[12:09] hi pygi [12:09] hey cbx333 [12:09] https://launchpad.net/products/gisomount === cbx333 is now known as cbx33 [12:09] take a look [12:09] thanks to you I got started in python....me and LaserJock are working on it :D [12:09] cbx33, oki, if you say so [12:10] o joy, my fault again :P [12:10] I wanted to thank you for my assignments.... [12:10] they got me started in python [12:10] heh, no need to thank me :) [12:11] of course there is :D [12:11] brb [12:12] cbx33, there is a release already ? :P [12:16] ergh, whats happening with bzr mirroring? :-/ === superseth [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:21] pygi, it's because it's using knits and not weaves apprently [12:21] cbx33, ah [12:21] new vs old format [12:21] they should fix that :P [12:21] apparently they will ina a few days [12:21] knits is significaly faster and smaller [12:22] cbx33, gimme package of gisomount? :) [12:22] I see it's already working :P [12:22] of course [12:23] you just have to create the /media/vcdrom1 - /media/vcdrom5 dirs manually [12:23] cbx33, that no good :) [12:23] it will do that automatically soon [12:23] application has to do it :P [12:23] well, I was thinking it should be done in packaging [12:23] but LaserJock and I are discussing the best way to implement it [12:23] btw. congrats on your first python project :) [12:24] thank you [12:25] cbx33, :) === mjg [n=gehlm@207.250.167.73] has joined #edubuntu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [12:44] hey Amaranth, read the scroll back for ogra and I speaking about your soc project === Amaranth_ [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === mjg [n=gehlm@207.250.167.73] has left #edubuntu [] === stephenwatts [n=steveltu@c-24-1-209-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu [] === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.211.8.204] has joined #edubuntu === SteveCharles [n=steve@ppp-69-223-164-94.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu === SteveCharles [n=steve@ppp-69-223-164-94.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has left #edubuntu [] [02:40] nn #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@201.215.87.19] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu [03:06] Hello === anselmo [n=anselmo@200-232-237-86.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === anselmo [n=anselmol@200-232-237-86.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === anselmo [n=anselmol@200-232-237-86.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === anselmo [n=anselmol@200-232-237-86.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === anselmolsm [n=alsm@200-232-237-86.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === anselmolsm [n=alsm@200-232-237-86.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #edubuntu [] === Varian [n=dakota@71-85-201-44.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === anselmolsm [n=anselmol@200-232-237-86.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@nat-pool-bos.redhat.com] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === phlosten [n=phlosten@CPE-139-168-86-90.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === caravena [n=caravena@100-45-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === jeffwaddell [n=jeff@c-71-197-189-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:56] Hello?? === bit_doidao [n=duda@BHE200139176137.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #edubuntu [05:59] hello all! i have some little child, and would like to create something like a user, with all stuffs that edubuntu provide us. how can i dow it? [05:59] im using ubuntu dapper right know [06:00] just apt-get install edubuntu-desktop? [06:01] I'm not sure, about dapper as I don't have it in front of me, however it seems that you are just asking how to create a user? [06:02] bit_doidao: I believe that should work [06:02] jeffwaddell, not only a user, a user with all the edubuntu artwork, programs etc, so when my child ask me to use the computer, im gonna give him the edubuntu user and password ;) [06:04] bit_doidao...ahh I see. I believe that you will need to do the apt-get mentioned and also create a user... [06:05] yes, im installing anyway. lets see what happens. ill have to create the user and put the artwork and edit the icons, right? [06:07] I don't know if the edubuntu packages give you the option of doing that when creating the user or not... === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [06:08] yeah. im making some contacts, and i am planning to install the edubuntu on a school near my company [06:09] i live in brazil. do you know some tutorials to install edubuntu for this situation? (students will have login and password) [06:11] have you looked at the cookbook yet? [06:13] just going into wikis... [06:17] only have infos about ltsp server [06:21] looks like it's not there or not existing yet...I'll have to look some more.. [06:23] hummm, im gonna study this. this school, near my company, have good hardware, so, ill thiking about a samba controlling the /homes and auth, and a way to create users for basic and advanced, basic will be for very little childs, and advanced for 12+ [06:24] perhaps you could document your process as you go through it so we can see what needs to be clearer [06:25] jeffwaddell, certainly im gonna do that! [06:25] awesome [06:26] tomorrow im gonna contact the lady from this school again and confirm the installation. but first im gonna read some samba tutorials on how to do it, if i have troubles, im going right here :P [06:27] hopefully you will find help here...you are welcome to email me at jefferydouglaswaddell@gmail.com if you need to [06:28] owk, bookmarked! [06:28] you know this stuff about schooltool too? [06:29] ok, i need to go. see you! [06:30] bye [06:32] need to go myself...later === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@242.Red-83-49-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.106.9.231] has joined #edubuntu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === caravena [n=caravena@100-45-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@nat-pool-str.redhat.com] has joined #edubuntu [08:50] omg [08:50] my pc just killed nautilus :( [08:50] it is using too much memory [08:50] something went wrong in last update === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-165-123-111.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu [10:26] where is the edubuntu testing page? === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu [10:27] lucasvo: i think it's https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Testing/CurrentEdubuntu?highlight=%28testing%29 === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@nat-pool-str.redhat.com] has joined #edubuntu [10:37] ty highvoltage === pygi [n=pygi@83.131.232.154] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [10:48] good morning #edubuntu [10:48] good morning cbx33 [10:49] hey highvoltage howz it going [10:49] i think it's going well. === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu [10:50] good good [10:52] you good too? [10:53] hey cbx33, highvoltage === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:53] ah today is a stupid day [10:54] it's rainy [10:54] my backup didn't work [10:54] my system crashed [10:54] ogra: can you take a look at this very wierd comment? http://trends.newsforge.com/comments.pl?sid=56487&cid=127031 [10:54] ogra: the "didn't experience.." one, point 2 and 3 [10:54] yeh I'm really good [10:59] at least the edubuntu install went fine :) [11:04] lucasvo, today is a stupid day here too [11:04] I have to reinstall a windows pc [11:04] blleeughh === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [11:07] I hate doing backups [11:07] I think I'll just buy swiss vault [11:09] lucasvo, whats wrong with backups? :) [11:10] pygi: I always do something wrong [11:10] ping ogra [11:10] lucasvo, you'll have a rocking backup solution (and distaster recovery system) ready for edgy, so why worries :) [11:10] disaster* [11:11] pygi: cool [11:12] lucasvo, that is, I hope at least you'll have it :P === blue-frog [n=james@88.121.96.103] has joined #edubuntu [11:50] lucasvo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Current at the bottom [11:50] http://pastebin.com/744435 [11:51] totem crsheds when I load movies I made with istanbul [11:52] cbx33, pong [11:52] hi ogra [11:52] got time for a python quickie.... [11:52] in your excellent code [11:52] lucasvo, take byzanz, istanbul is known to have issues [11:52] how can i get it so when i try to close the gtk object...ie with destroy.....it pops up a message box first [11:53] and depending on that output it decides whether to destroy it or not [11:53] kinda like a are you sure...yes/no === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [12:09] lol editing a GIF with 1000 frames is fun in gimp [12:09] lucasvo, hehe :) [12:12] yikes :p [12:15] I needed to delete 500frames [12:15] not being able to delete multiple layers in gimp is a little drwawback [12:15] :) [12:17] implement it then :P [12:17] its opensource ;) [12:17] cbx33, call a function that first shows the popup instead of destroy ... [12:25] well, I think it was the work worth === jinty [n=jinty@62-15-158-30.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #edubuntu [12:28] ogra, that's the part I'm having trouble with === FatalCure [n=dave@203.129.54.88] has joined #edubuntu [12:29] in glade, what is the signal for the X button being clicked on. [12:29] i can't use destroy as the handler. [12:30] create a new function and call that from the signal handler [12:30] so like instead of ----- destroy - on_exit [12:31] I would create a new gtk window signal? [12:31] that's the problem i have, the signal that triggers the funtion [12:31] i can write the function no problem, but it's how it's called I'm having trouble with [12:31] all the programs I've seen use the destroy signal [12:32] there seems to be no close button in the gtk window signals list [12:33] brb [12:34] do it in python, not in glade [12:34] (i.e. dont use the glade handler, look at my code (doesnt matter which app) how i use destroy) === sankar [n=sankarsh@nat-pool-str.redhat.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:40] ok [12:40] i tried that...:p - it said there wasn't a close_button property [12:40] but I'll look at it again [12:40] thanx ogra === gwyn [n=gwyn@82.152.193.68] has joined #edubuntu === magnon [n=co@c-a368e353.05-27-6f736c2.cust.bredband.no] has joined #edubuntu === pygi_ [n=pygi@83.131.248.50] has joined #edubuntu === pygi_ is now known as pygi [01:02] w00t I got it ogra [01:10] congrats cbx33 === awdrg321 [n=ohh@IGLD-83-130-66-123.inter.net.il] has joined #edubuntu [01:11] :D [01:12] hi guys, long time since my last visit to any irc channel... [01:12] anyway good work on the edubuntu [01:13] i have 3 problems that you might be able to help... [01:13] awdrg321, shoot [01:14] i burnd a copy to my little brother (10yo) [01:14] so he will get to know linux [01:14] nice [01:14] and he keeps calling me from downsterss [01:15] is there anyway to set the vnc working on default on the liveCD [01:15] like mastering... [01:15] awdrg321, probably yes [01:15] but you'd have to remove some components [01:15] as the cd is pretty cramped === S [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #edubuntu [01:16] the remote desktop is already there its just dont working on startup by default ( for security i guess ) [01:17] yes i would imagine so [01:17] ogra, would know about that one [01:17] so you just want it enabled by default? [01:18] yes [01:18] I'm sure it's possible. I've not remastered an ubuntu based cd [01:18] but I have remastered knoppix... [01:18] there is a howto on the wiki. [01:18] but there may be an easier option, ogra any ideas here? [01:18] awdrg321, what's the next question [01:19] the nest 2... :) [01:19] cbx33, the howto on wiki is outdated [01:19] pygi, is it? [01:19] cbx33, yup [01:19] first i cant seems to upload anything from firefox (webmail and etc') [01:19] pygi, do we have an updated one [01:20] cbx33, no :-/ [01:20] sheesh [01:20] man i need that if devenix is going to go to ubuntu [01:20] awdrg321, hm, slow connection? [01:20] awdrg321, what happens [01:20] no, no... [01:20] proxy issue? [01:21] something very wierd [01:21] ok [01:21] tell us [01:21] cbx33, o joy, we have to fly on blind here :P [01:21] ;) [01:21] awdrg321, its a gconf key, look for /desktop/gnome/remote_access there you can set the defaults for vino (gnomes built in vnc server) [01:21] thanks ogra [01:22] do you have details on howto remaster a dapper live cd? [01:22] i went on adding file in gmail and it just wont upload it... [01:22] thank ogra.... [01:23] awdrg321, that might happen because of number of reasons :-/ [01:23] i know... [01:23] and its frustrating because im new to thius and i cant solve it [01:23] hmmm [01:24] awdrg321, what file type are you trying to upload? [01:24] gmail doesnt allow some filetypes [01:24] i know... so i tried it with a differnt webmail... [01:24] and nothing.... [01:25] BTW it was gif so i dont think thats the problem... [01:25] what connection do you have and what are you trying to upload? [01:25] hmmm...odd [01:25] *filesize* [01:25] cbx33, indeed [01:25] DSL via router [01:25] what about other outbound traffic [01:25] can you ftp? [01:26] didnt try that.... [01:26] but i can go and give it try... [01:27] just a sec [01:30] well.... never mind... its working now... [01:31] the last thing, how can help on translating to hebrew? === cbx33 just found the north bridge heatsink hanging off his computer :/ [01:37] awdrg321, have a look at launchpad.net [01:37] (for translations that is) === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-255-58.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === pygi_ is now known as pygi [01:39] thanks... === S [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz@201.214.84.130] has joined #edubuntu [02:22] cbx33: hi there [02:22] cbx33: r u there? === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [02:25] hi highvoltage === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [02:25] hi juliux [02:26] hi highvoltage [02:26] hi juliux [02:26] hey mon [02:27] highvoltage: IMHO, 'Using Edubuntu' at www.e.o is not as complete as ESA in wiki.e.o [02:27] mhz: cbx33 edited it [02:28] mhz: i haven't compared the two yet, to be honest [02:28] and, I also have mhz AT ubuntu DOT com (so we all look more similar) [02:28] mhz: although, it htink the wiki one is meant to extract from from printed pamphlets, etc [02:28] while the edubuntu.org one is web formatted, from what i understand [02:29] highvoltage: could you change tecnocimiento DOT cl for ubuntu DOT com, please? This way also, people wont be telling "oh, he is promoting tecnocimiento" [02:29] mhz: then they'll say "oh, he is promoting ubuntu"! [02:30] and even if they say you're promoting it? so what? [02:30] where do you want me to change it, btw? [02:30] esa at wiki will be dropped hortly [02:30] shotly [02:30] brb [02:30] highvoltage: okis, I'll pass my observations to cbx33, because the site tells people they can get help in their own language but it does not specify where :) [02:30] hmmm [02:30] mhz mail me please....then ican work on it latre [02:30] cbx33: sur, man, no prob. [02:31] highvoltage: http://www.edubuntu.org/Community [02:31] Spanish: MauricioHernandez mhz@tecnocimiento.cl [02:31] mhz: ok [02:31] highvoltage: thx. [02:32] BTW, did I mention the website looks cool? [02:32] it does! [02:33] heh. thanks. it still needs a lot of work, but i'm also quite satisfied with how far its come. [02:33] mhz: changed [02:34] highvoltage: roger that ;) [02:35] highvoltage: I will translate the whole site content into spanish. Any one else doing it? (know of?) [02:36] highvoltage: and... will drupal let us identify browser lang. settings? === mhz is now known as mhz_breakfast === mhz_breakfast BRB [02:37] mhz_breakfast: will talk to you about that later, i have an idea, but need to run too [02:37] okis [02:37] c ya === SteveCharles [n=steve@ppp-69-223-164-94.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:43] ogra: on the daily build for xubunut, the ltsp chroot fails, i mentioned it in #xubuntu, but they say it's not a critical bug, so i'll just file a bug in launchpad for that so long [02:44] i bet its the same prob we have with expert install [02:44] ill do one during the next tests [02:45] to see where/why its failing [02:47] cool, thanks! :) [02:47] ogra: it's right that i file a bug? or should i leave that to you? [02:48] no, file it please [02:48] also could someone file a bug about the missing cursor theme in edubuntu, so i have something to point mdz at ? [02:48] ok. any logs that i should attach? [02:48] ok, i can do that while i'm there [02:48] /var/log/installer/messages if it contains anything === SteveCharles [n=steve@ppp-69-223-164-94.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has left #edubuntu [] === jinty [n=jinty@62-15-158-30.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #edubuntu [02:59] ogra: what would the package be called for the gnome-cursor-theme? [02:59] edubuntu-artwork [02:59] "missing the cursor theme" or something [02:59] ok === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [03:00] hi guys [03:01] hey jsgAWAY === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Kozuch [n=jan@159.108.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #edubuntu === omega7 [n=omega7@ip68-227-195-134.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:28] i was able to use the netboot directory on the cd to install ubuntu using pxe. is that possible for edubuntu? I have an old laptop without a cdrom drive. [03:29] nope, there is no edubuntu netboot installer [03:29] you can install ubuntu and install the edubuntu metapackages on top (will need some manual work to set up ltsp if you want that) [03:31] alright [03:31] thx [03:31] highvoltage: ping [03:37] jsgotangco, poke :) [03:37] hi [03:38] you have time? [03:38] we need to discuss your students work :) [03:38] spacey: pingback [03:38] pygi: gimme an hour if you could, just finishing up some code (just read JaneW email as well) [03:39] jsgotangco, oki, no problem :) [03:39] highvoltage: how do you link from one page to another within drupal? [03:39] a URL [03:40] whole URL? or relative? [03:40] a relative should work [03:40] i figured drupal had something special like wiki's have [03:40] spacey, will you finish your chapters/articles in like 6 hours, or should I write them? [03:40] well i think the system was configured with modrewerite [03:41] spacey: i link to relative url usually [03:41] pygi: i have no real idea what to write for the remaining chapters [03:42] spacey, ah,ok, I'll write it [03:42] i guess you can scrap the security chapter [03:42] it will be very incomplete in any case [03:43] or too difficult [03:43] spacey, no worries, me and HedgeMage will finish all [03:43] pygi: what would you put int he security chap? [03:44] spacey, I am not sure, but I'll think of something [03:44] tunneling through SSH and such [03:44] pygi: like i said you can also decide to scrap it [03:44] pygi: i don't think thats really useful for setting up edubuntu [03:45] pygi: i can create a spare hour today for the cookbook, if you have some chapters which you would like me to proofread [03:45] spacey, anything you could proofread is fine [03:45] which is up ATM [03:46] ok [03:46] will do [03:52] highvoltage: how did you get rid of that login box? === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has left #edubuntu [] [03:59] spacey: i think it's at the 'blocks' configuration [04:03] re === mhz_breakfast is now known as mhz [04:04] highvoltage: that thing that you have to pass a variable to show it? else i don't know how to login [04:06] highvoltage: r u back? [04:07] spacey: you can also visit login by going to url /user [04:07] mhz: kind of :) [04:07] highvoltage: when would you be? === mhz prefers to wait until more relaxed hour [04:08] mhz: ~in an hour or so, when i leave work. things are a bit hectic at work today [04:09] no worries, highvoltage, my mon. I can wait. Good luck at work stuff. [04:10] ping me when you can talk about translations for edubuntu ;) [04:11] pygi: pong [04:11] jsgotangco, haven't you already done "pong" stuff? :) [04:11] pygi: what are we going to discuss? [04:11] highvoltage: ah thats nice [04:13] jsgotangco, once your student is here, we have to discuss "Pyro" :) [04:14] ahhh [04:36] highvoltage: that's a bug??? === jsgotangco didn't even notice we have a cursor theme [04:36] jsgotangco: yep [04:37] ogra: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/edubuntu-artwork/+bug/47304 [04:37] highvoltage, ah, thatnks i'll add the bug # to DapperReleaseRadar, [04:38] ok [04:38] we wont get it on the CD ... but into -updates [04:38] since nobody noticed or filed it during the CD tests it seems not noticeable enough [04:38] ogra: did the updates used to include fixes like that, or just security fixes? [04:39] -security has the security fixes [04:39] ah, was there an -updates before? [04:39] -updates is for special purpose ... [04:39] yep [04:39] since warty [04:39] nice. will things like firefox 2.0, etc be available in updates once its released? [04:39] nope, never [04:40] hmmm... i didn't no about the -updates... [04:40] only stuff that doesnt require big testing runs or breaqks dependencys [04:40] ok [04:40] ff 2.0 would require to rebuild half the worls [04:40] s/s/d [04:40] what about ff 3.0? :) [04:41] egdy+1 -updates you mean ? [04:41] pygi: ff 3.0 won't be called ff anymore [04:41] ogra: no, i think you understood my question correctly, and answered it too :) [04:41] highvoltage, That dynamite thingy? :) [04:41] pygi: heh [04:42] what? :P === ryan_rousseau [n=rousseau@wsip-70-183-210-68.br.br.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:44] jsgotangco, pygi: hello [04:44] ryan_rousseau, hi [04:45] ryan_rousseau, may you please explain the problem ? :) [04:46] Well, the remote object module I'm using, Pyro, is currently in the universe, and it seems that getting it upgraded to the main repository may be difficult [04:46] well that's what we're about to ask as well [04:46] (actually pygi is more interested on it, i didnt notice it till he pinged me about it) [04:47] ryan_rousseau, just make sure its licensing isnt insane and it doesnt depend on too much stuff, its not hard to get sane stuff to main [04:47] ogra, it's not sane, thats problem :) [04:47] security-wise [04:47] oh [04:47] what is not sane about it ? [04:48] can you be more specific ? [04:48] ryan_rousseau, you have that link? [04:48] http://pyro.sourceforge.net/manual/9-security.html [04:48] sadly we're in the middle of preparing the final dapper isos, so nobody will have much time to talk the next 48h [04:49] it says there's the possibility for security problems, but I don't know of any cases where there have been problems [04:49] supposedly it's being used in a banking system in Spain [04:49] doesnt look worse then the avahi-daemon [04:49] s/then/than/ [04:50] i.e. if yu open a network port to the outside world, thats indeed a *potential* security risk [04:50] but do you need network functionallity for your project at all ? [04:50] yup, he does [04:51] what for ? # [04:51] that was the quizzling thing, right ? [04:51] The plan is for teachers to host the objects on their computer, allowing students to connect to them through Pyro [04:51] right, plus an activity manager [04:52] can you use something like tls with pyro so the traffic gets encrypted ? [04:52] then it wouldnt be a prob [04:52] yes, Pyro has ssl support [04:52] else i'd rather fear the students to hack into the resulst [04:52] (not generally security ) [04:53] how about UserModeLinux? [04:53] right, I was thinking of not storing the answers in the actual object [04:53] thats fine, try to incorporate tls/ssl into it and you are fine then [04:53] movin pyro to main shouldnt be a prob [04:53] but just have their answers sent back to the teacher, then do the checking separately [04:53] sorry i was talking to my mom (real big issue at home atm) [04:53] mhz, what about it ? [04:53] we dont have it [04:54] jsgotangco, I hope everythings ok [04:54] oh, then never mind [04:54] ryan_rousseau: so yeah, ditto on ogra's suggestion too, i'd rather have do the ssl route since Pyro supports [04:56] awesome, thanks very much for the clarification guys. I'll continue working on my specs as is [04:56] ryan_rousseau: expect an email from me later (for formality though) [04:56] ryan_rousseau, pitti would be the person to talk to about security and main inclusion but he's very busy currently [04:57] ogra, I understand, with the big release and all [04:57] ryan_rousseau: if you got an updated spec, i would appreciate it and have it added in my todo [04:58] how do I add to your todo? [04:58] err i mean i will add it myself in my emacs-planner heh [04:58] sorry for that [04:59] ah ok [04:59] fly to asia and bring a pencil :P [04:59] haha [04:59] I'm currently drafting a detailed spec for each app [04:59] wiki.edubuntu.org/Amenity [04:59] ogra: will these lang uploads fit? [05:00] jsgotangco, according to pitti they will [05:00] ok [05:00] i'm scared myself, belive me :) [05:00] i saw -zh [05:00] jsgotangco, wiki.edubuntu.org/Pike is still under heavy drafting [05:00] *shudder* [05:00] he just worked down the list [05:01] ryan_rousseau: thanks [05:01] jsgotangco, thank you [05:01] to sad the shipit CD will only have english === jryer [n=jryer@166.114.249.99] has joined #edubuntu [05:06] Where can I find educational software for edubuntu in Spanish? [05:07] jryer: it usually depends on the apps if they have spanish stranslations [05:08] Is there an ISO CD with Spanish software? [05:09] jryer: hi [05:09] jryer: not yet [05:09] jryer: most applications have spanish as a translated set [05:09] you can get it in spanish once your environment is set to it [05:10] jryer: anything in particular you are lookin for? [05:10] jryer, depends, the dapper liveCD (with installer) has full support for spanish, but it only installs the workstation version [05:11] We are teaching adolocentes 15-20 yrs old...just wanted to look around or download an entire CD [05:11] jryer: and when installing edubuntu-install iso, then you can immediately set your env. for spanish and get lang. support from internet [05:12] jryer: soy de chile, y tu? [05:12] jryer, the install CD only has space for english, so if you dont want the ltsp server we install from the install CD then the liveCD should be fine for you [05:12] mhz, That is another problem...we don't have internet in the labs. Soy de ee.uu. pero trabajo aca en la paz con adolocentes en el alto [05:12] save children? [05:13] Yes, Save the Children [05:13] jryer: i just replied an email to seth :D [05:14] jryer, do you have the opportunity to diownload and use a DVD ? the DVD has all langpacks as well as the live and the install isos on it [05:15] jryer: after dapper release, i suppose I'll get some funds to work on the customization for a Edubuntu version for older hardware. this will be in spanish and have xubuntu as default and gnome as option :D [05:15] jryer: this will focous on latinamerican needs [05:15] brb [05:15] It looks like the edubuntu site is down because we cannot download anything. Another obstacle is that the computers in the labs do not have DVD functinality [05:16] thats what i was suspecting :/ [05:16] ogra: else, I may find some ways to send you a DVD so you get all at once, in the meantime. [05:16] ogra sorry [05:16] heh [05:16] jryer: else, I may find some ways to send you a DVD so you get all at once, in the meantime. [05:16] but i'd take a DVD if you'd send me one ;) [05:16] lol === ajayc [i=Ajay@59.93.195.189] has joined #edubuntu [05:17] mhz, if he has no reader that wont help [05:17] ahh i see a op [05:17] ogra: sure! you'll get a t-shirt from our proj. at least!! [05:17] i worte a mail to some ubuntu official [05:17] ajayc, about what ? [05:17] that there were no op here [05:17] we dont want to use ops here [05:17] :D === ogra throws a look at highvoltage [05:18] highvoltage, hi === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage [05:18] hi ajayc === highvoltage catches up [05:18] ajayc, as in all ubuntu channels we dont want ops constantly but we have a list of people that can op if needed (for emergency) [05:18] jryer: hmmm, if seth comes to chile for june 20th, I will provide cd's in spanish for him :D [05:18] ok ogra [05:19] i think i explained it to you before :) [05:19] ajayc: i think i received a mail from you. sorry if i haven't responded yet. [05:19] mhz, if we could get a copy of DVD that would be great but if we could get CD with Spanish support, even better. We want to do a network install but not sure how it will work because of broken links to instructions. Will figure what we can do in the meantime [05:19] what was that? [05:19] ajayc: ogra, JaneW and I (and some others) can get opps whenever we want [05:19] who made u op? [05:19] chanserv [05:20] ajayc, the freenode staff and chanserv [05:20] oh cool [05:20] mhz, we are talking about taking our team of 3-4 to chile because june 20th just happens to be during our one-week break... Seth will keep you updated. [05:20] jryer: hmmm, my only prob. before june 20 th is lack of time and too much stuff to prepare for the event. I doubt I can customize a solution before june 20th. :( but... let me think of ways. [05:21] and op obsession is so last millenium! [05:21] (I am not actually here...) [05:21] hey JaneW :) [05:21] hey ogra [05:21] jryer: that would be awsome!! [05:21] mhz, no problem...we are just using Windows in the meantime. === ogra hugs virtual non attending JaneW === JaneW is going to kata box in a minute [05:21] heh yay [05:21] jryer: then "yes,, problem" :D [05:21] highvoltage: I am coming in on wednesday [05:22] would have been there today but my car is STILL not fixed properly [05:22] JaneW: great. are you coming in for the farewell? [05:22] the autoelectrician broke it [05:22] JaneW: highvoltage has got a car [05:22] highvoltage: farewell? [05:22] mhz: he lives on the other side of the world from me [05:22] hey JaneW [05:22] farewell...that soon??? [05:22] JaneW: we're having a farewell for all the people who's leaving TSF [05:22] hey cbx33 [05:22] highvoltage: oh! [05:22] highvoltage: cool, well then I should be there [05:23] highvoltage: what time? [05:23] JaneW: an e-mail was sent to 12plein, didn't you get it? [05:23] late? [05:23] oh I haven;t checked that folder today... [05:23] mhz, gotta run, we are preparing for classes tomorrow. Appreciate the help and look fwd to hearing more about what you are doing in chile! [05:23] have to scroll up to see it [05:23] I'm guessing that Ubuntu's openssl package doesn't have RC5 or IDEA compiled since they're copyrighted? [05:23] highvoltage, bah, and i cant attend [05:23] oh yay, not late, cos I can;t stay into evening, my Dad will be in town [05:23] jryer: okis, thx, good luck === ogra cries [05:24] highvoltage: well I guess I can break my news there [05:24] JaneW: it's at 12:30 [05:24] highvoltage: SUSHI! *Y*U*M* [05:24] highvoltage: UTC? [05:24] :D [05:24] 10:30 UTC [05:24] highvoltage: streaming! streaming! [05:25] bye homies, it's time to sweat. [05:25] mhz: heh. our bandwidth here will never survive it! [05:25] :( [05:25] yeah [05:26] highvoltage: seen my blog. I have one of Madonna's bras! [05:26] bye homies, i need to go home too. getting late :) [05:26] from an auction [05:26] heh [05:26] bye [05:26] JaneW: heh, i'll look later tonight (not sure if i want to though) [05:26] bye! === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@242.Red-83-49-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:47] bleh, switch user doesn't work with LTSP [05:47] and still got that Sleep option in the logout window as well :o [05:47] spacey: what you mean? [05:47] if you use LTSP 4.2 on dapper :) [05:47] spacey, in gnome ? [05:47] ahh [05:47] yeah [05:47] *phew* === mhz relaxes [05:47] especially that sleep button is quite nasty :) [05:48] please avoid such statements until thursdaya if you dont want me to have a heart attack ! [05:48] ogra: sorry :D [05:48] lol [05:48] spacey, gnome-session saks gdm if a user is logged in locally or not [05:48] seems thats a gdm bug [05:48] *asks === mhz rephrases spacey's: bleh, switch user doesn't work with normal LTSP (not Edubuntu!) [05:49] thats why we dont have to care about it with ldm ;) it simply doesnt answer such requests [05:49] i think its in lunchpad somewhere [05:49] more people encountered it [05:49] mhz, "normal" ltsp == ubuntu ltsp in this channel [05:49] ;) === spacey searches it [05:49] ogra: :D [05:50] yeah [05:50] muecow (crappy name btw) [05:50] ask jammcq to change it :) [05:50] not an ubuntu creation [05:51] maybe you should call it utsp or something, to avoid confusion, but it might increase confusion as well ;) [05:51] ubuntu terminal server power [05:51] heh [05:52] i'll just ask jammcq to stop providing an ubuntu version of ltsp.org :P === ogra puts on an evil face === pygi spreads a rumour about Student control panel not working at all [05:53] pygi, ! [05:54] ogra, yes? :) === caravena [n=caravena@221-55-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [05:54] stop spreading rumors that may kill me === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [05:54] :) [05:54] lol [05:57] hehe [05:57] ogra: that would be evil :p in some cases "classic" LTSP is more desirable :) [05:58] but i think they should put up some big note on their ubuntu page, that the ubuntu ltsp is set up differently [05:58] spacey, just joking... [05:58] pygi: what student control panel? [05:58] *pwef* :P [05:58] (i have to give back some of the evilness i experience here ;) ) [05:58] hehe :D [05:59] mhz, the one we ship in universe? [05:59] mhz, sudo apt-get install student-control-panel [05:59] duh! /me had no idea [05:59] i should test that, didn't know it was already there === mhz slaps once again === pygi hopes to have a rocking version ready for edgy [05:59] this one doesn't rock? [06:00] spacey, it does, but the next version will rock even more ;) [06:00] (at least I hope so) [06:00] ah :p [06:00] it doesnt *rock* it does only some basics [06:00] i guess it doesn't work with classic ltsp? ;) [06:00] and its only for ubuntu ltsp [06:01] since its written for ssh based connections === mhz will need to reboot :( === mhz is now known as mhz_rebooting [06:08] arggh i knew eating that chocolate bar was a bad idea === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-85-40.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === Burgwork [n=corey@d66-183-174-128.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [06:30] hey highvoltage === mhz [n=mhz@201.214.84.130] has joined #edubuntu [06:32] re [06:34] ogra: any url where I can get more info related to student-control-panel? [06:34] cache show provides bare minimum [06:35] install it and test it ;) [06:35] ogra: done it [06:35] mhz, TeschersPet has the list of suggestions etc [06:35] but I have no clients to boot from right now :) [06:35] oooh, okis [06:35] but its not specific to s-c-p [06:36] i.e. there is no further info about it on that page [06:36] only a collection of possible ideas [06:36] ogra: anyways, in the meantime, it start :) and gives me a couple of lines of error which I suppose are generated because no clients are found [06:37] might be, i dont have the time to look at it now [06:37] no worries [06:37] I understand [06:37] (and its unlikely i'll have any time until thursday) [06:38] just wanted to tell you "good idea and I guess it will work just fine" [06:38] hey cbx33 [06:39] ogra: have you experienced any weirdness with the edubuntu gtk theme? i see red spots over my buttone now and again. it looks sick :) [06:40] highvoltage, I've experienced that too [06:40] thought it was just my rubbish graphics card [06:40] and over scrollbars too? [06:41] but from my experience it's ubuntu toio === adhoc_ [n=kim@ppp203-233.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:41] cbx33: i haven't seen it on the scrollbars yet === yurtboy [n=alfred@c-71-192-4-29.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:43] highvoltage: i have not had such issue in GNOME nor in XFCE [06:44] cbx33: what is you email address (to send my 2 questions regarding ESA) unless we use IRC? === highvoltage logs a bug on launchpad [06:45] petesavage@ubuntu.com [06:45] mhz, I will most likely be here a little later on [06:45] want to work on th wiki some more [06:45] cbx33: so, what you prefer? [06:45] email them [06:45] okis [06:45] and we can discuss later if I'm there [06:46] sure [06:46] if not I'll reply [06:47] I'm also hoping to get gisomount to a beta state today [06:47] questions about the launchpad cookbook link [06:47] when someone gets a chance [06:47] shoot [06:48] thanks [06:48] this link [06:48] https://launchpad.net/products/edubuntu.cookbook [06:48] sorry this link [06:48] https://launchpad.net/products/edubuntu.cookbook/pre-alpha [06:48] points left to the cookbook Home [06:49] but the link is on the right [06:49] I think [06:49] anyways being an enduser [06:49] it was a bit odd [06:49] I'll pass that onto to the cookbook peeps [06:49] thanks yurtboy [06:50] sure hope to be more help soon [06:50] hey has anyone (yes ogra I asked this before ( -: ) Had luck with local devices? I am going to try fuse [06:50] just wondering [06:52] whois AliasVegas [06:52] cbx33, what ahppened with cookbook? [06:53] ^^^^ about the link [06:53] I havn't had time to investigate [06:53] gotta cook dinner :p [06:53] bbl [06:53] I dont know what all those links in launchpad are [06:53] no meanings [06:53] ah [06:53] k, bon apetit [06:53] none of this links are relevant [06:54] pygi, can you fix that then ? [06:54] (since you took over the cookbook) [06:54] ogra, how? I have no powers over other's people products, teams, etc [06:55] you should have the administration rights for it, its the core part of cookbooks inclusion in the distro [06:55] the LP links need to be ok (especially the bzr ones) to build the package in edgy) [06:55] i think we need to ask launchpad administrators to give the rights to pygi [06:56] highvoltage, there are a lot of teams and products related to cookbook :-/ [06:56] just talk to the admins that are there now for the cookbook [06:56] None are good :-/ [06:56] cbx33: nock nock...."follow the white rabbit" [06:56] please contact the owner of that page to get it transferred [06:57] ogra, ergh, all of them? (considering there is a lot of them :-/ ) [06:57] pygi: i would talk to the people who currently own them, and delete all the old groups one by one, and make a new one [06:57] sure [06:57] highvoltage, indeed [06:57] at least weed out th eold cruft [06:57] can products ownership be tranfered tho? === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [06:58] the LP page is (from a dev POV) the most immportant part === Arc [n=arc@user-10bj4uf.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #Edubuntu [06:58] ogra, indeed [06:58] but I am not sure can product be tranfered to other owner === mhz listens to Molotov - Cerdo while translating (from wiki) into spanish [06:59] and if the supermirror is up in edgy, there needs to be a valid bzr source where it can pull from [06:59] cbx33: BTW, is ESA supposed to be UsingEdubunt? or they are 2 diff things? === mhz forgot to ask that in email :( [06:59] highvoltage, could you please ask in #launchpad can they delete they product? [06:59] mhz, ESA builds rockets and UsingEdubuntu is a helpfile :) so yes, they are different ;) [07:00] I'll ask in the team to put me as owner [07:00] ogra: now I got the idea then [07:00] thx [07:00] ;) [07:00] just to be clear about my cookbook comment this link https://launchpad.net/products/edubuntu.cookbook/pre-alpha pulls up a page that then sais "For a look at the current cookbook, click on the link to the home page in the LEFTmenu." But that was hard to find and I clicked "Product: Edubuntu Cookbook" on the RIGHT that seemed to work [07:00] yurtboy, that page is supposed to be erased [07:00] okay [07:01] highvoltage: good to talk about translations now? [07:01] yurtboy, the cookbook is gone through several hands, so the LP entry is a bit messy [07:01] pygi: sure, ok if it happens tomorrow? [07:01] mhz: sure [07:01] highvoltage, ofcourse [07:01] highvoltage, thanks :) [07:01] mhz: Bluekuja is also busy with spanish translation [07:01] highvoltage, as long as it happens at all it can even happen next month ;) === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-85-40.houston.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] [07:01] ogra, finally we'll have cookbook for this release [07:01] pygi: i'll add it to my ever growing evolution todo list ;) [07:01] highvoltage: okis, I have asked this in the ML and also got some suggestions here but I have still not a clear wise idea [07:01] pygi, yep :) [07:01] ogra: heh [07:01] highvoltage, thanks :) [07:02] ogra, I am just sorry you didnt had time for LTSP part, but there is always "tommorow" :) [07:02] highvoltage, if the LP admins cause probs feel free to point them to me [07:02] highvoltage: there is the Edubuntu wiki info (helpful pages) + the drupal. [07:02] hehe, ogra is powerful :) [07:02] ogra: heh. ok. i've discovered a while back that it helps to be good friends with them ;) [07:02] pygi, nah, but i can talk to my colleagues ;) [07:03] highvoltage: So far, I have some translations in Tecnocimiento's page and others in Ubuntu-cl.org wiki [07:03] ogra, I know, was joking :) [07:03] mhz: yes, i've though of having an it.edubuntu.org, and es.edubuntu.org [07:03] highvoltage: and a couple in wiki.edubuntu.org/TheEnglishPage/es [07:03] mhz: both with complete drupal copies, with translated content [07:04] highvoltage, uuh 47336 is weird [07:04] highvoltage: okis, that would solve/answer my questions for drupal. Any thoughts about wiki ones? [07:05] damn, I cant seem to find his mail [07:05] guess I'll have to catch him on jabber [07:05] mhz: i suppose they'll move along to the new wiki. how that will work, i'm not entirely sure. i think the docteam vision will clear up a bit when it actualy happens :) [07:05] ergh, there is mail :-/ [07:05] ogra: it is weird, isn't it? it doesn't happen when i select any other gtk theme though. [07:05] highvoltage: hmmm, lost me [07:06] highvoltage, do you have an ubuntu handy to compare ? [07:06] mhz: docteam is moving all the documentation to a new wiki. so all docs will be on the doc wiki, and the current wiki will be used for everything else except docs. [07:06] its the same engine ubuntu uses [07:06] highvoltage: ahhhhh, finally! [07:06] ogra: nope :( i only have xubuntu and edubuntu [07:07] highvoltage: any date for that? (yeah, of course I can ask in -doc :D) [07:07] well, to late to fix anyway [07:07] the archive is pretty much locked [07:07] highvoltage, k, mail about taking over the team - done [07:07] let's hope he won't resist :) [07:08] pygi, who owns it ? jelkner ? kjcole ? [07:08] kjcole [07:08] he wont object [07:08] mhz: i have no idea. i don't know if they have a date yet. might be best to ask in -doc yes [07:08] pygi: resitance is futile! [07:08] highvoltage, indeed :P [07:08] ogra, will we be able to package the cookbook after dapper, and put in -updates? [07:09] probably [07:09] nice :) [07:09] ok, I'll just stop now, I know you are busy with preparing release [07:10] in fact i'm currently twiddling thumbs ... archive is locked and CD builds wont start before the last package is built [07:10] where is a good place to ask ltsp (edubuntu) questions like hardware and other settings, I know the k12ltsp/ltsp wiki is good but some time it is not so debian ubuntu friendly [07:10] but i have to pick up something 150km away, so i'll be out for ~2h soon [07:10] yurtboy, here is the place :) [07:11] yurtboy, and soon (perhaps) the Edubuntu cookbook is the place :P [07:11] thanks, is sata better then say an older scsi disk? For example a scsi with [07:11] 80 - 160 mbs data transfer [07:11] Scsi is better [07:11] It's not all about data tranfer [07:12] transfer* [07:12] SATA is cheaper :) [07:12] used scsi is not bad [07:12] ogra, o joy :P [07:12] but there are still a lot SATA controllers not supported [07:12] got a 18 gig for $35 [07:12] speeds okay [07:12] highvoltage, wanna approve me in edubuntu-doc team? [07:13] (If I am good enough, ofcourse :P) [07:13] pygi: sure [07:13] yurtboy: sata is better these days, imho [07:13] yurtboy: since they're cheaper, so you just buy more and stripe them [07:13] highvoltage, thanks [07:14] does it still lag like ide in handling numerous read writes???? [07:14] yurtboy: your stripe them over two disks and then add another double size one (or two of the same size) and mirror it over [07:14] can i boot off that [07:15] with linux yes, i don't know about other operating systems [07:15] what other [07:15] ( -: [07:15] yurtboy: i'm not sure about your lag question, but yes, it does get laggy with lots of read/writes, especially when 20 users open openoffice.org at the same time [07:16] yurtboy: you then run out of disk bandwidth quickly :) [07:16] lucasvo@supernova:~/Desktop$ bzr branch sftp://lucas@wservices.ch/home/lucas/mercury_newsletter mercury [07:16] bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: /home/lucasvo/Desktop/sftp:/lucas@wservices.ch/home/lucas/mercury_newsletter/ [07:16] lucasvo@supernova:~/Desktop$ [07:17] what's the correct URL? [07:17] alright, I need to research this since I am upgrading a library install to 10 machines. Right now I am using Fedora/LTSP but when the time comes to update I will use Edu, though I need to get local devices working which I am about to work on. [07:19] highvoltage: then, mdke suggests I keep trasnlated wiki pages under ubuntu-cl.org. I hope users get there. So, for every english pageI translate into spanish, I'll add a link to ubuntu-cl [07:21] mhz: i know you like moin a lot, we can keep the spanish edubuntu site in a moin wiki too if you want, but it might not be very consistant [07:22] highvoltage: what's the ubuntu wiki running? [07:23] lucasvo: moinmoin [07:23] moin [07:23] and moin :) [07:23] :) [07:23] and afterwards? [07:23] moinmoin still [07:24] the documentation pages will just live on its own moinmoin wiki [07:24] oh, ok [07:24] why moin and not mediawiki, btw? [07:24] highvoltage: hmmm, well, I never thought of this before, but it's the first time I realize I have some conflicts of interest :D For one, I want translations to be noticed and avaliable for edubuntu visitors. But also, I want to encourage the sleeping Chilean community who usually participate only via Forums. [07:24] lucasvo, because php security is hell :) [07:24] lucasvo: i don't think that any ubuntu stuff will ever be ran on a mediawiki ;) [07:25] highvoltage: ohh, and finally, of course, if Chilean community does not rise in other ways, then I'd like chilean people to see Tecnocimiento's efforts to spread this. [07:25] mhz: i think that having it in drupal would be best. then we can have the same theme, same look and feel, and give the same functionality for users of all languages [07:26] mhz: what do you mean? [07:26] lucasvo: and that is due to the fact moin does not need PHP, iirc. [07:26] ogra: what's the correct syntax for bzr branch? bzr branch sftp://user@sourcehost/path/to/branch destination ? [07:26] branch is a command you only use locally [07:26] you want bzr get [07:26] ogra: was it always like this? [07:26] yes [07:27] and if you used get and have the repo locally, you only use bzr pull to update [07:27] highvoltage: oh, there are 2 things. Drupal contents I translate must be kept in drupal sure! Wiki Edubuntu pages (there's a list of suggested pages, iirc) I translate.. those are the ones I am asking about now ;) [07:27] lucasvo@supernova:~/Desktop$ bzr get sftp://lucas@wservices.ch/home/lucas/mercury_newsletter mercury [07:27] back in 2h [07:27] bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: /home/lucasvo/Desktop/sftp:/lucas@wservices.ch/home/lucas/mercury_newsletter/ [07:28] ogra: ?? [07:28] lucasvo, #bzr, i'm a bit in a hurry [07:29] ogra: [07:29] oh sorry [07:29] or ask in 2.5h [07:29] :) [07:29] highvoltage: oh, one other thing regarding drupal site, "Related Projects" menu should have Xubuntu too, or not? === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu [07:30] mhz, no, because Xubuntu is not yet an official project [07:30] oooh, i see, Burgwork thx. [07:31] mhz: ogra is asking silbs about that today [07:31] ogra: did you get a chance to go through our questions with silbs? [07:31] highvoltage: BTW, is silbs the one to email for 'special amount of cd shipping' ? [07:32] mhz: it might be her. would make sense. [07:32] I'm here now people [07:32] highvoltage, isn't maralize doing that? [07:32] and one last thing before I get some food.. highvoltage, any news about artwork for edubuntu cd's? [07:33] Burgwork: she handles the cd distribution, but i'm not sure that she can authorise large cd orders [07:33] mhz, you gonna be back? [07:33] Burgwork: hmm, could you provide me with email addresses for both of them? [07:33] mhz: i think JaneW is best to ask about that. i don't know antying about the edubuntu cd artwork, or even if it exists yet [07:34] cbx33: I'll be here for at least next 10 minutes but I just run out of questions for highvoltage (for now) :D [07:34] run =ran [07:34] hmmm, JaneW wont be here until wed, maybe. :( [07:39] ok [07:39] I'm just about to check my mail [07:40] mhz, did you send that email? [07:40] yup [07:42] i got it === yurtboy [n=alfred@c-71-192-4-29.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:43] ok mhz, I see your point [07:44] Request: The lts.conf help page could use some examples? This link has some http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf I could enter them in? [07:44] cbx33: I am pulled out of the computer now... gotta get some food :( [07:44] we decided that seeing as the document was going to be printed [07:44] cbx33: I'll be back in 40 mins [07:44] ok mhz speak to you later [07:44] eeeeeeeeeeeeek === cbx33 has to solder back something onto his motherboard === mhz is now known as mhz_Food [07:44] my bridge heatsink fell off [07:44] that's not good [07:45] could explain why it keeps crashing [07:45] :( [07:45] now do i do this now, or later :S [07:45] think i may leave it till tomorrow [07:46] ping LaserJock [07:46] hiya [07:52] ogra, how do i get the label of a cd from ths iso? === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-238-107.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.211.8.204] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_Food is now known as mhz [08:36] cbx33: re === mhz had no time for a relaxing coffee (espresso would be nice) [08:38] hey mhz === lucasvo is bored writing documentation [08:39] cbx33: last thing i got from you was "I see your point" [08:39] ok [08:39] with regards to the ESA [08:39] we decided that the information in the wiki version [08:40] was too long winded to end up in the printed pamphlet, which is what ESA is going to become [08:40] i see. [08:40] so? [08:42] so [08:42] I think that perhaps we could have some more updated information [08:42] on the website [08:42] and say in the pamphlet that you can view this online [08:42] what do you think [08:42] ogra: last time I asked about this, I recall you mentioned something like management was not entirely open to hear from edubuntu? If I am correct, then who should I personally email asking for Edubuntu status? (so they can't say "ogra is bugging about it again ; ) ) [08:43] ogra: I mean about Edubuntu artwork stuff [08:43] cbx33: yeah! [08:44] cbx33: but should ESA (the pamphlet) be for Edubuntu general stuff or Dapper specific? [08:44] ok great [08:44] it's more edubuntu general [08:44] at least that's how i wrote it [08:45] ogra, when will those iso you want testing be ready? [08:46] cbx33: and do you agree with my 2 cents regarding 'Using Edubuntu' page? [08:47] yes sounds good [08:48] mhz, howz the spam killing going :D === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [08:53] cbx33: well, I had almost no web connection during weekend and today I am still answering about 80 emails before I can get to kill more spam :) [08:53] hehe [08:53] I was just messing [08:53] cbx33: If I were a programmer I'd definately do something like a "shoot'em-all-spams" [08:54] hehe === mhz can't understand why people insist on spamming [08:55] no [08:55] its is wholly stupid [08:55] indeed [08:55] it benefits no onw [08:55] s/w/e [08:55] no, it's not, because people buy it [08:55] do they???????/ [08:56] mhz: why would the spammer send spam if they weren't selling anything? [08:56] lucasvo: will you buy viagra? :D [08:56] mhz: not me [08:56] but a lot of other people do [08:57] hmmm, so it is like subliminal message? [08:57] translate subliminal [08:57] hmmm, eeek, never thought it was not an english word... "a message in between lines" [08:58] mhz: my mothertounge is not english [08:58] thank you [08:58] like, showing the coca coal logo very quickly, without you conciously noticing it [08:58] mhz: no, there are people that "dumb" that they visit the website from the spammers and buy it [08:59] lucasvo: hehe, neither is mine. As I speak spanish (latin origin) I have found many coincidences with english lang. [09:00] lucasvo: oh, then they are potential clicking-danger [09:00] no, people really want to buy it [09:00] eeeek, [09:00] not me or you [09:00] but several other [09:01] and spam is cheep so even if you only convince 0.000002% of the receivers it's still the money worth [09:01] interesting, I had never though of this as a 'benefit' for someone === superseth [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:06] pygi: you have a website / blog? === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-165-216-95.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:12] JaneW: r u here? [09:13] i think her telkom connection just died for a moment. [09:16] hmm, one question... why our ISO's are called dapper-install instead of edubuntu-dapper-install ? [09:17] yes, that's annoying [09:17] best would be [09:18] edubuntu-dapper-DATE.iso [09:18] or edubuntu-dapper-flight4.iso [09:19] mhz: file a bug in LP? [09:20] hmmm, it depends... maybe there are some policies why that is the way it is [09:20] hence my question [09:20] ;) [09:20] but, sure. It shold be easier for newcomers. [09:26] highvoltage, working on a website, set up a blog without content just yet :) [09:27] why do you ask? [09:27] pygi: i don't know :) [09:27] I have a lot of things to write, just no time :) [09:28] I'll write some things about SoC and stuff on pygi.wordpress.com unless I get the website up and running [09:28] pygi: i keep huge archives of useless information in my head. and a field pygi.blog was empty, so i thought i'd ask you [09:28] cool === pygi shows mockup - http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/6396/template1gv.png [09:28] k, goodnight! [09:28] highvoltage, nice :) [09:28] night :) === yurtboy [n=alfred@c-71-192-4-29.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:35] When someone gets a chance, do I have to install any of the fuse apps on the client via chroot? or all on the server? === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:38] yurtboy: ? [09:38] yes [09:38] edubuntu clients do not even need harddisk because they boot from server, so all app.s are living on the server side [09:39] I know [09:39] just in the past [09:39] ogra has mentioned running chroot /opt/ltsp/init/etc apt-get [09:40] hmmm, i dont know why you would need to do so [09:40] have you set up fuse before? I will look again on the ltsp wiki but just wondering [09:41] oh, nope, I had o idea fuse was an app. I thought it was an 'adjective' :D [09:41] sorry [09:41] ( -: [09:41] fuse may not be the right term [09:41] indeed [09:41] it is for local devices ltspsfd "fuse based remote filesystem daemon for thin-clients" [09:42] ooohh [09:42] then I have even less idea [09:43] ( -: [09:51] local devices isn't supported yet [09:53] cbx33: so the fuse info on the wiki.ltsp can not work? [09:54] I've no idea [09:55] understood === ere [n=ere@96.80-202-183.nextgentel.com] has joined #edubuntu [10:27] so far I can mount the usb disk on a client via fuse via the terminal of the client [10:53] yurtboy, good going === mhz needs to see Edubuntu CD artwork :( [11:02] Kubuntu has them even as a merchandising support http://www.kubuntu.org/ [11:02] nn all === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [11:46] mhz, not even i have seen the CD artwork