[12:03] <\sh> bmonty: builds here on amd64 just fine [12:03] \sh: ok, thanks [12:03] <\sh> rscheme 0.7.3.4.b3-4 right? [12:04] <\sh> i can try as well on i386 [12:05] \sh: version is correct, and if you could try a i386 build that would be great [12:05] <\sh> bmonty: on i386 I can reproduce your segfault [12:06] <\sh> basic top level includes: mathlib [12:06] <\sh> make[2] : *** [system.img] Segmentation fault [12:06] <\sh> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/shermann/packages/dapper/rscheme/rscheme-0.7.3.4.b3/stage0' [12:06] \sh: yup, ok at least it isn't just me :) === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:07] \sh: can you please add a note to Malone #47107 with what you just tested? [12:07] Malone bug 47107 in rscheme "[UNMETDEPS] rscheme links against old libmysqlclient" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/47107 [12:07] <\sh> sure [12:08] <\sh> hmm...my karma will just increase again today === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B2177.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] is it me or no info has been put up about the ubuntu conference un Paris? [12:18] Dapper isn't even out the door yet :-) [12:18] but yeah, I'd like to see info too [12:20] <\sh> hub: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperSummitParis?highlight=%28Paris%29 [12:21] ah ok [12:21] fridge has nothing [12:21] nor the calendar [12:22] \sh: php4-yaz is uploaded [12:23] <\sh> bmonty: thx :) [12:23] \sh: will you be there? [12:23] well, I was looking for more info, but whatever [12:28] <\sh> hub: dunno...I'm busy with my FAI project...actually I could only join for a weekend or so, if I find the time and money to come to paris, and a sleeping place in paris would be nice ;) === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] Is it part of policy that the "Depends" line of a package does not contain newlines ? [12:32] <\sh> neutrinomass: it needs to be one line === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] \sh: I'm writing a program that parses /var/lib/dpkg/status and I'm having problems. Now that I look at it closely, it's not a newline problem. The status file lists different deps than what 'aptitude show evince-gtk' does (although I have no clue as to why ... ) === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:36] <\sh> neutrinomass: which package do you parse? source or binary? [12:36] anybody know of a way to test debconf stuff [12:37] \sh: 'evince-gtk'. In the status file, I only see "Package","priority","architecture" and "section", while aptitude show evince-gtk lists a bunch of dependencies. [12:37] <\sh> LaserJock: man debconf ;) [12:38] \sh: I might be doing something wrong, I'm not intimately acquainted with dpkg and friends.... [12:38] <\sh> neutrinomass: wait :) [12:38] \sh: Thanks a lot ! :) [12:39] LaserJock: make sure you make a local debconf config file [12:39] <\sh> LaserJock: under examples in this manpage there is a way how to test debconf things === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] \sh: oh, ok. thanks === vud1 [n=vud1@80.25.69.175] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] <\sh> neutrinomass: hmm...when I install evince-gtk /var/lib/dpkg/status shows me the same dependencies as apt-cache show evince-gtk [12:40] \sh: After installing only ? Shouldn't that stuff be available before installing ? [12:41] <\sh> neutrinomass: no not status [12:41] \sh: I've been parsing the wrong file. In C :( Grrr, where is that information then ? [12:42] \sh: just asking. won't be there [12:43] <\sh> neutrinomass: in /var/lib/apt/ [12:43] <\sh> neutrinomass: in /var/lib/dpkg/ only all installed stuff is mentioned there...what you want is Packages [12:44] <\sh> hub: tell me when you are the next time in germany :) I owe you some beer ;) [12:44] \sh: Great! Thanks! I'm pretty lucky the file format is the same :D Btw, since I've already distracted you from your work, is there a way to know a files content's without installing them? (besides packages.ubuntu.com ) [12:45] <\sh> neutrinomass: check apt-file :) [12:46] \sh: Thanks. [12:46] <\sh> neutrinomass: or http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/ there are Content-$arch.gz files..that's what you want [12:48] <\sh> and no one is distracting me...I should be in bed, because I have to get up at 3am UTC+2 === Amaranth_ [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] \sh: I'll just hook apt-file with a bash script afterwards (I could do the entire thing in bash, but I totally suck at it so I had to resort to C). Last question: How come some packages don't have "Depends" ? [12:50] <\sh> neutrinomass: e.g.? [12:51] \sh: I don't know. But cat us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_source_Sources | grep Package | wc -l gives 2384, but grepping for "Packages" gives 2429 === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] Hm.. grepping for "Package:" gives 2384, but "Depends:" gives 1369 ... === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:54] <\sh> neutrinomass: because you have Build-Depends and Build-Depends-Indep ;) [12:54] <\sh> which is 2 lines [12:56] \sh: (last, I promise!) Yes, yes. If a package uses gtk/qt/... for example though, it will be in Depends, not in the other categories? [12:56] <\sh> categories and dependencies are different [12:56] <\sh> s/categories/sections/ [12:57] <\sh> neutrinomass: but you have to make a difference between source packages and binary packages [12:57] \sh: Yes yes. I'm trying to figure out what programs have a GUI (to write a program that will semi-automatically create the .desktops for them). I've got a comprehensive list of widget toolkits, so I'm looking at "Depends" ... [12:58] <\sh> neutrinomass: you can't tell, there are some packages which only have build-dependencies but no UI attached [01:00] \sh: Well, yes. I'm surely going to miss a few,.. But I take it for granted that everything that includes gtk libs has a GUI to go with it :) Anyway, thanks a lot. I'll be skipping the packages without "Depends" in them ... [01:01] <\sh> neutrinomass: hmm..what about styles? [01:01] \sh: I was in Mainz the other day. I don't know next time [01:01] I'm not even sure I'll have a job tomorrow evening [01:02] <\sh> neutrinomass: e.g. kde styles do have a libqt build-dep, but it's not actually a GUI, but it's UI and doesn't need a .desktop file as in "put it into a menu" ;) [01:02] <\sh> hub: hu? what's up? [01:02] \sh: management conflict, we'll see [01:03] but if that end up that way, they are just moron [01:03] heh...they always are [01:03] \sh: I'll be creating useless .desktops for a few, yes. But if I can get 100 semi-ready (I'll have to fill in the .desktop "Category" manually in any case) , I don't mind rejecting a couple of useless files on the way :) [01:03] <\sh> hub: I know a company who needs good people ;) sysadmins and coders ;) [01:04] er..would that be canonical [01:04] \sh: as long as I can stay were I an [01:04] hub: why didn't they send you to LinuxTag as well (you're at Xandros, right?). They only had 1-man booth there IIRC [01:04] azeem: that was actually a personal schedule conflict [01:04] <\sh> neutrinomass: so you try to create .desktop files, and depending on libqt or libgtk dependencies you file them into the right category, like GNOME or QT? [01:04] ah [01:04] azeem: I was signing for my new house and moving [01:04] azeem: I return the van at 12:00 flying out at 15:00 [01:05] azeem: so it was not possible. otherwise I would have [01:05] <\sh> azeem: xandros in .de is just a one man show ;) [01:05] azeem: yeah, I'm a devleoper, not a sales person [01:06] azeem: my boss offered me to change the tickets to leave sooner [01:07] \sh: Hopefully yes. What I want to do is basically: Look through the deps of all the packages and pick out those with widget deps. List the conents of those packages and if they have a .desktop, I drop them. I find the icon using locate, I grab the first line of the package description and put it as a tooltip (it's good 70% of the times). Depending on the libs yeah, I could do the QT/GTK thing. Otherwise I'm left with many many .deskto [01:07] I think there were more developers than sales persons at the booths, but I didn't check :) [01:07] azeem: well, it depends what you try to sell [01:07] azeem: :-) [01:07] azeem: but it does not matter [01:07] \sh: Say 5 min fixing it up, another 3 min to file a report it in LP and another 2 min to link to the report you opened on the debian bugtracker :) [01:12] Bah, I'll try to do it with pipes instead. Screw C. === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-095-071.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz_`24 [n=truz_`24@74.129.166.232] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-005-117.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@80-193-7-120.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] afternoon [02:27] hey ajmitch [02:29] hi [02:31] <\sh> moins === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === paniq [n=braniq@port-212-202-184-193.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:00] heya ajmitch [03:00] yo [03:00] hello zul, imbrandon [03:01] hi all [03:01] yo zul ajmitch imbrandon [03:01] sup ... [03:01] hey zakame [03:02] lots of oo.o updated as of late ;) === ajmitch shoudl get to work on edgy specs :) === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.146.245] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] Heya gang [03:06] hello bddebian [03:06] ready to fix more bugs? [03:06] heya bddebian [03:06] Heya ajmitch [03:06] and zakame [03:06] ajmitch: Sure. But I thought uploads were cut off? [03:07] not that I've heard === zul is trying to get kernel to build...build dam you [03:07] I'll find out in a few minutes if my uploads don't get accepted :) [03:08] heh === zakame gets ready to finalize the x-swat list [03:08] zakame: sounds like you're getting heavily involved now :) [03:09] Yeah, zakame is Da Man now :-) [03:09] ajmitch: yeah, which is why I've been quiet at LP lately :D [03:09] bddebian: lol! [03:10] hehe....i think the term is fabbione's bitch [03:10] ;) [03:10] zakame enjoys it [03:10] Doh [03:10] Well I offered to be their bitch but they don't want me :'-( [03:10] he does like i did...too much info [03:11] uh huh [03:11] hahaha [03:12] bddebian: ok, uploads are still accepted [03:12] I just got 3 in [03:12] whoo...big man.. [03:12] ill be doing two hopefully this week.. [03:14] ajmitch: Well I'm useless/nobody anyway so... === bddebian crawls to his corner === slomo__ [n=slomo@p5486FDEE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon just crawls away becouse he dont even have a corner to call his own ;) [03:22] j/k [03:24] heh [03:36] right, lunchtime [03:38] haha imbrandon [03:39] what is a good hex editing tool for kde or gnome? [03:39] ghex or khexedit === jmg [n=jmg@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jmg [n=jmg@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jmg__ [n=jmg@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === julian [n=julian@cpe-70-95-143-112.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:54] hi, i originally asked this question in #ubuntu+1 with no help. question regarding 'switch user' option in the Exit menu. which product is this filed under for Launchpad? i want to look up the current bugs. [04:54] i want to check if a bug i have is a duplicate/already reported. === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-003-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] bddebian: yes? [05:18] Just saying Hi. Sorry [05:22] bddebian: ah, usually people want to wring my neck when they use exclamation marks [05:22] Nah === nawty [n=neogenix@globlet.eefy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Natja [n=lionel@st-209-235.student.fundp.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] oh, for goodness sakes. I'm starting to hate debconf :/ [05:44] Heya LaserJock [05:44] What [05:44] 's the problem? === caravena [n=caravena@100-45-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:48] I'm trying to use debconf so ripped off suns, but with virtually the same thing I get errors [05:49] but I can't figure out how to test it other than building the .deb and doing dpkg -i [05:50] be careful with the debconf keys [05:50] you need to cover several cases when you test with debconf: clean install, upgrade, and downgrade [05:51] it's the same issue that has been biting us with flashplugin-nonfree [05:52] well, I can't even get install to work === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:41] greetings [06:43] 'afternoon, Hobbsee [06:43] hi Hobbsee [06:44] hi crimsun and LaserJock [06:44] Hi Hobbsee, bye Hobbsee :-) [06:44] Gnight folks [06:44] hi Hobbsee [06:44] night bddebian [06:45] hi ajmitch & night bddebian [06:45] :-) [06:45] night time already? [06:45] cya bddebian [06:45] Hobbsee: kids wear him out [06:45] hehe. if in doubt, blame the kids. === Hobbsee blames assignments for making her tired. [06:48] hmmm...i really did get the cheapest petrol today. === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@ppp218-91.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === `6og [n=kgoetz@ppp218-91.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Hobbsee really wishes that people would search before writing bug reports. [07:06] I'll whip up some duplicate Kubuntu issues just for yuo! [07:09] no! [07:09] aww c'mon [07:10] you have all the great sound reports for me :-) [07:11] hehe === jinty [n=jinty@242.Red-83-49-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:12] i had a look at the alsa documentation a while ago - looks like you have plenty of sound documentation at your disposal... [07:14] oh I do. What's lovely about it is its scattered and obsolete nature. :-) [07:14] hehe === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp21-172.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@100-45-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:41] morning MOTU world [08:42] hi Gloubiboulga [08:43] hi LaserJock :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B2177.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:05] good morning motu world [09:05] hello dholbach! [09:05] hey Gloubiboulga [09:06] hi dholbach and Gloubiboulga [09:06] hi Hobbsee [09:08] dholbach! [09:08] heya Hobbsee, LaserJock [09:08] how's the universe fixing going? [09:10] unfortunately, I think there are more MOTUScience bugs than I can get done in time :( [09:10] but I suppose Universe in general is doing worse === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shenki [n=shenki@ppp163-51.lns3.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:29] dholbach: how are things going for you? are you getting any sleep? [09:29] yeah, a bit :) [09:29] dholbach: did the extra unmet deps stuff make it onto that list? === Hobbsee was being fat and lazy, and doing nothing. [09:30] Hobbsee: yeah [09:31] dholbach: cool [09:33] uggh, I can't wait for Dapper to be done with but I feel like we should have another year to finish it [09:33] welcome to software "engineering" :-) === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:40] dholbach: i just checked libadabindx - it seems to build fine here - what should i do with the bug? says it was linked to the old libmysqlclient, but i cant see that in the control file anyway... [09:40] Hobbsee: yeah, that was my problem with the bug title *blush* [09:40] hehe right [09:40] Hobbsee: one of its binary packages seems to be not installable [09:40] dholbach: and the fact that it seems to build fine here? [09:41] ah, depends on xlibs-static-pic [09:42] wonder why the pbuilder didnt pick it up - i thought it was supposed to... [09:44] because it's not in the build-deps [09:44] hmm...okay, i'm an idiot. seems to need xlibs-static-pic to install, not to build. [09:49] ok, so is the general rule to not have versioned deps unless it is neccesary? [09:50] LaserJock: i believe that's the case. === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B23E8.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:21] heya motus === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-103-218.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@wall2.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch checks to see what else he can do in universe [11:40] -devel is getting a bit tense. [11:40] indeed, I don't like that :( [11:41] release in 2~3 days, annoying bugs, everybody's stressed :/ [11:45] heh. I'm stressed already by the anticipated deluge of sound bugs. [11:45] And Ubuntu is the /least/ of my worries. === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d093020.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@62-15-158-30.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@80-193-7-120.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spiff_ [n=anders@c-a368e353.05-27-6f736c2.cust.bredband.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon [n=co@c-a368e353.05-27-6f736c2.cust.bredband.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === S [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:16] any mldonkey fans here? [01:17] if yes, could someone please retest this patch? it made problems for me, but I think this update is more or less urgent.. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi/debdiff?bug=354701;msg=10;att=1 [01:17] sorry, I'm not :) [01:17] how are you siretart ? [01:17] ajmitch: was a great weekend, but quite rainy [01:18] hm, patch looks like it's needed [01:18] ajmitch: how are you? [01:18] I'm good [01:18] preparing for edgy, finishing off whatever little I can do for dapper [01:18] last time, the package didn't install for me properly, and I wasn't sure why [01:19] but I don't think it is because of this patch, I rather think that I triggered some other bug in the package, but I'm not sure what it actually is, so I forwarded it to debian and hoped that someone else could look at the issue [01:20] the debdiff looks sane, at least [01:21] the current ubuntu package has a lot more invasive approach to this issue, and I'd like to see it dropped === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@DSL217-132-185-55.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["chapo] === S [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp191-6.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === EdgyEft [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@62-15-158-30.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] Malone #40505, any reason why this hasn't been uploaded? [03:09] Malone bug 40505 in wine "UVF exception for Wine 0.9.12" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/40505 === ryu [n=chris@p5487F096.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:13] bmonty: because the UVF exception for that version wasn't approved? [03:13] ajmitch: the bug report has a link to an email that says it was [03:13] no [03:13] at least for the latest at the time of the email [03:14] the bug report has a link to a former approval [03:14] note that siretart uploaded 0.9.9 on march 10th [03:14] ok [03:14] just because it was approved once in the past doesn't mean all future upstream versions get approval :) [03:15] if there's to be any chance, it'd have to pass by the uvf team [03:15] ajmitch: agreed, is there any point in doing a UVF request for it now? [03:15] dunno [03:15] it'd be a fair bit to approve === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] how will this work with dapper-updates? [03:15] yo [03:15] the UVF team have all been on irc in the last few hours [03:16] hi zul [03:16] I don't know, you'd have to check with mdz [03:16] good day zul [03:16] bmonty: I think wine is rather a -backports candidate than a -updates one [03:16] siretart: ok, I'll just leave it alone then :) [03:16] hey ajmitch [03:17] bmonty: you can still file a bug and create a bugtask for adding it to dapper-backports, so it doesn't get lost [03:17] getting UVF exceptions for big packages like wine at this late stage is hopeful at best :) [03:17] ajmitch: yes. let's better tell ppl to get it into dapper-backports instead [03:20] night all [03:20] gn8 ajmitch [03:21] hmm, you can't mark a bug for backport to dapper yet :) [03:23] bmonty: this is indeed a problem and needs to be solved [03:24] siretart: opening a bug now :) === Quintok [n=quintok@40.173.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Quintok [n=quintok@40.173.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [03:32] bmonty: bugno? (I'd like to subscribe) [03:33] siretart: Malone #47291 [03:33] Malone bug 47291 in malone "need to add dapper to backport menu" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/47291 === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] should dfontmgr (an interface to defoma) go under Applications->System, System->Preferences or System->Administration ? === thierryn [n=thierry@modemcable199.142-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Who_ [n=jonny@194-247-243-154.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] Seveas : can I disturb you from your important work? [03:55] my important work currently is a game of neverputt [03:56] so no, maybe in 10 minutes ;) [03:56] Sevas : no problem :) [04:06] thierryn, 'sup? [04:07] Seveas : hi, I'd just like to know if I am ready enough for the community council tomorrow... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThierryMoisan [04:08] Seveas : I'd also want to know if you've seen seb128 on irc recently, I want to talk to him since about a week and I never find him [04:08] #ubuntu-desktop [04:09] k thanks [04:09] your wikipage looks ok, you should at least get a motu and one of the admins of the french team to do some cheerleading for you [04:10] and if you get seb128 to cheerlead for you, that'd be really good [04:10] I was thinking about seb128 [04:10] :) [04:16] siretart : ping [04:16] thierryn: pong [04:17] siretart : you advocated my package (libfxscintilla), so I was wondering if you could help me tomorrow at the community council [04:18] thierryn: this was some time ago, no? [04:19] yeah... [04:19] thierryn: I'm not sure if I can make it tomorrow.. :/ [04:19] well it's at 16h00 UTC [04:26] siretart : anyway if you sudenly discover you can make it, I would be happy that you come, othwerwise that's not the end of the world === Whoopie [n=stephan@p54A7B9D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] anyone see why the packages user-es and user-de should remain in the archive? [04:32] Hi, who could fix mail-notification bug #43058 and #44086? There are only small adjustments needed which are stated in the bug report. Thanks a lot. [04:33] Malone bug 43058 in mail-notification "mail-notification doesn't autostart anymore" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/43058 [04:33] Malone bug 44086 in mail-notification "mail-notification's icon in the notification area has got a solid grey background." [Normal,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/44086 === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.242] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Whoopie [n=stephan@p54A7B9D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Natja [n=lionel@st-209-235.student.fundp.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@242.Red-83-49-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herz1 [n=herzi@d125166.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@221-55-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elkbuntu [n=melissa@203-206-255-153.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:26] hi === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@ubuntu/member/toadstool] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeALap [n=Ryan@cpe-68-174-251-13.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p50803AAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=chris@p5487F096.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeALap [n=Ryan@cpe-68-174-251-13.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp16-75.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:48] Would it be silly to file bugs for .desktops that don't validate because of a missing semi-column in Categories ? === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:06] neutrinomass: no, go ahead and file. [09:09] bluefoxicy: Ok. I'm feeling a little like wasting peoples' times though :) === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@lns-bzn-57-82-249-39-24.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["chapo] === redguy [n=mati@adc89.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === igorzolnikov [n=igorzoln@217.172.22.211] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@lns-bzn-57-82-249-39-24.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nom [i=mac@mini.nkvd.info] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=max@lns-bzn-57-82-249-39-24.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:45] Hi, i like ubuntu. How can i help it? [09:50] igorzolnikov: scroll to the bottom of http://www.ubuntu.com/community [09:50] igorzolnikov: one place we sorely need assistance is in bug triaging/work ; please /join #ubuntu-bugs and read its topic === Sp4rKy [n=max@lns-bzn-46-82-253-231-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawn_ [n=shawn@ns2.electric.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Insup [n=mike@host81-156-44-100.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _ZuZuu_ [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-71-23.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:44] hi [10:44] i've some issue with a bug "patching" [10:44] i'd "apt-get source" the bugged package [10:45] and i've modify the source [10:45] but when i want regenerate the source (dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S) [10:45] i've an error because the email doesn't have secret key [10:46] because is the mail of the first packager [10:46] so how could i change this please ? [10:58] add -us -uc to the command line to prevent signing [10:58] you can sign with the debsign tool if you decide you need it signed later on [10:59] thx [10:59] it works === Insup [n=mike@host81-156-44-100.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:08] Um... I created a .desktop with "Math;Science;" in Categories and it doesn't show up in the menu (it's supposed to be under Other, righ? ). changing it to e.g. "system" fixes this ... [11:09] crimsun: ping? === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kyral_ [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:16] LaserJock: pong [11:19] crimsun: I was wondering about (w)(x)maxima [11:20] if uploads are still permitted, using non-gcl per reports is preferable [11:21] do you have any time to try it? [11:21] building or testing? I have a presentation tomorrow. [11:22] building, but I can try to do it if you are busy [11:22] please do, ping me if you run into something === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["chapo] === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:33] crimsun: is there a preference for cmucl or clisp, they both reportedly work [11:34] LaserJock: whichever is easier (slimmer) in terms of dependencies and most compatible [11:38] hehe, well I had hoped you would know the answer to that, I don't know anything about LISP === Sp4rKy_ [n=max@lns-bzn-54-82-251-111-8.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:41] I'd go with the former looking at the bug list for both === _nicolas [n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-83-78.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu