=== thom_ [n=thom@c-69-180-208-122.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:42] is there an auto login option for a selected user? [12:42] I believe so [12:43] System->Administration->Login Window [12:44] it's under the Security tab [12:45] found it thanks === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #edubuntu === mdke looks for Pete Savage [12:53] mdke, he's cbx33 if he's here [12:54] ogra: guess not [12:54] I just found a bunch of LTSP documentation which wasn't tagged as documentation, looks like he has been working on it a lot [12:56] he moved it all into one place recently [12:56] but there is a lot incomplete [12:57] yeah, it looks well structured, although there are some pages still hanging loose [12:57] anyway, I tagged it all === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === NewToIRC [n=chatzill@p549B0BF0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu [02:12] hello, anybody out there [02:13] hmmm === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has left #edubuntu ["goodbye!"] [02:20] I'm here [02:20] me too :/ [02:20] darn it, missed him/her === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@nat-pool-bos.redhat.com] has joined #edubuntu === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-85-40.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === caravena_ [n=caravena@200.27.240.91] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu [03:26] Hello === mjg [n=gehlm@207.250.167.73] has joined #edubuntu [03:33] heya [03:37] Hi ogra === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@201.215.87.19] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-85-40.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === toosa [n=toosa@202.73.108.83] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-85-40.houston.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@201.214.38.110] has joined #edubuntu [04:50] hi all === arkan0x is away: .....zzz...b [04:52] hi all [04:53] Hello Lord_Athur [04:53] I had ubuntu breezy installed, but I installed on the computer edubuntu-desktop [04:54] OK [04:54] now i want to upgrade to drapper, but the internet network works very slowly, with windwos it does everything quickly, what can this be? [04:56] bddebian, any idea?+ [04:56] Same DNS servers? [04:56] Is it slow on all Internet activity or just with Ubuntu sites? [04:57] :) ubuntu sities [04:57] :P [04:58] well, there are a lot of people downloading .iso files an doing upgrades [04:58] but ubuntu always works fast [04:58] Well they are probably a little busy right now with everyone pulling data/packages to test with :-) [04:58] thanks to all [04:58] maybe that's why [04:58] :P [04:58] Lord_Athur: are you using the main Ubuntu mirror or a local one [04:59] the main [04:59] well I put the sources list from the ubuntu page, so i think it's the main [04:59] you might try a closer mirror then and see if that is faster [05:00] thanks, ti's a good idea [05:00] *it's === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === SteveCharles [n=steve@ppp-69-223-164-94.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu === SteveCharles [n=steve@ppp-69-223-164-94.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has left #edubuntu [] [05:24] I'll go the bed :P === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@201.214.38.110] has left #edubuntu ["Abandonando"] === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === superseth [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === RobNyc_C [n=boethius@nylug/member/RobNyc] has joined #edubuntu [05:49] hello [05:49] how can I install edubuntu from the ubuntu livecd ? [05:49] RobNyc_C: is it a dapper livecd? [05:49] yes [05:49] the latest 1 [05:50] RobNyc_C, I don't think so [05:50] ok, you can do the install and once that's done install the edubuntu-desktop package from the internet [05:50] alright [05:50] i thought so, cuz distrowatch only provided 1 iso for download and i guess i was gonna be able to install either edu, ubu or xubu [05:51] RobNyc_C, where did distrowatch do that?> [05:51] RobNyc_C: hmmk - there are isos for edubuntu though [05:52] http://distrowatch.com/3463 [05:53] now i see where it says for other editions [05:53] hmm, foolish on DW part [05:54] that was three announcements they crammed into one [05:54] lol [05:54] Ubuntu is very clear about not offering that kind of choice in the installer [05:54] well being ubuntu the main 1 thats why === superseth [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === superseth [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@201.215.87.19] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [07:35] mehh [07:36] moo [07:36] ogra: embassy is giving me a hard time :/ [07:37] meh [07:39] :/ [07:40] "we would like to have the french economic office in manila to send a recommendation letter of your business travel" [07:40] gee a 5 day trip [07:40] phew === jsgotangco is hating his nationality more than ever === ogra can totally understand that === jsgotangco will probably get his visa (if approved a 2 days before flying) [07:43] bah [07:44] how's development? [07:44] i tested all install CD arches [07:45] meh i forgot i have to get travel insurance for 30,000 [07:45] we had a rebuild that just finished and i have just done i386 live ... burning amd64 [07:45] when i get back home later i'll rsync === jsgotangco is in a cafe near the consular office === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === superseth [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === popey [n=popey@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === pontifex [n=pontifex@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:18] JaneW: ping? === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.106.9.231] has joined #edubuntu [08:19] jsgotangco: hi [08:20] JaneW: are you still handling paris or already turning over work? [08:20] jsgotangco: clan is doing it now [08:20] clan = the new claire [08:20] newman? [08:20] neuman or whatever [08:20] I was negotiating with silbs to go for some of the event but it was getting complicated so I am not going at all :/ [08:21] Newman [08:21] ok then i sent the email to the right person [08:21] Claire Newman [08:21] JaneW: french embassy is asking me a lot of stuff [08:21] jsgotangco: like? [08:21] JaneW: thanks i already got to talk to her a few weeks ago [08:21] we had trouble with the australian embassy [08:21] "we would like to have the french economic office in manila to send a recommendation letter of your business travel" [08:22] eventually mark had to intervene [08:22] contact cvd [08:22] ok [08:22] thanks [08:22] by now she should have a standard letter explaining that Canonical does exisit and does invite people to work events etc [08:23] is cvd online? [08:23] althoug i did email clan already but yeah i'll try contacting agian [08:23] australian embassy? trouble? surely not :) [08:25] yeah i went into australia in a breeze [08:25] without even appearing personally [08:26] eekkk coffee house net access is expensive (almost out of credits here) === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === jimjimovich2 [n=jimjimov@gate.spcu.atlant.ru] has joined #edubuntu === ajayc [i=Ajay@59.93.195.215] has joined #edubuntu [08:35] sankarshan, u india? === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [08:42] ajayc: yes === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [08:43] sankarshan, where in india? [08:43] well i see you are flooding some other channel too [08:43] yeah [08:44] bcos that channel is for flooding :) === pontifex [n=pontifex@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === popey [n=popey@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [09:19] ogra: hi there [09:19] ogra: how are you? [09:19] *yawn* hey [09:19] tired [09:19] heh. up early hey? [09:20] but not done yet [09:20] nope, didnt sleep yet [09:20] geez! [09:21] how is edubuntu doing? things coming together? [09:21] yup, its fine [09:21] 20060530.2 install was fine on all arches, 20060531 live as well [09:22] NZ is too thin [09:22] to sad we have the 31 image, so i need to completely re-test install (even the change was minor enough to be worth just waving it through) === bimberi runs [09:22] ;P [09:24] ogra: on all arch's? [09:25] yes, six install flavors per arch [09:25] 3 arches [09:26] but first i'm finishing up the 12 dvd installs [09:28] wow - i bet you're answering install questions without looking by now [09:28] which questions ? :P [09:28] lol [09:28] i know how to type my name now :) [09:29] the rest is only hitting the enter key ... [09:31] heh. === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@209.152.164.93] has joined #edubuntu [09:38] ogra: it's ok it wasn't a bug [09:38] it was oem mode [09:39] mornin all :p === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === SteveCharles [n=steve@ppp-69-223-164-94.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === SteveCharles [n=steve@ppp-69-223-164-94.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has left #edubuntu [] [09:51] ogra: any reason why all my testing results were wiped form the matrix? [09:52] becausee sfllaw wants only the results for the most recent build, i had to beg already to keep the ones from tonights image [09:53] but my were from last nights images [09:53] i tested 30.2 [09:53] do we need to test 31 now? [09:53] not fro .2 [09:53] yes [09:53] bugger me [09:54] alll that work [09:54] did you want me to test 31? [09:54] i was just about to report that the expert install I tested worked fine [09:54] i'm already done with the liveCDs [09:54] nice [09:55] do we have ppc now? [09:55] yep mine were fine as well [09:55] including ltsp [09:55] wicked [09:55] well I only have 1 machine available to me [09:55] but i can install a VM on that if you need me to test an i386 [09:56] tell canonical to get me a mac for next time :p [09:56] and a 64 bits machine [09:56] indeed, every additional tes would help [09:56] then i can test em all :p [09:56] ogra: any in particualr you want...or do ya just want me to ....go nuts === pygi [n=pygi@83.131.249.12] has joined #edubuntu [09:56] pygi: good morning [09:57] I'm starting on the cookbook stuff now [09:57] the gaps in the matrix need filling ;) [09:57] cbx33, nice :) [09:57] i didnt do autoresize tests for example [09:58] ok [09:58] I'll do those [09:59] do you need amd 64 live? [10:00] all i can get ... [10:01] highvoltage: *wave* from across the garden [10:02] is there a meeting today? [10:02] *cough* [10:03] JaneW, hey :) [10:03] only without me [10:03] mentors can be changed/assigned now, so you can those 3 mentorless [10:03] thanks :) [10:04] pygi: yay [10:05] cbx33: I think so, but a brief one [10:05] JaneW, you need to read how tho on the list (summer-admins I would say) [10:05] cbx33: shall we do the same as last week? [10:05] ogra: if i misconfigure xorg during an install [10:05] pygi: will do [10:05] JaneW: sounds good to me [10:05] ie miss off 1024x768 when i really want it [10:05] how can i get it back [10:05] I've edited xorg.conf and added it to all bit depths [10:06] but I really need it to be able to do cookbook stuff [10:06] any clues [10:07] JaneW: *waveback* [10:08] :) [10:08] hey highvoltage [10:08] were those screenshots of use to you [10:09] cbx33: i havnen't extracted them yet. the tarball is in my downloads/inbox folder === highvoltage extracts them now [10:09] hehe [10:09] it's ok just wondering I was so glad i found my backup [10:09] today seems like it will be a bit more peaceful than the last week or so [10:10] yup [10:10] ooh, yeah some nice screens there [10:10] ;) [10:14] hello all [10:14] i just want to say that i'm really looking forward to the final release of Edubunt dapper [10:14] we're going to switch all our student computers to Edubuntu in June. Just hoping all goes well. Got a new server just waiting for the install CD :) [10:15] jimjimovich2: cool [10:15] jimjimovich2: have you placed your pre-order yet? [10:15] we're planning to do a blog every day of the project and post what we learned. we hope it will be useful for the community [10:16] we pre-ordered, yes. but will probably need to download because we must finish the project in June [10:16] We're in Russia, so I think it will take a long time to get the CDs by mail [10:18] ogra: we have on old screenshot in gettingstarted.html in edubuntu-docs [10:19] ogra: it still says 'Install a server' for the one option, but i suppose we can live with that? [10:20] ogra: nice modifications, btw, I'm quite satisfied with the docs we have with edubuntu this time, major improvement over last time :) [10:20] jimjimovich2: ah yes and it can take up to 8 weeks after the release for pre-orders to be delivered [10:21] jimjimovich2: there is usually a HUGE backlog [10:21] cbx33, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg just use the defaults, except for the resolution [10:21] highvoltage, dapper-updates ;) === ogra is off for more ppc testing bbl [10:21] thanks ogra [10:21] JaneW: It's OK. We'll probably use the shipped CDs to give to other universities and schools [10:21] highvoltage: do you want a new screenshot [10:22] I'm just about to do an edubuntu install [10:22] jimjimovich2: good to hear! :) [10:22] cbx33: we have a new screenshot, it's just too late to change the package now [10:22] ah ok [10:22] swat ti thought [10:30] brb === pygi [n=pygi@83.131.249.12] has joined #edubuntu === noodleman [n=nathanda@host217-41-3-218.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #edubuntu [10:50] hey can anyone give me some tech help? === B4zzA [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-169-33.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu [10:51] noodleman: what sort? [10:52] Burgundavia, how's the boat going? :) [10:52] pygi: boat? [10:52] well, the safety boat :) [10:53] ah, haven't talked to anselmo is a day or so [10:53] nice :) === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@209.152.164.93] has joined #edubuntu [10:58] hey [10:58] I've messed up the window manager [10:58] i can only get a command prompt [11:01] pygi: sections can you expand a little on the security section of chap 2 [11:02] how lower level are we going with the cookbook [11:02] limits.conf is a fairly advanced feature [11:03] I'll document it if you want. [11:03] also, HedgeMage has already written a section on user management [11:03] shall we just use that one for the user management for chapter II [11:03] and we could add screenshots to both [11:04] cbx33, if you dont want no need to document for dapper [11:04] But for edgy we are going to the lowest point :) [11:04] oooohhh yeh [11:05] pygi: for edgy, we gonna print it on lulu right :D [11:05] cbx33, "lulu"? [11:05] for edgy, it's going to be in printed form :) [11:05] because It's looking more and more like the cookbook could be come the book that I wanted to write for edubuntu [11:05] lulu prints for you, you only pay printing costs [11:05] LaserJock printed his packaging guide on there [11:05] We'll do the real printing :) === cbx33 's jaw drops === Mazzhe [i=kvirc@88.219.230.201] has joined #edubuntu [11:09] cbx33, what? :) [11:09] hey, what command could i use to wipe a hard disk? [11:10] X server has been corrupted, I figure it's going to just be easiest to wipe everything and start again [11:11] noodleman: you can just choose to do that when you re-install [11:11] noodleman: the installer asks if you want to erase the current disk [11:11] i can't get to the installer [11:11] noodleman: how so? [11:11] pygi: where we gonna get it printed? [11:12] I'm still pretty new to linux but I'm guessing it's because a lot of stuff on the HDs messed up [11:12] with lulu we just submit a pdf and they do the rest :D [11:12] cbx33, some publisher? :) [11:12] although, thinking about it, that doesnt make sense [11:13] but the computer won't boot into the CD [11:13] it would yesterday [11:13] *sigh* [11:15] pygi: hmmm a publisher would be great [11:16] to get the exposure [11:16] but lulu could be good too.... [11:16] cbx33, heh :) [11:17] cbx33, I'll try to see what I can do about publisher once we have Chapters layout for Edgy [11:20] excellent [11:20] there's gonna be a big think chapter on LTSP [11:20] I've pulled most of the chapters together now [11:21] i really want to get AD integration working for edgy [11:21] think it would be of real benefit [11:21] I'm almost there === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.106.9.231] has joined #edubuntu [11:22] cbx33, nice :) === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 almost got a book published once :p [11:29] it was on creating 3D graphics [11:31] cbx33, nice, why not get it published? :) [11:36] never finished it [11:36] after it got dropped i kinda figured what was the point [11:36] but now lulu is available i may oneday [11:36] found a bug in something !! [11:37] either vmware or edubuntu [11:37] during installation when there is a progress bar on screen [11:37] press alt+tab [11:37] and then ctrl+alt [11:37] it stops the installation === blue-frog [n=james@88.121.183.156] has joined #edubuntu [11:38] that is odd [11:38] yes [11:38] not sure what's at fault [11:38] but it is unlikely to be vmware [11:38] ctrl+alt is captured by vmware though, so it shouldn't cause the problem [11:38] yes i know [11:39] but i can still alt+F2 [11:39] to goto virtual terminals [11:39] and I can still run like the ps command to see what's going on [11:39] and the processes are just frozen [11:39] yup it does it whenever the is a progress bar [11:40] I'm gonna report in ubuntu-bugs [11:41] have you checked what happens if you just press alt+tab? [11:41] and then pressing it again after it freezes? [11:41] just about to [11:41] perhaps it's a d-i feature of some sorts [11:43] it's alt-tab [11:44] good call highvoltage [11:45] can someone check this out on another machine please [11:46] cbx33 check what? [11:46] no need [11:46] ok === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [11:56] jsgotangco: you've been testing havn't you [11:57] have you tried hitting alt+tab when there is a progress bar on the screen [11:57] cbx33: i haven't tested today (i just arrived) [11:58] ok === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu [12:00] i just need someone to try this out [12:00] you can try it even when it says detecing hardware to find cd-rom [12:00] hi, all [12:00] hi HedgeMage [12:00] howz the cookbook [12:01] cbx33: coming, slowly [12:02] I'm gonna be helping out today [12:02] but i just noticed a bug in di [12:02] cbx33: I had a crazy weekend, so I'm just now transcribing the last of my stuff === HedgeMage nods [12:02] I couldn't help but laugh at the last meeting minutes where it was noted that some cookbook work was "being stored locally" [12:03] In this case "stored locally" roughly translates to "scratched out on the backs of napkins, army paperwork, and other stuff jammed in a folder in HedgeMage's backpack" [12:03] indeed :p === HedgeMage giggles [12:04] I guess "stored locally" is less verbose, at least, though it somehow brings up images of USB sticks or laptop hard drives in my mind, lacking the visceral quality of the real state of the cookbook :P [12:04] heh [12:04] think you'll be ready today? [12:04] Yep [12:04] nice [12:04] transcribing the last of what I have as we speak [12:05] I'm working on the missing secions from chap 2 [12:05] at least I can read my own handwriting ;) [12:05] cool [12:05] HedgeMage: i ave screenshots [12:05] i was going to use them for my user admin bit [12:05] cool [12:05] but i see you already have written one [12:05] we could share :p [12:05] hehe :) [12:06] Mine has gaps... I'm trying to transcribe and proof the other stuff before I tackle "look and feel" and "printing" so if anyone wants a go at those [12:07] I think this version of the cookbook is largely an exercise in getting words on paper (or in this case, on wiki) and that the cookbook will really become something with Edgy (not that our present stuff isn't cool, it's just not as cool as it can be) [12:07] did you want my screenshots for your user admin bit? [12:07] HedgeMage: yeh, we'll have a printed version for edgy [12:08] i was going to write an edubuntu book [12:08] but looks like i can pool my efforts into the cookbook [12:08] cbx33, well, we'll have the real edubuntu book for edgy, so no worries [12:08] I just need to make a team to see who really wanna work on it [12:09] pygi: i'll be in on it [12:09] cbx33, yes, I know you will :) [12:10] I'll need to see if jsgotangco and highvoltage are interested in "real book" as well [12:10] ah i see [12:10] If they are, the team is good enough [12:10] real book = print? === HedgeMage nods [12:11] yep [12:11] jsgotangco, yes ;) [12:11] cbx33, well, they could be of use, dont you think? :) [12:11] sure but don't expect me to jump suddenly, i currently am doing one with a publisher and we're expecting it to end by next month [12:12] well as i was going to write one anyway :p [12:12] jsgotangco: an edubuntu book? [12:12] cbx33, well, you going to work on your own or with us? :P [12:12] cbx33: no [12:12] pygi: with you of course === HedgeMage bats her eyes at cbx33 and tries to look lovable [12:12] no point putting my efforts into just my own effort [12:12] awwww [12:12] HedgeMage: you won it really [12:13] hehe :) [12:13] yay! === HedgeMage puts her nose to the grindstone again === jsgotangco will just sort out this silly visa requirement thing bbl === jsgotangco has hassled clan and cvd too much already [12:16] pygi: you know what I'm going to do if this gets made into a print book? I'm going to buy two copies and mail them in turn to each of the authors for signatures -- one for me and one for my mom. [12:16] awww [12:17] (my mom's all cute about stuff like that, and I just like reminders of cool people I work with) [12:17] HedgeMage: no reason we can't put it into a pdf and print it on lulu [12:17] what is the license of the current cookbook? [12:17] jsgotangco, none yet :-P [12:17] jsgotangco: uhhh... I don't think we've come up with anything more official than "be nice" yet [12:17] HedgeMage, we can put the current book on Lulu [12:17] ergh [12:17] cbx33, current one may go to Lulu [12:17] what's lulu? [12:17] but I would like the edgy to be real publisher [12:18] one-offs like cafepress but for books? [12:18] nice [12:19] HedgeMage, something like thq5 [12:19] that* [12:20] cafepress can also do book [12:20] cbx33, do you agree with that? [12:20] HedgeMage, no reason why we cant all meet once the book is published :) === cbx333 [n=c2df514b@209.152.164.93] has joined #edubuntu [12:20] pygi: heh that would be cool, but probably beyond my budget [12:20] sure [12:20] wb cbx33 [12:21] cbx333: even [12:21] sorry bout that [12:21] np it happens :) [12:23] grrr... I'll brb under a different nick [12:23] having problems with people who don't know what an off-duty staffer is :( === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has left #edubuntu [] === Susan [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu [12:26] Hi, all [12:26] I miss anything interesting? === Susan points to her HedgeMage cloak so no one wonders who she is === jeffwaddell [n=jeff@c-71-197-189-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:27] who's Susan :p === cbx333 sets up the interrogation room [12:30]