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CashelI cant seem to find lndir in any packages... am I missing it or is it realy not to be found??01:38
azeemit used to be in xutils IIRC01:38
Cashelxutils? interesting place for it, I'll try it out... thank you..01:38
azeemCashel: well, it did not survive the modular split01:39
Cashelso I just found out, hehe.. Too bad, its rather handy for those of us who compile a lot for recreation :)01:41
azeemCashel: there's a wishlist bug in Debian about putting it into coreutils01:41
azeemprobably needs a rewrite first, though, I guess01:41
Cashelahhh .. thats a good memory you have there azeem heh..01:42
azeemwell, I can't find the bug anymore01:44
crimsunhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=30103001:45
UbugtuDebian bug 301030 in xutils "Subject: can we move lndir to coreutils or debianutils?" [Wishlist,Open] 01:45
azeemyeah01:46
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DarkMageZhi, could you sync gwget2 with debian? it should remove this bug which is critical to that app working #4518202:16
crimsun-updates material02:16
DarkMageZor apply the patch from upstreams bugzilla? i think they'd get really annoyed if someone created another bug report on their bugzilla about our out of date little package...02:19
crimsunthey're going to have to deal with it. We release on Thursday; it's Tuesday already.02:20
crimsunAgain, -updates material.02:20
DarkMageZhmm, can't find anything on the wiki that explains what you mean by -updates material02:25
crimsunthat means we'll punt into into dapper-updates02:27
crimsunpunt it into, rather02:27
DarkMageZah, that makes sence02:28
crimsunDarkMageZ: have you verified that this patch (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=59420&action=view) is all that's necessary for it to not crash there?02:32
DarkMageZnot personally, but the developer of gwget believe's it works02:33
crimsuncan you verify, please?02:34
DarkMageZyeah, starting up testbox now02:34
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bddebianHeya gang02:44
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bddebianHeya zul02:45
zulhey bddebian02:45
crimsunanyone else planning to upload universe/multiverse fixes tonight?02:51
bddebianI should do something but I'm dog arse tired :-(02:52
bddebianHiya crimsun btw :-)02:52
LaserJockcrimsun: unfortunately maxima seems a little too intwined with gcl to get it to build easily02:53
crimsun'lo bddebian02:53
crimsunLaserJock: ok, -updates, then02:53
bddebianMaxima is b0rked :-)02:53
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crimsunDarkMageZ: please test http://sh.nu/~crimsun/gwget2/gwget_0.96-1ubuntu2~1NOTUPLOADED_i386.deb03:04
ajmitchafternoon03:04
Toadstool'morning03:04
Toadstool:)03:04
bddebianHeya ajmitch03:04
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Se7hhi03:07
bddebianHello Se7h03:07
Se7hhi bddebian03:07
Se7hbtw im having this error updating ntp03:08
Se7hare the motus aware of that already?03:08
ajmitchbtw this is the wrong place to report bugs03:08
ajmitchespecially bugs that aren't for universe03:08
crimsunntp is a main package, and if it's the error I think was fixed in the last upload...03:08
Se7h"invoke-rc.d: initscript ntp-server, action "stop" failed."03:09
Se7hsorry ajmitch03:09
crimsunSe7h: yes, that was fixed already.  ``apt-cache policy ntp-server''03:09
Se7hoh ok crimsun03:09
crimsunCandidate: 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu6  <-- fixed.03:10
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DarkMageZcrimsun, yup, that package works nicely03:21
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crimsunDarkMageZ: ok, thanks. We'll roll it in dapper-updates (likely) unless mdz approves it for dapper (unlikely).03:24
LaserJockhehe, crimsun's talking about -updates and I'm still doing UVFes :-)03:26
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crimsunLaserJock: I'm thinking about my own sanity :-)03:27
LaserJockyeah03:27
crimsunafter what I went through last release with vlc, no way I'm pressing updates in this late.03:27
bddebianheh03:28
ajmitchand people *still* file bugs on vlc whining...03:28
ajmitchI'm scared03:28
bddebianI guess crimsun didn't fix it then?03:28
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ajmitchlewing said he had 23 patches for f-spot that he was going to send to me03:28
ajmitchcrimsun: it's now time for you to go off & drink until release is a distant memory?03:30
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bddebianheh03:37
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bddebianHeya bmonty03:43
bmontyhi bddebian03:44
bddebianLaserJock: Filing UVF's for pybiblio...?03:44
bmontyanyone see why the packages user-es and user-de should remain in the archive?03:44
bmontythey look obsolete to me and block removal of other obsolete packages03:44
LaserJockbddebian: well, working on it. Somebody actually filed it for my lazy butt03:44
bddebianHeh03:44
bddebianI was going to but I didn't want to offend :-)03:45
LaserJockwell, this weekend packaging project kicked my butt03:45
bddebianDid you get it?03:45
ajmitchLaserJock: why is that?03:45
LaserJockI think it worked03:46
LaserJockwell figuring out debconf took me quite a while03:46
LaserJockI'm a little slow :/03:46
bmontyLaserJock: yeah, debconf is fun :)03:46
ajmitchwell it's a good thing they asked a real developer & not one of us ;)03:46
LaserJocklol03:47
LaserJockthey asked the real developers all ready03:47
bddebianDoh03:47
LaserJockI actually had my first conference call today to talk about it03:47
ajmitchright03:47
LaserJockreally weird03:47
bmontyLaserJock: what are you packaging?03:47
LaserJockbut the company is RHEL only so they aren't really knowlegeble about .deb packaging03:48
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LaserJockbmonty: it's a proprietary app03:49
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bddebianLater ajmitch03:50
bmontyLaserJock: fun03:50
LaserJockbmonty: they are giving Ubuntu the right to distribute, really weird03:50
LaserJockI guess it's good in a way, but it makes packaging a bit harder. I didn't get any source03:51
bmontywell at least you don't have to worry about the config and compile steps :)03:51
bmontyor build-deps03:51
LaserJockbmonty: yeah, but they have some weirdnesses because the binaries are made to work on a variety of systems03:52
LaserJockI woke up this morning and said, "Thank God for Open Source Software"03:55
bmontywierd, I do that every morning also :)03:57
LaserJockwell, honestly I haven't really been into the OSS stuff very much, I just love linux03:58
bmontyLaserJock: I know the feeling...I could never afford to buy most of the software that I can get for Linux so I get to play around with a lot of stuff I wouldn't get to otherwise03:59
bmontyI can decide I want to learn about some new technology and go search for what is available in the OSS world which is very cool04:00
LaserJockyeah04:01
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bmonty...and my wife has taken a liking to dapper, so the last windows box in my house is about to go away04:03
LaserJockoh nice04:03
bmontyhmm, should my Xbox count?  That won't go away :)04:04
bddebianSACRILEDGE! :_)04:05
LaserJockbmonty: you can't but Ubuntu on your Xbox?04:05
LaserJockI know a few theoreticaly chemistry groups use clustered xbox's for calculations04:06
bmontyLaserJock: I could put ubuntu on the Xbox, but then I couldn't play Halo 204:07
LaserJockgood point04:07
LaserJockbut I don't really play games anymore, to much Ubuntu work to do :-)04:07
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LaserJockajmitch: annoyed?04:33
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imbrandonbmonty, do what i do, i have linux running on all my xboxes ;)04:39
imbrandon( and yes they still play xbox games )04:39
ajmitchLaserJock: uni stuff04:42
bmontyimbrandon: hows Xbox Live working for you04:45
imbrandoni use xkali or xbconnect04:46
imbrandonmost dashboards have xkali built in04:46
imbrandonlike xbmc04:46
bmontyimbrandon: that isn't XBox Live04:46
imbrandonno its not, true , but its a close experince, xblive dosent work ( ms bans moded xboxs )04:47
bmontybddebian: I was looking at some of your notes on gq, that software is very broken and no maintainer04:47
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bmontyhopefully ajmitch's SoC project will allow us to drop it :)04:48
bddebianbmonty: Aye :-)04:49
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bmontybddebian: I did get TLS and SASL to work, but I had to mess with it a lot04:51
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Hobbseehi all08:25
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dholbachgood morning motu world09:03
Hobbseehi dholbach09:05
dholbachheya Hobbsee09:05
neutrinomass(good morning dholbach) .desktops with Categories=Science; don't show up in the menus unless "Application'" is also in categories, yet "application" isn't a valid fd.org category :-/09:05
neutrinomassShould I file this against gnome-panel ?09:06
dholbachneutrinomass: I have no idea, maybe gnome-menus?09:06
neutrinomassdholbach: Yeah... (I keep forgetting that package ... )09:06
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crimsunDarkMageZ: fix uploaded, thanks for testing and confirming. (bug 45182)09:39
UbugtuMalone bug 45182 in gwget2 "gwget is broken in Dapper" [Normal,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4518209:39
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:infinity] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | We are in feature freeze now. Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) and http://tinyurl.com/kbxpe (mysqlclient) | http://tinyurl.com/pghsw (motureviewers) | Ubuntu upload queue in manual mode, ping infinity in #ubuntu-devel to process universe uploads m
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imbrandonwb dholbach10:01
dholbachthanks imbrandon10:02
crimsunnice work, MOTU, on Dapper!10:07
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=== sivang searches for before release important MOTU tasks
\shmoins10:33
dholbachsivang: topic10:35
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peleleHi01:14
peleleI am eraser a DVDRW from terminal, but i cant, this teach me This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command01:15
peleleif anyone knows something01:16
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zulheylo01:35
Hobbseehi zul01:37
zulhey Hobbsee how is it going?01:37
Hobbseegood - assignmenting.  i'm thinking i should set my computer assignment on fire.01:37
zulburn baby burn....01:42
Hobbseehehe01:43
Hobbseei wish.01:43
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tsenghi01:46
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phanatichi people02:51
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phanaticheya Hobbsee_02:52
Hobbseehi phanatic02:52
phanatic:)02:52
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phanatichello raphink03:10
raphinkhi phanatic03:10
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bddebianHeya gang03:38
Se7hhi03:38
Hobbseehi bddebian03:40
bddebianHeya Hobbsee03:40
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hubLOL. I was reading sabdfl blog on planet.ubuntu04:14
hubhe exactly got what I think will happen to me04:14
zulis there a meeting today?04:15
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dholbachzul: I doubt it.04:18
bddebianHeya zul, dholbach04:18
dholbachhey bddebian04:18
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bddebianzul: ?04:23
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bddebianzul: And you aren't sharing? ;-)04:23
zulheh...no i been trying to get spam assain to work all morning04:24
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einsteinmghi all04:41
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: give them the lecture for me please.  nalioth isnt around, and i'm far too tired....04:43
bddebianHello einsteinmg04:44
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee, just crash. i'll try and remember to pull up the logs when it breaks04:44
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: and i really couldnt be bothered trying to fix it in a few months, when they try to upgrade...04:44
Hobbseehehe04:44
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Hobbseesplat!04:44
einsteinmgjust received a mail, that a few of my packages made the way into dapper/universe :)04:44
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Hobbseeeinsteinmg: yay!04:44
einsteinmgcould you please send me the patches you made against my package?04:46
einsteinmgthere are 2 build fixes and i didn't receive a mail, could also be the case that i miss it (in this case sorry)04:47
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Kamping_KaiserHobbsee, go to bed, its only wednesday am. you have more AMs to go this week ;)04:53
Hobbseehehe...dont remind me...04:53
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SpecWhat's landscape?05:44
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thierrynLaserJock : could you come to ubuntu-meeting to talk about me (I helped a bit with .desktop files stuff)07:40
thierrynLaserJock : I'm trying to become a community member07:40
LaserJockwhen is it?07:40
bddebianThere is a CC meeting?07:40
thierrynLaserJock : now07:40
thierrynbddebian : yes in #ubuntu-meeting07:40
bddebianUhm, it's awfully quiet :-)07:41
LaserJockdude, is anybody there?07:43
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LaserJockthierryn: what is your wiki page URL?07:44
LaserJocknvm, I found it07:46
LaserJockthierryn: congrats!07:51
thierrynLaserJock : thanks , you helped a lot!07:51
LaserJockI hope so, you deserve it07:51
LaserJockyou've been around for some time07:51
bddebianYeah thierryn.  Welcome.07:52
thierrynbddebian : yeah sorry you helped too, thanks :)07:57
bddebianHeh, NP07:57
thierrynwhat is the time normally to get the approval?07:57
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LaserJockthierryn: hmm?07:58
Tonio_hey07:58
thierrynLaserJock : well I went to the webpage Kamion told me and it says I'm waiting for approval...07:59
thierrynLaserJock : never mind, got it08:01
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LaserJockare uploads to Universe frozen?09:43
crimsunyes and no09:44
crimsunno -> you can upload, but you'll have to wait on infinity to manually run the publisher09:44
crimsunyes -> infinity is very busy with testing09:45
crimsunso for all practical purposes, I'd would abide by the following guideline:09:45
crimsunif the change isn't trivial (a couple lines) /and/ doesn't fix a showstopper, queue it for -updates09:46
LaserJockok, I just uploaded a 1 line fixer, I didn't realize we were that close :/09:48
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crimsunyou'll need to ping infinity to process it, then.09:54
LaserJockcrimsun: thanks09:57
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cbx33anyone here know about teh testing matrix on the wiki10:03
cbx33I just tested the install CD for edubuntu using the use freespace option but it's not on the matrix10:03
cbx33should I add it, or have I just wasted an hour10:03
dholbachcbx33: ask sfllaw on #ubuntu-devel and/or ogra10:04
dholbachcbx33: and thanks for testing!10:04
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cbx33dholbach, np10:05
cbx33dholbach, I'm trying to get 4 possibly 5 installs done tonight10:06
dholbachcbx33: you rock10:06
dholbachthanks for that10:06
cbx33np10:06
cbx33we don;t get that many testers fro edubuntu10:07
cbx33howz it all going your end?10:07
dholbachdid quite a bunch of installations already10:08
dholbachlooking good10:08
cbx33excellent10:08
ogradholbach, yeah he rocks, he'll get the "Dr.Hc Edubuntu" title10:08
cbx33thanks ogra  :D10:08
cbx33y'all rock too now ya hear me :p10:08
dholbach:-)))10:09
ogra:D10:09
LaserJockface it guys (an Hobbsee) we all rock! ;-)10:18
cbx33hehe well yup we do10:22
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LaserJockexcept his typos will shrink it back down a bit ;-)10:24
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Specwait, there was a CC meeting today?10:31
cbx33LaserJock, :p10:38
LaserJockSpec: yes10:45
Specso, how does one get notified of a CC meeting? ;p10:46
Specit's not ever mentioned on ubuntu-motu-request10:47
LaserJockumm fridge.ubuntu.com10:51
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crimsunIt's a good time to close off universe/multiverse for good.11:28
LaserJockcrimsun: why?11:30
LaserJockbefore we do anymore breaking, I mean fixing ;-)11:30
crimsunyes, and I honestly don't think we can find that many more such fixes11:30
crimsunplus infinity/keybuk are frazzled already11:31
LaserJockyeah, watching -devel make me glad I'm not a core-dev or on the release team11:32
LaserJockhehe, I wonder what would happen if somebody joined -devel an said "I Dapper out yet?" ;-)11:33
LaserJock*IS11:33
bddebianLaserJock: Try it! :)11:39
LaserJockheck no11:39
LaserJockI want to make it back from Paris alive :-)11:39
bddebianBah11:40
LaserJockbddebian: you try it, according to you they already hate you ;-)11:41
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