| cbx333 | hi pygi | 12:09 |
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| pygi | hey cbx333 | 12:09 |
| cbx333 | https://launchpad.net/products/gisomount | 12:09 |
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| cbx33 | take a look | 12:09 |
| cbx33 | thanks to you I got started in python....me and LaserJock are working on it :D | 12:09 |
| pygi | cbx33, oki, if you say so | 12:09 |
| pygi | o joy, my fault again :P | 12:10 |
| cbx33 | I wanted to thank you for my assignments.... | 12:10 |
| cbx33 | they got me started in python | 12:10 |
| pygi | heh, no need to thank me :) | 12:10 |
| cbx33 | of course there is :D | 12:11 |
| cbx33 | brb | 12:11 |
| pygi | cbx33, there is a release already ? :P | 12:12 |
| pygi | ergh, whats happening with bzr mirroring? :-/ | 12:16 |
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| cbx33 | pygi, it's because it's using knits and not weaves apprently | 12:21 |
| pygi | cbx33, ah | 12:21 |
| cbx33 | new vs old format | 12:21 |
| pygi | they should fix that :P | 12:21 |
| cbx33 | apparently they will ina a few days | 12:21 |
| cbx33 | knits is significaly faster and smaller | 12:21 |
| pygi | cbx33, gimme package of gisomount? :) | 12:22 |
| pygi | I see it's already working :P | 12:22 |
| cbx33 | of course | 12:22 |
| cbx33 | you just have to create the /media/vcdrom1 - /media/vcdrom5 dirs manually | 12:23 |
| pygi | cbx33, that no good :) | 12:23 |
| cbx33 | it will do that automatically soon | 12:23 |
| pygi | application has to do it :P | 12:23 |
| cbx33 | well, I was thinking it should be done in packaging | 12:23 |
| cbx33 | but LaserJock and I are discussing the best way to implement it | 12:23 |
| pygi | btw. congrats on your first python project :) | 12:23 |
| cbx33 | thank you | 12:24 |
| pygi | cbx33, :) | 12:25 |
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| Burgundavia | hey Amaranth, read the scroll back for ogra and I speaking about your soc project | 12:44 |
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| jeffwaddell | Hello?? | 05:56 |
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| bit_doidao | hello all! i have some little child, and would like to create something like a user, with all stuffs that edubuntu provide us. how can i dow it? | 05:59 |
| bit_doidao | im using ubuntu dapper right know | 05:59 |
| bit_doidao | just apt-get install edubuntu-desktop? | 06:00 |
| jeffwaddell | I'm not sure, about dapper as I don't have it in front of me, however it seems that you are just asking how to create a user? | 06:01 |
| bddebian | bit_doidao: I believe that should work | 06:02 |
| bit_doidao | jeffwaddell, not only a user, a user with all the edubuntu artwork, programs etc, so when my child ask me to use the computer, im gonna give him the edubuntu user and password ;) | 06:02 |
| jeffwaddell | bit_doidao...ahh I see. I believe that you will need to do the apt-get mentioned and also create a user... | 06:04 |
| bit_doidao | yes, im installing anyway. lets see what happens. ill have to create the user and put the artwork and edit the icons, right? | 06:05 |
| jeffwaddell | I don't know if the edubuntu packages give you the option of doing that when creating the user or not... | 06:07 |
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| bit_doidao | yeah. im making some contacts, and i am planning to install the edubuntu on a school near my company | 06:08 |
| bit_doidao | i live in brazil. do you know some tutorials to install edubuntu for this situation? (students will have login and password) | 06:09 |
| jeffwaddell | have you looked at the cookbook yet? | 06:11 |
| bit_doidao | just going into wikis... | 06:13 |
| bit_doidao | only have infos about ltsp server | 06:17 |
| jeffwaddell | looks like it's not there or not existing yet...I'll have to look some more.. | 06:21 |
| bit_doidao | hummm, im gonna study this. this school, near my company, have good hardware, so, ill thiking about a samba controlling the /homes and auth, and a way to create users for basic and advanced, basic will be for very little childs, and advanced for 12+ | 06:23 |
| jeffwaddell | perhaps you could document your process as you go through it so we can see what needs to be clearer | 06:24 |
| bit_doidao | jeffwaddell, certainly im gonna do that! | 06:25 |
| jeffwaddell | awesome | 06:25 |
| bit_doidao | tomorrow im gonna contact the lady from this school again and confirm the installation. but first im gonna read some samba tutorials on how to do it, if i have troubles, im going right here :P | 06:26 |
| jeffwaddell | hopefully you will find help here...you are welcome to email me at jefferydouglaswaddell@gmail.com if you need to | 06:27 |
| bit_doidao | owk, bookmarked! | 06:28 |
| bit_doidao | you know this stuff about schooltool too? | 06:28 |
| bit_doidao | ok, i need to go. see you! | 06:29 |
| jeffwaddell | bye | 06:30 |
| jeffwaddell | need to go myself...later | 06:32 |
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| lucasvo | omg | 08:50 |
| lucasvo | my pc just killed nautilus :( | 08:50 |
| lucasvo | it is using too much memory | 08:50 |
| lucasvo | something went wrong in last update | 08:50 |
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| lucasvo | where is the edubuntu testing page? | 10:26 |
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| highvoltage | lucasvo: i think it's https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Testing/CurrentEdubuntu?highlight=%28testing%29 | 10:27 |
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| lucasvo | ty highvoltage | 10:37 |
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| cbx33 | good morning #edubuntu | 10:48 |
| highvoltage | good morning cbx33 | 10:48 |
| cbx33 | hey highvoltage howz it going | 10:49 |
| highvoltage | i think it's going well. | 10:49 |
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| cbx33 | good good | 10:50 |
| highvoltage | you good too? | 10:52 |
| pygi | hey cbx33, highvoltage | 10:53 |
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| lucasvo | ah today is a stupid day | 10:53 |
| lucasvo | it's rainy | 10:54 |
| lucasvo | my backup didn't work | 10:54 |
| lucasvo | my system crashed | 10:54 |
| Burgundavia | ogra: can you take a look at this very wierd comment? http://trends.newsforge.com/comments.pl?sid=56487&cid=127031 | 10:54 |
| Burgundavia | ogra: the "didn't experience.." one, point 2 and 3 | 10:54 |
| cbx33 | yeh I'm really good | 10:54 |
| lucasvo | at least the edubuntu install went fine :) | 10:59 |
| cbx33 | lucasvo, today is a stupid day here too | 11:04 |
| cbx33 | I have to reinstall a windows pc | 11:04 |
| cbx33 | blleeughh | 11:04 |
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| lucasvo | I hate doing backups | 11:07 |
| lucasvo | I think I'll just buy swiss vault | 11:07 |
| pygi | lucasvo, whats wrong with backups? :) | 11:09 |
| lucasvo | pygi: I always do something wrong | 11:10 |
| cbx33 | ping ogra | 11:10 |
| pygi | lucasvo, you'll have a rocking backup solution (and distaster recovery system) ready for edgy, so why worries :) | 11:10 |
| pygi | disaster* | 11:10 |
| lucasvo | pygi: cool | 11:11 |
| pygi | lucasvo, that is, I hope at least you'll have it :P | 11:12 |
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| ogra | lucasvo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Current at the bottom | 11:50 |
| lucasvo | http://pastebin.com/744435 | 11:50 |
| lucasvo | totem crsheds when I load movies I made with istanbul | 11:51 |
| ogra | cbx33, pong | 11:52 |
| cbx33 | hi ogra | 11:52 |
| cbx33 | got time for a python quickie.... | 11:52 |
| cbx33 | in your excellent code | 11:52 |
| ogra | lucasvo, take byzanz, istanbul is known to have issues | 11:52 |
| cbx33 | how can i get it so when i try to close the gtk object...ie with destroy.....it pops up a message box first | 11:52 |
| cbx33 | and depending on that output it decides whether to destroy it or not | 11:53 |
| cbx33 | kinda like a are you sure...yes/no | 11:53 |
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| lucasvo | lol editing a GIF with 1000 frames is fun in gimp | 12:09 |
| pygi | lucasvo, hehe :) | 12:09 |
| cbx33 | yikes :p | 12:12 |
| lucasvo | I needed to delete 500frames | 12:15 |
| lucasvo | not being able to delete multiple layers in gimp is a little drwawback | 12:15 |
| lucasvo | :) | 12:15 |
| ogra | implement it then :P | 12:17 |
| ogra | its opensource ;) | 12:17 |
| ogra | cbx33, call a function that first shows the popup instead of destroy ... | 12:17 |
| lucasvo | well, I think it was the work worth | 12:25 |
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| cbx33 | ogra, that's the part I'm having trouble with | 12:28 |
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| cbx33 | in glade, what is the signal for the X button being clicked on. | 12:29 |
| cbx33 | i can't use destroy as the handler. | 12:29 |
| ogra | create a new function and call that from the signal handler | 12:30 |
| cbx33 | so like instead of ----- destroy - on_exit | 12:30 |
| cbx33 | I would create a new gtk window signal? | 12:31 |
| cbx33 | that's the problem i have, the signal that triggers the funtion | 12:31 |
| cbx33 | i can write the function no problem, but it's how it's called I'm having trouble with | 12:31 |
| cbx33 | all the programs I've seen use the destroy signal | 12:31 |
| cbx33 | there seems to be no close button in the gtk window signals list | 12:32 |
| cbx33 | brb | 12:33 |
| ogra | do it in python, not in glade | 12:34 |
| ogra | (i.e. dont use the glade handler, look at my code (doesnt matter which app) how i use destroy) | 12:34 |
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| cbx33 | ok | 12:40 |
| cbx33 | i tried that...:p - it said there wasn't a close_button property | 12:40 |
| cbx33 | but I'll look at it again | 12:40 |
| cbx33 | thanx ogra | 12:40 |
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| cbx33 | w00t I got it ogra | 01:02 |
| pygi | congrats cbx33 | 01:10 |
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| cbx33 | :D | 01:11 |
| awdrg321 | hi guys, long time since my last visit to any irc channel... | 01:12 |
| awdrg321 | anyway good work on the edubuntu | 01:12 |
| awdrg321 | i have 3 problems that you might be able to help... | 01:13 |
| cbx33 | awdrg321, shoot | 01:13 |
| awdrg321 | i burnd a copy to my little brother (10yo) | 01:14 |
| awdrg321 | so he will get to know linux | 01:14 |
| cbx33 | nice | 01:14 |
| awdrg321 | and he keeps calling me from downsterss | 01:14 |
| awdrg321 | is there anyway to set the vnc working on default on the liveCD | 01:15 |
| awdrg321 | like mastering... | 01:15 |
| cbx33 | awdrg321, probably yes | 01:15 |
| cbx33 | but you'd have to remove some components | 01:15 |
| cbx33 | as the cd is pretty cramped | 01:15 |
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| awdrg321 | the remote desktop is already there its just dont working on startup by default ( for security i guess ) | 01:16 |
| cbx33 | yes i would imagine so | 01:17 |
| cbx33 | ogra, would know about that one | 01:17 |
| cbx33 | so you just want it enabled by default? | 01:17 |
| awdrg321 | yes | 01:18 |
| cbx33 | I'm sure it's possible. I've not remastered an ubuntu based cd | 01:18 |
| cbx33 | but I have remastered knoppix... | 01:18 |
| cbx33 | there is a howto on the wiki. | 01:18 |
| cbx33 | but there may be an easier option, ogra any ideas here? | 01:18 |
| cbx33 | awdrg321, what's the next question | 01:18 |
| awdrg321 | the nest 2... :) | 01:19 |
| pygi | cbx33, the howto on wiki is outdated | 01:19 |
| cbx33 | pygi, is it? | 01:19 |
| pygi | cbx33, yup | 01:19 |
| awdrg321 | first i cant seems to upload anything from firefox (webmail and etc') | 01:19 |
| cbx33 | pygi, do we have an updated one | 01:19 |
| pygi | cbx33, no :-/ | 01:20 |
| cbx33 | sheesh | 01:20 |
| cbx33 | man i need that if devenix is going to go to ubuntu | 01:20 |
| pygi | awdrg321, hm, slow connection? | 01:20 |
| cbx33 | awdrg321, what happens | 01:20 |
| awdrg321 | no, no... | 01:20 |
| cbx33 | proxy issue? | 01:20 |
| awdrg321 | something very wierd | 01:21 |
| cbx33 | ok | 01:21 |
| cbx33 | tell us | 01:21 |
| pygi | cbx33, o joy, we have to fly on blind here :P | 01:21 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 01:21 |
| ogra | awdrg321, its a gconf key, look for /desktop/gnome/remote_access there you can set the defaults for vino (gnomes built in vnc server) | 01:21 |
| cbx33 | thanks ogra | 01:21 |
| cbx33 | do you have details on howto remaster a dapper live cd? | 01:22 |
| awdrg321 | i went on adding file in gmail and it just wont upload it... | 01:22 |
| awdrg321 | thank ogra.... | 01:22 |
| pygi | awdrg321, that might happen because of number of reasons :-/ | 01:23 |
| awdrg321 | i know... | 01:23 |
| awdrg321 | and its frustrating because im new to thius and i cant solve it | 01:23 |
| cbx33 | hmmm | 01:23 |
| pygi | awdrg321, what file type are you trying to upload? | 01:24 |
| pygi | gmail doesnt allow some filetypes | 01:24 |
| awdrg321 | i know... so i tried it with a differnt webmail... | 01:24 |
| awdrg321 | and nothing.... | 01:24 |
| awdrg321 | BTW it was gif so i dont think thats the problem... | 01:25 |
| pygi | what connection do you have and what are you trying to upload? | 01:25 |
| cbx33 | hmmm...odd | 01:25 |
| pygi | *filesize* | 01:25 |
| pygi | cbx33, indeed | 01:25 |
| awdrg321 | DSL via router | 01:25 |
| cbx33 | what about other outbound traffic | 01:25 |
| cbx33 | can you ftp? | 01:25 |
| awdrg321 | didnt try that.... | 01:26 |
| awdrg321 | but i can go and give it try... | 01:26 |
| awdrg321 | just a sec | 01:27 |
| awdrg321 | well.... never mind... its working now... | 01:30 |
| awdrg321 | the last thing, how can help on translating to hebrew? | 01:31 |
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| ogra | awdrg321, have a look at launchpad.net | 01:37 |
| ogra | (for translations that is) | 01:37 |
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| awdrg321 | thanks... | 01:39 |
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| mhz | cbx33: hi there | 02:22 |
| mhz | cbx33: r u there? | 02:22 |
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| juliux | hi highvoltage | 02:25 |
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| mhz | hi juliux | 02:25 |
| mhz | hi highvoltage | 02:26 |
| highvoltage | hi juliux | 02:26 |
| highvoltage | hey mon | 02:26 |
| mhz | highvoltage: IMHO, 'Using Edubuntu' at www.e.o is not as complete as ESA in wiki.e.o | 02:27 |
| highvoltage | mhz: cbx33 edited it | 02:27 |
| highvoltage | mhz: i haven't compared the two yet, to be honest | 02:28 |
| mhz | and, I also have mhz AT ubuntu DOT com (so we all look more similar) | 02:28 |
| highvoltage | mhz: although, it htink the wiki one is meant to extract from from printed pamphlets, etc | 02:28 |
| highvoltage | while the edubuntu.org one is web formatted, from what i understand | 02:28 |
| mhz | highvoltage: could you change tecnocimiento DOT cl for ubuntu DOT com, please? This way also, people wont be telling "oh, he is promoting tecnocimiento" | 02:29 |
| highvoltage | mhz: then they'll say "oh, he is promoting ubuntu"! | 02:29 |
| highvoltage | and even if they say you're promoting it? so what? | 02:30 |
| highvoltage | where do you want me to change it, btw? | 02:30 |
| cbx33 | esa at wiki will be dropped hortly | 02:30 |
| cbx33 | shotly | 02:30 |
| cbx33 | brb | 02:30 |
| mhz | highvoltage: okis, I'll pass my observations to cbx33, because the site tells people they can get help in their own language but it does not specify where :) | 02:30 |
| highvoltage | hmmm | 02:30 |
| cbx33 | mhz mail me please....then ican work on it latre | 02:30 |
| mhz | cbx33: sur, man, no prob. | 02:30 |
| mhz | highvoltage: http://www.edubuntu.org/Community | 02:31 |
| mhz | Spanish: MauricioHernandez mhz@tecnocimiento.cl | 02:31 |
| highvoltage | mhz: ok | 02:31 |
| mhz | highvoltage: thx. | 02:31 |
| mhz | BTW, did I mention the website looks cool? | 02:32 |
| mhz | it does! | 02:32 |
| highvoltage | heh. thanks. it still needs a lot of work, but i'm also quite satisfied with how far its come. | 02:33 |
| highvoltage | mhz: changed | 02:33 |
| mhz | highvoltage: roger that ;) | 02:34 |
| mhz | highvoltage: I will translate the whole site content into spanish. Any one else doing it? (know of?) | 02:35 |
| mhz | highvoltage: and... will drupal let us identify browser lang. settings? | 02:36 |
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| highvoltage | mhz_breakfast: will talk to you about that later, i have an idea, but need to run too | 02:37 |
| mhz_breakfast | okis | 02:37 |
| mhz_breakfast | c ya | 02:37 |
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| highvoltage | ogra: on the daily build for xubunut, the ltsp chroot fails, i mentioned it in #xubuntu, but they say it's not a critical bug, so i'll just file a bug in launchpad for that so long | 02:43 |
| ogra | i bet its the same prob we have with expert install | 02:44 |
| ogra | ill do one during the next tests | 02:44 |
| ogra | to see where/why its failing | 02:45 |
| highvoltage | cool, thanks! :) | 02:47 |
| highvoltage | ogra: it's right that i file a bug? or should i leave that to you? | 02:47 |
| ogra | no, file it please | 02:48 |
| ogra | also could someone file a bug about the missing cursor theme in edubuntu, so i have something to point mdz at ? | 02:48 |
| highvoltage | ok. any logs that i should attach? | 02:48 |
| highvoltage | ok, i can do that while i'm there | 02:48 |
| ogra | /var/log/installer/messages if it contains anything | 02:48 |
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| highvoltage | ogra: what would the package be called for the gnome-cursor-theme? | 02:59 |
| ogra | edubuntu-artwork | 02:59 |
| ogra | "missing the cursor theme" or something | 02:59 |
| highvoltage | ok | 02:59 |
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| jsgotangco | hi guys | 03:00 |
| ogra | hey jsgAWAY | 03:01 |
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| omega7 | i was able to use the netboot directory on the cd to install ubuntu using pxe. is that possible for edubuntu? I have an old laptop without a cdrom drive. | 03:28 |
| ogra | nope, there is no edubuntu netboot installer | 03:29 |
| ogra | you can install ubuntu and install the edubuntu metapackages on top (will need some manual work to set up ltsp if you want that) | 03:29 |
| omega7 | alright | 03:31 |
| omega7 | thx | 03:31 |
| spacey | highvoltage: ping | 03:31 |
| pygi | jsgotangco, poke :) | 03:37 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 03:37 |
| pygi | you have time? | 03:38 |
| pygi | we need to discuss your students work :) | 03:38 |
| highvoltage | spacey: pingback | 03:38 |
| jsgotangco | pygi: gimme an hour if you could, just finishing up some code (just read JaneW email as well) | 03:38 |
| pygi | jsgotangco, oki, no problem :) | 03:39 |
| spacey | highvoltage: how do you link from one page to another within drupal? | 03:39 |
| jsgotangco | a URL | 03:39 |
| spacey | whole URL? or relative? | 03:40 |
| jsgotangco | a relative should work | 03:40 |
| spacey | i figured drupal had something special like wiki's have | 03:40 |
| pygi | spacey, will you finish your chapters/articles in like 6 hours, or should I write them? | 03:40 |
| jsgotangco | well i think the system was configured with modrewerite | 03:40 |
| highvoltage | spacey: i link to relative url usually | 03:41 |
| spacey | pygi: i have no real idea what to write for the remaining chapters | 03:41 |
| pygi | spacey, ah,ok, I'll write it | 03:42 |
| spacey | i guess you can scrap the security chapter | 03:42 |
| spacey | it will be very incomplete in any case | 03:42 |
| spacey | or too difficult | 03:43 |
| pygi | spacey, no worries, me and HedgeMage will finish all | 03:43 |
| spacey | pygi: what would you put int he security chap? | 03:43 |
| pygi | spacey, I am not sure, but I'll think of something | 03:44 |
| pygi | tunneling through SSH and such | 03:44 |
| spacey | pygi: like i said you can also decide to scrap it | 03:44 |
| spacey | pygi: i don't think thats really useful for setting up edubuntu | 03:44 |
| spacey | pygi: i can create a spare hour today for the cookbook, if you have some chapters which you would like me to proofread | 03:45 |
| pygi | spacey, anything you could proofread is fine | 03:45 |
| pygi | which is up ATM | 03:45 |
| spacey | ok | 03:46 |
| spacey | will do | 03:46 |
| spacey | highvoltage: how did you get rid of that login box? | 03:52 |
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| highvoltage | spacey: i think it's at the 'blocks' configuration | 03:59 |
| mhz_breakfast | re | 04:03 |
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| spacey | highvoltage: that thing that you have to pass a variable to show it? else i don't know how to login | 04:04 |
| mhz | highvoltage: r u back? | 04:06 |
| highvoltage | spacey: you can also visit login by going to url /user | 04:07 |
| highvoltage | mhz: kind of :) | 04:07 |
| mhz | highvoltage: when would you be? | 04:07 |
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| highvoltage | mhz: ~in an hour or so, when i leave work. things are a bit hectic at work today | 04:08 |
| mhz | no worries, highvoltage, my mon. I can wait. Good luck at work stuff. | 04:09 |
| mhz | ping me when you can talk about translations for edubuntu ;) | 04:10 |
| jsgotangco | pygi: pong | 04:11 |
| pygi | jsgotangco, haven't you already done "pong" stuff? :) | 04:11 |
| jsgotangco | pygi: what are we going to discuss? | 04:11 |
| spacey | highvoltage: ah thats nice | 04:11 |
| pygi | jsgotangco, once your student is here, we have to discuss "Pyro" :) | 04:13 |
| jsgotangco | ahhh | 04:14 |
| jsgotangco | highvoltage: that's a bug??? | 04:36 |
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| highvoltage | jsgotangco: yep | 04:36 |
| highvoltage | ogra: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/edubuntu-artwork/+bug/47304 | 04:37 |
| ogra | highvoltage, ah, thatnks i'll add the bug # to DapperReleaseRadar, | 04:37 |
| highvoltage | ok | 04:38 |
| ogra | we wont get it on the CD ... but into -updates | 04:38 |
| ogra | since nobody noticed or filed it during the CD tests it seems not noticeable enough | 04:38 |
| highvoltage | ogra: did the updates used to include fixes like that, or just security fixes? | 04:38 |
| ogra | -security has the security fixes | 04:39 |
| highvoltage | ah, was there an -updates before? | 04:39 |
| ogra | -updates is for special purpose ... | 04:39 |
| ogra | yep | 04:39 |
| ogra | since warty | 04:39 |
| highvoltage | nice. will things like firefox 2.0, etc be available in updates once its released? | 04:39 |
| ogra | nope, never | 04:39 |
| highvoltage | hmmm... i didn't no about the -updates... | 04:40 |
| ogra | only stuff that doesnt require big testing runs or breaqks dependencys | 04:40 |
| highvoltage | ok | 04:40 |
| ogra | ff 2.0 would require to rebuild half the worls | 04:40 |
| ogra | s/s/d | 04:40 |
| pygi | what about ff 3.0? :) | 04:40 |
| ogra | egdy+1 -updates you mean ? | 04:41 |
| highvoltage | pygi: ff 3.0 won't be called ff anymore | 04:41 |
| highvoltage | ogra: no, i think you understood my question correctly, and answered it too :) | 04:41 |
| pygi | highvoltage, That dynamite thingy? :) | 04:41 |
| highvoltage | pygi: heh | 04:41 |
| pygi | what? :P | 04:42 |
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| ryan_rousseau | jsgotangco, pygi: hello | 04:44 |
| pygi | ryan_rousseau, hi | 04:44 |
| pygi | ryan_rousseau, may you please explain the problem ? :) | 04:45 |
| ryan_rousseau | Well, the remote object module I'm using, Pyro, is currently in the universe, and it seems that getting it upgraded to the main repository may be difficult | 04:46 |
| jsgotangco | well that's what we're about to ask as well | 04:46 |
| jsgotangco | (actually pygi is more interested on it, i didnt notice it till he pinged me about it) | 04:46 |
| ogra | ryan_rousseau, just make sure its licensing isnt insane and it doesnt depend on too much stuff, its not hard to get sane stuff to main | 04:47 |
| pygi | ogra, it's not sane, thats problem :) | 04:47 |
| pygi | security-wise | 04:47 |
| jsgotangco | oh | 04:47 |
| ogra | what is not sane about it ? | 04:47 |
| ogra | can you be more specific ? | 04:48 |
| pygi | ryan_rousseau, you have that link? | 04:48 |
| ryan_rousseau | http://pyro.sourceforge.net/manual/9-security.html | 04:48 |
| ogra | sadly we're in the middle of preparing the final dapper isos, so nobody will have much time to talk the next 48h | 04:48 |
| ryan_rousseau | it says there's the possibility for security problems, but I don't know of any cases where there have been problems | 04:49 |
| ryan_rousseau | supposedly it's being used in a banking system in Spain | 04:49 |
| ogra | doesnt look worse then the avahi-daemon | 04:49 |
| ogra | s/then/than/ | 04:49 |
| ogra | i.e. if yu open a network port to the outside world, thats indeed a *potential* security risk | 04:50 |
| ogra | but do you need network functionallity for your project at all ? | 04:50 |
| pygi | yup, he does | 04:50 |
| ogra | what for ? # | 04:51 |
| ogra | that was the quizzling thing, right ? | 04:51 |
| ryan_rousseau | The plan is for teachers to host the objects on their computer, allowing students to connect to them through Pyro | 04:51 |
| ryan_rousseau | right, plus an activity manager | 04:51 |
| ogra | can you use something like tls with pyro so the traffic gets encrypted ? | 04:52 |
| ogra | then it wouldnt be a prob | 04:52 |
| ryan_rousseau | yes, Pyro has ssl support | 04:52 |
| ogra | else i'd rather fear the students to hack into the resulst | 04:52 |
| ogra | (not generally security ) | 04:52 |
| mhz | how about UserModeLinux? | 04:53 |
| ryan_rousseau | right, I was thinking of not storing the answers in the actual object | 04:53 |
| ogra | thats fine, try to incorporate tls/ssl into it and you are fine then | 04:53 |
| ogra | movin pyro to main shouldnt be a prob | 04:53 |
| ryan_rousseau | but just have their answers sent back to the teacher, then do the checking separately | 04:53 |
| jsgotangco | sorry i was talking to my mom (real big issue at home atm) | 04:53 |
| ogra | mhz, what about it ? | 04:53 |
| ogra | we dont have it | 04:53 |
| ryan_rousseau | jsgotangco, I hope everythings ok | 04:54 |
| mhz | oh, then never mind | 04:54 |
| jsgotangco | ryan_rousseau: so yeah, ditto on ogra's suggestion too, i'd rather have do the ssl route since Pyro supports | 04:54 |
| ryan_rousseau | awesome, thanks very much for the clarification guys. I'll continue working on my specs as is | 04:56 |
| jsgotangco | ryan_rousseau: expect an email from me later (for formality though) | 04:56 |
| ogra | ryan_rousseau, pitti would be the person to talk to about security and main inclusion but he's very busy currently | 04:56 |
| ryan_rousseau | ogra, I understand, with the big release and all | 04:57 |
| jsgotangco | ryan_rousseau: if you got an updated spec, i would appreciate it and have it added in my todo | 04:57 |
| ryan_rousseau | how do I add to your todo? | 04:58 |
| jsgotangco | err i mean i will add it myself in my emacs-planner heh | 04:58 |
| jsgotangco | sorry for that | 04:58 |
| ryan_rousseau | ah ok | 04:59 |
| ogra | fly to asia and bring a pencil :P | 04:59 |
| ryan_rousseau | haha | 04:59 |
| ryan_rousseau | I'm currently drafting a detailed spec for each app | 04:59 |
| ryan_rousseau | wiki.edubuntu.org/Amenity | 04:59 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: will these lang uploads fit? | 04:59 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, according to pitti they will | 05:00 |
| jsgotangco | ok | 05:00 |
| ogra | i'm scared myself, belive me :) | 05:00 |
| jsgotangco | i saw -zh | 05:00 |
| ryan_rousseau | jsgotangco, wiki.edubuntu.org/Pike is still under heavy drafting | 05:00 |
| jsgotangco | *shudder* | 05:00 |
| ogra | he just worked down the list | 05:00 |
| jsgotangco | ryan_rousseau: thanks | 05:01 |
| ryan_rousseau | jsgotangco, thank you | 05:01 |
| ogra | to sad the shipit CD will only have english | 05:01 |
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| jryer | Where can I find educational software for edubuntu in Spanish? | 05:06 |
| jsgotangco | jryer: it usually depends on the apps if they have spanish stranslations | 05:07 |
| jryer | Is there an ISO CD with Spanish software? | 05:08 |
| mhz | jryer: hi | 05:09 |
| mhz | jryer: not yet | 05:09 |
| mhz | jryer: most applications have spanish as a translated set | 05:09 |
| mhz | you can get it in spanish once your environment is set to it | 05:09 |
| mhz | jryer: anything in particular you are lookin for? | 05:10 |
| ogra | jryer, depends, the dapper liveCD (with installer) has full support for spanish, but it only installs the workstation version | 05:10 |
| jryer | We are teaching adolocentes 15-20 yrs old...just wanted to look around or download an entire CD | 05:11 |
| mhz | jryer: and when installing edubuntu-install iso, then you can immediately set your env. for spanish and get lang. support from internet | 05:11 |
| mhz | jryer: soy de chile, y tu? | 05:12 |
| ogra | jryer, the install CD only has space for english, so if you dont want the ltsp server we install from the install CD then the liveCD should be fine for you | 05:12 |
| jryer | mhz, That is another problem...we don't have internet in the labs. Soy de ee.uu. pero trabajo aca en la paz con adolocentes en el alto | 05:12 |
| mhz | save children? | 05:12 |
| jryer | Yes, Save the Children | 05:13 |
| mhz | jryer: i just replied an email to seth :D | 05:13 |
| ogra | jryer, do you have the opportunity to diownload and use a DVD ? the DVD has all langpacks as well as the live and the install isos on it | 05:14 |
| mhz | jryer: after dapper release, i suppose I'll get some funds to work on the customization for a Edubuntu version for older hardware. this will be in spanish and have xubuntu as default and gnome as option :D | 05:15 |
| mhz | jryer: this will focous on latinamerican needs | 05:15 |
| jsgotangco | brb | 05:15 |
| jryer | It looks like the edubuntu site is down because we cannot download anything. Another obstacle is that the computers in the labs do not have DVD functinality | 05:15 |
| ogra | thats what i was suspecting :/ | 05:16 |
| mhz | ogra: else, I may find some ways to send you a DVD so you get all at once, in the meantime. | 05:16 |
| mhz | ogra sorry | 05:16 |
| ogra | heh | 05:16 |
| mhz | jryer: else, I may find some ways to send you a DVD so you get all at once, in the meantime. | 05:16 |
| ogra | but i'd take a DVD if you'd send me one ;) | 05:16 |
| mhz | lol | 05:16 |
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| ogra | mhz, if he has no reader that wont help | 05:17 |
| ajayc | ahh i see a op | 05:17 |
| mhz | ogra: sure! you'll get a t-shirt from our proj. at least!! | 05:17 |
| ajayc | i worte a mail to some ubuntu official | 05:17 |
| ogra | ajayc, about what ? | 05:17 |
| ajayc | that there were no op here | 05:17 |
| ogra | we dont want to use ops here | 05:17 |
| ajayc | :D | 05:17 |
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| ajayc | highvoltage, hi | 05:18 |
| === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage | ||
| highvoltage | hi ajayc | 05:18 |
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| ogra | ajayc, as in all ubuntu channels we dont want ops constantly but we have a list of people that can op if needed (for emergency) | 05:18 |
| mhz | jryer: hmmm, if seth comes to chile for june 20th, I will provide cd's in spanish for him :D | 05:18 |
| ajayc | ok ogra | 05:18 |
| ogra | i think i explained it to you before :) | 05:19 |
| highvoltage | ajayc: i think i received a mail from you. sorry if i haven't responded yet. | 05:19 |
| jryer | mhz, if we could get a copy of DVD that would be great but if we could get CD with Spanish support, even better. We want to do a network install but not sure how it will work because of broken links to instructions. Will figure what we can do in the meantime | 05:19 |
| ajayc | what was that? | 05:19 |
| highvoltage | ajayc: ogra, JaneW and I (and some others) can get opps whenever we want | 05:19 |
| ajayc | who made u op? | 05:19 |
| highvoltage | chanserv | 05:19 |
| ogra | ajayc, the freenode staff and chanserv | 05:20 |
| ajayc | oh cool | 05:20 |
| jryer | mhz, we are talking about taking our team of 3-4 to chile because june 20th just happens to be during our one-week break... Seth will keep you updated. | 05:20 |
| mhz | jryer: hmmm, my only prob. before june 20 th is lack of time and too much stuff to prepare for the event. I doubt I can customize a solution before june 20th. :( but... let me think of ways. | 05:20 |
| JaneW | and op obsession is so last millenium! | 05:21 |
| JaneW | (I am not actually here...) | 05:21 |
| ogra | hey JaneW :) | 05:21 |
| JaneW | hey ogra | 05:21 |
| mhz | jryer: that would be awsome!! | 05:21 |
| jryer | mhz, no problem...we are just using Windows in the meantime. | 05:21 |
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| === JaneW is going to kata box in a minute | ||
| JaneW | heh yay | 05:21 |
| mhz | jryer: then "yes,, problem" :D | 05:21 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: I am coming in on wednesday | 05:21 |
| JaneW | would have been there today but my car is STILL not fixed properly | 05:22 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: great. are you coming in for the farewell? | 05:22 |
| JaneW | the autoelectrician broke it | 05:22 |
| mhz | JaneW: highvoltage has got a car | 05:22 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: farewell? | 05:22 |
| JaneW | mhz: he lives on the other side of the world from me | 05:22 |
| cbx33 | hey JaneW | 05:22 |
| mhz | farewell...that soon??? | 05:22 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: we're having a farewell for all the people who's leaving TSF | 05:22 |
| JaneW | hey cbx33 | 05:22 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: oh! | 05:22 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: cool, well then I should be there | 05:22 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: what time? | 05:23 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: an e-mail was sent to 12plein, didn't you get it? | 05:23 |
| JaneW | late? | 05:23 |
| JaneW | oh I haven;t checked that folder today... | 05:23 |
| jryer | mhz, gotta run, we are preparing for classes tomorrow. Appreciate the help and look fwd to hearing more about what you are doing in chile! | 05:23 |
| JaneW | have to scroll up to see it | 05:23 |
| ryan_rousseau | I'm guessing that Ubuntu's openssl package doesn't have RC5 or IDEA compiled since they're copyrighted? | 05:23 |
| ogra | highvoltage, bah, and i cant attend | 05:23 |
| JaneW | oh yay, not late, cos I can;t stay into evening, my Dad will be in town | 05:23 |
| mhz | jryer: okis, thx, good luck | 05:23 |
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| JaneW | highvoltage: well I guess I can break my news there | 05:24 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: it's at 12:30 | 05:24 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: SUSHI! *Y*U*M* | 05:24 |
| mhz | highvoltage: UTC? | 05:24 |
| mhz | :D | 05:24 |
| JaneW | 10:30 UTC | 05:24 |
| mhz | highvoltage: streaming! streaming! | 05:24 |
| JaneW | bye homies, it's time to sweat. | 05:25 |
| highvoltage | mhz: heh. our bandwidth here will never survive it! | 05:25 |
| mhz | :( | 05:25 |
| highvoltage | yeah | 05:25 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: seen my blog. I have one of Madonna's bras! | 05:26 |
| highvoltage | bye homies, i need to go home too. getting late :) | 05:26 |
| JaneW | from an auction | 05:26 |
| JaneW | heh | 05:26 |
| JaneW | bye | 05:26 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: heh, i'll look later tonight (not sure if i want to though) | 05:26 |
| highvoltage | bye! | 05:26 |
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| spacey | bleh, switch user doesn't work with LTSP | 05:47 |
| spacey | and still got that Sleep option in the logout window as well :o | 05:47 |
| mhz | spacey: what you mean? | 05:47 |
| spacey | if you use LTSP 4.2 on dapper :) | 05:47 |
| ogra | spacey, in gnome ? | 05:47 |
| ogra | ahh | 05:47 |
| spacey | yeah | 05:47 |
| ogra | *phew* | 05:47 |
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| spacey | especially that sleep button is quite nasty :) | 05:47 |
| ogra | please avoid such statements until thursdaya if you dont want me to have a heart attack ! | 05:48 |
| spacey | ogra: sorry :D | 05:48 |
| mhz | lol | 05:48 |
| ogra | spacey, gnome-session saks gdm if a user is logged in locally or not | 05:48 |
| ogra | seems thats a gdm bug | 05:48 |
| ogra | *asks | 05:48 |
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| ogra | thats why we dont have to care about it with ldm ;) it simply doesnt answer such requests | 05:49 |
| spacey | i think its in lunchpad somewhere | 05:49 |
| spacey | more people encountered it | 05:49 |
| ogra | mhz, "normal" ltsp == ubuntu ltsp in this channel | 05:49 |
| ogra | ;) | 05:49 |
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| mhz | ogra: :D | 05:49 |
| mhz | yeah | 05:50 |
| spacey | muecow (crappy name btw) | 05:50 |
| ogra | ask jammcq to change it :) | 05:50 |
| ogra | not an ubuntu creation | 05:50 |
| spacey | maybe you should call it utsp or something, to avoid confusion, but it might increase confusion as well ;) | 05:51 |
| spacey | ubuntu terminal server power | 05:51 |
| ogra | heh | 05:51 |
| ogra | i'll just ask jammcq to stop providing an ubuntu version of ltsp.org :P | 05:52 |
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| === pygi spreads a rumour about Student control panel not working at all | ||
| ogra | pygi, ! | 05:53 |
| pygi | ogra, yes? :) | 05:54 |
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| ogra | stop spreading rumors that may kill me | 05:54 |
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| ogra | :) | 05:54 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 05:54 |
| spacey | hehe | 05:57 |
| spacey | ogra: that would be evil :p in some cases "classic" LTSP is more desirable :) | 05:57 |
| spacey | but i think they should put up some big note on their ubuntu page, that the ubuntu ltsp is set up differently | 05:58 |
| ogra | spacey, just joking... | 05:58 |
| mhz | pygi: what student control panel? | 05:58 |
| spacey | *pwef* :P | 05:58 |
| ogra | (i have to give back some of the evilness i experience here ;) ) | 05:58 |
| spacey | hehe :D | 05:58 |
| pygi | mhz, the one we ship in universe? | 05:59 |
| ogra | mhz, sudo apt-get install student-control-panel | 05:59 |
| mhz | duh! /me had no idea | 05:59 |
| spacey | i should test that, didn't know it was already there | 05:59 |
| === mhz slaps once again | ||
| === pygi hopes to have a rocking version ready for edgy | ||
| spacey | this one doesn't rock? | 05:59 |
| pygi | spacey, it does, but the next version will rock even more ;) | 06:00 |
| pygi | (at least I hope so) | 06:00 |
| spacey | ah :p | 06:00 |
| ogra | it doesnt *rock* it does only some basics | 06:00 |
| spacey | i guess it doesn't work with classic ltsp? ;) | 06:00 |
| ogra | and its only for ubuntu ltsp | 06:00 |
| ogra | since its written for ssh based connections | 06:01 |
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| jsgotangco | arggh i knew eating that chocolate bar was a bad idea | 06:08 |
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| cbx33 | hey highvoltage | 06:30 |
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| mhz | re | 06:32 |
| mhz | ogra: any url where I can get more info related to student-control-panel? | 06:34 |
| mhz | cache show provides bare minimum | 06:34 |
| ogra | install it and test it ;) | 06:35 |
| mhz | ogra: done it | 06:35 |
| ogra | mhz, TeschersPet has the list of suggestions etc | 06:35 |
| mhz | but I have no clients to boot from right now :) | 06:35 |
| mhz | oooh, okis | 06:35 |
| ogra | but its not specific to s-c-p | 06:35 |
| ogra | i.e. there is no further info about it on that page | 06:36 |
| ogra | only a collection of possible ideas | 06:36 |
| mhz | ogra: anyways, in the meantime, it start :) and gives me a couple of lines of error which I suppose are generated because no clients are found | 06:36 |
| ogra | might be, i dont have the time to look at it now | 06:37 |
| mhz | no worries | 06:37 |
| mhz | I understand | 06:37 |
| ogra | (and its unlikely i'll have any time until thursday) | 06:37 |
| mhz | just wanted to tell you "good idea and I guess it will work just fine" | 06:38 |
| highvoltage | hey cbx33 | 06:38 |
| highvoltage | ogra: have you experienced any weirdness with the edubuntu gtk theme? i see red spots over my buttone now and again. it looks sick :) | 06:39 |
| cbx33 | highvoltage, I've experienced that too | 06:40 |
| cbx33 | thought it was just my rubbish graphics card | 06:40 |
| cbx33 | and over scrollbars too? | 06:40 |
| cbx33 | but from my experience it's ubuntu toio | 06:41 |
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| highvoltage | cbx33: i haven't seen it on the scrollbars yet | 06:41 |
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| mhz | highvoltage: i have not had such issue in GNOME nor in XFCE | 06:43 |
| mhz | cbx33: what is you email address (to send my 2 questions regarding ESA) unless we use IRC? | 06:44 |
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| cbx33 | petesavage@ubuntu.com | 06:45 |
| cbx33 | mhz, I will most likely be here a little later on | 06:45 |
| cbx33 | want to work on th wiki some more | 06:45 |
| mhz | cbx33: so, what you prefer? | 06:45 |
| cbx33 | email them | 06:45 |
| mhz | okis | 06:45 |
| cbx33 | and we can discuss later if I'm there | 06:45 |
| mhz | sure | 06:46 |
| cbx33 | if not I'll reply | 06:46 |
| cbx33 | I'm also hoping to get gisomount to a beta state today | 06:47 |
| yurtboy | questions about the launchpad cookbook link | 06:47 |
| yurtboy | when someone gets a chance | 06:47 |
| cbx33 | shoot | 06:47 |
| yurtboy | thanks | 06:48 |
| yurtboy | this link | 06:48 |
| yurtboy | https://launchpad.net/products/edubuntu.cookbook | 06:48 |
| yurtboy | sorry this link | 06:48 |
| yurtboy | https://launchpad.net/products/edubuntu.cookbook/pre-alpha | 06:48 |
| yurtboy | points left to the cookbook Home | 06:48 |
| yurtboy | but the link is on the right | 06:49 |
| yurtboy | I think | 06:49 |
| yurtboy | anyways being an enduser | 06:49 |
| yurtboy | it was a bit odd | 06:49 |
| cbx33 | I'll pass that onto to the cookbook peeps | 06:49 |
| cbx33 | thanks yurtboy | 06:49 |
| yurtboy | sure hope to be more help soon | 06:50 |
| yurtboy | hey has anyone (yes ogra I asked this before ( -: ) Had luck with local devices? I am going to try fuse | 06:50 |
| yurtboy | just wondering | 06:50 |
| cbx33 | whois AliasVegas | 06:52 |
| pygi | cbx33, what ahppened with cookbook? | 06:52 |
| cbx33 | ^^^^ about the link | 06:53 |
| cbx33 | I havn't had time to investigate | 06:53 |
| cbx33 | gotta cook dinner :p | 06:53 |
| cbx33 | bbl | 06:53 |
| pygi | I dont know what all those links in launchpad are | 06:53 |
| pygi | no meanings | 06:53 |
| cbx33 | ah | 06:53 |
| pygi | k, bon apetit | 06:53 |
| pygi | none of this links are relevant | 06:53 |
| ogra | pygi, can you fix that then ? | 06:54 |
| ogra | (since you took over the cookbook) | 06:54 |
| pygi | ogra, how? I have no powers over other's people products, teams, etc | 06:54 |
| ogra | you should have the administration rights for it, its the core part of cookbooks inclusion in the distro | 06:55 |
| ogra | the LP links need to be ok (especially the bzr ones) to build the package in edgy) | 06:55 |
| highvoltage | i think we need to ask launchpad administrators to give the rights to pygi | 06:55 |
| pygi | highvoltage, there are a lot of teams and products related to cookbook :-/ | 06:56 |
| ogra | just talk to the admins that are there now for the cookbook | 06:56 |
| pygi | None are good :-/ | 06:56 |
| mhz | cbx33: nock nock...."follow the white rabbit" | 06:56 |
| ogra | please contact the owner of that page to get it transferred | 06:56 |
| pygi | ogra, ergh, all of them? (considering there is a lot of them :-/ ) | 06:57 |
| highvoltage | pygi: i would talk to the people who currently own them, and delete all the old groups one by one, and make a new one | 06:57 |
| ogra | sure | 06:57 |
| pygi | highvoltage, indeed | 06:57 |
| ogra | at least weed out th eold cruft | 06:57 |
| pygi | can products ownership be tranfered tho? | 06:57 |
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| ogra | the LP page is (from a dev POV) the most immportant part | 06:58 |
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| pygi | ogra, indeed | 06:58 |
| pygi | but I am not sure can product be tranfered to other owner | 06:58 |
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| ogra | and if the supermirror is up in edgy, there needs to be a valid bzr source where it can pull from | 06:59 |
| mhz | cbx33: BTW, is ESA supposed to be UsingEdubunt? or they are 2 diff things? | 06:59 |
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| pygi | highvoltage, could you please ask in #launchpad can they delete they product? | 06:59 |
| ogra | mhz, ESA builds rockets and UsingEdubuntu is a helpfile :) so yes, they are different ;) | 06:59 |
| pygi | I'll ask in the team to put me as owner | 07:00 |
| mhz | ogra: now I got the idea then | 07:00 |
| mhz | thx | 07:00 |
| ogra | ;) | 07:00 |
| yurtboy | just to be clear about my cookbook comment this link https://launchpad.net/products/edubuntu.cookbook/pre-alpha pulls up a page that then sais "For a look at the current cookbook, click on the link to the home page in the LEFTmenu." But that was hard to find and I clicked "Product: Edubuntu Cookbook" on the RIGHT that seemed to work | 07:00 |
| pygi | yurtboy, that page is supposed to be erased | 07:00 |
| yurtboy | okay | 07:00 |
| mhz | highvoltage: good to talk about translations now? | 07:01 |
| ogra | yurtboy, the cookbook is gone through several hands, so the LP entry is a bit messy | 07:01 |
| highvoltage | pygi: sure, ok if it happens tomorrow? | 07:01 |
| highvoltage | mhz: sure | 07:01 |
| pygi | highvoltage, ofcourse | 07:01 |
| pygi | highvoltage, thanks :) | 07:01 |
| highvoltage | mhz: Bluekuja is also busy with spanish translation | 07:01 |
| ogra | highvoltage, as long as it happens at all it can even happen next month ;) | 07:01 |
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| pygi | ogra, finally we'll have cookbook for this release | 07:01 |
| highvoltage | pygi: i'll add it to my ever growing evolution todo list ;) | 07:01 |
| mhz | highvoltage: okis, I have asked this in the ML and also got some suggestions here but I have still not a clear wise idea | 07:01 |
| ogra | pygi, yep :) | 07:01 |
| highvoltage | ogra: heh | 07:01 |
| pygi | highvoltage, thanks :) | 07:01 |
| pygi | ogra, I am just sorry you didnt had time for LTSP part, but there is always "tommorow" :) | 07:02 |
| ogra | highvoltage, if the LP admins cause probs feel free to point them to me | 07:02 |
| mhz | highvoltage: there is the Edubuntu wiki info (helpful pages) + the drupal. | 07:02 |
| pygi | hehe, ogra is powerful :) | 07:02 |
| highvoltage | ogra: heh. ok. i've discovered a while back that it helps to be good friends with them ;) | 07:02 |
| ogra | pygi, nah, but i can talk to my colleagues ;) | 07:02 |
| mhz | highvoltage: So far, I have some translations in Tecnocimiento's page and others in Ubuntu-cl.org wiki | 07:03 |
| pygi | ogra, I know, was joking :) | 07:03 |
| highvoltage | mhz: yes, i've though of having an it.edubuntu.org, and es.edubuntu.org | 07:03 |
| mhz | highvoltage: and a couple in wiki.edubuntu.org/TheEnglishPage/es | 07:03 |
| highvoltage | mhz: both with complete drupal copies, with translated content | 07:03 |
| ogra | highvoltage, uuh 47336 is weird | 07:04 |
| mhz | highvoltage: okis, that would solve/answer my questions for drupal. Any thoughts about wiki ones? | 07:04 |
| pygi | damn, I cant seem to find his mail | 07:05 |
| pygi | guess I'll have to catch him on jabber | 07:05 |
| highvoltage | mhz: i suppose they'll move along to the new wiki. how that will work, i'm not entirely sure. i think the docteam vision will clear up a bit when it actualy happens :) | 07:05 |
| pygi | ergh, there is mail :-/ | 07:05 |
| highvoltage | ogra: it is weird, isn't it? it doesn't happen when i select any other gtk theme though. | 07:05 |
| mhz | highvoltage: hmmm, lost me | 07:05 |
| ogra | highvoltage, do you have an ubuntu handy to compare ? | 07:06 |
| highvoltage | mhz: docteam is moving all the documentation to a new wiki. so all docs will be on the doc wiki, and the current wiki will be used for everything else except docs. | 07:06 |
| ogra | its the same engine ubuntu uses | 07:06 |
| mhz | highvoltage: ahhhhh, finally! | 07:06 |
| highvoltage | ogra: nope :( i only have xubuntu and edubuntu | 07:06 |
| mhz | highvoltage: any date for that? (yeah, of course I can ask in -doc :D) | 07:07 |
| ogra | well, to late to fix anyway | 07:07 |
| ogra | the archive is pretty much locked | 07:07 |
| pygi | highvoltage, k, mail about taking over the team - done | 07:07 |
| pygi | let's hope he won't resist :) | 07:07 |
| ogra | pygi, who owns it ? jelkner ? kjcole ? | 07:08 |
| pygi | kjcole | 07:08 |
| ogra | he wont object | 07:08 |
| highvoltage | mhz: i have no idea. i don't know if they have a date yet. might be best to ask in -doc yes | 07:08 |
| highvoltage | pygi: resitance is futile! | 07:08 |
| pygi | highvoltage, indeed :P | 07:08 |
| pygi | ogra, will we be able to package the cookbook after dapper, and put in -updates? | 07:08 |
| ogra | probably | 07:09 |
| pygi | nice :) | 07:09 |
| pygi | ok, I'll just stop now, I know you are busy with preparing release | 07:09 |
| ogra | in fact i'm currently twiddling thumbs ... archive is locked and CD builds wont start before the last package is built | 07:10 |
| yurtboy | where is a good place to ask ltsp (edubuntu) questions like hardware and other settings, I know the k12ltsp/ltsp wiki is good but some time it is not so debian ubuntu friendly | 07:10 |
| ogra | but i have to pick up something 150km away, so i'll be out for ~2h soon | 07:10 |
| ogra | yurtboy, here is the place :) | 07:10 |
| pygi | yurtboy, and soon (perhaps) the Edubuntu cookbook is the place :P | 07:11 |
| yurtboy | thanks, is sata better then say an older scsi disk? For example a scsi with | 07:11 |
| yurtboy | 80 - 160 mbs data transfer | 07:11 |
| pygi | Scsi is better | 07:11 |
| pygi | It's not all about data tranfer | 07:11 |
| pygi | transfer* | 07:12 |
| ogra | SATA is cheaper :) | 07:12 |
| yurtboy | used scsi is not bad | 07:12 |
| pygi | ogra, o joy :P | 07:12 |
| ogra | but there are still a lot SATA controllers not supported | 07:12 |
| yurtboy | got a 18 gig for $35 | 07:12 |
| yurtboy | speeds okay | 07:12 |
| pygi | highvoltage, wanna approve me in edubuntu-doc team? | 07:12 |
| pygi | (If I am good enough, ofcourse :P) | 07:13 |
| highvoltage | pygi: sure | 07:13 |
| highvoltage | yurtboy: sata is better these days, imho | 07:13 |
| highvoltage | yurtboy: since they're cheaper, so you just buy more and stripe them | 07:13 |
| pygi | highvoltage, thanks | 07:13 |
| yurtboy | does it still lag like ide in handling numerous read writes???? | 07:14 |
| highvoltage | yurtboy: your stripe them over two disks and then add another double size one (or two of the same size) and mirror it over | 07:14 |
| yurtboy | can i boot off that | 07:14 |
| highvoltage | with linux yes, i don't know about other operating systems | 07:15 |
| yurtboy | what other | 07:15 |
| yurtboy | ( -: | 07:15 |
| highvoltage | yurtboy: i'm not sure about your lag question, but yes, it does get laggy with lots of read/writes, especially when 20 users open openoffice.org at the same time | 07:15 |
| highvoltage | yurtboy: you then run out of disk bandwidth quickly :) | 07:16 |
| lucasvo | lucasvo@supernova:~/Desktop$ bzr branch sftp://lucas@wservices.ch/home/lucas/mercury_newsletter mercury | 07:16 |
| lucasvo | bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: /home/lucasvo/Desktop/sftp:/lucas@wservices.ch/home/lucas/mercury_newsletter/ | 07:16 |
| lucasvo | lucasvo@supernova:~/Desktop$ | 07:16 |
| lucasvo | what's the correct URL? | 07:17 |
| yurtboy | alright, I need to research this since I am upgrading a library install to 10 machines. Right now I am using Fedora/LTSP but when the time comes to update I will use Edu, though I need to get local devices working which I am about to work on. | 07:17 |
| mhz | highvoltage: then, mdke suggests I keep trasnlated wiki pages under ubuntu-cl.org. I hope users get there. So, for every english pageI translate into spanish, I'll add a link to ubuntu-cl | 07:19 |
| highvoltage | mhz: i know you like moin a lot, we can keep the spanish edubuntu site in a moin wiki too if you want, but it might not be very consistant | 07:21 |
| lucasvo | highvoltage: what's the ubuntu wiki running? | 07:22 |
| highvoltage | lucasvo: moinmoin | 07:23 |
| ogra | moin | 07:23 |
| ogra | and moin :) | 07:23 |
| highvoltage | :) | 07:23 |
| lucasvo | and afterwards? | 07:23 |
| highvoltage | moinmoin still | 07:23 |
| highvoltage | the documentation pages will just live on its own moinmoin wiki | 07:24 |
| lucasvo | oh, ok | 07:24 |
| lucasvo | why moin and not mediawiki, btw? | 07:24 |
| mhz | highvoltage: hmmm, well, I never thought of this before, but it's the first time I realize I have some conflicts of interest :D For one, I want translations to be noticed and avaliable for edubuntu visitors. But also, I want to encourage the sleeping Chilean community who usually participate only via Forums. | 07:24 |
| ogra | lucasvo, because php security is hell :) | 07:24 |
| highvoltage | lucasvo: i don't think that any ubuntu stuff will ever be ran on a mediawiki ;) | 07:24 |
| mhz | highvoltage: ohh, and finally, of course, if Chilean community does not rise in other ways, then I'd like chilean people to see Tecnocimiento's efforts to spread this. | 07:25 |
| highvoltage | mhz: i think that having it in drupal would be best. then we can have the same theme, same look and feel, and give the same functionality for users of all languages | 07:25 |
| highvoltage | mhz: what do you mean? | 07:26 |
| mhz | lucasvo: and that is due to the fact moin does not need PHP, iirc. | 07:26 |
| lucasvo | ogra: what's the correct syntax for bzr branch? bzr branch sftp://user@sourcehost/path/to/branch destination ? | 07:26 |
| ogra | branch is a command you only use locally | 07:26 |
| ogra | you want bzr get | 07:26 |
| lucasvo | ogra: was it always like this? | 07:26 |
| ogra | yes | 07:26 |
| ogra | and if you used get and have the repo locally, you only use bzr pull to update | 07:27 |
| mhz | highvoltage: oh, there are 2 things. Drupal contents I translate must be kept in drupal sure! Wiki Edubuntu pages (there's a list of suggested pages, iirc) I translate.. those are the ones I am asking about now ;) | 07:27 |
| lucasvo | lucasvo@supernova:~/Desktop$ bzr get sftp://lucas@wservices.ch/home/lucas/mercury_newsletter mercury | 07:27 |
| ogra | back in 2h | 07:27 |
| lucasvo | bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: /home/lucasvo/Desktop/sftp:/lucas@wservices.ch/home/lucas/mercury_newsletter/ | 07:27 |
| lucasvo | ogra: ?? | 07:28 |
| ogra | lucasvo, #bzr, i'm a bit in a hurry | 07:28 |
| lucasvo | ogra: | 07:29 |
| lucasvo | oh sorry | 07:29 |
| ogra | or ask in 2.5h | 07:29 |
| lucasvo | :) | 07:29 |
| mhz | highvoltage: oh, one other thing regarding drupal site, "Related Projects" menu should have Xubuntu too, or not? | 07:29 |
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| Burgwork | mhz, no, because Xubuntu is not yet an official project | 07:30 |
| mhz | oooh, i see, Burgwork thx. | 07:30 |
| highvoltage | mhz: ogra is asking silbs about that today | 07:31 |
| highvoltage | ogra: did you get a chance to go through our questions with silbs? | 07:31 |
| mhz | highvoltage: BTW, is silbs the one to email for 'special amount of cd shipping' ? | 07:31 |
| highvoltage | mhz: it might be her. would make sense. | 07:32 |
| cbx33 | I'm here now people | 07:32 |
| Burgwork | highvoltage, isn't maralize doing that? | 07:32 |
| mhz | and one last thing before I get some food.. highvoltage, any news about artwork for edubuntu cd's? | 07:32 |
| highvoltage | Burgwork: she handles the cd distribution, but i'm not sure that she can authorise large cd orders | 07:33 |
| cbx33 | mhz, you gonna be back? | 07:33 |
| mhz | Burgwork: hmm, could you provide me with email addresses for both of them? | 07:33 |
| highvoltage | mhz: i think JaneW is best to ask about that. i don't know antying about the edubuntu cd artwork, or even if it exists yet | 07:33 |
| mhz | cbx33: I'll be here for at least next 10 minutes but I just run out of questions for highvoltage (for now) :D | 07:34 |
| mhz | run =ran | 07:34 |
| mhz | hmmm, JaneW wont be here until wed, maybe. :( | 07:34 |
| cbx33 | ok | 07:39 |
| cbx33 | I'm just about to check my mail | 07:39 |
| cbx33 | mhz, did you send that email? | 07:40 |
| mhz | yup | 07:40 |
| cbx33 | i got it | 07:42 |
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| cbx33 | ok mhz, I see your point | 07:43 |
| yurtboy | Request: The lts.conf help page could use some examples? This link has some http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf I could enter them in? | 07:44 |
| mhz | cbx33: I am pulled out of the computer now... gotta get some food :( | 07:44 |
| cbx33 | we decided that seeing as the document was going to be printed | 07:44 |
| mhz | cbx33: I'll be back in 40 mins | 07:44 |
| cbx33 | ok mhz speak to you later | 07:44 |
| cbx33 | eeeeeeeeeeeeek | 07:44 |
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| cbx33 | my bridge heatsink fell off | 07:44 |
| cbx33 | that's not good | 07:44 |
| cbx33 | could explain why it keeps crashing | 07:45 |
| cbx33 | :( | 07:45 |
| cbx33 | now do i do this now, or later :S | 07:45 |
| cbx33 | think i may leave it till tomorrow | 07:45 |
| cbx33 | ping LaserJock | 07:46 |
| cbx33 | hiya | 07:46 |
| cbx33 | ogra, how do i get the label of a cd from ths iso? | 07:52 |
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| mhz | cbx33: re | 08:36 |
| === mhz had no time for a relaxing coffee (espresso would be nice) | ||
| cbx33 | hey mhz | 08:38 |
| === lucasvo is bored writing documentation | ||
| mhz | cbx33: last thing i got from you was "I see your point" | 08:39 |
| cbx33 | ok | 08:39 |
| cbx33 | with regards to the ESA | 08:39 |
| cbx33 | we decided that the information in the wiki version | 08:39 |
| cbx33 | was too long winded to end up in the printed pamphlet, which is what ESA is going to become | 08:40 |
| mhz | i see. | 08:40 |
| mhz | so? | 08:40 |
| cbx33 | so | 08:42 |
| cbx33 | I think that perhaps we could have some more updated information | 08:42 |
| cbx33 | on the website | 08:42 |
| cbx33 | and say in the pamphlet that you can view this online | 08:42 |
| cbx33 | what do you think | 08:42 |
| mhz | ogra: last time I asked about this, I recall you mentioned something like management was not entirely open to hear from edubuntu? If I am correct, then who should I personally email asking for Edubuntu status? (so they can't say "ogra is bugging about it again ; ) ) | 08:42 |
| mhz | ogra: I mean about Edubuntu artwork stuff | 08:43 |
| mhz | cbx33: yeah! | 08:43 |
| mhz | cbx33: but should ESA (the pamphlet) be for Edubuntu general stuff or Dapper specific? | 08:44 |
| cbx33 | ok great | 08:44 |
| cbx33 | it's more edubuntu general | 08:44 |
| cbx33 | at least that's how i wrote it | 08:44 |
| cbx33 | ogra, when will those iso you want testing be ready? | 08:45 |
| mhz | cbx33: and do you agree with my 2 cents regarding 'Using Edubuntu' page? | 08:46 |
| cbx33 | yes sounds good | 08:47 |
| cbx33 | mhz, howz the spam killing going :D | 08:48 |
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| mhz | cbx33: well, I had almost no web connection during weekend and today I am still answering about 80 emails before I can get to kill more spam :) | 08:53 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 08:53 |
| cbx33 | I was just messing | 08:53 |
| mhz | cbx33: If I were a programmer I'd definately do something like a "shoot'em-all-spams" | 08:53 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 08:54 |
| === mhz can't understand why people insist on spamming | ||
| cbx33 | no | 08:55 |
| cbx33 | its is wholly stupid | 08:55 |
| mhz | indeed | 08:55 |
| mhz | it benefits no onw | 08:55 |
| mhz | s/w/e | 08:55 |
| lucasvo | no, it's not, because people buy it | 08:55 |
| mhz | do they???????/ | 08:55 |
| lucasvo | mhz: why would the spammer send spam if they weren't selling anything? | 08:56 |
| mhz | lucasvo: will you buy viagra? :D | 08:56 |
| lucasvo | mhz: not me | 08:56 |
| lucasvo | but a lot of other people do | 08:56 |
| mhz | hmmm, so it is like subliminal message? | 08:57 |
| lucasvo | translate subliminal | 08:57 |
| mhz | hmmm, eeek, never thought it was not an english word... "a message in between lines" | 08:57 |
| lucasvo | mhz: my mothertounge is not english | 08:58 |
| lucasvo | thank you | 08:58 |
| mhz | like, showing the coca coal logo very quickly, without you conciously noticing it | 08:58 |
| lucasvo | mhz: no, there are people that "dumb" that they visit the website from the spammers and buy it | 08:58 |
| mhz | lucasvo: hehe, neither is mine. As I speak spanish (latin origin) I have found many coincidences with english lang. | 08:59 |
| mhz | lucasvo: oh, then they are potential clicking-danger | 09:00 |
| lucasvo | no, people really want to buy it | 09:00 |
| mhz | eeeek, | 09:00 |
| lucasvo | not me or you | 09:00 |
| lucasvo | but several other | 09:00 |
| lucasvo | and spam is cheep so even if you only convince 0.000002% of the receivers it's still the money worth | 09:01 |
| mhz | interesting, I had never though of this as a 'benefit' for someone | 09:01 |
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| highvoltage | pygi: you have a website / blog? | 09:06 |
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| mhz | JaneW: r u here? | 09:12 |
| highvoltage | i think her telkom connection just died for a moment. | 09:13 |
| mhz | hmm, one question... why our ISO's are called dapper-install instead of edubuntu-dapper-install ? | 09:16 |
| lucasvo | yes, that's annoying | 09:17 |
| lucasvo | best would be | 09:17 |
| lucasvo | edubuntu-dapper-DATE.iso | 09:18 |
| lucasvo | or edubuntu-dapper-flight4.iso | 09:18 |
| lucasvo | mhz: file a bug in LP? | 09:19 |
| mhz | hmmm, it depends... maybe there are some policies why that is the way it is | 09:20 |
| mhz | hence my question | 09:20 |
| mhz | ;) | 09:20 |
| mhz | but, sure. It shold be easier for newcomers. | 09:20 |
| pygi | highvoltage, working on a website, set up a blog without content just yet :) | 09:26 |
| pygi | why do you ask? | 09:27 |
| highvoltage | pygi: i don't know :) | 09:27 |
| pygi | I have a lot of things to write, just no time :) | 09:27 |
| pygi | I'll write some things about SoC and stuff on pygi.wordpress.com unless I get the website up and running | 09:28 |
| highvoltage | pygi: i keep huge archives of useless information in my head. and a field pygi.blog was empty, so i thought i'd ask you | 09:28 |
| highvoltage | cool | 09:28 |
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| highvoltage | k, goodnight! | 09:28 |
| pygi | highvoltage, nice :) | 09:28 |
| pygi | night :) | 09:28 |
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| yurtboy | When someone gets a chance, do I have to install any of the fuse apps on the client via chroot? or all on the server? | 09:35 |
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| mhz | yurtboy: ? | 09:38 |
| yurtboy | yes | 09:38 |
| mhz | edubuntu clients do not even need harddisk because they boot from server, so all app.s are living on the server side | 09:38 |
| yurtboy | I know | 09:39 |
| yurtboy | just in the past | 09:39 |
| yurtboy | ogra has mentioned running chroot /opt/ltsp/init/etc apt-get | 09:39 |
| mhz | hmmm, i dont know why you would need to do so | 09:40 |
| yurtboy | have you set up fuse before? I will look again on the ltsp wiki but just wondering | 09:40 |
| mhz | oh, nope, I had o idea fuse was an app. I thought it was an 'adjective' :D | 09:41 |
| mhz | sorry | 09:41 |
| yurtboy | ( -: | 09:41 |
| yurtboy | fuse may not be the right term | 09:41 |
| mhz | indeed | 09:41 |
| yurtboy | it is for local devices ltspsfd "fuse based remote filesystem daemon for thin-clients" | 09:41 |
| mhz | ooohh | 09:42 |
| mhz | then I have even less idea | 09:42 |
| yurtboy | ( -: | 09:43 |
| cbx33 | local devices isn't supported yet | 09:51 |
| yurtboy | cbx33: so the fuse info on the wiki.ltsp can not work? | 09:53 |
| cbx33 | I've no idea | 09:54 |
| yurtboy | understood | 09:55 |
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| yurtboy | so far I can mount the usb disk on a client via fuse via the terminal of the client | 10:27 |
| cbx33 | yurtboy, good going | 10:53 |
| === mhz needs to see Edubuntu CD artwork :( | ||
| mhz | Kubuntu has them even as a merchandising support http://www.kubuntu.org/ | 11:02 |
| cbx33 | nn all | 11:02 |
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| ogra | mhz, not even i have seen the CD artwork | 11:46 |
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