[12:00] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, where would the ftp log be?
[12:00] <another_lemur> +1 h3sp4wn
[12:00] <zcat[1] > anyone tried guarddog for setting up a firewall? comments?
[12:00] <diop> can someone please tell me where i can find this Lib: libdivx4linux
[12:00] <Eleaf> I'm hoping I can take that and be able to tell upon request who is connected.
[12:00] <another_lemur> Eleaf, /var/log
[12:00] <HymnToLife> Eleaf> /var/log/yourverycoolftpserver I guess
[12:01] <Eleaf> yea ;p
[12:01] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, I don't see any ftp log directory.
[12:01] <Eleaf> just apache and gdm and some of the system ones.
[12:01] <Billionaire> hollerith, excuse me
[12:01] <hollerith> as regards firestarter its only a frontend for iptables and no easier imho
[12:01] <cocox> Jowi, so ubuntu comes with iptables or firestartert into his kernell ?
[12:01] <HymnToLife> Eleaf> check the manpage of your FTP then
[12:01] <hollerith> billionaire:?
[12:02] <HymnToLife> Read The FTP Manpage :p
[12:02] <Dmo> does anyone know if the iso images for x86 are bootable images? I have tried to install ubuntu via vmware workstation with no luck
[12:02] <Jowi> cocox: yes.
[12:02] <cocox> Jowi, with both installed ????????
[12:02] <HymnToLife> Dmo> you need to setup VMware's "BIOS" to boot from the CD
[12:02] <Dmo> thx
[12:02] <Billionaire> hollerith, because I flood the channel
[12:02] <HymnToLife> it is disabled by deault if I remeber well
[12:02] <Dmo> ur my hero
[12:02] <Dmo> :)
[12:03] <hollerith> iptables needs to be enabled in the kernel in order to snoop and mangle packets
[12:03] <Eleaf> alright
[12:03] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, it's /var/log/xferlog
[12:03] <Jowi> cocox: firestarter uses iptables. you can already use iptables in a terminal. if you want a clickable interface,  la zonealarm and similar, install firestarter.
[12:04] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, but that doesn't tell me how many clients are connected at the current time.  Just a list of all transfers
[12:04] <hollerith> actually its called Netfilter - iptables is the command used to configure Netfilter
[12:04] <hollerith> or shorewall
[12:05] <linuxcrazy> what do I need to listen to internet streams on Ubuntu?
[12:05] <hollerith> ethereal
[12:05] <cocox> Jowi, ok, and iptables is running by default in my system or i must start it -???
[12:05] <hollerith> yuo need to configure it
[12:05] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, any other ideas? ;pl
[12:05] <hollerith> using iptables
[12:05] <another_lemur> linuxcrazy,  it depends on the content of the stream
[12:05] <HymnToLife> Eleaf> hmm, since FTP is basically remote login, maybe "uptime" will tell you
[12:06] <] GoldenDragon> hmm, i've been to the wiki page for how to update Firefox, but on the page it says to extract the tar into /opt and it seems that I don't have permission to do so..I'm on an account with admin privelages
[12:06] <Eleaf> HymnToLife, but won't it count me as logged in?  And also all the times I'm ssh'd in.
[12:06] <another_lemur> ] GoldenDragon, so preface the tar command with sudo
[12:06] <hav0k>  does anyone know anything about laptop lcd's resolutions?  cause mine is wrong.  its supposed to be 1280X800 but its not even a choice on the screen resolution selector
[12:06] <HymnToLife> ell, you'll have to substract all those :p
[12:06] <Eleaf> lol
[12:06] <HymnToLife> besides that I don't realy know
[12:06] <Eleaf> but I log in every once in a while.. ;p.
[12:07] <Eleaf> This is a mission critical number I need to count.. ;D
[12:07] <Jowi> cocox: iptables is installed but inactive. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IptablesHowTo for more info
[12:08] <another_lemur> ] GoldenDragon, if your command is tar xzCf  /opt somefile.tar.gz then you would change it to sudo tar xzCf /opt somefile.tar.gz
[12:08] <HymnToLife> well, actually "uptime" isn"t counting FTP logins
[12:08] <another_lemur> Eleaf, which ftp server do you use?
[12:08] <Eleaf> anonymouse, proftp
[12:08] <another_lemur> lol,
[12:08] <fogos> hi somebody uses gazpacho with pygtk
[12:09] <Chadza> I've disabled gdm from running at boot, but I would like to start a framebuffer so I can have some more text on the screen.  Does anyone know how do that?
[12:09] <Eleaf> lol
[12:09] <Eleaf> another_lemur, proftpd
[12:09] <Jowi> cocox: firestarters homepage http://www.fs-security.com/
[12:09] <gumpish> Is it normal for "Regenerating fonts cache..." to take a long time during a dist-upgrade? Cuz I've been staring at it for like THIRTY minutes and there's nothing going on according to top.
[12:09] <joeyroot> I really neet help
[12:09] <temery> joeyroot> for ?
[12:10] <joeyroot> I can't access my System Administration tools any more :(
[12:10] <cocox> Jowi, thank u so much
[12:10] <Jowi> cocox: np.
[12:10] <Bung> is there a way i can upgrade from server to desktop from command line?
[12:11] <zcat[1] > hmm.. firestarter is definately the tool to use (first time I actually tried it.. I've just relied on NAT and knowing what services are open..
[12:11] <temery> joeyroot> sudo
[12:11] <joeyroot> I setup my user accounts so that my username called "joey" could not access the System Administration tools. Then, I made a new user called joeyroot. I selected "root" for the group.
[12:12] <joeyroot> Now neither of the users I created will let me access the system admin tools
[12:12] <temery> reinstall
[12:12] <Jowi> Bung: easy answer "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" will install it all. (kubuntu-desktop for kde)
[12:12] <joeyroot> so, how exactly do I reinstall?
[12:12] <joeyroot> Do I just run the setup CD again?
[12:12] <temery> putain
[12:13] <Jowi> joeyroot: the user must be in the "admin" group
[12:13] <Blissex> joeyroot: no need to reinstall really... You can boot the setup CD in recovery mode and just edit away the 'root' password temporarily
[12:13] <Eleaf> another_lemur, any ideas?? lol
[12:13] <hollerith> temery: ou?
[12:13] <hollerith> :D
[12:13] <another_lemur> Eleaf, oops, one moment, please
[12:14] <Blissex> joeyroot: or put the users in the 'admin' group as <Jowi> says. Or just boot in ''emergency'' mode ('init=/bin/bash') remount '/' rw and do the edit like that.
[12:14] <Eleaf> lol
[12:14] <wubrgamer> hey, i'm a n00b, what do i press to change to another tty session ?
[12:14] <wubrgamer> like tty1 tty2 etc.
[12:14] <Eleaf> wubrgamer, ctrl + alt + f1-f6
[12:14] <Blissex> wubrgamer: CTRL-ALT-Fn
[12:14] <joshdoe> anyone here have a p4c800e with sata raid?
[12:14] <Chadza> Ctrl+Alt+F1/F2/ . . .
[12:14] <wubrgamer> fn ?
[12:14] <joeyroot> I think it said something about a recovery mode in the GRUB menu on boot
[12:14] <Eleaf> ctrl + alt + f7 to get back to your X session wubrgamer
[12:14] <joeyroot> for ubuntu
[12:14] <eric__> has anyone successfully setup 1280x800 with the intel 82852/855GM integrated graphics?
[12:14] <wubrgamer> can i run more than one x sessoin ?
[12:14] <wubrgamer> and what excatly IS x?
[12:14] <Blissex> wubrgamer: yes, with most drivers...
[12:14] <Eleaf> wubrgamer, sure..
[12:14] <joeyroot> I'll be right back. I'm gonna try fixing my problem
[12:15] <another_lemur> Eleaf, do you have an /etc/proftpd.conf?
[12:15] <Eleaf> wubrgamer, X is your windowing environment
[12:15] <Kyral_Laptop> X is the framework responsible for driving the GUI
[12:15] <Eleaf> anonymouse, yes
[12:15] <Chadza> How do I set a framebuffer?
[12:15] <Eleaf> omg
[12:15] <] GoldenDragon> thanks another lemur!! that did it.
[12:15] <Kyral_Laptop> Eleaf: not true
[12:15] <Eleaf> another_lemur, yes.
[12:15] <Kyral_Laptop> Eleaf: not exactly
[12:15] <Eleaf> Kyral_Laptop, it's the X server
[12:15] <gumpish> Is there a command to show the clock speed of your CPU?
[12:15] <Eleaf> sorry, worded that wrong.
[12:15] <another_lemur> ] GoldenDragon, I'm glad it worked out for you.
[12:15] <Kyral_Laptop> The X Windows System is best described as the framing of the house
[12:15] <biovore> gumpish: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:15] <Jowi> wubrgamer: X is for linux what win3.1 was for DOS ;)
[12:15] <Eleaf> gumpish, you can do 'cat /cpros
[12:15] <Eleaf> fsdfjk
[12:15] <Eleaf> sd
[12:15] <mjr> gumpish, grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo
[12:15] <gumpish> :o
[12:15] <another_lemur> gumpish, cat /proc/spu
[12:15] <mjr> yah
[12:15] <Eleaf> biovore, got there first.
[12:15] <shadowblade> Can anyone help me with internet connection sharing with firestarter? :)
[12:16] <another_lemur> or that :)
[12:16] <Kyral_Laptop> and the different GUIs are like the plaster and walls and stuff
[12:16] <Kyral_Laptop> if you get my meaning
[12:16] <Eleaf> lol
[12:16] <dubidu> i have a little problem...root@du:/home/du/Desktop# xorgconfig
[12:16] <shadowblade> msg me if you can
[12:16] <dubidu> bash: xorgconfig: command not found
[12:16] <Eleaf> another_lemur, don don don
[12:16] <fissy> shadowblade: what's up?
[12:16] <Hexidigital> Kyral_Laptop: what would be the electrical wiring, then?  :)
[12:16] <dubidu> why doesen't recognize xorgconfig command?
[12:16] <Kyral_Laptop> Hexidigital: okay, the wiring too :P
[12:16] <mjr> gumpish, note that cpuinfo shows the current clock speed, so if your clock speed is changing according to load, it'll give different numbers at different times
[12:16] <another_lemur> Eleaf, well, can you private message it to me, or put it somewhere I can see it?
[12:16] <Jowi> dubidu: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" is much nicer
[12:16] <fissy> shadowblade: I haven't used it in ubuntu, but it 'just works' for me in fedora 5
[12:16] <Kyral_Laptop> plain X is just a buncha XTerms
[12:16] <hollerith> dubidu: permissions?
[12:17] <wubrgamer> right.....
[12:17] <dubidu> i'm root...
[12:17] <Kyral_Laptop> and you can pull some cool stuff off with the network side of X
[12:17] <Eleaf> another_lemur, why?  Are you going to h4x0r me? lol
[12:17] <eric__> has anyone successfully setup 1280x800 with the intel 82852/855GM integrated graphics?
[12:17] <Eleaf> another_lemur, hehe, what do you need from it?
[12:17] <Jowi> dubidu: so skip the "sudo"
[12:17] <another_lemur> Eleaf, not today ;)
[12:17] <shadowblade> fissy, use dialog window
[12:17] <dubidu> Jowi, yes i know
[12:17] <hollerith> path?
[12:17] <sponix> aye, whats the name of that lil thing to install nvidia driver and everything _easy_ ?
[12:17] <another_lemur> Eleaf, i'm hoping to find the location of the log file
[12:17] <sponix> was like easyubuntu ?
[12:17] <zcat[1] > !easyubuntu
[12:17] <ubotu> easyubuntu is, like, totally, an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[12:18] <Eleaf> another_lemur, oh, I found the log file.
[12:18] <sponix> zcat[1] , thanks
[12:18] <BlankMind> I downloaded a Debian package (.deb), how do I install it on Ubuntu?
[12:19] <zcat[1] > BlankMind: you don't. Download an ubuntu deb.
[12:19] <Sanne> BlankMind, didn't you find it in the ubuntu repositories?
[12:19] <zcat[1] > better still use synaptic or apt-get
[12:19] <Jowi> BlankMind: first you should make sure the package is not already available in the ubuntu repositories. if it is not, "dpkg -i packaganame.deb"
[12:19] <Abo> BlankMind, sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb, only if the previous responses were exhausted
[12:20] <BlankMind> I didn't find it on Synaptic. I'll try this
[12:20] <Dybber> Hey, I have just installed Ubuntu (5.10). The first problem that i got was something with a graphics driver. Now i ran into another problem. I get "Your session only lasted less then 10 secconds....", when I try to login at the login-screen.
[12:21] <zcat[1] > Dybber: on a fresh install? Ouch..
[12:21] <shadowblade> Can anyone help me with internet connection sharing with firestarter? :)
[12:21] <shadowblade> msg me if you can
[12:21] <Dybber> zcat[1] , yes
[12:21] <fissy> shadowblade... i pm'd you
[12:21] <shadowblade> fissy, use the dislog window
[12:21] <shadowblade> dialog
[12:21] <shadowblade> bottom on screen, my name
[12:21] <Dybber> but i can get in by calling startx in the terminal/console (whatever its called)
[12:21] <Sanne> BlankMind, if it's not made for Ubuntu, it might not work.
[12:22] <Sanne> BlankMind, which program is it?
[12:22] <dorsetlurker> hi all
[12:22] <zcat[1] > Dybber: ctrl-alf-F1 and log in as textmode, then less .xsession-errors I think to see what made it quit
[12:23] <BlankMind> Prboom, a doom source port
[12:23] <BlankMind> It requires some sdl packages, i'm downloading them on synaptic
[12:23] <Hexidigital> Dybber: did you save the session?
[12:23] <BlankMind> and i'll try to install again with dpkg
[12:23] <fissy> shadowblade, are you registered and logged in on freenode? If now, I don't think you can send private messages
[12:23] <fissy> if not*
[12:23] <shadowblade> what are you typing to send priv messages, command?
[12:23] <Dybber> Hexidigital, I don't know what that means, sorry
[12:23] <Jowi> BlankMind: if you haven't tried it already, doomlegacy is really good
[12:23] <Sanne> BlankMind, prboom is in breezy, in universe
[12:24] <fissy>  /m shadowblade message text
[12:24] <gumpish> errr, what should I use with the -t flag when attempting to mount a FAT32 volume?
[12:24] <BlankMind> Jowi, the problem is that i can't install anything on Ubuntu, i'm a totally newbie. I'm trying the first one package I find :(
[12:24] <dorsetlurker> is there any hope of seeing an .deb for ifolders soon as the writeups are great and apt-get install ifolders would make my day
[12:24] <Hexidigital> Dybber: there's an option at logout, if you want to save the session... if you did not save, when your GUI login screen comes up, click Options, then click Session, then click Last
[12:24] <zcat[1] > gumpish: -t auto  :)
[12:24] <BlankMind> In windows I play with ZDoom, it's very nice =D
[12:24] <Sanne> BlankMind, enable the universe repository, then prboom will be in synaptic
[12:24] <zcat[1] > I never tell it the filesystem type, just let it detect it for me..
[12:25] <BlankMind> Sanne, how I do that?
[12:25] <Tac1> Hi! I'm trying to install Ubuntu, but my live CD of Drapper (6.06RC1) hangs up a little after starting X. I've also tried on 5.10, but same thing happens when switching to graphics mode. I have a Radeon 9200 graphics card. Anyone can help me with this?
[12:25] <Sanne> !tell BlankMind  about repos
[12:25] <Jowi> !info doomlegacy-sdl
[12:25] <ubotu> doomlegacy-sdl: (A port of the Doom engine that supports OpenGL), section multiverse/games, is optional. Version: 1.41release-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 429 kB, Installed size: 996 kB
[12:25] <Abo> Tacl, are you using the live cd to install?
[12:25] <Sanne> BlankMind, read what I sent you
[12:25] <[NP] Tangent> hey guys
[12:25] <dorsetlurker> has anyone looked at ifolders
[12:25] <zcat[1] > Tac1: #ubuntu+1 perhaps?
[12:25] <BlankMind> Sanne thank you i'll read that and try
[12:25] <Tac1> Abo, yes
[12:25] <[NP] Tangent> is there an easy way to compare two files and see where differences are?
[12:26] <shadowblade> fissy
[12:26] <gnomefreak> acrowhat to read PDF
[12:26] <Sanne> BlankMind, good luck :). If you get stuck, just ask again here :)
[12:26] <shadowblade> Fissy, /join #one
[12:26] <Jowi> [NP] Tangent: "diff"
[12:26] <mjr> [NP] Tangent, diff is for that
[12:26] <[NP] Tangent> alright
[12:26] <[NP] Tangent> thanks
[12:26] <BlankMind> Sanne, yes I will, only nice guys here xD
[12:26] <Sanne> BlankMind, and girls ;)
[12:26] <another_lemur> [NP] Tangent, use diff -u file1 file2
[12:27] <zcat[1] > hmm.. things to do.. ye
[12:27] <hollerith> so what's up with my hp8200e cd burner http://pastebin.com/741942
[12:27] <dorsetlurker> ok as knowone has seen ifolders i recomend you have a read of http:.
[12:27] <[NP] Tangent> another_lemur, thanks
[12:27] <another_lemur> :)
[12:27] <ChrisCF> Hi all
[12:27] <Hexidigital> Sanne: i guess people tend to forget that girls can be geeks too :)
[12:27] <hollerith> please?  its some sort of ide-scsi hell
[12:27] <dorsetlurker> ok as knowone has seen ifolders i recomend you have a read of http://www.ifolder.com WOW
[12:27] <ChrisCF> Why does apt treat HTTP 302 ("Found") as a fatal error instead of non-fatal?
[12:28] <hollerith> cdrecord thinks its a Generic CCS can't find /dev/pg*
[12:28] <biovore> hollerith: I think those don't follow the atapi standard :-/
[12:28] <Hexidigital> Dybber-: did it work?
[12:28] <joeyroot> what do I type into the recovery console?
[12:28] <ChrisCF> I'm told it also does the same for 301 ("Moved Temporarily")
[12:28] <another_lemur> 302 is a redirect, no?
[12:28] <Sanne> Hexidigital, yeah, I think they do. It's quite rare, or maybe we are just not so talkative :)
[12:29] <hollerith> I've seen some stuff on the forums about them working
[12:29] <joeyroot> I am trying to reset the root password (I think)
[12:29] <ChrisCF> another_lemur: Aye, you get a Location: header telling you where to go.
[12:29] <joeyroot> does anyone remember me? lol
[12:29] <hollerith> yeh are you root yet?
[12:29] <joeyroot> no
[12:29] <Hexidigital> Dybber-: did restoring the last session get you back into your gui?
[12:29] <ChrisCF> joeyroot: "sudo passwd root"?
[12:29] <another_lemur> ChrisCF, it's a safety feature to protect you from poisoned dns
[12:29] <Hexidigital> :)
[12:30] <joeyroot> ChrisCF: do I put that in at the recovery console? Then what? Sorry, im a n00b
[12:30] <cocox> anyone got hang his gnome-dictionay ??? anyone else have the same problem as me ???
[12:30] <another_lemur> afk, dinner time
[12:31] <hollerith> so... this hp8200e is scsi okay - usb external scsi,
[12:31] <ChrisCF> joeyroot: Log in as a user that's allowed to use sudo (generally the first user you create if you haven't fiddled with it), and put that in a terminal.
[12:31] <hollerith> using a 2.6 kernel
[12:31] <Dybber-> Hexidigital, dont know what I did, but it looks like something helped :P
[12:31] <biovore> moo
[12:31] <Hexidigital> Dybber-: glad to hear :)
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ChrisCF: please dont advise people to enable root password
[12:31] <joeyroot> it asks me for a password
[12:31] <joeyroot> and, @gnomefreak, it is just temporary
[12:31] <dorsetlurker> did anyone look at the link i posted re ifolders
[12:31] <ChrisCF> joeyroot: That would be *your* password.
[12:31] <Hexidigital> Dybber-: there's a "save session" radio button after you logout
[12:32] <joeyroot> thx
[12:32] <Dybber-> but I will just reboot once more, just for checking :)
[12:32] <joeyroot> ok
[12:32] <Dybber-> Hexidigital, and what can I use a saved session for?
[12:32] <sparkleytone> joeyroot: DO NOT DO THAT
[12:32] <sparkleytone> joeyroot: DO NOT DO THAT
[12:32] <sparkleytone> there is no ... NO reason to enable root
[12:32] <Sebboh> Hello.  I just installed slidentd and inetutils-inetd, but inetd is only listening on tpc6 113.  I need it to listen on ip4 113 too, of course...  What gives?  I did /etc/init.d/inetutils-inetd stop / start, but that produced no change.
[12:32] <phanter> hello there
[12:32] <joeyroot> BUT I CANT ACCESS MY SYSTEM ADMINISTRATION OPTIONS
[12:32] <Hexidigital> Dybber-: so you can resume with your settings after logging out (at least i think so... i have mine to autosave)
[12:33] <gnomefreak> sudo -i foir a term
[12:33] <phanter> is it possible to start a script at the moment I mount a specific drive (external harddrive in this case)
[12:33] <gnomefreak> joeyroot: su is not the answer and lose the caps
[12:33] <hollerith> why can't he enable root?
[12:33] <sparkleytone> joeyroot: are they broken or did they never work?
[12:33] <joeyroot> I broke it
[12:33] <sparkleytone> he can enable root all he wants if he knows what he is doing
[12:33] <Sven_vB> hi :)
[12:33] <Sebboh> joeyroot, I have the exact same problem, fresh install.  It's broken by default.
[12:33] <Dybber-> ok thanks
[12:33] <gnomefreak> hollerith: its not gonna fix anything but can break things
[12:33] <Sebboh> breezy badger. =P
[12:33] <ChrisCF> Does gksudo not prompt for a password anyway?
[12:33] <hollerith> when he is logged in as root
[12:34] <sparkleytone> being that he...doesn't...there is no reasonable explanation to help him enable root
[12:34] <gnomefreak> ubotut ell hollerith about root
[12:34] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell joeyroot about root
[12:34] <dorsetlurker> joeyroot if you have to have root consol and dont want to type sudo infront of everything type sudo bash
[12:34] <Hexidigital> joeyroot: how far are you into your system? is it a fresh install?
[12:34] <hollerith> its not going to fix anything?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell hollerith about root
[12:34] <gnomefreak> hollerith: no
[12:34] <joeyroot> It wasn't broken by default
[12:34] <Hexidigital> dorsetlurker: i'm writing that down for future reference... thank you :)
[12:35] <dorsetlurker> joeyroot that will give you root
[12:35] <sparkleytone> quite simply, you should never log in to any X session as root
[12:35] <Sebboh> Hex, my fresh install won't let me sudo.  I think that pam is missing some components or something.
[12:35] <sparkleytone> ever.
[12:35] <gnomefreak> what do you think the devel team said "hey lets screw with peole and disable su
[12:35] <Sven_vB> i need help on how to share a printer with samba. "root@hel:/etc/apt# cupsaddsmb -h hel:331 -v ML-6060" (cupsys is running on port 331) => "cupsaddsmb: Unable to connect to server "hel:331" for ML-6060 - Success" <-- Success? Windows 2000 still sees no printers shared on \\hel.
[12:35] <hollerith> ...in case you do something stupid
[12:35] <joeyroot> I tried to change the group of a username to "root", and disabled the admin tools on my other username
[12:35] <gnomefreak> hollerith: you can get a root term with sudo
[12:35] <gnomefreak> so no thats not the reason
[12:35] <joeyroot> so logging into root is like my only option i guess
[12:35] <Hexidigital> Sebboh: try this in terminal  'sudo apt-get update' (without quotes)
[12:36] <sparkleytone> joeyroot: so change the group(s) back
[12:36] <dorsetlurker> joeyroot try sudo bash
[12:36] <Hexidigital> Sebboh: did you set a password for your username?
[12:36] <joevandyk> I have a laptop with TV out.  How do I use the TV out?
[12:36] <joeyroot> I can't change the groups back, I cant access the system admin tools!
[12:36] <Jowi> Sven_vB: if you are behind a router, try to disable software firewalls in Win. "/msg ubotu samba" for some goodies
[12:36] <sparkleytone> joeyroot: do you know what the group names are?
[12:36] <synth> does Ubuntu have support for USB mice and keyboards?
[12:36] <Hexidigital> joeyroot: i suggest a reinstall
[12:36] <gnomefreak> joeyroot: type gksudo synaptic
[12:36] <Sven_vB> Jowi: hel *is* my router.
[12:36] <vincenz> What do you recommend as movie player?
[12:36] <robertj> synth: yes
[12:36] <Eroick> synth: yes
[12:36] <sparkleytone> joeyroot: sudo usermod -G group1,group2,group3 username
[12:36] <synth> thanks
[12:36] <synth> thanks
[12:36] <joeyroot> I already enabled the root login anyway
[12:37] <Sebboh> sparkley, come down off your high horse there...  In many situations it doesn't matter a damn if you're root or not.  I'm always root on my slackware 3 box..  It's a 486 and I use it to display fortunes and run 'rain'. =P
[12:37] <dorsetlurker> joeyroot will sudo work
[12:37] <vincenz> totem won't play a movie which is supposedly divx/mpg
[12:37] <hollerith> joeyroot:can't you use sudo?
[12:37] <Abo> vincenz, it does if you install the needed codecs
[12:37] <joshdoe> Roast are you still here?
[12:37] <Sven_vB> Jowi: i hat access to the printer when hel was running win2k, so it is not a firewall problem.
[12:37] <gnomefreak> not with su enabled you cant (one reason why its not advised)
[12:37] <vincenz> Abo: I installed more codecs to no avail, gstreamer is giving erros
[12:38] <gnomefreak> cupsys and other apps wont work with su
[12:38] <sparkleytone> Sebboh: that's great...for you.  you should not, however, help an inexperienced user who does not understand the repercussions with enabling root...and DEFINITELY shouldn't SUGGEST to enable root as part of a solution.
[12:38] <Sebboh> hexi, I did sudu apt-get update.  Prompted for my user password, gave it correctly.  Then I'm back at a prompt.  Silent failure.  *shrug*
[12:38] <joeyroot> If I reinstalled, do I have to delete the partition with UBuntu on it?
[12:38] <sparkleytone> its pretty simple...if you broke it and root was disabled...then you can fix it without enabling root.
[12:38] <hollerith> gnomefreak: ubuntu is just one view of the thing
[12:38] <gnomefreak> but do as you wish on your own pc but _never_ advise enabling it in this channel
[12:38] <Sven_vB> i'm using cupsys Version 3.0.14a-Ubuntu. some website says this version is buggy and thus cannot chare printers, but i don't want to believe it. is it true?
[12:38] <Sven_vB> if so, how can i update it? apt says it's the latest version
[12:38] <dorsetlurker> anyway pls someone look at http://www.ifolder.com i need someone get as boned up about them as me
[12:38] <Hexidigital> Sebboh: no output whatsoever?
[12:38] <Abo> vincenz, check this site: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats , it will help you
[12:38] <joeyroot> what will logging on as root matter?
[12:38] <Sven_vB> erm not cupsys, samba =)
[12:38] <ChrisCF> The main reason I have root enabled is that when I installed from the DVD, sudo just didn't work.
[12:38] <gnomefreak> hollerith: ubuntu is this channel only veiw needed for ubuntu support
[12:39] <Abo> vincenz, it helped me :)
[12:39] <Sebboh> sparkley, I'm just saying that the world is a very big place and not everybody knows everything. =)
[12:39] <vincenz> Abo: thx :)
[12:39] <joeyroot> I just don't understand what will happen
[12:39] <Sebboh> hexi, exactly.  hold on let me su - so I can check my syslogs. ;)
[12:39] <Jowi> Sven_vB: i successfully shared printer to win machines by just editing the default /etc/samba/smb.conf so i have not run into any other probs than windows firewall.
[12:39] <hollerith> joeyroot: they are afraid you'll get a head fit and do rm -rf /*
[12:39] <hub> hi
[12:39] <Abo> hub, hi
[12:39] <hub> I'm having trouble ripping CD using sound-juicer, as MP3 (yes I know it is bad)
[12:39] <gnomefreak> hollerith: some apps _need_ sudo they wont work with su
[12:40] <joeyroot> Im gonna just reinstall.
[12:40] <sparkleytone> pffft...i've seen the best sysadmins screw up at the command line and b0rk their system
[12:40] <hollerith> I'm not saying he should run apps as root
[12:40] <Sven_vB> Jowi: well. i don't even know whether CUPS is working. on the web frontend it says "admin tasks disabled, use gnome", but i have too few RAM for gnome
[12:40] <joeyroot> How do I reinstall?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> hollerith: cupsys will not run without sudo
[12:40] <Abo> hub, never done it sorry, wait untill someone else tells you what to do
[12:40] <hollerith> he just needs to do some chgrp
[12:40] <joeyroot> meh
[12:40] <gnomefreak> thats one of a few apps that wont
[12:40] <Hexidigital> joeyroot: reinsert your disc, reboot, and don't change your user to root group again
[12:41] <hub> the help says to use the following gst pipeline: audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc ! id3mux
[12:41] <vincenz> Abo: yeah... xine is what I used to have, but ubuntu defaults to gstreamer
[12:41] <joeyroot> ok
[12:41] <ChrisCF> gnomefreak: ... but sudo doesn't magically break if it's enabled.
[12:41] <h3sp4wn> gnomefreak: Only gui apps (if you just edit the config files you will always be ok) - do you know of any console ones which won't
[12:41] <hub> but sound-juice says it can't build it
[12:41] <sparkleytone> regardless of everyone's opinion...its been stated that we should never tell a user to enable root in #ubuntu
[12:41] <dorsetlurker> joeyroot hold on
[12:41] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: no gksudo is for gui
[12:41] <joeyroot> but do I have to delete my partition, or when I install to my linux partition will it clear the partition?
[12:41] <ChrisCF> That, and it relies on sudo actually working, which it didn't on my initial install (with no net access to update it)
[12:41] <dorsetlurker> joeyroot do you have a knoppix disk
[12:41] <joeyroot> yeah
[12:41] <joeyroot> a liveCD
[12:41] <Jowi> Sven_vB: i never ever managed to get the webinterface. it never accepted username/password no matter what i tried. something is faulty with ubuntu regarding that.
[12:41] <gnomefreak> ChrisCF: ask him to run sudo apt-get update he cant
[12:41] <hollerith> so give him an alternative
[12:41] <Sebboh> hexi, right, sudo apt-get update failed silently, no error messages or output.  ..I don't see anything in /etc/var/log .. Where should I look?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> why cant he he enabled su
[12:42] <vincenz> Abo: thx!
[12:42] <ChrisCF> that's funny
[12:42] <hollerith> why can't he sudo?
[12:42] <dorsetlurker> joeyroot yup boot up with that edit /etc/groups job done
[12:42] <gnomefreak> ChrisCF: ask hiom
[12:42] <ChrisCF> My root login is enabled, and sudo apt-get update works perfectly for me.
[12:42] <gnomefreak> he cant do it
[12:42] <Hexidigital> gnomefreak: ever hear of sudo apt-get update (or any other sudo commands) failing silently, w/o output?
[12:42] <hollerith> why not?
[12:42] <joeyroot> what do I change in /etc/groups
[12:42] <gnomefreak> joeyroot: go back to a $ terma nd run sudo apt-get update please
[12:42] <Sven_vB> Jowi: i cheated it by adding a user to groups "shadow" and "lpadmin". afterwards, this user's login was valid for CUPS
[12:43] <joshdoe> Noob alert!  I need help installing my raid so I can install Ubuntu
[12:43] <Sebboh> hexi, the gnome sudo thing gives and error message.  What was it called again?  gksudo?
[12:43] <Hexidigital> Sebboh: yes
[12:43] <sparkleytone> joshdoe: controller-based RAID?
[12:43] <joeyroot> gnomefreak: ok i did
[12:43] <roast> joshdoe: uh. did you address me?
[12:43] <gnomefreak> joeyroot: does it run?
[12:43] <joshdoe> yes
[12:43] <cocox> anyone knows about a good english-spanish dictionary for gnome ???????
[12:43] <ChrisCF> Hexidigital: Are you in the sudoers file?
[12:43] <joshdoe> It is a promise fasttrack on an aus p4c800e
[12:44] <joeyroot> nothing happens
[12:44] <Hexidigital> ChrisCF: lemme check, i think so
[12:44] <gnomefreak> ty
[12:44] <Sebboh> Chris, Where is that file?!  I've been looking for it.
[12:44] <quentez> hi
[12:44] <Sebboh> I knew that it existed.  logins.def?
[12:44] <dorsetlurker> joeyroot add yourself to the group admin
[12:44] <sparkleytone> joshdoe: what trouble are you having?  should be fairly straightforward in the controller interface to set up a RAID array
[12:44] <joshdoe> I verifeied that the raid is running in bios and the raid array comes up as active when posting
[12:44] <ChrisCF> Hexidigital: Also, run it, then run "echo $!" (IIRC)
[12:44] <quentez> can sameone give me help on ubuntu please ?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> ChrisCF: now answer why he cant sudo now ;)
[12:44] <dorsetlurker> sudo will work then
[12:44] <gnomefreak> it disables sudo
[12:44] <anacaona> hello all
[12:44] <sparkleytone> joshdoe: then y ou should be able to install ubuntu using LVM just fine
[12:44] <hollerith> joey(not)root:so if you can sudo what is the problem?
[12:45] <Jowi> Sven_vB: are you sure the correct driver is in use? i had to install gimpprint(or gutenprint as it is now called) for my epson to work even though it detected the "correct" (but obviously incorrect) driver using the gnome-cups-manager. i have not tried any other cups interface than that one i'm afraid
[12:45] <joshdoe> UNfortunately the drives show up as seperate drives under ubuntu
[12:45] <anacaona> i was in here a few days ago cuz my sound stopped working
[12:45] <mwe> quentez: possibly if you ask a question
[12:45] <ChrisCF> gnomefreak: "Enabling rot disables sudo" is BS.
[12:45] <Hexidigital> ChrisCF: no, no... wasn't me, Sebboh is having problems
[12:45] <Sebboh> wtf is rot?
[12:45] <sparkleytone> joshdoe: try using LVM
[12:45] <joshdoe> I think I need to load the promise linux driver
[12:45] <anacaona> the problem is weirder than i thought: i have sound in firefox, but nothing else.
[12:45] <quentez> what is the comand to pass of user to root ?
[12:45] <Hexidigital> ChrisCF: btw, i'm in admins group, not sudoers
[12:45] <gnomefreak> ChrisCF: ask him why sudo apt-get update doesnt work
[12:45] <Sven_vB> Jowi: i copied the ppd file from a machine that successfully printed with this hardware
[12:45] <TTT_Travis> Hello, how do I totally remove a program I installed using apt, I want to remove all of the programs settings and do a fresh install of it
[12:45] <joshdoe> what is lvm?
[12:45] <dorsetlurker> sudo bash
[12:45] <Jowi> Sven_vB: super
[12:45] <mwe> quentez: explain
[12:45] <Sebboh> yes, ask me. =)
[12:45] <Abo> TTT_Travis, sudo apt-get remove progname
[12:46] <ChrisCF> Sebboh: It's what happens when you type "root" too quickly for your keyboard :)
[12:46] <hollerith> logical volume manager
[12:46] <Sebboh> oh.
[12:46] <jovan> cocox, i think you can use the gnome dictionary in accessories
[12:46] <quentez> i have installed ubuntu in server mod and i'm trying installing the gnome package
[12:46] <TTT_Travis> Abo, but that doesn't remove the config files and stuff, like when I reinstall it it still has the same configuation and stuff
[12:46] <joshdoe> ok can you give me the exact steps?  Someone before told me that I should not have 2 drives show up
[12:46] <hub> I was missing the gstreamer-ugly-multiverse pacakge.
[12:46] <Lunarctic> anyone know the location of the c header files in dapper?
[12:46] <hub> thanks for the help
[12:46] <mwe> quentez: yes
[12:46] <dorsetlurker> apt-get install gnome
[12:46] <Lunarctic> vmware is freaking out >:(
[12:46] <dorsetlurker> sudo apt-get install gnome
[12:46] <sparkleytone> joshdoe: logical volume manager.  it will abstract the hard drives so that the system sees one (or more) volume(s) on which to put a filesystem
[12:46] <Sebboh> ChrisCF, ok, from the top:  sudo and gksudo fail silently.  What's up with that?
[12:46] <Lunarctic> gnome-desktop
[12:47] <joshdoe> Do I create 1 partition on each disk?
[12:47] <sparkleytone> at least it should.
[12:47] <dorsetlurker> yes that
[12:47] <Abo> TTT_Travis, no idea then, sorry, wait untill someone else answers (I'll learn too ;))
[12:47] <Sven_vB> can someone test my CUPS when I route it onto the internet?
[12:47] <Lunarctic> you need to sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop, otherwise it'll freak out while trying to install just a few of the files needed
[12:47] <quentez> yes but he ask me for a password
[12:47] <sparkleytone> joshdoe: no...when you run the ubuntu installer...what does the partitioner ask you for?
[12:47] <dorsetlurker> back to ifolders please all look at them
[12:47] <Hexidigital> Sebboh: did you screw around with the root account also?
[12:47] <Sebboh> ttt_travis, apt-get --purge remove program.
[12:47] <dorsetlurker> tell me what you think
[12:47] <joshdoe> It asks me to partitn the disks
[12:48] <phanter> where do I find the logfile that tells me which applicatoins are started when plugging in a device ?
[12:48] <Sebboh> hex, no!  Fresh install.
[12:48] <ChrisCF> Sebboh: It won't be because root is enabled.  I know this, because I have three machines sat in front of me which say otherwise.
[12:48] <Hexidigital> Sebboh: ok
[12:48] <sparkleytone> joshdoe: it should give you a bunch of options
[12:48] <Steggy> Okay, my / partition has run out of space now I can't install anything to it. Is it possible to resize my big /home partition to create a new partitioni to, say, move my /lib directory to, since that's the largest directory on / ?
[12:48] <Lunarctic> so...anyone know the location of the c header files in ubuntu?
[12:48] <quentez> what is the root password ?
[12:48] <mwe> phanter: /var/log/syslog probably
[12:48] <ChrisCF> Sebboh: Run it again, then "echo $?"
[12:48] <quentez> i haven't set it
[12:48] <joshdoe> The first thing it asks me is to partition disks
[12:48] <mwe> phanter: or dmesg
[12:48] <Dybber-> ok, now I have a problem with Firefox. It wont start!! It just spawns in the bar at the bottom of the screen, and disappears 10 seconds later.
[12:48] <Sebboh> Chris, Ok, I don't know what 'root enabled' means, but, this is a fresh install. =) ok, I'll echo the error level, one sec.
[12:48] <hollerith> quentez: nice try
[12:49] <joshdoe> What should i select for partiton
[12:49] <mwe> Dybber-: type firefox in a terminal and see what errors it spawns
[12:49] <sparkleytone> Steggy: you can put a new partition/drive anywhere you want...just mount it to a temp location and cp -af the files from the location you are going to replace...then change your fstab accordingly and mount
[12:49] <Abo> how can i install new fonts to ubuntu (and get firefox to use them)?
[12:49] <Hexidigital> gotta go to work... nite folks
[12:49] <Jowi> Abo: copy the fonts you want to your /home/user/.fonts direcroty
[12:50] <Jowi> nite Hexidigital
[12:50] <StAnLeY^> hey, can anyone look at/confirm/fix bug #47002 (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/47002) ?
[12:50] <Sebboh> ChrisCF, 141, and sudo isn't prompting me for a password anymore.  wtf?  I do sudo apt-get update and it just returns me to a prompt.  with $?=141
[12:50] <ChrisCF> 141 ...
[12:50] <Sebboh> peace hexi
[12:50] <ChrisCF> -128 for "exit with signal"
[12:50] <ChrisCF> signal 13
[12:50] <joshdoe> Sparkletone can you chat me so I can follow?  Too much traffic
[12:50] <ChrisCF> SIGPIPE
[12:50] <Dybber-> mwe, nothing happens
[12:50] <Steggy> sparkleytone: How do I go about making a new partition, since my disk is already entirely partitioned (though I do have a ton of free space in /home.) I tried using GParted, but I could figure anything out with it.
[12:50] <sparkleytone> joshdoe: it doesn't highlight when i type your name?
[12:50] <ChrisCF> Sebboh: Check /etc/sudoers to see if your regular user is listed.
[12:51] <mwe> Dybber-: no error, no nothing, just silence?
[12:51] <Sebboh> Chris, damn, I was looking for that file.
[12:51] <sparkleytone> Steggy: if its entirely partitioned...you need a new HD no?
[12:51] <joshdoe> hang on
[12:51] <Dybber-> mwe, yes silence :)
[12:51] <mwe> Dybber-: that's really odd
[12:51] <mwe> Dybber-: I can't help you with that
[12:51] <Steggy> sparkleytone: So, then, there's no way to actually resize partitions then?
[12:52] <sparkleytone> Steggy: yeah you can.  qtparted would probably work, altho i use plain parted
[12:52] <ChrisCF> What might help is possibly using gdb to figure out what is being processed when the pipe breaks, but that's Another Story.
[12:52] <h3sp4wn> gnomefreak: Were you talking about the web interface ? you can just use /etc/printcap
[12:52] <mwe> Dybber-: well does ps -e|grep firefox return anything?
[12:52] <Lunarctic> ok, does anyone know where the C header files are? I need em for vmware >:P ever since I upgraded to dapper, it's been freaking out on install
[12:52] <joshdoe> Sparkletone can you see my chat request?
[12:52] <Lunarctic> can't find the header files for my kernel
[12:53] <swim> hi, need some help here, i installed dapper rc, tried to install the nvidia-legacy binary driver, didnt work x wouldnt start after that, and I rm xorg.conf because i thought there was a backup, but apparently there isnt... what can I do to repair this?
[12:53] <Steggy> sparkleytone: Thanks :)
[12:53] <another_lemur> Lunarctic, i just installed vmware on dapper
[12:53] <Jowi> swim: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:53] <Lunarctic> it ain't letting me do it for some reason :/ keeps asking me where the C header files are
[12:53] <another_lemur> Lunarctic,  try apt-cache search kernel\ headers |grep `uname -r`
[12:53] <swim> thx Jowi
[12:53] <Sebboh> ChrisCF, lo and behold, my user is not in /etc/sudoers.  Should I add it with sudoedit, or visudo, or what?
[12:53] <Lunarctic> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[12:53] <d00by> is there any way to install all the base codecs? I have VLC installed, but it wants all these plugins, where can i get the plugins for AVI, MPG, DIVX, and XVID?
[12:53] <Jowi> swim: if you're unsure of the driver to use, chose vesa
[12:53] <Lunarctic> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[12:54] <Lunarctic> bah
[12:54] <ChrisCF> Sebboh: The Ten Commandments of Sudoers are all identical:
[12:54] <Sebboh> d00by, there is a package called win32 codecs...
[12:54] <Lunarctic> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[12:54] <Lunarctic> kernel?
[12:54] <Lunarctic> thats the one
[12:54] <another_lemur> Lunarctic, in a different window run the command I gave you
[12:54] <Jowi> ubotu: tell d00by about win32codecs
[12:54] <ChrisCF> "Thou shalt edit sudoers with visudo ONLY"
[12:54] <mwe> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:54] <swim> Jowi: I know that I can use nvidia-legacy, but Ive never installed it the ubuntu dapper way...
[12:54] <rixxon> ordering from shipit, they keep saying it is free of charge. do i pay for the freight?
[12:54] <ChrisCF> Of course, you need to be able to become root to do it, and since you're not in teh sudoers file ...
[12:54] <Bilange> rixxon:  I didnt pay a dime :)
[12:54] <StAnLeY^> rixxon: me too
[12:55] <Jowi> swim: then the reconfiguration should give you a workable xorg.conf file
[12:55] <Bilange> ..and I ordered 20 Cd's
[12:55] <hollerith> ChrisCF:oh why's that then?
[12:55] <kermitX_> rixxon: free unless you live in a country that would require you to pay duty or taxes on the shipment.
[12:55] <rixxon> Bilange: so i order cross the world and they happily pay the freight?!
[12:55] <Lunarctic> cheers :) thats working
[12:55] <rixxon> kermitX_: how do i know if i do? :P
[12:55] <Sebboh> ChrisCF, I'm root.  Don't ask. ;)  visudo gives me the sudoers file in my default text editor.  Great, but the syntax looks complicated.
[12:55] <hollerith> is not a text file?
[12:55] <another_lemur> Lunarctic, if you don't have the headers installed, sudo apt-get install the item returned from the grep
[12:56] <StAnLeY^> rixxon: you are not :)
[12:56] <Bilange> rixxon:  sounds like it-- my package came from France (going to canada), and one morning there was the Cd package in the box
[12:56] <rixxon> StAnLeY^: how can you tell?
[12:56] <kermitX_> rixxon: only a few had reported any problems. you shouldn't have any problems. if it gets held up in customs, there's a value of only like 0.15 euro declared per cd, so it wouldn't be much.
[12:56] <ChrisCF> hollerith: It starts a text editor, and then checks the file before committing it when you save.
[12:56] <mwe> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) will install the headers
[12:56] <dorsetlurker> chriscf why edit it
[12:56] <andrejkw> hey guys
[12:56] <dorsetlurker> chriscf all you have to do is add them to group admin
[12:56] <StAnLeY^> rixxon: if you don't know of something like that, then you should not have sth like that ;)
[12:56] <andrejkw> i got a prob
[12:56] <Bilange> kermitX_:  i thought it was .25 or .05 per CD?
[12:56] <andrejkw> CTRL+ALT+Fx doesn't bring me to command prompt
[12:56] <Sebboh> dorset, wtf is this, bsd? :/  wheel group?
[12:57] <rixxon> StAnLeY^: i've never ordered from another country
[12:57] <another_lemur> bsd == good!
[12:57] <knoppix> ok, this is that guy who had his name as "joeyroot"
[12:57] <mwe> andrejkw: maybe you have the dontZap think in xorg.conf
[12:57] <Sebboh> andre, I had that problem too, so I killed SimplyMEPIS and installed ubuntu.
[12:57] <ChrisCF> dorsetlurker: That's not in my sudoers file.
[12:57] <scifi> !k-3d
[12:57] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, scifi
[12:57] <dorsetlurker> hi knoppix
[12:57] <hollerith> so using, say, vi directly will have no effect?
[12:57] <andrejkw> well I am on ubuntu
[12:57] <andrejkw> mwe: what dontZap?
[12:58] <StAnLeY^> rixxon: where are you from ? :)
[12:58] <Sebboh> ok ChrisCF, how do I add my user to the sudoers file?  Can I copy and past root's line?
[12:58] <scifi> is k-3d currently available in the ubuntu packages? i can check at the mo running xp
[12:58] <ChrisCF> hollerith: It will have an effect.  You just better not make a mistake.
[12:58] <knoppix> What do I edit from Knoppix to get my users menu working in ubuntu
[12:58] <scifi> cant*
[12:58] <rixxon> StAnLeY^: sweden
[12:58] <Sanne> scifi, check at packages.ubuntu.com
[12:58] <kermitX_> 0.13 euro per cd according to http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq#head-7eef2db63e0a75424cdd663ee6f7b8eedcf19607
[12:58] <jhenn> part
[12:58] <hollerith> ;D mistakes?
[12:58] <mwe> andrejkw: actually it disables ctrl-alt-bs but I'm not sure if it affects ctrl-alt-fx as well maybe
[12:58] <dorsetlurker> what did you edit to break it
[12:58] <Jowi> scifi: try "/msg ubotu info k3d"
[12:58] <Sebboh> And ChrisCF, the question remains, why did sudo fail silently instead of telling me that I wasn't on the list? =P
[12:58] <knoppix> I changed my name to what it was
[12:58] <ChrisCF> Sebboh: Out of interest, is there a line in your sudoers file for a group "admin"?
[12:58] <andrejkw> mwe: what is it called?
[12:59] <knoppix> I might just reinstall
[12:59] <StAnLeY^> rixxon: I am from Bulgaria and they successfully (and freely) sent me two packages. I guess Sweden should be no exception :)
[12:59] <dorsetlurker> ok
[12:59] <knoppix> how do I though?
[12:59] <duck--> quack
[12:59] <dorsetlurker> did that break sudo
[12:59] <knoppix> How do I uninstall?
[12:59] <Sebboh> ChrisCF, no, screw that group thing..  I don't think that I even have an admin group.  Solaris does that, bsd does that..  Not linux AFAIK.
[12:59] <dorsetlurker> edit /etc/group
[12:59] <knoppix> Knoppix wont let me save it
[01:00] <Sebboh> ChrisCF, say..  about this sudoers file...  How do I add a user?
[01:00] <dorsetlurker> find all you old names and replace them with your new name or just add the new name like this oldname, newname
[01:00] <duck--> Sebboh, add them to whatever group is allowed in the sudoers file
[01:00] <knoppix> I have to eat dinner anyway.
[01:00] <scifi> Sanne, it seems it is, but quite an old version
[01:00] <andrejkw> So
[01:00] <Sebboh> there is NO group in the sudoers file.
[01:00] <knoppix> I just want to know how to uninstall ubuntu!
[01:00] <crazy_penguin> good night everybody. pleasent dreams
[01:00] <andrejkw> can anyone help?
[01:00] <dorsetlurker> it should take 5
[01:01] <duck--> Sebboh, my bad, not using ubuntu here :)
[01:01] <dorsetlurker> mount the drive my guess hda3
[01:01] <dorsetlurker> in write mode
[01:01] <Sebboh> duck-- =) I was just going to ask....
[01:01] <joshdoe> Sparelytone?
[01:01] <linchris> hi :)
[01:01] <shadowblade> Can anyone help me with a firestarter connection shring problem? if so join channel #one
[01:01] <scifi> anyone use k-3d here ?
[01:01] <knoppix> please? Do I just delete the ubuntu partition?
[01:01] <Sanne> scifi, yeah, those special apps are sometimes not updated regularly.
[01:01] <rixxon> they should make this go automatic, "Sorry, but non-ASCII characters (such as ''), aren't accepted by our shipping company. Please change these to ASCII equivalents. (For instance, '' should be changed to 'e')"
[01:01] <knoppix> Just answer my question
[01:01] <rixxon> just a suggestion :p
[01:02] <joshdoe> Can anyone help me long enough to configure my raid and install ubuntu?
[01:02] <knoppix> whatever
[01:02] <ChrisCF> Sebboh: Group specifications start with % - so "admin" group will be specified in a line "%admin ..."
[01:02] <another_lemur> joshdoe, sure, i can try
[01:02] <andrejkw> Anyone, please???
[01:02] <dorsetlurker> then ur fuc*ed
[01:02] <knoppix> ill figure this out myself
[01:02] <andrejkw> CTRL+ALT+Fx doesn't bring me to command prompt, it just displays a black screen??
[01:02] <dorsetlurker> reinstall
[01:02] <joshdoe> Thanks can we do it in a chat window?  All this traffic is confusing
[01:02] <kermitX_> rixxon: in some languages the single character might get replaced with two.
[01:02] <linchris> Does anyone know why GnomeBaker dont Format DVD-RWs when I tell it to? :)
[01:02] <rixxon> oh
[01:02] <ChrisCF> But, of course, if that's not there, you might as well add a line for your username.  You can probably just copy the line for root, putting your username instead.
[01:02] <duck--> Sebboh, from my ubuntu box, I have these two lines: # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[01:02] <duck--> %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[01:03] <Besso> can enyvan tell me how to solve the conflikt between my webcam and my soundcard
[01:03] <Sebboh> ok.  I think that I got it guys..  I'm going to copy and paste root's line to my user.
[01:03] <Sanne> scifi, if you're not set on this specific 3D app, I recommend blender. If you need k-3d in a newer version, you can look in ubuntu backports, or find an unofficial build for ubuntu, or, if all else fails, build it yourself.
[01:03] <dorsetlurker> ok nopw that done for 1 000 000 time has anyone ever looked at ifolders
[01:03] <duck--> Sebboh, a better way is to add a group
[01:03] <Sebboh> andre, hit enter on the blank screen...
[01:03] <duck--> Sebboh, but do as you wish
[01:04] <dorsetlurker> if not look at this http://www.ifolder.com
[01:04] <dorsetlurker> they look very kewl
[01:04] <joshdoe> ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[01:04] <duck--> they're from novell, right?
[01:04] <dorsetlurker> yup but open source
[01:04] <kermitX_> Sebboh: %yourusername ALL=(ALL) ALL
[01:04] <Besso> webcam becomes defual defual sound card!!! Haw to change it so my real soundcard becoms defual
[01:04] <duck--> novell has an iFolder program thingie too
[01:04] <joevandyk> How can I get TV-out on my laptop to work?
[01:04] <joshdoe> Can anyone help me long enough to configure my raid and install ubuntu?  I just need 5 minutes
[01:05] <duck--> kermitX_, that works, but it violates the "Never assign privileges to a user" administration rule
[01:05] <andrejkw> CTRL+ALT+Fx doesn't bring me to command prompt, it just displays a black screen??
[01:05] <dorsetlurker> novel started it but then opensourced it
[01:05] <duck--> kermitX_, but not everyone follows that
[01:05] <dorsetlurker> they look kewl
[01:05] <scifi> Sanne: i am still trying to get to grips with blender, im keen to learn how to use it knowing what the results its capable of producing. but i still find the interface mind-numbingly difficult, k-3d looks much simpler but still very powerful
[01:05] <kermitX_> that's the DEFAULT entry for the first user created during install.
[01:05] <ChrisCF> dorsetlurker: My machine doesn't have an "admin" group.  I didn't remove it, so I must assume it was never there, which is probably why sudo didn't work properly.
[01:05] <dorsetlurker> backups is 1 easy step
[01:06] <duck--> kermitX_, mine wasn't
[01:06] <duck--> kermitX_, are you on breezy or dapper?
[01:06] <joshdoe> Thois really sucks.  A forum that tries to promote the spread of linux cant even help someone trying to make the leap
[01:06] <duck--> dorsetlurker, i'm gonna look into this, this could be handy
[01:06] <dorsetlurker> chriscf are you on ubuntu
[01:06] <ChrisCF> Yes
[01:06] <Besso> is there no bone that is willing to help ???
[01:06] <joevandyk> How can I get TV-out to work on my laptop?
[01:06] <Besso> webcam becomes defual defual sound card!!! Haw to change it so my real soundcard becoms defual
[01:06] <Sanne> scifi, blender's learning curve is totally steep, but really (trust me), it is so worth it. There's a nice documentation with a tutorial for the first steps, should I find it for you?
[01:07] <dorsetlurker> near the bottom in /etc/group
[01:07] <dorsetlurker> admin
[01:07] <another_lemur> besso, i'm sorry, i don't experience with webcams
[01:07] <another_lemur> !webcam
[01:07] <ubotu> from memory, webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:07] <ChrisCF> dorsetlurker: grep doesn't find it.
[01:07] <duck--> ChrisCF, well, that's odd
[01:07] <dorsetlurker> strange what ubuntu
[01:08] <duck--> yes, what ubuntu?
[01:08] <scifi> Sanne: ive pretty much got my head around the basics, i completed that robot tutorial from blenderart magazine...but i still dont feel comfortable creating something from scratch myself
[01:08] <ChrisCF> breezy -> dapper
[01:08] <duck--> grm
[01:08] <duck--> hrm
[01:08] <andrejkw> CTRL+ALT+Fx doesn't bring me to command prompt, it just displays a black screen??
[01:08] <ChrisCF> assuming that apt hasn't messed with it in the meantime
[01:08] <andrejkw> Come on.. someone please???
[01:08] <dorsetlurker> anyone on dapper
[01:08] <duck--> I'm on dapper and I have admin
[01:08] <gnomefreak> Sanne: if you got it handy can you grab it please
[01:08] <another_lemur> andrejkw, what is your question?
[01:08] <duck--> but I installed from dapper cd
[01:08] <andrejkw> CTRL+ALT+Fx doesn't bring me to command prompt, it just displays a black screen??
[01:08] <dorsetlurker> what is the admin group now called
[01:08] <scifi> Sanne: also it seems dapper comes with a later release of k-3d and blender so i may as well wait until then
[01:08] <Sanne> scifi, one sec
[01:08] <duck--> upgrading might leave users and groups as they are
[01:08] <gnomefreak> duck--: #ubuntu+1 for dapper please
[01:09] <PyroMithrandir> andrejkw, I think I had that problem
[01:09] <andrejkw> What can I do to fix it?
[01:09] <duck--> gnomefreak, I'm not asking a dapper question, or any question, kthx
[01:09] <dorsetlurker> chriscf how did u install it
[01:09] <ChrisCF> From a DVD
[01:09] <duck--> ?
[01:09] <ChrisCF> back in January
[01:09] <duck--> oh wow
[01:09] <dorsetlurker> shit even a server install has an admin group
[01:09] <duck--> yeah, that's what i'm lookin at now
[01:10] <duck--> language please
[01:10] <andrejkw> What can I do to fix it?
[01:10] <dorsetlurker> sorry
[01:10] <scifi> Sanne: its so frustrating seeing what blender is capable of producing....i spose im just so impatient, but i did spend hours using it on that tutorial and still didnt feel that comfortable with it
[01:10] <duck--> np, i'm no admin but I know they don't like it :)
[01:10] <PyroMithrandir> I think, but I'm not sure, that I took the "splash" option out of my kernel to boot
[01:10] <another_lemur> andrejkw, are you using ubuntu?
[01:10] <andrejkw> ues 5.1
[01:10] <ChrisCF> I had to enable root, simply because gksudo didn't actually work as installed.
[01:10] <PyroMithrandir> in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:10] <Sven_vB> how can i test my cups printer? i cannot run gnome thus i cannot print with gedit
[01:10] <andrejkw> *5.10
[01:10] <Abo> is it possible to change users (logout) without killing the first user's graphical apps?
[01:10] <Sanne> scifi, this is the manual, and the tut is "Your First Animation in 30 + 30 Minutes": http://mediawiki.blender.org/index.php/Manual/Manual
[01:10] <hollerith> er, I don't have an admin group in sudoers
[01:11] <Whoopie> Hi, I have a gnome specific question: where are the icons for the URI defined? I would like to add a icon for "synce:///".
[01:11] <cocox> Hlp plz!!!! i made a mistake configuring my iptables i added a wrong rule... what is the sintax for remove a rule ?????????????
[01:11] <dorsetlurker> that will be why then
[01:11] <duck--> ChrisCF, that sounds like something strange is going on.  you could add the admin group and add your user to it
[01:11] <dorsetlurker> prob a flaw in that days snapshot
[01:11] <ChrisCF> duck--: ... or I could just keep the setup I have now, which works.
[01:11] <duck--> ChrisCF, then add the admin entry to the sudoers file
[01:11] <Besso> yes but the problem is that my microfon on me webcam becomes a defual soundcard instead of me real soundcard. Is there no way to make my soundcard defualt
[01:11] <ChrisCF> dorsetlurker: Snapshot?
[01:11] <Sanne> scifi, also go to the wiki's main page and look around, there's tons of documentation, and there's also #blender here on freenode, and the user forum at http://blenderartists.org/forum/
[01:11] <ChrisCF> As I said, I installed breezy from a DVD
[01:12] <duck--> ChrisCF, you can, but it's bad form.  But do as you want
[01:12] <another_lemur> andrejkw, Ok, when you boot, does it gdm start?  or do you just get a black screen?
[01:12] <dorsetlurker> chriscf i thought u said dapper
[01:12] <ChrisCF> dorsetlurker: "breezy -> dapper"
[01:13] <duck--> dorsetlurker, i'd have to check to see how breezy dealt with sudoers, it may be leftover from breezy
[01:13] <hollerith> chriscf:its breezy I've got that and no admin group too
[01:13] <Sebboh> another_lemur, andrejkw, my screen is black when I switch from xwindows to a console, but the login prompt is still there.  The text is just gone.  If I hit enter, I get a new login prompt that I can see.
[01:13] <dorsetlurker> how much info/settings etc are on that machine is a reinstall out of the Q
[01:13] <duck--> yeah, so they fixed it in Dapper
[01:13] <ChrisCF> either way, I now have a situation where sudo *does* work.
[01:13] <plazia> how do I add other repositories to my system so i can install apps like gkrellm? I don't understand this package manager thing.
[01:13] <scifi> Sanne: yeh i saw that gingerbread tutorial, at the moment tho i really want to learn to to model really well and render photoreastically...and THEN may try animation
[01:13] <scifi> Sanne: yes im aware of all that, thanks though
[01:13] <duck--> ChrisCF, but again, it works but not in good form.  That's why they changed it in dapper
[01:14] <gnomefreak> ubotut ell plazia about sources
[01:14] <ChrisCF> duck--: No real reason why I should change it thought.
[01:14] <gnomefreak> grrr
[01:14] <duck--> ChrisCF, I'm not 100% positive of that, but I know it's considered bad form :)
[01:14] <cocox> Hlp plz!!!! i made a mistake configuring my iptables i added a wrong rule... what is the sintax for remove a rule ?????????????
[01:14] <Sanne> scifi, that tut is also about modelling, you won't need to make the animation. Just do the model and stop then :)
[01:14] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell plazia about sources
[01:14] <ChrisCF> It's my laptop - not as if I'll ever need to add another user to sudo.
[01:14] <hollerith> flush
[01:14] <duck--> ChrisCF, maybe, it's your call
[01:14] <plazia> gnomefreak: thanks
[01:15] <gnomefreak> plazia: yw
[01:15] <dorsetlurker> duck
[01:15] <plazia> so appz like gkrellm and things are in the multiverse.
[01:15] <shadeofgrey> what up all
[01:15] <duck--> dorsetlurker
[01:15] <wlvs> hey, not much
[01:15] <Sebboh> ChrisCF, duck--, I added my user to sudoers (using visudo, of course) and I can sudo now.  Problem solved.  The line I added for my user is identical to root's line.  ALL=(ALL)   ALL
[01:15] <gnomefreak> !info gkrellm
[01:15] <dorsetlurker> what do  u think of ifolders
[01:15] <ubotu> gkrellm: (multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] ), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.2.7-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 388 kB, Installed size: 956 kB
[01:15] <gnomefreak> its in universe plazia
[01:15] <scifi> Sanne: i may try it sometime, but may also try k-3d because i feel the learning curve will be MUCH easier
[01:15] <plazia> gnomefreak: thanks agian.
[01:15] <andrejkw> AH LOL
[01:15] <duck--> Sebboh, it's STILL bad administration.
[01:15] <ChrisCF> I only enabled the root account to fix the sudo in the absence of any documentation to explain the admin thing
[01:15] <MorbidHunger> wats the diffrence between xorg and xfree86?
[01:15] <andrejkw> Sebboh: DOH!! THANK YOU MAN!!
[01:15] <plazia> it's taking a while to get to grips with this :)
[01:15] <duck--> Sebboh, just because something works doesn't mean it's right
[01:15] <andrejkw> Sebboh: didn't know it was so simple man!!
[01:16] <andrejkw> lol, i feel dumb now
[01:16] <gnomefreak> MorbidHunger: xfree86 is outdated
[01:16] <Sebboh> andrejkw =)
[01:16] <MorbidHunger> ok
[01:16] <another_lemur> Sebboh, thanks!
[01:16] <Sanne> scifi, yes, k-3d should be easier. I tried it once, it's some time ago though. I should look how far it came. Ah, and what about wings3d? That's supposed to be a very intuitive modeller, do you know it?
[01:16] <duck--> dorsetlurker, i've been aware of the service for a long time now, just not that it's open source, I may setup something like it as I'm using suse on my laptop and could setup a suse server
[01:16] <Sebboh> duck-- What wrong about it?
[01:16] <dorsetlurker> apt-get install telnet works but hey
[01:17] <dorsetlurker> who has done that in the lat 5 years
[01:17] <duck--> Sebboh, in administration you never assign privileges to an individual user.  You assign it to a group that represents either a group of users or the role of a user
[01:17] <Sebboh> duck-- The admin group method sounds wack to me.. :/  I use groups for file permissions..
[01:17] <HiHello> Erm,just downloaded flash player to the desktop,what must I type in the terminal to install it,lol???
[01:17] <gnomefreak> dorsetlurker: telnet is installed by default on breezy i thought
[01:17] <amphi> dorsetlurker: telnet is very useful - telnetd is another story ;)
[01:17] <quentez> i need help for install and launch gnome, speak me in private
[01:17] <dorsetlurker> now i will throw the cat in i do it diff from all of that
[01:17] <duck--> Sebboh, it's bad administration to tie those privileges to an individual user
[01:17] <wlvs> hi, I've been getting pretty weird problems with ssh, on my windows computer I can ssh into my friends server, but on Linux I can't.  I am going through a router, which I am guessing is the root of the problems, any suggestions?
[01:18] <dorsetlurker> i add a dsa key to root
[01:18] <scifi> Sanne: yes i have, but as far i kno u can render in it directly, u have to export ur model and render in somethign else
[01:18] <MorbidHunger> how to install a .deb?
[01:18] <scifi> cant*
[01:18] <dorsetlurker> i the ssh -l root 127.0.0.1
[01:18] <duck--> Sebboh, if you keep assigning it to that user if it is ever compromised suddenly you have to check every spot where privileges were assigned to it, rather than just remove it from the group
[01:18] <Sebboh> duck--, I can see what you mean about the role gets the permissions, not the human.  Humans change, roles don't.  But this is a single user PC. =)  It's my desktop.
[01:18] <duck--> Sebboh, there are even more reasons as well
[01:18] <amphi> Sanne: that's a povray modeler?
[01:18] <dorsetlurker> this i add to /usr/local/bin as root
[01:18] <Sebboh> Like what?
[01:19] <duck--> Sebboh, but you are correct about the single-user thing, most times it doesn't really matter
[01:19] <Sanne> scifi, yes, that's right, wings can't render. Can k-3d render directly, though? As I tried it, it needed povray (which is fine, it's a nice engine).
[01:19] <dorsetlurker> then when i am keyed up i can just type root
[01:19] <Sanne> amphi, which one?
[01:19] <Sebboh> duck-- I'm curious about the other reasons.  I'm open minded. =)
[01:19] <amphi> Sanne: wings3d - kpovmodeler is said to be an ok one, but I just use a text editor for povray
[01:19] <duck--> Sebboh, Are you sure it will always be a single-user?  What if you want to add a friend onto it and add him to sudoers.  Then you have to add him by name to the file instead of adding him to the group
[01:20] <cocox> sudo iptables -D INPUT 1 (this is my answer) thanx anyway
[01:20] <scifi> Sanne: aparently k-3d can now render directly using the aqsis renderman renderer :)
[01:20] <dorsetlurker> if i feel real anal i create a second sshd that runs on 222 and only listens to 127.0.0.1
[01:20] <duck--> Sebboh, configuration files should be changed as little as possible regarding permissions, it introduces too much complexity to a system
[01:20] <duck--> Sebboh, sudoers is a unique instance, however, where the file is simple
[01:20] <Sanne> amphi, wings3d *might* have pov export, I think it has, but I used it long ago... sorry, don't know exactly.
[01:20] <dorsetlurker> then remove root login and password login from 22
[01:20] <hollerith> iptables --flush
[01:20] <Sanne> scifi, that's interesting news, I should really try it again.
[01:21] <amphi> Sanne: never used it myself either ;)
[01:21] <hollerith> flushes your rules - then start again
[01:21] <dorsetlurker> is that anal or what
[01:21] <Sanne> amphi, as I tried it, it was lots of fun :)
[01:21] <amphi> Sanne: I enjoy povray a lot
[01:22] <Fenix-Dark> hi
[01:22] <Fenix-Dark> by default does ubuntu install kde?
[01:22] <amphi> Fenix-Dark: no
[01:22] <MorbidHunger> no
[01:22] <Fenix-Dark> i'm trying to help someone who's using it
[01:22] <duck--> Sebboh, If you arbitrarily want to quickly add another user to the sudoers, it is much easier to add them to a group than add them to the config file, especially from the command line.  For example, if you needed to do something as www-data as I had to recently, temporarily adding them to the admin group is easy-cheesy
[01:22] <Sebboh> duck--, I see it the other way around..  Adding a group to sudoers is introducing a one-to-many relationship..  There can be many people in that group, and they'd all get permissions.  ..And I'd imagine that there's more than one way to get added to a group.
[01:22] <dorsetlurker> duck back to ifolders
[01:22] <hollerith> kubuntu
[01:22] <hollerith> for kde
[01:22] <Fenix-Dark> and to install it with apt-get, its 'apt-get install kde' correct?
[01:22] <amphi> Fenix-Dark: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will do it
[01:22] <scifi> Sanne: i take it most people dont "settle" on one 3D app? personally id like to become really comfortable with one app and just become really adept at using it. so im still in the "trying them all out" phase at the mo
[01:22] <Sanne> amphi, doesn't look as having pov export: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/graphics/wings3d
[01:22] <gnomefreak> Fenix-Dark: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:22] <Sebboh> you added www-data to the admin group??!?!  Goodnight!
[01:22] <Fenix-Dark> alright
[01:22] <Sebboh> ;)
[01:23] <duck--> Sebboh, ony for a second! :)
[01:23] <amphi> Sanne: oh, well
[01:23] <Fenix-Dark> and apt-get installs binaries, or does it compile the stuff?
[01:23] <dorsetlurker> duck what are ur thoughts
[01:23] <Sanne> scifi, well, I pretty much settled on blender, but trying out is never wrong ;)
[01:23] <ChrisCF> Sebboh: There might be more than one way to find yourself in a group, but all of them tend to require human intervention from an admin :)
[01:23] <scifi> Sanne: i just really think im not patient enuff for blender
[01:23] <dorsetlurker> kewl or a waste of time
[01:23] <igorzolnikov> hi
[01:23] <gumpish> Fenix-Dark: the binaries
[01:23] <duck--> Sebboh, or did I?  Can't remember....actually I think I had to su to it from a more privileged user...grr, can't remember
[01:23] <Sanne> scifi, I can understand that. What a pity, though ;)
[01:24] <duck--> gah
[01:24] <igorzolnikov> what is analog Illustrator for Ubuntu?
[01:24] <Sebboh> http://duck.com/cgi-bin/crappyscript?foo=blah%0Crm%20-f%20/
[01:24] <duck--> dorsetlurker, what are my thoughts on iFolder?
[01:24] <Fenix-Dark> gumpish, good, didnt' wanna sit for 8+ hours waiting for it to compile
[01:24] <dorsetlurker> gah ???
[01:24] <Sebboh> ;)
[01:24] <hollerith> gnomefreak: is that the equivalent of kubuntu install?
[01:24] <amphi> igorzolnikov: inkscape perhaps
[01:24] <Dead_Thinker> pow, meu velox fica mei lento no ubuntu hehe
[01:24] <Sebboh> wait, I left out the sudo.  Whatever.
[01:24] <Sanne> igorzolnikov, what is Illustrator?
[01:24] <duck--> Sebboh, lol :)
[01:24] <gnomefreak> hollerith: that will install kubuntu (as the disk would) same default apps
[01:24] <ChrisCF> Sebboh: rm: /: is a directory
[01:24] <ChrisCF> :o)
[01:24] <pdx-fjb> hi, what's the name of the app that people run to monitor cpu usage, network load, etc? Usually on the right side of the screen in the various screen shots?
[01:24] <dorsetlurker> duck yes
[01:25] <duck--> Sebboh, you forgot the r
[01:25] <quentez> can someone help me : speak me in private
[01:25] <hollerith> oh I thought that it would have all special dependencies
[01:25] <wsjunior> does anybody has a hp notebook with quickplay feature?
[01:25] <Fenix-Dark> so apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, do i just need to do 'echo "exec startkde" > ~/.xinitrc" as user to get kde to load on startx?
[01:25] <amphi> quentez: ask in the channel
[01:25] <hollerith> as opposed to just kde-base
[01:25] <Sebboh> %0C = line feed, iirc.  Crappy scripts are fun!  yeah yeah duck--, ChrisCF.  I was thinking more about the escapes than the actual command.
[01:25] <duck--> dorsetlurker, it is very much worth it :)
[01:26] <gnomefreak> Fenix-Dark: it will ask you if you want kdm or gdm to be default and you choose kde or gnome or whatever from the login screen
[01:26] <ChrisCF> Sebboh: Still, you want 0A :)
[01:26] <duck--> dorsetlurker, now i'm toying with it, I just need some place with great storage
[01:26] <Sanne> pdx-fjb, there are several apps, I believe. One of them is gkrellm, I used it some time ago. Dunno if that's what you mean, though.
[01:26] <David_M> okay, here's an Evolution annoyance... am I missing something???   I want to add a long list of email addresses from a spreadsheet but there doesn't seem to be a way to do it, other than A) entering one by one, or B) using another program (like thunderbird) and then exporting the list
[01:26] <scifi> Sanne: and then i see images like this http://mediawiki.blender.org/uploads/d/d7/Manual-Part-II-SubSurf08.png and it persuades me to carry on trying blender *so frustrating* :)
[01:26] <David_M> stupid.  :P
[01:26] <wsjunior> i've installed ubuntu and now i can't use quickplay anymore.. does anybody here had this problem?
[01:26] <dorsetlurker> as i am not hard core what are the chances of a ifolder.deb
[01:26] <amphi> pdx-fjb: gkrellm or torsmo or many others
[01:26] <gnomefreak> hollerith: kde base has just that the base with minimal apps not fun searching for apps to do this that and the other thing
[01:26] <scifi> Sanne: can u model like that in blender?
[01:26] <pdx-fjb> thx! I'll check them out.
[01:27] <quentez> ok : i want to install gnome, i'm in command line and i want to install and start the graphic interface
[01:27] <Sanne> scifi, have you seen the blender gallery, Or, even more frustrating, that just recently released blender movie "Elephants Dream"?
[01:27] <Fenix-Dark> gnomefreak, ok thanks, i myself use slackware so i do everything by hand, not sure if it was needed with ubuntu
[01:27] <duck--> dorsetlurker, ha!  good luck, unless you want to make it yourself.  You could take your chances with alien though
[01:27] <gnomefreak> quentez: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[01:27] <hollerith> so it takes the lot?
[01:27] <dorsetlurker> how long before the .deb people do one
[01:27] <Sebboh> Well I came in here for one thing, and got something else fixed.  Thanks ChrisCF, duck--.  Oh, the other thing..  My inetd can't bind 113.  Nothing's running there.  What gives?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> hollerith: its alot of apps in one package
[01:27] <duck--> Sebboh, erg, netstat doesn't show anything?
[01:27] <Sanne> scifi, no, I can't yet model like that, but I'm not learning very hard, to be honest ;)
[01:27] <gnomefreak> Fenix-Dark: ubuntu is easy to use ;)
[01:27] <hollerith> kde - bloat
[01:27] <shadowblade_> WIll anyon help me with a firestarter connection sharing problem?
[01:28] <duck--> dorsetlurker, I'd try alien before waiting that long :)
[01:28] <Sebboh> duck, wait, nevermind, I think I know what's wrong. inetd.conf is borked, that's all, maybe.
[01:28] <dorsetlurker> :(
[01:28] <hollerith> shadowblade:I know iptables I don't know firestarter
[01:28] <amphi> Sanne: what does blender use for rendering? I've never been impressed with blender renders, compared to povray
[01:28] <dorsetlurker> it looks so kew
[01:28] <hollerith> whats up?
[01:28] <scifi> Sanne: yes ive seen the gorgeous images in the gallery and will download elephant dreams when i get chance, have u seen it ?
[01:28] <dorsetlurker> it looks so kewl
[01:28] <duck--> dorsetlurker, I recently had to switch to Suse 10.1 because Groupwise 6.5 wouldn't run on ubuntu
[01:28] <ChrisCF> Hmm... this is odd.
[01:28] <duck--> dorsetlurker, which is strange because it's java
[01:28] <holt_kessler> how does ubuntu handle xp partitions (pre-existing)  on install to software raid
[01:28] <ChrisCF> apt tells be it's still getting 302s
[01:28] <shadowblade_> i got firestarter sharing a connection on ym second nic to my windows machien through a switch
[01:28] <scifi> amphi: blender can render in povray now as well
[01:28] <shadowblade_> but i cant ping or anything
[01:29] <ChrisCF> but when I try a HTTP HEAD request, I get 200.
[01:29] <shadowblade_> no conneciton
[01:29] <amphi> scifi: oh, excellent, thanks
[01:29] <duck--> dorsetlurker, something like this makes me happy I did :)
[01:29] <dorsetlurker> looks like i might have to install a suse server then
[01:29] <gnomefreak> shadowblade_: did you change anything in firestarter?
[01:29] <Sanne> scifi, I saw the 1024 Avi, can't run the hd version. It's just awesome and mind blowing what the guys achieved in only six months.
[01:29] <shadowblade_> yes, 1 sec
[01:29] <scifi> sweet
[01:29] <hollerith> you can't ping it?  so you have deny icmp?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> shadowblade_: change it back one at a time until you can ping again ;)
[01:29] <duck--> dorsetlurker, umm, yeah, suse server, but remember SLES isn't free last time I checked
[01:29] <shadowblade_> sudo ln -sf /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server /etc/init.d/dhcpd
[01:30] <Sanne> amphi, blender has an internal renderer with recently added raytracing, and it can render directly to yafray.
[01:30] <shadowblade_> to get dhcp working
[01:30] <shadowblade_> but i dont need dhcp
[01:30] <shadowblade_> gnome
[01:30] <shadowblade_> i never had a conenction
[01:30] <scifi> Sanne: one tip i got from the blenderarty magazine tutorial was to use a background image of the model u want to create. is that something u do ?
[01:30] <duck--> dorsetlurker, ahh, they have it for suse
[01:30] <shadowblade_> thsi is my first attemp
[01:30] <duck--> niiiice
[01:30] <amphi> Sanne: and, apparently, now to povray
[01:30] <Sanne> scifi, yes, that's a common technique.
[01:30] <MorbidHunger> isnt there a dapper dvd image i can download?
[01:31] <dorsetlurker> i get loads of suse somethings on my linux mags will try one of them
[01:31] <duck--> MorbidHunger, why a DVD?
[01:31] <hollerith> shadowblade: turn the firewall off and then try connect up your net
[01:31] <Sanne> amphi, blender pov export is a third party plugin and/or a special build.
[01:31] <MorbidHunger> cuz i dont have cdrs
[01:31] <scifi> amphi: yes its called Blend2Pov ver 0.0.6a
[01:31] <hollerith> you can configure the firewall later -its internal right
[01:31] <shadowblade_> holler
[01:31] <Jowi> shadowblade: how exactly is the physical connection laid out? ie. modem -> ubuntu machine with 2 nics -> switch -> win box
[01:31] <MorbidHunger> i have like 30 dvd-rs
[01:31] <amphi> scifi: ta
[01:31] <scifi> amphi: not used it myself tho
[01:31] <shadowblade_> join channel #one, if you want to help
[01:31] <duck--> MorbidHunger, hehe, ummm, would the same iso work on a dvd?  I really don't know
[01:31] <scifi> Sanne: k kewl
[01:31] <duck--> anytone know?
[01:31] <shadowblade_> jowi, #one
[01:32] <MorbidHunger> duck-- i dont know either
[01:32] <dorsetlurker> try
[01:32] <duck--> MorbidHunger, well, can you spare one? :)
[01:32] <dorsetlurker> then tell us
[01:32] <MorbidHunger> a dvdr?
[01:32] <duck--> yes please
[01:32] <duck--> yeah
[01:32] <MorbidHunger> what would i get
[01:32] <duck--> ummm, you mean which iso?
[01:32] <MorbidHunger> what would u give me if i send us ome dvdrs
[01:33] <duck--> my undying gratitude?
[01:33] <pdx-fjb>   /fjb
[01:33] <dorsetlurker> Q for the room will a CD iso work on a DVD
[01:33] <duck--> *crickets chirp*
[01:33] <MorbidHunger> yes
[01:33] <MorbidHunger> indeed i can
[01:33] <duck--> w00t
[01:33] <duck--> go for it then, let us know how it works
[01:33] <MorbidHunger> yeah
[01:33] <MorbidHunger> ill try it out
[01:34] <quentez> thanks
[01:34] <duck--> cooooooool :)
[01:34] <Sebboh> peace all
[01:34] <ChrisCF> dorsetlurker: Size of an ISO9660 image is probably irrelevant
[01:34] <MorbidHunger> meh
[01:34] <MorbidHunger> im dling the cd image
[01:34] <MorbidHunger> so it will take about an hour
[01:34] <duck--> cool
[01:34] <duck--> hour!?
[01:35] <MorbidHunger> and than like a nother hour to install
[01:35] <duck--> wow
[01:35] <ChrisCF> duck--: It would probably work for the same reason that you can put a short (100MB) iso onto a CD
[01:35] <MorbidHunger> im only getitng like 170k
[01:35] <Dead_Thinker> Anderson, blz :D
[01:35] <dorsetlurker> someone was telling me there will be a new 56 GIG disk out soon
[01:35] <dorsetlurker> is the true
[01:35] <duck--> ChrisCF, that was my thought exactly, but I'd never tried it and wasn't sure if it was encoded the same or whatever
[01:35] <dorsetlurker> backup heavin
[01:35] <duck--> yeah, bluray
[01:35] <ChrisCF> duck--: iso images is iso images is iso images :)
[01:36] <duck--> ChrisCF, nein! i'm in iso denial!
[01:36] <dorsetlurker> when will they be out
[01:36] <MorbidHunger> oh shit duck-- knows some german
[01:36] <ChrisCF> stuff like video DVDs tend to be UDF rather than extended ISO9660
[01:36] <hollerith> dorsetlurker:will be able to fit suse on one!
[01:36] <duck--> MorbidHunger, i'm like totally smart or something!
[01:37] <MorbidHunger> duck-- hell yeah
[01:37] <duck--> hollerith, lol
[01:37] <ChrisCF> so as long as you're not using binary images it should work
[01:37] <duck--> kk
[01:37] <MorbidHunger> i havent slept for 10 days
[01:37] <MorbidHunger> thats would be to long
[01:37] <duck--> yep
[01:37] <ChrisCF> MorbidHunger: You'd be dead by tomorrow :)
[01:37] <dorsetlurker> duck when will we see one and a burner to boot
[01:37] <duck--> you need sleep
[01:37] <MorbidHunger> lol
[01:37] <duck--> dorsetlurker, ummm, expect bluray when the ps3 is released
[01:37] <MorbidHunger> it was a mitch hedberg joke
[01:38] <duck--> dorsetlurker, might see hd-dvd sooner
[01:38] <duck--> dorsetlurker, but I think that's only 27 GB
[01:38] <MorbidHunger> i ordered a club sandwhich, and i wasnt even a member
[01:38] <ChrisCF> duck--: "only"
[01:38] <dorsetlurker> anything that will hold 50 gig
[01:38] <hollerith> maxtor have some crazy thing 100G thing in the pipeline too
[01:38] <dorsetlurker> 2 would hold my picture store
[01:38] <duck--> ChrisCF, well....
[01:39] <hollerith> I read it on the reg so it must be true
[01:39] <duck--> i know, and seagate has this 300 GB thing called a harddrive in an external enclosure
[01:39] <ChrisCF> "only" 27GB is the difference between using 6 and 60 discs to back up all my data
[01:39] <duck--> it's AMAZING
[01:39] <duck--> ChrisCF, wow, I don't have nearly that much data
[01:39] <MorbidHunger> my bro found a 200gig in an case
[01:39] <duck--> MorbidHunger, lies! ;)
[01:39] <dorsetlurker> yup
[01:39] <MorbidHunger> no im serious
[01:39] <duck--> oh wow
[01:40] <MorbidHunger> the case didnt work though, but the hd did
[01:40] <duck--> it's a sign of the end
[01:40] <JayBachatero> I have a question.  I just installed a fresh copy of Dapper.  I was wondering if it's possible to take a "copy" of the theme and settings that I have in 5.10 and copy them over to Dapper.
[01:40] <duck--> drink your kool-aid!
[01:40] <dorsetlurker> that why ifolders look so kewl
[01:40] <MorbidHunger> koolaid is awsome
[01:40] <QMario> How do I chmod a folder so that I can Read Write and Execute from it?
[01:40] <MorbidHunger> woo 11% downloaded
[01:40] <hollerith> so dapper is available then
[01:40] <dorsetlurker> chmod -R 0777
[01:40] <QMario> I mean what are the arguments?
[01:40] <dorsetlurker> chmod -R 0755
[01:40] <duck--> JayBachatero, you may be able to get them out of any of the number of folders beginning with . in your home directory on breezy
[01:41] <ChrisCF> I like having somewhere in the region of 200GB of HD accessible via samba
[01:41] <duck--> i always leave off the 0
[01:41] <hollerith> I wish I could burn a livecd with my hp8200e - sigh -
[01:41] <duck--> chmod -R 755 directory
[01:41] <dorsetlurker> qmario
[01:41] <MorbidHunger> im on a 15 gig
[01:41] <ChrisCF> one of these days I should get nfs working
[01:41] <QMario> What is an "Input/output" error?
[01:41] <MorbidHunger> 256 sd ram and and amdk6-2 450
[01:41] <ChrisCF> right now, I've got horrible boot sequence dependency issues
[01:41] <duck--> i'm on a 40 gb
[01:41] <duck--> i hate how small it is
[01:42] <dorsetlurker> qmario 7 is W R X  6 is R W  5 is W  X
[01:42] <MorbidHunger> meh
[01:42] <QMario> cannot access `home/qmario': Input/output error
[01:42] <duck--> i have windows dual-booting for development and VS2003 and VS2005 are huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge
[01:42] <JayBachatero> duck I have .gnome, .gnome2, and .gnome2_private
[01:42] <MorbidHunger> my buddy broke my 40 gig
[01:42] <duck--> JayBachatero, I didn't say I had all the answers
[01:42] <ChrisCF> duck--: I came up with a simple solution to the dual-boot problem.
[01:42] <duck--> JayBachatero, but thats where those personal settings are stored
[01:42] <ChrisCF> Scrounge another computer.
[01:42] <dorsetlurker> qmario u need a new HDD
[01:42] <duck--> ChrisCF, don't do it? :)
[01:42] <MorbidHunger> lol i scrounged this one
[01:42] <duck--> ChrisCF, I develop on my laptop at school
[01:43] <JayBachatero> Thanks duck
[01:43] <JayBachatero> Let me see what I find
[01:43] <duck--> ChrisCF, And I can't stand windows, I tolerate it for windows development
[01:43] <QMario> Dorsetlurker, what do you mean by that?
[01:43] <l_r> hello
[01:43] <MorbidHunger> i need a cady and ac adapter for my lappy
[01:43] <l_r> i do not remember when the next ubuntu-stable will be out
[01:43] <ChrisCF> Still, I have fun with the boot sequence of my machines whenever the power goes down.
[01:43] <duck--> l_r, in like a few days
[01:43] <Sanne> l_r, beginning of june
[01:43] <QMario> I was just trying to setup a gmailfs file system, but I used my home directory.
[01:43] <QMario> What do you think could have happened.
[01:44] <dorsetlurker> backup now harddrive about to die
[01:44] <duck--> l_r, less than a week I think
[01:44] <MorbidHunger> someone should send me a mobo
[01:44] <l_r> duck, is it possible to know what main packages-versions it will  inlude?
[01:44] <duck--> QMario, gmail doesn't have permissions to imput or output from your home directory maybe?
[01:44] <sponix> wife seems to like ubuntu so far
[01:44] <duck--> l_r, look in the repositories
[01:44] <ChrisCF> The gateway takes around 5 minutes to come up from a standing start, and the fileserver for some reason just gives up if DHCP isn't available when *it* boots.
[01:45] <duck--> they're identical to breezy except they begin with the dapper distribution
[01:45] <l_r> duck, isn't there a summary somewhere?
[01:45] <hollerith> Qmario:don't panic yet
[01:45] <Jude> I suppose this is a rather silly question, and I feel like an idiot for not being able to work it out on my own. How does one recompile php5? I'm looking to add the mysql modules, but...
[01:45] <dorsetlurker> qmario can u read from it as a super user
[01:45] <ChrisCF> Only problem is, the gateway uses nis for me to log in as a non-root user, the nis server running on the fileserver
[01:45] <hollerith> that gmailfs is probably complaining, it mirrors files to yuor gmail account
[01:46] <duck--> Jude, not really necessary, the repos should have all you need.  If it really is required though, download the php5 sources and 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials'
[01:46] <hollerith> you probably have given it the wrong account details
[01:46] <dorsetlurker> qmario try sudo bash the write to it cat /var/log/messages > testfile
[01:46] <Fenix-Dark> is xchat in apt-get?
[01:46] <Jude> duck--: Well, I assumed it did, but running $ php -m doesn't list the mysql module.
[01:46] <duck--> Fenix-Dark, no, it's in the repos ;)
[01:46] <bur[n] er> Fenix-Dark: is it?
[01:46] <zexr0> xchat-gnome, but it is not the same as xchat
[01:46] <bur[n] er> how hard is it to check :P
[01:47] <fforw> hey.. I've installed ubuntu dapper RC and both my USB stick nor my camera are recognized immedately.. nothing happens when I plug them in.. breezy did that automatically =(
[01:47] <bur[n] er> !tell Fenix-Dark about universe
[01:47] <duck--> Jude, did you install the libphp-mysql package?
[01:47] <QMario> Dorsetlurker, no I cannot read from it.
[01:47] <Jude> duck--: Let's see...
[01:47] <MorbidHunger> who wants to send me a mobo?
[01:47] <Fenix-Dark> bur[n] er, i'm helping someone who's using ubuntu, i dont have ssh access to tell
[01:47] <duck--> Jude, or libmysql-php
[01:47] <bur[n] er> fforw: works here
[01:47] <duck--> Jude, something like that
[01:47] <bur[n] er> Fenix-Dark: packages.ubuntu.org :)
[01:47] <zexr0> Anyone knows the codec for mpeg ?
[01:47] <duck--> !codecs
[01:47] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[01:47] <fforw> /proc/bus/usb/devices lists my camera, but no photo import, no automount etc
[01:47] <bur[n] er> sorry... Fenix-Dark: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:48] <Fenix-Dark> ok thanks, i'll let him know that
[01:48] <duck--> zenrox, see what ubotu said
[01:48] <bur[n] er> fforw: how bout your preferences?
[01:48] <duck--> !easysource
[01:48] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:48] <santi> what's the dapper channel's name?
[01:48] <Jude> duck--: php5-mysql, apparently. :-) Thanks.
[01:48] <bur[n] er> fforw: system -> prefs -> removable drives & media
[01:48] <QMario> Input/Output error.
[01:48] <apokryphos> santi: check the /topic
[01:48] <duck--> santi, #dapper+1
[01:48] <bur[n] er> santi: #ubuntu+1
[01:48] <santi> thanks
[01:48] <fforw> option for camera is enabled in settings
[01:48] <dorsetlurker> new harddrive mate
[01:48] <duck--> Jude, glad I can help :)
[01:48] <hollerith> ubotu:tell hollerith about ide-scsi
[01:48] <dorsetlurker> sorry
[01:48] <ChrisCF> How long before plf gets a dapper repo, I wonder
[01:49] <bur[n] er> fforw: #ubuntu+1 would be more appropriate for this ;)
[01:49] <Jude> duck--: :D! Let's just hope mysql doesn't start spitting out "omg I am not running, but you can't stop me because I can" next time I try to run it from the command line. :-)
[01:49] <apokryphos> ChrisCF: what do you want from plf?
[01:49] <quentez> does somebody know how does virtual server 2005 works
[01:49] <hollerith> ubotu:tell hollerith about cdrecord
[01:49] <ChrisCF> apokryphos: just the usuals
[01:49] <apokryphos> ChrisCF: like what?
[01:50] <ChrisCF> MPEG stuff for DVDs, MP3 codecs, etc.
[01:50] <ChrisCF> (most of which I have installed via cipherfunk, sans GPG key)
[01:50] <dorsetlurker> im going to the land of ZzZzZzZzZz see you all
[01:50] <quentez> c-u
[01:50] <QMario> Dorsetlurker, what should I do now?
[01:50] <apokryphos> ChrisCF: mp3 codecs are available in Universe, as I'd imagine most mpeg stuff is as well
[01:51] <rigonatti> hi there !
[01:51] <apokryphos> or multiverse, rather
[01:51] <ChrisCF> apokryphos: I thought they weren't there because of patent issues?
[01:51] <QMario> Hollerith, I think the files are there, but for some reason I can't access them.
[01:51] <rigonatti> can somenone give me a hand ?
[01:51] <apokryphos> ChrisCF: nope. /msg ubotu restricted
[01:51] <ChrisCF> either way, the DVD stuff definitely isn't there.
[01:51] <apokryphos> ChrisCF: that's available from Seveas' repository
[01:51] <kkathman> apokryphos:  :)
[01:51] <QMario> Hollerith?
[01:52] <rigonatti> ---- can someone give me a hand ?  ---
[01:52] <zexr0> what are the universe in source.list
[01:52] <hollerith> qmario: you can't access the files in gmailfs?
[01:52] <ChrisCF> Sadly, moving to free software alternatives to MP3 isn't an option right now.
[01:52] <apokryphos> kkathman: hey, how's it going =)
[01:52] <Fenix-Dark> is there a way to enable root user on the terminal, or does ubuntu only allow sudo?
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> Fenix-Dark,  thheres always a way. :P
[01:52] <kkathman> apokryphos:  not bad...trying to get azureus to work in Dapper
[01:52] <hollerith> qmario:you can access other files though?
[01:52] <apokryphos> kkathman: dirty, dirty words... use ktorrent ;-)
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> sudo -s  for one.  Or was it -i (i forget)
[01:52] <ChrisCF> That might change is someone will buy me a portable which supports Vorbis to replace my Sony
[01:53] <Fenix-Dark> Dr_Willis, is it a big pain in the ass to do?
[01:53] <apokryphos> (2.0, the newest one)
[01:53] <kkathman> apokryphos:  my pleasure!!  do I need to apt-get it?
[01:53] <QMario> Hollerith, I can't access anything.
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> Fenix-Dark,  its mentioned in the wikis/forums type !sudo and read the bots url
[01:53] <kkathman> ahh standard :)
[01:53] <QMario> I am trying to see if I can mount the directory though...
[01:53] <apokryphos> kkathman: nope, but I believe there are debs available on the site for it.
[01:53] <kkathman> hehe
[01:53] <Fenix-Dark> Dr_Willis, ok
[01:53] <Fenix-Dark> !sudo
[01:53] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:53] <kkathman> nah its here...just got to check if its the 2
[01:53] <hollerith> qmario: you cannot access anything in your home even with sudo
[01:54] <QMario> Yes.
[01:54] <kkathman> apokryphos:  arrgh... ver 1.5
[01:54] <QMario> It says Input/Output Error
[01:54] <apokryphos> yeah
[01:54] <synth> why isnt gaim in synpatic?
[01:54] <synth> newest
[01:54] <hollerith> hmmm
[01:55] <apokryphos> synth: dapper talk in #ubuntu+1
[01:55] <duck--> QMario, I would backup whatever I can ASAP
[01:55] <kkathman> apokryphos:  ahhhh not availble for Dapper :(
[01:55] <QMario> Duck--, why?
[01:55] <synth> <-- 5.10
[01:55] <hollerith> you got input output error when you tail /var/log/messages before?
[01:55] <QMario> How can I backup files I cannot even see?
[01:55] <duck--> QMario, if root can't access your home directory, i would suspect the drive is going
[01:56] <hollerith> qmario:tail /var/log/messages
[01:56] <hollerith> duck--:must admit it sounds bad
[01:56] <duck--> hollerith, yep
[01:56] <QMario> May 27 18:56:16 localhost kernel: [4370740.952000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[01:56] <QMario> May 27 18:56:16 localhost kernel: [4370740.952000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[01:56] <matthewjames> can someone please help me
[01:56] <rigonatti> hi there ..... im traying to install ubuntu 6.06 in my Laptop ...but system halt on boot .. or .... halt on install with noacpi..
[01:56] <rigonatti> can someone give me a clue ?
[01:56] <zexr0> any idead about this error : GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3
[01:56] <hollerith> aah life!
[01:57] <rigonatti> i have tryed google...wiki ...forum ...for almost 2 days =(
[01:57] <Olde> anyone know how to get Totem Player to play WMV files
[01:57] <linux_galore> QMario: thats a un assigned keyboard key
[01:57] <matthewjames> anyone have any idea of how to get shoutcast server working?
[01:57] <duck--> QMario, I'd try a liveCD to see if it isn't something broken with the OS.  If the liveCD doesn't work either, you should put it in a plastic ziplock in the freezer for an hour and try again
[01:57] <hollerith> yeah he's just pasting muck from /var/log/messages
[01:57] <linux_galore> QMario: your keyboard isnt setup right
[01:57] <hollerith> at least you can read it
[01:58] <duck--> hollerith, yeah, i just had a hard drive go bad with similar symptoms
[01:58] <duck--> hollerith, I couldn't access certain files and directories
[01:59] <duck--> hollerith, and so I backed up all I could and it finally died
[01:59] <rigonatti> hi there ..... im traying to install ubuntu 6.06 in my Laptop ...but system halt on boot .. or .... halt on install with noacpi..
[01:59] <Olde> bbl
[01:59] <hollerith> but if gmailfs isn't running it should be back to normal?
[01:59] <hollerith> I'm just thinking that its gmailfs complaining
[01:59] <duck--> rigonatti, is there a noacpi option for booting?
[01:59] <Sanne> QMario, the setkeycodes message appears to be a bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hotkey-setup/+bug/35382
[01:59] <QMario> "/tmp/.fuse_devQVaGqT/fuse on /home/qmario type fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev)"
[01:59] <hollerith> hoping rather
[01:59] <Anusien> Is there a GUI frontend for parted?
[01:59] <QMario> That's what I get when I type in mount
[01:59] <QMario> .
[02:00] <duck--> hollerith, hmm, it could have locked the directory, thats possible....
[02:00] <matthewjames> can someone please help me real quick?
[02:00] <hollerith> who votes for a cold boot? :D
[02:00] <duck--> matthewjames, just ask the ?
[02:00] <QMario> I set up the gmailfs by typing this in: "mount -t gmailfs /usr/local/bin/gmailfs.py /path/of/mount/point -o username=gmailuser, password=gmailpass, fsname=zOlRRa "
[02:00] <duck--> hollerith, i do i do!
[02:00] <holycow> hey all
[02:00] <rigonatti> duck .... i dunno. in true. I boot and see the first stall menu ..then pick the "Install ubuntu" option...system hal on "..Ok, Loading Kernel" ...
[02:00] <matthewjames> yes, i have shoutcast server set up, and it keeps saying connection refused
[02:01] <rigonatti> Btw..if i press f6 and add noapic or nolapic or acpi=off.... the system go to live user
[02:01] <duck--> rigonatti, hmmm, is there a way to get a boot command line?
[02:01] <rigonatti> then ...i press install at desktop and halt again
[02:01] <holycow> would anyone know why one box on the same network with xchat doesn't check for ident when connecting to freenode, while another box with a clean install of ubuntu has an xchat install that tries to check for ident on freenode?
[02:01] <matthewjames> Duck: yes, i have shoutcast server set up, and it keeps saying connection refused
[02:01] <wsjunior> does anybody has a hp notebook with quickplay feature?
[02:01] <hollerith> qmario: do you know if it is likely that gmailfs will start again
[02:01] <duck--> rigonatti, ouch, is ascpi off?
[02:01] <hollerith> if you reboot?
[02:01] <QMario> What do you mean?
[02:01] <QMario> I think so.
[02:01] <duck--> matthewjames, probably need firewall open
[02:01] <rigonatti> yes.. i can get it pressing F6 ...show me boot options with some parameters
[02:02] <mwe> holycow: the box doesn't check. freenode does
[02:02] <kermitX_> synth: gaim 1.5 is in the breezy backports. 2.0 is still in beta.
[02:02] <duck--> rigonatti, is it on in your bios?
[02:02] <matthewjames> Duck: I did that
[02:02] <hollerith> you have added it to some runlevel or its in init.d?
[02:02] <duck--> matthewjames, then i dunno, no experience with it, but good luck
[02:02] <rigonatti> duck: i use a Pentium M .. so ..i tryed in default ..then i turned off
[02:02] <matthewjames> Duck, is there a way to tell what your lan ip is?
[02:02] <duck--> ifconfig
[02:02] <rigonatti> i mean ..CPU power saving : disable, at BIOS
[02:02] <Anusien> ifconfig?
[02:02] <matthewjames> ty
[02:02] <hollerith> can you kill -9 it?
[02:03] <duck--> rigonatti, there isn't ascpi options?  or apm?
[02:03] <QMario> Hollerith, you mean a pkill for gmailfs?
[02:03] <rigonatti> Should be Intel Spped Step tech , right ?
[02:03] <QMario> !paste
[02:03] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[02:04] <MorbidHunger> 40 minutes
[02:04] <Anusien> I'm trying to shrink my windows partition and stick Ubuntu on the other partition.  I boot up via Ubuntu LiveCD and fire up gparted, and it won't find my hard disk (which is unmounted)
[02:04] <duck--> rigonatti, have you tried the text mode installer?  no, there should be a power section, or apm, or ascpi
[02:04] <hollerith> qmario:yeh can you end it gracefully or otherwise?
[02:04] <QMario> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14741
[02:04] <duck--> Anusien, check out gparted's site
[02:04] <duck--> Anusien, they have a livecd now
[02:04] <rigonatti> i dont know how to use the text mode..can u helpe me ? Im with the laptop right here besides me
[02:05] <rigonatti> help*
[02:05] <MorbidHunger> i gotta kill 40 minutes
[02:05] <duck--> rigonatti, you need to download the text-mode installer cd, it's different than the livecd
[02:05] <Anusien> duck--: Actually, I think I got it.  Now I just need to find a way to do the math I need.  Thanks though
[02:05] <duck--> Anusien, np, glad I could help? :)
[02:05] <rigonatti> i have ..the live cd from 5.10 ... and a "install cd " from 6.06
[02:05] <QMario> Hollerith, its not in init.d.
[02:05] <Anusien> I thought it would list all the drives at once, but it was listing all the partitions on each drive.  And then I quickly found the appropriate dropdown box
[02:06] <Anusien> Look At The Fucking Program is in effect
[02:06] <rigonatti> btw...if i type esc i can use a text mode that starts with boot:
[02:06] <hollerith> qmario:paste me a ps -eaf
[02:06] <hollerith> qmario:paste me a ps -eaf | grep gmail
[02:06] <shooey> hey
[02:07] <rigonatti> duck --> is that what you mean ?? the " boot: " prompt
[02:07] <duck--> rigonatti, yeah
[02:07] <rigonatti> ok....so ?
[02:08] <duck--> rigonatti, i dunno, is there a noascpi option?
[02:08] <duck--> no-ascpi
[02:08] <duck--> or whatever
[02:08] <Flannel> ascpi off, push... f1 (?) whatever the help is.  I believe it gives that as an example.
[02:08] <rigonatti> i will try tipe noapic ..hold on
[02:09] <Flannel> i think it's ascpi=off
[02:09] <duck--> anyone know if the "Server Install CD" is like the breezy install cd?
[02:09] <Jowi> pci=noacpi
[02:09] <rigonatti> yeah ..but this solo, doesnt work in boot: prompt
[02:09] <Flannel> duck--: the "alternative" CD is the old textmode installer.
[02:09] <duck--> Flannel, thanks
[02:09] <rigonatti> im using this alternative CD ...=/
[02:09] <duck--> hmm, ok
[02:10] <duck--> but you said it booted up into the live OS?
[02:10] <rigonatti> tryed both of ... now ..im using the alternative CD 6.06
[02:10] <duck--> kk
[02:10] <duck--> rigonatti, is there a "help"  menu or something?  look for how to turn it off
[02:11] <rigonatti> I turned off de CPU Speed, and the Intel SpeedStep at BIOS...
[02:11] <odin__> when you install ubuntu, do you need to be connected to the net to start up grub and install the packages?
[02:11] <rigonatti> in Ubuntu CD help ...just show me to use acpi=off
[02:11] <Flannel> odin__: no.  Everything is on the CD.
[02:11] <QMario> root62201018:11?00:00:01python/usr/share/gmailfs/gmailfs.py/home/qmario/rw,username=qmario@gmail.com,password=blah
[02:11] <QMario> root75047156018:31?00:00:00/usr/sbin/gdm
[02:11] <QMario> That's the command that started all this trouble.
[02:12] <odin__> Flannel:  my friend's trying to install ubuntu on his comp, but when he reboots it to start up grub, instead he gets "No OS found" message
[02:12] <Flannel> odin__: At the grub screen? or does he not ever get to grub?
[02:12] <rigonatti> in Ubuntu CD help ...just show me to use acpi=off
[02:12] <odin__> Flannel:  he never gets to grub
[02:12] <duck--> rigonatti, did you do that?
[02:13] <QMario> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14743
[02:13] <Flannel> odin__: is it IDE? ATA?
[02:13] <odin__> Flannel:  IDE
[02:13] <Flannel> odin__: primary?
[02:13] <rigonatti> but i put this after the "--" and goes ok ...i see the desktop and a "install" icon ....when i click ...system halt again after a while
[02:13] <Flannel> odin__: does he get any errors during the install?
[02:13] <odin__> Flannel:  he should still have it set to master, I'll try to ask him
[02:14] <duck--> Flannel, does the alternative boot into the live OS or not?
[02:14] <Flannel> duck--: no.  It's just an installer.
[02:14] <duck--> rigonatti, if what Flannel tells me is true, you're using the wrong CD.
[02:14] <rigonatti> this is the iso file
[02:14] <rigonatti> ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso
[02:14] <MorbidHunger> hmmmm , so theres only a breezy dvd
[02:15] <mnvl> hi, i've just installed ubuntu 5.04 from cd. it didn't ask me for a root password, and i don't know what it is
[02:15] <rigonatti> ubuntu.com
[02:15] <MorbidHunger> its sudo
[02:15] <Flannel> !tell mnvl about root
[02:15] <duck--> rigonatti, bthats not the right one
[02:15] <odin__> Flannel:  that is ... if I can somehow get to ask him...
[02:15] <linchris> why does all gtk apps look like crap?
[02:15] <rigonatti> duck : no ???
[02:15] <duck--> rigonatti, I think it's mis-identifying your hardware causing the ascpi issue, the text-mode installer may do a better job
[02:16] <RandolphCarter> linchris: apt-get-install gtk-theme-switch ;)
[02:16] <rigonatti> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06
[02:16] <rigonatti> this is the original url
[02:16] <duck--> rigonatti, http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-rc-alternate-i386.iso
[02:16] <RandolphCarter> linchris: and install some gtk-engines too
[02:16] <Flannel> rigonatti: oh, this is dapper?  #ubuntu+1 for dapper help.  They might know more about these issues.
[02:16] <QMario> Hollerith, is there anyway I can undo the process?
[02:16] <linchris> thanks RandolphCarter :)
[02:16] <rigonatti> ok...but what should i type ..i know that type just "boot: acpi=off" dont work
[02:16] <duck--> rigonatti, oh right, they actually will probably be able to solve it without the roundabout shot in the dark method :)
[02:16] <duck--> rigonatti, thats because it boots into the live OS
[02:17] <RandolphCarter> linchris: np's :)
[02:17] <mnvl> great thx Flannel
[02:17] <duck--> rigonatti, the alternate uses a text-mode installer
[02:17] <duck--> rigonatti, which isn't likely to take advantage of ascpi
[02:17] <HotDrive> Hi there
[02:17] <duck--> rigonatti, and may detect hardware properly
[02:17] <shooey> aregafsgag
[02:17] <duck--> rigonatti, but see #dapper+1 for more support
[02:17] <HotDrive> is there a way to do things in Desktop as root without going to the console?
[02:18] <Flannel> duck--: #ubuntu+1, not dapper ;)
[02:18] <duck--> Flannel, ack!
[02:18] <Flannel> HotDrive: gksudo, from "run" dialog.
[02:18] <duck--> rigonatti, ubuntu+1 I mean
[02:18] <Flannel> HotDrive: erm, I suppose your question is answered simply with the run diaglog.
[02:18] <HotDrive> It's been a long day just copying files...
[02:18] <rigonatti> ubuntu+1 ??
[02:18] <rigonatti> the channel ?
[02:18] <Flannel> rigonatti: /join #ubuntu+1
[02:18] <duck--> rigonatti, type /join #ubuntu+1
[02:18] <HotDrive> run diaglog?
[02:19] <Flannel> rigonatti: it's the dapper channel, since it's not offically released yet.
[02:19] <Flannel> HotDrive: erm, ctrl-f2?  alt-f2?
[02:19] <duck--> rigonatti, and more knowledgable folks may be hanging out there, at least they may know more about your issue
[02:19] <rigonatti> txs duck !
[02:19] <duck--> rigonatti, np, I tried, good luck with all this :)
[02:19] <nalioth> hi jadaz87
[02:20] <HotDrive> Flannel-> not that. I mean draging files with mouse from um directory to another, owned by root
[02:21] <Flannel> HotDrive: gksudo nautilus will work
[02:21] <Eleaf> hmm
[02:21] <Flannel> HotDrive: just be careful ;) it's a lot easier to FUBAR with a GUI.
[02:21] <Hit3k> Can someone help me fix this error message please? [4294710.957000]  ra0 (WE) : Driver using old /proc/net/wireless support, please fix driver !
[02:21] <HotDrive> the command is "gksudo nautilus"?
[02:21] <Flannel> HotDrive: in the run dialog, yeah.
[02:21] <shooey> ubuntu sux
[02:21] <{alejandro}> ok
[02:21] <shooey> use slackware
[02:22] <Flannel> HotDrive: it'll open a nautilus window (that's the file browser thing), as root.
[02:22] <shooey> ;-)
[02:22] <shooey> ok
[02:22] <{alejandro}> you are entitled to that opinion
[02:22] <{alejandro}> otherwise you are being a troll
[02:22] <Flannel> shooey: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:22] <{alejandro}> jus' sayin.
[02:22] <shooey> Flannel, take some beer
[02:22] <shooey> and go to sleep
[02:22] <{alejandro}> shooey this is a support room
[02:22] <{alejandro}> not a discussion one
[02:22] <HotDrive> ok, thanks. I don't want to "FUBAR" the thing, just want to copy skins to the programs directories...
[02:22] <shooey> {alejandro}, ok
[02:23] <shooey> this is a room of flames
[02:23] <amphi> {alejandro}: channel ;)
[02:23] <shooey> ;-00
[02:23] <duck--> HotDrive, this might be of interest: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2523165
[02:23] <Flannel> HotDrive: oh, that'll work.  Just don't accidentally hit 'delete' with important things selected ;)
[02:23] <HotDrive> I'll try not to... hehe
[02:23] <duck--> HotDrive, this too: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2523165
[02:23] <QMario> Can some help me?
[02:24] <QMario> s/some/someone/
[02:24] <eimajenthat> is anyone here running Ubuntu PPC as a server?
[02:24] <paul^^> question, is there a list of supported gfx cards / monitors for x11 in the docs of ubuntu? i've had a look but can't see anything :(
[02:24] <eimajenthat> !ppc
[02:24] <ubotu> ppc is, like, PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers.  Supported by Ubuntu PPC.
[02:24] <robert2513> did anyone ever find a solution to the sound problem in gnome where the volume keys on a keyboard control the "Master" sound instead of "PCM" on a laptop?
[02:24] <duck--> QMario, generally if you just ask your question you'll get an answer.  Please don't ask if you can ask.
[02:24] <Andrei> !atom
[02:24] <ubotu> Andrei: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:25] <Andrei> zi lobr linux
[02:25] <QMario> Duck--, what happened to hollerith?
[02:25] <dou213> what command should i do after "sudo apt-get update" to install all the packages?
[02:25] <Flannel> paul^^: the wiki has hardware.
[02:25] <duck--> QMario, not sure
[02:25] <duck--> QMario, I think he's still around
[02:25] <RandolphCarter> dou213: nothing, you do 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to install the packages :)
[02:25] <RandolphCarter> dou213: update just refreshes your package lists
[02:25] <Flannel> paul^^: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:25] <kimjk> #ubuntu
[02:26] <Flannel> paul^^: video cards is first on the "components" list
[02:26] <hollerith> qmario: sorry still here
[02:26] <dou213> and dist-upgrade installs the updates right?
[02:26] <duck--> dou213, don't do dist-upgrade
[02:26] <hollerith> did you kill it?
[02:26] <paul^^> cheers mate :) just what i couldn't find
[02:26] <duck--> just upgrade
[02:26] <eimajenthat> !server
[02:26] <QMario> Hollerith, did you receive my other messages?
[02:26] <dou213> so, first sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade?
[02:26] <duck--> dou213, dist-upgrade will upgrade your distribution to the next version, which you may not want to do
[02:26] <Flannel> dou213: to upgrade to dapper?
[02:26] <duck--> dou213, exactly
[02:26] <HotDrive> LOLOL... I just did in 5 seconds one thig that took me 30 minutes in the afternoon... THANKS Flannel
[02:26] <Andrei> lol
[02:26] <hollerith> qmario: messages?
[02:26] <dou213> ok thx ;)
[02:27] <QMario> Hollerith, posts.
[02:27] <rigonatti> duck--> what is the recommended versions i should use ?
[02:27] <duck--> dou213, yeah, thats just for updating
[02:27] <duck--> rigonatti, huh?
[02:27] <eimajenthat> whoa, weird.  The bot opened a new tab to talk to me.  Why'd it do that?
[02:27] <Flannel> dou213: for upgrading to dapper: gksudo "update-manager -d" is all you need
[02:27] <QMario> Hollerith, is there anyway I can undo the process?
[02:27] <QMario> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14743
[02:27] <rigonatti> should i use this ???  ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[02:28] <dou213> Flannel, i'm already on dapper beta 2
[02:28] <dou213> but thx
[02:28] <duck--> rigonatti, I recommend: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-rc-alternate-i386.iso
[02:28] <hollerith> qmario:its just saying you can't mount the filesystem
[02:28] <duck--> rigonatti, unless you want to stay with breezy, then use the one you just posted
[02:28] <Flannel> dou213: ah.  Then, just normal upgrades, yeah.  And, for further dapper questions, #ubuntu+1 is the channel, not here.  At least, until the release.
[02:28] <wd3> anybody know software for motorola iden to install ringtone and wallpaper?
[02:28] <QMario> Hollerith, so I can undo it?
[02:28] <QMario> I can convert back to a directory?
[02:29] <hollerith> so don't - just kill the gmail process so's I can tell whether your hard disk is about to die or not
[02:29] <mnvl> how do i install kernel sources?
[02:29] <QMario> How do I kill the processes?
[02:29] <rigonatti> duck --> im just looking for some version Easy-to-install to my wifes machine you know ...
[02:29] <duck--> QMario, killall processname
[02:29] <mironet> How do I install new hardware?
[02:29] <rigonatti> then i friend of mine ...told me to get 6.06 ..but seems hard work
[02:29] <duck--> rigonatti, both are easy to install, but use the alternate
[02:30] <hollerith> ps -eaf | grep gmail - send me the output
[02:30] <duck--> rigonatti, the next version is due to be released in a few days
[02:30] <Jowi> mironet: what kind of hardware?
[02:30] <khaije1> anyone familiar w/ the linksys linux firmware saga? I'm trying to see if i can ressurect a donated router - thx
[02:30] <AlinuxOS> http://easylinux.info can't register to this wiki...
[02:30] <AlinuxOS> hello all, I would like to translate in my language some things there...
[02:30] <AlinuxOS> but no way out..
[02:30] <QMario> No process killed.
[02:30] <AlinuxOS> only login is possibbe ...but no register.
[02:30] <paul^^> any one install ubuntu on a duel core amd64 bit before?
[02:31] <QMario> That's the output: "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14743".
[02:31] <p40> http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/rms-ati-protest.html
[02:31] <lufis> Hi. Every time I try to run Azureus, the logo pops up but the program never starts. What gives?
[02:31] <QMario> PID: 6220.
[02:31] <duck--> lufis, try running it from the commandline and see what happends
[02:31] <duck--> lufis, you may get more information
[02:31] <lufis> duck--: , ok
[02:33] <hollerith> qmario:yuo forgot the | grep gmail
[02:34] <wd3> gnomefreak, hey what's up?
[02:35] <joey_mofo> Ok, now that I have reinstalled ubuntu, how do I install java? It won't let me write to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugin
[02:35] <gnomefreak> wd3: hi
[02:35] <hollerith> kill -9 6220
[02:35] <duck--> joey_mofo, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-java
[02:35] <joey_mofo> thz
[02:35] <joey_mofo> thx
[02:35] <duck--> np
[02:35] <ChrisCF> hmm... xine complains about encryption when I try to play a DVD, though libdvdcss is definitely installed
[02:35] <capgadget> You need to make a logical link joey I guess.  At leas tthat is how I did it in fc5
[02:35] <wd3> been awhile, u know any motorola iden software for linux? i have one for xp but trying to stay xp free.
[02:36] <gnomefreak> ChrisCF: you need libdvdread for that
[02:36] <ChrisCF> That's installed too.
[02:37] <QMario> "No such process"
[02:37] <wd3> gnomefreak, u know any motorola iden software for linux to install wallpaper?
[02:37] <gnomefreak> try the regoin set thing on restriced wiki?
[02:37] <ChrisCF> (or, at least it should be installed)
[02:37] <gnomefreak> wd3: nope i dont
[02:37] <wd3> gnomefreak, thanks
[02:38] <ChrisCF> yes, dpkg confirms libdvdread3 is installed
[02:38] <Hit3k> Can someone help me fix this error message please? [4294710.957000]  ra0 (WE) : Driver using old /proc/net/wireless support, please fix driver !
[02:38] <RandolphCarter> ChrisCF: you have to run a script to install it, two seconds
[02:38] <hollerith> try ps again - has it died?
[02:38] <ChrisCF> RandolphCarter: It's already installed
[02:38] <RandolphCarter> ChrisCF: bash /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[02:38] <RandolphCarter> ChrisCF: ran that?
[02:39] <p40> http://www.gnu-linux.it (it's my own www) fuck you
[02:39] <hollerith> qmario:has it died?
[02:39] <ChrisCF> RandolphCarter: I refer the honorable member to my previous answer
[02:39] <QMario> What, my HDD?
[02:39] <ChrisCF> (i.e. "it's already installed")
[02:39] <QMario> If HDD, no.
[02:39] <RandolphCarter> ChrisCF: ah, my bad :/ guess that's kinda odd then
[02:39] <QMario> It said "No such process".
[02:39] <mironet> I want to install a ezonics chat camera
[02:40] <eimajenthat> !udeb
[02:40] <ubotu> eimajenthat: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:40] <hollerith> qmario:try ps -eaf bit again - I want to see if it has died
[02:40] <mironet> Can somebody help me pointing some idea
[02:40] <eimajenthat> what's a udeb file?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> mironet,  i would say hit google and search for that camera name and linux, from a start.
[02:40] <ChrisCF> according to dpkg -L, libdvdread3 has put a libdvdread.so.$num in /usr/lib, and libdvdcss2 has put a libdvdcss.so.$num in there, so I'm assuming that means they're "installed"
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> mironet,  ive had such BAD luck with webcams..
[02:41] <hollerith> qmario:try a reboot then
[02:41] <rusakk0> hi there.. where does gaim save files sent to me via msn? I cant find them anywhere on my computer tho it looked as if the transfer happened
[02:41] <zexr0> gaim ask you for a place to save them no ?
[02:42] <rusakk0> it did not
[02:42] <zexr0> else look in the preferences
[02:42] <ChrisCF> eimajenthat: They're micro-debs, for use with the installer, not for normal use.
[02:42] <zexr0> you should see the default dir
[02:42] <rixxon> rusakk0: i think in where it is installed no?
[02:42] <rusakk0> also I cant find a place where I could fix the preferences, there is nothing about file transfer on the preferences
[02:42] <dou213> hey guys, sometimes my mouse goes wild in ubuntu and all 3 mouse-buttons react without me touching them... what can be the problem - can some1 help?
[02:42] <jason__> so far i'm pretty happy with ubuntu.  i'm curious why 'regular' packages don't seem to be found with apt-get though.  for instance mplayer
[02:43] <QMario> Hollerith, how can I make a file of type "folder"?
[02:43] <Flannel> dou213: do you live near a graveyard?
[02:43] <rusakk0> and in the file transfer window it has no option to change anything either
[02:43] <mnvl> !tell mnvl about root
[02:43] <dou213> Flannel, yeah i don't think my mouse is posessed.. so pls :)
[02:43] <ChrisCF> RandolphCarter: On closer inspection, that wants to install an older version of libdvdcss2 than the one I've already got.
[02:43] <dou213> and i won't call an exorcist
[02:43] <jason__> i missed much of the conversation but i see you talking about webcams and gaim.  i think kopete is the way to go
[02:44] <rusakk0> thanks I found it.. it just did not show in the first 10 minutes, no clue why
[02:44] <ChrisCF> dou213: A bit of harmless exorcise never hurt anyone. :o)
[02:44] <cocox> anybody knows about a good spanish -english dictionary for gnome ?
[02:44] <joey_w00t> I cant find the java-package package
[02:44] <mister_roboto> ChrisCF: by definition?  "harmless... never hurt"   :)
[02:45] <joey_w00t> (in synaptic)
[02:45] <dou213> :) so should i read between the lines: u don't have any clue?
[02:45] <ChrisCF> Out of interest, what's the longest length of cable you can use for a PS/2 mouse reasonably?
[02:45] <QMario> So there is no file extension for a folder?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> Hmm ive had up to 10 ft or so,
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> QMario,  hmm.. a directory is a directory. :P
[02:46] <tritium> QMario: file extensions are meaningless
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> QMario,  the idea of making a file a folder.. is.. odd.
[02:46] <Flannel> !tell joey_w00t about java
[02:46] <mister_roboto> QMario: file extensions aren't meaningful to the O/S in Unix/Linux
[02:46] <ChrisCF> Picked up a 5m extension a while ago, and noticed that appears to cause some lag and jitter
[02:46] <QMario> How do I make a file a directory if it once was a folder.
[02:46] <RandolphCarter> QMario: nope, it helps if you think of directories as just things you stick onto the name of a file
[02:46] <mjr> QMario, you delete the file and make a directory with the same name
[02:47] <mister_roboto> QMario: those are the same thing (folder == directory)
[02:47] <tritium> QMario: "man magic" to read up on how linux discerns a file's type
[02:47] <mjr> of course, you'll lose the file contents
[02:47] <QMario> I did something wrong with mount and one of my home directories and now it can't read from it anymore.
[02:47] <ChrisCF> which is a pain, since I now have a mouse lead trailing across te front of my desk to the machine at the side of it.
[02:47] <QMario> It says "Input/Output Error".
[02:47] <joey_w00t> that's nice
[02:47] <mister_roboto> ChrisCF: time to go wireless :)
[02:48] <ChrisCF> mister_roboto: I'm not happy with the cost factor
[02:48] <hollerith> qmario:sorry trying to do two jobs at once
[02:48] <ChrisCF> Not only would I have to buy yet *another* mouse, they don't come quite so cheaply as the 2 cabled ones
[02:49] <hollerith> qmario:mkdir folder makes a directory
[02:49] <hollerith> called folder
[02:49] <ChrisCF> I'd also have to keep it in batteries
[02:49] <hollerith> qmario:have you tried rebooting?
[02:49] <nzx> hey, whats the best tv viewing application for ubuntu ?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> hollerith,  thats rather 'zenlike' :P lets meditate on the folder/directory Ying and Yang.
[02:49] <joey_w00t> help w/ java...
[02:50] <QMario> Hollerith, so I can't convert a file to a directory.
[02:50] <ChrisCF> joey_w00t: Go to Starbucks?
[02:50] <joey_w00t> It's too expensive, I want free java! :P
[02:50] <hollerith> qmario:what would that be like?
[02:50] <ChrisCF> That, or a better description, please.
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Moolattes from DQ. are good. :P
[02:50] <hollerith> qmario:wher would the data go?
[02:51] <hollerith> qmario:yuo can delete the file and then create a new directory of the same name
[02:51] <Flannel> joey_w00t: did you read your PM from ubotu?
[02:51] <joey_w00t> What PM? I didn't get oen
[02:51] <Flannel> you should have.
[02:52] <joey_w00t> Ok i did
[02:52] <QMario> "/home/qmario" was once a directory and now has an "Input\Output Error" after the gmailfs fiasco.
[02:52] <Fassa> i have a question that i hope someone can help me with , How would I (if possible) Install breezy over a network connection or install from a usb pendrive?? I have no cd room on the box im trying to put ubuntu on and the pc will not boot from USB any help is appreciated
[02:52] <ChrisCF> QMario: "file /home/qmario"
[02:52] <hollerith> qmario:have you rebooted?
[02:52] <joey_w00t> thx for the pm
[02:53] <chowells2> Fassa: you should be able to pxeboot, honestly it will probably be easier to hook a cd rom up for a few minute
[02:53] <chowells2> s
[02:53] <joevandyk> How do I get TV-out to work on my laptop? I want to watch movies on my tv.
[02:53] <joey_w00t> well, it seems as though its a robot
[02:53] <joey_w00t> interesting
[02:53] <QMario> ERROR: cannot open `/home/qmario' (Transport endpoint is not connected)
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> joevandyk,  what video card?
[02:53] <QMario> Hollerith, yes.
[02:53] <jason__> hmmm, i need a fisher price pool cue and there aren't any on ebay :(
[02:53] <ChrisCF> joey_w00t: hence the name u*bot*u
[02:53] <ChrisCF> :)
[02:53] <ChrisCF> QMario: mount | grep home
[02:54] <Fassa> joevandyk:  i dont have any way of hooking up a cd rom its a laptop pc , dell latitude c640 with only the floppy drive
[02:54] <QMario> "/tmp/.fuse_devQVaGqT/fuse on /home/qmario type fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev)"
[02:54] <GoLoGo> im having problems with my video card...
[02:54] <hollerith> qmario:so the python script has gone but yuor home direcotory is still screwed
[02:54] <QMario> Hollerith, what do you mean it has gone?
[02:55] <hollerith> qmario:not running, formerly a process, an ex-thread...
[02:55] <ChrisCF> Anyone care to translate the following into English please?
[02:55] <ChrisCF> "drive plays discs from region(s):, mask=0xFF"
[02:56] <Fassa> joevandyk: also the hd on the dell is already formatted for4 linux it has feather on it right   now but im not sure how to access the usb drive and install ubuntu from there
[02:56] <joey_w00t> so, sudo wont screw anythign up like I screwed up my user groups b4?
[02:56] <biovore> ChrisCF: I belive its refering to the region settings on the disk (DVD)
[02:56] <QMario> ChrisCF, "/tmp/.fuse_devQVaGqT/fuse on /home/qmario type fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev)".
[02:56] <duck--> joey_w00t, sudo can do anything root can, so the sky is the limit with screwing things up
[02:57] <Hit3k> Can someone help me fix this error message please? [4294710.957000]  ra0 (WE) : Driver using old /proc/net/wireless support, please fix driver !
[02:57] <T`> anyone know when ubuntu will update to a newer kernel? like 2.6.16.. ?
[02:57] <Fassa> joevandyk:  and the feather distro is only command line no xwindows
[02:57] <ChrisCF> biovore: I would have thought the first word blasts that theory out of the water ;-)
[02:57] <ChrisCF> (i.e. "drive")
[02:57] <biovore> what drive is that?
[02:57] <ChrisCF> the DVD drive
[02:57] <biovore> well in therory with mplayer, it dosn't check the region encoding
[02:58] <biovore> fear decss
[02:58] <biovore> :-P
[02:58] <grigora> hi, every time I suspend my laptop, when it wakes up I have no sound. anyone knows how to fix this short of rebooting the machine? thanks
[02:58] <mnvl> what is the command to load a kernel module?
[02:58] <grigora> mnvl: modprobe
[02:59] <jadaz87> nalioth: /join #ubuntu+1
[02:59] <biovore> mnvl: modprobe <module_name>  (minus the .ko)
[02:59] <jadaz87> whoops
[02:59] <GoLoGo> Installed Ubuntu Clean on a hardrive - Have a 7800GT Nvidia PCI Express Video Card, the standard drivers where not working, so I tried installing the latest Nvidia linux drivers for my AMD64 System, I followed a HOWTO: thread on the Ubuntu Forums... Installed the headers, sources, build-essentials to the current kernal I am using with Ubuntu. After doing all of that, the screen still looks all distorted, and X Server freezes
[02:59] <GoLoGo> After a few seconds of usage
[02:59] <mnvl> hmm does ubuntu not use modprobe.conf ?
[03:00] <mnvl> the module i am trying to build expects it
[03:00] <ChrisCF> Ah, the lack of anything before the comma apparently meant "region code not set"
[03:00] <Fassa> i have a question that i hope someone can help me with , How would I (if possible) Install breezy over a network connection or install from a usb pendrive?? I have no cd room on the box im trying to put ubuntu on and the pc will not boot from USB any help is appreciatedi currently have feather linux installed on the hd of this laptop and it command line only no x windows please help
[03:00] <biovore> mnvl: try /etc/modules
[03:00] <GoLoGo> Installing the drivers seemed to work flawlessly... and I tried edeting the xorg.conf but when I edit it at all, x server wont run.
[03:00] <jesper_> hello
[03:00] <ChrisCF> I'd have thought that would have been set when the machine was shipped, evidently not
[03:01] <jesper_> my bittorrent trackers dosent work..can someone help mee?
[03:01] <biovore> jesper_: what tracker and what client?
[03:01] <jesper_> bittorent.
[03:01] <nickrud> mnvl, it's been replaced by /etc/modprobe.d/
[03:01] <jesper_> uhu
[03:02] <grigora> any sound experts? any ideas about loosing sound?
[03:02] <Fassa> use botstorm works gr8 for me whennbit torrent quit working on me
[03:02] <Jowi> Fassa: here you have for net, usb and everything in between https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[03:02] <Hit3k> is there a ubuntu-wireless channel or something?
[03:02] <Fassa> err bitstorm sorry
[03:02] <Fassa> thnx jowi
[03:03] <GoLoGo> I dont want to spam, but does anyone know a way to fix my video card distortion problem?
[03:04] <matt__> is anyone on?
[03:04] <issaker> i am
[03:04] <biovore> maybe
[03:05] <matt__> i need some help :(
[03:05] <biovore> !ask
[03:05] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:05] <Abo> matt__ with what?
[03:05] <matt__> okay well this is the 3rd distro i have downloaded and i still can not get my nvidia drivers to work
[03:05] <GoLoGo> same
[03:05] <GoLoGo> I have the exact same problem
[03:05] <matt__> i follow the directions perfectly and it always just makes my screen go into the power save mode when i enable the nvidia drivers
[03:06] <Abo> mmm ... I never tried that...
[03:06] <Abo> sorry
[03:06] <matt__> :(
[03:07] <Quintok> what 'directions' ?
[03:07] <GoLoGo> Installed Ubuntu Clean on a hardrive - Have a 7800GT Nvidia PCI Express Video Card, the standard drivers where not working, so I tried installing the latest Nvidia linux drivers for my AMD64 System, I followed a HOWTO: thread on the Ubuntu Forums... Installed the headers, sources, build-essentials to the current kernal I am using with Ubuntu. After doing all of that, the screen still looks all distorted, and X Server freezes
[03:07] <biovore> matt__: what hardware you running, dual proc xeon or p4?
[03:08] <jason_> hello, my son is 5 and i'm setting his computer up.  so far so good except for the fact that it won't let me pick simple passwords like fish bird, etc.  how can i change that?
[03:08] <biovore> jason_: do it from the cli
[03:08] <Quintok> jason_ why don't you make it auto-login?
[03:08] <biovore> sudo passwd <username>
[03:08] <GoLoGo> the latest drivers seemed to install flawlessly... the screen still looks distorted... and when i edit my xorg.conf x server does not boot
[03:09] <matt__> i have an amd antholon
[03:09] <biovore> matt__: 32bit?
[03:09] <matt__> ya
[03:09] <jason_> Quintok, i use that as a tool to help him spell.  i change his password every week in a while and he has to learn to spell a new word
[03:09] <Surfnkid> boy im still here
[03:09] <duck--> matt__, use i386
[03:09] <biovore> hmm don't think there any bugs there..
[03:09] <duck--> matt__, sorry, just jumped in, don't know what the question was
[03:09] <Quintok> jason_, heh, that's cute.  I'll have to remember that.
[03:10] <duck--> matt__, what nvidia card do you have?
[03:10] <matt__> and the thing is i have tryed installed nvidia drivers on debian, mandrake, and ubuntu and they all have that same problem
[03:10] <grigora> does anyone know why I loose sound when my laptop wakes up?
[03:10] <jsestri2> i keep getting this error when trying to run wine, can anyone help me, im sure i screwed up a simple config thing..."Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible."
[03:10] <matt__> nvidia fx somthing
[03:10] <jsestri2> i keep getting this error when trying to run wine, can anyone help me, im sure i screwed up a simple config thing..."Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible."
[03:10] <ubuntu> hi anyone know how to change the timeserver ubuntu syncs to at bootup?
[03:10] <jsestri2> oops sorry for twice
[03:10] <biovore> matt__: geforce4 or older?
[03:10] <Quintok> matt, run: "lspci | grep nv*"
[03:11] <jsestri2> ubuntu: its in a file...
[03:11] <matt__> newer
[03:11] <Manika> hi, which program may I use to pause downloads and then continue them another day?
[03:11] <Hit3k> for what?
[03:11] <odin__> jsestri:  is there a windows partition you are trying to get to?
[03:11] <GTroy> hey guys where can I find the folder ~/.xchat2?
[03:12] <jsestri2> odin__: I dont think so...I'm just trying to run it, I've pointed C: to a directory on my linux partion (ext3)
[03:12] <GTroy> so I can load a script?
[03:12] <Jude> GTroy: /home/(your username)/.xchat2 ?
[03:12] <RandolphCarter> GTroy: at ~/.xchat2 :)
[03:12] <GoLoGo> can someone please help me with me 7800gt nvidia card running on dapper drake amd64
[03:12] <Surfnkid> manika not sure if wget would work
[03:12] <Quintok> GTroy: ~ = /home/(your username)/, so cd ~ is the same as cd /home/(your username)
[03:12] <GTroy> how do I go there from nautilus?
[03:12] <jsestri2> ubuntu: /etc/ntp.conf
[03:13] <ubuntu> jsestri2,  ok thanks
[03:13] <Quintok> GTroy: all hidden folders start with a ., press ctrl+H in your home directory and a heap of folders will popup (including .xchat2)
[03:13] <odin__> jsestri2: hm, well so far I have only worked with xwine...
[03:13] <jsestri2> odin__: is xwine easier?
[03:13] <Surfnkid> hey sestri2 how can you edit that ntp.conf thru the terminal window? curious
[03:13] <GTroy> quintok, thanks what I needed to know
[03:13] <jsestri2> odin__: i'm looking for a quick and easy way to wine, nothing special
[03:14] <odin__> jsestri2:  xwine is a gui for wine
[03:14] <jsestri2> odin__: there's no dapper package...damn
[03:14] <odin__> jsestri2:  basically you need wine, and when you run xwine it runs wine in the background
[03:14] <jsestri2> odin__: ah, well i gotta get wine running first then i bet
[03:15] <issaker> does anyone know why i would need to install a console for VMware after i installed vmware server?
[03:15] <Quintok> issaker: because you need a way to communicate with VMware, I think... I thought the console was part of the server install?
[03:15] <Anusien> What is the default root password?
[03:15] <odin__> jsestri2:  what parameters are you using for wine?
[03:15] <jason_> wine is getting better and better.  seems they pop a new release out every couple days
[03:16] <jsestri2> odin__: well i tried it again just now and it appears to be working mostly, error messages or not
[03:16] <Quintok> anusien: root is disabled by default, you use the 'sudo' command with your password to use the root account.  you can change this of course.
[03:17] <simonpca> plop
[03:17] <jason_> biovore, changing the password with passwd doesn't work either.  get the same message 'password too simple'
[03:17] <odin__> jsestri:  I think its just trying to reference to an empty path, specifically a windows partition, but you can change that, at least you can in xwine
[03:17] <GoLoGo> Need help with my 7800gt nvidia card, installed the latest drivers. Distortion will not go away, and still freezes after a while. Thanks.
[03:17] <Surfnkid> what app can i install to auto scroll with my mouse pad?
[03:17] <issaker> quintok, i think it is too
[03:18] <biovore> jason_: then is something in the security policy stuff..  look at the debian system managment manual
[03:18] <Quintok> issaker, it should be in your application menu under... system tools I think.  geez I only had it installed a couple of days ago and I've already forgotten.
[03:18] <mironet> need help to find the linux driver for ezonics icotnact web camera. Look for in google but nothing than windows drivers
[03:18] <Anusien> hrm, I feel like there is some sort of security implications with your root password being your password
[03:18] <biovore> jason_: it somewhere under /etc/pam.d/
[03:18] <openback> how do I read the docs in /usr/share/doc ? I know of man and info, but don't know what uses those files
[03:19] <Quintok> Anusien: it's not the same, root password by default is randomly generated each install of ubuntu
[03:19] <Anusien> well, you can sudo with the same password
[03:19] <wsjunior> hey guy's i've just installed ubuntu on my hp dv5040 and everything seems to be working but at the console i receive a lot of messages: [ 9772.263542]  hdc: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x30  ascq: 0x00  This messege repeats forever and on.. any idea of how to fix that?
[03:19] <issaker> yah quintok, im making a virtual machine right now, im just wondering if im missing anything
[03:20] <Quintok> Anusien: well you need to be able to use root somehow, lol
[03:20] <Anusien> well, I have marginal Fedora experience, so I was waiting for being asked for a root password
[03:20] <QMario> Is there a way to recover my files from an ext3?
[03:20] <biovore> QMario: maybe
[03:21] <Quintok> Anusien: it's so your account is sort-of-root.  so you can use root powers when you need it but for the most part they're disabled.  Yea I know what you mean I was waiting for the root password question too.
[03:21] <biovore> QMario: what you do to bugger it up?
[03:21] <GoLoGo> if no one wants to help, can someone atleast give me a link to a HOWTO guide or something for the latest nvidia cards.
[03:21] <mironet> Hi boys. i already googled looking for drivers for my web camera, but not success
[03:21] <Surfnkid> fedora sucks :(
[03:21] <Surfnkid> maybe i suck at commands
[03:21] <Surfnkid> either way, ubuntu is working :D
[03:21] <QMario> Biovore, " mount -t gmailfs /usr/local/bin/gmailfs.py /my/home/directory -o username=gmailuser, password=gmailpass, fsname=zOlRRa "
[03:21] <wsjunior> i can't use the console.. the following message repeats and just stop when i put a CD at the drive.   [ 9770.286124]  hdc: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x30  ascq: 0x00
[03:21] <biovore> redhat is fine.. rpm just drives me nuts
[03:22] <wsjunior> how to fix that?
[03:22] <Quintok> I'm ex-debian, never actually tried fedora/redhat.
[03:22] <Surfnkid> ex-debian too
[03:22] <Surfnkid> ewww
[03:22] <Surfnkid> got away from that, REAL QUICK
[03:22] <mironet> can some body point me where to find drivers for web camera ezonics icontact
[03:22] <biovore> QMario: try a -o loop in there
[03:22] <mironet> I will apreciate your cooperation
[03:22] <cgr1art> hi,newbie here...can't seem to dual boot with windows,HALL.DLL always seem to get corrupted...any suggestions?
[03:22] <Quintok> debian is good, but you have to know what your doing.
[03:22] <Surfnkid> its good if you're an expert but im not there just yet
[03:23] <Surfnkid> Quintok exactly
[03:23] <biovore> QMario: I am guessing that qmailfs.py is a filesystem..  but that .py extention screems its a py script..  so I am not sure why your tring to mount it for..
[03:23] <QMario> Biovore, what is an "-o loop"?
[03:23] <mironet> well, Thanks guys...sorry to bother you
[03:23] <adamant1988> So, I'm downloading Ubuntu right now, but I'm curious... how much hand holding does it do?
[03:24] <biovore> QMario: -o loop option tells mount to use a file instead of a block device..  so you can mount an .iso file if you wanted
[03:24] <Manika> wget says the file I'm trying to download has a 'too long filename'... still, I must download it, now what? :P
[03:24] <QMario> Is it possible to unmount it?
[03:24] <adamant1988> I've installed Suse, Mepis, PClinuxOS, Mandriva, all the 'user friendlies' but ubuntu... they made me feel really restricted... does anyone here get that feeling from ubuntu?
[03:24] <biovore> QMario: if its mounted.. yes
[03:25] <farous> where can i specify that the startup script calls the gnome-setting-daemon before starting gdm?
[03:25] <GoLoGo> I need help fixing my distortion problem with a 7800gt nvidia card on amd64 system - running Ubuntu Dapper Drake
[03:25] <andrejkw> Hye
[03:25] <Quintok> adamant1988, no not at all... well, atleast not in my opinion.  you can still f-up your linux install like you should be able to.
[03:25] <QMario> It says device is busy.
[03:25] <biovore> adamant1988: apt allows you to be a bit more free, but linux as a desktop is still hit and miss.. linux is ment to be a server.. thus you have to think old school.
[03:25] <andrejkw> how can i get speed of a wireless interface
[03:25] <Anusien> okay, now to configure this thing
[03:25] <andrejkw> like the speed I am connected at?
[03:26] <Bilange> adamant1988:  well maybe the interface isnt really "tolerant", but you still have access to the console/shell/terminal/whatever you want to call it, so you could add anything to the system
[03:26] <Bilange> adamant1988:  if you want a restrictive linux distribution, try Linspire :S
[03:26] <farous> andrejkw: iwconfig should print it out for you
[03:26] <adamant1988> No no, I don't like the restricted feeling.
[03:26] <Surfnkid> anyone know how to turn on the fans on my inspiron 8600 with ubuntu
[03:26] <Surfnkid> or what app
[03:27] <adamant1988> I've dropped a lot of distros that felt wrong and I've got this narrowed down to Ubuntu and debian by elimination
[03:27] <GoLoGo> anyone there?
[03:27] <nn> does 5.10 have the 'server' install stuff?
[03:27] <Bilange> almost no distribution is "really" restrictive, its just a matter of how much you want to customize it
[03:27] <farous> GoLoGo: ask your quest again
[03:27] <Surfnkid> nn like what?
[03:28] <jason_> adamant1988, i've installed them all as well.  i'd say i prefer ubuntu and mandriva.  leaning toward ubuntu because i like the 'debian way' and being up to date.  i do feel restricted a bit, though but am learning to live with it and maybe even think some of that's better than say the distro that has been my main one for 6 years, mandriva.  for instance sudo every command instead of just suing in
[03:28] <GoLoGo> I need help fixing my distortion problem with a 7800gt nvidia card on amd64 system - running Ubuntu Dapper Drake
[03:28] <QMario> How do I tell Ubuntu not to mount a filesystem when it starts?
[03:28] <farous> GoLoGo: best bet is joining ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[03:28] <Bilange> adamant1988:  what do you wanted to do with ubuntu? I mean, what kind of restrictions do you see?
[03:28] <adamant1988> My major restriction is programs.
[03:28] <nn> Surfnkid: im wanting to for now just set the box up as a router/apache/php/mysql deal for a bit until i get more ram and can do a full desktop
[03:28] <Bilange> s/wanted/want
[03:29] <biovore> QMario: /etc/fstab and add the no auto option to the filesystem (look at the cdroms for an example)
[03:29] <adamant1988> I like to be able to test out new programs, and I'm truly afraid of the limitations of repositories
[03:29] <Schalken> how do i find out what version of xorg i am using?
[03:29] <GoLoGo> is this channel only for 5. w/e ubuntu?
[03:29] <biovore> adamant1988: when in doublt built it from spurce
[03:29] <Surfnkid> did u look in SPM?
[03:29] <jason_> adamant1988, well, i did just post that i can't figure out why 'normal' programs aren't in my repositories.   mplayer for instance
[03:29] <adamant1988> I've been looking into installing from source, but people have informed me that that leads to dep. hell
[03:29] <farous> adamant1988: you can always use the source
[03:29] <adamant1988> Gologo: have you reconfigured X?
[03:30] <Bilange> adamant1988:  for your information, debian-made packages does work on ubuntu, its not "really" two seperate worlds... that being said, debian-mades .deb's are not guaranteed to work at 100%, since its two different distribution
[03:30] <Bilange> but it does work
[03:30] <Schalken> does ubuntu use xorg 7?
[03:30] <biovore> there close enough (ubuntu == debian based)
[03:30] <tritium> Schalken: dapper will
[03:30] <farous> Schalken: dapper does
[03:30] <adamant1988> Yeah, I understand that too.  I'm prepared to live without a lot of programs that I got used to because well, I realize it's a different OS. I could live on a Mac easily
[03:31] <Schalken> cool im using dapper
[03:31] <biovore> Schalken: xorg 7 is in testing.. will break alot of stuff atm.
[03:31] <Schalken> awww
[03:31] <Schalken> dont tell me thats the reason opengl doesnt work
[03:31] <farous> so again my question where can i edit the startup script to add gnome-settings-daemon before gdm starts
[03:31] <tritium> Schalken: dapper is out next week
[03:31] <QMario> Biovore, it isn't in fstab.
[03:31] <adamant1988> But for instance, there's this new beta program "SeaMonkey" which is an online suite from mozilla.. I doubt that's in the repositories
[03:31] <Bilange> as for the dependency hell, if you happen to need soemthing not installed, you can try to search on repositories and theres alot of chances that a already made package is ready to be installed for your system
[03:31] <jason_> adamant1988, people say that about mandriva too but i never have any problems when i have to install from source.   you do have to keep track of what you installed from source if you want to also use the package manager.
[03:31] <Schalken> im using dapper beta now
[03:31] <Antipodean> hey all
[03:31] <Surfnkid> nn you look at SPM ?
[03:32] <Bilange> adamant1988:  are you aware of how apt deals with dependencies, by any chance?
[03:32] <Schalken> hi antipod
[03:32] <kkathman> but seamonkey doesnt really need to be in the repos, it can be installed extremely simply
[03:32] <tritium> Schalken: opengl works
[03:32] <adamant1988> Yeah, it downloads the needed dependancies  if there are any missing, correct?
[03:32] <Schalken> okay so it IS my gfx card driver
[03:32] <biovore> adamant1988: yup
[03:32] <Antipodean> um, 1 quick question... I undertstand that the file extension .gtar is for a compressed archive... how do I "unzip" it so to speak?
[03:32] <Bilange> yeah, and if theres anything conflicting (like, older versions of a library with a new downloaded version), the older can be erased if the user wants (with confirmation)
[03:32] <biovore> Schalken: I have had problems with nvidia and xorg 7
[03:33] <ubuntu> buenas
[03:33] <Surfnkid> buenas
[03:33] <tritium> !es
[03:33] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:33] <adamant1988> OK.  I'm still a little sketchy on installing from source, though, but as long as I can download my beta programs and have something to play around with, I'm happy
[03:33] <Schalken> biovore, well im having problems with SiS and xorg7
[03:33] <Surfnkid> mejor en ingles o nos metemos en un grandisimo pedo
[03:33] <Surfnkid> :)
[03:33] <Schalken> :p
[03:33] <biovore> no clue then
[03:33] <jadaz87> Bilange: does gnomebaker support cue files?
[03:33] <farous> adamant1988: you can build a deb package from source really simple too
[03:33] <adamant1988> lately I've been doing that with Operating systems, lol.  I just downloaded Seamonkey for windows I've yet to test it.
[03:33] <Schalken> Antipodean, you can normally just right click on the file and select 'extract here'
[03:33] <tritium> Surfnkid: language, please
[03:33] <QMario> Biovore?
[03:34] <Bilange> so... since I used only Slackware before (and I had a LOT of fun with depedencies, since there was next to nothing to deal with that), ubuntu/debian deals with that issue like a charm.
[03:34] <stasislove> Hi, i installed nvidia drivers without problems, but when i change xconfig file from "nv" to "nvidia" xserver refuse to start saying no module nvidia and could not load glx, any idea what to do?
[03:34] <adamant1988> So wait, if I build the package will it check the dependancies and everything?
[03:34] <lwizardl> whats a good newsgroup binaries downloader besides pan? pan seems to crash and close itself to often for me
[03:34] <Surfnkid> tritium, i know, i just said, lets just speak english or we're in a sh** of trouble
[03:34] <biovore> QMario: the system mounts the volume in /etc/fstab on boot
[03:34] <tritium> stasislove: you installed ubuntu packages?
[03:34] <monteiro> anyone has an hp printer working in dapper ?
[03:34] <farous> tell you what adamant1988 you know the easiest way if you fear installing new packages
[03:34] <tritium> Surfnkid: I can speak Spanish
[03:34] <Surfnkid> oh
[03:34] <Bilange> jadaz87: not sure, theres an ISO button in it, but I dont have any cue/bin to play with
[03:34] <adamant1988> what is that farous?
[03:34] <andrejkw> Hey guys
[03:34] <Antipodean> Schalken: thanks - I tried that, it says "archive type not supported"
[03:34] <farous> adamant1988: just do ./configure than make. do not do make install
[03:34] <biovore> QMario: you just need to tell it noauto in the options in that file.
[03:34] <Surfnkid> i thought you were saying not to spk that language
[03:34] <andrejkw> Do I need linux-restricted-modules for the Atheros AR5212 to work?
[03:35] <tritium> Surfnkid: not exactly
[03:35] <andrejkw> D-Link DWL-G650 Atheros AR5212
[03:35] <Surfnkid> ah
[03:35] <farous> adamant1988: most prob the prog binaries will be under source folder. you can just run the m from there
[03:35] <tritium> yes, andrejkw
[03:35] <farous> to test if they work
[03:35] <Schalken> Antipodean: humph, that normally works for me. if all else fails the archive could be corrupt.
[03:35] <biovore> andrejkw: wifi adaptor?
[03:35] <jason_> Bilange, ok. i have beezy main restricted, breezy-updates main restricted, breezy universe, breezy backports main restricted universe.  are there others i should add?
[03:35] <adamant1988> you mean you can run the software without 'installing' it?
[03:35] <stasislove> tritium, ubuntu packeges? im slightly n00b so i dont know exactrly what you mean but i installed ubutu, upgraded it and folowen howto from ubuntuforums to install.... =\
[03:35] <andrejkw> a wireless card
[03:35] <andrejkw> D-Link DWL-G650
[03:35] <tritium> !tell stasislove about nvidia
[03:35] <biovore> andrejkw: 802.11g?
[03:35] <andrejkw> I installed nvidai drivers, and had to remvoe linux reistriteced modules, and now card is not recognized.
[03:35] <andrejkw> Yes g.
[03:36] <andrejkw> Could that be the cause of it
[03:36] <andrejkw> ?
[03:36] <tritium> andrejkw: you _need_ the l-r-m for nvidia kernel module
[03:36] <biovore> andrejkw: need ndis wrapor probably
[03:36] <adamant1988> That sounds really cool Farous...
[03:36] <Bilange> adamant1988:  well, considering you read the readme/install file saying what was being needed for compiling, like any other distro the compile could halt if there a library needed thats not installed... thats common sense
[03:36] <rootvzla> buenas
[03:36] <farous> adamant1988: most probably after you run make. all the source files are under the src folder. i done that a lot and am running the new lyx 1.4.1 this way
[03:36] <tritium> rootvzla: /j #ubuntu-es
[03:36] <Antipodean> Schalken: well thanks anyhow mate. I'll play around with it
[03:36] <Surfnkid> asi han de estar
[03:36] <Antipodean> Schalken: have a good one ;)
[03:36] <andrejkw> biovore: will it work with ndiswrapper?
[03:36] <adamant1988> so you haven't actually installed it, but you're running it like that?
[03:36] <Schalken> Antipodean: :D
[03:37] <andrejkw> so i can keep my nvidia driver =)
[03:37] <farous> adamant1988: and as Bilange say when you run ./configure it will spell out any required extra pacakges for you
[03:37] <adamant1988> that's awesome... and sounds like an excellent way to test programs.
[03:37] <biovore> andrejkw: no clue.. but I know there isn't navtive driver for it.
[03:37] <Bilange> jason_:  huh? ive missed something here :S
[03:37] <adamant1988> sounds cool. :D
[03:37] <Schalken> can someone tell me whether a gigabyte gfx card with nvidia geforce requires drivers from nvidia or gigabyte?
[03:37] <adamant1988> does building a deb package offer any additional benefits?
[03:37] <stasislove> tritium, well i did install drivers without problem atleast as it sad to me, but when i change xconfig file it refuse to start....
[03:37] <ubuntu> oi
[03:37] <tritium> Schalken: nvidia
[03:38] <ubuntu> c
[03:38] <farous> adamant1988: makes it a lot easier to uninstall it without any problems
[03:38] <tritium> stasislove: you installed ubuntu packages, or something off of nvidia.com?
[03:38] <ubuntu> oi
[03:38] <Bilange> adamant1988:  if somethings goes bad, like some kind of error, google for the errors, most of the time its giving helpful results
[03:38] <Surfnkid> im just looking at the SPM  list of Utilities Catalog, and I've never seen so many apps that actually accomplish things, dont know if microsoft has that many partners
[03:38] <biovore> adamant1988: there is also apt-get source <package> will download all the source code and dependicey
[03:38] <Bilange> I mean, when compiling stuff
[03:38] <tritium> biovore: only source, not dependencies
[03:38] <Schalken> tritium, oh okay so any card with nvidia geforce should have desent linux support, regardless of the card's manufacturer?
[03:38] <jason_> Bilange, i was just curious if i should add repositories because some programs that i consider common are in those.  for instance mplayer.
[03:38] <tritium> apt-get build-dep for build dependencies
[03:39] <stasislove> tritium, ah is that what you ment, i installed/kompiled drivers from nvidia, doesnt it work on ubunu?
[03:39] <biovore> ^ yeah thats it
[03:39] <tritium> Schalken: in theory, yes
[03:39] <farous> biovore: but that only works if the source is in the repos right or am i mistaken?
[03:39] <tritium> stasislove: it does, but it's not supported here.  We prefer the ubuntu packages
[03:39] <jason_> Schalken, i've never had problems with them.   well, not too many problems
[03:39] <biovore> farous: rgr.. its the source code use to make a .deb file
[03:39] <adamant1988> Ok, so what I'm hearing is that it's best to make a deb package if I have to dl from source because it's easier to uninstall
[03:39] <tritium> stasislove: please read the wiki page re: nvidia, and use the ubuntu packages
[03:39] <Bilange> jason_:  I was doing fine with "universe multiverse" as far as mplayer is concerned
[03:39] <farous> ok thanx
[03:39] <Schalken> tritium, 'in theory', 'in theory' communism works
[03:40] <biovore> lolz
[03:40] <martim> hi, anybody having problems with broken packages (ntp-server scpecifically) after today's update?
[03:40] <tritium> Schalken: nothing is perfect, right?  some people have had problems with nvidia on various cards, but not as many as with ati cards
[03:40] <Schalken> tritium, cool thnx for your help
[03:40] <jason_> Bilange, don't see a multiverse here.   lets see if i can figure out how to add it
[03:40] <farous> adamant1988: i use this link and if you follow it you will find it 3 steps to build deb package from source http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/
[03:40] <stasislove> tritium, ok ok, ill look into it.... thanks, hope itll start orelese ill be back with same question :P later
[03:40] <tritium> Schalken: sure
[03:40] <adamant1988> If I make a package the synaptic package manager will handle the actual installation correct?
[03:40] <tritium> stasislove: take it easy :)
[03:40] <Schalken> (note: Schalken holds no opinion regarding communism)
[03:41] <Bilange> jason_:  I dont know if w32codecs are in the ubuntu repositories, otherwise you could just google w32codecs or download em from mplayerhq.hu, the installation is quite easy if you're familiar with console
[03:42] <farous> adamant1988: if the deb package install correctly. you can for synaptic is just a gui frontend for apt
[03:42] <jason_> Bilange, i'm familiar with console.  it's not that i need codecs.  mplayer isn't installed.  or found when i try to apt-get it
[03:42] <adamant1988> aha, got it :)
[03:42] <adamant1988> You guys are really helpful and patient. I like that :)
[03:42] <adamant1988> I have to admit, learning linux for me has been as easy as learning a second language, not much...
[03:43] <Bilange> ah, well heres the only line I added in source.list : deb http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[03:43] <zexr0> Can I install windows on VMWare player or I need another version ?
[03:43] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[03:43] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[03:43] <martim> I am having problems with broken package after todays upgrade....with ntp-server, and it wont fix...
[03:43] <Bilange> (thats a local mirror, but it gave me what I needed for mplayer)
[03:43] <gnomefreak> martim: sudo apt-get -f install
[03:43] <adamant1988> I'm so trained to think the windows way that it's rediculous.  I hope that Ubuntu or Debian will make things easier transition wise
[03:43] <gnomefreak> martim: type that only no packave
[03:43] <RandolphCarter> martim: sudo aptitude keep-all?
[03:43] <gnomefreak> package name
[03:44] <Bilange> beware though, thats a dapper mirror-- replace if with breezy if you're not using dapper
[03:44] <martim> gnomefreak: doesnt work
[03:44] <Surfnkid> i added the blinking LED's to my laptop
[03:44] <Surfnkid> now how in the hell do i configure them
[03:44] <openback_> what is the proper way to read the docs in /usr/share/doc?
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> blinking leds?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> martim: what packages does it say are broeken?
[03:45] <Dr_Willis>  openback_  depenmds on what the doc file is.. :P zmore whatever.gz is common
[03:45] <Schalken> i need to compile a packeage that says 'You need the whole XFree86 or X.org source tree to build the SiS XFree86/X.org driver', does Ubuntu come with that?
[03:45] <Surfnkid> Dr there's a package to make your caps, num, scroll lock blink
[03:45] <martim>  /var/cache/apt/archives/ntp-server_1%3a4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu5_i386.deb
[03:45] <linuxcrazy> hey I need some help
[03:45] <martim> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:45] <Surfnkid> Knight Rider style
[03:45] <gnomefreak> ahhhh
[03:46] <gnomefreak> martim: this dapper?
[03:46] <linuxcrazy> for some reason when trying to install VLC, it can't mark othe libs for installation
[03:46] <openback_> Dr_Willis: oh, so there isn't something that goes through all of it, like an or info?
[03:46] <martim> yeap,started an hour ago or so
[03:46] <openback_> Dr_Willis: *man
[03:46] <martim> after the upgrade
[03:46] <gnomefreak> martim: i would say reboot and try again
[03:46] <gnomefreak> martim: i think dpkg is just busy (hanging)
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> openback_,  hmm... i think kde or gnome have a man:\\\ thing.. not sure if any of them look in \usr\share\doc however.
[03:46] <martim> other people are also complaining about it in ubuntuforums.org, so it's not local
[03:47] <gnomefreak> martim: yes i know
[03:47] <linuxcrazy> anybody know how to resolve this?
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> martim,  yep. same issue.
[03:47] <swim> has anyone install nvidia-legacy in dapper? I'm having a very difficult time
[03:47] <gnomefreak> it happens normally the first while after biooting up to it
[03:47] <martim> ok, Ill try rebooting. Thanks.
[03:47] <openback_> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks a lot
[03:48] <Hit3k> Can someone help me with my wireless It turns on but doesnt connect
[03:48] <linuxcrazy> I can't install vlc because it says there are packages that cannot be installed
[03:48] <linuxcrazy> could someone please tell me why
[03:48] <_jjc> can anyone help me compile ieee80211?
[03:48] <_stefan> how do i change my firefox profile?
[03:48] <linuxcrazy> you need build-essential
[03:48] <_jjc> i've got the kernel headers and build-essentials installed
[03:48] <_jjc> but I am getting Error: struct ieee80211_device has no member named tkip_countermeasures?
[03:48] <linuxcrazy> jjc: build-essential
[03:49] <linuxcrazy> ok
[03:49] <linuxcrazy> do you have make?
[03:49] <jdong|coreduo> can anyone think of any major differences between 32-bit and 64-bit Ubuntu's /etc?
[03:49] <jdong|coreduo> I'm trying to plan as smooth a migration from 32-bit to 64-bit as possible
[03:49] <jdong|coreduo> sources.list immediately comes to mind... there can be discrepancies
[03:49] <cpare> join #firefox
[03:50] <cpare> hello
[03:50] <_jjc> linuxcrazy--got it
[03:50] <_jjc> here is my error:
[03:50] <cpare> :)
[03:50] <_jjc> struct ieee80211_device has no member named tkip_countermeasures?
[03:50] <Bilford> who has 64-bit computers?
[03:50] <eimajenthat> I do
[03:50] <Bilford> is that what they sell these days
[03:50] <jdong|coreduo> Bilford: they're pretty damn common nowadays :)
[03:51] <swim> could anyone help me please? I cannot figure out how to install nvidia-legacy on dapper
[03:51] <eimajenthat> but all my software is compiled for 386s
[03:51] <jdong|coreduo> Bilford: AMD64's, most newer P4's are 64-bit capable
[03:51] <Bilford> is 64-bit faster
[03:51] <eimajenthat> no, just mroe magical
[03:51] <ubuntu> help
[03:51] <jdong|coreduo> Bilford: depends
[03:51] <Bilford> lol
[03:51] <andrejkw> Do I need linux-restricted-modules for the Atheros AR5212 to work? I tried ndiswrapper, but it's saying that the Hardware is not present, even though the card shows up in Device Manager
[03:51] <jdong|coreduo> Bilford: for "everyday" things, not significantly faster
[03:51] <QMario> THANK GOD!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :) ;) :) ;) ;) ;)YAY!!!! IT WORKS!!!! THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!!
[03:52] <QMario> YAY!!!!
[03:52] <jason_> bilange guess i should find out the difference between breezy and dapper and which one i should use
[03:52] <Surfnkid> :D what'd i do? :P
[03:52] <QMario> It is finished.
[03:52] <Surfnkid> what did you get working
[03:52] <QMario> Me?
[03:52] <jdong|coreduo> Bilford: but I've see video encoding performance increase by 20-50% on 64-bit
[03:52] <Surfnkid> yep
[03:52] <QMario> The directory works now.
[03:52] <Xinux> The caps button.
[03:52] <Surfnkid> ah
[03:52] <QMario> I just deleted the line from /etc/mtab
[03:52] <Surfnkid> congrats :)
[03:52] <stasislove> tritium, well i did exactly as it sad, when i restart xserver i get nvidia logo and then it crashes again
[03:52] <Surfnkid> :-D
[03:52] <QMario> Linux is scary, but fun...
[03:52] <eimajenthat> Is there an ubuntu package for ISPConfig, webmin, or something similar?
[03:52] <Surfnkid> tell me about it
[03:53] <jdong|coreduo> eimajenthat: ubuntu has webmin packages
[03:53] <eimajenthat> jdong|coreduo: does it now?
[03:53] <jdong|coreduo> eimajenthat: they're in universe
[03:53] <stasislove> trouble installing nvidia drivers, can anybody help?
[03:54] <tritium> stasislove: have you looked at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[03:54] <Surfnkid> crap i just took off the GAIM from the right top toolbar
[03:54] <Bilford> I guess 32 bit will be like 8 bit is now
[03:54] <Surfnkid> how do i get it back there?
[03:54] <Bilford> soon
[03:54] <jason_> bilange seems like that's the repository i needed
[03:54] <Surfnkid> on the tray
[03:54] <Madpilot> Surfnkid, it should put itself back there
[03:54] <Surfnkid> thought so
[03:54] <Surfnkid> brb then
[03:54] <Surfnkid> mistakes mistakes
[03:55] <martim> no success...
[03:55] <stasislove> tritium, (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[03:55] <stasislove> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy and more, i dont know what to do
[03:55] <Zambezi> How can I make Ubuntu Breezy server more secure?
[03:55] <eimajenthat> jdong|coreduo: which repo?  I've got universe enabled for archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, but I don't see webmin
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> Zambezi,  i recall  some work in a locked down ubuntu in the wiki/forums.. but not sure wht all it did differently
[03:56] <eimajenthat> !universe
[03:56] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:56] <jdong|coreduo> eimajenthat: hmm, it was there in breezy days...
[03:57] <Surfnkid> nope i gotta figure this out
[03:57] <Schalken> how come when i try to compile something it says 'compiler cannot create executables'?
[03:58] <Zambezi> Dr_Willis: Maybe it's possible to uses another Linuxversion instead even if I prefer Ubuntu cause it easy to ge help.
[03:58] <Surfnkid> Madpilot I exited and started gaim but its not on the tray again, any suggestions
[03:58] <Madpilot> Surfnkid, no idea - I use XChat, and don't use any other IM networks so far
[03:59] <Surfnkid> gulp
[03:59] <HellDragon`> glups
[03:59] <HellDragon`> im a fish
[03:59] <bluelotus> probably a FAQ, how do I install an RPM?
[03:59] <Surfnkid> i need to stop messin with stuff already
[04:00] <stasislove> i need profesional help with nvidia drivers, anyone?
[04:00] <Surfnkid> I dont want this to become a crash and reinstall "microsoft-style" kind of deal
[04:00] <lwizardl> whats a good newsgroup binaries downloader besides pan? pan seems to crash and close itself to often for me
[04:00] <randyjc> Helloo! :)
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> Zambezi,  it pays to learn the ins and outs of security :) and it all boils down to how paranoid you want to be.
[04:00] <jason_> aha dapperdrake is next release... maybe i should use it.  funny mandriva lost the 'drake' and ubuntu's adding it
[04:01] <Schalken> what do i need to enable GCC to create executables?
[04:01] <Zambezi> Dr_Willis: Is it possible to chat i PM instead?
[04:02] <lfelipe> Anyone knows how I can setup eclipse to use sun's j2se instead of gcj ?
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> Zambezi,  i really aint got much more to say :P i forget that name of the 'locked down ubuntu varient' Perhaps some one else will rember.
[04:02] <lfelipe> it's kinda urgent
[04:02] <Anusien> How do I find out what version of XFree86 I'm running?
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> Zambezi,  theres always selinux, and that bastille harding system.. and other extremes
[04:03] <moshe> does anyone know why Openoffice in dapper has been updated practically on a daily basis for the last week?
[04:04] <wims> does anybody know of a xfire compatible / plug-able IM client ?
[04:04] <Zambezi> Dr_Willis: I prefer a very high level of security. So I don't think that just Breezy-server is enought.
[04:04] <RandolphCarter> moshne: zcat /usr/share/doc/openoffice.org/changelog.Debian.gz | less
[04:04] <Schalken> moshe, i would call that a good thing. and probably a reason for me to start updating
[04:04] <linuxcrazy> ok, : (guy_I'm helping_out): "oh, that's interesting...one with Community maintained (universe) has sections that says "main restricted universe""
[04:04] <linuxcrazy> is that ok?
[04:04] <moshe> Schalken, doesn't it strike you as odd, especially since the official website hasn't had such updates?
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> Zambezi,  if you 'perfer' it then you really should be doing real research on it. :P not just asking around in irc channels. Or course how high is high.. and it all boils down to the job the machine is doing.
[04:05] <Madpilot> Anusien, you're not running any version of Xfree86, probably. Ubuntu uses Xorg.
[04:05] <Anusien> oh, hrm
[04:05] <Surfnkid> Mad there's an option for the taskbar on GAIM, its set but it wont show. so
[04:05] <Surfnkid> im restarting
[04:05] <Surfnkid> and im leaving this thing alone
[04:05] <Anusien> I guess I'm just missing some random libs.  I'm trying to patch my touchpad
[04:05] <ryle> I have Debian Menu installed so I can find out what I have installed, but how do I run it?
[04:05] <cpare> someone have time to help me with a flash player firefox plugin problem?
[04:05] <Madpilot> Anusien, I think the very first version of Ubuntu (4.10) still used Xfree86. Later versions have all used Xorg
[04:06] <Zambezi> Dr_Willis: But people here can give me an idea of what I should look at. Like I installed IDS on my firewall.
[04:06] <Schalken> capre: you on x86?
[04:06] <cpare> yep
[04:06] <nickrud> ryle, you need to go into the alacarte menu editor, and enable the debian menu entry there
[04:07] <Schalken> cpare: okay, so whats the problem?
[04:07] <stasislove> i get unable to find /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy when i try to start nvidia drivers i just installed, how to fix that?
[04:07] <Anusien> Does Debian also use Xorg?
[04:07] <newbuntu> Is it possible to be connected remotely to your desktop and drag files over to the other computer your on? Im connected to my home desktop but I cant seem to drag files over..
[04:07] <cpare> Schalken - I have copied the 2 files to the /home/chris/.mozilla/plugins
[04:07] <lfelipe> anyonw knows how I can setup eclipse to use sun's j2sdk instead of the default gcj one ? kinda urgent
[04:07] <cpare> but it still doesnt show as an installed plugin
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> newbuntu,  how are you 'remotely' connecting?
[04:08] <newbuntu> Krdc desktop sharing
[04:08] <cpare> I have also copied them to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[04:08] <Madpilot> Anusien, no idea, I've never run Debian.
[04:08] <cpare> still nothing though...
[04:09] <nickrud> Anusien, yes, the developers here & there overlap a lot
[04:09] <jsestri2> anyone know their sound devices?
[04:09] <rootvzla> buenas
[04:09] <jason_> stasislove i'm new to unbutu but i've installed nvidia drivers 100s of times.  have you read the docs?  because there might be something specific to ubuntu i'm not aware of.  but the issue you're having sounds a lot like one i've had in mandriva.  i'd make sure the nvidia driver is loaded.  sudo modprobe nvidia.  on some of my mandriva boxes i had to add the line 'nvidia' to modprobe.preload.  also check your edits of config file.
[04:09] <Schalken> cpare, you on dapper or breezy?
[04:09] <newbuntu> I wanted to connect my computer and my girlfriends remotely so I can access my system, but also so I can move music files over to a shared folder or something
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> newbuntu,  then thats just a vnc variant. and no it cant do it that way
[04:10] <rootvzla> buenas
[04:10] <rootvzla> algun canal de ubuntu en espaol?
[04:10] <nickrud> !es
[04:10] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:11] <newbuntu> okay thanks
[04:11] <stasislove> jason_, well i get the problem when i change drivers from nv to nvidia, and then xserver refuses to start
[04:11] <^Gimli^> !no
[04:11] <ubotu> ^Gimli^: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:11] <Anusien> Hrm, not running XFree86 maeks patching it more difficult
[04:11] <ryle> nickrud: I went into my menu editor to add debian menu, but I don't know the command to run it so I can't add it
[04:11] <jason_> stasislove, yes, you will because the 2d nv driver is hard to get to not work :)
[04:11] <Schalken> what colour is the waste bin (on the lower panel) on the updated dapper?
[04:12] <nickrud> ryle, it's just an extra menu. Do you see debian there, probably the third entry on the left pane
[04:12] <jason_> stasislove, is the nvidia driver loaded?
[04:13] <stasislove> jason_, modprobe nvidia gave no output...
[04:13] <nickrud> ryle, if you don't see it, you need to add a package or two
[04:13] <jason_> stasislove, that means it loaded ok
[04:14] <ryle> nickrud: ohh, I'm an idiot, sorry
[04:14] <jason_> stasislove, what does the xorg log file say?
[04:14] <wsjunior> i've created an pppoe connection with pppoeconf, now i dont need it anymore, how to delete it?
[04:14] <_jjc> anyone know how to enable XVGA resolutions for widescreen hplaptops?
[04:14] <stasislove> jason_, well thats good, but why doesnt it start when i change xconfig to "nvidia" then ? it says that it can not find /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[04:15] <simonpca> ++
[04:15] <Hit3k> Can someone help me with my wireless? It wont connect but turns on
[04:15] <jason_> stasislove, don't know. never seen that
[04:15] <nickrud> wsjunior, you'd delete the dsl-provider file in each of /etc/chatscripts & /etc/ppp/peers
[04:16] <wsjunior> nickrud, thank u!
[04:16] <joe1121> can someone help me with an issue?  I want to change the font that terminal uses but cannot find anything.  Am i just being an idiot here?
[04:16] <nickrud> I knew all that time on lfs wasn't wasted ;)
[04:16] <stasislove> jason_, i dont even have a folder calld xserver in X11 so.... whow to get that, maybe i must install something but i folowed a howto to install so they should have mentioned it then o.0 im confused =)
[04:17] <Hit3k> joe1121, Edit > Current Profile and go from there :)
[04:18] <seek> Hello, I tried installing vmware on ubuntu.  It says the kernel needs to be compiled with GCC 4.0.  I apt-get install kernel-sources, and try to bunzip it.
[04:18] <seek> Then when I try to make menuconfig it gives me missing file errors
[04:18] <seek> What is the correct way to recompile the kernel for ubuntu?
[04:18] <jason_> stasislove, yeah, the first time through the instructions tends to such
[04:18] <dli> seek, sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev kernel-package
[04:19] <Anusien> How do I exit XWindows and get a command-line prompt?
[04:19] <dli> Anusien, Ctl-Alt-F1
[04:20] <jason_> stasislove, for fun you can try adding nvidia to /etc/modprobe.preload and restarting to see if that helps.  doesn't seem like you're getting anywhere
[04:21] <joe1121> hit3k, thanks that worked.
[04:21] <Madpilot> Anusien, Ctrl+Alt+[F1-F6]  - and Ctrl+Alt+F7 gets you back to X
[04:21] <stasislove> jason_, yes im stuck, thanks ill try that, here is exact the error message i get, (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[04:21] <stasislove> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[04:22] <kayde> i need help with Infared syncranisation
[04:22] <jason_> stasislove sounds like that could do it.  did you compile it yourself or install from a package?
[04:22] <Anusien> madpilot: I need x to actually be dead
[04:22] <MorbidHunger> dude my aunt ave me 60 bucks
[04:23] <Madpilot> Anusien, there's a terminal command to kill X, but I can never remember it... sorry :|
[04:23] <jason_> stasislove also make sure the glx line is uncommented.  and sometimes in mandriva the install results in a glx llne that wouldn't work for me and i had to edit it.
[04:24] <eimajenthat> hey, I installed nvidia-settings and it removed nvidia-glx.  Why?
[04:24] <Surfnkid> Ok, to all those of you who by mistake delete icons on the taskbar, I had deleted my GAIM icon from the taskbar and I got it back by adding a new panel and selecting notifications. The icon came right up. just FYI
[04:24] <Madpilot> Surfnkid, so you actually deleted your notification area?
[04:24] <stasislove> jason_, acually i did both, firsth i compiled it from nvidias website then i refused to start becouse it could not find module nvidia, so i asked here and tritium told me to install packege so i did that in now im where i am, but i dont have modprobe.preload in etc o.0
[04:24] <Surfnkid> think so
[04:25] <Surfnkid> but i didnt know how, so i added whatever was on the panel setting thing
[04:25] <Madpilot> Surfnkid, ah. Anything on the Gnome panels can be added by right-clicking and choosing "Add To Panel", just fyi
[04:25] <kayde> i need help with Infared syncranisation
[04:25] <Surfnkid> right, but im so unfamiliar with each function that i go nuts just doing something
[04:26] <jason_> stasislove, you don't have /etc/modprobe.preload
[04:26] <jason_> ?  hmm, i do.
[04:26] <Subhuman> !microphone
[04:26] <ubotu> Subhuman: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:26] <Subhuman> anyone know how to set up a usb mircophone?
[04:27] <Subhuman> ubuntu wont seem to detect it fullu
[04:27] <stasislove> jason_, no i have a directory modprobe, but there is no modprobe.preload
[04:27] <MorbidHunger> Subhuman: thats interesting
[04:27] <Surfnkid> I did try adding the GAIM panel, but its not an option, so I figured the notifications icon had to be on to show what progs were on
[04:27] <Surfnkid> and whoala
[04:27] <Subhuman> MorbidHunger, it sees it, but wont see it as audio inpu
[04:28] <kayde> i need help with Infared syncranisation
[04:28] <kayde> i need help with Infared syncranisation
[04:28] <kayde> i need help with Infared syncranisation
[04:28] <trevor> could someone help me out with mounting samba shares?
[04:28] <Surfnkid> procrastination?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[04:28] <ubotu> from memory, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:29] <Surfnkid> oh no, sorry kayde but infrared is out of my knowledge :P
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> got anything more specific to ask trevor ?
[04:29] <trevor> yes
[04:29] <trevor> ok...here's my problem..
[04:29] <kayde> Surfnkid, dam:(
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> trevor,  i often use smb4k to browse/ount them.
[04:29] <Surfnkid> what laptop you got?
[04:29] <kayde> DELL LAPTOP ARE CRUD!!
[04:29] <trevor> i have all of my music on another ubuntu box....and i want to listen to them on Banshee on this ubuntu computer
[04:30] <kayde> Mine has screwd up BAD
[04:30] <JimH_> can someone help me with freepops ... I installed using apt-get install freepops but it's not on
[04:30] <kayde> whats freepops?
[04:30] <kayde> what was it under?
[04:30] <Schalken> does anyone happen to have a geforce fx?
[04:30] <JimH_> a pop3
[04:30] <Bilange> kayde:  whats up with dell laptops? I was planning to buy one someday
[04:31] <kayde> JimH_, was it an application?
[04:31] <MorbidHunger> Bilange:please dont
[04:31] <jesper_> why isnt it possible to logg on the msn account in ubuntu?
[04:31] <JimH_> it brings mail in from a service like hotmail etc into mail client
[04:31] <Surfnkid> Im on a Dell i8600 1.4Ghz 1024MB 60GB, 17" wide, ATI 128 and so far everything works, including wlan0
[04:31] <JimH_> yes kayde
[04:31] <jdbolt> hi, i was wondering if someone could help me out getting rhythmbox from source
[04:31] <kayde> Bilange, they screw up easily, and the motherboard os bad-shortciruts easy etc
[04:31] <MorbidHunger> im not much of a fan of dell
[04:31] <MorbidHunger> id prefer a toshiba or a gateway
[04:31] <jdbolt> i know how to compiile source code but not how to use cvs
[04:31] <JonathanKent> how i can add a one user to have privilege of sudo?
[04:31] <jesper_> fu
[04:31] <nordle> hello, upgrading from flight6 to rc, firestart is bitching that ppp0 does not exist.  Its true, ppp0 has done a runner, but should firestarter package not be able to deal with the vanishing act.  The upgrade bombs out after 3 hours (P2-266), because of firestarter.  Anyone know if I should report a bug or....what is the best way to deal with this?
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> trevor,  and ya access them and it wants do townload... not just 'play' them eh? :P
[04:32] <Bilange> kayde:  oh :S
[04:32] <trevor> Dr_Willis, correct
[04:32] <Surfnkid> I know morbid, but when you have a higher chance of getting a free laptop due to knowing someone who can get you a free one from a UPS truck, hell
[04:32] <JonathanKent> ?
[04:32] <Surfnkid> its better than anything :D
[04:32] <Bilange> at least they are guaranteed for some time :/
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> trevor,  now ya know why i use smb4k to brows/mount the shares as needed. :P
[04:32] <trevor> ok...im installing it right now
[04:32] <Schalken> whats firestarter do?
[04:32] <kayde> JimH_, then applications-akseccorys...
[04:32] <trevor> thanks Dr_Willis!
[04:33] <lampshade> What's the first step in diagnosing a microphone problem, what command can I use to find out if the mic port is detected and installed properly
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> trevor,  ya could set up fstab to do it.. but i find it easier to just use smb4k. (it will alwo want you to set the suid bit on smbmount and smbumount )  its in the faq.
[04:33] <nordle> Schalken: Its a firewall package.
[04:33] <jason_> stasislove, i think maybe it's different on ubuntu i found a line in this file: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc
[04:33] <JimH_> not sure what you mean kayde
[04:33] <Surfnkid> ok gotta get ready bbl
[04:33] <kayde> JimH_, **accsessorys
[04:33] <kayde> JimH_, it should be there
[04:33] <eimajenthat> nvidia-glx is the nvidia graphics driver, right?
[04:34] <JimH_> you mean it is under acessories?  and where might I find that
[04:34] <dli> eimajenthat, you need the nvidia kernel module
[04:34] <JonathanKent> how i can add a one user to have privilege of sudo?
[04:35] <eimajenthat> dli: I have it.  Do I need both?
[04:35] <dli> jonathaN, " sudo gpasswd -a jonathaN admin "
[04:35] <dli> eimajenthat, yes
[04:35] <zx8> at the command line i want to kill all processes with the CMD collum that have firefox in it
[04:35] <moc_cando> what is the minimum system requirements?
[04:35] <zx8> how do i do that?
[04:36] <dli> jonathaN, logout, and login again, it should work
[04:36] <moc_cando> for ubuntu
[04:36] <moc_cando> anybody pls
[04:36] <eimajenthat> dli: Okay, so why did nvidia-glx get removed when I installed nvidia-settings?
[04:36] <zx8> moc_cando pentium 300mhz
[04:36] <issaker> how do i make change to grub under my user account?
[04:36] <stasislove> jason_, thanks ill see if it helps, but i fount another strange thing, it says install "nvidia-settings" and then isntall "nvidia-glx", but when i install nvidia-glx it uninstalls nvidia setting, cant have both, may be that i dont know, but ill try nvidia-kernel-nkc
[04:36] <Madpilot> moc_cando, 128Mb RAM, more is better
[04:36] <dli> eimajenthat, no idea
[04:36] <Madpilot> moc_cando, and 2Gb min. drive space for the install
[04:37] <dibblego> I have followed the instructions for a boot up script at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBootupHowto but the script is not executing - I have to manually start it - is there a log or something I can look at?
[04:37] <dli> Madpilot, what there's the number 128MB?
[04:37] <Jude> So, where do the mysql header files hide on ubuntu?
[04:37] <jason_> stasislove, sounds like you and eimajenthat are in sync
[04:37] <issaker> seems like /boot/grub/menu.lst is a read only, and only root can do it
[04:37] <issaker> does that mean i have to edit it in terminal?
[04:37] <moc_cando> i have 2.5 gb hard drive
[04:37] <Madpilot> dli, hmm, on several Ubuntu docs I've read - can't cite exact URL right now, but have a look around the main ubuntu.com site
[04:37] <moc_cando> will it be ok? and a 64 mb of ram
[04:37] <eimajenthat> stasislove: you're having the same problem?
[04:38] <Kyral> moc_cando: you may wanna try Damn Small Linux
[04:38] <Kyral> for something like that
[04:38] <stasislove> jason_, hehe but i was here firsth =) anyway i have only alias char-major-195* nvidia
[04:38] <stasislove>  in the file
[04:38] <abbot45> can someone help me?  for some reason my cds & mp3 player are mounting, but the icons aren't showing up on my desktop or in Places.
[04:38] <stasislove> eimajenthat, yes i think so , i whavent red what you wrote =)
[04:39] <issaker> grub help anyone?
[04:39] <stasislove> jason_, is it like yours?
[04:39] <jason_> stasislove, don't know what to say.  the nvidia driver just installed here with no problems.
[04:39] <jason_> stasislove, yep
[04:39] <issaker> how do i make changes to menu.lst
[04:39] <Blippe> is there a way to check what is listening on port 111 and 780 on my machine?
[04:39] <Kyral> Blippe: netstat -tap as root
[04:39] <moc_cando> i ubuntu bigger than xp in space?
[04:40] <jason_> stasislove, have you started with just a command line, then modprobe nvidia. then startx ?
[04:40] <Blippe> thanks Kyral
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> moc_cando,  i dont think so.
[04:40] <Kyral> moc_cando: Default barebones is like....512 MB in HD Space
[04:40] <Kyral> moc_cando: but seriously, for that kinda hardware
[04:40] <stasislove> jason_, well.... it installed for me to i even get nvidia splash screen when i reboot xserver, but then it crashes with that strange error.... no i havent tested that ill try that now
[04:40] <Kyral> moc_cando: Damn Small Linux is more suited
[04:40] <seek> I'm getting: make[1] : *** [arch/x86_64/ia32/ia32_ioctl.o]  Error 1
[04:40] <seek>              When I try to recompile my kernel.
[04:40] <Spaceraver> hi
[04:41] <dli> seek, read about kernel-package
[04:41] <eimajenthat> had nvidia-glx and the the kernel mod installed, working fine
[04:41] <moc_cando> how about the video minimum requirement
[04:41] <Spaceraver> eeh... join??
[04:41] <Kyral> moc_cando: video minimum requirement/
[04:41] <sponix> I had to steal the xorg.conf from the Gentoo install to get a better resolution :P
[04:41] <Kyral> WTF?
[04:41] <eimajenthat> but I installed nvidia-settings, and it removes nvidia-glx
[04:41] <Spaceraver> doh
[04:41] <sponix> not sure why, config looks nearly the same to the nekkid eye
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> minimim req... a video device. :P
[04:41] <MorbidHunger> wats a good app to burn cd images?
[04:41] <Kyral> any device
[04:42] <Kyral> And D-Sub out
[04:42] <dibblego> I have this script in /etc/init.d/ http://rafb.net/paste/results/eUeKhs11.html and a link from /etc/rcS.d but the script doesn't seem to have been running after boot - how can I find out why?
[04:42] <Kyral> err
[04:42] <MorbidHunger> im having trouble burning one
[04:42] <Kyral> any d-sub out
[04:42] <moc_cando> really? will it run on 4mb?
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> I got a ubuntu system set up as a headless fileserver
[04:42] <eimajenthat> which is stupid, because nvidia-glx is on of nvidia-settings' recommended packages
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> it could run without a video card. :P
[04:42] <Kyral> moc_cando: don't expect games though :P
[04:42] <stasislove> eimajenthat, yep, you cant have glx and settings installed at the same time, same problem here, i think
[04:42] <moc_cando> coz i don't know if it will run on my antique pc hehe
[04:42] <sponix> Dr_Willis thats tight
[04:42] <Kyral> moc_cando: Damn Small Linux is right up your alley
[04:42] <dli> moc_cando, not ubuntu
[04:42] <Kyral> seriusly
[04:43] <MorbidHunger> thats tighter than sponixes moms pussy
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> sponix,  its got 'issues' whenever it needs me to  manually do somting - Like if a fsck fails/power failure. :(
[04:43] <Antipodean> hey, if I paste in a few lines from my terminal, would that help anybody here in telling me why the source I downloaded wont comile?
[04:43] <moc_cando> yah.. i will run it on ubuntu coz it's slow on xp it only has 64mb of ram
[04:43] <eimajenthat> stasislove: makes no f*ing sense
[04:43] <dli> moc_cando, no point in running such old, waste of electricity
[04:43] <Kyral> moc_cando: go to www.damnsmalllinux.org
[04:43] <sponix> Dr_Willis: yeah, slight down side ;)
[04:43] <Kyral> dli: I disagree
[04:43] <Kyral> BIND9 can run quite well on something like that
[04:43] <pip`> how do i search in dapper ??
[04:43] <MorbidHunger> hey im having a little trouble burning a cd image
[04:43] <sponix> aye, does xubuntu-desktop need a repos in my apt.conf or what ?
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> sponix,  yea.. i guess if i had a SERIAL terminal i coudkl reroute the boot/console to it.. hmm.. i DO have a serial terminal...
[04:43] <Kyral> MorbidHunger: k3b, graveman, or gnomebaker
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> sponix,  no.
[04:44] <MorbidHunger> thanx mate
[04:44] <Kyral> sponix: IIRC its in Universe
[04:44] <sponix> current stuff I have doesn't want to acknowledge its existance ;)
[04:44] <gnomefreak> sponix: no it uses the same repos ubuntu uses
[04:44] <Antipodean> hey, if I paste in a few lines from my terminal, would that help anybody here in telling me why the source I downloaded wont compile?
[04:44] <Kyral> pip`: search for...?
[04:44] <stasislove> eimajenthat, well if i skipped settings and installed glx and it seems to work, exept that xserver crashes =)
[04:44] <moc_cando> what is damnsmall linux?
[04:44] <MorbidHunger> it has a lock emblem though, if i run the app as sudo would i be able to burn it?
[04:44] <Kyral> Antipodean: pastebin
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> Antipodean,  you could paste them to pastebin :P
[04:44] <eggzeck> Antipodean, don't paste here please. Use http://pastebin.com
[04:44] <Spaceraver> moc_cando just what it says... damn small
[04:44] <Kyral> moc_cando: a distro specilizing in low power resources
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> moc_cando,  a 50mb disrto.
[04:44] <eimajenthat> stasislove: hmm, I don't have that part, far as I know
[04:44] <sponix> I'm running on a fairly standard/generic install... I need to add Universe to my repos list ?
[04:44] <Kyral> with X and everything
[04:45] <Kyral> Sometimes DSL amazes me lol
[04:45] <MorbidHunger> sponix: probally should
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> a DSL live cd - is dang handy tool for your compute tool box.
[04:45] <moc_cando> ok
[04:45] <seek> I'm getting make[1] : *** [arch/x86_64/ia32/ia32_ioctl.o]  Error 1
[04:45] <seek>    when I try to recompile my kernel.  Anyone have any idea how to fix this?  TIA
[04:45] <Antipodean> will paste into pastebin, thanks folks ;)
[04:45] <Kyral> Dr_Willis: Have you used DSL-N yet?
[04:45] <moc_cando> whats the site again?
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> Kyral,  never heard of it.. whats diff about it?
[04:45] <stasislove> msg eimajenthat https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia i use this guide
[04:46] <stasislove> ups
[04:46] <jesper_> niggers
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> 0_o
[04:46] <jesper_> 0_o
[04:46] <Kyral> Dr_Willis: As the DSL folks describe it, DSL's bigger brother
[04:46] <Kyral> Dr_Willis: still only around 100 MB
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> Kyral,  ahh. Uber-dsl :P
[04:46] <Kyral> Yah
[04:46] <Kyral> its quite nice
[04:46] <Kyral> only missing ONE thing
[04:46] <Kyral> JFS-Utils....
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> I been messing with SLAX lately for live cd's
[04:46] <MorbidHunger> speaking of graphics im having trouble with mine
[04:47] <Antipodean> and pasted, cheers :     http://pastebin.com/742236     - reckon somebody could take a gander & lend any advice? i'd be much appreciated
[04:47] <Kyral> Dr_Willis: you should checkout the store
[04:47] <Kyral> they sell Damn Small hardware as well :D
[04:47] <sponix> MorbidHunger Kyral gnomefreak : thanks ... just uncommented it from sources.list and presto ;)
[04:47] <Kyral> I'm talking obsencely tiny things
[04:47] <MorbidHunger> np mate
[04:47] <Kyral> Micro-ITX
[04:47] <Kyral> fanless
[04:47] <Kyral> and they are full systems
[04:48] <jason_> what runlevel to i use if i want to boot to a command line instead of x?
[04:48] <Surfnkid> how come the screen saver is so not-opengl and crapp
[04:48] <alan> #ubuntu-br
[04:48] <Kyral> 2 I think
[04:48] <Kyral> Surfnkid: because ahhh, you didn't install it
[04:48] <Kyral> and crap
[04:48] <Kyral> :P
[04:48] <alan> irc.freenode.net
[04:49] <moc_cando> will the ubuntu run on a 64mb of ram and a celeron 333?
[04:49] <eggzeck> alan, /j #ubuntu-br
[04:49] <Surfnkid> u mean install the opengl driver for the ATI card?
[04:49] <Kyral> Surfnkid: and OpenGL doesn't always mean good
[04:49] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Kyral about enter
[04:49] <Surfnkid> ok forget opengl
[04:49] <Madpilot> ;)
[04:49] <Kyral> moc_cando: I hate to say this, but google for it :P
[04:49] <Kyral> Madpilot: I was jousting back
[04:49] <serp> moc_cando: yes si
[04:49] <Kyral> I know the rules
[04:49] <Kyral> sheesh
[04:49] <Surfnkid> simply  my screen saver is choppy so im wondering if i have to set the right video drivers to work
[04:49] <Madpilot> Surfnkid, which card to you have?
[04:49] <Madpilot> vid card, that is
[04:49] <Kyral> moc_cando: I cannot remember the URL for Damn Small off the top of my head
[04:50] <alan> valeu, eggzeck
[04:50] <moc_cando> google is a longer answer, best to wait for anyone who knows it here
[04:50] <Surfnkid> ATI 128 um i think its a 9600 or 9700
[04:50] <eggzeck> alan, =)
[04:50] <Spaceraver> !google damn small linux
[04:50] <ubotu> Spaceraver: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:50] <Surfnkid> its on an 8600 dell laptop
[04:50] <Madpilot> Spaceraver, the bot here doesn't do searches - sorry.
[04:51] <Surfnkid> M10 to be more precise
[04:51] <Madpilot> Surfnkid, an ATI 9600 or 9800 should work well with ATI's drivers. I've got an ATI 9600XT 256Mb, and it runs very well.
[04:51] <Spaceraver> np... had another chan with that in... and the damn small linux site is damnsmalllinux.org
[04:51] <eggzeck> Surfnkid, are you sure you have 3D accel?
[04:51] <Surfnkid> ubuntu self installs it?
[04:52] <Surfnkid> eggzeck yeah, i run ut2004 really well with this 128mb card
[04:52] <Kyral> Seriously, someone check the Damn Small Store
[04:52] <MorbidHunger> i guess i have to burn unreal to a cd r...
[04:52] <Spaceraver> linky
[04:52] <Surfnkid> Mad did you have to install any other drivers or configure any options
[04:53] <kayde> i need help with Infared syncranisation
[04:53] <kayde> i need help with Infared syncranisation
[04:53] <moc_cando> who uses damnsmalllinux?
[04:53] <MorbidHunger> try asking in #damnsmalllinux
[04:53] <Spaceraver> nice thing...
[04:53] <kayde> i need help with Infared syncranisation
[04:53] <uscg_corey> stop repeating
[04:53] <Antipodean> um, could anybody here take a gander at http://pastebin.com/742236 & give any input and trying to install this game from source?  (the pasted material is the lines from my terminal after I entered 'make')
[04:53] <eggzeck> Surfnkid, oh, because my screensaver were very choppy before I got graphics acceleration working correctly
[04:53] <Madpilot> Surfnkid, no, you'll need to install ATI's 3d drivers
[04:53] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Surfnkid about ati
[04:54] <MorbidHunger> Antipodean: ill check it out
[04:54] <Surfnkid> ubotu can you PM it please
[04:54] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Surfnkid
[04:54] <moc_cando> no one in there
[04:54] <Antipodean> thnx Morbid
[04:54] <Surfnkid> im out the door and itll scroll up
[04:54] <Surfnkid> ok i will
[04:54] <moc_cando> damn will it have a firefox?
[04:54] <Spaceraver> Kyral... hmm.. would be nice as a firewall/router
[04:54] <kayde> ubotu, tell kayde about tabs
[04:54] <MorbidHunger> np
[04:54] <seek> How do you perform a search with apt-get ?
[04:54] <Surfnkid> thanks mad, ill figure it out when i get back see ya guys
[04:54] <MorbidHunger> try using usdo
[04:54] <MorbidHunger> sudo*
[04:54] <Madpilot> Surfnkid, you should have just gotten a PM
[04:54] <Kyral> moc_cando: you will find that Dillo is quite nice
[04:54] <Matt123> how can i install a printer
[04:55] <Kyral> moc_cando: but you can install it via MyDSL
[04:55] <MorbidHunger> Antipodean: you need to have admin rights to run make
[04:55] <Surfnkid> yes sir thanks
[04:55] <Surfnkid> ill ask if i have trouble in a bit
[04:55] <Kyral> actually once it hits the HD, it works like a Debian system
[04:55] <Antipodean> MorbidHunger: I am the adminsrator?
[04:55] <MorbidHunger> run sudo make
[04:55] <Surfnkid> should be back in 2 hours cyas
[04:55] <Antipodean> i tried sudo make as well
[04:55] <Kyral> Spaceraver: I'd use it as a backup DNS server :P
[04:55] <MorbidHunger> interesting
[04:55] <Madpilot> Antipodean, use sudo w/ your own user password?
[04:56] <MorbidHunger> looks like u need sdl
[04:56] <Kyral> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/Mini_ITX_Systems/Damn_Small_Machine <[04:56] <Spaceraver> Kyral.. throw smoothwall on it and
[04:56] <Spaceraver> some other stuff
[04:56] <Antipodean> sdl?
[04:56] <Kyral> Spaceraver: I'd want it just for the "HOLY **** THATS A DESKTOP?!" factor :P
[04:56] <Spaceraver> :D
[04:57] <MorbidHunger> yup
[04:57] <Spaceraver> better still... get a industrial machine... theyre smaller than that i think
[04:57] <MorbidHunger> i forget the command to aptget it
[04:57] <Kyral> lol
[04:58] <Kyral> even better, as a jukebox :P
[04:58] <zexr0> should XGL came as a download in apt ?
[04:58] <MorbidHunger> Antipodean just search for it synaptic
[04:58] <Spaceraver> sudo apt-get install *filename*
[04:58] <Kyral> ssh + mpg123
[04:58] <Kyral> :P
[04:58] <MorbidHunger> in synaptic*
[04:58] <Antipodean> MorbidHunger: cheers mate - much appreciated
[04:58] <MorbidHunger> np
[04:58] <MorbidHunger> it should work...
[04:58] <MorbidHunger> what game is it?
[04:58] <Spaceraver> Kyral... how about just Giantdisk??
[04:59] <Kyral> I dunno
[04:59] <tspier2> I keep getting this same error for anything when I try to install it; what should I do? troy@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer
[04:59] <tspier2> Reading package lists... Done
[04:59] <tspier2> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:59] <tspier2> E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[04:59] <Kyral> I just want one :P
[04:59] <lampshade> microphone?  Anyone know a way of diagnosing a problem.  I have no idea how mics function, etc on linux
[04:59] <Spaceraver> if you have a palm thing..
[04:59] <Spaceraver> tspier2... have you enabled the repositories??
[04:59] <MorbidHunger> tspier2: do u have the universe reposity enabled?
[05:00] <Antipodean> tell ya what, switching to Ubunto from XP has been a pain in the arse, and involved a steep learning curve for a complete linux newbie such as myself, but wow... it doesn't take you long to get a sense of the possibilities!
[05:00] <zexr0> that :)
[05:00] <MorbidHunger> Antipodean: its easy as long as u feel like learning
[05:00] <tspier2> I have a repository enabled, because a few programs worked when trying apt-get, but I don't know how to enable the universe repository.
[05:00] <zexr0> thanks :P
[05:00] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell tspier2 about universe
[05:00] <eggzeck> Spaceraver, *filename*, apt-get install doesn't install files, but packages (programs). hehe
[05:00] <Spaceraver> Antipodean... yeah... im normally pro win... but this is just too damn good to miss out on...
[05:01] <MorbidHunger> lol for some reason, my mobo wont load windows partitions
[05:01] <MorbidHunger> thus im on ubuntu
[05:01] <Spaceraver> eggzeck... yeah... but it's still a file/package/program name
[05:01] <matti> MorbidHunger: Hehe.
[05:01] <MorbidHunger> meh
[05:01] <Spaceraver> LOL
[05:01] <MorbidHunger> i would be bitchy if it detected my onbored sound, but it is very old
[05:02] <matti> MorbidHunger: How old?
[05:02] <eggzeck> Spaceraver, it's not a "filename". so package/program is more precise.
[05:02] <Spaceraver> ok ok... i bow before thee eggzeck... ;D
[05:02] <matti> MorbidHunger: Is is more or less PnP ISA, well... If driver is still available... should work. If not. Probably manual settings will. Cheer up :-)
[05:03] <eggzeck> Spaceraver, nah, lol, please don't. hehe =)
[05:03] <MorbidHunger> dunno
[05:03] <MorbidHunger> matti: im not pissed it
[05:03] <MorbidHunger> shit happens
[05:03] <Spaceraver> you would be awed by it anyhow... im 6'10
[05:03] <MorbidHunger> i just gotta replace my 462 mobo
[05:03] <Spaceraver> 462??
[05:03] <MorbidHunger> the rig im on was just stuff i scraped around from school
[05:03] <MorbidHunger> yeah
[05:03] <MorbidHunger> socket 462
[05:04] <MorbidHunger> for my am athlon xp2100
[05:04] <Spaceraver> amd??
[05:04] <matti> MorbidHunger: You mean, Socket A, right?
[05:04] <MorbidHunger> amd*
[05:04] <MorbidHunger> yeah
[05:04] <matti> ;] 
[05:04] <MorbidHunger> im just used to numbers
[05:04] <matti> I know.
[05:04] <Spaceraver> heh... this is the best time to be on these channels
[05:04] <MorbidHunger> id rather memorise numbers than a bunch of numbers and letters
[05:04] <MorbidHunger> Spaceraver: hell yeah
[05:05] <MorbidHunger> ud think it being saturday people would be at home on their comps
[05:05] <MorbidHunger> meh
[05:05] <Spaceraver> I keep 30 chinese students in my basement and force them to memorize those numbers... and a midget to tell me what they mean... :D
[05:05] <MorbidHunger> ive got 30 bucks twords the mobo
[05:06] <DylanPierce> Okay... can someone tell me if there's a channel where a total idiot can ask an annoying question and perhaps stand a chance at getting simple step-by-step answer? Like an Ubuntu for distressed non-techs channel?
[05:06] <matti> Spaceraver: ROTFL
[05:06] <MorbidHunger> Spaceraver:hell yeah,
[05:06] <Spaceraver> DylanPierce ask away
[05:06] <MorbidHunger> u should get a sweatshop and put in air conditioned
[05:06] <matti> Spaceraver: So, they memorie all of your IP adresses too? ;] 
[05:06] <MorbidHunger> DylanPierce: you came to the right place
[05:07] <Spaceraver> this aint a normal quakenet irc channel... they are arrogant tbh
[05:07] <MorbidHunger> ive static configured mine
[05:07] <DylanPierce> For some reason, I'm completely incapable of getting MuSE to work. I've installed and uninstalled and reinstalled and it simply doesn't do what I think it should.
[05:07] <pip`> will Konversation run on dapper ?
[05:07] <MorbidHunger> pip` it should
[05:07] <JonathanKent> !simpson
[05:07] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, JonathanKent
[05:07] <pip`> does dapper come with kde already ?
[05:07] <MorbidHunger> pip` no
[05:08] <Spaceraver> i cant use static ip's... moving to lans and such means i need the dhcp...
[05:08] <MorbidHunger> pip` if u want kde use kubuntu
[05:08] <DylanPierce> I need to be able to broadcast to a Shoutcast server. I don't care what program I use, as long as it allows me to broadcast a radio talk show... MuSE seemed like the best choice, but it gives me errors and won't start.
[05:08] <pip`> is there something besides kde that u recommend with dapper ?
[05:08] <Spaceraver> i miss a front end for my bluetooth in ubuntu tho
[05:08] <MorbidHunger> pip` gnome works great
[05:08] <Spaceraver> pip`... gnome is default
[05:08] <pip`> oh gnome but thats not as good right ?
[05:08] <MorbidHunger> ill switch to dapper later
[05:09] <Spaceraver> or fluxbox... but that's not for the faint hearted
[05:09] <nordle> "failed to run firestarter - wrong password"  coblers, absolute twoddle, complete rubbish.  I've entered the password and its giving me this crap.  What is that all about?
[05:09] <MorbidHunger> pip` it works great, its a matter of personal preference really
[05:09] <pip`> well im installing kde now, its taking like a long long time
[05:09] <Spaceraver> pip` it's just not that "shiny"
[05:09] <Madpilot> nordle, using your own user password?
[05:09] <MorbidHunger> Spaceraver: i never thought of it that way
[05:09] <Jude> Mmmfluxbox.
[05:10] <MorbidHunger> Spaceraver: thats so true
[05:10] <Jude> Actually, I prefer blackbox over fluxbox.
[05:10] <JimH_> I am having trouble also with firestarter not starting
[05:10] <pip`> is kde gonna wreck my dapper setup ? it seems like its taking too long to download & install
[05:10] <Spaceraver> i have fluxbox, blackbox, gnome and kde installed on my lappy...
[05:10] <MorbidHunger> what ever happened to that guy i helped with the game
[05:10] <MorbidHunger> brb guys
[05:10] <dibblego> how can I figure out why my init scripts are not running at boot time?
[05:10] <nordle> Madpilot: hello again, apologies for me outburst, had a few beers, spent a few hours messing around.  Yes my password, sudo...
[05:10] <dibblego> s/scripts/script
[05:10] <pip`> its been like 35 minutes and its STILL installing kde, am i in trouble ?
[05:11] <DylanPierce> Hrm... okay, mention MuSE and bask in the silence...
[05:11] <Madpilot> nordle, does your pw work for other things? Synaptic or something?
[05:11] <pip`> i never knew of a program that took that long to install
[05:11] <Spaceraver> but i cant lend them the lappy when it's running fluxbox or blackbox.. taht would confuse the normal windoze user
[05:11] <seek> I have vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-amd64-generic  and I want to compile a kernel with smp support.  I downloaded the kernel-sources and headers, now I getmake[1] : *** [arch/x86_64/ia32/ia32_ioctl.o]  Error 1
[05:11] <seek> How do I get past this error?
[05:12] <nordle> Madpilot: yeah, sudo updatedb was that last thing I ran.
[05:12] <Spaceraver> pip`: how fast a connection u have... and your pc specs
[05:12] <Madpilot> nordle, but not for firestarter? very odd.
[05:12] <zexr0> pip`: how fast is your internet connection ?
[05:12] <nickrud> DylanPierce, no midi knowledge in this chair ;
[05:12] <zexr0> pip`: and your computer
[05:12] <pip`> also, someone recently told me that i could hotswap my kernel to 64bit in just 10 minutes on dapper, is that true ?
[05:12] <MorbidHunger> back
[05:12] <nordle> Madpilot: It complained about ppp0
[05:12] <nickrud> dibblego, did you add it to the runlevels?
[05:12] <MorbidHunger> damn my mother and aunt, they got choclate ice cream
[05:12] <nordle> not existing
[05:12] <pip`> i have fast adsl 2mbps
[05:12] <Spaceraver> hmm... was thinking... does xfce require opengl support??
[05:13] <MorbidHunger> pip` mines at 3mbps
[05:13] <pip`> and amd64 2800
[05:13] <zexr0> pip`:  well for kde I'm on a 1.7 pentium D and it took me about 30 minutes last time
[05:13] <MorbidHunger> im on an amdk6-2
[05:13] <dibblego> nickrud: yes, I followed instructions at https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/UbuntuBootupHowto
[05:13] <pip`> oh ok i guess its alrgiht then
[05:13] <Madpilot> nordle, hmm... not sure what to suggest... sorry.
[05:13] <dibblego> sudo update-rc.d myscript start 51 S .
[05:13] <StucKman> Spaceraver: not that i know. have you tried apt-cache chos xfce?
[05:13] <MorbidHunger> im going to nap, than go out
[05:14] <MorbidHunger> ttyl guys
[05:14] <pip`> is 512 mb ram enuf for dapper ?
[05:14] <zexr0> yeah
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> StucKman: apt-cache chos?
[05:14] <pip`> so i take it dapper doesnt need nearly as much ram as windows xp
[05:14] <StucKman> geez
[05:14] <Spaceraver> pip` it runs on 256 ram on a duron 1ghz mobile
[05:14] <StucKman> Spaceraver: apt-cache show xfce4
[05:14] <Spaceraver> aah...
[05:15] <nordle> Madpilot: It has to be a bug, it can handle ppp0 or eth0 as long as the package was installed at the same time as using the interface (either ppp0 or eth0), but it cant reconfigure during upgrade.
[05:15] <pip`> can anyone recommend the best faq for dapper, getting started ?
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> pip`: Ubuntu Desktop Guide.  System > Help
[05:15] <b0rr3g0> yei this is my first time on linux
[05:15] <zexr0> pip it's the same as Breezy except for some minor change for the user
[05:16] <theauthor> ping?
[05:16] <Jude> Pong!
[05:16] <theauthor> w00t!
[05:16] <Antipodean> lol
[05:16] <zexr0> boo!
[05:16] <theauthor> there are live ones here
[05:16] <nickrud> dibblego, I use that update-rc.d like so: sudo update-rc.d defaults 99  (assuming it's ok to run your script at the very end of bootup)
[05:16] <pip`> is xgl recommended for dapper noobs by the way, or is it too hard to get running etc ?
[05:17] <nickrud> dibblego, that page is pretty sparce
[05:17] <Spaceraver> xgl does need a rather branded gpu
[05:17] <theauthor> anyone configured freevo here, and/or feel up to helping me trhough the config
[05:17] <theauthor> ?
[05:18] <StucKman> Spaceraver: anything that runs XGL smoothly
[05:18] <StucKman> see the xgl page, it has a list of supported HW (mostly nvidia)
[05:18] <zexr0> pip it's hard for something new
[05:18] <dibblego> nickrud: it seems my script does indeed run - I changed it do a touch on a file and it executed - it's the contents of my script that is failing, but if I manually invoke it (with sudo), it's fine - does the script run as root?
[05:18] <zexr0> someone*
[05:18] <zexr0> but you'll learn much that way
[05:18] <nickrud> dibblego, yes
[05:18] <nordle> Madpilot: OMG Im such a frickin idot!!!!!  Just when I think Im establsihed my level of stupidity and I mange to go way past it!!  The frickin CAPS-LOCK was on on my laptop....
[05:18] <Spaceraver> StucKman... welll a s3 virge card isnt a viable option...
[05:18] <zexr0> instead of just waiting to do apt-get install xgl when it comes out
[05:19] <Madpilot> nordle, heh, that'll do it ;)
[05:19] <dibblego> nickrud: can you think of a reason why the script doesn't apepar to have run?
[05:19] <StucKman> Spaceraver: I guess not
[05:19] <Spaceraver> it wont run on my lappy anyhow...
[05:19] <Eleaf> well...
[05:19] <nickrud> dibblego, no, since I have no idea what it's doing.
[05:20] <lockhead> then why use it?
[05:20] <StucKman> Spaceraver: http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl
[05:20] <nordle> Madpilot: I've spent at least 1 hour deleting files, running dist-upgrades etc. this is crazy, what a noob.  In KDE is warns when caps lock is on, thats my only defence :)
[05:20] <dibblego> nickrud: #!/bin/sh /usr/share/apache-tomcat/bin/catalina start
[05:20] <Madpilot> nordle, some of Gnome's pw-entry windows warn too, but not all of them.
[05:21] <Madpilot> nordle, heck, file a wishlist bug for Gnome :)
[05:21] <nickrud> dibblego, I have zero experience with apache in any of it's versions
[05:21] <theauthor> anyone use freevo?
[05:21] <dibblego> it's Apache Tomcat, but ok
[05:21] <nickrud> heh. Proof!
[05:21] <dibblego> whatever the case, if I invoke that script myself, everything is fine
[05:21] <memoo> hey guys, i have an apache question too. I set up php on my system and the pages are just rendering as code...where is the configuration file? anyone know how ot fix this?
[05:22] <nordle> Its 4:20am, and Im battered!  Thanks for the words of wisdom!
[05:22] <nordle> Bye!
[05:22] <Spaceraver> 5:20 HERE
[05:22] <Spaceraver> here*
[05:22] <StucKman> memoo: seems like you don't have the Scriptalis set up correctly
[05:22] <nordle> Spaceraver: how can you see the vdu?
[05:22] <Spaceraver> sorry for shouting...caps...
[05:22] <Spaceraver> vdu??
[05:23] <nordle> Spaceraver: how can you see the tft/lcd/crt
[05:23] <dibblego> `sudo /etc/rcS.d/S51apache-tomcat` and it starts
[05:23] <memoo> stuckman, scriptalias?
[05:23] <gil> can someone help me with suspend mode on a toshiba laptop
[05:23] <Spaceraver> it's right in front of me nordle... :D
[05:23] <dibblego> what environment is passed to init scripts?
[05:24] <nickrud> dibblego, that probably needs to be in rc2.d, not rcS.
[05:24] <nordle> Spaceraver: my vision is blurrrreeed  I think I have dual head screen, when no, its 1 tft :)
[05:24] <dibblego> nickrud: what's the difference?
[05:24] <nickrud> dibblego, S is basic system startup & config, rc2.d is the runlevel
[05:24] <tspier2> It still won't work. These are the rrors I get this time...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14754
[05:24] <tspier2> errors*
[05:24] <Spaceraver> i think you should stop typing nordle... and go to bed... :)
[05:25] <memoo> StucKman: any tips on how to do this?
[05:25] <Spaceraver> im doing that in like 2 minutes
[05:25] <nickrud> dibblego, does apache have to be running first?
[05:25] <StucKman> memoo: chech you /etc/apache2 files
[05:25] <dibblego> nickrud: no, it doesn't, but I have some other things to try
[05:25] <StucKman> memoo: more detail soon
[05:25] <pip`> hey guys after i download Konversation program the package installer says Error: Dependency isnt satifiable: kdelibs4c2
[05:25] <pip`> wat this mean
[05:25] <dibblego> and I've moved it to /etc/rc2.d
[05:25] <memoo> StucKman: thank you very much
[05:26] <pip`> did i do sumthing wrong ?
[05:26] <nordle> Spaceraver: Yeah, thats what im gonna do....i hope, its 4ft away, not sure if i can make it....might need a fag break half way through, but im gonna soldier on and make that 4 ft to bed :)
[05:26] <Madpilot> pip`, did you get it thru Ubuntu's repos, or some other way?
[05:26] <dibblego> I'm going to bet my init script does not have the same environment variables
[05:26] <StucKman> pip`: did you dpkg -i it?
[05:26] <seek> How do I install a amd64 smp kernel in Ubuntu?  I keep getting errors when I try to compile my own.
[05:27] <pip`> i got it off the web
[05:27] <tspier2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14754 <= What should I do now?
[05:27] <pip`> http://konversation.kde.org/
[05:28] <paul_> How is it possible to install an app in ubuntu that I download from the net instead of searching through unbuntu repository?
[05:28] <pip`> wats dpkg -i mean ?
[05:28] <mnvl> hi there, i've just installed v5.04 (hoary hedgehog?) from a cd i had. is there an easy way to update to the recent version, or at least update packages, w/o burning a cd ?
[05:28] <StucKman> memoo: see /etc/apache2/mods-enabled, if there is a file named phph something
[05:28] <Madpilot> pip`, use Synaptic or Add Apps instead. Much easier.
[05:28] <nickrud> paul_, yes, but not recommended
[05:28] <pip`> Mad, are those programs on dapper all ready ?
[05:28] <StucKman> pip`: how did you try to install it?
[05:29] <paul_> I figured. damn.
[05:29] <Spaceraver> nn all
[05:29] <Madpilot> pip`, I'm not sure. I don't run KDE, so I don't use Konversation, but I think it's installed by default in Kubuntu already...
[05:29] <pip`> using package installer
[05:29] <seek> someone please answer me.
[05:29] <] GoldenDragon> heyy
[05:29] <nickrud> paul_, if there's no other source then well ...
[05:29] <memoo> StucKman: yes there is some php4 stuff in there
[05:29] <pip`> im using dapper not kub
[05:29] <Madpilot> seek, it helps if you ask an actual question...
[05:29] <StucKman> seek: look for amd64 smp in synaptic. it should show up
[05:30] <] GoldenDragon> anyone have any idea why Google Video won't play sound.. although I can hear most of ubuntu's sound-effects and listen to mp3s on XMMS
[05:30] <memoo> StucKman: I uncommented a line in apache2.conf, how do i restart server?
[05:30] <Madpilot> pip`, if you're using Ubuntu Dapper, why do you want a KDE-based IRC app?
[05:30] <pip`> cuz xchat sux
[05:30] <memoo> StucKman: also, how do i type to you so it appears red to you?
[05:30] <tspier2> pip`, if you want to use dpkg -i, download a .deb file. Then type, "sudo dpkg -i <filename>" and it will be installed.
[05:30] <StucKman> memoo: sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[05:30] <paul_> Thanks for the info though. I am experimenting with everything so I can get up to speed fairly quickly.
[05:30] <pip`> and im downloading kde right now
[05:30] <StucKman> memoo: just type my name
[05:30] <pip`> tsp, ok thx
[05:30] <StucKman> s/name/nick/
[05:30] <Madpilot> pip`, try XChat-Gnome, or just install Konversation thru Add Apps - it is in Ubuntu's repositories
[05:31] <pip`> MAd, ok thx
[05:31] <memoo> StucKman: that uncomment i did fixed it!!! thank you very much for your help
[05:31] <seek> StucKman:  amd64 smp doesn't return anything under synaptic.  Is there a repository I should add to get results?
[05:31] <StucKman> memoo: np
[05:31] <StucKman> seI don't think so
[05:31] <StucKman> seek: jsu a sec
[05:32] <seek> wonder why I'm not gettin anything
[05:32] <seek> k
[05:32] <seek> thnx
[05:32] <pip`> can i run a 2nd terminal screen even while the first one is still running  ?
[05:32] <pip`> or will it mess up
[05:33] <StucKman> seek: sorry, I ahave no amd64 in my hands now. open a terminal and try apt-cache search --names-only smp
[05:33] <tspier2> pip`, it will run fine.
[05:33] <pip`> oh ok good thx
[05:33] <Madpilot> pip`, yes. If you're using gnome-terminal, you can just go View->New Tab
[05:33] <tspier2> You just can't run apt-get in both of them.
[05:33] <pip`> ohh ok
[05:33] <] GoldenDragon> anyone have any idea why Google Video won't play sound.. although I can hear most of ubuntu's sound-effects and listen to mp3s on XMMS
[05:33] <pip`> i dont know if im using gnome terminal
[05:33] <nickrud> seek, I found linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7 , for version 2.6.15 on AMD K7 SMP/UP
[05:33] <pip`> it just says terminal
[05:33] <nickrud> seek, nm, dummy me
[05:33] <Madpilot> pip`, if you're running Ubuntu, and you went Applications->Accessories->Terminal, you're running gnome-term
[05:34] <pip`> dapper
[05:34] <pip`> ok so dapper is ubuntu
[05:34] <pip`> ok
[05:34] <StucKman> pip`: dapper is a version of ubuntu
[05:35] <andrejkw> key
[05:35] <andrejkw> how can I have ubuntu regenrate xorg.conf automatically?
[05:35] <andrejkw> just like it did during installation?
[05:35] <Madpilot> pip`, Ubuntu runs Gnome on the desktop; Kubuntu runs KDE. Dapper is the next release of both.
[05:35] <tspier2> Madpilot, do you know what is wrong with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14754
[05:35] <nickrud> andrejkw, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:35] <StucKman> andrejkw: in a terminal, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:35] <dAndy> is there something you can run to rebuild menu.lst, finding other operating installs?
[05:35] <] GoldenDragon> i can't even listen to audio from AVIs onVLC
[05:36] <andrejkw> doesn't that ask me questions?
[05:36] <Madpilot> tspier2, do you have Multiverse enabled?
[05:36] <andrejkw> I want it to be automatic
[05:36] <tspier2> Yes.
[05:36] <paul_> Ok one last question please. I do not like openoffice very well at this point. Is there a better word processing package I should look at that might be an improvement over openoffice?
[05:36] <Madpilot> tspier2, you sure? mplayer should be in multiverse
[05:36] <StucKman> dAndy: update-grub, but it doesn't try to find anything
[05:36] <MikeSee_MX3> i just got a copy of the ubuntu install/live CD's yesterday
[05:36] <nickrud> andrejkw, the -phigh gets rid of the questions
[05:36] <dibblego> nickrud: I got it working - the script needed some env vars that I assumed would be available
[05:36] <Madpilot> paul_, try abiword
[05:36] <nickrud> dibblego, great
[05:36] <dibblego> nickrud: thanks for the help
[05:36] <dAndy> StucKman: hmm, so no way to get it find stuff (like it does in the installer)?
[05:37] <pip`> Mad, ok so how do i know which version of dapper i got ?
[05:37] <Madpilot> tspier2, sorry, I know the trouble. There is no package actually called "mplayer" - try "mplayer-586" or something like that
[05:37] <StucKman> dAndy: I'm not sure the installers finds anything too (don't remember)
[05:37] <pip`> if both are called capper
[05:37] <pip`> dapper
[05:37] <tspier2> It says the same thing, Madpilot.
[05:37] <dAndy> StucKman: it definitely does
[05:37] <dAndy> :)
[05:37] <tspier2> It has no installation candidate.
[05:37] <tspier2> :/
[05:37] <Madpilot> pip`, do you have three menus at the top-left of your screen? If so, you're running Ubuntu w/ Gnome.
[05:38] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell tspier2 about mplayer
[05:38] <pip`> it just says applications places system
[05:38] <Madpilot> pip`, yeah, that's Gnome's menus, so you're running Ubuntu, not Kubuntu.
[05:39] <pip`> ok thx, i guess i got to turn off xchat in order to install xchat gnome now
[05:39] <StucKman> pip`: no you don't need to
[05:40] <pip`> well i got an error meeage saying something else is using resources
[05:40] <pip`> so
[05:40] <StucKman> pip`: you have another package manager open
[05:40] <imperfect-> jade.dal.net
[05:40] <pip`> ohh
[05:41] <d00by> how do i create a shortcut to the root terminal on the desktop?
[05:41] <Schalken> how come epiphany depends on firefox?
[05:41] <] GoldenDragon> anyone have any idea why Google Video won't play sound and neither do AVIs in VLC player,.. although I can hear most of ubuntu's sound-effects and listen to mp3s on XMMS...I'd typically assume that its because I'm missing codecs.. could that be the case? I assumed VLC could play it all.. if it is, how do I go about installing codecs?
[05:41] <nickrud> d00by, drag the root terminal in the menu to the desktop (I think there's one in breezy, one for sure in dapper)
[05:42] <cya> Applications -> Accessories -> Right-Click on Terminal and select "Add this launcher to desktop"
[05:42] <nickrud> Schalken, epi uses the gecko rendering engine in firefox
[05:42] <d00by> ahh! smart one you are, nickrud
[05:42] <Schalken> and that cant be used independantly?
[05:42] <Bung> ok, so first off, whats the wireless connection GUI that ubuntu uses, its probly a gnome thing... cuz xubuntu didnt come with it
[05:42] <pip`> xchat wont even let me set up auto joins
[05:42] <Fyron> How much swap space does ubuntu need if I have 1 GB of ram?
[05:42] <T`> i would like to mount a device without doing sudo.. how can i do this?
[05:42] <nickrud> d00by, hah. Hang around and be enlightened :)
[05:43] <StucKman> Fyron: depends on your usage, but I run in 1GiB RAM with no swap
[05:43] <d00by> another question, is there anyway to set up a wifi monitor thing like windows has that shows the strength in the notification area?
[05:43] <StucKman> Fyron: try 512
[05:43] <cya> Fyron: I prefer no swap also.
[05:43] <cya> Fyron: When you start digging into swap, you get a performance decrease, which is when I usually reboot, so I just avoid swap altogether.
[05:44] <Bung> why is my ubuntu splash still there, and grub doesnt show the new xubuntu, after my new xubuntu install
[05:44] <Fyron> What sort of usage would make having no swap cause problems?
[05:44] <Bung> i thought i formatted the drive
[05:44] <pip`> i dont remember these ubuntu channels being so full last week or 2 weeks ago,
[05:45] <nickrud> it goes in cycles
[05:45] <Madpilot> pip`, it's getting busier here as Dapper release gets closer, but 600+ is pretty standard for #ubuntu
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> pip`: This is still pretty normal.
[05:45] <Madpilot> the 1st is going to be insane
[05:45] <mike930> im getting ready to build a new system, can anyone tell me if ubuntu supports nvidia nforce sli motherboards and pentium d processors?
[05:45] <theauthor> for tv-out on an ati 3d rage 2,what video output should i select?
[05:45] <pip`> darn, my kde install says it STILL has over an hour left to finish !
[05:45] <cya> Fyron: I generally experience an overall performance decrease, but usually in gaming is when swap likes to swap my ass.
[05:46] <pip`> meaning total install time of OVER 2 hours !
[05:46] <rredd4> are there boot logs?  i looked in /var/log/messages and do not see boot errors
[05:46] <swim> hey folks, I'm trying to move a dir into a dir on a fat32 partition... but I get simply: Invalid argument... help?
[05:46] <cya> pip`: Kubuntu-desktop comes with TONS of extra software, many of which are unnecessary.
[05:46] <pip`> is it maybe becuz everyone else is downloading ubuntu apps now ?
[05:47] <Lunarctic> is there any way to upgrade to kde 4.0 with the sources.list?
[05:47] <pip`> i have ubuntu dapper unfortunately
[05:47] <Hobbsee> Lunarctic: no
[05:47] <GMullen> is there a way to install ubuntu over LAN
[05:47] <Lunarctic> :P
[05:47] <stasislove> i compiled nvidia drivers from nvidia.com again and i found this error in dmesg API mismatch: client has veresion 1.0-8756 but this kernel module has veresion 1.08762, need all help i can get to start nvidia drivers
[05:47] <pip`> haha i cant wait to hotswap my kernel
[05:48] <pip`> that sounds badass
[05:48] <pip`> dapper hopefully rocks
[05:48] <swim> anyone?
[05:48] <rredd4> where do I find boot logs?
[05:49] <StucKman> rredd4: /avr/log/something
[05:49] <StucKman> /var *
[05:49] <d00by> ok, i am havin trouble installing new themes, is there a good tutorial somewhere or a good site that has them?
[05:49] <GMullen> is there a way to install ubuntu over LAN
[05:50] <pip`> i wonder why it took african will power to develop ubuntu software, why didnt someone else do it already ?
[05:50] <dli> pip`, why not?
[05:50] <pip`> is africa does africa have alot of programmers then
[05:50] <rredd4> pip no one wanted to donate 10 million dollars
[05:50] <swim> hey folks, I'm trying to move a dir into a dir on a fat32 partition... but I get simply: Invalid argument... help please?
[05:51] <pip`> 10 mil ??!
[05:51] <rredd4> yup
[05:51] <duneatreides> hello, I'm trying to compile the 2.6.16.18 kernel but I can't seem to use gconfig, menuconfig, or xconfig
[05:51] <rredd4> pip that is what was given to start this project
[05:51] <pip`> well where DID all that money come from then? the diamond industry ?
[05:52] <Madpilot> pip`, Mark Shuttleworth funds Ubuntu, he made his money in the dotcom boom
[05:52] <duneatreides> and I am trying to apt-get what ever I'm missing, but it isn't working
[05:52] <d00by> what is a good site to find new themes for ubuntu
[05:52] <Hobbsee> pip`: see wiki.ubuntu.com/sabdfl
[05:52] <pip`> ohh i remember seeing that video now about shuttleworth, i didnt know it was actually HIS money
[05:52] <aaron_> anyone know how to send video to a tv from laptop with ubuntu
[05:52] <pip`> omg
[05:53] <pip`> so it was mainly a single individual then
[05:53] <duneatreides> can anyone help me compile a kernel?
[05:53] <BlueEagle> duneatreides: Well first you need to get build_essentials
[05:53] <rredd4> Stuckman i looked in there, did not see boot logs
[05:53] <BlueEagle> duneatreides: Then you need to get the kernel sources.
[05:53] <rredd4> pip yes
[05:53] <pip`> so ubuntu is kinda a lone humanitarian effort then
[05:53] <duneatreides> i have the kernel sources
[05:54] <pip`> economically speaking
[05:54] <pip`> interesting
[05:54] <BlueEagle> duneatreides: Then you need to configure the kernel by changing directory to where the sources are (usually /usr/src/linux-<kernelversion>)
[05:54] <duneatreides> I am having problems getting either menuconfig, xconfig, or gconfig to work
[05:54] <Madpilot> pip`, sort of. All the money is Mark's, so far, but his company (Canonical) expects to make a profit eventually.
[05:54] <rredd4> boot logs?  any where else besides /var/log?
[05:54] <pip`> one man making a difference
[05:54] <BlueEagle> duneatreides: and in that directory you need to make menu-config
[05:54] <duneatreides> I can use config, but i really don't want to do that
[05:55] <Schalken> has anyone ever shared an internet connection and/or printer between a windows and linux box?
[05:55] <aaron_> anyone know how to send video to a tv from laptop with ubuntu
[05:55] <pip`> i dont remember hearing of any other linux distro starting that way tho
[05:55] <rredd4> Madpilot how does someone make a profit from a free distro?
[05:55] <BlueEagle> duneatreides: When you've done that you need to run make and make modules_install and then move the kernel image (from ./arch/i386/boot/vmlinuz) to /boot
[05:55] <pip`> so its unique then
[05:55] <tspier2> Is there anything similar to MPlayer that I can install and will allow me to stream video?
[05:55] <Madpilot> rredd4, selling support to businesses who want to use it
[05:55] <swim> Anyone?  I'm trying to move a dir into a dir on a fat32 partition... but I get simply: Invalid argument... help please?
[05:55] <BlueEagle> duneatreides: When that's done you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst so you can choose the kernel.
[05:55] <duneatreides> but I can not get menuconfig, xconfig, or gconfig to work
[05:56] <duneatreides> BlueEagle, but I can not get menuconfig, xconfig, or gconfig to work
[05:56] <rredd4> Madpilot so its free to us, but not to businesses?
[05:56] <aaron_> anyone know how to send video to a tv from laptop with ubuntu
[05:56] <BlueEagle> duneatreides: What happens when you attempt to `make menuconfig` in the directory where you unpacked your sources?
[05:56] <Howdy125> Thank God pip has quit
[05:56] <tspier2> Howdy125, XD
[05:56] <Madpilot> rredd4, no, it's free to them too, but they can buy support from Canonical if they want.
[05:56] <rredd4> ohh
[05:56] <rredd4> ic
[05:56] <mosty> anyone know how i can find out why an initramfs initrd isn't being used?
[05:57] <Madpilot> Howdy125, those were pretty standard newbie questions; that's what this channel exists for...
[05:57] <aaron_> anyone know how to send video to a tv from laptop with ubuntu
[05:57] <d00by> how do i install new themes for ubuntu
[05:57] <swim> HELP
[05:57] <swim> SOS
[05:57] <Schalken> swim, type 'man mv' or 'mv --help' and make sure what your typing follows what it says
[05:57] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell d00by about themes
[05:57] <rredd4> swim post your question
[05:58] <aaron_> anyone know how to send video to a tv from laptop with ubuntu?
[05:58] <swim> rredd4: I hae
[05:58] <swim> have
[05:58] <GMullen> is there a way to install ubuntu over LAN?
[05:58] <swim> Schalken: I know how to use mv
[05:58] <joedj> aaron_: what do you mean, send video to a tv? do you have some kind of output device that you can connect to an input on the TV?
[05:58] <duneatreides> BlueEagle, when I try menuconfig, I get a lot of error messages
[05:58] <Madpilot> d00by, also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:58] <swim> rredd4:  Anyone?  I'm trying to move a dir into a dir on a fat32 partition... but I get simply: Invalid argument... help please?
[05:58] <BlueEagle> duneatreides: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com <= post the errors there
[05:58] <Schalken> then it should say something more descriptive that 'invalid argument'
[05:58] <Schalken> than*
[05:58] <aaron_> joedj: I'm using an s-video chord
[05:58] <mosty> swim: that's probably just a warning, because fat32 doesnt support unix users/permissions
[05:59] <Madpilot> swim, what exact command are you using? Or is this thru the GUI file manager?
[05:59] <joedj> aaron_: an nvidia card?
[05:59] <aaron_> joedj: yeah
[05:59] <rredd4> swim  windoze?
[05:59] <rob> does anyone know how big Ubuntu's main repository is?
[05:59] <swim> Madpilot:  no via cli : mv blah/ to /media/hdb2/music/johnnycash/
[05:59] <fluxt> greetings travelers, i was wondering if genius knew how to send a maximize message to a window via the console?
[06:00] <swim> mosty: not a warning... it will not move the directory
[06:00] <joedj> aaron_: /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.txt.gz has some examples
[06:00] <Madpilot> swim, leave the "to" out. mv syntax is just "mv /source/dir /destination/dir"
[06:00] <mosty> swim, it might help if you told us the exact message
[06:00] <rredd4> Madpilot where are boot logs?  looked in /var/log  not there
[06:00] <aaron_> joedj: alright, thanks
[06:00] <swim> Madpilot: I dont use the "to" my mistake when typing it in here
[06:00] <Madpilot> rredd4, no idea, actually. Never needed them. (thankfully)
[06:01] <joedj> aaron_: look for TwinView
[06:01] <BlueEagle> rredd4: /var/log/dmesg what you want?
[06:01] <swim> mosty: the exact message is :  invalid argument:  mv: cannot create directory `Windows/music/Johnny_Cash/American IV: The Man Comes Around': Invalid argument
[06:01] <Zambezi> How can I make me "Ubuntu server"-installation (Breezy) more secure?
[06:02] <mosty> zambezi: invest in a good admin :)
[06:02] <swim> people, whats odd is I can mkdir a directory on that partition without issues
[06:03] <Zambezi> mosty: But what if he fouls me and make it less secure? ;-)
[06:03] <rredd4> BlueEagle, ok  I am having problem with dapper, won't boot after I install ndiswrapper, netgear stuff.  hangs when it gets to retrieving network.  wanted to see if some log has the errors so i can send a bug report
[06:03] <BlueEagle> rredd4: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[06:03] <Hobbsee> rredd4: what model card?
[06:03] <rredd4> BlueEagle been there done that
[06:03] <mosty> zambezi: hire a good team?
[06:03] <BlueEagle> rredd4: Well, what are you doing back here?
[06:04] <rredd4> Hobbsee WG511v2 Netgear
[06:04] <Zambezi> mosty: But I don't know where to start.
[06:04] <rredd4> BlueEagle, they could not help me with where boot logs are
[06:04] <swim> anyone please?
[06:04] <blank_> hey guys, what's the command that lets you edit xorg.conf
[06:04] <Hobbsee> rredd4: #ubuntu+1 for an answer...
[06:04] <blank_> xserverconfig ?
[06:04] <blank_> something like that
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> blank_: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:05] <rredd4> Hobbsee they don't know either, was there first
[06:05] <dli> blank_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:05] <Zambezi> mosty: I need a secure SSH-server so I can use Putty in a secure way for an example.
[06:05] <blank_> tonyyarusso, yeah I know that, but I mean, the actual command that takes you through, YEAH THAT'S RIGHT dli! thanks buddy :)
[06:05] <Hobbsee> rredd4: i'm there now, and i'm asking you questions there.
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> blank_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:05] <BlueEagle> rredd4: If you had paid attention you'd see that hobbsee is talking to you on #ubuntu+1.
[06:05] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Zambezi about ssh
[06:05] <Schalken> ubuntu owns suse to the max
[06:05] <dli> blank_, don't edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:05] <mosty> zambezi: just install the ssh server, then firewall it as best you can
[06:06] <dli> Zambezi, the package name is openssh-server
[06:06] <Zambezi> mosty: I have IPCop.
[06:06] <blank_> dli, why not? I've done it before :(
[06:06] <Zambezi> dli: That's the one a got.
[06:06] <mosty> Zambezi, that's about all you need for most situations
[06:07] <noiesmo> blank_, if you edit the xorg.conf by hand it breaks the gnome or kde xorg.conf file and can cause problems when you upgrade
[06:07] <drcode> any one knonw how can I lock key
[06:07] <drcode> like alt key?
[06:07] <blank_> omg seriusly? I always edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand! :(
[06:08] <tmccrary> ahhh, royce lost
[06:08] <cblair1986> hi all. I'm having some trouble with installing ubuntu 5.10.
[06:08] <noiesmo> blank_, a lot of people do but its not rcommended
[06:08] <cblair1986> Searched the forums, but I couldn't find anything similar to my situation.
[06:08] <tmccrary> They should switch xorg over to xml
[06:09] <ErnArg> Can I check a Windows partition for virus from Ubuntu?
[06:10] <StucKman> ErnArg: maybe. there are antivirus in linux (clamav is one), but I just used them for email scanning
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> ErnArg: I believe so.  If it's mounted, I think ClamAV will do that.
[06:10] <cblair1986> the install detects everything fine, when I use ide=nodma, but hangs at some point during the scanning of the cd-rom for packages.
[06:10] <noiesmo> ErnArg, is it ntfs if so you will need to mount it as root and run clamscan as root
[06:10] <GMullen> what program should i use to burn an ISO in unbuntu?
[06:10] <ErnArg> yes, it is mounted
[06:10] <swim> SOS anyone please?
[06:10] <tonyyarusso>  !burners
[06:10] <ubotu> burners is, like, k3b, nautilus cd burner, gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord, and others.
[06:11] <ErnArg> I seei it from Ubuntu
[06:11] <Zambezi> mosty: Cause I would like it really secure. If Debian is more secure, I might consider to take that instead.
[06:11] <JimH_> can someone help me with getting firestarter to start without me having to su to run it?
[06:11] <StucKman> swim: what filesystem does that partition have?
[06:11] <mosty> Zambezi, security is a process, not a product
[06:12] <swim> StucKman: fat32 (vfat in ftsab)
[06:12] <ErnArg> ok, then I will install ClamAV and see if it works. Thank you
[06:12] <StucKman> swim: and I assume you have permissions in that party to create dirs...
[06:12] <StucKman> swim: I /think/ it's the colon
[06:12] <Bung> are there any other skinnable media players then xmms? or are there any nice players like amarok a bit more lightweight (ie not kdelibs O.o)
[06:12] <noiesmo> ErnArg, clamscan -r /media/hxxx replace xxx with your drive designation
[06:12] <swim> StucKman: indeed I do, as I said, I have no problems with mkdir in that partition, but I cannot mv or cp into it
[06:13] <noiesmo> ErnArg, sudo  clamscan -r /media/hxxx replace xxx with your drive designation
[06:13] <Zambezi> mosty: But OpenBSD is the most secure OS on the market so that's not totally true. Of course you can make something even more unsecure pretty easy.
[06:13] <StucKman> swim: tri touching a file called `: in that partition
[06:13] <mosty> Zambezi, openbsd is insecure with a lazy admin, is the point i'm making
[06:14] <swim> StucKman: Im not sure how you mean, could you give me an example please?
[06:14] <JimH_> can someone help me with getting firestarter to start without me having to su to run it?
[06:15] <Zambezi> mosty: But with a good admin in OpenBSD and a good admin in Ubuntu, OpenBSD is still more secure. But how can I make Ubuntu more secure from the original configuration with a SSH-server installed?
[06:15] <noiesmo> JimH_, use gksu firestarter
[06:15] <Madpilot> JimH_, sudo firestarter doesn't work?
[06:15] <Madpilot> or 'gksudo firestarter'?
[06:15] <mosty> Zambezi, the general idea is to install the minimal required services, keep them up to date with security fixes, and firewall as best you can in the situation. this is the process for any OS
[06:15] <joedj> Zambezi: why is openbsd more secure?
[06:16] <JimH_> can I place that in sessions?
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> Zambezi: Check out the hardened ubuntu stuff and Bastille.
[06:16] <Madpilot> JimH_, firestarter should have added itself to sessions, even if the gui part isn't visible
[06:16] <mosty> zambezi: the next step would be to use intrusion detection software
[06:16] <Zambezi> joedj: I just listened to the people I spoke with. I don't remeber the details.
[06:17] <noiesmo> JimH_, firestarter once installed and you have run it once it will start on boot then you can access and change setting s thru gksu firestarter
[06:17] <JimH_> ok thank you I just wanted to have the control button to show up
[06:17] <joedj> Zambezi: don't believe everything you hear
[06:17] <Fassa> could someone tell me the command lline for accessing a sub storage drive from the command line after the usb drive is already mounted?
[06:17] <Zambezi> mosty: I have just the basic. I'm trying to avoid the X-server, Gnome and things like that. And I already installed IDS. :-)
[06:18] <JimH_> thank you
[06:18] <swim> StucKman: >
[06:18] <swim> ?
[06:18] <mosty> zambezi: then it sounds like you're already on top of it
[06:18] <Zambezi> joedj: I heard if from more than one person so I think I can believe that.
[06:18] <StucKman> swim: touch Windows/music/:
[06:18] <joedj> Zambezi: heh.
[06:18] <swim> ok thanks
[06:18] <StucKman> swim: I think the colon is the problem
[06:18] <swim> StucKman: touch: cannot touch `Windows/music/:': No such file or directory
[06:19] <swim> oh sorry
[06:19] <swim> wait
[06:19] <noiesmo> Fassa, if its mounted on /media/sda1 then in termenial do cd /media/sda1
[06:19] <Zambezi> mosty: No. I think there's more to do. I installed Firestarter once and the nothing worked. So I think I can do some thing with the settings.
[06:19] <joshdoe> anyone have experience with an IBM ICH5R raid array setup under linux?
[06:19] <swim> StucKman: yah it says no such file or directory
[06:19] <mosty> Zambezi, openbsd's focus is security- fair enough. but most security breaches are due to users, not the developers of the system
[06:20] <Fassa> noies
[06:20] <mosty> anyway, bbl
[06:20] <JimH_> like what zam
[06:20] <technel> Has anyone ever seen this error when running grub-install? "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[06:20] <technel> "
[06:20] <Fassa> noiesmo:  im not sure where it is mounted i do know that it is mounted though
[06:20] <noiesmo> Fassa, type df -h in terminal should list it
[06:20] <joshdoe> I keep setting up the array and it shows up as 2 drives under linux when it boots
[06:20] <joshdoe> ANy ideas?
[06:21] <noiesmo> Fassa, or type mount will also display mounted devices
[06:22] <[nige] > hi all
[06:22] <BlueEagle> technel: Which device is on the node /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot? Is /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot mounted anywhere?
[06:22] <[nige] > i am trying to compile somethin but it says its needs qt3.2 or qt 4.0 any ideas where to get that from?
[06:22] <BlueEagle> !info qt
[06:22] <tom__>  Could some one help with installing Thunderbird on Ubuntu?
[06:22] <Fassa> noiesmo: ok maybe it isnt mounted its not in that list but the light is on and it is showing activity
[06:23] <BlueEagle> really...
[06:23] <[nige] > !infro qt
[06:23] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, [nige] 
[06:23] <mistra1> finally got wireless running on a Basic a535 with a Prism3 USB and Airvast card!!!!  I am psyched!!!
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> tom__: Enable !universe, sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[06:23] <noiesmo> Fassa, try sudo mount -t fat32 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[06:23] <Fassa> noiesmo:  how would i go about mounting it i tried mount /dev/sda but i got and fstab error
[06:24] <phil_> speaking of wireless, does anybody know the "current" status of bcm43xx support in dapper?
[06:24] <BlueEagle> !info qt3-apps-dev
[06:24] <ubotu> qt3-apps-dev: (Qt3 Developer applications development files), section devel, is optional. Version: 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 2356 kB, Installed size: 10168 kB
[06:24] <joshdoe> I keep setting up the array and it shows up as 2 drives under linux when it boots, do I need to load a linux driver?
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> tom__: If you mean 1.5, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion
[06:24] <BlueEagle> [nige] : qt3-apps-dev might do the trick.
[06:25] <Fassa> ok mount point does not exist
[06:25] <noiesmo> Fassa, then do sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[06:25] <BlueEagle> [nige] : if that doesn't help you've got libqt3-headers that might help
[06:26] <swim> StucKman: something else odd... I can move files into the partiton, just not an entire directory
[06:26] <[nige] > see
[06:26] <[nige] >  i have both installed
[06:26] <[nige] > :S
[06:26] <joshdoe> I keep setting up the array and it shows up as 2 drives under linux when it boots, do I need to load a linux driver?
[06:26] <BlueEagle> [nige] : how about libqt3-mt then?
[06:27] <joshdoe> Is there another forum for noobs?
[06:27] <[nige] > yep
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> joshdoe: Here's fine.
[06:27] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: I am assuming  you're talking about a raid array and a "hardware" raid array at that. Which raid chipset have you got?
[06:28] <joshdoe> IBM ICH5R raid
[06:28] <Bung> anyone using any audio players other then xmms or amarok here?
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> Bung: Rhythmbox
[06:29] <noiesmo> Bung, what are you trying to use?
[06:29] <joshdoe> any ideas
[06:29] <Bung> noiesmo: what lead you to that question?
[06:30] <[nige] > that was installed tooo
[06:30] <Bung> tonyyarusso: ill have a look, thnx
[06:30] <Zambezi> Is unotu some kind of a bot?
[06:30] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: " Intel has informed me that they are working on a Linux RAID driver for this chipset but had no specifics on a time table. Hopefully this won't take too long to complete and you will be able to add this board to the list of other "soft RAID" solutions that now work with Linux." from http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/16/1610236&mode=thread
[06:30] <noiesmo> Bung, thought you might be trying to use another and need help with it
[06:30] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: Found that link by googling IBM ICH5R raid linux
[06:30] <Bung> odd
[06:31] <joshdoe> So happens that I alos have a promise raid controller with linux driuvers
[06:31] <joshdoe> That article is also over 3 years old
[06:31] <joshdoe> Have the same probelm
[06:31] <joshdoe> My question is the same
[06:31] <Hajuu> heya! I have stuff running in lsmod that isnt in my /etc/modules file.. where else could they be? Want to disable a soundcard from running
[06:32] <joshdoe> When I install the promise raid it posts that it is active yet I still see 2 drives under Ubuntu
[06:32] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: Well I didn't read it _that_ cloesly. But the thing is that many of these "hardware" raid controllers (especially integrated) are really only semi-hardware. That being said, setting up software raid in linux isn't that much slower afaik.
[06:32] <floydwil1e> what is the best way to play real audio files
[06:32] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: did you try: sudo fdisk -l
[06:33] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: did that give you any references to /dev/md0 or the like?
[06:33] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell floydwil1e about restricted
[06:33] <joshdoe> I am a total newb so I have no idead what that is.  I was using the ununtu dist
[06:33] <joshdoe> in the automatic mode
[06:34] <phil_> joshdoe, the information BlueEagle found is still current afaik
[06:34] <joshdoe> When I boot it goes to the partition menu and says that I have 2 drives
[06:34] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: Well sudo is how you get root access and "fdisk -l" lists all drives that the kernel knows about. /dev/md* are where linux puts the nodes for raid arrays (atleast the software ones)
[06:34] <issaker> hey guys
[06:34] <phil_> bios raids are not typically well-supported under linux
[06:34] <issaker> how do i edit grub so older kernals dont show up?
[06:34] <issaker> and why do grub displays the older kernals anyways?
[06:34] <joshdoe> I try to set up alinux raid and it tells me that I have 2 drives
[06:35] <joshdoe> I try to set up alinux raid and it tells me that I have no raid prepared drives
[06:35] <Hajuu> anyone got any ideas? :(
[06:35] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: ie. when i run fdisk -l and I've got a software raid array I get: "Disk /dev/md0 doesn't contain a valid partition table" which isn't so strange as /dev/md0 isn't partitioned it's just got a filesystem on it. That confuses fdisk a bit. :)
[06:36] <joshdoe> So what you are saying is to simply set it up as a software raid under linux?
[06:36] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: I really do not know. I've never set up a hardware raid system so I couldn't tell you. :) But if linux detects the raid array as such I am guessing it would put it as /dev/md0
[06:36] <mrproper> What is the command to select what resolutions work in X?
[06:37] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: You can ofcourse try this: sudo mount /dev/md0 /mnt/
[06:37] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: If that works the raid array is initialized and ready to go already.
[06:37] <phil_> joshdoe:  afaik, you will indeed have to set up a software raid
[06:37] <joshdoe> I can do this from within the partion menu under the install right
[06:37] <Hajuu> heya! I have stuff running in lsmod that isnt in my /etc/modules file.. where else could they be? Want to disable a soundcard from running
[06:37] <joshdoe> It kinda sucks
[06:38] <joshdoe> What If I have a linux driver for the promise raid
[06:38] <joshdoe> How do I load that into the automated install of Ubuntu
[06:38] <phil_> joshdoe:  i'm new to ubuntu, but that's some pretty tricky work in every other distro i've tried
[06:38] <joshdoe> Would that give me the raid I need?
[06:38] <Cashel> is there a nongraphical install for the release canidate? For the first time ubuntu doesnt love my card....
[06:39] <joshdoe> Is there any XP like way to load it?
[06:39] <BlueEagle> cashel: #ubuntu+1
[06:39] <Cashel> BlueEagle: ok.. sorry
[06:39] <phil_> theoretically, if you have a proprietary driver for your bios raid, and know how to add it to an installer, that would work
[06:39] <joshdoe> Well I don't know how
[06:39] <Zambezi> Have anybody here an idea how much the processor work when you "VNC" Linux with X (grafical)?
[06:39] <joshdoe> Can you tell me>
[06:39] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: I don't think so as linux drivers are often kernel modules and kernel modules are often buildt to spesific kernels. However I could be wrong about that.
[06:39] <phil_> i can't -- that's a BIG task for anyone who doesn't do it on a daily basis
[06:40] <Bung> is straight mozilla easier on ram then firefox?
[06:40] <joshdoe> ok
[06:40] <joshdoe> I give up
[06:40] <joedj> Bung: worse, from what i recall
[06:40] <Bung> ok
[06:40] <joshdoe> Should I just set it up as 2 seperate drives and soft raid them during the install?
[06:40] <Bung> anything easier on ram then firefox you know off?
[06:40] <joedj> Bung: w3m =P
[06:40] <phil_> joshdoe:  that's probably the best route
[06:41] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: If the raid controller had been a _real_ raid controller you would only have seen the one drive that was set up by the raid controller and not the parts that make up the array.
[06:41] <joshdoe> I would have rather use the dedicated chips to run the raid than cpu cycles
[06:41] <joshdoe> I agree
[06:41] <noiesmo> joshdoe, a suggestion not the best but add a ide drive install ubuntu then setup driver for raid or recompile the kernel with required raid module and then set up raid from there
[06:41] <phil_> joshdoe:  there isn't a dedicated chip, really; that's the problem
[06:41] <joshdoe> Thats why I thought I needed the driver
[06:42] <Zambezi> Bung: I'm also looking for something like that.
[06:42] <Zambezi> Bung: Have you tried Opera?
[06:42] <Bung> i was just recommended that in another channel
[06:42] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: That also goes for the promise raid card. You should need no special software (bar the kernel module ofcourse) to make it work.
[06:42] <Bung> ill have to get a system monitor and test it
[06:42] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: Also the promise card may already be supported.
[06:42] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: Have you tried it?
[06:42] <joshdoe> so how do I setup the raid in linux
[06:43] <Zambezi> Bung: Have you tried Conky?
[06:43] <joshdoe> do I just partiton the drives
[06:43] <JimH_> I love Opera ...
[06:43] <ErnArg> noiesmo: please, tell me again how to use ClamAV
[06:43] <Zambezi> Bung: Or "free -m" in the terminal? -m is for MB.
[06:43] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: is the promise raid card for sATA drives?
[06:43] <joshdoe> yes but I just see 2 drives
[06:43] <joshdoe> yes
[06:43] <tuxtheslacker> hey, what video camera is good for ubuntu>
[06:43] <Bung> Zambezi: i have conky on my other desktop
[06:44] <tuxtheslacker> or does someoen have a confirmation of working?
[06:44] <_daedalus> I just tried to enable the ATI driver on my thinkpad t43 and now can't get back to X.  I'm stuck in the terminal.
[06:44] <Bung> ill try opera and se
[06:44] <tuxtheslacker> daedalus, edit you xorg.conf and put back in the "radeon" driver?
[06:44] <Zambezi> Bung: I like Conky. It's slim and shows just what it's supose to choose.
[06:45] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: I see. Because I've got a promise_sata driver installed by default with my kernel. I would assume that it would give you the raid drive set up in the bios of the promise card and not two drives.
[06:45] <noiesmo> ErnArg, from commandline do sudo clamscan -r /mdeia/hxxx
[06:45] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: Then again I've never done hw raid. :)
[06:45] <joshdoe> it doesn't
[06:45] <peruano> hi, anybody knows a link for a spanish users
[06:45] <_daedalus> I followed the instructions on ubuntu.com -- tuxtheslacker: I'm hoping there is a way to finish the task, instead of reverting back...
[06:45] <Mark1412> hey guys, what prog would i use if i wanted to copy one of my programs
[06:45] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell peruano about es
[06:45] <Zambezi> Bung: Can you tell me later if it's better than FF? But FF have alot of great addon. Like reminderfox or something.
[06:45] <joshdoe> The promise says the raid is active when I boot yet I see 2 drives when installing Uduntu
[06:45] <ErnArg> noiesmo: I've got it, thank you
[06:45] <noiesmo> ErnArg, np
[06:45] <Mark1412> Anyone got any ideas
[06:45] <peruano> yes blueEagle
[06:45] <JimH_> bung: I use Opera and freepops (when it was working) and it got all my mail also I setup im.bitlbee.org to get to this irc channel
[06:46] <tuxtheslacker> _daedalus, the point would be to get back to X to find a solution.
[06:46] <Bung> Zambezi: ill try to remember :)
[06:46] <PuLp> Hello
[06:46] <joshdoe> Ok I am in the partiton disks menu.  What option do I use to format if I wnat to raid them
[06:47] <F0LL0W3R> heey anyone know a GUI program that i can write C Codes on ubuntu ?
[06:47] <joshdoe> Use LVM or not
[06:47] <Zambezi> Bung: Are you here often?
[06:47] <Mark1412> anyone have any ideas?
[06:47] <_daedalus> tuxtheslacker: I think I can go backwards from my commands.  I am trying to find them now.
[06:47] <Bung> Zambezi: i am while i install ubuntu and light apps on my friends old laptop :)
[06:48] <joshdoe> Ok I am in the partiton disks menu.  What option do I use to format if I wnat to raid them
[06:48] <tuxtheslacker> to go backwards?
[06:48] <joshdoe> Use LVM or not
[06:48] <_daedalus> tuxtheslacker: I'm just wondering if I just have to do one more thing and it will work... or do I have to go backwards 5 steps and then go foward those 5 steps again.
[06:48] <tuxtheslacker> _daedalus, it's easier to just go to the xorg.conf
[06:48] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: I really do not know. Sorry.
[06:48] <Zambezi> joshdoe: I say no.
[06:48] <BlueEagle> joshdoe: but LVM is not raid
[06:48] <BlueEagle> afaik
[06:48] <tuxtheslacker> _daedalus, did you check to make sure your ATi card is supported to start with?
[06:48] <Zambezi> joshdoe: LVM make two harddrives to one.
[06:49] <phil_> LVM is not what you want to do at all, no
[06:49] <joshdoe> I know but when I want to raid them in the next menu it demands a certian type of partition
[06:49] <_daedalus> tuxtheslacker: hmmm... no.  :S
[06:49] <Zambezi> joshdoe: It's more secure to use one harddrive instead if it brakes or something.
[06:49] <phil_> software raid should be a partition type
[06:49] <tuxtheslacker> _daedalus, I'd check that :-)
[06:49] <_daedalus> tuxtheslacker: actually -- yes, before I bought the computer.  Ubuntu works fine on this model
[06:49] <joshdoe> I am going crazy
[06:49] <varsendaggr> phil_, not really
[06:50] <joshdoe> It wants to setup a ton of partiions
[06:50] <Zambezi> Bung: I put a reminder about two days. I hope you're still here then.
[06:50] <tuxtheslacker> _daedalus, yes, I'm asking about the proprietary driver...
[06:50] <Jimbob> does anyone know why grub shows older kernals after an upgrade?
[06:50] <tuxtheslacker> _daedalus, of course *nix works fine, I'm asking about support for the proprietary.
[06:50] <phil_> varsendaggr:  ??? -- i thought hex code 'fd' was linux sw raid...
[06:50] <F0LL0W3R> any GUI used to Write C codes on Ubuntu ?
[06:51] <xgllo> hey I'm having a problem with xgl crashing when i close synaptic or try to open klibido, i've only been using linux for 2 days so whats the best way to approach troubleshooting this p.s. already asked in ubuntu-xgl received no response
[06:51] <_daedalus> tuxtheslacker: the pages that I read about thinkpad t43 with this video card -- they were able to enable the driver.  I've followed their instructions with no luck.  This is the second time.
[06:51] <phil_> varsendaggr:  is that a non-standard identification?
[06:51] <varsendaggr> phil_, i don't know what i'm talking about
[06:51] <_daedalus> (the second time that I've tried)
[06:51] <Jimbob> anyone?
[06:51] <tuxtheslacker> oh okay.
[06:51] <tuxtheslacker> then I'd go back, and redo those instructions....
[06:51] <_daedalus> tuxtheslacker: I have my xorg.cong backed up, so I can just restore that then?
[06:52] <tuxtheslacker> I'd revert first ,and then make sure it works :-)
[06:52] <joshdoe> WHAT A PAIN IN THE ASSSSSSS!!!!!
[06:52] <joshdoe> It formate dthe drive and installed
[06:52] <tuxtheslacker> _daedalus, you COULD in any other distro, I'm not 100% sure about ubuntu.
[06:52] <_daedalus> tuxtheslacker: so go backwards on my 4 or 5 steps?
[06:52] <joshdoe> can't even make the raid
[06:52] <NickGarvey> joshdoe: ubutu?
[06:52] <joshdoe> yes
[06:52] <tuxtheslacker> I'd get that double checked in here first.
[06:52] <NickGarvey> joshdoe: it gives you choices when installing
[06:52] <tuxtheslacker> _daedalus, ^^
[06:52] <NickGarvey> joshdoe: I installed yesterday
[06:52] <joshdoe> A raid?
[06:52] <noiesmo> Jimbob, grub searchs your /boot and then relists all kernels found
[06:52] <NickGarvey> oh nope
[06:53] <Jimbob> noiesmo, why then does ubuntu keep the old kernals?
[06:53] <_daedalus> I'll just go backwards... arrgg... this computer is turning out to be more trouble than expected.
[06:53] <Jimbob> is it for safety purposes?
[06:53] <noiesmo> Jimbob, all distros do as far as i know
[06:53] <joshdoe> Its freaking amazing, I finally decide to try and do something Linux for once and jsut the installation takes 2 days
[06:53] <Jimbob> ah
[06:53] <xgllo> you trying to install on raid josh?
[06:54] <joshdoe> yes
[06:54] <noiesmo> Jimbob, just imageine an image didnt work your system would be no good saftey yes
[06:54] <xgllo> Ya i gave up on ubuntu setting up raid
[06:54] <joshdoe> I have 2 raid sata controllers and neither one works
[06:54] <Jimbob> ah ok, i see now
[06:54] <xgllo> do you have 3 drives or just 2 josh
[06:55] <joshdoe> 2
[06:55] <joshdoe> matched satas
[06:55] <joshdoe> f it
[06:55] <joshdoe> it's insta;;ing now
[06:55] <joshdoe> what a waste
[06:55] <phil_> joshdoe:  if it helps, http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html
[06:55] <joshdoe> can they be at least spanned?
[06:55] <joshdoe> I needed the continuity AND the speed
[06:55] <phil_> spanning is LVM
[06:56] <phil_> spanning won't help with speed at all
[06:56] <_daedalus> Does anyone know how to reverse this command: sudo depmod -a | sudo modprobe fglrx  ?
[06:56] <_daedalus> (going backwards to get rid of the ati)
[06:56] <joshdoe> I know
[06:56] <Hajuu> heya! I have stuff running in lsmod that isnt in my /etc/modules file.. where else could they be? Want to disable a soundcard from running
[06:56] <joshdoe> But I needed the continuity AND the speed
[06:56] <Bung> im getting a depedency issue, i need "python-pymad" but ubuntu cant find it
[06:56] <phil_> so are you trying to do a raid 0, then, striped?
[06:56] <F0LL0W3R> anyone know a GUI for Writing c-Codes Like DEv++ in Windows ?
[06:57] <phil_> i'm used to seeing mirrored system drives
[06:57] <joedj> Hajuu: /etc/modprobe.d/... perhap
[06:57] <tuxtheslacker> hey, does anyone know of a working webcam/mic setup that works for ubuntu out of the box?
[06:58] <joshdoe> thanks for the link I will try it except I am going ofr raid 0
[06:58] <Bung> ah its unstable
[06:58] <phil_> should still apply mostly, but remember NEVER try to raid0 your boot partition
[06:58] <phil_> you will have to have a separate /boot -- say 100mb at the beginning of the drive, for example -- which is either normal non-raided OR raid1
[06:58] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, logitech quickcam check this link http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/linux/webcam.html
[06:59] <tuxtheslacker> thanks noiesmo
[06:59] <phil_> GRUB doesn't support raid striping in any form -- the only reason it works with raid1 is b/c raid1 works as a single drive
[06:59] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, what mic is there?
[07:00] <NickGarvey> F0LL0W3R: I believe devC++ is for linux also
[07:00] <joshdoe> Every step of this a mofo
[07:00] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, any mic should work you will need to unmute it through mixer
[07:00] <fogos> hi someone knows, how install dapper with a low version of xserver, because the one that comes with dapper doesnt work with my gx270 dell
[07:00] <joshdoe> Now I cant get past the account setup!!!!
[07:00] <NickGarvey> F0LL0W3R: Source code : Delphi 6 Source code of Dev-C++ is available for free under the GNU General Public License                                             (GPL)
[07:00] <odat> hi everyone
 aha thx for ur caring anyway :)
[07:00] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, unmute?
[07:00] <odat> does anyone know if gstreamer plugins conflict with eachother?
[07:01] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, I use alsamixer-gui and you can click on mic and enable it then turn up volume
[07:01] <NickGarvey> F0LL0W3R: yeah.. so I'm pretty sure you can use devcpp under linux
[07:02] <F0LL0W3R> NickGarvey> so on ubuntu i can use sudo apt-get install devcpp
[07:02] <F0LL0W3R> ?
[07:02] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, in terminal do sudo apt-get install alsamixer-gui then it should appear in your multimedia menu
[07:02] <peruano> hi, i got this problem, i download adobe reader, and i extracted it to desktop, and when i try to open the install file, i got his message
[07:03] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, what settings do I change?
[07:03] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, there should be a mic setting
[07:03] <NickGarvey> F0LL0W3R: no you need to compile it I believe
[07:03] <Bung> i have a program that needs python-pymad, which itself needs python-2.3 ... ubuntu is installed with python-2.4 ... what can i do?
[07:03] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, will the alsamixer that came with it work?
[07:03] <F0LL0W3R> NickGarvey> aha
[07:03] <tuxtheslacker> and, what should I set it to?
[07:03] <Olde> just dropped in to see what's happening
[07:04] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, yes should do find mic turn it up
[07:04] <joedj> Bung: you can apt-get install python2.3
[07:04] <F0LL0W3R> NickGarvey k i will try now and if Face any problem i will tell you
[07:04] <NickGarvey> :)
[07:04] <peruano> do you want to run install or display its contents?
[07:04] <tuxtheslacker> hmm, gotta find it :-)
[07:04] <tuxtheslacker> turn the actual volume of it up?
[07:04] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, open alsamixer then use arrow keys to move to mic
[07:05] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, yes up
[07:05] <k00zk0> wow 683...
[07:05] <Caminomaster> hello
[07:05] <k00zk0> hey guys.
[07:05] <k00zk0> i got a prob
[07:05] <Caminomaster> anybody can help me with DSL?
[07:05] <Bung> joedj: it says python replaces it, and then it says the newest python is already installed
[07:05] <k00zk0> i have a .patch file i need to apply
[07:05] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, you ca test thru sound recoder
[07:05] <k00zk0> how can i go abotu this
[07:05] <biovore> k00zk0: patch -n 1 < file.patch
[07:05] <biovore> I think
[07:05] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, I'm trying to :-d
[07:06] <biovore> in the base of our source tree
[07:06] <k00zk0> i know i need the patch command but i dunno if the file needs to go intoa certain dir or anything
[07:06] <biovore> standard diff patch  (somefixes.patch)
[07:06] <k00zk0> yeah/.
[07:06] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, it doesn't appear to be working.
[07:06] <NickGarvey> k00zk0: theres a whole wiki on it I think
[07:06] <k00zk0> bio like that
[07:06] <biovore> yeah copy the patch file to the top of your src tree
[07:06] <tuxtheslacker> in the alsamixergui, what do the red buttons mean?
[07:07] <biovore> and run patch -n1 < patchfile.patch
[07:07] <k00zk0> anyone knows the command to do that?
[07:07] <joshdoe> ok its installing but the network card couldn't be installed
[07:07] <NickGarvey> !patch
[07:07] <joshdoe> can I load it form cd?
[07:07] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[07:07] <k00zk0> top of my src tree: elaborate
[07:07] <biovore> the command is called patch
[07:07] <_daedalus> phew... made it back into X.
[07:07] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, its on
[07:07] <biovore> k00zk0: what you tring to patch?
[07:07] <k00zk0> hostap patch for the kernel
[07:07] <phil_> joshdoe:  how did you boot the system?
[07:07] <k00zk0> to be able to inject packets in monitor mode
[07:07] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, it doesn't appear to be working...
[07:07] <tuxtheslacker> it should be turned up?
[07:08] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, yes turned up
[07:08] <k00zk0> its liek a normal patch just what do you mean by "top of the src tree"
[07:08] <biovore> k00zk0: kernel patch.. /usr/src/linux or you base kernel directory
[07:08] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, okay, it's turned up, and doesn't appear to be working.
[07:08] <biovore> k00zk0: then run "patch -n1 < file.patch
[07:08] <k00zk0> okay ill try
[07:08] <k00zk0> i hope it works.
[07:08] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, hmm not sure I just plugged in a mic and adjusted alsa settings and it worked you have sound of course
[07:09] <tuxtheslacker> I have sound... I think I have fubarred settings?
[07:09] <_daedalus> Has anyone here been able to install the ATI driver?  I can't get it to work, despite following the directions here: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[07:09] <Zambezi> Have anyone tried this? http://netfilter.org/
[07:10] <biovore> k00zk0: I think is patch -p 1 < file.patch actualy
[07:10] <NickGarvey> !tell _daedalus about easyubuntu
[07:10] <_daedalus> NickGarvey: hmmm... good idea.  Thanks.
[07:10] <zbyte> Hello
[07:10] <NickGarvey> :)
[07:10] <Zambezi> NickGarvey: Is that ubotu?
[07:10] <k00zk0> i have nothing in the /usr/src dir...
[07:11] <zbyte> I just installed the latest ubuntu on a dual processor 300mhz each motherboard setup, hehe. Is there a way I can see if both processors are being utilized in ubuntu?
[07:11] <k00zk0> muahah
[07:11] <k00zk0> i found a computer like that
[07:11] <k00zk0> Xgi video editing (i presume) computer
[07:11] <jadaz87> NickGarvey: do you know what the command line for updating through a time server its?
[07:11] <k00zk0> thing weighed a ton
[07:12] <biovore> zbyte: install the 686-smp kernel
[07:12] <Olde> www.easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu       has a great amout of good info
[07:12] <tuxtheslacker> what do the red buttons mean on alsamixergui?
[07:12] <noiesmo> yes
[07:12] <Bung> which gstreamer do i select in synaptec?
[07:12] <k00zk0> biovore: i have nothing in my /usr/src dir
[07:12] <zbyte> biovore how do I install the 686smp kernel
[07:12] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, that means device active on
[07:12] <biovore> zbyte: I think its apt-get install kernel-image-686-smp
[07:12] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, is it usb mic or normal
[07:13] <biovore> k00zk0: patch -p1 < filename.patch ?
[07:13] <Olde> bbl
[07:13] <zbyte> i'm new to all this..but let me try..
[07:13] <zawa> can someone tell me why my xmms is not playing mpg files?
[07:13] <k00zk0> should i just cd to the dir that the patch is in and run that command?
[07:13] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, I didn't have it pushed in the whole way. bahahahah!
[07:13] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, haha
[07:13] <tuxtheslacker> O
[07:13] <tuxtheslacker> I'm an idiot :-)
[07:13] <k00zk0> 0
[07:14] <biovore> k00zk0: you copy the patch file there aswell
[07:14] <k00zk0> to where
[07:14] <zbyte> biovore I use the add application tool?
[07:14] <k00zk0> that folder is empty...
[07:14] <biovore> the top of the kernel tree
[07:14] <noiesmo> !mpg
[07:14] <ubotu> noiesmo: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:14] <zawa> !mpg
[07:14] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, how much is that webcam?
[07:14] <k00zk0> biovore i dont know what you mena by that
[07:14] <biovore> zbyte: yeah.. look for something like linux-image or kernel-image for 686-smp
[07:14] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, in aussie about 40$ -50$
[07:15] <biovore> k00zk0: ok..  let say you extracted your kernel source to /usr/src
[07:15] <mrproper> How do I add a directory to my includes path?
[07:15] <noiesmo> zawa, you will need to add universe and multiverse to your repo's
[07:15] <k00zk0> biovore i dont know i just installed ubuntu 6.06
[07:15] <biovore> k00zk0: you would copy your patch to /usr/src and the cd to the directory and run patch -p1 < patch_file
[07:15] <k00zk0> okay
[07:15] <k00zk0> but /usr/src is empty...is that normal
[07:16] <biovore> k00zk0: you at the level where your have to rebuild the kernel to do a patch on the kernel source
[07:16] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, how about in the states :-P
[07:16] <zbyte> biovore searching..
[07:16] <biovore> k00zk0: you don't have the kernel source..
[07:16] <joshdoe> its finally running
[07:16] <joshdoe> pretty nice
[07:16] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, I live in australia man I dont know sorry dude
[07:16] <_daedalus> hmm... easyubuntu made a lot of errors but am rebooting now... hope this works.
[07:16] <k00zk0> ..fuck..
[07:16] <biovore> k00zk0: you might want to read up on building a kernel.. since you seem kinda new to all this.
[07:16] <k00zk0> see thats hwy i asked.
[07:16] <_daedalus> brb
[07:17] <k00zk0> i thought it would be possible to apply the fekkin patch with it already installed..
[07:17] <biovore> zbyte: linux-image-686-smp  thats the package
[07:17] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, it's all good :-)
[07:17] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, np :)
[07:17] <jhenn> You people probably know how ubuntu has the Main repository and the Restricted copyrights repo.  on install.  Say I didn't want ANYTHING from restricted copyright and something from it is installed during the install, if you uncheck the restricted copyrights box, and do apt-get update, will it remove all those nasty non-free programs from your system?
[07:18] <zbyte> biovore ok, searching again...
[07:18] <tuxtheslacker> hrm, I think I have an old cam downstairs, I have to see if it works :-P
[07:18] <Nutterpc> damn net connection
[07:18] <Nutterpc> lol
[07:18] <NickGarvey> jhenn: no, they will stay
[07:18] <jhenn> NickGarvey: How will you get them off?
[07:18] <NickGarvey> jhenn: I believe using synaptic you might be able to show everything installed from the restictred repository
[07:18] <tuxtheslacker> what are some good windows and linux programs that will support video?
[07:18] <NickGarvey> and just select all for deletion
[07:18] <NickGarvey> and then delete the restricted repository and update
[07:19] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, if its usb do lsusb once you've plugged it in see if its listed then do lsmod see if V4L is there
[07:19] <tuxtheslacker> I need ot know, because I need to talk to my gf with this webcam, and she's a windows user.
[07:19] <k00zk0> another problem
[07:19] <jhenn> NickGarvey: oh really can you confirm that for me?
[07:19] <k00zk0> why cant i make in ubuntu
[07:19] <k00zk0> ?
[07:19] <Nutterpc> I wonder how badly the global mirrors for ubuntu will get hammered once dapper gets released, lol
[07:19] <k00zk0> i got the make program and gcc
[07:19] <zbyte> question..can ubuntu be infected with viruses/spyware like windows?
[07:19] <noiesmo> zbyte, no
[07:19] <biovore> k00zk0: you don't have the development tools installed
[07:19] <wsjunior> how should i compile libdvdcss?
[07:19] <k00zk0> zbyte of course it can, but its hard to get something unless you let it on
[07:19] <Schalken> there are other things you need, k00kzk0
[07:19] <biovore> k00zk0: apt-get install build-essential
[07:20] <NickGarvey> jhenn: nope, not in ubuntu rigt now
[07:20] <tuxtheslacker> zbyte, in theory yes, in practice, no.
[07:20] <zbyte> biovore i searched for both, says no results found
[07:20] <satlan32> hi guys
[07:20] <NickGarvey> jhenn: sorry about that
[07:20] <wsjunior> i'm installing it without any param but totem and mplayer cant recognize it installed..
[07:20] <biovore> zbyte: pop open a terminal and type the following..  sudo apt-get install linux-image-686-smp
[07:21] <joshdoe> Ok how does  anoob install a network driver?
[07:21] <biovore> zbyte: also.. have you updated your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:21] <zbyte> biovore How do I update my etc/etc list?
[07:21] <biovore> zbyte: edit the text file at /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:22] <zbyte> does ubuntu have a update feature?
[07:22] <Trashcan> is there a package containing some more manpages for c++ functions?
[07:22] <biovore> !sources.list
[07:22] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:22] <Trashcan> yes zbyte
[07:22] <Fassa> ok ive got breezy badger to boot from usb drive but all it gives is a ubuntu light? shell how would i copy what i have on the usb HD to the HD on the pc im booted into?
[07:22] <biovore> Trashcan: see glibc on google
[07:22] <Trashcan> hehe, i was hoping you wouldn't say that
[07:22] <Trashcan> lynx is a bitch :p
[07:23] <joshdoe> Ok how does a noob install a network driver?
[07:23] <biovore> yeah.. figuring out what headers there are is kinda differnt.. but all the ansi stuff is there still
[07:23] <mrproper> How can I get nspr.h to be detected by a makefile which is searching for it?
[07:23] <zbyte> Trashcan.. where can find the update feature?
[07:23] <biovore> joshdoe: network "dirver" for what?
[07:23] <joshdoe> my network card was not recognized
[07:24] <Trashcan> just looking for quick glances at socket functions, threading, etc
[07:24] <biovore> mrproper: put it in the correct path your make file is looking for it at
[07:24] <Trashcan> without going through lynx
[07:24] <mrproper> biovore, path variable or dir?
[07:24] <biovore> Trashcan: look at perl or python
[07:24] <mrproper> biovore, Because for whatever reason, Dabber is installing it into /usr/include/firefox/nspr
[07:24] <Trashcan> lol biovore
[07:24] <biovore> mrproper: you have to look the makefile
[07:25] <mrproper> biovore, What should I look for?
[07:25] <biovore> mrproper: you know what .c or .cpp file looks for that header?
[07:25] <biovore> mrproper: look for that file in the makefile
[07:25] <zbyte> biovore i did the terminal command...says couldnt find file package ..u mentioned I should update my etc list? whats the simple way
[07:25] <joshdoe> Ok how does a noob install a network driver?
[07:25] <Trashcan> carefully
[07:26] <biovore> zbyte: did you see the wiki about /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:26] <Fassa> ok ive got breezy badger to boot from usb drive but all it gives is a ubuntu light? shell how would i copy what i have on the usb HD to the HD on the pc im booted into?
[07:26] <[Yatta] > yooo hooooo... evening ppl
[07:26] <jonathan_> hey guys, is there a gui for proftpd?
[07:26] <zbyte> biovore no, link me
[07:26] <biovore> joshdoe: what nic?
[07:26] <Trashcan> !sources.list
[07:26] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:26] <biovore> zbyte: see ubotu
[07:26] <joshdoe> onboard intel pro 10/1000
[07:26] <zbyte> !obotu
[07:26] <ubotu> zbyte: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:26] <biovore> joshdoe: wasn't reconized at bot?
[07:26] <joshdoe> no
[07:27] <biovore> (boot)
[07:27] <Trashcan> zbyte: i just linked you...
[07:27] <biovore> the modules is called e1000 for the 1GB intel nic
[07:27] <joshdoe> it said it couldn't find the network
[07:27] <biovore> joshdoe: sudo modprobe e1000
[07:27] <zbyte> !obotu update etc
[07:27] <ubotu> zbyte: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:27] <zbyte> oh ok trashcan
[07:28] <joshdoe> what does that mean?
[07:28] <[Yatta] > is there anyway i can see the stuff that is being loaed on bootup.. like in the order they are loaded??
[07:28] <[Yatta] > i hope that made sense
[07:28] <joshdoe> goodnight
[07:28] <biovore> joshdoe: that loads the e1000 module into the kernel
[07:29] <biovore> [Yatta] : yes..  change the splash to verbose in the grub bootloader.. gets rid of the graphics at boot
[07:29] <mrproper> Fixed thanks
[07:29] <noiesmo> [Yatta] , dmesg or check /var/log/syslog & /var/log/messages
[07:30] <elkbuntu> is there a factoid for getting multi-card readers working?
[07:30] <zbyte> !easysource
[07:30] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:30] <biovore> elkbuntu: usb ones?
[07:30] <elkbuntu> yeah
[07:30] <Fassa> ok ive got breezy badger to boot from usb drive but all it gives is a ubuntu light? shell how would i copy what i have on the usb HD to the HD on the pc im booted into?
[07:30] <squiggly> don't think you can
[07:30] <biovore> elkbuntu: should just work.. just like a usb memory stick
[07:31] <elkbuntu> i'll try...
[07:31] <bubba> I have a display issue, and im really unsure if it can even be fixed... Im using a lcd tv for a monitor, and i get much higher resolution using the pc (vga) connector than the hdmi/dvi connector.
[07:31] <[Yatta] > biovore, that i know of... what i want to do is setserial to none
[07:31] <squiggly> hm, i have an idea - is it possible to piggyback a webbrowser onto a thumbdrive, and surf with that?
[07:31] <squiggly> not sure if its actually safe or anything, though
[07:31] <elkbuntu> biovore it's not showing any sign of power
[07:31] <[Yatta] > the kernel is using it and i want it to stop
[07:32] <biovore> [Yatta] : ?
[07:32] <[Yatta] > i want to /setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none
[07:32] <SH-ubuntu> anyone here who can help a newbie :)? i am trying to increase my hz from 60 to 85 and now i am in the terminal but i dont know how to save my changes in the xorg.conf. in a tutorial they say "press enter" but then i just get a new line
[07:32] <biovore> your kernel spitting out stuff on the serial port?
[07:33] <biovore> [Yatta] : tring to use the serial port for pin twittling?
[07:33] <[Yatta] > lirc_serial: port 03f8 already in use ....
[07:33] <[Yatta] > the kernel is using COM1 ...
[07:34] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, are you using vi or nano
[07:34] <bubba> SH-ubuntu, in your terminal, you are using a text editor right? (pico?  nano?), in pico ctrl-x will exit
[07:34] <[Yatta] >  i want to issue setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none  soo that lirc_serial can ue the port
[07:34] <zbyte> ok..i got automatically generated sources list via the link..what do I do with them
[07:34] <biovore> [Yatta] : intressting.. stock kernel isn't suppose to..
[07:34] <SH-ubuntu> i just did what the tutorial told me one moment i will look it up
[07:34] <biovore> [Yatta] : check lsof | grep /dev/ttyS0 so see what is locking the serial port
[07:35] <bubba> so.... im confused about dvi/hdmi being lower resolution than vga.
[07:35] <SH-ubuntu> sudo vi xorg.conf << this was the command and then i erased one line (load "dri") and changed vert refresh from 60 to 85
[07:35] <SH-ubuntu> i am totally new to ubuntu, or linux in general
[07:35] <biovore> bubba: dvi is higher res then vga
[07:36] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, for vi you press esc then shift : then wq easiler to do nano then its ctrl+x
[07:36] <zbyte> is there a clickable app to update ubuntu?
[07:36] <biovore> theres an update manager
[07:36] <SH-ubuntu> so if i press esc then shift my changes in this file are saved?
[07:36] <bubba> biovore, I have a tv w/hdmi connected to a dvi cable to a dvi connector on my video card, and it sucks compared to the vga.
[07:36] <zbyte> !obotu update manager
[07:36] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zbyte
[07:36] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, you need to push : key and wq to write and quit
[07:36] <bubba> biovore, it says its 1080i (doesnt show resolution)
[07:37] <zbyte> !obotu update.manager
[07:37] <ubotu> zbyte: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:37] <biovore> bubba: timming probably not correct
[07:37] <[Yatta] > lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev  ????
[07:37] <zbyte> !obotu update
[07:37] <ubotu> zbyte: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:37] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, do sudo nano /path/to/file then youy can save with ctrl+x
[07:37] <biovore> 1080i is interlaced 1080 lines
[07:37] <Madpilot> !update
[07:37] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Madpilot
[07:37] <Madpilot> !upgrade
[07:37] <ubotu> hmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[07:37] <[Yatta] > biovore, when i look in dmesg ....
[07:37] <SH-ubuntu> thx thats much to understand but i will try
[07:38] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, nano is a much easier edit to use
[07:38] <[Yatta] > ...... [4294670.575000]  serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[07:38] <[Yatta] >      ----> This is waht i want to stop from happening
[07:38] <SH-ubuntu> i dont know anything :) whats "wq"? the two letters or something special?
[07:38] <biovore> [Yatta] : that just the kernel saying you have a serial port..
[07:38] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, wq stands for write file and quit
[07:39] <SH-ubuntu> ah ok
[07:39] <biovore> it gives you the /dev/ttyS0
[07:39] <zbyte> gksudo "update-manager -d" says my system is uptodate
[07:39] <bubba> biovore, I ran dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-org with it on the hdmi, and it came up with 2 resolutions (640x640, and 720x480)
[07:39] <biovore> [Yatta] : that dosn't lock it.. that creates the /dev device
[07:39] <biovore> bubba: 720x480 is the native resoultion of HDTV
[07:40] <bubba> biovore, but with the vga cable, i can do 1280x1024
[07:40] <SH-ubuntu> hmm if i press esc then shift i get a "beep" sound :(
[07:40] <biovore> its also the resultion of DVD's
[07:40] <biovore> bubba: your not actualy doing 1280x1024.. the TV under samples it.
[07:40] <[Yatta] > some thing locks it though... accoring to soem doc i've read... and look at this
[07:40] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, ok push esc then shift + : key
[07:41] <[Yatta] >  lirc_serial: port 03f8 already in use ---------> lirc_serial: use 'setserial /dev/ttySX uart none' ---->lirc_serial: or compile the serial port driver as module and
[07:41] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu,  check this http://math.la.asu.edu/vi_tutorial/vi7.html
[07:41] <[Yatta] > lirc_serial: make sure this module is loaded first
[07:41] <bubba> biovore, yeah, but it does do 1024x768 perfectly, and says its 1366x768 lcd
[07:41] <zbyte> someone help  me updating list so i can get linux-image-686-smp
[07:41] <hyphenated> SH-ubuntu: you're probably better off searching google for a vi users guide or something. it's not really suitable for newbies
[07:41] <SH-ubuntu> ah thx now it is done
[07:41] <biovore> hmm hdmi might be the limiting factor
[07:41] <bubba> biovore, so... im confused, i thought it would look better on the hdmi/dvi cable...
[07:42] <SH-ubuntu> i just searched for a german tutorial how explains it easy the graphic driver are installed, no big deal
[07:42] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, use nano instead of vi
[07:42] <SH-ubuntu> but hx for the info
[07:42] <noiesmo> np
[07:42] <biovore> [Yatta] : it says you need the serial port kernel modules right?
[07:42] <zbyte> where do i input the items generated by sourceOmatic
[07:42] <biovore> [Yatta] : and it needs to be loaded?
[07:42] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, any tutorial you follow just replace vi with nano then at bottom of screen it tells you how to save exit etc
[07:42] <bubba> biovore, unless theres some setting i can change ?? im guessing vga is better quality that hdmi.
[07:42] <SH-ubuntu> ah great thx
[07:42] <[Yatta] > but it's trying to load....
[07:43] <[Yatta] > i have a small script tha i have to load.. then it;ll work..
[07:43] <biovore> bubba: well the main problem is DVI -> HDMI
[07:43] <SH-ubuntu> the changes took effect in the xorg.conf but i still can't change from 60hz to any other rate
[07:43] <[Yatta] > BUT i want to have it run from bootup
[07:43] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, you need to restart X
[07:43] <bubba> from what ive read, hdmi is exactly the same as dvi but it adds audio.
[07:43] <biovore> [Yatta] : that script do that setserial thing?
[07:43] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, this can be done by pushing ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:43] <SH-ubuntu> ah how can i do this? i see i have to learn much more to start such things with linux
[07:44] <SH-ubuntu> hehe thx
[07:44] <[Yatta] > the scripte basiucally says .... setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none  then > depmod -ae --> modprobe lirc_serial
[07:44] <SH-ubuntu> answer before question
[07:44] <SH-ubuntu> i try
[07:44] <biovore> [Yatta] : ok cool.. we can add that script to the boot sequence
[07:44] <noiesmo> hope his settings were ok or he'll have no X
[07:44] <biovore> [Yatta] : just copy that script to /etc/init.d/
[07:45] <[Yatta] > i;ve tried that the thing is.... it works sometimes then others it don't??
[07:45] <bubba> biovore, so I could get a dvi-vga adapter, but would that be any better than just using the vga cable?
[07:45] <top222> Hello
[07:45] <biovore> and make a symlink to it from /etc/rc2.d/ as S50setserial
[07:45] <[Yatta] > i made a scrpt called homebreww
[07:45] <top222> Is there a canonical (no pun intended) way to install Firefox 1.5 into Ubuntu 5.10 ?
[07:46] <[Yatta] > ohhh S50 .. i had it set to S99homebrew
[07:46] <biovore> bubba: well vga is analog..  dvi is high speed digital
[07:46] <Hobbsee> !tell top222 about firefox1.5
[07:46] <SH-ubuntu> x restartet but the only thing changed was a new option of resolution, no "hz" change...
[07:46] <bubba> biovore, yeah, but they are both going into the same vga port on the tv...
[07:47] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, your hz is dependant on the resolution depending on the driver used for video
[07:47] <family> msg family
[07:47] <zbyte> is there a way i can manually download linux-image-686-smp
[07:47] <SH-ubuntu> i installed the new drivers from nivida
[07:47] <biovore> bubba: yeah.. the dvi to vga adaptors don't actualy convert anything.. they just short 2 pin on the dvi adaptor so the graphic card know to spit out analog not digital
[07:47] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, on my nvidia system I can have 1260xblah at 60hz and then 1152x Blah at 75Hz it also depends on monitor
[07:47] <SH-ubuntu> and my monitor is a crt that can show more then 60hz on 1024*768
[07:48] <[Yatta] > biovore, sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/homebrew /etc/rcS.d/S99homebrew
[07:48] <[Yatta] > is what i did
[07:48] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, here;s link to my config I have nvidia 660gt and benq 17: monitor
[07:48] <biovore> [Yatta] : well probably want before 99 like 90 or something
[07:48] <SH-ubuntu> well on windows he can, but i think the hz border should be the same
[07:48] <biovore> 99 you set your self up for a race condition with x server
[07:48] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060513134702855
[07:48] <zbyte> i need to find this package linux-image-686-smp, please help
[07:49] <zbyte> !obotu linux-image-686-smp
[07:49] <[Yatta] > if i want to remove it just rm  /etc/rcS.d/S99homebrew   ???
[07:49] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zbyte
[07:49] <bubba> biovore, so, does this mean the monitor would or would not get a better signal from the dvi?
[07:49] <tritium> zbyte: get it on packages.ubuntu.com, then
[07:49] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, check the monito section its what i did to increase hz
[07:49] <zbyte> tritium thanks, I try that
[07:49] <biovore> bubba: can't tell you giving the current infomation on the problem
[07:49] <SH-ubuntu> ok thx
[07:50] <julian> anyone know how to enable 3d acceleration for radeon x300
[07:50] <biovore> !ati
[07:50] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:50] <bubba> biovore, ok... i guess im just frustrated... I just spent about $150 on a new video card and cables, and it looks worse with the new cable...
[07:50] <[Yatta] > biovore, the thing that is gettign me is that it works SOMETIMES... u see if it never worked i could live with that and just keep trying something else
[07:51] <julian> thanks, im gona chek it out
[07:51] <bubba> biovore, and exactly the same on just the vga... I can return $150 worth of stuff, and have just as good setup...
[07:51] <biovore> [Yatta] : see whats taking up the device using lsof
[07:52] <biovore> bubba: yeah its card independed
[07:52] <biovore> (dependent I mean)
[07:52] <bubba> biovore, sadly, i got a tv with hdmi and no dvi connector...
[07:52] <zbyte> tritium ok I found the package..and downloaded, how can I install it
[07:52] <[Yatta] > biovore, i should do that right after i boot
[07:52] <[Yatta] > ?
[07:53] <bubba> biovore, I was under the impression that hdmi was as good/better than dvi.
[07:53] <biovore> yeah.. there all like that.. hdmi is simular to dvi but not quite the same..  the reason is the mpaa licenses HDMI and the video card manufacture association dose DVI because they don't want to pay the royalties to mpaa
[07:53] <zbyte> how can I install this file: linux-image-686-smp_2.6.12.16.1_i386.deb
[07:53] <SH-ubuntu> whats the command in nano to save? i forgot it sry
[07:53] <biovore> zbyte: dpkg -i <file.deb>
[07:53] <tritium> zbyte: sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>
[07:54] <k00zk0> biovore
[07:54] <k00zk0> can i pm you?
[07:54] <noiesmo> ctrl+x
[07:54] <SH-ubuntu> ah thx
[07:54] <biovore> sure
[07:54] <bubba> biovore, heh... why should anyone ever pay the mpaa?
[07:55] <biovore> anyway bed time here..
[07:55] <bubba> biovore, now im wishing i could return the tv and get one with dvi :(
[07:56] <Ademan> can you get the music player applet through apt-get ? i can't find it... but i can find the rhythmbox applet...
[07:56] <biovore> bubba: yeah.. Its still kinda not very well defined standard from what I can gather
[07:56] <zbyte> whats a quick way to find out what version of ubuntu i'm running
[07:56] <crimsun> lsb_release -r
[07:56] <Hobbsee> cat /etc/issue
[07:56] <biovore> Ademan: xmms aramok are good ones
[07:56] <k00zk0> biovore pm...
[07:56] <[Yatta] > biovore, I'll give that a try .... thanks for the help.
[07:57] <DeadlyTiga> now i crashed the system :)
[07:57] <Ademan> biovore: no the APPLET's sorry i shoulda been more specific, the GNOME APPLETs, like that go in the panels
[07:58] <bubba> biovore, thanks for the info, i guess i'll stop wasting my time trying to get this stupid thing to work the way i want it to... since it likely wont!
[07:58] <Ademan> and actually, i'm not too big of a fan of xmms personally
[07:58] <Z10N0101> Hello!
[07:58] <biovore> I don't use gnome.. so I don't know
[07:58] <Zambezi> Dammit. FF crasched and I had 10 windows opened. :-(
[07:58] <Z10N0101> I have a Question about the File manager of Gnome
[07:58] <ubuntu> hello
[07:58] <rixxon> nice nickname :P
[07:58] <k00zk0> nice nick
[07:58] <Ademan> ff 1.0.8 or whatever isnt too hot
[07:58] <k00zk0> hehe
[07:58] <k00zk0> biovore pm!!
[07:59] <biovore> k00zk0: I did
[07:59] <Zambezi> I have 1.5.0.3
[07:59] <DeadlyTiga> first time using linux and i crashed it in one hour :(
[07:59] <Z10N0101> why when I click any dir in the file manager, it opens another one ???
[07:59] <zbyte> ubuntu 5.10 is the 'breezy' edition?
[07:59] <Zambezi> And now I pissed cause I can't copy all the messages so I can find the messages I sent earlier.
[08:00] <onkarshinde> what tool I can use to search for available wireless networks?
[08:00] <Zambezi> Z10N0101: That filemanager is bad.
[08:00] <DeadlyTiga> great
[08:00] <Zambezi> Z10N0101: Theres anotherone which is better.
[08:00] <Z10N0101> Zambezi, Douppp, It about configuration buddy. I Suck with gnome, But is GREAT!
[08:00] <DeadlyTiga> 85hz thx to the guy(s) who helped me :)
[08:01] <k00zk0> 85hz?
[08:01] <biovore> monitor refersh rate
[08:01] <k00zk0> ah
[08:01] <k00zk0> :P
[08:01] <onkarshinde> what tool I can use to search for available wireless networks?
[08:02] <Zambezi> Z10N0101: Of course, I don't remeber the name but I'm trying.
[08:02] <k00zk0> onkarshinde get kismet
[08:02] <biovore> yeah kismit
[08:02] <DeadlyTiga> k00zk0, i had only 60Hz @ 1024
[08:02] <DeadlyTiga> but now 85 better for my eyes
[08:02] <tritium> onkarshinde: network-manager is a nice gui.  iwconfig <interface> scanning, otherwise
[08:02] <onkarshinde> k00zk0: is it command line tool?
[08:03] <k00zk0> its a little advanced but not too hard to use
[08:03] <k00zk0> yeah onkarshinde
[08:03] <k00zk0> but looks okay
[08:03] <k00zk0> it gets you the info.
[08:03] <Zambezi> Z10N0101: I think it's called Thunar.
[08:03] <DeadlyTiga> why is sh-ubuntu still connected?
[08:03] <k00zk0> BioSnorE
[08:03] <k00zk0> biovore
[08:03] <SH-ubuntu2> confusing
[08:03] <Z10N0101> Thunar ???
[08:03] <Z10N0101> Let me check
[08:03] <jhenn> how do you upgrade from dapper beta to dapper release?
[08:04] <k00zk0> it will upgrade itself using synaptic
[08:04] <k00zk0> when it releases
[08:04] <zbyte> i'm getting farther in my goal..that smp package..relied on another 18mb smp package..searched it..downloaded and its installing
[08:05] <k00zk0> just add all of the repositories except the cd into synaptic and refresh
[08:05] <tritium> jhenn: there will be instructions when it is released
[08:05] <Zambezi> Z10N0101: Search on Google. You definetly find something there. Add file manager too. I think it's on sourceforge.
[08:05] <zbyte> once i do the sudo dkpkg command, that means it is installed? no second steps after that?
[08:06] <k00zk0> when you have a deb file yes sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[08:06] <k00zk0> and it will install
[08:06] <Zambezi> Z10N0101: http://thunar.xfce.org/images/filewindow-1.png
[08:06] <k00zk0> assuming all of the required dependencies are installed
[08:06] <onkarshinde> zbyte: what are you trying to install?
[08:07] <Z10N0101> ohh, Thanks Zambezi, I'll Download it!! It seems to be nice
[08:07] <zbyte> ok..i think the smp package installed..is there a way to find out if ubuntu is now using both processors
[08:07] <zbyte> onkarshinde i installed ubuntu on a old dual pentium processor setup.. needed to download smp package to enable both, so I'm told
[08:07] <tritium> zbyte: did you reboot into your newly installed kernel?
[08:08] <Zambezi> Z10N0101: Np. I got the advice when I tried Ubuntu the first time for a couple of month ago. Also check out Conky. It shows CPU and memory uses.
[08:08] <zbyte> tritium no, let me do that, brb
[08:08] <tritium> zbyte: ok
[08:09] <sponix> !beep
[08:09] <ubotu> sponix: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:09] <sponix> anyone have a link to turning off the console beeps ?
[08:09] <Zambezi> I'm going to bed now. Have a good day or night. ;-)
[08:10] <SH-ubuntu2> 8 a.m at my place (germany)
[08:10] <Zambezi> SH-ubuntu: At my place too, that's why I'm going to bed. :-P
[08:11] <stasislove> i have now installed nvidia drivers and can rebot xserver without problems, but when i reboot the computer i get same message as before that nvidia module is of wrong veresion then i must reinstall nvidia drivers inorder to boot can anyone help?
[08:11] <SH-ubuntu2> i am thinking about it, if i should go to bed too
[08:11] <tritium> stasislove: which nvidia drivers did you install?  ubuntu packages?
[08:11] <Zambezi> SH-ubuntu: I need to sleep for a couple of hours. Bye bye! Sleep well.
[08:11] <SH-ubuntu2> hehe gn8
[08:12] <stasislove> tritium, ubuntu packeges did not work at all, so i installed 8756 from nvidia and it works untill i reboot
[08:13] <BioSnorE> stasislove: thats because the ubuntu nvidia shit fucks the tls libgl libs stuff
[08:13] <BioSnorE> stasislove: rm /etc/init.d/nvidia-tls thing
[08:13] <BioSnorE> stasislove: and re do the nvidia driver
[08:14] <tritium> BioSnorE: watch your language
[08:14] <stasislove> BioSnorE, ok thanks man ill try that
[08:14] <Caminomaster> tratar de dormir, slo si despierto para caminar hasta la cama
[08:14] <Caminomaster> y si ese caminar no es un sueo
[08:14] <tritium> stasislove: are you booting into a kernel other than what you built nvidia modules from?
[08:14] <tritium> !es
[08:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:15] <zbyte> tritium i rebooted.. is there a way to see if both cpus being utilized?
[08:15] <stasislove> tritium, no kernel veresion is the same its nvidia module that changes to another after reboot
[08:16] <BioSnorE> hes install nvidia's version of the driver not ubuntus
[08:16] <tritium> zbyte: what does "cat /proc/cpuinfo" tell you?
[08:16] <tritium> I'm aware, BioSnorE.
[08:16] <tritium> stasislove: as I mentioned earlier, ubuntu packages are preferred
[08:17] <zbyte> tritium tells me information about processor chip..from both, processor 0 and processor 1
[08:18] <tritium> zbyte: cool :)
[08:18] <stasislove> tritium, yes but the link you gave says: install nvidia-config (or something) and nvidia-glx, and i cant install both it uninstalls one of them so i can only have eather glx or config and when i proceed anyway with glx it installs but refuses to boot becouse module is missing or something i dont remember now
[08:18] <zbyte> so i'm dualing processing now? 300hmz x2=600mhz   man i'm so cool
[08:19] <tritium> stasislove: the wiki page shouldn't suggest nvidia-config
[08:20] <dli> how to open a root terminal in ubuntu livecd ?
[08:20] <Madpilot> dli, Applications->Accessories->Terminal, then just use sudo
[08:21] <dli> Madpilot, I suppose there's no passwd
[08:21] <Madpilot> "sudo -i" for a 'root' session
[08:21] <Madpilot> dli, not on the LiveCD
[08:21] <zbyte> tritium how can i learn all those small cool commands?
[08:21] <stasislove> tritium, well maybee it wasnt config i dont remember now, but it was something that i can not have at the same time as glx but it did install anyway no problem there but when xconfig file is changed it refused to boot
[08:22] <dli> Madpilot, thanks, I'm recommending ubuntu livecd to friends, but never saw one myself
[08:22] <tritium> zbyte: with time/experience, mostly
[08:22] <tritium> stasislove: what was the error/problem?
[08:22] <zbyte> sudo -i /make #cola drink -send tritium
[08:22] <zbyte> thanks for help
[08:23] <tritium> no problem, zbyte :)
[08:23] <Antipodean> hola folks ;)
[08:23] <Antipodean> sheesh, its quiter in here than when I last popped in!
[08:25] <zbyte> there was a few opinions that viruses/spyware Cant and can enter ubuntu..since its a debating issue, is there any protection applications for ubuntu. like freeware viruscanner?
[08:25] <dli> Madpilot, I will download one dapper livecd to my usb-stick, and have a look myself
[08:26] <zbyte> !obotu virus
[08:26] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zbyte
[08:26] <roryy> zbyte: there are some virus scanners in the repos.  clamav and aegis-virus-scanner are two
[08:26] <stasislove> tritium, it was something with /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy missing
[08:26] <Antipodean> anyhoo... anybody here ever networked their Ubuntu pc to their chipped xbox? I'm just thinking that it'd be good to have it all setup like i did under xp, for to stream avi's etc to my tv... I was hoping yez might offer a cpl of pointers ;)
[08:26] <dli> zbyte, not needed, I still don't know any spyware for firefox
[08:26] <maikol> hey
[08:26] <dli> zbyte, even if it can get in, it can not get root, so, can be easily traced and cleaned
[08:26] <roryy> zbyte: however, as i understand, they are most used for scanning for *windows* viruses on data that passes through the linux machine, e.g., windows shares via samba or mail
[08:27] <Trashcan> yeah
[08:27] <Trashcan> who actually writes virii for linux, anyway
[08:27] <Trashcan> (that are widespread)
[08:27] <zbyte> ok..so ubuntu is immune to virus damage
[08:27] <Trashcan> more or less. the bottom line is, you needn't really worry
[08:27] <Trashcan> if files start disappearing it'll be easy to find
[08:28] <maikol> when im installing ubuntu, the partitioner shows ??? ???, and selecting continue is an endless cycle.
[08:28] <Trashcan> and it can't really *damage* your system, not like you can damage a windows box
[08:28] <roryy> zbyte: It is relatively important to keep up-to-date with security patches using synaptic or aptitude.
[08:29] <roryy> Trashcan: perhaps.  All my *really* important data happens to be in $HOME, where a virus could do damage.  I couldn't care less if /usr was wiped out, since I can recover all my personal data.
[08:29] <bodinux> hello
[08:29] <zbyte> so dont keep personal stuff in HOME?
[08:29] <dli> zbyte, it's virus free, and crash free, and most of time, rebooting free. Just don't think it's windows like
[08:29] <Antipodean> sooo... no tips/sugesstions on networking an ubuntu pc to an xbox?
[08:29] <Trashcan> roryy: my point is, i've found windows machines completely unbootable due to a virus
[08:30] <roryy> zbyte: no, not at all. I'm pointing out that one can't be too smug about viruses not being able to access non-user files
[08:30] <bodinux> hello I have a problem with the 'waiting for root filesystem'. Can anyone help ?
[08:30] <tritium> Antipodean: what is your question, specifically?  Setup your ubuntu machine to exist on the network.  Nothing special about there being an xbox also on the network.
[08:31] <zbyte> yes..i have 11+years on windows platforms..windows machines are sypware infected thingies.. infact 85% percent of my business is removing spyware
[08:31] <zbyte> spyware people should die
[08:31] <Trashcan> tritium: he's trying to stream music/video from his linux PC
[08:31] <Trashcan> like you can do with XBMC
[08:31] <cciRRus> hi...
[08:31] <dli> bodinux, what kind of system?
[08:31] <Antipodean> Trashcan: thats it
[08:31] <tritium> Trashcan: so why's his question about networking?
[08:32] <dli> bodinux, you have to provide specific and accurate info to get help
[08:32] <cciRRus> what are the difference between the packages "linux-386" and "linux-image-2.6....." and "linux-image-386"? Do I need all of them?
[08:32] <Trashcan> because he's trying to network his xbox *to* his pc?
[08:32] <dli> zbyte, hopeless for windows people, many spywares are powered by big companies
[08:32] <Antipodean> tritum: i appologise for my ignorance & noobieness
[08:32] <Antipodean> :P
[08:32] <Trashcan> the real question would be, are there any apps for linux to stream to xbmc
[08:32] <bodinux> dli : my system is a simple computer with two disks. I simply get an 'can't find /dev/hda11'
[08:32] <tritium> cciRRus: dependencies are the difference.  for example, linux-$arch depend on linux-restrited-modules, etc.
[08:32] <cciRRus> hmm ok
[08:33] <Antipodean> Trashcan: thanks for clarifying
[08:33] <dli> bodinux, are you sure it's /dev/hda11 ?
[08:33] <bodinux> dli: I tried the evms_activate stuff but it didn't work
[08:33] <bodinux> dli: Yes I am sure.
[08:33] <cciRRus> coz under Software Updates I was prompted to update quite a few kernel related packages. I wish to save time by updating only those required.
[08:33] <roryy> cciRRus: try 'apt-cache depends linux-386' (and for the others) to see the dependency chain
[08:33] <tritium> Antipodean: are you using a router, or do you want to use a crossover cable?
[08:33] <cciRRus> OH
[08:34] <cciRRus> thanks i'll try
[08:34] <Antipodean> crossover
[08:34] <roryy> cciRRus: there's only 1 really big kernel package; the others are tiny metapackages
[08:34] <cciRRus> i see....
[08:34] <dli> bodinux, boot the livecd, and double check the root partition
[08:34] <roryy> well, two: linux-image-somethinglong and linux-restricted-modules-somethinglong
[08:35] <cciRRus> 1 more question, when i install a package, it requires n other packages. however when i remove that package, apt-get doesnt remove the rest of the n packages. how should i remove the unecessary packages?
[08:35] <zbyte> to setup a box running ubuntu as a fileserver (for windows)..basically run samba..and set share properties on folder
[08:35] <zbyte> ?
[08:35] <bodinux> dli : what do you mean by double ckeck the root partition. I was updating from my working 5.10 and I still can boot using the old kernel.
[08:35] <bodinux> dli : thanks for helping
[08:35] <dli> cciRRus, sudo apt-get install deborphan
[08:35] <rixxon> on ubuntu for my first time \o/
[08:35] <roryy> cciRRus: you can try using deborphan to remove unused packages.  Also, use aptitude in the future instead of apt-get
[08:36] <tritium> cciRRus: aptitude would behave that way
[08:36] <cciRRus> oooooh ok.
[08:36] <dli> bodinux, you build your own kernel?
[08:36] <cciRRus> im very new to apt-get and dpkg
[08:36] <bodinux> no such thing for me !
[08:36] <cciRRus> thanks guys
[08:36] <rixxon> im a windows user who always wanted to be a linux user but never *really* liked any of the linuces i tried. ubuntu is the first linux i really can see myself using every-day
[08:37] <cciRRus> cool
[08:37] <cciRRus> i switched my boxes over from Fedora and Gentoo
[08:37] <cciRRus> to Ubuntu :)
[08:37] <Trashcan> i switched two systems from XP and one from ... "no operating system found"
[08:37] <rixxon> can't say i like windows though, but im so darn used to it
[08:38] <rixxon> its not easy to just switch to another os
[08:38] <maikol> so, does anyone know why the installer's partitioner isnt working? shows only question marks and 'continues' endlessly
[08:38] <Trashcan> yeah rixxon, its hard leaving the comfort zone of the apps that you know
[08:39] <Trashcan> nice thing about ubuntu is it takes about a half hour to find free replacements to everything you used before, right from the "add programs"
[08:39] <rixxon> ubuntu seems to actually manage being a user-friendly linux without being a windows-linux hybrid :P
[08:39] <stasislove> i have security policy missing for xserver /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy i cant even logout and thats why i cant install drivers
[08:39] <Antipodean> I've found most of the adjustment pretty easy - its just the terminal that takes getting used to
[08:39] <cciRRus> anyone here uses tightVNC on your ubuntu?
[08:39] <bodinux> dli : Are you still there ?
[08:40] <rixxon> although main reason why i disliked all linuces i tried is they are so ugly, they all used kde
[08:40] <rixxon> ubuntu is really pretty
[08:40] <Trashcan> hehe
[08:40] <cciRRus> kde can be quite nice looking
[08:40] <rixxon> maybe, i haven't seen it though :P
[08:40] <rixxon> but its not just gnome i like about ubuntu
[08:41] <dli> bodinux, sorry, I can not help
[08:41] <cciRRus> KDE>> http://www.lynucs.org/?kde
[08:41] <ryle> does anyone know how to change my display to 96 dpi? i tried this 5.04 howto and it just destroyed x server
[08:41] <Trashcan> my favorite feature about ubuntu is that every question i've asked so far is either a) answered in the faq or b) answered in the wiki
[08:41] <eobanb> Trashcan, heh
[08:42] <bodinux> thanks for trying, I thought that this bug was solved before they went to a release 'that every user' could install....
[08:42] <F0LL0W3R> ryle system > prefrences> fonts > Details
[08:42] <julian> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[08:43] <julian> ???
[08:43] <Trashcan> shouldn't build-essential get the right nix headers
[08:43] <dli> bodinux, no, your own mistake, I can not help, because you are not locating the problem
[08:43] <roryy> Trashcan: not linux headers; std C lib
[08:44] <Trashcan> doh
[08:44] <Schalken> what packages contains the x headers and libraries?
[08:44] <roryy> Schalken: x-window-system-dev
[08:44] <Schalken> roryy, thnx
[08:45] <tritium> Schalken: xlibs-dev
[08:45] <julian> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 how do i fix this. im trying to install ati driver
[08:45] <dli> Schalken, better do " apt-get build-dep "
[08:45] <crimsun> x-dev, probably seeing how we've retired support for warty
[08:46] <tritium> julian: have you tried the ati packages?
[08:46] <crimsun> otherwise libx11-dev + $otherModularDevPackages
[08:46] <mr_hus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14755
[08:46] <mr_hus> anybody knows what this is all about?
[08:46] <rixxon> can someone please tell me how the hell i managed to keep my interest in computers when using windows?!
[08:46] <tritium> julian: (ubuntu packages)
[08:46] <crimsun> rixxon: people survive for years in comas.
[08:46] <rixxon> crimsun: must be something similar yea
[08:47] <julian> ya i uninstall them cuz games were choppy
[08:47] <srhalfwaythere> hey all
[08:47] <crimsun> mr_hus: we need the output from ``dpkg -D3773 -i /var/cache/apt/archives/ntp-server_1%3a4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu5_i386.deb''
[08:47] <dli> mr_hus, can you try, ntp-simple, instead of ntp-server
[08:48] <k00zk0> what command do i type to apply a .patch file to the kernel?
[08:48] <rixxon> will be interesting to see if i can install ubuntu on this laptop though
[08:48] <rixxon> never succeed with any other linux
[08:48] <rixxon> stupid special hardware
[08:48] <rixxon> (probably more like stupid me but still)
[08:48] <Schalken> dli, whats " apt-get build-dep " do?
[08:48] <tritium> rixxon: which laptop?
[08:48] <rixxon> tritium: fujitsu siemens amilo pro
[08:48] <dli> rixxon, why it fails?
[08:48] <tritium> Schalken: install build dependencies of a package
[08:48] <rixxon> they don't find hard drive
[08:49] <rixxon> livecds works fine
[08:49] <tritium> rixxon: hmm, okay
[08:49] <hastesaver> But I still loved that with Windows, every operation could be performed with either mouse or keyboard... very strange that Linux apps don't have as many keyboard shortcuts...
[08:49] <dli> rixxon, japanese laptops seem to be anti-linux, sony or fujitsu
[08:49] <Schalken> but what would that package be for x headers and libraries?
[08:49] <dli> rixxon, then, you can get it :)
[08:50] <dli> Schalken, why are you asking for them?
[08:50] <Ademan> how do i make thunderbird my default mail program? (or should i just use evolution?)
[08:51] <rixxon> ah, there we go *finds how to make console white/black so irssi looks normal again*
[08:51] <dli> hastesaver, that's a comment, not a question
[08:51] <mr_hus> crimsun: here's the output of that command... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14756
[08:51] <Madpilot> Ademan, Systems->Prefs->Preferred Apps
[08:51] <Ademan> thanks Madpilot
[08:51] <uscg_corey> im not a fan of evolution
[08:51] <Ademan> i havent touched it
[08:51] <tritium> !xinclude
[08:51] <ubotu> tritium: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:51] <uscg_corey> itsnot very customizable
[08:51] <tritium> !xincludes
[08:51] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[08:51] <BHSPitLappy> a creationist, eh?
[08:51] <hastesaver> dli, um, people *were* making comments here, and there were very few questions, so I thought it was okay... sorry
[08:52] <Ademan> thunderbird was the first thing i installed
[08:52] <uscg_corey> evo would be nicer if it had better new mail notifications and native panel support
[08:53] <crimsun> mr_hus: pastebin the prerm from the new package.
[08:53] <crimsun> my hunch is that it's bailing because there's no server running, but I haven't looked at the prerm since I don't have it installed.
[08:53] <mr_hus> prerm?
[08:54] <uscg_corey> does thunderbird have calender/tasks/etc ?
[08:54] <rixxon> dli: what do you mean?
[08:55] <dli> rixxon, if the livecd can get it, you can install
[08:55] <crimsun> meh, I'll just grab it myself
[08:56] <mr_hus> sorry dont know what that is ;-)
[08:56] <rixxon> dli: i can run livecd, not install from
[08:56] <tritium> uscg_corey: no, separate apps for that, and no exchange account support either
[08:56] <rixxon> dli: installers don't find hard drive...
[08:57] <rixxon> dli: haven't tried with ubuntu yet though
[08:57] <dli> rixxon, can livecd see hdd?
[08:57] <rixxon> define 'see'
[08:58] <hastesaver> rixxon, btw, dapper's live cd and recommended install cd are the same; there's less for you to download if you want to try dapper :)
[08:58] <rixxon> which version is dapper?
[08:58] <rixxon> im currently on the 6.06 desktop cd
[08:58] <rixxon> rc
[08:58] <hastesaver> rixxon, oh, that's the one I meant... if that doesn't work, sorry
[08:58] <dli> rixxon, then, I can not help
[08:59] <Administrator_> !linux
[08:59] <ubotu> methinks linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[08:59] <Administrator_> !cedega
[08:59] <ubotu> Administrator_: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:00] <rixxon> dli: what do you mean if livecd sees hdd?
[09:00] <Trashcan> cedega is TERRIBLE :(
[09:00] <crimsun> mr_hus: yep, it's probably because ntpd isn't running when the package upgrade occurs
[09:00] <rixxon> dli: i go to 'computer' in file browser, it lists my hard drive and knows its size; but i can't access it (which might be cause it is ntfs)
[09:00] <Administrator_> !mandriva
[09:00] <ubotu> Administrator_: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:00] <rixxon> dli: i get unable to mount
[09:00] <crimsun> mr_hus: you'll need to work around it by editing /etc/init.d/ntp-server
[09:01] <Administrator_> !linux games
[09:01] <ubotu> Administrator_: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:01] <tritium> Administrator_: you can do that in a query with ubotu
[09:02] <Madpilot> Administrator_, /msg ubotu list
[09:02] <crimsun> mr_hus: still with me?
[09:02] <tmroland> does anyone know of a smaller irc network wich could use a new server? i wanna link
[09:02] <tmroland> pls
[09:02] <Administrator_> what do you mean cedega's terrible?
[09:02] <crimsun> that's definitely off-topic, tmroland
[09:02] <mr_hus> crimsun: yeah i just opened the file
[09:02] <tmroland> no.. i run a ircd on ubuntu
[09:02] <crimsun> mr_hus: ok, scroll down to the stop target
[09:02] <Schalken> !ubuntu
[09:02] <ubotu> I guess ubuntu is a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[09:03] <Abo> !linux games
[09:03] <ubotu> Abo: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:03] <Schalken> hehehe
[09:03] <rixxon> how annoying, irssi uses alt+X combination and so does the ubuntu terminal :p
[09:03] <crimsun> mr_hus: line 24 or thereabouts depending on $COLUMNS
[09:03] <Administrator_> how can cedega be terrible?
[09:03] <Schalken> !gnome
[09:03] <FuNkY14> hi guys
[09:03] <crimsun> mr_hus: change "start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile /var/run/ntpd.pid"  to  "start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile /var/run/ntpd.pid ||true"
[09:03] <FuNkY14> listen does any1 perhaps know Delphi a bit?
[09:04] <Administrator_> is ubuntu better or mandriva?
[09:04] <crimsun> mr_hus: save it, then apt-get -f install
[09:04] <F0LL0W3R> anyone know how to install Dev-c++4.9.9.2 on ubuntu ?
[09:04] <roryy> list ##delphi
[09:04] <dli> Administrator_, mandriva sucks because of rpm
[09:04] <hastesaver> Administrator_, ubuntu. Easily.
[09:04] <roryy> list ##delphi
[09:04] <skon> join #debian
[09:04] <mr_hus> crimsun: so i just add the || true part at the end?
[09:04] <FuNkY14> ok thx
[09:04] <skon> sorry
[09:04] <crimsun> mr_hus: yes
[09:04] <cciRRus> When i run "dpkg -l" most entries are preceded with "ii" while some are preceded with "rc". What do they mean?
[09:04] <crimsun> let's leave the distro wars outside, 'k?
[09:05] <hastesaver> Administrator_, I'm never going back to something that doesn't have apt-get
[09:05] <Administrator_> ok
[09:05] <hastesaver> crimsun, I keep going offtopic today, sorry
[09:05] <Trashcan> agreed hastesaver
[09:05] <Madpilot> hastesaver, #ubuntu-offtopic is nice and quiet right now :)
[09:06] <Schalken> how can i find out what package provides the "xf86vmode.h" header file?
[09:06] <DBO> which means Im bored and looking for someone to talk to there! =)
[09:06] <Administrator_> is apt-get better or mandriva kiosk
[09:06] <dli> how come? so many big brothers online today
[09:06] <hastesaver> Administrator_, ask on #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:06] <cciRRus> When i run "dpkg -l" most entries are preceded with "ii" while some are preceded with "rc". What do they mean?
[09:06] <tritium> cciRRus: installed
[09:06] <dli> Schalken, you can use apt-file or search online at packages.ubuntu.com
[09:07] <cciRRus> thanks, what about "rc"
[09:07] <Schalken> dli, can it be done in synaptic?
[09:07] <mr_hus> crimsun: urm okay seems like this worked now.... but what the hell did we just do? just force it not to bitch??
[09:07] <tritium> cciRRus: removed, with config files still installed
[09:07] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: i don't see any linux versions at http://www.bloodshed.net/download.html ?  There are alternative C/C++ ides for Linux.  I think anjuta is one; I use emacs myself.
[09:07] <cciRRus> ooooooh
[09:07] <cciRRus> thanks again!
[09:07] <tritium> cciRRus: (they were not purged)
[09:07] <crimsun> mr_hus: essentially.
[09:07] <cciRRus> so how should i clean them off
[09:07] <cciRRus> apt-get purge?
[09:07] <tritium> cciRRus: yes
[09:07] <cciRRus> cool :)
[09:08] <tritium> cciRRus: apt-get remove --purge, actually
 aha but in sourceforge there a source code fir linux but i cant even how to compile it
[09:08] <cciRRus> hahah yes, i was about to ask. :S
[09:08] <rixxon> a guy in the uk with 10 mbit is downloading 6.06 in 11kb/s, any faster server he could use?
[09:08] <crimsun> rixxon: tell him to use se.archive
[09:08] <rixxon> i gave him uk.release
[09:09] <cciRRus> i can't purge coz apt-get can't find the file
[09:09] <cciRRus> i mean cant find the package
[09:09] <Surfnkid> back
[09:09] <cciRRus> says not installed
[09:09] <Surfnkid> dam what a race!
[09:09] <Surfnkid> got in that Kart and ripped the track
[09:09] <tritium> cciRRus: I've not seen a package named "coz"
[09:09] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: url ?
[09:10] <cciRRus> i rephrase: i can't purge because apt-get can't find the original package which has config files left over
 u mean the ur for downloading the Source code ?
[09:10] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: well, just the sf.net project page
[09:10] <tritium> cciRRus: which package?
[09:10] <cciRRus> i removed festival
[09:11] <cciRRus> "rc  festival"   "rc  gok"  "rc  libgnome-speech3"
[09:11] <Schalken> dli: thanks for your help! i found the file
[09:11] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: is there a reason to use dev-c++ ? you're used to it from windows?
[09:11] <dli> cciRRus, reinstall again, and purge
[09:11] <cciRRus> yikes! is there a more elegant solution?
[09:11] <dli> Schalken, apt-file is good, learn to use
[09:11] <rixxon> is it possible to get the windows key to do things in ubuntu/linux?
[09:11] <F0LL0W3R> roryy sorry not yet but it seems got Editor :-)
[09:11] <rixxon> im darn used to flag+d flag+r etc
[09:12] <F0LL0W3R> moment to give ya the url
[09:12] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: there are *loads* of editors available in the repos.  Have you tried anjuta? It will be much easier to install, and is (i believe) a functional IDE
[09:12] <F0LL0W3R> http://sourceforge.net/projects/dev-cpp <roryy>
 nope didnt try yet but i will if i fail for Dev-C would use emacs or anjuta
[09:14] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: what makes you think this will compile on Linux?  The description says 'Dev-C++ is an full-featured Integrated Development Environment (IDE) for Win32' ?
[09:14] <blank> what's the end of file character for x86 processors
[09:14] <F0LL0W3R> but they says all operating sys be supported
[09:14] <blank> intel i386
[09:14] <blank> CTRL+D doesn't seem to be it
[09:14] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: you mean on the download link?
[09:14] <F0LL0W3R> yea
[09:15] <cciRRus> Pls take a look here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14757     how should i remove the duplicated, unused kernels after I had updated them?
[09:15] <F0LL0W3R> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=10639 rorry
[09:15] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: hrm, i'm inclined to disbelieve that.  As I understand, the whole point of dev-cpp is to make gcc easy to use on MS Windows.
[09:15] <Administrator_> is pentium 4 better or intel core?
[09:16] <F0LL0W3R> roryy yea ur right but For Linuxers Seems So hard :-)
[09:16] <k00zk0> okay
[09:16] <k00zk0> guys
[09:16] <k00zk0> im configging a kernel
[09:17] <Administrator_> is pentium 4 better or intel core?
[09:17] <Abo> does anyone know if there is a file indexer for ubuntu (like google desktop on windows)
[09:17] <cciRRus> slocate? :)
[09:17] <Administrator_> beagle
[09:17] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: try anjuta or kdevelop (any other easy-to-use ide recommendations?)
[09:17] <k00zk0> its asking me netfilter xtables support (req. for ip_tables) [n/m/y/?] 
[09:17] <k00zk0> i know what n and y are
[09:17] <k00zk0> whats m ?
 seems that what i will do :-)
 anyway thnx alot for helping
[09:18] <tritium> Abo: try beagle
[09:18] <Abo> ok
[09:18] <k00zk0> guys
[09:18] <k00zk0> does anyone know what the m option does
[09:19] <roryy> in kernel config?
[09:19] <k00zk0> if its askign a question in the kernel config, and it says y/n/m
[09:19] <k00zk0> yeah
[09:19] <roryy> means the item is a module
[09:19] <cciRRus> how do i remove a specific version of a package installed? i have 2 kernels installed and I wish to remove the older one.
[09:19] <k00zk0> i typed make oldconfig and its doing most of it for me but it stals on some questions
[09:20] <k00zk0> one has 3 choices
[09:20] <k00zk0> module?
[09:20] <k00zk0> as in, if i choose m, it will make it a module
[09:20] <roryy> yes, a dynamically loadable kernel module
[09:20] <k00zk0> so i can safely choose m if im not sure about wether i need something or not
[09:21] <Administrator_> does runescape work on linux?
[09:21] <roryy> k00zk0: i believe the wiki has a kernel-compile howto -- have you read it?
[09:21] <k00zk0> im reading another guide
[09:21] <k00zk0> i just needed to patch up the hostap driver
[09:21] <k00zk0> seems easy
[09:21] <k00zk0> but if im not sure about needing something i can choose m right
[09:21] <k00zk0> ?
[09:22] <k00zk0> and it will auto load it if needeD?
[09:22] <k00zk0> roryy!!
[09:22] <BHSPitLappy> Administrator_: doesn't it use Shockwave?
[09:22] <roryy> well, i don't know about autoload.  it will be available for loading
[09:22] <k00zk0> Administrator_ yes runescape is just a flash game
[09:23] <k00zk0> it will work with firefox on linux
[09:23] <k00zk0> okay roryy thanks ^_^
[09:23] <Administrator_> it uses java
[09:23] <BHSPitLappy> Administrator_: then I don't see why it shouldn't run.
[09:24] <cciRRus> how do i remove a specific version of a package installed? i have 2 kernels installed and I wish to remove the older one.
[09:24] <BHSPitLappy> own 11-year-olds to your heart's content...
[09:24] <BHSPitLappy> jk
[09:24] <F0LL0W3R> is a kdevelop has a Self-own installation Source ?
[09:24] <hastesaver> F0LL0W3R, do you use KDE?
[09:24] <tritium> cciRRus: just like you'd remove any other package
[09:24] <F0LL0W3R> nope Gnome
[09:25] <cciRRus> so apt-get would automagically remove the older one?
[09:25] <hastesaver> F0LL0W3R, try anjuta then
[09:25] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: sorry, it's kdevelop3
[09:26] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: it's in the repos
[09:26] <F0LL0W3R> hastesaver thats what am doin now
[09:26] <tritium> cciRRus: you'd specify the package name specifically
[09:26] <F0LL0W3R> roryy ah thx
[09:26] <cciRRus> alright, thanks once again! I'm pretty scared when i'm removing KERNEL packages. :)
[09:26] <rixxon> maybe i've missunderstood the rules, but why does the dealer 'give up' on 17? (blackjack)
[09:27] <tritium> cciRRus: dpkg -l | grep linux-image, and remove the _specific_ version you don't want anymore
[09:27] <rixxon> is this a bug or did i missunderstand the rules
[09:27] <Surfnkid> hell i aint touchin this ubuntu
[09:27] <Surfnkid> just glad it works
[09:27] <cciRRus> i did this:   apt-get remove --purge linux-386
[09:27] <cciRRus> did i just screw up?
[09:27] <tritium> cciRRus: yes
[09:27] <k00zk0> uh oh.
[09:27] <tritium> cciRRus: unless you have linux-686, let's say
[09:27] <hastesaver> cciRRus, why do you want to remove the old one, BTW?
[09:28] <cciRRus> hastesaver pls refer here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14757
[09:28] <tritium> cciRRus: I told you to remove the _specific_ kernel version you didn't want anymore
[09:28] <tritium> (see above))
[09:28] <cciRRus> okok
[09:28] <cciRRus> so i should apt-get the linux-386 back?
[09:28] <tritium> cciRRus: what processor do you have?
[09:28] <cciRRus> P3
[09:29] <cciRRus> i586 to be preice
[09:29] <cciRRus> precise
[09:29] <tritium> cciRRus: which kernel would you like to run?
[09:29] <uscg_corey> god why wont xtray show an icon
[09:29] <uscg_corey> in panel
[09:29] <uscg_corey> :(
[09:29] <cciRRus> im already booted into 2.6.15.22  and i do not wish to keep 2.6.15.20
[09:30] <zouyuhan> :-(
[09:30] <tritium> cciRRus: would you prefer linux-686 to linux-386?
[09:30] <cciRRus> nope
[09:30] <cciRRus> i doubt P3 is based on the i686 arch
[09:30] <tritium> cciRRus: what you _should have done was to remove the linux-image with that version, then
[09:30] <Abo> anyone knows how to install klocate, (it's meant to be a GUI for slocate), I tried "sudo apt-get install klocate" it didn't find anything, I have universe in my source.list
[09:30] <Seq> cciRRus: pentium-pro and up are 686
[09:30] <tritium> cciRRus: apt-cache show linux-686.  You'll see that you can use it.
[09:31] <cciRRus> oooops!
[09:31] <Sturek> morning....I got a problem with video playback on MPlayer and Totem, can't change the size of the video, works with GXine, so it's probably the gstreamer thingy, can anyone help me ?
[09:31] <tritium> cciRRus: I'd suggest you give linux-686 a try, and then you can remove all the -386 kernel images you want
[09:31] <cciRRus> yes i'd love to use linux-686. so should i remove linux-386 and then install linux-686, OR is there a shorter way?
[09:31] <hastesaver> cciRRus, what's the problem with having all of them installed? I'm curious...
[09:31] <cciRRus> hastesaver, im hard up on space
[09:31] <freakabcd> hi all
[09:31] <dli> Sturek, can you try with, " mplayer -vo xv " ?
[09:32] <cciRRus> i have a 2.0GB partition for ubuntu ONLY
[09:32] <Surfnkid> what command with ls can i use to pause a list
[09:32] <hastesaver> Sturek, what are you doing to change the size?
[09:32] <cciRRus> Surfnkid: pipe to less?
[09:32] <dli> Surfnkid, ls|less
[09:32] <Surfnkid> thanks
[09:32] <hastesaver> Surfnkid, pipe it through a program that shows text page by page (a "pager"), such as less
[09:32] <Surfnkid> which program
[09:33] <cciRRus> >>>>   ls | less
[09:33] <Sturek> just dragging the window borders...
[09:33] <si9o> ls <filename> | less
[09:33] <Administrator_> can you use windows screensavers with linux?
[09:34] <cciRRus> no
[09:34] <Sturek> the window gets bigger, but the actual video stays the same size, works fine with GXine..
[09:34] <tritium> cciRRus: you're all set on what to do now?
[09:34] <cciRRus> yep
[09:34] <tritium> ok
[09:34] <cciRRus> 1. install linux-686; 2. remove linux-386 and rest
[09:34] <cciRRus> thanks :)
[09:35] <Administrator_> can you do it with wine?
[09:35] <cciRRus> nope
[09:35] <si9o> ROFL
[09:35] <srhalfwaythere> is there a way to get the DCC Manager working on linux?
[09:35] <tritium> srhalfwaythere: not sure what that is
[09:35] <ubuntu_> Please anyone help me to install grub on my multiboot system , i do this 3 times but w/o succes
[09:35] <Abo> anyone knows where ecplise saves the name of the projects to open?
[09:36] <Sturek> dli: worked nicely thank you very much :D
[09:36] <srhalfwaythere> tritium: it is so i can search for a file online and download it fast
[09:36] <cciRRus> how do i make vncserver start on default? no such scripts seem to be inside /etc/init.d
[09:36] <tritium> srhalfwaythere: oh, okay
[09:36] <srhalfwaythere> tritium: irc file transfer manager from the browser
[09:36] <srhalfwaythere> from ircspy
[09:36] <power1> Hey all, I was just wondering is there a difference between using the built in alsa driver for an audio device when I compile the kernel vs installing the alsa drivers and not having it compiled into the kernel?
[09:37] <dli> Sturek, you can configure xv vo as the default
[09:37] <power1> If I am using intel HD Audio and I can hear sound but PCM mixer control has no effect and the only thing that controls volume is the front speaker slider, can I assume its working and it just a mixer problem, this is annoying for me as apps like xmms cant control the volume.....and quake 3 has no sound at all.?
[09:38] <Sturek> dli: I'll do that, I don't really get why xv vo helped, but hey, that's why we noobs need people like you ;)
[09:39] <Sturek> dli: ha now I got it, using X11/Xv as video ouput driver :D
[09:39] <dorel__> in ubuntu's sources, whats the meaning of 'restricted', 'multiverse' and 'universe'?
[09:39] <xanavim> I've just upgraded to dapper and fluxbox (rev. 4400) doesn't sleep.  is there a command or way to make it sleep?
[09:39] <cciRRus> dorel__, check out the wiki
[09:39] <xanavim> gnome sleeps ok though
[09:39] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell dorel__ about repos
[09:40] <fm> hi
[09:40] <fm> how do I add/remove file associations in nautilus?
[09:41] <Abo> fm
[09:41] <Abo> fm rightclic choose properties, on the open with tab, change to the application u like
[09:42] <Abo> fm rightclick on the file ...;)
[09:42] <dorel__> cciRRus: the wiki explains how to add them, i want to understand the meaning of multiverse, universe and restricted. whats the purpose of each?
[09:42] <fm> lol thx I might have figured it out :)
[09:42] <tritium> !components
[09:42] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[09:43] <tritium> dorel__: ^^
[09:43] <Diiba> !components
[09:43] <Diiba> Hi.
[09:44] <uscg_corey> ugh
[09:44] <tritium> and hello to yo utoo
[09:44] <tritium> you too, even
[09:45] <Mobadass> hi
[09:45] <fm> while I'm here : Everytime I open a .odt by doubleclicking on it while openoffice is already open openoffice complains that my file does NOT exist.. so I must go through the menus to open it.. any idea?
[09:45] <Mobadass> :( i need some help
[09:45] <Mobadass>  internet not working on my ubuntu image i downloaded from the site (vmware)
[09:45] <axion`> how do i auth on this server?
[09:45] <Mobadass> bridged and NAT dont work
[09:46] <Madpilot> axion`, /msg nickserv help
[09:46] <dorel__> great that links was helpful
[09:46] <dorel__> thanks
[09:47] <axion`> i need to know how to edit xorg.conf
[09:47] <axion`> from recovery mode
[09:48] <cilkay> Anyone have recommendations for qmail packages or do you just install it from source?
[09:48] <tritium> axion`: use your editor to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:48] <cilkay> e.g. qmailrocks
[09:49] <Abo> anyone knows where eclipse saves the workspace informations?
[09:49] <Ademan> i'm getting only audio with totem when i have the gstreamer ffmpeg plugin installed... (not even sound before that) I have the x output enabled as well
[09:49] <Ademan> Abo: is ecplipse any good? I was considering using it over Anjuta (for c/c++ dev)
[09:49] <Abo> Ademan, I can recommend it for java, no idea about c/c++
[09:50] <cilkay> Ademan: slow as hell but tons of plug-ins.
[09:50] <duff> hi
[09:50] <Ademan> eh... slow?... maybe not then.... define slow, whats ur system specs?
[09:50] <cilkay> Ademan: KDevelop is pretty sweet for C++ development.
[09:50] <Abo> cilkay, Ademan, agree... eclipse much slower than Anjuta
[09:50] <cilkay> Ademan: P4 2GHz
[09:50] <Ademan> hehe i'm using gnome
[09:51] <cilkay> Then you deserve to use the slowest thing:)
[09:51] <tritium> make the extra effor to spell "your".  It's only 2 extra letters...
[09:51] <Ademan> anjuta it is i guess
[09:51] <duff> what do you using about?
[09:52] <Abo> clikay, how exactly can I install kdevelop? (apt-get install kdevelop says it couldnt' find the package, and I have all universe enabled)
[09:52] <Madpilot> !info kdevelop
[09:52] <Abo> !info kdevelop
[09:52] <joedj> Abo: apt-get install kdevelop3
[09:52] <Abo> ok
[09:52] <B1zz> anybody running the XFCE desktop?
[09:52] <cilkay> You don't need to run KDE to run KDE apps.
[09:53] <Abo> joedj, cheers
[09:53] <cilkay> I run GTK apps in KDE, like what I'm using now, XChat.
[09:53] <Ademan> cilkay: you just need the KDE libs then?
[09:53] <cilkay> One of the few GTK apps that I love.
[09:53] <srhalfwaythere> xchat is the way to go
[09:53] <cilkay> yes
[09:53] <cilkay> Ademan: it will just drag in dependencies.
[09:54] <Ademan> cilkay: any disadvantages to doing it that way (as opposed to KDE in a KDE environment) other than you dont like gnome lol
[09:54] <cilkay> Ademan: no, not really.
[09:54] <srhalfwaythere> Blzz: no, just the gnome desktop here
[09:54] <B1zz> oh
[09:54] <cilkay> Ademan: for you... other than you might get addicted to KDE :)
[09:54] <squiggly> ughhhh
[09:54] <squiggly> i'm so hungry for ubuntu
[09:54] <Ademan> lol
[09:55] <squiggly> its impossible to develop in a windows enviroment with IDLE
[09:55] <Madpilot> B1zz, you could try #xubuntu - Xubuntu is XFCE+Ubuntu
[09:55] <squiggly> >_>
[09:55] <B1zz> ok thanks mad
[09:55] <Ademan> i really dont understand why people would prefer KDE over GNOME (i honestly havent used KDE, so its not like a "i hate KDE" its like "whats so great?")
[09:55] <srhalfwaythere> Blzz: i tired xubuntu, but it didnt seem to have the features i like in ubuntu
[09:55] <axion`> anyone available to be pm'd regarding a noob problem? it's probably an easy fix
[09:55] <cilkay> Ademan: no, seriously. It is a sweet IDE.
[09:55] <srhalfwaythere> tried*
[09:55] <Madpilot> axion`, your best bet is to just ask in-channel, not in PM
[09:55] <B1zz> yeah I like it its just that its killing me it has no "recycle bin" feature
[09:56] <B1zz> just delet forever
[09:56] <cilkay> Ademan: KParts.. for one thing. I develop PyQt apps and being able to embed bits of KDE in my apps just rocks.
[09:56] <srhalfwaythere> Blzz: Hmm, i never noticed that. The xubuntu channel would probably be more help
[09:56] <B1zz> yeah i posted question :)
[09:56] <roryy> kdevelop3
[09:56] <roryy> aargh. super-lagged!
[09:56] <B1zz> lets see if they reply
[09:57] <jonathan_> Hey guys, is there a vpn software that works well with Ubuntu
[09:57] <Ademan> roryy: what do you mean?
[09:57] <cilkay> Ademan: if you were around when OpenDoc, Taligent and all that was being developed, you'll recognize it as Bento.
[09:57] <jonathan_> it must involve RSA support
[09:57] <squiggly> anyone know of a python IDE for ubuntu?
[09:57] <cilkay> jonathaN: OpenS/WAN
[09:57] <squiggly> rsa is broken
[09:57] <jonathan_> just lookig for the client vpn version
[09:57] <squiggly> why would you use it
[09:57] <cilkay> squiggly: eric3
[09:57] <squiggly> is it any good? have you used it?
[09:58] <cilkay> jonathan_: that's an artificial distinction. OpenS/WAN can be either or both.
[09:58] <squiggly> haha
[09:58] <squiggly> it looks sweet from the screenshots
[09:58] <cilkay> squiggly: yes, I use it for PyQt development.
[09:59] <srhalfwaythere> squiggly: it has lots of features, not just a simple one
[09:59] <cilkay> squiggly: svn integration. Integrated with Qt Designer. Bicyle repairman for refactoring. Integrated with pdb.
[09:59] <srhalfwaythere> ^^^ like those
[09:59] <squiggly> it looks bloated
[10:00] <cilkay> that's nonsense
[10:00] <cilkay> but... suit yourself and use vi then
[10:00] <cilkay> I've tried Boa constructor.
[10:00] <cilkay> Really weird UI.
[10:01] <cilkay> Stani's(?) editor as well.
[10:01] <jonathan_> hmm...installed openswan.....
[10:01] <jonathan_> can't seem to find it now
[10:01] <cilkay> locate
[10:01] <captainredbeard> how can I set a certain icon as the default for a certain file type?
[10:01] <cilkay> dpkg -l
[10:01] <jonathan_> openswan: command not found
[10:01] <cilkay> doh
[10:02] <cciRRus> any ideas how do I load modules upon startup?
[10:02] <Antipodean> hey all
[10:02] <Antipodean> :)
[10:03] <tritium> cciRRus: yes, add them to /etc/modules
[10:03] <cciRRus> okok
[10:03] <jonathan_> cciRRus, use the services icon from the System menu
[10:03] <tritium> jonathan_: not for modules, no
[10:03] <cciRRus> yep! :)
[10:03] <Antipodean> I don't suppose anybody here cld take a look at this  http://pastebin.com/742473 (pasted from my terminal) and tell me what I need to do to get that game installed?
[10:04] <Antipodean> *bangs head on wall in frustration*
[10:04] <Abo> joedj, this kdevelop3 looks real cool, I'll have to play around with it for a while
[10:04] <cilkay> repeat
[10:04] <jonathan_> ahhh soz...thought u were just talking about appz...whoops...
[10:04] <liviudm> Antipodean: run sudo apt-get update then try to install it again
[10:04] <cilkay> Abo: wait until you learn about creating your own custom widgets
[10:05] <Antipodean> cheers
[10:06] <cilkay> Anyway... I came here to ask about qmail and it seems there are no ISP/sysadmin types around.
[10:06] <cilkay> I'll check tomorrow.
[10:06] <cilkay> Good night all.
[10:06] <Antipodean> liviudm: i did - it still gives the same error msg dammit
[10:07] <liviudm> Antipodean: maybe your mirror is still not synced
[10:07] <liviudm> Antipodean: use another mirror or wait until yours get synced
[10:07] <Antipodean> liviudm: how do I change mirrors, do u know?
[10:08] <Antipodean> of course u know... but u get what i mean
[10:08] <liviudm> Antipodean: edit /etc/apt/sources list or use http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic to generate a new sources.list and paste the result in yours
[10:09] <Antipodean> thanks mate, much appreciated
[10:09] <hastesaver> Antipodean, but which repo is that flobyopuyo package from, anyway? I don't think it's in one of the "standard" Ubuntu repos...
[10:09] <hastesaver> Antipodean, flobopuyo
[10:09] <liviudm> Antipodean: flobopuyo is not in repos
[10:10] <Flannel> yes it is.
[10:10] <Flannel> it's in universe.
[10:10] <F0LL0W3R> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14758   what missing file i have or what i need to complete Compiling
[10:10] <hastesaver> liviudm, it's in univsere
[10:10] <hastesaver> Antipodean, I think your problem is something else -- it has nothing to do with that particular game, just that one of your repos is inaccessible
[10:10] <liviudm> hastesaver: my bad. I misspelled a char when I did an apt-cache search
[10:10] <tritium> F0LL0W3R: without looking, I'd suggest you first install build-essential if you haven't already
[10:11] <dli> any liveusb howto ?
[10:11] <F0LL0W3R> tritium loll So u would better have alook
[10:11] <liviudm> Antipodean: use the source-o-matic to generate a list with the universe and eventually multiverse repo and paste it in your sources.list. After this run sudo apt-get update
[10:12] <Antipodean> will do mate - thanks 4 ur help
[10:12] <liviudm> Antipodean: and BTW, it's flobopuyo NOT flobyopuyo
[10:12] <Antipodean> hah! now i feel stupid!
[10:12] <liviudm> Antipodean: ;)
[10:13] <Antipodean> its still telling me to get update etc... so I'll follow ur earlier advice as well
[10:13] <Antipodean> cheers
[10:15] <almenfors> hum..is it normal that after reboot you loose one mount?
[10:15] <_mason> How can i assign a command to a key ? i didnt see a 'create new shortcut' button anywhere?
[10:15] <liviudm> _mason: in console or in GNOME?
[10:16] <_mason> GNOME
[10:16] <_mason> Or, well both
[10:17] <liviudm> _mason: I don't have any idea how to do that in GNOME, but in console you can use alias
[10:17] <Antipodean> liviudm: ummm, how do I turn off "read only" on my sources list?
[10:17] <_mason> alias will bind a command to a string? correct?
[10:17] <liviudm> Antipodean: use sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:17] <uscg_corey> anyone use network-manager ?
[10:17] <iosif> Hola
[10:17] <liviudm> _mason: yes
[10:18] <uscg_corey> _mason, system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[10:18] <hastesaver> Antipodean, or sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list if you haven't used vi before :)
[10:19] <_mason> i just installed 3ddesktop viewer ( 3d desktop changer ) was going to bind the 'zoom out' function to a key.. but i couldnt find a way to add a keyboard shortcut to  system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[10:19] <Ademan> in KDevelop, it allows you to specify a template for your header files, obviously there have to be macros for filename, and toupper and such
[10:21] <Antipodean> hastesaver: ah thats much better
[10:22] <dli> any howto to make a liveUSB from a liveCD?
[10:23] <F0LL0W3R> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14758
[10:25] <granden> Hi, I get this when trying to start mysql it starts but still get the error : http://pastebin.com/742486
[10:25] <granden> Any ideas anyone?
[10:25] <almenfors> guys i need help i lost one hd and cant start disk manager for some reson =(
[10:28] <uscg_corey> anyone else using networkmanagerhave the icon have a lot of freespace to left and right of panel icon?
[10:28] <Abo> is there a tool like filemon on linux?
[10:29] <hastesaver> Abo, what does filemon do?
[10:29] <duff> I 'd like to know
[10:30] <hangfire> anyone know if breezy has sun's java compiler?
[10:30] <Abo> (hastesaver, filemon is a tool that monitors all files activities in windows -open create read write- in real time) very handy when you need to figure out what does a program use as file at a certain command
[10:31] <comingwoo> hello
[10:31] <Abo> hangfire, yes
[10:31] <Abo> hangfire check the restricted formats there is a help on installing sun's java
[10:31] <duff> physical fitness and philip
[10:35] <hastesaver> Abo, there's something called dnotify, but I'm not sure how useful it is
[10:36] <hyphenated> Abo: there'll be heaps of them, all of varying degrees of quality
[10:36] <hyphenated> Abo: apt-cache search monitor | grep file
[10:36] <hastesaver> Abo, there's also FAM -- File Alteration Monitor -- but again, it does something else too
[10:36] <duff> c
[10:38] <Abo> hastesaver, I did sudo apt-get install fam and it's removing everything on my disk
[10:38] <hyphenated> Abo: usually there are more process-specific tools to work out what's going wrong, since trying to monitor the entire system (for multi-user systems) is relatively pointless
[10:38] <hastesaver> Abo, huh? how's that?
[10:43] <Abo> hyphenated, I would like to know what a process is opening, how can this be done, you're right I agree that monitoring the whole system is pointless as everything is file in linux/unix
[10:44] <crimsun> Abo: ptrace it.
[10:44] <M> hi guys i was wondering if anyone could help me setup samba
[10:45] <top222> A flame-prone question... msg me your thoughts... if you have used both Ubuntu and Gentoo, what is your opinion of each?
[10:45] <Abo> crimsun, is ptrace a command?
[10:46] <Abo> crimsun, I didnt' find it, apt-get install ptrace didn't find it neither
[10:46] <duff> how do i become a root user?
[10:47] <timfrost> !root
[10:47] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:48] <crimsun> Abo: read http://linuxgazette.net/issue81/sandeep.html
[10:48] <MadMerC> hi ppl i was wondering if anyone could tell me what to add to the samba config file to share a harddrive ???
[10:48] <Abo> crimsun, thank you
[10:49] <dli> crimsun, do you know a how to make an ubuntu liveUSB?
[10:50] <CharlesE> I just played tuxracer on dapper i tried linux and used it as my desktop for about 6months a year or so ago. I never got xgl working quite right Thanks to dapper I played tuxracer at 145fps average with a min of 130 and max of 200 I am using a 4200 amd 64 dual core with x800pro  My question is just this, Is that a good frame rate the reason i ask is the game is crap and does anyone have any ideas for ways to test out the 3d I am thinking
[10:50] <CharlesE> of getting the doom3 demo does anyone know anything thats good to test it on (something in repositarys)
[10:50] <hyphenated> CharlesE: neverball ;-)
[10:51] <crimsun> dli: not off the top of my head, no
[10:51] <Anusien> Is there a good guide to configuring wifi?
[10:51] <hastesaver> !wifi
[10:51] <uscg_corey> yes
[10:51] <ubotu> I heard wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:51] <uscg_corey> aw you beat me to it
[10:52] <dli> crimsun, okay, I can make mine
[10:52] <CharlesE> hydroksyde, thanks ill get that as soon as im finished this current update But can you tell me the thing about the framerate?? Tux isnt that resource hungry I am just wondering if my fps will go to zero when i try something like say a doom 3 demo
[10:55] <Ademan> in KDevelop, are there macros for the header file template definition?
[10:56] <uscg_corey> !divx
[10:56] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:56] <jesper_> hall
[10:56] <jesper_> mitt msn funkar inte
[10:57] <hastesaver> jesper_, what language?
[10:58] <amee2k> hi all
[10:58] <slaine> does anyone know anything about ubuntucenter?
[10:59] <uscg_corey> what package is needed for divx support?
[11:00] <slaine> im having a problem with the installation :(
[11:00] <penguin-1> uscg_corey,  check out mplayer
[11:00] <amee2k> i'm installing ubuntu on AMD64. While Starting up the partitioner progress meter is stuck at 70% for about two minutes now, and the status line shows "detecting file systems". is that normal?
[11:00] <penguin-1> the website has almost all the codecs you will need
[11:00] <slaine> amee2k you using the 5.10 install CD?
[11:00] <penguin-1> !mplayer
[11:00] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:00] <hastesaver> !tell uscg_corey about restricted
[11:01] <amee2k> slaine: yes. DVD for amd64 downloaded yesterday
[11:01] <rem> what can you do when you rmmod or lsusb and it hangs (and you cant kill the PID ..) ??
[11:01] <rem> is reboot the only way .. ?
[11:01] <Jude> rem: kill -TERM?
[11:02] <rem> what will that do kill the terminal window ?
[11:02] <Abo> anyone tried picassa on linux?
[11:02] <slaine> is the hard drive clean?
[11:02] <slaine> no partitions etc
[11:02] <gsuveg> Abo: me
[11:02] <Abo> gsuveg, is it any good?
[11:02] <Jude> rem: No, -TERM = terminate.
[11:02] <gsuveg> dapper support is here ?
[11:02] <gsuveg> Abo: not bad.
[11:02] <rem> whats the syntax ? kill -TERM pid ?
[11:03] <hyphenated> gsuveg: not till next week. #ubuntu+1
[11:03] <hyphenated> rem: yeah
[11:03] <rem> k ty
[11:03] <gsuveg> Abo: like the f-spot
[11:03] <Abo> gsuveg, I found Gwenview yesterday, I pretty much liked it,
[11:03] <rem> doesnt help :(
[11:03] <slaine> amee2k: is the target drive clean?
[11:03] <rem> same result as kill -9 ..
[11:04] <rem> any other idea ?
[11:04] <amee2k> slaine: the partition layout is: hda1: gentoo on ext3, hda2 empty for ubuntu, hda3 swap, hda4 bootloader minipartition, hdb1 data on ext2, sda1 and sdb2 data on NTFS, sdc1 data on ext2, sdc2 data on vfat
[11:04] <gsuveg> Abo: gwenview is other level as picasa ;)
[11:04] <amee2k> no drives have physical faults i know of
[11:04] <rem> i mean it doesnt kill it ..
[11:04] <Anusien> Hrm, all the docs I can find says that Ubuntu contains the necessary information for Broadcom drivers, and I know for a fact Linux is seeing the driver, but it's not configuring it
[11:05] <slaine> amee2k: hmm, yea i think i was trying to dual boot on my laptop and couldnt, there is alot about this problem on the forums
[11:05] <hyphenated> rem: is it already dead?
[11:06] <dli> slaine, what's the error?
[11:06] <hyphenated> Anusien: the Broadcom BCM4401 works fine on my laptop in ubuntu
[11:06] <Nezen23> hi
[11:06] <amee2k> slaine: did they post any solutions?
[11:06] <Nezen23> can anyone helpe me with skydome problems in compiz?
[11:06] <gsuveg> Abo: picasa search all the image on your disk
[11:06] <timfrost> rem, if 'kill -9 ' fails, then reboot/power off is the only option, because the process is stuck in a kernel system call that can't be interrupted, and is not returning.
[11:07] <hyphenated> timfrost: or it's already dead and the parent process hasn't cleaned it up ye
[11:07] <Anusien> hyphenated: is there somewhere I can figure out how to configure it?  ifconfig/iwconfig only list sit0, lo and eth0
[11:07] <timfrost> hyphenated, that shows as a zombie
[11:07] <hyphenated> Anusien: eth0 is my broadcom ethernet
[11:07] <amee2k> !forum
[11:07] <ubotu> forum is, like, the ubuntu web forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[11:08] <hyphenated> timfrost: yes, has he confirmed it's not a zombie yet?
[11:08] <Anusien> hyphenated: yeah eth0 works out of the box, but not wifi
[11:08] <hyphenated> Anusien: and the WifiHowto was no help?
[11:08] <rixxon> i think im perverted, im in love with an os
[11:08] <hyphenated> rixxon: it's only perverted if you act on that love ;-)
[11:09] <Anusien> hyphenated: not so far.  I'm trying to get through it
[11:09] <Abo> gsuveg, yeah I used picasa under windows, but I used to prefer acdsee
[11:09] <rixxon> hyphenated: exactly my point..! :$
[11:09] <gsuveg> Abo: your choose
[11:09] <hyphenated> rixxon: I don't want to know what you get up to with badgers and drakes
[11:10] <Abo> gsuveg, ;-)
[11:10] <Mortal`> Good morning all. In the bootloader, I saw that the "kernel" command was run with a "quiet"-parameter. I removed it because I couldn't help myself. I suppose it's only related to debug-messages?
[11:10] <rixxon> :))
[11:10] <Anusien> hyphenated: because it says "get it set up, and if it isn't one of these three chipsets, use ndiswrapper"
[11:10] <timfrost> hyphenated, rem hasn't said so, but the context indicates that the commands were run in a terminal window, and the bash shell will clean up a child that has exitted, so won't leave zombies
[11:10] <rixxon> im on a school laptop, they let us install linuces if we keep windows aswell - can i do this via the ubuntu installer?
[11:11] <hyphenated> Anusien: yeah, those are pretty much the only options. I'm glad mine is an Intel Pro Wireless card
[11:11] <penguin-1> rixxon,  yes you can dual boot windows and ubuntu
[11:11] <hyphenated> rixxon: yes, but it's a little more work than a 'complete' install.
[11:11] <rixxon> yes but i mean can i do all that from the ubuntu installer
[11:11] <rixxon> or do i have to prepare firest
[11:11] <rixxon> first.
[11:11] <hyphenated> rixxon: yes
[11:11] <penguin-1> rixxon,  yes i did that
[11:12] <rixxon> so it can slice a bit of space from the ntfs partition and use?
[11:12] <PCGenie> How do i connect Ubuntu to windows via Lan?
[11:12] <rixxon> PCGenie: ftp! :)
[11:12] <Mortal`> rixxon, is there an ftp-server in Ubuntu? :o
[11:12] <penguin-1> rixxon,  i setup a separate partition before i ran the ubuntu install
[11:13] <rixxon> Mortal`: duno, im a ubuntu newbie, im sure it's easy to install one though
[11:13] <hyphenated> rixxon: yes, you can do that via the installer or before installation
[11:13] <Mortal`> rixxon, I bet it is :)
[11:13] <rixxon> Mortal`: man apt-get, duh. :)
[11:13] <rixxon> ok thanks penguin-1 and hyphenated
[11:13] <rixxon> i'll just need to free up some space first heh
[11:14] <hastesaver> rixxon, it may be easier/safer to do the freeing up from windows
[11:14] <rixxon> how much space does ubuntu need "minimum"?
[11:14] <penguin-1> rixxon,  yeah i just used a partioning tool in windows to shrink my windows partion so i had some extra free space for ubuntu
[11:14] <rixxon> or wait i could probably read that in some docs, nevermind
[11:14] <rem> export: command not found is it not in the PATH by default ...or what is the prob ... ?
[11:14] <rixxon> penguin-1: well that was my question, do i need to do things like that or can the installer do it for me?
[11:15] <Mortal`> In the bootloader, I saw that the "kernel" command was run with a "quiet"-parameter. I suppose it's only related to debug-messages?
[11:15] <duff> how does anyone tell me how do i login for root user?
[11:15] <hastesaver> rixxon, win 2000 (or xp) came with a "system tool" called disk administration or something, and I used that one. I don't think it's a good idea changing ntfs things from Linux
[11:15] <penguin-1> i believe you need to have free space before you install,, if you only have one big ntfs partion then it wont work
[11:16] <hastesaver> duff, you don't. what exactly do you want to do?
[11:16] <penguin-1> i just used partion magic to shrink down my windows partion real fast rebooted then ran the install, worked just fine
[11:16] <rixxon> yea, was just wondering if i needed to do that ;)
[11:16] <dli> penguin-1, parted can also do that
[11:17] <penguin-1> yes but this was really fast for me
[11:17] <penguin-1> there are always more than 1 way to do things
[11:17] <penguin-1> this just happend to be fast and efficient
[11:17] <zbyte> i shared a folder on ubuntu and installed samba..so i can remotely send/retrieve files via home network..connecting to \\ubuntumachine asks for user/pass....but the one i created for ubuntu is not working..do i have to add another user/pass for network users?
[11:17] <rixxon> dli: is it easy to use?
[11:18] <dli> rixxon, you can install GUI version: gparted , or qtparted
[11:18] <penguin-1> zbyte edit your smb.conf file
[11:18] <zbyte> edit and do what?
[11:18] <penguin-1> look in that file, it has alot of comments to guid you and you should see what you neeed to edit
[11:18] <penguin-1> open up smb.conf
[11:18] <penguin-1> use gedit
[11:18] <penguin-1> or vi, whatever you prefer
[11:18] <duff> hsstesaver:I want to do a lot of things
[11:19] <maddy> rixxon: get the GParted Live CD, that's the easiest way ^^
[11:19] <rem> export: command not found  why could this be ?
[11:20] <rixxon> cool, you can share folders on ubuntu with windows users?
[11:20] <rem> yea rix
[11:20] <penguin-1> yes you can
[11:20] <penguin-1> just install samba
[11:20] <rixxon> without them installing something special? :>
[11:20] <rixxon> coolness
[11:20] <rem> you have to activate the sharing in X ...or start samabe ureself ..
[11:21] <rem> samba
[11:21] <rem> export: command not found  why could this be ?
[11:21] <rem> anyon ?
[11:21] <hastesaver> rem, export is a shell builtin in bash
[11:22] <hastesaver> rem, btw, shell builtins don't work with sudo, for some reason
[11:22] <rem> ahh thats why !
[11:22] <rem> lemme try
[11:22] <Gambaroni^away> Hi
[11:23] <Gambaroni^away> When i login to ubuntu (graphical) the screen is just being black, after i have wrote my username and password..
[11:23] <penguin-1> Gambaroni^away,  are you at a command prompt, or just a plain blank screen
[11:23] <Gambaroni^away> I try to choose another session to login to, but didnt work. It's the first time after installation
[11:23] <penguin-1> if you have a text prompt type startx
[11:24] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1 yeah, i know.. But i logged in with gdm..
[11:25] <zbyte> i opened smb.conf  i see no option of setting up a user. anyone experience with using samba to share with windows?
[11:25] <penguin-1> !samba
[11:25] <ubotu> hmm... samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[11:25] <penguin-1> check out those links
[11:26] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1 do you know then?
[11:27] <penguin-1> click on that link it will be more informative and alot faster for you to read it then for me to type step by step to you
[11:27] <penguin-1> just click th eone that says setting up samba
[11:28] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1?
[11:29] <penguin-1> yes?
[11:29] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1 do you know then?
[11:30] <penguin-1> !samba
[11:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[11:30] <penguin-1> click on thes second link
[11:30] <rixxon> why is gnome-terminal suddenly using 80% cpu :(
[11:30] <penguin-1> it will show you alot faster than i can type to you
[11:30] <penguin-1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[11:30] <Abo> is there a way to log 2 users? like change session without killing the already running session, this is possible in windows, but in linux I can't seem to find a way to do it, ( I can log multiple user on console though)
[11:30] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1 ok..
[11:31] <almenfors> i need some help here. i had my second drive mounted..working fine. then 8 days later it suddenly is gone. cant open drive manager. wont start. have no clue what to do.
[11:31] <axion`> is cedega the only way to port windows games to linux?
[11:31] <penguin-1> axion`,  i know wine works for some
[11:32] <penguin-1> ive heard codeca is better though...
[11:32] <penguin-1> codega*
[11:32] <axion`> im looking for a free solution
[11:32] <penguin-1> isnt wine free......
[11:33] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1 why do you link to sambo information for me?
[11:33] <penguin-1> Gambaroni^away, because you wanted info on setting up samba correct?
[11:33] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1 no
[11:33] <Gambaroni^away> [11:25:14]  <zbyte> i opened smb.conf  i see no option of setting up a user. anyone experience with using samba to share with windows?
[11:34] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1 zbyte did..
[11:34] <penguin-1> meh, i suppose im going blind
[11:34] <ompaul> Gambaroni^away, so more to the point what kind of video card have you got?
[11:34] <penguin-1> its late, leave me alone
[11:34] <penguin-1> lol jk
[11:34] <penguin-1> :)
[11:34] <Jude> Number 14 :)
[11:34] <Gambaroni^away> ompaul hmm, good question.. It is an old laptop anyway.. IBM
[11:34] <Gambaroni^away> thinkpad
[11:35] <Anusien> How do I kill the xserver so I can apply a display patch?
[11:35] <almenfors> im in desperate need for help here =(
[11:35] <almenfors> need of* =P
[11:36] <jacopo_> help
[11:36] <ompaul> Gambaroni^away, so do you get a log in screen? if so when you enter your data what happens
[11:37] <ompaul> Gambaroni^away, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[11:37] <jacopo_> search
[11:37] <ompaul> !ask
[11:37] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:38] <ompaul> !faq
[11:38] <ubotu> hmm... faq is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[11:39] <rixxon> since my left mouse button is broken i use the right button as primary... i set 'left-handed mouse' in mouse preferences but it has no effect
[11:40] <Anusien> I've done an apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade.  I should be completely up-to-date, right?
[11:40] <uscg_corey> crap i just accidentally deleted the top bar
[11:40] <axion`> hmm, having trouble getting wine to install
[11:40] <InevitableGlitch> Hello.
[11:40] <Ademan> anyone here use KDevelop?
[11:41] <Abo> Ademan, just installed it
[11:41] <Ademan> Abo: well i had a question about the header file templates... but i doubt you'd know that if you just installed it haha
[11:42] <igorzolnikov> hi... how i can change password of user?
[11:42] <Anusien> or in other words, I think I installed Breezy and want to get up to date, how do I make sure I did that
[11:42] <Abo> Ademan, it won't hurt to ask it, someone else may pick it ;)
[11:42] <rixxon> igorzolnikov: open terminal, sudo passwd <username>
[11:42] <Ademan> haha i've been virtually spamming this poor channel with it haha
[11:42] <igorzolnikov> kk
[11:42] <Ademan> but sure
[11:43] <Ademan> is anyone familiar with the header file template system? can you create macros and whatnot?
[11:43] <rixxon> igorzolnikov: or if you unlike me prefer clicking with the mouse, you can probably do it on System/Administration/Users and Groups
[11:43] <hastesaver> Ademan, is this related to C/C++, or some other programming language, or gnome, or what?
[11:44] <hastesaver> Ademan, oh kdevelop, sorry :(
[11:44] <uscg_corey> how can i get the default top bar back?
[11:44] <uscg_corey> ;.
[11:44] <rixxon> reinstall :P
[11:44] <ompaul> uscg_corey, don't use even the slightest bit of bad language thanks, we are going for a G rating ;-) you want to run  gnome-panel
[11:44] <hastesaver> Ademan, ask in #kubuntu ; more kde users there
[11:44] <Anusien> Yeah.  Where do I find upgrade notes for breezy->dapper?
[11:44] <uscg_corey> what are you talking about?
[11:45] <Anusien> who?
[11:45] <Ademan> thanks hatesaver
[11:45] <rixxon> uscg_corey: "cr*p"
[11:45] <uscg_corey> ;/
[11:45] <rixxon> (probably)
[11:45] <uscg_corey> didnt know that was bad considering people constantly curse in here
[11:45] <uscg_corey> and gnome-panel doesnt work, says its already running
[11:46] <ompaul> uscg_corey, you want to re create a top panel, do this right click on desktop, choose add launcher put gnome-panel in it and launch from there then add the artifacts you want
[11:46] <uscg_corey> ugh, i have to add each individual item back?
[11:46] <hastesaver> uscg_corey, I know... allowing us to delete the top panel without explaining what exactly it is is a bad feature IMHO.
[11:47] <hastesaver> uscg_corey, you could also just delete all your gnome settings, so that you'll have the default :)
[11:47] <rixxon> there should be a 'reset panels' feature aswell
[11:47] <rixxon> ...imho
[11:47] <InevitableGlitch> I'm sure you guys get this one all the time, but I'm having trouble with Screen Resolution.
[11:47] <ompaul> uscg_corey, hastesaver's method is fastest
[11:47] <Anusien> Is there a guide to upgrading to dapper from breezy?
[11:47] <uscg_corey> hrm
[11:47] <ompaul> !upgrade
[11:48] <uscg_corey> what settings do i delete?
[11:48] <Anusien> !upgrade
[11:48] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[11:48] <Anusien> thank you ompaul
[11:48] <dman> hi.. has anyone had problems with firefox lately? im having problems with ff as it sometimes takes a 100% cpu time, and does not let go..
[11:49] <rixxon> dman: using latest?
[11:49] <ompaul> uscg_corey,  I can;t remember - do you have a terminal running?
[11:49] <tribe> i don't, do u have flash plugin installed?
[11:49] <Abo> dman, mine is fine
[11:49] <uscg_corey> i can..
[11:49] <dman> rixxon, yes, im running up to date
[11:49] <tribe> because flash plugins are CPU-suckers
[11:49] <rixxon> dman: any extensions?
[11:49] <KenSentMe> In some games i can't use 3 keys at the same time (like walk left with a, forward with w and lean to the left with z). Is that a software thing or is it my hardware (keyboard)?
[11:49] <alanhs> Hi, is this a relevent place to ask a simple installation question ?
[11:49] <dman> rixxon, like?
[11:50] <rixxon> dman: like any :p
[11:50] <KenSentMe> alanhs: yes
[11:50] <rixxon> dman: firefox extensions that is
[11:50] <alanhs> Great - Bit of a newbie question - but I am trying to intall Dapper on a box that I know needs 'noapic and nolapic' as a boot option - and I cant see how you specify it?
[11:50] <Anusien> wait, ompaul: it didn't update anything
[11:50] <rixxon> dman: i mean if you have latest firefox with no extensions; its likely to be a firefox bug, right? then maybe you should report it
[11:51] <dman> tribe,rixxon, i do have the flash pluggin installed. but i had that installed always, and im only having probs of late..
[11:51] <hastesaver> uscg_corey, ~/.gnome* , ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome , one of them. Best to copy them all somewhere, and make small changes at a time. (Unless you really have no settings you'd like to save)
[11:51] <ompaul> uscg_corey, ehh its in .gconf   - so rm -rf .gconf should sort you if you log out and log out
[11:51] <rixxon> embeded flash/java makes firefox go nuts on windows for me, haven't tried on ubuntu yet
[11:52] <rixxon> dman: you might want to try the noscript extension
[11:52] <dman> oops, after about 10min ff let go of the cpu
[11:52] <Anusien> I followed the instructions in !upgrade and it didn't change anything.  When I went into the synaptic repositories library, they're still the breezy badger libs
[11:52] <lupz> is it possible to automate the installation of ubuntu ??
[11:52] <rixxon> dman: are you browsing any website with java applets or flash animations?
[11:53] <rixxon> lupz: make a ghost image? :P
[11:53] <ompaul> lupz, with dapper (due 1st June) it has an oem version
[11:53] <uscg_corey> thanks ill try
[11:53] <lupz> ompaul: good, and how does it work ?
[11:53] <redguy> !fai
[11:53] <ubotu> redguy: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:54] <redguy> lupz: also http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/Installing_Ubuntu_Linux_with_FAI might be helpful
[11:54] <ompaul> lupz, I just had a quick look at it on the CD nothing more
[11:54] <ompaul> lupz, but only on dapper
[11:54] <lupz> ompaul: k, 1st june is near :)
[11:54] <dman> rixxon, yeah, ff asked me to confirm not continue loading a certain webpage
[11:54] <Surfnkid> what do u use to view or change files?
[11:54] <Surfnkid> man? and what else
[11:55] <igorzolnikov> has ubuntu news rss?
[11:55] <Ademan> what gstreamer plugin do you need to play mpg files?
[11:55] <Ademan> i have ffmpeg
[11:55] <ompaul> lupz, you can get the release candidate version of the cd at cdimage.ubuntu.com to "learn a little in advance"
[11:55] <InevitableGlitch> Ok, I have ubuntu running on a box I'm using as a file/print server, it doesn't have a monitor attached, I am controlling it using VNC, however, because there is no monitor it sets the Resolution at 640 x480 and won't let me change it.
[11:55] <tribe> i got the same the 100% CPU with macromedia's flash plugin dman, i'm now with
[11:55] <tribe> tribe@laptop:~$ dpkg -l | grep flash
[11:55] <tribe> ii  libflash-mozplugin                     0.4.13-5ubuntu1                       GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatibl
[11:55] <tribe> ii  libflash0c2                            0.4.13-5ubuntu1                       GPL Flash (SWF) Library - shared library
[11:55] <InevitableGlitch> How do I change it?
[11:55] <tribe> try the free ones
[11:55] <timfrost> alanhs, two parts.  Booting the CD, you need to edit the boot command line, and append the options.  In the installed system, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, and add a line with "#append noapic nolapic" in the default options section (note the '#' is required).
[11:56] <ompaul> tribe, please do not paste in the channel, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org and put your data there and give people the url
[11:56] <tribe> duh sorry
[11:56] <uscg_corey> ok that resoted my panel
[11:56] <uscg_corey> but it deleted all my evolution email accounts :(
[11:56] <DarkED> hey im having a small problem
[11:56] <DarkED> i used wget to download the ati driver installer
[11:56] <ompaul> uscg_corey, hastesaver did say to you to back it up before hand did you?
[11:57] <uscg_corey> i did
[11:57] <Anusien> whee, upgrading
[11:57] <eXistenZ> why the breezy is still in the download page?
[11:57] <Surfnkid> deleting things suck :-/
[11:57] <uscg_corey> trying to figure out which files store it though
[11:57] <uscg_corey> apparently its not apps/evolution
[11:57] <DarkED> it finished, but the file is two times as large as it should be (73meg as opposed to 36meg)
[11:57] <DarkED> I tried running it, md5sum fails, any idea what causes this?
[11:57] <rixxon> anyone know of a mouse that works fine in ubuntu? (back/forward buttons doesn't work in firefox with my microsoft mouse)
[11:57] <MetaMorfoziS> it chained the two file?
[11:58] <rixxon> its broken and i need to buy a new one anyway :p
[11:58] <MetaMorfoziS> try delete the big file, and download again.
[11:58] <Surfnkid> my usb wireless mouse works
[11:58] <Surfnkid> logishit
[11:58] <Surfnkid> :)
[11:58] <rixxon> you don't like logitech?
[11:58] <Surfnkid> i do
[11:58] <Surfnkid> i just make fun of names
[11:58] <Surfnkid> :P
[11:58] <Ademan> what video player do you guys reccomend?
[11:58] <Abo> tottem
[11:58] <ompaul> Surfnkid, don't use that language here thanks, we want it G rated
[11:59] <Surfnkid> how do you install the plugins and codecs
[11:59] <Ademan> Abo: i can't get totem to play ANYTHING
[11:59] <Surfnkid> ommpaul sorry
[11:59] <Surfnkid> :)
[11:59] <Surfnkid> Ademan same here
[11:59] <Surfnkid> totem is up but missing mp3 decoder
[11:59] <rixxon> i was considering a logitech v400
[11:59] <scarn> rixxon, you will need to edit the xorg.conf to get the forward/back buttons to work
[11:59] <Anusien> mplayer
[11:59] <Abo> Ademan, Surfnkid, you need to install the restricted format
[11:59] <Ademan> Surfnkid: its SUPPOSED to be through apt-get and the gstreamer-* set of plugins
[11:59] <rixxon> scarn: aha, thanks
[11:59] <Ademan> Abo: even for mpeg?
[11:59] <scarn> search the forums for 5 button mouse
[11:59] <Anusien> scarn: is that for all mice, or just logitech?
[12:00] <scarn> its an easy thing
[12:00] <Abo> Ademan, yes
[12:00] <Surfnkid> are the restrictted formats in the SPM?
[12:00] <scarn> well, alot of peeps have problems
[12:00] <uscg_corey> so noone knows where evo email acounts are stored?
[12:00] <Diiba> Hi!
[12:00] <Ademan> Abo: is that the w32codecs or somethign different?
[12:00] <scarn> diff mice
[12:00] <ompaul> uscg_corey, evolution lives in /home/username/evolution all you need to do is restore the other parts which are in /home/username/.gconf/apps/evolution
[12:00] <dman> thx tribe,rixxon, probably have to live with it then
[12:00] <scarn> i have a razor copperhead..i had to edit xorg.conf
[12:00] <uscg_corey> thats what i copied
[12:00] <uscg_corey> but it still doesnt recognize
[12:01] <ompaul> uscg_corey, log out and back in
[12:01] <rixxon> dman: did you try what tribe said?
[12:01] <Kaiser> Hello guys! I am a real ubuntu newbie (dapper) and I can't get sound in my distro ...
[12:01] <Surfnkid> know how to get the CPU and GPU fans to be monitored/on/off/ etc?
[12:01] <Surfnkid> on a Dell 8600 laptop
[12:01] <hastesaver> uscg_corey, sorry to keep hitting you with the worst imaginable kludgy solutions, but I'd like to mention that you can also try to grep your backed up directories for one of the names of your friends :)
[12:01] <Anusien> scarn: is it a topic specific to 5button mice?
[12:01] <dman> trying  the free players rixxon ?
[12:01] <igorzolnikov> my unbuntu hangs sometime... but i can move mouse...
[12:01] <uscg_corey> ?
[12:01] <ompaul> uscg_corey, do this first, sudo updatedb so you can run locate evolut and find all files on your machine
[12:02] <ompaul> hastesaver, bring him through locate its easier and you can use grep and grep -v to get there fast :-)
[12:03] <scarn> Anusien, well, 5 button mouse setup is the search i used. you will have to scroll a bit. but u will find it. its not only an ubuntu problem
[12:03] <DarkED> sorry, i lagged :D
[12:03] <Kaiser> Any suggestion? I tried calling alsaconf but I get a "bash command not found" even though I installed alsa-base packages and so on
[12:03] <Anusien> scarn: I found the link, but it seems rather specific to logitech
[12:03] <igorzolnikov> my unbuntu hangs sometime... but for all that i can move mouse...
[12:03] <rixxon> dman: yea
[12:04] <Anusien> irony of ironies, i have a microsofot mouse
[12:04] <tribe> remove the macromedia's and install the GPL ones
[12:04] <dman> rixxon, i'll give it a go in dapper, im not updating anything but security updates now
[12:04] <scarn> Anusien, there are several topics on the subject, throughout the forums. not just logitech. ms mice aswell
[12:04] <Anusien> Yeah, I'm finding some help.  Thanks
[12:05] <scarn> like i said, i have a razor copperhead and i had the problem aswell
[12:05] <hastesaver> uscg_corey, but first, try logging out and back in, as ompaul said (try simplest solutions first)
[12:05] <uscg_corey> i just manually added the account
[12:06] <Anusien> On an unrelated note, how do I kill X so I can run Nvidia's update?  I tried followed the instructions in the forums directly, but when I do, the installer complains that X is still running
[12:07] <scarn> Anusien, in terminal type init 3. when done type init 5
[12:07] <Anusien> thank you
[12:07] <scarn> np
[12:08] <Anusien> There's a lot to process though
[12:08] <Anusien> err, process mentally
[12:09] <scarn> yea, thers some work to get linux setup correctly, and how ya want 8)
[12:09] <almenfors> 8 days ago i installed ubuntu. i set it up as i wanted with 2 extra drives mounted.got my ftp up and running. and left it like that.. for 8 days. today i noticed i had slow download from my server so i decided to reboot it. when it started up again 1 hd is missing. and my login is no longer in "sudo list" ????
[12:09] <hastesaver> Gnome should just remove that feature, seriously. I thought I was removing the clock-applet or something (I didn't know what "panel" meant), and it was gone.
[12:09] <Anusien> Yeah, but even if I wanted to go back, it would be as much work, since I think I killed my windows partition
[12:09] <scarn> ouch
[12:10] <scarn> i have a seperate hd for linux
[12:10] <Anusien> laptop
[12:10] <scarn> ahh
[12:10] <hastesaver> Someone is currently trying to hack into my computer? What should I do?
[12:10] <almenfors> DarkED, hey dude i need ur help =)
[12:11] <DarkED> almenfors: what can i do for you?
[12:11] <ompaul> hastesaver, are you running any web servers or some such?
[12:11] <hastesaver> Of course, he/she is being unsuccessful (trying random generic names (ssh)), but I'd still like to do something...
[12:11] <ompaul> hastesaver, ohh do nothing other than add them to a firewall rule that says deny
[12:11] <Anusien> hastesaver: block them from your iptables
[12:11] <DarkED> sorry i am lagging
[12:11] <DarkED> almenfors: what can i do for you?
[12:11] <Anusien> worst case scenario, the moment they get a login, pull the plug
[12:12] <almenfors> DarkED, well last time we spoke i was to install dapper remeber =)  hehe well that didnt work so good. but thats not my problem now.  i rebooted my server and suddenly 1 drive is missing and my login is no longer in "sudo list" ?
[12:12] <hastesaver> how do I do that?
[12:12] <g-nome> hallo, what are the differences between ctrl+alt+F1 and ctrl+alt+F2 ?
[12:12] <rixxon> its interesting how some windows-specific things work better on ubuntu for me
[12:12] <scarn> oKtosiTe, im off to get a couple hours sleep. gl and g'nite peeps! 8)
[12:12] <hastesaver> Not pull the plug; deny them from iptables/firewall
[12:12] <ompaul> hastesaver, reactive puts you in a worse position it is most likely a broken and cracked windows box trying a 2 year old problem
[12:12] <Gondlir> Greets!
[12:12] <Gondlir> Any one able to help with an FTP question?
[12:12] <scarn> ehh how i get okosite in my post? lol must be tired heh
[12:12] <DarkED> almenfors: i know nothing about the servers
[12:13] <DarkED> almenfors: and i have no idea what your hdd problem is, except maybe something wrong in your /etc/fstab
[12:13] <Anusien> gondlir: only one way to find out
[12:13] <almenfors> DarkED, naa ive been running it on a normal install for now. to learn more =)
[12:13] <hastesaver> ompaul, you mean a two-year old ssh flaw that's gone now?
[12:13] <Gondlir> I would like to allow someone to have ftp access to my home system.. can I do that?
[12:13] <Surfnkid> Help
[12:13] <hastesaver> I can just wait for him to go through the alphabet (currently on tony, vanessa,...)
[12:13] <ompaul> that never existed in a release edition of ubuntu :)
[12:13] <Surfnkid> could someone explain to me the next step on this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=dell+8600
[12:14] <McNutella> 3 more days til dapper ;)
[12:14] <Anusien> man, microsoft has it easy.  They throw enough money at the problem, and they can package a bunch of stuff by default with their OS
[12:14] <almenfors> DarkED, the hd isnt listed in fstab and i have a script to run that might help me out. but i cant run it since im no longer in "sudo list" ??
[12:14] <laure> hello
[12:14] <hastesaver> ompaul, so I shouldn't ban him from firewall or iptables? (What did reactive mean?)
[12:14] <McNutella> Anusien: and ubuntu do it for free :P
[12:14] <laure> re-hello
[12:15] <Anusien> Well, it appears like I don't have the proper mp3 codecs
[12:15] <Gondlir> anyone able to help with my question?
[12:15] <ompaul> hastesaver, reactive is attack the box
[12:15] <Surfnkid> well i guess ill work on it tomorrow
[12:15] <Anusien> but then again I had to do apt-get to install gcc, so who knows
[12:15] <ompaul> hastesaver, it is considered as illegal
[12:15] <McNutella> Anusien: im sure someone here will be able to resolve that for you
[12:15] <Anusien> Gondlir: Does said person have an account on your computer?
[12:15] <Anusien> McNutella: Yeah, as soon as it finishes upgrading to Dapper, I'm sure I can find it in Synaptic
[12:15] <Gondlir> Anusien, not yet
[12:16] <hastesaver> ompaul, oh, ok, of course. I wasn't considering that :) (Beyond whois and nslookup, just out of idle curiousity)
[12:16] <Gondlir> I am starting from scratch
[12:16] <rixxon> can anyone recommend an irssi theme which fits into default ubuntu nicely?
[12:16] <hastesaver> ompaul, I think I'll just switch my router off and on
[12:16] <g-nome> what are the differences between ctrl+alt+F1 and ctrl+alt+F2 ?
[12:16] <twobitsprite> are there any secondary ubuntu repositories? It seems like there are some programs that are not available in the default repos?
[12:17] <emile> 5
[12:17] <Anusien> g-nome: they are different connections
[12:17] <DarkED> almenfors: i have no idea what sudo list is
[12:17] <twobitsprite> specifically I'm looking for qGo, which is fully open source, and is available in debian...
[12:17] <Gambaroni^away> ompaul yeah, the screen is just being black.. I let it stand so for 1 hour, nothing happens.. I think it is 5.10
[12:17] <Surfnkid> you get 7 tty's gnome
[12:18] <Anusien> Like, I know that switching to Linux will make me a better person, but I can't help but remember how easy it was to use my mouse in Windows.  Wi-Fi was still a pain though
[12:18] <Gondlir> Anusien// Are you able to help?
[12:18] <DarkED> i have a question
[12:18] <Anusien> g-nome: tty = teletype, which is basically a connection to your computer.  you have 7 of them, so you could be connected as 7 different accounts at the same type
[12:18] <Surfnkid> wifi thru ubuntu rocks
[12:18] <twobitsprite> Anusien, switching to linux only makes you a better person in the eyes of people who have already joined the cult :P
[12:18] <Anusien> in other words, people I care about?
[12:19] <Anusien> Gondlir: Ubuntu has several different ftp daemons available through Synaptic.  If you give the person a shell account and you run an ftpd, they can get in to that account and access those files.  otherwise, things get trickier
[12:19] <twobitsprite> Anusien, sure :)
[12:19] <Anusien> Gondlir: This is intentionally vague because which ever ftp server you choose to run has better documentation available
[12:19] <Gondlir> ok... so then I go to synaptic and type FTP and see what comes up?
[12:20] <Anusien> synaptic is graphical.  You can browse through the directories
[12:20] <timfrost> twobitsprite, you need to add the universe repository to get qGo -  see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:21] <InevitableGlitch> I'm having a problem, can anyone help?
[12:21] <McNutella> maybe :)
[12:21] <rixxon> not without knowing the problem no
[12:21] <Anusien> There's only one way to find out
[12:21] <McNutella> heh
[12:21] <rixxon> ;)
[12:21] <jeff_> InevitableGlitch, don't ask to ask, just ask.
[12:21] <InevitableGlitch> Ok, I have ubuntu running on a box I'm using as a file/print server, it doesn't have a monitor attached, I am controlling it using VNC, however, because there is no monitor it sets the Resolution at 640 x480 and won't let me change it.
[12:21] <McNutella> I have an itchy arse..
[12:21] <InevitableGlitch> How do I change it?
[12:21] <jeff_> You need to change your xorg.conf
[12:21] <Anusien> well, here goes the true test of my processor, compiling mplayer
[12:22] <MadMerC> does anyone know if its possible to view an NTFS drive with ubuntu???
[12:22] <InevitableGlitch> xorg.conf, where is that?
[12:22] <newbie2> anyone here using ndiswrapper?
[12:22] <rixxon> MadMerC: probably, duno how though :)
[12:22] <Anusien> MadMerC it is.  Try ntfscat or ntfs{TAB} to see all the options
[12:22] <jeff_> InevitableGlitch, try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:22] <Gondlir> Anusien// Any suggestions for a newbie to look for?
[12:23] <Dybber> MadMerC, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[12:23] <MadMerC> Dybber: thanx
[12:24] <spikeb> yes, you can view it
[12:24] <hastesaver_> Is there a way I can ask sshd to ban an IP address that has been getting too many wrong attempts?
[12:24] <jeff_> InevitableGlitch, just accept the default options and when it comes to screen resolution, select only the ones you want to view with via VNC. Then you will have to restart X on that machine: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restaart
[12:24] <Dybber> I have a problem with Totem (is this the wrong place to ask?). The error is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14761
[12:25] <jeff_> InevitableGlitch, sorry that's: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:26] <hastesaver_> Dybber, try killing esd and starting it again, or try removing your /home/dybber/.esd_auth (ignore the Gtk-CRITICAL warnings, I see them everywhere and I don't think they mean anything :)
[12:26] <spikeb> yes, gtk critical warnings are anything but
[12:27] <spikeb> first off, how do you reconcile the words critical and warning heh
[12:27] <_mason> I have a issue with wine, is there a way to stop it Full screening an application that, well needs to be fullscreened. Trying to play arcade games it painfull, cause my reso jumps down to 640x480 ( or whatever it is ) and would much rather a small playable window on my desktop .. How can i suppress the full screen call ?
[12:28] <rixxon> Hobbsee: how did you get such a host? :>
[12:28] <spikeb> hiya Hobbsee
[12:28] <newbie2> ok I take it no one is using ndiswrapper then any tips on setting up my wireless network card total newbie to ubuntu
[12:29] <Fikus> i know this has been asked already but im having some problems fixing my x-server issues from upgrading to dapper any takers?
[12:29] <Surfnkid> how can i change the attributes settings on the /etc/modules file?
[12:29] <Surfnkid>  its read only and i need to add a few lines
[12:29] <Gondlir> Where do things go once Synaptic has installed them?
[12:29] <Dybber> hastesaver, the /home/dybber/.esd_auth error disappeared but it still wont start. I also get an error in a lilttle popup window saying that video-outdata is in use by another program.
[12:29] <_mason> chmod 777 /etc/modules
[12:29] <Hobbsee> rixxon: by being a member.  see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[12:30] <almenfors> i need some serious help. got problems, serious problems.
[12:30] <Surfnkid> thx
[12:30] <_mason> @ Surfnkid
[12:30] <Hobbsee> hi spikeb
[12:30] <rixxon> Hobbsee: tanks
[12:30] <rixxon> +h
[12:30] <Surfnkid> and how do i chanage it back to read only?
[12:30] <_mason> Surfnkid : sudo chmod 777 /etc/modules
[12:30] <_mason> Surfnkid : sudo chmod 766 /etc/modules  ?
[12:30] <Surfnkid> ok
[12:30] <Gondlir> ok folks...
[12:30] <Surfnkid> 777 off 766 on
[12:30] <_mason> ^ for read-only
[12:30] <Surfnkid> thx
[12:30] <almenfors> spikeb, and who is that =)
[12:30] <Gondlir> I am officially lost.. but willing to learn
[12:31] <spikeb> almenfors: psychiatrist, maybe?
[12:31] <spikeb> almenfors: heh
[12:31] <alanhs> I am trying to intall dapper on a strange box - just for fun ;-) and it hangs during the initial boot from the install cd - can someone point me to a good start point - I am a newbie to this distro.
[12:31] <almenfors> spikeb, haha well thats not my problem actually.. or atleast for now. if i dont get this problem fixed ill need one for sure.
[12:31] <spikeb> almenfors: what's up?
[12:32] <Anusien> So appearantly trying to use stuff like gcc and vim while upgrading doesn't work
[12:32] <Surfnkid> it wont let me save :(
[12:32] <spikeb> heh Anusien
 did you check the md5 sum after you dl it?
[12:32] <almenfors> spikeb, well i was acessing my ubuntu using ftp. thought it was slow. so i decided to reboot. after reboot im suddenly not in "sudo list" anymore?
[12:33] <spikeb> um
[12:33] <spikeb> hmm
 Yes, it installs on another machine.
[12:33] <_mason> alanha, Try installing with the live disk. ( normally a lot more buggy.. but might not hang ? )
 try disabling some stuff.. like usb acpi etc etc
[12:34] <spikeb> almenfors: ok, do you have a livecd?
[12:34] <octan> linux acpi=off nousb .. brbr i dont rememer all the syntaxes
[12:34] <almenfors> spikeb, nopes its a real install
[12:34] <hastesaver_> Dybber, try 1. killall esd; esd 2. logging out and back in 3. rebooting
[12:34] <almenfors> spikeb, been running without problems for 8 days.
[12:34] <spikeb> almenfors: i meant do you have a livecd around that you can use
[12:34] <Gondlir> I could use some further assistance on the FTP Server question...
[12:34] <almenfors> spikeb, well im running breezy but i have dapper live.. will that work?
[12:35] <spikeb> almenfors: yeah
[12:35] <dark_light> i am on amd64 and have to install a 32bit package. it needs libSDL-1.2.so.0 that is on /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 but this package seems to be looking on /usr/lib32/libSDL-1.2.so.0 .. i have to install the 32bit version too? how? it might broke the package system..
 yes the machine is a real problem one - took me ages to get Gentoo working on it so I tried that already, how can I get a verbose boot ? Some trace would help.
[12:35] <almenfors> spikeb, ok what do u want me to do?
[12:35] <spikeb> almenfors: what you need to do is boot from the live cd, mount your hard drive, and edit your sudoers file
[12:35] <Gondlir> Mostly How can I offer an FTP connection for someone to my system so they can upload.
[12:35] <alexander_> my firefox wont start up after I installed the automatix pack _
[12:35] <hastesaver> Gondlir, install ftpd ?
[12:35] <almenfors> spikeb, ok hold on 1 min
[12:35] <spikeb> !automatix
[12:35] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[12:36] <_nano_> !easyubuntu
[12:36] <ubotu> I guess easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[12:36] <Gondlir> This is the netkit ftp server.  It is recommended for you to use one of its
[12:36] <Gondlir> alternatives, such as wu-ftpd or proftpd.
[12:36] <Gondlir> That is what I got...
[12:37] <spikeb> Gondlir: do NOT use wu-ftpd
[12:37] <spikeb> heh
[12:37] <Hobbsee> F0LL0W3R: please kill off that message.
[12:37] <almenfors> spikeb, ok got the cd. brb from live.
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[12:37] <spikeb> almenfors: ok
[12:37] <Gondlir> I installed something called "libnet-ftpserve-perl"
[12:38] <Gondlir> Is that good?
[12:38] <spikeb> it's not wuftpd. should be fine
[12:38] <Gondlir> spikeb, didn't you just say to NOT use that one?
[12:39] <spikeb> Gondlir: yes. and since what you just asked about is NOT wuftpd, you'll be fine
[12:39] <dark_light> i am going to try link the lib64 libraries to lib32 directory, anyone have a better idea? (it must don't work..)
[12:39] <Gondlir> spikeb, thanks..
[12:39] <Gondlir> So where does it go when synaptic is done?
[12:39] <spikeb> dark_light: install the 32 bit version of your OS instead
[12:40] <dark_light> spikeb, openoffice on amd64 comes on 32bit version
[12:41] <spikeb> dark_light: heh
[12:41] <Gondlir> spikeb, I am still rather new to this.. I apologize if my questions are silly..
[12:42] <Gondlir> Synaptic finished with the package.. but I am not certain where to find it now.
[12:42] <spikeb> Gondlir: they're not silly, but i have no idea where it's installed
[12:42] <twobitsprite> how do I change the look of my QT programs in ubuntu? they all look very plain, but they used to look great in debian with kde
[12:42] <richiefrich> u can search
[12:42] <dark_light> well, there are many duplicated libs that is alredy installed.. so install the x86 version should be fine...
[12:42] <spikeb> twobitsprite: you probably need to install kcontrol
[12:43] <spikeb> dark_light: yeah should be
[12:43] <Gondlir> How would I access it?
[12:43] <spikeb> Gondlir: no clue, the only thing i know about ftp is that wuftpd has a horrible security history
[12:43] <Gondlir> ok
[12:43] <twobitsprite> spikeb, k, thanks
[12:43] <moses> help
[12:43] <moses> how do you check the free disk space?
[12:43] <richiefrich> Gondlir what did u install ?
[12:43] <richiefrich> moses du
[12:43] <captine> Gondlir: i used proftp on Slackware.  Worked well
[12:44] <dark_light> moses, df -h
[12:44] <moses> where is that df?
[12:44] <richiefrich> moses du also
[12:44] <richiefrich> du -ch <dir>
[12:44] <Gondlir> I installed something called "libnet-ftpserve-perl"
[12:45] <moses> is there a way to install ubuntu and use only minimal space for the os?
[12:45] <moses> cause i only have 2.5 gb hdd
[12:45] <dark_light> moses, $ whereis df -> df: /bin/df
[12:45] <spikeb> moses: sort of. a server install is about as small as it gets
[12:45] <dark_light> du is on /bin too
[12:45] <eggzeck> moses: you may be able to install the base system only.
[12:46] <zouyuhan> 2.5 gb is enough
[12:46] <moses> how?
[12:46] <moses> base system? what is the difference?
[12:46] <InevitableGlitch> jeff_ : you still there?
[12:46] <dark_light> (no, du is on /usr/bin ..)
[12:46] <richiefrich> locate   also
[12:46] <moses> you mean custom install?
[12:46] <Gondlir> Captine// can you help with proftpd?
[12:47] <Gondlir> Captine// do I want to run it inetd or standalone ?
[12:47] <captine> Gondlir: am a pretty new user to Linux.  I set it up for internal use on my slackware box.
[12:47] <captine> i ran it in inetd, with no anonymous user access
[12:47] <InevitableGlitch> jeff_ :  Thanks man, it's working fine now. :)
[12:47] <richiefrich> Gondlir i can do u vsftpd
[12:47] <eggzeck> dark_light, du isindeed located in /usr/bin
[12:47] <richiefrich> not profstpd
[12:47] <moses> zouhan
[12:48] <moses> is 2.5gb really enough?
[12:48] <Fikus> hello?
[12:48] <moses> and i have 64 mb of ram is it enough also?
[12:48] <Gondlir> one sec richiefrich I will see if I can find it.. That will be the third package i install
[12:48] <dark_light> eggzeck, yes, i though it was a unix standard tool
[12:48] <moses> is 2.5 gb enough to use linux?
[12:48] <moses> hdd
[12:48] <spikeb> moses: that's not really enough to run a graphical system (64mb ram)
[12:48] <eggzeck> moses, base system = no gdm (and no other things too, hehe)
[12:48] <dark_light> moses, 64mb isn't enough for gnome, but for xfce i think it will run
[12:49] <moses> ok
[12:49] <moses> what is the minimum then
[12:49] <Fikus> can anyone help me i upgraded and even trying an old kernal, reconfiguring it back to NV from nvidia and nothing
[12:49] <moses> how about 96?
[12:49] <spikeb> moses: moses you might want to look into something more specialised for your hardware, like damn small linux
[12:49] <moses> 96 mb rram
[12:49] <richiefrich> Gondlir  try dpkg-query -l libnet-ftpserve-perl
[12:49] <richiefrich> Gondlir  try dpkg-query -L libnet-ftpserve-perl
[12:49] <moses> i see..
[12:49] <Gondlir> I just snagged the one you suggested.. now what?
[12:49] <moses> yeah i heard about it
[12:49] <Fikus> anyone?
[12:49] <Anusien> Am I crazy, or is wineHQ's synaptic server down?
[12:50] <spikeb> moses: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[12:50] <moses> but i wonder if it will have the same drivers,
[12:50] <moses> downloadable?
[12:50] <dark_light> you can try the various lightweight graphical interfaces.. it might be enough for you
[12:50] <Abo> I need to resize an ext3 partition (I'm using qtparted), right clicking shows the resise option grayed
[12:51] <richiefrich> Gondlir what one ?
[12:51] <richiefrich> Gondlir vsftpd ?
[12:51] <moses> is the dsl downloadable?
[12:51] <spikeb> yeah
[12:51] <moses> where?
[12:51] <Gondlir> yes
[12:51] <captine> is there anyway to run 2 operating systems on one machine at the same time?
[12:52] <dark_light> captine, you can emulate one with the other os
[12:52] <eggzeck> never seen that question before
[12:52] <spikeb> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ check it
[12:52] <richiefrich> Gondlir  http://penguinslair.dyndns.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8
[12:52] <moses> will it have the drivers like the usual ubuntu installer?
[12:52] <spikeb> captine: yes. virtualization
[12:52] <richiefrich> Gondlir if u have questinos ask me
[12:52] <zouyuhan> Can I use Airport Extreme in Dapper?
[12:52] <misha> hi all :)
[12:52] <moses> yes it says, the dsl runs at the same time with windows
[12:52] <captine> dark_light: so i can emulate windows from in ubuntu?
[12:53] <aLPHa_LeaK> zouyuhan: yes.
[12:53] <Abo> does anyone know why , in qtparted, the resize option is grayed ?
[12:53] <Anusien> "Error: The GUI requires GTK devel packages (which were not found).
[12:53] <Anusien> " <-- what package do I need?
[12:53] <dark_light> cappiz, yes
[12:53] <richiefrich> Gondlir  thats your config for it,  just add what ever section u need then start the deamond
[12:53] <ben_underscore> captine, not emulate but virtualise - you could use vmware for example
[12:53] <spikeb> Abo: are you running it as admin? also, ar eyou trying to resize the disk you booted from?
[12:53] <dark_light> cappiz, vmware (proprietary) and qemu (free software) just do it
[12:53] <Gondlir> uhmm ok...
[12:53] <zouyuhan> Which version should I get? Newest?
[12:53] <Gondlir> I'm a little cautious as I've not done this before..
[12:53] <misha> bye all :)
[12:53] <kp_djc> hellpo
[12:53] <kp_djc> hello
[12:53] <spikeb> moses: it says it CAN
[12:54] <captine> ben_underscore: thnks.  will look into vmware.  u used it before? is it easy to setup
[12:54] <Gondlir> probably in terminal?
[12:54] <spikeb> moses: doesnt say it has to
[12:54] <richiefrich> Gondlir u can use gedit
[12:54] <kp_djc> HOW DO I GET MUSIC TO PLAY ON THIS??
[12:54] <alsa> how do i disable and enable my sound card on ubuntu
[12:54] <alsa> it seems to be installed
[12:54] <alsa> but it doesnt enable
[12:54] <alsa> after i upgraded from 5.1 to 6.0
[12:54] <richiefrich> kp_djc on what ?
[12:54] <kp_djc> where can i find music files thatll work?
[12:54] <ben_underscore> captine, at work yes. it is probably the best in the market.
[12:54] <kp_djc> on linux..
[12:54] <aLPHa_LeaK> zouyuhan: yeah. i tried the desktop cd as well. works great
[12:54] <richiefrich> kp_djc  what app >
[12:54] <kp_djc> any
[12:54] <Gondlir> richiefrich, I'm not even certain where this thing went... =(
[12:54] <Abo> spikeb, I'm running it using sudo, but yeah, I'm in linux now
[12:54] <kp_djc> totem movie player?
[12:54] <spikeb> Abo: you can resize the disk you booted from
[12:55] <kp_djc> rythmbox music player?
[12:55] <Abo> spikeb, it's the same physical drive I booted from, but not the logical
[12:55] <spikeb> Abo: you need to boot and run qtparted from a livecd
[12:55] <richiefrich> Gondlir whats the package called /
[12:55] <kp_djc> i just want to know how to play music..blah..
[12:55] <Abo> spikeb, I'll try that later, thanks
[12:55] <richiefrich> kp_djc  man what kinda files ? music ? video ?
[12:55] <spikeb> !tell kp_djc about restrictedformats
[12:55] <kp_djc> music
[12:55] <Gondlir> Let me jump back into synaptic..
[12:55] <kp_djc> mp3 files wont work..
[12:55] <dark_light> ben_underscore, what is the difference between emulation and virtualization?
[12:56] <richiefrich> kp_djc  apt-get install audacious
[12:56] <kp_djc> where do i get that?
[12:56] <Twist> bjr a tous
[12:56] <moses> anyway, if you install ubuntu how big will it occupy on the hdd
[12:56] <Twist> j'ai une tite question pour faire un script bash
[12:56] <Twist> oups, i'm on english channel ^^
[12:57] <Twist> sorry
[12:57] <richiefrich> Gondlir dpkg-query -L <pagage>
[12:57] <Anusien> richie: audacious isn't a package
[12:57] <ben_underscore> dark_light, scale? :-)
[12:57] <alsa> clear
[12:57] <alsa> wops
[12:57] <danharibo> HELP! i can't boot ubuntu
[12:57] <dark_light> ben_underscore, i just dont get it:)
[12:57] <petrik> Trying to format a prtition that is not mounted but it says it can not do it because it is use by the system? Any ideas what could have it tied up?
[12:58] <Gondlir> vsftpd ?
[12:58] <danharibo> HELP! i can't boot ubuntu
[12:58] <dark_light> danharibo, why? is there any error message, kernel panic..?
[12:58] <richiefrich> Gondlir dpkg-query -L  vsftpd
[12:58] <richiefrich> try that
[12:58] <danharibo> no
[12:58] <danharibo> it just crasjes
[12:58] <dark_light> danharibo, when?
[12:58] <dark_light> before begin the boot? or during the boot?
[12:58] <danharibo> on the colour ubuntu screen after the boot up
[12:58] <Gondlir> Ok
[12:58] <aLPHa_LeaK>  test
[12:58] <Gondlir> did that
[12:59] <dark_light> well, you meant, on the gdm?
[12:59] <richiefrich> Gondlir did it give u output ?
[12:59] <kp_djc> im on ubuntu live
[12:59] <Gondlir> plenty
[12:59] <danharibo> after that screen it just crashes
[12:59] <kp_djc> will music files still play?
[12:59] <richiefrich> Gondlir  can u pastebin it  /
[12:59] <richiefrich> kp_djc  apt-get install audacious
[12:59] <Gondlir> Sure.. how?
[01:00] <kp_djc> richiefrich   where? how?
[01:00] <AegerTea> please link for ubuntu frech server
[01:00] <richiefrich> Gondlir dpkg-query -L  vsftpd  >  output.txt
[01:00] <AegerTea> french sorry
[01:00] <dark_light> danharibo, you tried to kill X with ctrl+alt+backspace and wait for a new free? or to change to a terminal with ctrl+alt+f1 to check the problem
[01:00] <richiefrich> Gondlir   then goto  http://pastebin.ca/  and click on   Upload a Post
[01:00] <danharibo> i duno,
[01:00] <richiefrich> Gondlir   and tell me the url
[01:00] <richiefrich> kp_djc  in a terminal
[01:01] <danharibo> hang on, i have to re-boot
[01:01] <richiefrich> kp_djc   as root
[01:01] <kp_djc> ah..
[01:01] <kp_djc> so i go to terminal
[01:01] <dark_light> danharibo, Hmmm. well. the ubuntu crashes on login screen, right? so, press ctrl+alt+f1 and try to log in on a terminal to check if the problem is only with the x
[01:02] <danharibo> x?
[01:02] <dark_light> x is the graphical server
[01:02] <danharibo> oh
[01:02] <richiefrich> kp_djc yes
[01:02] <kp_djc> and...?
[01:02] <Gondlir> richiefrich, http://pastebin.ca/59299
[01:03] <djpate> could anyone help me to get my sound back, i did a kernel upgrade but now no sound at all
[01:03] <ompaul> !dapper
[01:03] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[01:04] <richiefrich> Gondlir nice, thats how u find out where  a pacgage is installed, that is the output for vsftpd :)
[01:04] <Gondlir> I'm lost.. sorry
[01:04] <Gondlir> where do I configure?
[01:04] <Gypsy_Gal72> hi all
[01:04] <richiefrich> Gondlir  --> edit that file /etc/vsftpd.conf
[01:04] <alanhs> Can anyone tell me how I get detailed output during boot (Dapper Install CD)
[01:05] <dark_light> alanhs, well, i think if you press ctrl+alt+f8 you will have the detailed output
[01:05] <Gondlir> on my way
[01:05] <Gypsy_Gal72> is there some1 there who can tell me how I install programe after it has downloaded
[01:05] <richiefrich> Gondlir  u asked before about how to find out where a package installed it's things use --> dpkg-query -L| <package-name>     <-- like u did  :~)
[01:05] <dark_light> because after the boot, the ctrl+alt+f8 is filled with the output of the boot:)
[01:05] <Gondlir> ahh ok
[01:06] <richiefrich> Gondlir your getting it, i'll help u anyway i can
[01:06] <richiefrich> L~)
[01:06] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72, we have over 17000 programs for 5.10 and more for dapper which one in particular were you looking at?
 thanks
[01:07] <Gypsy_Gal72> I just put ubuntu on my pc  n still trying 2 workit all out
[01:07] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72, ahh
[01:07] <Gypsy_Gal72> yes thats what I said lol
[01:07] <Gondlir> richiefrich, looks greek to me...
[01:07] <Gondlir> Where does "emerge vsftpd" go?
[01:07] <richiefrich> Gondlir what does ?
[01:08] <hyphenated> Gondlir: to #gentoo
[01:08] <richiefrich> Gondlir emerge is gentoo
[01:08] <richiefrich> Gondlir  skip thatr line
[01:08] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72, so don't download unless youreally have to, use the tools you have for instance do this Fromthe meny click on System Administration Synapitic Package Mangeer
[01:08] <Gondlir> Sorry guys.. I'm feeling rather stupid...
[01:08] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72, when you have that done say so and I will give you more for that
[01:08] <richiefrich> hyphenated  i gave him a howto for vsftp :) and i added that line for gentoo ppl
[01:09] <Anusien> how do I exit X without shutting down Linux?
[01:09] <richiefrich> Gondlir goto number 2
[01:09] <ompaul> Anusien, do you want it off just now or all the time?
[01:09] <captine> ben_underscore: vmware=expensive.  will have to rather reboot etc.
[01:09] <Gondlir> I have someone in an office without a burner that needs to ftp me some files so I can burn them ... I said I was certain Ubuntu could do it.. and now it seems I have gotten in over my head...
[01:09] <zelevw> hi...ive got a server running pptpd...win clients can connect...can ping the pptp server but it doesnt route...ive enabled ipforward=yes in /etc/network/options...what am I missing?
[01:10] <semboy> hello i am just wondering what command is to -update my system i know about apt-get update stuff but -i know there is another one
[01:10] <Gypsy_Gal72> ok well went in there but couldnt find the file that I had just downloaded
[01:10] <hyphenated> Gondlir: there's heaps of ways to get files from one place to another, each one with their own headaches
[01:10] <Anusien> ompaul: now, just to update drivers
[01:10] <richiefrich> Gondlir no man ill get u there
[01:10] <Anusien> semboy: try synaptic
[01:10] <Gondlir> I trust you.
[01:10] <petrik> Should you mount before you format or do you format and then mount?
[01:10] <spikeb> petrik: the second
[01:10] <hyphenated> semboy: sudo apt-get update (gets the recent list of packages, then sudo apt-get upgrade (gets the actual packages and installs them)
[01:10] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72, that is not what I asked ;-) there is a reason for what I asked you to do. have you got that window still open
[01:10] <Gypsy_Gal72> yep
[01:11] <aLPHa_LeaK> semboy: apt-get upgrade is the one
[01:11] <richiefrich> Gondlir  do u want anonymous login ?
[01:11] <Gondlir> So I have this file.. and it says "read-only"
[01:11] <Gypsy_Gal72> sorry
[01:11] <Gondlir> Sure I guess..
[01:11] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72, click on Settings and then on Repositories
[01:11] <Gypsy_Gal72> ok
[01:11] <Gypsy_Gal72> ok done that
[01:11] <petrik> Why does it tell me my device is in use by the system then? It does not show as being mounted but it will not let me format
 That didnt do anything - I am still getting the graphic boot screen?
[01:12] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72, okay now click on the Add button
[01:12] <dark_light> alanhs, oops. well...:)
[01:12] <Gypsy_Gal72> ok
[01:12] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72, you see the two unchecked boxes there?
[01:12] <dark_light> alanhs, so i have no idea
[01:12] <dark_light> sorry
[01:12] <zelevw> hi...ive got a server running pptpd...win clients can connect...can ping the pptp server but it doesnt route...ive enabled ipforward=yes in /etc/network/options...what am I missing?
[01:12] <Gypsy_Gal72> yep
[01:12] <Ivaldi> Has anyone here resized FAT32 partitions with GParted?
[01:12] <Gondlir> I cannot edit this .conf it is "read only"
[01:12] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72, check them and click on Ok
[01:13] <Gypsy_Gal72> ok
[01:13] <richiefrich> Gondlir ok here use this config http://pastebin.ca/59303
[01:13] <Gypsy_Gal72> ok done that
[01:13] <alanhs> Anyone else know how to get the detailed output when booting from a dapper install cd, please ?
[01:13] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72, click on your next Ok button then try  your search again
[01:13] <richiefrich> Gondlir save that to /etc/vsftpd.conf
[01:13] <Anusien> ompaul: now, just to update drivers
[01:13] <Gypsy_Gal72> ok ty
[01:13] <ompaul> Anusien, what?
[01:14] <Anusien> You were about to tell me how to take out X temporarily
[01:14] <Gypsy_Gal72> ok now its downloading packages
[01:14] <richiefrich> Gondlir  sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd start
[01:14] <petrik> How can I find out what is using my /dev/hda5?
[01:15] <redguy> can anyone please tell me if there is any difference between apt-get dist-upgrade and update-manager handling of breezy->dapper update ?
[01:15] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72, after that if you don't find something don't just download a package ask in here :-)
[01:15] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72, we may have solutions to the problem in ways you could not imagine
[01:15] <Gypsy_Gal72> ok thanks heaps 4 your help
[01:16] <Gondlir> richie..
[01:16] <Gypsy_Gal72> was just trying 2 gget a viruse protection
[01:16] <Gondlir> it will not let me save...
[01:16] <semboy>  i am un ubuntu dapper -is there a link that can help setup TVOUT  so i can watch on tv and work here ?
[01:16] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72, you don't need it on Linux
[01:16] <Gypsy_Gal72> get*
[01:16] <richiefrich> Gondlir u must be root
[01:16] <ompaul> Anusien, 2 minutes
[01:16] <Anusien> okay, I figured.  I just wanted to make sure
[01:16] <richiefrich> Gondlir sudo  nano -w /etc/vsftpd.conf
[01:17] <richiefrich> Gondlir  sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd start
[01:17] <Gypsy_Gal72> oh ok so does it just run in the back ground or something Im use 2 using windows xp
[01:17] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72,  we just don't face the risks windows does, we don't have the spyware and lots of other stuff
[01:17] <captine> ompaul: what if ur linux box is running e-mail server.  what antivir product is free to scan the incoming mail, before people access there imap mailbox?
[01:17] <richiefrich> Gondlir that helps ?
[01:17] <Gondlir> what's the nano -w?
[01:17] <ompaul> captine, clamav
[01:18] <ompaul> captine, amavis and spamassasin
[01:18] <Gypsy_Gal72> sweet well thanks again off 2 do some more learning wish m luck
[01:18] <captine> ompaul: thns
[01:18] <Gondlir> I'm just trying to get this file saved to the right spot...
[01:18] <elwyn> hi all
[01:18] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72, help.ubuntu.com is good as is wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:18] <ompaul> Anusien, okay ctrl - alt -F1 at the same time
[01:18] <Gypsy_Gal72> ok thanks
[01:19] <ompaul> Anusien, that will drop you to a terminal
[01:19] <Gypsy_Gal72> thanks n cya
[01:19] <elwyn> can some 1 help i cant conect to msn ?
[01:19] <ompaul> Gypsy_Gal72, enjoy
[01:19] <richiefrich> Gondlir  nano -w = a text editor  the -w  =  no word wrap
[01:20] <OvrDriver> mc
[01:21] <quentez> hi everybody
[01:21] <spikeb> OvrDriver: wrong window/console
[01:21] <OvrDriver> yep  lol
[01:21] <_mason> DarkMagez: Can i revert back to the new human theme instead of the crappy new one in xgl
[01:22] <ivan> coud somebody help me
[01:22] <ompaul> _mason, less of the language thanks
[01:22] <ivan> i try to compile mplayer from source
[01:23] <ivan> but i need to install some packages
[01:23] <ompaul> _mason, getting to the G rating cinema style is hard but we manage it
[01:23] <Anusien> ompaul: no, I know that, but the X server is still running
[01:23] <ivan> this package :
[01:23] <ivan> sudo apt-get install x-window-system-dev
[01:23] <Anusien> ivan: mplayer is also very particular about your version of gcc
[01:23] <ivan> is the problem
[01:23] <_mason> Not a problem opaul
[01:23] <Gondlir> ok it said "vsftpd already running."
[01:23] <ivan> yes
[01:23] <_mason> 'ompaul
[01:23] <Gondlir> How do I get the guy to ftp in?
[01:24] <ompaul> _mason, np
[01:24] <Gambaroni^away> ompaul yeah, the screen is just being black.. I let it stand so for 1 hour, nothing happens.. I think it is 5.10
[01:24] <dusty_> Hey guys I have just upgraded from 5 to 6 and when i login to x it gives me a crapp 800x600 resolution I was using 1600x1280 (how come its changed it? the config file xorg.conf has atyed the same), i tried loggin in going to system  settings but it wont let me change it there either the max in there is 1024 x 768 any ideas?
[01:24] <ivan> Amaranth, i do ./configure --disable-gcc-chack
[01:24] <ivan> or something like that
[01:24] <ivan> i use gcc 4.1
[01:24] <Gondlir> richiefrich, still there?
[01:24] <richiefrich> yes
[01:25] <Gondlir> vsftpd already running.
[01:25] <richiefrich> sorry i was in another channel
[01:25] <Gondlir> How do I get this guy access?
[01:25] <richiefrich> so it started ?
[01:25] <Gondlir> =)
[01:25] <Gondlir> It would seem so
[01:25] <ompaul> Anusien, okay, so install a program called "bum" run it - disable gdm then logout of X when you want to restart gdm do>>  /etc/init.d/gdm start << write that one down its a good one ;-)
[01:25] <Anusien> what is gdm?
[01:25] <ompaul> Gambaroni^away, it did not Welcome to Ubuntu 5.10 on that screen it was just black?
[01:26] <_mason> !xgl
[01:26] <ubotu> xgl is, like, "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[01:26] <Gondlir> Alrighty then...
[01:26] <richiefrich> ok then give him your IP,  also make that dir --> sudo  mkdir /public  &&  sudo chmod 777 /public
[01:26] <richiefrich> Gondlir ^^
[01:26] <Gondlir> I would need to add them?
[01:26] <richiefrich> Gondlir yes make those
[01:26] <petrik> trying mkfs tells me /dev/hda5 is apparently in use, will not make file system here? I don't understand. It is not mounted so what is using it?
[01:27] <richiefrich> Gondlir  cause of th=is line anon_root=/public
[01:27] <ompaul> Gambaroni^away, so you might like to try two different things> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions < and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge
[01:27] <Gondlir> ok
[01:27] <richiefrich> Gondlir u can change that lline to whatever u want  --> anon_root=/ANY DIR
[01:27] <richiefrich> Gondlir so u choice
[01:27] <Gondlir> where do I make this directory? I am currently in etc
[01:28] <kempo_> hello all
[01:28] <kempo_> i installed mysql. how do i set up a password?
[01:28] <richiefrich> Gondlir  sudo  mkdir /public  &&  sudo chmod 777 /public
[01:28] <richiefrich> Gondlir  just like that
[01:28] <Anusien> okay that didn't work.  how do I disable gdm?
[01:28] <captine> richiefrich: how would one create an ftp user i.e. for non anonymous use, without them having a /home/user directory?
[01:28] <joey_w00t> I am still having problems installing java. :(
[01:28] <joey_w00t> I read the documentation
[01:28] <Gondlir> Done..
[01:29] <richiefrich> captine for what vsftpd /
[01:29] <Gondlir> Now I give him the IP and he can login?
[01:29] <iskywalker_> hi!
[01:29] <richiefrich> kempo_ ill get u a cmd
[01:29] <kempo_> ok richiefrich
[01:29] <zelevw> hi...ive got a server running pptpd...win clients can connect...can ping the pptp server but it doesnt route...ive enabled ipforward=yes in /etc/network/options...what am I missing?
[01:29] <iskywalker_> hi!
[01:29] <richiefrich> captine  section 6  -->  http://penguinslair.dyndns.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8
[01:29] <ompaul> Anusien, you invoke the program you installed "bum" Menu  System Administration Boot Up Manager and that will do it
[01:29] <captine> richiefrich: yeh, thnks
[01:29] <Gondlir> richiefrich, All he needs is my IP now?
[01:29] <Anusien> I don't have a Boot Up Manager there
[01:30] <ompaul> Anusien, install it
[01:30] <Anusien> what is the package?
[01:30] <kesV> joey_w00t: and the problem is ?
[01:30] <ompaul> Anusien, sudo apt-get install bum
[01:30] <quentez> i need help : i have tried to install ubuntu desktop but i'm not sure that it has been done succefully and i don't know how to start ubuntu desktop after installing it
[01:30] <richiefrich> kempo_    the 1st if for root -->  /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'new-password'    /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root -h arch password 'new-password'
[01:30] <joey_w00t> I can't find the java-package package
[01:30] <ompaul> Anusien, a couple of messages ago: install a program called "bum" run it - disable gdm then logout of X when you want to restart gdm do>>  /etc/init.d/gdm start << write that one down its a good one ;-)
[01:30] <joey_w00t> I have multiverse and universe enabled
[01:30] <richiefrich> Gondlir yes whats he on ?  linux ?
[01:30] <Anusien> I read that, but misunderstood
[01:31] <Gondlir> Windoze
[01:31] <quentez> how can i do ?
[01:31] <ompaul> quentez, do you have a log in screen?
[01:31] <quentez> no : i'm in command line
[01:31] <iskywalker_> when i do host www.myhome.drt i doesnt look at my /etc/hosts. doesnt anyone know why?
[01:31] <richiefrich> Gondlir then tell him to --> start button --> run --> cmd (click ok)  --> ftp  IP
[01:32] <ompaul> quentez, did you install it this way  >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop << ? or as part of an install
[01:32] <richiefrich> Gondlir then tell him the user name and password are both --> anonymous
[01:32] <quentez> i install with sudo apt-get ubuntu desktop
[01:33] <ompaul> quentez,  >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop << note the -
[01:33] <Gondlir> one sec..
[01:33] <Gondlir> They can't use smartFTP ?
[01:33] <quentez> yes but i have already installed it
[01:33] <quentez> (it take 1.30h)
[01:33] <redrum> how to upgrade from hoary to release candidate of dapper? :)
[01:34] <ompaul> quentez, so what kind of video card?
[01:34] <quentez> nvidia fx5200
[01:34] <spikeb> !tell quentez about upgrade
[01:34] <hyphenated> redguy: probably not a good jump to make
[01:34] <hegemon_> redguy, its at the wiki
[01:34] <redrum> ooops *reads topic*
[01:34] <richiefrich> Gondlir he can yes
[01:34] <Gondlir> cool
[01:34] <Gondlir> one sec...
[01:34] <hegemon_> redr, its at the wiki
[01:34] <h3sp4wn> redrum: Upgrade first to breezy then from breezy to dapper
[01:34] <hegemon_> redrum, , its at the wiki
[01:34] <hegemon_> :p
[01:34] <richiefrich> Gondlir i didnt know if he had a client
[01:34] <blizzo> Hi ... fglrx driver is running with X.org. I installed Xgl / compiz etc and it's working but fglrxinfo says ati but fgl_glxgeras doesnt work ;( what can I do?
[01:35] <richiefrich> captine kempo_  those help ?
[01:35] <redrum> do i have to update to breezy and then dapper?
[01:35] <ompaul> quentez, so run this >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <<  only change the setting for the video card to "VESA" or follow all this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:35] <captine> richiefrich: haven't checked.  am getting dsl connection soon.  at the moment, only have 100mb per month connection.  only use for irc with limitted browsing.  Thnks tho
[01:35] <richiefrich> blizzo pastebin your xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:35] <Gondlir> richiefrich, Still there?
[01:36] <richiefrich> Gondlir yes
[01:36] <Gondlir> http://www.smartftp.com/support/kb/index.php/58
[01:36] <ompaul> redguy, the supported route is one step at a time
[01:36] <petrik> Ok I give up. I just can not find out what is using this device and it will not let me format it. Going to wipe the lot and begin again
[01:36] <redrum> what would happen if i manually updated my sources.list from hoary to dapper rc and ran dist-upgrade? :)
[01:36] <ompaul> redrum, the supported route is one step at a time, I would wait until thursday at this stage
[01:37] <amphi> redrum: b0rkage?
[01:37] <quentez> it says that the xserver package isn't installed
[01:37] <richiefrich> captine i can pm u the lines
[01:37] <cappiz> dark_light what????
[01:37] <petrik> If I install the same distro I might see you all again here but right now very tempted to try another
[01:37] <ompaul> redrum, some things might be involved in the big break
[01:37] <petrik> Bye
[01:37] <richiefrich> captine i dont what to paste them in here
[01:37] <captine> richiefrich: thnks.  that would be great
[01:37] <ompaul> petrik, enjoy
[01:37] <Gondlir> richiefrich, Did I do something wrong?
[01:37] <ompaul> richiefrich, paste is paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:38] <richiefrich> Gondlir if u did what i told u it should work..  do u have port 22 open on your router
[01:38] <Gondlir> I'm using a cable modem.
[01:38] <richiefrich> ompaul he said he has limited hours so he dosent use the web
[01:39] <richiefrich> Gondlir no your router  is port 22 open ?
[01:39] <Gondlir> How do I check?
[01:39] <richiefrich> ompaul  <captine> richiefrich: haven't checked.  am getting dsl connection soon.  at the moment, only have 100mb per month connection.  only use for irc with limitted browsing.  Thnks tho
[01:39] <richiefrich> Gondlir try yourself  -->  ftp IP
[01:39] <richiefrich> what do u get ?
[01:39] <tuskernini> naam
[01:40] <richiefrich> captine  u get that
[01:40] <Gondlir> Do that in Terminal?
[01:40] <richiefrich> yes
[01:40] <ompaul> tuskernini, ?
[01:40] <hegemon_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14767
[01:40] <hegemon_> so nice
[01:40] <captine> richiefrich: thnks.  will now try understand it.  heading to the man pages :)
[01:40] <tuskernini> yes
[01:40] <kempo_> i installed mysql and php for apache. but it does not recognize it
[01:40] <Gondlir> ftp: IP: Unknown host
[01:40] <tuskernini> i gotta go work.. sorry wil be back latr. take care
[01:40] <richiefrich> Gondlir enter yout IP
[01:40] <Gondlir> I did
[01:41] <Gondlir> If the router is hardware, I don't have it...
[01:41] <richiefrich> ok do this
[01:41] <pvd2006_> how do you setup a router in linux? I thought you just hooked it up and typed in the ip address for the router in a browser?
[01:41] <blizzo> fglrxinfo : Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0" .... what is that good for?
[01:41] <richiefrich> Gondlir in a browser --> ftp://IP
[01:42] <richiefrich> IP = a number
[01:42] <lucasvo> k
[01:42] <redrum> i am officially stating that linex suks
[01:42] <pvd2006_> well atleast spell it right;)
[01:42] <richiefrich> redrum why ?
[01:42] <Gondlir> No not working
[01:43] <TobiasFar> If i press CTRL+V in code::blocks to paste some text it crashes and exits. I guess that's a unnormal reaction.
[01:43] <richiefrich> are u connted to the canle modem directly ?
[01:43] <Gondlir> I am
[01:44] <kermitX_> pvd2006_: well, there is a distro called "linex" ;)  http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=linex
[01:44] <richiefrich> Gondlir  ok then try this   -->    for X in inet inet6; do netstat -A $X --numeric-hosts --numeric-ports | grep -v 127.0.0.1; done;
[01:44] <richiefrich> in terminal as root
[01:44] <richiefrich> kermitX_ good one i didnt know that
[01:45] <Gondlir> how do I become root?
[01:45] <ompaul> !root
[01:45] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:45] <richiefrich> sudo -Hs
[01:45] <kermitX_> it's even deb based. ;)
[01:45] <richiefrich> lol
[01:45] <semboy>  i am un ubuntu dapper -is there a link that can help setup TVOUT  so i can watch on tv and work here ?
[01:45] <twibbler> could someone tell me the repository for MTSFONTS please.
[01:46] <richiefrich> Gondlir sorry i meant port 21  not 22
[01:46] <richiefrich> 21 = ftp
[01:46] <kermitX_> msttcorefonts is in ubuntu's multiverse.
[01:46] <Gondlir> that command up there.. can I put sudo infront of it?
[01:47] <twibbler> kermitX: thank you.
[01:47] <stephan84> does unbuntu use the same pkgs as debian
[01:47] <ompaul> semboy, this is not the dapper channel you should know that at this stage, come back on Friday ;-) the day after the release it will be too busy here on Thursday
[01:47] <richiefrich> Gondlir u can also check here --> http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2    and click --> all service ports
[01:47] <tarzeau> i've got a hard flickering (3 lines like in the screenshot) with this driver; bttv card=24 tuner=1 pll=1 radio=1 , http://www.linuks.mine.nu/flicker.png any tips ?
[01:47] <ompaul> stephan84, no, don't use them directly
[01:48] <ompaul> stephan84, it sources and polishes things from SID
[01:48] <stephan84> ompaul, oh ok...im installing now
[01:48] <ompaul> stephan84, menu system - settings - repos and enable universe and multiverse
[01:49] <Gondlir> richiefrich, that took me to something called "shields up"?
[01:49] <richiefrich> yes
[01:49] <stephan84> ompaul,
[01:49] <Gondlir> I do not see "all service ports"
[01:49] <stephan84> ompaul, oops, oh ok
[01:49] <richiefrich> it tests open ports
[01:49] <stephan84> ompaul, know anything about setting up nviida on it
[01:50] <ompaul> !tell stephan84 about nvidia
[01:50] <richiefrich> Gondlir do u see   Proceed ?
[01:50] <ompaul> stephan84, say hello to ubotu ;-)
[01:50] <stephan84> !tell ompaul thanks
[01:50] <stephan84> :p
[01:51] <Gondlir> richiefrich, I see home, purchasing, tech support, mailing list, projects, free stuff, discussions
[01:51] <richiefrich> ShieldsUP!!  Services
[01:52] <richiefrich> u see that ^^
[01:52] <richiefrich> in a blue bart ?\
[01:52] <richiefrich> bar
[01:52] <ompaul> richiefrich, your assuming same theme etc
[01:52] <richiefrich> ompaul ?
[01:53] <stephan84> ok im off to install
[01:53] <ompaul> richiefrich, blue bars - kde blue gnome brown xfce well we think it is blue but the jury is still out ;-)
[01:53] <richiefrich> ompaul no man it's a web page
[01:53] <richiefrich> it look the same for everyone
[01:53] <ompaul> richiefrich, /me falls on his sword ;-)
[01:54] <Gondlir> richiefrich, this is what I see http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c143/LDS_Trooper/shields.png
[01:54] <richiefrich> https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
[01:54] <joey_w00t> do I install the java .deb which I created using sudo?
[01:54] <richiefrich> go there press  proceed
[01:55] <joey_w00t> like this: sudo dpkg -i [filename here] 
[01:55] <joey_w00t> or would that mess things up
[01:55] <amphi> richiefrich: not t3h gibs0n!
[01:55] <richiefrich> ompaul yes he's great
[01:55] <amphi> richiefrich: hahaha
[01:55] <richiefrich> ompaul very good for security
[01:56] <Gondlir> ok...
[01:56] <Gondlir> there...
[01:56] <Gondlir> All service ports?
[01:56] <richiefrich> Gondlir yes
[01:56] <richiefrich> Gondlir what's it show for port 21 ?
[01:57] <richiefrich> Gondlir and u also see your IP too
[01:57] <Gondlir> on the grid it goes 0 - 31 and they are all stealth
[01:57] <richiefrich> so all green ?
[01:57] <amphi> teh stealth?
[01:57] <Anusien> okay, it looks like I need to recompile my kernel.  How do I go about learning to do that?
[01:58] <Gondlir> All green
[01:58] <kuja> Why do you have to recompile your kernel?
[01:58] <richiefrich> Gondlir  then u must opne it, i dont know how in ubuntu..
[01:58] <richiefrich> Gondlir unless u have a router
[01:58] <Gondlir> oh crap
[01:58] <amphi> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/25/steve_gibson_invents_broken_syncookies/
[01:58] <richiefrich> ubuntu must close that by default
[01:58] <Gondlir> all that for nothing...
[01:58] <Gondlir> lol
[01:58] <richiefrich> Gondlir  let me google
[01:58] <Anusien> kuja: appearantly it's necessary to get wifi going
[01:59] <kuja> Is it? Are you sure the necessary module doesn't exist already prebuilt?
[01:59] <kuja> You can make sure by checking `modutils`
[01:59] <kuja> err, run `modconf`
[01:59] <richiefrich> Gondlir do u have any red ones ?
[02:00] <richiefrich> Gondlir on that chart?  u can change the ftp port..
[02:00] <Anusien> modconf doesn't work either
[02:00] <senobuntu> hallo
[02:00] <Gondlir> The entire grid is green
[02:00] <kuja> Anusien: And what do you mean by "doesn't work?"
[02:00] <Anusien> It's the broadcom 34xx driver, and it's supposed ot be in the kernel by default, but it seems not to be
[02:00] <captine> Gondlir: what u mean by stealth.  are you testing ur firewall
[02:00] <Anusien> 'modconf': command not found
[02:00] <senobuntu> im SK
[02:00] <Gondlir> I have firestarter..
[02:00] <ubuntu> ds
[02:00] <Gondlir> I forgot all about it...
[02:01] <kuja> Anusien: sudo apt-get install modconf
[02:01] <richiefrich> Gondlir  then open the port man firestarter.
[02:01] <richiefrich> 21
[02:01] <kuja> Anusien: Ubuntu kernels come built with most kernel modules.
[02:01] <kuja> All you have to do is find the module and simply load it.
[02:01] <Anusien> okay, how do I find the module?  I know what it's supposed to be called
[02:01] <ubuntu> I'm a beginner of ubuntu.. Please teach me ubuntu
[02:02] <kuja> Anusien: Well, what you want to do is, install modconf and find it through there.
[02:02] <ubuntu> hi
[02:02] <kuja> Anusien: If you know what it's called, then looking for it through modconf should be no problem.
[02:02] <richiefrich> Anusien modprobe -l
[02:02] <ompaul> ubuntu, visit https://help.ubuntu.com it is a good place to start
[02:02] <ubuntu> thank
[02:02] <ubuntu> ;)
[02:02] <cocox> hi, any of u know how can i acces to a hidden folder in my /home/user/ ???
[02:02] <Anusien> it's not there
[02:03] <cocox> where is so
[02:03] <kuja> Anusien: What's the module name?
[02:03] <Anusien> bcm43xx
[02:04] <kuja> Anusien: That's impossible. It's there.
[02:04] <phrizer> cocox, view/show hidden files?
[02:04] <kuja> I only say this because I have several Ubuntu kernels and they *all* have that module.
[02:04] <Anusien> I don't see it.  How do I make sure it's on my computer?
[02:04] <Gondlir> richiefrich, just trying to figure out how to open this port...
[02:04] <kuja> Anusien: It's not that you don't see it, you're looking in the wrong place. How are you finding it?>
[02:04] <ubuntu> bye guys
[02:04] <richiefrich> Anusien modprobe -l  | more
[02:04] <Anusien> I just recently did an upgrade to dapper (1 hr, maybe) so I know I'm current
[02:04] <ubuntu> have a nice day
[02:04] <captine> !firestarter
[02:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[02:04] <Gondlir> I stopped my firewall and it now says the port is closed...
[02:04] <Anusien> modprobe -l | grep bcm
[02:05] <richiefrich> Gondlir u can disable firestarter
[02:05] <richiefrich> Anusien that = too
[02:05] <Gondlir> I did..
[02:05] <captine> richiefrich: didn't realize there was a firewall frontend.  cool
[02:05] <kuja> kuja@shugotenshi:~$ modprobe -l | grep bcm
[02:05] <kuja> /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko
[02:05] <Anusien> but it's just not there
[02:05] <richiefrich> ok rerun that  test
[02:05] <Gondlir> now Shields Up says the port is closed
[02:05] <Anusien> like, I know what SHOULD be there, but it's not.  So how do I get it?
[02:05] <kuja> I'm running 2.6.15-23-386, as you can see.
[02:05] <kuja> (on Dapper, of course)
[02:05] <richiefrich> Gondlir then u must open it in ubuntu
[02:06] <ompaul> !dapper
[02:06] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[02:06] <Gondlir> Trying to find out how...
[02:06] <Anusien> Son of a...
[02:06] <Anusien> It didn't update my kernel, even when I told it tp
[02:06] <Anusien> !update
[02:06] <ubotu> Anusien: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:06] <kuja> cocox: From the file browser, go to View->Show Hidden Files
[02:06] <Anusien> !upgrade
[02:06] <ubotu> [upgrade]  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[02:07] <ompaul> Anusien, you need to reboot after you do that
[02:07] <skwashd> hi all
[02:07] <Anusien> that might be it too
[02:07] <Anusien> although I thought I did
[02:07] <skwashd> i dunno if this should be discussed here on +1 or somewhere else ... so i will try here first
[02:07] <cocox> phrizer, kuja i mean by the terminal
[02:07] <pepster> where can I find a list of apt repositories?
[02:07] <skwashd> will any rosetta translations done now make it into dapper?
[02:07] <kuja> cocox: ls -a will show you hidden files/directories.
[02:08] <pepster> for dapper :)
[02:08] <skwashd> if not what is the point in translating anything else for dapper
[02:08] <skwashd> ?
[02:08] <Anusien> okay, brb
[02:08] <skwashd> pepster: just s/breezy/dapper on your current sources ... need more info try #ubuntu+1
[02:09] <Gondlir> Any ideas on how to open and close a specific port in Ubuntu
[02:09] <cocox> kuja, i know how to list them... i want to know how can i acces to them
[02:09] <pepster> I temporarily moved from new zealand to israel and want "closer" repositories :)
[02:09] <Sweet_kate> hello
[02:09] <kuja> cocox: They're just regular files with a period before them; Treat them as such.
[02:09] <richiefrich> Gondlir restart vsftpd
[02:10] <richiefrich> Gondlir    sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart
[02:10] <kuja> cocox: As you may have noticed, you stump me when you ask how to "access" a hidden file because 1) They're just like regular files, nothing different and 2) There are many ways to "access" a file.
[02:10] <cocox> kuja, im trying to do this sudo cd /.themes and i get an error message....
[02:10] <skwashd> pepster: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive#nz
[02:11] <skwashd> whoops ... drop the #nz ... it doesn;t work :(
[02:11] <kuja> cocox: Uh, / is not your home directory.
[02:11] <skwashd> search for new in he page
[02:11] <kuja> ~ represents the current user's home directory.
[02:11] <elsie-dee> can someone help me? i am having trouble using scp
[02:11] <cocox> kuja, yeah im there ~
[02:11] <elsie-dee> it will not accept my password for some reason
[02:11] <kuja> kuja@shugotenshi:~$ ls ~/.themes
[02:11] <kuja> Alphacube GTK 0.5  Clearlooks-DarkOrange   Glossy P           quark
[02:11] <kuja> .. .. ..
[02:11] <pepster> thanks! will look at that
[02:12] <skwashd> pepster: np
[02:12] <Almenfors> whats the command to ad users to samba?
[02:12] <Gondlir> yep all closed exept port 80 for www
[02:12] <Labyrinth> wow, that's many people inside here O.o
[02:12] <Labyrinth> hi all
[02:12] <phrizer> kuja, so type 'cd .themes'
[02:12] <skwashd> elsie-dee: do you have access to the box you are trying to scp files to ?
[02:12] <kuja> kuja@shugotenshi:~$ cd .themes
[02:12] <kuja> kuja@shugotenshi:~/.themes$
[02:13] <cocox> kuja, pretty weird... i was on ~ , i just quit and came again and it works... than u :)
[02:13] <kuja> You're welcome. It's not weird, it's just that you did something wrong.
[02:13] <phrizer> kuja, sorry, that was meant for cocox
[02:13] <kuja> Now you're on the right track.
[02:14] <cocox> kuja, yes thanks ;)
[02:14] <cocox> phrizer, meant ??
[02:14] <phrizer> cocox, nevermind, it seems you have it sorted now.
[02:14] <chronoh> hi
[02:15] <richiefrich> Gondlir   connect_from_port_80
[02:16] <Gondlir> sound cool..
[02:16] <richiefrich> add that to that file --> /etc/VSFTPD.CONF
[02:16] <michal_> smoq!!!!
[02:16] <Gondlir> how?
[02:17] <richiefrich> Gondlir  sudo echo connect_from_port_80 >> /etc/vsftd.conf
[02:17] <richiefrich> Gondlir    sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart
[02:17] <Almenfors> whats the command to ad users to samba?
[02:18] <Gondlir> bash: /etc/vsftd.conf: Permission denied
[02:18] <Gondlir> fun huh?
[02:18] <richiefrich> Gondlir sudo -Hs
[02:18] <richiefrich> Gondlir  echo connect_from_port_80 >> /etc/vsftd.conf
[02:18] <richiefrich> Gondlir   /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart
[02:19] <Gondlir> sudo: please use single character options
[02:19] <chronoh> I have a little annoying problem, I'm with Ubuntu hoary runing on a hp nx9010...sometimes, without touch nothing on gnome desktop, the environment starts to popup the screenshot utility...my keayboard locks lately...someone experience the same problem? thanks
[02:19] <chronoh> :)
[02:19] <Labyrinth> hello, people. As described here: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=4679.msg19074#msg19074 my (shipped, not burnt) live cd of breezy hung up with "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System". Can you tell me if there are such changes in the bootup that I can hope to have this fixed in Dapper?
[02:19] <Labyrinth> Thank you
[02:20] <Gondlir> richiefrich,
[02:20] <richiefrich> Gondlir did u do --> sudo -Hs
[02:20] <Gondlir> yes and then it says "sudo: please use single character options"
[02:20] <richiefrich> Gondlir  sudo nano -w /etc/vsftd.conf
[02:21] <richiefrich> add that line then  --> connect_from_port_80
[02:21] <stephan__> back and on ubuntu :)
[02:21] <stephan__> and in love
[02:22] <Mongrol> does anyone know a way to get the App menu to appear on left click on the desktop (*box style)?
[02:22] <vinboy> hi
[02:22] <Labyrinth> ... has anyone read my post? :D
[02:23] <Labyrinth> anyone of those capable of helping, that is ;)
[02:23] <vinboy> during my linux startup, when it run my reiser fs, it prints a bunch of numbers and says "not automatically fixing this"
[02:23] <richiefrich> Gondlir   how's it going
[02:23] <stephan__> !tell stephan__ nvidia
[02:23] <stephan__> :/
[02:24] <Gondlir> hmm
[02:24] <nocturn> Hi all
[02:24] <stephan__> someone tell me nvidia plz
[02:24] <stephan__> !tell me nvidia
[02:24] <richiefrich> Gondlir whta  ?
[02:24] <Gondlir> Still not letting me connect via the browser ftp://####
[02:25] <Gondlir> where #### is my IP
[02:25] <richiefrich> ftp://####:80
[02:25] <Labyrinth> so many people inside here and nobody answering -.-
[02:25] <richiefrich> Gondlir it says on that test site
[02:25] <nocturn> Anyone using gnome-xchat?
[02:26] <nocturn> on Dapper?
[02:26] <richiefrich> Gondlir do u have your IP?   right
[02:26] <Gondlir> I got it through IP Chicken
[02:27] <stephan__> nocturn, im using xchat on gnome but whats dapper
[02:27] <nocturn> dapper is Ubuntu 6.06
[02:27] <nocturn> stephan__: do the plugins work for you?
[02:27] <kermitX_> stephan__: where *have* you been the last 7 months? ;)
[02:27] <stephan__> nocturn, im just on 5.10
[02:27] <Gondlir> So I am trying ftp://####:80 where #### is my IP and firefox is on the loading icon
[02:28] <Gondlir> and staying there...
[02:28] <stephan__> kermitX_, what lol ?
[02:28] <NeddySeagoon> Gondlir, just  ftp://IP
[02:28] <Almenfors> anyone have a ftp server to recomend. with gui.
[02:28] <nocturn> stephan__: on 5.10, wasn't xchat plain the default?
[02:28] <NeddySeagoon> Gondlir, :80 gets you a webserver if there is one
[02:29] <stephan__> nocturn, yes, i believe so
[02:29] <richiefrich> NeddySeagoon welcome
[02:29] <stephan__> nocturn, i just installed 5.10 about 10 minutes ago for the first time....hows dapper
[02:29] <Gondlir> ftp://IP gets me nowhere
[02:29] <nocturn> Hey, they started working!
[02:30] <nocturn> both OSD and the tray plugin only fire when xchat doesn't have focus!
[02:30] <richiefrich> NeddySeagoon i told him the steve gibson site to check ports
[02:30] <Anusien> test
[02:30] <NeddySeagoon> Gondlir, It is a public IP ?  not 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x ?  Are you already NATed
[02:30] <zelevw> hi...how can i change the port sshd listens on? thanks
[02:30] <stephan__> hmm :/
[02:30] <nocturn> stephan__: Dapper is great
[02:31] <Anusien> woo, I have wireless... almost
[02:31] <stephan__> nocturn, ill get the hang of this for a bit then ill try it :)
[02:31] <Gondlir> I have no clue
[02:31] <nocturn> has been stable for more then a month
[02:31] <richiefrich> Gondlir NeddySeagoon will help u, i must eat :)
[02:31] <Labyrinth> is there anything (already) known to change from the current RC to the final release?
[02:31] <Gondlir> ip starts with a 68
[02:31] <stephan__> nocturn, sweet
[02:31] <NeddySeagoon> Gondlir, Tell us the first two broups of numbers in your IP
[02:31] <Gondlir> richiefrich, thanx a million
[02:31] <Gondlir> 68.148
[02:32] <Anusien> So what software is recommended for playing mp3s?
[02:32] <richiefrich> Gondlir np NeddySeagoon is GREAT help
[02:32] <Spaceraver> now this is wierd... when trying to reboot my pc hangs at deactivating swap...
[02:32] <NeddySeagoon> Gondlir, Thats OK - its public
[02:32] <nocturn> stephan__: I really recommend the upgrade, specially for a laptop
[02:32] <Anusien> yes, the upgrade is incredible
[02:32] <Gondlir> all ports are closed except 80
[02:32] <richiefrich> Gondlir  hosts.allow and hosts.deny
[02:32] <stephan__> nocturn, just a desktop...but ill defently do it
[02:32] <richiefrich> Gondlir in /etc
[02:33] <nocturn> stephan__: one advice
[02:33] <nocturn> Do the upgrade either at preview time or a couple of days after release
[02:33] <stephan__> ok
[02:33] <nocturn> because the servers are dead slow at the release date
[02:33] <stephan__> yea and it will give me alittle time to get use to it
[02:34] <stephan__> big change from slackware :/
[02:34] <stephan__> but i like it hehe
[02:34] <Anusien> but weird, it's not reading my volume softkeys properly
[02:34] <Gondlir> I have their IP.. does that help me?
[02:34] <nocturn> stephan__: I came to 4.10 from Gentoo
[02:34] <NeddySeagoon> Gondlir, see your /query
[02:35] <nocturn> big difference
[02:35] <Anusien> and it was before
[02:35] <laga> hi guys. i have a dedicated server running a fresh install of debian sarge and i'd like to install dapper drake on it. is there an easy way to upgrade sarge to ubuntu? i also have access to some kind of rescue system where i could probably use debootstrap to install dapper, but i'm not sure what's the better option
[02:35] <Gronk> hey - If i've installed  game, & its showing as installed in the Package manager... how do I make it show in the Applications menu bar????
[02:35] <stephan__> nocturn, like this better?
[02:35] <Gondlir> Neddy.. I am extremely new at the...
[02:35] <Gondlir> er this
[02:35] <nocturn> stephan__: Definately
[02:36] <Paradoxx> How can I go about logging into my machine remotely? (I need a GUI etc as well)
[02:36] <NeddySeagoon> Gondlir, Please /join ##NeddySeagoon
[02:36] <nocturn> Almost as fast as Gentoo
[02:36] <stephan__> nocturn, yea....i was suprised how everything worked with the install....i just need to get nvidia working
[02:36] <Gambaroni^away> ompaul ok, i will look on that. No not welcome.. Just black.
[02:36] <nocturn> stephan__: It worked for me by just selecting the drivers from the repos
[02:36] <Paradoxx> How can I go about logging into my machine remotely? (I need a GUI etc as well)
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> lega: I did what you are suggesting just using apt and it worked fine (But its not recommended I don't think) had to sort a few dependancies as well
[02:37] <dusty_> Hey guys im running the latest firefox with kubuntu 6 and when I view texts on sites etc i have to highlight the text to read it because its invisible otherwise, anyone know how to fix this, its extremely annoying
[02:37] <stephan__> nocturn, what do u mean...:p
[02:37] <rixxon> Paradoxx: System/something here, easy to find
[02:37] <nocturn> stephan__: the nvidia drivers
[02:37] <nocturn> I had to work a bit on ndiswrapper, but that's all
[02:37] <stephan__> nocturn, i noticed it installed the nvidia-glx drivers
[02:37] <rixxon> Paradoxx: im not currently on ubuntu but i found it without even looking ;)
[02:37] <nocturn> all other hardware was fine
[02:38] <Gambaroni^away> ompaul so to do this i need to install again?
[02:38] <stephan__> nocturn, how do i select em though
[02:38] <Labyrinth> Wine's AppDB says, Heroes of Might and Magic V runs fine on Gentoo ( http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=4905&iTestingId=3478 ).
[02:38] <Labyrinth> Is it probable it runs on Dapper as well?
[02:38] <Labyrinth> if not: why?
[02:38] <ompaul> dusty_, #kubuntu or #ubuntu+1 for dapper conversations
[02:38] <Paradoxx> rixxon: yea, but i want to log in from my windows machine
[02:38] <nocturn> stephan__: Did you install restricted-modules too.
[02:38] <Almenfors> has anyone had this problem with repos that he tries to access the cdrom instead of the net?
[02:38] <stephan__> nocturn, i saw it install it in the install let me check
[02:38] <ompaul> Gambaroni^away, well it might be faster to press esc when the machine tries to boot and use some of those switches on boot options
[02:39] <rixxon> Paradoxx: oh, install some vnc server?
[02:39] <neck_> its not a problem Almenfors ...
[02:39] <Gambaroni^away> ompaul ahh.. okey.. thanks
[02:39] <dusty_> ompaul, Ok, I dont think its anything to do with dapper though, the reason I upgraded to dapper was a suggestion in here that it might fix my firefox problem, and it hasn't.
[02:39] <stephan__> nocturn, umm lol this is  gonna sound crazy
[02:39] <aLPHa_LeaK> Almenfors: edit the sources.list file and delete the line with the cdrom
[02:39] <stephan__> nocturn, i dont know my su password it didnt give a  chance to set it
[02:40] <Labyrinth> what's the difference between sudo and gksudo?
[02:40] <Spaceraver> hmmm i need to check my filesystem... sudo fsck??
[02:40] <nocturn> stephan__: was your user created during the install?
[02:40] <stephan__> yea
[02:40] <Gambaroni^away> ompaul witch option do you think i need to enter?
[02:41] <nocturn> stephan__: Ubuntu does not set a root password, you can use sudo
[02:41] <neck_> stephan__,  your username passwd will be your sudo password
[02:41] <Paradoxx> rixxon: you recommend any?
[02:41] <rixxon> Paradoxx: don't quite have any experiance with vnc on linux, just know it works :P
[02:41] <Paradoxx> rixxon: kk, thx
[02:42] <ompaul> dusty_, so that looks like a rather simple setting if it is only firefox
[02:42] <ompaul> Gambaroni^away, start at the top and work your down
[02:42] <Gambaroni^away> ompaul okey, thanks again!
[02:43] <stephan__> nocturn, ok im in the repos but its not finding the " linux-restricted-modules "
[02:43] <Paradoxx> !vnc
[02:43] <ubotu> methinks vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[02:43] <h3sp4wn> Paradoxx: Freenx works alot better (expecially over WAN) seveas has packages for it for breezy
[02:43] <Paradoxx> h3sp4wn: what about on the windows side?
[02:43] <Seveas> h3sp4wn, for dapper too ;)
[02:43] <rixxon> h3sp4wn: is there a client for windows
[02:44] <Paradoxx> !Freenx
[02:44] <ubotu> hmm... freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[02:44] <dusty_> ompaul, i have played with firefox settings to no avail.
[02:44] <stephan__> nocturn, ok i need the restricted in my sources
[02:44] <Seveas> there is a windows client for freenx
[02:44] <Seveas> (and a mac one, and a solaris one)
[02:44] <Seveas> and even a browser plugin
[02:44] <Paradoxx> thx
[02:44] <Paradoxx> hehe, nice
[02:44] <nocturn> stephan__: yes
[02:45] <Paradoxx> Seveas: hmm, what if i just wanted a command prompt on the server machine, how would i go about that?
[02:45] <h3sp4wn> Seveas: The upgrade path from the breezy version to the dapper version was not smooth (didn't really use it much so I haven't bothered gettting it working again yet)
[02:45] <Seveas> Paradoxx, ssh
[02:46] <Seveas> h3sp4wn, hmm, it shouldn't be
[02:46] <ompaul> Seveas, and your not telling him to be quite :-)
[02:46] <Paradoxx> from windows?
[02:46] <Seveas> h3sp4wn, it would help if you can tell me what errors you got 
[02:46] <Seveas> Paradoxx, putty
[02:46] <ompaul> Paradoxx, a windows program called putty - seek install run and be a little free
[02:46] <Seveas> (putty is an ssh client for windows)
[02:46] <Paradoxx> kk
[02:47] <Anusien> Frustrating...
[02:47] <stephan__> nocturn, deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted.....its already their
[02:48] <stephan__> brb i think i got it
[02:48] <Anusien> what is the latetst kernel?
[02:48] <Seveas> Anusien, in dapper: 2.6.15-23
[02:48] <Paradoxx> neone have a laptop or desktop that uses an ATi graphics card? If so , do they experience any problems with it?
[02:49] <Anusien> Why can't I find the source for that kernel?
[02:49] <Seveas> Paradoxx, yes I have one and no, I don't have problems except usplash being garbled with certain vga= parameters
[02:49] <Seveas> Anusien, apt-get source linux-source-2.6.15
[02:49] <Almenfors> baah why cant i get it to work again grrrr damn repositories.. for some reson hes trying to go to "cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages)"  ??   whyyyyy
[02:49] <Anusien> this nvidia patch is cranky
[02:49] <Paradoxx> Seveas: do you use xgl or any of the gui add ons
[02:49] <h3sp4wn> Seveas: I will investigate it a little bit (I don't have anything to start it in init.d anymore - If thats where it was originally started from)
[02:50] <Seveas> Paradoxx, I used XGL a while ago. Rubbish 
[02:50] <Paradoxx> Seveas: why you say that?
[02:50] <Seveas> h3sp4wn, nx has no running daemon but uses ssh. It was never started from init
[02:50] <Anusien> THanks.  I really need to get out of 800x600 land
[02:50] <Seveas> Paradoxx, to much CPU eating for too little usefulness
[02:50] <stephan__> back
[02:51] <stephan__> and no glx support :/
[02:51] <Paradoxx> Seveas: i c.... what Ati card you have?
[02:51] <Seveas> mobility 9600
[02:51] <Paradoxx> and CPU if you don mind me askin
[02:51] <Nolt> hello
[02:51] <Nolt> anybody here ?
[02:52] <Almenfors> anyone with time to help me out with a problem? =/
[02:52] <Seveas> pentium M 1.6
[02:52] <Paradoxx> Seveas: CPU??
[02:52] <Paradoxx> kk
[02:52] <Anusien> hrm, still won't work
[02:53] <Paradoxx> im thinking about buying this laptop...
[02:53] <Paradoxx> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16834115224
[02:53] <h3sp4wn> Seveas: I used to have this nx runner thing running all the time (from freenx) now after upgrading freenx (when I login via ssh /bin/bash /usr/lib/nx/nxserver -c /usr/lib/nx/nxserver) briefly then authentication failed
[02:53] <Nolt> who can explame to me download page of dapper drake ? I want download normal install cd what shall i choice ? Alternative install ??
[02:53] <ltibor65> Hi Seveas, how can I see that a firewall runs under Ubuntu? What command need  I use?
[02:53] <Paradoxx> so, i just trying to see if if il run into any problem
[02:53] <Seveas> ltibor65, iptables -L
[02:53] <merle> Hi
[02:53] <Nolt> please ?
[02:54] <Nolt> I want download normal install cd like usually
[02:54] <Nolt> what shall I choice /
[02:54] <linuxboy> how do I make Nautilus not preview pdf files ?
[02:54] <merle> I need help with getting dhcp to work on a router in a modem device
[02:54] <ompaul> Nolt, please do not repeat I was going to answer but wrote this in its place I will now compose an answer for you
[02:55] <Kyral> Nolt: Define "normal" (I find that word an oxymoron unto itself :P)
[02:55] <Nolt> hehe
[02:55] <Tuzlo> Morning, I had to wipe a windows machine, (UBUNTU boix hasnt changed) cant send mail from windows machine outbound now. I can telnet to ports 25 and 110. Any Ideas?
[02:55] <merle> I need help with getting dhcp to work on a router in a modem device
[02:55] <Kyral> Tuzlo: Sounds Like a Windows Problem (Copyleft) :P
[02:55] <Nolt> so 5.10 had Install CD and desktop CD
[02:55] <Kyral> on a side note good morning
[02:55] <Nolt> i want 6.06 Install CD
[02:56] <Nolt> and there is server and alternate
[02:56] <Kyral> Nolt: wait until June 1st for Dapper Installs
[02:56] <Nolt> both for instalation
[02:56] <laga> Kyral: why?
[02:56] <Kyral> or download the Release Canidate
[02:56] <ltibor65> Thanks, Seveas, and how can I know that it runs normally?
[02:56] <Kyral> laga: because thats when it does stable?
[02:56] <Paradoxx> Seveas: how is the 64bit version of ubuntu? worth the upgrade?
[02:56] <ompaul> Nolt, there is https://cdimage.ubuntu.com in there you can track the release in its last days, I would suggest that you take the latest or yesterdays (if your bandwidth is really low) and download it you need to burn this image onto the disk as a "cd image" NOT a file
[02:56] <Seveas> Paradoxx, no idea, never used it
[02:56] <Nolt> Kyral: so this candidate isnt stable yet ?
[02:57] <Paradoxx> neone have any experience with 64bit verion of ubuntu?
[02:57] <Kyral> Nolt: Dapper is not technically stable
[02:57] <Kyral> !dapper
[02:57] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[02:57] <laga> Kyral: yeah. but i suppose the latest RC and an apt-get upgrade should be OK, too. we're only a few days away from the release
[02:57] <Nolt> ok thx
[02:57] <Nolt> i have beta installed anyway
[02:57] <Nolt> but i thod this candidate is good now
[02:57] <laga> ah, thanks for the info
[02:57] <Nolt> ok thx
[02:57] <Kyral> laga: I dunno I personally don't use Ubuntu anymore (except on a server)
[02:57] <Nolt> and cya
[02:57] <Kyral> so I keep it at Breezy
[02:58] <Tuzlo> Kyral: yeah, mail names are both set though and I can telnet to the servers
[02:58] <Kyral> Tuzlo: can you send from Linux?
[02:58] <ompaul> Paradoxx, it is suggested by some that you should not use 64bit for the desktop you really won't get the benefit and it will get in the way of doing lots of stuff, but it can be personally satisfying to do soemthing hard so if you have enough disk space why not install both and compare and contrast for yourself
[02:58] <Paradoxx> Kyral: why dont you?
[02:58] <Kyral> Paradoxx: oy, in a word, I got bored :P
[02:58] <Kyral> Paradoxx: I wanted to try something new :P
[02:58] <Spaceraver> meh... why do i have to run dpkg --configure all the time??
[02:59] <Paradoxx> Kyral: what you useing now?
[02:59] <Kyral> Paradoxx: so I switched to ArchLinux
[02:59] <Paradoxx> ompaul: kk, thx much
[02:59] <Kyral> though right now my desktop is living off a LiveCD because I have badblocks on one of my partitions which is preventing a clean boot
[02:59] <Tuzlo> Kyral: havent checked today, but it worked last week.
[02:59] <Kyral> Damn Small Linux FTW
[02:59] <Kyral> :P
[02:59] <merle> I need help with getting dhcp to work on a router in a modem device
[02:59] <Paradoxx> Kyral: Archlinux whats so speacial about that disto?
[03:00] <popey> Kyral: http://ftw.popey.com/ \o/
[03:00] <ompaul> !offtopic
[03:00] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[03:00] <rixxon> i wonder is there some graphical scp client?
[03:00] <merle> I need help with getting dhcp to work on a router in a modem device
[03:00] <Kyral> Paradoxx: I'll just link you to the "Arch vs. Ubuntu" portion of their Wiki
[03:00] <Kyral> which explains it quite well
[03:00] <Paradoxx> kk
[03:00] <Dybber> How do I compile from a tarball? Im trying to install these nForce drivers: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0248.html but i dont know how i compile it :)
[03:00] <Kyral> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_vs_Others#Arch_vs_Ubuntu
[03:01] <Paradoxx> soz for offtopic ompaul
[03:01] <cocox> anyone knows how can i change the right and left side of my top panel in gnome ?? i already changed the middle one but when i do right click over the left or right panel im not getting any "properties" option
[03:01] <ompaul> Kyral, Paradoxx please move there that conversation is not for here
[03:01] <Spaceraver> argh... issuing a halt or reboot command makes the machine stop at Deactivating Swap... any ideas??
[03:01] <Kyral> ompaul: sorry, he asked :P
[03:02] <Spaceraver> Kyral... c'mon were jumping to offtopic
[03:02] <ompaul> Kyral, yeah well move over the other place is open minded enough  ;-)
[03:02] <d2812> I'm currently trying to set a pdf printer. I've installed cups-pdf, but cant see any options for a PDF printer when I goto add new printer. any suggestions?
[03:02] <angelus> hola a todo el mundo
[03:02] <stephan__> i just installed th nvidia drivers just a the wiki said and i get a missing dislpay on 0.0 and couldnt find rgb glx visual.....anyone know how to fix this
[03:02] <Kyral> !es
[03:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:03] <angelus> ok i try it
[03:03] <h3sp4wn> seveas: I have got it working again had to run nxsetup again (Also ssh needs to be bound to all interfaces or the setup fails) other than it was relatively clean
[03:03] <ompaul> !es
[03:03] <ompaul> doh
[03:03] <Seveas> !+es
[03:03] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:03] <Kyral> lol
[03:06] <Almenfors> anyone got a ftp server to recomend? with gui?
[03:07] <Paradoxx> Seveas: how do I allow ssh connections
[03:07] <Seveas> apt-get install openssh-server
[03:08] <Paradoxx> kk
[03:08] <david__> I am currently using Dapper Drake. Whenver I try to upgrade the ia32-libs package it gives me the following error:
[03:08] <david__> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_1.4ubuntu18_amd64.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[03:08] <stephan__> ok i got glx working.....im in love
[03:08] <david__> Does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:08] <Paradoxx> !tell david__ about !dapper
[03:09] <david__> ?
[03:09] <david__> Should I be in a different channel?
[03:09] <Paradoxx> yep
[03:09] <Paradoxx> see title
[03:10] <Paradoxx> david__: #ubuntu+1
[03:10] <david__> thanks
[03:10] <kane777>  tap: connect() failed 111 (Connection refused)  Any ideas on how to solve this????
[03:11] <ompaul> kane777, what were you trying to do when tap failed, ask the channel as I don't think I will know the answer
[03:11] <Anusien> I did an apt-get source to get the current kernel source, how do I find what directed that's in?
[03:11] <Anusien> s/directed/directory
[03:11] <kane777> ompaul, I'm trying to set up the hamachi... which is basicaly a vpn soft
[03:11] <ompaul> Anusien, /usr/src
[03:12] <ompaul> kane777, I don't know it, I did say ask the channel, when it comes to VPNs all I know is OpenVPN and I don't think about it I just use the info on their FAQ it just works ;-)
[03:13] <Anusien> hrm, /usr/src is empty
[03:13] <Anusien> it would be "apt-get source kernel-source-2.6.15.23" ?
[03:14] <ompaul> Anusien,  linux-source-2.6.15
[03:14] <gnomefreak> Anusien: apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.15-23
[03:14] <gnomefreak> sorry yeah linux source
[03:14] <kane777> ompaul, I'm also having some problems installing openvpn... it stays stuck in apt-get (every time i install something the error message pops up that there are two packages that aren't installed properly) what can I do about it??? apt-get install -f doesnt work...
[03:15] <gnomefreak> kane777: remove the 2 packages and try again
[03:15] <Anusien> none of those work
[03:15] <Paradoxx> whats the key to begin editing within vi again?
[03:15] <kane777> gnomefreak, where from?
[03:15] <Anusien> Paradox: 'i'
[03:15] <Paradoxx> kk
[03:15] <Paradoxx> Anusien: ty much
[03:15] <Anusien> or try I think :tutorial
[03:15] <gnomefreak> Paradoxx: i
[03:15] <gnomefreak> kane777: apt-get remove packagename
[03:16] <Anusien> "apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15.23" ?
[03:16] <rixxon> the 'get remove' part is kinda like windows' 'start shutdown' thingy :\
[03:16] <kane777> gnomefreak, ok... did this...
[03:16] <randal> hallo
[03:16] <gnomefreak> kane777: now see if you can install them this time
[03:17] <randal> wat?
[03:17] <andrejkw> Hey guys.
[03:17] <andrejkw> Where do I put downloaded curors?
[03:17] <andrejkw> So I can use them?
[03:18] <Anusien> gnome: that apt-get didn't work
[03:18] <kane777> gnomefreak, no I get error  /bin/mknod: `/dev/net/tun': Operation not permitted (install didn't continue... basicaly the same error with mknod...)
[03:18] <Axolotl> Hi! Due to some installation problems it was not possible for me tu use the partioning tool from the ubuntu-install to create my RAID1. How can is start this tool?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> Anusien: what did it say
[03:18] <gnomefreak> kane777: i dont know than
[03:18] <Anusien> couldn't find package.  synaptic has a 2.16.15-23.39
[03:19] <Anusien> that should do me right?
[03:19] <Almenfors> how do i install a tar.gz file?
[03:19] <Anusien> I don't know why, but this beast of an installer wants the source
[03:19] <gnomefreak> Anusien: what is it you need the source for most everything can be done with the kernel headers
[03:19] <xukatu> anyone here is having trouble with dapper and ndiswrapper module? I'm having something very strange here. I had the wifi card working about half an hour ago. From what I can tell I only installed language packs
[03:20] <gnomefreak> !kernel-headers
[03:20] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[03:20] <xukatu> ndiswrapper finds the hardware as present, yet wlan0 is never found anymore
[03:20] <Anusien> almenfors: unarchive it (tar -xzvf) then compile (make) and install (make install) most likely.  once you crack it open it should have a README
[03:20] <kane777> why do i get /bin/mknod: `/dev/net/tun': Operation not permitted error message when trying to install openvpn???
[03:20] <gnomefreak> xukatu: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[03:20] <rixxon> Almenfors: tar xvf file.tar.gz; cd FolderItExtracted; make install
[03:20] <rixxon> or something like that
[03:20] <gnomefreak> !headers
[03:20] <ubotu> To install linux headers, open a console and type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:20] <xukatu> gnomefreak: ouch! sorry, didn't know
[03:20] <Anusien> gnomefreak: it just says it wants a path to the source code
[03:21] <Almenfors> ty
[03:21] <Anusien> also, the amd_64 source is a slight version off
[03:21] <Anusien> oh wait, hold on.  I think I'm wrong on that
[03:22] <Gronk> heya folks
[03:22] <Gronk> :)
[03:22] <McKinney> hallo
[03:22] <Paradoxx> Seveas: if i use freenx for remote log in, do i enable remote log in in System> Preference > Remote desktop
[03:22] <l> hello, i was running a rootkit detector on my computer and i discovered this warning:   Checking for running syslog slave...                       [ Warning! ]  Info: Cannot find syslog/syslog-ng daemon
[03:22] <McKinney> is there someone who can help me with buildung an eggdrop for irc?
[03:22] <l> can someone tell me how i can fix this?
[03:22] <Seveas> Paradoxx, no
[03:23] <manhunt> hello could any buddy helps me with my linux partion because i want to expand it with the ubuntu-ilve cd but geparted onyl could make it smaler
[03:23] <Gronk> i've just got 1 q, if anybody can help... basically I'm confused why I seem to have sound on my desktop, and when playing wavs & avis - but not in the 2 games I've installed so far...
[03:23] <Gronk> ??
[03:23] <Abo> please can you tell me how to attach files into pastebin.com
[03:23] <_mason> Gronk I am having the same problem
[03:24] <l> seveas: while running a rootkit detector i discovered that root login is possible on my computer, how can i disable this?
[03:24] <Gronk> _mason: have u had any luck on that one?
[03:24] <Paradoxx> Seveas: what freenx client would you recommend for a windows machine
[03:24] <Seveas> l, sudo passwd -l root
[03:24] <Seveas> Paradoxx, the one from nomachine.com
[03:26] <Paradoxx> kk
[03:26] <Axolotl> Hi! How can i start the Partioning Tool from the Install on a running system?
[03:27] <Gronk> hello folks, I'm pretty confused why I seem to have sound on my desktop, and when playing wavs & avis - but not in the 2 games I've installed so far...  anybody got any ideas?
[03:27] <d2812> Hey. I'm trying to set up a pdf printer. I've installed cups-pdf, but still cant see any options for a pdf printer in add new printer. Any ideas?
[03:27] <Seveas> Axolotl, Install the gparted package
[03:27] <reconciliation> Gronk: what games?
[03:28] <Gronk> Frozen bubble & Flobopuyo
[03:28] <Axolotl> Seveas: Do you think i can setup a EAID1 with this?
[03:28] <Axolotl> Seveas: Raid1?
[03:28] <Seveas> Axolotl, no, that's not the job of the partitioner ;)
[03:28] <stephan__> can someone help me get mplayer
[03:29] <Abo> stephan__, did you try , sudo apt-get install mplayer ?
[03:29] <gnomefreak> stephan__: enable ubiverse and multiverse repos than sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get install mplayer
[03:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell stephan__ -about mplayer
[03:30] <Axolotl> Seveas: Hmm, i have two clean and unformated drives in the PC. Under windows they appear as one - because of the raid controller. Under Linux i see 2 unformted. Any idea how i can setup the Raid? I saw the option during the install, but there it was not possible.
[03:31] <Gronk> reconciliation: Frozen bubble & Flobopuyo
[03:31] <stephan__> gnomefreak, i did but it says its not found
[03:32] <reconciliation> Gronk: did you install them using the package manager?
[03:32] <gnomefreak> stephan__: it sounds like you dont have universe adn multiverse enabled i dont mean the repos with the word backports in them
[03:33] <gil> i need some help with kpowersave...is someone willing to help me
[03:33] <Gronk> 1 with the terminal, the other with "add Applications" on the Menu bar
[03:33] <kesV> Axolotl: you say that under windows the two drives look like one. have you done anything to set this up ? like installed some drivers ?
[03:34] <Gronk> reconciliation: 1 with the terminal, the other with "add Applications" on the Menu bar
[03:34] <Axolotl> KesV: No, but the Raid-Controller (Intel Chipset) Is supportet by WinXP.
[03:35] <DeamoN> #ubuntu-br
[03:36] <reconciliation> Gronk: I'm stumped :( Forgive me.
[03:36] <Gronk> reconciliation: no worries mate
[03:36] <kesV> Axolotl: you will probably have to setup the raid in bios to make linux recognize it. however I'm not familiar with Intel's raid chipsets
[03:36] <Gronk> i just thought it was worth asking
[03:37] <Gronk> i'm not sure that it helps that I'm such a newbie either - new 2 linux, and I only intsalled Ubuntu yesterday....
[03:37] <l> seveas: i disabled root login using the command sudo passwd -l root but my rootkit scanner says root login is still enabled
[03:37] <Seveas> weird rootkit scanner...
[03:38] <Seveas> maybe it means that you have allowRoot=true in your ssh config
[03:38] <gnomefreak> l: did you go into /etc/shadow and replace the ! with a *
[03:38] <Seveas> (which is normal)
[03:38] <Axolotl> KesV: I see there is a tool called mdadm. This should do it, but it has no Interface :-) I will play a little bit with the console. The install dialog was more ... userfriendly for me. But it seems that i cannot start the partition and mdadm-tool without running install from the cd, am i correct?
[03:38] <__DeamoN> =/
[03:38] <spikeb> normal?
[03:38] <l> gnomefreak: no, should i?
[03:38] <spikeb> booooo
[03:38] <mnemo> I have found what I think is a reeeally critical bug in the breezy to dapper upgrade process... please check this out --> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/47092
[03:39] <kesV> Axolotl: the raid1 that is setup by md tools is a software raid. if you plan to share that raid partition with windows you can't do that
[03:39] <l> Seveas: i have used this rootkit scanner many times before and never recieved thsi warning
[03:39] <jhenn> will breezy-> dapper be safe whe dapper is released?
[03:39] <Seveas> jhenn, it's safe already
[03:39] <gnomefreak> l: yes if you go into that file the first line will say root:!..... or something like that you need to make it root:*..... just change the ! to a *
[03:39] <jhenn> Seveas, oh okay.  I'm going to wait till official release to upgrade to dapper
[03:40] <gnomefreak> jhenn: 4 days lol
[03:40] <spikeb> wow
[03:40] <reconciliation> Gronk: Open synpatic and install libsdl1.2debian-oss, libsdl1.2debian-alsa, and libsdl1.2debian-arts and perhaps even libsdl1.2debian-esd. Thats my only reasonable idea for your problem without actually sitting at your machine.
[03:40] <jhenn> whats some good p2p for ubuntu?
[03:40] <spikeb> mnemo: that IS a bit critical
[03:40] <jhenn> gnomefreak, YES SIR
[03:40] <rubberduck_sp> I updated from breezy too, and I found all working equally well as before with breezy, no prob here
[03:40] <gnomefreak> jhenn: limewire or frostwire
[03:40] <Axolotl> kesV: Hmm, i do not need to share it with windows. But maybe it works with the ext3 driver for win. But this is no need. Is there a graphical interface for mdadm?
[03:40] <jhenn> gnomefreak, free software please
[03:40] <antjac> Hi
[03:40] <mnemo> spikeb: yeah it's like gonna destroy A LOT of systems and piss a lot of people off...
[03:40] <antjac> I've a little question
[03:40] <Gronk> reconciliation: thnx mate, i'll give it a go
[03:40] <jhenn> gnomefreak, i dont use java
[03:40] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[03:41] <lss> Simple question.. Got my laptop running fine, but I need to back the whole contents of the harddrive up into a nice file. I would ideally like to use my desktop computers HD to backup my linux HD's whole file system via my network. Is there any program to do this?
[03:41] <kesV> Axolotl: you probably want to try evms-gui
[03:41] <gnomefreak> jhenn: why not java is "free" now
[03:41] <gnomefreak> kind of
[03:41] <antjac> do you know how format a floppy (high density with Ubuntu), I've just /dev/fd0 and nothing else to format... so it's just 1,44 mo
[03:41] <antjac> do you know how can i do
[03:41] <jhenn> gnomefreak, of did they officially release it?
[03:41] <kesV> Axolotl: it does a bit more than just mdadm, but should get you where you want
[03:41] <Seveas> mnemo, that has been fixed already
[03:41] <kane777> !fat
[03:41] <ubotu> kane777: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:41] <kane777> !fat32
[03:41] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:41] <Seveas> !low fat
[03:41] <mnemo> Seveas: oh great... excellent.. it got me really scared
[03:41] <ubotu> Seveas: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:42] <gnomefreak> jhenn: they changed the licence already (iirc they will be continuing to change it also)
[03:42] <Frogzoo> !backup
[03:42] <ubotu> For information on backing up your system, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311 Available packages for backing up are backuppc (web based), backup2l, backup-manager, backupninja, bkp, bacula, and sbackup amongst others
[03:42] <antjac> could u help me ?
[03:42] <jhenn> gnomefreak, is that frostwire thing free software?
[03:42] <reconciliation> Im so pleased with dapper - I just want everyone to know. Ubuntu has made linux work on the desktop. ;)
[03:42] <olimar> hi all I need your #immediate# help please!
[03:42] <olimar> I changed the resolution of my screen with gnome-display-manager to 1280x900
[03:42] <mnemo> olimar: ask us
[03:43] <olimar> but the resolution is not supported by my lcd display
[03:43] <jhenn> gnomefreak, sorry i don't use multiverse.  i value my freedom.
[03:43] <Frogzoo> antjac: fdformat /dev/fd0
[03:43] <gnomefreak> jhenn: not sure i dont use any of them but i wanna say ones called amule or emule or something like that its free i think
[03:43] <olimar> and I get now a black screen with "out of range"
[03:43] <jhenn> gnomefreak, any further suggestions?
[03:43] <olimar> so how can I revert the resolution back?
[03:43] <Frogzoo> !tell olimar about fixres
[03:43] <antjac> Frogzoo, it's format in 1440 kb
[03:43] <antjac> i need 1700 kB
[03:43] <kesV> Axolotl: you probably also want to look at dmraid
[03:43] <Frogzoo> antjac: man fdformat
[03:43] <Seveas> olimar, it should revert that back after a few seconds
[03:43] <gnomefreak> !amule
[03:43] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:44] <gnomefreak> !info amule
[03:44] <ubotu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 2459 kB, Installed size: 7452 kB
[03:44] <gnomefreak> jhenn: ^^^^^
[03:44] <amir_> hi im looking fo a program that tales screenshots from the terminal
[03:44] <olimar> Seveas, automatically?
[03:44] <reconciliation> olimar, you can edit your xorg.conf file
[03:44] <michal_> smoq??
[03:44] <reconciliation> That may not be the best way but its one way
[03:45] <Frogzoo> !fixres
[03:45] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:45] <lss> Simple question.. Got my laptop running fine, but I need to back the whole contents of the harddrive up into a nice file. I would ideally like to use my desktop computers HD to backup my linux HD's whole file system via my network. Is there any program to do this?.. note;;; I AM NOT going to use my own operating system i am on now to backup the whole file system, it has to be via network, and.....
[03:45] <lss> it has to include the other partitions
[03:45] <lss> such as windows and mepis
[03:45] <olimar> reconciliation, did that but doesnot help.. i got rid of every resolution only the 1280x1024 one
[03:45] <amir_> hi im looking for a terminal based screenshot program
[03:45] <Rondom> amir_: there's some command that writes the output of a console into a file
[03:45] <Frogzoo> lss: read the pm from ubotu
[03:45] <lss> Frogzoo:  yes i did, that was the reply to it
[03:45] <amir_> Rondom: i mee to take a picture
[03:45] <h3sp4wn> !info dpkg-cross
[03:45] <Rondom> amir_: don't remember the name
[03:45] <ubotu> dpkg-cross: (tools for cross compiling Debian packages), section universe/utils, is extra. Version: 1.25 (breezy), Packaged size: 59 kB, Installed size: 296 kB
[03:46] <amir_> Rondom: i meen to take a picture of my desktop
[03:46] <Rondom> amir_: afaik a picture is not possible
[03:46] <michal_> TJSMOQ
[03:46] <amir_> Rondom: i meen to take a picture of my desktop
[03:46] <Rondom> amir_: if you are in x just press the print-key
[03:46] <Rondom> amir_: no need to say things twice ;-)
[03:46] <amir_> but i want a program that takes the shot and saves it automaticly
[03:46] <amir_> oops sorry
[03:46] <amir_> :D
[03:46] <Gronk> reconciliation: libsdl1.2debian-all worked a charm.  Thanx again for your help.
[03:47] <nickrud> that printscreen key has *never* worked for me, ever ;(
[03:47] <ReMink> Hi all !
[03:48] <ReMink> Who have an explication for create a package .deb for Ubuntu ?
[03:48] <olimar> can't I start gnome-display-manager from another account I have?
[03:48] <ReMink> Please.
[03:48] <olimar> I am right now looged into another account and gnoming from that one..
[03:48] <spikeb> no, gdm has to be run with root permissions
[03:49] <nickrud> ReMink, there's several ways of doing that, look at checkinstall (a package in ubuntu) and http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[03:49] <skuttler> anyone using network-manager
[03:50] <ReMink> nickrud: I want to create a .deb for me, and maybe for all ... MAYBE :o)
[03:51] <Axolotl> Ok, will do that. On the other hand, is there any possibility to bring a Creative X-Fi to work?
[03:51] <nickrud> ReMink, if for all, you definitely don't want checkinstall :)
[03:51] <reconciliation> olimar can you open screen resolution again and check the default for this computer check box then restart X.
[03:51] <HackerGates> hi all
[03:51] <olimar> ok
[03:51] <ReMink> nickrud: OK, I look "The Ubuntu Packaging Guide" :-)
[03:51] <ReMink> nickrud: Thanks you :)
[03:51] <Manika> is there a GUI for wget?
[03:52] <crazy_penguin> hi!
[03:52] <nickrud> ReMink, yw, and good luck :)
[03:52] <gnomefreak> Manika: gwget
[03:52] <ReMink> nickrud: hehe
[03:52] <Manika> gnomefreak: thanks!
[03:52] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:52] <MadMerC> hi ppls how do i install a deb package ??
[03:52] <Jimmey__> MadMerC, sudo dpkg -i nameOfDeb.deb
[03:52] <gnomefreak> MadMerC: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[03:52] <Frogzoo> !deb
[03:52] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[03:53] <MadMerC> kewl thanx both of yas
[03:53] <reconciliation> MadMerC there is also that cool gDebi prog
[03:53] <spikeb> yes, gdebi does rock
[03:54] <nickrud> amazing no one ever wrote one before
[03:54] <reconciliation> wrote what before?
[03:55] <MadMerC> where do i get that from ???
[03:55] <nickrud> graphical deb installer
[03:55] <ReMink> nickrud: Exist it in French?
[03:55] <apokryphos> nickrud: sure there is, synaptic.
[03:55] <Jimmey__> !fre
[03:55] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jimmey__
[03:55] <nickrud> ReMink, if not yet, it's probably going to be translated soon
[03:55] <spikeb> synaptic is not gdebi.
[03:55] <Jimmey__> !fr
[03:55] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:55] <apokryphos> and adept
[03:56] <reconciliation> gdebi installs a stand alone .deb file all user friendly like.
[03:56] <ReMink> Jimmey__: I'm in #ubuntu-fr :)
[03:56] <Jimmey__> ReMink, sorry - It's just cool to do that
[03:56] <Jimmey__> :P
[03:56] <reconciliation> all the other ones user repos
[03:56] <ReMink> :o)
[03:56] <ReMink> nickrud: Ok, :-(
[03:56] <Corey> hi
[03:56] <Corey> !mov
[03:56] <ubotu> Corey: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:57] <Corey> !.mov
[03:57] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Corey
[03:57] <nickrud> ReMink, I'm not evern sure where to look for it yet
[03:57] <Corey> Guys how do you play .mov files ?
[03:57] <nickrud> Corey, you need to play .mov files
[03:57] <nickrud> !restricted
[03:57] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:57] <Jimmey__> Corey, vlc
[03:57] <Corey> vlc
[03:57] <nickrud> Corey, see ubotu above
[03:57] <Corey> ok
[03:58] <softwork> Hi, i install ati driver but i dont have 3d aceleration, driver "fglrx"
[03:58] <MadMerC> someone told me to edit /etc/hosts and take my pc's name out of the top line but now i cant open anything using sudo
[03:58] <softwork> i install ati driver but i dont have 3d aceleration
[03:58] <softwork> i need to?
[03:59] <Jimmey__> softwork, you don't need 3D acceleration unless you want to play 3D games - Do you?
[03:59] <Corey> ok
[03:59] <Corey> it didnt tell me anything about .mov files
[03:59] <Jimmey__> Corey, VLC plays them
[03:59] <softwork> i need to play games
[03:59] <antjac> so i need an answer please
[04:00] <antjac> My question was : how can i format in High Density a floppy with ubuntu (1,7mo)
[04:00] <Corey> No vlc didnt work
[04:00] <Jimmey__> softwork, then sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:00] <Corey> it comes up with just the vlc player and nothing else :(
[04:00] <softwork> i install ati driver, i put InternalAGPGART = "no", i start glxgears and i have 300 fps
[04:00] <reconciliation> Soft: My 3D acc somehow screws some of gnomes special fade effects but I need it for Blender and the cool Xscreensavers
[04:00] <nickrud> MadMerC, they gave you bad info. You need to reboot into recovery mode and put it back
[04:00] <Jimmey__> reconciliation, I'm not sure you need 3D acceleration for Blender
[04:00] <Corey> How do you play .mov files !
[04:01] <nickrud> MadMerC, while you're at it, make sure /etc/hostname matches the pc name
[04:01] <softwork> but if i go to windows and restart and go to Linux i have 3d aceleration,
[04:01] <softwork> ahahaha
[04:01] <softwork> ?
[04:01] <MistaED> hey how do you make those fades in gnome be smoother? or is that something for the future with xgl?
[04:01] <softwork> why?
[04:01] <MistaED> although they were still chuggy with xgl
[04:02] <softwork> i if i go to windows and restart and go to linux i have 2d aceleration?
[04:02] <nickrud> Corey, do you have ubuntu or kubuntu?
[04:02] <softwork> 3d*
[04:02] <Corey> dapper drake
[04:02] <Corey> ubuntu..
[04:02] <Jimmey__> !enter
[04:02] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[04:03] <reconciliation> Mista: They seemed smooth to me until I enabled my nvidia 3D acceleration
[04:03] <Corey> I want to play .mov files but not working
[04:03] <tristanmike> !tell Corey about w32codecs
[04:03] <freakabcd> Corey, mplayer can play mov files fine
[04:03] <MistaED> reconciliation, fair enough i have an nvidia chip as well
[04:03] <HackerGates> #Ubuntu-it
[04:03] <softwork> Jimmey_ why ? i go to windows and restart PC and go to linux, and i have 3d aceleration
[04:03] <nickrud> Corey, gotta run, but I see others are picking it up
[04:03] <reconciliation> But forgive me for complaining - This Dapper RC is the finest distro I ever used and I have used many.
[04:03] <Jimmey__> softwork, what's the problem, then?
[04:03] <HackerGates> #Ubuntu-it
[04:04] <freakabcd> HackerGates, /join #ubuntu-it
[04:04] <Corey> no i have a 32 bit system
[04:04] <softwork> ig i go to windows and restart pc and go to linux, i have 3d aceleraton...
[04:04] <freakabcd> if indeed you want to get there
[04:04] <tristanmike> Corey, AMD64 ?
[04:04] <Corey> no no I have a 32 bit !
[04:04] <Corey> 32 !
[04:04] <Corey> not 64 !
[04:05] <Jimmey__> softwork, so that's the problem?
[04:05] <aslak> hi
[04:05] <tristanmike> Corey, lol, yeah, misread. Read the pm ubotu sent you about restricted formats
[04:05] <aslak> ich habeein problem mit digi cam
[04:05] <Jimmey__> !gr
[04:05] <ubotu> I guess gr is #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia ellhnes xrhstes
[04:05] <aslak> ich kann kein presentationen machen warumm?
[04:05] <tristanmike> Corey, you will need the w32codecs for most popular formats, but as nickrud suggested, mplayer plays them all by default as it comes with it's own codecs built in
[04:05] <gnomefreak> !de
[04:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:06] <Corey> Mplayer aint even opening :S
[04:07] <nickrud> Corey, do https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-df8ec188a635e3ca7106d63a065aaa722fabffc7-2 then https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-16ea04e7e1ecd06555912ba3f470b56563cbd85d
[04:08] <tristanmike> Corey, I don't know if anyone suggested this, but Dapper hasn't "officially" dropped yet, and all Dapper discussion is held in #ubuntu+1, you might try there as well, if what nickrud suggested doesn't work
[04:08] <Corey> it said its stable
[04:08] <Corey> they released it like last week
[04:08] <Corey> a stable version
[04:08] <Jimmey__> Stable means it won't randomly crash.
[04:09] <freakabcd> huh?
[04:09] <Jimmey__> It's not been released fully yet.
[04:09] <Corey> yar
[04:09] <Corey> k
[04:09] <nickrud> Corey, not released, but the release candidate is usable
[04:09] <freakabcd> dapper isn't released
[04:09] <tristanmike> Corey, yeah, it's the Release Candidate, which means if they don't find anything crazy, that's the release they will release
[04:09] <Corey> yeah nothing crazy yet
[04:09] <xophEr> Is the evdev driver issue being looked at? Ubuntu (xev) cannot detect my mx500's side buttons at all..
[04:10] <Ophiocus> crazy is how much it actually rocks :)
[04:10] <freakabcd> well i have something crazy happening
[04:10] <Corey> omg nice daper auto installs .debs when you download !
[04:10] <concept10> does anyone use hirbenate succesfully?  My install works, just never used it much on linux in the last two years
[04:10] <concept10> Corey, how does it do that.  I havent been hanging out here lately
[04:10] <nickrud> xophEr, there's supposed to be a greatly improved evdev coming with the next xorg release
[04:10] <freakabcd> concept10, hibernate works great here
[04:10] <Jimmey__> Corey, it shouldn't..
[04:10] <Frogzoo> concept10: hibernate works fine
[04:11] <concept10> freakabcd, Frogzoo do you guys use it much?
[04:11] <Frogzoo> concept10: daily
[04:11] <freakabcd> concept10, all the time
[04:11] <concept10> its certainly faster than rebooting, I just wanted to know if it was reliable
[04:12] <Corey> well not..auto..but when your in terminal and get a package using wget the next command is auto for install you just have to put password :D
[04:12] <l> is it possible to use scp in ubuntu? i seem to be having trouble
[04:12] <xophEr> nickrud, allright, thats great news! Will it make it into the dapper release?
[04:12] <Corey> mplayer is ufortunely not owkring !
[04:12] <freakabcd> Frogzoo, laptop?
[04:12] <Jimmey__> Corey, I though that's what apt-get was.
[04:12] <nickrud> xophEr, no, but possibly in backports down the line
[04:12] <gnomefreak> xophEr: no maybe in edgy
[04:12] <Frogzoo> yep
[04:12] <Corey> wget downloads..from url
[04:12] <nickrud> xophEr, but gnomefreak is probably more realistic
[04:12] <Corey> i think :/
[04:12] <freakabcd> Frogzoo, dapper / breezy?
[04:12] <Corey> anyone know how to get mplayer to work
[04:13] <jenda> Any idea how I could download the  video from this URL: rtsp://ct1.server.streaming.visual.cz/ct/high1/OVM1-280506.rm ? It's an important political debate and I don't have a TV - and firefox refuses to play it right.
[04:13] <Frogzoo> breezy
[04:13] <Corey> its not working :(
[04:13] <freal_> hey guys
[04:13] <Jimmey__> Corey, so does apt-get - That's what the repositories are
[04:13] <xophEr> ok.. But do you know if this bug is being investigated? Because it worked in an older evdev driver..
[04:13] <MadMerC> how can i find out my root password i need to do an su thing
[04:14] <gnomefreak> MadMerC: use sudo and your password is your user password
[04:14] <freakabcd> Frogzoo, bah.. dapper here. hibernate and sleep were working fine until updatea few weeks back. after that only hibernate worked! Then i just updated to latest. and now sleep works, _but_ only_ in gnome!
[04:14] <concept10> jenda, you dont have realplayer?
[04:14] <freakabcd> its crazy!
[04:14] <nickrud> jenda, that's interesting, I clicked the link you just had and it opened in totem
[04:14] <l> lala
[04:14] <freakabcd> Jimmey__, launchpad.net
[04:14] <jenda> concept10: i do - but I'd like to download it, because it's rather long and it stops after a few minutes in firefox...
[04:14] <jenda> nickrud: hmm....
[04:14] <MadMerC> i cant do anything using sudo because someone told me to edit my /etc/hosts file and now i cant get into anything with sudo
[04:14] <Frogzoo> damn - hopr that gets fixed before release
[04:15] <l> lala
[04:15] <jenda> nickrud: it does for me too.
[04:15] <jenda> that might work
[04:16] <joey_w00t> how do I get DirectX working in wine?
[04:16] <Frogzoo> joey_w00t: you upgrade
[04:16] <MadMerC> joey_w00t: apparently u dont need to it already has its own DX thingo
[04:16] <nickrud> MadMerC, I gave you the fix above: put your hostname back on the first line in /etc/hosts, and make sure just the hostname is in /etc/hostname. Do it from the recovery boot
[04:17] <MadMerC> recovery boot ???
[04:17] <nickrud> MadMerC, reboot, and there should be a boot option called recovery
[04:17] <MadMerC> ok kewl then i can use sudo agen to change it ??
[04:17] <nickrud> MadMerC, then you'll have sudo privs back, assuming that's all you edited ;)
[04:18] <MadMerC> ok thanx nickrud
[04:19] <l> is it possible to use scp in ubuntu?
[04:20] <freakabcd> l, yes
[04:20] <Frogzoo> l: of course
[04:20] <l> i seem to be having trouble, it will not accept my password.
[04:21] <l> freakabcd: can you give me an example of a command to send a file from one location to another?
[04:21] <freakabcd> l, $ scp user@machineB:/home/user/blah.txt .
[04:22] <joey_w00t> I followed the diretions to add the wine repository to Synaptic, and that worked.
[04:22] <joey_w00t> But, it says that wine "cant be authenticated", and that it is dangerous
[04:23] <joey_w00t> should I install it anyway?
[04:23] <nickrud> joey_w00t, you can add the signing key to your keyring (clearing that error) and if you trust the source you can ignore the warning
[04:24] <joey_w00t> I trust WineHQ, so ill ignore it
[04:24] <Bonaldo2000> Hi! Anyone have any idea as to what I am doing wrong here? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182784
[04:24] <nzx> hi guys, i removed .evolution and .gconf/apps/evolution but evolution is still loading some of the infor i tried to import from outlook, how do i start again ?
[04:25] <joey_w00t> wine gives me these errors when trying to run a game:
[04:25] <joey_w00t> err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"d3d8.dll": libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:25] <joey_w00t> err:module:import_dll Loading library d3d8.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\joey\\lfss2\\lfs.exe") failed (error c000007a).
[04:25] <joey_w00t> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\joey\\lfss2\\lfs.exe" failed, status c0000135
[04:26] <Jimmey__> !paste
[04:26] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[04:26] <nickrud> nzx, you need to be logged out of gnome and also be sure that gconfd is not running when you delete .gconf/apps/evolution
[04:26] <Jimmey__> joey_w00t, search synaptic for libGL, and install it
[04:26] <joey_w00t> ok
[04:26] <joey_w00t> sorry for pasting :(
[04:26] <nzx> nickrud, ok, thanks alot, will try that now
[04:27] <nzx> brb
[04:27] <seek> Hello
[04:27] <seek> I'm trying to adjust my xorg.conf so it does not flicker at 1680x1050.  How can I adjust my refresh rate to be at 75Hz?  I was told to try this.
[04:28] <nickrud> seek, did you do the instructions on !fixres?
[04:28] <kazuya> hello all
[04:28] <seek> I don't know what !fixres is.. What is it?
[04:28] <kazuya> new on this forum
[04:28] <nickrud> !fixres
[04:28] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:28] <seek> k, thanks
[04:28] <nickrud> kazuya, welcome. New install?
[04:29] <kazuya> sound does not work - I have two sound cards onboard
[04:29] <kazuya> yes, new install
[04:29] <tiger> what is windows media player substitute in firefox plugin???
[04:29] <tristanmike> kazuya, you should go into the bios and disable onboard sound
[04:29] <tristanmike> kazuya, I'm assuming you have onboard and pci
[04:29] <kazuya> I tried that, but I do not know which to disable.
[04:29] <kazuya> yes.
[04:30] <nickrud> tiger, totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[04:30] <kazuya> one is URT and the other is nforce 2
[04:30] <tristanmike> kazuya, you want to disable the onboard sound, or remove the sound card
[04:31] <seek> I can't get  apt-get to install aticonfig.  It says it does not exist. How do I install this?  Is there a repository I need?
[04:31] <kazuya> I want to disable one of them
[04:31] <MadMerC> what text editor can i use in recovery mode ???
[04:31] <CAN_> hi; i was wondering were i could get ubuntu dapper dvd, with no install-or-live-iso in it.. any help?
[04:31] <tristanmike> kazuya, then the onboard sound should be the only one you can disable in the bios as the pci card shouldn't get picked up like that
[04:31] <tristanmike> MadMerC, nano
[04:31] <Bonaldo2000> Can anyone please help me with my printing problem!:-) Details are here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182784   I cant get into contact with my network printer!
[04:31] <CAN_> (or the all repository set of dvd)
[04:31] <sebas007> anyone, has a trick to browse the list of source packages easily?
[04:32] <kazuya> I saw in the bios under peripheral integrated,
[04:32] <tristanmike> !tell sebas007 about packages
[04:32] <tiger> nickrud: thanks, i will try this now
[04:32] <kazuya> I disabled the onboard ac card, but upon booting my sound was no longer detected.
[04:33] <kazuya> What should I do after disabling one of the cards?
[04:33] <CAN_> ubuntu dapper all set dvd? anyone can link me there?
[04:33] <tristanmike> !tell CAN_ about DVD
[04:34] <l> hois there a command line command to check how much free disk space i have, and/or how much is being used?
[04:34] <sebas007> tristanmike: thank you, that it nice if you are using the officiel repository.
[04:34] <kazuya> should I use alsa all throughout and no OSS?
[04:34] <CAN_> tristanmike: you messed up help hints
[04:34] <tristanmike> l, df -h
[04:34] <nickrud> seek, for ati you probably want to do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI first
[04:34] <CAN_> ghhg you gave me help about playing dvds...
[04:35] <CAN_> i was wondering where to get the all repository set of dapper dvds
[04:35] <CAN_> isos
[04:35] <tristanmike> CAN_, I'm sorry, I misunderstood
[04:35] <CAN_> :)
[04:35] <tristanmike> !tell CAN_ about iso
[04:35] <CAN_> no problem
[04:35] <tristanmike> CAN_, the dvd's should be there too
[04:35] <kazuya> howto install enlightenment?
[04:35] <sebas007> tristanmike: but when it is not an official repository, is not usefull.   I'm looking for something like aptitude but to list source packages.
[04:36] <tristanmike> !tell kazuya about enlightenment
[04:36] <sebas007> kazuya: which version are you talking about?
[04:37] <seek> This is driving me nuts!  I apt-get xserver-xorg-driver-ati  and aticonfig does not exist.  :(
[04:37] <tristanmike> sebas007, right, I understand, maybe "apt-cache search" but to browse....you might have to play around with some settings in Synaptic to get the filter to filter out just your repo you want
[04:37] <seek> What am I doing wrong?
[04:37] <seek> I even reinstalled it
[04:37] <joey_w00t> Screw this. I'm booting back into windows
[04:37] <joey_w00t> :P
[04:37] <CAN_> tristanmike: i`m sad to annoy ya... but i see only breezy links... no dapper one... Am i wrong?
[04:37] <kazuya> the newest e17.
[04:38] <h3sp4wn> seek: aticonfig is for fglrx
[04:38] <seek> I installed that too
[04:38] <tristanmike> CAN_, lol, ok, no worries, lemme get.
[04:38] <seek> aticonfig does not exist on my system
[04:38] <h3sp4wn> seek: dapper or breezy ?
[04:38] <seek> breeezy
[04:39] <sebas007> kazuya: you can run e17 (cvs version) using this script!  http://omicron.homeip.net/projects/#easy_e17.sh
[04:39] <h3sp4wn> seek: have you looked through the ati binary howto on the wiki ? (presuming you are using a 9500 or newer)
[04:40] <seek> yes. I'm going over it right now
[04:40] <seek> hopefully I'll figure this out
[04:40] <seek> I can't understand why aticonfig won't install
[04:40] <Bonaldo2000> Just a test...can anyone read this?
[04:40] <Jimmey__> Bonaldo2000, yes
[04:41] <h3sp4wn> seek: You shouldn't need to use aticonfig (it will add alot of things that are not necessary (unless you need dualhead or tvout))
[04:41] <MadMerC> is there a program i can use to install deb packages cause i cant seem to do it from the term
[04:41] <tiger> nickrud: Video codec 'MS WMV 9 (win32)' is not handled. what to do with that
[04:41] <Bonaldo2000> hehe ok thanks! None of you have any idea how to solve my prob described here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182784 ? Its driving me crazy!
[04:41] <Jimmey__> MadMerC, what errors are you getting?
[04:41] <kazuya> thanks.
[04:42] <tristanmike> CAN_, cdimage.ubuntu.com
[04:42] <kevin> nickrud - you need the win32 codecs installed?
[04:42] <MadMerC> Jimmey__: cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:42] <CAN_> tnx..
[04:42] <CAN_> :D
[04:42] <Jimmey__> Where's the .deb?
[04:42] <Jimmey__> On your desktop/
[04:42] <MadMerC> yup
[04:42] <tristanmike> CAN_, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/   (there's a better one)
[04:42] <Jimmey__> MadMerC, try "cd Desktop",
[04:43] <Jimmey__> Then try the command again
[04:43] <MadMerC> ok
[04:44] <kazuya> how do you run the script
[04:44] <Gronk> hey all
[04:44] <ranpha> what is a good disk check tool?
[04:44] <kazuya> I downloaded the easy_e17.sh script.. question is how do I run or execute it?
[04:44] <MadMerC> Jimmey__:its working thanx :P i normally use windoze so i didnt worry bout the case sensitivity lol
[04:45] <ranpha> kazuya in terminal window do sh name.sh
[04:45] <Gronk> can anybody here recomend a good dvd player for ubuntu???  I installed Ogle - but its jaggedy as all hell... esp compared to my avi's for example, played through totem.
[04:45] <bioskain> set it to executable, go in the same directory of the script, and type ./script_name.sh
[04:45] <Jimmey__> Gronk, Totem plays DVD's nicely
[04:46] <kazuya> thanks.
[04:46] <kevin> gronk - jittery dvd may be that you haven't got dma enabled on your dvd drive (it's disabled by default)
[04:46] <Jimmey__> Gronk, follow the restrictedFormats link for DVD
[04:47] <Gronk> Jimmey_: but totem doesn't do dvd menus yeah?
[04:47] <CAN_> tristanmike: just the last one... this is the live-install dvd.. it`s almost nothing more then the cd in terms of number of packages.. Is there any dvd set of the dapper repository? if not i would try to build my own.. tnx anyway
[04:47] <Jimmey__> Gronk, it does
[04:47] <kevin> gronk - totem with xine engine does dvd menus fine
[04:47] <tristanmike> CAN_, yeah, as I understand it, if you want a repository dvd, you would have to build your own
[04:49] <CAN_> yeah tnx.. i cannot use ubuntu tools as debpartial... and so on.. cauz i am on fedora.. (university pc) .. plz link me to a guide to build it without debian packages needed.... if not tnx for the answers anyway..
[04:49] <Gronk> installing the xine engine as we speak
[04:49] <Gronk> thanks
[04:49] <Gronk> ;)
[04:50] <dusty_> Hey guys when i upgraded to dapper my sound has gone funny like REAL QUIET, i have to turn it on full blast to hear anything and then its quiet++ anyone know howto fix it?
[04:50] <tristanmike> CAN_, try this maybe.... http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en  (if not, that's all I got :P)
[04:51] <nickrud> dusty_, run alsamixer in a console, make sure master & pcm are turned up, then control again with the graphical volume controller
[04:52] <CAN_> tristanmike: tank you.
[04:52] <nickrud> dusty_, that's pretty general instructions, your specific card may have other controls
[04:52] <tristanmike> CAN_, you welcome :)
[04:52] <MadMerC> how do i run ethereal ??
[04:53] <Jimmey__> MadMerC, type ethereal into a terminal
[04:53] <MadMerC> ok
[04:53] <nickrud> MadMerC, if you have installed it, alt-f2, then type ethereal
[04:53] <dusty_> nickrud, everything is turned up to the max?
[04:53] <nickrud> MadMerC, er, gksudo ethereal
[04:54] <nickrud> dusty_, I'm no sound expert. I've watched the experts say that and have it work very often, so I suggested it :)
[04:54] <dominus_> alguien sabe de c es que no hay canales en espaol para c
[04:55] <nickrud> !es
[04:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:56] <gnomefreak> can OOo open and run pps files?
[04:56] <Subhuman> gnomefreak, I think so
[04:56] <Subhuman> pps have an icon so i assume there supported
[04:56] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: how do pps files differ from ppt's?
[04:57] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: dont think they do but not sure
[04:57] <l> can someone tell me what the default mount point for a cd-rom drive would be in ubuntu?
[04:57] <Jimmey__> gnomefreak, it can't open FrontPage or Powerpoint files, I don't think
[04:57] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: that's what i thought - i'm fairly sure that it works
[04:57] <Hobbsee> impress will open ppt files...
[04:57] <Jimmey__> l, /media/cdrom0, but also your desktop
[04:57] <gnomefreak> ok i know ppt will open with OOo
[04:57] <l> Jimmey__: do you have any idea why a cd-rom inserted into the drive would not show up on the desktop?
[04:58] <Jimmey__> No - try "ls /media"
[04:58] <zbyte> woot..is my ubuntu still up and running? oh yea
[04:58] <jhenn> are there any general howtos on speeding up gnome?
[04:59] <Jimmey__> jhenn, yeah - It's called the XFCE documentation.
[04:59] <Jimmey__> Just kidding.
[04:59] <zbyte> lol
[04:59] <zbyte> 5.1 gigawatts!
[04:59] <tristanmike> l, does it happen with all media ?
[04:59] <jhenn> Jimmey__: heh seriously though
[04:59] <zbyte> what themes you guys using for ubuntu
[05:00] <Bonaldo2000> Still no one has any ideas? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182784  (I am gonna keep spamming you : -p)
[05:00] <nickrud> jhaubrich, in the help docs, under system admin, there's a section on improving performance
[05:00] <h3sp4wn> zbyte: smoothstep and kde next
[05:00] <zbyte> that comes built in ubuntu..or downloaded, h3sp4wn
[05:00] <h3sp4wn> zbyte: its in the repos somewhere
[05:00] <puke2> hey, can one of u (or all of u) help me real quick?
[05:01] <l> tristanmike: no, when i insert an audio cd sound juicer opens, but when i insterted this media nothing ghappened
[05:01] <l> can someone tell me how to kill a service running on my computer?
[05:01] <nickrud> erm, jhenn the last thing above was for you
[05:01] <puke2> sudo killall (application without parenthesis
[05:02] <nickrud> l  sudo /etc/init.d/<service> stop , see /etc/init.d for a list
[05:02] <Boubakar> .
[05:02] <Boubakar> .
[05:03] <jason__> hello, my system has adept and not synaptic.  but all the guides, etc i see talk about synaptic.  should i use synaptic instead of adept?
[05:03] <puke2> l: yea listen to nickrud, not me
[05:03] <Jimmey__> jason__, are you using KDE?
[05:03] <jason__> Jimmey__, yes
[05:03] <jason__> i used others, too though
[05:03] <Jimmey__> Then I think they're essentially the same thing - Synaptic's for Gnome, and Adept's for Synaptic
[05:04] <puke2> adept is KDE's version of synaptic
[05:04] <Jimmey__> Jason__, if it gets the job done..
[05:04] <Jimmey__> :P
[05:04] <puke2> I got this error when upgrading just now, /var/cache/apt/archives/ntp-server_1%3a4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu5_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:04] <Gronk> um, I'm back again - I was just wondering how to enable dma for my dvd drive?
[05:04] <Gronk> hard to do?
[05:04] <puke2> i think its in ubuntu wiki
[05:05] <tristanmike> !tell Gronk about DMA
[05:05] <nickrud> !dma
[05:05] <tristanmike> Gronk, check your pm from ubotu for info
[05:05] <nickrud> smart ubotu :)
[05:05] <CharlesE> Can someone tell me if there is a program in the repositarys to make it easier to configure samba. I want samba to make all files created chmod 777 But I dont know how to do this i need to do this as i am trying to share my www root
[05:05] <puke2> !what is with the explanation points
[05:05] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, puke2
[05:05] <Gronk> thanks tristanmike
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> puke2,  yep same issue last noght.. i removed ntp-server and ntp-simple (i think) then removed them again... then reinstallsed them
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> !bot
[05:05] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[05:05] <nickrud> puke2, it tells the bot it's a command to listen to
[05:05] <puke2> ah
[05:06] <puke2> Dr_Willis, removing both ntp-server and ntp-simple give me that error
[05:06] <_mason> Hey all. Good day?
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> puke2,  i used the command to remove them.. it gafe an erorr and removed one of them.. THEN i did the same command aggain
[05:07] <ranpha> DOes somebody know a tool like scandisk???
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> !fsck
[05:08] <jason__> Jimmey__, i think there must have been some change becuase this tutorial is telling me to check a restricted copyright box but i don't see one in either synaptic or adept. more likely than not it's there and i can't see it
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> you mean for scanning/fixing  a windows drive?
[05:08] <ranpha> Well it seems that 2 directorys on my disk are ....well there gone. The name is there but it's a unknown file wit 0 bytes...
[05:09] <dou213> hmm, hey u guys, i've got a problem, my mouse is going sometimes crazy and all 3 buttons activate themselves.. any idea why?
[05:09] <ranpha> dou213..using a IBM laptop with trackpoint?
[05:09] <pally> u need a new mouse
[05:09] <dou213> i'm using a MEDION laptop
[05:10] <msoeken> Hi, does anybody knows how to copy dvds to an iso by command line
[05:10] <dou213> with an A4 Tech mouse...
[05:10] <dou213> not on usb
[05:10] <jhenn> are there any howtos on speeding up gnome?
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> ranpha,  you shoud fsck the drives then and have them hopefully get fixed - type !fsck and read the bots URLS
[05:10] <ranpha> on ps/2?
[05:10] <dou213> nope ranpha
[05:10] <ranpha> !fsck
[05:10] <dou213> normal mouse, not usb
[05:11] <dou213> oh yes.. ps/2
[05:11] <h3sp4wn> msoeken: dd if=/dev/hdc of=whatever.iso bs=2048 (may not work with dual layer)
[05:11] <ranpha> dou213 ps/2 is a then mae of the connector of the mouse,,,is it round?
[05:11] <dou213> it's the normal mouse port
[05:11] <dou213> yes
[05:11] <ranpha> strange i have the problem with a trackpoint mouse...but this is a known problem...sarge got it fixed...ubuntu not
[05:12] <dou213> hmm... my mouse is optical, no ball :)
[05:12] <l> is there a better file manager than nautilus?
[05:12] <msoeken> h3sp4wn: thanks
[05:12] <ranpha> Dr_willis...euh you got something easier then fsck???
[05:12] <nickrud> jhenn, try the help docs, under gnome system admin, there's a performance section
[05:12] <ranpha> dou213 maybe not getting enoug power..
[05:12] <l> also, is there a command to blank a re-writable disc?
[05:12] <h3sp4wn> msoeken: test that it is ok by using sudo mount -o loop whatever.iso /mnt/tmp (which should be created if it doesn't exist)
[05:13] <dou213> ranpha, any suggestions how i can resolve this problem?
[05:13] <dou213> or anybody else?
[05:13] <Vaylor|rolyaV> hi all
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> ranpha,  fsck is the CORE fundamental tool its rather trivial to use.. and as far as i know there is no other.
[05:14] <Vaylor|rolyaV> do you know how take a screen whit imagemagick?
[05:14] <ranpha> dou213..try searching google...i used it also for my laptop...and found some things...not that it worked for me but you can try it
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> ranpha,  if ya reboot it 'should' auto-check the drives and hopefully fix them
[05:14] <Sven_vB> hi :)
[05:14] <ranpha> Dr_willis...okay thanks
[05:14] <Sven_vB> where can i get support for mICQ?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> heh - it seems for those with that ntp apt issue -->  apt-get remove ntp-simple  ntp-server   (twice) worked for me to remove them both.
[05:16] <dou213> nickrud, which help docs where u talking about? link?
[05:16] <_mason> hey
[05:16] <nickrud> dou213, the performance issue? the help icon on the top menu bar
[05:17] <dou213> yes, with the perfomance
[05:18] <nickrud> dou213, or, http://help.ubuntu.com ;)
[05:18] <ltibor65> Hi! How can I enable root login in konsole?
[05:19] <nickrud> ltibor65, use sudo -i for root access
[05:19] <odin_> okay, my friend is trying to install Ubuntu on his x86 comp, and when he restarts instead of loading grub he just gets the message "No OS found"
[05:19] <odin_> I think it might be that it's not booting the right partition, but could there be any other problems?
[05:22] <ltibor65> thanks, nickrud. Sudo -i works, but su why not?
[05:22] <leiv> hi :)
[05:22] <jhenn> any tips for speeding up X or making X more responsive?
[05:22] <l> are there any other file managers available for gnome?
[05:22] <nickrud> dou213, you'll actually need to go to http://gnome.org/learn/ on the net
[05:22] <leiv> I'am a student from china, glad to be here
[05:23] <nickrud> ltibor65, root login is disabled in ubuntu, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for details
[05:24] <ltibor65> nickrud, that mean, i cannot login as root at startup too?
[05:24] <jhenn> leiv: glad to be in china?
[05:25] <nickrud> ltibor65, yes, but sudo -i gives you the same net result. If you truly want to log into root, that wiki page says how, I think
[05:25] <leiv> no, i mean to this chat room
[05:25] <leiv> :)
[05:26] <ltibor65> nickrud, thank you very much.
[05:26] <ranpha> He is there a program for on you systray or on gnome that shows you disk acitvity???
[05:27] <alexito-> ubuntu doesnt have ftp client integrated true? what ftp u can recommend me
[05:27] <Subhuman> ranpha, "right click panel
[05:27] <Subhuman> add to panel
[05:27] <Subhuman> ranpha, then click system monitor
[05:27] <nickrud> ranpha, the monitor on the top menu bar has a preference for showing hard disk activity
[05:27] <rigonatti> can someone help me with somw newbie clues ?
[05:27] <alexito-> i think gdesklets too
[05:28] <Subhuman> then right click the lil black box ranpha , and select "load" or "disk" and enable it
[05:28] <kevin> alexito - i use gFTP
[05:28] <alexito-> i can find it with package manageR?
[05:28] <leiv> I have download dapper RC, but i couldn't install it from harddisk
[05:28] <nickrud> alexito-, top menu bar, places connect to server
[05:29] <leiv> cann't find iso
[05:29] <ranpha> subhuman...thnx i see the bar but the lastpart doesn't work
[05:29] <Subhuman> ranpha, you see the lilttle black box, you right click that and click preferences"
[05:30] <Subhuman> ranpha, then tick the box next to "harddisk"
[05:30] <ranpha> subhuman yeah already have that
[05:30] <nickrud> leiv, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies might work, I've never tried it myself
[05:30] <Subhuman> well then you should have another black box.
[05:30] <Subhuman> and that shows your hdd load, it's default is red,
[05:30] <ranpha> oh wait...thinking to far..already there :-)
[05:30] <cycbb> g
[05:31] <rigonatti> can someone help me with somw newbie clues ?
[05:31] <nickrud> !ask
[05:31] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:31] <ollo82> is here someone using avahi?
[05:31] <nickrud> herm, ask is harsh ;(
[05:31] <nickrud> rigonatti, ask, you never know
[05:31] <alexito-> gftp its free?
[05:32] <nickrud> alexito-, yes
[05:32] <robin_> hallo
[05:32] <kevin> alexito - yeah, it's free
[05:32] <robin_> hello
[05:32] <robin_> welcome
[05:32] <robin_> hi
[05:32] <robin_> omg
[05:33] <robin_> hi
[05:33] <tristanmike> !enter
[05:33] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:33] <robin_> i dont anderstand this
[05:33] <ranpha> how long does fsck last??/ on a 300 gig disk?
[05:34] <alexito-> what best site for download some cool gnome themes
[05:34] <Subhuman> alexito-, www.gnome-look.org
[05:34] <void^> ranpha: depends on filesystem and level of corruption
[05:34] <tristanmike> robin_,  It means, make clear, concise, thoughts on one line, or in one statement, as opposed to hitting enter for every word or thought you have :)
[05:34] <alexito-> thanks Subhuman
[05:34] <ranpha> mmmmm one hour..two??
[05:34] <robin_> okey
[05:35] <rigonatti> can someone help me with somw newbie clues ?
[05:35] <robin_> howold
[05:35] <nickrud> ranpha, it can take a while; my 40G takes 4, 5 minutes
[05:35] <kevin> alexito - i think there's also a gnome artwork package in the repos which will download themes for you
[05:35] <ranpha> mmmm oh wellll
[05:35] <alexito-> ok i will search for it
[05:35] <nn> I just did the most fun install of ubuntu ever! </sarcasm>
[05:36] <nickrud> rigonatti, so ask, don't know until you tell us what you have problems with
[05:36] <runes> nn I take it you installed with an asus motherboard?
[05:36] <nn> runes: worse, hp w/ dead floppy + cdrom that wont boot from usb
[05:36] <sinbad444> hey guys how do i see how much drive space i got left in dapper ?
[05:36] <tristanmike> sinbad444, "df -h"
[05:37] <sinbad444> ok thx,
[05:37] <kevin> sinbad444 - open up your home folder, should see space left in lower-left corner
[05:37] <nn> had to move files to it via a thumbdrive and then use grub to boot the install stuff off the 'recovery' partition, and had a nightmare w/ d-i (had to keep killing the partitioner and remounting /target
[05:38] <nn> manually partitioned it, had issues with X on it, so i had to remove all that stuff for now (it's a router/dev box anyways)
[05:38] <sinbad444> is 28 Gigs enough space to use Dapper + apps ?
[05:38] <sinbad444> or will i need more soon ?
[05:38] <kevin> sinbad444 - plenty
[05:38] <sinbad444> oh good
[05:38] <tristanmike> sinbad444, that's tons, unless you really, really like it :P
[05:39] <nn> Ok, i missed something.. after installing the base system, how do i get a proper /etc/fstab and all?
[05:39] <NoelJB> OK, I have installed Xubuntu from yesterday's CD.  Install reportedly went fine.  HOWEVER, if I boot from the LiveCD and run it, it recognizes my two CardBus network adapters.  If I boot the INSTALLED disk, it does NOT.  And if I try booting without them plugged in, and then try to plug them in for a diagnostic, I am told that it cannot map them.
[05:39] <nn> # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM
[05:39] <nn> That's my fstab as of yet, shouldn't base-config have made one?
[05:39] <sinbad444> and which dvd burning software is best for dapper ? and will it be able to burn files off an ajacent ntfs partition using dapper ?
[05:39] <runes> I have an 80 gig
[05:39] <runes> formatted it as ext3
[05:40] <runes> if I want to mount it for all users
[05:40] <runes> sould it a) be an extended partition formatted as ext 3
[05:40] <NoelJB> I spent almost all day yesterday dealing to convert it from RH to Ubuntu.  First the normal ubuntu distros are far too big for that amount of RAM on that old laptop, and then this problem with Xubuntu.  Needless to say, a bit frustrating.
[05:40] <tristanmike> sinbad444, I like k3b, but there is also gnomebaker. And yes to your second question
[05:40] <runes> or b) as a primary partition formatted in ext3
[05:40] <sinbad444> oh good good
[05:41] <dany> hi
[05:41] <void^> runes: you don't mount a sane fs like ext3 for all users. simply mount it, and chmod it. primary or extended doesn't matter.
[05:41] <nn> hmm, it's been a while since i set up a linux box (typically a *bsd person) what all must i have in fstab?
[05:41] <void^> +tp
[05:41] <tristanmike> sinbad444, just remember, and ntfs partition can only be read from, not written to
[05:41] <sinbad444> im luving dapper more by the second... !
[05:41] <dany> is it possible to move to ubuntu dapper from a debian by changing all sources?? for apt
[05:41] <nn> got /, /proc, and swap thus far, any other funky new linux stuff?
[05:41] <angelus> j
[05:41] <jason__> doesn't ubuntu kinda take care of fstab?
[05:41] <NoelJB> Yes, it should have taken care of the basics for fstab.
[05:41] <nn> jason__: it should have but my install wasn't exactly a smooth one on this pos ;)
[05:42] <angelus> hi to everybody
[05:42] <NoelJB> nn: I know the feeling (see above joys on network adapters)
[05:42] <tristanmike> dany, I don't believe so, not easily anyway
[05:43] <nn> NoelJB: ahh i just have a funky partition (hp recovery partition) which i couldnt remove since it was my install media for ubuntu, which causes the partitioner to go nuts
[05:43] <jason__> nn aha.  i'm new to unbuntu but i'd have problems every once in a while with mandriva.  usually when they happended, i'd remove the fstab entry and reboot.  then they were usually fixed.
[05:43] <angelus> cual es el servidor espaol
[05:43] <angelus> de ubuntu?
[05:43] <NoelJB> When it works, ubuntu is great, when it doesn't ... :-\   I hate to say it, given the "religions distro wars", but RH seems far more hardware friendly --- at least towards my older systems.
[05:43] <dany>  is aiglx working fine on ubuntu?
[05:43] <angelus> hola
[05:43] <h3sp4wn> dany: Its possible they may be a few dependancies you have to sort out (I upgraded debian sarge -> dapper server with only a few dependancy problems)
[05:43] <nn> NoelJB: this isnt a ubuntu thing, this is an issue of that machine being a pos :)
[05:44] <dany> np for that h3s
[05:44] <dany> so nice
[05:44] <NoelJB> nn: :)
[05:44] <nn> NoelJB: i had to do a ninja install from XP due to no removable media options that i could boot from
[05:44] <dany> can t you dcc your sources.list?? or copy in pm?
[05:44] <J-B01010> which is the german ubuntu channel ?
[05:44] <ryanakca> !ge
[05:44] <ubotu> ryanakca: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:45] <ryanakca> !de
[05:45] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[05:45] <ryanakca> that it?
[05:46] <odin_> ryanakca: ubuntu-de is the german channel, yes
[05:46] <ryanakca> :)
[05:46] <Abo> where can I find the installation directory of  firefox
[05:46] <NoelJB> well, I guess I'll see if anyone has any thoughts on this cardbus problem while I start burning RHEL install disks <<sigh>>
[05:47] <UserName1597> SSH is shitting me off it keeps saying REMOTE HOST INDENTIFICATION changed and is bitching about how i need to update some rsa key. can someone help me fix this problem
[05:48] <NoelJB> UserName1597: did you recently do an install or something?  Sounds like OpenSSH thinks that the server's ID has changed.
[05:48] <NoelJB> Or is this some OTHER server that you are trying to connect to?
[05:48] <sinbad444> is it normal for Dapper to take almost FIVE minutes to logon after typing in my username + pw ??
[05:48] <UserName1597> NoelJB, I had problems on my ubuntu server so i reinstalled
[05:48] <sinbad444> its done this 3 times in the last 2 days
[05:49] <UserName1597> NoelJB, Dont worry the problem is solved i deleted the .ssh folder
[05:49] <nickrud> NoelJB, have you searched the wiki for _usable_ cardbus info
[05:49] <nn> NoelJB: i've never used cardbus ;\ too poor for a laptop ;p
[05:50] <chess> anyone use skype in ubuntu?
[05:50] <Klaidas> chess: I do :)
[05:50] <sinbad444> hey guys,  is it normal for Dapper to take almost FIVE minutes to logon after typing in my username + pw ??
[05:50] <chess> what 1 did u download
[05:50] <Subhuman> sinbad444, no.
[05:51] <tristanmike> sinbad444, you might want to ask in #ubuntu+1  since Dapper hasn't "Officially" dropped yet
[05:51] <Klaidas> chess: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto
[05:51] <NoelJB> nickrud: such as?  and please note again: it WORKS if I boot the LiveCD, it FAILS when I boot the installed system that the LiveCD installed.
[05:51] <sinbad444> ok thx Subby
[05:51] <chess> ty klaid
[05:51] <NoelJB> sinbad444: how much RAM?
[05:52] <Klaidas> If you want ther package name to download, here:
[05:52] <Klaidas> Debian package (7.7 MB)
[05:52] <Klaidas> Version: 1.2.0.18. Release date: March 21, 2006
[05:52] <Klaidas> Xandros, MEPIS, Ubuntu, other Debian-based distros
[05:52] <NoelJB> I was pretty shocked when I installed Dapper on a system that had been happy previously with Fedora, and it started swapping like a pig.
[05:52] <NoelJB> hence the switch to XFCE to try and save RAM.
[05:52] <vmware> hi
[05:52] <nn> c0ffee
[05:53] <nickrud> NoelJB, http://wiki.ubuntu.com ; and check https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs as well
[05:53] <jerware> fellaz
[05:53] <jerware> anyone using irssi?
[05:53] <Klaidas> yes, when on ubuntu :)
[05:53] <uscg_corey> anyone know why i get this error when tryign to configure something from source? checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:53] <NoelJB> nickrud: anything specific, or just a blanket suggestion?  Because I've been there and elsewhere googling and searching for this stuff.
[05:54] <jerware> i dont have X installed.  how can i toggle between sessions or channels?  and that room to execute irc commands like /whois and such?
[05:54] <kevin> uscg_corey - you need to install the development tools - gcc, g++, etc.
[05:54] <grogoreo> hi
[05:54] <nickrud> NoelJB, no, a lot of people don't know those resources, wasn't sure if you did. You sounded like you could make a decent bug report
[05:55] <grogoreo> is it possible to have the VNC server show only workspace?
[05:55] <uscg_corey> i have gcc and g++, what else would i need?
[05:55] <uscg_corey> ah libc6-dev
[05:55] <nickrud> uscg_corey, install build-essential
[05:55] <Klaidas> jerware: alt + channel number.
[05:55] <NoelJB> nickrud: probably, expecially if I had the time.  I have a friend who works at Ubuntu, so I'll ping him during the week and pass it directly.
[05:55] <Klaidas> That usually works
[05:56] <uscg_corey> there we go, thanks nickrud :)
[05:56] <jerware> and... is there a wayt to put irssi in the background? to do some thing else such as post  a pastebin?
[05:56] <biberao> hey
[05:56] <biberao> help pls
[05:57] <uscg_corey> configure: error: unable to find the GTK+ library
[05:57] <biberao> getting wpa to work :(
[05:57] <biberao> cant have wireless thru wpa
[05:57] <Nalle> help me too
[05:57] <nickrud> uscg_corey, what are you compiling?
[05:57] <uscg_corey> mail-notification
[05:57] <AngryElf> anyone here familiar with LIRC? If  I add irexec to my startup session it will hang the ubuntu logon splash-screen
[05:57] <nickrud> uscg_corey, why not just use apt-get to install it?
[05:57] <NoelJB> nickrud: by the way, if you see people complaining that VMware and Dapper don't play well, the two things I found were (a) you need to install linux-headers-<arch> because linux-kernel-headers still refers to the old kernel --- that will allow you to compile the eth driver.  Next, you need to download and install special mouse and video drivers because VMware's standard ones don't ship for Xorg 7.  Details on the VMware forums.
[05:58] <uscg_corey> b/c the one in reps seems to be old
[05:58] <lewix> yo
[05:58] <lewix> how are you guys doing?
[05:58] <biberao> hello anyone?
[05:58] <uscg_corey> the one in the ubuntu reps is version 1.x aand version 3.0 is out
[05:58] <NoelJB> VMware drivers for Dapper (and other XOrg 7 systems): http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=381354
[05:58] <nickrud> !vmware
[05:58] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[05:59] <Klaidas> jerware: well, it's a terminal-based application. So to put it in the background, you should open another terminal/tab of terminal. How to do that? I don't know, I'm using X :)
[05:59] <NoelJB> nickrud: ?
[05:59] <nickrud> NoelJB, just checking the bot link here
[05:59] <kevin> bibero - hi. i remember getting wpa going, but it was a few months ago and can't remember specific. it is possible though
[05:59] <void^> jerware: use screen
[05:59] <nickrud> uscg_corey, sudo apt-get build-dep mail-notification will pull most/all deps you need to build
[05:59] <jerware> void^ whats screen ?
[06:00] <Blippe> !popcon
[06:00] <nickrud> NoelJB, I don't use vmware, but someone might like your link
[06:00] <ubotu> popcon is probably popularity contest, a package which is installed by default on all ubuntu machines, but aint configured, and therefore not "running". Type this in a terminal to contribute: sudo dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest
[06:00] <Klaidas> As I remember, you can open another session by using alt+ some_f_key. At least in X
[06:00] <NoelJB> nickrud: they'll need it.  The Wiki is not up-to-date on the subject.  :)
[06:00] <void^> jerware: run irssi in screen and you can detach it and reattach it anywhere (eg, from a remote ssh session)
[06:00] <biberao> help help
[06:00] <uscg_corey> nickrud, E: Unable to find a source package for mail-notification
[06:01] <ompaul> uscg_corey, using the concept from windows of the latest version is the best is not something that works in Ubuntu. We do something called timed releases. I will now get the bot to say it to the channel to explain my point to you and anyone else who might be interested.
[06:01] <ompaul> !timetable
[06:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more.
[06:01] <kevin> bibero - try the wiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[06:01] <nickrud> uscg_corey, some packages require you to enable extra repos by hand, see !components for why and !repos for how
[06:01] <biberao> doesnt work
[06:01] <Mortal`> How do I restart Apache from terminal?
[06:01] <biberao> kevin,
[06:01] <uscg_corey> ompaul, i didnt say it was but the one that comes with ubuntu is missing evolution support
[06:02] <gizban> is there a live CD for 6.06?
[06:02] <ompaul> uscg_corey, I misunderstood you there, sorry, (but that is a good web page ;-))
[06:02] <Klaidas> gizban: sure
[06:02] <kevin> mortal - "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
[06:03] <Mortal`> thanks kevin
[06:03] <gizban> Klaidas: do you know where I can find it?
[06:03] <Klaidas> wait, I'll look :)
[06:03] <lewix> hey guys, what's the best irc client out there?
[06:03] <MadMerC> how can i change the permissions on a hard drive when the owner is root ???
[06:03] <nn> any good svgalib/fb browsers? :)
[06:03] <nn> lewix: Depends on you :) I like irssi a lot, however.
[06:03] <freakabcd> nn, elinks?
[06:04] <nn> freakabcd: elinks - advanced text-mode WWW browser
[06:04] <lewix> I don't like xchat and being a windows user I kind of prefer mirc
[06:04] <NoelJB> Mortal`: apachectl is the command
[06:04] <BioSnorE> kvirc own for irc :-P
[06:04] <freakabcd> or is it just links? theres 2 packages. one that has support for pics on svga
[06:04] <Klaidas> gizban: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[06:04] <nn> lewix: i like irssi, but i used to run mIRC in wine scripted to look/act like BitchX :)
[06:04] <lewix> hmm irssi? kvirc
[06:05] <gizban> Klaidas: thanks, I finally found it too using site:ubuntu.com
[06:05] <[VaP] BioVorE> http://www.kvirc.net
[06:05] <nn> freakabcd: i was kind of hoping for something with gecko+svgalib/fb
[06:05] <freakabcd> nn, you're the one who asked for an svgalib/fb browser
[06:05] <Klaidas> lewix: you must decide yourself, which suits your need :) I myself like irssi/xchat
[06:05] <freakabcd> gecko?
[06:05] <nn> I might have to write one ;)
[06:05] <lewix> alright so you advice me either kvirc or irssi
[06:05] <freakabcd> no way
[06:05] <freakabcd> you;ll have to write it yourself
[06:05] <nn> That'll work
[06:05] <freakabcd> or maybe you can run some fb wm
[06:05] <lewix> is xchat different from irssi ?
[06:05] <shriphani> guys i got a stoopid question
[06:05] <nn> lewix: Indeed.
[06:05] <nn> lewix: irssi is text-only, but very nice
[06:05] <shriphani> how do i access IRC from the bash shell ?
[06:06] <nn> shriphani: irssi! :)
[06:06] <Klaidas> yup!
[06:06] <[VaP] BioVorE> or bitchx
[06:06] <nn> shriphani: (apt-get install irssi-text)
[06:06] <shriphani> ok thanx
[06:06] <MadMerC> how do i change the permissions on a hard drive if the owner is root ?????
[06:06] <nn> [VaP] BioVorE: is there a recent bx?
[06:06] <[VaP] BioVorE> probably not..
[06:06] <nn> BioVorE: ya ;\
[06:06] <lewix> nn: no thank you, text only! im going to go berserk
[06:07] <nn> lewix: No no, it's really elegant, i swear
[06:07] <BioVorE> but irc is text only
[06:07] <nn> Yea.. so why complicate it?
[06:07] <lewix> alright, I'll give it a try, where can I download it....
[06:07] <BioVorE> what irssis?
[06:07] <nn> i love the fact i can leave pork and irssi in screen and connect to it from say work or school or anywhere
[06:07] <freakabcd> err.. i'd rather have good fonts even for just text when i'm inside an X session
[06:07] <nn> lewix: apt-get install irssi-text
[06:07] <nn> freakabcd: that's the\
[06:08] <lewix> thank you nn
[06:08] <nn> freakabcd: that's to do with the terminal not the app
[06:08] <nn> lewix: yw
[06:08] <gizban> dumb question maybe: If I install the release candidate, is it easy to upgrade to the full release next month?
[06:08] <lewix> nn:E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:08] <lewix> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:09] <freakabcd> gizban, sure
[06:09] <tristanmike> lewix, close synaptic
[06:09] <nn> lewix: Gotta do it as root, try sudo apt-get install irssi
[06:09] <MadMerC> how can i change permissions on a folder from a term ??
[06:09] <tristanmike> gizban, it's pretty much there now, only 3 days till release
[06:09] <nn> err irssi-text
[06:09] <freakabcd> MadMerC, chmod
[06:10] <lewix> Package irssi is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:10] <lewix> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:10] <lewix> is only available from another source
[06:10] <lewix> E: Package irssi has no installation candidate
[06:10] <nn> madmerc: Example (simpler syntax) chmod u=rwx,g=rx,o-rwx filename
[06:10] <nn> lewix: yea it's irssi-text, sorry
[06:10] <biberao> help PLS
[06:10] <lewix> nn: ?
[06:10] <lewix> ah alright
[06:10] <kevin> hi biberao - sorry i didn't see your pm - i've added some comments there
[06:10] <nn> lewix: sudo apt-get install irssi-text
[06:11] <nn> lewix: if not, try sacrificing a farm animal
[06:11] <uscg_corey> i dont get why its telling me GTK isnt install, obviously it is
[06:11] <tdshiv> i am having trouble getting mp3s to play. i am new to linux and am not sure how to solve this problem
[06:11] <tristanmike> !tell tdshiv about mp3
[06:11] <uscg_corey> checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.6.0... no
[06:11] <uscg_corey> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[06:11] <tristanmike> tdshiv, check your pm from ubotu for more information on mp3 playback
[06:12] <Mortal`> How come Apache doesn't use the PHP module properly? I've located libphp5.so and as far as I can tell it does pass the IfModule mod_php5.c test (since it seems .php files are added as application/x-httpd-php), but they aren't run through the PHP-parser, instead I get them as downloadable sources. Does anyone know what could be the problem?
[06:12] <nn> uscg_corey: You need -dev probably
[06:12] <lewix> nn: "it's already the newest version" I guess I have it already
[06:12] <nn> lewix: yeup, just fire up 'irssi' then :)
[06:12] <nn> maybe inside 'screen'
[06:12] <Nalle> is this correct place for asking help for 6.06 RC upgrade problem (simple one, I think)?
[06:12] <Nalle> (if I even have a problem - now running much longer than last time)
[06:13] <tristanmike> Nalle, you want #ubuntu+1
[06:13] <tdshiv> thanks you trist
[06:13] <Nalle> damn, got it again
[06:13] <arcade> Probably wrong channel, but I'll try. :)  Need help with some NFS tuning.  'terra' - is my diskserver and 'shiny' is my client.  When I start to copy from one machine to the other, aprox 25-30 packets is sent.  Then there is a two second pause, then some thousand packets, then a pause (probably io-wait on the server), then the rest then a 2 second pause, then 25-30 packets .. and then the copy is finished. .. if it's .. say, a 400MB file.  It's the initia
[06:13] <Nalle> it seems my Armada M700/3Com net card drops connection every once in a while
[06:13] <Nalle> how could I get help troubleshooting NIC?
[06:13] <Nalle> oh, right, noone sees me..
[06:13] <Nalle> 3CCFE575BT
[06:13] <Nalle> it seems my Armada M700/3Com net card drops connection every once in a while
[06:13] <Nalle> how could I get help troubleshooting NIC?
[06:14] <Nalle> ok, cheers ubuntu+1
[06:14] <nn> Is it bad to cut the orange/green pairs in cat5 patch cable and 'ghetto engineer' a cross-over cable?
[06:14] <Bonaldo2000> IF a printer has an IPP adress can one be sure that it works with IPP and that it is enabled?
[06:14] <nn> using uhm scotch tape? :P
[06:14] <AngryElf> is libdvdcss2 going to work on an amd64?
[06:14] <Mortal`> How come Apache doesn't use the PHP module properly? I've located libphp5.so and as far as I can tell it does pass the IfModule mod_php5.c test (since it seems .php files are added as application/x-httpd-php), but .php-files aren't run through the PHP-parser, instead I get them as downloadable sources. Does anyone know what the problem could be?
[06:14] <biberao> hello
[06:14] <biberao> help
[06:15] <MadMerC>  i tried the chmod thing but it doesnt seem to change it
[06:15] <lewix_> yo
[06:15] <shriphani> hello !
[06:16] <shriphani> irssi-text is working
[06:16] <kevin> MadMerc - if you're changing directory permissions and you want to change permissions of all files in the directory, you'll have to use the -R (recursive) switch on chmod command.
[06:16] <lewix_> im trying out irssi
[06:16] <shriphani> ok
[06:16] <shriphani> it is quite shit like
[06:16] <freakabcd> uscg_corey, yes, you don;t have the -dev package for gtk
[06:16] <shriphani> i mean i wonder how it would be without gnome
[06:17] <MadMerC> Kevin: what i want to do is make it so my second drive on this pc is able to be written to from my networked windows machine
[06:17] <shriphani> 1
[06:17] <shriphani> this is so errm. different
[06:17] <Bubbles> hi all
[06:17] <shriphani> isnt it lewix_
[06:17] <lewix> nn: if you want to switch channel , how do you do
[06:17] <nickrud> AngryElf, yes, if you use the one on from restricted formats
[06:17] <shriphani> i think /join #channelname
[06:17] <shriphani> did it work
[06:17] <Bubbles> some dutch or belgian people here?
[06:18] <nickrud> !nl
[06:18] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[06:18] <shriphani> can anyone see what i am typing ????
[06:18] <Tyche> Hello everyone...has anyone installed the CounterStrike:Source Server?
[06:18] <NoelJB> OK, verified that Xubuntu booting from CD, insertion of cardbus nics works perfectly.  Booting from Xubuntu installed to HD, fails due to inability to map cards to memory.  That's about as much time as I have to waste on this, so if there is no one around able to help, I'm off to reformat and install something else.
[06:18] <kevin> MadMerc - so sharing via SMB?
[06:18] <lewix> it's kind of confusing
[06:18] <shriphani> yeh
[06:18] <shriphani> lewix:???????
[06:18] <lewix_> hmm
[06:18] <shriphani> you there ?
[06:18] <Znuff> I seem to be missing /usr/share/X11/rgb, anyone knows what I did wrong ?
[06:18] <Tyche> NoelJB you shouldn't have so much attitude
[06:18] <MadMerC> Kevin :  Yes i am and i can access the drive from the win box but i cant write to it
[06:18] <lewix_> im done with that lol..it's not for me
[06:18] <lewix_> quit
[06:19] <lewix> ouhla I was back in the 19th century
[06:19] <shriphani> can anyone tell me if they can see what i am typing ?
[06:19] <nickrud> Znuff, it's in /usr/lib/X11/
[06:19] <NoelJB> Tyche: you spend most of the few weekends that you have at home (rather than travelling) getting Ubuntu installed on a machine that was happily running RH before you decided to run Ubuntu, and you tell me about attitude.
[06:19] <MadMerC> i can shriphani
[06:19] <Linuxiac> I see you, shriphani!
[06:19] <shriphani> thank you MadMerC
[06:19] <shriphani> thank you Linuxiac
[06:19] <lewix> what's the best msn client out there?
[06:19] <Znuff> nickrud, uhm, any clue why X looks at /usr/share/X11 instead /lib/ ?
[06:20] <shriphani> it has a new feel irssi-text
[06:20] <MadMerC> how do u make the writing red ??
[06:20] <Tyche> NoelJB we are not here to be technical support, we are all here to help each other.
[06:20] <NoelJB> Tyche: plus, I've posted more details earlier, as well as helpful tips for VMware/Dapper users.
[06:20] <shriphani> GAIm i guess lewix
[06:20] <Linuxiac> Honestly, folks, I am running Kubuntu!
[06:20] <shriphani> how do i get this thing to ctcp ?
[06:20] <nickrud> Znuff, not at all
[06:20] <kevin> MadMerc - OK, I think you need to look at share permissions in the /etc/samba/smb.conf configuration file.
[06:20] <NoelJB> Tyche: that's fine.  But please note the channel topic: "OFFICIAL Ubuntu Support Channel".
[06:20] <nickrud> MadMerC, by typing the person's name in the message
[06:21] <lewix> shriphani, you know what i hate about it? you can't even connect without being seen
[06:21] <shriphani> lol
[06:21] <shriphani> but it feels good
[06:21] <shriphani> i mean this way you can improvise on bash shell usage
[06:21] <Linuxiac> WOW! but, on my other 75 GNU/Linux computers, most are running Kubuntu, but, dual boot with PCLinux (sort of Mandriva, on steroids, !)
[06:21] <shriphani> nickrud: tell me how to get this to ctcp
[06:21] <lewix> i like to connect on msn without nobody knowing to chek if I wanna talk or not
[06:21] <Tyche> NoelJB Your are right it is a support channel, to work things out. We cannot give you step by step everytime.
[06:21] <shriphani> Act: 1
[06:22] <shriphani> 1
[06:22] <Soir> I run Xubuntu. I've never been happier (except with a console) :)
[06:22] <nickrud> shriphani, never looked that up
[06:22] <shriphani> ok
[06:22] <whl> how config shorewall
[06:22] <MadMerC> Kevin : sorry i closed this by accident where did u say that config file is ??
[06:22] <kevin> hi MadMerc - it should be in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:22] <NoelJB> Tyche: Not looking for step by step.  Pointing out a problem where Xubuntu booted from CD works, and after installing it to HD, it fails.  Repeatedly.  Reproducible.  In a very specific manner that I have documented, and reproduced by spending hours on it.
[06:22] <MadMerC> kevin : how do i make my messages red ??
[06:23] <Linuxiac> whl: Why don'tl you just run IPCOP, instead?  It configs in a GUI, is more up-to-date, most of the time, than Shorewall, and is a fork from 2003...
[06:23] <shriphani> MadMerC: whic chat client ?
[06:23] <kevin> MadMerC - er, I don't know!
[06:23] <NoelJB> Tyche: and this is part of ubuntu at the core, not XFCE related.
[06:23] <AngryElf> nikrud , it says there's a architecture conflict, the download libdvdcss.deb is i386 and my kernel is amd64, is there an amd64 version?
[06:24] <shriphani> !
[06:24] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, shriphani
[06:24] <shriphani> !tell me about irssi-text
[06:24] <Tyche> NoelJB That isn't the problem I have, I think it is great you have taken the time and it sounds as though you know what is going on, it was the comment, and maybe it was the way I took it, "help me or forget Ubuntu"
[06:24] <shriphani> !tell shriphani abut irssi
[06:24] <uscg_corey> anyone recommend a CD burning utitlity that supports disc iimage burning?
[06:24] <whl> LinuxiacL:i am beginner ,where can i get IPCOP
[06:24] <MadMerC> im using x-chat and sometimes wen someone talks to me it is in red while everything else is black
[06:25] <lewix> whl, i know a good place
[06:25] <NoelJB> Tyche: actually, it is just forget Ubuntu for that machine, because I am running out of time to play with it.  I have ubuntu running on other machines.
[06:25] <nn> uscg_corey: k3b
[06:25] <mark_> how do I speedup Wine?
[06:25] <aLPHa_LeaK> MadMerC: maybe he is using color?
[06:25] <uscg_corey> k3b?
[06:25] <nickrud> uscg_corey, if you already have the iso on the hard drive, right click it & select write to disk
[06:25] <tristanmike> uscg_corey, k3b or Gnomebaker
[06:25] <Linuxiac> AngryElf: My LUG pals rave about SUSE on the AMD64, but, all I have is a DEC Alpha, os, wouldn't know...
[06:25] <nn> mark_: more ram, new processor, etc
[06:25] <whl> lewix:where?
[06:25] <redguy> MadMerC: like this?
[06:25] <Tyche> NoelJB then I understand. I have done that before. I'm sorry for giving you such a raz.
[06:25] <uscg_corey> nickrud, i just have the bin/cue
[06:25] <shawnz> i'm having a bit of trouble upgrading from warty to breezy...
[06:25] <MadMerC> aLPHa_LeaK : that came up in red too
[06:25] <mark_> so is hardware dependant
[06:26] <MadMerC> redguy: yes like that
[06:26] <tristanmike> MadMerC, that's when anyone says your name
[06:26] <redguy> this happens when somebody uses your nick in, MadMerC
[06:26] <tristanmike> if you say mine, it will appear in red to me
[06:26] <MadMerC> oh ok
[06:26] <MadMerC> kewl
[06:26] <Tyche> NoelJB it is just a little frustrating to me when people download install and expect everything to work every time on everymachine and then come in here wanting answers or Ubuntu sucks type attitude.
[06:27] <NoelJB> Tyche: don't worry.  it doesn't suck.  :-)
[06:27] <lewix> my  wireless connection with ubuntu is slower than my internet connection, Is it common ?
[06:27] <Hawkins> My Live-CD of Dapper 6.06 RC won't start up so I could install it. It makes my screen go into sleep. Could somebody help, please.
[06:27] <aLPHa_LeaK> MadMerC: that is because i am "highlighting" you.
[06:27] <AngryElf> Linuxiac, LUG pals?
[06:27] <nickrud> uscg_corey, you probably need to install bchunk
[06:27] <ompaul> Hawkins, is that a laptop?
[06:27] <aLPHa_LeaK> MadMerC: its so that you can see who is addressing you
[06:28] <Hawkins> Nope
[06:28] <uscg_corey> im trying out gnomebaker
[06:28] <shriphani> one bad experience
[06:28] <NoelJB> lewix: depends.  type of wireless?  wireless latency is far higher than wired, so often file transfer protocols take a serious hit.
[06:28] <shriphani> i aint using that until my head cracks up
[06:28] <Hawkins> Quite up to date Desktop for daily use
[06:28] <MadMerC> Kevin how do i restart samba ???
[06:28] <ompaul> Hawkins, which make of machine/proc/ram and video card?
[06:28] <NoelJB> MadMerC: there is an init script for it under /etc/init.d/samba, IIRC.
[06:28] <Linuxiac> AngryElf:  Linux Users Groups pals... http://golug.org Huskerlug.org http://leap-cf.org
[06:29] <Tyche> NoelJB I know it doesn't suck! =) No hard feelings?
[06:29] <NoelJB> Tyche: :)
[06:29] <ompaul> !tell Hawkins about bootoptions
[06:29] <shawnz> sup Patchou
[06:29] <AngryElf> how about XviD on amd64...no such thing as w64codecs?
[06:29] <ompaul> Hawkins, read the page ubotu sent you
[06:29] <AngryElf> so says restricted formats? :(
[06:29] <lewix> NoelJB, I don't know the type of wireless
[06:29] <Hawkins> ompaul, Abit MB , Athlon 64 , 2 Gig DDR , ATI X850
[06:29] <Patchou> heya
[06:29] <Linuxiac> Just ran the full upgrade, worked really well!  Kubuntu-5.10
[06:29] <marzec> greetings
[06:29] <marzec> quick question
[06:30] <marzec> i just connected an ide hdd to my pc
[06:30] <marzec> but i have no idea what device it is assigned to in /dev
[06:30] <Hawkins> ompaul, rgr
[06:30] <redloff> marzec, cat /proc/partitions
[06:30] <marzec> ah thanks
[06:30] <nickrud> marzec, type sudo fdisk -l
[06:30] <lewix> NoelJB, And I still don't get why files transfer protocols in windows dont take a serious hit
[06:30] <marzec> thanks a lot
[06:31] <Juhaz> AngryElf, you don't need w32codecs for xvid
[06:31] <Patchou> I'm currently upgrading from warty to breezy and the dist-upgrade fails with /var/cache/apt/archives/xkeyboard-config_0.6-5breezy1_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:32] <Patchou> would it be somebody here able to help me with this? :)
[06:32] <nickrud> Patchou, you can't go from warty to breezy, you have to install hoary in between
[06:32] <AngryElf> Juhaz, what do i need for it then?
[06:32] <Patchou> ha, that would be a very good reason then. thank you very much :)
[06:33] <marzec> one more dumb question
[06:33] <marzec> how can i determine the free diskspace on a hd?
[06:33] <gulugulu> dd
[06:33] <tristanmike> marzec, df -h
[06:33] <marzec> thank you
[06:33] <tam> hi all, having issues with dapper being a vncserver, basically im connecting to the server fine, but its not starting up my environment at all. i have startkde & in my .vnc/xstartup file and everything works and i know its connected. anyone got any ideas what may be wrong?
[06:33] <gulugulu> ddu
[06:33] <Jerich> can anybody help me out, my laptop froze when I was updating my packages with synaptics, now gnome stall when it starts, how can I finish the update?
[06:34] <nickrud> Jerich, dapper?
[06:34] <Jerich> nickrud yeah
[06:34] <wojtek> hello my niggas
[06:34] <nickrud> Jerich, it's a real pain. #ubuntu+1 ask there
[06:34] <ompaul> Jerich, log into a terminal and do >> sudo apt-get -f install<<  CTRL ALT F1 for the terminal normal login and exit at the end or you can type >sudo reboot<
[06:34] <marzec> ok last dumb question
[06:35] <marzec> how can i determine how much space a certain directory eats up ( plus subfolders )
[06:35] <nickrud> marzec, du
[06:35] <marzec> thanks
[06:35] <tam> marzec: du -h /folder/name
[06:35] <AngryElf> Juhaz, if it's not w32codecs, what is it that i need for xvid?
[06:35] <marzec> sorry for all that dump questions
[06:35] <ompaul> marzec, that is a good question, du -h << to get the result in human readable form
[06:35] <nickrud> marzec, gotta start somewhere :)
[06:35] <ompaul> nickrud, say it isn't so
[06:36] <marzec> it's not like i never used lunix :) it's just been a veeery long while since i last touched it heh
[06:36] <nickrud> ompaul, yes, if you're using the 686 kernel
[06:36] <pianoboy3333> Just like there's lock screen, is there someway if you're in the terminal to just lock that? not logging out though
[06:36] <Juhaz> AngryElf, ffmpeg should handle it just fine
[06:36] <AngryElf> Juhaz, well ffmpeg is installed and it complains about missing codecs
[06:37] <nickrud> AngryElf, try another player; xine played a dvd for me that mplayer said was missing codecs
[06:37] <Bonaldo2000> aarrgg...pls help me with my printer problem! Can anyone hear me! No one has answered any of my last 6 posts!
[06:38] <nickrud> Bonaldo2000, no cups experts around at the moment ;(
[06:38] <freakabcd> Bonaldo2000, i would love to! Alas, i never owned a printer :(
[06:38] <exhale> speaking about cups... how do i uninstall it?
[06:38] <hastesaver> Bonaldo2000, try the wiki / try the forums / ask later . I haven't even got my printer working (it's an obscure local one with no drivers) :)
[06:38] <Bonaldo2000> nickrud, hmm...ok nothing to do about that right now I guess then!
[06:39] <hastesaver> !print
[06:39] <ubotu> print is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[06:39] <ompaul> Bonaldo2000, what was the question again?
[06:39] <whl> no hpdeskjet 1180c driver
[06:39] <Bonaldo2000> hastesaver, yeah...I have browsed around the forums alot!
[06:39] <Bonaldo2000> ompaul, my question is here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182784
[06:40] <Bonaldo2000> ompaul, I am quite sure it is a simple thing I am doing wrong, since I am pretty much a n00b
[06:40] <whl> who can halp me, no hpdeskjet 1180c driver
[06:40] <Bonaldo2000> ompaul, I simply dont really know the right way to connect to a network printer from ubuntu
[06:40] <Hawkins> ompaul, I tried with acpi option and now screen didn't go into power-saving mode, but I've got an error message: " Failed to start the X server "
[06:41] <ompaul> Hawkins, so in a terminal try >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< and try VESA as a card (as long as your not on a mac)
[06:41] <hastesaver> whl, I don't know the right answer, but sometimes drivers of other printers will work for yours. You could ask some people who used that printer for more popular alternatives.
[06:42] <Hso> hey there! :P
[06:42] <Hso> Can someone help me mount a hdd using the 5.10(breezy) livecd, please? I just want to be able to access the files, not write to the drives(which I hear it troublesome)
[06:43] <whl> hastesaver :i try
[06:43] <ompaul> Bonaldo2000, try system administration printing, then choose new printer and try network printer see what you can get out of that
[06:43] <ompaul> !tell Hso about ntfs
[06:43] <Mortal`> How come Apache doesn't use the PHP module properly? I've located libphp5.so and as far as I can tell it does pass the IfModule mod_php5.c test (since it seems .php files are added as application/x-httpd-php), but .php-files aren't run through the PHP-parser, instead I get them as downloadable sources. Does anyone know what the problem could be?
[06:43] <Hso> I just tried doing "mkdir /mnt/windows" in the terminal, but it says I don't have permission to do so... how do I change permissions? X_X
[06:43] <ompaul> Hso, read the message from ubotu that will tell you all
[06:43] <Hso> cheers, ompaul  :P
[06:43] <dmbt> i have a really stupid question
[06:43] <dmbt> lets say, my network has ipv6 support
[06:43] <Mortal`> !tell Mortal` about ntfs
[06:44] <dmbt> how do i get ubuntu to get the correct ipv6 addr?
[06:44] <ompaul> !tell Mortal`  about msg the bot
[06:44] <nickrud> whl, maybe http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/hp-list/2005q1/006267.html can help
[06:44] <hastesaver> Hso, and if it's not an NTFS partition, you can also try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive
[06:44] <Bonaldo2000> ompaul, but thats what I have done! :-) I have it set up to IPP on the adress that my printer specifies! But nothing happens when I try to print...I can ping it over the network so I have contact...
[06:44] <lewix> http://kmess.sourceforge.net/download/
[06:45] <NoelJB> Mortal`: you need to configure apache for PHP.  I don't have time to look it up, but you should be able to find it via google or ask in #apache.
[06:45] <ompaul> Bonaldo2000, can you telnet to the printer?
[06:45] <newbie53> can someone help me with airport extreme?
[06:45] <NoelJB> It isn't just loading the module.  There is other configuration.
[06:45] <whl> nickrud,thank
[06:45] <ompaul> Bonaldo2000, issue the command "telnet IP-For-Printer" and see if you can access it
[06:45] <Hawkins> ompaul, I reconfigured X like you said and let everything else alone. but changed ati -> vesa. After that used startx and now my monitor is in power saving mode once again, any ideas ?
[06:45] <salah> what is the name of the php plugin for eclipse?
[06:45] <Bonaldo2000> ompaul, ok will try, to secs
[06:45] <nickrud> whl, yw. I hope it works
[06:46] <newbie53> anyone please
[06:46] <Bonaldo2000> ompaul, yes I can...however it then asks me for login information and I dont know what to use....
[06:46] <whl> nickrud, i try
[06:46] <ompaul> Bonaldo2000, try root and enter
[06:46] <nickrud> whl, the 1120c should be in the printer admin tool
[06:47] <ompaul> Bonaldo2000, or point a web browser at the printer also
[06:47] <Bonaldo2000> ompaul, I have already tried pointing my browser at it...and it works...I get a fine gui where I can see different options!
[06:48] <Bonaldo2000> ompaul, it was from here that I saw what IPP adress to use...
[06:48] <ompaul> Bonaldo2000, so can you take a screen shot of that screen and paste it in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:48] <rix> hi
[06:49] <Bonaldo2000> ompaul, what screen...just the first one that shows when I log on to the printer via the web-browser?
[06:49] <lewix> i have gnome and im using ubuntu how can I switch to kde
[06:49] <paul_> I was wondering if there is an app for ubuntu that will play internet radio stations much like itunes or napster does? I read that banshee does however the one ubuntu repository has does not play internet radio. What I would like is the suggestions of good apps that will do this. I like amarok for what it will do however no internet radio staions.
[06:49] <nickrud> lewix, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop (aptitude so it's easy to remove when you find you hate it :)
[06:50] <rix> i'd like to know if the new kernel 2.6.16.23-386 works fine with a toshiba satellite m50-126 with ati x600se or there are some problems, like xorg?
[06:50] <nickrud> paul_, try streamtuner and beep-media-player
[06:50] <lewix> nickrud, is it that bad?
[06:50] <paul_> thanks nickrud
[06:50] <nickrud> lewix, it was a joke, a lot of people like it a lot
[06:50] <ompaul> Bonaldo2000, one that offers some configuration options
[06:51] <lewix> I don't get why they make software only for specific desktop like msn messenger only for kde
[06:51] <Bonaldo2000> ompaul, ok..
[06:51] <Scognito> hi
[06:51] <nickrud> they use different toolkits to write to the screen; it's easier to just pick one and write software with that toolkit only
[06:52] <Donvinzk> lewix: because they want to lock the market ?
[06:52] <Scognito> i use dapper, and i noticed that my xorg.conf uses VESA as videocard driver, but i have matrox... does someone why it didn't detected the card?
[06:52] <funky> hi
[06:52] <lewix> nickrud, it's free toigh
[06:52] <lewix> Donvinzk, its free tough
[06:52] <Scognito> and/or if is ok to change adding mga
[06:52] <tuskernini> hi there all..
[06:52] <bobbyd> hi
[06:52] <ramvi> I've just installed ubuntu onto a laptop (compaq nc8230). It is (suppost to be) multibooting with windows xp (with novell). When the computer starts grub shows, and I can start ubuntu as many times as I'd like. But if I choose and start window, the next time grub is suppost to show, the computer just reboots and I have to reinstall ubuntu to get anything working. What do I do?!
[06:52] <lewix> nickrud, what do i do if I want to remove it and to switch back to gnome
[06:52] <amphi> lewix: you can run a kde program under gnome and vice versa, just some of the 'desktop integration' stuff will break
[06:52] <ompaul> lewix, you can make a port of it if you have such a deep and abiding interest :-)
[06:52] <nickrud> Scognito, changing to mga should be fine
[06:53] <ramvi> I've tried with both breezy and dapper
[06:53] <nickrud> lewix, sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop
[06:53] <Scognito> nickrud, ok tnx
[06:53] <tuskernini> has anyone tried to write to a external usb drive while using Live CD?
[06:53] <funky> I can listen any video from firefox during/after using rythmbox, I have to restart firefox first. Does anyone know any solution ?
[06:53] <Scognito> i'll do from CLI hoping it doesn't screws up next updateds
[06:53] <lewix> nickrud, what's aptitude ?
[06:53] <lewix> amphi, thank you
[06:53] <funky> I can't* sorry
[06:54] <tuskernini> *** has anyone tried to write to a external usb drive while using Live CD? ***
[06:54] <nickrud> lewix, a different way of installing packages that keeps track of what package needs what; when a used package is no longer needed, it removes it automatically
[06:54] <blacks> Hi, I'm using dapper, is there any way to get a previous version of a .deb if it's no longer in the repo?
[06:54] <nickrud> blacks, you should probably ask that on #ubuntu+1
[06:54] <lewix> ouah
[06:54] <blacks> will do, thanks
[06:54] <blacks> I'd imagine the answer would be the same for dapper as it is for the current release though
[06:55] <roast> blacks: the deb doesn't exist in dapper, you mean?
[06:55] <roast> blacks: or do you want an older version?
[06:55] <blacks> the new version of the deb exists, but I'd like to access the previous version, if possible
[06:55] <roast> blacks: in /etc/apt/sources.list, copy every line, and for every occurance of "dapper", change it to "breezy" or whatever repository you're trying to access
[06:55] <Abo> is ubuntu the most used distro for desktop?
[06:55] <roast> blacks: if you're trying to get to hoary, include the corresponding lines for breezy
[06:56] <ramvi> I bet there's something I can du in the boot dir? Anyone knows? I really have to get this working, my dad needs his laptop...
[06:56] <tuskernini> tuskernini *** has anyone tried to write to a external usb drive while using Live CD? ***
[06:56] <roast> blacks: when you try to install it, apt-get install emacs21/breezy
[06:56] <blacks> sorry, I meant the previous dapper revision of the deb, the one I had before I upgraded the package
[06:56] <roast> blacks: or the like
[06:56] <si9o> tuskernini, you have to mount it
[06:56] <Juice23> can i please get help?
[06:56] <ompaul> tuskernini, care not to repeat - and tell people what format is on that disk
[06:56] <Juice23> someone
[06:56] <nickrud> blacks, that's a very dangerous thing unless you know exactly what you are doing
[06:56] <ompaul> !helpme
[06:56] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[06:56] <Bonaldo2000> ompaul, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14780
[06:56] <Juice23> help?
[06:56] <roast> blacks: it's safer than just downloading the deb yourself, but doing it this way will allow apt to resolve the dependencies for you
[06:57] <blacks> nickrud, I know, but I'm having serious stability issues with this new compiz stuff, I'm not expecting support for it because it's unsupported, but have heard there are stability issues with the new nvidia drivers
[06:57] <ompaul> Bonaldo2000, what are the options under tcp/ip?
[06:57] <rendo> Small question, last time I asked someone gave me the answer so I know it's pretty simple, just need to know how to fix this error. checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[06:57] <nomin> kaffeine crashes when i click "save stream".  Can someone tell me why this is?
[06:57] <Juice23> ok i got ubuntu running on my computer and i dont know how to get to the windows x up
[06:57] <tuskernini> ompaul, i mounted the disk, and it is fat... but when it mounts, it is e read only..
[06:57] <Juice23> its at the dos-like screen
[06:58] <roast> blacks: I've done this on multiple occasions. people seem to think it's bad voodoo :)
[06:58] <nickrud> blacks, maybe someone on #xgl-ubuntu (ubuntu-xgl ?) knows about your issue
[06:58] <ompaul> tuskernini, so you can umount it, then tell me is it fat or vfat 32
[06:58] <Juice23> anyone know how to get the ubunto desktop up?
[06:58] <lewix> nickrud, once it's installed, what do I do 9sorry)
[06:58] <Juice23> ubuntu*
[06:58] <Surfnkid> ctrl alt f7
[06:58] <tuskernini> i recon it is fat32
[06:58] <Bonaldo2000> ompaul, I can change its IP-adress in there...
[06:58] <nickrud> blacks, especially since there's no compiz in breezy
[06:58] <Hawkins> ompaul, my blank screen problem is solved, I got another suggestion from different channel and it worked. I edited xorg.conf via console and replaced ati with radeon from driver line. Big thanks for your help!
[06:58] <tuskernini> ompaul, i will quickly get it
[06:58] <ompaul> Bonaldo2000, no other issues
[06:58] <roast> nickrud: it's in hoary?
[06:59] <blacks> hmm looks like there's both ubuntu-xgl and xgl-ubuntu, heheh.  Thanks for the heads-up
[06:59] <nickrud> roast, no, xgl is dapper only
[06:59] <Bonaldo2000> ompaul, no other issues..what do you mean?
[06:59] <roast> nickrud: ah.
[06:59] <ompaul> Hawkins, interesting
[06:59] <roast> blacks: yea, I take it back. _that's_ unsafe.
[06:59] <whl> how can write to ntfs
[06:59] <nickrud> lewix, now log out, and select kde on the login screen under sessions
[06:59] <ompaul> Hawkins, which card?
[06:59] <lewix> thanks nickrud
[06:59] <rendo> Anyone please? checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[06:59] <rendo>   What do I need to install to get that to go away so it works. :/
[06:59] <roast> blacks: I thought you were trying to access an older repository that has its own set of old packages
[07:00] <Juice23> can i get help with installing ubuntu?
[07:00] <blacks> no, just trying to access a package that was purged (not sure if that's the correct term) from the dapper repo, because a new version was released
[07:00] <ompaul> rendo, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:00] <roast> nickrud: heh
[07:00] <rendo> Thank you ompaul, I knew it was something I forgots :D
[07:00] <D1> is there a way to get evolution to make a "cluster of appointments" on one instance and just pick all the days that are within that cluster?
[07:00] <roast> blacks: that may or may not work out _well_. you can force it by downloading the deb yourself, manually, and dpkg -i'ing it
[07:01] <rendo> BWAHAH it works.
[07:01] <ompaul> roast, I woud have to agree with nickrud  it is very underdocumented
[07:01] <lllllll> hello, is there a way to change the console font while logged in? from the command line?
[07:01] <blacks> roast: right, but I don't know where to download it from, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/ has only the most current version
[07:01] <lllllll> i would like to make it smaller so that more text is visible in the console?
[07:01] <roast> blacks: but yes, I'd recommend what nickrud suggested; see if it's a known issue with a partial fix
[07:01] <blacks> I'm investigating that right now
[07:02] <lllllll> anyone?
[07:02] <nickrud> blacks, and you can configure apt to not remove old versions of packages, that way you'll have the deb in /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:02] <roast> ompaul: that is true. it's a way around the booleans that apt/dpkg uses to determine compatible dependencies. a 'hack', one may say. :)
[07:02] <amphi> lllllll: yes
[07:02] <blacks> nickrud, nice, I'll have to check that out
[07:02] <lllllll> amphi: can you tell me?
[07:02] <ompaul> roast, this be the horrible truth
[07:03] <Juice23> amphi can you help me?
[07:03] <amphi> lllllll: more lines, or more lines and columns ?
[07:03] <lllllll> amphi: just more lines.
[07:03] <tuskernini> ompaul, how do i look to see what fat it is while mounted in a live cd?
[07:04] <Surfnkid> lcould anyone please tlel me how to get the fans going on this laptop
[07:04] <bit_doidao> please! how to reestart the keyboard settgins? my letter "p" inst working!
[07:04] <rendo> Juice23, check your private messages.
[07:04] <amphi> lllllll: consolechars -f <some_font>, where some_font is a font in /usr/share/consolefonts
[07:04] <bit_doidao> only in this user!
[07:05] <Hawkins> ompaul, ATI Radeon x850 XT PE , it's PCI version
[07:05] <Lorandka> hello
[07:05] <rendo> Sigh, GTK 2.x is required. How do I install GTK :/
[07:05] <Lorandka> where can i locate the config file for x window??
[07:05] <freakabcd> Lorandka, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:05] <amphi> lllllll: eg. consolechars -f lat0-10
[07:05] <lllllll> how do i scroll up while in a console, is there anyw ay?
[07:05] <Lorandka> thanks :)
[07:05] <scifi> finally installed a network card after my usb>ethernet adaptor failed :P
[07:06] <freakabcd> lllllll, shift+PgUp
[07:06] <hastesaver> bit_doidao, has the keyboard layout been changed? the keymaps? Or what? Try "setxbmap us" (if you want a US layout, of course)
[07:06] <lllllll> amphi: thank you
[07:06] <amphi> lllllll: as long as you haven't switched VTs
[07:06] <lllllll> amphi: is there a font you would like to recommend?
[07:06] <freakabcd> only  a little bit of scrolling, but will suffice for most people
[07:06] <lllllll> amphi: what do you mean?
[07:06] <scifi> but had some issues again because my router and network swicth werent talking to each other.....eventually sorted now thi :P
[07:06] <scifi> tho*
[07:06] <freakabcd> lllllll, if you need more scrolling, you need to use a pager like less
[07:06] <lllllll> amphi: ah, too late
[07:06] <amphi> lllllll: the VT's scrollback buffer is lost after a VT switch
[07:06] <AngryElf> whowever said rebooting linux doesn't work is WRONG and needs to be kicked inthe nads
[07:07] <lllllll> amphi: i like small fonts
[07:07] <ompaul> tuskernini, forget it it is most likely a vfat parition, lets work with that assumption, make sure you have no terminals or nautilus or anything pointing to it and run this command in a termninal >> sudo umount /name/partition
[07:07] <amphi> AngryElf: doesn't work for what?
[07:07] <bit_doidao> hastesaver, probaly is some thing with the shortkeys settings. i had changed it
[07:07] <nickrud> AngryElf, rebooting is not wrong, just not needed except for hardware issues sometimes
[07:07] <ompaul> Nouvel, TURN THAT OFF
[07:07] <Nouvel> done
[07:07] <tuskernini> ompaul, i am using knoppix but it shouldnt make a diference...
[07:08] <hastesaver> !tell Nouvel about away
[07:08] <Thinjon100> Anyone know the KDM equivalent custom-settings file to Gnome's "/etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom" ?
[07:08] <Juice23> how do i load gnome?
[07:08] <gil> will someone please help me with k3b mp3 support?
[07:08] <ompaul> Nouvel, ;-) thanks,  do not use away messages in this channel tharere are almost 800 in here we would never use it if all did it
[07:08] <Juice23> helppppp
[07:08] <ompaul> tuskernini, it does I was going to make a comment on that
[07:08] <uscg_corey> anyone know how i can resolve this issue? configure: error: unable to find the GTK+ library
[07:08] <tuskernini> ompaul, ok i unmounted it
[07:08] <freakabcd> uscg_corey, did you install the dev package?
[07:09] <uscg_corey> i beleive so
[07:09] <rendo> Juice23
[07:09] <rendo> Look at your private messages :/
[07:09] <ompaul> Juice23, that gets you banned if you want to do it again, I am as you can see busy - so you can wait a few minutes if I know the answer I will get to it
[07:09] <bobbyd> gil, what's the problem
[07:09] <ompaul> rendo, its all yours :-)
[07:09] <tuskernini> ompaul, i used ubuntu before but couldnt write to my internal hdd, with knoppix i can, i am using the live dvd.
[07:09] <JohnStax> hi, anybody know where to get Flash drivers for AMD64 ??
[07:09] <amphi> lllllll: you might want to look at /etc/console-tools/config
[07:09] <scifi> neone use k-3d here ?
[07:09] <uscg_corey> whats the dev packae name?
[07:09] <bobbyd> gil, you need to install mp3 support in k3b, search for k3b in synaptic, or whatever package manager you use...
[07:10] <freakabcd> uscg_corey, i dunno man. lemme check
[07:10] <tuskernini> ompaul, should i start with ubuntu live?
[07:10] <nickrud> uscg_corey, did you do sudo apt-get build-dep mail-notification ?
[07:10] <lllllll> amphi: alrigth
[07:10] <Scognito> hi
[07:10] <Juice23> HOW DO I LOAD THE GNOME DESKTOP????
[07:10] <Scognito> just changed vesa with mga
[07:10] <Scognito> now X is a lot faster
[07:10] <uscg_corey> nickrud, it says it cant find source when i do that
[07:10] <Scognito> but fonts are blurred
[07:10] <ompaul> tuskernini, well writing to ntfs can wreck it - just be aware of it, do this, sudo mount -t vfat umask=000 /dev/partitionname /mount/nameyouwant
[07:10] <bobbyd> Juice23, please dont' shout
[07:10] <amphi> Scognito: vesa is t3h sl0w
[07:10] <Scognito> even with subpixel activated
[07:10] <Scognito> amphi, :)
[07:10] <lllllll> amphi: it says nos uch command
[07:11] <nickrud> uscg_corey, then you need to enable the repos. read !components for why you have to do it, and !repos for how
[07:11] <ompaul> Juice23, your doing that the wrong way - okay - keep it up and your out
[07:11] <freakabcd> uscg_corey, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[07:11] <lllllll> amphi: what is the smallest font you can think of?
[07:11] <bobbyd> Juice23, just install ubuntu-desktop then startx
[07:11] <Juice23> im sorry just no one woll help me
[07:11] <Scognito> with vesa and subpixel activated it worked like a chram
[07:11] <scifi> whats that killall process for restarting gnome interface so that newly installed applications show up in the menu list ?
[07:11] <Lorandka> what is the name of the console text editor?
[07:11] <amphi> lllllll: look in /usr/share/consolefonts
[07:11] <ompaul> tuskernini, the knoppix guys give good support have you tried them?
[07:11] <Juice23> what is ubuntu-desktop?
[07:11] <lllllll> amphi: YES BUT WAT IS A SMALL ONE
[07:11] <bobbyd> Juice23, ask a decent question then, what have you installed, what's the exact problem etc?
[07:11] <nickrud> scifi,  killall gnome-panel
[07:11] <roryy> Lorandka: you mean nano ?
[07:11] <ompaul> lllllll, NO Caps
[07:11] <r0xoR> what's the startup script called for when i log into gnome?
[07:12] <Juice23> i installed the cd and it is at the command prompt
[07:12] <scifi> nickrud, ty thats the one :)
[07:12] <amphi> lllllll: what? can you speak up a bit?
[07:12] <r0xoR> i don't beleive GDM uses .xinitrc does it?
[07:12] <scifi> i thought it was gnome-applet :P
[07:12] <Lorandka> roryy , i can just nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf ?
[07:12] <ompaul> Juice23, you on the live cd?
[07:12] <bobbyd> Juice23, which version did you install? (what's the ISO called?)
[07:12] <r0xoR> Lorandka, vim > nano but you can use nano
[07:12] <wsjunior> how do i take off an item from gnome menu without alacarte?
[07:12] <gil> thanks
[07:12] <lllllll> no, i cannot
[07:12] <bobbyd> Juice23, it should automatically give you the desktop
[07:12] <lllllll> i need small font
[07:12] <roryy> Lorandka: you'll need 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[07:12] <Scognito> any solution?
[07:12] <scifi> hmmm, k-3d still not showing up in graphics menu list ^^, is there a way of forcing it there ?
[07:12] <Juice23> the install cd
[07:12] <uscg_corey> freakabcd, hrm didnt have a bunch of packages associated with it, let me see if it solves it
[07:12] <Lorandka> okay, thanks
[07:13] <Healot> lllllll: select a smaller size for the font that you want to use?
[07:13] <Thinjon100> In the HOWTO: Xgl/Compiz, it mentions "sudo gedit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom" to add custom settings to Gnome... I'm trying to do this in KDE... does anyone know what settings file I'm supopsed to add/modify for KDE?
[07:13] <ompaul> okay and now all what have you got in front of you? a promt that says login?
[07:13] <lllllll> amphi: i have a better idea, is there a way to change the frame-buffer size to something with higher resoluition?
[07:13] <amphi> lllllll: the number before .psf or whatever is the height in pixels, as you would have realised if you bothered to try a few
[07:13] <Juice23> when i turn on the computer it goes to the command prompt and i log in
[07:13] <uscg_corey> type startx
[07:13] <amphi> lllllll: yeah, you can use a different graphics mode
[07:13] <Lorandka> i' have jsut messed up the config, now it has a refresh rate higher, that my monitor can support
[07:13] <bobbyd> Juice23, type startx
[07:13] <JohnStax> How can I up my refreshrate on the screen? I can only choose 60Hz.. starts bugging my eyes :(
[07:13] <brainlessbob> I need to change permission of many files... Fastest way to do it?
[07:13] <Juice23> it says command not found
[07:13] <scifi> anyone ?
[07:14] <Lorandka> JohnStax: do like me
[07:14] <Healot> chmod?  brainlessbob?
[07:14] <bit_doidao> how can i put my "superkey" (the one betwen "caps" and "alt") to work with other keys? i what to put shortekeys like superkey+h, superkey+o.... can anyone help?
[07:14] <freakabcd> brainlessbob, use a fileglob pattern?
[07:14] <Lorandka> edit the xorg.conf
[07:14] <amphi> lllllll: look at man fbset if your console fb driver supports switching res. - vesa doesn't AFAIK, for example
[07:14] <ompaul> Juice23, type this:  >>sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop<<
[07:14] <Lorandka> just dont mess it up
[07:14] <freakabcd> or use find to get the right files
[07:14] <bobbyd> JohnStax, you need to find the hsync and vsync values for your monitor, google for your monitor model number and "hsync"
[07:14] <tuskernini> ompaul, i made a /mnt/usbdrive directory and tried sudo mount -t vfat umask=000 /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbdrive, but it does not want to take it
[07:14] <freakabcd> tuskernini, fdisk -l /dev/sda
[07:14] <bobbyd> JohnStax, or select the right model in the configuration dialog, don't know where that is in Gnome though
[07:14] <JohnStax> bobbyd, yes...
[07:14] <r0xoR> JohnStax, Lorandka sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[07:15] <bit_doidao> brainlessbob, you can use the chmod in the terminal
[07:15] <freakabcd> does that show sda1 as vfat ?
[07:15] <scifi> i just installed k-3d, but it doesnt show up in the applications menu list, how can i add it there ?
[07:15] <brainlessbob> Thanks :D
[07:15] <bobbyd> Juice23, sounds like you somehow managed to install without the desktop
[07:15] <bit_doidao> brainlessbob, be careful, unless you know what your doing
[07:15] <lllllll> amphi: i have no man entry for fbset
[07:15] <bobbyd> Juice23, did you choose server install when you installed?
[07:15] <gil> bobbyd: when i look in synaptic or adept i do not see such a thing as a mp3 support for k3b
[07:16] <gil> do i need a different repos.
[07:16] <ompaul> tuskernini, I am not going to debug knoppix - please use a ubuntu disk
[07:16] <JohnStax> r0xoR, thx.. let me look at it
[07:16] <gil> ?
[07:16] <tuskernini> ompaul, never done this before... it geves me 4 partitions as i see it.
[07:16] <bobbyd> Juice23, try: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" then enter your password
[07:16] <Juice23> it couldnt find package gnome-desktop
[07:16] <Juice23> ok
[07:16] <nry> Hi ppl
[07:16] <tuskernini> ok, give me about 15, gotta write one quick..
[07:16] <ompaul> Juice23, did you install that attached to a network?
[07:16] <amphi> lllllll: so install it
[07:16] <alexito-> what ftp with pret support work on ubuntu?
[07:17] <scifi> i just installed k-3d, but it doesnt show up in the applications menu list, how can i add it there ?
[07:17] <bobbyd> gil, libk3b2-mp3 is the package
[07:17] <JohnStax> lol! what's the default admin password?
[07:17] <gil> ok thanks
[07:17] <Healot> JohnStax: none
[07:17] <bobbyd> JohnStax, there isn't one, just use sudo and your user password
[07:18] <Healot> if you were referring to root password?
[07:18] <JohnStax> Healot, bobbyd, thx
[07:18] <Juice23> its not attached to a network now
[07:18] <bobbyd> alexito-, open synaptic and search for ftp :)
[07:18] <nry> I need to copy a file to a USB external disk (ntfs) but write to disk is not allowed.....any help
[07:18] <matju> how do i enable TCP in X11 ?... so that e.g. DISPLAY=10.0.0.230:0 actually works
[07:18] <bobbyd> Juice23, you need to be attached to the network, or have the disc in the drive
[07:18] <alexito-> i see but isnt have pret support
[07:18] <ompaul> Juice23, it might be useful or you should put the install CD in it
[07:18] <lewix> i downloaded a package and I don't know where it is
[07:18] <Healot> nry: by default, NTFS part is readonly
[07:18] <Firezip_> YO YO YO
[07:19] <duneatreides> hello everybody
[07:19] <bobbyd> Juice23, the fastest way to fix this is to download the latest install CD, install again and choose all the default options, you should get a desktop at the end of that
[07:19] <Healot> you may need 3rd party software for that, nry
[07:19] <Firezip_> what sup in dis house?
[07:19] <matju> ... i want X11 to listen on port 6000. is that disabled by default?
[07:19] <bobbyd> alexito-, what's pret support?
[07:19] <ompaul> Firezip_ your offtopic
[07:19] <amphi> Firezip_: whiskey tango foxtrot?
[07:19] <coucho> i've got a problem with my sounds
[07:19] <Znuff> So... anyone knows why my kernel is looking for fxlrx.ko in /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-generic/volatile instead of ../misc/ ?
[07:19] <duneatreides> I'm trying to install java, and I am able to install it, but the problem is is that I don't know how to make jre1.5.0_06 the default jvm
[07:19] <nry> Healot, 3rd party?
[07:19] <ompaul> Firezip_ ubuntu support questions are on topic
[07:20] <uscg_corey> i get checking for GNOME... configure: error: unable to find the GNOME libraries
[07:20] <uscg_corey>  yet i have the gnome-libs
[07:20] <amphi> matju: yes
[07:20] <Znuff> uscg_corey, get the -dev package
[07:20] <Healot> nry: the party that is next to the 2nd
[07:20] <duneatreides> also, where should I install java? /opt , /usr/local, anywhere else?
[07:20] <Juice23> i think it will work when i attach it to a network though
[07:20] <nry> Healot, any advise?
[07:20] <Juice23> i have to disconnect this computer though and leace
[07:20] <Juice23> leave
[07:20] <bobbyd> uscg_corey, check the config.log for the lib name it's missing, then use apt-file search <libname> to find the package, then install that :)
[07:21] <bobbyd> uscg_corey, what are you compiling?
[07:21] <Healot> !ntfs
[07:21] <ubotu> ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe.
[07:21] <duneatreides> how do I change my default java viturual machine?
[07:21] <coucho> duneatreides: if i'm correct you have to add the path in /etc/jvm
[07:21] <Nameless12> Can soemone help me out im trying to connect to ssh thru the networking thing to use it to view my servers harddrive but i cant access all files. I have done sudo su to set a root password but logging in root does not let me modify the roots files
[07:21] <uscg_corey> i have libgnome-dev
[07:21] <Nameless12> how do i fix that
[07:21] <uscg_corey> bobbyd, mail-notification
[07:22] <duneatreides> i'm new to linux, and  how do you add the path in /etc/jvm?
[07:22] <nry> thanks ppl
[07:22] <bobbyd> uscg_corey, follow my previous instructions, you'll find your problem
[07:22] <alan|home> hi
[07:22] <matju> found it, nolisten in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[07:22] <uscg_corey> im looking
[07:23] <coucho> duneatreides: use nano
[07:23] <tuskernini> ompaul, back again, but on another pc, i just remembered why i used knoppix, ubuntu does not have ndiswrapper ut start wlan
[07:23] <ompaul> tuskernini, it does
[07:23] <ompaul> !tell tuskernini about ndiswrapper
[07:23] <phreeza> does anyone know how to map a certain character to ctrl+alt+7 for example? te crucial thing is the ctrl+alt. on a german keyboard
[07:23] <wangzhengsan> How can I let my Ubuntu to do some work in the correct time?
[07:23] <coucho> duneatreides: in terminal enter "sudo nano /etc/jvm"
[07:23] <tuskernini> ompaul, i am using breezy..
[07:23] <ompaul> tuskernini, read the message from the bot and follow the links they work
[07:23] <bobbyd> duneatreides, try PATH=$PATH:/etc/jvm/
[07:24] <phreeza> wangzhengsan crontab
[07:24] <tuskernini> ompaul,  on my way...
[07:24] <runes> well so far so good 80 gig onlien permissions set now time to read the RTFM on administration of users  bbl and thanks again for all you help ppl :-)
[07:24] <baconbacon> !cron
[07:24] <ubotu> I guess cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. There is a HOW-TO located at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[07:24] <bobbyd> duneatreides, ignore my previous comment :)
[07:24] <chicago60657> does anyone here use eterm?
[07:24] <baconbacon> ubotu tell wangzhengsan about cron
[07:25] <wangzhengsan>  crontab is what?
[07:25] <lewix> I downloaded a software and I don't know how to find it in order to install it lol
[07:25] <tuskernini> ompaul, so can i install ndiswrapper-utils on the live cd without having internet?
[07:25] <uscg_corey> gconf2.0 is what it says is missing
[07:25] <bobbyd> lewix, is ti on your desktop? :)
[07:25] <wangzhengsan> Sorry my English is poor,
[07:25] <ompaul> they are on the CD
[07:25] <baconbacon> wangzhengsan: crontab is a file cron (scheduler) reads to know when to execute things
[07:25] <AngryElf> allright, so DVDs magically started working......how about xvid on amd64???
[07:25] <bobbyd> lewix, what did you use to download?
[07:25] <phreeza>  /etc/crontab is a file where you can write stuff like that, wangzhengsan
[07:25] <duneatreides> ok bobbyd
[07:25] <r0xoR> c'mon no one knows what the gdm startup file is called?
[07:26] <chicago60657> can anyone recommand a good terminal emulator?  i've heard eterm uses transparency
[07:26] <bobbyd> duneatreides, do the sudo nano -w /etc/jvm thing :)
[07:26] <r0xoR> chicago60657, i use aterm
[07:26] <ompaul> r0xoR, at 800 people its a tad busy >>/etc/init.d/gdm start<<
[07:26] <r0xoR> chicago60657, eterm sux0rs in my opinion
[07:26] <Subhuman> chicago60657, so does gnome-terminal
[07:26] <poningru> xterm?
[07:26] <bobbyd> chicago60657, konsole :)
[07:26] <Healot> chicago60657: gnome-terminal is powerl enough
[07:26] <g0dchild> Is it possible to get the latest audacity on apt-get - 1.3 i think
[07:26] <wangzhengsan> OK .Thank you everyone.
[07:26] <bobbyd> g0dchild, no idea
[07:26] <poningru> yeah gnome-terminal is powerful...and sucky
[07:26] <nn> yay. ubuntu (real machine) replaces coLinux server heh
[07:26] <r0xoR> ompaul, no i understand
[07:26] <poningru> err wrong channel
[07:27] <chicago60657> r0xoR: does aterm have transparency...i like that feature
[07:27] <r0xoR> chicago60657, yes it does
[07:27] <r0xoR> chicago60657, that's why i use it
[07:27] <r0xoR> chicago60657, and it's got 256 color suppor
[07:27] <Subhuman> chicago60657, gnome-terminal has transparency too?
[07:27] <r0xoR> chicago60657, well it's got 256 color support if you compile it with such
[07:27] <g0dchild> oh - alright- ur welcome to suggest any alternative apps - audacity is the only one i know of
[07:27] <r0xoR> Subhuman, gnome-terminal sux :)
[07:27] <chicago60657> r0xoR: how do you set the transparency? will it tell me in MAN?
[07:27] <r0xoR> chicago60657, gnome-terminal only has 8 color support
[07:27] <lewix> bobbyd, hmm konqueror
[07:28] <r0xoR> chicago60657, aterm -tr -sh 18 -trsb -fg white -bg black
[07:28] <duneatreides> thank you bobbyd
[07:28] <ompaul> mgalvin, note the number present :)
[07:28] <r0xoR> chicago60657, those are the standard parameters i use on my aterm launcher
[07:28] <bobbyd> lewix, try to download something again and see where it puts it :)
[07:28] <chicago60657> r0xoR: awesome...thanks
[07:28] <ompaul> 800 :)
[07:28] <mgalvin> ompaul: whoa!
[07:28] <hastesaver> g0dchild, breezy has 1.2.3-1build2, dapper has  1.2.4b-2ubuntu2
[07:28] <bobbyd> duneatreides, no problem, someone else said it first ;)
[07:28] <ompaul> 801
[07:28] <hastesaver> should we give gimmulf_ a prize? ;)
[07:28] <r0xoR> chicago60657, aterm -tr -sh 18 -trsb -sr -fg white -bg black
[07:29] <mgalvin> hi all 801 people :)
[07:29] <tuskernini> ompaul, ok its alot of work, but i am gonna download ndiswrapper-utils and install it on the live cd computer...
[07:29] <r0xoR> chicago60657, er sorry, for got that one
[07:29] <g0dchild> hastesaver, i am using dapper right now- :)
[07:29] <ompaul> tuskernini, how are you going to hold on to them? usb key?
[07:29] <shawnz> hmm
[07:29] <tuskernini> yes
[07:29] <chicago60657> r0xoR: got it...thanks again
[07:29] <gimmulf_> hastesaver: wuut :)
[07:29] <shawnz> nickrud
[07:30] <hastesaver> g0dchild, well then, you must be satisfied with 1.2.4. (Or compile, or find a repo that has it, ...)
[07:30] <Malbojia> does anyone know of a ftp gui that can do ssl/tsl connections?
[07:30] <poningru> Malbojia: gftp iirc
[07:30] <poningru> hold on let me check
[07:30] <Healot> filezilla?
[07:30] <r0xoR> Malbojia, nautilus?
[07:30] <g0dchild> hastesaver, yeah- guess no easier way...just had to confirm it here though
[07:30] <nickrud> r0xoR, no, it uses a file in shawnz
[07:30] <r0xoR> Malbojia, all the FTP gui's i know of suck...
[07:30] <nickrud> r0xoR, sorry ;)
[07:31] <Mnabil> how can i download the unoffecial pkgs of debian ?
[07:31] <tuskernini> ompaul, this is what i ment, knoppix is ready to run... i will install both the packages mentioned on the ubotu mentioned page
[07:31] <Malbojia> I just want something to ease the task lol.
[07:31] <poningru> Mnabil: unofficial packages?
[07:31] <hastesaver> Mnabil, why? You shouldn't do that unless you're sure what you're doing. Most things you want are available in repos for Ubuntu
[07:31] <r0xoR> Malbojia, sorry man not sure... ease *what* task exactly?
[07:31] <ompaul> Mnabil, you can do it with a web browser, but don't try to install them - they will break your ubuntu install
[07:31] <Mnabil> poncho: like sun's JDK
[07:31] <shawnz> nickrud: that patchou guy updated sources.list to update to hoary and did a dist-upgrade which worked, but he got the same error when trying to go to breezy
[07:31] <lwizardl> whats a good newsgroup binaries downloader besides pan? pan seems to crash and close itself to often for me
[07:32] <poningru> lwizardl: thunderbird
[07:32] <ompaul> Mnabil, in dapper days it will be in the multiverse repo
[07:32] <Healot> lwizardl: evolution? if you prefer gnome apps
[07:32] <ompaul> !java
[07:32] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:32] <Malbojia> remote fxp transfers, file management.
[07:32] <Mnabil> !javadebs
[07:32] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[07:33] <bruce__> hi
[07:33] <nickrud> shawnz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade has the gotchas
[07:33] <hastesaver> Mnabil, read the RestrictedFormats page, explained better.
[07:33] <scifi> i just installed k-3d, but it doesnt show up in the applications menu list, how can i add it there ?
[07:33] <ompaul> Mnabil, you can message the bot /msg ubotu KeyWord
[07:33] <wangzhengsan> 88888888888          everyone!
[07:34] <nickrud> scifi, check apps-accessories-alacarte, the menu item may be disabled
[07:34] <uscg_corey> anyone know what package "eel-2.0" would be?
[07:34] <scifi> how do i get there ?
[07:35] <nickrud> uscg_corey, libeel2-dev
[07:35] <ErDoktor> #ubuntu-it
[07:35] <RoninGurl> Anyone know how to do a mIRC style auto chanserv ident for xchat?
[07:35] <hastesaver> scifi, Applications -> Accessories -> Alacarte is what nickrud said :)
[07:35] <Healot> scifi: the worst you can you is logoff/logon
[07:35] <ompaul> uscg_corey, this ... gkrellm-mldonkey - mldonkey plugin for gkrellm2
[07:35] <nickrud> heh. got lazy there :)
[07:35] <hastesaver> RoninGurl, yes, click edit in your server list, and give the password there
[07:35] <uscg_corey> thanks nickrud ---this thing takes so many packages to install
[07:35] <ompaul> RoninGurl, using xchat?
[07:35] <RoninGurl> hastesaver, it will only apply to that server, correct?
[07:36] <nickrud> uscg_corey, if you'd enable the repos, you can get them in one fell swoop with apt-get build-dep ;)
[07:36] <hastesaver> RoninGurl, um, what more could you want?
[07:36] <uscg_corey> ;/
[07:36] <uscg_corey> well it configured now
[07:36] <whl> query
[07:36] <ompaul> !tell uscg_corey about repos
[07:36] <andrejkw> Hello
[07:36] <RoninGurl> does xchat have the mirc style scripting where i can do "on 1:connect: { if ($server == irc.blah.net and then send the command
[07:36] <ompaul> uscg_corey, just configure that stuff and enjoy
[07:36] <nickrud> ompaul, I have, three times now I think
[07:36] <andrejkw> for some reason ic an't have 2 routers plugged into my pc
[07:37] <uscg_corey> now to see if itll compile
[07:37] <ompaul> nickrud, and has the bot? ;-)
[07:37] <andrejkw> my connection only works if 1 is plugged in
[07:37] <andrejkw> how come?
[07:37] <Mnabil> what is the mean of multiunverse ?
[07:37] <njan> andrejkw, what do you mean by routers, what are they attached to, and how are you trying to attach them to your PC?
[07:37] <nickrud> ompaul, yup, both components and repos
[07:37] <hastesaver> RoninGurl, I don't understand. When you connect to a server, the settings for that server will be applied. Isn't that what you want?
[07:38] <lwizardl> Healot, well i'm looking for a application kinda like grabit! on windows
[07:38] <hastesaver> !tell Mnabil about multiverse
[07:38] <Healot> RoninGurl: no, xchat uses external plugins, PERl or Python script for eexample
[07:38] <andrejkw> one is attached wirelessly and one by LAN, only one has internet connected to it, and I want to be able to access both routers' configuration pages
[07:38] <ompaul> RoninGurl, as you start xchat there is a window the word edit is on the right hand side, click on that put your password in the nickserv and chanserv dialogs
[07:38] <RoninGurl> hastesaver, yah, but what im triyng to do is basically a mIRC perform where i can script certain actions. like....if this server is connected. ident. then operserv myself. and then join a list of chats. mirc has the perform for this.
[07:39] <ompaul> RoninGurl, easier than windows?;-)
[07:39] <andrejkw> but when both connections are enabled, nobody can remote desktop connect to me
[07:39] <nomin> someone spammed the "talks" page for backporting on ubuntuforums wiki:  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:Main_Page
[07:39] <Scognito> hi
[07:39] <rixxon> RoninGurl: what client?
[07:39] <ompaul> RoninGurl, as you start xchat there is a window the word edit is on the right hand side, click on that put your password in the nickserv and chanserv dialogs
[07:39] <RoninGurl> xchat. latest one.
[07:39] <Scognito> is it possible to remove that ugly effect of minimize windows in metacity?
[07:39] <rixxon> oh
[07:39] <andrejkw> can you help?
[07:39] <andrejkw> njan?
[07:39] <RoninGurl> ompaul, yah thanks, but that wont let me script an auto operserv command.
[07:40] <RoninGurl> or auto join chans
[07:40] <hastesaver> RoninGurl, As an example, by clicking on the 'Edit' next to Freenode in the Server list, I've set it to automatically identify me and join the channels #ubuntu,#ubuntu+1,#ubuntu-offtopic, etc. Does this cover all that you want?
[07:40] <uscg_corey> yay it compiled and runs
[07:40] <RoninGurl> hastesaver, but can you make it run a custom command? like oper yourself. with operserv.
[07:40] <ompaul> RoninGurl I join 8 channels when I get online
[07:40] <Healot> RoninGurl: you can do scripting for xchat, if you know something like Perl/Python etc...
[07:41] <nabasu> I'm trying to install dapper on my friends PC, he has an Opteron 165, Asus A8R-MVP with ATI Xpress 200 chipset and what I think is the problem: a SCSI setup with Adaptec 39160
[07:41] <nabasu> anyone that can help?
[07:41] <njan> andrejkw, do they both use different IP address ranges?
[07:41] <Healot> or just download some script/plugin from xchat's website
[07:41] <tuskernini> omaul, ok finally i am in ubuntu with ndiswrapper transfered and installed... what a job... now for the usbhdd
[07:41] <rendo> Anyone ever use Snes9x or Zsnes?
[07:41] <hastesaver> RoninGurl, xchat does allow external plugins written in Python and Perl, BTW. Try them. (or you could also include a few things in the 'Connect command' box, maybe, I don't know)
[07:41] <wsjunior> how do i delete an item from menu without alacarte?
[07:41] <RoninGurl> ill look into that then. thx.
[07:41] <rendo> If so, do you know anything about sound problems, because my sound keeps failing apparently and I can't hear anything while trying to play Roms :/
[07:41] <cantona> anyone tried initng?
[07:42] <andrejkw> njan: yes one is 0.x and other 1.x
[07:42] <tuskernini> ompaul, ok first unmounting the usbhdd
[07:42] <nabasu> no one?
[07:42] <hastesaver> wsjunior, why without alacarte?!
[07:42] <njan> andrejkw, with your PC connected to both, can you paste the outputs of the ifconfig -a and route commands run using sudo to pastebin?
[07:42] <wsjunior> hastesaver, because it isnt working
[07:43] <nickrud> nabasu, install experts come thru here, you'll just have to be patient. Not what you want to hear, I know :/
[07:43] <tuskernini> ompaul, what is the command again for mounting... the 000 part
[07:43] <andrei> How do i enable autologin
[07:43] <wsjunior> hastesaver, im trying to remove cedega from menu and even unselecting it in alacarte the item remains at the menu
[07:43] <andrei> how do i enable autologin
[07:43] <nabasu> nickrud, any idea *when* they'll come? ;D
[07:44] <andrei> HOW DO I ENABLE AUTOLOGIN
[07:44] <hastesaver> wsjunior, try logoff and login, maybe.
[07:44] <uwo> will ask here as well. can
[07:44] <mwe> andrei: relax
[07:44] <nickrud> andrei, System->Adminstration->Login Window , the security tab
[07:44] <wsjunior> hastesaver, already tried
[07:44] <uwo> can anyone recommend a chess server to play online chess?
[07:44] <mwe> !tell andrei about patience
[07:44] <rendo> If so, do you know anything about sound problems, because my sound keeps failing apparently and I can't hear anything while trying to play Roms :/
[07:44] <hastesaver> !tell andrei about caps
[07:44] <nickrud> nabasu, heh. Probably 2 minutes after you give up :)
[07:44] <nabasu> always ;)
[07:45] <andrei> sry
[07:45] <Healot> wsjunior: you can remove the menu manually using "smaeg"
[07:45] <Healot> "smeg"
[07:45] <mwe> andrei: I think gksudo gdmsetup might do it
[07:45] <nickrud> andrei, sometimes it takes a minute or to to verify before I post
[07:45] <nabasu> because it's odd, my laptop has the same chipset...damn him and his insistance on scsi... -_-;;
[07:45] <wsjunior> Healot, whats that?
[07:45] <andrei> what do i do from the security tab
[07:46] <uscg_corey> anyone else use mail-notification and evolution?
[07:46] <wsjunior> i just would like to know where is the file that i need to dele.. like in /usr/share/applications or something like that
[07:46] <mwe> andrei: I don't remember I'm using kdm
[07:46] <nickrud> andrei, check the autologin thingo & enter the username
[07:46] <Healot> wsjunior: if you're in gnome, run pop up a terminal type it, and then you can add/remove menu
[07:46] <nabasu> wohoo! weeboot time!! so much for never having to reboot in linux ;) :P
[07:47] <hastesaver> Healot, smeg is alacarte. Same thing.
[07:47] <andrei> i dont see anything under the security tab
[07:47] <mwe> andrei: maybe gdm won't let you. It's considered risky so maybe it's disabled. I'm not sure
[07:47] <rendo> Does anyone know anything about sound issues with Snes9x?
[07:47] <wsjunior> Healot, command not found
[07:47] <meheren> how do i get to the screen saver preferences in gnome?
[07:47] <hastesaver> andrei, did you look in the gdm options? I remember it was there...
[07:47] <r0xoR> should i leave hdparm in my startup services?
[07:48] <mwe> r0xoR: it won't hurt
[07:48] <Healot> wsjunior: what did you type?
[07:48] <andrejkw> njan: ok, i'll send u the links to the pastebin
[07:48] <Healot> anyways, there is a shortcut for smeg :)
[07:48] <wsjunior> Healot, smaeg
[07:48] <andrei> what are gdm options
[07:48] <r0xoR> mwe, well i'm wondering if it might be though... i've got an out-of-tree kernel module that i compiled for my sound card
[07:48] <wsjunior> Healot, just like u said
[07:48] <meheren> gnome has a screensaver right...? how do i open the preferences for it?
[07:49] <wsjunior> Healot, look, i dont want to install any tool to remove it i want to do it by hand,, understand?
[07:49] <hastesaver> Anderson, ok, look at the "General" tab
[07:49] <tuskernini> ompaul, it looks like the usbhdd is ntfs
[07:49] <mwe> r0xoR: and you think hdparm is confusing your sound? I doubt it
[07:49] <r0xoR> mmmm
[07:49] <wsjunior> Healot, the itens at the menu should be somewhere
[07:49] <hastesaver> andrei, look at the "General" tab
[07:49] <r0xoR> well i know that DMA support in the kernel can influence sound
[07:49] <wsjunior> Healot, i want to know which place i find them
[07:49] <r0xoR> so why not hdparm
[07:49] <andrei> oohhhh thanks
[07:49] <mwe> r0xoR: you want DMA unless you're very very patient man
[07:50] <wsjunior> Healot, i thought it was /usr/share/applications but even removing the cedega,desktop the item is still there,
[07:50] <hastesaver> wsjunior, smeg and alacarte are the same thing.
[07:50] <andrei> how do i install WINE and install STEAM
[07:50] <r0xoR> mwe, i know, like i said... DMA can influence sound... i.e. lack of DMA usually causes sound to stutter
[07:50] <wsjunior> hastesaver, i dont want to use a tool dude
[07:50] <r0xoR> just wondering if hdparm has any similar effect
[07:50] <hastesaver> !tell andrei about wine
[07:50] <wsjunior> hastesaver, just know where is the files of gnome items
[07:50] <meheren> ah i figured it out ok never mind
[07:50] <DeathSyndrome> can anyone help me ?
[07:51] <Lorandka> ok, so here's the problem: last time i have messed up xorg.conf, now, when it boots up , the refresh rate is higher than the monitor can support. scrren unusable. i have tried bootin up in that command line mode, and tried editin g xorg.conf. (nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf) but the config file is empty
[07:51] <mwe> r0xoR: I studders because hdd access take up so many resources when DMA is off
[07:51] <sambagirl> i am looking for something like a community calendar system any ideas?
[07:51] <r0xoR> mwe, right... so?
[07:51] <njan> sambagirl, have you looked at google calendar?
[07:51] <tuskernini> ompaul, still sais read only... cannot write to disk
[07:51] <sambagirl> when isay community i mean for users to post to the webpage significant things on daes
[07:51] <mwe> r0xoR: I don't belive messing with DMA will mute your sound card
[07:52] <sambagirl> is it like for a server to use with a website?
[07:52] <nabasu> anyone that can help with a tricky install
[07:52] <hastesaver> DeathSyndrome, not until you ask your question
[07:52] <nabasu> ?
[07:52] <andrei> how do i install wine
[07:53] <hastesaver> andrei, did you read the link ubotu sent you? (or type "/msg ubotu wine" yourself again)
[07:53] <ompaul> tuskernini, umount it before you do anything else
[07:53] <DeathSyndrome> :/, I just installed linux, and if I restarted to use windows, I choose windows and it goes to the XP loading screen, and after it ends loading, the pc restarts again :/....is there a way I could fix that ?
[07:53] <mwe> r0xoR: it will only make IO slow if it's off. not make it not function
[07:53] <sambagirl> i mean like if someone wants to post on a calendar concert dates is that possible?
[07:53] <tuskernini> ompaul, ok
[07:53] <sambagirl> for say my website?
[07:53] <ompaul> tuskernini, actuually do this
[07:53] <zizie> how to see what ips are registered to my server ?
[07:53] <njan> sambagirl, take a look at google calendar and see if it meets your needs.
[07:53] <r0xoR> mwe, define "it" please?
[07:53] <scifi> nickrud/hastesaver: i dont have an "alacarte" in the menu
[07:54] <mwe> r0xoR: DMA
[07:54] <sambagirl> is it downloadable?
[07:54] <andrei> how do i right click on amac running ubuntu
[07:54] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[07:54] <njan> sambagirl, as the name implies, it's an online service.
[07:54] <tuskernini> ompaul, i unmounted it..
[07:54] <lewix> how many connections are possible with a server of 256kb/s?
[07:54] <r0xoR> mwe, right so what does that have to do with hdparm?
[07:54] <r0xoR> mwe, i know all that already
[07:54] <nickrud> scifi, it may simply say menu editor (breezy, under system tools iirc)
[07:54] <njan> sambagirl, it has group calendar functionality, and supports icals, so you can access it using a client like evolution and by extension use it offline.
[07:54] <sambagirl> njan i want it to be on my site not on googles site.
[07:54] <ompaul> tuskernini, in a terminal do this >> sudo fdisk -l << and >>mount << and put the output in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:54] <mwe> r0xoR: go ahead and disable it if you don't believe me. you can turn it back on when you see what it does
[07:54] <sambagirl> what i mean is to have it on my site.
[07:54] <DeathSyndrome> hastesaver, it didn't work, I mean even that I asked I got no answer :/...
[07:54] <mwe> r0xoR: BTW I think DMA is on even if you disable the hdparm boot script
[07:54] <sambagirl> ical is for apple yes?
[07:55] <r0xoR> mwe, gah, you always say "it" as if you have a proper noun you're obviously referring to
[07:55] <sambagirl> is there a ical server version?
[07:55] <sambagirl> is it free?
[07:55] <sambagirl> is it work for linux?
[07:55] <sambagirl> does it.
[07:55] <r0xoR> mwe, dude, all i really wanted to know was what hdparm is and if it will affect my sound if i turn it off
[07:55] <nabasu> I'm trying to install dapper on my friends PC that has an Opteron 165, an Asus A8R-MVP with ATI Xpress 200 chipset and here's the tricky part: a SCSI setup with an Adaptec 39160 controller card
[07:55] <andrei> HOW DO I RIGHT CLICK ON A MAC I ACCIDENTLY MADE THE MOUSEPAD LEFT HANDED
[07:55] <sambagirl> will it run in ubuntu?
[07:55] <sambagirl> andrei ;)
[07:55] <mwe> r0xoR: it will, possibly, like I said
[07:55] <ompaul> andrei, step one, do not use caps lock
[07:55] <mwe> r0xoR: dude
[07:55] <scifi> nickrud: i already tried menu editor its not listed, but there is the option to add a new entry, but not sure what im meant to point to for the command. i assume the k-3d executable ?
[07:55] <andrei> sry
[07:55] <Healot> andrei: Mac's mouse?
[07:56] <andrei> toucchhpadd
[07:56] <zizie> how to see what ips are registered to my server ?
[07:56] <nickrud> scifi, yes, I think you need to use the full path
[07:56] <DeathSyndrome> is there any answer for my question ? D:
[07:56] <bfso> what is your question?
[07:56] <DeathSyndrome> ":/, I just installed linux, and if I restarted to use windows, I choose windows and it goes to the XP loading screen, and after it ends loading, the pc restarts again :/....is there a way I could fix that ?"
[07:57] <ompaul> andrei, step two hope that someone steps up to that one,  in the mean time try clicking on system preferences and mouse
[07:57] <hastesaver> DeathSyndrome, Looks like a problem with Windows, doesn't it? If you're getting the XP loading screen, it means your boot menu is not screwed up
[07:57] <andrei> i cant
[07:57] <troy_s> doesn't the option key on a mac toggle as it does under macosx?
[07:57] <mwe> r0xoR: it means DMA in what I told you as that was the topic of our conversation
[07:57] <andrejkw> njan: u still here?
[07:57] <andrejkw> njan: http://pastebin.com/743243
[07:57] <andrei> theres only one button on touchpad
[07:57] <andrejkw> njan: sorry for the delay but it takes a while since I loose internet
[07:57] <r0xoR> mwe, heheh, dma was your topic... hdparm was mine
[07:57] <tuskernini> ompaul, ok pasted it... cool feature..
[07:58] <mwe> r0xoR: hdparm is for DMA settings
[07:58] <rixxon> do i need antivirus on linux? (oh please dont laugh :D)
[07:58] <r0xoR> ahhh
[07:58] <r0xoR> mwe, there we go... the definition you should have *started* with :)
[07:58] <ompaul> rixxon, no you don't
[07:58] <r0xoR> thanks
[07:58] <nabasu> I'm trying to install dapper on my friends PC that has an Opteron 165, an Asus A8R-MVP with ATI Xpress 200 chipset and here's the tricky part: a SCSI setup with an Adaptec 39160 controller card
[07:58] <alexito-> how i organize my desktop icons to grid automatic
[07:58] <] GoldenDragon> hmm... yesterday i ran automatix and restarted my computer to see if I can hear sound in videos(AVIs) and it worked... today I restarted the computer again and now it doesn't play unless i turn all the volume to high, and even then I can barely hear it.
[07:58] <njan> andrei, you have a third network interface, ath0, which is probably an atheros wireless card, which has a route setup via it
[07:58] <rixxon> ompaul: but isn't there some ubuntu-related anti-virus-project?
[07:58] <mwe> r0xoR: I supposed you knew. I didn't mean to be arrogant
[07:58] <Healot> yes
[07:58] <r0xoR> np
[07:58] <alexito-> i dont like icons in random places
[07:58] <njan> andrei, the routing table dictates where your computer tries to send data for a particular network subnet
[07:59] <ompaul> rixxon, unless its serving files to windows boxes - but not for linux
[07:59] <slackern> rixxon: Only case would be if you have networkshares available to windowsmachines for writing or if you use your machine as a email server which handles mail.
[07:59] <tim> hi there
[07:59] <andrei> wtf is everyone saying
[07:59] <njan> andrei, I don't know where it's coming from, but it looks like that's your problem.
[07:59] <rixxon> ompaul: ok thanks
[07:59] <andrei> i have a mouse problem
[07:59] <tristanmike> alexito-, right click the deskop and check "keep aligned" ?
[07:59] <andrei> u guys are high
[07:59] <rixxon> slackern: aye :>
[07:59] <njan> *andrejkw
[07:59] <bfso> DeathSyndrome, try using your XP installation CD to access the recovery console
[07:59] <GMullen> what do you do if grub and lilo fails to install?
[07:59] <andrei> MY TOUCHPAD IS BROKEN NOT MY SUBNET CONNECTION
[07:59] <hastesaver> andrei, relax; sometimes things meant for others go to you
[07:59] <ompaul> andrei, we don't use that phrase here, and frankly I don't know what the answer is, and suggesting people are high is disrespectful
[08:00] <mwe> andrei: don't shout. that's likely to get you kicked
[08:00] <tuskernini> ompaul, ok so thats how it works, i thought it refreshes... now i posted double
[08:00] <hastesaver> andrei, No caps, please. This is your third time; the next time you will be kicked (hopefully)
[08:00] <andrei> DOO DOO PEE PEE KAKA POO POO HELP MY MOUSE PROBLEM
[08:00] <mwe> can someone kick andrei please
[08:00] <andrejkw> njan: what y mean?
[08:00] <uscg_corey> anyone know where "EVOLUTION_PLUGIN" would be located?
[08:00] <Healot> someone just banned?
[08:01] <ompaul> andrei, your not banned just silenced, now scroll back with /lastlog ompaul and try that
[08:01] <andrejkw> njan: yes I know, I just removed it
[08:01] <scifi> nickrud:  think i'll just try logging on/off, cus i dont know where the actuall executable is :P
[08:01] <njan> andrejkw, you just removed the card, or the route?
[08:01] <andrejkw> the card
[08:01] <andrejkw> how do I remvoe the route
[08:01] <r0xoR> hmm, my main hard drive seems to actually be not using dma
[08:01] <andrejkw> ?
[08:01] <r0xoR> grrr
[08:02] <azurehuesofblue> I have this IP adress from this small town in cali (palto alto) maybe it's not so small in the computer world... and it's always hanging around... and I think it might be an X friend or something, but it's always there, how do I find out more about it?
[08:02] <GMullen> what do i do if grub and lilo fails to install during a netinstall?
[08:02] <tuskernini> ompaul, its the /sdb1 ntfs partition i want to write to... from my hdb1 ext3
[08:02] <njan> andrejkw, route del -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev ath0
[08:02] <r0xoR> mwe, i'd been noticing xmms stuttering when my HD was going through heavy loading, e.g. when synaptic was installing
[08:02] <simonpca> plop
[08:02] <tuskernini> ompaul, thanx for trying to help
[08:02] <r0xoR> and DMA is obviously not enabled on my drive so i'm not surprised
[08:02] <andrejkw> oh wait
[08:02] <andrejkw> the roye was gone anyway
[08:03] <nabasu> I'm trying to install dapper on my friends PC that has an Opteron 165, an Asus A8R-MVP with ATI Xpress 200 chipset and here's the tricky part: a SCSI setup with an Adaptec 39160 controller card
[08:03] <] GoldenDragon> hmm... yesterday i ran automatix and restarted my computer to see if I can hear sound in videos(AVIs) and it worked... today I restarted the computer again and now it doesn't play unless i turn all the volume to high, and even then I can barely hear it.
[08:03] <mwe> r0xoR: yes. does sudo hdparm /dev/hda or whatever your drive is confirm DMA is off?
[08:03] <hastesaver> azurehuesofblue, what do you mean the IP address is "there"? Where is it? Trying to access your comp?
[08:03] <scifi> still doesnt show up after logging out :P
[08:03] <r0xoR> mwe, yeah that's what i just ran, that's how i found out that it's off
[08:03] <azurehuesofblue> no, it's always on like... EtherApe and sniffers.
[08:03] <nickrud> scifi, dpkg -l smeg
[08:03] <r0xoR> mwe, hdparm is in my startup runlevel
[08:03] <nickrud> scifi, breezy, right?
[08:03] <mwe> r0xoR: hmm
[08:03] <azurehuesofblue> hastesaver above, sorry.
[08:04] <r0xoR> mwe, i'm pretty sure i compiled in the right DMA driver for my kernel but i could have gotten the wrong one
[08:04] <andrejkw> njan: even after the route gone, and card gone, it's still doing the same thing
[08:04] <scifi> nickrud: yeh, what does that command do ?
[08:04] <ompaul> tuskernini, you can't write to ntfs from ubuntu
[08:04] <r0xoR> nForce3 board
[08:04] <chaos_of_apocaly> can anyone tell me how to put the subtitles of the films in vlc media player?in xine it works but the film in xine is too slow
[08:04] <nickrud> scifi, it lists the smeg package if it's installed
[08:04] <mwe> r0xoR: does sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda turn it on?
[08:04] <HunterZ> hi
[08:04] <bfso> when you open a file there's an option there to chose your subtitles, chaos
[08:05] <r0xoR> hmm, yes it does
[08:05] <nabasu> anyone that can help with a tricky install?
[08:05] <azurehuesofblue> hastesaver... but I had an X friend from palto alto, I wanted to see if I could find out more with that IP addy.
[08:05] <nabasu> I'm trying to install dapper on my friends PC that has an Opteron 165, an Asus A8R-MVP with ATI Xpress 200 chipset and here's the tricky part: a SCSI setup with an Adaptec 39160 controller card
[08:05] <mwe> r0xoR: ok. then you should probably adjust /etc/hdparm.conf
[08:05] <scifi> nickrud: i think it says "ii  smeg           0.7.5-0ubuntu2 simple menu editing
[08:05] <scifi> " is installed
[08:05] <GMullen> what do i do if grub and lilo fails to install during a netinstall?
[08:06] <nickrud> good, then it should be under Applications->Sytem Tools , if my memory is correct
[08:06] <gnomefreak> nickrud: you are correct
[08:06] <bfso> use an instalation disc to recover your master boot record, GMullen
[08:06] <tuskernini> ompaul, no i cant write to ntfs, it says read only drive
[08:06] <scifi> nickrud: is it called "Applications Menu Editor" because that the one i was trying before
[08:06] <intelikey> i have a question about key binding,  anyone around that knows ?
[08:06] <GMullen> ...ok
[08:06] <nickrud> scifi, yes
[08:07] <intelikey> 0x7d 0xfd   ::: left winkey    should be  0x38 0x69 0xe9 0xb8
[08:07] <intelikey> 0x7e 0xfe   ::: right winkey   should be  0x38 0x6a 0xea 0xb8
[08:07] <intelikey> anyone ?
[08:07] <maccam94> okely dokely, i'm installing lniux on an average person's comp. 256mb ram, PIII 900mhz. Integrated graphics. Should I install Ubuntu 6.06 or 5.04? are there any stability issues with 6.06? I want to give this person the smoothest,cleanest look possible.
[08:07] <GMullen> i know saome about linux
[08:07] <andrejkw> njan: even after the route gone, and card gone, it's still doing the same thin
[08:07] <aLPHa_LeaK> maccam94: dapper.
[08:07] <GMullen> next to nothing about ubuntu install
[08:07] <tuskernini> ompaul, o o o i understand it is a statement... NO.. that is the most terrible news heard today
[08:07] <GMullen> do you know of a walkthrough?
[08:07] <scifi> nickrud: ok im in it now
[08:07] <amphi> intelikey: showkey gives that?
[08:07] <witless> hello.  i tried upgrading to dapper via update-manager and got this message:  A unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade. Please report this as a bug.
[08:07] <Healot> maccam94: you can read about the status of both releases at ubuntu.com
[08:08] <bfso> ubuntu is very easy to install! just read carefully throughout the installation.
[08:08] <intelikey> amphi yes
[08:08] <ompaul> tuskernini, well it is the result of Microsoft not publishing their api's
[08:08] <nickrud> witless, typed sudo update-manager -d ?
[08:08] <azurehuesofblue> I thought I was in #security, I'm retarted... sorry.
[08:08] <scifi> nickrud: so create a new entry for k-3d ?
[08:08] <amphi> intelikey: I don't have any winkeys here ;)
[08:09] <maccam94> Healot: i've got a cd of 6.06 that's about a month old, should i burn another?
[08:09] <nickrud> scifi, yes, (wonders what k-3d is)
[08:09] <scifi> nickrud: its a 3d modelling/animation/rendering app.
[08:09] <nickrud> ah
[08:09] <witless> nickrud: update-manager ran fine, i selected the dapper upgrade option; it went through two or three of the steps and then returned that error message
[08:09] <GMullen> i'v looked thought the ubuntu install files i didn't see anything about recovering the MBR
[08:09] <tuskernini> ompaul, so how am i going to get the data off my ext3 disk to partition it and install ubuntu on it? windows also does not read on ext3, just ext2
[08:09] <duneatreides> hello everybody
[08:09] <intelikey> amphi can i put that some place in an input file or something, so it will be the correct code ?
[08:10] <Healot> maccam94: it is advised to install the latest flight/rc for dapper, btw, the final will be release next week
[08:10] <scifi> nickrud: for the command box, i assume i need to hit the browse button and point to the executable, but i dont know where it is
[08:10] <nickrud> witless, hm, I'd file the bug, and copy all the output of of update manager to the comment section
[08:10] <Hso> ompaul, can you tell me what that mounting link was again, please? XD
[08:10] <nabasu> pm me if you feel like tackling a tricky install:
[08:10] <nabasu> I'm trying to install dapper on my friends PC that has an Opteron 165, an Asus A8R-MVP with ATI Xpress 200 chipset and here's the tricky part: a SCSI setup with an Adaptec 39160 controller card
[08:10] <intelikey> .inputrc   maybe ?
[08:10] <duneatreides> I have a problem, I just installed jre 1.5.0_06 from sun's website, and I verified that it was successfully install
[08:10] <bfso> GMullen, do you have an OS installed? like windows or somethin?
[08:10] <uscg_corey> anyone know where the evolution source directory is?
[08:10] <nickrud> scifi, a fast way to find an executable is dpkg -L k-3d | grep bin (nearly all executables are in bin)
[08:10] <maccam94> Healot: ah, thanks, so it's close to completion. I'm installing it on one of my mom's coworker's computers, so i probably won't be updating it often. I guess i'll burn another disc of 6.06 then
[08:10] <witless> nickrud: actually, i think i found it.  i had ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop installed.  when i removed the xubuntu-desktop package, the install continued
[08:11] <ompaul> Hso, context please?
[08:11] <GMullen> no
[08:11] <duneatreides> my problem is that when I type java -verison at the terminal I get java version "1.4.2"
[08:11] <duneatreides> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[08:11] <Healot> nabasu: the ati card isn't tricky at all, just i don't have any SCSI card
[08:11] <GMullen> but linspire was on it
[08:11] <maccam94> thanks for all the info Healot, aLPHa_LeaK
[08:11] <GMullen> i hate linspire
[08:11] <Hso> ompaul,  - ? eh? o.o
[08:11] <bfso> humm... so you wanted to erase it, right?
[08:11] <h3sp4wn> GMullen: Can you go on execute a shell ?
[08:11] <nickrud> witless, put up the bug anyway, plus what you did to get it to go
[08:11] <duneatreides> and it should read java version 1.5.0_06
[08:11] <andrejkw> njan: even after the route gone, and card gone, it's still doing the same thin
[08:11] <GMullen> no
[08:11] <tuskernini> ompaul, this is what i will do... change the -t of the usbhdd, gona take time but is worth it... and the only thing i can do
[08:11] <amphi> intelikey: where'd you get the 'should be' stuff from?
[08:12] <hastesaver> Hso, try asking the ubotu for ntfs and mount. One of them is probably what you want.
[08:12] <witless> nickrud: ok
[08:12] <GMullen> i did format it to f3
[08:12] <Hso> I asked you how to mount partitions, that bot thing gave me a link, but I don't remember it.. I remember it saying "automaticallymountpartitions" in it >_<
[08:12] <Hso> k
[08:12] <Hso> how do I "ask" ?
[08:12] <scifi> nickrud: ok thx new menu item works, how do i find the proper icon for it ?
[08:12] <hastesaver> Hso, type "/msg ubotu ntfs" for your answer
[08:12] <h3sp4wn> GMullen: Its on the main menu of the ubuntu netinstall/iso
[08:12] <Hso> k
[08:12] <ompaul> hastesaver, ahh that concept
[08:12] <nickrud> scifi, try dpkg -L k-3d | grep png
[08:12] <LasseL> duneatreides, did you try apt-get install sun-java5-jre ?
[08:12] <tuskernini> ompaul, thanx for your time, i appreciate it.
[08:13] <simonpca> reboot (supertramp listening.. YEAH!)
[08:13] <GMullen> ok i'v rebooted with the netiso
[08:13] <intelikey> amphi  the first code is what show key says the second code is what the code "should be"  :)
[08:13] <ompaul> tuskernini, enjoy
[08:13] <GMullen> its at boot:
[08:13] <mingo_> hi
[08:13] <rixxon> im running a windows that i am not allowed to remove. allocating disk space for ubuntu, what should i do with it? just plain empty space or should i pre-partition it / format in some file system?
[08:13] <ompaul> tuskernini, its a windows thing you can't enjoy that :)
[08:13] <amphi> intelikey: yeah, you can; look at /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz, and/or muck about with loadkeys
[08:13] <ompaul> rixxon, prepartition 10G or more is useful
[08:13] <amphi> intelikey: should be according to what?
[08:14] <hastesaver> ompaul, not appreciated? I thought it will save everyone time if more people learn to ask ubotu first, sorry if this sounds like 'rtfm'
[08:14] <intelikey> 0x7d 0xfd <--- key is   key should be --->  0x38 0x69 0xe9 0xb8
[08:14] <rixxon> ompaul: yea but i mean should i just take out some 'unallocated' space from the windows partition, or should i do something more with this unallocated space (sorry bad english :P)
[08:14] <duneatreides> LasseL, it says that it coudln't find package sun-java5-jre
[08:14] <ompaul> hastesaver, ahh that concept, no I was missing a context as I have no log of me answering that question previously to hso ;-)
[08:14] <scifi> nickrud: ur a star, all sorted :)
[08:14] <h3sp4wn> GMullen: type rescue
[08:14] <tuskernini> ompaul, what would you suggest i format the usbhdd to?
[08:15] <ompaul> tuskernini, vfat - how big is it?
[08:15] <intelikey> amphi according to propper behaviour
[08:15] <nickrud> scifi, yw. don't forget those two, dpkg -l & dpkg -L , very useful
[08:15] <GMullen> could not find kernel img rescur
[08:15] <rixxon> ompaul: like, should i make it ext3 or something, or leave it unallocated
[08:15] <tuskernini> ompaul, 30 gig
[08:15] <GMullen> rescue
[08:15] <scifi> indeed
[08:15] <Hso> ompaul, don't worry :P mounted it :D it was surprisingly easy X_X;
[08:15] <msid> i have downloaded linux headers 686 smp along with the kernel and there is no directory named build inside, thus i cannot install the spca5xx module to make my camera work. any ideas ?
[08:16] <amphi> intelikey: proper? ;)
[08:16] <GMullen> sh** i'm out of time thanks for your help i should be back later
[08:16] <ompaul> tuskernini, ahhhh, pull the data off it, reformat it ext3 with your CD and work from there
[08:16] <scifi> nickrud: whats the difference? i only these a lower case l and uppercase between those 2 commands ?
[08:16] <scifi> see*
[08:16] <bfso> does anyone has any trouble with MPlayer? mine's always stuttering... :'(
[08:16] <r0xoR> another question for yall: i'm getting garbled characters in my aterm, like little squares and stuff that certainly shouldn't be there... mostly in man pages
[08:17] <phrowzen> hi
[08:17] <r0xoR> it doesn't seem to come up much otherwise
[08:17] <tuskernini> ompaul, no-go... i would need more than one transfer... to the win pc... so must be fat something
[08:17] <nickrud> scifi, yes. one lists by package name, the second lists the files in a package
[08:17] <LasseL> duneatreides, you are not using dapper yet?
[08:17] <phrowzen> can anyone suggest the best way for me to run this command each system startup? 'sudo midentd -u phrowzen' i cant just place it in startup for my session because it requires root privs, and i dont want to do a gksudo cos i just want it to start without asking me for a password.. the -u phrowzen actually makes it spawn under my uid though, it just needs root to bind to 113 i think
[08:17] <r0xoR> i'm not using anything other than whatever aterm chooses for the default font
[08:17] <scifi> k, how confusing :P
[08:17] <intelikey> amphi yes  for the keys to do what they have always done,  on every linux up until ubuntu hosed things.
[08:17] <r0xoR> and it doesn't matter what font i choose using xfontsel, they all give garbled characters
[08:17] <frying_fish> phrowzen: add it to /etc/rc.local
[08:17] <frying_fish> and it runs on boot,
[08:17] <ompaul> tuskernini, my understanding is that vfat maxes out at 2gigs or 4 gigs or something
[08:17] <r0xoR> different characters, same spots
[08:17] <frying_fish> without the sudo part.
[08:18] <frying_fish> vfat max file size is 4tgb
[08:18] <frying_fish> *4gb
[08:18] <phrowzen> frying_fish, ahh terrific, that is the file i was looking for :) i knew it was /etc/rc.d/rc.local in slackware but i didnt know if this dist had an equivalent, thank you!
[08:18] <duneatreides> LasseL, I'm not using Dapper yet
[08:18] <bfso> does anyone have any trouble with MPlayer? mine's always stuttering... :'(
[08:18] <duneatreides> still on Breezy
[08:18] <nabasu> pm me if you feel like tackling a tricky install:
[08:18] <nabasu> I'm trying to install dapper on my friends PC that has an Opteron 165, an Asus A8R-MVP with ATI Xpress 200 chipset and here's the tricky part: a SCSI setup with an Adaptec 39160 controller card
[08:18] <r0xoR> i've got a tetra-giga-byte of storage :)
[08:18] <frying_fish> phrowzen: you could make a specific sysv init file for it, or just do that dirty hack
[08:18] <tuskernini> ompaul, and fat32?
[08:18] <maria> hey guys, im trying to watch some videos in firefox, im currently using the mplayer plugin but the video stutters alot, is there any other plugin i could use instead which might work better?
[08:18] <scifi> hmmm o dear, k-3d just crashed :P
[08:18] <r0xoR> bfso, DMA?
[08:18] <voraistos> hey people. I wanna play to civilization IV, with no Windows, and no cedega (if possible). can u help ?
[08:18] <phrowzen> frying_fish, this 'dirty hack' sounds much easier ;)
[08:18] <frying_fish> indeed
[08:18] <ompaul> tuskernini, but then I know nothing of this windows of which you speak ahh we have a 4gb offering there on the side so you can make several slices and mount them one at a time vfat = fat32
[08:18] <r0xoR> bfso, did you try totem first?
[08:18] <andrejkw> Hello
[08:18] <intelikey> vfat max size ???   do what ?
[08:19] <r0xoR> voraistos, no cedega... well that requires that Civ3 has a linux version
[08:19] <tuskernini> ompaul, i have another laptop with windows on it... for the wifey
[08:19] <intelikey> tuskernini vfat is fat32
[08:19] <frying_fish> but, thats for individual files, I would say use ext3, and get the ext3 driver for windows (works fine for me)
[08:19] <yoshiznit123> hi, is there a way to enter unicode characters directly in ubuntu, similar to [alt+xxxx]  in windows?
[08:19] <nickrud> maria, I've had pretty good luck with totem-xine-firefox-plugin , but I had to remove the mplayer plugin as well.
[08:19] <gnomefreak> maria: you can try totem-xine instead of mplayer see if it plays any better but if you look at the link i will have ubotu send you i think there is something on there about the shuddering/skipping
[08:19] <frying_fish> tuskernini: can't get wifi to work in ubuntu?
[08:19] <andrejkw> For some reason Ubuntu is not letting me have two routers plugged in (wireless, nic). Only one has internet connection connected. When both connections are enabled, nobody can connect to my computer (VNC, HTTP).
[08:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell maria -about restricted
[08:20] <maria> thanks
[08:20] <voraistos> r0xoR: u mean i can play civ3 natively ?
[08:20] <tuskernini> aahhh... samba?
[08:20] <zizie> hello
[08:20] <zizie> any1 help me pls
[08:20] <zizie> how to see what ips are registered to my server ?
[08:20] <tuskernini> ompaul... would i have to use samba?
[08:20] <LasseL> duneatreides, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:20] <andrejkw> For some reason Ubuntu is not letting me have two routers plugged in (wireless, nic). Only one has internet connection connected. When both connections are enabled, nobody can connect to my computer (VNC, HTTP). Can someone help?
[08:20] <r0xoR> voraistos, uhhh, no i mean "can you?"  ... it was my question to you
[08:20] <LasseL> duneatreides, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-6acdf8655644645c067fb9e965a66be38681b7fb
[08:20] <voraistos> r0xoR: i dont think so
[08:20] <andrejkw> Anyone, please?
[08:20] <tuskernini> frying_fish, it is working...
[08:21] <r0xoR> voraistos, well then you need cedega
[08:21] <Bazzi> andrejkw: does it work with other OSes?
[08:21] <kevin> zizie - "ifconfig /all" will list ip's of all network interfaces
[08:21] <uscg_corey> anyone know the evolution source directory by default in breezy?
[08:21] <r0xoR> voraistos, it's only like $6 man
[08:21] <tuskernini> frying_fish, thanx to ndiswrapper
[08:21] <ompaul> tuskernini, that is your call, you can if you want but your making life hard for yourself
[08:21] <frying_fish> ahh right.
[08:21] <voraistos> r0xoR: but cedega is anti free
[08:21] <tuskernini> ompaul, thats me...
[08:21] <h3sp4wn> andrejkw: You can only have one default route
[08:21] <zizie> kevin :root@safana:/home/mirza# ifconfig /all
[08:21] <zizie> root@safana:/home/mirza#
[08:21] <LasseL> r0xoR, 6$ a month
[08:21] <r0xoR> voraistos, so? buying games like Civilization III is anti-free
[08:21] <zizie> /all: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[08:21] <rixxon> i have some 17 gb unallocated disk space that i want to install ubuntu to; should i do something with the space before running installation? note that i run a windows by the side on the same computer
[08:21] <r0xoR> voraistos, and if you pirated it then we won't help you anyway
[08:22] <duneatreides> Lassel, I tried that it gives me two choices 1) /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0 2) /usr/lib/jvm/java-gci/bin/java
[08:22] <voraistos> r0xoR: nope. civ, they didnt steal anything
[08:22] <frying_fish> zizie: try without /all
[08:22] <ompaul> tuskernini, use putty and drag all the stuff you want using sftp to your wifes machine
[08:22] <voraistos> cedega did
[08:22] <r0xoR> uhhh
[08:22] <r0xoR> ok whatever
[08:22] <andrejkw> So how can I disable the other default route? I just want to be able to connec to PCS on both routers, only receive internet from one.
[08:22] <duneatreides> and I am already at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Restrictedformats
[08:22] <beasty> i got a question
[08:22] <r0xoR> beasty, just ask it
[08:22] <kevin> zizie - beg pardon, should be "ifconfig -a" (i was thinking windows, bah)
[08:22] <h3sp4wn> andrejkw: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[08:22] <tuskernini> ompaul, what i know of putty is that it keeps the windows in.
[08:22] <beasty> when i try to use 'ntpdate' my gnome crashes
[08:22] <r0xoR> beasty, i have a suitcase
[08:23] <zizie> kevin lolz
[08:23] <nickrud> duneatreides, there's a prebuilt java you can install to get sun in that list, see javadebs below
[08:23] <nickrud> !javadebs
[08:23] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[08:23] <hastesaver> duneatreides, if you don't see the sun alternative, it means it isn't installed :)
[08:23] <nickrud> hm, javadebs changed
[08:23] <tuskernini> ompaul, wil do the transfer thing... let the work begin.. take care
[08:23] <Znuff> so, is anyone familiar with the agpgart problem with 64bit CPU's (Athlon 64) and nVidia mainboards?
[08:23] <zizie> kevin : yes ty ... bt can we listed only the ip ?
[08:23] <duneatreides> but it is working fine on firefox
[08:23] <LasseL> duneatreides, did you follow the guide here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f1ebd648ec25b9095bc57b2f551519acbe69d234
[08:24] <LasseL> duneatreides, fakeroot and all?
[08:24] <h3sp4wn>  voraistos:  http://appdb.winehq.com/appview.php?versionId=4036&iTestingId=2775
[08:24] <duneatreides> no, I followed the installition guide on java website
[08:24] <voraistos> r0xoR: and they dont talk about 6 dollars, they talk about 33 pounds
[08:24] <andrejkw> h3sp4wn: http://pastebin.com/743294
[08:24] <LasseL> duneatreides, that's it then
[08:24] <LasseL> duneatreides, you have to follow the stupid ones in my link
[08:25] <voraistos> h3sp4wn: thx mate
[08:25] <LasseL> duneatreides, or upgrade to 6.06 and you can get sun java out of the box
[08:25] <duneatreides> oh why oh why do I always have that problem, I follow the installtion instructions from the vendors website, it doesn't work
[08:25] <duneatreides> why does Ubuntu require special tweaking?
[08:25] <nickrud> duneatreides, there are some more instructions there I would think, about adding java to your path
[08:25] <h3sp4wn> andrejkw: Which connection is the internet connected to the wireless or wired ?
[08:25] <andrejkw> wireless
[08:26] <duneatreides> I'm new to linux, I don't know how to add java to my path, I don't  know what a path is
[08:26] <LasseL> duneatreides, most linux distros you have to look in the distro documentation first to see how to install something
[08:26] <nickrud> duneatreides, because it's 'free' , and doesn't pay licensing fees or royalties. That means you gotta do some of it yourself
[08:26] <TabooTreez> anyone know a good gtk bittorent client?
[08:26] <gnomefreak> !java
[08:26] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:26] <void^> last time i read sun's readme for install instructions i was on os/2 warp, and they were bad even back then.
[08:26] <duneatreides> sorry, just some beginner frustration spilling
[08:26] <gnomefreak> ^^^ that site i think tells you how to add it to your path
[08:27] <nabasu> pm me if you feel like tackling a tricky install:
[08:27] <duneatreides> but what is a path?
[08:27] <nabasu> I'm trying to install dapper on my friends PC that has an Opteron 165, an Asus A8R-MVP with ATI Xpress 200 chipset and here's the tricky part: a SCSI setup with an Adaptec 39160 controller card
[08:27] <seedman> amen to begginer frustration.  but it's getting easier..
[08:27] <andrejkw> h3sp4wn: so...?
[08:27] <hastesaver> duneatreides, in general, don't listen to vendors' instructions, listen only to Ubuntu-specific instructions :)
[08:27] <hastesaver> duneatreides, right now, you're having problems installing Java?
[08:27] <h3sp4wn> andrejkw: remove the line at the very bottom of the file which says gateway 192.168.0.1 (run gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces)
[08:28] <seedman> the ubuntu forums help me a lot
[08:28] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i just hit ctrl-alt-backspace, and i can't do anything
[08:28] <h3sp4wn> andrejkw: so what ?
[08:28] <msid> i have downloaded linux headers 686 smp along with the kernel and there is no directory named build inside, thus i cannot install the spca5xx module to make my camera work. any ideas ?
[08:28] <nn> Ruh roh... trying to install phpmyadmin package on breezy (using libapache2-php5 for php5) and it's insisting i lack php (thus wanting to install php4 which removes libapache2-php5) :( ideas?
[08:28] <andrejkw> h3sp4wn: will i be able to enter the configuration page?
[08:28] <Jimmey__> wubrgamer, "startx"
[08:28] <wubrgamer> if i hit ctrl-alt 1 2 3 4 5  6 7 nothing happens
[08:28] <wubrgamer> nope
[08:28] <wubrgamer> no command line
[08:28] <andrejkw> h3sp4wn: of the router?
[08:28] <wubrgamer> nothin
[08:28] <wubrgamer> nada
[08:28] <nn> wubrgamer: ctrl-alt-f1?
[08:28] <nickrud> duneatreides, what page on sun are you using?
[08:28] <wubrgamer> tried
[08:28] <wubrgamer> nothing
[08:28] <wubrgamer> nada
[08:28] <wubrgamer> zip
[08:28] <wubrgamer> oh, i'm using dapper
[08:29] <wubrgamer> is that different ?
[08:29] <gnomefreak> wubrgamer: do you have an f lock key?
[08:29] <wubrgamer> ?
[08:29] <h3sp4wn> andrejkw: yes presuming the router is on 192.168.0.1
[08:29] <tristanmike> !tell wubrgamer about enter
[08:29] <dananddan> !mp3
[08:29] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:29] <duneatreides> hastesaver, yes, I got the the java plugin working for firefox,
[08:29] <nn> tristanmike: Where can i get more technical help wrt dpkg/packages?
[08:29] <dananddan> !emu
[08:29] <ubotu> dananddan: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:29] <hastesaver> duneatreides, great, then what more do you need? Isn't that the last step?
[08:29] <wubrgamer> oh, sorry guys, anyway i can't do anything, but my f keys work, i know what you are speaking of the f-lock have that on my other pc
[08:30] <tristanmike> nn, this is probably the best place for help, what specifically are you looking for/to do ?
[08:30] <dananddan> !mp3 player
[08:30] <ubotu> dananddan: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:30] <nabasu> pm me if you feel like tackling a tricky install:
[08:30] <nabasu> I'm trying to install dapper on my friends PC that has an Opteron 165, an Asus A8R-MVP with ATI Xpress 200 chipset and here's the tricky part: a SCSI setup with an Adaptec 39160 controller card
[08:30] <Flannel> !dapper
[08:30] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[08:30] <duneatreides> nickrud, http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting
[08:30] <dananddan> !mp3
[08:30] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:30] <hastesaver> !tell dananddan about msg the bot
[08:31] <duneatreides> hastesaver, when I do java --version at the terminal I get 1.4.2 something
[08:31] <hastesaver> duneatreides, ok, that maybe because you installed the 1.4.2 version? No?
[08:31] <eamonn> hi all, I'm on a fresh Dapper install, updated to the latest, and I've installed network-manager. I'm on a desktop, but with a wireless card. network-manager just shows "No network connection" and doesn't seem to notice the wireless network. What am I doing wroing?
[08:31] <Anusien> What wireless card?
[08:31] <Flannel> eamonn, and others, dapper support is in #ubuntu+1 until the first.  thanks!
[08:31] <nn> Basicly, i want to install the phpmyadmin package which has dep for php5|php4|php5-cgi|php4-cgi, whereas my php5 is supplied via libapache2-php5. apt while calculation installation deps cant satisify the php5 dep so it tries to install libapache2-php4, which then creates a remove for libapache2-php5, make sense? Basicly i want to force ignore of the php dep
[08:32] <eamonn> Flannel, sorry. Didn't realise. I'll go over to ubuntu+1
[08:32] <nickrud> hastesaver, he's seeing the free java only, he manually installed java somewhere & sun's is not in his path. I don't know java well, if you do...
[08:32] <h3sp4wn> andrejkw: Then after you have edited the file run 'sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth0 && sudo ifup eth1' (If you have other stuff on other networks behind the router read about setting up static routes)
[08:33] <Flannel> nn: you need to install php5, as well as libapache2-mod-php5, the libapache thing only supplies the module to link apache and php.
[08:33] <NickGarvey> !upgrade
[08:33] <ubotu> upgrade is probably Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[08:33] <eyda|mon> moo
[08:33] <duneatreides> Hastesaver, I install jre 1.5.0_06, (at least I firmly believe I did)
[08:33] <hastesaver> nickrud, well, running through all the steps on the RestrictedFormats page will surely help, in any case :)
[08:33] <nn> Flannel: you sure? the libapache2-mod-php5 should be an apache module of php5
[08:33] <WizardOfFoo> question: trying to work out why GNOME is freezing on login
[08:33] <gnomefreak> duneatreides: update 7 is the latest ;)
[08:34] <Gnuget> WTF!!!!!
[08:34] <nn> Flannel: iirc php5 is the php5 cli
[08:34] <hastesaver> duneatreides, where did you install it to? Are you averse to doing everything on the RestrictedFormats page again?
[08:34] <Jimmey__> How do I get mp3 playback in Rhythmbox? I've followed the restricted formats page..
[08:34] <nickrud> hastesaver, no, he needs a path update. (or removing his manual install, and installing a deb :)
[08:34] <eyda|mon> I reinstalled windows and now it's not dualbooting. How do I get the booting back? I need to install lilo on the mbr or some such?
[08:34] <gob> hello guys.. i need some little help. can someone telle me what is the command line for the kernel options interface ?! please
[08:34] <Gnuget> :O
[08:34] <Flannel> nn: erm, excuse me, you need to install php5-common, as well as the module.
[08:34] <gnomefreak> Gnuget: instead of comming in here using that type of language how about telling us whats wrong
[08:34] <hastesaver> duneatreides, the "path" is the list of places Linux looks for program files. You can add directories to your path with "export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/new/directory"
[08:34] <nn> Flannel: Ahh, thanks :)
[08:35] <Znuff> Does it make any sense installing nForce drivers on Ubuntu ?!
[08:35] <odat> hi everyone
[08:35] <odat> Whats the addy for repository list?
[08:35] <nn> Flannel: i installed the php5 cli (php5 pkg) and it's working now.. strange that it wasnt trying to install it but rather replace libapache2-php5 w/ libapache2-php4 and not install php4 or such
[08:35] <odat> like a default repo list
[08:35] <eyda|mon> anyone? how do I get the ubuntu boot loader back after having reinstalled windows?
[08:36] <viola> hi. does anyone know how to solve the "Could not calculate the upgrade" error when installing 6.06?
[08:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell odat about sources
[08:36] <nn> eyda|mon: got a boot floppy/cd?
[08:36] <Gnuget> gnomefreak,  sorry for  the language ^^
[08:36] <eyda|mon> nn: I have the ubuntu install cd
[08:36] <gob> hello.. can someone help me ? i need to know how reconfigure kernel options N?
[08:36] <gnomefreak> odat: to change them use gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:36] <eyda|mon> nn: right now I'm on DSL (damn small linux) I can chroot to the ubuntu install so I can access the lilo config
[08:36] <Flannel> nn: that's because php5-cli should intall -common as well.  but yeah, the apache modules are just linking.  Although, it's strange that it didnt bring -common with it.
[08:37] <duneatreides> i'm not adverse to doing things the easy way, but I'm new to linux, and I want to do things the linux way
[08:37] <nn> Flannel: gotcha
[08:37] <jesper_> join#ubuntu-se
[08:37] <Flannel> Znuff: yeah, you'll actually be installing nvidia drivers, not specific nforce drivers.  And they allow you some more options, as well as HD accelleration, etc.
[08:38] <alexito-> how do i install icons package
[08:38] <NickGarvey> duneatreides: what are you talking about? linux is the easy way (mainly a joke)
[08:38] <m_0_r_0_n> Hi, when starting mplayer to play a file I get the error: "Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound!". Any idea how to fix this problem?
[08:38] <Gnuget> alexito-,  apt-get install gnome-art
[08:38] <eyda|mon> nn: idears?
[08:38] <Gnuget> alexito-, sudo  apt-get install gnome-art
[08:38] <duneatreides> NickGarvey, I know :P
[08:38] <NickGarvey> m_0_r_0_n: something else is using your sound card
[08:38] <nn> eyda|mon: ok, you could edit your existing lilo.conf (or such) to add a chainloader entry for xp, then run lilo telling it the config file path from your ubuntu install
[08:38] <NickGarvey> duneatreides: want java?  see easyubuntu?
[08:38] <m_0_r_0_n> NickGarvey, that should be no problem
[08:38] <NickGarvey> m_0_r_0_n: what do you mean?
[08:39] <nn> eyda|mon: personally i use grub and have long since forgotten specifics of lilo configuration, however, but i can help as much as i remember :)
[08:39] <duneatreides> but I want to get my hands dirty, compilings, and sudoing and configing and stuff liek that
[08:39] <eyda|mon> nn: I've got the lilo.conf all hooked up. I just don't remmeber how to install it on the mbr ow ...
[08:39] <eyda|mon> nn: and the windows bootloader is loading first :/
[08:39] <m_0_r_0_n> Others OS are able to play several audiofiles without any trouble
[08:39] <eyda|mon> nn: if you can tell me how to use grub, I'll be cool with that :)
[08:39] <viola> i'm trying to use the installer to update to 6.06. i keep getting error messages, the latest one got me stuck: "Could not calculate the upgrade. A unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade. Please report this as a bug."
[08:39] <NickGarvey> m_0_r_0_n: I'm sure theres a way around it, but make sure something else isn't using it first before we deside thats the problem
[08:39] <stpere> eyda|mon, hmm.. have you runned lilo?
[08:39] <ryanakca> hmmm... I registered with Launchpad, and it created an ubuntu wiki account for me... how do I change the wiki account's username?
[08:40] <Znuff> Flannel, well, it seems that it only installs the network and audio driver... I'm having problems with the agp part...
[08:40] <Flannel> viola: ask in #ubuntu+1 please, dapper support is there, until the 1st.
[08:40] <eyda|mon> stpere: yes, it runs and installs just fine
[08:40] <NickGarvey> duneatreides: ok let me find the wiki
[08:40] <m_0_r_0_n> How can I find out what is using the sound device
[08:40] <eyda|mon> stpere: I'm installing the record on the wrong drive though
[08:40] <viola> thanks, flannel
[08:40] <stpere> eyda|mon, oh ok
[08:40] <eyda|mon> stpere: but I don't remember how to define it to do it on the right one
[08:40] <Flannel> Znuff: check your PM from ubotu
[08:40] <concept10> anyone seen a deb for vim7?
[08:40] <alexito-> i have gnome art installed
[08:40] <alexito-> now how i install my icons pack
[08:40] <NickGarvey> duneatreides: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249
[08:40] <m_0_r_0_n> The sound server is already disabled
[08:41] <nn> eyda|mon: well if you got lilo configured, we'll work on that first ;)
[08:41] <eyda|mon> stpere: if it's like boot=/dev/hda instead of boot=/dev/hda3
[08:41] <] GoldenDragon> can someone help me fix my sound? I started having trouble with it today.. after using automatix which made it work yesterday...
[08:41] <nn> eyda|mon: lemme grab lilo so i can check the docs :)
[08:41] <Gnuget> alexito-,  move  your icons in  .icons
[08:41] <nickrud> m_0_r_0_n, there's a simple config for mplayer that works for most people (multiple streaming) on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[08:41] <NickGarvey> ] GoldenDragon: FOOL!  automatix!
[08:41] <alexito-> yea
[08:41] <alexito-> i move Gnuget
[08:41] <alexito-> the icons
[08:41] <Gnuget> alexito-,  mv icons  ~/.icons
[08:41] <eyda|mon> nn: ok. I have boot=/dev/hda3, and I think it should be boot=/dev/hda. but I messed that up badly once... so I'm a bit cautious now :P
[08:41] <NickGarvey> ] GoldenDragon: heh just kidding, but automatix was a mistake
[08:41] <] GoldenDragon> O_o
[08:41] <] GoldenDragon> well.. it wasn't working before automatix..
[08:41] <NickGarvey> !tell ] GoldenDragon about easy ubuntu
[08:41] <NickGarvey> !tell ] GoldenDragon about easyubuntu
[08:42] <] GoldenDragon> tried that =_=
[08:42] <stpere> eyda|mon, I see here there is a drive = ... parameter you can use
[08:42] <NickGarvey> oh?
[08:42] <NickGarvey> ok well, whats not working
[08:42] <eyda|mon> stpere: there's not even a drive keyword
[08:42] <alexito-> i move Gnuget
[08:42] <] GoldenDragon> it wasnt working before easyubuntu... tried automatix.. restarted computer and it worked.. next day(today) it only works if i put all the volume high..
[08:42] <eyda|mon> not in my current conf anyway
[08:42] <] GoldenDragon> and even then i can barely hear it.
[08:42] <nn> eyda|mon: yea you need boot=/dev/hda because you want to write the boot sector into the mbr rather than the partition
[08:42] <NickGarvey> ] GoldenDragon: oh I had that problem with suse.. what did I do..
[08:42] <m_0_r_0_n> nickrud, mplayer works if I play the videofile in firefox directed, but I do get the error when playing the same file from the disc
[08:42] <NickGarvey> !sound
[08:42] <m_0_r_0_n> directly
[08:42] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:42] <Gnuget> alexito-,  now  go to  system ----- > preference -----> themes
[08:43] <nn> eyda|mon: Otherwise, windows mbr will get ran by the bios and it'll never go where you want
[08:43] <eyda|mon> nn: ok. thanks :) I just wanted someone else to confirm :P
[08:43] <] GoldenDragon> i'll look at it.
[08:43] <nn> eyda|mon: fwiw, there's a way to make xp's boot.ini chainload another partition's boot sector
[08:43] <eyda|mon> nn: as I said, I've screwed it up badly in the past (1997 or so)
[08:43] <nn> eyda|mon: I can't remember it for the life of me, however
[08:43] <nickrud> m_0_r_0_n, believe it or not, the config files for the plugin & the player are not the same ;)
[08:43] <eyda|mon> nn: I've done that too, but I think it involved some other weird executable
[08:43] <nn> eyda|mon: I personally like grub because if you screw up your config, you're still safe
[08:44] <NickGarvey> nn: yeah me too, grub for me
[08:44] <Gnuget> alexito-,  in this place  to be  your new icons,
[08:44] <eyda|mon> nn: grub just seems horribly confusing
[08:44] <alexito-> oh nice i see
[08:44] <nn> eyda|mon: it's really not too bad
[08:44] <alexito-> thanks brother
[08:44] <eyda|mon> allright.
[08:44] <eyda|mon> rebooting
[08:44] <Gnuget> alexito-,   ^^
[08:44] <eyda|mon> wish me luck :P
[08:44] <nn> eyda|mon: good luck!
[08:44] <eyda|mon> thanks :)
[08:45] <nn> now.. i need to create a 'fake' bind zone for the dungeon.lan :)
[08:45] <uscg_corey> anyone help me find the default location of evolution source? i cant get the mail notification to find it
[08:45] <m_0_r_0_n> Thanks for the hints, I ll switch to WinXP. That s faster than debugging linux stuff. Linux is no desctop system! Bye
[08:46] <Flannel> uscg_corey: did you download it?
[08:46] <uscg_corey> no
[08:46] <uscg_corey> the one that came w/ breezy
[08:46] <Flannel> uscg_corey: right, you'll need to download the source.
[08:46] <uscg_corey> well, is it actually looking for the source, or the evolution
[08:46] <EnUm> hello dear
[08:46] <eydaimon> nn: that did it :)
[08:47] <eydaimon> nn: thanks for the confirmatino :)
[08:47] <eydaimon> stpere: thanks too :)
[08:47] <EnUm> does anyone know a program for ubuntu,which is able to restore files,that i habe deleted from the trash?
[08:47] <eydaimon> i'm off!
[08:47] <Gnuget> uscg_corey,  try thos
[08:47] <Gnuget> uscg_corey,  whereis evolution
[08:48] <uscg_corey> hrm
[08:48] <uscg_corey> ive tried almost every folder
[08:48] <Gnuget> this*
[08:48] <uscg_corey> maybe i do need to download the source
[08:48] <skp1> hi, i just installed the base ubuntu server, how can i get a desktop up and running?
[08:48] <nn> hrmm... now to get dhcpd3 to do dyndns updates into bind9 ;)
[08:48] <EnUm> does anyone know a program for ubuntu,which is able to restore files,that i habe deleted from the trash?
[08:48] <Flannel> skp1: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:49] <Flannel> skp1: or kubuntu-desktop (or xubuntu-desktop)
[08:49] <srhalfwaythere> EnUm: Sorry, nothing comes to mind for me.
[08:49] <skp1> Flannel: after i do that how do i start windows?
[08:49] <Flannel> skp1: erm, windows? or the WM?
[08:49] <skp1> yes, wm
[08:49] <EnUm> hmm...anyone else?
[08:49] <Flannel> skp1: I believe they'll start automatically.  if not, 'startx'
[08:50] <srhalfwaythere> EnUm: Have you searched the ubuntu forums?
[08:50] <uscg_corey> Gnuget, none of those folders worked, so maybe it needs the source
[08:50] <EnUm> no,where are they?
[08:50] <srhalfwaythere> EnUm: try ubuntuforums.org, then clcik search in the upper right
[08:51] <thmas> welche startdatei wird immer genommen? muss eine zeile eintragen in der datei. /etc/rc.d/rc.local gibt es nicht
[08:51] <EnUm> thx
[08:52] <srhalfwaythere> EnUm: no problem
[08:52] <Flannel> !de
[08:52] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[08:52] <Flannel> thmas: geh zu #ubuntu-de bitte.
[08:52] <nickrud> EnUm, there's e2undel & recover, but they seldom work
[08:52] <Gnuget> uscg_corey,  what you need from  evolution ?
[08:52] <javierito> hola a todos
[08:52] <javierito> alguien me ayuda?=
[08:53] <Gnuget> uscg_corey,  what  your search?
[08:53] <Gnuget> s javierito
[08:53] <thmas> Flannel: habs gemerkt. falsches fenster.
[08:53] <Gnuget> javierito, dime
[08:53] <Gnuget> en qeu te ayudo =D
[08:53] <javierito> Gnet es algo jodio xD
[08:53] <javierito> pense k eran tos ingleses
[08:53] <javierito> weno
[08:53] <srhalfwaythere> Hooray for english
[08:53] <javierito> disparo
[08:53] <NickGarvey> !es
[08:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:54] <Gnuget> par aespaol tambin
[08:54] <javierito> asias
[08:54] <Gnuget> puede ser
[08:54] <Gnuget> #ubuntu-mx
[08:54] <javierito> gnuget voy al ubuntu-es
[08:54] <DeathSyndrome> where to type these scripts like "sudo mkdir /media/windows " ?
[08:54] <javierito> gnuget donde stas tu?
[08:54] <ketsugi> Can anyone recommend a good program to transcode audio formats? I have some FLACs I want to turn into AAC mp4s to chuck onto my iPod.
[08:54] <Gnuget> javierito,  #ubuntu-mx
[08:56] <srhalfwaythere> ketsugi: try this thread, it may help
[08:56] <srhalfwaythere> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82806
[08:56] <ketsugi> thanks
[08:57] <srhalfwaythere> no problem
[08:57] <uscg_corey> Gnuget, i downloaded source and its still saying its not found
[08:57] <uscg_corey> idk what its lookign for
[08:57] <uscg_corey> i think its looking for a file
[08:58] <uscg_corey> checking for EVOLUTION_PLUGIN... checking for EVOLUTION_PLUGIN... checking for EVOLUTION_PLUGIN... checking for EVOLUTION_PLUGIN... configure: Evolution not found: forcing --disable-evolution
[08:58] <kevin> uscg_corey - can you remind me of problem - are you trying to set up mail notification?
[08:58] <uscg_corey> yea
[08:59] <uscg_corey> i dont know what path it wants me to give
[08:59] <uscg_corey> im nto sure what exactly evolution_plugin is
[08:59] <kevin> ok, is that using a separate mail notifier program, or one built in to evolution?
[08:59] <uscg_corey> theres none built in
[08:59] <uscg_corey> this  programs called "mail notifier"
[08:59] <uscg_corey> im trying to run configure and it gives the error above
[09:00] <uscg_corey> i cant get it to configure w/ evolution support cause i dont know where this "evolution_plugin" is
[09:00] <kevin> ok, so separate. are you picking up mail from your internet service provider, or is it coming to a 'mailbox' on your machine?
[09:01] <voraistos> ok. i need to install dcom 98 under wine, this is what i have to do: WINEDLLOVERRIDES=ole32=n wine DCOM98.EXE   . It tells me command not found?!
[09:01] <uscg_corey> several accounts coming via pop3 into it
[09:01] <berq> hi, I'm using dapper drake and have troubles with ath0 and wep...
[09:02] <kevin> ok, i've got you now.. and it's looking for evolution source when compiling. bear with me - i'm just going to check something.
[09:03] <uscg_corey> i tried passing evolution source directory when configuring but that didnt work
[09:03] <Znuff> can someone PLEASE tell me why is modprobe looking here for this module: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-amd64-k8/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory
[09:03] <kevin> uscg_corey - you've definitely got evolution-dev installed?
[09:04] <Znuff> voraistos, dcom98.exe ?
[09:04] <nn> brb, reboot, wish me luck ;)
[09:04] <uscg_corey> the manual says i dont even need to pass it the directory since its version 2.2 or later
[09:04] <voraistos> Znuff: yea, but no worries, i just found out ;)
[09:04] <uscg_corey> kevin, now i do ;/
[09:04] <uscg_corey> dammit kevin
[09:05] <uscg_corey> thats all i needed
[09:05] <uscg_corey> ;p
[09:05] <kevin> uscg_corey - lol, no worries... i've done that *so* many times myself..;-))
[09:05] <uscg_corey> uh oh
[09:05] <uscg_corey> im getting errors during make now
[09:06] <Anusien> Well, you haven't lived until X refused to boot on you
[09:06] <uscg_corey> grep: /usr/lib/libedataserverui-1.2.la: No such file or directory
[09:06] <uscg_corey> /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libedataserverui-1.2.la: No such file or directory
[09:06] <uscg_corey> libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libedataserverui-1.2.la' is not a valid libtool archive
[09:06] <crimsun> Znuff: dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) |grep ^ii
[09:07] <Znuff> crimsun, it's installed
[09:07] <Znuff> crimsun, but I've got fglrx disabled and compiled the ati one
[09:07] <kevin> uscg_corey - try installing the libedataserverui-dev package, see if that helps
[09:08] <crimsun> Znuff: then check the install path
[09:10] <uscg_corey> kevin, yea downloading now
[09:10] <uscg_corey> egh now its asking for other packages
[09:11] <antoine-lug> hi..
[09:11] <uscg_corey> yay its working now :P
[09:11] <kevin> uscg_corey - great stuff ;-)
[09:11] <Ratzilla> the system tray for gaim disappeared...how do i get it back?
[09:11] <antoine-lug> i just format my ubuntu and as a stupid boy i forget to backup my source.list
[09:11] <uscg_corey> i think, its still compiling
[09:12] <antoine-lug> how can get me yours
[09:12] <antoine-lug> i'm on breezy
[09:12] <uscg_corey> installing now
[09:12] <kevin> uscg_corey - ok, well fingers crossed!
[09:13] <nabasu> pm me if you feel like tackling a tricky install:
[09:13] <nabasu> I'm trying to install dapper on my friends PC that has an Opteron 165, an Asus A8R-MVP with ATI Xpress 200 chipset and here's the tricky part: a SCSI setup with an Adaptec 39160 controller card
[09:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell antoine-lug -about sources
[09:13] <uscg_corey> yay it works :P thanks kevin
[09:13] <uscg_corey> for stating the obvious that i missed :(
[09:13] <kevin> nice one, happy to help
[09:14] <mrnicksgirl> I'm having problems configuring X. Before, I did something that would boot directly into console, skipping the gui. But I can't remember or google for how to do that.
[09:14] <Allz-i-> yellow
[09:14] <uscg_corey> oh great it just locked up
[09:14] <nicolas_2> mrnicksgirl: haha, apt-get remove gdm
[09:14] <lakez> i've got .. auto eth0 lo ... iface eth0 inet dhcp ... in /etc/network/interfaces, but on a reboot it doesn't get the ip address.  If I manually type :  dhclient eth0 it will.. any ideas?
[09:14] <nicolas_2> mrnicksgirl: or, update-rc.d -f remove gdm defaults or something like this
[09:14] <uscg_corey> there we go
[09:15] <mrnicksgirl> I dont want to remove gdm, but just make it to go console first. Then I was able to configure X with a little trial and error
[09:15] <lakez> any ideas ?
[09:15] <uscg_corey> just sent myself a mail, seeing if its going to work
[09:16] <Anusien> mrnicksgirl: get a piece of software called 'bum' from synaptic/apt-get and uncheck 'gdm'
[09:17] <uscg_corey> good it works, evolution now has new mail notification :D
[09:17] <mrnicksgirl> hmm bum won't install..
[09:18] <Anusien> mrnicksgirl: what won't install?
[09:18] <uscg_corey> kevin, you use network-tools by chance?
[09:18] <uscg_corey> er "Network-Manager"
[09:19] <mrnicksgirl> sudo apt-get install bum   -- error: Package bum is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:19] <gnomefreak> !info bum
[09:19] <ubotu> bum: (tool to manage bootup scripts), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 55 kB, Installed size: 348 kB
[09:19] <kevin> uscg_corey - yes, have done in the past
[09:19] <gnomefreak> mrnicksgirl: make sure you have the universe repo enabled
[09:19] <FrdPrefct> hello, what's an "easy" way to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[09:19] <uscg_corey> with you does it have a lot of extra space on both sides of the panel icon?
[09:19] <gnomefreak> FrdPrefct: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[09:20] <uscg_corey> it has a lot of excess space in my panel, could fit almost two whole icons in the blank space it creates
[09:20] <gnomefreak> FrdPrefct: type that as it is there and poof ;)
[09:20] <FrdPrefct> that's what i was looking for  ;)
[09:20] <FrdPrefct> thanks
[09:20] <gnomefreak> yw
[09:20] <kevin> uscg_corey - no, it seems ok on my rig. you can move the icon by right-clicking over it (you might need to deselect 'lock to panel' first)
[09:20] <FrdPrefct> i had the first half right
[09:21] <uscg_corey> cant right click on it, it has a menu :/
[09:22] <kevin> mrnicksgirl - if you want to set up x server from console, you can temporarily shut down the server. switch to a console, type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[09:24] <kevin> uscg_corey - i think i've got confused
[09:24] <uscg_corey> ?
[09:24] <Allz-i-> how can i change this ident -i am having troble with xchat irc - semboy@dsl-225-59.hive.is
[09:25] <uscg_corey> your identd is Allz-i-
[09:25] <Allz-i-> hehe not here
[09:25] <nickrud> kevin, uscg_corey middle-click drag, easiest :)
[09:25] <Allz-i-> i am on another irc here
[09:25] <uscg_corey> i dont have a middle click :o
[09:25] <uscg_corey> im on a laptop
[09:25] <purple> laptop ;-) you're poor, man
[09:26] <nickrud> uscg_corey, click both buttons at once, probably takes two hands :)
[09:26] <kevin> nickrud - sweet shortcut. thanks
[09:26] <uscg_corey> it just selects the menu nickrud
[09:26] <srhalfwaythere> Do you think there will be anoter RC of Ubuntu before the final release on the first of June?
[09:26] <uscg_corey> it has aright and left click menu
[09:26] <FrdPrefct> gnomefreak : getting some errors...
[09:26] <FrdPrefct> i put back orig sources.list
[09:26] <uscg_corey> if i right click on it there is no "Move" option
[09:27] <purple> can somoene give me advice about a good c++ compiler?
[09:27] <nickrud> uscg_corey, it should. another bug.
[09:27] <uscg_corey> nope
[09:28] <srhalfwaythere> uscg_corey: If there is a lock to panel button, uncheck it
[09:28] <uscg_corey> its unchecked
[09:28] <srhalfwaythere> ok
[09:28] <kevin> uscg_corey - hang on.. is this the network monitor applet on the taskbar / panel, or the actual network tools entry on the 'system' menu?
[09:28] <nickrud> uscg_corey, all panel applets should have a remove, move & lock option under the right menu
[09:28] <uscg_corey> gaim doesnt either
[09:28] <vitriol> anybody know what xine-lib is called in ubuntu?
[09:28] <vitriol> so i can install it?
[09:29] <||arifaX> how can I takeover a local session with the nx-client? how?
[09:29] <purple> i'd like to join XChat at work - is there a chance to use XChat on Windows?
[09:29] <nickrud> uscg_corey, ah, tht's not an applet, that's a notification area icon (forget what they call items in there)
[09:29] <crimsun> vitriol: libxine1c2
[09:29] <mrnicksgirl> hmm well X doesn't start up... ctrl-alt-1 doesn't get me anywhere.
[09:29] <vitriol> ty
[09:29] <uscg_corey> yea..
[09:30] <uscg_corey> the networkmanager icon has a big padding on both sides
[09:30] <uscg_corey> idk how to change it
[09:30] <ScurveyFrog> how can I get root access without using sudo?
[09:30] <ScurveyFrog> the problem being that I managed to hose sudo
[09:30] <purple> su / sudo is the only possibility
[09:30] <ScurveyFrog> and I need root access to reenable it
[09:30] <nickrud> ScurveyFrog, recommend method is sudo -i, it's equivalent. If you must have root, you're gonna need to boot into recovery mode & fix sudo
[09:31] <uscg_corey> !root
[09:31] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:31] <kevin> mrnicksgirl - that sounds like kernel crash. what video card are you configuring/
[09:31] <ScurveyFrog> nickrud: okay, thanks
[09:31] <nickrud> ScurveyFrog, or type passwd root in recovery
[09:32] <nabasu> no install experts...none?
[09:32] <nickrud> nabasu, have you been asking in #ubuntu+1, all the elite seem to be there
[09:32] <gnomefreak> FrdPrefct: what were the errors?
[09:32] <nicolas_2> mrnicksgirl: its alt-f1 to switch consoles when in console mode
[09:33] <nabasu> thanks
[09:33] <nabasu> nickrud
[09:34] <Paradoxx> is there a special way to take advantage of a multicore or multiprocessors system?
[09:34] <gnomefreak> oh well bbl gotta get stuff done here
[09:35] <ryanakca> hmmm... I registered with Launchpad, and it created an ubuntu wiki account for me... how do I change the wiki account's username?
[09:35] <crazy_penguin> Paradoxx: yes. use the smp kernel
[09:35] <Paradoxx> how do you specify it?
[09:35] <crazy_penguin> Paradoxx: you have to install it
[09:35] <FrdPrefct> gnomefreak: there we go, i set the sources.list back to orig
[09:36] <crazy_penguin> Paradoxx: one sec i will send you what to write to get it
[09:36] <nabasu> nickrud, #ubuntu+1 ? :S
[09:36] <Paradoxx> kk
[09:36] <nickrud> yes, that's the dapper channel until release
[09:36] <nabasu> can't join it :S
[09:36] <nickrud> nabasu, didn't realize you werent there
[09:36] <crazy_penguin> Paradoxx: what processor?
[09:36] <crazy_penguin> Paradoxx: amd or intel?
[09:37] <Paradoxx> intel
[09:37] <nickrud> nabasu, I see you there
[09:37] <Manika> anyone tried solaris 10?
[09:37] <mrnicksgirl> kevin: I am using AVI Radion 750 ...  I used the vesa drivers.. which I used before to get it running, then later I used fglrx
[09:37] <nabasu> d'oh!
[09:37] <nabasu> I do too -_-
[09:37] <crazy_penguin> Paradoxx: apt-get install linux-686-smp
[09:37] <mrnicksgirl> nicolas_2: well I'm not in console mode.
[09:37] <nickrud> FrdPrefct, gnomefreak stepped out, what are trying to do?
[09:37] <nickrud> meh
[09:38] <crazy_penguin> Paradoxx: type it in a terminal
[09:38] <Paradoxx> crazy_penguin: DO i have to do anything other than that?
[09:38] <Eroick> does anyone here have a wifi card working with ndiswrapper on Dapper RC?
[09:38] <crazy_penguin> Paradoxx: no
[09:38] <Paradoxx> crazy_penguin: also is there a way to specify that first install
[09:38] <Paradoxx> ?
[09:38] <mwe> Eroick: yes
[09:38] <crazy_penguin> Paradoxx: it will install himself and add himself to the boot managers menu
[09:39] <kevin> mrnicksgirl - which version of ubuntu?
[09:39] <Eroick> mwe: what device is it?
[09:39] <crazy_penguin> Paradoxx: what do you mean by that?
[09:39] <mwe> Eroick: atheros based
[09:39] <mrnicksgirl> kevin: flight 7
[09:39] <Paradoxx> crazy_penguin: i mean, when i reinstall dapper, can i choose that kernel instead
[09:39] <Eroick> mwe: hmm. i have a netgear wg111. I think its prism based
[09:39] <mwe> Eroick: AR5212 802.11abg to be presice
[09:39] <crazy_penguin> Paradoxx: i think so. if not you can install it later
[09:40] <kevin> mrnicksgirl - are you using the ubuntu fglrx package?
[09:40] <Eroick> does the liveCD have ndiswrapper?
[09:40] <Paradoxx> crazy_penguin: kk, thx much
[09:40] <mwe> Eroick: and are you using the driver recommended on ndiswrapper.sf.net?
[09:40] <crazy_penguin> Paradoxx: and it will be on you have only to make it default in the boot menu
[09:40] <crazy_penguin> Paradoxx: you're welcome :)
[09:40] <srhalfwaythere> Eroick: Whenever I have tried to install ubuntu with the live/desktop cd's it doesn't
[09:40] <Eroick> mwe:  no, but is ndiswrapper on the liveCD?
[09:40] <mwe> Eroick: I don't know
[09:41] <hallo_> serbus
[09:41] <mrnicksgirl> kevin: no ... I set up ubuntu a few months ago, got it working with vesa, then got it working with fglrx .. I just thought I'd use that same process.
[09:41] <srhalfwaythere> Eroick: What I do is download 5.10 install cd, and use that, then just upgrade everything
[09:41] <nicolas_2> mrnicksgirl: so X as started up
[09:41] <hallo_> ich meine servus
[09:41] <Anusien> stupid nvidia
[09:41] <hallo_> hallo spricht hier jemand deutsch
[09:41] <mwe> !de
[09:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[09:42] <Anusien> Hey, anyone able to grab wine packages off Synapitc?
[09:42] <hallo_> suche de sprache
[09:42] <mwe> Anusien: yes
[09:42] <hallo_> mwe wie geths
[09:42] <mwe> hallo_: gut, aber hier ist english only. my german sucks too :)
[09:42] <Anusien> mwe: it's telling me the servers are down
[09:42] <kevin> mrnicksgirl - ok, i think you'll want to grab the ubuntu package, there have been some changes in xorg 7. oh - and make sure you get the very latest kernel - there has been a problem with dapper kernels + ati.
[09:43] <kevin> mornicksgirl - i had same problem as you until this weekend when i upgraded kernel
[09:43] <Anusien> Hey, anyone have experience with dapper and nvidia?
[09:44] <nickrud> Anusien, plenty of people on #ubuntu+1 have
[09:44] <srhalfwaythere> Eroick: Another good thing about the 5.10, is it doesn't have the bcm43xx - so installing ndiswrapper correctly is easy as pie
[09:44] <kermitX_> Anusien: chipset or video. you need to be a little more specific. ;)
[09:44] <kevin> anusien - yes.. works well, but if you've got an older card, you might need to use the nvidia-legacy packages rather than the latest
[09:44] <seife> yo who remembers that file that u copy and it mounts the partition drives automatically
[09:44] <voraistos> hey. i have some problem to install a damn MSI on wine. http://wiki.winehq.org/NativeMSXML3 . It tells me (the MSIexec), that i have a bad command line ?!
[09:44] <seife> i used it once, it worked perfectly
[09:44] <mwe> Anusien: can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[09:45] <seife> someone gave me it inside here
[09:45] <Anusien> mwe: it's the default and then the one listed on wineHQ.  one sec
[09:45] <arm73c05> hi.  anyone running Xgl know how to set the cube face top/bottom images?
[09:45] <Hso> who is the ubuntu channel bot? :O
[09:45] <Anusien> kermitX_:  GeForce 4 440 GO 64M.  Initially it was telling me that 'nvidia' module wasn't installed.  The I found a guide and followed it (I can link you if you want) and it's telling me something is out of version
[09:45] <voraistos> ubotu
[09:46] <Hso> yeahs :P
[09:46] <Hso> uh.. cheers **
[09:47] <Anusien> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14797
[09:47] <uscg_corey> so i guess im only one who is experiencing the networkmanager icon space issue
[09:47] <Nameless12> can some one PPLEEASE help me I just got dual monitors to sort of work :P I need to get it working properly at the moment its kind of interlaced and distorted
[09:48] <mwe> Anusien: hmm. I'm using "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/"
[09:48] <Hexidigital_> i'm afraid to reboot my laptop... i ran a postfix install (following wiki directions) before SSH'ing into my server... attempted to reverse the install by sudo apt-get remove packages, ... it deleted LOTS of stuff...
[09:49] <ecki> i have a problem with the nvidia driver , i have compiled the new version without problems, i can start x without a problem, but if i restart the computer x can not start, so i have to build the kernelmodul on every start :( any ideas ??
[09:49] <njan> Hexidigital_, everything apt-get does is logged to /var/log/dpkg.log
[09:49] <Anusien> mwe: hrm, it can find that server, but not wine
[09:49] <mwe> ecki: huh?
[09:49] <Hexidigital_> njan:: in theory, i should be able to apt-get install everything back?
[09:49] <mwe> ecki: maybe you just need to make sure it's loaded
[09:49] <njan> Hexidigital_, 'grep remove /var/log/dpkg.log'
[09:50] <Chri[s] > how do i get my digital camera to work in ubuntu?
[09:50] <njan> Hexidigital_, yup.
[09:50] <Chri[s] > its not working
[09:50] <ecki> mwe how ?
[09:50] <Hexidigital_> njan:: thanks
[09:50] <njan> Hexidigital_, yw
[09:50] <eldruida> connect it, ubunti will detect it
[09:50] <mwe> ecki: /etc/modules. put the name in that file
[09:50] <Chri[s] > what program ?
[09:50] <svu> is there any plan for 64-bit ubuntu on ppc?
[09:50] <voraistos> can smo help? http://wiki.winehq.org/NativeMSXML3 . It tells me (the MSIexec), that i have a bad command line ?!(for some windows obscure reason)
[09:51] <Chri[s] > what program do i uses for my digital camera
[09:51] <mwe> Anusien: well it worked for me
[09:51] <Anusien> mwe: I found the package manually on sf
[09:51] <nickrud> Chamwork`, probably just plug it in, but http://www.gphoto.org/ usually has the latest info
[09:51] <kermitX_> Anusien: haven't put ubuntu on my laptop that has a geforce in it (all my desktops either have nvidia graphics or chipsets in them though).. sorry. can't help you. but i'm sure there's someone else in here that can.
[09:51] <Anusien> kermitX_: is there a better installation guide somewhere?
[09:51] <ecki> mwe its there
[09:51] <mwe> Anusien: I have 0.9.12~winehq1-1
[09:51] <kevin> Chri[s]  - gthumb image viewer by default. or try digikam
[09:51] <Anusien> mwe: *shrug*
[09:51] <mwe> ecki: then I don't know why. it sounds odd
[09:51] <kavefish> Suppose I have a single drive failure in a RAID5 array.  I can figure out the device label (e.g. /dev/sda) that's faulty, but how do I know which physical drive corresponds with that label?  In other words, how do I know which drive to replace?
[09:51] <mwe> Anusien: temp error maybe
[09:52] <Anusien> mwe: oh wait, the one sitting on sf's servers is i386 :(
[09:52] <ecki> mwe might a kind of a chown thing ?
[09:52] <nickrud> erg, Chri[s]   probably just plug it in, but http://www.gphoto.org/ usually has the latest info
[09:52] <||arifaX> voraistos did you try single \ instead of \\ just an idea
[09:52] <si9o> hi all
[09:52] <mwe> Anusien: are you on 64bit?
[09:52] <Anusien> mwe: yah
[09:53] <mwe> ecki: I doubt it.
[09:53] <voraistos> damn no, i try now !
[09:53] <mwe> Anusien: oh
[09:53] <Anusien> wh?
[09:53] <nickrud> kavefish, not really up on raid, but sudo fdisk -l probably will tell you with some interpretation
[09:53] <si9o> got a totem question: how do i install codecs for totem (GStreamer 0.8.11)?
[09:53] <nickrud> kavefish, erg, didn't read the question right, sorry
[09:53] <mwe> Anusien: are you sure they provide binaries for 64bit archs?
[09:54] <kavefish> nickrud, no worries
[09:54] <saif> hello, i am no linux geek, just added the network applet, and notice that there's a lot of incoming traffic, how can i find out what process is causing this traffic??
[09:55] <kavefish> saif, try 'netstat -taup' at the command line for starters
[09:55] <Anusien> mwe: I don't see any
[09:55] <nickrud> saif, there's also ethereal (a packet sniffer)
[09:56] <Hexidigital_> ... well.. rebooted no problem, and wlan0 came back up... *phew*
[09:56] <mwe> kavefish: iptraf is pretty good for anylyzing traffic as well
[09:57] <voraistos> I IarifaX: didnt work
[09:57] <kavefish> any takers on that RAID5/device label question above?
[09:58] <Anusien> So, anyone good with nvidia drivers?
[09:58] <voraistos> | |rifaX: didnt work
[09:58] <Some_Person> ns id wagdog
[09:58] <Some_Person> oh crap
[09:58] <Codenut> I went and messed up my etc/apt/sources.list so bad that I can't get back to the original, Can someone help me?
[09:58] <DBO> Anusien, what is your problem? =)
[09:59] <DBO> !repos
[09:59] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:59] <kavefish> mwe, thanks.  just checked it out and iptraf seems rather neat
[09:59] <Hexidigital_> njan:: apparently, it uninstalled my OpenOffice and gnupd
[09:59] <Some_Person> What do I type to install the Ubuntu Bootscreen? I know its "sudo apt-get install a..."
[09:59] <Hexidigital_> njan:: thanks for your help (again)
[09:59] <voraistos> ||rifaX: didnt work (i gat sum trouble with your nick ;) )
[09:59] <Some_Person> but what is that a word?
[10:00] <||arifaX> voraistos. the error you get is it from wine or from msiexec?
[10:00] <voraistos> ||rifaX: from msiexec
[10:00] <voraistos> ||arifaX: from msiexec
[10:00] <saif> nickrud, kavefish , thanx, can't find anything suspicious with netstat ( assuming suspicious is a process i didn't run, or donno what it is! :) will get ethereal, i downloaded firestarter, and i am afraid it messed up my iptables, how do i go back to the default ubuntu stuff??
[10:00] <salah> hi. is there any codec for playing of this video: mms://straumOD.nrk.no/Newton/2005-10-05/Newton20051002hele-900.wmv?WmThinning=0&WmBitrate=1800000&WMCache=1
[10:00] <Anusien> DBO: I downloaded their drivers and ran it, and then I got the error module 'nvidia' not installed.  I found a guide (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia) and after that it's giving me a version mis-match error
[10:01] <saif> dpkg--reconfigure iptables?
[10:01] <CalJohn> I'm trying to use gparted on a livecd to resize the ntfs windows partition on this machine, but it silently fails to resize the partition and when I refresh the partition table, no action has taken place.  any help?
[10:01] <nickrud> saif, sudo iptables -F
[10:01] <DBO> Anusien, are you in dapper or breezy?
[10:01] <Anusien> DBO: Dapper
[10:01] <||arifaX> voraistos: did you replace c:\\path\\to\\msxml3.msi with your path?
[10:01] <Some_Person> Hello?
[10:01] <nickrud> saif, sudo iptables -L to check
[10:01] <CoOlGhOsT> hey... just did an update from breezy to dapper... I lost sound in between and I cant find alsaconf... any advice?
[10:02] <Some_Person> What do you type to instal lthe ubuntu bootscreen?
[10:02] <voraistos> ||arifaX: lol yes i did, its in the c drive, directly
[10:02] <rubso> Some_Person: press Enter
[10:02] <nickrud> Some_Person, it's usplash I think, but don't ask me to understand configuration :)
[10:02] <Some_Person> thanks
[10:02] <kevin> Some_Person - I thinks it's usplash you want
[10:02] <||arifaX> voraistos: you know, sometimes it is too simple... :)
[10:02] <Some_Person> it is
[10:03] <DBO> Anusien, that howto doesnt work on dapper
[10:03] <nickrud> CoOlGhOsT, ask on #ubuntu+1, that's the place
[10:03] <sladen> !usplash
[10:03] <CoOlGhOsT> will do.. thx nickrud
[10:03] <ubotu> [usplash]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:03] <Anusien> DBO: Is there a howto I can follow?
[10:03] <Some_Person> so its sudo apt-get install usplash?
[10:03] <DBO> Anusien, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[10:03] <DBO> use method 1 if you can, it works best
[10:03] <sladen> Some_Person: see the wiki page
[10:03] <Znuff> what's gconf ?!
[10:04] <sladen> like the windows registry
[10:04] <Anusien> DBO: awesome thanks
[10:04] <salah> hi. is there ANY ways to remove totem media player? I really hate it
[10:04] <||arifaX> voraistos: try another msi to test out?
[10:04] <nickrud> Znuff, it's a per user registry of desktop configuration
[10:04] <Some_Person> thanks
[10:04] <Anusien> Now I just need to stop playing nethack long enough to do this
[10:04] <sladen> salah: sudo apt-get remove totem
[10:04] <sladen> salah: but really, that's probably unnessary, install something else
[10:04] <DBO> Anusien, you wont win anyhow =P  Nobody ever makes it out with the REAL amulet
[10:04] <nickrud> salah, that will remove ubuntu-desktop, which you'll need when upgrading to dapper
[10:04] <Znuff> compiz won't work on me =/
[10:04] <voraistos> ||arifaX: where do i find a .msi ?
[10:04] <salah> sladen, then I have to remove ubuntu too
[10:04] <Anusien> DBO: so?  I have to try
[10:05] <sladen> salah: it's only a meta-package
[10:05] <voraistos> not on ubuntu.com ;)
[10:05] <nickrud> salah, it might be easier to right click each file type & select a different player
[10:05] <rubso> Znuff: GConf is a system used by the GNOME desktop environment for storing configuration settings for the desktop and applications.
[10:05] <ecki> mwe , i am a step forward at startpoint its telling api mismatch nvidia kernel module has version 1.0.7667 but this x module has the version 1.0.8762
[10:05] <salah> nickrud, sladen I am just trying to play this video: mms://straumOD.nrk.no/Newton/2005-10-05/Newton20051002hele-900.wmv?WmThinning=0&WmBitrate=1800000&WMCache=1 but it opens in totem and totem is not starting up
[10:05] <DBO> GConreminds me of the windows registry...
[10:05] <Hexidigital_> what's the command to not need to enter sudo {command} every line? sudo -i?
[10:06] <Znuff> oh GOD, xgl is _so_ slow on me =/
[10:06] <DBO> !dapper
[10:06] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[10:06] <nzx> fusermount: user has no write access to mountpoint /media/usbdrive
[10:06] <nzx>  <-- can someone help me with this
[10:06] <nickrud> salah, ah. goto to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats , and look at alternate media players. Also, install totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[10:07] <scifi> can i print to a printer that is connected to a windows pc on my network ?
[10:07] <uscg_corey> yes
[10:07] <jhenn> i get this error when trying to play .ogg videos in totem "The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector."
[10:07] <nzx> scifi, you can with cupsys
[10:08] <uscg_corey> scifi, id recommend checking out linuxprinting.org for drivers
[10:08] <Chri[s] > fum
[10:08] <Chri[s] > how do i get my camera to work
[10:08] <scifi> no its not my printer, i just wanna kno if i can print to it over the network
[10:08] <Chri[s] > Linux does not detect camera
[10:08] <shmendrikx> just tried the new 6.06 release for ppc... anyone know why it no longer recognizes my airport (not extreme) card?
[10:08] <jhenn> Chri[s] : install gphoto
[10:09] <jhenn> shmendrikx: dapper isn't supported yet
[10:09] <Chri[s] > jhenn, gphoto2 ?
[10:09] <jhenn> Chri[s] : yeah
[10:09] <nzx> what is the gnome tv viewing application?
[10:09] <nickrud> scifi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingWithWinXP
[10:09] <jhenn> nzx: none to my knowledge
[10:10] <Chri[s] > i love linux file permissions
[10:10] <nzx> jhenn, ok, thanks alot
[10:10] <jhenn> nzx: define "tv"
[10:10] <scifi> nickrud: ty will take a look in a bit
[10:10] <nickrud> nzx, a lot of people like xawtv
[10:10] <DBO> nzx, well I guess you could say tvtime, but everyone that watches tv on linux sues mythtv
[10:10] <kevin> nzx - zapping. or try tvtime.
[10:10] <nzx> jhenn, i have a freecom dvb-t stick, which i would like to get to work
[10:10] <jhenn> nzx: sorry never did that sort of thing
[10:10] <jhenn> i get this error when trying to play .ogg videos in totem "The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector."
[10:11] <nzx> nickrud, DBO , kevin thanks alot guys
[10:11] <nickrud> DBO, heh. I just retired an 800mhz pIII , was wondering about putting mythtv on it
[10:11] <sladen> salah: it plays with  gxine '...url...'
[10:11] <DBO> nickrud, it works
[10:11] <nzx> fusermount: user has no write access to mountpoint /media/usbdrive
[10:11] <nzx> how do i fix that ?
[10:12] <jhenn> nzx: unmount and mount rw
[10:12] <nzx> jhenn, its not mounted
[10:12] <kevin> nickrud - mythtv will work on that.. but make sure you use tv card with hardware mpeg encoding - eg pvr-250, etc..
[10:12] <sladen> salah: you need various things like  w32codecs to actually decode it though
[10:13] <jhenn> nzx: put that sentence in context please
[10:13] <salah> sladen, nope, gxine is just playing the sound, not the video
[10:13] <Nameless12> I NEED HELP URGENTLY see the problem for your self http://www.filedepot.org/Screenshot.png and the xorg file at http://www.filedepot.org/xorg.conf
[10:13] <nickrud> kevin, thanks. I know it's slow, and was about to start looking for an adequate card. Thanks for the pointer
[10:13] <salah> sladen, and I get: E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[10:13] <salah>  ... when im trying to install w32codecs
[10:14] <jhenn> Nameless12: use breezy dapper isn't supported
[10:14] <nzx> jhenn, um, i am trying to mount my ntfs partition using ntfs-fuse
[10:14] <sladen> salah: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:14] <jhenn> nzx: sorry never did that before
[10:14] <kevin> nickrud - yes, it should be fine - i've got mythtv on a via epia mobo - 600MHz C3 processor... fine and dandy.
[10:14] <DBO> Nameless12, thats a common issue with dual screen and ati's driver, just restart xorg till you dont get it
[10:14] <salah> sladen, yes I have been trying to install them too
[10:14] <saif> argh! ok, i am sure somethn is wrong, i lost my connection before, i restarted, iptables -L gives me no rules, still receiving packets all the time at 10kb/s!! what should i do?
[10:14] <salah> none of them works
[10:14] <nickrud> kevin, I am reassured :)
[10:15] <Chri[s] > crapola
[10:15] <Nameless12> jhenn i just turned of the xinerama and now i have two displays :P
[10:15] <jhenn> Nameless12: can you not read?
[10:15] <cywhale> join #corewar
[10:15] <sladen> salah: wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.4_i386.deb
[10:15] <Jimmey__> Can I play .wma in Rhythmbox?
[10:15] <sladen> salah: sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.4_i386.deb
[10:16] <salah> sladen, sorry, lower in the page I saw how to install w32codecs..
[10:16] <jhenn> Jimmey__: no
[10:16] <jhenn> !tell Jimmey__ about restricted formats
[10:16] <nickrud> that page is just too damned long
[10:16] <Jimmey__> jhenn, I've see that page
[10:16] <sladen> Jimmey__: same answer as salah, you need w32codecs
[10:16] <Jimmey__> jhenn, I've installed the w32codecs.
[10:16] <jhenn> Jimmey__: so why did you ask?
[10:16] <Jimmey__> Because that regards .wmv
[10:16] <jhenn> Jimmey__: sorry i dont support those
[10:16] <Nameless12> jhenn yes i can read I just dont care much for being told what distro to use Do something constructive for a change Anyway this works how it is so blah
[10:16] <Jimmey__> There's no mention on the page of .wma
[10:17] <odin> is there any way to connect to AOL on Ubuntu?
[10:17] <jhenn> Nameless12: your on ignore congrads you're not the first today
[10:18] <scottdotmaccallu> odin: I doubt it
[10:18] <sonasks> anyone uses plesk here ??
[10:19] <haasteem> hi, how can you change the region setting of a dvd-rom in ubuntu?
[10:19] <salah> sladen, thanks, works great now!
[10:20] <Hexidigital_> what argument do i need to not require sudo in terminal?
[10:20] <Jimmey__> sudo -i
[10:20] <Hexidigital_> Jimmey__:: i'm getting an error with it :(
[10:20] <Jimmey__> What error?
[10:20] <Hexidigital_> cannot execute  binary file
[10:20] <Anusien> Yep, I didn't make it out
[10:21] <Jimmey__> When running what command?
[10:21] <bintrue> anyone have experience with connecting to a WAP using WEP or WPA on ubuntu?
[10:21] <simonpca_> ++
[10:21] <Hexidigital_> i'm configuring postfix... postconf -e 'stmpd_sasl_local_domain =' , Jimmey__
[10:21] <helpneeded> can someone tell me what would cause a dos install to fail iv tried various switches but still keeps crashing
[10:21] <sladen> bintrue: WEP is easy, WPA is slightly harder
[10:21] <haasteem> jimmey___: i know i can play dvds in ubuntu, but if i want to play a region 0 dvd on a region 1 player, what to do?
[10:22] <jhenn> how can i find out what type of memory my computer uses?
[10:22] <kevin> Hexidigital - just type "sudo su" then enter password and you'll drop into a root shell
[10:22] <bintrue> sladen, I can't seem to get the ubuntu gui networkconfig to accept my WEP key
[10:22] <sladen> jhenn: go to http://www.crucial.com/
[10:22] <Jimmey__> haasteem, I think they explain that with the link I sent to you
[10:22] <uscg_corey> can someone help me, i need to upgrade network-manager
[10:22] <jhenn> sladen: its not on there'
[10:22] <Hexidigital_> kevin:: i'd rather not use root
[10:22] <sladen> bintrue: is it a passphrase, rather than a WEP key?
[10:23] <sladen> jhenn: open it up and have a look
[10:23] <haasteem> jimmey___: ahh... ok, let me check on that, thanks
[10:23] <bintrue> sladen: I've tried both hex and ascii values
[10:23] <sladen> bintrue: is it a *passphrase*, rather than a key?
[10:24] <bintrue> the Access Point has the fields labelled as "Key"
[10:24] <sladen> jhenn: or try  sudo dmidecode --type memory
[10:24] <bintrue> ah I just figured out the problem, the WAP had to be "Open System" not "Shared System"
[10:24] <bintrue> time to research the difference
[10:25] <DarthFrog> Well, the upgrade to Dapper totally destroyed my system. :-(
[10:25] <jhenn> dmidecode: unrecognized option `--type'
[10:25] <jhenn> sladen:
[10:25] <Manika> I'm trying to burn some files but it says some have invalid filenames! how can I correct that?
[10:25] <sladen> jhenn: sudo dmidecode | less -S   then press  /   and type  'DIMM' [enter] 
[10:26] <jhenn> sladen: says sdram
[10:27] <haasteem> jimmey___: do you know what package i should look for? i have the libdvdcss2 library already installed...
[10:27] <Jimmey__> haasteem, one minute
[10:27] <mwe> Manika: what are the names?
[10:28] <Manika> mwe, that's the thing, there are too many files and I can't know which ones are invalid
[10:28] <Anusien> where was that walk-through again?
[10:28] <mwe> Manika: it doesn't say which ones are invalid? are you burning to iso9660 ?
[10:28] <Jimmey__> haasteem, To change the Region Code of your DVD player, insert a DVD from your region in the DVD player, and type the following. Install the regionset package. Run regionset on the command line.
[10:29] <irelandshope> Has anyone got Network Manager in Dapper working for WPA?
[10:29] <Manika> mwe, no it just says some are invalid.. I'm trying to burn using nautilus
[10:29] <BioVorE> Manika: is it complaing about file name length?
[10:29] <Manika> BioVorE, no it just says it's invalid
[10:30] <haasteem> jimmey___: thanks, but what should i type?
[10:30] <BioVorE> Manika: iso9660 max filename size i think is 36 chars.. if your file name is longer it barfs
[10:30] <mwe> Manika: I guess you trying to burn an iso9660 cdr then. path levels are restricted to a depth of 8 for one thing. could that be it maybe?
[10:30] <Manika> BioVorE: how can I use iso9660?
[10:31] <BioVorE> Manika: iso9660 is the filesystem used on the cdrom
[10:31] <Manika> BioVorE, it's a DVD
[10:31] <Jimmey__> haasteem, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-49d7b89e22f864732e033a68a77cfe144f23af8c
[10:31] <BioVorE> iso9660 can be used on dvd's too..  you can also use udf I beleive too.
[10:31] <irelandshope> hi
[10:32] <mwe> also I think dir names are not allowed to contain dots in iso9660
[10:33] <BioVorE> I ussualy make a tar file then write the single file to the cd..  help with things like permissions and filename size.
[10:34] <haasteem> jimmey___: ok, got it, thanks... would you by any chance also know a way in linux that disables the restriction of only being able to switch regions a limited number of times (5 usually)?
[10:35] <Jimmey__> haasteem, no
[10:35] <rrohde> does anyone know how to dock Evolution in GNOME? Like I could with Kmail in KDE?
[10:36] <mwe> rrohde: I don't know if evolution supports that
[10:36] <Irelandshope> Anyone out there got Network Manager working for WPA in Dapper
[10:37] <DBO> !dapper
[10:37] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[10:37] <helpneeded> hi can someone tell me why a live cd hangs during install (downloaded 2 hours ago) checked with md5 and disk checked for interg afterwards) both ok
[10:37] <rrohde> mwe, that's sad.. :(
[10:37] <mwe> Irelandshope: I got wpa working. Didn't use nwm though
[10:37] <mwe> rrohde: maybe it does support it. but I don't think so
[10:38] <odin_> does anybody know of a way to connect to AOL without the software on Ubuntu?
[10:38] <Jimmey__> odin_, are you using a dial up modem?
[10:38] <Irelandshope> sorry guys Ill  go yo Ubuntu+1
[10:39] <odin_> Jimmey__:  yes
[10:40] <odin_> Jimmey__: thanks
[10:40] <helpneeded> anyone ?
[10:40] <Jimmey__> odin_, you're welcome
[10:40] <homicida> moin
[10:41] <helpneeded> any advise on ????
[10:41] <Jimmey__> helpneeded, what's the problem?
[10:41] <mwe> helpneeded: at what point does it hang?
[10:42] <helpneeded> cant get installed .... live cd keeps hanging while trying to install ....  i checked the .iso with md5 checked disk integ afterwards  both ok .....
[10:42] <mwe> helpneeded: at what point does it hang?
[10:42] <airblue> I have a laptop with a native screen res of 1024x768. This proves to be a little cramped in Ubuntu. X wont let me raise the resolution. Ive heard of virtual resolution, but Im not sure what it is exactly. Is there a way to jump up in resolution?
[10:42] <helpneeded> was downloaded about 2 hours ago ... current build
[10:42] <mwe> helpneeded: at what point does it hang?
[10:42] <mwe> helpneeded: at what point does it hang?
[10:43] <helpneeded> 50 -55%
[10:43] <grammer> moin
[10:43] <gnomefreak> nickrud: was frd able to get going on the upgrade?
[10:43] <helpneeded> of install
[10:43] <mwe> helpneeded: uhm. what is it doing at that time?
[10:43] <helpneeded> installing software
[10:43] <nickrud> gnomefreak, I stepped up just after he left
[10:43] <haasteem> jimmey___: alright, thanks for the help
[10:43] <Manika> BioVorE, ok I corrected the names.. but I won't be able to use language accents then?
[10:44] <shmendrikx> for ppc 6.06 release, airport(not extreme) card is not recognized as eth1 on live CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/news/dapperrc tells me to ask here if I find a problem.
[10:44] <nickrud> meh
[10:44] <mwe> helpneeded: what software? does it stop at the same place?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> oh ok sorry bout that i had to get moving
[10:44] <Jimmey__> airblue, you could edit xorg.conf, or you could let a process do it for you - try "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", then when it asks you, choose the advanced monitor set up to choose the right resolutions..
[10:44] <systemerror> xdm is restarten if i make glxgears ! whats my problem? can anyone help me please
[10:44] <helpneeded> ah i dont know i only know its a bar on screen  in a box says intalling software
[10:45] <nzx> how do i change the way a usb drive gets mounted?
[10:45] <mwe> systemerror: it sounds like a bug, but I'm guessing it's related to 3d drivers
[10:45] <airblue> Jimmey__: Ive done that. Xorg.conf lists my higher modes (I tried 1280x1024) but they arent used.
[10:45] <nickrud> nzx, it's controlled by the scripts & settings under /etc/udev .
[10:45] <helpneeded> i dont know what its trying to install  i asume sa its the live cd its trying to install itself  on the hdd
[10:45] <nzx> nickrud, thanks
[10:45] <systemerror> it works but today it makes problems dont know why
[10:45] <mwe> helpneeded: that's useless. sorry :|
[10:46] <Jimmey__> airblue, did you edit it yourself?
[10:46] <nickrud> nzx, yw.
[10:46] <bombyx_mori> i burned the ubuntu install cd, but my computer won't boot from it. what to do?
[10:46] <mwe> helpneeded: Maybe you can get more verbose info somehow. I'm not into the details personally though
[10:46] <airblue> Jimmey__: Nope, used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:46] <helpneeded> my description  or whats happening  ????lol
[10:46] <Jimmey__> bombyx_mori, check the BIOS boot order
[10:46] <Jimmey__> airblue, what graphics card/chipset?
[10:46] <mwe> helpneeded: your description is ok
[10:47] <airblue> Jimmey__: Intel Integrated for a laptop, i845 maybe?
[10:47] <mwe> helpneeded: but only having the information that it hangs at about 50% with a progress bar is useless :)
[10:47] <bombyx_mori> jimmey- i tried getting into BIOS, but it hasn't been working! i have a compaq armada 7800- online help documents told me to press f10, but it isn't working
[10:47] <Jimmey__> airblue - what's the output of lspci, regarding graphics?
[10:48] <helpneeded> ok  next try .... iv downed the text install version ... also crashes  so what am i missing ... iv checked the forum ... others have it installed on same machine  ...
[10:48] <gnomefreak> helpneeded: start over put disk in reboot see if it stops in same place :)
[10:48] <helpneeded> yep tried ...
[10:48] <helpneeded> same
[10:48] <mwe> helpneeded: but the text install is more verbose, telling you what it's doing, isn't it?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> helpneeded: it hangs in same exact sppot?
[10:48] <mwe> gnomefreak: I asked him the same :)
[10:48] <gnomefreak> s/sppot/spot
[10:49] <systemerror> if i make glxinfo answer > wait event returned -16   if i make glxgears > xdm is restarting whats the problem?
[10:49] <helpneeded> yep ... iv posed a ? on the forum but no one seems to know
[10:49] <airblue> Jimmey__:0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[10:49] <airblue> 0000:00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[10:49] <gnomefreak> bad md5 is my guess with the info we have
[10:49] <mwe> gnomefreak: at a progress bar that is about 50% done installing software :|
[10:49] <Jimmey__> airblue, sudo apt-get install 855resolution
[10:49] <Jimmey__> :)
[10:49] <bombyx_mori> i've tried rebooting my computer several times while pressing different combinations of keys, and it just starts up windows
[10:49] <Sven_vB> hi
[10:49] <kernel-panic> hi
[10:49] <airblue> Jimmey__: Hey, thanks
[10:49] <gnomefreak> helpneeded: we need to know what it is installing at time of hang
[10:49] <gnomefreak> atleast it would help us more ;)
[10:50] <helpneeded> the windows or text install ????
[10:50] <nzx> bombyx_mori, what have you tried pressing ?
[10:50] <Sven_vB> in the ubuntu installer, which program displays the language selection list? can i use it to make a menu for my script?
[10:50] <gnomefreak> helpneeded: if its language stuff it may take a while ive had it sit there for 15 mins before
[10:50] <mwe> helpneeded: any of them. just figure what it is trying to install when it hangs
[10:50] <Jimmey__> Although I never needed 855resolution (I also have the 855GM), and I don't know how to use it
[10:50] <mwe> helpneeded: and if it is the same thing the second time you try
[10:50] <nickrud> bombyx_mori, if you've completed the install, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:50] <helpneeded> is this the windows installer ?
[10:51] <mwe> helpneeded: afaik there is only a linux installer for ubuntu
[10:51] <airblue> Jimmey__:Yeah, that was my next question :), well, Ill look around a bit
[10:51] <bombyx_mori> f1 f2 f3, etc. delete, escape...
[10:51] <gnomefreak> brb smoke and gonna think about what he means by windows installer
[10:51] <nzx> is 'users' a valid option for /etc/fstab ?
[10:51] <helpneeded> ok the gui installer
[10:51] <bombyx_mori> f10, f11 and f12 several times
[10:52] <mwe> helpneeded: I told you already
[10:52] <nzx> bombyx_mori, and none of those gets you into the bios ?
[10:52] <bombyx_mori> nope
[10:52] <mwe> helpneeded: it doesn't matter. just figure out what it is trying to instal when it hangs
[10:52] <Anusien> I'm having a problem on Dapper installing the nvidia drivers.  Logfile: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14799
[10:53] <helpneeded> ok stupid ? its how do i find out that its tring to install (gui) its just a bar it dosent list what its  installing
[10:53] <tedloon> hi all
[10:53] <nzx> Anusien, can u pate your /etc/X11/xorg.conf at patebin pls
[10:53] <mwe> helpneeded: I haven't used the gui. sorry :|
[10:53] <bombyx_mori> is there any other way to get into the bios?
[10:53] <helpneeded> cool ...
[10:54] <krang> hi
[10:54] <ftd> c.pl
[10:54] <tedloon> can someone point me in the direction of a driver for a Radeon 7500 AIW for Ubuntu / Linux? The ATI site has 8500 and above only :(
[10:54] <mwe> helpneeded: it sounds like it sucks if it doesn't even show what it is installing when it does it
[10:54] <helpneeded> ok where can i get the latest build of the text installer mine is older
[10:54] <helpneeded> used to be on teh site but cant find
[10:55] <Anusien> nzx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14800 <-- autogenerated by nvidia's xconfig
[10:55] <mwe> helpneeded: isn't there an obvious option to get more verbose info during installation?
[10:55] <helpneeded> on the gui  ... nope
[10:55] <mwe> helpneeded: that sucks. I'm tempted to file a bug report
[10:55] <nzx> Anusien, load you xorg.conf file for editing, run 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:56] <mwe> !gksudo
[10:56] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[10:56] <Anusien> nzx: sure
[10:56] <nzx> Anusien, in 'Section "Module"'
[10:56] <helpneeded> just basic ... (siple) which is nice if it woks  but no use if it fails  lol
[10:57] <mwe> please don't start gui apps with sudo. use gksudo instead
[10:57] <Anusien> nzx: yeah
[10:57] <nzx> Anusien, comment out 'Load "dri"' and 'Load "GLcore"
[10:57] <gnomefreak> !rc
[10:57] <Anusien> "dri" isn't loading
[10:57] <ubotu> The release candidate for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. For more info on how to get the release candidate see http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/
[10:57] <gnomefreak> helpneeded: theres the latest
[10:57] <helpneeded> cool
[10:57] <nzx> Anusien, then thats ok
[10:57] <rrohde> I got that installed .. works like a charm
[10:57] <Anusien> okay, that change is made
[10:58] <Anusien> nzx: is that all that is required?
[10:58] <juanca7777> hello everyone, I want to switch from nautilus to something more light like xfe, can someone help me out please?
[10:58] <nzx> Anusien, one more
[10:58] <nickrud> juanca7777, install xubuntu-desktop
[10:58] <bombyx_mori> i think it might be already set to boot from a cd... they guy who sold me this computer put windows xp on it and gave me the disc... when i try to boot from that disc it says "press any key to boot from this disc". i pressed the space bar but nothing happened... it just sat there with the "press any key..." message until i restarted it
[10:58] <nzx> Anusien, in 'Section "Device"'
[10:58] <nickrud> juanca7777, that's xfce4
[10:58] <gnomefreak> nickrud: on breezy its 4?
[10:59] <Anusien> yeah?
[10:59] <bombyx_mori> so there might be some other problem
[10:59] <juanca7777> nickrud: no I want to use gnome but without nautilus, and not that is not xfce4 that is xfe
[10:59] <nzx> Anusien,  make sure 'Driver "nvidia"' is there instead of 'Driver "nv''
[10:59] <krang> will there be an xgl update to make it better work with the ati drivers?
[10:59] <airblue> Jimmey__: FYI, this manual helps out. Apt-get install downloaded, but the result didnt work. But this link works great: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24923.html
[10:59] <krang> because fglrx isn't workin for me :)
[10:59] <nickrud> gnomefreak, yes
[10:59] <juanca7777> nickrud: xfe= X file explorer
[10:59] <pparker> hi i've installed dapper and its very cool
[10:59] <gnomefreak> juanca7777: install enlightenment and you will have  achoice for egnome in the sessions menu on the login screen
[11:00] <nzx> Anusien, if thats of, then save and try reloading the xserver, crtl+alt+backspace
[11:00] <nzx> Anusien, fingers crossed you see the nvidia logo
 hi i've installed dapper and its very cool | thats 4 sure ;)
[11:00] <pparker> but i've got one big problem: i can't get nvidia drivers working
[11:00] <juanca7777> gnomefreak: exactly I want that but using xfe not just enlightment or fluxbox
[11:00] <cywhale> JOIN #corewars
[11:00] <nickrud> juanca7777, heh. yes, it's in the universe repo
[11:00] <bombyx_mori> anyone?
[11:00] <HymnToLife> pparker> have tyou read !nvidia ?
[11:00] <Anusien> !nvidia
[11:00] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:00] <pparker> i've installed nvidia packages
[11:01] <Anusien> since I'm doing this for the 400th time, is there a way to save my session, so when gdm comes back up it runs those programs?
[11:01] <pparker> ubuntulog: y i know that
[11:01] <juanca7777> nickrud: exactly, I've already installed it, but I want to navigate using xfe not nautilus
[11:01] <nzx> bombyx_mori, have you tried veryfying the cd ? is might be a bad image
[11:01] <nzx> Anusien, when you logout, there should be an option to save session
[11:02] <Anusien> who logs out?  I've just been bringing gdm down
[11:02] <bombyx_mori> how do i verify the cd?
[11:02] <Anusien> since the nvidia installer is picky about that
[11:02] <juanca7777> gnomefreak: but I want is to navigate using xfe not nautilus, that is all I want to keep metacity, it is just for navigating the file systemp
[11:02] <pparker> but this time it seems nvidia driver file is missing from /lib/modules...
[11:02] <ompaul> Anusien, you need to log out if you want to do that - system preferences session
[11:02] <Anusien> fair enough
[11:02] <nickrud> juanca7777, ok. System-Preferences-Sessions . open that. You'll see nautilus under current session. Click it, then click the remove button. That should stop nautilus from starting
[11:02] <nzx> Anusien, you can add programs to auto start in system>preferences>session
[11:02] <gnomefreak> juanca7777: sudo apt-get isntall xfe
[11:03] <gnomefreak> install even
[11:03] <nzx> bombyx_mori, have you got linux installed? or just xp ?
[11:03] <Anusien> brb
[11:03] <bombyx_mori> just xp
[11:03] <juanca7777> gnomefreak: thanks, I have it installed already, I just wanted to disable nautilus and use xfe
[11:03] <pparker> when i type lsmod i can't get nv driver
[11:03] <juanca7777> nickrud: thanks :)
[11:04] <nzx> bombyx_mori, http://www.md5summer.org/ get that and run it on the md5sums file on the root of the cd
[11:04] <michu90> welcom
[11:04] <nickrud> juanca7777, then, setting xfe as something that gets called properly where nautilus would normally be, I have no clue :)
[11:04] <michu90> jest ktos z PL ? :)
[11:04] <bombyx_mori> ok, thanks, i'll try that!
[11:04] <gnomefreak> juanca7777: just use it it should either be in menu or in sessions menu on login screen
[11:05] <michu90> sa tu polacy ?
[11:05] <nzx> bombyx_mori, the first image i downloaded was dogey, i messed up my system :)
[11:05] <juanca7777> nickrud: lol, that was exactly what I needed to know \o/
[11:05] <Anusien> didn't work, let me paste a log
[11:05] <michu90> szukam kogos z polski
[11:05] <gnomefreak> juanca7777: sudo update-alternatives --all   will let you set all things for default use (not sure if file manager is in there but might be
[11:06] <gnomefreak> !pl
[11:06] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:06] <nzx> Anusien, hey
[11:06] <michu90> ok thx
[11:06] <pparker> nvidia drivers were perfectly working with breezy, but it seems very different with dappers packages
[11:06] <juanca7777> gnomefreak: not what I want to do is to use xfe everywhere I normally use nautilus, that is to use nautilus you don't need to select it from a menu, do you?
[11:06] <gnomefreak> pparker: #ubuntu+1 for dapper please
[11:06] <nickrud> gnomefreak, unfortunately not :(
[11:06] <gnomefreak> nickrud: its not there?
[11:06] <juanca7777> gnomefreak: will try it, thanks
[11:07] <Anusien> oh wait, I should be in ubuntu+1
[11:07] <gnomefreak> Anusien: for another 4 days
[11:07] <nickrud> gnomefreak, I don't see anything in /etc/alternatives
[11:07] <Anusien> yeah, I keep forgetting since XChat dumps me here
[11:07] <gnomefreak> damn and thats a good thing to have there :(
[11:08] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmmm
[11:08] <nzx> Anusien, what do you get when u do 'dpkg -l | grep linux-restricted' ?
[11:08] <pparker> nobody here is using a dapper with nvidia drivers ?!
[11:08] <Anusien> I'm trying
[11:08] <nzx> Anusien, what kernal ae you using ?
[11:09] <nickrud> pparker, ask on #ubuntu+1
[11:09] <nzx> pparker, i'm using dapper with nvidia
[11:09] <Anusien> nzx: I have the appropriate restricted modules.  But I'm on dapper
[11:09] <nzx> Anusien, ok
[11:09] <nickrud> me too, but try to answer dapper on ubuntu+1
[11:09] <Panzerboy> hey
[11:09] <Panzerboy> how's it goin ?
[11:09] <pparker> tell me what driver is loaded (modprobe ...
[11:09] <michu90> jak zainstalowac kadu? jestem poczatkujacym uzytkownikiem ubuntu
[11:10] <helpneeded> ok starange one iv just tried suing gparted  from the live cd on laptop partitions  and its  hung  ... that seem normal ?
[11:10] <pparker> because i don't see any nvidia .ko files
[11:10] <michu90> pomoze ktos ?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> michu90: join 3ubuntu-pl
[11:11] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-pl even
[11:11] <nzx> pparker, i had to install the linux-restricted modules for mt kernel
[11:11] <michu90> jasniej prosze ;] 
[11:11] <pparker> yes me too
[11:12] <pparker> nzx: if you do lsmod what do you see for your nvidia driver ?
[11:12] <nickrud> ok, three steps to nvidia, worked for me in dapper & breezy: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia glx ; then gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf & replace nv with nvidia under Section "Device", then log out & hit ctl-alt-backspace
[11:13] <petiteconne> has somebody of you the same problem like me with the ntp-server? i always get an error message: "error: broken count >0"
[11:13] <nzx> and in the xorg.conf, i had to disable, load dri, load glcore, and change driver 'nv' to driver 'nvidia' and it worked
[11:13] <nickrud> erm typos: nvidia-glx instead of nvidia glx
[11:13] <nzx> nzx@nzx-laptop:~$ lsmod | grep nvidia
[11:13] <nzx> nvidia               4546964  12
[11:13] <nzx> i2c_core               22848  2 i2c_acpi_ec,nvidia
[11:13] <nzx> agpgart                36784  2 nvidia,intel_agp
[11:13] <juanca7777> gnomefreak: there was nothing concerning nautilus
[11:13] <nzx> i get that pparker
[11:13] <gnomefreak> nickrud: dapper you dont have to install the restricted mods nvidia-glx will install if needed
[11:14] <gnomefreak> juanca7777: yes we already talked about it
[11:14] <nickrud> gnomefreak, and I hear that the xorg gets updated, but it works in both :)
[11:14] <gnomefreak> juanca7777: xfe cli file tool?
[11:14] <gnomefreak> nickrud: true
[11:14] <gnomefreak> nzx: use pastebin to paste please
[11:14] <nzx> sorry
[11:14] <juanca7777> gnomefreak: xfe= X file explorer
[11:15] <gnomefreak> juanca7777: is it command line tool or gui?
[11:15] <nickrud> nzx, three lines is considered sorta ok, 4 is over the line. arbitrary, but it keeps the scrolling down
[11:15] <juanca7777> gnomefreak: oh sorry, yes gui
[11:15] <gnomefreak> juanca7777: see if you can run it from cli by typing xfe
[11:15] <petiteconne> has somebody of you the same problem like me with the ntp-server? i always get an error message: "error: broken count >0"
[11:15] <nzx> nickrud, np, i will keep that in mind for next time
[11:15] <pparker> can you tell wich restricted package you got and wich kernel too ?*
[11:15] <gnomefreak> petiteconne: dapper or breezy?
[11:15] <petiteconne> dapper
[11:16] <nzx> pparker, do 'uname -u'
[11:16] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu+1 please petiteconne
[11:16] <nickrud> pparker, linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) always matches the proper package for your running kernel
[11:16] <gnomefreak> petiteconne: and yes others have that issue
[11:16] <petiteconne> ok
[11:16] <juanca7777> gnomefreak: yes, certainly I can do that, what I want to do I to avoid accessing via menu or command line, I want exactly the same behaviour as nautilus
[11:16] <nzx> pparker, that will tell u the kernel you are using, you will need to install the apporpriote module to that kernel
[11:16] <gnomefreak> juanca7777: i know what you want and im thinking of an easy solution for you
[11:17] <juanca7777> gnomefreak: :) merci
[11:17] <nickrud> juanca7777, the easiest way to run that would be Alt-F2 , and type xfe
[11:17] <juanca7777> gnomefreak: I mean thanks :)
[11:17] <gnomefreak> nickrud: what if he symlinks xfe to nautilus?
[11:17] <nickrud> gnomefreak, why in the world whould that be done?
[11:17] <pparker> here is my problem: i got kernel 2.6.15-23 and i got restricted for 2.6.15-15
[11:17] <nickrud> oh, readback explains, nm
[11:18] <juanca7777> gnomefreak, that's not what I want/need :)
[11:18] <nzx> pparker, there is a resticted module for you kernel, install it :)
[11:18] <gnomefreak> nickrud: he want to run it like nautilus runs where he dont have to click anything? hell if i know nautilus you still have to click the menu
[11:18] <nzx> pparker, i'm using that kernel also
[11:18] <marzec> greetings
[11:18] <nickrud> juanca7777, I am very comfortable saying you will not be able to do that. Nautilus is tightly integrated into gnome, xfe is not
[11:19] <marzec> i have a dumbish question: i want to get an amd64 compatible kernel for breezy badger. however, i can not find the needed packages via apt. i have the following in my sources.list
[11:19] <gnomefreak> juanca7777: make a launcher for it
[11:19] <HotDrive> good day
[11:19] <HotDrive> another day another question :)
[11:19] <d2ndsky> Hi!!!!
[11:19] <juanca7777> nickrud, gnomefreak, ok thanks I will stick to nautilus, quite frustrating, bye
[11:19] <gnomefreak> marzec: dont paste in here please use pastebin (just gettinjg head start)
[11:20] <marzec> gnomefreak, i'm on it :)
[11:20] <nickrud> juanca7777, I understand your point, but the dev's have to choose somewhere :)
[11:20] <nzx> pparker, 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`' should do it
[11:20] <gnomefreak> right click panel make costum launcher tyope xfe for the command and poof 1 click file tool
[11:20] <MENDIGO> Anyone know any software to edit and insert subtitles in video files??
[11:21] <juanca7777> nickrud, gnomefreak, frustrating because I wanted to make it work, I like nautilus I you have at least 512 ram, I have an old thinkpad with 256, sometimes is way tooooooooooooooooooooo slow
[11:21] <nickrud> had that for gentoo for a while
[11:21] <marzec> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14802 <- my sources.list file. i have no idea what sources i'm missing in order to get the correct packages needed
[11:21] <Hexidigital_> they should make "Designed for Ubuntu" stickers for our computers...
[11:21] <HotDrive> I found that I can access my Windows partition from Ubuntu, but when I create a Desktop shortcut to that partition the system don't let me see the files
[11:21] <gnomefreak> juanca7777: i told you how to fix it
[11:21] <richard> hello
[11:21] <nickrud> juanca7777, see what gnomefreak just said
[11:21] <juanca7777> s/I you/if you
[11:21] <HotDrive> tells me that I have no permission
[11:21] <richard> Ive just installed ubuntu
[11:21] <nickrud> juanca7777, best solution available in my experience
[11:22] <richard> never used linux beforee
[11:22] <marzec> linux-amd64-k8 linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8 are the packages i need, however they don't get listed with apt-cache or synaptics
[11:22] <richard> :)
[11:22] <nickrud> richard, welcome then
[11:22] <juanca7777> nickrud, gnomefreak, that is no a 'fix' at least not what I want to achieve
[11:22] <richard> um .. a friend said i should install iirc
[11:22] <richard> i managed to download it
[11:22] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[11:22] <gnomefreak> juanca7777:  it allows you to run it with ease you said you _need_ not want
[11:22] <richard> the the instructions on installing mean very little to me
[11:22] <Hexidigital_> richard:: if you need help with Ubuntu, feel free to ask here... that's what we're here for :)
[11:23] <nickrud> juanca7777, we know :( . I'd find the developers for xfe, ask them. And if you get good info, add it to the wiki for the next needy one :)
[11:23] <Surfnkid> i want to play mp3s :(
[11:23] <Surfnkid> but i cant
[11:23] <zexr0> why that ?
[11:23] <richard> oh
[11:23] <richard> thats the other thing
[11:23] <marzec> gnomefreak, http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/base/linux-amd64-k8 what source would i have to add to sources.list in order to get this package?
[11:23] <richard> I have 2 hard drives
[11:23] <zexr0> w32codecs should to it no ?
[11:23] <juanca7777> nickrud, gnomefreak I will keep launching it from the terminal, yep nickrud, if I get some info I will wiki-fy it :)
[11:23] <richard> i installed on one
[11:24] <juanca7777> thanks alll, bye
[11:24] <richard> but i cant seem to find the second hard drive
[11:24] <nickrud> juanca7777, alt-f2 xfe is faster ;P
[11:24] <pparker> nzx:impossible to find "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386"
[11:24] <Surfnkid> zezxr0 yeah?
[11:24] <richard> it was previously XP install
[11:24] <Surfnkid> well i guess ill need to figure that out
[11:24] <juanca7777> lol, alt-f2, doesn't work for me :)
[11:24] <ompaul> MENDIGO, its is easy enough with mplayer mplayer -suv video.sub video.avi where video.sub contains 0 2 for a comment at 2 seconds for time since last one get a faq online :-) its simple with mplayer
[11:24] <Hexidigital_> richard:: does it still have XP on it?
[11:25] <nzx> pparker, do you habe the universe and multiverse repo's added ?
[11:25] <richard> the install detected it ..... but the hard drive with it on was wiped
[11:25] <nickrud> Surfnkid, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-a57167a3ce442dc52d9b05e46a14503330d4e970
[11:25] <pparker> yes i got it
[11:25] <Hexidigital_> richard:: did you format the partition during the installation?
[11:25] <nickrud> Surfnkid, there's a lot of useful stuff on that page
[11:25] <richard> i just did what it said
[11:26] <richard> said that it had detected xp but it was cool to install if that was the only os
[11:26] <richard> but the drive was formatted and installed during setup
[11:26] <Surfnkid> nickrud let me see if im on the same page
[11:27] <Surfnkid> do i have to add an outside repository?
[11:27] <nzx> pparker, can you paste the output of 'dpkg -l | grep linux-restricted' to pastebin
[11:27] <Surfnkid> ta hell is a repository
[11:27] <nickrud> Surfnkid, ok, two more pages to read, ubotu (a bot) will list them below:
[11:27] <Hexidigital_> richard:: linux does not assign drive letters like windows does.  we use "mount points".. so if you automatically partitioned when you installed, chances are the drive is found.  do this::  click System -> Administration -> Disks
[11:28] <nickrud> !components
[11:28] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[11:28] <nickrud> !repos
[11:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:28] <nickrud> Surfnkid, the components & repos links above
[11:28] <ompaul> nickrud, gnomefreak just for ye
[11:28] <ompaul> !timetable
[11:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more.
[11:28] <richard> oh .... i see it
[11:29] <richard> awesome
[11:29] <Hexidigital_> richard:: :)
[11:29] <richard> *goes to test video files*
[11:29] <nickrud> ompaul, if I'm getting the context right, good
[11:29] <richard> whats the best video player for linux
[11:29] <Sub> richard, probably VLC or mplayer
[11:29] <richard> and does it come preloaded
[11:29] <pparker> nzx: i pasted it in a chan called #pastebin
[11:29] <Sub> no and no.
[11:29] <richard> on the ubunto DVD
[11:29] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:29] <Surfnkid> okk thanks nickrud
[11:29] <Sub> www.videolan.org
[11:30] <HymnToLife> !vlc
[11:30] <ompaul> pparker, we can't travel back in time to see it so you need to put stuff in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[11:30] <Surfnkid> also how do i know if the video card im using has the right video drivers
[11:30] <nickrud> ompaul, or bad, but good ;(
[11:30] <nzx> pparker, i'm in tere now, can you do it again
[11:30] <Hexidigital_> richard:: you can install packages using a simple command line tool (sudo apt-get install {package}), or in System Administration, using the Synaptic Package Manager
[11:30] <Surfnkid> universe repository.. yeah but of what!
[11:30] <kahuuna> Need help with configuring 5.1 envy24ht snd-ice1724 card. Can anyone help please?
[11:30] <Surfnkid> there's communications, network, multimedia
[11:30] <kahuuna> sound card that is with alsa
[11:30] <ompaul> nickrud, it is for people who ask why XXXversion latest is not in ubuntu
[11:31] <nickrud> ompaul, kk
[11:31] <gnomefreak> like xorg 7.1 and vim7 ;)
[11:31] <nickrud> pant (not)
[11:32] <Irelandshope> Whats the command for stopping x server please
[11:32] <nickrud> Irelandshope, log out, ctl-alt-F1, log in, type sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[11:33] <Irelandshope> nickrud thanks
[11:33] <nickrud> Irelandshope, it seems awkward, but it makes sure you lose no data
[11:34] <tdshiv> hey, i am new to linux. i have tried to install java
[11:34] <tdshiv> and it won't work
[11:35] <kahuuna> Need help with configuring sound card - snd-ice1724. Can anyone help please?
[11:35] <GMullen> ok i'm back and have the same problem....  what do i do when grub or lilo wont install to the MBR
[11:36] <ompaul> GMullen, what disk types are in that machine and what version of ubuntu are you using
[11:36] <richard> er ..... trying to install videolan
[11:36] <GMullen> i was useing the netinstall CD
[11:36] <MENDIGO> ompaul, but i want to create subtitles myself
[11:37] <GMullen> but i'm back on the i386 install disk(i think this disk may have an error on it) and into the rescue shell
[11:37] <GMullen> ubuntu breasy
[11:37] <Harold_P> Breezy
[11:38] <Coag> I was wondering how I could mount my usb mp3 player
[11:38] <GMullen> i more or less sure the disk is IDE
[11:38] <Coag> there is no /dev/sd*
[11:38] <richard> er how do i find install via command line .... terminal - where is it
[11:39] <slaine> hi all, im having a problem creating a share, can someone help me? i have created in the share folders screen but i cant access from my windows PC
[11:40] <ompaul> MENDIGO, that is how you do it for mplayer, if it works with other players great out side of that I guess your going to have to google you write to video.sub
[11:40] <slasherx> can i run ubuntu live cd on hard disk with all drives ntfs?
[11:41] <Coag> you run the livecd from the cd
[11:41] <Coag> your hdd file system makes no difference
[11:41] <ompaul> slasherx, you can run it it runs in a CD player - it matters not if you don't have hard drives
[11:42] <Coag> I plug in my mp3 player and dmesg sees it, and lsusb shows it exists
[11:42] <Coag> but I cannot mount it because it's nowhere in /deb
[11:42] <Coag> /dev rather
[11:42] <richard> think i got it
[11:42] <ompaul> Coag, /dev/ is now build on the fly do df if you don't see it then plug it into another usb slot
[11:42] <slasherx> ok tnx.
[11:43] <TheBigToe> I've installed java via synaptic and it won't work
[11:43] <Coag> ompaul: built on the fly in breezy and dapper?
[11:43] <TheBigToe> a java app will work, but it won't work in firefox
[11:43] <ompaul> Coag, in 2.6 kernels
[11:43] <daniel_99> alguien que hable espaol
[11:44] <ompaul> !es
[11:44] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:44] <ompaul> daniel_99, ^^^^ pour favor
[11:44] <Harold_P> LOL
[11:44] <TheBigToe> Java won't work in firefox for me
[11:45] <gnomefreak> TheBigToe: did you follow the guide on the restricted formats wiki?
[11:45] <slaine> i have created a share, i cant access it :( doesnt accept any username or passwork i throw at it
[11:45] <Coag> ompaul: what if say, I don't have any usb ports left
[11:45] <GMullen> what do i do if grub wont install to the mbr
[11:45] <gnomefreak> TheBigToe: dont forget to restart ff
[11:45] <Coag> my mouse is taking one
[11:45] <TheBigToe> gnomefreak, I did it the first time, but when I reinstalled I didn't
[11:45] <TheBigToe> I'll restart it again, one second
[11:45] <gnomefreak> k
[11:46] <niki> is there a bittorrent like app packaged with ubuntu?  if so, what's it called?
[11:46] <DBO> bittorrent
[11:46] <ompaul> Coag, juggle stuff around
[11:46] <kspath> niki: apt-cache search torrent
[11:47] <GMullen> what do i do if GRUB wont install to the MBR???...
[11:47] <bintrue> I have a wierd question: I'm currently dual booting Ubuntu and Windows Vista. but I decided I want to go back to Win XP instead of vista. From past experience I've always installed the MS product first then linux. How would I go about installing Windows after linux then going back to a grub controlled boot?
[11:47] <bintrue> sorry for the length
[11:47] <ompaul> GMullen, stop, a second
[11:47] <niki> kspath, thanks!
[11:47] <GMullen> sry
[11:47] <Coag> I juggled around, what now :/
[11:48] <TheBigToe> nope gnomefreak, it doesn't work
[11:48] <ompaul> GMullen, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge  it might help as might http://www.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[11:48] <GMullen> thx
[11:48] <gnomefreak> TheBigToe: did yuou get itr from the java site?
[11:48] <Harold_P> Rawr! I'm so bored.
[11:48] <slaine> when i try to access my share on windows it says can't display location
[11:48] <gnomefreak> s/yuou/you  s/itr/it
[11:49] <TheBigToe> I got it from the java site, then I reinstalled it through synaptic
[11:49] <richard> help
[11:50] <richard> how do i access files on another drive
[11:50] <richard> i dont understand the file system
[11:50] <graft> richard: what sort of drive is it?
[11:50] <richard> its a regular hd
[11:51] <richard> 80 GB
[11:51] <richard> slave drive
[11:51] <GMullen> ompaul one like is dead the other dosen't help
[11:51] <graft> richard: what file system is on it? and is it mounted anywhere?
[11:51] <richard> i see it on the storage list
[11:51] <richard> but cant work out how to access it
[11:51] <richard> previous install was xp
[11:52] <michu90> welcom
[11:52] <ompaul> GMullen, how much room are you giving to ubuntu
[11:52] <Coag> ompaul: I'm still not seeing it anywhere in /dev
[11:52] <Ademan> anyone know why ctrl+alt+backspace doesnt work, has never worked, in 3 separate installs of dapper? on my laptop
[11:52] <GMullen> the full 40gb from the HD
[11:52] <TheBigToe> gnomefreak,  I got it from the java site, then I reinstalled it through synaptic
[11:52] <graft> richard: if it's ntfs, you should probably only mount it read-only
[11:52] <ompaul> Coag, click system administation disks have a look
[11:52] <richard> yes it was ntfs
[11:52] <michu90> i'm need help!
[11:53] <richard> it has many of my documents on
[11:53] <richard> including my CV
[11:53] <roast> Ademan: is the keyboard mapping sane?
[11:53] <Coag> it's nowhere to be seen ompaul
[11:53] <Harold_P> lol.
[11:53] <kayde> i need help with instaling gimpshop
[11:53] <graft> richard: does it get recognized as a drive? did you see it during bootup as 'hdb' or some such?
[11:54] <richard> yes
[11:54] <slaine> can anyone help me with shares?!?
[11:54] <Ademan> roast: everything seems to be perfectly fine save for the ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:54] <richard> its listed in storage list
[11:54] <richard> listed under drives
[11:54] <Ademan> in fact, it even recognized the "function" key
[11:54] <richard> with disk size
[11:54] <kayde> i need help with instaling gimpshop...i dont know how to get it to install....
[11:54] <roast> Ademan: no idea from me.
[11:54] <richard> in the disk manager
[11:54] <kayde> ?
[11:54] <richard> partition is listed
[11:55] <lsuactiafner> RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3114 [SATALink/SATARaid]  Serial ATA Controller (rev 02) <- is that hardware raid?
[11:55] <graft> richard: urm... okay, i dunno about that disk manager
[11:55] <richard> status: says inaccessible
[11:55] <richard> /dev/hdb
[11:56] <graft> richard: does it have a line in /etc/fstab?
[11:56] <richard> line in? I dont know
[11:56] <richard> what do you mean by that
[11:56] <richard> im totally new to linux
[11:57] <graft> richard: type 'cat /etc/fstab' in the shell and see if it has a line for /dev/hdb
[11:57] <GMullen> a line like this is a line
[11:57] <richard> *goes to look for shell*
[11:58] <kayde> i need help with instaling gimpshop...i dont know how to get it to install....
[11:58] <MENDIGO> I need help: mendigo@virtua-cwb242-194:~$ java -jar jubler.jar
[11:58] <MENDIGO> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from jubler.jar
[11:59] <Coag> ompaul: can you offer any further guidence?
[11:59] <richard> um .... how do i access shell to find out
[11:59] <richard> cant find it
[11:59] <graft> richard: um. a terminal, you know, like gnome terminal or something
[11:59] <Coag> kayde: sudo apt-get install gimp
[11:59] <Coag> should do you fine
[11:59] <simian__> i am trying out a php tutorial and i have made a very basic php script "Hello World". But when I try to view it in a browser it says "you are trying to open a PHP script, what do you want to do with it?"
[11:59] <laserline> Does anyone know how I can delete all the Thumbs.db files (stupid windows) from my Music directory... isn't there an option that will delete that file in all the sub directories?