[12:00] <ompaul> Coag, please paste the output of the following two commands into paste.ubuntu-nl.org >>sudo fdisk -l<< >>mount <<
[12:00] <graft> simian__: are you viewing the php file directly, or is it being served by apache or something?
[12:00] <Coag> good
[12:00] <richard> ok .... i got "terminal open
[12:00] <Coag> ok
[12:00] <simian__> graft: directly
[12:00] <richard> so i type 'cat /etc/fstab
[12:01] <rpdjames> Brand new user, brand new install, had to do the VESA thing to get into xserver as my ati x850 isn't being recognized or something
[12:01] <graft> simian__: yeah that ain't going to work... php has to be interpreted by your webserver in order to function
[12:01] <kayde> Coag, umm ok...
[12:01] <rpdjames> there are two different ways to install the ati drivers per the ubuntu wiki site
[12:02] <WiseOdd> hi ppl. where should i look for a ... "Linux Newbie user manual"? I'm feeling pretty lost, this being the first time EVER having instaled any form of Linux, and substituting windows completely....
[12:02] <simian__> graft: ok thanks, so I should move it to /var/www and look at local host in a browser then?
[12:02] <ompaul> rpdjames, well give us the two urls please
[12:02] <graft> simian__: yeah that'll work
[12:02] <simian__> graft: thanks
[12:02] <graft> simian__: assuming your webserver is configured to deal with php
[12:02] <invitadinho> WiseOdd  try www.easylinux.info
[12:02] <ompaul> !cli
[12:02] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[12:02] <ompaul> WiseOdd, ^^^^^^^
[12:02] <richiefrich> WiseOdd   http://ubuntuguide.org/
[12:02] <WiseOdd> thx. will do :)
[12:02] <simian__> graft: lol i'll cross that bridge when i get there
[12:02] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[12:02] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[12:03] <WiseOdd> thx. all
[12:03] <richiefrich> ompaul how are u today
[12:03] <Coag> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14807 << ompaul
[12:03] <ompaul> richiefrich, having bundles of fun
[12:03] <kayde> Coag, it says, no such directory exists...
[12:04] <richiefrich> ompaul i couldnt get that FTP server to start for that dude yesterday if wasnt in ps -A  :(
[12:04] <kayde> Coag, i have dowloaded gimpshop, photoshop interface but i cant get it to work...
[12:04] <Coag> I don't know about that kayde
[12:05] <rpdjames> Ok, the first would be here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  the second is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver
[12:05] <TheBigToe> !RestrictedFormats
[12:05] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:05] <rpdjames> then of course, you have ati'
[12:06] <rpdjames> then of course, you have ati's instructions for their drivers, so that's a third way
[12:06] <corey> just upgraded to dapper - very nice
[12:06] <richard> help
[12:06] <ompaul> Coag, there is only one other think I could suggest, restart the machine with a plan to plug it into some other usb port it might help
[12:06] <richard> need to install some plugins for VideoLan
[12:06] <marzec> corey,  how can i upgrade to dapper from breezy?
[12:07] <graft> richard: you need to provide more detail, otherwise no one can help you
[12:07] <corey> marzec: one sec
[12:07] <Hentai_Jeff> anyone know what the best PCI usb 2.0 card for linux is?
[12:08] <corey> marzec: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades?highlight=%28dapper%29
[12:08] <ompaul> rpdjames, okay thank you
[12:08] <kayde> Coag, :(
[12:08] <corey> for some reason my wireless interface is detected as "eth1"
[12:08] <Coag> ompaul: with a plan to plug it into another port?
[12:08] <rpdjames> ompaul, np
[12:08] <marzec> corey, thanks already found it. to much download volume needed for taht :) i'd just love to upgrade my 32-bit kernel to amd64 in breezy but nobody knows how :/
[12:09] <richard> damn
[12:09] <richard> ive done something
[12:09] <richard> Cannot launch entry error message
[12:09] <richard> Failed to change to director /home/richard (Permission denied
[12:11] <TheBigToe> Java won't work in firefox 1.5 for me
[12:11] <richard> I managed to access the other drive .... but in the process messed up access to the other one
[12:11] <AlfredJK> Hi there, i have a little problem... xorg and memory..
[12:11] <TheBigToe> I've reinstalled the mozilla plugin, the blackdown installer and the normal java package
[12:11] <TheBigToe> Java won't work in firefox 1.5 for me
[12:11] <Jazznite> Good Day to All
[12:11] <AlfredJK> here is the result opt de 'top' commando.    8849 root      15   0 1612m 699m 1352 S  3.5 69.3  29:59.43 Xorg
[12:12] <AlfredJK> and 25742 root      15   0 1438m 620m 3828 S  3.0 61.4  38:15.68 Xorg
[12:12] <sflash> for some reason my user doesnt have access to sudo
[12:12] <sflash> and also i noticed that all my groups i belong to are all gone
[12:12] <AlfredJK> 1500 mbye of ram for xorg is a little too much..
[12:12] <squiddle> AlfredJK  no
[12:12] <octan> hi all..
[12:12] <octan> im having some problems.
[12:13] <Jazznite> Any one to help, I have conflict whit DVD, ant Tip??
[12:13] <octan> my disks keep falling out after a while
[12:13] <octan> i mean like dissapare
[12:13] <TheBigToe> Java won't work in firefox 1.5 for me. I've reinstalled the mozilla plugin, the blackdown installer and the normal java package but it still won't work
[12:13] <octan> i need to power off.
[12:13] <sflash> anyone have any idea what happened or how i can get back into all the groups i was in?
[12:13] <octan> then,, not even bios finds then
[12:13] <Godfather--> hello
[12:13] <AlfredJK> to: squiddle   no ?!
[12:13] <octan> if i have my pc off for 2-3 min,, and power up again
[12:13] <squiddle> AlfredJK  those numbers are coffe-guessed and include for example all the mapped files since process start
[12:13] <octan> they come back
[12:13] <octan> what might be wrong?
[12:13] <Godfather--> i cant install the nvidia driver, in fact, i cant set up the xserver without vesa
[12:14] <richard> help!!
[12:14] <corey> is it ok for my wireless interface to be detected as eth1?
[12:14] <richard> i cannot access drives
[12:14] <octan> im suspecting the mobo ide controller
[12:14] <marzec> could someone try this: apt-cache search linux-amd64-k8 and send me his /etc/apt/sources.list file via pastebin if this spit out a result? pretty please with a cherry on top :)
[12:14] <rpdjames> I'm right there with ya Godfather, but I'm on the ATI end
[12:14] <FeestBijtje> any one knows how to mount trough FSTAB an new hard drive its an EXT3 Partition 80GB
[12:14] <richard> i go to sysem
[12:14] <trpr42> corey: should be perfectly fine.. alot of people like having it named wlan0 but it doesn't really matter
[12:14] <richard> disks
[12:14] <richard> and it says cannot lauch entry
[12:14] <AlfredJK> to squiddle: and the command 'free' gives a swap partion of 900Mbyte: 100 of less free ! with 5.10 there was no problem
[12:14] <Jazznite> I can have the screen of the DVD any tip??
[12:14] <corey> well it was wlan0 til i upgraded to dapper
[12:15] <ompaul> !xgl
[12:15] <ubotu> xgl is, like, totally, "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[12:15] <ompaul> *** note URL CHANGE for xgl ***
[12:15] <Coag> ompaul
[12:15] <TheBigToe> Java won't work in firefox 1.5 for me. I've reinstalled the mozilla plugin, the blackdown installer and the normal java package but it still won't work
[12:15] <Coag> I don't understand what you meant, reboot with it plugged in?
[12:15] <ompaul> Coag, no, reboot, with it plugged out (the mp3) player
[12:15] <Chri[s] > how do i run gphoto2
[12:16] <squiddle> AlfredJK  hmm do you have any problems? like a lot of swapping?
[12:16] <richard> HELP
[12:16] <FeestBijtje> any one knows how to mount trough FSTAB an new hard drive its an EXT3 Partition 80GB
[12:16] <TheBigToe> Java won't work in firefox 1.5 for me. I've reinstalled the mozilla plugin, the blackdown installer and the normal java package but it still won't work, anyone know what I should do to get it working?
[12:16] <richard> ive managed to lock my self out of menus
[12:16] <ompaul> Chri[s] , you need to isntall it, you need universe repos for this
[12:17] <Godfather--> "Error : API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7174, but this x module has the version 1.0-7667. Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version" i get this error
[12:17] <AlfredJK> yes.. after 1.5 - 2 days xorg is freezing for 5 - 10 seconds and going on and the system is very slow
[12:17] <Chri[s] > ompaul, i have it installed gphoto2 in console just prints out a menu
[12:17] <Jazznite> any help on DVD's???please
[12:18] <Godfather--> hello ?
[12:18] <squiddle> !tell FeestBijtje partitions
[12:18] <squiddle> !partitions
[12:18] <ubotu> Go to System -> Administration -> Disks and enter your password. Pick the disk your partition is on from the list, then click the 'Partitions' tab. Select the partition you want to mount, set an access path (mount point) and click 'Enable'.
[12:18] <graft> Jazznite: what are you trying to do?
[12:18] <graft> richard: just reboot, man
[12:18] <richard> ok
[12:19] <trpr42> Godfather--: you need help interpreting the error? nvidia driver is composed of a kernel module and some userspace stuff... error is stelling you that the two parts are not the same version.. as if you got them from two different sources
[12:19] <protito> hi, can someone help me with the sound on via 3285?
[12:19] <TheBigToe>  Java won't work in firefox 1.5 for me. I've reinstall ed the mozilla plugin, the blackdown inst aller and the n ormal java package but it still won't work, anyone know what I should d o to get it working?
[12:19] <Jazznite> graft i have conflict whit medeia 10 and the other program, and NO DVD
[12:19] <ompaul> Chri[s] , that is what it is supposed to do, your looking for a gui front end?
[12:19] <graft> Jazznite: um, that makes no sense to me at all...
[12:19] <sflash> anyway to rollback my ubuntu server? my user cant sudo anymore and my groups dissapeared
[12:20] <TheBigToe> will anyone help me?
[12:20] <Chri[s] > ompaul, yes
[12:20] <Jazznite> well the screen shows but in a moment  quits
[12:20] <sflash> is there anyway i can login as root?
[12:20] <TheBigToe> will ANYone help me?
[12:20] <LeoStewart> Does anyone know why ubuntu doesn't detect my floppy drive?
[12:20] <RemyLaptop> hi guys, I'm having some issues trying to get the ubuntu updates to run at a certain time.  I'm using the "at" command to set it to run at 1am , but it doesn't seem to be working.  I run the command "at 1am -f timedupdates" where timedupdates just contains the line apt-get update
[12:20] <LeoStewart> it's the only thing ubuntu hasn't detected...
[12:21] <Kyral> LeoStewart: you have the cable in upside down?
[12:21] <graft> Jazznite: can you start from the very beginning? what screen? where? what DVD? are you playing it somewhere? with what? etc.
[12:21] <Kyral> <[12:21] <TheBigToe> Will anyone help me with this I need it really badu
[12:21] <RemyLaptop> does anyone have any ideas, or any suggestions for how I can troubleshoot why it's not actually updating ?
[12:21] <TheBigToe> ?
[12:21] <LeoStewart> Kyral: well, windowsXP detected the floppy drive perfectly.
[12:21] <Godfather--> trpr42, what should i do ?
[12:21] <Kyral> LeoStewart: dunnot hen
[12:21] <TheBigToe> anyone?
[12:21] <ompaul> Chri[s] , back in two minutes need to check a web page
[12:21] <LeoStewart> Kyral oh well, thanks.
[12:22] <Jazznite> Ok the DVD media 10 dont show the screen command
[12:22] <TheBigToe> any one help Me?
[12:22] <Godfather--> trpr42, i dl the lastest version from nvidia.com and it was installed ok (1.0-8762)
[12:22] <Godfather--> but when i try startx the error appears
[12:22] <TheBigToe> anyone help me please?
[12:22] <Jazznite> and the DVD are clean
[12:22] <sybariten> hm, anybody know any video-related channels on this network ?
[12:22] <TheBigToe> ANYONE help me please?
[12:22] <RemyLaptop> TheBigToe - you're much more likely to get help by waiting than by spamming...
[12:22] <trpr42> Godfather--: that is odd.. so you installed the driver.. you rebooted and you get that error?
[12:22] <graft> Jazznite: are you sure you shouldn't be in another language channel? if your english is not so good
[12:22] <TheBigToe> I've waited all day
[12:23] <Godfather--> trpr42, yes
[12:23] <RemyLaptop> !tell TheBigToe about java
[12:23] <Jazznite> upps sorry, any spanish??
[12:23] <RemyLaptop> have you read that page ?
[12:23] <RemyLaptop> !tell Jazznite about es
[12:23] <Godfather--> trpr42, will u like to try via ssh ?
[12:23] <TheBigToe> !javadebs
[12:23] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[12:23] <graft> !es
[12:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:24] <Godfather--> im afraid i cant install it
[12:24] <trpr42> Godfather--: how did you install? you used a package / apt-get, or you fetched the driver and compiled it yourself?
[12:24] <TheBigToe> RemyLaptop, I've downloaded 1.4
[12:24] <trpr42> Godfather--: no thanks. i don't even trust myself. i wouldn't trust anyone on irc with that if i were you
[12:24] <Harold_P> Rapidshare sucks. :(
[12:24] <Godfather--> trpr42, i dl a .run, sh nvidia*.run and then i reboot
[12:24] <ompaul> Chri[s] , I can't one for gnome but there is this: kamera it is going to install a fair bit of stuff but it should end up on your menu and be handy enough to use
[12:25] <Jazznite> Merci to all!!
[12:25] <richiefrich> Godfather-- u can do it really simple -->  make a user account for someone and tell them to screen then u screen -x  and watch what they do
[12:25] <richiefrich> Godfather-- that why u see all what they do :~)
[12:25] <Godfather--> richiefrich,  :) and another option is vnc i think
[12:26] <Godfather--> but my driver nvidia doesnt work very well xD
[12:26] <protito> sound via 8235??? someone?? help pls
[12:26] <richiefrich> Godfather-- u dont want vnc, not like that
[12:27] <Godfather--> richiefrich, if you connect via ssh to my pc, i put screen -x i'll what you're typing ?
[12:28] <david__> join #(k)ubuntu-fr@irc.freenode.net
[12:28] <MetaMorfoziS> good night all [kshutdown @ 20min] 
[12:28] <Harold_P> lol.
[12:29] <richiefrich> Godfather-- if u have screen installed then u can attach to there session
[12:29] <motin> hey, is it possible to ignore a broken package? It is ntp-server that cannot be uninstalled and is thus broken, and this has me not being able to install or update _any_ packages for some reason..
[12:29] <Godfather--> whats 'screen' ? a package ?
[12:30] <marzec> hm i just downloaded the package by hand and tried to install it
[12:30] <marzec> linux-amd64-k8 that is
[12:30] <ollo82> is there a history about the things apt do?
[12:30] <richiefrich> Godfather-- yes
[12:31] <marzec> with the result that dpkg told me to fuck of cause the package architecture (amd64) is different from the installed architecture ( i386 ), so... how could i upgrade from i368 to amd64?
[12:31] <Anusien> mumbles: are you on dapper or breezy?
[12:31] <Jazznite> kubuntu_es
[12:31] <sflash> anyway to give me back my sudo power?
[12:31] <sflash> i cant run sudo
[12:31] <richiefrich> Godfather--   u  can test it -->  screen -> in another term -> screen -x
[12:31] <graft> marzec: clearly, you should get the i386 version of the package, eh
[12:31] <richiefrich> sflash what u do to sudo ?
[12:32] <Marcus> hi can someone help me with dvd playback/
[12:32] <richiefrich> sflash can u get root access at all?
[12:32] <motin> ollo82: yeah there is, it is somewhere under /var i think
[12:32] <Godfather--> richiefrich, i see :) n1 :D
[12:32] <sflash> richiefrich: nothing, i created a ftp-users group, added my self to it, then all my group dissapeared i was joined to
[12:32] <ollo82> if found it, thx
[12:32] <marzec> graft,  the problem is there does not seem to be such a package. all i want to do is upgrade my i386 kernel to a amd64 one
[12:32] <marzec> which seems to be impossible...
[12:32] <sflash> richiefrich: and i cant sudo
[12:33] <richiefrich> sflash u must of did something,  can u go back to a login screen and login as root
[12:33] <Godfather--> trpr42, any idea?
[12:33] <richiefrich> Ctrl+Alt+F2
[12:33] <sflash> richiefrich: it wont let me login as root
[12:33] <Marcus> do i need an internet connection to be able to install with sudo?
[12:33] <sflash> richiefrich: says access denied
[12:33] <richiefrich> sflash not in X
[12:33] <Marcus> everytime i try to install something it says cant find packages
[12:33] <richiefrich> sflash  i mean in console
[12:34] <LeoStewart> could someone please tell me how to make a floppy .img file?
[12:34] <sflash> richiefrich: im usiing putty right now on my laptop. should i go on the box and logout and login as root?
[12:34] <trpr42> Godfather--: well. i would try killing X / xdm if they are going.. try starting X with startx.. i'd check to there aren't any packaged versions of the driver installed... if so i'd remove them and then attempt to compile the driver again
[12:34] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, who do I suggest a feature for ubuntu to ?
[12:34] <graft> marzec: i assume you have a 64-bit machine
[12:34] <sflash> richiefrich: my box is text only, server installation
[12:34] <richiefrich> sflash yes but in console
[12:34] <Marcus> im not sure graft
[12:34] <trpr42> Godfather--: its a wierd error. never encountered it. i have always ended up solving my nvidia problems through painful trial and error :(
[12:34] <Marcus> its dell latitude d505
[12:35] <sflash> richiefrich: it is in console
[12:35] <Godfather--> trpr42, oks :(
[12:35] <richiefrich> sflash  ok then try to login as roolt
[12:36] <graft> err... Marcus i was talking to marzec ...
[12:36] <Marcus> yea my bad lol
[12:36] <trpr42> Godfather--: i believe its recommended that you use the packaged version anyways.. something about nvidias official version replacing libraries. in all cases i believe using the packaged version is recommended over what you are doing
[12:36] <kbrooks> What will Dapper have?
[12:36] <Marcus> can someone help me with dvd and video
[12:36] <sidewinder_> Alguien de Chile ?
[12:36] <Godfather--> trpr42, a packaged version is nvidia-glx ?
[12:36] <ompaul> !es
[12:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:36] <sidewinder_> quien habla espaol ?
[12:36] <marzec> graft, yes of course amd 64 :)
[12:36] <sflash> richiefrich: also says access denied
[12:36] <richiefrich> sflash  add this line to --> USER    ALL=(ALL) ALL  <-- too --> /etc/sudoers
[12:37] <richiefrich> sflash then do it on a LiveCD
[12:37] <trpr42> Godfather--: yes. something put together by the ubuntu team from what nvidia gives you
[12:37] <marzec> graft,  i just read that i'd have to basically install any 386 related package again with it's 64-bit version
[12:37] <sflash> richiefrich: i dont think i can edit that file, i dont have permission and sudo wont let me
[12:37] <marzec> to much of a hazzle
[12:37] <Godfather--> trpr42, doesnt work
[12:37] <mumbles--out> ok question - i have just installed ubuntu 5.10 on my desktop
[12:37] <richiefrich> sflash on a live CD u do
[12:37] <Godfather--> trpr42, i think the problem is the fucking dapper drake
[12:37] <mumbles--out> and my spash screen dosent get past boot
[12:37] <sidewinder_> quien habla espaol ?
[12:37] <Godfather--> on previusly versions i have no problems
[12:37] <Kyral> !es
[12:37] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:37] <mumbles--out> i have installed the nvidia driver as well so i relay dot know whats up
[12:38] <sidewinder_> mm?
[12:38] <sflash> richiefrich: ok, i have to burn a ubuntu live cd?
[12:38] <bobbyd> hi
[12:38] <richiefrich> sflash use any liveCD
[12:38] <Godfather--> mumbles--out, on dapper ?
[12:38] <sflash> richiefrich: I just have the installation breezy badger one
[12:38] <mumbles--out> i guess so
[12:38] <Godfather--> from nvidia.com ?
[12:38] <mumbles--out> i had my ubuntu cds come yesterday
[12:38] <bobbyd> is there some app that will draw an ER graph of an SQL schema in the repositories?
[12:38] <mumbles--out> Godfather-- from apt-get install
[12:38] <trpr42> Godfather--: is nvidia-glx installed? if you are compiling from nvidia, that is the first thing you want to remove
[12:38] <richiefrich> sflash i like knoppix for most of that, or the gentoo one, it doesnt have X (gentoo on)
[12:39] <flaek> can someone help me get my wireless card working, i did iwconfig and wifi0 and wlan0 comes up but wlan0 has more information, do i use that? then i did iwlist wlan0 scan and nothing came up
[12:39] <mumbles--out> i used http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#nvidia-driver
[12:39] <Godfather--> trpr42, i tried with/without this package
[12:39] <Godfather--> mumbles--out, let me see that link, 1 moment
[12:39] <sflash> richiefrich: what will the knoppix let me do? I can add user groups to my account then?
[12:40] <richiefrich> sflash same as any of them u can edit that file
[12:40] <sflash> richiefrich: also root account has only root as grooup
[12:40] <Godfather--> Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
[12:40] <Godfather-->   nvidia-glx: Entra en conflicto: nvidia-settings pero 1.0-3ubuntu7 va a ser instalado
[12:40] <sflash> ok
[12:40] <trpr42> Godfather--: maybe it will be fixed in a week. optimisitc
[12:40] <corey> can someone help me, i upgraded to dapper and now network-manager wont show my wireless device
[12:40] <Godfather--> i dont think so
[12:41] <mumbles--out> trpr42 same
[12:41] <mumbles--out> hahah
[12:41] <RemyLaptop> !gaim
[12:41] <ubotu> methinks gaim is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto
[12:41] <mumbles--out> lots of nvida questions here :p
[12:41] <Godfather--> or my nvidia 6800gs its not supported.
[12:42] <trpr42> Godfather--: you said previous installations of the driver were working.. couldn't be that
[12:42] <flaek> can someone help me get my wireless card working, i did iwconfig and wifi0 and wlan0 comes up but wlan0 has more information, do i use that? then i did iwlist wlan0 scan and nothing came up
[12:42] <Godfather--> trpr42, yes, but on hoary and breezy, not on dapper
[12:43] <ompaul> corey, please go to #ubuntu+1 the dapper channel
[12:43] <Marcus> does anyone know how to install a highspeed dsl modem on usb?
[12:43] <richard> hey
[12:43] <flaek> anyone willing to help me ^^
[12:43] <Marlun> where is apache2 isntalled by default if you use apt-get?
[12:43] <Marcus> or ethernet
[12:43] <richard> im struggling with gaining access to slave disk
[12:43] <richard> i can find it with disk manager
[12:43] <ttjdfhwwnn> u
[12:44] <richard> but i dont know what to set it as with access path
[12:44] <richard> every time i mess with it i lock myself out of the system
[12:44] <gambit> /dev/hdb?
[12:44] <sflash> richiefrich: so when i pop in a livecd, i actually boot to my box as admin? that would be rad. I need to put all my groups back. anycommand that will list all the groups on the system?
[12:45] <ompaul> Marlun, this is what you asked but I think you want to actually ask another question: /usr/sbin/apache2 : maybe the answer to the other one is /etc/apache2 or /var/www/
[12:45] <richard> /dev/hdb1
[12:45] <richard> thats the device
[12:45] <richiefrich> sflash no just edit the file
[12:45] <Marlun> ompaul: yeah thank, I just found it myself :)
[12:45] <graft> richard: where are you mounting it?
[12:45] <richiefrich> sflash /etc/group
[12:45] <richard> well i put in /
[12:46] <richard> in access path
[12:46] <sflash> richiefrich: thanks dude
[12:46] <richard> it says accessible ..... but i cant find files
[12:46] <richiefrich> sflash np
[12:46] <richard> i can browse them
[12:46] <mumbles> i cant get my graphics card working
[12:46] <richard> but i want an easy way to access them from desktop
[12:46] <mutante> richard: you should not mount to / :p
[12:47] <richard> ok
[12:47] <richard> so mount to where then
[12:47] <Marcus> whenever i run sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 it gives me "libdvdcss2 has  no installation canidate"
[12:47] <mutante> richard: that is like if you connected a new disk in windows and told it to be C:
[12:47] <salah> any idea to a good html/php editor?
[12:47] <Marcus> do i need to be connected to the internet?
[12:47] <richard> ok ..... so mount it as what
[12:47] <mutante> richard: to any directory you want in theory, usually people create a directory in /mnt/
[12:47] <richard> all i know is that the device is /dev/hdb1
[12:48] <richard> no file in mind
[12:48] <sflash> sudo useradd -g ftp-users -d /home/ftp-docs siavash
[12:48] <richard> i just want to access it like with windows
[12:48] <sflash> thats what i did
[12:48] <richard> create a short cut to desktop
[12:48] <mutante> richard: mkdir /mnt/anythingyouwant
[12:48] <sflash> it gave me an error, user exists, but my groups were gone
[12:48] <mutante> richard: mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/anythingyouwant
[12:48] <richard> via diskmanager?
[12:48] <richard> access path
[12:49] <richard> or via terminal
[12:49] <sflash> i probably shouldve used usermod command, i didnt know what i was doing. I cant believe that would kill my groups though
[12:49] <mutante> both would work
[12:49] <mutante> just make a directory first as mountpoint
[12:49] <mutante> and then choose that
[12:49] <RemyLaptop> hey hi guys, how can I check what processes are running on the system ?
[12:50] <graft> RemyLaptop: top, or ps
[12:50] <corey> can someone help me figure out why my wifi interface isnt showing up in networkmanager?
[12:50] <corey> it worked before i upgraded to dapper
[12:51] <odat> whats the page where i can get a default repos list
[12:51] <graft> corey: is the interface recognized at all by the system? like is it in 'iwconfig'?
[12:51] <Mysta_> hey guys, is there a way to find out what all the available groups (for permissions) are via the terminal????
[12:52] <corey> yep
[12:52] <GMullen> why wont vim let me edit
[12:52] <odat>  whats the page where i can get a default repos list
[12:52] <richiefrich> GMullen it will
[12:52] <Mysta_> GMullen: what are you trying 2 edit?
[12:52] <Anusien> GMullen: is it a read-only file?  Are you in insert mode?
[12:52] <mutante> Mysta_: alll the groups the current user is in: type "groups"
[12:52] <GMullen> from root    vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:53] <GMullen> no i'm not in insert mode
[12:53] <mutante> Mysta_: or all groups that exist ? cat /etc/group
[12:53] <Anusien> You have to get into insert mode to add text
[12:53] <Mysta_> mutante: thx
[12:53] <GMullen> how do i switch to insert mode
[12:53] <Anusien> GMullen: Open up vi and type :tutorial
[12:53] <Mysta_> !vim
[12:53] <ubotu> I guess vim is A great text editor, some would say the best. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VimHowto
[12:54] <scottdotmaccallu> emacs has a nice turorial
[12:54] <roast> !emacs
[12:54] <ubotu> hmm... emacs is a text editor made by GNU. Some praise it as the world's best
[12:54] <lewix> how can I know if my computer has blutooh
[12:54] <corey> graft: it shows up as 'eth1' just not in network-manager
[12:54] <roast> ...
[12:54] <roast> some? :P
[12:54] <odat>  whats the page where i can get a default repos list
[12:54] <Mysta_> lewix: ask your manufacturer
[12:54] <Anusien> lewix: you mean bluetooth?
[12:54] <mumbles> ok - my computers freazing pass boot
[12:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell odat about sources
[12:55] <gnomefreak> odat: your pm will have them in it
[12:55] <lewix> Anusien, yep my bad
[12:55] <lewix> Mysta_, :)
[12:55] <mumbles> i have installed nvida drivers but they dont work
[12:56] <mutante> lewix: search for the term in the output of "lspci" maybe
[12:56] <Anusien> mumbles: What version of Ubuntu, what version of the drivers, what chip are you running, what architecture are you running?
[12:56] <mumbles> 5.10 - the drivers from apt-get update nvida-common
[12:57] <lewix> mutante, thanks
[12:57] <mumbles> geforce 6800 i think
[12:57] <Anusien> mumbles: I think you want: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:57] <joemac> hi all
[12:57] <HiHello> I had the same problem,try the vesa in reconfigure xorg etc
[12:57] <HiHello> Mumbles
[12:57] <mumbles> i cant get into the user window to do that
[12:58] <HiHello> YOu get the garbage display?
[12:59] <jorvis_> just installed ubuntu for the first time (5.10 amd64), what package is 'ld' in?
[12:59] <mumbles> i get the fuzzy pattern and thats it
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> !b-e
[12:59] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[12:59] <HiHello> You can get there mumbles
[12:59] <Marcus> why when i run sudo apt-get install does it give me  "couldnt find packages"
[12:59] <HiHello> I cant remeber how though
[01:00] <Marcus> do i need to connect to the internet to install ?
[01:00] <hollerith> jorvis_: can you get 64bit ubuntu?
[01:00] <mumbles> i booted up in safe mode
[01:00] <lewix> i want my desktop to look awsome ..do you have suggestions?
[01:00] <jorvis_> hollerith: it's on their site, yes
[01:00] <hollerith> fvwm
[01:00] <skippy> lewix: xgl/compiz
[01:00] <lewix> skippy, meaning?
[01:00] <Marcus> do you mean like a background lewix
[01:00] <ompaul> !compiz
[01:00] <ubotu> Compiz is a compositing manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. See http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz -- Installation howto's:   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.
[01:00] <hollerith> jorvis_:sweet!
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> lewix,  seek professional help.
[01:01] <skippy> you get some amazing effects lewiz
[01:01] <hollerith> I notice ubuntu is one of the first distros to offer xorg 7 too!
[01:01] <hollerith> jelly windows!
[01:01] <lewix> Marcus, yep
[01:01] <skippy> i recommend you start by searching the ubuntu forums lewix
[01:01] <Marcus> www.deviantart.com lewix
[01:01] <LeoStewart> could someone tell me how to make a disk image file out of my floppy?
[01:01] <LeoStewart> please?
[01:01] <Marcus> they have alot of sweet backgrounds
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> dd if=/dev/floppy of=floppy.img
[01:02] <lewix> thank you Marcus
[01:02] <lewix> thank you skippy
[01:02] <skippy> gnome-look.org is good also
[01:02] <skippy> loads of premade themes
[01:02] <LeoStewart> dr_willis: thanks. :)
[01:02] <Marcus> my background is Devil_by_SphinxSfenks
[01:02] <skippy> when you get more comfortable, then move onto xgl/compiz, you will need a fairly modern gfx card though
[01:02] <jorvis_> after a new install, is it best to grab vid drivers from Nvidia?
[01:03] <Harold_P> www.art.gnome.org
[01:03] <Marcus> can someone help me get totem working
[01:03] <Marcus> it says i need to install plugins and codecs to get video
[01:03] <jorvis_> Harold_P: that url doesn't work
[01:03] <skippy> jorvis_, are you on dapperdrake?
[01:03] <jorvis_> skippy: 5.10
[01:03] <Marcus> but sudo apt-get install always gives me a "cant find packages"
[01:03] <lewix> Marcus, I couldnt get it to work so I abandonned and I installed mplayer
[01:04] <Marcus> how do you lewix
[01:04] <LeoStewart> dr_willis: it didn't seem to work.  /dev/floppy isn't a directory.  and when i tried /media/floppy and /media/floppy0, the .img file was 0 bytes.
[01:04] <Marcus> can you help me
[01:04] <LeoStewart> any suggestions?
[01:04] <Harold_P> jorvis: for some reason www. in front of the url makes it not load, just type art.gnome.org
[01:04] <Marcus> i want to be able to watch dvd
[01:04] <lewix> marcus: how do I what?
[01:04] <jorvis_> Marcus: use ogle
[01:04] <Marcus> install mplayer
[01:04] <Marcus> where can i get it?
[01:04] <hollerith> LeoStewart: yuo mean an iso?
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> LeoStewart,  /media/anything is NOT what you want - you want the actual device for the floppy
[01:04] <skippy> jorvis_ try method 1 in this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=nvidia+breezy
[01:04] <lewix> marcus: apt-get install mplayer
[01:05] <jorvis_> though I haven't got dvd playback to work well yet (just installed today)
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> LeoStewart,  look for like /dev/fd*
[01:05] <Marcus> i cant use apt-get
[01:05] <Marcus> i already tried install it
[01:05] <Marcus> but it gives me "cant find packages"
[01:05] <admiral_proFTW> use adpt
[01:05] <Marcus> or couldnt stat source package
[01:05] <admiral_proFTW> Adpt
[01:05] <LeoStewart> dr_willis will do. thanks.
[01:05] <admiral_proFTW> Marcus: open up adept or synaptic
[01:05] <Harold_P> jorvis_, did it work?
[01:05] <skippy> marcus, have you added extra repositories yet?
[01:05] <ryanr> how does one mount an ext3 partition as read/write for all users?
[01:06] <Marcus> the multiverse universe?
[01:06] <Marcus> i think so
[01:06] <jorvis_> Harold_P: did what work?
[01:06] <skippy> ok good
[01:06] <Marcus> im not sure though
[01:06] <skippy> synaptic is your best place to get started
[01:06] <Harold_P> jorvis_ art.gnome.org
[01:06] <jorvis_> ah, yes
[01:06] <Marcus> do i need an internet conenction to install packages?
[01:06] <Marcus> cause i dont have a modem for this laptop yet
[01:06] <skippy> yes marcus
[01:06] <hollerith> /dev/fd0 ususally to /mnt/floppy or ubuntu /media/somehting
[01:07] <skippy> but you can download them, but to do so you need to know the dependancys
[01:07] <Marcus> i have a dsl external modem that connects by ethernet or usb
[01:07] <hollerith> I can't believe people still use 3.5 inch
[01:07] <Marcus> but im not sure if i can get it working for ubuntu
[01:07] <admiral_proFTW> i do! how else can i transfer data?
[01:07] <skippy> ok marcus http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ has all the files stored
[01:07] <mutante> ryanr: by adding "users" and "rw"into the /etc/fstab line
[01:07] <skippy> you can transfer them on a pendrive or a cd, but its a real hassle
[01:07] <Marcus> which one do i get
[01:07] <mumbles> argh - nothing works
[01:08] <ryanr> mutante: thats what i thought, and tried..but I still get permission denied...
[01:08] <skippy> marcus remind me what you wanted to get working again pls
[01:08] <LeoStewart> Dr_Willis: worked like a charm, thanks mate! :)
[01:08] <ryanr> I will try again tho
[01:08] <Marcus> video
[01:08] <Marcus> mplayer
[01:08] <Marcus> i just want to watch dvd and video
[01:08] <admiral_proFTW> use a pen? how does that work?
[01:08] <skippy> ok are you using dapper or breezy?
[01:08] <Marcus> breezy i think
[01:08] <mutante> ryanr: even if the user is mouting it himself?
[01:08] <Marcus> im not real sure this is my first linux distro
[01:08] <skippy> marcus, hold tight ill link the names of the files for you
[01:08] <Marcus> k
[01:08] <Marcus> thanks
[01:08] <mutante> ryanr: users allows the user to mount it himself
[01:09] <ryanr> ah i see
[01:09] <lewix> Marcus, http://fsiu.uwc.ac.za/kinky/index.php?module=wiki&action=wikilink&pagename=MultimediaUbuntu#toc3
[01:09] <hollerith> not everybody is allowed to mount
[01:09] <admiral_proFTW> lol
[01:09] <blah> is there anyway to run wine from a user account?
[01:09] <admiral_proFTW> i'm mature
[01:09] <blah> i need to execute it from php
[01:09] <hollerith> mee too
[01:10] <swim> hey folks, does ubuntu use /usr/local for anything?
[01:10] <Marcus> should i just download them all lewix ?
[01:10] <ryanr> mutante: even if i mount it myself (no sudo) i still get a permission denied error when trying to create a file one it
[01:10] <hollerith> user local is a good place to ln -s stuff you want to be shared by users
[01:10] <Marcus> do i need to extract them to any specific folder?
[01:10] <mutante> ryanr: hmm, then you can still try to specify uid= and gid=
[01:10] <lewix> Marcus, just follow the instructions
[01:11] <ryanr> mutante: is this correct? /dev/hda7       /media/hda7     ext3    defaults,users,rw 0 0
[01:11] <hollerith> ubotu tell hollerith about ubotu
[01:11] <lewix> I'm looking for themes for my desktop not only wallpaper
[01:11] <admiral_proFTW> ryanr: sounds about right
[01:11] <Marcus> it comes with a few
[01:11] <Marcus> there not really great though
[01:11] <ryanr> admiral_proFTW: hmmm ok
[01:11] <Marcus> i just have human
[01:11] <AngryElf> guys, i'm trying to build xine-lib and xine-ui......and ./configure for xine-ui is complaining about a linking problem saying it can't find xine-lib  I added /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf, but no luck, any ideas?
[01:11] <swim> Can anyone tell me if Ubuntu uses /usr/local? at all??
[01:12] <mutante> ryanr: im not sure about the "defaults", might try just "rw,user" there
[01:12] <blah> is there anyway i can run wine from php?
[01:12] <Marcus> did you find a cool background lewix
[01:12] <lewix> Marcus, not really, I want a them actually
[01:13] <swim> Hello???
[01:13] <Marcus> i think human looks the best out of all the ones it came with
[01:13] <Codegen2> Does anybody know how to get glib workng from source on Ubuntu?
[01:13] <Marcus> http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1525/devilbysphinxsfenks8ix.jpg
[01:13] <Marcus> thats what i have as my background
[01:13] <admiral_proFTW> swim: probably
[01:13] <d00by> is anybody here good with gambas?
[01:13] <admiral_proFTW> or it wouldn't be included
[01:13] <Marcus> but altered a little
[01:13] <admiral_proFTW> Condegen2:
[01:14] <admiral_proFTW> open up the terminal
[01:14] <hollerith> swim:my /usr/local is full of stuff
[01:14] <admiral_proFTW> cd into the directory where the source is
[01:14] <admiral_proFTW> ./configure
[01:14] <ryanr> mutante: removing defaults didnt help...and i just get errors trying to use uid and gid
[01:14] <hollerith> such as /usr/local/bin
[01:14] <jorvis_> how do I restart and prevent X from starting?  I tried 'init 3' and nothing happened.  X just restarts when you kill it manually.
[01:14] <hollerith> muchos importante
[01:15] <blah> is there anyway i can run wine from php?
[01:15] <admiral_proFTW> so "cd /home/freddy/Desktop/glib"
[01:15] <blah> wine is owned under root , can i change that?
[01:15] <Marcus> lewix, do you have to be connected to the internet to install mplayer?
[01:16] <lewix> Marcus, I guess so
[01:16] <hollerith> swim:why do you ask - attempting some rash pruning?
[01:16] <Marcus> damn
[01:16] <mutante> ryanr: uhmm,i dont really know now, sry
[01:16] <Blissex> blah: sure you can, but you need to understand very carefully the UNIX security/protection model. There are a lot of papers on it.
[01:16] <blah> thats cool
[01:16] <blah> so how do i do it
[01:16] <hollerith> blah:when you say wine is owned under root what do you mean?
[01:16] <blah> i cant execute it from php
[01:17] <Lordthund> guys.. can somebody help me with downgrading mysql-server-5.0 to -4.1
[01:17] <hollerith> how did you get it?
[01:17] <swim> hollerith: I just know that a lot of other distros dont use it at all... and I had to alien an application which isnt available... and it installed itself in /usr/local...
[01:17] <Marcus> is there anyway i can get media/dvd without an internet connection
[01:18] <hollerith> swim:its a debian thing I'm sure lots of unices use different schemes
[01:18] <mutante> Marcus: yes, shipit.ubuntu.com
[01:18] <skippy> marcus, sorry im going through these but theres just too many dependancys
[01:18] <skippy> it will be a nightmare if i try and link them all for you
[01:18] <Marcus> i went and downloaded a bunch of files
[01:18] <Napoleon> can somebody give me an example scp syntax to copy from your pwd to another host
[01:18] <Marcus> but when i try to extract them it doesnt do anything
[01:19] <mumbles> im going to go to bed
[01:19] <ryanr> mutante: i just cheated and mounted the partition with sudo then made a 777 directory in it
[01:19] <mumbles> ill sort out dirvers tomow
[01:19] <mutante> Napoleon: scp somefile user@otherhost:/home/user/
[01:19] <skippy> marcus, to extract deb files you can put them all in your home directory, then open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[01:19] <hollerith> scp you@ip-address:path/to/files you@target-ipaddress:path/to/target
[01:19] <Napoleon> mutante: thanks
[01:20] <skippy> but they all have dependancys marcus, so you will be there all night
[01:20] <Pharaoh> Ubuntu's Ubiquity looks extremely similar to Anaconda
[01:20] <Marcus> so i have to get a modem then
[01:20] <maccam94> ugh, i've got problems getting an ethernet driver working right. the card uses tulip
[01:20] <skippy> there are only 4 meta packages needed, but each is made up of at least 6 smaller ones
[01:20] <mutante> ryanr: whatever works;)
[01:20] <Pharaoh> even the image placement is identical to latest anaconda
[01:20] <skippy> yeah marcus, im afraid linux isnt a friendly OS for people without net connections
[01:20] <skippy> :(
[01:21] <Marcus> i have a dsl external modem
[01:21] <mutante> Marcus: look at the link, they send you free CDs
[01:21] <skippy> oh, well do you have a lan card marcus
[01:21] <jorvis_> anyone know how to kill X so that it doesn't automatically restart?
[01:21] <Marcus> but im not sure how i would go about installing it
[01:21] <Marcus> or if it will even work on linux
[01:21] <Marcus> its a qwuest gt701
[01:21] <maccam94> i can get the interface up and everything, but i get all these tulip errors in dmesg and it can't ping or anything
[01:21] <Marcus> nope skippy
[01:21] <Marcus> nothing
[01:21] <Marcus> im completely net connectionless
[01:21] <hollerith> jorvis_:Ctrl_Alt-Backspace should kill your session
[01:22] <jorvis_> hollerith: yes, but it immediately restarts again
[01:22] <Marcus> could i use this dsl modem?
[01:22] <skippy> yeah, doesnt it have rectangular ethernet connections coming out of the back?
[01:22] <hollerith> jorvis_:any ideas why?
[01:22] <Marcus> yea
[01:22] <skippy> if it does you can just connect to it with a lan card
[01:22] <skippy> you would need a DSL connection of course:D
[01:22] <Marcus> it connects to the phone line
[01:23] <richiefrich> DSL ?   get cable
[01:23] <jorvis_> hollerith: that's always true with X by default.  same thing happens on my laptop (gentoo) and other desktop (suse)
[01:23] <duckdown> Hey all..  I know VNC programs are a dime a dozen now, but ive never used it too often..  I need something very easy that someone could run on his Windows box and I could control it via my ubuntu
[01:23] <skippy> ok marcus, well im looking at teh specs for your modem, it has ethernet output
[01:23] <skippy> built in routing
[01:23] <skippy> so you just need to get the ethernet card in your pc working and you should be sorted
[01:23] <BioVorE> duckdown: real vnc on windows work with krfb on linux (kubuntu)
[01:23] <skippy> does your pc have a network card in it ?
[01:24] <hollerith> jorvis_:no way- I use gentoo and it just bombs to the console - how do you start x?
[01:24] <Marcus> my notebook has an ethernet slot in the back
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> duckdown,  that would be most of them. :P for a vnc client/server on windows - i tend to use 'ultravnc'  it has some nice features. (windows only)
[01:24] <skippy> ok marcus, try typing ifconfig into a terminal windows
[01:24] <lewix> how can I install theme
[01:24] <Marcus> command not found
[01:25] <jorvis_> hollerith: if I ctrl-alt-bksp on my laptop it goes to the console for about 3 seconds before restarting.
[01:25] <duckdown> Dr_Willis> yeah I run ubuntu though, so how will i connect?  Also, one that is totally idiot-proof for the guy to set up on his windows would be good
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> lewix,  depends on what its a theme for. :P ya can often open the theme manager program.. and just drag/drop the new theme to it.
[01:25] <skippy> "ifconfig" should definately be availiable on your version of ubuntu marcus
[01:25] <Marcus> i know
[01:25] <skippy> its a very basic command :D
[01:25] <Marcus> thats wierd
[01:25] <skippy> its strange
[01:25] <duckdown> BioVorE> I use gnome :(
[01:25] <hollerith> jorvis_:how do you start x? rc-update add xdm ?
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> duckdown,  kde and gnome voth have their own vnc 'clients' i recall. (called somthing like remote desktop) -   Ultra vnc is rathe reasy to set up on windows..   about as easy as any of them
[01:26] <jorvis_> hollerith: gdm, but yes
[01:26] <hollerith> remove the display manager for your default runlevel
[01:26] <mutante> Marcus are you root?
[01:26] <lewix> Dr_Willis, it's in *tar
[01:26] <Marcus> yes
[01:26] <skippy> you could try the graphical way marcus, under system you should be able to find a networking option on the gnome menu
[01:26] <hollerith> so you enter via console - use the startx script for now
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> lewix,  i ment is it an ICON theme? a desktop theme? a gtk2 theme.. ect.. :P just try the drag/drop thing/
[01:27] <Marcus> it says my eterhent connection  is not configured
[01:27] <hollerith> X is ending and then being restarted
[01:27] <Marcus> the interface eth0 is not configured*
[01:27] <skippy> thats good , it means you have one i think
[01:27] <skippy> is that coming from the graphical menu?
[01:27] <Marcus> yes
[01:28] <lewix> Dr_Willis, wheres the theme manager program?. It's a theme/styles
[01:28] <Marcus> i enabled it
[01:28] <duckdown> Dr_Willis> Hmm thanks,  I need to find this one for gnome
[01:28] <skippy> click on the picture that says ethernet
[01:28] <jorvis_> hollerith: ok, what package do you have to install to get 'rc-update'?   (I've been pretty disappointed at the default ubuntu set of system packages.  'make' isn't even there??)
[01:28] <swim> how difficult is it to create a package from an apps source code?
[01:28] <lewix> Dr_Willis, im using kde
[01:28] <tubbie> !java
[01:28] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:28] <Marcus> now i  need ip address subnet mask and gateway address
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> lewix,  there in the setting smenus some where with every other configuration program.
[01:28] <skippy> and click on the general tab and tell it to use dhcp marcus
[01:28] <Marcus> k
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> lewix,  you would pick the ONE time i am booted to gnome. :) normally i use kde.
[01:28] <skippy> then connect it to your modem with an ehternet cable and toggle deactivate and activate
[01:28] <Marcus> do i put in my host name or the host of my isp
[01:28] <hollerith> erk - sorry rc-update is gentoo I thought you were talking about your gentoo laptop
[01:28] <chavo> lewix, kde themes are different than gnome, most have to be compiled
[01:29] <skippy> marcus, dont enter any info
[01:29] <Marcus> k
[01:29] <skippy> just click on properties and select dhcp
[01:29] <Marcus> ok
[01:29] <hollerith> does ubuntu have some tool to add startups?
[01:29] <skippy> your modem has a built in router, it should give you an ip and gateway when you connect ot it
[01:29] <hollerith> init scripts
[01:29] <lewix> chavo, how do I compil it then
[01:29] <NthDegree> hollerith try bum from universe
[01:29] <skippy> hollerith, yeah i recommend bum :D
[01:30] <richiefrich> rc-update
[01:30] <hollerith> jorvis_: try bum
[01:30] <jorvis_> hollerith: I finally killed it with - /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:30] <Marcus> is that all skippy ?
[01:30] <chavo> lewix,  which theme is it?
[01:30] <Marcus> do i need to put it in a specific location or anything?
[01:30] <hollerith> as soon as you reboot you have gdm though yeh?
[01:30] <skippy> yeah marcus, just dhcp enabled, and connected to your modem
[01:30] <lewix> chavo, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26392
[01:30] <Marcus> now how can i tell if it worked?
[01:31] <skippy> it should sya "The interface eth0 is active" once the dhcp has set it up
[01:31] <hollerith> I'll bet gdm has some die parms
[01:31] <skippy> you may need to toggle deactivate and activate a bit
[01:31] <skippy> maybe even reboot
[01:31] <Marcus> it says its not active
[01:31] <skippy> is it connected to the modem?
[01:31] <Marcus> but now its configured
[01:31] <Marcus> yes
[01:31] <skippy> and is the modem on?
[01:31] <Marcus> yes
[01:32] <skippy> ok look for the green link lights, are they flashing
[01:32] <Marcus> ok its activated
[01:32] <skippy> good
[01:32] <jorvis_> oh geez, can't install the nvidia drivers because the ubuntu kernel was built with gcc 3.4 but the current gcc is 4.0.
[01:32] <skippy> grats marcus
[01:32] <skippy> your on your way to victory lol
[01:32] <Marcus> now how can i connected to the internet
[01:32] <Marcus> lol thanks
[01:32] <skippy> good :D
[01:32] <skippy> ok now it is easy for you :D
[01:33] <Harold_P> hello eeryone
[01:33] <Harold_P> everyone*
[01:33] <skippy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats marcus, step by step guide to enabling all media formats
[01:33] <hollerith> eeryone lol that 's me
[01:33] <skippy> you will need to use synaptic or apt-get to retrieve the packages
[01:33] <hollerith> spooky
[01:33] <Marcus> so now i should be able to use sudo apt get?
[01:33] <Marcus> ok
[01:33] <Harold_P> ahah.
[01:33] <skippy> yep :D
[01:33] <skippy> you will have a really fun time now your up on the net :)
[01:34] <Marcus> alright thanks for all the help
[01:34] <skippy> linux really comes into its own online
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> lewix,  just uncompress the file to some dir.. and use the kde theme manager's "install new theme button" and select the theme file
[01:34] <skippy> np mate :) glad your setup now marcus
[01:34] <chavo> lewix, you don't need to compil that one, just extract it and go into the directory then double click the tab_grey.kth file
[01:34] <bendld> can anyone help with an internet sharing problem? my ubuntu pc is connect to the internet wirelessly through an actiontec router. in addition to my wireless card i have a wired ethernet port and would like to share the internet connection with my xbox. i have tried bridgin and tried using firestarter but have not been successful.
[01:34] <Marcus> dont i need to set up a connection with my ip
[01:34] <Marcus> i dont think i've done it yet
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> heh - that is a nice kde theme. :P
[01:35] <swim> can anyone tell me what I should get to help me build a package from an apps source code please?
[01:35] <Kyral> build-essential
[01:35] <Kyral> and a want to learn
[01:35] <hollerith> benld:you should just have to plug all  into your router - no software necessary
[01:36] <swim> Kyral: how about checkinstall?
[01:36] <Kyral> ....
[01:36] <hollerith> if you have dhcp - does xbox have a dhcp-client?
[01:36] <Kyral> swim: don't say that word near me again
[01:36] <bendld> the reason for wanting this setup is so that i can have my xbox in my room (far away from the router) and still play live and ftp
[01:36] <nickrud> rflol
[01:36] <skippy> yes xbox has a dhcp client
[01:36] <Kyral> I am netorious for despising it
[01:36] <swim> Kyral: thats what I thought but people on debian suggested I use that
[01:36] <hollerith> xbox is wireless?
[01:37] <bendld> and i dont have a wireless adapter for the xbox
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> Ive never heard of any issues with checkinstall. :P lol.
[01:37] <Kyral> swim: use it, but ONLY for packages you will use only yourself
[01:37] <Kyral> Dr_Willis: for personal use its fine
[01:37] <Kyral> but for making packs for other people no way
[01:37] <lewix> Dr_Willis, thans
[01:37] <hollerith> so you run cat5 to the xbox nic to your router and ...
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> ($(@*@ everyone else. :P lol
[01:37] <nickrud> it's so damn dependent upon your local packages
[01:37] <skippy> bendld, have your tried firestarters internet connection "wizard" thing?
[01:38] <bendld> yeah
[01:38] <swim> Kyral: is there something else as simple as checkinstall that is better?
[01:38] <skippy> what you want to do is possible in theory, your linux box can serve the dhcp to the xbox
[01:38] <lewix> Chavo, thanks i'm going to see if it works. What will i have to do if I find theme that i have to compil
[01:38] <Kyral> swim: if you want to just install the program, the configure make make install dance is fine
[01:38] <chavo> lewix, the window decorations and the widget styles need to be compiled
[01:38] <bendld> i have tried using dhcp server as well as setting a static ip
[01:38] <skippy> bendld, i just had a thought
[01:38] <skippy> you may need a crossover cable
[01:39] <bendld> i have one
[01:39] <skippy> rather tahn a straigh
[01:39] <skippy> oh i see
[01:39] <lewix> chavo, I saw install kde them and then nothing
[01:39] <swim> Kyral: I would but I've also learned not to do that on a binary distro
[01:39] <bendld> i have tried both regular cat5 and crossover
[01:39] <blaze> maby it's a very stupid question but tell me.. who of you prefer gnome, and who kde, and whY? (please :) )
[01:39] <Harold_P> oh, the things we do for eye candy.
[01:39] <Harold_P> u
[01:39] <Kyral> swim: why not?
[01:39] <skippy> blaze. gnome is more simple IMO
[01:39] <blaze> and what is IM0 ? :)
[01:40] <Kyral> on Debian based systems, /usr/local is a no touch place for Apt-Get
[01:40] <skippy> in my opinion
[01:40] <skippy> :D
[01:40] <blaze> :D
[01:40] <Kyral> luckly most apps install there by default :P
[01:40] <hollerith> benld:xbox does have a dhcp-client running?
[01:40] <blaze> are there workspaces in kde?
[01:40] <Kyral> blaze: you mean multiple desktops?
[01:40] <skippy> yes blaze, its very similar to gnome really
[01:40] <Kyral> look on your kicker :P
[01:40] <skippy> since they are both x environments
[01:40] <bendld> yes
[01:40] <blaze> i see skippy :)
[01:40] <swim> oh btw Kyral I forgot what I was doing the app is actually Filezilla... not igloo
[01:41] <h3sp4wn> Kyral: You know if arch current has xorg 7.1 yet ?
[01:41] <Kyral> uhh
[01:41] <Kyral> mebbe
[01:41] <skippy> blaze, if you liked windows 98 then gnome is for the win :)
[01:41] <blaze> and skippy, are you using gnome?
[01:41] <Kyral> check it out :P
[01:41] <hollerith> on xbox you can do ipconfig
[01:41] <skippy> yes blaze
[01:41] <lewix> chavo, I guess the theme is installed but where should i go to get it
[01:41] <skippy> i prefer gnome, i find kde is a bit of an overload
[01:41] <lewix> chavo, to set it up
[01:41] <bendld> the dashboard is unleashx
[01:41] <nickrud> h3sp4wn, maybe for eft
[01:41] <chavo> lewix, it's in the Theme manager
[01:41] <blaze> and is it allright if i use both kde and gnome?
[01:41] <Kyral> blaze: yes
[01:41] <blaze> i mean to have them both
[01:41] <lewix> chavo, i cant find it
[01:42] <blaze> oh, ok :)
[01:42] <skippy> yes mate, its very easy
[01:42] <nickrud> blaze, defintly
[01:42] <blaze> :D
[01:42] <blaze> 10x to all
[01:42] <hollerith> bendld:you can see the interface?
[01:42] <Kyral> I think at one point I had KDE, GNOME, XFCE, Enlightenment, Openbox, FVWM, and Fluxbox installed
[01:42] <neil__> hi
[01:42] <blaze> Kyral, :D
[01:42] <skippy> hehe kyral yeah ive had a fair few before
[01:42] <nickrud> Kyral, you missed blackbox, what's wrong with you :)
[01:43] <Kyral> That would have been overkill
[01:43] <skippy> its like taking a little holiday from gnome :)
[01:43] <Kyral> I use KDE now
[01:43] <Kyral> on my desktop
[01:43] <blaze> :)
[01:43] <Kyral> laptop it all about the Fluxbox
[01:43] <Lordthund> guys, what does dpkg --get-selecitons really tell me?
[01:43] <bendld> my pc is connected to the internet via ath0, i want to hook up my xbox to eth0 and use the internet from ath0. i think the problem may be that i am not sure what ip, subnet, and gateway to assign to eth0
[01:43] <h3sp4wn> nickrud: I just want to test whether I will be able to use my 9800pro with the oss drivers with 7.1 (it would be worth the hassle to build my own packages) But I would just try it on another partition with a distro which already had it
[01:43] <Lordthund> --get-selections *
[01:43] <gambit> when i d/l and save to disk, how do i get to it in terminal
[01:43] <bendld> i can configure the xbox just fine otherwise
[01:43] <Kyral> get what
[01:43] <nickrud> Lordthund, it tells you what packages you have installed, in a format you can use with --set-selections
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> nickrud: X org 7 goes upto 9600 so maybe 7.1 goes upto 9800
[01:44] <hollerith> benld:if you are using dhcp its being assigned for you
[01:44] <nickrud> h3sp4wn, no clue, ati is not my strong point
[01:44] <Lordthund> nickrud, ah.. not really.. it seems.. installting mysql-server-4.1 still fails, but dpkg --get-selections says it's installed
[01:44] <Lordthund> and what does "deinstalled" mean in that context?
[01:45] <Kyral> Lordthund: means it was once installed, but now it isn't
[01:45] <bendld> so are you saying that i should configure eth0 to be configured via dhcp?
[01:45] <Kyral> as opposed to never have been installed
[01:45] <Lordthund> does that mean that there are still references /deps somewhere in the system?
[01:45] <hollerith> can't you just go straight to your router?  why do you want the pc as a gateway?
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> nickrud: I wouldn't say its mine but I sure as hell would like to get rid of fglrx
[01:45] <Lordthund> Kyral, how can i get that out?
[01:45] <Kyral> Lordthund: NFI
[01:45] <Kyral> I don't use Ubuntu anymore
[01:45] <blaze> and.. i have one more question about gnome and kde.. can i make something in order not to see the kde applications when i'm in gnome's applications menu :) ?
[01:45] <Lordthund> Kyral, ?
[01:45] <hollerith> if your pc is a gateway then you're going to have to do some NAT
[01:45] <Kyral> No F***ing Idea :P
[01:45] <Lordthund> ahh
[01:45] <Lordthund> ;D
[01:46] <skippy> hollerith, hes basically trying to extend a wireless network using his linux box to bridge it onto ethernet
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> He needs to use hostapd then
[01:46] <lewix> where's theme manager?
[01:46] <nickrud> h3sp4wn, simple buy nvidia, then I'll help :)
[01:46] <richiefrich> Kyral ne neither :!)
[01:46] <skippy> hostapd?
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> Does he have a properly supported wireless card ?
[01:47] <nickrud> I'm almost interested enough to join #debian so see the fireworks
[01:47] <hollerith> bendld:you have a wireless router with some ethernet as well
[01:47] <bendld> yes
[01:47] <swim> ive found a package for filezilla for debian... there is one for sarge, etch, and sid... which one if any should I attempt to use?
[01:47] <neil__> anyone have exp with getting tv-out on an ati rage card?
[01:48] <lewix> where's theme manager located in kde?
[01:48] <lewix> I cant find it
[01:48] <hollerith> bendld:so you can connect your xbox to the internet by running some c5 to the router?
[01:48] <BioVorE> sid should be close to what ubuntu dapper is
[01:48] <Kyral> lewix: its broken up
[01:48] <bendld> but i dont want to hardwire the xbox to it because that would mean that i need to run cat cable through the house
[01:48] <bendld> it works though
[01:48] <nickrud> swim, if any will work, it's most likely sid/unstable
[01:48] <h3sp4wn> nickrud: I am contenplating it but it still involves running a tainted kernel (and if I can get os ati drivers working then that would be better)
[01:48] <swim> thx
[01:48] <lewix> Kyral, ?
[01:48] <martinsanchez> hi verybody, somebody here know how to install kubuntu live cd,???
[01:48] <blaze> and.. i have one more question about gnome and kde.. can i make something in order not to see the kde applications when i'm in gnome's applications menu :) ?
[01:48] <hollerith> I know you may want not to do that in the end but it is possible?
[01:48] <martinsanchez> hi verybody, somebody here know how to install kubuntu live cd,???
[01:48] <h3sp4wn> swim: get the source package and compile it (it will work better)
[01:49] <Kyral> lewix: as in like, you have your Window Deco menu
[01:49] <Kyral> and then you color scheme
[01:49] <nickrud> h3sp4wn, I agree, open source is better by def, but by working ...
[01:49] <swim> h3sp4wn: i dont want to install via compile though Id like to make a package
[01:49] <Kyral> and then your "style" (controls)
[01:49] <chavo> no there's a theme manager in kde also, that can save combinations of all those
[01:49] <martinsanchez> hi verybody, somebody here know how to install kubuntu live cd,???
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> swim: Make a pcckage from the deb-src of sid
[01:49] <hollerith> so you have a wireless adaptor for your xbox then
[01:49] <[arcane] > lol
[01:49] <bendld> no
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> swim: against the ubuntu libraries
[01:49] <swim> h3sp4wn: better than the full source from the site?
[01:49] <Kyral> martinsanchez: if you are using a Breezy one, you can't
[01:50] <bendld> my xbox is 2 feet away from my pc
[01:50] <[arcane] > kubuntu = not really a distro
[01:50] <skippy> hey bendld http://www.sorgonet.com/network/advancedwirelesswithlinux/ this link might help a little
[01:50] <martinsanchez> thanks all!
[01:50] <[arcane] > just a DE
[01:50] <skippy> at least with the bridging part
[01:50] <skippy> it seems to be be doing what you want to do pretty closely actually
[01:50] <bendld> so i would like to hardwire the xbox to my pc and use my pcs wireless adapter to connect to the wireless router
[01:50] <hollerith> ah, but pc is nearby and has a wireless adaptor to the router?
[01:51] <hollerith> sorry yes
[01:51] <bendld> thanks alot skippy, ill check it out
[01:51] <bendld> exactly
[01:51] <skippy> :)
[01:51] <swim> h3sp4wn: better than the full source from the site?
[01:51] <skippy> i wish i had a little project like that to do lol, im bored at the moment :)
[01:51] <h3sp4wn> swim: I don't know whether it will be much different - but it would be easier to build a deb
[01:52] <maccam94> anyone willing to help me fix a strange ethernet card problem?
[01:52] <bendld> haha, im frustrated ive been workin on this for a few hours and thats only today
[01:52] <hollerith> yout pc is going to be a gateway
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> dendid: Are you using ndiswrapper ?
[01:52] <swim> how can I remove the need for a password for sudo? (using visudo)
[01:52] <skippy> the thing about that guide though, bendld is that the bridge is a passthrough
[01:52] <hollerith> you need it to run a dhcp-server too
[01:52] <Napoleon> swim: :-/
[01:52] <[arcane] > sudo passwd
[01:52] <skippy> but it is relatively easy to change that
[01:52] <Napoleon> [arcane] : no..
[01:53] <[arcane] > well ...
[01:53] <Napoleon> you wouldn't want to not have to enter a password for sudo
[01:53] <Noah0504> Does anyone know of a Windows solution for converting DVDs and other video to Theroa?
[01:53] <richiefrich> swim a user to ?
[01:53] <Napoleon> that sort of defeats the point
[01:53] <crazy_penguin> night all. sleep well! :)
[01:54] <swim> Napoleon: im the only user... I know how to use linux... I dont need a password
[01:54] <[arcane] > Noah0504, uh linux
[01:54] <lewix> Kyral, im stuck i dont know how to choose the theme i just downloaded
[01:54] <lewix> and installed
[01:54] <skippy> Noah0504, by Theroa do you mean ogg format?
[01:54] <richiefrich> swim are u root?
[01:54] <swim> richiefrich: when I want to be :)
[01:54] <BioVorE> Noah0504: I think the guys at Xiph.org have a windows port somewhere
[01:54] <bendld> i dont understand what master and managed mode are or how to change it
[01:54] <Noah0504> arcane: Well, I have Linux on my laptop and it's not really efficient to convert video and DVDs.  However, our Windows machine is much faster.
[01:54] <skippy> are you running a linux ipod by any chance? :)
[01:54] <richiefrich> swim then explain what u mean
[01:55] <richiefrich> swim by your question
[01:55] <[arcane] > Noah0504, what
[01:55] <swim> richiefrich: I just want to know how to edit sudoers so that sudo doesnt require a password
[01:55] <Noah0504> arcane: My Linux box is slow, my Windows box is fast.
[01:55] <Noah0504> haha
[01:55] <BioVorE> Noah0504: virtualdubmod.sourceforge.net I think has a pluging that handle theora encoding
[01:55] <richiefrich> swim /etc/sudoers
[01:55] <[arcane] > Noah0504, dude cause you use ubuntu
[01:56] <swim> richiefrich: yah I know... never mind I remmember now
[01:56] <Noah0504> arcane, No, it's slow because it's slow.
[01:56] <neil__> anyone have exp with getting tv-out on an ati rage card?
[01:56] <richiefrich> Noah0504 try archlinux
[01:56] <helpneeded> hello eceryone  :0
[01:56] <Noah0504> BioVorE, Thanks.
[01:56] <[arcane] > Noah0504, then leave here and use windows
[01:56] <helpneeded> anyone know much about text based install for dapper
[01:56] <Kyral> One WTF are you doing in here
[01:57] <helpneeded> ?
[01:57] <[arcane] > kyncani, who are you
[01:57] <Kyral> two, no, we don't scold people
[01:57] <[arcane] > Kyral, who the fuck are you
[01:57] <Noah0504> arcane, How about you stop being a smart-ass.  I only mean my Linux box isn't fast enough to rip a DVD...unless I want to wait 12 hours...For everything else, it's a fine computer.  And Ubuntu runs just fine.
[01:57] <crimsun> [arcane] : / Kyral: cut it out. Now.
[01:57] <[arcane] > he bitches bout ubuntu then use MS
[01:58] <Kyral> [arcane] : I think we had a flamewar in #archlinux a couple days ago
[01:58] <[arcane] > Kyral, and
[01:58] <[arcane] > your point is
[01:58] <Kyral> I'll leave now
[01:58] <helpneeded> can anyone help witha problem during text install of dapper
[01:58] <hollerith> somebody kick him
[01:59] <[arcane] > Noah0504, there are tons of apps to rip dvds
[01:59] <trinni> hi ppl
[01:59] <nickrud> helpneeded, try #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[01:59] <helpneeded> cool :)
[01:59] <Noah0504> arcane, But on the Windows side, I was looking for something that would rip to Theora.
[01:59] <crimsun> [arcane] : if someone wishes to use something else, that's his/her preprogative. Under no circumstances do we antagonise him/her for doing so, understand?
[01:59] <[arcane] > crimsun, well why dont yall use a real distro
[02:00] <skippy> the irony is that he only wants to use windows to improve his linux expierience
[02:00] <[arcane] > and stop complaining
[02:00] <[arcane] > bout stuff
[02:00] <[arcane] > skippy, agreed
[02:00] <trinni> have problem while installation. installation is still at "preparing amarok"...since more than 10 minutes now. anyone can help?
[02:00] <jorvis_> is there a package search page on the ubuntu site?  Right now i'm looking for the package that provides 'dh_testdir'
[02:00] <bendld> one more question, when i enable eth0 if i select dhcp it does not recieve an ip (which makes sense because it is not connected to a dhcp server) so what settings should i use? the wireless network is on the range 192.168.0.*
[02:00] <crimsun> [arcane] : this is neither the time nor the place to be harassing developers.
[02:00] <nickrud> jorvis_, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:00] <Noah0504> arcane, And the only reason Windows is on the other machine is because it's not my computer.  It's the family computer and I don't think they'd be too happy with me is I just installed Linux on it.
[02:00] <[arcane] > and ok srry
[02:00] <gambit> im trying to install nwn, i mkdir nwn, cd nwn, but when i use unzip /mnt/cdrom/disk2.zip  it says command not found, why
[02:01] <hollerith> your gateway shouold have a dhcp-server on it too
[02:01] <jorvis_> i'm using 5.10 ... is that dapper?  breezy?
[02:01] <nickrud> gambit, you need to install the the unzip package
[02:01] <MrRio> jorvis_: breezy
[02:01] <jorvis_> crap, no results for 'dh_testdir'
[02:02] <crimsun> jorvis_: please install debhelper.
[02:02] <trinni> have problem while installaing dapper i386. installation is still at "preparing amarok"...since more than 10 minutes now. anyone can help? - am a first-timer
[02:02] <gambit> nickrud, what package
[02:02] <crimsun> trinni: you'll probably get better results in #kubuntu
[02:02] <nickrud> crimsun, don't you have better things to do :)
[02:02] <trinni> k thx crimsun
[02:02] <MrRio> jorvis_: its Y.MM, so 2005, 10 month, dapper isn't out til june (2006 06 = 6.06)
[02:02] <nickrud> gambit, unzip
[02:03] <skippy> bendld, because your eth0 is the other side of the bridge, i think it would want an ip like 192.168.2.1
[02:03] <gambit> from sysnap?
[02:03] <richiefrich> gambit sudo apt-get install unzip
[02:03] <jorvis_> MrRio: ah, well, it's a good thing I just installed breezy then!
[02:03] <lewix> damn
[02:03] <gambit> ty
[02:03] <richiefrich> np
[02:03] <jorvis_> I could have waited a week
[02:03] <lewix> is it that hard to install a theme?
[02:03] <jorvis_> crimsun: thanks, that got it
[02:03] <bendld> ok
[02:03] <skippy> when i have had two routers i have always used 192.168.2.1 as the second gateway
[02:03] <lewix> nobody is able to help me out
[02:03] <hollerith> skippy:subnet mask will change that
[02:03] <skippy> but its only convention
[02:03] <bendld> so my eth0 will be the gateway for the second network?
[02:04] <richiefrich> lewix for what wm?
[02:04] <skippy> yes for the xboc
[02:04] <hollerith> no your ath0 will be the gateway
[02:04] <jorvis_> lewix: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/292
[02:04] <lewix> richiefrich, Im trying to install a them but It doesnt work
[02:05] <richiefrich> lewix for what wm?
[02:05] <westdene> hi
[02:05] <hollerith> you'll need to NAT certain traffic to your xbox's internal address (it won't have an external sne)
[02:05] <hollerith> one
[02:05] <lewix> richiefrich, whats wm? here the theme: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26392
[02:05] <westdene> can anyone help me? or is there another chan to ask?
[02:05] <hollerith> eth0 is the xbox nic
[02:05] <richiefrich> lewix i need to know what u  use...  GNOME/KDE/fluxbox/openbox/ratpoison/.wmii/ion3
[02:06] <bendld> eth0 connects to the xbox
[02:06] <lewix> richiefrich, kde
[02:06] <blizzo> hi!  #update-rc.d spamassassin defaults   -->  System startup links for /etc/init.d/spamassassin already exist    ... But spamassassin doesnt start up automatically! only /etc/init.d/spamassassin start brings it up. What do I have to do?
[02:07] <blaze> ok, now you have to help me with Kopete. How to change the Encoding?
[02:07] <hollerith> oh and its called what on the xbox?
[02:07] <bendld> im not running linux on the xbox
[02:07] <richiefrich> lewix sorry i dont use ked
[02:07] <lewix> ok
[02:07] <lewix> i abandon
[02:07] <skippy> bendld and hollerith, what do you think about this link http://martybugs.net/wireless/router.cgi
[02:08] <richiefrich> lewix sorry ,man , if i find out ill let u kno
[02:08] <jhenn> hi. can i get some support for mpg321 here? does anyone use this?
[02:09] <westdene> lewix cna I ask you for some help?
[02:09] <blaze> where can i change the font's size in KDE ?
[02:09] <nickrud> jhenn, I have, what's the problem?
[02:09] <hollerith> xbox dhcp-client via whatever interface to eth0 of linux box broadcasting ARP dhcp connects
[02:09] <lewix> westdene, Im a newbie
[02:09] <jhenn> nickrud: i did mpg321 file.mp3 (remote stereaming server) and it just says "stream done decoding" and doesn't play a thing
[02:09] <westdene> too newbie?
[02:09] <hollerith> linux box in turn recieves ip from another dhcp-server somewhere out there
[02:10] <nickrud> jhenn, mpg321 has issues, I'd recommend mpg123-esd from multiverse. (mpg321 uses integer only math iirc)
[02:11] <blaze> where can i change the font's size in KDE ? please help me
[02:11] <[arcane] > blaze, in the control panel
[02:11] <chavo> blaze, system settings - appearance and hemes -> fonts
[02:11] <blaze> 10x chavo
[02:11] <chavo> np
[02:11] <linux_newbie2> I've got an NTFS partition mounted but it says I don't have permission to read it.  I know I have to change something in /etc/fstab.  Can anyone remind me?
[02:12] <jhenn> nickrud: i refuse to use multiverse I'm sorry
[02:12] <chavo> lewix, look in #kde, I answered your question
[02:12] <[arcane] > linux_newbie2, no you have to have the kerne;l configued
[02:12] <deameyes> on ubuntu I'm trying to install SDL, but it says I cannot compile executables, any ideas?
[02:12] <nickrud> jhenn, heh. I admire you then.
[02:12] <linux_newbie2> [arcane] : I know I just had to change something in fstab before, but I had to reload ubuntu and I don't remember the change
[02:13] <[arcane] > linux_newbie2, it shas to do w/ the kernel having support for the FS
[02:13] <nickrud> jhenn, I'd put the mp3 file up where it can be found, and point the devs of mpg321 at it, maybe they can update the free player
[02:13] <linux_newbie2> File browser says: "The folder contents could not be displayed.  You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of hda1
[02:13] <linux_newbie2> *hda2
[02:13] <roast> linux_newbie2: google fstab umask
[02:14] <jhenn> nickrud: does mpg321 have a site, list, forums?
[02:14] <roast> linux_newbie2: if you're the only one on it, you're probably aiming for umask=0222 in the options on the corresponding fstab line
[02:14] <richiefrich> linux_newbie2   /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222                    0 0
[02:14] <westdene> anyone can point me to the right direction on how to get internet in my nix with ADSL eth router?
[02:14] <richiefrich> linux_newbie2 in fstab
[02:14] <nickrud> jhenn, http://mpg321.sourceforge.net/
[02:14] <linux_newbie2> thanks
[02:14] <thenetduck> I have a question about where i should be installing programs
[02:14] <thenetduck> where is the normal place to install a program
[02:15] <skippy> westdene you need to have  a working ehternet card
[02:15] <thenetduck> i mean where do deb packages install programs
[02:15] <westdene> I have skippy
[02:15] <blaze> chavo, but why when i enter Menu Editor, i see System settings in gray
[02:15] <blaze> ?
[02:15] <blaze> and it is not add-ed to the K menu
[02:15] <westdene> the thing is I can ping but cant web browse
[02:15] <thenetduck> does anyone know where deb installs packages by defalut?
[02:15] <nickrud> jhenn, seems the last release was 4 years ago
[02:15] <thenetduck> or normally where programs are installed
[02:15] <chavo> blaze, no idea
[02:15] <thenetduck> like in what folder?
[02:16] <westdene> skippy mind if I pm you?
[02:16] <skippy> westdene are you sure that you have set up the subscription properly
[02:16] <skippy> np westdene :)
[02:16] <westdene> thnx
[02:16] <chavo> blaze, that's odd.
[02:16] <westdene> can you pm me, Im not regged
[02:17] <skippy> neither am i westdene :)
[02:17] <skippy> lol
[02:18] <Harold_P> shoot
[02:18] <Harold_P> Ahh.
[02:18] <[arcane] > lol
[02:18] <Harold_P> Does anyone know how to find your system specs?
[02:18] <Harold_P> I forgot, already. I was told yesterday
[02:18] <bendld> OMG it works!!!!
[02:18] <bendld> thank you for all your help skippy and hollerith
[02:18] <Gronk> hey all
[02:18] <Gronk> :)
[02:18] <MENDIGO> I need help: http://pastebin.com/743863
[02:19] <nickrud> Harold_P, there are serveral ways, such as lshw, lspci, others. what are you looking for?
[02:19] <Gronk> Does anybody here have any suggested solutions for jittery/jumpy dvd playback, when DMA is definately already ON???
[02:20] <Harold_P> Pretty much everything hardware-wise, nickrud. I'm trying to compare my current desktop to a notebook I might buy.
[02:20] <skippy> gronk does having it at full screen make it worse?
[02:20] <Gronk> skippy: checking now
[02:21] <nickrud> Harold_P, start with lshw. There's another that will come back to me that's also extremely useful
[02:21] <benoy> does anyone know of a program which can download an entire website including pictures on that website?
[02:21] <Gronk> skippy: a little, i think
[02:22] <Gronk> skippy: but its still real bad, even in a lil one inch window
[02:22] <skippy> i assume you are using the totem-xine backend?
[02:22] <Gronk> yup yup
[02:22] <nickrud> Harold_P, sudo dmidecode
[02:22] <skippy> ok the fact that it it doesnt help minimizing it would suggest that it isnt your graphics card
[02:23] <Harold_P> nickrud: okay, lshw doesn't give everything I would need--I'll try that
[02:23] <skippy> although it may be worth checking the settings, is it an integrated card you have gronk?
[02:23] <blaze> how can i add the System-Modules menu in KDE's menu
[02:23] <blaze> because it's missing
[02:23] <blaze> and also Menu Editor is not working :(
[02:23] <blaze> should i install sth?
[02:23] <blaze> oh .. at last it appeared
[02:23] <blaze> pfff sry :)
[02:24] <skippy> gronk, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will let you choose an appropritate driver for your graphics card
[02:24] <Harold_P> Thanks, nickrud.
[02:24] <skippy> its best to do a "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/backupxorg.conf" before you play with it thoguh
[02:24] <[arcane] > well
[02:24] <RevPeter> hello i have grub error 18 and 16, after several tryouts i could boot ubuntu, but how can i fix this? (dapper with latest bugfixes)
[02:25] <Gronk> skippy: yeah, its an intergrated card
[02:25] <RevPeter> it happens all the time
[02:25] <RevPeter> ubuntu on second hdd
[02:25] <nickrud> RevPeter, no clue, but #ubuntu+1 is the place for dapper questions
[02:25] <skippy> if when you boot up, x wont let you in, you can simply type "sudo cp /etc/X11/backupxorg,conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to let you back in, make a note of it now
[02:25] <RevPeter> ah, ok thx
[02:26] <[arcane] > Gronk, what type of card ??
[02:26] <[arcane] > intel or what ?
[02:26] <skippy> ok gronk is there any chance your integrated card is made by SIS, i had real jumpy playback with my internal card before i used SIS driver
[02:26] <Gronk> its SiS alright
[02:26] <skippy> also gronk, scroll up and copy/paste the stuff i wrote about making the backup
[02:26] <skippy> you will want to make sure you know how to recover if you cock it up :)(
[02:27] <skippy> when your ready then run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command
[02:27] <skippy> :) thankyou
[02:27] <Gronk> ok
[02:27] <skippy> i try, but alas i am a bit of a big noob deep down
[02:27] <skippy> :)
[02:27] <Gronk> so... use the SiS default driver u reckon?
[02:27] <linux_newbie2> even noobs can help occasionally
[02:28] <skippy> just choose default options for most things gronk, just pressing enter will keep the defaults
[02:28] <skippy> yes on driver use the arrows and go to SIS
[02:28] <witless> is it my imagination or is X a bit snappier on drake?
[02:28] <skippy> if it was set to vesa or vga before, then that would explain why you might have crappy playback
[02:28] <troy_s> X version 7 in drake.
[02:29] <skippy> witless, drake is very snappy
[02:29] <Gronk> & what about the video card's bus identifier??
[02:29] <Gronk> leave that be?
[02:29] <skippy> ok, it should have something like 0,0,0,1 writeen in
[02:29] <skippy> if it does keep it
[02:29] <Gronk> yeah, it does
[02:29] <skippy> just press enter
[02:29] <skippy> in fact you could just repeatedly tap your way through with enter from now on
[02:30] <thanr01> can i install ubuntu first then tiger after on my ibook?
[02:30] <skippy> i love defaults :)
[02:30] <skippy> thanr01, it would be easier the other way round
[02:30] <thanr01> i know but it still can be done?
[02:30] <skippy> but it could be done, the think is OS tiger will probably erase the MBR and boot straight to itself
[02:31] <skippy> you would have to use a grub boot disk to get into linux and then reinstall grub over the mbr thanr01
[02:31] <troy_s> More than likely.
[02:31] <thanr01> ok
[02:31] <[arcane] > lol ubuntu on a mac ?
[02:31] <skippy> PPC i assume
[02:31] <thanr01> ya
[02:31] <nickrud> [arcane] , yeah, an improvement
[02:31] <BioVorE> yup.. there going to have KDE4 apps ported to mac OS X as well I hear
[02:31] <troy_s> thanr01:  http://www.philroche.net/archives/osx-and-ubuntu-dual-boot/
[02:31] <nickrud> :)
[02:31] <skippy> apparantly OSX really flys on a PC
[02:31] <deameyes> if it says c compiler cannot create executables, how do I go about fixing this?
[02:31] <[arcane] > nickrud, hmm
[02:31] <[arcane] > uh theres TDL
[02:31] <[arcane] > YDL*
[02:32] <skippy> hmm gronk has gone quiet, i hope i havnt crapped his system up :)
[02:32] <[arcane] > OSX for intell bites
[02:32] <BioVorE> deameyes: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:32] <[arcane] > i have it
[02:32] <skippy> its a shame im all AMD at the moment or i would try OSX
[02:32] <troy_s> blasphemy, AMD all the way.
[02:32] <skippy> im a big fan of fast OS :)
[02:32] <[arcane] > skippy, its not all that
[02:32] <BioVorE> [arcane] : I agree.. I don't like it..  Having a filesystem that preservess case but is case insensitive makes no sense..
[02:32] <nooby_god> if I install the Drapper Drake RC and upgrate will it be the same if I waited until the 1st?
[02:32] <deameyes> thanks
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> nickrud: ubuntu on a kurobox (embedded ppc) how difficult do you think it would be ? (I will find out soon I suppose)
[02:33] <PyroMithrandir> nooby_god, yeah
[02:33] <troy_s> nooby_god:  Theretically yes.
[02:33] <[arcane] > BioVorE, not to metion that you have to be using at least nvidia to run it correctly
[02:33] <l_r> hello! Final Ubuntu 6.06 is out!!!!
[02:33] <gnomefreak> l_r: june 1st
[02:33] <l_r> kidding:)
[02:33] <nickrud> h3sp4wn, no freaking clue, I was being flippant :)
[02:33] <skippy> im just tabbing out for a sec brb
[02:33] <BioVorE> [arcane] : macbook pros have ati cards in them..
[02:33] <Surfnkid> what do you upgrade to get to 6.06 if u got 5.10?
[02:33] <BioVorE> !upgrade
[02:33] <ubotu> hmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[02:33] <[arcane] > BioVorE, i couldnt get the intel for x86 to work w/oa highend card
[02:34] <nooby_god> also, I want to move from Gentoo to Ubuntu for my personal box, can some one explain to me somethings?
[02:34] <jhenn> i get this error when i try to open ogg theora video with totem The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.
[02:34] <nickrud> Surfnkid, wait a day or two, there are issues
[02:34] <BioVorE> [arcane] : yeah.. need a high end card.. thats for sure..
[02:34] <Surfnkid> nm then :)
[02:34] <troy_s> Go nooby
[02:34] <jhenn> no matter if nothing is running it still gives errors
[02:34] <Gronk> skippy: thanks a lot mate - i'm going through it all now
[02:34] <troy_s> jhenn is that after a fresh boot?
[02:35] <Surfnkid> hey skippy ya from australia
[02:35] <nooby_god> 1. Instead of using the binary packages for some applications can I build from source?
[02:35] <thenetduck> if i install Dapper now will it be diffrent from the one released on June 1st?
[02:35] <troy_s> nooby_god:  Yes.  But be careful that you don't mix match too much and twist your system.
[02:35] <skippy> ok gronk :)
[02:35] <skippy> surfnkid nah mate, im from the UK
[02:35] <troy_s> nooby 2) Yes.  But it will autoupdate itself.
[02:35] <Surfnkid> UKEY!
[02:35] <Surfnkid> cool
[02:35] <skippy> skippy is a nickname ive had for years :)
[02:35] <jhenn> troy_s: no idea
[02:35] <troy_s> jhenn?
[02:36] <ubuntu> i just opened a unix server is thier any program i can use on windows to setup software on the unix server
[02:36] <jhenn> troy_s: hold on
[02:36] <skippy> i used to be a bit hyperactive as a child lol
[02:36] <nooby_god> alright, 2. When I install Ubuntu will I be given a full fledged Gnome desktop? or will it be a minimal one?
[02:36] <jhenn> troy_s: yes
[02:36] <l_r> thenetduck, probably
[02:36] <troy_s> ubuntu:  Unix server?
[02:36] <jhenn> troy_s: had to check uptime
[02:36] <Surfnkid> i just knew someone similar but was a real mean person so glad u're not it
[02:36] <skippy> nooby_god, it is a pretty decent slection of sotware
[02:37] <skippy> but unless you have a net connection you will get frustrated
[02:37] <h3sp4wn> nooby_god : Pretty bloated by all accounts
[02:37] <skippy> SUSE is a better distro for people who cant get online to update
[02:37] <nooby_god> I can remove all I want right?
[02:37] <troy_s> jhenn:  try a ps -aux and look for anything you have that might be grabbing the video.  If there is, kill it.  If not, make sure your "multimedia" sinks are set properly.
[02:37] <skippy> yes mate
[02:38] <nooby_god> and does the installation come with tools to help integrate QT and GTK apps?
[02:38] <skippy> hehe Surfnkid nah i dont bite :)
[02:38] <ubuntu> i leased a server to run a hosting site for a chat program but my pc is windows xp i'm now trying to logon and run install scripts using ubuntu any suggestions
[02:38] <igorzolnikov> hi... who i can install flash for firefox 1.5.03... i have ubuntu 6.06
[02:38] <Surfnkid> heh, very well, no one here has
[02:38] <skippy> nooby_god, no its a basic desktop
[02:38] <troy_s> ubuntu:  for security always use ssh
[02:38] <skippy> no development software worth mentioning
[02:38] <jhenn> troy_s: how do i set them up?
[02:38] <troy_s> jhenn:  Version of Ubuntu?
[02:39] <troy_s> jhenn:  Also, does this only happen with ogg vorbis / theora?
[02:39] <skippy> yeah ubuntu just download ssh from the synaptic or apt-get
[02:39] <Surfnkid> ubotu how can i get acid relief from my stomach, thank u
[02:39] <ubotu> Surfnkid: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:39] <Surfnkid> :P
[02:39] <jhenn> troy_s: i only use ogg
[02:39] <jhenn> troy_s: breezy
[02:39] <nooby_god> one final question, I have a prism2 USB wireless adapter, so I need ndiswrapper or linux-wlan-ng for net access, are any one of those included in the installation cd?
[02:39] <troy_s> jhenn:  ogg is just a wrapper. Vorbis is for audio.  Theora is video.
[02:39] <ubuntu> i tried ssh and the new versions of cross platform ftp servers and cygwin
[02:39] <jordan> sup
[02:39] <jhenn> troy_s: no really :P
[02:40] <troy_s> ubuntu:  setup a ssh server on your server and use putty from the xp machine
[02:40] <troy_s> jhenn:  sorry, trying not to assume anything.
[02:40] <Gronk> BUGGER - the bastard is still jumpy *bashes head on mini tower until bloody*
[02:40] <jhenn> troy_s: its cool
[02:40] <troy_s> jhenn:  What video player you using?
[02:40] <jhenn> troy_s: just totem
[02:40] <Gronk> totem
[02:40] <nickrud> jhenn, please say that's totem-xine
[02:40] <skippy> nooby-god prism 2 might be doable without ndiswrapper
[02:40] <troy_s> Gronk:  What is jumpy?
[02:41] <Gronk> dvd playback
[02:41] <Gronk> avi = fine
[02:41] <troy_s> gronk:  you have dma enabled?
[02:41] <Gronk> dma = on
[02:41] <jhenn> nickrud: no i just use totem
[02:41] <troy_s> gronk:  on both cdrom and hard disk if ide?
[02:41] <jhenn> nickrud: whatevers on breezy default
[02:41] <Gronk> i'll check the hd
[02:41] <skippy> gronk do a sudo hdparm /dev/cda
[02:41] <troy_s> jhenn:  theora should be fine if you have the gstreamer plugin
[02:41] <skippy> i think thats the command anyway :)
[02:41] <jhenn> troy_s: its all default install basically
[02:42] <nickrud> jhenn, totem-xine uses xine as a backend, it makes good use of ffmpeg, gives you better support
[02:42] <jhenn> nickrud: is that in multiverse?
[02:42] <ubuntu> problem i'm having it came with a pre packaged control panel that only adds telnet mysql perl script checker frontpage ext and few other simple things but unable to setup a ssh server on it from control panel
[02:42] <troy_s> jhenn:  i can't remember if the default 5.10 install has the gstreamer for theora.
[02:42] <nickrud> jhenn, no, universe :)
[02:43] <skippy> sorry gronk its "sudo hdparm /dev/hdd" you want
[02:43] <troy_s> ubuntu:  open up a terminal type 'sudo apt-get install ssh' if you are in dapper.  in breezy do an 'apt-cache search ssh server' and add whatever it grabs.
[02:43] <jhenn> nickrud: installed
[02:43] <nickrud> jhenn, while I was updateing restricted formats, I got an education
[02:43] <jhenn> nickrud: its about freedom man
[02:43] <troy_s> Theora isn't restricted
[02:43] <troy_s> and theoretically SHOULD work out of box
[02:43] <Gronk> dma = on for the HD as well
[02:43] <troy_s> but no guarantees.
[02:43] <skippy> ok, what spec is your PC
[02:43] <ubuntu> how do i move this to the server running unix
[02:43] <troy_s> gronk hdparm shows d1 for your dvd too?
[02:44] <nickrud> jhenn, true, but I won't stand in the way of others
[02:44] <Cryption> Ayone here familar with xplanet?
[02:44] <jhenn> nickrud: what do you mean?
[02:44] <troy_s> crypt:  is it like celestia?
[02:44] <Gronk> skippy: p4 3Ghz, 1 gig ram, gigabyte intergrated motherboard
[02:44] <nickrud> jhenn, not to get too philosphical, but I'm glad debian kept non-free around
[02:44] <skippy> gronk, im thinking that if you have a PC with little ram, and the DVD drive and Hard DIsk are on the same IDE cable, swap file usage could be hurting the dvds bandwidth
[02:44] <Gronk> troy: dl?
[02:44] <skippy> hehe sorry your spec should be fine gronk
[02:45] <troy_s> gronk:  dma on == sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd etc
[02:45] <linux_newbie2> can anyone tell me, in the Removable Drives and Media Preferences window, Multimedia tab, what does the %d mean?
[02:45] <troy_s> gronk:  test with mplayer and work your way back.
[02:45] <jhenn> nickrud: im not
[02:45] <jhenn> nickrud: im quite upset actually
[02:46] <blaze> how can i update my kde?
[02:46] <troy_s> jhenn:  awsome.  another purist!
[02:46] <ubuntu> if anyone would like to try familiar with unix i'd be willing to give u ftp login and file its in if u think u can set it up
[02:46] <Cryption> Yes it is like Celestia
[02:46] <nickrud> jhenn, hm, lemme install vrms, see what it says
[02:46] <troy_s> ubuntu:  unwise.  can you obtain a shell / terminal / command line?
[02:46] <jhenn> nickrud: i have it installed but its not perfect
[02:46] <jhenn> troy_s: do you jabber?
[02:46] <Surfnkid> if im just trying to get mp3 decoders do i have to enable security updates  community maintained (univ) or just leave that alone
[02:47] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: I would do it for a free shell account
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[02:47] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:47] <blaze> how can i update my KDE version?
[02:47] <skippy> yes sufnkid you need to enable univere and multiverse
[02:47] <ubuntu> yup using a cross platform ncftp which is profptd i believe but run the install file
[02:47] <nickrud> I've got the video drivers, java, and ttf-gentium (didn't expect that)
[02:47] <Boelcke> blaze, what version are you using now?
[02:47] <jhenn> troy_s: nickrud install totem-xine made it work.  who knew?
[02:47] <ubuntu> won't
[02:47] <Surfnkid> are the multiverse the blackports?
[02:47] <blaze> 3.4.3 Boelcke
[02:47] <Gronk> the wierd thing is that my avis play back better anc crisper than ever now - even if the sound seems slightly outta sync
[02:47] <troy_s> jhenn: xine handles things differently.
[02:47] <Gronk> anc = and
[02:48] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: proftpd != ncftp
[02:48] <skippy> hmm gronk your problem is stumping me a bit
[02:48] <jhenn> troy_s: zenlunatic@jabber.org
[02:48] <troy_s> ubuntu:  not ftp.  you will need to use a terminal.
[02:48] <nickrud> jhenn, I did, I've spend way too much on non-free media support
[02:48] <skippy> i hate to ask this question, but does it work in windows gronk?
[02:48] <ubuntu> i believe so program i d/l was ncftp but when command lind comes up says proftpd
[02:48] <jhenn> nickrud: i value my freedom
[02:48] <Boelcke> Printer question: I figured out I had to put "Servername 192.168.0.110" in my client.conf file -- what's the format for the regular hostname?
[02:48] <blaze> Boelcke, can you help me?
[02:48] <troy_s> gronk:  did you try mplayer yet?
[02:49] <troy_s> jhenn:  here here.
[02:49] <blaze> how can i update my KDE version?
[02:49] <corey> i cant figure out what im doing wrong, i upgraded to dapper and now network manager doesnt list my wifi card, its listed in iwconfig but not in networkmanager
[02:49] <Gronk>  skippy: it did work with xp
[02:49] <blaze> =(
[02:49] <skippy> yeah good point, try using xine as well gronk
[02:49] <nickrud> jhenn, not to toot too hard, but the first paragraph of restricted formats is mine
[02:49] <jhenn> troy_s: just thought you might want to stay in trouch with another "purist"
[02:49] <Boelcke> blaze, I'm thinking I can.  I just did the Synaptec kubuntu-desktop package...
[02:49] <skippy> xine, totem can definately play dvd
[02:49] <Boelcke> You're looking to go to 3.5, blaze?
[02:49] <skippy> i believe VLC can also, VLC is worth trying
[02:49] <jhenn> nickrud: i asked mark if we could take out restricted formats
[02:49] <blaze> yes Boelcke
[02:49] <jhenn> nickrud: i mean restricted copyrights
[02:50] <blaze> and kubuntu is the kde ubuntu :), right?
[02:50] <jhenn> nickrud: he said maybe after dapper is released
[02:50] <jhenn> nickrud: its not priority
[02:50] <Flannel> blaze: right.
[02:50] <Gronk> ok - swapped my test dvd from Red Dwarf to harry potter
[02:50] <troy_s> jhenn:  can't yet.  but hopefully the opensource community can educate the rest of the point and clickers.
[02:50] <skippy> i would suggest reinstalling the codecs, but since you are able to unlock the dvd to play it it would seem that you are set up right
[02:50] <Gronk> now she's apples
[02:50] <Boelcke> blaze, argh, typo, I meant to say can't...
[02:50] <jhenn> nickrud: like have an option to not use it
[02:50] <blaze> 10x Flannel and Boelcke
[02:50] <ubuntu> i'm just learning and starting out so can't really mess up up server most is locked and hidden from ftp
[02:50] <blaze> :) np
[02:50] <troy_s> gronk:  yah.
[02:50] <Surfnkid> there are two ub 5.10 repositories binary and source
[02:50] <jhenn> troy_s: i would rather my family use ubuntu with non-free then windows
[02:50] <troy_s> ubuntu:  ftp is not a shell
[02:50] <Surfnkid> do i enable universe and mmultiverse on both?
[02:50] <Gronk> it was just the original red dwarf footage that was crap
[02:50] <Trashcan> can someone help me out with boot procedure.. i need to run dhclient before doing the NTP sync
[02:50] <jhenn> troy_s: but i wouldn't help them install it
[02:50] <troy_s> ubuntu:  i would bet that they have ssh already enabled
[02:50] <nickrud> jhenn, then you're gonna lose nearly every video card. It's like having netscape back when. Suck up, and write replacecments (or encourage others to, it's all I can do)
[02:51] <skippy> your kidding? are you sorted then gronk?
[02:51] <troy_s> ubuntu:  ftp is only file transfer protocol.  you need a shell - a command line.
[02:51] <skippy> is it smooth now?
[02:51] <jhenn> nickrud: we will see the promised land one day
[02:51] <Flannel> troy_s, ubuntu, right. the server install has ssh installed by default.  Nothing else listening though.
[02:51] <troy_s> jhenn:  hit nvidia and ati with some pleasant hatemail and encourage them to open their specs.
[02:51] <Gronk> skippy: yeah thanks man - but ur advide did help, last nite, even harry potter was jumpy
[02:51] <Gronk> advice i mean
[02:51] <skippy> lol :)
[02:51] <jhenn> troy_s: word
[02:51] <skippy> well gronk good to here your sorted :)
[02:52] <skippy> hear*
[02:52] <ubuntu> says its enabled already along with phpadmin tool box but can't login on putty phpadmin toolbox is hangin
[02:52] <jhenn> troy_s: do you jabber or just irc?
[02:52] <troy_s> jhenn:  NOT linux support.  open specs.  open source.  that way freebsd, linux, openbsd, netbsd, and EVERYONE wins.
[02:52] <linux_newbie2> what's the difference between editing hdparm.conf and keeping the changes via hdparm -k1?
[02:52] <troy_s> jhenn:  now AND in the future.
[02:52] <jhenn> troy_s: well netbsd and freebsd are already losing
[02:52] <Flannel> troy_s, jhenn, and additional arches.
[02:52] <jhenn> troy_s: they have binary blobs in their base
[02:53] <troy_s> jhenn:  openbsd doesnt :)
[02:53] <skippy> linux_newbie2, there isnt a big difference, its just a convienience thing really
[02:53] <jhenn> troy_s: i know but openbsd ports and packages contains wild non-free software
[02:53] <skippy> personally i like to just edit conf files whenever possible
[02:53] <linux_newbie2> skippy: thanks
[02:53] <jhenn> troy_s: its good for a router or just running emacs :)
[02:53] <Trashcan> if I want to run dhclient before ntpdate, would I create a script that runs dhclient and place that before ntpdate in the boot sequence? and if so, which file controls the boot sequence? :)
[02:53] <troy_s> jhenn:  needless to say, binary blobs willingness isn't the end of the world -- they are doing what they can.  some choose to avoid them.  to that end, open docs help everyone.
[02:53] <jhenn> troy_s: firewall even
[02:53] <troy_s> jhenn:  bah.
[02:53] <skippy> conf files are good, because you can back em up, and you learn more that way
[02:54] <linux_newbie2> skippy: that would be my preference too: I'd rather re-do it later possibly instead of having settings that are automagically saved somewhere
[02:54] <jhenn> troy_s: you can so easily install non-free in openbsd
[02:54] <jhenn> troy_s: by accident
[02:54] <jhenn> troy_s: with one pkg_add
[02:54] <jhenn> troy_s: there goes your freedom
[02:54] <skippy> yeah, linux, my fave think about linux are the human readable conf files
[02:54] <troy_s> jhenn:  yah... they should at least be clear to what is going in and what the implications are.
[02:54] <ubuntu> u can reach me from passion.sharpsphere.com if anyone would like to try i'm goin reboot and try the putty again
[02:54] <Surfnkid> jesus christ my SPM has a gizillion universe and multiverse
[02:54] <jhenn> troy_s: i wish they would make debian/openbsd
[02:54] <troy_s> jhenn:  it is like a company saying that 32bit ndiswrapper drivers work so they aren't going to bother releasing an open source driver.
[02:55] <jhenn> troy_s: THAT would ROCK
[02:55] <troy_s> jhenn:  the package system in openbsd is pretty darn great.  can't complain too much.
[02:55] <jhenn> troy_s: yeah but its not categorized like debian is (free here, non-free here)
[02:55] <Surfnkid> hey guys now theyre enabled universe and multiverse
[02:55] <jhenn> troy_s: peace
[02:55] <Surfnkid> do i have to download mp3 packages
[02:56] <blaze> can somebody tell me how to update my KDE to 3.5 ?
[02:56] <blaze> now it's 3.4.3
[02:56] <skippy> ill get you the link surfnkid, what version are you using, dapper or breezy?
[02:56] <Surfnkid> breezy
[02:56] <Surfnkid> im looking at steps
[02:56] <Surfnkid> ive enabled univ and multiv
[02:57] <nickrud> jhenn, yeah, the categorization is not as clear, and troy_s has a point. But, do we say 'ok, it's not free so you can't use your laptop on the net?' Harsh
[02:57] <Surfnkid> clicked ok, refreshed screen, downloaded a few pkgs and now i dont know what else to start enabling those package
[02:57] <Surfnkid> s
[02:57] <Surfnkid> i just want to get my mp3 music to play
[02:57] <skippy> to get mp3 playing open a terminal
[02:57] <skippy> alt and F2 should do it
[02:57] <Surfnkid> ok
[02:58] <MisterN> n8
[02:58] <skippy> then type "apt-get update"
[02:58] <Surfnkid> can i do that on a regular terminal screen
[02:58] <Boelcke> What's the right format for my hostname?  (Trying to replace IP address that works in my CUPS clients.conf file)
[02:58] <Trashcan> alright lets simplify the qestion then. which file controls the order of boot scripts?
[02:59] <jhenn> nickrud: i asked rms about this if he would support banning the internet
[02:59] <jhenn> nickrud: i can forward you the mail
[02:59] <jhenn> nickrud: uif u liek
[02:59] <nickrud> jhenn, please :)
[02:59] <Surfnkid> hang on skip
[02:59] <skippy> then "apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg" surfnkid
[02:59] <jhenn> nickrud: is your email in nickserv info
[02:59] <skippy> sorry mate my error surfnkid
[02:59] <skippy> you need to type "sudo" before everything.
[03:00] <Surfnkid> right
[03:00] <skippy> have you got a terminal open yet?
[03:00] <Surfnkid> ahhh
[03:00] <Surfnkid> i did that yesterdady but didnt enable the univ multiv
[03:00] <Surfnkid> so it might work now
[03:00] <tehubersheezy> eh i need help upgrading video card drivers
[03:00] <skippy> sudo apt-get update
[03:00] <Surfnkid> ok
[03:00] <skippy> then
[03:00] <skippy> sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[03:00] <Surfnkid> it fetched a few things
[03:00] <Surfnkid> ill just copy and paste :P
[03:00] <skippy> that should get you the major formats up
[03:01] <skippy> yeah it should work :)
[03:01] <Surfnkid> ok
[03:01] <skippy> it wont take very long
[03:01] <Sanne> Trashcan, as far as I know, the scripts are in /etc/init.d, and they get controlled by symlinks in /etc/rcN.d where N is the runlevel (default 2, I believe).
[03:01] <skippy> that stuff should get you mp3 and avi/divx up
[03:01] <Surfnkid> ok its downloading and copying
[03:01] <skippy> good :)
[03:01] <skippy> now there is also a program called "synaptic"
[03:02] <skippy> it is a graphical frontend for apt-get
[03:02] <alexcamilo> How does the ubuntu live/ install CD work?
[03:02] <skippy> while it isnt as good for copying and pasting from IRC, it is very good fun to browse it using the search function to find new programs to try surfnkid
[03:02] <Surfnkid> right the SPM, u mean? i got it going but it was hard to find all those pkgs
[03:02] <gnomefreak> alexcamilo: its works like a live cd but has an install icon on desktop
[03:02] <Boelcke> What's the right format for a hostname?  (Trying to replace IP address that works in my CUPS clients.conf file)
[03:03] <skippy> yeah surfnkid, synaptic package manager is crap when you have specific files to get
[03:03] <alexcamilo> i was looking for a little more technical description.
[03:03] <Surfnkid> thank you!
[03:03] <skippy> but it is great if you want to seach for say.. a "html editor" or something like that
[03:03] <Surfnkid> now i dont feel that bad
[03:03] <skippy> i love synaptic
[03:03] <andrejkw> Hmm, where does the Trash Can reside?
[03:03] <swim> can I use a blah.build to create a package for ubuntu?
[03:03] <gnomefreak> alexcamilo: to get more technical you have to give me more of what you want to know
[03:03] <andrejkw> Inside what folder?
[03:03] <skippy> but if you are installing a list of packages apt-get is better
[03:03] <Surfnkid> by the way, i enabled the 3d desktop
[03:04] <Surfnkid> how do i get that going :P
[03:04] <skippy> 3d desktop? never heard of it lol
[03:04] <Boelcke> andrejkw in your home directory, but it's hidden.  .trash
[03:04] <andrejkw> Boelcke: thanks
[03:04] <skippy> i use compiz/xgl
[03:04] <Surfnkid> its ok
[03:04] <skippy> i think ive heard of 3d desktop actually, i will find you the tread to read
[03:04] <Boelcke> I just learned that another hidden folder in there, .thumbs, should be cleaned out regularly.  It keeps EVERY thumbnail ever created for nautilus
[03:05] <alexcamilo> gnomefreak: i remember someone telling me it works out of a 'ramdisk'. how is it created. how is it loaded into memory. what on the cd does these tasks?
[03:05] <Surfnkid> cheers mate
[03:05] <Surfnkid> its finished downloading/installing the packages. should i check anything else?
[03:05] <Sanne> Trashcan, /etc/rcS.d/README might also help
[03:05] <swim> does Anyone know if I can use a blah.build file to create an ubuntu package?
[03:05] <skippy> Surfnkid, nah for now just test em out
[03:05] <Boelcke> Can someone suggest another format for putting a hostname in my clients.conf file?  When I put the IP address, that works fine, but the server machine's IP can change...
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> skippy,  i saw a live cd demo of one (that was in java) and it sucked. :P lol
[03:06] <Surfnkid> oh ok should i open totem
[03:06] <skippy> yeah Dr, i dont like the looks of it myself :)
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> skippy,  i dont care much for the "useablity" of it. :)
[03:06] <gnomefreak> alexcamilo: the cd is a bootable snapshot (iso) theres an underlying angine (for lack of better words) called casper that does everything to load it iirc
[03:06] <skippy> yeah or jsut click on an mp3 file Surf,and see if it plays
[03:06] <Napoleon> how come I'm on a system with "bash 3.0" and it's so different from  bash?
[03:06] <Surfnkid> ok
[03:06] <swim> Hello?
[03:06] <skippy> basically i use pretty stuff when i have mates round Dr_Willis, and then switch it off when they gone :)
[03:06] <Napoleon> delete key makes a "~" and you can't view stuff in directories you don't have read access to like you can in  bash by using the tab function
[03:07] <tehubersheezy> how do i get back into gnome after exiting into terminal mode?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> tehubersheezy: ctrl+alt+f7
[03:07] <skippy> Surfnkid here is the link to the 3d desktop thread i promised you http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100167&highlight=3d+desktop
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> skippy,  :P
[03:07] <skippy> :)
[03:07] <mikedouglas> How would I go about resizing an lvm2 partition (not the logical volume)?
[03:07] <alexcamilo> gnomefreak: is this the same for the install and live disks? just the install is an iso of an installer and the life is an iso of a system? or is ot someting different
[03:07] <dizy> hi.. newbie here.. wondering if anyone could help me get apple shake running ... when i try to run it i get "bash: bin/shake: /bin/csh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory"
[03:07] <Seveas> dizy, sudo apt-get install csh
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> skippy,  these are the windows users that ask "whats that secret key you are using to delete files instead of dragging them to the trash?" and you reply.. "The Delete Key, of course"
[03:08] <dizy> thanks seveas will try
[03:08] <skippy> haha
[03:08] <gerardomt> Hi
[03:08] <gerardomt> Can you help me?
[03:08] <skippy> :)
[03:08] <gerardomt> I'm trying to install mi printer under ubuntu but I can't
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> skippy,  then they ask what the "insert" key does then?
[03:08] <gnomefreak> alexcamilo: not sure that deep into it
[03:08] <jhenn> is there a way to switch desktops using scroll whell in breezy/gnome/metacity?
[03:08] <dizy> Seveas...   E: Couldn't find package csh
[03:08] <skippy> :P
[03:08] <nikkiana> so... my fiance installed a new graphics card on his computer, he downloded the drivers and that seems to work fine, but it won't recognize the Open GL drivers... any thoughts?
[03:08] <swim> does Anyone know if I can use a blah.build file to create an ubuntu package?
[03:08] <Seveas> !info csh
[03:08] <ubotu> csh: (Shell with C-like syntax, standard login shell on BSD systems), section universe/shells, is optional. Version: 20050313-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 233 kB, Installed size: 384 kB
[03:08] <bbfgffdfs55> Somebody know the ubuntu chanel for french users??
[03:08] <jhenn> like hold alt and scroll wheel to switch.  if not i want that feature :)
[03:08] <Seveas> dizy, enable universe
[03:08] <gnomefreak> bbfgffdfs55: #ubuntu-fr
[03:08] <alexcamilo> ah ok
[03:08] <nickrud> jhenn, yeah, put your mouse over the windows in the menubar and scroll
[03:08] <Seveas> !universe
[03:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:08] <alexcamilo> thanx
[03:09] <bbfgffdfs55> thanks
[03:09] <blaze> where can i add differend keyboard language in KDE?
[03:09] <jhenn> nickrud: oh thats nice
[03:09] <Boelcke> gerardomt, what's the problem?  What printer?
[03:09] <jhenn> nickrud: thansk
[03:09] <dizy> Seveas, how do i enable universe
[03:09] <jef__> am i correct in my memory that 5.10ppc supported the apple airport (non-extreme) with no config? I almost 99% positive that when I installed it set it all up with no config at all (other than to choose dhcp).
[03:09] <nickrud> jhenn, I had about 500 messages waiting, I'm waiting for spamassassin
[03:09] <dizy> oh
[03:09] <skippy> hehe ive been on IRC for ages, Ive played through 3 Joy Division albums now :)
[03:09] <dizy> ok
[03:09] <jhenn> nickrud: with gmail?
[03:10] <Surfnkid> thank you skippy for those steps, the player is now playing my mp3's! :) whats a good player instead of totem
[03:10] <tehubersheezy> xine
[03:10] <nickrud> jhenn, no, I'm an evo user, gmail is just a store for me
[03:10] <blaze> where can i add differend keyboard language in KDE?
[03:10] <skippy> xmms is really good surfnkid
[03:10] <Surfnkid> ok
[03:10] <jhenn> nickrud: oh
[03:10] <skippy> you can skin it with winamp skins, which is a real bonus
[03:10] <jhenn> nickrud: forward?
[03:10] <skippy> its also fast and small :)
[03:10] <Surfnkid> i assume its not preinstalled :P
[03:10] <skippy> beep media player is very similar
[03:10] <skippy> nope, just search it on synaptic
[03:11] <Surfnkid> ah ok
[03:11] <Surfnkid> whats the section for the players, multimedia
[03:11] <skippy> the best ones are: beep media player, xmms, VLC
[03:11] <skippy> yeah, but you can just do a search from the edit menu
[03:11] <nickrud> jhenn, yes, forward everything to gmail, get from gmail to impa
[03:11] <nickrud> *imap
[03:11] <gnomefreak> Seveas: thank you for adding that topic to the agenda
[03:11] <Surfnkid> right
[03:12] <Surfnkid> ok thanks mate, gonna give it a shot
[03:12] <skippy> yeah get xmms
[03:12] <tehubersheezy> eh i need help installing nvidia graphics driver
[03:12] <jhenn> tehubersheezy: thats not supported
[03:12] <^snail^> tehuber, what do you need? I did that today
[03:13] <tehubersheezy> jhenn:what do you mean it's not supported
[03:13] <tehubersheezy> i just don't know how to do it
[03:13] <skippy> surfnkid, once youve downloaded xmms you can head over to http://classic.winamp.com/skins/browse.php?category=997&ctype=S and grab a funky skin for it
[03:13] <tehubersheezy> every time i try to follow the instructions in the wiki my computer just doesn' tstart up to gnome
[03:13] <skippy> and if you have a big media collection, Rhythmbox is good for organising it
[03:14] <Surfnkid> ah
[03:14] <Surfnkid> wicked
[03:14] <jhenn> tehubersheezy: what don't you understand about "its not supported"
[03:14] <Napoleon> skippy: in theory
[03:14] <jhenn> i don't know i could be wrong but I'm pretty sure
[03:14] <swim> FOLKS, I need this package, but ubuntu package search says its only available for warty, and hoary, but Im using dapper:  libqt3c102-mt
[03:14] <Surfnkid> do these have equalizers, my sound is flat out crappy
[03:14] <skippy> yeah it does
[03:14] <linux_newbie2> tehubersheezy: look up EasyUbuntu in google
[03:14] <swim> suggestions?
[03:14] <skippy> right click on xmms and enable the equiliser panel
[03:14] <jhenn> tehubersheezy: if your computer starts behaving in ways in which you do not tell it how to, don't blame me
[03:14] <Napoleon> tehubersheezy: using breezy or dapper?
[03:14] <^snail^> tehubersheezy : try http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[03:14] <gnomefreak> swim: libqt3-mt iirc
[03:14] <tehubersheezy> breezy
[03:15] <swim> gnomefreak: sorry?
[03:15] <Napoleon> tehubersheezy: and what's wrong with the instructions ubotu gives?
[03:15] <Napoleon> !nvidia
[03:15] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:15] <gnomefreak> swim: apt-cache search libqt3
[03:15] <skippy> tehubersheezy, what error message does xserver give when it refuses to boot
[03:15] <Surfnkid> is xmule the Windows eMule version to dl files?
[03:15] <skippy> surfnkid, i think amule is more similar
[03:15] <swim> gnomefreak: ok, but that exact package name is not available?
[03:15] <tehubersheezy> have no idea
[03:15] <Surfnkid> ah
[03:15] <swim> no question mark there
[03:16] <gambit> i have an error saying 2 files are sharing,/usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1.0.0
[03:16] <gambit>    /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1
[03:16] <gambit>   what should i do
[03:16] <Surfnkid> ah mosquito in the room!!!
[03:16] <Surfnkid> chase it1!
[03:16] <skippy> but i dont like those programs, i use bittorent and usenet for "downloadz" :P
[03:16] <tehubersheezy> gtg be back afte rthis
[03:16] <gnomefreak> swim: hold on a sec
[03:16] <Surfnkid> oh oh
[03:16] <Surfnkid> k
[03:16] <swim> gnomefreak: ok
[03:16] <halibut> when is the best time for me to install ubuntu? ie: the next "major" release
[03:16] <halibut> (I don't want to try beta versions)
[03:16] <skippy> halibut the next major realease is in about 2 days :D
[03:16] <linux_newbie2> Dapper comes out June 1
[03:16] <Surfnkid> found xmms installing now
[03:17] <skippy> Dapper Drake, to be honest halibut you may as well just download it now
[03:17] <skippy> it really wont change much in 2 days :D
[03:17] <corey> i just upgraded to dapper
[03:17] <linux_newbie2> skippy: honestly, I am not confident in dapper
[03:17] <thanr01> i just installed dapper drive ppc server cd and i have no x? just looking at a console atm :S
[03:17] <halibut> ok thanks guys
[03:17] <thanr01> *drive = drake
[03:17] <gnomefreak> swim: if you run apt-cache search libqt3 you will have a list the one you want s libqt3-mt
[03:17] <halibut> which version of kernal will it have?
[03:17] <skippy> really linux_newbie2? Im the opposite, i wasnt too impressed with breezy but dapper is great
[03:17] <linux_newbie2> skippy: I had two people on here trying to help me upgrade to it and we got stuck when x wouldn't start and I ended up reloading breezy today
[03:17] <skippy> ive found it to be rock solid stability wise
[03:18] <gnomefreak> !info libqt3-mt
[03:18] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: (Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3), section libs, is optional. Version: 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 3213 kB, Installed size: 9036 kB
[03:18] <skippy> linux, upgrading does go wrong, ill accept that
[03:18] <skippy> it went wrong for me actually
[03:18] <skippy> but installing clean from a CD is normally perfect
[03:18] <swim> gnomefreak: are you saying that libqt3-mt is libqt3c102-mt?
[03:18] <linux_newbie2> skippy: XP
[03:18] <skippy> there is an issue with vwdial which needs to be sorted out though
[03:19] <gnomefreak> the new name of the package is libqt3-mt
[03:19] <skippy> what went wrong with your instal l then linux_newbie2? im sorry to hear it gave you grief
[03:19] <Surfnkid> xmms running skippy, thanks now ill have to work on the video card and the fans on the laptop but for now ill take a break
[03:19] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:19] <linux_newbie2> skippy: when I booted into the new kernel X wouldn't start and gave errors
[03:19] <skippy> cool suft, good to know your up and runing
[03:20] <dizy> Seveas, that worked but now it sais i dont have libstdc++.so.5   when I try apt-get on that it cant find that package
[03:20] <skippy> hmm, thats wierd that breezy worked and dapper didnt linux
[03:20] <skippy> a bad sign
[03:20] <linux_newbie2> skippy: Unable to find a valid framebuffer device, NV(0): failed to open framebuffer device, etc.
[03:20] <thanr01> i just did a fresh install of dapper on myibook and i have no x :(
[03:20] <skippy> what video card do you have?
[03:20] <thanr01> startx does nothing
[03:20] <linux_newbie2> skippy: GeForce 4 Go 440
[03:21] <skippy> that is wierd, a very popular laptop card, should be supported really
[03:21] <skippy> laptops can be difficult though, i normally have to use "noacpi and nolapic" when i install on a laptop
[03:21] <linux_newbie2> skippy: and that's after it failed to install some packages on upgrade and they walked me through a dozen apt-get and dpkg steps
[03:21] <Clint-> hello everyone, the ubuntu rc is really a nice switch, from my hard work I was doing on breezy badger, :-)
[03:22] <skippy> linux_newbie, when you get a chance you should post your story on the offical forums
[03:22] <Clint-> I am going migrate from VMware Workstation 5.0 to 5.5 on this, and get the Laptop blazing, maybe altering from sysv-rc-conf to bum, and other tools for services and run levels :-)
[03:22] <linux_newbie2> skippy: ok
[03:22] <skippy> i posted the vwdial issue today
[03:23] <skippy> the forums are awesome :)
[03:23] <Clint-> hi skippy :-)
[03:23] <skippy> elo Clint :)
[03:23] <skippy> hehe Mark Shuttleworth is probably flying past Mars at the moment
[03:23] <skippy> :)
[03:23] <skippy> ubuntu should really have a space theme
[03:24] <blaze> i'm having problems with the kde keyboard tool
[03:24] <blaze> can someone help me/
[03:24] <dizy> im getting "libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file" ... i tried apt-get on that file but it can't find that package... does anyone know what the name of the package is that will install that for me
[03:26] <cocox> hi i want to install a gdesklet and in the readme says that i must copy a directory into my home/user/.gdesklet ... but i dont have one... i dont know if i must create it or what =???
[03:26] <skippy> dizy try "sudo apt-get libstdc++5"
[03:26] <corey> blaze:  KDE questions are better in #kubuntu
[03:27] <nickrud> dizy, sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[03:27] <dizy> thank you skippy&nickrud
[03:27] <blaze> 10x corey
[03:27] <nickrud> heh, I gotta remember to read back
[03:27] <nickrud> or between, anyway
[03:28] <skippy> :)
[03:28] <skippy> i do that all the time on the forums
[03:28] <skippy> one i literally posted an identical paragraph to the guy above me :P
[03:28] <nickrud> skippy, if you only knew just what crap blew down on me once cuz I didn't
[03:28] <Gronk> hey skippy: sorry mate - u know that advice u gave me earlier - do u know how I cld revert to the Ubuntu defaults of whatever - i seem to have lost a great deal of picture quality & crispness to my avi playback...
[03:29] <helpneeded> can someone help with a dapper ? iv been sitting for a while now in theother room and no ones answering
[03:29] <linux_newbie2> skippy: where on the forums should I post my Dapper upgrade "experience"
[03:29] <nickrud> there's nothing like having every single ubuntu biggie swoop in on the channel on you :)
[03:30] <skippy> i recommend this page http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=111
[03:30] <skippy> helpneeded fire away :)
[03:30] <Boelcke> What's the right format for my hostname?  (Trying to replace IP address that works in my CUPS clients.conf file)
[03:30] <helpneeded> finnaly  lol
[03:30] <skippy> gronk yes mate we can revert
[03:31] <skippy> right i believe all we did was run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:31] <Gronk> skippy: oh good
[03:31] <skippy> now did you do that backup trick i posted?
[03:31] <helpneeded> listen im having a problem during text based install for some unknown reason wont go past a certaiin point ...
[03:31] <Gronk> skippy: um...
[03:31] <Gronk> not really
[03:31] <Gronk> impatient like
[03:31] <helpneeded> iv already tried the gui installer ( todays buld and its hanging)
[03:31] <skippy> its not the end of teh world if you didnt :D
[03:31] <skippy> ok this is what we are doing to do
[03:32] <helpneeded> so im trying the text based
[03:32] <skippy> open up a lerminal gronk
[03:32] <Napoleon> somebody please help, I've asked before but no help was given, this problem is such a big deal that I may need to switch away from ubuntu... I have 1 gig of memory and no matter what I do, it's always used up
[03:32] <Gronk> skippy: done
[03:32] <skippy> by the way, are you registered? if you are you can pm me
[03:32] <eugman> Is there a way to install a ssh server on a computer but make it so only one account is accessable?
[03:32] <Gronk> skippy: & thanks gain mate, ur a lifesaver
[03:32] <nickrud> helpneeded, there are some issues in the latestest install releases, I'd suggest installing an older one, or waiting a day or so
[03:32] <skippy> np mate :D
[03:32] <Gronk> skippy: not yet
[03:32] <skippy> ok gronk lets start
[03:33] <skippy> "cd /usr/X11/
[03:33] <helpneeded> mick this has been since flight 5 this problem ....
[03:33] <nickrud> helpneeded, ok, that might be different then.
[03:33] <skippy> soz gronk i meant "cd /etc/X11/
[03:33] <skippy> without the silly quote :D
[03:33] <helpneeded> so its getting to a point  ... ****it
[03:33] <Gronk> that worked better ;)
[03:34] <dizy> how can i check what video driver i have installed ... i have the nvideo 6200 and as soon as i run shake everything gets really slow... just clicking on menu buttons lags a few secconds
[03:34] <helpneeded> if you know what i mean ..lol
[03:34] <nickrud> helpneeded, yeah. do
[03:34] <skippy> dizy, you need to install nvidia drivers
[03:34] <dizy> can you point me somewhere that describes how
[03:34] <skippy> yep getting you link now
[03:34] <dizy> great
[03:35] <helpneeded> ok the text based install readis all the files during install think its about 873 ... tehn goes to teh select and install gests so far and bang comp hangs
[03:36] <helpneeded> not right away
[03:36] <Surfnkid> bigpond amazing broadband
[03:36] <helpneeded> something to do with xserver-xorg
[03:36] <eugman> Anyone here know about ssh? I want to make just one user account accessable by it on my computer.
[03:37] <skippy> dizy : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=nvidia+drivers+install
[03:37] <skippy> ok gronk
[03:37] <dizy> much apreciated skippy
[03:37] <skippy> now you should be in the /etc/X11/ folder
[03:37] <skippy> np dizy
[03:37] <Gronk> skippy: :)
[03:38] <skippy> now gronk type "ls -l *xorg*"  :)
[03:38] <skippy> without the speech marks :D
[03:38] <skippy> it will list all the xorg.conf files you have in your folder
[03:38] <Gronk> & done - so, does that revert to last saved or?
[03:39] <Gronk> ok
[03:39] <skippy> how many came out on the list gronk?
[03:39] <Gronk> list - my bad
[03:39] <nickrud> helpneeded, this is really a stab in the dark, not for redistribution: have tried doing a server install, which ignores xserver?
[03:39] <Gronk> 4
[03:39] <Gronk> skippy: four on the list
[03:39] <xmux> hey
[03:39] <xmux> i want to ask
[03:39] <skippy> ok what are the names? do any have the work "backup" in the name, or do they all just have a ~ sign?
[03:40] <UKMatt> does anyone know if theres a feature in about:config of Firefox that lets you autoscroll when you click down the wheel?
[03:40] <skippy> you should be able to just copy and paste the names from the teminal into here gronk
[03:40] <Gronk> skippy: none of the above, 1 sec, i'll pastebin it
[03:40] <skippy> cool :)
[03:41] <Gronk> http://pastebin.com/743981
[03:41] <Gronk> thats the link
[03:41] <Masqy> hi guys, I'm running on a regular install, but would like my ubuntu to load only to terminal, and then, at my choice, to be able to start x server manually... any suggestions?
[03:41] <swim> damnit can anyone please help me install this application: http://f4l.sourceforge.net/
[03:42] <s|k> I can't seem to unmute my computer
[03:42] <s|k> anyone know what I can do to fix that?
[03:42] <skippy> hmm gronk
[03:43] <floydwilde> Should I upgrade to dapper or wait till the official release?  Either way I got to upgrade breezy.
[03:43] <skippy> we dont have a decent backup in there
[03:43] <Gronk> lol
[03:43] <skippy> so do this, type "sudo gedit xorg.conf"
[03:43] <Gronk> is there somewhere I cld find out the installed defaults?
[03:43] <skippy> to be honest mate, the only think we want to change is the name of the driver really
[03:44] <Gronk> fair enuff
[03:44] <skippy> so just gedit it and we can change the work "sis" to "vesa"
[03:44] <skippy> i assume "vesa" was what was selected before, it almost always is on a default setup
[03:44] <floydwilde> I tried an test upgrade a while back and xorg didn't work like instantly, so I'm kinda hesitant
[03:44] <odat> i have a machine that i just put ubuntu on and it won't connect to the internet  it does in recoverymode just fine but not from the desktop
[03:45] <floydwilde> which version?
[03:45] <Gronk> skippy: & just save?
[03:45] <swim> someone please?
[03:45] <skippy> ok gronk have you got the file open?
[03:45] <PORDO> whenever i come back from screensaver, i get the "shut down" dialog thing with the six choices on it.
[03:45] <skippy> you want to change only one thing
[03:45] <Gronk> i do, & updated the driver
[03:45] <PORDO> at least dapper got rid of that clearly black face icon.
[03:45] <skippy> ok, so it now says vesa instead of sis?
[03:46] <PORDO> god...an icon for a human that literally expressed race...reprehensible.
[03:46] <Gronk> Driver		"vesa"
[03:46] <skippy> ok cool
[03:46] <cocox> how can i install a tar.bz2 ??
[03:46] <skippy> now save it
[03:46] <floydwilde> bunzip2
[03:46] <UKMatt> does anyone know if theres a feature in about:config of Firefox that lets you autoscroll when you click down the wheel?
[03:46] <odat> i have a machine that i just put ubuntu on and it won't connect to the internet  it does in recoverymode just fine but not from the desktop
[03:46] <Gronk> skippy: so, ready to test with an avi now?
[03:47] <skippy> nope, you will have to reboot gronk
[03:47] <Gronk> ok
[03:47] <skippy> but before you do
[03:47] <Agrajag> UKMatt: autoscrolling is in the advanced section of the normal configure dialog
[03:47] <Gronk> yes?
[03:47] <twobitsprite> hmm... what packages do I need to install to compile things from source? I don't see GCC in the "Add Aplications" thinger
[03:47] <jmoncayo> if i have wireless adapter can i use it for bluetooth?
[03:47] <skippy> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" write it down gronk
[03:47] <skippy> that way if anything goes wrong you can just go through the menus and pick new options
[03:47] <Napoleon> somebody please help, I've asked before but no help was given, this problem is such a big deal that I may need to switch away from ubuntu... I have 1 gig of memory and no matter what I do, it's always used up
[03:48] <UKMatt> agrajag, yup, there it was, ty
[03:48] <Gronk> done
[03:48] <jmoncayo> if i have wireless adapter can i use it for bluetooth???
[03:48] <twobitsprite> Napoleon, are you sure it's all actually used? where are you getting this info?
[03:48] <Napoleon> twobitsprite: top
[03:48] <Boelcke> Networking question: Do I need to set the Domain Name?
[03:49] <Agrajag> twobitsprite: you need, at a minimum, build-essential
[03:49] <intelikey> any expert help in the house ?
[03:49] <Napoleon> em:   1027760k total,  1014084k used,    13676k free,    96996k buffers
[03:49] <Surfnkid> we're all experts
[03:49] <bdunn> Could anyone give me an idea as to the stability of running Ubuntu as a server?  It seems to be a great platform for a desktop, but how does it work out for a server when compared to very rock solid distros like Redhat or Debian?
[03:49] <intelikey> lol
[03:49] <Gronk> skippy: thanks again, its much appreciated
[03:49] <Surfnkid> :-D
[03:49] <Gronk> rebooting now ;)
[03:49] <twobitsprite> Agrajag, I don'
[03:49] <skippy> ok :D
[03:49] <intelikey> Surfnkid i like that.... :)
[03:49] <twobitsprite> Agrajag, I don't see "build-essential" in the Add Applications thing either...
[03:49] <Surfnkid> hehe
[03:50] <Agrajag> twobitsprite: uh, Add Applications only lists desktop applications
[03:50] <Agrajag> twobitsprite: you should be using Synaptic
[03:50] <twobitsprite> Agrajag, ahh...
[03:50] <AlinuxOS> hello can someone help me with .fonts.config file ? I need to have my personal font configuration... my language is georgian.
[03:50] <skippy> napoleon, my system is the same 1027700k total 916504k 111080k
[03:50] <jhenn> are the microsoft times new roman fonts in multiverse?
[03:50] <skippy> its just the way linux manages memory
[03:51] <skippy> the kernel grabs more memory than is needed and distrobutes it :) it is perfectly normal
[03:51] <intelikey> i've got an unbootable system that i just booted.....  hehhe now how do i make it bootable ?
[03:51] <skippy> intelikey, i assume you mean that you have lost Grub?
[03:51] <skippy> and you want to install it?
[03:51] <intelikey> skippy no
[03:52] <intelikey> i don't have a usable initramfs.img skippy  and i've rebuilt it five times.
[03:52] <twobitsprite> Napoleon, are you noticing any slowdown or thrashing? how does your cache look?
[03:52] <Gronk> skippy: worked! avis = back to nice n clear
[03:52] <skippy> good
[03:53] <Napoleon> twobitsprite: yeah it's really slow, two second delay using my brush on gimp
[03:53] <Gronk> skippy: ur a legend
[03:53] <Napoleon> wap:   933724k total,        0k used,   933724k free,   567592k cached
[03:53] <Masqy> hi guys, I'm running on a regular install, but would like my ubuntu to load only to terminal, and then, at my choice, to be able to start x server manually... any calls?
[03:53] <skippy> at some point it is worth doing a bit of research on your hardware, and seeing if there is a more suitable graphics driver
[03:53] <linux_newbie2> bdunn: I haven't run Ubuntu on a server and don't have a ton of experience with it, but I'd like to point out that Ubuntu releases are based on Debian development and then fixed up
[03:53] <skippy> good to know its allright now gronk :)
[03:53] <Gronk> skippy: yeah, will do
[03:53] <linux_newbie2> bdunn: so if you would run debian stable on your server, Ubuntu might be a little too unstable for you
[03:54] <Gronk> well cya, I'm off - late 4 work as it is, cheers
[03:54] <twobitsprite> configure says: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[03:54] <bdunn> linux_newbie2: Thanks.  Good point.
[03:54] <twobitsprite> I don't see anything for x includes in synaptic under development
[03:55] <Agrajag> twobitsprite: xorg-dev
[03:55] <skippy> bdunn, i suggest you give dapper a couple of months to 'mature' and then try it
[03:55] <cello_rasp> hi. can one get a "proper" ver of dapper before june?
[03:55] <skippy> it is pretty well supported by the community which is a bonus
[03:55] <Surfnkid> dude i can play streaming files too from the net thanks skippy
[03:55] <Surfnkid> www.nova969.com.au
[03:55] <skippy> well cello_rasp, you can download release candidtate 1
[03:55] <linux_newbie2> bdunn: I have to agree with skippy in general about the support
[03:56] <skippy> on the 1st of june just run update and you will have a final version, cello :)
[03:56] <skippy> debian seems to have become a bit quiet lately
[03:56] <cello_rasp> ah very simple. mature meaning security, bugfixes etc?
[03:56] <intelikey> cello_rasp yes
[03:56] <twobitsprite> aranjan, I don't see xorg-dev, and when I search for it, I see it listed on the left column, but not in the main selection panel...
[03:57] <Agrajag> twobitsprite: just run apt-get install xorg-dev
[03:57] <cello_rasp> skippy, debian is generally quite quiet. they trundle along though. that's the cost of a 100% rock solid stable distro
[03:57] <skippy> well basically, my point is that when any new OS comes out you want to wait a little while to see if it gets hacked etc
[03:57] <Agrajag> well, sudo apt-get install xorg-dev
[03:57] <skippy> but dapper is the final product now really
[03:57] <twobitsprite> Agrajag, hmm... that would work... I'd still like to think I could find it in synaptic... one of the reasons I switched to ubuntu was because it seems more modern with it's interfaces...
[03:57] <skippy> a RC very rarely changes much, the only changes to dapper will be superficial, little icons etc
[03:57] <Agrajag> twobitsprite: did you enable the universe repository?
[03:58] <skippy> and chello_rasp i agree that debaian is a very solid distro
[03:58] <cello_rasp> if dapper is the matureation of the current ubuntu "generation", then i can't wait to see how eft will work
[03:58] <twobitsprite> Agrajag, I thought so...
[03:58] <skippy> eft will be crazy
[03:58] <odat> i have a machine that i just put ubuntu on and it won't connect to the internet  it does in recoverymode just fine but not from the desktop
[03:58] <skippy> :)
[03:58] <jrsims> hey, is there an xgl install for ubuntu?
[03:58] <Agrajag> Well, I promise you that that is the package name, I'm looking at it right now
[03:58] <skippy> what i want to know is what the hell is an eft? :D
[03:58] <nickrud> !xgl
[03:58] <ubotu> well, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[03:58] <Agrajag> jrsims: there's a thread on the forums about xgl, one second...
[03:58] <skippy> jrsims what is your platform
[03:58] <cello_rasp> skippy: i think its a baby newt
[03:59] <linux_newbie2> skippy: if dapper is not going to be pushed back I think I will just skip it or wait 3 months
[03:59] <nickrud> skippy, it's a baby salamander
[03:59] <skippy> hehe really?
[03:59] <cello_rasp> ah
[03:59] <jrsims> I'm on Breezy right now/
[03:59] <skippy> how cool
[03:59] <linux_newbie2> skippy: yeah, Mark talked about it
[03:59] <Agrajag> jrsims: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
[03:59] <skippy> i thought the Daper Drake was a dragon until i saw the silly little duck picture lol
[03:59] <linux_newbie2> I assumed that too
[03:59] <IcemanV9> eft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development
[03:59] <nickrud> there was a vote & the dragon lost out
[03:59] <jrsims> so is xgl on ubuntu pretty solid, or still "edgy"?
[03:59] <Surfnkid> hey skippy, i click on a streaming file online and asks what proggy to open with, defaults with totem but i want xmms to play it, so where is the folder that has the xmms proggy
[04:00] <Agrajag> jrsims: I broke it trying to update it, so I'd say it's not stable
[04:00] <nickrud> jrsims, more than edgy, more like walking on the edge
[04:00] <skippy> ok Surfnkid, that will be a firefox option most likely
[04:00] <jrsims> ah, too bad
[04:00] <skippy> are you using "the fox"?
[04:00] <Agrajag> Surfnkid: almost all of your binaries are in /usr/bin
[04:00] <jrsims> so wait, is dapper supposed to have solid xgl?
[04:00] <twobitsprite> Agrajag, what line would be in the sources.list for universe?
[04:00] <skippy> jrsims, no definately not
[04:00] <Masqy> how can I 'detach' an application from the terminal that ran it, i.e., I run xmms from a terminal, if I ever at some point close that terminal, xmms dies...
[04:00] <skippy> xgl is not officially supported on dapper
[04:01] <jrsims> what is dapper? just a dressed up breezy?
[04:01] <cello_rasp> argh.
[04:01] <Surfnkid> oh ok
[04:01] <IcemanV9> xmms &
[04:01] <Agrajag> twobitsprite: I have deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe main restricted multiverse
[04:01] <skippy> no Dapper is a real redistb
[04:01] <skippy> its been worked from the ground up
[04:01] <skippy> it is very different to breezy
[04:01] <Masqy> IcemanV9: that doesn't do the job....
[04:01] <intelikey> ok let me post my question,  the kernel and initramfs.img boot to an emergency 'busybox' shell  where i have to modprobe aic7xxx & ext2   then mknod /dev/sda1  and mount the system on /root then exit and it goes ahead and boots.  well at least far enough i can fix the rest in the init scripts...  anyway, how the heck to i automate that three step process in the initramfs ?
[04:01] <jrsims> skippy: oh, will I have to reinstall over breezy?
[04:01] <skippy> jrsims, you can upgrade if you want to
[04:02] <skippy> but it can go wrong, i estimate in about 5% of cases
[04:02] <skippy> so you want to be backed up 1st
[04:02] <jrsims> skippy: not bad
[04:02] <twobitsprite> skippy, then what would I see in sources.list that would include xorg-dev?
[04:02] <Napoleon> twobitsprite: any ideas?
[04:02] <cello_rasp> jrsims: to include many of the software upgrades they need to be teweaked and bugfixed. you couldn't just throw on a new version of gnome you see.
[04:02] <twobitsprite> Napoleon, nope, sorry
[04:02] <twobitsprite> Napoleon, you could try vanilla debian
[04:02] <IcemanV9> Masqy: it works find on my box.
[04:02] <cello_rasp> well, not without it probably breaking
[04:02] <mikedouglas> How long should it take to resize a ext3 filesystem from 250G to 100G? My system is taking forever.
[04:02] <IcemanV9> Masqy: xmms still runs when i closed the terminal
[04:03] <Masqy> Icemanv9:  in mine it gracefully dies :(
[04:03] <twobitsprite> Napoleon, I don't want to discourage you though... I'm sure there's a rational explanation, I just don't know what it is...
[04:03] <skippy> twibitsprite xorg-dev is an officially supported package
[04:03] <intelikey> mikedouglas forever and a day.
[04:03] <skippy> it will be in the main repository of your version of ubuntu
[04:03] <twobitsprite> skippy, "E: Couldn't find package xorg-dev"
[04:03] <skippy> hmm
[04:03] <IcemanV9> Masqy: hm. let me see ...
[04:03] <Agrajag> twobitsprite: have you run apt-get update?
[04:03] <twobitsprite> last night... I'll try again
[04:03] <nickrud> cello_rasp, yeah, it is a tightly tied distro. Partially intentional, partly desperation, I think
[04:04] <mikedouglas> intelikey: good, as long as it'll finish before the Vista release.
[04:04] <Agrajag> well, last night and today won't change much, something's wrong
[04:04] <intelikey> :)
[04:04] <nickrud> s/desperation/insparation/
[04:04] <cello_rasp> heh
[04:04] <Agrajag> you're not still using hoary or something are you?
[04:04] <cello_rasp> i'm kind of saddened about the xgl being unofficial but then using breezy gnome feels kind of broken in places anyway.
[04:04] <skippy> twobitsprite open a terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:05] <IcemanV9> Masqy: i don't know what to say. it just simply works on mine. i cannot see how to troubleshoot. sorry. :/
[04:05] <jhenn> in breezy what is the package name for X?
[04:05] <Agrajag> xserver-xorg
[04:05] <cello_rasp> question about compiz: if it is a window manager, would it conflict with people wanting stuff like e17's apple-like launcherbar?
[04:06] <Masqy> IcemanV9: you open a new terminal, simply type 'xmms &' then quit the terminal, and the xmms still runs?
[04:06] <IcemanV9> Masqy: yes
[04:06] <amachu> hi
[04:06] <amachu> i installed java in /jdk1.5.0_07
[04:06] <amachu> how to set path
[04:07] <Masqy> IcemanV9:  but what if you press the 'X' icon of the terminal ?
[04:07] <cello_rasp> is there any way to get an email notification panel applet for use with thunderbird?
[04:07] <IcemanV9> Masqy: bingo. interesting. okay. you got something. :)
[04:08] <Masqy> IcemanV9: I sometimes use  windowmaker (instead of gnome) and there I got this problem...
[04:08] <twobitsprite> skippy, k
[04:08] <Masqy> IcemanV9: (even if you type 'exit')
[04:08] <skippy> masqy why dont you just use "run" and type in the name
[04:08] <skippy> or create a launcher?
[04:08] <Masqy> skippy: guess I should 'man run' now :)
[04:08] <skippy> ok twobitsprite these are the contents of my sources.list:-
[04:08] <amachu> i installed java in /jdk1.5.0_07, how to set java_home
[04:09] <Agrajag> Masqy: so don't hit the X
[04:09] <skippy> masqy alt and f2
[04:09] <skippy> then type in xmms
[04:09] <Agrajag> Masqy: just run xmms&, then log out of the terminal
[04:09] <Agrajag> hit ctrl-d in the terminal
[04:09] <Rodietze> hey
[04:09] <IcemanV9> skippy: yes, there are a few way to run it, but he specified to the terminal issue.
[04:09] <eggzeck> Masqy, you can't 'man run
[04:09] <eggzeck> ;)
[04:09] <Rodietze> on hp pavilion amd64, I need to install ubuntu 64 bits?
[04:09] <funky> "restricted" is the name of a repository ?
[04:09] <hanasaki> gam_server  is chewing up my cpu.. i reniced ti to 16 and its still got the biggest %cpu in the top command
[04:09] <skippy> twobitsprite, line 1: "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse "
[04:10] <Masqy> eggzeck: (got it). Ok, how can I emulate the action of run, using the terminal ?
[04:10] <skippy> line 2: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[04:10] <bintrue> if I want to run a command like (syndaemon -di .3) everytime X loads, where is the best place to put it?
[04:10] <Masqy> (in windowmaker I don't think I have the run)
[04:10] <intelikey> funky yep
[04:10] <skippy> line 3 deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[04:10] <Agrajag> Masqy: run xmms&, then select the terminal window and hit ctrl-d
[04:10] <funky> intelikey: ok
[04:10] <eggzeck> Masqy, xmms (in term runs the prog)
[04:10] <Agrajag> just don't close the terminal with the X
[04:10] <AngryElf> guys, i'm having a hard time getting the coaxial/optical out on my on-board sound working
[04:10] <skippy> thats it Twobitsprite, tick those 3 lines into the top of your file
[04:10] <IcemanV9> Masqy: try this > nohup xmms &
[04:10] <Agrajag> when you do that it kills the shell running in it, logging out leaves bash and anything it's controlling running
[04:11] <AngryElf> then green plug (standard front/L/R channels) works fine
[04:11] <eggzeck> Masqy, xmms (is the command) and type the ampersand '&' runs it in the background
[04:11] <Napoleon> somebody please help, I've asked before but no help was given, this problem is such a big deal that I may need to switch away from ubuntu... I have 1 gig of memory and no matter what I do, it's always used up
[04:11] <skippy> then save the file and run "apt-get update" from a terminal Twobitsprite
[04:11] <spikeb> Rodietze: you don't need it, no.
[04:11] <Masqy> eggzeck: yeah, but after you quit the terminal , it has no output/input interfaces, and so it dies
[04:11] <skippy> Napolean, i swear your cutting and pasting that message :)
[04:11] <Agrajag> Napoleon: linux always uses almost all of your memory
[04:11] <Masqy> trying nohup xmms &..
[04:11] <eggzeck> Masqy, so do this: xmms &
[04:11] <Napoleon> Agrajag: I get like a 2 second delay with my brush in the gimp... this is killing me
[04:11] <Rodietze> spikeb u sure? so why the 64 bits version?
[04:11] <nickrud> Napoleon, that's a feature, it caches stuff from the disk
[04:12] <Agrajag> Napoleon: so what's using it?
[04:12] <eggzeck> Masqy, then type: exit
[04:12] <spikeb> Rodietze: it's optional, for people who want a 64bit OS
[04:12] <Codenut> where can I find a good tutorial on chmod ????
[04:12] <skippy> Napolean, the kernel is sitting on it
[04:12] <Napoleon> nothing according to top is 'using' much of it
[04:12] <skippy> its not  aproblem
[04:12] <Rodietze> spikeb thank you so much!
[04:12] <mrglass> how do i get root password from default install ?
[04:12] <Napoleon> It certainly is.
[04:12] <Agrajag> What does free say?
[04:12] <Masqy> so the nohup seems to work... now I'll try it on the windowmaker
[04:12] <Napoleon> If it's supposed to bel ike this then ubuntu has problems.
[04:12] <intelikey> Napoleon your ram is not 'used' it's 'allocated'
[04:12] <nickrud> mrglass, recommended method is sudo -i
[04:12] <Masqy> be back soon, and thanks all.
[04:12] <spikeb> Napoleon: no, it is not a problem.
[04:12] <IcemanV9> Napoleon: free -m and look at the line -/+ buffers/cache: ...  free column
[04:12] <skippy> it is supposed to be that way i promise, my memory is the same and my PC is like lightening
[04:12] <eggzeck> Masqy, you're not doing what I said, heh
[04:12] <Napoleon> If I draw a line on the gimp it will show up 2 seconds later, literally.
[04:13] <spikeb> the problem is bad performance ;)
[04:13] <Napoleon> And that's with a 2.8ghz processor and 1gig ram
[04:13] <spikeb> Rodietze: you're welcome
[04:13] <mrglass> nickrud: still need a password :/
[04:13] <intelikey> Napoleon maybe turn off swap  ?
[04:13] <Agrajag> Napoleon: for example, I'm using 981 megs according to free but +- buffers/cache I'm only using 386
[04:13] <nickrud> mrglass, sudo passwd root
[04:13] <Agrajag> intelikey: that would make it worse
[04:13] <katie_> hello?
[04:13] <spikeb> he has a problem with something actually causing bad performance, though
[04:13] <intelikey> no it wont Agrajag
[04:13] <Napoleon> Well regardless of how much I'm really 'using'... it's slow as heck
[04:13] <nickrud> mrglass, your user password first, then root's password twice
[04:13] <Agrajag> yeah, some process must be eating that ram
[04:14] <AngryElf> what sound system does Ubuntu use by default?
[04:14] <spikeb> AngryElf: alsa
[04:14] <Agrajag> alsa
[04:14] <Rhisc> hey
[04:14] <skippy> Napolean I have 1gb of ram and 94700k free 933000k used and I am running fast
[04:14] <skippy> Your memory readings are not related to the problem of the delayed gimpage
[04:14] <Agrajag> skippy: unless it's not just buffers/cache
[04:15] <Agrajag> Napoleon: run free
[04:15] <intelikey> spikeb maybe sujest xtop
[04:15] <mrglass> tnx nickrud <3
[04:15] <Agrajag> and tell us what the second line says
[04:15] <skippy> good idea
[04:15] <skippy> :)
[04:16] <skippy> i suggest that you try opening another program (openoffice writer is pretty heavy) and see if you get noticable lag when writing etc
[04:16] <intelikey> i have 98m ram and no swap and run fine  but i can't gimp a very large image...
[04:17] <skippy> i want to know if that "swapiness" kernel parameter actually does anything
[04:17] <Rhisc> is there a way to turn of window dragging by holding alt?
[04:18] <uboat> I'm happlly running  6.06 lts release.
[04:18] <skippy> same here
[04:18] <skippy> loving it :)
[04:18] <uboat> I love the heck out of it.
[04:18] <skippy> the Dapper Drake is happily quacking away :D
[04:18] <intelikey> i updated 6.6 today and now it won't boot   /;
[04:19] <skippy> vwdial has hung the install on me everytime
[04:19] <Rhisc> I am trying to use blender right now and I cant pan the viewport, because when I hold alt and click, it moves the window... does anyone know how to turn that off?
[04:19] <skippy> im just glad its easy to kill it :)
[04:19] <AngryElf> so Ubuntu supports a ~/.asoundrc file, what service do i need to restart to reload any changes?
[04:19] <Blabla> Hi there
[04:19] <Masqy> eggzeck: thanks, what I tried was without counting on me typing exit...
[04:20] <intelikey> skippy you mean durring dl ?
[04:20] <Blabla> How can I write in a folder ? because, I want to put a folder in another, but i've not the permission
[04:20] <intelikey> Blabla sudo
[04:20] <intelikey> !sudo
[04:20] <ubotu> [sudo]  a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:20] <AngryElf> Blabla, man chown
[04:21] <intelikey> eeek
[04:21] <Drasla> hey, I'm trying to transfer a lot of data (200 GB) from an external hard drive to a local drive.  is there a way I could do this more reliably than with 'cp'?
[04:21] <intelikey> don't go owning the system dirs
[04:21] <Blabla> I know the "sudo"  command, but how I use it ?
[04:21] <intelikey> you'll break things
[04:21] <Blabla> if I want to put a folder in another folder
[04:21] <IcemanV9> Masqy: ?? does it work the way you want it? :)
[04:21] <skippy> intelikey, it happens whenever wvidal attempts to write to its config file, so now only when it updates
[04:21] <skippy> but it was during install up to flight 7 :S
[04:21] <Drasla> Blabla: "sudo mv FOLDER1 FOLDER2"
[04:22] <nickrud> Rhisc, you can change the mouse_button_modifier in gconf-editor, go to apps/medacity/general
[04:22] <Drasla> Blabla: sorry "sudo mv FOLDER1 FOLDER2 -r"
[04:22] <Masqy> IcemanV9: I think/hope so... thanks alot u all anyway...
[04:22] <intelikey> Blabla or   gksudo nautilus
[04:22] <skippy> Drasla recursive copy is the most reliable way i should think
[04:22] <Rhisc> nickrud, thanks :D
[04:22] <intelikey> for the pointy clicky thingy
[04:22] <nickrud> Rhisc, I have it set to <Super> (the start key on the left side of the keyboard)
[04:23] <Drasla> skippy: the problem is that the external isn't hugely reliable.  it has bombed out on me before after an hour of straight copying.
[04:23] <Drasla> I was wondering if there was a program that could ensure I could resume a transfer in case it got cut off
[04:23] <intelikey> but Blabla if you "know the 'sudo command"  then why are you asking "how to use sudo" ?
[04:24] <skippy> oh i see
[04:24] <Blabla> intlikey> I know what "sudo" does
[04:24] <intelikey> maybe you really should read the page.
[04:24] <intelikey> sudo
[04:24] <intelikey> !sudo
[04:24] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:24] <uboat> alternate paln of attack open terminal and su to root.
[04:25] <intelikey> uboat you have a root passwd ?
[04:25] <skippy> does "su" stand for switch user, or super user?
[04:25] <nickrud> su = evilness :)
[04:25] <Agrajag> skippy: yes
[04:25] <intelikey> switch user
[04:25] <skippy> yeah but which hehe?
[04:25] <skippy> ah kk
[04:25] <skippy> :)
[04:25] <uboat> skippy It stands for switch user.
[04:25] <intelikey> sudo is super user do    iirc
[04:26] <linux_newbie2> I should learn to type my forum posts into a text editor first.  All that typing and Ubuntuforums loses my session or something and fails to submit my post :P
[04:26] <skippy> some of the linux commands have dodgy names
[04:26] <IcemanV9> excerpt from man page > su - change user ID or become super-user
[04:26] <skippy> apropos is the worst, i used to always forget it when i started learning
[04:26] <skippy> when its the command you dont want to forget lol
[04:26] <nickrud> apropos never gives me what I want
[04:26] <skippy> i find it really good
[04:26] <intelikey> man man
[04:26] <nickrud> must be a unixy guy :)
[04:27] <deep1> i had it forgotten till now skippy :PP
[04:27] <Zambezi> Which is the best FTP with Implicit SSL for Ubuntu? Is it vsFTPD?
[04:27] <skippy> i dont think i could have learnt anything about linux without apropos, because when i started i didnt have a net connection
[04:27] <Varian> has anyone here installed a broadcom 43xx wlan in dapper? the documentation i have found seems to be mainly for hoary
[04:27] <mikedouglas> " propos" is french for about :)
[04:27] <linux_newbie2> goodnight all, thanks for the help
[04:27] <skippy> hehe mikedouglas, i learn somthing new everyday :D
[04:28] <jjibaja> hi
[04:28] <SurfnKid> xchat is better
[04:28] <Napoleon> Agrajag: skippy: http://pastebin.ca/59496
[04:28] <Zambezi> mikedouglas: And we all know what a "manage  trois" is. ;-) (Speaking about french)
[04:28] <nickrud> merriam, I lived on the howtos from tldp.org & htdig
[04:28] <intelikey> hehhe sudoers must be a symlink.... i don't have it.
[04:28] <nickrud> erm, I meant me :)
[04:28] <nickrud> intelikey, /etc/sudoers
[04:29] <Varian> i think i'm in over my head on this =) I've removed the wlan driver but dont know what I'm doing to put it back hehe
[04:29] <intelikey> nickrud no the command
[04:29] <IcemanV9> Varian: reinstall
[04:29] <Agrajag> Napoleon: you have 640 megs of ram free, it's not a memory usage issue
[04:29] <mikedouglas> intelikey: don't edit /etc/sudoers directly, use visudo
[04:29] <Agrajag> er, 690
[04:29] <nickrud> intelikey, that's not a command, it's a config file
[04:29] <AngryElf> can anyone help figure out why my on-board digital sound isn't working -- everyone says it's just suppose to work, but it's not :(  i've turned everything on and up in the mixer, no dice
[04:29] <skippy> yeah your ram is better than mine
[04:29] <Varian> Iceman: the OS?
[04:29] <intelikey> mikedouglas i don't even use sudo   but thanks for the thought.
[04:29] <thoreauputic> intelikey: AFAIK there's no "sudoers" command - do you mean "visudo" ?
[04:30] <skippy> napolean open up open office
[04:30] <skippy> see if the problem is confined to the gime
[04:30] <skippy> gimp
[04:30] <uboat> first of do an apt-get update then do an apt-get install Automatix.
[04:30] <intelikey> thoreauputic hmmmm it listed as a command when i apropos sudo'd
[04:30] <SurfnKid> ah much better, white on black background, its always good to view irc like that
[04:30] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[04:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[04:30] <nickrud> uboat, ew
[04:30] <_antix> automatix? no
[04:30] <deep1> *sudo does not always do the trick :P (so beware sudoers)
[04:30] <pkh> can someone recomment a graphical du-like package for gnome
[04:30] <IcemanV9> Varian: no. just the wlan driver
[04:30] <Agrajag> I wonder if X is slow for him or something?
[04:31] <nickrud> deep1, yes it does, it's all a matter of making sudoers right
[04:31] <uboat> no x is fine for me.
[04:31] <Flannel> pkh: what?
[04:31] <Napoleon> how do you change the hostname you set at the installation phase of ubuntu?
[04:32] <intelikey> deep1 which trick, might well be the question   :)
[04:32] <IcemanV9> SurfnKid: default is good :)
[04:32] <pkh> Flannel, I need to show someone how to navigate through their filetree looking for spase used (like du -sh *) but they're not a commandline type person (my brother...)
[04:32] <deep1> heh, not the rabbit-out-of-the-hat trick :P
[04:32] <uboat> I'm looking to build my own custom linux rig any suggestions on parts?
[04:32] <mikedouglas> intelikey: not sure about apropos, but files can also have man pages (ie. man mailcap).
[04:32] <SurfnKid> default what u mean the color
[04:32] <Agrajag> pkh: baobab maybe?
[04:32] <pkh> Agrajag, cheers will check it out
[04:32] <nickrud> Napoleon, boot into recovery mode, and set it in /etc/hostname & on the first line of /etc/hosts
[04:32] <IcemanV9> SurfnKid: yes. color background
[04:32] <deep1> dunno, as a starter i find lots of linux commands suspicius :P
[04:32] <IcemanV9> black on grey
[04:32] <Flannel> oh.  Um, you can use gnome... stuff. Like, properties of each disk, etc, in nautilus.
[04:33] <deep1> (:$)
[04:33] <skippy> Napoleon have a look in /etc/hosts
[04:33] <Masqy> regarding my prev. question, can someone give an insight of how to detach the process from it's terminal, *after* it has been run regualry (i.e. xmms & )
[04:33] <Agrajag> Flannel: that's way too slow
[04:33] <spikeb> pkh: click on the places menu, then select computer. from there, right click on the root volume, and select properties
[04:33] <SurfnKid> yeah this way its better for my eyes
[04:33] <nickrud> Masqy, disown <tab>
[04:33] <Masqy> or, how to emualte what the gnome's terminal is doing for the process when you type exit
[04:33] <Masqy> nickrud: thanks
[04:34] <mikedouglas> then tell use about your booting problem, I just saw the sudo question.
[04:34] <intelikey> lol
[04:34] <pkh> spikeb, that tells me how much is used on the disk (like df, he knows the disk is full) but he needs to go searching through the tree to find out where...
[04:34] <intelikey> i've got an unbootable system that i just booted.....  hehhe now how do i make it bootable ?
[04:34] <spikeb> pkh: hmm
[04:34] <intelikey> ok let me post my question,  the kernel and initramfs.img boot to an emergency 'busybox' shell  where i have to modprobe aic7xxx & ext2   then mknod /dev/sda1  and mount the system on /root then exit and it goes ahead and boots.  well at least far enough i can fix the rest in the init scripts...  anyway, how the heck to i automate that three step process in the initramfs ?
[04:34] <pkh> baobab is perfect, thanks agrajag
[04:34] <Agrajag> pkh: np
[04:35] <Agrajag> pkh: kdirstat is pretty cool too, but you need KDE crap installed to use it :(
[04:35] <intelikey> nickrud 10 4  that thought ^
[04:35] <Masqy> nickrud: when I do ps after the disown, it still appears as one of the jobs running in the background. can I make it 'completly' as if I was using gnome's run?
[04:35] <pkh> yeah, I had that installed on my last kde-based machine, but wanted something gnome-specific
[04:35] <nickrud> intelikey, I am gonna walk away from that, I gave up on the kernel after 2.4
[04:35] <SurfnKid> hey how can i change between the 4 desktops with my keyboard
[04:35] <intelikey> k
[04:35] <intelikey> well this is 2.6.15-23
[04:36] <jjibaja> with k ?
[04:36] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: have a look at the "synergy" program
[04:36] <deep1> alt+ctrl+left /right (gnome)
[04:36] <thoreauputic> !info synergy
[04:36] <nickrud> Masqy, just close the terminal, & the process will still run. That's pretty much equiv to what you want, I think
[04:36] <ubotu> synergy: (Share mouse and keyboard over the network), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 493 kB, Installed size: 1472 kB
[04:36] <uboat> dono i'm using regular ubuntu.
[04:36] <SurfnKid> oh thats sharing thru network
[04:36] <DJ_Danni> HELP
[04:36] <thoreauputic> hah - I thought SurfnKid meant separate machines :)
[04:36] <deep1> SurfnKid, its alt+ctrl+left/right :S
[04:36] <SurfnKid> oh awesome
[04:36] <deep1> if i understood right
[04:36] <DJ_Danni> Need to Setup a Webserver but how?
[04:36] <SurfnKid> yes deep1
[04:36] <SurfnKid> got it thanks
[04:36] <deep1> :>
[04:37] <deep1> np:)
[04:37] <Masqy> nickrud: that's the best option I got so far, thanks.
[04:37] <SurfnKid> i have another laptop i just logged into XP but ive been on ubuntu for 3 days nearly
[04:37] <SurfnKid> IT  FEELS WEEEIRD
[04:37] <SurfnKid> :D
[04:37] <DJ_Danni> Can you help me?
[04:37] <skippy> Masqy have you got your answer yet
[04:37] <deep1> lol yeah=D
[04:37] <intelikey> !tell DJ_Danni about lamp
[04:37] <deep1> its neat
[04:37] <skippy> i figured something out
[04:37] <deep1> synaptic rules!!!:D
[04:37] <DJ_Danni> What?
[04:37] <Harold_P> !dapper
[04:37] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[04:37] <SurfnKid> good thing i have 2 laptops so i can just do diff work
[04:37] <nickrud> Masqy, I use it often for gui stuff I start in a terminal, & want to get rid of the terminal. I'm not totally up on what that does, but It Works For Me
[04:37] <skippy> whats that?
[04:38] <shriphani> ok guys one question
[04:38] <Olde> anyone know the best place to get Totem Player codecs
[04:38] <nickrud> skippy, disown
[04:38] <shriphani> why does g++ say stdio.h no such file or folder
[04:38] <Gronk> heya folks
[04:38] <thoreauputic> !codecs
[04:38] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[04:38] <skippy> oh i have a another way
[04:38] <intelikey> shriphani !b-e
[04:38] <nickrud> shriphani sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:38] <Agrajag> shriphani: because stdio.h is a C header file, and g++ is a c++ compiler
[04:38] <Masqy> nickrud: that's what I wanted it to work for, although I was hoping to get a more "theoretical enlightment" of how this thing works. but as for the need, it is satisfied :)
[04:38] <Gronk> hey... anybody got aby suggestions for a good package to covert mp3 to wav?
[04:38] <benn> hey all, i need help
[04:39] <SurfnKid> i just have to say one thing guys, with this channel
[04:39] <thoreauputic> !tell Olde about restricted
[04:39] <Agrajag> shriphani: if you really must use C i/o in a C++ program, you need to include <cstdio>
[04:39] <benn> i just ran the breezy -> dapper upgrade with gksudo "update-manager -d", and when i restarted my X server won't load
[04:39] <skippy> masqy try "nohup gedit"
[04:39] <SurfnKid> its helping people so much get out or change their mind perspective about XP only OS's and since you are all very polite to help, that creates an even beetter encouragement to come and take a look
[04:39] <Olde> Thanks
[04:39] <skippy> then close the terminal
[04:39] <deep1> Agrajag,  shriphani  didnt clear out if she uses g++ to compile a cpp or c program
[04:40] <Gronk> SurfnKid: too true
[04:40] <deep1> she/he
[04:40] <Masqy> skippy: yes, nohup also does the job for me. thanks again.
[04:40] <Agrajag> shriphani: well there's that too, if it's a C program use gcc, not g++
[04:40] <DJ_Danni> Where can i found lamp?
[04:40] <benn> it says failed to load "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so"
[04:40] <thoreauputic> !lamp
[04:40] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:40] <intelikey> benn sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ?
[04:40] <benn> then failed to load moudle "GLcore" (loader failed, 7)
[04:40] <shriphani> but xemacs installation says my c compiler cant compile
[04:40] <deep1> cant we use gpp/g++ for c programs as well?
[04:40] <benn> failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[04:40] <shriphani> yes
[04:40] <thoreauputic> !b-e
[04:40] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[04:41] <Gronk> hey... anybody got aby suggestions for a good package to covert mp3 to wav?
[04:41] <thoreauputic> Gronk: sox
[04:41] <intelikey> benn ah  you may need to rebuild your driver.... ati ?
[04:41] <skippy> hello again gronk
[04:41] <skippy> :)
[04:41] <Agrajag> deep1: most should compile, but g++ won't know anything about a lot of C standard libraries
[04:41] <benn> nvidia
[04:41] <deep1> ah okie Agrajag :>
[04:41] <thoreauputic> Gronk: or audacity
[04:41] <nickrud> !nvidia
[04:41] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:41] <benn> i had just been using the default nvidia display driver package in breezy
[04:41] <Agrajag> shriphani: you'd be better off finding out why gcc doesn't work
[04:41] <DJ_Danni> Where can i Get lamp?
[04:42] <Gronk> skippy: g;day man - i ended up skipping work today , called in sick ;)
[04:42] <thoreauputic> DJ_Danni: you've been told at east twice
[04:42] <skippy> lol
[04:42] <skippy> :)
[04:42] <shriphani> i mean the last time i did install a few packages whose names i dont remember
[04:42] <DJ_Danni> Where?
[04:42] <skippy> blame it on the linux :D
[04:42] <Agrajag> !lamp
[04:42] <thoreauputic> !tell DJ_Danni about lamp
[04:42] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:42] <cilkay> Hello. I'm looking at setting up either OpenVZ or Linux VServer on Ubuntu. Any comments?
[04:42] <Agrajag> DJ_Danni: there
[04:42] <benn> crap
[04:42] <Gronk> thoreauputic: audacity?
[04:42] <shriphani> and then part. magic killed grub
[04:42] <nickrud> benn, and?
[04:42] <benn> i don't have an internet connection in console
[04:42] <Agrajag> shriphani: have you installed build-essential?
[04:42] <DJ_Danni> ok
[04:42] <thoreauputic> Gronk: audacity is a sound editing program
[04:42] <benn> i can't run apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:43] <Gronk> thoreauputic: cool
[04:43] <intelikey> benn hmmm you do have restricted in your repos ?   maybe apt-cache search nv    i think it's a module seperate from the xorg package.... xorg is modular in dapper
[04:43] <Gronk> i'll try it out
[04:43] <benn> hmm
[04:43] <shriphani> 43% Agrajag
[04:43] <Agrajag> 43%?
[04:43] <thoreauputic> Gronk: sox can also convert mp3 to wav on the command line
[04:43] <CokeNCode> goodnight everyone
[04:43] <shriphani> i am using apt-get
[04:43] <nickrud> benn, what release do you need it for?
[04:43] <benn> the dapper RC
[04:43] <Agrajag> shriphani: oh, then you'll have to wait till it's done to have a working C compiler
[04:43] <skippy> gronk look at nautilus-script-audio-convert in synaptic, might be good for you
[04:43] <shriphani> its 56% now
[04:43] <benn> i ran the auto-update from breezy
[04:43] <CokeNCode> what's the correct procedure for installing software with Ubuntu. I have opera installed, but it's not working, I want to uninstall and reinstall
[04:43] <shriphani> ok
[04:44] <Agrajag> anyway that should be all you need unless you're building some big project that uses external libs
[04:44] <Gronk> skippy: cheers
[04:44] <nickrud> benn, i386?
[04:44] <shriphani> aptitude remove opera
[04:44] <tapio_> I think I got the enviorment variables from the previous OS into my new ubuntu installation, anyway to restore the default variables?...or something :p
[04:44] <benn> yup
[04:44] <shriphani> aptitude install opera
[04:44] <intelikey> benn try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-nv
[04:45] <CokeNCode> aptitude ... not apt-get ?
[04:45] <benn> intelikey, already the newest version
[04:45] <nickrud> benn, if you have access somewhere, get http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Frestricted%2Fl%2Flinux-restricted-modules-2.6.15%2Fnvidia-glx_1.0.8756%2B2.6.15.10-2_i386.deb&md5sum=bf755b8ff856db89aa0e05ec463fad48&arch=i386&type=main
[04:45] <intelikey> what tinyurl would do for that......
[04:46] <shriphani> try aptitude
[04:46] <moses> hello help
[04:46] <nickrud> a one time thing, it includes all mirrors
[04:46] <shriphani> debian packages do give aptitude
[04:46] <moses> where is the command line?
[04:46] <CokeNCode> hmmm, opera just don't owrk
[04:46] <nickrud> for the next few hours, anyway
[04:46] <CokeNCode> how do i do an uninstall ?
[04:46] <shriphani> moses, accesories -------> terminal
[04:46] <benn> nickrud, i'll try copying it from my flash drive
[04:46] <moses> i cannot understand the instruction
[04:46] <intelikey> moshe you are using one of them....
[04:46] <moses> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[04:46] <nickrud> benn, exactly
[04:46] <moses> pls
[04:47] <skippy> moses hes talking about the menu bars
[04:47] <skippy> "Applications" > "accesories" at the top of your desktop
[04:47] <nickrud> benn, that's a place you'd point firefox to on another machine, and download from that page
[04:47] <shriphani> moses, top of yer desktop ya see accesories with the ubuntu logo beside it
[04:47] <skippy> in linux the command line is often called the terminal or a tty
[04:47] <shriphani> i mean applications
[04:48] <skippy> or the shell
[04:48] <skippy> :(
[04:48] <shriphani> so ya click on applications ------> accesories --------> terminal
[04:48] <DJ_Danni> Hey how can i Install Lamp i am new on Linux
[04:48] <Varian> ok for WEP on my wireless, I specified a passcode on my router it generates the key, i enter that as HEX, right? the key looks hex
[04:48] <nickrud> lol
[04:49] <intelikey> DJ_Danni did ya read the link ?
[04:49] <benn> hey, if i'm in console and i just put my flash drive in, how do i view the files again?
[04:49] <skippy> ok this is driving me mad, is there a way of automatically pasting a persons name in XIRC ie i hold shif and click on their screenname?
[04:49] <benn> never done that from console
[04:49] <DJ_Danni> Yeas but i am Confuset bechuse i have newer Install on Linux befor:S
[04:49] <intelikey> nickrud you fix my boot problem and i'll install gnome  :)
[04:49] <mikedouglas> DJ_Danni: Why are you trying to install a web server?
[04:49] <tapio_> "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" <- this occurs on my fresh install of ubunty when trying to install xmms. Whats wrong?
[04:49] <Agrajag> benn: is it mounted in /media somewhere yet?
[04:49] <nickrud> *hopps
[04:50] <Agrajag> benn: or did it fail to automount?
[04:50] <mikedouglas> tapio_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:50] <benn> it's not in /media
[04:50] <DJ_Danni> Its for my Radio
[04:50] <intelikey> DJ_Danni the "synaptic package manager"  listed in your menus  is the gui pointy clicky way.
[04:50] <stuuf> benn: do you have pmount?
[04:50] <benn> it automounted
[04:50] <benn> yes
[04:50] <tapio_> mikedouglas: Thanks
[04:50] <DJ_Danni> ok
[04:50] <benn> it shows up in lsusb
[04:50] <Agrajag> benn: ok, you have to mount it. Try "sudo mkdir /mnt/usbdrive && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbdrive"
[04:51] <Agrajag> This is assuming it's the first SCSI disk the system sees
[04:51] <Agrajag> you might need to use sdb1, or sdc1, etc.
[04:51] <stuuf> use pmount, you don't have to sudo or anything
[04:51] <Agrajag> oh right
[04:51] <Agrajag> you could first try pmount /dev/sda1
[04:51] <benn> got it
[04:51] <benn> cool
[04:51] <nickrud> hm, if gnome is working right, it should simply be available under /media
[04:52] <Agrajag> nickrud: already checked
[04:52] <benn> hey nick
[04:52] <benn> it says it conflicts with nvidia-settings
[04:52] <benn> should i remove that
[04:52] <nickrud> Agrajag, ok, I'm out of sync (again)
[04:53] <intelikey> DJ_Danni the cli "hard core linux" way  would be  apt-cache search blah  && apt-get install blah<as listed by the search>   being new to linux i sujest you do your self a favour and read    "man intro "    and maybe   "man man "     <--- typing either in a terminal will be self explanitory.
[04:53] <AngryElf> do i really want speaker-test though since i'm testing the optical stuff......the man page doesn't mention anything about optical/coaxial outputs
[04:53] <DJ_Danni> ok
[04:53] <benn> ok, got nvidia-glx to install
[04:53] <benn> gonna reboot
[04:53] <nickrud> benn, yes, nvidia-settings executable comes with nvidia-glx in dapper
[04:54] <benn> *crosses fingers*
[04:54] <nickrud> benn, simply log out, hit clt-alt-backspace, if all is good you'll see the white nvidia screen
[04:54] <intelikey> so anyone want to tackle my boot issue now ?
[04:54] <benn> i just did a full reboot
[04:54] <benn> what the hell
[04:54] <benn> booyeah!
[04:55] <benn> hello dapper
[04:55] <benn> thanks a lot guys, really appreciate the help
[04:55] <troy_s> whats your boot issue intel?
[04:56] <benn> does this come with xgl/compiz as the default window manager
[04:56] <intelikey> i suppose i could refuse to power down until the next release comes out in 6.10 .....
[04:56] <troy_s> nvidia glx has that annoying boot logo
[04:56] <troy_s> if you want, you can turn it off.
[04:56] <nickrud> heh
[04:56] <troy_s> intel, what is your issue?
[04:56] <intelikey> troy_s hey... give me a sec and i'll repost.
[04:56] <SurfnKid> hey my xmms doesnt wanna play asx files
[04:56] <intelikey> i don't have a usable initramfs.img skippy  and i've rebuilt it five times.
[04:56] <troy_s> hold... i'll scroll
[04:56] <troy_s> i have log.
[04:56] <SurfnKid> anyone know why
[04:56] <intelikey> ok let me post my question,  the kernel and initramfs.img boot to an emergency 'busybox' shell  where i have to modprobe aic7xxx & ext2   then mknod /dev/sda1  and mount the system on /root then exit and it goes ahead and boots.  well at least far enough i can fix the rest in the init scripts...  anyway, how the heck to i automate that three step process in the initramfs ?
[04:56] <intelikey> there   ^
[04:56] <troy_s> asx is ugly proprietary ms stuff
[04:56] <SurfnKid> troy word
[04:57] <Drasla> hey, does anyone know what package / repository I need to use to get MP3 playback for 6.06?
[04:57] <troy_s> surF:  you can play it assuming a few things:
[04:57] <SurfnKid> aha
[04:57] <troy_s> A) IF you are on a 64 bit box, wmv will not work last time i checked (only 32 bit libs out there and it is hokey to work around not worth it)
[04:57] <Agrajag> Drasla: gstreamer-plugins-bad I think
[04:57] <troy_s> B) figure out what codec is inside the asx
[04:57] <Agrajag> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[04:57] <Agrajag> that one
[04:57] <troy_s> and just vert it.
[04:58] <troy_s> intel
[04:58] <Healot> troy_s: some wmv will work, but mostly not
[04:58] <troy_s> is there a driver stopping your boot effectively?
[04:58] <SurfnKid> vert it?
[04:58] <SurfnKid> convert it ah
[04:58] <nickrud> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is correct for mp3s
[04:58] <SurfnKid> all this terminology rocks
[04:58] <troy_s> transcode, mencode, vlc -- start with one of those.  vlc has a handy graphical vert system
[04:58] <SurfnKid> im glad its NON MS tho
[04:58] <Agrajag> oh, I got that backwards
[04:58] <nickrud> SurfnKid, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:59] <Agrajag> I thought ugly were the broken ones
[04:59] <troy_s> surf:  spread the knowledge about the downside of proprietary closed source things...
[04:59] <troy_s> no
[04:59] <Varian> anyone using WEP64 and able to connect? I'm a bit unsure as to exactly what needs to be entered for the key
[04:59] <troy_s> ugly means bound up with closed source, an end user licence (eula) or other things...
[04:59] <SurfnKid> nickrud yea have yet to finish that page i should do that
[04:59] <nickrud> haven't figured out how the heck they chose those names, just checked the dependencies :)
[04:59] <troy_s> did you know that you cannot legally play a dvd on a linux box in north america?
[04:59] <troy_s> varian: wep should be fine
[04:59] <troy_s> varian:  you using dapper or breezy?
[05:00] <Varian> dapper
[05:00] <nickrud> SurfnKid, it's good thru flash, can't vouch for the rest
[05:00] <troy_s> varian:  assuming your card supports it, it should be fine then.
[05:00] <Drasla> I've tried searching for those.  the packages don't exist in any of the repositories I've enabled
[05:00] <troy_s> ugly
[05:00] <troy_s> not bad
[05:00] <troy_s> i believe in dapper
[05:00] <troy_s> they are called ugly
[05:00] <Varian> but do I use Hex or Ascii? I have they key (generated by a passcode from the router)
[05:00] <SurfnKid> eright
[05:00] <troy_s> intel:  you can specify kernel parameters in your grub menu.
[05:00] <Varian> it seems to misformat the key when I do an iwconfig
[05:00] <troy_s> intel:  once you track down what the exact issue is that is preventing boot, you can add them to the kernel line.
[05:01] <intelikey> troy_s mmmm the error message is something like can't mount root fs no such device   and  another error saying no /sbin/init on root fs
[05:01] <troy_s> varian:  ok... have you started with the network gui app in gnome?
[05:01] <Varian> yes
[05:01] <troy_s> intel:  your root partition is probably not specified correctly in your grub menu
[05:01] <Varian> essid is correct, using dhcp, its pretty vanilla
[05:01] <intelikey> troy_s lilo... and the lilo.conf is correct.
[05:01] <troy_s> varian: and you are certain it is wepped?
[05:02] <troy_s> not wpad?
[05:02] <Varian> positive
[05:02] <skippy> sorry i cant be much help here i dont understand the boot partition at all :(
[05:02] <troy_s> intel:  erm... did you change to lilo?
[05:02] <troy_s> varian:  ok, and you obviously double checked the key?
[05:02] <intelikey> no i installed it at the first...
[05:02] <intelikey> it is an option you know
[05:02] <troy_s> intel:  if i remember, every change you make to lilo
[05:02] <troy_s> intel:  requires lilo to be run after you make all of your changes to make sure the binary works.
[05:02] <Varian> re-entered a few times, but with wep64 the key is xx-xx-xx-xx-xx...in iwconfig its xxx-xxx-xxx
[05:02] <dizy> i followed instructions to install nvidia drivers... i think everything went ok... but if I go to device manager... the agp bridge showsn Unknown(ox0221)... device tab sais nVidia Corporation but Device: Unknown.. it also sais Bus type: PCI when its AGP ... does this mean that my card doesn't have the drivers installed ?
[05:03] <intelikey> yes you have to update it with   lilo
[05:03] <intelikey> lilo is not the issue.
[05:03] <troy_s> varian:  the wep should always amount to a hex value.  start with hex on the router AND as your key, then migrate to plaintext once you get connected.
[05:03] <intelikey> it is initramfs.img
[05:03] <troy_s> varian:  and you know it works.
[05:03] <benn> hey, so i got ubuntu to boot right, but now it's not liking my wireless connection, any ideas why?
[05:03] <troy_s> intel - did you run lilo though after you made the changes?
[05:03] <benn> it worked fine in breezy and i didn't change a thing
[05:03] <intelikey> but i don't know exactly what to do to it...
[05:04] <troy_s> benn:  is it encrypted?  is the wireless nic working?  are you in range?  does it see any routers?
[05:04] <intelikey> troy_s i should have used your nick sorry.
[05:04] <deameyes> anyone know how to install sdl image
[05:04] <Varian> the key is hex, 9fa1a2ba etc...I just cant get a connection
[05:04] <intelikey> all my posts were to you. troy_s   ^
[05:04] <benn> troy_s: it's encrypted, but i'm 100% sure i have the right key, i am 2 feet away from the router
[05:04] <troy_s> intel:  any reason you aren't using grub?  it is a little easier to manage.  lilo caused me headaches when i was running a custom linux... works, but the always running lilo after changes was a pain.
[05:04] <benn> i'll check to see if i can load the router page
[05:05] <Varian> i just dont know if it's user error or attributed to all the broadcom problems ive been reading about
[05:05] <troy_s> benn:  no, does your wireless card appear to be working in linux?  or does it not show up under network gui gnome app?
[05:05] <nickrud> deameyes, install libsdl-image1.2
[05:05] <intelikey> troy_s no particular reason other than i just don't like grub.  it seems weak.
[05:05] <troy_s> varian:  yes.  don't forget to send polite mail requesting that the vendor open their documentation up to the open source community to help _everyone_, not just linux
[05:05] <deameyes> yea I got the source for that, how do I install it?
[05:05] <SurfnKid> guys what other flavor you think ubuntu will be superseeded
[05:06] <nickrud> SurfnKid, eh?
[05:06] <troy_s> intel:  ok... start with running sudo lilo and see if that fixes it :)
[05:06] <benn> troy_s: the card shows up fine, there's an icon in my tray that says eth1 is connected and has 100% signal strength, but no programs will connect
[05:06] <SurfnKid> yeah well like debian came out, knoppix, ubuntu, fedora
[05:06] <dizy> can someone help me out... read up ^
[05:06] <intelikey> troy_s no that didn't fix it.
[05:06] <troy_s> benn:  sounds like encryption then.
[05:06] <SurfnKid> so im just thinking what else could come out
[05:06] <skippy> do you mean super seeded as in a torrent, or supersceded as in forgotten about?
[05:06] <nickrud> deameyes, sudo apt-get install libsdl-image1.2 no source needed
[05:06] <benn> troy_s: 100% sure i have the right network key
[05:07] <troy_s> intel:  well then it sounds like a lower kernel level thing, you will need to localize it.
[05:07] <deameyes> ok thanks
[05:07] <nickrud> deameyes, if you're compiling source that needs that, install libsdl-image1.2-dev
[05:07] <intelikey> troy_s localized to initramfs.img  how local do you want it ?
[05:07] <deameyes> nah, I just need to install it
[05:08] <troy_s> intel:  that is a binary output image though... if you can get it to boot, you need to figure out what the difference is.
[05:08] <troy_s> intel:  you can force that to be rebuilt.
[05:08] <jrsims> hey, how can I quit x and drop down to a terminal?
[05:08] <mikedouglas> Anyone know roughly how many files are included in the default ubuntu install?
[05:08] <skippy> dizy are you still there
[05:08] <tapio_> I cannot install applications the old fashion way in ubuntu?
[05:08] <nickrud> deameyes, nearly everything you'll need is apt-gettable; the best way to look for the right package is apt-cache search: I did apt-cache search sdl image to find the package for you
[05:08] <dizy> yea
[05:08] <troy_s> jrsims: do you want a plain terminal in x or a full command line resolution term?
[05:08] <jrsims> no x
[05:09] <skippy> your earlier question regarding the nvidia driver - none of the things youve listed suggest that you have a problem
[05:09] <benn> troy_s: i triple-checked the WEP key and it's right, the connection says it is active and has signal strength, still can't connect
[05:09] <troy_s> jrsims:  logout and change session
[05:09] <benn> it was working fine in breezy, i had run the update over wireless
[05:09] <nickrud> mikedouglas, somewhere around 90,000, iirc
[05:09] <intelikey> troy_s i have rebuilt it five times but always the same problem... that is where i kinda need some dirrections.  can i make a script and insert it into the initramfs ?
[05:09] <dizy> is there a way to check which video driver i have installed
[05:09] <jrsims> troy_s: I tried and didn't see an option for no x
[05:09] <skippy> dizy try opening a terminal and typing "nvidia-settings"
[05:09] <troy_s> jrsims:  oh you want x off?
[05:10] <nickrud> dizy, look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, look for Section "Device"
[05:10] <jrsims> troy_s: yeah
[05:10] <jrsims> troy_s: I need to leave x to install my nvidia drivers
[05:10] <dizy> nvidia-settings came up showing the right card.. so i guess im good
[05:10] <troy_s> jrsims:  boot to recovery mode.
[05:10] <mikedouglas> nickrud: thanks, I've got to clone each inode by typing "y" manually. This is going to take a while :-/
[05:10] <jrsims> k
[05:10] <troy_s> jrsims:  or you can shutdown x etc.
[05:10] <nickrud> mikedouglas, that was greek to me :)
[05:10] <intelikey> jrsims sudo killall gdm
[05:10] <troy_s> jrsims:  probably easiest to boot to recovery.
[05:10] <skippy> dizy ok as long as theres a bunch of stuff listed you are good to go
[05:11] <skippy> congratulations of your sucessful install dizy :)
[05:11] <nickrud> mikedouglas, ask about exactly what you're doing here, someone has to have a shortcut for it
[05:11] <skippy> on*
[05:11] <troy_s> intel:  let me do a little looking...
[05:11] <troy_s> intel:  what procedure works for you to boot?
[05:11] <intelikey> jrsims and run gdm to reverse tha
[05:11] <tapio_> Can one not install applicatios the old fashion way in ubuntu? is apt the only way? O_o
[05:11] <liquidboy> any cd burning software for linux (audio cd burning) that lets you choose how long the pause between each track is individually
[05:11] <SurfnKid> hey from the command prompt how can i check the right drivers for my video card?
[05:11] <troy_s> intel:  you modprobe a module and it boots?
[05:11] <SurfnKid> lshw?
[05:11] <jrsims> another problem - the nvidia driver install says it can't find "cc", what does this mean?
[05:11] <liquidboy> ?
[05:11] <dizy> thanks skippy ... youve been very helpfull :)
[05:11] <skippy> anytime mate :)
[05:11] <deameyes> do I need to cd to the directory to install sdl_image?
[05:11] <skippy> SurfnKid what sort of card do you have?
[05:12] <troy_s> liquid: if you want 2 only you can use serpentine
[05:12] <troy_s> liquid:  there are tons of others that let you adjust that to a variable level though.
[05:12] <nickrud> deameyes, no, just sudo apt-get install libsdl-image1.2
[05:12] <skippy> lspci will give you a basic look at all your pci hardware, but wont get much more than that
[05:12] <SurfnKid> ATI 128 M10
[05:12] <intelikey> troy_s  modprobe aic7xxx && modprobe ext2 && mknod /dev/sda1 b 8 1 && mount /dev/sda1 -t ext2 /root ;exit
[05:12] <SurfnKid> on a Dell 8600 Inspiron Laptop
[05:12] <skippy> ok i see
[05:12] <intelikey> troy_s i do that it boots.
[05:13] <troy_s> intel:  jeebus.  laf.  ok so your root isn't getting automounted?
[05:13] <intelikey> troy_s did you even read my post to begin with ?
[05:13] <intelikey> ok let me post my question,  the kernel and initramfs.img boot to an emergency 'busybox' shell  where i have to modprobe aic7xxx & ext2   then mknod /dev/sda1  and mount the system on /root then exit and it goes ahead and boots.  well at least far enough i can fix the rest in the init scripts...  anyway, how the heck to i automate that three step process in the initramfs ?
[05:13] <mikedouglas> nickrud: My ext3 partition is extremely fucked. I'm using fsck to repair the drive, but there doesn't seem to be a way to automate the default option. inode = file or directory.
[05:13] <benn> so, any ideas?
[05:13] <intelikey> troy_s that one  ^
[05:13] <SurfnKid> i assume its installed correctly, but the screen saver does chew up the card intensifying on graphics so im not sure if its the riht driver or what
[05:13] <hippie23> hello
[05:13] <skippy> SurfnKid type in a terminal "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver"
[05:14] <SurfnKid> ok
[05:14] <SurfnKid> whats cat do
[05:14] <GMullen> is there a walk through for getting the mouse to work?
[05:14] <skippy> cat outputs the contents of a file to the screen
[05:14] <skippy> | is the pipe command, it feeds one command into another
[05:14] <hippie23> I just  intalled OS9 and Ubuntu on my iMac, how do I configure yaboot to boot OS9?... its not in the boot options :/
[05:14] <skippy> and grep searches for a string, and then returns the entire line it belongs to
[05:15] <nickrud> mikedouglas, erg. the man page for fsck mentions the -a option, but says use with caution.
[05:15] <SurfnKid> um didnt do anything
[05:15] <skippy> hmm
[05:15] <SurfnKid> no such file or directory
[05:15] <skippy> did you copy and paste it?
[05:15] <benn> i'll restate my question, i have dapper RC up and running fine, but my wireless connection (which was working in breezy) no longer works. it recognizes the card and says it is connected, but no programs will send/receive data, any ideas?
[05:15] <SurfnKid> with the " no
[05:15] <nickrud> mikedouglas, balance importance of data, and your time
[05:15] <SurfnKid> just the words
[05:15] <skippy> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[05:15] <skippy> just that
[05:15] <SurfnKid> should i be in sudo su mode
[05:15] <mikedouglas> nickrud: Thanks, -a it is ;)
[05:15] <skippy> sudo shouldnt be needed
[05:16] <SurfnKid> ok
[05:16] <benn> anyone?
[05:16] <skippy> but it never hurts to add it
[05:16] <skippy> maybe you copied the quote signs as well? :)
[05:16] <nickrud> mikedouglas, I think I should hide behind another nick ;)
[05:16] <SurfnKid> i need to learn about case sensitive stuff
[05:16] <SurfnKid> worked now
[05:16] <skippy> good
[05:16] <SurfnKid> ati is there
[05:16] <mikedouglas> benn: what does dmesg say?
[05:16] <skippy> hmm
[05:16] <ElBrujo> hello i have a proble compiling a module
[05:17] <skippy> ok well that means that xorg is using the ati driver
[05:17] <intelikey> benn iptables -L   may hold a clue....  also #ubuntu+1  might have some help.
[05:17] <benn> a whole lot of stuff
[05:17] <SurfnKid> ok so i assume its allright
[05:17] <SurfnKid> its ok then
[05:17] <benn> this might be it
[05:17] <tapio_> Is apt the only way to install applications in ubuntu?
[05:17] <benn> "eth1: no IPv6 routers present"
[05:17] <mikedouglas> benn: it will be near the end
[05:17] <skippy> yeah it appears you have the best driver you can without searching around for another
[05:17] <mikedouglas> benn: that isn't it
[05:17] <SurfnKid> oh ok
[05:18] <skippy> to be fair, open gl probably will chew up a laptops card pretty hard
[05:18] <SurfnKid> I might ask you about lm-sensors sometime it seems i have to copy some data to a file and run it but im stuck doing that
[05:18] <SurfnKid> and Im doin somethin now
[05:18] <benn> that's the only thing in there for eth1, mikedouglas
[05:18] <skippy> lm-sensors? whats that
[05:18] <intelikey> hmmmmm " you have the best you can get, without looking for something better "         did any one else find that funny   ?
[05:18] <blaze> HI. im having a trouble with upgrade
[05:18] <SurfnKid> for the laptop internal cooling fans
[05:18] <blaze> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14812
[05:19] <skippy> oh i see
[05:19] <skippy> thats an acpi thing
[05:19] <hippie23> sensor to monitor fan speeds , cpu temp, etc.
[05:19] <SurfnKid> right
[05:19] <intelikey> troy_s i'm talking to you on it, hehhe it's booted.
[05:19] <nickrud> intelikey, it makes perfect sense, when apt-get is the best you can get without compiling (seems to be the cutoff for me)
[05:19] <skippy> type "lsmod" and you will see a full list of all your modules
[05:19] <troy_s> intel:  grr.  what was up?
[05:19] <SurfnKid> lets see
[05:19] <blaze> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ntp-server_1%3a4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu5_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[05:19] <ElBrujo> i have a problem compiling a module her you have it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14810
[05:19] <skippy> you should have stuff like "acpi" "thermal" and "temperature" loaded
[05:19] <intelikey> nickrud :)
[05:20] <ElBrujo> please help
[05:20] <hippie23> I just  intalled OS9 and Ubuntu on my iMac, how do I configure yaboot to boot OS9?... its not in the boot options :/
[05:20] <nickrud> blaze, there's some data on that, a sec
[05:20] <troy_s> elbrujo:  spanish ack!
[05:20] <intelikey> troy_s i'm not stuck.  just hate having to boot by hand.
[05:20] <skippy> ElBrujo, no point in compiling it
[05:20] <hippie23> I know its a stupid noob questiune
[05:21] <blaze> nickrud,  some data on what?
[05:21] <skippy> you allready have that driver on your system
[05:21] <ElBrujo> :-D
[05:21] <SurfnKid> pcc_acpi?
[05:21] <hippie23> but I NEVER use yaboot be4
[05:21] <intelikey> troy_s thanks for the time of day though.
[05:21] <nickrud> blaze, http://wiki.motin.eu/HowToFixTheBrokenNtpServerPackageInDapperBeta
[05:21] <ElBrujo> no point?
[05:21] <troy_s> elbrujo:  translate tructurenotieneunmiembrollamado`slot_name'
[05:21] <blaze> nickrud: Thanks a lot
[05:21] <skippy> well you have the following modules allready compiled with the kernel ElBrujo:
[05:21] <intelikey> troy_s or as my grampa used to say. 'thanks a million until you are better paid'
[05:22] <nickrud> blaze, it's a work in progress. I don't use ntp, so I'm just watching :)
[05:22] <ElBrujo> skippy i have zoran?
[05:22] <jrsims_> hey, I just did Alt+F1 and got to what appears to be a full screen terminal. X is still running, though. How do I get back?
[05:22] <skippy> zr36016, zr36050, zr36060, zr36067
[05:22] <skippy> what is the exact name of your card
[05:22] <nickrud> jrsims, alt-ctl-f7 most likely
[05:23] <intelikey> jrsims_ that's called a "console"
[05:23] <SurfnKid> thermal is on pcc_acpi too but not temperature or i cant find it
[05:23] <skippy> you can load any of those modules with "modprobe zr36016" for example
[05:23] <SurfnKid> so then i should be able to monitor fan speed too?
[05:23] <GMullen> is there any reason why the mouse wont work?
[05:23] <Drasl1> sorry to keep bugging everyone, but the mp3 codecs listed just don't seem in the repository
[05:23] <skippy> let me check surf
[05:23] <troy_s> drasl:  wiki restricted
[05:23] <ElBrujo> troy_s structure haven't a member called slot_name
[05:23] <troy_s> drasl:  mp3 is patent restricted
[05:23] <SurfnKid> cheers mate
[05:23] <tapio_> I'll ask one more time, is apt the only way to install stuff in ubuntu?
[05:23] <skippy> you should have one called "fan" SurfnKid
[05:23] <troy_s> el:  sounds like you have a library issue
[05:23] <shriphani> no tapio_
[05:24] <skippy> looks like i made "temperature" up lol
[05:24] <troy_s> el:  meaning that the version that has slot_name isn't in the version you have.  try updating your libs.
[05:24] <tapio_> shriphani: The ./configure make make install does work?
[05:24] <skippy> as long as you have the acpi one, you appear to be all set
[05:24] <shriphani> there's synaptic, aptitude, wget as well
[05:24] <ElBrujo> skippy my card is pinnacle studio dc10 av/dv
[05:24] <shriphani> and yes you can compile from source
[05:24] <troy_s> tapio:  compile from scratch or use a package manager.
[05:24] <Drasl1> I
[05:24] <nickrud> Drasl1, the mp3 stuff is in universe & multiverse
[05:24] <intelikey> tapio_ actually there are two ways.  you can compile source   or use 'dpkg'  apt aptitude and synaptic are all frontends for dpkg.
[05:25] <Drasl1> I've checked the wiki.  the files it references aren't appearing.  and I've tried both synaptic and apt-get
[05:25] <fourat> i've started an apt-get install and cancelled it with 'ctrl-c', and since this, apt-get want to install my old-desired packages every time i want to install a new package, how to tell apt-get that i've cancelled that ?
[05:25] <shriphani> and yes to play mp3 please download gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:25] <Csecs> hello
[05:25] <tapio_> Thanks alot guys, then there is something wrong on my side, just had to make sure :>
[05:25] <troy_s> dras:  wiki.ubuntu.com search for restricted formats
[05:25] <nickrud> Drasl1, can I suggest reading !components and !repos, to follow
[05:25] <nickrud> !components
[05:25] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[05:25] <nickrud> !repos
[05:25] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:25] <quicoju_> got issues setting locales any suggetion? http://pastebin.com/744092
[05:25] <intelikey> fourat tell apt-get to remove the offending packages
[05:25] <Drasl1> !repos
[05:25] <holycow> now that xchat has hierarchial views, it seems there is no real point to xchat-gnome
[05:26] <ElBrujo> skippy ??
[05:26] <intelikey> troy_s k
[05:26] <skippy> ok ElBrujo, go to "places" and "file search" in gnome
[05:26] <skippy> search your ENTIRE file system for files beginging with zr360
[05:26] <SurfnKid> sorry i went to check something
[05:26] <Drasl1> I have already enabled the multiverse.  I have done everything the wiki has suggested.  can someone please check to make sure it's not just me?
[05:26] <fourat> ok
[05:26] <nickrud> quicoju_, LANG should also be en_US.UTF-8
[05:26] <SurfnKid> yes fan its there
[05:27] <shriphani> Drasl1, your problem ?
[05:27] <ElBrujo> skippy here i have it
[05:27] <ElBrujo> yea!
[05:27] <SurfnKid> haha was like temp? noooup :P
[05:27] <skippy> cool, well looks like your all set SurfnKid
[05:27] <nickrud> Drasl1, could you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:27] <Drasl1> just that the mp3 codecs referenced in the restricted formats wiki aren't in the repository (under universe or multiverse)
[05:27] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[05:27] <idanimrod> helllo, what partitions does the installation creates when you choose "auto partition" in the installer? ( i mean other than / and swap) does it create a partition for /home?
[05:27] <skippy> ok ElBrujo, you can use "modprobe" followed by the name of the driver
[05:27] <Drasl1> yeah
[05:27] <holycow> does anyone know what is up with all the openoffice.org updates over the last week and a half?  what exactly is being fixed because every update has had an oo.org upgrade
[05:27] <skippy> dont add the .ko to the end though
[05:27] <quicoju_> nickrud: where do i set that variable?
[05:27] <SurfnKid> yeah sounds like it but u think there's somethin i could monitor and change the speeds?
[05:28] <fourat> i got soundcard working with alsaconf, now after an apt-get upgrade, sound card wont work, alsa got problems staring, it says : ALSA lib control.c:816:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL hw:0
[05:28] <fourat> alsactl: set_controls:1088: snd_ctl_open error: No such file or directory
[05:28] <SurfnKid> i mean they are on now
[05:28] <shriphani> Drasl1, to play mp3 on ubuntu apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:28] <skippy> nah its all automatic i think
[05:28] <SurfnKid> ah
[05:28] <skippy> as the temperature rises the Bios will increase the fan speed
[05:28] <SurfnKid> right
[05:28] <ElBrujo> i have many drivers
[05:29] <SurfnKid> on XP i used the i8Kfangui
[05:29] <nickrud> quicoju_, it needs to be in /etc/locale.gen
[05:29] <Drasl1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14813
[05:29] <skippy> there should be 4 drivers ElBrujo, but if you have multiple kernels installed a lot of extra ones will show up
[05:29] <nickrud> quicoju_, dapper?
[05:29] <skippy> but htere are only 4 basic types
[05:29] <skippy> pick the one you think is closes and type "modprobe drivername" where drivername is the first part of the drivers name
[05:30] <skippy> that should work
[05:30] <quicoju_> nickrud: just upgraded
[05:30] <fourat> anyone ?
[05:30] <Drasl1> has anyone else recently checked if the codec is actually still in the repository?
[05:30] <SurfnKid> i had to modify the fan and cpu heat sinks by adding a copper plate to the middle so now heat transfers better and im not scared of a fried GPU
[05:30] <nickrud> quicoju_, I miss the old locale dpkg-reconfigure as well
[05:30] <skippy> hmm surf maybe you can get something in synaptic which lets your tweak them
[05:31] <ElBrujo> ok skippy i modprobe the module
[05:31] <intelikey> fourat what does cat /proc/asound/cards tell you ?
[05:31] <SurfnKid> and could you believe Home Depot didnt sell a small 1/16th flat copper plate?  i had to buy a round plate, cut it and hammer it till i flattened it
[05:31] <skippy> lol
[05:31] <ElBrujo> in lsmod i have:
[05:31] <ElBrujo> zr36060                 9356  0
[05:31] <skippy> ok good
[05:31] <SurfnKid> yeah ill have to check SPM
[05:31] <skippy> now test the hardware out ElBrujo
[05:32] <ElBrujo> zr36060                 9356  0
[05:32] <ElBrujo> videocodec              7572  1 zr36060
[05:32] <ElBrujo> videodev                9344  0
[05:32] <skippy> god knows how lol, ive never had a card like that
[05:32] <nickrud> Drasl1, you have mixed dapper & breezy sources there: I'd suggest replacing all of that with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 then doing a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , then trying your codecs install again
[05:32] <ElBrujo> all
[05:32] <hippie23> hate to ask the same quetiune again, but how do I set up yaboot(ppc bootloader) to have my OS9 install as a boot option, the only ones I have are linux and CD rom, I didnt reformat the OS9 partition, just installed ubuntu in the free space o my hard drive, I need access to OS9 for firmware updates and stuff like that
[05:32] <fourat> intelikey, cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:32] <fourat> 0 [SB             ] : HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
[05:32] <fourat>                      HDA ATI SB at 0xc0000000 irq 11
[05:32] <skippy> lol SurfnKid get on synaptic and search for "fan speed"
[05:32] <skippy> theres tons of programs to adjust them
[05:32] <SurfnKid> there's gotta be something ! :)
[05:32] <skippy> loads of progs
[05:33] <skippy> "lm-sensors"
[05:33] <intelikey> fourat ok dirver is installed.   try sudo alsamixer    and see what happens.
[05:33] <SurfnKid> right
[05:33] <dizy> hey skippy.. one more thing.. im trying to get my wacom table to work... it works like a regular mouse now... im following the ubuntu wiki on the subject but im not getting the same results.... after I apt-get the wacom tools and backup the xorg.conf ... it sais to edit the xorg.conf and replace all /dev/wacom orrurences into /dev/input/wacom ... but theres no mention of wacom in the file
[05:33] <shriphani> hippie23, i think you press the alt key at boot time for switching between oprating systems
[05:33] <troy_s> dizy: is it usb?
[05:34] <skippy> hmm
[05:34] <dizy> yes
[05:34] <troy_s> dizy:  you will need to track down what input number it is
[05:34] <skippy> dizy my file has tons of the silly wacom references in it
[05:34] <fourat> alsamixer
[05:34] <fourat> ALSA lib control.c:816:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default
[05:34] <fourat> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[05:34] <skippy> i can post it for you if you want
[05:34] <skippy> and you can copy and paste the stuff out
[05:34] <troy_s> dizy: and change them in your xorg or do a link.
[05:34] <nickrud> quicoju_, um, I was looking in my breezy chroot, didn't realize that. a few minutes
[05:35] <shriphani> guys how do i create a mount point for an external floppy drive /
[05:35] <intelikey> fourat ok looks like the device node may be the problem.   do  ls /dev/snd
[05:35] <dizy> but theres no mention of wacom in the file... what do i link ?
[05:35] <intelikey> !tell fourat about flood
[05:35] <hippie23> brb.. gonna try that... but doubt it will work, it lists my boot options and appropreate keys for them, but mac OS isnt one of them, just linux and cd rom
[05:35] <corey> im downloading dapper drake server install iso now
[05:35] <troy_s> dizy:
[05:35] <corey> something went wrong when i upgraded
[05:35] <troy_s> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151&highlight=wacom+howto
[05:35] <intelikey> fourat please don't flood the channel
[05:35] <shriphani> intelikey, how do i create a mount point for my external floppy ?
[05:35] <intelikey> shriphani mkdir.
[05:35] <troy_s> that will show you a relativly easy way to figure out what input it is on
[05:36] <troy_s> usually input2 or input3
[05:36] <intelikey> shriphani a dir is a mount point
[05:36] <shriphani> mkdir /mount/floppy ?
[05:36] <freeindex> Hello everyone.  For some reason when I try to open programs that require admin access, they don't start at all.
[05:36] <intelikey> sure   sudo that
[05:36] <hippie23> if it was grub it would be fixed by now
[05:36] <shriphani> ok
[05:36] <freeindex> Does anyone know what I need to do?  I'm using version 5.04
[05:37] <skippy> dizy http://pastebin.com/744108
[05:37] <shriphani> freeindex which programs ?
[05:37] <intelikey> shriphani you can't mkdir in depth without switches.  it would be     sudo mkdir /mount && sudo mkdir /mount/floppy
[05:37] <Drasl1> nickrud: thanks a bunch.  looks like the problem was that I forgot the apt-get update.  thank you.
[05:37] <shriphani> ok intelikey
[05:37] <shriphani> freeindex, which programs ???
[05:37] <freeindex> shriphani: The package manager, for one.
[05:37] <shriphani> ok
[05:37] <skippy> thats my file, it mght be a handy reference, but whatever you do, dont just copy the whole lot in dizy
[05:37] <shriphani> can you do a thing for me freeindex
[05:38] <dizy> well its event1 for me
[05:38] <troy_s> Option    "Device"    "/dev/wacom"     # Change to                             # /dev/input/event
[05:38] <troy_s> did you do that test?
[05:38] <troy_s> i doubt it is event1
[05:38] <troy_s> do the cat test and try event3 -- it should ONLY spew on tablet information
[05:38] <freeindex> troy_s: Sorry, I can't read what you just wrote.
[05:38] <troy_s> once you have your event, change the device lines in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file or do a symbollic link to the event from /dev/wacom
[05:39] <troy_s> with me dizy?
[05:39] <shriphani> paste the contents of /etc/sources pste it to www.pastebin.com
[05:39] <nickrud> Drasl1, yeah, those breezy sources probably wouldn't give you any issues, but I like the clarity of the sources on the paste site :)
[05:39] <dizy> here.. but not sure if im with you
[05:39] <rseward> hello
[05:39] <skippy> lol
[05:40] <rseward> Is any one a debootstrap expert?
[05:40] <dizy> the xorg.conf  has no mention of wacom
[05:40] <skippy> making a chroot?
[05:40] <nickrud> I have the regular ubuntu sources in all their obscurity, just so I'm reminded of how bad they can be
[05:40] <rseward> Trying to install dapper on a laptop with a flaky CDROM.
[05:41] <intelikey> hehhe nickrud
[05:41] <rseward> I get Dapper Flight7 to install to the point where I can get a shell
[05:41] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[05:41] <skippy> what about running a live CD?
[05:41] <intelikey> and one for updates and one for patches
[05:41] <rseward> and run /usr/sbin/debootstrap dapper --arch i386 /target http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[05:42] <nickrud> intelikey, the best way to get sources? run thru synaptics options. I did that when I installed warty because I couldn't figure them out any other way
[05:42] <freeindex> Well, can anyone tell me the command for installing emacs?  I've only used RPM systems before.
[05:42] <rseward> Live CD does not go very far.
[05:42] <troy_s> freeindex:  sudo apt-get install emacs
[05:42] <rseward> The debootstrap works well, until it tries to download libc6
[05:42] <peny> #ubuntu-cn
[05:42] <troy_s> freeindex:  iirc
[05:42] <intelikey> nickrud that's the full repos minus src packages...
[05:43] <rseward> for some reason debootstrap is trying to download libc-i686
[05:43] <nickrud> intelikey, yeah, you have some very fine, readable sources. I know them :)
[05:43] <freeindex> troy_s: Thanks.
[05:43] <nickrud> quicoju_, you still about
[05:43] <tuxtheslacker> hey.
[05:43] <tuxtheslacker> what are some programs that will test to see if you webcam got registered?
[05:44] <Drasla> is there any keyboard shortcut I can use to force-quit a program running in a terminal?
[05:44] <nickrud> Drasla, ctl-c
[05:44] <PORDO> how do i stop nautilus from auto-opening newly mounted drives, like my usb keychain drive?
[05:44] <PORDO> that's really annoying.
[05:44] <intelikey> well i'm going to build a script and stick it in the initramfs.img   'if i can...'  hehhe be back when.
[05:44] <nickrud> Drasla, works 90% of the time
[05:44] <intelikey> Drasla killall app
[05:44] <GMullen> ok i'm trying to use synapitc to upgrade
[05:44] <GMullen> but i typoed the password
[05:44] <freeindex> troy_s: Error, and I think it's because I'm not connected to the internet.  The thing is I found the emacs package on the CD but I haven't found out how to install it.
[05:44] <GMullen> and now it's locked
[05:45] <GMullen> with the worng password
[05:45] <freeindex> troy_s: Double clicking on it brings up the archive manager.
[05:45] <quicoju_> why dpkg-reconfigure apt does not work on dapper?
[05:45] <Drasla> ah, that worked well.
[05:45] <Drasla> thanks
[05:45] <quicoju_> nickrud: done thanx =)
[05:45] <bintrue> So I
[05:45] <nickrud> quicoju_, no idea, but I do have a potential fix for your local, and nm :)
[05:46] <bintrue> I'm currently Dual booting Vista and Ubuntu, but I want to change Vista to XP without reinstalling Ubuntu. How do I get back to a grub loader after installing Windows?
[05:46] <Drasla> one last question I'll try asking again: does anyone know a program that syncs two folders where I can resume a transfer if it fails partway?  (i have a rather unstable external hard drive I'm trying to unload)
[05:47] <maswan> Drasla: rsync if you only want to sync one-way (at a time)
[05:47] <troy_s> drasla:  rsync?
[05:48] <intelikey> Drasla bacula maybe.   you could script diff and cp to do that
[05:48] <intelikey> backula ?
[05:48] <troy_s> freeindex:  use synaptic and point the installation to the cd
[05:48] <Drasla> looking into rsync.  this sounds pretty good.  thanks.
[05:48] <skippy> you could try backuppc, it probably has a lot more functionality than you need
[05:48] <nickrud> bintrue, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:48] <troy_s> rsync is pretty versatile.
[05:49] <troy_s> freeindex:  did you try using synaptic with the cd install?
[05:49] <bintrue> holy poo everything isin that wiki. Thanks nickrud
[05:49] <nickrud> bintrue, a lot, some better, some worse. I've heard good things about that one :)
[05:50] <freeindex> troy_s: Yeah, I just went over and tried it.
[05:50] <troy_s> bintrue -- between the search on the forums and that wiki, you are probably good to go.
[05:50] <bintrue> thanks so much, google was being too vague for me
[05:50] <troy_s> freeindex:  i think you just select the cd from the combo box and it apt-gets from there.
[05:50] <freeindex> troy_s: It seems sudo is giving me an error.  It says that it can't find plato by gethostname().
[05:51] <troy_s> freeindex:  yes... the command line will try to access the repositories... try synaptic
[05:51] <nickrud> freeindex, you have a serious problem there
[05:51] <freeindex> troy_s: I typed "sudo synaptic" because synaptic said it needed root access.
[05:51] <Tylerofl> hey, can someone please tell me how to execute a command during the initial load screen?
[05:51] <freeindex> nickrud: Thing is this is a clean install :(
[05:52] <troy_s> freeindex:  have you tried synaptic from the pulldown?  i think it needs the gnome sudo
[05:52] <intelikey> dpkg dood
[05:52] <troy_s> freeindex:  or dpkg it.  :)
[05:52] <ElBrujo> how i know if i have v4l?
[05:52] <Tylerofl> to get the internet running, every time i have to open a console and type dhclient ra0
[05:52] <nickrud> freeindex, you have a bad /etc/hosts, sudo expects to see plato on the first line there.
[05:52] <Tylerofl> is there any way to do this during startup automatically?
[05:53] <intelikey> Tylerofl init scripts
[05:53] <freeindex> troy_s: Synaptic from the pull down does nothing.
[05:53] <Tylerofl> intelikey how do i use init scripts
[05:53] <troy_s> freeindex:  eek!  is it asking for a password?
[05:53] <paulb> how do i get bind9 configured for domains, what is the config file syntax, i am new at this
[05:53] <freeindex> nickrud: I read a lot of philosophy :)
[05:53] <freeindex> nickrud: So you think I could just edit that file?
[05:53] <intelikey> Tylerofl /etc/init.d/bootmisc*
[05:54] <nickrud> freeindex, type cat /etc/hosts , is plato on the first line?
[05:54] <bruno__> Hi folks!
[05:54] <bruno__> :-)
[05:54] <intelikey> Tylerofl you don't use init scripts the system does....  put your command in bootmisc just before the exit 0 at the bottom.
[05:55] <freeindex> nickrud: No.  All it says is: 127.0.0.1   localhost
[05:55] <dario_> hello
[05:55] <intelikey> Tylerofl just like you would enter it on the command line.  except for any sudo.   the scripts are ran by init.   init is higher than root.
[05:55] <freeindex> troy_s: Sorry.  No, it's not asking for a password.
[05:56] <jrsims> ok, I guess I need to have the same kernel source on my hd for my nvidia install to work. How do I get the source tree?
[05:56] <MorbidHunger> /home/kenny/.setup22317: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:56] <MorbidHunger> how do i fix that
[05:56] <nickrud> erg, another dapper difference. freeindex is there a line that says, 127.0.1.1       teserias where plato replaces teserias?
[05:56] <dario_> someone speak spanish???
[05:56] <rseward> Anyone out there a debootstrap expert???
[05:56] <Gnuget> dario_,  yup
[05:56] <bruno__> algum filha da puta que fale portugus aqui nessa bagaa?
[05:56] <nickrud> !es
[05:57] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
 come estas?
[05:57] <Tylerofl> file:///etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[05:57] <Tylerofl> that one?
[05:57] <Dawei> !ntp
[05:57] <ubotu> well, ntp is Network Time Protocol. Install 'ntpdate' for a simple ntp client.
[05:57] <Healot> no speak portugese
[05:57] <Tylerofl> intelikey
[05:57] <MorbidHunger> hallo
[05:57] <Gnuget> dario_,  si quieres hablar espaol checa   #ubuntu-mx, #ubuntu-es
[05:57] <Healot> !pt
[05:57] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[05:57] <intelikey> Tylerofl yes.
[05:57] <dario_> gracias ubotu pero solo entraba a ver un poco... no a pedir ayuda..
[05:57] <MorbidHunger> is there one for german?
[05:57] <freeindex> Ubuntu is an international OS :)
[05:57] <dario_> Bien y tu Morbid?
[05:57] <Healot> !de
[05:57] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[05:58] <MorbidHunger> que?
[05:58] <MorbidHunger> nvm
[05:58] <MorbidHunger> bien
[05:58] <MorbidHunger> i dont speak much spanish
[05:58] <dario_> ahhh, okey...
[05:58] <nickrud> freeindex, you'll need a line in /etc/hosts that reads 127.0.0.1 plato    , and have a file /etc/hostname that contains the word plato
[05:58] <Tylerofl> intelikey it says it is unable to write to file
[05:58] <MorbidHunger> im german
[05:59] <tuxtheslacker> hey, is there a copy of cpia-control available on apt-get that will install?
[05:59] <dario_> good bye..
[05:59] <MorbidHunger> tuxtheslacker> no
[05:59] <freeindex> nickrud: Okay, I'll give it a try.
[05:59] <tuxtheslacker> MorbidHunger, is there a replacement or alternative drive that would give support?
[05:59] <freeindex> nickrud: Do I add it to the line that already exists or replace that line?
[05:59] <nickrud> freeindex, you may need to boot into recovery mode to create/edit those two files
[05:59] <tuxtheslacker> to cpia webcams?
[05:59] <intelikey> Tylerofl gksudo gedit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[05:59] <tuxtheslacker> **
[05:59] <MorbidHunger> accualy i donnt what your takling about
[05:59] <tuxtheslacker> MorbidHunger, ^^
[05:59] <jrsims> ok, I guess I need to have the same kernel source on my hd for my nvidia install to work. How do I get the source tree?
[05:59] <MorbidHunger> i knew if i said yes, ud ask for the command
[06:00] <jdrake> When as my regular user account trying to remove this dir: drwxr-xr-x  2 jdrake users  4096 2006-05-28 23:54 download    It says permission denied. I am not sure why though. It is in the root directory of an automatically mounted volume (mounted in gnome).
[06:00] <freeindex> nickrud: I guess that means I need to learn how to use vim :)
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> MorbidHunger, I know the command, not the package :-)
[06:00] <nickrud> freeindex, there will be two lines with 127.0.01: one will say localhost, the other will say plato
[06:00] <MorbidHunger> well yeah
[06:00] <MorbidHunger> tahts what i meant
[06:00] <nickrud> freeindex, use nano, it's easier.
[06:00] <Healot> i use micro :)
[06:01] <freeindex> nickrud: Okay, I'll see if it's installed.  No weird keybindings, are there?
[06:01] <intelikey> boot into recovery mode ?????  that's like so windowish.   yuch.
[06:01] <Tylerofl> intelikey thank you :)
[06:01] <bit_doidao> Hello All! Please, what happens if i install edubuntu-desktop? i'll get a session like edubuntu in my gdm?
[06:01] <intelikey> this is not M$ reboot.
[06:01] <nickrud> freeindex, no, no wierd keybindings, in fact the keybindings will be shown on screen
[06:01] <intelikey> Tylerofl np
[06:01] <rseward> Is dapper half-baked?
[06:01] <Tylerofl> i will try now
[06:01] <troy_s> bit: i think it will flip your gdm
[06:02] <intelikey> anyone good with key binding ?
[06:03] <MorbidHunger> woooo hoooo unreal tournament!
[06:03] <Healot> intelikey: he might mean "single user" boot
[06:03] <intelikey> rseward at least half baked.
[06:03] <GMullen> how do i add user greg to the sudoers group??
[06:03] <rseward> breezy debootstrap seems to be more reliable...
[06:03] <zcat[1] > dapper is 99% baked..
[06:04] <rseward> dapper debootstrap can find libc6.
[06:04] <troy_s> gmullen:  man usermod
[06:04] <rseward> dapper debootstrap can not find libc6
[06:04] <GMullen> thx troy
[06:04] <intelikey> Healot still why reboot...  just init 1
[06:04] <troy_s> gmullen:  i think it is admin not wheel too.
[06:04] <nickrud> intelikey, metacity keybindings, yes
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> GMullen: The group name is admin
[06:04] <flaek> can someone help me get my wireless workign with wlan0?
[06:04] <nickrud> lol
[06:04] <troy_s> gmullen:  also check the sudoers file
[06:05] <fourat> i have scratchy sounds with xmms and amarok, how to fix this ?
[06:05] <MorbidHunger> i love monster energy drink
[06:05] <intelikey> GMullen you sudo usermod -G adm greg    but man usermod  first and make sure that's right.
[06:05] <troy_s> gmullen:  nevermind, in sudoers it lets all admins invoke sudo
[06:05] <cilkay> Buy an mp3 player? :)
[06:05] <Healot> fourat: buy a very good speaker, heh
[06:05] <tuxtheslacker> what are some programs to see if the webcam was recognized?
[06:05] <intelikey> nickrud console
[06:05] <troy_s> intel:  that's it i think.
[06:06] <paulb> how do i config bind?
[06:06] <Healot> !bind
[06:06] <ubotu> Healot: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:06] <fourat> Healot, serious, it was good before apt-upgrade
[06:06] <intelikey> nickrud i'd like to get the windows keys functioning in console
[06:06] <nickrud> intelikey, back in the day I used an app (will will come back to mind, gimme a bit) for keybindings
[06:07] <troy_s> tux:  you tried ekiga?
[06:07] <tuxtheslacker>  cpia-control depends on python (<< 2.4); however:
[06:07] <tuxtheslacker> what does that mean?
[06:07] <intelikey> k
[06:07] <tuxtheslacker> I need older than 2.4??
[06:07] <nickrud> I was building X then and never got it right, so I lived on the console
[06:08] <troy_s> intelikey:  you tried the gnome keybinder?
[06:08] <intelikey> i live in the console and x works flawlessly 'afaict'
[06:09] <intelikey> troy_s i don't have gnome... kde  and it's not in X it's in console
[06:09] <nickrud> intelikey, back then if I couldn't compile it, I didn't run it. I'm wiser now
[06:09] <SurfnKid> Pink So RuleZ stupid girl
[06:10] <intelikey> :)
[06:10] <SurfnKid> Skippy I found a good program GKrellM for the fan
[06:10] <intelikey> dis quatro
[06:10] <tuxtheslacker> what is a good webcam program?
[06:10] <IcemanV9> xload is better than gkrellm :P
[06:12] <intelikey> nickrud did you do like i did, after a successful compile save the build dir for the next reload    ?  :)
[06:12] <GMullen> intelikey if i'm not in the sudoers group i cant sudo that
[06:12] <flaek> anyone willing to help me with wireless?????????
[06:12] <nickrud> intelikey, no, I erased it all, built lfs up again, and learned mre
[06:13] <nickrud> intelikey, it's been too long, I don't remember the console deamon I used for keybindings
[06:13] <intelikey> GMullen that is one of those places where a reboot to single user mode or init=/bin/bash is the only fix.
[06:14] <jaime> HOLA
[06:14] <intelikey> flaek best i can do is point you to the wiki
[06:14] <intelikey> !wifi
[06:14] <ubotu> wifi is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:14] <intelikey> flaek ^
[06:14] <jaime> HEY
[06:14] <freeindex> troy_s, nickrud: Thanks you guys.  Adding that line to the hosts file seems to have done the trick.  As far as I can tell, it's installing emacs as we speak.  I appreciate the help.
[06:15] <GMullen> na i can su with the root pass ad got it working
[06:15] <flaek> intelikey: yea i have tried that, ill keep on searching though... thanks
[06:15] <jaime> DOES ANY ONE HAS THE AMSN TLS TCL LIBARY
[06:15] <nickrud> ew, if I knew it was for emacs, I'd have though twice :)
[06:16] <nickrud> jaime, please, no caps, it feels like shouting :)
[06:16] <intelikey> flaek ask again later, maybe someone will drop in...  also if you can state specific errors and details it's easier to get answers.
[06:17] <jaime> does any one has tls tcl libary for the amsn
[06:17] <troy_s> flaek:  whats your issue?
[06:17] <nickrud> !amsn
[06:17] <ubotu> I guess amsn is at http://amsn.sourceforge.net
[06:17] <jaime> i am new to this
[06:17] <nickrud> hm, no help there
[06:17] <rseward> how to report dapper bugs?
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> !bugs
[06:17] <troy_s> rseward:  launchpad.net/malone
[06:17] <nickrud> !bugs
[06:18] <MorbidHunger> fear the claw!
[06:18] <Dawei> !nvidia
[06:18] <nickrud> ubotu's being recalcitrent lately
[06:18] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:18] <intelikey> GMullen you run ubuntu and have a root password ?   don't you know that's illegal    and the staff will take away our internet priviledges for that..... ?
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> rseward: Maybe the bot's dead.  Anyway, yeah, http://launchpad.net, click on Ubuntu, click on Bugs, report a bug.  It's pretty straightforward.
[06:18] <intelikey> you're trying to get us all killed.
[06:19] <nickrud> PyroticShadow, we're happy for you
[06:19] <GMullen> .....
[06:19] <GMullen> yes i did know that
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Dramatic today aren't we?
[06:19] <GMullen> is that a problem
[06:20] <freeindex> I thought that lack of root thing was kind of weird too.  I just found out about that today.  Before I didn't know what was going on.
[06:20] <PyroticShadow> nickrud, was stating that because apparently it's... "illegal"....
[06:20] <rseward> tonyyarusso - do I need to search to find out if my bug is a dup.
[06:20] <Dawei> intelikey: that's until someone comes up with a hack into sudo :)
[06:20] <intelikey> for shame PyroticShadow,  i'm gona tell.
[06:20] <freeindex> But it makes sense now that I think about it.
[06:20] <rseward> ?
[06:20] <nickrud> PyroticShadow, rflol
[06:20] <IcemanV9> GMullen and PyroticShadow: you're the only one with root passwd out of 700+ ppl in here :)
[06:20] <PyroticShadow> intelikey, please do.
[06:20] <troy_s> rseward:  probably and launchpad.net/malone
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> rseward: You will make the bug triaging team very happy if you do.
[06:20] <PyroticShadow> intelikey, and then tell me what happens..
[06:20] <intelikey> tonyyarusso hehhe    just playing...  i have a root password too
[06:20] <rseward> Search facilities seem limited..
[06:21] <PyroticShadow> IcemanV9...joy?
[06:21] <jaime> it is true that hackers can hack linux
[06:21] <nickrud> PyroticShadow, if we were evil and stupid and all that stuff we'd say you were a slightly easier target than us without a root password
[06:21] <BioVorE> jaime: you can hack anything..
[06:21] <jaime> ok
[06:21] <troy_s> jaime:  any computer has security flaws.
[06:21] <intelikey> jaime very true.
[06:21] <troy_s> jaime:  if you want security and connection to the net, try www.openbsd.org
[06:21] <jaime> thanks
[06:22] <troy_s> jaime:  but ultimately, there is always someone smart enough to find a hole.
[06:22] <intelikey> only secure box is the one with no power to it...
[06:22] <PyroticShadow> IcemanV9 sudo -i...even greater
[06:22] <troy_s> no power can still be stolen :)
[06:22] <BioVorE> jaime: security is only as good as the administrator how sets i up
[06:22] <PyroticShadow> nickrud, to your comment, most anyone in here, could probably hack the shit out of me.. being I am a n00b..
[06:22] <jaime> ok
[06:22] <troy_s> maybe in a concrete box 600ft below the earth
[06:23] <troy_s> skip that... just make the computer out of concrete and it is probably unhackable.
[06:23] <BioVorE> jaime: ussualy on a large unix system, dumb users are the week link.
[06:23] <nickrud> PyroticShadow, I have used linux for years, am still a noob about security. That's why I use accepted best practices
[06:23] <jaime> you want to know why i am asking you people this stuff
[06:23] <troy_s> jaime:  further googles -- cdc, phrack, alt2600, l0pht.
[06:23] <Dawei> intelikey: if there's no pwer to it, there may be way to do it, too :D
[06:23] <BioVorE> debian has a nice manual for security policy and locking down a debian based system.
[06:23] <jdrake> Is there a way to set the permissions/owner/group on an automounted disk? Specifically I would like them to be mounted as jdrake:user
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> 'cause you're curious?
[06:24] <DJ_Danni> Hey shut xine noat support .nsv??
[06:24] <intelikey> and i stated eariler in #ubuntu+1  the old "sudo is safer because they have to guess your name and passwd"  is like a no brainer for those that don't change their irc-name   i.e.   if irc-name = `whoami`     like duh.
[06:24] <jaime> and cuase i am new to this system
[06:24] <Healot> DJ, no?
[06:24] <nickrud> intelikey, doh. best practices :)
[06:24] <freeindex> PyroMithrandir: A newb who uses elite-speak.
[06:24] <DJ_Danni> I read aboat it somwhere:S
[06:24] <troy_s> jaime:  only the commercial operating systems will kid you about security (read apple and microsoft)
[06:24] <DJ_Danni> AAHH on Winamp Forum
[06:25] <freeindex> Sorry for the off-topic.
[06:25] <intelikey> Dawei hehhe if you can hack an unpowered box.  you have solved the worlds energy problems...
[06:25] <troy_s> jaime:  the most proactively secure operating system is by far openbsd.  you can learn a lot from how they code.
[06:25] <jaime> ok
[06:25] <troy_s> dizy sort your wacom out?
[06:25] <rusakk0> my biggest security varrant is that I dont have anything important on my computer so it is not worth hacking into :D
[06:25] <Healot> the secure by default claim of OpenBSD creator is somewhat true
[06:25] <dizy> nope
[06:26] <rusakk0> unless someone wants my school papers written in Finnish ;)
[06:26] <troy_s> rusakk0:  your insecurity might not be data
[06:26] <dizy> i followed allt eh instructions but the tablet still acts like a regular mouse
[06:26] <troy_s> rusakk0:  everyone's insecurity is everyone's problem.  period.  data or not.
[06:26] <BioVorE> Healot: it true because openbsd dosn;t come with anything installed :-P
[06:26] <Dawei> intelikey: well, for starters, turn the power on to it...
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> topyli: Have any use for rusakk0's papers?
[06:26] <troy_s> dizy:  regarding pressure sensitivity?
[06:26] <jaime> is there a security for linux
[06:26] <troy_s> biovore:  ignorant statement
[06:26] <BioVorE> jaime: yes..
[06:26] <dizy> no pressure sensitivity
[06:26] <Healot> the word is resource... it could be data, your processing power, your printer, etc
[06:26] <Dawei> I've been thinking of gong to the Univ of Helsinki
[06:26] <intelikey> rusakk0 ditto
[06:26] <jaime> ok what does that does
[06:26] <rusakk0> haha, i can e-mail them for ya :)
[06:26] <troy_s> biovore:  do some research before you state such a buffonary statement such as that
[06:26] <BioVorE> troy_s: maybe.. but its mostly true..
[06:27] <BioVorE> troy_s: I run a openbsd box
[06:27] <intelikey> Dawei then it no longer qualifies
[06:27] <troy_s> biovore:  not even close by a long shot
[06:27] <troy_s> biovore:  random pids, random memory allocation, blowfish encryption by default, partitioned structure, just to name a few
[06:27] <Dawei> intelikey: shucks.
[06:27] <troy_s> biovore:  the list is huge.  it is secure because it is well coded and proactive.  NOT because it has zero ports.
[06:27] <BioVorE> troy_s: I am talking about services.. i think it only installs ssh
[06:28] <BioVorE> witch is a good thing
[06:28] <troy_s> biovore:  that is just the tip of the iceberg.  who do you think wrote ssh?
[06:28] <BioVorE> well hmm its call openbsd
[06:28] <BioVorE> open ssh
[06:28] <dizy> troy_s  do you have any ideas?
[06:28] <troy_s> dizy:  you using gimp?
[06:28] <topyli> tonyyarusso: not really. maybe we could just delete them (better just to move them around a bit to demonstrate a point :)
[06:28] <intelikey> jaime several apps in the repos will help you harden your box if you are interested.   apt-cache search security
[06:28] <dizy> yea.. i treid pressure in gimp.. no go
[06:29] <troy_s> dizy:  hold on
[06:29] <DJ_Danni> Hey do you know where i can get som Player Who Support .nsv Streams??
[06:29] <jaime> i got to do that in the terminal right
[06:29] <troy_s> dizy:  you turned it on in gimp under file-prefs-> extended input?
[06:29] <PORDO> _who_ supports?  your player is a human?
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> topyli: (that would be fun)
[06:29] <Healot> DJ_Danni: try xmms.org
[06:29] <dizy> yes
[06:29] <Healot> check out the plugin
[06:29] <tuxtheslacker> hey guys, what's a webcam program?
[06:29] <DJ_Danni> Do you mean the xmms Player??
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> DJ_Danni: What are those?
[06:29] <troy_s> dizy:  and you configured all three?>
[06:29] <tuxtheslacker> like where can I get one to check to see if this thing works?
[06:29] <dizy> yes
[06:30] <DJ_Danni> That are TV Stream used on Shoutcast
[06:30] <troy_s> dizy:  wow.  and you are sure you are on the right input?
[06:30] <DJ_Danni> They are in .nsv
[06:30] <IcemanV9> tuxtheslacker: apt-cache search webcam
[06:30] <Dawei> I've been hacking for 20 years now and the only things that I've seen to be invulnerable are places I don't want to put the time into, or do the time for.
[06:30] <troy_s> dizy:  i know i had to fiddle to get mine, ultimately it was my input was input was set to the wrong one... mine was on 3
[06:30] <PyroMithrandir> "<freeindex> PyroMithrandir: A newb who uses elite-speak." ??
[06:30] <dizy> do you want me to show you my xorg.conf
[06:31] <troy_s> dizy you can msg me
[06:31] <nickrud> DJ_Danni, mplayer (according to gentoo) is supposed to play nsv , do you have a stream to test?
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> Dawei: What are the usually vulnerabilities?  (/msg or -offtopic if you want - wondering what mistakes I've probably made ;) )
[06:31] <dizy> msg troy_s .
[06:31] <DJ_Danni> Yeas http://212.30.223.9:8002/;stream.nsv
[06:31] <jaime> ok does any one know how can i play the music files
[06:32] <dizy> damnit.. how
[06:32] <dizy> heh
[06:32] <troy_s> dawei:  google phrack, cdc, l0pht, alt2600 and start doing some reading
[06:32] <troy_s> sorry... that was targetting tonyyarusso
[06:32] <DJ_Danni> Did that Woork?
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> troy_s: Thanks
[06:33] <jaime> does anyone know how can i play a mp file
[06:33] <intelikey> tonyyarusso if he answers that msg me
[06:33] <troy_s> jaime:  mp3?  mp4?  mp2?
[06:33] <nickrud> DJ_Danni, a sec, I have to reinstall mplayer (a side effect of the wvidal fiasco)
[06:33] <intelikey> curious as a cat....
[06:33] <DJ_Danni> ok
[06:33] <DJ_Danni> The application can not be found in your archive. This usually means that it is not available for your hardware plattform.
[06:33] <jaime> mp3
[06:33] <deameyes> what is used in ubuntu for "gcc_select"?
[06:33] <DJ_Danni> This Error i get when i try to Install him:S
[06:33] <troy_s> jaime:  wiki.ubuntu.com search for restricted formats.
[06:33] <freeindex> PyroMithrandir: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet
[06:34] <nickrud> DJ_Danni, working here with mplayer
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> jaime: Don't even have to search.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:34] <DJ_Danni> ok
[06:34] <DJ_Danni> The application can not be found in your archive. This usually means that it is not available for your hardware plattform.
[06:34] <DJ_Danni> Know this error?
[06:34] <PyroMithrandir> freeindex, no, I figured it out, you used tab complete after someone else whose name started with "Pyro" left :P
[06:34] <nickrud> lousy music with a yellow window
[06:34] <DJ_Danni> Where can i download MPlayer?
[06:34] <freeindex> PyroMithrandir: Oh! Crap :)
[06:35] <troy_s> dizy:  you will need to register your handle at freenode to do private msgs here.
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> DJ_Danni: What platform?
[06:35] <DJ_Danni> Linux Ubuntu
[06:35] <troy_s> dj_danni:  platform means architecture
[06:35] <DJ_Danni> What do you mean?:$
[06:35] <jaime> it didn`t find anything
[06:35] <troy_s> dj_danni:  amd64, i386, macppc
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> DJ_Danni: Yeah, we need better words.
[06:35] <DJ_Danni> hang on
[06:35] <troy_s> jaime: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:36] <troy_s> dj_danni:  uname -r from a cli
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> DJ_Danni: and if i386 whether it's old or new (P3, etc.)
[06:36] <troy_s> !mp3
[06:36] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:36] <nickrud> DJ_Danni, I think it's using the w32codecs to play that, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for windows codecs,
[06:36] <troy_s> !w32codecs
[06:36] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[06:37] <intelikey> anyone play with --> harden-tools - Tools to enhance or analyze the security of the local system   ?
[06:37] <deameyes> what is used in ubuntu for "sudo gcc_select"?
[06:37] <troy_s> dj_danni:  open up a cli and type "uname -r"
[06:37] <dizy> troy_s  http://dizy.cc/xorg.conf
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Nope.  Might well check it out now...
[06:37] <DJ_Danni> Where can i found that?
[06:37] <jaime> ok i am in the page so what do i do know
[06:37] <troy_s> dizy:  i am almost certain it won't be event1 diz
[06:38] <troy_s> dizy:  did you cd into that dev dir and do a cat on it?  then wiggle the pen around.
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: I like the disclaimer in the package description.  hehe.
[06:38] <dizy> yea
[06:38] <intelikey> troy_s or he could  /exec -o uname -r  in here even
[06:38] <dizy> ill go try other events
[06:38] <troy_s> intel:  way way way too l33t4m3
[06:38] <Lilandra> Hi
[06:38] <troy_s> intel:  i'm a kludge.
[06:38] <intelikey> hehhe tonyyarusso yeah
[06:39] <nickrud> DJ_Danni, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see alternate media players & windows codecs
[06:39] <jaime> hi lilandra
[06:39] <troy_s> !mp3
[06:39] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:39] <DJ_Danni> ok
[06:39] <Lilandra> Is it ok to ask for help here?
[06:39] <intelikey> lol
[06:39] <troy_s> lilandra: absolutely.  its ubuntu. read the code of conduct
[06:39] <troy_s> lilandra:  anyone who installs it should abide by the code of conduct.
[06:39] <shao_lo> does anyone know if firefox/java on dapper drake is known crash problem?
[06:39] <troy_s> lilandra:  that means we are at your service.
[06:39] <nickrud> o.O
[06:39] <Lilandra> thanks!
[06:40] <dizy> troy_s   btw... on the forum it sais to   dmesg | grep wacom ... and i should get something back... but i dont get anything back
[06:40] <deameyes> ok "sudo gcc_select" doesn't work, any ideas?
[06:40] <dizy> duno if that matterns
[06:40] <dizy> matters*
[06:40] <troy_s> shao_lo:  32 or 64 bit?
[06:40] <DarkJesus> # Appears as HUGH
[06:40] <shao_lo> 64
[06:40] <Lilandra> So,  my friend has a win xp machine wirelessly connected to the net and wants to use a crossover cable and nics to share with his ubuntu machine
[06:40] <troy_s> dizy:  just try the cat on event2 or 3 for me :)
[06:40] <Lilandra> but ubuntu'sn ot recognizing the net...
[06:40] <troy_s> dizy: pretty please.
[06:40] <nickrud> deameyes, sudo apt-get install build-essential, it's always taken care of any gcc stuff for me
[06:40] <intelikey> installs it & code of conduct ?      errr i thought code of conduct applied to this channel  not the os   ?
[06:41] <nickrud> deameyes, erm, except maybe that, cuz I didin't read
[06:41] <troy_s> lilandra:  not thru a crossover.  easiest solution is to buy a 10 dollar hub or router.
[06:41] <deameyes> I did the build-essential install already, should I try it again?
[06:41] <Lilandra> yeah, but if he currently has a crossover?
[06:41] <troy_s> lilandra, otherwise you are going to need to do a little setup.  i THINK firestarter will deal with that.
[06:41] <nickrud> deameyes, no, but what are you expecting to do with that command?
[06:41] <Healot> deameyes: sure you can reinstall, but is there  a need to?
[06:41] <Lilandra> Hm, I thought I did it once before without firestarter
[06:41] <dizy> i treid even 2 and 0 .. nothing... event1 does it
[06:41] <troy_s> lilandra:  internet connection sharing thru firestarter.  but don't take my word for it.  seem to recall reading about it somewhere.
[06:41] <shao_lo> troy_s: its 64 bit
[06:41] <deameyes> chang gcc to 3.3
[06:42] <troy_s> lil:  possible, but i seem to remember that good old crossover needs some setup
[06:42] <troy_s> shao:  there is no java or flash for 64bit...
[06:42] <troy_s> shao:  wiki.ubuntu.com search for flash java amd64 and you will have your page.
[06:42] <Healot> !flash
[06:42] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:42] <nickrud> deameyes, 4.0 is normal, and 3.4  & 3.3 are available (apt-get install gcc-3.x
[06:42] <jaime> i cant get to handle it
[06:42] <troy_s> shao:  and once you finish jumping through the hoops, send some pleasant mail to sun to speed up open sourcing java and adobe to open source their flash
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: CoC applies to all activities relating to Ubuntu - channel, projects, mailing lists, LUGs, wiki, ...
[06:43] <nickrud> deameyes, do you really need 3.3?
[06:43] <troy_s> healot:  64 bit he said
[06:43] <Healot> shao_lo: you can actually install+run a 32bit Firefox with Flash player :)
[06:43] <deameyes> yea, it's for podzilla compiling
[06:43] <jaime> do any one of you got e-mail so i can add you so you can please help me
[06:43] <shao_lo> troy_s: is 64 bit java for firefox not going to make it into dapper drake?
[06:43] <intelikey> troy_s if i read Lilandra correctly the xp box will be the server/router not the linux box
[06:43] <troy_s> jaime:  irc is probably your best bet... search the forums, then the wiki or vice versa, then come here.
[06:43] <nickrud> deameyes, then sudo apt-get install gcc-3.3 , then when you compile, export CC='gcc-3.3'
[06:44] <troy_s> intel:  run with it.
[06:44] <Lilandra> yes!
[06:44] <SurfnKid> give it to me baby ahh ahh good song
[06:44] <Lilandra> that's it cuz it's an old laptop without wireless
[06:44] <SurfnKid> Im pretty fly for a white guy
[06:44] <jaime> ok
[06:44] <deameyes> ok
[06:44] <troy_s> ok well i'm not so good at thinking or reading.
[06:44] <Healot> I am pretty fly for a non-white guy
[06:44] <SurfnKid> hehe
[06:44] <Lilandra> joe_user: can't send private messages
[06:44] <troy_s> then setup xp for sharing.  or better yet, throw ms out the window and use open source software for a free world.
[06:44] <joe_user> ahh
[06:45] <intelikey> yeah. tonyyarusso but not the os.  ie ubuntu is not responsable if i hack the pentigon and has no code of conduct that regulates that....    (not a hacker, just an example)
[06:45] <Lilandra> joe_user: well trying to help my friend
[06:45] <SurfnKid> Elinks rocks
[06:45] <deameyes> nickrud if I install 3.3 will it switch over to it?
[06:45] <nickrud> Healot, that has rhythm :) (me is just over the edge, some times)
[06:45] <Lilandra> joe_user: we're hoping to setup ip addresses
[06:45] <troy_s> lil:  i think its ics
[06:45] <SurfnKid> reminds me of back in 1992 when http was text based
[06:45] <joe_user> Lilandra: are you having probs with loading the network driver?
[06:45] <Healot> troy_s: some people prefer Microsoft products, it is a matter of you much you know :)
[06:45] <troy_s> lil: in xp
[06:45] <WorkerJ> 	I'm on windows. aside from VLC, what's a free mpeg player i can download?
[06:45] <nickrud> deameyes, not by default, that's why I mentioned the export CC= thing
[06:45] <troy_s> worker:  vlc, mplayer
[06:45] <deameyes> ok
[06:45] <Healot> WorkerJ: Windows MEdia Player
[06:45] <WorkerJ> Healot: but it wont' play my mpeg files
[06:46] <Lilandra> joe_user: i'm not sure
[06:46] <jaime> where is the wiki network i dont see it on my irx
[06:46] <jaime> irc
[06:46] <intelikey> codes of conduct only apply where responsability and therefore authority apply.
[06:46] <WorkerJ> troy_s: but mplayer doesn't have gui
[06:46] <troy_s> workerj:  figure out the wrapper.  figure out the codec.  mplayer will play everything more or less.
[06:46] <joe_user> Lilandra, is this temporary or permanent?
[06:46] <Healot> WorkerJ: WMP plays MPEG files fine
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: True.  (Although I'll look the other way if you do....)
[06:46] <troy_s> workerj:  mplayer doesn't but there are 1000000 guis written for it.
[06:46] <Healot> if you're thinking of MPEG-2/4, then it can't. WorkerJ
[06:46] <samuel_> Can You burn an iso in ubuntu if so how
[06:46] <troy_s> workerj:  and when you migrate to open source, you get a gui as a bonus... something to look forwards to.
[06:46] <DJ_Danni> ok lol i am Downloading MPlayer
[06:46] <zcat[1] > you just need codecs
[06:46] <nickrud> WorkerJ, xine will play just about anything that mplayer does, and mplayer does come with a gui: gmplayer
[06:46] <Lilandra> ok, i'm trying to help my friend over IIM
[06:47] <troy_s> samuel:  right click burn image
[06:47] <DJ_Danni> Acivare where is that?
[06:47] <samuel_> ok
[06:47] <samuel_> thanks
[06:47] <samuel_> :)
[06:47] <Lilandra> so i don't know all the answers
[06:47] <Lilandra> i'll try to see if i can get him on an irc channel
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> samuel_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningISOHowto iirc
[06:47] <troy_s> lil:  internet connection sharing methinks.
[06:47] <WorkerJ> nickrud: and mplayer with gui is available for windows?
[06:47] <joe_user> ahhh
[06:47] <samuel_> thanks
[06:47] <jayrod06> does any one no of a way to get the quicktime encoders into ubuntu?
[06:47] <intelikey> tonyyarusso if i do.... i'll look the other way too.  at san quenton
[06:47] <troy_s> lilandra:  internet connection sharing.
[06:47] <Lilandra> no irc
[06:47] <Lilandra> right, the sharing from windows is fine
[06:47] <nickrud> WorkerJ, no clue, I don't have a windows install I use
[06:47] <Lilandra> it's accessing it on ubuntu
[06:47] <samuel_> is dapper comin out june 1st ? or could it be any time
[06:47] <zcat[1] > http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_Lite_Codec_Pack.htm  -- codec pack that will let WMP play mpeg, divx, DVD's, etc etc...
[06:48] <troy_s> jay:  quicktime is laden.  maybe a different wrapper?  if you insist, i think ffmpeg can do it.
[06:48] <Healot> samuel_: next week, we can be certain...
[06:48] <jayrod06> well quicktime's aac encoder has been rated best by listening tests so
[06:48] <spikeb> everything is patent laden when it comes to video
[06:48] <joe_user> Lilandra, ask him if he can ping the IP address on the other side of the crossover cable
[06:48] <samuel_> cool
[06:48] <zcat[1] > klite will also let WMP play quicktime and Real..
[06:49] <james050286> how do i view .wmv files with ubuntu?
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> samuel_: Yes, June 1.
[06:49] <troy_s> spikeb: there are a few options actually.  theora.
[06:49] <zcat[1] > !w32codecs
[06:49] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[06:49] <intelikey> james050286 i don't know how you do but i use vlc
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> james050286: ^^
[06:50] <laserline> james050286: w32codecs and install VLC Media Player
[06:50] <jayrod06> !vlc
[06:50] <ubotu> methinks vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[06:50] <troy_s> !w32codecs
[06:50] <intelikey> !vlc
[06:50] <Lilandra> ok
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> Ah, the redundance.
[06:50] <troy_s> lilandra:  any luck?
[06:50] <zcat[1] > or gstreamer plugins..
[06:50] <Lilandra> info overload...:)
[06:50] <troy_s> tony:  part of the game helping newer folks.
[06:50] <troy_s> :)
[06:50] <kestas> hey, I'd like to order some ubuntu 6.06 CDs now, the front page seemed to give me the impression I could do this
[06:50] <joe_user> haha
[06:50] <troy_s> lilandra:  any luck?
[06:50] <Lilandra> not yet
[06:50] <kestas> but the shipit page does't say which version it ships
[06:51] <troy_s> kestas:  launchpad and signup, it will tell you there what version.
[06:51] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, tired of saying the same thing over and over ? :)
[06:51] <kestas> so Im not sure if it'll send me 5.10 or reserve me 6.06
[06:51] <jayrod06> only dapper cd's now
[06:51] <zcat[1] > kestas: Yeah, you can order them now. I ordered 10 ubuntu and 10 kubuntu yesterday
[06:51] <troy_s> kestas:  i believe they are dappers now
[06:51] <jayrod06> no more 5.10
[06:51] <spikeb> i ordered mine ten days ago
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> kestas: It is doing Dapper (6.06) as of recently
[06:51] <zcat[1] > they won't get shipped for a few days yet though :)
[06:51] <kestas> okay, thanks
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: I was just laughing at the bot calls at the same time.
[06:51] <troy_s> hey dizy, you get wacom done?
[06:51] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i'm lagging 32seconds... i can type an answer to a question and then read 10 answers before mine posts
[06:51] <zcat[1] > !botsnack
[06:51] <ubotu> :)
[06:52] <nickrud> intelikey, that sucks, where are you?
[06:52] <Lilandra> network is unreachable
[06:52] <troy_s> wow... this ubuntu popularity is very very promising.  i am impressed as hell.
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: I kow the feeling.  (Dialup is so much fun.)
[06:52] <troy_s> lilandra:  ipconfig /all and see if the box has an ip
[06:52] <troy_s> erm...
[06:52] <nickrud> dialup is back in my future, will it be that bad ...
[06:52] <Lilandra> ubuntu?
[06:52] <troy_s> lilandra:  sorry on the ubuntu box it is ifconfig
[06:52] <Lilandra> i was wndering
[06:52] <Lilandra> we're going to try to manually change ip addresses?
[06:53] <dizy> no
[06:53] <troy_s> lilandra:  you can set one
[06:53] <intelikey> nickrud down town USA   but like tonyyarusso said dialup is such fun
[06:53] <dizy> same thing
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: I'm surviving...  Gotta let aptitude run overnight for keeping up with Dapper though.
[06:53] <dizy> you saw my msg about event ?
[06:53] <troy_s> lilandra:  pretty simple via the gnome... put it on the subnet as the windows box so they can see each other.  if windblows is 192.168.0.51 put it to 192.168.0.52
[06:53] <dizy> i tried both 0 and 2
[06:53] <dizy> only event1 does something
[06:53] <troy_s> dizy:  does it respond on three?
[06:53] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, I have some scripts I'll be dusting off for that, but I've never irc'd on dialup. ouch
[06:53] <intelikey> nickrud if you try dist-upgrade and irc at one time.  it will be that bad.
[06:53] <dizy> no
[06:53] <troy_s> dizy:  many seem to be on three
[06:53] <dizy> tried it as well
[06:53] <troy_s> dizy:  1?
[06:54] <Lilandra> windows has a mask of 255.255.0.0
[06:54] <jayrod06> hey tony how's minneapolis doing
[06:54] <dizy> event1
[06:54] <Lilandra> thanks joe_user
[06:54] <nickrud> intelikey, I'll note that
[06:54] <zcat[1] > I'm setting up a machine for a guy that just wants to buy stuff online and surf porn. His last machine got a dialler and rang up $600 in calls to some country we'd never heard of. This time he's getting dapper!
[06:54] <troy_s> dizy:  yah, try the gamut
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: It's only really bad if I'm trying to do an aptitude upgrade and play in #ubuntu-trivia at the same time
[06:54] <joe_user> sho nuff
[06:54] <intelikey> tonyyarusso 10-4 on the night-overs
[06:54] <dizy> ?
[06:54] <spikeb> zcat[1] : sweet lol
[06:54] <dizy> i duno what gamut is
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> jayrod06: Hot.  Disgustingly so.  Third day in a row in the 90s tomorrow.
[06:54] <nickrud> !dict gamut
[06:54] <jayrod06> ya its bad here to
[06:54] <troy_s> dizy:  well i tried 0 and it responded, but it was only on event3 that i got activity ONLY from the pad.
[06:54] <spikeb> tonyyarusso: same here
[06:55] <nickrud> heh. cafuego needs to add a dictionary to ubotu
[06:55] <jayrod06> the worst thing about graduation is so much free time and no macbook for 2 days
[06:55] <dizy> for event3 it actually just sais no such file or dir
[06:55] <jayrod06> damn holidays and business days
[06:55] <troy_s> dizy:  so try them all... if it insists its 1, and you can config it in gimp, and it is turned, on... i'm out of guesses.  it SHOULD work.
[06:55] <dizy> event0 responds but no activity
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: It had one at one time.  A lot of those types of features only work in /msg or -offtopic though
[06:55] <intelikey> we've been upper 90's
[06:55] <dizy> :(
[06:55] <troy_s> dizy:  i did eventually get mine up.
[06:56] <troy_s> with pressure sensitivity
[06:56] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, right after I said that, I could just imagine about 20 lines of text scrolling by ,,,
[06:56] <dizy> i have the intuos 3.. new one.. maybe thats the problem
[06:56] <troy_s> dizy:  but the problem was all through the prefs in gimp.  not the driver issue.  all setup through extended input devices.
[06:56] <troy_s> dizy:  oh crappers!
[06:56] <troy_s> dizy:  yep... hold on... i thought it was a graphire... hold.
[06:56] <Lilandra> troy_s: do i need to set a gateway for the xp box? even if it's the gateway
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> Okay, it's not so bad yet, but keeping in mind that we're going to have an onslaught of people in here when Dapper releases, just a friendly reminder that we have #ubuntu-offtopic for ALL non-support discussion (so we should try to limit the fluff so we can see the questions).  :)
[06:57] <troy_s> lil:  no, but the linny box will need the xp box as gate.
[06:57] <samuel_> Am looking for a download mirror for dapperdrake latest beta am in NZ
[06:57] <samuel_> can anyone help
[06:57] <Lilandra> ok
[06:57] <jayrod06> brb
[06:57] <Hobbsee> !tell samuel_ about mirrors
[06:57] <Drasl1> where can I put scripts to load on start-up?
[06:58] <Dawei> Bug report time on a Breezy>Dapper update! I did 3 "sudo apt-get -f install"s to get things going, once from an "x-less" environment, because the installation screwed up "x". In the process: 1) My sound no longer works. (I have an nVidia card) 2) I had to re-install a few programs that I had running before, they just disappeared. To put it mildly... whoever said that Dapper Drake was ready to release was not looking at life the way that I l
[06:58] <Dawei> it.
[06:58] <nickrud> intelikey, word :unknown command :)
[06:58] <nickrud> intelikey, oh, nm I see
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> Drasl1: /etc/rc2.d/bootmisc.sh I think.
[06:58] <troy_s> dizy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WacomTabletIssue?highlight=%28intuos%29
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> Drasl1: Or just /etc/rc2.d/ in general.
[06:58] <intelikey> Drasl1 /etc/init.d/   and link it via update-rc.d
[06:58] <deameyes> anyone know what error 2 means?
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> Dawei: Did you submit them in Launchpad yet?
[06:59] <intelikey> nickrud it's a bash script i wrote that does dict look-ups
[06:59] <samuel_> found one...what do i download I want an iso ftp://ftp.citylink.co.nz/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/
[06:59] <dizy> thanks troy.. ill give that a shot.. gotta get some food now... maybe ill catch you later
[06:59] <nickrud> intelikey, yes, I'd like to see it here ;P
[06:59] <dizy> thanks for all the help
[06:59] <Drasl1> wait, is it /etc/init.d, /etc/rc2.d, or both?
[06:59] <troy_s> dawei:  the problem with sound is nvidia, NOT linux
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> Drasl1: intelikey's way is more correct I think
[06:59] <zcat[1] > Dawei: it might be better off the CD. I did an update to Breezy that way and X broke but otherwise it wasn't too bad. Dapper broke _everything_ but that was beta2
[07:00] <nickrud> Drasl1, the actual script resides in /etc/init.d/ , but it'll be linked into /etc/rc2.d
[07:00] <troy_s> dawei:  if nvidia had open sourced their specs, sound would not be an issue for their chips.  let them know.
[07:00] <Drasl1> k.  thanks.
[07:00] <nickrud> Drasl1, ls -l /etc/rc2.d/* will show you how it's done
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> PyroticShadow: right-click Add to panel, do you see it in the list?
[07:00] <spikeb> PyroticShadow: that's called notification area
[07:00] <Dawei> tonyyarusso: it seems that almost all of the bugs are mentioned but not confirmed.
[07:00] <samuel_> ftp://ftp.citylink.co.nz/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/ What do I download for dapper?
[07:01] <zcat[1] > major bugs three days from release? Not good :(
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> Dawei: Ah.  Might want to comment that you second them at least.  (Not sure who's responsible for marking them confirmed...)
[07:01] <Dawei> troy_s: I would agree, except that nVidia ran fine with Breezy.
[07:01] <intelikey> #Gamut /Gamut/ (?), n. [F. gamme + ut the name of a musical note. F. gamme is fr. the name of the Greek letter ?, which was used by Guido d'Arezzo to represent the first note of his model scale. See Gamma, and Ut.]  (Mus.) The scale.
[07:01] <troy_s> samuel:  http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/
[07:01] <intelikey> nickrud that ^
[07:01] <intelikey> /word gamut   <--- was that
[07:01] <PyroticShadow> spikeb...you saved my life..
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> samuel_: What exactly are you looking for?  (Live w/installer or old text-mode installer, architecture?)
[07:01] <spikeb> PyroticShadow: sweet :)
[07:01] <troy_s> dawei:  still, breaking sound is ultimately due to closed source issues.  you will be able to get it back up, but i advise you to buy a card for 10 bucks with a known chipset as the oss proprietary drivers for nvidia stink to put it mildly.
[07:01] <nickrud> intelikey, hrm, and I thought gamut was, 'to heck and back'
[07:02] <PyroticShadow> spikeb Thanks billions and then some :D
[07:02] <peruano> hi guys, somebody can tell me if this is right,   mount -t vfat/dev/fd0/media/floppy , after that i do this : cd /media/floppy , but still, i can't see my floppy
[07:02] <spikeb> PyroticShadow: no problem
[07:02] <nickrud> zcat[1] , it's a lifetime goal
[07:02] <zcat[1] > one desktop at a time...
[07:02] <samuel_> I'm looking to install dapper drake latest beta....dont care if its live installer or just installer.....
[07:02] <troy_s> dawei:  also, proprietary drivers get all hooped if you did any sort of custom work.  just the nature of the beast and the downside of closed sources.  again, this isn't the open source community's fault -- its the vendor.  let them know that you are now educated and dislike their stance on their drivers.
[07:02] <zcat[1] > I think vista's going to help us with bug #1 though..
[07:02] <samuel_> i want a fast link...
[07:02] <nickrud> zcat[1] , there have been some doozies in the last couple of days
[07:03] <troy_s> samuel:  did you try that link i showed you?
[07:03] <troy_s> samuel: you can pull fast off that site generally.
[07:03] <samuel_> thanks
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> samuel_: Kind of computer?  (ix86, AMD64, macppc?)
[07:04] <troy_s> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/flight-7/
[07:04] <Lilandra> how do you restart a nic? does it automatically restart after you enter new info?
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> zcat[1] : Sure seems like it.
[07:04] <troy_s> samuel:  good luck from there.
[07:04] <troy_s> lilandra:  sudo ifdown eth0
[07:04] <intelikey> nickrud according to the info on that, it hit the 1925 websters dict for that def.   other books are avalable.
[07:04] <troy_s> lilandra:  sudo ifup eth0
[07:04] <troy_s> lilandra:  or you can issue restart to the networking script
[07:04] <samuel_> ix86
[07:04] <Lilandra> it worked
[07:04] <ubotu> Dictionary 'gamut' (2 shown): the entire scale of musical notes ;; a complete extent or range: "a face that expressed a gamut of emotions".
[07:04] <nickrud> intelikey, I'm thinking of the phrase ' run the gamut '
[07:05] <samuel_> I ditched Windows XP cuz I love gnome
[07:05] <troy_s> lilandra:  if you do that through gnome, i think it automatically downs and ups.
[07:05] <AlmtyBob> ok maybe someone can help me with this, I have an ASUS A8n5x with three hard drives.  The main drive in SATA1, and the other two in SATA2 and SATA4.  I got a new drive I want to add and when I plug it in to SATA3, grub claims /sda1 doesn't exist
[07:05] <nickrud> oh, ubotu finally answerd
[07:05] <Lilandra> it's working!
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> Whoa!  cdimage has cool icons!
[07:05] <Lilandra> thanks
[07:05] <troy_s> almty:  only when you plug into channel 3?
[07:05] <samuel_> Windows XP is for retards like my wife.
[07:05] <jayrod06> back
[07:05] <AlmtyBob> as if my mobo is rearranging the SATA ports, though nothing in the bios seems odd.  I also tried not adding the new drive, but rather changing the drive that was on SATA4 to SATA3 instead, same problem
[07:05] <AlmtyBob> yah troy_s
[07:05] <Amaranth> i forget, how do you get a list of everything that's connected to the internet?
[07:05] <AlmtyBob> ANYTHING in SATA3 = no good
[07:05] <nickrud> !dict retard
[07:05] <Amaranth> what command is it?
[07:06] <nickrud> see what comes back, and how long
[07:06] <troy_s> almty:  doesn't sound great there brother.  make sure your firmware is updated on the bios...
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> samuel_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/flight-7/dapper-install-i386.iso.torrent or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/flight-7/dapper-live-i386.iso.torrent (just remove the .torrent from the end if not enough peers)
[07:06] <samuel_> thanks
[07:06] <troy_s> amaranth:  ifconfig -a
[07:07] <Amaranth> no
[07:07] <jayrod06> why do you want flight 7?
[07:07] <Amaranth> what programs are talking on what ports
[07:07] <troy_s> netstat
[07:07] <Lilandra> ok, i am oging and thanks! nice meeting you all
[07:07] <nickrud> Amaranth, netstat -tu ?
[07:07] <troy_s> lil:  good luck. spread the faith.
[07:07] <nickrud> Amaranth, ah, netstat -plantu
[07:08] <drumline_> anyone here running an AM2 dual core with Xen or VMWare?
[07:08] <intelikey> hmmmm  yuch.  tty6 [root#~]  lilo
[07:08] <intelikey> Fatal: Empty map section
[07:08] <troy_s> x2 here but native dapper.
[07:08] <Madpilot> greetings, Ubuntubers
[07:08] <samuel_> wow it's fast
[07:08] <intelikey> but the map file is good and the map=/boot/map is good in lilo.conf  so what gives ?
[07:09] <SurfnKid> whoa i got ubuntu to print thru the network to an XP box :D
[07:09] <drumline_> troy: how does it run?
[07:09] <nickrud> SurfnKid, kudos
[07:09] <drumline_> comparitively with regular core?
[07:09] <SurfnKid> wow too much for one night
[07:09] <SurfnKid> yeah
[07:09] <jayrod06> how many updates will there be june 1st
[07:10] <jayrod06> if ive been up to date the day before
[07:10] <Dawei> Troy_s: I've got what i got, and I have no hankering to go out to buy hardware because of an update deficiency. Somehow M$ can get it right =and Ubuntu got it right last time=... I didn't change the card, Ubuntu changed the playing field. So I don't go with the "nvidia's at fault, OS community's not at fault" thing - fault is irrelevant, results are the way we determine what succeeds.
[07:10] <intelikey> tty7 [root#~]  lilo -q
[07:10] <intelikey> Linux           *
[07:10] <dust_> hello. i feel like my cpu is running too hot, does anyone know what a safe cpu temp is?
[07:10] <nickrud> jayrod06, if you are going from breezy to dapper, hundreds of megabytes
[07:10] <intelikey> the map file is good.....   hmmmm a bug?
[07:10] <jayrod06> nah ive got dapper now
[07:10] <babo> how do I 'put' a directory in ftp ?
[07:10] <kestas> dust_: <60ish
[07:10] <spikeb> MS can get stuff right because they don't have philosophy guiding them, other than make money
[07:11] <dizy> d:
[07:11] <kestas> babo: man ftp
[07:11] <dust_> kestas: would 64-68 be acceptable?
[07:11] <babo> kestas: I've read it ...
[07:11] <Noah0504> Yeah...I'm guessing the RC of Dapper will automatically upgrade to Dapper Final?
[07:11] <nickrud> spikeb, no, they can make things work, beccause they don't have philosophy guiding them, other than make money
[07:11] <drumline_> It's going to be interesting...  running Linux Vmware with XP as a guest...   I've always done it the other way around.
[07:12] <nickrud> spikeb, work ne right often
[07:12] <spikeb> nickrud: well, yes, that is what i meant, heh
[07:12] <dust_> kestas: sorry i just say the <
[07:12] <dust_> saw
[07:12] <DarkED> hey
[07:12] <jayrod06> sorry guys but 2 days from now, ill be all about os x
[07:12] <Madpilot> Noah0504, yes
[07:12] <DarkED> could someone help me with a diversion problem?
[07:12] <DarkED> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14818
[07:12] <Noah0504> Good stuff.
[07:13] <intelikey> nickrud "they can make things work, beccause they don't have philosophy guiding them, other than make money"   <--- must be talking about M$ ?
[07:13] <DarkED> any help would be appreciated, I dont know how to delete the old driver's diversion so i can install the new driver
[07:13] <nickrud> intelikey, right in one
[07:13] <kestas> babo: oh a dir
[07:13] <sr71> What is Kalzuim
[07:13] <kestas> babo: no you cant do that
[07:13] <drumline_> jay: why is that?
[07:13] <jayrod06> macbook comes 2 days from now
[07:14] <drumline_> ahh...  nice
[07:14] <Amaranth> spikeb: me too
[07:14] <drumline_> joyrod06: what do you think of all those chaps pirating and hacking OSX and putting it on their own hardware?
[07:14] <NitroRebel> apt-get is the greatest thing. Ever.
[07:14] <jayrod06> well if they have the intelligence to do so then awesome
[07:15] <spikeb> aptitude is greater
[07:15] <GTar> Anyone help mounting a Windows drive over VPN?
[07:15] <jayrod06> but i probably pay higher costs for it
[07:15] <drumline_> GTar: windows share?
[07:15] <nickrud> DarkED, where did you get that deb?
[07:15] <jayrod06> windows xp < ubuntu < os x
[07:15] <drumline_> joyrod: well.. yeah you do pay higher costs...  But that all gets fed into the development of OSX, which you enjoy.
[07:15] <GTar> I think so, already connected to VPN using pptp-linux/pptpconfig
[07:15] <DarkED> argh
[07:15] <DarkED> stupid connection
[07:15] <GTar> Just need to mount
[07:16] <kestas> jayrod06: hahahah you own a MAC
[07:16] <kestas> :D
[07:16] <jayrod06> yea why is that funny?
[07:16] <jayrod06> mac's kick ass
[07:16] <drumline_> GTar: alright...   Open up Konquerer or your file explorer
[07:16] <NitroRebel> The OSX is a bad ass machine
[07:16] <GTar> k
[07:16] <dust_> does anyone know how to adjust the cpu fan settings?
[07:17] <nickrud> DarkED, because the version doesn't match anything from dapper or breezy that I can see
[07:17] <drumline_> Gtar: smb://IPADDRESS/
[07:17] <jayrod06> my opinion is that most people that run linux do so because they hate windows but don't have a mac
[07:17] <SurfnKid> dust what kind of pc u got
[07:17] <jayrod06> get a mac and you'll never leave os x
[07:17] <spikeb> heh
[07:17] <DarkED> ok sorry bout that lol
[07:17] <GTar> Ok, I don't have an IP address of the drive, got something like //drive/folder
[07:17] <DarkED> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14818
[07:17] <DarkED> how do i get rid of the old driver's diversion so i can install the new one?
[07:18] <kestas> they cost way too much, theyre impossible to upgrade, steve jobs is so full of shit with his benchmarks ( Core Duo is 5x faster than PowerPC, when it was PowerPC PowerPC was 5x faster than the P4.. but Core Duo simply isn't 25x faster than P4)
[07:18] <jayrod06> well that was dumb
[07:18] <SurfnKid> im using GKrellM but i havent seen any fan boost speed
[07:18] <dust_> SurfnKid: it's a toshiba satellite 5200
[07:18] <drumline_> MacOSX is a badass OS...   I know a guy with a G5 and it friggin screams
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> jayrod06: I actually wasn't a huge fan of OS X for me.  It's very very impressive, just not _me_.  Oh well.  Gnome suits me fine.
[07:18] <drumline_> kestas: that's why they moved to Intel.  duh!  :)
[07:18] <SurfnKid> go to the SPM and search for fan, there is a toshiba package for fan settings last i checked
[07:18] <nickrud> DarkED, you need an ubuntu compatible deb. On the face of it, that is not one
[07:18] <kestas> you have to buy all the software for them, and if you dont like to buy software you have to use so much OSS that it ends up as FreeBSD with an expensive interface
[07:18] <kestas> you have to buy the whole OS again every 6 months
[07:18] <intelikey> howto test whether lba32 is used on a disk or no ?
[07:18] <kestas> its insecure
[07:19] <drumline_> GTar: the //drive/ portion is the NetBIOS name...
[07:19] <kestas> Mac blows, OS X blows, I feel sorry for anyone who buys into the BS
[07:19] <jaime_> now i found the audio thing i was talking about later
[07:19] <SurfnKid> never tried OS X
[07:19] <SurfnKid> the name scares me
[07:20] <drumline_> GTar: you might be able to go into the network browsing portion of Konqueror...   at this point though, witchout the IP address, I can't be of much help...  I haven't done it without an IP before.
[07:20] <dust_> SurfnKid: yeah i found that and i can turn the fan on or off whenever i want but i want  to just set the fan to come on automatically at a lower tempature
[07:20] <intelikey> nobody    howto test whether lba32 is used on a disk or no ?
[07:20] <SurfnKid> and since I dont like McDonalds, Mac just reminds me of those burgers
[07:20] <Amaranth> intelikey: hdparm should tell you
[07:20] <nickrud> intelikey, sudo hdparm -I it's there
[07:20] <GTar> that's cool cheers for the info :D
[07:20] <lnostdal> Mac / OS X? no way .. ThinkPad + Ubuntu is the shit :] 
[07:20] <NitroRebel> Can anyone tell me what this is all about?
[07:20] <NitroRebel> joe@ubuntu:~$ sudo synaptic
[07:20] <NitroRebel> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 29 00:45:13 2006
[07:20] <jayrod06> how does os x blow
[07:20] <SurfnKid> dust ah, well there's a few more proggys there but i saw only 1 or 2 for toshiba
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> lnostdal: Agreed.  T43.
[07:20] <jayrod06> os x is actually unix, linux is just an imitation :)
[07:20] <SurfnKid> Red Hot Chilli Peppers is on Dali California, good song
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> NitroRebel: I don't know why that happens, but I do know that something involving the 'touch' command fixes it.
[07:21] <spikeb> OSX is not unix
[07:21] <Amaranth> jayrod06: uh
[07:21] <SurfnKid> http://www.1096qw.com/asx/nova969.asx for anyone who is interested
[07:21] <nickrud> intelikey, erm, under capabilities
[07:21] <spikeb> it's unix-like
[07:21] <jaime_> does anyone where to get mpg321 vorbis-tools
[07:21] <drumline_> gtar: welcome.  :)    once you know the IP, you can login how I showed you and then access your shares.
[07:21] <intelikey> Amaranth nickrud danke
[07:21] <dust_> os x blows because it is propreitary
[07:21] <SurfnKid> who owns OSX
[07:21] <SurfnKid> hey igor
[07:21] <Amaranth> Let's not randomly insult other OSes.
[07:21] <nickrud> jaime_, sudo apt-get install  mpg321 vorbis-tools
[07:21] <NitroRebel> Touch command?
[07:21] <drumline_> OSX is blood brothers with FreeBSD
[07:21] <dust_> and linux is great not because it outperforms osx but because it belongs to everyone that uses it
[07:21] <igorzolnikov> how i can share ssh?
[07:21] <SurfnKid> ah
[07:22] <drumline_> FreeBSD = Unix
[07:22] <nickrud> nonix4, let's give specific insults, they're more fun. But, sadly offtopic
[07:22] <igorzolnikov> how i can run sshd?
[07:22] <SurfnKid> dust thats right, everyone who cooperates not just in the US but all over the world
[07:22] <Amaranth> dust_: although linux does outperform OS X :P
[07:22] <nickrud> nonix4, sorry
[07:22] <jrsims> anyone here know how to point the nvidia driver installer to my kernel source tree?
[07:22] <mikomiko_> how can i get the firefox 1.5
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> NitroRebel: I don't know how to do it exactly, but 'man touch' might help you.
[07:22] <disinterested_pe> how do u extract a .tar file into an /opt folder?
[07:22] <NoUse> jrsims have you tried installing the drivers via synaptic
[07:22] <SurfnKid> anyone know what the error under the CPU state in GKrellM mean
[07:23] <dust_> yeah performance is good too!
[07:23] <spikeb> osx only really has two problems- the first is that apple forgot what user interface design was, and the second is xnu
[07:23] <jrsims> NoUse: I haven't. I don't think they're available on Synaptic for my GeForce 4
[07:23] <disinterested_pe> miko miko here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:23] <Amaranth> jrsims: they're probably already installed
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, shoot, we did it again.  Discussion of other OSs and lots of other crazy nonsense is welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic.  Support only here please.  (Maybe if I say it enough I'll stick to it myself, eh?)
[07:23] <Amaranth> jrsims: you want the nvidia-glx package
[07:23] <jaime_> its says Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied )
[07:23] <jrsims> Amaranth: aha
[07:24] <NoUse> !tell jrsims about nvidia
[07:24] <jaime_> how can i can i get permision
[07:24] <SurfnKid> jaime what are u doin
[07:24] <Amaranth> jaime_: sudo
[07:24] <SurfnKid> sudo su
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> disinterested_pe: You'll need sudo for one thing.  And I think it should be tar -x file.tar /opt/whatever.
[07:24] <Amaranth> SurfnKid: don't tell people to do that, it's a bad idea
[07:24] <dust_> i use a geforce 4 and i was able to get nvidia working using synaptic and some great wiki pages-- i forget what they are called but just search nvidia
[07:24] <SurfnKid> ok
[07:24] <DJ_Danni> essential-20060501 Where do that go?
[07:24] <disinterested_pe> ty tony
[07:24] <intelikey> nickrud   /dev/sda:
[07:24] <jaime_> then what do i do
[07:24] <intelikey>  HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Invalid argument
[07:25] <intelikey> that's what -I says
[07:25] <SurfnKid> just tried to help cuz thats how i got in :)
[07:25] <AlmtyBob> does anyone have an Asus A8n5x with 4 drives?
[07:25] <nickrud> intelikey, I don't think hdparm deals with scsi. I've never owned one to find out
[07:25] <dust_> so does anyone know how to set a cpu fan to come on at a lower temp? is that possible even?
[07:25] <DJ_Danni> Hey where do all the Decoders go to?
[07:25] <intelikey> another way ?
[07:26] <SurfnKid> no clue dust maybe look it up on ubutufurums.org
[07:26] <SurfnKid> forums sorry
[07:26] <jrsims> is there any benefit to recompiling my kernel with gcc 4 (as opposed to 3.0)?
[07:26] <jaime_> after sudo what do i do then
[07:26] <nickrud> intelikey, not a clue. I've heard of scuzzy nearly my entire computing lifetime, just never used it
[07:26] <Amaranth> jrsims: it won't compile right
[07:26] <dust_> good idea.
[07:26] <Amaranth> jrsims: that's what it uses gcc 3.4
[07:26] <jrsims> k
[07:26] <DJ_Danni> Hey Hey nickrud are you there?
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> dust_: Possible, absolutely.  Easy?  No idea.
[07:26] <intelikey> Amaranth another way to check for lba32 ?     scsi disk.  ?
[07:26] <nickrud> DJ_Danni, sure
[07:26] <Amaranth> jrsims: but it doesn't really make things faster
[07:26] <Amaranth> intelikey: no idea
[07:27] <SurfnKid> dust i got a lot of info there for my wlan0 card, sound, and a few other things
[07:27] <mikomiko_> is there an easy way to get the firefox
[07:27] <Amaranth> mikomiko_: you mean to get firefox 1.5 on breezy?
[07:27] <intelikey> k thanks any way
[07:27] <mikomiko_> instead of following all of these instructions
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> mikomiko_: 1.5 you mean?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVErsion
[07:27] <DJ_Danni> I was doenloading a Coders and where do they go mean where shut i Extart them?
[07:27] <jayrod06> guys say you have an 80 gig harddrive, how much would you give linux and how much would you give windows, keeping in mind that most games are used in windows
[07:27] <Amaranth> mikomiko_: that's the only way
[07:27] <NoUse> mikomiko_ you could wait for Dapper
[07:27] <Managu> intelikey: lba32 is an addressing scheme, not really an operating mode.  What is it you want to know about your drive?
[07:27] <Amaranth> mikomiko_: unless you upgrade to the dapper release candidate
[07:28] <nickrud> DJ_Danni, the best way to get those codecs for nsv is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-16ea04e7e1ecd06555912ba3f470b56563cbd85d
[07:28] <spikeb> jayrod06: i'd give each ten, and then share the rest of the drive between the two as fat32
[07:28] <igorzolnikov> how can i run sshd?
[07:28] <intelikey> Managu yes but if it's not lba and i select lba wont that pitch a fit ?
[07:28] <Amaranth> igorzolnikov: install the openssh-server package
[07:28] <DJ_Danni> i have them
[07:28] <Managu> intelikey:  select lba where?
[07:28] <NoUse> igorzolnikov apt-get install openssh-server
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> jayrod06: Downside of that is fat32 won't do permissions.
[07:28] <DJ_Danni> But where shut i Extart them?
[07:28] <Amaranth> igorzolnikov: it'll start the server once you've installed that then start it on every boot too
[07:28] <intelikey> Managu lilo
[07:28] <jrsims> ok, so after I have the nvidia glx packages installed, how do I make x use the driver?
[07:29] <intelikey> like make it not boot or something
[07:29] <Amaranth> jrsims: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:29] <jayrod06> ok rooting out fat 32
[07:29] <jrsims> Amaranth: command not found
[07:29] <jayrod06> 50/50?
[07:29] <nickrud> DJ_Danni, they will extracted automatically to /usr/lib/win32 if you do those two steps
[07:29] <Managu> intelikey: you're using lilo?  Ugh.  That said, LBA support is something your bios supports (or not).  Unless your HD is ancient, it has nothing to do with the HD (iirc)
[07:29] <Amaranth> jrsims: install the nvidia-xconfig package
[07:29] <NoUse> jrsims it tells you what to do on the wiki page
[07:30] <SurfnKid> anyone gone to see the Da Ubuntu Code yet?
[07:30] <NoUse> Amaranth there is no such package
[07:30] <Amaranth> oh :P
[07:30] <jrsims> Amaranth: I can't seem to find that specific package in synaptic
[07:30] <intelikey> Managu well scsi hdd's (the ones i've had) can be lowlevel formated with or without lba   and i don't know which this is....
[07:31] <NoUse> jrsims the wiki page tells you what to do
[07:31] <intelikey> Managu you don't like lilo ?
[07:31] <jrsims> Amaranth: nm. It's "nvidia-glx-config"
[07:31] <nickrud> jrsims, the easy way for nvidia: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx ; then gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and change nv to nvidia under Section "Device" ; then log out and hit clt-alt-backspace
[07:31] <Managu> intelikey: GRUB is default for Ubuntu.  So the fact you're using lilo makes me wonder what's up
[07:31] <Amaranth> ah
[07:32] <intelikey> Managu you wonder what's up if anything is 'non-default' do you ?
[07:32] <jrsims> sweet. gonna restart x and see what happens. thanks for the help
[07:32] <mikomiko_> I am trying to use the Quick and Dirty way to install the firefox
[07:32] <mikomiko_> but i am being told that i dont have permission to install in /home
[07:32] <mikomiko_> how do i do it
[07:32] <hallo> hallo
[07:32] <Managu> intelikey: Not really looking to pick a fight here.
[07:33] <nickrud> mikomiko_, there is no quick and easy way to integrate firefox into ubuntu, use the wiki and follow it carefully
[07:33] <nickrud> !ff1.5
[07:33] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:33] <SurfnKid> Im just waiting for ubuntu to crash or something so I can do another install and do this whole wlan0 thing again
[07:33] <spikeb> heh good luck with that SurfnKid
[07:33] <jaime_> hey surfinkid
[07:33] <intelikey> SurfnKid best way to crash it is dist-upgrades
[07:33] <mikomiko_> I am using it
[07:33] <spikeb> SurfnKid: you could just do the install again :)
[07:33] <mikomiko_> that page has this section Installing Firefox quick and dirty
[07:34] <DarkED> ok, let me try this again
[07:34] <DarkED> stupid internet
[07:34] <intelikey> well maybe not the best.  but a good way.  :)
[07:34] <DarkED> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14818
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: 'cause lot's of things are good?  I don't use everything, but I'm pretty happy w/ Ubuntu's picks.  Notably exception being Thunderbird vs. Evolution.  (Waiting for Beagle TB support...)
[07:34] <DarkED> im trying to install a new ati prop driver over the old one
[07:34] <DarkED> how do i delete diversions?
[07:34] <SurfnKid> spikeb not that i will do it but if i tpe dist-upgrades what would that do
[07:34] <hallo> exit
[07:35] <nickrud> mikomiko_, weren't there enough disclaimers there for you?
[07:35] <spikeb> SurfnKid: dist-upgrade will remove and add additional packages required by upgrades, and sometimes break crap
[07:35] <SurfnKid> ah
[07:35] <SurfnKid> i liked the last part you said
[07:35] <SurfnKid> i wish XP had a break crap command
[07:36] <rexykik> SurfnKid: just move your mouse
[07:36] <SurfnKid> lol
[07:36] <nickrud> DarkED, in that case, try dpkg -r xorg-driver-fglrx first
[07:37] <kestas> rexykik: hmm Im moving my mouse, it's not breaking :)
[07:37] <rexykik> I want to run synergy after X starts for my user. Synergy is a program that allows you to do dual monitor heads with two computers over ethernet. What is the best way to do this?
[07:37] <spikeb> lol
[07:37] <rexykik> kestas: move it faster
[07:37] <spikeb> "windows has detected that you have moved your mouse too fast. please reboot"
[07:37] <intelikey> tonyyarusso sure.  i have nothing against the "package selections" per'se   but one good example is the default sudo setup.   and the default irssi/xchat   the two togather make the system as weak as the user password.  you irc we all see your user name and know that sudo is root access for free and if you have used sudo in the last few minutes we don't even need your password, just an exploit.... hehhe or ssh even in some 
[07:37] <AlmtyBob> how can I get a rough description of a hard drive from the console?
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> kestas: And click.
[07:38] <kestas> hmm Im moving it and clicking, still nothing's happening :)
[07:38] <AlmtyBob> a serial number/manufcaturer/model number would be nice, any of them that is
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: What don't you like about the sudo setup?
[07:38] <kestas> rexykik: add it to the session startup
[07:38] <mikomiko_> how do i change directory to Desktop
[07:38] <kestas> rexykik: System>Preferences>Session (or something)
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Oh, I see.
[07:38] <intelikey> does that not explain it ^ ?
[07:38] <intelikey> yeah...
[07:38] <NoUse> mikomiko_ cd Desktop
[07:38] <nickrud> mikomiko_, cd ~/Desktop
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Sorry, read twice.  What would you suggest instead?
[07:39] <kholerabbi> I have an NTFS partition, how do I access it on ubuntu?
[07:39] <rexykik> kestas...i don't mean just for kde/gnome, i mean for any desktop environment
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> !ntfs
[07:39] <ubotu> ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe.
[07:39] <NoUse> !tell kholerabbi about ntfs
[07:39] <spikeb> turn off sudo keeping the password then
[07:39] <DarkED_> nickrud: it wont lemme do that either
[07:39] <NoUse> kholerabbi read only is supported
[07:39] <DarkED_> gives the same divert error
[07:39] <DarkED_> i need to delete the diversion i think
[07:39] <kestas> rexykik: depends how your X session is started; gdm, xinit?
[07:39] <rexykik> kdm at the moment
[07:39] <nickrud> DarkED, try sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:40] <SurfnKid> i wouldnt mount ntfs at all, ill just leave it alone
[07:40] <rexykik> or whatever kubuntu comes with default
[07:40] <kholerabbi> OK, thanks, so I can copy them across though? Thats all I need.
[07:40] <NoUse> SurfnKid why?
[07:40] <nickrud> DarkED, you got that deb from where, anyway
[07:40] <SurfnKid> unless there havent been any issues
[07:40] <drumline_> ubotu: I think there's data on that in the mount man page
[07:40] <ubotu> drumline_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:40] <rexykik> intelikey: when I install I just do a sudo passwd, set a password, and then remove everyone from the sudo group
[07:40] <kestas> rexykik: then I think you'll have to add stuff for each wm, or come up with some messy hack
[07:40] <rexykik> messy hack it is!
[07:40] <intelikey> well,  editing sudo and setting up a special user for admin  but allowing the default user sudo rights to frequent apps like maybe  mount  for one.   you know things that you are always typing  sudo blah.  set it up so you can blah but not  bash  or things like that.
[07:40] <nickrud> DarkED, I've never had to mess with diversions in properly built packages
[07:40] <AlmtyBob> heh the thing I don't like about sudo is I end up playing simon says all the goddamned time.  "/etc/init.d/ssh restart" err... "SIMONSAYS /etc/init.d/ssh restart"
[07:41] <drumline_> ubotu: don't give me that...  turn that off.
[07:41] <ubotu> drumline_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:41] <SurfnKid> NoUse if Im dual booting would that mess up the partiton or just means it would mount it in ubuntu?
[07:41] <NoUse> drumline_ ubotu is a bot
[07:41] <NoUse> SurfnKid it just mounts it read-only, so it can't change anything
[07:41] <drumline_> I don't take lip from anyone... especially a bot
[07:41] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[07:41] <drumline_> :)
[07:41] <SurfnKid> maybe ill try that JIC
[07:41] <kestas> rexykik: you could have a cronscript check whether it's running, and whether you're logged in, every minute, and if you're logged in and it's not running it'll run it
[07:42] <nickrud> drumline_, you should have heard ubotu before he got cleaned up :)
[07:42] <drumline_> nickrud: :)  lewd?
[07:42] <peruano> hi guys, i tried to mount my win partition, but i can't, maybe i doing it wrong,  mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /media/win  after that, i got this message , win does not exist, somebody could help me
[07:42] <evi|one__> Hello. Is there any ETA for Dapper Drake?
[07:42] <rexykik> kestas: i was thinking that
[07:42] <jrsims> ok, so it looks like the drivers installed, but I can't see GDM.
[07:42] <Hobbsee> evi|one__: june 1
[07:42] <nickrud> drumline_, no, just totally insulting. talk about llipp...
[07:42] <NoUse> peruano sudo mkdir /media/win
[07:42] <kholerabbi> That ntfs wiki is for pre-ubuntu5.1 releases, but I have ubuntu 5.1 so how do I do It?
[07:42] <jrsims> anyone know how I can edit my nvidia setup?
[07:42] <rexykik> i don't know my cron well, but I guess everyone needs to learn sometime
[07:43] <benxb> im tryin to hardwire my xbox to my pc and then use wireless from my pc to access the internet. ive tryed everything. can anyone help?
[07:43] <evi|one__> Hobbsee, thanks.
[07:43] <NoUse> kholerabbi same way
[07:43] <nickrud> kholerabbi, it's correct for 5.10
[07:43] <rexykik> benxb: trying to cheat in Halo?
[07:43] <AlmtyBob> sure benxb, go buy an xbox wireless bridge 8)
[07:43] <drumline_> nickrud: You hear about that guy from Yuma, who told an elephant joke to a Puma?  Now his skeleton lies under hot western skies.  Cause the Puma had no sense of huma.
[07:43] <SurfnKid> so how do I mount it NoUse
[07:43] <kestas> benxb: bridge the connections, it's not hard
[07:43] <AlmtyBob> oh yah, you are a halo cheat huh? f-that
[07:43] <NoUse> !tell SurfnKid about ntfs
[07:43] <nickrud> drumline_, on that one I gotta call it a night :)
[07:43] <SurfnKid> thx
[07:44] <drumline_> nickrud: :)  peace bro
[07:44] <benxb> no, i want my xbox in my room (far away from the router) and dont want to hardwire
[07:44] <peruano> thanks NoUse
[07:44] <jrsims> <-- how to edit nvidia display modes?
[07:44] <kholerabbi> But it says it's tons easier for breezy?
[07:44] <benxb> when i setup a bridge i still cant access live or even ftp into my xbox
[07:44] <NoUse> !tell jrsims about xorg
[07:44] <kholerabbi> "With the release of Breezy Badger (Ubuntu 5.10), this step should be almost automatic."??
[07:45] <jrsims> NoUse: it's not telling me anything
[07:45] <NoUse> !xor
[07:45] <ubotu> NoUse: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:45] <NoUse> !xorg
[07:45] <ubotu> I heard xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[07:45] <NoUse> jrsims ^^
[07:45] <jrsims> k
[07:46] <Schalken> I am running Dapper Beta right now. Do I have to download the CD to upgrade to the stable release?
[07:46] <AlmtyBob> is there a boot log I can look at to see why mounting filesystems failed?
[07:46] <benxb> i have followed this guide http://www.sorgonet.com/network/advancedwirelesswithlinux/ and am not able to ping the xbox, access live, or even access the internet from my pc. i have also tried using firestarters internet connection sharing
[07:46] <NoUse> Schalken no
[07:46] <Madpilot> Schalken, no
[07:47] <SurfnKid> gonna leave the ntfs issue for maybe tomorrow to read
[07:47] <SurfnKid> Im still having a few issues with this Gkrellm that i want to fix first
[07:47] <Schalken> So Synaptic's updating will upgrade to the stable for me?
[07:47] <Madpilot> yes
[07:47] <SurfnKid> !tell Surfnkid about Gkrellm
[07:47] <Schalken> awesome!
[07:48] <SurfnKid> someone smack the bot :P
[07:48] <SurfnKid> Michael Jackson style
[07:48] <Madpilot> was the bot impolite to you, SurfnKid? ;)
[07:48] <SurfnKid> hehe nah
[07:49] <SurfnKid> but i got nothing back from gkrellm
[07:49] <Madpilot> contrary to popular belief, the bot doesn't actually know *everything*. Just most things.
[07:49] <benxb> anyone have any experience setting up a bridge?
[07:49] <disinterested_pe> whoooohooo i got firefox 1.5 installed
[07:49] <Madpilot> !info gkrellm
[07:49] <ubotu> gkrellm: (multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] ), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.2.7-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 388 kB, Installed size: 956 kB
[07:50] <Schalken> what is the linux-images-????-?-??-amd64-generic package do?
[07:50] <Schalken> image*
[07:50] <Zen> how might I get fglrx working on AMD64 with dapper?  (#ubuntu+1 is totally dead atm)
[07:50] <monsterism> hi, does anyone know which repo zenity is in?
[07:50] <jhenn> how can i tell what is in multiverse? is there a online package database that can show me?
[07:50] <Ganryu> hi, when i try to fresh install ubuntu 6.06rc amd64 it gets pretty much to the end and then locks up everytime (i think it's just before grub install and maybe it's "configuring en-locales-base")
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> jhenn: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:51] <Schalken> monsterisn, just enable all of them and look for it
[07:51] <hyphenated> Ganryu: #ubuntu+1
[07:51] <disinterested_pe> did u search for it in synaptic jhenn?
[07:51] <SurfnKid> it monitors the cpu temp but i goot an error that says error missing proc file, see info tag
[07:51] <NitroRebel> I lost my right-click menu, XUbuntu Dapper. Anyone know what to do?
[07:51] <nickrud> jhenn, aptitude search ~smultiverse
[07:51] <Ganryu> sorry and ty hyphen
[07:51] <intelikey> tonyyarusso dialup   i have a few special settings in there depending on location and don't want to allow anyone to mess with them  so the script is root only write access.  user exec  thus it does an automatic test for location and dilas in from there.
[07:52] <richard> morning
[07:52] <SurfnKid> evening
[07:52] <intelikey> oops  and some times i don't /msg  either....
[07:52] <SurfnKid> so not sure how to fix that
[07:52] <Managu> benxb: just looking at that howto you linked raises some thoughts for me
[07:52] <richard> anyone know what they are doin with linux ...... ive having issues with access privilages
[07:52] <jhenn> nickrud: nothing happened
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Ah, cool.  (auto-testing location especially so...would like to see that script)
[07:52] <Managu> benxb: I remember trying to set up a wireless bridge before, and realizing that it wasn't possible with my particular brand of wireless card.
[07:53] <jaime> hey can anybody help me
[07:53] <nickrud> jhenn, I had my multiverse apps listed, I guess you don't have multiverse enabled
[07:53] <intelikey> SurfnKid whys that ?
[07:53] <kayde> i need help with gimpshop installation
[07:53] <Managu> benxb: that article looks like it references some pretty specific drivers; most linux wireless drivers don't support master mode.  Does yours?
[07:53] <richard> Im trying to mount a hard drive NTFS windows xp install
[07:53] <intelikey> richard see the wiki
[07:53] <jhenn> nickrud: no i don't want it enabled
[07:54] <intelikey> !ntfs
[07:54] <ubotu> ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe.
[07:54] <Ademan> does anyone know why the shutdown and restart buttons might have magically dissapeared from the "logout" screen?
[07:54] <SurfnKid> intelikey i wont suggest to use the sudo command, it might do harm to someone's setup
[07:54] <jaime> how can i install the plugins for my toten movie player
[07:54] <kayde> dose anyone know which file type of the new gimp i should download?
[07:54] <Managu> SurfnKid: you were suggesting "sudo su" before, which might be going just a bit far.
[07:55] <SurfnKid> exactly managu
[07:55] <SurfnKid> :)
[07:55] <benxb> i dont even know what master mode is, im using the d-link g520 with an atheros chipset
[07:55] <intelikey> SurfnKid that was the topic.  setting up sudo so that users can do things like that script and not be able to change things.   like sudo was designed for.
[07:55] <kayde> ...?
[07:55] <hyphenated> kayde: what's wrong with the version available via apt-get?
[07:55] <benxb> is there another way to share the internet connection other than using a bridge
[07:55] <NitroRebel> I lost my right-click menu, XUbuntu Dapper. Anyone know what to do?
[07:55] <SurfnKid> right
[07:55] <kayde> hyphenated, what is that?
[07:55] <nickrud> jhenn, for the purposes of finding out what's in multiverse, it's easiest to enable it's repos, and then search. Otherwise, you'd have to look in each of the Packages.gz for release, release-security, release-updates
[07:56] <hyphenated> kayde: it's the way things are usually installed on ubuntu
[07:56] <kayde> hyphenated, im a linux NEWB!
[07:56] <SurfnKid> ok no more about superdooper superuser :P
[07:56] <kayde> hyphenated, um... ok,...
[07:56] <hyphenated> ok then you want synaptics instead of apt-get :-)
[07:56] <monsterism> schalken, thanks, I must have typed it wrong looking for zenity
[07:56] <shriphani> ok guys another question
[07:56] <shriphani> lol
[07:56] <intelikey> here is a sudoers line for you to think about....   not that it is really a good example.  but it is an example; ALL ALL = NOPASSWD: /bin/mount /disks/* ,/bin/umount /disks/*
[07:56] <AlmtyBob> can I somehow mount two drives to the same directory without LVM?
[07:57] <kayde> hyphenated, umm...apt get is root ?
[07:57] <SurfnKid> ok ill be back in a bit
[07:57] <shriphani> kayde apt-get should be available to whoever is listed in /etc/sudoers
[07:57] <Managu> benxb: I think the real answer to your question is "doing things the way that howto suggest (probably) won't work for you."  What is it you want to accomplish?
[07:57] <hyphenated> kayde: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware .. skip down to the bit where it says "Installing a package"
[07:58] <intelikey> AlmtyBob to a subdir   but if you mount them togather you will hide one of them  iirc
[07:59] <AlmtyBob> ah ok thanks
[07:59] <prkchp> i was wondering if someone could help me with ximian evolution.  i'm running ubuntu.  my problem is that my evolution client has smtp authorization and i've configured it and the password correctly for my web/email hosting.  however for some strange reason i cannot resolve the server when attempting a smtp mail send.  one package was removed libgpg-error0 which i was able to fix by reinstalling that and gnome and ubuntu though i
[07:59] <AlmtyBob> can you change existing drives to LVM without losing data?
[07:59] <prkchp> 'm not sure if that had any effect on evolution at all.  even thunderbird does not work for me.  can anyone lend a hand ?
[07:59] <AlmtyBob> prkchp: port 25 is blocked outbound on a lot of ISPs
[07:59] <drumline_> Almty: you have backups?
[07:59] <AlmtyBob> yes
[08:00] <mikomiko_> how do i protect a file or folder in my desktop from being deleted
[08:00] <prkchp> Almty, ok thanks.  Almty, however i seem to be able to use outlook on my windows box.  why would my linux box be jailed ?
[08:00] <AlmtyBob> mikomiko_: chmod a-o filename
[08:00] <benxb> my xbox is right next to my pc (both of which are far away from the wireless router) and i want to be able to access xbox live and be able to ftp into my xbox. i would like to connect the xbox to the pc and use the pc's wireless connection to access the internet
[08:00] <mikomiko_> in terminal?
[08:00] <kayde> shriphani, ...?
[08:00] <kayde> hyphenated, ok ty
[08:00] <AlmtyBob> errr, chmod a-w filename
[08:00] <AlmtyBob> yes, console
[08:01] <intelikey> AlmtyBob i think so.....   don't try it cause i said that tho...  i don't use lvm         example of stacking disks.  mount  dev/hda1 /    dev/hda5 /usr    dev/hda6 /usr/local   and so on....  or even  /var      and /boot      but you get the idea.
[08:01] <AlmtyBob> mikomiko_: if you try to delete it will prompt you if you really want to delete it
[08:01] <mikomiko_> is it a-o or a-w
[08:01] <Managu> benxb: trivial things first: Do you have the right cable?  If you're trying to connect the xbox ethernet port to the pc ethernet port, a standard network cable won't work.  You need a "crossover" cable.
[08:01] <AlmtyBob> a-w
[08:02] <AlmtyBob> mikomiko_: if you REALLY don't want to delete it you can also "chown root filename"
[08:02] <benxb> i have both
[08:02] <mikomiko_> is there a way to password protect it before it can be deleted
[08:02] <AlmtyBob> so it won't even prompt you
[08:02] <NitroRebel> I lost my right-click menu, XUbuntu Dapper. Anyone know what to do?
[08:02] <AlmtyBob> chown root filename will
[08:02] <benxb> however it did work like that when using windows
[08:02] <NitroRebel> I'm completely lost.
[08:02] <AlmtyBob> you'll have to sudo to delete it
[08:02] <AlmtyBob> and even then it will prompt you
[08:02] <AlmtyBob> intelikey: I have a server with 4 hard drives, 3 hold the data I'm serving, I'd like them all in /srv.  Is LVM what I want?
[08:02] <mikomiko_> i installed my firefox in opt folder in my desktop
[08:03] <mikomiko_> i dont want to accidentally delete it
[08:03] <intelikey> chattr
[08:03] <mikomiko_> whats the safest way to protect it
[08:03] <shriphani> intelikey, tell me why xemacs ./config doesnt create a f00ken makefile
[08:03] <intelikey> AlmtyBob kewl.      this box has 8 drives in it atm
[08:03] <AlmtyBob> intelikey: was that chattr at me?
[08:03] <AlmtyBob> mikomiko_: is this your machine?
[08:03] <AlmtyBob> you have root access?
[08:04] <mikomiko_> Yes
[08:04] <cilkay> AlmtyBob: you'd better have excellent backups. That sort of configuration actually reduced MTBF.
[08:04] <intelikey> AlmtyBob it's one way to make files harder to rm
[08:04] <mikomiko_> this is my computer, am new to linux
[08:04] <Managu> benxb: how do you have the computer-xbox connection setup under windows?
[08:04] <cilkay> AlmtyBob: i.e. a filesystem spanning three drives
[08:04] <AlmtyBob> cilkay: LVM causes it to die quicker?
[08:04] <AlmtyBob> or just having 3 drives period?
[08:04] <Managu> benxb: network bridge, or internet connection sharing?  Standard or Crossover cable?
[08:04] <cilkay> AlmtyBob: not lvm, 3 drives
[08:04] <benxb> network bridge using a standard cable
[08:05] <AlmtyBob> mikomiko_: best solution is probably to uninstall and reinstall with apt-get
[08:05] <AlmtyBob> cilkay: why is that?
[08:05] <mikomiko_> hell no
[08:05] <richard> ok - i followed instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:05] <mikomiko_> lol
[08:05] <mikomiko_> it took me forever to put it where it is now
[08:05] <cilkay> AlmtyBob: think about it... lose one drive and you're toast
[08:05] <richard> however i cannot access the media folder
[08:05] <AlmtyBob> the other three drives only have movies and such
[08:05] <AlmtyBob> cilkay: it's not RAID or anything
[08:05] <AlmtyBob> cilkay: it's just a drive on /srv1, /srv2, and /srv3
[08:05] <drumline_> it's a JBOD?
[08:05] <AlmtyBob> not even jbod
[08:05] <AlmtyBob> they all have different mount points
[08:06] <cilkay> AlmtyBob: you want one filesystem to span them all?
[08:06] <cilkay> That's what I understood.
[08:06] <SurfnKid> Iinfo hysteresis
[08:06] <intelikey> richard in a terminal do a   grep -ie 'ntfs' /etc/fstab     please.
[08:06] <AlmtyBob> cilkay: err yah KINDA, I don't want them RAIDed, I was just hoping I could somehow get them to all mount in the same place
[08:06] <AlmtyBob> and now that I type that out it makes no goddamned sense
[08:06] <cilkay> no, it doesn't :)
[08:06] <SurfnKid> !hysteresis
[08:06] <ubotu> SurfnKid: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:06] <cilkay> AlmtyBob: actually... there is a way
[08:06] <intelikey> richard and show us what it says.
[08:06] <AlmtyBob> since the machine wouldn't know what drive to write to when I copied smth
[08:06] <SurfnKid> anyone know what that means? hysteresis
[08:07] <AlmtyBob> hysteria?
[08:07] <cilkay> AlmtyBob: you can do an overlay filesystem
[08:07] <AlmtyBob> and btw, NEVER EVER buy an asus a8n5x for a server or a machine with more than 1 hard drive
[08:07] <SurfnKid> AlmtyBob thats what Im getting now :P
[08:07] <kayde> i need help with: kayde@ubuntu:~$ apt-get install gimp-2.2.11.tar.gz
[08:07] <kayde> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied )
[08:07] <kayde> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[08:07] <richard> it doesnt come up with anything
[08:07] <AlmtyBob> kayde: sudo apt-get install...etc
[08:07] <Amaranth> kayde: gimp is already installed
[08:08] <AlmtyBob> or that
[08:08] <richard> is grep on its own line?
[08:08] <cilkay> AlmtyBob: if you just did a conventional mount, the last mounted filesystem is the one you'd see. With an overlay fs, you could see all three.
[08:08] <Madpilot> kayde, you can't apt-get from tar.gz files
[08:08] <intelikey> richard hmmm then something must have went wrong went wrong went wrong.
[08:08] <Managu> benxb: well, I appear to just be muddying the water then.  I don't know anything about bridging under linux -- maybe you can get it to work for you.  I'll suggest using tcpdump to try to see where the packets start (certainly the xbox does a dhcp exchange on startup that you could try to follow).
[08:08] <Madpilot> !info gimp
[08:08] <ubotu> gimp: (The GNU Image Manipulation Program), section graphics, is optional. Version: 2.2.8-2ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 2739 kB, Installed size: 7736 kB
[08:08] <Amaranth> kayde: in Applications->Graphics
[08:08] <kayde> Madpilot, umm... how do i then?
[08:08] <intelikey> richard no one line.  one commad
[08:08] <drumline_> kayde: do you have other package installers open?
[08:08] <Madpilot> kayde, GIMP is already installed...
[08:08] <AlmtyBob> cilkay: how does it decide where to write new files? like if they're all mounted to /srv, what happens when I "echo 'blah' > /srv/test"?
[08:08] <drumline_> kayde: such as synaptic or adept?
[08:08] <intelikey> richard " grep -ie 'ntfs' /etc/fstab "
[08:08] <benxb> well thanks for your help anyhow, ill just have to keep tryin :)
[08:09] <kayde> Madpilot, the older version...i need to instaall the new one
[08:09] <cilkay> AlmtyBob: I've only read about it, never did it. Don't know.
[08:09] <Amaranth> drumline_: that's not it, (s)he wasn't using sudo
[08:09] <Amaranth> kayde: what do you need that's only in the new version?
[08:09] <Amaranth> !info gimp dapper
[08:09] <AlmtyBob> thanks cilkay, I'll google
[08:09] <Madpilot> kayde, Dapper has 2.2.11 in it
[08:09] <ubotu> gimp: (The GNU Image Manipulation Program), section graphics, is optional. Version: 2.2.11-1ubuntu3 (dapper), Packaged size: 2712 kB, Installed size: 7648 kB
[08:09] <drumline_> ahh
[08:09] <kayde> drumline_, err. ? i have synamptic...
[08:09] <drumline_> kayde: cool... it's better than adept.
[08:09] <kayde> Madpilot, dapper is?
[08:09] <cilkay> AlmtyBob: you're welcome.
[08:09] <Madpilot> Amaranth, no, kayde was trying to apt-get a tar.gz file
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth: (You aware you still have that @ ?)
[08:10] <Madpilot> kayde, next version of Ubuntu, due out June 1st
[08:10] <hyphenated> how stupid would it be to download the -rc ISO today and rsync it on release day?
[08:10] <cilkay> Anyone have a preference of OpenVZ vs. LinuxVserver and why?
[08:10] <richard> /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[08:10] <drumline_> Has anyone connected to a Sonicwall via VPN on Ubuntu?
[08:10] <kayde> Madpilot, iknow YAY!!!
[08:10] <root> ok, this nvidia driver is a real hassle. all I get is blank screen now, even though I'm only saying 1280x1024 at 60hz. What are my options at this point? All I get is blank screen.
[08:10] <Amaranth> hyphenated: you can upgrade from the rc to the final version
[08:10] <kayde> Madpilot, ive orderd a copy
[08:10] <Amaranth> hyphenated: when synaptic, adept, apt-get, etc
[08:10] <intelikey> richard ok and       " mount | grep -ie 'ntfs' "
[08:10] <Madpilot> kayde, cool. You can upgrade your current Ubuntu install in place, too
[08:11] <hyphenated> Amaranth: sure. I could do that from breezy too
[08:11] <kayde> Madpilot, so, how do i get the new gimp/./..
[08:11] <Amaranth> hyphenated: yeah
[08:11] <Amaranth> kayde: upgrade to dapper
[08:11] <kayde> Madpilot, i dont know what dapper is...
[08:11] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell kayde about upgrade
[08:11] <AlmtyBob> anyone have any experience upgrading MySQL 4 to 5 on ubuntu? I got a mythtv setup I don't want to lose so I'm kinda paranoid
[08:11] <theshibboleth> I'm trying to get everything set to upgrade, but when I follow the instructions for upgradeing to the release candidate I get this error which I have posted at the pastebin - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14822
[08:11] <PyroMithrandir> hey guys, I'm helping someone partition his drive to put windows on it, and I've set up in fdisk for /dev/hda3 to be his fat32 partition, but when he tried to mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/hda3 it says that /dev/hda3 doesn't exist. anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[08:11] <Madpilot> kayde, Ubuntu 6.06 is codenamed Dapper; it's the one due out 1st of June...
[08:11] <AlmtyBob> but stupid MySQL 4 is missing a lot of important featuers
[08:12] <drumline_> Pyro: hda3 exists, you've committed the changes with the partition editor?
[08:12] <kayde> Madpilot, yea, but its not the first...and it takes like...2 weeks for the cd to come
[08:12] <PyroMithrandir> yep
[08:12] <drumline_> Pyro: hmm...  is there a graphical partitioner in Ubuntu?
[08:13] <kayde> Madpilot, i need it now, ive downloaded it but i dont know how to install...
[08:13] <Madpilot> kayde, more than two weeks. But you can upgrade an existing Ubuntu install to the newest version
[08:13] <PyroMithrandir> drumline_, I think so, but I've never used one
[08:13] <kayde> Madpilot, over the intrnet?
[08:13] <Managu> PyroMithrandir: this may be ancient lore -- but sometimes you need to reboot after partitioning
[08:13] <richard> bash: mount | grep -ie 'ntfs': command not found
[08:13] <Madpilot> kayde, yes
[08:13] <Madpilot> kayde, see the PM from ubotu
[08:13] <PyroMithrandir> Managu, okay, I'll have him try that
[08:13] <richard> what did i do wrong?
[08:13] <theshibboleth> any ideas about my upgrade problem?
[08:13] <richard> bash: mount | grep -ie 'ntfs': command not found
[08:13] <kayde> Madpilot, yes. but my internets not very good...
[08:14] <kayde> Madpilot, im not downloading anything bigger thaan 20meg
[08:14] <drumline_> reboot after partitioning...    BLOODY MURDER!!
[08:14] <Managu> richard: you're mangling that somehow.  does it say "mount: command not found"?
[08:14] <Madpilot> kayde, that'll be a problem, then.
[08:14] <AlmtyBob> cilkay: could I just mount my drives somewhere else and then make /srv/ nothing more than a bunch of links? and will links like that work with samba?
[08:14] <intelikey> richard   remove the  dubble quotes and try it.
[08:14] <richard> ok how should i put the command in - i will try again
[08:14] <richard> k
[08:14] <kayde> Madpilot, yes
[08:15] <fourat> since apt-get upgrade, i have to 'alsaconf' my soundcard on each reboot to get my soundcard working, how to solve this issue ?
[08:15] <Managu> drumline_: ehh?
[08:15] <kayde> Madpilot, so, is there a way of installing it1?
[08:16] <intelikey> when he quoted it bash took it as one file name....  i.e. mount\ \|\ grep\ -ie\ 'ntfs'    <--- of course that command is not found.
[08:16] <Madpilot> kayde, it probably needs compiling, which is not the simplest procedure
[08:16] <kayde> Madpilot, all i want to do is INSTALL it, this linux is geting annoying :(
[08:16] <kayde> Madpilot, ive 'unzipped" it
[08:16] <cilkay> AlmtyBob: you could use symlinks. Should work with SAMBA but I haven't used SAMBA in a long time. My preferred networking tool between Windows and Linux these days is ssh/scp :) I don't use Windows very much these days.
[08:16] <kayde> Madpilot, decompressed
[08:17] <Managu> kayde: the tar.gz file you have is probably a source file.  And if you're running Ubuntu, that means you'll need to install a build environment first, and go through all the hassle of compiling gimp from source and installing.  BTW, that build environment is about 100mb.
[08:17] <Madpilot> kayde, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[08:17] <Managu> kayde: alternately, you can just take the hit and download/install the gimp packages
[08:17] <drumline_> Kayde<
[08:17] <kayde> yea?
[08:17] <drumline_> Kayde: i think you can sign up for free cd-roms to be sent to you
[08:17] <drumline_> Is that still current folks?
[08:17] <richard> with ntfs - opening files read only - can you rename it and save it on another drive in different format?
[08:18] <Managu> richard: yup
[08:18] <drumline_> richard: sure
[08:18] <Madpilot> drumline_, yes, and I think kayde already has
[08:18] <richard> fantastic
[08:18] <kayde> drumline_, ??
[08:18] <Amaranth> it can take up to 4 months
[08:18] <drumline_> Richard: And there's experimental support for writing to the drive, but you risk screwing your FS...  :)
[08:18] <AlmtyBob> sorry for being a n00b, but is it normal to have 6 processes of apache2 running in linux (all with the same arguments "-k start -DSSL")?
[08:18] <drumline_> oh hell no... .
[08:18] <Amaranth> i didn't get my hoary cds until about 2 months before breezy came out
[08:18] <drumline_> Just spend the 2.95 at osdisc
[08:18] <cilkay> AlmtyBob: yes
[08:18] <kayde> WHY CANT IT BE EASY!!!!!!!????? :(!!!!
[08:18] <AlmtyBob> ah ok good 8)
[08:18] <Corey> Hi guys
[08:19] <cilkay> kayde: because you're a MORON
[08:19] <kayde> sON Of A LKJBHJLBH
[08:19] <fourat> found it, should modprobe sound, put it in /etc/modules
[08:19] <Corey> I would like to know how to get all the microsoft fonts on ubuntu
[08:19] <Managu> kayde: it is easy.  It just requires an internet connection.
[08:19] <kayde> linux drivees me nNUTSS
[08:19] <Madpilot> kayde, cool it.
[08:19] <drumline_> kayde: because you need to download a large CD-ROM's worth of data...   it is easy.  You just need the full disk
[08:19] <etement> so far I've had a good expeirience, however anybody care to explain why sound is handled weird?
[08:19] <intelikey> richard did you get it ?
[08:19] <maikol> he
[08:19] <maikol> y
[08:19] <etement> ie can't skype + music at same time
[08:19] <richard> dammit .... I still cant access my drive
[08:19] <richard> NTFS drive
[08:19] <kayde> Stuuff this, im geting an easier operating syst...
[08:19] <Corey> How do you get m$ fonts on ubuntu ?
[08:20] <Corey> Cause the linux fonts are bad :(
[08:20] <Managu> kayde: best of luck.  Better OS in less than 20mb... fun!
[08:20] <intelikey> richard i never did see the output of  mount | grep -ie 'ntfs'
[08:20] <Corey> fire firefox they are bad..
[08:20] <richard> sorry i got kicked a few moments ago
[08:20] <holycow> richard, if its a separate drive, buy a usb cradle and plug it in.  voila.
[08:20] <cilkay> Corey: I saw something about that at http://en.opensuse.org/
[08:20] <drumline_> Kayde: Wait a few days and when 6.06 is released, order a copy to be shipped to you for $2.95 on www.osdisc.com
[08:20] <richard> /dev/hdb1 on /home/richard/Disk2 type ntfs (rw)
[08:20] <Corey> mad thanks ill check it out
[08:20] <richard> /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000)
[08:20] <jayrod06> why would you pay for one?
[08:20] <Hisakasex> hello
[08:21] <kayde> drumline_, its free from www.shipit.ubuntu.org
[08:21] <maikol> i just finished partitioning my hard drive but it says "Invalid Partition table" when i reboot. is it lost forever? i can still access the files through knoppix though.
[08:21] <AlmtyBob> oh lord, you mounted your ntfs as RW?
[08:21] <Corey> you stinking hobit
[08:21] <tapio_> gcc isn't installed by default?
[08:21] <drumline_> kayde: somebody just said that it could take months going through ubuntu.org
[08:21] <Corey> thats suse not ubuntu
[08:21] <Hisakasex> do you know if the repository is working?
[08:21] <Managu> richard: errm, you have /dev/hdb1 mounted in two different places?  And you can't read either one?
[08:21] <intelikey> richard  " sudo umount /media/hdb1 && sudo mount /media/hdb1 "   <--- without the dubble quotes of course.   that should fix you up.
[08:21] <Madpilot> Corey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[08:21] <drumline_> Kayde: a few bucks is not much to pay for a nice operating system :)
[08:21] <kayde> drumline_, wAAA
[08:21] <kayde> drumline_, i dont have a paypal ac
[08:21] <Corey> ah i love you madpilot allways help me out ahha :P
[08:22] <drumline_> Kayde: I plan on paying $60 when a boxed version of SuSE arrives.
[08:22] <Hisakasex> Err http://archive.ubuntulinux.org breezy/main zlib1g 1:1.2.3-3ubuntu4
[08:22] <Hisakasex>   Could not connect to archive.ubuntulinux.org:80 (85.133.25.8), connection timed out
[08:22] <glick> heh their boxing ubuntu in germany
[08:22] <cilkay> Corey: http://en.opensuse.org/Optimal_Use_of_Fonts_on_SuSE  Makes no diff that it's Suse. Adjust recipe to suit.
[08:22] <holycow> drumline_, your paying for suse?
[08:22] <holycow> just out of curiosity, why?
[08:22] <Hisakasex> is the error when I run aptitude
[08:22] <glick> you get a sweet Tshirt and a 300 page manual
[08:22] <drumline_> glick: they should box it in USA too
[08:22] <cilkay> drumline_: they do
[08:22] <drumline_> holycow: because it's a nice OS and there's more enterprise support.
[08:22] <cilkay> Well, in Canada they do.
[08:22] <holycow> lol riiiight
[08:22] <drumline_> holycow: Yast is nice.
[08:22] <glick> drumline_, yeah i think ubuntu is worth at least $250
[08:22] <glick> boxed
[08:23] <Madpilot> Hisakasex, that's not a good repo address, as far as I know
[08:23] <intelikey> lol
[08:23] <drumline_> glick: basically a donation.
[08:23] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Hisakasex about repos
[08:23] <holycow> drumline_, all cool, i shouldn't make any comments i really did want to hear why
[08:23] <holycow> i want novell to survive too, despite the fact they insist on doing everything wrong imho
[08:23] <Hisakasex> can you give me a good repo address?
[08:23] <drumline_> holycow: :)   I remember seeing something about an enterprise version of Ubuntu, but I never dug to find it.  Do you have any data on it?
[08:24] <drumline_> holycow: what are they doing wrong?
[08:24] <holycow> drumline_, what do you mean 'enterprise'
[08:24] <Hisakasex> can you give me a good repo address?
[08:24] <intelikey> richard ?       (no error means  no error)
[08:24] <holycow> enterprise means shit, its a code word for *pay u$$$)
[08:24] <Madpilot> Hisakasex, see the PM you just got from ubotu
[08:24] <drumline_> holycow: tools to administer many computers easily...
[08:24] <Madpilot> holycow, language, thanks
[08:24] <glick> put a sticker price of only $50 less then the latest version of vista when it ships, put it next to vista on the shelves and only THEN might peole seriously consoder it
[08:24] <maikol> i just finished partitioning my hard drive but it says "Invalid Partition table" when i reboot. is it lost forever? i can still access the files through knoppix though.
[08:24] <cilkay> holycow: No, it means "We're aligning our synergies." :)
[08:24] <drumline_> holycow: Suse has Apparmor...  I don't know if Ubuntu has an equivalent, but that's one reason I chose suse.
[08:24] <holycow> drumline_, well the first thing they did wrong was buying suse for starters.  you can't get much worse than that
[08:25] <glick> the public at large that is
[08:25] <holycow> cilkay, ehe :) yes me too
[08:25] <spikeb> aside from not being able to brand anything consistently, and being unable or unwilling to make industrial work system wide, novell seems to be doing alright
[08:25] <Madpilot> drumline_, there won't be an "Enterprise" version of Ubuntu - see Mark Shuttleworth's wiki page...
[08:25] <SurfnKid> holycow, holycow!
[08:25] <elkalajo> hi
[08:25] <holycow> Madpilot, the s word got through :)
[08:25] <spikeb> buying ximian was probably smart, buying suse was silly
[08:25] <drumline_> madpi: thx
[08:25] <kayde> I take it there is NO easy way to upgrade ginp to gimpshop or gimp 2.2.11?
[08:25] <Hisakasex> thanks
[08:25] <elkalajo> WTF?
[08:25] <holycow> drumline_, tools to administer what? you mean that crappy tool called yast?
[08:25] <richard> how do i know if it worked
[08:25] <shinobi2> anyone have a toshiba lappy? wondering how i can use restoring disc along with paritioning tools.  my lappy is just one partition, can't install linux at this point
[08:25] <holycow> you call that enterprise class?
[08:25] <richard> its not telling me
[08:25] <holycow> hehe :) hoo boy :)
[08:25] <drumline_> holycow: Yast is nice.  I dunno what you're talking about.
[08:25] <kayde> shinobi2, i have a toshiba...
[08:25] <holycow> thats fine, i do :)
[08:26] <Healot> shinobi2: you can resize partition using the Ubuntu installer
[08:26] <drumline_> holycow: if you want to explain yourself, I'd be happy to listen to what you have to say.  :)
[08:26] <glick> i found the ubuntu installer more confusing then it was earlier
[08:26] <spikeb> er, novell's linux has about twenty billion different tools, none of which work very well together yet. that's another issue they have.
[08:26] <Healot> in dapper, glick?
[08:26] <holycow> drumline_, just to point at someting, these conversations quickly get into 'defensive/offensive' mode
[08:26] <glick> Healot, yeah
[08:26] <Madpilot> kayde, the easy way is to wait a little while for 6.06 tob e released. the harder way is to do it yourself.
[08:26] <shinobi2> kayde, does the restoring disc ask you to repartition your drive? i know some lappy's restore-disc will ask. but others restoring-disc do not ask
[08:26] <shinobi2> Healot, great
[08:27] <holycow> drumline_, its not my intent to start stuff, i disagree with your assesment in every way, but i respect the fact that you have decided on something that suits you
[08:27] <glick> the breezy installer seemed to me just more clearer and to the point, even though it was text based
[08:27] <kayde> shinobi2, ive never had a problem...
[08:27] <intelikey> richard    the pointy clicky thingy   is  file manager and navigate there.   the cli way is   ls -l /media/hdb1
[08:27] <mikomiko_> does Linux have feature like in windows where i can restore the computer setting from previous state
[08:27] <holycow> drumline_, well i can explain my self but irc is very 1.5 dimensional, its not really good for any sort of argument.
[08:27] <intelikey> if you own files there then it worked...
[08:27] <rob138> hi, i am trying to ./configure gparted, and it stops at checking for uuid_generate in -luuid... no | configure: error: *** uuid library (libuuid) not found ... but i have libuuid1 installed
[08:27] <glick> mikomiko_, you dont need it in linux
[08:28] <holycow> drumline_, its cool your checking it all out anyway
[08:28] <Managu> holycow,drumline_: ooh, holy war!
[08:28] <glick> mikomiko_, so no, linux does not have restore points
[08:28] <tapio_> I don't really get this apt-get stuff. It doesn't seem to find anything. Does it need further configuration? (Allready did some configuring during the install).
[08:28] <drumline_> holycow: I'm not instigating anything.   I'm merely receiving a lot of "You call that a this?!" and "that crappy that."   seriously...  I don't give schit what I use as long as it's secure, will have good industry support, and doesn't piss me off with stupid stuff.   You can tell me whatever you think about any flavor.  I'm not attached.  :)
[08:28] <holycow> glick,  well thats not exactly true.  linux can have restore points
[08:28] <shinobi2> Healot, i installed ubuntuu once, never recall, it asking me to resize.  i never pay any attension to resizing. since i usually, resize it manually
[08:28] <kayde> whaat i the terminl code for ssearching for and downloading/installing programs?
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> rob138: The real question is why are you compiling gparted?
[08:28] <richard> I still cannot access the folder when navigating via file system -> media - although there is no error message - its just blank
[08:28] <holycow> glick, it depends how you install it and configure whatever you consider restore points
[08:28] <glick> holycow, umm if you set it up to to automatic backup
[08:28] <glick> to a nfs backup server
[08:29] <glick> then sure
[08:29] <Madpilot> kayde, apt-get
[08:29] <holycow> glick, its more true to say that linux doesn't have preinstalled software to generate 'restore poitns'
[08:29] <rob138> tonyyarusso, because for some reason, apt-get can't resolve it
[08:29] <glick> but the key words were "like in windows"
[08:29] <Managu> richard: when you run "sudo mount", are there any entries mentioning /dev/hdb1?
[08:29] <holycow> glick, thats a wrong statement too, key word would mostly be like 'ui works like windows'
[08:29] <holycow> the underlying technology be default will work different no matter how you attempt to do it
[08:29] <mikomiko_> i dont know what i have i done, but when trying to open my firefox, terminal opens real quick then closes right after, no FIREFOX opens
[08:30] <D_dog> any one have a cool blueish wallpaper 1280 x 1024 or larger they wanna send me..im so tired of brown and im lazy too :)
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> rob138: Very weird
[08:30] <holycow> glick, i'd like to actually set something up as a local install that takes images on a regular basis infact :)
[08:30] <richard> I still have hdb1 mounted in two locations
[08:30] <glick> mikomiko_, try opoeing up firefox from the terminal, what kina error messages does it generate
[08:30] <richard> /dev/hdb1 on /home/richard/Disk2 type ntfs (rw)
[08:30] <richard> /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000)
[08:30] <mikomiko_> oh, it works in terminal
[08:31] <holycow> drumline_, i know you don't give a shit, i was only hoping to explain that i had no intention of starting stuff ... despite the few statements i did put out there in bad taste
[08:31] <richard> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[08:31] <mikomiko_> it says the following 4 lines
[08:31] <mikomiko_> plugin_get_value 1
[08:31] <mikomiko_> plugin_get_value 2
[08:31] <mikomiko_> *** loading the extensions datasource
[08:31] <mikomiko_> *** loading the extensions datasource
[08:31] <intelikey> ruchard that's it umount the one in your home.
[08:31] <richard> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[08:31] <richard> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[08:31] <richard> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[08:31] <richard> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[08:31] <richard> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[08:31] <richard> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[08:31] <richard> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[08:31] <glick> holycow, thats a simple cron job
[08:31] <Madpilot> richard, pastebin next time!
[08:31] <glick> and a 5 line bash script
[08:31] <shinobi2> do bulit-in wireless card on lappy play nice with ubuntu?
[08:31] <holycow> glick, how woul dyou do it?  file system image? dpkg reverse of some sort?
[08:32] <richard> soz
[08:32] <kayde> Madpilot, what is the root loging code?
[08:32] <Managu> shinobi2: 30% chance yes, 70% chance no
[08:32] <Madpilot> kayde, the what?
[08:32] <richard> paste bin ..... whats that
[08:32] <glick> holycow, well where you gonna store the images?
[08:32] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[08:32] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[08:32] <kayde> Madpilot, **root login**
 /dev/hdb1 on /home/richard/Disk2 type ntfs (rw) <---- umount that.     " sudo umount /home/richard/Disk2 "
[08:32] <Madpilot> kayde, use sudo and your own user password in Ubuntu
[08:32] <drumline_> holycow: that's fine man.  Sall good.  :)   I'm very interested in selecting the best linux distro out there and honestly want to know the arguments for, against, and alternatives to the one I'm using.  :)
[08:32] <holycow> glick, well the thought was to have it local, most users don't have automated remote backups
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> shinobi2: Intel Pro/wireless 2915 a/b/g works like a charm.
[08:32] <eydaimon> anyone got compiz workin?
[08:32] <shinobi2> Managu, how about for pcmcia cards (wireless)?
[08:33] <Madpilot> kayde, there is no root login or root pw by default in Ubuntu, and they're not needed
[08:33] <Managu> shinobi2: slightly better odds
[08:33] <holycow> drumline_, there are no argument for or against, they all have the same tools, its all open source
[08:33] <kayde> Madpilot, it just said that i have 2
[08:33] <glick> holycow, just right a write a little shell script that will tar up the directories yo want saved, and put it into your crontab
[08:33] <holycow> drumline_, what really differentiatest distros is the official support you can buy
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> eydaimon: That's a questions for #ubuntu-xgl.
[08:33] <intelikey> richard you sould be able to access /media/hdb1   navigate there.
[08:33] <glick> to run like once every few days, or whenever
[08:33] <holycow> drumline_, thats pretty much it, everything else is semantics in relationship to the administrator
[08:33] <kayde>  Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:33] <kayde> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[08:33] <drumline_> holycow: and how much money you pay  :)
[08:34] <Amaranth> kayde: you need to use sudo
[08:34] <kayde> Madpilot, ohh, yea sry there
[08:34] <Healot> kayde: is synaptic open?
[08:34] <kayde> Healot, dose it need to be?
[08:34] <Amaranth> it shouldn't be
[08:34] <drumline_> holycow: have you obliterated MS from your life?
[08:34] <Madpilot> kayde, two what?
[08:34] <Madpilot> kayde, no, it needs to be closed if you're trying to use apt-get
[08:34] <shinobi2> my card is called 'Atheros 801.11b/g wireless-LAN' , Managu , tonyyarusso
[08:34] <holycow> glick, i don't like that at all.  it would be great to have live versioning of some sort.  i'd love to let a person browse their files and restore only the ones they want, not a whole image back
[08:34] <kayde> Madpilot, im soooo lost
[08:35] <Madpilot> kayde, what are you trying to do?
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> shinobi2: I think the Atheros ones usually work well.  Thinking about installing and checking things out ahead of time I take it?
[08:35] <maikol> shinobi2, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28wireless%29
[08:35] <kayde> Madpilot, update...install packages
[08:35] <holycow> drumline_, many years ago, i manage it for other people but i havent used it in about 3 years now
[08:35] <Healot> kayde: without sudo precedence i guess?
[08:35] <glick> holycow, you can do that too, put it into svn, and use archiver to find files
[08:35] <richard>  sudo umount /home/richard/Disk2
[08:35] <kayde> Healot, ?? what?
[08:35] <richard> did not work
[08:35] <holycow> glick, local svn?
[08:35] <glick> holycow, you could automate all of this if your bash scripting is up to par
[08:35] <kayde> Healot, wth is sudo?
[08:36] <Nyctea> hi all, any one from Belgium here?
[08:36] <kayde> ubotu, tell kayde about sudo
[08:36] <shinobi2> tonyyarusso, yeah.
[08:36] <holycow> glick, you know mostly i was just bullshitting you as i didn't think you actually had a clue ...
[08:36] <shinobi2> maikol, thx
[08:36] <holycow> glick, but that is actually a decent idea :)
[08:36] <Healot> sudo is the thing you need to remember when using most Linux distros :)
[08:36] <Madpilot> kayde, the easiest way to install stuff is Synaptic, not apt-get. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:36] <holycow> glick, not only is it a decent idea, it is actually a ver doable idea
[08:36] <DylanPierce> Okay, I'm about to give up. Everything on Ubuntu is exactly what I need, except one single thing, and that thing is going to force me back to Windows whether I want to or not... so I'll ask here.
[08:36] <holycow> very nice
[08:37] <kayde> Madpilot, ok ty
[08:37] <Managu> DylanPierce: sounds loaded
[08:37] <glick> great to know you were only bullshitting me the entire time
[08:37] <richard>  sudo umount /home/richard/Disk2
[08:37] <richard>  didnt work ??
[08:37] <DylanPierce> I've spent the last four days trying, and I can't seem to get anything related to streaming Internet radio to work.
[08:37] <Managu> richard: "didn't work"?
[08:37] <holycow> :) we are on a noob chan, lots of hot air here, some if mine
[08:37] <holycow> hehe
[08:37] <DylanPierce> Does anyone have any experience with this and could help me out?
[08:37] <P0ldy> DylanPierce, what format?
[08:37] <richard> well i did sudo mount again .... and its still there
[08:38] <DylanPierce> I've got to broadcast to a Shoutcast server.
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> DylanPierce: Got w32codecs and other RestrictedFormats?
[08:38] <Managu> DylanPierce: so, you're trying to broadcast, and not just listen?
[08:38] <Healot> DylanPierce: to stream media files with Linux... you can use "vlc"... i guess the best player for broadcast
[08:38] <DylanPierce> tonyyarusso: I installed a bunch of stuff from the restricted formats page, following some online insturctions.
[08:38] <Healot> yeah, and get those that tonyyarusso told you
[08:39] <glick> heh maybe if i have some time in a coupla weeks, ill work on something along thoe lines
[08:39] <DylanPierce> Managu: yes, broadcast.
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> Good start
[08:39] <troy_s> stream dylan?
[08:39] <intelikey> richard then   sudo umount /home/richard/*
[08:39] <richard> umount: /home/richard/Desktop: not mounted
[08:39] <richard> umount: /home/richard/Disk2: not mounted
[08:40] <DylanPierce> I installed MuSE on a recommendation, and not only did it not work, but whoever writes their documentation is sadistic.
[08:40] <richard> ok
[08:40] <richard> so i guess i need to mount one again
[08:40] <intelikey> richard so    ls -l /media/hdb1
[08:40] <mikomiko_> Is this software working in ubuntu
[08:40] <mikomiko_> http://desk3d.sourceforge.net/download.php
[08:40] <glick> DylanPierce, documentation is like sex, when its great its grand, when its not...hey at least its better then nothing.
[08:40] <intelikey> don't flood just tell me if you see files or not
[08:40] <troy_s> Dylan you still here?
[08:40] <tapio_> lets say I were to install nmap. What should I write?
[08:40] <Managu> richard,intelikey: mounttab messed up maybe?
[08:40] <richard> ls: /media/hdb1: Permission denied
[08:40] <Healot> mikomiko_: it should, if properly compiled and packaged?
[08:40] <intelikey> richard don't flood just tell me if you see files or not
[08:41] <troy_s> Dylan:  Have you tried icecast?
[08:41] <babo> /usr/local/bin vs /usr/bin ... ?  which one should I use to install my program ...
[08:41] <babo> ?
[08:41] <DylanPierce> troy_s Yes, not going anywhere.
[08:41] <intelikey> richard are you uid 1000  ?
[08:41] <richard> whats that
[08:41] <troy_s> Dylan:  What's the exact issue?
[08:41] <mikomiko_> healot, have you used it before?
[08:41] <mikomiko_> it only have 4 steps instruction, dont know if that is enough
[08:41] <richard> no i still cant see files
[08:41] <Managu> tapio: "sudo apt-get install nmap" from a console
[08:42] <richard> the only way i can see them is via drive manager browse
[08:42] <DylanPierce> troy_s The issue is that there don't seem to be any broadcasters that let me do live broadcasts. The ones I've tried don't seem to do anything at all except sit there.
[08:42] <intelikey> richard do this in your irc client where you are talking to me.   /exec -o echo $UID
[08:42] <Managu> babo: /usr/local/bin
[08:42] <cilkay> babo: you mean where should you install your program? If so, is it only going to be used by you? If yes, ~/bin. If no, and it's not part of the distro, in /usr/local - you can usually specify in the configure step where it should be installed.
[08:42] <kayde> Madpilot, got it
[08:42] <Managu> babo: /usr/bin is reserved for distribution-managed binaries
[08:43] <DylanPierce> I always used SAM in Windows, haven't found anything even remotely comparable for Linux.
[08:43] <kayde> Madpilot, thanks man,
[08:43] <Healot> mikomiko_: no however, but i've packaged/compiled a lot of other source programs liek that before
[08:43] <Madpilot> kayde, cool. got what?
[08:43] <holycow> DylanPierce, what does sam do?
[08:43] <babo> ok thanks ... :-)
[08:43] <troy_s> Dylan:  That's quite a common thing.  Stick with the linux, it will work.  I assure you.
[08:44] <DylanPierce> holycow It allows me to broadcast a Internet streaming radio talk show.
[08:44] <holycow> DylanPierce, your kidding?
[08:44] <holycow> we only have like a bajillion streaming servers
[08:44] <tapio_> Managu: http://pastebin.com/744273
[08:44] <holycow> of any kind you want
[08:44] <farous> can we download the old 2.4 kernel on ubuntu. The matlab program i have refuse to work on the 2.6 kernel
[08:44] <shinobi2> what are i.LINK ports for?
[08:44] <intelikey> 501
[08:45] <glick> farous, heh octave
[08:45] <Healot> farous: you can... but the system may be broken
[08:45] <shinobi2> 501?
[08:45] <glick> or scilab
[08:45] <Amaranth> shinobi2: i.LINK == Firewire
[08:45] <troy_s> Dylan:  Live should be irrelevant, you simply pipe to mp3 or whatever ogg on the fly and then stream it.
[08:45] <farous> glick: matlab is much more better
[08:45] <DylanPierce> troy_s My problem is that I'm due to go on the air tomorrow, and I've spend the entire weekend trying to make this work and failed. Now, I have no doubt this is due to my own incompetence, but nonetheless, if I can't get on the air, I can't be on Linux.
[08:45] <richard> still no joy
[08:45] <richard> :(
[08:45] <Amaranth> shinobi2: Mostly used for hooking up iPods and getting videos off of DV cameras
[08:45] <troy_s> Dylan:  the unix way is to do singular things well -- don't look for an all in one package, but rather a couple of tools chained together.
[08:45] <glick> farous, yeah i know
[08:45] <farous> Healot: id id not find the image for 2.4 so is it in warty repos
[08:46] <troy_s> dylan:  hard deadline ick.
[08:46] <Managu> tapio_: why doesn't sudo work? What in the world is a zrokstation?
[08:46] <glick> however scilab was written by the french government
[08:46] <glick> it must have some merit
[08:46] <richard> /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000)
[08:46] <shinobi2> Amaranth, ah.. this lappy does not have biger-firewire port, only i.LINK port
[08:46] <glick> or rather funded by the french government
[08:46] <holycow> DylanPierce, i would help personally but i've not setup anything like that ... i know there are even live cds out there that let you run a streaming server just from that
[08:46] <Healot> farous: yes, it is on the older releases, but installing those 2.4 kernels might break your breezy/dapper releases
[08:46] <richard> but i cant access it still
[08:46] <glick> written at CERN
[08:46] <Managu> tapio_: oh, I see zrokstation is your hostname, nm that question.
[08:46] <Amaranth> shinobi2: yeah, apple does the 6-pin ones that provide power, PC makers use the 4-pin unpowered version
[08:46] <farous> Healot: would not heart to try
[08:47] <DylanPierce> troy_s I believe you! I'm sure that if I had a while to learn everything I needed to know, I'd be fine, but right now, I need to just get broadcasting step by step.
[08:47] <farous> glick i will check scilab
[08:47] <hugomagic> Hi!  Can I do a system restore in windows to start completely fresh after I installed ubuntu, or having ubuntu interferes with the restoration?
[08:47] <babo> ok, so I've unpacked my program (ncftp), moved it into /usr/local/bin/ and then I ran ./configure. It returned without any errors, put yet I still can't run the command ... ncftp
[08:47] <tapio_> Managu: Not sure why sudo won't work, but apt-get is my main concern. Don't like sudo anyways :p
[08:47] <Bob_4_a_day> modem reset.
[08:47] <richard> richard@Appleby:~$ ls -l /media/hdb1
[08:47] <richard> ls: /media/hdb1: Permission denied
[08:47] <DylanPierce> troy_s I don't care if it's only a voice and one music channel, no special effects, nothing, as long as it gets me on the air. I can learn how to do the sparkly stuff later.
[08:47] <Bob_4_a_day> richard.  did you ever show your uid ?
[08:47] <richard> yes
[08:47] <troy_s> http://www.linux.ie/articles/streamingaudio.php
[08:48] <farous> glick: is scilab like maxima for i am using it now
[08:48] <Bob_4_a_day> i missed it   care to repost
[08:48] <Managu> tapio_: Not knowing off hand if nmap is in the main repository -- do you have the universe repository selected?
[08:48] <troy_s> Just use google bro.  I can only imagine that the bulk of live streams use a unix backend, so the info should be available.
[08:48] <Healot> hugomagic: installing ubuntu has no effect on Windows system restore... except you might deleted your Windows partition by mistake :)
[08:48] <babo> anyone ?
[08:48] <Bob_4_a_day> was it 1000  richard ?
[08:48] <Managu> babo: move it back to somewhere in your home directory.  Then run "./configure --prefix=/usr/local; make; sudo make install"
[08:48] <troy_s> I quote "This should hopefully fill you in with a basic idea of whats     required to stream your own online radio station. "
[08:48] <glick> farous, im not sure what maxima is
[08:49] <hugomagic> thanks Healot
[08:49] <glick> farous, check out the homepage scilab.org
[08:49] <richard> did you get that
[08:49] <farous> glick: it is like maple but will check scilab thanx :)
[08:49] <Bob_4_a_day> no
[08:49] <AlmtyBob> how can I get tightvncserver to run at boot?
[08:49] <erik> hey, I'm trying to use ubuntu on my powerbook g4; does anyone know how I can make the trackpad acceleration + 2-finger scroll behavior behave like in OS X?
[08:49] <DylanPierce> troy_s Actually read that article, and many others like it. Nice overviews.
[08:49] <Managu> tapio_: barring that, I'd try a "sudo apt-get update" and then try "sudo apt-get install nmap" again
[08:49] <richard> how do i do it just for you?
[08:49] <Bob_4_a_day> richard /msg
[08:49] <babo> Managu: oops, I figured that make && make install would be in the configure file (don't ask me why) ... anyway thanks
[08:50] <tapio_> Managu: I'll try that. if i use sudo, or just su doesn't really matter, i guess?
[08:50] <babo> I don't really need to move it back to home though do I ?
[08:50] <farous> ok thanx guys :)
[08:50] <Managu> tapio_: so long as you know what you're doing; if you're root, just drop all the "sudo"'s.  It's just a habit from being in #ubuntu so long
[08:51] <Managu> almtybob: system -> preferences -> session
[08:51] <richard> i did it again bob
[08:51] <Managu> almtybob: system -> preferences -> session -> startup programs, even
[08:51] <richard> in private chat
[08:52] <Bob_4_a_day> i aint seen nothing. richard just tell me if it is 1000  or not ?
[08:52] <tapio_> Managu: ok, good to know. Found this howto on Repo...youknow;). I'll try reading that. Thanks for you'r time
[08:52] <AlmtyBob> Managu: will that run when my computer boots or when ubuntu starts?
[08:52] <eydaimon> tonyyarusso: thanks
[08:52] <richard> i dont see 1000 anywhere
[08:52] <AlmtyBob> reason being is it's a headless server so I never log in from the pc, I use ssh to start tightvnc, then tightvnc in.  I'd like to skip the ssh step
[08:53] <Bob_4_a_day> richard then in the terminal   do echo $UID     cause that partition is mounted with uid=1000 and if you are not uid 1000 then that's the problem.
[08:54] <Bob_4_a_day> richard and if that's the problem you will need to edit /etc/fstab   and correct it.
[08:54] <richard> it kicked back 1000
[08:54] <Bob_4_a_day> ok.
[08:54] <DylanPierce> Is there anywhere else I might be able to go on this issue? I'm really at my wit's end as far as fighting with it goes.
[08:54] <Bob_4_a_day> and you can't ls the drive.... hmmm
[08:54] <richard> nope
[08:54] <richard> weirdness
[08:55] <DylanPierce> On Windows, I never had to come to an IRC channel and beg for help. I just installed, and it worked. I don't see how Linux is an advantage over that.
[08:55] <richard> as i said i can access the drive via drive manager browse
[08:55] <Bob_4_a_day> let's see   mount | grep -ie 'ntfs'      one more time please
[08:55] <maikol> when installing ubuntu, during the partitioning section. what does the "bootable flag" affect.
[08:55] <richard> /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000)
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> DylanPierce: We've had to get Windows help, and trust me, _having_ an irc channel is better than what's available on that end.
[08:56] <Madpilot> maikol, for Linux, I don't think it affects anything
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> DylanPierce: Have you already looked around the wiki, forums, and Google?
[08:56] <DylanPierce> tonyyarusso Globally, I'm sure that's correct. But my problem is specific. And yes, I've spent the last four days looking everywhere. I've installed and uninstalled at least six different programs.
[08:57] <maikol> Madpilot, should i enable it for the windows partition or will a boot loader handle the dual os's
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> DylanPierce: Also, different people are here at different times, so it's often helpful to try back another time or another day, b/c you never know when you'll find someone experienced in a particular area.
[08:57] <Madpilot> maikol, no idea, I've never dualbooted w/ MS
[08:57] <Bob_4_a_day> richard according to that.  you can both read and write to that partition.   but  ls says nosir....   idk.
[08:57] <SurfnKid> back
[08:57] <SurfnKid> !defragmentation
[08:57] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid
[08:57] <FeestBijtje> Dumb lnux question: how do i check for spyware
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> DylanPierce: Okay, have you tried posting on the forums then besides just reading them?
[08:57] <richard> maybe its a user problem
[08:58] <richard> i'll try that ls thing again
[08:58] <holycow> FeestBijtje, you can't really, no one has seen anything that can be defined as spyware on linux ... :/
[08:58] <FeestBijtje> holycow, i know that read the line befor it was to annoy some one
[08:58] <DylanPierce> tonyyarusso No, but only because others have already posted my exact questions in the forums.
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> !spyware
[08:58] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> :)
[08:59] <Bob_4_a_day> the fmask=0133   i'd set to 333   and the dmask 0022   i'd set to 222  but that should still be accessable.
[08:59] <Healot> the easiest with most relax readonly umask is "umask=0022"
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> DylanPierce: Ah.  Dang.  Well, like I said, I'd try back here a few times before giving up.  Sorry you're having trouble, and good luck.
[08:59] <RancidLM> hey all
[09:00] <DylanPierce> tonyyarusso Thanks for your help... unfortunately, I don't think I'm going to have time to go hunting. Like I said, I have to go on the air tomorrow. If there isn't a product I can install and be there, then I need to go back to what I know.
[09:00] <Bob_4_a_day> but the ro access covers the changes i sujested anyway.
[09:00] <RancidLM> im having problems getting the latest nvidia drivers.. i have the drivers.. iv removed the ubuntu nvidia-glx  and i have compiled and installed the drivers but every time on boot its unable to load X until i re-install the drivers.. can some one give me some advice?  thanks!
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> DylanPierce: Only for tomorrow ;)
[09:01] <glick> DylanPierce, have you checked freshmeat?
[09:01] <Bob_4_a_day> anyone know howto generate a /boot/map  file ?
[09:01] <Healot> make-kpkg package...
[09:01] <WisH[AwaY] > anyone knows from totem plugins? it says i have to install a decoder to handle .pls files so i can listen to an online radio station.and to install the neccessary plugins.
[09:01] <WisH[AwaY] > any ideas
[09:01] <odatsgurl> anyone know what is the webpage to get a sources.list?
[09:02] <Managu> DylanPierce: you say you're happy with this "sam" program for windows.  Have you tried installing under wine to see if it will work there?
[09:02] <glick> thats a disturbing quit message
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> WisH[AwaY] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:03] <Managu> RancidLM: there's probably a kernel module or two that you have to install
[09:03] <PORDO> i can't get gstreamer to play mp3, and i've got the gstreamer ugly package installed. :(
[09:04] <Healot> ugly, PORDO
[09:04] <Managu> RancidLM: if you can determine which they are, you could add a few entries to your /etc/modules file to be sure they get loaded
[09:04] <RancidLM> Managu: but doesn't the nvidia installer do that
[09:04] <odatsgurl> can anyone tell me what the webpage is to get a sources.list?
[09:05] <Managu> RancidLM: load the kernel modules?  Yes.  Tell your system to reload them on reboot?  I thought so, but maybe not.
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> !sources
[09:05] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:05] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell odatsgurl about easysource
[09:05] <PORDO> Healot ?
[09:06] <odatsgurl> thx a lot
[09:07] <crazy_penguin> morning everybody!
[09:08] <richard> can anyone help me with gaining ro access to NTFS slave drive
[09:09] <Flannel> richard: have you read what ubotu tells you?
[09:09] <richard> url u mean
[09:10] <richard> *goes to read stuff*
[09:10] <PORDO> can someone help me get mp3 support working in rhythmbox?
[09:10] <jrsims> God dammitall! This fracking nvidia driver issue is driving me up the wall
[09:10] <jhenn> it says rythmbox dapper can listen to podcasts.  how can that be if aac is restricted?
[09:10] <noiesmo> ubotu, tell PORDO abour Restricted
[09:10] <jrsims> is there any way to rever to my original install video modes
[09:11] <PORDO> noiesmo i know well about it.  i've been using ubuntu for over a year.
[09:11] <Healot> !lvm
[09:11] <ubotu> I heard lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[09:11] <robinl1> how to play flash files with totem?
[09:11] <mentor__> how do you make changes in /proc/acpi and /sys/devices permanent? (between rebooting)
[09:11] <Healot> robinl1: install libflashplayer
[09:12] <noiesmo> PORDO, well then I can do mp3  would you like to know how ooh maybe you know all about it then ok me say nothing
[09:12] <robinl1> E: couldn't find package libflashplayer
[09:12] <Managu> mentor__: you mean, like, you did an "echo blah > /proc/acpi/something_here", and you want it to stay?
[09:13] <Healot> robinl1: go here packages.ubuntu.com >> search for flash... I am not a walking diary
[09:13] <mentor__> Managu: yea!
[09:13] <PORDO> noiesmo i can do mp3 in xmms, but not in rhythmbox.
[09:13] <PORDO> and i could swear it was working fine just a few days ago.
[09:13] <Managu> mentor__: add the echo line to /etc/rc.local
[09:13] <Healot> mentor__: do a simple script that run on boot?
[09:14] <mentor__> will that run after all the startup stuff?
[09:14] <Managu> mentor__: yes, after
[09:14] <PORDO> mp3 support for gstreamer..anyone?
[09:15] <Healot> PORDO: the worst you can do is isntall ALL gstreamer plugins that you can find ?
[09:15] <robinl1> Healot: doesn't work.. i mean the packages dont do anything
[09:15] <Managu> PORDO:  I thought the ffmpeg plugins for gstreamer did mp3
[09:15] <PORDO> i thought gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly did it.
[09:15] <maikol> i should install the linux-386 kernel, not the -image 's, right?
[09:15] <mentor__> Managu: thankx. Will place it there. Was a fix to cure thermal throttling problem. Startup happens with the CPU throttled back to 20% since moving to Dapper RC :\
[09:16] <Healot> robinl1: listen to my worst piece of advise, IT WILL WORK
[09:16] <Managu> mentor__: ouch.  Need a new heatsync?
[09:16] <PORDO> hrm...gonna reboot for the hell of it.
[09:16] <Managu> pordo: dapper or breezy?
[09:16] <robinl1> Healot: But it doesn't. Installed libflash, no results.
[09:16] <PORDO> dapper
[09:16] <robinl1> Healot: with the swfplayer nothing shows up. only text
[09:17] <mentor__> Managu: thermal zone trip points are all set below 16C by default. Can't figure out where it gets those values, looked for ages on the kernel mailing lists - can't find a thing
[09:17] <Healot> robinl1: wtf you are talking about?
[09:17] <glick> hey what are some of the more popular email clients in that you all prefer to use?
[09:17] <Managu> pordo: tsk, tsk.  !dapper and all.  I think you should try gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, though
[09:17] <robinl1> Healot: About what i asked?
[09:17] <Healot> packages.ubuntu.com >> search for "Flash"
[09:17] <robinl1> Yes and i did.
[09:17] <maikol> i should install the linux-386 kernel, not the linux-image-386 or linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 's, right?
[09:17] <robinl1> Still can't play files with totem, installed the packages.
[09:18] <robinl1> flash files*
[09:18] <Healot> do you know what you are suppose to look for?
[09:18] <robinl1> Yes
[09:18] <Healot> libflash-swfplayer
[09:18] <robinl1> Yes
[09:18] <robinl1> i know
[09:18] <robinl1> installed it
[09:18] <robinl1> ran the flash
[09:18] <kettenschutz> hey there
[09:18] <robinl1> got only text, no window or graphic stuff or anything
[09:18] <Healot>  libflash0c2 and this too...
[09:18] <kettenschutz> someone could explain how to create service menus?!
[09:19] <robinl1> Healot: Like i said, i installed it all
[09:19] <peter_> yo
[09:19] <kettenschutz> i wanted to create a servicemenu for BCHUNK and mount an iso file
[09:19] <Healot> robinl1: you know what, idc
[09:19] <robinl1> "idc"?
[09:19] <peter_> i dont care
[09:20] <robinl1> Healot: You lazy ***
[09:20] <Healot> sometimes i get mad/angry... be patience
[09:20] <KillerKiwi2006> I keep getting "checking for GNOME... configure: error: unable to find the GNOME libraries" anybody now which package i need?
[09:20] <Managu> pordo: tsk, tsk.  !dapper and all.  I think you should try gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, though
[09:20] <robinl1> Yes, i see.
[09:20] <Agrajag> KillerKiwi2006: gnome-dev ?
[09:20] <KillerKiwi2006> Agrajag: I have that....
[09:21] <Agrajag> er, libgnome-dev
[09:21] <Madpilot> robinl1 & Healot: cool it, OK?
[09:21] <peter_> everyone looking forward to dapper?
[09:21] <Healot> crankiness kicks in sometimes, heh
[09:21] <Agrajag> I'm looking at it right now
[09:21] <kettenschutz> nobody ?!
[09:21] <KillerKiwi2006> Agrajag: yeah thats the one i have
[09:21] <Managu> kettenschutz: what is BCHUNK?
[09:21] <Agrajag> hm, gnome-devel is listed too
[09:22] <kettenschutz> BCHUNK is a programm to convert imagefiles to iso files
[09:22] <Schalken> i know this is kinda of
[09:23] <sobersabre> so.. are we all dapper now ?
[09:23] <Managu> kettenschutz: What you're asking will likely require some programming.  Or at least some scripting.
[09:23] <KillerKiwi2006> gnome-devel looks like tools blufish etc
[09:23] <Agrajag> oh
[09:23] <Agrajag> well no clue then
[09:23] <kettenschutz> mhh i think gamescripting and a littl delphi experience wont reach for this eh?
[09:23] <sobersabre> kettenschutz: what were you asking .. can you repeat ?
[09:24] <kettenschutz> sure sobersabre: someone could explain how to create service menus?!
[09:24] <kettenschutz> i wanted to create a servicemenu for BCHUNK and mount an iso file
[09:24] <sobersabre> 'service menus' are... what ?
[09:24] <KillerKiwi2006> hmm maybe gnome-core-devel
[09:24] <kettenschutz> u arent a KDE user sobersabre ?!
[09:24] <Flannel> kettenschutz: #kubuntu ;) for KDE users/etc.
[09:25] <kettenschutz> mh, thanx @ Flannel
[09:25] <sobersabre> kettenschutz: even though i have used kde... i don't know
[09:25] <Schalken> Ii know this is kinda off topic from UIbuntu, but does anyone know whether IPX and TCP/IP can be used simultaneously over a LAN?
[09:25] <sobersabre> IPX is something over IP.
[09:25] <Schalken> it is?
[09:25] <sobersabre> it is not a completely separate protocol
[09:25] <Schalken> oh okay!
[09:25] <peter_> no it is not
[09:25] <peter_> it is completely seperate
[09:25] <crabgrass> ipx is different
[09:25] <sobersabre> hmm...?
[09:26] <sobersabre> sorry :(
[09:26] <peter_> used to be used be novell
[09:26] <kettenschutz> sobersabre, service menus are the menus @ your kontextmenus by rightclicking a file or somethin' like that
[09:26] <Schalken> It is separate or it isn't?
[09:26] <crabgrass> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPX
[09:26] <Managu> Schalken: they shouldn't interfere or anything; ethernet can carry either
[09:26] <Agrajag> KillerKiwi2006: libgnome2-dev?
[09:26] <sobersabre> thought its an extension...
[09:26] <peter_> ipx/spx, a name for a seperate stack, as oposed to tcp/ip
[09:26] <Schalken> Cool, thanks!
[09:26] <Healot> Schalken: ubuntu stock linux doesn't have IPX/SPX driver... think, recompilation required
[09:26] <peter_> ipx at layer 3
[09:26] <peter_> spx at layer 4
[09:26] <sobersabre> Schalken: sorry
[09:27] <Flannel> kettenschutz: you might have better luck asking in a KDE specific channel.  If they don't know in #kubuntu
[09:27] <sobersabre> kettenschutz: you should ask kde developers.
[09:28] <kettenschutz> woah, where to find a developer ?!
[09:28] <crabgrass> #kde
[09:28] <Managu> mmm, pass the buck!
[09:28] <Flannel> Managu: no, just "asking in appropriate places"
[09:29] <jrsims> what's the usual location of my kernel source tree?
[09:29] <Managu> Flannel: no argument.  same thing ;-)
[09:29] <tapio_> The special characters in my country does only partly work. Does not work in terminals, but do work in browsers, etc. How do i fix that?
[09:29] <Agrajag> jrsims: somewhere under /usr/src, assuming you installed the source
[09:30] <KillerKiwi2006> well that got it....
[09:30] <Agrajag> KillerKiwi2006: oh good
[09:30] <KillerKiwi2006> gnome-core-devel
[09:31] <kettenschutz> thx @ crabgrass i'll be asking there
[09:31] <KillerKiwi2006> now i can compile mail-checker 3, gmail is spitting the dummy with 2 again
[09:31] <Schalken> How come when I share a folder over a windows share and I try to access it from my windows computer it says I need a password?
[09:32] <jrsims> how do I stop x from a terminal?
[09:32] <shriphani> guys why do i get this error while running configure
[09:32] <shriphani> i mean for amule installation from source
[09:32] <peter_> ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:32] <Managu> Schalken: there's probably a security concern involved.  I haven't quite figured that out myself
[09:33] <scapor> jrsims: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:33] <shriphani> can someone tell me if they have had problems compiling amule from source too
[09:33] <Agrajag> jrsims: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:33] <richard> YAY!
[09:33] <richard> Figured it out
[09:33] <richard> Thankyou for your help
[09:34] <Schalken> Managu: is there somehwere where I can configure Ubuntu's SMB connection to make sure it isnt password protected?
[09:34] <shriphani> hello ???
[09:34] <shriphani> anyone
[09:34] <peter_> hey can anyone hear this?
[09:34] <Blackhold> hello
[09:34] <Blackhold> I'm trying the dapper
[09:34] <Schalken> hi
[09:34] <james14> Yes I can hear you
[09:34] <peter_> sweet thx
[09:34] <Agrajag> Schalken: you can set up shares yourself in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:34] <Flannel> Blackhold: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions/support.  Until the 1st anyway.
[09:34] <Blackhold> and I need to know what software uses dapper to make work the wireless
[09:34] <peter_> never used xchat before, i like it
[09:34] <shriphani> i need to know if anyone has problems compiling amule from source
[09:35] <richard> yeah xchat is nice
[09:35] <Schalken> Agrajag: thanks ill have a poke around in there
[09:35] <Agrajag> Schalken: I don't know how to make an unpassworded, writeable share though
[09:35] <Schalken> Agrajag: be nice if i could atleast know what the password was
[09:35] <Agrajag> it's not your own user/pass?
[09:35] <Flannel> Schalken: I imagine it's your user's password.
[09:35] <Schalken> Flannel: yeah i tried that, no go
[09:35] <shriphani> Agrajag, do you have problems compiling amule from source ?
[09:36] <Agrajag> what is amule?
[09:36] <shriphani> a p2p client for linux
[09:36] <peter_> not sure bout amule, i had success with limewire if that helps
[09:36] <Flannel> shriphani: most people don't compile amule from source, and as such, have no experience doing so.  Or at least, no one on at the moment.
[09:36] <Agrajag> Schalken: have you tried setting your password with smbpasswd?
[09:37] <shriphani> Flannel, why did the xemacs guys make installing xemacs such a big issue ?
[09:37] <Flannel> shriphani: there a reason you're compiling?
[09:37] <Schalken> Agrajag: nope, is that just a command line tool?
[09:37] <shriphani> Flannel, i am new to linux so thought it would be good to try my hand out at this
[09:37] <Agrajag> Schalken: yeah
[09:37] <megalomania> ewf
[09:37] <Managu> Schalken: yeah, in /"etc/samba/smb.conf".  I don't know what the security consequences of this are, but adding "security = share" to that file did the trick for me
[09:37] <shriphani> i mean i did ./configure and got an error
[09:37] <Flannel> shriphani: why are you compiling that (xemacs) as well?
[09:38] <Flannel> shriphani: which error?
[09:38] <shriphani> yes
[09:38] <peter_> yeh i used security=share aswell but thats not recommended security
[09:38] <shriphani> configure: error: unable to use zlib - no peer found
[09:38] <Flannel> shriphani: why are you trying to compile all these things?
[09:39] <shriphani> Flannel, to learn
[09:39] <peter_> guest ok = yes?
[09:39] <Schalken> Agrajag: smbpasswd asks for my 'old' smb password, you know, the one I dont know
[09:39] <osfameron> morning
[09:39] <Healot> shriphani: i heard Indians are good programmers, eh?
[09:39] <osfameron> is there an equivalent to Quicksilver/Katapult for Gnome ?
[09:39] <shriphani> i am 15
[09:39] <shriphani> and i learn python
[09:39] <osfameron> or does Katapult work OK on gnome (after installing a metric bucketload of KDE stuff I imagine)
[09:40] <Agrajag> Schalken: run it as root
[09:40] <Agrajag> smbpasswd <username>
[09:40] <shriphani> i mean so far not one package has worked out for me
[09:40] <Agrajag> it should just let you change it
[09:40] <Flannel> Schalken: did you follow the howto?
[09:40] <Flannel> Schalken: it goes over this.  config files, and the like.
[09:40] <Schalken> theres a howto?
[09:40] <Flannel> !tell Schalken about samba
[09:40] <Flannel> the wiki page
[09:41] <crazy_penguin> !tell crazy_penguin about samba
[09:41] <shriphani> the bot may be down
[09:41] <shriphani> 1
[09:41] <Schalken> Flannel: thnx
[09:41] <shriphani> !
[09:41] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, shriphani
[09:41] <shriphani> yeh it isnt down
[09:41] <b0ef> ehlo
[09:41] <b0ef> any way to do a network install using floppies?. I was thinking in the same fashion as a debian floppy install. I would need ubuntu to fetch packages from some ubuntu site as I can't host the iso myself
[09:41] <Agrajag> shriphani: you wouldn't see messages from the bot to those people anywqay
[09:41] <tapio_> I'm having some trouble with the norweigan special characters and the terminals. (only the terminals, not browsers, etc) Could anyone point me in the right directino, please?
[09:41] <shriphani> oh
[09:42] <jrsims> shit. how do I uninstall nvidia-glx packages if all I have is a command line?
[09:42] <Malloc42> jrsims: dpkg -r
[09:42] <shriphani> can anyone tell name a few packages i can compile from source for my knowledge
[09:42] <jrsims> great
[09:42] <Flannel> jrsims: apt-get remove [whatever] 
[09:42] <shriphani> because even though i know the process it never works!!!
[09:43] <teenboyfeet> hey folks. i set up my xorg.conf settings to run two X desktops, one on my CRT and one on my TV, according to the instructions on the ubuntu wiki page "nvidiatvout". this was fine when i was running in GNOME. but since ive switched to KDE, i can run the two desktops fine but the mouse will not move from my first monitor to the second. any ideas? thanks
[09:43] <b0ef> shriphani: lftp is a nice and clean package, f.ex
[09:43] <Flannel> shriphani: did you get build-essentials?
[09:43] <shriphani> yes
[09:43] <shriphani> i got them just today
[09:43] <Healot> shriphani, the kernel source, vlc, libdvdcss2 even the latest supertux
[09:43] <crazy_penguin> DBO: hi!
[09:43] <Flannel> teenboyfeet: if no one in here can answer, you might try asking in #kubuntu, which is KDE/etc specific, they might know.
[09:44] <DBO> crazy_penguin, hi =)
[09:44] <teenboyfeet> ok thanks
[09:44] <shriphani> i mean every compilation from source asks for something i dont have
[09:44] <shriphani> and this drives me mad
[09:44] <crazy_penguin> DBO: may i ask you some advice on pm?
[09:44] <b0ef> shriphani: then grab what you don't have;)
[09:45] <shriphani> apt-get doesnt give those things
[09:45] <shriphani> i mean glib
[09:45] <shriphani> and the like
[09:45] <Healot> 15 and no patience at all
[09:45] <shriphani> yes
[09:45] <shriphani> i mean for starters i need to get some success
[09:45] <Flannel> shriphani: yes, apt-get build-dep
[09:45] <shriphani> ok
[09:45] <DBO> crazy_penguin, yes
[09:46] <crazy_penguin> ok thx
[09:47] <DJ_Danni> Need Serois HEL NOW
[09:47] <DJ_Danni> HHHEELLPP
[09:47] <Healot> shriphani: mmmkay, let's make thing easier for us and yourself
[09:47] <shriphani> ok
[09:47] <DJ_Danni> I need help
[09:47] <zcat[1] > <McNutella> can someone tell me why on earth I am banned from #ubuntu please ?
[09:48] <Flannel> DJ_Danni: until you ask a question, we can't help you.
[09:48] <Healot> can you save the output of make or ./config for us, shriphani?
[09:48] <shriphani> pastebin.com ?
[09:48] <Healot> we can figure out what you need for the compilation
[09:48] <Healot> sure, pastebin
[09:48] <Managu> tapio_: keyboard set up properly for X?  I have no experience with any keyboards other than US 10x key, but that might be a place to start
[09:49] <tapio_> Managu: Ok, whats strange is that the characters work fine in anything other than the terminals, but worth to check it out i guess
[09:50] <zcat[1] > no-one knows?
[09:50] <DJ_Danni> I was Updating my Ubuntu and now i get Kernel Panic - Not Syncing : VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unlnow-bloc(0,0) Whats Wrong :'(
[09:50] <shriphani> http://pastebin.com/744316
[09:50] <Flannel> DJ_Danni: this is dapper?
[09:50] <thenetduck> does anyone know how i can print off of my Linux machine if my printer is connected to my windows machine and my windows and linux machine are networked together????
[09:51] <maikol> cups
[09:51] <zcat[1] > configure a printer, networked, SMB, point to your windows machine..
[09:51] <DJ__Danni> Whats Wrong?
[09:52] <MuLLeR> hello .... can someone help me with traffic prioritization?
[09:52] <zcat[1] > DJ__Danni: can you still boot by selecting the previous kernel in grub ?
[09:52] <maikol> should i add another source to apt other than the one configured to it during the instal
[09:52] <thenetduck> where can i configure a printer?
[09:52] <Healot> shriphani: kay, surf packages.ubuntu.com ... type zlib in the package search text, hit search, and check out those *dev* packages... then isntall it using your favorite installer, synaptic or apt-get
[09:52] <DJ__Danni> She wold noat ewen Start up
[09:53] <HymnToLife> maikol> depends what you need to installbut mot likely you will
[09:53] <zcat[1] > if you get to a kernel panic you're way past GRUB...
[09:53] <kmilitzer> Morning everyone ...
[09:53] <maikol> HymnToLife, can i add more once the installation is complete
[09:53] <DJ__Danni> How can i fix that?
[09:53] <Healot> "checking for zlib >= 1.1.4... no", it shows that you have isntall the zlib development files
[09:54] <HymnToLife> maikol> of course
[09:54] <HymnToLife> !apt
[09:54] <ubotu> well, apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[09:54] <DJ__Danni> How can i fix that?
[09:54] <maikol> HymnToLife, sweet thanks
[09:54] <xgllo> .nzb files crash when being opened in klibido or nzb any ideas?
[09:54] <zcat[1] > at the grub menu it should say 'press esc for more options' or list all the installed kernels.. pick an older one?
[09:54] <xgllo> .nzb files crash when being opened in klibido or nzb gnome resets and loads back at login window.
[09:55] <DJ__Danni> Can you tell me what to do??????
[09:55] <shriphani> ok thanks found it
[09:55] <shriphani> and yeah is upgrading ubuntu a pain in the ass
[09:55] <DJ__Danni> Wuy?
[09:55] <shriphani> just asking
[09:56] <DJ__Danni> She give me a Error
[09:56] <DJ__Danni> Canoat start her:S
[09:56] <shriphani> she ?
[09:56] <shriphani> who is she
[09:56] <Corey> Hey brothers does anyone know when macromedia plan to release flash player 9 for linux ?
[09:56] <xgllo> 8.5
[09:56] <Corey> No 9.
[09:56] <visik7> Corey: not in their blog
[09:57] <zcat[1] > Corey: sometime before Duke Nukem Forever is out, and possibly after Vista is launched..
[09:57] <crazy_penguin> shriphani: not it is not a pain in the ass. imho it's one of the best upgrade systems that i saw until today
[09:57] <shriphani> ok
[09:57] <Corey> They said they are making flash player 9 for linux aswell.
[09:57] <shriphani> how do you upgrade it
[09:57] <Healot> his girlfriend (his PC), shriphani
[09:57] <shriphani> because i saw no option during the breezy install
[09:57] <DJ__Danni> I get this messages :: Kernel panic - not  somthang:S
[09:57] <DJ__Danni> Whats WRONG?
[09:58] <kmilitzer> I've got a stupid question. Is there a file somehwere to find out which version of ubuntu is running, like /etc/debian_release shows the debian version?
[09:58] <Corey> I have to use wine firefox with flash 8 plugin which is partly annoying to view flash 8+ movies.
[09:58] <zcat[1] > My kids use the windows mozilla under wine so they can run the latest flash and shockwave games..
[09:58] <Healot> DJ__Danni: reboot and select the previous kernel that you used before?
[09:58] <DJ__Danni> How?
[09:58] <shriphani> Healot, can you tell me small packages that i can use to improve tarball experience ?
[09:58] <zcat[1] > works for me..
[09:58] <DJ__Danni> I am Rboting
[09:58] <peter_> buy them an xbox360 lol
[09:58] <maikol> any preferences as to the grub or lilo boot loaders?
[09:58] <xgllo> my computer reboots when I close windows randomly now
[09:58] <Corey> Has anyone installed flash 8 using wine ?
[09:58] <visik7> Corey: you can't
[09:59] <Corey> or has it had results like installing dreamweaver 8
[09:59] <Healot> small packages? shriphani: don't get you
[09:59] <visik7> or can?
[09:59] <zcat[1] > Corey:  yes. It's pretty easy.
[09:59] <DJ__Danni> Shut i let her boot from CD?
[09:59] <shriphani> i mean tarballs that are small in size
[09:59] <xgllo> its on fire now...
[09:59] <Corey> I copied all my dreamweaver files over but it says when i start it up that i need to re-install unfortunetly.
[09:59] <DJ__Danni> ?
[10:00] <AlmtyBob> has anyone installed "nuvexport" for mythtv? Is there anything special I need to do?  I did make install and it appeared to install correctly but it won't run now, it errors out
[10:00] <Healot> shriphani: you can make your own... tar cvf <tarball filename> <directory to tar>
[10:00] <kmilitzer> So is there a way to tell the vesion of the running ubuntu?
[10:00] <DJ__Danni> Hey Answare me
[10:00] <shriphani> i mean to insall
[10:00] <shriphani> install ^
[10:00] <Healot> compile+install eh? shriphani?
[10:00] <crimsun> kmilitzer: lsb_release -r
[10:01] <shriphani> yes Healot
[10:01] <zcat[1] > DJ__Danni: just after you turn her on, do you see the message "Loading GRUB.." before it crashes?
[10:01] <kmilitzer> crimsun: Cool, thanks
[10:01] <Allz-i-> Does someone knowz -Howto change the keyboard
[10:01] <Allz-i-> ?
[10:01] <peter_> unplug it, plug in the new one
[10:02] <Corey> guys how do i make the fonts in mozilla firefox not fuzzy ?
[10:02] <Allz-i-> peter?
[10:02] <zcat[1] > Corey: firefox under wine?
[10:02] <Corey> no normal firefox
[10:02] <zcat[1] > they're fuzzy?
[10:02] <Corey> I had to make the text bigger
[10:02] <Corey> Yeah they are a bit blurry when to small
[10:02] <kholerabbi> Hello, I have several files with extension .shs (these are documents created with Microsoft Office, when text is dragged to the desktop from an open file.). Openoffice doesn't seem to open them, dose anyone know any way I might be able to?
[10:02] <zcat[1] > they should be just like every other font
[10:02] <DJ__Danni> Yeas soat that'
[10:02] <Corey> In windows you can have them small without the blurryness
[10:03] <peter_> Corey, follow the ubuntuguide webpage for adding new fonts, ur firefox fonts will be immediately clearer
[10:03] <Healot> try "libdvdcss2" from http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/ >> no extra packages needed
[10:03] <Corey> I've got all m$ fonts on firefox
[10:03] <Corey> guys be right back the toilet is calling me
[10:03] <DJ__Danni> After that in to next step and no mor
[10:03] <zcat[1] > DJ__Danni: just after that it will give you a list of boot options... press the down arrow twice to pick the older kernel, then press enter.
[10:04] <DJ__Danni> ok
[10:04] <AlmtyBob> is there a "make UNinstall"?
[10:04] <tapio_> Any norweigan people here who have any solution to the odd behaviour of the terminals when using one of the special character?(AE OO AA)
[10:04] <AlmtyBob> to completely remove a program
[10:04] <Healot> yes... depends on packages... AlmtyBob
[10:04] <Healot> usually make clean
[10:04] <zcat[1] > AlmtyBob: that depends on the Makefile.. most packages include the option
[10:04] <zcat[1] > make clean != make uninstall
[10:04] <khermans_> Is this channel for Dapper support now?
[10:05] <khermans_> and dapper+1 for eft?
[10:05] <AlmtyBob> what's make clean?
[10:05] <crimsun> khermans_: not until post-1 june
[10:05] <zcat[1] > day after tomorrow I think
[10:05] <zcat[1] > depends on your timezone of course
[10:05] <Flannel> khermans_: #ubuntu+1 for dapper, at the moment, no channels for edgy yet.
[10:05] <AlmtyBob> "no rule to make target 'clean'. Stop.
[10:05] <khermans_> I'm moving very fast relative to you, so it is already June 1st
[10:06] <zcat[1] > Hehe.. I get to ask dapper questions in here before anyone else NZST is GMT+12
[10:06] <Healot> like 3 more days for dapper stable release
[10:06] <crimsun> khermans_: we work according to UTC, sorry bud. :-)
[10:06] <Corey> Hey guys how can i play files that have xvid codecs ?
[10:06] <Flannel> I think we workd according to dapper being released, rather than a specific time ;)
[10:06] <shriphani> Healot, got any packages ?
[10:06] <Schalken> okay I'm giving up on SAMBA
[10:06] <Healot> try "libdvdcss2" from http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/ >> no extra packages needed
[10:07] <Corey> How do you install XGL ?
[10:07] <Healot> your first experiment, shriphani... compile and package it at the same time...
[10:07] <peter_> Schalken, why? SAMBA rocks, plenty of major networks use it
[10:07] <DJ__Danni> ok i ge 5 Choses what shut i Chose?
[10:07] <shriphani> i did those create tars and decompress tars
[10:07] <khermans_> Corey, use the wiki
[10:07] <shriphani> i want to install now
[10:07] <Corey> wiki ?
[10:07] <DJ__Danni> 10 9 or 86+?
[10:07] <Healot> !xgl
[10:07] <ubotu> [xgl]  "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[10:07] <Schalken> peter_: cannot get it workin in Ubuntu
[10:08] <Corey> thanks :D
[10:08] <peter_> Schalken, I got it working fine on many installs, what problem are u having
[10:08] <Corey> is it easy to uninstall XGL ?
[10:09] <Schalken> peter_: when I try to access a shared folder on a windows computer, it says I need a password
[10:09] <Flannel> Corey: Not on breezy.  On dapper, yeah. super easy.
[10:09] <james14> msg nickserv set email volkerbradley@gmail.com
[10:09] <DJ__Danni> Thang you Pebole you Save my Radio And TV Servers
[10:09] <Corey> yeah im on dapper :D
[10:09] <peter_> Schalken, have you read a good text on it? The options are wide rangin, and the concepts not easily understood if u dont understand windows networking
[10:10] <Flannel> Corey: #ubuntu+1 then ;) or #ubuntu-xgl for xgl support/etc
[10:10] <peter_> Schalken, short answer - security=share, guest ok = yes
[10:10] <Schalken> peter_: why cant it just be as easy as doing it on windows?
[10:10] <tgd> hai
[10:10] <Hit3k> So. My wireless connection activates but it isnt connecting to the router I'm putting the right key in as well
[10:10] <tgd> no
[10:10] <Corey> uh guys terminal is not starting up ?
[10:10] <DJ__Danni> Hey this is the best aboat Linux you can always be save from Tabloe and thangs to you Pebole here
[10:11] <peter_> Schalken, If you think windows networking is easy, you are not understandin the intricacies. But that's a silly question. It works how it works, read up and do it. SAMBA would be easy if youd been doing it for 10 years
[10:12] <Corey> how can I check if I have dapper running ?
[10:12] <DJ__Danni> I thang its noat Save for me to Update
[10:12] <shriphani> Healot, got any pavkages for me to install
[10:13] <Schalken> peter_: someone should make a frontend for the smb.conf file
[10:13] <emile> Corey: system, about ubuntu
[10:13] <peter_> Schalken, cool, when are you going to start?
[10:13] <zcat[1] > Schalken: there are several already
[10:14] <Schalken> peter_: lol
[10:14] <peter_> Schalken, try webmin
[10:14] <zcat[1] > dapper you can right-click and share like windows..
[10:14] <peter_> but it really isnt rocket science
[10:14] <Schalken> peter_: is that in the repos?
[10:14] <Coag> Schalken: try SWAT
[10:14] <peter_> yes i think so
[10:14] <peter_> yes try swat
[10:15] <khermans_> Hey, I keep trying to update the wiki with 's/apt-get/aptitude/g' , but people always put it back -- why are we not using aptitude over apt-get ???
[10:15] <zcat[1] > wait three days and try dapper :)
[10:15] <crimsun> khermans_: Please do /not/ do that.
[10:15] <khermans_> crimsun, actually someone told me to update it to aptitude if I saw wikis mentioning apt-get
[10:16] <khermans_> my bad
[10:16] <DJ__Danni> hey zcat[1]  its all ok now. Thang you. You Save my Radio And TV Server's
[10:16] <gleesond> the audio is broken in any new accounts I create, has anyone come accross this?
[10:16] <crimsun> khermans_: the doc team is already extremely frustrated. In the future instances of $apt will be removed, and the instructions will just say to "install foo" without mention of $apt directly.
[10:16] <khermans_> crimsun, can you give a specific reason why aptitude is not being used anyways?
[10:17] <crimsun> khermans_: there's no specific reason any of them are used
[10:17] <khermans_> crimsun, im trying to remember who told me to update the wikis, but i'd have to check the irc logs
[10:17] <zcat[1] > I always try to use/suggest synaptic .. windows migrants FEAR the command line...
[10:18] <khermans_> zcat[1] , true -- i am a cli guy myself
[10:18] <njan> zcat[1] , don't be unfair, not all of them :P
[10:18] <khermans_> but my little brother has been using Ubuntu since he was 8, and now he likes the cli too
[10:19] <Schalken> Coag, peter_: okay I got SWAT, i dont see it in the apps menu, can i just type swat in the terminal?
[10:19] <Coag> it's a web interface
[10:20] <Coag> I'm not rememebering what port it's on
[10:20] <dts> How would I record a video of what I'm doing on my X screen?
[10:20] <zcat[1] > 901 ?
[10:20] <Schalken> Coarg: o....kay....then....
[10:20] <zcat[1] > localhost:901 iirc...
[10:20] <Coag> try going to localhost:901 in your browser
[10:21] <maikol> yey, booting to ubuntu
[10:21] <Schalken> Coag: no go
[10:21] <Coag> not sure then Schalken
[10:21] <Managu> gleesond: not an answer, but something to persue:  Your primary user is, by default, part of the "audio" group.  Did you add the new accounts to that group?
[10:21] <Coag> is the service running?
[10:22] <Schalken> Coag: theres a service that needs to be run?
[10:22] <Coag> I'm guessing
[10:22] <Coag> I'm pulling stuff out of my ass that sounds right right now
[10:22] <Schalken> Coag: lol
[10:22] <gleesond> Managu: no
[10:23] <gleesond> Managu: how do I do that
[10:23] <gleesond> ?
[10:23] <Schalken> Coag: guessing is no good.
[10:23] <zcat[1] > dpsyco-samba - Automate administration of access to samba
[10:23] <zcat[1] > might be a better tool..
[10:23] <zcat[1] > assuming it's not exclusive to dapper :)
[10:23] <Schalken> Coag: i just wanna be able to share a file over to the other computer and print to its printer
[10:24] <Coag> System>Administration>Shared Folders
[10:24] <Coag> System>Administration>Printing
[10:24] <Schalken> Coag: lol
[10:24] <Schalken> Coag: yeah i got that far, if only it worked
[10:24] <Corey> damn xgl isnt a preety to install thing !
[10:24] <shriphani> Healot, did you find something
[10:24] <Coag> works fine for me :P
[10:25] <Corey> is there an easy way of installing ?
[10:25] <Schalken> Coag: well, the printer might have something to do with the lack of printer drivers, but the folder sharing should at least work
[10:25] <Coag> yeah it should
[10:25] <dts> is there something like a video screen grabber?
[10:25] <Schalken> Coag: but its still asking for a password from the other computer
[10:25] <Coag> then give it a password silleh
[10:26] <Schalken> dunno how to
[10:26] <zbyte> oh yeah..ubuntu is still up and running
[10:26] <Coag> make a new user that is the same account as the windows box
[10:26] <Coag> useradd account name
[10:26] <zbyte> is there a command to find out how long your ubuntu has been up and running?
[10:26] <Coag> useradd accountname
[10:26] <Coag> zbyte: uptime
[10:26] <Coag> Schalken: then passwd accountname
[10:27] <Healot> zbyte: "uptime"
[10:27] <Coag> then smbpasswd -a accountname
[10:27] <Coag> that shoudl get you going
[10:27] <Managu> gleesond: "sudo usermod -G audio -a [username] "
[10:27] <Schalken> Coag: whatdya mean 'the same account as the windows box', i didnt know the windows box has an account
[10:28] <shriphani> Healot, did you find something for me ?
[10:28] <Coag> then let's go with Administrator
[10:28] <Coag> you have to be logged in as some user in windows
[10:28] <Healot> shriphani: i just told you, scroll up... hum
[10:28] <Schalken> Coag: ...okay, you reckon that goes for old windows (ME) aswel?
[10:29] <Coag> absolutely
[10:29] <shriphani> zbyte uptime ?
[10:29] <zbyte> whats the minimum of ram you guys recommend to make ubuntu run at its very best
[10:30] <zcat[1] > Anything less than 256M is not good..
[10:30] <Healot> zbyte: for graphical UI, they recommend 128MB minimum
[10:30] <Managu> zbyte: 10 EB
[10:30] <Corey> would anyone like to help me install XGL ?
[10:30] <Coag> PORDO: your ip says you live rather close to me
[10:30] <shriphani> can you type it again Healot
[10:30] <Healot> for old-skewl text, 32MB is enough
[10:30] <zcat[1] > 128M is unusable!!
[10:30] <Managu> Corey: I think there's a whole channel devoted to that
[10:30] <zbyte> lol..i'm running it with 96mb of ram..and dual 300mhz processor
[10:30] <Healot> try "libdvdcss2" from http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/ >> no extra packages needed, shriphani sar
[10:30] <Corey> Whats it called ?
[10:31] <Schalken> Coag: 'sudo useradd Administrator'
[10:31] <Hit3k> Corey, #ubuntu-xgl
[10:31] <Schalken> Coag: 'sudo passwd Administrator'
[10:31] <zcat[1] > zbyte: textmode? not gnome I hope..
[10:31] <zbyte> Gnome baby..gnome
[10:31] <zcat[1] > Owww!!
[10:31] <PORDO> Coag i live at 205 chattanooga street, san francisco, ca
[10:31] <Coag> hmm
[10:31] <Hit3k> zcat[1] , its probably better than running KDE
[10:31] <Coag> not as close as I thought then
[10:31] <zbyte> i had it at 64mb ram..but man..it was laggy
[10:31] <PORDO> right by 24th and dolores.
[10:31] <PORDO> you're in the east bay?
[10:32] <gmc18> Morning Folk
[10:32] <Coag> I'm in fresn
[10:32] <Coag> o
[10:32] <PORDO> oh...sorry for you.
[10:32] <PORDO> i'm moving to portland soon actually.
[10:32] <Schalken> Goag: 'smbpasswd -a Administrator'
[10:32] <Coag> you should be >:|
[10:32] <Schalken> Coag*
[10:32] <Coag> take me with you
[10:32] <PORDO> better cost of living, cleaner, and hopefully better musical opportunities.
[10:32] <PORDO> lol.
[10:32] <PORDO> have you heard good things about portland ?
[10:32] <Coag> I've heard that it rains alot
[10:32] <Coag> which is enough for me
[10:33] <Schalken> Coag: do i need to restart the smb thingo
[10:33] <Schalken> ?
[10:33] <njan> PORDO, Portland is about the perfect place in the northwest
[10:33] <Coag> I don't think so Schalken
[10:33] <Coag> try mounting the share with that user and the pass you set under ME
[10:33] <nox-Hand> Hey
[10:34] <zbyte> i tried running a ubuntu live on my main system amd 64 3000..but it would crash..well at least xvideo failed..and would leave me in a black terminal prompt
[10:34] <nox-Hand> I am trying to install xgl/compiz
[10:34] <njan> PORDO, 2 hours drive in every direction and you have just about every climate the US has to offer.. desert, high desert, snowy mountains, temperate bits, the western coast around northern california..
[10:34] <zbyte> maybe cause i have dual monitors on that system?
[10:34] <nox-Hand> and.. I get... E. Could not find package compiz
[10:34] <nox-Hand> I am guessing I need some repo's opened?
[10:34] <njan> PORDO, Portland's a nice city, too; lots of interesting things in the area around it. :)
[10:35] <HymnToLife> !info compiz
[10:35] <kholerabbi> Could someone help me with installing the tar.gz of Gaim beta3 on ubuntu5.1?
[10:35] <HymnToLife> nox-Hand> that package doesn't eem to exist in the Ubuntu repos
[10:35] <Schalken> Coag: no wroky. i dont get how i can read and edit the windows computer's share but it cant read/edit mine. shouldnt it work both ways?
[10:36] <Coag> should could would but doesn't
[10:36] <Coag> blame windows and move one :D
[10:36] <Coag> on
[10:36] <zbyte> whats a terminal command to find out this box IP address
[10:36] <khermans_> zbyte, ifconfig
[10:36] <Coag> zbyte: ifconfig
[10:36] <khermans_> zbyte, but that's the local address -- you want your external IP too?
[10:37] <PORDO> funny line from a news piece i was just reading: He served spare ribs and ethanol, and put in a few video poker machines.
[10:37] <zbyte> no..local is what i need
[10:37] <Schalken> Coag: or i could just spend $150 AUD on windows and move on (from linux)
[10:37] <zbyte> just getting familiar with ubuntu/linux commands
[10:37] <zbyte> so i can rule the world
[10:37] <zbyte> hehe
[10:37] <Coag> I'm thinking of replacing my server's ubuntu install with gentoo
[10:37] <Coag> but I'm not sure if I have 4 days to spare right now
[10:37] <khermans_> Coag, lol
[10:37] <zbyte> i heard of gentoo..they have live cd right?
[10:38] <Coag> kind of?
[10:38] <khermans_> Coag, i always set up Ubuntu over Gentoo now, specifically for that reason
[10:38] <Coag> yes, i guess it is a live cd
[10:38] <Coag> khermans: I think ubuntu is great for desktops
[10:38] <khermans_> zbyte, yeah but the live cd is useless -- the power of gentoo is in the customization
[10:38] <Coag> I'm skimping on learning with it though because it has to many gui utils, I just use those instead
[10:38] <sigma> hello
[10:38] <khermans_> zbyte, you will learn a lot of linux internals setting it up
[10:39] <Coag> I can't set up a share without System>Admin>Shares
[10:39] <Coag> for example
[10:39] <khermans_> zbyte, and then you can move back to Ubuntu when you are done learning
[10:39] <khermans_> i used Gentoo for many years before Ubuntu was around
[10:39] <zcat[1] > I used redhat.
[10:39] <zbyte> kermans wow, you make me want to get a 2nd hard drive and dual it in this system
[10:39] <kholerabbi> I have downloaded gaim-2.0.0beta3.tar.gz, how do I install please?
[10:39] <zcat[1] > and before that slackware..
[10:40] <khermans_> kholerabbi, is it source code or binary?
[10:40] <Coag> slackware is silly
[10:40] <khermans_> never tried slack
[10:40] <gmc18> <- started with RH 5.0 way back when
[10:40] <Coag> I have this super old laptop, and I tried to get zipslack working on it
[10:40] <zbyte> i need better horsepower on this though..ubuntu on 96mb of ram and 300mhz processor is a bit laggy. but once the program opens, it goes smooth
[10:40] <khermans_> and gentoo was a waste of my admin time
[10:40] <gordonjcp> slackware is pretty good
[10:40] <Coag> I can't unzip the archive because there isn't enough ram
[10:40] <khermans_> zbyte, i suggest Xubuntu
[10:40] <gordonjcp> BSD init scripts > SysV init scripts
[10:41] <khermans_> zbyte, sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[10:41] <zcat[1] > zbyte: I suggest better hardware. I got mine (1G CPU and 256M ram) from a dumpster
[10:41] <kholerabbi> dunno, it's just got files inside it like any archive.??
[10:41] <gordonjcp> zcat[1] : nice!
[10:41] <zcat[1] > yeah..
[10:41] <zcat[1] > and cheap :)
[10:41] <zbyte> well my main machine is super power..but the live cd wouldnt run on it. it would crash in video
[10:42] <khermans_> khermans, tar zxvf gaim-2.0.0beta3.tar.gz
[10:42] <gordonjcp> zcat[1] : totally
[10:42] <cl205chie> hi
[10:42] <zbyte> i think its cause i have dual monitor setup
[10:42] <protocol1> I run a 800MHZ system with 256 rdram with dapper and it flies pretty good
[10:42] <protocol1> pentium 3
[10:42] <Coag> see and I got this 100mhz with 8megs of ram laptop for 30 bucks
[10:42] <khermans_> kholerabbi, tar zxvf gaim-2.0.0beta3.tar.gz
[10:42] <gordonjcp> zcat[1] : best I've managed was a PIII-450 left out on the pavement
[10:42] <gordonjcp> zcat[1] : although I did snag a Compaq PIII-600 server that was destined for the bin from work
[10:42] <peter_> Anyone used opteron? I'm getting a new Alienware workstation and putting dapper on it. Opteron 2.4Ghz, 2gig ram, 10 000 rpm 74GB system, 2X 250GB data, nvidia quad 1300, sound good?
[10:42] <feross> kholerabbi: hmm did you untar/unzip it?
[10:42] <zcat[1] > the ram is everything.. 300MHz and 256ram is better than 600MHz and 128M ram...
[10:42] <cl205chie> you need friend
[10:42] <khermans_> i have to say that Gnome 2.14 is much faster!
[10:43] <feross> peter_: I hate you
[10:43] <peter_> hehe
[10:43] <kholerabbi> Yes. I just found an install.txt, so I should be able to follow that, check back if I need any help, thanks :)
[10:43] <khermans_> peter_, sounds spensive
[10:43] <feross> ;/
[10:43] <protocol1> zcat[1] ,yeah....I agree.....Im thinking about ading another RDRAM chip in it
[10:43] <gordonjcp> khermans_: not just me then?
[10:43] <zbyte> this motherboard now..is a dual pentium II 300 processor setup. i installed that linux smp package to run both processors..dont know if its helping. but I think if I add 512mb ram to this..it would sweet
[10:43] <peter_> very spesive, been saving though, have to use up some of those tax benifits working from home!
[10:43] <khermans_> gordonjcp, nope
[10:44] <zcat[1] > That would be pretty reasonable ..
[10:44] <peter_> you guys had experience with opteron?
[10:44] <Schalken> be nice if windows networking in ubuntu was as easy as in windows
[10:44] <zbyte> question..does anyone ubuntu  default setup...the totem player never plays dvd..anyone had that prob?
[10:44] <khermans_> peter_, i have an amd64 CHIP MYSELF IN MY LAPTOP
[10:44] <gordonjcp> Schalken: what's hard about it?
[10:44] <nox-Hand> HymnToLife, Hm, I am following a guide though =| This guide:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[10:45] <peter_> khermans, u like it?
[10:45] <zcat[1] > I have a good 1.4GHz chip and 512M ram here too, but the only mobo I had that took them died :(
[10:45] <khermans_> peter_, you thinking of running 64-bit Ubuntu?
[10:45] <protocol1> I am just starting to get this cold and Im starting off with with large quantaties of OJ to try kill it
[10:45] <peter_> Schalken, u still yabbing on?
[10:45] <khermans_> peter_, beware of non-64 apps :-)
[10:45] <Schalken> peter_: i sure am :D
[10:45] <peter_> khermans, no, 32 bit, dont think 64 is reayd, apps as u say
[10:45] <Schalken> Schalken is on his high horse
[10:45] <feross> peter_: I have a Turion.. works great
[10:46] <Coag> well
[10:46] <kholerabbi> ok this gaim is a source, it basically says to use commands such 'make', 'make check' and 'make install'.. Is there anything specific I should know for ubuntu?
[10:46] <khermans_> i tried amd64 in gentoo w long time ago, and it was painful
[10:46] <Coag> I found my gentoo cd so I think I'll go for it
[10:46] <zbyte> anyone played a dvd movie with ubuntu?
[10:46] <khermans_> always getting segfaults and stuff not compiling
[10:46] <khermans_> zbyte, sure
[10:46] <zcat[1] > Schalken: wait three days for dapper. Right click a folder and share it, just like windows. Same for browsing the network.. it really is as easy (or easier!) than windows ..
[10:46] <khermans_> zbyte, I use VLC or Xine
[10:46] <peter_> sweet, thx for the info, back later
[10:46] <zbyte> ahh..let me try that
[10:46] <Coag> dapper is fully released in three days?
[10:47] <khermans_> Coag, yep
[10:47] <Coag> ooh exiciting
[10:47] <khermans_> zbyte, sudo aptitude install vlc xine-ui
[10:47] <zcat[1] > I'm running it now.. but the ops tell me off for telling people to run the RC :(
[10:47] <feross> kholerabbi: you might need to run ./configure before the make && make check && make install
[10:47] <liquidindian> I've had to reinstall ubuntu (I did something wrong with root) and am now back to breezy.  What's the best way to upgrade?
[10:48] <khermans_> zcat[1] , according to Ubuntu's site -- the RC is meant for everyone -- even production it appears
[10:48] <Schalken> zcat[1] : nah cuz the windows computer asks for a password when i try to open up ubuntu's share
[10:48] <Hisakasex> how can I define svn service in firehol?
[10:48] <Hisakasex> how can I define svn service in firehol.conf?
[10:48] <Coag> can I boot from a cd in grub?
[10:48] <protocol1> Coag, I installed it early
[10:48] <khermans_> liquidindian, change all instances of "breezy" to "dapper" in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:49] <zcat[1] > Schalken: if you had two windows computers with different login names, Windows would ask for a password too..
[10:49] <liquidindian> khermans, cheers!
[10:49] <khermans_> Coag, that's in your bios i believe
[10:49] <Coag> I know
[10:49] <Coag> it's enabled but not working
[10:49] <zbyte> kherman, with that command i get this:
[10:50] <Schalken> zcat[1] : then howcome i can open the windows computer's share without a password from the Ubuntu computer?
[10:50] <zbyte> Initializing package states... Done
[10:50] <zbyte> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[10:50] <zbyte> E: Unable to correct dependencies, some packages cannot be installed
[10:50] <zbyte> E: Unable to resolve some dependencies!
[10:50] <nox-Hand> HymnToLife, Those XGL packages are available in the Dapper repositories not the Breezy ones. I think some people have gotten the packages from the Dapper repositories on the Breezy machines, and been able to get it working. You should try and find those posts. Although that's probably a really bad idea to try.  || I just read that 0_O
[10:50] <Hisakasex> I need help with firehol
[10:50] <khermans_> liquidindian, and when that is done type: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[10:50] <zcat[1] > Schalken: you can? problem solved.. drop your file into the windows share from Linux then!
[10:50] <Quintok> schalken because it loads the share as read-only or it's fat32.
[10:50] <kholerabbi> A ran ./configure... It says there is no acceptable C compiler???
[10:50] <khermans_> Coag, you sure the disc is bootable and on good media?
[10:51] <Coag> yeah
[10:51] <Coag> it worked before
[10:51] <khermans_> kholerabbi, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[10:52] <Schalken> zcat[1]  so i cannot put a file on the Ubuntu computer from the windows one then?
[10:52] <Coag> thing is I don't have any blank cds, onyl dvds
[10:52] <zcat[1] > Schalken: I think you can access the share from windows as "\\machine:user\share" and enter your user password, that should give you full read/write access.. something like that.
[10:52] <Coag> :P
[10:52] <Schalken> zcat[1] : ill try that
[10:52] <zbyte> is synaptic package manager anygood?
[10:52] <khermans_> zbyte, did you do something to your apt sources?
[10:52] <khermans_> zbyte, yeah it should work
[10:52] <khermans_> i always use the command line myself though
[10:52] <kholerabbi> when running configure for gaimbeta3 I get "no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"... any help?
[10:53] <khermans_> kholerabbi, i just told you how to fix that
[10:53] <Coag> how does a lan boot work?
[10:53] <kholerabbi> Yeah :) sorry mist that thanks
[10:53] <sigma> i810 had a bug
[10:53] <sigma> dose fix it
[10:53] <khermans_> Coag, goes off and grabs a kernel via network
[10:54] <khermans_> using bootp i believe
[10:54] <zcat[1] > try PXE ..
[10:54] <nox-Hand> Anyone got XGL working?
[10:54] <feross> Coag: you have a bootp server with config files and setup for clinets. runs your OS off of the network. Pretty cool actually.
[10:54] <pansonic> what is a good FORUM SOFTWARE for ubuntu
[10:54] <khermans_> nox-Hand, yep
[10:54] <zcat[1] > I haven't used bootp since the old dumb xterm days!!
[10:54] <khermans_> pansonic, phpbb ?
[10:54] <nox-Hand> khermans, On stable?
[10:54] <twager> Any help with seti ?
[10:54] <Quintok> pansonic, what do you mean forum software?
[10:54] <khermans_> nox-Hand, it only works on Dapper
[10:54] <Coag> damn, not what I'm looking for then
[10:55] <feross> Coag: you can grab something like knoppix cluster boot cd and boot your server then the clients from network pick up that server.
[10:55] <Hisakasex> I am trying to define a new service in firehol.conf like this: server_svn_ports="tcp/3690"
[10:55] <pansonic> i want to set a discussion forum
[10:55] <khermans_> nox-Hand, join #ubuntu-xgl
[10:55] <nox-Hand> ok
[10:55] <Quintok> pansonic, you'll want apache, mysql, php4 and phpbb.
[10:55] <Coag> I need a way to boot the gentoo install disc without being able to burn a new copy
[10:55] <Hisakasex> but it does not work
[10:55] <pansonic> through synaptic?
[10:55] <khermans_> pansonic, phpbb wil work
[10:55] <Schalken> zcat[1] : nah the "\\machine:user\share" format doesnt work.
[10:56] <khermans_> pansonic, sudo aptitude install phpbb2
[10:56] <nox-Hand> khermans, Can one upgrade to Dapper without formatting hdd? I mean, like just a reinstall of packages, but you don't lose your configs, files etc
[10:56] <Schalken> zcat[1] : is there a way I can find what the user is on the windows computer?
[10:56] <pansonic> thanks guys
[10:56] <pansonic> send virtual case of beer
[10:56] <khermans_> nox-Hand, yes
[10:56] <khermans_> nox-Hand, just change all instances of "breezy" to "dapper" in the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:56] <Hisakasex> help please
[10:57] <Coag> maybe my 2005.1 gentoo installer cd will work...
[10:57] <khermans_> Coag, you bios is all that will help you there
[10:57] <Coag> I know
[10:57] <liquidindian> khermans, Can I safely remove the CDRom repository?
[10:57] <Coag> something's gotta be wrong with that cd
[10:58] <khermans_> liquidindian, yup
[10:58] <nox-Hand> khermans, Is that safe to do?
[10:58] <nox-Hand> Then do adept-update?
[10:58] <Blippe> liquidindian, yes, that is safe
[10:58] <Hisakasex> could someone help with firehol.conf?
[10:58] <liquidindian> And then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:58] <Quintok> nox-Hand, yes it's safe.  enjoy the download though lol
[10:58] <khermans_> nox-Hand, i never used adept -- but try
[10:58] <nox-Hand> Quintok, A few hundred downloads?
[10:59] <nox-Hand> khermans, Just Kubuntu version of Synaptic
[10:59] <Quintok> nox-Hand, it's not small
[10:59] <Coag> aha this cd worked!
[10:59] <Coag> ok
[10:59] <nox-Hand> Hey, Kubuntu uses same repo's as Ubuntu?
[10:59] <khermans_> liquidindian, sudo aptitude update ... upgrade .. dist-upgrade
[10:59] <nox-Hand> Quintok, I know XD
[10:59] <Quintok> nox-Hand, yes it uses the same.
[10:59] <nox-Hand> Right! I shall let it rip ;)
[10:59] <khermans_> Coag, nice :-)
[10:59] <nox-Hand> Where would I find the dapper repo list?
[10:59] <inetd> will SATAI drive work on a SATAII controller?
[10:59] <khermans_> nox-Hand, yes
[11:00] <khermans_> nox-Hand, the major difference is the package kubuntu-desktop, rather than ubuntu-desktop
[11:00] <nox-Hand> I sure hope Dapper is good then ^^
[11:00] <khermans_> nox-Hand, /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:00] <nox-Hand> khermans, I never use KDE, so meh
[11:00] <nox-Hand> khermans, Yeah, but where would I find the dapper version?
[11:00] <khermans_> nox-Hand, dapper version of what?
[11:00] <Blippe> nox-Hand, the only difference between xubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu and ubuntu is which packages as is installed on a fresh install... later on you could mesh all you like
[11:01] <nox-Hand> Blippe, Right
[11:01] <zbyte> khermans_ i try adding vlc thru synaptic package manager, i get this: the following packages have unresolvable dependecies. make sure that all required repositories are added and enabled in the preferences
[11:01] <nox-Hand> khermans, I am going to upgrade from Breezy to Dapper
[11:01] <khermans_> nox-Hand, yeah i run an Ubuntu lab at UMass Amherst sponsored by IBM, and we have all the ubuntu-desktop packages installed
[11:01] <nox-Hand> I need repo upgrade or something
[11:01] <nox-Hand> khermans, Okay
[11:02] <khermans_> zbyte, i already have it installed
[11:02] <Blippe> nox-Hand, change all the instances of breezy to dapper in your /etc/apt/sources.list or simpler rund auto-update with the switch -d
[11:02] <Schalken> does anyone know what the user name is on a windows computer configured without multiple users?
[11:02] <nox-Hand> Blippe, I can just write auto-update -d?
[11:02] <khermans_> Schalken, Administrator ?
[11:02] <Blippe> nox-Hand,  gksudo "update-manager -d"
[11:02] <kholerabbi> While running configure for gaimbeta3 I get "checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is require d for intltool"... Could anyone help with this?
[11:03] <Corey> ##xgl
[11:03] <Corey> um
[11:03] <Corey> hmm
[11:03] <nox-Hand> Schalken, Whatever chosen in the install. Anywho, what channel do you think you are in?
[11:03] <nox-Hand> ;)
[11:03] <Blippe> nox-Hand, or wait two days
[11:03] <Corey> I tried to install XGL
[11:03] <nox-Hand> Blippe, Cheers =)
[11:03] <khermans_> kholerabbi, is this a perl modules?
[11:03] <sigma> what is the mean with -d in the " gksudo "update-manager -d""
[11:03] <inetd> nobody knows if SATAI drive works on SATAII controller?
[11:03] <Corey> can somebody gvive me the XGL chat
[11:03] <nox-Hand> Blippe, What'll the big difference be?
[11:03] <SniZ> hi
[11:03] <sigma> dapper ?
[11:03] <kholerabbi> Yes, the last line before the error was perl
[11:03] <khermans_> kholerabbi, sudo cpan
[11:03] <Blippe> sigma, looking for beta releases (dapper) too
[11:04] <khermans_> kholerabbi, follow the instructions and msg me back
[11:04] <SniZ> i found bug with netstat applet(where two monitors)
[11:04] <Corey> xgl chat ??
[11:04] <sigma> thx
[11:04] <nox-Hand> Blippe, I mean, just a few packages change, wont it?
[11:04] <khermans_> SniZ, file it!
[11:04] <kholerabbi> cheers
[11:04] <SniZ> and when recieving data - monitor jumps...
[11:04] <Blippe> nox-Hand, tons of packages is updated... it will probably take a while
[11:05] <nox-Hand> Blippe, Yes, but if I use the Dapper Beta now, and the real comes out in two days, there won't be that much more to update, will there? Since I updated all from BETA?
[11:05] <kholerabbi> khermans, it asks whether to manually configure?
[11:05] <nox-Hand> I mean, can't I just as well start now?
[11:05] <khermans_> kholerabbi, just keep hitting ENTER
[11:06] <Blippe> nox-Hand, yeah, thats true
[11:06] <kholerabbi> k
[11:06] <nox-Hand> So, no reason why not? ;)
[11:07] <nox-Hand> Blippe, Yes or no? I got time to wait, I am reading for exams, so the update won't harm me much ^^
[11:08] <Hit3k> Where do I add a line to configure my card automatically on boot?
[11:08] <khermans_> Hit3k, what kind of card?
[11:08] <Blippe> nox-Hand, that is up to you, if you wanna try to run a beta for two days.. nothing much would change these last two days, maybe another tiny change in openoffice or something of the like...
[11:08] <khermans_> Hit3k, ethernet?
[11:09] <maikol> wireless
[11:09] <Coag> is there any reason that my boot partition needs to be ext2 rather than ext3?
[11:09] <Hit3k> khermans, wireless
[11:09] <crazy_penguin> Coag: no reason
[11:10] <void^> Coag: no. however, there's no advantage to ext3 over ext2 for a boot partition. just wasting a little space.
[11:10] <Coag> the gentoo guide seems to like to use that is why I'm asking
[11:10] <khermans_> Coag, yes but not so much any more
[11:10] <jenda> Is there a graphical-calculator type program for Ubuntu? (I tell it to draw sin x and x and it does?)
[11:11] <Anusien> There's a gnu program that can do that, maybe gcalc or graph or something
[11:11] <Hit3k> jenda, you can change the type of calculator on ubuntu to Scientific
[11:11] <jenda> Hit3k: that won't draw.
[11:11] <khermans_> jenda, i think maxima will work
[11:11] <Corey> hey guys i got this error
[11:12] <khermans_> jenda, sudo aptitude install xmaxima
[11:12] <Corey>  tar -xjvf xgl-svn_100.tar.bz2
[11:12] <Corey> tar: xgl-svn_100.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[11:12] <Corey> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[11:12] <Corey> tar: Child returned status 2
[11:12] <Corey> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:12] <Hit3k> khermans_, Its a wireless card i set off the wrong highlights
[11:12] <nox-Hand> Blippe, Fine, I shall :)
[11:12] <jenda> khermans: thanks
[11:12] <jenda> Corey: use the pastebin!
[11:12] <khermans_> jenda, but i think octave is better
[11:12] <Corey> sorry you know the problem thoe ?
[11:12] <jenda> OK
[11:12] <khermans_> jenda, sudo aptitude install octave
[11:12] <Blippe> jenda, you could go for the overkill: octave no nice graphical interface though
[11:12] <jenda> khermans: thx ;)
[11:12] <jenda> I don't mind lack of nice GUIs
[11:13] <Corey> anybody know how to fix my problem ?
[11:13] <khermans_> Hit3k, highlights
[11:13] <khermans_> ?
[11:13] <Hit3k> you asked what kind of card it was and i did khermans instead of khermans_
[11:13] <jenda> Corey: it seems the file doesn't exist.
[11:13] <nox-Hand> Blippe, The Ubuntu team is proud to announce a Release Candidate of
[11:13] <nox-Hand> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. <-- That upgrade in that gui thing, yeah?
[11:14] <Blippe> Corey, seems you don't have the file xgl-svn_100.tar.bz2 (check if you typed it right and that it has all lowercase letters, linux does care about lowercase characters)
[11:14] <khermans_> do it!
[11:14] <Corey> im trying a differerent download :)
[11:14] <jenda> I can't wait till the final release ;)
[11:14] <MuelliSoft> hi. I think I broke my ubuntu :( apt-get update generates a bunch of errors :-( eg: 99% [7 Packages bzip2 0]  [6 Release gpgv 8539]  [Waiting for headers]  [Waiting fbzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[11:14] <Blippe> nox-Hand, pretty much!
[11:15] <Blippe> MuelliSoft, you running dapper or breezy?
[11:15] <khermans_> Hit3k, try /etc/network/interfaces
[11:15] <nox-Hand> Blippe, =D
[11:15] <MuelliSoft> Blippe: dapper. But I think it's not about that.. /var/lib/apt/lists is empty...
[11:16] <khermans_> ill brb, gotta reboot
[11:16] <kholerabbi> kermans: it asks me to select as many urls as I like (by number), but lists only.. So I type 1, and hit enter, and then it says "Enter another URL or RETURN to quit: [] "
[11:16] <kholerabbi> (lists only one url)
[11:16] <Corey> how do I create a CVS password ?
[11:17] <khermans_> kholerabbi, you should enter about 3-5 different numbers with spaces in between
[11:17] <Blippe> MuelliSoft, what about your sources.list ?
[11:17] <kholerabbi> Just random numbers?
[11:17] <Corey> how do I create a CVS password ?
[11:17] <khermans_> khermans, no you hit SPACE ENTER to see the list above
[11:17] <khermans_> kholerabbi, i think you already went by that step
[11:17] <khermans_> kholerabbi, you only entered one number
[11:17] <khermans_> khermans, hopefully youll be ok
[11:18] <khermans_> kholerabbi, keep going
[11:18] <MuelliSoft> Blippe: what do you mean? shall I nopaste it?
[11:18] <kholerabbi> Ummm it seem to have quit? Should I just run it again?
[11:18] <khermans_> kholerabbi, i'll brb, rbooting
[11:18] <Corey> How do you create A CVS password
[11:18] <kholerabbi> ok
[11:18] <Corey> .cvpassword ?
[11:19] <Corey> .cvspass
[11:19] <nox-Hand> Cool, 54 packages will be removed, 254 installed and 1046 upgraded :P
[11:19] <nox-Hand> 746 mb downloads ^^
[11:19] <nox-Hand> This'll take a day :P
[11:19] <Quintok> nox-Hand, heh told you
[11:19] <nox-Hand> Quintok, Meh, I have time ;)
[11:20] <nox-Hand> All I need right now is irc and nano, so I can write some exam notes :P
[11:20] <Quintok> exam notes in nano? hardcore.
[11:20] <Flannel> nox-Hand: so, don't upgrade/update?
[11:20] <MuelliSoft> Blippe: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Hfzpgf37.html
[11:20] <nox-Hand> Flannel, Why not?
[11:21] <jenda> khermans: ok, but maxima nor octave will draw a graph of a function.
[11:21] <jenda> khermans: er... neither will, I mean.
[11:21] <Flannel> nox-Hand: well, with the "all I need" comment, you made it seem like you were pressed for time, etc.
[11:21] <nox-Hand> Flannel, I am, so this'll make me not use PC that much ;)
[11:22] <nox-Hand> So, I should be going, this being on lots of channels is cramping my exam prep :P
[11:22] <liquidindian> nox-Hand, I'm doing the same, but have my nifty Japanese connection.
[11:22] <liquidindian> nox-Hand, upgrading, that is.
[11:22] <nox-Hand> liquidindian, I am guessing that's a few mbit?
[11:22] <nox-Hand> I am downloading @ 106 kb/s, will take two hours till I get to the compiling
[11:23] <liquidindian> nox-Hand, 50mbps at the most.
[11:23] <Flannel> nox-Hand: no compiling.  just installing.
[11:23] <nox-Hand> Flannel, Okay then
[11:23] <nox-Hand> I am so used to Gentoo ^^
[11:23] <liquidindian> I'm going to miss it when I go home.
[11:24] <khermans_> back
[11:25] <nox-Hand> Right, bbl
[11:25] <kholerabbi> k, I ran cpan kept hitting enter, I type in 1, It asks me to type in another url or quit.. and then it quits after a while anyway.. So should I just re-run it?
[11:26] <mikomiko_> how do i "bind a key"
[11:26] <khermans_> kholerabbi, yeah just dont enter an URL there
[11:26] <khermans_> mikomiko_, Systen->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[11:26] <kholerabbi> leave it blank?
[11:26] <khermans_> yes
[11:27] <gnube> I cannot start my MySQL server, my error message is;
[11:27] <gnube> 060529 11:26:03 Fatal error: Can't open privilege tables: Can't find file: './mysql/host.frm' (errno: 13)
[11:27] <gnube> does anyone have any idea about that?
[11:27] <gnube> I thought it might be permissions but that does nto seem to help
[11:28] <osfameron> anyone know if there is an equivalent to MacOSX's QuickSilver for Gnome ?
[11:29] <kmilitzer> Can someone shed some light on the configuration of the runlevels of 6.06 LTS? I used debian till now and always used the file-rc package and runlevel.conf to set which services start in which runlevel. In ubuntu there seems only to be the possibility to set symlinks ... not something I like to do very much ...
[11:29] <mikomiko_> khermans,  it shows the current shortcuts but how do i bind a new shortcut to /usr/bin/3ddesk
[11:29] <glick> !flash
[11:29] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:29] <kholerabbi> If I hit enter there it just asks "(1) http://cpan.mirrors.ilisys.com.au ^p Select as many URLs as you like (by number), put them on one line, separated by blanks, e.g. '1 4 5' [] " again?
[11:30] <osfameron> kholerabbi: you could just use the main cpan site
[11:30] <ppcguy> hey all.. Need help w/ Dapper.. what's the channel again? thx
[11:30] <osfameron> as it automatically redirects you to a reasonable mirror
[11:30] <Schalken> uhm, is it possible to revert my smb.conf file?
[11:30] <khermans_> osfameron, sudo aptitude install katapult
[11:30] <lilo_booter> anyone running dapper and willing to test some packages and a repo I've created? it's a test case for the jahshaka project
[11:30] <Flannel> !dapper
[11:30] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[11:31] <lilo_booter> ah - thanks Flannel
[11:31] <osfameron> khermans_: ok, so is katapult pretty functional on gnome?  (Being a KDE thing)
[11:31] <cam> is there a tool to burn cd/dvd +-r/+-rw with multisession support ?
[11:31] <khermans_> kholerabbi, make it 1 2 3 4 5
[11:31] <khermans_> osfameron, appears to be
[11:31] <osfameron> cool, ta
[11:31] <khermans_> osfameron, i use things like k3b in Gnome just fine
[11:31] <khermans_> osfameron, it just means you have to get the kde3libs
[11:31] <Flannel> osfameron: gnome-look.org and stuff for gnome themes (or whatever other gnome theme websites there are)
[11:31] <mikomiko_> how do i "bind a key"
[11:32] <kholerabbi> OK, now its acting as a cpan terminal "cpan> [] ".. what do I do now?
[11:32] <osfameron> khermans_: aha, I don't have it in package list, I really need to upgrade from hoary... :-(
[11:32] <osfameron> Flannel: thanks
[11:32] <khermans_> kholerabbi, install XML::Parser
[11:32] <kholerabbi> "install XML::Parser" type that? ok
[11:32] <khermans_> osfameron, get Dapper on yer box
[11:33] <khermans_> mikomiko_, xmodmap
[11:33] <Schalken> is there a way i can revert my smb.conf file?
[11:33] <rehdon> Hi all!
[11:33] <Flannel> osfameron: googling seems to say that there is something just like what you're looking for on digg the other day.  But, I'm sure there's better things out there.  google for gnome OSX.  I'm sure you'll find something.
[11:33] <khermans_> Schalken, did you back it up?
[11:33] <rehdon> If you want to post/send the Short test results (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Short), where are you supposed to send them???
[11:33] <Schalken> khermans_: ....no. :(
[11:33] <osfameron> khermans_: yeah, I tried to back up my lappie at weekend, only for some reason rsync was trying to copy everything, even files I'd already rsynced across, so I need to fix my backup strategy first
[11:34] <kholerabbi> OK run install XML::Parser, thats all?
[11:34] <khermans_> osfameron, use SSH to backup your data
[11:34] <Flannel> rehdon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Introduction  And thanks for testing!
[11:34] <Schalken> uhm, is that all?
[11:34] <khermans_> kholerabbi, should be
[11:35] <khermans_> kholerabbi, quit
[11:35] <mikomiko_> can you give me a sample command khermans
[11:35] <mikomiko_> i want to bind " /usr/bin/3ddesk " to a key
[11:35] <osfameron> khermans_: to my hard drive?
[11:36] <khermans_> osfameron, i mean if you want to back something up to remote machine
[11:36] <rehdon> Flannel: so basically I fill bug entries wrt things going wrong, but there's no need to send a full narrative? Thx
[11:36] <Flannel> khermans_: he's going to need rsynch, not ssh.  for long term data duplication, etc.
[11:37] <osfameron> I tried rsync -avz, which as far as I can see ought to enable -t to check timestamps
[11:37] <holycow> offtopic, anyone use astaro firewall by chance?  just shooting in the dark here
[11:37] <osfameron> but it's copying everything across, even stuff with the same timestamp (which I copied the first time I rsync'ed)
[11:37] <khermans_> Flannel, i just have tar/bz2 stuff from my hdd and store over SSH to remote
[11:38] <Flannel> rehdon: right.  If things go correctly, we don't need to know about it.  Not that we don't care, of course. ;)
[11:38] <kholerabbi> Hmmmm.. I still get in the configure "configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool"...hmm
[11:38] <Flannel> khermans_: right, but if he wants to synch stuff, not "backup" stuff, he's going to need more than just zipping and writing.
[11:38] <rehdon> Flannel: ok, thanks
[11:39] <khermans_> Flannel, i didnt know he was syncing
[11:39] <osfameron> fair enough, I wasn't very explicit
[11:39] <mikomiko_> i want to bind " /usr/bin/3ddesk " to a key
[11:39] <mikomiko_> someone help me by giving sample command
[11:39] <khermans_> kholerabbi, run cpan as your user and install it again
[11:39] <khermans_> kholerabbi, no sudo
[11:39] <osfameron> yeah, syncing, just because it seems like the right thing to do.  Though I could just zip up my svn repo, I want to sync everything across really
[11:40] <kholerabbi> ok, just cpan
[11:40] <khermans_> mikomiko_, i have used xmodmap -- but forget how to do it again
[11:40] <Flannel> osfameron: right, rsynch is the way to go.  i just don't know what your problem might be ;)
[11:40] <khermans_> mikomiko_, man xmodmap
[11:40] <quix> Hi
[11:40] <Flannel> mikomiko_: I believe gnome has a menu item for it, if you'd rather do it a GUI way.
[11:40] <kholerabbi> It says (after a while) permission is denied
[11:41] <quix> can anyone tell me from where to download "ubuntu HP laptop version" ???
[11:41] <quix> plz!
[11:41] <Flannel> quix: there isn't one.  Or rather, not a special version for HPs, nor laptops.  So, just the same download as the rest of them.
[11:41] <gnube> quix There is no laptop version
[11:41] <Flannel> quix: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[11:42] <osfameron> I thought HP had sponsored something or other?
[11:42] <quix> dear people , logo to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/derivatives/hp
[11:42] <quix> and you'll see it there , but the link is not working 404
[11:43] <quix> did anyone see it?
[11:43] <osfameron> yeah, that's the one.  Shame no dv1000 series support, though ubuntu handles that pretty well anyway
[11:43] <cam> what soft to use to burn iso, data cd under ubuntu ?
[11:43] <khermans_> kholerabbi, sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME/.cpan
[11:43] <ppcguy> hey all w/ dapper what is the easiest way to write to NTFS partitions?
[11:43] <khermans_> cam, gnomebaker or k3b
[11:44] <HymnToLife> ppcguy> there in't one
[11:44] <Flannel> ppcguy: there is no way to write to an NTFS partition.
[11:44] <HymnToLife> and I don't think thre will be any time soon
[11:44] <Flannel> HymnToLife: edgy might have it, actually.
[11:44] <freakabcd> HymnToLife, sure there is.
[11:44] <freakabcd> only thing is its experimental and will prolly break things
[11:44] <ppcguy> thought there was a third party work going on that made it workable
[11:44] <cam> khermans, tx
[11:45] <HymnToLife> we'll see
[11:45] <Flannel> freakabcd: usually people wants things that work ;)
[11:45] <HymnToLife> I'm not trusting Microsoft much on this
[11:45] <freakabcd> heh :)
[11:45] <khermans_> ppcguy, captive
[11:45] <HymnToLife> they might have added weird things to it
[11:45] <kholerabbi> I tried ran cpan again, and install XML::Parser, and got several errors, perhaps there is another way to install it?
[11:45] <ppcguy> hmm was wonderin about that
[11:45] <khermans_> ppcguy, http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[11:45] <khermans_> kholerabbi, why are you installing from source -- no binary?
[11:45] <ppcguy> thanks much khermans_
[11:46] <minimec> Hi. I miss the Helvetica Font in Ubuntu Dapper. I found a iso-coded version in the xfont-100 and xfont-75 packages. Unfortunally I am on UTF now. So I need Helvetica in UTF-8. Can you help me?
[11:46] <Flannel> !dapper
[11:46] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[11:46] <khermans_> ppcguy, no prob
[11:46] <quix> does anyone have ATI Xpress 200m on laptop???
[11:46] <kholerabbi> I don't think there was a binary...
[11:46] <quix> does anyone have ATI Xpress 200m on laptop, and working ubuntu on it???
[11:46] <minimec> Flannel: THX
[11:46] <khermans_> kholerabbi, is this on Dapper?
[11:47] <khermans_> http://www.debuntu.org/2006/04/19/31-gaim-200beta3-deb-package-for-ubuntu-dapper
[11:47] <kholerabbi> No breezy 5.1
[11:47] <jrsims> hey, when is dapper coming out?
[11:47] <quix> people! does anyone have ATI Xpress 200m on laptop, and working ubuntu on it???
[11:47] <crimsun> jrsims: 1 june.
[11:48] <babo> So I'm following the man page here, but my tar function won't work for some reason ...
[11:48] <babo>  tar -cvvf --recursion folder.tar /var/www/folder
[11:48] <jrsims> sweet jesus.
[11:48] <kholerabbi> take a look at the downloads, perhaps theres a better file: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=235&package_id=253&release_id=405479
[11:48] <jrsims> so, can I install gnome 2.14 on breezy?
[11:48] <babo> gives me an empty folder.tar, but it seems to run fine ...
[11:48] <Flannel> jrsims: why not just wait?  and no.
[11:48] <visik7> jrsims: compiling it maybe
[11:48] <crimsun> jrsims: if you wish to do it yourself, sure.
[11:48] <visik7> jrsims: upgrade to dapper
[11:48] <khermans_> jrsims, with Linux you can do anything you want
[11:48] <khermans_> jrsims, but some things are not so wise ;)
[11:49] <visik7> dapper is faster better and more stable of breezy
[11:49] <jrsims> how would I upgrade to dapper?
[11:49] <osfameron> gah, Rhythm Box can't edit multiple song properties
[11:49] <Flannel> !tell jrsims about upgrade
[11:49] <quix> people! does anyone have ATI Xpress 200m on laptop, and working ubuntu on it??? please, need some advise
[11:49] <Flannel> quix: if no one replies, that's a negative.
[11:49] <khermans_> osfameron, sudo aptitude install cowbell
[11:49] <quix> :(
[11:49] <visik7> jrsims: replace all breezy string in the /etc/apt/sources.list with dapper save and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:49] <SurfnKid> grr these lm-sensors are going to be a headache
[11:50] <jrsims> visik7: will this break anything?
[11:50] <SurfnKid> anyone have them installed on a dell laptop?
[11:50] <visik7> jrsims: if u haven't added any external packages or repo no
[11:50] <osfameron> khermans_: dammit, I guess that's another one that will wait till I upgrade ;-)
[11:50] <jrsims> visik7: I just finished installing breezy, ran the upddates, and installed my nvidia driver.
[11:51] <jrsims> visik7: like 10 minutes ago
[11:51] <SurfnKid> oh well
[11:51] <khermans_> kholerabbi, http://blog.ealden.net/installing-gaim-2-beta/
[11:51] <visik7> jrsims: so better you download the dapper rc cd and install from scratch with it
[11:51] <SurfnKid> !lm-sensors
[11:51] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid
[11:51] <visik7> more clean
[11:51] <kholerabbi> thanks
[11:51] <Flannel> visik7: why? no.  He needn't do that.
[11:51] <jrsims> visik7: ah crap
[11:52] <Flannel> jrsims: nah, just upgrade.  It's fine.
[11:52] <visik7> ok upgrade
[11:52] <S0Y0> espaol??
[11:52] <Flannel> jrsims: as long as you haven't installed anything without going through apt/(whatever frontend), you're good
[11:52] <Flannel> !es
[11:52] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:53] <Flannel> jrsims: of course, it is still beta software.  So, you may wish to hold off until it's finalized.
[11:53] <jrsims> Flannel: I did install the proprietary nvidia driver
[11:53] <khermans_> kholerabbi, http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://cypherbios.org/wp/archives/11&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dgaim%2Bbeta3%2Bbreezy%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:unofficial%26sa%3DG
[11:53] <Flannel> jrsims: through the repositories?
[11:54] <jrsims> Flannel: no, I downloaded it fron nvidia's site
[11:54] <Flannel> jrsims: oh, why not just use the one in the repositories?
[11:54] <jrsims> Flannel: it was giving me problems
[11:54] <Flannel> jrsims: fair enough.  How did you install it?
[11:54] <quix> my config is amd64 4000+,2GB RAM, ATI Xpress 200m 128MB dedicated vram, X freezes on startup, can any one help me??
[11:54] <osfameron> !dapper
[11:54] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[11:55] <jrsims> Flannel: had to also install make, gcc 3.4, the kernel source tree, and then the install compiled a kernel module from that.
[11:55] <SurfnKid> how do you run a program on a terminal
[11:55] <khermans_> quix, i saw this before
[11:55] <SurfnKid> like mkdev.sh
[11:56] <HymnToLife> SurfnKid> ./mkdev.sh
[11:56] <Terminus> SurfnKid: if it's a shell script like that, "sh mkdev.sh"
[11:56] <khermans_> quix, tell me what this produces --> grep -i "vesa" /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:56] <SurfnKid> ah thx
[11:56] <Terminus> SurfnKid: or if it's executable, go with HymnToLife's solution. "chmod +x foo" will make foo executable.
[11:57] <SurfnKid> right i just need to get over the perm. denied screen
[11:57] <tubbie> hello
[11:57] <SurfnKid> it ran.. ok thanx.. now to the next step
[11:57] <tubbie> is there a download tool that integrate with firefox? I want to replace the download tool Firefox comes with. it sucks. whenever I donwload big files, it won't resume
[11:58] <khermans_> tubbie, you ever try wget -c ?
[11:58] <tubbie> khermans, I want a gui tool to automaticlaly handle the download :\
[11:58] <khermans_> tubbie, i always tend to use wget or large files
[11:58] <tubbie> I don't want to start terminal to dl a file :\
[11:59] <kholerabbi> Thanks, I don't seem to be able to follow that last one
[11:59] <tubbie> maybe one with filter. if I dl mp3, then put it in /dirmp3 etc etc
[11:59] <khermans_> tubbie, try FlashGot
[12:00] <khermans_> kholerabbi, in any event -- dont compile from source if you are not familiar and dont have to...just use the binaries (DEB)
[12:00] <khermans_> tubbie, http://www.flashgot.net/whats
[12:01] <tubbie> thz khermans
[12:01] <tubbie> No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[12:01] <tubbie> how do I run mkdev?
[12:01] <visik7> tubbie: same for me on dapper
[12:01] <visik7> tubbie: are you using breezy ?
[12:01] <khermans_> tubbie, http://downloads.mozdev.org/dmextension/downloadmgr_071.xpi
[12:01] <tubbie> dapper
[12:02] <tubbie> ty :)
[12:02] <void^> i doubt you need something like mkdev. just load the modules.
[12:03] <SurfnKid> ok this sensor thing didnt work
[12:03] <tubbie> I got it owrking once
[12:03] <tubbie> can't remember how
[12:03] <SurfnKid> the sensors?
[12:03] <tubbie> yea
[12:03] <tubbie> all of them
[12:03] <tubbie> 2 fans and cpu temp
[12:03] <SurfnKid> yes exactly
[12:04] <khermans_> Key Binding to launch Apps: http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/hacks.html?id=14
[12:05] <tubbie> void^, cd /dev
[12:05] <tubbie> sudo ./MAKEDEV i2c
[12:05] <jikbag> is dapper like waay totally awsomely better than hoary?
[12:05] <tubbie> sudo modprobe i2c-dev
[12:05] <tubbie> SurfnKid, try those commands
[12:05] <SurfnKid> im on it
[12:05] <khermans_> jikbag, oh yeah
[12:06] <SurfnKid> whats it supposed to say
[12:06] <tubbie> run sensors-dectect with sudo
[12:06] <SurfnKid> ok
[12:07] <tubbie> should work
[12:07] <jikbag> khermans:
[12:07] <jikbag> thanks
[12:07] <khermans_> jikbag, no prob
[12:07] <tubbie> just keep pressing enter
[12:07] <quix> hi
[12:07] <jikbag> lol
[12:07] <jikbag> hi
[12:07] <quix> im back again
[12:07] <jikbag> tubbie: there we go
[12:07] <tubbie> hi
[12:08] <khermans_> quix, did you get it working/
[12:08] <musicman> hi I'm having trouble with apt-get
[12:08] <khermans_> quix, make sure you are running fglrx driver and not vesa
[12:08] <crazy_penguin> what command i use wit apt to download and rebuild a package?
[12:08] <jikbag> tubbie: oh, i guess that pressing enter comment wasn't directed at me
[12:08] <ash|ubuntu> hi! How can i install *.run files?
[12:08] <quix> khermans_ can you repeat the comand
[12:08] <ash|ubuntu> <- new at linux
[12:08] <khermans_> grep -i "vesa" /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:08] <tubbie> jikbag, nope
[12:08] <tubbie> :P
[12:08] <musicman> I've found a lot of howtos that talk about apt-get install msttcorefonts
[12:08] <khermans_> ash|ubuntu, sh *.run
[12:08] <mutante> ash|ubuntu: a file extension alone doesnt say much on Linux
[12:08] <quix> when i'm doing fglrx it freezes on X start
[12:08] <musicman> but when I do it, I get "E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate"
[12:09] <musicman> any ideas?
[12:09] <mutante> ash|ubuntu: use "type" or "file" to find out what it is
[12:09] <maikol> !apt
[12:09] <ubotu> hmm... apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[12:09] <musicman> I'm fully using up to date dapper
[12:09] <ash|ubuntu> k
[12:09] <khermans_> quix, sudo dpkg-recoonfigure xserver-xorg
[12:09] <thementor> hello channel
[12:10] <thementor> im a newbie..it is better to start wid ubuntu
[12:10] <musicman> hi thementor
[12:10] <musicman> how can we help?
[12:11] <quix> khermans_ can we talk in pm
[12:11] <quix> ?
[12:11] <khermans_> k
[12:12] <quix> ok here is the story, i did all ati proprietary driver installation steps
[12:12] <thementor> musicman:is it best to start with ubuntu
[12:12] <Jimmey__> Ho wcan I check what processes start at boot? I don't want the update notifier to run.
[12:12] <quix> and when i was to compile fglrx kernel compilation
[12:12] <thementor> musicman:needed ur suggestion
[12:13] <Jimmey__> thementor, can I help?
[12:13] <musicman> I think it's a good start
[12:13] <musicman> I quite like ubuntu
[12:13] <adu> me2
[12:13] <kestas> so do I! we have so much in common
[12:13] <paf> #hal
[12:13] <kestas> oh wait we're in a ubuntu chan
[12:13] <musicman> thementor: I've been using for a few years , and it's the easiest, with the best support
[12:13] <adu> i wish ubuntu worked on old macs
[12:13] <khermans_> quix, you dont need to compile it
[12:14] <adu> kestas: lol
[12:14] <kestas> musicman: a few years?
[12:14] <khermans_> quix, it is already done for you
[12:14] <thementor> musicman:is it based on debian?>
[12:14] <musicman> yes
[12:14] <quix> look
[12:14] <kestas> musicman: are you talking about linux or ubuntu specifically?
[12:14] <musicman> I've been using _linux_ for a few years
[12:14] <kestas> k
[12:14] <FatalCure> !oldworld
[12:14] <kestas> just checking ;p
[12:14] <ubotu> oldworld is, like, to install on an old world powermac, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[12:14] <musicman> I've gone through suse and debian
[12:14] <adu> i've only used ubuntu liveCD, but i love it just the same :)
[12:14] <musicman> sorry kestas
[12:15] <thementor> musicman:y is it not a good idea to start wid debian
[12:15] <Jimmey__> adu, I remember a period when I was too scared to install, and I relied on the liveCD :P
[12:15] <thementor> musicman:thin its rock solid?
[12:15] <adu> ubotu: thanks
[12:15] <ubotu> de rien, adu
[12:15] <kestas> I use ubuntu on my radio/media/kitchen box
[12:15] <Jimmey__> thementor, Ubuntu has the best support, it's easiest for a beginner
[12:15] <quix> when i'm executing command "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel" it says that : fglrx-kernel-source (source package installed):    -- Binary package(s) for kernel(s):  + (2.6.10-5-amd64-generic): not found
[12:15] <kestas> not sure why I came in here actually
[12:15] <musicman> :) anyone know where I can find the msttcorefonts, or the deb that has it in?
[12:16] <quix> khermans_ do i need just to change vesa to fglrx in xorg.conf?
[12:16] <visik7> apt-get install it
[12:16] <FatalCure> !info msttcorefonts
[12:16] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[12:16] <kestas> musicman: hmm I think there's some sort of a script which installs all those questionable apps which everyone needs
[12:16] <kestas> musicman: called ubuntu bootstrap, something like that
[12:16] <FatalCure> musicman: ^^^^^ (multiverse repository)
[12:16] <khermans_> qui
[12:16] <khermans_> quix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28binary%29
[12:17] <visik7> musicman: you need to enable multiverse
[12:17] <khermans_> i have to go now
[12:17] <quix> heeeeeeeeeee
[12:17] <quix> heeeeeeeeey
[12:17] <musicman> ah! I'm in dapper
[12:17] <khermans_> quix, just follow that wiki guide and you lll be fine
[12:17] <musicman> hence not finding it
[12:17] <musicman> apt-get doesn't work :_
[12:18] <quix> khermans_ i did bunch of them
[12:18] <musicman> nope, still no installation candidate
[12:18] <khermans_> quix, that one will work!  sorry -- dude gotta go!
[12:18] <Jimmey__> musicman, what errors?
[12:18] <khermans_> quix, googd luck :-)
[12:18] <tubbie> ow sensor is not workig :\
[12:18] <khermans_> quix, email me if you really get lost
[12:18] <AnAnt> should I keep the packages thare are in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[12:18] <musicman> Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:18] <musicman> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:18] <musicman> is only available from another source
[12:18] <musicman> E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[12:18] <khermans_> kristian.hermansen AT NO SPAM gmail.com
[12:18] <exhale> which file system should be used? reiserfs or ext3? :s
[12:18] <adu> hm
[12:18] <quix> thanks
[12:19] <adu> maybe I'll put it on my old mac laptop then :)
[12:19] <Jimmey__> exhale, ext3 sounds good...
[12:19] <musicman> yeah, I like ext3 too
[12:19] <exhale> what about reiser?
[12:19] <Jimmey__> It's the default..Unless you have a reason, there's no need to switch
[12:19] <exhale> whats the difference?
[12:19] <AnAnt> should I keep the packages thare are in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ? they are using up a lot of disk space ?
[12:19] <paf> hello, I have a question with hal-pmount (on dapper)
[12:19] <Seveas> AnAnt, apt-get clean 
[12:19] <adu> what about 'shred' doesn't that only work on nonjournaled fs's?
[12:20] <musicman> jimmy__ did that error mean anything to you, or show you any enlightenment?
[12:20] <paf> i manage to give the right name for a disk (like /dev/maxtor), but ubuntu mount the disk always as usbdisk... how can i make it recognize as Mastor???
[12:20] <adu> AnAnt: its save to remove source packages for things that aren't CURRENTLY installing :)
[12:21] <adu> save => safe
[12:21] <Jimmey__> musicman, there's no package with that name - try sudo apt-cache search msttcorefonts
[12:21] <musicman> cheers mate
[12:21] <adu> AnAnt: so only .src.tar.gz type stuff
[12:21] <musicman> I'll go searching, I should be able to live with out it anyway :)
[12:22] <musicman> got it
[12:22] <musicman> needed to add the US based multiverse
[12:22] <AnAnt> what is hal-pmount ?
[12:22] <musicman> the AU based one does have it :)
[12:22] <maikol> im trying to install apache but it says cannot lock file permision denied
[12:22] <Seveas> maikol, try via the package manager in system  administration
[12:22] <Jimmey__> maikol, are you using synaptic and apt-get at the same time?
[12:23] <maikol> i think just apt-get
[12:23] <hyphenated> Seveas: I thought that was a fleck of dust on my screen at the end of a dash ;-)
[12:23] <Jimmey__> mailkol, try "sudo apt-get install apache2"
[12:23] <maikol> tried that and it said 'not in sudoers file'
[12:24] <adu> maikol: try deleting your harddrive
[12:24] <Jimmey__> maikol, there you're not an administrative user - Are you the computer's admin?
[12:24] <michu90> czy mozna usunac partycje z xp w ubuntu i potem dododac to wolne miejsce na dysk dla ubuntu ? troche zamotalem ale sadze ze bedzie wiadomo oco mi ohodzi
[12:24] <Jimmey__> adu, what?
[12:24] <Seveas> maikol, did you install with 'server' option?
[12:24] <maikol> yeah, i just finished installing ubuntu on it
[12:24] <maikol> no
[12:24] <SurfnKid> how do i know which linux version im running?
[12:24] <Jimmey__> SurfnKid, uname -a
[12:25] <Seveas> maikol, what is the output of the 'id' command?
[12:25] <maikol> uid=1000(maikol)
[12:25] <paf> AnAnt: I mean Hal and pmount (hardware abstraction layer)
[12:25] <Free_maN> yop
[12:25] <maikol> gid=1000(maikol)
[12:26] <SurfnKid> ty Jimmey
[12:26] <maikol> and so on
[12:26] <maikol> cant paste cause its another computer
[12:26] <Seveas> is the group 'admin' in the output maikol ?
[12:27] <maikol> says groups=4(adm)
[12:27] <Frogzoo> SurfnKid: lsb_release
[12:27] <Frogzoo> SurfnKid: lsb_release -a
[12:27] <maikol> only other relatively similar word to admin is 104(lpadmin)
[12:28] <SurfnKid> ah thats also what i needed ty
[12:28] <SurfnKid> im writing all these commands down in a pad
[12:29] <SurfnKid> all thanks to my msdos experience in highschool this pays off
[12:29] <quix> how to find out what kernel version i'm using???
[12:29] <fLy-> hi. apache 2.0.55 / ubuntu 6.06 -- loaded mod_dav using "a2enmod dav_fs && a2enmod dav && a2enmod dav_svn" but dav doesnt not appear to be loading/working
[12:29] <Jimmey__> uname -a
[12:29] <Jimmey__> :P
[12:29] <fLy-> any ideas?
[12:29] <SurfnKid> :P
[12:30] <SurfnKid> that worked too but doesnt give you the breezy or dapper version
[12:31] <Jimmey__> quix, uname -a
[12:31] <Jimmey__> SurfnKid, I meant to quix
[12:31] <Jimmey__> :P
[12:32] <quix> thanks Jimmey__
[12:32] <quix> :)
[12:32] <pluffsy> anyone here knows how the intel mac support looks in ubuntu dapper?
[12:32] <Jimmey__> pluffsy, it looks like this
[12:32] <Jimmey__> %^&*()
[12:32] <Jimmey__> Just kidding
[12:33] <pluffsy> does a normal install cd boot and does sound and so on works?
[12:33] <SurfnKid> oh
[12:33] <pluffsy> or will I need to install ehh elilo or what it's called myself?
[12:33] <maikol> so limmey__, any ideas about why i dont have permision to install apche
[12:33] <Jimmey__> maikol, are you the only user on the system?
[12:34] <maikol> limmey__, yes
[12:34] <Jimmey__> And you've only just installed?
[12:34] <maikol> limmey__, yep, just a few mins ago
[12:34] <gnube> maikol, Are you root?
[12:34] <quix> how to update kernel to 2.6.12-1 from 2.6.10-5 ?
[12:35] <gnube> maikol, Or do you have a root password?
[12:35] <SurfnKid> whats the difference btw .rpm and .deb
[12:35] <mutante> quix: sounds like downgrade
[12:35] <quix> oops :0
[12:35] <maikol> gnube, i do but i dont want to install it as root cause then i cant modify it without being root
[12:35] <jikbag> how does one even setup a root user in ubuntu?  i have to sudo everything
[12:35] <gnube> SurfnKid, rpm is a package from Red Hat or Suse, a deb is a package from debian
[12:35] <mutante> quix: no, it doesnt, dont listen to me :p
[12:35] <snadge> how do i change my default boot operating system to windows in grub? (i've just installed ubuntu on a work computer, and dont wish to have it default to ubuntu because its not properly set up yet)
[12:35] <quix> ;)
[12:35] <gnube> maikol, Certain things, like installing apache, can only be done as root.
[12:36] <SurfnKid> gnube deb made sense right, oh ok and what would be better for ubuntu, i hear its based more on debian's core structure
[12:36] <quix> people how can i upgrade my kernel?
[12:36] <snadge> jikbag, sudo su (to get root prompt, type your own password of course) then type "passwd"
[12:36] <maikol> gnube, thanks for the info.
[12:36] <gnube> maikol, Sure thing
[12:36] <jikbag> snadge: sweet thanks
[12:36] <gnube> SurfnKid, Ubunut is debian, but the debian people do not think so.
[12:36] <gnube> SurfnKid, A bit of a sensitive issue.
[12:37] <twager> Anyone answer a seti query ?
[12:37] <SurfnKid> lol
[12:37] <Jimmey__> snadge, you've to change the menu.lst, it's in /boot/grub/. Type this into a terminal: "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.bak; gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[12:37] <snadge> now i really need help with changing default boot option with grub.. you'd think it would be easy ;)
[12:37] <SurfnKid> im from outerspace, but my people do not think so either
[12:37] <gnube> snadge, You can edit your grub.conf file
[12:37] <SurfnKid> i know the feelingg
[12:37] <snadge> ahh okay thanks jimmey.. just move the windows entry to the top of the list? or is there a "nicer" way to do it?
[12:38] <snadge> i dont want to edit the automatically generated bits
[12:38] <Jimmey__> Yeah, just copy and paste - if you copy and paste that command into the terminal, you'll have a backup, and it should be straight forward
[12:38] <Jimmey__> I'll be right back
[12:38] <maikol> gnube, do all programs need to be installed as root/
[12:39] <gnube> maikol, No. But certain programs do.
[12:39] <maikol> o
[12:39] <maikol> k
[12:39] <gnube> maikol, If you are going to install programs onto the computer, you will have to be root, but they do not need to be installed _as_ root.
[12:39] <gnube> a little confusing I know.
[12:40] <gnube> root is the superuser, root can do anything, including wiping out your entire computer.
[12:40] <gnube> so one does have to be careful.
[12:40] <maikol> thats what i figured
[12:40] <gnube> but sometimes you have to become root to do administration.
[12:40] <gnube> but that's fun!
[12:40] <maikol> i know
[12:41] <SurfnKid> geez do i have to do a compililation of  my kernel to get these lmsensors going.. anyone... anyone.....
[12:41] <german> hi, i have this problem while starting ubuntu
[12:41] <german> [4294668.58600]  PCI: cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:06:00.0
[12:41] <maikol> well, time for bed. its 7 in the morning now. thanks for the help
[12:41] <followmearound> if I install something with --force-depends ... how do I make it so that when I run apt-get, it's not constantly trying to uninstall the package?
[12:42] <german> and this [4294668.620000]  PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #0:1000.40000000
[12:42] <rixxon> sorry i know you get this every day, but i have tried what google tells me. I can't su/sudo/sudo passwd/etc
[12:42] <german> do you know what is the problem?
[12:43] <SurfnKid> su su sudio is starting to sound like Phil Collins
[12:43] <Jimmey__> rixxon, when you use sudo, you type your user password
[12:43] <FatalCure> rixxon: what's the error when you try to sudo?
[12:44] <quix> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey , how to upgrade kernel to 2.6.12-1-amd64-generic
[12:44] <quix> ???
[12:44] <Jimmey__> quix, search for it in synaptic
[12:44] <rixxon> im so sorry, and stupid. :) working now thanks
[12:46] <ompaul> SurfnKid, no we just do sudo
[12:46] <ompaul> :)
[12:46] <SurfnKid> no such thing as sorry and stupid, please... i ask dummer questions than that :)
[12:47] <kettenschutz> hey there
[12:47] <SurfnKid> esp. when im trying to get these darn lm sensors going lol
[12:47] <Jimmey__> hello
[12:47] <rixxon> by the way, what stops a program from using su/sudo itself?
[12:47] <kettenschutz> someone of you got experience with the WineCVS script from linuxgamers?
[12:47] <Jimmey__> rixxon, it will ask for a password
[12:47] <Jimmey__> sudo won't work without a password
[12:47] <rixxon> Jimmey__: ! slap me *please*
[12:47] <SurfnKid> doesnt it time out after 15mins?
[12:48] <kettenschutz> no one ?!
[12:48] <gmmech> how would I /can I make a launcher item in gnome that is a termal command (sudo toshset -fan high)
[12:48] <rixxon> this does not ask for a password (maybe because of harmless command?) : sudo echo 'foo'
[12:48] <Jimmey__> kettenschutz, doesn't look like it
[12:48] <kettenschutz> damn, cant reach a ppl @ #linuxgamers.net and #cedega
[12:49] <german> and this [4294668.620000]  PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #0:1000.40000000, dp you know the problem?
[12:49] <Jimmey__> gmmech, try "gnome-terminal sudo toshset -fan high"
[12:49] <rixxon> sudo doesn't ask for a password at all for me, only su?
[12:49] <Jimmey__> rixxon, you shouldn't use su
[12:50] <rixxon> Jimmey__: the problem was sudo, though
[12:50] <Jimmey__> sudo has some timeout thing, where there's a few seconds after you've typed your sudo password in which sudo won't ask for the password
[12:50] <rixxon> aha, that was what you meant, sorry
[12:51] <rixxon> thanks
[12:52] <rixxon> interesting note: coming from windows i almost *expect* problems to be bugs - where it is just me ofcourse :p
[12:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can i make you a question regarding Wireless access point and p2p client software? When i turn on Ktorrent client on my laptop connected to the net through an US-robotics access point, the web navigation became very bad... furthermore i tried to ping the wifi router and the amount of packet loss is HUGE.. like 90%. Is this normal? do you have to turn off p2p clients too for  a correct navigation? i never had this problem with 
[12:53] <SurfnKid> hey guys a question about downloaded gz and rpm files, they are stored on a folder on my desktop. how can i get synaptic to see them to install.. ?  should i use the sudo apt-get install command instead?
[12:54] <Jimmey__> !alien
[12:54] <ubotu> hmm... alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[12:54] <hyphenated> SurfnKid: in general, you don't want to install them, you want to get packages via apt-get or synaptics
[12:54] <Jimmey__> Tallia1Kubuntu, I think you need to change your firewall settings / port forwarding settings for Torrent clients to work
[12:55] <rixxon> shouldn't this install ruby for me, (sudo) apt-get install ruby
[12:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Jimmey__: the fact is that the torrent client work perfectly.. it's everything else that stop working..
[12:55] <Jimmey__> rixxon, yeah, why..
[12:55] <SurfnKid> i got the latest sensors files from the net, how can i set them up tho
[12:55] <SurfnKid> usin the apt-get
[12:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Jimmey__: do you think it is because i didn't explicitly opened the ports on the router?
[12:55] <rixxon> Jimmey__: Unable to lock the download directory
[12:55] <hyphenated> SurfnKid: you don't use apt-get to install random things you downloaded
[12:55] <SurfnKid> ah
[12:56] <hyphenated> SurfnKid: you use it to install one of the 17000 packages it has available
[12:56] <Jimmey__> SurfnKid, apt-get gets packages from a repository and then uses a program called dpkg to install them. Try searching for the package you want with synaptic
[12:56] <Corey> Hey guys, i need to know how to let a windows computer access my ubuntu computer via a network
[12:56] <SurfnKid> mm ok it all makes sense guys
[12:56] <Jimmey__> !samba
[12:56] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[12:57] <glick> hey do your cron and at commands run even when your logged off?
[12:57] <SurfnKid> but i downloaded these packages http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/newdrivers.html  and i want to set them up, should i still use SPM
[12:57] <Corey> It works and all but when i click on my ubuntu machine from the windows machine it asks for a username and password where do I set those ?
[12:57] <hyphenated> glick: cron - definitely. at should as well
[12:57] <Jimmey__> SurfKid, chances are, that same package is available in the respositories, via synaptic.
[12:58] <SurfnKid> ah
[12:58] <Jimmey__> Corey, maybe it's the system's user name and password?
[12:58] <rixxon> Jimmey__: problem located, i think. didn't seem to work properly while the updates thingy was active
[12:58] <Corey> no ive tried that
[12:58] <Corey> no go
[12:58] <SurfnKid> let me check then
[12:58] <Corey> wait
[12:58] <Corey> my systems..
[12:58] <Corey> you mean the account im on now ?
[12:58] <Jimmey__> I mean the user name and password for the ubuntu computer
[12:58] <Corey> yeah..
[12:59] <Corey> im on my ubuntu machine now
[12:59] <Corey> do i log in as the user I am now on the windows machine
[12:59] <Corey> because if thats so it doesnt work
[12:59] <hyphenated> Corey: no, those won't work. you want to set up your samba a little differently
[12:59] <Corey> ok how ?
[01:00] <hyphenated> have you read the links ubotu gave you?
[01:00] <Corey> I can access my windows machine from ubuntu but i can't copy files
[01:00] <rixxon> does ubuntu use the same repository as debian or do they run their own?
[01:01] <Jimmey__> rixxon, they're seperate
[01:01] <Corey> hyphenated: ???
[01:01] <hyphenated> Corey: what error do you get when you try to copy files?
[01:01] <Corey> preparing to copy
[01:01] <rixxon> Jimmey__: ok thanks
[01:01] <Corey> and thats all it does
[01:01] <SurfnKid> libsensors-dev was not installed,.... that could be it.. i shall try
[01:01] <Corey> hyphenated: preparing to copy thats all its doing...
[01:02] <hyphenated> Corey: that's a bit weak :-)
[01:02] <Corey> hyphenated: what do i need to do buddy ?
[01:02] <followmearound> if I install something with --force-depends ... how do I make it so that when I run apt-get, it's not constantly trying to uninstall the package?
[01:02] <seek> I'm trying to use a USB enclosure /w 200GB IDE hard drive, linux will only detect 137.4GB. Is there any way to get around this?
[01:02] <hyphenated> Corey: that's trying to copy from Windows to Ubuntu, and the share is on the Windows machine?
[01:03] <Schalken> do things start to break if you install a 32bit OS on a 64bit computer?
[01:03] <Corey> hyphenated: correct
[01:03] <Jimmey__> Schalken, no
[01:03] <hyphenated> seek: make two partitions. most versions of windows won't see it correctly either, if that's any consolation
[01:03] <Dry-ice> why would my system reboot in the middle of an install ?
[01:03] <SurfnKid> i cant find the i2c support, so that might be why this aint installing
[01:04] <Schalken> jimmey__: my video driver would still work?
[01:04] <Jimmey__> Unless it was specifically for 64bit
[01:04] <hyphenated> Corey: not sure, I haven't had problems in that direction before
[01:05] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell SurfnKid about sensors
[01:05] <SurfnKid> !sensors
[01:05] <ubotu> sensors is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[01:05] <SurfnKid> ok thanks
[01:06] <Schalken> ubotu: give me a goddam sis 661fx video driver!
[01:06] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Schalken
[01:07] <Schalken> ubotu: i dont like your attitude
[01:07] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Schalken
[01:07] <Jimmey__> Schalken, ubotu's a bot?
[01:07] <Schalken> yeah i know
[01:07] <Jimmey__> Phew
[01:07] <Jimmey__> XoD
[01:07] <rixxon> where does apt-get install interactive ruby? ruby works, irb doesn't. synaptic says on debian irb is a separate package, apt-get install irb says not found..
[01:07] <Schalken> lol
[01:08] <Schalken> ubotu: what is ubuntu.cc.com.au
[01:08] <ubotu> Schalken: what are you talking about?
[01:09] <SurfnKid> poor ubotu
[01:09] <Schalken> hehehe
[01:09] <SurfnKid> gets jacked around like Michael jacksons kids
[01:09] <jdmpike> hey everyone - anyone upgrade to the release candidate from a previous breezy install?
[01:09] <jdmpike> I am thinking about doing it
[01:09] <jdmpike> I just can't wait anymore!
[01:10] <hyphenated> jdmpike: go right ahead. find all the showstoppers so they won't affect me on thursday
[01:10] <crazy_penguin> cya later everyone!:)
[01:10] <jdmpike> hyphenated - haha!
[01:10] <Schalken> ubuntu: where can i find video drivers?
[01:10] <Schalken> cya!
[01:10] <Schalken> i mean
[01:11] <jdmpike> hyphenated, so you still don't think it is safe
[01:11] <Schalken> ubotu: where can i find video drivers?
[01:11] <ubotu> Schalken: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:11] <Corey> hyphenated: i might have fixed the copy problem
[01:11] <Schalken> ubotu: sis video driver?
[01:11] <ubotu> Schalken: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:11] <hyphenated> Schalken: it's obvious he can't cope with your question. how about asking something that isn't a bot now
[01:11] <Corey> hyphenated: yes i did the share folder was read only now how can i access my ubuntu machine on windows
[01:11] <Corey> whats the user and pass
[01:12] <kevor> !totem
[01:12] <ubotu> hmm... totem is a very nice media player that is installed with Ubuntu. It can be found in Applications -> Sound and Video.
[01:12] <hyphenated> Corey: do you remember the screen you were in where you configured the shares?
[01:12] <ling> haha
[01:12] <kevor> hmm, where can i get codex for totem, it plays hardly any files (no qmv, no ogg)
[01:12] <kevor> wmv even
[01:12] <SurfnKid> um
[01:12] <Corey> i havent configured shares on ubuntu
[01:12] <SurfnKid> i got help with that earlier
[01:12] <Corey> ..i made a shared folder.. but not a shares..
[01:12] <SurfnKid> u have to go to the repositories and enable universe and multiverse
[01:12] <Schalken> ubotu: driver for lexmark printer?
[01:13] <SurfnKid> and then install a bunch of plugins i forgot
[01:13] <Corey> guys
[01:13] <Corey> i need this to work
[01:13] <SurfnKid> i think its called restricted formats
[01:13] <Corey> recode ucs-2..ascii yourfile.reg
[01:13] <SurfnKid> !restricted formats
[01:13] <Corey> but that doesnt work
[01:13] <ubotu> [restricted formats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or '!codecs'
[01:13] <Corey> recode ucs-2..ascii yourfile.reg
[01:13] <SurfnKid> kevor read that about restricted formts i think thats it
[01:13] <Corey> what is wrong with that
[01:13] <Schalken> can the bot search the forums or the wiki for me?
[01:14] <Corey> error given: recode command not found
[01:14] <mike__> hi
[01:14] <Schalken> hey
[01:14] <hyphenated> you haven't installed 'recode'
[01:14] <SurfnKid> holy s*** its daylight i need to start snoring already
[01:14] <jdmpike> gulp - here goes the upgrade...
[01:15] <Corey> guys
[01:15] <Corey> who has got dreamweaver 8 working on linux using wine ?
[01:16] <NinjaDuck> hi, i have just deleted a load of files in nautilus, but i have no more free space on my disc and the files are gone, how can i reclaim the free space?
[01:17] <lastnode> NinjaDuck, try emptying trash?
[01:17] <NinjaDuck> how do i do that?
[01:17] <lastnode> NinjaDuck, right click the trash icon and empty the trash?
[01:17] <NinjaDuck> lastnode, i dont have a trash icon
[01:18] <wulax> i'm trying to add an ext3 usb-disk to fstab, but i keep getting some errors at boot about not being able to mount it as an ext2 filesystem (?!).
[01:18] <wulax> i used this: /dev/sda1     /media/usbdisk  ext3            rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev  0      1
[01:18] <wulax> what's the deal with that?
[01:18] <hyphenated> wulax: most USB disks are fat32
[01:18] <Schalken> NinjaDuck, thats wird, ti should be down the bottom right next to the workspaces (4 squares), unless you removed it
[01:19] <Schalken> weird*
[01:19] <wulax> hyphenated: well, naturally i already formatted it to ext3...
[01:19] <ahoora> hey guys, what are new features in dapper? any significant improvement?
[01:19] <kevor> k htanks SurfnKid
[01:19] <kevor> !restricted formats
[01:19] <wulax> hyphenated: and added a journal
[01:19] <ubotu> from memory, restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or '!codecs'
[01:19] <Schalken> ahoora: looks a helovalot better, for one
[01:19] <kevor> !codex
[01:19] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kevor
[01:19] <hyphenated> wulax: does the problem only happen at boot time?
[01:19] <kevor> !codecs
[01:19] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[01:19] <wulax> hyphenated: yep
[01:20] <kevor> !easysource
[01:20] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:20] <NinjaDuck> thanks Schalken, lastnode i got it, just needed to re add the trash icon to a panel, i thought that deleting in anutilus would do the same as rm
[01:20] <wulax> hyphenated: it seems it thinks i is an ext2, though it's an ext3
[01:21] <hyphenated> wulax: odd. I've never attempted that, so I can't help
[01:21] <wulax> hyphenated: ok, thanks anyway
[01:22] <hyphenated> I doubt many people have attempted it, compared to the number that have happily used their usb disks as fat32 drives
[01:22] <wulax> i don't really like fat32 because of the file size restrictions
[01:23] <spikeb> wait
[01:23] <ahoora> is it necessary to have a firewall or antivirus running in ubuntu?
[01:23] <wulax> which means i can't rip dvd's 8)
[01:23] <spikeb> you're trying to use an ext2/3 formatted usb key?
[01:24] <wulax> spikeb: well, it's an external 300 gb usb-disk
[01:24] <spikeb> wulax: oh, it's a disk, not a flash drive
[01:24] <lastnode> oh
[01:24] <wulax> spikeb: nope
[01:24] <spikeb> wulax: that's not unusual then
[01:25] <wulax> spikeb: it's not?
[01:25] <spikeb> wulax: not for a hard drive, no
[01:25] <Schalken> whats the quickest way to downgrade from 64bit Ubuntu to 32bit?
[01:26] <spikeb> Schalken: backing up your home directory and reinstalling
[01:26] <Schalken> spikeb: damn
[01:26] <Schalken> spikeb: that would take a hellova while on dialup
[01:26] <spikeb> eek
[01:26] <spikeb> Schalken: it's about the only way
[01:27] <Schalken> spikeb: *sigh* i wish there was more support for 64bit
[01:27] <spikeb> Schalken: me too, but not even 64bit windows has decent support
[01:28] <Schalken> yeah, the only decent 64bit support comes from the open source community
[01:28] <Schalken> cuz everything can just be recompiled from source
[01:28] <spikeb> Schalken: that's very, very true
[01:28] <spikeb> Schalken: and shows a huge benefit of open source :)
[01:29] <shriphani> guys i created a mount point for a USB floppy in /media
[01:29] <shriphani> how do i get it to recognise it
[01:29] <shriphani> i mean the usb floppy
[01:29] <Schalken> but even then things like flash and windows media codecs cant be used. and then theres the games and other proprietary software that wont work.
[01:30] <spikeb> Schalken: i know your pain - i run ubuntu on a powerpc
[01:30] <shriphani> erm can anyone answer me ?
[01:30] <SurfnKid> ok good night guys, have a pleasant monday morning
[01:30] <Schalken> lol
[01:30] <SurfnKid> ill figure this lm-sensors thing tomorrow
[01:30] <Schalken> its monday night over here
[01:30] <SurfnKid> typical in australia
[01:30] <Schalken> yup
[01:30] <SurfnKid> hehe
[01:30] <shriphani> erm people i need help
[01:30] <reiki> I just got up... Monday morning here :)
[01:31] <shriphani> how do i get my linux to recognise my ext. floppy drive ?
[01:31] <shriphani> i created a floppy dir in /media
[01:31] <Schalken> i haven't used a usb floppy before, so i cant say myself
[01:31] <reiki> shriphani, take a look in fstab and see how your CD is being handled. USB flash drive should be similar but obviously file system type and read-only status will be different
[01:32] <shriphani> not flash flopy
[01:33] <reiki> shriphani, external usb removeable... look in fstab and give it a go
[01:33] <Kasper_G> Hey, anybody got experience with Maple 10.0.3 and Ubuntu? ... I can't get the "^" function to work, when in math mode! ... Anybody can help me?
[01:33] <shriphani> so do i make an entry /dev/hdf for floppy in /etc/fstab ?
[01:33] <Schalken> Kasper_G: whats Maple do?
[01:34] <Aphostile> hello
[01:34] <Schalken> hi
[01:34] <tubbie> !codecs
[01:34] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[01:34] <shriphani> reiki, what do i put in as type ?
[01:34] <Aphostile> what path does xchat install into on ubuntu?
[01:34] <Kasper_G> well ... nothing. I can only use the "^" when in text mode.
[01:34] <Aphostile> by default?
[01:34] <spikeb> probably /usr/bin/xchat Aphostile
[01:35] <tubbie> !easysource
[01:35] <Schalken> Kasper_G: no i mean what is the purpose of maple
[01:35] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:35] <Schalken> !lexmark
[01:35] <ubotu> Schalken: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:35] <Kasper_G> Schalken: Oh, its a mathematic program
[01:35] <Schalken> !sis
[01:35] <ubotu> Schalken: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:35] <reiki> shriphani, file system type?  ... I believe I had it as msdos...
[01:35] <Schalken> stupid bot
[01:35] <shriphani> ok
[01:35] <shriphani> msdos ?
[01:35] <Schalken> Kasper_G: okay
[01:36] <spikeb> hehe
[01:36] <Aphostile> ty
[01:36] <shriphani> for cdrom it is udf,iso9660 user,noauto
[01:36] <reiki> shriphani, for floppy make type as auto
[01:37] <shriphani> so udf,iso9660 user,auto ?
[01:37] <reiki> no....
[01:37] <reiki> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[01:37] <shriphani> ok
[01:38] <reiki> only change the /dev/fd0 line to your dev for the usb external
[01:44] <Corey> im trying to access my windows machine via a network and its asking me for a username domain and password what are they ??
[01:44] <jikbag> you shouldnt need a domain
[01:45] <Corey> well how do i get in
[01:45] <jikbag> just the username and password on your windows box
[01:45] <Corey> they dont work :(
[01:45] <Corey> some folders let me some dont :S
[01:45] <richard> hey
[01:45] <ramvi> Corey, are you acutally sharing someting?
[01:45] <richard> im trying to install Adobe Reader
[01:46] <richard> but im having problems with permissions
[01:46] <Dry-ice> I need ideas for what could cause a power cycle when compiling or booting or installing a dist... I know it's not heat, the mb/cpu/psu are all new the ram and video card came from a box that was doing the same, hince the upgrade. the ram is good (passed a full day of memtest86)
[01:46] <shriphani> ok guys what do i specify as the floppy file system ?
[01:46] <shriphani> fat16 ?
[01:46] <shriphani> or fat 32?
[01:46] <shriphani> or ext2 or ext3
[01:46] <Schalken> can anyone tell me how the hell suse 10.1 managed to get flash working on 64bit, while ubuntu cant?
[01:47] <Dry-ice> floppies are fat12 if win/dos
[01:47] <exhale> hello, im trying to use deborphan but im not really shure how to do.. can anyone help?
[01:47] <Corey> ramvi: yes
[01:47] <Corey> ive been getting files for the last ten minutes
[01:47] <ramvi> Right..
[01:47] <Corey> this is really annoying meeee !!!
[01:48] <Schalken> Coery: do you have a windows share working?
[01:48] <Schalken> Corey*
[01:48] <shriphani> in linux what do i specify as the file system type ?
[01:48] <Corey> um..
[01:48] <Corey> not sure
[01:48] <brian_> anybody have any suggestions on what apps i should use on a server that scans incoming mail for viruses and filters spam
[01:48] <Butcherlg> where i can download Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) ?
[01:48] <shriphani> Butcherlg, www.ubuntu.com
[01:48] <apokryphos> Butcherlg: /topic
[01:48] <Butcherlg> brian_, try use avp
[01:48] <Schalken> ubotu: show Butcherlg Ubuntu Dapper
[01:48] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Schalken
[01:48] <Butcherlg> shriphani, at ubuntu.com i only see 5.10
[01:48] <Schalken> awww
[01:49] <shriphani> hmm
[01:49] <apokryphos> Butcherlg: /topic
[01:49] <hugh__> Ahhhh. How do I change my refresh rate. GNOME only allows me to go to 60 hz but my monitor can go to 75hz
[01:49] <Butcherlg> ok
[01:49] <hugh__> it hurts it hurts
[01:49] <exhale> hugh__, refonfigure X
[01:49] <apokryphos> hugh__: /msg ubotu resolution
[01:49] <exhale> regonfigure*
[01:49] <Corey> I DID IT
[01:49] <shriphani> someone help me too
[01:49] <Corey> DREAMEAVEWR 8 WORKS!!!!
[01:49] <void^> shriphani: just use auto
[01:49] <shriphani> i did that
[01:49] <Schalken> can anyone tell me how the hell suse 10.1 managed to get flash working on 64bit, while ubuntu cant?
[01:50] <shriphani> it still asks for filesystem type when i mount it
[01:50] <apokryphos> Schalken: Ubuntu/Debian are not BiArch compatible
[01:50] <apokryphos> mainly because of APT
[01:50] <exhale> ;(
[01:50] <hugh__> how do I 'refonfigure' X
[01:50] <apokryphos> yeah, kind of a blow for amd64 users =)
[01:50] <hugh__> ?
[01:50] <Schalken> apokryphos: oh well thats a shame. maybe i should break out my suse 10.1 cd...
[01:50] <apokryphos> hugh__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:50] <shriphani> void^, the last time i did this i put it as fat 32
[01:50] <Butcherlg> apokryphos, thx, i founded :D
[01:50] <hugh__> I have tryed that
[01:50] <shriphani> and had enough probs for a lifetime
[01:51] <shriphani> so i need correct info now
[01:51] <spikeb> apokryphos: isn't that on the list for attempting to do for edgy? (biarch)
[01:51] <shriphani> i think when mounted the 1st time i need to specify the file system type
[01:51] <apokryphos> spikeb: one of the things, yup; that's why sabdfl is looking into smart.
[01:51] <apokryphos> smart is biarch compatible
[01:51] <Schalken> smart?
[01:52] <brian_> anybody any experiences using spamcop/spamassasin\mailwasher?
[01:52] <Schalken> not me
[01:52] <apokryphos> Schalken: package management that supports many source/repository formats; see http://labix.org/smart
[01:52] <apokryphos> it's very good :)
[01:53] <Schalken> are you saying if i use that i could get flash working?
[01:53] <shriphani> apokryphos, what do i specify as file system type for my floppy drive in linux
[01:53] <spikeb> hmm
[01:53] <spikeb> apokryphos: why not fix apt?
[01:53] <jikbag> shriphani: maybe try vfat
[01:53] <apokryphos> Schalken: hm, I've never tried it on ubuntu. Not sure how it would work now, might try it when I'm next on kubuntu
[01:53] <shriphani> ok
[01:53] <jikbag> shriphani: just a guess
[01:54] <apokryphos> spikeb: they've been talking of doing that for absolutely ages on debian. I don't know.
[01:54] <spikeb> heh
[01:54] <spikeb> they talk about everything for ages with debian
[01:54] <apokryphos> not sure if smart would totally replace apt, anyhow (That hasn't been said)
[01:54] <Butcherlg> apokryphos, i want dvd version :\
[01:54] <apokryphos> Butcherlg: ......of?
[01:54] <shriphani> not acceptin it
[01:54] <jikbag> shriphani: srry :(
[01:54] <shriphani> ok
[01:55] <shriphani> any other ideas
[01:55] <spikeb> smart seems neat though
[01:55] <Butcherlg> apokryphos, of 6.06
[01:55] <apokryphos> spikeb: I really like it, yup. It has many things over APT
[01:55] <Butcherlg> apokryphos, i seen dvd of 5.10. now i want 6.06 :D
[01:55] <apokryphos> but no build-dep yet :(
[01:55] <apokryphos> Butcherlg: no dvds for 6.06, only desktop CD and alternate.
[01:55] <spikeb> aptitude also has many things over apt
[01:55] <brasko> hi all, is now a good time to upgrade to the new ubuntu release?
[01:56] <brasko> If so, what's the chance I'm going to break my OS install?
[01:56] <apokryphos> and visa versa. I don't always use aptitude, and there are reasons :D
[01:56] <apokryphos> smart has things over aptitude too ;-)
[01:57] <spikeb> so basically we're looking at adding ANOTHER meta package manager here heh
[01:57] <odie__> how do i disable the firewall in ubuntu 5.10?
[01:57] <apokryphos> multiple connections, capabilities for mirror sources... it's good 8)
[01:57] <Schalken> uubuntu has a firewall?
[01:58] <apokryphos> !firewall
[01:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[01:58] <odie__> well, azureus syays so
[01:58] <Schalken> lol
[01:58] <spikeb> azureus is probably complaining about a router firewall
[01:58] <shriphani> !how to mount a USB floppy
[01:58] <ubotu> shriphani: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:58] <odie__> i have no router
[01:58] <shriphani> !mounting
[01:58] <ubotu> shriphani: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:58] <Schalken> !smartass bot
[01:58] <ubotu> Schalken: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:58] <shriphani> !smartass ubotu
[01:58] <Schalken> yeah not so smart now
[01:58] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, shriphani
[01:58] <kronoz> hi, can anyone else get on easysource? it seems to be down from my machine
[01:59] <shriphani> lol
[01:59] <kronoz> !easysource
[01:59] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:59] <spikeb> don't make the bot sad :(
[01:59] <shriphani> Schalken, help me with mounting a device for the 1st time
[01:59] <spikeb> !botsnack
[01:59] <ubotu> thanks spikeb :)
[01:59] <shriphani> !botsnack
[01:59] <Schalken> spikeb: that was smooth
[02:00] <Schalken> shriphani: ive never manually mounted a device
[02:00] <odie__> tanx for everything
[02:00] <shriphani> ok
[02:00] <shriphani> because i am sure i did the manual mount only once
[02:00] <shriphani> after that my drive was automatically detected all the while
[02:00] <shriphani> but i did have to mount only once
[02:00] <shriphani> that time i specified the filesystem as fat32
[02:01] <shriphani> then i had big probs
[02:02] <Charles21> Can someone help me out with file permissions I have figured out that i need to do umask 000    for my /var/www/ to get it how i want it the problem is you have to set this on each computer (i dont mind that) The problem is when i connect to the ssh file sharing the umask is ignored is there  a way to do umask with filesharing with ssh
[02:03] <Schalken> Charles21: dunon
[02:03] <Schalken> dunno*
[02:03] <Sub> Charles21, well in ftp you can seta default umask
[02:03] <Schalken> havent used ssh
[02:03] <shriphani> Schalken, any ideas
[02:03] <Schalken> for?
[02:03] <maddox> it's not something in the /etc/profile getting overwriting your setting when the SSH user logs in?
[02:03] <Sub> Charles21, ill find the value for ssh
[02:03] <shriphani> my problem
[02:03] <Charles21> Sub, I guess I will have to do ftp until I learn more about unix filesharing as a quick fix
[02:03] <spikeb> sounds lit might be
[02:04] <Sub> well Charles, in /etc/proftpd.conf you can set a default umask.
[02:04] <LiMpKiN> hello everyone
[02:04] <LiMpKiN> je voulais juste savoir la date de sortie de notre dapper drake
[02:04] <Sub> shriphani, whats your problem?
[02:04] <Schalken> dunno
[02:04] <Charles21> Yeah I have setup proftpd (basic setup) ill focus on that now It was only in the last 10min i figured out "how umask worked" So it should be easier to do now  Thanks anyway
[02:04] <LiMpKiN> oups
[02:04] <shriphani> mounting a USB floppy in linux
[02:05] <LiMpKiN> i forgot it's an english chan
[02:05] <Sub> LiMpKiN, mon francais tres mal, #ubuntu-fr ??
[02:05] <shriphani> i created mount points etc
[02:05] <Schalken> can someone tell me why opengl works in suse but not in ubuntu?
[02:05] <LiMpKiN> i just wanted to know when the dapper draker will be available :
[02:05] <Sub> Schalken, it works in ubuntu
[02:05] <LiMpKiN> :)
[02:05] <shriphani> now i need to mount it once so that linux automatically detects it from the next time
[02:05] <spikeb> june first LiMpKiN
[02:05] <Sub> LiMpKiN, june 1st :D
[02:05] <Corey> I have an apache-2 server and its really strict and stuff how can I let dreamweaver 8 write files to it ?
[02:05] <Schalken> sub: not for me it doesnt
[02:05] <LiMpKiN> furst, yeahhh
[02:05] <LiMpKiN> first*
[02:05] <spikeb> LiMpKiN: the release candidate is out now if you dont want to wait
[02:05] <Sub> Schalken, what card u got
[02:06] <Sub> shriphani, usb SHOULD auto mount in ubuntu
[02:06] <Corey>  I have an apache-2 server and its really strict and stuff how can I let dreamweaver 8 write files to it ?
[02:06] <LiMpKiN> i want to have the final version... so i can wait
[02:06] <Schalken> sis 661fx
[02:06] <Schalken> onboard
[02:06] <LiMpKiN> anyway, i'll have to del my windows ;)
[02:06] <shriphani> USB floppy sub
[02:06] <Sub> ahh, onboard is always picky...
[02:06] <Sub> shriphani, yes, usb floppy will be detected as a usbdrive.
[02:07] <Schalken> Sub: well why it not work in ubuntu but it works perfectly in suse
[02:07] <shriphani> it currently is not
[02:07] <Sub> like stick a floppy into it, then plug it in, "usbdrive" should appear on the desktop.
[02:07] <Corey>  I have an apache-2 server and its really strict and stuff how can I let dreamweaver 8 write files to it ?
[02:07] <shriphani> so i created mount points and /etc/fstab
[02:07] <Sub> Schalken, push Alt-F2 and type "glxgears"
[02:07] <LiMpKiN> then, thanks :D
[02:07] <Sub> what do you see?
[02:07] <ccjames> Hi, I've upgrade flight6 to current,when opening evolution I get the error "Error while storing the folder 'Inbox' Summary and folder mismatch even after a sync"  Can anyone offer any advice please?
[02:07] <shriphani> the tutorial says mount it once
[02:07] <Corey>  I have an apache-2 server and its really strict and stuff how can I let dreamweaver 8 write files to it ?
[02:07] <spikeb> why is it that redhat is the only one who's come close to making a meta-desktop distro work decently?
[02:07] <shriphani> then it should be detected all the while
[02:07] <Sub> shriphani, fstab is only ran on boot and on mount -a
[02:07] <spikeb> novell STILL can't get it right
[02:07] <Schalken> Sub: nothing, the run box dissapeared why i hit enter
[02:07] <shriphani> yups
[02:08] <shriphani> i mean i did it last time
[02:08] <shriphani> but i switched systems and the thing has gone out of my head
[02:08] <Sub> Corey, stop asking questions repeatdly, if no1 knows now, come back later and try, or post at www.ubuntuforums.org, its an apache question anyway, not ubuntu
[02:08] <rusher> hello
[02:08] <Sub> shriphani, sounds odd.
[02:08] <shriphani> yup
[02:09] <shriphani> quite
[02:09] <jcs_> can anyone recommend a good disk image program for Dapper ? i want to be able to make my own custom unattended bootable Dapper image
[02:09] <Sub> shriphani, i have no expereince with usb floppy drives, might be worth posting on the forum?
[02:09] <Schalken> Sub: if i run glxgears in the terminal i get "Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual"
[02:09] <Sub> jcs_ mot here
[02:09] <Sub> !dapper
[02:09] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[02:09] <shriphani> ubuntuforums.org ?
[02:09] <jcs_> ahh ok sorry
[02:09] <Sub> no worries
[02:09] <Sub> yes shriphani
[02:09] <shriphani> ok
[02:09] <Sub> Schalken, and your sure you have the correct driver for your card?
[02:10] <Schalken> i dont even think there is a linux driver for my card. i havent found one. thats why i was wondering how the hell it worked in suse
[02:10] <Sub> Schalken, if it worked in suse, there must be a driver that works for it.
[02:11] <igorzolnikov> how i can connect to ftp-server with windows dir-like listing...?
[02:11] <shriphani> ok what do i specify as the file system type for a floppy
[02:11] <Sub> might be worth googling around for, then run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to pick the correct driver
[02:11] <rixxon> ubuntu uses au.archive, can i tell it to use se.archive?
[02:11] <Sub> shriphani, vfat is a safe bet
[02:11] <shriphani> ok
[02:11] <vbgunz> two more days until dapper becomes final :)
[02:12] <Sub> igorzolnikov, use "gftp" or nautilus can connect to ftp servers
[02:13] <Sub> ill be back later
[02:13] <Sub> see you guys
[02:13] <MadMerC> hi guys im tryin to install some Tk thingo but when i try to do a makefile or run it im told that the file or directory doesnt exist
[02:13] <rixxon> vbgunz: i just installed rc1, will final differ alot?
[02:13] <_Rappy_> how do I delete the whe printinqueue in the terminal window?
[02:14] <vbgunz> rixxon: not sure, I've been using it for a long time now... it's been great, looks great and runs great... just thought I remind the world about June 1st
[02:14] <nox-hand> Hey guys
[02:14] <nox-hand> Just thought I'd say, that upgrade doesn't tak the long :D
[02:14] <rixxon> vbgunz: will _you_ install final? :P
[02:14] <nox-hand> I have about 25 mins left of my upgrade :D
[02:15] <MadMerC> im in the folder that the makefile.pl is in but when i run sudo perl Makefile.Pl im told it doesnt exist can anyone help
[02:15] <vbgunz> rixxon: of course, I am using it now and will upgrade ;)
[02:15] <rixxon> MadMerC: sudo perl makefile.pl
[02:15] <rixxon> MadMerC: (case sensitive)
[02:15] <Aleks-0> hello i need help
[02:15] <shriphani> root@ubuntu:/home/shriphani# mount /mnt/usbfd
[02:15] <shriphani> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[02:15] <Aleks-0> i start my stsrem ubuntu now
[02:15] <shriphani> this is what i get Sub
[02:15] <MadMerC> the actual file is Makefile.Pl not makefile.pl
[02:15] <Aleks-0> and it not give me graphic login
[02:15] <Aleks-0> it give me login like dos
[02:15] <nox-hand> It's actually very quick 0_o I have been working with it for about 40 mins now, and before that it was just the download that took time =)
[02:15] <Aleks-0> Ubuntu 5.10 "Vreezt badger" Aleks tty1
[02:16] <Aleks-0> Aleks login:
[02:16] <Aleks-0> how i can make it with kde login graphic ..
[02:16] <rixxon> MadMerC: try tabbing, M<tab>
[02:16] <nox-hand> But, I have no Xchat right now ='( Ubuntu deleted it X)
[02:16] <MadMerC> rixxon what do you mean by tabbing ?? im a n00b to linux
[02:16] <spikeb> Aleks-0: install kdm
[02:16] <Sub> shriphani, mount  -t vfat /dev/usbfd /mnt/usbfd
[02:17] <Sub> i guess the /dev/ put in what it should be
[02:17] <rixxon> MadMerC: me too :) - i mean type 'sudo perl M' and press tab and see what it does
[02:17] <shriphani> ok
[02:17] <Sub> nox-hand, "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[02:17] <moodyGit`> tabbing??
[02:17] <nox-hand> MadMerC: No problem, mate, we've all been there. I started ~3/4 year ago. Now, I know quite a bit :)
[02:17] <nox-hand> Sub: Well, duh.
[02:17] <nox-hand> ;)
[02:17] <MadMerC> rixxon i will try that now
[02:17] <Sub> well dont complain about it :D
[02:17] <nox-hand> Sub: It shall install itself in a moment, it just hasn't gotten there yet. I am upgrading from Breezy to Dapper
[02:18] <Sub> nox-hand, ahh.
[02:18] <nox-hand> Sub: did I complain? Note the X) at the end of the post ;)
[02:18] <MadMerC> rixxon it says the Makefile.Pl is there
[02:18] <Sub> i saw ( and ), thought it was btackets :D
[02:18] <nox-hand> Sub: Amazing so quick the upgrade is :D
[02:18] <MadMerC> oh hang on i think i worked it out lol the .Pl is actually .PL :P
[02:19] <Sub> nox-hand, i upgraded, so nice now, but if its dapper related, #ubuntu+1 is probably a abetter place, some people get shitty with dapper talk in here
[02:19] <rixxon> MadMerC: that was why i wanted you to tab it :>
[02:19] <spikeb> !swear
[02:19] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, spikeb
[02:19] <spikeb> bah
[02:19] <spikeb> sub don't swear.
[02:19] <shriphani> werking Sub
[02:19] <MadMerC> ahh it wont work properly anyway lol
[02:19] <Aleks-0> spikeb pls help me
[02:20] <shriphani> i can see external floppy drive in nautilus
[02:20] <spikeb> Aleks-0: with what?
[02:20] <GaiaX11> I am trying to access another computer through ssh. But when i do: ssh username@ipnumber it hangs and don't ask me the password. Any help?
[02:20] <shriphani> thanx a lot
[02:20] <Aleks-0> i start my system ubuntu 5.10 now
[02:20] <Aleks-0> and it not give me graphic login
[02:20] <Aleks-0> it give me login like dos
[02:20] <MadMerC> rixxon can you decipher this ??
[02:20] <Aleks-0> Ubuntu 5.10 "bla bla" Aleks tty1
[02:20] <Aleks-0> Aleks login:
[02:20] <shriphani> Aleks-0, what is going on
[02:20] <MadMerC> rixxon Problem gettimeofday()
[02:20] <MadMerC> Using -L/usr/lib to find /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0
[02:20] <MadMerC> Cannot find X include files via /usr/include
[02:20] <MadMerC> Cannot find X include files anywhere at ./myConfig line 312.
[02:20] <MadMerC> Compilation failed in require at Makefile.PL line 17.
[02:20] <MadMerC> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Makefile.PL line 19.
[02:20] <spikeb> !paste
[02:20] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[02:20] <shriphani> i mean did you delete gnome
[02:20] <Sub> spikeb, i didnt?
[02:21] <Aleks-0> i like to see kde login page
[02:21] <Sub> shriphani, excellent :D
[02:21] <Aleks-0> now when i start ubuntu it give me
[02:21] <Aleks-0> login like a dos
[02:21] <shriphani> thank you very much
[02:21] <spikeb> somebody did
[02:21] <Aleks-0> with command
[02:21] <Aleks-0> i dont have
[02:21] <shriphani> ok carry out the login
[02:21] <spikeb> ah yes you did.
[02:21] <Aleks-0> graphic interface
[02:21] <Sub> oh yeah i said shitty lol, my bad.
[02:21] <shriphani> carry out the login
[02:21] <Aleks-0> so ?
[02:21] <MadMerC> oh did i do something rong by pastein that stuff ??? sorry
[02:21] <Sub> dude it's the internet, a dirty mouth is the least of anyones worries
[02:21] <shriphani> and then we can use aptitude or apt-get to check what is going on
[02:22] <Aleks-0> spikeb .. :(
[02:22] <aLPHa_LeaK> Aleks-0: type startx
[02:22] <Aleks-0> noting ..
[02:22] <Aleks-0> i have to type it
[02:22] <Aleks-0> as root ?
[02:23] <sexcopter8000m> there's something i don't quite get with dapper. it's been delayed by 6 weeks in order to make it extra stable and supportable, does that mean future releases will be every 6 subsequent months? And what is this Dapper+1 business all about?
[02:23] <Aleks-0> wow it start :D
[02:23] <Aleks-0> thanks
[02:23] <Aleks-0> thanks
[02:23] <shriphani> :)
[02:23] <GaiaX11> How do i access another PC through SSH?
[02:24] <shriphani> GaiaX11, ssh address
[02:24] <regsvr32> i have an idea about bittorrent.
[02:24] <Sub> GaiaX11, jus "ssh user@remotepc
[02:24] <Herzfieber> huh
[02:25] <Herzfieber> huhu
[02:25] <Sub> GaiaX11, where remotepc is either an I.P or domain name
[02:25] <GaiaX11> I have done this: ssh username@ipnumber but does not work
[02:25] <shriphani> and guys why doesnt bit torrent find its meta file on my ubuntu ?
[02:25] <MadMerC> man everytime i try to install things with the term is doesnt work properly
[02:25] <Jimmey__> MadMerC, what's the error
[02:25] <shriphani> GaiaX11, did you install ssh-keys ?
[02:25] <Sub> GaiaX11, on the remote pc, is ther an ssh server and the ports are forwarded correctly?
[02:26] <GaiaX11> I will see.
[02:26] <MadMerC> Jimmey__ well i just ran sudo perl Makefile.PL and that worked but now the readme says to run make but it says there is no file etc
[02:26] <Jimmey__> What are you trying to install?
[02:26] <MadMerC> Goe-IPfree
[02:26] <another_lemur> hi
[02:26] <MadMerC> lol Geo*
[02:27] <Jimmey__> sexcopter8000m, the channel #ubuntu+1 is for Dapper related chat
[02:27] <sexcopter8000m> Jimmey__, ok thanks
[02:27] <Jimmey__> Just "Geo", MadMerC?
[02:27] <regsvr32> i think if i invite some friends' idle machines to join a torrent (where i am a peer), it will benefit the swarm, or specifically, myself.
[02:27] <MadMerC> Jimmey__ no Geo-IPfree
[02:28] <chainlynx> hey how does one boot up without starting the X server?  I tried to follow some instructions for redhat and it just ended up changing my root password
[02:28] <Jimmey__> MadMerC,  it's in the repositories. Try "sudo apt-get install libgeo-ipfree-perl"
[02:28] <MadMerC> Jimmey__ what i actually want to install is ghoti but i need a few other things first :P
[02:28] <nox-hand> Shhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooot <swears loudly>
[02:28] <MadMerC> Jimmey__ ok i'll have a look
[02:28] <nox-hand> My PC crashed || Power failed
[02:28] <Corey> I cant see the text in firefox its white
[02:29] <Corey> how do i change thart ?
[02:29] <nox-hand> I was upgrading to Dapper from Breezy
[02:29] <nox-hand> Now X will not start
[02:29] <nox-hand> What can I do? -_-
[02:29] <Jimmey__> nox-hand, what error are you getting
[02:29] <MadMerC> is dapper good ???
[02:29] <nox-hand> Jimmey__: A blank screen, and no ability to go to another terminal
[02:29] <zsh> hi. i have a problem with synaptic. the repositories just wont load
[02:29] <nox-hand> The only way I got here, was booting recovery mode :|
[02:30] <Jimmey__> nox-hand, try CTRL + ALT + F1
[02:30] <richiefrich> anyone use qemu ?
[02:30] <Pixel1983> MadMerC, yes, but you won't like gnome-screensaver.
[02:30] <Sub> MadMerC, a few improvements yes, at this point may as well wait until final is released on june 1st
[02:30] <chainlynx> zsh, try editing your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:30] <nox-hand> Jimmey__: I know, didn't work
[02:30] <another_lemur> zsh, have you verified your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[02:30] <nox-hand> Now I am in recovery mode.
[02:30] <MadMerC> ok kewl i will wait then :P
[02:30] <nox-hand> Jimmey__: I think it had just come to the X libs, perhaps
[02:30] <Jimmey__> Oh, on the install
[02:30] <nox-hand> How can I start the package upgrade thing from cli?
[02:30] <nox-hand> Shoot, I only have one terminal in recovery mode
[02:31] <glutexo> Hello. I've installed Ubuntu for the first time and I would like to ask someone for help. Would be someone so kind?
[02:31] <Jimmey__> glutexo, what's the problem
[02:31] <zsh> chainlynx: what should i edit it to
[02:31] <Jimmey__> nox-hand, I've no idea..
[02:31] <nox-hand> I used some sudodpg(ISH)command update -d
[02:31] <nox-hand> And I cannot remember who helped me..
[02:31] <GaiaX11> Sub, these are the packages installed in my system. Am i missing anything? (openssh-client and ssh-askpass-gnome)
[02:32] <another_lemur> nox-hand, gksudo updatemanager -d perhaps?
[02:32] <another_lemur> nox-hand, gksudo update-manager -d perhaps?
[02:32] <Sub> GaiaX11, openssh-client should be suffcient
[02:32] <nox-hand> another_lemur: something like that, yes.
[02:32] <nox-hand> Not sure about the update-manager.
[02:32] <glutexo> Jimmey__, I would like to share my internet connection with two other computers.. on Windows I used something called network bridge.
[02:32] <nox-hand> Thought it was just update
[02:32] <another_lemur> nox-hand,  i missed the dash
[02:32] <nox-hand> another_lemur: But isn't that from X only?
[02:32] <Sub> GaiaX11, it might be a problem on the remote pc
[02:32] <nox-hand> I am in CLI
[02:32] <Jimmey__> glutexo, then I can recommend Firestarter.
[02:33] <Jimmey__> glutexo, that will make the process of sharing an internet connection simpler.
[02:33] <zsh> another_lemur: i cant see any problem with sources.list
[02:33] <another_lemur> nox-hand, yes, crom the text terminal, try sudo apt-get update
[02:33] <another_lemur> ^crom^from
[02:34] <nox-hand> another_lemur: from cli, sudo apt-get update. I shall try. Thanks. I shall have to exit irssi, as I only have one terminal in recovery mode. bbl to tell result
[02:34] <nox-hand> Okay?
[02:34] <MadMerC> Jimmey__ i couldnt find it the way u sed but i found it thru synaptic
[02:34] <zsh> chainlynx: ok.
[02:34] <GaiaX11> Sub, which packages the remote pc need to have? Only client as well? Or ssh-server as well?
[02:35] <another_lemur> nox-hand, can you use control-z tp background your irc client?  the use the fg command to bring it back
[02:35] <glutexo> Jimmey__, Okay, thank you. I'll try to get Firestarter.
[02:35] <Sub> GaiaX11, it will need openssh-server, and it will need to have port 22 open.
[02:35] <Jimmey__> glutexo, "sudo apt-get install firestarter"
[02:35] <another_lemur> zsh, which repositories are giving you trouble?
[02:36] <Jimmey__> MadMerC, try "sudo apt-get install geoip-bin"
[02:36] <GaiaX11> Sub, how do i open that port? Through a firewall?
[02:37] <Sub> GaiaX11, your firewall will need to allow that port, and if you use a router, that will need to port forward it too.
[02:37] <GaiaX11> Sub, many thanks for now.
[02:38] <zsh> another_lemur: all of them
[02:38] <another_lemur> zsh, when you run sudo apt-get update, what happens?
[02:38] <MadMerC> Jimmy__ i found the other file u mentioned thru synaptic is that the rite one or should i do the one u just sed ???
[02:39] <MadMerC> Jimmey__ ^
[02:39] <glutexo> Jimmey__, It looks like it is installed.. I hope I will be able to configure it wel..
[02:40] <zsh> another_lemur i havent tried that yet
[02:41] <another_lemur> zsh, that command checks allthe respositores for updatesed information and caches package information on your computer
[02:41] <glutexo> Jimmey__, Firestarter says that network device eth0 is not ready. Unfortunately I don't know how to get it ready.
[02:41] <another_lemur> nox-hand, can you use control-z tp background your irc client?  the use the fg command to bring it back
[02:41] <nox-Hand> another_lemur: Hey
[02:42] <nox-Hand> another_lemur: Dunno, I just turned on my serverpc, which I use irssi on now
[02:42] <aytekin> turk yok mu???????
[02:42] <another_lemur> nox-hand, to upgrade sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:42] <chainlynx> turk var!
[02:42] <nox-Hand> another_lemur: I did that command, and it gave me an error, then told me to do this:
[02:42] <nox-Hand> dpkg --configure -a
[02:42] <henry54> no ops but 721 user on this channel? wow...
[02:43] <nox-Hand> Now it's configuring lots of packages.
[02:43] <nox-Hand> another_lemur: So, is that good?
[02:43] <nox-Hand> The command I did
[02:43] <Seveas> henry54, is that a problem? 
[02:43] <another_lemur> nox-Hand, well, we shall see
[02:44] <MadMerC> grrr does anyone know if ghoti is even any good ??
[02:44] <aytekin> mudur turkce yazamiyorum
[02:44] <another_lemur> nox-Hand,  my dpkg manpage does not have either of the options you listed
[02:44] <Seveas> aytekin, english please
[02:44] <Seveas> !tr
[02:44] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu.tr hizmetinizde.
[02:44] <Seveas> !tr =~ s/.tr/-tr/
[02:44] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[02:45] <nox-Hand> another_lemur: Anywho, I shall be up in ~20 mins. That's how long I had left of the upgrade, so I shall estimate that's what time it'll take. It was apt-get update that told me to do that manually, as it couldn't for some reason.
[02:45] <aytekin> I m not  writing turkish char
[02:46] <zsh> another_lemur: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:46] <zsh> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:46] <nox-Hand> Bbl, please PM me if anything comes up
[02:46] <another_lemur> zsh,  is /var mounted?  did you use sudo?
[02:46] <MadMerC> whats a good IRC cliet to use ??
[02:46] <nox-Hand> MadMerC: irssi :P
[02:46] <another_lemur> nox-Hand, ok
[02:46] <rixxon> MadMerC: irssi, xchat
[02:46] <nox-Hand> No, xchat for you, I think
[02:46] <MadMerC> im currently on X-Char
[02:46] <zsh> another_lemur: yes i used sudo. let me try again
[02:46] <Jimmey__> glutexo, do you still need some help?
[02:46] <MadMerC> X-Chat*
[02:46] <rixxon> MadMerC: i prefer irssi but xchat is probably more beginner friendly
[02:47] <another_lemur> zsh, it sounds like another update program is running
[02:47] <MadMerC> im ok with IRC i used to use it on Winbloze a wile back
[02:47] <MadMerC> rixxon can i get irssi thru synaptic ??
[02:47] <zsh> another_lenur:no
[02:47] <rixxon> MadMerC: well, irssi is console, xchat is graphical
[02:47] <regebro> Why does my attempts at fsck on a USB key first ask me what to change, and then, when I told it, it sais "Leaving file system unchanged."?
[02:47] <Jimmey__> MadMerC, search for it
[02:47] <rixxon> MadMerC: you have irssi
[02:47] <zsh> another_lemur:no
[02:47] <glutexo> Jimmey__, Firestarters complains about that eth device is not ready, I think I should activate the network card somehow, but I dont know..
[02:47] <regebro> It's some sort of FAT system.
[02:48] <another_lemur> zsh, are you running X?
[02:48] <Jimmey__> glutexo, are you chatting to me from the Ubuntu machine?
[02:48] <glutexo> Jimmey__, Yes, I am.
[02:48] <kaiSVK> hi
[02:48] <kaiSVK> I am new to ubuntu
[02:48] <kaiSVK> trying to install
[02:48] <zsh> another_lemur: yes. should i restart it?
[02:48] <kaiSVK> but it freeze UI think on the graphic ATI X200
[02:48] <another_lemur> zsh, no I just wanted to verify your environment
[02:48] <glutexo> Jimmey__, I think that the device connected to the Internet is the only activated eth device.
[02:49] <kaiSVK> how can I set-up text mode installer ?
[02:49] <Jimmey__> glutexo, can you PM me the output of ifconfig
[02:49] <aytekin> beni anlayan var mi??????
[02:50] <kaiSVK> hello
[02:50] <zsh> another_lemur: do you know the specific entries i should make in sources.list
[02:50] <another_lemur> zsh, can you list the lock file?  ls -l  /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[02:50] <kaiSVK> I need to text install
[02:50] <another_lemur> zsh, can you PM me your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[02:51] <zsh> another_lemur: ok
[02:51] <root> hi me :P
[02:51] <MadMerC> haha kewl
[02:51] <another_lemur> zsh, along with the output of uname -r and cat /etc/issue
[02:51] <nomin> is it possible to install .deb packages on ubuntu?
[02:51] <Jimmey__> nomin, yes
[02:51] <chainlynx> zsh, look at this http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#Repositories
[02:51] <root> how do i change my name in here ???
[02:51] <Jimmey__> !deb
[02:51] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[02:52] <another_lemur> root, use /nick newname
[02:52] <zsh> chainlynx:ok
[02:52] <Eric> kewl thanx
[02:52] <kaiSVK> this is the UBUNTU community _
[02:52] <kaiSVK> ?
[02:52] <kaiSVK> I need to know how to do text install
[02:52] <MadMerC> its easier to see whats goin on in xchat
[02:52] <nomin> I would like to install qjoypad, but it's not available for ubuntu
[02:53] <nomin> http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/
[02:53] <Jimmey__> nomin, hang on
[02:53] <another_lemur> nomin, you could compile it from source
[02:53] <Eric> everything seems a bit messy in irssi
[02:53] <nomin> I've never built anything from source before.  I'm still fairly new to linux stuff.
[02:54] <nomin> I think qjoypad should be a part of every distro
[02:54] <Jimmey__> nomin, download the .deb, and use dpkg to install it
[02:54] <Jimmey__> !deb
[02:54] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[02:54] <Eric> how do i update  my ubuntu ??
[02:54] <nathansnook> Is there a way to convert an RPM to a DEB file
[02:54] <glutexo> Jimmey__, I PMed you the output of ifconfig, I am afraid some lines are localized to Czech, I hope this is not a big problem.
[02:54] <Sub> nathansnook, alien
[02:54] <LogicalDash> nathansnook, sudo alien (filename)
[02:54] <Sub> !rpm
[02:54] <ubotu> hmm... rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debian's DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[02:55] <Sub> !alien
[02:55] <ubotu> hmm... alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[02:55] <zsh> another_lemur: for some reason apt-get is working now
[02:55] <nomin> qjoypad is for joysticks/controllers.  It emulates keypresses and the mouse.  I don't know why it's not available for ubuntu yet.  I haven't seen anything for emulating the keyboard with a joystick on ubuntu yet.
[02:56] <LogicalDash> My sound has stopped working for some reason. First it was working fine, then it would only work with headphones and only some programs, now I'm not getting anything at all. Help?
[02:56] <Godfather--> hello
[02:56] <nomin> I think dapper drake should have qjoypad available for it.
[02:56] <Jimmey__> nomin, download the .deb, and use dpkg to install it
[02:56] <Jimmey__> !deb
[02:56] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[02:56] <nomin> ok Jimmey__, I'll try that.  Thanks.
[02:57] <Eric> how can i update from breezy to dapper ???
[02:57] <nathansnook> Here is another question then I am coming from a RPM based environment and what top know where to obtain deb packages.  It seems that RPMS are all over but DEB is something that I have seen little of
[02:57] <B0FH> is dapper ready for use seeing as it is so very close to release?
[02:57] <Chousuke> Wait until release.
[02:57] <Sub> nathansnook, if you want to download things, use apt-get
[02:57] <itsmorefun> # $Id: pptpd-options 4255 2004-10-03 18:44:00Z rene $
[02:57] <itsmorefun> #
[02:57] <itsmorefun> # Sample Poptop PPP options file /etc/ppp/pptpd-options
[02:57] <itsmorefun> # Options used by PPP when a connection arrives from a client.
[02:57] <itsmorefun> # This file is pointed to by /etc/pptpd.conf option keyword.
[02:57] <itsmorefun> # Changes are effective on the next connection.  See "man pppd".
[02:57] <itsmorefun> #
[02:57] <Sub> or for a new users, synaptic might be better
[02:57] <itsmorefun> # You are expected to change this file to suit your system.  As
[02:57] <zsh> another_lemur: however its getting to a point then stalling
[02:57] <itsmorefun> # packaged, it requires PPP 2.4.2 and the kernel MPPE module.
[02:57] <Chousuke> B0FH: or, actually.
[02:58] <itsmorefun> how know if mppe is in the kernel?
[02:58] <another_lemur> zsh, I'm glad to hear that.  Perhaps another update process was already running?
[02:58] <Chousuke> B0FH: Maybe it'd be better to update now.
[02:58] <nathansnook> does apt-get come it with the --help ability
[02:58] <B0FH> ok will do
[02:58] <another_lemur> zsh, stalling?  or downloading?
[02:58] <Chousuke> B0FH: the servers are going to be bogged on release day .D
[02:58] <Sub> nathansnook, goto System-Admin-Synaptic Package Manager and search for anything you need.
[02:58] <nathansnook> sub >>I perfer command line if that makes any sense
[02:58] <Eric> how do i update my breezy to dapper ??
[02:59] <glutexo> Jimmey__, I think I managed to configure my other eth card.. but I am unsure how to build a network bridge.
[02:59] <Sub> nathansnook, welll "apt-cache search" to find packages, then "sudo apt-get install" to install them
[03:00] <Sub> apt is probably the most powerful package management system
[03:00] <Sub> better than rpms
[03:00] <Sub> i hated rpms in suse.
[03:00] <nathansnook> Sub >> Thanks for the info.  Making it easy to migrate to Ubuntu
[03:00] <another_lemur> sub, i haded suse
[03:00] <another_lemur> sub, hated :)
[03:01] <MadMerC> whats the dapper channel ??
[03:01] <MadMerC> !dapper
[03:01] <Sub> my first taste of linux was suse. taught me alot, but ubuntu has been the best linux distro ive used, and ive been try alot
[03:01] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[03:01] <spikeb> apt can't  be compared to rpm.
[03:02] <Jimmey__> Why
[03:02] <Jimmey__> ?
[03:02] <Sub> because apt solves dependencies automaticallu
[03:02] <I-CEE> help<<<<<<<< linux noob
[03:02] <Sub> rpms dont
[03:02] <Sub> !ask
[03:02] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:02] <spikeb> no, not because of that.
[03:02] <spikeb> because apt is a metapackager, and rpm is not.
[03:02] <spikeb> rpm is comparable to dpkg.
[03:02] <Sub> that was why i like it so much.
[03:03] <Sub> true.
[03:03] <spikeb> yum is comparable to apt.
[03:03] <spikeb> (and sucks in comparison)
[03:03] <Sub> ahh, suse has a thing liek apt
[03:03] <Sub> YUM thats it.
[03:03] <Sub> yes it does.
[03:03] <MistaED> is apt4rpm just as good as regular apt with deb?
[03:03] <spikeb> suse now has like eight different ways of doing meta-package management heh
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> MistaED,  i dont think so.
[03:03] <Sub> lol
[03:03] <highvoltage> why so many?
[03:03] <spikeb> MistaED: it's unmaintained.
[03:03] <Sub> suse has 8 different ways to do ANYTHING
[03:03] <Tezzer44> any one know when dapper is going to be released?
[03:03] <spikeb> highvoltage: novell can't make up their mind
[03:03] <another_lemur> !dapper
[03:03] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[03:04] <Sub> thats why i didnt like it, too bloated
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> when its done. :P
[03:04] <MistaED> suse is in such a mess though with package management, very much the weakest point of the distro atm
[03:04] <spikeb> i actually like suse a lot more since novell took over - but still.
[03:04] <Tezzer44> arse
[03:04] <Sub> well i had suse since 9.3
[03:04] <skippy> Tezzer44 June 1st
[03:04] <fLy-> MistaED: an app called "Smart" now exists for suse packaging
[03:04] <fLy-> works great
[03:04] <Seveas> Tezzer44, in 2 days
[03:04] <Tezzer44> 1st of june where?
[03:04] <fLy-> uses apt/yum/yast2/ftp repos
[03:04] <LinuxJones> Let's keep it on-topic guys.
[03:05] <spikeb> fLy-: along with yum, yast, and rug
[03:05] <fLy-> is anyone using fedora directory server on dapper?
[03:06] <kaiSVK> !download
[03:06] <ubotu> download is probably get Ubuntu LiveCD & install ISOs at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and if you need information on burning ISOs, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[03:06] <skippy> hey any of you guys running xgl/compiz on gnome? Most of my programs are windoweded, but a few (VLC, bittorrent) dont have window frames. Any way of fixingit?
[03:06] <kaiSVK> where can I download ubuntu 6.06 ???
[03:06] <spikeb> !rc
[03:06] <ubotu> The release candidate for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. For more info on how to get the release candidate see http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/
[03:07] <chainlynx> Hey how do you manually stop the x server?  I'm trying to install some graphics drivers and Ctrl+Alt+F1ing but it says the x server is still running
[03:07] <I-CEE> has any one got a good link to a good dvd player
[03:07] <skippy> control alt backspace
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> chainlynx,  also try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:08] <nox-Hand> another_lemur: Hey
[03:08] <igorzolnikov> how can i install mysql for ubuntu 6.06?
[03:08] <another_lemur> nox-Hand, hi
[03:08] <Jimmey__> I-CEE, Totem can play DVDs, see the "DVDs" section of the link I'm about to send
[03:08] <nox-Hand> I just did apt-get update, and that completed
[03:08] <I-CEE> thx
[03:08] <nox-Hand> Now, when I did apt-get dist-upgrade, it only needed four packages upgraded =)
[03:08] <nox-Hand> So, I should have it all =D
[03:08] <another_lemur> nox-Hand, to upgrade follow it with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:09] <nox-Hand> another_lemur: I did it =)
[03:09] <another_lemur> nox-Hand, good luck :)
[03:09] <I-CEE> thx jimmy
[03:09] <irelandshope> I hate Realplayer but I really want to watch realplayer streams from the BBC web site is there an alternative to installing Realplayer for Linux?
[03:10] <nox-Hand> another_lemur: Thanks =) Argh, stupid server room... My server is in my sisters 'closet room', and she just throws stuff all over the place. I just cut open my knee on a peice of metal on the floor whilst kneeling at my server.....
[03:10] <liquidindian> Is there a way to check that ubuntu has updated properly?  To Dapper?
[03:10] <liquidindian> !codecs
[03:10] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[03:10] <liquidindian> !easysource
[03:10] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:11] <LinuxJones> liquidindian, if you system re-boots properly it worked
[03:11] <liquidindian> LinuxJones, okay then :)
[03:12] <another_lemur> nox-Hand, ouch!  One must be careful when coming out of the closet.  ;)
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> 0_o
[03:12] <chainlynx> hey for some reason Ctrl+Alt+Backspace reset my root password and now i cant login as root... help????
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> !root
[03:12] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:12] <nomin> irelandshope, I have used the kaffeine plugin before to play realplayer videos.
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> login as a user, then use sudo
[03:13] <another_lemur> chainlynx, that key combo only exits X
[03:13] <nomin> irelandshope, I'm not sure if you already need realplayer installed in order for kaffeine to play the videos, though.
[03:13] <nox-Hand> another_lemur: It's just a room, but she throws all her stuff in here. It seems it was a PC chassis side door, that she has moved from my stack of neatly packed stuff ;) Put that under a towel, and you have yourself a murderweapon 0_o
[03:13] <mwe> just the codecs, no?
[03:14] <irelandshope> nomin is kaffeine a firefox plugin?
[03:14] <nan_> bu!
[03:14] <nan_> que mal hablais...
[03:14] <nan_> no se entiende nada...
[03:14] <mwe> nan_: english only, please
[03:14] <another_lemur> nan_, hola /join #ubuntu-es
[03:14] <nan_> aaa!
[03:15] <nan_> algien coherente!
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> irelandshope,  gxine player plugin is Trying to play the bbc video clip for me.. :P its just not doing it yet. lol
[03:15] <nomin> irelandshope, kaffeine is a media player.  You need to install kaffeine-mozilla separately to play embedded videos.
[03:15] <another_lemur> mwe, nan_ was distressed that he could not understand the channel
[03:15] <mwe> heh
[03:16] <irelandshope> nomin Coll Ill try that
[03:16] <another_lemur> !es
[03:16] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:16] <nomin> irelandshope, I personally have no problem with realplayer.  The only flaw I see in realplayer is that it does not maximinze embedded videos on linux.
[03:16] <nan_> ok!
[03:16] <nan_> i go!
[03:16] <igorzolnikov> how can i install mysql for ubuntu 6.06?
[03:17] <mwe> igorzolnikov: sudo apt-get install mysql
[03:17] <Paradoxx> Seveas: has anyone here used freenx?
[03:17] <mwe> igorzolnikov: or mysql-server, rather
[03:17] <igorzolnikov> ok
[03:17] <mwe> igorzolnikov: i asume you need the server?
[03:17] <Paradoxx> yep
[03:18] <another_lemur> igorzolnikov, which version wouldyou like?
[03:18] <nox-Hand> another_lemur: I found my X problem
[03:18] <Hajuu> hey guys. having some trouble working with midi with my soundblaster live.. like using sequencers etc etc... dont even know what to look for.. anyone got any ideas?
[03:18] <nox-Hand> the upgrade deleted nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common
[03:18] <irelandshope> nomin the problem I have with it is on the windows side it installs so much crap and trys to associate itself with all your media files and dont even talk about the mesage centre. As I am now switching to open source I want to try and stick will all open source stuff.
[03:18] <nox-Hand> So, I could not use my xorg.conf ^^
[03:18] <kermitX_> igorzolnikov: depends on the version you want. but installing the mysql-server will give you 5, and mysql-server-4.1 will give you well, 4.1
[03:18] <Paradoxx> Neone here used freenx before?
[03:19] <chainlynx> where is the compiler used to compile the linux kernel located?
[03:19] <another_lemur> nox-Hand, and is it all sorted out>
[03:19] <Healot> Paradoxx: not me
[03:19] <another_lemur> chainlynx, /usr/bin/gcc if you have installed gcc
[03:20] <nomin> irelandshope, realplayer on linux is different.  It doesn't have all the B.S. it has on windows.
[03:20] <nox-Hand> another_lemur: Now it is. Wow, I just entered GNOME. I heard they made it quicker somehow, but this much?! :o
[03:20] <nomin> irelandshope, I use realplayer when it is opened externally on linux.  It works great in that scenario.
[03:20] <Hajuu> hey guys. having some trouble working with midi with my soundblaster live.. like using sequencers etc etc... dont even know what to look for.. anyone got any ideas?
[03:20] <Seveas> Paradoxx, I use freenx myself 
[03:22] <nomin> irelandshope, you may need to uninstall the totem plugin for mozilla in order to play streaming windows media videos.
[03:22] <Healot> Hajuu: I think, to enable midi sequencer of an SB, you need to supply some SB parameter to the kernel entry in Grub/Lilo
[03:22] <Hajuu> sounds really scary
[03:22] <Hajuu> and un-ubuntu
[03:23] <irelandshope> Thats a relief Ill give it a try. I was just about to ask what you use to play Windows Media Streams?
[03:23] <nomin> irelandshope, here is a good site to test realplayer and windows media videos:  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/view/
[03:23] <Paradoxx> Seveas: I get this error 'Cannot start the local x server'
[03:23] <Healot> there is something about SB, Hajuu
[03:23] <Seveas> windows client?
[03:23] <Healot> applies to most Linux distro I think
[03:23] <Paradoxx> Seveas: yep
[03:23] <igorzolnikov> where can i found radio channel for  Rhythmbox?
[03:23] <Seveas> can't help with that, I use it for lin-lin only
[03:23] <guptan> Is there any difference between Drapper RC Desktop CD's Firefox and Firefox from Drapper RC installed to HDD?
[03:24] <Paradoxx> Seveas: kk, well, how do you know if the freenx client on the win side is workin?
[03:24] <AnAnt> where can I get hal-pmount ?
[03:24] <nomin> irelandshope, here is an example of where realplayer opens externally.  This is where realplayer works well on linux:  http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/26/141024
[03:24] <Xilon> Hey, could anyone tell me how to compile/run a ruby program?
[03:24] <irelandshope> nomin thanks for the help I have only been using ubuntu for a couple of weeks but I am loving it.
[03:24] <nomin> irelandshope, you need the win32 codecs to play windows videos
[03:25] <Xilon> or more specifically, if anyone here is on Ubernet, how I can run AQScript?
[03:25] <nox-Hand> brb
[03:25] <livevil> ciao
[03:25] <irelandshope> I have the win32codecs and will give real a go.
[03:25] <nomin> irelandshope, I'm still fairly new to linux but I have gotten it to do just about everything windows does so far.
[03:26] <livevil> Someone can help me to find drivers for my acer monitor? It can't be setted over 640 x 480
[03:26] <another_lemur> nomin, well, i hope you haven't gotten it to crash as much :)
[03:26] <another_lemur> nomin, or cost as much :)
[03:26] <Paradoxx> Seveas: How do you know if freenx server is up and workin?
[03:26] <sybariten> anyone ever used a USB to PS2 converter?  in the sense that the PS2 male goes into a USB female on the computer
[03:27] <nomin> another_lemur, even if it does freeze on me, I press ctrl+alt+F1 and terminate the process causing the freeze.  Than everything is ok.
[03:27] <power1> Just wanted some advice and recommendations. I have a remote client that has a coal mine out in the sticks. They have an ISDN line for internet connectivity. They are currently using a windows box running kerio mail server and kerio firewall. The solution is not working as they are getting very large phone bills and the mail is unreliable. i am going
[03:27] <power1> out there tomorrow and I want to put down a Linux box. I have a customised build that I want to set-up there. I normally use this for Small ADSL clients but have never set-up a solution to control ISDN dial-ups and restrict call charges. It would be an added bonus if I could control users dialing up by forcing them to use some type ofauthentication proxy. any ideas?
[03:27] <Healot> yeah sure, mostly for my keyboard/mouse, sybariten
[03:27] <restday> lst
[03:27] <Healot> but I no longer use it, because my USB controller support legacy devices
[03:28] <irelandshope> nomin I think it is getting very close to being full replacement. I enjoy hacking around with the terminal but I think less technically minded may still find it a little tricky but its not far from prime time.
[03:28] <Seveas> Paradoxx, if your ssh server is running, nx is running
[03:28] <another_lemur> powerl, I deployed radius for that sort of thing
[03:28] <Paradoxx> how do i test that?
[03:28] <another_lemur> power1, I deployed radius for that sort of thing
[03:28] <power1> another_lemur, how did that help?
[03:28] <nomin> irelandshope, I don't consider myself too technically minded.  I'm not a programmer.  I just started playing with linux once and since then i've been hooked.
[03:30] <another_lemur> power1, let me see if I undterstood you.  You want a way to manage the line charges of isdn (per minute, or per byte fees, right?)?
[03:31] <power1> another_lemur, yes exactly, and also control which user is allowed to let the modem dial...
[03:31] <irelandshope> I agree Im not very techie I would call myself an advanced windows user but certainly not a programmer. It helps to be interested in learning it and I have found it great fun and a sweet OS. I enjoy how fast it is in comparison to Windows and the extra control you have.
[03:31] <Paradoxx> Seveas: How do I test if the ssh-server is up?
[03:31] <Seveas> netstat -tl | grep ssh
[03:32] <another_lemur> power1, ah, radius is not the right component for that end of it.  Are you familiar with ppp?
[03:32] <nomin> yeah, I can install all kinds of stuff on ubuntu and startup doesn't seem to be affected.
[03:32] <Healot> irelandshope: Windows/Linux different userland, not really comparable imho
[03:32] <power1> another_lemur, yeah kinda....
[03:33] <HumanPrototype> hi
[03:33] <another_lemur> power1, I've not used ppp on linux, but I have on freebsd.  It has a method to minimize connection time for toll-based links.
[03:33] <HumanPrototype> if I have borked my list of what I have installed (for apt and dpkg) how do I regenerate it?
[03:34] <nomin> irelandshope, I recommend installing several video players.  Some videos don't play in some players.  I think it has to do with codec stuff.  I have kaffeine, xine, mplayer, and totem installed.  I use amarok and xmms for audio.
[03:34] <power1> another_lemur, thanks....I will get reading.
[03:34] <Healot> HumanPrototype: apt-get -f install if you were talking about broken installation
[03:34] <another_lemur> power1, and you can control which users are allowed to use it, therefore limiting who can connect
[03:34] <irelandshope> Healot I Agree, do you think it will ever be for the masses or would it need to be too crippled to be viable.
[03:34] <kettel> hi. I'm on Breezy 5.10, and I was wondering how I can install Ruby 1.8.4 on it.
[03:35] <rixxon> rhytmbox doesn't find the mp3s i have in the right folder?
[03:35] <irelandshope> nomin I also use VLC which I have found to be excellent
[03:35] <rixxon> kettel: sudo apt-get install ruby
[03:35] <kettel> rixxon: I already did, bu it only installed 1.8.3
[03:35] <Healot> i would like to see variaties of OSes, makes things interesting to learn
[03:35] <kettel> (the previous version)
[03:35] <rixxon> kettel: big diff ;)
[03:35] <HumanPrototype> Healot: I have tried that several times - the system just doesnt know what is installed already and so keeps claiming there are broken dependancies
[03:35] <kettel> rixxon: actually, it is :)
[03:36] <rixxon> kettel: universe/multiverse?
[03:36] <kettel> rixxon: I need 1.8.4 to run Rails.
[03:36] <nomin> irelandshope, if you want ideas to make your desktop look a lot cooler, check out these sites:  http://www.gnome-look.org/   http://www.kde-look.org/
[03:36] <gnomefreak> kettel: you wqould have to find a deb for it and install it or upgrade to dapper (pretty sure dapper have it)
[03:36] <drew> hey
[03:36] <rixxon> kettel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:36] <gnomefreak> rixxon: 1.8.4 ias not out for breezy
[03:36] <kettel> gnomefreak: how would I find such a deb?  google?
[03:36] <rixxon> oh
[03:36] <drew> umm I got a question
[03:36] <rixxon> manual install or update ubuntu then :P
[03:37] <irelandshope> nomin cool thanks
[03:37] <another_lemur> apt-cache search ruby ;)
[03:37] <gnomefreak> hold on i think i know  aplace
[03:37] <Healot> HumanPrototype: try to cleanup your list, "apt-get clean" then run "apt-get update" once again
[03:37] <drew> how do I install virtual boy advance
[03:37] <firev> hello
[03:37] <kettel> another_lemur: it's not available for Breezy appearantly.
[03:37] <drew> hey firev
[03:37] <kettel> another_lemur: definitely not on the default repo list.
[03:37] <another_lemur> kettel hmm.  I'm looking at dapper atm
[03:38] <firev> is there a way to use two screens in ubuntu
[03:38] <drew> man ubuntu is so much better on a machine without bad ram I actually learned some stuff yesterday
[03:38] <drew> firev what do u mean 2 screens
[03:38] <igorzolnikov_> how can i install pgp?
[03:38] <drew> firev u mean the 4 desktop thingy
[03:39] <kettel> igorzolnikov: apt-get install pgp?
[03:39] <firev> no i mean two physical screens
[03:39] <firev> not program
[03:39] <nomin> firev, I have my tv hooked up to my pc
[03:39] <gnomefreak> kettel: i would upgrade to dapper its safe atm
[03:39] <drew> yo anybody know how to get virtual boy advance on it
[03:39] <nomin> firev, I have my tv clone my screen
[03:39] <Xana> !usb pen drives
[03:39] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Xana
[03:39] <kettel> gnomefreak: I think I'll use http://www.owahab.com/?q=node/10
[03:40] <gnomefreak> igorzolnikov_: what are you trying to do?
[03:40] <another_lemur> kettel, dapper has ruby 1.8.4 in pkg ruby1.8
[03:40] <gnomefreak> ok kettel
[03:40] <nomin> firev, you might do you gave the driver installed for your videocard?
[03:40] <kettel> gnomefreak: thanks for your help :)
[03:40] <firev> the thing is that i have 2 videocards
[03:40] <gnomefreak> kettel: yw
[03:40] <another_lemur> kettel, from  pool/main, even
[03:40] <gnomefreak> brb coffee
[03:40] <kettel> another_lemur: yeah, I might upgrade to it once I understand what I'm upgrading: 1. from, 2. to :)
[03:40] <drew> dam nobody knows how to install virtual boy advance
[03:41] <Healot> drew: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:41] <kesV> igorzolnikov_:  pgp is commercial, so the oss alternative GnuPG is preferred instead
[03:41] <Xana> !usb
[03:41] <ubotu> Xana: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:41] <nomin> firev, I don't know what to do about 2 video cards, never been in that situation.
[03:41] <firev> oh:(
[03:41] <Healot> in fact PGP is mostly for Windows
[03:42] <igorzolnikov_> how can i install GnuPG?
[03:42] <another_lemur> kettel, i installed breezy about 10 days ago, and upgraded to daper on the same day
[03:42] <lastnode> does anyone know the package i need to install opengl?
[03:42] <kesV> igorzolnikov_: with synaptic or apt-get like everything else
[03:42] <nomin> firev, Does Linux Barf at Dual Video Cards?
[03:42] <nomin> Does linux barf at dual video cards?:  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/12534-does-linux-barf-dual-video-cards.html
[03:42] <nomin> that may be helpful
[03:42] <matheus> hello
[03:43] <firev> thx
[03:43] <gwilma> Hello everyone. Does anyone know how to stop nautilus from displaying the little icon that shows a folder/file is a link, but on a folder-by-folder basis?
[03:43] <firev> brb dinner
[03:43] <matheus> anyone here works with eclipse ?
[03:43] <another_lemur> nomin, linux can handle anything withthe right drivers
[03:44] <another_lemur> nomin, my office id full of linux machines with 2 or 3 displays connected
[03:45] <another_lemur> nomin, i have 2 displays on my machine
[03:45] <nomin> another_lemur, that mb I linked shows someone suggesting how to set up dual video cards.  firev said he's in that situation.
[03:46] <matheus> gwilma, are you talk about list view ?
[03:46] <another_lemur> igorzolnikov_,  try using apt-cache searc gpg then choose the packages you want and sudo apt-get install pkg names
[03:46] <another_lemur> nomin, I suppose I should read the link.  I upgraded to dapper for the kernel support for my video mb
[03:46] <HumanPrototype> Healot: Sorry - still isnt working, I guess I may have to reinstall (totally sucks)
[03:47] <gwilma> Hello Matheus. I've made some links on my desktop to common folders, but I  want them to show on the desktop as normal folder icons, not as linked folders
[03:47] <pkern> How could one enable suspend-to-ram on dapper? I guess there's no hacking of /etc/default/acpi-support anymore? (I lack this file on my powerpc dapper default install, though.)
[03:47] <Healot> igorzolnikov_: just install "gpgp" and the rest will follow
[03:47] <Healot> gpgp is the frontend for GNUpg
[03:47] <mantizDE> if i want to suport linux should i send money to the NSA ?
[03:48] <highvoltage> mantizDE: if you want to support linux, best thing you can do is use it and make copies for your friends :)
[03:48] <VitaminG> have the US repositories been fixed? there's no alert in the channel topic anymore.
[03:48] <Healot> HumanPrototype: could you give us the output of whatever you're doing?
[03:48] <matheus> gwilma, I think that is possible only the folder was created in Desktop
[03:48] <highvoltage> mantizDE: and if you have the skills, develop some more software or improve current software :)
[03:49] <kronoz> !7z
[03:49] <ubotu> kronoz: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:49] <mantizDE> i dont have any skills
[03:49] <nomin> VitaminG, I just updated a few hours ago.  I didn't know repositories were broken at all.
[03:49] <matheus> gwilma, or if you make a simbolic link to the folder... like "ln -s /your_fisical_folder Desktop_simbolic_folder"
[03:49] <Healot> mantizDE: can you do some artwork, translation, sell CD (and send donation)?
[03:49] <girish> hi all can anyone help me to set my computers resolution and refresh rate
[03:50] <VitaminG> nomin: ok, because last week there was something in the topic about the US repositories not working.
[03:50] <rixxon> what do i need to do to play mp3s
[03:50] <zak_> Hi, I'm a long-time Debian user just giving Ubuntu a try.  Ubuntu's cryptsetup doesn't seem to work with my Debian encrypted partitions.  Any ideas?
[03:50] <Healot> rixxon: and MP3 player of course
[03:50] <another_lemur> hi girish, are you running gnome right now?
[03:50] <mantizDE> i could try to sned ubuntu iso as email atachments
[03:50] <girish> yes another lemur
[03:50] <nomin> rixxon, I think ubuntu plays mp3's from installation.
[03:50] <Healot> email? nay bad idea
[03:50] <girish> am running gnome
[03:51] <mantizDE> people might fall for it
[03:51] <another_lemur> nomin, my toem did not grok mp3
[03:51] <gwilma> Matheus: I can make the link, but I want it to look like a normal folder, without the little arrow at the top of the icon. It's no biggie, but I'd prefer the look that way
[03:51] <spikeb> nomin: no it doesn't heh
[03:51] <another_lemur> nomin, my totem did not grok mp3 after install
[03:51] <gnomefreak> nomin: no it doesnt
[03:51] <kesV> rixxon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:51] <another_lemur> ^grok^understand  sorry folks :)
[03:51] <gnomefreak> nomin: mp3 is non-free
[03:51] <nomin> is lame needed to play mp3s?
[03:51] <another_lemur> !restricted
[03:51] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:51] <nomin> I must have installed lame a while ago than.
[03:52] <matheus> rixxon, ubuntu uses gmstream by default that not play mp3... try to remove gstream and install xine plugin for totem
[03:52] <rixxon> thank you kesV
[03:52] <girish> Can anyone help me to set my refresh rate to 80 hz and 800*600 resolution?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> totem-xine is the package name
[03:52] <another_lemur> girish,  got to System -> Preferences -> Screen resolution
[03:52] <girish> i did that
[03:52] <rixxon> matheus: i want to use rhythmbox though
[03:52] <spikeb> totem doesn't need xine to play mp3
[03:53] <gnomefreak> and it will remove totem-gstreamer for you :)
[03:53] <spikeb> nor does rhythmbox
[03:53] <pkern> How does suspend work with Dapper?
[03:53] <gnomefreak> pkern: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[03:53] <matheus> gwilma, can't you change the icon by right click on he folder?
[03:53] <Healot> gstreamer for ubuntu does come with MPEG1/2/3 decoder, just select the right package
[03:53] <girish> another_lemur:it is not showing capable option ..wat do i do
[03:53] <girish> Can anyone help me to set my refresh rate to 80 hz and 800*600 resolution?
[03:53] <another_lemur> girish, which video driver is X using for you?
[03:54] <nickrud> girish, have you read  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto ?
[03:54] <girish> no
[03:54] <spikeb> mp3 patents expire in 09, thank god
[03:54] <mantizDE> how do i get gstreamer to send out mp3 bering played to irc channels ?
[03:54] <girish> i am using amd with asus a7n8xvm board
[03:54] <nickrud> girish, there are some decent instructions there
[03:54] <nomin> has anyone backported kaffeine v0.8 to breezy?  Breezy comes with v0.7 and I want to record streaming video.  Only v0.8 has that feature working.
[03:54] <girish> ok
[03:54] <girish> thank u
[03:54] <gwilma> Matheus: I've tried changing the icon, but I still get the little arrow at the top right-hand corner.
[03:54] <zak_> spikeb: That's a valuable patent.  Might well find the law changes to extend it :)
[03:54] <nickrud> girish, if you still have probs, come back, of course :)
[03:55] <girish> ok thank u
[03:55] <gnomefreak> nomin: not sure you can check on packages.ubuntu.com under breezy backports to see all backported apps
[03:55] <kesV> mantizDE: gstreamer by itself won't do that, but a proper combination of irc client plugin and media player should do it
[03:55] <matheus> gwilma, in that case, you need to make a application laucher "nautillus --browser forder_name", and you can change the icon
[03:56] <Healot> gstreamer0.8-mad >> to enable MPEG1/2/3 audio support with default totem package
[03:56] <mantizDE> is this an mp3 discussion channel ?
[03:58] <matheus> anyone wokrs with eclipse ??? I need a help to install some plugins
[03:58] <drew> gosh why is it so hard to install stuff by urself in linux
[03:58] <mantizDE> is picasa in ubuntu ?
[03:58] <another_lemur> hi drew, what is giving you trouble?
[03:58] <gnomefreak> no mantizDE  there is a deb for it but you still need to run iot with wine
[03:58] <gwilma> Matheus: Thanks - I've tried that, and it does let me make the icon I want, but then drag & drop stops working
[03:58] <sybariten> drew: _everything_ is hard in linux (except doing shell stuff), its not just installing stuff
[03:58] <gnomefreak> drew: its not hard to install things
[03:59] <sybariten> gnomefreak: ofcourse it is ... from your standpoint it isnt
[03:59] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[03:59] <sybariten> but judging from your nick, you've been around for a while
[03:59] <matheus> gwilma, but the right-hand corner is cool! :)
[04:00] <kronoz> does alacarte edit just the gnome menu or does it now edit the kde menu as well?
[04:00] <another_lemur> drew, ping
[04:00] <gwilma> lol - I like it most of the time, but if I want to put custom icons on different folders, it doesn't look quite so good.
[04:00] <gnomefreak> kronoz: gnome afaik
[04:00] <nickrud> installing isn't hard (except for the non-free support), it's figuring out what to install that can be hard
[04:00] <gwilma> Matheus: it's probably not worth the amount of time I'd have to spend to figure out how to change it though
[04:01] <gnomefreak> once you have the universe and multiverse repos enabled everything you will really ever need is in the repos and its apt-get isntall
[04:01] <VitaminG> sybariten: if apt-get command line confuses you, you can always hust use Synaptic
[04:01] <gnomefreak> or add/remove programs from tha pplication menu
[04:02] <mantizDE> hey whats the difrence betwen instaling from live cd opsed has the "regular
[04:02] <mantizDE> install metod
[04:02] <gnomefreak> mantizDE: gui fior live cd
[04:02] <drew> live cd might not have all the packages
[04:03] <drew> and the live cd will prob ake longer
[04:03] <gnomefreak> mantizDE: i found the live cd to be faster but eh that might just be me
[04:03] <gnomefreak> drew: live cd install has all the packagew
[04:03] <mantizDE> hehe
[04:03] <gnomefreak> they just added a gui face to it
[04:03] <sybariten> VitaminG: apt-get doesnt confuse me much ... i use it every day almost, and i even prefer it to windows archives or exes, (which says a lot) .... but anyone who's used *nix seriously for some years, who's been experimenting with some different hardware levels and so .... knows, that it just doesnt always work. Sometimes you have to try and fix things yourselves, and in many of those cases you can be stuck for two days asking in forums an
[04:04] <mantizDE> i knew i could be able to get a strait anser
[04:04] <drew> oh it does
[04:04] <nomin> someone has been spamming the hell out of the backports wiki:  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[04:04] <drew> how can I make a fake .deb package
[04:04] <drew> like u do to install java
[04:04] <gnomefreak> fake deb?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> drew: you mean fakeroot
[04:04] <HumanPrototype> drew: you could look at checkinstall possibly?
[04:05] <drew> well I want to install virtual boy advance
[04:05] <drew> and all it comes with is a source
[04:05] <deus_> I want to maintain my hardrives and partitions, what tools do i use?
[04:05] <zak_> drew: Back in Debian you'd use the "equivs" package.
[04:05] <mantizDE> whats the ubuntu default file system ?
[04:06] <drew> well Im in ubuntu but I know if I make it a fake .deb it will more than likely install
[04:06] <HumanPrototype> mantizDE: ext3 but you can choose when you install
[04:06] <matheus> mantizDE, ext3
[04:06] <Healot> drew: install "visualboyadvance"
[04:06] <nickrud> drew, you mean visualboyadvance?
[04:06] <drew> yes visual boy advance
[04:06] <jcdenton> sounds gay
[04:06] <drew> I keep calling it virtual
[04:06] <nickrud> drew, it's only an apt-get away :)
[04:06] <jcdenton> i would prefer visual girl advance
[04:06] <mantizDE> is it easy to get edonky running in ubuntu ?
[04:06] <jcdenton> :P
[04:06] <gwilma> Matheus: thanks anyway.
[04:07] <drew> really I can get it in apt-get
[04:07] <mantizDE> i have 501 files to share
[04:07] <drew> if so how can I . I just started linux yesterday
[04:07] <VitaminG> drew: if you've used it in windows, don't expect the same thing.
[04:07] <VitaminG> drew: just search for it in synaptic
[04:08] <drew> as long as I can play it I dont care if its like windows or not
[04:08] <nickrud> drew, on the top menu bar: System-Admin->Synaptic. Once it's open type Ctl-F and search
[04:08] <drew> I know where synapatic is
[04:08] <I-CEE> hi back again
[04:08] <mantizDE> can i get windows running on wine ?
[04:09] <I-CEE> does anyone know why this is happening
[04:09] <Healot> no... some windows application may work with WINE
[04:09] <crazy_penguin> mantizDE: no you can't. but you can run windows applications
[04:09] <mantizDE> i wanna run the hole thing
[04:09] <drew> visual boy advance is not in synaptic
[04:10] <VitaminG> mantiz: for edonkey, use synaptic to find amule. it's a cross-platform edonkey client. It works great. or if you want to do it in command line, I think the package is called amule.
[04:10] <nickrud> drew, have you enabled the multiverse repository?
[04:10] <nickrud> drew, and the universe?
[04:10] <VitaminG> drew: are you using breezy
[04:10] <drew> I think so
[04:10] <drew> Im using 5.10 I think thats breezy
[04:10] <s00ty> Hi guys. I'm trying to get WG311v1 up. However, it's not listed in ifconfig. In device manager, I can see it is recognised as being plugged in. How do I use it?
[04:10] <drew> how can I check it its on multiverse
[04:11] <crazy_penguin> zak_: may i ask you something?
[04:11] <I-CEE> error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block error reading NAV packet <<<<<<anyone know what problem i have
[04:11] <mantizDE> do you have the non-free livbdccs ?
[04:11] <kermit_> i am trying to get limewire installed but its not letting me do it its saying archive not supported?>
[04:12] <deus_> I know i dont give alot to go on here, but i cant write to my ipod, with vfat
[04:12] <nickrud> drew, there are several ways, the easiest for me is to ask you to type in a terminal   grep universe /etc/apt/sources.list , does that line have a # at the beginning?
[04:12] <zak_> crazy_penguin: Yeah...
[04:12] <I-CEE> i have  installed them but not sure linux  and command line is new to me
[04:12] <I-CEE> <<<<<<<<<<<linux noob
[04:12] <nickrud> drew, herm, nm that's gonna be confusing :)
[04:13] <mantizDE> whats a noob ?
[04:13] <I-CEE> new person
[04:13] <deus_> its mounted, and i can read the partition, i mananged to delete a folder, but i cant write a folder, enven i sudo
[04:13] <nickrud> drew, if you'd put a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:13] <kermit_> i am a noob
[04:13] <kermit_> and need some help
[04:13] <mantizDE> isnt that newbie ?
[04:13] <HumanPrototype> kermit_: whats the problem?
[04:13] <I-CEE> yep
[04:14] <kermit_> i am trying to install limewire with rpm
[04:14] <kermit_> but its saying archive not supported
[04:14] <crazy_penguin> zak_: i ask this for satisfy my curiosity. why did you ask pkern that question about why he wants to run linux on shiny mac?
[04:14] <nickrud> !limewire
[04:14] <another_lemur> mantizDE, have you looked at vmware?
[04:14] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[04:14] <Healot> alien... kermit_, alien
[04:14] <nickrud> kermit_, see the ubotu message just above
[04:14] <mantizDE> vmware ?
[04:14] <kermit_> got it thanks
[04:14] <mantizDE> is that non-free ?
[04:14] <drew> how do I and where do I put that link
[04:14] <nomin> wow, getting backported packages is easy.  Looks like the I might be able to record streaming video now.
[04:15] <another_lemur> mantizDE, I had to install it independantly
[04:15] <mantizDE> sounds like trouble
[04:15] <another_lemur> mantizDE, I downloaded them from vmware.com and installed them by hand
[04:15] <nickrud> drew, open /etc/apt/sources.list with the text editor under accessories; open http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ in your browser and cut & paste. Give us the url when you're done
[04:15] <another_lemur> mantizDE, they are completely free
[04:16] <jesper_> join #ubuntu-se
[04:16] <drew> well do I paste it atthe bottom
[04:16] <zak_> crazy_penguin: Because Macs are generally very nice machines, and if you've paid extra $$$ buying one, you're probably not the kinda person that wants to run Linux.  <end sweeping generalisation>
[04:16] <s00ty> can you help me with my wireless problem I stated above?
[04:16] <gnomefreak> drew: yes in the open space near the bottom
[04:17] <mantizDE> if you have a Mac you should be running FreeBSD
[04:17] <drew> just all by itself
[04:17] <nickrud> drew, all the text in the editor into the box
[04:17] <kermit_> ok nother quest? how do i run it though like i said i am very new
[04:18] <drew> dam it . wont let me says Im not owner
[04:18] <gnomefreak> kermit_: run what?
[04:18] <gnomefreak> drew: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:18] <kermit_> the runlime.sh
[04:18] <nomin> sweet!  the kaffeine backport works :)
[04:18] <nickrud> drew, you don't need to be able to write to it at this point
[04:18] <gnomefreak> drew: open that
[04:18] <nickrud> drew, see gnomefreak :)
[04:18] <gnomefreak> kermit_: sh runlime.sh
[04:18] <nomin> thanks for the link for backported packages gnomefreak
[04:19] <crazy_penguin> zak_: the from this i understand tha you consider linux somewhat second hand os or i'm wrong? don't take it personaly please. :)
[04:19] <gnomefreak> nomin: yw but its even easier if you add the backports repo to your sources.list folder ;)
[04:19] <drew> damit cant find the link ethier anymore too many links
[04:19] <drew> posts*
[04:19] <nickrud> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:19] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[04:19] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[04:19] <mantizDE> were can i find the juice apps extra cdrom ?
[04:20] <nomin> gnomefreak, I did that.  thanks.
[04:20] <drew> wat is paste bi supposed to do
[04:20] <drew> bin*
[04:20] <gnomefreak> drew: it allows you to paste to it instead of flooding the room
[04:20] <nickrud> drew, if everyone pasted stuff for us to see here, no one could read anything
[04:20] <mantizDE> its suposed to store your passwords
[04:20] <another_lemur> drew, it keeps large screen cuts from filling up the channel and disrupting conversations
[04:20] <zak_> crazy_penguin: I've never owned a Mac, but I'm tiring so much of *having* to tinker with things on Linux to get them working that my next laptop will definitely be a MacBook.
[04:21] <s00ty> Hello, guys, where I can get help on installing wireless cards in ubuntu?
[04:21] <kermit_> ok where do i get j2re update from?
[04:21] <kermit_> my java is too old
[04:21] <another_lemur> !java
[04:21] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:21] <hmpedersen> s00ty you too? I just joined to ask about it..
[04:21] <gnomefreak> kermit_: got update 7 from javas site
[04:21] <hmpedersen> Hi all
[04:21] <drew> i just wanted to know how to get visual boy advance
[04:21] <drew> fuck
[04:21] <gnomefreak> kermit_: if you folow the restricted wiki its easy install ;)
[04:22] <gnomefreak> drew: watch your language please
[04:22] <another_lemur> s00ty / hmpedersen  does ubuntu recognize your wi cards?
[04:22] <nickrud> drew a couple of things to read: !components on why you need to do this, and !repos for info on how if you'd rather read
[04:22] <hmpedersen> Now i've spent an hour working with ndiswrapper.. It installs and no errors are given.. But after that, wlan is not available for config..
[04:22] <mantizDE> f***=feck in geeks lingo
[04:22] <nickrud> !components
[04:22] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[04:22] <nickrud> !repos
[04:22] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:22] <I-CEE> is this >>>>libdvdcss2<<<<<< the right codecs
[04:22] <s00ty> hmpedersen, I am trying to use WG311v1 which can be seen in Device Manager, but not in Network Connections.
[04:22] <I-CEE> for totem
[04:23] <crazy_penguin> zak_: ah ok. good enough reason i think. i don't like either to tinker with linux but strangely enough linux is working for me without any tinkering with it from the first install. :) thx for satisfying my curiosity. :)
[04:23] <another_lemur> s00ty / hmpedersen  my first exposure to ubuntu was helping someone set up 2 diff laptops with ndiswrapper
[04:23] <drew> sorry gnome but I just wanted to do this fast insted of doing all this other stuff
[04:23] <MisterN> hi
[04:23] <KaiSVK> I just installed Ubuntu :)))
[04:23] <KaiSVK> it looks nice and easy ...
[04:23] <hmpedersen> I had it working on my laptop ages ago..
[04:23] <another_lemur> it sounds like drew is looking for a game emulator and cannot be bothered with learning something
[04:23] <metatag> KaiSVK, :)
[04:23] <drew> and then I got all thes links and I hate when people link insed of guiding through
[04:23] <KaiSVK> but my boss told me that ubuntu is for lames ...
[04:24] <mantizDE> every one  lets have a round of aplause to KaiSVK:
[04:24] <metatag> KaiSVK, why he said that?
[04:24] <s00ty> another_lemur, my card is not listed in network connections.
[04:24] <hmpedersen> Kai, welcome to the best linux distro available :)
[04:24] <another_lemur> s00ty does lspci list your card?
[04:24] <nickrud> drew it was an offer of another method, only.  And it only needs to be done once ;)
[04:24] <hmpedersen> Yes. Does that for both of us..
[04:25] <metatag> hmpedersen, hmm.. why do everybody claim that their distro is the best?
[04:25] <mantizDE> its just like that rap song
[04:25] <drew> yea but I didnt understand what in world u wanted me to do
[04:25] <chavo> metatag, why wouldn't you
[04:25] <mantizDE> my distro is better then yours
[04:25] <hmpedersen> metatag: Because if they don't use ubuntu, they don't know the best.. If they do, they are using the best :P
[04:25] <another_lemur> s00ty / hmpedersen  please follow me to #ndiswrapper
[04:25] <chavo> It's the best for me
[04:25] <KaiSVK> metatag: I dont know ... I think because Ubuntu is different from SuSE that we are used to in our company
[04:26] <mantizDE> i could teatch you but i would have to charge
[04:26] <KaiSVK> metatag: I installed Ubuntu on my notebook
[04:26] <I-CEE> i like this os  if i can get my head around it i will change all my boxes form windohs
[04:26] <metatag> chavo, dunno maybe there are better distros around i haven't tried
[04:26] <nickrud> drew what you are doing is showing where your computer is looking for software. We're going to enable it to get a lot more software.
[04:26] <metatag> KaiSVK, well that makes the beauty of ubuntu
[04:26] <KaiSVK> metatag: still dont understant some thing ... mainly that I didnt have to type any root psw ? :/
[04:27] <drew> k thx
[04:27] <metatag> hmpedersen, :)
[04:27] <chavo> KaiSVK, no ubuntu uses sudo
[04:27] <mantizDE> in ubuntu you just use sudo
[04:27] <metatag> KaiSVK, wat root password?
[04:27] <mantizDE> its alot saffer that way
[04:27] <drew> but I think I might of found out how to install from source
[04:27] <KaiSVK> chavo: so everyone can install and manage my comp  ? ? ?
[04:27] <chavo> no they need your password
[04:28] <igorzolnikov> how i can import certificate pgp to Evolution?
[04:28] <mantizDE> with sudo its harder to skew up your install
[04:28] <KaiSVK> I wantet to try Debian - the mother of all linux distros :) but then I choose ubuntu
[04:28] <I-CEE> libdvdcss2 <<<<<<<<is this the right codecs for totem
[04:28] <mantizDE> you can only do one comand at time
[04:28] <newbie2> anyone point me to an idiots guide to add java to firefox?
[04:28] <mantizDE> its great to get you into scripting
[04:29] <petiteconne> hey, i want to decrease my shell text size. anybody who may help me?
[04:29] <bintrue> newbie2: its in here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:30] <I-CEE> join #truff
[04:30] <I-CEE> that dont work
[04:30] <I-CEE> lol
[04:30] <Mic__hael> hello! anyone knows how to find out the type of ram in my pc from the command line? thank you!
[04:30] <metatag> Mic__hael, hey good question!
[04:31] <mantizDE> yes ive allways wnated to do that my self
[04:31] <newbie2> thanks bintrue
[04:31] <aLPHa_LeaK> look in /proc/, im sure theres something about that there Mic__hael
[04:32] <Mic__hael> ok, thank you, I'll have a look
[04:32] <bintrue> it's a bit of overkill but top works
[04:32] <drew> nm visual boy advance is killing me
[04:32] <KaiSVK> so now the question
[04:32] <KaiSVK> what about ubuntu and multimedia ;) I mean MP3, divx, w32 codecs etc.
[04:32] <drew> i tried ./configure and it gives some rror
[04:32] <drew> like it did last time I was installing something
[04:32] <chavo> KaiSVK, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:32] <bintrue> KaiSVK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:33] <bintrue> damn beat me to it
[04:33] <drew> brb gonna go eat breakfast
[04:33] <mantizDE> KaiSVK: that the 1000 $ question
[04:33] <mantizDE> anit it ?
[04:33] <mantizDE> aint it ?
[04:33] <gnomefreak> drew: install build-essential also read the README or INSTALL files for other related packages you will need
[04:33] <aLPHa_LeaK> bintrue: ps aux does the same thing
[04:33] <ucordes> hi there! somebody here?
[04:33] <mantizDE> ucordes: no
[04:33] <metatag> ucordes, hi!
[04:33] <KaiSVK> chavo: WOW I can play my mp3 files out of the box :)
[04:33] <KaiSVK> nice
[04:33] <KaiSVK> another point to ubuntu
[04:33] <ucordes> i have a problem installing a pack called acer_acpi
[04:34] <bintrue> aLPHa_LeaK, ps aux dosn't show ram, but top does I believe
[04:34] <ucordes> can someone help?
[04:34] <mantizDE> ubuntu ownes
[04:34] <chavo> well you have to enable some repos and install the codecs but then you're good to go
[04:34] <metatag> KaiSVK, really?? you can play mp3s straight away?
[04:34] <gmvmrr>  u7nju8
[04:34] <gmvmrr> olaaaaaaaaa
[04:34] <gnomefreak> bintrue: top shows how much ram and swap
[04:34] <aLPHa_LeaK> bintrue: oh.
[04:34] <bintrue> right
[04:34] <gmvmrr> hay  alguien por ah
[04:34] <gnomefreak> gmvmrr: stop spamming please
[04:34] <bintrue> Mic__hael was looking for ram
[04:34] <KaiSVK> metatag: yes I can
[04:34] <ucordes> what packets do i need to install, in order to use make?
[04:34] <KaiSVK> metatag: I am surprised
[04:35] <gnomefreak> bintrue: i thought he was looking for the type of ram installed
[04:35] <gnomefreak> !es
[04:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:35] <Mic__hael> gnomefreak: you're right
[04:35] <bintrue> ah I read wrong then
[04:35] <saxin> !no
[04:35] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, saxin
[04:35] <metatag> KaiSVK, strange.. which version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:35] <ucordes> what packets do i need to install, in order to use make??
[04:35] <ucordes> except make
[04:35] <zak_> ucordes: Why do you think you need something else?
[04:36] <gnomefreak> Mic__hael: i dont know of a command line command that will give you that info turn pc off take a mem stick out it will say it on it or google you pc
[04:36] <aLd> ucordes, build-essential
[04:36] <KaiSVK> 6.06
[04:36] <KaiSVK> RC
[04:36] <KaiSVK> Dapper I think
[04:36] <gnomefreak> KaiSVK: ubuntu dapper drake is for now in #ubuntu+1
[04:36] <m_> Can anyone help me with Error 15 with grub, I can only get the recovery mode working
[04:36] <PetrolBomb> Is there a default Key combo to lock PC?
[04:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell m_ about grub
[04:36] <KaiSVK> gnomefreak: u mean users of RC are in that channel ?
[04:36] <metatag> KaiSVK, meaning dapper has mp3 support out of the box?
[04:37] <mantizDE> can any one help how to dualboot isont the windows boot menu ?
[04:37] <KaiSVK> metatag: I think so :)
[04:37] <gnomefreak> m_: in that link you will find what your looking for
[04:37] <gnomefreak> KaiSVK: yes
[04:37] <drew> k back
[04:37] <KaiSVK> metatag: since suse has it too out of the box but not in xmms
[04:37] <] GoldenDragon> hmm, how do I get codecs to play AVIs?
[04:37] <mantizDE> can any one help how to dualboot using the windows boot menu ?
[04:37] <nickrud> Mic__hael, if you run sudo dmidecode you get a little info about your memory stick
[04:37] <kermit_> i cant get java installed i am so confused on how to intsall it
[04:37] <ucordes> what can be wrong when i have "make" and "build_essential" installed and still get errors on MAKE
[04:37] <gnomefreak> mantizDE: windows xp bootloader wont give you ubuntu
[04:37] <ucordes> ???
[04:37] <drew> eww mantiz u got to install grub bootloader to a hd
[04:37] <mantizDE> it wont ?
[04:37] <pablo_> hi there I was wondering if someone could confirm if whether or not ubuntu works with the Asus P5VDI-X motherboard
[04:37] <spikeb> it will if you make it.
[04:38] <drew> and yes u can use the windows bootloader
[04:38] <metatag> KaiSVK, do you think its a good point?
[04:38] <drew> they have done it with slax
[04:38] <gnomefreak> ucordes: could be a few differnt things like a bad tar or you dont have all the libs you need
[04:38] <drew> they did a hd install and installed lilo to a partition and edited the boot.ini
[04:38] <mantizDE> drew: can you give me the actual code ?
[04:38] <ucordes> well i installed the pacl before on another ubuntu install
[04:38] <ucordes> pack
[04:38] <nutterpc> is dapper actually stable enough now that its worth using? last time I tried, it completely went beserk, lol
[04:38] <ucordes> everything is ok about it....
[04:38] <metatag> KaiSVK, wish ogg format was more ubiquitous
[04:38] <gnomefreak> nutterpc: yes
[04:38] <Jowi> ] GoldenDragon: depends on what media player you use. if you use totem you will need codecs for that, if you use mplayer or something else the w32codecs can be used ("/msg ubotu w32codecs" for more info)
[04:38] <drew> nope but I can give u the link to the people at slax who got it
[04:39] <gnomefreak> nutterpc: its gonna be released on thursday
[04:39] <nutterpc> gnomefreak, might look at upgrading it then, hehehe
[04:39] <drew> becuase I never tried it so I dont know
[04:39] <mantizDE> that will do just fine thank you
[04:39] <ucordes> im really lookin forward to thursday!!
[04:39] <gnomefreak> nutterpc: simple upgrade gksudo "update-manager -d"
[04:39] <adamant1988> I've got the Dapper live/install CD.  I liked it when I put it in, although it didn't detect my network connection, which I felt was odd.
[04:40] <gnomefreak> adamant1988: please join #ubuntu+1 for dapper related things ty
[04:40] <gnomefreak> brb coffee
[04:40] <KaiSVK> 6.06 is fantastic
[04:40] <adamant1988> Gnome, I was commenting on it's quality, not asking for support :)
[04:40] <Mic__hael> thanks everyone
[04:40] <drew> http://slax.linux-live.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7395 is how they got the hd slax istall to work on windows bootloader
[04:40] <mantizDE> theres a new ubuntu flavour coming out
[04:41] <adamant1988> Which one is that mantiz?
[04:41] <mantizDE> entreprise edition
[04:41] <drew> eww why would we need that
[04:41] <mantizDE> its for the start trek fans
[04:41] <adamant1988> I'm starting to think that Ubuntu is the new red hat
[04:41] <drew> naw not close
[04:41] <adamant1988> If not ubuntu, debian.
[04:42] <nutterpc> wonder what its gunna be like on me Dual Core Opty
[04:42] <drew> I heard of redhat before Iknew what linux is and ubuntu well isnt close to as popular
[04:42] <metatag> adamant1988, u like red hat?
[04:42] <drew> its only pop to linux users
[04:42] <drew> not other os users
[04:42] <nutterpc> I've gotten breezy quite fast as it is, so dapper should be interesting :)
[04:42] <adamant1988> I started with red-hat meta... but I don't really have an opinion about them, I was like... 14.
[04:42] <drew> Im about to be 14
[04:42] <adamant1988> I can't really remember what my experience on red hat was like.
[04:42] <kermit_> i need to learn this linux thing
[04:43] <drew> and I got to say i like linux except the install from source
[04:43] <kermit_> cause i cant even install a program
[04:43] <adamant1988> But I quit it for a number of years and now I'm getting back into it
[04:43] <ucordes> sam here lol
[04:43] <rixxon> uhm, xchat gnome != xchat ?
[04:43] <ucordes> total noob
[04:43] <gnomefreak> rixxon: no
[04:43] <drew> or not seeing ur program u installed under a folder
[04:43] <kermit_> i am trying to get into it but its very fustrating
[04:43] <adamant1988> Kermit, if you have access to the net, you can find out anything
[04:43] <gnomefreak> rixxon: xchat-gnome is not the same as xchat
[04:43] <rixxon> gnomefreak: how does it differ, it seems uglier although maybe i just don't remember how ugly xchat is. :p
[04:43] <drew> Its frustrating but so is every os
[04:43] <kermit_> yes your right
[04:43] <adamant1988> Kermit, you need to understand.  Using linux is like learning a different language.  You have to learn a new way to say the same things
[04:43] <mantizDE> kermit_: try klick
[04:44] <metatag> kermit_, u like ubuntu?
[04:44] <kermit_> but linux is bit more difficult if your not used to it
[04:44] <gnomefreak> rixxon: it is uglier IMHO
[04:44] <drew> I wish it would put tuxkart or whatever its called under games insted of not puting it in the apps menu
[04:44] <kermit_> yes i do like it very much
[04:44] <adamant1988> Yes, but anyone raised on linux would tell you that windows could be difficult
[04:44] <drew> yea windows is difficult
[04:44] <kermit_> i was using fedora but did not suit me well
[04:44] <gnomefreak> rixxon: its not much differnt but i think its really just the gui that differs
[04:44] <newbie2> aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgh I should have started linux 20 years ago
[04:44] <adamant1988> Kermit, you're on ubuntu yes?
[04:44] <Red-Sox> Hi
[04:44] <drew> u just got to go past the everyday stuff like hacking
[04:44] <Red-Sox> is there an SMP setting in ubuntu?
[04:44] <new_linux_usr> i was raised on windows and just recently switched, and imho it's way better
[04:44] <rixxon> gnomefreak: ok thank you
[04:44] <kermit_> yes just installed this morning
[04:44] <drew> I meant like trying to become a hacker
[04:44] <adamant1988> Ok.
[04:45] <gnomefreak> newbie2: before linus started linux? lol
[04:45] <Chousuke> :D
[04:45] <adamant1988> You can install packages using Synaptic
[04:45] <mantizDE> http://klik.atekon.de/
[04:45] <adamant1988> Go to your main menu where it says 'add remove'  and click that
[04:45] <drew> i started linux last nite
[04:45] <new_linux_usr> speaking of packages, I can't get to my source list to add the Skype repository
[04:45] <newbie2> well when I was younger anyway its a lot for this old brain to get to grips with lol
[04:45] <adamant1988> it should open up the synaptic package manager, and then you just select the programs you want.
[04:46] <adamant1988> Newbie, I know hwo you feel
[04:46] <highvoltage> drew: cool!
[04:46] <gnomefreak> new_linux_usr: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:46] <drew> but i have ipod linux but thats not a distro
[04:46] <adamant1988> I remember being a lot less frustrated with linux when I was 14
[04:46] <adamant1988> now, 3 years later, it's so foreign to me.
[04:46] <drew> yea its frustrating but with help its kinda fun
[04:46] <ucordes> i have problems with make: when i try to use the make command on the pack i want to install i get about 300 error messages. anybody knows something? (make and build essentials are installed)
[04:46] <adamant1988> I'm in it for the security
[04:46] <newbie2> I have tried and tried to get java working with my browser but cant do it
[04:46] <Chousuke> it only gets better.
[04:46] <PetrolBomb> How come this universe thingy doesnt have latest firefoxy?
[04:46] <drew> I like messing with the command line except when I cant do whatr I want to like installing from source
[04:47] <newbie2> and getting my wireless card to work is near impossible
[04:47] <drew> im in for a diffrent experince
[04:47] <adamant1988> I'm getting to that age where I'll be doing some very important things online, I don't want my credit card numbers or other important info stolen by spyware
[04:47] <Toma-> I made my g/fs dad think about linux after i told him the trojan and worm damage to his Windows XP box was beyond repair
[04:47] <mantizDE> http://klik.atekon.de/ every application you might wnat at your triger finger
[04:47] <gnomefreak> PetrolBomb: breezy will not have ff1,5 in it ever unless you install it manully for the ff upgrade wiki
[04:47] <new_linux_usr> gnomefreak: I'm having trouble running programs with root under my login
[04:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell PetrolBomb about ff1.5
[04:47] <Chousuke> mantizDE: klik isn't native to Ubuntu
[04:47] <agarcia> quiwen eres
[04:47] <new_linux_usr> it asks for a pw, then it just disappears
[04:47] <Chousuke> mantizDE: you should use APT. :)
[04:47] <nox-Hand> I am following this guide, that tells me how to install xgl. It says I should get this package:
[04:47] <gnomefreak> new_linux_usr: what programs and why as root?
[04:48] <nox-Hand> E: Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6.15-14-k7 <-- which I cannot get?
[04:48] <drew> the comand used to be scary but now its like the game u still dont know how to play but want to learn
[04:48] <adamant1988> But I'm also a beta tester galore, which is one reason linux and I don't get along really great yet
[04:48] <gnomefreak> nox-Hand: are you on breezy?
[04:48] <agarcia> whatch your name
[04:48] <nox-Hand> gnomefreak, Dapper
[04:48] <nox-Hand> Just upgraded today
[04:48] <new_linux_usr> gnomefreak: that command you sent me, and any System Administration Settings
[04:48] <adamant1988> I am always installing and uninstalling programs and testing them, I don't like being limited
[04:48] <gnomefreak> nox-Hand: join #ubuntu+1 please
[04:48] <skippy> does anyone know if theres a shortcut key which can paste an irc users name when i click on them (xchat irc) please?
[04:48] <Toma-> adamant1988: tell them "Game wont work. Not compatible with Linux." ;D
[04:48] <talon_> man, compiz is soo cool on dapper ;)
[04:48] <adamant1988> lol, I don't test games.
[04:49] <drew> okay so
[04:49] <gnomefreak> new_linux_usr: did you enable su?
[04:49] <adamant1988> I (for instance) downloaded at least 5 different "multi network instant message clients"
[04:49] <nox-Hand> gnomefreak, I'm there
[04:49] <drew> I want a graphical snes9x on my linux
[04:49] <adamant1988> Gaim, Trillian, and a few more obscure ones
[04:49] <gnomefreak> nox-Hand: now ask them for help they should beable to help
[04:49] <mantizDE> adamant1988: yes that makes your syytem alot safer because hackers cant understand exaclly what on in your system
[04:49] <adamant1988> I'm using SeaMonkey browser right now in fact :) it's a new one from mozilla :)
[04:49] <nox-Hand> gnomefreak, Cheers =)
[04:49] <new_linux_usr> gnomefreak: Thanks mucho, that helped
[04:50] <Toma-> drew: i use zsnes... the network play is awesome for mario kart :)
[04:50] <gnomefreak> new_linux_usr: what helped?
[04:50] <tdshiv> i can't seem to be able to ever use ./configure. Every time i try to use this to install a tarball, it tells me the file is not in the package. However, the instructions in the package say that it is there...any suggestions?
[04:50] <gnomefreak> new_linux_usr: you didnt enable su did you :(
[04:50] <adamant1988> Yeah, me and linux would get along a lot better if I understood the from source installations better.
[04:50] <new_linux_usr> gnomefreak: yeah.  I got the list open now, though
[04:50] <Toma-> yeee. bbl
[04:51] <gnomefreak> tdshiv: you need to unpack it first than cd into the newly made file
[04:51] <chainlynx> is dapper going to change between now and the official release date?
[04:51] <drew> so is zsnes easy to install
[04:51] <newbie2> ok I am telling it to cd /home/desktop and keep getting no such directory but its there I have it on the file browser what gives?
[04:51] <gnomefreak> new_linux_usr: not exactly a good idea
[04:51] <mantizDE> theres no perenial bugs in linux because every hacker has access to the source code
[04:51] <gnomefreak> chainlynx: no
[04:51] <mantizDE> hacker = security auditor
[04:51] <tdshiv> gnomefreak: i have already used the tar xvzf command to untar it and am in the directory
[04:51] <Jowi> newbie2: /home/username/Desktop
[04:51] <chainlynx> so why aren't they releasing it now?
[04:52] <kermit_> is there anyway to have someone remote help me on my computer?
[04:52] <newbie2> ok will try that
[04:52] <gnomefreak> chainlynx: its not done still bug fixing
[04:52] <Jowi> newbie2: and note the capital D in Desktop
[04:52] <chainlynx> aha, so it will change, in some minor sense
[04:52] <kermit_> or is that not possible
[04:52] <tdshiv> gonmefreak: root@PCC3:/home/shiv/sources/xvidcore-1.1.0# ./configure
[04:52] <tdshiv> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[04:52] <skippy> kermit_ you could install ssh and make a guest account
[04:52] <tdshiv> that's the message i get
[04:52] <new_linux_usr> kermit_: yeah, it is possible
[04:52] <newbie2> aaahhh
[04:52] <gnomefreak> no chainlynx it will not change at all its will be the same just updates
[04:52] <kermit_> how do i install ssh
[04:52] <chainlynx> oh i see, thanks
[04:53] <gnomefreak> kermit_: sudo apt-get isntall openshh-server
[04:53] <gnomefreak> ssh-server
[04:53] <newbie2> thanks that was my problem
[04:53] <newbie2> stupid capital letter
[04:53] <gnomefreak> openssh-server kermit_
[04:53] <Jowi> newbie2: all files and directories are case sensitive in linux. you can have two files one named "Hello" and another named "hello"
[04:53] <skippy> kermit_, first try the remote desktop app under "system", "preferences" it might work
[04:53] <nutterpc> gnomefreak, thank god I've got adsl2+ to update to dapper, lol, else it'd take aaaaaaages :)
[04:53] <skippy> but i personally just use ssh
[04:54] <mantizDE> Jowi: that something that allways puzzeled me back in windows
[04:54] <newbie2> thank you can you tell I have only ever used windoze yet
[04:54] <talon_> somebody know how to fix some glitches in compiz?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> ;) nutterpc it does take ages
[04:54] <rixxon> where do i set which archive server ubuntu uses?
[04:54] <mantizDE> why couldnt i have 2 fales with the same nam
[04:54] <skippy> talon_ what are they?
[04:54] <nutterpc> gnomefreak, its especially good when your ISP mirrors ubuntu as well :)
[04:54] <talon_> some artifacts in 3d of some games
[04:54] <gnomefreak> true
[04:54] <CraigRodway> rixxon: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:55] <talon_> then?
[04:55] <rixxon> thanks
[04:55] <skippy> your best off not using compiz when playing proper games
[04:55] <nutterpc> gnomefreak, I find the only thing which doesn't work right in ubuntu, without resorting to the 32bit emulation trick, is Flash.....on Ubuntu x64
[04:55] <skippy> its still a bit of a gfx hog
[04:56] <gnomefreak> nutterpc: 64bit is missing support for most non-free apps same with ppc
[04:56] <talon_> what do you mean by super-key?
[04:56] <nutterpc> gnomefreak, I know, sux doesn't it :S
[04:56] <skippy> super key  is usually the windows key
[04:56] <] GoldenDragon> can someone help me with sound? it plays too soft even though I've set every option in Volume to max.
[04:56] <tubbie> !easysource
[04:56] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:57] <] GoldenDragon> O_o
[04:57] <talon_> doesnt work though
[04:57] <adamant1988> gnomefreak are you any good at doing installations 'from source' (not from package managers or repositories)?
[04:57] <Jowi> ] GoldenDragon: rightclick on the volume control and check your PCM and Master settings. if your Master is high but your PCM is low it will be soft
[04:57] <tdshiv> Whenever i try to install from sourece, i get to the ./configure and it can never find the file. here is the error: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory. I am in the correct directory and the filed has been untarred, any suggestions?
[04:58] <yancheng> my i noe wat tools in linux tat can convert tab to space?
[04:58] <talon_> can i change it?
[04:58] <Jowi> tdshiv: is there a "configure" file in that directory?
[04:58] <Earthen> anybody know of a repo I can added so i can apt-get the latest version of dnsmasq 2.31
[04:58] <kermit_> ok installed ssh how do i open it
[04:58] <] GoldenDragon> Jowi, both Master and PCM are high.
[04:58] <tdshiv> Jowi: no, but the installation instructions say that is whta i should put in the command line
[04:58] <skippy> kermit_ once it is up, another user can use a telnet program to connect to your PC
[04:59] <skippy> do you have another PC in the house?
[04:59] <skybox> whats the quickes way to change your hostname?
[04:59] <Jowi> tdshiv: the installation instructions are wrong, or the package you downloaded are missing files.
[04:59] <kermit_> no only one
[04:59] <skippy> skybox, try sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[04:59] <tdshiv> Jowi: so there are no programs or antyhing ti may need to dl for ./configure to work?
[04:59] <nutterpc> gnomefreak, I've found Ubuntu x64 tho, once you set it up, fine tune it a bit, runs quite fast
[05:00] <skippy> skybox, or sudo gedit /etc/host.conf
[05:00] <Jowi> tdshiv: nope.
[05:00] <skybox> order hosts,bind
[05:00] <skybox> multi on
[05:00] <skybox> skippy hosts is full of IP6, and my ip number, how do I change my name? host.conf contains
[05:00] <nutterpc> fiddling with hdparm, can get 54mb/sec........which I can't complain about :)
[05:00] <skybox> order,hosts, bind, multi on?
[05:00] <Bicchi> I have upgraded to dapper and have a small issue. When I go to Nautilus and click on "Computer" I show to icons that point to the same location. "20GB Volume: Root Volume"  and another one called   "Filesystem". How can I get rid of one.
[05:00] <nutterpc> off an 80Gb Seagate 7200.7
[05:01] <rixxon> how do you run a software installed through synaptic if it doesn't show up in Applications ?
[05:01] <skippy> or skybox, go to system > preferences >network on your menu bar and click the general tab
[05:01] <kermit_> would anyone like to take on helping me through ssh or remote desktop?
[05:01] <tdshiv> jowi: thanks, i will try and see if i can get another version of teh package
[05:01] <skippy> there are loads of ways of doing it
[05:01] <drew> how do you install zsnes
[05:01] <Jowi> ] GoldenDragon: all sounds are soft or just  music CD?
[05:01] <skippy> ok kermit_ 1) is you linux PC connected straight to the internet?
[05:01] <nutterpc> drew: apt-get install zsnes
[05:01] <kermit_> yes
[05:01] <Jowi> tdshiv: sometimes a "make" will get it working anyway
[05:01] <skybox> Skippy, host name is c83.x.x.x.x my ip number, how do I change that to a name?
[05:02] <] GoldenDragon> umm.. just AVI and mp3(i'm assuming other things too..)
[05:02] <nutterpc> you may have to enable another repository tho
[05:02] <] GoldenDragon> oh, and system sounds too.
[05:02] <kermit_> yes it is skippy
[05:03] <skippy> skybox , the first two lines of my hosts file are 127.0.0.1	localhost
[05:03] <skippy> 127.0.1.1	skippy-linux
[05:03] <skippy> you can change where it says "skippy-linux" to a name for your host
[05:03] <drew> okay after I put in apt-get install zsnes
[05:03] <drew> how do I use it now
[05:03] <Jowi> ] GoldenDragon: the only other way i can see is to turn up the volume on the speakers
[05:03] <skippy> or just use the gui tool in system > prefs >networking
[05:04] <] GoldenDragon> lol, thats also maxed out xD
[05:04] <skippy> ok kermit_, open firefox and type http://checkip.dyndns.org
[05:04] <Jowi> ] GoldenDragon: you connected the speakers to the line-out or the speaker plug?
[05:04] <drew> it got it but I dont know what to do next
[05:04] <skybox> let's try it
[05:04] <Rower-> Hello, Can i put my old linux distribution from my old computer to a new one, and it will detect the new hardware and work anyway?
[05:04] <gnomefreak> drew: you can try killall gnome-panel if in gnome than see if it was added to menu if not than just type the name of app in terminal it should open it
[05:04] <kermit_> 66.205.254.158
[05:04] <skippy> kermit_ that is your IP address, you need to install a telnet/ssh program on another computer and then connect to your linux box
[05:05] <drew> sweet thx
[05:05] <drew> I got it
[05:05] <skippy> kermit_ i recommend putty if you are using a windows pc
[05:05] <] GoldenDragon> but I used the same one I did when I used windows.
[05:05] <kermit_> but i only have one
[05:05] <skippy> kermit_ you just use your user name and passord to connect
[05:05] <krame> !mp3
[05:05] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:05] <Jowi> drew: type "zsnes" in a terminal :)
[05:07] <skybox> skippy, my new hostname is created, but my old one is still there, since I cant get sudo with the new one, here's how it looks like dragon@newname
[05:07] <lsuactiafner> RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3114 [SATALink/SATARaid]  Serial ATA Controller (rev 02) <-- is that hardware raid of software only?
[05:07] <skippy> was dragon your old hostname?
[05:07] <skybox> yeah
[05:07] <skippy> hmm hang on
[05:07] <skybox> thanks
[05:07] <skippy> dragon is the username
[05:08] <skippy> so your user account is called dragon and your host is now called newname
[05:08] <skybox> argh
[05:08] <another_lemur> lsuactiafner, most motherboard raid support is equivalent to software raidd
[05:08] <] GoldenDragon> thank you jowi!!! it was indeed plugged into the wrong one.
[05:08] <skybox> ok, so how do I change my username/sudo rights?
[05:08] <skippy> type "whoami" and see what it days skybox
[05:08] <skybox> dragon
[05:08] <Jowi> ] GoldenDragon: no probs :)
[05:08] <] GoldenDragon> umm, just for future reference... what is the correct plug to put it in?
[05:08] <skybox> that's what it says after "whoami" skippy
[05:09] <skippy> ok thats cool, you currently have a user account called dragon
[05:09] <Jowi> ] GoldenDragon: connect speakers to the speaker plug. any recording device to the line-out.
[05:09] <skippy> you want to make a new one : "System" > "Administration" > "Users and Groups" skybox
[05:09] <skippy> make a new user
[05:09] <] GoldenDragon> k, thanks!
[05:10] <skippy> then you can use "su newuser" to switch to that account
[05:10] <skippy> i dont recommend it though to be honest
[05:10] <Chri[s] > is there a digital camera how too?
[05:11] <Chri[s] > gphoto prints out errors that my camera doesnt support generic capture
[05:11] <mikedep333> hey guys, I'm a linux user with a decent amount of experience that wants to use ubuntu with KDE primarily and gnome as a backup. Would you suggest I use dapper drake ubuntu and then install the KDE packages, or use dapper kubuntu?
[05:11] <mikedep333> I saw an article suggesting the former a while ago
[05:12] <skybox> skippy, can I delete my admin account, and make a new one?
[05:12] <spikeb> mikedep333: doesn't really matter
[05:12] <skybox> I just wanna change my username, I don't want to have 2 accounts, is that possible?
[05:12] <skippy> skybox, no dont delete it, just make a new admin account
[05:12] <I-CEE> omg the sense of achivment when you do something in linux is amazing forgot that feeling playing with windohs
[05:12] <skybox> ok
[05:12] <spikeb> mikedep333: since you're going to be wanting both desktops
[05:12] <skippy> once its working well delete the old, but please dont delete it today
[05:12] <mikedep333> yeah
[05:12] <skippy> wait to you know your up and running with the new one skybox :D
[05:12] <mikedep333> but is one better integrated or have more components or something?
[05:13] <skybox> hehhehe, thanks for the advice :)
[05:13] <skippy> kermit_ i just took the liberty of portscanning you mate, your ssh is working
[05:13] <kermit_> ok
[05:13] <skippy> so kermit_ all you need is to download putty onto a windows PC, and you can log yourself in to your linux box
[05:13] <root> hi
[05:13] <another_lemur> hello evil root
[05:14] <_mjolnir_> ^^
[05:14] <another_lemur> :)
[05:14] <kermit_> but how do i let someone else on and help me
[05:14] <Mastastealth> mike: kubuntu and ubuntu are the same core with different WMs. Right now I think Ubuntu is more "integrated" or polished because its had the most work. However, seeing as how KDE is very integrated within itseld, and you want to use that primarily, you'd probably want Kubunut :)
[05:14] <kermit_> same way?
[05:14] <_mjolnir_> i wanted to isntall ubuntu 5.1
[05:14] <_mjolnir_> i thought there would be no problems but:
[05:14] <skippy> kermit_ make a new user account called "helper" or something similar
[05:14] <mikedep333> mastastealth: I see, thanks
[05:14] <djpate> anyone could help me to fix my sound here?
[05:14] <_mjolnir_> its seems that it isnt possible to run the gui
[05:14] <skippy> give them admin rights use System > Admin > Users and groups to make the new user kermit_
[05:15] <martin__> #ubuntu-es
[05:15] <christopher> hello i am  playing a mp4 video ousing   mplayer  the problem is the video is to dark  i tried using   4 to increase the brightness  and  Ctrl  + 4   doesnt work
[05:15] <another_lemur> kermit_ if you allow others to ssh into your box, make their home dir be on a mountpoint that is flagged noexec
[05:15] <skippy> then they can log in with ssh and do stuff for you
[05:15] <another_lemur> kermit_, and the same thing goes for .tmp
[05:15] <another_lemur> kermit_, and the same thing goes for /tmp
[05:15] <skippy> and kermit_ pick strong passwords like "jkhjkh76786kjh" :), remember that anyone can get full access to your PC through ssh if they know your passwords
[05:15] <skippy> so gaurd em with your life
[05:15] <martin__> #ubuntu-mx
[05:16] <kermit_> ok
[05:16] <skippy> if your password is something dumb like "kermit1" then change it asap mate :)
[05:16] <another_lemur> martin__, /join #ubuntu-es
[05:16] <_mjolnir_> how can i start the gui?i ?
[05:16] <_mjolnir_> i think my graphic card isnt supportet
[05:16] <_mjolnir_> t=d
[05:17] <another_lemur> _mjolnir_, what is your vid card?
[05:17] <Mastastealth> mjolnir "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[05:17] <_mjolnir_> ati xpress 200m
[05:17] <skippy> now kermit_ if you have a friend whos good at linux, just give them the user name and password to your "helper" account, they will be able to access your computer and send messages to you through the terminal
[05:17] <_mjolnir_> stop
[05:17] <_mjolnir_> not writing
[05:17] <_mjolnir_> ^^
[05:17] <_mjolnir_> ok
[05:17] <_mjolnir_> =)
[05:17] <_mjolnir_> thanks
[05:18] <_mjolnir_> if it doesnt work i'll be back ^^
[05:18] <Mastastealth> you might also want to replace "start" with stop or restart
[05:18] <skippy> skynet, hows it going? have you got your new user set up yet?
[05:18] <kermit_> ok thanks
[05:18] <skippy> sorry i meant skybox :)
[05:18] <Don_Jarmo> Howdy everybody
[05:19] <another_lemur> ho Don_Jarmo
[05:19] <skippy> i watched the Terminator too many times as a child :P
[05:19] <another_lemur> er, Hi!
[05:19] <Don_Jarmo> hehe
[05:19] <skippy> howdy Don
[05:19] <another_lemur> skippy, lol
[05:19] <skippy> hehe
[05:19] <kspath> skippy: You almost told them that skynet exists again.
[05:19] <kspath> oops
[05:19] <skippy> i wish :)
[05:19] <another_lemur> skippy, children shouldn't watch terminator!
[05:19] <skippy> hehe i had nightmares about the nukes in T2
[05:20] <skippy> nuclear war is an ugly thing :P
[05:20] <Don_Jarmo> im kinda tired of Gaim/Amsn .. are there any page on the net where i can find a bunch IM programs listed?
[05:20] <Don_Jarmo> been googling around not to lucky atm
[05:20] <skippy> Don_Jarmo have you tried searching synaptic
[05:20] <mikedep333> don_jarmo: I'm surprised you don't like gaim
[05:20] <skippy> gaim is awesome though
[05:20] <mikedep333> but regardless, Kopete (the KDE IM client) is good
[05:20] <skippy> much better than M$N messenger
[05:20] <another_lemur> apt-cache search messenger
[05:20] <Don_Jarmo> skippy aah synaptic ofcourse haven really thought about it:)
[05:21] <kspath> Don_Jarmo:  naim, centericq, pork
[05:21] <root> ok doesnt work
[05:21] <Don_Jarmo> thanx everybody :)
[05:21] <skippy> Don_Jarmo, synaptic is great fun
[05:21] <another_lemur> hello evil root
[05:21] <_mjolnir_> ^^
[05:21] <skippy> i spent hours searching it when i started
[05:21] <_mjolnir_> xD
[05:21] <skippy> :)
[05:21] <kspath>  /ignore _mjolnir_
[05:21] <kspath> oops
[05:21] <_mjolnir_> hey?
[05:21] <_mjolnir_> =(
[05:21] <skippy> lol
[05:21] <another_lemur> that really made me lol
[05:21] <skippy> :S
[05:22] <_mjolnir_> i hadn't done anything
[05:22] <_mjolnir_> =(
[05:22] <kspath> _mjolnir_:  you
[05:22] <Don_Jarmo> yah .. hehe well atleast XGL up and running love it btw:)  Win is out of my HD ubuntu ftw.. :p
[05:22] <skippy> reminds me of playing WOW, i used to put someone on ignore every 5 minutes :)
[05:22] <kspath> _mjolnir_: did
[05:22] <kspath> _mjolnir_: not ?
[05:22] <mikedep333> wow, I have to give ubuntu credit for hosting really fast primary mirrors of their images
[05:22] <_mjolnir_> what had i done?
[05:22] <skippy> yeah Don_Jarmo, XGL is awesome
[05:22] <kspath> _mjolnir_: Try not to hit enter so often.
[05:23] <mikedep333> skippy: have you used it yourself (or are you using it now?)
[05:23] <skippy> mikedep333 i have XGL/compiz running now on Dapper AMD64
[05:23] <_mjolnir_> ok... the error i get: "/usr/x11r6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a" --> no symbols found
[05:23] <skippy> mikedep333, and it runs very well, my gfx card is a nvidia 6200
[05:23] <mikedep333> I experienced a bunch of trouble with opengl apps on suse 10.1's Xgl
[05:23] <mikedep333> yeah, I Know it doesn't need a monster card and works with nvidia well
[05:24] <another_lemur> skippy, what is xgl?
[05:24] <skippy> well video playback with totem is hardly perfect
[05:24] <skippy> another_lemur, xgl is a desktop manager program, and compiz is a windows decorator
[05:24] <jenda> hey, what is a good alternative for Microsoft Web Access? My school uses that and I have a weak stomach...
[05:24] <mikedep333> a bunch of opengl apps were transparent when they shouldn't be, apps thought opengl wasn't available to them, and when they did, they thought it was only opengl 1.2
[05:24] <ShadeS> I'm having trouble pinging my router and the internet but I can ping this pc
[05:24] <mikedep333> have you experienced stuff like that?
[05:24] <kaiSVK> skippy: yes ... I just installed ubuntu ... I can see picture  but no sound out of it
[05:24] <skybox> skippy, ok I have another accout, but... it really need to modify my exsisting one, since all my personal edits are on the main user account/also I don't want another home directory, there must be a way to "change" my user name on the primary one, if I click the the tab on "dragon" I can only change realname but not username, any ideas?
[05:24] <livevil> join #ubuntu
[05:25] <skippy> mikedep333, remmeber that the code is immature, it is changing all the time, it didnt work for me a month ago :)
[05:25] <_mjolnir_> after that: Radeon[0] : [dri] DRIScreenIni failed: Disabling DRI
[05:25] <another_lemur> skippy, i have nv 6100 with nvidia-glx.  wil xgl/compiz help me any?
[05:25] <livevil> Hi
[05:25] <_mjolnir_> what does that all mean?
[05:25] <mikedep333> skippy: yes
[05:25] <McScruff> anyone haveing trouble installing the latest flash plugin?
[05:26] <kspath> _mjolnir_: Did you do a search regarding DRI ?
[05:26] <skippy> another_lemur yes it should run fine, i will find you a good link with a guide, what version of ubuntu are you using - and is it i386 or amd64
[05:26] <livevil> Someone can help me? I can't found drivers for my aj17 acer monitor. So my monitor resolution can't go over 640 X 480
[05:26] <mikedep333> but I want to know if these bugs/lackings of features have been resolved in the version of xgl that ubuntu is using
[05:26] <another_lemur> _mjolnir_, it means that the driver you are using does not support dri
[05:26] <gnomefreak> !fixres
[05:26] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:26] <gnomefreak> livevil: ^^^
[05:26] <skippy> mikedep333, no it is still quite buggy, it is not officially an ubuntu package yet
[05:26] <another_lemur> skippy, i am using dapper k7, eventhough I have an amd64
[05:26] <mikedep333> yeah
[05:26] <livevil> !fixres
[05:26] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:26] <mikedep333> but have you experienced those bugs?
[05:26] <livevil> thank
[05:27] <mikedep333> with opengl apps on Xgl really not being happy
[05:27] <djpate> where can i pay someone to help me fix my linux?
[05:27] <Sub> mikedep333, take it to #ubuntu-xgl :D
[05:27] <gnomefreak> can you guys take the xgl talk to #ubuntu-xgl or #ubuntu+1 please
[05:27] <skybox> skippy sorry to bugger you, but did you get my last msg?
[05:27] <mikedep333> sub: wow, there's a channel for that? thanks
[05:27] <skippy> mikedep333, here are my bugs !) video playback has artifacts 2) some programs dont have menu bars 3) scrampbed graphics with some open gl progs
[05:27] <mikedep333> I see
[05:28] <skippy> sorry skybox could you repeat it please
[05:28] <skippy> if it was a private message it wont let you send unless your registered
[05:28] <kspath> !tell mikedep333 about xgl
[05:28] <skybox> skippy, ok I have another accout, but... it really need to modify my exsisting one, since all my personal edits are on the main user account/also I don't want another home directory, there must be a way to "change" my user name on the primary one, if I click the the tab on "dragon" I can only change realname but not username, any ideas?
[05:28] <somedirection17> can anyone point me in the direction of how to mount a usb drive via the command line?
[05:28] <another_lemur> !tell another_lemur about xgl
[05:29] <skippy> ok skybox, the best think is to just copy the contents of /home/dragon into /home/newuser
[05:30] <DSteele> !tell DSteele about xgl
[05:30] <dooglus> somedirection17: mount /dev/whatever /mnt/whatever
[05:30] <eshowl> hi everyone, i am using a Asus Laptop running Ubuntu, the battery can holds about more than 2 hours when I run windows; however, it only runs for 1 hour on ubuntu... can anyone help?
[05:30] <skippy> you cant just rename an account AFAIK know though skybox, you have to make a new one and migrate your home directory into it
[05:30] <skybox> skippy, yeah but that won't solve my problem, since my entire system is heavily customized
[05:30] <ShadeS> Anyone have any ideas?
[05:30] <kaiSVK> I have problem with evolution in Ubuntu
[05:30] <skybox> oscar is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[05:30] <skybox> that's a joke right ?
[05:30] <somedirection17> dooglus: if I just plugged it in would it be @ /dev/usb1?
[05:31] <skybox> oscar is my 3rd account I created, reported, to whom and where ?
[05:31] <another_lemur> to root@localhost
[05:31] <skybox> ah
[05:31] <kaiSVK> Error while synchronising Inbox
[05:31] <eshowl> hi everyone, i am using a Asus Laptop running Ubuntu, the battery can holds about more than 2 hours when I run windows; however, it only runs for 1 hour on ubuntu... can anyone help?
[05:31] <kaiSVK> whats that ?
[05:31] <dooglus> skybox: it's trivial to change your username isn't it?  using "sudo usermod -l newname" ?
[05:31] <kaiSVK> how can I fix it  ?
[05:31] <dooglus> somedirection17: /var/log/kern.log might tell you that
[05:32] <HP_Owner> hi
[05:32] <skippy> skybox you could try dooglus's trick but if i was you i would test it on a dummy account 1st
[05:32] <uboat> Coul I posibly use ubuntu as a fire wall and file /print seaver?
[05:32] <skippy> just incase it doesnt copy your directories over
[05:32] <dooglus> skybox: "trick"???
[05:33] <E0x> the RC image of dapper live cd are installable too ?
[05:33] <dooglus> skybox: usermod is part of the base install!
[05:33] <dinamizador> hola
[05:33] <DBO> !es
[05:33] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:33] <dooglus> skybox: and it's "sudo usermod -l newname oldname"
[05:33] <gnomefreak> E0x: yes
[05:33] <E0x> gnomefreak: thx
[05:33] <HP_Owner> hi guy, i;m having problems installing ubuntu next to windows, it always seems to happen when i try installing any linux distro
[05:34] <HP_Owner> guys*
[05:34] <dinamizador> cual es e
[05:35] <uboat> Have you tried re installing windows and sizing down the ntfs partition?
[05:35] <eshowl> anyone has any idea on laptop battery?
[05:35] <HP_Owner> i get to the install screen and i press enter then it looks like its un zipping some file off the cd then the message "ready" apears then resarts my pc, with out linux being installed
[05:36] <another_lemur> !es
[05:37] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:37] <niki> what do i use to extract a .rar file?
[05:37] <another_lemur> unrar
[05:37] <dfgas> heck, anyone have an idea about any battery?
[05:38] <VR_> niki: you need to install rar first, sudo apt-get install rar
[05:38] <les> After apt-get install squid am unable to start squid any fixes
[05:38] <neoncode> I'm gonna wait untill this whole Xgl/AIGLX thing matures first then upgrade to the pretty graphics. =)
[05:38] <somedirection17> dooglus: I don't even anything in /dev such as /dev/usb*
[05:38] <dfgas> i can only set stuff for ac power and thats it
[05:38] <uboat> HP_owner:  I saying you need to reinstall windows and resize the ntfs or fat pattion in the windows installer thane go back angd install ubuntu.
[05:38] <MetaMorfoziS> !kwebdesktop
[05:38] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS
[05:38] <niki> thanks another_lemur, VR_
[05:38] <capgadget> 6.06 RC seems to have gotten stuck in vmware.  the beta installed just fine except for some lvm-common post install script problems.
[05:38] <dinamizador> hola alguien en espaol
[05:38] <HP_Owner> uboat: thanks i'll try that
[05:38] <dooglus> somedirection17: I don't know what the device will be called
[05:39] <VR_> does anyone have a sort of list of laptops that work out of the box with ubuntu? thinkpads maybe?
[05:39] <les> exit
[05:39] <martin__> #ubunto-mx
[05:39] <nomadsoul> VR_: try linuxlaptops.org
[05:40] <VR_> nomadsoul: thanks
[05:40] <nomadsoul> o search for linux mobile on google
[05:40] <niki> VR_, another one to check out is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[05:40] <martin__> #ubuntu-mx
[05:40] <nomadsoul> if it says that works with linux it works with ubuntu, i think :P
[05:40] <VR_> niki: ah, yeah. i forgot about that
[05:40] <VR_> thanks
[05:40] <dauoalagio> hey guys
[05:40] <wory> hi!
[05:40] <nomadsoul> VR_: i think thinkpads are 100%linux compliant
[05:40] <nomadsoul> if not 100& 98%
[05:40] <nomadsoul> P
[05:41] <VR_> nomadsoul: even wireless?
[05:41] <nomadsoul> it depends on the wireless
[05:41] <nomadsoul> if they are centrino
[05:41] <sparkleytone> thinkpads generally don't have ?bercheap parts that have little to no driver support
[05:41] <nomadsoul> intel has release opensource linux drivers for linux :P
[05:41] <Chri[s] > i'm so pissed
[05:41] <Chri[s] > my camera worked fine in breezy badger but doesnt in dapper
[05:41] <sparkleytone> nomadsoul: they are open source?
[05:42] <nomadsoul> sparkleytone: i have a thinkpad and it works 100% under linux (excpet for the modem that i have never tested)
[05:42] <_mjolnir_> re: ok, but i had tried to install a newer version of my graphiccard driver and i get an error
[05:42] <nomadsoul> sparkleytone: i think so. i mean the ipw2200
[05:42] <Chri[s] > i install gphoto2 but it errors out and says my camera doesnt support generic capture
[05:42] <amphi> sparkleytone: yeah, but not the evil fw ;)
[05:42] <nomadsoul> i've seen the source code so.. :P
[05:42] <Chetic> is there a way to become superuser other than typing su in Ubuntu?
[05:42] <VR_> nomadsoul: what kind of modem is it
[05:42] <Chri[s] > Yet there are pictures i've already imported to my desktop
[05:42] <nomadsoul> i do not remember
[05:42] <sparkleytone> Chetic: sudo bash
[05:42] <sparkleytone> ;)
[05:42] <amphi> sparkleytone: the latest driver has a 'regulatory daemon'...
[05:42] <nomadsoul> i speak o the dialup modem
[05:42] <sparkleytone> so simple you never think of it
[05:42] <yggdrasil_> can somone tell me how to unload and reload my atheros netowork card module ?
[05:42] <VR_> oh ok, dialupo isn't something im concerned about
[05:43] <VR_> dialup*
[05:43] <nomadsoul> yggdrasil_: rmmod modelu_name
[05:43] <dauoalagio> how to install the kde desktop from gnome and have both usable?
[05:43] <nomadsoul> yggdrasil_: rmmod module_name
[05:43] <nomadsoul> modprobe module_name
[05:43] <yggdrasil_> hmm..
[05:43] <yggdrasil_> ok
[05:43] <yggdrasil_> how do i know what moudlen namee itis
[05:43] <nomadsoul> dauoalagio: [troll] i've never heard of an useable gnome [/troll] 
[05:43] <yggdrasil_> i see a few things that it could bee
[05:44] <sparkleytone> nomadsoul: everything i see on the intel site is a binary
[05:44] <dauoalagio> i mean have both gnome and kde
[05:44] <PetrolBomb> How can I switch to the KDE thingy
[05:44] <PetrolBomb> I hear it is nice?
[05:44] <Chri[s] > dauoalagio, i have both gnome and kde
[05:44] <SleepyDude> dauoalagio: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:44] <dauoalagio> thats what i want
[05:44] <dauoalagio> thank you sleepy
[05:45] <SleepyDude> welcome :)
[05:45] <nomadsoul> sparkleytone: http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
[05:45] <dauoalagio> sleepy it says it cant find the package
[05:45] <PetrolBomb> I can find it
[05:45] <sparkleytone> oh yeah i forgot about that
[05:45] <PetrolBomb> busy downlaoding
[05:46] <dauoalagio> what did you do petrol?
[05:46] <PetrolBomb> I went....
[05:46] <SleepyDude> what if you search for it in Synaptic?
[05:46] <dauoalagio> give me the link
[05:46] <PetrolBomb> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:46] <dauoalagio> i searched for kde and kubuntu
[05:46] <sparkleytone> nomadsoul: that works for all of the latest intel wifi no?
[05:46] <PetrolBomb> password
[05:47] <dauoalagio> what is the package i need to download?
[05:47] <PetrolBomb> WHy is Linux so mean to AMD64?
[05:47] <nomadsoul> sparkleytone: if you take a look at the LICENSE file it says
[05:47] <sparkleytone> not that i would ever use linux for a wifi-connected situation, but its good to know
[05:47] <PetrolBomb> Or am I wrong
[05:47] <nomadsoul> "This software program is licensed subject to the GNU General Public License
[05:47] <sparkleytone> nomadsoul: if its at sourceforge i don't need any more proof ;)
[05:47] <nomadsoul> sparkleytone: i haven't understood your question
[05:47] <SleepyDude> hmm weird.. kubuntu-desktop should be in your repositories dauoalagio
[05:48] <roast> SleepyDude: he might not have any external apt sources listed
[05:48] <dauoalagio> how do i get it sleepy?
[05:48] <PetrolBomb> Linux doesnt heart A64?
[05:48] <usuario> hello somebody know how can I enter in spain channel
[05:48] <PetrolBomb> ubuntu-es
 nomadsoul: that works for all of the latest intel wifi no?<<< what does this mean (i'm not english)
[05:49] <capgadget> Linux isn't mean to amd64.  Just some of it.
[05:49] <sparkleytone> nomadsoul: don't worry about it, i was just being lazy...i can read the site and docs ;)
[05:49] <nomadsoul> :P
[05:49] <PetrolBomb> Yeh cap
[05:49] <SleepyDude> dauoalagio, launch Synaptic and lick settings>repositories
[05:49] <nomadsoul> btw the firmware isn't opensource
[05:49] <PetrolBomb> Very mean to me and my A64
[05:49] <skybox> Thanks delg something? and thanks skippy for helping out :)
[05:49] <dauoalagio> okay sleepy
[05:49] <dauoalagio> i did...
[05:50] <sparkleytone> PetrolBomb: my limited experience with amd64 linux has been pleasant enough...what are your problems?
[05:50] <SleepyDude> make sure all of the boxes are checked
[05:50] <wubrgamer> actualy everybody knows this, where is xserver-xorg's config file ? on ubuntu ?
[05:50] <sparkleytone> PetrolBomb: that being said, i only use linux for servers as a very strict rule
[05:50] <PetrolBomb> SParkleytone,general stuff
[05:50] <dauoalagio> there is only one
[05:50] <PetrolBomb> Nothing catastrophic
[05:50] <dauoalagio> breezy badger
[05:50] <sparkleytone> PetrolBomb: example?
[05:50] <wubrgamer> dapper
[05:51] <drew> hey
[05:51] <linuxbomb> Is there a reason why a dvd player will play a dvd but not a computer dvd player , I get a lot of bad sector errors from dmesg
[05:51] <PetrolBomb> Installation stuff
[05:51] <drew> again
[05:51] <SleepyDude> ok you probably need to add more repositories
[05:51] <PetrolBomb> and programs not supporting A64
[05:51] <capgadget> Not up to speed on ubuntu, but fedora carries around 32 and 64 bit libraries.  It gets glitchy when programs grab the wrong one.  Especially with gcc 4.1.1
[05:51] <drew> anybody know a good n64 emu
[05:51] <dauoalagio> and i do that by...?
[05:51] <drew> that I can get in apt-get
[05:51] <sparkleytone> PetrolBomb: the programs shouldn't really care once they are binaries...if they are 32bit they'll run 32 bit, etc
[05:51] <SleepyDude> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:52] <mish4> how do i make my fonts look nicer, i tried doing some ubuntu guide stuff, with apt-get install ... and the file they say to edit, did not exist for me.
[05:52] <drew> is there a way to update to the newest ubuntu without burning the cds
[05:52] <PetrolBomb> Sparklefactory,I'm fine though,great experience using a different OS then WIndows
[05:53] <PetrolBomb> Plus I'm from SOuth Africa,so I feel a connection to Ubuntu
[05:53] <skippy> drew, add dapper to your sources and do apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:53] <bosco> does anyone know the script to update E17 in ubuntu
[05:53] <Chetic> how do you uhm.. search for packages to install that include "vnc" in their name?
[05:53] <gnomefreak> drew: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[05:54] <gnomefreak> !e17
[05:54] <ubotu> The next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or Install HOWTO at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingE17Howto
[05:54] <dauoalagio> ahhh sleepy...it wasnt showing me the disabled binaries
[05:54] <gnomefreak> bosco: ^^^^
[05:54] <Don_Jarmo> !e17
[05:54] <mish4> !help me with fonts
[05:54] <drew> thx gnome
[05:54] <SleepyDude> ah there you go
[05:54] <gnomefreak> mish4: what is the problem with fonts?
[05:54] <bosco> gnomefreak, what ^^^^:)
[05:54] <PetrolBomb> ANyone got a link for dif between kde and Gnome
[05:54] <mish4> id like to figure out wha t i need to do, to make firefox look normal
[05:54] <PetrolBomb> And can I choose either at the logon
[05:55] <drew> well I guess if Im gonna update Is gonna have to restart so cya laterz again
[05:55] <gnomefreak> bosco: read what ubotu said there are links to help you with e17
[05:56] <amee2k> hi all
[05:57] <amee2k> i just downloaded the 6.06 CD ISO and booted it
[05:57] <amee2k> what is the root password of the live CD?
[05:57] <gnomefreak> amee2k: there isnt one
[05:57] <PetrolBomb> hehe
[05:57] <amee2k> o.O
[05:57] <PetrolBomb> I figured that one out myself,luckily
[05:57] <gnomefreak> amee2k: what are you trying to do?
[05:58] <widemos> hi all, somebody managed to run sadms (http://sadms.sourceforge.net) on dapper?
[05:58] <gnomefreak> the livecd should boot you right into the desktop
[05:58] <amee2k> mounting a partition that wasn't recognized
[05:58] <bosco> what does this mean   -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[05:58] <bosco> Checkout repo 'e17' ...
[05:58] <bosco> cvs [checkout aborted] : connect to cvs.sourceforge.net(66.35.250.207):2401 failed: No route to host
[05:58] <amee2k> this is a bad joke is it?
[05:58] <dinamizador> hola
[05:59] <dinamizador> alguien habla espaol
[05:59] <dinamizador> hola
[05:59] <gnomefreak> !es
[05:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:59] <gnomefreak> bosco: please dont do that again
[05:59] <amee2k> how can i get a root shell on the live/install CD?
[05:59] <gnomefreak> amee2k: sudo
[05:59] <gnomefreak> sudo -i
[05:59] <amee2k> ty
[05:59] <Chetic> I want to start using Ubuntu.. do I get 6.06?
[06:00] <gnomefreak> Chetic: are you on windows now?
[06:00] <Chetic> Even though it's a RC
[06:00] <Chetic> Yeah gnomefreak
[06:00] <Chetic> I'll be dual-booting
[06:00] <gnomefreak> !rc
[06:00] <ubotu> The release candidate for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. For more info on how to get the release candidate see http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/
[06:00] <gnomefreak> Chetic: theres the link
[06:00] <Chetic> Well yeah but.. I don't want 5.10?
[06:00] <gnomefreak> Chetic: it will be released in a few days
[06:00] <Chetic> So should I wait or.. what?
[06:00] <gnomefreak> Chetic: thats not 5.10 thats 6.06
[06:01] <gnomefreak> Chetic: no go for it
[06:01] <PetrolBomb> Can you auto upgrade to it gnome?
[06:01] <Chetic> Yeah but 6.06 is only RC, not finished :p
[06:01] <gnomefreak> its safe
[06:01] <Chetic> oh ok
[06:01] <Chetic> Thanks
[06:01] <gnomefreak> Chetic: its finished just getting some minor bug fixes
[06:01] <irelandshope> I am using 6.06 LTS will it update to the release version on the 1st?
[06:01] <gnomefreak> PetrolBomb: on breezy you cant run gnome 2.14
[06:01] <fantasai> gnome won't start, what should I do to fix this?
[06:01] <fantasai> should I reinstall Ubuntu?
[06:01] <gnomefreak> irelandshope: keep your updates up to date
[06:02] <gnomefreak> \fanwhat does it say instead of starting?
[06:02] <gnomefreak> fantasai: what does it say?
[06:02] <fantasai> gnomefreak: it starts enough to get to  a blank background with a mouse
[06:02] <paul_> Is there a way to configure amarok to play audio cd?
[06:02] <fantasai> gnomefreak: but the spash screen doesn't show up
[06:02] <irelandshope> gnomefreak ok
[06:02] <fantasai> gnomefreak: splash
[06:03] <fantasai> gnomefreak: and it doesn't finish booting
[06:03] <fantasai> gnomefreak: even in failsafe mode
[06:03] <gnomefreak> fantasai: do you get the usplash (where its loading the modules)?
[06:03] <fantasai> gnomefreak: no
[06:03] <fantasai> gnomefreak: this wasn't a problem until yesterday or so
[06:03] <gnomefreak> fantasai: it dies right after grub?
[06:03] <fantasai> gnomefreak: when I ran system updates
[06:03] <Lemino> why do I get "CUPS-server could not be contacted" (translated from swedish) when I try to conf. my printer?
[06:03] <fantasai> gnomefreak: no, it completes the boot process
[06:03] <fantasai> gnomefreak:  I can log in through the graphical screen
[06:03] <fantasai> gnomefreak: but I can't get a desktop
[06:04] <gnomefreak> fantasai: so you are getting the usplash with the progress bar?
[06:04] <fantasai> gnomefreak: yes
[06:04] <gnomefreak> ok fantasai does it give an error after trying to open gnome?
[06:04] <fantasai> gnomefreak: not that I could see
[06:05] <fantasai> gnomefreak: it just stopped loading anything
[06:05] <dsl981> hi, after upgrading to dapper from breeze, I can no longer get the network working
[06:05] <gnomefreak> fantasai: ok try this   sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[06:05] <fantasai> gnomefreak: ok
[06:05] <gnomefreak> fantasai: try running that let me know if it installs anything or wants to at all
[06:05] <eyda|mon> this this is what happens when I type ifup eth0
[06:05] <eyda|mon> http://rafb.net/paste/results/KuPlKD38.html
[06:06] <gnomefreak> fantasai: is it installing packageS?
[06:06] <gnomefreak> good morning elkbuntu
[06:07] <elkbuntu> g'morn
[06:07] <PetrolBomb> Gnomefreak,so I apt-getted the kubuntu now I'm at the xorg thingy,must I chose GDM???
[06:07] <fantasai> gnomefreak: it's only going to reinstall about 15k
[06:07] <PetrolBomb> If I want gnome
[06:07] <fantasai> gnomefreak: I don't think that's going to help
[06:07] <eyda|mon> anyone know why installing dapper would cause my network not to work anymore?
[06:07] <gnomefreak> PetrolBomb: you can choose either one gdm is gnome diplay manager adn kde is k disply manger
[06:07] <PetrolBomb> K nice thnx!
[06:08] <r0bby> what's the next unstable branch going to be called
[06:08] <buvens> all my internet apps are terribly slow, I disabled ipv6, but still they are slow. i disabled it manually in firefox and now firefox is fast
[06:08] <buvens> but the rest is still slow
[06:08] <buvens> any ides
[06:08] <buvens> *ideas?
[06:08] <DBO> r0bby, edgy eft
[06:08] <dauoalagio> okay...i have ubtuntu 5.10 when dapper is released will i be able to upgrade straight from 5.10 without any disks?
[06:08] <r0bby> is it up there?
[06:08] <Sub> dauoalagio, yes
[06:08] <DBO> up where?
[06:08] <r0bby> nevermind
[06:09] <pericles> gksudo "update manager" (dauoalagio)
[06:09] <dauoalagio> all right cool
[06:09] <Sub> dauoalagio, just "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:09] <gnomefreak> fantasai: you can also try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose vesa drivers that should help im not sure why your not booting up right
[06:09] <dauoalagio> i will do that when its really released
[06:09] <gnomefreak> pericles: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[06:09] <fantasai> gnomefreak: the X server seems to be working fine, so I don't think that's the problem
[06:09] <fantasai> gnomefreak: I was having ridiculous problems with the network, but it seems to be working atm
[06:09] <gnomefreak> fantasai: i dont seeing as you dont have any gui
[06:09] <eyda|mon> DBO, i upped to dapper from breeze, and now my ethernet is not brought up, but I get this msg: http://rafb.net/paste/results/KuPlKD38.html  any idea?
[06:09] <pericles> gnomefreak: don't need -d when dapper is stable
[06:09] <fantasai> gnomefreak: the login screen is GUI
[06:10] <fantasai> gnomefreak: I'm in X right now
[06:10] <gnomefreak> pericles: dapper isnt stable yet ;)
[06:10] <fantasai> gnomefreak: in the Failsafe Terminal mode
[06:10] <gnomefreak> fantasai: ok you get the gdm but it wont load gnome after you log in
[06:10] <fantasai> gnomefreak: yeah
[06:10] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhh
[06:10] <DBO> eyda|mon, kernel log please =)
[06:10] <pericles> gnomefreak: but it will in 3 days!
[06:11] <eyda|mon> DBO, ok, give me a mo :) I had to boot with DSL
[06:11] <gnomefreak> fantasai: is this dapper?
[06:11] <fantasai> gnomefreak: yes
[06:11] <gnomefreak> figures
[06:11] <fantasai> gnomefreak: so I think maybe I should just reinstall from disk
[06:12] <gnomefreak> fantasai: im not sure how to fix that off hand
[06:12] <fantasai> gnomefreak: yeah
[06:12] <gnomefreak> did you try reboot?
[06:12] <fantasai> gnomefreak: multiple times :)
[06:12] <gnomefreak> :(
[06:12] <pericles> Anyone got problems with gksudo "update-manager -d" for Dapper Beta. I did it in one computer, and seems to work perfect!
[06:12] <fantasai> gnomefreak: was getting some other erros too
[06:12] <gnomefreak> fantasai: what errors?
[06:12] <fantasai> gnomefreak: like the network manager flipped the wirless card off and one about once a second
[06:13] <gnomefreak> fantasai: that shouldnt effect gnome booting
[06:13] <eyda|mon> DBO, http://rafb.net/paste/results/cRqwJ013.html
[06:13] <fantasai> gnomefreak: anyway, I keep my /home on a separate partition
[06:13] <gnomefreak> im not sure really iw ish i could help more
[06:13] <fantasai> gnomefreak: so I'll just burn a new disk and reinstall, maybe that'll fix things
[06:13] <fantasai> gnomefreak: thanks for your help anyway :)
[06:13] <DBO> eyda|mon, what network card do you have?
[06:14] <dauoalagio> why am i not able to change the time?
[06:14] <eyda|mon> DBO, well, based on a lsmod, it looks like sis900
[06:14] <dauoalagio> its incorrect
[06:14] <eyda|mon> dbo, can ifconfig tell me?
[06:15] <DBO> eydaimon, no, not in this case, your kernel isnt picking it up...
[06:15] <Drasla> hey does anyone know how I can mount a folder in fstab?
[06:15] <Jowi> dauoalagio: "sudo time-admin"
[06:15] <dauoalagio> thank you
[06:15] <eyda|mon> DBO, well, I booted with another linux now (Damn small linux) .. I'm obviously online here :)
[06:16] <pericles> I need to install a light distro for a computer of 64M of RAM in a public library. It will be for checking the library resources through a browser only. Any suggestion?
[06:16] <DBO> eyda|mon, yeah I know, its just a module issue, for whatever reason the sis900 module isnt being loaded
[06:16] <eyda|mon> DBO, and the kernel log is from my mounted ubuntu install
[06:16] <orso_baloo> italian?
[06:16] <DBO> !it
[06:16] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:16] <eyda|mon> DBO, hm, so maybe now that I know, i can load it manually. hrm
[06:16] <usuario> espaol
[06:16] <DBO> eydaimon, thats the idea
[06:16] <PetrolBomb> ubuntu-es
[06:16] <DBO> !es
[06:16] <Jowi> pericles: slackware
[06:16] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:17] <eyda|mon> DBO, I'll give it a shot. I'll be back to let you know
[06:17] <eyda|mon> thanks
[06:17] <dauoalagio> Jowi it launches up the app which freezes and i have to do the force shut down
[06:17] <DBO> eyda|mon,
[06:17] <DBO> i think its called sis900 but not sure
[06:17] <PetrolBomb> skins for beepplayer?
[06:17] <DBO> (so the command would be sudo modprobe sis900)
[06:17] <eyda|mon> DBO, according to lsmod, there's a module by that name loaded...
[06:17] <Jowi> dauoalagio: strange, i do not have that problem
[06:17] <eyda|mon> although DSL uses 2.4 kernel I beleive
[06:18] <eyda|mon> modprobe, right. cheers
[06:18] <DBO> eyda|mon, yeah, try that =)
[06:18] <usuario> alguien sabe espaoo=?
[06:18] <pericles> Jowi: I suppose that I should not install slackware in default mode...
[06:18] <DBO> !es
[06:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:18] <dauoalagio> jowi, on start up it says it cannot synchronize the time with the website
[06:18] <eyda|mon> ttfn
[06:18] <pericles> usuario: vete a ubuntu-es . Aqu se escribe en ingls.
[06:20] <Jowi> dauoalagio: which country are you in?
[06:20] <stjepan> !gedit
[06:20] <ubotu> stjepan: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:20] <stjepan> anyone knows what's the name of Gedit-like text editor for GNOME, but a bit better for programming?
[06:21] <tdn> I have to reinstall three systems. Should I get the current 5.10 ISO now and then upgrade when dapper drake is released - or should I just wait for the release and install the systems from a fresh dapper iso?
[06:21] <stjepan> it's somewhere on sourceforge
[06:21] <Ra211> gvim?
[06:21] <Jowi> dauoalagio: which country are you in? i can see if there are another timeserver for you to use
[06:21] <eyda|mon> DBO: that worked! :)
[06:21] <stjepan> tdn, I recommend you to do a fresh install of dapper
[06:21] <eyda|mon> DBO: now the question is why it's not loading during boot
[06:21] <tdn> stjepan: gvim or eclipse.
[06:21] <stjepan> Ra211, no, it's more similiar to gedit
[06:21] <DBO> eyda|mon, because its stupid
[06:21] <stjepan> no, not eclipse
[06:21] <DBO> !modules
[06:21] <ubotu> DBO: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:21] <stjepan> it's simple, like gedit or kate
[06:22] <eyda|mon> DBO: probably a good assessment :)
[06:23] <Ra211> stjepan: depending on how you view it, gvim is quite similar to gedit :P --- Bluefish?
[06:23] <stjepan> Ra211, no
[06:23] <stjepan> it's very Gedit-alike
[06:23] <gnomefreak> stjepan: what are you looking for?
[06:23] <eyda|mon> DBO: any suggestions where I could put this as a startup script? /etc/init.d/ ?
[06:23] <stjepan> gnomefreak, for the text editor for gnome
[06:23] <stjepan> it's similiar to gedit
[06:24] <stjepan> but I forgot the name :(
[06:24] <gnomefreak> gnomes text editor is gedit
[06:24] <Jowi> dauoalagio: for example, if you're in france you can use "sudo ntpdate fr.pool.ntp.org"
[06:24] <DBO> eyda|mon, you want to add a rule to udev to have it load that madule
[06:24] <Ra211> stjepan: GNU Emacs? gPHPEdit?
[06:24] <DBO> module*
[06:24] <stjepan> gnomefreak, yeah, and it's quite gedit-like :))
[06:24] <stjepan> Ra211, no :)
[06:24] <stjepan> something like kate, but for gnome
[06:25] <eyda|mon> DBO: allright. I'll chekc that out. I'm not familiar with udev.
[06:25] <DBO> eyda|mon, Im trying to find you a walkthrough...
[06:25] <eyda|mon> DBO: are you sure that's the one? I seem to recall another service which loades modules
[06:26] <DBO> hotplug?
[06:26] <gnomefreak> aee stjepan ?
[06:26] <DBO> that was dropped in dapper
[06:26] <eyda|mon> DBO: no, i remember something in /etc which jsut contains a list of modules to load at boot
[06:26] <gnomefreak> stjepan: nano?
[06:26] <stjepan> no
[06:26] <eyda|mon> DBO: if that was dropped maybe that's why it didn't load :)
[06:26] <stjepan> I know! It's SCRIBES!
[06:26] <DBO> eyda|mon, yes its caused a couple issues =P
[06:27] <mikedep333> while I appreciate the attempt of ubuntu (kubuntu dapper livecd) to be user friendly, automatically connecting to my neighbor's unencrypted wireless network is technically illegal for me
[06:27] <stjepan> scribes rocks :)
[06:27] <eyda|mon> DBO:  found it! "/etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time."
[06:27] <felipe__> When Dapper is realeased will I be able to upgrade from the dapper cd? or I can only reinstall?
[06:28] <gnomefreak> stjepan: its not in the repos atleast not in dappers
[06:28] <king_> I'm on Gnome but I cant tell the difference?
[06:28] <DBO> eyda|mon, hmmm... for some reason I thought that was outdated... but I appear to be mistaked...
[06:28] <king_> Is it under the GUI >?
[06:28] <DBO> mistaken*
[06:28] <gnomefreak> felipe__: gksudo "update-manager -d" or after june 1st leave off the -d
[06:28] <stjepan> gnomefreak, yeah
[06:29] <felipe__> gnomefreak, but that will update from the internet and I have a 128Kb connection.
[06:29] <Ra211> I never heard of it either, must be very new
[06:29] <eyda|mon> DBO: :) going to reboot just to see if it worked
[06:29] <DBO> eydaimon, you go (wo)man
[06:29] <gnomefreak> ive ehard of it just never found it to try it
[06:30] <eyda|mon> DBO: man :/  :P
[06:30] <felipe__> gnomefreak, I'll rather download the iso and upgrade from there...is it possible?
[06:30] <gnomefreak> felipe__: download iso and instal it cant really upgrade with iso that i know of
[06:30] <spikeb> bah
[06:30] <spikeb> that should be put on the list for edgy as well
[06:32] <eydaimon> DBO: much better :)
[06:32] <felipe__> gnomefreak, Ok. Do you know how many megabytes is the upgrade if I do it from the internet?
[06:32] <DBO> eydaimon, i take it that means you're working right again
[06:32] <eydaimon> /etc/modules is definatly the way to go
[06:32] <eydaimon> aye
[06:32] <pericles> Felipe: It's 128kbytes/second? It took me about 3 hours. It's not so long!
[06:32] <CraigRodway> exit
[06:33] <Drasla> does anyone know where I can find other widgets to put on the gnome panels?
[06:33] <pericles> Felipe: 500 mbytes, roughly
[06:33] <king_> skins for beep media player,I  see it supports winamp skins,where do I extract the skin to?
[06:33] <felipe__> pericles, No, its 128kbites per secon and thats 16kbytes :'(
[06:34] <shulman> I'm trying to get twinview to work on my nvidia card using a new instal of dapper drake, but when I try to enable the driver it tells me that xorg.conf has been altered and the script cannot proceed automatically. Is there a usual to fix this?
[06:34] <pericles> Felipe: Then, maybe it's better to backup all your data and make a fresh install
[06:34] <thatfunkymunki> hey guys
[06:35] <felipe__> pericles, I have a separate home partition :o), what I want to avoid is installing all the extra stuff.
[06:35] <thatfunkymunki> having a tad bit of a problem with my wifi, i've got a wmp11v27 and i've tried using the bcm43xx driver and ndiswrapper, bcm43xx for some reason won't get my firmware, and ndiswrapper doesn't work in changing mode from "ad-hoc" to "managed"
[06:36] <Xahur> It seems attempting to install ndiswrapper killed my ubuntu install
[06:36] <pericles> Felipe: I'm afraid I can't help you then. But I never heard of the possibility of upgrading from a Dapper CD, unless you reinstall all.
[06:37] <moodyGit`> is ubuntu supposed to shutdown completely when u click on shutdown under systems logoff ? cuz mine only stops at the brown screen saying womething about 'halt'
[06:37] <moodyGit`> something
[06:37] <Xahur> It's supposed to shut down, yes
[06:37] <mathrick> moodyGit`: that depends on your mainboard, if you have ATX, then yes
[06:37] <felipe__> pericles, Ok, thanks anyway :o)
[06:38] <moodyGit`> i believe i have atx
[06:38] <r0bby> i pet is eft in apt yet
[06:38] <mathrick> also, I need someone familiar with language-selector infrastructure and the way fontconfig is supposed to work in Ubuntu
[06:38] <mathrick> I thought it'd include /usr/share/language-selector/fontconfig/$LANGUAGE, but apparently, that's not the case on my system
[06:38] <pericles> moodyGit: Try to see if you can shutdown typing "sudo shutdown -h now" in a terminal.
[06:39] <mathrick> so, is it a problem with my install, or were I wrong about how it should work?
[06:39] <mathrick> (Dapper, btw)
[06:39] <thatfunkymunki> Does anyone know?
[06:39] <hmpedersen> I'm gonna attempt another install..
[06:39] <moodyGit`> so am i right in assuming that my incomplete dapper shutdown is related to my almost 5 minute wait i always have when logging on ?
[06:39] <Don_Jarmo> hmm btw are there any free software that allows me to record my desktop ?
[06:40] <mathrick> Don_Jarmo: Istanbul and Byzanz
[06:40] <moodyGit`> pericles, ok i will
[06:40] <Don_Jarmo> mathrick thanx
[06:40] <mathrick> Don_Jarmo: there are also some flash tools, but dunno about those
[06:40] <thatfunkymunki> does anyone here have any experience with bcm43xx and firmware etc?
[06:41] <thatfunkymunki> [that could help me out] 
[06:41] <gnomefreak> !broadcom
[06:41] <ubotu> broadcom is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[06:41] <thatfunkymunki> i'm pretty sure i read that
[06:41] <eyka> gggjuhjkhb
[06:41] <mathrick> eyka: no
[06:42] <gnomefreak> eyka: dont do that please
[06:42] <eyka> alguien spaol
[06:42] <gnomefreak> !es
[06:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:43] <Tracubo> hi, who can help me installing pmount 0.9.6 on my breezy? i need it to make my floppy disk work
[06:43] <Tracubo> (if you are italian is even better ;-) )
[06:43] <gnomefreak> !it
[06:43] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:43] <gnomefreak> ^^ for italian
[06:43] <pericles> Tracubo: Try sudo apt-get install pmount
[06:44] <hmpedersen> If only someone could help me get this zonet 1601 card working on ubuntu (without killing the install)
[06:45] <shriphani> need help cant read floppy
[06:45] <tubbie> for some reason I have to install win xp on a free partition. I know after the win xp install, I will not see the option to boot ubuntu? how do I fix this?
[06:45] <shriphani> mounted it courtesy the folks here
[06:45] <shriphani> tubbie load the grub boot loader
[06:45] <shriphani> or the lilo
[06:45] <HymnToLife> !tell tubbie about grub
[06:45] <tubbie> yea, but how?
[06:45] <tubbie> via the install disc?
[06:45] <shriphani> hmmm
[06:45] <shriphani> maybe
[06:46] <Tracubo^> me again here
[06:46] <ReMink> Hello all !
[06:46] <Tracubo^> the command apt-get install pmount doesent work
[06:47] <shriphani> excuse me is Sub here
[06:47] <Jowi> !info pmount
[06:47] <ReMink> o_O un HymnToLife :)
[06:47] <ubotu> pmount: (mount removable devices as normal user), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.5-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 608 kB
[06:47] <corey> sudo apt-get install pmount
[06:47] <Jowi> Tracubo^: try "sudo apt-get install pmount"
[06:47] <shriphani> anyone here ????
[06:47] <nixuser> anyone used easyubuntu on dapper in here?
[06:47] <shriphani> Jowi, i need help
[06:47] <nixuser> not getting anything installed on it
[06:48] <shriphani> i created a mount point for my USB ext. drive in ubuntu
[06:48] <ohno> How to install winamp skins for BMP player?
[06:48] <Tracubo^> i already have pmount 0.9.5, but it doesn't work with my floppy, i need 0.9.6, the errore messages is: "checking for HAL... configure: error: Package requirements (hal >= 0.5.2 hal-storage >= 0.5.2) were not met.
[06:48] <Tracubo^> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[06:48] <Tracubo^> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[06:48] <Tracubo^> Alternatively you may set the HAL_CFLAGS and HAL_LIBS environment variables
[06:48] <Tracubo^> to avoid the need to call pkg-config.  See the pkg-config man page for
[06:48] <Tracubo^> more details.
[06:49] <Tracubo^> "
[06:49] <SurfnKid> !good morning
[06:49] <ubotu> SurfnKid: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:49] <Jowi> shriphani: ask a specific question so someone can help. just stating "i need help" just doesn't cut it :)
[06:49] <shriphani> i asked
[06:49] <amee2k> why does this installer run a filesystem check on my swap space that takes ages to complete?!
[06:49] <shriphani> i created a mount point for my USb floppy
[06:49] <shriphani> it is now detected but it cant detect or open the floppies
[06:49] <shriphani> nor can it format them
[06:50] <nutterpc> <--- now running Dapper Drake :)
[06:50] <Jowi> shriphani: how do you mount the floppies?
[06:50] <shriphani> i created a mount point for my drive
[06:50] <hmpedersen> It's very strange..
[06:50] <shriphani> but not the floppies
[06:51] <shriphani> i need help for that
[06:51] <nutterpc> I'll give my vote on the topic of Dapper, they nailed it on the head
[06:51] <hmpedersen> The drivers for my wlan should be in breezy.. But they arent..
[06:51] <Jowi> shriphani: you only need a mountpoint for the drive. it works like if you were using a normal cd-rom. you put in a CD in the drive, then mount the drive
[06:51] <shriphani> but it doesnt work
[06:52] <shriphani> i mean it wont open the floppies
[06:52] <shriphani> and i cant format them as well
[06:52] <Jowi> shriphani: how do you mount your drive and what error do you get?
[06:52] <shriphani> no errors
[06:52] <thatfunkymunki> bah
[06:52] <thatfunkymunki> when i'm installing ndiswrapper
[06:52] <shriphani> it mounted successfully
[06:52] <distanceisdeath> why am i getting errors when i try to install kde?
[06:52] <shriphani> went and made an icon
[06:52] <thatfunkymunki> i get a FATAL:inserting ndiswrapper........Invalid Argument
[06:53] <HymnToLife> !tell ReMink about fr
[06:53] <gambit> whats command for deleting directories
[06:53] <Jowi> shriphani: if you type "mount" is the floppydrive listed?
[06:53] <shriphani> it is listed without that
[06:54] <ReMink> HymnToLife, He !
[06:54] <shriphani> i can see the icon there
[06:54] <Jowi> that was not what i asked
[06:54] <shriphani> ok
[06:54] <corey> anyone got several mniutes to try and help me figure out why my wireless isnt working now that i upgraded to dapper?
[06:54] <shriphani> /dev/sdb on /media/floppy type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[06:54] <Firebird8> anyone famliliar with blootbot here?
[06:55] <shriphani> /dev/sda1 on /media/SHRIPHANI type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[06:55] <shriphani> are there multiple mount points
[06:55] <Jowi> i would assume that sda1 is your usb drive
[06:55] <shriphani> yeh
[06:55] <gnomefreak> Firebird8: this is not a bot support channel please see either #debian-bots or #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:56] <thatfunkymunki> nobody?
[06:56] <hmpedersen> I'm gonna start a new breezy install
[06:56] <Jowi> shriphani: do you have a mountpoint for it in /media?
[06:56] <Firebird8> gnomefreak, ok thx
[06:56] <PaK> xserver-xorg_7.0.0ubuntu45 have broken ati fglrx drivers?!?!?!?!
[06:56] <guptan> can somebody help me with installing belkin f5d7050 USB wifi adapter in Drapper
[06:56] <shriphani> i dont think so Jowi
[06:56] <widemos> somebody managed to run sadms (http://sadms.sourceforge.net) on dapper?
[06:57] <gnomefreak> widemos: ask in #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[06:57] <widemos> thanks
[06:57] <Jowi> shriphani: "sudo mkdir /media/usbfloppy" then "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/usbfloppy"
[06:58] <roche> People the package compiz is inside ubuntu repositories
[06:58] <shriphani> i created a mount point in /mnt
[06:58] <gambit> is command to remove a dir   sudo rm -d ?
[06:58] <Jowi> shriphani: it should not matter where it is located. try the one in /mnt if you wish
[06:58] <shriphani> i did that then
[06:59] <shriphani> there is a mount point in /mnt
[07:00] <Jowi> shriphani: is the seeklight on the floppydrive doing anything when you enter "sudo -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/mymountpoint"?
[07:00] <shriphani> just a sec
[07:00] <Tracubo^> i've solved
[07:00] <coreyo> my package, lvm2 is returning an error code in the post-install script.  No other information is available, and dpkg -i force-all does not solve the problem.  In the meantime, I can't do anything with apt
[07:00] <coreyo> what are my options?
[07:00] <shriphani> nothing
[07:01] <Tracubo^> hei guys, take a look at this link http://www.ubuntux.org/node/201 (for floppy problem solving)
[07:01] <Tracubo^> shriphani maybe it can be useful also for you
[07:01] <shriphani> thanks
[07:02] <corey> anyone got several mniutes to try and help me figure out why my wireless isnt working now that i upgraded to dapper?
[07:02] <grogoreo> hi
[07:02] <grogoreo> firstly is there an aplet for vino that says when someone is connected to the computer? Also is there an easier or better way to shut down a clients connection to the computer other than killing vino?
[07:02] <pelele> hi i am new in linux. Can anyone explain me how to install the aplications?. I couldnt yet. Is stupid but i cant
[07:02] <Dawei> !pcmcia
[07:02] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dawei
[07:02] <gnomefreak> pelele: what app are you trying to install?
[07:03] <extern> can anyone help me configure my 5.1 speakers?
[07:03] <corey> pelele: system>administration>synaptic
[07:03] <PaK> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[07:03] <PaK>   Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)
[07:03] <PaK>   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext) <-- what doas this mean ? :/
[07:03] <myteam1> hellooo
[07:03] <Jowi> pelele: the easiest way is to launch synaptic package manager (it is in the admin menu) right click on the app you want and choose install, click apply.
[07:03] <gnomefreak> paxdont paste in here please use pastebin
[07:04] <extern> I can't find any information on 5.1 speakers in the wiki :/
[07:04] <pelele> I use Sinaptic but, isnt all aplicattions that i want
[07:04] <gnomefreak> pelele: what app do you want to install?
[07:05] <pelele> For example nerolinux
[07:05] <gnomefreak> pelele: you have to install that manully
[07:05] <extern> please someone help me configure 5.1 speakers :/
[07:05] <gnomefreak> pelele: if you read their site the instructions are on there (think its a deb) so run sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[07:06] <gnomefreak> extern: stop repeating it please if someone knows they will answer you
[07:07] <pelele> i followed all the indications, but allways said me that no found directories
[07:07] <pelele> I descarged in my desktop
[07:07] <Jowi> extern: i found this. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SurroundSound
[07:08] <shriphani>  pmount: Depends: libdbus-1-2 (>= 0.60) but it is not going to be installed
[07:08] <Sub> !ssh
[07:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[07:08] <shriphani> E: Broken packages
[07:08] <myteam1> hi aidamina
[07:08] <GaiaX11> Every time that i try to access my mail inbox kopete lauchs konqueror, but i'd like to change the kopete default browser to another one. How can i do that?
[07:08] <gnomefreak> pelele: if the deb is saved to your desktop do this cd Desktop than after you hit enter type sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[07:09] <gnomefreak> shriphani: sudo apt-get -f install      no package name just type it as i did
[07:09] <coreyo> is there a way to clear apt's list of pending packages to install so that it stops trying to install lvm2 for now?
[07:09] <pelele> thanks i try, sorry for my spanglish
[07:10] <gnomefreak> coreyo: you can pin it but other than that im not sure
[07:10] <myteam1> hello pelele
[07:10] <pelele> hello
[07:10] <juanjoma> quien me recives
[07:10] <coreyo> gnomefreak, what do you mean by "pin it" ?
[07:10] <pelele> s
[07:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell coreyo about pinning
[07:11] <myteam1> i'm new in ubuntu
[07:11] <nox-Hand> After my upgrade to Dapper I have no sound?
[07:11] <gnomefreak> coreyo: read the link ubotu sent you
[07:11] <pelele> me too
[07:11] <juanjoma> quiero en espaol
[07:11] <coreyo> gnomefreak, k, thanks
[07:11] <myteam1> before this what u use
[07:11] <nox-Hand> pelele, Same as me?
[07:11] <gnomefreak> yw
[07:11] <gnomefreak> juanjoma: /j #ubuntu-es for spanish please
[07:11] <juanjoma> soy un buen sevillista
[07:12] <pelele> soy barcelonista
[07:12] <myteam1> pelele.. where r u from?
[07:12] <raf60> hola buenas tardes a todos
[07:12] <pelele> barcelona Espaa
[07:12] <juanjoma> que tal
[07:12] <gnomefreak> english in this channel only\
[07:12] <raf60> hola
[07:13] <myteam1> i',from malasyai
[07:13] <craigc> hi all, hopefully a quick one.  Where do i find where to change logout/standby times?
[07:13] <extern> Jowi, that didn't fix it
[07:13] <xahur> Allright.. Is there a way to install lilo instead of grub?
[07:13] <myteam1> i'm from malaysia..but i like barcelona soccer
[07:13] <juanjoma> no quiero beticos
[07:13] <pelele> Alguien sabe de algun chat en espaol, para ubunteros
[07:13] <xahur> (during ubuntu install)
[07:13] <coreyo> gnomefreak, that doesn't really help me.  I tried to reinstall ubuntu-base and it depends on lvm2.  Now, until lvm2 is correctly installed, or cleared form whatever queue tells apt that it wasn't configured properly, apt is useless
[07:13] <raf60> no tengo ni idea
[07:14] <raf60> esperaba que alguien me dijera lo q tu pregutas
[07:14] <DBO> !es
[07:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:14] <pouet> I have done a libpam_mount patch, but the author doesn't seem to react on source forge. I want to know if it's possible to have them included in ubuntu patches ?
[07:14] <raf60> gracias
[07:15] <myteam1> pelele...teach me spain language
[07:15] <firefly> does anyone know how to install libcurl for php5 on ubuntu?
[07:15] <juanjoma> ay algun sevilliesta
[07:15] <pelele> Barcelona is the best soccer club in the world, we, oeee
[07:15] <nox-Hand> Anyone?
[07:15] <myteam1> yesss...barcelona
[07:15] <firefly> i tried installing php5-curl and restarting apache2 but that didnt do it
[07:15] <Paradosso> firefox 1.5.0.3 keeps giving me segmentation fault in dapper
[07:15] <Paradosso> anybody experienced the same?
[07:15] <thatfunkymunki> aah sory wrng ctrl
[07:16] <thatfunkymunki> bah guys i'm havin' a problem with ndiswrapper. when i modprobe it, it give me "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-396/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument"
[07:16] <pelele> ok
[07:16] <pelele> have you skype
[07:16] <xahur> thatfunkymunki, i'd love to help you, but perhaps you should go to #ndiswrapper
[07:16] <myteam1> no.. idon't
[07:17] <thatfunkymunki> xahur: i'm convinced this is anubuntu problem but i'll try :)
[07:17] <myteam1> pelele...s u student or working
[07:17] <pelele> if you can, you should install
[07:17] <xahur> hmm
[07:17] <pelele> y studing
[07:17] <exhale> ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso is this the latest dapper?
[07:18] <pelele> but i am 31 years old
[07:18] <myteam1> your age
[07:18] <gnomefreak> exhale: yes
[07:18] <exhale> ok
[07:18] <myteam1> oo...same like me
[07:18] <gnomefreak> myteam1: and pelele take the general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:18] <exhale> heh, gnomefreak you dont happen to read digg?
[07:18] <hmpedersen> i forgot to disconnect before putting the computer tohibernation it seems..
[07:18] <gnomefreak> exhale: no i have no reason to
[07:18] <pelele> sorry
[07:18] <exhale> oh okay, another gnomefreak does then
[07:18] <exhale> :P
[07:18] <craigc> my system keeps rebooting and this is left in the log. "gdm_slave_xioerror: Fatal X error - restarting :0" Anyone know why this is and how to fix it? Thanks in advance
[07:19] <craigc> i have tried to re-install GDM with no joy
[07:20] <pelele> i want record dvdrw with k3b but ican, i have ubuntu breezy 5.1
[07:20] <myteam1> craigc..try to reinstall base system..
[07:21] <Jowi> craigc: did you change your display device from monitor to TV by any chance?
[07:21] <craigc> ok, do you mean fresh from the CD and a format or can i so it by some otherway?
[07:21] <craigc> no i havent touched the display
[07:21] <nox-Hand> Anyone at all? -_-
[07:21] <craigc> it is as it was
[07:22] <Jowi> craigc: i would suggest "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and chose the defaults in there. then try a reboot (or restart gdm)
[07:22] <myteam1> craigc,,maybe your system file corrupted
[07:22] <craigc> ok thx jowi - ill report back in a bit :)
[07:23] <craigc> yeah i dont think its good but ubuntu is worth saving :)
[07:23] <corey> anyone got several mniutes to try and help me figure out why my wireless isnt working now that i upgraded to dapper?
[07:23] <Jowi> corey: dapper is in #ubuntu+1 for a few more days :)
[07:23] <corey> oh
[07:24] <hmpedersen> Yeah btw.. When does dapper cd's start shippin?
[07:24] <craigc> Jowi: "xserver-org is not installed"
[07:24] <gnomefreak> hmpedersen: after june 1st
[07:24] <hmpedersen> ahh
[07:24] <Jowi> craigc: "xserver-xorg"
[07:24] <hmpedersen> site only said "early june" ;)
[07:25] <Jowi> craigc: you forgot the X
[07:25] <gnomefreak> hmpedersen: sometime after the release there is no (how long after) but you can order them now
[07:25] <hmpedersen> ahh.. i'll do that, then
[07:26] <craigc> ok got it now thanks jowi - a few too many beers last night and a headache this morning :s
[07:26] <hmpedersen> my problem right now though is that I have no more breezy discs.. Have to make copies for friends who show up..
[07:26] <thatfunkymunki> do you guys know where i can get a .config file for my kernel (dapper)
[07:26] <Jowi> craigc: wonderful solution to that ( offtopic warning message): before bed, have a youghurt.
[07:27] <livevil> just a stupid question: It's the first time I use Linux ubuntu, where can I create a Folder in Which put my documents or media file? There is a preferenced place or aprtition?
[07:27] <gnomefreak> livevil: home dir
[07:27] <thatfunkymunki> livevil: generally you put it in /home/your_user_name
[07:27] <craigc> Jowi: lol thx i will give it a go: ok how much memory allocation to my video card?
[07:27] <Jowi> craigc: just press enter (leave it blank)
[07:27] <craigc> ok
[07:28] <s00ty> HillTop, after installation of wine through apt-get, running winecfg gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14834
[07:28] <s00ty> Can you help please?
[07:28] <gnomefreak> !wine
[07:28] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux. Get the latest .deb from http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/ or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[07:28] <s00ty> Not just Hilltop, that was a typo.
[07:28] <nox-Hand> Anyone that might help me with my no sound problem after dapper upgrade now?
[07:29] <hmpedersen> Only possible to request 10 discs at a time now?
[07:29] <s00ty> gnomefreak, I install wine, running winecfg gives me that error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14834
[07:30] <hmpedersen> Hey s00ty.. got the wlan working?
[07:31] <s00ty> hmpedersen, nope. I left it till another time.
[07:31] <craigc> rebooting brb
[07:31] <s00ty> hmpedersen,  How about you?
[07:31] <firedrops> can someone help me out with XGL? everything is up'n'running though I can't use the shortcut keys...and there are also some other minor issues...
[07:31] <hmpedersen> s00ty, I'm busy reinstalling.. ndiswrapper left my install in a non-bootable state..
[07:31] <distanceisdeath> i installed kde and updated it, but it doesnt show when i chose sessions
[07:33] <distanceisdeath> what do i do for kde to show up?
[07:33] <s00ty> hmpedersen, last time when I experimented with fc3, fc4, and mepis on my laptop with ndiswrapper, I was on it through 3 meals at least.
[07:33] <r0xoR> distanceisdeath, show up where?
[07:33] <r0xoR> distanceisdeath, do you mean install KDE or use KDE or both?
[07:33] <distanceisdeath> at the log on screen to pick sessions
[07:33] <distanceisdeath> i want to use both
[07:33] <r0xoR> lol... use both
[07:33] <r0xoR> both what
[07:33] <distanceisdeath> gnome and kde
[07:33] <distanceisdeath> like chose between
[07:33] <r0xoR> ahh
[07:33] <r0xoR> yes i understand
[07:34] <r0xoR> distanceisdeath, you can install kde with synaptic
[07:34] <GaiaX11> How do i enable lock screen in ubuntu (gnome)?
[07:34] <r0xoR> distanceisdeath, that's all you should have to do, it should automagically appear in the selection menu
[07:34] <distanceisdeath> okay
[07:34] <r0xoR> GaiaX11, i think that's a screensaver thing?
[07:34] <distanceisdeath> lemme try that
[07:34] <distanceisdeath> i did that the sudo way
[07:34] <hmpedersen> What i don't understand is.. It doesn't just show my wlan card as unknown.. it does the same with my sb live and about everything else
[07:34] <r0xoR> distanceisdeath, there's a specific package, hold on
[07:34] <distanceisdeath> what do i search for at synaptic
[07:34] <distanceisdeath> oh okay
[07:34] <r0xoR> hmpedersen, laptop or desktop
[07:35] <gnomefreak> kubuntu-desktop
[07:35] <hmpedersen> r0xor desktop
[07:35] <gnomefreak> distanceisdeath: ^^^
[07:35] <distanceisdeath> okay
[07:35] <distanceisdeath> ill try that
[07:35] <craigc> jowi: thanks for the help. i have set my xserver settings back to default i will endevour to ensure i will report back and see how it went to you.  fingers crossed no more re-boots.  Thanks again
[07:35] <gnomefreak> distanceisdeath: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop for kde
[07:35] <r0xoR> yup
[07:35] <GaiaX11> r0xoR,  know, but when i used Breezy i had an icon for that and now (dapper) it has desappeared!
[07:35] <r0xoR> Discipulus, kubuntu-desktop is what you want
[07:35] <distanceisdeath> i did that one gnome
[07:35] <distanceisdeath> i did the sudo
[07:35] <distanceisdeath> and it installed
[07:36] <gnomefreak> distanceisdeath: log out go to sessions on the login screen and choose kde or gnome whatever you want to boot into
[07:37] <distanceisdeath> yeah kde wasnt there
[07:37] <Cassoilen> How do i make a boot script for setting the net speed to 10 mbps and duplex full with mii-diag? I've tried adding the line mii-diag -F 10baseT-FD eth0 to /etc/network/interfaces, and it does change the internal settings, but I can only get connection to the internet when i do it manually.
[07:37] <distanceisdeath> it said "gnome, gnome something, failsafe"
[07:37] <Bicchi> where do i file bugs for Dapper ?
[07:38] <twobitsprite> what package would I need if configure is complaining about libjpeg?
[07:38] <thatfunkymunki> !broadcom
[07:38] <ubotu> [broadcom]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[07:38] <thatfunkymunki> thanks ubotu
[07:39] <distanceisdeath> any ideas gnomefreak?
[07:39] <gnomefreak> distanceisdeath: for what?
[07:39] <distanceisdeath> its not there in the sessions
[07:39] <livevil> thank
[07:39] <gnomefreak> distanceisdeath: if you installed kubuntu-desktop it will be there
[07:40] <distanceisdeath> ill try it again
[07:40] <distanceisdeath> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:40] <distanceisdeath> ?
[07:40] <twobitsprite> distanceisdeath, yes
[07:41] <distanceisdeath> yeah i did something wrong
[07:41] <distanceisdeath> its going now
[07:41] <cjones> how do your run a java app thats a .jar file ?
[07:42] <twobitsprite> so... apt-cache doesn't show anything for "libjpeg" except for libjpeg62 and libjpeg-mmx-dev
[07:42] <trevor> could someone help me with setting up dual monitors (ATI All-In-Wonder card) on Ubuntu 6.06?
[07:42] <RobNyc> !ati
[07:42] <ubotu> from memory, ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:43] <mnk> hello all - i am running the beta version of ubuntu - can someone pls tell me how to upgrade to the actual 6.06 version when it comes out pls?
[07:43] <don> no error
[07:44] <s00ty> Can you help me please?  I install wine, running winecfg gives me errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14834
[07:44] <trevor> RobNyc, thanks for the ATI info...i'll give it a shot
[07:45] <cjones> will some one take a look at this and see of it can run into ubuntu  http://pastebin.com/745162
[07:45] <hmpedersen> Hmm.. This is weird.. lsmod | grep 2.00 shoulda shown me the ra0..
[07:45] <ShastaMaroon> Is it possible to install kde in ubuntu, or do I specifically need to use kubuntu for that?
[07:45] <hmpedersen> it outputs pci_hotplug          28008   1  shpchp
[07:45] <Jimmey__> ShastaMaroon, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:45] <regenkind> hi does anybody know how to reset the akregator component? Do i just delete the akregator dir in my home dir?
[07:45] <ShastaMaroon> Jimmey__ thank you
[07:46] <Jimmey__> ShastaMaroon, you're welcome
[07:46] <mnk> hello all - i am running the beta version of ubuntu - can someone pls tell me how to upgrade to the actual 6.06 version when it comes out pls?
[07:46] <riddlebox> hello, what can I use to edit a pdf file?
[07:46] <wubrgamer> shastamaroon: just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:46] <s00ty> Jimmey__,  do you know how I can get winecfg running?
[07:46] <drew> woot ubuntu rox
[07:46] <cjones> mnk you will see it in updat manager when it comes out
[07:46] <Jimmey__> s00ty, wait..
[07:46] <mnk> oh ok
[07:46] <drew> I updated it removed xchat but I was able to reinstall in less than 5 min
[07:47] <mnk> so even though i'm up to date in the beta version i will still see it?
[07:47] <wubrgamer> shastamaroon: kubuntu-desktop is kubuntu's default install, just remove any programs or features you don't want, you'll also have the option of using KDM or GDM
[07:47] <drew> wht is ubuntu's latest version
[07:47] <cjones> mnk yeah you will also get the buf fixes as they are released
[07:47] <wubrgamer> 6.06
[07:47] <wubrgamer> well
[07:47] <drew> k cool
[07:47] <drew> than Im up to date
[07:47] <rootvzla> buenas
[07:47] <wubrgamer> 5.10 is official 6.06 is only RC right now
[07:47] <mnk> cjones, what is a buf fix?
[07:47] <ShastaMaroon> wubrgamer so more or less the only difference between ubuntu and kubunta is the default desktop?
[07:47] <Jimmey__> s00ty, looks like a bug, I'm not to clued up with Wine
[07:48] <cjones> mnk sorry bug fix lol
[07:48] <s00ty> Jimmey__, where can I get help on wine and ubuntu?
[07:48] <Jimmey__> ShastaMaroon, and the programs that come with it
[07:48] <wubrgamer> shastamaroon, i'm honestly not sure, i personally hate kde's default desktop
[07:48] <drew> use apt-get
[07:48] <Jimmey__> s00ty, try #winehq
[07:48] <mnk> cjones - i got a load of updates today and yesterday; will i still have more packages to update on june 1st?
[07:48] <wubrgamer> jimmy__i
[07:48] <Jimmey__> wubrgamer, I have the same problem with Dapper, it wants to install packages that I already have - I just ignore it
[07:49] <wubrgamer> what ?
[07:49] <drew> what is the package name for a gba emu
[07:49] <mnk> I LOVE UBUNTU
[07:49] <wubrgamer> jimmey__ what ?
[07:49] <tobias_> hello
[07:49] <drew> or gbc emu
[07:49] <mnk> SORRY - i had to blast that out :D
[07:49] <mnk> a wee bit excited :)
[07:49] <wubrgamer> emulators......are like.........illegal.........
[07:49] <wubrgamer> *glares*
[07:49] <drew> no they arent
[07:49] <eric> emulators suck =/
[07:49] <eric> slow emulation time
[07:49] <drew> if the games arent available commericaly
[07:50] <drew> than the roms are legal
[07:50] <eric> well, not all emulators
[07:50] <drew> or if u own it its legal
[07:50] <eric> just non-native emulators
[07:50] <wubrgamer> not necessarily
[07:50] <mnk> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/Release.gpg: Bad header line [IP: 85.133.25.8 80] 
[07:50] <s00ty> ok
[07:50] <mnk> what does that mean?
[07:50] <wubrgamer> w/e
[07:50] <wubrgamer> forget it
[07:50] <mnk> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[07:50] <mnk> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists
[07:50] <mnk> archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
[07:50] <mnk> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_restricted_binary-i386_Packages)
[07:50] <mnk> odd
[07:50] <eric> Is it possible to change your usplash screen?
[07:50] <Jimmey__> !paste
[07:50] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[07:51] <mnk> oh oops - sorry :$
[07:51] <Seantater> is it any safer to rootpw sudo and make a root passwd than the default (neither of the above?)
[07:51] <Jimmey__> Seantater, the default's sudo, and that works fine..
[07:51] <eric> i agree
[07:51] <eric> if you need root over and over again, just sudo su
[07:51] <eric> and then logout when done
[07:52] <Seantater> no, that's not what I mean
[07:52] <eric> then im ignorant =/
[07:52] <pelele> hi
[07:52] <Seantater> what I mean is that if I only allow sudo to take root's password, and I give root a password also, will that keep wwwdata and other users away from root?
[07:53] <pelele> hi
[07:53] <cjones> mnk yeah
[07:53] <tokeman> howdee
[07:53] <Jimmey__> Seantater, if you're looking to secure apache...
[07:53] <pelele> i cant record DVD RW in K3B
[07:53] <Jimmey__> Make a new user called apache, and limit it's privileges - Then set apache to run as that user
[07:53] <Jimmey__> pelele, what's the error?
[07:53] <tokeman> I made it so mozzila player will work NSV video so in a sence you can go to shoutcast TV
[07:54] <spacey> Jimmey__:  apache runs under its own user by default
[07:54] <Jimmey__> spacey, I know
[07:54] <trevor> I set up the ATI drivers, and both monitors work...but they are displaying the same thing. how do i change that?
[07:55] <cjones> mnk do you know how to use pastebin
[07:56] <alferez> how do newbies get help on this channel
[07:56] <highvoltage> alferez: they ask questions, very nicely.
[07:57] <[dylan] > help! :D =) i've messed my /etc/X11/xorg.conf (without a backup copy, yes shame on me) how can i recreate the "Original" one ubuntu installer create? Thanks
[07:57] <pelele> Jimmey: the message is that mkisofs no acab limpiamente
[07:58] <highvoltage> [dylan] : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:58] <alferez> ok, I would like to ask how to change the resolution on my monitor to 1440x900 if i have no option for it.
[07:58] <pelele> jimmey: A write error ocurred
[07:59] <[dylan] > thanks alferez!!!!! Great :D
[07:59] <hmpedersen> great.. I can't access my ubuntu shared folders from windows..
[08:00] <[dylan] > alferez: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add that resolution, reboot x
[08:00] <Jimmey__> pelele, are you Spanish?
[08:00] <Jimmey__> !es
[08:00] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:00] <[dylan] > thanks highvoltage really!
[08:01] <alferez> thank you very much.
[08:01] <[dylan] > u welcome
[08:01] <ramvi> How do I resize a ntfs partition when I'm in ubuntu?
[08:02] <pelele> yes
[08:02] <[dylan] > ramvi: install gparted
[08:02] <pelele> sorry for the spanish words
[08:02] <Jimmey__> ramvi, using Gparted
[08:02] <ramvi> thanks
[08:03] <PetrolBomb> I just deleted the bottom panel by mistake,how do I get it back???
[08:03] <pelele> hi
[08:03] <Jimmey__> PetrolBomb, right click on the panel at the top, and click "Add Panel", move it to where you want, and start adding things
[08:03] <s00ty> Hello, I get errors on my video card. One glxinfo | grep direct, it gives output of:
[08:03] <pelele> i have a proble with K3B
[08:03] <s00ty> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[08:03] <[dylan] > PetrolBomb: Settings -> Preferences -> somewhere
[08:03] <s00ty> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:03] <Jimmey__> pelele, are you Spanish?
[08:04] <pelele> yes
[08:04] <PetrolBomb> AHhhh
[08:04] <Jimmey__> Have you tried #ubuntu-es?
[08:04] <pelele> but the spanish chat is a...
[08:04] <Jimmey__> Not helpful?
[08:04] <Jimmey__> XoD
[08:04] <pelele> yes
[08:04] <pelele> because i am new
[08:05] <pelele> and i dont know
[08:05] <Jimmey__> pelele, what's the error you're getting, again?
[08:05] <pelele> nothing
[08:05] <cjones> does any one know of a way to do a net send type command in term ?
[08:05] <pelele> mkisofs
[08:05] <Jimmey__> !moo
[08:05] <ubotu> moo is, like, moo
[08:05] <Jimmey__> cjones, netcat, I think
[08:05] <Dry-ice> moo: os: Microsoft Windows XP Professional - Service Pack 2 (5.1.2600) uptime: 8hrs 17mins 40secs cpu: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ at 2045MHz (100% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 256MB res: 1280x1024 32bit 85Hz ram: 1534/1535.48MB (99.92%) [||||||||||]  hdd: C:\ 31.77GB/48.83GB Free D:\ 22.84GB/54.57GB Free Z:\ 3.74GB/14.48GB Free net: WAN [PPP_SLIP]  Interface - 0.9216MB/s 685.08MB In, 10.53MB Out
[08:06] <pelele> mkisosf dont finish clean
[08:06] <cjones> jimmey__ thanks dude
[08:06] <pelele> a write error ocurred
[08:06] <Jimmey__> pelele, maybe try writing at a slower speed?
[08:07] <Jimmey__> pelele, what are you trying to write to the disk?
[08:07] <Jimmey__> A .iso image fle/
[08:07] <[dylan] > highvoltage: is there a way to have the original automatically created one, back? 'cause i can't reconfigure my monitor properly
[08:07] <Jimmey__> *file?
[08:07] <pelele> somethings usings tao writing  mode solves this issue
[08:07] <[dylan] > it keeps hanging
[08:07] <PetrolBomb> Thank you for the help,add panel is k00l
[08:07] <pelele> avi
[08:07] <PetrolBomb> Added a CPU monitor and other stuff now
[08:07] <Jimmey__> [dylan] , paste the output of "ls /etc/X11/"
[08:07] <pelele> ppt
[08:08] <[dylan] > Jimmey__: no backup copies unlucky
[08:08] <[dylan] > (shame on me again)
[08:08] <gambit> im trying install nwn but when i tar -xzf ~/nwclientgold.tar.gz   it says  No such file or directory, what should i do
[08:08] <Jimmey__> [dylan] , although you might not have made one, there might be one already there - Check for xorg.conf~
[08:08] <Jimmey__> gambit, are you sure it's not in the respositories?
[08:08] <cjones> jimmey__ do you know if the -p or -n should come firsr ?
[08:08] <[dylan] > Jimmi: already checked.. no backups there
[08:09] <Jimmey__> cjones, I don't, sorry...I know something that does! "man netcat"
[08:09] <Jimmey__> XoD
[08:09] <Jimmey__> [dylan] , did you restart X after reconfiguring?
[08:09] <gambit> jimmey, u mean look for gunzip?
[08:10] <Jimmey__> gunzip..
[08:10] <[dylan] > Jimmey__: yes.. HANGS the whole laptop 'cause misconfigured monitor i guess. 'cause it hanged just the same, when i did "autodetect monitor"
[08:10] <Jimmey__> [dylan] , that sucks...Try messing around - Don't let it autodetect
[08:11] <allen> hello
[08:11] <r0xoR> has anyone had a straight up system hang? my system has been just hanging, cursor stops responding even
[08:11] <Jimmey__> gambit, why do you want to install gunzip?
[08:11] <r0xoR> i turned on DMA with hdparm yesterday but it's been doing this before that
[08:11] <allen> does ubuntu use aptget or yum?
[08:11] <r0xoR> apt
[08:11] <Jimmey__> allen, apt-get
[08:11] <r0xoR> yum sucks :)
[08:11] <allen> is xmmx available for ubuntu?
[08:11] <gambit> cause its a .gz file... im a noob
[08:12] <allen> xmms
[08:12] <cjones> jimmey__ thanks
[08:12] <Flannel> allen: yes
[08:12] <Jimmey__> gambit, you don't need to install any software. Just right click on the .gz file, then select the appropriate extraction option
[08:12] <allen> ok first time with ubuntu  been using FC4
[08:12] <allen> thanks
[08:12] <SurfnKid> hey guys i have a question about wlan0 and my router, it seems everytime im on XP, my router gets so overwhelmed of data that it stops working. its not the case with ubuntu, which im happy about
[08:12] <SurfnKid> any ideas why this
[08:12] <pelele> Jimmey who i cant teach the message
[08:12] <drumline_> Anyone having trouble with Kontact not displaying the identity switcher when composing new mail?
[08:13] <[dylan] > Jimmey__: how the installer create xorg.conf ?
[08:13] <Jimmey__> SurfnKid, try #windows
[08:13] <allen> it seems my repositroys are not set up
[08:13] <Jimmey__> [dylan] , It just writes all the options to it as it's going along, I think..
[08:14] <Jimmey__> allen, that's easily done with Synaptic Package Manager,
[08:14] <SurfnKid> thanx
[08:14] <Jimmey__> Follow the link I showed you
[08:14] <[dylan] > Jimmey__: ok.. let's run the installation cd, mount my linux partition and copy that xorg.conf in there then
[08:14] <[dylan] > let's try
[08:15] <Jimmey__> [dylan] , a better idea would be the liveCD
[08:15] <gambit> jimmey, i really wanted to use terminal, but ty
[08:15] <Jimmey__> gambit, wait..
[08:15] <gambit> ok
[08:15] <Jimmey__> gambit, "man gunzip"
[08:15] <[dylan] > Jimmey__: i've dapper liveccd and installer
[08:15] <Jimmey__> Try that
[08:15] <Jimmey__> [dylan] , that makes sense, then.
[08:16] <drumline_> Anyone having trouble with Kontact not displaying the identity switcher when composing new mail?
[08:16] <Linuturk> is Ubuntu DD stable enough to run a server at this time?
[08:16] <Linuturk> I'm floating between Ubuntu and Debian stable
[08:16] <Hso> howdy ;P does anyone know if there are any password revealing apps for linux?
[08:16] <Jimmey__> Linuturk, that would depend on what you'd use the server for, but I'd say so
[08:17] <Jimmey__> Hso, john
[08:17] <Hso> o.O
[08:17] <Sub> Linuturk, for a server, Debian is better IMO
[08:17] <Hso> that's for linux?
[08:17] <Jimmey__> Hso, sudo apt-get install john
[08:17] <SurfnKid> hey guys how can i look for a file in the entire volume?
[08:17] <Hso> k
[08:17] <Sub> jus because it's more bare, so you can configure it to spec.
[08:17] <rootvzla> good people of the channel of ubuntu a question me podrian to say which was the channel of ubuntu in Spanish
[08:17] <Jimmey__> SurfnKid, "locate filename"
[08:17] <Linuturk> a LAMP server, for a web based POS system
[08:17] <Jimmey__> !es
[08:17] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:17] <perli> hey yo
[08:17] <Linuturk> needs to be stable and reliable
[08:17] <SurfnKid> what if i its just a partial name do i use * ?
[08:17] <highvoltage> [dylan] : i'm not sure :/
[08:18] <SurfnKid> like silver  silv*
[08:18] <perli> is dapper already released?
[08:18] <Hso> not officially
[08:18] <Hso> I believe it gets released in June or July?
[08:18] <Jimmey__> Linuturk...*Whoosh*...Over my head. There's three days until release - All the show stoppers are pretty much gone
[08:18] <Jimmey__> !dapper
[08:18] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[08:18] <marvin_> Hello
[08:18] <mnk> is there any good sound editing software like adobe audition (cool edit) for linux? also, is there any good video editing s/w like adobe premiere / after effects for linux?
[08:18] <Jimmey__> marvin_, that's my second name :)
[08:19] <Jimmey__> mnk, search in synaptic
[08:19] <Hso> Jimmey__,  - okay, it's installed.. where do i find the icon for it? *doesn't see it in Gnome..*
[08:19] <ubuntu> hello
[08:19] <marvin_> There ist Audicity or so...
[08:19] <Jimmey__> Hso, it's a command line program.
[08:19] <Hso> oh..
[08:19] <Hso> so, "sudo john" ?
[08:19] <LinuxJones> Linuturk, >> http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS6676477122.html
[08:19] <Jimmey__> Hso, there's a good link to information about this, let me get it.
[08:19] <Hso> k
[08:19] <marvin_> System -> Systemmanagemet (or s.th. like this [i use german ubuntu] )
[08:20] <hmpedersen> hmm.. that wasn't my intention..
[08:20] <Xahur-No1> not mine either..
[08:20] <mnk> i did search but wasn't sure which stuff is good like adobe - besides some of the descriptions were a bit unclear
[08:20] <marvin_> Helllo... how can i become an ubuntu translator?
[08:20] <Xahur-No1> perhaps i should close xchat before hibernating this time..
[08:21] <marvin_> did any body know this
[08:21] <Jimmey__> Hso, http://www.openwall.com/john/doc/
[08:21] <Hso> ubuntu@x1-6-00-11-d8-49-02-26:~$ sudo john -show
[08:21] <Hso> Password files required, but none specified
[08:21] <Hso>  <-- hmmmm! I just want to de-asterix a password I can see in firefox _
[08:21] <Hso> k
[08:21] <Jimmey__> marvin_, let me find it
[08:21] <Linuturk> LinuxJones: so I got to wait until the first huh? no way to get a version to install today? would there be many differences between what I download today, and what is released 3 days from now?
[08:21] <Jimmey__> marvin_, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[08:21] <marvin_> thx
[08:22] <SurfnKid> !rp8
[08:22] <Jimmey__> Linuturk, I think the difference will be small - www.ubuntu.com/testing
[08:22] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid
[08:22] <SurfnKid> where does the system download files from the ubuntu update site to?
[08:22] <SurfnKid> got error installing realplayer, it cant find the rp8_linux20.... file
[08:23] <SurfnKid> any idea where the path of those dowloads would be
[08:23] <Hso> ubuntu@x1-6-00-11-d8-49-02-26:~$ sudo john passwd
[08:23] <Hso> stat: passwd: No such file or directory
[08:23] <Hso> it hates me _
[08:23] <Jimmey__> SurfnKid, PM me the error message
[08:23] <Jimmey__> Hso, keep reading the documentation
[08:23] <Hso> >_<;
[08:23] <yonatan> hey there, I've got a network-manager question: How can I setup my laptop that's wired to the internet as a wireless access point for others to use. Not worried about security as there's no-one around to haxxorz us...
[08:23] <Flannel> marvin_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TranslationTeam
[08:23] <Jimmey__> Hso, http://www.openwall.com/john/doc/FAQ.shtml
[08:24] <gambit> ty, jimmey
[08:24] <Flannel> Linuturk: when you download it today, you can easily upgrade it to what's released in three days, through normal updates.
[08:24] <AlinuxOS> hello, can someone help me with fonts.config ?'
[08:24] <Hso> o_X; complex..
[08:25] <Jimmey__> yonatan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetConnectionSharing?highlight=%28connection%29%7C%28sharing%29
[08:25] <Linuturk> Flannel: good, that's what I'll do. I'm more familiar with Ubuntu anyway
[08:25] <dubious9> Linuturk, what you can download now is probably 95%+ what you'd get on the 1st
[08:25] <dubious9> Linuturk, and the upgrade process is painlessly easy
[08:25] <Linuturk> is the auto LAMP on that yet?
[08:25] <dubious9> Linuturk, on the server CD, yes
[08:25] <Linuturk> wonderful
[08:25] <Linuturk> that's what I need
[08:25] <Linuturk> Ubuntu all the way, thanks, and l8r
[08:26] <dubious9> Linuturk, np have fun!
[08:26] <igorzolnikov> how can i install apache+php+mysql?
[08:26] <dubious9> igorzolnikov, it's an install option for the dapper server CD, but I don't know how to invoke it otherwise
[08:26] <reconciliation> where can I send a feature request for gnome dictionary?
[08:27] <Jimmey__> igorzonlinkovl, sudo apt-get install apache2; sudo apt-get install php5; sudo apt-get install mysql
[08:27] <Flannel> !lamp
[08:27] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:27] <Flannel> igorzolnikov: read that page.
[08:27] <Hso> che.. just guessed the pw :D so easy! XD
[08:27] <Jimmey__> Hso, what're you doing?
[08:27] <Hso> looking at the website my sister just created :P
[08:28] <Hso> it's one of those crappy websites that you can password, to stop unwanted people from looking at it :O
[08:28] <zelevw> hi...how can i set a pcs network settings from dhcp to static ip from the command line? using ubuntu 5.10...thank you
[08:29] <Hso> zelevw,  i'd love to know the same thing! :P
[08:29] <Hso> My bro dug out a very old machine.. an Amstrad em@iler SMS computer thingy! any idea what website/cummunity I would need to go to, to see if Linux can be installed on it? :O
[08:29] <[dylan] > ifconfig doesn't work?
[08:29] <Jimmey__> zelevw, change the /etc/network/interfaces file, so that it says "inface eth0 inet static [newline]  adress 000.000.000.000"
[08:29] <Jimmey__> Hso, that's how
[08:29] <zelevw> jimmey__ thank you.
[08:29] <[dylan] > ah sorry dhcp... should be /etc/network/something...
[08:29] <Hso> heh
[08:29] <Flannel> Hso: check google ;)
[08:30] <[dylan] > Jimmey__ is great :D
[08:30] <Hso> Flannel, I did check _ I was on a website earlier, but firefox just decided to close itself when my sister was using the pc... I don't remember what website I was looking at _
[08:30] <Hso> so.. who should I ask that question to?
[08:30] <Jimmey__> zelevw, you're welcome
[08:30] <Hso> it would be great if i could turn it into a linux pc! :P
[08:31] <Jimmey__> Hso, what question?
[08:31] <Jimmey__> zelevw, you shouldn't take my example literally - Replace "eth0" with your default network device, and replace "000.000.000.000" with the IP you want
[08:31] <Hso> Hso Flannel, I did check _ I was on a website earlier, but firefox just decided to close itself when my sister was using the pc... I don't remember what website I was looking at _
[08:32] <Hso> that one :P
[08:32] <majd> k i think i know the answer to this....but is there an external hard drive that can be read under linux _AND_ windows/OSX?
[08:32] <paolob> Hi guys! When is dapper release scheduled?
[08:32] <Jimmey__> Hso, that's not a question..
[08:32] <Flannel> Hso: check your history.
[08:32] <hmpedersen> Is there a way to get a wlan card to work in breezy, when the drivers for it should be included in install but arent?
[08:32] <Flannel> paolob: June 1
[08:32] <Hso> Flannel, - too many links x_X it'll take HOURS!" >_<
[08:32] <Jimmey__> majd, you'd have to format it to fat32
[08:32] <paolob> Flannel, ok
[08:32] <Hso> Jimmey__, it's not? o.O
[08:32] <Flannel> Hso: history, then you can "sort by last visited"
[08:32] <AlinuxOS> hello, can someone help me with personilized fonts.config ?
[08:32] <majd> Jimmey__, and it'd be accessible in all three OS's?
[08:32] <Hso> Flannel,  - that will take HOURS! :P
[08:33] <Jimmey__> majd, I'm not sure about MacOSX, but Windows and Linux definitely.
[08:33] <Hso> i tend to load up alot of tabs at once X_X;
[08:33] <yggdrasil> !ping
[08:33] <AlinuxOS> I need right fonts.config for georgian fonts pack.
[08:33] <ubotu> pong
[08:33] <majd> Jimmey__, good news, thanks
[08:33] <Hso> I just want to know the right placed where I can ask "hey! I have this old machine.. it's not a pc, can I run linux on it?"
[08:33] <Flannel> Hso: no, since, presumably you're reading something close to the top, as it was the last you were reading.
[08:33] <Hso> who would I ask that question, to?
[08:33] <Jimmey__> Hso, God.
[08:33] <Jimmey__> Hso, but you can call me Jimmey :)
[08:33] <Hso> God doesn't like me _
[08:33] <SurfnKid> :)
[08:33] <Flannel> Hso: google.  But, the answer is 'yes', the question is 'how easily can I/what do I ave to do'/etc
[08:33] <Hso> as-if :P
[08:33] <allen> ok.. i set up my repositorys but got a lot of different stuff with xmms.. do i use apt-get install xmms or use this synaptic package manager somehow?
[08:34] <CAN_> hi
[08:34] <Hso> Flannel,  - any further ideas for that? :P
[08:34] <Bicchi> I have upgraded to dapper and I noticed that its does not have any window sounds. like on breezy i used to hear like drums when i clossed/open an application. is anyone experiencing this also.
[08:34] <LinuxJones> Linuturk, sorry was afk, install now and upgrade, it's only a couple of days
[08:34] <Flannel> allen: right.  either way, they're both the same, synaptic is a frontend to apt.  just the "xmms" package, then whatever other plugins you want.
[08:34] <Jimmey__> allen, Synaptic is basically a graphical version of apt-get; sudo apt-get install xmms should work.
[08:34] <Flannel> Hso: yeah, google it.
[08:34] <Hso> i'd obviously thinking it has to be something super small, like DSL.. or possibly smaller? I dunno the exact specs.. I know this, though.. http://www.amstrad.com/products/emailers/emp.html#
[08:34] <Hso> Flannel, - yes, but google what phrase? _
[08:34] <CAN_> i have ubuntu dapper and an ati 9250. X just crashes with ubuntu package and ati .run .. It says no module found ...or sometimes no screen
[08:34] <CAN_> any help?
[08:34] <Jimmey__> Hso, FreeBSD will run on 8MB.
[08:34] <allen> ok..kewl im more famialiar with running with terminal so im going that way
[08:35] <Hso> 8mb.. is that hdd or ram?
[08:35] <Jimmey__> RAM
[08:35] <Hso> what about hdd?
[08:35] <Hso> and possibly cpu? :P
[08:35] <Flannel> Hso: whatever the model number is, etc.  "technical specs" with it would be good for general information, "linux" and the name will get you exactly what you need, maybe 'install linux' plus it, etc.
[08:35] <Hso> x_X;
[08:35] <allen> ok seems to be working fine..im gonna hang out a bit just in case it goes south
[08:36] <Hso> needle in a haystack..
[08:36] <Flannel> Hso: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic  and no it's not.  You just are going to have to do some research.
[08:36] <Jimmey__> Hso, wait..
[08:36] <Hso> o.O
[08:36] <drew> wats a name for a gba emu package so I cn just use apt-get
[08:37] <Flannel> drew: you can use apt-cache search [terms]  to look for package names.
[08:37] <Jimmey__> drew, sudo apt-cache search gba
[08:37] <Jimmey__> Damn, Flannel's to quick for me
[08:37] <RobNyc> !pci
[08:37] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RobNyc
[08:37] <RobNyc> !update-pci
[08:37] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RobNyc
[08:38] <RobNyc> anyone knows the pci command i gotta do to update my stuff, so when i do /video with the sysinfo script my video card name shows up ?
[08:38] <Jimmey__> RobNyc, try lspci
[08:38] <yggdrasil> does anyone here know wich module to load for atheros wireless nic ?
[08:38] <RobNyc> Jimmey__: that just shows my hardware
[08:39] <drew> well
[08:39] <Hso> Jimmey__, what should I be waiting for?
[08:39] <Jimmey__> Hso, oh, yeah...
[08:39] <Jimmey__> I can't remember, either
[08:39] <Hso> >_<;;
[08:39] <Jimmey__> Something to do with John?
[08:39] <Hso> no..
[08:39] <Jimmey__> Oh
[08:39] <Hso> I already figured out that pw
[08:39] <Jimmey__> FreeBSD
[08:39] <Hso> probably :P
[08:39] <Jimmey__> Ehrm
[08:39] <Matixs> Hello, i have problem.When i try to install a ubuntu, i get error installation initrd fail. i have already ubuntu., but i format that partition, try to install ubuntu and get that error.Now GRUB write Error 15 : file not found. What i havee to do now?
[08:39] <Jimmey__> 8MB RAM, about the same HDD space ?
[08:40] <Hso> no idea, jim?
[08:40] <Flannel> Jimmey__, Hso, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[08:40] <Hso> k
[08:40] <Jimmey__> Actually, Hso, you could take it to #freebsd
[08:40] <majd> can i download an iso of dapper or is it not out yet?
[08:40] <Jimmey__> www.ubuntu.com/testing, majd
[08:41] <Abo> any one knows a good adress book in ubuntu?
[08:41] <Jimmey__> Abo, I'm sure Evolution has one - if not, check Synaptic
[08:41] <mnk> hello all - is there a difference between gnome ooo and just ooo?
[08:41] <majd> oh shnap....i didn't know that existed lol, i be searchin google for it
[08:41] <majd> thanks
[08:41] <mnk> i'm running ubuntu and i have ooo, ooo-gnome and ooo-gtk and ooo-gtk-gnome
[08:41] <Hso> k..
[08:41] <mnk> ooo= openoffice.org
[08:43] <Hso> The nickname [hso]  is already registered <-- annoying.. I'm 99% sure that I registered this username.. but it's not liking my pw >_<;;
[08:43] <Jimmey__> Hso, that's definitely off-topic chat
[08:43] <Hso>  heh
[08:43] <garrett> is there any way to save everything i've done on a live cd to a usbkey drive?
[08:44] <ciga> hi
[08:44] <Jimmey__> garrett, I'd save the /home/ubuntu directory to the drive
[08:44] <drew> anybody here a hacker
[08:44] <Jimmey__> drew, describe hacker
[08:44] <sindrum> lol
[08:44] <garrett> Jimmey__, will that also remember the packages i've installed and everything?
[08:44] <drew> being able to search someone eles computer
[08:44] <nutterpc> 0_o
[08:45] <Jimmey__> garrett, unfortunately not
[08:45] <sindrum> just get a p2p client
[08:45] <Jimmey__> drew, grow up
[08:45] <drew> I just want to hack a friend were having a friendly compation
[08:45] <Jimmey__> drew, I'm sure you are
[08:45] <drew> dude iM only 14
[08:45] <Jimmey__> I guessed
[08:45] <jdmpike1> yo
[08:45] <garrett> drew, take some networking classes
[08:45] <drew> I guess I could
[08:45] <nutterpc> CCNA at bare minimum
[08:45] <farous> i have a whole dir where all the files can not be accesed. looking at permission it say permission can not be determined? what might cause that and how to fix it?
[08:46] <drew> the only thing though If I learn s that he uses aol (they dont offer high spped in the part of town he lives)
[08:46] <garrett> drew, that's honestly the only real way to learn that stuff. theres no such subject as hacking, it's just malicious networking
[08:46] <tarun713> hi, I have a quick question: does anyone know of any desktop pci wireless cards that work out of the box with dapper?
[08:46] <drew> and aol isnt a real isp
[08:46] <garrett> Jimmey__, thanks
[08:46] <drew> oh
[08:46] <drew> well
[08:46] <jdmpike1> I just did the Dapper upgrade and hosed my xserver - does the 2.6.15-23 kernel not work with the latest nvidia-glx package for Dapper?
[08:46] <nutterpc> jdmpike1: it does
[08:46] <tarun713> jdmpike1, it does, rerun the x.org config script and it should work
[08:47] <nutterpc> I'm running the nvidia-glx-legacy and it works
[08:47] <drew> but I would rather learn linux first
[08:47] <farous> jdmpike1: the new upgrade had linux-restricted modules in them updated. if you did compile from source you need ot do it again
[08:47] <jdmpike1> tarun713, can you remind me how to re-run that script?
[08:47] <ciga> when I run glxgears I got a lot of error messages like '[fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for GenerateMipmapEXT'. I just did an upgrade in dapper.
[08:47] <drew> does anybody know how to compile from source
[08:47] <hmpedersen> here we go again.. "rt2500     driver present"
[08:47] <nutterpc> drew: its called gcc
[08:47] <jdmpike1> farous, I used linux restricted
[08:47] <Flannel> ciga: #ubuntu+1 for dapper stuff.
[08:47] <tarun713> jdmpike1, what I did was run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:47] <drew> what does gcc do
[08:48] <jdmpike1> tarun713, thanks I will give that a shot
[08:48] <Jimmey__> It's a compiler
[08:48] <nutterpc> compiles programs
[08:48] <drew> oh
[08:48] <nutterpc> :)
[08:48] <nutterpc> http://gcc.gnu.org
[08:48] <drew> I remember while installing java I made a fake .deb package but I dont remember the site
[08:48] <Flannel> drew: build-essential is the package you want, to get everything you need to build things
[08:48] <nutterpc> lol Jimmey__
[08:48] <mnk> i am trying to install the gnome preloader app for openoffice - but it is telling me that i have to uninstall ubuntu-desktop. is that right???
[08:49] <nutterpc> got about 30Gb of data to pull across the network............fun
[08:49] <Jimmey__> mnk, did you do a default install of Ubuntu?
[08:49] <nutterpc> -_-
[08:49] <mnk> yes  jimmey
[08:49] <drew> I alread have build essential Just did the apt-get
[08:49] <e0f> Hi guys. In what package i found alsaconf ?
[08:50] <mnk> my ooo is very slow so i'm wondering if i have the wrong version or something? what's this gtk / gnome version thng?
[08:50] <nutterpc> alsa-utils e0f
[08:50] <nutterpc> afaik
[08:50] <Jimmey__> mnk, you're trying to install something, and it says you've to un-install ubuntu-desktop?
[08:50] <mnk> yeah correct, jimmey
[08:50] <e0f> nutterpc, i've installed now alsa-utils but i don't find alsaconf
[08:50] <dauoalagio> where can i get a audio driver for my computer?
[08:50] <Jimmey__> mnk, it's just the graphics libraries for Gnome, I should think
[08:50] <nutterpc> e0f: try alsa-tools
[08:50] <mnk> OpenOffice.org QuickStarter applet for GNOME 2
[08:50] <mnk> i'm trying to install that
[08:51] <mnk> and for some odd reason it is trying to remove openoffice-gnone too
[08:51] <ciga> Flannel: k. sorry.
[08:51] <nutterpc> Jimmey__: getting my backup I did a week ago off our NAS here.........lol.........all 30Gb of it, gunna take at least an hour
[08:51] <e0f> nutterpc, nope, i don't found it.
[08:51] <nutterpc> e0f: that's strange
[08:51] <nutterpc> whats the problem?
[08:52] <nutterpc> what are you trying to do?
[08:52] <e0f> nutterpc, i try to install Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller
[08:52] <nutterpc> ahh
[08:52] <dauoalagio> i need that e0f
[08:52] <mnk> jimmey - my ooo is like a million times slower than abiword. could it be that i'm using the wrong widget set or something? as i have both openoffice.org-gnome and openoffice.org-gtk installed
[08:52] <nutterpc> and whats it not doing?
[08:53] <Jimmey__> mnk, are you using Gnome?
[08:53] <lutra> mnk: ooo is just a big pig
[08:53] <lutra> mnk: abiword is much faster and lighter
[08:53] <dauoalagio> e0f can you install that driver?
[08:53] <intelikey> hmmm what's some good switches to add to  mke2fs  /dev/sda     ?  -c for checking...   what else ?
[08:53] <nutterpc> e0f: have you checked to make sure the driver is not already loaded?
[08:53] <e0f> dauoalagio, yep
[08:53] <mnk> jimmey - i'm using gnome
[08:53] <CAN> i installed everything i could to support ati drivers. Nothing X keeps crashing just with "No screen found" or EE fglrx driver not loaded .. or not found... modprobe fglrx won`t ever work.. any help plz?\
[08:53] <dauoalagio> where is the link?
[08:53] <e0f> nutterpc, i'm sure
[08:53] <nutterpc> e0f: have you run alsamixer?
[08:54] <mnk> jimmey - but i dunno - the menus don't *seem* gnome to me!
[08:54] <mnk> i.e in oo
[08:54] <e0f> nutterpc, yep
[08:54] <Jimmey__> mnk, weird :S You're not running it as root, or anything?
[08:54] <dauoalagio> e0f: how did you get that driver?
[08:54] <nutterpc> and what does it report?
[08:54] <Jimmey__> mnk, how much RAM do you have/
[08:55] <e0f> nutterpc, yep.
[08:55] <nutterpc> e0f: what does it say when you try to run alsamixer?
[08:55] <mnk> jimmey 512mb ram, and no i;m not running it as root
[08:55] <Jimmey__> mnk, very weird..
[08:55] <mnk> jimmey__ which part is weird to u?
[08:55] <e0f> nutterpc, the channel volume :)
[08:56] <Jimmey__> mnk, has it always done this? Or just recently?
[08:56] <nutterpc> CAN: I had that earlier dude, wonder if its similar to fix like mine was
[08:56] <nutterpc> e0f: double check to make sure the volume isn't muted
[08:56] <mnk> jimmey__ it has always done that
[08:56] <e0f> nutterpc, i check it.
[08:57] <nutterpc> Intel sound chips are all supported under the snd_ich driver
[08:57] <nutterpc> iirc
[08:57] <CAN> athlon-xp x just keeps crashing
[08:57] <walkover> hey everybody. Im trying to install nvidia drivers and the installer complains that it cant find my kernel source. I just installed dapper with a dist-upgrade. I dont know how to get the source. Can anyone help?
[08:57] <CAN> nutterpc:
[08:57] <nutterpc> CAN: what kernel version are you running
[08:57] <mnk> jimmey__ am i sposed to have both openoffice.org-gnome and openoffice.org-gtk installed if i;m only ruinning gnome?
[08:57] <CAN> a tried some of them
[08:57] <walkover> 2.6.12-9-386
[08:58] <CAN> that one
[08:58] <Andrea\> sera
[08:58] <Jimmey__> mnk, yeah
[08:58] <CAN> the k7 versinon..
[08:58] <mnk> hmm
[08:58] <CAN> till the dapper kernel
[08:58] <CAN> with dist-upgrade ..
[08:58] <CAN> right now..
[08:58] <mnk> jimmey__ so how do i know if it is using gnome widgets or gtk ones?
[08:58] <Krpano> can anyone tip me about my mouse problem ?
[08:58] <walkover> im sorry i dont understand
[08:58] <Jimmey__> gtk is the graphical API for widgets in Gnome
[08:59] <Jimmey__> I'm pretty sure
[08:59] <mnk> oh i c
[09:00] <intelikey> walkover may i sujest   apt-cache search linux-image  &&  apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-23-386  or something like that then  apt-get the source also.    apt-cache search is your friend.
[09:00] <nutterpc> CAN: what I did to remedy mine was to completely drop out of the current kernel, to a backup one, modify the xorg.conf to point to the xorg nv driver (in your case would be ati), then reboot, choose the backup kernel, log back in, go to synaptic, find the nvidia drivers and completely get rid of it, then reboot, same procedure again, except reinstall the drivers for the card & update the kernel at the same time
[09:00] <B0FH> !sources
[09:00] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:00] <nutterpc> worked for me :)
[09:00] <SurfnKid> !realplayer
[09:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:00] <Krpano> help !!!.....:)
[09:00] <SurfnKid> where should i install the realplayer? which path?
[09:01] <SurfnKid> /etc/bin?
[09:01] <SurfnKid> /usr/bin?
[09:01] <Jimmey__> Kprano, what's the problem
[09:01] <sindrum> anyone know of a flash developer kit for linux?
[09:01] <nutterpc> try that CAN, see if it works for you
[09:01] <Krpano> i changed my 57xmodmap, and my wheel has the functions of the side mouse buttons
[09:01] <sindrum> searched google couldnt find anything
[09:01] <dauoalagio> how do you install something using ndiswrapper?
[09:01] <Krpano> its like this xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7"
[09:01] <Krpano> what would be the correct sequence ?
[09:02] <intelikey> walkover synaptic package manager is also an option for such things.    the kernel source is called  linux-source  iirc
[09:02] <rixxon> i have two file browsers up and want to copy some files between them, is there some easy way to have to different locations beside each other (either like total commander or like windows 'arrenge windows')?
[09:03] <intelikey> rixxon gentoo      or drag and drop from one file manager to the other...
[09:04] <Krpano> nobody has the side mouse buttons working ?
[09:04] <rixxon> intelikey: yea that works, but aint very efficent... oh well thanks
[09:04] <allen> any idea where apt-get downloads folders to...looking for the xmms skins folder
[09:04] <Jimmey__> Krpano, you'll have to do something special with xorg, I think
[09:04] <gnomefreak> allen: ~/.xmms
[09:04] <intelikey> rixxon some like gentoo   some dont
[09:04] <rixxon> heh
[09:04] <CAN> nutterpc: hope that will work.
[09:05] <intelikey> rixxon i'm not refering to a distro
[09:05] <nutterpc> CAN: it should :)
[09:05] <Krpano> i did it....it ok....but i dunno the correct buttons sequence....
[09:05] <intelikey> apt-cache search gentoo
[09:05] <jdmpike1> ok, after dapper upgrade - I can't load Nvidia kernel module...
[09:05] <Jimmey__> !dapper
[09:05] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[09:05] <nutterpc> jdmpike1: read my post to CAN
[09:06] <nutterpc> scroll up dude
[09:06] <nutterpc> ^^
[09:06] <green_earz> allen: use the commad :  dpkg -L xmms-skins   and it show you where xmms-skins   files are
[09:06] <Ademan_> what would cause this error (in KDevelop when i try and build) aclocal: configure.in: 8: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
[09:07] <allen> gnomefreak...i cant seem to find it
[09:07] <oiuae> hi there. i'm looking for ultility that allows me for fast confersion of mp3 files from stereo to mono. Could you recommend me some program (the best would be command line app). pliiiiz ;)
[09:07] <Abo> how can I know where is the install directory of a software (say firefox or apache or anything in general)
[09:07] <Drasla> hey, I've a question regarding the mount command.  I'm trying to create a link of a directory (/example/folder) in a user's home directory (/home/ftpuser) so that a user can ftp in and access these other files.  a symbolic link won't work for security reasons, and you can't create hard links of folders.  I know this is possible with the mount command, but have no idea how to do it.
[09:07] <gnomefreak> allen: open home and than hit ctrl+h and it will show hidden files
[09:08] <gnomefreak> allen: there should be one that says .xmms open that and look gfor skins
[09:08] <Jimmey__> Drasla, maybe you could mount it on boot with fstab
[09:08] <Drasla> Jimmey__: I want to, but I don't know the syntax to do that.  what filesystem type would I indicate?
[09:08] <intelikey> Abo in linux there is NOT an install dirrectory.   it will have files in /etc /usr/bin /usr/share/docs /lib  and other dirs
[09:08] <yggdrasil> where does dapper list the modules to be loaded at boot ?
[09:08] <Jimmey__> Drasla, ext3?
[09:08] <yggdrasil> used to be etc/modules
[09:08] <allen> its got 0 items in the folder
[09:09] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:09] <gnomefreak> allen: did you run xmms yet?
[09:09] <oiuae> yggdrasil /etc/modules? i deep it is there
[09:09] <intelikey> Abo dpkg -L package <name>
[09:09] <drew> has anybody installed BoyCott advance
[09:09] <nutterpc> debfoster, such a lovely program for spring cleaning on your install :D
[09:09] <allen> yes it works fine...but there was no skins..so i apt-get skins
[09:09] <drew> I need help installing it
[09:09] <Drasla> Jimmey__: /example/folder is formatted with jfs, but when I try that, I get the message "/example/folder is not a block device"
[09:09] <yggdrasil> deep? hehr
[09:09] <Abo> intelikey, thanks, this one is good
[09:09] <PetrolBomb> can I apt-get themes for this gnomey?
[09:10] <PetrolBomb> Maybe
[09:10] <gnomefreak> allen: than i would use dpkg -L xmms-skins
[09:10] <intelikey> Abo apt-cache search <generic-name>   will reviel the package name
[09:10] <Jimmey__> PetrolBomb, www.gnome-look.org
[09:10] <PetrolBomb> AHh Jimmey to the rescue again
[09:10] <Abo> ok thanks
[09:11] <allen> ok...thanks guys
[09:11] <PetrolBomb> Jimmy,can I grab any of those or must it be a specific version?
[09:11] <Jimmey__> GTK 2+
[09:11] <hmpedersen> I'm still having no luck getting ubuntu online
[09:11] <intelikey> Abo may i also caution you about dirrectly manipulating files on the linux system.  things are kinda all tied to gather so to speak, it's easy to break things.
[09:12] <dauoalagio> what is the sound driver for ubuntu and how do i install it
[09:12] <Abo> intelikey, thank you, but if to configure some config files in firefox, or apache, I need to know where they are
[09:12] <PetrolBomb> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=39703
[09:13] <PetrolBomb> I downloaded that one Jimmey
[09:13] <PetrolBomb> To desktop
[09:13] <PetrolBomb> Now what?
[09:13] <Jimmey__> Ehrm
[09:13] <Jimmey__> System>>Preferences>>Theme, drag and drop the file into that window
[09:13] <intelikey> Abo   man intro  &&  man man        the man(ual) pages are there to help with such things.    i.e. man apache2
[09:13] <PetrolBomb> ;)
[09:13] <Abo> intelikey, I need to know the location where I should put my html file so apache can show them ,
[09:14] <Abo> intelikey, ok I'll try man apache2
[09:14] <intelikey>  /var/www
[09:14] <intelikey> Abo  ^
[09:15] <h3h_timo> why does it say there is no installation candidate when i try to install azureus
[09:15] <allen> hey guys just to let you know..i fixed xmms
[09:15] <allen> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xmms/+bug/3208
[09:15] <allen> a bug..but it works great now
[09:15] <Jimmey__> h3h_timo, do you have the right repositories enabled?
[09:15] <allen> thanks for the help
[09:15] <h3h_timo> i dunno.. i think i do
[09:15] <h3h_timo> but i dunno if java is installed right
[09:16] <ompaul> !azureus
[09:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[09:16] <green_earz> dauoalagio: do you mean what is the sound drive for a card is ? if so open a terminal and then the to this link and do as it say. to find out the cards driver name >http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[09:16] <ompaul> h3h_timo, ^^ up a couple of lines
[09:16] <erik_m> Is Ubuntu suitable for using on a server? was wondering if anyone has done this and what they thought of it
[09:17] <h3h_timo> ompaul, i see that.. i know how to install it, as ive had it installed before i had to reboot mys istem
[09:17] <luminaire> sup
[09:17] <sidewinder_> espaol
[09:17] <ompaul> !es
[09:17] <sidewinder_> espaol
[09:17] <basvg> hmmm, I can't seem to log into my ubuntu destkop @home anymore. After I type in username/password I only get a blank splash screen... don't get the little panel that tells me which services are being loaded
[09:17] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:17] <alemur> does anyone have flash plugin experience?
[09:17] <luminaire> I need a radius client for linux. any suggestions?
[09:17] <basvg> I can log in on the console..
[09:17] <crimsun> alemur: what's the issue?
[09:17] <alemur> crimsun, I can see the flash, but I don't hear any sound
[09:18] <h3h_timo> ompaul, how do i check to see if i have java installed? i think i  installed it but im not sure
[09:18] <crimsun> alemur: are you using breezy or dapper?
[09:18] <alemur> crimsun, dapper.  It worked once, but now it does not, all other sound is fine.
[09:18] <ompaul> luminaire, have a look at "sudo apt-cache search radius" and find something that suits you
[09:18] <alemur> one does not need to sudo for apt-cache
[09:18] <alemur> er, apt-cache search, that is
[09:19] <ompaul> h3h_timo, check out the instructions the bot sent ya
[09:19] <green_earz> h3h_timo: http://www.v-workshops.com/java/   and see if you see any snow
[09:19] <SurfnKid> hey how can i create a directory in /usr/bin?
[09:19] <dmbt> mkdir /usr/bin/whatever
[09:19] <SurfnKid> k
[09:19] <basvg> there's not much interesting in ~/.xsession-errors... and /var/log/messages only has some stuff on gconf which I don't understand
[09:20] <ompaul> SurfnKid, put a sudo in front of that - but it should be be something you have to do - what are you trying to install ?
[09:20] <dmbt> youll probably want to be root when doing that
[09:20] <alemur> SurfnKid, you have to sudo for that, but it's not a good thing to do, in general.  It makes a mess :)
[09:20] <ompaul> !root
[09:20] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:20] <PetrolBomb> Thanks Jimmey got the best themes now.
[09:21] <ompaul> dmbt, we don't say rot we give that factoid and let uses choose for themselves, it means that few if any use non sudo ways of doing things so we have some idea of what is the actual setup
[09:21] <ompaul> dmbt, (cos people break things ;-))
[09:21] <SurfnKid> alemur thanks i got it
[09:21] <dmbt> ompaul: sorry, i thought this was #linux
[09:21] <simonpca> plop
[09:21] <ompaul> :-)
[09:21] <SurfnKid> ompaul the real player, and i didnt know where to install the files so I just put them in /usr/bin/RealPlayer8 folder
[09:21] <SurfnKid> thanx dmbt that worked
[09:22] <dmbt> SurfnKid: thats not a very good spot to install it into
[09:22] <ompaul> !realplayer
[09:22] <ubotu> methinks realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:22] <SurfnKid> ok, someone please tell me where should i install all default programs cuz i have no clue
[09:22] <ompaul> SurfnKid, that is how to do it ^^
[09:22] <SurfnKid> ah
[09:22] <SurfnKid> well i did install the realplayer from SPM but it said I had to download it from realplayer so i did. got the .bin file
[09:22] <ompaul> SurfnKid, that is not default, its a case by case basis, so just say what you actaully want and we will most likely have something for you
[09:23] <basvg> would it be better to ask this on #gnome?
[09:23] <SurfnKid> ok
[09:23] <h3h_timo> !frostwire
[09:23] <ubotu> [frostwire]  a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWireHowTo
[09:23] <ompaul> !tell h3h_timo about msgthebot
[09:23] <EmxBA> hi!
[09:23] <Guyzmo> hi
[09:23] <Guyzmo> I was wondering
[09:23] <topyli> what's wrong with the realplayer packages that are available?
[09:23] <Guyzmo> as ubuntu is based on debian
[09:23] <Guyzmo> is it possible to do an upgrade from debian to ubuntu ?
[09:24] <drew> hey does anybody know why limewire wont come back with search results
[09:24] <sindrum> it sucks...
[09:24] <drew> it says it hasnt connected to the server
[09:25] <drew> wat sux
[09:25] <sindrum> limewire
[09:25] <ompaul> Guyzmo, it would most likely be better not to, you could try if you were stable -1 on thursday to move to etch when we dapper crazy
[09:25] <drew> oh well I dont know anthor p2p clinet
[09:25] <sindrum> ohh...ok
[09:25] <SurfnKid> oh crap it installed, it works, it even put an icon in the applications menu. however the realplayer doesnt work, only the RealPlayer10 link. so i must remove tha
[09:25] <ompaul> Guyzmo, that was rubbish let me go again
[09:25] <drew> know one that uses java
[09:26] <drew> so I wont have to compile and all that crap
[09:26] <Guyzmo> uhuh
[09:26] <ompaul> SurfnKid, easy on the language we want a G rating
[09:26] <MorbidHunger> hey guys
[09:26] <drew> bacuase I cant get boycott or anything from source to install
[09:26] <SurfnKid> crap isnt allowed now?
[09:26] <Guyzmo> ompaul - didn't really understand what you said :)
[09:26] <drew> none of them have a ./configure
[09:26] <SurfnKid> sheesh ok
[09:27] <Ademan_> anyone here use kdevelop?
[09:27] <drew> how do I install from source?
[09:27] <ompaul> Guyzmo, if you are using etch I would not, if you have sarge or below then I would say maybe try to get to dapper on thursday or even now and track its last couple of days
[09:27] <EmxBA> no
[09:27] <EmxBA> drew:what
[09:27] <void^> drew: you read the readme
[09:27] <MorbidHunger> drew: extrat the tarball first
[09:27] <Guyzmo> well, I'm running etch :/
[09:27] <drew> yes but they dont tell u how to compile
[09:27] <void^> drew: read any other docs it comes with.
[09:27] <Guyzmo> ompaul - the thing I'm the most afraid of
[09:28] <basvg> hmmm ok, it's not X that's the problem. startx "works"
[09:28] <ompaul> Guyzmo, then I would not try to, remember its based on sid frozen over the last few months
[09:28] <MorbidHunger> drew: did u extract the tarball?
[09:28] <drew> well I just deleted the tarball
[09:28] <Guyzmo> is about breaking apt
[09:28] <Ademan_> in the console navigate to the directory you extracted to
[09:28] <Ademan_> and generally you can then ./configure
[09:28] <Ademan_> and then"make"
[09:28] <EmxBA> and make install
[09:28] <MorbidHunger> Ademan_: i had dibs this time
[09:28] <drew> well it dosent have a ./configure
[09:28] <Ademan_> hehe sorry
[09:28] <Guyzmo> ompaul - I know, and if I wanna switch that's because I'm tired of not having the last packages when coding on cvsed projects
[09:28] <EmxBA> or make install prefix= where do you want to install it
[09:28] <Ademan_> then there might be an install.sh
[09:28] <hmpedersen> I'm never going to be able to come online like this..
[09:28] <igorzolnikov> how can i install ruby?
[09:29] <Ademan_> synaptic...
[09:29] <MagicFab> hello - I am using a 2nd keyboard mapping (us + alt-intl variant) but would like to be able to make c cedil (french), much as the Windows "US - International" keyboard setup. How can I do this ? Here's what I have in my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/745376
[09:29] <Silencer> ppl can some1 tell me I goit ubuntu 5.10 and would like to update it to 6.06 Rc will I be able to update it later to final relese ?
[09:29] <ompaul> Guyzmo, back up the home and give it a shot with an install cd available
[09:29] <MorbidHunger> Silencer: Yes
[09:29] <tomas__> Hey everybody. Need one short info
[09:29] <intelikey> Silencer yup
[09:29] <drew> well maybe I dont know the configure script
[09:29] <drew> what do I type
[09:30] <richard> what kind of firewall does ubunto have?
[09:30] <intelikey> Silencer well that's the way it is 'supposed' to work
[09:30] <MorbidHunger> drew: ./configure
[09:30] <intelikey> richard iptables
[09:30] <wulax> richard: iptables
[09:30] <wulax> dam
[09:30] <drew> it says no file or directory
[09:30] <ompaul> richard, what kind do you want, all linux ones are iptables backends with some frontends
[09:30] <quix> khermans hey?!?!
[09:30] <letinum> Hi! I need help to compile my kernel! I don't know why but it say "You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0." But It's installed! I try many many thing, nothing, everytime the same message! :( Someone can help me?
[09:30] <richard> how can i add a block list to it?
[09:30] <Guyzmo> well thanks
[09:30] <Guyzmo> I'll see what I'm gonna do
[09:30] <Silencer> ok thx for answers :) I will test it on my server ;P
[09:30] <wulax> richard: install firestarter
[09:31] <Silencer> can I see the packages of Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[09:31] <MorbidHunger> drew: make sure in the folder where u extracted the tarball
[09:31] <void^> letinum: use make menuconfig
[09:31] <tomas__> does enyone have that problem that while running the system, It suddenly stops doing everything, till I pres Alt. Then its working again for some time, and then stops again. Its annoying.
[09:31] <ompaul> Silencer,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:31] <Silencer> <3
[09:31] <intelikey> richard firestarter is a config for iptables   quicktables is a config for iptables  shorewall smothwall.....
[09:31] <letinum> void : menuconfig don't work, juste make config work :(
[09:31] <intelikey> smoothwall
[09:32] <hmpedersen> Well... I guess Ubuntu goes then. No use to me offline
[09:32] <drew> all there is a boyca.cfg file
[09:32] <void^> letinum: how does it not work?
[09:32] <drew> okay well thats not it
[09:32] <green_earz> richard: have a look at shorewall for your firewall setup http://www.shorewall.net/   shorewall can be installed with apt-get
[09:32] <drew> but the only config type file
[09:32] <EmxBA> intelikey : firestarter is for newcomers
[09:32] <intelikey> richard i like quicktables.  google should know where it's located
[09:32] <richard> firestarter .... or shorewell?
[09:32] <tomas__> it just stops, like you would press Pause
[09:32] <EmxBA> richard: shorewall
[09:32] <intelikey> EmxBA so is quicktables
[09:32] <letinum> this is the error : make[2] : *** [scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o]  Erreur 1
[09:32] <letinum> make[1] : *** [menuconfig]  Erreur 2
[09:32] <letinum> make: *** [menuconfig]  Erreur 2
[09:32] <MorbidHunger> drew: are you in the right file?
[09:33] <EmxBA> intelikey: well, yes
[09:33] <drew> yes in the tarball's extracted folder
[09:33] <EmxBA> letinum: try automake
[09:33] <EmxBA> it will make right Makefiles
[09:33] <MorbidHunger> and u ran ./configure?
[09:33] <drew> yes
[09:33] <Silencer> eh
[09:33] <MorbidHunger> wats the output?
[09:33] <Silencer> 6.06 use kernel-2.4 ?
[09:33] <amphi> letinum: that is not the error
[09:33] <drew> no such file or directory
[09:33] <void^> letinum: that doesn't say anything. post it all on pastebin. perhaps you're just missing libncurses5-dev.
[09:33] <MorbidHunger> interesting
[09:33] <amphi> letinum: you have ncurses dev package installed?
[09:33] <intelikey> EmxBA i like the 'quickblock' that quicktables adds.    you can 'quickblock 0.0.0.0 '  and it's firewalled out.
[09:33] <Silencer> o 6.15 ;)
[09:33] <EmxBA> Silencer: 6.06 uses 2.6.15 kernel
[09:34] <drew> everything seems to be like this
[09:34] <letinum> EmxBA : How can I use automake?
[09:34] <MorbidHunger> do u see the configure file?
[09:34] <letinum> I'll check
[09:34] <EmxBA> intelikey: yes, that's why i like quickblock
[09:34] <drew> yea there is a boyca.cfg
[09:34] <amphi> letinum: the actual error is before the stuff you pasted
[09:34] <EmxBA> letinum: type automake
[09:34] <EmxBA> it will make right Makefile for compiling
[09:34] <MorbidHunger> there should jsut be something that says configure
[09:34] <void^> EmxBA: he's trying to compile a kernel. no automake.
[09:34] <drew> nope
[09:34] <MorbidHunger> it might just be a binary
[09:35] <letinum> Ok I install Libncurses5-dev ans I retry
[09:35] <richard> which version of shorewall should i go for?
[09:35] <amphi> EmxBA: he's configuring a kernel
[09:35] <drew> just 3 files and a doc folder
[09:35] <intelikey> why does ubunt installer freek when i refuse to add a user ?
[09:35] <EmxBA> amphi: oh, sorry
[09:35] <richard> Debian one?
[09:35] <EmxBA> intelikey: espresso?
[09:35] <amphi> EmxBA: no worries ;)
[09:35] <void^> intelikey: how is sudo supposed to work without a user?
[09:35] <MorbidHunger> yeah its a binary
[09:35] <drew> should I check the debian tarball to
[09:35] <basvg> hmmm let me try that again then: just created a *new* user on my breezy box. Tried to log in and right after gdm it stops. Just shows me a blue splash screen. Machine doesn't hang or anything. Does anyone have a suggestion what that could be?
[09:35] <Centaur5> What is the initrd image in /boot for and how was it created?
[09:35] <letinum> Yes :) very thanks menu config work!
[09:35] <hmpedersen> Nobody even noticed any of my questions at all?
[09:36] <amphi> letinum: cool
[09:36] <crimsun> Centaur5: in breezy or dapper?
[09:36] <intelikey> void^ i don't use sudo.
[09:36] <EmxBA> basvg: maybe you don't have right .gnome files or something similar
[09:36] <MorbidHunger> hmpedersen: nope
[09:36] <Centaur5> crimsun: Dapper
[09:36] <basvg> EmxBA: older users can't log in either
[09:36] <PetrolBomb> Anyone know where I can get good Beep Media PLayer skins from???
[09:36] <PetrolBomb> BMP
[09:36] <crimsun> Centaur5: I'll explain in #ubuntu+1
[09:36] <EmxBA> basvg: so who can login anyway
[09:36] <void^> intelikey: you'll probably have a hard time convincing the ubuntu installer to do it your way
[09:36] <basvg> EmxBA: I can put the .xsession-error online if htat's helpful
[09:36] <drew> why does it have to be soo hard
[09:37] <EmxBA> basvg: put it on pastebin
[09:37] <EmxBA> basvg: don't reboot
[09:37] <hmpedersen> Fine..  Ubuntu isn't worth much to me anymore.. With a ralink 2500 wlan card not working and nobody even trying to answer my questions for 7 hours
[09:37] <basvg> EmxBA: what is pastebin?
[09:37] <intelikey> void^ in fact i generally remove sudo.   and no the installer freeks but i know how to force it to do things my way.
[09:37] <MorbidHunger> drew: jsut run the binary
[09:37] <drew> how
[09:37] <EmxBA> basvg: go to paste.ubuntu-nl.org and post your xsession errors there
[09:37] <ompaul> !tell hmpedersen about ndiswrapper
[09:37] <EmxBA> and give me the ling
[09:37] <void^> intelikey: and the problem is..?
[09:37] <ompaul> hmpedersen, well I was here but not looking for 7 hours
[09:37] <intelikey> just wonder why it throws such a fit...
[09:37] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: what's the problem
[09:37] <ompaul> hmpedersen, read the message from the bot
[09:37] <MorbidHunger> if u type ls there should be a green file
[09:38] <drew> then
[09:38] <hmpedersen> ompaul: I've spent 7 hours trying to use ndiswrapper now. It doesn't work at all and everyone has been ignoring me both here and in #ndiswrapper for the past 7 hours!
[09:38] <MorbidHunger> run ./greenfile
[09:38] <hmpedersen> ralink 2500 drivers are even in the breezy install.. But they don't work!
[09:38] <intelikey> void^ my question was "why does..."  nothing more.
[09:38] <void^> intelikey: because it's ubuntu policy/design
[09:39] <drew> it says run command not found
[09:39] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: sorry, could you explain me what's ralink
[09:39] <EmxBA> device
[09:39] <MorbidHunger> interesting
[09:39] <intelikey> k
[09:39] <MorbidHunger> what did u download?
[09:39] <basvg> rats! a reboot fixed it. My splash screen is completely messed up and some settings are gone but.. it's fixed!
[09:39] <basvg> amazing
[09:39] <beerockxs> I'm having a problem recording audio with my ew microphone, using a CMI8738 card. Microphone is unmuted in the mixer, Mic as LFE/Center is disabled, and still i get no sound when trying to record.
[09:39] <drew> sooo
[09:40] <intelikey> does debian installer freek out on things like that void^ ?
[09:40] <drew> do I have to be in su
[09:40] <EmxBA> basvg: great
[09:40] <MorbidHunger> should be
[09:40] <MorbidHunger> what did u download?
[09:40] <ompaul> hmpedersen, well if I am not looking at the screen or no one has and answer for you - then maybe it is not known, wrt ndiswrapper, I would say to you assume you have never done it before and take yourself though it one more time, you can also look a http://help.ubuntu.com/ for networking and there is a http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/ for dapper
[09:40] <drew> okay Im in su
[09:40] <basvg> well, dunno what fixed it but thanks anyway guys
[09:40] <drew> but it still says run command not found
[09:40] <MorbidHunger> thats so gay
[09:40] <ompaul> !gay
[09:40] <drew> nm
[09:41] <igorzolnikov> Hi! I am developer. I like Ubuntu 6.06. How can i help ubuntu?
[09:41] <oden_> halo
[09:41] <ompaul> !test
[09:41] <ubotu> Failed.
[09:41] <MorbidHunger> paste the output
[09:41] <intelikey> drew   run   is not a default command.
[09:41] <drew> i found out u dont put in the run
[09:41] <ompaul> !+gay
[09:41] <ubotu> gay is probably the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess  Some highly ignorant folks think it's an insult of some sort.  Who can tell why?
[09:41] <EmxBA> igotzolnikov: see ubuntu.com for more information
[09:41] <oden_> i say halo
[09:41] <MorbidHunger> just ./filename
[09:41] <MorbidHunger> igorzolnikov : buy us all beer
[09:41] <void^> intelikey: no, debian is a different distro and does things differently. (ie., not aimed at endusers)
[09:41] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, join #ubuntu-motu for some ideas
[09:42] <intelikey> drew if you want a 'run' type command, it is  exec
[09:42] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, or join #ubuntu-bugs
[09:42] <PetrolBomb> WHere to find skins for Beep Media Player???
[09:42] <redguy> igorzolnikov: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[09:42] <intelikey> void^ you make me want debian so much more.................
[09:42] <drew> i found out how to run it
[09:42] <MorbidHunger> PetrolBomb: google
[09:42] <EmxBA> igorzolnikov: you can help  us, firstly by shipping lots of ubuntu's to your country
[09:42] <nahoj> hmm.. second time gnome freezes today...
[09:42] <nahoj> =/
[09:42] <skippy_> i might install debian
[09:42] <hmpedersen> ompaul, the problem is. I have a wlan card which is perfectly linux compatible.. It pains me, as a tech. to spend 8 hours straight getting nowhere, because it refuse to work with the linux distro i untill now has seens as the best
[09:43] <HP_Owner> hi, what file system does linux run on?
[09:43] <skippy_> hmpedersen what type of card is it
[09:43] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: which card
[09:43] <oden_> you are dubm
[09:43] <skippy_> HP_Owner ext3 is the most common
[09:43] <hmpedersen> I've never spent more than 20 minutes getting something to work with ndiswrapper before.. 8 hours is way more than I can use
[09:43] <ompaul> oden_, be nice ...
[09:43] <oden_> i mean dumb
[09:43] <MorbidHunger> HP_Owner: ext3 by defualy
[09:43] <HP_Owner> thanks
[09:43] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: just put it in and try iwconfig <device>, mostly eth1
[09:43] <hmpedersen> Zonet ZEW1601
[09:43] <skippy_> but XFS JFS EXT2 and ReiserFS are possible alternatives HP_Owner
[09:43] <oden_> soory guyz
[09:44] <skippy_> i use XFS, but i cant honestly say ive noticed a difference
[09:44] <canavaro5> ciao
[09:44] <ompaul> !it
[09:44] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:44] <oden_> oh crap how many words xan i spell rong
[09:44] <hmpedersen> EmxBA, a wireless wouldn't be eth1.. Especially when all I have on the list is eth0, lo and sit0
[09:44] <PetrolBomb> Ahhh figured it out,you can use WInamp skins with BMP Player!
[09:44] <PetrolBomb> Just drag n drop
[09:44] <drew> how do I set my other partition so I can write to it
[09:44] <drew> it says ur not owner so u cannot make changes
[09:44] <skippy_> yes PetrolBomb, same with xmms
[09:44] <skippy_> a very nice touch
[09:44] <intelikey> !tell drew about ntfs
[09:44] <skippy_> :)
[09:44] <PetrolBomb> Yay skippy\!
[09:44] <hmpedersen> drew, what filesystem is the partition?
[09:44] <skippy_> hello again lol
[09:45] <MorbidHunger> PetrolBomb: thats scary
[09:45] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: but i have PCMCIA slot (notebook) and it is eth1 , usually it is eth1
[09:45] <drew> fat32
[09:45] <richard> Is there a program to monitor internet traffic - something like DU meter on windows?
[09:45] <drew> I made sure it was so both windows and linux can write to it
[09:45] <EmxBA> or try http://forum.nubuntu.org/index.php?showtopic=42
[09:45] <skippy_> richard, ethereal is a sniffer
[09:45] <PetrolBomb> KNET load network monitor
[09:45] <intelikey> drew same umask dmask fmask rules apply
[09:45] <drew> how can I make it so I can  write to it
[09:45] <dmbt> ethereal is *really* good
[09:45] <skippy_> yeah i love ethereal
[09:46] <hmpedersen> drew, you can't
[09:46] <skippy_> raw sockets on linux kick ass
[09:46] <drew> intel I dont understand I just started yesterday
[09:46] <EmxBA> dmbt: i like ethereal too, so good
[09:46] <ompaul> richard, bwbar is ont thing
[09:46] <ompaul> richard, bwbar is one thing
[09:46] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: try http://forum.linspire.com/viewtopic.php?t=422366&
[09:46] <EmxBA> also
[09:46] <ompaul> !language
[09:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[09:46] <skippy_> my little brother learnt a lot about the internet from etherape, its a good learning tool
[09:46] <intelikey> drew mount is with  umask=0  if you like permiscues file systems.
[09:47] <drew> so how do I make it writeable
[09:47] <green_earz> intelikey: ubuntu is based on debian. ubuntu get its main packages from debian unstable. for video of ubuntu and debian relationship check out mark shuttleworth talk at debconf5 >http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2005/debconf5/mpeg/2005-07-14/02-Ubuntu_Talk-Mark_Shuttleworth.mpeg
[09:47] <Illnor> hello: i'm in ubuntu.. trying to print a website in Opera browser.. does not recognize my printer even though it is installed
[09:47] <drew> or better yet how do I become owner
[09:47] <EmxBA> Illnor: really installed, configured and *really* works?
[09:47] <hmpedersen> EmxBA.. Yeah.. There you have the exact problem..
[09:47] <ompaul> drew, it is more than likely the way you are doing things that will cause you grief, you don't need to be root - use sudo
[09:48] <Illnor> EmxBA: obviously not :)
[09:48] <intelikey> drew   do a  grep -ie 'vfat' /etc/fstab    and let me see the  "one" line it gives,  i'll ammend it so you have full access.
[09:48] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: so try to solve it , you have that problem, not me
[09:48] <g-nome> how can i change priorities of processes?
[09:48] <intelikey> green_earz nice.
[09:48] <hmpedersen> Doesn't install with the correct driver.. Doesn't work with the driver that recognizes it
[09:48] <EmxBA> Illnor: hm....
[09:48] <green_earz> np
[09:48] <Illnor> System->Administration->printing with gdi driver setup is all i did
[09:48] <EmxBA> Illnot: what's your printer
[09:48] <amphi> g-nome: top is an easy way
[09:48] <Illnor> SAMSUNG ML-1710
[09:48] <amphi> g-nome: or renice
[09:48] <g-nome> how to change the priority there, amphi?
[09:48] <poimen> what file in /home/~/ is the one that tells X what windows maneger to load?
[09:49] <tanek> my external USB hard disk wont show up, any suggestions? :P
[09:49] <amphi> poimen: ~/.xsession
[09:49] <Illnor> closing and opening opera didn't do anything
[09:49] <drew> i typed it in
[09:49] <hmpedersen> The thing is, EmxBA, it just so happens, the drivers for this card according to devs are in the breezy badger.. Ralink 2500 chipset drivers..
[09:49] <g-nome> amphi, what does it do exactly, "reniced" that is?
[09:49] <intelikey> drew and ?
[09:49] <poimen> I just add startkde right?
[09:49] <poimen> or gnome-session?
[09:49] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: are they loaded at boot
[09:50] <Flannel> poimen: and, it's just ~/ for your home directory.
[09:50] <EmxBA> Illnor: try this http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/1746
[09:50] <skippy_> hmpedersen i assume you have modprobed the driver and had no luck?
[09:50] <intelikey> hehhe drew put /say  in front of it
[09:50] <drew> and it gave me a line that says "/dev/hda5    /media/hda5    vfat   defualts    0     0"
[09:50] <intelikey> k
[09:50] <DylanPierce> Can anyone here get me broadcasting to a streaming Internet radio station on a Shoutcast server? (That is, the server is already there, somewhere else, I just need to broadcast to it.)
[09:50] <EmxBA> you must setup your printer first
[09:50] <drew> k
[09:50] <drew> Ill so it with say
[09:50] <amphi> g-nome: man renice will give you some info; do you understand how nice values work?
[09:50] <EmxBA> Illnor: or this http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Samsung-ML-1710
[09:50] <skippy_> hmpedersen type "sudo modprobe rt2500" in a terminal
[09:51] <drew> it says /sat no such file of directory
[09:51] <skippy_> then "ifconfig" and "iwconfig" and see if anything shows up
[09:51] <dyla1> hi to all
[09:51] <hmpedersen> skippy, i'm gonna boot into ubuntu again now to do that
[09:51] <hmpedersen> again..
[09:51] <skippy_> ok hmpedersen try it
[09:51] <pianoboy3333> When do the edgy repositories open?
[09:51] <skippy_> the modprobe will force the driver to be inserted if its compatable
[09:51] <EmxBA> dyla1: hi!
[09:52] <Flannel> pianoboy3333: not until dapper is released, at least.
[09:52] <g-nome> amphi: not really
[09:52] <dyla1> anyone have had any problems with the nvidia-glx drivers ? if i enable them, my laptop freeze on loading xserver
[09:52] <] GoldenDragon> hmm.. should I get easyubuntu, or automatix?
[09:52] <Illnor> EmxBA: Is all of that necessary if I can print in other programs? Printing works fine in firefox, I just want to get Opera to print, because Opera > Firefox at printing IMHO
[09:52] <Flannel> ] GoldenDragon: easyubuntu.
[09:52] <hmpedersen> It'll take a few minutes as the 64-bit ubuntu hangs for 2 minutes at "Loading, please wait..."
[09:52] <] GoldenDragon> why not automatix?
[09:52] <intelikey> drew change that line to this ""/dev/hda5    /media/hda5    vfat   defaults,uid=1000,dmask=022,fmask=133    0     0"
[09:52] <Flannel> !automatix
[09:52] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[09:52] <Flannel> that's why.
[09:52] <g-nome> amphi, but how can i change priorities in terminal?
[09:52] <amphi> g-nome: the higher the nice value, the lower the priority (ie. the program is 'nicer' to others)
[09:52] <] GoldenDragon> aight.
[09:52] <EmxBA> Illnor: oh, but you said that you haven't setup your printer
[09:52] <intelikey> drew use sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[09:52] <EmxBA> if you have made it work
[09:52] <skippy_> hmpenderson, you should type "dmesg" at a terminal and see what it is thats causing the delay
[09:52] <EmxBA> then you just have to configure it in firefox
[09:53] <amphi> g-nome: -19 is highest priority, 19 is the lowest
[09:53] <intelikey> or gksudo gedit /etc/fstab    if you like
[09:53] <Illnor> EmxBA: Why would I configure it in Firefox? It's Opera I want to be able to print in
[09:53] <amphi> g-nome: non-root users cannot decrease the nice value (increase the priority) of a process
[09:53] <DylanPierce> Nobody here knows anything about Internet streaming radio?
[09:53] <stefan> Hello
[09:53] <] GoldenDragon> !easyubuntu
[09:53] <EmxBA> Illnor: oh sorry, i meant *Opera*
[09:53] <ubotu> hmm... easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[09:53] <drew> woah it gave me alot of stuff
[09:54] <hmpedersen> EmxBA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500?highlight=%28WifiDocs%29%7C%28ManufacturerModel%29%7C%28AND%29
[09:54] <Illnor> EmxBA: I'm sorry I'm confusing you so much :) The printer is not available in opera.. not even an option. just no printers there. I didn't know if there was some esoteric setting needed
[09:54] <amphi> g-nome: top is a fullscreen textmode prog that you can renice a process with
[09:54] <drew> which line do u want
[09:55] <EmxBA> Illnor: :D then just use better browser
[09:55] <EmxBA> for example, Firefox :D
[09:55] <DylanPierce> Okay, I'm afraid it's going to be back to Windows for me. Sorry, guys. I tried, but if the apps aren't out there, they just aren't out there.
[09:55] <drew> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     vfat    defaults
[09:55] <skippy_> what apps do you want?
[09:55] <drew> thats the line of the partition I want to write
[09:55] <sindrum> flash
[09:55] <intelikey> drew use sudo gedit /etc/fstab    and  drew change that line to this ""/dev/hda5    /media/hda5    vfat    defaults,uid=1000,dmask=022,fmask=133    0     0"   <---- in that file.... save and exit.    then issue this command      sudo umount /media/hda5 && sudo mount /media/hda5
[09:55] <amphi> Illnor: or w3m ;)
[09:55] <Illnor> EmxBA: Have you tried printing in Firefox vs. Opera? Opera automatically shrinks or deletes advertisements for you, and automatically formats it so it looks nice.. Firefox prints very sloppily, printing the code for ads and such
[09:55] <DylanPierce> skippy_ I need to broadcast to a shoutcast internet streaming radio station.
[09:55] <skippy_> DylanPierce open synaptic and search for keywords
[09:56] <EmxBA> EmxBA: no, i don't have printer :D
[09:56] <pianoboy3333> Flannel: I just wanna screw my system up so bad... nah, I bought a test hard drive really
[09:56] <hmpedersen> skippy: Nuffin
[09:56] <DylanPierce> skippy_ I have, installed several things which seemed promising, but nothing does what I need.
[09:56] <Illnor> amphi: w3m is another browser I should try?
[09:56] <amphi> Illnor: console mode browser - no ads ever ;)
[09:56] <skippy_> whats the windows program you use Dylan?
[09:56] <DylanPierce> skippy_ SAM3 Broadcaster.
[09:56] <tdn> Will the new Ubuntu release support wireless networking with WPA?
[09:57] <intelikey> drew alternatively one could  just add    umask=0  to the line..... but that's sloppy.   hehhe vfat is sloppy tho
[09:57] <igorzolnikov> How can i install Opera 9 beta 2?
[09:57] <igorzolnikov> for Ubuntu 6.06
[09:57] <EmxBA> Illnor: try lynx :D or  links
[09:57] <intelikey> links2 -g
[09:58] <Illnor> igorzolnikov: are you on i386 or 64 bit?
[09:58] <Flannel> igorzolnikov: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions, until the 1st.
[09:58] <alemur> freebsd uber alles, uber alles freebsd!
[09:58] <g-nome> amphi thanks
[09:58] <fourat> i have to run alsaconf to setup my soundcard on each reboot, why it doesnt save the conf and get it working at reboot
[09:58] <igorzolnikov> i386
[09:58] <EmxBA> fourat: it should, indeeed
[09:58] <Illnor> opera is easy on i386.. ok then.. well.. you want to upgrade to the beta above and beyond the 'sudo apt-get install opera' ?
[09:58] <amphi> g-nome: yw
[09:59] <Illnor> or is that the command you were looking for?
[09:59] <drew> k just mounted it back
[09:59] <g-nome> amphi: how can i concretely change the priority with "sudo top" for a process, let's say id 33333 ?
[09:59] <Blippe> NCTCP Blippe VERSION
[09:59] <Morrowyn> when is dapperdrake exactly going to be released?
[09:59] <Flannel> Morrowyn: june 1st.
[09:59] <amphi> g-nome: hit r, type the PID, and the new nice value
[09:59] <EmxBA> Morrowyn: on 1 june
[09:59] <drew> sweet it worked
[09:59] <Morrowyn> june 1st, sweet :D
[09:59] <intelikey> of course
[10:00] <Morrowyn> i was hoping for it
[10:00] <amphi> g-nome: type the pid & hit enter that is
[10:00] <EmxBA> Morrowyn: order free ubuntu from shipit.ubuntu.com, it is shipping
[10:00] <g-nome> ampih: how can i scroll?
[10:00] <Krpano> quick question.......what is the command line for DELETE and RENAME on the terminal.....sry for the dumb question
[10:00] <Illnor> what visual adjustments to gnome do you guys think makes ubuntu look more beautiful?
[10:01] <Dkt> If I am supposed to move something from my home-folder ( /home/frantic) to "~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Warcraft3/" , how should I write? I have tried following: "mv "/home/frantic/war3.exe" "~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Warcraft3/" but it doesnt work.
[10:01] <skippy_> DylanPierce from what I can see you are out of luck, linux supports icecast broadcasting, but because shoutcast is proprietary i doubt linux will be of use for it
[10:01] <DylanPierce> skippy_ Yes, that's more or less the conclusion I was arriving at.
[10:01] <EmxBA> Dkt: mv -r
[10:01] <loco_gr> Krpano, rm for delete and mv for rename
[10:01] <Morrowyn> oh nice :D
[10:01] <tmbg37> hello, ever since I apt-get upgraded this morning, emacs's fonts have shrunk for some reason
[10:01] <Morrowyn> thanks EmxBA
[10:01] <tmbg37> does anyone know why this would happen?
[10:01] <Krpano> loco_gr , thx
[10:01] <whiter> anyone know how to make a panel without the two side controls
[10:02] <whiter> i want it to be a mac osx like panel without the two arrow things on the end
[10:02] <EmxBA> tmbg37. not your flok
[10:02] <JIV> hi, is here anybody from CZE, SVK? i need help..
[10:02] <LoCusF> whiter: in gnome?
[10:02] <DylanPierce> skippy_ Unfortunately, I don't have a choice on Shoutcast broadcasting, it's what I do for a living. If I can't get on the air, I don't get paid.
[10:02] <whiter> LoCusF yea
[10:02] <LoCusF> whiter: you gotta modify the sources
[10:02] <skippy_> yeah I think you will be stuck with windows then Dylan
[10:02] <skippy_> :(
[10:02] <LoCusF> whiter: and then compile your own panel
[10:02] <EmxBA> JIV: i think there's CZE IRC channel
[10:03] <whiter> :\
[10:03] <tmbg37> oh yeah, I'm running dapper
[10:03] <LoCusF> whiter: I have done that btw :)
[10:03] <g-nome> amphi: it worked, however i don't know how to scoll the processes and is there a function to sort them?
[10:03] <intelikey> whiter configure the panel  remove them
[10:03] <loco_gr> whiter, right click on panel and uncheck the selection "Show hide buttons"
[10:03] <loco_gr> whiter, right click on panel and uncheck the selection "Show hide buttons"
[10:03] <whiter> that doesnt work loco_gr
[10:03] <whiter> theres still two side things
[10:03] <DylanPierce> skippy_ It's too bad, really, because Ubuntu has really impressed me in most other areas. But, I like to get paid because I enjoy occasional meals.
[10:03] <g-nome> what's the difference between "top" and "ps aux"
[10:03] <Dkt> EmxBA, didnt help tought =/
[10:03] <intelikey> whiter it works in kde....
[10:03] <Flannel> DylanPierce: icecast clients are shoutcast compatable.  So you can broadcast to shoutcast servers.
[10:03] <EmxBA> Dkt: sorry
[10:03] <skippy_> well you can always use linux recreationally, and just do your shoutcasting from windows
[10:04] <drew> how come when I tried to run an file it says permission denied
[10:04] <Dkt> EmxBA, the flag doesnt exists it says =/
[10:04] <Flannel> tmbg37: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[10:04] <drew> and Im super use
[10:04] <drew> user*
[10:04] <tmbg37> thanks flannel
[10:04] <skippy_> or you could buy VMware and run a windows 2k virtual machine for shoutcasting
[10:04] <DylanPierce> flannel Yes, that's what I keep seeing written in the documentation, but I've yet to hear from anyone who claims to have actually done it.
[10:04] <EmxBA> Dkt: i though it exists
[10:04] <Illnor> What is the command to uninstall automatix?
[10:04] <intelikey> drew because the fmask=133
[10:04] <intelikey> files are non executable
[10:04] <drew> well I want to be able to run stuff
[10:04] <Dkt> EmxBA, It maybie exists, but it wasnt a guilty flag it says.
[10:04] <intelikey> would you like to change that ?
[10:04] <intelikey> k
[10:04] <drew> yes plz
[10:05] <loco_gr> Illnor, sudo apt-get remove automatix
[10:05] <Flannel> DylanPierce: I don't understand what the problem is?  You just broadcast to the server.  Nothing to it.
[10:05] <EmxBA> Dkt: then sorry, i just *thought*
[10:05] <LoCusF> whiter: first: sudo apt-get build-deps gnome-panel
[10:05] <intelikey> change the fmask=133 to fmask=033
[10:05] <drew> k
[10:05] <Dkt> EmxBA, No problems.
[10:05] <EmxBA> Dkt: ok
[10:05] <whiter> k
[10:05] <intelikey> drew and remount as before
[10:05] <LoCusF> whiter: then sudo apt-get source gnome-panel
[10:05] <Morrowyn> weee, i ordered some, gonna feed them to some friends whomight wanna try linux but are still hesitant and scared by it
[10:05] <DylanPierce> flannel In theory, perhaps, but in actual practice, it doesn't work. I've used Ices, MuSE and a couple of others, and they install fine... and then do nothing.
[10:05] <Flannel> DylanPierce: "do nothing"?
[10:06] <Illnor> Will we be able to easily upgrade from breezy to drake?
[10:06] <skippy_> lol
[10:06] <DylanPierce> flannel With Ices, literally nothing. It sits there. With MuSE, it gives me a half-error message.
[10:06] <Flannel> LoCusF: why on earth does he need to do that? (modify source) there's a configuration opton.
[10:06] <Flannel> Illnor: yeah, single command, and a few clicks.
[10:06] <EmxBA> intelikey: vfat sucks, anyway, why anyone should use it
[10:06] <LoCusF> Flannel: it doesn't remove all of the sides
[10:06] <intelikey> drew you do know that you have to use something like wine or cedega to exec win32 files.  no ?
[10:07] <drew> its not a win32 files
[10:07] <tbenita> hi, I have an issue with gnome and the auto mount process : with the ubuntu kernel it mounts fine and I can click on the gnome icon in order to access the volume ;
[10:07] <Illnor> Flannel: What will the command be when it is released?
[10:07] <gambit> how do i move a folder to trash if permission denied?
[10:07] <drew> its a linux excutable
[10:07] <intelikey> EmxBA for a transfer location accessable to xp and *nix
[10:07] <Flannel> whiter: If you want to make it look like OSX, I believe most people remove those panels entirely, and use some other things, gdesklets, etc to do that.
[10:07] <tbenita> with my custom kernel it also mounts fine, but if I click on the volume icon it tries to re-mount it
[10:07] <Flannel> !tell Illnor about upgrade
[10:08] <intelikey> drew ok.  <shrugs/>
[10:08] <Flannel> Illnor: that page (dapper upgrades one) will give you all the details
[10:08] <tbenita> is there any patch or option needed for the auto mount process ?
[10:08] <EmxBA> intelikey: yes, but ext2 or ext3 or reiser, they are better with *nix, though they don't work on winblows
[10:08] <neoncode> How do I open a password-protected(at least I think it is) .rar file?
[10:08] <intelikey> EmxBA i agree.
[10:08] <drew> let me see if I can open it now
[10:08] <EmxBA> intelikey: whichone do you use
[10:08] <Thlayli_> neoncode: unrar e yourfile.rar
[10:08] <Thlayli_> it should prompt for a password
[10:09] <neoncode> Thlayli_: right...
[10:09] <intelikey> EmxBA although there is a e2fsexplorer or something one can use in M$ env
[10:09] <Illnor> should I upgrade to this 6.06 LTS ?
[10:09] <intelikey> EmxBA ext2
[10:09] <EmxBA> intelikey: yes, but it can only read
[10:09] <EmxBA> you cant write
[10:09] <grogoreo> hi
[10:09] <tbenita> I have a 'mount error' '/dev/sda1 is already mounted on /media/usbdisk' 'Error : cannot execute pmount' Any idea ?
[10:09] <grogoreo> how can I change the current language?
[10:09] <intelikey> EmxBA but *nix can read ntfs  so  copy from....   not to....
[10:10] <grogoreo> I've installed two langauges
[10:10] <Flannel> Illnor: once it's released, I actually think you won't need to do any commands, you'll be asked if you want to upgrade during your normal updates.
[10:10] <skippy_> intelikey, sad as it is M$ Fat32 is still the best way to share data between linux and windows
[10:10] <SurfnKid> hey gus how do i list only directories with the ls command i cant find it in the --help
[10:10] <EmxBA> intelikey: but Winblows can't read anything than fat and ntfs
[10:10] <EmxBA> shippy_: i really agree
[10:10] <skippy_> NTFS can be written in linux, but it has issues
[10:10] <jeff_> How can I change my "Computer Name"
[10:10] <intelikey> EmxBA read my eariler post  about e2fsexplorer
[10:11] <drew> okay so how do I see the programs gui
[10:11] <EmxBA> jeff_ ;:you mean hostname
[10:11] <intelikey> EmxBA M$ can read ext# fs
[10:11] <EmxBA> intelikey: not by default
[10:11] <EmxBA> some drivers are needed, IMHo best is e2fsexplorer (ext*)
[10:11] <hmpedersen> I have to give up. There is nuffin else left to try.
[10:11] <intelikey> drew file manager   navagate to /media/hda5
[10:12] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: have you solved network problems with wireless
[10:12] <hmpedersen> PLenty of times before
[10:12] <hmpedersen> But I need a linux system.. I have no choice but to install the only other distro I have..
[10:12] <g-nome> what's the difference between "top" and "ps aux"
[10:13] <skippy_> hmpendersen, what other distro do you have?#
[10:13] <Illnor> Has anyone installed ximian on ubuntu?
[10:13] <jeff_> HELLO Mates - Question, please "HOW CAN I CHANGE MY COMPUTER NAME"
[10:13] <hmpedersen> I swore i would never touch that piece of.... again.. :(
[10:13] <intelikey> g-nome top is a running app ps prints and exits
[10:13] <Flannel> g-nome: ps aux gives you a list of what's running, top orders them in their usage, and is real time.
[10:13] <intelikey> g-nome i like pstree
[10:13] <EmxBA> jeff_: hostname <computer name>
[10:13] <EmxBA> in console
[10:13] <eshowl> hey guys, i am woundring how to get my wacom tablet working on my dapper 6.06?
[10:13] <jeff_> EmxBA  - cheers!
[10:13] <Flannel> eshowl: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support, until the 1st.
[10:13] <Irelandshope> I am running dapper 6.06 on a pretty fast machine 2.26Ghz Pentium M 2GB ram but even in an idle state the system monitor is shown CPU at 50-70% any ideas?
[10:14] <Flannel> Irelandshope: you too.
[10:14] <g-nome> intelikey: yes it's nice indeed, however is there a way of showing the pid?
[10:14] <intelikey> g-nome yes.  man pstree
[10:14] <EmxBA> Irelanshope: ....no
[10:14] <eshowl> Flannel: you mean go the #ubuntu+1 chanel?
[10:14] <Flannel> eshowl: yeah, that's dapper support for the moment.
[10:14] <s00ty> How can I make my ubuntu use less resources. It seems to be bloated, even though I have just installed it
[10:14] <gnomefreak> ps aux will ouput pid's
[10:14] <skippy_> s00ty download "BUM" from synaptic
[10:15] <intelikey> g-nome also  pidof   is handy for killing things, or renicing them.
[10:15] <amphi> s00ty: how did you discover this 'bloat'? memory usage?
[10:16] <g-nome> intelikey: how does that work, pidof. ? and how to show pid of pstree? can you please give me the option?
[10:16] <skippy_> also s00ty, take a look at this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491&highlight=feel+boot+process
[10:16] <gr3yj4y> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491&highlight=feel+boot+pr
[10:16] <gr3yj4y>           ocess
[10:16] <gr3yj4y> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491&highlight=feel+boot+pr
[10:16] <gr3yj4y>           ocess
[10:16] <skippy_> g-nome, every running process has a thread id called a "pid"
[10:16] <g-nome> i know
[10:16] <puff> so I'm here in winxp because ubuntu for some reason doesn't see the wireless here.
[10:16] <EmxBA> gr3yj4y: don't spam us
[10:16] <EmxBA> please
[10:17] <puff> I suspect that it may be that it's latching onto one of the secured wireless etworks in the area and not onto the public network.
[10:17] <jeff_> I cannot believe how great this distro is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:17] <puff> What can I do to control this?
[10:17] <puff> jeff_: It does indeed rock.
[10:17] <g-nome> but how to know the pid of some processes with pidof or pstree?
[10:17] <rixxon> jeff_: oh, you noticed. :>
[10:17] <jeff_> puff: blows me away....
[10:17] <hmpedersen> jeff, yeah. you won't find anything better
[10:18] <rixxon> hmpedersen: have you tried every single alternative? :)
[10:18] <skippy_> g-nome if you see for example syslogd on your pstree then type "pidof syslogd" to get the pid
[10:18] <EmxBA> jeff_: ubuntu is really perfect distro for human beings
[10:18] <jeff_> I have tried EVERYTHING....from fc3 to suse,,,UBUNTU is AM_AZING !
[10:18] <[dylan] > back
[10:18] <hmpedersen> rixxon yes
[10:18] <skippy_> g-gome you can then type for example "kill 3324" to kill that process
[10:18] <EmxBA> jeff_: ubuntu really rocks
[10:18] <puff> So speaking of human beings, any advice on my wireless question?
[10:18] <hmpedersen> All i have left is the best and the worst
[10:18] <rixxon> hmpedersen: "ok" :P
[10:18] <[dylan] > jeff_: yes.. apart that i've nvidia problems :D
[10:18] <hmpedersen> And I can tell you.. Xandros is -THE- worst os ever!
[10:18] <g-nome> skippy_ and what's "killall" for?
[10:18] <[dylan] > can anyone help me with nvidia drivers.. even with easyubuntu they keeps hanging hard my laptop once switched on
[10:19] <skippy_> g-nome i believe it kills all processes with a matching name rather than a pid, but im not too sure
[10:19] <amphi> puff: does iwlist scan show several networks?
[10:19] <skippy_> g-nome it would be good if one process spawned loads of pids and you wanted to kill em all quickly
[10:19] <puff> g-nome it's effectively ps | fgrep targetname | xargs kill
[10:19] <hmpedersen> But atleast Xandros works with all the hardware i have :(
[10:19] <puff> amphi:  Yes.
[10:20] <drew> how do I run this app
[10:20] <amphi> puff: so configure the essid channel etc with iwconfig
[10:20] <g-nome> ok
[10:20] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: have you tried arch linux
[10:20] <EmxBA> great distro
[10:20] <skippy_> hey g-nome give "top" a try, i find that i only ever want to kill stuff which makes it onto the top list
[10:20] <skippy_> so its a quick way of doing it
[10:20] <puff> amphi hm, Okay, I'll give that a shot.
[10:20] <amphi> g-nome: top is quite handy for renicing progs
[10:21] <skippy_> yeah i love "top"
[10:21] <hmpedersen> EmxBA, sounds like something from Airwolf
[10:21] <puff> g-nome: Generally you don't *want* to kill any process, but sometimes you have to.
[10:21] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: so you haven't, right
[10:21] <amphi> puff: once associated, dhclient <iface> or ifconfig <iface> to configure the interface
[10:21] <puff> Somtimes software is coded such that there is no UI optionf or killing it.
[10:21] <egkamp>  I'm having trouble changing system variables.  It seems that changes that I make to ~/.bash_profile will show up in a linux console, but not in an xterm.
[10:21] <drew> can somebody help me with visual boy advance
[10:21] <skippy_> ok guys, i have a question - does anyone know how the initial modules are chosen to match your hardware? is there some sort of autodetect process run at bootup?
[10:21] <EmxBA> skippy_: make a great swap partition and it will be much faster
[10:22] <EmxBA> drew: me
[10:22] <puff> A normal kill without any paramters (e.g. "kill 34322"), aka a "soft kill" is actually a standard way of asking the process to shut down.
[10:22] <Poker> hello...how solve this problem? debsig: Origin Signature check failed. This deb might not be signed
[10:22] <drew> ok
[10:22] <hmpedersen> Couldn't possibly be as bad as this piece of .... i'm installing right now!
[10:22] <drew> I unextracted the folder
[10:22] <EmxBA> drew: i had visual-boy-advance for linux
[10:22] <amphi> "Gentoo Linux causes global warming!", heh
[10:22] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: what
[10:22] <EmxBA> drew: it is available in source
[10:22] <puff> A kill -9, aka a "hard kill" yanks the rug out from underneath the process.
[10:22] <hmpedersen> arch linux
[10:22] <EmxBA> .tar.gz
[10:22] <JIV> hi, im noob, how to delete files in terminal?
[10:22] <drew> I know
[10:22] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: great
[10:22] <drew> how do I run it
[10:22] <amphi> JIV: rm
[10:22] <JIV> tnx
[10:23] <EmxBA> JIV: rm <file>
[10:23] <hmpedersen> It couldn't possibly be as bad as Xan...s
[10:23] <skippy_> JIV use rm but be very careful
[10:23] <EmxBA> *file*
[10:23] <puff> JIV:  Rule number one:  never, ever, ever enter "rm -rf *"
[10:23] <skippy_> JIV especially beware of -r flag
[10:23] <puff> JIV:  That command will basically delete anything and everything witout asking you.
[10:23] <amphi> JIV: rm -i is a PITA but safer ;)
[10:23] <jeff_> what chat clients are u guys using ?
[10:23] <T-CAN> is there anyway i can view the files on a windows partition that i have on my slave hdd?
[10:23] <amphi> jeff_: irssi
[10:23] <Poker> hello...how solve this problem? debsig: Origin Signature check failed. This deb might not be signed
[10:23] <Flannel> !tell T-CAN about NTFS
[10:23] <hmpedersen> jeff: xchat
[10:23] <skippy_> hehe i lost a root partition from a misplaced slash at the end of a recursive delete
[10:23] <drew> I ran ./visualboyadvance
[10:23] <Flannel> T-CAN: read your message from ubotu
[10:23] <drew> and it made  this long list of options
[10:23] <puff> JIV:  Rule #2, whenever using wildcards  always do "ls pattern" first, then do "rm pattern"
[10:23] <EmxBA> JIV: when you delete files in console they wont be sent to "trash"
[10:24] <EmxBA> drew: if you have wine
[10:24] <jeff_> how can you get that "user: " when you speak to someone directly..that's brilliant
[10:24] <Noah0504> Does anyone know how I can run BitTorrent in the terminal?
[10:24] <EmxBA> try visual boy advance for windows :D
[10:24] <drew> I hve tried it
[10:24] <brandon> is there an apt command for deleting all of the downloaded debs int he cache?
[10:24] <puff> EmxBA: Hm, funny that, maybe ubuntu should have a trashcan-oriented delete command?
[10:24] <skippy_> JIV a good trick is "gksudo nautilus" will let you delete anything using the gui
[10:24] <amphi> puff: you could write a shell func
[10:24] <T-CAN> thanks
[10:24] <drew> but I want to run this one
[10:24] <EmxBA> puff: you should suggest that to ubuntu  edgy etch :D
[10:24] <Flannel> brandon: apt-get clean or apt-get autoclean
[10:24] <puff> amphi:  Yeah, would probably be a good idea.
[10:25] <EmxBA> drew; just wait me to find a link
[10:25] <g-nome> thanks for explanations, puff
[10:25] <EmxBA> trust me, i have set it up
[10:25] <aLd> noah0504: btdownloadcurses
[10:25] <puff> Just have it move it to /tmp/trash/path-encoded-in-filename.
[10:25] <pouet> how to read dvd with totem gstreamer ?
[10:25] <puff> As for irc clients, I use emacs :-).
[10:25] <amphi> puff: or ~/shell_trash or whatever, perhaps - /tmp gets cleaned up at boot time IIRC
[10:26] <amphi> puff: er, ~/.shell_trash
[10:26] <firezip_> Does anybody know where I can download the winamp Presents from XMMS?
[10:26] <firezip_> for*
[10:26] <Noah0504> aLd: Yay!  Thanks a million.  I've been trying forever to figure out what to call up in the terminal!
[10:26] <skippy_> pouet i think you need to use totem xine. Have you followed the wiki guide to get the codecs and unlocks?
[10:26] <Cooner750> Hello. I installed KDE and am using it now, applications like this, XChat, Firefox, etc.. are all really ugly. What to do?
[10:27] <firezip_> !XMMS Presents
[10:27] <ubotu> firezip_: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:27] <EmxBA> Cooner750: how do you mean
[10:27] <aLd> Noah: Cool glad you got that sorted
[10:27] <pouet> skippy_: I have what is needed for totem xine, I was wondering for totem gstreamer
[10:27] <pouet> skippy_: that's bad to have it as default
[10:27] <hmpedersen> EmxBA, they look not as pretty as in gnome..
[10:28] <hmpedersen> I tried it 4 months ago..
[10:28] <firezip_> does anybody know where I can get winamp presents for XMMS?!
[10:28] <Cooner750> All of the apps like Firefox and XChat look like Windows 9x
[10:28] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: well, i know that from before, gnome was always better than KDE :D
[10:28] <skippy_> pouet, i dont think gstreamer is capable of it yet im afraid
[10:28] <pouet> skippy_: ah
[10:28] <EmxBA> Cooner750: try #kubuntu, maybe you have set redmond KDE theme
[10:28] <EmxBA> :D
[10:28] <hmpedersen> EmxBA, you will get no arguement from me there ;)
[10:28] <JIV> i going to use   aptitude install <kernel>   , but what i must set to <kernel> ?
[10:28] <skippy_> i think you could keep totem with gstreamer, and just install the xine program on its own to watch dvds though
[10:28] <EmxBA> JIV: version
[10:28] <brandon> Cooner750: the gnome apps can be kde-ized using system settings==>appearance==>GTK styles and fonts. set it to use my kde style in gtk applications
[10:29] <EmxBA> hmpedersen: so, dou you like gnome
[10:29] <hmpedersen> No. I don't like Gnome.. I hate KDE..
[10:29] <JIV> EmxBA: ok but which..
[10:29] <Cooner750> brandon: That option is not there
[10:29] <_jason> is it possible for me to download linux-headers-2.6.15-22-686.deb from some location?
[10:29] <Cooner750> I remember installing something on my other computer to get that option
[10:30] <brandon> yeah, i'm not sure what it is
[10:30] <hmpedersen> too bad xan is kde only :(
[10:30] <brandon> try installing the metapackages like "kde" and "kubuntu-desktop"
[10:30] <g-nome> Cooner: you probably don't like gnome interface
[10:31] <JIV> i going to use   aptitude install <kernel>   , can me tell anybody which number of kernel?
[10:31] <g-nome> it's normal, i was too like that but one day *bang* i begin to like it more and more... strange isn't it?
[10:32] <aLPHa_LeaK> JIV: what do you want to install, kernel header or source or what?
[10:32] <JIV> EmxBA: ok but which number of kernel?..
[10:32] <EmxBA> drew: you need http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/vba/VisualBoyAdvance-1.7.1-SDL-linux-glibc22.tar.gz?download
[10:32] <EmxBA> and glibc
[10:32] <EmxBA> with SDL
[10:32] <EmxBA> JIV: ubuntu default is 2.6.15
[10:32] <g-nome> btw, i have the same "problem" as Cooner750, when opening some programs in root, they become grey and not themed
[10:33] <JIV> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "2.6.15"
[10:33] <JIV>     :((
[10:33] <JIV> aLPHa_LeaK: kernel..new
[10:33] <Stork> is there any way to scp un-securely?
[10:33] <EmxBA> you may want to upgrade kernel to 2.6.16.18
[10:33] <_jason> JIV: aptitude search linux-image   will show you the kernels you can install
[10:34] <EmxBA> JIV: try _jason's advice
[10:34] <ollo82> my gnome splash screen doesnt disappear when is start xgl
[10:34] <crazy_penguin> good night everybody. pleasent dreams! :)
[10:34] <skippy_> ollo82 i had the same problem
[10:34] <whiter> is there similar applications to gdesklet?
[10:34] <ollo82> is there a hint?
[10:34] <aLPHa_LeaK> JIV: linux-`uname -r` works fine
[10:34] <skippy_> i just disabled the splash creen
[10:34] <EmxBA> ollo82:try #ubuntu-xgl
[10:34] <EmxBA> i think
[10:35] <ollo82> ok
[10:35] <Stork> _jason, you can get that kernel on breezy?
[10:35] <Dkt> How do I remove a folder? rm or something?
[10:35] <skippy_> the other option for you ollo82 is to actually run XGL first instead of loading it once x is up
[10:35] <EmxBA> rm -r <folder>
[10:35] <Dkt> ok
[10:35] <EmxBA> startxgl
[10:35] <_jason> Stork: no, I just remembered this channel was for breezy, I asked in ubuntu+1
[10:35] <Stork> _jason, ah, you confused me there :p
[10:36] <marcipano> is this channel made for  help ? could anyone help me with Crossover Office and cirrylic support?
[10:36] <EmxBA> marcipano: offtopic, where do you live
[10:36] <EmxBA> russia?
[10:36] <Stork> is there any way to scp un-securely?
[10:36] <marcipano> EmxBA, near to it :)
[10:36] <marcipano> damn Latvia
[10:36] <marcipano> :D
[10:36] <EmxBA> i live in Bosnia
[10:36] <EmxBA> we sometimes need cyrillic
[10:37] <uscg_corey> can anyone recommend a good full featured gui ftp client?
[10:37] <marcipano> oh yeah :)
[10:37] <JIV> aptitude search linux-image
[10:37] <JIV> v   linux-image                     -
[10:37] <JIV> v   linux-image-2.6                 -
[10:37] <JIV> c   linux-image-2.6.12-10-386       - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on
[10:37] <JIV> c   linux-image-2.6.12-9-386        - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on
[10:37] <JIV> v   linux-image-386       which??
[10:37] <marcipano> EmxBA, could i private you ?
[10:37] <EmxBA> gFTP
[10:37] <ollo82> skippy_: i start it with an xsession skricpt
[10:37] <EmxBA> the best
[10:37] <Stork> is there any way to transfer files from an ubuntu box to a deb box un-securely over the LAN ?
[10:37] <EmxBA> marcipano: of course
[10:37] <amphi> Stork: scp ?
[10:37] <skippy_> yeah i used to do it that way olloB2, now though i dont have a session, i load xgl instead of xorg, and then boot compiz from a script - its not advised though
[10:38] <Stork> amphi, it encrypts the data, iirc
[10:38] <petiteconne> skippy_: y insecure transfer?
[10:38] <skippy_> but it does fix the spash problem
[10:38] <amphi> Stork: what's the problem with that?
[10:38] <amphi> Stork: you could just use netcat
[10:38] <petiteconne> sry aeh Stork
[10:38] <sindrum> i use filerunner ftp
[10:38] <Stork> what's netcat?
[10:38] <aLPHa_LeaK> JIV: are you using breezy repos?
[10:38] <ollo82> skippy_: is there a guide to do it your way?
[10:39] <EmxBA> sindrum: gFTP is one of the best
[10:39] <Stork> amphi, recieving machine is slow as hell
[10:39] <amphi> Stork: netcat
[10:39] <BrianHH> Hi, everyone.  When I try to use apt-get to install anything, I get the message "
[10:39] <BrianHH> The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."  Can anyone help me nuke jre so I can get on with business?
[10:39] <JIV> aLPHa_LeaK:  ehm dunno
[10:39] <EmxBA> BrianHH: first, configure sources.list
[10:39] <NinjaDuck> hi, just using the 5.10 install cd and i keep getting an error suring install :"Unable to install initrd-tools"
[10:39] <skippy_> there is somewher on the forums, but i cant remember where, i had to steal bits from several guides, ill post you a copy of my files ollob2
[10:40] <NinjaDuck> can anyone help?
[10:40] <kyoushu> Hello
[10:40] <EmxBA> then you will be able to reinstall jre over network (need to download some files)
[10:41] <thenetduck> hey how do i rename my external hard drive?
[10:41] <skippy_> olloB2 this is my /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom file http://pastebin.com/745553
[10:41] <T-CAN> how do I mount a floppy drive?
[10:41] <EmxBA> just click once on it's icon on desktop, press F2 (rename) and set another name
[10:42] <EmxBA> T-CAN: sudo mount /dev/fd0 <somewhere>
[10:42] <BrianHH> EmxBA:  Okay, I've got sources.list open in vi.  What do I have to change?
[10:42] <elgaru> hei
[10:43] <EmxBA> i assume that they are already configured
[10:43] <blank> !sources.list
[10:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:43] <EmxBA> now, update list of available packages
[10:43] <skippy_> then i run compiz with this script http://pastebin.com/745562 ollo82
[10:43] <EmxBA> yeah, ubotu said everything
[10:43] <EmxBA> add universe and multiverse rep.
[10:43] <blank> !easysource
[10:43] <Draconicus> Does anyone here know if there's a video game channel on freenode?
[10:43] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:43] <thedevilsjester>  Ok, I just followed the upgrade procedure from 5.10 to the release candidate, and besides a few hickups, everything went well, except that my 1680x1050 widescreen format that I had before the upgrade, isnt working now.  Any ideas?  I tried the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg , it didnt work either.
[10:43] <EmxBA> and then sudo apt-get install jre....
[10:43] <skippy_> ollo82 this is my /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom file http://pastebin.com/745553 linked again because i spelt your name wrong before
[10:44] <puff> amphi Well, that didn't work.
[10:44] <amphi> puff: what didn't work?
[10:45] <amphi> puff: essid channel/freq mode etc are correct?
[10:45] <puff> iwconfig essid essidname
[10:45] <puff> it's not getting a response from dhcp requests.
[10:45] <amphi> puff: channel? mode?
[10:45] <puff> AFAIK they're correct.
[10:46] <puff> I guess I can go back and go through each detail and check it.
[10:46] <puff> What bugs me is that it used to work just fine... not sure wht changed.
[10:46] <BrianHH> Okay, I found a line in the sources.list with multiverse in it, so I uncommented that.
[10:46] <puff> It's annoying doing this with one dual-boot machine.
[10:46] <puff> I need to borrow somebody's machine and then just run them simultaneously.
[10:47] <amphi> puff: perhaps you have something like waproamd running that's trying to associate to the wrong network?
[10:47] <EmxBA> BrianHH: anyway, after editing sources.list just type sudo apt-get update to update list of available packages
[10:47] <puff> Possibly, I don't recall installing waproamd, are there packages that depend on it?
[10:47] <amphi> dunno
[10:47] <HillTop> Is xubuntu set to release on June 1??  I rtried the livecd and it didn't look like it was very close to release. I think it wouild be ideal for an old P450 I have .
[10:48] <will-c> im having a problem upgrading to dapper, with a dpkg error processing lvm2
[10:48] <will-c> any ideas?
[10:48] <amphi> puff: the gui network config prog may be interfering?
[10:48] <BrianHH> EmxBA:  Okay, I did that.
[10:48] <NinjaDuck> hi, just using the 5.10 install cd and i keep getting an error suring install :"Unable to install initrd-tools" can anyone help?
[10:48] <EmxBA> have you updated list of packages, BrianHH
[10:48] <ollo82> skippy_: do you start the script manually or automatic?
[10:49] <will-c> NinjaDuck: sounds bad, are you sure the disk is ok?
[10:49] <BrianHH> EmxBA:  Yes, right after I edited the sources.list file, I ran apt-get update
[10:49] <Okay> hi
[10:49] <EmxBA> now, search kernel or something similar
[10:49] <EmxBA> in synaptic
[10:49] <BockBilbo> is it possible to install rockbox on any archos mp3 player?
[10:49] <puff> I should just upgrade ubuntu and try after that.
[10:49] <skippy_> ollo82 i start it manually for more control, but you could just add it to your gnome startup using the gui : "system > prefs > session"
[10:49] <NinjaDuck> will-c: this is the second disc i've tried, same problem :(
[10:49] <ollo82> ok, thx
[10:50] <skippy_> ollo82 remember the script only starts compiz, doing it my way XGL is Xwindows
[10:50] <will-c> NinjaDuck: did you try checking the checksum?
[10:50] <ollo82> skippy_: is that a problem?
[10:50] <skippy_> ollo82, so only do it my way if you dont have issues with XGL
[10:50] <skippy_> because you wont easily be able to choose between an XGL session and a normal session
[10:50] <ollo82> i dont see any issues
[10:50] <skippy_> IMO XGL is rock solid though, its only compiz that can crash
[10:51] <ollo82> but i think i try it with dont starting the splash
[10:51] <skippy_> ollo82 please mate, make backups though, and make sure you know how to restore the old file
[10:51] <Bazzi> skippy_: and ati drivers
[10:51] <thedevilsjester> XLG is...horrid...btw...I develop OGL apps and most of them dont work in XGL :(
[10:51] <ollo82> jo, thx
[10:51] <skippy_> :)
[10:51] <BrianHH> EmxBA:  I'm still getting the same error after updating.
[10:51] <EmxBA> which?
[10:51] <IBEGONE> is there anything similar to knewsticker for gnome-panel?
[10:52] <skippy_> good luck :) i recommend checking out the forums as well ollo82, theres tons of XGL threads - too many imo :P
[10:52] <amphi> thedevilsjester: great :(
[10:52] <kyoushu> Hello
[10:52] <kyoushu> Can I get support here?
[10:52] <BrianHH> EmxBA:  "The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:52] <BrianHH> "
[10:52] <NinjaDuck> will-c: k3b says the checksum is ok
[10:52] <Fire-NR> trying to install the ati drivers and i get a error, trying to install a precompiled kernel module - precompiled kernel moudle version mismatched - no kernel module build envrioment
[10:53] <Fire-NR> any ideas what that means
[10:53] <ollo82> skippy_: thats the problem and the reason why i ask here :)
[10:54] <BrianHH> Fire-NR:  That sounds like it means you're trying to install the wrong version for your kernel.
[10:54] <Fire-NR> ah :) thanks
[10:54] <Fire-NR> why didn't it just say that
[10:54] <BrianHH> Fire-NR: It kinda did, but it said it in geekspeak. ;)
[10:55] <Fire-NR> yer well we ain't all geeks, we don't all understand geeks :|
[10:55] <Fire-NR> hmm ok i'm confused :| there is only one linux driver on ati's site :Z|
[10:55] <BrianHH> Fire-NR:  Yeah, I hear ya.  That's why I'm here getting help, too. :)
[10:56] <skippy_> brb reboot
[10:56] <BrianHH> Fire-NR:  Do you have a file called ati-config?  That's what I needed to get my video card running.
[10:56] <jumli> .
[10:56] <PetrolBomb> .
[10:56] <RoninGurl> BrianHH, You know how you can get a job at geeksquad? Tell every user they need to pay you to format the computer so that you can get paid hourly for reinstalling Windowds XP.
[10:57] <PetrolBomb> WHats a windows?
[10:57] <EmxBA> PetrolBomb: LOL
[10:57] <RoninGurl> PetrolBomb, its this wonderful operating system that gets an undeserved bad rep.
[10:57] <PetrolBomb> *grin*
[10:58] <Anderson> how do I get a list of installed packages?
[10:58] <EmxBA> PetrolBomb: it's better, for you, to don't know anything about windows
[10:58] <BrianHH> Come to think of it, aticonfig isn't running for me right now, either.  Hmm...
[10:58] <EmxBA> i like to call it winblows
[10:58] <EmxBA> :D
[10:58] <gnomefreak> Anderson: synaptic
[10:58] <MyNameIsNotBob> Did anyone else in here have problems with users when installing Dapper Drake?
[10:58] <LasseL> (it's the one that has games folks)
[10:58] <amphi> Anderson: dpkg -l | grep '^ii'
[10:58] <Anderson> gnomefreak, I'm looking for CLI outputs
[10:59] <Anderson> thanks
[10:59] <gnomefreak> MyNameIsNotBob: try #ubuntu+1 might get better responce
[10:59] <EmxBA> MyNameIsNotBob: i haven't
[10:59] <RoninGurl> brb
[10:59] <gnomefreak> me neither btw
[10:59] <amphi> Anderson: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | less is perhaps better
[10:59] <jmedina> hi there
[11:00] <BrianHH> Fire-NR:  The file is called aticonfig, not ati-config.  It might work for you.
[11:00] <Stork> what's the command for seeing how much HDD space you have
[11:00] <jmedina> I want to change my network configs in the console
[11:00] <amphi> Stork: df [-h] 
[11:00] <jmedina> I edited my file /etc/network/interfaces
[11:00] <EmxBA> jmedina: what exactly
[11:00] <NinjaDuck> this sounds like an silly question, but how do i install with the dapper cd, it just goes to a command line when i click the Install button
[11:00] <chaos_of_apocaly> could anyone tell me wich proxy can i use in MSN and IRC?
[11:00] <jmedina> changed the IP but when I run /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:00] <jmedina> doesnt works
[11:01] <EmxBA> NinjaDuck: which version
[11:01] <EmxBA> flight or first beta versions
[11:01] <jumli> Hi, i have two domains... say i have "abc1.com" and "abc2.com" - on "abc2.com" i use ns1.afraid.org as an name-server... is it possible to use for example ns1.abc2.com as an CNAME to "ns1.afraid.org" and then use "ns1.abc2.com" as name-server for "abc.com"? Do anyone understands me?
[11:01] <NinjaDuck> the most recent beta one
[11:01] <jmedina> EmxBA, what is the correct command to change the ip?
[11:01] <jmedina> I know I can use ifconfig, and route
[11:01] <jmedina> but I want to use it in the ubuntu way
[11:01] <EmxBA> yeah, ifconfig and route
[11:02] <EmxBA> what exactly
[11:02] <jmedina> EmxBA, I want to change the IP address
[11:02] <[dylan] > none have ever had complete pc freeze when trying to load nvidia drivers?
[11:02] <RobNyc> !mp3
[11:02] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:02] <jmedina> Im moving from one net to other
[11:02] <majd> what should i use to burn iso files?
[11:02] <mirak> I am a bit tired by the nvidia driver from restricted modules that breaks after some upgrades. how is that possible ? isn't the restricted package bound to the appropriate kernel ?
[11:02] <EmxBA> majd: cdrecord, or Ubuntu CD creator
[11:03] <LasseL> jmedina, did you try System > Administration > Networking ?
[11:03] <wulax> majd: or gnomebaker or graveman
[11:03] <glick> hehe i think i just found a big bug in either X or the firefox or the kernel itself
[11:03] <NinjaDuck> EmxBA: i am trying to install the LTS
[11:03] <Stork> crap
[11:04] <Stork> how do i find and mount a 2nd hard drive from the command line?
[11:04] <EmxBA> NinjaDuck: live or install CD
[11:04] <jmedina> LasseL, I dont have X
[11:04] <gepatino_> anyone here with experience in LTSP 4.2 ?
[11:04] <LasseL> jmedina, all the more reason to get it :p
[11:05] <LasseL> jmedina, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:05] <Stork> how do i find and mount a 2nd hard drive from the command line?
[11:05] <NinjaDuck> EmxBA: i;ve found where i went wrong, i was running a live cd, i thought Desktop would be the install
[11:05] <NinjaDuck> thanks
[11:05] <BrianHH> Okay, JRE completely ****ed my system.  Is there any way to nuke it without using apt-get?  Apt seems to be DOA.
[11:06] <EmxBA> NinjaDuck: I had several problems with espresso (Ubuntu installer, it opens when you click on "install")
[11:06] <jumli> Hi, i have two domains... say i have "abc1.com" and "abc2.com" - on "abc2.com" i use ns1.afraid.org as an name-server... is it possible to use for example ns1.abc2.com as an CNAME to "ns1.afraid.org" and then use "ns1.abc2.com" as name-server for "abc.com"? Do anyone understands me?
[11:06] <Dawei> ! JRE
[11:06] <ubotu> Dawei: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:06] <gepatino_> !ltsp
[11:06] <ubotu> [ltsp]  the Linux Terminal Server Project - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto (for Breezy), https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPHowTo (pre Breezy).  See also http://www.ltsp.org/
[11:06] <Jowi> jumli: doesn't a cname need to point to an a-record?
[11:07] <Stork> how do i find and mount a 2nd hard drive from the command line?
[11:07] <jmedina> LasseL, I edited that file
[11:07] <SurfnKid> ok this isnt making any sense... im on a directory with executables and they arent responding to my commands, any suggestions
[11:07] <jmedina> and ran /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:07] <jmedina> but nothing
[11:07] <jmedina> I have tried stop, start
[11:07] <jmedina> and nothing
[11:07] <BrianHH> SurfnKid:  What do you mean by not responding?  What error did you get?
[11:07] <jumli> Jowi: ns1.abc2.se (CNAME) => ns1.afraid.org (A) => ip-addr
[11:08] <LasseL> jmedina, well that is all there is to it
[11:08] <jmedina> ?
[11:09] <wulax> SurfnKid: do you have permissions to execute them?
[11:09] <Stork> how do i find and mount a 2nd hard drive from the command line?
[11:09] <SurfnKid> Brian I have this issue with RealPlayer, when I installed the package in the SMP, it installs the shortcut in the Applications menu as 'RealPlayer' however the link doesnt work. So then I downloaded the RealPlayer10 from the real website and I installed it.... and created another link 'Real Player 10.. that one does work. I've tested it with a live file, I just want to remove the 'RealPlayer' out of the menu, but when I do so, the "RP10
[11:09] <SurfnKid> " shortcut doesnt work
[11:10] <SurfnKid> and the files are all still in the directory where I put them. so maybe its a path thing
[11:10] <LasseL> Stork, ls /dev/hd*
[11:10] <westyvw> is easybuntu still favored over automatix?
[11:11] <LasseL> Stork, sudo mkdir /mnt/newhd
[11:11] <LasseL> Stork, sudo mount /dev/hdb /mnt/newhd
[11:11] <gnomefreak> westyvw: always will be
[11:11] <SurfnKid> it says cannot launch entry Failed to execute no such file or directory
[11:11] <Stork> LasseL, ls /dev/hd* goes from hda to hdh
[11:11] <westyvw> gnomefreak: thanks
[11:12] <SurfnKid> but the directory is there /usr/bin/RealPlayer10/Player/ and all the files are here
[11:12] <BrianHH> SurfnKid:  Have you tried running realplay from the commandline?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> SurfnKid: are you cd'ed to where the file is?
[11:12] <Dkt> How do I create a folder?
[11:13] <Dkt> what command.
[11:13] <LasseL> Stork, try inspecting them with sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdX
[11:13] <gnomefreak> Dkt: mkdir
[11:13] <Dkt> gnomefreak, thanks
[11:13] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:13] <SurfnKid> i think so.. brian i ran realplay and it didnt do anything let me check again
[11:14] <Jowi> jumli: ns1.abc2.se (cname) can point to superserver.abc2.se (a-record)
[11:14] <xKintaro> Hey, I have this problem
[11:14] <SurfnKid> gnomefreak let me check ive been idling so i think the dir changed
[11:14] <xKintaro> Ubuntu really sucks
[11:14] <Stork> LasseL, hdb seems to work.. it says the system is 'Linux' and it appears to be the correct size.. how can i mount it?
[11:14] <si9o> hi all. having some trouble getting audio from mpg videos playing in Xfmedia
[11:14] <xKintaro> and you should all give up
[11:14] <xKintaro> It's like, horrible
[11:14] <xKintaro> its a crime against humanity
[11:14] <LasseL> Stork, mount /dev/hdb1 /somewhere
[11:14] <si9o> the videos themselves play fine, just dont have any audio, and can't seem to figure out why
[11:15] <SurfnKid> ok here's something weird
[11:15] <UbuntuUser> hola alguien habla espaol?
[11:15] <roast> I installed epiphany but want firefox to be default. I've set it as the default, every possible conceivable application loads firefox, _except for thunderbird_
[11:15] <PORDO> what program do i use to change the face on gdmlogin?
[11:15] <roast> where else can I check?
[11:15] <LasseL> !es
[11:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:15] <PORDO> i know i've done it before.
[11:16] <Dkt> gnomefreak, You dont know how to rename a folder?
[11:16] <Stork> LasseL, is there any way to make it auto-mount at boot?
[11:16] <SurfnKid> I ran ls Re* and it gave me RealPlayer10 and again RealPlayer10 with a Player folder within it
[11:16] <si9o> Stork, you have to edit /etc/fstab for that
[11:16] <gnomefreak> Dkt: mkdir folder newname    make sure you use the paths
[11:16] <LasseL> Stork, have you tried System > Administration > Disks
[11:16] <Stork> LasseL, no x-server
[11:16] <Dkt> gnomefreak, thanks
[11:16] <LasseL> Stork, get one
[11:16] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:16] <Stork> LasseL, no monitor...
[11:17] <Stork> si9o, what do i add?
[11:17] <LasseL> Stork, VLC
[11:17] <LasseL> Stork, VNC too
[11:17] <si9o> Stork, you want a hard drive to be auto-mounted when linux boots, right?
[11:17] <Stork> yes
[11:17] <LasseL> !fstab
[11:17] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions. See also !partitions
[11:18] <deus_> rc`
[11:18] <deus_> rc?
[11:18] <Stork> yeah i think i got it
[11:18] <si9o> sudo vim /etc/fstab
[11:18] <Stork> nano f.t.w
[11:18] <Kasper_G> anybody with experience in Maple 10? ... I have a problem when in math mode the "^" doesn't work. Can anybody help me?
[11:18] <deus_> Wait! when on the first is it going to be released?
[11:18] <Tomcat_> deus_: GOOD question ;D
[11:19] <Jowi> jumli: if you want anything else than redirecting traffic from web.server.se > main.server.se, then cname is not what you want. see if you can do a web-forward or a web-alias instead.
[11:19] <deus_> Kasper_G: i have the same problem
[11:19] <Tomcat_> deus_: Just from experience I'd say rather late.
[11:19] <si9o> you add the /dev/hdX# (X is drive letter, # is partition number) and set some options for how the drive is to be mounted
[11:19] <will-c> \leave #ubuntu
[11:19] <deus_> Kasper_G: i belive you just have to use the function menu on the left.
[11:19] <Kasper_G> deus_: ok, I have contacted some Danish support and they just tell me it isn't a supported distro. There must be a workaround??
[11:19] <Stork> si9o, what options do i need?
[11:20] <BrianHH> If I completely nuke the java directory, then reboot, will that let me use apt-get again?
[11:20] <Kasper_G> deus_: okay, I have seen it working on several other distrol ... Annoying since this is my favourite! :)
[11:20] <Jowi> jumli: so if you want to redirect web.server.se to another domain such as cool.php.com then you can not use a cname
[11:20] <si9o> Stork, it depends on what kind of drive it is: ide, scsi, or SATA?
[11:20] <Dkt> gnomefreak, and at last, how do I remove a folder?
[11:20] <deus_> Kasper_G: i managed to live with it
[11:20] <blaze> how can i remove all the KDE stuff i have?
[11:20] <Stork> si9o, ide, ext3, used for storage
[11:21] <blaze> and leave only the gnome ones
[11:21] <blaze> ?
[11:21] <deus_> oh and, RC?
[11:21] <SurfnKid> gnomefreak im on the dir where the files are and what should i type, name of the file ?
[11:21] <drew> man I never knew linux was this easy
[11:21] <blaze> how can i remove KDE ?
[11:21] <SurfnKid> Bin     common  install.log  LICENSE  plugins   README    realplay.bak  share
[11:21] <SurfnKid> codecs  doc     lib          mozilla  postinst  realplay  realplay.bin
[11:22] <Kasper_G> deus_: well... I will continue to find a workaround. Will post if I have some succes!
[11:22] <SurfnKid> realplay doesnt seem to do much
[11:22] <BrianHH> SurfnKid:  Type "./realplay" and see if it runs.
[11:22] <si9o> Stork, in that case, you'd add /dev/hdX# ext3 noatime,user 0 1
[11:23] <BrianHH> You need the ./ in front of it.
[11:23] <SurfnKid> agrr.. agrr i forgot thats how you do it.. ok works
[11:23] <si9o> Stork where X and # are specific to your hard drive
[11:23] <drew> dfmfkyug
[11:23] <SurfnKid> now how should i change that on the app menu?
[11:23] <Stork> si9o, what's noatime and user? i just used the same settings as my default hd
[11:23] <richard> any decent open source html / php programming editors like dreamweaver?
[11:24] <BrianHH> SurfnKid:  Just make sure that the shortcut on the menu points to the realplay file.
[11:24] <LasseL> richard, jedit perhaps
[11:24] <si9o> Stork, noatime speeds things up a bit, and user allows users other than root to unmount it
[11:25] <si9o> you can set the options to whatever you want
[11:25] <SurfnKid> Brian Im trying :) but I cant seem to get to the run properties
[11:25] <BrianHH> If I completely remove the java directory from my system, will anything bad happen?
[11:25] <VR_> does hp have good linux support?
[11:26] <BrianHH> SurfnKid:  Okay, let me check my system.  brb. :)
[11:26] <morpheus> please help me ubuntu lite formated my hda :(
[11:26] <rootvzla> buenas
[11:27] <BrianHH> VR_:  My laptop and printer are both HP, and they seem to work.
[11:27] <si9o> BrianHH, the worst that can happen is having to recover the system =)
[11:27] <SurfnKid> mis nalgas
[11:27] <VR_> BrianHH: how about wireless?
[11:27] <BrianHH> si9o:  That's not exactly encouraging. ;)
[11:27] <rootvzla> epale sufnkid
[11:27] <SurfnKid> hehe
[11:27] <rootvzla> hehe
[11:27] <BrianHH> VR_:  I haven't tried wireless yet.  Just got the system working well today.
[11:28] <VR_> ok
[11:28] <VR_> which lappy is it?
[11:28] <BrianHH> morpheus:  What are you trying to do?
[11:28] <rootvzla> alguien sabe el canal de ubuntu es?
[11:28] <BrianHH> vr_:  I've got a Pavillion ze2000.
[11:28] <LasseL> !es
[11:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:28] <chavo> !repos
[11:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:29] <morpheus> i'd like to see installer of ubuntu lite
[11:29] <morpheus> but he formated my hda1 and hda5 - ntfs :/
[11:29] <VR_> BrianHH: cool, thanks
[11:29] <BrianHH> morpheus:  If you're online now, can I assume that your system wasn't completely nuked?
[11:30] <BrianHH> morpheus:  Did you lose your Windows partitions?
[11:30] <morpheus> yes
[11:30] <morpheus> i'm writing from hdb1
[11:30] <marcipano> can anybody tell me , where are the cyrillic fonts are placed in linux ? (directory)
[11:31] <deus_> what does RC means?
[11:31] <skippy81> hi im having problems installing dvd::rip on dapper, it says it needs dependancys which are allready installed and when started from term says it cant find  libdl.so.2 despite the fact that the library is on my filesystem
[11:31] <BrianHH> morpheus:  I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but once you format a drive, it's pretty much gonzo.  Unfortunately, that data is gone.   :(
[11:31] <morpheus> any chance ??
[11:31] <morpheus> i've canceled until he finished
[11:31] <Poker> hello...how solve this problem? debsig: Origin Signature check failed. This deb might not be signed
[11:31] <LasseL> marcipano, I think you can find them in nautilus by entering fonts:/// in the location bar (ctrl+l)
[11:32] <LuKe-LuKe> have anybody tried to use Qemu with Kqemu accelerator on Ubuntu .... ???
[11:32] <ollo82_> morpheus: there is a chance with a professional program
[11:32] <skippy81> morpheus it will be easy to recover NTFS or Fat
[11:32] <skippy81> very easy
[11:32] <amphi> ext2 is possible
[11:32] <morpheus> so only by program for reovering files ??
[11:32] <drew> why wont limewire connect
[11:32] <pakirri> are there problems with the orinoco drivers and network manager
[11:32] <skippy81> Easy Recovery Pro is the best, but PC inspector on M$ is not bad and its free
[11:33] <SurfnKid> BrianHH how do I execute ./realplay doing a directory like /usr/bin/etc... etc..
[11:33] <skippy81> if you have only deleted the partiton then testdisk in linux could help
[11:33] <PORDO> limewire works great for me...shrug
[11:33] <BrianHH> skippy81:  That's good information.
[11:33] <BrianHH> skippy81:  Thanks. :)
[11:33] <skippy81> just dont under any circumstances write any data to the area of the disk where you data was, and NEVER defragment it
[11:33] <ericz> i tried to use some program on windows to read the linux ext2 partiton last week partiton on the same computer (i dual booted) and the program pretty much screwed the partiton
[11:34] <marcipano> LasseL, Im configuring Crossover Office , and trying to add cyrrilic support to one apliccation. There was an option , to set the dir. where fonts are located ;)
[11:34] <_JECKEL_> so who has any experience in getting things like games to run in wine?
[11:34] <alexito-> who have brain to get ubuntu looks like this http://jimmyjazz.homeip.net:808/Screenshot124.png
[11:34] <alexito-> ? lol
[11:34] <alexito-> i dont have imagination
[11:34] <_JECKEL_> like..diablo 2 maybe
[11:34] <BrianHH> SurfnKid:  You need to know what directory it's in (e.g., /usr/local/realplay) and then run the file with the full path by typing "/usr/local/RealPlayer10/realplay" (for example).
[11:34] <morpheus> skippy: what i must do with testdisk
[11:34] <_JECKEL_> or rather..how can I get wine to recognize I have a CD..or should I just get a CD crack?
[11:35] <kbrooks> Hey.
[11:36] <_JECKEL_> anybody?
[11:36] <skippy81> morpheus, testdisk can recover a deleted PARTITION, but it sounds to me like you actually formatted an existing partiton
[11:36] <BrianHH> brb.  Gonna reboot and hope I still have a system to come back to. :)
[11:36] <blaze> how to update gnome?
[11:36] <skippy81> you really are best off taking the disk out and putting it in a windows box with PC inspector or easy recovery in it
[11:36] <morpheus> i use testdisk and it find my ntfs partition :D
[11:37] <skippy81> did it?
[11:37] <SurfnKid> thats what i thought brian I got it. I need to work on my syntax  / at beginning
[11:37] <skippy81> if it did then restore the partition with test disk
[11:37] <SurfnKid> thanx for the help,
[11:37] <_JECKEL_> nobody?
[11:37] <morpheus> i hop it will work ...
[11:38] <amphi> _JECKEL_: 'cd crackz' are offtopic
[11:38] <skippy81> _JECKEL_ wine only runs a small fraction of programs, you need to google to find out if you have a chance of getting a given game working
[11:39] <canard_> Hello, my unbuntu install keeps getting stuck at 45% Configuring makdev. emm... is there a reason enybody would know for this?
[11:39] <roostishaw> anyone know of a free program like dreamwever for linux?
[11:39] <skippy81> oh and someone, please tell me how i automatically put a name of a user into IRC to save me typing it?
[11:39] <igorzolnikov> how can i disable/enable passive mode ftp... for Connect to Server...?
[11:39] <skippy81> there must be a key-click combo to do it, im using xirc
[11:40] <_JECKEL_> well...I do..the only problem is that it's being bitchy and saying that there is no CD in the drive
[11:40] <Xappe> roostishaw: the closest one I know of is NVU
[11:40] <pakirri> my orinoco silver card doesn't work with network manager in dapper? please help
[11:40] <amphi> skippy81: type a few letters and hit [tab] 
[11:40] <_JECKEL_> so i'm wondering if I should take the CD off onto an ISO...or get a CD crack and run the game from that.
[11:41] <_JECKEL_> what would be easier to do...
[11:41] <skippy81> amphi:- thankyou mate, i really should have thought of that :)
[11:41] <LuKe-LuKe> has anybody tried to use Qemu with Kqemu accelerator on Ubuntu .... ???
[11:41] <amphi> making an iso image from a cdrom is trivial; you can use dd
[11:41] <BrianHH> Well, my system survived, but I still can't use apt-get.  Same error message:  "The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[11:41] <BrianHH> "
[11:41] <amphi> skippy81: ;)
[11:42] <Antipodean> heya
[11:42] <si9o> wassup
[11:42] <canard_> Hello, my unbuntu install keeps getting stuck at 45% Configuring makdev. emm... is there a reason enybody would know for this?
[11:42] <westyvw> i asked about automatix a bit ago, you guys using it or easybuntu? mstlyevil says i am full of fud....
[11:43] <Antipodean> hey folks, I was just wondering if there was any way I could backup my installed packages to cd?
[11:43] <BrianHH> Is there a "force" option with apt-get where I could force it to remove jre?
[11:43] <BockBilbo> bueno
[11:43] <BockBilbo> me piro
[11:43] <BockBilbo> bye
[11:43] <Jaak> hello
[11:44] <Jaak> and good night
[11:44] <drew> why dosent my mp3 work
[11:44] <Antipodean> hey folks, I was just wondering if there was any way I could backup my installed packages to cd?
[11:44] <_jason> !mp3
[11:44] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:44] <si9o> drew, i had some trouble with that too. i have to install xmms
[11:44] <Sanne> Antipodean, don't know about installed, but you can back up the downloaded debs from /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:45] <blaze> Hi there! :) How can i mount this device: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 11f5:0003 Siemens AG (?) Mobile phone USB cable
[11:45] <drew> I just downloaded a mp3 and it wont load
[11:45] <Antipodean> Sanne: cheers
[11:45] <rseward> Any kernel experts out there?
[11:45] <[dylan] > !nvidia
[11:45] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:45] <_jason> drew: see what ubotu said
[11:45] <canard_> Hello, my unbuntu install keeps getting stuck at 45% Configuring makdev. emm... is there a reason enybody would know for this?
[11:45] <ecormier> anybody have any trouble with the fglrx upgrade today...I upgraded and now no opengl at all
[11:45] <blaze> can anyone help me?
[11:45] <Jowi> drew: read that restrictedformats page. it works
[11:46] <rseward> How do I install the correct .deb kernel-source package for my kernel 2.6.12-10
[11:46] <drew> but I thought mp3 was a free format
[11:46] <Antipodean> Sanne: & would that include all the updates & whatnot?
[11:46] <crimsun> rseward: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[11:46] <Sanne> Antipodean, you may have to check the apt cache purge time in Synaptic, though.
[11:46] <ecormier> yep
[11:46] <rseward> apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.12 does not work.
[11:46] <rseward> package not found :-(
[11:46] <crimsun> rseward: we use linux-, not kernel-
[11:46] <crimsun> drew: it's very much not so.
[11:46] <rseward> doh!
[11:46] <Sanne> Antipodean, yes, it should, this folder is the place where all deb packages get downloaded to.
[11:46] <rseward> Let me try it.
[11:46] <Antipodean> Sanne: cool, thank you
[11:46] <drew> well what is a good mp3 player I can get with apt-get
[11:47] <Sanne> Antipodean, you're welcome
[11:47] <_jason> drew: have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad?
[11:47] <rseward> Hmm... linux-source worked...
[11:47] <blaze> Hi there! :) How can i mount this device: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 11f5:0003 Siemens AG (?) Mobile phone USB cable
[11:47] <rseward> But so did kernel-source-2.6.11
[11:47] <drew> nope
[11:47] <rseward> confusing for an ubuntu newbie.
[11:48] <LuKe-LuKe> has anybody tried to use Qemu with Kqemu accelerator on Ubuntu .... ???
[11:48] <_jason> drew: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats that page explains that you need that to play mp3's
[11:48] <crimsun> rseward: we don't use kernel-
[11:48] <ecormier> I'm using qemu/kqemu
[11:48] <drew> i went to that page
[11:48] <steel> how do i open a .7z archive in ubuntu?
[11:48] <rseward> crimsun: message received
[11:48] <canard_> Hello, my unbuntu install keeps getting stuck at 45% Configuring makdev. emm... is there a reason enybody would know for this?
[11:48] <crimsun> steel: install p7zip
[11:49] <steel> apt-get it?
[11:49] <crimsun> sure, for whatever value of $install
[11:49] <_jason> Is there any place that I can download an older version of a package? for example linux-headers-2.6.15-22-686 instead of linux-headers-2.6.15-23-686
[11:49] <pakirri> has anybody tried to use Orinoco Wireless Silver Card with Network Manager on Ubuntu Dapper
[11:50] <coreyo> which package/daemon creates the nodes such as /dev/input/* and the pty device nodes?
[11:51] <Jowi> coreyo: udev
[11:51] <steel> now... how do i use.... p7zip on an archive...
[11:51] <coreyo> Jowi: I uninstalled it and reinstalled it, now I'm not getting some needed /dev nodes
[11:51] <coreyo> Jowi, any ideas?
[11:51] <SurfnKid> anyone can give me an easy way to mount my NT partition from the command line in an easy 1..2..3.. step
[11:52] <phyre-x> ubuntuguide.org
[11:52] <Jowi> coreyo: no ideas at all. i never had udev problems so my knowledge of how it works are a bit lacking
[11:52] <lewix> yo
[11:52] <canard_> Hello, my unbuntu install keeps getting stuck at 45% Configuring makdev. emm... is there a reason enybody would know for this?
[11:52] <_jason> ubotu: tell SurfnKid about ntfs
[11:53] <SurfnKid> and ubotu speaks!
[11:53] <Jowi> coreyo: as far as i can tell, the settings read for creating symlinks are at /etc/udev/rules.d
[11:53] <PORDO> SurfnKid the mount command
[11:54] <PORDO> mount -t <fs_type> /dev/blah /mount/blah
[11:54] <Fire-NR> is it really this hard to install the ati drivers :| nothing but trouble
[11:54] <Intune> hello. i installed ubuntu under vmware, and it was supposed to share the host's internet connection. it worked until the first reboot, now i can ping domains, but not open them in a browser. where could the problem be?
[11:54] <cose> hi @all
[11:54] <_jason> Fire-NR: are you following the wiki?
[11:54] <Jowi> coreyo: you should have a link in /etc/rcS.d/S10udev -> ../init.d/udev . see if it exist
[11:54] <cose> can anyone help me with my xorg.conf ?
[11:54] <Fire-NR> never saw anything on the wiki for it :|
[11:55] <Okay> my subtitle in divx
[11:55] <Poker> hello...how solve this problem? debsig: Origin Signature check failed. This deb might not be signed
[11:55] <ecormier> anybody have any trouble with the fglrx upgrade today...I upgraded and now no opengl at all
[11:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell Fire-NR about ati
[11:55] <Fire-NR> what they are a load of crap?
[11:55] <SurfnKid> _jason got it thanks,
[11:56] <gambit> anybody know what dir downloads are put in when save to disk
[11:56] <SurfnKid> PORDO that im gonna have to learn to do too.
[11:56] <roostishaw> can anyone point me in the direction of a gide(or tell me if its that simple) to setting up samba to "see" (read/write) to/from my windows comps on the network?
[11:56] <_jason> gambit: try ~/Desktop, or ~, or ~/MyDownloads
[11:56] <SurfnKid> will these be permanently mounted at each bootup? or am i gonna have to mount NTFS every time
[11:56] <Fire-NR> ah thanks jason :)
[11:57] <Jowi> uboat: tell roostishaw about samba
[11:57] <Jowi> ubotu: : tell roostishaw about samba
[11:57] <_jason> SurfnKid: put it in your fstab to mount it everytime
[11:57] <rseward> anyone familar with using ndiswrapper on breezy?
[11:57] <Jaak> if i install ubuntu on my laptop, will it automaticly configure my FN keys?
[11:57] <Jowi> ah, autocomplete madness
[11:57] <torpedo|dog> roostishaw, you can just go to "Places > Connect to Server" or even "Places > Network servers" and choose Windows Network.
[11:57] <Sanne> roostishaw, the ubuntu starter guide on the help menu has helpful hints for samba
[11:57] <SurfnKid> right.. good idea
[11:57] <SurfnKid> man im learning so much already
[11:57] <gambit> ty jason
[11:57] <SurfnKid> ty jason for the help
[11:57] <PORDO> SurfnKid put the mounting applet on your panel.
[11:57] <Blue89> I have a linksys wireless g usb adapter. how do I get that to work in ubuntu?
[11:58] <PORDO> SurfnKid it should see the drive and give you the option to mount it.
[11:58] <Intune> how can it by that i can ping www.google.com, but opening it in firefox fails?
[11:58] <SurfnKid> right
[11:58] <rseward>  anyone familar with using ndiswrapper on breezy?
[11:58] <phyre-x> because firefox is setup to use a proxy that isnt there ?
[11:58] <Intune> no, proxy is disabled
[11:58] <phyre-x> umm, firewall ?
[11:58] <Intune> i'm using vmware with NAT though, but it worked until i rebooted for the first time
[11:59] <Intune> since then i can ping and resolve, but not open or whois and such
[11:59] <ecormier> did you try opening a web page in elinks (or a command line web browser)??
[11:59] <Blue89> Intune, can you try another browser, like dillo for example? I don't know about your situation, but that sounds useful?
[11:59] <Jaak> is Ubuntu 6.06 Desktop CD the LIVE CD?
[11:59] <roostishaw> torpedo|dog, there are 0 items under the Windows Network thing
[11:59] <Intune> couldn't get anything else to install because i use net install
[12:00] <torpedo|dog> roostishaw, hm. I'm in a bit deep then.