=== zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ub_ [n=ub@c213-100-54-133.swipnet.se] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === cassidy [n=cassidy@180.170-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === Insup [n=mike@host81-156-44-100.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === S [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@modemcable084.216-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] Heya gang === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:56] hi bddebian [01:57] Heya LaserJock, what's happening? === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp19-131.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] bddebian: I'm actually working on a bit of a freelance packaging job [02:08] Cool === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:11] bddebian: yeah, I got the gig yesterday and I have to have it done by Monday :/ === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp19-131.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-004-014.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:19] LaserJock: You are just a glutton for punishment aren't you? :-) [02:20] bddebian: needed to pay for my passport :/ [02:25] how do you sign a dsc file? [02:27] Can't you use debsign or whatever it's called? [02:27] yeah [02:29] LaserJock: who is the gig with? [02:30] honestly, I'm not sure if I'm supposed to say [02:30] you'll probably know when it hits multiverse :-) [02:31] Oh no, it's Sun :-) [02:31] no [02:31] Adobe then === bddebian shuts up now :-) [02:31] I had to take a look at that package though, holy cow, I wouldn't want to do that package [02:32] no, nobody that big === whiprush [n=jorge@c-68-60-158-29.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:34] Hello whiprush === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:00] hi [03:00] Heya ajmitch [03:00] LaserJock: man, I wish I got packaging jobs like that ;) [03:00] unless you've cleared it with kamion already, good luck get anything new into the archive now [03:01] ajmitch: well, it isn't much and it is a real pain because it is propriatary [03:01] ajmitch: Canonical and the company have an "understanding", I have been told [03:01] right [03:01] and they picked you [03:01] I'm impressed [03:02] well, all the real devs are busy with the release [03:02] Heh [03:02] I wasn't the first person they asked ;-) [03:02] since the rest of us aren't real devs ;) === bddebian isn't [03:02] i love being in the dark...meh...;) === ajmitch obviously isn't === ajmitch should just get back to his menial, thankless tasks [03:05] ajmitch: At least you get a modicum of respect :-) [03:05] bddebian: I do? from who? [03:06] Well me for one [03:06] heh === zul plays a violin ;) [03:07] :P [03:07] bddebian: see how he mocks me? :) [03:07] hehe [03:07] heh [03:10] me...noooo.. [03:10] yes, you [03:10] sitting there with a mocking look [03:10] hehe.. [03:10] makes me wonder why I bother around here :P [03:10] because you like to be mocked thats why :) [03:11] no I don't [03:11] yes you do [03:11] this reminds me of the argument sketch [03:11] it's not an argument, it's just contradiction! [03:13] no it isnt [03:13] I wish to file a complaint [03:13] You want to complain! Look at these shoes. I've only had them three weeks and the heels are worn right through === ajmitch already seems to be in the abuse section [03:14] If you complain nothing happens you migh as well not bother [03:14] stop cutting & pasting ;) [03:14] http://www.mindspring.com/~mfpatton/sketch.htm [03:14] I know [03:14] it's much more fun if you watch it [03:15] my memory isnt what it use to be [03:15] or listent to it [03:15] youtube.com has it apparently [03:16] probaly requires flash [03:16] probaly [03:16] my desktop box doesn't do flash or java [03:16] ah.. [03:16] & I'd have to walk about 2 metres to get the laptop [03:16] which is rather inconvenient [03:17] its a meter and a half for me [03:17] was approximately that, I was mistaken :) [03:17] mmm port wine cheese... [03:17] you should take one of those circular rules and check [03:18] http://youtube.com/watch?v=yk4NSQyAFjI&search=monty%20python [03:18] hm [03:21] heh...with the sound off i can tell what they are saying which is eerie [03:21] sad [03:22] yeah that as well [03:22] oh i wonder if they have the spqnish inquistion === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] yay [03:24] full lumberjack song, including the psycotic barber ;) [03:24] hehe [03:27] Don't you two big "main" types have any work to do? === bddebian hides [03:28] no, I'm not a real developer :) [03:28] har har [03:29] Heya tseng [03:29] hi [03:29] "main" developers dont do anything [03:31] Sweet, maybe I will get selected then ;_0 [03:31] Uhm, that was ;-P [03:32] you have to do nothing with style [03:32] Oh, I'm screwed then [03:32] yeah [03:32] sorry. [03:33] ajmitch: See and you think you get no respect :-) [03:34] i just tell it like it is [03:36] Gee thx [03:37] glad to be of service [03:37] bddebian: if the meeting is at a sane hour ill vote for you [03:38] Yeah, I could tell.. :-) [03:38] I'll even buy you dinner if you pass [03:38] if you come to my side of town that is [03:39] I already told you I'd buy if we ever hook up [03:39] did you? [03:39] ok [03:39] i dont really go out your way [03:39] is KOP convenient? [03:41] its like 30 minutes from me [03:41] I pass by almost every day [03:41] or 40 [03:41] not as bad as Valley Forge [03:41] or whatever it was [03:47] I thought you were in KoP? [03:48] no [03:48] Glen Mills [03:48] Ah [03:48] Brandywine Valley, baby [03:49] yuppieville, usa [03:49] Then how'd you become a long-haired hippy commie? ;-P [03:49] i am no such thing [03:49] I am a Republican === tseng ducks for cover [03:50] I just had a hair cut today, as well [03:50] Ack, not possible.. :) [03:50] ? [03:50] I'm joking [03:50] I tend to vote Republican as well :-) [03:51] If we could instate Ronald Reagan as supreme dictator for life === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] I would be in heaven [03:51] But, but, we're the "Evil Empire".. :) [03:51] fine with me [03:52] Wow, I knew there was something I liked about you :-) [03:53] heh [03:55] whoa...them are some quality icons [03:55] jdub's last.fm is embarassing [03:56] http://www.last.fm/user/jdubjdub/ === LaserJock waves to tseng and bddebian [03:56] hi LaserJock [03:56] hello LaserJock [03:58] I thought being a Republican disqualified people from working on Linux ;-) [03:58] not really. [03:58] open source and trickle down economics aren't mutually exclusive [03:59] maybe it's cause I talk to to many liberal Canukistanies [03:59] :-) [03:59] well, I will grant you that a large majority of oss contributors are lefties [03:59] usually far-left [04:00] extremely far-left at times [04:00] but on software we are all on the same page [04:00] Heya again LaserJock [04:00] LaserJock: I used to think so too :-) [04:00] bunch of communists [04:00] heh [04:00] yeah. [04:00] communism is good for you [04:00] i was going to write a paper for school [04:00] gives you pep [04:00] Sure is, ask the Chinese :) [04:01] on why socialism works for software, but sucks for government [04:01] Or the North Koreans [04:01] i dropped out of school and got a job instead [04:01] we had falun gong people protesting against the chinese here in town today :) [04:01] tseng: oh, I'd be interested in that [04:01] communism in china is a farse [04:01] they are a bunch of filthy capitalists just like the rest of us [04:02] they just happen to be more openly totalitarian [04:02] they cant control the population forever [04:02] I think the current submissiveness is partly cultural [04:02] and will end in our lifetime [04:04] Aye [04:04] Then they will probably take over the world :-) [04:05] its a good time to start studying chinese, at least [04:05] it has been interesting watching the foreign grad students in my department (about half of the grad students) [04:05] LaserJock: Why's that? [04:05] bddebian: foreign students don't fuck around [04:06] none of the chinese students I know what to go back, but the South Koreans, Japanese, and Filipino students do often times [04:06] s/what/want/ [04:06] that to me says something [04:06] i think your sentence is all screwed up [04:07] yeah? [04:07] Aye :-) [04:07] it doesnt make sense [04:07] the way you wrote it [04:07] sorry [04:07] please try again :) [04:08] the Chinese grad students don't want to leave the US and go back home, it is more of an escape to come here for them [04:08] oh [04:08] I think what he is saying is that the Chineses students rarel wish to return to China while the others mentioned return to their respective countries [04:08] i got it [04:08] i missed "none" [04:08] i read it as "most" [04:08] whereas the Koreans, Japanese, and Filipino students often say they want to go back and help their country out [04:09] but that is only my fairly limited experience [04:09] LaserJock: I keep meaning to ask you. What school are you at? [04:10] I have never been to an eastern country [04:10] University of Nevada, Reno [04:10] Ah [04:10] tseng: You've never been to Canukistan? === bddebian hides [04:10] haha [04:10] not eastern europe [04:11] I have no interest in going there [04:11] what I thought New York was an eastern country ;-) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:11] I actually havent been to New York either [04:11] only en route to Boston [04:12] Actually upstate New York is beautiful [04:12] hi tseng and bddebian [04:12] I have no desire to see NY City [04:12] hi Hobbsee [04:12] Heya Hobbsee [04:12] I've been to NY City once, tbh it just seemed dirty and crowded [04:12] a few of my friends from school went to college in new york city [04:13] but I'm just a hick from Montana so... [04:13] heh [04:13] i am going to Phoenix next week [04:13] bddebian: yes, I spent a week or so there === ajmitch watches firefox decide to crash on the laptop [04:14] this is awful [04:14] last-exit, last.fm player [04:14] for once I'm glad I have the session saver extension loaded [04:14] instead of using the gtk+ 2.6 ellipsize widget on long song titles [04:14] it makes the window twice as big [04:15] every time i notice iain is offline [04:15] iain? [04:15] he wrote it [04:15] ill try to upload this to edgy [04:15] its stableish [04:15] Ah [04:15] if he makes a release [04:16] still waiting on patches from lewing [04:16] :( [04:16] I hope they come in before uploads are stopped [04:17] really. [04:17] some guy just filed some odd crasher [04:17] i hate those [04:18] no details at all? [04:19] it has a useless trace [04:19] oh [04:19] i see what it is [04:20] wrong sqlite version [04:20] beagle? [04:20] f-spot [04:20] 46942 [04:20] hm [04:21] he has an old db [04:21] or something [04:21] how annoying [04:21] thats what I thought [04:22] either that or I screwed up the last upload [04:23] which is certainly possible [04:23] it works for me. [04:25] cvs has a tango icon btw [04:25] if you are into that sort of thing [04:27] A tango icon? [04:27] s'what i said [04:27] I know, I'm asking what a tango icon is? [04:27] tango style [04:27] tango-project.org [04:27] it has a common palette and style [04:27] Ah [04:28] Hello Amaranth [04:28] hi [04:31] it is alot of work ripping off all the suse 10.1 artwork [04:33] quite [04:33] i think i have the complete set now [04:33] i should make a proper tarball [04:35] oh [04:35] f-spot copies things to ~/Photos now [04:36] it has for quite awhile [04:39] hm [04:39] beagle search is taking forever [04:40] ah [04:40] it throws an exception [05:01] crimsun: you around? [05:02] hi LaserJock [05:02] uh [05:02] hi Lathiat === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-005-117.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.183] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] bddebian: you know what [05:26] bddebian: we could have a greater philly release party [05:26] Just you and me? :-) [05:26] howdy tseng :) [05:26] hannah walach lives in philly [05:27] I think Jaldhar is in Jersey isn't he? [05:27] i am sure there has to be some others [05:28] pity there's not more ubuntu people in NZ [05:28] i wish there was more ubuntu people in perth [05:28] everyone else is on the east coast :( [05:28] nor NV :( [05:28] Lathiat: dude [05:28] Lathiat: the whole UCC is bonkers for ubuntu [05:28] tseng: Where would we have it? [05:28] arent you in with them? [05:28] bddebian: KOP [05:28] Of course ;-P [05:29] tseng: oh i meant people that are involved :) [05:29] Lathiat: oh haha [05:29] theres plentyt of users [05:29] and yeh i knwo all the ucc guys [05:29] i am rooming with davyd and guadec [05:29] i've been going to ucc sine i was in like year 9 in high school [05:29] despite the fact its a university computer club ;) [05:29] tseng: oh cool [05:29] 9 years of High School? [05:29] ajmitch: we can have a release party while you're in AU - you'll get your turn :P [05:29] :-) [05:29] Lathiat: want to join us? [05:29] "9th grade" [05:29] bddebian: we have primary school years 1-7 and then years 8-12 high-school [05:29] yeh "9th grade" works [05:30] we call it "year 9" here more commonly :) [05:30] Hobbsee: in guadec? [05:30] Lathiat: no, on the east coast [05:30] Lathiat: I know, I was kidding you :-) [05:30] oh, hehe [05:30] bddebian: ;p [05:30] sorry, was afk, and finally came back [05:30] maybe some time [05:30] if i run out of work in perth [05:31] Hobbsee: except that it's a month past release [05:31] bah. so? [05:31] belated release party :P [05:31] bddebian: http://www.phillylinux.org/ [05:31] by that stage dapper will be obsolete & unfashionable [05:31] heh [05:32] tseng: You a member? [05:32] no [05:32] PLUG West events are held in the western suburbs of Philadelphia, typically in Chester County. If you are interested in Linux but haven't been able to make it to Philadelphia on a Wednesday evening, why not try coming to a meeting? [05:32] but this is very interesting [05:32] Ah [05:33] PLUG West is in Malvern [05:33] PLUG is in downtown [05:33] Malvern is an easy drive for me [05:33] cool [05:33] do you know Unisys [05:33] its at their office === Hobbsee would have thought that most people would accept any excuse for a party, and beer drinking :P [05:34] I know of the company [05:34] http://www.phillylinux.org/locations/unisys.html [05:34] Hobbsee: :-) [05:35] the next plug west meeting in 6/19 [05:36] Cool Might have to check that out. [05:36] Don't know if I want to hang around a bunch of lefty commie Linuxers though? ;-P [05:36] i gave a talk last year for a big lug event [05:36] i lived [05:36] hehe [05:36] bddebian: you know you want it [05:36] the managed to get 200 people to come out [05:36] but bddebian might not be so lucky, if they've heard of his reputation [05:37] i co-starred with Russel Coker if you are familiar [05:37] what's the wiki page again? :P [05:37] tseng: what on? [05:37] Lathiat: hardening linux [05:37] tseng: figures :) [05:37] (coker) [05:37] yeah [05:37] he wanted to visit WalMart [05:37] of all places [05:38] strange man [05:38] hehe [05:38] the guy novell sent was a snore [05:38] manoj was there, but didnt speak [05:38] What a surprise :-) [05:38] he ran the KSP === ajmitch has met russell a few times now [05:39] oh [05:39] jrb was there [05:39] i think thats him [05:39] rpm guy === Hobbsee has never met anyone :( [05:39] Hobbsee: meet me, I am amazing [05:39] hehe [05:39] I mean.. [05:39] what part of au are you in again [05:40] sydney [05:40] er [05:40] so why werent you at UDU [05:40] i only started using linux later that year... [05:40] and a lack of car/licence would have also had an effect on that :P [05:40] yes, UDU [05:41] fun === StevenK wasn't using Ubuntu at the time of UDU. [05:41] aj and i could have given you the finger [05:41] hah [05:41] Anyway, I'd just came back from LCA. === Hobbsee pokes StevenK with a long stick [05:41] StevenK: no excuse [05:41] Ouch [05:41] StevenK: we ran into people from lca [05:41] ajmitch: IE: Work would probably not given me the time off. [05:42] i happened upon jelmer at a resteraunt in sydney [05:42] by pure luck [05:42] I have no idea how it happened [05:42] I didnt realize I had already met him on irc until months later, too [05:42] he showed me a picture of me sitting next to him [05:42] small world [05:42] & then I met him in dunedin at LCA [05:42] hehe - and then it became pretty obviuos [05:42] except that was planned [05:43] Hobbsee: yeah not much arguing with that [05:43] Wah. [05:43] I've had a bug I've been meaning to file for 11 days now. [05:44] why did I get about 10 f-spot bugs in 2 days [05:44] ajmitch: people got tired of filing beagle bugs? [05:44] "Printers device nodes are created with group lp, but the first user isn't in group lp." [05:44] they must have === ajmitch rejects * [05:45] ajmitch: So now Dapper can be released with no bugs since you just closed them all? [05:45] Mithrandir: http://planetob.openmonkey.com/ < planet openbox [05:45] Mithrandir: there are some lamers on there, but good themes come up [05:45] StevenK: sure [05:45] if the launchpad page loads === StevenK ponders if his bug has any hope of being fixed. [05:45]