[12:00] <PORDO> what about epiphany?
[12:00] <PORDO> links?
[12:00] <Intune> wait, i'll try
[12:00] <roostishaw> ok
[12:00] <marcipano> could anyone help me with Crossover Office and cyrillic support in it ?:(
[12:00] <Fire-NR> urm can synaptic be run from command line? or do i need to apt-get install?
[12:01] <ecormier> system-admin-synaptic in the menus
[12:01] <Fire-NR> not got a gui setup yet
[12:01] <Fire-NR> trying to install ati drivers
[12:01] <ecormier> try aptitude then
[12:01] <Fire-NR> thanks
[12:01] <ecormier> "sudo aptitude" to be exact
[12:01] <BrianHH> Can anyone help me exorcise the demon of jre from my system??  It's destroyed apt-get!! :(
[12:02] <guard> !find wx-config
[12:02] <Intune> i can't install any other software because it always tries to download them from the net, and that fails, too
[12:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'wx-config' (1 shown): (/usr/share/apps/kdevappwizard/template-common/wx-configure.in) in universe/kde/kdevelop3-data.
[12:02] <crimsun> guard: we don't use that nomenclature.
[12:02] <rseward> if I want to compile ndiswrapper which linux-source package should I install???
are you using this chat on the problem computer,...it sounds like you have nothing
[12:02] <crimsun> rseward: none. use linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:02] <rseward> linux-source-2.6.12 seems to install a tar.bz2?
[12:02] <guard> crimsun what nomneclature than is it locate?
[12:02] <rseward> crimsun: thanks.
[12:02] <phyre-x> theres a nice walk through of ndiswrapper on ubuntuforums
[12:03] <crimsun> guard: /usr/lib/wx/config/gtk2-unicode-release-2.6
[12:03] <crimsun> guard: located in the libwxgtk2.6-dev package
[12:03] <guard> crimsun, thanx i needed the package name thanx again
[12:04] <Intune> no, it's not on this computer
[12:04] <SurfnKid> is mount used to mount and unmount?
[12:04] <Intune> but it's the notebook beside me
[12:04] <ecormier> yeah I'd say there's nothing....
[12:04] <warpzone> hey guys, anybody mind helping me for a second wth the fglrx driver installation?
[12:04] <ecormier> you say ping works??
[12:04] <lukaswayne9> Hello, I'm looking to buy a TV card.  Where can I find a list of TV cards that are fully supported in Ubuntu?
[12:04] <Intune> yes, and i can resolve IPs from domain names
[12:04] <mitchman> mount to mount 'umount' to unmount
[12:04] <guard> warpzone, native drives have 3-d accel why you need fglrx?
[12:04] <ecormier> thats so weird
[12:05] <KaiSV1> !ati
[12:05] <ubotu> hmm... ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:05] <Intune> i can even get machine information on servers from that network tools window
[12:05] <ecormier> have you tried a wget transfer
[12:05] <SurfnKid> oh its umount
[12:05] <warpzone> guard, i want to use the TV-out feature which isnt supported by the native drivers
[12:05] <SurfnKid> right
[12:05] <SurfnKid> thx
[12:05] <Intune> i'll try
[12:05] <Intune> sorry that i don't come up with these things myself, i'm a total linux newbie..
[12:05] <ecormier> I think everyone is
[12:05] <ecormier> :)
[12:05] <warpzone> lukaswayne9, get an nVidia, thats all I can say. ATI doesnt support much and the drivers stink
[12:06] <ecormier> I agree warpzone
[12:06] <r3k13m> if i install a program in, for example, /opt, how i can execute the program by command without put all the pathway?
[12:06] <delrio> if your talking about ASP this is for Windows not Linux right?
[12:06] <guard> warpzone, ok what do you want. there is a good help on the forums for the new 8.25.18 if that is what you are looking for
[12:06] <Intune> hehe :)
[12:06] <lukaswayne9> warpzone: i'm not looking for a tv and video card, i'm looking for just a pci tv card
[12:06] <ecormier> anybody have any trouble with the fglrx upgrade today...I upgraded and now no opengl at all
[12:06] <guard> warpzone, but you can just install the older 8.24 something from the repos. i installed both and there is not much a difference
[12:07] <Fire-NR> doing = sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx : get [fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found! fatal error inserting fglrz (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/volatile/fglrx.lo): no such device
[12:07] <guard> warpzone, than i found the native ones better in term of stability
[12:07] <delrio> can you run an ASP in ubuntu?
[12:07] <RandolphCarter> lukaswayne9: most Hauppage cards are supported, Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T Card is a sure bet
[12:07] <rseward> I wish Windows Server 2003 had an IRC channel like this.
[12:07] <warpzone> guard, never checked the forums, I was following the ubuntu wiki BinaryDriverHowto. I'll check the forums before continuing! thanks!
[12:07] <load> are there any packagers in here?
[12:07] <guard> warpzone, let me get the link for you
[12:07] <warpzone> guard, thanks a bunch man
[12:08] <load> I have a question about pbuilder
[12:08] <Intune> oh great, now the network adapter disappeared alltogether
[12:08] <ecormier> I'd sayit wasn't really there in the first place
[12:08] <Intune> not much to try anymore then
[12:08] <warpzone> lukaswayne9, dont know much about pure TV cards. :(
[12:08] <ecormier> whats the adapter??
[12:08] <Intune> yes it was, i checked it in the network window
[12:08] <Intune> and i could open the config page of my network's router
[12:09] <ecormier> is it wireless
[12:09] <BrianHH> Is there something like a registry in Ubuntu that I could rip JRE from?  I'm having fits trying to figure this crap out. :(
[12:09] <Intune> yes
[12:09] <ecormier> what kind ?
[12:09] <Intune> but i can access my router over wireless
[12:09] <mitchman> ubuntu doesnt have a registry
[12:09] <ecormier> do you knpw
[12:09] <Intune> the receiver?
[12:09] <ecormier> the wireless in the problem computer
[12:09] <RandolphCarter> doh :( network-manager doesn't much care for my 11420 host blacklist :/
[12:10] <Intune> i don't know, it's built-in in my HP nx8220 notebook
[12:10] <void^> BrianHH: update-alternatives --list java
[12:10] <Intune> but that shouldn't bother ubuntu under vmware, right?
[12:10] <ecormier> you might want to google "nx8220 linux wireless"
[12:10] <Intune> because the system running vmware can access everything
[12:10] <sflash> hey guyes, i had live cd question
[12:10] <Ubuntunoob> ok... tried downloading aegis virusscanner from "add apps", and nothing happends... cant fint it in the menu, and cant start it from term.
[12:10] <lukaswayne9> mitchman: well ubuntu has gconf
[12:10] <ecormier> ohhhhh you're in vmware
[12:11] <sflash> I need to add my user on the sudoers list, i can do that using the live cd correct?
[12:11] <guard> warpzone, check the post by noof #51 that what worked for me here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181724&page=6
[12:11] <mitchman> ubuntu stores its configurations as plain text files
[12:11] <pakirri> has anybody tried to use Orinoco Wireless Silver Card with Network Manager on Ubuntu Dapper
[12:11] <warpzone> guard. will do, thanks again man
[12:11] <Ubuntunoob> ok... tried downloading aegis virusscanner from "add apps", and nothing happends... cant fint it in the menu, and cant start it from term. anyone know why?
[12:11] <bleech> does anyone know how to somehow view an activex enabled page?  can I do it with internet explorer in wine?
[12:12] <BrianHH> void^:  Thanks.  I've got a program called gij-wrapper and /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java.  If I eradicate those, will I get my system back?
[12:12] <Sub> Ubuntunoob, you dont need a virus scanner with linux :D
[12:12] <Fire-NR> doing = sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx : get [fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found! fatal error inserting fglrz (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/volatile/fglrx.lo): no such device
[12:12] <void^> BrianHH: err.. what or who took your system away?
[12:12] <SurfnKid> ok the mount thing didnt do me any help cuz i dont have any more disk space so forget it :D
[12:12] <Intune> yes i mentioned vmware :)
[12:12] <Ubuntunoob> Sub, i've heard that.... but just wanted to check it out :p
[12:12] <Intune> funny thing is, after installing ubunti, it worked. i rebooted once, it stopped working
[12:12] <Sub> well, i dunno becuas eive never installed anti-virus on a linux machine.
[12:12] <ecormier> try rebooting again??
[12:13] <BrianHH> void^:  JRE did it.  Every time I try to run apt-get now, I get the message, "The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[12:13] <BrianHH> "  And I can't do squat  with apt-get as a result.
[12:13] <Intune> vmware forums tell me to add 'auto eth0' to etc/network/interfaces, but that's already there
[12:13] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: the only reason you would want a virus scanner in linux is for protecting yourself from accidentally infecting a windows computer during file transfers
[12:13] <Intune> i rebooted about 20 times by now :)
[12:13] <ecormier> thats not the problem...if the adapter isn't showing up, the correct module may not have loaded....I'd try a reboot first
[12:13] <ecormier> ok
[12:13] <void^> BrianHH: the package is called "jre" ?
[12:13] <Ubuntunoob> bleech, how can that be a problem?
[12:14] <Intune> yes the adapter is back
[12:14] <Intune> but still no internet
[12:14] <BrianHH> void^:  That's what it says, but when I try to uninstall using apt-get, I get the same message.
[12:14] <ecormier> so reboot won't work....I'd start googling the keywords ...like "vmware ubuntu network adapter"
[12:14] <ecormier> adapters back?
[12:15] <Intune> yes
[12:15] <ecormier> system-admin-networking
[12:15] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: say you download some file that has a virus onto your linux machine.  now if you go transfer that file to a windows machine, you might infect it but your linux machine is fine
[12:15] <ecormier> Intune are you command line or gui
[12:16] <void^> BrianHH: hm.. you can probably use -m/-f to make apt-get ignore the problem. never encountered anything like it (i don't use apt based distros that much..). sorry, can't help with that; but deleting any java related files won't solve the problem.
[12:16] <Intune> gui
[12:16] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: i've done it by accident once when backing up files from a windows machine onto my linux one
[12:16] <BrianHH> Ubuntunoob:  You can only be a carrier for a virus.  You can't get infected yourself.
[12:16] <Ubuntunoob> bleech, hehe... kk.... try to remember that....
[12:16] <ecormier> yeah so go to the menu "system-admin-networking"
[12:16] <ecormier> what adapters do you see
[12:16] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: yeah.. what BrianHH said
[12:17] <sflash> im using knoppix live cd, anyone know a text editer with it?
[12:17] <Intune> lo and eth0
[12:17] <BrianHH> void^:  So apt-get -f install should work?
[12:17] <T-CAN> if i save a .txt file on a floppy from windows, will i be able to view it on ubuntu?
[12:17] <ecormier> click eth0 and hit properties
[12:17] <mitchman> sflash:  you could use vi or kedit
[12:17] <ecormier> do you have DHCP on your router
[12:17] <ollo82_> T-CAN: yes
[12:17] <T-CAN> nothing special needed?
[12:18] <Intune> yes
[12:18] <ollo82_> no
[12:18] <BrianHH> T-CAN:  Yes.  You can view it in vi or nedit or whatever text editor you want.
[12:18] <T-CAN> k, thanks
[12:18] <ecormier> is it set in properties to use dhcp
[12:18] <Intune> yes
[12:18] <Ubuntunoob> bleech, so... when i recently started my cpu now, i got the message of a forced systemcheck, cause it had been mounted more than 30 times, its not actually a virus?
[12:18] <Intune> i am logged in to the network correctly, i can access all the other computers in the network, and the router/hub
[12:18] <ecormier> is eth0 set as the default gateway device
[12:18] <Intune> yet all the other computers can access the internet, and ubuntu cannot
[12:19] <Intune> 1sec...
[12:19] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: no... thats a standard filesystem integrity check
[12:19] <BrianHH> bleech:  That didn't work, either.  :(  It completely ignored the -f flag and just gave me the same error message.
[12:19] <Ubuntunoob> bleech, ah... kk
[12:19] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: every once in a while it checks to make sure the filesystems are good and nothing is corrupted
[12:20] <ecormier> Intune: it sounds like a router setup problem.
[12:20] <bleech> as a result of say, a power outage
[12:20] <Sp4rKy_> hi
[12:20] <bleech> does anyone know how i can view an activex page?
[12:20] <sflash> I lost my sudoers ability, i want to edit my /etc/sudoers . How can i do this? I popped iin the live cd but it still gives me access deinied
[12:20] <Sp4rKy_> does anyone know if network could be used with wine ?
[12:20] <Jowi> bleech: you need windows most likely
[12:21] <Sp4rKy_> sflash, try with root acout
[12:21] <BrianHH> Have I reached the point yet where a reformat/reinstall is necessary to solve this??
[12:21] <Sp4rKy_> acount *
[12:21] <Intune> yes eth0 is default gateway
[12:21] <sflash> i cant login as root
[12:21] <sflash> it says access denied
[12:21] <Intune> but ubuntu isn't actually related to the router
[12:21] <bleech> Jowi: nooo thats impossible
[12:21] <Jowi> ubotu: tell sflash about root
[12:21] <Intune> it goes over vmware, it should have access to everything the host system has access to
[12:21] <BrianHH> bleech:  I think firefox has a few extensions that let you view activex pages...
[12:21] <ecormier> ubuntu's in vmware on a computer with wireless right?
[12:21] <Ubuntunoob> bleech, and what will the os do if it find some corrupted files?
[12:22] <tubbie> does Ubuntu has any tool to setup internet sharing?
[12:22] <Jowi> tubbie: yes. install firestarter
[12:22] <Jowi> !firestarter
[12:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[12:22] <muszek> hi.  latest kernel/fglrx upgrade messed my ati drivers... is there anything I can do?
[12:22] <muszek> I'm using Dapper
[12:22] <Intune> correct
[12:22] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: try to fix them
[12:22] <ecormier> <muszek: me too the same thing
[12:23] <invitado> soy juan carlos
[12:23] <muszek> ecormier: did you manage to solve the problem?
[12:23] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: how long did it take to run the check?
[12:23] <ecormier> Intune: start playing with the vmware network settings
[12:23] <invitado> alguna sugerencia de mi persona
[12:23] <Intune> it doesn't have much
[12:23] <ecormier> muszek: nope...I've been asking for a few minutes
[12:23] <tubbie> I just installed gnome-pim,, but I dunno how to start the addressbook :\
[12:23] <Intune> it allows me so select different network methods. selecting everything but NAT makes ubuntu fail connecting at boot time
[12:24] <Ubuntunoob> bleech, its not the first time, so the same as earlier - would be the most proper ansewer... not more than 4 min. approx
[12:24] <ecormier> Intune: I'm not that familiar with vmware....but it seems to be the problem....your running vmware in a windows host with network working??
[12:24] <Jowi> tubbie: gnomecard
[12:24] <Irelandshope> I am having a problem with Dapper  My CPU sitting at 50-70 even when idle. I am on Kernal 2.6.15-23-686 but if I boot into my previous Kernal from Breezy 2.6.12.9-686 the CPU usage is only 6% at idle. Is anone else having this problem or even hear of it.
[12:24] <BrianHH> If I find every file that references jre, and destroy it, will that keep Ubuntu from thinking it needs to find a jre archive on my machine?
[12:25] <spacey> Irelandshope: go to terminal and type `top`
[12:25] <spacey> and see what hogs the cpu
[12:25] <muszek> Irelandshope: run "top" to at least see what's hogging your CPU
[12:25] <bleech> Ubuntunoob: do you know which partition it was checking by any chance?  e.g. the root partition? the boot partition?  if you don't know what i'm talking about then don't worry
[12:25] <lukaswayne9> Irelandshope: i would file a bug in launchpad
[12:26] <Intune> yes. and it worked at first.
[12:26] <Intune> i only rebooted, and it stopped working
[12:26] <ecormier> <lukaswayne9: that might be premature until you find it's not something like beagle
[12:26] <Fire-NR> doing = sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx : get [fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found! fatal error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/volatile/fglrx.lo): no such device
[12:26] <Jowi> Irelandshope: 0.3 % sounds more resonable. even 6% is alot for an idle 1ghz pc
[12:26] <Fire-NR> trying to install a ati card
[12:26] <lukaswayne9> is gnome-system-monitor just a frontend for top?
[12:27] <Ubuntunoob> bleech, hehehe... kk... then i guess i shall not worry ;)
[12:27] <ecormier> <Intune: sorry I think I've exausted my knowledge...although I'm only a newb...keep asking
[12:27] <warpzone> alright, rebooting to see if it worked.
[12:27] <Intune> hehe, ok thanks!
[12:28] <sflash> so i entered a live cd and am in terminal. I go to edit hda1/etc/sudoers and i cant. still says read only, how can i change this?
[12:28] <tubbie> any one knows why the window is so ugly? http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot8ya.png
[12:28] <BrianHH> Okay, I've taken out all the jre archives and directories I've downloaded.  Time to see if I've eradicated the plague.
[12:28] <tubbie> it is gnome calendar
[12:28] <Intune> bye :)
[12:28] <BrianHH> brb
[12:28] <Irelandshope> spacey: Strange in the terminal it is only reporting about 10% overall. I have both the terminal open and System monitor in system monitor Xorg is reporting around 40-50% but in the terminal Xorg is reporting around 6%.
[12:29] <sflash> problem is my hard drive is considered a readonly
[12:29] <sflash> how can i change this?
[12:29] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: the application in the screenshot is using gtk1, a deprecicated library.  Most applications written for ubuntu use gtk2, which look nice and have antialiased fonts.
[12:29] <felipe__> how can I download public key from a key server?
[12:29] <LasseL> sflash, is it NTFS?
[12:30] <sflash> im not sure, how could i find out?
[12:30] <SuPrEm0> hola
[12:30] <tubbie> lukaswayne9, any workaround to "fix" it?
[12:30] <SuPrEm0> i need you hrlp
[12:30] <SuPrEm0> help
[12:30] <LasseL> sflash, System > Administration > Disks
[12:30] <gnomefreak> sflash: is it a windows drive your trying to mount?
[12:30] <sflash> LasseL: Or actually, just that file is locked read only
[12:30] <SuPrEm0> hi
[12:31] <LasseL> sflash, that is a lot different
[12:31] <LasseL> sflash, which file is it?
[12:31] <SuPrEm0> i want up server streming
[12:31] <SuPrEm0> with what i do?
[12:31] <BrianHH> Nope, that didn't work, either. :(
[12:31] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: You have three choices really.  a)  Use a different application.  Perhaps evolution or mozilla-calander will suit your purposes?  b)  Port of ask the developers to port the application to gtk2.  c)  live with it
[12:31] <sflash> gnomefreak: my ubuntu user lost a group that i was apart of, now i need to put him back so i can have sudo rights. the /etc/sudoers file
[12:31] <LasseL> sflash, if you own it you should be able to right-click it in nautilus and change the permissions
[12:32] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: there aren't too many gtk1 applications still around that are used.  I can only think of a few.. XMMS (which has a gtk2 port), Gtkcash (which is almost done being ported to GTK2), and that's pretty much it
[12:32] <sflash> LasseL: it wont let me change permissions
[12:32] <lukaswayne9> gtkcash->gnucash*
[12:32] <sflash> LasseL: im using Konqueror though
[12:33] <LasseL> sflash, you cant change that file unless you are root or have sudo access
[12:33] <spacey> Irelandshope: i have no idea, maybe file support ticket at launchpad or try mailing list
[12:33] <tubbie> I'll try mozilla-calandar first
[12:33] <Kr0ntab> sup f0olks
[12:33] <load> can someone answer a pbuilder question?
[12:33] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: i would suggest evolution first, as it's already installed on your system :)
[12:33] <Kr0ntab> folks, even
[12:33] <BrianHH> Well, I'm going to give up on solving this the subtle way, I guess.  Next weekend I'll do a complete reformat and reinstall.  If I had just done that in the beginning, I'd be up and running again by now.
[12:33] <warpzone> guard, welllll, not bad except that everything is totally whited-out. canbarely read the screen. any suggestions?
[12:34] <sflash> LasseL: my problem is i cant login as root on my ubuntu machine, i have the password it just wont let me. and the only other user i had lost the admin group, does this mean im screwed :)?
[12:34] <ecormier> sflash: sudo passwd root
[12:34] <sflash> i wish i could roll back my computer to 2 days ago
[12:34] <LasseL> sflash, get a live cd
[12:34] <PORDO> ecormier if that user isn't in sudo group, how does that help?
[12:34] <ecormier> ohhh...sorry
[12:35] <PORDO> why not just boot in single mode?  isn't that like root?
[12:35] <LasseL> sflash, I always keep a knoppix disk around for times like that
[12:35] <sflash> LasseL: im on a live cd right now., knoppix
[12:35] <PORDO> i mean, if you have physical access to a machine, there should be no problems.
[12:35] <sflash> the file is still locked
[12:35] <BrianHH> sudo only works if your root password works, unfortunately.
[12:35] <||arifaX> POPDO: ditto
[12:35] <george_> is anybody familiar with wine?
[12:35] <LasseL> sflash, well, you should be able to become root from knoppix
[12:35] <sflash> I think to login as root, you have to change a preference
[12:35] <sflash> ok, how do you do that?
[12:36] <tubbie> lukaswayne9, evolution is not so bad :). it got everything integrated. Hope it integrate well with gnome
[12:36] <tubbie> :)
[12:36] <LasseL> sflash, google
[12:36] <sflash> LasseL: I use sudo vi /etc/sudoers and it says its a readonly file
[12:36] <amphi> sflash: do sudo visudo
[12:37] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: yes, it integrates pretty well with gnome.  If you click on the time and date button in the panel, your evolution appointments will be shown :)
[12:37] <gui> is there an exact release date for dapper? the future of my PC depends on it :D
[12:37] <lukaswayne9> gui June 1st
[12:37] <lukaswayne9> gui: unofficially
[12:38] <tubbie> lukaswayne9, thanks :) I like Ubuntu so much
[12:38] <tubbie> :=)
[12:38] <gui> lukaswayne9, yeah.. I saw that date these days.. but I need an official
[12:38] <LasseL> sflash, sudo visudo -f /mnt/yourhd/etc/sudoers
[12:38] <Jaak> can i make a command to make 3ddesktop go to next workspace?
[12:38] <crimsun> gui: / lukaswayne9: that /is/ the official date.
[12:38] <gui> crimsun: oh so it's perfect, thanks
[12:38] <LasseL> Jaak, ctrl+alt+arrows
[12:38] <lukaswayne9> crimsun: oh, nifty :)
[12:39] <tubbie> does dapper wome with xgl by default?
[12:39] <tubbie> come*
[12:39] <Jaak> yes, but i want to do that using 3ddesktop
[12:39] <sflash> LasseL: it says visudo: /mnt/hda1/etc/sudoers: Read-only file system
[12:39] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: No, but it can be easily installed
[12:39] <AlinuxOS> hello
[12:40] <Tentation> Hi guys!
[12:40] <GustavoBio> hi
[12:40] <trevor> lukaswayne9, where do i start if i want to install xgl?
[12:40] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: in the next release after dapper (edgy), xgl is going to be further intergrated with ubuntu
[12:40] <sflash> LasseL: do you think the way it mounted caused this? should i mount it a different way?
[12:40] <AlinuxOS> does KDE use .fonts.config for its font/personalized configuration ?
[12:40] <GaiaX11> I have tried to connect to another machine through ssh, but without any success. Do i have to change anything in /etc/ssh/ssh_config and in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. All the lines are commented.
[12:40] <Red-Sox> Hi, whenever I try to do the ubuntu install on my machine, it says 'Loading Partitioner' and then goes to a blank, blue screen and nothing happens
[12:40] <tubbie> I know. I already have xgl running :)
[12:40] <lukaswayne9> trevor https://wiki.ubuntu.com/compiz
[12:40] <AlinuxOS> for GNOME I've my own .fonts.config
[12:40] <GustavoBio> trevor, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
[12:40] <trevor> lukaswayne9, thanks
[12:40] <tubbie> it was so easy to install. that's why iasked if it is included in dappe
[12:40] <LasseL> sflash, I am not a knoppix wizard, try remounting it, perhaps knoppix just mounts disks readonly by default
[12:41] <lukaswayne9> tubbie: nope, but in edgy it's going to be pushed to be included by default, along with a lot of other experiamental technologies
[12:41] <Tentation> I am currently try ubuntu dapper drake, but i have a problem with my scanner, in ubuntu hoary to setup it i edited this file of sane: /etc/hotplug/usb/libsane.usemap but...in dapper drake i can not find it! anybody can help me?!
[12:42] <LasseL> xgl/compiz is fun, but it still has a beta feel about it
[12:42] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:42] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[12:42] <Red-Sox> Happened to anyone else?
[12:42] <george_> can anybody tell me how to install programs to use with wine?
[12:43] <ssdg>  /quit
[12:43] <LasseL> george_, just download them and run wine setup.exe -- if you are very lucky it will work
[12:44] <george_> ok thanx Lassel
[12:44] <km0ti0n> The forums are really slow today.
[12:45] <Ubuntunoob> LasseL, wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\setup.exe": Module not found , when running setup.... what have i note done yet? trying to get wine to wirk with WoW
[12:46] <LasseL> Ubuntunoob, I think you may be pushing your luck there
[12:46] <sflash> LasseL: I cant unmount and remount
[12:46] <Ubuntunoob> hm?
[12:46] <sflash> LasseL:says device is busy
[12:46] <Ubuntunoob> LasseL, u mean i should give up?
[12:46] <LasseL> sflash, beats me
[12:47] <sudomania4> how do i make ctrl-alt-delete open gnome-system-monitor?
[12:47] <LasseL> Ubuntunoob, I am by no means an expert on that, it may work: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_and_update_World_Of_Warcraft_with_wine
[12:47] <sflash> LasseL: how can i change that file from readonly?
[12:48] <LasseL> Ubuntunoob, from what I have read cedega is better for games: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=3518
[12:48] <runa> hey :) what was the name of that neat TCL/TK app to install MSIE and all the libs in wine?
[12:48] <LasseL> sflash, by mounting the filesystem as readable
[12:48] <sudomania4> bbl
[12:49] <Ubuntunoob> LasseL, yeah... but i have a fetisch... wanna do it the hard way %D
[12:50] <ShastaMaroon> Is it possible to install ubuntu over FTP?  I think my DVD drive is screwed up.
[12:50] <LasseL> Ubuntunoob, in that case go to #gentoo land
[12:50] <Ubuntunoob> LasseL, thx
[12:50] <sflash> LasseL: I just noticed that the file system isnt like that, just the file /etc/sudoers
[12:51] <sflash> LasseL: How can i change that file?
[12:51] <LasseL> sflash, sudo visudo -f /mnt/yourhd/etc/sudoers
[12:51] <LasseL> sflash, it is supposed to be readonly, you don't want to change that
[12:52] <zim_> hi all What does LTS stand for ??? Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[12:52] <Antipodean> hey all
[12:52] <mitchman> Long Term Support
[12:52] <GaiaX11> I have tried to connect to another machine through ssh, but without any success. Do i have to change anything in /etc/ssh/ssh_config and in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. All the lines are commented.
[12:52] <Red-Sox> Hmm...does the install work well with ATI?
[12:52] <zim_> ty
[12:52] <NigelS_> GaiaX11: what's the response when you try?
[12:52] <Antipodean> sorry, cld anybody here help me with what command lind i'd have 2 use in the terminal to install a whole folder of deb files?
[12:53] <HymnToLife> Red-Sox> ATIs work very well unless you want 3D acceleration
[12:53] <Red-Sox> HymnToLife: So that's not the problem...
[12:53] <zim_> when is dapper going to be uut
[12:53] <zim_> out
[12:53] <crimsun> 1 june
[12:53] <Red-Sox> HymnToLife: Mind if I use your auto complete suffix?
[12:53] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, It hangs
[12:53] <zim_> got help the servers
[12:53] <amphi> HymnToLife: 3d accel works fine here on my ati, with xorg drivers
[12:53] <sflash> LasseL: basically i need to get my username into the admin group and i cant sudo or login as root
[12:53] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, and don't ask the password
[12:53] <Red-Sox> HymnToLife> like this?
[12:54] <HymnToLife> amphi> depends which ATI I guess
[12:54] <LasseL> sflash, sudo vi /dev/hda1/etc/group
[12:54] <Antipodean> sorry, cld anybody here help me with what command lind i'd have 2 use in the terminal to install a whole folder of deb files?
[12:54] <HymnToLife> Red-Sox> no problem
[12:54] <mitchman> antipodean:  are you on dapper?
[12:54] <green_earz> GaiaX11: is the port 22 open on the other machine for ssh ?
[12:54] <Red-Sox> HymnToLife> Thanks for the idea :)
[12:54] <Red-Sox> ibbl
[12:54] <Antipodean> breezy
[12:54] <zim_> smoking routers on 1 june then
[12:54] <amphi> HymnToLife: probably - mine is very trailing edge ;)
[12:54] <sflash> LasseL: are my users groups in there?
[12:54] <HymnToLife> mine is a crappy Mobility Radeon 9100 on a lappy
[12:54] <LasseL> sflash, aye
[12:54] <Antipodean> mitchman: breezy
[12:55] <amphi> HymnToLife: 7500 here ;)
[12:55] <GaiaX11>  /etc/ssh/sshd_config - do i have to config this files in the other machine?
[12:55] <sergiol> hello
[12:55] <NigelS_> GaiaX11: the remote machine could be slow or packets might be being dropped. if you nc it on pt 22 do you see the ssh server string?
[12:55] <Drasla> hey, does anyone know how I would restart vsftpd?
[12:55] <mitchman> antipodean:   sudo apt-get install <packages>
[12:55] <ompaul> HymnToLife, another word for the automatic replacement script
[12:55] <sergiol> how can i remove the packages with rc label on dpkg -l listing?
[12:56] <amphi> HymnToLife: that card's 3d accel should be well supported by xorg
[12:56] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, how do i see that?
[12:56] <Antipodean> mitchman: so theres no command that I can use to install folder containing 200 odd mb worth in one go?
[12:56] <Antipodean> mitchman: just 1 by b1?
[12:56] <NigelS_> GaiaX11: sshd doesn't run by default.  This machine is within reach?
[12:56] <GaiaX11> NigelS_,  /etc/ssh/sshd_config - do i have to config this files in the other machine?
[12:56] <mitchman> I think thats right
[12:56] <Antipodean> mitchman: just 1 by 1?
[12:56] <Antipodean> damn
[12:56] <HymnToLife> amphi> I don't carz bout 3D anyway, but I tried fglrx a wile back and it didn't work
[12:56] <sergiol> i wanna remove the remaining waste of older version of apache
[12:57] <Antipodean> argh
[12:57] <panurge77> exit
[12:57] <mitchman> at least thats how to install over the internet
[12:57] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, all the lines of this file are commented
[12:57] <lukeng> got a problem with ntp-server, dont know how to solve, cant find anything on google
[12:57] <lukeng> this is the problem http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1259/
[12:57] <amphi> HymnToLife: fglrx won't work, I don't think - I only bothered to set up 3d for celestia and stellarium
[12:57] <lukeng> please help!
[12:57] <mitchman> I'm not quite shure how to install local debs
[12:57] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, and this one /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[12:58] <HymnToLife> !tell mitchman about dpkg
[12:58] <lukeng> result of  dapper-drake update today
[12:58] <HymnToLife> damn, I 'm pretty sure I added that one...
[12:58] <HymnToLife> !tell mitchman about deb
[12:58] <Sub> anyone know a way to STOP a package automatically updating?
[12:58] <Antipodean> !tell Antipodean about dpkg
[12:58] <Sub> i use gimpshop, which uses an older version of gimp, and ubuntu keeps trying to update it.
[12:58] <HymnToLife> sub > check "Lock vrsion" in Synaptic
[12:58] <sergiol> $ dpkg -l '*apache*'|grep -v apache2
[12:58] <sergiol> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[12:58] <sergiol> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[12:58] <sergiol> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[12:58] <sergiol> ||/ Name                      Version         Description
[12:58] <sergiol> +++-[12:59] <Sub> ahh, thanks :D
[12:59] <sergiol> un  apache                    <none>          (no description available)
[12:59] <sergiol> rc  apache-common             1.3.33-8ubuntu1 support files for all Apache webservers
[12:59] <sergiol> un  apache-dev                <none>          (no description available)
[12:59] <Sub> !pastebin
[12:59] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[12:59] <HymnToLife> !tell sergiol about pastebin
[01:00] <NigelS_> GaiaX11: you might want to change the sshd settings if you want it to run on a diff port, but the default should be ok, is the ssh server actually running on that machine though?
[01:00] <Poker> how can i remove debsig-verify
[01:00] <Poker> ?
[01:01] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, i'd like to have a look in the /etc/ssh/ssh_config and /etc/ssh/sshd_config of anyone that ssh is working
[01:01] <Verithrax> I have the artwiz fonts installed, but for some reason they don't show up in xfontsel.
[01:01] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, Yah. But all the lines are commented
[01:02] <sergiol> I WANNA SPEAK
[01:02] <GaiaX11> Someone told me that in debian all the lines are uncommented.
[01:02] <ompaul> sergiol that was not a ban but a removal of voice for spamming the channel -  use pastebin
[01:02] <amphi> sergiol: don't shout
[01:02] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, Someone told me that in debian all the lines are uncommented. And it works
[01:02] <PORDO> ANYONE here live in portland?
[01:02] <sergiol> i want to remove the ackages with rc in dpkg -l listing
[01:03] <sergiol> packages
[01:03] <sergiol> rc apache-common 1.3.33-8ubuntu1 support files for all Apache webservers
[01:03] <NigelS_> GaiaX11: you haven't answered the question yet! is the sshd running on the machine you're trying to access?
[01:03] <Seveas> sergiol: dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' | xargs dpkg -P
[01:03] <ompaul> sergiol, you use paste.ubuntu-nl.org for lost of data
[01:03] <sergiol> i wanna get rid of remaining trash of older version of  apache
[01:03] <GaiaX11> I even do not know if it is running in my machine
[01:03] <ompaul> sergiol, lots of data
[01:04] <sflash> LasseL: sorry took a while, so i am in my groups file
[01:04] <GaiaX11> How do i know that
[01:04] <GaiaX11> The other machine is outside my intranet
[01:05] <sflash> LasseL: i can add it there after admin:x:106
[01:05] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, I have to access it through: ssh username@ipnumber
[01:05] <NigelS_> GaiaX11: you don't need the server to be running on your machine to access another with ssh, only if you want someone else to connect to you
[01:06] <sflash> LasseL: i can add it there after admin:x:106:siavash,root is the convention?
[01:06] <LasseL> sflash, no need to put root in
[01:06] <GaiaX11> NigelS_, right!
[01:06] <Fire-NR> i'm trying to install ati drivers, following the wiki binarydrivers howto
[01:06] <Fire-NR> it says do. sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper
[01:06] <sergiol> thanks very much
[01:06] <concept10> what package do I remove to remove some of the older kernels?  is it the linux-image packages?
[01:06] <Fire-NR> and i get couldn't find package module-assistant
[01:07] <Fire-NR> any ideas?
[01:07] <LasseL> sflash, and check the /etc/passwd file while you are at it, see that everything is alright
[01:07] <GaiaX11> NigelS, If my machine has the server, how do i know that sshd is running then?
[01:07] <NigelS> GaiaX11: ps aux | grep sshd
[01:07] <sflash> LasseL: i think everything else is ok, i just lost my group admin which gave me sudo priviliges
[01:07] <tubbie> !grub
[01:07] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:08] <uboat> try the ps command.
[01:08] <sflash> LasseL: i also want to be able to login as root, do you know how to change that or if its a good idea for security issues?
[01:08] <hyphenated> sflash: fix the group admin you lost by booting in 'rescue mode'
[01:09] <LasseL> sflash, sudo is all you need, really, sudo -s to get a root shell
[01:09] <uboat> boot in safe mode and use th passwd command to set the root password.
[01:09] <Maytag> Hey everyone
[01:09] <LasseL> sflash, or sudo passwd
[01:09] <GaiaX11> NigelS, thanks it is running here
[01:09] <GaiaX11> NigelS, I will ask my friend about that
[01:10] <Maytag> I think my harddrive died, so I dl'd the Live cd.  Boots up great, only problem is I can't get online.
[01:10] <NigelS> you can see if something is listening on port 22, the default ssh port GaiaX11 using nmap
[01:10] <jaime> hello
[01:10] <NigelS> GaiaX11: or for example install "nc" and type "nc <ip> 22" and see if an ssh server talks to you
[01:10] <Maytag> I got online once last night, now it no longer connects.
[01:11] <Maytag> Can anyone help?
[01:11] <jaime> i need help putting the audio on my computer
[01:11] <sflash> LasseL: thanks hopefully i can be back to normal, it was a nightmare for a little while
[01:12] <NigelS> GaiaX11: also ssh -v puts ssh in verbose mode
[01:12] <GaiaX11> NigelS, If all the /etc/ssh/ssh_config  lines are commented, does it not block my access to the other PC?
[01:12] <sergiol> oops
[01:12] <uscg_corey> !tell uscg_corey about RestrictedFormats
[01:12] <george_> are there any programs equivalent to clonedvd for linux?
[01:12] <LasseL> sflash, a couple of months ago I edited the userid's in the passwd file - same headache
[01:12] <sergiol> i removed also php
[01:13] <jaime> can anyone help me
[01:13] <ompaul> !helpme
[01:13] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[01:14] <NigelS> GaiaX11: I don't think so, it will use defaults, read the ssh_config man page for config stuff.  By default it will work, if something has changed do a dpkg-reconfigure
[01:14] <GaiaX11> NigelS, ok!
[01:14] <jaime> i need to configure my audio i dont know how to do it becuase i am new to this thing
[01:14] <george_> does anybody know of any programs like clonedvd for linux?
[01:15] <luigi> i need help, my molliza won't open
[01:16] <luigi> can someone help me please
[01:17] <KyoLptp`> how do I enable firefox to print on an hp officejet v40?
[01:17] <luigi> i need help, my molliza won't open
[01:17] <george_> anybody know of dvd copy programs for linux
[01:17] <george_> ?
[01:17] <Maytag> Can I boot the Live cd, with a formatted hd, dl full Ubuntu and burn installation cds?
[01:17] <T-CAN> everytime i try to mount a FAT32 partition (hdb1), i get "mount: only root can do that" message
[01:17] <P3L|C4N0> george_, Gnome Baker, K3b, etc
[01:18] <george_> thanx
[01:18] <wubrgamer> i just found a soundcard for my pentium 2 testbed, and i would like someone to tell me how to install it in ubuntu, it's a soundblaster somethign or other
[01:18] <thingfish> misfit_toy: you hanging out here?
[01:18] <T-CAN> anyone?
[01:19] <ecormier> <T-CAN: what command are you using
[01:19] <drumline_> wubrgamer: have you installed the card into the computer?
[01:19] <T-CAN> mount -t fat32 /dev/hdb1 media/windows
[01:19] <green_earz> george_: dvdbackup to copy dvd  and to rip the vob files : vobcopy and for dvd authoring  : dvdauthor
[01:20] <ecormier> put a "sudo" in front of it
[01:20] <ecormier> sudo  mount -t fat32 /dev/hdb1 media/windows
[01:20] <T-CAN> k, ill give it a shot
[01:20] <luigi> i need help, my molliza opens then closes
[01:20] <T-CAN> thanks
[01:20] <wubrgamer> now i have
[01:20] <wubrgamer> actually.......
[01:20] <wubrgamer> it just worked
[01:20] <wubrgamer> wow
[01:20] <kbrooks> T-CAN:
[01:20] <wubrgamer> i thougth i'd need some help
[01:20] <wubrgamer> but it just works
[01:20] <drumline_> wubrgamer: was gonna say...  "put it in first... .then we'll talk. "   :)
[01:20] <kbrooks> !tell T-CAN about sudo
[01:21] <TSWoodV> wubrgamer: This ain't Windows.  Stuff mostly either works or it doesn't here.
[01:21] <Valehru> hey guys...I installed cvs via apt-get install cvs
[01:21] <Valehru> trying to connect to the wine cvs server
[01:21] <Valehru> but when it asks for the cvs password: "cvs" i get the following error: cvs login: warning: failed to open /home/jonathan/.cvspass for reading: Permission denied
[01:22] <Valehru> which is on my local machine...any ideas?
[01:22] <TSWoodV> wubrgamer: In a bit more technical sense, either the kernel has drivers for the hardware, or there's a slim chance that there's a third-party driver that you can, with varying degrees of success and various amounts of work, get to do the job.
[01:22] <{V0rtexia}> orly
[01:22] <{V0rtexia}> ok
[01:22] <{V0rtexia}> so I'm trying to upgrade my ubuntu box
[01:22] <{V0rtexia}> 2.6.12-10-386
[01:22] <{V0rtexia}> so I downloaded the kernel source
[01:23] <Maytag>  Can I boot the Live cd, with a formatted hd, dl full Ubuntu and burn installation cds?
[01:23] <{V0rtexia}> as /usr/src/linux-2.6.16.18
[01:23] <{V0rtexia}> when I make menuconfig
[01:23] <Valehru> cvs [login aborted] : could not open /home/jonathan/.cvspass for writing: Permission denied
[01:23] <Valehru> which is on the local machine
[01:23] <Jimmer> question, I've got a harddrive with ubuntu on it, and a slave with windows on it, how do I configure grub so that I can boot windows?
[01:23] <{V0rtexia}> I get /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
[01:23] <{V0rtexia}> /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:34:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol KOBJECT_UEVENT
[01:23] <gnomefreak> Valehru: use sudo
[01:23] <{V0rtexia}> lots of those
[01:23] <{V0rtexia}> any ideas?
[01:24] <TSWoodV> {V0rtexia}: From where did you get the source?  www.kernel.org, or via apt-get?
[01:24] <KyoLptp`> Nobody knows how to get a printer working?
[01:24] <Valehru> gnomefreak, ok that error has gone...but it just quits straight to bash once the password us entered
[01:25] <{V0rtexia}> TSWoodV: kernel.org yes
[01:25] <ShastaMaroon> KyoLptp` depends on the printer.
[01:25] <amphi> KyoLptp`: not even esr ;)
[01:25] <gnomefreak> Valehru: is it the right password?
[01:25] <KyoLptp`> HP Officejet v40
[01:25] <Valehru> gnomefreak, well that's the one that appears on the winehq website
[01:25] <KyoLptp`> I click print on a website, nothing happens - this is using Firefox
[01:26] <Valehru> gnomefreak, http://www.winehq.com/site/cvs
[01:26] <ecormier> <KyoLptp: have you set up the printer yet?
[01:26] <ShastaMaroon> KyoLptp` you need the .ppd from: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-OfficeJet_V40
[01:26] <KyoLptp`> That's what I'm trying to find out how to do, I think
[01:26] <Valehru> is there a guide for wine and ubuntu breezy?
[01:26] <gnomefreak> Valehru: sudo uses your user password
[01:26] <Jimmer> anyone know how to get my other drive to boot?
[01:26] <NthDegree> gnomefreak: can you tell me how to sort out my sudoers file?
[01:26] <ecormier> go to the system menu then admin-printing
[01:27] <lewix> where do you guys find your backgrounds ?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Valehru about wine
[01:27] <ShastaMaroon> listen to ecormier, his way is probably easier...
[01:27] <gnomefreak> Valehru: simple instructions are in you rpm
[01:27] <ecormier> <KyoLptp: then go printer - add printer
[01:27] <mpee> is anyone else seeing evolution fail to load spam plugins? (spamassain/bogofilter) I can't find a bug on it
[01:27] <gnomefreak> NthDegree: what did you do to it?
[01:27] <KyoLptp`> ecormier, then where is "printer?"
[01:28] <ecormier> in the menu of the new window that opens
[01:28] <NthDegree> gnomefreak, i set up in expert mode and need to add my user (called user) to it so I can use sudo
[01:28] <KyoLptp`> that opens when?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell NthDegree about sudo
[01:28] <ecormier> <KyoLptp: go "system - admin - printing"
[01:28] <Maytag>  Can I boot the Live cd, with a formatted hd, dl full Ubuntu and burn installation cds?
[01:28] <disinterested_pe> kyolptp when u click on printer
[01:29] <gnomefreak> NthDegree: there should be a command or 2 on that wiki (cant remember them off hand
[01:29] <Jimmer> question, I've got a harddrive with ubuntu on it, and a slave with windows on it, how do I configure grub so that I can boot windows?
[01:29] <Valehru> gnomefreak, when adding the repo for breezy I get the following error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/breezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[01:29] <Fire-NR> FFS :@ this is a bloody nigtmare to get ati drivers installed :|
[01:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Valehru -about easysource
[01:30] <Jowi> Jimmer add something like this: title           Windows [new line]  root            (hd1,0) [new line]  makeactive [new line]  chainloader     +1
[01:30] <gnomefreak> Valehru: theres a wine repo there was working a few weeks ago
[01:30] <Jimmer> k, thanks
[01:31] <Fire-NR> can't get module_assitant installed :|
[01:31] <Fire-NR> says packge not found :|
[01:31] <GaiaX11> NigelS, thanks for the infos!
[01:31] <ecormier> module-assistant
[01:31] <HotDrive> good day all
[01:31] <Fire-NR> thats what i meant
[01:31] <GaiaX11> I will ty to solve the problem with them
[01:31] <ecormier> so sudo apt-get install module-assistant doesn't work?
[01:31] <HotDrive> any one knows how to put a webcam to work?
[01:32] <Jowi> HotDrive: something i found earlier: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam
[01:32] <Cashel> howdies... Anyone know what package lndir would be in?
[01:32] <green_earz> Maytag: if you can download the ubuntu cd by bittorent, two mains reason, its better on bandwithd and the image is check on completion
[01:33] <HotDrive> thanks Jowi, gonna check it out...
[01:33] <Fire-NR> packge module-assistant is not avialbe, but is referred to by anothe rpackage. this may mean that the pakage is msising, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source is what i get now
[01:33] <Jowi> HotDrive: also have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:33] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: try "sudo apt-get update" first
[01:33] <andrew_> hello all
[01:33] <megatron> hello all
[01:33] <HotDrive> one thing... is it for 5.10 or Dapper? OR BOTH?
[01:33] <T-CAN> i just tried to run rythmbox and it said "Failed to create the player: Couldn't initialize scheduler: Did you run gst-register?"
[01:34] <andrew_> I need some help with getting java working
[01:34] <Fire-NR> did that, same error :|
[01:34] <andrew_> there is a problem with my plugins
[01:34] <Jowi> HotDrive: should be the same for both
[01:34] <NigelS> GaiaX11: that's alright, hope you track the problem down
[01:34] <KyoLptp`> uh
[01:34] <ecormier> Fire-NR: there must be something wrong with your repositories
[01:34] <HotDrive> thanks
[01:34] <KyoLptp`> the printer is just messing around now
[01:34] <Fire-NR> :|
[01:34] <KyoLptp`> making sounds and moving
[01:34] <T-CAN> anyone?
[01:34] <KyoLptp`> but not actually... printing...
[01:34] <KyoLptp`> -_-;
[01:34] <megatron> does anyone know how to link a folder from the filesystem to desktop? dumb question!!!
 Fire-NR: there must be something wrong with your repositories ----------- so what can i do now?
[01:35] <ecormier> megatron: click and drag while holding the alt key gives you option "link"
[01:35] <Fire-NR> might just install freebsd on it... know how that works :s
[01:36] <Fire-NR> been trying all day to install this ati driver :( and not having much luck
[01:36] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:36] <andrew_> when I run fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin I get the error No matching plugin was found
[01:36] <Fire-NR> thanks :) will go try that
[01:36] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: you can probably solve your ati problem there too
[01:37] <megatron> well i tired that right, the problem is the folder that im trying to link on my desktop is my e drive which is NTFS... and if do the click and drag it copies the whole folder which i dont want
[01:37] <ecormier> click and drag while pressing the "alt" key
[01:37] <{V0rtexia}> hello, I've downloaded the full kernel source and unzipped it to /usr/src/linux-2.6.16.18, but when I make menuconfig I get lots of stuff like /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
 /boot/conf
[01:37] <mikedep333> !fixboot
[01:37] <ubotu> mikedep333: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:37] <megatron> magic it worked thanks ecormier
[01:38] <ecormier> np
[01:38] <SurfnKid> ok my ntfs partition is mounting automatically and i dont like that
[01:38] <misfit_toy> thingfish, hello my friend
[01:38] <mikedep333> !fixmbr
[01:38] <ubotu> - To put MS-Windows back on a disk that previously had Linux, boot from the Windows disk, go into the recovery console, and type fixmbr.  Another alternative is to type fdisk/mbr
[01:38] <SurfnKid> how can i get to fstab?
[01:38] <SurfnKid> !fstab
[01:38] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions. See also !partitions
[01:38] <Jowi> mikedep333:  !grub is probably what you're looking for
[01:38] <mikedep333> !grub
[01:38] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:38] <thingfish> misfit_toy: hey bud
[01:38] <mikedep333> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows is what I wanted, thanks
[01:38] <thingfish> misfit_toy: what chou up to these days?
[01:38] <Staos> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[01:38] <Jowi> !ops
[01:38] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[01:39] <Antipodean> hey folks, do you know if theres any command I can use instead of "sudo dpkg -i FILEWHATEVER.deb" in order to mass install a great big bunch of local debs?
[01:39] <Fire-NR> ecormier thats what i'm looking at as to how to get the arti driver install
[01:39] <{V0rtexia}> lawl
[01:39] <green_earz> andrew_: check the permisions on jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin   i think it needs to be exeuteable
[01:39] <Seveas> sigh
[01:39] <andrew_> it is
[01:39] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: so whats wrong with the ati install
[01:39] <thingfish> oh hmmm....I recognize that nalioth name from some other channel...
[01:39] <Jowi> thanks Seveas
[01:39] <Antipodean> hey folks, do you know if theres any command I can use instead of "sudo dpkg -i FILEWHATEVER.deb" in order to mass install a great big bunch of local debs?
[01:39] <Sub> Antipodean, use a *.deb to install
[01:40] <RandolphCarter> Antipodean: dpkg -i *.deb?
[01:40] <Antipodean> Sub: thanks mate
[01:40] <RandolphCarter> ack, beaten :(
[01:40] <Fire-NR> the ati driver install fails :|
[01:40] <Sub> like sudo dpkg -i *.deb should do it
[01:40] <Fire-NR> do sudo ./filename.run
[01:40] <thingfish> do madonna videos play good in ubuntu?
[01:40] <ecormier> Antipodean: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[01:40] <Sub> XD RandolphCarter
[01:40] <SurfnKid> !partitions
[01:40] <ubotu> Go to System -> Administration -> Disks and enter your password. Pick the disk your partition is on from the list, then click the 'Partitions' tab. Select the partition you want to mount, set an access path (mount point) and click 'Enable'.
[01:40] <bleech> whats a good cd burning program for gnome?  k3b is supposed to be for kde isnt it?
[01:40] <RandolphCarter> bleech: gnomebaker
[01:40] <Sub> bleech, yes but it works fine in gnome
[01:40] <ShastaMaroon> bleech built it on the kde libraries but it'll work
[01:40] <jldugger> k3b installs on regular ubuntu, and i think its worth the extra space
[01:40] <gnomefreak> bleech: it runs on any desktop
[01:41] <Antipodean> thanks all for ur input ;)
[01:41] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: I use the ubuntu fglrx driver...much less hassle
[01:41] <green_earz> andrew_:      did you install >  java-package
[01:41] <ShastaMaroon> k3b is nice because it works and it's easy.
[01:41] <thingfish> bleech: look for gnomebaker or maybe graveman
[01:41] <Fire-NR> that didn't work either ecormier :| nothing seems to work
[01:41] <bleech> ok
[01:41] <RandolphCarter> whoever's trying to install the ATI driver, you can have it create Ubuntu 6.06 packages for you
[01:41] <bleech> thanks guys
[01:41] <andrew_> yes because I can use well I couldn't apt-get it and so I downloaded it off the debian site and installed it directly
[01:41] <megatron> is their a way to delete all of the panels so that i can have clear desktop with only icons...
[01:41] <ecormier> Fire-NR: what ati card do you have
[01:41] <RandolphCarter> you'll need the kernel-source-2.6.15 package installed first though
[01:41] <Fire-NR> x1800
[01:41] <andrew_> but when I apt-get it, it's the new's one
[01:41] <thingfish> megatron: apt-get install fluxbox
[01:41] <jldugger> if k3b didnt rely on linux specific libraries to burn CDs, I think it'd probably kill nero etc off in a hurry
[01:41] <thingfish> hehe
[01:42] <ecormier> <megatron: right click the panel - properties - autohide
[01:42] <gambit> anybody got a install link for abuntu skype amd64
[01:42] <nalioth> gambit: it won't work on amd64
[01:42] <{V0rtexia}> RandolphCarter: were you talking to me ?
[01:42] <ecormier> Fire-NR: sorry I'm not familiar with that card maybe google "x1800 ubuntu"
[01:42] <nalioth> gambit: skype is closed source and does not have an amd64 version
[01:42] <gambit> ty nalioth
[01:42] <{V0rtexia}> oph
[01:42] <{V0rtexia}> no
[01:42] <{V0rtexia}> ;/
[01:42] <RandolphCarter> {V0rtexia}: I think Fire-NR :P
[01:43] <{V0rtexia}> I've downloaded the full kernel source and unzipped it to /usr/src/linux-2.6.16.18, but when I make menuconfig I get lots of stuff like /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
[01:43] <{V0rtexia}> menuconfig still runs
[01:43] <{V0rtexia}> but.....
[01:43] <RandolphCarter> erk, you're building 2.6.16 on Dapper?
[01:43] <{V0rtexia}> uh ya
[01:43] <{V0rtexia}> :>
[01:43] <Cashel> gambit: you could try running it in a 32bit chroot environment...
[01:43] <RandolphCarter> good luck with that ;) try installing the 'build-essential' and 'kernel-package' packages first
[01:43] <ecormier> RandolphCarter: this is breezy right??
[01:43] <Masqy> which kernel version will be included in dapper?
[01:43] <RandolphCarter> ecormier: yeah
[01:44] <ecormier> ok
[01:44] <{V0rtexia}> uh
[01:44] <{V0rtexia}> actually
[01:44] <{V0rtexia}> RandolphCarter it's breezy
[01:44] <{V0rtexia}> badger
[01:44] <megatron> how do i make fluxbox my default loader?
[01:45] <linchris> why cant I shut down from the quit.. menu?
[01:45] <megatron> instead of using gnome
[01:45] <Fire-NR> i'm following what it says on the ubuntu site but still can't seem to get it working :|
[01:45] <RandolphCarter> {V0rtexia}: try running 'sudo aptitude install build-essential kernel-package gcc libstdc++5' before you try to menuconfig
[01:45] <green_earz> andrew_:      http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142  you are installing  jdk  have a look at the howto which uses the jre java package
[01:45] <Thlayli_> megatron: create a file called .xinitrc in your home directory
[01:46] <Thlayli_> megatron: call the command "echo startfluxbox >> .xinitrc"
[01:46] <Thlayli_> megatron: actually the latter should be enough
[01:46] <andrew_> I did that but I get No matching plugin was found
[01:46] <Thlayli_> megatrin: just echo it
[01:46] <Masqy> I've made a regular ubuntu installation, however, when I boot, I don't want the X and the GDM enviorment to load, I want to start them manually afterwards if I feel like it.. what's the best/painless way?
[01:46] <RandolphCarter> ohh, sorry {V0rtexia}, I just realised what's up, it's trying to autoload your current config
[01:47] <gambit> cashel: could i just burn the regular abuntu iso instead of amd64 and skype work?
[01:47] <Thlayli_> megatron: and disable gdm or what. i think you can also configure gdm to recognize fluxbox as a session
[01:47] <ecormier> Fire-NR: it sucks when something does that to you, but it's usually something silly when you figure it out
[01:47] <andrew_> brb
[01:47] <RandolphCarter> try copying an applicable /boot/config* to .config in the kernel source directory and run 'make oldconfig' before trying to menuconfig
[01:47] <ecormier> Fire-NR: where do things go wrong...you downloaded the driver, changed the xorg.conf and restarted x
[01:48] <Cashel> gambit: You could, but why would you want to? Just make a 32 bit chroot environment that way as a things become 64 bit friendly (As they slowly are) you can retain a pure 64 system...
[01:48] <Jowi> Masqy: remove gdm from for example rc3.d and then change /etc/inittab to launch id:3:initdefault: instead
[01:48] <tuxtheslacker> hey.
[01:48] <Fire-NR> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-26e8b0d4be861a6b7c545dc21c45232f909d8ca2
[01:48] <linchris> why isnt halt/shutdown shown in the quit.. menu?
[01:48] <Fire-NR> i'm trying to do that
[01:48] <megatron> ...thanks thlayli... brb gonna try it out
[01:48] <Masqy> Jowi: and how do I load it afterwards?
[01:48] <Cashel> gambit: there is a rather good howto on making a 32 bit chroot env on ubuntuforums.org
[01:48] <tuxtheslacker> for some reason, my creative webcam notebook crashes my computer when I try to use it.
[01:48] <Fire-NR> but i get eeros when i do sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper ------- the module-assitant doesn't seem to wanna play :|
[01:49] <Jowi> Masqy: "startx" or "gdm" or whatever you feel like
[01:49] <gambit> Cashel: ill look 4 it, im a noob, ty
[01:49] <Masqy> Jowi:thanks..
[01:49] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: try the "Ubuntu provided drivers" method right above that and tell me where it goes wrong
[01:49] <tuxtheslacker> anyone know how I could test to see why this driver crashes my computer?
[01:49] <ecormier> wait nix that last thing
[01:49] <Jaak> what is the diffrence beteem kubuntu and ubuntu?
[01:50] <Seveas> Jaak, kde vs gnome
[01:50] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: one sec
[01:50] <dumaiso> is ubuntu working on intel based macbooks?
[01:50] <crimsun> to some degree, yes, dumaiso
[01:50] <Seveas> dumaiso, you need some hacks
[01:50] <dumaiso> hm...
[01:50] <Jaak> ok, what is prefered
[01:50] <ecormier> Fire-NR: you are brezzy right
[01:50] <Cashel> gambit: just search 32bit chroot , you'll find it... otherwise yes, you can use the 32bit ubuntu by itself (thats what the chroot does) .. except chroot lets you run just the 32bit app itself, leaving everything else the 64bit version..
[01:50] <ecormier> *breezy
[01:51] <Fire-NR> yes erik
[01:51] <Fire-NR> hang on what version is brezzy?
[01:51] <ecormier> not erik....5.10
[01:51] <Fire-NR> :p sorry lack tab skills
[01:51] <Jaak> Seveas, is there a vs list somewhere so i can compare?
[01:51] <HotDrive> Jowi: Installed the Easycam2, still nothing... :(
[01:51] <ecormier> so you're 5.10
[01:52] <Fire-NR> no hang on
[01:52] <ecormier> ok
[01:52] <Fire-NR> uname -a is linux ubunt 2.6.11-9-adm64
[01:52] <HotDrive> system says that connot connect to device /dev/video0
[01:52] <Jowi> HotDrive: I said I found the webcam link. I didn't say I tested it. My webcam died just before I installed Ubuntu :)
[01:52] <ecormier> whats a good way to find the version of ubuntu from the command line anyone
[01:52] <HotDrive> :) ok ok
[01:52] <Seveas> Jaak, http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/dapper/desktop vs http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/kubuntu-dapper/desktop
[01:53] <Touru> What media player would anyone suggest for a reeeeeeally long playlist? Mostly mp3, but some ogg, etcetera.
[01:53] <HotDrive> any more ideas?
[01:53] <skippy81> rhythmbox Touru
[01:53] <spikeb> heh
[01:53] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: that didn't help me...hang on
[01:53] <Trashcan> i have a script running at boot before ntpdate that runs dhclient and obtains an address
[01:53] <Touru> skippy81: Takes forever and three quarters to load. =/
[01:53] <Jaak> thanks and good night
[01:54] <Trashcan> can anyone tell me what might be the best way to check if it was successful?
[01:54] <Trashcan> it does the [OK]  or [FAIL]  thing if it errors
[01:54] <HotDrive> Ubuntu recognizes my camera, I tested it with hardinfo, but no program can access it
[01:54] <ecormier> what version of gnome are you runnning "system - about gnome
[01:54] <Trashcan> but makes no check to see if it actually got an address
[01:54] <skippy81> hmm thats strange Touru, i use it for my millions of smiths albums and it does an ok job
[01:54] <skippy81> but i dont use playlists as such, i just have the albums sorted
[01:55] <skippy81> xmms and beep are small and fast but their playlists are poorly featured
[01:55] <Touru> It's not too bad, but there are some frustrations. I switched to XMMS as a result, but it keeps crashing on me.
[01:55] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: what version of gnome are you runnning "system - about gnome"
[01:55] <SurfnKid> If i disable the NTFS partition on the System Administration Disks section, it shouldnt mount anything on reboot?
[01:55] <HotDrive> how can I know wish type of driver to use with my camera, to see if I have the correct one intalled
[01:55] <Touru> skippy81: I think the problem is that I have ~60GB of music, and like to just add it all and play on shuffle... hehe.
[01:55] <skippy81> Touru:  you could try Beep Media Player, its just like xmms but a bit less bloated and more stable
[01:55] <skippy81> hehe 60 gb is a lot :)
[01:55] <Touru> Ah, I'll do that.
[01:55] <tuxtheslacker> hey, is there aynone in here that uses the creative webcam notebook pd1171?  gnomemeeting, and several others find the webcam, but they also crash my machine when I try to use it.
[01:56] <skippy81> Touru:  you could try Amarok, i know its KDE but it should work on gnome
[01:56] <skippy81> its supposed to be the best for serious music collections
[01:56] <bleech> how stable is xgl w/ 6.06?
[01:56] <bleech> does anyone use it?
[01:56] <Touru> Interesting.
[01:56] <skippy81> bleech:  very stable
[01:56] <Sub> bleech, yes i do
[01:56] <Sub> but
[01:56] <Sub> !dapper
[01:56] <bleech> i really want to test it out
[01:56] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[01:56] <Sub> and
[01:56] <Sub> !xgl
[01:56] <ubotu> xgl is, like, totally, "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[01:56] <Touru> When you install one KDE program, though, don't you get 4298749234 billion KDE bits and pieces?
[01:56] <bleech> thanks again
[01:56] <Sub> Touru, yes normally.
[01:57] <Touru> spikeb: Haha, if I had the knowledge to do that, I would.
[01:57] <skippy81> bleech:  compiz has crashed on me, but xgl never has
[01:57] <spikeb_> Touru: me too!
[01:57] <T`> the synaptic touchpad goes into weird states sometimes
[01:57] <nomad411> Hi all.. I'm sure it's asked often, but is there a real difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu? Short of the default desktop used?
[01:57] <Fire-NR> ecormier i can't get xserver running :|
[01:57] <T`> like noe everytime i tap it gives middle button
[01:57] <Sub> Touru, Armarok and k3b are the only decent KDE apps, but worth the lib IMO
[01:57] <T`> the only way to fix is to reboot into windows and back
[01:57] <Sub> armarok is excellet
[01:57] <T`> anyone know how to fix this?
[01:57] <andrew_> back
[01:57] <HymnToLife> nomad411> none at all
[01:57] <ecormier> Fire-NR: right ....hmmm ok it shouldn't matter...try this
[01:57] <skippy81> Touru:  try amarok in synaptic, i dont think it will tick many extra packages
[01:57] <spikeb_> kopete is great as well
[01:57] <Jowi> HotDrive: easiest way is to do a "quick search" here and click "show" for your model: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/
[01:58] <andrew_> so it's something to do with my plugins I think
[01:58] <Touru> Hmmm... guess I'll try beep first, and resort to Amarok if necessary.
[01:58] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:58] <tomek_> why, oh why, wXP started up in 1 min, on my old machine, wchile ubuntu takes almost 3 mins to start.... ???
[01:58] <nomad411> HymnToLife: thanks..  I look forward to trying out this new version, according to shalshdot, this is one major nice release..
[01:58] <HymnToLife> spikeb > but still has that annoying bug on MSN filetransfer
[01:58] <HymnToLife> or was it fixed ?
[01:58] <skippy81> Touru:  yeah beep is good, its like xmms lite :) it uses winamp skins so at least it can look funky
[01:58] <SurfnKid> tomek thats what i was thinking too, but i think its the modules that have to come up? mine takes about a minute sometimes depending on whats loading
[01:59] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: let me know if each step works or not
[01:59] <Sub> skippy81, can u get it to support wma?
[01:59] <tomek_> SurfnKid: so why does WinXP have all the features Ubuntu has, still loading three times faster?
[01:59] <ecormier> Fire-NR: you have 2 computers (how are you chatting?)
[02:00] <Touru> Amarok only selects about nine other items... not bad, I guess.
[02:00] <skippy81> Sub: im not sure mate, ive never used WMA in linux (64 bit user)
[02:00] <cello_rasp> how do i view videos encoded with h.264? breezy's vlc doesn't seem to have it
[02:00] <Masqy> as the default installation, runlevels 2 and 3 are identical?
[02:00] <SurfnKid> good question, well that i dont know, i guess you have to tweak ubuntu to load up faster i assume with less devices or modules
[02:00] <ecormier> Fire-NR: what card did you say it was again
[02:01] <skippy81> im a big wma hater ever since Windows Media player DRMed 3000 of my mates tunes he had ripped without telling him
[02:01] <cello_rasp> Sub: automatix should install the appropriate software
[02:01] <Fire-NR> ati x1800
[02:01] <Fire-NR> says it's the newest version installed.
[02:01] <skippy81> M$ had to remove the automatic drm because they got so many complaints about it
[02:01] <cello_rasp> skippy81: haha
[02:01] <SurfnKid> my WXP will start fine but after a few months the speed will age and it will be so slow to load that its ridiculous
[02:02] <orangey> hey all!
[02:02] <ecormier> Fire-NR: it doesn't say it supports it ... see http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.16.20.html#173867
[02:02] <ecormier> we'll continue anyway
[02:02] <Cashel> Fire-NR: googling "xoomer fglrx" will get you a link with some handy info in it...
[02:02] <cello_rasp> again, any h.264 in ubuntu?
[02:02] <ecormier> next : sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:02] <orangey> quick q about evolution: It sometimes messes up HTML messages, and shows the actual HTML. This doesn't happen for all messages, though. Is there some way I can force evolution to interpret the message as html?
[02:02] <NigelS> Touru: not sure how ubuntu handles this but an issue with linux boot times is often that everything loads sequentially, even when it really could be loading in parallel.  There are efforts about to fix this...not sure whether ubuntu has started to incorporate them.  It also depends on what hw you have and services you run.  Does it take a long time at any particular point?
[02:02] <Cashel> oh x1800, not 800.. my bad... still may be worth looking at tho...
[02:02] <{V0rtexia}> RandolphCarter: same thing.
[02:03] <Fire-NR> it's a all in wonder card
[02:03] <Fire-NR> so it's supported
[02:03] <Fire-NR> hmm
[02:03] <Masqy> as the default installation, runlevels 2 and 3 are identical?
[02:03] <ecormier> next command work??
[02:03] <Jowi> Masqy: "diff /etc/rc2.d /etc/rc3.d" will tell you
[02:03] <Lueinden> Is there an option to upgrade from 5.10 to Dapper on the CD?
[02:03] <rever> HI could someone tell me how I can install the latest mythtv on dapper?
[02:03] <Lueinden> for Dapper, that is.
[02:04] <skippy81> Lueinden:  yes you can add the CD to sources list and do a dist-upgrade i believe
[02:04] <Lueinden> Okie dokie.  No worries.
[02:04] <orangey> alternatively, what channel has that sort of support? (for Evolution)
[02:04] <skippy81> in fact it may even auto run
[02:04] <Lueinden> 56kers here shudder at the thought of huge downloads
[02:04] <Lueinden> :)
[02:05] <kbrooks> skippy81: it doesn't.
[02:05] <skippy81> ah ok thx kbrooks, well you will have to add it to sources then Lueinden
[02:05] <Jowi> Masqy: if the result is nothing, that means that they are the same since diff only print the difference
[02:05] <whiter> how can i change that icon on the applications menu
[02:05] <whiter> or remove it
[02:05] <Lueinden> Okie dokie.
[02:05] <tuxtheslacker> hey, why would a webcam driver crash my computer?
[02:05] <tuxtheslacker> like it doesn't crash until i start up gnome conf, and try to use it.
[02:05] <Fire-NR> ecormier> it's a all in wonder card so it is supported
[02:05] <ecormier> Fire-NR: are you amd64
[02:05] <skippy81> whiter, do you mean the new dapper icon? its awful lol
[02:06] <SurfnKid> does anyone have an inspiron laptop here?
[02:06] <whiter> yes skippy
[02:06] <skippy81> i thought id broke something when i say it :D
[02:06] <Fire-NR> yup i just saw that :(
[02:06] <SurfnKid> I really want to get the lm-sensors up
[02:06] <Lueinden> Once I install dapper, does anyone think I'll be able to keep up with the updates on a 56k?
[02:06] <whiter> the one on the left of "Applications"
[02:06] <skippy81> its really bad lol
[02:06] <ecormier> 64-bit users:You have to downgrade to an older version of libdri.a due to an incompatilbity with the ATI drivers.
[02:06] <Lueinden> I hated the brown of Ubuntu 5.10 :/
[02:06] <kbrooks> skippy81: show me a screenshot
[02:06] <whiter> jesus how do i get rid of that ugly icon its messing up my whole theme
[02:06] <Masqy> Jowi: already did that, just wanted to make sure:) is  'sudo rm XXX' when XXX is a symbolic link, it only deletes the link itself, and not the file, right?
[02:06] <whiter> lol
[02:06] <green_earz> Lueinden: i think its some like sudo apt-cdrom   then apt-get update    then apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:06] <spikeb_> Lueinden: heh, brown is now blinding orange
[02:06] <skippy81> kbrooks:  sure, give me a couple of min and ill get you one :)
[02:06] <Lueinden> Uh oh...
[02:06] <xcccc> www.worldcupyears.com
[02:06] <ecormier> <Fire-NR: I gotta go get beer...sorry I couldn't help, but thats the problem...the amd64 thing
[02:06] <Lueinden> Why not a cool color like blue or green?
[02:07] <poningru> how do I configure it to use a wireless network as soon as a wired connection is taken out
[02:07] <Fire-NR> thanks ecormier
[02:07] <kbrooks> amd64 sucks.
[02:07] <ecormier> np
[02:07] <Fire-NR> yer kbrooks tell me about it
[02:07] <Fire-NR> stupid mistake buying one
[02:07] <kbrooks> Lueinden: because it's too....cool
[02:07] <Lueinden> AMD 64s are bad?
[02:07] <poningru> not true
[02:07] <Jowi> Masqy: yeah, make sure you delete the one in /etc/rcX.d and not the one in /etc/init.d. another way of doing it is just to rename S13gdm to K13gdm
[02:07] <Fire-NR> they are for driver support etc.
[02:07] <poningru> if you run the 64bit os then yes they are bad
[02:07] <Lueinden> oh
[02:07] <ecormier> Fire-NR: definitely check out what the guide says about it
[02:07] <Fire-NR> still running 31bit windows on mine
[02:07] <poningru> since there is like no drivers for them
[02:07] <ShastaMaroon> Is there an apt-get option to update everything?
[02:07] <Fire-NR> 32*
[02:08] <ecormier> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide
[02:08] <Lueinden> I'll stick with 32 bit for a while, then.
[02:08] <Lueinden> ;)
[02:08] <Fire-NR> i will do :) will look at it tomorrow
[02:08] <Masqy> Jowi: K13gdm will not be run by run-parts ?
[02:08] <xcccc> www.worldcupyears.com
[02:08] <kbrooks> Fire-NR: LOL. 31bit windows
[02:08] <poningru> ShastaMaroon: apt-get update
[02:08] <Fire-NR> it's late here :p
[02:08] <Jowi> Masqy: only S* will be run
[02:08] <RandolphCarter> aww man, that guy was just in #c
[02:08] <tuxtheslacker> can someone tell me something that will make my freaking webcam not crash my computer when I try to use it? This thing is really bothering me :-(
[02:08] <tomek_> SurfnKid: I mean the whole Ubuntu think seems like unusually slow comparing to my former XP system... Just drag a window andit leaves a nasty trace behind.. its generally slow... maybe you didnt notice that on your machine, but on a good old 600 mhz Duron here it shows quite q bit..
[02:08] <kbrooks> xcccc: stop spamming, spammer
[02:08] <gnomefreak> Lueinden: alot of non-free apps dont work on 64bit thats one reason why people say that
[02:08] <Masqy> Jowi: thanks.
[02:08] <gnomefreak> xcccc: stop that
[02:08] <Fire-NR> easy mistake :p
[02:08] <Lueinden> Note to self: Do not buy a 64 bit processor.
[02:08] <whiter> does anyone know how to disable/change the icon to the left of "Applications" menu?
[02:09] <squiggly> whyever not Lueinden?
[02:09] <kbrooks> whiter: the icon is hidden.
[02:09] <Lueinden> gnomefreak's reason.
[02:09] <ShastaMaroon> 64-bit is good as long as you know what you use supports it.
[02:09] <Lueinden> lol
[02:09] <SurfnKid> tomek ouch leaves traces on ubuntu?
[02:09] <ShastaMaroon> Like if you run solaris, of course you want a 64-bit machine.
[02:09] <whiter> kbrooks if it was hidden i wouldnt be able to see it
[02:09] <gnomefreak> ubuntu has full support for 64 bit archs
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker> hey, gnomefreak are oyu there? and can you help me out with a webcam issue?
[02:09] <SurfnKid> I dont seem to notice it, could be my memory too
[02:09] <poningru> ShastaMaroon: err apt-get upgrade
[02:09] <Lueinden> oooooo
[02:09] <RandolphCarter> running 32-bit on AMD64 isn't so bad though, smp goodness (doing that here)
[02:09] <kbrooks> whiter: you will never find it on your system
[02:09] <SurfnKid> eww webcam
[02:09] <Lueinden> I'm thinking of buying a laptop with money made this summer...
[02:09] <whiter> kbrooks i dont care where it is
[02:09] <void^> 64bit is currently a waste of money on a desktop, basically.
[02:09] <whiter> i just want to change it
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker> SurfnKid, d'you think u can help me out?
[02:09] <michael117> What command can I use to wipe an entire hard drive clean of data and its partitions to be formatted again and ready for use?
[02:09] <SurfnKid> ubuntu froze trying to enable webacam
[02:09] <whiter> or disable it
[02:09] <ShastaMaroon> poningru cool, thanks.  I'm used to emerge and yum
[02:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tuxtheslacker -about webcam
[02:10] <Fire-NR> don't help, getting pissed off with this :( can't get it working :@
[02:10] <Lueinden> I want either A) Durability or B) Power :P
[02:10] <poningru> ShastaMaroon: hehe true
[02:10] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: i cant but maybe that site can
[02:10] <tomek_> SurfnKid: I mean like trails when you drag a window quickly... you know what i mean
[02:10] <squiggly> If I were you, I wouldn't set myself back in technology
[02:10] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, this one freezes my webcam?
[02:10] <Fire-NR> void^ i agree but it's nice :p
[02:10] <MENDIGO> I need help with this: New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong.
[02:10] <MENDIGO> Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).
[02:10] <kbrooks> squiggly: meaning what?
[02:10] <tuxtheslacker> the drivers are installed, and it's auto detected.
[02:10] <tuxtheslacker> just when I load it my system goes "boom"
[02:10] <SurfnKid> yes tomek_ sometimes i get that, cpu is speedstep so sometimes they come and go
[02:10] <SurfnKid> tuxtheslacker i would if i knew how to
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker> SurfnKid, Thanks :-D
[02:11] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: that i dont know (low on memory?
[02:11] <squiggly> Meaning... I predict 64bit applications to be more used and important in a year, maybe less
[02:11] <SurfnKid> np mate
[02:11] <Fire-NR> does ubuntu have ssh server enabled by default?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> Fire-NR: no run sudo apt-get isntall openssh-server
[02:12] <gnomefreak> install*
[02:12] <skippy81> kbrooks:  as promised http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/9841/dapperbuttonlol5qe.jpg
[02:12] <SurfnKid> Maybe I should install Ubuntu on my 500Mhz Vaio 128mb RAM 2.5MB VIDEO CARD! computer   does it sound like it would work?
[02:12] <skippy81> and anyone else who wants to laugh at the new dapper button :D http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/9841/dapperbuttonlol5qe.jpg
[02:12] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: yes
[02:12] <tomek_> the other problem i have is I did know find that far a solid web dev tool, like dreamweaver was. I tried bluefish, its quite ok, can sb suggest anything apart from that?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> SurfnKid: it better
[02:12] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, this detects it as the wrong one...
[02:12] <sopido> hi is there a way to query vesa modes for framebuffer? on the "unoffice bootsplash howto" there a just modes up to 1280x1024 .. i wonder if i can find out a mode for 1920x1200 on my nvidia card?!
[02:12] <gnomefreak> could use lil more ram but it will run fine on 128
[02:13] <tuxtheslacker> is there a way that I can change the bridge to read it as 1170, instead of 1171, and if so, how?
[02:13] <{V0rtexia}> I've downloaded the full kernel source and unzipped it to /usr/src/linux-2.6.16.18, but when I make menuconfig I get lots of stuff like /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
[02:13] <poningru> SurfnKid: that will work but it would be very sluggish
[02:13] <tuxtheslacker> http://feanor.sssup.it/~pj/linux/creative_webcam_notebook.html
[02:13] <SurfnKid> kbrooks sweet
[02:13] <Lueinden> Eeew
[02:13] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, &&
[02:13] <tuxtheslacker> ^^*
[02:13] <poningru> SurfnKid: I would say put something like gentoo
[02:13] <kbrooks> skippy81: uh. im not sure thats a great icon
[02:13] <green_earz> tomek_: there allso quanta web design
[02:13] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: your asking wrong person i havent used a webcam in many years
[02:13] <kbrooks> poningru: dio not recommend gentoo in here
[02:13] <poningru> hehe
[02:13] <poningru> :P
[02:14] <gnomefreak> dont he meant
[02:14] <kbrooks> poningru: source distros aint good for newbies
[02:14] <SurfnKid> good idea ponigru thatll give me a bit to play with another linux flavor
[02:14] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: no, dont
[02:14] <skippy81> yeah gentoo is hardcore :)
[02:14] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: play with other linux flavours later
[02:14] <poningru> SurfnKid: belay that... its a very tough distro to get up and running
[02:14] <Ophiocus> i know its not oficial but i just wanted to say dappers iconery is SEXY!! tip o the hat to all ya graphics gurus out there
[02:14] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: try ubuntu, see if you like it
[02:14] <skippy81> ubuntu has a good balance IMO between ease of use and 'proper' linux system
[02:14] <kbrooks> Ophiocus: iconery?
[02:14] <SurfnKid> kbrooks well im happy with it now on this 1.4Ghz box
[02:14] <skippy81> stuff like Linspire just looks aweful to me
[02:15] <poningru> kbrooks: iconery
[02:15] <skippy81> im not a big fan of SUSE either
[02:15] <Ophiocus> icons and desktop artistry
[02:15] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, okay, I understand, can you look on that website and tell me if you're reading it a little differently than me?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> SurfnKid: try xubuntu
[02:15] <gnomefreak> its light weight not alot of ram needed
[02:15] <Mindtzar> anyone have any idea how I can compile something into a static binary?
[02:15] <SurfnKid> i wouldnt mind getting it on the vaio, knoppix DVD worked, the prob was it booted from CD so was very slow
[02:15] <SurfnKid> xubuntu?
[02:15] <poningru> SurfnKid: expect that to be a little bit harder to get used to...
[02:15] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: #xubuntu
[02:15] <SurfnKid> is that like Hummer 3 instead of Hummer 1
[02:15] <disinterested_pe> im still trying to get my sound to work from the keyboard
[02:15] <SurfnKid> :P
[02:15] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: im not reading anything right now except on what im doing
[02:16] <poningru> !tell SurfnKid about xubuntu
[02:16] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: its a magic tiny memory ubuntu solution
[02:16] <skippy81> Slackware used to be my fave distro, but the dude who maintained it got and now ubuntu is by far the best distro
[02:16] <SurfnKid> thanx
[02:16] <kbrooks> !forget poningru
[02:16] <ubotu> kbrooks: i didn't have anything called 'poningru'
[02:16] <SurfnKid> cool
[02:16] <Mindtzar> anyone have any idea how I can compile something into a static binary?
[02:16] <SurfnKid> sounds interesting
[02:16] <kbrooks> lol
[02:16] <poningru> arr?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> SurfnKid: its a lightweight gnome (atleast its starting to look like gnome
[02:16] <NthDegree> !bug1
[02:16] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NthDegree
[02:16] <Cashel> Mindtzar: usualy there will be instructions.... ./configure  then  make  then  make install  are typical commands...
[02:16] <kbrooks> !forget the existence of poningru
[02:16] <ubotu> i didn't have anything called 'the existence of poningru', kbrooks
[02:16] <Ophiocus> disinterested_pe: for special keys lookup the bind files for your keyboard, i dont remember how but i know thats the right path
[02:16] <spikeb_> !bug 1
[02:16] <ubotu> spikeb_: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:16] <poningru> rofl
[02:16] <spikeb_> bah
[02:16] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, oh okay, didn't know u were working on something else.
[02:16] <SurfnKid> never kenw the diff between gnome and kde
[02:16] <disinterested_pe> hummmm?
[02:16] <NthDegree> !forget about ubuntu :P
[02:16] <ubotu> NthDegree: i didn't have anything called 'about ubuntu :p'
[02:17] <SurfnKid> i would love to get 3dDesktop going
[02:17] <SurfnKid> that would make my day
[02:17] <kbrooks> spikeb_: goto #ubuntu-bugs and type "bug 1"
[02:17] <SurfnKid> anyone mess with it?
[02:17] <poningru> SurfnKid: eh I dont think you can with that hardware
[02:17] <disinterested_pe> the volume bar goes up and down but the sound doesnt
[02:17] <tuxtheslacker> [4296826.795000]  drivers/usb/media/spca5xx/spca5xx-core.c: USB SPCA5XX camera found. Type Creative Webcam Notebook Zc301+Tas5130c
[02:17] <Ophiocus> SurfnKid: what you need with it?
[02:17] <xcccc>  WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM WWW.WORLDCUPYEARS.COM
[02:17] <poningru> !ops
[02:17] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[02:17] <Jowi> SurfnKid: yep. it works fine
[02:17] <SurfnKid> ponigru i have 2 laptops  500mhz 2.5mb memory and 1.4ghz 128ATI
[02:17] <SurfnKid> im on the 1.4 now
[02:18] <tuxtheslacker> that looks like it worked, and then all of a sudden, when I try to use it, it breaks....
[02:18] <tuxtheslacker> anyone have any idea?
[02:18] <SurfnKid> Jowi really
[02:18] <tomek_> K, what is the basic system you think, i mean i386, that will let you work flawlessly with ubuntu..? Should 650 Mhz Duron 256 MB RAM be enuf?
[02:18] <SurfnKid> Jowi Whats a good window manager, I couldnt get that going
[02:18] <{V0rtexia}> I've downloaded the full kernel source and unzipped it to /usr/src/linux-2.6.16.18, but when I make menuconfig I get lots of stuff like /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
[02:18] <kbrooks> k, not porn
[02:19] <spikeb_> tomek_: yes, that duron would be enough
[02:19] <poningru> nalioth: :)
[02:19] <kbrooks> nalioth: ty
[02:19] <kbrooks> nalioth: wondrousful master :P
[02:19] <Jowi> SurfnKid: absolutely. i just put "3ddesk --aquire=5000 &" in my ~/.xsession file. then bind some keys to do "3ddesk --gotoleft" and "3ddesk --gotoright"
[02:19] <skippy81> guys, whats the score with flac as a format to store music? is the sound quality really all that?
[02:19] <spikeb_> skippy81: oh yeah
[02:19] <skippy81> im thinking of using it from now on, i really notice the loss from mp3
[02:19] <Jowi> SurfnKid: I used both sawfish, pekwm and pwm without a problem
[02:19] <green_earz> {V0rtexia}: apt-get your kernel source
[02:20] <spikeb_> skippy81: flac or high bitrate ogg is where it is at
[02:20] <SurfnKid> Jowi english my friend lol, man  that sounds like i might have to do a step by step to learn this :P
[02:20] <skippy81> ogg seems to drive my bass speakers a bit better than mp3, but im hoping flac will be even better :)
[02:20] <spikeb_> skippy81: it will be
[02:20] <SurfnKid> i just like the 3desktop to shock my windows xp community in this town
[02:20] <SurfnKid> they all think linux is a drink
[02:20] <skippy81> cool spikeb_ ill start ripping too flac then, hard disk space isnt really an issue these days :)
[02:20] <Zaire> anyone know what could cause gaim to crash ubuntu?
[02:20] <Sub> skippy81, thats because mp3's compression does it by limiting the frequency range
[02:21] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: drink?
[02:21] <Sub> so u loose lowe bass and high treble
[02:21] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: LOKL
[02:21] <kbrooks> LOL*
[02:21] <SurfnKid> kbrooks tell me about it
[02:21] <skippy81> yeah Sub, it seems to limit it in all the wrong places as well hehe
[02:21] <Sub> skippy81, flac retains all the audio infomation so it'll sound MUCH better
[02:21] <SurfnKid> Jowi ok, ill have to check those wm
[02:21] <NigelS> 3ddesk!
[02:21] <NigelS> that's old hat for impressing windows friends
[02:21] <Jowi> SurfnKid: nah. it is not so difficult. if you use gnome, you can put "3ddesk --aquire=5000" in the session startup. That will make 3ddesk take screenshots of all your desktops. I dont use gnome anymore so i can't guide you there.
[02:21] <kbrooks> is there a way to compress things such that its sooooooo small?
[02:22] <skippy81> cool, im going to rip a cd with flac now :)
[02:22] <nalioth> skippy81: flac is lossless audio, ogg and mp3 are lossy audio.  may i suggest you research the www for their pros and cons
[02:22] <nalioth> kbrooks: bzip2
[02:22] <SurfnKid> Jowi what do u use?
[02:22] <NigelS> the only thing worth impressing windows users is Compiz :)
[02:22] <skippy81> ok i will, i assume that you do get some compression with flac though?
[02:23] <Masqy> Ok.. that's weird.. tried changing the default runlevel to 3, remover the Sgdm link from /etc/rd.3/ (renamed it to Kgdm), and when I booted to runlevel 3, the ppp interface (my internet connection) was not started.. back in old 1985 now:)
[02:23] <skippy81> i mean it wont be the size of a wav lol :)
[02:23] <Jowi> SurfnKid: at the moment i'm testing pekwm. it is fantastic but have alot of options (good for some people like me, annoying for others)
[02:23] <poningru> skippy81: yeah you will get some compression
[02:23] <skippy81> lol Masqy stars in Back to the Future IV
[02:23] <{V0rtexia}> I've downloaded the full kernel source and unzipped it to /usr/src/linux-2.6.16.18, but when I make menuconfig I get lots of stuff like /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
[02:23] <{V0rtexia}> I've downloaded the full kernel source and unzipped it to /usr/src/linux-2.6.16.18, but when I make menuconfig I get lots of stuff like /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
[02:23] <{V0rtexia}> ?!?!?!
[02:23] <SurfnKid> right
[02:23] <{V0rtexia}> ANY IDEAS ?!
[02:23] <Jowi> SurfnKid: if you want something fast, stable and easy. go with sawfish
[02:23] <SurfnKid> good its working out for ya
[02:24] <JimH_> can someone help with vnc from windows xp box to ubuntu ... I am able to go from ubuntu to windows but not visa versa ... I have tried ssh with ip but cannot go the other way
[02:24] <Masqy> skippy81: just watched for the zillion time the triology last night :)
[02:24] <skippy81> lol
[02:24] <SurfnKid> yeah i mean i have no issues with the video card so far i think, so im hoping that itll produce some nice graphics, otherwise i'll kill 3ddesk
[02:24] <skippy81> I watched "Doctor Strangelove" while i was chatting on the IRC last night :)
[02:24] <SurfnKid> i just saw something on google that caught my attention and i thought it was awesome to work with
[02:24] <amphi> SurfnKid: yeah, just kill it
[02:25] <NigelS> SurfnKid: 3ddesk is a hack, use compiz :P
[02:25] <amphi> just use gnu screen
[02:25] <NigelS> :) aren't we all?
[02:25] <skippy81> SurfnKid: there is also something called gnome-compmgr which is kinda like a cut down compiz
[02:25] <spikeb_> lol compiz/xgl are hacks as well
[02:25] <SurfnKid> ta hell is compiz
[02:25] <||arifaX> JimH_, you need vncserver installed
[02:25] <Masqy> skippy81: that one I nearly know by heart.. and also found myself a connection between the two :)
[02:25] <gnomefreak> NigelS: i think you have that backwards compiz and xgl are the hacked apps
[02:25] <amphi> SurfnKid: unstable eye candy
[02:25] <tomek_> thx for all the tips so far,I have one more to ask - how can I check my HD for errors or bad sectors or whatever on ubuntu?
[02:26] <JimH_> how do I start it arifax
[02:26] <SurfnKid> english people!!!
[02:26] <amphi> tomek_: badblocks
[02:26] <SurfnKid> hehehe
[02:26] <Jowi> compiz is overkill. 3ddesk work fine on my low-end computer
[02:26] <SurfnKid> i have to really do some research on all those things guys
[02:26] <NigelS> gnomefreak: yeah, I think taking static screenshots and putting them on an gl cube is a fairly hacky way of persuading your windows friends that linux has 3d desktop effects
[02:26] <SurfnKid> but so far im just proud i got the music and wlan0 going
[02:27] <SurfnKid> the rest ill learn to live without it for now
[02:27] <NigelS> Jowi: comparing the 2 is like comparing apples and screwdrivers..they're not really the same area
[02:27] <||arifaX> JimH_ never used it under ubuntu. can someone help JimH_ with that?
[02:27] <skippy81> SurfnKid, dont worry, theres no rush with XGL/Compiz they have yet to mature
[02:27] <||arifaX> I think its vncserver
[02:27] <Jowi> NigelS: exactly
[02:27] <JimH_> ty
[02:28] <SurfnKid> Nigels is that not how 3Ddesktop is then?
[02:28] <JimH_> I pref to use putty
[02:28] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[02:28] <tomek_> amphi: sorry for being such a moron, but what exactly do i have to type: badblocks -what?
[02:28] <NigelS> Jowi: then saying it's overkill, I use 3ddesk as an *alternative* doesn't really parse
[02:28] <skippy81> but be rest assured that when Vista hits the shelves you will allready have some hardcore eyecandy curteousy of the Penguin :)
[02:28] <HotDrive> anyone can tell me how to install sn9c102?
[02:28] <SurfnKid> any other way to check there is a correct ATI driver installed other than the grep command to see the Driver?
[02:29] <ShastaMaroon> Who is 'hal' and why is he in my /etc/group file?
[02:29] <NigelS> SurfnKid: 3ddesk takes screenshots, compiz/xgl has actual rendering in realtime and in my experience the last few updates have reall
[02:29] <Jowi> NigelS: well SurfnKid asked about 3ddesk so that's what we were discussing
[02:29] <NigelS> SurfnKid: improved the stability
[02:29] <amphi> tomek_: man badblocks - you want non-destructive, probably; if it's a recent drive, you'd probably be better off to use smartctl to run the drive's onboard diagnostics
[02:29] <HotDrive> Jowi: I've tried almost every program in the repositories... still the same error
[02:29] <skippy81> 3dDesk probably has its merits
[02:29] <skippy81> i imagine it has a lower overhead than xgl
[02:30] <Fire-NR> hmm i've done somthing wrong.. fglrxinfo --- Error: unlable to open display :0
[02:30] <spikeb_> much much lower
[02:30] <SurfnKid> Yeah 3dDesk, or something that will have rendering
[02:30] <NigelS> Jowi: I think what you said didn't make sense anyway, but it's really not important
[02:30] <amphi> NigelS: apparently, it breaks some opengl progs
[02:30] <NigelS> yes it will
[02:30] <mkoby> Hi all, I have a rackmount KVM switch and two rackmount Ethernet switches, they all have female RS-232 ports on them, and I'm wondering if I need to buy a null-modem or regular cable to connect them to my computer.
[02:30] <amphi> NigelS: any idea why?
[02:31] <SurfnKid> I just want to take advantage of the fact that my UT2004 game on XP is so awesome, so i gotta take advantage of the card in linux
[02:31] <NigelS> but all I'm saying is that if I had to impress some windows friends, I'd fire up compiz for a session and show them the non-buggy bits above a lame demo of 3ddesk that is so 2000 :P
[02:31] <Jowi> NigelS: on my hardware compiz just about work. that's it. for me it is overkill for just some desktop 3d flipping (i know compiz does alot more than that)
[02:31] <klaxian> how do i set my photo for the user chooser in the gdm menu?
[02:31] <skippy81> SurfnKid:  lets just check something,what is your card again?
[02:31] <SurfnKid> 128MB ATI M10
[02:31] <Jowi> NigelS: but compiz *is* damn impressive
[02:31] <skippy81> is it an X series?
[02:31] <Sub> klaxian, System-Admin-Login Window
[02:31] <SurfnKid> 9600 ATI
[02:32] <klaxian> Sub: i was just there...i'll look again
[02:32] <poningru> oh..
[02:32] <poningru> SurfnKid: whats your system memory?
[02:32] <SurfnKid> 1024
[02:32] <NigelS> Jowi: yeah, Gnome looks pretty as it is, but compiz makes it all look really slick - the transparency is actually useful as is the expose clone
[02:32] <poningru> SurfnKid: I thought 128mb was your system memory
[02:32] <poningru> wtf
[02:32] <mkoby> I have a rackmount KVM switch (made by Compaq) and two rackmount Ethernet switches (made by 3Com), they all have female RS-232 ports on them, and I'm wondering if I need to buy a null-modem or regular cable to connect them to my computer.  They all have female 9-pin connectors on them.
[02:32] <poningru> dude then everything will run just fine for you
[02:33] <klaxian> Sub: i'm there but how do i set my user photo?
[02:33] <SurfnKid> Centrino 1.4Ghz 1024MB RAM 128MB VIDEO MEMORY ATI M10
[02:33] <SurfnKid> thats why i wanna get this thing supd up
[02:33] <SurfnKid> :D
[02:33] <skippy81> ah ok, well SurfnKid, there is a hardware accelerating ATI driver, but i dont think it will work with your card.  It is called fglrx but it is for only 9200 and lower or x series i think
[02:33] <spikeb_> no
[02:33] <spikeb_> fglrx is for a lot of cards
[02:33] <SurfnKid> right i keep hearing about that subject
[02:33] <spikeb_> the 9200 and lower is just the OSS driver limitation
[02:34] <crafteh> I am trying to get my ati radeon mobility working on dapper, but i get these errors when I run glxinfo: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/74594
[02:34] <klaxian> Sub: u know, the photo that appears in the face chooser...
[02:34] <Jowi> NigelS: do you know if it handles autotransparencies? for example, if a window that is first in the zaxis has more opacity?
[02:34] <Sub> klaxian, i dont have the face chooser so i dont know sorry :
[02:35] <SurfnKid> Skippy81 is there an easy way to get the ATI module out in case of a graphics problem?
[02:35] <HotDrive> well... maybe another day. Thank you all. Bye
[02:35] <SurfnKid> Im willing to try it
[02:35] <NigelS> Jowi: last I looked, and I'm not near my dev playmachine atm, you could set discreet stages of opacity for a given window and windows would move to opacity as you alt-tabbed etc but no such clerness yet that I saw
[02:35] <SurfnKid> better yet, maybe i should try compiz/xgl
[02:35] <Jowi> NigelS: ah, alright
[02:35] <klaxian> Sub: no problem...
[02:36] <crafteh> I'm also trying to get fglrx working, but I get these errors: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/745949
[02:36] <klaxian> does anyone know how to set the face photo for a user to show in the face browser in the gdm login manager
[02:36] <maikol> i apt-get install apache2, but some of the files created have .dpkg-new appended.
[02:36] <McScruff> Help, im trying to watch a video, it works fine the 1st time i play it, but when ever i play any other video after they come out all blue tinted
[02:36] <skippy81> SurfnKid: have a look at this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75378&highlight=ati+drivers
[02:36] <tomek_> if badblocks generates numbers i think thats bad? There was so many I had to stop it....
[02:36] <skippy81> i think it may be worth you trying to get the proprietary drivers going, i assume at the moment you are just using the generic xorg driver
[02:38] <SurfnKid> I believe so.. is it in xorg.conf?
[02:39] <skippy81> yeah do the grep thing on xorg.conf again and see what the name is
[02:39] <skippy81> i think it will be "ati" which is the generic one
[02:39] <SurfnKid> i did its ATI
[02:39] <SurfnKid> lemme check again
[02:39] <Zaire> what would cause gaim to crash kubuntu?
[02:40] <skippy81> "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver" i think
[02:40] <Zaire> or rather ubuntu lol
[02:40] <SurfnKid> hehe i copy all those commands to a pad so i wont forget
[02:40] <SurfnKid> yeah thats it
[02:40] <skippy81> Zaire, when you say crash, do you mean the system fully stops responding?
[02:40] <SurfnKid> yea ati
[02:40] <Zaire> yeps
[02:41] <skippy81> hmm, ive never had that happen to me before lol
[02:41] <skippy81> next time it happens Zaire, try pressing control-alt-f1
[02:41] <SurfnKid> guess it might work, the site talks about a 9700 so i would assume 9600 isnt too far from this version
[02:41] <Fire-NR> is there like a list of names to use in the xorg.conf E.G trying to setup my samsung monitor in xorg
[02:41] <skippy81> yeah thats what i noticed SurfnKid
[02:41] <skippy81> i think you should have a go
[02:41] <SurfnKid> ive had my webcam crash ubuntu once, not trying that again
[02:42] <skippy81> really? I have never had a crash in Ubuntu yet
[02:42] <Zaire> not sure quite why but I have an AMD Sempron64 and its 64 bit ubuntu breezy but I haven noticed alot of bugzilla reports on crash's like this involving nvidia vid cards
[02:42] <skippy81> Zaire, try the memtest tool on grub startup
[02:43] <skippy81> linux really shouldnt crash, it is considered the most solid OS on the consumer market - Xwindows may crash but alt-control-F1 should always give you access to the shell
[02:43] <SurfnKid> well after I get back from my jog I'll work on the ati card thing and the xgl thing to get the 3d desktop going and see if its cool
[02:43] <Zaire> will do that just gotta wait for the updates to finish in hopes it might fix the prob but not likely
[02:43] <SurfnKid> thanx skip
[02:43] <skippy81> nps mate
[02:43] <troy_s> Zaire:  Nvidia's driver is closed source and, being such, subjects X windows to instability.
[02:43] <darger> troy_s - that is - pardon my french - BS
[02:43] <Zaire> figures Im hoping to get an X800 soon
[02:44] <SurfnKid> no french here please, just inglich inglich
[02:44] <skippy81> darger, its not really - how can the kernel team etc write stable software around sourcecode they cant look at?
[02:44] <troy_s> darger:  No it is not.  If the source is closed, and it tinkers with a system level thing, you can't be certain what is causing what.
[02:44] <mrproper> In Dapper's gedit, when I hit ctrl+q it selects all.  Can someone reproduce this?
[02:44] <troy_s> darger:  Closed source doesn't work very well.  Period.
[02:45] <runes> is there a certain variable that has to be placed in the adduser.conf so that it automatically creates a subdirectory in the users home directory ?
[02:45] <skippy81> lol i love a nice quitting message :)
[02:46] <carthik> mrproper, no, but is it just gedit or other text editing apps too?
[02:46] <mrproper> carl_, Lets see.
[02:46] <whiter> does anyone know how to disable/change the icon to the left of "Applications" menu?
[02:46] <skippy81> whiter, im working on the same thing at the moment :D
[02:46] <tomek_> i was so dissapointed at ubuntu that i thought of buying my own winXP thing, now I think your so great at supporting people, that I might consider stick to Ubuntu and get to like it....
[02:46] <whiter> hm
[02:46] <alxarch> hi i have a mobo problem with an asus p4p-800
[02:46] <skippy81> im trying to find the icon on the disk so i can change it
[02:46] <maikol> anyone know why my newly installed files have ".dpkg-new" appended to them?
[02:46] <mrproper> Does anyone know how to get opera working on dapper?
[02:47] <whiter> the icon is start-here.svg i think
[02:47] <Maytag> Can I use the Live cd and a new hd to dl and install the full version of Ubuntu?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[02:47] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[02:47] <gnomefreak> !opera
[02:47] <ubotu> download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[02:47] <troy_s> tomek:  Ubuntu is a beginning.  Operating systems should be free as in freedom.  If you want something to be better, everyone needs to make it better.
[02:47] <gnomefreak> mrproper: go to the one for dapper and download it than dpkg -i  to install it
[02:48] <skippy81> i have an idea whiter, we can get someone who hasnt ran update to put up there icon on imageshack
[02:48] <mrproper> gnomefreak, There isn't one for dapper.
[02:48] <gnomefreak> mrproper: there was
[02:48] <gnomefreak> i have it
[02:48] <skippy81> then we can 'downgrade' ours with it :)
[02:48] <mrproper> gnomefreak, No kidding.
[02:48] <mrproper> gnomefreak, Can you give me a hand finding it?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> mrproper: i gave you the link
[02:48] <SurfnKid> tomek_ well when I had someone help me with an issue, it felt better than your typical India-Pakistan Tech  Support, and everyone here is actually a bit dedicated to linux, rather than just working for a check with poor customer service
[02:48] <mrproper> gnomefreak, I didn't see it.  Thanks!
[02:48] <gnomefreak> mrproper: http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/
[02:49] <gnomefreak> mrproper: go download the one that says dapper
[02:49] <gnomefreak> 4th one up from bottom
[02:49] <mrproper> gnomefreak, Oh you're a god among men
[02:49] <McScruff> Help, im trying to watch a video, it works fine the 1st time i play it, but when ever i play any other video after they come out all blue tinted
[02:49] <skippy81> I actually think that linux is generally a better OS than windows - its just people get addicted to the proprietary software bundled with M$ and find it hard to migrate
[02:49] <NF4> Hello do I need anti virus with ubuntu
[02:50] <troy_s> skippy81:  Well said.  And they also don't realize their rights are being pinched as they support Microsoft or Apple.
[02:50] <spikeb> heh and i think the OSS software that's part of linux distros is their strength
[02:50] <gnomefreak> NF4: not for normal use no
[02:50] <spikeb> NF4: no
[02:50] <tomek_> problems so far, I cant listen to my favorite radio station casue rythmbox just stops playing it after a couple of mins and closes.... I have to start all over again... It drives me nuts... I wonder why.... ok, lets get this over with again... rythbox -start my radio station - wait until it happens again...
[02:50] <carthik> !offtopic
[02:50] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:50] <troy_s> NF4:  Computer security should always be at the forefroont of your thinking though.
[02:50] <NF4> I have firestarter
[02:50] <troy_s> NF4:  No machine is safe.  Learn how your computer works and pay close attention to it.
[02:50] <NF4> installed
[02:50] <gui> I'm trying to install totem-xine but it wants to remove the ubuntu-desktop package!
[02:50] <skippy81> yeah troy_s, its funny how windows users never mention the time M$ upgraded Windows media player so it would DRM lock your WMAs to your hardware as you burnt them
[02:50] <mrproper> gnomefreak, Oh you're awesome.  Thank you very much.  They don't list the dapper install on their download page for beta, that's all.
[02:50] <gnomefreak> gui: thats fine
[02:50] <alxarch> can anyone help me? i can't get my asus p4p-800 to use all the ide channels (p-ata and s-ata)
[02:51] <troy_s> skippy:  Amen.  Or the DRM Apple slotted in behind everyone's back.
[02:51] <gui> gnomefreak: omg really??
[02:51] <gnomefreak> mrproper: thats why i made that factoid in ubotu ;)
[02:51] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[02:51] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntu-desktop was a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading
[02:51] <gnomefreak> gui: ^^^
[02:51] <runes> alxarch did you load the asus drivers fro the board?
[02:51] <skippy81> yeah DRM will be the real battleground in which people will eventually see the light
[02:51] <planetcall> goodmorning all
[02:51] <runes> load=install
[02:51] <NF4> well I read in a book once that if you unplug your pc and lock in a safe and gaurd it with a m-16 that it will be hacker proof untill the enamy defets you
[02:51] <troy_s> NF4:  Firestarter is only a frontend for the already existing iptables.
[02:51] <carthik> troy_s, skippy81 could you please move that conv to #ubuntu-offtopic so others seeking help can get some :)
[02:51] <SurfnKid> the only reason im on ubuntu now is cuz i have to boxes, otherwise i couldnt i run a business and i cant twiddle from OS to OS but this has been faultless since ive gotten it going
[02:51] <Zaire> kde is my fav enviro
[02:51] <mrproper> gnomefreak, Thanks.  Have a nice night (and a Happy Memorial Day if you're in the US)
[02:51] <gui> gnomefreak: I'm not joking :P
[02:51] <alxarch> it can't boot if i enable them all because of some short of irq conflict
[02:52] <gnomefreak> gui: either am i its ok to delete
[02:52] <skippy81> carthik:  dont worry we finished now :)
[02:52] <NF4> well it made my blocks green in grc scan wich I like
[02:52] <planetcall> Guys name the Torrent clients you are using (exclude java based clients as Azureus)
[02:52] <disinterested_pe> im useing streamtuner for radio
[02:52] <runes> alxarch dou you ahve add on cards as well?
[02:52] <alxarch> nop
[02:52] <caskey> Why isn't tomcat4 in 5.10 anymore?  Or more properly, how can I go about getting the tomcat4 package?
[02:52] <PerceptualChaos> hey I changed the permissions on my home directory cause I didn't think about what that might do, now its screwed something up! What is the default setting? I changed it to chmod -R a+rwx and I'm thinking that I should be able to take it back to the default with  chmod -R a-x. Is that right?
[02:52] <runes> so embedded sound audio nic?
[02:52] <troy_s> NF4:  Yes, it probably set all incoming packets to ignore.
[02:52] <NF4> I just use bit torrent
[02:52] <Zaire> ktorrent works good I think its better then azureus
[02:52] <gui> gnomefreak: ok then, thx
[02:52] <carthik> alxarch, you can check if it is a bug at launchpad.net - besides that, there is little I can do to help
[02:52] <alxarch> it's a feature of the mobo called "enchanched mod"
[02:52] <NF4> yeah
[02:52] <troy_s> Zaire:  Bittornado is good too.
[02:52] <whiter> i think i fixed it
[02:52] <alxarch> *mod=mode
[02:52] <caskey> PerceptualChaos, chmod  0770 /home/foo
[02:53] <whiter> i need to restart gnome's panels how do i do that?
[02:53] <Zaire> yea but does it have listed torrent search engines
[02:53] <skippy81> planetcall, you could try the 'offical bittorent' client : http://www.bittorrent.com/download.myt
[02:53] <runes> well I have the asus an vm-csm
[02:53] <gnomefreak> whiter: killall gnome-panel
[02:53] <Zaire> and a builtin search for them
[02:53] <runes> I used ubuntu 6 install cd
[02:53] <NF4> no
[02:53] <runes> booted with the embedde enabled
[02:53] <runes> pnp enabled
[02:53] <PerceptualChaos> caskey, thanks - what does 0770 mean?
[02:53] <runes> recongnized the drives
[02:53] <runes> booted to desktop
[02:53] <planetcall> skippy81, thanks buddy but I dont like its no interface idea. I need a client with good configurable options and slightly better interface to manage IP and priority
[02:53] <caskey> PerceptualChaos, Nuclear fix:  find /home/foo -type d -exec chmod 0770 {} \; ; find /home/foo -type f -exec chmod 0660 {} \; ;
[02:53] <runes> tehn dl the asus drivers
[02:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell runes about enter
[02:54] <skippy81> i have to say, BitComet is a very good clent, it is a shame its not on linux
[02:54] <caskey> PerceptualChaos, it means you and your personal group have read/write/traverse perms to your home dir but Others do not
[02:54] <skippy81> yeah planetcall, i must admit i am a bit unsatisfied with the torrent situation at the moment
[02:54] <planetcall> skippy81, I totally agree ! though BC! is not supported by many private trackers these days
[02:54] <itrebal> how can i keep GDM from starting up when i login?
[02:54] <PerceptualChaos> caskey, will I need to use the recursive flag?
[02:54] <gui> gnomefreak: ok so this new xine will run inside totem? I've installed "totem-xine" and "xine-ui"
[02:54] <maikol> when one apt-get's something with the command line, does the console close when its done or should it stay open. i ask because mine closed
[02:54] <caskey> PerceptualChaos, no
[02:55] <gnomefreak> itrebal: what would you like to start up?
[02:55] <NF4> have you looked at ctorrent
[02:55] <planetcall> itrebal, dpkg-reconfigure kdm   incase you want to start kdm at beginning
[02:55] <phidaux> Does anyone know if there a version of automatix for amd? (very new... please be kind)
[02:55] <NF4> http://ctorrent.sourceforge.net/?action=featreq
[02:55] <nalioth> !automatix
[02:55] <ubotu> I guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[02:55] <troy_s> itrebal:  or xdm
[02:55] <gnomefreak> gui: totem-xine uses the xine engine not the gstreamer engine
[02:55] <caskey> PerceptualChaos, the second command(s) will completely fix your home dir, but it will strip the execute bit off of any programs you have placed in your home dir
[02:55] <spikeb> !tell phibxr about easyubuntu
[02:55] <itrebal> gnomefreak: i dont want anything to startup, i just want  a regular console login
[02:55] <gui> gnomefreak: yes, but does it run in the same software (in this case, totem)?
[02:55] <Red-Sox> Hi, whenever I try to do the ubuntu install on my machine, it says 'Loading Partitioner' and then goes to a blank, blue screen and nothing happens
[02:56] <tomek_> if i want to switch to - say - kdm, would "apt-get install kdm" do?
[02:56] <Maytag> Can I use the Live cd and a new hd to dl and install the full version of Ubuntu?
[02:56] <gnomefreak> gui: it is totem just a differnet engine (part you never see)
[02:56] <planetcall> tomek_, yes
[02:56] <gui> gnomefreak: oh ok, thx again
[02:56] <skippy81> Red-Sox:  is there any way you can get hold of a live CD?
[02:56] <gnomefreak> Maytag: only the 6.06 live cd
[02:56] <PerceptualChaos> caskey, are you saying I could run either the first or the second group? or I need to run both?
[02:56] <Zaire> "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[02:56] <Red-Sox> skippy81> Ya I have a few
[02:56] <NF4>  planetcall check out  torrentflux too
[02:56] <NF4> that looks full fetured
[02:56] <gnomefreak> bbl
[02:56] <planetcall> NF4 hmm...checking out
[02:56] <skippy81> it will be a lot easier that way, Red-Sox, Dapper is much more reliably installed from the live desktop cd
[02:56] <NF4> http://www.torrentflux.com/
[02:57] <Red-Sox> skippy81> I'm usin' breezy...
[02:57] <caskey> PerceptualChaos, the second includes the first, effectively.  Depends upon how badly you fucked the permissions.
[02:57] <Red-Sox> skippy81> I'll download dapper
[02:57] <Maytag> Thanks gnomefreak
[02:57] <spikeb> !language
[02:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[02:57] <caskey> Both wouldn't hurt.  chmod commands are idempotent
[02:57] <Red-Sox> How long will the dapper install disk take to dl on T1?
[02:57] <skippy81> Red-Sox:  i would really recommend you get dapper RC1 now, it is really reliable
[02:57] <caskey> fuck you ubotu
[02:57] <Kyral> uhh
[02:57] <itrebal> i'd like to keep GDM from starting up, and instead i just want to be brought to a standard startup-screen, with the TTY1 TTY2 etc - a text-base console
[02:57] <skippy81> Red-Sox 3.5 hours max
[02:57] <planetcall> ohhh....torrentflux requires a webserver :(
[02:57] <Red-Sox> skippy81> k cool, does it fit on a CD?
[02:57] <Kyral> more like 3.5 seconds max :P
[02:57] <spikeb> !ops
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[02:57] <skippy81> should come down at at least 60k
[02:57] <PerceptualChaos> caskey, ok cool thanks so I'll try the first one and see if that fixes it
[02:58] <Kyral> FINISH HIM!!
[02:58] <gnomefreak> spikeb: ???
[02:58] <skippy81> yes Red-Sox, it will be a single iso file, i will get you the link, hang on :)
[02:58] <alxarch> ok second question here goes: i followed the howto for installing ubuntu from a pendrive but syslinux doesn't set my pendrive to be bootable. any other way to set it to be bootable?
[02:58] <Red-Sox> Kyral> hehe
[02:58] <spikeb> gnomefreak: <caskey> fuck you ubotu
[02:58] <nalioth> spikeb: what's up?
[02:58] <Red-Sox> skippy81> -K-
[02:58] <Kyral> Double language violation
[02:58] <Red-Sox> spikeb> Now you are in trouble :P
[02:58] <gnomefreak> caskey: dont use fowl language please
[02:58] <spikeb> ah crap
[02:58] <caskey> gnomefreak, yeah yeah yeah
[02:58] <Kyral> gnomefreak: he was explaining why he summoned the ops
[02:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell caskey about rules
[02:59] <whiter> ok i think i figured out how to change the icon
[02:59] <whiter> but i also broke it
[02:59] <whiter> :P
[02:59] <Masqy> can somone write the ip address of google.com ?
[02:59] <maikol> Zaire, when you do the apt-get to get kde, does it get rid of the gnome or does one have both
[02:59] <Red-Sox> nalioth> caskey doesn't like ubotu :D
[02:59] <Masqy> ( I think the my DNS is down)
[02:59] <SurfnKid> i  thought f**k couldnt be used
[02:59] <nalioth> Red-Sox: we must learn to love our neighbors
[02:59] <planetcall> Masqy, you can use an Extension of Firefox which displays IP of current website at status bar
[02:59] <SurfnKid> but when i used crap... everyone crapped all over me about it
[02:59] <Red-Sox> nalioth> hehe
[03:00] <PerceptualChaos> it seemed to funk something up pretty badly cause it just all of a sudden my xwindows just crashes into the following: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=156003067&size=o
[03:00] <NF4> what dose hostname mean under linux
[03:00] <NF4> is it the name of  my pc
[03:00] <the> hey how do you compile and install a dos emu?
[03:00] <Masqy> planetcall... I guess I'll try when the DNS is back, if that is my problem :)
[03:00] <skippy81> Red-Sox:  http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/6.06/
[03:00] <Red-Sox> skippy81> Is it capped?
[03:00] <Healot> NF4: it's the name of your friend's PC :)
[03:00] <skippy81> Red-Sox not too sure, where do you live?
[03:00] <Red-Sox> VA
[03:00] <NF4> oh i see
[03:00] <skippy81> i think it is capped at 60k though
[03:01] <the> ?
[03:01] <Red-Sox> skippy81> I want the 'Desktop CD' right?
[03:01] <SurfnKid> masqy google's DNS are dynamic and are different IP's depending on your location so I wouldnt have a clue
[03:01] <Red-Sox> Oh...20 minutes, this isn't bad
[03:01] <Red-Sox> skippy81> Tell me if I have these dual-boot notes right:
[03:01] <hangfire> the- if you know the name of a dos emu, look in the repository list
[03:01] <nalioth> Red-Sox: you do
[03:01] <NF4> do you guys make sure your mprime stable  befor running your computers
[03:02] <planetcall> did anyone name KTorrent ?
[03:02] <planetcall> looks good to me
[03:02] <the> How do you compile and install a dos emu in Linux!!!!!!!!!!
[03:02] <Masqy> SurfnKid: than maybe some other less known site.. just need an IP of a site..
[03:02] <hangfire> the- if you know the name of a dos emu, look in the repository list
[03:02] <Red-Sox> skippy81> -SWAP 512MB and it's a SWAP what's it called, -PRIMARY EXT3 / Bootable flag on?
[03:02] <the> ohh
[03:02] <the> k
[03:02] <Managu-Away> !tell the about patience
[03:02] <SurfnKid> um ok
[03:02] <Red-Sox> nalioth> How do you know?
[03:02] <Red-Sox> nalioth> Oh
[03:02] <Red-Sox> nalioth> I see what you mean :P
[03:02] <the> what is a repository list???
[03:03] <Maytag> Can I use the live cd of 5.01 to dl and burn a full install cd for a clean hd?
[03:03] <Red-Sox> Maytag> Not really
[03:03] <skippy81> Red-Sox, that setup is fine and yes you want the desktop iso, pick the correct one for your processor
[03:03] <Maytag> Shit, really?
[03:03] <planetcall> the, it is the godown of softwares for your OS
[03:03] <spikeb> Maytag: if you have more than one cd drive
[03:03] <SurfnKid> http://64.233.179.104 try it
[03:03] <Red-Sox> skippy81> 64 bit baby
[03:03] <hangfire> go to system>adminstration>synaptic package manager
[03:03] <skippy81> same here :)
[03:03] <Maytag> Okay, thanks.
[03:03] <Red-Sox> skippy81> Will it use both processors?  (Dual Core)
[03:04] <the> WHAT IS A GODOWN???
[03:04] <skippy81> bear in mind though Red-Sox, that 64bit linux is harder to set stuff up with
[03:04] <nalioth> the: dosemu is available in the repos, no need to compile it
[03:04] <Red-Sox> skippy81> If you mean no flash and stuff, I'll live
[03:04] <the> k
[03:04] <skippy81> i think to use dual cores you might need a custum kernel, but im not sure
[03:04] <whiter> skippy i figured out how to change the icon
[03:04] <Masqy> thanks, now I know that my DNS is down... actually my ISPs DNS keeps dying on almost a regualr basis lately..
[03:04] <Red-Sox> skippy81> Speed over ease of use for me
[03:04] <the> so should i use sypnaptic??
[03:04] <whiter> start-here.svg = the icon
[03:04] <hangfire> yes
[03:04] <SurfnKid> no probs masqy
[03:04] <the> k
[03:04] <Healot> the: no use adept :)
[03:04] <planetcall> skippy81, NF4  did you see KTorrent ?
[03:04] <Red-Sox> igt bbiab
[03:04] <skippy81> i think you need to enable smp in the kernel, but there will be pleanty of guides
[03:04] <SurfnKid> get your own DNS so u can bypass it
[03:05] <NF4> no i havent seen that
[03:05] <NF4> is it for kde? I asumed tha all programs that start with k are for kde
[03:05] <seek> eh.  I bought a Bytecc USB HD enclosure.  It's horrible.  I even flashed the firmware and it still only recognizes 128GB
[03:05] <skippy81> planetcall: nope im currently using azureus, i havnt tried ktorrent yet but i know its very popular
[03:05] <nalioth> skippy81: no need for that at all
[03:05] <seek> This is in Windows and Linux
[03:05] <planetcall> Yeah but whats the problem ? You can use it the same way on Gnome
[03:06] <planetcall> KTorrent seems promising I am going for it now on my Gnome
[03:06] <skippy81> planetcall im going to try ktorrent out now, ill let you know if it works :)
[03:06] <planetcall> :)
[03:06] <NF4> oh you can
[03:06] <NF4> I didnt know that k programs ran under gnome
[03:07] <planetcall> ZoomCities, Stop spamming about your crappy hosting services !
[03:07] <SurfnKid> I put shortcuts on my different desktops, i created 8. from F9 to F12 and then SHFT+F9 to F12 they rock
[03:07] <planetcall> mods ! ban him please
[03:07] <skippy81> whiter:  thanks mate, im looking into it now
[03:07] <gui> totem is using the xine plugin, but xine itself has a better DVD playback! how's that possible?
[03:07] <SurfnKid> ZoomCities no thanks, maybe some other time, perhaps my neighbor, want his number?
[03:08] <Healot> xine rocks, gui?
[03:08] <NF4> qtorrent is in synaptic
[03:08] <Beforewisdom> Is there a flash 8 for linux?  Everytime I go to macromedia it keeps grying to gie me flash 7
[03:08] <skippy81> i cant see ZoomCities posts for some reason
[03:08] <whiter> skippy i think the icon has to be svg
[03:08] <Healot> Beforewisdom: NO, an absolute NO for now...
[03:08] <whiter> so youre going to need to install gimp-svg, then export your icon file to an svg then you can use it
[03:08] <Beforewisdom> Thanks healot
[03:09] <twobitsprite> why can't I seem to open mp3s in rhythmbox? It says file is not an audio stream
[03:09] <skippy81> ok cool, ill download it now
[03:09] <Beforewisdom> So adobe is going to make a 9 for linux but forget about 8 altogether?
[03:09] <skippy81> im tempted to see if i can somehow extract the old svg icon from my dapper cd :D
[03:09] <tomek_> is synaptic specific for ubuntu or is it present in other linux flavors? its a wonderful tool, and you dont have to restart!
[03:09] <gui> Healot: seems to be very good :P xine vs Mplayer, who wins?
[03:09] <skippy81> Beforewisdom:  yes that is what i heard, straight to version 9
[03:09] <rossalee> hello everyone
[03:10] <skippy81> g'day
[03:10] <Beforewisdom> There is a lot of cool stuff that requires flash 8.....is there a substitute?
[03:10] <twobitsprite> do I need to install codecs or something?
[03:10] <Healot> gui: can't say on behalf of that...
[03:10] <maikol> does one have to restart after installing a new package?
[03:10] <skippy81> Beforewisdom:  yes, you could install a windows browser in wine i believe
[03:10] <DanielX> Good evening, everyone
[03:10] <SurfnKid> !mp3
[03:10] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:10] <Red-Sox> i'm listening to Roper with Amplify since 02:13
[03:10] <Beforewisdom> mailkol......no, that is a windows thing
[03:10] <skippy81> but IMO with flash your not missing much  :D
[03:10] <Beforewisdom> thanks skipp81
[03:10] <SurfnKid> twobitsprite read that article about RestrictedFormats i think that might help
[03:11] <Beforewisdom> well ABC has streaming television that requires flash 8
[03:11] <gui> xine vs Mplayer, who wins?
[03:11] <Beforewisdom> and the videos on google video look like crap in flash 7
[03:11] <skippy81> Mplayer wins over xine
[03:11] <maikol> Beforewisdom, would you know, then, why all the new files i just installed have a ".dpkg-new" on the end of their file names
[03:11] <rossalee> i think mplayer is better
[03:11] <skippy81> but VLC player is really good, worth trying it
[03:11] <Healot> both GTK+ player sucks
[03:12] <skippy81> unfortunately i dont seem to be able to make VLC stick to just a single instance
[03:12] <Healot> VLC has excellent choice of toolkit and en/decoders
[03:12] <skippy81> but other than that VLC is the best i think
[03:12] <satan> hello all, does anyone know of a dvd-shrink like program for linux? i dont wanna convert to divx, just backup to a 4.7 dvdr
[03:12] <DanielX> I'm trying to boot off Dapper Drake on a grey G3.. holding the c key down, and damn thing keeps going right by
[03:12] <skippy81> its by far the best windows media player
[03:12] <planetcall> I use VLC on Windows as well ! It rocks everywhere
[03:12] <skippy81> yeah the VLC team have done an amazing job
[03:12] <skippy81> its such a versitile piece of software
[03:13] <kholerabbi> How do I tell what gnome version I have??
[03:13] <skippy81> system > about gnome
[03:13] <tomek_> y'all using Xchat here?
[03:13] <{V0rtexia}> I've downloaded the full kernel source and unzipped it to /usr/src/linux-2.6.16.18, but when I make menuconfig I get lots of stuff like /boot/config-2.6.12-10-386:16:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
[03:13] <skippy81> tomek_:  yes i am using xchat
[03:14] <DanielX> Anyone familiar with the Mac distribution?
[03:14] <skippy81> i actaully only got into IRC since i started using linux a lot
[03:14] <Healot> DanielX: problem with Ya!boot?
[03:14] <kholerabbi> thanks
[03:14] <DanielX> Healot : not yabooting at all ;)
[03:14] <DanielX> it goes right into os 9.2
[03:14] <Healot> DanielX: what's your CPU?
[03:15] <Healot> is it a G4 at least?
[03:15] <DanielX> it's a grey g3
[03:15] <soares> ola
[03:15] <DanielX> oh, darn. i see it has 96 megs of ram. not enough, is it? i think i read 192 required?
[03:15] <Healot> oh... i see DanielX, G4++ only i guess
[03:16] <Beforewisdom> Im excited about the new ubuntu next week.  Any big user visible "wow!" features coming out in it?
[03:16] <crimsun> Beforewisdom: s/next week/thursday/
[03:16] <Healot> RAM... might be... but it should boot in text mode, even with 64MB
[03:16] <DanielX> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ says g3 included
[03:16] <Beforewisdom> cool
[03:17] <Beforewisdom> thanks
[03:17] <DanielX> I hold the " c " key, which should make the mac boot off the cd
[03:17] <tomek_> how many of you are from Europe? Anybody?
[03:17] <Healot> DanielX: I really recommend g4 or above, since I have a dual g4, i don't have experience on old Mac CPUs
[03:17] <macsim> hi, any opensource UML modeling software for ubuntu ?
[03:17] <planetcall> Not all Windows software have better alternatives on linux. I really miss AIRoboform. Anyone using better password manager on ubuntu ? probaby with firefox.
[03:18] <Beforewisdom> My grand parents were from Europe, does that count?
[03:18] <tomek_> before: nope :(
[03:18] <DanielX> Healot : ok.. if a g4 comes my way, i'll give it a try. Thanks
[03:18] <DarkTower> planetcall, thats a subjective opinions, i use revelation, and its much better than anything ive used in windows
[03:18] <skippy81> tomek_:  i am from near London, if that counts as Europe :)
[03:18] <Healot> DanielX: in the mean time, try to add more RAM...
[03:19] <disinterested_pe> is anyone else having more fun with ubuntu than windows lol
[03:19] <tomek_> skippy: that surely counts!
[03:19] <skippy81> :)
[03:19] <planetcall> macsim,  there is something like umbrello or some similar name. Try synaptic search
[03:19] <NF4> I just wish I could get superpi to work properly
[03:19] <planetcall> macsim  yes it is umbrello
[03:20] <macsim> planetcall: yes but it's kde application :/
[03:20] <DanielX> I will.
[03:20] <NigelS> tomek_: europe too
[03:20] <tomek_> skippy:you gonna miss work tomorrow :)
[03:20] <DanielX> Good night, everyone
[03:20] <skippy81> hehe im a student, i dont work :D
[03:20] <planetcall> it doesnt matter. It lists in Gnome Applications.
[03:20] <tomek_> skippy: good for you, worse for me :))
[03:20] <planetcall> See Applications > Add Application > Programming
[03:21] <NF4> I havent used windows in two years
[03:21] <NF4> and that was just to help my mom
[03:21] <planetcall> I have used it on Gnome.   It doesnt matter if software is labeled KDE, it runs the same on Gnome.
[03:21] <kapputu> where do I change the DNS settings in GNOME?
[03:21] <planetcall> sane a few rare of them
[03:21] <tomek_> NF-4: do you miss it?
[03:21] <HillTop> disinterested_pe, I replaced Win98 with Ubuntu this month. It is a P450 with 256MB Ram, 18GB HD and runs quite nicely with Ubuntu 5.10. I'm checking Xubuntu livecd on it right now. I expect when 6.06 arrives, Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu will all make a nice home there.
[03:22] <NF4> I miss BSOD's
[03:22] <NF4> those were always fun
[03:22] <Healot> NF4: My Windows XP has no BSOD or whatever since it runs 2 years ago
[03:22] <NF4> and trying to track down the right DLL
[03:22] <DarkTower> NF4: lol. I've put them behind me and moved on
[03:22] <macsim> planetcall: I can do it with dia ;) ok thanks for all
[03:23] <DarkTower> NF4: Please dont mention Dlls, i just popped a vessel
[03:23] <HillTop> disinterested_pe, I expect with KDE, GNOME and XFce all installed one can boot into any of the three.
[03:23] <NF4> I used to enjoy  using avg becouse they updated ther .dat files like twice a day
[03:23] <kapputu> where do I change the DNS settings?
[03:23] <tomek_> NF4: well, I miss so much... I miss mi first brand new 286 when I was 14... still here, covered with dust...
[03:23] <maikol> how do i get back into gnome from an alt-control-f1 shell
[03:23] <gavin> hey guys... i am trying to get glibc installed but its not in synaptic.
[03:23] <macsim> kapputu: /etc/resolv.conf
[03:23] <DarkTower> kapputu: go to System->Admin->Network Settings
[03:24] <NigelS> maikol: ctrl-alt-f7
[03:24] <maikol> thanks
[03:24] <Managu-Away> gavin: why do you think you need glibc?
[03:24] <GaiaX11> I am trying to connect to a ubuntu laptop throught a WindowsXP (putty) using ssh, but i get this message: "no route to host". What's this? any help?
[03:25] <gavin> i'm trying to compile a project a friend is having me take over... he thinks i'm lacking glibc since i got an error on /sys/include/time or something
[03:25] <DarkTower> GaiaX11: Make sure networking is set up correctly, same subnet, name resolution etc
[03:25] <NigelS> GaiaX11: it means there's a problem with your network basically
[03:25] <Managu> gavin: (iirc) glibc = libc6
[03:25] <Beforewisdom> anyone what are the big features in gnome 3?
[03:25] <skippy81> GaiaX11, is there a router between you and the linux host
[03:26] <Managu> gavin: or rather, glibc2 = libc6
[03:26] <DarkTower> skippy81: not necessarily
[03:26] <gavin> managu: thanks, i hoped as much. i have libc6 installed but couldn't find glibc anywhere. thought i was going insane
[03:26] <GaiaX11> skippy81, No. There isn't
[03:26] <Managu> gavin: there aren't many linux distributions these days which don't use glibc
[03:26] <skippy81> GaiaX11:  ping the linux host, use nmap if you can
[03:27] <Masqy> how can  I add a dns server to /etc/ppp/resolv.conf without disconnecting ?
[03:27] <DarkTower> GaiaX11: its a networking problem, insure same subnet and name resolution
[03:27] <Masqy> and can someone send o'er his dns server ?
[03:29] <PerceptualChaos> caskey, I tried the first command and it didn't fix the problem. Trying the second one now: "find /home/foo -type d -exec chmod 0770 {} \; ; find /home/foo -type f -exec chmod 0660 {} \; ;" but its giving me shit saying exec has no arguments
[03:29] <GaiaX11> Let me explain the problem better. I am at home and my friend is in another house not far from here. He is running a WindowsXP and have 2 ubuntu laptops in his house and i want to access the laptops from my home throught my ubuntu machine.
[03:29] <gavin> gaia do you have ports open at your friend's router?
[03:29] <PerceptualChaos> do I need quotes in there somewhere?
[03:29] <skippy81> GaiaX11:  surely those laptops are behind a router then
[03:29] <DarkTower> GaiaX11: OMG lol, you said there was no router between you
[03:29] <PerceptualChaos> sorry, my bash skills are not wonderful
[03:30] <DarkTower> GaiaX11: DO you actually know what a router is
[03:30] <cocox> anyone knows the best bandwidth manager for linux ???? i wanna try some...
[03:30] <Masqy> brb....
[03:30] <gui> I don't understand why mplayer requires XMMS.. can anyone explain me that??
[03:30] <skippy81> GaiaX11:  you will have to set up the router to port forward port 23 to a local IP
[03:30] <Healot> gui: it doesn't
[03:31] <kapput1> Are there any settings I can change to minimize the visual effects and improve performance?
[03:31] <Healot> cocox: tried mtr?
[03:31] <gui> Healot: well, but XMMS was installed and now I can't remove it, unless I remove mplayer as well
[03:31] <tomek_> K, heres the questuion: what kind of (speed mattrrs) internet connection you consider "decent"?
[03:31] <kholerabbi> Can I update gnome with breezy 5.1?
[03:31] <skippy81> GaiaX11:  you will probably have to set up ssh on one of the laptops to use another port than 23, that way you can forward 23 to one laptop and port x to another
[03:31] <GaiaX11> I went to his house and I configured the machines and i can connect to the laptops through his windows. But, from my house I can't. So ...
[03:32] <skippy81> yeah its because he has only ONE ip address : the router
[03:32] <planetcall> DarkTower, Hey buddy thanks for revelation. I found an older version in repository not having any tray applet :(  Do you enter Site address, username and passwords manually ?
[03:32] <PerceptualChaos> oh damn, caskey is not here anymore, can somone else answer my question?
[03:32] <skippy81> so you will have to set up his router to forward that traffic to the correct machines
[03:32] <Healot> gui: could you output the uninstall message?
[03:32] <tomek_> as for me, Id say 1Mb.
[03:33] <[1] Troy> Hi all.  New user.
[03:33] <PerceptualChaos> I changed my permissions on my home directory and caskey suggested using: find /home/foo -type d -exec chmod 0770 {} \; ; find /home/foo -type f -exec chmod 0660 {} \; ;
[03:33] <skippy81> PerceptualChaos:  what were you trying to do
[03:33] <gui> Healot, here it is;        mplayer-386 depends on xmms (>= 1.2.10+cvs20050209);
[03:33] <gavin> another question guys: i'm currently using vnc to use my ubuntu install from my windows desktop. is there a faster way to do this? the screen lags quite a bit
[03:34] <PerceptualChaos> it gives me an error saying missing argument to exec
[03:34] <skippy81> are you basically trying to do a recusive chmod? PerceptualChaos
[03:34] <[1] Troy> I was about to reinstall breezy tonight, but with dapper coming out in couple of days, should I wait?  Or install Dapper RC and update?
[03:34] <ion3lunix> I'd install the Dapper RC and update.
[03:34] <gui> [1] Troy; I would wait until thursday :)
[03:35] <skippy81> [1] Troy:  install dapper now :)
[03:35] <PerceptualChaos> skippy81, yes - I previously did a recursive a+rwx chmod on my home folder and I'm trying to take it back to the default
[03:35] <[1] Troy> kk thx.
[03:35] <gui> Healot,so any ideas?
[03:36] <[1] Troy> didn't know if there is much differnce between RC install and update, or wait for clean install
[03:36] <DarkTower> planetcall: Your welcome. At the moment thats what i do becuase i use it for more than just web passwords. You may be able to do it automatically, or another tool will, but i;m not fmaily with them sorry.
[03:36] <PerceptualChaos> right now I just want to try out the command suggested but I'm not sure if I need some double quotes in there somewhere cause bash isn't parsing it
[03:36] <sg47_> how much space does Xubuntu require if I already have Gubuntu?
[03:37] <ion3lunix> About a terabyte (I'm guessing)?
[03:37] <xnull> hey I`m trying to install the new ubuntu and after he almost starts. the monitor remains black
[03:37] <PerceptualChaos> I don't really understand the command
[03:37] <skippy81> PerceptualChaos:  here is an example of a simple recursive chmod which affects only directories: sudo chmod 755 `find /path -type d`
[03:37] <skippy81> maybe the use of quotes will help you
[03:37] <sg47_> ion3lunix, cut the crap
[03:38] <capgadget> xubuntu probably doesn't take that much.  You are just adding the xfce packages.  They aren't large.
[03:38] <xnull> hey I`m trying to install the new ubuntu and after he almost starts. the monitor remains black : any ideea?
[03:38] <ion3lunix> To reset permissions on your home directory, try these two commands:   sudo find /home/username -type d -exec chmod 0755 {} \;   and    sudo find /home/username -type f -exec chmod 0644 {} \;
[03:38] <jm334> The package xxx needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[03:38] <jm334> i am getting this error when i am trying apt-get -f install
[03:39] <skippy81> PerceptualChaos:  read this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178706&highlight=recursive+chmod
[03:39] <jm334> how can i remove that package?
[03:39] <tomek_> how can i log on as root?
[03:39] <ion3lunix> jm334: sudo dpkg --purge packagename
[03:39] <skippy81> scroll down, you will see different ways of doing it
[03:39] <Healot> sudo su tomek_
[03:39] <jm334> ion3lunix, doesnt work
[03:39] <jm334> same error
[03:39] <Masquarade> ?
[03:40] <ion3lunix> jm334: can you pastebin the relevant errors?
[03:40] <jm334> where does apt save its database?
[03:40] <jm334> ion3lunix, hold on
[03:40] <xnull> WHY i can`t install the new dapper.i got my monitor black when he almost starts X
[03:40] <seek> How do you disable the DVD/CD Creator in GNOME?  I need to use k3b and it keeps messing k3b up
[03:40] <ion3lunix> xnull: what graphics card do you have?
[03:41] <skippy81> xnull, use recovery mode and fiddle with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:41] <sg47_> gcc isn't installed by default?
[03:41] <defendguin_> why all of a sudden did vmware-player get accepted?
[03:41] <ion3lunix> sg47_: it's not, aptitude install build-essential to get compilers
[03:41] <planetcall> sg47_, yes
[03:41] <tomek_> i know "su", but i cant log on as root  from like the welcome screen,
[03:42] <skippy81> sg47_:  if your using breezy you will need to use gcc 3.4 to compile kernel modules
[03:42] <admin__> sup
[03:42] <skippy81> tomek_:  no, but you can enable it i believe
[03:42] <NigelS> tomek_: there is no root user by default, ubuntu uses sudo
[03:42] <ion3lunix> tomek_: you're not meant to log in as root with a graphical interface, since it's easier to mess up your system. If you'd still like to, however, sudo passwd root to set root's password, then do it.
[03:42] <jm334> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14847
[03:42] <sg47_> the kernel upgrade didn't work
[03:42] <jm334> ion3lunix,
[03:42] <KhZilla> sudo su
[03:42] <jm334> ion3lunix, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14847
[03:42] <xnull> ion3lunix: radeon 9200
[03:42] <xnull> skippy81: how?
[03:43] <rever> Hi I keep getting this error when trying to compile the latest mythtv.... You must have the Lame MP3 encoding library installed to compile Myth.
[03:43] <andrejkw> rever: liblame?
[03:43] <skippy81> xnull:  on the menu bar do "system" > "admin" > "login window" and tick the log in as administrator box
[03:43] <maikol> what do i need to edit to have someting run at startup
[03:43] <xnull> skyppy81: I`m trying to install dapper for the first time..
[03:43] <andrejkw> rever: liblame-dev
[03:43] <ion3lunix> jm334: did you install xandros packages earlier from somewhere? how'd you get that package on your system?
[03:43] <intelikey> tomek_ gdm controls who can login at the "gdm' welcome screen"  /etc/gdm/*  maybe,,, i don't recall.
[03:43] <skippy81> oh i see, ok how har have you got?
[03:44] <skippy81> you cant get into x?
[03:44] <jm334> ion3lunix, i am trying to install hp printer on parallel port
[03:44] <maikol> and how do i remove gnome... runs too slow on my 64 meg ram comp
[03:44] <xnull> skippy81: : he is loading now the modules.. Configureing X.. OK configure bla bla bal OK everything is Ok..
[03:44] <jm334> ubuntu wont detect it
[03:44] <rever> andrejkw: thanks
[03:44] <jm334> some one posted a patch
[03:44] <dauoalagio> can anyone guide me through downloading and installing a sound driver for my ubuntu 5.10?
[03:44] <jm334> tried to install
[03:44] <jm334> but now cant get it working
[03:44] <planetcall> maikol, apt-get install kde-desktop  to install kde incase you dont like to use gnome
[03:45] <intelikey> tomek_ there is a gui methood to enable root login also
[03:45] <ion3lunix> maikol: consider XFCE4 instead of gnome or kde on a pc with 64mb ram
[03:45] <maikol> planetcall, i would prefer kde, but any desktop is too much for 64mb ram
[03:45] <xnull> do I have a option for non-grafical-mode?
[03:45] <KarlsBerg> hello,
[03:45] <maikol> ion3lunix, where can i get that
[03:45] <KarlsBerg> anybody have a laptop packard bell easynote ?
[03:45] <DarkTower> maikol: xfce is very light will prob work on that
[03:45] <sg47_> how do I upgrade to Dapper from Breezy?
[03:45] <ion3lunix> maikol: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[03:45] <skippy81> yes, xnull either use control-alt-F1 - F6 or boot in recovery mode
[03:45] <planetcall> some suggest xfce and fluxbox etc
[03:45] <planetcall> you may try
[03:45] <DarkTower> maikol: or just type server at the install
[03:45] <xnull> skppy81: http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso this one I download..
[03:45] <maikol> ion3lunix, and to remove gnome?
[03:46] <Capso> Where can I find the tarball for the mesa head used with xorg-air ?
[03:46] <intelikey> xnull " do I have a option for non-grafical-mode? "   man update-rc.d    and turn off gdm   if that is what you mean.
[03:46] <KarlsBerg> anybody have a laptop packard bell easynote (for active swith wireless hotkey)?
[03:46] <PerceptualChaos> skippy81, ion3lunix, it says:
[03:46] <ion3lunix> maikol: the easiest way is to use aptitude (or synaptic) and just uninstall the gnome packages that you can see
[03:47] <Brydenn33> can someone help me auto mount my windows HD?
[03:47] <PerceptualChaos> find: missing argument to -exec
[03:47] <sg47_> a question about rdesktop. Why does the resolution look like crap?
[03:47] <maikol> ion3lunix, ok. and what do i edit to run something at startup
[03:47] <ion3lunix> xnull: you should go to a virtual terminal with control-alt-f1, then from there install the binary ati drivers for your card and restart gdm with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:47] <intelikey> !tell Brydenn33 about ntfs
[03:47] <zanth> good day, I just upgraded to dd and xserver is fubard
[03:48] <zanth> nvidia 6800gt here
[03:48] <Brydenn33> !tell Brydenn about ntfs
[03:48] <skippy81> PerceptualChaos:  how big is your home directory? if its not massive you could just do "gksudo nautilus" and edit the access permissions graphically
[03:48] <KarlsBerg> anybody have a laptop packard bell easynote (for active swith wireless hotkey)?
[03:48] <ion3lunix> Brydenn33: pm me for help mounting your windows drive
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> packard bell? Egads how old is that thing?
[03:48] <PerceptualChaos> I'm trying to do it from bash - in recovery mode
[03:48] <skippy81> oh i see
[03:48] <PerceptualChaos> skippy81
[03:49] <PerceptualChaos> because it seems to be making my system unstable
[03:49] <PerceptualChaos> Error: Temporary failure in name resolution
[03:49] <PerceptualChaos> then: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=156003067&size=o
[03:49] <ion3lunix> PerceptualChaos: instead of the -exec flag, you can do find /whatever -type d | xargs rm -rf
[03:49] <tomek_> i wonder why login as root is not  allowed default - know the password - go ahead, log in, cant see a reason to disavle it..
[03:50] <KarlsBerg> anybody have a laptop packard bell easynote (for active swith wireless hotkey)?
[03:50] <ion3lunix> tomek_: you can more easily mess up your system than if you just provide the password when you need it and run as a regular user the rest of the time
[03:50] <hyphenated> tomek_: how many reasons do you want?
[03:50] <skippy81> PerceptualChaos: im not much of a bash expert, but you could join the #bash channel and see if they can help - they probably know the command you want off by heart
[03:51] <skippy81> just explain to them what you want to chmod the files too and they should be able to give you a command to copy and paste
[03:51] <Capso> Hey... could someone quickly help me find a tarball of the xserver-xorg-air-core package?
[03:51] <PerceptualChaos> thanks
[03:51] <skippy81> im afraid chmoding is one of those things i can only get my head around when im actally trying to do it if you know what i mean
[03:51] <intelikey> tomek_ the 'ubuntu' way is "use only sudo"  don't argue with it.  if you don't like it just ignore it and do it your way.  this is linux after all.
[03:51] <skippy81> sorry im not a lot of help PerceptualChaos
[03:52] <planetcall> Any help on this    checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:52] <ion3lunix> PerceptualChaos: pm me if you're still stuck
[03:52] <PerceptualChaos> :) pointing someone to the right place to get help is indeed help! Thanks skippy81 and ion3lunix
[03:52] <skippy81> :)
[03:52] <ion3lunix> good luck
[03:53] <grndslm> tomek_, why have a root user when you can type "sudo -s" and get a root shell without having to incessantly type sudo before every su command
[03:53] <skippy81> yeah let us know how it goes, theres 200 people in bash channel so you should have luck
[03:53] <matti> tomek_: :-)
[03:53] <disinterested_pe> i cant find where the mozilla plugins went ive installed them
[03:53] <intelikey> skippy81 what's the question ?   i might know.
[03:53] <matti> tomek_: Usmiechnij sie i przyzwyczaj do sudo.
[03:53] <disinterested_pe> mplayer plugins
[03:54] <matti> tomek_: A jezeli to malo, to masz sudo -s -H, albo po prostu sobie zmien haslo na root-a.
[03:54] <matti> tomek_: :-)
[03:54] <skippy81> intelikey:  PerceptualChaos wanted to perform a recursive chmod on his home directory, to try and restore the permissions to how they all are by default
[03:54] <tomek_> i know, just drives me nuts I cant do what exactly ever i want with MY system
[03:54] <ion3lunix> tomek_: Who invented the computer?
[03:55] <kapputu> how do I install all that crap for playing mp3s?
[03:55] <BioVorE> !restricted
[03:55] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:55] <ion3lunix> kapputu: breezy or dapper?
[03:55] <xnull> ubuntu rullz
[03:55] <kapputu> breezy
[03:55] <matti> xnull: Indeed.
[03:55] <kapputu> I want to upgrade to Dapper RC actually
[03:55] <ion3lunix> xnull: Hells yea!
[03:56] <casanova_> when exactly does dapper come to the update repositories?
[03:56] <ion3lunix> kapputu: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:56] <skippy81> can someone explain this bot thing to me please? does using " ! " trigger it to say stuff to save you typing?
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> !bot
[03:56] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[03:56] <casanova_> the /. says it's 1. june
[03:57] <matti> !help
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> skippy81,  A+ man. :P you got it
[03:57] <intelikey> skippy81 a find string would be the best for that. PerceptualChaos " find $HOME -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; ;find $HOME -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;   "
[03:57] <skippy81> :)
[03:57] <matti> skippy81: Use !help ;] 
[03:57] <skippy81> !help
[03:57] <ion3lunix> casanova_: dapper is already in the repositories, you just have to upgrade to it to start using it. it's still in "development" until june 1, the set release date, at which point a final .iso will come out.
[03:57] <skippy81> cool :)
[03:57] <matti> skippy81: Yeaahh :)
[03:57] <kapputu> ion3lunix, isn't there something called as easyubuntu or something?
[03:57] <casanova_> aha
[03:57] <matti> But, the ZoomCities is a bit spammy?
[03:58] <matti> Hm...
[03:58] <ion3lunix> intelikey: i suggested that same incantation, the trouble is that i think he's using busybox or some shell from a recovery console... not sure why it's not working
[03:58] <rendo> Does anyone know of a tool that can be used to convert .dmg files to .iso?
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> rendo,  good luck on that. YOu are refering to OS-X dmg files correct?
[03:58] <grndslm> are there ever updated isos released after the release date....or do you have to upgrade packages over the net after release date?
[03:58] <ion3lunix> rendo: http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/
[03:58] <kapputu> how do I modify network settings to access my windows network?
[03:58] <intelikey> ion3lunix maybe a sudo in the -exec would help
[03:58] <tomek_> can you make it so that youre able to log in as root?
[03:59] <kapputu> and what's the nautilus equivalent in xfce?
[03:59] <rendo> Good luck?  Is it near impossible todo? :/
[03:59] <skippy81> intelikey:  that would make sense, since it was on exec it was failing i think
[03:59] <ion3lunix> kapputu: easyubuntu does exist. overall, it's better to know what it does and understand the reasons rather than just click around blindly, however, it does do the job for many purposes
[03:59] <skippy81> i sent him to #bash for help
[03:59] <joel> First time ever using, intslling lunix very cool I am using kdesktop
[03:59] <intelikey> ZoomCities spam not apriecated around here.  thanks.
[03:59] <ion3lunix> joel: i like lunix too
[03:59] <ion3lunix> joel: It's so solar(is)
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> kapputu,  you mean the file manager? xffm4 i think is its name
[04:00] <ion3lunix> joel: or should i say lunar?
[04:00] <kapputu> ion3lunix, I have a good idea as to what it does since I used to install these stuff before
[04:00] <Brydenn33> ion3lunix: you gonna help me?
[04:00] <ion3lunix> kapputu: i often have look at the easyubuntu script and just used the ideas from it to install things on my own
[04:00] <intelikey> PerceptualChaos " find $HOME -type d -exec sudo chmod 755 {} \; ;find $HOME -type f -exec sudo chmod 644 {} \; ;sudo chown -R $HOME  "
[04:00] <grndslm> tomek_....go read this: http://www.krazypenguin.net/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide
[04:00] <ion3lunix> brydenn33: yup
[04:00] <halibut> if I install the beta version now, how easy will it be to upgrade to final on the 1st of june?
[04:00] <Brydenn33> thank you ion3lunix
[04:00] <intelikey> PerceptualChaos " find $HOME -type d -exec sudo chmod 755 {} \; ;find $HOME -type f -exec sudo chmod 644 {} \; ;sudo chown -R `whoami` $HOME  "
[04:00] <intelikey> ooops
[04:00] <HillTop> kapputu, looks like Thunar is tehfile manager in Xubuntu
[04:01] <casanova_> xbuntu is quite a weird setup
[04:01] <kapputu> I'm not able to see one of my windows machine from ubuntu whereas I can from my XP setup on this machine
[04:01] <grndslm> anybody in here running mythtv?  specifically....on a separate backend and frontend?
[04:01] <tomek_> what makes it slow? ubuntu itself or the "know-to-be-slow" gnome?
[04:02] <casanova_> i'd rather make that sort of an installation from the debian tree just using apt-get in the console, but i'm me
[04:02] <ubuntu> hello
[04:02] <ion3lunix> halibut: 100% easy... just use aptitude or synaptic to do an upgrade and dist-upgrade and you'll be running the final stuff when it comes out on june 1
[04:02] <grndslm> tomek_, what's slow for you?
[04:02] <ion3lunix> ubuntu: hi ubuntu, i think you're a great OS~!
[04:02] <kapputu> I'm not able to see one of my windows machine from ubuntu whereas I can from my XP setup on this machine
[04:02] <ion3lunix> kapputu: can you ping the windows machine from a console? does it respond?
[04:03] <skippy81> lol hello ubuntu :)
[04:03] <kapputu> ion3lunix, I can
[04:03] <tomek_> grndsl: just about anything,, seems like twice as long as winXP... old Duron 650 mhz here
[04:03] <kapputu> I can't find an address bar in the XFCE File Manager
[04:03] <ion3lunix> tomek_: Who invented th ecomputer?
[04:04] <rendo> My question is can this dmg2iso program work natively in Windows because my wife keeps getting this error, does she need something specifically for it?  (I know this isn't an Ubuntu related question, so I'll understand if no one answers)
[04:04] <ion3lunix> kapputu: describe in detail your problem
[04:04] <alfredo> hello people
[04:04] <ion3lunix> rendo: pm me for more info on dmgs
[04:04] <tomek_> ion3linux: dont really recall....
[04:04] <ion3lunix> tomek_: i bet it was a human though
[04:04] <skippy81> rendo, could you clarify what you are aiming to do please?
[04:04] <ion3lunix> tomek_: which is why you NEVER let the machine win
[04:05] <skippy81> hehe
[04:05] <kapputu> ion3lunix, I have a workgroup setup at home. I can see one of the Windows shares in my network. I cannot see the other. I'm able to ping the machine I can't see though.
[04:05] <rendo> Convert a .dmg to a .iso so it will run in Daemon tools on XP.
[04:05] <ion3lunix> tomek_: the human always wins :)
[04:05] <tomek_> ion: bring me THE human :)))
[04:05] <grndslm> tomek_, i'd suggest downloading an amd kernel
[04:05] <anacaona> i need help with drive space
[04:05] <RPG_> Just wondering, can I upgrade from Ubuntu Breezy Badger to ubuntu Dapper Drake without erasing any installed packages and my own personal data?
[04:05] <anacaona> for some reason, the 10GB partition i have for ubuntu is full
[04:05] <ion3lunix> Brydenn33: how'd you make out?
[04:06] <PetrolBomb> :))
[04:06] <ion3lunix> anacaona: yes that could happen
[04:06] <anacaona> after installation there was about 4 gb free
[04:06] <ion3lunix> RPG_: yes you can
[04:06] <RPG_> anacaona: doesn't sound right, my Ubuntu only takes up about 2 GB :)
[04:06] <RPG_> ion3lunix: will there be the possibility that the packates won't work?
[04:06] <grndslm> tomek_, i thought before dapper that xp felt a little snappier compared to ubuntu, but gnome 2.14 seems to solve ALMOST every problem i had with gnome
[04:06] <skippy81> rendo, i assume you allready have this: http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/download.pl?dmg2iso.exe
[04:06] <anacaona> i'm thinking something is creating huge temp files somewhere but for the life of me i can't find anything
[04:07] <rendo> She does, yes.
[04:07] <rendo> But it came up with an error while trying to convert.
[04:07] <tomek_> dont think loading amd specific kernel would help...
[04:07] <skippy81> oh i see :(
[04:07] <rendo> Oh well, she says n/m she'll download a windows version not the mac version. :P
[04:07] <rendo> Serves her right I guess, bwahahah.
[04:07] <grndslm> the biggest problem with gnome is not offering an [UN] LOCK option in the conext menu when you right click the 2 panels....that way you don't have to unlock and then relock EVERY applet, button, etc.
[04:08] <tomek_> gen: i should downgrade then?
[04:08] <grndslm> anacaona, perhaps try filelight.. it's the best visual disk usage program i've seen yet
[04:08] <ion3lunix> RPG_: if you have a breezy install that you've more or less left alone and used the standard universe/multiverse repositories, upgrading should be close to perfect
[04:08] <anacaona> grndslm: dude, i only have 20mb free - will it fit? :-)
[04:08] <skippy81> tomek, i think you should install xubuntu-desktop package
[04:08] <ion3lunix> RPG_: if you've messed around a lot and dpkg -i'd various things without really considering the implications, then yes, you may have some weird dependency problems
[04:09] <grndslm> anacaona, hmm....i really don't know...prolly, try and see
[04:09] <grndslm> i'd bet it'll fit
[04:09] <planetcall> Streaming from http://www.ddindia.gov.in/ works fine in Windows but doesnt seems to be working here in linux. Can anyone try ?
[04:09] <Brydenn33> ion3lunix: what do you mean "how'd i make out?"
[04:09] <ion3lunix> Brydenn33: were you able to succesfully mount your drives via /etc/fstab and have them work correctly in the way you intended?
[04:09] <RPG_> thanks!
[04:09] <anacaona> software i use regularly: firefox, thunderbird, azureus, kate, limewire, amarok
[04:09] <Brydenn33> no ion3lunix
[04:10] <skippy81> planetcall:  do you have realplayer installed?
[04:10] <Brydenn33> can you walk me thorugh it ion3lunix
[04:10] <skippy81> its asf so i think realplayer is the required format
[04:10] <ion3lunix> Brydenn33: okay, if you're still having problems, then I assume you'd ask about them; otherwise, I'd assume that you've either solved it yourself or given up
[04:10] <maikol> it appears that i dont have xubuntu-desktop package or kde-desktop package
[04:10] <planetcall> it required WMP or winamp on windows
[04:10] <planetcall> nope...dont have real  on linux
[04:11] <Agent_bob> what's casing this ?
[04:11] <Agent_bob> Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.freenode.net port 6667 [Cannot
[04:11] <Agent_bob>           assign requested address] 
[04:11] <ion3lunix> Agent_bob: Are you sure you're not trying to connect from IRC 1.0 on MS-Bob on a Windows 3.1 workstation with Trumpet Winsock?
[04:11] <Brydenn33> alright so... this is what i put into fstab: /dev/hdb1       /media/windows  ntfs    uls=utf8,umask=0222,ro 0 0
[04:11] <Brydenn33> saved it
[04:11] <grndslm> planetcall, it opens in totem for me just find
[04:11] <grndslm> fine
[04:11] <Brydenn33> now what?
[04:11] <PerceptualChaos> intelikely, I am logged on as root - the problem is that when I use that command it says "find: missing argument to -exec"
[04:12] <ion3lunix> Brydenn33: sudo mount -a
[04:12] <tomek_> how do i install sth that sptitde nevr finds?
[04:12] <planetcall> :( lemme chk out
[04:12] <red-sox> i need some help
[04:12] <Brydenn33> hmmm ok let me try :)
[04:12] <red-sox> in the breezy install
[04:12] <skippy81> tomek_ sounds like you need to add the repositories
[04:12] <Agent_bob> ion3lunix: are you sure you want me to respond to that ?
[04:12] <skippy81> !repositories
[04:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:12] <red-sox> its like 'x could not be configured'
[04:12] <skippy81> hehe im good with the bot :)
[04:12] <ion3lunix> PerceptualChaos: are you sure you're getting the right text? it's hyphen, "exec", space, "rm -rf", space, left curly brace, right curly brace, space, backslash, semicolon
[04:13] <grndslm> tomek_...what are you trying to install?
[04:13] <red-sox> and before that it said some error about I/O
[04:13] <ruben_> what is the way to send a paquet ICMP type 8 via command to another machine?
[04:13] <ion3lunix> Agent_bob: i think you're a great fellow, just giving you a hard time :)
[04:13] <ruben_> hi first
[04:13] <ion3lunix> Agent_bob: so when do you see this error?
[04:13] <Brydenn33> hey ion3lunix
[04:13] <tomek_> skippy
[04:13] <tomek_> skippy: how do i knoiw what to add?
[04:13] <Brydenn33> i got this error
[04:13] <Brydenn33> warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[04:13] <Brydenn33> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,
[04:13] <Brydenn33>        missing codepage or other error
[04:13] <Agent_bob> when trying to connect to freenode
[04:13] <Rhine> Anyone know how i can play m4a in Amarok i really need to listen to the beatles >.<
[04:14] <ion3lunix> Brydenn33: are you sure that the windows drive is /dev/hdb1? you can check by typing "sudo gparted" to see what's where, make sure that /dev/hdb1 is really the ntfs partition you're trying to mount
[04:14] <skippy81> tomek_ open synaptic, click settings and then repositories
[04:14] <Agent_bob> ion3lunix: this is a fresh install.  and user account can't connect....
[04:14] <Brydenn33> ok hold on
[04:14] <skippy81> then follow the wiki instructions, once you have them all added you are sorted
[04:14] <distanceisdeath> can anyone inform me how to install the alsa driver?
[04:14] <Agent_bob> 21:08 -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.debian.org port 6667 [Cannot
[04:14] <Agent_bob>           assign requested address] 
[04:14] <ion3lunix> Agent-bob: are you online (can you browse the web, ping google.com, etc)?
[04:15] <Brydenn33> yah ion3lunix it's HDB1
[04:15] <Agent_bob> ion3lunix: i'm talking to you on the same box
[04:15] <grndslm> distanceisdeath, i'm pretty sure alsa already comes with the base install
[04:16] <grndslm> what program are you trying to play music with?
[04:16] <maikol> where can i get the xubuntu-desktop package
[04:16] <ion3lunix> Agent_bob: sorry, i don't know about irssi. they might have their own channel though?
[04:16] <ion3lunix> maikol: make sure you have universe (and multiverse? not sure) enabled, then apt-get update, then aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[04:16] <distanceisdeath> grndslm, I cannot hear anything
[04:16] <planetcall> skippy81,  its says No URI Handler for mmsh://.fsfsfsfsfs.asf stream
[04:16] <planetcall> need some library or something?
[04:16] <ion3lunix> Brydenn33: type "sudo mount" to see if it's mounted already
[04:16] <kapputu> if I cannot see the windows shares using the machine name, can I see it using the IP?
[04:17] <Agent_bob> well.  can anyone answer me one question please.  what package, when removed will take all of gnome with it; but leave xorg  ???
[04:17] <ion3lunix> Brydenn33: if it is, then type "sudo umount /dev/hdb1" to unmount it
[04:17] <ion3lunix> Agent_bob: there isn't such a package
[04:17] <Agent_bob> ion3lunix: bull roar
[04:17] <Agent_bob> sure there is
[04:17] <skippy81> planetcall, so it doesnt attempt to open a program, the error happens in the browser?
[04:17] <grndslm> distanceisdeath, are you running dapper?
[04:17] <ion3lunix> Agent_bob: it might be gnome-desktop-environment
[04:17] <Agent_bob> i just don't know the name of it.
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> Agent_bob,  -  ive seen similer question asked many a times.. but never a good answer to it.
[04:17] <planetcall> I opened it in totem. The erro was flagged by TOTEM
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> Agent_bob,  most of the  packages would be meta-packages and not really remove ALL of gnome.
[04:18] <grndslm> planetcall, maybe you need some gstreamer plugins?
[04:18] <distanceisdeath> No, I am not running Dapper. 5.10
[04:18] <ion3lunix> Agent_bob: if you're in such a position to call bull roar, then i'd suggest learning how to use a program like Synaptic or Aptitude (ha!) to find the name of such a package. when you have, i'd love to hear it. Good luck, i'm sure you'll succeed with flying colors!
[04:18] <Agent_bob> Dr_Willis: right. i was thinking more of a lib package
[04:18] <grndslm> alright, well...the only real suggestion i can give you is to go to system -> prefs and make sure input has alsa selected
[04:18] <planetcall> hmm....got gstreamer-mad already..let me look into it
[04:18] <distanceisdeath> Okay.  Lemme try that.
[04:18] <grndslm> distanceisdeath, i mean output, 'scuze me
[04:18] <skippy81> !restricted
[04:18] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> Agent_bob,  as far as i know - No such easy way to do it. Ive seen pwople ask how to remove ALL of kde, or gnome, or whatever.. and its not that easy
[04:19] <distanceisdeath> All right lemme try that.
[04:19] <Agent_bob> Dr_Willis: k.  i'll go find a way.   tell ya how so you can post it on a wiki.  :)
[04:19] <skippy81> planetcall, i think i only installed the various gstreamer plugs named on the restricted page and i was able to listen to the indian radio (couldnt understand it of course :)
[04:19] <maikol> it appears the univers needs internet access, yes? and is there a way to do it in a shell
[04:20] <distanceisdeath> Grndslm, Where would it say Alsa?
[04:20] <ion3lunix> maikol: yes, you need internet access. and yes, you can do it from the shell by editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:20] <grndslm> should be prefs, then "multimedia system selector" or somethin' like that
[04:20] <maikol> well then, time to move everything to the modem...
[04:21] <distanceisdeath> I see sound.
[04:21] <kapputu> hi
[04:21] <ion3lunix> kapputu: howdy pardner
[04:21] <distanceisdeath> AHHHH, Grndslm
[04:21] <planetcall> skippy81, gstreamer-mms is required i guess.  I am installing all of the gstreamer plugins
[04:21] <kapputu> I cannot see one of my windows machines on the network
[04:21] <distanceisdeath> Found it, in face ALSA was not selected.
[04:21] <distanceisdeath> fact*
[04:21] <grndslm> does the test button work?
[04:21] <ion3lunix> planetcall: try gst-register-0.8 as a normal user
[04:22] <distanceisdeath> Yes, it does.
[04:22] <kapputu> brb
[04:22] <distanceisdeath> But the real test, is music from the web.
[04:22] <skippy81> planetcall - sounds like a good idea, maybe install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin also
[04:24] <ion3lunix> so the funny thing is that after using Ubuntu for 3 months and Debian for 9 months, I'm sick of Linux and buying a Mac
[04:24] <RadiantFire> nooooooooo!
[04:24] <RadiantFire> don't do it
[04:24] <RadiantFire> :-)
[04:24] <distanceisdeath> Grndslm, I still have no sound coming from mozilla.  What do I do?
[04:24] <ion3lunix> However I've done some bad shit lately and to make up for it in my conscience i feel like helping random people with linux tonight
[04:24] <skippy81> lol ion3lunix
[04:24] <grndslm> distanceisdeath, what are you trying to play?
[04:25] <ion3lunix> distanceisdeath: install mozilla-mplayer
[04:25] <planetcall> I just updated my system time. Now sudo says    sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 30 12:39:31 2006
[04:25] <KhZilla> may 30th
[04:26] <KhZilla> that's crazy talk
[04:26] <planetcall> lol i am in india
[04:26] <ion3lunix> planetcall: how's the 30th treating you?
[04:26] <KhZilla> India. That's even crazier
[04:26] <distanceisdeath> ionlinux, is that a sudo?
[04:26] <distanceisdeath> Grndslm, just a video file.
[04:26] <planetcall> yeah its morning and its 30
[04:26] <distanceisdeath> Video plays, but no sound.
[04:26] <planetcall> sudo gone mad ?
[04:27] <KhZilla> is your timezone set properly?
[04:27] <ion3lunix> distanceisdeath: sudo aptitude install mozilla-mplayer
[04:27] <distanceisdeath> okay
[04:27] <KhZilla> maybe it thinks you're in some crazy place like Indiana
[04:27] <KhZilla> instead of India
[04:27] <skippy81> lol
[04:27] <ion3lunix> Indiana, what kind of a name is that?
[04:27] <ion3lunix> it's a mixture of... In and Diana
[04:27] <skippy81> how far is india from GMT then? 6 hours?
[04:27] <ion3lunix> which might not be a bad place
[04:28] <planetcall> hehehe lol
[04:28] <ion3lunix> but still... terrible name
[04:28] <planetcall> 5:30 hrs
[04:28] <grndslm> anybody know the difference between mozplugger and mozilla-mplayer?
[04:28] <grndslm> mozplugger has flash too or sumpin?
[04:28] <ion3lunix> apt-cache show mozplugger and apt-cache show mozilla-mplayer, and you'll be all the wiser :)
[04:28] <trevor> can someone lend me a hand with ATICONFIG?
[04:28] <Healot> mozplugger - > the generic mozilla plugin handler, mozilla-mplayer - > mplayer plugin for mozilla
[04:28] <ion3lunix> trevor: ati sucks, buy nvidia. do not pass go or collect $200
[04:28] <trevor> haha
[04:29] <skippy81> grndslm:  mozplugger is for document formats
[04:29] <distanceisdeath> It's installing.
[04:29] <skippy81> grndslm:  mplayer for media
[04:29] <ion3lunix> trevor: i'd prefer you ask someone who actually has used ATI stuff with linux before; i haven't, but if you're still stuck later on, ask again
[04:29] <trevor> well...i have the ATI drivers...I just need help getting dual displays working (correctly)
[04:30] <planetcall> I need a restart or what ? lol cant seem to do any sudoing
[04:30] <skippy81> what card do you have trevor
[04:30] <ion3lunix> planetcall: sudoing is overrated ;p
[04:30] <trevor> ATI a-i-w 9600
[04:30] <ion3lunix> trevor: are you using ATi's binary drivers?
[04:30] <skippy81> arggh i have no idea with one of those
[04:30] <trevor> honestly, not sure
[04:30] <trevor> i got help early today on here with it
[04:31] <bimberi> planetcall: does doing a 'sudo -k' fix it?
[04:31] <ion3lunix> trevor: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep fglrx
[04:31] <trevor> ya...it should be the binary drivers
[04:31] <planetcall> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 30 12:39:31 2006
[04:31] <planetcall>  ......... is it from past ?
[04:31] <ion3lunix> trevor: if you see a line, then yes, it's the binary ones
[04:31] <planetcall> bimberi, nope :(
[04:31] <grndslm> trevor, are you trying to get mirror images?  or different use each monitor as a separate desktop?
[04:32] <trevor> different desktops...
[04:32] <jm334> ion3lunix,
[04:32] <planetcall> but sudo -L does work :)
[04:32] <planetcall> seems ok now
[04:32] <jm334> can u suggest any fix for that apt problem
[04:32] <trevor> ion3lunix, what do you mean by a line?
[04:32] <jm334> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14847
[04:32] <psyke83> hi, when I try to run a certain app it complains "(/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_Dispatch)". Usually I'd just use "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 app", but this time it doesn't help, are there any other libs I can try preloading too?
[04:32] <jm334> can i manually edit dpkg status
[04:33] <psyke83> ZoomCities is a spammer
[04:33] <bimberi> planetcall: kk :)
[04:33] <halibut> does the ubuntu installer make it easy for me to use a seperate home partition?
[04:33] <ion3lunix> can you dpkg -L  xandros-parport-2.6.9-x1
[04:33] <skippy81> trevor if grep finds something it will return the line of text that contained the search word, if it doesnt find anything it returns nothing
[04:33] <trevor> well...it found nothing
[04:33] <ion3lunix> Dr Willis! You left?! Wutcha talkin bout?!
[04:33] <ion3lunix> Bob you're back!
[04:34] <Brydenn33> ion3lunix:  is there a reason why i cant play mp3's on Dapper?
[04:34] <skippy81> ok now do the same thing but grep for ati instead of flxgr
[04:34] <Brydenn33> it plays my OGG files just fine
[04:34] <ion3lunix> !formats
[04:34] <ubotu> ion3lunix: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:34] <Agent_bob> ion3lunix: gconf2    ;p
[04:34] <T_CAN> can i get mp3 playback on ubuntu?
[04:34] <skippy81> !restricted
[04:34] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:34] <distanceisdeath> IonLinux, I installed what you said...But I still have no sound.
[04:34] <ion3lunix> yep mp3 seems to be a hot topic :)
[04:34] <ion3lunix> distanceisdeath: what webpage?
[04:35] <T_CAN> ive tried all of that
[04:35] <Brydenn33> hehe oh... and whats the issue with it ion3lunix
[04:35] <trevor> skippy81, nothing for ATI either :(
[04:35] <T_CAN> still nothin :(
[04:35] <distanceisdeath> IonLinux, http://youtube.com/watch?v=2WQcLPkPn6w&search=underoath%20the%20last
[04:35] <T_CAN> is there anything special I have to do with the gstreamer packages?
[04:35] <ion3lunix> skippy81: what about "radeon"
[04:36] <skippy81> ok trever do this: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and copy the output, paste it into http://pastebin.com/
[04:36] <trevor> ok
[04:36] <ion3lunix> distanceisdeath: ic. it's a flash sound issue
[04:36] <skippy81> good point ion3lunix, but it would be wierd if someone guided him to use "radeon", isnt it deprecated?
[04:36] <distanceisdeath> IonLinux, what do I do?
[04:37] <skippy81> unless of course, its the the best his card can do
[04:37] <trevor> http://pastebin.com/746060
[04:37] <stephan__> whats dapper.....and when is it gonan be released
[04:37] <ion3lunix> skippy81: it's not deprecated: the ATI binary drivers drop support for older cards, and it's picked up by radeon
[04:37] <skippy81> fglrx
[04:37] <ion3lunix> skippy81: the radeon open source driver does even support acceleration for certain cards
[04:37] <skippy81> oh i see :)
[04:38] <ion3lunix> distanceisdeath: so you see the flash movie but don't get sound?
[04:38] <distanceisdeath> Correct.
[04:38] <ion3lunix> distanceisdeath: edit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[04:38] <Rigonatti> hi all..
[04:38] <Rigonatti> can someone lend me a help with my sound card ? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/746058
[04:38] <skippy81> im confused look at his file ion3lunix, why does he have so many devices in it? http://pastebin.com/746060
 the graphics in the log-out window (the nice big colorful ones) are all GPL, right?
[04:38] <ion3lunix> distanceisdeath: there's a line called FIREFOX_DSP. try changing it to "none" or "alsa" or "aoss" (After installing the alsa-oss package) and see what works
[04:38] <FliesLikeABrick> stupid paste\
[04:38] <lnx> any advice on how to play .wma files?
[04:39] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell lnx about w32codecs
[04:39] <ion3lunix> lnx: yes, use windows media player 11 beta under wine cvs under /usr/local
[04:39] <ion3lunix> kidding :)
[04:39] <distanceisdeath> Ion, It says "No write Permission"
[04:39] <skippy81> ok trevor, at the moment you are using the "ati" driver
[04:39] <ion3lunix> right, you need to edit the file using sudo, either with sudo gedit or sudo vim, whatever you want
[04:39] <distanceisdeath> oh yeah
[04:40] <trevor> ok
[04:40] <trevor> i have xorg.conf open in gedit....
[04:40] <Rigonatti> hi! can someone lend me a help with my sound card ? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/746058
[04:40] <Healot> lnx: the first advice, don't dl or make video/audio using Microsoft MPEG-4 encoder... :)
[04:40] <ion3lunix> distanceisdeath: you also need to restart firefox for it to pickup the change. if you're not sure that firefox is totally closed, a killall firefox-bin will take care of that
[04:40] <SurfnKid> what a jog!
[04:40] <distanceisdeath> Okay...wait, It's loading the gedit.
[04:41] <SurfnKid> there were no hotties at the park, except for my friend =D I run with
[04:41] <ion3lunix> is anyone here in college?
[04:41] <SurfnKid> Im gonna be
[04:42] <nomasteryoda|w> ion3lunix, nah most here are in preschool
[04:42] <nomasteryoda|w> jk
[04:42] <ion3lunix> surfnkid: what's your friend's gender?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda|w> ubuntu-offtopic ion3lunix
[04:42] <SurfnKid> Id have to tell her to flash me to find out really
[04:42] <ion3lunix> nope! i was going to suggest joining Debian-Women
[04:43] <Piekipu_pouah> there are no french ir ?
[04:43] <distanceisdeath> Ughhh, my gedit isn't working.
[04:43] <lnx> how do you run a script?
[04:43] <SurfnKid> but im sure she's a chick
[04:43] <SurfnKid> =D
[04:43] <ion3lunix> lnx: sh scriptname
[04:43] <skippy81> trevor: http://pastebin.com/746065
[04:43] <grndslm> distanceisdeath, try nano...it's way easier
[04:43] <ion3lunix> SurfnKid: so what else do you do for fun besides eat, sleep, and harass people on linux chatrooms?
[04:43] <grndslm> sudo nano /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[04:43] <SurfnKid> lol
[04:44] <SurfnKid> shhhh youre blowing my cover man
[04:44] <distanceisdeath> Hey Ion, there is no firefox in my etc.
[04:44] <skippy81> trevor that version should use your proper driver, now you want to save a backup of xorg.conf as xorg-backup.com and then replace the file with what i sent you
[04:44] <trevor> ok
[04:44] <glick> hehe i think i found a baaad X bug
[04:44] <glick> i dapper
[04:44] <glick> in dapper
[04:44] <lnx> where is the xmms-wma plugin?
[04:45] <skippy81> now trevor, just makesure you save the backup
[04:45] <trevor> ya
[04:45] <SurfnKid> I havent learned to harass yet, Im in preschool remember
[04:45] <SurfnKid> its fun to eat and sleep, that i do a lot
[04:45] <glick> when i overflow a buffer in this multithreaded server i wrote garbage starts filling the screen and X reboots
[04:45] <glick> lol
[04:45] <ion3lunix> Surfnkid: oh yeah, you like playing with words or what?
[04:46] <T_CAN> my rhythmbox still doesnt recognize an mp3s
[04:46] <lmurillo> hi
[04:46] <SurfnKid> where ya from ion
[04:46] <SurfnKid> got ubuntu?
[04:46] <skippy81> trevor if your x wont start you need to log into the shell and use "cp /etc/X11/xorgbackup.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf", write it down :D
[04:46] <distanceisdeath> Where is firefox in my root?
[04:46] <lmurillo> question how can I order 30 Ubuntu CDs?
[04:46] <trevor> ok
[04:46] <planetcall> lmurillo, you cant
[04:46] <lmurillo> really
[04:46] <lmurillo> damn
[04:46] <ion3lunix> SurfnKid: eh, you know... the country by day, city by night
[04:46] <skippy81> trevor one youve replace the file wiht the changes do a reboot, hopefull you should be using the proprietary driver then
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> lmurillo, you have a friend?
[04:47] <trevor> ok
[04:47] <SurfnKid> word!
[04:47] <trevor> ttyl
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> you can do it that way
[04:47] <lmurillo> nomasteryoda|w: ?
[04:47] <T_CAN> !mp3
[04:47] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:47] <ion3lunix> lmurillo: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[04:47] <lmurillo> I need them for an activity at my U
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> ordering 30 discs
[04:47] <ion3lunix> Linux Installfest?!
[04:47] <ion3lunix> those things rock
[04:47] <SurfnKid> Im jogging with this chick who's insecure about her relationship with her current boyfriend
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> lmurillo, such good press for ubuntu
[04:47] <lmurillo> ion3lunix: yeah
[04:47] <ion3lunix> lmurillo: that's sweet. we did one at Brown last semester
[04:48] <lmurillo> last time I ordered 25
[04:48] <lnx> can anything play wma with drm?
[04:48] <nomasteryoda|w> people... PlanetPenguin Racer now works super on Ubuntu and my Intel-based laptop
[04:48] <ion3lunix> lmurillo: i installed Kubuntu PowerPC alongside OSX for this girl's powerbook
[04:48] <lmurillo> this one would be in the National University at Costa Rica
[04:48] <SurfnKid> someone like that wont last very long, the guy is a body builder, she's getting flabby, and its getting to her head
[04:48] <nomasteryoda|w> 38.3fps on doing
[04:48] <GPLGeek> lmurillo, just get one of your buddies to order too
[04:48] <ion3lunix> lmurillo: it was very educational, we also had stallman give a talk at brown
[04:48] <grndslm> lnx, you've installed the w32codecs?
[04:48] <lmurillo> whoa, that would be great
[04:48] <SurfnKid> lmurillo are you in costa rica?
[04:48] <T_CAN> i dont see the "gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:48] <ion3lunix> i gotta go guys
[04:48] <T_CAN> " package anywhere
[04:48] <ion3lunix> and gals
[04:48] <ion3lunix> enjoy
[04:48] <lmurillo> SurfnKid: yeah
[04:48] <nomasteryoda|w> ion3lunix, i hope he was downwind
[04:48] <ion3lunix> and peace
[04:48] <SurfnKid> later ion :)
[04:48] <nomasteryoda|w> =D
[04:49] <skippy81> goodnight ion3lunix
[04:49] <SurfnKid> PM me lmurillo
[04:49] <lmurillo> k
[04:49] <lnx> grndslm...is there anyway to play without doing the w32codecs?
[04:49] <SurfnKid> hey skipp did ion take an offense about something ?
[04:49] <SurfnKid> and I thought I was nice to people
[04:49] <T_CAN> anyone know if i need an internet connection to get gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:49] <skippy81> no i dont think so, he has been here half of the night, probably tired :D
[04:50] <skippy81> T_CAN:  yes
[04:50] <skippy81> it isnt on the cd
[04:50] <grndslm> lnx, the w32codecs are fairly necessary on a desktop computer
[04:50] <skippy81> and copying it over from another PC is a nightmare
[04:50] <T_CAN> well that sucks
[04:50] <lmurillo> SurfnKid: you registered?
[04:50] <SurfnKid> Skippy Phew..  for a second i thought I had poured octane all over him
[04:51] <SurfnKid> yeah, my mom says I can vote
[04:51] <lmurillo> heh
[04:51] <SurfnKid> :P
[04:51] <lmurillo> I mean to IRC
[04:51] <SurfnKid> yeah
[04:51] <lmurillo> cuz I PMed you
[04:51] <grndslm> anybody in here use mythtv?
[04:51] <SurfnKid> ohhh
[04:51] <SurfnKid> oh oh oh
[04:51] <lmurillo> heh
[04:51] <skippy81> :)
[04:51] <SurfnKid> hang on
[04:51] <lmurillo> k
[04:51] <Brydenn33> dammit
[04:52] <Brydenn33> amarok wont play mp3's for me still
[04:52] <SurfnKid> gime the command to register
[04:52] <Brydenn33> what do i have to install?
[04:52] <lmurillo> hmmm
[04:52] <SurfnKid> !register
[04:52] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:52] <lmurillo> ah, there
[04:52] <lmurillo> heh
[04:52] <skippy81> Brydenn33 have you been throught the restricted formats wiki?
[04:52] <T_CAN> Brydenn, have you gotten gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:52] <skippy81> !restricted
[04:52] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:52] <Brydenn33> no skippy81
[04:52] <skippy81> follow the link provided by ubotu
[04:53] <skippy81> once youve gone through it you should be good to go
[04:53] <irina_> hey guys: I have used K3B to Format a DVD RW disk. I wrote some files and now I want to remove them from the DVD RW. How do I do it.  (In Windows I just need to press delete but I have no Ideead how to do it in Ubuntu or Debian)
[04:53] <lnx> anyone know an easy script to convert wma to mp3?
[04:53] <skippy81> mp3s are a 'restricted' format, and therefore the codecs to play them has to be stored away from ubuntus product
[04:53] <SurfnKid> it says im already registered
[04:53] <lmurillo> k
[04:54] <lmurillo> then, have your identified yourself?
[04:54] <Brydenn33> omg that's sooooooooooo lame
[04:54] <marsswell> as I make to install the Dapper version?
[04:54] <SurfnKid> how ?
[04:54] <torpedo|dog> SurfnKid, /msg nickserv identify <password>
[04:54] <SurfnKid> ah
[04:54] <lmurillo> /msg nickserv identify pass
[04:54] <lmurillo> yeah, that
[04:54] <skippy81> lnx have you tried nautilus-script-audio-convert from synaptic?
[04:55] <SurfnKid> ok i think im good thanks Torpedo|dogo
[04:55] <SurfnKid> err dog
[04:55] <torpedo|dog> hehe, you're welcome :)
[04:55] <planetcall> skippy81, using dapper ?
[04:55] <skippy81> planetcall:  yep :)
[04:55] <marsswell> as I make to install the Dapper version?
[04:55] <skippy81> quack quack
[04:56] <planetcall> probably thats why asf and wmv are working for u with totem :P
[04:56] <planetcall> tried a lot..could not get it to work
[04:56] <skippy81> maybe realplayer is your best bet
[04:56] <skippy81> are you 32 bit?
[04:56] <planetcall> yeah
[04:57] <planetcall> i am going for VLC
[04:57] <torpedo|dog> VLC = amazing
[04:57] <skippy81> try realplayer, it should do the asfs easily
[04:57] <distanceisdeath> Terrible!  How Terrible For This Great City!
[04:57] <planetcall> want FOSS
[04:57] <torpedo|dog> I prefer FLOSS
[04:57] <planetcall> L ??
[04:57] <torpedo|dog>  ibre
[04:57] <distanceisdeath> And what is FOSS?
[04:57] <Madpilot> Free/Libre
[04:58] <torpedo|dog>  ree  pen  ource  oftware
[04:58] <planetcall> FOSS  = Free and Open Source Software
[04:58] <PerceptualChaos> ion3lunix, skippy81 - I tried running the originally suggested commands from the terminal inside x-windows and it worked great so I guess it just wasn't working from recovery mode prompt thing (whats the name for that?)
[04:58] <planetcall> Ubuntu is FOSS
[04:58] <torpedo|dog> Firefox is FOSS
[04:58] <allen> evenign
[04:58] <distanceisdeath> Ohhh
[04:58] <distanceisdeath> Open source
[04:58] <PerceptualChaos> thanks again
[04:58] <grndslm> ok...so what's the difference between flashplayer-mozilla and libflash-mozplugin?  libflash is open source and the other isn't?
[04:58] <skippy81> PerceptualChaos: well its good to know your sorted now
[04:58] <lmurillo> hmm, so there's no way I can order 30 PC CDs in one single shipment?
[04:58] <skippy81> iso went to bed :(
[04:59] <Healot> but do anyone here FLOSS, hehe
[04:59] <planetcall> grndslm, yea
[04:59] <Healot> lmurillo: yeah the mass order gone?
[04:59] <grndslm> planetcall, i'm gonna guess that you use the flashplayer-mozilla one?
[04:59] <T-CAN> is there any way to keep a vfat filesystem permently mounted so i dont have to mount it every time i reboot??
[04:59] <planetcall> yeah
[04:59] <jm334>     *** ptal-mlcd failed to start!  Check syslog file for error messages.
[04:59] <planetcall> i love youtube
[04:59] <jm334> my parallel printer wont work
[04:59] <skippy81> i dont strictly FOSS but i refuse to encode anything into a restricted format
[04:59] <arep> hg
[05:00] <skippy81> no way will i let M$ and apple get their paws on my music :)
[05:00] <planetcall> hehehe
[05:00] <T-CAN> anyone?
[05:00] <baconbacon> T-CAN: everything is unmounted on powerdown
[05:00] <planetcall> but I only use MP3
[05:00] <skippy81> apparantly the iriver music players do ogg format easily
[05:00] <NoUse> T-CAN you can have it automount at start by adding auto to the mount options in fstab
[05:00] <grndslm> soo....nobody here has setup a MythBox?
[05:01] <NoUse> grndslm I have but I used knoppmyth
[05:01] <skippy81> grndslm:  not yet im afraid
[05:01] <T-CAN> ill give that a try, thanks
[05:01] <skippy81> theres a lot of HTPC sites which have guides though
[05:01] <grndslm> skippy81, i've searched but i can't connect my frontend to the backend database
[05:01] <grndslm> prolly some mysql problem
[05:01] <grndslm> mysql is a biatch
[05:02] <NoUse> grndslm seperate machines?
[05:02] <skippy81> ok has it setup a user account called mysql yet?
[05:02] <tuxtheslacker> hello, what are some good webcam programs?
[05:02] <tuxtheslacker> aside form gnomemeeting?
[05:02] <planetcall> VLC plays asf streams............but no video
[05:02] <allen> any antivirus for ubuntu?
[05:02] <anderson_> ola boa noite
[05:03] <grndslm> NoUse, yup...I've got a PVR-500 on a super slow Celeron MoBo, and i'm trying to decode all the files from my desktop while the backend runs non-stop
[05:03] <distanceisdeath> okay, I have a .deb file here.  How do I install it?
[05:03] <tuxtheslacker> allen, there's clamav, but I doubt u'd ever need it.
[05:03] <grndslm> distanceisdeath.... "dpkg -i [packagename] "
[05:03] <allen> how bout a firewall?
[05:03] <tuxtheslacker> distanceisdeath, dpkg -i <packagename>
[05:03] <distanceisdeath> Do I have to be in the directory?
[05:03] <skippy81> planetcall i didnt manage to get the video either, i just had the audio track
[05:03] <todayisagift> hey all
[05:03] <NoUse> grndslm check /etc/mysql/my.cnf and make sure you have it bound to an address
[05:03] <todayisagift> any place that has a list of drivers i can download??
[05:03] <planetcall> its a video stream
[05:04] <todayisagift> i need a sound cartd driver
[05:04] <skippy81> im sure that to get asf video you must need the realplayer plugin
[05:04] <NoUse> grndslm networking is disabled by default in Ubuntu for security reasons
[05:04] <grndslm> distanceisdeath, don't forget about the sudo.... or if you're initially configuring a pc for the first time, then use "sudo -s" at first...THEN do administrative commands
[05:04] <Pino> j #fedora
[05:04] <NoUse> grndslm I should say mysql networking
[05:04] <tuxtheslacker> anyone know of a good video conferencing program from linux aside from gnomemeeting?
[05:04] <NoUse> Pino you need a / in front j '/j #fedora'
[05:05] <Pino> 3ks
[05:05] <skippy81> although, actually planetside i could be wrong, i think asf is actually an M$ format, not a realplayer one
[05:05] <tuxtheslacker> anyone?
[05:05] <distanceisdeath> I did the "dpkg -i" command and it says "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege"
[05:05] <distanceisdeath> What to do?
[05:05] <bur[n] er> skippy81: you're right... asf is ms
[05:05] <leboff> sudo dpkg -i
[05:05] <skippy81> distanceisdeath:  add sudo before the command
[05:05] <bur[n] er> distanceisdeath: sudo dpkg -i blah
[05:05] <torpedo|dog> distanceisdeath: add a 'sudo' in front
[05:05] <ShastaMaroon> what's the package name for the ati drivers?
[05:05] <tuxtheslacker> hello?
[05:06] <bur[n] er> tuxtheslacker: ekiga :)
[05:06] <grndslm> NoUse, so how do i enable mysql networking?
[05:06] <bur[n] er> tuxtheslacker: skype?
[05:06] <todayisagift> i need a sound card driver can anyone help?
[05:06] <grndslm> where do i put the ip addresses in my.cnf
[05:06] <tuxtheslacker> okay, ZoomCities is spamming me with an ad...
[05:06] <torpedo|dog> skippy81, bur[n] er: perhaps we could be slightly more redundant ;)
[05:06] <distanceisdeath> oh okay.
[05:06] <bimberi> !tell ShastaMaroon about ati
[05:06] <tuxtheslacker> bur[n] er, where are the settings in skype?
[05:06] <crimsun> todayisagift: what sound card?
[05:06] <valehru> Hey guys, is there a way I can mount .bin files without burning it to a disk?
[05:06] <bur[n] er> got me tuxtheslacker, i don't know if that works, i use ekiga
[05:06] <ShastaMaroon> thanks bimberi
[05:06] <bimberi> ShastaMaroon: np :)
[05:07] <bur[n] er> valehru: convert bin 2 iso, then mount the iso?
[05:07] <skippy81> valehru its easy to mount isos, but bin is a lot harder i think
[05:07] <todayisagift> crumsun it is your basic generic sound card, run of the mill, in an older dell
[05:07] <leboff> ok, so i really screwed up my sound.  Let me just say i'm a real beginner in linux.  I had sound working fine, but it was only in 2 of my 5.1 .. so i tried realtek's audio drivers first (the ac'97 drivers) and no dice (lost sound at this point) and then i tried the drivers from nvidia (nforce drivers) and sound still doesnt work. i'm pretty sure i screwed up all my config files somewhere along the way.  anyone have experience with this
[05:07] <leboff>  or help me out?
[05:07] <tuxtheslacker> bur[n] er, is there one available for window?
[05:07] <NoUse> grndslm change the 'bind-address' to the address of your machine
[05:07] <crimsun> todayisagift: age of the dell? I need specifics.
[05:07] <bur[n] er> tuxtheslacker: ekiga works with ms netmeeting
[05:07] <valehru> bur[n] er, how can i convert it to ISO on ubuntu?
[05:07] <jm334>     *** ptal-mlcd failed to start!  Check syslog file for error messages.
[05:07] <maikol-tmp> i enabled the universe, i did apt-get update. but when i tried aptitude install xubuntu-desktop is says some of the dependencies are unmet. fix?
[05:07] <allen> what firewall would you all suggest for ubuntu?
[05:07] <jm334> i am getting this error with hp printer
[05:07] <bur[n] er> tuxtheslacker: and there will be an ekiga for windows, but in time.... no time soon
[05:08] <bur[n] er> allen: firestarter
[05:08] <grndslm> NoUse, the backend ip correct?....or add the frontend ip to the backend my.cnf?
[05:08] <todayisagift> crimsun it is a Dell Optiplex Gx1
[05:08] <leboff> and if someone can help me out, can we do it in pm . cause its crazy in here
[05:08] <todayisagift> i cant get you a specific "age"
[05:08] <crimsun> todayisagift: In a Terminal,``sudo modprobe snd-cs4236''
[05:08] <bimberi> maikol-tmp: put your sources.list on the pastebin
[05:08] <allen> is it pretty easy to configure....burner?
[05:08] <tuxtheslacker> bur[n] er, do you want to send a link to ekiga?
[05:09] <tuxtheslacker> I have a web cam that pretty much hangs... EVERYTHING. :-/.
[05:09] <skippy81> allen: linux kernel has a built in firewall called iptables, firestarter is a frontend you can download for it
[05:09] <bur[n] er> tuxtheslacker: google.com/search?q=ekiga
[05:09] <maikol-tmp> bimberi, that might take a while, its really slow so hold up a while
[05:09] <bimberi> maikol-tmp: kk :)
[05:09] <baconbacon> maikol-tmp, works here
[05:09] <NoUse> grndslm you change it to the address of the back-end
[05:09] <DarkTower> Does anyone know how to view publisher files in ubuntu without wine?
[05:09] <allen> ok..thanks...my first day with ubutu
[05:09] <tuxtheslacker> bur[n] er, thank ye. They should really have a / command for a google search.
[05:10] <maikol-tmp> baconbacon, the computer is slow i meant
[05:10] <skippy81> allen:  have you used synaptic yet?
[05:10] <bur[n] er> tuxtheslacker: what i'm thinking too ;)
[05:10] <todayisagift> crimsun i ran it, it asked for my password, i typed it in, it went to the next line cursor blinked a few times and then went back to the normal prefix before i typed sudo...
[05:10] <baconbacon> maikol-tmp: sry but i was talking about the xubuntu thing
[05:10] <allen> no..very familiar with yum
[05:10] <grndslm> and this is the my.cnf on the backend, right?  i'm confused why aptitude automagically installs mysql on my ubuntu frontend when it's not needed?
[05:10] <bur[n] er> xubuntu is wonderful :)
[05:10] <crimsun> todayisagift: ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''
[05:10] <allen> have apt-get xmms
[05:11] <skippy81> allen:  ah ok if you were able to apt-get xmms then you should be set
[05:11] <NoUse> grndslm because it needs mysql libs to talk to the server
[05:11] <allen> yes..i got it set up with the help from this room
[05:11] <emi> hi
[05:11] <tuxtheslacker> bur[n] er, whoudl you have anhy idea why creative webcam notebook crashes when you try to use it on... ANYTHING?
[05:11] <skippy81> allen: "sudo apt-get firestarter" should help you on your way with a firewall
[05:11] <NoUse> grndslm the my.cnf is on the backend, yes
[05:11] <skippy81> allen: firestarter is pretty easy to set up, its got a wizard style to it
[05:11] <bur[n] er> tuxtheslacker: i wouldn't
[05:12] <emi> I got a ati 9200 second how do I install the drivers to got 3d acc.?
[05:12] <bur[n] er> !ati
[05:12] <torpedo|dog> allen: try 'sudo apt-get install firestarter'
[05:12] <ubotu> I heard ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:12] <tuxtheslacker> bur[n] er, what webcam do you have?
[05:12] <bur[n] er> tuxtheslacker: logitech quickcam
[05:12] <todayisagift> crimsun: you are the effing man, i appreciate that so much!! how in the hell did you find that so fast??!
[05:12] <tuxtheslacker> bur[n] er, which model?
[05:12] <crimsun> todayisagift: I know it.
[05:12] <CarlF1> what package has the man command?
[05:12] <tuxtheslacker> bur[n] er, *crosses finger for a 5000, because that's all i can find)
[05:12] <crimsun> todayisagift: ``echo snd_cs4236 |sudo tee -a /etc/modules''
[05:12] <zach> hello... device manager shows ati cards and shows for secondary...how do i enable dual mointors?
[05:13] <grndslm> man's installed by default...it's a system command
[05:13] <crimsun> todayisagift: that last command will load the driver automatically on boot
[05:13] <CarlF1> not on ubuntu-server
[05:13] <allen> im downloading it but dialup sucks
[05:13] <bur[n] er> tuxtheslacker: it's older than a 5000... but they're all pretty similar
[05:13] <torpedo|dog> CarlF1: are you sure? that's not right.
[05:13] <grndslm> CarlF1, that's awkward
[05:14] <CarlF1> -bash: man: command not found
[05:14] <CarlF1> belive me yet? ;)
[05:14] <torpedo|dog> CarlF1: try 'info <command>' and see what happens.
[05:14] <tuxtheslacker> bur[n] er, could you do me a favor and sniff around to see if a 500 is supported. I think I have to take this one back tomorrow.
[05:14] <CarlF1> why would a server need docs?
[05:14] <zach> anyone ?
[05:14] <skippy81> surely it has man lol
[05:14] <skippy81> sounds like root has been deleted to me :D
[05:15] <allen> ok.. igot it  if i can find it
[05:15] <torpedo|dog> CarlF1: it's a lot easier to administrate that way ;)
[05:15] <bimberi> CarlF1: man-db is the package
[05:15] <CarlF1> yea!  thanks
[05:15] <todayisagift> crimsun: it did play that "startup.wav" but i cannot get anything else to play, no cds, or the "test sounds, like the game sound" all volume is up and none are muted, should i do a reboot?
[05:15] <allen> is firestarter a gui or ran from the command line?
[05:16] <torpedo|dog> Is there a way to extract just one directory from a tar file?
[05:16] <crimsun> are you currently logged into gnome/
[05:16] <Madpilot> allen, gui
[05:16] <crimsun> ^ todayisagift
[05:16] <torpedo|dog> I'm wanting to do it on the command line.
[05:16] <allen> where does it put the gui?
[05:16] <skippy81> allen: im not actually too sure hehe, you should be able to launch it from a terminal though
[05:16] <daniel_> hello
[05:17] <Madpilot> allen, after you install Firestarter, it should be at Applications->System Tools->Firestarter
[05:17] <allen> i can launch it from a terminal
[05:17] <Madpilot> allen, or Alt+F2 and just type firstarter
[05:17] <allen> yeaugh its not there
[05:17] <Madpilot> firestarter, even
[05:17] <cocox> can i manage my bandwidth with iptables ??
[05:17] <skippy81> allen maybe its under Applications > Internet
[05:18] <skippy81> but as Madpilot said, its easy enought to launch with an alt-F2 run box
[05:18] <emi> hmm I don`t have xorg-driver-fglrx on sysnaptic ...http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver trying to make after this doc
[05:18] <tuxtheslacker> anyone know of any other good video conferencing programs for linux?
[05:18] <skippy81> emi have you enabled multiverse and universe yet?
[05:18] <skippy81> !repositories
[05:18] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:19] <emi> skippy81: trying..
[05:19] <daniel_> anyone had any luck upgrading from hoary to dapper?
[05:19] <skippy81> hoary to dapper? i wouldnt fancy it
[05:19] <Healot> the Irish had :)
[05:20] <daniel_> im trying to get the broadcom 43xx driver to work and ive got instructions in dapper
[05:20] <daniel_> anyone had any luck in hoary with this card?
[05:20] <Madpilot> daniel_, you'd probably want to go Hoary->Breezy, then Breezy->Dapper
[05:21] <goffa> not sure if this is the appropriate place to ask this... but i'm having nfs troubles on my ubuntu box...  i can move/copy files around the ubuntu box fine... i can access files over the network fine.. as soon as i copy files the transfer freezes
[05:21] <zach> can anyone help me enable dual monitor in dapper?
[05:21] <goffa> until i do a umount -f /mnt/extra6 (mountpoint)
[05:21] <daniel_> thanks madpilot
[05:21] <maikol> its gonna take even longer now because for some reason, everytime i type something it types it like 5 times
[05:21] <eydaimon> how to configure X these days? xf86config seems to be gone
[05:22] <daniel_> is there an dist-upgrade through apt-get that will do this for me?
[05:22] <goffa> maikol: xorg.conf?
[05:22] <allen> how do i stop this from responding to a ping?
[05:22] <Healot> eydaimon: "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:22] <eydaimon> Healot: cheers
[05:22] <skippy81> allen:  dropping pings is known as "stealth mode" usually
[05:22] <maikol> goffa duno what that is
[05:23] <skippy81> i suggest you use nmap, you should be able to scan your own host with it
[05:23] <skippy81> sudo apt-get nmap
[05:23] <allen> yeaugh well my comptuter is stealthed but still answers a ping request
[05:23] <shulman> how do I make my taskbar (the bar with all open windows)  two lines?
[05:23] <emi> skippy81: : I enabled but still no xorg-driver
[05:23] <emi> skippy81: should I enable sources too?
[05:23] <coz_> anyone here good with udev
[05:24] <goffa> maikol: check /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:24] <goffa> that's the file that compares to xfree syntax is basically the same
[05:25] <emi> skippy81: i found Video driver for the ATI Radeon and FireGL graphics accelerators.
[05:25] <Madpilot> shulman, try right-clicking on it, select Properties, and crank the height right up
[05:25] <goffa> actually if you have an xfree config you should be able to just rename it
[05:25] <emi> skippy81: i have xorg-driver-flgx and xorg-driver-flgx-dev ? do I need only the first ?
[05:25] <maikol> goffa, why do i need to compare
[05:26] <tuxtheslacker> are there any linux webcam channels?
[05:26] <shulman>  Madpilot: I don't see anyplace to select height in there...
[05:26] <goffa> maikol: you don't
[05:26] <Madpilot> shulman, the Size setting
[05:27] <xerophyte> how can i start the filemanager in gnome?? i dont find the link to it
[05:27] <maikol> goffa, then why did you tell me that/
[05:27] <torpedo|dog> xerophyte: type 'nautilus' in at a command line.
[05:27] <Madpilot> xerophyte, Places->Home Folder
[05:27] <shulman> Madpilot: it has min: 50, max 4096... tried changing the min to 100 with no change
[05:27] <goffa> maikol: i was meaning that it is comparable...
[05:27] <skippy81> yeah you dont need the dev package emi
[05:27] <goffa> as in... they releate
[05:27] <xerophyte> Madpilot, got ti thanks
[05:27] <goffa> not that you need to set them side by side
[05:27] <Madpilot> shulman, with a couple of apps open it'll go to double lines, otherwise you just get tall buttons
[05:28] <todayisagift> crimsum: sweet all sound is working i appreciate it
[05:28] <emi> skippy81: thanks in a few minuts the drivers are going to be installed..
[05:28] <skippy81> allen:- you need to set the ICMP settings to block ping requests, then set the stealth mode i think
[05:28] <todayisagift> crimsum: what about decoders to play, mp3's and mpegs so on and so forth?
[05:28] <skippy81> emi : cool :)
[05:28] <distanceisdeath> Hello, Can anyone help me on installing JAVA?  I believe I have the correct .bin file.
[05:28] <RancidLM> hey all i removed my nvidia-glx and compiled my own nvidia drivers, but every time i reboot i have to re-install them because Xdisplay isn't able to start.. any suggestions on how to get my nvidia drivers to work at boot?
[05:28] <upup> I am a beginning UBUNTU user,,, on 5.10, is it advised to update to DD 6.x ?
[05:29] <torpedo|dog> distanceisdeath: go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and look there
[05:29] <daniel_> bye
[05:29] <skippy81> todayisagifi you need to see the wiki on restricted formats
[05:29] <allen> hey upup my first day on 5.10 also
[05:29] <skippy81> !restricted
[05:29] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:29] <Boelcke> Evening. Printer question: to get my printer shared across the network, I added "ServerName 192.168.1.100" to my clients.conf file. Any advice on how to name that the actual hostname?  My IP changes a la DHCP...
[05:29] <torpedo|dog> it's a bit hard, but you should get it.
[05:29] <shulman> madpilot: I still don't seem to have it at the right height... is there a conf file I can edit?
[05:29] <emi> skippy81: brb restart:)
[05:29] <Madpilot> shulman, no idea. You could have a look thru gconf-editor, I guess
[05:29] <skippy81> ok you will still probably have to set up xorg to use the driver though
[05:29] <todayisagift> crimsun: sweet all sound is working i appreciate that! what about decoders for mp3's mpegs, so on and so forth?
[05:30] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell todayisagift about mp3
[05:30] <skippy81> !restricted
[05:30] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:30] <todayisagift> skippy81: where can i find the wiki article?
[05:30] <Boelcke> While you do need to read the RestrictedFormats, you might want to check out http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[05:30] <Madpilot> todayisagift, check the PM you just got
[05:30] <skippy81> read ubotus link mate
[05:30] <Boelcke> I did it all manually on my first ubuntu install, and this was much easier!
 what IRC client are you using ?
[05:31] <allen> xchat
[05:32] <upup> how do you direct a message to someone and have it HIGHLIGHT and beep, like you did to me...that was cool
[05:32] <emi> skippy81: how do I check now if I have 3d acc.?
[05:32] <Madpilot> upup, just start a line with their nick
[05:32] <majd> Hey
[05:32] <cocox> can  i manage my bandwidth with iptables ??
[05:33] <majd> how can i get the xfce-panel on the bottom in gnome?
[05:33] <skippy81> emi, ok first we need to setup your xorg.conf file
[05:33] <upup> Madpilot like this
[05:33] <majd> sorta like http://www.ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=2738&original=1&c=2
[05:33] <emi> skippy81: i did like on that docs..
[05:33] <Madpilot> upup, yes. that's an IRC client thing - different ones do different sorts of highlighting/etc
[05:33] <upup> brilliant, thanks..
[05:33] <jrattner1> How do i install Gnome Bling Manager (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeBlingManager) its not in the repos?
[05:34] <allen> i prefer xchat..ive used it DSL, FC4 and a few others
[05:34] <B0FH> !sources
[05:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:34] <skippy81> ah ok cool emi, hang on im just looking for a link
[05:35] <Madpilot> jrattner1, there should be files on that page
[05:35] <emi> skippy81: :ok.. I
[05:36] <jrattner1> Madpilot, how do i install the package
[05:36] <emi> skippy81: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver after this I made..
[05:36] <Madpilot> jrattner1, get the .deb file, and if you're running Dapper, just double-click on it to start the install
[05:37] <Boelcke> Evening. Printer question: to get my printer shared across the network, I added "ServerName 192.168.1.100" to my clients.conf file. Any advice on how to name that the actual hostname?  My IP changes a la DHCP...
[05:37] <skippy81> ok emi, open a terminal and type: cat /etc/xorg.conf/ | grep flgx
[05:37] <jrattner1> Madpilot, ewww i wish i had dapper : ) how do i install the .deb?
[05:37] <todayisagift> madpilot: i apologize i am fairly new at ubuntu, but i do have most of the basics, however reading the article, what are they referring to when they say "use your favorite package manager to install..."
[05:37] <skippy81> it should return a few lines, if it does then your ati driver should be loaded
[05:37] <Healot> Boelcke: you can run a DNS/DCHP server, to map your IPs dynamically
[05:37] <skippy81> does your desktop feel a bit "snappier" emi?
[05:38] <torpedo|dog> jrattner1: open up a terminal, go to the directory, and type in 'sudo dpkg -install filename.deb'
[05:38] <Healot> so the name would stay the same, without knowing the IP...
[05:38] <Madpilot> todayisagift, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager is easiest
[05:38] <emi> skippy81: grep flg* /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:38] <emi> emi@emi-desktop:~$
[05:38] <emi> .
[05:38] <jrattner1> torpedo|dog, thanks
[05:38] <emi>  glxinfo |grep -i direct
[05:38] <emi> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:38] <emi> direct rendering: No
[05:38] <emi> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:38] <emi> sorry for paste ...
[05:38] <Madpilot> emi, pastebin next time, thanks
[05:38] <grndslm> Boelcke, what kinda router ya got?
[05:38] <emi> ok Madpilot
[05:39] <skippy81> emi are you in gnome now?
[05:39] <emi> skippy81: yes
[05:39] <Boelcke> grndslm, Linksys 4-port wired
[05:39] <emi> skippy81: and its working very hard.. no 3d acc..
[05:40] <skippy81> try sudo apt-get fglrx-control
[05:40] <allen> kewllll...thanks guys..the computer is stealthed and doesnt answer a ping request
[05:40] <molinero> !molinux
[05:40] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, molinero
[05:40] <Boelcke> Oh, can I somehow force a non-changing IP address to this machine?
[05:40] <Boelcke> That'd solve the issue.
[05:40] <troy_s> boel:  set a static
[05:41] <skippy81> then type in fglrx-control to run it, it should run the config panel where you can adjust the settings
[05:41] <Healot> yeah STATIC
[05:41] <emi> skippy81: should I install fglrx-control?
[05:41] <molinero> !guadalinex
[05:41] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, molinero
[05:41] <Boelcke> troy_s, I can see in ubuntu where to set a static, but do I need to do something in the router's admin page?  When I tried it, I lost my Internet connection...
[05:41] <skippy81> emi, yeah install it
[05:41] <troy_s> boelcke:  you will need to set a static ip.  the gnome networking gui lets you do that.
[05:41] <emi> skippy81: wait 2 sec.
[05:41] <troy_s> boelcke:  you will need to make sure sure that you are on the subnet of your router
[05:41] <Healot> molinero: you need support on Spanish-version of Ubuntu eh?
[05:42] <molinero> Hi Healot
[05:42] <grndslm> Boelcke, well...there's an extremely good change that you could install OpenWRT on that router....anytime the computer is restarted the router will assign your ethernet's MAC address to a static local IP (I.E. - 192.168.1.16, no matter who gets on your router and in what order, that specific computer will always have the same ip
[05:42] <troy_s> boelcke:  meaning if your router is dealing out ips such as 192.168.1.41, you will need to match the first three numbers... 192.168.1.200 or something
[05:42] <emi> skippy81: done.. what now?
[05:43] <Boelcke> Yes, I hear you about the first 3 numbers.  But when I tried that, and rebooted the machine, it still didn't connect.  Had to switch back to DHCP to get in internet connection...
[05:43] <torpedo|dog> Is anybody here good with tar?
[05:43] <skippy81> try fglrx-control in a terminal
[05:43] <Healot> tar? "man tar" is a good start
[05:43] <skippy81> if it wont run use sudo before it emi
[05:43] <grndslm> Boelcke, the router automatically assigns ip addresses to anything behind it with dhcp
[05:44] <Healot> torpedo|dog: just ask the question
[05:44] <emi> skippy81: I don`t have fglrx-control ...
[05:44] <grndslm> Boelcke, i'd highly recommend you look at OpenWRT
[05:44] <emi> skippy81: whereis fglrx-control .. nothing
[05:44] <torpedo|dog> I'm trying to extract a specific directory from a tar file, and I need to do it on the command line.
[05:44] <haloe> hey does anyone know where to find some nice ubuntu stuff?
[05:44] <grndslm> it's a linux distro designed for routers....enables quite a few features that linksys doesn't even let you think of touching
[05:44] <skippy81> emi, but it did install ?
[05:44] <emi> skippy81: yes
[05:44] <haloe> need to know where to start :)
[05:45] <Boelcke> grndslm, I'll take a look.  Are you implying that the Linksys firmware won't let me set a static IP?  Hmmm...
[05:45] <Tliug> Dapper releases daay after?
[05:45] <Tliug> :D
[05:45] <skippy81> emi one sec
[05:45] <gax> tar -xvf tarfile.tar dir
[05:45] <Tliug> Xubuntu too?
[05:45] <bur[n] er> Boelcke:  teh linksys firmware will do address reservation as well as let you do a static
[05:45] <emi> skippy81: dpkg --list |grep fglrx-control
[05:45] <emi> .ii  fglrx-control                          8.25.18+2.6.15.11-1                  Control panel for the ATI graphics accelerat
[05:45] <allen> can you install Nvidia drivers for ubuntu?
[05:45] <jrattner1> Where can i find information on how to create my own partition for MUSIC/MEDIA?
[05:45] <grndslm> I do believe so....at least my WRT54G v2.0 didn't let me assign static IPs, or i couldn't find it for the life of me
[05:45] <Healot> xvf for Ubuntu, no need the "-"
[05:45] <runes> problem with mysql install on ubuntu
[05:46] <haloe> which games and drivers work for ubuntu?
[05:46] <haloe> how to burn ubuntu from iso to cd?
[05:46] <haloe> I have alot of questions
[05:46] <torpedo|dog> Healot: was that in response to me?
[05:46] <skippy81> emi what does "fglrxinfo" give you?
[05:46] <emi> haloe: with nero
[05:46] <haloe> I thought I should start here :)
[05:46] <Healot> torpedo|dog: yes
[05:46] <grndslm> haloe, cdrecord <filename>.iso
[05:46] <skippy81> http://pastebin.com/ emi
[05:46] <distanceisdeath> How come JAVA isn't installing, I'm following the WIKI UBUNTU guide.
[05:46] <Boelcke> Thanks, folks, I'm figuring out that static address now...  Excuse me if I suddenly disappear during the process!
[05:46] <grndslm> haloe, maybe add a sudo in front of that, i think i would just in case
[05:46] <torpedo|dog> Healot: not quite what I was looking for.
[05:46] <gax> old habit, hard to kick ;-)
[05:46] <haloe> ??? grndslm
[05:47] <emi> skippy81: w8
[05:47] <haloe> grndslm: you mean burn to iso?
[05:47] <grndslm> haloe, you are trying to burn the iso to the disc, correct?
[05:47] <varsendaggr> haloe,    what up?
[05:47] <Healot> torpedo|dog: i correspond to other person answer to your question
[05:47] <Healot> scroll back
[05:47] <emi> skippy81: http://pastebin.ca/59799
[05:47] <haloe> oh just trying to make livecd
[05:47] <torpedo|dog> Oh, sorry.
[05:47] <Healot> tar -xvf tarfile.tar dir > gax
[05:47] <maikol-tmp> bimberi, alright the sources.list is in the paste-bin
[05:48] <grndslm> haloe, if that's the case... open up a terminal and type in "sudo cdrecord <nameofiso>.iso
[05:48] <haloe> u buntu! lol
[05:48] <uscg_corey> whats the best way to get flash in ff15 on dapper?
[05:48] <maikol-tmp> bimberi, name used was maikol
[05:48] <runes> I followed the instrucitons on the ubuntu main site and when I try mysqladmin -u root password db_user_password I get the error Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost
[05:48] <haloe> how to do it with nero?
[05:48] <grndslm> uscg_corey...flashplayer-mozilla
[05:48] <bimberi> maikol-tmp: which pastebin?  please post a link
[05:48] <Healot> haloe: goto nero.com
[05:48] <saif> ok, i can't c anything, all the characters on the screen are messed up, just did an update now ( doing updates every few hours, this last update totally distroyed my display
[05:48] <grndslm> you might have to enable some certain repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:49] <haloe> I mean bootable cd would be the button but from an iso it would be something else right?
[05:49] <Healot> download the help files... haloe, 3rd party application, not supported here hehe
[05:49] <grndslm> haloe, why do it in nero when it's as simple as typing in 2 and a half words?
[05:49] <Healot> wtf is ZoomCities?
[05:49] <saif> oh, actually i believe i should be in ubuntu+1 sorry
[05:49] <haloe> terminal?
[05:49] <skippy81> ok emi, its not right, paste the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf to pastebin for me
[05:50] <haloe> wait lookign for it lol
[05:50] <haloe> right here and cant find it lol!
[05:50] <Healot> unaffiliated/zoomcities
[05:50] <grndslm> applications, then accesories, then terminal
[05:50] <skippy81> i think we will be best off using "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and trying to get everything working with the driver emi
[05:50] <maikol-tmp> bimberi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14848
[05:50] <emi> skippy81: ?
[05:51] <grndslm> haloe, i'd recommend that you place a shortcut on your panel because you should get used to using the terminal...
[05:51] <emi> skippy81: w8
[05:51] <haloe> hyper terminal?
[05:51] <haloe> what number to use?
[05:51] <haloe> ??? maybe Ill go with the application that burns iso lol!
[05:51] <grndslm> hyper terminal?
[05:51] <grndslm> what are you talkin' about?
[05:52] <Healot> yeah, Nero in Windows, and a lot more for Windows, haloe :)
[05:52] <grndslm> ahh....you're using windows
[05:52] <haloe> yes :)
[05:52] <emi> skippy81: http://pastebin.ca/59800
[05:52] <haloe> I am using windows xp and want to get ubuntu
[05:52] <emi> skippy81: i don`t know how to use that.. i just want 1600x1200 and 3d Acc...:p
[05:52] <haloe> :)
[05:52] <irina> hey guys, do you know how is udfutils configured ? I need to see a DVD RW  (formated in Windows with DirectCD) and I am not able to see anything in Linux
[05:52] <haloe> I just need to burn the iso now lol!
[05:53] <grndslm> well, i haven't used nero in a while...but cdburnerxp pro is a good free cd burner
[05:53] <cowbud> how do you boot to a CD in a mac powerbook?
[05:53] <skippy81> right ok, your running the vesa driver at the moent emi, its the worst one :)
[05:53] <skippy81> moment*
[05:53] <Healot> i got the burn-at-once program, small and cdrecord-based
[05:54] <skippy81> now open a terminal and type the following
[05:54] <irina> cowbud: maybe pressing C
[05:54] <bimberi> maikol-tmp: ok, you _only_ have universe enabled. You also need main (at least) and to open up the updates and security repos. Suggest uncommenting lines 5,6,10,11,33,34,36,37 in your sources.list
[05:54] <grndslm> cowbud, hold c at reboot
[05:54] <emi> skippy81: i did exaclty from the docs..
[05:54] <haloe> lol
[05:54] <emi> skippy81: should I change vesa with fglrx ? and reboot
[05:54] <maikol-tmp> bimberi, thanks will do
[05:54] <cowbud> Grndlvl: you rock thanks!
[05:54] <haloe> byebye windows hello linux
[05:54] <Healot> emi: only if you want to have 3D acceleration
[05:55] <Verithrax> Is there any way I can get my GTK apps to be themed without using gnome-session?
[05:55] <skippy81> emi 1) "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorgbackup.com"
[05:55] <emi> Healot: Yes I do..
[05:55] <irina> anyone expert in UDF ?
[05:55] <emi> skippy81: i have the backup..
[05:55] <skippy81> ok
[05:55] <Healot> emi: then choose the "fglrx" driver
[05:55] <Verithrax> IE, while using no desktop environment, just Fvwm2?
[05:55] <emi> Healot: ok.
[05:55] <skippy81> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:55] <emi> also on more thing
[05:56] <emi> how do I put 1600x1200 with 100Hertz ?
[05:56] <runes> is anyone here running apache2+php5+mysql?
[05:56] <skippy81> thats what we are going to do
[05:56] <skippy81> i will go through it with you
[05:56] <emi> skippy81: ok then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:56] <skippy81> have you got the menu up yet?
[05:56] <skippy81> yeah do that command
[05:56] <emi> skippy81: yes
[05:56] <skippy81> now throgh this process we pretty much stick to defaults
[05:57] <jrsims> how come my nvidia driver doesn't work after I reboot? It seems like it's reverting to the old settings.
[05:57] <skippy81> at the start you need to select the right driver, instead of vesa
[05:57] <emi> skippy81: attempt to audtodecect video.. Yes?
[05:57] <lampshade> is there a way to standardize all of the file open dialogs or is that just a dream.  Really sick of openoffice having a different file open than gaim which is different than firefox, etc etc
[05:57] <skippy81> emi no
[05:57] <skippy81> it doesnt matter too much really
[05:57] <emi> skippy81: should i press no?;p
[05:57] <skippy81> press no
[05:58] <runes> am I askign the wrong questions?
[05:58] <Boelcke> Back to doing a static IP behind my router:  If I do that, and forward some ports to the static IP, am I less secure? Should it mess up my other PCs on DHCP? I'm getting more confused, rather than less...
[05:58] <emi> skippy81: and select fglrx ?
[05:58] <drumline_> lampshade: the "open file" dialog?
[05:58] <skippy81> emi yes
[05:58] <Verithrax> Also, is there a way to use Nautilus just as a file manager without kicking off Gnome?
[05:58] <drumline_> Boelcke: yes.  less secure.
[05:58] <skippy81> now for the next options to do with keyboard and stuff, just keep pressing enter for the defaults
[05:58] <emi> skippy81: PCI:1:0:0 ?
[05:58] <skippy81> emi yes
[05:59] <Boelcke> BTW, my original question was, in network sharing a printer, I had to set ServerName = the IP address of the PC with the printer.  I don't know the format to just put the hostname in there...
[05:59] <emi> skippy81: Enter the amount of memory (in kB) to be used by your video card.
[05:59] <skippy81> leave it blank
[05:59] <emi> skippy81: my card is a radeon 9200 pro
[05:59] <emi> skippy81: ok
[05:59] <skippy81> framebuffer select no
[05:59] <emi> skippy81:  ok
[05:59] <emi> keybooard?
[06:00] <skippy81> just hit enter through the keyboard and language stuff
[06:00] <skippy81> keep hitting enter until you get to the monitor settings
[06:00] <jrsims> how do I get ubuntu to play mp3s?
[06:00] <skippy81> now do you know the specs of your monitor emi?
[06:00] <emi> skippy81: Please select the XKB rule set to use.
[06:00] <maikol-tmp> /quit
[06:00] <allen> you know its interesting they dont use the firefox.png in ubuntu..it looks like the mozilla.png
[06:00] <skippy81> just hit enter emi
[06:00] <BALLS_> INCONCIEVABLE!
[06:00] <skippy81> keep hitting enter until you see the word monitor :)
[06:01] <emi> skippy81: w8 ok
[06:01] <runes> is there a channel for advanced config of ubuntu?
[06:01] <Healot> jrsims: several ways
[06:01] <runes> ie servers etc
[06:01] <Healot> !mp3
[06:01] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:01] <nutterpc> it *really* is amazing how much of a difference making the hdparm changes for your system makes, especially on cd extraction
[06:01] <emi> skippy81: i got a meneu.. with dbe bitmap..etc
[06:01] <skippy81> ah ok
[06:01] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell jrsims about mp3
[06:01] <emi> skippy81: enter?
[06:01] <skippy81> right, is dri selected?
[06:01] <emi> skippy81: yes
[06:01] <apokryphos> ubotu: no mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:01] <ubotu> apokryphos: okay
[06:01] <skippy81> ok hit enter
[06:02] <emi> skippy81:  Write default Files section to configuration file?
[06:02] <jrsims> Healot: thanks
[06:02] <skippy81> yes emi
[06:02] <emi> skippy81:  Attempt monitor autodetection?  ? NO i thing
[06:02] <emi> think
[06:02] <skippy81> right, do you know the specs of your monitor emi?
[06:02] <drumline_> Anyone try out Xen with Dapper?
[06:03] <RancidLM> hey all i removed my nvidia-glx and compiled my own nvidia drivers, but every time i reboot i have to re-install them because Xdisplay isn't able to start.. any suggestions on how to get my nvidia drivers to work at boot?
[06:03] <emi> skippy81: its a 21 monitor.. Vision Master pro 510 IIYAMA\
[06:03] <skippy81> ok hit no
[06:03] <emi> skippy81: in windows I stay with 1600x1200  100 Hertz
[06:03] <Verithrax> Does composite work with Dapper?
[06:03] <skippy81> ok good
[06:03] <skippy81> whats the next screen your on?
[06:04] <skippy81> soon it will ask you what resolutions you want i think
[06:04] <emi> skippy81: to select my resolution.
[06:04] <emi> skippy81:  Select the video modes you would like the X server to use.
[06:04] <skippy81> ok now be careful here, you need to use the arrow keys and the space bar to tick and untick boxes DONT press enter :)
[06:04] <emi> skippy81: done
[06:05] <skippy81> now i suggest you scroll down and use enter to untick all the low resolutions, just leave the one you want ticked
[06:05] <eggzeck> Verithrax, yes
[06:05] <emi> skippy81: now the menu with simple medium ..advanced
[06:05] <Verithrax> Cool. Out of the box?
[06:05] <alth> Greetings everyone.
[06:05] <skippy81> ok, i think you want medium
[06:05] <skippy81> it should let you choose 1600x1200 @ 100 as an option from the medium menu emi
[06:06] <Healot> yeah you can select screen resolution/monitor manually
[06:06] <runes> skippy81 are you familiar with mysql
[06:06] <emi> skippy81: its only 1600x1200 @ 85 .. its ok..
[06:06] <BALLS_> can mysql work with php
[06:06] <skippy81> ok cool
[06:06] <skippy81> yes mysql is traditionally used with php
[06:06] <runes> BALLS_ yes
[06:06] <BALLS_> cool
[06:06] <emi> skippy81:  Write monitor sync ranges to configuration file?
[06:06] <skippy81> infact php is useless without mysql
[06:06] <BALLS_> i wonder if it works with Ada too?
[06:06] <skippy81> yes emi
[06:07] <runes> BALLS_ that is what I am working on right now
[06:07] <emi> skippy81: donne
[06:07] <kspath> skippy81: postgresql?
[06:07] <BALLS_> Does PHP have an online manual?
[06:07] <emi> skippy81: reboot?
[06:07] <BALLS_> why can't they have a php manual on the internet
[06:07] <bintrue> google?
[06:07] <skippy81> yes it can work with postgre
[06:07] <kspath> BALLS_: Did you check?
[06:07] <skippy81> BALLS_ php has the best online manual ever
[06:07] <emi> skippy81: reboot..:P brb 2 sec
[06:07] <runes> BALLS_ if you install the php5 apache 2 and mysql
[06:07] <bintrue> Anyone have experience with Dual Booting Linux and Windows and keeping the clocks accurate?
[06:07] <skippy81> emi, ok reboot
[06:07] <runes> the only problem you may have is setting the default password for mysql
[06:07] <torpedo|dog> BALLS_: go to http://php.net/function_name
[06:07] <Madpilot> BALLS_, could you take the PHP chat to ##php or somewhere, please/
[06:07] <Madpilot> ?
[06:08] <BALLS_> Ok
[06:08] <cam> i'm using ubuntu 5.1 latest stable build ... is it normal that the kernel does not handle HT P4 processor per default ?
[06:08] <allen> night all...thanks again
[06:08] <BALLS_> I'm in ##php though
[06:08] <skippy81> your in ubuntu main BALLS_ :)
[06:09] <BALLS_> Yessir
[06:09] <kapputu> how do I install mplayer?
[06:09] <skippy81> kapputu it should be installed by default
[06:09] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell kapputu about mplayer
[06:09] <unix_infidel> ubotu, mplayer?
[06:09] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:10] <bimberi> bintrue: Try setting "UTC=no" in /etc/default/rcS
[06:10] <coder_> MPlayer > *
[06:10] <bintrue> beautiful, thanks bimberi
[06:10] <bimberi> bintrue: not yet, make sure it works first :)
[06:10] <skippy81> your back emi
[06:10] <emi> skippy81: i think i have some problemes.. w8 to paste them
[06:11] <kapputu> skippy81, it's not installed by default
[06:11] <bintrue> bimberi: testing, I'll let ya know
[06:11] <Managu> kapputu: /nick Managu_Away
[06:11] <kapputu> why doesn't firefox allow me to browse my network drives when I want to upload a file?
[06:11] <Managu> whoops
[06:11] <emi> skippy81: http://pastebin.ca/59804
[06:12] <skippy81> lol im suprised it made it into gnome
[06:12] <skippy81> ok something has gone wrong with the installation of your drivers
[06:12] <skippy81> right open a terminal
[06:12] <emi> skippy81: dont know.. but is here.. 1600 works fine
[06:13] <skippy81> oh does it work?
[06:13] <maikol> how do i start the xubuntu desktop once its installed
[06:14] <skippy81> emi move some windows around, it should 'feel' faster than with the vesa driver
[06:14] <skippy81> also open a terminal and type "glxgears"
[06:14] <coder_> Anyone used Linux From Scratch?
[06:15] <Healot> maikol: if you installed GNOME/KDE previously, just logon as usual, then on the gdm/kdm login screen, select Xfce desktop
[06:15] <bintrue> bimberi: Worked perfectly. Thanks
[06:15] <Healot> if it as to make default, choose make default if you want to do so
[06:15] <kapputu> bash is the default shell?
[06:15] <bimberi> bintrue: great :)
[06:15] <Healot> kapputu: YES
[06:15] <coder_> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/index.html - Anyone used it before?
[06:15] <bimberi> kapputu: yes
[06:15] <Bilford> I have a scripting question.  when I run a script from the terminal, it works, but when it's run from the cron job thing, it doesnt
[06:16] <kspath> coder_: no one, not even the ones that started that site.
[06:16] <maikol> Healot, where it says 'session'? or do i have to restart to see that listing
[06:16] <Bilford> it runs some of it
[06:16] <Madpilot> coder_, #ubuntu-offtopic for non-tech support stuff, please
[06:16] <coder_> Oki
[06:16] <_vnobien> hi all, how to install this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31128&forummode=2&forumpage=18&forumexplevel=all
[06:16] <Healot> maikol: yup, where you can select the desktop... "Session"
[06:16] <jrsims_> is it me, or does screen updating in gnome seem sluggish? Like I'll alt+tab to my browser, and there's just lots of flicker as the window is rendered.
[06:17] <Healot> maikol: if you install xubuntu-desktop while in GNOME/KDE, just logout and logon back
[06:17] <skippy81> jrsims_ what is your hardware, in particular ram and gfx card
[06:17] <Healot> maikol: you may want to restart X by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[06:17] <jrsims_> 2.4 GHz intel, 256 mb ram, nvidia geforce 4 ti video board
[06:17] <AngryElf> so what happens to us Dapper Beta 2 people on 6-1?  Can i just run the update manager and be done with it?
[06:17] <Madpilot> AngryElf, yes
[06:18] <jrsims_> I have low ram
[06:18] <Ademan_> what sound daemon does flashplayer-nonfree use?
[06:18] <maikol> Healot, ok thanks, will try
[06:18] <Healot> 256MB is more than enough for ubuntu
[06:18] <DShepherd> _vnobien: its a mockup
[06:18] <emi> skippy81: it works.. but don`t know if I have 3d acc
[06:18] <Healot> Ademan_: the default
[06:18] <Ademan_> hrm, then i dont know why its not playing sound...
[06:18] <skippy81> emi, what are glxgears doing?
[06:19] <skippy81> are they running smooth
[06:19] <Healot> emi can't even start X?
[06:19] <AngryElf> ok, also, has anyone else had a problem compiling something that uses libfreetype2-dev in Beta 2??  I noticed the library itself had a linking problem
[06:20] <Ademan_> why dont you have him just do glxinfo?
[06:20] <SurfnKid> mosquito in my room!!!
[06:20] <Healot> glxgears >> shows the 3D acceleration in action
[06:20] <SurfnKid> have to kill it before it kills me!
[06:21] <Healot> the worst is Aedes Egypti
[06:21] <skippy81> Ademan_:  this is what he got from glxinfo http://pastebin.ca/59804
[06:21] <emi> skippy81: should I install a new kernel and after that update the  drivers?
[06:21] <emi> skippy81: kinda faster..
[06:21] <emi> skippy81: but if i moved them real quick.. its ramains a lot of windows...;p
[06:22] <Ademan_> his driver is pretty obviously borked
[06:22] <Ademan_> those look like backends to openGL calls to me
[06:22] <emi> grr Laggg
[06:22] <emi> Healot: X its running fine
[06:22] <emi> skippy81: glxgears same..
[06:22] <Healot> you don't have problem with 3D acceleration then
[06:22] <maikol-tmp> yep, xubuntu run much better on this 64mb RAM comp, thanks for the help
[06:22] <Healot> emi: tried supertux/planet-penguin racer?
[06:23] <maikol-tmp> ZoomCities, please dont spam
[06:23] <emi> Healot: nope
[06:23] <emi> Healot: should I try? to check if i Have 3d?
[06:23] <emi> Healot: i was thining to put 2.6.15.k7 and rebuild the drivers..
[06:23] <Healot> if you can run glxgears properly
[06:24] <cyorxamp> How can I burn an ISO?
[06:24] <Healot> hehe with fire, kidding
[06:24] <emi> Healot: w8
[06:24] <emi> Healot: http://pastebin.ca/59808
[06:24] <skippy81> emi try fglrxconfig or fglrx-config again, im sure they muist work
[06:24] <emi> skippy81: http://pastebin.ca/59808
[06:25] <emi> skippy81: nope..
[06:25] <emi> skippy81: onlye fgl_glxgears  fglrxinfo     fglrx_xgamma
[06:25] <cyorxamp> Does anyone know how I can burn an ISO?
[06:25] <cyorxamp> I am running Xubuntu 5.10
[06:25] <Healot> emi: compiled from the official Ati driver eh
[06:26] <alth> I think Dapper broke my MP3 support.
[06:26] <alth> !mp3
[06:26] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:26] <Healot> cyorxamp: the worst you can do is burn it with "cdrecord"
[06:26] <alth> :\
[06:26] <cyorxamp> Healot, I tried that but it would'nt work for me
[06:26] <majd> !mp3
[06:26] <majd> !mp3
[06:26] <emi> Healot: I used the docs.. when installing ati drivers
[06:26] <cyorxamp> Healot, So I installed X and want to find a GUI recorder
[06:26] <majd> !mp3
[06:26] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:26] <Healot> cyorxamp: or you can use xcdroast...
[06:27] <Healot> one of my favorite X application... (without GNOME/KDE needed)
[06:27] <skippy81> well emi, we have two choices
[06:27] <skippy81> we can either remove and reinstall the drivers
[06:27] <emi> skippy81: ?
[06:28] <emi> skippy81: not better to install a new kernel + reinstall drivers?
[06:28] <skippy81> or we can leave it as it is, i personally think that as long as x is booting and you have accel you can ignore the error messages
[06:28] <kapputu> Ubuntu has certainly become faster from the warty days
[06:28] <skippy81> emi what version of ubuntu are you currently running mate?#
[06:28] <Healot> kapputu: the loading time/installation?
[06:28] <emi> skippy81: 6.0.6 from distrowatch...:)
[06:29] <kapputu> Healot, not much difference in loading time
[06:29] <kapputu> but apps definitely load faster
[06:29] <emi> skippy81: ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso
[06:29] <kapputu> I'm not running a high end machine
[06:29] <skippy81> open a term and do "uname -r" pls emi
[06:29] <emi> skippy81: 2.6.15-23-386
[06:29] <skippy81> ok same kernel as me
[06:29] <emi> skippy81: i could update to 2.6.15-23-k7
[06:30] <emi> skippy81: cuz I have a amd PC
[06:30] <Healot> linux-restricted-module-2.6.15-23-k7 available, emi?
[06:30] <skippy81> im not sure, is k7 still i386 architecture?
[06:30] <emi> Healot: yes.
[06:31] <Healot> did you isntall it, emi?
[06:31] <skippy81> !ati
[06:31] <ubotu> I heard ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:31] <emi> Healot: in a few sec..
[06:31] <SurfnKid> whoa the broadcasting team of the mexican television channel is broadcasting live from Amsterdam
[06:31] <hpoc> only english here?
[06:31] <cyorxamp> I go a month without using linux and I can't remember where anything else
[06:31] <cyorxamp> Where the hell is that mount config file?
[06:31] <cyorxamp> fstab thats it
[06:32] <majd> Hey, is there a way to get an xfce-like panel in gnome?
[06:32] <cyorxamp> What a useful name to give to it
[06:32] <emi> Healot: its not a good ideea?
[06:32] <Healot> if that linux-restricted-module is available for tht kernel version, you dont have to recompile the module
[06:32] <keith> !help
[06:32] <hpoc> !help
[06:32] <l_r> ubuntu 6.06 -stable is out!!
[06:32] <torpedo|dog> w0000t!
[06:32] <charle97> it is?
[06:32] <skippy81> hmm emi try "sudo aticonfig --initial"
[06:32] <Healot> emi: install the prebuilt-module that match the kernel version is the best way to play with 3D acceleration
[06:32] <cyorxamp> l_r thats not for another day!
[06:32] <l_r> no, kidding :)
[06:33] <charle97> where?
[06:33] <l_r> ghgh
[06:33] <skippy81> and "sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv"
[06:33] <emi> Found fglrx primary device section
[06:33] <emi> Nothing to do, terminating.
[06:33] <cyorxamp> it is tommorrow right?
[06:33] <l_r> yes
[06:33] <cyorxamp> k, didn't know if theres 31 days in May
[06:33] <l_r> ops sorry
[06:34] <l_r> tomorrow is 31
[06:34] <torpedo|dog> 30 days has september, april, june, and november
[06:34] <charle97> torpedo!
[06:34] <skippy81> all the rest have 9
[06:34] <torpedo|dog> all the rest have 31 except for February which sucks anyway.
[06:35] <Madpilot> ZoomCities, you behaving yourself here?
[06:35] <emi> skippy81: brb bootiing the new kernel
[06:35] <Madpilot> web hosting
[06:35] <l_r> will kubuntu follow immediately?
[06:36] <chron> where is grub.conf?
[06:36] <Healot> there isn't any
[06:36] <bimberi> chron: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:36] <Healot> it's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:37] <chron> oh
[06:37] <majd> !flash
[06:37] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:37] <eric__> can someone tell me how to log out of an x session so i can install my nvidia drivers ???
[06:37] <disinterested_pe> im finding this senario pretty bizarre i can get one clear channel stream link but not another it says ive got all the plugins enabled in mozilla browser but it still wont work?
[06:38] <e_tweeze> Is there a default link-local address assigner for ubuntu, like zcip or howl?
[06:38] <Healot> eric__: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[06:38] <teslamike> lol
[06:39] <Healot> aish
[06:39] <teslamike> alright...  i'm having trouble installing the ati driver off their website.  i get a message saying that libfglrx_pp.so.1 is not found
[06:39] <teslamike> can anyone help out with this?  (i've located the so file, but don't know where ubuntu keeps these things)
[06:40] <deoryp> Hi, i was wondering if someone chould help me with java not running in firefox 1.5 in unbuntu
[06:40] <coder_> Did you install the plugin for it?
[06:41] <torpedo|dog> deoryp: you have to link the plugin file from your profile folder.
[06:41] <Madpilot> teslamike, why don't you use the ATI drivers from Ubuntu's repositories?
[06:41] <emi> skippy81: how do i put 1024 to the slash screen when he boots?
[06:41] <deoryp> torpedo|dog not just from the firefox/plugins/ folder?
[06:42] <teslamike> madpilot: slow video playback under amd/turion64
[06:42] <teslamike> Madpilot, that's the real problem lol...  if you know of a fix for that...  ;)
[06:42] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell teslamike about ati
[06:42] <emi> skippy81: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-k7 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash ...?what next;)
[06:42] <torpedo|dog> deoryp: copy the one from the global firefox folder to your own profile folder
[06:42] <Madpilot> teslamike, see the PM from the bot, it might help
[06:42] <torpedo|dog> it would be at ~/.mozilla-firefox/plugins, I think.
[06:43] <varsendaggr> hey how do i kill kxdocker
[06:43] <eric__> ok i just did ctrl-alt-backspace and it took me to a command prompt but when i logged in to it the regular desktop came back
[06:43] <teslamike> Madpilot, already using the fglrx driver
[06:44] <Thugy> hello, how come when i go to system tools or w/e and go to networking, i dont have an option to add a connection, because i dont have a router my modem is ppoe and i cant get a connection
[06:45] <Thugy> right now im windows but i cant add connection in networking, i can only do activate deactivate and delete
[06:45] <teslamike> Madpilot, sorry, brb (thx)
[06:45] <deoryp> torpedo|dog, i don;t have a plugins folder anywhere in my .mozilla/ dir
[06:45] <torpedo|dog> What is there?
[06:46] <Thugy> torpedo|dog can you help me please.
[06:46] <torpedo|dog> Thugy: Ask and we'll see :)
[06:46] <torpedo|dog> deoryp: so there's just a 'firefox' folder?
[06:47] <Thugy> i have asdl connection... ppoe modem
[06:47] <deoryp> torpedo|dog i have .mozilla/firefox/yzyykpx9.default and then there is a bunch of stuff, but no plugins folder
[06:47] <torpedo|dog> If so, just make a new folder called 'plugins' and add it there and see if restarting Firefox and going to the site with Java works.
[06:47] <Thugy> i have asdl connection... ppoe modem and i cant add ppoe active connection because i dont have to option in networking to do so
[06:47] <Thugy> how do i go about that
[06:47] <torpedo|dog> deoryp: to clarify, it should be in .mozilla/plugins
[06:48] <torpedo|dog> Thugy: I'm not familiar with pppoe but I'm sure somebody here is.
[06:48] <difeta> anybody had any luck with banshee and the zen micro? I cannot seem get get banshee to notice the bugger
[06:48] <bimberi> !adsl
[06:48] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL PPPoE Connection? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[06:48] <Thugy> if anyone is around please help me with a asdl/ppoe connection
[06:48] <chron> how do you ``su'' into root?
[06:49] <chron> on ubuntu?
[06:49] <eric__> im trying to install nvidia drivers but when i run it it says im running an x server and i have to close it down before installing the drivers
[06:49] <torpedo|dog> Thugy: follow the link that ubotu just printed.
[06:49] <Healot> sudo su
[06:49] <bimberi> chron: sudo -i
[06:49] <Healot> enter your password, chron
[06:49] <torpedo|dog> chron: use sudo instead.
[06:49] <troy_s> sudo -s
[06:49] <chron> ok
[06:49] <chron> sudo instead
[06:49] <torpedo|dog> chron: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo if you want more info :)
[06:50] <drumline_> what if I don't wanna use sudo?!
[06:50] <Ademan_> uh, does linux not have std::map?
[06:50] <Ademan_> drumline: dont use ubuntu then :-p
[06:50] <bimberi> !nvidia
[06:50] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:51] <eric__> can anyone tell me how to close down the x server ?? i tried ctrl-alt-backspace but when i logged in at the prompt it just loaded my regular desktop agen
[06:52] <drumline_> Ademan: :P   razzberries for you.  It's possible to set a root password on Ubuntu; didn't you know?
[06:52] <disinterested_pe> how do i get my floppy drive to work?
[06:52] <drumline_> Ademan: btw...  don't get in the habit of sending people away...
[06:52] <emi> how do i install flash player?
[06:52] <Madpilot> !flash
[06:52] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:52] <Madpilot> emi, ^^^
[06:53] <emi> Madpilot: yes
[06:53] <bigezz> !nvidia
[06:53] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:53] <drumline_> Ademan: not a very popular or inviting thing to do..
[06:53] <cyorxamp> How I can I share a folder on linux for access by another PC using linux easily!?
[06:53] <bimberi> bigezz: log out, type ctrl-alt-f1 and log in in text mode, then type 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop' to shutdown X. 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start' will start X again if you need to
[06:53] <skippy81> emi soz was afk
[06:53] <drumline_> cyorxamp: check out the docs on nfs...
[06:53] <skippy81> emi i think vga=794 should do the trick
[06:54] <cyorxamp> drumline_, See, thats not easily
[06:54] <emi> skippy81: i have grub not lilo..
[06:54] <skippy81> that is for grub
[06:54] <deoryp> torpedo|dog> ok i tried that and it seems to not be working after restarting firefox
[06:54] <emi> skippy81: ok.
[06:54] <emi> skippy81: thanks
[06:54] <petrik> Has anyone had any luck playing DVD's?
[06:55] <skippy81> np :)
[06:55] <SurfnKid> Mexico vs Iran! they get the coolest country of all
[06:55] <torpedo|dog> deoryp: Well, you might have to ask somebody else, I'm kinda tired and don't want to do any damage ;)
[06:55] <deoryp> lol ok
[06:55] <cyorxamp> How I can I share a folder on linux for access by another PC using linux easily!?
[06:55] <drumline_> cyorxamp: seems like Konquerer has file sharing on the properties tab
[06:56] <cyorxamp> drumline_, not using konquerer tho
[06:56] <drumline_> cyorxamp: well...  try it.  :)
[06:56] <cyorxamp> Konquerer is shite
[06:56] <drumline_> cyorxamp: does Nautilus have file sharing built in?
[06:57] <cyorxamp> I'm not using nautilus either
[06:57] <Abo> how can I install the real player plugin for firefox
[06:58] <Shadow_mil> I had to reinstall xserver and I did and it works and all, but its missing Xsession, any suggestions?
[06:58] <drumline_> cyorxamp: um...   I really think you shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth.  Konquerer and possibly Nautilus have file sharing built-in.   Where do you think the functionality of creating shares belongs?   In the window manager?   No..  It belongs in the file manager or a control panel...   Use a file manager that does what you want or contribute code to your favorite file manager.
[06:58] <exterwin> hello
[06:58] <Eric> i have a sore back can someone fik it for me ?? :P
[06:59] <exterwin> .... is this the right place to look for luinx help
[06:59] <drumline_> exterwin: absolutely
[06:59] <exterwin> cool - can I ask you some questions
[06:59] <hpoc> how i can see the runing prozess?
[06:59] <drumline_> ask away
[06:59] <cyorxamp> drumline_, Da Dum SHchha!
[06:59] <Abo> hpoc, ps -auxwww
[07:00] <exterwin> first of all - can I switch between the Windows OS and the ubuntu Linux OS?
[07:00] <drumline_> cyorxamp: sure.  :)
[07:00] <drumline_> exterwin: yes.  You can dual boot your computer.
[07:00] <cyorxamp> drumline_, seriously - you need help
[07:00] <Abo> exterwin, what do you mean switch between?
[07:00] <Eric> does anyone here use GoPets ???
[07:00] <Shadow_mil> exterwin: you can setup a duel, boot to one of the other on boot up
[07:00] <Shadow_mil> or*
[07:00] <Abo> exterwin, you can have duel boot, and choose which OS to start
[07:01] <exterwin> does the duel boot take more profession skill to set up
[07:01] <Eric> is there a linux gaming channel ???
[07:01] <exterwin> I just got introduced to this OS a day agao from a friend- they reccommended this
[07:01] <dreamy> hi all
[07:01] <drumline_> cyorxamp: OK Mister Knows-who-drumline-is and Can-tell-that-drumline-needs-help.  Where did you get your Can-tell-if-somebody-needs-help training?
[07:01] <hpoc> i have installed "tor" & "privoxy" i start with root, but i cant use it. i want see is running this process
[07:01] <dreamy> i killed apt pakeges
[07:01] <Eric> exterwin dual booting is pretty simple but u need to install windows first
[07:01] <dreamy> how to recover it?
[07:01] <Shadow_mil> exterwin: Not really, if you know how to change your partition table
[07:01] <{V0rtexia}> wtf
[07:01] <Abo> exterwin, not really, you just run the ubuntu install and it will setup the dual boot
[07:01] <{V0rtexia}> I have no grub.conf
[07:01] <{V0rtexia}> in /boot/grub
[07:01] <{V0rtexia}> ?
[07:02] <exterwin> So it is automatically done for me
[07:02] <hpoc> menu.lst
[07:02] <hpoc> ups
[07:02] <Abo> exterwin, exactly
[07:02] <Eric> is there a gaming channel for linux on irc ??
[07:02] <maikol> is there a special way to mount an smbfs file system for ubuntu?
[07:02] <drumline_> exterwin: it's pretty automagic...     but, the basic thing to consider here is "Always have backups before going into uncharted territory with your computer"
[07:02] <KidVulcan> roight
[07:02] <Eric> !games
[07:02] <ubotu> hmm... games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[07:03] <KidVulcan> so
[07:03] <exterwin> backups ok...
[07:03] <KidVulcan> anyone else get vertical lines when running the live disc?
[07:03] <Shadow_mil> exterwin: you do need to know alittle about partition tables, but you can easly get though it on mans and stuff
[07:03] <Shadow_mil> exterwin: lots of manullys out there that will step you though it
[07:03] <Eric> if you have two drives then dual booting is easy as piss
[07:04] <KidVulcan> ..?
[07:04] <drumline_> exterwin: nifty little program is here: www.acronis.com called True Image 9...  50 bucks and it's a steal of a deal.
[07:04] <Apostle^> drumline_, lol
[07:04] <drumline_> exterwin: creates an image of your drive and can store it on a USB external drive.
[07:04] <dreamy> i killed accidentally apt package. how to recover it?
[07:04] <h3h_timo> does anyone have alot of experience with azureus?
[07:04] <Abo> drumline_, what's that program for?
[07:04] <cyorxamp> drumline_, Riiiiiight there
[07:04] <Shadow_mil> Eric: true, but if you have one hard drive its a bit more tricky
[07:04] <KidVulcan> azureus = evil
[07:04] <KidVulcan> www.bitcomet.com
[07:04] <Shadow_mil> though still fairly easy
[07:05] <jrattner1> If I create a seperate partition for my music to be on, what mounting options should i specify in /etc/fstab (its ext3)
[07:05] <h3h_timo> you can get bitcomet for linux?
[07:05] <hpoc> how i can install the newst firefox/xchat or other programs? aptitude ist not the newst firefox or other program
[07:05] <drumline_> Abo: does backups...   from within windows and on a boot disc...    It can spin off DVD backups of an image of your hard drive allowing for bare metal restore.
[07:05] <KidVulcan> could someone explain why when using the live disc, my screen looks like this ||||||||| <-
[07:05] <Apostle^> hpoc, compile the source or google for a .deb package
[07:05] <drumline_> cyorxamp: what's that?
[07:05] <Speed-Link|war> Is there a possibility to run asp scripts on ubuntu server?
[07:05] <cyorxamp> Computer says... No
[07:05] <drumline_> somebody please give cyorxamp the boot.
[07:06] <hpoc> iam a noob. i have installed ubuntu 10min ago
[07:06] <hpoc> is my first try on linx & my english is bad :p
[07:06] <Speed-Link|war> Is there a possibility to run asp scripts on ubuntu server?
[07:06] <cyorxamp> hpoc, Welcome!
[07:06] <Apostle^> Speed-Link|war, .asp is windows i believe
[07:06] <cyorxamp> To heLL!
[07:06] <h3h_timo> KidVulcan, i have always hated azureus too.. all it does is gives me prolbems.. but i didnt know u could get bitcomet for linux
[07:06] <Speed-Link|war> Apostle^, so there's litterly no chance to run asp on linux ?
[07:06] <Shadow_mil> Speed-Link|war: ASP sucks, though I am sure you can find away, and I think apache has a ASP module two, but ASP is more for ISS or what ever MS has
[07:06] <KidVulcan> hpoc, when you installed, did your screen look like spagetti standing on end?
[07:06] <Apostle^> Speed-Link|war, i'd use php if i were you works on windows+linux
[07:06] <phidaux> hey, anyone in the mood to help a noob with an easyubuntu install?
[07:06] <hpoc> what?
[07:06] <KidVulcan> i wouldn't know if you can get bitcomet for linux because i haven't been able to get it to work
[07:06] <Apostle^> phidaux, sure
[07:07] <Speed-Link|war> yeah i know, but i haev a cup script on .asp so :(
[07:07] <exterwin> do you know if circuit city or others can install lunix for me??
[07:07] <maikol> help mountint smbfs
[07:07] <KidVulcan> my screen looks like this after the startup sound -> ||||||||||||
[07:07] <Apostle^> !samba
[07:07] <ubotu> [samba]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[07:07] <Shadow_mil> Yes PHP runs laps over ASP
[07:07] <h3h_timo> KidVulcan, what do you use for a bittorrent client then?
[07:07] <Apostle^> ASP is garbage
[07:07] <Abo> anyone knows how to install the realplayer plugin into firefox? I installed realplayer and it's working fine, but not into firefox
[07:07] <KidVulcan> bitcoment
[07:07] <KidVulcan> read..
[07:07] <KidVulcan> my screen looks like this after the startup sound -> ||||||||||||
[07:07] <Apostle^> h3h_timo, you could use shadow's bittorrent client
[07:07] <jrattner1> If I create a seperate partition for my music to be on, what mounting options should i specify in /etc/fstab (its ext3)
[07:07] <hpoc> nope my screen looks good :p
[07:08] <h3h_timo> Apostle^, does it produce pretty good speeds?
[07:08] <Madpilot> KidVulcan, what hardware?
[07:08] <KidVulcan> AMD
[07:08] <drumline_> exterwin: I wouldn't trust any of them...   Just make sure you have an image of your Windows operating system with an imaging program like True Image and hack away at it...   If you screw it up, you can put the boot disc(using True Image) in and restore your hard drive.
[07:08] <hpoc> so i musst search how i can compile an source an other:p
[07:08] <Apostle^> h3h_timo, yes
[07:08] <KidVulcan> EVGA 6800GT
[07:08] <h3h_timo> how do i install that?
[07:08] <Apostle^> jrattner1, like this, with the mnt point + /dev properly edited /dev/hdd1       /media/storage              ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[07:08] <{V0rtexia}> ok, I compiled kernel from source
[07:08] <{V0rtexia}> but I can't find the new initrd.img
[07:08] <{V0rtexia}> ?
[07:09] <Apostle^> {V0rtexia}, should be in the / dir
[07:09] <{V0rtexia}> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root root    29 2006-05-02 15:00 initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-10-386
[07:09] <{V0rtexia}> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root root    28 2006-05-03 01:46 initrd.img.old -> boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-386
[07:09] <teslamike> Madp, i'm back...
[07:09] <{V0rtexia}> that's the old kernel
[07:09] <nutterpc> anyone in here got a prob I can help out whit?
[07:09] <{V0rtexia}> new kernel is 2.6.16.18
[07:09] <teslamike> Madpilot it didn't fix the problem...  heh, i checked the xorg config and restarted x
[07:09] <jrattner1> Apostle^, wont that make it readonly
[07:09] <teslamike> Madpilot dvd playback is still unwatchably slow
[07:10] <Apostle^> jrattner1, no
[07:10] <{V0rtexia}> Apostle^ ?
[07:10] <tritium> teslamike: you enabled DMA?
[07:10] <Madpilot> teslamike, have you enabled DMA?
[07:10] <{V0rtexia}> it's pointing to the old kernel
[07:10] <nutterpc> :P
[07:10] <teslamike> tritium dma is on
[07:10] <Apostle^> {V0rtexia}, i am not an expert on kernel compilation sorry
[07:10] <drumline_> nutterpc: tried out Xen?
[07:10] <teslamike> tritium in hdparm, yes?
[07:10] <nutterpc> drumline_: not really dude
[07:10] <teslamike> Madpilot yes, in the hdparm file
[07:10] <bimberi> jrattner1: "defaults" should be fine
[07:10] <h3h_timo> Apostle^, how do you install the shadow bittorrent client?
[07:10] <nutterpc> drumline_: just feel in the assisty type mood atm, that's all :)
[07:10] <tritium> teslamike: okak, that's usually the culprit
[07:11] <Madpilot> teslamike, hmm, if you've got DMA and good graphics drivers, I'm not sure what else to suggest... sorry.
[07:11] <drumline_> nutterpc: you can make your PC run very slow by firing up a 4 VM's... That'll give you something to work on.  :)
[07:11] <Apostle^> h3h_timo, it's installed by default i believe
[07:11] <nutterpc> teslamike: if you set your hdparm file up correctly, everything will run smooth
[07:11] <h3h_timo> ohhh.. its bittornado
[07:11] <h3h_timo> i didnt know that.. i can never get torrents to connect with it
[07:11] <nutterpc> drumline_: shouldn't be a problem on a Dual Core Opteron :)
[07:11] <bimberi> jrattner1: oops, i missed Apostle^'s answer (which looks better)
[07:11] <teslamike> nutterpc i have set hdparm...  i can paste up the file contents if you like...
[07:11] <drumline_> nutterpc: hell yeah buddy...  :)
[07:11] <Apostle^> nutterpc, i get in that mood, then somone pisses me off quick then i stop helping
[07:12] <chron> i'm trying to dual boot, it said it can't boot because it's FAT
[07:12] <nutterpc> lol Apostle^
[07:12] <chron> windows xp and ubuntu
[07:12] <drumline_> nutterpc: I'll be joining you in a few days with one of the new AM2's
[07:12] <nutterpc> drumline_: I have a Dual Core 165 Opty ;)
[07:12] <nutterpc> clocked @ 2.5Ghz
[07:12] <Apostle^> nutterpc, nice
[07:12] <drumline_> nutterpc: nice...  I'll be firing up a X2 4000+ come Thursday.
[07:12] <pastyhermit> What application should I use for burning CDs
[07:12] <pastyhermit> Im running xubuntu
[07:12] <teslamike> hmm, anyone know where i can go to find more information then?
[07:12] <jeff_> my cursor keeps randomly turning BLACK ????????
[07:12] <KidVulcan> Madpilot: check pm's
[07:12] <nutterpc> pastyhermit: try k3b
[07:13] <{V0rtexia}> fwp@Linsux:/boot$ mkinitrd
[07:13] <{V0rtexia}> -bash: mkinitrd: command not found
[07:13] <drumline_> nutterpc: you should fire up some VM's :)
[07:13] <{V0rtexia}> ?
[07:13] <pastyhermit> k does it require me to install the whole of KDE?
[07:13] <{V0rtexia}> no initrd on ubuntu ?
[07:13] <Shadow_mil> I need some help, I am missing Xsession
[07:13] <nutterpc> drumline_: or games, that'd do the job :P
[07:13] <Apostle^> teslamike, man hdparm
[07:13] <pastyhermit> k3b is HUGE
[07:13] <h3h_timo> does anyone know an alternative to frostwire taht will run faster on my computer??
[07:13] <pastyhermit> 121MB
[07:13] <Apostle^> pastyhermit, no just some libraries
[07:13] <drumline_> nutterpc: you could run Windows in its proper place: as a child to Linux...
[07:13] <nutterpc> teslamike: pm me and I'll see what I can do to help ya
[07:13] <Madpilot> KidVulcan, you have to be registered to send PMs on freenode. what's up?
[07:13] <Apostle^> pastyhermit, just sudo apt-get install k3b
[07:13] <pastyhermit> It wants me to install 121MB of stuff
[07:13] <{V0rtexia}> no initrd on ubuntu ?
[07:14] <drumline_> rc.d?
[07:14] <nutterpc> drumline_: there's a reason I came to Ubuntu, to get away from windows ;)
[07:14] <Apostle^> pastyhermit, yea, that sounds right alot of libs..
[07:14] <pastyhermit> Apostle^: and it will ask me to install 121MB of stuff
[07:14] <drumline_> nutterpc: I wish...  I gotta support it..
[07:14] <crimsun> {V0rtexia}: for warty, hoary, and breezy, yes, initrd is used.
[07:14] <Abo> anyone knows a plugin to play videos in firefox
[07:14] <pastyhermit> wholly overkill
[07:14] <nutterpc> drumline_: so do I, so I feel your pain dude
[07:14] <pastyhermit> I just want to burn a CD and then nix this install
[07:14] <DarkTower> Abo: check out the Ubuntu starter guide
[07:14] <Apostle^> pastyhermit, then use gnome baker
[07:14] <nutterpc> I have to support Windows, Linux & BSD's
[07:14] <drumline_> nutterpc: however, with the newer processor, I'll be able to make Linux the base...   which is cool.
[07:14] <crimsun> {V0rtexia}: for dapper, initramfs is used instead (despite the filename retaining initrd nomenclature)
[07:14] <Madpilot> pastyhermit, it's a KDE app, it needs all the KDE libs
[07:14] <Apostle^> pastyhermit, sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[07:14] <jeff_> help - anyone's mouse randomly changing color (black) ?
[07:15] <Abo> DarkTower, where can I find that?
[07:15] <Madpilot> pastyhermit, but if you just want to burn an ISO or data, use Nautilus
[07:15] <pastyhermit> ther eis no such
[07:15] <pastyhermit> ISO
[07:15] <pastyhermit> nautilus will make me install gnome
[07:15] <teslamike> nutterpc sorry, how do i do that?
[07:15] <DarkTower> Abo: Google "Ubuntu Starter Guide", read through for heaps of useful tips, including that one
[07:15] <teslamike> nutterpc can't remember my bitchx...
[07:15] <pastyhermit> although its not as bloated as ... KDE :D
[07:16] <pastyhermit> I just want something simple
[07:16] <pastyhermit> really really simple
[07:16] <DarkTower> Anybody here use gringotts for password management?
[07:16] <Madpilot> pastyhermit, which DE/WM are you running, then?
[07:16] <pastyhermit> XFCE
[07:16] <Surfnmate> whoa this storm was massive
[07:16] <pastyhermit> xubuntu
[07:16] <nutterpc> teslamike: right click on my name and select the last option in the drop down menu, if you use XChat
[07:16] <teslamike> nutterpc gah, brb then
[07:16] <drumline_> pasty: how is xubuntu?   easy to use?
[07:16] <pastyhermit> yes
[07:16] <drumline_> faster than KDE and Gnome?
[07:17] <drumline_> what's the claim to fame for that X window manager?
[07:17] <Quintok> yes
[07:17] <Madpilot> pastyhermit, ah. There must be some burning app in Xubuntu?
[07:17] <pastyhermit> except for dealing with XFCE its a bit combersome to create icons in the bar but ather than that its fast
[07:17] <pastyhermit> yes, WAY WAY WAY faster than KDE
[07:17] <KidVulcan> pilot, check pm's
[07:17] <pastyhermit> and a bit faster than gnome
[07:17] <drumline_> pasty: you on dvorak?
[07:17] <KidVulcan> i'll brb..
[07:17] <pastyhermit> dvorak? the keyboard?
[07:17] <drumline_> yeah
[07:17] <nutterpc> and also, I have one thing for those running on 512Mb RAM, ubuntu flies after its been skinned back a bit :)
[07:17] <pastyhermit> nope
[07:18] <drumline_> pasty: ah...   saw a type-o that is extremely uncommon but is easily done on a dvorak keymap :)
[07:18] <pastyhermit> Madpilot: I cant find one
[07:18] <jeff_> drumline_ what is "on Dvorak" ?
[07:18] <dreamy> i luse apt package, how to recover it????
[07:18] <Quintok> jeff different keyboard layout
[07:18] <dreamy> please help
[07:18] <jeff_> thanks
[07:18] <drumline_> jeff: Dvorak is a keymap that was designed to replace the qwerty one you type on now.
[07:19] <dreamy> i cant find it on install cd
[07:19] <drumline_> Jeff: homerow = A O E U I D H T N S -
[07:19] <jeff_> grumpy geeks ? :)
[07:19] <dreamy> i guess need use dpkg
[07:19] <Quintok> drumline_ wasn't it the other way around? typists were jamming the keys so they went to qwerty to slow them down
[07:19] <nutterpc> OUCH........never let your mobile phone drop on your foot, it can hurt
[07:19] <nutterpc> lol
[07:19] <dreamy> i dont want setup again
[07:19] <Apostle^> nutterpc, lol if you've got one from the 80's
[07:20] <jeff_> yes, that's true - typist too fast and they invented QWERTY to slow them down....
[07:20] <nutterpc> Apostle^: or if it drops square on your big toe :/
[07:20] <Apostle^> :-'(
[07:20] <nutterpc> yo teslamike, u ready dude?
[07:20] <h3h_timo> how do you refresh the gnome panel?
[07:21] <HeLpSomeBoDy> i have installed ubuntu 5.10 with many settings
[07:21] <jeff_> help - anyone know how to permently change the HOSTNAME ?  when I change it, and reboot, it reverts
[07:21] <RadiantFire> Quintok: yes, qwerty places keys in a position such that the keys often used consequtively are farthest away
[07:21] <bimberi> h3h_timo: 'killall gnome-panel' in a terminal
[07:21] <Apostle^> jeff_, edit both /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[07:21] <HeLpSomeBoDy> i something did with packages, and luse apt
[07:21] <Apostle^> jeff_, don't use spaces in it or make it real long either...
[07:21] <jeff_> Apostle - brilliant thanks...
[07:22] <RadiantFire> it allows fast typists to no jam mechanical keyboards when they levers are close together and both strike at a close interval
[07:22] <{V0rtexia}> ok
[07:22] <{V0rtexia}> mkinitrd -o initrd.img-2.6.16.18 2.6.16.18
[07:22] <{V0rtexia}> in /boot
[07:22] <{V0rtexia}> does nothing
[07:22] <{V0rtexia}> does not create it
[07:22] <h3h_timo> Apostle^, how do you run the bittornado client?
[07:22] <HeLpSomeBoDy> Apostle^?
[07:22] <Apostle^> HeLpSomeBoDy, ?
[07:22] <HeLpSomeBoDy>  i have installed ubuntu 5.10 with many settings
[07:22] <Apostle^> h3h_timo, click on it
[07:22] <h3h_timo> lol it isnt anywhere
[07:23] <Apostle^> HeLpSomeBoDy, yea, so have i what is your point
[07:23] <HeLpSomeBoDy>  i something did with packages, and luse apt
[07:23] <HeLpSomeBoDy> how to recover it
[07:23] <HeLpSomeBoDy> ?
[07:23] <Apostle^> h3h_timo, /usr/bin
[07:23] <Apostle^> HeLpSomeBoDy, what exactly is the problem
[07:23] <h3h_timo> im gonna reinstall it and then look
[07:23] <HeLpSomeBoDy> apt is not exist
[07:23] <Apostle^> HeLpSomeBoDy, huh.........
[07:23] <drumline_> Quintok: That was the result, but I think the guy's intent was to lower the number of jams by putting frequently paired letters next to each other on the layout so that the hammers would have more time to swing out of the way...
[07:23] <HeLpSomeBoDy> i have install cd, but cant find apt
[07:24] <nutterpc> Apostle^: Coffee, its the one juice amongst many keeping geeks awake during many a tech night =)
[07:24] <T`> guys.. the synaptics driver in flight 7 is really broken
[07:24] <jrsims> is there a way to make gnome do drop-shadows?
[07:24] <Apostle^> nutterpc, i don't drink coffee, but i'm about to get a soda
[07:24] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: try aptitude
[07:24] <drumline_> aptitude...  that's the best manager in the world.
[07:24] <nutterpc> Apostle^: Pepsi Max is also another good one
[07:24] <T`> it goes into these weird states and if i tap it instead does a middle button or a stuck left button, etc.
[07:24] <drumline_> Soda will rot your teeth.
[07:24] <HeLpSomeBoDy> ok thx
[07:24] <T`> anynoe have luck in getting it to work well on a laptop?
[07:25] <Apostle^> nutterpc, max, is that the 1 calorie stuff
[07:25] <Apostle^> nutterpc, i bet it tastes awful
[07:25] <nutterpc> Apostle^: its the stuff i consume lots os
[07:25] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: apt, aptitude and synaptic are all frontends for dpkg. so if all fails.. resort to dpkg
[07:25] <nutterpc> of*
[07:25] <Madpilot> T`, have you upgraded past flight7?
[07:25] <Apostle^> nutterpc, i want to try the new dr.pepper rasbery
[07:25] <T`> Madpilot, there is somethign past flight7??
[07:26] <Quintok> T` yes, RC1
[07:26] <Madpilot> T`, yes. Latest is RC1
[07:26] <Quintok> although, if you wait 2 days (well 2 days from where I am) it'll be released.
[07:26] <Madpilot> T`, you running the LiveCD or installed version?
[07:26] <DarkTower> on gnome-look.org you can download extra fonts in tarballs. How would I ninstall these for use on Ubuntu, for system and app use, eg OOo?
[07:27] <T`> Madpilot,  installed
[07:27] <KidVulcan> damn
[07:27] <Madpilot> DarkTower, easiest is in ~/.fonts
[07:27] <thugy> how do i install tor? i did sudo apt-get tor and i get this
[07:27] <thugy> What the Fuck?
[07:27] <thugy> woops
[07:27] <KidVulcan> pilot, check pm's pleeeeeeeease?
[07:27] <T`> Madpilot, i'm doing an apt-get update/dist-upgrade
[07:27] <Madpilot> KidVulcan, you need to register with freenode before you can send PMs
[07:27] <seb_> does any body know if it is possible to run UML on a powerpc
[07:27] <DarkTower> Madpilot: thanks, so I just place them in that folder? sounds easy
[07:27] <rob138> is there a way i can change the V ram of my laptop from ubuntu? my bios doesn't allow it
[07:27] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell KidVulcan about register
[07:27] <Madpilot> DarkTower, yes
[07:28] <DarkTower> Madpilot: Thanks for the help
[07:28] <T`> Madpilot, that should be enough right?
[07:28] <Madpilot> DarkTower, np. You know how to get hidden folders to show?
[07:28] <Madpilot> T`, should be, yes
[07:28] <Madpilot> T`, #ubuntu+1 for Dapper questions, until final release on the 1st
[07:28] <DarkTower> Madpilot: Yep that parts cool thx, familiar with console aswell to copy em in there
[07:29] <T`> Madpilot, only about 36 packages upgraded..
[07:29] <seb_> does anybody have experience with UML on a power pc
[07:29] <T`> Madpilot, not many changes.. hmm do i have to switch repos?
[07:29] <Apostle^> T`yes
[07:29] <hpoc> omg. help me i dont know how i can install the new firefox version (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5.0.3/linux-i686/de/firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz)
[07:29] <Quintok> T`, it might say your in flight7 (says I'm in LTS) but you'd be running RC1 package-wise (well post-RC1 actually)
[07:29] <Apostle^> T`change them to dapper
[07:29] <HeLpSomeBoDy> DShepherd. i guess same, but i cant  find packeges on install cd to recover apt.
[07:30] <T`> Apostle^, but i installed dapper
[07:30] <taan> hi, i have the DD 6.06 all updated and everything, now trying to install g++, synaptic fails looking for cdrom. why cann't download the g++ intall ?
[07:30] <seb_> can anybody help me on installing UML on a powerpc
[07:30] <T`> Apostle^, like i downloaded xubuntu dapper drake flight 7 cd
[07:30] <Apostle^> T`oh sorry, thought you were going from breezy to dapper
[07:30] <rob138> is there a way i can change the V ram of my laptop from ubuntu? my bios doesn't allow it
[07:30] <T`> nop.. ok i just checked sourcesllist
[07:30] <T`> it says dapper
[07:30] <T`> so lemme restart X.. hopefully synaptics work
[07:30] <Madpilot> T`, if you're already running Dapper, you should be fine
[07:30] <T`> properly
[07:30] <Quintok> T` if you upgraded your in RC1, even if it says elsewhere your not
[07:31] <seb_> has anybody installed UML on a PPC
[07:31] <Apostle^> T`what does cat /etc/issue say
[07:31] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: hmm..  not sure why? aptitude working ok?
[07:31] <rob138> what is the difference between the vmware workstation and vmware player?
[07:31] <petrik> What do you people use to play DVD's?
[07:31] <bur[n] er> workstation does a LOT more
[07:31] <thugy> how do i install tor? i tried sudo apt-get tor and it didnt work, can anyone guide me please.
[07:31] <Apostle^> thugy, sudo apt-cache search tor
[07:32] <jrsims> Anyone know why my nvidia drivers only work when I start gdm manually?
[07:32] <DShepherd> petrik: totem, mplayer.. vlc.. to name a few
[07:32] <selinium> thugy: sudo apt-get install tor
[07:32] <T`> nop
[07:32] <T`> no luck
[07:32] <T`> same old problem
[07:32] <T`> it gets locked into these weird states
[07:32] <blaze> Hello, my Gnome is loading a bit slow.. can sb help me?
[07:32] <thugy> yea selinium  i tried tha ttoo
[07:32] <T`> now i'm moving on the touchpad and it thinkgs the left button is held down
[07:32] <thugy> no work
[07:32] <Abo> DarkTower, I didn't find any video plugin for firefox!
[07:32] <HeLpSomeBoDy> DShepherd, just runing ubuntu on near computer
[07:32] <seb_> has anybody successfully installed UML on a powerPC
[07:32] <T`> so its selecting everything it can
[07:32] <T`> wrecking havoc on my VIM :(
[07:32] <T`> can't code/select,etc..
[07:33] <Madpilot> thugy, do you have Universe/Multiverse repos enabled? Tor is in Universe
[07:33] <disinterested_pe> im running ageis virus scanner it says ive got one how do i get rid of it?
[07:33] <taan> any idea why apt-get suddenly started requiring " Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Alpha i386 (20060329.1)" to install instead of downloading packages ?
[07:33] <disinterested_pe> aegis
[07:33] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: ok
[07:33] <seb_> does anybody know how to install UML on a powerpc
[07:33] <HeLpSomeBoDy> DShepherd aptitude erorr while loading shared librarys
[07:33] <petrik> DShepherd, They play ok for you? I just get errors or they just don't play.
[07:33] <Tonren> hey guys, where is the Gnome Accessibility control panel?
[07:34] <DShepherd> petrik: what kind of errors you getting?
[07:34] <jrsims> Anyone know why my nvidia drivers only work when I start gdm manually?
[07:34] <T`> how do i check if i'm on RC1?
[07:34] <DShepherd> you connected to the net (the ubuntu box) or u doing all this from the CD?
[07:34] <Madpilot> Tonren, System->Preferences->Assistive Technology Support? (not sure if that's what you're looking for...)
[07:35] <Tonren> Madpilot: ever since the last update my laptop's touchpad has been going wild.  i figure some weirdo options must have been turned on
[07:35] <DShepherd> T`: cat /etc/issue
[07:35] <T`> DShepherd, i have my own /etc/issue
[07:35] <selinium> thugy: it is in the universe repo, you need to have universe enabled
[07:35] <T`> DShepherd, overwrote it.. any oter way?
[07:35] <petrik> DShepherd, Totem gives me that it can not play DVD:// with the error Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading NAV packet..
[07:35] <selinium> !tell thugy about repos
[07:36] <Madpilot> T`, update & upgrade, see if apt-get/Synaptic pull down anything extra
[07:36] <DarkTower> Abo: Point Number 16. - How to install Mplyaer with Plug in for Firefox
[07:36] <HeLpSomeBoDy> DShepherd aptitude erorr while loading shared library libstdc++.so.6
[07:36] <petrik> DShepherd, VLC is not doing anything
[07:36] <Flannel> taan: did you "gksudo update-manager -d" by any chance?
[07:36] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: you apt-getting from the cd?
[07:36] <T`> Madpilot, nop :(
[07:36] <T`> Madpilot, nothing more
[07:36] <DShepherd> petrik: and Mplayer?
[07:36] <Madpilot> T`, then you're up to date, I guess
[07:37] <disinterested_pe> darktower system>administrator>synaptic mgr
[07:37] <HeLpSomeBoDy> yes
[07:37] <rob138> how do i install a guest OS in vmware?
[07:37] <DarkTower> disinterested_pe: ??
[07:37] <eobanb> rob138, does this look like a vmware support channel to you?
[07:37] <disinterested_pe> by the browser
[07:38] <rob138> no, but i am trying to do it in ubunutu
[07:38] <disinterested_pe> it says system
[07:38] <eobanb> rob138, as vmware is a commercial application i suggest you contact their support
[07:38] <T`> Madpilot, ok.. :/
[07:38] <petrik> DShepherd, Mplayer had a fit. Just set there spinning the disk and the HD light was going like crazy but nothing was happening. Ended up shutting down computer just to get control back
[07:38] <T`> rob138, whats so hard about vmware.. its like your PC
[07:38] <Apostle^> eobanb, no need to be a jerk
[07:38] <DarkTower> Abo: hows that?
[07:38] <Madpilot> eobanb, no need to be rude...
[07:38] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: the cd might be bad. you downloaded and burnt the cd yourself?
[07:39] <T`> rob138, even the interface is like that.. you should read their help.. its ridiculously simple to get started in their app.. dont tell me its hard to figure by clicking a few buttons
[07:39] <rob138> eobanb, i am just trying to figure out how to boot another OS within ubuntu, i couldn't find much on the wiki
[07:39] <eobanb> ...? everything i said is true
[07:39] <DShepherd> petrik: have you checked out the wiki about RestrictedFormats?
[07:40] <rob138> T', i guessi don't understand the idea behind it, i mean how do i go from my INSTALL cd to running a system inside ubuntu
[07:40] <petrik> DShepherd, Brushed over it. Will try to find it and have a better look
[07:40] <eobanb> well, rob138, assuming you bought vmware instead of pirating it, i think you would have better luck contacting vmware support
[07:40] <l_r> rob138, qemu
[07:40] <T`> rob138, intall vmware, mount your CD inside the VM, press start.. and it starts a "PC" inside the VM
[07:40] <T`> rob138, very simple
[07:40] <rob138> eobanb, pirating it? i got it off their website... maby i got the wrong thing
[07:40] <jeff_> Help Request - new 5.10 ubuntu user:  Should I upgrade to 6.x now or wait ?
[07:40] <rob138> l_r, what is qemu?
[07:41] <l_r> rob138, http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
[07:41] <T`> rob138, so in this case if you want XP inside a VM, you will put XP in your Cdrom bay, and tell vmware to see that cdrom device as a CD
[07:41] <eobanb> rob138, the freeware versions of vmware don't let you create your own virtual machines, just use pre-made images
[07:41] <h3h_timo> does anyone know how to forward ports with bittornado?
[07:41] <DShepherd> !RestrictedFormats
[07:41] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:41] <Madpilot> jeff_, your call. 6.06 goes final on June 1st anyway...
[07:41] <DShepherd> petrik: have a go
[07:41] <drumline_> Eobanb: you should check out VMWare's site.  They have made the Server free.
[07:41] <DShepherd> ubotu tell petrik about RestrictedFormats
[07:41] <jeff_> Madpilot: so, no harm in doing it now, I suppose, yeah?
[07:42] <DShepherd> ubotu tell petrik about FreeFormats
[07:42] <T`> grrr.. no one using synaptics touchpad here?
[07:42] <eobanb> drumline_, then why would anyone buy vmware
[07:42] <T`> this X driver is sooo broken :/
[07:42] <T`> eobanb, they make 90% of their $$ in servers
[07:42] <Apostle^> whoa, cool i get to go to chicago denver and salt lake city this summer, too bad denver+chicago is just waiting to get on another plane
[07:42] <T`> eobanb, ESX server
[07:42] <T`> eobanb, also support.. just like redhat
[07:42] <phermans> can i prevent some users from communicating with remote hosts?
[07:43] <Madpilot> jeff_, it's still in testing, but it's working fairly well, from what I've seen/heard
[07:43] <alan> hey all !
[07:43] <HeLpSomeBoDy> DShepherd. disk is ok. (you apt-getting from the cd?)sorry for bad eng. how to apt-getting from cd?
[07:44] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: you have the ubuntu cd right? is it added to your source lists?
[07:44] <maikol> !samba
[07:44] <ubotu> methinks samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[07:45] <jrattner1> Why can't I play music through Amarok from another mounted partition
[07:45] <HeLpSomeBoDy> DShepherd yes, its added
[07:45] <pastyhermit> How is the latest ubuntu?
[07:45] <eobanb> jrattner1, what sort of error message are you getting?
[07:45] <DShepherd> pastyhermit: good so far
[07:46] <pastyhermit> cool
[07:46] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: have you tried reinstalling apt from the cd right?
[07:46] <rob_> l_r, is gemu an alternative to vmware?
[07:46] <l_r> rob, yes
[07:47] <HeLpSomeBoDy> DShepherd, no. how to reinstall it? what command?
[07:47] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: sudo aptitude reinstall apt
[07:47] <kayde> i need help with installing gimpshop
[07:48] <kayde> i need help with installing gimpshop and/or gimp 2.2.11
[07:48] <eobanb> sudo apt-get install gimp ??
[07:49] <DShepherd> kayde: you using breezy?
[07:49] <kayde> eobanb, ok....
[07:49] <kayde> DShepherd, yup
[07:49] <HeLpSomeBoDy> DShepherd aptitude dont work.
[07:49] <DShepherd> dapper has gimp 2.2.11. can you afford to upgrade?
[07:49] <kayde> yes.
[07:50] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: what does it say? you get any message?
[07:50] <DShepherd> kayde: by all means.. upgrade :-)
[07:50] <HeLpSomeBoDy> DShepherd aptitude erorr while loading shared library libstdc++.so.6
[07:50] <eobanb> dapper's about as stable as it every will be now
[07:50] <kayde> DShepherd, yea, but that is like 4 weeeks away>posting
[07:51] <dizy> hi guys... im wondering what i need to install to be able to use "prebuilt" command
[07:51] <jeff_> can someone point me to the HOWTO for breezy -to- drake update info ?
[07:51] <kayde> so, how do install gimpshop?
[07:51] <Flannel> !tell jeff_ about upgrade
[07:51] <DShepherd> "sudo aptitude reintall libstdc++6"
[07:51] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: "sudo aptitude reintall libstdc++6" and then try install apt
[07:52] <kayde> ***so, how do I install gimpshop?
[07:53] <eobanb> isnt the primary difference between gimp and gimpshop just the order of some menu items?
[07:53] <h3h_timo> i have a question, i upgraded a few days ago.. but now i am back to breezy, because after upgrading i had a major problem with my ethernet not connecting.. whenever the final new version is release.. should i be okay... or should i just stay with what i have now
[07:53] <maikol> !tell maikol about upgrade
[07:54] <Flannel> eobanb: gimpshop is just gimp 'skinned', as far as I'm aware.
[07:54] <kayde> eobanb, nope, it also makes it easier to understand for photoshop users
[07:54] <kayde> yes
[07:54] <kayde> its a skin
[07:54] <citron> hi guys
[07:54] <citron> how are you?
[07:54] <kayde> hey
[07:54] <kayde> ...
[07:54] <eobanb> welcome, citron
[07:55] <dizy> im trying to follow a guide which tells me to use "prebuilt" .. but when i do it I get command not found... can someone tell me what I need to install to be able to use "prebuilt"
[07:55] <dizy> pretty please
[07:55] <dizy> :)
[07:55] <citron> 10x eobanb.
[07:55] <petrik> I like the way you get that bot to tell you things. Can you invoke that for yourself as well without spamming here
[07:55] <kayde> whats prebuilt?
[07:56] <Unenvarjo> dizy, tried apt-cache search prebuilt?
[07:56] <dizy> no.. didnt know i can do that
[07:56] <eobanb> petrik, yeah, just private message it
[07:56] <jeff_> Flannel:  Thanks mate - in progress....
[07:56] <kayde> so noone kn ows how to nstall gmp shop?
[07:57] <dizy> that didn't really find anything
[07:57] <DShepherd> kayde: not sure. have you tried the site?
[07:57] <HeLpSomeBoDy> DShepherd "sudo aptitude reintall libstdc++6" aptitude dont work
[07:57] <DShepherd> kayde: gimpshop.net.. if my memory serves me right
[07:57] <Vic_Astro> prebuilt shoud mean a binary package like deb/rpm
[07:57] <Unenvarjo> dizy, hm. What was the command it did not find now, according to the guide?
[07:58] <kayde> DShepherd, not much to help me on t...m a tOTAL and utter newb at lnux
[07:58] <Unenvarjo> sorry, I skipped breakfast today so my brain is still on slow mode :P
[07:58] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: hmm.. does the ubuntu box have direct connection to the net?
[07:58] <hpoc> omg. help me i dont know how i can install the new firefox version (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5.0.3/linux-i686/de/firefox-1.5.0.3.tar.gz)
[07:58] <Flannel> !tell hpoc about FF1.5
[07:59] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: is a dapper or a breezy install?
[07:59] <Vic_Astro> hpoc: search for Firefox on the wiki. There are instructions there
[07:59] <Flannel> hpoc: you can also just wait for dapper ;)
[07:59] <HeLpSomeBoDy> DShepherd breezy, network dont work
[07:59] <hpoc> i want install it now :p not wait hehe
[07:59] <kayde> aaa
[07:59] <dizy> Unenvarjo,  guide sais - in the package`s folder enter "prebuilt" ... when i do that I get  prebuilt: command not found
[07:59] <kayde> my ceyboard s werd
[07:59] <Flannel> dizy: where's the guide?
[08:00] <bimberi> !ff1.5
[08:00] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:00] <eobanb> hpoc, 1.5.0.3 runs fine on dapper..
[08:00] <dizy> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=8752456&forum_id=19620
[08:00] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: did apt ever work?
[08:00] <kayde> my letters on the rght sde are screwd
[08:00] <kayde> HELP
[08:00] <HeLpSomeBoDy> no, apt , aptitude - dont work
[08:00] <kayde> haf ny ceybard s stuffed
[08:00] <dizy> go down a bit to the seconnd msg
[08:00] <hpoc> i don't know. i only have ubunt
[08:00] <dizy> From: krzysiek <kxs@vp...>
[08:01] <eobanb> kayde, we can't help you with hardware problems
[08:01] <kayde> ts n0t alt locc or nythng
[08:01] <disinterested_pe> hpoc i installed 1.5 from that site its not to hard
[08:01] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: do you have any other problems?
[08:01] <HeLpSomeBoDy> DShepherd i guess need use dpkg and install cd.
[08:01] <Flannel> dizy: only thing I can think of, is that when you unpack it there's a script/program whatever called 'prebuilt'
[08:02] <HeLpSomeBoDy> DShepherd i dont watn reinstall ubuntu ,becase it have many my settings.
[08:02] <hpoc> iam new in linux. iam installed ubunt not many time ago
[08:02] <dizy> o
[08:02] <dizy> your right
[08:02] <dizy> but why does it say not found when its there
[08:02] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: himm.. want to get a new cd and seee if you can install apt from that ?
[08:02] <dizy> i run it when im in that dir
[08:02] <jmoncayo> hey now i get this error on the server tftpd[589] : chroot: /cdroms/fb61pxe: Operation not permitted? any clue
[08:02] <Flannel> dizy: you might have to make it executable
[08:02] <Unenvarjo> dizy, the shell does not look at local directories when looking for executables
[08:03] <dizy> o
[08:03] <rob_> l_r, sorry to bug you about qemu, i couldn't figure it out(if i can even do what i want), but how do i get qemu to boot the installer dvd?
[08:03] <HeLpSomeBoDy> DShepherd i cant install apt from cd because aptitude dont work!!!!!!
[08:03] <Unenvarjo> if you are using nautilus or some other graphical tool and launch it that way, it should run
[08:03] <eobanb> HeLpSomeBoDy, what error message are you getting
[08:03] <babo> so, how do I take text out of a file and then process it and put it back into the same file ... eg. sed '/.../' file.txt > file.txt  ?
[08:03] <jmoncayo> someone here to help me i get this error trying to use pxeboot hey now i get this error on the server tftpd[589] : chroot: /cdroms/fb61pxe: Operation not permitted? any clue
[08:03] <disinterested_pe> hpoc go here and follow the instructions:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:04] <kayde> its working now :-) yay
[08:04] <dizy> umm.. thats weird.. its a directory
[08:04] <HeLpSomeBoDy> eobanb aptitude erorr while loading shared library libstdc++.so.6
[08:04] <dizy> ooooh... the guide sais "  enter "prebuilt"
[08:04] <eobanb> what did you do right before it stopped working
[08:04] <dizy> i guess they mean to go into it
[08:04] <dizy> hehe
[08:04] <Unenvarjo> dizy, :D
[08:04] <DShepherd> HeLpSomeBoDy: hehe.. calm down.... i meant install the lib... library froma different cd.. other than that I am fresh out of ideas..
[08:04] <Unenvarjo> a bit poorly written, if you ask me :)
[08:04] <HeLpSomeBoDy> eobanb . i deleted some packages
[08:05] <l_r> rob, there's the documentation which explains everything.. make an iso of that dvd and configure/tell qemu to boot that iso as if it were your dvd
[08:05] <kayde> dizy, isnt dizy spelt dizzy? :P
[08:05] <Unenvarjo> yeah, more coffee
[08:05] <pastyhermit> gnight all
[08:05] <kayde> night
[08:05] <eobanb> HeLpSomeBoDy, what do you mean 'deleted'
[08:05] <pastyhermit> err actuaally I still have tea to drink
[08:05] <pastyhermit> nm
[08:07] <eobanb> HeLpSomeBoDy, if you can't be more clear than i can't help you
[08:07] <thugy> i need help with frostwire installation anyone?
[08:07] <HeLpSomeBoDy> eobanb i deleted packeges with erorrs and they are get with dependet packeges
[08:07] <dizy> kayde... yes.. but im not dizzy .. just dizy
[08:07] <dizy> :)
[08:07] <l_r> rob, you can use the cdrom directly
[08:07] <eobanb> HeLpSomeBoDy, what..??
[08:08] <l_r> rob, http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-doc.html#SEC9
[08:08] <dizy> gotta restart x
[08:08] <HeLpSomeBoDy> i guess only reinstall help me
[08:09] <HeLpSomeBoDy> i cant install apt because i dont have installer.
[08:09] <HeLpSomeBoDy> do u get it?
[08:09] <thugy> i need help with frostwire installation anyone?
[08:09] <thugy> !Frostwire
[08:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWireHowTo
[08:09] <eobanb> HeLpSomeBoDy, 1) what packages did you remove 2) how did you remove them
[08:09] <eobanb> 3) why did you remove them
[08:09] <tritium> HeLpSomeBoDy: what do you mean by saying that you don't have apt?
[08:10] <eobanb> tritium, he's already explained the symptom multiple times, apt is broken
[08:10] <l_r> rob, http://kqemu.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[08:10] <siimo> thugy: broken link O_o
[08:10] <HeLpSomeBoDy> eobanb i just translate from russian to u one man who use ubuntu =) that misunderstood +0
[08:11] <tritium> eobanb: well, I'm asking for clarification
[08:11] <eobanb> tritium, [01:04]  	HeLpSomeBoDy	eobanb aptitude erorr while loading shared library libstdc++.so.6
[08:11] <disinterested_pe> broken back mountain
[08:11] <eobanb> !ru
[08:11] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[08:11] <thugy> ok i downloaded frostwire off the page whats command to install it
[08:12] <Flannel> thugy: read that page.  It tells you.
[08:12] <siimo> thugy: dpkg -i
[08:12] <HeLpSomeBoDy> eobanb, how to use dpkg to install  apt?
[08:12] <eobanb> !tell HeLpSomeBoDy about ru
[08:13] <ElBrujo> were can i get CorelDraw pakages for linux?
[08:13] <HeLpSomeBoDy> eobanb on russian channel no noise
[08:13] <hpoc> nice page & nice tutorial for install firefox. but i make only copy&paste i don't learning about this tutorial
[08:13] <tritium> ElBrujo: nowhere.  Have you tried inkscape or scribus?
[08:13] <eobanb> HeLpSomeBoDy, well i'm afraid if you can't or aren't willing to tell me what packages you removed before the problem started, then i can't begin to diagnose the issue
[08:13] <eobanb> so i suggest you either figure out what packages you removed, or wait for a response in -ru, or re-install
[08:14] <disinterested_pe> hpoc thats how i did it was copy and paste
[08:14] <tritium> HeLpSomeBoDy: you've tried apt-get rather than aptitude?
[08:14] <siimo> phrizer: join #ubuntu-nz1 :] 
[08:14] <hpoc> yes but i want learning why i type this comment
[08:14] <eobanb> tritium, yes he did..
[08:14] <hpoc> this tutorial ist not for learning :p
[08:14] <tritium> HeLpSomeBoDy: and have you tried downloading the package libstdc++6 from packages.ubuntu.com, and installing it manually with dpkg ?
[08:15] <disinterested_pe> hpoc applications> accessories>terminal
[08:15] <disinterested_pe> start there
[08:15] <ElBrujo> tritum isn't the same thing
[08:16] <T`> ok great i fixed my touchpad issue i think
[08:16] <River> can anyone help me locate instructions for sharing my printer on my home network ?
[08:16] <T`> 0.14.4 driver works fine
[08:16] <T`> ubuntu should upgrade to it AASAP
[08:16] <HeLpSomeBoDy> tritium,no, i want use ubuntu cd, because it have it, am i right?
[08:16] <distanceisdeath> Does M4a work with ubuntu/kubuntu?
[08:16] <eobanb> !tell distanceisdeath about restricted
[08:16] <tritium> HeLpSomeBoDy: it should, yes.
[08:16] <tritium> HeLpSomeBoDy: but if you have network access, you can try as I suggeste
[08:16] <tritium> suggested, even
[08:17] <HeLpSomeBoDy> tritium help setup packeges from cd, how to do it wiht dpkg?
[08:17] <thugy> ok i installed frostwire i have it in applications > internet, when i click on it nothing starts, do i need to install java?
[08:18] <siimo> thugy: if you dont have java then you do
[08:18] <thugy> i just installed ubuntu 2nite
[08:18] <thugy> ok so what sudo apt-get install java?
[08:18] <Madpilot> thugy, no.
[08:18] <siimo> then you do
[08:18] <tritium> HeLpSomeBoDy: mount the CD, then find the .deb you want, and sudo dpgk -i <file.deb>
[08:18] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell thugy about java
[08:18] <hpoc> and the next. how i can update xchat? :p
[08:19] <disinterested_pe> java=coffee
[08:19] <Unenvarjo> mm...coffee
[08:19] <siimo> hpoc: what ubuntu u on
[08:19] <thugy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats doesnt tell me anything about java
[08:19] <amorphis> yeah and javascript are the coockies that come with java coffee ;)
[08:19] <hpoc> i have download ubuntu
[08:19] <Madpilot> thugy, yes it does. Scroll down the page
[08:20] <Unenvarjo> mm...cookies and coffee
[08:20] <pastyhermit> I heard there were native java packages for sun
[08:20] <siimo> thugy: it does read
[08:20] <hpoc> and installed it i dont know what for version
[08:20] <pastyhermit> cause gij doesnt run anything
[08:20] <disinterested_pe> im guessing dapper hpoc
[08:20] <River> can anyone help me get my printer to print for others onthe network ?
[08:20] <tritium> pastyhermit: in dapper there are
[08:20] <pastyhermit> sweet
[08:20] <pastyhermit> tritium: what are they called and how do I get em
[08:21] <hpoc> how i can see what for a version i have?
[08:21] <bimberi> !version
[08:21] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type ''lsb_release -a'' in a terminal.
[08:21] <bimberi> River: what are the "others" running? windows?
[08:21] <River> no .. allof us run Ubuntu
[08:21] <amorphis> I run suse :)
[08:21] <hpoc> breezey
[08:22] <hpoc> breezy
[08:22] <amorphis> but going to switch ubuntu
[08:22] <tritium> pastyhermit: apt-cache search sun-java, and you'll see what packages are available for install
[08:22] <siimo> hpoc: do you have backports repos enabled?
[08:22] <River> bimberi: all of us are running Ubuntu .. Breezy
[08:22] <pastyhermit> sweet
[08:22] <eobanb> amorphis, ...? they're talking about River's home network, not you
[08:22] <pastyhermit> thanks tritium
[08:22] <hpoc> what is that?
[08:22] <amorphis> eobanb: ok :s :p
[08:22] <Healot> amorphis: all out migration, no migration plan at all?
[08:22] <siimo> hpoc: post your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:22] <bimberi> River: yep, kk, i was poised to tell you about sharing with windows :)
[08:23] <monsterb> How do I remove the Ubuntu branding from Gnome?
[08:24] <River> bimberi: one user has both windoze and ubuntu so both knowledge sets would be good, although Ubuntu sharing i8s my main goal at the moment
[08:24] <disinterested_pe> siimo hpoc sounds like everyone else who's ever tried linux
[08:24] <siimo> monsterb: what branding do you want to remove? just change themes!
[08:24] <Mithsir> Hi! I got dapper and have this problem: after shutdown, my usb devices seem to stay powered (LEDs are still on). How can I fix this?
[08:24] <eobanb> monsterb, read gnome-look.org for all sorts of info about customising gnome
[08:24] <monsterb> siimo - gnome start up splash - gnome start menu foot
[08:25] <xtj> holle
[08:25] <Joetheodd> Has anyone managed to play World of WarCraft in wine?
[08:25] <siimo> monsterb: startup splash can be turned off in your preferences
[08:25] <hpoc> siimo, http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/746236
[08:25] <siimo> monsterb: gnome menu's logo can be changed by changing a gconf-editor key you will have to google that
[08:26] <bimberi> River: there is this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[08:26] <glick> man its been a while since a compiled a kernel
[08:26] <Joetheodd> xtj: tu hablas ingles?
[08:26] <eobanb> !tell xtj about es
[08:27] <Surfnmate> yo hablo ingles
[08:27] <River> bimberi: thanks ... any idea where i can find the ubuntu one ?
[08:27] <Healot> oh it's ingles
[08:27] <Joetheodd> Surfnmate: Pfft, I'll never get Spanish right.. =p
[08:27] <Joetheodd> Surfnmate: But I guess I'm doing alright for never having taken a class on it.
[08:28] <Surfnmate> muy very well my amigo
[08:28] <monsterb> siimo - eoband - thx
[08:28] <Healot> muy bien mi amigo
[08:28] <bimberi> River: i don't know for sure but I think that ubuntu to ubuntu will be the same, except you use System -> Admin -> Printing and add a CUPS printer using the URI at step 6 of that wikipage
[08:28] <Surfnmate> ta hell are the birds chirping at this hour?? its 1:28am sleep birds!!
[08:28] <siimo> hpoc: http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/746241 heres an updated copy of the same file... replace your existing file with this one
[08:29] <Surfnmate> oh wait theyre getting their groove on
[08:29] <Surfnmate> groovy
[08:29] <eobanb> Surfnmate, take it to -offtopic please
[08:29] <Surfnmate> nah its ok, ill stop :)
[08:29] <amorphis> Surfnmate: maybe the are afraid ... ur window still open?
[08:30] <Surfnmate> nah we just got a million liters of rain, so theyre probably very happy to get wet
[08:30] <bimberi> River: steps 1 to 5 still apply, because they're about configuring CUPS on the box with the printer attached to it
[08:30] <Healot> litres... hehe unAmerican
[08:30] <glick> Surfnmate, buy a pellet gun and they will stop chirping real quick
[08:30] <glick> an ubuntu powered pellet gun of course
[08:31] <Surfnmate> with a super dooper laser guide
[08:31] <Joetheodd> glick: powered by dapper devil - shoots out flaming pellets
[08:31] <maikol> is there a way to copy entire directories from the command line or must it be done one file at a time
[08:31] <Madpilot> guys, #ubuntu-offtopic for the chat, please
[08:31] <Surfnmate> glick actually i think Linux is so unAmerican cuz everything here is so freaking metric
[08:31] <Joetheodd> maikol with the -r flag for recursive
[08:31] <eobanb> i'm going to ask one more time that you take this to -offtopic
[08:31] <Surfnmate> sorry Mad
[08:31] <tritium> Surfnmate: offtopic, dude
[08:32] <River> bimberi: thanks ... gr8 advice & info ... i will give it a go and see what happens ...
[08:32] <Flannel> Joetheodd: yeah, lots of people have played WoW on wine, check the forums.
[08:32] <maikol> Joetheodd, thanks
[08:32] <glick> heh i think i spotted a X bug
[08:32] <bimberi> River: If it works, you could put a wikipage together :)
[08:32] <Surfnmate> im gonna get some water brb
[08:33] <glick> when i overflowed the buffer in a program i was writting X wrote garbage to the screen and restarted
[08:33] <glick> hehe
[08:34] <glick> hehe ima try to find out what happens, see if i can write a sploit
[08:34] <amorphis> lol glick :) u evil dude ;)
[08:34] <eobanb> glick, somehow i doubt it..
[08:34] <xeon_> hello
[08:34] <eobanb> welcome, xeon_
[08:34] <glick> eobanb, doubt what?
[08:35] <eobanb> glick, that you really did find a bug in xorg
[08:35] <xeon_> can anyone show me a link to a tutorial for installing the nvidia driver on dapper?
[08:35] <River> bimberi: hee hee ..yes, i might just do that .. !
[08:35] <Healot> !nvidia
[08:35] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:35] <eobanb> xeon_, well, first of all, you should be asking in #ubuntu+1
[08:35] <hpoc> ok. i have replaced sources.list. how i can see with aptitude wich version is it?
[08:35] <xeon_> sorry, the help documentation said to ask here
[08:35] <eobanb> hpoc, *replaced* sources.list? that's probably not a good idea
[08:35] <glick> eobanb, there is a bug somewhere that allows me to overwrite another process's address space
[08:36] <hpoc> nope only the text
[08:36] <_pooh> Hello! I'm trying to customize a live cd based on ubuntu live, but the problem is that I can't change anything related to the user since the user is created during the boot... can anyone help me ?
[08:36] <glick> some buffer bounds somewhere is not being checked
[08:36] <glick> and thats all i need :)
[08:36] <tritium> xeon_: the process is the same.  See the wiki page
[08:37] <bimberi> xeon_: coming here for dapper support will be fine from June 1 (its release) :)
[08:37] <glick> and guess what runs as root?
[08:37] <glick> thats right...Xorg
[08:37] <trevor> does anyone here play XMOTO on ubuntu? I have a question about it...
[08:37] <hpoc> aptitude show firefox > show me version 1.0.7 why not the newst version?
[08:38] <xeon_> thanks guys
[08:39] <glick> i opened a server on my local machine and fed my server a 4kb URL
[08:39] <Healot> for ubuntu 5.10, it stays that way, hpoc
[08:39] <glick> thats when it happened
[08:39] <glick> breaking code is fun
[08:39] <glick> heh
[08:40] <eobanb> glick, mind sending me the programme? i'd sure like to see that for myself
[08:41] <glick> eobanb, yeah i cant send it to you
[08:42] <eobanb> well forgive my scepticism then.
[08:42] <glick> eobanb, what are you the guy we have to prove things to or something?
[08:43] <reconciliation> If I create an appointment with an alarm in Evolution. Must eveolution be running in order for the alarm to be activated.
[08:43] <eobanb> glick, no, but i just want to point out that i encounter people all the time that claim or think they've found an exploit or bug when really haven't, that's all
[08:43] <tritium> reconciliation: no, just evolution-data-server
[08:44] <glick> eobanb, well id say being able to randomly write into video memory is pretty bad
[08:44] <eobanb> glick, so is an asteroid about to crash into earth
[08:45] <reconciliation> tri: is the data-server running by default?
[08:45] <glick> eobanb, ima do some detective work before i post code/sploits to make sure
[08:45] <glick> that i do infact have a serioud bug
[08:45] <glick> but it certainly looks like it
[08:45] <glick> its certainly reproducable
[08:45] <reconciliation> tri: nvm its running thx
[08:45] <eobanb> glick, are you running breezy or dapper
[08:45] <glick> dapper
[08:45] <Madpilot> glick, have you filed this bug?
[08:46] <Madpilot> !bug
[08:46] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[08:46] <glick> Madpilot, im still looking into it to see what it is
[08:46] <glick> so i can file an intelligent bug
[08:46] <petrik> what other libs are needed to play DVD. I have libdvdcss but still no joy
[08:46] <eobanb> !tell petrik about restricted
[08:47] <glick> to bad there is no DTrace for linux
[08:47] <eobanb> glick, and there never will be as long as sun keeps up their CDDL BS, but that's a subject for -offtopic
[08:47] <glick> eobanb, so are Xorg bugs
[08:48] <eobanb> you're the one that brought it up.
[08:48] <glick> which is why im bringing it down
[08:48] <freethesource> hello
[08:48] <amorphis> yiiiha, at last!! i managed to play mp3's on suse :)) ... one step closer to not being an noob
[08:48] <eobanb> welcome, freethesource
[08:48] <petrik> Seen that site but have not been able to get it to work
[08:49] <reconciliation> petrik: A program called VLC (video lan client) is perhaps the best player I ever used on any platform. Try it. Its cool.
[08:49] <freethesource> I know that this is a support channel, is there a place where people just discuss ubuntu on non support related topics
[08:49] <freethesource> ?
[08:49] <maikol> freethesource, check the topic
[08:50] <eobanb> freethesource, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:50] <xeon_> directions worked great. thanks again guys
[08:50] <reconciliation> Free: You want to discuss how awesome ubuntu is. It makes me cry how far linux desktop has come :)
[08:51] <petrik> reconciliation, I can't get that program to even spin the disk let alone read data from it
[08:51] <freethesource> thank you
[08:52] <freethesource> I do have one support related question
[08:52] <freethesource> is there an Gnome version of Kdevelop?
[08:52] <Guyzmo> whoa
[08:52] <Guyzmo> fortune ! :)
[08:52] <Healot> no, KDevelop is using KDE toolkit (Qt), but it can run in GNOME :)
[08:53] <fLy-> step up from the gnome i used with redhat 5.2
[08:56] <C_REATiVE_> can i install nforce driver to ubuntu ?
[08:56] <Healot> the Windows driver? C_REATiVE_?
[08:57] <petrik> OK I'm getting somewhere now.
[08:58] <C_REATiVE_> :))
[08:58] <C_REATiVE_> no, the linux driver
[08:58] <Healot> then YES
[08:59] <Madpilot> C_REATiVE_, nforce driver for what?
[08:59] <C_REATiVE_> and do you think it will works? :\
[08:59] <C_REATiVE_> im afraid to try it
[09:00] <Healot> it should work, if you know what you're doing
[09:00] <Spaceraver_U>  anybody who can tell me why i cant use update anymore?? i get this error:  opening the cache (e: Problem parsing dependency dependency Replaces, E: Error ocurred whileprocessing xkeyboard-config (newVersion1), E: Problem with Mergelist /var/lib/dpkg/status, E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[09:00] <Spaceraver_U> can i just delete the status file perhaps??
[09:01] <glick> hey how can i install the unix system call man pages?
[09:01] <glick> what packages are they in
[09:02] <rixxon> glick: why not read them online
[09:02] <glick> rixxon, cause i hate having to open up a browser all the time
[09:02] <hyphenated> glick: manpages-dev I think
[09:02] <rixxon> glick: heh
[09:02] <glick> thanks hydroksyde
[09:02] <hydroksyde> hmmmm
[09:03] <hyphenated> don't blame me for his typos ;-)
[09:03] <hydroksyde> glick, you mean hyphenated?
[09:03] <glick> yah him too
[09:03] <eobanb> heh
[09:04] <idigthought> hello everybody
[09:04] <`paul> can i mount a remote folder in my computer???  (SSH connection)
[09:05] <glick> `paul, yes
[09:05] <idigthought> anyone willing to help with a usb question
[09:05] <eobanb> !anyone
[09:05] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[09:06] <_pooh> Hello! I'm trying to customize a live cd based on ubuntu live, but the problem is that I can't change anything related to the user since the user is created during the boot... can anyone help me ?
[09:06] <`paul> glick: how??? link will do.. :)
[09:07] <`paul> if my editor doesnt support remote editing den maybe mounting a remote folder will do...
[09:07] <idigthought> i'm using a griffin powermate, and as soon as i plug it in, the device is busy and i can't use it for anything else.  ideas?
[09:07] <glick> paul you mean at bootup?
[09:07] <noodle1> i <3 how amarok installs and just works on ubuntu :D
[09:08] <`paul> its ok if i have to do it evrytime i log in
[09:08] <`paul> :D
[09:08] <`paul> im trying various php editors and some of them have no ssh support
[09:08] <glick> `paul, at the gnome desktop under places "connect to server' you can create a remote directory on your desktop
[09:08] <glick> `paul, or anywhere
[09:09] <`paul> den even if my editor doesnt support ssh connection it can see the files?
[09:10] <glick> `paul, editors dont have ssh support
[09:10] <glick> `paul, its transparent
[09:10] <`paul> some does
[09:10] <`paul> i mean kate has
[09:10] <`paul> :(
[09:10] <Will123> i can't get live CD version to work. i have it boot from CD, but it always goes to windows.
[09:11] <maikol> does one have to use NFS between two linux boxes or can one use smfs to mount
[09:11] <maikol> *smbfs
[09:11] <family> Will- do you see anything ubuntu related on the screen at all before it boots to windows?
[09:11] <zerodni> you need to make sure that you have boot from cd set first in your boot order in your bios Will123
[09:11] <freebse> glick, paul: some really do, but I can't tell you which, EngInSite PHP Editor 3.4 does for WinDOS, so maybe there are other
[09:12] <Will123> no i didn't. i see the curser blink and then it goes to windows.
[09:12] <Madpilot> Will123, did you check to make sure it's a good CD?
[09:12] <family> maikol- you can mount just about anything
[09:12] <Will123> well, i tried 2 CDs. does it matter that i used Windows default burner?
[09:12] <Flannel> I imagine its a BIOS problem.  Well, either that, or he just burned the iso to a cd as a file, intsead of doing the image thing.
[09:13] <family> Will- did you check what freebse said?
[09:13] <sflash> can anyone help me install a printer driver?
[09:13] <maikol> family how would one go about in mounting a directory on another linux box using smbfs then. mount -t smbfs -o ip=ip device destination?
[09:13] <Flannel> Will123: did you burn the CD as an image?  or juts burn the .iso file to a CD?
[09:13] <family> freebse- know a good channel where I can get some openbsd help?
[09:13] <sflash> its a .sh file
[09:14] <Will123> i just burned the .iso to the cd.
[09:14] <Flannel> family: /msg chanserv list #*freebsd*  seems to be plenty.
[09:14] <Flannel> Will123: that's you're problem then.
[09:14] <zerodni> will did you check your bios
[09:14] <noodle1> sflash: try type this? ./filename.sh in your terminal
[09:14] <Flannel> family: erm, change that to open isntead of free, obviously.
[09:14] <freebse> family: what about #openbsd
[09:14] <family> maikol- probably, i don't know the exact syntax, but that looks about it
[09:14] <Will123> oh, okay. i'll get some burner software then.
[09:14] <`paul> glick, freebse: will sshfs do the trick? in mounting remote folders???
[09:15] <maikol> family thast ok. but it didnt work
[09:15] <Flannel> Will123: I imagine windows... eh, I shouldn't say that.  But, windows should be able to burn an iso as an image.
[09:15] <Will123> yes, this laptop gives me the option of booting from CD.
[09:15] <glick> `paul, i used it once
[09:15] <Will123> okay
[09:15] <glick> seemed to work ok
[09:15] <Will123> thanks
[09:15] <`paul> ok will try thanks
[09:16] <H080J03> hello
[09:16] <cam> hi, Ive recompiled my kernel and since then, when i plug an usb key in it, it's no longer automounting ... I have to mount it manually. .. any idea what's wrong ? (im using 2.6.16.18 with usbmasstorage support and hotplug option)
[09:16] <sflash> Flannel: it says that unable to execute: permission denied , i used sudo too
[09:16] <family> maikol- can you access the samba share without trying to mount it?
[09:17] <H080J03> i am having trouble with a very simple shell script can any one help me? http://pastebin.com/746280
[09:17] <Flannel> sflash: er, was that supposed to go to me?
[09:17] <MistaED> cam: did you put support for udev? hotplug is depreciated afaik in ubuntu
[09:17] <sflash> noodle1: it says that unable to execute: permission denied , i used sudo too
[09:17] <noodle1> sflash: -_-
[09:17] <freebse> hotplug on 2.6.10 it should be udev
[09:17] <sflash> Flannel: sorry dude
[09:18] <glick> heh the ABS guide is pretty sweet and well written
[09:18] <glick> and extensive
[09:18] <noodle1> sflash: I'm not sure then, but that's how you would generally run a .sh file
[09:19] <H080J03> hey slflash did you chmod it?
[09:19] <cam> MistaED, hmm can  you give me the exact flag for udev ? I can't find it in .config
[09:20] <MistaED> cam: that's just a guess, the last time i compiled my own kernel was with slackware a few years back
[09:20] <sflash> noodle1: do you think its because this driver is meant for redhat? because thats what it said on the site
[09:20] <MistaED> cam: another thing came to mind, maybe pmount needs to be added
[09:21] <noodle1> sflash: try what H080J03 said, sudo chmod +x filename.sh, sudo ./filename.sh
[09:23] <MistaED> cam: also check if hal support is in as well (nfi how the kernel interacts with it, but i'd say it needs a flag)
[09:23] <ubun> ola
[09:23] <H080J03> http://pastebin.com/746280 i don't know how to handle the spaces in my script, i want to be able to just delete all the files in my download folder
[09:23] <ubun> o que
[09:24] <sflash> noodle1: ok i got it to run. It was on my mounted drive, i guess i cant execute off of it or something
[09:25] <cronbsd> H08- why don't you just use "rm"?
[09:25] <H080J03> i do
[09:25] <H080J03> in the script
[09:25] <H080J03> but ls returns spaces in the file name
[09:25] <_pooh> Hello! I'm trying to customize a live cd based on ubuntu live, but the problem is that I can't change anything related to the user since the user is created during the boot... can anyone help me ?
[09:26] <cronbsd> yeah, but why not just do "rm ~/Downloads/*" ?
[09:26] <noodle1> sflash: no, the file itself didn't have it's execute bit set
[09:26] <H080J03> hmm
[09:26] <H080J03> thx
[09:26] <H080J03> didn't think of that
[09:26] <H080J03> i had it in a for loop
[09:26] <sflash> noodle1: now i got it to run. it says usage: trap [-lp]  and so forth, no idea what that means
[09:26] <Flannel> H080J03: use quotes.
[09:26] <noodle1> sflash: me too :) but at least it runs heh
[09:26] <H080J03> hmm i did
[09:27] <H080J03> but i like the # method tho
[09:27] <Will123> okay, i'm going to use roxio easy CD creator to make a "data" disk. it labels the iso as an image file so i think it will work.
[09:27] <H080J03> shortens my script down to one line
[09:27] <Flannel> rm "/yadda/$i" will work. (so you know later when youre writing longer scripts)
[09:27] <cronbsd> H08- you don't need any script, just use that one line
[09:27] <Determinist> !nvidia
[09:27] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:28] <H080J03> hmm i like scripts tho!!
[09:28] <H080J03> i like to type in clearupdownloads
[09:28] <H080J03> and have it do that!!
[09:28] <H080J03> even tho i could just set a var in .bash_profile
[09:28] <H080J03> hmm
[09:28] <H080J03> so many ways
[09:29] <detra17> hi ... I just installed Dapper beta 2 again ... But from a text-based install cd ... How do I install X afterwards ?
[09:30] <Flannel> detra17: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu/xubuntu) (and for dapper support, #ubuntu+1 until it's released)
[09:30] <detra17> ok tyhx
[09:30] <detra17> thx
[09:30] <disinterested_pe> arg
[09:30] <zcat[1] > anyone know anything about SiS 650? Can it to any better than basic graphics?
[09:30] <zcat[1] > *do
[09:31] <H080J03> when is drapper coming out?
[09:31] <Flannel> june 1
[09:31] <H080J03> nice
[09:31] <zcat[1] > drapper? I didn't know he was in!
[09:32] <cciRRus> where is the config file that sets the kernel modules to load upon startup?
[09:32] <flashmasters> Hey guys, i goot disconnected... so i got it to run, then it says usage: trap argumentshere...
[09:32] <Flannel> cciRRus: you mean your grub menu list?
[09:33] <H080J03> hey flashmasters do you have flash 8 running on linux?
[09:33] <cciRRus> kernel modules
[09:33] <cciRRus> i wanna load my madwifi modules automatically
[09:33] <H080J03> hmm
[09:34] <H080J03> tell H080J03 more
[09:34] <H080J03> is it flash 8 pro?
[09:34] <H080J03> cuz i can only get flash 8 basic running
[09:34] <zcat[1] > it's whatever was on the website.. Windows Firefox under Wine with the windows plugins..
[09:35] <flashmasters> after i run my printer installation file. it says Uncompressing Lexmakr Printer Drivertrap: usage: trap [-lp] 
[09:35] <H080J03> no i mean macromedia flash 8 app that alows you to make .swf files
[09:35] <`paul> is there a commandline for mounting remote files/folders in my computer??? (SSH)
[09:35] <zcat[1] > Ahhh ok, nope.
[09:36] <H080J03> yea
[09:36] <calamari_> hi
[09:36] <H080J03> hi
[09:36] <H080J03> flashmasters do you have flash running on linux?
[09:36] <H080J03> oh
[09:36] <calamari_> is there any kind of window manager or display driver etc, that would allow me to run an X server without a graphical display?
[09:36] <H080J03> he left
[09:37] <zcat[1] > virtual framebuffer?
[09:37] <cciRRus> calamari_ why dont u just skip loading X
[09:37] <calamari_> cciRRus: no, I want to run X
[09:37] <H080J03> calmari yea just run the command for X and put a & at the end
[09:37] <zcat[1] > there's something like that..
[09:37] <maikol> make doesnt come already installed?
[09:37] <H080J03> nope
[09:37] <Flannel> maikol: nope.  build-essential
[09:37] <thoreauputic> !b-e
[09:37] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[09:37] <maikol> and neither gcc nor g++
[09:37] <zcat[1] > isn't there something like 'screen' for X too?
[09:38] <ubun> ubotu
[09:38] <cciRRus> Flannel: I found it. It's /etc/modules  :)
[09:38] <Flannel> yeah, it's called ratpoison
[09:38] <ubun> ubotu
[09:38] <ubun> ubotuuuuuuuuuuuu
[09:38] <ubun> ubotu
[09:38] <Flannel> !bot
[09:38] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:38] <ubun> ubotu
[09:38] <ubun> ubotu
[09:38] <ubun> ubotu
[09:38] <eobanb> moron.
[09:38] <zcat[1] > !ratpoison
[09:38] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zcat[1] 
[09:38] <calamari_> ratpoison seems graphical
[09:38] <Flannel> zcat[1] : screen : terminal :: ratpoison : X
[09:38] <Flannel> it is graphical, but you needn't a mouse.
[09:39] <Flannel> well, for window manager stuffs.
[09:39] <idigthought> hello.  how do i prevent  kernel module from loading automatically?  the scenario is this: when i plug in my powermate, it automatically loads a kernel module called powermate, and that is causing me problems.
[09:39] <zcat[1] > ratpoision is what I want; what you want is just run X and then chvt away or whatever.. who cares if it's actually running and hidden, or just virtualised?
[09:40] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: avoiding bans is stupid and not allowed
[09:40] <calamari_> zcat[1] : well, I was hoping to run some X apps via ssh from a text only client
[09:40] <zcat[1] > !botsnack
[09:40] <ubotu> :)
[09:40] <imran> hello
[09:41] <C_REATiVE_> how can i access my windows partitions under linux ?
[09:41] <Flannel> calamari_: ah, no.  You need to do X tunneling for that.
[09:41] <Flannel> !tell C_REATiVE_ about NTFS
[09:41] <calamari_> Flannel: exactly
[09:41] <imran> any one have time to help out a COMPLETE newbie? much appreciated
[09:41] <zcat[1] > so leave X running, xhost + so anything can connect to it, set your DISPLAY to point to it..
[09:41] <AlmtyBob> I set up an ssh server on port 21 of my box and I connect to it from my other PC which is on the outside the firewall, but when I try to connect from work I get a blank screen with no login.  In the event log I can see my server and Putty exchange versions and then putty says it's using SSH Protocol 2, but then that's it, no keys exchanged
[09:41] <calamari_> Flannel: but I have no way to display the apps :)
[09:41] <Will123> :( i still think i am doing this incorrectly. i'm going to just just try and mess with the Boot Order? : /
[09:41] <maikol> wow, i couldnt install the build-essential because of a lack of memory
[09:41] <maikol> haha
[09:41] <Flannel> calamari_: you'll need a local X server.  Why don't you have a method?  windows?
[09:42] <imran> has anyone here used the reverse engineered broadcom drivers?
[09:42] <C_REATiVE_> thx
[09:42] <calamari_> Flannel: ahh.. I see what you mean
[09:42] <calamari_> Flannel: yeah I'm sshing in from ms-dos
[09:42] <calamari_> (it's an ancient laptop, but it works good enough for dos and ssh)
[09:43] <zcat[1] > OK, I am totally lost what you're trying to do. Example; I have a blind friend who listens to the soundtrack of Discovery channel. He runs xawtv but controls it from console... I thought you were looking for something like that.
[09:43] <Flannel> calamari_: ms dos!  hmm, well, it might be possible.  I dont know.  It's doable from windows, via cygwin.  I imagine you can do it from DOS too.
[09:43] <zcat[1] > For accessing X from a windows box you probably want to look at VNC
[09:43] <calamari_> zcat: nah I was hoping for something like the old dos apps did, for example vbdos (it had it's own text gui, could drag windows and everything)
[09:43] <Flannel> calamari_: well, provided the X in cygwin works with DOS.  I don't know if it's supported or not.  But, cygwin does provide a local X server.
[09:44] <Flannel> zcat[1] : that's curses sort of thing.
[09:44] <calamari_> Flannel: nah that's strictly windows only
[09:44] <zcat[1] > vnc provides a way to control a machine remotely. There's both client and server for both linux and windows..
[09:44] <calamari_> Flannel: but even if I was running an X server it'd need to be running in a text mode
[09:44] <Flannel> calamari_: why? why not int_16?
[09:44] <calamari_> int 16 is the keyboard :)
[09:45] <calamari_> maybe you meant int 10 :)
[09:45] <user_> hello... the wifi light on my laptop keeps blinking, like it's searching for a network.... is there any way i can disable this? i tried disabling the interface...
[09:45] <calamari_> oh.. decimal.. 16 d = 10 h ;)
[09:45] <calamari_> hehehe
[09:45] <disinterested_pe> i still cant get volume up and down from my keyboard
[09:45] <calamari_> well whatever, I guess it hasn't been done :)
[09:46] <Will123> ugh. i don't know what to do. it still won't load the CD. i even changed the boot order.
[09:46] <DeathSyndrome> can anyone tell me how to update my breezy to dapper ?
[09:46] <Flannel> calamari_: heh.  Right, so, I don't know.  cygwin might work.  Google it.  I'm going to do the same, as it piques my interest.  ACtually, just google for a DOS based X server, since that's all you need.
[09:47] <DeathSyndrome> anyone can help me in updating breezy to dapper ?
[09:47] <calamari_> Flannel: Desqview/X provides an X11R5 server
[09:47] <zcat[1] > DeathSyndrome: wait three days, order the CD, do it that way....
[09:48] <calamari_> Flannel: but.. I guess that means I wouldn't be able to run modern X11R6 apps
[09:48] <zcat[1] > I tried to upgrade with apt and it totally broke EVERYTHING!!
[09:48] <eobanb> zcat[1] , for all intents and purposes, they're the same thing
[09:48] <zcat[1] > calamari_: you can do almost everything in textmode anyhow.. even some fairly sophisticated image manipulation..
[09:49] <zcat[1] > eobanb: in theory :)
[09:49] <calamari_> zcat[1] : yeah I was trying to install pdf2html and it was trying to uninstall my cups stuff.. I assume someone seriously hosed up the dapper dependencies
[09:49] <zcat[1] > I ended up just reinstalling.. yay for having a separate /home partition
[09:50] <siccness> Intelligent man, zcat[1] 
[09:50] <siccness> :)
[09:50] <nppplsthx> i've never tried making seperate /home partition
[09:50] <siccness> Unfortunately, I was an idiot, so I'll have to back it all up.
[09:50] <nppplsthx> guess that's probably a good idea
[09:50] <disinterested_pe> eh just reinstall
[09:51] <disinterested_pe> what the hey
[09:51] <zcat[1] > hey, they're only files...
[09:51] <disinterested_pe> yep and theyre free
[09:51] <nppplsthx> fat32 /home partition, to take stuff back and forth between windows
[09:51] <zcat[1] > fat32 home is not a good idea.. nobody owns anything...
[09:52] <nppplsthx> oh
[09:52] <zcat[1] > at least not a good idea on a multiuser system
[09:52] <disinterested_pe> when i first installed it stuch running through driver lists all night it ran like that
[09:52] <siccness> nppplsthx, I made the choice to never use Windows again on this box. So now I need a new computer to program in VB, lol
[09:52] <disinterested_pe> stuck
[09:52] <zcat[1] > VB? switch to python!
[09:53] <siccness> zcat[1] , I'd love to, and will be. I have to wait until University/College/TAFE course is over
[09:53] <nppplsthx> fat32 is less secure tha ntfs then?
[09:53] <siccness> Correct.
[09:53] <zcat[1] > fat32 doesn't have any real permissions or owners..
[09:53] <nppplsthx> oh learn something new
[09:54] <nzx> i hope these new modules work with my tv card
[09:54] <zcat[1] > or simlinks, or attributes, or journalling, or....
[09:54] <disinterested_pe> whoopie
[09:54] <siccness> zcat[1] , A good idea would be to have a look at ACL.
[09:54] <siccness> I learn a heap using ACL.
[09:54] <zcat[1] > It's kinda nice for camera cards and mp3 players but it's not a real filesystem.
[09:54] <siccness> s/learn/learnt
[09:55] <zcat[1] > oops hafta go ..
[09:55] <Will123> yay! i got it to work :)
[09:55] <Will123> i don't know what i did..
[09:55] <disinterested_pe> kill
[09:55] <disinterested_pe> die
[09:56] <cronbsd> npppl- security with fat32? all fat32 is is a giant table that lists the address of each file
[09:56] <siccness> cronbsd, heh, yeah.
[09:59] <disinterested_pe> metal lawn darts should never have been banned if they hadent some of us wouldnt be here now
[09:59] <disinterested_pe> lol
[10:02] <nzx> is there a program in dapper that i can use to customise my boot up process?
[10:05] <KenSentMe_> Is there a way to remotely loginon an other pc using vnc, without having to manually login. Now when i have to restart a system that i command using vnc i have to walk to that computer to be able to login with vnc again.
[10:06] <H080J03> !time 94851
[10:06] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, H080J03
[10:06] <eobanb> KenSentMe, well, you can enable auto-login
[10:06] <H080J03> lol sry
[10:06] <H080J03> wrong room
[10:06] <`paul> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "en_PH:en", etc... are supported and installed on your system.  whats worng?
[10:06] <`paul> im installing fuse-utils
[10:07] <KenSentMe_> eobanb: That a user automaticly logs in, you mean?
[10:07] <eobanb> KenSentMe, yes
[10:07] <KenSentMe_> Isn't there a way to vnc the login screen?
[10:07] <eobanb> uhhh maybe, if you ran your vncd as root or something...i really dont know
[10:07] <KenSentMe_> eobanb: that would be a bad idea i think
[10:08] <eobanb> KenSentMe, in any case, what's wrong with using sshd with x forwarding instead
[10:08] <GreySim> Question.  Anyone know how to go about burning an ISO that the 'file' command reports as being: Apple Partition data block size: 2048, first type: Apple_partition_map, name: Apple, number of blocks: 63, second type: Apple_Driver43, name: Macintosh, number of blocks: 56, third type: Apple_Void, name: , number of blocks: 0, fourth type: Apple_Driver_ATAPI, name: Macintosh, number of blocks: 56
[10:08] <`paul> is there a way to mount remote files/folders on my machine???
[10:08] <`paul> is there a way to mount remote files/folders on my machine?????
[10:09] <GreySim> Nautilus says it isn't a valid ISO.
[10:09] <eobanb> !patience
[10:09] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[10:09] <`paul> !ok
[10:09] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, `paul
[10:09] <eobanb> `paul, of course there are ways.
[10:09] <GreySim> `paul, yes.  Samba and NFS are your two best bets, probably, depending on the situation.
[10:09] <KenSentMe_> eobanb: what do you mean by that? I can login with ssh but only command line. But i want to test some things on the desktop.
[10:09] <_pooh> Hello! I'm trying to customize a live cd based on ubuntu live, but the problem is that I can't change anything related to the user since the user is created during the boot... can anyone help me ?
[10:10] <eobanb> KenSentMe, ssh can be used for anything, including running graphical programmes.
[10:10] <KenSentMe_> !samba
[10:10] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[10:10] <`paul> the server is debian... and accepts ssh connections
[10:10] <KenSentMe_> eobanb: how do i do that then?
[10:10] <KenSentMe_> eobanb: where to start?
[10:11] <GreySim> `paul, in that case, I would recommend NFS.  I've only set it up once, and I don't remember the details, but you should be able to find a HOWTO without much trouble.
[10:11] <GreySim> !NFS
[10:11] <ubotu> somebody said nfs was see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[10:11] <GreySim> Ah, there!
[10:11] <eobanb> KenSentMe, http://www.google.com/search?q=x-forwarding+how-to&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[10:11] <`paul> GreySIm: i tried installing sshfs but its for the lates version of ubuntu  i think... i tried installing the files manually but failed :(
[10:12] <eobanb> `paul, you could always upgrade to dapper
[10:12] <GreySim> `paul, I don't know anything about sshfs, and I've only set NFS up once.  Sorry, but good luck!  Someone else around probably knows more than I do about these things.
[10:12] <GreySim> -probably +surely
[10:13] <`paul> eobanb: u mean u can upgrade to dapper without a cd?
[10:13] <eobanb> `paul, of course.
[10:14] <GreySim> !upgrading
[10:14] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[10:15] <GreySim> Hrm.  Failing the Apple-specific format question, does anyone know of any good Gnome CD burning programs besides Gnome Baker, which I'm about to try?
[10:15] <eobanb> GreySim, gnomebaker ought to work just fine
[10:15] <eobanb> it it doesnt work out for you, let us know
[10:15] <blakcheez> how do I change the login screen using one I downloaded off the internet
[10:16] <GreySim> eobanb, I hope so!  Thanks.
[10:16] <`paul> how do i know the version of my ubuntu installiation
[10:16] <eobanb> blakcheez, is it for gdm or kdm
[10:16] <blakcheez> gdm
[10:16] <eobanb> !tell paul about version
[10:16] <eobanb> er
[10:16] <eobanb> !tell `paul about version
[10:16] <`paul> heh
[10:17] <GreySim> Ah, Gnome Baker *is* working.  Thanks.  :)
[10:17] <`paul> !version
[10:17] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type ''lsb_release -a'' in a terminal.
[10:17] <Frogzoo> lsb_release -a
[10:17] <eobanb> no need for redundancy....
[10:17] <`paul> sux im usin hoary....
[10:17] <blakcheez> eobanb: for the gdm
[10:18] <eobanb> blak, look at System > Administration > Login Screen
[10:18] <GreySim> blakcheez, System -> Ad--that.  :)
[10:18] <blakcheez> yeah, but I clicked that, put in my pw, then it just disappears and does nothing
[10:19] <GreySim> Eeep, that doesn't sound right.
[10:19] <blakcheez> no matter what on the admin list, it does the same thing
[10:19] <GreySim> blakcheez, try 'gdmsetup' from the terminal, perhaps?  That might give you more information.
[10:20] <GreySim> Well, 'sudo gdmsetup'.
[10:20] <blakcheez> GreySim: ok, that got it working
[10:21] <GreySim> Odd that that would work and not the menu item though.  Very odd.  :|
[10:21] <blakcheez> yes, i know
[10:21] <blakcheez> it's been puzzling me ever since I installed Ubuntu
[10:23] <rixxon> firefox complains about out of space when trying to install extensions, i have 6gb free
[10:24] <eobanb> glad to hear it, GreySim
[10:24] <nutterpc> lol, only 22Gb left on me hdd
[10:24] <eobanb> nutterpc, i dont know about you, but to me, that's quite a bit
[10:24] <GreySim> Oh, support channel only!  Didn't realize there was a chatter channel.  :D
[10:25] <nutterpc> eobanb: I need more hdd space =)
[10:25] <nutterpc> givin me poor network card & hdd a good thrashing
[10:26] <nutterpc> getting more of my backup off our NAS and also downloading some Linux iso's off my isp's mirror
[10:26] <nutterpc> lol
[10:26] <eobanb> GreySim, that's quite all right... #ubuntu-offtopic is usually a nice place for general discussion
[10:26] <cam> MistaED, ok, I checked that pmount is installed ... when i do a pmount-hal /dev/sdb1 it's working ... but I have to mount it manually ... it's not automounting again :/
[10:27] <GreySim> !tell me about pmount
[10:27] <GreySim> Doh.  Don't mind me.  Was just curious.  Too bad ubotu didn't know.
[10:27] <eobanb> !info pmount
[10:27] <ubotu> pmount: (mount removable devices as normal user), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.5-0ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 608 kB
[10:38] <magnetism> why does evolution not work with junk filtering pop accounts?
[10:38] <jita> does ubuntu use autofs to mount the cdrom automatically?
[10:40] <blakcheez> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:40] <blakcheez>   locales
[10:41] <blakcheez> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:41] <blakcheez> what's that mean?
[10:43] <blakcheez> 'ello?
[10:43] <GreySim> blakcheez, I've had that happen before, and I don't know what the causes are, but I think a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' have always fixed it, but I could be wrong, and it might not apply to your situation either.  :|
[10:44] <GreySim> And you might not want to update anyway, just to fix that one package that's not installing...  Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
[10:44] <blakcheez> that's ok
[10:45] <blakcheez> it's just a real pain in the a$$ that it shows up for most everything I try to update/install
[10:45] <GreySim> Whoa.  Something sounds seriously wrong, then, IMO.
[10:45] <zbyte> i'm still up and running!
[10:45] <GreySim> Are you only using official repos, or have you added any?
[10:46] <blakcheez> only using officials as far as i know
[10:46] <zbyte> uptime 2 days 2hrs
[10:46] <blakcheez> lemme check
[10:46] <GreySim> blakcheez, Breezy?  Dapper?  What arcitecture (if you know)?
[10:46] <blakcheez> Breezy
[10:46] <blakcheez> i386
[10:47] <GreySim> blakcheez, I dunno where to go from there, but something sounds seriously wrong.  It *might* in some way be related to why gdmsetup didn't work from the menu earlier too.
[10:49] <blakcheez> GreySim, what I did was dl'd the net install iso from the site and burned it on a CD, but just recently got my ShipIt CDs.  You think I should use one of those and repair from there?
[10:49] <GreySim> blakcheez, if it's not an inconvienence to do so, maybe, yes.
[10:49] <claes> blakcheez, What if you try: sudo aptitude reinstall locales
[10:50] <GreySim> Nothing to lose, possibly much to gain.  Or more knowledgable people can step in and help.  :D
[10:50] <blakcheez> exit status 4
[10:50] <blakcheez> something about a post-installation script
[10:51] <_pooh> Hello! I'm trying to customize a live cd based on ubuntu live, but the problem is that I can't change anything related to the user since the user is created during the boot... can anyone help me ?
[10:52] <claes> blakcheez, Thoose are stored in /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[10:53] <visik7> ok in breezy framebuffer boot at 1024x768, installed dapper from scratch and now boot at 640x480 I've added vga=791 but when I've a kernel update it fallback to 640
[10:53] <claes> blakcheez, Could be locales.postinst that makes something strange
[10:53] <visik7> any way to fix this ?
[10:54] <Ng> visik7: if you want kernel options to be applied across upgrades there's a "kopt" section of the grub menu.lst that the packages will notice and use
[10:55] <claes> visik7, Check /boot/grub/menu.lst   Change the line kopt to something like this: kopt=root=/dev/hda2 ro vga=792
[10:55] <GreySim> Anyone know how to tell which version of an Ubuntu CD is which from the files on the disk?  I know this is a 6.06 CD, but I don't know which Flight/RC it is...
[10:55] <visik7> thanks ng claes
[10:56] <blakcheez> Well, I'm in the file, but obviously I don't know what to look for.  as far as I can tell, nothing's wrong
[10:57] <visik7> do I have also to set quite splash ? or this 2 parameters are set indipendently ?
[10:57] <claes> blakcheez, I'm using dapper so I can't tell you what the file should look like. Sorry :-(
[10:57] <visik7> (for recovery mode
[10:57] <GreySim> Nevermind, I'll just label it Dapper Beta and hope I don't need it again before my ShipIt CDs arrive.  :)
[10:58] <spikeb> lol
[10:59] <blakcheez> i may have to use repair, but I don't know how to use that either
[10:59] <claes> visik7, the splash options is in the line defoptions=quiet splash
[11:00] <Belutz> blakcheez, have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[11:00] <claes> visik7, Recover mode options is in the line altoptions=(recovery mode) single
[11:00] <claes> blakcheez, Before recovery try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:00] <claes> Woops too slow.
[11:02] <blakcheez> locales is broken or not fully installed
[11:02] <Belutz> hmm
[11:02] <GreySim> Isn't there something like 'sudo apt-get install -r' or something for recovery or repair like that?  Or -a or something?
[11:03] <Belutz> yup, try to re-install it
[11:03] <claes> blakcheez, Which version of locales do you have?
[11:03] <magnetism> exit
[11:03] <blakcheez> i dunno what it is even
[11:04] <C_REATiVE_> re
[11:04] <claes> blakcheez, It's language specific stuff. Timezone handling and things like that.
[11:05] <blakcheez> still don't know which version.  how would I find out?
[11:06] <C_REATiVE_> how can i install w32 codecs inside chroot (for amd64) ?
[11:07] <blakcheez> i'll figure this crap out later.  gotta get some shut-eye.  been up all night trying to get this to work, but for the most part it's running fine.  Just this whole locales issue.  Thanks all for your help
[11:08] <Jaak_> is there a project for a graphical interface for xinerama
[11:10] <spikeb> Jaak_: im not aware of one
[11:11] <spikeb> Jaak_: some of the distributions' control panels can do it though, i think
[11:11] <mikomiko> i forgot my password, how do i reset it
[11:12] <Jaak_> strange that it is not a priority on the ubuntu todo list
[11:13] <spikeb> you can try and make it a priority :)
[11:16] <[A] j> can i ask sth about the mozilla?
[11:17] <Jaak_> maybe i can contribute and form a small project
[11:18] <spikeb> [A] j: you can
[11:18] <[A] j> i try to view a page on mozilla and i get this error : Alternate HTML content should be placed here.This content requires the Macromedia Flash Player.Get Flash
[11:18] <[A] j> but i have every plugin installed
[11:18] <[A] j> what cna i do?
[11:18] <[A] j> can*
[11:18] <visik7> maybe it require flash 8
[11:18] <[A] j> gr8
[11:19] <[A] j> what do i do now?
[11:19] <visik7> check another flash sie
[11:20] <visik7> site
[11:20] <visik7> give me the url
[11:20] <Jaak_> instal wine install windows firefox and install flash 8 for that
[11:20] <[A] j> yeap hold on
[11:20] <xukun> with apt-get dist-upgrade I get "The following packages have been kept back: Totem" How can I fix this?
[11:20] <visik7> xukun: apt-get install totem
[11:20] <[A] j> visik7, : http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[11:21] <[A] j> well the version it has there is Version:  	7,0,63,0
[11:21] <visik7> no this is the site where to get the version o flash
[11:21] <[A] j> where should i go then
[11:21] <visik7> I mean the site that say Alternate HTML content should be placed here.This content requires the Macromedia Flash Player.Get Flash
[11:22] <intelikey> someone know how to fix this error ?
[11:22] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  lilo
[11:22] <intelikey> Fatal: Bios device code 0x80 is being used by two disks
[11:22] <intelikey>         /dev/hda (0x0300)  and  /dev/sda (0x0800)
[11:22] <Jimmey__> !paste
[11:22] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[11:22] <intelikey> anyone ?
[11:23] <intelikey> no one  ?
[11:23] <GreySim> !patience
[11:23] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[11:23] <claes> intelikey, Do you have both ide and scsi disks in your machine?
[11:23] <intelikey> claes yes
[11:24] <mikomiko> I installed an updated mozilla and it is now asking me again to install java
[11:24] <mikomiko> how can i use my old java
[11:24] <Jimmey__> mikomiko, where did you install Java to?
[11:24] <intelikey> mikomiko symlink ?
[11:24] <mikomiko> i can no longer remember
[11:24] <mikomiko> i used the easyubuntu before
[11:24] <claes> intelikey, I would guess you have to fiddle with your Bios. As the error looks like a bios problem.
[11:25] <intelikey>  mikomiko find
[11:25] <intelikey> claes the bios is not the problem
[11:25] <intelikey> bios doesn't even see hd*
[11:25] <mikomiko> its on file:///home/mikomiko .jav
[11:25] <mikomiko> its on file:///home/mikomiko .java
[11:26] <claes> intelikey, Have you disabled the disks in bios?
[11:26] <intelikey> claes yes  didn't i just say that
[11:26] <Jimmey__> intelikey, you didn't
[11:27] <claes> intelikey, no you didn't.
[11:27] <[A] j> visik7, found anything?
[11:28] <intelikey> yes,  i did,   bios doesn't see disk = ???   ah disk not enabled in bios.....
[11:28] <claes> intelikey, Do you get anymore information when you run lilo with the verbose flag. lilo -v
[11:28] <intelikey> claes nope
[11:29] <xukun> visik7, that did the trick. I feel stupid. thanks a lot
[11:29] <claes> intelikey, To me it's a difference with "the bios don't see the disk" and "I have disabled the disks in bios"
[11:29] <C_REATiVE_> if i reinstall windows, then how can i restore the grub ?
[11:30] <Jimmey__> !grub
[11:30] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:30] <intelikey> claes ok.   we speak different languages.  fair enough.
[11:31] <eric> hay does anyone know what wacom would be in this: Section "InputDevice" Driver        "wacom" Identifier    "stylus" Option        "Device"        "/dev/wacom"
[11:32] <claes> intelikey, It isn't a Fasttrack controller? Do you use mirrored drives?
[11:32] <[A] j> anyone else has any idea?
[11:32] <Jimmey__> [A] j, what's the problem?
[11:32] <[A] j> Alternate HTML content should be placed here.This content requires the Macromedia Flash Player.Get Flash
[11:33] <intelikey> claes no
[11:33] <[A] j> this is when i try to open a page
[11:33] <claes> intelikey, A guess how to fix the problem. Add this to your /etc/lilo.conf  disk=/dev/hda (or what device you use to boot) and this: bios=0x80
[11:33] <Jimmey__> [A] j, http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[11:33] <intelikey> claes what's more, the same lilo.conf  installed befor the last update.
[11:34] <[A] j> Jimmey__, i have downloaded that
[11:34] <[A] j> and restarted mozilla
[11:34] <[A] j> and stil the same
[11:34] <Schalken> Wanda The Fish is a cruel bastard.
[11:35] <ompaul> !language
[11:35] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:35] <intelikey> there is a disk= line.  sda  (one would think if "bios doesn't see the drive" and "the drive is 'disabled' in bios"   it would be hard to use it for boot....)
[11:35] <Schalken> righto, sry
[11:36] <GreySim> Schalken, yes, indeed.  One day I will have a glorious meal of fishsticks, and my revenge will truly be delicious!
[11:36] <ompaul> intelikey, mixing sda and hda is not good, iirc you have to treat the hda as the primary drive
[11:36] <Schalken> GreySim: lol
[11:37] <freal> hey @ll
[11:37] <GreySim> (Wanda is a panel applet, right?)
[11:37] <webwolf_27> hi freal
[11:37] <[A] j> Jimmey__, any other ideaz?
[11:37] <Gluc> hi all how I install skype for my ubuntu ?
[11:37] <Soir> [A] j: apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[11:37] <intelikey> ompaul i never have had too
[11:37] <Schalken> GreySim: lol
[11:37] <Schalken> GreySim: yeah
[11:37] <markc> I have a strange netwrok issue with a fresh install of the i386 RC livecd on a newly renovated box... neither wireless or eth networking actually work... the interfaces come up and I can manually assign IPs etc but no amount of pinging or head banging with talk to anything on the other end of various wires or wireless points... is there something in the kernel stack (.proc) that should be turned on to allow basic networking to work perhaps
[11:38] <claes> intelikey, There is a disk line in /etc/lilo.conf that points to the device you want lilo on? And a bios line?
[11:38] <intelikey> ompaul it's this last update that broke it.
[11:38] <freal> i a problem with mmv i need a good howto
[11:38] <intelikey> claes yes
[11:38] <Soir> [A] j: assuming you have multiverse open in sources.list, anyway.
[11:38] <ompaul> intelikey, I have heard of it being an issue before now
[11:38] <[A] j> Soir, it tells me to install flashplugin-nonfree instead
[11:38] <[A] j> but i have that one installed
[11:38] <[A] j> and yes i have multiverse
[11:38] <Soir> [A] j: Oh, it's there? Hrm.
[11:38] <alan|laptop> hey all
[11:38] <alan|laptop> anyone here has ever been able to have an Artec DVB T1 card working with ubuntu ?
[11:39] <[A] j> i have upgraded to dapper 4 days ago lo
[11:39] <GreySim> In sources.list, the further down the list an entry is, the lower priority it is, right?
[11:39] <mikomiko> I keep getting authentication failure when during su command
[11:39] <[A] j> lol*
[11:39] <Gluc> what is command I install skype
[11:39] <Gluc> ?
[11:39] <mikomiko> but i am sure i got the right password
[11:40] <webwolf_27> Gluc, does it have to be skype??
[11:40] <dooglus> mikomiko: unless you have set a root password, you can't "su" to root
[11:40] <Gluc> no
[11:40] <Gluc> where I download skype for my ubuntu ?
[11:40] <dooglus> mikomiko: use "sudo" instead, and your own password
[11:40] <intelikey> ompaul hmmm ok.  but i've never had any problems with it, and it was working fine until the last update; and i added the latest kernel, and wanted to update lilo so i could boot the new kernel.  but alas that's the error i get.
[11:40] <mikomiko> ty
[11:40] <webwolf_27> gluc, there is much better supported software outthere
[11:40] <[A] j> Soir, now u understand why i am freeking out
[11:40] <Soir> [A] j: was that the first thing you installed? / have you been uninstalling other flash packages?
[11:41] <Gluc> >
[11:41] <Gluc> ?
[11:41] <[A] j> should i remove and reinstall that flashplugin-nonfree?
[11:41] <ompaul> intelikey, so /sbin/lilo does not do the business for you (why use lilo when its going out of fashion?
[11:41] <Gluc> say mirror please
[11:41] <dooglus> I was dragging an email from one folder to another in evolution.  I picked it up, dragged it, but now I can't let go of it!  any idea how to?
[11:41] <[A] j> Soir, they were installed
[11:41] <[A] j> i didnt install anythin
[11:41] <GreySim> dooglus, Escape?
[11:41] <intelikey> ompaul cause grub is useless on this setup
[11:41] <ompaul> !skype
[11:41] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[11:41] <Gluc> thanks !
[11:41] <ompaul> intelikey, :-) that was the point I made ;-)
[11:41] <mikomiko> Is there an easy way to reinstall java
[11:42] <intelikey> ompaul no you didn't
[11:42] <dooglus> GreySim: escape doesn't work, no.  I can't click on any other program in the taskbar either.  I can switch to a VC using ctrl-alt-F1 - that's how I'm able to type this
[11:42] <Soir> [A] j: well, I'd remove all the flash packages you aren't using, I'm not sure what having more than one would do, if anything.
[11:42] <claes> intelikey, What does the bios line in /etc/lilo.conf say?
[11:42] <intelikey> ompaul grub can't be used without a partition table.  has nothing to do with scsi or ide....
[11:42] <ompaul> intelikey, it was the one where I heard of the issues, for the pedant all of us then ;-)
[11:42] <GreySim> dooglus, sorry, no idea then.  My answer was just a stab in the dark.  :(
[11:43] <intelikey> claes 0x80
[11:44] <dooglus> GreySim: I guess killing the evolution process might fix it - but that might lose some data, I don't know.
[11:44] <claes> intelikey, That's disk number one. If you try to move it to disk number 2 that is 0x81 what happens then?
[11:45] <jamey> I have changed my DNS server in System  Administration  Networking but the DHCP changes it back every boot. How can I make it stay?
[11:45] <intelikey> try to move it ?   claes if i try to move what ?    install lilo to another disk ?
[11:45] <claes> intelikey, Seems like the bios and linux kernel numbers the disk different.
[11:46] <claes> intelikey, Some bios numbers the scisi devices first and then the linux kernel change this to number the ide first.
[11:47] <intelikey> claes the bios shouldn't be numbering the ide at all.
[11:48] <claes> intelikey, No it should not. But I have seen so much buggy bios code so I take nothing for granted.
[11:49] <Soir> jamey: Odd request, DHCP usually knows what nameservers it should be using... why would the two be different?
[11:49] <intelikey> claes yeah, let me try remaping the drives in the lilo.conf
[11:51] <intelikey> claes that got it.
[11:51] <aztun> hi
[11:51] <spope> I have changed my screen using xvidtune. Now, where do I add the changes, so I don't have to do it again?
[11:51] <aztun> are there new ubuntu isos on any ftp????
[11:52] <claes> intelikey, Well now I only hope that it will boot on that lilo. *keeping fingers crossed*
[11:52] <intelikey> claes      added addressing for both     disk=/dev/sda     bios=0x80      disk=/dev/hda        bios=0x81
[11:52] <intelikey> claes it will boot.
[11:52] <Soir> spope: ~/.xinitrc perchance
[11:53] <claes> intelikey, great. Now I can eat my lunch relaxed. :-)
[11:54] <fli7e> can somebody tell me where the syslog config file is? i need to set up one system to accept forwarded syslog events, and i need to set up another to accept them.
[11:54] <intelikey> claes it had been booting for years.   this is not a new hardware setup not is the first time linux has been used here.... it will boot.    but this is the first time i have ever had to hold lilo's hand to get it to update.
[11:54] <intelikey> claes yeah....   go eat.  and thanks for the thoughts...
[11:55] <njan> fli7e, /etc/syslog.conf?
[11:55] <fli7e> that's what i thought, but it doesnt seem to be there
[11:55] <fli7e> i think my problem lies elsewhere
[11:55] <njan> fli7e, that's where it is on my system :)
[11:55] <fli7e> just had to make sure im not going crazy
[11:56] <spope> Soir: hmm, doesn't look like something I recognize... On mandrake I just added the output to XF86Config, but that's nowhere to be found...
[11:57] <fli7e> lololol.... i figured it out
[11:57] <fli7e> im in a remote terminal
[11:57] <intelikey> spope xorg.conf
[11:57] <fli7e> this isnt my system im looking at, thats why its not here
[11:57] <fli7e> i need to sleep
[11:58] <intelikey> spope ubuntu uses xorg  not XFree
[11:58] <njan> fli7e, sudo grep -rI syslog /etc/* 2> /dev/null |awk '{ print $1 }' |uniq |more
[11:58] <njan> fli7e, ah :)
[11:58] <spope> thanks
[11:59] <Soir> oh, xvidtune is interactive.. ok ^^
[11:59] <intelikey> njan   more ?
[12:00] <njan> intelikey, yes, more
[12:00] <intelikey> njan   ever heard of less ?
[12:00] <Schalken> is there any gtk gui maker, like visual basic?
[12:00] <njan> intelikey, yes.
[12:00] <intelikey> more stinks
[12:00] <njan> intelikey, more does what I want it to.
[12:00] <visik7> Schalken: glide
[12:00] <fli7e> intelikey, depends on what you're doing with it
[12:01] <Schalken> visik7: thnx
[12:01] <intelikey> fli7e what can more do better than less ?
[12:01] <Soir> everything has its purpose, remember
[12:02] <veriz> could someone tell me how i can look other ppl groups?
[12:02] <intelikey> less is more than more.       cause more is less than less...  ya know?
[12:02] <veriz> or how I can check?
[12:02] <njan> intelikey, less is 3x the size of more. If you're not using the extra functionality in less (and I don't), why be less efficient?
[12:02] <njan> intelikey, if I want anything more complex than more, I generally opt for tee.
[12:03] <shriphani> how do i play mp4 in totem movie player
[12:03] <fli7e> and there you have it
[12:03] <njan> :)
[12:03] <Ng> !tell shriphani about RestrictedFormats
[12:03] <shriphani> anyone ?
[12:04] <intelikey> njan you don't like smooth scrooling  or the ability to backup ?    and what about the search functions ?     but anyway  this is offtopic.
[12:04] <njan> linux isn't a one-size-fits-all world. One of the nice things about open source and free software is that we can all choose whatever fits us best. I choose KDE, Evolution, more, and vim. :P
[12:04] <Schalken> shriphani doen the restricted formats stuff?
[12:04] <Schalken> done*
[12:04] <njan> intelikey, like I said, I don't use that functionality, whenever I want anything more complex I tee it into a file to start with.
[12:04] <shriphani> yeh
[12:04] <njan> Soir, :P
[12:04] <fli7e> intelikey, it's about whether or not you actually need smooth scrolling, search functions, or the ability to back up
[12:04] <visik7> does dapper has an installer for dm-crypt ?
[12:05] <Schalken> shriphani: well, thats all i got :p
[12:05] <intelikey> hehhe and tee it into a file..... lol you said less was less effecient
[12:05] <Soir> and my laptop runs E :O
[12:05] <opti> I use what ever I like to use
[12:06] <H080J03> hmm if i wanted to try out the XFCE desktop, could i just indtall it, and then boot up into it?
[12:06] <cronbsd> yup
[12:06] <opti> now I use my sneaker while Im going out with my dog, cu
[12:06] <fli7e> efficient in terms of doing what you need it to and nothing more, i think he meant
[12:06] <Soir> H080J03: that's about the idea, yes
[12:06] <fli7e> or she
[12:06] <H080J03> sweet
[12:06] <cronbsd> xfce is always unstable for me
[12:06] <njan> intelikey, if less works for you, great. It doesn't for me. Embrace diversity. :)
[12:06] <veriz> Could someone tell me how I can check user group?
[12:06] <H080J03> hmm i have never treid it
[12:06] <cronbsd> H08- try it out and try to use the program "notes" see if it crashes on you like it always does for me
[12:06] <Seveas> veriz, id
[12:07] <intelikey> i didn't ask if you liked it njan just asked why you sujested it.  but lets drop that now. k
[12:07] <veriz> Seveas: thnx
[12:08] <koasd> anyone here get dapper installed?
[12:08] <njan> intelikey, and then criticised my use of more, which is why I tried to explain to you why my way of doing things works for my usage pattern. but agreed, it's not productive. :)
[12:08] <Soir> I do
[12:08] <intelikey> koasd yes
[12:08] <H080J03> i got it
[12:09] <intelikey> njan criticised ?    no.   unless you were also criticising my dislike of more.... but i don't thinks either of us were.
[12:09] <H080J03> ok i am installing all of the sfce files
[12:09] <H080J03> xfce*
[12:10] <koasd> is it great?
[12:10] <intelikey> koasd no
[12:10] <H080J03> once it installs how i tell ubuntu to load up sfce instead of gnome?
[12:10] <Soir> No problems over here
[12:10] <njan> intelikey more stinks
[12:10] <intelikey> it's good,  it's linux.    but great.   no.  it's not great.
[12:10] <Ng> H080J03: when you go to log in, there are some options to pick which kind of session you want - xfce will be listed
[12:10] <Soir> H080J03: do you use gdm?
[12:10] <njan> sounds critical to me. Anyhow, I suggest we drop it :)
[12:11] <koasd> i am waiting for stable release
[12:11] <H080J03> gdm is....
[12:11] <koasd> gnome desktop manager
[12:11] <H080J03> koasd drapper is very very stable
[12:11] <Ng> koasd: gnome display manager
[12:11] <intelikey> njan yes. more stinks.   has nothing to do with whether you use it or not.      did you write the app?
[12:11] <Soir> if you haven't changed your opening screen, the answer's probably yes and you'll be able to select it in session when you start up
[12:11] <H080J03> yes i use gnome
[12:12] <H080J03> hmm
[12:12] <Ng> intelikey: #ubuntu-offtopic might be a better place to discuss the technical merits of more ;)
[12:12] <koasd> gnome is stable
[12:12] <Soir> gnome makes my 400mhz celeron cry
[12:12] <intelikey> Ng yes, there just doesn't seem to be a stoping place.....    :/
[12:12] <Soir> weeping computers are not a pretty sight
[12:12] <koasd> why?
[12:12] <spope> intellikey: i added the output from xvidtune to xorg.conf - that didn't work. The display manager wouldn't start.
[12:12] <DarkTower> less is more
[12:13] <Ng> intelikey: yes there does, right now ;)
[12:14] <fanen> hmmm
[12:14] <fanen> :)
[12:14] <intelikey> spope sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:14] <fanen> this feels wierd!
[12:14] <intelikey> DarkTower :)
[12:15] <spope> intelikey: thanks, I'll try it.
[12:15] <fanen> wow...
[12:15] <chrisbudden14> i use firefox from /opt/firefox and need to use /etc/firefox/firefoxrc to sort out flash sound, is this possible?
[12:16] <intelikey> spope that will walk you through a reconfig,  that's the 'official' way to config xorg.
[12:16] <fanen> "can i copy installed ubuntu packages and install them on another pc?"
[12:16] <intelikey> fanen yes.
[12:16] <njan> fanen, you can copy the .deb files, yes
[12:16] <fanen> how,
[12:16] <fanen> where are they loocated?
[12:16] <Ng> fanen: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:16] <njan> fanen, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:17] <Soir> spope: Take your output from xvidtune, add 'Modeline' at the front of it, and put it in the Monitor section of xorg.conf. Assuming you're moving your screen position, which reconfig won't do (I think)
[12:17] <KenSentMe_> i'm following this howto http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html to install my Hauppauge WinTV 150 and MythTV on ubuntu. I have to copy some firmware files to /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware but that folder does not excist. Should it?
[12:17] <intelikey> fanen the packages are dl'd to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:17] <fanen> a moment.
[12:17] <intelikey> copy from there
[12:18] <fanen> there now.
[12:18] <njan> fanen, then on the destination machine you can dpkg -i ./some-deb-file.deb
[12:18] <intelikey> Soir oh, is that just a slide over ?     i missed that.
[12:18] <fanen> there's a folder "partial", two deb files, and one "lock" file
[12:18] <intelikey> isn't there an app for that.
[12:19] <fanen> intel?
[12:19] <fanen> what app??
[12:19] <intelikey> fanen the partial/  leave it out.  anything in there is broke anyway.
[12:19] <njan> fanen, then you're going to have to download the .deb files again if the two that are there aren't the ones you want.
[12:20] <fanen> the previous ones were deleted?
[12:20] <propagandhi> does anyone know how to detect spaces in bash script variables
[12:20] <fanen> i thought apt would cache them...
[12:20] <Ng> fanen: it should do, but it probably cleans up after itself after a while
[12:20] <intelikey> fanen yeah   if you run apt-get clean  or  synaptic [click]  clean    they were rm's
[12:21] <fanen> can i disable the cleaning?
[12:21] <fanen> i want every deb for every package i install to be left intact...
[12:21] <intelikey> i always cp after dl fanen,   so i don't have to dl again.  (dial-up)
[12:22] <fanen> hmmm
[12:22] <koasd> application
[12:22] <fanen> that's quite a requirement...
[12:22] <Ng> fanen: if you have several machines to keep up to date, you might want to look at using something like apt-proxy
[12:22] <aztun> hi all........is there any ftp where I can download the dapper stable release today??
[12:22] <njan> fanen, /etc/cron.daily/apt cleans automagically
[12:23] <Ng> aztun: it's not released until thursday, so no
[12:23] <fanen> oh, i need to edit it??
[12:23] <njan> if you prevent that cron script from running or remove the bits you don't want, you could prevent that.
[12:23] <aztun> Ng: some distros put the iso on ftp the day before
[12:23] <aztun> thats why Im asking
[12:23] <njan> fanen, more /etc/cron.daily/apt (intelikey, :P)
[12:23] <aztun> maybe im lucky
[12:23] <aztun> :)
[12:23] <intelikey> fanen set cron to mv rather than rm the files  :)
[12:23] <Ng> aztun: nope
[12:23] <fanen> ok...oh
[12:24] <fanen> i have no idea what's in there!!!
[12:24] <fanen> "cron.daily/apt
[12:25] <intelikey> yep   one would assume
[12:25] <fanen> there's "rm" on line 100...
[12:25] <fanen> would it be a bad idea if i were to replace all "rm" with "mv" with a search and replace?
[12:26] <njan> yes
[12:26] <Ng> fanen: edit /etc/apt/apt.conf and put in two lines, one with "APT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval=0" and the other with "APT::Archives::MaxAge=0". you can also put in "APT::Archives::MaxSize=0" if you want too (don't include the quotes on any of the lines)
[12:26] <njan> because it wouldn't work.
[12:26] <Ng> fanen: those variables are documented in that cron.daily/apt script
[12:26] <fanen> lookin now...
[12:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there, i was wondering if you can help me.. i have a wireless router where i am the only client. When i use Ktorrent or other p2p even though the connection band is not completely used at all (50kb/s in average) when i try to use http there's an incredibly high lag time and packet loss. Do you know how to increase the priority of HTTP packets in order to improve my situation?
[12:27] <koasd> which browser do you use?
[12:28] <suicida> i've got a problem with my system (6.06 LTS). since a few weeks i'm not able to shutdown or restart it. the only way is "sudo shutdown -r now". in the menu i just can logout and hibernate, the entrys for shutdown and restart are just missing. does anybody know what to do?
[12:29] <intelikey> fanen in the check age   section of  /etc/cron.daily/apt   the rm -f     to something like  mv /root/tmp       i'm not sure that will work that way.  i'll test it.
[12:29] <fanen> ng: done the edit /etc/apt/apt.conf
[12:29] <Quintok> where is sun-java5-jre in the packages? multi or uni?
[12:29] <fanen> are my problems solved?
[12:29] <njan> intelikey, he'd be better off using the documented way within the script, rather than editing the script.
[12:29] <fanen> intel: will "mv /home/fanen/debs" do?
[12:30] <njan> fanen, don't edit the script, read what Ng said and change the script the documented way.
[12:30] <fanen> i've done what ng said.
[12:30] <fanen> is that all i need to do?
[12:31] <njan> yes, that should prevent the bits of the script that do the rm -rf from running, if you've set those to 0.
[12:31] <intelikey> njan  i don't see a "documented" way in the script i have....   ?
[12:31] <njan> intelikey, it's right at the top
[12:31] <njan> Set maximum allowed age of a cache package file. If a cache package file is older it is deleted (0=disable)
[12:31] <jamey> I have changed my DNS server in System  Administration  Networking but the DHCP changes it back every boot. How can I make it stay?
[12:32] <Gluc> hoLA
[12:33] <intelikey> njan all i see is a way to disable the cleaning,  is that what you are talking about ?     that doesn't move them out of the cache dir  or prevent a click in synaptic from rm'ing them.
[12:33] <njan> It doesn't prevent you from doing it in synaptic, but editing the script wouldn't either, and no, it doesn't move them out of thec ache dir.
[12:33] <njan> If you leave them in thec ache dir, apt knows where they are.
[12:33] <njan> so you can perform install/uninstall operations on the packages without having to know how to use dpkg -i.
[12:33] <njan> s/dpkg -i/dpkg/
[12:34] <fanen> i will assume they won't be deleted anymore?
[12:34] <duff> hi
[12:34] <fanen> i don't care where they reside... i just want to be able to copy them out, give them to someone who doesn't have net access, and let them install
[12:34] <njan> fanen, that looks how the script should behave, yes.
[12:35] <intelikey> apt doesn't need them to uninstall.
[12:35] <njan> intelikey, I know, but you know what I mean.
[12:35] <Ng> jamey: I believe you can do that by editing /etc/dhclient.conf and inserting something like: supercede domain-name-servers "123.123.123.123 234.234.234.234"   (where those numbers are your required DNS servers)
[12:35] <Afief> I need a WYSIWYG editor for html, something like Frontpage, where can i find that?
[12:35] <fanen> alright.
[12:35] <Hmmmm> Afief, try nvu.com
[12:36] <Hmmmm> Afief, or mizilla ocmposer
[12:36] <Afief> Hmmm: i thought that program is obsolate, there haven't been updates for almost a year
[12:36] <Hmmmm> er,mozilla composer
[12:36] <nutterpc> far out
[12:36] <nutterpc> 0_0
[12:36] <nutterpc> didn't take Ubuntu long to recognise my usb logitech headphones
[12:36] <fanen> O-O
[12:37] <Hmmmm> Afief, these two programs are the best (and prolly only) apps for wysiwyg web stuff
[12:37] <nutterpc> bass is goooood
[12:37] <njan> intelikey, and then they'd be broken when you upgraded and you'd have to figure out how to fix them again
[12:37] <Afief> Hmmm: any idea why no one updates Nvu?
[12:37] <intelikey> broken ?
[12:37] <Ng> intelikey: until the next apt update, then your changes will be lost. configuration options are always preferable to hacking package owned scripts
[12:38] <njan> intelikey, as opposed to editing the settings which might be noticed by the configure script for the package that provides them, and which shouldn't change version-version
[12:38] <njan> intelikey, your script will get replaced when you upgrade
[12:38] <Hmmmm> Afief, nope. no idea. maybe coz linspire sucks so much... but no real idea
[12:38] <nutterpc> bass is good, thumping bass that caves in ur head is even better ^_^
[12:38] <jamey> Ng, thank you I've made the change and I'll see if it works on next boot up
[12:39] <intelikey> njan dpkg notices altered config files and askes if you want to keep your file or install the package maintainers version.....
[12:39] <njan> intelikey, not in ubuntu it doesn't.
[12:39] <njan> A lot of system scripts just get overwritten.
[12:39] <DBO> yes it does
[12:39] <intelikey> it does too
[12:39] <njan> It doesn't, I've edited a bunch of system scripts on several machines and had them all replaced by dpkg.
[12:39] <intelikey> i just upgraded from hoary to dapper and it asked on every thing i had altered.
[12:40] <Ng> it may well depend on how you update your packages, but I'm not sure
[12:40] <njan> I haven't upgraded to dapper yet, but over the course of apt-get upgrading hoary, I've had a few replaced.
[12:40] <Hobbsee> i believe it's controlled by the debconf settings.
[12:41] <intelikey> Hobbsee probably
[12:41] <khaije> hello everyone....!
[12:41] <Soir> Hello. ^^
[12:41] <Ng> intelikey: your point is slightly valid and in this case that cron script is indeed marked as a config file, but you are still then forking it and would have to inspect the diff against the new version and possibly patch in any changes. config options still win ;)
[12:41] <njan> Ng's right, though, the supported option wins :)
[12:41] <Samus_Aran> hello.  I was doing a house-call the other day to help someone with a few computer problems, and she had Ubuntu installed.  I have used Debian a lot in the past, but had not tried Ubuntu yet, it was quite impressive =)
[12:42] <khaije> anyone know if there are any specific package dependencies for x-forwarding?
[12:43] <Ng> khaije: as in running an x application over lan/ssh, or running a complete, remote X session?
[12:43] <ranpha> Does somebody have MYSQL 5.0 working under ubuntu 6.06???
[12:43] <ranpha> wrong channel sorry
[12:44] <njan> Samus_Aran, glad you liked it ;)
[12:44] <Samus_Aran> I'm using Arch Linux currently, and Slackware for years before that.  I like the package manager, smooth boot process, auto-updater and huge package repos ... but was bothered at the lack of root user, as I always use GNU Screen, and have one session open as root user for maintenance
[12:44] <khaije> Ng: i have adjusted/verified sshd_config, command line options, xhost, etc... this used to work w/o any extra intervention on my part before i reinstalled
[12:44] <vinboy> how do I view my kernel log?
[12:44] <intelikey> ng ok.  if you show the moving of the files to a safe place.  then you are right.    but if all you do is set that option to 0    it doesn't achieve what was asked for.  it would require a manual file move every few days.   or you would loose the whole load on somebodies miss-click  or following a wiki that says clean the cache.
[12:44] <Samus_Aran> other than the lack of root login thing, I think I would be ready to switch
[12:44] <njan> Samus_Aran, 'sudo -s' or 'sudo /bin/bash' gives you a root console.
[12:44] <Ng> vinboy: /var/log/dmesg to see the boot messages, or "dmesg | tail" to see the most recent few
[12:44] <Samus_Aran> Arch Linux has been pissing me off a lot lately, heh
[12:44] <khaije> Ng: either one, they are logicaly identical arent they. but specifically i've just been trying to use specific apps
[12:45] <vinboy> thx Ng
[12:45] <Ng> intelikey: on a single user computer that's not really going to be an issue and could easily be handled by a one line cron entry to move the files out
[12:45] <njan> intelikey, again though it requires specific action to remove the files, specific action which if you *know* you're keeping the files for a reason, you're unlikely to take.
[12:45] <njan> and yeah, another cron would fix that without a problem.
[12:45] <Ng> khaije: they're not really the same, but that's not important right now. what happens when you try to run an application from the ssh session?
[12:46] <Ng> !tell Samus_Aran about root
[12:46] <Samus_Aran> does Ubuntu have any issues installing both KDE and Gnome ?  I noticed that the install the person had done on her computer was entirely Gnome-centric, which I assume that is what Kubuntu is about, but I'm curious if there are any issues installing all the KDE packages as well
[12:46] <intelikey> as far as 'another cron  if you do that no need to even change anything.  just have it move them out pre-exec of that one.
[12:46] <intelikey> :)
[12:46] <njan> Samus_Aran, yes, KDE creates a .gtkrc file in your home directory that forces gtk to have certain settings to tie it in with qt when you're in KDe.
[12:46] <Ng> Samus_Aran: kubuntu is KDE, but you can have both installed on either Ubuntu or KUbuntu (the only difference afaik is the default package installation)
[12:46] <vinboy> Ng: are there more detail logs? bcoz i can't find the msg i saw n the dmesg file
[12:47] <njan> Samus_Aran, and that makes gnome go fairly strange. but if you remove that, no, there's no issue with having both insatlled.
[12:47] <Ng> vinboy: /var/log/syslog will probably have a lot of it too
[12:47] <KidVulcan1> when my GUI opens, the sound plays and the screen looks like this |||||| <-
[12:47] <KidVulcan1> ...wth?
[12:47] <Samus_Aran> Ng: I read that page when I was over there to install the programs on her computer, before realising there was no root login I chrooted in from the install CD and changed the root password, heh
[12:47] <intelikey> KidVulcan1 misconfigured xorg.conf
[12:47] <khaije> Ng: it gives an error that says that it can't open display, the DISPLAY envar is not being set automatically, and manually setting it results in the same thing
[12:48] <KidVulcan1> it's off the live disc
[12:48] <Samus_Aran> after it still didn't let me log in as root, I presumed it was distro specific and went to the wiki, heh
[12:48] <njan> Samus_Aran, you can enable the root user for login - but tbh, it isn't an issue really, once you get used to it
[12:48] <njan> Samus_Aran, I found it a bit strange at first, but it's fine after a couple of weeks.
[12:48] <njan> Samus_Aran, I find myself installing sudo on all my debian systems :)
[12:49] <intelikey> KidVulcan1 sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    and be sure you set the monitor correcty when asked.
[12:49] <Ng> khaije: hmm, try adding -X and a few -v's to the ssh to get it to spit out some debugging - it might reveal a problem
[12:49] <hmrocha> hello, how can i order more that 10 cd's from shipit?
[12:49] <KidVulcan1> eh?
[12:49] <intelikey> KidVulcan1 i think the live uses  vesa,   you don't really want that.  disable it when asked.
[12:50] <KidVulcan1> hmrocha, by ordering one and burning 9
[12:50] <Ng> hmrocha: read the FAQ ;)
[12:50] <khaije> Ng: btw this worked before, but hasn't since  reinstalled ubuntu, i did a server (minimal) install and then added kubuntu afterwards, this is the only conspicuous difference in the way i set it up that comes to mind, could this be a factor?
[12:50] <Soir> snrk
[12:50] <KidVulcan1> or however many you want
[12:50] <Samus_Aran> njan: I do like the idea of sudo for all casual and intermediate users, it lessens the chance of mistakes somewhat, and makes people more aware of whether they are specifically doing and administrative command or not ... e.g. it can be easy to miss a plain Bash prompt being root on many systems
[12:50] <khaije> Ng: will do :-)
[12:50] <njan> Samus_Aran, indeed. As long as you don't tell them about sudo -s :)
[12:50] <Ng> khaije: I would have thought that installing kubuntu would easily have enough dependencies to make X forwarding work
[12:50] <Soir> khaije: afaik that's how kubuntu installs anyway
[12:50] <Samus_Aran> njan: however for me, I always have root screens open in GNU Screen, which various tasks going on.  for example I always have my xorg.conf file open in Vim, as I do a ton of tweaking
[12:51] <njan> Samus_Aran, not a problem - just sudo -s on a terminal and then run screen.
[12:51] <hmrocha> Ng: thanks, i've found the answer :)
[12:51] <njan> Samus_Aran, you only have to do it once.
[12:51] <Samus_Aran> njan: I have multiseat working now, it is really nice not having the family fighting over one computer
[12:51] <KidVulcan1> khaije, it asks me what resolution i want to run at, but i've tried 1024x768 and 800x600..
[12:52] <Samus_Aran> picked up a cheap 21" monitor and already had a USB keyboard and mouse.  the only expense was a $40 nVIDIA MX-4000 PCI card to add the second desktop
[12:52] <whl> how add new fonts
[12:52] <njan> Samus_Aran, cool. I've never been brave enough to try multiseating a PC like that ;)
[12:53] <njan> Samus_Aran, the fact that I have no shortage of PCs doesn't help..
[12:53] <intelikey> !fonts
[12:53] <ubotu> methinks fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[12:53] <Samus_Aran> njan: one thing I couldn't figure out: how do you modify the menu entries in Gnome ?  I tried for a few minutes, but couldn't get it.  wanted to make tuxpaint do --fullscreen
[12:53] <Samus_Aran> ended up adding an icon for it on her desktop
[12:53] <njan> Samus_Aran, run smeg
[12:54] <whl> ubotu,thk
[12:54] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, whl
[12:54] <Samus_Aran> njan: once we get a bit more money, we'll be buying an LCD to add a third seat to it (the desk can't fit another large monitor !)
[12:54] <khaije> Ng: i'll put the output on the paster in a moment, thx for your advisement
[12:54] <Samus_Aran> njan: I hope that big distros like Ubuntu and Fedora Core start pushing multiseat during the distro install, as it works so well now in Xorg 7.x and kernel 2.6.x
[12:55] <Soir> well, one out of two isn't bad ;)
[12:55] <njan> Samus_Aran, if anything I'd think edubuntu might grab it, but I doubt there's a massive demand for it, even though it is quite cool.
[12:55] <Samus_Aran> njan: it used to be downright painful to get it going, kernel patches and XFree86 hacks and a ton of luck.  now the 2.6 kernel has no problems handling multiple keyboards
[12:55] <njan> Samus_Aran, it would be a nice feature to have configurable though
[12:56] <Samus_Aran> njan: now all you have to do is change the mouse and keyboard devices to use "evdev" instead of kbd or mouse, find the appropriate /dev/input/event* item for it, and then add two options to the X command line
[12:57] <njan> Samus_Aran, groovy.
[12:57] <Plugster> hi, i'm trying to find a list of what is included in the 6.06 server release... can't find it on the webpage
[12:57] <njan> Samus_Aran, well, I'm sure someone would appreciate you seeing if it works fine in dapper and writing a brief howto 0:)
[12:57] <Samus_Aran> njan: on my current Athlon XP 3000+ it is almost never noticeable that someone else is using their own desktop, even when playing a 3D game
[12:58] <Samus_Aran> and any dual-core 64bit setup would be super smooth
[12:58] <khaije> Ng: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14853
[12:58] <chamo> hello
[12:59] <chamo> when I create a PS file, I cannot search it, how can I "activate" or search in a PS file ?
[12:59] <intelikey> KidVulcan1 i sujest you make sure you know the v-refresh and h-sync rates of your monitor.    some have it stamped on the back   some provide that info in the 'owners manual' that comes with the hardware.   if neither apply to you.  try searching at  http://www.monitorworld.com     the most common xorg failure is the failure to input the proper v/h rates.
[12:59] <Samus_Aran> njan: how is the root login disabled in Ubuntu, do you know ?  is it just a /bin/true shell in /etc/passwd, or is there a ~root/.bash_login that logs it out, or what ?
[01:00] <intelikey> Samus_Aran it's   passwd -l
[01:00] <intelikey> Samus_Aran man passwd
[01:00] <Samus_Aran> intelikey: ah, okay
[01:00] <Samus_Aran> thanks
[01:01] <Samus_Aran> but why did it not let me log in after I forcibly created a root password on her system ?
[01:02] <intelikey> what fs is initramfs.img  ?   cramfs doesn't mount ?
[01:03] <khaije> KidVulcan1: did you see intelikey's response?
[01:03] <KidVulcan1> yeah
[01:03] <intelikey> the old initrd.img's were cram,   anyone know about the initramfs.img's  ?
[01:03] <KidVulcan1> thanks
[01:03] <KidVulcan1> brb
[01:03] <pelele> hi, i am try record DVDRW from my terminal, but say me This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command
[01:04] <njan> intelikey, http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=101095500820185&w=2
[01:04] <intelikey> Samus_Aran remote login is also restricted in /etc/security/access.conf    amoung others
[01:05] <Samus_Aran> intelikey: same on Arch Linux.  I like it that way =)
[01:05] <void^> intelikey: cpio archive
[01:05] <Samus_Aran> is it easy to update the bootsplash image on Ubuntu ?
[01:06] <intelikey> void^  ?
[01:06] <pelele> help me please
[01:06] <BadManNx> i have a question
[01:07] <rosemary> what is command for remaining hard ddisk space please
[01:07] <BadManNx> what's the name of gtk2 devel package?
[01:07] <void^> intelikey: initramfs uses cpio archives.
[01:07] <intelikey> rosemary df
[01:07] <intelikey> void^ ah  ok.
[01:07] <Ng> rosemary: df -h prints nicely readable values
[01:07] <njan> intelikey, the link I pasted you did explain that in some depth ;P
[01:08] <BadManNx> so what's the package of gtk2 devel?
[01:08] <intelikey> njan yes.  i had to install a cli web browser befor i can see that link
[01:08] <Ng> BadManNx: libgtk2.0-dev
[01:08] <njan> intelikey, does less not have that built in? :p
[01:08] <BadManNx> thx Ng
[01:08] <khaije> Ng: or anyone else really... does the output here (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14853) reveal anything? It looks like #123 is the only relevant line :-/
[01:09] <Ng> khaije: yeah I was just looking at that - I don't see any problems :/
[01:09] <voody>  '<
[01:09] <rosemary> intelikey, Ng thanks
[01:09] <njan> intelikey, sorry, I shouldn't tease 0:)
[01:10] <intelikey> njan lol  yes in fact it does...
[01:11] <khaije> Ng: i can tell this is a rare problem because there is no mention of it anywhere... i've already purged and reinstalled the server and client.
[01:11] <rossjamesparker> Hello everyone
[01:12] <khaije> Ng: i really don't want to reinstall my whole system for this small non-debilitating error, but it's hard for the me to see a clear angle of attack...
[01:12] <rosemary> Ng, thanks that's what I needed - old PC and only 3.2 G HD
[01:12] <Samus_Aran> can someone suggest which version of Ubuntu should I be downloading ?
[01:13] <njan> Samus_Aran, I'd wait until thursday and install dapper
[01:13] <njan> Samus_Aran, or install a pre-release and just upgrade the few packages that are released extra.
[01:13] <Samus_Aran> I think I will give it a try.  I just reinstalled Arch Linux a few days ago, so now's about the best time, before I have migrated my preferences back to /etc and so on
[01:13] <njan> Samus_Aran, there's no point in installing a version of ubuntu which is being wholly replaced in a couple of days time :)
[01:13] <rosemary> so if I have 6.06 can I upgrade?
[01:13] <Samus_Aran> njan: ah
[01:14] <ompaul> rosemary, that is the upgrade just keep taking the patches
[01:14] <njan> Samus_Aran, if you're happy running a version that isn't officially stable until thursday, just go with dapper..
[01:14] <Samus_Aran> njan: so does the pre-release have the same installer as the final ?
[01:14] <intelikey> what's this error all about ?   Cannot find /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-23-386
[01:14] <intelikey> dpkg: error processing udev (--configure):
[01:14] <njan> Samus_Aran, I'm not sure what (if any) problems you'd run into, #ubuntu+1 might be able to tell you
[01:14] <ompaul> rosemary, 6.06 is not realeased
[01:14] <BadManNx> Ng, the libxml-dev package?
[01:14] <njan> Samus_Aran, at this point, yes. there will only be very minor changes being made between now and thursday
[01:14] <rosemary> ompaul, okay - I thought it was beta wondered if I needed to do a new install - great that I don't
[01:15] <Ng> BadManNx: or libxml2-dev
[01:15] <intelikey> is there supposed to be a symlink there or something ?
[01:15] <Ng> intelikey: at a guess I'd say that's mkinitrd being called incorrectly, but it's hard to say without knowing what trigered it
[01:15] <alth> Hmm. Fluxbox looks smooth.
[01:15] <ompaul> rosemary, no you just update, there was an update recently which needed a dist-upgrade to take on the new parts but other than that its all rocking (at least what I have seen)
[01:15] <crazy_penguin> hello everybody.
[01:15] <intelikey> ng its a dpkg error
[01:15] <McScruff> hi, i just installed vmware, but i cant run vmware unless i sudo vmware, how can i change this?
[01:16] <intelikey> ng apt-get actually
[01:16] <EmxBA> crazy_penguin:hi
[01:16] <rosemary> ompaul, no 6.06 is not released, but dose what you say about running updates make it current when stable released
[01:16] <EmxBA> does anyone remember me from last night :D
[01:16] <Ng> intelikey: that's quite strange. perhaps it's a bug
[01:16] <intelikey> ng why would udev be making a new initramfs.img ?
[01:16] <BadManNx> Ng, thx dude
[01:16] <intelikey> ng yes  maybe.
[01:17] <EmxBA> intelikey: hi man
[01:18] <fli7e> can someone explain to me the difference between runlevel s and runlevel 1? from what i have always understood, they are more or less the same
[01:18] <idanimrod> hello, anyway to create different profiles for Epiphany? like in FF?
[01:18] <intelikey> EmxBA hey
[01:18] <EmxBA> runlevel s?
[01:18] <fli7e> single user mode
[01:18] <EmxBA> intelikey: hi man
[01:18] <pkh> can someone help with hpdj710c printer configuration?
[01:19] <crazy_penguin> fli7e: s level in system initialization level at boot. 1 is single user level. :)
[01:20] <vox_> hi
[01:20] <intelikey> fli7e in ubuntu 2-5 are =  but 1 is single user mode   i.e.  sulogin  for system repairs.    0 is halt and 6 is reboot.    on some systems 2-3/4 are cli mode configs and 4/5 are gui
[01:20] <vox_> i have a problem downloading
[01:20] <fli7e> crazy_penguin, so S is completely noninteractive?
[01:21] <vox_> i get an xml parsing error
[01:21] <crazy_penguin> yes
[01:21] <EmxBA> fli7e: intelikey told you everything :D
[01:21] <Jack1>  where are the xchat logs saved?
[01:21] <Jack1> anybody knows?
[01:21] <Ng> vox_: from firefox?
[01:21] <rosemary> hey you guys - I have 6.06 installed on a PII 300, 3.2 HD, with 256 RAM - heaps of other distros would not install to this
[01:21] <crazy_penguin> it's were the program for the initialization of the system runs, after that the system switches to one of the 12345 levels
[01:21] <vox_> yes
[01:21] <crazy_penguin> fli7e: ^^^
[01:21] <intelikey> fli7e S is 1    the rcS.d is a non-interactive startup dir.
[01:22] <vox_> Ng yes
[01:22] <Samus_Aran> McScruff: how did you install VMware ?
[01:22] <rosemary> I am very impressed
[01:22] <EmxBA> Jack1: probably /home/username/.xchat/
[01:22] <Ng> vox_: have you run any updates recently? firefox tends to do that when it needs a restart after an upgrade
[01:22] <mceKernelPanic> hi
[01:22] <vox_> Ng : ah ok ill do that, yes i just updated
[01:22] <mceKernelPanic> i've just bought a new motherboard and proccessor, an AMD64 3200+, and, when booting ubuntu live, sometimes something goes wrong and it ends in a kernel panic:
[01:22] <vox_> Ng: and i guess i forgot to do that
[01:22] <mceKernelPanic> CPU 0: Machine Check Exception: 4 Bank 4: b20000000000070F0F TSC 3eb4f7a737
[01:22] <mceKernelPanic> kernel panic - not syncing: Machine check exception
[01:23] <vox_> Ng ty brb
[01:23] <mceKernelPanic>  browsing the web, i've found this thread in kerneltrap: http://kerneltrap.org/node/4993  but is from 2005
[01:23] <pkh> how do I tell if my parallel port is working?
[01:23] <Isyth> hello everyone, I've got a question concerning playing .m4a files....
[01:23] <Ng> mceKernelPanic: might be worth running memtest86+ for a while, a MCE is a hardware error
[01:23] <intelikey> fli7e the rcS.d is and extention of the old rc file   man sysvinit   or google it.
[01:23] <mceKernelPanic> Ng, i did
[01:23] <EmxBA> pkh: maybe lspci
[01:23] <mceKernelPanic> no errors found
[01:23] <fli7e> so is runlevel S identical to/a synonym for runlevel 1? intelikey, you are leading me to beleive it is, but crazy_penguin i think is saying there is a difference
[01:23] <mceKernelPanic> in the whole night
[01:23] <Ng> fli7e: no, S and 1 are different
[01:23] <crazy_penguin> no
[01:23] <Ng> mceKernelPanic: hmm
[01:23] <crazy_penguin> it's not
[01:23] <EmxBA> yes
[01:23] <intelikey> fli7e yes S=1
[01:24] <mceKernelPanic> neither with memtest nor in the harddrive (seagate tools)
[01:24] <pkh> EmxBA, and what am I looking for?
[01:24] <crazy_penguin> the level S and the level 1 are different
[01:24] <mceKernelPanic> and the motherboard and processor are new
[01:24] <bliss_> hi
[01:24] <EmxBA> runlevel 2 is multiuser mode
[01:24] <EmxBA> runlevel 1 is single
[01:24] <claes> fli7e, S is for start not single user mode.
[01:25] <mceKernelPanic> but, the thing is that it looks to happen randomly, when in the thread they say that it happens always to them
[01:25] <intelikey> crazy_penguin level S and level 1 are different how ?
[01:25] <crazy_penguin> fli7e: the init process at boot runs first the S level programs to initialise everything and after switches to one of the 1 2 3 4 5 runlevels
[01:25] <bliss_> how is it possible to boot from a USB device if your BIOS does not have the USB function?
[01:25] <mceKernelPanic>  http://kerneltrap.org/node/4993
[01:25] <EmxBA> bliss_:get new BIOS :D
[01:25] <intelikey>   S or s tell init to switch to single user mode.
[01:25] <bliss_> thanks not so easy
[01:26] <mceKernelPanic> and, btw, i'm running a ubuntu live because i'm unable to finnish the instalation of ubuntu
[01:26] <crazy_penguin> fli7e: the 1 2 3 4 5 level are interactive
[01:26] <mceKernelPanic> it hangs up in the middle of it
[01:26] <Isyth> Is there any way I can play .m4a files in ubuntu? I can't find any packages that can do that, or any info on the wiki
[01:26] <fli7e> crazy_penguin, thanks... that makes a little more sense.
[01:26] <mceKernelPanic> just after installing all the packages
[01:26] <crazy_penguin> fli7e: the s level not
[01:26] <mceKernelPanic> it just freezes
[01:26] <EmxBA> bliss_yes, indeed, just flash your BIOS
[01:26] <crazy_penguin> fli7e: you're welcome
[01:26] <intelikey> crazy_penguin S is 1
[01:26] <vox_> hey Ng thanks, its back to normal again
[01:26] <crazy_penguin> fli7e: :)
[01:26] <ToreSkog> got a question about ubuntu + a raidarray already containing windows :-)
[01:27] <bliss_> just flash your BIOS yes so easy!!pleae
[01:27] <EmxBA> on ubuntu, 2-5 are multiuser modes
[01:27] <claes> intelikey, So your /etc/rcS.d and /etc/rc1.d is the same?
[01:27] <fli7e> im familiar with the other runlevels, but thanks
[01:27] <EmxBA> bliss_: support for booting from USB is emulated like booting from floppy
[01:27] <crazy_penguin> intelikey: imho it's not it's the first level that is run but is not level 1 or i'm wrong?
[01:27] <intelikey> fli7e crazy_penguin claes  may i sujest a quick   man init  on the suvject.
[01:27] <intelikey> claes the dir rcS  is not a runlevel
[01:27] <bliss_> do not have floppy drive what about CD?
[01:28] <suleman> hi anybody know what the difference in ubuntu enterprise and desktop
[01:28] <EmxBA> bliss_: it's the same
[01:28] <Samus_Aran> Isyth: I don't know about that on Ubuntu, sorry.  I use MPlayer to play m4v/m4a files on my current distro
[01:28] <ToreSkog> I use abit max-3 and have a raid0 on the intelkontroller in the southbridge, is there anyway to install and dualboot ubuntu on that?
[01:28] <mceKernelPanic> does anyone have a clue on my problem? :(
[01:28] <EmxBA> lsyth: try VLC
[01:28] <intelikey> claes i explained all that ^ up there.  before you started confusing fli7e
[01:28] <EmxBA> it supports very much file formats
[01:29] <fli7e> intelikey, man init seems to suggest that they are correct
[01:29] <ToreSkog> seen guides on how to get that kind of array working in linux but none telling how to install on it
[01:29] <fli7e> runlevel 1 is used to
[01:29] <fli7e>        get the system down into single user mode. Runlevel  S  is  not  really
[01:29] <fli7e>        meant  to  be used directly, but more for the scripts that are executed
[01:29] <fli7e>        when entering runlevel 1.
[01:29] <intelikey>       S or s tell init to switch to single user mode.
[01:29] <intelikey> from the man page ^
[01:29] <EmxBA> well runlevel 1
[01:29] <EmxBA> type that :D
[01:29] <mceKernelPanic> i'm using ubuntu 5.10 btw
[01:30] <Isyth> Samus_Aran, I do have an Mplayer but it doesn't seem to be working, there's an error or something. EmxBA, VLC doesn't do it for me either. Maybe there's just something wrong with the files.
[01:30] <claes> intelikey, But if you see it from the side of handling which services to start when?
[01:30] <intelikey> test this.   init S   then  runlevel   to see where you are and init 1   and runlevel  to see where you are.
[01:30] <EmxBA> lsyth: first, check that you have needed codecs
[01:30] <bliss_> if I Cannot boot into ubuntu can I boot from a live cd ?
[01:31] <EmxBA> bliss_: yes
[01:31] <Isyth> which codecs do I need?
[01:31] <bliss_> how please
[01:31] <EmxBA> lsyth: for what, precisely
[01:31] <Plugster> i'm trying to get an promise ultra 133 ide card to work.. have anyone any tips about that?
[01:31] <Isyth> EmxBA, for playing .m4a music files.
[01:31] <EmxBA> bliss_: you need to configure you BIOS to boot from CDROM
[01:31] <DarkTower> bliss_: put in the cd player and reboot, set bios to boot from cd
[01:32] <bliss_> EmxBA; ok thats already done
[01:32] <intelikey> claes rcS.d   is not a runlevel.  none of the rc*.d/  are runlevels.  but the files in them are exec'd according to /etc/init.d/rcS   <-- have a look some time.
[01:32] <DarkTower> bliss_: thenboot
[01:32] <EmxBA> bliss_: which ubuntu have you put in
[01:33] <EmxBA> lsyth: .m4a is mpeg 4 video
[01:33] <EmxBA> i guess
[01:33] <mattikoo> Is there is any who is charge for krazypenguins dapper-instruction. I did parts 12.58 and 12.59. Now I can't see news in Finland's newspage by realpalayer and xine shows two pictures same time.
[01:33] <bliss_> OK I have a knoopix live cd and ubuntu server on hd
[01:33] <claes> intelikey, I know. But we still talk around each other. just as before. :-)
[01:33] <EmxBA> lsyth: precisely, mpeg 4 audio layer
[01:34] <intelikey> claes yeah,  speaking different languages again...
[01:34] <bliss_> no not knoopin sorry kubuntu live cd
[01:35] <dusun_galz> hai
[01:35] <fli7e> alright guys, i've think i've got it well enough understood to move on
[01:35] <fli7e> thanks again
[01:35] <EmxBA> lsyth: if you got mp3 configured, than try this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57693
[01:35] <bliss_> EmmBA so how to boot into ubuntu on hd from live cd?
[01:36] <Isyth> EmxBA, I've got all the necessary codecs it seems, I think there's just something wrong with the files.
[01:36] <EmxBA> lsyth: maybe your files are corrupted
[01:36] <EmxBA> or badly codec
[01:36] <UbuntuBes> does anyone know how to add ftp user? i'm using proftpd
[01:36] <EmxBA> *coded
[01:36] <Sub> UbuntuBes, all users to the system can access ftp
[01:36] <EmxBA> sorry
[01:36] <EmxBA> i gotta go
[01:37] <EmxBA> intelikey: see you soon
[01:37] <Sub> so UbuntuBes just do "sudo adduser usernameyouwanttoadd"
[01:37] <UbuntuBes> i dont think like that
[01:37] <Sub> to add a user to the system and ftp
[01:37] <EmxBA> you mean ftp user
[01:37] <EmxBA> goodbye
[01:37] <intelikey> claes i know you know, but let me say one more thing and i'll go.   it's this line "si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS" in /etc/inittab that actually is responsable for those scripts being ran and the other dirs according to runlevel.
[01:37] <UbuntuBes> Sub that is only for shell users
[01:38] <claes> intelikey, I know
[01:38] <Sub> UbuntuBes, I run an ssh/ftp server, and if I add users they also have ftp access with that username and password.
[01:38] <UbuntuBes> i tried that before and user cannot login using ftp but only shell
[01:38] <bliss_> and here are death by cd
[01:38] <Sub> well have you check /etc/proftpd.conf
[01:40] <UbuntuBes> after i add --> addgroup ftpuser
[01:40] <UbuntuBes> usermod -G ftpuser username
[01:40] <UbuntuBes> cp /bin/false /bin/ftp
[01:40] <Sub> UbuntuBes, DefaultRoot ~  & DenyFilter                      \*.*/ are both in your proftpd.conf yes?
[01:40] <UbuntuBes> echo "/bin/ftp" >> /etc/shells
[01:41] <Sub> UbuntuBes, dont do any of that other stuff, just add the user and leave it.
[01:41] <Sub> with proftpd thats all you should need to do.
[01:41] <red-sox> hi
[01:41] <UbuntuBes> coz i follow up the http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LaSuRsL3xEJ8gAEwRXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE4Z2pkMnFqBGNvbG8DdwRsA1dTMQRwb3MDMQRzZWMDc3IEdnRpZANNQVAwMDJfODI-/SIG=12d7d3gb2/EXP=1149075692/**http%3a//howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10%23comment
[01:41] <red-sox> my ubuntu live cd won't work with gui
[01:42] <ToreSkog> still noone here who knows anything about dualbooting win and ubuntu from raid0
[01:42] <red-sox> it said some error about x ive done the following:
[01:42] <Knelix> Official date for Dapper?
[01:42] <Sub> UbuntuBes, you realise that setup is for a hosting server yes?
[01:42] <red-sox> Sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:42] <Sub> to host multiple websites etc.
[01:42] <red-sox> Knelix: yes
[01:42] <red-sox> VESA
[01:42] <red-sox> That's what I've done
[01:42] <UbuntuBes> Sub yes that right
[01:43] <UbuntuBes> but is it for my school server
[01:43] <Knelix> red-sox: I mean, when? Is it still June 1st?
[01:44] <Sub> well I find any new user on my system , with no modifications has ftp access
[01:44] <Sub> using proftpd.
[01:44] <Sub> and i jus tested it myself
[01:45] <red-sox> Knelix: oh   my bad
[01:46] <UbuntuBes> Sub hmm... wierd
[01:46] <Knelix> I've been itching to upgrade, but don't wanna till there's a stable, official Dapper release.
[01:46] <Isyth> okay so I'm installing gnormalize, and it says "make: command not found". What do I do?
[01:46] <Sub> are you sure the ftp server is working correctly?
[01:46] <UbuntuBes> Sub I cant get user on ftp if i just type sudo useradd usernameksksj
[01:46] <Sub> like allowing external connections, the port is forwarded etc.
[01:47] <aylov> ToreSkog: read about dmraid
[01:47] <UbuntuBes> Sub but after i done everything with this --> http://archiv.debianhowto.de/en/proftpd/c_proftpd.html then i can have user access the ftp server
[01:47] <ToreSkog> okey
[01:47] <ROBOd> hello guys
[01:47] <marco_> hello guys
[01:47] <ROBOd> i have ubuntu 5.10 (still)
[01:48] <ROBOd> i want to remove evolution
[01:48] <UbuntuBes> sub port forwarded yes already done
[01:48] <ROBOd> if i select from synaptic evolution and mark it for removal
[01:48] <ROBOd> it asks me to remove ubuntu-desktop package too
[01:48] <ROBOd> what to do?
[01:48] <Ng> ROBOd: that's correct
[01:48] <ompaul> ROBOd, don't bother, just make something else the default it makes life handier
[01:48] <Ng> ROBOd: removing that is only really an issue when you upgrade between versions. It would be easier to just leave evolution installed and not use it though ;)
[01:48] <ROBOd> ompaul: what do you mean?
[01:49] <UbuntuBes> Sub that is why I'm confuse but no worry, everthing is now fine
[01:49] <ompaul> ROBOd, if you plan on upgrading a good thing to have in place is ubuntu-desktop it makes life easy
[01:49] <Sub> ROBOd, thats because evo. is part of the core ubuntu package
[01:49] <ROBOd> yeah, i know it's part of the core ubuntu package
[01:49] <ROBOd> same goes for many useless kde packages
[01:49] <UbuntuBes> Sub do u know how to make my server to act like router
[01:50] <ROBOd> i have installed the *only* ones i need, excluding kubuntu-desktop and hundreds of others
[01:50] <Isyth> okay so I'm installing gnormalize, and it says "make: command not found". What do I do?
[01:50] <ROBOd> instead of 600 mb ... i now got only about 100 mb of KDE
[01:50] <ROBOd> for quanta and konqueror :D
[01:50] <Ng> Isyth: you probably want to install the build-essential package
[01:50] <ompaul> Isyth, sudo apt-get install build-essential<<
[01:50] <ROBOd> now ... if there's no ubuntu-desktop .... what happends when i try to upgrade?
[01:51] <ROBOd> i'll of course want to upgrade to ubuntu 6.06
[01:51] <ompaul> ROBOd, you want it
[01:51] <UbuntuBes> does anyone know how to limit the quota for specific user?
[01:51] <Ng> ROBOd: some new things may get missed
[01:51] <Isyth> thanks, will try that
[01:51] <ROBOd> uhm
[01:51] <ROBOd> then i'll probably wait for the upgrade
[01:52] <ROBOd> then go for "screwing' my setup :)
[01:52] <cr3> how do I find out which packages are part of the ubuntu core distribution?
[01:53] <aylov> ToreSkog: read this - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2557.html
[01:53] <UbuntuBes> how to watch my current wget progress from diffrent shell session??
[01:54] <aylov> UbuntuBes use wget -b
[01:54] <aylov> then tail -f wget.log
[01:55] <UbuntuBes> aylov i dont get it!! can u just give me example please
[01:55] <Isyth> oh, it worked :D
[01:56] <ROBOd> thanks guys
[01:56] <ROBOd> gtg
[01:56] <ROBOd> bye
[01:56] <red-sox> how do  i install gnome?
[01:56] <red-sox> apt-get gnome?
[01:57] <UbuntuBes> sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[01:57] <aylov> example wget -b http://blabla....
[01:57] <aylov> Output will be written to `wget-log'
[01:57] <aylov> then use tail -f wget.log to watch progress
[01:57] <itecgo> Hello
[01:58] <brian_> hi, vino crased while i was in a vnc session, now when i try use apps such as synaptic it gives the error "unable to copy the users Xauthorisation file" anybody got a fix?
[01:58] <tiago> hello
[01:58] <tiago> algum do brasil?
[01:59] <Samus_Aran> brian_: have you tried logging out and back in ?
[01:59] <cyne> greets
[02:00] <cyne> dapper drake was released already?
[02:00] <cyne> damn i was waiting for june 1 :P
[02:00] <brian_> Samus_Aran: yes, no joy. Ive also tried deleting the Xauthority file and that didnt work
[02:00] <highvoltage> cyne: nope
[02:00] <UbuntuBes> cyne not yet
[02:00] <cyne> ok
[02:00] <UbuntuBes> thnx aylov
[02:01] <feg> i enabled bash completion in /etc/bash.bashrc, now if i type "set" on the command line, the output shows all the functions used by bash_completion. is it normal?
[02:01] <cyne> can ubuntu run on my laptop and recognise all my ports?
[02:01] <claes> cyne, June 1st is the release date.
[02:01] <UbuntuBes> claes is beta will be similar to dapper drake?
[02:01] <claes> cyne, Depends on the laptop and what ports it has.
[02:02] <cyne> claes, hmmm ok
[02:02] <deus_> ...is it out yet?
[02:02] <deus_> dapper
[02:02] <cyne> claes, it is an older laptop, so not much hope eh? :(
[02:02] <feg> !set
[02:02] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, feg
[02:02] <claes> UbuntuBes, Yes the most apps will be the same as today. But some will probably be upgraded before thursday.
[02:03] <feg> !bash_completion
[02:03] <ubotu> feg: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:03] <claes> cyne, More hope then if it is to new.
[02:03] <cyne> claes, i see...
[02:04] <claes> UbuntuBes, Dapper will be the first ubuntu release to support aptitude upgrade from ready installed systems. Earlier the support way to upgrade was to "reinstall".
[02:04] <cyne> claes, i suppose the only way to know is to grab it and 'give it a go'
[02:04] <UbuntuBes> can some body point me to right direction on how to setup a networking for my school. is it ISP->ADSL Modem->Router->Switch->server and all pcs
[02:04] <claes> cyne, Yeah. :-)
[02:05] <cyne> :)
[02:05] <claes> UbuntuBes, I would do it with: ISP -> ADSL router -> firewall -> switch -> servers and workstations.
[02:07] <claes> UbuntuBes, And perhaps a third leg on the firewall with dmz.
[02:08] <UbuntuBes> but our school only have 1 server which is hp proliant and no firewall, do u have any idea beside that?
[02:12] <claes> UbuntuBes, Throw in a second nic in the proliant and install ubuntu on it. Then it can act booth as a server and a fw.
[02:12] <UbuntuBes> claes thats what I thought
[02:13] <UbuntuBes> but do i have to install firewall program inside it?
[02:13] <UbuntuBes> claes is squid that you meant?
[02:13] <claes> UbuntuBes, The firewall functions in linux is in the kernel but you need user-mode tools to configure it. You could write your own scripts using iptables or there are some tools that do it for you.
[02:14] <hugh__> go and I got nothing
[02:14] <hugh__> sorry ignore that
[02:14] <UbuntuBes> claes i'm not that expert, thing that i now is to install ubuntu only
[02:15] <hugh__> does anyone know how to work out what the GAL is for a Exchange Server?
[02:15] <UbuntuBes> claes user-mode tools mean i have to install GUI first??
[02:15] <claes> UbuntuBes, Then you should need to test it abit before going live with the system. A rather powerful but yet simple way to handle firewall scripts is with this: http://firehol.sf.net
[02:16] <netmonk> hello. does anyone know if I need nvidia-kernel if my toshiba has an integrated intel video card?
[02:16] <Jimmey__> Is there any way to make the icons on my desktop automatically align to the right instead of the left hand side?
[02:16] <rv01> hi
[02:16] <claes> netmonk, check the output of: sudo lspvi
[02:16] <njan> netmonk, you don't
[02:16] <hugh__> Jimmy, the simple way is to just drag them to the other side
[02:17] <claes> netmonk, And nvidia is for nvidia cards if it's an intel card I doubt it.
[02:17] <hugh__> make that jimmy__
[02:17] <Jimmey__> hugh__, but then when I align the icons, the shift back to the lef
[02:17] <skip> Does anybody here run a dual core CPU?
[02:17] <UbuntuBes> claes ok thanx for the tips and i appreciate that
[02:17] <Jimmey__> skip, you need the SMP kernel...If that's your question
[02:17] <netmonk> claes, i get "command not found"
[02:17] <claes> UbuntuBes, And it's packages in ubuntu too.
[02:17] <hugh__> jimmy__, as in 'keep aligned'
[02:18] <hugh__> or cleanup by name
[02:18] <UbuntuBes> ok
[02:18] <Jimmey__> hugh__, clean up by name
[02:18] <UbuntuBes> thank everybody
[02:18] <claes> netmonk, Sorry slip of fingers it should read: sudo lspci
[02:18] <rv01> I need help, i'm try login root, but i don't has sucess
[02:18] <skip> Jimmey__: nope, I was just wanting to know if there is much support for, and much advantage, to using a dual under Linux
[02:18] <ToreSkog> is there any risk in using ubuntu in correlation with all my ntfs-disks?
[02:18] <UbuntuBes> c u next time
[02:19] <netmonk> claes, :) it's all intel
[02:19] <Jimmey__> skip, yeah
[02:19] <hugh__> Jimmy__, hum I can't think of a way but I think I will look into it becuase all my icons just moved to the other side of the desktop when I tried the command
[02:19] <claes> netmonk, Then you don't need any nvidia crap.
[02:19] <Jimmey__> ToreSkog, you can't write to NTFS, but there's no risk
[02:19] <exhale> will there be a NON graphical installer for dapper?
[02:19] <netmonk> claes, thanks :)
[02:19] <skip> Jimmey__: in other words, is it worth paying the bit extra for a dual?
[02:20] <claes> netmonk, Glad I could help.
[02:20] <Jimmey__> skip, I mean that Linux can get as much out of a dual as any other operating system
[02:20] <ToreSkog> hehe you can't write to ntfs kind of says it all, if I cann't write, how could I fuck something up :-P
[02:20] <Jimmey__> If you want a dual, you should get one ;)
[02:20] <claes> skip, I would do that. Even I have done that but I have not gotten the machine yet.
[02:20] <d2812> hey. does anybody else have a problem with the time when they dual boot ubuntu and xp? once ubuntu is installed, XP ends up being an hour slow, but is fine just before the ubuntu install. its happened on a couple of machines now.
[02:20] <skip> Jimmey, ok then
[02:21] <exhale> will there be a NON graphical installer for dapper?
[02:21] <Jimmey__> exhale, yes
[02:21] <Jimmey__> It's the text mode install CD
[02:21] <exhale> Jimmey__, is it already includeded in the RC?
[02:21] <Jimmey__> exhale, yeah
[02:21] <exhale> i tried the RC and it said that the x server couldnt start
[02:21] <exhale> i couldnt even enter the install
[02:22] <hugh__> d2812, It does seem to slow XP load times down, but hey, when do you need to use XP when you have Linux ;)
[02:22] <claes> d2812, Yes. The problem is that linux sets the bios clock to utc and windows thinks the bios clock is local time.
[02:22] <skip> apart from using the SMP kernel, are there any other major differences when installing & maintaining a dual core machine in Linux?
[02:22] <kesV> d2812: you can configure Ubuntu to behave like windows, in fact the installer asks you about this, iirc.
[02:23] <exhale> wait.. so dapper install program is the same as breezy's?
[02:23] <claes> skip, nope. that's it. And the default i686 kernel in dapper is smp. :-)
[02:23] <DarkTower> Yes, installer asks if clock is set to local time or utc
[02:23] <skip> claes, cool, I think you've convinced me!
[02:23] <d2812> okay, thanks guys - just good to know im not being dumb :) must of missed that in the installer - oh well
[02:24] <Boulzor> hello
[02:24] <Boulzor> someone speak french ?
[02:24] <bert_> !fe
[02:24] <ubotu> bert_: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:24] <DarkTower> wee lol
[02:24] <Boulzor> lol
[02:24] <Boulzor> darktower
[02:24] <hugh__> d2812, I have one of my computers set to local time and Windows still takes ages to load
[02:24] <DarkTower> oiu
[02:24] <bert_> !fr
[02:24] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:24] <DarkTower> salut
[02:24] <Boulzor> salut
[02:24] <claes> skip, If it's a workstation you might wait to get the new cpu with support for virtualization in them. Then you can run any os in xen. Way cool!
[02:25] <Boulzor> bha eu
[02:25] <DarkTower> Boulzor: OK thats all i remember from high school lol
[02:25] <Boulzor> ?
[02:25] <d2812> hugh, calaes : is there any way of changing it to local time now?
[02:25] <claes> skip, But not sure if  it will be awailable for laptops.
[02:25] <Boulzor> ouais bon
[02:25] <skip> claes, actually I'm about to buy a new notebook and can't decide what to get
[02:25] <Boulzor> jarrive pas a modif un fichier dans etc/hosts
[02:25] <Boulzor> c un fichier en lecture seul
[02:25] <Boulzor> et jcroi qui faut les droit root
[02:26] <claes> skip, I went with a macbook. Not foor running macos x but it was the cheapest one with dual core cpu.
[02:26] <rv01> someone speak portuguese ???
[02:26] <Boulzor> l'astuce c ke jsai pa me connecter en root sur mon ordi paske jcroi pa kil y ai un root
[02:26] <Boulzor> lool
[02:26] <Boulzor> dan linstall d'ubuntu bai y mon pa dmander pour etre root ou koi
[02:26] <Boulzor> g pa du tapper dpass rien du tout
[02:26] <hugh__> d2812, goto admin, then time and date
[02:26] <skip> claes, I'd prefer to go with an Intel machine because I also need to run XP (unfortunately)
[02:26] <Boulzor> alors now ch pa accd au fichier config
[02:27] <Samus_Aran> goodnight all
[02:27] <hugh__> d2812, make that 'time and date settings'
[02:27] <Boulzor> DarkTower, t tjrs la ?
[02:27] <claes> skip, the new macbook is with an intel dual core cpu.
[02:27] <LinuxJones> Boulzor, #ubuntu-fr
[02:27] <DarkTower> Boulzor: Je ne comprend pas
[02:27] <Boulzor> ok jvai voir le channel
[02:27] <Boulzor> bha si tu veu
[02:27] <DarkTower> Boulzor: sorry dude im not really french
[02:27] <d2812> hugh_ : utc is deselected.
[02:27] <Boulzor> ok DarkTower
[02:28] <skip> cleas, sorry, pardon my ignorance. I'd still prefer to go non-Mac
[02:28] <Boulzor> thank you kan mme
[02:28] <hugh__> then it should work fine
[02:28] <Jimmey__> skip, why a notebook?
[02:28] <DarkTower> skip: Mac don't use a different architecture anymore, its a dual core pentium
[02:28] <hugh__> d2812, it may just be that Windows has some trouble when there is another OS
[02:28] <d2812> thanks hugh_ :)
[02:29] <claes> skip, No problem. If thinkpads where cheaper I would go with that. I love the thinkpad I have now. But it's starting to get old.
[02:29] <thesaltydog> after latest dapper upgrade, I cannot run oowriter anymore! It is a known bug?
[02:29] <Boulzor> dark,  tu parle pa francais ?
[02:29] <Boulzor> DarkTower, ?
[02:29] <hugh__> Is there much Linux Support for Tablets?
[02:29] <skip> claes, because I need portability. I had a T32 years ago and badly want another Thinkpad but don't know if I can justify it.
[02:29] <DarkTower> Boulzor: non
[02:29] <skip> sorry, an R32
[02:30] <Boulzor> ok
[02:30] <skip> claes, what do you know about HP/Compaq?
[02:30] <claes> skip, Not much.
[02:31] <rv01> claes, i can help you
[02:31] <claes> rv01, I didn't even know that I needed help. What can you do for me. :-)
[02:32] <skip> back soon...
[02:32] <rv01> claes, What you need ?
[02:32] <hugh__> Well I should say, Is there much Linux support for slates
[02:32] <hugh__> ?
[02:32] <rv01> I work in the partner HP.
[02:33] <Pshivers> just a quick question
[02:33] <Pshivers> I'm running the Live CD on a mates PC atm
[02:33] <claes> rv01, Nothing. It was you who said you could help me. I worked at a HP partner before. But still don't know anything about hp laptops. I know what I need. I would go with thinkpad 7 days a week.
[02:33] <Pshivers> just to show him ubuntu
[02:34] <Speed-Link|war> how do i create a user with the name "webmin" that only has access to add/overwrite files in /var/www ?
[02:34] <claes> rv01, It was skip that hade questions about HP laptops. :-)
[02:34] <Speed-Link|war> how do i create a user with the name "webmin" that only has access to add/overwrite files/create dirs in /var/www ?
[02:34] <amphi> claes: I second your stinkpad recommendation ;)
[02:34] <Pshivers> can I "install" applications and use them?
[02:34] <rv01> claes, sorry
[02:35] <rv01> :)
[02:35] <claes> rv01, No problem. Nice of you wanting to help me.
[02:35] <rv01> bye
[02:36] <mutante> Speed-Link|war: "useradd" or "adduser" to create it, chmod and chown to set the permissions
[02:36] <Speed-Link|war> yeah, but i have NO clue about chmod and chown, can you give me an example ?
[02:36] <claes> Speed-Link|war, sudo useradd webmin
[02:36] <Speed-Link|war> yeah?
[02:36] <claes> Speed-Link|war, sudo chown webmin /var/www -R
[02:37] <mutante> its too complex to explain file permissions with one example
[02:37] <mutante> what claes said;)
[02:37] <Allz-i->  Hello i still trying to configure or setup my keyboard lyout to iclandic but still dont work -i have tryed to reconfigure my x-server but does not work ;<
[02:38] <claes> Speed-Link|war, And set the password for the user webmin: sudo passwd webmin
[02:38] <hugh__> Is there _any_ Linux support for Slates?
[02:38] <Speed-Link|war> yeah, cheers
[02:38] <Speed-Link|war> trying it out now
[02:38] <StR> How can I reconfigure my sound-card?  it does not work?
[02:39] <StR> is there a way to reconfigure the sound card? like soundconfig or something?
[02:39] <Speed-Link|war> claes, dunno if this is possible, but is there a possibility to give the user access to remove the dirs/files he created ONLY ?
[02:40] <claes> Speed-Link|war, If you want it that he can remove files he owns but not others files?
[02:40] <Pshivers> hmm, when i type ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install 3ddesktop
[02:40] <Pshivers> , I get this error "E: Couldn't find package 3ddesktop"
[02:40] <Speed-Link|war> exactly claes
[02:40] <claes> Speed-Link|war, sudo chmod g+t /var/www
[02:41] <claes> Speed-Link|war, Nope sorry was wrong
[02:41] <Speed-Link|war> what will that do ?? (dont want to screw it up for my other users)
[02:41] <claes> Speed-Link|war, sudo chmod o+t /var/www
[02:41] <Speed-Link|war> you sure ?
[02:41] <claes> Speed-Link|war, It set's the sticky bit on a directory meaning that you have to own the file to remove it.
[02:42] <Speed-Link|war> claes, ok - so root will have full access ot this, and my ftp users that has access to the dir wont be effected?
[02:42] <claes> Speed-Link|war, You can see it with: ls -ld /var/www
[02:43] <Speed-Link|war> alright, only shows teh webmin user
[02:43] <Speed-Link|war> safe then ?
[02:43] <KenSentMe_> Does anyone know what channel a vcr usually uses. I'm testing my capture card.
[02:43] <claes> Speed-Link|war, root bypasses the permissions if root don't have the permissions.
[02:43] <Speed-Link|war> ok
[02:44] <claes> Speed-Link|war, for the ftp users it depends on the config.
[02:44] <Speed-Link|war> k
[02:44] <igorzolnikov> i deleted apache2.conf... what must i do?
[02:44] <Speed-Link|war> and what's the default setting for that you just said to me ?
[02:45] <claes> igorzolnikov, sudo aptitude reinstall apache2
[02:46] <Speed-Link|war> didnt work claes...
[02:46] <claes> Speed-Link|war, What didn't work?
[02:46] <igorzolnikov> don't work
[02:46] <Speed-Link|war> udo chmod o+t /var/www
[02:46] <Speed-Link|war> s*
[02:46] <igorzolnikov> i tried... but nor result
[02:46] <igorzolnikov> not result
[02:47] <julie_> hi - can anybody help me with a wireless card problem
[02:47] <claes> igorzolnikov, Then try. sudo aptitude purge apache2 then sudo aptitude install apache2
[02:48] <julie_> mods load ok but get link not rady message in dmesg
[02:48] <claes> Speed-Link|war, What does ls -ld /var/www tell you?
[02:48] <Speed-Link|war> drwxr-xr-t 6 benjick ftp 4096 2006-05-30 14:45 /var/www
[02:48] <Speed-Link|war> benjick is 'webmin'
[02:48] <Frogzoo> KenSentMe_: usually you can switch between channels 0 & 1
[02:48] <igorzolnikov> no
[02:49] <claes> Speed-Link|war, then it should work. benjick should be able to create files but only delete it's own files.
[02:49] <igorzolnikov> i tried... but don't create apache2
[02:50] <igorzolnikov> i tried... but don't create apache2.conf
[02:50] <claes> igorzolnikov, What does dpkg -S /etc/don't_remeber_the_path/apache.conf tell you?
[02:51] <KenSentMe_> Frogzoo: so on my tv card software i should use 0 or 1?
[02:51] <claes> igorzolnikov, Should be the path to the apache2.conf file. But you might have gotten that.
[02:52] <igorzolnikov> igorzolnikov@igorzolnikov:/etc/apache2$ dpkg -S /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[02:52] <igorzolnikov> apache2-common: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[02:52] <igorzolnikov> igorzolnikov@igorzolnikov:/etc/apache2$ dpkg -S /etc/apache2/apache.conf
[02:52] <igorzolnikov> dpkg: /etc/apache2/apache.conf not found.
[02:52] <claes> igorzolnikov,  then it's that you should reinstall with: sudo aptitude reinstall apache2-common
[02:53] <igorzolnikov> not result
[02:53] <igorzolnikov> i have not apache2.conf
[02:53] <igorzolnikov> igorzolnikov@igorzolnikov:/etc/apache2$ /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start
[02:53] <igorzolnikov> apache2: could not open document config file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[02:53] <Speed-Link|war> claes, doesnt, i can delete files i created under root :-(
[02:54] <planetcall> goodevening
[02:54] <stylus> Hey there - so the 5.10 live cd is the latest right? (or is there a 6.06?)
[02:54] <claes> Speed-Link|war, Are the files still owned by root?
[02:54] <eCokeNCod> hmmm, i just logged into my pc at home using ssh, and putty on a windows box ... i see something here about forwarding X11, how would that work ? could i somehow get the GUI ?
[02:54] <Speed-Link|war> yeah ofc ??
[02:55] <DBO> stylus, 5.10 is the latest stable, 6.06 comes out thursday
[02:55] <stylus> DBO - and 6.06 will be the latest stable vesion then?
[02:55] <DBO> thursday
[02:55] <claes> igorzolnikov, sudo aptitude purge apache2-common sudo aptitude install apache2-common and perhaps everything else that was removed by the first command.
[02:55] <stylus> If I was to install 5.10 would I be able to upgrade to 6.06 through it?
[02:55] <DBO> stylus, yes, thursday 6.06 becomes the latest stable version
[02:56] <Pshivers> so release date for 6.06 is thursday
[02:56] <DBO> stylus, yes, you can upgrade =)
[02:56] <stylus> DBO, I've burned a live cd. How do I use it?
[02:56] <DBO> June 1st
[02:56] <eCokeNCod> 6.06 is being released ? as in breezy ? or dapper ?
[02:56] <Pshivers> dapper
[02:56] <eCokeNCod> this breezy dapper business always confuses me
[02:56] <DBO> stylus, stick it in your CD-Rom drive and reboot
[02:56] <eCokeNCod> so what's gonna happen to us folks on breezy ?
[02:56] <Pshivers> breezy is 5.10
[02:56] <stylus> Alright. Bai! ^_^
[02:56] <DBO> eCokeNCod, you will be assimilated to the dapper collective
[02:57] <igorzolnikov> yes
[02:57] <eCokeNCod> lol
[02:57] <igorzolnikov> work
[02:57] <Pshivers> I'll wait then, install it on my laptop when dapper comes out
[02:57] <DBO> good idea
[02:57] <Pshivers> clean install is better than a update
[02:57] <eCokeNCod> i'm wondering if i should switch to dapper
[02:57] <eCokeNCod> breezy seems to be working fine for me ...
[02:57] <DBO> eCokeNCod, when it comes out
[02:57] <eCokeNCod> but everyone else seems to be using dapper
[02:58] <Pshivers> dapper seems faster
[02:58] <njan> eCokeNCod, if it ain't broke..
[02:58] <DBO> fix it till it is!
[02:58] <nutterpc> eCokeNCod: I'm on dapper
[02:58] <eCokeNCod> njan yeh ... that's what i was thinking
[02:58] <njan> although see if I'm still saying that on the first :P
[02:58] <nutterpc> trust me, its worth it
[02:58] <nutterpc> I only had a problem which i caused, lol, to sort out
[02:58] <njan> nutterpc, my PC still working for work is worth *not* upgrading for a bit.
[02:59] <nutterpc> and its not faultered ONCE
[02:59] <CokeNCode> i had a problem initially thta was caused by having to switch screen resolution on startup, my pc would just crash
[03:00] <ompaul> DBO,  use ! and insist on it
[03:00] <CokeNCode> but, i reinstalled, make sure i installed at the the resolution i wanted to work in, and never had the same problem again
[03:00] <planetcall> CokeNCode, I am using Breezy !
[03:00] <CokeNCode> planetcall yeh, we seem to be in the minority tho ...
[03:00] <njan> *is
[03:00] <DBO> ompaul, you know better than to think I would ever take the easy way out =P
[03:01] <planetcall> newer things tend to replace older ones sooner or later
[03:01] <bigcx2> anyone in here running amd64 and get pandora to work
[03:01] <CokeNCode> yeh, i think i'll stick with breezy, i'm loving it.
[03:01] <ompaul> Description:	Ubuntu (The Breezy Badger Release)
[03:01] <HB> can any body help me?
[03:01] <ompaul> !helpme
[03:01] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[03:02] <HB> i am a new user,and i want  to use chinese ,what should i do ?
[03:03] <ompaul>  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:04] <HB> thx
[03:04] <HB> how to do it ?
[03:04] <ompaul>  /join #ubuntu-tw
[03:04] <ompaul> that might help some
[03:05] <stylus> DBO - it didn't boot from the disk?
[03:05] <stylus> I had it in the drive. Is there something stopping it?
[03:05] <DBO> stylus, you have to set your BIOS settings to boot from CD-ROM
[03:05] <stylus> Oh.. How do I do that?
[03:06] <DBO> erm, changes from motherboard to motherboard...
[03:06] <DBO> well BIOS to BIOS anyhow
[03:07] <stylus> I don't quite understand what you're saying DBO. How is it that I can have the computer boot from the disk?
[03:07] <ubuntu> hallo
[03:07] <DBO> stylus, do you know what your BIOS is?
[03:07] <HB> thx
[03:08] <Tinned_Tuna> heya
[03:08] <stylus> DBO, moderately.
[03:08] <ubuntu> hallo
[03:08] <Tinned_Tuna> I'm trying to connect to an NFS server, but I need to start portmap demon, how would I do that, please
[03:08] <stylus> Is there a set of istructions I can follow?
[03:08] <DBO> stylus, there is a setting in there about boot order, change that so CD-ROM is first
[03:09] <Pshivers> stylus, some can press F10 while staring up, allowing them to choose boot order
[03:09] <stylus> Alright, I feel I can.
[03:09] <stylus> Is that what I would need to do if I was to install ubuntu as well?
[03:09] <Pshivers> yep
[03:09] <stylus> Alright. Bai I'll give it a shot..
[03:10] <Frogzoo> Tinned_Tuna: you should just run 'sudo /etc/init.d/mountall.sh start'
[03:11] <Frogzoo> Tinned_Tuna: oh, but configure /etc/fstab with the nfs filesystems first
[03:11] <Tinned_Tuna> Frogzoo: do I need to put the nfs share in my fstab then?
[03:11] <Tinned_Tuna> yea, sorry:)
[03:12] <garygar21jr> is there 3d drivers for powerbook g4? ati
[03:13] <Frogzoo> garygar21jr: it might be called fglrx
[03:13] <Frogzoo> !tell garygar21jr about fglrx
[03:15] <KenSentMe_> how do i get a list of running processes?
[03:15] <napsy> configure: error: Couldn't find XScreenSaver extension.
[03:15] <napsy> what do I need to install to fix this?
[03:15] <Frogzoo> KenSentMe_: ps aux
[03:16] <load> is translucency disabled in xorg on (K)Ubuntu
[03:16] <KenSentMe_> Frogzoo: and to kill a process i type kill PID ?
[03:17] <Ungbay> hi, how do I know which ubuntu I am running
[03:17] <Frogzoo> KenSentMe_: kill -TERM pid       is 'gentler'
[03:17] <planetcall> ps -e
[03:17] <Frogzoo> KenSentMe_: kill -9 pid    will kill most everything, but it's pretty brutal
[03:18] <napsy> got it
[03:18] <garygar21jr> wow im verry confused about thoes drivers
[03:18] <Ungbay> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse <-- this is the only repository in my sources.list
[03:18] <Ng> !tell Ungbay about sources
[03:18] <Ungbay> Ng, I know the sources and the generator
[03:18] <Ungbay> just tell me how I can find out which dapper I am running
[03:18] <KenSentMe_> Frogzoo: ok, thanx
[03:18] <stylus-ub> woot. DBO - I'm on ubuntu. :-)
[03:18] <Ng> Ungbay: which dapper?
[03:18] <Ungbay> I can't remember the last time I updated
[03:18] <Ungbay> yes ffs, flight x
[03:19] <stylus-ub> and I've learnt how to use xchat with it. ^_^
[03:19] <DBO> stylus-ub, congrats
[03:19] <planetcall> Ungbay: System>About Ubuntu
[03:19] <stylus-ub> :-)
[03:19] <Ungbay> planetcall, assuming I use gnome
[03:19] <Thlayli> hi! can anyone please tell me how to use my scanner with ubuntu?
[03:19] <Ungbay> command line please anyone
[03:19] <Ng> Ungbay: firstly, no "ffs"ing - we're much less likely to help you if you give us attitude. Secondly, there is no "which dapper" - you're just running some version of it. The various flight releases are just snapshots really. How come you want to know?
[03:20] <Ungbay> Ng, I came off as atittude, sorry
[03:20] <selinium> Ungbay: lsb_release -a
[03:20] <Ng> selinium: that will just say dapper/6.06
[03:21] <Ungbay> I have 6.04
[03:21] <Ungbay> I want to install 6.06
[03:21] <Ng> Ungbay: you can keep upgrading it until the final release on thursday, it doesn't matter which you installed really.
[03:21] <Ungbay> do I just apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:21] <MenZa> Ungbay: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update
[03:21] <Marlun> How can I check how much space I've got left on my harddrives/partitions?
[03:21] <Ng> Ungbay: do an apt-get update first, but yes
[03:21] <Ng> Marlun: df -h
[03:21] <MenZa> er, dist-upgrade at the end
[03:21] <MenZa> :P
[03:21] <Marlun> Ng: thanks
[03:21] <Tinned_Tuna> my god?! the release is *this* thursday!?
[03:21] <selinium> Ungbay: make sure your repos is ok before...
[03:21] <Ng> Tinned_Tuna: unless any serious bugs show up, yes
[03:21] <MenZa> Tinned_Tuna: time flies :o
[03:21] <Tinned_Tuna> :)
[03:21] <exhale> cant wait :D
[03:22] <Tinned_Tuna> neither can I
[03:22] <garygar21jr> is there any powerbook users here
[03:22] <MenZa> I haven't been on my box for almost two weeks.
[03:22] <planetcall> Marlun: df
[03:22] <selinium> Ng: i knew, but i gave him what he wanted.... :)
[03:22] <exhale> in fact im going to install the RC now
[03:22] <garygar21jr> i can talk to
[03:22] <Tinned_Tuna> yup
[03:22] <Tinned_Tuna> I have a powerbook, but I don't run Linux on it
[03:22] <exhale> hey.. does anyone here use an ATI card with dapper RC?
[03:22] <Ungbay> I've got sid running on powerbook 3400c
[03:22] <Tinned_Tuna> hmm
[03:22] <garygar21jr> well i have it on my powerbook g4
[03:22] <MenZa> exhale: #dapper+1
[03:22] <Tinned_Tuna> still having nfs problems...
[03:22] <exhale> MenZa, empty channel
[03:23] <garygar21jr> i want to get 3d working on it
[03:23] <MenZa> exhale: er, #ubuntu+1
[03:23] <Ungbay> Tinned_Tuna, what problems
[03:23] <Tinned_Tuna> I can't mount an NFS share on my server, I just get RPC error, no route to host
[03:23] <Ng> Tinned_Tuna: can you ping the host?
[03:23] <Ungbay> Tinned_Tuna, can you ping
[03:23] <Tinned_Tuna> i'm pretty sure, yea
[03:24] <Ungbay> just ping the host by ip see if it works, might be a dns problem
[03:24] <Tinned_Tuna> yea, I have the ping working
[03:24] <stylus-ub> DBO, how do I go back to my windows now?
[03:24] <Ungbay> are you accessing by ip or by hostname
[03:24] <Tinned_Tuna> I'm mounting using the IP, not the hostname
[03:24] <DBO> stylus-ub, reboot and take the disc out
[03:24] <Ungbay> Tinned_Tuna, mount -t nfs x.x.x.x:/blah/blah /mnt/blah ?
[03:24] <stylus-ub> Alright. Do I need to change my BIOS anymore?
[03:25] <Tinned_Tuna> ok :)
[03:25] <DBO> stylus-ub, not likely
[03:25] <stylus-ub> Okey doke.
[03:25] <Ungbay> Tinned_Tuna, how are you trying to mount it?
[03:25] <Tinned_Tuna> damn :/ same
[03:25] <Tinned_Tuna> via the command line for the moment
[03:25] <planetcall> restart and pull the Ubuntu Disk out
[03:25] <Ungbay> Tinned_Tuna, no route to host means networking problem
[03:25] <Ungbay> but you can ping it
[03:25] <Tinned_Tuna> mount -t nfs 10.0.0.2:/home/danny/Music /home/danny/server_music
[03:25] <Tinned_Tuna> yea
[03:26] <Ungbay> this might mean you maybe not have the nfs-kernel-server started
[03:26] <Tinned_Tuna> server or client?
[03:26] <Ungbay> sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server && sudo nano /etc/exports (on server)
[03:26] <Ungbay> mount -t nfs on client
[03:26] <kmaexd> tag auch zusammen
[03:27] <Tinned_Tuna> hmm ok... the server is FC4
[03:27] <Ungbay> Tinned_Tuna, you might have to /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start after modifying exports
[03:27] <kmaexd> spricht ihr hier englisch?
[03:27] <Ng> !de
[03:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[03:27] <Ungbay> Tinned_Tuna, I dunno fedora sorry
[03:27] <Tinned_Tuna> yea...
[03:27] <Ungbay> Tinned_Tuna, try #fedora
[03:27] <Tinned_Tuna> I'm pretty sure the service is started on fedora, I can restart it etc.
[03:27] <kmaexd> its ok can english too, but thx for ubuntude
[03:27] <firedrops> i have a problem with xgl....it all works perfectly but suddenly it just crashes...like when you press close or connect in the xchat server window....i am using dapper drake
[03:28] <Tinned_Tuna> and I've opened the port(s) in the firewall
[03:28] <Ungbay> Tinned_Tuna, make sure a share has been made in /etc/exports
[03:28] <Ng> firedrops: dapper questions in #ubuntu+1, xgl questions in #ubuntu-xgl please :)
[03:28] <firedrops> ok ;)
[03:28] <Ungbay> Ng, so basically I should just wait until thurs.
[03:28] <Tinned_Tuna> is this OK: /home/danny/Music 10.0.0.11(rw)
[03:28] <Ungbay> then update
[03:28] <Ng> Ungbay: probably, yes, but it's up to you :)
[03:28] <Ungbay> I  hadn't touched this laptop in months, it had a older version of dapper
[03:28] <Tinned_Tuna> that's the only line in /etc/exports
[03:29] <Ungbay> I wanted to merely find out which one it was
[03:29] <Jimmey__> How can I check the cause of a crash?
[03:29] <Ungbay> Tinned_Tuna, the share doesn't exist
[03:29] <Tinned_Tuna> huh?
[03:29] <Ungbay> Tinned_Tuna, you have to create one in /etc/exports
[03:29] <Tinned_Tuna> I'm sure it does...
[03:29] <Random_Transit> hey, is there any way to install windows after installing ubuntu that won't screw up GRUB?
[03:29] <Ungbay> well you just said there is 1 line in exports, that 1 line is usually ifo about the manpage
[03:30] <Tinned_Tuna> no, not man page info, no comments, just "/home/danny/Music 10.0.0.11(rw)"
[03:30] <Ng> Random_Transit: no, but you can use a live CD or similar to reinstall grub afterwards
[03:30] <Ng> Random_Transit: generally it's easier to install windows first, then linux
[03:30] <Random_Transit> yeah...too late for that, I'm afraid
[03:30] <Ungbay> RandolphCarter, install ubuntu, write down the filenames in /boot for vmlinuz and initrd, then install windows, don't worry if the mbr gets over written, then install grub for NT, and use that grub to boot ubuntu, providin it the kernel/initrd files names on the ubuntu partition of /boot
[03:30] <Jimmey__> Is there a logfile somewhere by which I can track the cause of a crash?
[03:31] <Ungbay> RandolphCarter, its a log process, but grub for nt is best for linux dual boot
[03:31] <Ng> Jimmey__: there may be something in /var/log/syslog, but it depends how badly the machine crashed
[03:31] <Ungbay> long*
[03:32] <Piekipu_pouah> Lut ^^
[03:33] <Piekipu_pouah> il n'y aurais pas moyen d'avoir des skins pour Xchat ? je le trouve un peu...gris!
[03:33] <h3h_timo> how do you create a .deb file from source?
[03:34] <Ungbay> h3h_timo, from a source package or just some source?
[03:34] <h3h_timo> from a source package
[03:34] <Ungbay> in the former you can use apt-get -b
[03:34] <h3h_timo> im trying to install rufus
[03:35] <Ungbay> apt-get build-dep packagename and apt-get -b source packagename
[03:35] <Piekipu_pouah> you can use alien !
[03:35] <DBO> !alien
[03:35] <ubotu> [alien]  a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[03:35] <DBO> no you shouldnt use alien
[03:36] <Ungbay> h3h_timo, just download the source .deb package, and run its dependency building then satisfy those and then use -b switch to build the packages
[03:36] <Ungbay> then you can dpkg -i and install them
[03:36] <h3h_timo> Ungbay, what?? lol i just found the .deb package
[03:37] <Ungbay> h3h_timo, do you know about apt-cache search
[03:37] <Ungbay> ?
[03:37] <h3h_timo> Ungbay, nope
[03:37] <h3h_timo> im kinda new
[03:37] <Ungbay> h3h_timo, sudo apt-get update first to update the repository
[03:38] <tuxtheslacker> hello.
[03:38] <Ungbay> h3h_timo, then do apt-cache search keyword
[03:38] <h3h_timo> Ungbay, alright thanks
[03:38] <Ungbay> keyword being a  package name or a string in the description of the package
[03:38] <tuxtheslacker> can someone tell me a program that will allow me to have a webcam conference with a windows user?
[03:39] <Ungbay> tuxmaniac, kopete, gaim maybe
[03:39] <Tinned_Tuna> aMSN, perhaps
[03:39] <Ungbay> tuxmaniac, gnomemeeting?
[03:39] <Ungbay> tuxtheslacker, *
[03:39] <ben__> dont know abuot gaim
[03:39] <tuxtheslacker> Ungbay, kopete will work with a webcam?
[03:39] <Ungbay> tuxmaniac,  I dunno I don't use it
[03:39] <tuxtheslacker> garumph.
[03:39] <tuxtheslacker> aMSN will work with a webcam?
[03:40] <Ungbay> let me google it for you
[03:40] <tuxtheslacker> aMSN requires me have a hotmail accnt. :-/.
[03:40] <Tinned_Tuna> yea
[03:40] <Ungbay> or maybe you can try that yourself eh?
[03:40] <tuxtheslacker> Tinned_Tuna, that sucks. hahahah!
[03:40] <HB> i have another question, my msn account is iamhuabin@gmail.com ,but i can not sign on by gaim,what should i  do?
[03:40] <Tinned_Tuna> not if you already have a hotmail acct :)
[03:40] <ben__> you should be able to
[03:40] <Ungbay> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete%20Webcam%20Support&comzone=show
[03:40] <Ungbay> here
[03:40] <Ungbay> kopete + webcam
[03:41] <HB> you mean i must use it by hotmail ?
[03:41] <HB> and can i use msn.com at gaim?
[03:41] <ben__> if its a m$ passport, then it should be fine
[03:41] <Ungbay> MSN and YAHOO are two supported protocols on kopete webcam
[03:42] <Tinned_Tuna> ahhh http://www.gnomemeeting.org/ does allow you to confrence with windows users with NetMeeting
[03:42] <Ungbay> tuxtheslacker, you should learn to use google
[03:42] <ben__> lol
[03:42] <Tinned_Tuna> haha
[03:42] <Ungbay> don't make us do your work for you
[03:42] <Tinned_Tuna> that reminds me of a site: http://justfuckinggoogleit.com i think it was
[03:42] <HB> but my gmail is a m$ passport
[03:43] <ben__> that should still be fine in gaim, you can use the gmail account for msn, and as a jabber
[03:45] <tuxtheslacker> Unenvarjo, will gaim do video?
[03:45] <tsk> hello, I wounder how I can access the setup program after install
[03:45] <tsk> I installed from a cd
[03:45] <Tinned_Tuna> tsk: to do what?
[03:45] <tsk> but install got interrupted
[03:45] <tsk> I need X11 etc...
[03:46] <tsk> I got no network on my device
[03:46] <Ungbay> tsk run the install again
[03:46] <Tinned_Tuna> hmm last time that happened to me, I just started from scratch
[03:46] <Ungbay> I hate that window mentality of restarting from scratch
[03:46] <tsk> Ungbay, I got a system installed but with no software packages..
[03:46] <Ungbay> I just fire up some consoles and figure it out
[03:47] <Ungbay> tty3 has all the installer output
[03:47] <Ungbay> tty2 is an ash shell
[03:47] <Ungbay> make it work
[03:47] <igorzolnikov> i have problem with php5
[03:47] <igorzolnikov> how can i full unistall apache mysql php
[03:47] <tsk> My install finished succesfully but after reboot the postinstall could not find my cd since I had pulled out the cable.. Now I want to continue again with the cable plugged in
[03:48] <igorzolnikov> and install again
[03:48] <CokeNCode> igorzolnikov try xampp
[03:48] <CokeNCode> apt-get install xampp
[03:48] <Ungbay> tsk, does your machine have network access
[03:48] <igorzolnikov> no
[03:48] <hastesaver> igorzolnikov, apt-get remove --purge <package name>; apt-get install --reinstall <packagename> (but maybe the -- options should come before the remove/install commands, I don't remember)
[03:49] <tsk> Ungbay, no... But I got full ubuntu cd
[03:49] <claes> tsk, If you try with sudo dpkg-reconfigure base-config
[03:49] <Ungbay> tsk, check your sources.list, you should have [cdrom]  etc.
[03:49] <RandolphCarter> Ungbay: you wanted something?
[03:49] <Tinned_Tuna> haha, that's awesome, Ubuntu is the first computer I've ever plugged a webcam into and not had to install a driver :D
[03:49] <Ungbay> RandolphCarter, I did?
[03:49] <RandolphCarter> yeah, maybe an auto-completion problem though, check your buffer :)
[03:49] <inet> www.orange.sk
[03:49] <Ungbay> oh sorry my bad
[03:50] <Ungbay> RandolphCarter, thats an impressive kinda name
[03:50] <RandolphCarter> :P np's, think I need to switch to irssir
[03:50] <Ungbay> Randolph
[03:50] <Ungbay> thats a strong first name
[03:50] <Ungbay> lol
[03:50] <RandolphCarter> thanks :) thankfully it isn't mine ^_^
[03:50] <Ungbay> thankfully, hehe
[03:51] <tsk> claes, thanks... I'm back on track again
[03:51] <Ungbay> I was gonna name my kid Gunner Wolfgang Axel
[03:51] <RandolphCarter> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randolph_Carter ;)
[03:51] <Ungbay> or something
[03:51] <Ungbay> at least wolfgang and gunner
[03:51] <RandolphCarter> lmao, if you can afford the shrink
[03:51] <Ungbay> dunno bout axel though
[03:51] <RandolphCarter> Gunner Wolfgang Axel Foley?
[03:51] <hastesaver> Major Major Major Major...
[03:51] <igorzolnikov> i removed /etc/mysql... what can i do?
[03:52] <Ungbay> RandolphCarter, or maybe i could give him one of thos african clicky clicky names like, "mmm kdra" that kdra with the flip of the tounch like a thank click sound.  "Hey, Mmm Kdra, come here son"
[03:52] <Ungbay> heh
[03:52] <Ungbay> nevermind me
[03:52] <claes> igorzolnikov, sudo aptitude purge mysql-common then sudo aptitude install mysql-common perhaps?
[03:52] <Ungbay> toung like a thak*
[03:53] <igorzolnikov> i removed /etc/php5 too
[03:53] <hastesaver> igorzolnikov, don't do manual things like that, that's what --purge is for
[03:53] <senobuntu> je tu slovak
[03:53] <RandolphCarter> :P
[03:53] <claes> igorzolnikov, You can see what package the config files are from with this command: dpkg -S /path/config.file
[03:53] <sybariten> anyone here running Cairo ?
[03:54] <senobuntu> hallo im browse disk
[03:54] <njan> sybariten, I think you'd have to speak to the egyptian government, and I don't think they have an IRC channel..
[03:54] <njan> sybariten, sorry, I couldn't resist. ;)
[03:54] <Ungbay> lol
[03:54] <claes> igorzolnikov, Then purge the package and then install it again.
[03:54] <Ungbay> look up egypt on google
[03:54] <sybariten> njan: bwaaaAAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!  mother of all gods, WHAT-A-KNEESLAPPER!!
[03:54] <senobuntu> wot rusia
[03:54] <Ungbay> if someone is running cairo, you'll know it
[03:54] <igorzolnikov> first xxx-common... next xxx
[03:54] <igorzolnikov> ?
[03:54] <njan> sybariten, glad you liked it ;)
[03:55] <sybariten> njan: honestly, i laughed til i cracked open my pants, as well as barfed up my breakfast
[03:55] <sybariten> (or not)
[03:55] <hastesaver> igorzolnikov, you can just do them all together, you don't have to do it one at a time :)
[03:55] <sybariten> i think i will ask my question in the python chan though, as they may know ...
[03:56] <senobuntu> mai dai
[03:56] <igorzolnikov> how?
[03:56] <senobuntu> mai da
[03:56] <MachineCheckExce> hi
[03:56] <senobuntu> gavaris riusky
[03:56] <claes> igorzolnikov, sudo aptitude purge zzz-common xxx-common qqq-common then sudo aptitude install zzz-common xxx-common qqq-common and so on.
[03:57] <igorzolnikov> ok
[03:57] <senobuntu> sudo sudo
[03:57] <senobuntu> tak gavari
[03:57] <Marlun> what should I install to be able to ssh to my server, "ssh" package or "openssh-server"? Which one is better.
[03:57] <RandolphCarter> aptitude show ssh
[03:57] <MachineCheckExce> i just bought a new AMD64 machine and i've got problems installing linux (amd64 bits versions of course)
[03:57] <MachineCheckExce> CPU 0: Machine Check Exception: 4 Bank 4: b200000000070f0f
[03:57] <MachineCheckExce> TSC 3eb4f7a737
[03:57] <MachineCheckExce> Kernel Panic - not syncing: Machine check
[03:57] <MachineCheckExce> _
[03:57] <MachineCheckExce> that's it
[03:57] <RandolphCarter> ssh is a metapackage that would install openssh-server and openssh-client
[03:57] <sybariten> oh btw, can someone reccommend a really advanced FTP client ?
[03:57] <Boulzor> is it normal to have error with Mercury Messenger ??
[03:57] <senobuntu> siastok
[03:57] <MachineCheckExce> given a certain pint, it hangs up with that
[03:58] <MachineCheckExce> i think i have to disable the 'mce'
[03:58] <Ng> sybariten: lftp
[03:58] <sybariten> Ng: console ?
[03:58] <claes> sybariten, lftp ncftp
[03:58] <Ng> sybariten: yes
[03:58] <Nihil_85> hi! i have a big problem
[03:58] <sybariten> Ng: ok ... as i said, i want a really advanced ftp client ...
[03:58] <Marlun> RandolphCarter: ah, sorry for that :P
[03:59] <MachineCheckExce>  i think i have to disable the 'mce' at the booting process of the installation, but i write 'linux nomce' and it keeps happening
[03:59] <RandolphCarter> Marlun: np's :) the 'aptitude show' stuff comes in handy ^_^
[03:59] <MachineCheckExce> plz i need help :p
[03:59] <Ng> sybariten: I doubt any graphical client will be "really advanced", whatever that means
[03:59] <RandolphCarter> MachineCheckExce: I'm not sure you can turn off MCE like that, and generally it indicates a fault with the system
[03:59] <RandolphCarter> MachineCheckExce: does your machine run a 'memtest' okay? (and does the 386 linux have a problem booting)
[04:00] <claes> sybariten, and lftp is a really advanced ftp client. but you could try gftp for a sleazy gui ftp client.
[04:00] <Earthen> anyone know of a good howto for setting up dnsmasq to work poperly as the primary dns on a windows domain?
[04:00] <MachineCheckExce> RandolphCarter the memtest didn't find any error
[04:00] <RandolphCarter> MachineCheckExce: hmm, which amd64 cpu is it?
[04:00] <sybariten> Ng: ok we can turn this into a lengthy flamewar of whether its elite or not to run GUI tools, but i want something that can give me a nice bookmark list
[04:01] <MachineCheckExce> and, i've been unable to boot a 386 kernel. I'm new to 64 bits, is that even possible?
[04:01] <Ng> sybariten: maybe gftp then
[04:01] <sybariten> i want it to throw 6 different options to me when it discovers duplicate files in my queue
[04:01] <MachineCheckExce> uhm one sec
[04:01] <claes> sybariten, Then you can try ncftp or gftp
[04:01] <RandolphCarter> MachineCheckExce: yeah, I'm using a 32-bit linux with a K7 kernel here atm, it saves hassle with things like flash and w32codecs
[04:01] <sybariten> i want those options preferrably to be defined per-server
[04:01] <sybariten> i want to be able to fiddle with the secure options onto the tiniest detail
[04:01] <sybariten> i want to be able to change between active and passive at the blink of an eye, and store that per-server
[04:02] <Ng> ftp isn't secure
[04:02] <sybariten> well i think you see what i mean. i did _not_ come here without any ideas of what i'm looking for
[04:02] <sybariten> Ng: google sftp
[04:02] <claes> sybariten, Security options in ftp client? Use scp in ssh if you want security
[04:02] <MachineCheckExce> RandolphCarter: CPU AMD SEMPRON 3100+ SK754
[04:02] <Ng> sybariten: sftp and ftp are completely different
[04:02] <Tinned_Tuna> in order to mount an NFS share, do I need to run a portmap demon on the client?
[04:02] <sybariten> Ng: not from a users perspective, no
[04:03] <Ng> sybariten: irrelevant
[04:03] <muszek> my Open Office doesn't start (in Dapper).  What else can read .ods files?
[04:03] <MachineCheckExce> RandolphCarter: it can be a possible solution to use a 32-bit linux, is it easy to do so?
[04:03] <sybariten> Ng: no .... its not ... i know that you're trying to teach me something or show that i'm wrong, but puhhleease
[04:03] <njan> MachineCheckExce, 32-bit linux will install and run just fine on a 64-bit machine
[04:03] <Earthen> muszek, think you can use abiword
[04:04] <claes> sybariten, Try gftp it handles ftp and sftp on server to server basis. And it's in the default installation of ubuntu if I remember correctly.
[04:04] <MachineCheckExce> njan thanks, i'll try that then ;)
[04:04] <sybariten> what i essentially am looking for is something that comes close to flashfxp but i dont think that exists
[04:04] <planetcall> goodnight everybody
[04:04] <Ng> sybariten: my point is entirely valid. ftp is an insecure protocol, sftp is a secure protocol, the two are different, even though some graphical clients hide the differences. Look at gftp or filezilla - beyond that, nautilus' support for ftp/sftp, or lftp/ncftp you're pretty much out of options
[04:04] <sybariten> claes: ok thanks!
[04:04] <HB> i must go to bed ,goodbye everyone!
[04:04] <HB> thans for your help
[04:05] <sybariten> if you ask me, filezilla is not very stable or advanced but i may have had exceptionally bad experiences
[04:05] <claes> sybariten, And nautilus handles that too. And that I know it's in the default installation of ubuntu.
[04:05] <MachineCheckExce> njan: although i think that it would also be interesting to be able to fix this issue :p, i mean been able to disable mce
[04:05] <nollidj> are there any guides to streamlining an ubuntu installation?
[04:05] <MachineCheckExce> acpi=off maybe?
[04:06] <sybariten> Ng: i know too that sftp != ftp, that ftp is insecure, etc yadda yadda yadda and we can prolly go on all afternoon on who is "right" and not, but the fact remains the same: i was just looking for a client that handles secure file transfers as well as normal ftp, and does it elegantly
[04:06] <Ng> sybariten: well I've given you as many answers are there are, so you can continue to argue the point to yourself in #ubuntu-offtopic or actually go and investigate the options I suggested
[04:06] <muszek> Earthen:  it's a spreadsheet
[04:06] <sybariten> ng: i will, thanks
[04:07] <Earthen> muszek, try maybe koffice
[04:07] <nollidj> i'm on some older hardware, and it would be nice to disable a lot of stuff that isn't needed (like lvm) on a machine like this
[04:07] <drew_> I have learned something in the past 2 days of linux
[04:07] <drew_> sources sux
[04:07] <Tinned_Tuna> i thought Gnumeric opened .ods?
[04:08] <CokeNCode> drew_ how so ?
[04:08] <drew_> but linux is easier than I thought
[04:08] <drew_> I cant get anything to work from sources
[04:08] <CokeNCode> hey guys, i want to start compiling code, instead of just using apt-get all hte time ... can anyone help me out
[04:08] <sybariten> (its just that this is a very common *nix thing - you come asking if theres a tool that does this or that, maybe like the XP equivalent xyz. then instead of saying "there is no tool like that" or "we dont know a *nix tool like that", some people can just go on forever with "why would you want to do THAT? nautilus handles image viewing just perfectly, and thats all _i_ need" .... or something
[04:08] <sybariten> )
[04:08] <nollidj> another issue is that, whenever i apt-get dist-upgrade and get a new kernel in the process, the automagic grub configuration gets the partition i'm installed on wrong. any good way to fix that?
[04:08] <CokeNCode> sybariten let it go
[04:09] <nollidj> does anyone know of any centers for documentation on things like this?
[04:09] <njan> nollidj, look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:09] <njan> nollidj, the information ont he kernel line it's generated comes from the options at the bottom of the file which are commented out.
[04:10] <claes> sybariten, Well I answers the questions I get. And if someone ask me for an advanced ftp client I answer with the advanced ftp clients I know about. But then if you had asked for a ftp client that also can handle sft my answer woud have been different.
[04:10] <nollidj> hmm
[04:10] <njan> nollidj, update-grub uses them to build the actual configuration bit
[04:10] <Ng> sybariten: I wasn't pushing my personal preferences on you, I was just telling you the truth. As I also said, if you want to rant, this is not the place.
[04:10] <drew_> I heta the  hotels use switches which wont let you on p2p networks
[04:10] <drew_> hate*
[04:10] <sybariten> eye know
[04:10] <drew_> and its my dads hotel too
[04:10] <CokeNCode> guys, let's focus on my issue, you are beating a dead horse
[04:10] <Ng> CokeNCode: the first step is to install the build-essential package
[04:11] <RandolphCarter> lmao, well go order the network security guys around
[04:11] <sybariten> CokeNCode: search the forums for build-essential
[04:11] <sybariten> it may even be in the wiki
[04:11] <CokeNCode> ok
[04:11] <nollidj> njan: got it, thanks
[04:11] <RandolphCarter> you _are_ the bosses child after all, just threaten to say they're incompetent or something :)
[04:11] <njan> nollidj, cool
[04:11] <CokeNCode> can't i just do an apt-get build-essential ?
[04:11] <drew_> anybody know how to use visual boy adavance
[04:11] <sybariten> CokeNCode: hells yeah
[04:11] <drew_> yes coke u can
[04:11] <Ng> CokeNCode: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:11] <njan> drew_, it won't have anything to do with the switch
[04:11] <sybariten> as tweeners said, when Belleck asked him if he too like dipping the freedom fries in the milkshake
[04:11] <CokeNCode> hmmm, i'm ssh ing into my machine right now ... i'm guessing i'll have to exit bitchx before i can try running any of those commadns
[04:12] <drew_> thats what I heard the switch and the modem
[04:12] <njan> drew_, they're either using egress filtering to block the specific ports the filesharing client uses, or using a firewall/IPS/ISP that intelligently detects P2p traffic and drops it.
[04:12] <nollidj> ...and, is there any decent way to keep my installed version of ndiswrapper from being overwritten when i apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:12] <sybariten> CokeNCode: didnt quite understand that last one
[04:12] <RandolphCarter> njan: you can do that on some high end switches too
[04:12] <njan> drew_, a switch moves data from one port to another, it doesn't drop traffic based on a usage policy, that's what a firewall's for.
[04:12] <drew_> or maybe its the computer hooked up to the hotels national server thingy that blocked it
[04:12] <Ng> CokeNCode: yes, but you could always use screen to run both in a single terminal
[04:12] <njan> RandolphCarter, generally those have routing/firewall engines, and are hybrid devices.
[04:12] <nollidj> hmm, on second thought it might not be an issue of being overwritten all the time, so forget it
[04:13] <CokeNCode> oh wait, i just opened another putty
[04:13] <njan> RandolphCarter, the 3com corebuilders and high-end cisco 6500/7200 series devices, for instance, have routing engines afaik
[04:13] <RandolphCarter> njan: ahh, that'll be my confusion then, we run those cisco's at work
[04:13] <njan> RandolphCarter, :)
[04:13] <drew_> we have 3 switches a motorola surf board cable modem one linksys (100 hb or switch dont know what it is) and one computer to the hotel's server
[04:14] <njan> RandolphCarter, most network devices nowadays, unfortunately, aren't as somple as a "router", "firewall", etc.. it makes life very hard ;)
[04:14] <CokeNCode> ok, i'm installing build-essential as we speak ... what next ?
[04:14] <CokeNCode> yeh, it's done
[04:14] <RandolphCarter> njan: I think this is why I went into software eng. and not networking ;)
[04:14] <brandon> one more day, folks...
[04:14] <Ng> CokeNCode: install any development packages you need and get compiling :)
[04:14] <njan> drew_, this is a bit OT. I'll discuss it with you in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want
[04:14] <njan> RandolphCarter, :D
[04:14] <CokeNCode> Ng hmmm, ok thanks
[04:14] <drew_> okay
[04:14] <drew_> let me connect to it
[04:14] <CokeNCode> so, what ... i just use g++ or gcc ?
[04:14] <njan> RandolphCarter, I'm an Infrastructure/Security Consultant, I have to do a little of everything :P
[04:14] <CokeNCode> can i use something graphical ?
[04:15] <Ng> CokeNCode: are you wanting to write code or compile other people's?
[04:15] <claes> CokeNCode, g++ is for c++ code and gcc is for c code.
[04:15] <CokeNCode> Ng a bit of both actually
[04:15] <CokeNCode> and tinker with other people's code also
[04:15] <Lin> hi all... Maybe im wrong but dia project changed his name? how it's called cause there isn't dia-gnome or dia package on ubuntu repositories.
[04:15] <gnomefreak> anjuta
[04:15] <drew_> njan im in it
[04:15] <Ng> CokeNCode: you could use something like anjuta to write your own and most of the time, source releases include enough magic scripts that you can just do "./configure && make && sudo make install"
[04:15] <CokeNCode> claes isn't C is a subset of C++ ? so wouldn't g++ be for both ?
[04:15] <gnomefreak> it has a setting you can set gcc to be compiler that way you hit compile and poof
[04:16] <Ng> Lin: it should be there, perhaps your repositories aren't configured properly?
[04:16] <Ng> !tell Lin about sources
[04:16] <FireCat> Has anyone been able to get smtp auth to work with postfix using saslauthd?
[04:16] <gnomefreak> CokeNCode: not really i think with c++ you can use both not sure about C though
[04:16] <claes> CokeNCode, Nope 2 different programming languages.
[04:16] <CokeNCode> Ng ok, i downloaded anjuta ... does it have a gui front end ?
[04:16] <RandolphCarter> CokeNCode: C++ is derived from C, it changes some things, and really isn't C99 compatible, so no
[04:16] <CokeNCode> how can i run gui stuff remotely ?
[04:17] <Ng> CokeNCode: yes, anjuta *is* a graphical frontend (or rather, a full development environment)
[04:17] <amphi> CokeNCode: ssh -X
[04:17] <sybariten> CokeNCode: if youo havent programmed antyhing at all under *nix before, it may be an idea to install the build-essential and then do some classic tool-installation, compile-stylee. In other words, just installing stuff and removing, without tinkering
[04:17] <CokeNCode> amphi i'm on a windows box at work ... but i guess that is off topic huh ?
[04:17] <claes> CokeNCode, vino or ssh -X (depends on the os on the computers)
[04:18] <amphi> CokeNCode: there are X servers for win32, cygwin for one
[04:18] <claes> CokeNCode, vnc client on the windows and activate vino in gnome.
[04:18] <CokeNCode> hmmm
[04:19] <J_P> hi all
[04:19] <CokeNCode> ok thanks guys, that's plenty to work with for now
[04:20] <claes> CokeNCode, Hope you have fun.....
[04:21] <drew_> so guys
[04:21] <drew_> anybody care to help me with visual boy advance
[04:21] <Tinned_Tuna> hmm
[04:22] <claes> drew_, Never used it so sorry I have no ide.
[04:31] <rdz> hi all. i can't get any sound of my soundcard anymore. also in the alsamixer there is no slider in the master-channel. when i start the system, i see a line: 'i810_audio disabled in configuration'. suddenly i don't know where to enable it again.
[04:33] <firedrops> is there an easy way to video capture the desktop? i've installed xgl and i wanted to show it to my window$ friends :X
[04:33] <amphi> firedrops: make them buy tickets to see it ;)
[04:33] <RadiantFire> firedrops: I know there are some programs for doing that, I just can't remember what they are called
[04:33] <RadiantFire> lol, tickets :-)
[04:33] <VIMmer> hi, is it possible for me to reinstall dapper without having to reinstall all my applications?
[04:33] <firedrops> lol that would be fun
[04:33] <firedrops> :X
[04:34] <CokeNCode> how much bandwidth does an ssh connection use if i'm only doing something like say ... running BitchX on the remote pc ?
[04:34] <firedrops> RadiantFire, :|
[04:34] <amphi> CokeNCode: not much
[04:34] <VIMmer> its possible on the mac, so i was wondering if i could do the same with linux too
[04:34] <Lin> ng.. I have multiverse and restricted on my repositories.
[04:34] <amphi> CokeNCode: -C will make it less
[04:35] <Lin> ng and universe too.
[04:35] <CokeNCode> hmmm, ok, what does -C do ?
[04:35] <amphi> CokeNCode: man ssh has the details ;)
[04:35] <NoUse> VIMmer I don't think its possible in the same way but you can get a list of all package states (installed/uninstalled) and then with one command put all packages back the way they were
[04:36] <Krpano> ...
[04:37] <EvilGuru> what is the name of the gtk theme used in Dapper?
[04:37] <claes> firedrops, You can do that with istanbul
[04:38] <claes> EvilGuru, Human
[04:39] <EvilGuru> I really like it and fancy it for my Gentoo PC (with a blue colour scheme)
[04:40] <hosler> i just want to say that dapper drake is awesome
[04:40] <salmiak> agreed
[04:40] <hosler> a lot faster boot up and breezy
[04:40] <EvilGuru> I will third that
[04:40] <hosler> than*
[04:40] <EvilGuru> best release yet
[04:40] <hosler> i think the nvidia drivers are better too
[04:40] <hosler> starcraft runs a lot better on drake than on badger
[04:41] <claes> EvilGuru, I think the theme is in the ubuntu-artwork package.
[04:41] <hosler> oh yeah, doesnt dapper have a sweet theme?
[04:41] <hosler> that i can install
[04:41] <NoUse> hosler might be the newer version of wine as well
[04:41] <runes> Drapper has much better driver support than breezy
[04:42] <hosler> NoUse: no, im using cedega
[04:42] <andax> how do I force a reiserfs check for / on the next reboot? I tried touch /forcefsck but it's ignored. (dapper)
[04:42] <NoUse> hosler ah ok
[04:42] <claes> dapper is great but i already looking forward to all the bugs in edgy development. :-)
[04:43] <ompaul> !dapper
[04:43] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[04:43] <hosler> i havnt found any yet
[04:43] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[04:43] <NoUse> andax you could start ubuntu in recovery mode and run a manual check
[04:43] <ompaul> dapper lives in this #ubuntu+1
[04:43] <RadiantFire> so, I'm trying to map hotkeys to my multimedia buttons on this laptop
[04:43] <RadiantFire> I can get a keycode out of xev, but when I press the key in the scim setup, nothing happens
[04:43] <RadiantFire> and no keycode appears
[04:43] <RadiantFire> and I'm not allowed to type it in manually
[04:43] <RadiantFire> anyone knows whats up?
[04:44] <ompaul> andax, sudo shutdown -F now
[04:45] <ompaul> andax, shutdown the machine now and when you turn it on again it forces a recheck
[04:46] <andax> ompaul, it just plays back the journal or does something like that. i would need a real rescan for the whole filesystem
[04:46] <andax> but .. let's see how this recovery mode works
[04:46] <igorzolnikov> where can i found (find) radio for Music Player?
[04:46] <andax> thanks all
[04:48] <tRSS> quick question: I have setup my fstab to mount network shares automatically. but I what I don't understand is that it shows the network shares to everyone who logs in? how can I change that?
[04:48] <Marlun> is it build-essential that I should install to be able to compile and install applications from source-code?
[04:48] <CokeNCode> Marlun yes
[04:48] <gnomefreak> Marlun: yes
[04:48] <funky> hi
[04:49] <funky> iB  sun-java5-bin  <- what does that 'B' mean? broken ?
[04:49] <Zambezi> Which antivirus for Linux is the most sutible? Free of course. No payware.
[04:49] <gnomefreak> funky: the package is sun-java5-bin i dont know where you got the iB from
[04:50] <Marlun> thank you, both of you :)
[04:50] <gnomefreak> Zambezi: clamav imho
[04:50] <hosler> Zabezi: i have yet to ever infect my computer with a virus. not a lot of them infect linux computers yet, but I still consider myself a newb.
[04:50] <Zambezi> gnomefreak: But is it good? There are several versions.
[04:51] <hosler> Zabezi, search google for Avast anti virus. I think they have a linux version out.
[04:51] <Zambezi> gnomefreak: NOD32 for Windows is the best I used.
[04:51] <gnomefreak> yes it is good i think its top of line but thats an opinion
[04:51] <Zambezi> hosler: I know. And Sophos. And something with K, not Kaspersky.
[04:52] <tuxtheslacker> hey, what version of firefox comes out unutu after you run all of the updates?
[04:52] <hosler> like an old one
[04:52] <tuxtheslacker> and if it's less than 1.5.01, how can I upgrade it?
[04:52] <Zambezi> hosler: K was Bitdefender. ;-)
[04:52] <hosler> ok
[04:52] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: on breezy?
[04:52] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, mmhmm.
[04:53] <hosler> is installing windows xp on a virtual machine just to get dreamweaver 8 working going too far?
[04:53] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: type lsb_release -a and tell me what it says
[04:53] <nixe> how do install a *.tgz file?
[04:53] <gnomefreak> hosler: yes try nvu or bluefish
[04:53] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, Description:    Ubuntu (The Breezy Badger Release)
[04:53] <tuxtheslacker> Release:        5.10
[04:53] <hosler> nixe, tgz files are usualy for freebsd or slackware, but they can also be just compressed tar files i think.
[04:53] <funky> g
[04:54] <funky> gnomefreak: I know what package it is
[04:54] <hosler> nixe: what are you trying to install?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> nixe: depends what it is but i would run tar xvzf file.tar and than read the readme and install files
[04:54] <gnomefreak> nixe: depends what it is but i would run tar xvzf file.tar and than read the readme and install files is latest for breezy
[04:54] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, ^^ :-D in case you didn't see it.
[04:54] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[04:54] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:54] <gnomefreak> ^^ tuxtheslacker to upgrade
[04:54] <tuxtheslacker> thanks.
[04:54] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: ^^ link for you
[04:54] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:55] <hosler> gnomefreak: i have nvu and bluefish
[04:55] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: follow it word for word and you will have no issues
[04:55] <hosler> and i dont like htem
[04:55] <gnomefreak> hosler: it will run in wine iirc but i personally dont htink its worth it
[04:55] <krang> hey hey, is there generally any kind of issue with support for CD burners? I'm about to buy one and want to be sure it'll work.
[04:56] <hosler> i love dreamweaver 8
[04:56] <gnomefreak> krang: ive used 6-7 different types and had no issues
[04:56] <hosler> krang: cd burners are the best thing since zip drives
[04:57] <nixe> when I try to run a SH file, it says I dont have permission to create folders, hopw do I set that permisison?
[04:58] <krang> hosler: damn straight, that's why I want a working one!
[04:58] <badman> hi
[04:58] <krang> gnomefreak: you had LG and/orsamsungs going?
[04:58] <gnomefreak> nixe: chmod
[04:58] <badman> how to run vmplayer or qemu from the terminal not from the terminal under the X
[04:58] <badman> ????
[04:59] <gnomefreak> samsung was one of them iirc there is also a light-on one fairly cheap but works good
[04:59] <badman> must i install a kind of SDL?
[04:59] <krang> gnomefreak: I don't suppose you'd happen to recall the model number? :-)
[04:59] <badman> so any idea?
[05:00] <gnomefreak> hold on the box isnt far
[05:00] <disinterested_pe> gnome ive got a lite-on
[05:00] <krang> sweet
[05:01] <badman> there is any equivalent of revdep-rebuild under ubuntu(or debian)??
[05:01] <NoUse> badman what does revdep-rebuild do?
[05:01] <l> can someone tell me how to get a desktop working on top of a server install?
[05:02] <NoUse> l sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <gnomefreak> one is Aopen it doesnt give a model number but its x dvd+- r/rw double layer
[05:03] <selwyn> hi all
[05:03] <gnomefreak> the liteon box i have is for dvd player not writer
[05:03] <l> can someone tell me how to change my console font?
[05:03] <disinterested_pe> thats the same as the lite-on gnome
[05:04] <CokeNCode> hmmm, is there a console based soulseek clone for linux ?
[05:04] <krang> gnomefreak: never mind, thanks anyway!
[05:04] <CokeNCode> or a clone of any decent p2p software for that matter that is console based
[05:04] <badman> i want to run application that require SDL under the terminal NoUse
[05:04] <gnomefreak> i have a Optorite CW 4801 cd burner (also good)
[05:04] <krang> anyone else got any experience of burners *not* working under ubuntu?
[05:05] <gnomefreak> ty disinterested_pe
[05:05] <babo> This is a message I just got from my host about why my server went down...   It appears your server has kernel paniced, at times, this can be caused by a simple missconfiguration which can be resolved upon rebooting the server.  There is no specific reason for the kernel panic as the server hardlocked at the start_kernel line.  Please advise if you wish to proceed with a reboot to see if this corrects the problem, Thank you.
[05:05] <NoUse> badman install sdl via synaptic
[05:05] <badman> i'm under the terminal now
[05:05] <NoUse> badman or apt-get
[05:05] <NoUse> !tell badman about apt-get
[05:05] <badman> what's the name of the package?
[05:05] <gnomefreak> babo: reboot
[05:06] <gnomefreak> badman: apt-cache search sdl
[05:06] <gnomefreak> might want to use the |less pipe
[05:06] <gnomefreak> brb smoke maybe lunch befor meeting
[05:07] <brettzilla> hello, i was wondering if someone could help me
[05:07] <badman> can you do it for me and then telling me the name of the package gnomefreak ?
[05:07] <babo> gnomefreak: any ideas what could have caused this ... I mean this is linux right ? ... the most stable of OS's. I was just emac'ing at the time ...
[05:08] <brettzilla> i have sound on everything BUT flash, is there a way to enable sound in flash? I want it to use my better sound card, rather than the built in one..
[05:08] <badman> gtk doesn't require sdl??
[05:08] <Otsego> hi guys, I need some help here
[05:09] <Otsego> I have installed dapper drake on my new Intel Mac, but I did not install a bootloader (that has to be done manually later)
[05:09] <Otsego> I then booted up gentoo from a live cd and chrooted into ubuntu
[05:09] <badman> can we run gtk w/o runing the X???
[05:09] <Otsego> problem is, I cant install lilo since apt-get wants to install lilo from the dapper drake cd, but I cant put in the cd since gentoo is there
[05:10] <squid> #ubuntu-es
[05:10] <Otsego> so, how can I install lilo to ubuntu by using apt-get?
[05:10] <chavo> badman, yes there's a port that runs on framebuffer
[05:11] <chavo> badman, http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/gtk-framebuffer.html
[05:12] <squid> HOLA
[05:12] <squid> alguien me podria orientar como configurar un modem adsl bajo ubuntu breezy
[05:12] <brettzilla> i have sound on everything BUT flash, is there a way to enable sound in flash? I want it to use my better sound card, rather than the built in one..
[05:16] <tested2> Brett, unless you need both sound cards you should just disable the ondboard card in your bios
[05:17] <Frogzoo> has anyone succesfully got WoW to install with wine .9.14 ?
[05:17] <thaytan> heya
[05:17] <Otsego> okay, can anyone provide me with some of their lines from apt-get sources list so I can install lilo?
[05:17] <Frogzoo> !lilo
[05:17] <ubotu> Frogzoo: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:18] <thaytan> I just did an upgrade on dapper which hauled in new fglrx stuff and broke my GL
[05:18] <NoUse> !tell Otsego about repos
[05:18] <NoUse> thaytan ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:18] <Frogzoo> thaytan: #ubuntu+1 for dapper - for about 1 more day
[05:18] <seeker> pretty cool, this XChat software.
[05:18] <Otsego> thanks NoUse, that really helps, owe you one
[05:18] <thaytan> NoUse: Frogzoo: ah, ta
[05:19] <visik7> is niagara T1 compatible with sparc64 arch ^
[05:19] <visik7> ?
[05:22] <gonzalez> antonio gonzalez alvarez
[05:23] <gonzalez> cvdv bdvbx
[05:24] <drew_> can some1 help me
[05:24] <NoUse> !helpme
[05:24] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[05:25] <skippy81> drew_,  fire away
[05:25] <drew_> well I got visual boy advance but I dont know how to run the games or load a gui
[05:25] <skippy81> its a gameboy emulator? do you have .rom files?
[05:26] <drew_> yes I have .gbc and .gba
[05:26] <drew_> yea it is a emu
[05:26] <pedrocr> why is the nagios in ubuntu so old?
[05:26] <skippy81> im installing it now drew_ i will tell you how to run it in second
[05:26] <drew_> k thx
[05:27] <skippy81> sounds like fun, i might play a bit of pokemon tonight :P
[05:27] <drew_> yea Ive been playing pokemon on my psp its sad Im 14 quit pokemon along time ago
[05:27] <pjw> Hi all, Will the new version of Ubuntu be?
[05:28] <pjw> tomorrow
[05:28] <drew_> 6.10
[05:28] <drew_> nope thursday
[05:28] <drew_> tommorow is the 31st
[05:28] <skippy81> v6 dapper drake rc1  Pjw released june 1st
[05:28] <kevor> !restricted format
[05:28] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kevor
[05:28] <drew_> I thought it was tommorow to
[05:28] <NoUse> drew_ depends on where you are :-)
[05:28] <kevor> !restricted formats
[05:28] <ubotu> I guess restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or '!codecs'
[05:28] <skippy81> just download it now Pjw
[05:29] <CokeNCode> console based p2p client folks ... can anyone offer any suggestions
[05:29] <tuxtheslacker> hey, can someone tell me why exactly mplayer is acting very choppy?
[05:30] <NoUse> tuxtheslacker playing DVDs or all video?
[05:31] <skippy81> ok drew_  heres the score, when you install visualboy it will create a hidden folder called .vba in your home folder
[05:31] <drew_> how do u install it
[05:31] <drew_> i got the source sdl
[05:32] <drew_> and ran the vba exe in it
[05:32] <skippy81> drew_,  you need to find a game boy rom file and put it in that folder, then you just use "vba nameofrom" to run it
[05:32] <tuxtheslacker> NoUse, all videos
[05:32] <skippy81> vba doesnt come with any games i dont think
[05:32] <drew_> nope
[05:32] <Frogzoo> can someone tell me if the wine's directory /windows/fonts is supposed to contain font files?
[05:32] <skippy81> they should be in the .rom format, try googling
[05:32] <drew_> so lets say I have pokemon.gbc how would i run it
[05:33] <skippy81> go into you home folder and press control-h
[05:33] <mimi_working> I am having a problem I have not ever seen before, here is the pastebin of the error, if anyone wants to take a look and offer some more perspective? http://pastebin.com/746937
[05:33] <drew_> what will control h do
[05:33] <skippy81> copythe rom into the .vba folder
[05:33] <NoUse> tuxtheslacker could be video drivers
[05:33] <skippy81> control h shows hidden files in nautilus file browser
[05:33] <tuxtheslacker> NoUse, I believe I'm using the stock radeons?
[05:34] <drew_> well I told u I dont have it installed I was using the source
[05:34] <jaek> hald is taking a very long time to start and after logging into gnome, i get a dialog saying "failed to initialize hald" and nautilus takes 10 minutes to start up... anyone know anything about this?
[05:34] <tuxtheslacker> Section "Device"
[05:34] <tuxtheslacker> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. FireGL Mobility T2 (M10 NT)"
[05:34] <tuxtheslacker> 	Driver		"ati"
[05:34] <tuxtheslacker> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[05:34] <NoUse> tuxtheslacker you may try the binary ATI drivers
[05:34] <NoUse> tuxtheslacker please don't paste in here
[05:34] <drew_> could u pm me or something to guide me threw it
[05:34] <NoUse> !tell tuxtheslacker about ati
[05:34] <tuxtheslacker> NoUse, I want to avoid tainting the kernel....
[05:34] <mimi_working> tuxtheslacker try getting a program called "automatix" it helps with alot of driver issues, like Radeon and Nvidia
[05:34] <skippy81> just download vba from synaptic drew_  and copy roms into /home/yourname/.vba/
[05:34] <jaek> !tell jaek about ati
[05:34] <tuxtheslacker> NoUse, is the "radeon" driver still on here?
[05:35] <drew_> vba is in synaptic
[05:35] <NoUse> tuxtheslacker I'm not sure, I gave up on ATI a while ago :-)
[05:35] <skippy81> yes drew_
[05:35] <gean> Hi all !
[05:35] <drew_> oh that could helped if I knew
[05:35] <skippy81> sudo apt-get visualboyadvance
[05:36] <skippy81> you need to enable multiverse and universe before it will show up though
[05:36] <mimi_working> or sudo apt-get instal visualboyadvance, to install it for you as well
[05:36] <mimi_working> install, sorry
[05:36] <C_REATiVE_> hy
[05:36] <skippy81> yeah mini_working is right you need to add the word install to my command :)
[05:36] <drew_> I got synpatic to do it for me
[05:36] <skippy81> ok cool
[05:36] <tuxtheslacker> does anyone know if there is a "radeon" driver for ubuntu?
[05:37] <skippy81> yes there are 3 tuxtheslacker
[05:37] <drew_> i still cant belive I didnt know i could get it from synaptic
[05:37] <skippy81> !ati
[05:37] <ubotu> [ati]  http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:37] <tuxtheslacker> skippy81, what are the three?
[05:37] <NoUse> tuxtheslacker you could rerun the xorg config and see if its listed
[05:37] <tuxtheslacker> I think "radeon is the one I had.
[05:37] <NoUse> !tell tuxtheslacker about xorg
[05:37] <drew_> now my linux will be one step closer to be complete
[05:37] <CokeNCode> if i ssh into my linux box, and use a console based mp3 player, will i be able to listen to my music over the ssh connection ?
[05:37] <mimi_working> tuxtheslacker: as I saidm try a program called 'automatix' it helps with alot of driver issues for radeon and nvidia, and installs other nice things for you, like jre and firefox 1.5
[05:37] <chowells2> CokeNCode: no
[05:37] <NoUse> !automatix
[05:37] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[05:37] <CokeNCode> darn
[05:37] <Ng> mimi_working: don't recomment automatix
[05:38] <Ng> -t+d
[05:38] <skippy81> "ati" and "radion" are free drivers, "fglrx" is the official one
[05:38] <mimi_working> whoa.. I had no idea! thanks!
[05:38] <CokeNCode> automatix worked great for me, why don't the guys in here recommend it ?
[05:38] <drew_> how do I put vba in the games folder
[05:38] <Ng> CokeNCode: because it's very poorly written
[05:38] <NoUse> !tell CokeNCode about automatix
[05:38] <tuxtheslacker> skippy81, I just needed to know if Radeon shipped with the kernel.
[05:38] <mimi_working> glad I did not use it... a friend reccomended it to me, thankies
[05:38] <idigthought> does anyone know how to prevent a kernel module from loading?
[05:39] <mwhitby> hi all
[05:39] <drew_> how do i run vba now and how do i put it in the games folder
[05:39] <skippy81> tuxtheslacker, i think it will have, try enabling "radion" in 'sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[05:39] <Ng> drew_: you can put things in the menus with a menu editor such as "smeg" (available on breezy)
[05:39] <CokeNCode> how does easyubuntu measure up against automatix, for the home user ,,, that's only just starting out
[05:39] <drew_> smeg okay
[05:39] <tuxtheslacker> skippy81, I think it's readon?
[05:39] <tuxtheslacker> radeon*
[05:39] <mimi_working> I think you would just move the roms to the folder, via the GUI or the terminal like... mv filename placeitgoes
[05:40] <skippy81> tuxtheslacker, give reconfigure xorg a try
[05:40] <skippy81> what card do you have anyway?
[05:40] <gnomefreak> CokeNCode: its safer than automatix
[05:40] <tuxtheslacker> skippy81, I'd rather not break my xorg.conf that badly... I'll play with it by hand :-P
[05:40] <mwhitby> i have a question: I'm trying to use fetchmail on Ubuntu but can't work out how to get the downloaded mail delivered to a local account
[05:40] <mwhitby> can anyone help?
[05:40] <skippy81> ok well make sure you have a backup
[05:41] <mimi_working> I am having a problem I have not ever seen before, here is the pastebin of the error, if anyone wants to take a look and offer some more perspective? http://pastebin.com/746937
[05:41] <skippy81> mwhitby,  try searching your disc for a file called "fetchmail.rc"
[05:41] <skippy81> or maybe fetchmailrc
[05:42] <mwhitby> hi skippy - sorry, I forgot to mention that I have made a .fetchmailrc in my own user account
[05:42] <mwhitby> the configuration is as follows:
[05:42] <ubuntu> hi
[05:42] <mimi_working> hello
[05:42] <ubuntu> where is kde in ubuntu live ???
[05:42] <skippy81> ubuntu,  it only comes with kubunu
[05:42] <mimi_working> ya what skippy81
[05:43] <tested2> you want kubuntu not ubuntu, ubuntu
[05:43] <ubuntu> ooh no
[05:43] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: once ubuntu is installed you can apt-get kubuntu-desktop ;)
[05:43] <AJ004> !fixres
[05:43] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:43] <mwhitby> skippy81: "(server)" proto pop3 user "(username)" pass "(password)" is "ubuntu" here
[05:44] <mwhitby> though my real file contains some line breaks and the parts in () are the correct entries
[05:44] <ubuntu> sooh what is password for root in ubuntu live ?
[05:44] <tested2> isnt one
[05:44] <skippy81> ok what happens when you type "fetchmail" from a terminal mwhitby?
[05:44] <KenSentMe> !root
[05:44] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:44] <mwhitby> an interesting point that might help you is that i previously had 2 more directives: smtphost and smtpname (to forward the mail to another remote user) and these worked fine
[05:44] <ubuntu> what ?!
[05:44] <Jimmey__> How can I convert .wavs to .mp3, or similar?
[05:44] <ubuntu> what a shit!!!
[05:44] <mwhitby> skippy81, it lists the mail it is fetching and skipping (as i keep read mail so it skips it)
[05:45] <KarlsBerg> hello
[05:45] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: watch your language please
[05:45] <mimi_working> Jimmey__: I use lame
[05:45] <KenSentMe> ubuntu: check the url u got from ubotu
[05:45] <tested2> ubuntu the live cd has no root password however if you install the everything is done through sudo with the userspassword
[05:45] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: use sudo
[05:45] <gnomefreak> KenSentMe: its not gonna help him
[05:45] <ubuntu> ok thx
[05:45] <ubuntu> CU
[05:45] <raptros-v76> ubuntu: to become root use sudo -s
[05:45] <KarlsBerg> why if i install dapper RC and the lan ethernet hardware run perfect without install any package, my lspci show the lan network: UNKNOW DEVICE ?
[05:45] <skippy81> mwhitby, browse to var/mail and see whats in that folder
[05:46] <gnomefreak> KarlsBerg: dapper lives in #ubuntu+1
[05:46] <Spec> KarlsBerg: but it's working?
[05:46] <ShastaMaroon> I am following the ATI driver howto at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, but I am running into problems at the sudo module-assistant line.  I am using ATI's drivers.  module-assistant says it can't find the kernel headers.
[05:46] <KenSentMe> gnomefreak: i know, just trying
[05:46] <mwhitby> skippy81, ok one second
[05:46] <KarlsBerg> Spec:  yes
[05:46] <Spec> KarlsBerg: lspci fails :p
[05:46] <skippy81> mwhitby normall all your mails will gather in a file named after your username in an mbox format
[05:46] <KarlsBerg> ums...
[05:46] <skippy81> you then point your mail reader to this file
[05:47] <mwhitby> skippy81, aha - there is a single file called ubuntu which would apepar to contain the mail that was downloaded.
[05:47] <kspath> When is June 1st officially?  23:59 +1  UTC or GMT ?
[05:47] <skippy81> ok good, now whitby you just need to choose an email reader to use
[05:47] <mwhitby> skippy81, I thought that the mail would reside in the home directory of the user
[05:47] <Jimmey__> mimi_working, thankyou.
[05:47] <skippy81> nope, it doesnt - unless your reader program moves it there mwhitby
[05:48] <Cin> Good program for creating/converting to PDF files?
[05:48] <skippy81> for example evolution will take the mail from your maibox folder and move it to your home directory
[05:48] <mwhitby> skippy81, I intend to use procmail to create an autoresponder, I presume procmail works with the configuration I have?
[05:48] <KarlsBerg> and with brezzy the wireless intel 3945, show unknow device and on net asiistance of gnome DONT show the wireless device, now with dapper can see wireless interface on net assistance, but lspci show UNKNOW DEVICE
[05:48] <NoUse> Cin OpenOffice?
[05:48] <KarlsBerg> intel pro 3956 ru perfect on dapper?
[05:48] <KarlsBerg> wireless
[05:48] <Cin> NoUse, hm? I'll try that.
[05:48] <KarlsBerg> 3945
[05:48] <VoX> why doesnt any of the ubuntu kernels support nforce3?
[05:48] <chowells2> KarlsBerg: you need dapper drake for ipw3945
[05:49] <KarlsBerg> yes
[05:49] <VoX> er
[05:49] <skippy81> yes, that is the default unix/linux mail configuration - user mails are stored in /var/mail/ in an mbox format - exactly where procmail will be expecting them to be
[05:49] <KarlsBerg> but why my lspci show bad info ?
[05:49] <VoX> why doesnt any of the ubuntu kernels support nforce3 for i2c hardware monitoring?
[05:49] <kevor> Hi, how can i get aptitude/apt-get to show info about the installed version of a program?
[05:49] <kuene>  i have a problem with evolution. i want to subscribe to other users folders. thy have given me the right to view the Calendar from exchange. the right in exchange are set correctly but evolution says:Permission denied. any help? i have evolution 2.61
[05:49] <mwhitby> skippy81, thanks a lot for your help, I'll get on with configuring procmail now then :)
[05:49] <tuxtheslacker> okay, I have the radeon driver loaded, and mplayer is still running very slowly.
[05:49] <skippy81> ok have fun mwhitby :)
[05:49] <tuxtheslacker> is there a conf or something  ineed to play with?
[05:49] <Cin> Wow sweet. Thanks NoUse. :)
[05:49] <kspath> Vox: because you did not develop support for it or you failed to find out about it?
[05:50] <skippy81> tuxtheslacker, what card do you have?
[05:50] <KarlsBerg> but why my lspci show bad info ? showme unknow devices that runs ok
[05:50] <VoX> kspath: ...huh?
[05:50] <kspath> VoX: When will you support nforce3?
[05:50] <evanpro> I'm having a problem with ia32-libs on amd64
[05:50] <tuxtheslacker> skippy81, ATI radeon mobility T2 123mb GPU
[05:50] <Jimmey__> I'm trying to download a file via torrent, but keep getting timeout errors - I can't connect to anyone. What's the problem?
[05:50] <tuxtheslacker> 218*
[05:50] <evanpro> dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/bin/ldd' with
[05:50] <evanpro>   different file `/usr/bin/ldd.amd64', not allowed
[05:50] <VoX> kspath: what in the hell are you on about.
[05:51] <tuxtheslacker> skippy81, this is the only distro I've had mplayer play slow in....
[05:51] <mwhitby> skippy81, one more question - being as fetchmail writes to /var/mail shoul i run it as root with sudo?
[05:51] <mimi_working> Jimmy__: are you behind a proxy or firewall?
[05:51] <skippy81> no mwhitby it doesnt need priviledge escalation to run it
[05:51] <skippy81> fetchmail will do it fine without the sudo
[05:51] <Jimmey__> mimi_working, yeah - A router, and a firewall
[05:51] <mwhitby> skippy81, cheers
[05:51] <Jimmey__> Should I do some port forwarding?
[05:51] <skippy81> that is because you are simply triggering an internal process :)
[05:52] <ShastaMaroon> VoX nVidia is closed source...which is why it's not included in the kernel, but as downloads from nvidia's website.
[05:52] <ShastaMaroon> err...the other guy
[05:52] <skippy81> tuxtheslacker, troubleshoot with other media players, see if they play better#
[05:52] <mimi_working> Jimmy__: I have no experience in port forwarding so I would not feel right saying "yes" or "no" but, that would probabaly help, OR make sure your using a good bittorrent program, and it is updated and such
[05:52] <tuxtheslacker> skippy81, xine won't install...
[05:52] <nixe> When I try to install with SH it says some files doesn't exist even tho they actually do, how come?
[05:53] <Jimmey__> mimi_working, do you what port?
[05:53] <NoUse> tuxtheslacker what fails when you try to install it
[05:53] <skippy81> tuxtheslacker,  is it a dvd you are trying to play? and also what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:53] <mimi_working> Jimmey__: No, I do not know what port...sorry :(
[05:53] <sybariten> hey, anybodu know if i need to take anything special in consideration when installing python, or is "sudo apt-get install python" the only thing i need to worry about for development?
[05:53] <Jimmey__> It's okay ;)
[05:53] <sybariten> what i mean is, are there different versions of python available
[05:53] <tested2> Jimmey, yes port forwarding yes bit torrent uses a crap ton of ports though http://btfaq.com/serve/cache/25.html
[05:53] <Spec> yes
[05:53] <Spec> python2.3, python2.4
[05:54] <tuxtheslacker> skippy81, no, it's media on my computer, and breezy badger.
[05:54] <skippy81> Jimmey__ forward the whole range of ports 6881-6999 on both udp and tcp to your internal ip
[05:54] <Jimmey__> tested2, will I need to do portforwarding aswell?
[05:54] <tested2> Jimmey, what skippy said
[05:54] <Jimmey__> Okay
[05:54] <tuxtheslacker> and NoUse: it says it's referred to by another program or something to that effect.
[05:54] <skippy81> tuxtheslacker,  i suggest you go through this guide again
[05:54] <skippy81> !restricted
[05:54] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:55] <tuxtheslacker> skippy81, what guide?
[05:55] <NoUse> !tell tuxtheslacker abotu repos
[05:55] <skippy81> make sure all of the codecs are installed, then use totem-gstreamer
[05:55] <NoUse> !tell tuxtheslacker about repos
[05:55] <skippy81> the guide ubotu just listed tuxtheslacker
[05:55] <NoUse> tuxtheslacker you need to add repos
[05:55] <mimi_working> sybariten: you can like... apt-cache search python , to see all python related packages if you would like
[05:56] <skippy81> NoUse, what does (exclamation) tell do?
[05:56] <skippy81> is it like a whisper from the bot?
[05:56] <kspath> !tell skippy81 about help
[05:56] <NoUse> skippy81 its like 'ubuntu,' so it msgs the user instead of posting it to the channel
[05:56] <skippy81> ah i see thanks :)
[05:57] <kspath> skippy81:  !tell allows you to tell a nick about a factoid
[05:57] <nixe> isnt it possile to add some things to sh to make it find it like sh -letter ?
[05:57] <skippy81> :)
[05:57] <sybariten> mimi_working: yeah, i know ...
[05:58] <skippy81> im really new to irc, i had no idea it was so much fun :)
[05:58] <JIV> what does mean:  /init 1: fstype : not found      in booting?
[05:58] <tuxtheslacker> skippy81, I think that explains it :-)
[05:58] <mimi_working> skippy81: yea, irc is great, there should be like a #ubuntu-offtopic for just random chatter too
[05:59] <tuxtheslacker> I don't have the codecs apparenlty :-P
[05:59] <ompaul> !codecs
[05:59] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[05:59] <Lin> !easysource
[05:59] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:59] <ompaul> !w32codecs
[05:59] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[05:59] <JIV> pls helpp
[05:59] <skippy81> JIV in what context are you getting that message?
[05:59] <jvaughan> Hi, i'm unable to use ssh port forwarding, since upgrading from breezy to dapper.  are there any known reasons for that?
[06:00] <skippy81> jvaughan,  please elaborate on you setup, is it a standard linux box behind router you want to be able to ssh into?
[06:00] <sybariten> can i search in my installed apps for anything that contains "ftp"?  in order to see what ftp clients i have. This is through apt-get.
[06:01] <KarlsBerg> why my lspci show bad info ? showme unknow devices that runs ok
[06:01] <mimi_working> how do I apt-get dist-upgrade via synaptic?
[06:01] <skippy81> mimi_working,  im not sure if you can, you should just do it the apt get way
[06:02] <skippy81> i think you can launch the little update manager with a "-d" flag also, but i forget the command for update manager
[06:02] <mimi_working> skippy81: tis not working, due to the error previously mentioned
[06:02] <mimi_working>  http://pastebin.com/746937
[06:03] <jvaughan> skippy81: i'm connecting to a proxy server, over ssh, that's listening on a remote box:  this is the command that used to work: ssh -N -L 8888:127.0.0.1:8888 user@remotehost
[06:03] <matthijs_> firt time here :)
[06:03] <jvaughan> it can no longer assign the requested address
[06:04] <matthijs_> another noob :)
[06:04] <mimi_working> matthijs_: Welcome
[06:04] <Aeudian> Question, when setting and ip address is /etc/network/interfaces for a local area network i can get it to work successfully, but when i set an external ip, in replace on the local ip, it doesnt work  is there something differnet that i need to configure or set for external address
[06:04] <s00ty> Hi, I'm sharing a folder on an external usb drive formatted in NTFS. I am unable to access it across the network using SMB, although it is seen as a shared folder. Can you help me?
[06:05] <KenSentMe> Aeudian: are you behind a router?
[06:05] <brettzilla_> is there a way to not have totem as the default player of audio files?
[06:05] <s00ty> The USB drive is connected to ubuntu5.10 and I'm accessing it from winxp connected by LAN
[06:05] <Linchriss> Hi.. Can somebody please tell me why I cant halt the system while im logged in as a user in gnome?
[06:05] <skippy81> mimi_working, how about "gksudo update-manager -d"
[06:05] <skippy81> mimi_working,  or maybe just a standard sudo
[06:05] <mimi_working> skippy81: let me try that, I did it with sudo and still got that crazy error
[06:06] <Aeudian> KenSentMe: no a firewall, i can reach the gateway when i ping my address but from there it dies off
[06:06] <jroq> que pasa
[06:06] <mimi_working> skippy81: did it as prime root user too
[06:06] <jroq> si
[06:06] <jroq> ffff
[06:06] <blakcheez> hey, I keep having problems with locales when trying to install stuff
[06:06] <Aeudian> KenSentMe: i was thinking possibly of doing some type or route add if it would work, but unsure
[06:06] <skippy81> jvaughan, sorry im clueless about that mate
[06:06] <KenSentMe> brettzilla_: when you have a audiofile in nautilus, click on it, choose preferences, choose open with and select the program there
[06:07] <KenSentMe> Aeudian: hmm
[06:07] <brettzilla_> thank you!
[06:07] <brettzilla_> another question... my flash doesnt have any audio... hwo can i change which device it will use for audio playback?
[06:07] <Aeudian> KenSentMe: i can ping the external gateway/broadcast/network but nothing external behind that
[06:07] <blakcheez> i'm having troubles with locales when installing or updating programs
[06:08] <KenSentMe> !tell brettzilla_ about flash
[06:08] <mimi_working> what is the official/preferred way to let the Ubuntu Dev know about a possible bug?
[06:08] <brettzilla> i've done all of those steps..
[06:08] <mimi_working> some people on the forums are saying this error might be an unintended bug
[06:08] <NoUse> brettzila edit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[06:08] <KenSentMe> !tell mimi_working about bug
[06:08] <brettzilla> thank you
[06:08] <ezeki3l> which URL can give me a list of software versions used in 6.06 release?
[06:08] <blakcheez> what do i do about the locales
[06:08] <s00ty> KenSentMe, how do i set permissions on a NTFS drive?
[06:09] <mimi_working> KentSentMe, thanks mate!
[06:09] <drew> ok how do I run vba
[06:09] <KenSentMe> !tell s00ty about ntfs
[06:09] <amphi> mimi_working: an 'unintended bug'? ;)
[06:09] <drew> and where can i get smeg
[06:09] <blakcheez> !tell me about locales
[06:09] <lx_> zhong guo ren you ma?
[06:09] <Linchriss> My computer just reboots all of a studden..
[06:09] <ezeki3l> are there detailed relesae notes for the upcoming Dapper Drake?
[06:09] <Linchriss> by it self
[06:10] <sybariten> anyone know what i want in order to install filezilla?  i cant see any package for it, and there are various source archives.
[06:10] <KenSentMe> !tell ezeki3l about dapper
[06:10] <blakcheez> how do i fix my locales???
[06:10] <matthijs_> i see everybody joining and leaving... how do i disable this?? bit frustating..
[06:10] <jvaughan> skippy81: turns out my lo interface was down, so it couldnt open the listening port on it
[06:10] <amphi> blakcheez: dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[06:10] <Greyscale> Right
[06:10] <blakcheez> tryed that last night
[06:10] <drew> how do I run vba
[06:10] <ezeki3l> thanks
[06:10] <Greyscale> Anyone here got any experiance with the netgear wg111t and ubuntu (any version) with ndiswrapper?
[06:10] <s00ty> KenSentMe, what I really want is to be able to read the NTFS partition through Samba networking. At the moment, all shared folders except the ones on the NTFS partition can be read.
[06:11] <skippy81> jvaughan, hehe well good to know its sorted now :)
[06:11] <blakcheez> amphi, i'm trying not to do a repair or reinstall, but it seems nothing is working, and I can't get any more programs installed
[06:11] <KenSentMe> s00ty: are you running Breezy or Dapper ?
[06:11] <s00ty> breezy
[06:11] <KarlsBerg> why my lspci show bad info ? showme unknow devices that runs ok
[06:11] <KenSentMe> s00ty: i thought in breezy you have to be root to read ntfs, but i might be wrong
[06:12] <s00ty> KenSentMe, I can read the ntfs partition locally. It is correctly mounted.
[06:12] <skippy81> KarlsBerg,  lspci often doesnt give helpful output
[06:12] <whiter> how can i make a program start with x
[06:12] <whiter> like gdesklets
[06:12] <whiter> i cant write an init script cause it needs x i think
[06:12] <skippy81> whiter, the most simple way is to add it to your gnome session
[06:13] <whiter> how would i do that skippy
[06:13] <whiter> oh yea skippy i changed the icon :P
[06:13] <skippy81> system > prefs > settings
[06:13] <NoUse> whiter add it to your session System -> Prefs -> Sessions I believe
[06:13] <drew> ok
[06:13] <skippy81> yeah they changed it back today whiter
[06:13] <amphi> whiter: stick it in ~/.xsession
[06:13] <KenSentMe> s00ty: i can't help you any further
[06:13] <drew> I want my vba emu
[06:13] <KarlsBerg> skippy81: um, where or how i can see my hardware dont detected on lapotp
[06:14] <whiter> my desktop looks nice
[06:14] <skippy81> KarlsBerg,  basically you want to do an lsmod to see all your loaded modules - is there something specific which isnt working?
[06:14] <jonas22> how do I add/change the locales?  there are a bunch of english ones I don't need, and some other ones lacking I do
[06:15] <KarlsBerg> umjs
[06:15] <jonas22> i'vve tried dpkg-reconfigure locales
[06:15] <m_0_r_0_n> Why do I have to be a super user to be able to save a copie of a pdf document on an usbdisc?
[06:15] <jonas22> but that just regenerates them :\
[06:15] <NoUse> m_0_r_0_n because you probably have it mounted with those paritions
[06:15] <KenSentMe> m_0_r_0_n: where do you want to save it?
[06:15] <NoUse> *permissions
[06:15] <KarlsBerg> and other problem.. my hotkey enable/disable wifi dont run... can use miodprobe or rmmod for load and unload module on run-time ?
[06:15] <brettzilla_> my sound still does not work
[06:15] <m_0_r_0_n> I want to save the file on usbdisc
[06:15] <brettzilla_> in flash
[06:16] <m_0_r_0_n> It s mounted to /media/usbdisc
[06:16] <skippy81> KarlsBerg, better just to take the interface up and down as needed
[06:16] <matthijs_> any dutch irc servers????
[06:16] <skippy81> !wireless
[06:16] <ubotu> I heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[06:16] <amphi> KarlsBerg: yeah, you can use modprobe [-r] 
[06:16] <g-nome> should i select as the standard sound device: esd or alsa?
[06:16] <sarevok> are there any working repositories with E17 for dapper?
[06:16] <s00ty> skippy81, I have a correctly mounted NTFS partition which can be locally read on Ubuntu 5.10. However, after setting it as a shared folder on SMB, I cannot access its contents over the network.
[06:16] <m_0_r_0_n> But I am able to save any other file types on that media type
[06:16] <g-nome> i mean if i want more than one app using sound
[06:16] <KarlsBerg> but how i can know the module n ame of my wireless
[06:16] <bigcx2> hi all
[06:17] <skippy81> s00ty, sorry im useless at samba
[06:17] <amphi> KarlsBerg: look at the output of lsmod and make an intelligent guess ;)
[06:17] <bigcx2> has anyone had any luck with the NetworkManager and nm-applet
[06:17] <s00ty> ok :/
[06:17] <whiter> http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9636/screenshot3zg.png = my ubuntu (6.06)
[06:17] <skippy81> soz mate
[06:17] <KarlsBerg> ok, i will try, but im a newbie on linux
[06:17] <beta_m> s00ty:  can you access other stuff through samba&
[06:17] <KarlsBerg> with lsmod see all modules loadeds no?
[06:17] <amphi> KarlsBerg: for instance, the module for my 'Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless 2200BG' is ipw2200
[06:17] <s00ty> beta_m, yes I can.
[06:17] <g-nome> whiter: where did you get those icons, name of them?
[06:18] <amphi> KarlsBerg: yes
[06:18] <g-nome> very nice desktop btw, whiter
[06:18] <KarlsBerg> ieee80211              37064  1 ipw3945
[06:18] <KarlsBerg> :)
[06:18] <whiter> gnome let me see..
[06:18] <amphi> KarlsBerg: ipw3945 is the module
[06:18] <NoUse> m_0_r_0_n and when you try to save a pdf it says permission denied?
[06:18] <beta_m> well, one of the things to try is to make sure you don't allow ppl to edit NTFS over samba
[06:18] <skippy81> whiter yes it is nice
[06:18] <g-nome> easpecially the "my computer one"
[06:18] <beta_m> since your ubuntu won't be able to do that
[06:18] <whiter> thanks
[06:18] <matthijs_> very nice
[06:18] <g-nome> whi would update the firefox icon
[06:19] <s00ty> I am interested in just reading it.
[06:19] <g-nome> it's the old version, the new version is nicer
[06:19] <KarlsBerg> need force to unload a module in use no ?
[06:19] <m_0_r_0_n> The message "Not a super user" will be displayed.
[06:19] <beta_m> s00ty:  ok, so disable altering files
[06:19] <whiter> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31618 = the icon set i used
[06:19] <amphi> KarlsBerg: I don't have a hw switch on this laptop either; I 'hope' that removing the module will let the PCI PM cut the power to the card
[06:20] <KarlsBerg> PCI PM ?
[06:20] <skippy81> ive just got the default dapper desktop but with compiz running over it
[06:20] <g-nome> whiter: thanks, and i would try to use the NEW firefox icon, it's a bit nicer and more polished
[06:20] <amphi> KarlsBerg: you need to ifconfig down the interface before removing the module
[06:20] <skippy81> looks really nice though
[06:20] <KarlsBerg> pci power manager oh
[06:20] <whiter> g-nome link?
[06:20] <KarlsBerg> and how ! :D
[06:20] <amphi> KarlsBerg: pci bus power management
[06:20] <beta_m> s00ty:  also make sure that you aren't connecting your computer via samba to anything else. under linux samba is either a server or a client... but never both
[06:20] <KarlsBerg> amphi:  how touch the PM config ?
[06:20] <amphi> KarlsBerg: sudo ifconfig <iface> down
[06:21] <amphi> KarlsBerg: that's an on/off setting in the bios on my laptop
[06:21] <brettzilla_> YESS!! i got the flash audio to work!!
[06:21] <amphi> brettzilla_: my condolences
[06:21] <KarlsBerg> amphi:  yes, but i say: the power
[06:21] <skippy81> amphi lol
[06:21] <brettzilla_> why condolences?
[06:21] <KenSentMe> brettzilla_: how?
[06:21] <whiter> i want to run compiz but my computer sucks too much to do it
[06:21] <KarlsBerg> my bios only hae start ON start OFF or last state
[06:21] <whiter> lol
[06:21] <brettzilla_> kensentme, do you need help with it?
[06:21] <s00ty> beta_m, I can access other folders on the linux machine fine. I did "Read-only" and "Allow browsing" and the NTFS space is still not accessible.
[06:21] <amphi> brettzilla_: a joke - I'm not a big fan of flash, it doesn't work well with w3m
[06:21] <Ng> !tell s00ty about ntfs
[06:21] <skippy81> well done on cracking it brettzilla
[06:22] <amphi> KarlsBerg: you say 'the power'?
[06:22] <KarlsBerg> yes
[06:22] <g-nome> whiter: http://people.redhat.com/blizzard/mozilla/bugs/317293/firefox.png for example
[06:22] <skippy81> but yeah im anti-flash also
[06:22] <brettzilla_> amphi: sorry. i'm a flash programmer back on windows. i do a lot of flash
[06:22] <amphi> brettzilla_: ah
[06:22] <KenSentMe> brettzilla_: not at the moment, but how did you solve it. Maybe you can add it to the wiki
[06:22] <brettzilla_> oh
[06:22] <MisterN> hi
[06:22] <s00ty> Ng, I am not trying to write to NTFS, just to read it across the network.
[06:22] <amphi> brettzilla_: flash programming is some javascript dialect?
[06:22] <manatlan> hi
[06:22] <brettzilla_> yeah somewhat
[06:22] <KenSentMe> manatlan: hi there
[06:22] <skippy81> yeah actionscript is similar to js
[06:22] <brettzilla_> its similar syntax
[06:23] <skippy81> but not =
[06:23] <beta_m> s00ty:  do you connect to any other computer's smb folders from the computer that is meant to share the NTFS partition
[06:23] <skippy81> flash is actually a decent technology, but it is often abused
[06:23] <brettzilla_> KenSentMe: i'll private message you with my routine to get it working
[06:23] <amphi> KarlsBerg: you have no pci power management setting in bios? I guess removing the module is the best you can do
[06:23] <s00ty> I am able to, if I need to.
[06:23] <manatlan> when i hit alt+f2 : and enter "file:///home/manatlan", it doesn't open nautilus anymore .... anybody know where to configure that ?
[06:23] <Bazzi> skippy81: sadly there's little sane use for flash, if at all.
[06:23] <beta_m> s00ty:  but you don't?
[06:23] <mimi_working> wierd...can not report this bug...odd
[06:24] <skippy81> BasL,  /agree :)
[06:24] <brettzilla_> i do a lot of web design, so flash suits me well.
[06:24] <brettzilla_> clients love it
[06:24] <lwizardl> how do I manually add a new rsa key to known hosts? i had to redo a server and now I can't ssh into the box since the key rsa changed. I have the new key on my other monitor screen. Just need to know how to add it
[06:24] <amphi> there are many 'little sane' people ;)
[06:24] <Bazzi> but it's a huge pain in many ways, brettzilla
[06:24] <KarlsBerg> with iwconfig i see a interface wireles named eth1, later i execute: "sudo ifconfig down eth1" and get: ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
[06:24] <KarlsBerg> , with random numbrer of etho, get the ident error.. i think that my machine cant see eth1...
[06:24] <whiter> alrighy, thanks g-nome it looks much nicer
[06:24] <s00ty> It's the other way round that I am trying to do. I have a ubuntu machine that has a ntfs partition. I am trying to access it from a winxp machine.
[06:24] <beta_m> brettzilla_:  but you will be shit on the google ranking with flash
[06:24] <brettzilla_> bronson?
[06:25] <brettzilla_> my last name is bronson
[06:25] <brettzilla_> wow. lol
[06:25] <amphi> KarlsBerg: sudo ifconfig eth1 down
[06:25] <beta_m> s00ty:  may i message you?
[06:25] <spikeb> omg, charles bronson!
[06:25] <s00ty> please do.
[06:25] <amphi> KarlsBerg: assuming it's up ;)
[06:25] <brettzilla_> charles bronson :D
[06:25] <brettzilla_> thats what they used to call me in highschool
[06:25] <skippy81> lol
[06:25] <m1sh-L> has anyone installed skype on his pc? where can i find a installation manual for ubuntu dapper?
[06:25] <spikeb> sweet brettzilla
[06:25] <spikeb> lol
[06:25] <g-nome> brettzilla_ : you know good programs for flash in linux, only heard of f4l, but still in development
[06:25] <KenSentMe> lwizardl: when you get the error it mentiones a file. Open it and remove the key you wish to delete. Don't know the name of the file anymore
[06:25] <skippy81> !dapper install
[06:25] <ubotu> skippy81: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:26] <NoUse> !tell m1sh-L about skype
[06:26] <brettzilla_> never heard of any programs in linux.. i use windows for my flash stuff
[06:26] <NoUse> !tell m1sh-L about install
[06:26] <KenSentMe> !tell m1sh-L about skype
[06:26] <richard> hi
[06:26] <skippy81> there is a gpl swf project happening, but its far from complete
[06:26] <KarlsBerg> amphi:  with your command sintax dont get any message, now i try unload the module: sudo rmmod ipw3945 and get the ident !! hehehehe module in USE !
[06:26] <g-nome> flash can be nice
[06:26] <KenSentMe> NoUse: you're to fat
[06:26] <richard> is there a way to log out and still leave downloads active ?
[06:26] <KenSentMe> NoUse: *fast
[06:26] <g-nome> haha
[06:26] <KarlsBerg> now will try force
[06:26] <lwizardl> KenSentMe, thanks
[06:26] <spikeb> gnash = pwn
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[06:27] <drew> whats wrong it says Dependency is not satisfiable: python
[06:27] <KenSentMe> lwizardl: what was the filename again?
[06:27] <drew> and python is installed
[06:27] <NoUse> m1sh-L read the messages you got from ubotu
[06:27] <bartmaniac> aMSN is not working on my ubuntu 6.06 . It gives error : Unable to get a socket from localhost. Check your /etc/hosts file, please.
[06:27] <m1sh-L> ah ok
[06:27] <amphi> KarlsBerg: you should try modprobe -r perhaps
[06:27] <KenSentMe> bartmaniac: join #ubuntu+1
[06:27] <skippy81> drew does it just say "python" or is it the name of a library like "pythongtkx777" etc?
[06:28] <Asssja> Hi.
[06:28] <KarlsBerg> amphi:  cant see -r on rmmod --help
[06:28] <amphi> richard: nohup or screen
[06:28] <drew> just python
[06:28] <richard> nohup?
[06:28] <lwizardl> . /home/<user>/.ssh/known_hosts
[06:28] <amphi> KarlsBerg: I said 'modprobe' I think ;)
[06:28] <richard> whats that
[06:28] <Asssja> If I use Ubuntu Live-CD, can I then search through windows c:\ ?
[06:28] <amphi> richard: man nohup ;)
[06:28] <KenSentMe> lwizardl: ah, now i remember (just did it this morning :) )
[06:28] <g-nome> Asssja: yes you can
[06:28] <skippy81> richard nohup is good if you want to break a command from a terminal
[06:28] <KarlsBerg> amphi:  i think that modprobe only load
[06:28] <skippy81> ie you want to be able to close the terminal after running the process
[06:29] <Asssja> g-nome, where?
[06:29] <amphi> richard: or better, 'info coreutils nohup'
[06:29] <brettzilla> KenSentMe: i sent you the steps i took
[06:29] <g-nome> Asssja: but you will have to mount it, see wiki for mount explanations
[06:29] <amphi> KarlsBerg: man modprobe would change that view ;)
[06:29] <KenSentMe> brettzilla: where?
[06:29] <brettzilla> i private messaged you i think
[06:29] <brettzilla> lol.. im still new to this xchat
[06:29] <knanand> hi all
[06:29] <skippy81> lo
[06:29] <lwizardl> KenSentMe, my screen said that file with a :9 next to it so i just removed the 9th link in it and that was it. thanks for the help :)
[06:29] <Greyscale> Anyone here got ungodly powers with ndiswrapper?
[06:29] <Greyscale> PM me
[06:30] <brettzilla> eh. anyway, i'll send it in here.
[06:30] <KarlsBerg> amphi:  and cannot see -r on --help of modprobe hehehe
[06:30] <beta_m> s00ty:  do you see my private messages?
[06:30] <amphi> brettzilla: you are not 'identified to services'
[06:30] <Asssja> lol, 14 hits on "mount". can you be more specific? :p
[06:30] <s00ty> yes. don't you?
[06:30] <KenSentMe> brettzilla: i didn;t see a message
[06:30] <knanand> can i install rpm files in ubuntu....??? how??
[06:30] <Mysta_> !rpm
[06:30] <ubotu> well, rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debian's DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[06:30] <eCokeNCod> knanand use alien
[06:30] <s00ty> I think I need to register to see them.
[06:30] <Mysta_> !tell knanand about alien
[06:30] <Toma-> how many hours till dapper?
[06:30] <amphi> KarlsBerg: ffs, I said 'man modprobe' not 'modprobe --help'
[06:31] <craize> hello, whats the dpkg -reconfigure for xorg?
[06:31] <skippy81> !tell Asssja about ntfs
[06:31] <KarlsBerg> my ipw3945 is unload, but the wireless led is ON !
[06:31] <Greyscale> Anyone here got ungodly powers with ndiswrapper? PM me.
[06:31] <craize> i changed my display and its on a too high refresh rate now :(
[06:31] <Greyscale> I need serious help.
[06:31] <g-nome> Asssja: see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountingWindowsPartitions?highlight=%28mount%29
[06:31] <brettzilla> KenSentMe: to install flash, i went to the terminal, and typed 'sudo apt-get install alsa-oss' after it was installed, edited '/etc/firefox/firefoxrc' and changed/added ' FIREFOX_DSP="aoss" to the file... saved, exited, and restarted firefox.. all works well now
[06:31] <knanand> how?? wats se exact cmd??
[06:31] <Asssja> thanks
[06:31] <jonas22> can i not use the nvidia driver with the -server kernels?
[06:31] <skippy81> yeah and check your message from the bot Asssja
[06:31] <loststar4545> hey whats the best video editing  software for linux  i just want to convert  no editing
[06:32] <KenSentMe> brettzilla: great, thanks for that
[06:32] <s00ty> beta_m, come to #s00ty
[06:32] <craize> could someone please tell me the dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg line (mines wrong :P )
[06:32] <CokeNCode> !tell CokeNCode about ntfs
[06:32] <brettzilla> no problem, i saw the wiki didnt have that in it
[06:32] <brettzilla> and the methods i followed from the wiki didnt work for me
[06:32] <KenSentMe> brettzilla: maybe you can add it
[06:32] <skippy81> craize "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:32] <brettzilla> i dont know how
[06:32] <brettzilla> lol
[06:32] <craize> thanks skippy81
[06:32] <skippy81> nps
[06:33] <brettzilla> wait, am i able to see my see files on one of my windows ntfs partitions? or other harddrives?
[06:33] <CokeNCode> why is it that when i mount my ntfs windows partition, it doesn't let me copy files that I have there to my linux hard drive ?
[06:33] <brettzilla> :O I CAN
[06:33] <CokeNCode> sorry, it's my ntfs windows hard drive
[06:33] <KenSentMe> brettzilla: click on the edit button on the upper left of the page and follow the steps
[06:33] <skippy81> !ntfs
[06:33] <ubotu> ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe.
[06:33] <brettzilla> okay
[06:34] <Asssja> Do I write it in the terminal? I cant seem to open that
[06:35] <KarlsBerg> amphi: now my ipw3945 is unload, but the wireless led is ON ! need reboot ! ?
[06:35] <ruggy> hey
[06:35] <skippy81> Assja yes open a terminal under applications > accesories > terminal
[06:36] <Asssja> k, thanks
[06:37] <skippy81> i wish irc would kick inactive people, 800 in a room is silly :)
[06:37] <errordeveloper> what gnome gui you use for setting up a static ip and other network preferaces ??
[06:37] <NoUse> CokeNCode are you trying to write to your NTFS drive?
[06:37] <magodoy> hola como estas yo bien
[06:37] <skippy81> errordeveloper,  system > admin > network
[06:38] <spikeb> errordeveloper:  system -> administration -> network
[06:38] <errordeveloper> i have dited /etc/network/interfaces in a approriate way , but apperently it doesnt bring eth0 up for some reson ..
[06:38] <KarlsBerg> hasta los huevos...
[06:38] <stjepan> how to get the "Computer" menu in gnome-panel?
[06:38] <errordeveloper> cheers guys ;)
[06:38] <drew> how do I run vba
[06:38] <drew> I have it installed
[06:38] <skippy81> drew type vba filename
[06:38] <drew> and its not in the menu though
[06:38] <spikeb> stjepan: add to panel, menu bar
[06:38] <Frogzoo> anyone get wow to install with wine 0.9.14?
[06:39] <NoUse> !tell Frogzoo about wow
[06:39] <skippy81> drew it isnt graphical
[06:39] <linchris> Why cant I shutdown from system->quit?
[06:39] <drew> i oh I wish I knew that it wasnt graphical
[06:39] <drew> well I treied installing gnomeboyadvance but it wouldnt install
[06:39] <Frogzoo> NoUse: I know about wow - just need to know if anyone's got 0.9.14 to work with the WoW installer...
[06:39] <morten> just installed ubuntu 5.10 but didnt get option to enter root password now i cant su to root????
[06:39] <drew> but when I did dpkg it installed but wont open
[06:39] <Frogzoo> NoUse: 0.9.12 worked beautifully
[06:39] <Putiikki> morten: use sudo
[06:40] <skippy81> drew just copy your rom file into .vba, then type vba nameofrom from a terminal
[06:40] <skippy81> then it will boot up
[06:40] <Linchriss> Why cant I shutdown from system->quit?
[06:40] <skippy81> you can then add shortcuts for you games to the menus once you are up
[06:40] <Sirmis> need some finnish localization help ..
[06:40] <KenSentMe> Linchriss: do you get an error or something?
[06:40] <skippy81> Linchriss what options do you have?
[06:40] <errordeveloper> spikeb: do you know ho's it called in the command linew ?
[06:40] <skippy81> are you sure you didnt get into gnome by typing "startx"
[06:41] <Linchriss> logout, lock screen, change user and one more..
[06:41] <ubuntuUNINSTALLA> hi
[06:41] <instabin> hello
[06:41] <cvogel> hey
[06:41] <instabin> any one  using 6.06 ?
[06:41] <KenSentMe> !dapper
[06:41] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[06:41] <Greyscale> I am
[06:41] <Greyscale> Well, will be,
[06:41] <instabin> Have any problems
[06:41] <Greyscale> Its installing
[06:41] <stjepan> spikeb, no, it's "Applications Places System", but I want "Computer"
[06:41] <Greyscale> yeah
[06:41] <stjepan> SuSE has "computer"
[06:41] <morten> can you give an example of sudo command to swap to root user
[06:41] <Greyscale> NDISWRAPPER
[06:41] <ubuntuUNINSTALLA> i've bought a nforce3 motherboard with a sempron 3100 and now i'm unable to install linux in it!
[06:42] <ubuntuUNINSTALLA> even disabling the acpi
[06:42] <instabin> NDISWarpper is for wireless lan right?
[06:42] <visik7> anyone using konqueror ?
[06:42] <Linchriss> i use depper.. maybe I should ask in that room :)
[06:42] <ubuntuUNINSTALLA> or installing a 32-bit kernel
[06:42] <ubuntuUNINSTALLA> nothing
[06:42] <ubuntuUNINSTALLA> it hungs up
[06:42] <KenSentMe> !tell morten about root
[06:42] <EvilGuru> how can I share my printer on my ubuntu PC?
[06:42] <drew> vba said faile to load file Pokemon_crystal.gbc
[06:42] <Centaur5> instabin: I'm using it, somethings x restarts sparatically
[06:42] <ubuntuUNINSTALLA> the error shown is
[06:42] <instabin> Greyscale: NDISWARPPER is for wireless lan right?
[06:42] <EvilGuru> how can I share my printer on my ubuntu PC?
[06:43] <ubuntuUNINSTALLA> CPU 0: Machine Check Exception: 4 Bank 4: b200000000070f0f
[06:43] <ubuntuUNINSTALLA> TSC 3eb4f7a737
[06:43] <ubuntuUNINSTALLA> Kernel Panic - not syncing: Machine check
[06:43] <ubuntuUNINSTALLA> _
[06:43] <KenSentMe> !tell EvilGuru about samba
[06:43] <ubuntuUNINSTALLA> please, can anyone help me?
[06:43] <amphi> instabin: AFAIK it's a wrapper for using win32 drivers with linux, I don't think it's wifi-specific
[06:43] <ubuntuUNINSTALLA> I'm trying to install an ubuntu 5.10
[06:43] <webwolf_27> instabin, yeah
[06:43] <EvilGuru> I only wish to share it between Linux PC's, no windows ones
[06:43] <instabin> amphi: tanks for the info
[06:43] <drew> nm got it to load
[06:43] <instabin> !ndiswarpper
[06:44] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, instabin
[06:44] <ShastaMaroon> EvilGrin set up the printers using cups and any other linux machine should be able to connect to it
[06:44] <drew> how do I load my sav file
[06:44] <KenSentMe> !tell ubuntuUNINSTALLA about pastebin
[06:44] <drew> wait
[06:44] <brettzilla> it has been updated
[06:44] <instabin> When is 6.06 officalialy released.
[06:44] <Ribs> !tell instabin about nidswrapper
[06:44] <drew> nm it didnt load my sav file
[06:44] <spikeb> instabin: two days
[06:45] <amphi> Ribs: nidswrapper? ;)
[06:45] <morten> aha sudo -i
[06:45] <ubuntuUNINSTALLA> KenSentMe, pastebin for 3 lines? :p
[06:45] <Ribs> meh
[06:45] <skippy81> ok drew, if your there try typing "gvba"
[06:45] <bigcx2> what is this "!tell" directive that everyone is using
[06:45] <Ribs> bigcx2: Makes the bot tell people about stuff
[06:45] <Linchriss> If my machine just reboots by its self, is there some log I can read?
[06:45] <Ribs> !tell bigcx2 about COC
[06:45] <KenSentMe> ubuntuUNINSTALLA: yeah but you used ten more lines to ask one question
[06:45] <Ribs> like so :>
[06:45] <ShastaMaroon> hmm...
[06:45] <gianluca> hi folks!!
[06:45] <instabin> ndiswarper is how to spell it... I dont need it someone else was saying he was haveing problem with it and i  didnt knwo exactly what it was
[06:45] <ShastaMaroon> !tell ShastaMaroon about !tell
[06:45] <brettzilla> how can i view the windows ntfs files on another harddrive?
[06:45] <ShastaMaroon> damn/
[06:45] <drew> whats gvba
[06:46] <NoUse> !tell ShastaMaroon about ubotu
[06:46] <Sirmis> how i can reconfiugre localization's `?
[06:46] <ShastaMaroon> ahh
[06:46] <instabin> brettizilla: mount it
[06:46] <brettzilla> will that harm my windows file system?
[06:46] <instabin> Brettizilla: you will have read only
[06:46] <gianluca> i want to view some streaming video but mozilla asks me to install the windows mwdia player plugin!!!
[06:46] <drew> nm thx
[06:46] <bigcx2> Ribs: is there a listing of everything you can tell someone
[06:46] <beta_m> what is the line in fstab to mount NTFS partition as a different user (not root:root)?
[06:46] <gianluca> what i have to do?
[06:47] <skippy81> !restricted
[06:47] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:47] <instabin> Brettzilla: will not harm your windows fs
[06:47] <brettzilla> so i will be able to boot in windows without any problem
[06:47] <skippy81> read ubotus message gianluca
[06:47] <brettzilla> if its mounted on linux
[06:47] <Ribs> bigcx2: yeah, but I've forgotten where it is :>
[06:47] <NoUse> gianluca install mozilla-mplayer
[06:47] <bigcx2> lol alright
[06:47] <instabin> brettzilla: you can mount and read ntfs partitions but not write to them... at least thats how it was for me on a default instlation.
[06:47] <emphetamine> hi people..
[06:48] <KenSentMe> emphetamine: hi
[06:48] <gianluca> i have installed mplayer, mozilla-mplayer etc...
[06:48] <EvilGuru> can anyone help me using CUPS to share my printer over my lan? and is there a tool for it
[06:48] <brettzilla> hm. ok. all i want to do is read mp3s from my other harddrive
[06:48] <bigcx2> is anyone else using nm-applet in dapper
[06:48] <gianluca> but in mozilla i have still the message: missing plugin
[06:48] <bigcx2> i can't get it to show up
[06:48] <ShastaMaroon> EvilGrin http://localhost:631
[06:48] <emphetamine> i'm here for answer at simple question: Will run Ubuntu at intel macs ?
[06:48] <instabin> brettzilla: thats wanted also !!! LoL
[06:48] <brettzilla> yeah haha
[06:49] <drew> dangit cant use my homer rin sav file
[06:49] <brettzilla> it's boring on ubuntu w/o all of my mp3s
[06:49] <skippy81> emphetamine, if you mean a Power PC the answer is it is possible, but often problematic
[06:49] <Greyscale> Brettzilla: MP3 playback issues?
[06:49] <bigcx2> i have network-manager and network-manager-gnome installed, also nm-applet is there in my session startup
[06:49] <brettzilla> no, they're stored on a ntfs drive
[06:49] <gianluca> if i try to install manually the plugin, i am redirected to the microsoft website
[06:49] <Greyscale> Owwies
[06:49] <bigcx2> i try to kill it and run it again to no avail
[06:49] <emphetamine> skippy81: i mean macbook
[06:49] <Greyscale> On the same computer?
[06:49] <NoUse> EvilGrin https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP?action=show&redirect=NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:49] <brettzilla> yeah
[06:49] <cello_rasp> brettzilla: look up "mounting windows partition" ubuntu
[06:49] <brettzilla> saem computer
[06:49] <Greyscale> Righto,.
[06:49] <brettzilla> ok
[06:50] <Greyscale> Wjat cello_rasp said.
[06:50] <brettzilla> hey, how do i check what distro i have haha
[06:50] <brettzilla> like is there a command for the terminal
[06:50] <NoUse> brettzilla run 'lsb_release -a'
[06:50] <skippy81> emphetamine, it should work if its one of the newer intel macs
[06:50] <brettzilla> ok
[06:50] <ShastaMaroon> NoUse he isn't printing from windows.
[06:50] <skippy81> emphetamine, its just the old powerpc macs that have problems, the newer macs are basically ibm pcs so it should work fine.  Download the DapperDrake live desktop cd to test it
[06:51] <Eftarjin> hi
[06:51] <spikeb> what sort of problems are on old ppc macs? heh
[06:51] <gianluca> someone can help me?
[06:51] <NoUse> EvilGrin https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[06:51] <NoUse> gianluca install mozilla-mplayer
[06:51] <gianluca> i have installed this!!!
[06:51] <skippy81> spikeb, the architecture is badly supported, often linux wont install and when it does its impossible to get flash and java running i belive
[06:52] <emphetamine> skippy81: i don't have macbook :) i just wanna know, if i buy it, so if i can use ubuntu or another linux on new macs.. so probably yes?
[06:52] <NoUse> gianluca I've never had problems once it was installed on my machine
[06:52] <errordeveloper> ow is that gnome's  lan setup tool called in the command line ?
[06:52] <NoUse> gianluca have you restarted firefox after you installed it?
[06:52] <spikeb> skippy81: it's actually very well supported in terms of hardware support nowadays, but no flash or win32codecs
[06:52] <skippy81> emphetamine, yes it should be easy to get it working
[06:52] <emphetamine> (sorry for my english)
[06:53] <KenSentMe> NoUse: with me i didn't work prefectly also
[06:53] <emphetamine> skippy81: ok, thx ..
[06:53] <gianluca> can you see this?:http://www.allmusic.tv/streaming.asp
[06:53] <spikeb> emphetamine: the hardware isn't supported very well yet with drivers
[06:53] <KenSentMe> gianluca: do you use breezy or dapper?
[06:53] <spikeb> brb
[06:53] <NoUse> gianluca I'm not on my ubuntu box
[06:53] <emphetamine> skippy81: btw, do you know some pages about that?
[06:53] <bigcx2> so no one in here uses nm-applet?
[06:53] <gianluca> breezy
[06:53] <brettzilla> so to mount the ntfs partitions, should i have it auto mount on boot up? or no
[06:53] <skippy81> http://cipherfunk.org/diary/archives/monthly/2006-04.html   http://modular.math.washington.edu/macbook/ emphetamine
[06:54] <emphetamine> skippy81: thank you very much..
[06:54] <emphetamine> ;)
[06:54] <KenSentMe> gianluca: i use dapper and have installed it following the wiki and all works. I use Kaffeine instead of mplayer
[06:54] <emphetamine> bye
[06:54] <Eftarjin> bigcx2: i'm using nm-applet
[06:54] <Otsego> Hi again guys. More problems during the install. Ubuntu is trying to install the ELILO bootloader, but I don't need it as I already have LILO as a bootloader, how can I abort the install and proceed with the rest?
[06:54] <gianluca> if you go there http://www.allmusic.tv/streaming.asp
[06:54] <gianluca> it works?
[06:55] <NthDegree> brettzilla:  NTFS sucks in ubuntu, since you have to apply an everyone write permission to it from within winblows (which is as bad as FAT32)
[06:55] <KenSentMe> gianluca: i can see the video, but can't hear any sound
[06:55] <skippy81> http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h183/tommyr2006/DCP_2021.jpg emphetamine - cool picture of dapper on a mac :)
[06:55] <NthDegree> Otsego:  Use the install CD and use Expert mode!!!!
[06:55] <brettzilla> im not trying to write to my ntfs partition
[06:55] <gianluca> better than nothing :)
[06:55] <brettzilla> i just want to read mp3s from it.. so my ubuntu experience isnt as boring
[06:55] <Otsego> NthDegree, I use the alternate install CD, but how can I enable expert mode?
[06:55] <Otsego> (dapper drake)
[06:56] <gianluca> i'll try to install kaffeine...
[06:56] <gianluca> i'll be back
[06:56] <KenSentMe> gianluca: that's true. Normaly it works most of the time but sometimes firefox crashes when video is played
[06:56] <NthDegree> Otsego: F6 twice and it should let you choose
[06:56] <gianluca> ok
[06:57] <NthDegree> Otsego: then when you go through the setup you can choose between LILO, GRUB or not bother to install a bootloader
[06:57] <Otsego> okay, thanks for the help, I'll let you know how it goes afterwards, thanks NthDegree
[06:57] <skippy81> guys has anyone managed to use linuxbios to launch ubuntu ? does it work
[06:57] <NthDegree> Otsego:  one other thing, you may prefer GRUB to what you have now!
[06:58] <Otsego> NthDegree, I'll stick to LILO. I use an Intel Mac, and rEFIt (a bootloader) takes care of everything, LILO is just there as "a middle man"
[07:00] <KarlsBerg>  now my ipw3945 is unload, but the wireless led is ON ! need reboot ! ?
[07:00] <KarlsBerg> (module)
[07:00] <gui> is it true that dapper will include XGL?
[07:00] <KarlsBerg> NO
[07:00] <KarlsBerg> its possible that the next version
[07:00] <gui> really? it's on wikipedia
[07:00] <brettzilla> brett@brett-desktop:/$ sudo mount /dev/hdh /media/winstorage -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[07:00] <brettzilla> mount: /dev/hdh already mounted or /media/winstorage busy
[07:01] <brettzilla> how come it says its busy or already mounted?
[07:01] <KarlsBerg> the wikipedia dont have supervision
[07:01] <gui> that's a truth
[07:01] <gui> anyway, is it ok to install it following the ubuntu wiki?
[07:02] <walkover> hey! how do i remove a program COMPLETELY in ubuntu?
[07:02] <NthDegree> gui, follow the official instructions :)
[07:02] <NthDegree> walkover: use synaptic package manager
[07:02] <Eftarjin> gui: you may do it ... at your own risks
[07:02] <KarlsBerg> walkover: purge
[07:02] <gui> NthDegree, where?
[07:02] <walkover> KarlsBerg, not enough
[07:02] <NthDegree> on the ubuntu website
[07:02] <gui> Eftarjin, really, is that so hard??
[07:02] <KenSentMe> walkover: sudo apt-get --purge remove package
[07:02] <NthDegree> gui: opn the ubuntu official site it has documentation!
[07:03] <drew> now I feel my ubuntu is complete
[07:03] <NthDegree> on*
[07:03] <Eftarjin> gui: i don't think it's hard but it may not work at all
[07:03] <exhale> when i upgrade to a new kernel, do i need to remove the older one or does it do that automaticaly?
[07:03] <walkover> i had gaim installed and it jammed on startup and then i dpkg -P'ed it and installed it again but it seemed to keep my settings
[07:03] <gui> NthDegreehm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl   is that it?
[07:03] <trevor> Skippy81, are you around? you helped me last night with my ATI drivers...
[07:04] <KenSentMe> walkover: in your home folder there is a folder .gaim. Delete that and reinstall gaim
[07:04] <skippy81> hello trevor
[07:04] <walkover> oh ok
[07:04] <skippy81> im still here :)
[07:04] <trevor> cool
[07:04] <trevor> ok....you gave me that new xorg.conf file....it worked
[07:04] <PPower> hello all. i am having trouble getting into ubuntu. it logs in ok, plays the startup sound then locks up but i can still move the mouse
[07:04] <sergiol> hello
[07:04] <CoOlGhOsT> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-686/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[07:04] <CoOlGhOsT>  <-- what could cause such an error???
[07:05] <PPower> i dont get a splash
[07:05] <drew> wait any way to get rar support
[07:05] <skippy81> ok so your card is working ok now trevor?
[07:05] <NoUse> CoOlGhOsT are you using sudo?
[07:05] <sergiol> dpkg -P removes the instalation or removes only an etry from the package database?
[07:05] <trevor> yes
[07:05] <skippy81> good :)
[07:05] <trevor> but i still dont have dual screens...
[07:05] <CoOlGhOsT> NoUse: yep.. tried both with sudo and as root
[07:05] <NoUse> CoOlGhOsT what kind of video card do you have?
[07:06] <CoOlGhOsT> ati radeon 9550
[07:06] <ShastaMaroon> I followed the ubuntu wiki to install ATI's driver, but X is still loading the Mesa version...I do have Driver "fglrx" - what needs to be changed?
[07:06] <skippy81> ok one sec trevor ill look into it, could you put me a copy of your file up on pastebin again please
[07:06] <CoOlGhOsT> NoUse: ^
[07:06] <trevor> yes
[07:06] <NoUse> CoOlGhOsT check the output of 'dmesg' and see if there are any clues
[07:07] <trevor> skippy81, http://pastebin.com/747113
[07:07] <PPower> my motherboard is a nforce 4 one. i have heard they are causing problems with linux
[07:07] <kemik> !mysql
[07:07] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:07] <skippy81> ok trevor are you trying to get dual display, or do you want a different desktop on each display?
[07:07] <CoOlGhOsT> NoUse: http://pastebin.com/747115
[07:08] <trevor> well, thats just it Skipp81...I want to be able to drag a window to the other monitor
[07:08] <brettzilla> does anyone smoke pot here?
[07:08] <kemik> hmm
[07:08] <ompaul> !offtopic
[07:08] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:08] <brettzilla> haha
[07:08] <paul_> sure pass me a joint. lol
[07:08] <kemik> do i dare upgrade to dapper today on my server...
[07:09] <PPower> i wouldnt. upgrades have been going bad
[07:09] <Frogzoo> kemik: nope ;)
[07:09] <skippy81> ok trevor im going to have a fiddle with your config file, dont worry if i go quiet for a bit :)
[07:09] <kemik> ack :(
[07:09] <trevor> ok Skippy81
[07:09] <kemik> i need MySQL5, or i need to write some nasty queries :/
[07:09] <kemik> or go through the trouble of installing postgres ....
[07:09] <PPower> can i have a hand with my login prob please?
[07:09] <extern> does anyone have working 5.1 surround?
[07:10] <phrowzen> extern, yessir
[07:10] <Frogzoo> kemik: or just chill for a day or two...o_O
[07:10] <KarlsBerg> if i unload a module of my wireless but the LED dont off, i save energy on my laptop ?
[07:10] <dizy> hi.. im trying to install nvidia drivers for dapper... im following the wiki guide but when i get to "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" ... it tells me that my X configuration has already been altered  and it can't proceed and tells me a workaround if im sure to do so... and im not sure
[07:10] <PPower> now reboot your pc.
[07:10] <PPower> ^ dizy
[07:11] <dizy> oh.. reboot ?
[07:11] <extern> phrowzen, how did you got it working?\
[07:11] <dizy> ok.. brb if it doesnt work :)
[07:11] <Frogzoo> KarlsBerg: if it's pcmcia you need to use cartctl to turn it off
[07:11] <PPower> ^ thats what i did on other ones
[07:11] <paul_> Is there a newsreader complarible with same functionality of outlook express. The reason I ask is I use newsgroups to access my university classrooms and so far I have found nothing that will access the schools nntp server.
[07:11] <phrowzen> extern, i donno, my audigy2 card was picked up automatically by ubuntu.. then i jused used alsamixer to adjust the sound levels on the other speakers
[07:12] <extern> I have an integrated card
[07:12] <Frogzoo> paul_: consider pan
[07:12] <extern> and I only get 2.1 sound
[07:12] <Bardamu> anyone know a software for sub a video ?
[07:12] <CoOlGhOsT> NoUse: any ideas?
[07:12] <phrowzen> ahh ic, that sux ;)... umm, do you have level options for the other channels using alsamixer?
[07:12] <phrowzen> if not, maybe there is another driver you can try
[07:12] <jobezone> paul_: and knode.
[07:12] <errordeveloper> how to invoke this from the root shell http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/nwam/stateoftheart/ubuntu/network-settings-connections.png ? i'm in filesafe session , so cannot have a panel menu ..
[07:12] <PPower> as for my login bug, i cant change the session type without locking up.
[07:13] <KarlsBerg> cartctl ?
[07:13] <amphi> Bardamu: mencoder can do it, I believe
[07:13] <walkover> whats the name of the gnome filemanager?
[07:13] <errordeveloper> walkover: nautilus
[07:13] <walkover> thanks
[07:13] <g-nome> paul_ tried thunderbird?
[07:13] <titan> why does disk manager like never work for me? I am trying to access my windows partition but can not figure it out for the life of me. I know which one is my windows partions and have mounted it at one time but now it is mounting bad or something and when I try to disable under status, it just blinks at me but does not disable.
[07:13] <KarlsBerg> walkover:  caution
[07:13] <Bardamu> amphi,  i don't want to encode i want time
[07:13] <walkover> caution?
[07:13] <KarlsBerg> cautilus run the file manager and the desktop
[07:14] <Bardamu> as sub station alpha
[07:14] <walkover> thats why i need to get rid of it:D
[07:14] <KarlsBerg> if dont wanna the desktop, run nautilus --no-desktop
[07:14] <walkover> i run xfce :D
[07:14] <jobezone> errordeveloper: network-admin
[07:14] <drew> what it a rar program I can get with apt-get
[07:14] <walkover> need xffm instead
[07:14] <errordeveloper> KarlsBerg: nautilus --no-desktop or something like that , man nautilus , yeah ..
[07:14] <extern> phrowzen, it isn't muted
[07:14] <extern> and I still don't get no surroudn sound :/
[07:14] <errordeveloper> jobezone: cool, thanx
[07:15] <phrowzen> extern, what about the volumes themselves though? like, do you have adjustments for like.. 'rear' 'front' 'center' etc etc
[07:15] <extern> I do
[07:15] <extern> LFE
[07:15] <extern> center
[07:15] <extern> front
[07:15] <jobezone> errordeveloper: welcome :)
[07:15] <extern> what is LFE though
[07:15] <extern> it always gets muted
[07:15] <paul_> Yep I have tried thundervbird and pan. Neither have enough options in the setup to access universities servers. Total pain in the ass cause school only provides support for outlook express. If I can get something to work in linux then I am going totally unbuntu instead of a dual boot machine.
[07:15] <extern> for some reason
[07:15] <phrowzen> extern, i am not sure what lfe is
[07:16] <paul_> Personally I hate having to boot from os to os
[07:16] <jobezone> paul_: there's also knode. And I'm not sure, but maybe evolution also handles newsgroups?
[07:16] <extern> I foudn in internet that it is the sub
[07:16] <KarlsBerg> cardctl only is for PCMCIA no ?
[07:16] <extern> (low frequency speaker)
[07:16] <KarlsBerg> not pci
[07:16] <extern> although it is muted
[07:16] <extern> in the mixer
[07:16] <paul_> ubuntu runs so much faster than windows I swear. Im trying knode right now.
[07:16] <extern> it still is playing sound
[07:17] <loststar4545> whats kynode
[07:17] <sergiol> what package i need to have apache2 with ssl over ubuntu?
[07:18] <phrowzen> extern, i donno, i dont know what my lfe levels are i dont recall, i cant really check right now. i just changed my rear/front/center etc... are you sure the sound utility you are using is using ALSA for ouput?
[07:18] <KarlsBerg> what is the best method to emulate the wireless enable/disable hotkey on a laptop ?
[07:18] <extern> yes
[07:18] <extern> alsasink
[07:18] <phrowzen> extern, for example.. xmms for me will upmix 2 channel mp3s into 5.1, however if i recall, say vlc, it wont do 5.1 ch on a 2ch track
[07:18] <jobezone> sergiol: Just had a look, and it seems to be apache-ssl
[07:18] <phrowzen> extern, hmm im really not sure, im actually not an expert at this at all, i just adjusted my levels and it pretty much just 'worked' for me
[07:19] <sergiol> i think apache-ssl is from older versions
[07:19] <jobezone> sergiol: ahh..
[07:19] <extern> I don't get it why do each linux program use different sound properties and stuff...
[07:19] <phrowzen> extern, they dont really.. just mostly asks if you wish to use alsa or oss as sound output server
[07:20] <drew> wats a rar compresion program that I can get
[07:20] <extern> why does linux need to have several sound servers? :/
[07:20] <jobezone> sergiol: haven't you found it by searching for all apache packages (in synaptic, or using 'apt-cache search')?
[07:20] <spikeb> the same reason it needs several anything elses
[07:20] <spikeb> because.
[07:20] <phrowzen> extern, im really not an expert i dont know :) i would assume each has its own advantages, although for the most part i believe things use alsa
[07:20] <Jimmey__> 72% of my RAM ( it's reported ) is being used as "cache". What does this mean?
[07:21] <FunnyLookinHat> Jimmey__, probably that it's not currently being used for anything and is available.
[07:21] <extern> what are other alsa configuring applications?
[07:21] <Chousuke> Jimmey__: it means linux puts frequently used files into RAM for faster access.
[07:21] <FunnyLookinHat> Chousuke, hmm... always figured that's what SWAP was for
[07:21] <FunnyLookinHat> ^_^;;
[07:21] <Chousuke> no.
[07:21] <Jimmey__> Okay, thankyou both
[07:21] <jobezone> drew: see the packages rar, unrar, and unrar-free .
[07:21] <amphi> Jimmey__: it means the kernel is working hard on your behalf ;)
[07:21] <drew> k
[07:21] <Chousuke> into swap goes things that are _not_ used. :)
[07:21] <phrowzen> FunnyLookinHat, RAM is faster than hdd swap ;)
[07:21] <KarlsBerg> what is the best method to emulate the wireless enable/disable hotkey on a laptop ?
[07:21] <Chousuke> because swap is slow.
[07:22] <Chousuke> and RAM is fast.
[07:22] <extern> omg
[07:22] <extern> I can't believe it
[07:22] <extern> I scrolled left and saw "channel"
[07:22] <jobezone> drew: unrar is non-free, but opens .rar files compressed with the newest rar versions.
[07:22] <phrowzen> extern, ? found the prob? something dumb?
[07:22] <extern> set to 2ch
[07:22] <extern> then I changed it to 6ch
[07:22] <phrowzen> haha
[07:22] <extern> zomg
[07:22] <SurfnKid> something is wrong with my wlan0 thing
[07:22] <drew> i need something free
[07:22] <sas171> hi, I dont want those fancy feuters like 3D desktop, I just want to have accelarated desktop... what should I install, is there some howto?
[07:22] <extern> I didn't think that it was possible toscroll right :/
[07:22] <phrowzen> extern, which tool is this, sorry? i dont recall seeing a 2ch setting or whatever
[07:22] <Chousuke> you should've set it to 4ch ;P
[07:22] <SurfnKid> im online but it doest show the blinking send/recv ligghts
[07:22] <extern> alsamixer
[07:23] <phrowzen> ahh in alsamixer you didnt know you could scroll right? lol
[07:23] <extern> scroll right and you'll see ;)
[07:23] <phrowzen> actually, i did the same thing before
[07:23] <SurfnKid> i think im just gonna reboot
[07:23] <phrowzen> ;)
[07:23] <Chousuke> SurfnKid: what are the blinking lights good for?
[07:23] <jobezone> drew: and that's why it isn't automatically installed. Use file-roler to have a graphical view on compressing/decompressing files. It automatically uses rar, etc.
[07:23] <Chousuke> if you're online, what else do you need? :D
[07:23] <phrowzen> extern, enjoy :) btw.. you will probably have to play with the volume levels alot for the front/rear/centre speakers... i find it they are anywhere past 82% or so, they become really distorted
[07:24] <amphi> Chousuke: it's axiomatic that blinkenlights are a Good Thing(TM)
[07:24] <drew> also Im instaling vnc
[07:24] <SurfnKid> Chousuke true
[07:24] <Chousuke> amphi: heh
[07:24] <drew> how would I run the graphical gui for vnc server
[07:24] <drew> and make a password for it
[07:24] <NoUse> CoOlGhOsT sorry, I would try googling that last error message
[07:24] <SurfnKid> brb
[07:25] <jobezone> drew: vnc is automatically installed in ubuntu, I think. There's a page about it in ubuntu's wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VNC
[07:26] <bigcx2> vnc is installed by default
[07:26] <bigcx2> vino
[07:26] <skippy81> trevor, ok http://pastebin.com/747149 save a backup because there is at least a 50/50 chance of you not being able to get into xwindows if this fails
[07:26] <phrowzen> damn.. ive learned so much more about linux since running it 24/7 these past 4 months or so ;)
[07:26] <sergiol> apt-cache serches where? in the repositories that are in the /etc directory?
[07:26] <walkover> I cant remember how to make my not-super user have acces to my cdrom drive, does anyone remember?
[07:27] <skippy81> trevor do you know how to overwrite a file with a backup from the terminal?
[07:27] <phrowzen> walkover, i think it has to be added to the cdrom group
[07:27] <bigcx2> walkover: put them in the cdrom group
[07:27] <walkover> with chown?
[07:27] <phrowzen> walkover, i would just edit /etc/groups or /etc/group whatever it is
[07:27] <brettzilla> does anyone know if there is cd cover printing software for linux?
[07:27] <bigcx2> walkover: usermod will work
[07:27] <phrowzen> walkover, usermod would probably work too
[07:28] <bigcx2> hehe
[07:28] <walkover> hehe ok
[07:28] <ramvi> Heya fellow ubuntuers
[07:28] <brettzilla> i have an epson r320, and i want to be able to print my cd labels (directly on the cd)
[07:28] <phrowzen> walkover, if you use usermod, make sure you APPEND cdrom to the groups, i mesed it up once and i removed my self from sudo'ers ;)
[07:28] <brettzilla> but i dont know if software exists..
[07:28] <PPower> i still have my login problem. lockup after sound on login, no splash screen, mouse can move but cant do anything else
[07:28] <ramvi> How do I crack the password of a zip file?
[07:28] <jobezone> sergiol: yes, but not directly. Meaning, if you change the /etc/apt/sources.list file, you'll have to run 'sudo apt-get update' first.
[07:28] <brettzilla> isnt that illegal?
[07:28] <trevor> skippy81, i got it
[07:29] <ramvi> brettzilla, it's mine
[07:29] <trevor> going to reboot
[07:29] <PPower> brettzilla: it depends
[07:29] <brettzilla> oh
[07:29] <PPower> if it is something like a commercial package then yes.
[07:29] <brettzilla> yeah thats what i meant
[07:29] <ramvi> It isn't ;) It's from my school
[07:29] <PPower> then it is
[07:29] <brettzilla> ah i see
[07:29] <PPower> ramvi: i guess your ok then
[07:29] <brettzilla> shit i forgot what i was going to ask
[07:30] <drew> ever tried controlling your own pc in vnc its fun
[07:30] <PPower> brettzilla: your lucky. i have to put up with windows untill i can log in
[07:30] <walkover> i have this line "cdrom:x:24:walkover" in the group file and walkover is my user so that should be alright, right?
[07:30] <KarlsBerg> what is the best method to emulate the wireless enable/disable hotkey on a laptop ? and save battery
[07:30] <ZeuGiRDoR> brettzilla, xDDDD
[07:30] <brettzilla> stoner moment.. god damnit.
[07:30] <StR> hi there....  how can I reconfigure alsa to change the driver to use for my sound card?
[07:30] <phrowzen> walkover, yeah that should be fine
[07:30] <walkover> hmm strange
[07:30] <ramvi> Yeah, on the legal part -- but how do I hack it? zipcracker.sourceforge.net had an app, but it needed a dep that I couldn't find
[07:31] <phrowzen> walkover, and not working eh? hmm..
[07:31] <jobezone> drew: one day I'll want to do that
[07:31] <phrowzen> walkover, is it listed properly in /etc/fstab?
[07:31] <PPower> ramvi: hex edit it
[07:31] <skippy81> ok trevor just make sure you are prepared to restore the backup from the shell prompt
[07:31] <walkover> maybe not
[07:31] <trevor> skippy81....im back
[07:31] <walkover> ill have a look
[07:31] <brettzilla> hah this is pissing me off. wtf was i going to ask
[07:31] <drew> cant wait till my dad gets this hotel with wifi
[07:31] <drew> then I can control it with my psp
[07:31] <skippy81> ok trevor, you got the file ok?
[07:32] <PPower> brett: well could you help me with my login bug then?
[07:32] <drew> thats the shiznit
[07:32] <trevor> ya
[07:32] <brettzilla> whats going on with your login bug?
[07:32] <skippy81> just make sure you make a backup and know how to restore that backup from a plain terminal :D
[07:32] <ramvi> PPower, What should I do when "hexing" it?
[07:32] <PPower> i log in to ubuntu. it works fine. i get my startup sound but no splash screen then it locks up
[07:32] <walkover> i have this "/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0"
[07:32] <PPower> ramvi: look for any possible strings. jsut a guess
[07:33] <walkover> should that be fine?
[07:33] <trevor> skippy81, restoring is using the "cp" command, right?
[07:33] <ramvi> Right, okay. Thanks :)
[07:33] <brettzilla> have you added anything to your sessions PPower?
[07:33] <phrowzen> walkover, i donno what to tell you, looks fine to me.. what happens when u put a disc in? nothing @ /media/cdrom0?
[07:33] <ramvi> Is there a place where I can find deps?
[07:33] <PPower> no. its a fresh install onto a nforce 4 system
[07:33] <brettzilla> hm
[07:33] <walkover> i can browse it alright but i cant execute anything
[07:33] <skippy81> trevor yes :)
[07:33] <trevor> cool
[07:33] <phrowzen> i have to poo at work but im all alone in the store :(
[07:33] <skippy81> make sure you know how to do it, then try a reboot :_
[07:33] <PPower> i think its the sound. when i go to sesssion and choose a option it makes a sound then locks up
[07:34] <trevor> skippy...i already rebooted :)
[07:34] <brettzilla> you havent been able to boot yet?
[07:34] <brettzilla> oh, so you have been able to boot
[07:34] <brettzilla> er, log in
[07:34] <phrowzen> walkover, hmm.. ive never tried to 'execute' anything.. you can read files peroprly?
[07:34] <skippy81> oh i see, what is happening then? any change trevor?
[07:34] <titan> alright, I am stumped. I have used Disk Manager to mount my windows partition. I am not trying to copy stuff from that partition to my linux desktop but when I click paste it does nothing. Anyone know why?
[07:34] <phrowzen> properly*
[07:34] <PPower> well it validated me but didnt load the desktop
[07:34] <trevor> no...
[07:34] <walkover> thats what i mean by executing
[07:34] <titan> now*
[07:34] <walkover> so no
[07:34] <brettzilla> im not sure man, i'm still new to linux too
[07:34] <PPower> ok. thanks.
[07:35] <phrowzen> walkover, ahh ok.. check your dmesg?
[07:35] <brettzilla> what distro are you installing w/ ?
[07:35] <PPower> ubuntu 5.10
[07:35] <walkover> dmesg?
[07:35] <skippy81> what card is it you have again trevor, i assume it has duel heads and you are using it with 2 crt monitors?
[07:35] <brettzilla> breezy?
[07:35] <trevor> on lcd, on crt
[07:35] <PPower> yuo
[07:35] <brettzilla> or dapper? or what
[07:35] <phrowzen> walkover, .. yeah.. insert a disc and issue 'dmesg' at a terminal
[07:35] <PPower> breezy
[07:35] <brettzilla> hm. maybe try dapper?
[07:35] <nicolas_> does anyone has a way to fix that libdbus lib issue with skypemate ?
[07:35] <trevor> skippy81, ATI All In Wonder 9600
[07:35] <brettzilla> im using dapper
[07:35] <PPower> ill give it a go with suse first to see if it is a bug with my pc or ubuntu.
[07:35] <skippy81> two crt monitors? or crt + tv?
[07:36] <PPower> thanks.
[07:36] <jobezone> StR: good question.. alsa is part of the kernel (linux) now. Try this: install the package 'modconf' . Then run it like 'sudo modconf' . Then look at the kernel/sound category. Inside that category, will be a bunch of linux modules (=drivers) which you can load/unload.
[07:36] <brettzilla> yeah
[07:36] <trevor> skippy, one crt monitor, one lcd
[07:36] <brettzilla> sorry i couldnt be any more help
[07:36] <brettzilla> oh, damnit. lol
[07:36] <brettzilla> im going to reboot to see if my stuff mounted.
[07:36] <brettzilla> brb
[07:36] <StR> jobezone: thanks....let me try
[07:37] <skippy81> trevor try "sudo aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=right --desktop-setup=horizontal"
[07:38] <trevor> skippy, i did it
[07:38] <trevor> (but i did layout=left"
[07:38] <walkover> phrowzen, what to look for?
[07:38] <trevor> because the second monitor is on the left Skippy81
[07:38] <AImtyBob> I set up an ssh server on port 21 of my box and I connect to it from my other PC which is on the outside the firewall, but when I try to connect from work I get a blank screen with no login.  In the event log I can see my server and Putty exchange versions and then putty says it's using SSH Protocol 2, but then that's it, no keys exchanged
[07:38] <StR> jobezone: how can I know which sound card driver to use?
[07:38] <skippy81> ah ok
[07:38] <EmxBA> hi
[07:38] <EmxBA> intelikey:hi
[07:38] <EmxBA> what's up
[07:38] <EmxBA> any problems
[07:39] <EmxBA> etc
[07:39] <skippy81> try a reboot now trevor
[07:39] <trevor> ok
[07:39] <phrowzen> walkover, well, if you dont see anything bad that catches your eyes hehe its probably fine in that sense
[07:39] <walkover> but its huge
[07:40] <phrowzen> walkover, what happens if you mount the disc as root and browese as root? its fine?
[07:40] <phrowzen> walkover, it would be towards the very end
[07:40] <jobezone> StR: hmm, if you're asking, it means that the correct module wasn't automatically loaded. So, the best way would be for you to search on the web for your souncard name and the word linux, to know the specific module for it.
[07:40] <walkover> ill have another look
[07:40] <walkover> and try as root
[07:40] <phrowzen> walkover, :)
[07:40] <titan> is there a way to mount my windows partition a little more effectivly and user friendly ( =P) than Disk Manager?
[07:41] <trevor> skippy81, still nothing
[07:41] <jobezone> StR: run 'lspci', then see what it says in 'Multimedia audio controller'
[07:41] <skippy81> hmm im really stumped trevor
[07:41] <trevor> ok
[07:41] <StR> jobezone: nothing there
[07:41] <trevor> that's alright...not a big deal
[07:41] <jobezone> StR: to see the soundcard/chipset you have
[07:41] <StR> jobezone: 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[07:42] <bestadvocate> hey guys I forgot the technical name of that gnome program that used to be default with Ubuntu, but does not seem to be there with the fresh install.  Its the program that has you modefy, usually with check boxes, gnome program prefrences.
[07:43] <skippy81> trevor what happens if you type "fglrxconfig"?
[07:43] <trevor> skippy81, command not found
[07:43] <walkover> phrowzen, cant do it ass root either
[07:43] <walkover> as*
[07:44] <AskHL> Hello, I have some trouble with charset compatibility (at least that seems to be the problem). When I type the Danish letters () into nedit they display as two characters in a row (which are nonsensical). Also when I try to compile a latex file containing one or more of these letters it complains, displaying the nonsensical characters instead of the actual text. This happens even if I write the particular file in gedit which displays t
[07:44] <jobezone> StR: had a search, and the module is snd-i8x0 . BUT, I'm seeing other people with the same problem in ubuntu dapper, and suse.
[07:44] <skippy81> trevor try doing "sudo apt-get fglrx-control"
[07:45] <jobezone> StR: not having sound, that is. Have you tried increasing all the sound levels?
[07:45] <trevor> skippy81, how about apt-get install fglrx-control?
[07:45] <phrowzen> walkover, are you sure its not the disc?
[07:45] <skippy81> it will probably sy its allready intalled though
[07:45] <jobezone> StR: by running 'alsamixer'
[07:45] <skippy81> yeah thats the one trevor :)
[07:45] <StR> jobezone: that is the weid part..It only has 2 channels, the "master" and the "PCM"
[07:45] <trevor> skippy81, installing...
[07:45] <walkover> i can browse it alright and it was running in windows today
[07:45] <trevor> skippy81, done
[07:46] <sergiol> to walkover: noroot in /ets/fstab
[07:46] <fundacite> hola
[07:46] <sergiol> to walkover: noroot in /etc/fstab
[07:46] <jobezone> StR: hm, yeah, that's exactly what I saw on this page.
[07:46] <thomsen> hallo, ik heb een vraag over openoffice writer, kan iemand me helpen?
[07:46] <StR> jobezone: URL? so I can read about how they fixed it?
[07:46] <jobezone> StR: are you using smp?
[07:46] <skippy81> ok now try any of these commands "fglrx-control" "flgrxconfig"
[07:46] <ompaul> !nl
[07:46] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[07:46] <jobezone> StR: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286
[07:46] <sergiol> at the line where your CD-drive is located
[07:47] <thomsen> hello, i'm using openoffice writer and i have a question about it
[07:47] <jobezone> StR: so far, they are all stuck.
[07:47] <ompaul> !es
[07:47] <skippy81> if neither of those work type fglrx and hit tab a few times, see if any interesting commands appear, we are looking for a gui control panel program
[07:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:47] <StR> jobezone:  cat /proc/version :: Linux version 2.6.15-23-686 (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 SMP
[07:47] <StR> jobezone: so.. it is with SMP, right?
[07:47] <skippy81> shoot thomsen...
[07:48] <thomsen> when i'm trying to put the cursor a line down, it's going 2 lines down. Like in a list. ,
[07:49] <thomsen> how can i put this back to normal
[07:49] <StR> jobezone: should I try to load the snd-i8x0 driver?
[07:49] <StR> str@eva:~$ modprobe snd-i8x0
[07:49] <StR> FATAL: Module snd_i8x0 not found
[07:49] <jobezone> StR: I asked you that, because people in that thread also were using SMP.
[07:49] <trevor> skippy81, neither of those worked :(
[07:50] <skippy81> try format - paragraph on your menu thomsen, see what the values for spacing above and below paragraph do
[07:50] <StR> jobezone: it didn't work without SMP either
[07:50] <jobezone> StR: forget about that driver :/
[07:50] <blue-frog> thomsen, choose default from upper left text box
[07:50] <StR> jobezone: ok
[07:50] <jobezone> StR: I misread what someone said at the thread. But, see this one : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=432260
[07:50] <skippy81> hmm trevor, do this "cd /" then "flgrx" and hit tab a few times
[07:51] <skippy81> it should list all the commands availiable starting with flgrx
[07:51] <paddygman_> anyone in here clued up on the installation of azureus an running the xml_http_if plugin????
[07:51] <jobezone> StR: again, they're using spm. At the end, a person requests some information as he intends to write a patch to alsa.
[07:51] <skippy81> then try the same for "ati" and "catalyst"
[07:51] <trevor> skippy81, display all 2453 possibilities?
[07:51] <skippy81> no
[07:51] <trevor> ok
[07:51] <jobezone> StR: perhaps you could try e-mailing that person with that info.
[07:52] <njan> trevor, you hit enter after flgrx
[07:52] <njan> well, I'm guessing.
[07:52] <trevor> i did
[07:52] <njan> Don't. :)
[07:52] <njan> you're tab completing every executable file in your path otherwise, as opposed to those starting with flgrx :P
[07:52] <jobezone> StR: ok, just had a look at more results (from searching), and found https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/33719 .
[07:53] <trevor> ooh njan, i got alist...
[07:53] <drew> man I cant believe peeps think linx is hard
[07:53] <paddygman_> azureus plugins anyone?
[07:54] <skippy81> ok treveor, paste the list to pastebin
[07:54] <trevor> ok
[07:54] <skippy81> i really wish linux has an easy way of telling you the names of recently installed programs
[07:54] <drew> why
[07:54] <trevor> http://pastebin.com/747195
[07:54] <drew> just go to installed
[07:54] <skippy81> it really winds me up having to go through a stupid process of installing stuff and then figuring out its name lol
[07:55] <skippy81> nope thats not it trevor
[07:55] <jobezone> StR: actually, unless this person's laptop and hardware configuration is the same as yours, your best bet is to: Search launchpad.net (ubuntu's bug database) for a previous report like yours. If you don't find anything, report one yourself, using the same format as in the bug report link I gave. Oh, and if you are using Breezy, you could also download Dapper Release Candidate, and see if it works.
[07:55] <trevor> ok...
[07:55] <drew> dangit bad rom dump
[07:56] <skippy81> trevor you have to just type a few letters of start of what you are looking for, then press tab twice
[07:56] <skippy81> try again
[07:56] <StR> jobezone: it is in dapper
[07:56] <skippy81> i would do it myself, but i really cant install the ati drivers on my machine ive got enough stuff on it as it is lol
[07:56] <trevor> skippy81, still nothing
[07:56] <trevor> i type "flgrz" then press tab twice?
[07:57] <trevor> no enters?
[07:57] <skippy81> yes no enters
[07:57] <skippy81> trevor try this, open synaptic
[07:57] <trevor> ok
[07:57] <skippy81> lol trever wait
[07:57] <trevor> kk
[07:57] <skippy81> its not "flgrz" its "fglrx"
[07:58] <drew> sweet got a working rom dump
[07:58] <trevor> did i type it wrong?
[07:58] <skippy81> think of it as "fire GL RX"
[07:58] <jobezone> StR: ahh.. I searched for '82801G' in launchpad, and there was a bug submitted concerning it: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/44338
[07:58] <trevor> there!
[07:58] <Larsson-Sweden> When using gtk-theme-switcher , i can choose Clearlooks in the menu, but when clicking i apply, i get the error message: larsson@ubuntu:~ $ switch2
[07:58] <Larsson-Sweden> /home/larsson/.gtkrc-2.0:2: Unable to find include file: "(null)/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"
[07:59] <Larsson-Sweden> Any ideas?
[07:59] <trevor> skippy81, i got this "fglrxinfo     fglrx_xgamma"
[07:59] <skippy81> how annoying, so obvously that package doesnt contain a gui interface
[07:59] <l__> can someone tell me why i cannot find glib anywhere in the repos?
[07:59] <trevor> yaya
[07:59] <drew> man computing at its finest
[07:59] <linchriss> Why does some apps look like crap?
[07:59] <linchriss> its like the fonts have been streched out or somthing
[08:00] <skippy81> ok try this trever. open synaptic and search for "fglrx-control" when you find it right click and read its properties
[08:00] <l__> i have another question too, when i select subpuixel smoothing for my fonts i get weird colors and distortion on the fonts, anyone know why?
[08:00] <skippy81> it should list the files it contained
[08:00] <trevor> ok
[08:00] <jobezone> StR: perhaps you could comment on that bug report, and confirm it for your hardware (point out which laptop it is, if it is in fact a laptop). Also, the reporter gave a few links on ways users using other distributions solved it (it may not be easy).
[08:00] <skippy81> we are looking for an executable file inside it
[08:00] <NoUse> l__ probably because you aren't looking hard enough :-)
[08:00] <skippy81> im postive ive seen ATI people with a graphical catalyst style configuration utility running under gnome
[08:00] <StR> jobezone: man!  you are the man!!!
[08:00] <jobezone> StR: you're probably desperate by now, so yeah, things like these suck a bit!
[08:01] <trevor> skippy81, in the installed files tab?
[08:01] <l__> NoUse: i have both universe and multiverse enabled in my repos and i cannot find the package
[08:01] <NoUse> l__ its already installed
[08:01] <skippy81> search tab
[08:01] <jobezone> StR: yeah!!! Nahh, just used to doing that myself! (seeing the chipset, then search with it on cyberspace)
[08:01] <skippy81> and do search
[08:01] <NoUse> l__ it needs to be installed for ubuntu to run
[08:01] <trevor> i found the properties for fglrx-control...
[08:02] <l__> NoUse: i got an error while trying to compile a program saying it was not
[08:02] <drew> hey skippy wats a n64 emu that is in synapatic or apt-get
[08:02] <NoUse> l__ you need the dev libs
[08:02] <NoUse> l__ its call libglib... search for that
[08:02] <StR> jobezone: how do I contact the man who posted the bug?
[08:02] <skippy81> i doubt one exists drew
[08:02] <skippy81> snes maybe
[08:02] <drew> I got snes
[08:03] <drew> both snes9x and zsnes
[08:03] <skippy81> ok trevor do you see any files listed under "installed files"
[08:03] <drew> and vba
[08:03] <l__> anyone know why i get distortion when using subpixel smoothing for my fonts? i never got that on previous installs
[08:03] <trevor> yes
[08:03] <jobezone> StR: you can't, I guess.
[08:03] <trevor> skippy81, http://pastebin.com/747224
[08:03] <jobezone> StR: why do you want to contact him=
[08:03] <jobezone> ?
[08:04] <l__> NoUse: i already have that installed
[08:04] <StR> jobezone: maybe he compiled the alsa pkg with the patch
[08:04] <nicolas_> does anyone knows a substitute for skypemate, because skypemate will probably never work under ubuntu i guess we have some kind of replacements ?
[08:04] <errordeveloper> how to make sure that network interfaces will be UP on next boot ?
[08:05] <kspath> nicolas_: apt-cache search skype else search engine
[08:05] <skippy81> trevor type "fireglcontrol"
[08:05] <trevor> ok
[08:05] <nicolas_> kspath: all done
[08:05] <skippy81> stupid ati i hate them so much, why not give it a matching name with the drivers lol
[08:05] <trevor> skippy81, still nothing
[08:05] <skippy81> says it cant find it?
[08:05] <jobezone> StR: ah.. you could comment on the bug, saying this happens to you too, and specyfing your laptop (it is one, right?). This would be good, because the bug is still marked as unconfirmed. Then, you could ask if he has a patched alsa package available.
[08:06] <nicolas_> how come do i need skypemate to make work my usb phone ?
[08:06] <StR> jobezone: ok, I will
[08:06] <Otsego_> Is there any way I can install .rpm packages in Ubuntu?
[08:06] <l__> does ubuntu come with gtk installed? i cannot find it in the repos
[08:06] <nicolas_> isnt it just a speaker and microphone, the speaker already works, only the mic is missing
[08:06] <kspath> Otsego_: apt-cache search rpm
[08:06] <NoUse> l__ its installed, what are you trying to compile?
[08:06] <skippy81> trevor, have a look in your gnome menu for the control panel icon, maybe it will be under applications menu
[08:06] <Otsego_> kspath, I found KPackage something
[08:07] <kspath> Otsego_: you should try to avoid it.
[08:07] <Otsego_> but it wont open the file
[08:07] <l__> NoUse:  gaim beta 3
[08:07] <trevor> skippy81, what does the control panel icon look like?
[08:07] <kspath> Otsego_: you should try to avoid rpm and rather try to get deb
[08:07] <skippy81> no idea trevor, ive never seen it
[08:07] <NoUse> l__ how are you searching the repos?
[08:07] <skippy81> i use nvidia
[08:07] <trevor> aww ok
[08:07] <Otsego_> I know, but there is no deb of this package
[08:07] <l__> NoUse: synaptic
[08:07] <Otsego_> but Ill try something else
[08:07] <Otsego_> BRB
[08:07] <skippy81> i swear, i will never buy an ati product again after all the linux issues ive seen
[08:07] <skippy81> :_
[08:08] <skippy81> hehe
[08:08] <trevor> :(
[08:08] <Rambo3> skippy81: did you read ati comments about linux?
[08:08] <NoUse> l__ its libgtk
[08:08] <skippy81> well i know that they think various open source products are a deadend
[08:08] <NoUse> l__ most libraries start with lib
[08:09] <l__> NoUse: according to synaptic i already have it installed
[08:09] <skippy81> i would love to read em if you have a link Rambo3
[08:09] <Rambo3> NoUse: /J #ubuntu-trivia
[08:09] <jobezone> StR: you'll probably have to register at launchpad. And, if you don't get any answer, or a patched alsa package from the submitter of the bug report, you'll either have to wait for a fix ( :/ ), or patch it yourself...
[08:09] <NoUse> l__ you need the dev packages
[08:09] <StR> jobezone: I already posted a comment
[08:09] <trevor> skippy81, i can't find anything
[08:09] <skippy81> ok mate, im sorry im out of ideas im afraid
[08:10] <trevor> ok
[08:10] <skippy81> ask around about how to get the control panel up
[08:10] <l__> NoUse: thanks
[08:10] <skippy81> sorry trevor, i did try :(
[08:10] <trevor> ya
[08:10] <trevor> thanks a bunch tho
[08:10] <StR> jobezone: I will write to this philipp    maybe he already has a patched  alsa  to install as a .deb in ubuntu
[08:11] <skippy81> at least your computer is in a better state than mine the time i did "rm -r /" and deleted 60gb of movies and music :)
[08:11] <Some_Person> Hey
[08:12] <Some_Person> Why wont usplash work?
[08:12] <skippy81> brb
[08:13] <NoUse> Some_Person it probably doesn't like you
[08:13] <NoUse> :-)
[08:13] <Some_Person> And how do I remove that message after login with the little icons?
[08:13] <NoUse> Some_Person did you change something or has it never worked?
[08:13] <Some_Person> lol, nouse
[08:13] <Some_Person> never worked
[08:13] <Some_Person> i use LILO
[08:13] <NoUse> Some_Person thats probably why
[08:13] <Some_Person> really?
[08:13] <NoUse> Some_Person if you feel comfortable ediitng your lilo.conf, you need to pass a boot option of 'splash' I believe
[08:14] <Rambo3> Some_Person: i was going to say grub ,emu . but you probobly misscongifured lilo
[08:14] <Rambo3> menu
[08:14] <Some_Person> ok
[08:14] <Some_Person> I'm comfortable
[08:14] <Some_Person> How do i do that?
[08:14] <Rambo3> you ll have to add lines for spalash screen.
[08:15] <Some_Person> what lines?
[08:15] <Some_Person> and where in the file?
[08:15] <Rambo3> and rerun liloconfig . Last i used lilo was on redhat 7.2
[08:15] <kemik> !postgresql
[08:15] <ubotu> kemik: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:15] <kemik> !postgres
[08:15] <ubotu> kemik: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:15] <NthDegree> Some_Person:  why use LILO? GRUB is much easier
[08:15] <linchriss> some gtk apps looks wierd.. not like the screenshots on the net?
[08:15] <linchriss> why?
[08:15] <Larsson-Sweden> Am i the only one with flash problems in Linux? Flash is working with sound, but after a while the sound lags behind.
[08:15] <Some_Person> I can't get GRUB to install.
[08:15] <Some_Person> And I don't think GRUB works with BootPart
[08:16] <linchriss> e.g ardour
[08:16] <NthDegree> BootPart?
[08:16] <pally> my Flash doesnt have sound at all
[08:16] <linchriss> and NeroLinux
[08:16] <jobezone> StR: ok, good luck then! On, and he also mentioned that it's already fixed in alsa 1.0.11 . You can get it here : ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.11.tar.bz2
[08:16] <Some_Person> BootPart allows you to boot to other partitions with NTLDR (Windows MBR)
[08:17] <NthDegree> GRUB supports booting everything
[08:17] <NthDegree> GRUB can boot windows
[08:17] <Some_Person> I want to keep the Windows MBR.
[08:17] <NthDegree> YOU WHAT?
[08:17] <NthDegree> WHY?
[08:17] <walkover> when i start xffm it put icons on my desktop, which is fine. But it also removes my background image. Does anyone know how to have both icons ang background image?
[08:17] <Some_Person> So BootPart loads LILO on hda6.
[08:18] <Rambo3> Some_Person: you need to run  "grub-install  /dev/hda1" if you only want it for linux parition
[08:18] <Some_Person> And even so, the GRUB install always fails.
[08:18] <crimsun> don't bother with 1.0.11, I've already backported it to our kernel
[08:18] <Some_Person> Tried that
[08:18] <Some_Person> I gave up on GRUB.
[08:18] <Some_Person> I have LILO working fine
[08:18] <jobezone> StR: it just won't be as easy as installing a .deb . It has a INSTALL file inside, which explains how to install it.
[08:19] <titan> I don't like LILO, I just went grub, it's all automatic
[08:19] <wilem> Has anyone tried play WoW with XGL + Compiz installed?
[08:19] <Some_Person> I dont know how to install DEB files? Can you tell me? I want to install WINE without internet in ubuntu
[08:19] <graft> wilem: try #ubuntu-xgl
[08:19] <navas> elou
[08:19] <wilem> thanks
[08:20] <titan> quick question, how do I set the permission on a whole folder of files again?
[08:20] <navas>  no
[08:20] <graft> chown <whatever> *
[08:20] <NthDegree> Some_Person:  try the package manager
[08:20] <soundray> titan: man chmod (look for the -R option)
[08:20] <graft> err chmod, not chown
[08:20] <PPower> i think my login problem is computer related, suse refuses to come up too though this time it is a fraction before the login
[08:20] <kspath> titan: man chmod ; man chown; man ls
[08:20] <KenSentMe> Some_Person: try sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[08:20] <titan> Thanks guys
[08:20] <navas> is hispaa
[08:20] <Some_Person> Just opening the DEB file fails
[08:21] <KenSentMe> !es
[08:21] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:21] <NthDegree> Some_Person: <KenSentMe> try sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[08:21] <graft> man ls?
[08:21] <Some_Person> Thanks
[08:21] <Some_Person> Now, how do I make LILO load USPLASH
[08:21] <KenSentMe> Some_Person: your welcome ;)
[08:22] <PPower> some_person: it will do it automaticaly as long as usplash is installed
[08:22] <Some_Person> It doesn't.
[08:22] <Some_Person> And I'm sure it's installed
[08:23] <Crescendo> Join http://gwing.net
[08:23] <PPower> ah. since i cant use linux right now i am stumped. i use grub myself.
[08:23] <Crescendo> Whoops.
[08:23] <Crescendo> Wrong server, guys.  My bad.
[08:23] <NthDegree> Some_Person:  You need to run LILO after each update before you reboot or else the add-on/update won't work
[08:23] <NthDegree> Some_Person: Hence why LILO is inferior to GRUB
[08:23] <PPower> agreed
[08:24] <Some_Person> NthDegree: So I just go to Terminal and type in "sudo lilo"?
[08:24] <NthDegree> Some_Person: I'm not sure, different instructions for each thing
[08:24] <graft> NthDegree: err what? update won't work?
[08:24] <graft> NthDegree: where did you get that idea?
[08:24] <PPower> does anyone have any idea why my nforce motherboard with onboard ck804 sound would cause login problems?
[08:25] <Some_Person> NthDegree: What do I type in Terminal?
[08:25] <crimsun> PPower: what sort?
[08:25] <NthDegree> graft, I mean that you need to run LILO for every major thing that affects the boot
[08:25] <Crescendo> Anyone have a recommendation for setting up Ubuntu/Windows dual boot? | Should I use GRUB or NTLoader?  | Two HDDs or one?
[08:25] <NthDegree> Some_Person,  I don't use LILO so I don't know
[08:25] <graft> NthDegree: um. sure, but that doesn't apply to 99.9% of updates
[08:25] <graft> Some_Person: yeah sudo lilo will do it
[08:25] <Some_Person> Shouldn't it already be configured? LILO is the last thing to install from the CD.
[08:25] <PPower> when i log in all i get is a brown screen and a sound effect, no splah. suse doesnt even get on to the login screen
[08:25] <NthDegree> Crescendo, use GRUB as it works better than windows MBR
[08:25] <planetcall> Crescendo, Grub
[08:26] <Some_Person> I need the Windows MBR.
[08:26] <NthDegree> planetcall: great minds think alike :)
[08:26] <graft> Crescendo: use two HDDs... if you need to reinstall windows it might get hairy otherwise
[08:26] <planetcall> Crescendo, Grub can do all your windows will do in coming 10 years
[08:26] <aLPHa_LeaK> Some_Person: use grub with the chainloader +1 option
[08:26] <Some_Person> And I can't get GRUB to install at all.
[08:26] <dizy> i followed the guide on wiki to install nvidia drivers... but after i restart x it doesn't want to.. i checked the xorg.conf and the video section had a wrong identifier... i have a geforce6200 but it was showing Radeon 7000... the driver however was correct "nvidia" ... anyone know why ?
[08:26] <NthDegree> Some_Person:  Why do you, you don't need the Windows MBR
[08:26] <dizy> btw.. this is on dopper
[08:26] <Some_Person> My dad has Linuxphoebia.
[08:27] <dizy> dapper*
[08:27] <graft> Some_Person: just don't tell him the bootloader is linux
[08:27] <planetcall> Some_Person, I had it as well before I used Ubuntu
[08:27] <NthDegree> Some_Person: LMFAO, well does he have NSAphobia?
[08:27] <PPower> dizy: hmm. ovioulsy my fix didnt work. im downloading dapper now to see if i can fix my login trouble
[08:27] <Some_Person> I have it set to ask me for one second for Ubunty or Windows XP.
[08:27] <aLPHa_LeaK>  gd'evn
[08:27] <capgadget> Wait until he sees the $650 Office 2007 and $350-$450 M$ Vista prices Some_Person.
[08:27] <Some_Person> lol
[08:27] <planetcall> capgadget, He can torrent it all for free !
[08:27] <planetcall> :P
[08:28] <ShastaMaroon> They're not going to sell any at $350-450
[08:28] <graft> dizy: i think the identifier doesn't matter anyway...
[08:28] <Some_Person> My dad has Non-MS-OS'sPhoebia
[08:28] <amphi> Some_Person: perhaps he'd like plan 9...
[08:28] <PPower> crimsun: what do you think?
[08:28] <planetcall> Stop piracy and go for FOSS
[08:28] <NthDegree> Some_Person: Windows has backdoors made by the NSA and GRUB can do everything you need to sort out windows and Linux systems on one HDD
[08:28] <dizy> graft, yea i thought so to.. but either way it wasn't loading.. not sure why
[08:28] <graft> dizy: what does X die with?
[08:28] <Some_Person> I have a 6-partitioned HD
[08:28] <Some_Person> Is that OK?
[08:28] <crimsun> PPower: have you tried booting with noapic or pci=noacpi?
[08:29] <ShastaMaroon> NthDegree How do you know there are backdoors by the NSA?
[08:29] <amphi> Some_Person: odd numbers of partitions are better
[08:29] <PPower> hmm. i only have suse right now but how do you do it?
[08:29] <Some_Person> 6 is even/
[08:29] <graft> ShastaMaroon: this is a well-known rumor about Microsoft... um lemme find a link
[08:29] <NthDegree> ShastaMaroon: I'll Private Message you all the info.
[08:29] <dizy> not sure... it asks if i want to see the detailed info and theres quite a lot of info.. duno what to pay attention to
[08:29] <skippy81> dizy did you computer actually get into xwindows?
[08:29] <ShastaMaroon> graft, NthDegree, thanks
[08:29] <amphi> Some_Person: I was joking
[08:29] <zach> What is a dock bar type program for ubunutu (like osx dock)?
[08:29] <EmxBA> hi
[08:29] <dizy> no
[08:29] <Some_Person> lol
[08:29] <kemik> !backports
[08:29] <ubotu> somebody said backports was Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[08:29] <capgadget> Has anyone tried 6.06-RC in vmware?  Seems to get hung onthe timezone selection.
[08:29] <EmxBA> skippy, are you skippy_ from yesterday
[08:29] <graft> ShastaMaroon: http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/sec/0927sec2.html
[08:30] <skippy81> yes :) and skippy81
[08:30] <kspath> zach: apt-cache search dock
[08:30] <dizy> skippy,  i had to get back to the backup xorg file to get back in
[08:30] <ShastaMaroon> thanks graft
[08:30] <Some_Person> I want USPLASH
[08:30] <capgadget> LOL might as well wait 1-2 more days anyway.
[08:30] <Some_Person> How do I configure LILO for it?
[08:30] <graft> dizy: look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:30] <PPower> dont use lilo is what i say
[08:30] <EmxBA> skippy81: i'm glad to see you
[08:30] <graft> dizy: the last few lines should tell you why it crapped out
[08:30] <Some_Person> GRUB is beta software
[08:30] <planetcall> Hey its midnight here....how should I greet ? GoodMidnight ? or will Good evening do ?
[08:30] <EmxBA> Some_Preson: you mean vootsplash, right
[08:31] <EmxBA> GRUB i splashable
[08:31] <graft> dizy: although the most obvious reason would be your kernel module didn't load properly
[08:31] <Some_Person> No, I mean USPLASH
[08:31] <skippy81> thankyou EmxBA :)
[08:31] <EmxBA> planetcall: not everywhere, my time is 20:31
[08:31] <PPower> planetcall: 19:31 over here ;)
[08:31] <EmxBA> skippy81:oh, never minds
[08:31] <EmxBA> can i private you
[08:31] <jobezone> ShastaMaroon: and for Vista something funny also happened. First, someone from microsoft sent a press release (or simillar) saying that the next windows would conform with police guidelines in the world, and provide them with acess in some way to windows machines. Later, a microsoft developer in his blog said it wouldn't have such a thing. My guess is that this last one thought (correctly), that why it would be good PR for police forces around the world,
[08:31] <dizy> graft, the last 3 lines are all the same... ProcXCloseDevice to close or not ?
[08:31] <planetcall> yeah...but how should I greet it for my time :P....can u tell me
[08:31] <Marlun> When viewing my routers DHCP-Table the connected computers show up and the ones with windows on them also has a host name, but the server with ubuntu on it doesn't have anything under host name, why is that?
[08:32] <zach> only thing i found was for kde---- kooldock - Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements
[08:32] <EmxBA> planetcall: hi folks, that's ok :D
[08:32] <planetcall> nevermind ! Goodmidnight to all of you :)
[08:32] <EmxBA> thanks
[08:32] <planetcall> enjoy !
[08:32] <skippy81> ok dizy, i have a 6200 in my machine, so i can pretty much copy my xorg file for you
[08:32] <kubuntu> I was wondering.. I'm running a dual boot with kubuntu and windoze, is there a way where i can edit the fstab so i can get into my windoze partition?
[08:32] <planetcall> kubuntu you can
[08:33] <rolando> Hello"
[08:33] <skippy81> but i think the reason your boot failed is because your kernel driver did not match your xdriver dizy
[08:33] <skippy81> the message that x gave when it failed is very important
[08:33] <dizy> so what should i do ?
[08:33] <apokryphos> kubuntu: /msg ubotu ntfs
[08:33] <rolando> Any one can help me please...?
[08:33] <graft> dizy: does your nvidia kernel mod load ok?
[08:33] <EmxBA> !ntfs
[08:33] <ubotu> ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe.
[08:33] <rolando> I dont remember th IRC Channel of the COuncil
[08:33] <dizy> graft, not sure .. tell me how to check
[08:33] <planetcall> kubuntu,  see what i did for a window partition  ->       /dev/hdb6       /mnt/download   ntfs    auto,owner,exec,umask=000       0      0
[08:33] <phosphor> hey, anyone running ubuntu from an external hdd here?
[08:33] <graft> dizy: just type lsmod
[08:34] <skippy81> dizy can you link me the guide you used please, that way I can easily see what youve attempted to do
[08:34] <EmxBA> phosphor: i assume no
[08:34] <kubuntu> planetcall ok got cha! thanks =)
[08:34] <planetcall> yw !
[08:34] <NoUse> rolando what council?
[08:34] <phosphor> EmxBA: looks like it
[08:34] <planetcall> goodmidnight!
[08:34] <didimo> hola  a todos
[08:34] <dizy> skippy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?
[08:34] <phosphor> just that i am, and im a bit scared to update to dapper
[08:34] <dizy> skippy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:35] <phosphor> cos, I had a lot of trouble getting it to work with breezy in the first place
[08:35] <PPower> crimsun: no luck yet
[08:35] <saxin> you don't have to upgrade.. breezy is still working ;)
[08:35] <skippy81> ok dizy are you using dapper or breezy?
[08:35] <PPower> ill try disabling onboard sound
[08:35] <crimsun> PPower: is this on breezy or dapper?
[08:36] <PPower> breezy and SUSE 9.3
[08:36] <crimsun> PPower: you should try dapper
[08:36] <planetcall> phosphor, its a personal opinion....if yr breezy is working fine then you may stick with it. BWT.....i am using Breezy as well for now.
[08:36] <PPower> so it looks like a hardware thing
[08:36] <zach> can anyone help me enable dual monitors with ati 9500 NP and nvidia nforce 2 motherboard
[08:36] <PPower> ill try tommorow. ill disable sound and see how i get on
[08:36] <EmxBA> zach: what's the problem
[08:36] <delta> Hi.
[08:36] <delta> I'm having trouble with frequencies under the nvidia driver 87.62.
[08:36] <PPower> crimsun: how does ubuntu express work. is it good enough to give xp a run for its money ;)
[08:37] <Blue89> I am experiencing monitor problems with a  desktop that has ubuntu 5.10. is there a key combination I can use to shut down the computer properly with my mouse?
[08:37] <Hso> question, when mounting windows partitions, i read somewhere it about not being "safe" to write to it.. does that mean it could damage the partition, or it's vunerable to hackers?
[08:37] <dizy> graft,  i see "nvidia               4550772  0"
[08:37] <phosphor> planetcall, yeah breezy is doing me fine at the minute, just i would like to get my hands on some of the nice dapper features
[08:37] <dizy> skippy, dapper
[08:37] <planetcall> try live CD
[08:37] <PPower> thats the new isntaller one isnt it
[08:37] <HymnToLife> phosphor> why not upgrade then ?
[08:37] <planetcall> or for that reason you may go for an upgrade
[08:37] <skippy81> dizy open a terminal, and type the following: "sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-restricted-modules-common nvidia-glx nvidia-settings nvidia-kernel-common".  Paste the output to http://pastebin.com/ please
[08:38] <NoUse> Blue89 Ctrl+Alt+F1 will take you to a terminal and then Ctrl+atl+delete will reboot
[08:38] <PPower> DO NOT UPGRADE. Sorry for shouting but loads of peoples boxes has been screwed up by upgrades
[08:38] <skippy81> once that is done you should have a 'clean' system
[08:38] <EmxBA> hey
[08:38] <EmxBA> does anyone know why espresso is so buggy
[08:38] <phosphor> HymnToLife: im running ubuntu completely from an external hdd, which can complicate booting a LOT
[08:38] <zach> I installed fglrx driver with synaptic..but i dont think its set as default driver.... then when i try aticonfig it says to run initial but that doesnt work because driver is not set to default and I had this once but set to dual monitor when it should just be set to one large monitor(horizontal) because it just set up 2 separte x windows
[08:38] <PPower> 8-[[08:38] <PPower> its buggy?
[08:38] <EmxBA> while installing, it disables swap partition (swapoff) and everything goes to hell
[08:38] <delta> skippy81: sorry, did you se my question? it's related to nvidia.
[08:38] <PPower> um...
[08:39] <PPower> i think osnews got it ok
[08:39] <skippy81> could you repeat it pls delta, i can see it above
[08:39] <EmxBA> PPower: what could I do
[08:39] <planetcall> phosphor, I am having 2 HDD. Primary is an old 20GB one with Breezy and another one is 80GB with Windows............it is in many ways better to have 2 HDD
[08:39] <EmxBA> it just crashes
[08:39] <NoUse> EmxBA how much RAM to you have?
[08:39] <skippy81> dizy once you have done step 1), do this :"sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`"
[08:39] <EmxBA> 256
[08:39] <EmxBA> :D
[08:39] <Blue89> NoUse, ty I will type shutdown in the terminal, that should work
[08:39] <dizy> skippy, http://pastebin.com/747336
[08:39] <EmxBA> NoUse: can i private you?
[08:40] <NoUse> EmxBA I'd prefer not
[08:40] <NoUse> EmxBA I'd report a bug if its a crashing
[08:40] <delta> skippy81: I'm having trouble with frequencies under the nvidia driver 87.62. They're too low. It worked well with previous version (shiped with Breezy) and "nv" worked good as well. What can I do?
[08:40] <zach> EmxBA: can you privately help me out...?
[08:40] <phosphor> planetcall: i have a laptop with win on the internal, but the drive is almost too small for a dual boot
[08:40] <EmxBA> NoUse: than we will spam the main channel
[08:40] <skippy81> good dizy step one went fine, now do step 2
[08:40] <EmxBA> zach: yes
[08:40] <phosphor> plus i want to build a desktop and slot the external drive in it at a later date
[08:40] <skippy81> delta, i think it is a known issue, my refresh is locked at 75
[08:41] <phosphor> so ill have my working system straight away
[08:41] <delta> skippy81: !
[08:41] <dizy> skippy, http://pastebin.com/747342
[08:41] <EmxBA> on first beta 6.06 it works fine till starting gparted, tha it disables my swap, because i have only 256 MB of RAM, everything...dies
[08:41] <skippy81> oh sorry delta  you mean clock speed frequencys? or monitor refresh?
[08:41] <EmxBA> but on flight 7 I get error with python
[08:41] <delta> skippy81: monitor refresh
[08:41] <EmxBA> something in /usr/bin/python
[08:41] <didimo> alguien de ecuador
[08:42] <EmxBA> undefined something
[08:42] <skippy81> delta, the more info about your monitor you can get the better
[08:42] <skippy81> dizy ok good job
[08:42] <NoUse> EmxBA have you tried the RC?
[08:42] <EmxBA> NoUse, no i haven't
[08:43] <EmxBA> i have dialup
[08:43] <EmxBA> :(
[08:43] <delta> skippy81: but, it worked with these settings before, that's why I'm surprised.
[08:43] <skippy81> now i want you do "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[08:43] <NoUse> EmxBA well then we can't confirm that this problem still exists
[08:43] <planetcall> dialup exists ?
[08:43] <skippy81> delta, that is strange, is there anyway that the nvidia program overwrote your settings
[08:43] <Besso> When turning on ESD ther comes no voice on my flashplyer
[08:44] <EmxBA> NoUse, no i have dialup, ti would take days to download RC
[08:44] <EmxBA> i got flight 7 from my friends :D
[08:44] <skippy81> dizy when its open, i want you to save a copy as xorg-backup.conf, then i want you to paste the file to pastebin and i will edit it for you
[08:44] <dizy> http://pastebin.com/747354
[08:44] <NoUse> EmxBA I'm just saying, this may have been fixed
[08:44] <skippy81> delta,  i dont suppose you use xgl/compiz by any chance?
[08:45] <skippy81> it is possible to override the default refrest with compiz
[08:45] <EmxBA> NoUse: maybe there were problems with making flight 7
[08:45] <delta> skippy81: I just edited xorg.conf to be sure :) Do you want to check any detail? No, just Xorg :)
[08:45] <NoUse> EmxBA Flights are alpha releases
[08:45] <EmxBA> i know
[08:45] <SurfnKid> hey guys how many desktops you think any pc can handle, i have 8 now
[08:45] <SurfnKid> workspaces
[08:45] <NoUse> EmxBA you can use the text-mode install CD, that doesn't require much memory
[08:46] <maruchan> if upgrade today, do i still have to update on the 1st
[08:46] <Besso> dose enyone know how to solve the problem with a webcam with microfon that takes over my soundcard
[08:46] <lisandro> hello, anyone from argentina??
[08:46] <NoUse> EmxBA you can order CDs on shipit
[08:46] <EmxBA> NoUse, i know, that's why I'm waiting final version
[08:46] <EmxBA> I've already ordered 6.06
[08:46] <NoUse> EmxBA ok
[08:46] <EmxBA> NoUse, do you know when are they getting shipped
[08:47] <EmxBA> they are shipped from Netherlands
[08:47] <planetcall> within next 2 months !
[08:47] <EmxBA> it took 15 days to come to Bosnia
[08:47] <planetcall> where are you from EmxBA ?
[08:47] <EmxBA> from netherlands
[08:47] <EmxBA> no
[08:47] <EmxBA> i live in Bosnia
[08:47] <g-nome> just saw a screenshot of vista - I'm impressed by the sidebar! Is there any way to get this "rss-reader" sidebar. or  a skin for the gdesklets-clock? Here the screenshot: http://scr3.golem.de/?d=0602/Windows_Vista&a=45506&s=6
[08:47] <NoUse> EmxBA I don't know
[08:47] <EmxBA> southeast europe
[08:48] <EmxBA> NoUse, i assume you know somethnig about former Yugoslavia :D
[08:48] <RancidLM> can any one suggest a good app that i can sync files on a didcated server between my laptop and my pc
[08:48] <planetcall> took about 2 months to reach here in India !
[08:48] <EmxBA> RancidLM: you don't need app, just use crossover cable
[08:48] <EmxBA> planetcall: but i ordered 5.10 on 10th May
[08:48] <skippy81> dizy : http://pastebin.com/747369 your new xorg.conf
[08:49] <Besso> Has enyone ever had problems with the webcam microfon and the soundcard?????????????????????????????
[08:49] <EmxBA> and it came yesterday
[08:49] <RancidLM> EmxBA: umm i understand networking side of it, but im talking about a application that will sync my settings to all the computers
[08:49] <planetcall> must have been ahead in queue
[08:49] <skippy81> dizy: if you fail to start x again, please try and note down the errors x gives you
[08:49] <NoUse> Besso it probably needs more question marks
[08:49] <skippy81> and makesure you have a backup handy :)
[08:49] <dizy> k.. brb
[08:49] <EmxBA> just make first computer 192.168.0.1 and other 192.168.0.1 and gateway 192.168.0.1
[08:50] <Linuturk_NB> what is the easiest way to get a gui on a ubuntu server?
[08:50] <EmxBA> with route
[08:50] <Linuturk_NB> preferably gnome
[08:50] <amphi> Linuturk_NB: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop perhaps
[08:50] <planetcall> Linuturk_NB,  apt-get install gnome-desktop
[08:50] <planetcall> sorry......... ubuntu-desktop
[08:50] <Linuturk_NB> using 6.06, mind you
[08:50] <skippy81> delta, sorry mate got distracted with dizys file
[08:50] <Linuturk_NB> the rc
[08:51] <skippy81> delta, do you know your monitors vertical and horizonal limits?
[08:51] <EmxBA> hey
[08:51] <EmxBA> brb
[08:51] <EmxBA> tommorow :D
[08:51] <Minty> hi all
[08:51] <EmxBA> bye
[08:51] <grndslm> RancidLM, I think you're talking about a domain controller
[08:51] <g-nome> just saw a screenshot of vista - I'm impressed by the sidebar! Is there any way to get this "rss-reader" sidebar. or  a skin for the gdesklets-clock? Here the screenshot: http://scr3.golem.de/?d=0602/Windows_Vista&a=45506&s=6
[08:51] <zach> can anyone help me setup dual monitors
[08:52] <phosphor> Besso: looks like a no
[08:52] <kspath> Is there an ubuntu channel that does not mention M$ products every few minutes?
[08:53] <g-nome> hey it's good to compare
[08:53] <DevilsAdvocate> speaking of which
[08:53] <ompaul> kspath, they loose time and again :)
[08:53] <skippy81> g-nome ive seen better results done with gdesklets
[08:53] <g-nome> and the rss-reader is really cool i have to admit
[08:53] <DevilsAdvocate> is there a good way to access my ntfs hds?
[08:53] <planetcall> Good Exists.........because there is something bad !
[08:53] <DevilsAdvocate> i already mounted them
[08:53] <ompaul> !stfs
[08:53] <ubotu> ompaul: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:53] <DevilsAdvocate> but they're read online
[08:53] <Besso> I will be glad if you can help phosphor
[08:53] <ompaul> !ntfs
[08:53] <ubotu> ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe.
[08:53] <g-nome> skippy81: i'm just interested in the rss reader and the clock
[08:53] <delta> skippy81: certainly, it worked like a charm with Breezy :)
[08:53] <grndslm> g-nome, did you search google?
[08:53] <phosphor> Besso: what is the make of the webcam?
[08:54] <planetcall> DevilsAdvocate, /dev/hdb6       /mnt/download   ntfs    auto,owner,exec,umask=000       0      0
[08:54] <g-nome> grndslm: the internet is vast$
[08:54] <skippy81> g-nome http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_app_list&gd_sub_app_list=13
[08:54] <zach> is gdesklets like osx dock?
[08:54] <monk> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu 5.10 and acer travelmate 2354LCi
[08:54] <planetcall> edit your fstab DevilsAdvocate
[08:54] <phosphor> g-nome: take a look at gdesklets, lovely and open source :P
[08:54] <fuba> is there an ubuntu equivelant of fedora's system-config-display?
[08:54] <nox-Hand> Does anyone know a program that can record my desktops stuff?
[08:54] <skippy81> delta, well you could pastebin your xorg.conf and ill have a look, but personally i would blame the drivers
[08:54] <graft> that's Vista? holy cow, they totally ripped off Mac OS-X
[08:54] <nox-Hand> I wish to record an xgl demo.
[08:54] <monk> when i try to switch displays with FN+F5 it freezes
[08:54] <maruchan> gksudo "update-manager -d" are some fo the links down?
[08:55] <maruchan> i cant upgrade
[08:55] <node23> ye nox, frame buffer dumps glued together ;-p ( joking )
[08:55] <Besso> It is a Philis webcam .... and the built in microfon on it taks over my voicecard and then no sound comes from my computer
[08:55] <skippy81> yeah vista aero theme is basically a cheap ripoff of OSX, but you have to pay extra to get it lol
[08:55] <sindrum> whats gonna mack me want vista over xp?
[08:55] <sindrum> make**
[08:55] <delta> skippy81: http://pastebin.com/747387 :)
[08:55] <g-nome> skippy81: phosphor: thanks! i knew of gdesklets but never saw this site
[08:55] <planetcall>  graft.....remember the OS-X promo..?    Redmonds Start your Copiers !
[08:55] <node23> vista == hardware intense
[08:55] <g-nome> it's 10000 better than vista
[08:55] <phosphor> Besso: are you runing breezy?
[08:55] <grndslm> anybody know if the ubuntu would be able to support the core duo processor in the new macbooks?
[08:56] <Morrowyn> apple should free tiger from the apple hardware and let it run loose on pc hardware
[08:56] <sindrum> hardware intense
[08:56] <kspath> sindrum: What is going to make you want Dapper is you are asking about M$ product?
[08:56] <soundray> !info msttcorefonts dapper
[08:56] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[08:56] <sindrum> ?
[08:56] <ompaul> !offtopic
[08:56] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[08:56] <grndslm> g-nome....it was the first link on google
[08:56] <Besso> no Dapper Drake
[08:56] <ompaul> !dapper
[08:56] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[08:56] <node23> ie: its hard on your hardware sindrum
[08:56] <sindrum> ohh...
[08:57] <skippy81> delta, one thing you could try: if you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" towards the end of the process it asks if you want "advanced, medium or easy" monitor settings
[08:57] <dizy> skippy,  thanks that worked
[08:57] <yylex> hello.
[08:57] <node23> its min requirments are high apprently sindrum
[08:57] <skippy81> good dizy :) horray :)
[08:57] <nox-Hand> back
[08:57] <phosphor> so, when you use the webcam, you can't hear any other sounds?
[08:57] <skippy81> delta, if you go for the medium option, you can specify a given refresh rate and resolution
[08:57] <nox-Hand> Anyone?
[08:58] <skippy81> delta that may work
[08:58] <g-nome> grndslm: to be honest i never thought about GDesklets
[08:58] <Minty> how do i get a apt get NOT to look at my E ?? 'E: Couldn't find package azureus'
[08:58] <g-nome> search
[08:58] <delta> skippy81: thanks. Let me try that :)
[08:58] <alex19> para terminar mi sesion como termino?
[08:58] <dizy> skippy, one more q.   for my tablet to work i haveto do   sudo ln -s /dev/input/wacom /dev/wacom   but that resets every time i reboot... how can i make sure that the link stays
[08:58] <Besso> NO ..... there is nothing when the webcam is plugged in but when I unpluggit .... the sound works nicelly
[08:58] <grndslm> g-nome, i'll forgive you this time, since i just asked a question i easily found on google after changing my terminology
[08:58] <NoUse> Minty E means error there
[08:59] <NoUse> !tell Minty about azureus
[08:59] <phosphor> sounds like (mind the pun :P) its just a volume setting problem
[08:59] <delta> skippy81: oh, did you have a look at xorg;conf? anything wrong there?
[08:59] <wubrgamer> hey, how do i put icons.....like the trash can on my desktop ? i want to remove it from the panel and move it to the desktop
[08:59] <phosphor> when you plug the webcam in, open the volume control
[08:59] <Besso> no I have tryed everything
[08:59] <phosphor> right
[08:59] <phosphor> hmm
[09:00] <node23> ok now im worried :S my ubuntu install didnt ask me to set a root password X_x how the fock am i ment to drop to root with su now when i want to make changes only root can make
[09:00] <zerny> Hello, I am installing Dapper RC from a Desktop CD and having problems with the partitioning step of the installation. First, can one resize a ntfs partition with the graphical tool in Ubiquity? If so I am getting the error message: "Faild to create space for installation"
[09:00] <NoUse> !tell node23 about root
[09:00] <NoUse> !tell zerny about dapper
[09:00] <kspath> node23: sudo
[09:00] <eduardo> ola, sou virgem neste mundo
[09:00] <phosphor> im not sure to be honest Besso
[09:00] <eduardo> alguem pode me dar um help
[09:00] <node23> ah :-) happy again
[09:00] <NoUse> !br
[09:00] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[09:00] <LKRaider> eduardo: entre no canal ubuntu-br
[09:00] <kspath> !tell eduardo about br
[09:01] <skippy81> delta, your xorg conf looked ok to me
[09:01] <monk> !ro
[09:01] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, monk
[09:01] <phosphor> sorry :(
[09:01] <Besso> The problem is that Ubuntu makes the microfon in my webcam like its default voicecard .... but the microfon is no voicecard
[09:01] <eduardo> ok, vo procurar
[09:01] <Besso> and therfot no vouce
[09:01] <ciruzzo> hi
[09:01] <phosphor> right i see
[09:01] <skippy81> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 delta, lots of people mentioning refresh problems on this forum
[09:01] <ciruzzo> how can I read wma files on ubuntu?
[09:02] <NoUse> !wma
[09:02] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:02] <dizy> skippy81,  im trying to change my resolution but it doesn't allow me to go as high as I want.. only to 1024x768
[09:02] <Sammi84> install automatix on breezy or bumps on dapper
[09:02] <phosphor> i know very little about multimedia on ubuntu
[09:02] <spikeb> !automatix
[09:02] <ubotu> I guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[09:02] <spikeb> do no tuse it.
[09:02] <NoUse> Sammi84 don't recommend automatix
[09:02] <phosphor> automatix is a good idea, if it worked
[09:02] <Sammi84> hey it worked fine for me
[09:02] <ke> !easyubuntu
[09:02] <ubotu> easyubuntu is, like, an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[09:02] <phosphor> i have a lot of broken installs from it
[09:03] <NoUse> phosphor easyubuntu is better
[09:03] <node23> Besso:May be likely your cam is using a chipset that has soundsupport but is not used, i had the same problem with my Trust Spacecam
[09:03] <node23> if that makes sense
[09:03] <Sammi84> I'll recomend it to anyone!
[09:03] <NoUse> Sammi84 its a really bad piece of sofware
[09:03] <NoUse> Sammi84 we recommend easyubuntu
[09:03] <Sammi84> if it works then it works and that's all I need
[09:03] <skippy81> dizy, can you pastebin you /etc/X11/xorg.conf for me again please?
[09:04] <skippy81> i will alter it for higher resolution
[09:04] <NoUse> Sammi84 but it has the potentially to severly break the system its on
[09:04] <Besso> Node23 how did you solved it?
[09:04] <errordeveloper> i have instlled ubuntu from stcratch , and evrything is set up fine already, but it doesnt wanna bring the eth0 up on boot .. what could be wrong ?
[09:04] <phosphor> NoUse: easyubuntu? havnt seen it before
[09:04] <NoUse> !tell phosphor about easyubuntu
[09:04] <NoUse> Sammi84 easy ubuntu does the same thing but much safer
[09:04] <skippy81> also dizy do you know what resolution you normally work at? is 1280x1024 good for you?
[09:05] <skippy81> the gnome resolution changers is useless i will have to write your res into xorg for you
[09:05] <eduardo> voltei, no sei como entrar no canal ubuntu - br
[09:05] <phosphor> NoUse: ill take a look, not that i need much of the software anymore anyway :P but its useful for codecs and stuff
[09:05] <delta> skippy81: ah, thanks for the link. Let me read there :)3
[09:05] <eduardo>  mas nem sei como
[09:05] <node23> Besso: I didnt, but that may not be the problem with yours, if you can find out what chipset your cam uses internaly you may be able to find out what the deal is
[09:05] <Sammi84> dude where do you get this from that Automatix is undafe?
[09:06] <brainlessbob> I have a .deb package. How do I run it?
[09:06] <Sammi84> *unsafe
[09:06] <skippy81> delta, you should have luck - i think i read there that if you define a "modeline" you can beat the 75hz limit
[09:06] <kspath> eduardo: solamente ingles
[09:06] <NoUse> !tell Sammi84 about automatic
[09:06] <NoUse> !tell Sammi84 about automatix
[09:06] <dizy> skippy81,  1920x1600     if theres a place that i can choose my monitor driver... i remember seeing it somewhere that its available.. im on the hp L2335
[09:06] <phosphor> brainlessbob: you have to install it
[09:06] <Besso> OK
[09:06] <brainlessbob> phosphor: how?
[09:06] <eduardo> ok, thanks
[09:06] <phosphor> look at the wiki
[09:07] <NoUse> Sammi84 take a look at the source code
[09:07] <Besso> It seems to be a good step to a solution
[09:07] <skippy81> lol dizy, are you sure your monitor can handle 1920x1600? is it a 23 inch?
[09:07] <brainlessbob> will do. thanks
[09:07] <dizy> yes.. 23"wide
[09:07] <skippy81> ok dizy, paste me your xorg conf
[09:07] <phosphor> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebInstaller?highlight=%28deb%29%7C%28install%29
[09:07] <errordeveloper> i have installed ubuntu from scratch , and evrything is set up fine already, but it doesnt wanna bring eth0 up on boot .. what could be wrong ?
[09:07] <errordeveloper> ??
[09:08] <dizy> skippy, http://pastebin.com/747415
[09:08] <CoOlGhOsT> NoUse: u still around?
[09:08] <NoUse> CoOlGhOsT yes
[09:08] <errordeveloper> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebInstaller?highlight=%28deb%29%7C%28install%29
[09:08] <Zappa> has anyone had a problem with the current dapper whereby icons for KDE applications no longer appear in the gnome notification area (systray type thing)
[09:08] <delta> skippy81: oh, very interesting. You're a very helpfull and efficient person, skippy81. Thanks a lot for the help you're providing nicely to everybody here :)
[09:08] <errordeveloper> was it for me phosphor ?
[09:08] <CoOlGhOsT> did you say something to me earlier?
[09:08] <dizy> skippy,  but isn't there somewhere to specify which monitor i have from a list
[09:08] <NoUse> CoOlGhOsT yeah I just said to google that last error message from your pastebin
[09:08] <phosphor> ahm no - sorry :(
[09:09] <dizy> because on ubuntu 5.10 i remmber selecting my monitor from the list
[09:09] <skippy81> thankyou for your kinda comments delta mate :)
[09:09] <phosphor> errordeveloper: it was for brainlessbob
[09:09] <errordeveloper> :[] 
[09:09] <delta> skippy81: I'm sincere :)
[09:09] <skippy81> ok dizy im working on it now, im looking up your monitor specs on the net so may take a couple of minutes :)
[09:09] <skippy81> delta :)
[09:09] <brainlessbob> phosphor: thanks :D
[09:10] <phosphor> brainlessbob: np
[09:10] <grndslm> errordeveloper, do you know what kinda NIC you've got?
[09:10] <CoOlGhOsT> NoUse: tried and with no luck so far
[09:10] <errordeveloper> grndslm: it is via_rhine , i compiled it in the kernel ,
[09:10] <dizy> thanks skippy
[09:10] <errordeveloper> and edited /etc/network/interfaces
[09:11] <NoUse> CoOlGhOsT can you pastebin the output of 'lsmod'
[09:11] <CoOlGhOsT> gonna try a reboot with fglrx in /etc/modules.. brb
[09:11] <CoOlGhOsT> sure... hang on
[09:11] <errordeveloper> it comes up right i network-admin , and if you ppress activate it gets up alright
[09:11] <grndslm> errordeveloper, hmm...i have no idea
[09:11] <errordeveloper> grndslm: ;]  me neither , i'm a slackware user ..
[09:12] <errordeveloper> #] 
[09:12] <grndslm> i had a problem with a davicom semiconductor NIC, conflicting with tulip modules....
[09:12] <CoOlGhOsT> NoUse: http://pastebin.com/747433
[09:12] <delta> skippy81: restarting X.
[09:12] <grndslm> errordevloper, the forums might be a better place to let your question sit still for awhile and catch somebody with a little more networking knowledge
[09:13] <errordeveloper> i see, but i dont have a kernel related problem , it something to do with rc scripts, but it's not clear to me how the scripst work on ubuntu
[09:13] <NoUse> CoOlGhOsT try 'sudo rmmod drm && sudo rmmod radeon'
[09:13] <NoUse> CoOlGhOsT then try inserting the fglx module
[09:13] <CoOlGhOsT> ok.. lemme try that
[09:13] <guize> running on kernel 2.6.12-9-386. is there a "patch" package to get ipw2200 working... supported in 2.6.4 kernel ...?
[09:14] <grndslm> errordeveloper, try reading all the files in the /etc/init.d directory.... that's all i could tell ya
[09:14] <grndslm> i am no programmer
[09:14] <errordeveloper> see..
[09:14] <errordeveloper> :]  cheers anyway ;] 
[09:14] <thugy> hi, i've installed frostwire and downloaded a mp3, my sound works but i cant hear the mp3 playing, can anyone help please.
[09:15] <mountingstuff> hi m8s
[09:15] <mountingstuff> I just need one silly stuff really hard for my noobish
[09:15] <mountingstuff> how can I mount a DOS parition??
[09:15] <phosphor> thugy: have you codecs installed?
[09:15] <dblpd> hi, does anyone in here know if banshee actually supports DAAP?
[09:15] <CoOlGhOsT> NoUse: cant... it says radeon is in use and drm depends on radeon
[09:15] <grndslm> I recommend that ubotu show a link to the wiki every 2 or 3 minutes!
[09:15] <mountingstuff> mount -t vfat /dev/hda5 /mnt
[09:15] <mountingstuff> mount: only root can do that
[09:15] <CoOlGhOsT> i think i need to reboot
[09:15] <mountingstuff> i receive that
[09:15] <CoOlGhOsT> brb
[09:15] <thugy> phosphor,  how do i do that?
[09:16] <lnostdal> mountingstuff, add sudo before the command
[09:16] <mountingstuff> oh! thks :P
[09:16] <phosphor> thugy: you can find them online yourself, but there are other pieces of software to do it for you
[09:16] <thugy> phosphor,  im saying cant i sudo for them or w/e
[09:16] <mountingstuff> /dev/hda5 already mounted or /mnt busy
[09:16] <thugy> or can you guiide me a site to get it from
[09:16] <mountingstuff> that means
[09:16] <mountingstuff> that is mounted?
[09:16] <thugy> im new to linux and trying to get accustom to it
[09:16] <Toba> can I use dpkg or apt-get to ask when a package was installed/what version it is?
[09:16] <phosphor> thugy: ill send you a link: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/index.html
[09:17] <lnostdal> (you can also use system -> administration -> disks .. that program will ask you for password)
[09:17] <mountingstuff> i've tried to run with wine
[09:17] <mountingstuff> and couldn't
[09:17] <planetcall> errordeveloper, for your rc scripts problem......try bum   link :  http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[09:17] <Toba> I'd rather not use synaptic to find the version
[09:17] <thugy> phosphor,  thanks.
[09:17] <lnostdal> mountingstuff, check what is mounted, and where by typing mount
[09:17] <skippy81> dizy, http://pastebin.com/747446 remember to backup your old one again:)
[09:17] <phosphor> thugy: non-free codecs arent available from the repositories for legal reasons
[09:17] <phosphor> but it doesnt mean you cant get them
[09:17] <mountingstuff> ok after I'll see
[09:17] <mountingstuff> thks for your help :P
[09:18] <planetcall> mountinstuff.........go to System > Administration > Disks
[09:18] <planetcall> mount your window partition from there
[09:18] <dizy> thanks skippy.... really helpfull 2 days in a row... making this whole newbie thing easier :)   gotta run... ttyl
[09:18] <dblpd> hi, does anyone know if/how DAAP works in banshee?
[09:18] <planetcall> also,   do this->    sudo mkdir /opt/temp
[09:19] <monk> hi, anyone can help me with external vga on acer laptop?
[09:19] <PPower> back with my login trouble again. it isnt the ck804 audio controller. i guess it could be the pci-e or the graphics card now as i can log into a terminal
[09:20] <CoOlGhOsT> NoUse: its working... put fglrx in /etc/module
[09:20] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[09:20] <CoOlGhOsT> s
[09:20] <PPower> crimsun: your still here. ill try the dapper soon. it isnt the audio thing.
[09:20] <NoUse> CoOlGhOsT yeah the probably was radeon has already claimed the card
[09:20] <NoUse> CoOlGhOsT glad its working
[09:20] <Lord_Athur> I've got ubuntu 5.10 currently, where can I get the sources.list of drapper to upgrade?
[09:21] <ompaul> !upgrade
[09:21] <ubotu> I guess upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[09:21] <CoOlGhOsT> NoUse: yeah that would explain it
[09:21] <CoOlGhOsT> NoUse: me too... and thanks a whole bunch for helping!
[09:21] <|Tom|> did i d/c ?
[09:21] <NoUse> CoOlGhOsT no prob
[09:21] <ompaul> Lord_Athur,  please go to the channel #ubuntu+1 for the dapper help cheers it will be back here in 2 days
[09:21] <callie>  anyone here exprienced problems converting wma to mp3 using soundconverter?
[09:22] <kbrooks> what will happen on june 1
[09:22] <Noah0504> Yay!  Just two days until Dapper Final!  hehe, I'm already using Dapper and think it's the best thing since sliced bread.
[09:22] <kbrooks> Noah0504: hehe.
[09:22] <|Tom|> if only those ralink drivers would at least be a bit stable in dapper :(
[09:22] <ompaul> kbrooks, are you serious, dapper
[09:22] <skippy81> yeah dapper is quacking excellent :)
[09:23] <kbrooks> um
[09:23] <kbrooks> i am in fedora, but i should reboot to ubuntu :)
[09:23] <kbrooks> and update it...
[09:23] <kbrooks> so brb
[09:23] <ompaul> offtopic
[09:23] <kbrooks> ompaul: no, you mean +1
[09:23] <thugy> !nvidia
[09:23] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:23] <ompaul> kbrooks,  no your offtopic :-) your chatting
[09:24] <Otacon22> How can i see what is the power of my processor from the ubuntu shell?
[09:24] <Otacon22> ???
[09:24] <kspath> Otacon22: power?
[09:24] <Otacon22> hem
[09:24] <ompaul> Otacon22, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:24] <Otacon22> mhtz
[09:24] <Otacon22> tnz
[09:24] <monk> !laptop
[09:24] <ubotu> hmm... laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org
[09:25] <PPower> any tips for my continuing login trouble?
[09:26] <skippy81> PPower what do you mean by login trouble please?
[09:26] <PPower> when i log in the brown screen comes up, sound plays and then it locks up with no splash screen. it is not the sound driver as i have tested that and suse has trouble too. i can log in to terminal
[09:26] <kspath> Otacon22: please turn that off
[09:27] <kspath> !tell Otacon22 about away
[09:28] <lurker99> PPower: system hardware is?
[09:28] <PPower> nforce 4 motherboard (foxconn ck804 one, there is only one) amd athlon 64 3200, xfx geforce 6600le on pci-e
[09:28] <PPower> ubuntu 5.10 x86 as i need flash and stuff
[09:29] <phosphor> just a minor annoyance, my breezy still plays the logon jingle even when its been cleared in the sound prefrences
[09:29] <phosphor> any idea how to turn it off, what config file its it?
[09:29] <delta> skippy81: in case it may help someone else: it finally worked :)
[09:29] <skippy81> PPower, before you enter your user name and password you should be able to choose a different session, see if there is a "safer" option
[09:29] <PPower> when i choose a option on the sessions menu it locks up
[09:29] <delta> skippy81: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=861453&postcount=18
[09:30] <phosphor> PPower: are you getting any error logs?
[09:30] <PPower> not that i can see. i can not quit x once it has locked up
[09:30] <PPower> though i can move the mouse
[09:30] <skippy81> delta, oh cool, you used the modeline thing then?
[09:30] <kspath> PPower: alt-ctrl-F1 works?
[09:30] <PPower> no
[09:30] <Lord_Athur>  mmm I need some cds, for me and for a lot of friends who want to use drapper, so I made requests for some cds with my account, can I get another account of launchpad for more cds?
[09:31] <skippy81> delta, maybe if you have chance you could post a mini how-to on www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:31] <delta> skippy81: modeline didn't suffice. I had to add 3 option lines in the Device section.
[09:31] <kspath> PPower: shift-alt-ctrl-F1 works?
[09:31] <PPower> no keyboard input can be used once it has locked up.
[09:31] <PPower> cant even ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:31] <delta> skippy81: my english is, well, ahm, how to say, very, very bad :)
[09:31] <kspath> PPower: always locks up in X ?
[09:32] <mnvl> stop being so modest delta :)
[09:32] <PPower> yeah. but it seems to be related to sound output
[09:32] <skippy81> hehe, seems allright to me :D well im glad you sorted it anyway delta
[09:32] <skippy81> those nividia/linux forums are very good
[09:32] <PPower> but turning off the onboard ck804 soudn makes no effect
[09:32] <lurker99> PPower: had a similar problem on an older labtop.  boot option 'acpi=off' solved it.  MNBYP though...
[09:32] <delta> mnvl: argh, au secours !
[09:32] <PPower> tried that on suse which was having the same problems with no effect
[09:32] <delta> what are you doing here mnvl?! :)
[09:32] <planetcall> past my bed time...GoodMidNight Once Again !
[09:33] <skippy81> PPower,  "noapic, nolapic" are good for laptop freezes
[09:33] <PPower> i have a desktop
[09:33] <skippy81> PPower, oh i see sorry :D
[09:33] <mnvl> stalking you.. not really. i installed ubuntu two days ago
[09:33] <delta> Thanks a lot for all your help, skippy81 :)
[09:33] <PPower> imagine a 3200+ in a laptop
[09:33] <skippy81> np delta, glad your all set now :)
[09:33] <delta> mnvl: dapper?
[09:33] <mnvl> breezy
[09:34] <delta> mnvl: dapper is due in... 2 days!
[09:34] <eyequeue> delta, with breakage in ... 1? ;)
[09:35] <PPower> skippy81: what do you think?
[09:35] <mnvl> i couldn't wait that long. wireless has been broken in my previous distro for roughly 6 months
[09:35] <skippy81> PPower, are you running dapper?
[09:35] <PPower> no.
[09:35] <eyequeue> mnvl, welcome to ubuntu btw ... everything as expected so far?
[09:36] <skippy81> I think that your best option is to download the dapperdrake RC1 desktop CD and try to run it in live mode
[09:36] <Noah0504> mnvl: What distro were you using before?
[09:36] <PlumTree> hello
[09:36] <PlumTree> I have just installed ubuntu and I do not know what to do :P Help
[09:36] <skippy81> you pc is pretty new PPower and you will probably have better support in dapper, i had stability problems in breezy also
[09:36] <PlumTree> I have some problems.
[09:36] <mnvl> eyequeue, all good thanx except windows file and printer sharing..
[09:36] <Noah0504> PlumTree: What are you problems?
[09:37] <PPower> skippy: thanks. ill try that. i have a thread on ubuntuforums. just search for nforce lockup
[09:37] <eyequeue> PlumTree, you appear to be in irc well :)  what is the next thing we can help with?
[09:37] <thugy> !tor
[09:37] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thugy
[09:37] <skippy81> PPower, if you have a decent connection you should be able to download the cd in < 3 hours
[09:37] <PlumTree> Well, I am a girl :P
[09:37] <PPower> 1mbit.
[09:37] <thugy> !tell thugy tor
[09:37] <PPower> i am a bit tired now
[09:37] <PlumTree> :P
[09:37] <eyequeue> mnvl, sadly i'm no use with either, sorry
[09:37] <NoUse> PlumTree thats not usually considered a problem
[09:37] <thugy> how do i get tor?
[09:37] <PlumTree> Everything is so small
[09:37] <skippy81> PPower, just make sure you get the 'desktop' CD, it has a live mode so you can test without installing it
[09:37] <mnvl> eyequeue, i wasn't really expecting them to work, sadly..
[09:38] <skippy81> if it makes you feel better, i had issues running breezy also
[09:38] <T_CAN> ubotu tell T-CAN about boot manager
[09:38] <NoUse> PlumTree you mean like icons on the desktop are too small?
[09:38] <|Tom|> PlumTree: change your resolution or buy yourself a decent pair of glasses
[09:38] <|Tom|> (or get a bigger monitor :s)
[09:38] <PlumTree> I have to be closer and closer to the screen to see anything ;P
[09:38] <PPower> ok. the thread number is 184687 so it shouldnt be too hard to find it. thanks. if your not on ill post there. bye
[09:38] <eyequeue> mnvl, oh, i know others have done that, i just have zero experience with either .... "samba" is typically the first step
[09:38] <T_CAN> ubotu tell T-CAN about automount
[09:38] <PlumTree> my monitor is enough big :P 17' is ideal for me.
[09:38] <|Tom|> change your resolution then ;)
[09:39] <skippy81> i hate my 17inch, i have a 21 at home
[09:39] <PlumTree> I do not know what to do with this problem and how to increase the letters etc.
[09:39] <extern> where can I find a script file which would be executed each time ubuntu is loading?
[09:39] <NoUse> PlumTree System -> Prefs -> Screen Resolution and change it to a lower Resolution
[09:39] <PlumTree> |Tom|, how I can do this?
[09:39] <skippy81> extern,  what is your goal?
[09:39] <eyequeue> extern, /etc/init.d/*
[09:39] <phosphor> extern: ?
[09:39] <extern> to configure iptables
[09:39] <|Tom|> in ubuntu? Dunno ... am using KUbuntu ;)
[09:40] <|Tom|> isn't it somewhere in System or Utilities in your meny?
[09:40] <delta> skippy81: I'm on the live cd btw :)
[09:40] <T_CAN> anyway I can automount a device so that it mounts automically on bootup?
[09:40] <red-sox> I have no GUI on my dapper live CD
[09:40] <disinterested_pe> my goal is to get my volume to work from my keyboard
[09:40] <PlumTree> wonderfull :P
[09:40] <PlumTree> NoUse, big kisses for you :P
[09:40] <delta> skippy81: which wm are you running?
[09:40] <PlumTree> my biggest problem doesn't exist now.
[09:40] <eyequeue> PlumTree, look at System > Preferences > Font or System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[09:41] <skippy81> delta - gnome with xgl/compiz
[09:41] <NoUse> PlumTree :-)
[09:41] <hithere> hi m8s
[09:41] <xanavim> my network card doesn't get an IP address.  the device manager says the card is a "texas instruments 1450".  Is there a way to get an IP address?  it worked with warty ubuntu
[09:41] <extern> does all the files get executed in the init.d folder?
[09:41] <delta> skippy81: oh, you're a warrior :)
[09:41] <hithere> how can I mount my c: windows hard disk?
[09:41] <NoUse> !tell hithere about ntfs
[09:41] <PlumTree> but I am sure I will come here often :P
[09:41] <skippy81> delta, hehe, yeah a warrior with too much time on my hands
[09:41] <|Tom|> xanavim: are you using dhcp to get an ip address? or do you work with static ip addresses
[09:41] <skippy81> its all been pretty smooth though
[09:41] <PlumTree> I am a total noob with linux
[09:41] <xanavim> |Tom|: I'm using DHCP
[09:41] <crane> hello and howdy
[09:42] <eyequeue> extern, man update-rc.d for the boot philosophy, and an explanation of how it's ordered .... most do, not all will
[09:42] <hithere> ty
[09:42] <crane> Wish I was playing Quake4
[09:42] <delta> eyequeue: really?
[09:42] <|Tom|> xanavim: if you launch "ifconfig" in your console - does it recognise the card?
[09:42] <T_CAN> anyway I can automount a device so that it mounts automically on bootup?
[09:42] <skippy81> i have futher complcaed my life with running 64bit dapper so i have had to compile wine etc from scratch
[09:42] <georgeguitar>  Hello I'm trying to install this driver: spca5xx-20060501 on Ubuntu BREEZY, but when I write "make" I have this message:
[09:42] <|Tom|> xanavim: (and is the interface up?)
[09:42] <georgeguitar>  /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: don't exist
[09:42] <klebao> T_CAN > which device ?
[09:42] <xanavim> |Tom|: ifconfig says the interface is UP, yes, everything looks ok except for lack of assigned IP address
[09:42] <eyequeue> delta, /etc/rc.2/S23foo is usually a symlink to /etc/init.d/foo, for example
[09:42] <skippy81> georgeguitar, dont compile it
[09:42] <T_CAN> hard drive
[09:43] <phosphor> xanavim: is configure by DHCP on?
[09:43] <red-sox> I have no gui on the dapper live disk, I've an ATI video card.
[09:43] <|Tom|> xanavim: try sudo dhclient3
[09:43] <T_CAN> i have to mount it everytime i reboot
[09:43] <delta> skippy81: it doesn't make anymore doubt. I confirm you have too much time :)
[09:43] <georgeguitar> skippy81 yes
[09:43] <T_CAN> i would like to have it automount
[09:43] <xanavim> phosphor: yes
[09:43] <|Tom|> xanavim: it shoould try and get an ip address via dhcp then ...
[09:43] <Firerabbit> how do I get the "Sleep" button back in the GNOME Quit dialog?
[09:43] <skippy81> georgeguitar,  you allready should have the driver on your disk, its a standard part of the kernel just "sudo modprobe spca5xx"
[09:43] <extern> eyequeue, so can I make a seperate file or should I append to some other?
[09:43] <biocoded> T_CAN > edit /etc/fstab
[09:43] <delta> eyequeue: no, I meant: "delta, with breakage in ... 1? ;)" :)
[09:43] <eyequeue> delta, S*foo are executed sequentially, in runlevel2 in the above example
[09:43] <PlumTree> oops. I do not know how to close queries in ubuntu xchat :P
[09:44] <biocoded> T_CAN > You know /etc/fstab ?
[09:44] <georgeguitar> skippy81, I'll try, I don't know that was part of it
[09:44] <NoUse> PlumTree what do you mean by queries?
[09:44] <eyequeue> extern, i wojuld make a separate, then run the update-rc.d command to give it it's very own place in the boot sequence ("S20" is average)
[09:44] <T_CAN> yeah
[09:44] <eyequeue> delta, geez i hope not, lol
[09:44] <skippy81> yeah its always worth doing a filesearch of your disk before attempting to compile a driver, linux comes with a vast selection of them precompiled georgeguitar
[09:45] <phosphor> xanavim: did dhclient3 work?
[09:45] <xanavim> |Tom|: no, I get "No DHCPOFFERS received."
[09:45] <|Tom|> hmm
[09:45] <T_CAN> thanks bio
[09:45] <skippy81> what verison of ubuntu are you running georgeguitar ? im on dapper and have that module sitting on my disk
[09:45] <red-sox> How do I install the ATI drivers with no gui on the live cd?
[09:45] <eyequeue> extern, one otehrfactor, package upgrades could overwrite any changes you make, whereas separate is always safe
[09:45] <mnvl> skippy81, doesn't that seem to be a CVS version of a driver?
[09:45] <red-sox> Or even just install ubuntu dapper with no gui
[09:45] <hithere> lol nouse was easier that i founded on google
[09:45] <phosphor> who is your dhcp server?
[09:45] <hithere> thks a lot man :d
[09:45] <phosphor> do you have a router?
[09:45] <georgeguitar> spippy81 I have 5.04
[09:46] <xanavim> phosphor: I think it's an NT box somewhere in my company
[09:46] <extern> eyequeue, is those files executed as root user?
[09:46] <NoUse> hithere sorry what?
[09:46] <skippy81> mnvl, his one? im not sure, but he may as well try the included one frist
[09:46] <habenix> is it still a problem for grub to have an lvm boot or root partition?
[09:46] <mnvl> or a nightly version rather skippy81 (with a date)
[09:46] <hithere> nouse just that your help was really succesfully for me :)
[09:46] <eyequeue> extern, typically, though i believe there may be a "runas" option
[09:46] <NoUse> hithere oh ok :-)
[09:46] <phosphor> xanavim: is the ubuntu box a personal machine, the router might only assign ip addresses to certain MAC addresses
[09:46] <georgeguitar> skippy81 it works, and now how can I know if the driver runs?
[09:46] <pianoboy3333> Is there a way to uninstall something with a setup.py script that comes with a program? install, installs it, then ______ removes it?
[09:46] <extern> so I need to just type the commands to be executed?
[09:47] <hithere> bye m8s :) I hope one day i'll know a lot and can help the noobs like me :P
[09:47] <xanavim> phosphor: it worked fine with warty when I installed warty three days ago
[09:47] <skippy81> georgeguitar,  what is the piece of hardware ?
[09:47] <xanavim> phosphor: on the same machine
[09:47] <|Sivik|> how do i install the java plugin for mozilla?
[09:47] <eyequeue> extern, that man page (man update-rc.d) should point to all the info, but read over /etc/init.d/EXAMPLE or similarly named file, if present
[09:47] <skippy81> you can see if driver is loaded with "lsmod | grep spcaxx"
[09:47] <daniele> `
[09:48] <georgeguitar> skippy81 it's a EZonics webcam, the chip model is UVT8532
[09:49] <hugo__> ??
[09:49] <red-sox> How do I install ubuntu from the dapper live CD with no gui?
[09:49] <|Sivik|> red-sox, i don't think you can
[09:49] <daniele> hello. i have upgraded my ibook to dapper. now pbbuttonsd is replaced by gnome-power-manager. how i'm supposed to set up my mouse and keybord now?
[09:49] <red-sox> UGAHL
[09:49] <T_CAN> how do i edit /etc/fstab?
[09:49] <T_CAN> i cant save it from text editor
[09:49] <xanavim> red-sox: you could try starting up in text-only mode
[09:49] <red-sox> HmM...this really bites
[09:49] <red-sox> xanavim: K
[09:49] <dusty_> Hey guys whats the package name for gtk2.6 I need it installed for development purposes?
[09:49] <red-sox> good idea
[09:49] <|Sivik|> xanavim, but you can't install from a live cd
[09:49] <skippy81> ok georgeguitar, "lsmod | grep spca" will tell you if the driver is running
[09:50] <White_Lightning> T_CAN: you need to give yourself rights to it from a sudo username
[09:50] <biocoded> T_CAN > you must be root
[09:50] <phosphor> xanavim: drop a thread in the forum, im not big into networking but you might get a better response there once people have a chance to look over it
[09:50] <red-sox> |Sivik|: from the dapper live CD you can
[09:50] <habenix> any XEN gurus here?
[09:50] <NoUse> red-sox what kind of video card do you have?
[09:50] <skippy81> and then, georgeguitar, try downloading gnomemeeting or something like that and test your camera out
[09:50] <xanavim> |Sivik|: you can't start the new livecd, which is an installer, in text-only mode and install?
[09:50] <xanavim> phosphor: ok
[09:50] <skippy81> im afraid i dont have much specific knowledge on webcams, but i assume once the driver is loaded you should be on your way there
[09:50] <zcat[1] > mystery; I have just installed ubuntu on this box, sound works fine but I can't adjust the volume at all. Also I have two mixer controls SiS7012 and CMI9761 .. neither have any effect on what rhythmbox is playing...
[09:51] <|Sivik|> red-sox, then thats something new
[09:51] <georgeguitar> skippy81 thanks a lot I'm going to try with gnomemeeting
[09:51] <T_CAN> so just sudo -u username|#uid   ?
[09:51] <skippy81> ok georgeguitar good luck
[09:51] <skippy81> i hope it works out for you
[09:51] <NoUse> |Sivik| as of dapper, the live cd is the 'preferred' installation method
[09:51] <eyequeue> T_CAN, sudo gedit /etc/fstab, works
[09:52] <skippy81> im am logging for a few hours, cya all around :D
[09:52] <|Sivik|> NoUse: like i said, that must be new
[09:52] <phosphor> xanavim: can you assign an ip manually?
[09:52] <T_CAN> gotcha
[09:52] <|Sivik|> how do i install java support for firefox?
[09:52] <georgeguitar> I hope so :)
[09:52] <eyequeue> T_CAN, sudo -s, gets you root until you exit, if you need that
[09:52] <zcat[1] > liveCD is actually rather nice to isntall from too... very impressed..
[09:52] <T_CAN> thanks
[09:52] <PlumTree> well, I have another problem. If I do not disturb, could I ask you?
[09:52] <xanavim> phosphor: I guess I will try  (:
[09:52] <zcat[1] > a few questions at the start and the rest of the install is fully automated!
[09:52] <eyequeue> T_CAN, do exit as soon as you don't need root of course
[09:52] <ben_60657> can anyone recommend a good multiprotocol IM client...i know about GAIM...are there better ones?
[09:52] <|Sivik|> where can i download the dapper stuff?
[09:53] <xanavim> ben_60657: there's also kopete
[09:53] <ben_60657> xanavim: that's KDE based, correct?
[09:53] <CokeNCode> ben_60657 depends on what you mean by good
[09:53] <eyequeue> ubotu, tell |Sivik| about dapper
[09:53] <benplaut> ben_60657: kopete is very nice
[09:53] <CokeNCode> ben_60657 what features are you looking for
[09:53] <PlumTree> Is there a person who is patient and could explain some basic things with ubuntu for me?
[09:53] <tom-away> ben_60657: if you use KDE, definately try Kopete ...
[09:53] <benplaut> if you don't mind using qt
[09:53] <eyequeue> ubotu, tell |Sivik| about breezy->dapper
[09:53] <White_Lightning> T_CAN: sudo +766 filename
[09:53] <xanavim> ben_60657: it runs in gnome if that's what you mean
[09:53] <ben_60657> CokeNCode: yahoo, aim, irc mostly...i guess Gtalk too
[09:54] <CokeNCode> oh, if you want something that does them all, then trillian or gaim is your best bet
[09:54] <tom-away> i think kopete supports all protocols gaim supports
[09:54] <NoUse> |Sivik| http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/
[09:54] <zcat[1] > anything in linux that does yahoo cams ?
[09:54] <ben_60657> CokeNCode: one client to rule them all, eh?
[09:54] <CokeNCode> ben_60657 a jack of all trades and a master of none
[09:54] <CokeNCode> amsn is good for msn tho ...
[09:55] <|Sivik|> NoUse: found it
[09:55] <tom-away> amsn is a but slow though ... and it looks too much like the real msn messenger ;)
[09:55] <phosphor> amsn is the only one with web cam for msn isnt it?
[09:55] <RadiantFire> Anusien: how would I go about adding new shortcuts
[09:55] <ben_60657> CokeNCode: i don't have any friends who use MSN
[09:55] <CokeNCode> when you try to get one piece of software that does everything, it usually ends up lacking in a few areas
[09:55] <T_CAN> anyone have a list of handy terminal codes? :)
[09:55] <RadiantFire> Ii still have about 4 buttons left over that won't nicely fit into the shortcuts listed
[09:55] <biocoded> phosphor> mercury have cam in msn
[09:55] <tom-away> didn't gaim have this "experimental" plugin/extension for webcam support too?
[09:55] <FariSS> hi guys
[09:55] <ben_60657> so what's the basic difference between trillian and gaim
[09:56] <NoUse> !tell T_CAN about cli
[09:56] <crane> good greief I step away for 5 minutes and the messages are scrolling by
[09:56] <icecrash> hi
[09:56] <crane> Weeeeeeee
[09:56] <CokeNCode> for IRC BitchX is good, so is X-Chat
[09:56] <T_CAN> thx
[09:56] <CokeNCode> an all in one won't measure well to either of those
[09:56] <FariSS> please how can i burn DVD ?? i have a DVD with some data and i want to make some copies of it ):
[09:56] <xanavim> I prefer irssi for irc
[09:56] <phosphor> tom-away: it didnt really work did it?
[09:56] <icecrash> I have a question to cups in daper
[09:56] <zcat[1] > xchat is nice..
[09:56] <icecrash> s/daper/dapper
[09:56] <factotum> hey all, looking for an app to label my mp3 in a more proper fashion with artist and song title in file name, any suggestions? Cant remember what its called, tag editor or something similar?
[09:56] <tom-away> phosphor: not for me. but it was "experimental" so ;)
[09:56] <FariSS> please how can i burn DVD ?? i have a DVD with some data and i want to make some copies of it ):
[09:56] <FariSS> help
[09:56] <FariSS> me
[09:56] <tom-away> FariSS: K3B?
[09:56] <icecrash> anyone who can tell me how to enable printer browsing???
[09:57] <RadiantFire> FariSS: if you have gnome, you can right click on the icon and hit copy CD/DVD
[09:57] <FariSS> tom-away what ? k3b ??
[09:57] <RadiantFire> er 2.14
[09:57] <tom-away> k3b is the CD / DVD burning program i use.
[09:57] <icecrash> I'm feeling stupid not to get it working, in previous releases it was so easy
[09:57] <tom-away> apt-get install k3b ;)
[09:57] <RadiantFire> FariSS: there is also GnomeBaker
[09:57] <ben_60657> speaking of burning DVDs...does linux have anything comparable to DVD Santa?  something that would take an .avi or .mpg and convert to DVD format?
[09:57] <FariSS> tom-away where to get it ?
[09:58] <tom-away> apt-get is your friend ;)
[09:58] <FariSS> tom-away i know , but where ?
[09:58] <xanavim> FariSS: command-line
[09:58] <PlumTree> NoUse, can I have a query with you ;-)?
[09:58] <tom-away> open a terminal in ubuntu
[09:58] <FariSS> i know
[09:58] <xanavim> FariSS: or you could use synaptic
[09:58] <CokeNCode> console is also your friend
[09:58] <FariSS> but complete command
[09:58] <tom-away> type: sudo apt-get install k3b
[09:58] <tom-away> :s
[09:58] <FariSS> apt-get wht after
[09:58] <FariSS> :s
[09:58] <disinterested_pe> i wish i could get volume control from my keyboard
[09:58] <eyequeue> FariSS, sudo apt-get install k3b
[09:58] <NoUse> PlumTree sure
[09:59] <FariSS> ok ill try and tell y guys
[09:59] <FariSS> thanks
[09:59] <g-nome> can i use aptitude-get the same as apt-get (same repos)?
[09:59] <tom-away> aptitude and apt-get use the same repositories yeh
[09:59] <eyequeue> g-nome, minus the get, but yes
[10:00] <g-nome> so only aptidu install APPNAME
[10:00] <g-nome> aptitude
[10:00] <eyequeue> right
[10:00] <wubrgamer> hey guys, how do i change my icons for nautilus ? i hate this bright goldish orange and i want to switch over to something like the standard icons with clearlooks
[10:01] <gnomefreak> wubrgamer: system>prefferences>themes
[10:01] <wubrgamer> i did
[10:01] <wubrgamer> it doesn't change my icons
[10:01] <wubrgamer> i'm using clearlooks ....
[10:01] <wubrgamer> oh
[10:02] <wubrgamer> never mind guys
[10:02] <g-nome> the icons of dapper are so nice :-)
[10:02] <gnomefreak> wubrgamer: under themes click theme details there is a icon section
[10:02] <wubrgamer> no they aren't
[10:02] <wubrgamer> theyu are ugly as anything
[10:02] <wubrgamer> i mean
[10:02] <wubrgamer> shiny
[10:02] <g-nome> yes they are
[10:02] <tom-away> get KDE then ;)
[10:02] <xanavim> I wouldn't know, I can't see any icons  :D
[10:02] <wubrgamer> but very though
[10:02] <wubrgamer> anyway
[10:02] <wubrgamer> i upgraded
[10:02] <tom-away> i like the kde theme more than the gnome one for ubuntu :s
[10:02] <eyequeue> "art" always has differing opinions :)
[10:02] <stef> hoi
[10:02] <wubrgamer> and it messed tieh my themese
[10:02] <wubrgamer> it made a custom theme for me
[10:02] <wubrgamer> no
[10:02] <wubrgamer> this isn't art
[10:02] <tom-away> hoi stef
[10:02] <gnomefreak> i like xfce themes the most ;)
[10:02] <wubrgamer> it's system design
[10:02] <g-nome> xfce rules
[10:02] <stef> is there a sort of MSN MEssenger on Ubuntu?
[10:03] <tom-away> gaim
[10:03] <wubrgamer> and there ARE things that should be followed
[10:03] <wubrgamer> amsn
[10:03] <eyequeue> wubrgamer, actually, i believe the package is named ubuntu-artwork :)
[10:03] <tom-away> or you could install amsn or kopete
[10:03] <Blippe> stef, gaim among others
[10:03] <xanavim> wubrgamer: the fact that you disagree proves that it's art  (:
[10:03] <tom-away> but gaim works nicely for msn
[10:03] <stef> war can i download it?
[10:03] <tom-away> it should be installed already
[10:03] <g-nome> normall i hate dark themes, but the only one i've ever had, and for a long time, was an xfce one
[10:03] <kspath> stef: apt-cache search msn ; apt-cache search chat;apt-cache search irc
[10:03] <kspath> stef: man apt-get
[10:03] <g-nome> plus xfce will be GREAT in version 4.4 with new file manager and finally DESKTOP ICONS (standard)
[10:04] <eyequeue> stef, gaim seems to be popular, but the searches will show you many alternatives
[10:04] <wubrgamer> alright
[10:04] <phosphor> id still recommend gaim
[10:04] <wubrgamer> but still
[10:04] <wubrgamer> it's artistic
[10:04] <tom-away> stef: if you did a default install of Ubuntu GAIM should be installed already.
[10:04] <phosphor> the new beta is very nice :D
[10:04] <wubrgamer> and involves art
[10:04] <thiebo> When is xfce 4.4 ready ?
[10:04] <Hso> question, when mounting windows partitions, i read somewhere it about not being "safe" to write to it.. does that mean it could damage the partition, or it's vunerable to hackers?
[10:04] <petrik> Anyone know a good reference for setting up a LAN between two PC's through a ADSL router?
[10:04] <stef> thanx
[10:04] <wubrgamer> but it's still along the lines of a science
[10:04] <Hso> uh.. vulnerable **
[10:04] <stef> thanx tom-away
[10:04] <stef> trying
[10:05] <eyequeue> Hso, i believe it means that ntfs is proprietary, hence there's no specs released on how to write without trashing it
[10:05] <Hso> can anyone tell me how to block someone from viewing a website in firefox?
[10:05] <wubrgamer> it's not a painting it's my desktop, a painting can be brash and be praised thusly, BUT i stare at my desktop for hours at a time..........it sux
[10:05] <NoUse> PlumTree you there?
[10:05] <wubrgamer> Hso: why ?
[10:05] <eXistenZ> When the final will be released?
[10:05] <Hso> eyequeue, - so... it's in my best interest not to write to it?
[10:05] <kbrosnan> Hso, hosts file
[10:05] <NoUse> eXistenZ June 1
[10:05] <eyequeue> Hso, right
[10:05] <PlumTree> NoUse, yes, I wrote some words at query
[10:05] <eXistenZ> great
[10:05] <PlumTree> sorry telephone.
[10:05] <Hso> wubrgamer,  - 'cos my sister is spending wayyyyy too much time on my pc uploading ugly pictures of her onto her crappy website :P
[10:06] <NoUse> PlumTree I'm not getting them, you might have to register
[10:06] <wubrgamer> no
[10:06] <wubrgamer> haha
[10:06] <Hso> kbrosnan?
[10:06] <wubrgamer> well
[10:06] <holo> hi
[10:06] <NoUse> !tell PlumTree about register
[10:06] <wubrgamer> i suggest setting up a password if it's your computer
[10:06] <wubrgamer> lol
[10:06] <Hso> can't ;(
[10:06] <holo> is there some bug that the /dev/dsp simply disapears?
[10:06] <Hso> it's a livecd, I might add :P
[10:06] <kbrosnan> Hso, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts
[10:07] <holo> the kernel image is 2.6.10 from package
[10:07] <Hso> k
[10:07] <walkover> hey im from denmark. I have a danish keyboard and the danish special characters does not work. I need them to work. Does anyone know how to make them work?
[10:08] <Hso> special danish characters = accents? o.O
[10:08] <PlumTree> ok, one moment
[10:08] <eyequeue> wasn't keymapping one of the first questions on the live/install cd?
[10:09] <walkover> maybe but somehow its all english now
[10:09] <grndslm> disinterested_pe, you still there?
[10:09] <astrisk> can any one tell me how to install a .deb package downloaded on my desktop
[10:10] <NoUse> !deb
[10:10] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[10:10] <Hso> x_X;
[10:10] <Hso> fine.. :P
[10:10] <walkover> dpkg -i <package>
[10:10] <g-nome> a small question: how to have the things i copy (ctrl+c) to STAY in the clipboard when closing the app where it's copied from?
[10:11] <g-nome> in gnome (i know of klipper in KDE)
[10:11] <Hso> no idea.. I normally open the text editor and paste it into there before closing firefox
[10:11] <astrisk> ubotu, its not there in repos...
[10:11] <ubotu> astrisk: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:11] <Hso> astrisk, o.o
[10:12] <xanavim> ubotu: repos
[10:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:12] <Hso> astrisk, open the terminal and go to your desktop, and type "sudo dpkg -i <filename.deb>"
[10:12] <chasmarang> Hi people
[10:12] <Hso> yo
[10:12] <eyequeue> !easysource
[10:12] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:12] <extern> how do I add a script to startup?
[10:12] <Hso> no idea, extern :(
[10:12] <Jowi> walkover: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you should only need to put Option "XkbLayout" "dk" if your "XkbModel" is correct
[10:12] <extern> so it executes a couple of bash commands
[10:13] <eyequeue> man update-rc.d
[10:13] <grndslm> g-nome, did you know that you can copy and paste without using the keyboard?
[10:13] <PlumTree> is there any command to register the nick?
[10:13] <astrisk> Hso, thnx very much ubotu had told earlier b4 u... :)
[10:13] <g-nome> with mousewheel?
[10:13] <eyequeue> !tell PlumTree about register
[10:13] <grndslm> yup, just highlight and then click mousewheel
[10:13] <xanavim> PlumTree: /msg nickserv identify <password>
[10:13] <extern> eyequeue, I studied some .sh files in the init.d folder
[10:13] <PlumTree> i have tried this - /msg nickserv register <password> <email>
[10:13] <grndslm> i rarely use ctrl-c anymore
[10:13] <PlumTree> xanavim, thanks
[10:13] <extern> and they are written in some special language
[10:14] <extern> can my scripts be just pure commands?
[10:14] <g-nome> still it's not more in the clipboard when closing the app where it's copied from....
[10:14] <Hso> astrick - I coulda type it first, but I was lagged :P
[10:14] <Hso> typed**
[10:14] <hithere> hi m8s
[10:14] <eyequeue> man update-rc.d  tells how to get them to execute, and yes, you can write simple scripts there too
[10:14] <Jowi> hithere hithere
[10:14] <extern> k
[10:14] <hithere> for running a windows games (wwp) i need to install it on linux with wine?
[10:14] <disinterested_pe> does anyone know how to get volume working from keyboard?
[10:15] <xanavim> hithere: yes
[10:15] <Hso> hithere, sounds about right
[10:15] <chasmarang> Is Ethereal seeing what's going to my ethernet card or what's going into my computer?
[10:15] <eyequeue> disinterested_pe, this may or may not be your fix, but it worked for me
[10:15] <eXistenZ> where can I ask questions about the ubuntu translations in launchpad
[10:15] <hithere> oh! ok... and if the folder has spaces
[10:15] <hithere> how I do it ?
[10:15] <Hso> no idea, eXistenZ
[10:15] <Spec> chasmarang: ethereal sees all network traffic to and from your nic
[10:15] <Some_Person> Hey
[10:15] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:15] <eyequeue> disinterested_pe, from console, sudo alsamixer, then set things OFF that you don't have, etc
[10:15] <hithere> with just spaces doesn0't work, I had to go to win and leave the spaces
[10:15] <Jowi> disinterested_pe: you can change the sound volume with "alsamixer" if that was what you meant
[10:15] <astrisk> Hso, ya i have to go to desktop or issue the command by simply opening the terminal an at the prompt..
[10:15] <Some_Person> I can't get USPLASH to work with LILO
[10:15] <hithere> program files
[10:15] <Spec> chasmarang: It sets your nic to passive mode i think, and just reads all traffic
[10:15] <PlumTree> ok, my nick is registered now :P
[10:16] <Hso> hithere - have you tried trapping the full dir in " ?
[10:16] <disinterested_pe> ok i'll try it
[10:16] <dblpd> i'm new to linux, can some one help me with a few questions?
[10:16] <hithere> nop xD thks
[10:16] <g-nome> can anyone test if also in ubuntu (gnome, in kde it works) the copy-to-clipboard-even-after-closing-source-app is working?
[10:16] <Hso> dblpd, i'll try :P
[10:16] <g-nome> dapper
[10:16] <Hso> g-nome, how?
[10:16] <hithere> and the last question
[10:16] <chasmarang> Spec: Thank you - are these ip's from italy,china,sweden etc. dangerous to me because I dont have a firewall
[10:16] <hithere> opening a ISO (for installing the game)
[10:16] <eyequeue> eXistenZ, i might try #ubuntu-locoteams
[10:16] <hithere> which program can I use?
[10:16] <Some_Person> Ubuntu is my first Linux ever, and I'm on my first ever install, and I already have a Ubuntu/Windows dualboot!
[10:17] <petiteconne> yeah is working g-nome
[10:17] <instabin1> 6.06 IS BEAUTIFULL
[10:17] <g-nome> Hso: for ex. copy a text from a document/firefox, then close it (completely) and try to paste it anywhere, does it work?
[10:17] <Some_Person> Now, how do I get USPLASH to work with LILO?
[10:17] <petiteconne> g-nome: it works ... since i have upgraded to dapper
[10:17] <Hso> hithere - well, in WindowsXP, I use both DaemonTools and Alcohol120%.. never used Wine, though :P
[10:17] <g-nome> petiteconne: that's FINE, finally
[10:17] <Spec> chasmarang: Depends if you're dealing with servers in italy, china, sweden or not ;)
[10:18] <Hso> g-nome - it normally does with me.. lemme try
[10:18] <Spec> chasmarang: If your system is secured you don't -really- need a firewall
[10:18] <hithere> ya, but not that, how I open a .iso file on linux
[10:18] <g-nome> 'cause in breezy it doesn't
[10:18] <Hso> nope.. the clipboard is blank :(
[10:18] <g-nome> hmm
[10:18] <dblpd> I am having trouble getting a touchscreen to work in ubuntu
[10:18] <instabin1> Hso: you can mount cd images in linux so  you dont need deamon tools
[10:18] <g-nome> petiteconne: are you using KDE?
[10:18] <Hso> I've never used a touchscreen before :(
[10:18] <disinterested_pe> yes grndslm
[10:18] <Hso> instabin1, that's interesting :P
[10:18] <dblpd> hmm...
[10:19] <chasmarang> Spec: Thanks -  I'm runnung Breezy Badger and I don't have anything running except ethereal
[10:19] <dblpd> most of the stuff i'm reading explains hjow to get it to work, ut the monitor wont even boot into gnome
[10:19] <petiteconne> g-nome: ja that was really something what was quite nerve-racking with the clipboard
[10:19] <dblpd> it works fine at the command
[10:19] <hithere> and how I mount a .iso??
[10:19] <dblpd> but it dies when it tries to load
[10:19] <Jowi> hithere: you can mount it normally, for example (adjust to fit your needs) "sudo mount file.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop"
[10:19] <Hso> can't help ya, dblpd  :(
[10:19] <sedrake> Does anyone know about a program, that can edit files on a ftp server, or upload files at the same time as you are saving them?
[10:19] <chasmarang> why would they query me
[10:19] <hithere> oh
[10:19] <hithere> ok :)
[10:19] <disinterested_pe> ive got no idea of how to turn stuff off from sudo alasmixer its open though
[10:20] <g-nome> petiteconne: but do you have kde or not? because HSO says it does NOT work
[10:20] <disinterested_pe> alsa
[10:20] <Hso> jowi - Hmm... is there a way to add "sudo mount *** /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop" to the right click menu, so it does it automatically without needing the terminal?
[10:20] <eyequeue> disinterested_pe, "M" ?
[10:20] <Jowi> disinterested_pe: press "M" to mute/unmute
[10:20] <dblpd> anyone else familliar with getting a monitor to work in gnome?
[10:20] <disinterested_pe> ok
[10:20] <Hso> i'm using Gnome :D
[10:20] <Hso> KDE is too filled with junk for my liking :(
[10:20] <aLPHa_LeaK> exactly
[10:20] <eyequeue> disinterested_pe, mute what is unneeded, uparrow those that need more volume
[10:21] <petiteconne> g-nome: as i understood you, you wanted to know whether int works under gnome? and there it works maybe i misunderstood you
[10:21] <g-nome> ok then, very stranfe tough
[10:21] <g-nome> Hso, do you have dapper installed?
[10:21] <Hso> no, breezy
[10:21] <petiteconne> ja thats the problem :D
[10:21] <g-nome> aaah ok then
[10:21] <Hso> i'm thinking about grabbing the latest version of dapper, though..
[10:21] <Jowi> Hso: probably. a quick google search found this (no idea if it works or not) http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/24/nautilus-script-to-mount-iso-files/
[10:21] <Hso> cheers, jowi :P
[10:22] <g-nome> because in dapper the copy-paste thing is FINALLY FIXED, HSO
[10:22] <dblpd> my other question relates to banshee... is anyone using DAAP in banshee?
[10:22] <kovzany> join #ubuntu+1
[10:22] <Hso> g-nome 0.0 hurrah! :P
[10:22] <Hso> 6months of coding well spent, right :D
[10:22] <petiteconne> i upgraded to dapper 2 weeks ago and there is nothing that i miss in comparisson to breezy
[10:22] <g-nome> right
[10:22] <Hso> kovzany, - try "/j #ubuntu+1#
[10:22] <Hso> uh..
[10:23] <Hso> kovzany, - try "/j #ubuntu+1" **
[10:23] <Hso> so.. at the moment, is dapper better?
[10:23] <disinterested_pe> hummmm when i mute pcm all sound goes off im sure thats normal but the master volume still doesnt work
[10:23] <kspath> Hso: Better than what?
[10:23] <Hso> I don't actually have breezy installed.. i'm using the livecd.. what's the dapper livecd like?
[10:23] <petiteconne> in my opinion it is
[10:23] <Hso> compared to breezy? :P
[10:23] <g-nome> hope so
[10:23] <kspath> Hso: Try it.
[10:23] <Lozzy`> Dunno if any of you guys are involved in the production of Ubuntu, but if so I have to congratulate you on such a fantastic product. Just tried a Live CD and am instantly a convert.
[10:24] <petiteconne> never tried the dapper live cd
[10:24] <disinterested_pe> the volume bar goes up and down but not the sound level
[10:24] <g-nome> Hso: it boots 1000 times faster
[10:24] <Hso> kspath, I will, but I will need to reset and log into windows XP so I can download the dapper iso x_X;
[10:24] <Hso> 1000 times? wow! :P
[10:24] <g-nome> not exactly
[10:24] <g-nome> but 999
[10:24] <Hso> speaking of which, i was reading a website about a command called "runit" being alot faster than "init".. is there any truth to that?
[10:25] <disinterested_pe> any other options?
[10:25] <oden__> hallo all
[10:25] <chaos_of_apocaly> can anyone tell me what prog can i use for ssh2 ?
[10:25] <g-nome> any FreeBSD users here?
[10:25] <petiteconne> g-nome: i cant agree with you :) my boot time is similar to that of breezy ... but that could be the cause of that i simply upgraded with no new installation
[10:25] <Jowi> disinterested_pe: adjust Master _and_ PCM
[10:26] <Hso> g-nome - try in #freebsd :P
[10:26] <Spec> chaos_of_apocaly: openssh-client
[10:26] <jdmpike> how do you get full duplex sound in ubuntu?
[10:26] <disinterested_pe> i did that
[10:26] <dblpd> can anyone recomend a program to recieve DAAP from another machine?
[10:26] <maccam94> hey, i'm in knoppix right now and i'm trying to copy the settings for the ethernet card from the cd to the ubuntu install on the hard drive, anyone got any ideas?
[10:26] <chaos_of_apocaly> yes spec
[10:26] <jdmpike> dblpd: try banshee
[10:26] <disinterested_pe> but i still dont get volume on my keyboard
[10:26] <g-nome> petiteconne: i mean the boot -time of THE LIVE-CD (not the dapper boot time, tough it sohuld ALSO be faster)
[10:26] <oden__> so where are you all from?
[10:26] <dblpd> jdmpike: I am, but it's not seeing my iTunes share
[10:27] <petiteconne> ah ok
[10:27] <g-nome> i just want to know if freebsd is really THAT fast & stable compared to linux/ubuntu
[10:27] <Hso> okay.. I have a question... is it actually possible to run ubuntu(installation or livecd)  via a usb stick?
[10:27] <Jowi> disinterested_pe: volume "on the keyboard"? explain. you have speakers in your keyboard?
[10:27] <dblpd> jdmpike: maybe I'm not configuring it right?
[10:27] <hithere> let's see
[10:27] <hithere> is like this?
[10:27] <hithere> sudo mount /home/feryana/Desktop/worms.iso -t iso9660 -o loop
[10:27] <Spec> Hso: probably
[10:27] <Spec> Hso: I run ubuntu off a usb harddrive
[10:27] <hithere> after appearsa lot of text but I dont find the image loaded
[10:27] <oden__> that only works with isos
[10:27] <igorzolnikov> how can i install opera 9 beta 2 for ubuntu 6.06?
[10:27] <Hso> g-nome, from what I've heard, it's one of the smallest distros of linux going.. but it probably is faster.. but do you want to sacrifise speed for functionality?
[10:27] <g-nome> HSO: really try "damn small linux"
[10:27] <Spec> Hso: Might be hackish to get it to boot off the usb stick
[10:27] <Spec> DSL is awesome
[10:27] <Jowi> hithere: no. you miss the mountpoint
[10:27] <Spec> (damn small linux)
[10:28] <g-nome> it's made especially for that purpose
[10:28] <Hso> I've heard of DSL :P
[10:28] <jdmpike> dblpd: do you have the daap module installed?
[10:28] <Hso> it doesn't have enough features for me :(
[10:28] <disinterested_pe> no, but if i press the volume     +- keys i get a volume bar to go up and down but volume doesnt
[10:28] <hithere> which mountpoint?
[10:28] <funky> hi
[10:28] <hithere> how is the command?
[10:28] <g-nome> i hate fluxbox ahh
[10:28] <Spec> Hso: I suppose the only way to find out is to try it ;)
[10:28] <Hso> o.O? how? :P
[10:28] <dblpd> jdmpike: I think? i'm not sure. this is all nbew to me. how would I have done that?
[10:29] <g-nome> and dsl has the 2.14.xx kernel
[10:29] <Spec> boot off an install iso, point to the usb stick as your harddrive?
[10:29] <xanavim> g-nome: fluxbox?
[10:29] <Spec> g-nome: I'm sure you mean 2.4.xx
[10:29] <Jowi> hithere: sudo mount filename.iso /media/mymountpoint/ -t iso9660 -o loop
[10:29] <g-nome> yeapp
[10:29] <Krpano> im about to buy me a TV card...which one is the most compatible with Ubuntu ?
[10:29] <kbrooks> I need to get data from my other Linux partition. How do I mount it? I don't see it in Places
[10:29] <Spec> !hardware
[10:29] <ubotu> [hardware]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:29] <Hso> I ask this because, my bro has a crap(and I mean CRAP) laptop, it's a pent3 750mhz with 64megs of ram(I think)... he said he wants to try out linux, but the cd drive is fucked... it doesn't open x_X;
[10:29] <xanavim> anyone know a command-line command to make a machine sleep?
[10:29] <eXistenZ> what does LTS stand for
[10:29] <Ng> Krpano: hauppauge are generally a good bet
[10:29] <Spec> Kr0ntab: ^^
[10:29] <Ng> eXistenZ: long term support
[10:29] <hithere> but I dont understant what is mymountpoint?
[10:29] <jdmpike> dblpd: try to apt-get install banshee-daap
[10:29] <Krpano> thx....
[10:29] <hithere> how I find that?
[10:29] <Hso> spec - I don't actually have a usb stick, yet :P
[10:30] <Spec> Hso: You could boot off the network and install to the harddrive that way
[10:30] <Spec> !network install
[10:30] <oden__> ALT+F4 to view new messages
[10:30] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Spec
[10:30] <eyequeue> sleep (1)            - delay for a specified amount of time
[10:30] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: long term support
[10:30] <jdmpike> dblpd: it may only be in the dapper repos though...
[10:30] <Hso> spec - his ethernet adapter doesn't work lol
[10:30] <g-nome> Hso: you can even run DSL from the USB-stick in a Windows machine (emulation)!
[10:30] <petiteconne> Hso: just buy an ide2usb adapter and install an normal cdrom drive
[10:30] <xanavim> eyequeue: no, not delay.. .I want the machine to go into suspend mode
[10:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Spec -about netinstall
[10:30] <g-nome> but  it's terribly slow then
[10:30] <maccam94> anybody? in ubuntu it tries to load the tulip driver for the ethernet card, which doesn't work, but  on the knoppix cd it just loads the dmfe driver. when i try to have ubuntu just use the dmfe driver it loads the tulip driver as well
[10:30] <dblpd> jdmpike: "E: Couldn't find package banshee-daap
[10:30] <dblpd> "
[10:30] <Hso> my bro's laptop currently runs WinXP.. it's snailspeed -.-
[10:31] <Spec> Hso: so no network or cdrom?
[10:31] <Jowi> hithere: you create the mountpoint first of all. a mountpoint is a directory where your iso will be mounted. for example "sudo mkdir /media/iso" creates a directory for your iso (you can name it whatever you want)
[10:31] <g-nome> Hso: try xubuntu ;-)
[10:31] <Hso> spec - correct.. tricky lol
[10:31] <gnomefreak> dblpd: you need tio enable universe and multiverse
[10:31] <eyequeue> hibernate (8)        - save your computer's state to disk, and then switch it off
[10:31] <hithere> ohh, just a folder
[10:31] <Sp4rKy_> hi
[10:31] <maccam94> :-(
[10:31] <hithere> thks pal
[10:31] <Hso> xubuntu? I thought the rumour of it being faster than ubuntu was not proven?
[10:32] <dblpd> gnomefreak: you just uncomment them in the sources.list file right?
[10:32] <l> can someone tell me why i am getting this erro? l@irregularity:/etc/init.d$ cd /var/log/mpd
[10:32] <l> bash: cd: /var/log/mpd: Permission denied
[10:32] <disinterested_pe> i guess what im asking is there any way to get master volume to override pcm volume
[10:32] <Spec> Hso: I dunno, I suppose you should search the forums about installing on a usb stick
[10:32] <gnomefreak> Spec: go to library or somewhere with net access download the iso and burn it?
[10:32] <titan> I am trying to mod the permissions on an entire folder. If the name of the folder has spaces in it and I want to give the folder name, should it be "docs extra", a 755 permission set, how would I do that? I got the chmod 775, but the filename standard I am not sure of.
[10:32] <Sp4rKy_> please why must i use a 4 digits value for umask (ie umask=0222) and not only a 3digits value ?
[10:32] <apokryphos> Hso: xubuntu uses xfce, which is a lot more lightweight than gnome, really/
[10:32] <Sp4rKy_> what's the first digits ?
[10:32] <g-nome> Hso; xfce desktop loading time is (for me) 3 seconds
[10:32] <oden__> Press ALT+F4 to check your messages. You now have (1) message
[10:32] <Spec> gnomefreak: not me, Hso has no cdrom or network card on a laptop and he wants to install
[10:32] <gnomefreak> dblpd: for universe yes than add the word multiverse to the end  the lines that have multiverse already are backports they are not the same
[10:32] <xanavim> eyequeue: wow, thanks!
[10:32] <s00ty> In a network with linux and windows machines, is it better to create shared file-storing partitions  in ext3 or ntfs?
[10:32] <gnomefreak> Spec: i just saw that sorry
[10:32] <maccam94> fat32
[10:33] <eyequeue> titan, chmod 755 "docs extra"   or docs \ extra
[10:33] <maccam94> to s00ty, fat32
[10:33] <eyequeue> xanavim, np
[10:33] <titan> Thanks eyequeue
[10:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Hso -about xubuntu
[10:33] <eyequeue> titan, np
[10:33] <dblpd> gnomefreak: can you explain this better for me?
[10:33] <Hso> bloody PMs ;P
[10:33] <s00ty> maccam94, why do you prefer fat32?
[10:33] <Spec> s00ty: in linux you can read/write to ntfs via captive-ntfs
[10:33] <maccam94> s00ty: because linux can't write to ntfs
[10:33] <Spec> ...
[10:33] <Spec> yes you can
[10:33] <Jowi> Spec: here you will find different installation methods: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[10:33] <blynch> Sp4rKy: the first digit is always a zero and is meant to tell 'I'm an octal number',
[10:33] <Spec> i do all the time
[10:34] <Spec> Jowi: not me, Hso ^^
[10:34] <maccam94> Spec: captive is emulation, and it doesn't always work so well
[10:34] <Jowi> Hso: here you will find different installation methods: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[10:34] <maccam94> i haven't been able to get it to work at least
[10:34] <Spec> works well for me, i'd rather use that than fat32 ;)
[10:34] <Jowi> sorry Spec
[10:34] <habenix>  is there any tool, that lets me resize LVM volumes and the file systems on them in one step?
[10:34] <maccam94> especially on amd64
[10:34] <gnomefreak> dblpd: open up your sources.list by typing gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:34] <Hso> cheers :P
[10:34] <titan> eyequeue, I did that but it only changed the top folder permissions, not the ones under it. How do I get it to do it to all of them
[10:34] <l> can someone tell me why i am getting this erro? l@irregularity:/etc/init.d$ cd /var/log/mpd
[10:34] <l> bash: cd: /var/log/mpd: Permission denied
[10:34] <kbrooks> how do I mount /dev/hda2?
[10:34] <Spec> Hso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:34] <gnomefreak> l: sudo
[10:35] <s00ty> maccam94, Spec, I guess I'm asking is the support for ntfs by linux (i.e. captive-ntfs) better than support for ext3 (ext3 drivers) by winxp?
[10:35] <eyequeue> titan, man chmod :)    chmod -R 755 etc
[10:35] <dblpd> gnomefreak: okay?
[10:35] <Spec> s00ty: I think they're comprable -- you should use both, right?
[10:35] <hithere> I guess that I did all ok but
[10:35] <hithere> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[10:35] <hithere>        missing codepage or other error
[10:35] <hithere>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[10:35] <hithere>        dmesg | tail  or so
[10:35] <Agrajag> I don't think there is an ext3 driver for windows
[10:35] <Agrajag> There's ext2 but you can only read ext3 with an ext2 driver
[10:35] <gnomefreak> dblpd: ok now make sure the very first line that looks like deb cdrom has a # infront of it (if dapper there are 2)
[10:36] <Agrajag> If you try to write to an ext3 volume as though it were ext2 you're going to break it
[10:36] <Spec> s00ty: If you really wanted to you could make a fat32/vfat partition
[10:36] <Jowi> hithere: sudo modprobe loop
[10:36] <Spec> Agrajag: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[10:36] <gnomefreak> hithere: please use pastebin to paste
[10:36] <Spec> and s00ty ^^
[10:36] <dblpd> gnomefreak: i'm using breezy
[10:36] <Agrajag> Spec: that;s not a driver
[10:36] <gnomefreak> dblpd: let me know when your ready
[10:36] <hithere> oh sorry
[10:36] <hithere> how I use that?
[10:36] <gnomefreak> dblpd: ok than there is only one
[10:36] <Spec> no, it's not, but it provides read/write access to a ext3 partition from windows ....
[10:36] <Agrajag> There's ext2fsd or something which allows windows to mount an ext2 partition
[10:36] <eyequeue> !pastebin
[10:36] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[10:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell hithere about pastebin
[10:36] <Jowi> hithere: just type it in and then try again
[10:37] <titan> eyequeue, ya that worked, did not remember the -R. Ya I keep looking at that man but I never can understand them, it might else well be written in french.
[10:37] <setite> hey all... im having trouble working my onboard wifi
[10:37] <hithere> yep I've typed sudo modprobe loop
[10:37] <xanavim> king of ironic how the pastebin message floods the channel to a slight degree
[10:37] <titan> eyequeue, thanks for your help.
[10:37] <hithere> and then the command of before
[10:37] <eyequeue> titan, they get easier with practice :)
[10:37] <setite> on an emachine lappy... and i seem to have forgotten how to enable eth0 too
[10:37] <hithere> but I receive the same message
[10:37] <xanavim> s/king/kind
[10:37] <gnomefreak> dblpd: now if you look down you will see some that say deb http:// uubntu.archive.com/breezy-backports ....
[10:37] <dblpd> gnomefreak: ok got it. now what?
[10:37] <Agrajag> Spec: writing also? last I tried it only supported reading
[10:37] <Spec> xanavim: i was just contemplating that
[10:37] <gnomefreak> or something like that dblpd
[10:37] <titan> eyequeue, I am sure they do =P Thanks.
[10:37] <dblpd> gnomefreak: yeah
[10:37] <Spec> actually, yeah, that sucks
[10:38] <gnomefreak> dblpd: take the # away from those
[10:38] <eyequeue> setite, it may be as simple as sudo ifup eth0
[10:38] <Spec> Agrajag: it is only read, why can't it write?
[10:38] <dblpd> gnomefreak: ok
[10:38] <rizuntu> I  upgraded to dapper and now get "/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed", where do I get /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp from?  I don't have it on my box.
[10:38] <gnomefreak> dblpd: now look further down the next few lines they will end with word universe
[10:38] <dblpd> gnomefreak: ok?
[10:38] <igorzolnikov> how can i install opera 9 beta 2 for ubuntu 6.06?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> rizuntu: #ubuntu+1 for dapper please
[10:38] <Agrajag> Spec: because it can't, it's not designed to. There's a similar tool for reiserfs that also is read-only
[10:38] <gnomefreak> dblpd: take the # away from those
[10:38] <s00ty> How do I install a single font that I downloaded in ubunty 5.10?
[10:38] <dblpd> gnomefreak: ok
[10:38] <Jowi> hithere: what does "file myfile.iso" give you?
[10:39] <Spec> I'd think it would be easy to implement read/write access to open-source filesystems
[10:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell igorzolnikov about opera
[10:39] <s00ty> say fontA.ttf
[10:39] <rizuntu> gnomefreak, thanks
[10:39] <eyequeue> s00ty, cp to /usr/local/share/fonts/
[10:39] <s00ty> thanks
[10:39] <gnomefreak> dblpd: now after the word universe on those lines put a space than type the word multiverse
[10:39] <gnomefreak> rizuntu: yw
[10:39] <hithere> what you mean?
[10:39] <dblpd> gnomefreak: on both?
[10:39] <gnomefreak> igorzolnikov: on the snapshot link in your pm you wuill see opera for dapper
[10:39] <gnomefreak> dblpd: yes
[10:39] <hithere> i wrote down the comand that you gave me
[10:40] <hithere> and then sudo mount worms.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop
[10:40] <hithere> but still the same problem
[10:40] <gnomefreak> dblpd: there are more towards the bottom
[10:40] <Jowi> hithere: yes, but what does "file worms.iso" give you?
[10:40] <gnomefreak> dblpd: take away the rest of the # that you find working down and add the word multiverse just like you did with the last one
[10:40] <setite> eyequeue thanks ill try... i left linux for windows a year ago and have totally forgotten everything sadly... time to relearn
[10:40] <dblpd> gnomefreak: ok, i think i got them all... 3? should I be erasung the word universe?
[10:40] <hithere> is a virtual CD, a game
[10:41] <Anusien> 4
[10:41] <s00ty> How do I open bin/cue files in ubunty
[10:41] <gnomefreak> dblpd: no leave the word universe
[10:41] <hithere> i an unmounted cd
[10:41] <Anusien> err
[10:41] <eyequeue> setite, i'm presuming /etc/network/interfaces is correct
[10:41] <disinterested_pe> anyone know what the keyboard equivalent is for a belkin f8f820 is?
[10:41] <gnomefreak> dblpd: it should look like deb http://......... universe multiverse
[10:41] <xanavim> s00ty: some .bin files can be executed, it depends
[10:41] <Jowi> hithere: I know what worms is. type "file worms.iso" and see if the filetype is really iso9660
[10:41] <disinterested_pe> f8e820
[10:41] <dblpd> gnomefreak: ok. done
[10:41] <hithere> oh sorry hahaha
[10:41] <gnomefreak> make sure the # are taken away from all but the cdrom one at the top
[10:42] <s00ty> xanavim, I want to open it like a cd0image
[10:42] <gnomefreak> dblpd: save and close it
[10:42] <dblpd> gjnomefreak: ok
[10:42] <Jowi> hithere: the Amiga days never left me :)
[10:42] <dblpd> ok saved
[10:42] <gnomefreak> dblpd: now open terminal and type sudo apt-get update
[10:42] <mad_phoenix> has anybody else been having strange mouse problems since the last kernel update in dapper?
[10:42] <gnomefreak> dblpd: let me know of any errors
[10:42] <xanavim> mad_phoenix: not I
[10:43] <gnomefreak> mad_phoenix: #ubuntu+1 for dapper please
[10:43] <sparkling> hi all
[10:43] <hithere> data
[10:43] <paddygman_> lo all
[10:43] <hithere> just appeared that
[10:43] <paddygman_> any one any ideas about azureus and buntu
[10:43] <paddygman_> ubuntu
[10:43] <Jowi> hithere: it should say something like "ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data" but your only say "data"?
[10:44] <hithere> feryana@Haplo:~/Desktop$ file worms.iso
[10:44] <hithere> worms.iso: data
[10:44] <sparkling> anyone has experience with usb irda receiver and ubu 5.10 + lirc?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> paddygman_: what about it
[10:44] <hithere> yep, is just that
[10:44] <jimcooncat> please, need way of finding which folders are hogging disk space
[10:44] <Pip> I need help
[10:44] <Jowi> hithere: i think that worms.iso file is corrupted
[10:44] <xanavim> jimcooncat: man du
[10:44] <phosphor> Pip:whats up?
[10:44] <disinterested_pe> is there anyway to get into yahoo rooms through kopete?
[10:44] <dblpd> gnomefreak: ok, it's done
[10:44] <kspath> jimcooncat: man du
[10:44] <Pip> How to add some exports to /etc/profile as ?
[10:44] <hithere> well.. was a nrg before, but for running i changed into .iso and with shitdows worked haha
[10:45] <xanavim> jimcooncat: du -bsc folder will show you the total bytes a folder takes
[10:45] <gnomefreak> dblpd: any errors?
[10:45] <Pip> phosphor, How to add some exports to /etc/profile as ?
[10:45] <dblpd> gnomefreak: nope
[10:45] <hithere> then there is no way to open it?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> dblpd: install your package now
[10:45] <gnomefreak> dblpd: if you like you can run apt-cache search banshee and see if it lists it
[10:46] <dblpd> gnomefreak: "E: Couldn't find package banshee-daap
[10:46] <dblpd> "
[10:46] <Jowi> hithere: maybe the convert failed. if you still have that nrg file you could try to remake an iso from it. otherwise i can't think of anything else
[10:46] <gnomefreak> dblpd: hold on a sec
[10:46] <hithere> ok
[10:46] <paddygman> wait i'm still here
[10:46] <setite> did ubuntu ever make an official guide that went over quick ways to do all those things like installing mp3, limewire, and all that.. like the unofficial
[10:46] <dblpd> gnomefreak: sure thing
[10:46] <hithere> thks again man
[10:46] <hithere> :)
[10:47] <paddygman> gnomefreak i've installed azureus and the plugin to allow access across the web which worked last night till i altered the settings
[10:47] <xanavim> setite: yes, wiki pages
[10:47] <xanavim> ubotu: mp3
[10:47] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:47] <yoink23> clear
[10:47] <paddygman> gnomefreak now it just displays a blank page even after uninstallin it etc
[10:47] <xanavim> for example  ^^
[10:47] <setite> nah thats not what i mean... ill look for the unofficial
[10:47] <gnomefreak> paddygman: not sure
[10:48] <paddygman> me neither
[10:48] <xanavim> setite: the unofficial is *bad* and dangerous
[10:48] <paddygman> gnomefreak what command u usin to get the specific message to me in read
[10:48] <setite> k
[10:48] <paddygman> red
[10:48] <gnomefreak> paddygman: your name
[10:49] <eyequeue> !ubuntuguide
[10:49] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[10:49] <paddygman> gnomefreak so this appears in red to u
[10:49] <kbrooks> Why can't I mount my Fedora / partition?
[10:49] <paddygman> gnomefreak: so this appears in red to u
[10:49] <gnomefreak> dblpd: i think thats a dapper only package i dont think they backported it to breezy
[10:49] <gnomefreak> yellow to me paddygman but thats because of my chat client
[10:49] <kbrooks> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Wi826j31.html
[10:50] <dblpd> gnomefreak: so what are my options for getting DAAP to work in ubuntu?
[10:50] <paddygman> gnomefreak k any ideas wher to look for help on that one or am i best goin to an azureus irc
[10:50] <gnomefreak> hold that thought
[10:50] <gnomefreak> #java?
[10:51] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: java only
[10:51] <kbrooks> paddygman: #azureus
[10:51] <paddygman> kewl
[10:51] <ubuntu> !sources
[10:51] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:51] <gnomefreak> dblpd: either upgrade (fairly safe) or compile it i would go for upgrade
[10:51] <paddygman> kbrooks thanks
[10:51] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: huh?
[10:51] <dblpd> gnomrfreak: how do I upgrade?
[10:51] <gnomefreak> oh i didnt know there was a channel named that
[10:51] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: #java is for java programming only
[10:52] <gnomefreak> dblpd: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[10:52] <skippy81> can someone explain what i can do if a program requires a shared library, that i know is installed, but the program isnt finding it please?
[10:52] <Agrajag> skippy81: try running ldconfig?
[10:52] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: im thinking his problem was more of a java issue than azuerus
[10:52] <xanavim> skippy81: it needs to be in one of your search paths
[10:53] <skippy81> ok how can i adjust those?
[10:53] <skippy81> i just ran ldconfig as sudo and it hasnt helped
[10:53] <dblpd> gnomefreak: "failed to run update manager as user root"
[10:53] <skippy81> program says it cant find the library but it is not polite enough to say where it was expecign to find it :(
[10:53] <setite> !ubuntuguide
[10:53] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[10:54] <gnomefreak> dblpd: what does your prompt look like?
[10:54] <dblpd> ?
[10:54] <eyequeue> #     $     ?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> dblpd: does your terminal have a $ or a #?
[10:54] <skippy81> xanavim:  how do i adjust search paths please?
[10:54] <xanavim> skippy81: if the library is installed properly it will find it  :(
[10:54] <dblpd> gnomefreak: a $
[10:54] <gnomefreak> dblpd: ok type it just as i do
[10:54] <Crescendo> Oi!  I messed around with CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+F* buttons, now my screen is on the wrong resolution, and my mouse won't work... I think it has something to do with a fullscreen game?
[10:55] <dblpd> gomefreak: ok?
[10:55] <Shib12> What program is similar to DVD Shrink but for linux?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> dblpd: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[10:55] <sexcopter8000m> hi, can anyone give me a one-liner to remove any spaces in the filenames of all the files in a folder?
[10:55] <walkover> does anyone know how to change the keymap?
[10:55] <zcat[1] > Shib12: k9copy
[10:55] <Crescendo> How to go back to default screen?
[10:55] <sparkling> i've an usb irda receiver that is supported from ubu 5.10, when i connect it to pc ubuntu find it and install as /dev/ttyUSB0, after that i've installed lirc and i'ce configured the device as usb default, and as device i setted /dev/ttyUSB0 but when i use mode2 to try irda receiver it tell me "error opening /dev/lirc, no such file or dir"...do you know why? in hardware.conf i didn't set /dev/lirc but the other...
[10:55] <Seantater> Crescendo: try pressing CTRL-ALT-F7
[10:55] <zcat[1] > similar but not quite the same features unfortunately..
[10:55] <Crescendo> Nothing.
[10:56] <gnomefreak> dblpd: did it run that time?
[10:56] <Seantater> Crescendo: try pressing shift too
[10:56] <Shib12> zcat[1] : Thnx!
[10:56] <crane> Crescendo, what game were you running
[10:56] <Crescendo> Nothing.  I think I'm already on that desktop?
[10:56] <dblpd> gnomefreak: command not found
[10:56] <Crescendo> Spacefox, or something?
[10:56] <walkover> does anyone know how to change the keymap? anyone?
[10:56] <Crescendo> Hrm, what's the hotkey to switch workspaces?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> dblpd: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:56] <gnomefreak> dblpd: run that command as typed
[10:57] <crane> Alt F7 should be the normal desktop. is nothing there
[10:57] <Seantater> Crescendo: okay -- press CTRL-ALT-F1 and then type pidof scefox
[10:57] <Seantater> Crescendo: orry -- not that -- but you got the idea
[10:57] <elyxi> is it tommorow the new ubuntu will be rlsed?
[10:57] <eyequeue> elyxi, no june
[10:57] <gnomefreak> dblpd: let me know when its done please
[10:57] <dblpd> gnomefreak: i ran both of them
[10:58] <crane> To change work space is ctrl-alt-(arrow keys)
[10:58] <Noah0504> Does anyone know of software similar to SAM Broadcaster for Linux?  It doesn't have to be as complete, just something that will let me easily stream music.
[10:58] <kspath> !tell elyxi about dapper
[10:58] <gnomefreak> dblpd: ok lets do this old fashtion way
[10:58] <dblpd> gnomefreak: ok
[10:58] <Crescendo> It didn't return anything?
[10:58] <Agrajag> Noah0504: I use isecast2 for streaming
[10:58] <Linuturk_NB> i've got 6.06 installed as a server, and I need a gui. I need to tell the system to pull apt-get from online instead of the cd rom. how do I do this?
[10:58] <Agrajag> I don't know what SAM broadcaster is so I don't know how it compares
[10:58] <Jowi> walkover: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, put this in Section Inputdevice: Option          "XkbLayout"     "dk"
[10:59] <gnomefreak> dblpd: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sopurces.list" change all breezy's tp dapper save adn close dont worrry about the cdrom line you can delete that line if you like
[10:59] <Crescendo> I can't scroll up to read anything since "elyxi, no june"
[10:59] <skippy81> i dont suppose anyone here has got the game "Chaos Strikes Back" or "Dungeon Master" running in linux? :)
[10:59] <crane> Crescendo, is there anyway you can restart the game then exit properly?
[10:59] <Agrajag> Noah0504: er, that's icecast2
[10:59] <crane> sometimes this fixes the issue
[10:59] <Jowi> walkover: that *should* fix it. i don't have a danish keyboard to test with :)
[10:59] <eyequeue> Linuturk_NB, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:59] <Crescendo> No, I can't move the mouse... I think it grabbed the mouse and resolution.
[10:59] <eyequeue> Linuturk_NB, then change as the bot says, then sudo apt-get update
[11:00] <walkover> hmm thats how it looks already
[11:00] <Linuturk_NB> eyequeue, I don't have a gui
[11:00] <eyequeue> !tell Linuturk_NB about sources
[11:00] <Linuturk_NB> what is the built in editor?
[11:00] <Noah0504> Agrajag: Isn't that just the server though?  I'm trying to find some easy software that will let me stream to the server?  How do you create the stream?
[11:00] <Linuturk_NB> in terminal?
[11:00] <Crescendo> I think I'll just restart.
[11:00] <kspath> Linuturk_NB: nano? nvi?
[11:00] <crane> ctrl - backspace
[11:00] <eyequeue> Linuturk_NB, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list (or editor of choice) in that case
[11:00] <kspath> Linuturk_NB: vi?
[11:00] <Agrajag> Noah0504: for that I use a SVN build of GNU musicpd
[11:00] <crane> will restart X
[11:00] <walkover> suddenly the font i use for everything bacame tiny so i can barely read this
[11:01] <Blissex> walkover: thanks for letting us know :-)
[11:01] <Agrajag> Noah0504: I don't know if the version in dapper supports icecast streaming or not but I had to build my own for it to work in breezy
[11:01] <crane> ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:01] <Noah0504> Agrajag: Thanks :)
[11:02] <Blissex> walkover: or you could something about it, like ensuring that the screen DPI is realistic and the font selected is for the right DPI too.
[11:02] <brandon> *sigh* what's the deal with azureus? the one in the repos seems to be wacky
[11:03] <rabeldable> anyone know what to do when you loose your mouse after the system has been on for a few hours?
[11:03] <gord> brandon,  the one in the repo's isn't great, if you download the one from the website it will work fine though
[11:03] <igorzolnikov> what is broken package?
[11:03] <brandon> gord: yeah, huh?
[11:03] <setite> im trying to figure out how to enable ethernet.. i didnt do it during install... when i enable administrator mode nothing happens.. and i get an error typing sudo ifup eth0
[11:03] <gord> just download it and run :) plus it will work nice with updates too
[11:03] <setite> im looking in the wiki but for some reason i cant find it
[11:04] <dblpd> gnomefreak: ok, it looks like all of the breezy has been changed to dapper
[11:04] <octan_> hi all.. does anyone know of an equlizer for alsa? it must be cli tho..
[11:04] <eyequeue> setite, sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces (man 5 interfaces)
[11:04] <nickrud> igorzolnikov, a package that is in a bad state. It can be caused by several things
[11:04] <CokeNCode> off to network+ class
[11:04] <setite> k
[11:04] <CokeNCode> have a good evening folks
[11:04] <octan_> i really need an equlizer
[11:04] <gymsmoke> ready for dapper ?
[11:04] <igorzolnikov> what must i do?
[11:05] <caissa> On what progran I can turn regular cd to mp3
[11:05] <igorzolnikov> what i must do?
[11:05] <caissa> *program
[11:05] <nickrud> igorzolnikov, run the command that told you about the broken package, and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ . People will look at it and advise
[11:05] <Spec> caissa: lame and something to rip the cd
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[11:05] <crane> GHrip
[11:05] <crane> sorry grip
[11:05] <kspath> caissa: apt-cache search mp3
[11:06] <dblpd> gnomefreak: just run upgrade and update now?
[11:06] <RadiantFire> caissa: you can do it with sound juicer
[11:06] <igorzolnikov> what command?
[11:06] <RadiantFire> just takes little trickery
[11:06] <nickrud> igorzolnikov, how did you find out you had a broken package?
[11:06] <gnomefreak> dblpd: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:06] <nighty> huhu
[11:06] <gnomefreak> dblpd: the && signs allow you to run both at once
[11:06] <igorzolnikov> Software properties
[11:07] <gnomefreak> (with one command)
[11:07] <Spec> gnomefreak: are you sure?
[11:07] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: no.
[11:07] <kbrooks> spec: he's wrong
[11:07] <kbrooks> spec: ; does that.
[11:07] <Spec> gnomefreak: I thought it was run prog1, and if it didn't fail run prog 2, if it does fail, don't run prog2
[11:07] <dblpd> :gnomefreak: ok. running
[11:07] <nickrud> igorzolnikov, did you just change your repositories?
[11:07] <kbrooks> spec: it does that.
[11:07] <Otacon22> how can i open Apllucations menu without mouse?
[11:07] <nighty> irgendwelche deutschen hier?  brauche hilfe (me linux noob :|) query plz :o)
[11:08] <Spec> !german
[11:08] <ubotu> german is, like, #debian.de - deutschsprachige Debian-Hilfe gibt es in #debian.de
[11:08] <igorzolnikov> yes, i added opera repository unstable
[11:08] <nickrud> Otacon22, alt-f1
[11:08] <Otacon22> tnx
[11:08] <kspath> !tell nighty about de
[11:08] <eyequeue> foo && bar ;     foo, then if and only if foo succceeds, bar
[11:08] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: what?
[11:08] <nickrud> igorzolnikov, remove that repository, and see if the error goes away
[11:08] <Spec> yeap
[11:08] <Linuturk_NB> ok, my last question. I did an OEM install on a machine, and it told me a command to make the machine ready for the end user. I don't remember what the command is. Does anyone know?
[11:08] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: see what eyequeue said.
[11:08] <igorzolnikov> what command?
[11:09] <dblpd> gnomefreak: ok. it ran
[11:09] <nickrud> igorzolnikov, software properties and disable opera repo
[11:09] <dblpd> gnomefreak: it is installing like 2gig of stuff now
[11:09] <igorzolnikov> i did it
[11:09] <gnomefreak> yes that i knew but if one works it will run the other
[11:09] <gnomefreak> dblpd: good ;)
[11:10] <Linuturk_NB> !oem
[11:10] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Linuturk_NB
[11:10] <Noah0504> If I boot from a Live CD, would I be able to write to my NTFS HDD?
[11:10] <hithere> hi again
[11:10] <hithere> i'm going to install the game
[11:10] <sly> bonsoir
[11:10] <eyequeue> foo ; bar       foo, then bar, no matter what, heh
[11:10] <hithere> but I have a windows path for installing
[11:10] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: seeing as we just ran update there shouldnt have been an issue
[11:10] <hithere> i leave it
[11:10] <hithere> or I change it?
[11:10] <nickrud> igorzolnikov, did the broken package go away?
[11:10] <Spec> eyequeue: how do you do prog1, if and only if prog1 fails, prog2:   foo !&& bar ?
[11:11] <eyequeue> Spec, interesting idea ... tell me if it works
[11:11] <Spec> or is that ||?
[11:11] <igorzolnikov> yes
[11:11] <nickrud> igorzolnikov, ok.
[11:11] <eyequeue> Spec, i'd say !(foo) && bar, perhaps
[11:11] <Abo> is there a linice package for ubuntu? or should I get the binaries straight from www.linice.devic.us ?
[11:11] <Spec> how do i make prog1 fail?
[11:12] <Spec> return 0 ?
[11:12] <Spec> I think it's: prog1 || prog 2
[11:12] <eyequeue> Spec, foo || bar    will give you bar upon foo failure, but not otherwise, nod
[11:12] <Spec> so that covers && and || :)
[11:12] <mad_phoenix> i think my hard drive may be dying, i keep having crashes with buffer errors on hda..can anybody recommend real quick a good combination of fsck options?
[11:13] <mnvl> return 0 is success, any other value is failure
[11:13] <petrik> How can you network a ubuntu and kubuntu machine?
[11:13] <hithere> I'm traing to install a windows program with wine
[11:13] <eyequeue> Spec, do we have any other needs? :)
[11:13] <hithere> but when It's going to start... it terminate by a error
[11:13] <nickrud> igorzolnikov, I don't use opera so I don't know what the real problem is
[11:13] <Spec> eyequeue: weird
[11:13] <kspath> !tell hithere about wine
[11:13] <Spec> eyequeue: !./prog1 does something :p
[11:13] <eyequeue> petrik, simplest, stick a hunk of cat5 between them
[11:14] <Spec> eyequeue: I don't know what it does, but it does something :p
[11:14] <hithere> ty
[11:14] <brandon> gord: this one works just like the one in the repos
[11:14] <eyequeue> Spec, i'm *thikning* it probably runs foo then negates the truth of the return code ??
[11:14] <Spec> it's the history expansion character
[11:14] <hithere> no that I have wine alredy
[11:14] <petrik> eyequeue, It's going through a ADSL router. Not sure what settings I need to enter where
[11:14] <hithere> i want to install a windows program
[11:14] <gord> do you meen the fact that those weird pop-up's won't go away brandon ?
[11:14] <eyequeue> Spec, oh yeah
[11:14] <hithere> wine mypath/setup.exe
[11:15] <brandon> the only thing that starts is a message saying that azureus didn't shut down properly
[11:15] <kspath> hithere:  /join #winehq
[11:15] <eyequeue> petrik, okay, that's more complex
[11:15] <Spec> eyequeue: bah, i guess we can't do logic with programs :p
[11:15] <hithere> tks
[11:15] <eyequeue> petrik, set up eth0 to point to an interface that the router sees, on each
[11:15] <brandon> gord: not only will the popups not go away without assassinating the program, but the program isn't anywhere to be found
[11:16] <eyequeue> petrik, 192.168.0.2 and 192.168.0.3, for example
[11:16] <gord> brandon, azureus will only work with the java distrabuted by sun. it won't work with the free java you get with ubuntu
[11:16] <brandon> well, that's nice to know
[11:16] <eyequeue> Spec, someone beat us to it and added these things called "features" to shells and all, heh
[11:17] <eyequeue> petrik, did i confuse you with that?
[11:17] <delta> brandon, by any hazard, are you the Brandon I know? :)
[11:18] <petrik> eyequeue, yeah. That would mean I would kill DHCP right?
[11:18] <brandon> no
[11:18] <delta> brandon, sorry then :)
[11:18] <brandon> i'm actually mark hamill's hair-double
[11:18] <eyequeue> petrik, no, i wa setting things manually, dhcp is very much an option, and is even simpler
[11:18] <delta> brandon, sorry, I don't know you then.
[11:18] <brandon> you believe that?
[11:18] <crane> Wow a celeb
[11:19] <crane> kinda
[11:19] <eyequeue> petrik, in /etc/network/interfaces, two lines
[11:19] <eyequeue> petrik, auto eth0
[11:19] <capgadget> Hamill probably needs several doubles after that carwreck a few 20 or so years ago.
[11:19] <eyequeue> petrik, iface eth0 inet dhcp
[11:20] <eyequeue> petrik, on each machine (the dhcpd on the router will take care of them being unique)
[11:21] <l> is there an equivelant to the mail command available in ubuntu?
[11:21] <drew989> hello
[11:21] <eyequeue> mail (1)             - send and receive mail
[11:21] <eyequeue> Mail (1)             - send and receive mail
[11:21] <skippy81> can someone tell me what i have to do to resolve this: "libHermes.so.1: cannot open shared object file" - libHermes.so.1 is sitting on my disk in the /lib/ directory
[11:21] <l> E: Couldn't find package mail
[11:21] <SurfnKid> whats a good WMV player?
[11:21] <eyequeue> l: install most any mta and you'll have it
[11:22] <SurfnKid> Mplayer?
[11:22] <l> eyequeue: what is mta?
[11:22] <petrik> eyequeue, Ok well that is already there
[11:22] <ubuntu> helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[11:22] <eyequeue> l: mail transport agent
[11:22] <rdz> hi all
[11:22] <SurfnKid> sup ubuntu
[11:22] <rdz> i have a problem, probably with rgb.txt. i cannot start pd anymore, it gives me the error: Application initialization failed: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black"
[11:22] <l> eyequeue: can you giive anaexample?
[11:22] <petrik> eyequeue, Will check othe PC (running kubuntu)
[11:22] <SurfnKid> !wmv
[11:22] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:22] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: you dont neeed all those letters
[11:22] <kspath> l: apt-cache search mta
[11:22] <eyequeue> petrik, presuming the router works, and the cables, it should be good
[11:23] <ubuntu> ok gnomefreak
[11:23] <eyequeue> petrik, rechecking connectors is never bad
[11:23] <kspath> l: apt-cache search mailx;apt-cache search mailutils
[11:23] <Linuturk_NB> any help on that OEM install? what is the terminal command to pull it out of OEM mode and make it ready for a new user to set himself up?
[11:24] <eyequeue> l: sorry, postfix is my favorite, but any should do the basics
[11:24] <Flannel> Linuturk_NB: what do you mean pull it out of OEM mode?
[11:24] <l> eyequeue: what do you think of smail?
[11:25] <eshowl> hi everyone, how can i change the default program to open mp3 file?
[11:25] <petrik> eyequeue, cables are fine. Just don't know what else I need for the two to see each other
[11:25] <Spec> what is OEM mode?
[11:25] <Flannel> Spec: the text-mode installer is labeled 'OEM installer'
[11:25] <eyequeue> l: i used it on one box here :)  fairly simple, go with it if you like
[11:25] <Spec> haha
[11:25] <leboff> msg nickserv identify col12dd
[11:25] <l> eyequeue: okie dokie
[11:25] <leboff> opps
[11:25] <Flannel> Spec: or, at least, I think it's still that way.  Theyve been changing names like crazy lately.
[11:25] <leboff> just kidding
[11:25] <markgrif> Better change that password.
[11:26] <markgrif> 8)
[11:26] <Linuturk_NB> Flannel, at the end of the OEM install, it gives you a terminal command to delete the temp oem account and let the home user setup their account on next reboot
[11:26] <eyequeue> petrik, first, can the router see both?  if so, perhaps IT needs to be configured to forward packets?
[11:26] <Linuturk_NB> delete all the temp OEM stuff
[11:26] <leboff> so anyone have experience with using dmraid with nvraid?
[11:26] <Spec> eshowl: it SHOULD be under system->preferences->preferred applications, but it's not.
[11:27] <petrik> eyequeue, How can I check the router sees both? Both are connecting to the internet so I gues that is a yes
[11:27] <Linuturk_NB> can anyone help me find that command?
[11:27] <leboff> cause i'm trying to access some files my windows drive that uses nvraid
[11:27] <eyequeue> petrik, go into the admin interface for the router ... it sees that box at least :)  see if it assigned a different ip addy to the other
[11:28] <eshowl> Spec, so what should i do?
[11:28] <blaze> "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[11:28] <blaze> ", what should i do?
[11:28] <leboff> no help?
[11:28] <leboff> blah
[11:28] <SurfnKid> is there a way to show a buddy icon in GAIM
[11:28] <SurfnKid> like a photo
[11:28] <eyequeue> petrik, as for how to get the router to allow forwarding "behind" it, that is router-dependent
[11:29] <rdz> hi all. i just upgraded from breezy to dapper and now my rgb.txt seems not to work anymore.....help much appreciated.
[11:29] <eyequeue> SurfnKid, that seems to happen here automatically .. the other party sets it
[11:29] <Spec> SurfnKid: in the buddy list?
[11:29] <SurfnKid> !gaim photo
[11:29] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid
[11:30] <SurfnKid> yeah like everyone else says they dont see a picture of me, of course i havent set one, where can i put one
[11:30] <eyequeue> SurfnKid, right click on users to set things about them, in general
[11:30] <Scognito> hi all
[11:30] <petrik> eyequeue, DHCP table I take it? Two different IP's there. Do I need to set up SAMBA or something?
[11:30] <crane> Peace out Peeps. I'm leaving work!
[11:30] <Scognito> i've messed up my mixer settings with alsa and sblive 5.1
[11:31] <SurfnKid> eyequeue oh right, but what about myself setting one up for me so they can see
[11:31] <nickrud> rdz, are you sure it didn't get overwritten?
[11:31] <Scognito> can someone send me the default settings of alsa mixer?
[11:31] <juanca7777> hello everyone
[11:31] <blaze> i have no "./configure"
[11:31] <blaze> what should i do?
[11:31] <Spec> eshowl: open up gconf-editor and under "desktop -> gnome -> volume_manager" you'll see option for all of the defualt players for gnome, be it Totem for dvd's, ect... Just change the entries to whatever media player you want to run as defualt and it should work. I changed the default dvd player from totem %m to xine: dvd:/ and it works so that xine is my default dvd player.
[11:31] <eyequeue> SurfnKid, tools>accountactions?
[11:32] <Spec> eshowl: copy&pasted from the Forums, which you should search before asking questions here ;)
[11:32] <leboff> so i'm asking for anyone that can help with dmraid
[11:32] <leboff> is that no one?
[11:32] <eyequeue> SurfnKid, that seems to be where you change "me" things, i've never bothered
[11:33] <juanca7777> I have one question concerning package updates, how can I know what are the files that are about to be updated, i.e. a have ubuntu-artwork-XXX1 that is going to be updated with XXX2, how can I know BEFORE I update the package what files will be replaced?
[11:33] <leboff> if you use synaptic .. its pretty straight forward
[11:33] <juanca7777> leboff: can you develop please :)
[11:33] <Linuturk_NB> i guess I'll have to reinstall to see what that command is
[11:33] <eyequeue> as in individual (non-conffile) files?
[11:34] <Linuturk_NB> I really need the OEM command.
[11:34] <leboff> juanca7777: hmm?
[11:34] <eyequeue> juanca7777, you can manually d/l, then inspect using mc or similar i suppose
[11:34] <Linuturk_NB> that sets the computer up for the end user after a sucessful OEM install and configuration
[11:35] <leboff> go to system > administration > synaptic package manager , then cick to install XXX2 and it will show you all the files it needs to grab before you do it
[11:35] <leboff> its pretty straight forward
[11:35] <eyequeue> juanca7777, conffiles dpkg will warn about, others you don't get the dpkg warning
[11:35] <petrik> eyequeue, I had ubuntu talking to windows before I formatted the windows PC to kubuntu
[11:35] <eyequeue> petrik, okay, that implies the router is configured already, right?
[11:36] <eyequeue> petrik, the only change is kubuntu?
[11:36] <petrik> eyequeue, Yes. I am assuming there is some program I need to setup on both
[11:36] <juanca7777> leboff: thanks, but I think I didn't explain it well, what I want is to know what files, not which packages, are to be replaced given a certain package
[11:36] <nickrud> Linuturk_NB, you mean oem-config?
[11:36] <leboff> ah
[11:36] <leboff> then i'm not sure
[11:36] <xnull> http://pastebin.ca/60058 who can take a look and help me?
[11:36] <eyequeue> petrik, personally, i'd say it should already work, presuming you didn't exclude you lan ips, 192.168.*
[11:36] <juanca7777> eyequeue:  conffiles ?
[11:37] <eyequeue> petrik, i'd try installing firestarter on each
[11:37] <brandon> i installed the newest java from sun' site and azureus still doesn't work properly
[11:37] <Linuturk_NB> nickrud
[11:37] <Linuturk_NB> yes
[11:37] <eyequeue> juanca7777, files that are considered admin-cusromizable, like /etc/init.d/foo for example
[11:37] <Linuturk_NB> omg, thanks
[11:37] <nickrud> Linuturk_NB, yw
[11:37] <crazy_penguin> good night everybody ! pleasent dreams ! :)
[11:37] <petrik> eyequeue, How can I test it?
[11:38] <skippy81> is anyone here knowledgable about how linux shared librarys work please?
[11:38] <juanca7777> eyequeue:  ah ok :)
[11:38] <eyequeue> juanca7777, if you manually change one of those, it will warn before overwrite, otherwise it will just overwrite
[11:38] <juanca7777> eyequeue:  yeap I see what you mean, I have already seen that happened :)
[11:38] <brettzilla> so, i cant playback avi files... anyone know how to fix this? i did it before, but now i cannot remember
[11:38] <nickrud> Linuturk_NB, I'm just glancing here while doing other work, the word reinstall got my attention :)
[11:38] <eyequeue> petrik, sudo apt-get install firestarter, on each
[11:38] <setite> anyone using ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[11:39] <HymnToLife> !tell brettzilla about codecs
[11:39] <brettzilla> thanks
[11:39] <vcourtney> hi all--I'm a linux newbie, just set up a dual-boot with suse, but it's going terribly.  I hear I'll have a much better time with ubuntu--true?
[11:39] <petrik> eyequeue, How can I get to see the files on each? I'll get firestarter now
[11:39] <brettzilla> hm. ive already installed the w32codecs
[11:39] <l> probably
[11:39] <l> ubuntu is very easy to install and use
[11:39] <l> it is a joy
[11:39] <brettzilla> and it still wont play the file... says i need a motion jpeg plugin
[11:39] <Linuturk_NB> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop just finished on my server. got a blank screen, but harddrive activity. how long should I wait?
[11:39] <eyequeue> juanca7777, but individual files buried in the rest of the package, it won't tell you about /usr/share/foo/pictures/of/my/cat.jpg :)
[11:39] <Sub> vcourtney, well the ubuntu install will detect your windows install and set up the dual boot for you.
[11:40] <Sub> i moved from suse to ubuntu.
[11:40] <HymnToLife> brettzilla> what format is your vid ?
[11:40] <vcourtney> l: suse was easy to install, I just can't build any modules within it
[11:40] <Linuturk_NB> I never liked Suse
[11:40] <grndslm> UBUNTUUUUU!!!!
[11:40] <brettzilla> its avi
[11:40] <juanca7777> eyequeue:  so there's no way to know in advance what's going to be updated?
[11:40] <eyequeue> petrik, well, i'd prowse them using sftp, because i install ssh client on server on most all machines, but anything you have set up to allow it, i guess
[11:40] <brettzilla> i recorded it with my digital camera
[11:40] <vcourtney> Sub, the dual boot works fine, it's just that I can't modify suse--there are all sorts of problems with yast getting things to install
[11:40] <brettzilla> and i was able to playback the file before
[11:40] <l> what is the terminal command to completely remove a package?
[11:40] <brettzilla> but i dont remember how i did it
[11:41] <HymnToLife> brettzilla> breezy or dapper ?
[11:41] <BioVorE> is the 6.06 TLS cd image the final image..  (will there be a new one tomarrow.. it will it just be called final?)
[11:41] <Sub> vcourtney, well theres no harm in trying ubuntu out.
[11:41] <Sub> apt is very good for installing things
[11:41] <Sub> !apt
[11:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[11:41] <brettzilla> dapper
[11:41] <l> what is the terminal command to completely remove a package?
[11:41] <HymnToLife> !dapper
[11:41] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[11:41] <vcourtney> thanks Sub :)
[11:41] <Sub> sudo apt-get remove packagename
[11:41] <brettzilla> maybe it was the vlc i had installed
[11:41] <eyequeue> juanca7777, on individual non-conffile basis?  i'd pre-d/l it, and compare the .deb contents using mc, to the contents of the package-unpacked-on-hard-drive-already
[11:41] <PMantis> How can I find out if Ubuntu will support an Intel ICH7R SATA controller ?
[11:41] <HymnToLife> It's not June 1st yet...
[11:41] <brettzilla> thank you HymnToLife
[11:41] <eyequeue> l: sudo dpkg --purge foo
[11:42] <dsas> BioVorE: It's quite likely that it is the final cd image. but possibly not.
[11:42] <BioVorE> PMantis: I think it dose..
[11:42] <juanca7777> eyequeue:  ok, thanks :)
[11:42] <dsas> BioVorE: scratch that, it's not the final image.
[11:42] <leboff> any help with dmraid?
[11:42] <skippy81> "cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" even though the library is on my system, please someone help
[11:42] <l> gaim&
[11:42] <HymnToLife> PMantis> try it out with a Live CD
[11:42] <BioVorE> I am guessing final image will be out tomarrow then..
[11:42] <HymnToLife> or launch the install and find out :)
[11:42] <PMantis> Heh.
[11:42] <dsas> BioVorE: I think it's only going to be changed for some chinese language issues.
[11:42] <PMantis> HymnToLife, I'm ordering a server... I need to know before I pay for a custom build. :)
[11:43] <Linuturk_NB> will ubuntu run well on a 300mhz pc?
[11:43] <eyequeue> petrik, "anything" might mean nfs or samba or something there
[11:43] <Chousuke> Linuturk_NB: It will, but you will have to drop a lot of the good stuff.
[11:43] <HymnToLife> Linuturk_NB> how muh RAM ?
[11:43] <dsas> Linuturk_NB: Probably not very well if you're wanting it to use it as a desktop OS, you may want to look at xubuntu
[11:43] <Linuturk_NB> i got debian sarge installed with gnome, and it runs slow (but not unbearable)
[11:44] <Chousuke> I wouldn't run gnome with only 300MHz :/
[11:44] <HymnToLife> I hae Woody with Fluxbox on a 133 MHz and it runs pretty smoothly :p
[11:44] <Chousuke> there are more lightweight alternatives.
[11:44] <Linuturk_NB> i'm running it on 500 mhz
[11:44] <trpr42> Linuturk_NB: shouldn't have a problem. expect it to act as slow as it is though. xubuntu, or even just replacing kde/gnome with something lightweight will make a big difference
[11:44] <eyequeue> petrik, to check the networking, 'ping 192.168.0.3' from 192.168.0.2 ........ filesharing is a completely different task, and typically more complex
[11:44] <zcat[1] > Chousuke: I would.. but it'd want 256M ram
[11:44] <l> eyequeue: are they the same?
[11:44] <Linuturk_NB> has XFCE been fixed since 5.10?
[11:44] <eyequeue> l: sudo dpkg --purge foo will remove all conffiles, whereas --remove will not
[11:44] <LuKe-LuKe> has anybody tried to use Qemu with Kqemu on ubuntu breezy??
[11:44] <leboff> hmm any dmraid help here?
[11:45] <HymnToLife> reminds me I should dist-upgrade my woody asap (ie when I get DSL)
[11:45] <Linuturk_NB> there were several links in the menus that wouldn't work
[11:45] <PlumTree> bye everyone ;]  I must say that NoUse is a fantastic guy and helped me a lot ;-)
[11:45] <l> eyequeue: ok, tahnk you
[11:45] <eyequeue> no prob
[11:45] <nickrud> 466 celeron, hoary forced me up
[11:46] <juanca7777> bye everyone, thanks eyequeue
[11:46] <Overand> Is there a problem with the LTS RC LiveCD x86's partitioning stuff?
[11:46] <zcat[1] > running dapper on a 500MHz dell laptop with 256M ram.. it's a bit slow but tolerable.
[11:46] <Overand> It refuses to create a swap partition- should I ask in
[11:46] <leboff> i thought linux was supposed to be able to run on your grandmas washing machine
[11:46] <Overand> ah
[11:46] <petrik> eyequeue, Ok I'll read up some more on samba and nfs. It's the filesharing I need
[11:46] <zcat[1] > leboff: yes.. something like damn small  linux will run quite nicely on a 486..
[11:47] <gumpish> Is there a countdown page to release?
[11:47] <zcat[1] > there's even a port or uclinux that runs on the ipod..
[11:47] <zcat[1] > *of
[11:47] <rdz> zcat[1] , did you upgrad from breezy to dapper, or just installed dapper?
[11:48] <HymnToLife> there's even a port of NetBSD that runs on a toaster
[11:48] <zcat[1] > installed from flight4, have been upgrading ever since..
[11:48] <HymnToLife> but that's slightly offtopic
[11:48] <eyequeue> petrik, the pinging part works okay there?
[11:48] <Fly_Molo> can someone give me a hand installing ubuntu?
[11:48] <rdz> cos i just upgraded and some applications don't run anymore
[11:48] <Booo> can someone tell if ubuntu can be installed on macbook?
[11:48] <rdz> it seems that it is related to rgb.txt
[11:48] <nickrud> Booo, g3 & up iirc
[11:48] <eyequeue> petrik, samba is used for sharing with windows, nfs (network file system) is the more unix-native flavor
[11:49] <zcat[1] > Booo: should be ok..
[11:49] <rdz> it doesn't recongize the colornames anymore...
[11:49] <Booo> zcat[1] which version 5.10?
[11:49] <rdz> and i don't know where to start..
[11:49] <Booo> nickrud ?
[11:49] <Fly_Molo> my ubuntu installation says it cant read the CD
[11:49] <Fly_Molo> can even thuogh it was recently burned
[11:50] <nickrud> rdz, personal experience is that upgrading between releases is not as breezy as debian. I've always reinstalled, after getting my selections
[11:50] <zcat[1] > if it's not an oldworld mac there should be no problem installing dapper ..
[11:50] <NoUse> Fly_Molo did you verify the CD image after you downloaded it?
[11:50] <petrik> eyequeue, pinging works like a charm
[11:50] <Fly_Molo> yes twice
[11:50] <Fly_Molo> checked for consistency
[11:50] <Linuturk_NB> oldworld macs are a pain in the butt
[11:50] <Fly_Molo> and passed both times
[11:50] <nickrud> Booo, new world mac if I have my terminology corrct
[11:51] <Booo> nickrud: I sorry i dont understand.  I want to know if can install ubuntu on a macbook with out problems if so which version
[11:51] <zcat[1] > I got breezy on my beige g3, but it wasn't easy. The kernel from dapper just won't boot at all on it :(
[11:51] <zcat[1] > Booo: Yes. Dapper.
[11:51] <nickrud> Booo, listen to zcat[1]  his experience is a lot more fresh than mine
[11:51] <NoUse> Fly_Molo hmm, what speed did you burn the cd at?
[11:52] <Booo> x86 right
[11:52] <Fly_Molo> my specs are AMD Athlon X2 3800+, 1GB Corsair ValueSelect, Nvidia 7800GT, Plextor Pl-740
[11:52] <Fly_Molo> 8x
[11:52] <Fly_Molo> negative x64
[11:52] <zcat[1] > Booo: should be fairly easy..
[11:52] <eyequeue> oh wow!  even at this late date, dapper is getting new packages!
[11:52] <Booo> ok thanks
[11:52] <zcat[1] > Booo: is it an intel mac or a ppc one?
[11:52] <NoUse> Fly_Molo could be a bad burn, perhaps try again
[11:52] <Fly_Molo> hmm ive done it twice
[11:52] <Booo> zcat[1]  intel mac
[11:52] <Fly_Molo> its the DVD image
[11:52] <Fly_Molo> with the live and installer
[11:52] <nickrud> Booo, heh.
[11:53] <Fly_Molo> downloaded from BitTorrent
[11:53] <Booo> nickrud?
[11:53] <caissa> Hmm.. How can i install mplayer
[11:53] <NoUse> !tell caissa about mplayer
[11:53] <Fly_Molo> it also gave me a problem on my laptop
[11:53] <nickrud> Booo, I don't think any linux goes onto that without some contortions yet.
[11:53] <BioVorE> Fly_Molo: where dose it die at?  after the installer has started coping stuff to the HD?
[11:53] <eyequeue> !tell caissa about mplayer
[11:53] <gnomefreak> dapper shouldnt be getting new packages :(
[11:53] <gnomefreak> im running update now
[11:53] <zcat[1] > well, I'd suggest get the x86 live-cd installer .. check what works off the live CD and if there are no issues go ahead and do an install. Should be fairly straighforward. You might want ot wait two more days for the final of dapper.
[11:53] <nickrud> I can't run the 686 kernel!!!
[11:54] <BioVorE> its still unstable
[11:54] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: I don't think syncing has started just yet
[11:54] <apokryphos> though even it had, it could just mean the mirror you're using is syncing now
[11:54] <Fly_Molo> on Laptop it stops at 6% on HD Partition, on Desktop it wont even get to install
[11:54] <NoUse> Fly_Molo did you check the iso file against the md5 sum?
[11:54] <BioVorE> Fly_Molo: this with the new graphical installer?
[11:54] <eyequeue> gnomefreak, thunderbird-quickfile
[11:54] <Fly_Molo> its 5.10
[11:55] <Fly_Molo> thats all about i know
[11:55] <Fly_Molo> this is my first time
[11:55] <Fly_Molo> installing a linux distro
[11:55] <NoUse> !tell Fly_Molo about md5
[11:55] <NoUse> Fly_Molo read the page ubotu just sent you
[11:55] <BioVorE> Fly_Molo: 5.10 worked fine on my athlon 64 here (64 bit version)  Athlon +3800 with nvidia GC on pci-e
[11:55] <SnoJack> is this the right place to ask about a problem I'm having on the dapper install?
[11:56] <NoUse> SnoJack #ubuntu+1
[11:56] <Fly_Molo> ok reading it right now
[11:56] <SnoJack> thanx
[11:56] <eyequeue> SnoJack, /join #ubuntu+1
[11:56] <petrik> eyequeue, thanks for your guidance
[11:56] <Fly_Molo> where do i download the MD5 and the gpg files?
[11:56] <Fly_Molo> there are no links
[11:56] <simian__> why is it that when I load epiphany and firefox, epiphany uses more memory?
[11:56] <eyequeue> petrik, no problem, and i hope file sharing is smoioth for you
[11:57] <sloucher> is anyone having trouble with the repositories with breezy - the ones found here http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[11:57] <sloucher> beside me that is
[11:57] <rdz>  /join #ubuntu+1
[11:57] <Scognito> why aumix doesn't change the volume?
[11:57] <Scognito> only from alsamixer work
[11:57] <Scognito> but it is a pain in the ass
[11:57] <Scognito> it worked before :/
[11:57] <Scognito> any hint?
[11:57] <eyequeue> Fly_Molo, from any mirror, buuuuuut ... they're checked automatically in ubuntu for you, unless you want that assurace manually you don't have to
[11:58] <zcat[1] > mystery; I have just installed ubuntu on this box, sound works fine but I can't adjust the volume at all. Also I have two mixer controls SiS7012 and CMI9761 .. neither have any effect on what rhythmbox is playing...
[11:58] <Fly_Molo> ok thanks
[11:58] <Jaak> What is the default login and passwd of a freshly installed server edition of ubuntu?
[11:58] <eyequeue> Jaak, ubuntu/null, i think
[11:58] <zcat[1] > Jaak: doest the installer ask for one?
[11:58] <Jaak> ok thanks
[11:59] <eyequeue> Jaak, null meaning empty, not n u l l
[11:59] <eyequeue> Jaak, oops, i missed the word server
[11:59] <zcat[1] > live cd is ubuntu/null, I thought any install (even server) would prompt you for a username and password..