53 |
troy_s | really? | 01:53 |
troy_s | oh MAN that is hilarious. | 01:54 |
Who_ | yea, I caouldn't berlieve it! | 01:55 |
Who_ | I'm just attempting a new close icon | 01:55 |
Who_ | but Inkscape keeps crashing! | 01:56 |
Who_ | in fact, wouldn't it just be better to revert the close icon? | 01:57 |
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Who_ | Anyone got any optinions on the close icon? | 02:09 |
troy_s | hey who | 02:09 |
troy_s | are you interested in sharing the volume i would expect? | 02:10 |
troy_s | cuz we have admins | 02:10 |
troy_s | and i basically stuck everyone who had the ability to | 02:10 |
troy_s | sign up to the list on the admins sheet | 02:10 |
troy_s | i think it is easier if everyone shares... | 02:10 |
troy_s | anyways... | 02:10 |
troy_s | need to add a task to launchpad | 02:10 |
troy_s | henrik has a request. | 02:10 |
troy_s | hey et | 02:13 |
troy_s | i think we should add it as a specification with a link to the wiki | 02:13 |
troy_s | i just put an anchor in there. | 02:13 |
Who_ | am I missing something - what should we add as a specification? | 02:17 |
Who_ | and what is 'sharing the volume you would expect'? | 02:17 |
Who_ | ahh, yea, I got you :) | 02:19 |
Who_ | I tried an I couldn't think of anything that fitted better there - the only thing that looked vaugely ok was a 'rising' logo (like a rising sun) that you could see half of... | 02:19 |
troy_s | i added one | 02:28 |
troy_s | check the laucnchpat | 02:28 |
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Who_ | how long did it take? | 02:31 |
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troy_s | not long | 02:42 |
troy_s | about three seonds | 02:42 |
troy_s | we need to spread the word | 02:42 |
troy_s | at least, try to get the edubuntu folks on board too as they apparently create. | 02:43 |
bersace | troy_s: what do you think about viper550 Frozen theme ? | 02:45 |
troy_s | haven't looked at it... i think it is far far far down the list to be evaluating themes, but at least he is accomplishing something. | 02:47 |
troy_s | only glanced at it. | 02:47 |
troy_s | i am personally fond of rounded windows. | 02:47 |
troy_s | hey bersace | 02:47 |
bersace | yep ? | 02:47 |
troy_s | can you figure out how to mail everyone in the list? | 02:47 |
troy_s | on the ubuntu-artwork | 02:47 |
troy_s | team listing? | 02:47 |
bersace | don't understand what you want ? | 02:48 |
troy_s | it would be useful to point everyone to new tasks (listed under specifications) | 02:48 |
troy_s | well have a peep | 02:48 |
troy_s | i put the henrik task | 02:48 |
troy_s | into the wiki | 02:48 |
bersace | i read | 02:48 |
troy_s | and posted it as a feature request spec (as close as it is useful right now) | 02:48 |
bersace | i may do something monday | 02:48 |
troy_s | but it didn't notify the team yet... | 02:48 |
bersace | (here, it's sunder 2 am) | 02:48 |
troy_s | which means that people don't know that a task needs attacking. | 02:48 |
bersace | sunday | 02:48 |
troy_s | laf. | 02:48 |
troy_s | yah | 02:48 |
troy_s | but all i want to know is that the launchpad system is working | 02:49 |
troy_s | apparently bugs work fine :) | 02:49 |
troy_s | but we need to know when someone dumps a task | 02:49 |
bersace | did you saw ubuntu-artwork hackergotchi ? | 02:49 |
troy_s | ??? | 02:50 |
troy_s | no | 02:50 |
troy_s | what? | 02:50 |
bersace | the big logo | 02:52 |
bersace | on lp/u-a | 02:52 |
bersace | https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-artwork | 02:52 |
troy_s | oh yah | 02:52 |
troy_s | its cute. | 02:52 |
bersace | as you saw at /People, i can do web artwork | 02:53 |
bersace | did you read WideTheme ? | 02:53 |
troy_s | yep | 02:53 |
bersace | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Content/WideThemeDraft | 02:53 |
bersace | thanks for renaming | 02:54 |
bersace | i forgot the "Web design" in the distributor part | 02:54 |
bersace | and henrik give us the proof that this is part of our work :) | 02:54 |
bersace | added | 02:55 |
bersace | let's have a rest | 02:56 |
bersace | see you monday | 02:56 |
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troy_s | heyas mad | 03:57 |
Madpilot | hi troy_s | 03:57 |
troy_s | moved your draft to contents | 03:58 |
troy_s | hope you don't mind too much | 03:58 |
troy_s | i think et had a go at it. | 03:58 |
troy_s | someone else offer henrik a few options? | 04:17 |
Madpilot | my draft of what? | 04:17 |
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Who_ | troy_s: How do I attach something to the wiki? | 04:43 |
Madpilot | Who_, look at the dropdown menu by the "Edit" link | 04:45 |
Madpilot | top of every page | 04:45 |
Who_ | thankee | 04:45 |
Who_ | seems weird that menu isn't there when you're editing - unless I'm missing it (happened once, can happen again!) | 04:46 |
Madpilot | I don't think it is. You've got to save your current edit to attach an image. | 04:47 |
Madpilot | then edit again to actually get your image (or the link to it) visible. | 04:47 |
Who_ | yea, a little convoluted - but seems to work ok | 04:47 |
troy_s | it is at least a step | 04:55 |
troy_s | how's everyone? | 04:55 |
troy_s | jabber server been up and down all day... driving me nuts. | 04:55 |
troy_s | 19:43:59) Who_: troy_s: How do I attach something to the wiki? | 04:55 |
troy_s | You can also | 04:55 |
troy_s | type | 04:55 |
troy_s | attachment:name_whatever.blah | 04:55 |
troy_s | and it will give you a link to attach stuffs. | 04:55 |
Who_ | nice | 04:56 |
Madpilot | nice trick - thanks, troy_s | 04:56 |
troy_s | i didn't know there was an edit command :) | 04:56 |
troy_s | laf. | 04:56 |
troy_s | well you learn something every day | 04:56 |
troy_s | is that the image henrik wants??? | 04:56 |
troy_s | it isn't terribly clear... but it would be nice if everyone could contribute something | 04:57 |
troy_s | i'm sure mich will... | 04:57 |
Who_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Content/Sandbox | 05:02 |
Who_ | I have updated mine quite a bit | 05:03 |
Who_ | thoughts? | 05:03 |
Madpilot | what are these tabs for? The main website? | 05:05 |
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Who_ | indeed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Tasks | 05:07 |
Madpilot | ah, for the front page. Cool. | 05:09 |
troy_s | Just updated | 05:09 |
troy_s | someone posted a bug to the group | 05:09 |
Who_ | which bug? the close button one? | 05:10 |
Who_ | cos that isn't really us who can solve it | 05:10 |
troy_s | did you read the | 05:13 |
troy_s | comments? | 05:13 |
Madpilot | on the sandbox page, who did the righthand tab? | 05:14 |
Madpilot | we're not supposed to be rotating the Ubuntu logo as was done there, just fyi | 05:15 |
troy_s | ??? | 05:15 |
troy_s | where | 05:15 |
Madpilot | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Content/Sandbox - righthand of the two tab images | 05:16 |
troy_s | ahh i see your point | 05:16 |
troy_s | you had best leave a comment mad | 05:16 |
troy_s | i think who is still here | 05:16 |
Who_ | oh, really | 05:17 |
Who_ | thanks | 05:17 |
Who_ | I'm just about to go to bed - the birds have started singing! | 05:17 |
Who_ | it really looks worse otherwise. No matter, I'll submit another | 05:18 |
Madpilot | comment left | 05:18 |
troy_s | thanks mad | 05:19 |
troy_s | you running dapper mad? | 05:19 |
Madpilot | not yet | 05:20 |
Madpilot | might upgrade on Monday, to beat the massive rush on the servers on the 1st | 05:20 |
troy_s | yah... | 05:20 |
troy_s | cuz the box icon is cropped | 05:20 |
troy_s | but i can't realistically see how scaling it wouldn't fix it. | 05:20 |
Who_ | box icon? | 05:23 |
troy_s | yah its the close box icon | 05:24 |
troy_s | for tabs | 05:24 |
troy_s | in gaim | 05:24 |
troy_s | epiphany | 05:24 |
troy_s | etc. | 05:24 |
troy_s | it incorrectly gets cropped | 05:24 |
Who_ | yea, I would have called it the close icon ;) | 05:28 |
Who_ | And imho it isn't very nice either! | 05:28 |
Who_ | I think if they want to orangify it then they should use trans bg with orange cross... | 05:29 |
Who_ | or perhaps they just need to work out the sizing. | 05:29 |
Who_ | right.bed for me. talk soon | 05:30 |
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DShepherd | hey | 07:09 |
DShepherd | :-) | 07:09 |
troy_s | greetings | 07:18 |
DShepherd | i have a query about the defualt ubuntu theme.. | 07:20 |
DShepherd | are you the guys responsible for the human theme? | 07:20 |
troy_s | probably want to direct it to the mailing list. | 07:20 |
troy_s | that seems to be the most appropriate place currently. | 07:20 |
DShepherd | ok | 07:21 |
troy_s | you know where to find it eh? | 07:21 |
DShepherd | mailing list please :-) | 07:21 |
DShepherd | i could dig.. | 07:21 |
troy_s | wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam | 07:21 |
troy_s | try that | 07:21 |
DShepherd | or you could tell me | 07:21 |
troy_s | hopefully it is clear. | 07:21 |
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DShepherd | ok | 07:22 |
DShepherd | troy_s: you running dapper? with the ubuntu default theme? | 07:23 |
troy_s | yep | 07:25 |
troy_s | slightly modified bars | 07:25 |
troy_s | but yah | 07:25 |
DShepherd | how u liking the orange close icon? | 07:26 |
troy_s | what's up? | 07:26 |
DShepherd | in gedit | 07:26 |
DShepherd | and gaim | 07:26 |
troy_s | yep | 07:29 |
troy_s | let me guess | 07:29 |
troy_s | the close down boxes | 07:29 |
troy_s | the orange x thing | 07:29 |
troy_s | ? | 07:29 |
troy_s | laf... sorry, scrolled back and saw it. | 07:30 |
troy_s | it's been listed as a bug | 07:30 |
troy_s | i suspect someone will scale it appropriately. | 07:30 |
troy_s | or alter it back. | 07:30 |
troy_s | there is some issue between the image size and the proper drawing in gtk | 07:30 |
DShepherd | oh thank the Heavens.. | 07:34 |
DShepherd | cause i was getting worried | 07:34 |
troy_s | but don't take my word for it. | 07:38 |
troy_s | i think it needs to be addressed | 07:38 |
troy_s | locating the exact folks is a bit tricky... | 07:38 |
troy_s | gtk bug might be a good start. | 07:38 |
DShepherd | troy_s: ok | 07:40 |
DShepherd | someone has to see it.. its so obvious.. and so not kool. | 07:41 |
DShepherd | ubuntu has to be kool.. my eyes depend on it | 07:41 |
DShepherd | s/on/upon | 07:41 |
troy_s | yep. agree | 07:47 |
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msikma | Hey guys | 10:34 |
msikma | The mailing list sure has become a little difficult to read overnight. Lots of people talking about all kinds of things, v550 again working on a new theme, website artwork requests... | 10:35 |
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seb27842 | I got some questions about the Ubuntu Palette | 03:24 |
seb27842 | maybe someone here could help me | 03:24 |
lapo | try to ask | 04:05 |
klepas | moin | 04:13 |
lapo | ciao klepas, how do you do? | 04:13 |
klepas | ah, alright | 04:13 |
klepas | i'll be right back | 04:13 |
seb27842 | What are the blue and the green colours on the palette for? | 04:17 |
seb27842 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-palette.png | 04:18 |
lapo | for blue and green stuff? :-) | 04:21 |
seb27842 | and that is | 04:21 |
seb27842 | good answer :) | 04:22 |
seb27842 | It's just that I have not seen much blue and green stuff in ubuntu or at the webpage | 04:23 |
klepas | the colour palette is not restricted to the warm brown and orange tones | 04:23 |
klepas | well look at the destkop :) | 04:23 |
klepas | there is some blue and gree within the icons and so forth | 04:23 |
klepas | for example the Applications menu | 04:25 |
klepas | icons such as Accessability or Sound and Video feature prominent amounts of blue | 04:26 |
troy_s | greetz all | 04:41 |
troy_s | hey klepas | 04:42 |
troy_s | can you document that at the wiki in short form? | 04:42 |
troy_s | perhaps under agenda / dapper opinions | 04:42 |
klepas | not at the moment | 04:46 |
klepas | i prefer not to touch the wiki or launchpad until post dapper | 04:47 |
troy_s | ok. that's unfortunate. | 04:47 |
klepas | with the current level of chaos i am going to wait until things get organised | 04:48 |
troy_s | well the organization isn't going to manifest out of the ether. | 04:50 |
troy_s | and thus far, there hasn't been many strides made to push things forwards. i would suggest that if everyone picked up a small portion of the work, things can get back on track. | 04:51 |
klepas | post dapper | 04:51 |
troy_s | i have contacted henrik and am working to resolve a few issues | 04:51 |
klepas | we will meet and discuss this | 04:51 |
troy_s | the need for cohesive artwork team contribution goes on. | 04:52 |
troy_s | and a meeting is fine, but it needs to be organized. launchpad's joel hasn't responded to the poll request by mark, so i suggest that everyone else needs to pick up the slack. | 04:52 |
seb27842 | "there is some blue and gree within the icons and so fort" yes there is ;) | 05:01 |
seb27842 | What is highlight, base, medium, accent, toner and shadow? | 05:02 |
seb27842 | What are they used for? | 05:06 |
klepas | for example, highlights are the colours used for the glassy effects on the reflective properties of icons | 05:09 |
klepas | shades are... shades | 05:09 |
klepas | and so forth :) | 05:09 |
seb27842 | Maybe you could explain medium, accent and toner to me. I tried to look up accent in a dictionary but couldn't find the right definition :) | 05:12 |
troy_s | Clarity certain is required. | 05:14 |
seb27842 | Were you talking to me? | 05:17 |
troy_s | seb: Yes I think we need to get some more specifics regarding that rather outdated official artwork guide. | 05:19 |
seb27842 | ok, but the color palette, is it outdated? | 05:20 |
troy_s | Well it is still listed as the 'official'. | 05:24 |
troy_s | So as a community, we can only assume such. | 05:24 |
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seb27842 | I still need to know what medium, accent and toner is? | 05:34 |
klepas | seb27842: which page are you getting this from? :) | 05:36 |
seb27842 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-palette.png | 05:41 |
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Firebird8 | why is this channel not registered... | 07:26 |
Firebird8 | http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4461/rythm5uv.png <rythm box icon | 07:27 |
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Firebird8 | hello | 07:28 |
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troy_s | greetz firebird | 07:48 |
troy_s | sorry... not exactly at the box. | 07:49 |
Firebird8 | hm? | 07:49 |
Firebird8 | no no | 07:49 |
Firebird8 | just for fun | 07:49 |
troy_s | You following the mailing list? | 07:50 |
Firebird8 | yea | 07:50 |
troy_s | I suspect that a meeting is to happen shortly, if all the bickering can subside. | 07:50 |
Firebird8 | mail listings are the bug reports? | 07:50 |
Firebird8 | what will happen to the ubuntu wiki artwork team? | 07:51 |
troy_s | nothing | 07:51 |
troy_s | i just hope that everyone who can participate intermittently will | 07:52 |
troy_s | manifest | 07:52 |
troy_s | there is a lot of information that is outdated etc | 07:52 |
troy_s | and it will need some attention | 07:52 |
Firebird8 | where is the human window border files kept | 07:57 |
troy_s | window borders are the domain of metacity i believe... | 07:57 |
troy_s | you can tweak using widget factory | 07:57 |
Firebird8 | widget factory... | 07:57 |
troy_s | www.gnome-look.org has a pretty good repository | 07:57 |
troy_s | yep | 07:57 |
troy_s | check the link in teh wiki that etienne established | 07:58 |
troy_s | it shows widget factory at work | 07:58 |
troy_s | and gnome-look should help you get it compiled. | 07:58 |
Firebird8 | ive seen it | 07:58 |
Firebird8 | it reqiures compiling | 07:58 |
troy_s | because I don't believe it is in the repos. | 07:58 |
Firebird8 | :| | 07:58 |
troy_s | although it is probably somewehre | 07:58 |
troy_s | compiling is no big deal | 07:58 |
troy_s | you will enjoy it once you get your way around it. | 07:58 |
Firebird8 | last time i tried it failed | 07:58 |
troy_s | you will need build-essential | 07:58 |
Firebird8 | got it | 07:58 |
troy_s | yah... i'd step you thru it but i am out the door | 07:58 |
troy_s | let me see if i can find you alink | 07:58 |
Firebird8 | so ubuntu is set to realease July 1st | 07:59 |
troy_s | generally though, | 07:59 |
troy_s | when you engage in compiling | 08:00 |
troy_s | the easiest thing is to try a | 08:00 |
troy_s | ./configure | 08:00 |
troy_s | make | 08:00 |
troy_s | make install | 08:00 |
troy_s | when make fails, | 08:00 |
troy_s | it is usually because you are missing a dependency | 08:00 |
troy_s | and HOPEFULLY that depend is in the repository | 08:00 |
troy_s | and will just require adding | 08:00 |
troy_s | dependency-dev | 08:00 |
Firebird8 | http://www.ubuntu.com/include/testing/flight5/ubuntulooks-big.png < that thing | 08:00 |
troy_s | is the title | 08:00 |
troy_s | yup | 08:00 |
Firebird8 | mmm no link | 08:01 |
troy_s | http://www.stellingwerff.com/?p=9 | 08:01 |
troy_s | try there... | 08:01 |
Firebird8 | found it | 08:01 |
troy_s | and start with your first error | 08:01 |
troy_s | work your way through compiling error by erry | 08:01 |
troy_s | i'll offer you help when i am back bro. | 08:02 |
troy_s | out for a while... | 08:02 |
troy_s | take care. | 08:02 |
Firebird8 | makeing | 08:03 |
Firebird8 | bye | 08:03 |
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Firebird8 | theres a slight problem with the network connection monitor | 10:04 |
Firebird8 | icon | 10:04 |
msikma | There is? | 10:06 |
msikma | What kind of problem? | 10:06 |
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