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apokryphosjames_xxx: purge the opera deb that you have, and then install another one.12:03
apokryphosman dpkg12:04
james_xxxapokryphos: ok, i am a pthetic newbie... should i type that command into the terminal12:04
james_xxxpathetic*12:05
apokryphosjames_xxx: anything with "man somecommand" opens up the man (manual) page for that command12:05
apokryphosit gives information on its usage, the options it has, etc12:05
james_xxxapokryphos: ok, thanks12:05
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Rigonatticrimsun: no way to desable Modem in BIOS12:08
Rigonattitravelogue884412:08
james_xxxapokryphos: would i just type 'opera purge'?12:08
chuck...12:09
chuckHello?12:09
crimsunRigonatti: ``cat /proc/interrupts''12:09
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loadhow can I get pbuilder to use a different version of a build-dep?12:10
apokryphosjames_xxx: no... you need to use the dpkg command to remove a package; you could also use apt.12:10
apokryphosjames_xxx: sudo apt-get remove --purge opera12:10
apokryphosif you want the spoonfeed 8)12:10
Rigonatticimsun: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/74574312:11
loadit needs kdelibs4-dev >= 4:3.5.3 but it's trying to use 4:3.4.312:11
james_xxxapokryphos: well, i am embarassed. i know so little and sometimes it's pretty humiliating to ask12:11
apokryphosjames_xxx: please do not be; we are here to help :)12:11
chuckhow can I configure my hardware?12:11
apokryphosjames_xxx: many of us like helping if we can, that's why we're here =)12:12
james_xxxapokryphos: ok, opera has been purged.... should it now be alright to attempt installing it again?12:13
apokryphosyes12:13
james_xxxok12:13
james_xxxi'll let you know how it went12:14
crimsunRigonatti: there's no irq allocated for your sound device (or the modem)12:17
Rigonattiso... ? what should I do?12:17
crimsunRigonatti: how new is this motherboard?12:17
RigonattiIn windows works perfectly.12:17
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crimsunit doesn't matter what it does in Windows at this point12:17
chuckhi, I am Charles Miller from NC, but you can call me Chuck, I have just installed kubuntu and I am having problems changing my screen res, I was hopeing someone could help me, I think my problem might be that my video settings are incorrect, can someone please help me, I would appricate it very much if you would.12:18
Rigonatticrimsun: well... I think maybe 2 years...its a Centrino Processor12:18
crimsunRigonatti: please boot with " acpi=on"12:18
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dontmsigh skippy and expocitity arent there yet12:18
dontmtoo slow and buggy12:18
dontmso close though12:18
Rigonattiok...erase the acpi=off obtion in GRub ??12:19
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crimsunRigonatti: change the off to on, yes12:19
james_xxxapokryphos: ok, not of that seems to have gotten opera to work12:19
james_xxxnone*12:19
Rigonattiok...hold12:19
godlkwrthchuck, what type of monitor do you have, video card, etc. how are you changing the resolution? we need more info.12:20
apokryphosjames_xxx: you still get "segmentation fault"?12:20
james_xxxapokryphos: yes12:20
apokryphosthen it's a bug, and you should report it12:21
chuckgodlkwrth, I have a Inter chip set, a Mag monitor and I am trying to change via the system settings/display12:21
chuckIll get you more detail on it, brb12:21
godlkwrthchuck, intel chipset? crt or lcd monitor?12:22
chuckcrt12:22
james_xxxthis may have started after i attempted to install (unsuccessfully) the newest version of gaim. i am not sure that is what messed opera up, however i know it was working earlier today12:22
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apokryphosjames_xxx: no, that should be unrelated12:22
apokryphos.12:22
james_xxxapokryphos: ok, i'll try a bug report12:23
apokryphosjames_xxx: at opera.com12:23
james_xxxok12:24
dontmanyone know of a cool little docking program to monitor cpu and memory usage and such?12:24
godlkwrthchuck, do you happen to know the exact model of video card?12:24
godlkwrthI've never heard of Inter12:25
chuckgodlkwrth, I am looking it up12:25
chuckI do not have PCI or any other slots, I use a chip set for a graphics card12:25
godlkwrthokay12:25
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godlkwrthwhat is your current resolution and what resolution are trying to switch to12:26
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chuckright now its 640x480, any I am trying to switch to anything higher12:27
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slow-motionn812:28
godlkwrthchuck, are you familiar with the konsole/terminal?12:28
erovi have the problem as well with a i830 (intel shared graphics) memory card.. it wont go above 640x480 despite being recognized by auto detection in kubuntu settings12:28
apokryphoschuck: have you read /msg ubotu resolution ?12:28
chuckok I got a Inter Corp. 82845G/GL[brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Intergrated Grapichs Device12:29
chuckapokryphos, someone sent it to me12:29
apokryphosyou can use that12:29
erovi believe that is close to the same device i have, chuck and I have the same problem12:29
chuckerov: Were you able to solve your problem?12:30
erovno12:30
chuck:(12:30
apokryphoswell, you can12:30
apokryphosjust /msg ubotu resolution and follow the instructions12:30
erovgoing to look now at that link12:30
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chuckHmmm on that site, it says that the motor section in the "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" should have a subsection for resolutions, mine does not, think this could be my problem?12:35
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Olihuhi12:36
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Cooner750Hello12:36
Cooner750Got a problem12:36
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OliErm I'm looking for just some easy working wireless applet, for KDE i dont find any usefull :-\ hints? :)12:36
steveklCooner750: Well what is it?12:36
Cooner750I burned a copy of Kubuntu @ 4x onto a CD-R. This is a PPC version that I planned to boot on my Mac Mini 1.42Ghz, 512MB RAM. It sits at a grey screen for a few minutes and then starts loading OS X12:37
Cooner750Yes, I held the C key12:37
Olioh i mean on dapper12:37
chuckbrb, see if that fixed it12:38
Cooner750the disc shows up fine in OS X as "Kubuntu_PowerPC_Breezy"12:38
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steveklCooner750: Did you burn the actual iso, or did you just put the iso file onto the CD?12:39
Cooner750Yes, I burned the image with Disk Utility in OS X12:39
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Cooner750No, I didn't just burn the iso to the disc12:40
steveklCooner750: Can you test it on another machine to see if it boots?12:40
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Cooner750I don't have another Mac here12:40
steveklhm12:40
Cooner750How long do I have to hold C?12:40
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AlinuxOShello12:40
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steveklI know nothing about macs12:40
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steveklbut if it won't boot then I think that either means a) something went wrong duirng burning, or b) something is wrong with the file you downloaded12:41
AlinuxOSdoes KDE use .fonts.config for its configuration?12:41
steveklI would burn it again and see if it boots12:41
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AlinuxOSIn gnome I use my own ~/.fonts.config12:41
Cooner750The cd is quite scratched up, I found it under my computer stand. Might be a possibility12:41
AlinuxOSwhat about KDE ?12:41
Cooner750I cant find any more blank discs...12:42
Brydenn33can someone help me with FSTAB and getting my Windows HD to mount?12:42
Brydenn33i have Fstab opened and just dont know what to add to the file12:42
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steveklBrydenn33: Well you don't have to use fstab to mount something12:42
Brydenn33well when i right click on my 160HD it said that it cant find it in Fstab12:43
Brydenn33well when i go to mount it that is... by right clicking and going to mount12:43
steveklOh12:43
Brydenn33it shows the icon in the media folder12:43
steveklI just mount everything with the console, I don't know anything about the application you're using (konquerer?)12:44
Brydenn33yah konquerer12:44
klerfaytAlinuxOS: isn't fonts.config the same in both desktop environments?12:44
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godlkwrthBrydenn33, do you want the harddrive mounted on boot?12:44
steveklBrydenn33: Yeah I don't know much about it, sorry12:44
Brydenn33yah i'd like it auto booted everytime12:44
Brydenn33thanks anyway stevekl12:44
godlkwrthBrydenn33, what's the device name12:44
godlkwrthaka /dev/hda3 etc12:44
Brydenn33yah let me see really quick12:45
AlinuxOSklerfayt, seems yes.12:45
Brydenn33godlkwrth: it's hdb112:45
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godlkwrthokay make a backup copy of /etc/fstab. "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.backup"12:45
godlkwrthin konsole12:45
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Brydenn33k i did that godlkwrth12:46
godlkwrthokay "sudo kate /etc/fstab"12:46
godlkwrthwhich will open it up in kate12:46
Brydenn33yah i already got it open :)12:46
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godlkwrthok "sudo mkdir /media/windows"12:47
godlkwrthin konsole12:47
steveklWHy don't you people just learn to use vim12:47
stevekl:)12:47
Brydenn33ok now what godlkwrth12:47
crimsun(editor wars are still offtopic.)12:47
klerfaytgodlkwrth: kdesu!12:48
godlkwrthadd the line "/dev/hdb1 /media/windows ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222,ro 0 0"12:48
steveklOk, then, "Why don't people learn to edit text files in the console"12:49
steveklHappy?12:49
godlkwrththat will mount it on boot12:49
crimsunstevekl: (that's their prerogative and again, offtopic.)12:49
godlkwrthto mount it now type "sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/hdb1 /media/windows"12:50
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godlkwrthin konsole12:50
klerfaytbecause most of them don't know how to close and save file after using e.g. vi to edit xorg.conf12:50
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Rigonatticimsun ?12:50
godlkwrthgot it Brydenn33?12:51
crimsunRigonatti: ?12:51
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Brydenn33yah i think so godlkwrth. had to do "kdesu kate etc/fstab/ though12:51
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Brydenn33let me see if it worked :)12:51
Rigonattiacpi=on halt the boot on "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, Loading Kernel"12:51
crimsunRigonatti: sheesh. Well, remove the acpi= stuff completely from the kernel command line, then, and disable the printer port in bios.12:51
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Brydenn33do i need to reboot godlkwrth?12:52
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godlkwrthBrydenn33, did you type in the "sudo mount"... command?12:52
Brydenn33no i didnt12:52
Rigonattimy BIOS dont have any support to ENable Disable Prints too12:52
godlkwrththat will mount it now12:52
Brydenn33sodu mount what12:52
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Brydenn33hdb1?12:52
godlkwrthto mount it now type "sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/hdb1 /media/windows"12:52
crimsunRigonatti: geez, what /does/ your bios allow you to do?12:52
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Brydenn33k thanks godlkwrth... one sec12:53
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Brydenn33awesome godlkwrth... thank you very much12:54
godlkwrthif it didn't work you're most likely using fat32 or something12:54
godlkwrthi assummed you were using ntfs :>12:54
Rigonattiset boot, IDE, Time and Power12:54
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godlkwrthsince no one uses fat32 anymore lol12:54
erov915resolution did not work.. detected an intel chipset but was unknown to the program.. I am going to contact the writer12:54
Rigonatticrimsun: set boot, IDE, Time and Power12:54
Brydenn33i just installed Dapper 6.0612:55
Brydenn33so everything is fresh :)12:55
crimsunRigonatti: in power, is there anything resembling acpi or the like?12:55
godlkwrthBrydenn33, keep in mind there is no write support for ntfs12:55
godlkwrthso you will be greeted with "permission denied" if you try to create a file or modify one12:55
RigonattiPower I can set the LCD power ...and the Intel SpeedStep Tech ... and the power management to battery12:55
Brydenn33i know godlkwrth12:56
Brydenn33i just want access to it for music etc12:56
chotchkihey guys i just installed Dapper and have a small problem with my Broadcom card, according to the wiki I need to run 'sudo iwconfig eth1 rate 11M' everytime i join a network, but I have no idea where to put this command, anyone know?12:56
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erovlook in Utilities in th start menu.. then Konsole12:56
erovit will bring up a terminal, chotchki12:56
crimsunRigonatti: ok, well, reboot without that acpi= parameter completely12:57
Rigonattiok...a second12:57
chotchkierov: i meant where is the script file, (/me is coming from gentoo) ;)12:57
crimsunRigonatti: then pastebin /proc/interrupts before and after loading snd_intel8x012:57
crimsunRigonatti: I'm stepping out for dinner, so I'll be back in 25 minutes.12:57
erovoh.. duh :P sorry12:57
Brydenn33ok be back in a bit :)12:58
Rigonattihow i Load ?12:58
crimsunRigonatti: you can't boot without the acpi=off parameter?12:58
godlkwrthchotchki, you can configure it in /etc/network/interfaces12:58
RigonattiI dont think ...but will try ...12:58
Rigonattibut how should i load snd_intel8x0 ? then I try when you are out for lunch12:59
chotchkii take it that i can just stick the command right under 'iface eth1 inet dhcp'?12:59
godlkwrthchotchki, under "iface wlan0" add "wireless-rate 11M"12:59
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godlkwrthyeah01:00
godlkwrthwhatever interface your wireless card is on01:00
oofusHi all. Got Dapper installed on an Acer Aspire 1690 series laptop. Works brilliantly. One of the only things not working is the built in Flash card reader. Anybody got any pointers ?01:00
chotchkicool thanks guys01:00
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godlkwrthchotchki, shouldn't have to reboot01:00
godlkwrthjust issue an "ifdown eth1; ifup eth1"01:01
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godlkwrthor whatever the interface is01:01
chotchkigodlkwrth: true... (/me feels embarassed for forgetting)01:01
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godlkwrthbbl01:02
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XVampireX_http://be-utopia.blogspot.com/01:10
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XVampireX_My blog, funny post, posted it just now01:10
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blackflaghello all01:17
blackflagI want to upgrade from breezy to dapper01:18
blackflagbut can not find aaa way01:18
blackflagcan someone help?01:18
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ingratohi01:20
ingratocan I install WindowMaker using adept?01:21
ingratoif so, what server do I need to add to display windowmaker on there01:21
XVampireX_!upgradedapper01:22
ubotuXVampireX_: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:22
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XVampireX_I forgot the command blackflag01:22
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XVampireX_It's somewhere at the wiki01:22
XVampireX_blackflag: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades?highlight=%28dapper%2901:23
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ingratoih01:29
ingratohi01:29
ingratoow do I install windowmaker01:29
crimsunenable universe and install wmaker01:30
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evilmegamanhi I have a SIS integrated graphics thing and I was wondering if there is ANY way to have 3d graphics acceleration even in the slightest..01:41
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sorush20can I play flash movies from video.google.com in konqueror?01:43
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Kmirnoplop01:44
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Snake[Away] sorush20: sure01:44
DaSkreechcan someone try apt-get install amanda?01:45
sorush20evey time I try to access google.com I keep getting refered to google.co.uk? why/01:46
sorush20using konqueror01:47
Snake[Away] sorush20: no ider01:47
dickhallsorush20: it's likely detecting your IP and redirecting you based on where you live01:49
dickhallgoogle.com goes to google.ca to me01:49
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dickhalldoes it really matter to you?01:49
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Brydenn33ok so i installed Automatrix and for some reason I cant seem to get the nVidia settings to come up01:50
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Brydenn33any ideas?01:50
ingratocrimsun, thanks now do I add it to the kdm menu?01:50
The^nike@mp301:51
The^nike!mp301:51
uboturumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:51
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crimsuningrato: check and see if there's a session file if not already01:52
ingratoa session file where?01:52
ingratoin what directory?01:52
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james_xxxapokryphos: in case you come across anyone else having the same problem with opera i was having, i went ahead and installed the new beta and it seems to work fine. i could not get other versions to work01:54
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drixI just installed kubuntu-desktop with apt-get install, and when I boot up, I get the kubuntu desktop login area, but when I login, I go to GNOME01:57
drixany idea why, or how to fix it?01:57
drixanyone?01:58
DaSkreechAnyone have Dapper 6 minutes a net connection and universe enabled?01:59
godlkwrthBrydenn33, i'm back, i can't send pm's tho01:59
DaSkreechdrix: Go to session and change it to KDE01:59
Brydenn33ok01:59
Brydenn33well you are familiar with Automatrix right?] 01:59
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HymnToLifeowww Automatix...01:59
godlkwrthno01:59
HymnToLife!automatix01:59
ubotuautomatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.01:59
Brydenn33hehe ok didnt know about easyubuntu02:00
Brydenn33basically i'm trying to get my nvidia drivers installed02:00
Brydenn33when i had breezy it worked fine02:00
Brydenn33should i try easyubuntu?02:00
DaSkreechdrix: That would be on the login screen btw :-)02:00
HymnToLifeDapper is on #ubuntu+1 still :p02:00
DaSkreechtechnically no as far as I know02:01
DaSkreechThough I guess they could help :-)02:01
Brydenn33brb02:02
godlkwrthBrydenn33, isn't nvidia well supported by default?02:02
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DaSkreechcan someone try to install amanda-server from adept?02:03
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Brydenn33i'm sure it is godlkwrth02:03
Brydenn33but i like being updated :)02:04
godlkwrthI wouldn't mess with nvidia drivers02:04
drogenwhats a good screen shot app?02:04
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godlkwrthI like being up-to-date as well, but unless something isn't working as fast as it should or something I see no reason02:05
Brydenn33drogen: ksnapshot is default02:05
Brydenn33just go to Graphics02:05
Brydenn33you'll see it there02:05
evilmegamananyone know if SIS graphics can play darwinia?02:05
drogenk thanks02:05
Brydenn33np02:05
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Bilfordtj9991, did your storage issue magically resolve itself yet02:06
Jack_SparrowI  just installedKU and I cant seem to run a sh script02:06
Bilfordare you using  /.nameofscript02:07
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Jack_SparrowI didnt have a problem yesterday02:07
imbrandonits ./script02:07
imbrandonnot /.02:07
imbrandon;)02:07
Bilfordoops02:07
Jack_Sparrowit is install of theme02:08
imbrandoncant seem to run it dosent help up much though Jack_Sparrow , how exactly did you try to run it, what is the error , that kinda stuff ;002:08
DaSkreechdrogen: Press Print screeen02:08
Jack_Sparrowicons.install.sh02:09
Bilford...02:09
Jack_SparrowI just tried toclick it02:09
imbrandonah shell scripts arent run that way, they are runfrom the shell, IE the name ;)02:09
Jack_SparrowThoughtthat is what Idid whenIinstalled it yesterdaay02:09
imbrandonopen a terminal and type ./icons.install.sh02:10
Jack_Sparrowk02:10
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drogencan i update from 5.10 to 6.0602:11
drogenby downloading the iso or something02:11
drogeni could do that with FC02:11
imbrandon!upgrade02:11
ubotuupgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.02:11
imbrandonsure, read that ^^02:11
drogenthanks man02:11
DaSkreechimbrandon: do you have universe setup and adept open? :-)02:12
imbrandoni dont use adept, but yes i have universe02:12
imbrandonwhats up?02:12
godlkwrthbryden33: dapper comes with latest nvidia drivers02:12
DaSkreechimbrandon: You don't use adept==not installed?02:12
Brydenn33well if it does my resolution or something is messed up02:13
imbrandoni CAN open it if you need something, yes its installed, i just use apt-get most ofg the time, whats yup?02:13
DaSkreechcan You install amanda-server from adept?02:13
imbrandongodlkwrth, it comes with them but not installed02:13
NthDegreeimbrandon, if you choose the complete kernel then they are :)02:14
imbrandonDaSkreech, i can try after while02:14
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godlkwrthi tried flight 7 on amd64 and lsmod showed nvidia was loaded02:14
Jack_Sparrowit could not find the file.02:14
imbrandonNthDegree, right if you CHOOSE, but not by default02:14
DaSkreechimbrandon: Sure let me know when it's installed02:14
NoMorePutsDoes anyone know of an Adept Repository that supports mySQL 5.x?02:14
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drogenwhats gksudo?02:14
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drogeni dont have it.02:14
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DaSkreechdrogen: are you updating from Kubuntu?02:14
drogenyes02:15
Jack_Sparrowimbrandon: I wanted helpwith that theme02:15
DaSkreechtry kdesu instead02:15
Jack_Sparrowplease02:15
NthDegreeit isn't gksudo anyway for most stuff 'tis gksu and it does the same thing02:15
drogenis there a kubuntu tutorial02:15
imbrandonJack_Sparrow, i havent packaged it up yet, been working on dapper release stuff , i'll get tit some some time ;)02:15
Jack_Sparrowk02:16
DaSkreechdrogen: You mean a Linux tutorial?02:17
drogenyes02:17
drogenits giving me an error02:17
imbrandondrogen,02:17
DaSkreechdrogen: where?02:17
drogenXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server02:17
drogenXlib: No protocol specified02:17
DaSkreechWhich error?02:17
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DaSkreechhmm02:17
DaSkreechok02:17
drogeni feel like such a noob lol02:17
DaSkreechwho are you logged in as?02:17
drogeni know FC5 like the back of my hand02:17
imbrandondrogen, read this page .... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades and follow the part  ..... Upgrading by changing sources and the command line02:17
drogensu02:17
DaSkreechyourself I take it :)02:17
drogenlol02:18
drogenI love FC502:18
drogenbut its... getting old02:18
DaSkreechsafest way is to do it from command line02:18
imbrandondrogen, read this page .... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades and follow the part  ..... Upgrading by changing sources and the command line02:18
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drogenyou know what i mean?02:19
drogenred hat is sexy02:19
drogenbut not that sexy02:19
imbrandonredhat and other rpm based distros are a pita02:19
drogenlol02:19
imbrandondont troll , you wanted to know how, thats how ;)02:19
drogenone question02:19
imbrandonsure ;)02:19
james_xxxok some dumb questions.... should i be running an anti-virus program and a firewall on kubuntu?02:20
drogendeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted02:20
drogendo i change the link?02:20
imbrandonjames_xxx, firestarted == firewall , klamav == anti virus02:20
imbrandondrogen, you change the "breezy" to "dapper" , did you not read the link i gave you ?02:20
james_xxximbrandon: those are command line entries? (yeah, i have to ask)02:21
drogennvm02:21
drogenlol02:21
drogeni was being stupid02:21
drogenyes im reading it02:21
imbrandonjames_xxx, no02:21
imbrandonthats the names of the programs02:21
imbrandonyou ask about02:21
james_xxxok02:21
drogenman.02:21
drogenhow do i enable log in with root?02:21
james_xxximbrandon: can they be downloaded from repositories?02:21
imbrandondrogen, you dont in kubuntu or ubuntu02:22
imbrandonjames_xxx, yes02:22
drogenthan how do i save the sources list?02:22
james_xxximbrandon: ok thanks!02:22
imbrandonsudo02:22
DaSkreechjames_xxx: to answer your question yes if yo uwant to feel safer ... meh! not really :)02:22
drogenThe document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list.02:22
drogenCheck that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.02:22
imbrandonsudo02:22
imbrandonsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list or kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list02:23
imbrandonrtfm ;) its all on the page ;)02:23
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james_xxxDaSkreech: is it considered to be fairly unnecessary with linux? even running a firewall?02:24
drogenty brandon02:24
DaSkreechOh wait02:24
imbrandonjames_xxx, you shouldent need a antivirus but firewall if you dont use a router is nice02:24
DaSkreechswap those I thought you asked about firewall first :-)02:24
DaSkreecha firewall is a good diea :)02:24
DaSkreechidea02:24
imbrandonif your not running a router ( acts as a firewall already )02:25
nnn0yeah you should run a firewall, but antivirus you probably don't need02:25
james_xxxall routers act as firewalls?02:25
drogenhey brandon02:25
drogenis the past comman02:25
imbrandonif they use nat james_xxx yes02:25
NthDegreekubuntu has ipchains which IS A FIREWALL02:25
drogencontrol v02:25
drogenpaste02:25
drogencommand*02:25
james_xxxman i am so ignorant lol... i have no idea what nat is02:25
nnn0yeah kubuntu is ready set up with firewall02:25
drogenin nano02:25
nnn0you can use Guarddog to inteface to it02:25
imbrandondrogen, right click paste, or ctl v02:26
NthDegreeNAT = Network Address Translation02:26
dipnlikhi all. how can i *completely* remove a package and its settings?  having weird problems with kpilot02:26
DaSkreechjames_xxx: ask Google :) or Wikipedia02:26
NthDegreeuse adept dipnlik02:26
imbrandonjames_xxx, type ifconfig , if you see 192.168.X.X then you are nat behind your router , no need for firewall then02:26
nnn0everyone should run a firewall02:27
imbrandondipnlik, apt-get --purge remove kpilot02:27
imbrandonnnn0, one yes, not more than one02:27
nnn0:)02:27
nnn0depends - i run sevarl - i trust nobody ;)02:28
nnn0several even02:28
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james_xxxok i guess i do not need a firewall02:28
drogenyesss02:28
drogenit works02:28
nnn0aarrrggg02:28
james_xxxaccording to ifconfig02:28
imbrandonthats good but most of us only have home pc's behind our firewalls , if someon wants to take the time to crack that then they are stupid02:28
drogenthanks brandon02:28
dipnlikimbrandon, NthDegree: thanks02:28
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imbrandonjames_xxx, its not that you dont need one, you alrady have one running on your router ;)02:29
NthDegreeno problem dipnlik, since this is a support channel :)02:30
nnn0well - let's say your on a wlan, or in a computer lab or whatever - i always use a local firewall aswall02:30
nnn0aswell02:30
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imbrandonnnn0, like i said this is about home pc's ;) not special cases02:30
drogenimbrandon, do you know if 6.06 supports broadcom chipsets02:30
imbrandondrogen, no ( broadcom as far as i know isnt support in any version of linux anywhere )02:31
nnn0but at home, i don't trust that cheap router/nat/firewall/hub thingy one bit :D02:31
DaSkreechoh wait02:31
imbrandonnnn0, like i said thats fine if you have ft knox to protect but MOST people only have normal home pc's behind the firewall and its not worth the time to a cracker02:32
DaSkreechimbrandon: Did you do a dist-upgrade to dapper?02:32
imbrandonDaSkreech, i've been running dapper for months02:32
DaSkreechHmm :-(02:32
DaSkreechThat might not mirror my experince :-(02:32
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DaSkreechin anycase when you install amanda let me know02:32
nnn0it's like saying; ok - since i'm doing this AIDS guy at home, i just need One condom :D02:33
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nnn0most attacks are automated and they don't care who you are - they just want your credit card number or whatever02:34
imbrandonno its like saying , i am protected to this level, is it worth the headache to run multi firewalls , ask your self what your protecting, your mp3's ? is someone gonna realy take the time to crack your 128bit wep key and router JUST TO DELETE yoyr mp3's?02:34
nnn0i'm protecting my life !!!02:35
imbrandonnnn0, automated atacks target business , join a alt 2600 meeting sometime ;)02:35
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nnn0imbrandon, you have abviously not attacked many ;)02:35
nnn0obviously even02:35
nnn0maybe if you really really piss someone of - it gets personal02:36
nnn0mostly at just robots cracking day and night02:36
nnn0IP after IP02:37
imbrandonthats in special case when you piss someone off and robots target business, yea ok, i got my point accross and you got yours, stop the troll conv in here ( take it to #kubuntu-offtopic if you want , i wont be joining you )02:37
nnn0yeah yeah yeah02:37
nnn0;)02:38
DaSkreechAnyone installed dapper from a CD?02:39
nnn0i did02:39
nnn0from the SimplyMEPIS 6.0 beta 3 CD :)02:40
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DaSkreech_neoncode: hi02:40
james_xxxhow can you install dapper from a mepis CD?02:40
james_xxx...02:40
nnn0guess ;)02:40
james_xxxmy guess is you can't, but heck if i know02:41
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nnn0maybe they use the dapper pool now02:41
nnn0so it's all dapper02:41
nnn0but with all the extra of course02:41
nnn0:)02:41
james_xxxi knew simplymepis was based on ubuntu, but didn't know they were quite that close02:41
dipnliknnn0: what are these "extras" ?02:42
james_xxxnnn0:  do you like simplymepis better than kubuntu?02:42
dipnliknnn0: what you like about mepis? i don't know it02:42
nnn0mepis was debian based, not ubunto based02:42
nnn0i like the live cd02:42
Bilfordmy script works when I run it in the console, but when it runs via cronjob, it does some weird directory things.  any ideas why?02:42
Bilfordshell script02:42
nnn0it's very easy to fix grub and stuff02:42
james_xxxaccording to what i've read, simplymepis is actuall ubuntu based (which is naturally debian-based), is this wrong?02:43
nnn0mepis is both a live and instll cd in one02:43
james_xxxyeah, i have that simplymepis CD02:43
imbrandonmepis is ubuntu based yes02:43
nnn0so it's still like that but they went from 3.4.3 to 6.0 beta02:44
nnn0so the dapper based is still in beta02:44
imbrandonso is dapper ;)02:44
nnn0excatly02:44
james_xxxwill there likely be many changes from what is available now and what dapper will be at release?02:44
nnn0http://mepis.org/02:44
imbrandonjames_xxx, no02:45
james_xxxi didn't think so02:45
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nnn0and in one instance - on a laptop, kubuntu wouldn't initialize the diplay, but mepis did it easy - widescreen even02:46
nnn0X700 i think02:47
Bilfordtj9991, did your storage issue magically resolve itself yet02:47
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wordHow do you set the default application for .torrent files?02:50
Bilfordright click the file02:51
Bilfordselect Properties02:51
Bilfordclick that wrench Icon02:51
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worddoes that also set the default icon for torrents?02:52
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wordAh, just had to refresh. Thanks :D02:52
DaSkreechnnn0: Do you have universe enabled?02:54
nnn0yes i think so02:54
DaSkreechcan you use adept and get amanda-server?02:54
nnn0sorry i was just about to smoke a banana - brb02:55
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Rigonattihi all !03:02
NthDegree_hi03:03
Rigonattidoes anyone know how to setup a sound card  in kubuntu ?03:03
nixternalwhat kind of soundcard?03:03
NthDegreeRigonatti - your sound card should already work03:04
NthDegreetry system settings and look at the sound options03:04
ChunSleepyou trying to get it to work w/ digital?03:04
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Rigonattinope...i got a error right KDE starts03:05
RigonattiNthDegree: can you lend me a help ?03:08
ChunHuitry some other audio/video files see if sound plays03:08
ChunHuicuz it might just be a missing kde startup sound file03:09
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sampan_i have a serious problem.  been trying to set up a small network -- just rebooted kubuntu and my kde is really messed up03:10
sampan_i didn't change any settings except for my eth0 connection (disabled ppp0) ... but i can't even get a panel or anything03:11
NthDegreeol Rigonatti03:12
NthDegreeok*03:12
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NthDegreetry system settings > sound & multimedia @ Rigonatti03:12
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Bilfordmy Google fonts are really tiny.  anyone else have that03:16
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pervezUnable to set display properly on intel d101 board. is it supported on kubuntu linux?03:18
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_marcohrllo03:19
_marcohello03:19
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_marcoi wanna know how can i see what ADEPT tell me after i have installed a package03:19
_marcoit appear and disappe in a second......03:20
_marcoplese anybody?03:20
_marcowhat is the name of the file where's saved it?03:21
_marcommmm03:21
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Brydenn33godlkwrth: can you tell me again how to auto mount my windows HD hehe03:44
Brydenn33i erased my HD and reinstalled :)03:44
Brydenn33can anyone help me with that?03:46
imbrandonBrydenn33, sorry i got to run but to get you started it should look SOMETHING like this in /etc/fstab "/dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1"03:47
imbrandonwith a diffrent gid etc03:47
Brydenn33i have the fstab info03:47
imbrandonthen put the fstab info on the line under /boot or / and it should automount on bootup03:48
imbrandongotta run bbab03:48
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BilfordKonqueror has lots of nice features as a web browser03:52
pervezI run Kubuntu Dapper. I installed akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad. Still unable to play mp3 from amarok. Amarok takes xine as the engine03:52
Bilfordyou can configure the plugins03:53
Bilfordi can type    movie star wars   in the address bar, and it goes to IMDB03:53
Bilfordor   g kubuntu   for a Google Kubuntu search03:54
Bilfordetc03:54
Bilfordgn for google news03:54
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Bilfordwhatever shortcuts you configure03:54
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pervezBilford: Iam used to Ctrl+Enter;when pressed firefox prefixes address bar contents with www. and suffixes it with .com How do I do it on konqueror?03:56
joelHi first time installing and using Linux. I downloaded Firefox and untared it or unziped it now I don't know how to run or install it?03:56
Bilfordhm03:57
joelThe instructions on firfoxs web site is to just untar it?03:58
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_nano_joel: just go to that untarred folder and type ./firefox in console03:59
Bilfordpervez, you type, and it adds the suffix, but Im still trying to find out how to add the .com03:59
orangeyhey all!03:59
orangeyquick q about dapper: I have upgraded from breezy, and I can no longer find a way to configure my dpms powersaving to turn off my screen automagically.. where did it go?04:00
crabgrassin kde if you are copying one folder into another, does it replace the folder or copy the new contents into it.  it is asking me if i want to overwrite all04:01
pervezorangey:probably system settings?04:01
joelhmm ok it asked me "Do you really want to execute 'file:///home/joel/firefox/firefox'?" I press execute and nothing?04:01
pervezjoel:why don't u install it with adept04:02
joelwow no clue I am a real n00b were do I fund adept?04:03
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orangeypervez: do I have to have 'acpi' enabled?04:03
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orangeypervez: or where within system settings could that be found? I've run through the whole thing, and where it used to be - display - gives an error saying it's no longer there.04:04
pervezjoel:K button->system->Adept04:04
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Ademan_anyone here use kdevelop?04:05
pervezoarangey:display icon04:05
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orangeypervez: huh?04:05
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orangeypervez: the Display icon is still there, but clicking it gives an error.04:06
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joelThank you now it started to download04:06
pervezorangey:hmm.... what's the error message?04:07
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joelI am dual os on two partitions is there any way to accsess my documents on a NTFS partition?04:07
orangeyhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/3325904:07
pervezjoel: you could read files from ntfs partition04:08
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wordwhat's with the 'write permissions' checkbox when you mount ntfs partitions in dapper?04:09
orangeyhmm.04:09
orangeyhow do I run 'kde-guidance'?04:10
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joelwhen I press on that HDD it says "Could not enter folder /media/hda1"04:10
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joelan error?04:11
joelit might not be nt?04:11
wordit's ntfs04:11
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wordwindows xp = ntfs unless you upgraded from a later version of windows04:11
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joeldo you know what the error means?04:12
chotchkihey guys i am trying to run gconf-editor to setup compiz but it just seems to hang with no output, anyone seen this before?04:12
_nano_joel: check the permissions of the mounted file system04:14
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_nano_joel: you have to add umask=0 for the respective filesystem entry in the fstab file04:14
_nano_joel: so that all users can access that mount04:15
Brydenn33can one of you help me to auto mount my windows HD?04:16
joelit says it is mounted and can view, is it supos to be unmounted?04:16
_nano_joel: you can view the filesystem? if you can browser through it then what's the problem?04:17
_nano_joel: writing to ntfs partition is still experimental and is not advisable04:17
_nano_!ntfs04:17
ubotuntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe.04:17
joelI try to change to all users and it says "Could not change permissions for /media/hda1"04:17
joelno nothing come up04:17
_nano_joel: coz the partition is owned by the root..04:17
joelI can't view the filesystem04:17
_nano_joel can you pastebin your fstab file?04:18
_nano_joel: /etc/fstab04:18
joeldo it "/etc/fstab" in the comand04:18
joel?04:18
_nano_kedit /etc/fstab04:19
GullyFoyleca /etc/fstab04:19
GullyFoylecat04:19
_nano_go to www.pastebin.com and paste the file contents..and post the link04:19
joelok I posted it04:20
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paperangelhey imbrandon04:20
paperangelthis is drogen04:20
_nano_joel: link?04:20
paperangelwhat was the link again04:21
paperangelfor the sources.list04:21
_nano_!sources.list04:21
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:21
paperangelty04:21
joelhttp://pastebin.com/74605004:21
joelthis link?04:22
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_nano_joel: yea04:23
_nano_joel: type this command now04:23
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joelyes?04:24
_nano_joel: go to file browser in super user mode04:25
joelwow no clue how to do super user mode and were the file browswer is04:26
_nano_joel: ok open console (forget the file browser)04:26
_nano_joel: sudo nano /etc/fstab04:27
_nano_joel: done?04:28
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joelwhat is sudo nano?04:28
joelI tryed doing command "sudo nano /etc/fstab"04:28
_nano_joel: what happened when you did that?04:29
Rigonattican anyone help me with alsa ?04:29
_nano_joel: sudo -- executing in superuser mode04:29
_nano_!sudo04:29
ubotusomebody said sudo was a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.04:29
orangeyhey all. any kde-guidance folk here?04:29
joelnothing04:29
orangeyI'm looking to modify /usr/share/apps/guidance/pcitable to support my card04:30
_nano_joel: no error nothing?? o_O04:30
orangeyas I've described here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/3727504:30
joelI will try agian04:30
Riddellorangey: you want _Sime04:31
Riddellwho will be asleep04:31
orangeyRiddell: what time zone is he in?04:31
Riddelleurope04:31
Rigonattihi ..can someone take a look ? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/74605804:31
Brydenn33is there a reason why i cant play mp3's04:31
orangeyRiddell: OK. p.s., as a happy Kubuntu user, thank you so much for all your work. : )04:31
orangeyRiddell: will he receive my bug report?04:32
Riddellorangey: he will, he's good like that04:32
joelhmm wird nothing I closed all except this chat program then ran "sudo nano /etc/fstab" in the comand04:32
orangeyRiddell: wonderful. thank you.04:33
Rigonatti=(04:33
psyke83hi, when I try to run a certain app it complains "(/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_Dispatch)". Usually I'd just use "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 app", but this time it doesn't help, are there any other libs I can try preloading too?04:33
_nano_joel: let's try another approach then....all i'm trying to do is make you edit the fstab as root04:34
_nano_joel: go to run command in the kmenu04:34
joelok04:34
Rigonattihey guys, can someone lend me a help? Im almost giving up of ubunt =(04:34
_nano_joel: there must be an option there to run command as superuser04:34
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joelrun comand I did "options" there are three things "run in terminal window, run as a different user, run with different priority04:36
_nano_joel: go to run as a different user...with username: root and password: your password04:37
_nano_root password04:37
_nano_joel: pm?04:38
joelok "pm" what do you mean/04:38
_nano_pm = personal message04:38
joelok but it says I am block because not registered04:39
_nano_joel: /msg nickserv register passwd04:40
Rigonattihttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/74605804:40
Rigonattiops04:40
joel_how do I change my nickname04:41
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Rigonattihey guys, can someone lend me a help? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/74605804:42
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joel_newnickname vose04:42
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_nano_joel_: slash nick newnickname04:43
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DeadS0ulis it just me or has i2c-source removed from dapper04:50
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Bilfordtj9991, did your storage problem magically fix itself yet05:17
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steven_Anyone online this late?05:20
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steven_I'm trying to install a new splashscreen and theme. Can someone walk me through it?05:21
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steven_I'm trying to install a new splashscreen and theme. Can someone walk me through it?05:24
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steven_I'm trying to install a new splashscreen and theme. Can someone walk me through it?05:26
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steven_Can someone please answer me?05:29
wordWhy would a 256 mb usb drive appear as 261 in linux and like 249 in windows?05:31
steven_I'm trying to install a new splashscreen and theme. Can someone walk me through it?05:31
apokryphossteven_: check the howtos on kdelook.org05:31
steven_To answer your question because no one will answer mine. I dont know what your talking about.05:31
Jack_Sparrowwould lovetoknowthat myself05:31
apokryphossteven_: you spoke too soon 8)05:32
Vose!samba05:32
ubotumethinks samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html05:32
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Jack_SparrowI was trying to install XP theme05:32
apokryphosword: just different ways in which they read the bytes, I guess.05:32
steven_apokryphos->kde-look doesn't say anything about it.05:32
wordMeh :-/05:32
steven_apokryphos->It only says to find some folder and put the theme files in there.05:32
timothyhello05:32
steven_apokryphos->But there is no such folder.05:32
apokryphossteven_: then create it05:33
apokryphoshi timothy05:33
timothyhello05:33
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timothydo you know where I can get automake1.6 for dapper?  kdevelop needs it05:34
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DaSkreechRiddell: Whats landscape? A Kubuntu sabayon?05:34
apokryphossteven_: and anyway.......the tutorial for splash screen setup says nothing about creating a folder.05:34
steven_apokryphos->But what exactly is: ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes? What does the ~ mean, and a folder cant start with a period can it?05:34
PyroMithrandiranything that starts with a . is hidden05:35
apokryphossteven_: well, that's not a splash screen is it05:35
timothy~ is your home folder05:35
steven_apokryphos->Yeah, the splash screen tutorial is written as if your installing stuff in XP. Which I'm not. There is no CONTROL PANEL?05:35
steven_timothy->Ohhh! Thanks05:35
apokryphos(i) it's nto a splash screen that you're trying to install05:36
steven_splash and theme.05:36
timothyyeriod is a hudden folder05:36
timothyit is usualy used for user settings05:36
apokryphossteven_: no; kdm has nothing to do with the splash theme, so that's not what you're trying to install, or you're viewing the wrong howto.05:36
apokryphossteven_: also, where exactly do you see a mention of the "CONTROL PANEL"?05:37
apokryphoslink?05:37
kkathmanhowdy apokryphos :)05:37
steven_http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=3505:37
apokryphoshi kkathman05:37
steven_"Goto Control Panel"05:37
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apokryphossteven_: (i) "~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themescan it?" appears nowhere there; (ii) it says control center, not control panel.05:38
apokryphosgeez05:38
timothygoto a command line ty.e kcontrol05:38
steven_Nice, thanks timothy.05:39
steven_Sorry apokryphos, I guess I'm too used to XP.05:39
timothybtw the xp splash screen should already be there05:40
kkathmanhey apokryphos Im trying to start konq in the file manager mode, with the midnight-commander profile, at root.. I thought that kdesu konqueror --profile midnight-commander would do it...but its doesnt...you know what Im doing wrong?05:41
timothyit's caller redmond05:41
kkathmanI also tried kfmclient too :(05:41
steven_timothy->Ok, I got the splashscreen installed. Now how exactly do I install the theme? It wont show it under Theme Manager.05:41
apokryphoskkathman: quotations?05:42
apokryphosthe option belongs to konqueror, not kdesu05:42
kkathmanapokryphos:  you know in SUSE there is a superfile manager'05:42
kkathmani want the same capability05:42
kkathmanin Dapper05:42
apokryphosdidn't know there was, but hey; I pretty much never venture into root konqueror05:43
kkathmanahh ok05:43
apokryphosanyhow, yeah, you need the quotes in there =)05:43
kkathmanquotes AFTER kdesu ?05:43
timothysteven_->I don't know which one you are trying to install05:43
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apokryphoskkathman: yup, of course. If you think about it, it'll try to process --profile and midnight-commander as arguments/options of kdesu, if you run it like that05:44
timothyno answer to my question :(05:44
apokryphoswhen really what you're trying to say is run x as kdesu; so kdesu x, where x is --profile midnight-commander05:44
steven_timothy->I got the splash screen installed. Now I want to install the theme that matches it. But it doesn't show up when I try and point the Theme Manager to it.05:44
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timothysteven_-> is there an entry for redmond in the theme manager?05:46
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Jack_Sparrowhowdo I get permissions inkonq to execute a shell script05:46
Jack_SparrowI get permission denied05:47
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Jack_SparrowIt sis run onescript05:47
Jack_Sparrowdidhttp://www.yahoo.com/05:47
steven_timothy->Yes, but I'm not trying to install redmond. I have a LCARS(StarTrek) splash screen installed and the theme that matches it wont show up.05:47
Jack_Sparrowoops how did i do thathttp://www.yahoo.com/05:48
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DaSkreechHas someone installed dapper from CD?05:48
Jack_Sparrowbrb05:48
timothysteven_-> I have been using linux for less than a month so I don't know that I am the one to ask ;)05:48
kkathmanapokryphos:  sorry that didnt work either...I got it at least configured tho05:49
steven_timothy->Oh well thank you for getting the splash screen to work for me. I would have never found the Control Center.05:49
apokryphoskkathman: what do you mean it didn't work? :)05:49
steven_Anyone know how to install KDE themes?05:49
timothysteven_-> did you download a theme file?05:49
apokryphossteven_: have you even googled?05:50
apokryphosthis place isn't a substitute for basic research05:50
steven_apokryphos->Google what? "How to install KDE themes"05:50
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steven_timothy->Yeah, I downloaded it from kde-look.org05:51
timothydoes anyone know where i can get automake1.6?05:51
apokryphossteven_: I'm sure you know how to use google :)05:51
kkathmanapokryphos:  nm05:51
steven_apokryphos->I guess I'll try that.05:51
timothykdevelop tells me05:51
timothy*** YOU'RE USING automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6.05:51
timothy*** KDE requires automake 1.605:51
wordif you want to increase the size of your linux partition do you have to increase the size of the swap?05:51
apokryphoskkathman: profile is midnightcommander btw, no hyphen. Perhaps that was causing the problem...05:52
apokryphosword: no05:52
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apokryphostimothy: so get a newer version of automake05:52
apokryphos!find automake dapper05:53
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'automake' (4 shown): automake1.4 ;; automake1.7 ;; automake1.8 ;; automake1.9.05:53
timothyapokryphos: how? I cant get it through apt05:53
apokryphostimothy: fire up adept, search for automake05:53
kkathmanapokryphos:  I tried both, they each come back with "Malformed URL"05:54
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apokryphoskkathman: what is it you're entering *exactly*?05:54
apokryphosdidn't kubuntu all muck up the idea of profiles from breezy+ anyhow?05:54
apokryphosI remember them implementing a different method. Hm.05:55
timothyapokryphos: will installing 1.7 work  would it hurt to try?05:55
steven_Ok, what format are theme files supposed to be in? "*.?"05:55
apokryphostimothy: anything 1.6+ will work, as the message says.05:55
timothyapokryphos: thankyou05:55
kkathmanapokryphos:  well I've enter several variations:   konqueror --profile midnightcommander   to start with05:56
apokryphoskkathman: konqueror --profiles gives?05:56
kkathmanapokryphos:  also konqueror --profile=midnightcommander05:56
Jack_SparrowI am trying to run a script in konq and I get permission denied05:56
apokryphosno, that's not the syntax05:56
DaSkreechcan someone try and apt-get amanda with Adept?05:56
kkathmanapokryphos:  nothing05:57
apokryphosJack_Sparrow: it can't execute it for the same reason you couldn't execute that script from anywhere then05:57
apokryphoskkathman: there you go, then :). No profiles available05:57
kkathmanhmm05:57
kkathmanodd05:57
kkathmanthought Dapper came with profiles?05:57
kkathmanvery odd05:57
apokryphoskkathman: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror05:57
Jack_Sparrowso how do I get permissions05:57
apokryphosJack_Sparrow: change the permissions of the file, maybe ;-)05:58
kkathmankonq nm... I can just build my own05:58
apokryphos:/05:59
wordis there a linux utility to resize partitions....that's known to be safe?05:59
apokryphosno partitioning program is totally safe in my experience05:59
apokryphosgparted is pretty nice and friendly though05:59
wordis that for gnome though?05:59
DaSkreechword: qtparted05:59
apokryphosgparted is a lot nicer06:00
apokryphosand, as any application, any gnome app works in kde and visa versa06:00
worddont you have to install a bunch of other packages for it to work on kde though?06:00
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apokryphosprobably not many, your choice. Try qtparted and stick with it if you can handle it, I guess.06:00
DaSkreechkkathman: Do you have universe enabled?06:02
kkathmanDaSkreech:  yes06:02
DaSkreechcan You use adept and install amanda=server for me?06:02
kkathman??06:03
DaSkreechamanda-server06:03
DaSkreechsorry06:03
kkathmanuhm.. I guess... what am I going to do with it?06:04
wordqtparted crashed when i tried selecting a drive..06:04
wordnot exactly comforting..06:04
DaSkreechanytime I do it adept tells me to insert the Kubuntu Cd06:04
apokryphosif you don't want that then remove the cd as a source06:04
DaSkreechIt is removed06:05
apokryphosthen it won't ask for the CD, presuming you did an apt-get update06:05
DaSkreechI did06:05
DaSkreechWhich is why I'm puzzled06:05
apokryphosdoesn't sound like you have =)06:05
Bilfordhow do I make Konversation window transparent06:05
BilfordI did alt+f3 but nothings working06:05
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kkathmanDaSkreech:  let me give it a whirl06:06
DaSkreechhold on06:07
DaSkreech:-)06:07
DaSkreechkkathman: I found another CDrom line in the comments not commented out06:07
kkathmanDaSkreech:  no prob here...it comes up and prompts me to install here no CD asked06:08
kkathmanahh ok06:08
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kkathmanDaSkreech:  hmm I dont think I had 206:08
kkathmanbut Im on Dapper right now tho06:09
DaSkreechMe either :)06:09
DaSkreechwhat is landscape?06:10
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Jack_Sparrowsorry for the stupid questions. I finally got it..06:12
BilfordI have a scripting question.  when I run a script from the terminal, it works, but when it's run from the cron job thing, it doesnt06:13
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Bilfordit runs some of it06:14
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Bilfordanyone?06:15
DaSkreechDoes anyone still have the kalimoto ogg in examples?06:15
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Bilfordyes06:16
DaSkreechBilford: Can I have it? :-)06:16
timothygrr now I get configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!06:16
Bilfordno06:16
DaSkreechmine got wiped with the last update06:16
DaSkreech:-(06:17
kkathmanyah some things got whammied on my last updat too DaSkreech :)06:17
DaSkreechI liked that song06:17
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DaSkreechkkathman: Whats Landscape?06:18
kkathmanLandscape usually refers to the orientation of a screen06:19
kkathmanlike in a word processor06:19
DaSkreechkkathman: go to adept and uncheck not installed and upgradeable and then look for landscape06:19
DaSkreech Or just fileter on landscape :-)06:19
DaSkreechfilter06:19
DaSkreechit was in the last update06:19
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DaSkreechNewly installed not updated06:21
kkathmanDaSkreech:  cant tell06:22
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DShepherdDaSkreech: hey. sup?06:22
kkathmanlooks like it might be an engine of some sort06:22
DaSkreechDShepherd: Hi06:22
kkathmanI looked in google also06:22
DaSkreechllike sabayon?06:23
DShepherdis that 'I like sabayon'?06:23
DaSkreechWell it's obviously new06:23
DaSkreechno llike sabayon06:23
kkathmanDaSkreech:  I tried Googling and came up dry06:23
DaSkreechProbably is too new for Google to pick up06:24
DaSkreech:-D06:24
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kkathmanguess so06:24
chxIs it normal that X eats three _gigs_ of virt. RAM??  4676 tty7     RLs+  25:20  27879  1470 3138413 449384 43.4 /usr/bin/X06:24
DShepherdDaSkreech: there's a package on kde like sadayon?06:24
Snake[Sleep] kkathman: supp06:24
DaSkreechI don't know06:24
DaSkreechthat's what I'm trying to fig06:25
DaSkreechDShepherd: When was your last update?06:25
DaSkreechsince day?06:25
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DShepherdDaSkreech: its been awhile. I am updating now.. should be finished in 5 minutes or so. why do you ask?06:25
crimsunchx: normal? depends on your use. it's certainly not out of the ordinary.06:25
DaSkreechDShepherd: When you are done check if yo uhave a package called landscape06:26
chxcrimsun: really?? I never seen this before -- this began yesterday (I am running Dapper)06:26
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chxcrimsun: it seems that it's closely related to running Azureus06:26
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DShepherdDaSkreech: ok..06:27
crimsunchx: seems normal, then...06:28
crimsuncompare with the jvm processes' virt06:28
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chxis my guess correct that even if after Azureus stopped this won't shrink?06:30
DaSkreechIt will once Linux gets bored of it being there06:30
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paperangelwhats a good firewall06:32
DaSkreechfirestarter06:32
paperangelhey skreech06:33
paperangelthis is drogen06:33
paperangeli updated successfully06:33
DShepherdDaSkreech: my keyboard gave out on me lastnight. i had to get a new one06:33
paperangelbut i fucked up a xorg.conf file06:33
paperangelso i had to format06:33
DaSkreechYou bought a new one06:33
DaSkreechlanguage06:33
DaSkreechG rated Channel06:33
thompamy xorg and nvidia were reall just messed up in dapper, but now works06:33
DShepherdDaSkreech: yeah i bought one06:34
paperangeloh sorry man06:34
thompastarts with mismatch error06:34
paperangelwhat card you got06:34
DaSkreechCool06:34
thompamine is a 660 i think,06:34
thompathe notebook has a sony with nvidia06:34
thompawhere is system info06:35
paperangelmines a 42006:35
thompathis one glows blue06:35
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paperangel?06:35
wordin gparted in order to resize a partition you have to unmount it..if i unmounted the current partition would my comp crash?06:36
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paperangel!sources06:36
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource06:36
l_ris kubuntu planned for 1th june as ubuntu?06:36
wordYes, pretty sure.06:36
thompathe monitor is 1440x90006:36
DaSkreechcan someone go to http://www.dreamfall.com/ in konqi?06:37
thompaim running kubuntu rc right now06:37
DaSkreechDShepherd: go to http://www.dreamfall.com/ in Firefox and click on media06:37
DShepherdDaSkreech: "Landscape is a web-based tool for managing Ubuntu systems." is that wat I am looking for06:37
m5mCan Ipsec be considered fairly strong security for an unencrypted wifi network?06:37
DShepherd?06:37
DaSkreechYup06:37
thompai dont have an nvidia logo, which is strange06:38
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DShepherdDaSkreech: i havent seen it yet. checking now06:38
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DShepherdDaSkreech: is it supposed to be installed by default?06:38
DaSkreechYup06:38
DaSkreechJust turned up today06:39
DaSkreechseems to have no files though06:39
DShepherdDaSkreech: is it in my PATH?06:39
thompamy nvida is screensavers are working above par though06:39
DShepherdDaSkreech: or ur path to be exact06:39
DaSkreechIs what in your path?06:39
DShepherdDaSkreech: the landscape program (command)06:40
DShepherdDaSkreech: where am i supposed to be looking06:40
DaSkreechIt's not a program it's a dummy package06:40
DaSkreech Like ubuntu-desktop06:40
DaSkreechBut it has no files it seems06:41
DShepherdok06:41
thompaedubuntu?06:41
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DShepherdDaSkreech: oh.. yeah.. i have it installed. it says the package is empty though06:42
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DaSkreechRight06:43
DaSkreechI'm trying to find out if anyone knows what that is06:43
pppoe_dudecan things like the back/forward buttons in konqueror be modified?06:43
DShepherdok06:43
DaSkreechSeems strange to start laying foundations for something a few days before shipping06:43
pppoe_dudeas in different icons, etc...06:44
DShepherdDaSkreech: can adept tell when packages  have been installed.. as in the date when it was isntalled?06:45
DaSkreechPossibly give me asecond06:45
DaSkreechThough I'm not the best person to ask :-)06:45
DaSkreechDShepherd: yes06:46
DShepherdDaSkreech: you use kde?06:46
DaSkreechDShepherd: I mean I have to go research :-) I can't tell you off the top of my head06:46
DShepherdDaSkreech: you use adept?06:46
DaSkreechI'm not uber ultra geek noob yet :-)06:46
DaSkreechJust a +4 ultra gekk noob :-(06:47
DShepherdDaSkreech: ahh.. well care to research?06:47
DaSkreechDShepherd: But yes you can06:47
DaSkreechDShepherd: I answered you :)06:47
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DShepherdDaSkreech: you did? what was the answer?06:48
DaSkreechDShepherd: Look up06:48
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DShepherdi did.. i seeth no answer..06:49
james___Dell (Broadcom) wireless card drivers.06:49
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DShepherdyou said to if you use kde06:49
DShepherdright?06:49
DaSkreechno06:51
DaSkreechI said yes to your first question06:51
DaSkreechthen I said but yes you can again :)06:51
DaSkreechDShepherd: Course on my screen my answer is above any of your questions except the first :)06:51
DaSkreechYay net latency06:52
DShepherdDaSkreech: i guess.. what was your answer?06:52
DShepherdoh ok06:53
DShepherdkool06:53
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DShepherdDaSkreech: so what date is on the lanscape-client package?06:53
DaSkreechToday06:53
DShepherdDaSkreech: ok06:54
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Shadow_milI am missing Xsession, though I have Xserver06:56
Shadow_milI need help...06:56
Shadow_mil:(06:56
DaSkreechWINDOWS IS TERRIBLE!06:58
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DShepherdDaSkreech: the door it not so bad07:00
DaSkreechlol07:00
DShepherdDaSkreech: its easier to fit thru at times07:00
DaSkreechAhh God bless Dwight07:00
DShepherdthank you thank u very much07:00
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thompawindus sucks07:01
DShepherdDaSkreech: what's with the link you sent?07:02
DaSkreechWhen?07:02
orient2000windows can play mp3 and dvd's07:02
DaSkreechDreamfall?07:02
DShepherdyes07:03
DaSkreechcan You get the 4 wallpapers for me? :-)07:03
thompa!realplayer07:03
ubotuit has been said that realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:03
uscg_coreyanyone here familiar w/ Konversation?07:03
thompain windows i have to remove those things first07:03
DaSkreechuscg_corey: No but what do you need to know?07:03
uscg_coreywell i want some commands to run after i connect to a server, but the connect commands in konversation execute while its connecting which wont work..was wondering how i can make 2 or 3 commands run when im connected to server automatically07:04
DShepherdhehe07:04
DShepherdthat was pasted.. i bet it was07:04
thompatry installing adobe in windows07:04
DShepherdDaSkreech: they ugly, imho07:05
DaSkreechI can't see them :-)07:05
DaSkreechThats why I wanted to find some way to grab them07:05
DaSkreechif you just hack the JS behind the flash and give me the root folder I can find my way into the server myself :-)07:06
DShepherdDaSkreech: how come you cant see them?07:06
DaSkreechWell konqi is loading the page off the edge of the browser and Firefox blinks then resets the page07:07
_rince_mrgn07:08
DShepherdDaSkreech: when you click to download the page?07:09
DaSkreechYeah07:09
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thompathe only thing i have to install is realplayer in linux07:10
DShepherdDaSkreech: well i have the same difficulty here07:10
DaSkreechAh07:10
DShepherdDaSkreech: i have 13 new updates :-)07:11
thompathere are 10 times more word processors and programs that just work in linux07:11
DaSkreechI have like 407:11
DaSkreech:-)07:11
DShepherdthompa: yeah ubuntu is kool like that07:11
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thompai like koffice best07:12
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DShepherdhttp://www.osalt.com/ <-- this is an awesome site skreech. DaSkreech07:13
khaijeanyone know if X-forwarding requires any particular packages? I've had a heck of a time trying to figure why mine won't work07:13
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thompabut openoffice does nice pdfs07:13
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thompasymantic is great, he he07:13
thompafor the masses, keep them in line07:14
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DaSkreechOS-alt07:15
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DaSkreechnot O! Salt :)07:15
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thomparealplayer is better if you just go to realone.com07:15
thompait takes you to their linux page07:15
DaSkreechWhat happened to helix?07:16
cheerutahcan someone help me set up a wireless card07:16
thompaits still there, same thing07:16
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DaSkreechlo07:17
cheerutahcan anyone help me07:17
amorphislo07:17
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thompathe ubuntu cd has abiword on it for windows07:18
thompajust ask07:18
thompadont tell07:18
thompai could only get realplayer to play bbc radio07:19
DaSkreechYou need more? :-)07:20
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thompai am using konversation in kubuntu dapper07:20
thompafirst i installed ubuntu rc, then konversation, and then kubuntu.07:21
DaSkreechcheerutah: Have you checked the wiki?07:22
amorphisgrrrrrrrrrrrr aaaaaaaaarh, im installing M$ windows on laptop and it crashes on installation ... how bad can u be07:22
thompaon the real.one web site they left out sudo07:24
Quintokwell, atleast you know where your problem is amorphis07:24
cheerutahi have a VERIZON wireless card how do i set it up07:26
cheerutahno how do i do that07:26
thompais that the aircard?07:27
cheerutahyeah07:28
chavocheerutah, I had it running once and it wasn't easy07:28
cheerutahkyocera kpc65007:28
chavoOh I have the 5220 ev-do07:29
cheerutahi don't know hw to even set up the wireless card that is built into my laptop07:29
cheerutahcan someone remote my laptop and set it up07:30
thompawhats the support specs say. no linux support?07:30
thompahe07:30
cheerutahno clue what your asking07:31
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thompahow are you connected now on the internet?07:31
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cheerutahcan you help07:32
thompacable07:32
cheerutahwhats wiki07:32
thompano i im too tired sorry07:32
amorphiswiki = encyclopedia07:32
amorphissome sort of webpage where ppl write down things that can help u07:33
thompais that in utah07:33
cheerutahyeah07:33
thompagood luck anyway..07:33
thompacall their tech support07:33
thompatell them its in windows07:34
thompaplay stupid07:34
cheerutahlol07:34
amorphischeerutah: wless and linux is not goof combination :s ... yet07:34
amorphisgood*07:34
cheerutahmy roommate got it to work but hes not here to ask07:35
chavoI have a linksys wireless card for my laptop and it works with kubuntu out of the box07:35
nixternal98% of the wireless products will work in linux07:36
thompathe wireless in dapper is the best ive ever seen07:36
thompaipw2200 is working real well07:36
nixternallinux and wireless is the best combination you can have...safer07:36
thompajust some of the distros leave it out07:37
cheerutahoh07:37
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thompathe main problem is that windows is pre-installed, so they are biased07:40
AdmiralFTWthompa: its a user bias though07:41
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thompaif you dont have a second option anyway07:43
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rosemaryhi I have d/l 6.06 and tried apt-get install firefox but didn't install - is firefox called something else in kubuntu?  Tried mozilla-firefox also07:46
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thompamozilla-firefox07:47
thompanevermind07:47
thompadid you try adept?07:47
rosemaryyes - it's not listed07:48
thompadid you search keyword firefox?07:49
PyroMithrandirmaybe it's in another repo07:49
rosemaryPackage mozilla-firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:49
rosemaryThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:49
rosemaryis only available from another source07:49
AdmiralFTWrosemary: what are you trying to do07:49
rosemaryinstall firefox browser07:50
thompafirefox is in the main pool07:50
thompaim running kubuntu07:50
AdmiralFTWtry sudo dpkg-reconfigure firefox07:50
rosemaryAdmiralFTW: I did "sudo apt-get install firefox" and mozilla-firefox07:51
AdmiralFTWerr i think there is a space between dpkg and the hyphen07:51
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rosemaryAdmiralFTW: that gives me what looks like a man page about dphg07:54
rosemarydpkg!07:54
thompaalso konqueror should work on everything07:55
rosemaryI happen to like firefox :-)07:56
thompaubuntu uses it07:56
rosemaryand thought it was available for 6.0607:56
PyroMithrandirit is available for 6.0607:56
thompakonqueror is also a file browser07:56
AdmiralFTWthompa: its many things07:57
AdmiralFTWrosemary: hmm07:57
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chavokonqueror is actually not that much07:57
thompai use konqueror with fish command07:57
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chavoit's just a container for many things07:57
AdmiralFTWhave you tried installing it using Automatix07:57
chavoyes fish rocks07:57
AdmiralFTWalso what version of Ubuntu07:58
PyroMithrandirwhat's fish?07:58
amorphiswhats the name of the desktop menu ... the one where u can view u pc stats and stuff07:58
rosemaryAdmiralFTW: I'm taking another look at add/remove programmes07:58
chavofish is secure shell connection07:58
chavoit can use ssh or sftp07:58
PyroMithrandirrosemary, look at adept rather than add/remove programs07:58
rramosor synaptic07:59
chavoyou can use it from open/save dialogs too07:59
rosemaryPyroMithrandir: okay07:59
thompai use kinfocenter07:59
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rramoshi everyone07:59
Zairewow looks lively in here tonight lol07:59
chavohi07:59
PyroMithrandir'lo08:00
rramoshi08:00
chavono it's lively this morning :P08:00
thompathe opengl section in kinfocenter was real good08:00
AdmiralFTWamorphis: superkaramba?08:00
Zairenight where I am lol08:00
amorphisthompa: yes but there is some sort of transparant version08:00
pageyunable to install kuickshow08:00
pageyany help guys08:00
pagey?08:00
AdmiralFTWamorphis: yea superkaramba08:00
rramosdoes someone knows if ubuntu supports GLX?08:01
chavoamorphis, superkaramba puts widgets on your desktop08:01
amorphisty08:01
chavorramos, waht video card?08:01
rramosati radeon x600 pro guru08:01
Zaireyeps it supports glx just sketchy with nvidia's08:01
rramosno ati?08:01
chavoyes although more people have trouble with ati's drivers than nvidiaas08:02
Zairelol not from where Im sitting lol08:02
rramosy used that one that is live cd and works perfectly , but i want intall version08:02
chavooh you mean XGL?08:02
chavoyeah I'm running it08:03
chavoyou haven't installed kubuntu yet?08:03
rramosyes i am on a kubuntu08:03
rramoskubuntu at work an at home ubuntu08:03
chavowhat version did you install?08:04
rramosubuntu 5.1008:04
rramoskubuntu 608:04
chavook it's much easier to get running on 6.0608:04
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rramos:D08:04
pageyhello all08:04
chavohere's a bunch of links to get you started http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14835108:04
pageyI am not able to install kuickshow08:05
rramosOHH TAHNK YOU08:05
chavoI have nvidia card and it was easy08:05
pageywhat is another good pic viewer?08:05
chavopagey, try gwenview] 08:05
pageycheers08:05
PyroMithrandiror kview if you don't want to get all the gnome stuff08:05
AdmiralFTWpagey: thats what i use08:05
rramosyou  know also an istallation that comes with glx?08:06
chavoit's nice and digikam if you're taking a lot of pictures08:06
pageyall good08:06
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chavorramos, I don't think any thing comes with it by default08:06
pageyjust completed ....,,,cheers08:06
rramosoks08:07
rramos:D08:07
johannes__hi room! one thing how could i configure kopete 0.12 beta 2 that it opens op with certain channels already opened at start?08:07
chavorramos,  do you have the ati 3d drivers set up already?08:07
rramosmm that pc is on windows but I want it on linux with glx08:08
rramosiv tested wid a ubuntu glx live08:08
AdmiralFTWPyroMithrandir: yea i try to stay away from that Gnome stuff08:10
chavogwenview is a KDE app08:11
PyroMithrandiroh, really?08:11
PyroMithrandirit starts with a g, so I figured, you know...08:11
chavotrue lol08:11
chavono it's kde, try it out if you haven't08:12
PyroMithrandiroh, no, it's what I use08:12
chavook08:12
PyroMithrandirI just have kde and gnome installed, so I didn't know which it was from08:12
johannes__how could i configure kopete 0.12 beta 2 that it opens op with certain channels already opened at start?08:12
chavoyeah with the gtk-qt engine gnome apps look like kde anyway08:12
rosemaryAdmiralFTW: it was the repsoitories - were disabled08:13
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AdmiralFTWyea thats what i was thinking08:16
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rramosthank you chavo , ill see it at work tomorrow08:16
chavorramos, np08:16
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rosemaryAdmiralFTW: should have remembered to do that first - while since I tried kubuntu08:22
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vega-anyone know if this is going to be fixed in kubuntu dapper: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gamin/+bug/3658108:24
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rosemaryif I set up and add a user would that person also have sudo priviledges?08:28
noiesmoonly first user added at install by defult08:28
Hobbseerosemary: no, you have to add them to sudoers..08:28
rosemaryHobbsee: okay so that provides some security08:29
Hobbseeyes08:29
rosemaryalthough prevents them from learning I guess08:29
rosemaryneed to think about it08:30
Hobbseerosemary: just a FYI - they can get in by going into recovery mode, and then they get full root access, from grub.08:30
crimsunbeing added to %admin is a learning step.08:30
rosemaryHobbsee: thinking of kubuntu for my sister who is a win 98 user, but she is smart so would learn08:30
kkathmanHey Hobbsee :)08:31
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Hobbseerosemary: ah ok - is this a computer you share, or her own one?08:31
Hobbseehi kkathman08:31
rosemaryguess I could give her this old box to play about and advise her to use sudo and learn08:31
Hobbseerosemary: that's probably a good idea :P08:32
rosemaryHobbsee: it will be only for her use - I actually run PCLos on my machine08:32
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AdmiralFTWrosemary: she might learn best just having to use Linux08:32
Hobbseerosemary: give her sudo access, links to the howtos, and the install cds...how old's your sister?08:32
AdmiralFTWwhen my Windows Xp install broke, i switched my main comp to all Linux and learned from there08:32
Zairebest way to go08:32
rosemarytried kubuntu but after having the root/user thing drummed into me felt uncomfortable with kubuntu's way of using sudo08:33
Hobbseeah yes08:33
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rosemaryHobbsee: she's 40 odd, but I started using linux at 50 odd, so she'll manage08:33
Hobbseegotta be careful of where you run rm -rf * from...08:33
Hobbseerosemary: hehe08:33
noiesmosudo can be painfull when you've just finished editing a file and remember you didn't sudo first08:33
Hobbseecool08:33
Zaireumm quick question is it possible to get the updated KDE for redhat 9?08:34
rosemaryHobbsee: guess I'll never run that command08:34
Hobbseerosemary: well, it removes everything - so as long as you're running it in the direction that you want...08:34
rosemaryI like what I see in kubuntu so maybe give it a better and more thorough try this time08:34
Hobbseeer, directory08:34
noiesmoZaire, it'd be fun sorting out all the dependancies but hay probably possible08:35
rosemaryHobbsee: yes - been warned about it before :-)08:35
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Zaireyea issues prob for sure lol Im just running RH9 until I get my ATI card08:35
Hobbseerosemary: nothing's stopping you from using sudo -s, i fyou're going around and installing ndiswrapper or something, which involves a lot of sudo, it's easier to sudo -s, then run the commands - and then exit afterwards08:35
Hobbseerosemary: in my view, it's quicker - run sudo  -s, do what you want to do, hit exit - saves you having to log otu, and back in again, if you dont want to be root08:36
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rosemaryHobbsee: my PC has on board graphics - when I upgrade I think I'll have a go at building, but that's a while off08:36
Hobbseeooh fun :)08:36
Hobbseerosemary: how much ram do you have noe?08:36
Hobbsee*now?08:37
rosemarynever done it before - but be good to learn how08:37
Hobbseerosemary: i have a link, do tell when you want it...08:37
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Hobbseeactually, building things doesnt really require that much sudo - well, installing the deb, and some of pbuilder...08:37
rosemary512 on main box, 256 on this one with kubuntu, but it's an old box which I've had trouble getting things to go - kubuntu gets a big tick for installing and working quite fast08:38
rosemaryHobbsee: link for ?08:38
Hobbseebuilding things08:38
Hobbseeah yes...that's not terribly nice to build on...08:38
Zaireummm where can I get a packaged file of KDE or is it even possible?08:39
rosemaryokay that'd be good - hmm this box is slow and for some reason my connection is down on main box, need link there08:39
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Hobbseeit'd be fast with xfce, too...08:39
Hobbseea lighter window manager...08:39
rosemaryHobbsee: I like xfce though haven't used it for a while08:40
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rosemarycouldn't get it going properly in pclos so went back to kde08:40
Hobbseeah okay08:40
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Hobbseei've tried it here - it flew...but i didnt find it very obvious, and this was before all the kde dpi was set to match gnome and xfce's, so all the fonts were weirdly sized...08:41
rosemaryI used it for ages in mandriva 2005 before I went to pclos - was very fast as you say, took a while to get used to08:42
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rosemarymight try it on this old box - but only 3,2G hard drive so might be getting close to capacity after installing firefox and xchat08:43
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rosemarycould get rid of xchat though as this kconversation seems okay08:44
Hobbseeouch08:46
Hobbseeyes, for most things it is.08:46
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johannes__how could i configure kopete that it opens op with certain channels already opened at start?08:48
Hobbseejohannes__: irc channels?08:49
johannes__yes08:49
johannes__Hobbsee yes08:49
rosemaryHobbsee: could I have that link for building things and I'll wirte it down long hand - thanks08:49
Hobbseejohannes__: edit the account, advanced, see the "Run the following commands on connect" and add /j #channelname08:50
Hobbseei expect08:50
Hobbseerosemary: should be in http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu08:50
Hobbseeer08:50
Hobbseehttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation08:50
johannes__Hobbsee /j instead of join?08:51
Hobbseejohannes__: both work08:51
Hobbseejohannes__: used konversation before?  that's a more dedicated IRC client..08:51
rosemaryoops time - gotta go, back laterthanks Hobbseecatch you again sometime08:51
rosemarybye all08:51
Hobbseecya08:51
Zairedamn its impossible to find a single package containing kde for RH9 :S08:52
johannes__Hobbsee  i used xchat, but i have often kopete open when i want to chat in msn and in irc, its more handy then08:53
Hobbseeah okay08:53
_nano_where can i see the release notes of ubuntu repository upgrades ? like where can i see the  changes between xorg version 7.0.0-0ubuntu44 and 7.0.0-0ubuntu45?08:54
Hobbsee_nano_: aptitude changelog packagename, or just get the source, and look in debian/changelog08:55
_nano_Hobbsee: thanks ..lemme try that08:56
Hobbsee_nano_: there are usually no "release notes" as such08:56
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Zaireis there any way to get kde 3.5 for redhat9 being that its outdated more or less?08:56
Hobbseethe most detailed stuff's in the changelog - and maybe some is listed on launchpad08:56
HobbseeZaire: ask that in #redhat or something.08:56
_nano_Hobbsee: launchpad?08:57
_nano_!launchpad08:57
ubotulaunchpad is probably a collection of services for projects in the open source universe - https://launchpad.net/08:57
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Zaireredhat 9 is unsupported has been for about 2 years at the lest unfortunately I was just wondering if its possible for me to find a packaged source file that I could compile and install08:57
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Zairesrry to go kinda off topic os wise but rh is about the only version save mandriva that runs stable for me08:58
HobbseeZaire: oh, sources?  kde.org08:59
ZaireI know the site and all but there is multiple sources on there and I can't tell which is which :S09:00
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wordwhats the command to copy?09:00
_nano_Hobbsee: check https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server09:00
_nano_Hobbsee: there's no mention of the version that's there in the repos09:00
_nano_:-s09:00
noiesmoword, cp09:01
wordthanks09:01
Hobbsee_nano_: which source did you want?  xserver-xorg?09:02
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_nano_Hobbsee: yeah i found that package to be upgradable.. i just wanted to make sure..coz i'm scared of xserver config changes..had pretty bad experiences :P09:03
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Hobbsee_nano_: breezy or dapper?09:03
_nano_Hobbsee: dapper09:03
Zaireone thing I was looking for was preferably a single archived source file for kde but get the feeling that Im not likely to get one :S09:03
Hobbsee_nano_: what'd you say the version was, again?09:03
_nano_7.0.0-0ubuntu4409:04
HobbseeZaire: i'd have no idea - i'd imagine you'd need the sources, and to compile them yourself, or find some repo somewhere.09:04
Zairethx anyway i'll see what I can find09:04
Hobbsee_nano_: odd.  xserver-xorg shows me Version: 7.0.0-0ubuntu1509:04
Hobbsee_nano_: they wont have broken X this late though09:04
_nano_Hobbsee: try reloading your synaptic?09:05
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_nano_Hobbsee: i have multiverse and universe repos enabled as well09:06
Hobbseesame version.  weird.09:06
Hobbseeyep09:06
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imbrandon_heya Hobbsee ;)09:06
_nano_Hobbsee: i'm on mepis right now..should that matter?09:06
_ODIN1odin1|home09:06
_nano_Hobbsee: i mean seeing different versions that is09:06
Hobbsee_nano_: likely, yes.09:06
Hobbseehi imbrandon_09:06
_nano_Hobbsee: but the repos are same09:06
Hobbseehmmm...okay...09:06
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_nano_lol09:07
Hobbsee_nano_: what was the name of the packages you were looking at?09:07
nixternalHobbsee: well hello there09:07
_nano_Hobbsee: xserver-xorg09:07
Hobbseehi  nixternal09:07
Hobbsee_nano_: hmm...okay...09:07
HobbseeFilename: pool/main/x/xorg/xserver-xorg_7.0.0-0ubuntu15_all.deb09:08
Hobbseeodd09:08
imbrandon__nano_: the repos arent EXACTLY the same for mepis , they just use dapper "also"09:08
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Hobbseeoh dear.  to me, that spells disaster.  weird.09:09
_nano_imbrandon_: but the package version name contains ubuntu09:09
imbrandon_Hobbsee: yes i think so too ;)09:09
nixternalimbrandon_: when did mepis start doing that?09:09
imbrandon__nano_: that dosent mean a whole lot, i can make a package from SuSE say ubuntu ;)09:10
_nano_nixternal: like a 2 months ago..09:10
nixternali read they were heading kubuntu..but when i used it, the repositories were still mepis09:10
_nano_Hobbsee: but even your version doesn't find mention in lanchpad09:10
nixternalreally...i was using simply 2 months ago on my laptop and had mepis repositories09:10
imbrandon_nixternal: they have a mix of both09:10
_nano_nixternal: you would have to install the beta version to do that...09:10
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imbrandon_mepis == nightmare actualy ;)09:11
nixternalya..you know what i do remember reading that...i said forget mepis because mepislovers.org wasn't love at all...not like ubuntu/kubuntu was09:11
nixternalmepis isn't all that bad...i didn't have much trouble with it...but their community wasn't all that great...i just hope some of their hotheads don't head this way truthfully...09:12
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nixternallol09:12
imbrandon_hahaha09:12
nixternali had to do it man09:12
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nixternalpwn you at your own game09:12
_nano_imbrandon_: well...yeah true kubuntu/ubuntu have a pretty nice loving caring community :D ..but mepis isn't that bad as well :)09:12
nixternalmepis artwork is better ;)09:13
_nano_imbrandon_: but let's not digress...back to package versioning!!09:13
sheldonc#kubuntu is just an alias for #kde-offtopic  :)09:13
nixternallol09:13
imbrandon__nano_: its not a bad os but when you mix and match its bad, ie debian isnt bad and ubuntu isnt bad but ubuntu with debian unstale repos is bad ;) see what i mean  ?09:13
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_nano_imbrandon_: yea...but that risk is possible in any distro09:14
imbrandon__nano_: even more when its done by default like mepis ;)09:14
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_nano_imbrandon_: hmm...but i still think mepis doesn't rename ubuntu package versions ...09:15
imbrandon_why not ubuntu renames debian versions09:16
ririhi09:16
imbrandon_when things are added / changed09:16
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_nano_imbrandon_: they do..but they don't name it debian-x-x-x09:16
imbrandon_depends, if its an upstream change yes they do09:17
_nano_what's an upstream change?09:17
imbrandon_it all depends on mepis packaging specs09:17
Hobbseedo they sync from us, or from debian?09:17
_nano_Hobbsee: they used to sync from debian..now the sync from ubuntu09:17
_nano_*they09:17
Hobbseeah okay09:18
imbrandon_Hobbsee: they dont sync from us the run their own repos for their changed packages and use our repos directly for the otherss09:18
imbrandon_no syncing09:18
imbrandon_brb09:19
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_nano_imbrandon_: ok let's assume I am using kubuntu...but still the question of finding changelogs retains its merit09:19
Hobbsee_nano_: aptitude changelog packagename, or just get the source, and look in debian/changelog09:21
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ririis there an easy and automatic way to add flash java ?09:23
imbrandonahh much better09:23
imbrandon!restricted09:23
ubotu[restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats09:23
ririi went on ubuntu after a search but most of the multiverse file don't work09:23
imbrandonsudo apt-get install sun-java-jre09:24
ririisn't it written somewhere ?09:24
imbrandonsudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre09:24
ririthanks09:24
imbrandonthe senond one09:24
ririyes09:24
ririi guessed as it's the j version09:25
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ririim: impossible to find the packet09:25
imbrandonyou will need to "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and "sudo update-alternatives --config jar" also when done09:25
imbrandonriri, then you dont have universe and multivers enabled correctly09:26
ririok09:26
ririwhere is the correct setting ?09:26
ririi look on ub and kub09:26
imbrandonmake your sources.list look like this http://ubuntustuff.sytes.net/sources.list09:26
ririok09:27
imbrandonby "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"09:27
_nano_Hobbsee, imbrandon: check https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+package/xserver-xorg09:27
jogangola a todos09:27
imbrandon_nano_, what about it ?09:27
Hobbseehmmm...interesting09:27
_nano_it has  xserver-xorg 7.0.0-0ubuntu4509:28
jogancomo hago para saber en que hda esta mi guindows?09:28
_nano_imbrandon: so it's not a package renaming issue09:28
PyroMithrandir!es09:28
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:28
Hobbsee_nano_: very weird.09:28
imbrandonok i'm missing something, all i was saying is mepis is not PURE kubuntu09:28
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_nano_imbrandon: it's not a mepis thingy..that's for sure09:29
_nano_Hobbsee: yeah i know09:29
imbrandonwhats the problem ? i came in late09:29
_nano_imbrandon: hobbsee was getting ubuntu15 as the latest version...even after reloading...although the latest version is ubuntu4509:29
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imbrandonHobbsee, what does sudo apt-cache showpkg xserver-xorg show  as the version on your ?09:31
ririim: i use kwrite09:31
ririnano is old unix crap09:31
ririlol09:31
_nano_x-(09:31
ririlike me :)09:31
imbrandon!language09:31
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.09:31
imbrandon;)09:31
_nano_:D09:31
Hobbseehmmm...okay...09:31
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_nano_I take offence riri x-(09:32
ririi didn't mean nano man09:32
ririi didn't mean you09:32
_nano_lol i'm just kidding :P09:32
imbrandoni meant your use of the word "cr*p"09:32
riribut the nano editor ! lol09:32
Hobbseehttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/74630109:32
ririok09:32
ririi am french09:32
_nano_riri: heh09:32
wordmeh stop saying word ;p09:32
riricrap means nothing to me09:32
Hobbseenano's great, dont knock it :P09:32
ririwell09:33
imbrandonriri, in english its not nice to say in public ;)09:33
ririif you would have learn it like i did09:33
_nano_Hobbsee: you mean they are the same thing?09:33
ririok ...my deep apologize09:33
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Hobbsee_nano_: i've got no idea why my apt-cache search is showing differently - looks like mine got updated09:33
imbrandonriri, i understand english is not your native toung thats why i told you ;)09:33
ririi prefer k... editor :) lol09:34
imbrandonno no kate is fine , just not "crap"09:34
imbrandonkate and kwrite etc etc etc09:34
_nano_Hobbsee: but i see no reason why kubuntu and ubuntu would have different version names for the same thingy09:34
ririok09:34
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imbrandonriri, anyhow use "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"09:35
ririyes thanks09:35
imbrandonto do the same thing with kate09:35
Hobbsee_nano_: they cant do.09:35
ririi needed a long time to understand why kate alone didn't work ... i am not used to sudo09:35
ririlol09:35
imbrandonnano kubuntu and ubuntu are exactly the same version09:35
_nano_Hobbsee: what a mystery! lol09:36
Hobbseevery09:36
_nano_imbrandon: yeah that's what i guessed...but do click on Hobbsee's link09:36
ririand gedit too..09:36
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Hobbseelooks like the earlier one was off the cd, then the apt-cache show hasnt upgraded it09:36
imbrandonriri, becouse of the file being opened needed to have sudo privlages09:36
imbrandonHobbsee, try "sudo apt-get clean" and the apt-get update and then relook at the cache09:37
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prashantk76hi i want to change xfac-desktop to k-desktop in Xubuntu, how i can do that ?09:37
_nano_prashantk76: apt-get install kde-desktop ?09:37
imbrandon!+kubuntu-desktop09:37
ubotukubuntu-desktop is probably type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" without the quotes in a terminal to install Kubuntu along side Ubuntu09:37
Hobbseebah, oh well09:37
_nano_oops kubuntu-desktop :P09:38
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prashantk76what is apt-get ?09:38
_nano_!apt09:38
ubotusomebody said apt was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto09:38
prashantk76sorry i am new to linux09:38
imbrandonits the package manager for *ubuntu09:38
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ririfortunatly this irc is very good09:38
ririthanks chaps..09:39
imbrandonnp;)09:39
_nano_riri: it's the people..not irc :P09:39
imbrandonhave fun riri09:39
ririyes09:39
riritrue09:39
ririthanks to the people then :)09:39
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_nano_imbrandon: what does your synaptic tell about the xorg version?09:40
Hobbseeimbrandon: you sure?09:40
ririi just didn't solve my son 's vmware problem09:40
imbrandon_nano_, i dont use synaptic but i can look in adept in just a sec, hold on09:40
_nano_imbrandon: k09:40
ririi guess it's more a rights problem09:40
ZaireI got a question do kubuntu dapper or any of the other distros of ubuntu have and issue with amd hyper transport?09:40
_nano_riri: teach your son to solve his own problems :P09:40
imbrandonZaire, not that i'm aware of , that would have to do with the kernel and as far as i know everything is a-ok09:41
Zairehmmm just thought I would ask cause my sempron64 has 800Mhz hyper transport09:41
ririwell it's not it's own problem09:42
ririmaybe it's a bug in kub ???09:42
ririi never meet this before09:42
ririnot being able to copy a file09:42
ririand a not solve problem is always a bad hidden surprise one day or the other ..09:43
prashantk76i was trying apt-get install kde-desktop but it gave me admin error09:43
_nano_prashantk76: it's sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:44
_nano_prashantk76: don't forget the sudo09:44
prashantk76ok thanks but what is sudo means09:44
imbrandon_nano_, here is my adept info for xorg ....... http://imbrandon.sytes.net/misc/adept.png09:44
_nano_prashantk76: execute as root09:44
imbrandonprashantk76, it means run whatever with super user privligaes09:44
prashantk76ok cool thanks09:45
_nano_imbrandon: checking09:45
prashantk76its working09:45
_nano_imbrandon: wow your screen has pretty high resolution :)09:45
imbrandonheh09:46
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_nano_imbrandon: so your version is showing same as mine..ubuntu4509:46
_nano_i mean upgradable version09:46
imbrandonno thats what i have installed09:47
_nano_imbrandon: meaning?09:47
imbrandonmeaning thats what is running09:47
_nano_imbrandon: oh yea in my case it's upgradable i mean :P09:47
_nano_my bad :P09:47
imbrandoni still fail to see your problem ?09:47
_nano_imbrandon: it wasn't a problem, but a query..on how to see the changelogs :P09:48
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_nano_imbrandon: and then we had a problem because Hobbsee wasn't seeing the same upgradable version09:48
ririthanks im j2 is downloading09:48
imbrandonohh ;)09:48
ririi guess for flash it's the same ?09:49
_nano_imbrandon: and that started the spine-chilling mystery09:49
imbrandonriri, if you type im then hit the "tab" key it will say my name ;)09:49
ririjust change the name ?09:49
_nano_imbrandon: which is yet to be solved :P09:49
imbrandonriri, flash is "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"09:49
ririok09:50
imbrandonriri, try the tab thing ;)09:50
ririi note all this in a file.. lol09:50
riritab thing ??09:50
imbrandonriri, if you type im then hit the "tab" key it will say my name ;)09:50
ririlol09:50
ririsorry09:50
prashantk76i have one more question how i can watch movies on tv screen from laptop (i have video out option "Fn+F5")09:50
imbrandonriri,  also all this is on a webpage at http://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats09:50
_nano_imbrandon: itunes??? how ??09:50
ririis it your real name ?09:51
imbrandonsame way as photoshop ;)09:51
_nano_imbrandon: wine?09:51
imbrandonyes ;)09:51
ririok09:51
_nano_imbrandon: oh darn :P09:51
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imbrandonprashantk76, just use your tv out option while playing a movie ;)09:52
prashantk76i all ready tried that but not working09:52
imbrandonwhats not working about it? need a tad more info bro, do you get an error ? etc09:53
prashantk76i mean when ever i press Fn +F5 there is no display on laptop and tv09:53
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prashantk76normaly when u press fn+f5 display tranfer to tv09:54
ririimbrandon :  Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:55
prashantk76in windows but i dont know about linux09:55
ririis it serious ?09:55
ririwith java09:55
imbrandonriri, type "sudo dpkg --configure -a "09:55
ririok09:55
ririi think it's a problem of licence ?09:56
imbrandonprashantk76, that dosent have anything to do with the OS , its all hardware09:56
imbrandonbuilt into the laptop09:56
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prashantk76ok09:56
imbrandonriri, no it means dpkg got interupted while installing09:57
rirido i decompresse java again ?09:57
imbrandonno09:57
imbrandonriri, type "sudo dpkg --configure -a "09:57
ririyes i did09:57
imbrandonok09:57
imbrandonnow09:57
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ririok09:58
paineshi09:58
ririnothing more09:58
BilfordKonqueror is a good browswer09:58
prashantk76i like Opera09:58
admiral_proFTWFirefox FTW09:58
BilfordI was a FF snob09:58
imbrandonriri you will need to "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and "sudo update-alternatives --config jar" also when done09:59
ririyes09:59
imbrandonfirefox09:59
Bilfordso Konqueror had to be pretty good for me to switch09:59
ririi was looking in my text09:59
ririlol09:59
ririthanks09:59
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Bilforddid you know you can configure Konqueror so you can, for example, just type   g Whatever09:59
Bilfordin the address bar, and it will do a Google search09:59
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imbrandonyou can also in almost anyother browser ;)09:59
Bilfordreally?10:00
Bilfordyou can make your own10:00
imbrandonyes10:00
BilfordI made one for TorrentSpy10:00
Bilfordso I just type  in the address bar    ts  whatImLookingFor10:00
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admiral_proFTWon wikipedia "wiki prime number"10:01
ririimbrandon you are a golden mine !10:01
admiral_proFTWurban dictionary "slang mork"10:01
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admiral_proFTWetc10:01
imbrandonleagle stuff i'm sure, but this is stuff for # kubuntu-offtopic ;)10:01
BilfordFF doesnt obey my mouse settings10:01
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_johnyboyhi using rc 6,06  but pcmcia is only working when i remove pcmcia card en replace it again then everything works fine10:02
Bilfordwhen i use the roller, FF insists on only scrolling one line per click10:02
admiral_proFTWyou can change that10:02
imbrandonBilford, thats a setting10:02
BilfordI messed with about:config10:02
_johnyboyon breezy it was working10:02
imbrandon_johnyboy, make sure you can replicate it 100% of the time and then file a coherant bug report on launchpad.net10:03
BilfordI cant think of anything FF does that Konqueror doesnt10:03
_nano_so what are the advantages of konqueror over firefox? apart from OS integration?10:04
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BilfordI dont know10:04
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admiral_proFTWOS intergration?10:04
imbrandonno del.icio.us plugins etc ;)10:05
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admiral_proFTWi dont need del.icio,ous plug-ins10:05
BilfordI think Konqueror is more configurable10:05
admiral_proFTWnor do i want them10:05
Bilfordsince it's Linux10:05
useratnetvistaHey, anyone know if it is better to use limewire or gtk-gnutella?10:05
admiral_proFTWBillford: I dont see the connection10:05
BilfordaMule10:05
Bilfordall I know is, I can configure it so I type  gi ImageImLookingFOr   for a Google Image serach10:06
paineskmail+spamassassin isn't filtering any spam mail. thunderbird does a much better job with his included junk filter. and yes spamassassin is activated. anyone have an idea ?10:06
Bilfordor  gn Subject  for a Google News search10:06
Bilfordor anything else I want10:06
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useratnetvistaimbrandon As usual, you're a font of useful information.10:07
imbrandonpaines, is it adding spam stuff to the header ?10:07
Bilfordif I want info on a TV show, I just type  tv nameofshow  in the address bar10:07
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imbrandonBilford, yes yes we all know we can do this in any browser, hell even IE you can make your own ;)10:08
admiral_proFTWi could do that too10:08
admiral_proFTWin Firefox10:08
Bilfordhow did you do that in FF10:08
imbrandonbookmarklets10:08
Bilfordoh10:08
imbrandoninfact ff had it first10:08
imbrandon;)10:08
painesimbrandon: let me check10:08
BilfordFF is a great browser10:09
admiral_proFTWor keyword in  your bookmarks10:09
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prashantk76how about "opera" guys........any coments10:09
Bilfordbut Konqueror does everything FF does and I dont have to have another app running10:09
imbrandonBilford, point is this chan is for support , not a fanboy club for any one app ;) to discuss how great one app is or another try offtopic10:09
useratnetvistaNevermind. Limewire only has rpms, and I don't feel like converting it to a debian package.10:10
imbrandonnow if konq wasent working for you though would be diffrent ;)10:10
admiral_proFTWimbrandon, blasphemy10:10
imbrandonuseratnetvista, it has binary packages too10:10
Bilfordok, for support, I need help setting up a Kubuntu Forums search10:10
painesimbrandon: no. seems like spamassassin -L isn't called or something10:10
imbrandonuseratnetvista, try FrostWire also10:11
BilfordI have it set for:   http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?query=\{@}10:11
imbrandonpaines, there is your problem then ;)10:11
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painesimbrandon: yes. i will investigate. thanks10:11
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useratnetvistaimbrandon: It looks exactly like limewire, except with .debs Thanks much.10:13
imbrandonmorning Seveas10:13
Bilfordbut when I use that for a search, it just goes to the Advanced Search page with the Search field filled in with my subject.  I have to click Enter again10:13
Seveasoi10:14
ririimbrandon fla and java is installed10:16
Bilfordoh10:16
BilfordI probably have to add ?quicksearch=110:16
prashantk76one more quick question i have docking station with laptop when ever undock my laptop, laptop hang10:17
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imbrandonBilford, http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=search2&search=\{@}10:20
BilfordI jsut got it10:20
Bilfordhm, mine's different10:20
imbrandonyou have the ubuntu forums anyhow not the kubuntu ones ;)10:20
Bilfordhttp://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?do=process&showposts=0&quicksearch=1&query=\{@}10:21
imbrandonthats te ubuntu forums , mine was for the kubuntu forums as you requested10:21
BilfordI know, I have to make  a Kubuntu one.  I'll use yours ty10:21
ririimbrandon : that's the message ... 3 times we reinstalled kubuntu10:22
ririUnable to copy the source file ./installer/services.sh to the destination file /etc/init.d/vmware.10:22
imbrandonhow are you running the installer ?10:22
ririin su - root10:22
imbrandonthat dosent run it, how are you running it10:23
ririit doesn't do it on my pc10:23
imbrandoni haven installed vmware player many times10:23
imbrandonno problems, using "sudo ./installerfile "10:24
riri./vmware-installer.pl10:24
imbrandonno10:24
imbrandon"sudo ./vmware-installer.pl"10:24
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imbrandonriri, here is a howto for vmware on dapper http://www.linuxforums.org/applications/using_vmware_player_to_test_linux_distributions.html10:26
fadlihi10:27
imbrandonhello10:27
ririthanks10:27
fadlithis is my first day using kubuntu 6.0610:27
GazzaKit's nice isn't it fadli?10:27
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GazzaKhey imbrandon, morning10:28
fadliquite nice, better than kanotix10:28
imbrandonheya GazzaK10:28
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GazzaKimbrandon, do you have a linky to your xbox mods?  remeber you were talking about it, and you said you had a webpage detailing some stuff you had done?10:29
fadliany idea how to install opera web browser in kubuntu?10:29
fadlii stuck when using apt-get10:30
imbrandonnot yet, i havent made it yet ;) i will soon though promis ;)10:30
imbrandonfadli, you cant get opera with apt-get , grab the deb from operas page10:30
imbrandonor try oput firefox ;)10:30
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fadlistuck with dependency : xlib6g10:31
fadlifirefox is nice, but it make my pc slower10:31
imbrandonapt-get install xlib6g then i would assume ;)10:31
fadliit says broken10:31
imbrandoncan you pastebin the error ?10:31
fadli*it says broken packages10:31
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fadliThe following packages have unmet dependencies:10:32
fadli  opera: Depends: xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) but it is not installable or10:32
fadli                  xlibs but it is not installable10:32
fadliE: Broken packages10:32
FritoHeladoHey, I can't figure out how to get a second panel in kde so I can have a launch panel.10:32
imbrandondid you get the deb for your version of dapper ?10:32
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fadlihmm, whats that?10:33
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imbrandonthe os your running ;)10:33
fadliohiknowwhat u mean.10:33
fadlithere is no dapper deb for opera yet. i am using hoary deb10:34
fadlihoary is 5.10, rite?10:34
Bilfordno10:35
Bilford4.something10:35
imbrandonno10:35
imbrandonhoray is 4.1010:35
imbrandonpoint is you need the deb to match the version you have installed10:35
imbrandon!opera10:35
ubotudownload the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser10:35
imbrandonthere ya go ^^10:36
fadli5.10 Breezy Badger. ok10:36
FritoHeladoNevermind. I found it.10:36
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BilfordDapper is coming out in 2 days10:36
lackdianthi, I've got problems with kubuntu due to konqueror, sometimes when I want to open some folder, kubuntu crashes and closes session, do you know if there's some bug about it?10:36
lackdiantit only happens since last 2 or 3 days10:37
Bilfordno, have you rebootted at all?10:38
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Bilfordmaybe a reboot would fix it10:38
Lynourereboots fixing things sounds like MS Windows. But yeah, often after an update xserver restart is in place.10:39
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fadlii think i will use just konqueror now. until opera deb come up in repos10:40
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imbrandonfadli, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser10:40
McNutellafadli, you got opera to work in ubuntu ?10:42
McNutellaoh nm :)10:42
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fadlii am trying10:45
ririthanks imbrandon :)10:47
ririit's starting...10:47
ririlol10:47
riri3 days we are on it :)10:47
fadlithanks all. now i can use opera10:51
imbrandonyw10:52
fadlii must install xlibs; dpkg -i xlibs_6.8.2-77_all.deb10:52
fadliand then opera10:53
visik7ok in breezy framebuffer boot at 1024x768, installed dapper from scratch and now boot at 640x480 I've added vga=791 but when I've a kernel update it fallback to 64010:54
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visik7any way to fix ?10:54
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imbrandonedit the /boot/grub/menu.lst10:56
imbrandon# kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro  <-- look for a line similar to that and make it similar to this # kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro vga=79110:57
ririimbrandon : what is the command .... in kernel noacpi=10:57
ririfor sound card10:58
imbrandonriri, acpi=off10:58
ririthanks ! lol10:58
imbrandonvisik7, make sure to leave the lines commented out though, thats how it works10:59
imbrandonread the instructions there for hints on other things, then when done type "sudo update-grub"10:59
fadlijust adumb question; in linux how to check the distro i am using?10:59
imbrandonfadli, for ubuntu ones type "cat /etc/issue"10:59
visik7thanks imbrandon11:00
fadlilike kernel version,we use uname  -r, how about distro?11:00
imbrandonfadli, for ubuntu ones type "cat /etc/issue"11:00
visik7cool works thanks imbrandon11:00
imbrandonnp11:00
fadlithe cat /etc/isssue thing; it is true in ubuntu; but not in other distros11:01
imbrandonubuntu / kubuntu / edubuntu etc but not others11:02
fadliif there is a standard way to do it11:02
imbrandonno11:02
fadliooo ok,ty11:02
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imbrandonmost of the time it can be found in /etc/motd too but not always11:02
fadliyup. err im going reboot. just finished apt-get upgrade11:04
fadlihope to see u soon. thanks all11:04
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_marcohello11:05
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_marcohow  can i see the file of adept/apt?11:06
_marcothe log file11:06
imbrandon"kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"11:06
_marcoplaease11:06
imbrandonohh log11:06
_marcoi wanna see what the output that cames for few seconds when i install a package.........11:07
_marcook?11:07
imbrandonuse apt on the console11:08
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_marcoehhh11:08
imbrandonit dosent keep a long that i know of, you can run apt-get from the console and it wont shut it off automaticly11:09
imbrandonlog*11:09
_marcoand on Adept there are a log file that save all the output ( i mean message )generated by installation?11:09
_marcohowever ok11:10
_marcolast question... a good guide for sendmail?11:10
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imbrandon_marco, http://tinyurl.com/d9ttt11:12
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GazzaKdoes anyone know what happens if the live cd runs out of availible ram?11:18
[fadli] should be it hanged11:19
imbrandonit will die if no swap is used11:19
GazzaKSysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)Mprocessor1.80GHz at 598 MHz (1196 bogomips), , RAM: 1001/1011MB, 105 proc's, 4.19d up11:19
GazzaKoh dear11:19
imbrandonSysinfo for 'voyager': Linux 2.6.15-23-686 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.93GHz at 2934 MHz (5871 bogomips), HD: 53/147GB, RAM: 738/1002MB, 124 proc's, 1.59h up11:20
GazzaKI have no swap on this machine, it's all ntfs on the hard drives11:20
_marcoimbrandon, no no i want sendmail on my kubuntu11:20
_marconot on server11:20
imbrandon_marco, just follow the sendmail part not the whole thing11:21
imbrandonthen11:21
GazzaKokay, is there a way to save some changes to a usb key?  ie the konversation settings?11:21
imbrandonGazzaK, save your /home dir11:21
imbrandonto the usb key11:21
GazzaKdone, 13mb11:23
imbrandonthat should save all your personal configs11:23
GazzaKwhat file is the konversation settings file saved as? (just to check)11:24
imbrandonhmmm hold on lemme look11:24
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imbrandonGazzaK,  ~/.kde/share/config/konversationrc11:25
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imbrandonwhen you reboot you will probbly have to copy your /home dir back and then log out and relogin for the old settings to work11:26
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blackflaghello all11:27
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blackflagI just upgarde  fromm breezy to dapper using the generated file with source-o-matic11:28
GazzaKokay, will try now :)...11:28
GazzaKthats almost 5 days uptime runnign on a live cd, not bad11:28
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blackflagnow I want the german language file for openoffice211:28
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GazzaKSysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)Mprocessor1.80GHz at 1794 MHz (3590 bogomips), , RAM: 979/1011MB, 111 proc's, 4.19d up11:29
GazzaKit's gone down???11:29
blackflagit has an entry in database butr it is not accesible or dowbloadable11:29
GazzaKi'll try leaving it till it crashes then11:29
blackflagwhere can I get the language file?11:29
blackflagcan someone help?11:29
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GazzaKblackflag: sorry, I have not looked at languages for OpenOffice yet11:32
blackflagI thought dapper comes with the necassary files11:34
blackflagwhy its not working for me?11:35
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Snake[Sleep] blackflag: sudo apt-get install language-pack-de11:36
markcI have a strange netwrok issue with a fresh install of the i386 RC livecd on a newly renovated box... neither wireless or eth networking actually work... the interfaces come up and I can manually assign IPs etc but no amount of pinging or head banging with talk to anything on the other end of various wires or wireless points... is there something in the kernel stack (.proc) that should be turned on to allow basic networking to work perhap11:37
Snake[Sleep] blackflag: im sorry, actually do "sudo apt-get install language-support-de"11:38
Snake[Sleep] my fault11:38
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dsl957Mirgam, are you there ?11:39
dsl957What's your nick ?11:39
dsl957It's me, gnukid11:40
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GazzaKgnu gnu11:42
GazzaKhaha11:43
FritoHeladoimbrandon: Dude, frostwire is so much like limewire it hurts.11:43
dsl957GazzaK, Who are you ?11:43
Jack1hi11:43
Jack1in kontact, the program kalender who is familiar with that?11:43
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GazzaKhttp://korea.gnu.org/image/meditate-middle.png11:43
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GazzaKdsl957: I am GazzaK, nothing to do with Mirgam, sorry, just thought your gnukid was funny11:44
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imbrandonFritoHelado, its based on the same code ;)11:45
FritoHeladoNo kidding...11:45
FritoHeladoBased, or is?11:45
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imbrandonis , just read up on frostwire.com ;)11:45
Snake[Sleep] FritoHelado: basted11:46
Snake[Sleep] based**11:46
Snake[Sleep] imbrandon: it cant be the same code man, no way would limewire let them open source it11:46
imbrandonumm limewire is opensource ;)11:46
imbrandonhas been forever11:46
FritoHeladoYeppers.11:46
Snake[Sleep] I know11:47
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imbrandonfor Snake[Sleep] 11:47
FritoHeladoIt's a little sneaky, but probably not illegal enough to bother prosecutin for.11:47
Snake[Sleep] but im saying thats why I think that its not the same code as limewire...11:47
imbrandondude Snake[Sleep]  its exactly the same, what are you talking about?11:47
imbrandonlimewire AND frostwire are the same codebase and are both opensource11:47
FritoHeladoHey, that's not fair, dude. there's a blue theme on this one.11:47
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Snake[Sleep] imbrandon: why would they charge for limewire then?11:49
Snake[Sleep] wtf limewire.org??11:50
imbrandonlimewire has a free version also and its opensource, its not iileagle to charge for opensource software, thats like saying why does redhat or suse charge for their os ;)11:50
Snake[Sleep] imbrandon: if I download off limewire.org does it come with spyware?11:50
imbrandonlimewire.org == opensource page of limewire.com ;)11:50
imbrandonSnake[Sleep] , no limewires have spyware11:51
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Snake[Sleep] imbrandon: explain11:52
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imbrandonexplain what ? limewire is opensource , they also ask you to donate to them for the "pro" version but its still open source , frostwaire is just another opensource p2p client based on the same code11:53
imbrandonneither has spyware11:53
_sebimbrandon, anychance you're the Brandon from neowin?11:53
imbrandonnope ;)11:53
_sebjust checking11:54
Snake[Sleep] imbrandon: dude last I checked if I grabbed the windows version it came bundled with some spyware11:54
Snake[Sleep] free "ad supported" version11:54
imbrandoni'm the brandon from http://wiki.kubuntu.org ;)11:54
Jack1somebody used the journal function of kontact?11:54
Jack1hellO?11:54
imbrandonSnake[Sleep] , nope limewire has NEVER been ad supported, you got a hacked version from somewhere else OR are thinking of another p2p app11:54
imbrandonJack1, nope11:55
Snake[Sleep] hmmm...11:55
Jack1imbrandon u have it?11:55
imbrandonhave what ?11:55
Snake[Sleep] in anycase im not touchin limewire again, i like frostwire11:55
Jack1imbrandon i just wonder if it should be used as real journal or what is function is11:55
imbrandonreadup on its website ;)11:55
Jack1imbrandon and if it can be used with kgpg11:55
Jack1didnt find there much..i looked there11:56
FritoHeladowhat is kgpg?11:56
imbrandonkde frontend for gpg11:56
FritoHeladoOkay, what is gpg?11:57
imbrandon!gpg11:57
ubotugpg is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/874611:57
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FritoHeladoSee, the words gnuprivacyguard would've gotten the point across.11:58
imbrandonprobbly but that gives you the whole story ;)11:58
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FritoHeladosince you are my everlasting font of info, can you tell me how to set up aac encoding in kaudiocreator>11:59
FritoHelado?*11:59
Jack1another thing11:59
FritoHeladoI have faac installed.12:00
imbrandonFritoHelado, nixternal`zzz can if/when he wakes up12:00
imbrandonhe uses aac and kaudiocreator12:00
Jack1strange i got banned from an undernet channel without reason..how would ic findout the responsible admin of a channel?12:00
FritoHeladoWhy do you know that?12:00
imbrandonJack1, no idea that network has nothing to do with freenode and has diffrent rules/contacts check their website12:01
imbrandonFritoHelado, becouse i talk to him regularly12:01
imbrandon;)12:01
FritoHeladoOkay, well you must talk to him very regularly indeed to know his computing habits.12:02
CrystuferThat feels good.12:02
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imbrandonSnake[Sleep] , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FrostWire12:03
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CrystuferOkay, so how about I ask kde related questions in kde?12:03
imbrandonheh12:04
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Jack1hi if i use the function encrypt clipboard in kgpg where would the encrypted file be saved? i dont find it..12:09
nolteharddiskmanager is not working in dapper rc1 installed on hpdl36012:09
imbrandonJack1, probbly in the clipboard12:09
Jack1u r right12:10
Jack1sorry imbrandon stupid to ask but didnt find out12:11
imbrandonnp12:11
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Jack1what are ur tips/hints to have a powerful encryption?12:14
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Jack1something one should have in mind12:14
imbrandoni dont use encryption that much12:14
HobbseeJack1: maybe ~/.kgpg12:14
imbrandonmorning Hobbsee12:14
Hobbseeheay12:14
Hobbsee*heya12:14
imbrandonHobbsee, got about 16/20 solved problems tonight ;) hehe12:16
imbrandonnot toooo bad of ratio12:16
Jack1Hobbsee no imbrandon was right, its put to klipper and has to be saved manually12:16
Hobbseeimbrandon: yay :)12:16
HobbseeJack1: ah okay - i just use gpg, or the enigmail plugin for thunderbird.12:16
CrystuferHe, is it safe to upgrade to kde 3.5 in kubuntu, or should I just wait for a dapper?12:17
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Jack1yes i had that too but now have kmail; advantage of kgpg is that  it is more flexible u can encrypt virtually anything12:17
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imbrandonCrystufer, when i used breezy it was no problem but on the other hand dapper is going to be released ~48 hrs12:18
CrystuferReally?12:18
CrystuferAre you on the dev crew, btw?12:18
imbrandonnot realy / kinda .... lol i'm a kubuntu member that contributes where i can ;)12:19
CrystuferGood enough for me.12:19
Hobbseeimbrandon12:19
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imbrandonsup ?12:19
Hobbseeimbrandon: there are both advantages and disadvantages too12:19
Hobbseehmmm?12:19
CrystuferSo is it a mother to upgrade from breezy to dapper?12:19
imbrandonCrystufer, nah its not too bad, look at this link ......12:20
imbrandon!upgrade12:20
HobbseeCrystufer: less of a pain if you have kubuntu-desktop installed, but still painful, i thought...12:20
imbrandon!+upgrade12:20
ubotuwell, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.12:20
imbrandon"[05:19]  <Hobbsee> imbrandon: there are both advantages and disadvantages too" huh ?12:20
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vinboyhi12:20
Hobbseeimbrandon: of the mail client over gmail.12:20
imbrandonohh hehe12:21
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vinboymy reiser fs on my linux givnig me some error during bootup12:21
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imbrandonyea i have all my pop accounts just sent to gmail , then i use a client to get my gmail via pop12:21
propagandhianybody here know much about bash scripting12:21
Hobbseepropagandhi: yes12:21
imbrandonpropagandhi, a little12:21
imbrandonvinboy, what error12:21
Hobbseepropagandhi: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/12:21
propagandhii know how stupid this is, but how do i detect spaces in variables?12:21
Hobbseeer...well, i know of a tutorial for it, but no idea about answers to questions12:22
imbrandonerm12:22
Snake[Sleep] Hobbsee: hey :)12:22
Hobbseehi Snake[Sleep] 12:22
propagandhiHobbsee, thats ok12:22
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CrystuferHoly awesome crap!12:22
imbrandonhahaha Hobbsee12:22
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CrystuferThis is implemented allready?!12:23
imbrandonwhat ?12:23
CrystuferI can do this now?12:23
Snake__Crystufer: ?12:23
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Crystuferthe upgrade via update manager.12:23
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imbrandonyes i've been running dapper ( beta ) months12:23
CrystuferThat is so rediculously cool.12:23
Snake__imbrandon: mustbe a debianer12:24
Snake__:P12:24
Snake__he must be*12:24
imbrandonactualy no i used suse before kubuntu ;)12:24
CrystuferWill it change my sources.list too?12:24
Snake__imbrandon: I ment him ;)12:24
imbrandonshould12:24
CrystuferWho, me?12:24
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imbrandonCrystufer, should take care of everything12:25
Snake__Crystufer: yes, its a joke, which has now been butchered and killed.12:25
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi there, i was wondering if you can help me.. i have a wireless router where i am the only client. When i use Ktorrent or other p2p even though the connection band is not completely used at all (50kb/s in average) when i try to use http there's an incredibly high lag time and packet loss. Do you know how to increase the priority of HTTP packets in order to improve my situation?12:25
CrystuferOkay. I didn't get it anyways. Prolly cuz I'm new to devian.12:25
Crystuferdebian*12:25
imbrandonkubuntu ;)12:26
imbrandonlooks like that was sudden12:26
Snake__imbrandon: he seemed so over whelmed that we get updates, he HAS to be from debian :)12:26
imbrandonSnake__, more like you could upgrade the os version without reinstall12:27
Snake__imbrandon: regardless, when was the last time debian went stable before this most recent release? 10 years??12:27
Jack1Dsa &elgamal or rsa, what do u use?12:27
imbrandonneither jack, i'm not that paranoid ;) but either would be fine12:28
h3sp4wnJack1: If you are paranoid blowfish12:28
propagandhiHobbsee,12:28
imbrandonmoui h3sp4wn12:28
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h3sp4wnimbrandon: good morning (if thats what moui means ?)12:29
h3sp4wnTallia1Kubuntu: What You want to do is very compilicated and I have never done it on the client (only on routers) you might want to try installing wondershaper or something but it doesn't work very well12:30
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h3sp4wnTallia1Kubuntu: You need to use tc (i think it is part of iproute2), ipt_layer7, ipt_IMQ, ipt_CONNMARK (If you can run the qos on the router it might be better)12:33
Tallia1Kubuntuh3sp4wn: on the router there's nothing..12:33
Tallia1Kubuntuh3sp4wn: it's weird, i taught that US-robotics was pretty good .. the connection is very good but the configuration is poor12:34
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h3sp4wnTallia1Kubuntu: I can't just give you a script that will work you just need to read and understand how qos works (or get an openwrt supported router then can you use their excellent qos stuff with few changes)12:36
Tallia1Kubuntuopenwrt?12:37
Jack1hi, if use kgpg to decrypt a file it will create a new file and leave it in the same folder. in the settings i cannot control this behaviour ( not saving the unencrypted file).how?12:38
h3sp4wnSnake__: Woody was released in 2002 (thats hardly 10 years) (still running it perfectly fine for a shell server I co run with concurrent 50 users)12:39
LynoureAnd unstable is not that unstable either :)12:40
LynoureStable enough for my desktop computer without discomfort, at least.12:40
h3sp4wnOnly when they are upgrading x or gcc is it really bad to upgrade12:40
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h3sp4wnLynoure: My laptop has kanotix and it runs a hell of a lot faster then the same laptop with kubuntu (for whatever reason)12:43
h3sp4wnTallia1Kubuntu: Openwrt - Linux distribution that can run on certain routers12:44
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_sebAnyone feel inclined to help me get Kopete working? I want to use it for MSN all is well and good except it keeps telling me that my password is incorrect12:46
_sebnb: my password is not incorrect12:47
imbrandonseb have you tried another msn client just to check ?12:47
imbrandonor logonto a passport site ?12:47
_sebI've logged on to my msn space and I've chaked my hotmail with that address and password and it worked fine12:48
_sebchecked*12:48
Tallia1Kubuntuh3sp4wn: do you think my router will have that firmware available? will it work well? mine is a US-Robotics 546112:48
imbrandoncaps lock etc? the reason i ask is i'm useing kopete no problem and msn is the only service i use with it12:48
imbrandonTallia1Kubuntu, check the supported routers openwrt.org12:49
_sebI've chcked all the obvious capslock / me being a tard things and none of them helped12:49
imbrandon_seb, damn yea thats strange, i just loged out and back in to make sure12:49
h3sp4wnTallia1Kubuntu: It is listed as untested on http://toh.openwrt.org (But quite possibly will work) The only problem is that it only has 8mb of ram 2 meg flash will restrict you somewhat12:50
imbrandonTallia1Kubuntu, http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware12:50
_sebCan you tell me what your settings are in the 'configure kopete' section ?12:51
imbrandon_seb, yea one sec12:51
_sebif you go to the account preferences in modifying your account what port? That's the only think I can think of12:51
Tallia1Kubuntuh3sp4wn: restrict?12:52
imbrandonits blanked out, so i'm guessing the default port ( kopete 11.3 )12:52
_sebdon't know which kopete i'm using :| Where do I find out?12:53
h3sp4wnTallia1Kubuntu: You have to be very careful what you install on 2mb flash (not much space) - but boot wait is on so it is impossible to break it permenantly (even if it doesn't work)12:53
_sebnice, kopete 0.1012:54
_sebKDE 3.4.012:54
imbrandonerr 0.11.312:54
imbrandonkde 3.5.312:54
_sebRight, normally I'd use the normal ubuntu but I managed to muck up my MBR so I'm on kubuntu until my new CD's arrive. I'll have to find some kind of package manager?12:55
_sebooooh, kynaptic sounds fun#12:55
imbrandonadept12:55
_sebadept?12:55
imbrandonkde package manager12:56
_sebcan't find anything called adept, it all starts with a K :P12:56
imbrandonand you know you can "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" right ?12:56
Snake__http://www.xubuntu.org/12:56
Snake__man ugly website12:56
_sebI know, but it's so much hassle. I'd rather have a clean install with the latest ubuntu12:57
imbrandonSnake__, shhh we dont bash our brothers lol12:57
Snake__imbrandon: dude you have to agree, that is one ugly website12:57
Snake__lol12:57
Snake__Frames.12:57
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Tallia1Kubuntuh3sp4wn: yeah, it doesn't seem to be a good solution, after have seen this article: http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2775112:57
imbrandoni dont see any frames, and actualy i like it better than ubuntu.com ---- offtopic12:57
Snake__imbrandon: thats not frames?? the top, and right side?12:58
_sebwoot, installing gaim :P much easier solution. Thanks for your help12:58
imbrandonSnake__, thats called tables12:58
Snake__imbrandon: thats not much better ;)12:58
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Snake[Away] imout pz01:00
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_sebMuahaha, it works :)01:04
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crazy_penguinhello everybody.01:15
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XVampireXcrazy_penguin: :D01:16
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imbrandon'ello01:16
XVampireXimbrandon: that's the one I told you had the DNS problems01:17
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imbrandonyea at a friends house01:17
XVampireXyup01:17
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XVampireXHe's having problems with swiftfox now, I think it's the same problem with the DNS, though konqueror works just fine for him01:18
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XVampireXswiftfox = firefox that's optimized for specific machines01:18
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imbrandonno clue bro i stray away from swiftfox01:18
XVampireXIt's the same thing as firefox though :P01:18
imbrandonnot exactly, it dosent render them all the same, i have used it in the past01:19
imbrandonits close01:19
imbrandon;)01:19
XVampireXYeah, I know about the rendering01:19
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XVampireXBut I mean the way it connects to the internet is the same eh? :P01:19
imbrandonnot sure, if the rendering isnt the same anything could be diffrent , like i said i stray away from it ;)01:20
wordhow do you check a drive for bad sectors?01:20
imbrandonfschk01:20
wordthat a package?01:20
imbrandonits a program01:20
Jack1hi01:20
imbrandonkinda like scandisk for windows01:21
Jack1where are the xchat logs saved?01:21
Jack1anybody knows?01:21
Chousukefsck though.01:21
Chousuke:)01:21
imbrandonjack: if they are turned on it should have the dir in the config01:21
worddoes that check the entire disk though?01:21
Chousukeword: yes. or whatever you tell it to check01:22
ChousukeI think it checks partitions.01:22
imbrandonbut dont run it on mounted disks ;)01:22
Chousukebut you can give it all your partitions to check.01:22
XVampireXimbrandon: He says firefox doesn't work either01:22
XVampireXword: Linux is NOT windows, It's MORE powerful.01:23
imbrandonis it not working or is the default page not there, is he actualy trying to GO to a url like google.com01:23
wordvamp shush i was only on windows because it said that's where the bad sector is i told you that01:23
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XVampireXword: linux can scan windows partitions and linux partitions01:24
imbrandonXVampireX, but it cant fix ntfs ones ;)01:24
XVampireXyeah01:24
XVampireXcause no write capability01:24
XVampireXThey should start implementing ntfs mounting that works read/write01:25
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h3sp4wnTallia1Kubuntu: Probably so (but the micro image is designed for devices with low flash and it appears they tried to use the full sized image)01:25
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denniwhat is possible reason for seeing the php code in the browser when trying to install squirrelmail01:26
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imbrandondenni that php isnt setup correctly on your apache server01:26
h3sp4wnTallia1Kubuntu: The source code is available from us robotics though maybe someone else has made a custom firmware with qos01:26
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dennitrying to figure out what is going wrong it seem that both php4 and php5 is installed01:27
wordfsck.ntfs: not found ...........uh..01:27
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denniusing the preconfigured package from ubuntu01:28
imbrandonword , have ntfstools installed ?01:28
imbrandonand or ntfsprogs01:29
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davidhousehi guys. what should i use to watch .mov videos?01:29
word i have ntfsprogs but not tools01:29
davidhousekaffeine, not exactly The Rock of All Video Players, is crashing on me.01:29
wordinstallin that now01:29
davidhouse (i'd like to not have to install something monolithic like mplayer, but i suppose that would work)01:30
cfraz89davidhouse: codeine is good01:30
cfraz89and kmplayer01:30
cfraz89no, kmplayer works with xine01:31
cfraz89and mplayer01:31
cfraz89but codeine just works01:31
davidhousewhere's codeine? adept can't find it01:31
cfraz89try www.kde-apps.org01:31
FHXHm..how do I upgrade my version of Kubuntu?01:31
imbrandon!upgrade01:33
imbrandon!+upgrade01:33
uboturumour has it, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.01:33
FHXThanks01:33
FHXwait01:33
FHXimbrandon, is dapper stable now?01:33
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imbrandonits tech a RC foir a few more days01:34
FHXok01:34
FHXso i'll upgrade my kubuntu first, then in a couple of days upgrade to dapper?01:34
Jack_SparrowHey Im01:34
davidhousehmm... installing codeine complains about a missing uic. which package would this be in?01:35
XVampireXHey, how can one make katapult look for filenames first instead of folders?01:36
Jack_SparrowI was able to run the scripts for a theme but they dont show up ...Where is heme manager?01:36
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Jack_Sparrowtheme01:37
FHXbtw, all my stuff is not updated. my kopete is outdated and my amarok is 1.3 still, what should I do??01:37
FHXO.o01:37
Kmirnorun in the forest01:37
FHX._.01:37
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FHX=O01:37
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FHXseriously.01:37
FHXoh yes01:37
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FHXdoes anyone know how i can get windows fonts on here?01:38
dr3asmsttcorefonts01:39
FHXthanks01:40
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nolteisn't sshd on the installation cd ?01:40
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linux_galorejust testing the latest version of ktorrent (yes there is a whole new version just released), wow its fast, getting the same speeds (even better right not) than azureus01:41
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linux_galorenolte: its not called sshd01:41
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FHXMeh. How do i update all my apps, does anyone know? i'm still kind of new to this and all my apps rre not upgraded (kopete, amarok, etc.)01:42
Lynourenolte: ssh server was not installed by default, at least.01:42
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nolteLynoure: so where can i find it ?01:42
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linux_galorenolte: lookup openssh-server01:43
Lynourenolte: cannot remember 100% surely and too busy to google now (I'm at work at the moment, not on my ubuntu) :/01:43
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noltelinux_galore: openssh-server sounds good, thanks01:45
linux_galorenolte: should be on the cd or the repository01:45
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_unknownhi01:54
rosemarygidday01:55
_unknownI have a problem, when I Browse with Konqueror I can browse just fine, but with swiftfox/firefox I cannot at all01:55
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HobbseeHobbsee_: *poke*01:57
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rosemaryI have 6.06 for two days, but it seems as stable as any other linux.  Admittedly I don't extend it - just use it for basic stuff, but looks very nice.  I am a PCLos user02:00
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McNutellawhats with konversation taking forever to connect to the network nowadays ?02:00
XVampireXkonversations fault :P02:00
XVampireXJust kidding02:00
XVampireXfreenode might be full02:00
linux_galoreIve got gaim here works fine02:00
linux_galoreXVampireX: might be your firewall02:01
McNutellahappens on other networks too XVampireX, and I thought it could be firewall, but its not on (afaik)02:01
XVampireXI have no problem02:01
XVampireXIt's McNutella02:01
linux_galoresorry meant McNutella02:01
McNutella..as I just wrote02:01
XVampireXCan anyone help _unknown ?02:02
linux_galoreMcNutella: if you have the firewall active either on the router or the pc, it takes ages to login to feenode02:02
HobbseeMcNutella, does it try to check for ident first?02:02
McNutellaHobbsee, yep02:02
McNutellano ident found blah blah02:02
Hobbsee_unknown, connecting via proxy or something weird?02:02
HobbseeMcNutella, that's why...not sure how to turn it off though02:03
McNutellaill go rtfm.. for now :P02:03
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rosemary_unknown, can I suggest from personal experience - join forums, and also identify yourself here with a nick.  Makes for better relationships02:03
McNutellaor make people crave chocolate spread..02:04
ririsun java is broken02:04
Dasnipa`indeed02:04
linux_galoreriri: works fine for me02:04
rosemaryrather have choclate02:04
Dasnipa`how on the 1st when official 1.0 comes out will we just get it thru apt?02:04
ririadepte can't  install it02:05
linux_galoreriri: use easybuntu or automatix02:05
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ririwhere is it ?02:05
Hobbsee!automatix02:05
ubotu[automatix]  unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.02:05
linux_galoreeasyubuntu:02:06
Dasnipa`lol02:06
linux_galoresh: easyubuntu: command not found02:06
linux_galorebugger02:06
Dasnipa`!easyubuntu02:06
ubotuI heard easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.02:06
linux_galoreforgot I have a plugin that triggers on !02:07
GazzaKthats so wrong02:07
rirican't it be installed by adepte ? or apt-get ?02:07
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linux_galoreriri: yes but you have to edit a few things, easyubuntu does it all for you02:07
GazzaKautomatix is safe....02:07
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ririwhat is the safeer ? auto or easy ?02:08
Hobbseeeasy02:08
XVampireXDo it all manually02:08
linux_galoreriri: depends how lazy you are, automatix if you want to all done, easyubuntu if you want to edit the stuff yourself02:09
Hobbseethat too02:09
rirido you mean one by another ?02:09
ririi am not too lazy02:09
imbrandon!automatix02:09
ubotufrom memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.02:09
Hobbseenoirequus, want to give the speech on how automatix is bad to GazzaK?02:09
riribbut a bit fedup to get borken stuff02:09
GazzaKjust follow the wiki02:09
GazzaK!restrictedformats02:09
ubotu[restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats02:09
linux_galore<-- uses netiher02:09
linux_galoreneither*02:09
linux_galoreI setup Java manually added the links etc, took like 10 min02:10
bert_!FreeFormats02:10
ubotuThere are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats02:10
ririyes i used to do it02:10
ririwith sun02:10
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riribut it's long02:11
ririi don't remember all the syntax02:11
GazzaKso whats so bad with automatix then?02:11
linux_galoreGazzaK: edits files without asking02:11
ririmy RAM is getting saturated ! lol02:11
linux_galoreriri: for java thats normal02:11
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ririi mean my RAM (my memory) lol02:12
ririi would like to find an automatic installing for all this "obligatory apps"02:13
ririi install about twice a week ! lol02:13
GazzaKnothing is obligatory02:13
ririyes02:13
riribut if you don't have them...02:13
ririit's like close door...02:13
ririif i don't have flash... can't see flash02:14
ririnot java ... can't use geogebra... and so on02:14
linux_galoreIve got flash and java and shockwave working in Konqueror02:15
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ririddid you install them manually ?02:15
linux_galoreriri: easyubuntu is the automatic method02:15
ririok02:15
rosemaryflash and java not work in kubunru install?02:15
linux_galoreriri: yes02:15
ririi try it : thanks02:15
linux_galorerosemary: there proprietry02:16
linux_galorerosemary: easy to add though02:16
ririwhat about the bleeding edge ?02:16
riridangerous ?02:16
linux_galoreriri: not really, has updated servers02:16
ririok02:17
ririmandriva cookers is caca02:17
riripipi caca02:18
rosemarylinux_galore, okay but i heaps of probs getting them going in mandriva02:18
ririlol02:18
ririjust what i am saying02:18
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linux_galorerosemary: well you can add that stuff to mandriva easily, just add the plf server to urpmi they even have a website that spits out the lines to past into your terminal02:19
linux_galorerosemary: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/02:20
rosemarylinux_galore, I don't run mandriva any more - just making thr comment I foudnt it difficult to add them02:20
ririi stop mandriva few days ago02:20
rosemarywhat I am asking is kubuntu stance on them and how to get them02:20
ririimpossible to update kde4 to kde5.202:20
linux_galorerosemary: lol goto be kidding no harder than ubuntu, and if you have the full version of mandriva you have java/flash already installed02:20
ririnow with kub i haven't yet any prob02:21
linux_galoreriri: ?? kde4 isnt even released yet02:21
riribut newbie for kubuntu02:21
rosemarylinux_galore, like I said don't run mandriva now - and when i did had to add java02:21
ririlol02:21
ririsorry02:21
ririkde.3.402:21
SkrotFFSI'd like KDE 5.2 :P02:21
linux_galoreIm on kde 3.5.302:21
ririlol02:21
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SkrotFFS=)02:22
linux_galoreriri: not sure if 3.5.3 is on the servers yet02:22
ririyes02:22
ririi mean kde3.5.202:22
ririnow with adepte i don't even know which one it's ! lol02:23
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Hobbseelinux_galore, shh!02:23
linux_galoreriri: you can get kde 3.5.3 installed but you need to use konstruct02:23
Hobbseelinux_galore, how'd you find out, anyway?02:23
ririyes i can wait02:23
linux_galoreHobbsee: look in apt-cache02:23
ririi have to fill my kubuntu02:23
imbrandonHobbsee, he used konstruct02:23
Hobbseeah great.02:24
Hobbseewell, testers are good02:24
riridoes konstruct works well ?02:24
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jitacan somebody please paste me the contents of /etc/fstab at rafb.net?02:24
linux_galoreriri: yeah pretty easy02:24
jitai need to see the cdrom/dvd rom entries02:24
Hobbseejita, what were you after?02:24
Hobbseejita, ah, sudo apt-cdrom add02:24
Hobbseethen it'll auto add...02:25
ririthe last time i used it on mandriva worked well??? but not kcontrol :) lol02:25
jitaHobbsee: there is no entry for cdrom/dvdrom drive in /etc/fstab?02:25
ririgood reason to change distro02:25
Hobbseeoh, oops...02:25
Hobbseejita, /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       002:26
Hobbsee is mine02:26
linux_galore3.5.3 is solid, no bugs here after a week02:26
ririwow easyubuntu speedy gonzalez !02:26
jitaHobbsee: you using dapper?02:26
linux_galoreI had a menu bug in kde 3.5.2 seems to be fixed now02:26
Hobbseejita, yep02:26
jitaHobbsee: ok thanx02:26
ririimbrandon can I set all options in eeeasy ubuntu ?02:27
linux_galoreIm turning the auto update scripts on all the machines of on thurs->mon02:29
riri2Gbytes ! lol02:29
ririfuny02:30
ririit can't find the sun java packet02:30
ririsun java bin02:31
imbrandon!sun-java5-jre02:31
ubotuI guess sun-java5-jre is ... to install Suns Java enable multiverse and universe repositories and type "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" in a terminal02:31
ririi did it few times02:31
riribut java bin is broken02:31
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linux_galorejava -version:02:32
linux_galorejava version "1.5.0_06"02:32
linux_galoreJava(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)02:32
linux_galoreJava HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_06-b05, mixed mode, sharing)02:32
rosemaryI'm geting confused here - does java work by default or not?02:32
linux_galorerosemary: no02:33
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linux_galorerosemary: Ubuntu/Kubuntu sticks the OpenSource stuff and java isnt open source (yet)02:33
riri**ar/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb02:33
riri /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb02:33
ririE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:33
ririhere is what i get after few trials02:34
ririeach time02:34
rosemarylinux_galore, so have to do the download etc wwwwhich is what this guy is doing - haven't been followong02:34
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linux_galorerosemary: well there are two ways, you add multiverse repositories to your package manager and then you just apt-get  it or you can use easyubuntu02:35
rosemarylinux_galore, oh -that easy02:36
linux_galoreriri: remove the version that installed02:36
ririok02:36
ririin fact it's not install02:36
ririi guess just downloaded02:36
linux_galoreriri: I suspect its a failed install so just remove it02:36
ririwith synaptic i delete broken link02:36
rirido you mean in var ?02:37
linux_galoreriri: no apt thinks its installed02:37
rosemarylinux_galore, yep - got the repsoitories set up didn't know java would be there02:37
ririwhere do i delete  it ?02:37
linux_galoreyou use apt02:37
ririremove ?02:38
ririapt-get remove sun...02:38
linux_galoreriri: apt-get remove packagename02:38
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ririok02:39
Kmirnoriri: salut02:39
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deinhi02:39
ririsalut02:39
deinis anyone having problems with the package manager on dapper drake kubuntu?02:39
Kmirnoriri: you can get sun-j2re1.5 and sun-j2sdk1.5 on PLF repositories02:39
Kmirnodein: I don't, I love it02:40
deini mean problems like packages not unpacking02:40
deinerror messages02:40
Kmirnodein: I don't02:40
Kmirnodein: what are the error messags ?02:40
Kmirno+e02:40
deinone sec ill spawn one02:40
ririKmirno: how to set plf ?02:41
Kmirnoriri: :) http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/plf02:41
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Kmirnoriri: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/PLF sorry02:42
ririthanks02:42
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dein"there was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."02:42
Kmirnoah02:42
Kmirnodein: and if you do just the same with apt-get install ?02:42
deinyes02:43
Kmirnodein: you get what error ?02:43
Kmirnothe same ?02:43
deinone sec02:43
rosemarybed for me now - night all02:43
ririme toot02:43
ririi tried plf yesterday and it didn't work..02:43
dein2re1.4 failed to preconfigure, with exit status 1002:44
dein(Reading database ... 68203 files and directories currently installed.)02:44
deinUnpacking j2re1.4 (from .../j2re1.4_1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3_i386.deb) ...02:44
deindpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/j2re1.4_1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):02:44
dein subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1002:44
deinErrors were encountered while processing:02:44
dein /var/cache/apt/archives/j2re1.4_1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3_i386.deb02:44
deinE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:44
Kmirnoriri: what error msg ?02:44
deinthats the message from console02:45
Kmirnodein: well the probleme is with the package not with adept then02:45
deinboth are trying to install j2re1.402:45
Kmirnodein: trye apt-get install -f (without anything behing it)02:45
deinok so its not something ive done to my computer02:45
ririi don't remain02:45
Kmirnodein: It may be somehting you've done to your computer02:45
riribut i just did apt-get clean02:46
ririand it's starting downloading java02:46
deinok i did that02:46
Kmirnoriri: what part did not work ? cause I works for me and for thousands downloading everyday02:46
deinand it gave the error message again after i tried again02:46
ririDes erreurs ont t rencontres pendant l'excution:02:46
riri /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb02:46
riri /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb02:46
ririE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:46
riririri@one:~/easyubuntu$ than02:46
deinim having troubles with that same package too02:46
Kmirnohum02:47
ririis there a list of good repos ?02:47
Kmirnotheses packages were made for breezy, but I tested them on kubuntu dapper, and they did work02:47
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ririi am on dapper rc02:47
deinditto02:48
ririfreshly updated02:48
Kmirnoriri: well you can use java packager to make packages for your distro02:48
ririi want to do it automatic as possible02:48
riribecause i have to do it often02:48
deinthe java packager is pretty automatic02:48
ririsure if it doesn't work i will do it manually02:48
Kmirnoriri: I installed dapper i386 kubuntu 2 days ago and installed java yesterday on it. It worked .. I don't know what to say. make your own, you don't need to know anything about packageing for java02:49
deinits just a sh command and an install02:49
ririok02:49
Kmirnoriri: it's pretty straightfowarfd you get the java*.bin your ran a command and you get the .deb that's all02:49
ririi want to know why i have problems02:49
ririyes02:49
Kmirnoriri: It might be the package, it was done on breezy02:49
riribut i can get the gz one too ?02:50
deinthere was a recent update to the core system02:50
Kmirnoriri: I didn't update PLF for months02:50
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deinlike 2 hours ago maybe02:50
ririok02:50
deinmaybe that broke it?02:50
KmirnoBTW any volonteer to update PLF packages for dapper ?02:50
ririi tried this morning about 11h here in france02:50
deinplf?02:50
Kmirnoriri: (Salut a va sinon ? passe le bonjour)02:51
Kadranhi i try to rename some mp3 with musicbrainz and it says that mp3 is not supported?? how it could be02:51
Kmirnodein: yes PLF02:51
deinwhats that?02:51
KmirnoKadran: you need extra packages02:51
Kmirnodein: Pinguin liberation Front02:51
deinah02:51
Kmirnodein: we provide packages like w32codecs java libdvdcss2 etc02:51
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KadranKmirno: thanks02:52
deinooh02:52
deinsadly i don't know how to package stuff yet02:52
ririis easyubuntu on plf ?02:52
RiddellKadran: musicbrainz is compiled without mp3 support, you need to recompile it02:52
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KadranRiddell: how to do this?02:53
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KadranRiddell: is there is something that i should install to support mp3?02:54
RiddellKadran: no, it needs to be recompiled02:54
Kmirnoriri: easyubuntu is a separated project, hosted on freecontrib, but not run by the same people .. well not anymore. They do use PLF repositories thought02:54
RiddellKmirno: you are PLF?02:54
rirido i put the plf repos in sources.lst ?02:54
KadranRiddell: ok thanks i will try it :)02:54
KmirnoRiddell: Hi ! long time not seen ya.02:54
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KmirnoRiddell: yes i'm ashamed I'm maintaining PLF02:55
RiddellKmirno: libtunepimp and musicbrainz packages with mp3 support would be a useful addition02:55
KmirnoRiddell: submit of this packages would be greatly apreciated :)02:55
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monadhi... i'm having serious trouble with a machine running kubuntu here at work. i ran a full upgrade via adept, which didn't succeed, suggesting there were probably some dependecies broken or something, so it aborted without further ado. now after a reboot, it says there's no ide1, modules.dep was not found and nothing boots.02:56
monadwhat can i do?02:56
deingah, i cant figure out how to get java functioning in firefox02:56
monadi don't want to install a whole new system02:56
KmirnoRiddell: To tell the truth I'm a so pityfull packager.. i didn't even touch the repositories for 5 months02:57
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deindo i have to move a plugin from the java folder just created by the .bin file?02:57
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KmirnoRiddell: I didn't even put a amd64 and dapper repos up02:57
LeeJunFandein: dapper?02:57
deinyes02:57
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LeeJunFandein: install sun-java5-plugin02:58
LeeJunFandein: that's all you should have to do.02:58
deinits not working right now for some reason02:58
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monadhello...? can anyone help me?02:59
deinleejunfan: there was a ubuntu core update or something very recently03:00
LeeJunFandein: update-alternatives --config firefox-java-plugin.so03:00
deincould that have broke these packages?03:00
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ririKmirno: i think it's ok now03:00
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ririat list it 's downlaoding03:01
LeeJunFandein: my system is up to date, and java is working.03:01
Kmirnoriri: cool03:01
ririit's my fault03:01
ririi mixed up with all repos03:01
Kmirnomonad: Hi I have apples you want some ?03:01
deinwhat did you do to fix yours riri?03:01
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LeeJunFandein: or at least it's loading, typing about:plugins in firefox location shows it's loaded.03:01
ririwell03:01
ririi hadn't plf repos03:01
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ririso i just copy in sources.lst03:02
deini have the universe and mulitverse repos03:02
LeeJunFandein: I think you aren't talking about the same thing riri is.03:02
ririat the moment it's downloading03:02
ririyes03:02
Kmirnodein: you're trying to install j2re1.4 from ubuntu multiverse repos I think03:02
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LeeJunFandein: you only need universe for the sun java packages as the licensing changed and it's now included in universe.03:03
monadKmirno: well thanks for the apples, but can you also tell me why dpgk --configure -a broke my system03:03
Kmirnodein: riri is installing sun-j2re from plf repositories03:03
Kmirnomonad: 'cause it's dpkg03:03
Kmirnomonad: you know debien packaging system03:03
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koshLeeJunFan: probably get removed from universe though, the license is less free then the previous one03:03
LeeJunFancrap.03:04
deinwell im trying to install either sun-java5-bin or j2re.1403:04
ririlol don't say that03:04
monadi DON'T CARE... i just want to be able to boot that machine again to at least get the data off it03:04
ririvirgin's eaaar around03:04
Kmirnodein: wy don't you try sun-j2re1.5 from plf ?03:04
monadthen i'll gladly flip in the install cd again03:04
Kmirnomonad: ah you can't even boot ?03:04
Kmirnomonad: you can get your data by booting a livecd03:04
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deinim new to kubuntu, and i don't really know how to add repositories03:04
monadKmirno: sez that modules.dep is missing and switches toa rudimentary shell03:05
ririhttp://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/PLF03:05
deinrecently migrated from suse03:05
LeeJunFanmonad: you perhaps you can choose to install the system but don't format the drive? Not the cleanest way but it should work.03:05
ririread this dein03:05
swokeHello, can someone help me to get a konqueror profile for midnight commander ? I don't have default one... :(03:05
monadLeeJunFan: if only i'd understand this parition manager on the install cd...03:05
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ririthat's what i am doing03:06
Kmirnodein: sudo cat "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.503:06
deinkk03:06
Kmirnomonad: I recommend you try cfdisk it's in ncuse (console based graphical huhu) it's really easy to use and self explanatory03:07
Kmirnoncurse*03:07
ririKmirno:  parameter done03:07
ririKmirno: test done ok03:08
monadKmirno: i just booted the install cd, but when i get to my existing partition table and say that it should just take it, it says that no root fs was found. wtf?03:08
Kmirnomonad: hu ?03:08
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Kmirnomonad: follo the following :03:08
Kmirnomonad: 1 boot livecd03:08
Kmirnomonad: 2 open kosole03:08
Kmirnomonad: get root (with su or sudo su depends on the livecd)03:09
Kmirnomonad: type mkdir mydata03:09
ririKmirno:  what the command for flashplayer ?03:09
Kmirnomonad: then type mount /dev/whateveryourpartitionis mydata03:09
Kmirnomonad: get your data back03:09
Kmirnomonad: then reinstall03:09
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deinkmirno, i keep getting permission denied03:09
ririapt-get install flashplayer ?03:10
riridein03:10
Kmirnomonad: you can use cfdisk /dev/yourhdd to create/delete paritions on the drive03:10
rirido you sudo ?03:10
deinya03:10
Kmirnodein: get rid of the 1.4 broken package first03:10
deink03:10
ririKmirno: flashplayer ?03:11
Kmirnoriri: hum not named that way anymore i don't remember how tought03:11
ririlol03:11
Kmirnoriri: try sudo aptitude search flash03:11
ririok03:11
deinok now it says theres no such directory ; ;03:11
deinim running as su now btw03:12
riririri@one:~/easyubuntu$ sudo aptitude search flash03:12
ririi   flashplugin-nonfree             - Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer03:12
ririp   flashybrid                      - automates use of a flash disk as the root03:12
ririp   libflash-dev                    - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - development file03:12
ririi   libflash-mozplugin              - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatib03:12
ririp   libflash-swfplayer              - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - stand-alone play03:12
ririi   libflash0c2                     - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - shared library03:12
ririp   libroxen-flash2                 - Flash2 module for the Roxen Challenger web03:12
ririp   newsflash                       - gets news with the newnews command from a03:12
ririp   vrflash                         - tool to flash kernels and romdisks to Agen03:12
riririri@one:~/easyubuntu$03:12
ririwhich one is ?03:12
Kmirnoflashplugin-nonfree03:12
Hobbseeriri: do not paste!03:12
Hobbsee!paste03:12
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 03:12
Kmirnoriri: seems already installed03:12
ririok03:13
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deini keep getting permission denied ><03:15
riridid you look if you haven't already a process working ?03:16
ririsu and sudo isn't the same03:16
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deinok it wasnt to install java bin and jre03:18
deinis there a way to purge those packages?03:18
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riritry sudo apt-get clean ?03:20
deinok i fixed that problem03:20
ririor synaptic03:20
ririin menu borken linl03:20
ririok03:20
deinsun-java5-plugin installed03:20
ririi am not an expert :)03:20
deinand was missing its brothers03:20
ririok03:20
deini removed it since i cant get sun-java5-bin to install03:20
ririare you in dapper ?03:21
deinyes03:21
riridid you try plf ?03:21
deinim entering this in my terminal03:21
deinsudo cat "deb ftp://spirit.bentel.sk/mirrors/plf/ breezy free non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list03:21
deinand i get permission denied03:21
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deinany idea what im doing wrong?03:22
ririget it with kwrite or kate ?03:22
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deink03:22
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ririsudo kate /etc/apt/sources.lst03:23
ririlist03:23
ririsorru03:23
ririsorry03:23
HymnToLifeplease use kdesu to run kate03:23
Hobbsee!kdesu03:23
ubotuUse kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.03:23
HymnToLife!kdesu03:23
Hobbsee:P03:23
ririhttp://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/PLF03:24
ririok03:24
ririthanks03:24
deinok too late but i will next time03:24
ririsorry dein03:24
ririi am not expert03:24
deinnp03:24
deinneither am i03:24
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ririi have done it with this linl03:25
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ririand now i have java working03:25
ririlink03:25
ririyou will copy the repos in your source.list03:25
deinwhat packages did you download?03:25
ririand then apt-get update03:25
riri sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 w32codecs sun-j2re1.503:26
ririonly sun03:26
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ririif you don't want the other03:26
deinok one sec03:26
riribut i need codec too03:26
deini shoulda done this in adept03:27
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ririread the link i gave you and put it in favorite !03:27
ririno03:27
rirido it manually03:27
ririexcept if you know well adept which i don't03:27
deini did, and i messed adept up bad03:27
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ririyou did it manually ?03:28
deina03:28
deinya03:28
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ririhave you an email address ?03:29
deinya just a sec03:29
ririi could send you my sources.list03:29
ririand you could compare03:29
deinone sec03:30
ririok03:30
deini gotta kill a whole bunch of adept processes03:30
ririlol03:30
ririviel spass03:30
ririi guess that why you are blocked03:31
deinok that should fix it03:31
deinyay its alive again!03:31
deinya its much easier to add in adept03:32
deinall i have to do is write the line down and click add03:32
deinand then my computer doesnt start spitting up blood03:32
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ririok03:33
ririif you like03:33
riribut i prefer sudo apt-get03:33
ririi know what i do :) lol03:33
ririand many explanation are this way03:33
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ririKmirno: where is the ubuntu list ?03:37
ririis it the same as kubuntu ?03:37
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Jack_SparrowI installed kweather using adept but I dont see it on the taskbar03:37
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KmirnoJack_Sparrow: you need to added it to the taskbar if you want it there03:38
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hastesaverriri, what list are you looking for?03:38
deinmaybe something's wrong with the universe packages of java03:38
KmirnoJack_Sparrow: rightclick add appelet03:38
ririubuntu mailing list03:38
Jack_SparrowBut I dont see it listed anywhere03:38
deinbecause the packages from plf installed just fine03:38
Kmirnoriri: sorry ?03:39
ririit's ok03:39
Jack_SparrowSorry got it03:39
Kmirnoriri: no idea i'm not part of it.. too much mail . and'ive already few thousands unread mail in the mailbox03:39
Jack_SparrowI kept looking for prog03:39
ririi just wanted to know where is ubuntu mailing list03:39
Jack_SparrowThank you03:39
ririok03:40
ririi am kubuntu03:40
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Jack_SparrowI am on second day of KU03:40
Jack_SparrowNice03:40
riribut it's true too many mails03:40
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ririi am on 5th day and still liking it more03:40
Kmirnoriri: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users03:40
Kmirnoriri this is th elist03:40
ririok03:41
ririit seems to be the same i am in03:41
Jack_SparrowI do miss frozenbubble.. wife will want it03:41
ririjack : i even delete xp ! lol03:41
ririi am trying to convince wife to kub03:42
Jack_SparrowKUis only thing on thos lappy03:42
deingah now to get flash working03:42
Jack_Sparrowsorry need keyboard03:42
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aseigoblurble03:43
riridein sudo aptitude search flash03:43
deinok i got it installed, but its... weird03:44
deinflash quality is poor at best and very laggy03:46
deinand menus are missing03:46
ririyes me too03:46
ririi guess old version03:46
deinaccording to the version number its fully up to date >,003:47
deinweird03:47
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ririyes03:47
ririmy installation on test page block firefox03:47
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froggy_hello all04:05
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froggy_what is the diference betwen ubuntu and kubuntu ?04:05
haywardHey is anyone out there using a Toshiba Satellite with an ATI Radeon Card and is having trouble with constant crashes04:06
monadhi... so i set up a whole new system. during installation i was told that some packages were not finally configured. now when i run an upgrade in adept, i get error messages all over,. what can i do?04:06
ejosubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde04:07
haywardUbuntu has a standard install of Gnome, but can be configured to run KDE and Kubuntu comes with a standard install of KDE and can be configured to run Gnome04:07
HymnToLifeso basically the only difference is the packages installed by default04:07
haywardyes for the most part04:07
HymnToLifeis there any other ?04:08
haywardWell not that I can see, other then the grapical interface, the back end seems to be pretty similar04:09
HymnToLifeit's not "similr"04:09
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HymnToLifeit's 100% the same thing04:09
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monadis there a way to find out what is inconsistent?04:10
monadsorry... i'm new to kubuntu. usually run gentoo04:10
g0dchildHi, I am having trouble creating audio cds in kubuntu04:10
haywardare you getting problems loading mp3s on to a cd?04:10
g0dchildare there any reported bugs on k3b-? although i dont think its a problem directly related to k3b- had the same result with gnomebaker04:10
g0dchildno, i used wav.04:10
g0dchildtried mp3 to audio cd too...no luck04:11
HymnToLifeg0dchild> you must install k3b-mp304:11
haywardthats what i was just about to say ahaha04:11
HymnToLifeor whatever the hell it is called, the plugin to decode mp3 in k3b04:11
GazzaKand me, as I knew that one :)04:11
monadoh great04:11
g0dchildHymnToLife, yes, I searched apt for all the dependencies related to k3b and have each and every recommended package installed04:11
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haywardI think that they are the same from the backend any difference I am not aware of.04:12
haywardI have used both04:12
HymnToLifehayward> they re 100% the same04:12
haywardas i thought they where04:12
haywardits just the GUI thats different04:13
HymnToLifethe only difference is the GUI installed by default04:13
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monadit seems there is a problem with dpkg - there are several unresolved cross-dependencies, so adept fails. what can i do?04:13
HymnToLifebut you can very well install KDE on Ubuntu and vice versa04:13
HymnToLifemonad> sudo apt-get -f04:14
monadhymn: what does that do?04:14
HymnToLifeit fixes broken ependencies04:15
HymnToLifebut man apt-get would have told you ;)04:15
monadhymntolife: i'm already reading that, thank you. but running solely "apt-get -f" doesn't do anything04:16
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haywardahaha WTFM is the best thing anyone ever told me :D04:16
chavoit's apt-get -f install04:16
Jack_Sparrowwhat is the defaultfirewall?04:17
monadis there a way to reset the sources.list?04:17
HymnToLife!firewall04:17
ubotuUbuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.04:17
Jack_Sparrowthank you04:17
HymnToLifemonad> what do you mean ? reset it to default ?04:18
monadnevermind, fixed that.04:18
haywardyou can edit your sources in the atept KDE program04:18
monadnow when i run apt-get -f install, i get following msgs:04:18
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HymnToLife!pastebin04:18
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 04:18
monadgij-4.004:18
monad libgnujaxp-java04:18
monad libjessie-java04:18
monad java-gcj-compat04:18
monad libgnucrypto-java04:18
monadi know04:19
monadit's just four lines04:19
HymnToLifefour lines is consiered flooding by some people04:19
Jack_Sparrowwhat if I dont find it in the synaptic list04:19
monadsome people are easily offended... but sorry, won't happen again04:19
haywardI always thought a Dam break caused flooding....ahaha who knew!04:19
HymnToLifeJack_Sparrow> you're probably missing a repo04:20
HymnToLife!info firestarter04:20
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ubotufirestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 384 kB, Installed size: 1904 kB04:20
monadsomeone speaking german here? cause the error msgs are in german04:20
Jack_Sparrowk04:20
haywardahahah NIEN!04:20
HymnToLife!de04:20
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de04:20
monadis there?04:20
monadthanks04:20
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HymnToLifeIch kann auch ein Bisschen Deutsch sprechen :p04:21
monadzet, my friend, vill lead yoo to world domination, ja04:21
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Jack_Sparrowwhere do I type !info firestarter04:22
HymnToLifehere :)04:23
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Jack_Sparrow!info firestarter04:23
HymnToLifeyou can also /msg ubotu info firestarter04:23
ubotufirestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 384 kB, Installed size: 1904 kB04:23
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Jack_SparrowI used firestarter once beforejust cant find it with adept or synaptic04:24
HymnToLifedo you have Universe enabled ?04:24
Jack_SparrowInsynaptic04:25
Jack_Sparrowonesec04:25
Jack_Sparrow!info universe04:26
HymnToLife!universe04:26
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:26
haywardSo what kinds of systems are people running Kubuntu on?04:26
HymnToLifeinfo is to get info on a specific package04:26
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Nightrosehi ive got a problem installing tvbrowser - it needs java5-jre installed but i cant install it04:32
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eqisowwhy can't you install it?04:32
Nightrosei get the following in shell:04:33
Jack_SparrowThat linkis great except in synaptic I dont have a button to select that willshow disabled software sources04:33
Nightrosesun-java5-bin: Depends: sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-06-1) but it is not going to be installed04:33
Nightrose  tvbrowser: Depends: sun-java5-jre but it is not going to be installed or04:33
Nightrose                      sun-j2re1.5 but it is not installable or04:33
Nightrose                      sun-j2se6.0-jre-binary but it is not installable04:33
NightroseE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).04:33
Nightrosei tried -f but got the same04:34
paperangelwhat proggy you using?04:34
eqisowhmm04:34
paperangeli mean04:34
paperangelthat isnt working04:34
Kamping_KaiserNightrose, make sure  multiverse is enabled04:34
NightroseKamping_Kaiser:  do i have to change source.list for that?04:36
Nightroseand if - what do i have to change?04:36
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eqisowNightrose, are you on Dapper or Breezy?04:36
loadhobbsee: you there?04:37
Hobbseeload: for about the next 30 seconds, yes.04:37
loadhobbsee: that kopete patch works great04:37
Nightrosedapper04:37
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Hobbseeload: okay, cool.  from what i've heard, it doesnt seem to be needed on dapper...04:37
eqisowhttp://thepiratecove.org/files/sources.list04:38
eqisowcopy and paste the contents of mine if you want04:38
loadyeah, if dapper is using >= 12.0 then it should be ok04:38
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eqisowI've got pretty much everything there04:38
Nightrosethx a lot eqisow04:38
haywardNightrose are you having trouble installing Sun Java?04:38
loadrather 0.12.004:38
Nightrosejep04:38
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee, your off? later then04:38
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: yeah04:39
imbrandontime for bed, gnight all04:39
Hobbseeload: it's not04:39
Kamping_Kaiserlater imbrandon04:39
haywardok hold on I have an easy how to, for installing sun java04:39
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Kamping_Kaisertry doc.ubuntu.com ;)04:39
imbrandon!sun-java5-jre04:39
Hobbseeeqisow: do NOT give that link out.04:39
ubotuit has been said that sun-java5-jre is ... to install Suns Java enable multiverse and universe repositories and type "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" in a terminal04:39
eqisowwhy's that Hobbs?04:40
Hobbsee!tell Nightrose about repos04:40
Hobbseeeqisow: if you give him those links, you *will* eventually break his system.04:40
haywardhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148075&highlight=Sun+Java+Runtime04:40
n3stormhi everyone04:40
haywardyup thats the one I am telling him about04:40
n3stormI really need the normal konqueror04:40
eqisowI'm afraid I don't see how, it's the file I use on every dapper install I do04:41
n3stormdoes anybody knows how to turn kubuntu changes off for konqueror?04:41
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Hobbseeeqisow: because it ends up having different dependancies in each repo, and you *will* eventually get problems04:41
haywardI have been running it for a while now with no problems04:41
n3stormI am lookin on google, but it looks like I don't find the proper words04:41
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee, particularly on upgrade04:41
Hobbseelucky...04:42
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: ouch, yeah.04:42
n3stormI need the integrated konsole04:42
jeroenvrpdoes anyone know why my main-user's local-mail is going to /var/spool/mail/jeroen an all other users (I made them today) to ~/mbox ??04:42
Hobbseeeqisow: hayward like i said, eventually - most likely when there's a massive upgrade....04:42
jeroenvrpcorr: and all other users....04:42
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Kamping_Kaiserjeroenvrp, for the record, its going into /var/mail, the spool dir is a symlink04:43
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haywardI have gone though several massive upgrades since i first installed Java and nothing has gone wrong, I think it is just a warning, it might effect specif packages that I don't have installed04:43
Kamping_Kaiserand why i cant be srue, have you changed your mail server?04:43
jeroenvrpKamping_Kaiser: oh yeah, but the question is still there :-04:43
pmwill dapper have kde 3.5.3?04:44
chavon3storm, what exactly do you need from konq04:44
jeroenvrpKamping_Kaiser: where is it configured?04:44
chavopm, no04:44
imbrandonpm , possibly04:44
Jack_Sparrowis there a tool for monitoring system temp04:44
Kamping_Kaiserjeroenvrp, you would ahve to actively change it04:44
jeroenvrpin the user-directory or on postfix-level04:44
n3stormchavo the integrated terminal04:44
Hobbseepm: no04:44
Kamping_Kaiserpostfix level04:44
eqisowIt will be released with 3.5.2, but kubuntu.org always releases new KDE packages04:44
Hobbseeimbrandon: no04:44
jeroenvrpKamping_Kaiser: what is the defaultr?04:44
pmchavo: i think they should wait a couple of days in order to include it04:45
haywardI use Kubuntu for a POint of Sale System which I use Tina POS and it requires MYSQL and SUn Java, so it has been working fine04:45
chavon3storm, it's still there you can add a toolbarbutton04:45
Kamping_Kaiserjeroenvrp, not sure actualy. my mail pulled a simiar trick (it looks like), but it started going to ~/mbox then moved into /var. i havent spent the time to work it out04:45
n3stormchavo: mm, looking04:45
jeroenvrpok thanks Kamping_Kaiser - someone else!?04:46
chavoI can't remember if there's a keyboard shortcut though04:46
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n3stormchavo it works, many thanks04:46
chavonp04:46
pmpeople at kubuntu.org do a good job releasing new packages of kde even before official premiere of this de04:47
Jack_Sparrow Question:  is there a tool for monitoring system temp04:47
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pmi've go kde 3.5.3. already :)04:47
pmi've got*04:47
Hobbsee:)04:48
HobbseeJack_Sparrow: imsensors and ksensors, i think04:48
imbrandonheh04:48
Jack_Sparrowthanks quirky laptop04:48
eqisowpm, where'd you get it from? has kubuntu.org released it?04:51
eqisowI don't see it on their site04:51
Hobbseeeqisow: if not, it will soon...04:51
Hobbseeeqisow: PM?04:51
haywardwhat is the release date for the new KDE anyway?04:51
Hobbseehayward: which one?04:51
pmthere are packages although there's no official info yet04:51
Hobbsee3.5.3 is somewhere in the next couple of weeks, 3.5.4 is in july sometime, 4.0 is ages awya04:52
imbrandoneqisow, its not "quite" released yet on kubuntu.org , keep looking throughout the day though *hint*  ......... gnight all for real this time04:52
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pmkubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 as far as i remember the link04:52
haywardmmh ok04:52
pmeqisow: dapper version only though04:53
Hobbseeeqisow: i know you cant reply, you'll have to register for that, but see your PM's...04:53
Jack_SparrowThanks Ksensor way just what I wanted04:53
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eqisowwill do, thanks hobbsee04:54
Jack_SparrowLappy is running at 46'04:54
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uscg_coreyanyone familiar with Konversation ?04:54
Hobbseeuscg_corey: yes04:55
uscg_coreywell i want some commands to run after i connect to a server, but the connect commands in konversation execute while its connecting which wont work..was wondering how i can make 2 or 3 commands run when im connected to server automatically04:55
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Hobbseehmmm...i dont know that much....04:56
pmit's at least the third time kubuntu packages are available before the official release of kde04:56
uscg_corey;/ me either04:56
uscg_coreyi dont know why it does that04:56
Hobbseepm: shh :P  havent you noticed who does the releases for both of them though?04:56
uscg_coreyi was hoping there was like a "wait" comman or a timer function, but i cant find anything04:56
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pmHobbsee: no?04:57
pmwho?04:57
Hobbseepm: it usually gets tested around here a bit first - just to check that it works04:58
Hobbseeactually, the guy who ends up releasing it, and the guy who writes the annoucement up on the webpage for kde are different, i think...04:58
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Nightrose!tell Nightrose about repos05:04
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buzzerkann mir hier jemand helfen05:11
buzzerich komme nicht ins internet wenn ich eine verschlsselung anmache (wpe,...)05:11
HymnToLife!de05:11
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de05:11
buzzerich habe wlan05:11
HymnToLifeHier sprechen Sie nur Englisch, danke :)05:12
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buzzersry05:12
XVampireXHey, have you people seen: http://www.linuxtoys.net/toys2.html05:12
XVampireXEspecially project #505:12
haywardSo does anyone know how to get KDE then? Is it released or is it still not released?05:12
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XVampireXKDE4?05:13
koshsudo apt-get install kde05:13
XVampireXKubuntu = kde05:13
HymnToLife!kde05:13
XVampireXIf you're running ubuntu then do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:13
HymnToLife!kde05:13
haywardno the new kde 3.505:13
XVampireXThat's old05:14
HymnToLifestupid bot, the info is not for me..05:14
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hayward3.5.305:14
haywardsorry05:14
Nightroseim still tying to install java5-jre - im using this sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 - is there anyting i need to change?05:14
XVampireXThat's present, not new05:14
haywardoh ok05:14
XVampireXnew is KDE405:14
haywardfor some reason i thought there was a new relase i was not told about ahah05:14
chavohayward, do you want to test 3.5.3?05:14
HymnToLifedo we have any release date for it btw ?05:14
XVampireXYeah, sometime Q3 200605:15
haywardhow do i check what version of KDE i have now05:15
koshdpkg -l | grep kdelibs05:15
chavothe packages are done, but waiting for more testing till announcemnet05:15
haywardso decemberish 200605:15
HymnToLifehayward> Help > About KDE in any KDE app05:15
XVampireXhayward: yes05:15
XVampireXYou can get it from CVS if you want, but not recommended05:15
chavoactually there are packages done already05:15
XVampireXStill, not recommended05:16
haywardYes i have 3.5.2 installed at the moment05:16
haywardis 3.5.3 stable ?05:16
XVampireXI thought it was 3.5.2 oh well05:16
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chavohayward, just wait till the official announcemnet on kubuntu.org05:17
haywardoh ok cool cool thanks alot05:17
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XVampireXAnyway: http://www.linuxtoys.net/toys2.html05:19
XVampireXAnyone seen these?05:19
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XVampireXI think linux should be marketed as a powerful operating system05:19
XVampireXand ubuntu/kubuntu as making power be easily accessible05:20
eqisowright, I'm sure Canonical will include that in their next TV spot ;)05:20
n3stormhi again05:21
eqisowhey n3storm05:21
haywardLinux is allready a powerful OS, it pretty much controls the internet, i beleive you mean making it a DESKTOP OS powerhouse to distroy M$05:21
n3stormdo you know if I can see what kind of RAM I have installed with Kubuntu?05:21
eqisowK Menu --> System --> KInfoCenter05:22
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XVampireXhayward: I mean that people think linux isn't powerful enough05:24
haywardnot at all, those who know know it is quite powerful, there is stuff i could only dream of doing in MS that is possible in linux05:24
XVampireXI know, starting with mythtv, asterisk, that project #5 on that page :D and 3d desktop and so on and on and on05:25
haywardLinux has had 3d desktops now for a few years , and its only a dream of MS to have such ablities, that is what vi$ta is doing05:26
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XVampireXYup05:27
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kosh3d desktops have existed since jurassic park, however NOBODY uses them because they suck05:27
XVampireXHeh05:27
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XVampireXAnyone know any other possibilities with linux? I like all the different toys.......05:29
koshwell my main thing is doing database work05:29
koshthe windows boxes I have worked on basically collapsed during the testing phases05:29
Kmirnokosh: exactly05:30
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XVampireXHeh05:31
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XVampireXIs there any software for linux that teaches languages? (Not programming, but for example.... japanese)05:32
koshno idea, never looked :)05:32
koshI don't like human langauges, I like computer ones and eventually I want some kind of neural interface :)05:32
aseigoXVampireX: hm.. depends on what you mean by "teaches"05:33
aseigoXVampireX: there are a handful of apps in the kdeedu module that help out with learning japanese, latin, etc..05:33
XVampireXkosh: What do you mean by neural interface?05:33
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XVampireXaseigo: Yeah, long time ago I installed kdeedu, they were nice, but I think I had to download things for kdeedu programs to work05:34
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XVampireXI mean, to have anything useful05:35
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hayward_Hello All I am Back05:40
hayward_Kubuntu Crashed05:41
XVampireXWelcome back05:41
XVampireXirony05:41
hayward_Indeed..aaha thats what happens when your Beta05:41
XVampireXHeh05:41
hayward_So yes i know that Jurassic Park had 3d desktops but I mean Linux had then avalibal for many years now, Microsoft on the other hand act as though they invented it, altough they did not!05:42
XVampireXThey didn't invent it and they never even invented the concept of operating system05:44
hayward_oh i know, rent the movie pirates of silocon valley05:44
hayward_its such a good movie...god bless steve Jobs05:45
hayward_ahhaa and fuck Bill Gates05:45
hayward_ahaha05:45
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XVampireXSo any other linux toys05:46
hayward_I like this gallery thing...I think i might use it on my Community Centres Website05:48
XVampireXhehe05:49
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hayward_well i am off later days05:50
koshactually I think we would be worse off if apple had the monopoly that microsoft does05:50
koshI like the way they behave even less05:51
eeoshi there. what are you using for voip phone calls / sip calls under kde in kubuntu?05:51
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kosheeos: nothing :)05:51
eeoskosh: well, theay are lot less expensive than normal phones.05:52
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XVampireXhttp://freegamer.blogspot.com/05:53
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XVampireXeeos: Skype/Gizmo-Project05:54
XVampireXSoon kopete/gaim-vv05:54
eeoskosh: what is kopete gaim-vv?05:54
eeosXVampireX: sorry,05:55
eeosXVam. I meant to answer you05:55
XVampireXWhat?05:55
XVampireXAh05:55
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kosheeos: I use a normal phone about 20 minutes/year05:55
XVampireXkopete is the KDE Instant Messenger05:55
eeosI know kopete and gaim05:55
XVampireXgaim-vv is gaim that supports phone and video05:56
kosheeos: I use email for most things along with irc05:56
XVampireXkopete adds support for libjingle in 0.1205:56
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eeoswell, I need something for when we want to meet customers online05:56
XVampireXgaim-vv is integrated into main gaim05:56
XVampireXuse gizmo-project05:56
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XVampireXwww.gizmoproject.com05:57
eeoslooking at it now05:58
XVampireXIf you really want to get into VoIP, use asterisk05:59
XVampireXwww.asterisk.org05:59
eeoswell, asterisk is not a client06:00
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eeosif I understand well is a pbx06:00
koshhmm it seems for talking to customers that a regular phone is the best06:00
eeosGittmo does not look like opensource06:00
XVampireXYou want open source? There's wengophone06:01
koshI have been at other places and the line quality of voip has not been very good compared to a regular land line06:01
eeoskosh: our costs seem to disagree with you :-D06:01
McNutellasince people in #konversation aint listening.. does anyone in here know how to stop MOTD happening with the program ???06:01
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kosheeos: how far away from your customers are you?06:02
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eeosaything between 50 miles and 2500.06:02
eeoswith suppliers at anything between 50 and 1500006:02
eeos:-D06:02
koshso it should be pennies per minute at most, depending on what you do that should add up to squat06:03
eeoswhich adds up to loooots of money / month06:03
XVampireXIf you want true open source, use asterisk06:04
XVampireXI need fmod06:04
koshjust seems strange since land lines seem very cheap06:04
XVampireXAnyone knows where to get it for linux/kubuntu?06:04
koshhowever for what we do we charge about $80-$200/hour and sometimes a fair bit more06:05
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XVampireXDoes anyone know about where to get fmod for linux?06:07
XVampireXnevermind, I'm stupid06:07
eeosXVampireX: what is fmod?06:08
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dickhallmorning, all (in PST/PDT at least)06:09
XVampireXeeos: audio library for games06:10
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ninHerhi all06:10
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eeostrying to find it for my system (mandriva) but I cannot06:10
XVampireXwww,fmod.org06:10
eeoshave ou tried www.rpmseek.com, in the debian packages section06:10
XVampireXnevermind06:12
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froggy_hello06:15
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froggy_can enyone help me with a network job?06:16
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froggy_i need to make a small network betwen 2 computers06:16
froggy_and use internet06:16
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lwizardlhow do I manually add a new rsa key to known hosts?06:17
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froggy_can anybody help06:19
dickhallfroggy_: does one of the computers have two network cards? or do you have a router06:20
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froggy_one computer used a usb to input the modem06:22
lwizardli had to redo a server and now I can't ssh into the box since the key rsa changed. I have the new key on my other monitor screen. Just need to know how to add it06:23
froggy_and the network cards to make a connection betwen us06:23
froggy_dickhall: what can i do ?06:23
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froggy_dickhall: can you help me ?06:28
visik7how can I disable password manager for konqueror ?06:28
visik7sites passwords06:28
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foodcomanMorning06:30
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foodcomankkathman: =)06:32
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kkathmanhowdy foodcoman :()06:32
XVampireXHey, what do you people think, when linux becomes REALLY mainstream (will take over the microsoft market) do you people think that linux will become even more stable and even better than we could ever imagine?06:33
kkathmanXVampireX:  thats more of a discussion to be had in #kubuntu-offtopic06:34
dickhallsorry, a bit busy at work06:35
foodcomanDapper is working well for me.06:36
kkathmanseems reasonably stable, yes...ive had a few issues in compiling tho06:37
kkathmanbut factually I havent had time to narrow down if it comes from bugs or from just bad sources :)06:37
XVampireXNo, I mean since it's free/open source, developers will concentrate on adding TONS of features to it06:37
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kkathmanXVampireX:  possibly, but its still a discussion for #kubuntu-offtopic not here06:40
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XVampireXcool06:42
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_esbenI have a really stupid question... how do I get to the configuration menu in Katapult?06:45
dickhallright clikc on the slingshot icon in the system tray06:46
dickhallor bring up katapult (alt+space) then hit control C to bring up the context menu06:47
dickhallnot as configurable as I'd like :(06:47
XVampireXdickhall: Write a plugin for it06:48
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dickhallXVampireX: yeah, I've done exactly one day of KDE programming, but that'll likely be my first "real" OSS program I hack on06:49
dickhallI haven't looked at the plugin system - not exactly sure what I want to do can be done through plugins06:49
XVampireXEverything can be done through plugins06:50
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[AWAY] NthDegreewtf @ the katapult06:52
ejossrsly06:52
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dickhallah, cool. is the plugin interface C++?06:56
froggy_dickhall: can you help me ?06:56
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dickhallfroggy_: it doesn't sound like your problem has to do with Kubuntu, just with networks in general06:57
froggy_no06:57
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froggy_i need to know how to configure the network06:57
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froggy_but i must know what dirvers i need to do so06:57
dickhallI'm not sure then - my networking "just worked", I've never installed networking drivers on linux06:58
NthDegreefroggy_: networking works via DHCP or by manually setting up your IP, Routing, DNS etc.06:59
froggy_i had windows07:00
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NthDegreefroggy_: do you use a USB modem by any chance?07:00
visik7Where IS the Konqueror Password manager dialog ?!?!?!07:00
aseigovisik7: "where" meaning "where in the codebase" or "why isn't it showing up" or?"07:01
visik7the second you say07:02
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froggy_NthDegree:  yes i do07:03
NthDegreefroggy_:  USB modems are hard to set up under linux but I may be able to help (since I used to have that hell of a problem)07:03
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NthDegreefroggy_:  is it a speedtouch by any chance?07:04
froggy_NthDegree: please do07:04
froggy_NthDegree: no07:04
dennithink locale does not work in ubuntu-6.06-server-amd64 some bugs07:04
froggy_NthDegree: it's a webstar07:04
NthDegreefroggy_:  ok 1 sec07:04
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NthDegreefroggy_;  do you know the exact model etc. it is?07:06
visik7aseigo: are you able to find it ?07:07
froggy_no07:07
froggy_NthDegree: sorry07:07
visik7aseigo: I don't want that konq ask me each time if I want to store the password, I don'twant to store it07:07
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NthDegreefroggy_:  well it isn't easy to set up a USB modem on linux,  my advice is to get an ethernet router (one that supports a Cable/*DSL connection)07:09
froggy_i don't know the langage07:09
froggy_i meen those things07:10
NthDegree?07:10
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froggy_NthDegree: newermind07:10
NthDegreefroggy_: if you have an ethernet router then your networking should work, i can't really help that much if your hardware isn't well known07:11
Originoofroggy_: what says windows?07:11
froggy_i dont have windows07:12
Originoocool :)07:12
froggy_onli kubuntu07:12
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Originoothere should be some readable things on it which may help you07:12
NthDegreefroggy_:  well if you are using kubuntu to chat right now then everything should be near enough ok :)07:13
froggy_they dont07:13
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froggy_yes, but i have to make another computer acces the net07:13
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froggy_and now i have a ethernet connection07:14
froggy_i need a usb one07:14
NthDegreewell then you need a router with NAT (Network Address Translation) to link both computers to :)07:14
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froggy_i dont have one07:15
froggy_cant i use the same hardware that i used in windows?07:15
NthDegreeyou can use an ethernet connection and you can use ethernet routers, but USB modems aren't any good on linux07:16
froggy_damn07:16
froggy_but if i buy another network card ...will that do?07:16
Originoofroggy_: maybe you will find out the driver chip with windows first07:17
froggy_and we connect:07:17
froggy_me ------ friend07:17
froggy_me ------- modem07:17
NthDegreedo both PCs have an ethernet slot?07:17
froggy_yes07:17
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NthDegreethen buy a router with 2 slots on it to allow both PCs to access the web07:18
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NthDegreemy router has 4 slots for 4 PCs to plug into :)07:18
froggy_but can i do this with one more ethernet card??07:18
froggy_i just need one more07:18
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NthDegreeI wouldn't say to go get another ethernet card, because that method may be very inefficient, a good router is much better than another ethernet card and a crap modem/router07:19
froggy_ok07:20
froggy_10x07:20
NthDegreefroggy do what works for you because that's the best way07:21
froggy_ok07:21
NthDegreebut since you don't have to pay for linux or any of it's stuff you might aswell spend the savings on good hardware, to make your life easier07:22
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froggy_yes, i'll do07:22
froggy_:)07:22
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NthDegreefroggy_, so did you ditch windows recently or have you been on kubuntu for a while now?07:23
froggy_today07:23
DeadS0ulNthDegree: unless you're in country where pirating software is tolerated like in Hong Kong07:24
DeadS0ul..but yeah I barely use windows07:24
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NthDegreeI live in the UK and have cracked zonealarm, avast, nod32 and panda myself with basic registry tricks :)07:25
froggy_hehe07:25
froggy_nice one NthDegree07:25
NthDegreebut since I haven't used the software for more than it's eval period before ditching it, I haven't broken any laws :D07:26
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skipster23i am trying to create a new folder in my /usr/local/lib called win32 or codecs can anyone help me07:38
Kadranskipjack: sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/win3207:38
Kadranskipster23: : sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/win3207:39
Kadransorry skipjack07:39
skipster23alright great i knew i needed superuser access i just didn't know the command to type07:39
Kadranskipster23: but you may add the win32 library to the apt-get so you can install it easely07:40
skipster23how07:40
Kadranhit http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:41
skipster23sudo mkdir told me cannot create directory07:41
Kadranand check Cipherfunk it has win32 codecs07:41
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Kadrani don't know why it made that ? you are now a super user07:43
Kadranok let's try this open the url and generate a sources list and add them to the adept :), it 's mush easier07:44
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manu38_hello every body07:49
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skipster23sorry i needed to take care of my kids, ok i opened the url link now what07:53
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skipster23Kadran: i select breezy i386, us, do i check include updates and security updates07:55
Kadranif you are using pentum and having kubuntu breezy so go ahead and select the update and security update07:57
skipster23kadran: ok then what07:57
Kadranskipster23: and remember to choose Cipherfunk07:57
Kadranskipster23: then click on the generate list button07:58
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skipster23kadran: ok kate opens do i select the deb's and paste them in adept07:59
DeadS0ulk3b isn't installing on dapper =(08:00
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Kadranskipster23: no just open /etc/apt/sources.list with superuser previlage08:00
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Kadranthen replace every thing in the sources.list file with the file created by the site08:01
skipster23by opening the terminal and typeing what08:01
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Kadransudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list08:02
Kadranif you are not familiar with vi just type 'sudo kate'08:03
manu38_Hi, I have a question...   wich difference beetween key WEP and key WPA,  please ?08:03
DeadS0ulWPA is stronger encryption08:03
Kadranskipster23: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:03
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manu38_------> 2048 bits ??08:04
manu38_is it exact ?08:04
zeccozhm08:04
manu38_and the key WEP :  64 to 128 bits08:05
zeccozI'm going to compile XChat08:05
apokryphoszeccoz: why not use konversation? And, why compile?08:06
kkathmanWhy not use kvirc :)08:06
kkathmanhe he08:06
zeccozI'm used to XChat08:06
apokryphoszeccoz: it's really worth trying the other things out there08:07
zeccozand I'm used to compiling08:07
zeccozheh08:07
apokryphoswell, is it a different version you want?08:07
zeccozI'm already trying it08:07
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skipster23kadran: ok i pasted everything now what08:08
zeccozI'm wanting the latest version08:08
zeccozform xchat.org08:08
skipster23kadran: save08:08
Kadranskipster23: save the file08:08
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apokryphoszeccoz: is .2 not going to be only a bugfix release?08:09
Kadranskipster23: then type 'sudo apt-get update' and you will see more sources are included08:09
skipster23kadran: it says "the document could not be saved. as it was not possible to write to file:///ect/apt/sources/list"08:10
zeccozI beleve the non-bugfix + the bugfix should work08:10
zeccozlemme try08:10
zeccozbrb08:10
apokryphoseh?08:10
apokryphosyup, looks like an only-bugfix jump from 2.6.1 to 2.6.208:10
Kadranskipster23: type 'sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list' and see the file again then press save08:11
apokryphosno, don't do that08:11
apokryphos!kdesu08:11
ubotuUse kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.08:11
Kadranskipster23: make sure that it is the new file :)08:11
apokryphosKadran: ...so please don't recommend that :)08:12
alex19como puedo ver la lista de conectados en este canal?08:12
Kadranapokryphos: thanks08:12
apokryphosalex19: Spanish?08:12
Kadranskipster23: as apokryphos said you will use kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:13
apokryphosor Italian, even?08:13
alex19spanish08:13
apokryphos!es08:13
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:13
alex19#ubuntu-es08:14
skipster23kadran: now it says kate has crashed08:14
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alex19??08:14
apokryphosalex19: type /join #ubuntu-es08:14
alex19como me cambio a espa??ol?08:14
morrow!es08:14
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:14
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NthDegreealex19: /join #ubuntu-es08:14
Kadranskipster23: ok, just type 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'08:15
Kadranskipster23: then paste the list from the site and save it and every thing gonna be ok08:15
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skipster23kadran: same error08:17
iNikuum... where/how do I set the order that "walk through windows" in KDE works?08:18
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iNikuI have one KDE setup where repeatedly pressing the key combo will switch back and forth between the two most recently used windows08:19
iNikuand another one where it will walk through them in order so the only way to get back to the previous window is to cycle through them all08:19
iNikuI've seen the setting for that somewhere but can't find it08:19
Tallia1Kubuntudoes anybody have problem with the last fglrx update? my opengl stopped working08:19
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NthDegreewtf lmao08:22
NthDegreesomeone called ubuntu :P08:22
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dickhalliNiku: System Settings -> Regional and Accesibilty08:25
dickhallthe keyboard shortcuts are in there08:25
iNikudickhall: I know, but I want to change the order it walks through the windows08:26
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iNikudickhall: I want to switch between the two most recently used windows with just one keypress instead of having to cycle through all of the windows08:26
iNikuone of my kde setups works like that, the other one doesn't08:27
dickhallhrm. dunno08:27
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dickhallalt-tab works for me ;)08:28
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iNikudickhall: yeah, but does it switch between the two most recent windows with one press?08:28
dickhallyes08:29
iNikudickhall: yeah, that's how I want it too... windows-style :)08:29
iNikuand it works like that on one KDE system here but not on the other one08:29
dickhallI did nothing to change it,that's been the default any time I've ever used KDE08:30
iNikupretty sure I've seen the setting somewhere but I can't remember where.08:30
iNikuahh. just have to enable "show window list while switching windows", then it works like that08:31
iNikuthanks anyway. :)08:31
dickhallodd08:31
dickhallheh, glad you fixed it08:31
iNikuyeah, slightly less than intuitive08:31
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didimohola a todos08:32
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Tallia1Kubuntusorry, somebody can take a look here!!??! i don't understand what's happening..... http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/hW96ft62.html08:39
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skipster23how can i listen to mp3's08:43
dergringo!mp308:43
ubotuwell, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:43
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uwois anyone using kxdocker - have a question about mail notification08:44
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skipster23ubotu: everything at this url is for ubuntu not kubuntu08:48
ubotuokay, skipster2308:48
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dergringoskipster23: ubuntu is nearly equal to kubunto excepting the desktop components08:49
skipster23so then i would use adept then08:50
dergringoskipster23: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s08:50
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dergringoskipster23: or you may prefer to use easyubuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/08:52
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yylexhello.08:57
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dergringohi08:57
milianHello, does anyone know which file I have to choose in eclipse to use spell checking?08:58
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milianMaybe /usr/bin/ispell ?08:58
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milianOr maybe I misunderstood something...08:59
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nox-HandHey08:59
nox-HandDoes anyone know any desktop video recorders?09:00
nox-HandI want to make an xgl demo09:00
Tallia1Kubuntuanybody know what this means?09:00
dergringomilian: I suggest that you ask this at #eclipse :)09:00
Tallia1Kubuntuhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/hW96ft62.html09:00
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Tallia1Kubuntunox-Hand: mhh, yes09:00
Tallia1Kubuntulet me remember the name09:00
Tallia1Kubuntusearch something like istambul09:01
miliandergringo: I'll do that, thanks09:01
dergringomilian: you're welcome09:01
nox-Handistambul?09:01
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Kadrannox-Hand: you can use istanbul09:02
nox-HandKadran, searching09:02
Kadranit is a session recorder09:02
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nox-HandKadran, and it'll record X fine? :)09:02
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Kadransudo apt-get install istanbul09:03
nox-HandYeah, I sorta guessed ;)09:03
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Kadrannox-Hand: i used to record my kde session and it was good but was alittle bit slow09:03
Kadranmade every thing slow, i may be recording in high quality mode or something09:04
nox-HandI wonder how it'll work with xgl :P09:04
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nox-HandThanks =)09:09
roslynDoes ubuntu offer a blank printable calendar?09:11
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nox-Hand|Tom|, Xchat here09:13
nox-HandHow do I check what processes are running?09:13
|Tom|err sudo ps -All ?09:13
nox-HandThanks09:13
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zeccozyoy on xchat but not the latest atm09:15
zeccozyay*09:15
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slow-motionhallo09:19
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|Tom|fucking ralink drivers :\09:22
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h3sp4wn|Tom|: I stopped using mine after it stopped working properly (dapper) switched to atheros - you could try the drivers from sourceforge09:24
h3sp4wn|Tom|: Or you are trying to use network-manager / knetworkmanager (which is not compatible with the drivers)09:25
|Tom|they WERE stable in Breezy and in Suse 10.009:25
|Tom|i think Dapper uses a new version that just screws up the link quality (have to say, better than the new Suse who doesn't even support them anymore)09:26
h3sp4wnThings change they are not now (there is a bug about it)09:26
|Tom|nope am not using knetworkmanager ;)09:26
h3sp4wnSwitch to atheros09:26
h3sp4wnor try the http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page drivers09:28
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|Tom|err i'm using them rt2x00 drivers09:35
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Lost_1Can someone help me with an error I'm getting when I try to configure a program in konsole?09:39
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aseigoLost_1: not unless you provide some details ;)09:40
Lost_1:-P09:40
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Lost_1I keep getting a config error that says "C compiler cannot create executables"09:41
uscg_coreyLost_1:  lookin in the log youll see a package its missing09:41
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uscg_coreyor try and apt-get build-essential might fix your problem09:42
uniqlost_1: install the build-essential package.09:43
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Lost_1w00t! it worked =D09:46
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dusty_Hey guys whats the package name for gtk2.6 I need it installed for development purposes?09:48
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grab-boxhi09:51
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grab-boxi own a d-link 6520+ wlan card, in dapper flight 7 this card was not supported. Will this be fixed in the final release?09:52
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rir1does someone use flumotion on kubuntu ?09:55
_nano_grab-box: you do have a work around using ndiswrapper though09:55
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rir1a file "planet.xml" is missing09:55
grab-box_nano_ no native support as in hoary?09:56
_nano_grab-box: no i meant even though there's no native support, one could always use ndiswrapper09:57
tom-away(if you're not on AMD64 that is)09:57
_nano_grab-box: although I agree, there should be native support for as many cards as possible09:57
grab-box_nano_ when i use ndiwswrapper...will i loose performance?09:58
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_nano_grab-box: I haven't seen much performance difference, but then I don't know much about the internals of ndiswrapper09:58
_nano_grab-box: one consolation is that ndiswrapper uses windows driver written by manufacturers...09:59
rir1no flumotion user ?09:59
rir1what can be used instead ?09:59
jarl_rir1: i see it is on prospective packages .. i dont use it .. but I'll look at it now09:59
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rir1i installed it09:59
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rir1but it's asking for a planet.xml10:00
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wordapparently sector 64105 on my hd is shot to hell10:01
grab-boxis there a programm that can arrange photos automatically as a slideshow with music and transitions. This arrangement should be burned on cd/dvd and be playable on a dvd-player. Anyone an idea?10:01
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wordOpen office presentation?10:03
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kobbHey, I'm trying to get kdevelop3 to run on a new kubuntu install.  When i go to run it it says it cannot find the plug-ins.  Apparently I need to update my kdedirs variable.  The problem is I'm not sure where it should be pointing to.  Any advice?10:04
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wordwhat plugins can it not find? or does it not say?10:06
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katerinahelp!!! Acer Aspire 3614 no modem on kubuntu10:07
rir1jarl_ : fluendo people aren't very talkative :) lol10:07
rir1so the kubuntu version is too old10:08
katerinaprepei mexri avrio na pao ton ypologisti stin adelfi mou!!! den blepei to modem10:08
kobbIt doesn't say what plug-ins it can't find10:08
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kobbI found this thread about my exact problems:10:08
kobbhttp://lists.kde.org/?l=kdevelop&m=109983873512892&w=210:08
_esbenThanks a ton dickhall :D Worked a charm!10:08
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wordkobb: did that provide a solution for you?10:09
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kobbNo, the problem is the person suggests he uses /usr/local/kde for his kde-apps, but I'm not sure where to point KDEDIRS on my own computer.10:09
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worddo you not have a /usr/local/kde?10:11
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kobbNo I don't10:13
kobbit was something he created himself10:13
kobbhe suggests: Obviously /usr/local/kde should be substituted for your own kde dir location.10:13
kobbWhich is where I'm stuck, since I'm not sure about my own kde dir location.10:13
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katerinahelp!!! Acer Aspire 3614 no modem on kubuntu10:14
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katerinasorry for my attitude but I must send the laptop tomorrow to my sister...(:10:15
wordkobb: are you on dapper? and what file contains the 'kdedir' that it looks at?10:15
kobbYeah I'm on dapper10:15
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wordand where are you supposed to specify the kde dir?10:16
kobbit is just a variable, the command suggested is: export KDEDIRS=/usr/local/kde && kbuildsycoca10:16
kobboh10:17
kobbI think I just solved it10:17
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kobbThe problem was I had created a kde directory before issueing the command10:18
kobbThanks for the help10:18
wordnp10:18
wordyay for kubuntu it's still running even though some of it's system files are in a bad sector w00t...10:19
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_nano_!xorg10:24
ubotu[xorg]  To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html10:24
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dhHello10:57
dhI just installed Kubuntu into a another partition :D it seems to run faster than Windows XP (guess no Antivirus and Firewall) does that10:57
dhI was wondering where i could get help in installing programs such as WINE ?10:57
dhand Firefox10:58
xwolf-dh lemme find here.10:58
xwolf-firefox's site has instructions on how to install it on linux10:58
foodcomandh: open adept package manager and enable repositories.10:58
Seantaternot needed -- use APT.10:58
SeantaterWhat foodoman said10:58
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xwolf-is apt's firefox package updated?10:58
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dhAlso I might need help with my mouse as it has 5 buttons the extra 2 I use for BACK and FORWARD.10:59
foodcomandh: you should be able to then search for firefox and wine to install them.10:59
xwolf-last time i tried, installed a really old version.10:59
Seantaterxwolf-: it is in dapper, and dapper will be out in only days10:59
xwolf-right10:59
foodcomandh: Mouse is part of the configuration in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  You might need to google for you mouse some.11:00
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xwolf-dh http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14958511:01
xwolf-what does LTS mean?11:04
skipster23is kubuntu 6.06 drapper drake or breezy11:04
xwolf-dapper11:05
apokryphosxwolf-: long term release11:05
Seantaterxwolf-: Long Term Support11:05
skipster23where can i find kubuntu 6.0611:05
apokryphossupported on the desktop for 3 years, on the server for 511:05
apokryphosskipjack: kubuntu.org11:05
skipster23you have to order it11:05
Seantaterxwolf-: the other's were noly supported 18 months, if I remember correctly11:05
xwolf-hm11:05
apokryphosskipster23: nope, check the announcements11:06
skipster23ok11:06
apokryphosyup11:06
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setiteis kate the only text editor included with kubuntu11:07
xwolf-nope11:08
setitewhat else is there11:08
xwolf-there is also kwrite11:08
setitei tried sudo kate and errored11:08
setiteok11:08
xwolf-try kdesu kate11:08
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setiteok kwrite worked...11:09
mardiHi, can someone tell me how to restart arts?11:09
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setiteok kdesu is chilling11:09
setitenot doing anything yet11:10
dhMaybe I should of tried Madrika...11:10
setiteor did you mean sudo kdesu11:10
xwolf-setite kdesu is the kde equivalent for sudo11:10
xwolf-so 'kdesu kate' would open kate as root.11:10
setiteyea i assumed that... i typed "kdsu kate /etc/network/interfaces"11:10
setitetrying to enable eth011:10
setitegod i hate this.. i used to know how to do this... cant believe i forgot11:11
foodcomandh:  I used to be a mandriva person and came here.11:11
xwolf-setite you didn't miss kd'e'su, did you?11:11
Kadransetite: why you don't try 'ifconfig eth0 up'?11:11
setiteno i didnt miss the i11:11
dhI have never used Linux before. This is why first time trying it. I normally use Windows11:11
mardiAnyone have experience with Skype?11:11
setiteok ill try that11:11
dhSo I am so used to Windows I heard Kubuntu and Madrika are good for newbies.11:11
foodcomandh: No matter what distribution you pick, there is some dues to pay.....IE educating yourself........this is a primo spot to start.....11:12
setiteall the buntus are great starters... just keep using or you may forget like i have11:12
setiteKadran nothin is happening11:12
mardiNo-one knows how to restart arts?11:13
setitei should have configured during install11:13
foodcomandh: I support Windows all day, but I hobby Kubuntu whenever I can....  That means something.11:13
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xwolf-mardi probably '/etc/init.d/arts restart'11:14
xwolf-i don't have it here though11:14
Kadransetite: i try it and it works for me ?11:15
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setitei typed sudo ifconfig eth0 up and nothing happened.. i just get anothe prompt11:16
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dhUsing Adept I think I am installing Firefox11:16
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mardixwolf-: Command '/ect/init.d/arts 'restart'' not found :(11:16
foodcomandh:  Here is a couple links to help get you off the ground11:16
foodcomandh: http://kudos.berlios.de11:16
Skipster23does ubuntu have a gui interface11:17
xwolf-mardi try 'ls /etc/init.d' and search for aRts11:17
foodcomandh: http://www.ubuntuguide.org11:17
xwolf-i think it's aRts.11:17
Skipster23thats what11:17
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xwolf-Skipster23 what do you mean?11:18
Skipster23aRts is what?11:18
mardixwolf-: eek - we have ALSA but no arts11:18
xwolf-mardi well, i can't help you then.11:18
xwolf-Skipster23 i don't remember O-o11:19
xwolf-!aRts11:19
ubotuxwolf-: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:19
mardixwolf-: thanks anyways11:19
Skipster23is it a xwindows app.11:19
foodcomandh:  another great searchable resource...    https://wiki.ubuntu.com and search for example on nvidia, or ati or DVD or codec, things like that11:20
foodcomandh:  Last one.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org11:20
setiteok still cant figure this out... tried the wiki11:21
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Skipster23so kubuntu 6.06 still uses kde11:21
trpr42thats what that k before ubuntu stands for ;)11:22
setiteya11:22
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jarl_hmm :)11:22
crimsunSkipster23: no, kubuntu 6.06 uses windows.11:22
Skipster23duh i knew that11:22
crimsunit just happens to look like KDE and function exactly like KDE, but it's really windows11:22
Skipster23i wasn't thinking for a min. Brain Fart11:22
dhI think Linux is still nor friendly enough for me.11:24
dhThanks anyway11:24
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dhI just needed to know can I remove GRUB Boot loader ?11:24
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foodcomandh: Its a whole new skill level.  Saddle up to the challenge.  Make all your friends look dumb.11:25
Kadrandh just give linux 2 monthes and you will feel that windows is the one who is not user friendly11:25
jeeklHi. A friend of mine just upgraded to KDE 3.5.2 (breezy) and he has now got two google search bars in his konqueror. Anyone know how to get rid of one of them?11:25
Blissexdh: yes, just reinstall the MS Windows one.11:25
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dhI cannot even install a program ......11:25
setiteif it helps my eth0 is listed under network interfaces as a disabled ethernet network device and i cant click it11:25
nixternaldh: use a windows boot disk, boot from that...then type>  fdisk /mbr11:25
nixternalthat will clear the mbr putting it back to stock...11:26
dhNevermind it seems I have installed Firefox.11:26
dhIt was just under "web browser"11:26
Kadrandh: installation process in kubuntu is more more easy than windows11:26
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dhSeems the package manager is quite easy to use11:26
foodcomandh: read the http://kudos.berlios.de.  Kubuntu FAQ.  That will get you off the ground.11:26
Kadrandh: at least you know where good programs are11:27
dhSeems like it installed Firefox 1.0.811:27
setitehaha got it11:28
setitedamnit no i dont11:28
dhThere is 1 thing I really need to know, how can I transfer all my PROGRAMs from Windows to Linux ?11:28
setiteit will enable then immediately disable11:28
Kadrandh: any way just try it and don't be confused by the new names and belive me the next time you will use a windows pc you will find it tooooooo dull11:28
dhSo do I got to install them 1 by 1?11:28
Seantaterdh: programs?11:29
setiteyou cant11:29
dhLike mIRC, Firefox Profile.11:29
Seantaterdh: You will be using Linux programs11:29
dhSorry not the programs itself more like the settings.11:29
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Seantaterdh: better11:29
setitewindows programs run on windows... linux on linux... some things you will be able to install on linux... and programs that have same extensions across platforms will be able to import settings and such.. but not a whole lot beyond that11:29
Seantaterdh: Most of the time -- export -- import -- for each program11:29
dhBasicly I got to use different program s?11:29
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Seantaterdh: not for firefox11:30
Kadrandh: almost every program in windows has a one similar in linux and if there isn't you can run your fav. windows program with wine,11:30
dhCant i just run them all in WINE ?11:30
Seantaterdh: not all11:30
Seantaterdh: only some work11:30
Kadrangames work11:31
Seantaterdh: that's why use use LINUX programs11:31
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setitesome will run.. and possibly poorly at that11:31
Seantaterdh: you would loose some of the point of using linux if you just run everything in wine11:31
dhlol11:31
dhTrue11:32
dhWhat about my Firefox Profile ?11:32
Kadrani really loved linux games more than windows game, but still windows got some cool games to play, like fifa11:32
setiteif you have a legacy self contained app you may get it to run.. but windows apps are getting more dependent on full windows installation11:32
Seantaterdh: try file/import export stuff11:32
dhOkay. 1 last thing what about "Show Desktop" i need that.11:32
Kadrandh right click on the task bar and add an applet11:33
setiteahhh... sudo worked where kdesu didnt.. odd11:33
Jack_SparrowI installed Kweather but it did not find the station/server11:34
setiteyay inet on the lappy at last.. now to install wifi over ndiswrapper11:34
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foodcomanKadran: I think he is looking for the equivilent of a minimize all.11:34
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Kadranfoodcoman: i use Show Desktop button in the special buttton, but how to minimize all?11:35
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Kadranis there a shortcut?11:35
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wordok so 2 problems....the bottom bar thing goes all fuzzy when i dock a window on it....and when I don't skip(ctrl+c) the Enterprise Volume Manager on startup kubuntu doesn't boot11:35
foodcomanKadran: Maybe that will do.  Windows its equiv to Window + D key11:36
KadranJack_Sparrow: i love liquedweather with superkaramba it is more nice and easy11:36
Jack_Sparrowdont know what superkaramba is?11:36
dhI wish I used Linux in the begining it wouldnt have been this hard :(11:37
Jack_SparrowI have used kweather before11:37
Jack_SparrowTrying to finish my full update11:37
crazy_penguingood night everybody ! pleasent dreams ! :)11:37
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Jack_SparrowGoodnight11:37
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Kadransuperkaramba is a desktop wiget that will display some information into your wallpaper11:38
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setiteanyone using kubuntu on a macbook pro?11:38
Jack_SparrowWIll synaptic get it11:39
Kadransetite: what a combination of power :)11:39
setitei know11:39
setiteshit i forgot my eye exam11:39
Jack_Sparrowcya11:39
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dh.mozilla makes it hidden ?11:39
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testerhi there11:40
KadranJack_Sparrow: give superkaramba a shot 'sudo apt-get install superkaramba'11:40
Kadranhi tester11:40
testerargl11:40
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Jack_SparrowWhere do I type that.. In term or run11:41
RedRose2406hey guys11:41
Kadrandh all .anything folder are folders that holds user settings and you don't even need to check those file it is like the registery in windows11:41
Jack_SparrowI am already using synaptic and adept11:41
wordok so 2 problems....the bottom bar thing goes all fuzzy when i dock a window on it....and when I don't skip(ctrl+c) the Enterprise Volume Manager on startup kubuntu doesn't boot11:41
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dhSeems like I found where Firefox keeps my profile :D11:42
KadranJack_Sparrow: search for superkaramba in adept11:42
mardianyone here have experience using Skype11:42
mardi?11:42
Jack_Sparrowwill do after finishing the full update at 70% now11:42
Jack_SparrowThanks11:43
KadranJack_Sparrow: you are welcome11:43
Kadranmardi: i have tried skype?11:43
mardiKadran:  i get a "Segmentation fault" when Skype tries to initiate or recieve a call11:44
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Kadranmardi: strange, try to open skype in a debugger and see where is the problem11:45
mardiKadran: i'm a newbie, how would i open Skype in a debugger please?11:47
Kadranmardi: some time this trick work if you sure that every thing is ok 'LD_KERNEL_ASSUME=2.4 skype'11:47
mardiKadran: but i'm not sure everything is ok :p11:48
Kadranfirst you will open the debugger by typing 'gdb' in the konsole11:48
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Kadranthen write exec-file /usr/bin/skype11:48
Kadranmardi: exec-file /usr/bin/skype11:49
MacSlowCan someone explain to me why konversation works but konqueror cannot resolve any url_11:49
Kadranmardi: then type 'run'11:49
mardish: gdb: command not found11:49
mardiKadran: sh: gdb: command not found11:50
Kadranmardi: so you will need to install gdb first11:50
mardii thought so ;)11:50
Kadransudo apt-get install gdb11:50
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mardiwould it be a problem that Skype is installed in my /home directory?11:52
Kadranmardi: will you tell me how you did the installation?11:53
siljehi, everyone! I have a Packard Bell laptop, witch isnt supported in the old 2.6.12 kernel. In the new kubuntu, kubuntu dapper drake flight 7 the kernel is new. 2.6.15, but when i trie to boot from cd, and i chose "start kubuntu" i get a error simular to this: PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:00:11.0. Anyone seen such a problem before?11:54
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mardiKadran: I downloaded the tar.gz from Skype, unpacked it in my /home directory and ran it from there11:54
mardiKadran: i followed the instructions on the Skype site11:55
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Kadranmardi: ah i c , i have a difirent scinario for you i wish you would folow11:55
siljeanyone?11:55
Kadrandownload http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb11:55
Kadranthen type 'sudo dpkg --install getskype-linux-deb'11:55
Kadranhope it will work11:56
Kadranhi silje11:56
mardiKadran: trying it now11:56
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Kadranmardi: gl11:56
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siljeanyone, know what to do?11:57
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Kadransilje: hope you solve this problem, try to search the wiki for kernel problems11:58
Jack_SparrowHave you tried anything other than a default install11:58
Jack_Sparrowsetting it to vesa video etc11:59
edward_Hi all. I don't suppose anybody fancies walking me through setting up Amarok do they?11:59
mardiKadran: ok, looks like it worked, where should i run it from?11:59
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apokryphosedward_: what's the problem?12:00
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Kadranpress 'alt + F2' the write skype but i recommend to make a menu entry for it with kmenuedit12:00
edward_apokryphos: I can't get it to play any of my tunes, basically! I've tried all amarok engines and things in Adept that I can find.12:01
apokryphosedward_: breezy/dapper?12:02
Jack_SparrowHave you tried changing the repos12:02
Jack_Sparrowlooking for other prog12:02
Kadranedward_: i remember having this problem and some one adviced me here to install the extras but i don't remember the pkg name :(12:02
Kadranbut it worked fine after12:02
Jack_SparrowAh12:02
Jack_Sparrowgood luck , noob myself12:03
apokryphosKadran: on dapper it would've been libxine-extracodecs12:03
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apokryphoson breezy xine automatically has mp3-output, but to use the gstreamer engine you need gstreamer0.8-mad12:03
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edward_I've installed all libxine12:03

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