[12:03] <apokryphos> james_xxx: purge the opera deb that you have, and then install another one.
[12:04] <apokryphos> man dpkg
[12:04] <james_xxx> apokryphos: ok, i am a pthetic newbie... should i type that command into the terminal
[12:05] <james_xxx> pathetic*
[12:05] <apokryphos> james_xxx: anything with "man somecommand" opens up the man (manual) page for that command
[12:05] <apokryphos> it gives information on its usage, the options it has, etc
[12:05] <james_xxx> apokryphos: ok, thanks
[12:08] <Rigonatti> crimsun: no way to desable Modem in BIOS
[12:08] <Rigonatti> travelogue8844
[12:08] <james_xxx> apokryphos: would i just type 'opera purge'?
[12:09] <chuck> ...
[12:09] <chuck> Hello?
[12:09] <crimsun> Rigonatti: ``cat /proc/interrupts''
[12:10] <load> how can I get pbuilder to use a different version of a build-dep?
[12:10] <apokryphos> james_xxx: no... you need to use the dpkg command to remove a package; you could also use apt.
[12:10] <apokryphos> james_xxx: sudo apt-get remove --purge opera
[12:10] <apokryphos> if you want the spoonfeed 8)
[12:11] <Rigonatti> cimsun: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/745743
[12:11] <load> it needs kdelibs4-dev >= 4:3.5.3 but it's trying to use 4:3.4.3
[12:11] <james_xxx> apokryphos: well, i am embarassed. i know so little and sometimes it's pretty humiliating to ask
[12:11] <apokryphos> james_xxx: please do not be; we are here to help :)
[12:11] <chuck> how can I configure my hardware?
[12:12] <apokryphos> james_xxx: many of us like helping if we can, that's why we're here =)
[12:13] <james_xxx> apokryphos: ok, opera has been purged.... should it now be alright to attempt installing it again?
[12:13] <apokryphos> yes
[12:13] <james_xxx> ok
[12:14] <james_xxx> i'll let you know how it went
[12:17] <crimsun> Rigonatti: there's no irq allocated for your sound device (or the modem)
[12:17] <Rigonatti> so... ? what should I do?
[12:17] <crimsun> Rigonatti: how new is this motherboard?
[12:17] <Rigonatti> In windows works perfectly.
[12:17] <crimsun> it doesn't matter what it does in Windows at this point
[12:18] <chuck> hi, I am Charles Miller from NC, but you can call me Chuck, I have just installed kubuntu and I am having problems changing my screen res, I was hopeing someone could help me, I think my problem might be that my video settings are incorrect, can someone please help me, I would appricate it very much if you would.
[12:18] <Rigonatti> crimsun: well... I think maybe 2 years...its a Centrino Processor
[12:18] <crimsun> Rigonatti: please boot with " acpi=on"
[12:18] <dontm> sigh skippy and expocitity arent there yet
[12:18] <dontm> too slow and buggy
[12:18] <dontm> so close though
[12:19] <Rigonatti> ok...erase the acpi=off obtion in GRub ??
[12:19] <crimsun> Rigonatti: change the off to on, yes
[12:19] <james_xxx> apokryphos: ok, not of that seems to have gotten opera to work
[12:19] <james_xxx> none*
[12:19] <Rigonatti> ok...hold
[12:20] <godlkwrth> chuck, what type of monitor do you have, video card, etc. how are you changing the resolution? we need more info.
[12:20] <apokryphos> james_xxx: you still get "segmentation fault"?
[12:20] <james_xxx> apokryphos: yes
[12:21] <apokryphos> then it's a bug, and you should report it
[12:21] <chuck> godlkwrth, I have a Inter chip set, a Mag monitor and I am trying to change via the system settings/display
[12:21] <chuck> Ill get you more detail on it, brb
[12:22] <godlkwrth> chuck, intel chipset? crt or lcd monitor?
[12:22] <chuck> crt
[12:22] <james_xxx> this may have started after i attempted to install (unsuccessfully) the newest version of gaim. i am not sure that is what messed opera up, however i know it was working earlier today
[12:22] <apokryphos> james_xxx: no, that should be unrelated
[12:22] <apokryphos> .
[12:23] <james_xxx> apokryphos: ok, i'll try a bug report
[12:23] <apokryphos> james_xxx: at opera.com
[12:24] <james_xxx> ok
[12:24] <dontm> anyone know of a cool little docking program to monitor cpu and memory usage and such?
[12:24] <godlkwrth> chuck, do you happen to know the exact model of video card?
[12:25] <godlkwrth> I've never heard of Inter
[12:25] <chuck> godlkwrth, I am looking it up
[12:25] <chuck> I do not have PCI or any other slots, I use a chip set for a graphics card
[12:25] <godlkwrth> okay
[12:26] <godlkwrth> what is your current resolution and what resolution are trying to switch to
[12:27] <chuck> right now its 640x480, any I am trying to switch to anything higher
[12:28] <slow-motion> n8
[12:28] <godlkwrth> chuck, are you familiar with the konsole/terminal?
[12:28] <erov> i have the problem as well with a i830 (intel shared graphics) memory card.. it wont go above 640x480 despite being recognized by auto detection in kubuntu settings
[12:28] <apokryphos> chuck: have you read /msg ubotu resolution ?
[12:29] <chuck> ok I got a Inter Corp. 82845G/GL[brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Intergrated Grapichs Device
[12:29] <chuck> apokryphos, someone sent it to me
[12:29] <apokryphos> you can use that
[12:29] <erov> i believe that is close to the same device i have, chuck and I have the same problem
[12:30] <chuck> erov: Were you able to solve your problem?
[12:30] <erov> no
[12:30] <chuck> :(
[12:30] <apokryphos> well, you can
[12:30] <apokryphos> just /msg ubotu resolution and follow the instructions
[12:30] <erov> going to look now at that link
[12:35] <chuck> Hmmm on that site, it says that the motor section in the "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" should have a subsection for resolutions, mine does not, think this could be my problem?
[12:36] <Oli> huhi
[12:36] <Cooner750> Hello
[12:36] <Cooner750> Got a problem
[12:36] <Oli> Erm I'm looking for just some easy working wireless applet, for KDE i dont find any usefull :-\ hints? :)
[12:36] <stevekl> Cooner750: Well what is it?
[12:37] <Cooner750> I burned a copy of Kubuntu @ 4x onto a CD-R. This is a PPC version that I planned to boot on my Mac Mini 1.42Ghz, 512MB RAM. It sits at a grey screen for a few minutes and then starts loading OS X
[12:37] <Cooner750> Yes, I held the C key
[12:37] <Oli> oh i mean on dapper
[12:38] <chuck> brb, see if that fixed it
[12:38] <Cooner750> the disc shows up fine in OS X as "Kubuntu_PowerPC_Breezy"
[12:39] <stevekl> Cooner750: Did you burn the actual iso, or did you just put the iso file onto the CD?
[12:39] <Cooner750> Yes, I burned the image with Disk Utility in OS X
[12:40] <Cooner750> No, I didn't just burn the iso to the disc
[12:40] <stevekl> Cooner750: Can you test it on another machine to see if it boots?
[12:40] <Cooner750> I don't have another Mac here
[12:40] <stevekl> hm
[12:40] <Cooner750> How long do I have to hold C?
[12:40] <AlinuxOS> hello
[12:40] <stevekl> I know nothing about macs
[12:41] <stevekl> but if it won't boot then I think that either means a) something went wrong duirng burning, or b) something is wrong with the file you downloaded
[12:41] <AlinuxOS> does KDE use .fonts.config for its configuration?
[12:41] <stevekl> I would burn it again and see if it boots
[12:41] <AlinuxOS> In gnome I use my own ~/.fonts.config
[12:41] <Cooner750> The cd is quite scratched up, I found it under my computer stand. Might be a possibility
[12:41] <AlinuxOS> what about KDE ?
[12:42] <Cooner750> I cant find any more blank discs...
[12:42] <Brydenn33> can someone help me with FSTAB and getting my Windows HD to mount?
[12:42] <Brydenn33> i have Fstab opened and just dont know what to add to the file
[12:42] <stevekl> Brydenn33: Well you don't have to use fstab to mount something
[12:43] <Brydenn33> well when i right click on my 160HD it said that it cant find it in Fstab
[12:43] <Brydenn33> well when i go to mount it that is... by right clicking and going to mount
[12:43] <stevekl> Oh
[12:43] <Brydenn33> it shows the icon in the media folder
[12:44] <stevekl> I just mount everything with the console, I don't know anything about the application you're using (konquerer?)
[12:44] <Brydenn33> yah konquerer
[12:44] <klerfayt> AlinuxOS: isn't fonts.config the same in both desktop environments?
[12:44] <godlkwrth> Brydenn33, do you want the harddrive mounted on boot?
[12:44] <stevekl> Brydenn33: Yeah I don't know much about it, sorry
[12:44] <Brydenn33> yah i'd like it auto booted everytime
[12:44] <Brydenn33> thanks anyway stevekl
[12:44] <godlkwrth> Brydenn33, what's the device name
[12:44] <godlkwrth> aka /dev/hda3 etc
[12:45] <Brydenn33> yah let me see really quick
[12:45] <AlinuxOS> klerfayt, seems yes.
[12:45] <Brydenn33> godlkwrth: it's hdb1
[12:45] <godlkwrth> okay make a backup copy of /etc/fstab. "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.backup"
[12:45] <godlkwrth> in konsole
[12:46] <Brydenn33> k i did that godlkwrth
[12:46] <godlkwrth> okay "sudo kate /etc/fstab"
[12:46] <godlkwrth> which will open it up in kate
[12:46] <Brydenn33> yah i already got it open :)
[12:47] <godlkwrth> ok "sudo mkdir /media/windows"
[12:47] <godlkwrth> in konsole
[12:47] <stevekl> WHy don't you people just learn to use vim
[12:47] <stevekl> :)
[12:47] <Brydenn33> ok now what godlkwrth
[12:47] <crimsun> (editor wars are still offtopic.)
[12:48] <klerfayt> godlkwrth: kdesu!
[12:48] <godlkwrth> add the line "/dev/hdb1 /media/windows ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222,ro 0 0"
[12:49] <stevekl> Ok, then, "Why don't people learn to edit text files in the console"
[12:49] <stevekl> Happy?
[12:49] <godlkwrth> that will mount it on boot
[12:49] <crimsun> stevekl: (that's their prerogative and again, offtopic.)
[12:50] <godlkwrth> to mount it now type "sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/hdb1 /media/windows"
[12:50] <godlkwrth> in konsole
[12:50] <klerfayt> because most of them don't know how to close and save file after using e.g. vi to edit xorg.conf
[12:50] <Rigonatti> cimsun ?
[12:51] <godlkwrth> got it Brydenn33?
[12:51] <crimsun> Rigonatti: ?
[12:51] <Brydenn33> yah i think so godlkwrth. had to do "kdesu kate etc/fstab/ though
[12:51] <Brydenn33> let me see if it worked :)
[12:51] <Rigonatti> acpi=on halt the boot on "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, Loading Kernel"
[12:51] <crimsun> Rigonatti: sheesh. Well, remove the acpi= stuff completely from the kernel command line, then, and disable the printer port in bios.
[12:52] <Brydenn33> do i need to reboot godlkwrth?
[12:52] <godlkwrth> Brydenn33, did you type in the "sudo mount"... command?
[12:52] <Brydenn33> no i didnt
[12:52] <Rigonatti> my BIOS dont have any support to ENable Disable Prints too
[12:52] <godlkwrth> that will mount it now
[12:52] <Brydenn33> sodu mount what
[12:52] <Brydenn33> hdb1?
[12:52] <godlkwrth> to mount it now type "sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/hdb1 /media/windows"
[12:52] <crimsun> Rigonatti: geez, what /does/ your bios allow you to do?
[12:53] <Brydenn33> k thanks godlkwrth... one sec
[12:54] <Brydenn33> awesome godlkwrth... thank you very much
[12:54] <godlkwrth> if it didn't work you're most likely using fat32 or something
[12:54] <godlkwrth> i assummed you were using ntfs :>
[12:54] <Rigonatti> set boot, IDE, Time and Power
[12:54] <godlkwrth> since no one uses fat32 anymore lol
[12:54] <erov> 915resolution did not work.. detected an intel chipset but was unknown to the program.. I am going to contact the writer
[12:54] <Rigonatti> crimsun: set boot, IDE, Time and Power
[12:55] <Brydenn33> i just installed Dapper 6.06
[12:55] <Brydenn33> so everything is fresh :)
[12:55] <crimsun> Rigonatti: in power, is there anything resembling acpi or the like?
[12:55] <godlkwrth> Brydenn33, keep in mind there is no write support for ntfs
[12:55] <godlkwrth> so you will be greeted with "permission denied" if you try to create a file or modify one
[12:55] <Rigonatti> Power I can set the LCD power ...and the Intel SpeedStep Tech ... and the power management to battery
[12:56] <Brydenn33> i know godlkwrth
[12:56] <Brydenn33> i just want access to it for music etc
[12:56] <chotchki> hey guys i just installed Dapper and have a small problem with my Broadcom card, according to the wiki I need to run 'sudo iwconfig eth1 rate 11M' everytime i join a network, but I have no idea where to put this command, anyone know?
[12:56] <erov> look in Utilities in th start menu.. then Konsole
[12:56] <erov> it will bring up a terminal, chotchki
[12:57] <crimsun> Rigonatti: ok, well, reboot without that acpi= parameter completely
[12:57] <Rigonatti> ok...a second
[12:57] <chotchki> erov: i meant where is the script file, (/me is coming from gentoo) ;)
[12:57] <crimsun> Rigonatti: then pastebin /proc/interrupts before and after loading snd_intel8x0
[12:57] <crimsun> Rigonatti: I'm stepping out for dinner, so I'll be back in 25 minutes.
[12:57] <erov> oh.. duh :P sorry
[12:58] <Brydenn33> ok be back in a bit :)
[12:58] <Rigonatti> how i Load ?
[12:58] <crimsun> Rigonatti: you can't boot without the acpi=off parameter?
[12:58] <godlkwrth> chotchki, you can configure it in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:58] <Rigonatti> I dont think ...but will try ...
[12:59] <Rigonatti> but how should i load snd_intel8x0 ? then I try when you are out for lunch
[12:59] <chotchki> i take it that i can just stick the command right under 'iface eth1 inet dhcp'?
[12:59] <godlkwrth> chotchki, under "iface wlan0" add "wireless-rate 11M"
[01:00] <godlkwrth> yeah
[01:00] <godlkwrth> whatever interface your wireless card is on
[01:00] <oofus> Hi all. Got Dapper installed on an Acer Aspire 1690 series laptop. Works brilliantly. One of the only things not working is the built in Flash card reader. Anybody got any pointers ?
[01:00] <chotchki> cool thanks guys
[01:00] <godlkwrth> chotchki, shouldn't have to reboot
[01:01] <godlkwrth> just issue an "ifdown eth1; ifup eth1"
[01:01] <godlkwrth> or whatever the interface is
[01:01] <chotchki> godlkwrth: true... (/me feels embarassed for forgetting)
[01:02] <godlkwrth> bbl
[01:10] <XVampireX_> http://be-utopia.blogspot.com/
[01:10] <XVampireX_> My blog, funny post, posted it just now
[01:17] <blackflag> hello all
[01:18] <blackflag> I want to upgrade from breezy to dapper
[01:18] <blackflag> but can not find aaa way
[01:18] <blackflag> can someone help?
[01:20] <ingrato> hi
[01:21] <ingrato> can I install WindowMaker using adept?
[01:21] <ingrato> if so, what server do I need to add to display windowmaker on there
[01:22] <XVampireX_> !upgradedapper
[01:22] <ubotu> XVampireX_: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:22] <XVampireX_> I forgot the command blackflag
[01:22] <XVampireX_> It's somewhere at the wiki
[01:23] <XVampireX_> blackflag: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades?highlight=%28dapper%29
[01:29] <ingrato> ih
[01:29] <ingrato> hi
[01:29] <ingrato> ow do I install windowmaker
[01:30] <crimsun> enable universe and install wmaker
[01:41] <evilmegaman> hi I have a SIS integrated graphics thing and I was wondering if there is ANY way to have 3d graphics acceleration even in the slightest..
[01:43] <sorush20> can I play flash movies from video.google.com in konqueror?
[01:44] <Kmirno> plop
[01:44] <Kmirno> oops
[01:44] <Snake[Away] > sorush20: sure
[01:45] <DaSkreech> can someone try apt-get install amanda?
[01:46] <sorush20> evey time I try to access google.com I keep getting refered to google.co.uk? why/
[01:47] <sorush20> using konqueror
[01:47] <Snake[Away] > sorush20: no ider
[01:49] <dickhall> sorush20: it's likely detecting your IP and redirecting you based on where you live
[01:49] <dickhall> google.com goes to google.ca to me
[01:49] <dickhall> does it really matter to you?
[01:50] <Brydenn33> ok so i installed Automatrix and for some reason I cant seem to get the nVidia settings to come up
[01:50] <Brydenn33> any ideas?
[01:50] <ingrato> crimsun, thanks now do I add it to the kdm menu?
[01:51] <The^nike> @mp3
[01:51] <The^nike> !mp3
[01:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:52] <crimsun> ingrato: check and see if there's a session file if not already
[01:52] <ingrato> a session file where?
[01:52] <ingrato> in what directory?
[01:54] <james_xxx> apokryphos: in case you come across anyone else having the same problem with opera i was having, i went ahead and installed the new beta and it seems to work fine. i could not get other versions to work
[01:57] <drix> I just installed kubuntu-desktop with apt-get install, and when I boot up, I get the kubuntu desktop login area, but when I login, I go to GNOME
[01:57] <drix> any idea why, or how to fix it?
[01:58] <drix> anyone?
[01:59] <DaSkreech> Anyone have Dapper 6 minutes a net connection and universe enabled?
[01:59] <godlkwrth> Brydenn33, i'm back, i can't send pm's tho
[01:59] <DaSkreech> drix: Go to session and change it to KDE
[01:59] <Brydenn33> ok
[01:59] <Brydenn33> well you are familiar with Automatrix right?] 
[01:59] <HymnToLife> owww Automatix...
[01:59] <godlkwrth> no
[01:59] <HymnToLife> !automatix
[01:59] <ubotu> automatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[02:00] <Brydenn33> hehe ok didnt know about easyubuntu
[02:00] <Brydenn33> basically i'm trying to get my nvidia drivers installed
[02:00] <Brydenn33> when i had breezy it worked fine
[02:00] <Brydenn33> should i try easyubuntu?
[02:00] <DaSkreech> drix: That would be on the login screen btw :-)
[02:00] <HymnToLife> Dapper is on #ubuntu+1 still :p
[02:01] <DaSkreech> technically no as far as I know
[02:01] <DaSkreech> Though I guess they could help :-)
[02:02] <Brydenn33> brb
[02:02] <godlkwrth> Brydenn33, isn't nvidia well supported by default?
[02:03] <DaSkreech> can someone try to install amanda-server from adept?
[02:03] <Brydenn33> i'm sure it is godlkwrth
[02:04] <Brydenn33> but i like being updated :)
[02:04] <godlkwrth> I wouldn't mess with nvidia drivers
[02:04] <drogen> whats a good screen shot app?
[02:05] <godlkwrth> I like being up-to-date as well, but unless something isn't working as fast as it should or something I see no reason
[02:05] <Brydenn33> drogen: ksnapshot is default
[02:05] <Brydenn33> just go to Graphics
[02:05] <Brydenn33> you'll see it there
[02:05] <evilmegaman> anyone know if SIS graphics can play darwinia?
[02:05] <drogen> k thanks
[02:05] <Brydenn33> np
[02:06] <Bilford> tj9991, did your storage issue magically resolve itself yet
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> I  just installedKU and I cant seem to run a sh script
[02:07] <Bilford> are you using  /.nameofscript
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> I didnt have a problem yesterday
[02:07] <imbrandon> its ./script
[02:07] <imbrandon> not /.
[02:07] <imbrandon> ;)
[02:07] <Bilford> oops
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> it is install of theme
[02:08] <imbrandon> cant seem to run it dosent help up much though Jack_Sparrow , how exactly did you try to run it, what is the error , that kinda stuff ;0
[02:08] <DaSkreech> drogen: Press Print screeen
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> icons.install.sh
[02:09] <Bilford> ...
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> I just tried toclick it
[02:09] <imbrandon> ah shell scripts arent run that way, they are runfrom the shell, IE the name ;)
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Thoughtthat is what Idid whenIinstalled it yesterdaay
[02:10] <imbrandon> open a terminal and type ./icons.install.sh
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:11] <drogen> can i update from 5.10 to 6.06
[02:11] <drogen> by downloading the iso or something
[02:11] <drogen> i could do that with FC
[02:11] <imbrandon> !upgrade
[02:11] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[02:11] <imbrandon> sure, read that ^^
[02:11] <drogen> thanks man
[02:12] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: do you have universe setup and adept open? :-)
[02:12] <imbrandon> i dont use adept, but yes i have universe
[02:12] <imbrandon> whats up?
[02:12] <godlkwrth> bryden33: dapper comes with latest nvidia drivers
[02:12] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: You don't use adept==not installed?
[02:13] <Brydenn33> well if it does my resolution or something is messed up
[02:13] <imbrandon> i CAN open it if you need something, yes its installed, i just use apt-get most ofg the time, whats yup?
[02:13] <DaSkreech> can You install amanda-server from adept?
[02:13] <imbrandon> godlkwrth, it comes with them but not installed
[02:14] <NthDegree> imbrandon, if you choose the complete kernel then they are :)
[02:14] <imbrandon> DaSkreech, i can try after while
[02:14] <godlkwrth> i tried flight 7 on amd64 and lsmod showed nvidia was loaded
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> it could not find the file.
[02:14] <imbrandon> NthDegree, right if you CHOOSE, but not by default
[02:14] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: Sure let me know when it's installed
[02:14] <NoMorePuts> Does anyone know of an Adept Repository that supports mySQL 5.x?
[02:14] <drogen> whats gksudo?
[02:14] <drogen> i dont have it.
[02:14] <DaSkreech> drogen: are you updating from Kubuntu?
[02:15] <drogen> yes
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> imbrandon: I wanted helpwith that theme
[02:15] <DaSkreech> try kdesu instead
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> please
[02:15] <NthDegree> it isn't gksudo anyway for most stuff 'tis gksu and it does the same thing
[02:15] <drogen> is there a kubuntu tutorial
[02:15] <imbrandon> Jack_Sparrow, i havent packaged it up yet, been working on dapper release stuff , i'll get tit some some time ;)
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:17] <DaSkreech> drogen: You mean a Linux tutorial?
[02:17] <drogen> yes
[02:17] <drogen> its giving me an error
[02:17] <imbrandon> drogen,
[02:17] <DaSkreech> drogen: where?
[02:17] <drogen> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[02:17] <drogen> Xlib: No protocol specified
[02:17] <DaSkreech> Which error?
[02:17] <DaSkreech> hmm
[02:17] <DaSkreech> ok
[02:17] <drogen> i feel like such a noob lol
[02:17] <DaSkreech> who are you logged in as?
[02:17] <drogen> i know FC5 like the back of my hand
[02:17] <imbrandon> drogen, read this page .... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades and follow the part  ..... Upgrading by changing sources and the command line
[02:17] <drogen> su
[02:17] <DaSkreech> yourself I take it :)
[02:18] <drogen> lol
[02:18] <drogen> I love FC5
[02:18] <drogen> but its... getting old
[02:18] <DaSkreech> safest way is to do it from command line
[02:18] <imbrandon> drogen, read this page .... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades and follow the part  ..... Upgrading by changing sources and the command line
[02:19] <drogen> you know what i mean?
[02:19] <drogen> red hat is sexy
[02:19] <drogen> but not that sexy
[02:19] <imbrandon> redhat and other rpm based distros are a pita
[02:19] <drogen> lol
[02:19] <imbrandon> dont troll , you wanted to know how, thats how ;)
[02:19] <drogen> one question
[02:19] <imbrandon> sure ;)
[02:20] <james_xxx> ok some dumb questions.... should i be running an anti-virus program and a firewall on kubuntu?
[02:20] <drogen> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[02:20] <drogen> do i change the link?
[02:20] <imbrandon> james_xxx, firestarted == firewall , klamav == anti virus
[02:20] <imbrandon> drogen, you change the "breezy" to "dapper" , did you not read the link i gave you ?
[02:21] <james_xxx> imbrandon: those are command line entries? (yeah, i have to ask)
[02:21] <drogen> nvm
[02:21] <drogen> lol
[02:21] <drogen> i was being stupid
[02:21] <drogen> yes im reading it
[02:21] <imbrandon> james_xxx, no
[02:21] <imbrandon> thats the names of the programs
[02:21] <imbrandon> you ask about
[02:21] <james_xxx> ok
[02:21] <drogen> man.
[02:21] <drogen> how do i enable log in with root?
[02:21] <james_xxx> imbrandon: can they be downloaded from repositories?
[02:22] <imbrandon> drogen, you dont in kubuntu or ubuntu
[02:22] <imbrandon> james_xxx, yes
[02:22] <drogen> than how do i save the sources list?
[02:22] <james_xxx> imbrandon: ok thanks!
[02:22] <imbrandon> sudo
[02:22] <DaSkreech> james_xxx: to answer your question yes if yo uwant to feel safer ... meh! not really :)
[02:22] <drogen> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list.
[02:22] <drogen> Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[02:22] <imbrandon> sudo
[02:23] <imbrandon> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list or kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:23] <imbrandon> rtfm ;) its all on the page ;)
[02:24] <james_xxx> DaSkreech: is it considered to be fairly unnecessary with linux? even running a firewall?
[02:24] <drogen> ty brandon
[02:24] <DaSkreech> Oh wait
[02:24] <imbrandon> james_xxx, you shouldent need a antivirus but firewall if you dont use a router is nice
[02:24] <DaSkreech> swap those I thought you asked about firewall first :-)
[02:24] <DaSkreech> a firewall is a good diea :)
[02:24] <DaSkreech> idea
[02:25] <imbrandon> if your not running a router ( acts as a firewall already )
[02:25] <nnn0> yeah you should run a firewall, but antivirus you probably don't need
[02:25] <james_xxx> all routers act as firewalls?
[02:25] <drogen> hey brandon
[02:25] <drogen> is the past comman
[02:25] <imbrandon> if they use nat james_xxx yes
[02:25] <NthDegree> kubuntu has ipchains which IS A FIREWALL
[02:25] <drogen> control v
[02:25] <drogen> paste
[02:25] <drogen> command*
[02:25] <james_xxx> man i am so ignorant lol... i have no idea what nat is
[02:25] <nnn0> yeah kubuntu is ready set up with firewall
[02:25] <drogen> in nano
[02:25] <nnn0> you can use Guarddog to inteface to it
[02:26] <imbrandon> drogen, right click paste, or ctl v
[02:26] <NthDegree> NAT = Network Address Translation
[02:26] <dipnlik> hi all. how can i *completely* remove a package and its settings?  having weird problems with kpilot
[02:26] <DaSkreech> james_xxx: ask Google :) or Wikipedia
[02:26] <NthDegree> use adept dipnlik
[02:26] <imbrandon> james_xxx, type ifconfig , if you see 192.168.X.X then you are nat behind your router , no need for firewall then
[02:27] <nnn0> everyone should run a firewall
[02:27] <imbrandon> dipnlik, apt-get --purge remove kpilot
[02:27] <imbrandon> nnn0, one yes, not more than one
[02:27] <nnn0> :)
[02:28] <nnn0> depends - i run sevarl - i trust nobody ;)
[02:28] <nnn0> several even
[02:28] <james_xxx> ok i guess i do not need a firewall
[02:28] <drogen> yesss
[02:28] <drogen> it works
[02:28] <nnn0> aarrrggg
[02:28] <james_xxx> according to ifconfig
[02:28] <imbrandon> thats good but most of us only have home pc's behind our firewalls , if someon wants to take the time to crack that then they are stupid
[02:28] <drogen> thanks brandon
[02:28] <dipnlik> imbrandon, NthDegree: thanks
[02:29] <imbrandon> james_xxx, its not that you dont need one, you alrady have one running on your router ;)
[02:30] <NthDegree> no problem dipnlik, since this is a support channel :)
[02:30] <nnn0> well - let's say your on a wlan, or in a computer lab or whatever - i always use a local firewall aswall
[02:30] <nnn0> aswell
[02:30] <imbrandon> nnn0, like i said this is about home pc's ;) not special cases
[02:30] <drogen> imbrandon, do you know if 6.06 supports broadcom chipsets
[02:31] <imbrandon> drogen, no ( broadcom as far as i know isnt support in any version of linux anywhere )
[02:31] <nnn0> but at home, i don't trust that cheap router/nat/firewall/hub thingy one bit :D
[02:31] <DaSkreech> oh wait
[02:32] <imbrandon> nnn0, like i said thats fine if you have ft knox to protect but MOST people only have normal home pc's behind the firewall and its not worth the time to a cracker
[02:32] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: Did you do a dist-upgrade to dapper?
[02:32] <imbrandon> DaSkreech, i've been running dapper for months
[02:32] <DaSkreech> Hmm :-(
[02:32] <DaSkreech> That might not mirror my experince :-(
[02:32] <DaSkreech> in anycase when you install amanda let me know
[02:33] <nnn0> it's like saying; ok - since i'm doing this AIDS guy at home, i just need One condom :D
[02:34] <nnn0> most attacks are automated and they don't care who you are - they just want your credit card number or whatever
[02:34] <imbrandon> no its like saying , i am protected to this level, is it worth the headache to run multi firewalls , ask your self what your protecting, your mp3's ? is someone gonna realy take the time to crack your 128bit wep key and router JUST TO DELETE yoyr mp3's?
[02:35] <nnn0> i'm protecting my life !!!
[02:35] <imbrandon> nnn0, automated atacks target business , join a alt 2600 meeting sometime ;)
[02:35] <nnn0> imbrandon, you have abviously not attacked many ;)
[02:35] <nnn0> obviously even
[02:36] <nnn0> maybe if you really really piss someone of - it gets personal
[02:36] <nnn0> mostly at just robots cracking day and night
[02:37] <nnn0> IP after IP
[02:37] <imbrandon> thats in special case when you piss someone off and robots target business, yea ok, i got my point accross and you got yours, stop the troll conv in here ( take it to #kubuntu-offtopic if you want , i wont be joining you )
[02:37] <nnn0> yeah yeah yeah
[02:38] <nnn0> ;)
[02:39] <DaSkreech> Anyone installed dapper from a CD?
[02:39] <nnn0> i did
[02:40] <nnn0> from the SimplyMEPIS 6.0 beta 3 CD :)
[02:40] <DaSkreech> _neoncode: hi
[02:40] <james_xxx> how can you install dapper from a mepis CD?
[02:40] <james_xxx> ...
[02:40] <nnn0> guess ;)
[02:41] <james_xxx> my guess is you can't, but heck if i know
[02:41] <nnn0> maybe they use the dapper pool now
[02:41] <nnn0> so it's all dapper
[02:41] <nnn0> but with all the extra of course
[02:41] <nnn0> :)
[02:41] <james_xxx> i knew simplymepis was based on ubuntu, but didn't know they were quite that close
[02:42] <dipnlik> nnn0: what are these "extras" ?
[02:42] <james_xxx> nnn0:  do you like simplymepis better than kubuntu?
[02:42] <dipnlik> nnn0: what you like about mepis? i don't know it
[02:42] <nnn0> mepis was debian based, not ubunto based
[02:42] <nnn0> i like the live cd
[02:42] <Bilford> my script works when I run it in the console, but when it runs via cronjob, it does some weird directory things.  any ideas why?
[02:42] <Bilford> shell script
[02:42] <nnn0> it's very easy to fix grub and stuff
[02:43] <james_xxx> according to what i've read, simplymepis is actuall ubuntu based (which is naturally debian-based), is this wrong?
[02:43] <nnn0> mepis is both a live and instll cd in one
[02:43] <james_xxx> yeah, i have that simplymepis CD
[02:43] <imbrandon> mepis is ubuntu based yes
[02:44] <nnn0> so it's still like that but they went from 3.4.3 to 6.0 beta
[02:44] <nnn0> so the dapper based is still in beta
[02:44] <imbrandon> so is dapper ;)
[02:44] <nnn0> excatly
[02:44] <james_xxx> will there likely be many changes from what is available now and what dapper will be at release?
[02:44] <nnn0> http://mepis.org/
[02:45] <imbrandon> james_xxx, no
[02:45] <james_xxx> i didn't think so
[02:46] <nnn0> and in one instance - on a laptop, kubuntu wouldn't initialize the diplay, but mepis did it easy - widescreen even
[02:47] <nnn0> X700 i think
[02:47] <Bilford> tj9991, did your storage issue magically resolve itself yet
[02:50] <word> How do you set the default application for .torrent files?
[02:51] <Bilford> right click the file
[02:51] <Bilford> select Properties
[02:51] <Bilford> click that wrench Icon
[02:52] <word> does that also set the default icon for torrents?
[02:52] <word> Ah, just had to refresh. Thanks :D
[02:54] <DaSkreech> nnn0: Do you have universe enabled?
[02:54] <nnn0> yes i think so
[02:54] <DaSkreech> can you use adept and get amanda-server?
[02:55] <nnn0> sorry i was just about to smoke a banana - brb
[03:02] <Rigonatti> hi all !
[03:03] <NthDegree_> hi
[03:03] <Rigonatti> does anyone know how to setup a sound card  in kubuntu ?
[03:03] <nixternal> what kind of soundcard?
[03:04] <NthDegree> Rigonatti - your sound card should already work
[03:04] <NthDegree> try system settings and look at the sound options
[03:04] <ChunSleep> you trying to get it to work w/ digital?
[03:05] <Rigonatti> nope...i got a error right KDE starts
[03:08] <Rigonatti> NthDegree: can you lend me a help ?
[03:08] <ChunHui> try some other audio/video files see if sound plays
[03:09] <ChunHui> cuz it might just be a missing kde startup sound file
[03:10] <sampan_> i have a serious problem.  been trying to set up a small network -- just rebooted kubuntu and my kde is really messed up
[03:11] <sampan_> i didn't change any settings except for my eth0 connection (disabled ppp0) ... but i can't even get a panel or anything
[03:12] <NthDegree> ol Rigonatti
[03:12] <NthDegree> ok*
[03:12] <NthDegree> try system settings > sound & multimedia @ Rigonatti
[03:16] <Bilford> my Google fonts are really tiny.  anyone else have that
[03:18] <pervez> Unable to set display properly on intel d101 board. is it supported on kubuntu linux?
[03:19] <_marco> hrllo
[03:19] <_marco> hello
[03:19] <_marco> i wanna know how can i see what ADEPT tell me after i have installed a package
[03:20] <_marco> it appear and disappe in a second......
[03:20] <_marco> plese anybody?
[03:21] <_marco> what is the name of the file where's saved it?
[03:21] <_marco> mmmm
[03:44] <Brydenn33> godlkwrth: can you tell me again how to auto mount my windows HD hehe
[03:44] <Brydenn33> i erased my HD and reinstalled :)
[03:46] <Brydenn33> can anyone help me with that?
[03:47] <imbrandon> Brydenn33, sorry i got to run but to get you started it should look SOMETHING like this in /etc/fstab "/dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1"
[03:47] <imbrandon> with a diffrent gid etc
[03:47] <Brydenn33> i have the fstab info
[03:48] <imbrandon> then put the fstab info on the line under /boot or / and it should automount on bootup
[03:48] <imbrandon> gotta run bbab
[03:52] <Bilford> Konqueror has lots of nice features as a web browser
[03:52] <pervez> I run Kubuntu Dapper. I installed akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad. Still unable to play mp3 from amarok. Amarok takes xine as the engine
[03:53] <Bilford> you can configure the plugins
[03:53] <Bilford> i can type    movie star wars   in the address bar, and it goes to IMDB
[03:54] <Bilford> or   g kubuntu   for a Google Kubuntu search
[03:54] <Bilford> etc
[03:54] <Bilford> gn for google news
[03:54] <Bilford> whatever shortcuts you configure
[03:56] <pervez> Bilford: Iam used to Ctrl+Enter;when pressed firefox prefixes address bar contents with www. and suffixes it with .com How do I do it on konqueror?
[03:56] <joel> Hi first time installing and using Linux. I downloaded Firefox and untared it or unziped it now I don't know how to run or install it?
[03:57] <Bilford> hm
[03:58] <joel> The instructions on firfoxs web site is to just untar it?
[03:59] <_nano_> joel: just go to that untarred folder and type ./firefox in console
[03:59] <Bilford> pervez, you type, and it adds the suffix, but Im still trying to find out how to add the .com
[03:59] <orangey> hey all!
[04:00] <orangey> quick q about dapper: I have upgraded from breezy, and I can no longer find a way to configure my dpms powersaving to turn off my screen automagically.. where did it go?
[04:01] <crabgrass> in kde if you are copying one folder into another, does it replace the folder or copy the new contents into it.  it is asking me if i want to overwrite all
[04:01] <pervez> orangey:probably system settings?
[04:01] <joel> hmm ok it asked me "Do you really want to execute 'file:///home/joel/firefox/firefox'?" I press execute and nothing?
[04:02] <pervez> joel:why don't u install it with adept
[04:03] <joel> wow no clue I am a real n00b were do I fund adept?
[04:03] <orangey> pervez: do I have to have 'acpi' enabled?
[04:04] <orangey> pervez: or where within system settings could that be found? I've run through the whole thing, and where it used to be - display - gives an error saying it's no longer there.
[04:04] <pervez> joel:K button->system->Adept
[04:05] <Ademan_> anyone here use kdevelop?
[04:05] <pervez> oarangey:display icon
[04:05] <orangey> pervez: huh?
[04:06] <orangey> pervez: the Display icon is still there, but clicking it gives an error.
[04:06] <joel> Thank you now it started to download
[04:07] <pervez> orangey:hmm.... what's the error message?
[04:07] <joel> I am dual os on two partitions is there any way to accsess my documents on a NTFS partition?
[04:07] <orangey> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/33259
[04:08] <pervez> joel: you could read files from ntfs partition
[04:09] <word> what's with the 'write permissions' checkbox when you mount ntfs partitions in dapper?
[04:09] <orangey> hmm.
[04:10] <orangey> how do I run 'kde-guidance'?
[04:10] <joel> when I press on that HDD it says "Could not enter folder /media/hda1"
[04:11] <joel> an error?
[04:11] <joel> it might not be nt?
[04:11] <word> it's ntfs
[04:11] <word> windows xp = ntfs unless you upgraded from a later version of windows
[04:12] <joel> do you know what the error means?
[04:12] <chotchki> hey guys i am trying to run gconf-editor to setup compiz but it just seems to hang with no output, anyone seen this before?
[04:14] <_nano_> joel: check the permissions of the mounted file system
[04:14] <_nano_> joel: you have to add umask=0 for the respective filesystem entry in the fstab file
[04:15] <_nano_> joel: so that all users can access that mount
[04:16] <Brydenn33> can one of you help me to auto mount my windows HD?
[04:16] <joel> it says it is mounted and can view, is it supos to be unmounted?
[04:17] <_nano_> joel: you can view the filesystem? if you can browser through it then what's the problem?
[04:17] <_nano_> joel: writing to ntfs partition is still experimental and is not advisable
[04:17] <_nano_> !ntfs
[04:17] <ubotu> ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe.
[04:17] <joel> I try to change to all users and it says "Could not change permissions for /media/hda1"
[04:17] <joel> no nothing come up
[04:17] <_nano_> joel: coz the partition is owned by the root..
[04:17] <joel> I can't view the filesystem
[04:18] <_nano_> joel can you pastebin your fstab file?
[04:18] <_nano_> joel: /etc/fstab
[04:18] <joel> do it "/etc/fstab" in the comand
[04:18] <joel> ?
[04:19] <_nano_> kedit /etc/fstab
[04:19] <GullyFoyle> ca /etc/fstab
[04:19] <GullyFoyle> cat
[04:19] <_nano_> go to www.pastebin.com and paste the file contents..and post the link
[04:20] <joel> ok I posted it
[04:20] <paperangel> hey imbrandon
[04:20] <paperangel> this is drogen
[04:20] <_nano_> joel: link?
[04:21] <paperangel> what was the link again
[04:21] <paperangel> for the sources.list
[04:21] <_nano_> !sources.list
[04:21] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:21] <paperangel> ty
[04:21] <joel> http://pastebin.com/746050
[04:22] <joel> this link?
[04:23] <_nano_> joel: yea
[04:23] <_nano_> joel: type this command now
[04:24] <joel> yes?
[04:25] <_nano_> joel: go to file browser in super user mode
[04:26] <joel> wow no clue how to do super user mode and were the file browswer is
[04:26] <_nano_> joel: ok open console (forget the file browser)
[04:27] <_nano_> joel: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[04:28] <_nano_> joel: done?
[04:28] <joel> what is sudo nano?
[04:28] <joel> I tryed doing command "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[04:29] <_nano_> joel: what happened when you did that?
[04:29] <Rigonatti> can anyone help me with alsa ?
[04:29] <_nano_> joel: sudo -- executing in superuser mode
[04:29] <_nano_> !sudo
[04:29] <ubotu> somebody said sudo was a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:29] <orangey> hey all. any kde-guidance folk here?
[04:29] <joel> nothing
[04:30] <orangey> I'm looking to modify /usr/share/apps/guidance/pcitable to support my card
[04:30] <_nano_> joel: no error nothing?? o_O
[04:30] <orangey> as I've described here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/37275
[04:30] <joel> I will try agian
[04:31] <Riddell> orangey: you want _Sime
[04:31] <Riddell> who will be asleep
[04:31] <orangey> Riddell: what time zone is he in?
[04:31] <Riddell> europe
[04:31] <Rigonatti> hi ..can someone take a look ? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/746058
[04:31] <Brydenn33> is there a reason why i cant play mp3's
[04:31] <orangey> Riddell: OK. p.s., as a happy Kubuntu user, thank you so much for all your work. : )
[04:32] <orangey> Riddell: will he receive my bug report?
[04:32] <Riddell> orangey: he will, he's good like that
[04:32] <joel> hmm wird nothing I closed all except this chat program then ran "sudo nano /etc/fstab" in the comand
[04:33] <orangey> Riddell: wonderful. thank you.
[04:33] <Rigonatti> =(
[04:33] <psyke83> hi, when I try to run a certain app it complains "(/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_Dispatch)". Usually I'd just use "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 app", but this time it doesn't help, are there any other libs I can try preloading too?
[04:34] <_nano_> joel: let's try another approach then....all i'm trying to do is make you edit the fstab as root
[04:34] <_nano_> joel: go to run command in the kmenu
[04:34] <joel> ok
[04:34] <Rigonatti> hey guys, can someone lend me a help? Im almost giving up of ubunt =(
[04:34] <_nano_> joel: there must be an option there to run command as superuser
[04:36] <joel> run comand I did "options" there are three things "run in terminal window, run as a different user, run with different priority
[04:37] <_nano_> joel: go to run as a different user...with username: root and password: your password
[04:37] <_nano_> root password
[04:38] <_nano_> joel: pm?
[04:38] <joel> ok "pm" what do you mean/
[04:38] <_nano_> pm = personal message
[04:39] <joel> ok but it says I am block because not registered
[04:40] <_nano_> joel: /msg nickserv register passwd
[04:40] <Rigonatti> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/746058
[04:40] <Rigonatti> ops
[04:41] <joel_> how do I change my nickname
[04:42] <Rigonatti> hey guys, can someone lend me a help? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/746058
[04:42] <joel_> newnickname vose
[04:43] <_nano_> joel_: slash nick newnickname
[04:50] <DeadS0ul> is it just me or has i2c-source removed from dapper
[05:17] <Bilford> tj9991, did your storage problem magically fix itself yet
[05:20] <steven_> Anyone online this late?
[05:21] <steven_> I'm trying to install a new splashscreen and theme. Can someone walk me through it?
[05:24] <steven_> I'm trying to install a new splashscreen and theme. Can someone walk me through it?
[05:26] <steven_> I'm trying to install a new splashscreen and theme. Can someone walk me through it?
[05:29] <steven_> Can someone please answer me?
[05:31] <word> Why would a 256 mb usb drive appear as 261 in linux and like 249 in windows?
[05:31] <steven_> I'm trying to install a new splashscreen and theme. Can someone walk me through it?
[05:31] <apokryphos> steven_: check the howtos on kdelook.org
[05:31] <steven_> To answer your question because no one will answer mine. I dont know what your talking about.
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> would lovetoknowthat myself
[05:32] <apokryphos> steven_: you spoke too soon 8)
[05:32] <Vose> !samba
[05:32] <ubotu> methinks samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> I was trying to install XP theme
[05:32] <apokryphos> word: just different ways in which they read the bytes, I guess.
[05:32] <steven_> apokryphos->kde-look doesn't say anything about it.
[05:32] <word> Meh :-/
[05:32] <steven_> apokryphos->It only says to find some folder and put the theme files in there.
[05:32] <timothy> hello
[05:32] <steven_> apokryphos->But there is no such folder.
[05:33] <apokryphos> steven_: then create it
[05:33] <apokryphos> hi timothy
[05:33] <timothy> hello
[05:34] <timothy> do you know where I can get automake1.6 for dapper?  kdevelop needs it
[05:34] <DaSkreech> Riddell: Whats landscape? A Kubuntu sabayon?
[05:34] <apokryphos> steven_: and anyway.......the tutorial for splash screen setup says nothing about creating a folder.
[05:34] <steven_> apokryphos->But what exactly is: ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes? What does the ~ mean, and a folder cant start with a period can it?
[05:35] <PyroMithrandir> anything that starts with a . is hidden
[05:35] <apokryphos> steven_: well, that's not a splash screen is it
[05:35] <timothy> ~ is your home folder
[05:35] <steven_> apokryphos->Yeah, the splash screen tutorial is written as if your installing stuff in XP. Which I'm not. There is no CONTROL PANEL?
[05:35] <steven_> timothy->Ohhh! Thanks
[05:36] <apokryphos> (i) it's nto a splash screen that you're trying to install
[05:36] <steven_> splash and theme.
[05:36] <timothy> yeriod is a hudden folder
[05:36] <timothy> it is usualy used for user settings
[05:36] <apokryphos> steven_: no; kdm has nothing to do with the splash theme, so that's not what you're trying to install, or you're viewing the wrong howto.
[05:37] <apokryphos> steven_: also, where exactly do you see a mention of the "CONTROL PANEL"?
[05:37] <apokryphos> link?
[05:37] <kkathman> howdy apokryphos :)
[05:37] <steven_> http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=35
[05:37] <apokryphos> hi kkathman
[05:37] <steven_> "Goto Control Panel"
[05:38] <apokryphos> steven_: (i) "~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themescan it?" appears nowhere there; (ii) it says control center, not control panel.
[05:38] <apokryphos> geez
[05:38] <timothy> goto a command line ty.e kcontrol
[05:39] <steven_> Nice, thanks timothy.
[05:39] <steven_> Sorry apokryphos, I guess I'm too used to XP.
[05:40] <timothy> btw the xp splash screen should already be there
[05:41] <kkathman> hey apokryphos Im trying to start konq in the file manager mode, with the midnight-commander profile, at root.. I thought that kdesu konqueror --profile midnight-commander would do it...but its doesnt...you know what Im doing wrong?
[05:41] <timothy> it's caller redmond
[05:41] <kkathman> I also tried kfmclient too :(
[05:41] <steven_> timothy->Ok, I got the splashscreen installed. Now how exactly do I install the theme? It wont show it under Theme Manager.
[05:42] <apokryphos> kkathman: quotations?
[05:42] <apokryphos> the option belongs to konqueror, not kdesu
[05:42] <kkathman> apokryphos:  you know in SUSE there is a superfile manager'
[05:42] <kkathman> i want the same capability
[05:42] <kkathman> in Dapper
[05:43] <apokryphos> didn't know there was, but hey; I pretty much never venture into root konqueror
[05:43] <kkathman> ahh ok
[05:43] <apokryphos> anyhow, yeah, you need the quotes in there =)
[05:43] <kkathman> quotes AFTER kdesu ?
[05:43] <timothy> steven_->I don't know which one you are trying to install
[05:44] <apokryphos> kkathman: yup, of course. If you think about it, it'll try to process --profile and midnight-commander as arguments/options of kdesu, if you run it like that
[05:44] <timothy> no answer to my question :(
[05:44] <apokryphos> when really what you're trying to say is run x as kdesu; so kdesu x, where x is --profile midnight-commander
[05:44] <steven_> timothy->I got the splash screen installed. Now I want to install the theme that matches it. But it doesn't show up when I try and point the Theme Manager to it.
[05:46] <timothy> steven_-> is there an entry for redmond in the theme manager?
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> howdo I get permissions inkonq to execute a shell script
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> I get permission denied
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> It sis run onescript
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> didhttp://www.yahoo.com/
[05:47] <steven_> timothy->Yes, but I'm not trying to install redmond. I have a LCARS(StarTrek) splash screen installed and the theme that matches it wont show up.
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> oops how did i do thathttp://www.yahoo.com/
[05:48] <DaSkreech> Has someone installed dapper from CD?
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[05:48] <timothy> steven_-> I have been using linux for less than a month so I don't know that I am the one to ask ;)
[05:49] <kkathman> apokryphos:  sorry that didnt work either...I got it at least configured tho
[05:49] <steven_> timothy->Oh well thank you for getting the splash screen to work for me. I would have never found the Control Center.
[05:49] <apokryphos> kkathman: what do you mean it didn't work? :)
[05:49] <steven_> Anyone know how to install KDE themes?
[05:49] <timothy> steven_-> did you download a theme file?
[05:50] <apokryphos> steven_: have you even googled?
[05:50] <apokryphos> this place isn't a substitute for basic research
[05:50] <steven_> apokryphos->Google what? "How to install KDE themes"
[05:51] <steven_> timothy->Yeah, I downloaded it from kde-look.org
[05:51] <timothy> does anyone know where i can get automake1.6?
[05:51] <apokryphos> steven_: I'm sure you know how to use google :)
[05:51] <kkathman> apokryphos:  nm
[05:51] <steven_> apokryphos->I guess I'll try that.
[05:51] <timothy> kdevelop tells me
[05:51] <timothy> *** YOU'RE USING automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6.
[05:51] <timothy> *** KDE requires automake 1.6
[05:51] <word> if you want to increase the size of your linux partition do you have to increase the size of the swap?
[05:52] <apokryphos> kkathman: profile is midnightcommander btw, no hyphen. Perhaps that was causing the problem...
[05:52] <apokryphos> word: no
[05:52] <apokryphos> timothy: so get a newer version of automake
[05:53] <apokryphos> !find automake dapper
[05:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'automake' (4 shown): automake1.4 ;; automake1.7 ;; automake1.8 ;; automake1.9.
[05:53] <timothy> apokryphos: how? I cant get it through apt
[05:53] <apokryphos> timothy: fire up adept, search for automake
[05:54] <kkathman> apokryphos:  I tried both, they each come back with "Malformed URL"
[05:54] <apokryphos> kkathman: what is it you're entering *exactly*?
[05:54] <apokryphos> didn't kubuntu all muck up the idea of profiles from breezy+ anyhow?
[05:55] <apokryphos> I remember them implementing a different method. Hm.
[05:55] <timothy> apokryphos: will installing 1.7 work  would it hurt to try?
[05:55] <steven_> Ok, what format are theme files supposed to be in? "*.?"
[05:55] <apokryphos> timothy: anything 1.6+ will work, as the message says.
[05:55] <timothy> apokryphos: thankyou
[05:56] <kkathman> apokryphos:  well I've enter several variations:   konqueror --profile midnightcommander   to start with
[05:56] <apokryphos> kkathman: konqueror --profiles gives?
[05:56] <kkathman> apokryphos:  also konqueror --profile=midnightcommander
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> I am trying to run a script in konq and I get permission denied
[05:56] <apokryphos> no, that's not the syntax
[05:56] <DaSkreech> can someone try and apt-get amanda with Adept?
[05:57] <kkathman> apokryphos:  nothing
[05:57] <apokryphos> Jack_Sparrow: it can't execute it for the same reason you couldn't execute that script from anywhere then
[05:57] <apokryphos> kkathman: there you go, then :). No profiles available
[05:57] <kkathman> hmm
[05:57] <kkathman> odd
[05:57] <kkathman> thought Dapper came with profiles?
[05:57] <kkathman> very odd
[05:57] <apokryphos> kkathman: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> so how do I get permissions
[05:58] <apokryphos> Jack_Sparrow: change the permissions of the file, maybe ;-)
[05:58] <kkathman> konq nm... I can just build my own
[05:59] <apokryphos> :/
[05:59] <word> is there a linux utility to resize partitions....that's known to be safe?
[05:59] <apokryphos> no partitioning program is totally safe in my experience
[05:59] <apokryphos> gparted is pretty nice and friendly though
[05:59] <word> is that for gnome though?
[05:59] <DaSkreech> word: qtparted
[06:00] <apokryphos> gparted is a lot nicer
[06:00] <apokryphos> and, as any application, any gnome app works in kde and visa versa
[06:00] <word> dont you have to install a bunch of other packages for it to work on kde though?
[06:00] <apokryphos> probably not many, your choice. Try qtparted and stick with it if you can handle it, I guess.
[06:02] <DaSkreech> kkathman: Do you have universe enabled?
[06:02] <kkathman> DaSkreech:  yes
[06:02] <DaSkreech> can You use adept and install amanda=server for me?
[06:03] <kkathman> ??
[06:03] <DaSkreech> amanda-server
[06:03] <DaSkreech> sorry
[06:04] <kkathman> uhm.. I guess... what am I going to do with it?
[06:04] <word> qtparted crashed when i tried selecting a drive..
[06:04] <word> not exactly comforting..
[06:04] <DaSkreech> anytime I do it adept tells me to insert the Kubuntu Cd
[06:04] <apokryphos> if you don't want that then remove the cd as a source
[06:05] <DaSkreech> It is removed
[06:05] <apokryphos> then it won't ask for the CD, presuming you did an apt-get update
[06:05] <DaSkreech> I did
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Which is why I'm puzzled
[06:05] <apokryphos> doesn't sound like you have =)
[06:05] <Bilford> how do I make Konversation window transparent
[06:05] <Bilford> I did alt+f3 but nothings working
[06:06] <kkathman> DaSkreech:  let me give it a whirl
[06:07] <DaSkreech> hold on
[06:07] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:07] <DaSkreech> kkathman: I found another CDrom line in the comments not commented out
[06:08] <kkathman> DaSkreech:  no prob here...it comes up and prompts me to install here no CD asked
[06:08] <kkathman> ahh ok
[06:08] <kkathman> DaSkreech:  hmm I dont think I had 2
[06:09] <kkathman> but Im on Dapper right now tho
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Me either :)
[06:10] <DaSkreech> what is landscape?
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry for the stupid questions. I finally got it..
[06:13] <Bilford> I have a scripting question.  when I run a script from the terminal, it works, but when it's run from the cron job thing, it doesnt
[06:14] <Bilford> it runs some of it
[06:15] <Bilford> anyone?
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Does anyone still have the kalimoto ogg in examples?
[06:16] <Bilford> yes
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Bilford: Can I have it? :-)
[06:16] <timothy> grr now I get configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
[06:16] <Bilford> no
[06:16] <DaSkreech> mine got wiped with the last update
[06:17] <DaSkreech> :-(
[06:17] <kkathman> yah some things got whammied on my last updat too DaSkreech :)
[06:17] <DaSkreech> I liked that song
[06:18] <DaSkreech> kkathman: Whats Landscape?
[06:19] <kkathman> Landscape usually refers to the orientation of a screen
[06:19] <kkathman> like in a word processor
[06:19] <DaSkreech> kkathman: go to adept and uncheck not installed and upgradeable and then look for landscape
[06:19] <DaSkreech>  Or just fileter on landscape :-)
[06:19] <DaSkreech> filter
[06:19] <DaSkreech> it was in the last update
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Newly installed not updated
[06:22] <kkathman> DaSkreech:  cant tell
[06:22] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: hey. sup?
[06:22] <kkathman> looks like it might be an engine of some sort
[06:22] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Hi
[06:22] <kkathman> I looked in google also
[06:23] <DaSkreech> llike sabayon?
[06:23] <DShepherd> is that 'I like sabayon'?
[06:23] <DaSkreech> Well it's obviously new
[06:23] <DaSkreech> no llike sabayon
[06:23] <kkathman> DaSkreech:  I tried Googling and came up dry
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Probably is too new for Google to pick up
[06:24] <DaSkreech> :-D
[06:24] <kkathman> guess so
[06:24] <chx> Is it normal that X eats three _gigs_ of virt. RAM??  4676 tty7     RLs+  25:20  27879  1470 3138413 449384 43.4 /usr/bin/X
[06:24] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: there's a package on kde like sadayon?
[06:24] <Snake[Sleep] > kkathman: supp
[06:24] <DaSkreech> I don't know
[06:25] <DaSkreech> that's what I'm trying to fig
[06:25] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: When was your last update?
[06:25] <DaSkreech> since day?
[06:25] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: its been awhile. I am updating now.. should be finished in 5 minutes or so. why do you ask?
[06:25] <crimsun> chx: normal? depends on your use. it's certainly not out of the ordinary.
[06:26] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: When you are done check if yo uhave a package called landscape
[06:26] <chx> crimsun: really?? I never seen this before -- this began yesterday (I am running Dapper)
[06:26] <chx> crimsun: it seems that it's closely related to running Azureus
[06:27] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: ok..
[06:28] <crimsun> chx: seems normal, then...
[06:28] <crimsun> compare with the jvm processes' virt
[06:30] <chx> is my guess correct that even if after Azureus stopped this won't shrink?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> It will once Linux gets bored of it being there
[06:32] <paperangel> whats a good firewall
[06:32] <DaSkreech> firestarter
[06:33] <paperangel> hey skreech
[06:33] <paperangel> this is drogen
[06:33] <paperangel> i updated successfully
[06:33] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: my keyboard gave out on me lastnight. i had to get a new one
[06:33] <paperangel> but i fucked up a xorg.conf file
[06:33] <paperangel> so i had to format
[06:33] <DaSkreech> You bought a new one
[06:33] <DaSkreech> language
[06:33] <DaSkreech> G rated Channel
[06:33] <thompa> my xorg and nvidia were reall just messed up in dapper, but now works
[06:34] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: yeah i bought one
[06:34] <paperangel> oh sorry man
[06:34] <thompa> starts with mismatch error
[06:34] <paperangel> what card you got
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Cool
[06:34] <thompa> mine is a 660 i think,
[06:34] <thompa> the notebook has a sony with nvidia
[06:35] <thompa> where is system info
[06:35] <paperangel> mines a 420
[06:35] <thompa> this one glows blue
[06:35] <paperangel> ?
[06:36] <word> in gparted in order to resize a partition you have to unmount it..if i unmounted the current partition would my comp crash?
[06:36] <paperangel> !sources
[06:36] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:36] <l_r> is kubuntu planned for 1th june as ubuntu?
[06:36] <word> Yes, pretty sure.
[06:36] <thompa> the monitor is 1440x900
[06:37] <DaSkreech> can someone go to http://www.dreamfall.com/ in konqi?
[06:37] <thompa> im running kubuntu rc right now
[06:37] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: go to http://www.dreamfall.com/ in Firefox and click on media
[06:37] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: "Landscape is a web-based tool for managing Ubuntu systems." is that wat I am looking for
[06:37] <m5m> Can Ipsec be considered fairly strong security for an unencrypted wifi network?
[06:37] <DShepherd> ?
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Yup
[06:38] <thompa> i dont have an nvidia logo, which is strange
[06:38] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: i havent seen it yet. checking now
[06:38] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: is it supposed to be installed by default?
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Yup
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Just turned up today
[06:39] <DaSkreech> seems to have no files though
[06:39] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: is it in my PATH?
[06:39] <thompa> my nvida is screensavers are working above par though
[06:39] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: or ur path to be exact
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Is what in your path?
[06:40] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: the landscape program (command)
[06:40] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: where am i supposed to be looking
[06:40] <DaSkreech> It's not a program it's a dummy package
[06:40] <DaSkreech>  Like ubuntu-desktop
[06:41] <DaSkreech> But it has no files it seems
[06:41] <DShepherd> ok
[06:41] <thompa> edubuntu?
[06:42] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: oh.. yeah.. i have it installed. it says the package is empty though
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Right
[06:43] <DaSkreech> I'm trying to find out if anyone knows what that is
[06:43] <pppoe_dude> can things like the back/forward buttons in konqueror be modified?
[06:43] <DShepherd> ok
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Seems strange to start laying foundations for something a few days before shipping
[06:44] <pppoe_dude> as in different icons, etc...
[06:45] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: can adept tell when packages  have been installed.. as in the date when it was isntalled?
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Possibly give me asecond
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Though I'm not the best person to ask :-)
[06:46] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: yes
[06:46] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: you use kde?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: I mean I have to go research :-) I can't tell you off the top of my head
[06:46] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: you use adept?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> I'm not uber ultra geek noob yet :-)
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Just a +4 ultra gekk noob :-(
[06:47] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: ahh.. well care to research?
[06:47] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: But yes you can
[06:47] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: I answered you :)
[06:48] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: you did? what was the answer?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Look up
[06:49] <DShepherd> i did.. i seeth no answer..
[06:49] <james___> Dell (Broadcom) wireless card drivers.
[06:49] <DShepherd> you said to if you use kde
[06:49] <DShepherd> right?
[06:51] <DaSkreech> no
[06:51] <DaSkreech> I said yes to your first question
[06:51] <DaSkreech> then I said but yes you can again :)
[06:51] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Course on my screen my answer is above any of your questions except the first :)
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Yay net latency
[06:52] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: i guess.. what was your answer?
[06:53] <DShepherd> oh ok
[06:53] <DShepherd> kool
[06:53] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: so what date is on the lanscape-client package?
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Today
[06:54] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: ok
[06:56] <Shadow_mil> I am missing Xsession, though I have Xserver
[06:56] <Shadow_mil> I need help...
[06:56] <Shadow_mil> :(
[06:58] <DaSkreech> WINDOWS IS TERRIBLE!
[07:00] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: the door it not so bad
[07:00] <DaSkreech> lol
[07:00] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: its easier to fit thru at times
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Ahh God bless Dwight
[07:00] <DShepherd> thank you thank u very much
[07:01] <thompa> windus sucks
[07:02] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: what's with the link you sent?
[07:02] <DaSkreech> When?
[07:02] <orient2000> windows can play mp3 and dvd's
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Dreamfall?
[07:03] <DShepherd> yes
[07:03] <DaSkreech> can You get the 4 wallpapers for me? :-)
[07:03] <thompa> !realplayer
[07:03] <ubotu> it has been said that realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:03] <uscg_corey> anyone here familiar w/ Konversation?
[07:03] <thompa> in windows i have to remove those things first
[07:03] <DaSkreech> uscg_corey: No but what do you need to know?
[07:04] <uscg_corey> well i want some commands to run after i connect to a server, but the connect commands in konversation execute while its connecting which wont work..was wondering how i can make 2 or 3 commands run when im connected to server automatically
[07:04] <DShepherd> hehe
[07:04] <DShepherd> that was pasted.. i bet it was
[07:04] <thompa> try installing adobe in windows
[07:05] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: they ugly, imho
[07:05] <DaSkreech> I can't see them :-)
[07:05] <DaSkreech> Thats why I wanted to find some way to grab them
[07:06] <DaSkreech> if you just hack the JS behind the flash and give me the root folder I can find my way into the server myself :-)
[07:06] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: how come you cant see them?
[07:07] <DaSkreech> Well konqi is loading the page off the edge of the browser and Firefox blinks then resets the page
[07:08] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:09] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: when you click to download the page?
[07:09] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[07:10] <thompa> the only thing i have to install is realplayer in linux
[07:10] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: well i have the same difficulty here
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Ah
[07:11] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: i have 13 new updates :-)
[07:11] <thompa> there are 10 times more word processors and programs that just work in linux
[07:11] <DaSkreech> I have like 4
[07:11] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:11] <DShepherd> thompa: yeah ubuntu is kool like that
[07:12] <thompa> i like koffice best
[07:13] <DShepherd> http://www.osalt.com/ <-- this is an awesome site skreech. DaSkreech
[07:13] <khaije> anyone know if X-forwarding requires any particular packages? I've had a heck of a time trying to figure why mine won't work
[07:13] <thompa> but openoffice does nice pdfs
[07:13] <thompa> symantic is great, he he
[07:14] <thompa> for the masses, keep them in line
[07:15] <DaSkreech> OS-alt
[07:15] <DaSkreech> not O! Salt :)
[07:15] <thompa> realplayer is better if you just go to realone.com
[07:15] <thompa> it takes you to their linux page
[07:16] <DaSkreech> What happened to helix?
[07:16] <cheerutah> can someone help me set up a wireless card
[07:16] <thompa> its still there, same thing
[07:17] <DaSkreech> lo
[07:17] <cheerutah> can anyone help me
[07:17] <amorphis> lo
[07:18] <thompa> the ubuntu cd has abiword on it for windows
[07:18] <thompa> just ask
[07:18] <thompa> dont tell
[07:19] <thompa> i could only get realplayer to play bbc radio
[07:20] <DaSkreech> You need more? :-)
[07:20] <thompa> i am using konversation in kubuntu dapper
[07:21] <thompa> first i installed ubuntu rc, then konversation, and then kubuntu.
[07:22] <DaSkreech> cheerutah: Have you checked the wiki?
[07:22] <amorphis> grrrrrrrrrrrr aaaaaaaaarh, im installing M$ windows on laptop and it crashes on installation ... how bad can u be
[07:24] <thompa> on the real.one web site they left out sudo
[07:24] <Quintok> well, atleast you know where your problem is amorphis
[07:26] <cheerutah> i have a VERIZON wireless card how do i set it up
[07:26] <cheerutah> no how do i do that
[07:27] <thompa> is that the aircard?
[07:28] <cheerutah> yeah
[07:28] <chavo> cheerutah, I had it running once and it wasn't easy
[07:28] <cheerutah> kyocera kpc650
[07:29] <chavo> Oh I have the 5220 ev-do
[07:29] <cheerutah> i don't know hw to even set up the wireless card that is built into my laptop
[07:30] <cheerutah> can someone remote my laptop and set it up
[07:30] <thompa> whats the support specs say. no linux support?
[07:30] <thompa> he
[07:31] <cheerutah> no clue what your asking
[07:31] <thompa> how are you connected now on the internet?
[07:32] <cheerutah> can you help
[07:32] <thompa> cable
[07:32] <cheerutah> whats wiki
[07:32] <thompa> no i im too tired sorry
[07:32] <amorphis> wiki = encyclopedia
[07:33] <amorphis> some sort of webpage where ppl write down things that can help u
[07:33] <thompa> is that in utah
[07:33] <cheerutah> yeah
[07:33] <thompa> good luck anyway..
[07:33] <thompa> call their tech support
[07:34] <thompa> tell them its in windows
[07:34] <thompa> play stupid
[07:34] <cheerutah> lol
[07:34] <amorphis> cheerutah: wless and linux is not goof combination :s ... yet
[07:34] <amorphis> good*
[07:35] <cheerutah> my roommate got it to work but hes not here to ask
[07:35] <chavo> I have a linksys wireless card for my laptop and it works with kubuntu out of the box
[07:36] <nixternal> 98% of the wireless products will work in linux
[07:36] <thompa> the wireless in dapper is the best ive ever seen
[07:36] <thompa> ipw2200 is working real well
[07:36] <nixternal> linux and wireless is the best combination you can have...safer
[07:37] <thompa> just some of the distros leave it out
[07:37] <cheerutah> oh
[07:40] <thompa> the main problem is that windows is pre-installed, so they are biased
[07:41] <AdmiralFTW> thompa: its a user bias though
[07:43] <thompa> if you dont have a second option anyway
[07:46] <rosemary> hi I have d/l 6.06 and tried apt-get install firefox but didn't install - is firefox called something else in kubuntu?  Tried mozilla-firefox also
[07:47] <thompa> mozilla-firefox
[07:47] <thompa> nevermind
[07:47] <thompa> did you try adept?
[07:48] <rosemary> yes - it's not listed
[07:49] <thompa> did you search keyword firefox?
[07:49] <PyroMithrandir> maybe it's in another repo
[07:49] <rosemary> Package mozilla-firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:49] <rosemary> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:49] <rosemary> is only available from another source
[07:49] <AdmiralFTW> rosemary: what are you trying to do
[07:50] <rosemary> install firefox browser
[07:50] <thompa> firefox is in the main pool
[07:50] <thompa> im running kubuntu
[07:50] <AdmiralFTW> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure firefox
[07:51] <rosemary> AdmiralFTW: I did "sudo apt-get install firefox" and mozilla-firefox
[07:51] <AdmiralFTW> err i think there is a space between dpkg and the hyphen
[07:54] <rosemary> AdmiralFTW: that gives me what looks like a man page about dphg
[07:54] <rosemary> dpkg!
[07:55] <thompa> also konqueror should work on everything
[07:56] <rosemary> I happen to like firefox :-)
[07:56] <thompa> ubuntu uses it
[07:56] <rosemary> and thought it was available for 6.06
[07:56] <PyroMithrandir> it is available for 6.06
[07:56] <thompa> konqueror is also a file browser
[07:57] <AdmiralFTW> thompa: its many things
[07:57] <AdmiralFTW> rosemary: hmm
[07:57] <chavo> konqueror is actually not that much
[07:57] <thompa> i use konqueror with fish command
[07:57] <chavo> it's just a container for many things
[07:57] <AdmiralFTW> have you tried installing it using Automatix
[07:57] <chavo> yes fish rocks
[07:58] <AdmiralFTW> also what version of Ubuntu
[07:58] <PyroMithrandir> what's fish?
[07:58] <amorphis> whats the name of the desktop menu ... the one where u can view u pc stats and stuff
[07:58] <rosemary> AdmiralFTW: I'm taking another look at add/remove programmes
[07:58] <chavo> fish is secure shell connection
[07:58] <chavo> it can use ssh or sftp
[07:58] <PyroMithrandir> rosemary, look at adept rather than add/remove programs
[07:59] <rramos> or synaptic
[07:59] <chavo> you can use it from open/save dialogs too
[07:59] <rosemary> PyroMithrandir: okay
[07:59] <thompa> i use kinfocenter
[07:59] <rramos> hi everyone
[07:59] <Zaire> wow looks lively in here tonight lol
[07:59] <chavo> hi
[08:00] <PyroMithrandir> 'lo
[08:00] <rramos> hi
[08:00] <chavo> no it's lively this morning :P
[08:00] <thompa> the opengl section in kinfocenter was real good
[08:00] <AdmiralFTW> amorphis: superkaramba?
[08:00] <Zaire> night where I am lol
[08:00] <amorphis> thompa: yes but there is some sort of transparant version
[08:00] <pagey> unable to install kuickshow
[08:00] <pagey> any help guys
[08:00] <pagey> ?
[08:00] <AdmiralFTW> amorphis: yea superkaramba
[08:01] <rramos> does someone knows if ubuntu supports GLX?
[08:01] <chavo> amorphis, superkaramba puts widgets on your desktop
[08:01] <amorphis> ty
[08:01] <chavo> rramos, waht video card?
[08:01] <rramos> ati radeon x600 pro guru
[08:01] <Zaire> yeps it supports glx just sketchy with nvidia's
[08:01] <rramos> no ati?
[08:02] <chavo> yes although more people have trouble with ati's drivers than nvidiaas
[08:02] <Zaire> lol not from where Im sitting lol
[08:02] <rramos> y used that one that is live cd and works perfectly , but i want intall version
[08:02] <chavo> oh you mean XGL?
[08:03] <chavo> yeah I'm running it
[08:03] <chavo> you haven't installed kubuntu yet?
[08:03] <rramos> yes i am on a kubuntu
[08:03] <rramos> kubuntu at work an at home ubuntu
[08:04] <chavo> what version did you install?
[08:04] <rramos> ubuntu 5.10
[08:04] <rramos> kubuntu 6
[08:04] <chavo> ok it's much easier to get running on 6.06
[08:04] <rramos> :D
[08:04] <pagey> hello all
[08:04] <chavo> here's a bunch of links to get you started http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
[08:05] <pagey> I am not able to install kuickshow
[08:05] <rramos> OHH TAHNK YOU
[08:05] <chavo> I have nvidia card and it was easy
[08:05] <pagey> what is another good pic viewer?
[08:05] <chavo> pagey, try gwenview] 
[08:05] <pagey> cheers
[08:05] <PyroMithrandir> or kview if you don't want to get all the gnome stuff
[08:05] <AdmiralFTW> pagey: thats what i use
[08:06] <rramos> you  know also an istallation that comes with glx?
[08:06] <chavo> it's nice and digikam if you're taking a lot of pictures
[08:06] <pagey> all good
[08:06] <chavo> rramos, I don't think any thing comes with it by default
[08:06] <pagey> just completed ....,,,cheers
[08:07] <rramos> oks
[08:07] <rramos> :D
[08:07] <johannes__> hi room! one thing how could i configure kopete 0.12 beta 2 that it opens op with certain channels already opened at start?
[08:07] <chavo> rramos,  do you have the ati 3d drivers set up already?
[08:08] <rramos> mm that pc is on windows but I want it on linux with glx
[08:08] <rramos> iv tested wid a ubuntu glx live
[08:10] <AdmiralFTW> PyroMithrandir: yea i try to stay away from that Gnome stuff
[08:11] <chavo> gwenview is a KDE app
[08:11] <PyroMithrandir> oh, really?
[08:11] <PyroMithrandir> it starts with a g, so I figured, you know...
[08:11] <chavo> true lol
[08:12] <chavo> no it's kde, try it out if you haven't
[08:12] <PyroMithrandir> oh, no, it's what I use
[08:12] <chavo> ok
[08:12] <PyroMithrandir> I just have kde and gnome installed, so I didn't know which it was from
[08:12] <johannes__> how could i configure kopete 0.12 beta 2 that it opens op with certain channels already opened at start?
[08:12] <chavo> yeah with the gtk-qt engine gnome apps look like kde anyway
[08:13] <rosemary> AdmiralFTW: it was the repsoitories - were disabled
[08:16] <AdmiralFTW> yea thats what i was thinking
[08:16] <rramos> thank you chavo , ill see it at work tomorrow
[08:16] <chavo> rramos, np
[08:22] <rosemary> AdmiralFTW: should have remembered to do that first - while since I tried kubuntu
[08:24] <vega-> anyone know if this is going to be fixed in kubuntu dapper: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gamin/+bug/36581
[08:28] <rosemary> if I set up and add a user would that person also have sudo priviledges?
[08:28] <noiesmo> only first user added at install by defult
[08:28] <Hobbsee> rosemary: no, you have to add them to sudoers..
[08:29] <rosemary> Hobbsee: okay so that provides some security
[08:29] <Hobbsee> yes
[08:29] <rosemary> although prevents them from learning I guess
[08:30] <rosemary> need to think about it
[08:30] <Hobbsee> rosemary: just a FYI - they can get in by going into recovery mode, and then they get full root access, from grub.
[08:30] <crimsun> being added to %admin is a learning step.
[08:30] <rosemary> Hobbsee: thinking of kubuntu for my sister who is a win 98 user, but she is smart so would learn
[08:31] <kkathman> Hey Hobbsee :)
[08:31] <Hobbsee> rosemary: ah ok - is this a computer you share, or her own one?
[08:31] <Hobbsee> hi kkathman
[08:31] <rosemary> guess I could give her this old box to play about and advise her to use sudo and learn
[08:32] <Hobbsee> rosemary: that's probably a good idea :P
[08:32] <rosemary> Hobbsee: it will be only for her use - I actually run PCLos on my machine
[08:32] <AdmiralFTW> rosemary: she might learn best just having to use Linux
[08:32] <Hobbsee> rosemary: give her sudo access, links to the howtos, and the install cds...how old's your sister?
[08:32] <AdmiralFTW> when my Windows Xp install broke, i switched my main comp to all Linux and learned from there
[08:32] <Zaire> best way to go
[08:33] <rosemary> tried kubuntu but after having the root/user thing drummed into me felt uncomfortable with kubuntu's way of using sudo
[08:33] <Hobbsee> ah yes
[08:33] <rosemary> Hobbsee: she's 40 odd, but I started using linux at 50 odd, so she'll manage
[08:33] <Hobbsee> gotta be careful of where you run rm -rf * from...
[08:33] <Hobbsee> rosemary: hehe
[08:33] <noiesmo> sudo can be painfull when you've just finished editing a file and remember you didn't sudo first
[08:33] <Hobbsee> cool
[08:34] <Zaire> umm quick question is it possible to get the updated KDE for redhat 9?
[08:34] <rosemary> Hobbsee: guess I'll never run that command
[08:34] <Hobbsee> rosemary: well, it removes everything - so as long as you're running it in the direction that you want...
[08:34] <rosemary> I like what I see in kubuntu so maybe give it a better and more thorough try this time
[08:34] <Hobbsee> er, directory
[08:35] <noiesmo> Zaire, it'd be fun sorting out all the dependancies but hay probably possible
[08:35] <rosemary> Hobbsee: yes - been warned about it before :-)
[08:35] <Zaire> yea issues prob for sure lol Im just running RH9 until I get my ATI card
[08:35] <Hobbsee> rosemary: nothing's stopping you from using sudo -s, i fyou're going around and installing ndiswrapper or something, which involves a lot of sudo, it's easier to sudo -s, then run the commands - and then exit afterwards
[08:36] <Hobbsee> rosemary: in my view, it's quicker - run sudo  -s, do what you want to do, hit exit - saves you having to log otu, and back in again, if you dont want to be root
[08:36] <rosemary> Hobbsee: my PC has on board graphics - when I upgrade I think I'll have a go at building, but that's a while off
[08:36] <Hobbsee> ooh fun :)
[08:36] <Hobbsee> rosemary: how much ram do you have noe?
[08:37] <Hobbsee> *now?
[08:37] <rosemary> never done it before - but be good to learn how
[08:37] <Hobbsee> rosemary: i have a link, do tell when you want it...
[08:37] <Hobbsee> actually, building things doesnt really require that much sudo - well, installing the deb, and some of pbuilder...
[08:38] <rosemary> 512 on main box, 256 on this one with kubuntu, but it's an old box which I've had trouble getting things to go - kubuntu gets a big tick for installing and working quite fast
[08:38] <rosemary> Hobbsee: link for ?
[08:38] <Hobbsee> building things
[08:38] <Hobbsee> ah yes...that's not terribly nice to build on...
[08:39] <Zaire> ummm where can I get a packaged file of KDE or is it even possible?
[08:39] <rosemary> okay that'd be good - hmm this box is slow and for some reason my connection is down on main box, need link there
[08:39] <Hobbsee> it'd be fast with xfce, too...
[08:39] <Hobbsee> a lighter window manager...
[08:40] <rosemary> Hobbsee: I like xfce though haven't used it for a while
[08:40] <rosemary> couldn't get it going properly in pclos so went back to kde
[08:40] <Hobbsee> ah okay
[08:41] <Hobbsee> i've tried it here - it flew...but i didnt find it very obvious, and this was before all the kde dpi was set to match gnome and xfce's, so all the fonts were weirdly sized...
[08:42] <rosemary> I used it for ages in mandriva 2005 before I went to pclos - was very fast as you say, took a while to get used to
[08:43] <rosemary> might try it on this old box - but only 3,2G hard drive so might be getting close to capacity after installing firefox and xchat
[08:44] <rosemary> could get rid of xchat though as this kconversation seems okay
[08:46] <Hobbsee> ouch
[08:46] <Hobbsee> yes, for most things it is.
[08:48] <johannes__> how could i configure kopete that it opens op with certain channels already opened at start?
[08:49] <Hobbsee> johannes__: irc channels?
[08:49] <johannes__> yes
[08:49] <johannes__> Hobbsee yes
[08:49] <rosemary> Hobbsee: could I have that link for building things and I'll wirte it down long hand - thanks
[08:50] <Hobbsee> johannes__: edit the account, advanced, see the "Run the following commands on connect" and add /j #channelname
[08:50] <Hobbsee> i expect
[08:50] <Hobbsee> rosemary: should be in http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu
[08:50] <Hobbsee> er
[08:50] <Hobbsee> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation
[08:51] <johannes__> Hobbsee /j instead of join?
[08:51] <Hobbsee> johannes__: both work
[08:51] <Hobbsee> johannes__: used konversation before?  that's a more dedicated IRC client..
[08:51] <rosemary> oops time - gotta go, back laterthanks Hobbseecatch you again sometime
[08:51] <rosemary> bye all
[08:51] <Hobbsee> cya
[08:52] <Zaire> damn its impossible to find a single package containing kde for RH9 :S
[08:53] <johannes__> Hobbsee  i used xchat, but i have often kopete open when i want to chat in msn and in irc, its more handy then
[08:53] <Hobbsee> ah okay
[08:54] <_nano_> where can i see the release notes of ubuntu repository upgrades ? like where can i see the  changes between xorg version 7.0.0-0ubuntu44 and 7.0.0-0ubuntu45?
[08:55] <Hobbsee> _nano_: aptitude changelog packagename, or just get the source, and look in debian/changelog
[08:56] <_nano_> Hobbsee: thanks ..lemme try that
[08:56] <Hobbsee> _nano_: there are usually no "release notes" as such
[08:56] <Zaire> is there any way to get kde 3.5 for redhat9 being that its outdated more or less?
[08:56] <Hobbsee> the most detailed stuff's in the changelog - and maybe some is listed on launchpad
[08:56] <Hobbsee> Zaire: ask that in #redhat or something.
[08:57] <_nano_> Hobbsee: launchpad?
[08:57] <_nano_> !launchpad
[08:57] <ubotu> launchpad is probably a collection of services for projects in the open source universe - https://launchpad.net/
[08:57] <Zaire> redhat 9 is unsupported has been for about 2 years at the lest unfortunately I was just wondering if its possible for me to find a packaged source file that I could compile and install
[08:58] <Zaire> srry to go kinda off topic os wise but rh is about the only version save mandriva that runs stable for me
[08:59] <Hobbsee> Zaire: oh, sources?  kde.org
[09:00] <Zaire> I know the site and all but there is multiple sources on there and I can't tell which is which :S
[09:00] <word> whats the command to copy?
[09:00] <_nano_> Hobbsee: check https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server
[09:00] <_nano_> Hobbsee: there's no mention of the version that's there in the repos
[09:00] <_nano_> :-s
[09:01] <noiesmo> word, cp
[09:01] <word> thanks
[09:02] <Hobbsee> _nano_: which source did you want?  xserver-xorg?
[09:03] <_nano_> Hobbsee: yeah i found that package to be upgradable.. i just wanted to make sure..coz i'm scared of xserver config changes..had pretty bad experiences :P
[09:03] <Hobbsee> _nano_: breezy or dapper?
[09:03] <_nano_> Hobbsee: dapper
[09:03] <Zaire> one thing I was looking for was preferably a single archived source file for kde but get the feeling that Im not likely to get one :S
[09:03] <Hobbsee> _nano_: what'd you say the version was, again?
[09:04] <_nano_> 7.0.0-0ubuntu44
[09:04] <Hobbsee> Zaire: i'd have no idea - i'd imagine you'd need the sources, and to compile them yourself, or find some repo somewhere.
[09:04] <Zaire> thx anyway i'll see what I can find
[09:04] <Hobbsee> _nano_: odd.  xserver-xorg shows me Version: 7.0.0-0ubuntu15
[09:04] <Hobbsee> _nano_: they wont have broken X this late though
[09:05] <_nano_> Hobbsee: try reloading your synaptic?
[09:06] <_nano_> Hobbsee: i have multiverse and universe repos enabled as well
[09:06] <Hobbsee> same version.  weird.
[09:06] <Hobbsee> yep
[09:06] <imbrandon_> heya Hobbsee ;)
[09:06] <_nano_> Hobbsee: i'm on mepis right now..should that matter?
[09:06] <_ODIN1> odin1|home
[09:06] <_nano_> Hobbsee: i mean seeing different versions that is
[09:06] <Hobbsee> _nano_: likely, yes.
[09:06] <Hobbsee> hi imbrandon_
[09:06] <_nano_> Hobbsee: but the repos are same
[09:06] <Hobbsee> hmmm...okay...
[09:07] <_nano_> lol
[09:07] <Hobbsee> _nano_: what was the name of the packages you were looking at?
[09:07] <nixternal> Hobbsee: well hello there
[09:07] <_nano_> Hobbsee: xserver-xorg
[09:07] <Hobbsee> hi  nixternal
[09:07] <Hobbsee> _nano_: hmm...okay...
[09:08] <Hobbsee> Filename: pool/main/x/xorg/xserver-xorg_7.0.0-0ubuntu15_all.deb
[09:08] <Hobbsee> odd
[09:08] <imbrandon_> _nano_: the repos arent EXACTLY the same for mepis , they just use dapper "also"
[09:09] <Hobbsee> oh dear.  to me, that spells disaster.  weird.
[09:09] <_nano_> imbrandon_: but the package version name contains ubuntu
[09:09] <imbrandon_> Hobbsee: yes i think so too ;)
[09:09] <nixternal> imbrandon_: when did mepis start doing that?
[09:10] <imbrandon_> _nano_: that dosent mean a whole lot, i can make a package from SuSE say ubuntu ;)
[09:10] <_nano_> nixternal: like a 2 months ago..
[09:10] <nixternal> i read they were heading kubuntu..but when i used it, the repositories were still mepis
[09:10] <_nano_> Hobbsee: but even your version doesn't find mention in lanchpad
[09:10] <nixternal> really...i was using simply 2 months ago on my laptop and had mepis repositories
[09:10] <imbrandon_> nixternal: they have a mix of both
[09:10] <_nano_> nixternal: you would have to install the beta version to do that...
[09:11] <imbrandon_> mepis == nightmare actualy ;)
[09:11] <nixternal> ya..you know what i do remember reading that...i said forget mepis because mepislovers.org wasn't love at all...not like ubuntu/kubuntu was
[09:12] <nixternal> mepis isn't all that bad...i didn't have much trouble with it...but their community wasn't all that great...i just hope some of their hotheads don't head this way truthfully...
[09:12] <nixternal> lol
[09:12] <imbrandon_> hahaha
[09:12] <nixternal> i had to do it man
[09:12] <nixternal> pwn you at your own game
[09:12] <_nano_> imbrandon_: well...yeah true kubuntu/ubuntu have a pretty nice loving caring community :D ..but mepis isn't that bad as well :)
[09:13] <nixternal> mepis artwork is better ;)
[09:13] <_nano_> imbrandon_: but let's not digress...back to package versioning!!
[09:13] <sheldonc> #kubuntu is just an alias for #kde-offtopic  :)
[09:13] <nixternal> lol
[09:13] <imbrandon_> _nano_: its not a bad os but when you mix and match its bad, ie debian isnt bad and ubuntu isnt bad but ubuntu with debian unstale repos is bad ;) see what i mean  ?
[09:14] <_nano_> imbrandon_: yea...but that risk is possible in any distro
[09:14] <imbrandon_> _nano_: even more when its done by default like mepis ;)
[09:15] <_nano_> imbrandon_: hmm...but i still think mepis doesn't rename ubuntu package versions ...
[09:16] <imbrandon_> why not ubuntu renames debian versions
[09:16] <riri> hi
[09:16] <imbrandon_> when things are added / changed
[09:16] <_nano_> imbrandon_: they do..but they don't name it debian-x-x-x
[09:17] <imbrandon_> depends, if its an upstream change yes they do
[09:17] <_nano_> what's an upstream change?
[09:17] <imbrandon_> it all depends on mepis packaging specs
[09:17] <Hobbsee> do they sync from us, or from debian?
[09:17] <_nano_> Hobbsee: they used to sync from debian..now the sync from ubuntu
[09:17] <_nano_> *they
[09:18] <Hobbsee> ah okay
[09:18] <imbrandon_> Hobbsee: they dont sync from us the run their own repos for their changed packages and use our repos directly for the otherss
[09:18] <imbrandon_> no syncing
[09:19] <imbrandon_> brb
[09:19] <_nano_> imbrandon_: ok let's assume I am using kubuntu...but still the question of finding changelogs retains its merit
[09:21] <Hobbsee> _nano_: aptitude changelog packagename, or just get the source, and look in debian/changelog
[09:23] <riri> is there an easy and automatic way to add flash java ?
[09:23] <imbrandon> ahh much better
[09:23] <imbrandon> !restricted
[09:23] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:23] <riri> i went on ubuntu after a search but most of the multiverse file don't work
[09:24] <imbrandon> sudo apt-get install sun-java-jre
[09:24] <riri> isn't it written somewhere ?
[09:24] <imbrandon> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[09:24] <riri> thanks
[09:24] <imbrandon> the senond one
[09:24] <riri> yes
[09:25] <riri> i guessed as it's the j version
[09:25] <riri> im: impossible to find the packet
[09:25] <imbrandon> you will need to "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and "sudo update-alternatives --config jar" also when done
[09:26] <imbrandon> riri, then you dont have universe and multivers enabled correctly
[09:26] <riri> ok
[09:26] <riri> where is the correct setting ?
[09:26] <riri> i look on ub and kub
[09:26] <imbrandon> make your sources.list look like this http://ubuntustuff.sytes.net/sources.list
[09:27] <riri> ok
[09:27] <imbrandon> by "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:27] <_nano_> Hobbsee, imbrandon: check https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+package/xserver-xorg
[09:27] <jogan> gola a todos
[09:27] <imbrandon> _nano_, what about it ?
[09:27] <Hobbsee> hmmm...interesting
[09:28] <_nano_> it has  xserver-xorg 7.0.0-0ubuntu45
[09:28] <jogan> como hago para saber en que hda esta mi guindows?
[09:28] <_nano_> imbrandon: so it's not a package renaming issue
[09:28] <PyroMithrandir> !es
[09:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:28] <Hobbsee> _nano_: very weird.
[09:28] <imbrandon> ok i'm missing something, all i was saying is mepis is not PURE kubuntu
[09:29] <_nano_> imbrandon: it's not a mepis thingy..that's for sure
[09:29] <_nano_> Hobbsee: yeah i know
[09:29] <imbrandon> whats the problem ? i came in late
[09:29] <_nano_> imbrandon: hobbsee was getting ubuntu15 as the latest version...even after reloading...although the latest version is ubuntu45
[09:31] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, what does sudo apt-cache showpkg xserver-xorg show  as the version on your ?
[09:31] <riri> im: i use kwrite
[09:31] <riri> nano is old unix crap
[09:31] <riri> lol
[09:31] <_nano_> x-(
[09:31] <riri> like me :)
[09:31] <imbrandon> !language
[09:31] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[09:31] <imbrandon> ;)
[09:31] <_nano_> :D
[09:31] <Hobbsee> hmmm...okay...
[09:32] <_nano_> I take offence riri x-(
[09:32] <riri> i didn't mean nano man
[09:32] <riri> i didn't mean you
[09:32] <_nano_> lol i'm just kidding :P
[09:32] <imbrandon> i meant your use of the word "cr*p"
[09:32] <riri> but the nano editor ! lol
[09:32] <Hobbsee> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/746301
[09:32] <riri> ok
[09:32] <riri> i am french
[09:32] <_nano_> riri: heh
[09:32] <word> meh stop saying word ;p
[09:32] <riri> crap means nothing to me
[09:32] <Hobbsee> nano's great, dont knock it :P
[09:33] <riri> well
[09:33] <imbrandon> riri, in english its not nice to say in public ;)
[09:33] <riri> if you would have learn it like i did
[09:33] <_nano_> Hobbsee: you mean they are the same thing?
[09:33] <riri> ok ...my deep apologize
[09:33] <Hobbsee> _nano_: i've got no idea why my apt-cache search is showing differently - looks like mine got updated
[09:33] <imbrandon> riri, i understand english is not your native toung thats why i told you ;)
[09:34] <riri> i prefer k... editor :) lol
[09:34] <imbrandon> no no kate is fine , just not "crap"
[09:34] <imbrandon> kate and kwrite etc etc etc
[09:34] <_nano_> Hobbsee: but i see no reason why kubuntu and ubuntu would have different version names for the same thingy
[09:34] <riri> ok
[09:35] <imbrandon> riri, anyhow use "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:35] <riri> yes thanks
[09:35] <imbrandon> to do the same thing with kate
[09:35] <Hobbsee> _nano_: they cant do.
[09:35] <riri> i needed a long time to understand why kate alone didn't work ... i am not used to sudo
[09:35] <riri> lol
[09:35] <imbrandon> nano kubuntu and ubuntu are exactly the same version
[09:36] <_nano_> Hobbsee: what a mystery! lol
[09:36] <Hobbsee> very
[09:36] <_nano_> imbrandon: yeah that's what i guessed...but do click on Hobbsee's link
[09:36] <riri> and gedit too..
[09:36] <Hobbsee> looks like the earlier one was off the cd, then the apt-cache show hasnt upgraded it
[09:36] <imbrandon> riri, becouse of the file being opened needed to have sudo privlages
[09:37] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, try "sudo apt-get clean" and the apt-get update and then relook at the cache
[09:37] <prashantk76> hi i want to change xfac-desktop to k-desktop in Xubuntu, how i can do that ?
[09:37] <_nano_> prashantk76: apt-get install kde-desktop ?
[09:37] <imbrandon> !+kubuntu-desktop
[09:37] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop is probably type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" without the quotes in a terminal to install Kubuntu along side Ubuntu
[09:37] <Hobbsee> bah, oh well
[09:38] <_nano_> oops kubuntu-desktop :P
[09:38] <prashantk76> what is apt-get ?
[09:38] <_nano_> !apt
[09:38] <ubotu> somebody said apt was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[09:38] <prashantk76> sorry i am new to linux
[09:38] <imbrandon> its the package manager for *ubuntu
[09:38] <riri> fortunatly this irc is very good
[09:39] <riri> thanks chaps..
[09:39] <imbrandon> np;)
[09:39] <_nano_> riri: it's the people..not irc :P
[09:39] <imbrandon> have fun riri
[09:39] <riri> yes
[09:39] <riri> true
[09:39] <riri> thanks to the people then :)
[09:40] <_nano_> imbrandon: what does your synaptic tell about the xorg version?
[09:40] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: you sure?
[09:40] <riri> i just didn't solve my son 's vmware problem
[09:40] <imbrandon> _nano_, i dont use synaptic but i can look in adept in just a sec, hold on
[09:40] <_nano_> imbrandon: k
[09:40] <riri> i guess it's more a rights problem
[09:40] <Zaire> I got a question do kubuntu dapper or any of the other distros of ubuntu have and issue with amd hyper transport?
[09:40] <_nano_> riri: teach your son to solve his own problems :P
[09:41] <imbrandon> Zaire, not that i'm aware of , that would have to do with the kernel and as far as i know everything is a-ok
[09:41] <Zaire> hmmm just thought I would ask cause my sempron64 has 800Mhz hyper transport
[09:42] <riri> well it's not it's own problem
[09:42] <riri> maybe it's a bug in kub ???
[09:42] <riri> i never meet this before
[09:42] <riri> not being able to copy a file
[09:43] <riri> and a not solve problem is always a bad hidden surprise one day or the other ..
[09:43] <prashantk76> i was trying apt-get install kde-desktop but it gave me admin error
[09:44] <_nano_> prashantk76: it's sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:44] <_nano_> prashantk76: don't forget the sudo
[09:44] <prashantk76> ok thanks but what is sudo means
[09:44] <imbrandon> _nano_, here is my adept info for xorg ....... http://imbrandon.sytes.net/misc/adept.png
[09:44] <_nano_> prashantk76: execute as root
[09:44] <imbrandon> prashantk76, it means run whatever with super user privligaes
[09:45] <prashantk76> ok cool thanks
[09:45] <_nano_> imbrandon: checking
[09:45] <prashantk76> its working
[09:45] <_nano_> imbrandon: wow your screen has pretty high resolution :)
[09:46] <imbrandon> heh
[09:46] <_nano_> imbrandon: so your version is showing same as mine..ubuntu45
[09:46] <_nano_> i mean upgradable version
[09:47] <imbrandon> no thats what i have installed
[09:47] <_nano_> imbrandon: meaning?
[09:47] <imbrandon> meaning thats what is running
[09:47] <_nano_> imbrandon: oh yea in my case it's upgradable i mean :P
[09:47] <_nano_> my bad :P
[09:47] <imbrandon> i still fail to see your problem ?
[09:48] <_nano_> imbrandon: it wasn't a problem, but a query..on how to see the changelogs :P
[09:48] <_nano_> imbrandon: and then we had a problem because Hobbsee wasn't seeing the same upgradable version
[09:48] <riri> thanks im j2 is downloading
[09:48] <imbrandon> ohh ;)
[09:49] <riri> i guess for flash it's the same ?
[09:49] <_nano_> imbrandon: and that started the spine-chilling mystery
[09:49] <imbrandon> riri, if you type im then hit the "tab" key it will say my name ;)
[09:49] <riri> just change the name ?
[09:49] <_nano_> imbrandon: which is yet to be solved :P
[09:49] <imbrandon> riri, flash is "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[09:50] <riri> ok
[09:50] <imbrandon> riri, try the tab thing ;)
[09:50] <riri> i note all this in a file.. lol
[09:50] <riri> tab thing ??
[09:50] <imbrandon> riri, if you type im then hit the "tab" key it will say my name ;)
[09:50] <riri> lol
[09:50] <riri> sorry
[09:50] <prashantk76> i have one more question how i can watch movies on tv screen from laptop (i have video out option "Fn+F5")
[09:50] <imbrandon> riri,  also all this is on a webpage at http://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats
[09:50] <_nano_> imbrandon: itunes??? how ??
[09:51] <riri> is it your real name ?
[09:51] <imbrandon> same way as photoshop ;)
[09:51] <_nano_> imbrandon: wine?
[09:51] <imbrandon> yes ;)
[09:51] <riri> ok
[09:51] <_nano_> imbrandon: oh darn :P
[09:52] <imbrandon> prashantk76, just use your tv out option while playing a movie ;)
[09:52] <prashantk76> i all ready tried that but not working
[09:53] <imbrandon> whats not working about it? need a tad more info bro, do you get an error ? etc
[09:53] <prashantk76> i mean when ever i press Fn +F5 there is no display on laptop and tv
[09:54] <prashantk76> normaly when u press fn+f5 display tranfer to tv
[09:55] <riri> imbrandon :  Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:55] <prashantk76> in windows but i dont know about linux
[09:55] <riri> is it serious ?
[09:55] <riri> with java
[09:55] <imbrandon> riri, type "sudo dpkg --configure -a "
[09:55] <riri> ok
[09:56] <riri> i think it's a problem of licence ?
[09:56] <imbrandon> prashantk76, that dosent have anything to do with the OS , its all hardware
[09:56] <imbrandon> built into the laptop
[09:56] <prashantk76> ok
[09:57] <imbrandon> riri, no it means dpkg got interupted while installing
[09:57] <riri> do i decompresse java again ?
[09:57] <imbrandon> no
[09:57] <imbrandon> riri, type "sudo dpkg --configure -a "
[09:57] <riri> yes i did
[09:57] <imbrandon> ok
[09:57] <imbrandon> now
[09:58] <riri> ok
[09:58] <paines> hi
[09:58] <riri> nothing more
[09:58] <Bilford> Konqueror is a good browswer
[09:58] <prashantk76> i like Opera
[09:58] <admiral_proFTW> Firefox FTW
[09:58] <Bilford> I was a FF snob
[09:59] <imbrandon> riri you will need to "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and "sudo update-alternatives --config jar" also when done
[09:59] <riri> yes
[09:59] <imbrandon> firefox
[09:59] <Bilford> so Konqueror had to be pretty good for me to switch
[09:59] <riri> i was looking in my text
[09:59] <riri> lol
[09:59] <riri> thanks
[09:59] <Bilford> did you know you can configure Konqueror so you can, for example, just type   g Whatever
[09:59] <Bilford> in the address bar, and it will do a Google search
[09:59] <imbrandon> you can also in almost anyother browser ;)
[10:00] <Bilford> really?
[10:00] <Bilford> you can make your own
[10:00] <imbrandon> yes
[10:00] <Bilford> I made one for TorrentSpy
[10:00] <Bilford> so I just type  in the address bar    ts  whatImLookingFor
[10:01] <admiral_proFTW> on wikipedia "wiki prime number"
[10:01] <riri> imbrandon you are a golden mine !
[10:01] <admiral_proFTW> urban dictionary "slang mork"
[10:01] <admiral_proFTW> etc
[10:01] <imbrandon> leagle stuff i'm sure, but this is stuff for # kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[10:01] <Bilford> FF doesnt obey my mouse settings
[10:02] <_johnyboy> hi using rc 6,06  but pcmcia is only working when i remove pcmcia card en replace it again then everything works fine
[10:02] <Bilford> when i use the roller, FF insists on only scrolling one line per click
[10:02] <admiral_proFTW> you can change that
[10:02] <imbrandon> Bilford, thats a setting
[10:02] <Bilford> I messed with about:config
[10:02] <_johnyboy> on breezy it was working
[10:03] <imbrandon> _johnyboy, make sure you can replicate it 100% of the time and then file a coherant bug report on launchpad.net
[10:03] <Bilford> I cant think of anything FF does that Konqueror doesnt
[10:04] <_nano_> so what are the advantages of konqueror over firefox? apart from OS integration?
[10:04] <Bilford> I dont know
[10:04] <admiral_proFTW> OS intergration?
[10:05] <imbrandon> no del.icio.us plugins etc ;)
[10:05] <admiral_proFTW> i dont need del.icio,ous plug-ins
[10:05] <Bilford> I think Konqueror is more configurable
[10:05] <admiral_proFTW> nor do i want them
[10:05] <Bilford> since it's Linux
[10:05] <useratnetvista> Hey, anyone know if it is better to use limewire or gtk-gnutella?
[10:05] <admiral_proFTW> Billford: I dont see the connection
[10:05] <Bilford> aMule
[10:06] <Bilford> all I know is, I can configure it so I type  gi ImageImLookingFOr   for a Google Image serach
[10:06] <paines> kmail+spamassassin isn't filtering any spam mail. thunderbird does a much better job with his included junk filter. and yes spamassassin is activated. anyone have an idea ?
[10:06] <Bilford> or  gn Subject  for a Google News search
[10:06] <Bilford> or anything else I want
[10:07] <useratnetvista> imbrandon As usual, you're a font of useful information.
[10:07] <imbrandon> paines, is it adding spam stuff to the header ?
[10:07] <Bilford> if I want info on a TV show, I just type  tv nameofshow  in the address bar
[10:08] <imbrandon> Bilford, yes yes we all know we can do this in any browser, hell even IE you can make your own ;)
[10:08] <admiral_proFTW> i could do that too
[10:08] <admiral_proFTW> in Firefox
[10:08] <Bilford> how did you do that in FF
[10:08] <imbrandon> bookmarklets
[10:08] <Bilford> oh
[10:08] <imbrandon> infact ff had it first
[10:08] <imbrandon> ;)
[10:08] <paines> imbrandon: let me check
[10:09] <Bilford> FF is a great browser
[10:09] <admiral_proFTW> or keyword in  your bookmarks
[10:09] <prashantk76> how about "opera" guys........any coments
[10:09] <Bilford> but Konqueror does everything FF does and I dont have to have another app running
[10:09] <imbrandon> Bilford, point is this chan is for support , not a fanboy club for any one app ;) to discuss how great one app is or another try offtopic
[10:10] <useratnetvista> Nevermind. Limewire only has rpms, and I don't feel like converting it to a debian package.
[10:10] <imbrandon> now if konq wasent working for you though would be diffrent ;)
[10:10] <admiral_proFTW> imbrandon, blasphemy
[10:10] <imbrandon> useratnetvista, it has binary packages too
[10:10] <Bilford> ok, for support, I need help setting up a Kubuntu Forums search
[10:10] <paines> imbrandon: no. seems like spamassassin -L isn't called or something
[10:11] <imbrandon> useratnetvista, try FrostWire also
[10:11] <Bilford> I have it set for:   http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?query=\{@}
[10:11] <imbrandon> paines, there is your problem then ;)
[10:11] <paines> imbrandon: yes. i will investigate. thanks
[10:13] <useratnetvista> imbrandon: It looks exactly like limewire, except with .debs Thanks much.
[10:13] <imbrandon> morning Seveas
[10:13] <Bilford> but when I use that for a search, it just goes to the Advanced Search page with the Search field filled in with my subject.  I have to click Enter again
[10:14] <Seveas> oi
[10:16] <riri> imbrandon fla and java is installed
[10:16] <Bilford> oh
[10:16] <Bilford> I probably have to add ?quicksearch=1
[10:17] <prashantk76> one more quick question i have docking station with laptop when ever undock my laptop, laptop hang
[10:20] <imbrandon> Bilford, http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=search2&search=\{@}
[10:20] <Bilford> I jsut got it
[10:20] <Bilford> hm, mine's different
[10:20] <imbrandon> you have the ubuntu forums anyhow not the kubuntu ones ;)
[10:21] <Bilford> http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?do=process&showposts=0&quicksearch=1&query=\{@}
[10:21] <imbrandon> thats te ubuntu forums , mine was for the kubuntu forums as you requested
[10:21] <Bilford> I know, I have to make  a Kubuntu one.  I'll use yours ty
[10:22] <riri> imbrandon : that's the message ... 3 times we reinstalled kubuntu
[10:22] <riri> Unable to copy the source file ./installer/services.sh to the destination file /etc/init.d/vmware.
[10:22] <imbrandon> how are you running the installer ?
[10:22] <riri> in su - root
[10:23] <imbrandon> that dosent run it, how are you running it
[10:23] <riri> it doesn't do it on my pc
[10:23] <imbrandon> i haven installed vmware player many times
[10:24] <imbrandon> no problems, using "sudo ./installerfile "
[10:24] <riri> ./vmware-installer.pl
[10:24] <imbrandon> no
[10:24] <imbrandon> "sudo ./vmware-installer.pl"
[10:26] <imbrandon> riri, here is a howto for vmware on dapper http://www.linuxforums.org/applications/using_vmware_player_to_test_linux_distributions.html
[10:27] <fadli> hi
[10:27] <imbrandon> hello
[10:27] <riri> thanks
[10:27] <fadli> this is my first day using kubuntu 6.06
[10:27] <GazzaK> it's nice isn't it fadli?
[10:28] <GazzaK> hey imbrandon, morning
[10:28] <fadli> quite nice, better than kanotix
[10:28] <imbrandon> heya GazzaK
[10:29] <GazzaK> imbrandon, do you have a linky to your xbox mods?  remeber you were talking about it, and you said you had a webpage detailing some stuff you had done?
[10:29] <fadli> any idea how to install opera web browser in kubuntu?
[10:30] <fadli> i stuck when using apt-get
[10:30] <imbrandon> not yet, i havent made it yet ;) i will soon though promis ;)
[10:30] <imbrandon> fadli, you cant get opera with apt-get , grab the deb from operas page
[10:30] <imbrandon> or try oput firefox ;)
[10:31] <fadli> stuck with dependency : xlib6g
[10:31] <fadli> firefox is nice, but it make my pc slower
[10:31] <imbrandon> apt-get install xlib6g then i would assume ;)
[10:31] <fadli> it says broken
[10:31] <imbrandon> can you pastebin the error ?
[10:31] <fadli> *it says broken packages
[10:32] <fadli> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:32] <fadli>   opera: Depends: xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) but it is not installable or
[10:32] <fadli>                   xlibs but it is not installable
[10:32] <fadli> E: Broken packages
[10:32] <FritoHelado> Hey, I can't figure out how to get a second panel in kde so I can have a launch panel.
[10:32] <imbrandon> did you get the deb for your version of dapper ?
[10:33] <fadli> hmm, whats that?
[10:33] <imbrandon> the os your running ;)
[10:33] <fadli> ohiknowwhat u mean.
[10:34] <fadli> there is no dapper deb for opera yet. i am using hoary deb
[10:34] <fadli> hoary is 5.10, rite?
[10:35] <Bilford> no
[10:35] <Bilford> 4.something
[10:35] <imbrandon> no
[10:35] <imbrandon> horay is 4.10
[10:35] <imbrandon> point is you need the deb to match the version you have installed
[10:35] <imbrandon> !opera
[10:35] <ubotu> download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:36] <imbrandon> there ya go ^^
[10:36] <fadli> 5.10 Breezy Badger. ok
[10:36] <FritoHelado> Nevermind. I found it.
[10:36] <Bilford> Dapper is coming out in 2 days
[10:36] <lackdiant> hi, I've got problems with kubuntu due to konqueror, sometimes when I want to open some folder, kubuntu crashes and closes session, do you know if there's some bug about it?
[10:37] <lackdiant> it only happens since last 2 or 3 days
[10:38] <Bilford> no, have you rebootted at all?
[10:38] <Bilford> maybe a reboot would fix it
[10:39] <Lynoure> reboots fixing things sounds like MS Windows. But yeah, often after an update xserver restart is in place.
[10:40] <fadli> i think i will use just konqueror now. until opera deb come up in repos
[10:40] <imbrandon> fadli, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:42] <McNutella> fadli, you got opera to work in ubuntu ?
[10:42] <McNutella> oh nm :)
[10:45] <fadli> i am trying
[10:47] <riri> thanks imbrandon :)
[10:47] <riri> it's starting...
[10:47] <riri> lol
[10:47] <riri> 3 days we are on it :)
[10:51] <fadli> thanks all. now i can use opera
[10:52] <imbrandon> yw
[10:52] <fadli> i must install xlibs; dpkg -i xlibs_6.8.2-77_all.deb
[10:53] <fadli> and then opera
[10:54] <visik7> ok in breezy framebuffer boot at 1024x768, installed dapper from scratch and now boot at 640x480 I've added vga=791 but when I've a kernel update it fallback to 640
[10:54] <visik7> any way to fix ?
[10:56] <imbrandon> edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:57] <imbrandon> # kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro  <-- look for a line similar to that and make it similar to this # kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro vga=791
[10:57] <riri> imbrandon : what is the command .... in kernel noacpi=
[10:58] <riri> for sound card
[10:58] <imbrandon> riri, acpi=off
[10:58] <riri> thanks ! lol
[10:59] <imbrandon> visik7, make sure to leave the lines commented out though, thats how it works
[10:59] <imbrandon> read the instructions there for hints on other things, then when done type "sudo update-grub"
[10:59] <fadli> just adumb question; in linux how to check the distro i am using?
[10:59] <imbrandon> fadli, for ubuntu ones type "cat /etc/issue"
[11:00] <visik7> thanks imbrandon
[11:00] <fadli> like kernel version,we use uname  -r, how about distro?
[11:00] <imbrandon> fadli, for ubuntu ones type "cat /etc/issue"
[11:00] <visik7> cool works thanks imbrandon
[11:00] <imbrandon> np
[11:01] <fadli> the cat /etc/isssue thing; it is true in ubuntu; but not in other distros
[11:02] <imbrandon> ubuntu / kubuntu / edubuntu etc but not others
[11:02] <fadli> if there is a standard way to do it
[11:02] <imbrandon> no
[11:02] <fadli> ooo ok,ty
[11:02] <imbrandon> most of the time it can be found in /etc/motd too but not always
[11:04] <fadli> yup. err im going reboot. just finished apt-get upgrade
[11:04] <fadli> hope to see u soon. thanks all
[11:05] <_marco> hello
[11:06] <_marco> how  can i see the file of adept/apt?
[11:06] <_marco> the log file
[11:06] <imbrandon> "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:06] <_marco> plaease
[11:06] <imbrandon> ohh log
[11:07] <_marco> i wanna see what the output that cames for few seconds when i install a package.........
[11:07] <_marco> ok?
[11:08] <imbrandon> use apt on the console
[11:08] <_marco> ehhh
[11:09] <imbrandon> it dosent keep a long that i know of, you can run apt-get from the console and it wont shut it off automaticly
[11:09] <imbrandon> log*
[11:09] <_marco> and on Adept there are a log file that save all the output ( i mean message )generated by installation?
[11:10] <_marco> however ok
[11:10] <_marco> last question... a good guide for sendmail?
[11:12] <imbrandon> _marco, http://tinyurl.com/d9ttt
[11:18] <GazzaK> does anyone know what happens if the live cd runs out of availible ram?
[11:19] <[fadli] > should be it hanged
[11:19] <imbrandon> it will die if no swap is used
[11:19] <GazzaK> Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)Mprocessor1.80GHz at 598 MHz (1196 bogomips), , RAM: 1001/1011MB, 105 proc's, 4.19d up
[11:19] <GazzaK> oh dear
[11:20] <imbrandon> Sysinfo for 'voyager': Linux 2.6.15-23-686 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.93GHz at 2934 MHz (5871 bogomips), HD: 53/147GB, RAM: 738/1002MB, 124 proc's, 1.59h up
[11:20] <GazzaK> I have no swap on this machine, it's all ntfs on the hard drives
[11:20] <_marco> imbrandon, no no i want sendmail on my kubuntu
[11:20] <_marco> not on server
[11:21] <imbrandon> _marco, just follow the sendmail part not the whole thing
[11:21] <imbrandon> then
[11:21] <GazzaK> okay, is there a way to save some changes to a usb key?  ie the konversation settings?
[11:21] <imbrandon> GazzaK, save your /home dir
[11:21] <imbrandon> to the usb key
[11:23] <GazzaK> done, 13mb
[11:23] <imbrandon> that should save all your personal configs
[11:24] <GazzaK> what file is the konversation settings file saved as? (just to check)
[11:24] <imbrandon> hmmm hold on lemme look
[11:25] <imbrandon> GazzaK,  ~/.kde/share/config/konversationrc
[11:26] <imbrandon> when you reboot you will probbly have to copy your /home dir back and then log out and relogin for the old settings to work
[11:27] <blackflag> hello all
[11:28] <blackflag> I just upgarde  fromm breezy to dapper using the generated file with source-o-matic
[11:28] <GazzaK> okay, will try now :)...
[11:28] <GazzaK> thats almost 5 days uptime runnign on a live cd, not bad
[11:28] <blackflag> now I want the german language file for openoffice2
[11:29] <GazzaK> Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)Mprocessor1.80GHz at 1794 MHz (3590 bogomips), , RAM: 979/1011MB, 111 proc's, 4.19d up
[11:29] <GazzaK> it's gone down???
[11:29] <blackflag> it has an entry in database butr it is not accesible or dowbloadable
[11:29] <GazzaK> i'll try leaving it till it crashes then
[11:29] <blackflag> where can I get the language file?
[11:29] <blackflag> can someone help?
[11:32] <GazzaK> blackflag: sorry, I have not looked at languages for OpenOffice yet
[11:34] <blackflag> I thought dapper comes with the necassary files
[11:35] <blackflag> why its not working for me?
[11:36] <Snake[Sleep] > blackflag: sudo apt-get install language-pack-de
[11:37] <markc> I have a strange netwrok issue with a fresh install of the i386 RC livecd on a newly renovated box... neither wireless or eth networking actually work... the interfaces come up and I can manually assign IPs etc but no amount of pinging or head banging with talk to anything on the other end of various wires or wireless points... is there something in the kernel stack (.proc) that should be turned on to allow basic networking to work perhap
[11:38] <Snake[Sleep] > blackflag: im sorry, actually do "sudo apt-get install language-support-de"
[11:38] <Snake[Sleep] > my fault
[11:39] <dsl957> Mirgam, are you there ?
[11:39] <dsl957> What's your nick ?
[11:40] <dsl957> It's me, gnukid
[11:42] <GazzaK> gnu gnu
[11:43] <GazzaK> haha
[11:43] <FritoHelado> imbrandon: Dude, frostwire is so much like limewire it hurts.
[11:43] <dsl957> GazzaK, Who are you ?
[11:43] <Jack1> hi
[11:43] <Jack1> in kontact, the program kalender who is familiar with that?
[11:43] <GazzaK> http://korea.gnu.org/image/meditate-middle.png
[11:44] <GazzaK> dsl957: I am GazzaK, nothing to do with Mirgam, sorry, just thought your gnukid was funny
[11:45] <imbrandon> FritoHelado, its based on the same code ;)
[11:45] <FritoHelado> No kidding...
[11:45] <FritoHelado> Based, or is?
[11:45] <imbrandon> is , just read up on frostwire.com ;)
[11:46] <Snake[Sleep] > FritoHelado: basted
[11:46] <Snake[Sleep] > based**
[11:46] <Snake[Sleep] > imbrandon: it cant be the same code man, no way would limewire let them open source it
[11:46] <imbrandon> umm limewire is opensource ;)
[11:46] <imbrandon> has been forever
[11:46] <FritoHelado> Yeppers.
[11:47] <Snake[Sleep] > I know
[11:47] <imbrandon> for Snake[Sleep] 
[11:47] <FritoHelado> It's a little sneaky, but probably not illegal enough to bother prosecutin for.
[11:47] <Snake[Sleep] > but im saying thats why I think that its not the same code as limewire...
[11:47] <imbrandon> dude Snake[Sleep]  its exactly the same, what are you talking about?
[11:47] <imbrandon> limewire AND frostwire are the same codebase and are both opensource
[11:47] <FritoHelado> Hey, that's not fair, dude. there's a blue theme on this one.
[11:49] <Snake[Sleep] > imbrandon: why would they charge for limewire then?
[11:50] <Snake[Sleep] > wtf limewire.org??
[11:50] <imbrandon> limewire has a free version also and its opensource, its not iileagle to charge for opensource software, thats like saying why does redhat or suse charge for their os ;)
[11:50] <Snake[Sleep] > imbrandon: if I download off limewire.org does it come with spyware?
[11:50] <imbrandon> limewire.org == opensource page of limewire.com ;)
[11:51] <imbrandon> Snake[Sleep] , no limewires have spyware
[11:52] <Snake[Sleep] > imbrandon: explain
[11:53] <imbrandon> explain what ? limewire is opensource , they also ask you to donate to them for the "pro" version but its still open source , frostwaire is just another opensource p2p client based on the same code
[11:53] <imbrandon> neither has spyware
[11:53] <_seb> imbrandon, anychance you're the Brandon from neowin?
[11:53] <imbrandon> nope ;)
[11:54] <_seb> just checking
[11:54] <Snake[Sleep] > imbrandon: dude last I checked if I grabbed the windows version it came bundled with some spyware
[11:54] <Snake[Sleep] > free "ad supported" version
[11:54] <imbrandon> i'm the brandon from http://wiki.kubuntu.org ;)
[11:54] <Jack1> somebody used the journal function of kontact?
[11:54] <Jack1> hellO?
[11:54] <imbrandon> Snake[Sleep] , nope limewire has NEVER been ad supported, you got a hacked version from somewhere else OR are thinking of another p2p app
[11:55] <imbrandon> Jack1, nope
[11:55] <Snake[Sleep] > hmmm...
[11:55] <Jack1> imbrandon u have it?
[11:55] <imbrandon> have what ?
[11:55] <Snake[Sleep] > in anycase im not touchin limewire again, i like frostwire
[11:55] <Jack1> imbrandon i just wonder if it should be used as real journal or what is function is
[11:55] <imbrandon> readup on its website ;)
[11:55] <Jack1> imbrandon and if it can be used with kgpg
[11:56] <Jack1> didnt find there much..i looked there
[11:56] <FritoHelado> what is kgpg?
[11:56] <imbrandon> kde frontend for gpg
[11:57] <FritoHelado> Okay, what is gpg?
[11:57] <imbrandon> !gpg
[11:57] <ubotu> gpg is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[11:58] <FritoHelado> See, the words gnuprivacyguard would've gotten the point across.
[11:58] <imbrandon> probbly but that gives you the whole story ;)
[11:59] <FritoHelado> since you are my everlasting font of info, can you tell me how to set up aac encoding in kaudiocreator>
[11:59] <FritoHelado> ?*
[11:59] <Jack1> another thing
[12:00] <FritoHelado> I have faac installed.
[12:00] <imbrandon> FritoHelado, nixternal`zzz can if/when he wakes up
[12:00] <imbrandon> he uses aac and kaudiocreator
[12:00] <Jack1> strange i got banned from an undernet channel without reason..how would ic findout the responsible admin of a channel?
[12:00] <FritoHelado> Why do you know that?
[12:01] <imbrandon> Jack1, no idea that network has nothing to do with freenode and has diffrent rules/contacts check their website
[12:01] <imbrandon> FritoHelado, becouse i talk to him regularly
[12:01] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:02] <FritoHelado> Okay, well you must talk to him very regularly indeed to know his computing habits.
[12:02] <Crystufer> That feels good.
[12:03] <imbrandon> Snake[Sleep] , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FrostWire
[12:03] <Crystufer> Okay, so how about I ask kde related questions in kde?
[12:04] <imbrandon> heh
[12:09] <Jack1> hi if i use the function encrypt clipboard in kgpg where would the encrypted file be saved? i dont find it..
[12:09] <nolte> harddiskmanager is not working in dapper rc1 installed on hpdl360
[12:09] <imbrandon> Jack1, probbly in the clipboard
[12:10] <Jack1> u r right
[12:11] <Jack1> sorry imbrandon stupid to ask but didnt find out
[12:11] <imbrandon> np
[12:14] <Jack1> what are ur tips/hints to have a powerful encryption?
[12:14] <Jack1> something one should have in mind
[12:14] <imbrandon> i dont use encryption that much
[12:14] <Hobbsee> Jack1: maybe ~/.kgpg
[12:14] <imbrandon> morning Hobbsee
[12:14] <Hobbsee> heay
[12:14] <Hobbsee> *heya
[12:16] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, got about 16/20 solved problems tonight ;) hehe
[12:16] <imbrandon> not toooo bad of ratio
[12:16] <Jack1> Hobbsee no imbrandon was right, its put to klipper and has to be saved manually
[12:16] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: yay :)
[12:16] <Hobbsee> Jack1: ah okay - i just use gpg, or the enigmail plugin for thunderbird.
[12:17] <Crystufer> He, is it safe to upgrade to kde 3.5 in kubuntu, or should I just wait for a dapper?
[12:17] <Jack1> yes i had that too but now have kmail; advantage of kgpg is that  it is more flexible u can encrypt virtually anything
[12:18] <imbrandon> Crystufer, when i used breezy it was no problem but on the other hand dapper is going to be released ~48 hrs
[12:18] <Crystufer> Really?
[12:18] <Crystufer> Are you on the dev crew, btw?
[12:19] <imbrandon> not realy / kinda .... lol i'm a kubuntu member that contributes where i can ;)
[12:19] <Crystufer> Good enough for me.
[12:19] <Hobbsee> imbrandon
[12:19] <imbrandon> sup ?
[12:19] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: there are both advantages and disadvantages too
[12:19] <Hobbsee> hmmm?
[12:19] <Crystufer> So is it a mother to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[12:20] <imbrandon> Crystufer, nah its not too bad, look at this link ......
[12:20] <imbrandon> !upgrade
[12:20] <Hobbsee> Crystufer: less of a pain if you have kubuntu-desktop installed, but still painful, i thought...
[12:20] <imbrandon> !+upgrade
[12:20] <ubotu> well, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[12:20] <imbrandon> "[05:19]  <Hobbsee> imbrandon: there are both advantages and disadvantages too" huh ?
[12:20] <vinboy> hi
[12:20] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: of the mail client over gmail.
[12:21] <imbrandon> ohh hehe
[12:21] <vinboy> my reiser fs on my linux givnig me some error during bootup
[12:21] <imbrandon> yea i have all my pop accounts just sent to gmail , then i use a client to get my gmail via pop
[12:21] <propagandhi> anybody here know much about bash scripting
[12:21] <Hobbsee> propagandhi: yes
[12:21] <imbrandon> propagandhi, a little
[12:21] <imbrandon> vinboy, what error
[12:21] <Hobbsee> propagandhi: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[12:21] <propagandhi> i know how stupid this is, but how do i detect spaces in variables?
[12:22] <Hobbsee> er...well, i know of a tutorial for it, but no idea about answers to questions
[12:22] <imbrandon> erm
[12:22] <Snake[Sleep] > Hobbsee: hey :)
[12:22] <Hobbsee> hi Snake[Sleep] 
[12:22] <propagandhi> Hobbsee, thats ok
[12:22] <Crystufer> Holy awesome crap!
[12:22] <imbrandon> hahaha Hobbsee
[12:23] <Crystufer> This is implemented allready?!
[12:23] <imbrandon> what ?
[12:23] <Crystufer> I can do this now?
[12:23] <Snake__> Crystufer: ?
[12:23] <Crystufer> the upgrade via update manager.
[12:23] <imbrandon> yes i've been running dapper ( beta ) months
[12:23] <Crystufer> That is so rediculously cool.
[12:24] <Snake__> imbrandon: mustbe a debianer
[12:24] <Snake__> :P
[12:24] <Snake__> he must be*
[12:24] <imbrandon> actualy no i used suse before kubuntu ;)
[12:24] <Crystufer> Will it change my sources.list too?
[12:24] <Snake__> imbrandon: I ment him ;)
[12:24] <imbrandon> should
[12:24] <Crystufer> Who, me?
[12:25] <imbrandon> Crystufer, should take care of everything
[12:25] <Snake__> Crystufer: yes, its a joke, which has now been butchered and killed.
[12:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there, i was wondering if you can help me.. i have a wireless router where i am the only client. When i use Ktorrent or other p2p even though the connection band is not completely used at all (50kb/s in average) when i try to use http there's an incredibly high lag time and packet loss. Do you know how to increase the priority of HTTP packets in order to improve my situation?
[12:25] <Crystufer> Okay. I didn't get it anyways. Prolly cuz I'm new to devian.
[12:25] <Crystufer> debian*
[12:26] <imbrandon> kubuntu ;)
[12:26] <imbrandon> looks like that was sudden
[12:26] <Snake__> imbrandon: he seemed so over whelmed that we get updates, he HAS to be from debian :)
[12:27] <imbrandon> Snake__, more like you could upgrade the os version without reinstall
[12:27] <Snake__> imbrandon: regardless, when was the last time debian went stable before this most recent release? 10 years??
[12:27] <Jack1> Dsa &elgamal or rsa, what do u use?
[12:28] <imbrandon> neither jack, i'm not that paranoid ;) but either would be fine
[12:28] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: If you are paranoid blowfish
[12:28] <propagandhi> Hobbsee,
[12:28] <imbrandon> moui h3sp4wn
[12:29] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: good morning (if thats what moui means ?)
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> Tallia1Kubuntu: What You want to do is very compilicated and I have never done it on the client (only on routers) you might want to try installing wondershaper or something but it doesn't work very well
[12:33] <h3sp4wn> Tallia1Kubuntu: You need to use tc (i think it is part of iproute2), ipt_layer7, ipt_IMQ, ipt_CONNMARK (If you can run the qos on the router it might be better)
[12:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h3sp4wn: on the router there's nothing..
[12:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h3sp4wn: it's weird, i taught that US-robotics was pretty good .. the connection is very good but the configuration is poor
[12:36] <h3sp4wn> Tallia1Kubuntu: I can't just give you a script that will work you just need to read and understand how qos works (or get an openwrt supported router then can you use their excellent qos stuff with few changes)
[12:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> openwrt?
[12:38] <Jack1> hi, if use kgpg to decrypt a file it will create a new file and leave it in the same folder. in the settings i cannot control this behaviour ( not saving the unencrypted file).how?
[12:39] <h3sp4wn> Snake__: Woody was released in 2002 (thats hardly 10 years) (still running it perfectly fine for a shell server I co run with concurrent 50 users)
[12:40] <Lynoure> And unstable is not that unstable either :)
[12:40] <Lynoure> Stable enough for my desktop computer without discomfort, at least.
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> Only when they are upgrading x or gcc is it really bad to upgrade
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> Lynoure: My laptop has kanotix and it runs a hell of a lot faster then the same laptop with kubuntu (for whatever reason)
[12:44] <h3sp4wn> Tallia1Kubuntu: Openwrt - Linux distribution that can run on certain routers
[12:46] <_seb> Anyone feel inclined to help me get Kopete working? I want to use it for MSN all is well and good except it keeps telling me that my password is incorrect
[12:47] <_seb> nb: my password is not incorrect
[12:47] <imbrandon> seb have you tried another msn client just to check ?
[12:47] <imbrandon> or logonto a passport site ?
[12:48] <_seb> I've logged on to my msn space and I've chaked my hotmail with that address and password and it worked fine
[12:48] <_seb> checked*
[12:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h3sp4wn: do you think my router will have that firmware available? will it work well? mine is a US-Robotics 5461
[12:48] <imbrandon> caps lock etc? the reason i ask is i'm useing kopete no problem and msn is the only service i use with it
[12:49] <imbrandon> Tallia1Kubuntu, check the supported routers openwrt.org
[12:49] <_seb> I've chcked all the obvious capslock / me being a tard things and none of them helped
[12:49] <imbrandon> _seb, damn yea thats strange, i just loged out and back in to make sure
[12:50] <h3sp4wn> Tallia1Kubuntu: It is listed as untested on http://toh.openwrt.org (But quite possibly will work) The only problem is that it only has 8mb of ram 2 meg flash will restrict you somewhat
[12:50] <imbrandon> Tallia1Kubuntu, http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware
[12:51] <_seb> Can you tell me what your settings are in the 'configure kopete' section ?
[12:51] <imbrandon> _seb, yea one sec
[12:51] <_seb> if you go to the account preferences in modifying your account what port? That's the only think I can think of
[12:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h3sp4wn: restrict?
[12:52] <imbrandon> its blanked out, so i'm guessing the default port ( kopete 11.3 )
[12:53] <_seb> don't know which kopete i'm using :| Where do I find out?
[12:53] <h3sp4wn> Tallia1Kubuntu: You have to be very careful what you install on 2mb flash (not much space) - but boot wait is on so it is impossible to break it permenantly (even if it doesn't work)
[12:54] <_seb> nice, kopete 0.10
[12:54] <_seb> KDE 3.4.0
[12:54] <imbrandon> err 0.11.3
[12:54] <imbrandon> kde 3.5.3
[12:55] <_seb> Right, normally I'd use the normal ubuntu but I managed to muck up my MBR so I'm on kubuntu until my new CD's arrive. I'll have to find some kind of package manager?
[12:55] <_seb> ooooh, kynaptic sounds fun#
[12:55] <imbrandon> adept
[12:55] <_seb> adept?
[12:56] <imbrandon> kde package manager
[12:56] <_seb> can't find anything called adept, it all starts with a K :P
[12:56] <imbrandon> and you know you can "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" right ?
[12:56] <Snake__> http://www.xubuntu.org/
[12:56] <Snake__> man ugly website
[12:57] <_seb> I know, but it's so much hassle. I'd rather have a clean install with the latest ubuntu
[12:57] <imbrandon> Snake__, shhh we dont bash our brothers lol
[12:57] <Snake__> imbrandon: dude you have to agree, that is one ugly website
[12:57] <Snake__> lol
[12:57] <Snake__> Frames.
[12:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h3sp4wn: yeah, it doesn't seem to be a good solution, after have seen this article: http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27751
[12:57] <imbrandon> i dont see any frames, and actualy i like it better than ubuntu.com ---- offtopic
[12:58] <Snake__> imbrandon: thats not frames?? the top, and right side?
[12:58] <_seb> woot, installing gaim :P much easier solution. Thanks for your help
[12:58] <imbrandon> Snake__, thats called tables
[12:58] <Snake__> imbrandon: thats not much better ;)
[01:00] <Snake[Away] > imout pz
[01:04] <_seb> Muahaha, it works :)
[01:15] <crazy_penguin> hello everybody.
[01:16] <XVampireX> crazy_penguin: :D
[01:16] <imbrandon> 'ello
[01:17] <XVampireX> imbrandon: that's the one I told you had the DNS problems
[01:17] <imbrandon> yea at a friends house
[01:17] <XVampireX> yup
[01:18] <XVampireX> He's having problems with swiftfox now, I think it's the same problem with the DNS, though konqueror works just fine for him
[01:18] <XVampireX> swiftfox = firefox that's optimized for specific machines
[01:18] <imbrandon> no clue bro i stray away from swiftfox
[01:18] <XVampireX> It's the same thing as firefox though :P
[01:19] <imbrandon> not exactly, it dosent render them all the same, i have used it in the past
[01:19] <imbrandon> its close
[01:19] <imbrandon> ;)
[01:19] <XVampireX> Yeah, I know about the rendering
[01:19] <XVampireX> But I mean the way it connects to the internet is the same eh? :P
[01:20] <imbrandon> not sure, if the rendering isnt the same anything could be diffrent , like i said i stray away from it ;)
[01:20] <word> how do you check a drive for bad sectors?
[01:20] <imbrandon> fschk
[01:20] <word> that a package?
[01:20] <imbrandon> its a program
[01:20] <Jack1> hi
[01:21] <imbrandon> kinda like scandisk for windows
[01:21] <Jack1> where are the xchat logs saved?
[01:21] <Jack1> anybody knows?
[01:21] <Chousuke> fsck though.
[01:21] <Chousuke> :)
[01:21] <imbrandon> jack: if they are turned on it should have the dir in the config
[01:21] <word> does that check the entire disk though?
[01:22] <Chousuke> word: yes. or whatever you tell it to check
[01:22] <Chousuke> I think it checks partitions.
[01:22] <imbrandon> but dont run it on mounted disks ;)
[01:22] <Chousuke> but you can give it all your partitions to check.
[01:22] <XVampireX> imbrandon: He says firefox doesn't work either
[01:23] <XVampireX> word: Linux is NOT windows, It's MORE powerful.
[01:23] <imbrandon> is it not working or is the default page not there, is he actualy trying to GO to a url like google.com
[01:23] <word> vamp shush i was only on windows because it said that's where the bad sector is i told you that
[01:24] <XVampireX> word: linux can scan windows partitions and linux partitions
[01:24] <imbrandon> XVampireX, but it cant fix ntfs ones ;)
[01:24] <XVampireX> yeah
[01:24] <XVampireX> cause no write capability
[01:25] <XVampireX> They should start implementing ntfs mounting that works read/write
[01:25] <h3sp4wn> Tallia1Kubuntu: Probably so (but the micro image is designed for devices with low flash and it appears they tried to use the full sized image)
[01:26] <denni> what is possible reason for seeing the php code in the browser when trying to install squirrelmail
[01:26] <imbrandon> denni that php isnt setup correctly on your apache server
[01:26] <h3sp4wn> Tallia1Kubuntu: The source code is available from us robotics though maybe someone else has made a custom firmware with qos
[01:27] <denni> trying to figure out what is going wrong it seem that both php4 and php5 is installed
[01:27] <word> fsck.ntfs: not found ...........uh..
[01:28] <denni> using the preconfigured package from ubuntu
[01:28] <imbrandon> word , have ntfstools installed ?
[01:29] <imbrandon> and or ntfsprogs
[01:29] <davidhouse> hi guys. what should i use to watch .mov videos?
[01:29] <word>  i have ntfsprogs but not tools
[01:29] <davidhouse> kaffeine, not exactly The Rock of All Video Players, is crashing on me.
[01:29] <word> installin that now
[01:30] <davidhouse>  (i'd like to not have to install something monolithic like mplayer, but i suppose that would work)
[01:30] <cfraz89> davidhouse: codeine is good
[01:30] <cfraz89> and kmplayer
[01:31] <cfraz89> no, kmplayer works with xine
[01:31] <cfraz89> and mplayer
[01:31] <cfraz89> but codeine just works
[01:31] <davidhouse> where's codeine? adept can't find it
[01:31] <cfraz89> try www.kde-apps.org
[01:31] <FHX> Hm..how do I upgrade my version of Kubuntu?
[01:33] <imbrandon> !upgrade
[01:33] <imbrandon> !+upgrade
[01:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[01:33] <FHX> Thanks
[01:33] <FHX> wait
[01:33] <FHX> imbrandon, is dapper stable now?
[01:34] <imbrandon> its tech a RC foir a few more days
[01:34] <FHX> ok
[01:34] <FHX> so i'll upgrade my kubuntu first, then in a couple of days upgrade to dapper?
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey Im
[01:35] <davidhouse> hmm... installing codeine complains about a missing uic. which package would this be in?
[01:36] <XVampireX> Hey, how can one make katapult look for filenames first instead of folders?
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> I was able to run the scripts for a theme but they dont show up ...Where is heme manager?
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> theme
[01:37] <FHX> btw, all my stuff is not updated. my kopete is outdated and my amarok is 1.3 still, what should I do??
[01:37] <FHX> O.o
[01:37] <Kmirno> run in the forest
[01:37] <FHX> ._.
[01:37] <FHX> =O
[01:37] <FHX> seriously.
[01:37] <FHX> oh yes
[01:38] <FHX> does anyone know how i can get windows fonts on here?
[01:39] <dr3as> msttcorefonts
[01:40] <FHX> thanks
[01:40] <nolte> isn't sshd on the installation cd ?
[01:41] <linux_galore> just testing the latest version of ktorrent (yes there is a whole new version just released), wow its fast, getting the same speeds (even better right not) than azureus
[01:41] <linux_galore> nolte: its not called sshd
[01:42] <FHX> Meh. How do i update all my apps, does anyone know? i'm still kind of new to this and all my apps rre not upgraded (kopete, amarok, etc.)
[01:42] <Lynoure> nolte: ssh server was not installed by default, at least.
[01:42] <nolte> Lynoure: so where can i find it ?
[01:43] <linux_galore> nolte: lookup openssh-server
[01:43] <Lynoure> nolte: cannot remember 100% surely and too busy to google now (I'm at work at the moment, not on my ubuntu) :/
[01:45] <nolte> linux_galore: openssh-server sounds good, thanks
[01:45] <linux_galore> nolte: should be on the cd or the repository
[01:54] <_unknown> hi
[01:55] <rosemary> gidday
[01:55] <_unknown> I have a problem, when I Browse with Konqueror I can browse just fine, but with swiftfox/firefox I cannot at all
[01:57] <Hobbsee> Hobbsee_: *poke*
[02:00] <rosemary> I have 6.06 for two days, but it seems as stable as any other linux.  Admittedly I don't extend it - just use it for basic stuff, but looks very nice.  I am a PCLos user
[02:00] <McNutella> whats with konversation taking forever to connect to the network nowadays ?
[02:00] <XVampireX> konversations fault :P
[02:00] <XVampireX> Just kidding
[02:00] <XVampireX> freenode might be full
[02:00] <linux_galore> Ive got gaim here works fine
[02:01] <linux_galore> XVampireX: might be your firewall
[02:01] <McNutella> happens on other networks too XVampireX, and I thought it could be firewall, but its not on (afaik)
[02:01] <XVampireX> I have no problem
[02:01] <XVampireX> It's McNutella
[02:01] <linux_galore> sorry meant McNutella
[02:01] <McNutella> ..as I just wrote
[02:02] <XVampireX> Can anyone help _unknown ?
[02:02] <linux_galore> McNutella: if you have the firewall active either on the router or the pc, it takes ages to login to feenode
[02:02] <Hobbsee> McNutella, does it try to check for ident first?
[02:02] <McNutella> Hobbsee, yep
[02:02] <McNutella> no ident found blah blah
[02:02] <Hobbsee> _unknown, connecting via proxy or something weird?
[02:03] <Hobbsee> McNutella, that's why...not sure how to turn it off though
[02:03] <McNutella> ill go rtfm.. for now :P
[02:03] <rosemary> _unknown, can I suggest from personal experience - join forums, and also identify yourself here with a nick.  Makes for better relationships
[02:04] <McNutella> or make people crave chocolate spread..
[02:04] <riri> sun java is broken
[02:04] <Dasnipa`> indeed
[02:04] <linux_galore> riri: works fine for me
[02:04] <rosemary> rather have choclate
[02:04] <Dasnipa`> how on the 1st when official 1.0 comes out will we just get it thru apt?
[02:05] <riri> adepte can't  install it
[02:05] <linux_galore> riri: use easybuntu or automatix
[02:05] <riri> where is it ?
[02:05] <Hobbsee> !automatix
[02:05] <ubotu> [automatix]  unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[02:06] <linux_galore> easyubuntu:
[02:06] <Dasnipa`> lol
[02:06] <linux_galore> sh: easyubuntu: command not found
[02:06] <linux_galore> bugger
[02:06] <Dasnipa`> !easyubuntu
[02:06] <ubotu> I heard easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[02:07] <linux_galore> forgot I have a plugin that triggers on !
[02:07] <GazzaK> thats so wrong
[02:07] <riri> can't it be installed by adepte ? or apt-get ?
[02:07] <linux_galore> riri: yes but you have to edit a few things, easyubuntu does it all for you
[02:07] <GazzaK> automatix is safe....
[02:08] <riri> what is the safeer ? auto or easy ?
[02:08] <Hobbsee> easy
[02:08] <XVampireX> Do it all manually
[02:09] <linux_galore> riri: depends how lazy you are, automatix if you want to all done, easyubuntu if you want to edit the stuff yourself
[02:09] <Hobbsee> that too
[02:09] <riri> do you mean one by another ?
[02:09] <riri> i am not too lazy
[02:09] <imbrandon> !automatix
[02:09] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[02:09] <Hobbsee> noirequus, want to give the speech on how automatix is bad to GazzaK?
[02:09] <riri> bbut a bit fedup to get borken stuff
[02:09] <GazzaK> just follow the wiki
[02:09] <GazzaK> !restrictedformats
[02:09] <ubotu> [restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:09] <linux_galore> <-- uses netiher
[02:09] <linux_galore> neither*
[02:10] <linux_galore> I setup Java manually added the links etc, took like 10 min
[02:10] <bert_> !FreeFormats
[02:10] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[02:10] <riri> yes i used to do it
[02:10] <riri> with sun
[02:11] <riri> but it's long
[02:11] <riri> i don't remember all the syntax
[02:11] <GazzaK> so whats so bad with automatix then?
[02:11] <linux_galore> GazzaK: edits files without asking
[02:11] <riri> my RAM is getting saturated ! lol
[02:11] <linux_galore> riri: for java thats normal
[02:12] <riri> i mean my RAM (my memory) lol
[02:13] <riri> i would like to find an automatic installing for all this "obligatory apps"
[02:13] <riri> i install about twice a week ! lol
[02:13] <GazzaK> nothing is obligatory
[02:13] <riri> yes
[02:13] <riri> but if you don't have them...
[02:13] <riri> it's like close door...
[02:14] <riri> if i don't have flash... can't see flash
[02:14] <riri> not java ... can't use geogebra... and so on
[02:15] <linux_galore> Ive got flash and java and shockwave working in Konqueror
[02:15] <riri> ddid you install them manually ?
[02:15] <linux_galore> riri: easyubuntu is the automatic method
[02:15] <riri> ok
[02:15] <rosemary> flash and java not work in kubunru install?
[02:15] <linux_galore> riri: yes
[02:15] <riri> i try it : thanks
[02:16] <linux_galore> rosemary: there proprietry
[02:16] <linux_galore> rosemary: easy to add though
[02:16] <riri> what about the bleeding edge ?
[02:16] <riri> dangerous ?
[02:16] <linux_galore> riri: not really, has updated servers
[02:17] <riri> ok
[02:17] <riri> mandriva cookers is caca
[02:18] <riri> pipi caca
[02:18] <rosemary> linux_galore, okay but i heaps of probs getting them going in mandriva
[02:18] <riri> lol
[02:18] <riri> just what i am saying
[02:19] <linux_galore> rosemary: well you can add that stuff to mandriva easily, just add the plf server to urpmi they even have a website that spits out the lines to past into your terminal
[02:20] <linux_galore> rosemary: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/
[02:20] <rosemary> linux_galore, I don't run mandriva any more - just making thr comment I foudnt it difficult to add them
[02:20] <riri> i stop mandriva few days ago
[02:20] <rosemary> what I am asking is kubuntu stance on them and how to get them
[02:20] <riri> impossible to update kde4 to kde5.2
[02:20] <linux_galore> rosemary: lol goto be kidding no harder than ubuntu, and if you have the full version of mandriva you have java/flash already installed
[02:21] <riri> now with kub i haven't yet any prob
[02:21] <linux_galore> riri: ?? kde4 isnt even released yet
[02:21] <riri> but newbie for kubuntu
[02:21] <rosemary> linux_galore, like I said don't run mandriva now - and when i did had to add java
[02:21] <riri> lol
[02:21] <riri> sorry
[02:21] <riri> kde.3.4
[02:21] <SkrotFFS> I'd like KDE 5.2 :P
[02:21] <linux_galore> Im on kde 3.5.3
[02:21] <riri> lol
[02:22] <riri> kde3.5.3
[02:22] <SkrotFFS> =)
[02:22] <linux_galore> riri: not sure if 3.5.3 is on the servers yet
[02:22] <riri> yes
[02:22] <riri> i mean kde3.5.2
[02:23] <riri> now with adepte i don't even know which one it's ! lol
[02:23] <Hobbsee> linux_galore, shh!
[02:23] <linux_galore> riri: you can get kde 3.5.3 installed but you need to use konstruct
[02:23] <Hobbsee> linux_galore, how'd you find out, anyway?
[02:23] <riri> yes i can wait
[02:23] <linux_galore> Hobbsee: look in apt-cache
[02:23] <riri> i have to fill my kubuntu
[02:23] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, he used konstruct
[02:24] <Hobbsee> ah great.
[02:24] <Hobbsee> well, testers are good
[02:24] <riri> does konstruct works well ?
[02:24] <jita> can somebody please paste me the contents of /etc/fstab at rafb.net?
[02:24] <linux_galore> riri: yeah pretty easy
[02:24] <jita> i need to see the cdrom/dvd rom entries
[02:24] <Hobbsee> jita, what were you after?
[02:24] <Hobbsee> jita, ah, sudo apt-cdrom add
[02:25] <Hobbsee> then it'll auto add...
[02:25] <riri> the last time i used it on mandriva worked well??? but not kcontrol :) lol
[02:25] <jita> Hobbsee: there is no entry for cdrom/dvdrom drive in /etc/fstab?
[02:25] <riri> good reason to change distro
[02:25] <Hobbsee> oh, oops...
[02:26] <Hobbsee> jita, /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[02:26] <Hobbsee>  is mine
[02:26] <linux_galore> 3.5.3 is solid, no bugs here after a week
[02:26] <riri> wow easyubuntu speedy gonzalez !
[02:26] <jita> Hobbsee: you using dapper?
[02:26] <linux_galore> I had a menu bug in kde 3.5.2 seems to be fixed now
[02:26] <Hobbsee> jita, yep
[02:26] <jita> Hobbsee: ok thanx
[02:27] <riri> imbrandon can I set all options in eeeasy ubuntu ?
[02:29] <linux_galore> Im turning the auto update scripts on all the machines of on thurs->mon
[02:29] <riri> 2Gbytes ! lol
[02:30] <riri> funy
[02:30] <riri> it can't find the sun java packet
[02:31] <riri> sun java bin
[02:31] <imbrandon> !sun-java5-jre
[02:31] <ubotu> I guess sun-java5-jre is ... to install Suns Java enable multiverse and universe repositories and type "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" in a terminal
[02:31] <riri> i did it few times
[02:31] <riri> but java bin is broken
[02:32] <linux_galore> java -version:
[02:32] <linux_galore> java version "1.5.0_06"
[02:32] <linux_galore> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
[02:32] <linux_galore> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_06-b05, mixed mode, sharing)
[02:32] <rosemary> I'm geting confused here - does java work by default or not?
[02:33] <linux_galore> rosemary: no
[02:33] <linux_galore> rosemary: Ubuntu/Kubuntu sticks the OpenSource stuff and java isnt open source (yet)
[02:33] <riri> **ar/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb
[02:33] <riri>  /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb
[02:33] <riri> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:34] <riri> here is what i get after few trials
[02:34] <riri> each time
[02:34] <rosemary> linux_galore, so have to do the download etc wwwwhich is what this guy is doing - haven't been followong
[02:35] <linux_galore> rosemary: well there are two ways, you add multiverse repositories to your package manager and then you just apt-get  it or you can use easyubuntu
[02:36] <rosemary> linux_galore, oh -that easy
[02:36] <linux_galore> riri: remove the version that installed
[02:36] <riri> ok
[02:36] <riri> in fact it's not install
[02:36] <riri> i guess just downloaded
[02:36] <linux_galore> riri: I suspect its a failed install so just remove it
[02:36] <riri> with synaptic i delete broken link
[02:37] <riri> do you mean in var ?
[02:37] <linux_galore> riri: no apt thinks its installed
[02:37] <rosemary> linux_galore, yep - got the repsoitories set up didn't know java would be there
[02:37] <riri> where do i delete  it ?
[02:37] <linux_galore> you use apt
[02:38] <riri> remove ?
[02:38] <riri> apt-get remove sun...
[02:38] <linux_galore> riri: apt-get remove packagename
[02:39] <riri> ok
[02:39] <Kmirno> riri: salut
[02:39] <dein> hi
[02:39] <riri> salut
[02:39] <dein> is anyone having problems with the package manager on dapper drake kubuntu?
[02:39] <Kmirno> riri: you can get sun-j2re1.5 and sun-j2sdk1.5 on PLF repositories
[02:40] <Kmirno> dein: I don't, I love it
[02:40] <dein> i mean problems like packages not unpacking
[02:40] <dein> error messages
[02:40] <Kmirno> dein: I don't
[02:40] <Kmirno> dein: what are the error messags ?
[02:40] <Kmirno> +e
[02:40] <dein> one sec ill spawn one
[02:41] <riri> Kmirno: how to set plf ?
[02:41] <Kmirno> riri: :) http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/plf
[02:42] <Kmirno> riri: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/PLF sorry
[02:42] <riri> thanks
[02:42] <dein> "there was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[02:42] <Kmirno> ah
[02:42] <Kmirno> dein: and if you do just the same with apt-get install ?
[02:43] <dein> yes
[02:43] <Kmirno> dein: you get what error ?
[02:43] <Kmirno> the same ?
[02:43] <dein> one sec
[02:43] <rosemary> bed for me now - night all
[02:43] <riri> me toot
[02:43] <riri> i tried plf yesterday and it didn't work..
[02:44] <dein> 2re1.4 failed to preconfigure, with exit status 10
[02:44] <dein> (Reading database ... 68203 files and directories currently installed.)
[02:44] <dein> Unpacking j2re1.4 (from .../j2re1.4_1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3_i386.deb) ...
[02:44] <dein> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/j2re1.4_1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):
[02:44] <dein>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 10
[02:44] <dein> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:44] <dein>  /var/cache/apt/archives/j2re1.4_1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[02:44] <dein> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:44] <Kmirno> riri: what error msg ?
[02:45] <dein> thats the message from console
[02:45] <Kmirno> dein: well the probleme is with the package not with adept then
[02:45] <dein> both are trying to install j2re1.4
[02:45] <Kmirno> dein: trye apt-get install -f (without anything behing it)
[02:45] <dein> ok so its not something ive done to my computer
[02:45] <riri> i don't remain
[02:45] <Kmirno> dein: It may be somehting you've done to your computer
[02:46] <riri> but i just did apt-get clean
[02:46] <riri> and it's starting downloading java
[02:46] <dein> ok i did that
[02:46] <Kmirno> riri: what part did not work ? cause I works for me and for thousands downloading everyday
[02:46] <dein> and it gave the error message again after i tried again
[02:46] <riri> Des erreurs ont t rencontres pendant l'excution:
[02:46] <riri>  /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb
[02:46] <riri>  /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb
[02:46] <riri> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:46] <riri> riri@one:~/easyubuntu$ than
[02:46] <dein> im having troubles with that same package too
[02:47] <Kmirno> hum
[02:47] <riri> is there a list of good repos ?
[02:47] <Kmirno> theses packages were made for breezy, but I tested them on kubuntu dapper, and they did work
[02:47] <riri> i am on dapper rc
[02:48] <dein> ditto
[02:48] <riri> freshly updated
[02:48] <Kmirno> riri: well you can use java packager to make packages for your distro
[02:48] <riri> i want to do it automatic as possible
[02:48] <riri> because i have to do it often
[02:48] <dein> the java packager is pretty automatic
[02:48] <riri> sure if it doesn't work i will do it manually
[02:49] <Kmirno> riri: I installed dapper i386 kubuntu 2 days ago and installed java yesterday on it. It worked .. I don't know what to say. make your own, you don't need to know anything about packageing for java
[02:49] <dein> its just a sh command and an install
[02:49] <riri> ok
[02:49] <Kmirno> riri: it's pretty straightfowarfd you get the java*.bin your ran a command and you get the .deb that's all
[02:49] <riri> i want to know why i have problems
[02:49] <riri> yes
[02:49] <Kmirno> riri: It might be the package, it was done on breezy
[02:50] <riri> but i can get the gz one too ?
[02:50] <dein> there was a recent update to the core system
[02:50] <Kmirno> riri: I didn't update PLF for months
[02:50] <dein> like 2 hours ago maybe
[02:50] <riri> ok
[02:50] <dein> maybe that broke it?
[02:50] <Kmirno> BTW any volonteer to update PLF packages for dapper ?
[02:50] <riri> i tried this morning about 11h here in france
[02:50] <dein> plf?
[02:51] <Kmirno> riri: (Salut a va sinon ? passe le bonjour)
[02:51] <Kadran> hi i try to rename some mp3 with musicbrainz and it says that mp3 is not supported?? how it could be
[02:51] <Kmirno> dein: yes PLF
[02:51] <dein> whats that?
[02:51] <Kmirno> Kadran: you need extra packages
[02:51] <Kmirno> dein: Pinguin liberation Front
[02:51] <dein> ah
[02:51] <Kmirno> dein: we provide packages like w32codecs java libdvdcss2 etc
[02:52] <Kadran> Kmirno: thanks
[02:52] <dein> ooh
[02:52] <dein> sadly i don't know how to package stuff yet
[02:52] <riri> is easyubuntu on plf ?
[02:52] <Riddell> Kadran: musicbrainz is compiled without mp3 support, you need to recompile it
[02:53] <Kadran> Riddell: how to do this?
[02:54] <Kadran> Riddell: is there is something that i should install to support mp3?
[02:54] <Riddell> Kadran: no, it needs to be recompiled
[02:54] <Kmirno> riri: easyubuntu is a separated project, hosted on freecontrib, but not run by the same people .. well not anymore. They do use PLF repositories thought
[02:54] <Riddell> Kmirno: you are PLF?
[02:54] <riri> do i put the plf repos in sources.lst ?
[02:54] <Kadran> Riddell: ok thanks i will try it :)
[02:54] <Kmirno> Riddell: Hi ! long time not seen ya.
[02:55] <Kmirno> Riddell: yes i'm ashamed I'm maintaining PLF
[02:55] <Riddell> Kmirno: libtunepimp and musicbrainz packages with mp3 support would be a useful addition
[02:55] <Kmirno> Riddell: submit of this packages would be greatly apreciated :)
[02:56] <monad> hi... i'm having serious trouble with a machine running kubuntu here at work. i ran a full upgrade via adept, which didn't succeed, suggesting there were probably some dependecies broken or something, so it aborted without further ado. now after a reboot, it says there's no ide1, modules.dep was not found and nothing boots.
[02:56] <monad> what can i do?
[02:56] <dein> gah, i cant figure out how to get java functioning in firefox
[02:56] <monad> i don't want to install a whole new system
[02:57] <Kmirno> Riddell: To tell the truth I'm a so pityfull packager.. i didn't even touch the repositories for 5 months
[02:57] <dein> do i have to move a plugin from the java folder just created by the .bin file?
[02:57] <Kmirno> Riddell: I didn't even put a amd64 and dapper repos up
[02:57] <LeeJunFan> dein: dapper?
[02:57] <dein> yes
[02:58] <LeeJunFan> dein: install sun-java5-plugin
[02:58] <LeeJunFan> dein: that's all you should have to do.
[02:58] <dein> its not working right now for some reason
[02:59] <monad> hello...? can anyone help me?
[03:00] <dein> leejunfan: there was a ubuntu core update or something very recently
[03:00] <LeeJunFan> dein: update-alternatives --config firefox-java-plugin.so
[03:00] <dein> could that have broke these packages?
[03:00] <riri> Kmirno: i think it's ok now
[03:01] <riri> at list it 's downlaoding
[03:01] <LeeJunFan> dein: my system is up to date, and java is working.
[03:01] <Kmirno> riri: cool
[03:01] <riri> it's my fault
[03:01] <riri> i mixed up with all repos
[03:01] <Kmirno> monad: Hi I have apples you want some ?
[03:01] <dein> what did you do to fix yours riri?
[03:01] <LeeJunFan> dein: or at least it's loading, typing about:plugins in firefox location shows it's loaded.
[03:01] <riri> well
[03:01] <riri> i hadn't plf repos
[03:02] <riri> so i just copy in sources.lst
[03:02] <dein> i have the universe and mulitverse repos
[03:02] <LeeJunFan> dein: I think you aren't talking about the same thing riri is.
[03:02] <riri> at the moment it's downloading
[03:02] <riri> yes
[03:02] <Kmirno> dein: you're trying to install j2re1.4 from ubuntu multiverse repos I think
[03:03] <LeeJunFan> dein: you only need universe for the sun java packages as the licensing changed and it's now included in universe.
[03:03] <monad> Kmirno: well thanks for the apples, but can you also tell me why dpgk --configure -a broke my system
[03:03] <Kmirno> dein: riri is installing sun-j2re from plf repositories
[03:03] <Kmirno> monad: 'cause it's dpkg
[03:03] <Kmirno> monad: you know debien packaging system
[03:03] <kosh> LeeJunFan: probably get removed from universe though, the license is less free then the previous one
[03:04] <LeeJunFan> crap.
[03:04] <dein> well im trying to install either sun-java5-bin or j2re.14
[03:04] <riri> lol don't say that
[03:04] <monad> i DON'T CARE... i just want to be able to boot that machine again to at least get the data off it
[03:04] <riri> virgin's eaaar around
[03:04] <Kmirno> dein: wy don't you try sun-j2re1.5 from plf ?
[03:04] <monad> then i'll gladly flip in the install cd again
[03:04] <Kmirno> monad: ah you can't even boot ?
[03:04] <Kmirno> monad: you can get your data by booting a livecd
[03:04] <dein> im new to kubuntu, and i don't really know how to add repositories
[03:05] <monad> Kmirno: sez that modules.dep is missing and switches toa rudimentary shell
[03:05] <riri> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/PLF
[03:05] <dein> recently migrated from suse
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> monad: you perhaps you can choose to install the system but don't format the drive? Not the cleanest way but it should work.
[03:05] <riri> read this dein
[03:05] <swoke> Hello, can someone help me to get a konqueror profile for midnight commander ? I don't have default one... :(
[03:05] <monad> LeeJunFan: if only i'd understand this parition manager on the install cd...
[03:06] <riri> that's what i am doing
[03:06] <Kmirno> dein: sudo cat "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[03:06] <dein> kk
[03:07] <Kmirno> monad: I recommend you try cfdisk it's in ncuse (console based graphical huhu) it's really easy to use and self explanatory
[03:07] <Kmirno> ncurse*
[03:07] <riri> Kmirno:  parameter done
[03:08] <riri> Kmirno: test done ok
[03:08] <monad> Kmirno: i just booted the install cd, but when i get to my existing partition table and say that it should just take it, it says that no root fs was found. wtf?
[03:08] <Kmirno> monad: hu ?
[03:08] <Kmirno> monad: follo the following :
[03:08] <Kmirno> monad: 1 boot livecd
[03:08] <Kmirno> monad: 2 open kosole
[03:09] <Kmirno> monad: get root (with su or sudo su depends on the livecd)
[03:09] <Kmirno> monad: type mkdir mydata
[03:09] <riri> Kmirno:  what the command for flashplayer ?
[03:09] <Kmirno> monad: then type mount /dev/whateveryourpartitionis mydata
[03:09] <Kmirno> monad: get your data back
[03:09] <Kmirno> monad: then reinstall
[03:09] <dein> kmirno, i keep getting permission denied
[03:10] <riri> apt-get install flashplayer ?
[03:10] <riri> dein
[03:10] <Kmirno> monad: you can use cfdisk /dev/yourhdd to create/delete paritions on the drive
[03:10] <riri> do you sudo ?
[03:10] <dein> ya
[03:10] <Kmirno> dein: get rid of the 1.4 broken package first
[03:10] <dein> k
[03:11] <riri> Kmirno: flashplayer ?
[03:11] <Kmirno> riri: hum not named that way anymore i don't remember how tought
[03:11] <riri> lol
[03:11] <Kmirno> riri: try sudo aptitude search flash
[03:11] <riri> ok
[03:11] <dein> ok now it says theres no such directory ; ;
[03:12] <dein> im running as su now btw
[03:12] <riri> riri@one:~/easyubuntu$ sudo aptitude search flash
[03:12] <riri> i   flashplugin-nonfree             - Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer
[03:12] <riri> p   flashybrid                      - automates use of a flash disk as the root
[03:12] <riri> p   libflash-dev                    - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - development file
[03:12] <riri> i   libflash-mozplugin              - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatib
[03:12] <riri> p   libflash-swfplayer              - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - stand-alone play
[03:12] <riri> i   libflash0c2                     - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - shared library
[03:12] <riri> p   libroxen-flash2                 - Flash2 module for the Roxen Challenger web
[03:12] <riri> p   newsflash                       - gets news with the newnews command from a
[03:12] <riri> p   vrflash                         - tool to flash kernels and romdisks to Agen
[03:12] <riri> riri@one:~/easyubuntu$
[03:12] <riri> which one is ?
[03:12] <Kmirno> flashplugin-nonfree
[03:12] <Hobbsee> riri: do not paste!
[03:12] <Hobbsee> !paste
[03:12] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[03:12] <Kmirno> riri: seems already installed
[03:13] <riri> ok
[03:15] <dein> i keep getting permission denied ><
[03:16] <riri> did you look if you haven't already a process working ?
[03:16] <riri> su and sudo isn't the same
[03:18] <dein> ok it wasnt to install java bin and jre
[03:18] <dein> is there a way to purge those packages?
[03:20] <riri> try sudo apt-get clean ?
[03:20] <dein> ok i fixed that problem
[03:20] <riri> or synaptic
[03:20] <riri> in menu borken linl
[03:20] <riri> ok
[03:20] <dein> sun-java5-plugin installed
[03:20] <riri> i am not an expert :)
[03:20] <dein> and was missing its brothers
[03:20] <riri> ok
[03:20] <dein> i removed it since i cant get sun-java5-bin to install
[03:21] <riri> are you in dapper ?
[03:21] <dein> yes
[03:21] <riri> did you try plf ?
[03:21] <dein> im entering this in my terminal
[03:21] <dein> sudo cat "deb ftp://spirit.bentel.sk/mirrors/plf/ breezy free non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:21] <dein> and i get permission denied
[03:22] <dein> any idea what im doing wrong?
[03:22] <riri> get it with kwrite or kate ?
[03:22] <dein> k
[03:23] <riri> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.lst
[03:23] <riri> list
[03:23] <riri> sorru
[03:23] <riri> sorry
[03:23] <HymnToLife> please use kdesu to run kate
[03:23] <Hobbsee> !kdesu
[03:23] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.
[03:23] <HymnToLife> !kdesu
[03:23] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:24] <riri> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/PLF
[03:24] <riri> ok
[03:24] <riri> thanks
[03:24] <dein> ok too late but i will next time
[03:24] <riri> sorry dein
[03:24] <riri> i am not expert
[03:24] <dein> np
[03:24] <dein> neither am i
[03:25] <riri> i have done it with this linl
[03:25] <riri> and now i have java working
[03:25] <riri> link
[03:25] <riri> you will copy the repos in your source.list
[03:25] <dein> what packages did you download?
[03:25] <riri> and then apt-get update
[03:26] <riri>  sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 w32codecs sun-j2re1.5
[03:26] <riri> only sun
[03:26] <riri> if you don't want the other
[03:26] <dein> ok one sec
[03:26] <riri> but i need codec too
[03:27] <dein> i shoulda done this in adept
[03:27] <riri> read the link i gave you and put it in favorite !
[03:27] <riri> no
[03:27] <riri> do it manually
[03:27] <riri> except if you know well adept which i don't
[03:27] <dein> i did, and i messed adept up bad
[03:28] <riri> you did it manually ?
[03:28] <dein> a
[03:28] <dein> ya
[03:29] <riri> have you an email address ?
[03:29] <dein> ya just a sec
[03:29] <riri> i could send you my sources.list
[03:29] <riri> and you could compare
[03:30] <dein> one sec
[03:30] <riri> ok
[03:30] <dein> i gotta kill a whole bunch of adept processes
[03:30] <riri> lol
[03:30] <riri> viel spass
[03:31] <riri> i guess that why you are blocked
[03:31] <dein> ok that should fix it
[03:31] <dein> yay its alive again!
[03:32] <dein> ya its much easier to add in adept
[03:32] <dein> all i have to do is write the line down and click add
[03:32] <dein> and then my computer doesnt start spitting up blood
[03:33] <riri> ok
[03:33] <riri> if you like
[03:33] <riri> but i prefer sudo apt-get
[03:33] <riri> i know what i do :) lol
[03:33] <riri> and many explanation are this way
[03:37] <riri> Kmirno: where is the ubuntu list ?
[03:37] <riri> is it the same as kubuntu ?
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> I installed kweather using adept but I dont see it on the taskbar
[03:38] <Kmirno> Jack_Sparrow: you need to added it to the taskbar if you want it there
[03:38] <hastesaver> riri, what list are you looking for?
[03:38] <dein> maybe something's wrong with the universe packages of java
[03:38] <Kmirno> Jack_Sparrow: rightclick add appelet
[03:38] <riri> ubuntu mailing list
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> But I dont see it listed anywhere
[03:38] <dein> because the packages from plf installed just fine
[03:39] <Kmirno> riri: sorry ?
[03:39] <riri> it's ok
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry got it
[03:39] <Kmirno> riri: no idea i'm not part of it.. too much mail . and'ive already few thousands unread mail in the mailbox
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> I kept looking for prog
[03:39] <riri> i just wanted to know where is ubuntu mailing list
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Thank you
[03:40] <riri> ok
[03:40] <riri> i am kubuntu
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> I am on second day of KU
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Nice
[03:40] <riri> but it's true too many mails
[03:40] <riri> i am on 5th day and still liking it more
[03:40] <Kmirno> riri: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
[03:40] <Kmirno> riri this is th elist
[03:41] <riri> ok
[03:41] <riri> it seems to be the same i am in
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> I do miss frozenbubble.. wife will want it
[03:41] <riri> jack : i even delete xp ! lol
[03:42] <riri> i am trying to convince wife to kub
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> KUis only thing on thos lappy
[03:42] <dein> gah now to get flash working
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry need keyboard
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[03:43] <aseigo> blurble
[03:43] <riri> dein sudo aptitude search flash
[03:44] <dein> ok i got it installed, but its... weird
[03:46] <dein> flash quality is poor at best and very laggy
[03:46] <dein> and menus are missing
[03:46] <riri> yes me too
[03:46] <riri> i guess old version
[03:47] <dein> according to the version number its fully up to date >,0
[03:47] <dein> weird
[03:47] <riri> yes
[03:47] <riri> my installation on test page block firefox
[04:05] <froggy_> hello all
[04:05] <froggy_> what is the diference betwen ubuntu and kubuntu ?
[04:06] <hayward> Hey is anyone out there using a Toshiba Satellite with an ATI Radeon Card and is having trouble with constant crashes
[04:06] <monad> hi... so i set up a whole new system. during installation i was told that some packages were not finally configured. now when i run an upgrade in adept, i get error messages all over,. what can i do?
[04:07] <ejos> ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde
[04:07] <hayward> Ubuntu has a standard install of Gnome, but can be configured to run KDE and Kubuntu comes with a standard install of KDE and can be configured to run Gnome
[04:07] <HymnToLife> so basically the only difference is the packages installed by default
[04:07] <hayward> yes for the most part
[04:08] <HymnToLife> is there any other ?
[04:09] <hayward> Well not that I can see, other then the grapical interface, the back end seems to be pretty similar
[04:09] <HymnToLife> it's not "similr"
[04:09] <HymnToLife> it's 100% the same thing
[04:10] <monad> is there a way to find out what is inconsistent?
[04:10] <monad> sorry... i'm new to kubuntu. usually run gentoo
[04:10] <g0dchild> Hi, I am having trouble creating audio cds in kubuntu
[04:10] <hayward> are you getting problems loading mp3s on to a cd?
[04:10] <g0dchild> are there any reported bugs on k3b-? although i dont think its a problem directly related to k3b- had the same result with gnomebaker
[04:10] <g0dchild> no, i used wav.
[04:11] <g0dchild> tried mp3 to audio cd too...no luck
[04:11] <HymnToLife> g0dchild> you must install k3b-mp3
[04:11] <hayward> thats what i was just about to say ahaha
[04:11] <HymnToLife> or whatever the hell it is called, the plugin to decode mp3 in k3b
[04:11] <GazzaK> and me, as I knew that one :)
[04:11] <monad> oh great
[04:11] <g0dchild> HymnToLife, yes, I searched apt for all the dependencies related to k3b and have each and every recommended package installed
[04:12] <hayward> I think that they are the same from the backend any difference I am not aware of.
[04:12] <hayward> I have used both
[04:12] <HymnToLife> hayward> they re 100% the same
[04:12] <hayward> as i thought they where
[04:13] <hayward> its just the GUI thats different
[04:13] <HymnToLife> the only difference is the GUI installed by default
[04:13] <monad> it seems there is a problem with dpkg - there are several unresolved cross-dependencies, so adept fails. what can i do?
[04:13] <HymnToLife> but you can very well install KDE on Ubuntu and vice versa
[04:14] <HymnToLife> monad> sudo apt-get -f
[04:14] <monad> hymn: what does that do?
[04:15] <HymnToLife> it fixes broken ependencies
[04:15] <HymnToLife> but man apt-get would have told you ;)
[04:16] <monad> hymntolife: i'm already reading that, thank you. but running solely "apt-get -f" doesn't do anything
[04:16] <hayward> ahaha WTFM is the best thing anyone ever told me :D
[04:16] <chavo> it's apt-get -f install
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> what is the defaultfirewall?
[04:17] <monad> is there a way to reset the sources.list?
[04:17] <HymnToLife> !firewall
[04:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> thank you
[04:18] <HymnToLife> monad> what do you mean ? reset it to default ?
[04:18] <monad> nevermind, fixed that.
[04:18] <hayward> you can edit your sources in the atept KDE program
[04:18] <monad> now when i run apt-get -f install, i get following msgs:
[04:18] <HymnToLife> !pastebin
[04:18] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[04:18] <monad> gij-4.0
[04:18] <monad>  libgnujaxp-java
[04:18] <monad>  libjessie-java
[04:18] <monad>  java-gcj-compat
[04:18] <monad>  libgnucrypto-java
[04:19] <monad> i know
[04:19] <monad> it's just four lines
[04:19] <HymnToLife> four lines is consiered flooding by some people
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> what if I dont find it in the synaptic list
[04:19] <monad> some people are easily offended... but sorry, won't happen again
[04:19] <hayward> I always thought a Dam break caused flooding....ahaha who knew!
[04:20] <HymnToLife> Jack_Sparrow> you're probably missing a repo
[04:20] <HymnToLife> !info firestarter
[04:20] <ubotu> firestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 384 kB, Installed size: 1904 kB
[04:20] <monad> someone speaking german here? cause the error msgs are in german
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[04:20] <hayward> ahahah NIEN!
[04:20] <HymnToLife> !de
[04:20] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:20] <monad> is there?
[04:20] <monad> thanks
[04:21] <HymnToLife> Ich kann auch ein Bisschen Deutsch sprechen :p
[04:21] <monad> zet, my friend, vill lead yoo to world domination, ja
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> where do I type !info firestarter
[04:23] <HymnToLife> here :)
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !info firestarter
[04:23] <HymnToLife> you can also /msg ubotu info firestarter
[04:23] <ubotu> firestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 384 kB, Installed size: 1904 kB
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> I used firestarter once beforejust cant find it with adept or synaptic
[04:24] <HymnToLife> do you have Universe enabled ?
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Insynaptic
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> onesec
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !info universe
[04:26] <HymnToLife> !universe
[04:26] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:26] <hayward> So what kinds of systems are people running Kubuntu on?
[04:26] <HymnToLife> info is to get info on a specific package
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[04:32] <Nightrose> hi ive got a problem installing tvbrowser - it needs java5-jre installed but i cant install it
[04:32] <eqisow> why can't you install it?
[04:33] <Nightrose> i get the following in shell:
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> That linkis great except in synaptic I dont have a button to select that willshow disabled software sources
[04:33] <Nightrose> sun-java5-bin: Depends: sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-06-1) but it is not going to be installed
[04:33] <Nightrose>   tvbrowser: Depends: sun-java5-jre but it is not going to be installed or
[04:33] <Nightrose>                       sun-j2re1.5 but it is not installable or
[04:33] <Nightrose>                       sun-j2se6.0-jre-binary but it is not installable
[04:33] <Nightrose> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[04:34] <Nightrose> i tried -f but got the same
[04:34] <paperangel> what proggy you using?
[04:34] <eqisow> hmm
[04:34] <paperangel> i mean
[04:34] <paperangel> that isnt working
[04:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> Nightrose, make sure  multiverse is enabled
[04:36] <Nightrose> Kamping_Kaiser:  do i have to change source.list for that?
[04:36] <Nightrose> and if - what do i have to change?
[04:36] <eqisow> Nightrose, are you on Dapper or Breezy?
[04:37] <load> hobbsee: you there?
[04:37] <Hobbsee> load: for about the next 30 seconds, yes.
[04:37] <load> hobbsee: that kopete patch works great
[04:37] <Nightrose> dapper
[04:37] <Hobbsee> load: okay, cool.  from what i've heard, it doesnt seem to be needed on dapper...
[04:38] <eqisow> http://thepiratecove.org/files/sources.list
[04:38] <eqisow> copy and paste the contents of mine if you want
[04:38] <load> yeah, if dapper is using >= 12.0 then it should be ok
[04:38] <eqisow> I've got pretty much everything there
[04:38] <Nightrose> thx a lot eqisow
[04:38] <hayward> Nightrose are you having trouble installing Sun Java?
[04:38] <load> rather 0.12.0
[04:38] <Nightrose> jep
[04:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee, your off? later then
[04:39] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah
[04:39] <imbrandon> time for bed, gnight all
[04:39] <Hobbsee> load: it's not
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> later imbrandon
[04:39] <hayward> ok hold on I have an easy how to, for installing sun java
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> try doc.ubuntu.com ;)
[04:39] <imbrandon> !sun-java5-jre
[04:39] <Hobbsee> eqisow: do NOT give that link out.
[04:39] <ubotu> it has been said that sun-java5-jre is ... to install Suns Java enable multiverse and universe repositories and type "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" in a terminal
[04:40] <eqisow> why's that Hobbs?
[04:40] <Hobbsee> !tell Nightrose about repos
[04:40] <Hobbsee> eqisow: if you give him those links, you *will* eventually break his system.
[04:40] <hayward> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148075&highlight=Sun+Java+Runtime
[04:40] <n3storm> hi everyone
[04:40] <hayward> yup thats the one I am telling him about
[04:40] <n3storm> I really need the normal konqueror
[04:41] <eqisow> I'm afraid I don't see how, it's the file I use on every dapper install I do
[04:41] <n3storm> does anybody knows how to turn kubuntu changes off for konqueror?
[04:41] <Hobbsee> eqisow: because it ends up having different dependancies in each repo, and you *will* eventually get problems
[04:41] <hayward> I have been running it for a while now with no problems
[04:41] <n3storm> I am lookin on google, but it looks like I don't find the proper words
[04:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee, particularly on upgrade
[04:42] <Hobbsee> lucky...
[04:42] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: ouch, yeah.
[04:42] <n3storm> I need the integrated konsole
[04:42] <jeroenvrp> does anyone know why my main-user's local-mail is going to /var/spool/mail/jeroen an all other users (I made them today) to ~/mbox ??
[04:42] <Hobbsee> eqisow: hayward like i said, eventually - most likely when there's a massive upgrade....
[04:42] <jeroenvrp> corr: and all other users....
[04:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> jeroenvrp, for the record, its going into /var/mail, the spool dir is a symlink
[04:43] <hayward> I have gone though several massive upgrades since i first installed Java and nothing has gone wrong, I think it is just a warning, it might effect specif packages that I don't have installed
[04:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> and why i cant be srue, have you changed your mail server?
[04:43] <jeroenvrp> Kamping_Kaiser: oh yeah, but the question is still there :-
[04:44] <pm> will dapper have kde 3.5.3?
[04:44] <chavo> n3storm, what exactly do you need from konq
[04:44] <jeroenvrp> Kamping_Kaiser: where is it configured?
[04:44] <chavo> pm, no
[04:44] <imbrandon> pm , possibly
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> is there a tool for monitoring system temp
[04:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> jeroenvrp, you would ahve to actively change it
[04:44] <jeroenvrp> in the user-directory or on postfix-level
[04:44] <n3storm> chavo the integrated terminal
[04:44] <Hobbsee> pm: no
[04:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> postfix level
[04:44] <eqisow> It will be released with 3.5.2, but kubuntu.org always releases new KDE packages
[04:44] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: no
[04:44] <jeroenvrp> Kamping_Kaiser: what is the defaultr?
[04:45] <pm> chavo: i think they should wait a couple of days in order to include it
[04:45] <hayward> I use Kubuntu for a POint of Sale System which I use Tina POS and it requires MYSQL and SUn Java, so it has been working fine
[04:45] <chavo> n3storm, it's still there you can add a toolbarbutton
[04:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> jeroenvrp, not sure actualy. my mail pulled a simiar trick (it looks like), but it started going to ~/mbox then moved into /var. i havent spent the time to work it out
[04:45] <n3storm> chavo: mm, looking
[04:46] <jeroenvrp> ok thanks Kamping_Kaiser - someone else!?
[04:46] <chavo> I can't remember if there's a keyboard shortcut though
[04:46] <n3storm> chavo it works, many thanks
[04:46] <chavo> np
[04:47] <pm> people at kubuntu.org do a good job releasing new packages of kde even before official premiere of this de
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow>  Question:  is there a tool for monitoring system temp
[04:47] <pm> i've go kde 3.5.3. already :)
[04:47] <pm> i've got*
[04:48] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:48] <Hobbsee> Jack_Sparrow: imsensors and ksensors, i think
[04:48] <imbrandon> heh
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks quirky laptop
[04:51] <eqisow> pm, where'd you get it from? has kubuntu.org released it?
[04:51] <eqisow> I don't see it on their site
[04:51] <Hobbsee> eqisow: if not, it will soon...
[04:51] <Hobbsee> eqisow: PM?
[04:51] <hayward> what is the release date for the new KDE anyway?
[04:51] <Hobbsee> hayward: which one?
[04:51] <pm> there are packages although there's no official info yet
[04:52] <Hobbsee> 3.5.3 is somewhere in the next couple of weeks, 3.5.4 is in july sometime, 4.0 is ages awya
[04:52] <imbrandon> eqisow, its not "quite" released yet on kubuntu.org , keep looking throughout the day though *hint*  ......... gnight all for real this time
[04:52] <pm> kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 as far as i remember the link
[04:52] <hayward> mmh ok
[04:53] <pm> eqisow: dapper version only though
[04:53] <Hobbsee> eqisow: i know you cant reply, you'll have to register for that, but see your PM's...
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks Ksensor way just what I wanted
[04:54] <eqisow> will do, thanks hobbsee
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Lappy is running at 46'
[04:54] <uscg_corey> anyone familiar with Konversation ?
[04:55] <Hobbsee> uscg_corey: yes
[04:55] <uscg_corey> well i want some commands to run after i connect to a server, but the connect commands in konversation execute while its connecting which wont work..was wondering how i can make 2 or 3 commands run when im connected to server automatically
[04:56] <Hobbsee> hmmm...i dont know that much....
[04:56] <pm> it's at least the third time kubuntu packages are available before the official release of kde
[04:56] <uscg_corey> ;/ me either
[04:56] <uscg_corey> i dont know why it does that
[04:56] <Hobbsee> pm: shh :P  havent you noticed who does the releases for both of them though?
[04:56] <uscg_corey> i was hoping there was like a "wait" comman or a timer function, but i cant find anything
[04:57] <pm> Hobbsee: no?
[04:57] <pm> who?
[04:58] <Hobbsee> pm: it usually gets tested around here a bit first - just to check that it works
[04:58] <Hobbsee> actually, the guy who ends up releasing it, and the guy who writes the annoucement up on the webpage for kde are different, i think...
[05:04] <Nightrose> !tell Nightrose about repos
[05:11] <buzzer> kann mir hier jemand helfen
[05:11] <buzzer> ich komme nicht ins internet wenn ich eine verschlsselung anmache (wpe,...)
[05:11] <HymnToLife> !de
[05:11] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[05:11] <buzzer> ich habe wlan
[05:12] <HymnToLife> Hier sprechen Sie nur Englisch, danke :)
[05:12] <buzzer> sry
[05:12] <XVampireX> Hey, have you people seen: http://www.linuxtoys.net/toys2.html
[05:12] <XVampireX> Especially project #5
[05:12] <hayward> So does anyone know how to get KDE then? Is it released or is it still not released?
[05:13] <XVampireX> KDE4?
[05:13] <kosh> sudo apt-get install kde
[05:13] <XVampireX> Kubuntu = kde
[05:13] <HymnToLife> !kde
[05:13] <XVampireX> If you're running ubuntu then do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:13] <HymnToLife> !kde
[05:13] <hayward> no the new kde 3.5
[05:14] <XVampireX> That's old
[05:14] <HymnToLife> stupid bot, the info is not for me..
[05:14] <hayward> 3.5.3
[05:14] <hayward> sorry
[05:14] <Nightrose> im still tying to install java5-jre - im using this sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 - is there anyting i need to change?
[05:14] <XVampireX> That's present, not new
[05:14] <hayward> oh ok
[05:14] <XVampireX> new is KDE4
[05:14] <hayward> for some reason i thought there was a new relase i was not told about ahah
[05:14] <chavo> hayward, do you want to test 3.5.3?
[05:14] <HymnToLife> do we have any release date for it btw ?
[05:15] <XVampireX> Yeah, sometime Q3 2006
[05:15] <hayward> how do i check what version of KDE i have now
[05:15] <kosh> dpkg -l | grep kdelibs
[05:15] <chavo> the packages are done, but waiting for more testing till announcemnet
[05:15] <hayward> so decemberish 2006
[05:15] <HymnToLife> hayward> Help > About KDE in any KDE app
[05:15] <XVampireX> hayward: yes
[05:15] <XVampireX> You can get it from CVS if you want, but not recommended
[05:15] <chavo> actually there are packages done already
[05:16] <XVampireX> Still, not recommended
[05:16] <hayward> Yes i have 3.5.2 installed at the moment
[05:16] <hayward> is 3.5.3 stable ?
[05:16] <XVampireX> I thought it was 3.5.2 oh well
[05:17] <chavo> hayward, just wait till the official announcemnet on kubuntu.org
[05:17] <hayward> oh ok cool cool thanks alot
[05:19] <XVampireX> Anyway: http://www.linuxtoys.net/toys2.html
[05:19] <XVampireX> Anyone seen these?
[05:19] <XVampireX> I think linux should be marketed as a powerful operating system
[05:20] <XVampireX> and ubuntu/kubuntu as making power be easily accessible
[05:20] <eqisow> right, I'm sure Canonical will include that in their next TV spot ;)
[05:21] <n3storm> hi again
[05:21] <eqisow> hey n3storm
[05:21] <hayward> Linux is allready a powerful OS, it pretty much controls the internet, i beleive you mean making it a DESKTOP OS powerhouse to distroy M$
[05:21] <n3storm> do you know if I can see what kind of RAM I have installed with Kubuntu?
[05:22] <eqisow> K Menu --> System --> KInfoCenter
[05:24] <XVampireX> hayward: I mean that people think linux isn't powerful enough
[05:24] <hayward> not at all, those who know know it is quite powerful, there is stuff i could only dream of doing in MS that is possible in linux
[05:25] <XVampireX> I know, starting with mythtv, asterisk, that project #5 on that page :D and 3d desktop and so on and on and on
[05:26] <hayward> Linux has had 3d desktops now for a few years , and its only a dream of MS to have such ablities, that is what vi$ta is doing
[05:27] <XVampireX> Yup
[05:27] <kosh> 3d desktops have existed since jurassic park, however NOBODY uses them because they suck
[05:27] <XVampireX> Heh
[05:29] <XVampireX> Anyone know any other possibilities with linux? I like all the different toys.......
[05:29] <kosh> well my main thing is doing database work
[05:29] <kosh> the windows boxes I have worked on basically collapsed during the testing phases
[05:30] <Kmirno> kosh: exactly
[05:31] <XVampireX> Heh
[05:32] <XVampireX> Is there any software for linux that teaches languages? (Not programming, but for example.... japanese)
[05:32] <kosh> no idea, never looked :)
[05:32] <kosh> I don't like human langauges, I like computer ones and eventually I want some kind of neural interface :)
[05:33] <aseigo> XVampireX: hm.. depends on what you mean by "teaches"
[05:33] <aseigo> XVampireX: there are a handful of apps in the kdeedu module that help out with learning japanese, latin, etc..
[05:33] <XVampireX> kosh: What do you mean by neural interface?
[05:34] <XVampireX> aseigo: Yeah, long time ago I installed kdeedu, they were nice, but I think I had to download things for kdeedu programs to work
[05:35] <XVampireX> I mean, to have anything useful
[05:40] <hayward_> Hello All I am Back
[05:41] <hayward_> Kubuntu Crashed
[05:41] <XVampireX> Welcome back
[05:41] <XVampireX> irony
[05:41] <hayward_> Indeed..aaha thats what happens when your Beta
[05:41] <XVampireX> Heh
[05:42] <hayward_> So yes i know that Jurassic Park had 3d desktops but I mean Linux had then avalibal for many years now, Microsoft on the other hand act as though they invented it, altough they did not!
[05:44] <XVampireX> They didn't invent it and they never even invented the concept of operating system
[05:44] <hayward_> oh i know, rent the movie pirates of silocon valley
[05:45] <hayward_> its such a good movie...god bless steve Jobs
[05:45] <hayward_> ahhaa and fuck Bill Gates
[05:45] <hayward_> ahaha
[05:46] <XVampireX> So any other linux toys
[05:48] <hayward_> I like this gallery thing...I think i might use it on my Community Centres Website
[05:49] <XVampireX> hehe
[05:50] <hayward_> well i am off later days
[05:50] <kosh> actually I think we would be worse off if apple had the monopoly that microsoft does
[05:51] <kosh> I like the way they behave even less
[05:51] <eeos> hi there. what are you using for voip phone calls / sip calls under kde in kubuntu?
[05:51] <kosh> eeos: nothing :)
[05:52] <eeos> kosh: well, theay are lot less expensive than normal phones.
[05:53] <XVampireX> http://freegamer.blogspot.com/
[05:54] <XVampireX> eeos: Skype/Gizmo-Project
[05:54] <XVampireX> Soon kopete/gaim-vv
[05:54] <eeos> kosh: what is kopete gaim-vv?
[05:55] <eeos> XVampireX: sorry,
[05:55] <eeos> XVam. I meant to answer you
[05:55] <XVampireX> What?
[05:55] <XVampireX> Ah
[05:55] <kosh> eeos: I use a normal phone about 20 minutes/year
[05:55] <XVampireX> kopete is the KDE Instant Messenger
[05:55] <eeos> I know kopete and gaim
[05:56] <XVampireX> gaim-vv is gaim that supports phone and video
[05:56] <kosh> eeos: I use email for most things along with irc
[05:56] <XVampireX> kopete adds support for libjingle in 0.12
[05:56] <eeos> well, I need something for when we want to meet customers online
[05:56] <XVampireX> gaim-vv is integrated into main gaim
[05:56] <XVampireX> use gizmo-project
[05:57] <XVampireX> www.gizmoproject.com
[05:58] <eeos> looking at it now
[05:59] <XVampireX> If you really want to get into VoIP, use asterisk
[05:59] <XVampireX> www.asterisk.org
[06:00] <eeos> well, asterisk is not a client
[06:00] <eeos> if I understand well is a pbx
[06:00] <kosh> hmm it seems for talking to customers that a regular phone is the best
[06:00] <eeos> Gittmo does not look like opensource
[06:01] <XVampireX> You want open source? There's wengophone
[06:01] <kosh> I have been at other places and the line quality of voip has not been very good compared to a regular land line
[06:01] <eeos> kosh: our costs seem to disagree with you :-D
[06:01] <McNutella> since people in #konversation aint listening.. does anyone in here know how to stop MOTD happening with the program ???
[06:02] <kosh> eeos: how far away from your customers are you?
[06:02] <eeos> aything between 50 miles and 2500.
[06:02] <eeos> with suppliers at anything between 50 and 15000
[06:02] <eeos> :-D
[06:03] <kosh> so it should be pennies per minute at most, depending on what you do that should add up to squat
[06:03] <eeos> which adds up to loooots of money / month
[06:04] <XVampireX> If you want true open source, use asterisk
[06:04] <XVampireX> I need fmod
[06:04] <kosh> just seems strange since land lines seem very cheap
[06:04] <XVampireX> Anyone knows where to get it for linux/kubuntu?
[06:05] <kosh> however for what we do we charge about $80-$200/hour and sometimes a fair bit more
[06:07] <XVampireX> Does anyone know about where to get fmod for linux?
[06:07] <XVampireX> nevermind, I'm stupid
[06:08] <eeos> XVampireX: what is fmod?
[06:09] <dickhall> morning, all (in PST/PDT at least)
[06:10] <XVampireX> eeos: audio library for games
[06:10] <ninHer> hi all
[06:10] <eeos> trying to find it for my system (mandriva) but I cannot
[06:10] <XVampireX> www,fmod.org
[06:10] <eeos> have ou tried www.rpmseek.com, in the debian packages section
[06:12] <XVampireX> nevermind
[06:15] <froggy_> hello
[06:16] <froggy_> can enyone help me with a network job?
[06:16] <froggy_> i need to make a small network betwen 2 computers
[06:16] <froggy_> and use internet
[06:17] <lwizardl> how do I manually add a new rsa key to known hosts?
[06:19] <froggy_> can anybody help
[06:20] <dickhall> froggy_: does one of the computers have two network cards? or do you have a router
[06:22] <froggy_> one computer used a usb to input the modem
[06:23] <lwizardl> i had to redo a server and now I can't ssh into the box since the key rsa changed. I have the new key on my other monitor screen. Just need to know how to add it
[06:23] <froggy_> and the network cards to make a connection betwen us
[06:23] <froggy_> dickhall: what can i do ?
[06:28] <froggy_> dickhall: can you help me ?
[06:28] <visik7> how can I disable password manager for konqueror ?
[06:28] <visik7> sites passwords
[06:30] <foodcoman> Morning
[06:32] <foodcoman> kkathman: =)
[06:32] <kkathman> howdy foodcoman :()
[06:33] <XVampireX> Hey, what do you people think, when linux becomes REALLY mainstream (will take over the microsoft market) do you people think that linux will become even more stable and even better than we could ever imagine?
[06:34] <kkathman> XVampireX:  thats more of a discussion to be had in #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:35] <dickhall> sorry, a bit busy at work
[06:36] <foodcoman> Dapper is working well for me.
[06:37] <kkathman> seems reasonably stable, yes...ive had a few issues in compiling tho
[06:37] <kkathman> but factually I havent had time to narrow down if it comes from bugs or from just bad sources :)
[06:37] <XVampireX> No, I mean since it's free/open source, developers will concentrate on adding TONS of features to it
[06:40] <kkathman> XVampireX:  possibly, but its still a discussion for #kubuntu-offtopic not here
[06:42] <XVampireX> cool
[06:45] <_esben> I have a really stupid question... how do I get to the configuration menu in Katapult?
[06:46] <dickhall> right clikc on the slingshot icon in the system tray
[06:47] <dickhall> or bring up katapult (alt+space) then hit control C to bring up the context menu
[06:47] <dickhall> not as configurable as I'd like :(
[06:48] <XVampireX> dickhall: Write a plugin for it
[06:49] <dickhall> XVampireX: yeah, I've done exactly one day of KDE programming, but that'll likely be my first "real" OSS program I hack on
[06:49] <dickhall> I haven't looked at the plugin system - not exactly sure what I want to do can be done through plugins
[06:50] <XVampireX> Everything can be done through plugins
[06:52] <[AWAY] NthDegree> wtf @ the katapult
[06:52] <ejos> srsly
[06:56] <dickhall> ah, cool. is the plugin interface C++?
[06:56] <froggy_> dickhall: can you help me ?
[06:57] <dickhall> froggy_: it doesn't sound like your problem has to do with Kubuntu, just with networks in general
[06:57] <froggy_> no
[06:57] <froggy_> i need to know how to configure the network
[06:57] <froggy_> but i must know what dirvers i need to do so
[06:58] <dickhall> I'm not sure then - my networking "just worked", I've never installed networking drivers on linux
[06:59] <NthDegree> froggy_: networking works via DHCP or by manually setting up your IP, Routing, DNS etc.
[07:00] <froggy_> i had windows
[07:00] <NthDegree> froggy_: do you use a USB modem by any chance?
[07:00] <visik7> Where IS the Konqueror Password manager dialog ?!?!?!
[07:01] <aseigo> visik7: "where" meaning "where in the codebase" or "why isn't it showing up" or?"
[07:02] <visik7> the second you say
[07:03] <froggy_> NthDegree:  yes i do
[07:03] <NthDegree> froggy_:  USB modems are hard to set up under linux but I may be able to help (since I used to have that hell of a problem)
[07:04] <NthDegree> froggy_:  is it a speedtouch by any chance?
[07:04] <froggy_> NthDegree: please do
[07:04] <froggy_> NthDegree: no
[07:04] <denni> think locale does not work in ubuntu-6.06-server-amd64 some bugs
[07:04] <froggy_> NthDegree: it's a webstar
[07:04] <NthDegree> froggy_:  ok 1 sec
[07:06] <NthDegree> froggy_;  do you know the exact model etc. it is?
[07:07] <visik7> aseigo: are you able to find it ?
[07:07] <froggy_> no
[07:07] <froggy_> NthDegree: sorry
[07:07] <visik7> aseigo: I don't want that konq ask me each time if I want to store the password, I don'twant to store it
[07:09] <NthDegree> froggy_:  well it isn't easy to set up a USB modem on linux,  my advice is to get an ethernet router (one that supports a Cable/*DSL connection)
[07:09] <froggy_> i don't know the langage
[07:10] <froggy_> i meen those things
[07:10] <NthDegree> ?
[07:10] <froggy_> NthDegree: newermind
[07:11] <NthDegree> froggy_: if you have an ethernet router then your networking should work, i can't really help that much if your hardware isn't well known
[07:11] <Originoo> froggy_: what says windows?
[07:12] <froggy_> i dont have windows
[07:12] <Originoo> cool :)
[07:12] <froggy_> onli kubuntu
[07:12] <Originoo> there should be some readable things on it which may help you
[07:13] <NthDegree> froggy_:  well if you are using kubuntu to chat right now then everything should be near enough ok :)
[07:13] <froggy_> they dont
[07:13] <froggy_> yes, but i have to make another computer acces the net
[07:14] <froggy_> and now i have a ethernet connection
[07:14] <froggy_> i need a usb one
[07:14] <NthDegree> well then you need a router with NAT (Network Address Translation) to link both computers to :)
[07:15] <froggy_> i dont have one
[07:15] <froggy_> cant i use the same hardware that i used in windows?
[07:16] <NthDegree> you can use an ethernet connection and you can use ethernet routers, but USB modems aren't any good on linux
[07:16] <froggy_> damn
[07:16] <froggy_> but if i buy another network card ...will that do?
[07:17] <Originoo> froggy_: maybe you will find out the driver chip with windows first
[07:17] <froggy_> and we connect:
[07:17] <froggy_> me ------ friend
[07:17] <froggy_> me ------- modem
[07:17] <NthDegree> do both PCs have an ethernet slot?
[07:17] <froggy_> yes
[07:18] <NthDegree> then buy a router with 2 slots on it to allow both PCs to access the web
[07:18] <NthDegree> my router has 4 slots for 4 PCs to plug into :)
[07:18] <froggy_> but can i do this with one more ethernet card??
[07:18] <froggy_> i just need one more
[07:19] <NthDegree> I wouldn't say to go get another ethernet card, because that method may be very inefficient, a good router is much better than another ethernet card and a crap modem/router
[07:20] <froggy_> ok
[07:20] <froggy_> 10x
[07:21] <NthDegree> froggy do what works for you because that's the best way
[07:21] <froggy_> ok
[07:22] <NthDegree> but since you don't have to pay for linux or any of it's stuff you might aswell spend the savings on good hardware, to make your life easier
[07:22] <froggy_> yes, i'll do
[07:22] <froggy_> :)
[07:23] <NthDegree> froggy_, so did you ditch windows recently or have you been on kubuntu for a while now?
[07:23] <froggy_> today
[07:24] <DeadS0ul> NthDegree: unless you're in country where pirating software is tolerated like in Hong Kong
[07:24] <DeadS0ul> ..but yeah I barely use windows
[07:25] <NthDegree> I live in the UK and have cracked zonealarm, avast, nod32 and panda myself with basic registry tricks :)
[07:25] <froggy_> hehe
[07:25] <froggy_> nice one NthDegree
[07:26] <NthDegree> but since I haven't used the software for more than it's eval period before ditching it, I haven't broken any laws :D
[07:38] <skipster23> i am trying to create a new folder in my /usr/local/lib called win32 or codecs can anyone help me
[07:38] <Kadran> skipjack: sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/win32
[07:39] <Kadran> skipster23: : sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/win32
[07:39] <Kadran> sorry skipjack
[07:39] <skipster23> alright great i knew i needed superuser access i just didn't know the command to type
[07:40] <Kadran> skipster23: but you may add the win32 library to the apt-get so you can install it easely
[07:40] <skipster23> how
[07:41] <Kadran> hit http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:41] <skipster23> sudo mkdir told me cannot create directory
[07:41] <Kadran> and check Cipherfunk it has win32 codecs
[07:43] <Kadran> i don't know why it made that ? you are now a super user
[07:44] <Kadran> ok let's try this open the url and generate a sources list and add them to the adept :), it 's mush easier
[07:49] <manu38_> hello every body
[07:53] <skipster23> sorry i needed to take care of my kids, ok i opened the url link now what
[07:55] <skipster23> Kadran: i select breezy i386, us, do i check include updates and security updates
[07:57] <Kadran> if you are using pentum and having kubuntu breezy so go ahead and select the update and security update
[07:57] <skipster23> kadran: ok then what
[07:57] <Kadran> skipster23: and remember to choose Cipherfunk
[07:58] <Kadran> skipster23: then click on the generate list button
[07:59] <skipster23> kadran: ok kate opens do i select the deb's and paste them in adept
[08:00] <DeadS0ul> k3b isn't installing on dapper =(
[08:00] <Kadran> skipster23: no just open /etc/apt/sources.list with superuser previlage
[08:01] <Kadran> then replace every thing in the sources.list file with the file created by the site
[08:01] <skipster23> by opening the terminal and typeing what
[08:02] <Kadran> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:03] <Kadran> if you are not familiar with vi just type 'sudo kate'
[08:03] <manu38_> Hi, I have a question...   wich difference beetween key WEP and key WPA,  please ?
[08:03] <DeadS0ul> WPA is stronger encryption
[08:03] <Kadran> skipster23: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:04] <manu38_> ------> 2048 bits ??
[08:04] <manu38_> is it exact ?
[08:04] <zeccoz> hm
[08:05] <manu38_> and the key WEP :  64 to 128 bits
[08:05] <zeccoz> I'm going to compile XChat
[08:06] <apokryphos> zeccoz: why not use konversation? And, why compile?
[08:06] <kkathman> Why not use kvirc :)
[08:06] <kkathman> he he
[08:06] <zeccoz> I'm used to XChat
[08:07] <apokryphos> zeccoz: it's really worth trying the other things out there
[08:07] <zeccoz> and I'm used to compiling
[08:07] <zeccoz> heh
[08:07] <apokryphos> well, is it a different version you want?
[08:07] <zeccoz> I'm already trying it
[08:08] <skipster23> kadran: ok i pasted everything now what
[08:08] <zeccoz> I'm wanting the latest version
[08:08] <zeccoz> form xchat.org
[08:08] <skipster23> kadran: save
[08:08] <Kadran> skipster23: save the file
[08:09] <apokryphos> zeccoz: is .2 not going to be only a bugfix release?
[08:09] <Kadran> skipster23: then type 'sudo apt-get update' and you will see more sources are included
[08:10] <skipster23> kadran: it says "the document could not be saved. as it was not possible to write to file:///ect/apt/sources/list"
[08:10] <zeccoz> I beleve the non-bugfix + the bugfix should work
[08:10] <zeccoz> lemme try
[08:10] <zeccoz> brb
[08:10] <apokryphos> eh?
[08:10] <apokryphos> yup, looks like an only-bugfix jump from 2.6.1 to 2.6.2
[08:11] <Kadran> skipster23: type 'sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list' and see the file again then press save
[08:11] <apokryphos> no, don't do that
[08:11] <apokryphos> !kdesu
[08:11] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.
[08:11] <Kadran> skipster23: make sure that it is the new file :)
[08:12] <apokryphos> Kadran: ...so please don't recommend that :)
[08:12] <alex19> como puedo ver la lista de conectados en este canal?
[08:12] <Kadran> apokryphos: thanks
[08:12] <apokryphos> alex19: Spanish?
[08:13] <Kadran> skipster23: as apokryphos said you will use kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:13] <apokryphos> or Italian, even?
[08:13] <alex19> spanish
[08:13] <apokryphos> !es
[08:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:14] <alex19> #ubuntu-es
[08:14] <skipster23> kadran: now it says kate has crashed
[08:14] <alex19> ??
[08:14] <apokryphos> alex19: type /join #ubuntu-es
[08:14] <alex19> como me cambio a espa??ol?
[08:14] <morrow> !es
[08:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:14] <NthDegree> alex19: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:15] <Kadran> skipster23: ok, just type 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[08:15] <Kadran> skipster23: then paste the list from the site and save it and every thing gonna be ok
[08:17] <skipster23> kadran: same error
[08:18] <iNiku> um... where/how do I set the order that "walk through windows" in KDE works?
[08:19] <iNiku> I have one KDE setup where repeatedly pressing the key combo will switch back and forth between the two most recently used windows
[08:19] <iNiku> and another one where it will walk through them in order so the only way to get back to the previous window is to cycle through them all
[08:19] <iNiku> I've seen the setting for that somewhere but can't find it
[08:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> does anybody have problem with the last fglrx update? my opengl stopped working
[08:22] <NthDegree> wtf lmao
[08:22] <NthDegree> someone called ubuntu :P
[08:25] <dickhall> iNiku: System Settings -> Regional and Accesibilty
[08:25] <dickhall> the keyboard shortcuts are in there
[08:26] <iNiku> dickhall: I know, but I want to change the order it walks through the windows
[08:26] <iNiku> dickhall: I want to switch between the two most recently used windows with just one keypress instead of having to cycle through all of the windows
[08:27] <iNiku> one of my kde setups works like that, the other one doesn't
[08:27] <dickhall> hrm. dunno
[08:28] <dickhall> alt-tab works for me ;)
[08:28] <iNiku> dickhall: yeah, but does it switch between the two most recent windows with one press?
[08:29] <dickhall> yes
[08:29] <iNiku> dickhall: yeah, that's how I want it too... windows-style :)
[08:29] <iNiku> and it works like that on one KDE system here but not on the other one
[08:30] <dickhall> I did nothing to change it,that's been the default any time I've ever used KDE
[08:30] <iNiku> pretty sure I've seen the setting somewhere but I can't remember where.
[08:31] <iNiku> ahh. just have to enable "show window list while switching windows", then it works like that
[08:31] <iNiku> thanks anyway. :)
[08:31] <dickhall> odd
[08:31] <dickhall> heh, glad you fixed it
[08:31] <iNiku> yeah, slightly less than intuitive
[08:32] <didimo> hola a todos
[08:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sorry, somebody can take a look here!!??! i don't understand what's happening..... http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/hW96ft62.html
[08:43] <skipster23> how can i listen to mp3's
[08:43] <dergringo> !mp3
[08:43] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:44] <uwo> is anyone using kxdocker - have a question about mail notification
[08:48] <skipster23> ubotu: everything at this url is for ubuntu not kubuntu
[08:48] <ubotu> okay, skipster23
[08:49] <dergringo> skipster23: ubuntu is nearly equal to kubunto excepting the desktop components
[08:50] <skipster23> so then i would use adept then
[08:50] <dergringo> skipster23: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[08:52] <dergringo> skipster23: or you may prefer to use easyubuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[08:57] <yylex> hello.
[08:57] <dergringo> hi
[08:58] <milian> Hello, does anyone know which file I have to choose in eclipse to use spell checking?
[08:58] <milian> Maybe /usr/bin/ispell ?
[08:59] <milian> Or maybe I misunderstood something...
[08:59] <nox-Hand> Hey
[09:00] <nox-Hand> Does anyone know any desktop video recorders?
[09:00] <nox-Hand> I want to make an xgl demo
[09:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> anybody know what this means?
[09:00] <dergringo> milian: I suggest that you ask this at #eclipse :)
[09:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/hW96ft62.html
[09:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nox-Hand: mhh, yes
[09:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> let me remember the name
[09:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> search something like istambul
[09:01] <milian> dergringo: I'll do that, thanks
[09:01] <dergringo> milian: you're welcome
[09:01] <nox-Hand> istambul?
[09:02] <Kadran> nox-Hand: you can use istanbul
[09:02] <nox-Hand> Kadran, searching
[09:02] <Kadran> it is a session recorder
[09:02] <nox-Hand> Kadran, and it'll record X fine? :)
[09:03] <Kadran> sudo apt-get install istanbul
[09:03] <nox-Hand> Yeah, I sorta guessed ;)
[09:03] <Kadran> nox-Hand: i used to record my kde session and it was good but was alittle bit slow
[09:04] <Kadran> made every thing slow, i may be recording in high quality mode or something
[09:04] <nox-Hand> I wonder how it'll work with xgl :P
[09:09] <nox-Hand> Thanks =)
[09:11] <roslyn> Does ubuntu offer a blank printable calendar?
[09:13] <nox-Hand> |Tom|, Xchat here
[09:13] <nox-Hand> How do I check what processes are running?
[09:13] <|Tom|> err sudo ps -All ?
[09:13] <nox-Hand> Thanks
[09:15] <zeccoz> yoy on xchat but not the latest atm
[09:15] <zeccoz> yay*
[09:16] <zeccoz> brb
[09:19] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:22] <|Tom|> fucking ralink drivers :\
[09:24] <h3sp4wn> |Tom|: I stopped using mine after it stopped working properly (dapper) switched to atheros - you could try the drivers from sourceforge
[09:25] <h3sp4wn> |Tom|: Or you are trying to use network-manager / knetworkmanager (which is not compatible with the drivers)
[09:25] <|Tom|> they WERE stable in Breezy and in Suse 10.0
[09:26] <|Tom|> i think Dapper uses a new version that just screws up the link quality (have to say, better than the new Suse who doesn't even support them anymore)
[09:26] <h3sp4wn> Things change they are not now (there is a bug about it)
[09:26] <|Tom|> nope am not using knetworkmanager ;)
[09:26] <h3sp4wn> Switch to atheros
[09:28] <h3sp4wn> or try the http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page drivers
[09:35] <|Tom|> err i'm using them rt2x00 drivers
[09:39] <Lost_1> Can someone help me with an error I'm getting when I try to configure a program in konsole?
[09:40] <aseigo> Lost_1: not unless you provide some details ;)
[09:40] <Lost_1> :-P
[09:41] <Lost_1> I keep getting a config error that says "C compiler cannot create executables"
[09:41] <uscg_corey> Lost_1:  lookin in the log youll see a package its missing
[09:42] <uscg_corey> or try and apt-get build-essential might fix your problem
[09:43] <uniq> lost_1: install the build-essential package.
[09:46] <Lost_1> w00t! it worked =D
[09:48] <dusty_> Hey guys whats the package name for gtk2.6 I need it installed for development purposes?
[09:51] <grab-box> hi
[09:52] <grab-box> i own a d-link 6520+ wlan card, in dapper flight 7 this card was not supported. Will this be fixed in the final release?
[09:55] <rir1> does someone use flumotion on kubuntu ?
[09:55] <_nano_> grab-box: you do have a work around using ndiswrapper though
[09:55] <rir1> a file "planet.xml" is missing
[09:56] <grab-box> _nano_ no native support as in hoary?
[09:57] <_nano_> grab-box: no i meant even though there's no native support, one could always use ndiswrapper
[09:57] <tom-away> (if you're not on AMD64 that is)
[09:57] <_nano_> grab-box: although I agree, there should be native support for as many cards as possible
[09:58] <grab-box> _nano_ when i use ndiwswrapper...will i loose performance?
[09:58] <_nano_> grab-box: I haven't seen much performance difference, but then I don't know much about the internals of ndiswrapper
[09:59] <_nano_> grab-box: one consolation is that ndiswrapper uses windows driver written by manufacturers...
[09:59] <rir1> no flumotion user ?
[09:59] <rir1> what can be used instead ?
[09:59] <jarl_> rir1: i see it is on prospective packages .. i dont use it .. but I'll look at it now
[09:59] <rir1> i installed it
[10:00] <rir1> but it's asking for a planet.xml
[10:01] <word> apparently sector 64105 on my hd is shot to hell
[10:01] <grab-box> is there a programm that can arrange photos automatically as a slideshow with music and transitions. This arrangement should be burned on cd/dvd and be playable on a dvd-player. Anyone an idea?
[10:03] <word> Open office presentation?
[10:04] <kobb> Hey, I'm trying to get kdevelop3 to run on a new kubuntu install.  When i go to run it it says it cannot find the plug-ins.  Apparently I need to update my kdedirs variable.  The problem is I'm not sure where it should be pointing to.  Any advice?
[10:06] <word> what plugins can it not find? or does it not say?
[10:07] <katerina> help!!! Acer Aspire 3614 no modem on kubuntu
[10:07] <rir1> jarl_ : fluendo people aren't very talkative :) lol
[10:08] <rir1> so the kubuntu version is too old
[10:08] <katerina> prepei mexri avrio na pao ton ypologisti stin adelfi mou!!! den blepei to modem
[10:08] <kobb> It doesn't say what plug-ins it can't find
[10:08] <kobb> I found this thread about my exact problems:
[10:08] <kobb> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kdevelop&m=109983873512892&w=2
[10:08] <_esben> Thanks a ton dickhall :D Worked a charm!
[10:09] <word> kobb: did that provide a solution for you?
[10:09] <kobb> No, the problem is the person suggests he uses /usr/local/kde for his kde-apps, but I'm not sure where to point KDEDIRS on my own computer.
[10:11] <word> do you not have a /usr/local/kde?
[10:13] <kobb> No I don't
[10:13] <kobb> it was something he created himself
[10:13] <kobb> he suggests: Obviously /usr/local/kde should be substituted for your own kde dir location.
[10:13] <kobb> Which is where I'm stuck, since I'm not sure about my own kde dir location.
[10:14] <katerina> help!!! Acer Aspire 3614 no modem on kubuntu
[10:15] <katerina> sorry for my attitude but I must send the laptop tomorrow to my sister...(:
[10:15] <word> kobb: are you on dapper? and what file contains the 'kdedir' that it looks at?
[10:15] <kobb> Yeah I'm on dapper
[10:16] <word> and where are you supposed to specify the kde dir?
[10:16] <kobb> it is just a variable, the command suggested is: export KDEDIRS=/usr/local/kde && kbuildsycoca
[10:17] <kobb> oh
[10:17] <kobb> I think I just solved it
[10:18] <kobb> The problem was I had created a kde directory before issueing the command
[10:18] <kobb> Thanks for the help
[10:18] <word> np
[10:19] <word> yay for kubuntu it's still running even though some of it's system files are in a bad sector w00t...
[10:24] <_nano_> !xorg
[10:24] <ubotu> [xorg]  To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[10:57] <dh> Hello
[10:57] <dh> I just installed Kubuntu into a another partition :D it seems to run faster than Windows XP (guess no Antivirus and Firewall) does that
[10:57] <dh> I was wondering where i could get help in installing programs such as WINE ?
[10:58] <dh> and Firefox
[10:58] <xwolf-> dh lemme find here.
[10:58] <xwolf-> firefox's site has instructions on how to install it on linux
[10:58] <foodcoman> dh: open adept package manager and enable repositories.
[10:58] <Seantater> not needed -- use APT.
[10:58] <Seantater> What foodoman said
[10:58] <xwolf-> is apt's firefox package updated?
[10:59] <dh> Also I might need help with my mouse as it has 5 buttons the extra 2 I use for BACK and FORWARD.
[10:59] <foodcoman> dh: you should be able to then search for firefox and wine to install them.
[10:59] <xwolf-> last time i tried, installed a really old version.
[10:59] <Seantater> xwolf-: it is in dapper, and dapper will be out in only days
[10:59] <xwolf-> right
[11:00] <foodcoman> dh: Mouse is part of the configuration in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  You might need to google for you mouse some.
[11:01] <xwolf-> dh http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585
[11:04] <xwolf-> what does LTS mean?
[11:04] <skipster23> is kubuntu 6.06 drapper drake or breezy
[11:05] <xwolf-> dapper
[11:05] <apokryphos> xwolf-: long term release
[11:05] <Seantater> xwolf-: Long Term Support
[11:05] <skipster23> where can i find kubuntu 6.06
[11:05] <apokryphos> supported on the desktop for 3 years, on the server for 5
[11:05] <apokryphos> skipjack: kubuntu.org
[11:05] <skipster23> you have to order it
[11:05] <Seantater> xwolf-: the other's were noly supported 18 months, if I remember correctly
[11:05] <xwolf-> hm
[11:06] <apokryphos> skipster23: nope, check the announcements
[11:06] <skipster23> ok
[11:06] <apokryphos> yup
[11:07] <setite> is kate the only text editor included with kubuntu
[11:08] <xwolf-> nope
[11:08] <setite> what else is there
[11:08] <xwolf-> there is also kwrite
[11:08] <setite> i tried sudo kate and errored
[11:08] <setite> ok
[11:08] <xwolf-> try kdesu kate
[11:09] <setite> ok kwrite worked...
[11:09] <mardi> Hi, can someone tell me how to restart arts?
[11:09] <setite> ok kdesu is chilling
[11:10] <setite> not doing anything yet
[11:10] <dh> Maybe I should of tried Madrika...
[11:10] <setite> or did you mean sudo kdesu
[11:10] <xwolf-> setite kdesu is the kde equivalent for sudo
[11:10] <xwolf-> so 'kdesu kate' would open kate as root.
[11:10] <setite> yea i assumed that... i typed "kdsu kate /etc/network/interfaces"
[11:10] <setite> trying to enable eth0
[11:11] <setite> god i hate this.. i used to know how to do this... cant believe i forgot
[11:11] <foodcoman> dh:  I used to be a mandriva person and came here.
[11:11] <xwolf-> setite you didn't miss kd'e'su, did you?
[11:11] <Kadran> setite: why you don't try 'ifconfig eth0 up'?
[11:11] <setite> no i didnt miss the i
[11:11] <dh> I have never used Linux before. This is why first time trying it. I normally use Windows
[11:11] <mardi> Anyone have experience with Skype?
[11:11] <setite> ok ill try that
[11:11] <dh> So I am so used to Windows I heard Kubuntu and Madrika are good for newbies.
[11:12] <foodcoman> dh: No matter what distribution you pick, there is some dues to pay.....IE educating yourself........this is a primo spot to start.....
[11:12] <setite> all the buntus are great starters... just keep using or you may forget like i have
[11:12] <setite> Kadran nothin is happening
[11:13] <mardi> No-one knows how to restart arts?
[11:13] <setite> i should have configured during install
[11:13] <foodcoman> dh: I support Windows all day, but I hobby Kubuntu whenever I can....  That means something.
[11:14] <xwolf-> mardi probably '/etc/init.d/arts restart'
[11:14] <xwolf-> i don't have it here though
[11:15] <Kadran> setite: i try it and it works for me ?
[11:16] <setite> i typed sudo ifconfig eth0 up and nothing happened.. i just get anothe prompt
[11:16] <dh> Using Adept I think I am installing Firefox
[11:16] <mardi> xwolf-: Command '/ect/init.d/arts 'restart'' not found :(
[11:16] <foodcoman> dh:  Here is a couple links to help get you off the ground
[11:16] <foodcoman> dh: http://kudos.berlios.de
[11:17] <Skipster23> does ubuntu have a gui interface
[11:17] <xwolf-> mardi try 'ls /etc/init.d' and search for aRts
[11:17] <foodcoman> dh: http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:17] <xwolf-> i think it's aRts.
[11:17] <Skipster23> thats what
[11:18] <xwolf-> Skipster23 what do you mean?
[11:18] <Skipster23> aRts is what?
[11:18] <mardi> xwolf-: eek - we have ALSA but no arts
[11:18] <xwolf-> mardi well, i can't help you then.
[11:19] <xwolf-> Skipster23 i don't remember O-o
[11:19] <xwolf-> !aRts
[11:19] <ubotu> xwolf-: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:19] <mardi> xwolf-: thanks anyways
[11:19] <Skipster23> is it a xwindows app.
[11:20] <foodcoman> dh:  another great searchable resource...    https://wiki.ubuntu.com and search for example on nvidia, or ati or DVD or codec, things like that
[11:20] <foodcoman> dh:  Last one.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[11:21] <setite> ok still cant figure this out... tried the wiki
[11:21] <Skipster23> so kubuntu 6.06 still uses kde
[11:22] <trpr42> thats what that k before ubuntu stands for ;)
[11:22] <setite> ya
[11:22] <jarl_> hmm :)
[11:22] <crimsun> Skipster23: no, kubuntu 6.06 uses windows.
[11:22] <Skipster23> duh i knew that
[11:22] <crimsun> it just happens to look like KDE and function exactly like KDE, but it's really windows
[11:22] <Skipster23> i wasn't thinking for a min. Brain Fart
[11:24] <dh> I think Linux is still nor friendly enough for me.
[11:24] <dh> Thanks anyway
[11:24] <dh> I just needed to know can I remove GRUB Boot loader ?
[11:25] <foodcoman> dh: Its a whole new skill level.  Saddle up to the challenge.  Make all your friends look dumb.
[11:25] <Kadran> dh just give linux 2 monthes and you will feel that windows is the one who is not user friendly
[11:25] <jeekl> Hi. A friend of mine just upgraded to KDE 3.5.2 (breezy) and he has now got two google search bars in his konqueror. Anyone know how to get rid of one of them?
[11:25] <Blissex> dh: yes, just reinstall the MS Windows one.
[11:25] <dh> I cannot even install a program ......
[11:25] <setite> if it helps my eth0 is listed under network interfaces as a disabled ethernet network device and i cant click it
[11:25] <nixternal> dh: use a windows boot disk, boot from that...then type>  fdisk /mbr
[11:26] <nixternal> that will clear the mbr putting it back to stock...
[11:26] <dh> Nevermind it seems I have installed Firefox.
[11:26] <dh> It was just under "web browser"
[11:26] <Kadran> dh: installation process in kubuntu is more more easy than windows
[11:26] <dh> Seems the package manager is quite easy to use
[11:26] <foodcoman> dh: read the http://kudos.berlios.de.  Kubuntu FAQ.  That will get you off the ground.
[11:27] <Kadran> dh: at least you know where good programs are
[11:27] <dh> Seems like it installed Firefox 1.0.8
[11:28] <setite> haha got it
[11:28] <setite> damnit no i dont
[11:28] <dh> There is 1 thing I really need to know, how can I transfer all my PROGRAMs from Windows to Linux ?
[11:28] <setite> it will enable then immediately disable
[11:28] <Kadran> dh: any way just try it and don't be confused by the new names and belive me the next time you will use a windows pc you will find it tooooooo dull
[11:28] <dh> So do I got to install them 1 by 1?
[11:29] <Seantater> dh: programs?
[11:29] <setite> you cant
[11:29] <dh> Like mIRC, Firefox Profile.
[11:29] <Seantater> dh: You will be using Linux programs
[11:29] <dh> Sorry not the programs itself more like the settings.
[11:29] <Seantater> dh: better
[11:29] <setite> windows programs run on windows... linux on linux... some things you will be able to install on linux... and programs that have same extensions across platforms will be able to import settings and such.. but not a whole lot beyond that
[11:29] <Seantater> dh: Most of the time -- export -- import -- for each program
[11:29] <dh> Basicly I got to use different program s?
[11:30] <Seantater> dh: not for firefox
[11:30] <Kadran> dh: almost every program in windows has a one similar in linux and if there isn't you can run your fav. windows program with wine,
[11:30] <dh> Cant i just run them all in WINE ?
[11:30] <Seantater> dh: not all
[11:30] <Seantater> dh: only some work
[11:31] <Kadran> games work
[11:31] <Seantater> dh: that's why use use LINUX programs
[11:31] <setite> some will run.. and possibly poorly at that
[11:31] <Seantater> dh: you would loose some of the point of using linux if you just run everything in wine
[11:31] <dh> lol
[11:32] <dh> True
[11:32] <dh> What about my Firefox Profile ?
[11:32] <Kadran> i really loved linux games more than windows game, but still windows got some cool games to play, like fifa
[11:32] <setite> if you have a legacy self contained app you may get it to run.. but windows apps are getting more dependent on full windows installation
[11:32] <Seantater> dh: try file/import export stuff
[11:32] <dh> Okay. 1 last thing what about "Show Desktop" i need that.
[11:33] <Kadran> dh right click on the task bar and add an applet
[11:33] <setite> ahhh... sudo worked where kdesu didnt.. odd
[11:34] <Jack_Sparrow> I installed Kweather but it did not find the station/server
[11:34] <setite> yay inet on the lappy at last.. now to install wifi over ndiswrapper
[11:34] <foodcoman> Kadran: I think he is looking for the equivilent of a minimize all.
[11:35] <Kadran> foodcoman: i use Show Desktop button in the special buttton, but how to minimize all?
[11:35] <Kadran> is there a shortcut?
[11:35] <word> ok so 2 problems....the bottom bar thing goes all fuzzy when i dock a window on it....and when I don't skip(ctrl+c) the Enterprise Volume Manager on startup kubuntu doesn't boot
[11:36] <foodcoman> Kadran: Maybe that will do.  Windows its equiv to Window + D key
[11:36] <Kadran> Jack_Sparrow: i love liquedweather with superkaramba it is more nice and easy
[11:36] <Jack_Sparrow> dont know what superkaramba is?
[11:37] <dh> I wish I used Linux in the begining it wouldnt have been this hard :(
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> I have used kweather before
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Trying to finish my full update
[11:37] <crazy_penguin> good night everybody ! pleasent dreams ! :)
[11:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Goodnight
[11:38] <Kadran> superkaramba is a desktop wiget that will display some information into your wallpaper
[11:38] <setite> anyone using kubuntu on a macbook pro?
[11:39] <Jack_Sparrow> WIll synaptic get it
[11:39] <Kadran> setite: what a combination of power :)
[11:39] <setite> i know
[11:39] <setite> shit i forgot my eye exam
[11:39] <Jack_Sparrow> cya
[11:39] <dh> .mozilla makes it hidden ?
[11:40] <tester> hi there
[11:40] <Kadran> Jack_Sparrow: give superkaramba a shot 'sudo apt-get install superkaramba'
[11:40] <Kadran> hi tester
[11:40] <tester> argl
[11:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Where do I type that.. In term or run
[11:41] <RedRose2406> hey guys
[11:41] <Kadran> dh all .anything folder are folders that holds user settings and you don't even need to check those file it is like the registery in windows
[11:41] <Jack_Sparrow> I am already using synaptic and adept
[11:41] <word> ok so 2 problems....the bottom bar thing goes all fuzzy when i dock a window on it....and when I don't skip(ctrl+c) the Enterprise Volume Manager on startup kubuntu doesn't boot
[11:42] <dh> Seems like I found where Firefox keeps my profile :D
[11:42] <Kadran> Jack_Sparrow: search for superkaramba in adept
[11:42] <mardi> anyone here have experience using Skype
[11:42] <mardi> ?
[11:42] <Jack_Sparrow> will do after finishing the full update at 70% now
[11:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks
[11:43] <Kadran> Jack_Sparrow: you are welcome
[11:43] <Kadran> mardi: i have tried skype?
[11:44] <mardi> Kadran:  i get a "Segmentation fault" when Skype tries to initiate or recieve a call
[11:45] <Kadran> mardi: strange, try to open skype in a debugger and see where is the problem
[11:47] <mardi> Kadran: i'm a newbie, how would i open Skype in a debugger please?
[11:47] <Kadran> mardi: some time this trick work if you sure that every thing is ok 'LD_KERNEL_ASSUME=2.4 skype'
[11:48] <mardi> Kadran: but i'm not sure everything is ok :p
[11:48] <Kadran> first you will open the debugger by typing 'gdb' in the konsole
[11:48] <Kadran> then write exec-file /usr/bin/skype
[11:49] <Kadran> mardi: exec-file /usr/bin/skype
[11:49] <MacSlow> Can someone explain to me why konversation works but konqueror cannot resolve any url_
[11:49] <Kadran> mardi: then type 'run'
[11:49] <mardi> sh: gdb: command not found
[11:50] <mardi> Kadran: sh: gdb: command not found
[11:50] <Kadran> mardi: so you will need to install gdb first
[11:50] <mardi> i thought so ;)
[11:50] <Kadran> sudo apt-get install gdb
[11:52] <mardi> would it be a problem that Skype is installed in my /home directory?
[11:53] <Kadran> mardi: will you tell me how you did the installation?
[11:54] <silje> hi, everyone! I have a Packard Bell laptop, witch isnt supported in the old 2.6.12 kernel. In the new kubuntu, kubuntu dapper drake flight 7 the kernel is new. 2.6.15, but when i trie to boot from cd, and i chose "start kubuntu" i get a error simular to this: PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:00:11.0. Anyone seen such a problem before?
[11:54] <mardi> Kadran: I downloaded the tar.gz from Skype, unpacked it in my /home directory and ran it from there
[11:55] <mardi> Kadran: i followed the instructions on the Skype site
[11:55] <Kadran> mardi: ah i c , i have a difirent scinario for you i wish you would folow
[11:55] <silje> anyone?
[11:55] <Kadran> download http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb
[11:55] <Kadran> then type 'sudo dpkg --install getskype-linux-deb'
[11:56] <Kadran> hope it will work
[11:56] <Kadran> hi silje
[11:56] <mardi> Kadran: trying it now
[11:56] <Kadran> mardi: gl
[11:57] <silje> anyone, know what to do?
[11:58] <Kadran> silje: hope you solve this problem, try to search the wiki for kernel problems
[11:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Have you tried anything other than a default install
[11:59] <Jack_Sparrow> setting it to vesa video etc
[11:59] <edward_> Hi all. I don't suppose anybody fancies walking me through setting up Amarok do they?
[11:59] <mardi> Kadran: ok, looks like it worked, where should i run it from?
[12:00] <apokryphos> edward_: what's the problem?
[12:00] <Kadran> press 'alt + F2' the write skype but i recommend to make a menu entry for it with kmenuedit
[12:01] <edward_> apokryphos: I can't get it to play any of my tunes, basically! I've tried all amarok engines and things in Adept that I can find.
[12:02] <apokryphos> edward_: breezy/dapper?
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Have you tried changing the repos
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> looking for other prog
[12:02] <Kadran> edward_: i remember having this problem and some one adviced me here to install the extras but i don't remember the pkg name :(
[12:02] <Kadran> but it worked fine after
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Ah
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> good luck , noob myself
[12:03] <apokryphos> Kadran: on dapper it would've been libxine-extracodecs
[12:03] <apokryphos> on breezy xine automatically has mp3-output, but to use the gstreamer engine you need gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:03] <edward_> I've installed all libxine