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apokryphosedward_: are you on dapper or breezy?12:04
edward_is gstreamer0.10 not a good idea12:04
Kadranok edward_ as apokryphos try installing libxine-extracodecs and good luck12:04
edward_I'm on Dapper12:04
apokryphosedward_: so enable the universe repository and install libxine-extracodecs12:04
apokryphos!repositories12:04
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource12:04
Jack_Sparrowlater people..12:04
edward_okay, I'll try that. Thanks ...12:04
Kadranthanks apokryphos12:05
edward_universe is enabled, but only libxine-main1 and lixinerama1 pop up12:05
foodcomanshoot the bunny12:05
mardiKadran: ok, i can run skype from /usr/bin now, and i've run gdb with the your commands12:05
mardiwhat am i looking for in the gdb output?12:06
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Kadranmardi: usually it tells you where the fault is happening as missing libraries or files and may be commands12:07
edward_Ah well, I'll try again tomorrow. Thanks.12:07
apokryphosedward_: oh sorry, they've put it in multiverse, not universe.12:07
apokryphos!info libxine-extracodecs dapper12:08
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: (the xine video/media player library, binary files), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 1148 kB, Installed size: 2976 kB12:08
mardi[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] 12:08
mardi[New Thread -1222809920 (LWP 22002)] 12:08
apokryphosedward_: so just enable multiverse repository and get that package.12:08
mardi[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] 12:08
mardi[New Thread -1222809920 (LWP 22002)] 12:08
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mardidamn, sorry!12:08
apokryphos:)12:08
Kadranmardi: use pastepin12:08
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mardipastepin, ok12:08
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Kadran!pastebin12:09
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 12:09
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edward_apokryphos: Sorry if I'm being slow. I enable the multiverse in Adept, but it goes grey again when I fetch updates12:11
apokryphosedward_: you might have to hit "apply" or whatever12:11
apokryphosedward_: or you could do it manually -- close down adept then: alt+f2 -> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:11
apokryphosand add "multiverse" to every line that has "universe"12:11
apokryphosedward_: save, close it down, and then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs12:12
mardiKadran: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1487412:12
mardiKadran: ok, theres the message i get from gdb :)12:13
edward_apokryphos: I'm on it. I'll be back ...12:13
apokryphossure12:13
Kadranmardi: just press enter to let gdb move forward in your code12:13
wordok so 2 problems....the bottom bar thing goes all fuzzy when i dock a window on it....and when I don't skip(ctrl+c) the Enterprise Volume Manager on startup kubuntu doesn't boot12:14
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Kadranmardi: keep pressing enter untill you see the program running, then close it and gdb will tell you that the program exited normally, if there is a problem it will apear in the screen like missing library12:15
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mardiKadran: ok, "Program exited normally" but when i tried to initiate a call with gdb running it said "/dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy"12:17
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BilfordI have a scripting question.  I made a script to download an image , and to set it as my wallpaper.  But the wallpaper function is only working if I run the script myself in a console.  The wallpaper function isnt working when the crontab runs it12:18
Bilfordhttp://pastebin.com/74791312:18
Kadranmardi: that mean you have a problem with skype and your sound and this problem can be solved from skype preference12:18
edward_apokryphos: You are a star, Amarok lives! Thanks for your help. I'm getting there ... slowly ;-)12:19
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KadranBilford: cool script :)12:19
BilfordKadran, thx.  I had help12:19
apokryphosedward_: don't hesitate to come in and tell us about any other problems you have =)12:19
Bilfordbut, disregard the image.jpg name.  I only changed it for the PasteBin12:19
mardiKadran: Starting Skype up again, do you have any suggestions about the preference?12:19
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wordapokryphos: The bottom half of my bleh...bar that holds the k menu is fuzzy if i dock a window on it...how can i fix t hat?12:20
apokryphosnot sure what you mean12:20
KadranBilford: sorry don't count in me in scripting, i just loved the idea ;)12:20
foodcomanapokryphos: Another on the side of your plane.12:20
wordi'll try and take a screen12:20
mardiKadran: It says under "audio devices" that its using dev/dsp12:21
apokryphosfoodcoman: sorry?12:21
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apokryphosmardi: lsof /dev/dsp gives?12:21
foodcomanapokryphos: You killed another technical issue with remedy.  Pilots would put kills on the side of their plane to show how good of an ACE they are.12:22
apokryphos8)12:22
Kadranmardi: actually when i was using skype some times it says the device is busy and some times it works fine but i wasn't interested in this problem as i have only used it twice or 3 times only12:22
Kadranbut it works12:22
Kadranapokryphos: actually you are briliant12:23
mardiKadran: It says "konqueror 10543 cheesecake   26u   CHR   14,3      7758 /dev/dsp"12:23
Cosmo_1847Hello, Can anyone give me a link to a page that tells me how to network kubuntu 5.10 to OSX 10.4.6 ?12:23
Kadranhey mardi kill this process12:23
wordapokryphos: Ok nevermind that one i can live with...the other problem i have is when kubuntu boots up if I don't skip (ctrl+c) the entireprise volume manager then it won't boot..it starts throwing some I/O errors. this is a new problem it wasn't doing this before so i don't know what's wrong...12:23
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apokryphosmardi: either kill konqueror or kill -9 1054312:23
mardiok, killing it12:24
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apokryphosword: for screenshots you can use alt+f2 -> ksnapshot btw12:24
apokryphosword: enterprise volume manager? Is that some gnome thing?12:24
wordapokryphos: No, it's something that boots up with kubuntu.12:24
Bilfordfor screenshots, just press  PrintScreen12:25
apokryphosword: are you on dapper?12:25
mardiOMG Thank you apokryphos and Kadran - its working!!12:25
wordAnd the ksnapshot wasn't catching the fuzziness so whatever..............yes apokryphos.12:25
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apokryphosword: not imagining it? ;-)12:25
wordapokryphos:  no :P12:26
apokryphosword: I guess the I/O problem could be down to a buggy enterprise volume manager package then, not sure. When was the last time you upgraded?12:26
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wordi didn't upgrade i killed the partition i had linux on and did a fresh install of lkubuntu dapper12:26
wordI did it uh 3 days ago12:27
apokryphosword: try doing a dist-upgrade now, and see if the problem persists.12:27
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Jack_SparrowWhat is the easiest way to backup your full kubuntu partition?12:27
worda dist-upgrade? o.O12:27
Jack_Sparrowdd it to another partition?12:27
apokryphosword: hard to know what's really going wrong without the exact error output12:27
apokryphosword: yup, just: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:28
apokryphosor you can use adept12:28
wordit happens before copy the os starts so can't exactly copy paste :P12:28
apokryphosFetch updates, then full upgrade, or whatver it's called12:28
apokryphosword: yeah, I understand12:28
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wordapokryphos: There was nothing to upgrade :-/12:31
wordand these problems started after i ran the live cd version of gparted to resize my partitions...before doing anything it scanned for bad sectors and told me i had one...then i ran another program and it said ididnt...then i went back into linux and i found these probs..12:32
apokryphosI forget what the setup of the startup of kubuntu is like12:32
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apokryphosdo you have a /var/log/boot.msg?12:32
wordjust tried to open it in kate...it opened but it's blank12:33
apokryphosdoesn't exist then12:33
apokryphoshm, can't really do anything without knowing the exact errors really, I'm afraid12:33
apokryphossounds like a bug though12:34
wordWell i suppose it could also have coincided with a kubuntu update....12:34
wordI believe i updated kde-desktop right before all this started o.O12:34
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StRhi there.. anyone has ben able to run XGL with kubuntu?12:36
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obscuriteAnyone know how to disable the bluetooth daemon? If I try to apt-get remove kdebluetooth it says it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop.12:37
ShastaMaroonWhat is the kubuntu equivalent of synaptic?  adept?12:38
Kadranobscurite: try remove blutooth from adept12:38
obscuritekadran - sorry... adept?12:39
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apokryphosShastaMaroon: yes12:40
ShastaMaroonthanks12:40
siljeDo anyone know if there are any kernel updates in the newest kubuntu version12:41
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Kadranobscurite: never mind the add/remove manager12:42
siljeKubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper drake)12:42
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obscuritekadran - checking kcontrol. not seeing much yet12:42
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Kadranobscurite: oh sorry i have mixed up12:43
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Kadranit is adept_installer12:43
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Kadranobscurite: type kdesu adept_installer12:43
Bilfordtj9991, did your storage problem magically fix itself yet12:43
NF4hello I installed kubuntu today useing synaptic from ubuntu every thing went smooth expect now  under gnome the logout dosent have any options like reboot,shutdown,logout ect..12:43
NF4is there any way to fix that12:44
tj9991Qill12:44
tj9991stop pasting the same thing12:44
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BilfordIm never going back to Toadwater12:44
Death2Peerhow do you add repositories in Kubuntu ?12:44
Bilfordpaste it into your sources list12:44
Death2Peer*n00b question here* and where is that?12:45
ChousukeDeath2Peer: you can use adept for that I think12:46
r0xzDeatch2peer: be moddifying /etc/apt/sources.list12:46
Chousukeit's a nice GUI for package management12:46
r0xz*by (sry, &drunk; )12:46
ShastaMaroongoddamn ATI made their stupid window so tall without scrollbars I can't get to ubuntu and hit ok12:48
jochalt-drag it12:48
ShastaMaroonah, nifty12:49
ShastaMaroonits still a huge window12:49
ShastaMaroonwhat were they thinking?12:49
jochgood question12:49
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domprobably that they could afford to fire a bunch of UI designers12:49
BilfordHow do I make Konversation windows transparent12:49
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BilfordHow do I make Konversation windows transparent using Alt+F312:51
obscuriteKadran - adept removed kubuntu-desktop. fortunately i knew to check this and re-installed it12:51
obscurite(also i don't have a customized desktop to lose, so no big deal)12:51
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petrikhas anyone had any experience of not being able to get to admin mode because of some dcopserver error?12:52
Kadranobscurite: oh i am sorry for this i ment 'kdesu adept_installer', and search for blutooth12:52
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obscuritekadran, only see adept-updater and adept. nothing like adept_installer on apt12:53
Kadranobscurite: press 'alt+F2' then type 'kdesu adept_installer'12:55
Kadranit will start the add/remove programs and will safely remove the bluetooth12:55
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obscuritekadran - command adept_installer not found12:56
obscuritekadran - i'm on breezy. are you on dapper or something?12:56
Kadranobscurite: yes i use dapper12:57
obscuritekadran - that's probably it12:57
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Kadranobscurite: i c, is breezy is more stable than dapper?12:57
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MacSlowre12:59
obscuritekadran - i havne't used dapper yet. it's never crashed on me in about 3-4 months though01:00
Jack_SparrowHow long should it take superkaraumba to load liquidweather for the first time?01:00
skipster23question- in my add romove programs some of the stuff is gray, how can i activate them to be installed01:00
obscuritekadran - how stable has dapper been for you?01:00
MacSlowIs there any special trick needed to get kwin's built-in compositing-manager to start-up with nvidia's closed source driver?01:00
KadranJack_Sparrow: around 2 min01:00
Jack_Sparrowthanks01:00
Kadranobscurite: i think it 's great i was using mandriva and now i can't live with out kubuntu01:01
Kadrani hated the lazy update in mandriva01:02
MasterEvilAceKUUUBUNTUUUU01:03
skipster23in adept installer some of the programs are grayed out how can i activate them to be installed01:04
Kadranis there is a program that works like stardict?01:04
Kadranskipster23: i have some grayed but the are grayed because they conflict with some installed other programs01:04
skipster23well i would like to get GStreamer to work so i can listen to mp3's01:05
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Kadranskipster23: you can try xine if it is ok?01:06
visik7hi01:06
visik7i've 2 wireless config one at home and one at uni01:06
visik7(campus)01:06
skipster23nope it's grayed too01:06
visik7how can I manage this 2 config01:07
visik7?01:07
Kadranskipster23: ok let's try this, open the konsole and try to install the pkg you want in command line to see which pkg prevent it from being installed01:08
r0xzvisik7: kwlan?01:09
r0xzhttp://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3704101:09
visik7r0xz: kwlan handle wpa ?01:09
r0xzvisik7: yes01:10
visik7it isn't in dapper01:10
visik7handle dapper wpa config ?01:10
visik7I've a config wpa-options in interfaces01:10
skipster23E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:11
skipster23E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:11
skipster23Reading package lists... Done01:11
skipster23Building dependency tree... Done01:11
skipster23E: Couldn't find package gstreamer01:11
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Kadranskipster23: oh that's why they are all grayed01:13
obscuriteOn the default breezy kubuntu install I was running about 500mb with a handful of programs running. after turning off unneeded services I'm using 403mb of ram running 3xkonsole, gimp, inkscape, monodevelop, apache/mono, xchat, xmaxima, 2xfirefox, kcontrol, gaim, kontact, oo writer01:13
obscuriteamazing what a little tweaking does01:14
r0xzvisik7: knetworkmanager can do it also01:14
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r0xzvisik7: knetworkmanager is in repository01:14
Kadranskipster23: you are opening adept in user mode not super user mode01:14
Kadrantry this 'kdesu adept'01:14
visik7r0xz: doesn't handle 8021X01:14
visik7only wpa01:14
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r0xzvisik7: i've no experience with 8021X, sry01:18
visik7r0xz: wpa_supplicant handle it and also interfaces(5)01:18
visik7maybe I've to undestand mapping under interfaces(5)01:19
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steven_apokryphos->Are you online?01:25
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steven_I finally got the theme manager figured out. But the Redmond splash screen wont work for some reason. What gives?01:27
steven_No splash screen seems to work actually.01:27
obscuriteanyone notice that kde themes seem to have more "lines" than gnome? i was using a metacity theme on gnome that seemed cleaner. i think i prefer kde, but i wonder if i'll find a theme that's as visually clean01:31
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steven_Ok, probably a really stupid question but how do I change my name?01:34
mardiKadran: thanks for your help with skype01:34
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Kadranmardi: you are welcome any time01:35
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M00N3DNevermind01:35
mardiSkype works now but Konqueror keeps taking over /dev/dsp, i have to killall konqueror to reconnect between calls01:36
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ubuntuhello?01:36
ubuntuanyone here?01:36
MasterEvilAceno01:36
ubuntui need help01:36
obscuritemardi - is there a setting in skype to make it respect and use artsd?01:36
MasterEvilAceokay what is it01:37
ubuntuthe install won't work01:37
MasterEvilAceany errors?01:37
ubuntui'm on the kubuntu beta 2 live cd and when i click next it just closes01:37
mardiobscurite: not that i can see01:37
obscuritemardi - i had that same problem in gnome with apps competing for audio. the trick was to use the gnome audio manager (which is only supported by some apps, not all)01:37
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ubuntuhas anyone had that before?01:37
ubuntuwhy would it just close?01:38
obscuritemardi - in both kde and gnome, apps that don't use the desktop specific audio manager are going to have audio problems01:38
siljei have a old kernel, that doesnt quite support my hardware01:38
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ubuntui'm on the 64 bit version01:38
siljei cant get internet01:38
siljeneither wired or wireless works01:38
siljebut i tried another distro01:38
ubuntui also tried SuSE 10 and that woudn't work either01:38
mardiobscurite: i'll try it with oss -m ./skype?01:38
ubuntui got this error, and i checked the cd's and they were fine01:38
siljeit worked, because it was running 2.6.14, wich works, 2.6.15 gives me a error when i boot it, so it wont install01:39
siljebut ive managed to install a old kernel01:39
silje2.6.1201:39
siljebut as I said before01:39
siljeit doesnt support neither of my network cards01:39
siljehow is it possible to upgrade kernel01:39
obscuritemardi - i think you need to use the artsdsp command01:39
mardiobscurite: oh oh yeh, that one01:40
siljeiv downloaded a kernel01:40
siljeon another computer01:40
siljeand burned it01:40
siljedo i need compilator programs?01:40
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M00N3DOk, how exactly do I go about setting Konversation automatically enters my password to the server on startup?01:41
jochsilje: you need make, gcc, libc6-dev etc.01:41
obscuritesilje - build-essentials01:41
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obscuritewhy would you need to "burn" a kernel?01:41
obscuriteno network support on your install target?01:42
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Vosecan I get Java web start for adept?01:45
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obscuriteanyone have any trouble with amarok on breezy?01:49
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goldenearobscurite: which version of amarok ?01:51
obscuritegoldenear - 1.3.1 but i have a lead now01:53
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goldenearobscurite: you should upgrade your system01:55
obscuritegoldenear - got 1.3.1 to work in the meantime01:56
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akramhi*01:58
Kadranhi01:59
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Kadranguys i have 1.4.0 and it work fantastik02:00
Kadrani think obscurite it is the time to upgrade02:00
obscuritekadran - is there a package? or did you download and build?02:02
Kadranobscurite: i have added the kde respoteries from source-o-matic02:03
Kadranand it works cool02:04
obscuritekadran - cool, i'll check it02:04
kkathmandoes anyone have a suggestion of an OSS proggie that will allow me to view all pictures in a directory and zoom in, and then move/delete them ?02:04
kkathmanother than konqueror :)02:04
Kadrankkathman: i think you can use Gwenview02:07
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mardiCan anyone tell me how to restart ALSA/sound server?02:07
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obscuritemardi - killall artsd02:07
mardiI just turned off Skype (working fine) and now the microphone is still "on".. can hear the computer and stuff through the speakers.02:08
mardiThe killall artsd didn't do the trick02:09
Kadranmardi: mute the mic in kmix02:09
obscuriteokay, i am doing an apt-get upgrade from backports. amarok is being updated but i'm not sure if it'll be 1.402:09
mardiKadran: Will we have to do that every time?02:09
|brad|add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main    to the source list02:10
|brad|there is an offical package02:10
obscuritebrad - ahh ok02:10
Kadranmardi: no just stop the mic sound to apear in the speaker, it will still be loud02:11
obscuritebrad - darn, nothing for breezy :)02:11
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|brad|nope, the main site said packages from dapper02:12
mardiKadran: Aaaah, beautiful, wish we could do the same on the XP machine upstairs. :P02:12
|brad|from = for.... i spent too much time in the sun today02:12
VoseI am trying to install (My first unixe app install) Java web start it said to "cd usr/java" to creat folder but when I try that comand I get the error folder does not exist?02:13
Kadranis there is a frontend for festival?02:16
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visik7anyon e use knemo ?02:24
Kadranvisik7: i like AIO theme in superkaramba more than knemo02:25
Kadrani think it 's for windows user02:25
intelikeyi can't seem to get konsole to open a bash session from the menu or shortcut icon.   it only opens  /bin/sh    i can then type bash  and have a bash session,   i have set the  settings > config konsole > session    to execute /bin/bash  and session=linux console   but it's still /bin/sh when it starts....    any help ?02:26
visik7i don't like superkaramba02:26
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intelikeyi even tried rm /bin/sh   and made a shell warper called /bin/sh  that read  /bin/bash $*      but konsole seems to have a test of some sort that won't let it start sh if it's not a symlink02:29
Kadranintelikey: check user settings02:29
intelikeyKadran more info ?02:30
intelikeyuser settings   where Kadran ?02:30
Kadranopen 'user & groups' and check if the default shell is /bin/bash02:30
Kadranyes from the system settings02:31
intelikeyhmmmm i don't have any such app02:31
Kadrando you use dapper?02:31
intelikeyyea02:31
Kadrantype systemsettings02:32
Kadranor go forward for kuser02:32
intelikey$ systemsettings02:33
intelikey /bin/sh: systemsettings: not found02:33
h3sp4wn /bin/sh is bash02:33
intelikeyno it's dash02:33
intelikeyit is a symlink02:33
Kadranit 's a symlink to bash actually02:33
intelikeycould be bash dash tcsh.....02:33
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intelikeyno it's a symlink to dash    here.02:34
Kadranintelikey: 'kdesu kuser'02:34
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h3sp4wnexec sh && echo $SHELL (I get /bin/bash)02:34
intelikey kuser02:34
intelikey /bin/sh: kuser: not found02:34
luksanintelikey: install kdeadmin02:34
obscuriteanyone use an irc client aside from xchat for kde?02:35
intelikeythat's not desireable.  or nessary.   i don't even have to use konsole.   but thanks for the  "long answer"  anyway.02:35
obscuritesomething with kde integration might be fun to play with (like to display what's playing in amarok)02:35
luksanobscurite: Konversation02:35
obscuriteluksan - cool thanks02:35
luksanno integration with amaroK02:36
orangeyobscurite: konversation.02:36
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obscuritehow do you think konversation compares to xchat02:36
luksanobscurite: i just like the KDE integration, i don't know how much different it is02:37
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Janitux:D02:37
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Lt-Elmoevening all02:40
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neofax99Hello everyone!02:41
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Lt-Elmo:)02:41
Lt-Elmonew kubuntu user here02:42
neofax99having a problem with ndiswrapper on Dapper rc1 with a WG111 usb nic02:42
Kadrangood night every one, :)02:43
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NewToKubuntuhow come the uname -r and uname -m give me two different versions  of my machine ....one says 386 and other one says 68602:50
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NewToKubuntudoes anyone know ?02:51
KyralArch vs. what it was compiled agains02:51
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NewToKubuntuthanks Kyral02:52
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rexykik!nvidia02:54
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia02:54
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rexykikdid that and it doesn't work :(02:54
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buldiirc.homelien.no02:58
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visik7anyone is able to enable context submenu on knemo icons ?02:59
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UzzaDeadanyone available to give some help on getting my wireless card going? i've tried the wiki and such but no luck03:19
PyroMithrandir!wireless03:21
ubotuwireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers03:21
PyroMithrandirhave you tried those, UzzaDead?03:21
UzzaDeadindeed i have..03:21
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UzzaDeadit loaded the driver but it was supposed to state the hardware was present and it didnt so im stumped03:21
UzzaDeadand its also pcmcia not PCI so i dont think lspci would list my card, being a relative noob doesnt help :)03:22
PyroMithrandirwell, I don't have experience with linux and wireless, so I can't help you03:22
UzzaDeadthanks anyway03:23
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obscuriteanyone know of a konversation package for breezy?03:30
obscurite(0.19)03:30
obscuritei saw a .deb on the konversation project page, but wasn't sure if i should attempt it03:31
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ctothejhey fellas, my kubuntu dapper installer keeps hanging on me. is there anything i can do?03:38
ctothejim on the live cd now, performing the install from here03:38
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obscuriteanyone find that memory requirements are greater or less in dapper vs breezy overall?03:43
crimsungreater.03:43
crimsunmore bling, more memory required.03:43
obscuriteis that only if you set up xgl, or by default?03:43
obscuritenot xgl necessarily, but whatever the new eye candy is03:44
crimsunby default03:44
obscuritehmm, i wonder how much. every app i could want to run fits in about 525mb right now.03:44
obscuriteI'm thinking about getting a small machine that has 512mb03:45
obscuritenot that 512mb is bad, just that i run a ton of apps and dont want to swap like mad :)03:46
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ctothejI get this error when installing: "failed to create a file system". help would be much appreciated03:49
PyroMithrandirctothej, sounds like it's a problem with your hard drive03:50
PyroMithrandircould it be a bad drive?03:51
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ctothejIts a SATA hard drive. It should be able to handle it right? It says creating ext3 file system ... SCSI4 (0,0,0) sdb03:52
ctothejive used it before so i dont think so03:52
FHX=.= how long does it take to upgrade to dapper?03:52
PyroMithrandirctothej, well, if you've used it before then I don't know, man03:53
PyroMithrandirctothej, you could try a different file system, and see if it can use reiser or something03:53
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ctothejdoes the installer have problems with sata?03:56
PyroMithrandirnot that I know of03:56
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mike__Bonsoir a tous!04:00
WhiskyWhats Kubuntu? Whats different from Ubuntu ?04:01
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mike__using konkeror04:01
mike__not gdm04:01
Jack_SparrowWhat is the best program for wecam or video chat?04:02
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james_xxxi am running kubuntu and have six desktops configured... but oddly, when i swich to desktop two, i have gnome instead of KDE and i cannot figure out how to switch it back. would anyone have a suggestion?04:02
mike__Someone  can help me? I just installed kubuntu but my mic don't work04:02
Whiskymike__: Cant you just install KDE on Ubuntu? KDE+Ubuntu=Kubuntu ?04:02
MasterEvilAceKubuntu comes with KDE yeah04:02
macdKDE+Ubuntu = Kubuntu = Gnome04:03
macdKubuntu + Gnome04:03
WhiskyGnome? Where did that come from04:03
macdmy mistake :P04:03
macdUbuntu typicly has gnome ....unless you choose the ubuntu server setup04:04
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mike__Whisky: No there is much more than that! there is many things more I used ubuntu but I like more kubuntu04:04
macdso KDE + Ubuntu would = Kubuntu + Gnome....04:04
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RandomDude15hey I need help04:04
mike__hi RandomDude1504:05
robotgeekRandomDude15: ask away04:05
Whiskyk :P04:05
RandomDude15k. I can't seem to get on downloads sent on badongo.net in firefox.04:05
RandomDude15and I get on them in windows.04:05
mike__robotgeek: I just installed kubuntu and my mic don't work do you know what I can do ?04:05
RandomDude15and I'd like to hava java installed in firefox too and make my GTK programs look good in KDE.04:05
RandomDude15if its not too much trouble I'd like that.04:05
robotgeekRandomDude15: "ping badongo.net"04:05
robotgeekmike__: is it unmuted in kmix04:06
RandomDude15I can get on badongo but my friend uploaded something for me on it.04:06
RandomDude15and I can't get it.04:06
mike__robotgeek:  YES04:06
RandomDude15http://www.badongo.net/vid/13163404:06
jessica__you need to activate full duplex.04:06
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jessica__RandomDude15: to make GTK apps look better then garbage get dapper, it uses your KDE theme as the theme for GTK04:07
james_xxxthis is weird, on desktop number 2 i have the GNOME desktop with the KDE panel... i wish i knew how the heck to fix that04:08
RandomDude15ok but how do I get java on firefox?04:09
robotgeekRandomDude15, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:09
PyroMithrandir!java04:09
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs04:09
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james_xxxok now i switched to having one desktop and all i have is NOME with NO panel at all04:11
james_xxxGNOME04:11
RandomDude15does that install it into firefox too?04:11
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crabgrassadept has problems with interactive text responces04:12
james_xxxok i could use some help here04:13
james_xxxmy panel is gone and i have a GNOME sektop... and the frame for this window is gone04:13
james_xxxi think i need to reboot but i can't04:14
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robotgeekRandomDude15: yes04:15
james_xxxgeesh04:15
robotgeekjames_xxx: alt + f204:15
robotgeekkonsole04:15
james_xxxrobot, that gives me the command line but no panel04:15
james_xxxok04:16
james_xxxok how do i shut down from the terminal04:16
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mike__someone know why my mic don't work? I just installed kubuntu04:16
RandomDude15hmmm.04:17
RandomDude15I have a mic too dude.04:17
RandomDude15is it a headset mic?04:17
RandomDude15Mine is.04:17
james_xxxi am having very serious problems lol04:17
RandomDude15just type reboot?04:18
james_xxxi can't close any of these windows... or move them04:18
robotgeekjames_xxx: type alt+f2, then type kwin04:18
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james_xxxrobotgeek: i will have to wait until what you typed scrolls up. i can't see it right now04:19
Ahmuckum, wow, i just killed kubuntu big time04:19
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Ahmucki need some help understanding what happened04:19
Dasnipa`what did you do? sudo rm /*04:20
Ahmuckno, i removed xine and xine related stuff.  seems that that is tied into kdm/x04:20
james_xxxthis is really crazy04:21
james_xxxkubuntu meltdown04:21
Ahmuckanyhow, i have no menu04:21
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james_xxxrobotgeek: ok that did it... but i still have the GNOME desktop running on desktop 2... how do i change that back to KDE like the other desktops?04:22
Dasnipa`you sure you just removed xine stuff? and not anything related to x?04:23
Ahmuckwell i tried to remove the xine stuff.  it asked if i wanted to shut down kdm and i said yes04:23
Ahmuckyes, i would say stuff related to x04:23
robotgeekjames_xxx: not sure what you did04:24
robotgeekAhmuck: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:24
Ahmucki am working on the same system where it happened, but i don't have a taskbar, or any kde menu04:24
Ahmuckrobotgeek: what happened.  i don't understand how kdm would be tied to xine04:24
james_xxxrobotgeek: i don't think i did anything. i have 5 desktops that are KDE , but desktop number 2 is GNOME, but with a KDE panel04:24
robotgeekjames_xxx: what do you mean deskotop 2 is gnome?04:25
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robotgeekAhmuck: not sure what you did, but installing kubuntu-desktop will give you back Kubuntu04:25
erofeehi all04:25
erofeehow much effort will it be to upgrade from breezy to 6.06?04:26
james_xxxrobotgeek: ok, i am running kubuntu, and i have it configured to have 6 desktops.... but for some strange reason, when i go to desktop #2 now, i have a GNOME desktop04:26
erofeejust a simple apt-get or something more complicated?04:26
robotgeekhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades erofee04:27
PyroMithrandirjames_xxx, desktops within KDE or desktops like xsessions?04:27
nalioth!upgrade04:27
ubotuI guess upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.04:27
james_xxxPyroMithrandir: desktops within KDE... like you click on in the panel04:27
erofeegreat, any idea how long it will be before it is officially released?04:28
PyroMithrandirjames_xxx, in what way is desktop #2 a gnome desktop?04:28
james_xxxPyroMithrandir: it looks like GNOME it acts like GNOME...... it is UBUNTU instead of KUBUNTU04:28
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james_xxxPyroMithrandir: but that is only desktop number 204:29
james_xxxAND... the panel in desktop number 2 is the KDE panel04:29
PyroMithrandirjames_xxx, that's really wierd04:29
james_xxxPyroMithrandir: REALLY weird04:29
PyroMithrandirwait, if the panel is the KDE panel that's not really gnome, then, is it?04:29
james_xxxPyroMithrandir: maybe not, but the desktop itself is totally GNOME...04:30
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PyroMithrandirjames_xxx, the desktop background picture? or what? can you take a screenshot?04:30
james_xxxPyroMithrandir: if i right-click on the desktop, i get GNOME menus, not KDE04:31
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james_xxxi could try to do a screen shot04:31
erofeejames_xxx, i think that is very cool04:31
PyroMithrandirjames_xxx, you'll have to excuse me for being confused, I've never heard of anything like this before04:31
erofeei wish i could have a gnome desktop amongst my KDE's04:31
Ahmuckis there a way to get apt-get to run without the cd.  i seem to have misplaced it04:31
james_xxxPyroMithrandir: hey, this si new to me , too04:31
PyroMithrandirjames_xxx, does it stay like this if you log out and log back in?04:32
PyroMithrandirAhmuck, yeah, apt-get doesn't need the CD at all04:32
erofeeAhmuck: not sure what you are talking about04:32
Ahmuckit is requesting the cd04:32
PyroMithrandiroh, you want to turn that off?04:32
AhmuckMedia Change: Please insert the disc labelled04:32
Ahmuck Kubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Beta i386 (20060420)04:32
Ahmuckin the drive /cdrom/ and press enter04:32
james_xxxPyroMithrandir: i will check and see. i have a screen shot now, where should i send it?04:32
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PyroMithrandirit won't give you any problems, Ahmuck, it'll just ask for it04:33
PyroMithrandirjames_xxx, DCC it to me04:33
erofeejust hit enter04:33
erofeeAhumck04:33
james_xxxPyroMithrandir: lol i have no idea what DCC is04:33
Ahmuckit won't let me past that no matter how many times i hit enter04:33
robotgeekor you can use pastebin04:33
PyroMithrandirjames_xxx, it's file transfer over IRC04:33
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robotgeek!paste04:34
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 04:34
robotgeekjames_xxx: use that url for images too04:34
PyroMithrandiryeah, that'll work fine :)04:34
erofeeAhmuck: load up adept and edit your repositories04:34
james_xxxrobotgeek: ok04:34
erofeeremove the entry for the cd rom04:34
erofeei think that will fix it04:35
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Ahmuck/$ sudo adept04:35
Ahmucksudo: adept: command not found04:35
PyroMithrandirAhmuck, try synaptic04:36
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erofeeare you using KDE?04:36
Ahmuckyes04:36
Ahmuckhow do i start k3b04:36
Ahmuckit would be in the /usr/bin correct ?04:37
Ahmucker, kb3 ?04:37
erofeein your start menu under system (that is where you find adept04:37
erofeek3b is in multimedia in the start menu04:37
erofeesorry, the K menu04:37
james_xxxPyroMithrandir: here is the screen shot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1488204:37
PyroMithrandiryeah, or you can just type k3b04:37
Ahmuckbleh, no go either04:37
erofeethat'll work04:37
PyroMithrandirin a terminal04:37
erofeeor press alt+f2 and type it in there04:38
PyroMithrandirjames_xxx, did you run nautilus on that desktop?04:38
Ahmuckk, how do i edit the apt-get repository using nano04:38
PyroMithrandirsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list04:38
PyroMithrandirand comment out the CD one04:39
PyroMithrandirwith #04:39
erofeecan't remember the exact file, let me have a quick dig04:39
james_xxxPyroMithrandir: this will sound dumb, but how do i run nautilus04:39
PyroMithrandirwell, nautilus is the gnome file browser04:39
PyroMithrandirand it is also what manages the desktop icons and stuff in gnome04:40
erofeethe file you need to edit is /etc/apt/sources.list04:40
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james_xxxPyroMithrandir: yeahm i know but i don't think i can access it. i have a KDE panel with a KDE meno.... but the desktop itself is GNOME, and if i right-click on the desktop , i get GNOME options04:40
Ahmuckya !04:40
PyroMithrandiryou'd run it by typing nautilus into a terminal or if there is a nautilus icon in one of the menus...04:40
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Ahmuckwell i am re-installing kubuntu destop, we will see how that goes04:41
Ahmuckbtw, wonder why bluetooth is in the base install ?04:41
erofeedid you install kubuntu directly, or installed ubuntu and download kde?04:41
PyroMithrandirjames_xxx, upon up a terminal and type killall nautilus04:41
james_xxxPyroMithrandir: yeah, i have nautilus up04:41
robotgeekjames_xxx: i think you have nautilus running04:41
PyroMithrandirah well04:42
PyroMithrandirthere you go04:42
PyroMithrandir:)04:42
erofeea lot of machines come with bluetooth nowadays04:42
james_xxxpyro, well no, i just stareted nautilis just now04:42
PyroMithrandiroh04:42
PyroMithrandirgeeze04:42
robotgeekjames_xxx: well, it is drawing the desktop, which gives you the gnome-menus04:42
PyroMithrandirI thought that the reason your desktop was like that was because nautilus was running04:42
Ahmuckerofee: kubuntu text beta 6.06 cd04:42
Ahmuckdirectly04:42
erofeeok04:42
erofeei am still on breezy04:43
james_xxxPyroMithrandir: ok killall did it, i have the KDE desktop back04:43
james_xxxlol04:43
Ahmuckthis is an easy recover however considering how i have tanked some other distros04:43
erofeeso if stuff i am saying doesn't make sense, that is why04:43
Ahmuckk, brb04:43
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PyroMithrandirjames_xxx, good. glad to know I'm right ;)04:44
james_xxxthat was crazy, but... it would be really cool to switch back and forth between KDE and GNOME with just a click04:44
erofeeyep, definately a cool feature04:44
erofeei would love to do it with other desktops too04:45
erofeei use edubuntu also04:45
james_xxxyeah, fluxbox xfce4 etc etc04:45
PyroMithrandirwell, it wasn't that he was really running all of gnome on that KDE desktop04:45
erofeeyeah04:45
PyroMithrandirthe desktop was just being drawing the desktop04:45
PyroMithrandirerm04:45
james_xxxPyroMithrandir: no, i wasn't ... GNOME desktop with KDE panel... really whacked04:45
PyroMithrandirnautilus was just drawing the desktop04:46
james_xxxyeah04:46
erofeeplus it would be a drain on swap space to have all dedsktops loaded and be able to switch04:46
skipster23i need to copy some codect to a write protected folder what sudo command do i use04:46
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PyroMithrandirerofee, you can run gnome and KDE side by side with multiple x sessions04:46
erofeei just sudo konqueror and do it like that04:46
james_xxxerofee: but is that not what they are going to be doing in edgy? with the whole 3D cube thing?04:46
PyroMithrandirit's not recommended to do it with the same user account04:46
nixternalsudo cp codecs /director/where/you/want/to/copy04:46
billytwowillyHi, anyone running dapper with xgl? I just tried the kororaa live cd and it is AWESOME!!04:47
skipster23thanks04:47
nixternalnp04:47
ctothejwhen I try to install, it keeps freezing on loading /install/initrd.gz . anyone know why?04:47
nixternalthx billytwowilly for reminding me...i want to dl and give it a try04:47
james_xxxyeah XGL is what i was thinking of04:47
PyroMithrandirbillytwowilly, try #ubuntu-xgl04:47
billytwowillythanks.04:47
PyroMithrandirI tried it out about 2 months ago04:47
PyroMithrandirit's really cool, but it wasn't integrated enough into KDE for my taste04:47
james_xxxis XGL just a special effect?04:48
PyroMithrandirwell, XGL is the X server04:48
PyroMithrandir!xgl04:48
ubotumethinks xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"04:48
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Ahmuckwell, it appears i am operating again, but crippled04:48
Ahmucki seem to have lost my taskbar configuration and my konversation configuration as well04:49
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Ahmuckk, it seems i have lost my settings, such as installed programs, etc.04:55
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ctothejwhy would my system freeze when loading /install/initrd.gz before an install?04:55
_nano_billytwowilly: sadly I'm not sure if it would work on my old ati radeon 7500 card :(04:56
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billytwowilly_nano_: it ran pretty good on my buddie's laptop, which has a roughly equivalent card...04:56
billytwowillywell, ever so slightly better card actually.04:57
_nano_billytwowilly: what was his card?04:57
Ahmuckheh, removing bluetooth from kubuntu also removes kubunt-desktop. :-(04:57
_nano_billytwowilly: wow this page claims it would work on my card!!04:57
billytwowillymobility 9500? 8700? I'm not sure.04:58
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_nano_billytwowilly: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL04:58
billytwowillyjust download the kororaa livecd and give it a try. it was awesome.04:58
_nano_billytwowilly: my graphics card is like 32MB but my ram is 1gb..i hope this would work..what do you think?04:58
billytwowillyI dunno. download the livecd and try it out;)04:59
billytwowillythen let me know.04:59
_nano_billytwowilly: yeah will do :)04:59
billytwowilly_nano_: I'm now curious, so message me when you figure it out;)04:59
_nano_billytwowilly: thanks for the pointer though :D04:59
imbrandon_nano_, i have onboard video ( intel 845g ) and it worked like a charm ( live cd )04:59
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_nano_billytwowilly: surely04:59
_nano_imbrandon: that's an integrated graphics card right?05:00
imbrandonyes05:00
_nano_imbrandon: wow that gives me hope :)05:00
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billytwowilly_nano_: no problem. it's awesome, you'll be impressed, just make sure to download the kde cd, not the gnome one, I downloaded the gnome one, which wasn't as cool as kde would have been;)05:00
jbgy88hello Newb here05:00
_nano_jbgy88: so am i...welcome to the club :)05:00
jbgy88thank you05:00
jbgy88thank god nice people05:00
bimberijust wait till we get going :P05:01
jbgy88ok then05:01
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jbgy88ok question sounds sad but i dont have Adept how would I install iot05:07
jbgy88it*05:07
jbgy88?05:07
erofeeapt-get05:07
_nano_sudo apt-get adept? (i use synaptic though)05:07
_nano_!adept05:07
ubotuadept is probably a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto05:07
jbgy88thank you?05:08
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jbgy88noooo its a how to on how to download things using it!05:08
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erofeesudo apt-get adept05:09
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jbgy88nope not working either05:09
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erofeetry sudo aptitude05:09
cfh_devWhat's a good dvd player for kde?  Something that supports dvd nav.05:10
p00qcfh_dev kaffeine05:10
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cfh_devWhenever I try to open Kaffeine, I get "kaffeine_part.desktop not found in search path"05:11
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jbgy88its really slow now using aptitude05:12
jbgy88Nothing Nada oh well i'll try it tomorrow05:13
Bilford_using  Alt+F3, how do you make the  windows transparent   in Konversation05:13
Bilford_or how do you make the  windows transparent   in Konversation, period05:14
_nano_lol erofee I did a mistake and you repeated it :P ...sudo apt-get install adept :P05:16
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mike__Someone know how to have more than one sound?05:21
_nano_mike__: you mean more than one sound apps running?05:24
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UzzaDeadanyone have a guide on updating/upgrading my kernel from 386 to 68605:28
imbrandonUzzaDead, just type "sudo apt-get install linux-686" then reboot, it does the rest for you05:28
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james_xxx#kubuntu-xgl05:29
james_xxxsorry about that05:29
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imbrandonjames_xxx, #ubuntu-xgl ;)05:30
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mike___nano_:  I found it thx05:33
UzzaDeadanyone know how i can switch from a 386 kernel to 686?05:34
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bimberiUzzaDead: sudo aptitude install linux-68605:37
bimberiUzzaDead: or use adept :)05:37
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Celestehi05:37
UzzaDeadbimberi i was trying to do the adept thing but was being stumped but i got it figured out i think, thanks anway :)05:37
CelesteI have a little question:05:37
james_xxxmy comp has a celeron d chip... would there be value in installing the 686 kernel? i havethe 386 installed05:37
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james_xxx?05:37
UzzaDeadprobably james_xxx05:38
bimberiUzzaDead: np05:38
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UzzaDeadCeleste whats the question?05:38
Celesteon my windows laptop are 50 GB of Data ... and I have a  Kubuntu Workstation also here05:38
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james_xxxUzzaDead: would it mess up my system if i switched to the 686 kernel?05:38
CelesteI do not have an external harddrive05:38
UzzaDeadjames_xxx i just switched from 386 to 686 i'll tell you in a sec05:38
james_xxxok05:38
UzzaDeadjames_xxx also does the celeron D support HT?05:39
Celesteso I wondered if I can use an ethernet cable and directly transfer the data from the windows XP laptop to the kubuntu workstation05:39
UzzaDeadCeleste sure you'd need to set up file sharing05:39
james_xxxUzzaDead: i don't think so, but i'm not sure05:39
CelesteUzzaDead, is this difficult?05:39
m5merp I just broke firefox trying to upgrade using the wiki's FirefoxNewVersion page.  One pre-existing quirk on my system is that apt-get update errors out saying 'failed to fetch' one of the universe packages.  the error on running firefox is that it can't open the libstdc++.so.5 shared object file... any ideas?05:39
UzzaDeadCeleste not very but i couldnt guide you05:40
UzzaDeadjames_xxx i dont believe it supports HT05:40
UzzaDeadand switching from 386 to 686 worked for me05:40
UzzaDeadno problems yet05:40
UzzaDeadCeleste give this a try05:40
UzzaDeadhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%2905:40
UzzaDeadthat looks like what you need/want to do05:41
UzzaDeadjames_xxx i'd say go ahead and switch to 68605:42
james_xxxsweet05:42
m5mnalioth: you think I should apt-get libstdc++5 if that's what FirefoxNewVersion is complaining it can't find?05:42
UzzaDeadmines ticking along just fine05:42
m5mand hiya by the way too :-)05:42
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Celestethank you UzzaDead05:42
UzzaDeadyou're welcome Celeste05:42
m5minstalling libstcd++5 did it, for anyone that was curious, it's unbroken now :-P05:45
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_nano_!xgl05:55
ubotuxgl is probably "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"05:55
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Ahmuckheh, removing kubuntu-desktop is interesting06:06
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Bilfordwhat happens06:06
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Bilfordcan you see the insides of your monitor06:06
Ahmuckno, but the adept notifier icon goes away.  i think it must be similar to rh-desktop06:09
Ahmucklike an icon package, etc.06:09
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robin_is there a list somewhere of whats new in 6.0606:15
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robin_hello?06:16
crimsunrobin_: there're wiki pages for the flights.06:16
Ahmuckinstalling xine-ui puts xine on the multimedia list twice06:16
robin_what the repository for wins32 codec06:18
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RadiantFirerobin_: you can use cypherfunk06:19
bimberi!codecs06:19
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories06:19
robin_not into that06:19
RadiantFirenot into easysource?06:19
RadiantFirehttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic I use this to make a sources list06:20
_chrisim using kde 3.4.2 on kubutu 5.10 and when i open konqueror in web browser mode and click on a link in a page it keeps popping up a dialog asking me if i want to save the linked page instead of going to the page. How can I fix this?06:20
robin_sorry i thought you where talkin dirty to me lol06:20
RadiantFirelol06:20
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deinwhats the terminal command for delete?06:21
bimberidein: rm06:21
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james_xxxok i switched to the 686 kernel, seemingly without a glitch06:31
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ctothej_how do i restart xserver?06:31
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mike__hi06:37
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mike__I cant mount my hard drive in stockage support06:38
robin_caan someone tell me what i need to do to get amarok to play mp3's?06:38
crimsunon breezy or dapper?06:40
robin_dapper06:40
_nano_!mp306:40
ubotuI guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:40
crimsuninstall libxine-extracodecs from multiverse (you also need universe enabled)06:40
Bilfordtj9991, when are you going to install Kubuntu06:43
mike__how can I mount my DG06:43
mike__HD*06:43
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steveklDoes KDE have a taskbar aplet that displays CPU temp?06:47
critterhey, does anyone know a program which will extract a .img file to the hard drive06:47
critteri tried using growisofs but it only lets me burn the image06:48
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steveklHm, you might be able to mount it with loopback06:49
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stevekl mount -o loop image.img /mnt/wherever/06:49
critterno dice06:51
steveklthen I have no clue heh06:51
steveklsorry06:52
critter:-/06:52
critterburning it is fine, but for the sake of some dvd-r's id prefre to extract some of the movies right to my hard drive06:52
steveklcritter: Well, some movie players can just play the .img file directly06:52
steveklcritter: I *think* mplayer and vlc can do that06:52
steveklActually i'm sure mplayer can06:53
critterhmmm06:53
critteralright i will check that out06:53
critterthat would be VERY convenient06:53
critterhey, steve, the mount -o did work06:55
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critteri mounted to a wrong area, that was my bad06:56
critterthanks for the advice06:56
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wordis it possible to run like a repair install of kubuntu? like...replace all the important files it needs to run but keep the config files and other packages?07:00
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MasterEvilAce`LTmy adept is saying it can't do anything because something is using it already. i \restarted, etc. nothing.07:05
RadiantFireMasterEvilAce`LT: sudo dpkg --configure -a07:05
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MasterEvilAce`LTdamnit07:10
MasterEvilAce`LTokay, i ran that command and my computer froze configuring vwdial? or wvdial or something07:10
MasterEvilAce`LTi think that's why adept never finished installing updates07:11
MasterEvilAce`LTanyway to make it not download that package07:11
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MasterEvilAce`LTwhomever helped me like 5 minutes ago..07:13
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MasterEvilAce`LTsigh.. trying it again07:17
imbrandonMasterEvilAce`LT, sudo dpkg --configure -a07:20
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wordis there a desktop recorder for linux?07:30
MasterEvilAce`LTbah :/07:30
wordi need it to prove that i'm not crazy and my kmenu bar really is freaking out07:30
MasterEvilAce`LTAnyone know how to STOP a package from installing using dpkg --configure -a ?? it crashes so i can'tuse apt-get period because ov wvdial or vwdial07:30
wordtry removing it?07:31
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wordsudo apt-get remove wvdial vwdial ?07:31
RadiantFireMasterEvilAce`LT: dpkg -r wvdial07:31
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ctothejanyone successful in getting dual head to work where you can move applications across multiple monitors?07:32
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ctotheji have dual head working, but i cant drag my applications across to the other screen07:32
MasterEvilAce`LTTY radiant, once again07:32
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MasterEvilAce`LTty Radiant! you have saved my kubuntu07:36
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MasterEvilAce`LTKUUUBUNTUUUU07:36
Vampislol07:36
RadiantFireyay07:36
VampisAnother dawn, another day07:37
RadiantFireits 1:38 am, I sh ould probably go to sleep07:38
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vinboy is there any way to improve java's performance?07:40
Vampisremove it07:40
Vampis:)07:40
VampisJava's always slow07:40
Vampis:D07:40
VampisRadiantFire: lol =)07:40
RadiantFirevinboy: no...07:40
vinboyok07:40
vinboythx07:40
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PtitGNU'lo07:45
Vampislo07:46
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PtitGNUIs there a way to install sun-java5-plugin with adept ? I'm asking this because debconf is configured by default in 'noninteractive' mode and licence of java is rejected automatically... If I change debconf to KDE, I can install sun-java5-plugin with apt-get but, if I try this in adept, it cannot open KDE dialog and show the licence in a dialog (with 'show details') but this dialog doesn't work and I must kill adept, unlock dpkg etc...07:50
RadiantFirePtitGNU: yeah, i had that problem 2, i gave up and used apt-get from cli07:52
PtitGNUyes, but apt-get in cli is not easy for beginners (like my father :p)07:53
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VampisPtitGNU: I find it easyer in cli then in gui-programs07:55
Vampisyou have more control07:55
RadiantFirePtitGNU: then install blackdown07:55
Vampisand when I started ubuntu there was only apt-get in cli07:55
RadiantFireit works fine07:55
Vampis:)07:55
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RadiantFireand I'm sure someone knows about the DLJ agreement crashing adept, thats the only one I know of07:55
VampisI know about it :P07:56
VampisBecause it happend to me, lol07:56
Vampis:)07:56
Bilford_tj9991, did you have any problems wit the installation07:56
wordIs there an app to record the screen?07:56
Vampisnot adept, it crashed everything for me07:56
Bilford_yes, press PrintScreen07:56
word:P I mean like video07:57
VampisI dont get why ppl use adept07:57
Bilford_yes07:57
Vampisits slow, takes longer07:57
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PtitGNUroot: that's not goood :o)07:58
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Bilford_word, Istanbul07:58
imbrandonword, google screencast , there are a few07:58
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Bilford_sudo apt-get istanbul07:59
PtitGNUVampis: yes, it's slower but some people prefers a gui (easyer)07:59
Bilford_Istanbul is a desktop session recorder for the Free Desktop. It records your session into an Ogg Theora video file. To start the recording, you click on its icon in the notification area. To stop you click its icon again.07:59
VampisI dont find it easyer07:59
Vampisjust two lines in cli and its done07:59
Bilford_It works on Gnome, KDE, XFCE and others.07:59
Vampisthe gui, find the shortcut, start it, press buttons here and there07:59
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Vampiswith cli you dont have to take your hands away from the keyboard :)07:59
sistarmy external dvd writer has recently decided to stop writing, and isn't mounting that reliabley either. Any tips on reconfigureing it?08:00
wordgoogle screencast? o.O08:00
Bilford_word, are you listening08:00
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wordYes i'm listening i'm installing istanbul right now08:00
Bilford_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screencast08:01
tulgaI installed xgl on compiz. working well expect taskbar and titlebar. howto fix these problems?08:01
sistarany thoughts?08:01
tulgaall application hasn't titlebar and taskbar always empty08:02
Bilford_where is Google Screencast08:04
sistarI'm lookin for somethin like kudzu, but aint findin nuttin08:04
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Bilford_did you search Ubuntu Forums08:07
Bilford_and Kubuntu forums08:07
Bilford_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119990&highlight=external+cd+writer08:07
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PtitGNUare there a way to say to debconf that I have already accepted the java licence ? (for an unattended install)08:10
Bilford_I have a shell script that changes my desktop wallpaper every 10 minutes and uses a live webcam shot08:10
_ODIN1odin1|home08:11
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humboltI still can't find no XEN kernel in ubuntu?!08:12
humboltI thought XEN will be part of the game?08:12
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_nano_billytwowilly: there?08:16
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_nano_!xgl08:18
ubotuxgl is probably "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"08:18
vinboyhi08:19
vinboywhat font settings do you guys use?08:19
billytwowilly_nano_: sup?08:19
billytwowilly_nano_: gtg, bbl08:21
billytwowillycheers08:21
wordimbrandon: why would the bottom bar go all freaky when i either docked a window on it or put a menu in full screen?08:22
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_nano_imbrandon: it worked like a charm (the kororra xgl) !08:28
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deinwhen do you guys think the final release of dapper will be out?08:33
nixternalt-208:34
nixternaljune 1, 200608:34
nixternal1 more day now08:34
deinhmm cool08:34
Vampishehe08:34
deinhow do i upgrade08:34
deinjust refresh my package list?08:34
Vampisdo u have dapper or breezy ?08:34
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deindapper08:35
Vampisjust update / dist-upgrade08:35
Vampisand you're fit for fight08:35
deindist-uprgrade?08:35
deinis that a command?08:35
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deinah i see it08:35
deinon apt-get08:35
Vampisuep08:36
deinanother question08:36
deinwait, nevermind ive already found that out08:36
deinlol08:36
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deinhmm08:38
deinis there a superkaramba package for ubuntu?08:38
Vampisyes08:38
Vampissudo apt-get install superkaramba08:38
nixternalisn't it just karamba in the repositories though?08:39
deinthanks vampris08:41
deinkubuntu is so much better than SuSE08:41
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Vampisdein: np :)08:45
Vampisnixternal: nope,.08:45
Vampishttp://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kde/superkaramba08:47
deinhow do you direct messages to people08:47
nixternalyup...don't know why i was thinking karamba...i might be going back08:47
nixternalway back obvously ;_08:47
deinor are you just typing dein:08:47
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bimberidein: your irc client will hilight lines with your nick in it :)08:47
Vampis:)08:48
Vampisbimberi: not neccecerly08:48
Vampisdepends on the settings :)08:48
bimberi:)08:48
Vampis*getting mor coffee*08:49
Vampismore*08:49
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Vampisback08:50
AdmiralFTWdoes anyone know how to fix the flash problem in linux? i know Flash 8 isn't available but is there some other way to get it to work08:50
AdmiralFTWi've been to a few sites that work only on Flash 8 so i'd like see them working08:50
Vampishm, i just installed flashplugin-nonfree08:51
deingo to ies4linux08:52
deinand have it install ie5 or 6 if you can08:52
deinthats the only way to see flash player 8 stuff in linux atm08:52
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vinboyshould I enable Logical volume manager (LVM) support in kernel?08:55
Vampisif you need it - yes, if you dont - no08:55
Vampis;)08:55
vinboyhow do I know if I need it?08:55
AdmiralFTWdein: ies4linux?08:56
deinyes08:56
deindo a google search and u should find the website08:56
AdmiralFTWcool, i didnt know it was a website08:57
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deinit tells you what you need to do on the website08:57
AdmiralFTWgah! IE, no thanks08:57
deinlol08:57
deinits not near as bad as usual when its running on linux08:58
deini  use it when i have stuff i cant do in firefox that requires activex scripts08:58
AdmiralFTWhmm. i might install it08:59
critterany developers around?08:59
AdmiralFTWlet me get a firewall up first, specifically to block IE internet access unless i give it permission08:59
AdmiralFTWanother thing09:00
deinit needs internet to install09:00
AdmiralFTWadept wont open because it messed up during an instillation09:00
deinit takes the files from microsoft09:00
AdmiralFTWhow can i fix it09:00
deinsudo apt-get check and maybe sudo apt-get autoclean09:01
AdmiralFTWno i think you misunderstood. i'll install it, but i'll have a firewall to block it from conneting unless i absolutle nood it to09:01
deinyou need it to09:01
AdmiralFTWerr09:02
AdmiralFTWnvm09:02
deinthe installer program actually uses the internet to install09:02
PyroMithrandiryeah, dein but AdmiralFTW is paranoid09:03
PyroMithrandirparanoid in that good, anti-microsoft sort of way09:03
deinlol i understand09:03
AdmiralFTWPyroMithrandir: thats it09:04
PyroMithrandirAdmiralFTW, do you have a swiss army knife? I can't remember09:04
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deinyou guys know that wine-tools used to be able to install IE for you from off the microsoft site, but then ms implemented the wga, and blocked linux users from downloading09:05
PyroMithrandirha, that's kinda horrible/great09:05
deinlol09:05
AdmiralFTWman i hate IE only sites09:06
deinya me too09:06
deinthankfully this fixes it09:06
AdmiralFTWlike you literally can't access them on Firefox09:06
deinaltho, the IE is buggy09:06
AdmiralFTWnah man, they dont need my visit if its IE09:06
AdmiralFTWit is IE09:06
deineh there are some places i need to go09:07
deinlike my comcast support site><09:07
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GodrinHi! I cannot play any mp3s with noatun or amarok though arts is working as I'm hearing system sounds. any ideas?09:12
PyroMithrandir!mp309:12
ubotusomebody said mp3 was a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:12
_nano_!mp309:12
_nano_lol09:13
PyroMithrandir:) beat ya to it09:13
_nano_:D09:15
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Godrinthanks a lot!09:18
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_nano_!samba09:24
ubotufrom memory, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html09:24
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crazy_penguingood morning everybody! :)09:42
Hobbseehi crazy_penguin09:42
crazy_penguina good dapper morning to all ! :)09:42
Bilford_tomorrow is the dapper morning09:43
Hobbsee@time09:44
UbugtuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: May 31 2006, 07:44:1109:44
Hobbseeyeah, good point..09:44
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imbrandonheya Hobbsee09:44
Hobbseehi imbrandon09:44
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_rince_mrgn09:46
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ririHi all :)09:50
ririanybody knows flumotion ?09:50
PyroMithrandirsome sort of streaming media server?09:51
PyroMithrandir(I just googled it, I have no experience with it)09:52
ririyes09:52
ririi want to see my webcam on internet09:52
ririflumotion have a planet.xml missing09:52
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PyroMithrandirwell, maybe someone else can help you09:53
ririis there any others ?09:53
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nixternal`zzzgood night all09:54
ririthe kubuntu version is too old they said to me in fluendo (the maker)09:54
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nixternal`zzznite riri ;)09:54
ririgood night09:54
ririzzz09:54
riritop09:54
ririlol09:54
ririi was wondering if you were already sleepin nixternal`zzz09:54
riristrange : sun java couldn't be installed yesterday but today i did it :)09:56
Bilford_is Canoncinal  planning a huge advertising blitz for Dapper?09:56
ririwith synaptic09:56
Bilford_CAnononcinaiinal09:56
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ririhi dein09:58
ririwie gets ?09:58
Hobbsee!de09:59
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de09:59
Hobbseetag riri09:59
Kmirnoriri: you know there is #ubuntu-fr for french people by the way09:59
HobbseeKmirno: i'd be surprised if that's french - looks like badly spelled german10:00
Hobbseeassuming gets is supposed to be gehts10:00
KmirnoHobbsee: he's french10:00
ririyes10:00
KmirnoHobbsee: but that was not french no huhu10:00
ririKmirno:10:00
Hobbseebah.  i'm terrible with languages - let me go hide in a corner :P10:00
riribut no answers ! lol10:00
Kmirnoriri: ah10:00
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ririso in this case better use english10:01
ririhobbsee: where from ?10:01
Hobbseeme?  australia10:01
ririhere plenty answers...lol10:01
noiesmogo aussie go10:02
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ririin fact i have just few little things to find "flumotion" and scim10:02
ririHobbsee:  that's why you said "tag" :) lol10:02
ririscim is working well on gaim10:03
Hobbseeriri: yes10:03
riribut not on kde10:03
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rirido you remember a guitarist : patrick obson ?10:04
visik7anyone using knemo ?10:04
ririhobbsee10:04
Hobbseeno10:04
ririHobbsee: i can't find it anymore... 197510:04
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ririsalut nano10:05
riri_nano_:10:05
_nano_hi riri10:06
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_nano_salut back at you :D10:06
ririxiexie10:06
_nano_now i hope that's not a smiley :-S10:06
ririmerci thanks in pinying10:06
ririchinese10:06
ririclever chinese: they learn latin caracters at schools10:07
_nano_hehe10:07
nolteto install vmware-tools i need to switch to a runlevel without X. is there a runlevel without X ?10:08
ririwho said that ?10:08
ririwmware tools are installing selfs ?10:09
ririselves10:09
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ririwell maybe depends of the host and guest :) nolte ?10:09
imbrandonnolte, init 310:12
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nolteriri: you're right, it looks like it depends on the guest system.10:13
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nolteriri: within suse guest i've to change to runlevel 310:13
ririnolte : i have kubuntu as host and xp as guest10:13
ririok10:14
ririi used to do it on suse 10.110:14
ririworked find and quickly10:14
riribut now kubuntu does it still better10:14
nolteriri: i don't like 10.1 so i'd like to slowly (vmware) switch to kubuntu10:15
visik7anyone using knemo ?10:15
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ririthat's what i did too...10:16
ririnolte : my problem to move was sharing internet as soon as i find firestarter to do it i could10:17
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nolteimbrandon: in /etc/rc3.d there's a S99kdm does'nt this need X ?10:18
nolteriri: I've some special Programs here I need for work. Have to test them, befor I make the switch10:18
ririsos... i want to remove skim (because messing scim) but there is a dependance which will remove kubuntu desktop : does this mean all kubuntu ?10:19
nolteriri: kubuntu as host and xp as guest, thats what i'd like to have in a few weeks10:20
ririnolte: yes...10:20
ririit works fine;..10:20
ririvery quick...10:20
riribut i have winlsd...10:20
ririi guess it's the same for other version10:21
ririfew little problems10:21
ririlike usb2 webcam10:21
riribut in kub i can use my webcam with amsn10:22
ririso i don't really mind10:22
ririwith kopete the image appears and disapeared10:22
ririi don't know why ?10:22
ririwith amsn first time a lot of adverts10:23
riristop it and restart and then the webcam works fine10:23
ririi tried few distros suse mandriva fedora and finally i am happy with dapper ... waiting for the final :)10:24
ririso i got rid of xp as dual boot10:25
Bilford_youre free10:25
Bilford_no more spending an hour looking for your Windows serial number10:25
ririlol10:26
Bilford_or Online Activation 10:26
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ririworse : in vmware asked you the serial :) lol10:26
Bilford_or Microsoft trying to monitor and control every aspect of your computerized life10:26
ririBilford_: i am lucky because i am retired ... even if french government is cheating us on pension ! lol10:27
Bilford_Ive never used VMWare10:27
vinboyyea10:27
Bilford_I went from 10 years of Windows straight to Linux a few weeks ago10:28
ririBilford_: just in case ...wlsd10:28
Bilford_what10:28
ririor cursedxp10:28
ririwinlsd10:28
Bilford_whats that10:28
ririthat's not really xp :)10:28
ririsome people are doing better job10:29
Bilford_the only thing I use Wine for now is QuickPar10:29
visik7right click on knemo doesn't work for me10:29
Bilford_for some reason, I cant seem to find a Linux graphical par2 repair tool10:29
visik7and for you ?10:29
ririwinlsd 3.5 is an xp with sp210:29
ririmade by clever people10:29
ririwhat is par ?10:30
riripartition ?10:30
Bilford_for repairing files10:30
ririok10:30
Bilford_downloaded off Usenet, mainly10:30
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ririkubuntu's irc is so good that now i fix all my problems in one 8 week :)10:34
ririenglish irc... french one seems to be "mute" :)10:35
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deinhihi riri10:40
Bilford_does Konqueror have a text-search tool for the address bar10:41
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riridein : got it ?10:47
deingot what?10:49
ririyour java running ?10:50
ririthis morning I tried it with synaptic and had no problem10:50
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Bilford_interesting thread:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=689410:50
deinya i got it running10:50
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ririfor flash i went on adobe to get it10:51
deinthe normal packages are working now too?10:51
deinya i did that too and my flash works perfectly now10:51
ririseems so10:51
ririin fact flash is easy to install now from there..10:51
deinya i remember it used to be a pain10:53
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ririBilford_: yes... it remains me i can't use my printer on kubuntu10:54
riribut neither on xp vmware10:54
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ririit 's not a serious problem i have a network of two computer and i use my notebook for printing10:55
riricompletly switching is hard :)10:56
Bilford_are you sure you cant use it10:57
ririi can use it10:58
riribut only printing i have a all in one lexmark x7510:58
ririso i found drivers for the printing part10:58
riribut there is still lot of problem10:59
ririlike ajusting the cartridge10:59
ririso too painfull10:59
Bilford_I need to find a way of transferring files to my Dell Axim PocketPC10:59
ririif i would need it yes i would try to do it10:59
riridoes it work on xp ?11:00
Bilford_yes11:00
riridid you tried vmware ?11:01
ririor any emulator ?11:01
Bilford_No, Im not installing any form of Windows anywhere11:01
ririok11:01
ririi don't know pocket11:01
ririin fact i do the same for xp11:01
ririi preferred a linux solution11:02
ririusually if one can do it on xp one can do it on linux...11:03
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imbrandonits not usually , its they CAN , its just a matter of HOW and experince ;)11:05
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imbrandonheheh11:05
riritrue :)11:05
imbrandonBilford_, have your tried kpilot and such ?11:05
Bilford_not really11:05
imbrandonthat would be where i start11:06
Bilford_I read threads that didnt sound promising11:06
Bilford_ok11:06
imbrandoni dont have a pocket pc but if i did thats what i would use, i use it for all my palms11:06
imbrandonBilford_, there are bad threads about EVERYTHING most things you just have to try ;)11:06
Bilford_they all say it doesnt work11:07
riritry11:07
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Bilford_I guess it can be done if I jump through 100 hoops11:08
imbrandon100 hoops ?11:09
imbrandonBilford_, here is a howto i found in like 3 seconds on google about how to do pocket pc sync and linux11:10
imbrandonhttp://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/08/17/184722711:10
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Bilford_im here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172160&highlight=synce+dapper11:10
imbrandon^^11:10
riri11:11
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imbrandonthats one personals problems , best thing is to try and see if you come up with the same problems, if so theres the solution ;)11:11
imbrandonlike i said there is bad reports about everything, even *gasp* kubuntu ;)11:12
Bilford_ok, I'll try SynCE11:12
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ericthefishhas anybody else had any problems with their mouse cursor and dual screen?11:15
ericthefishwhen I move my mouse to my right hand screen past a window border my mouse cursor sticks with the 'resize window' cursor :(11:16
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Bilford_ugh... Im clueless about installing something thats not in the Add Program thing11:18
noltewhat i like to do is have 2 computers exact the same packets and versions installed. how do i export the packet database and import it into another computer ?11:18
chakie_workdpkg --get-selections or similar11:18
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chakie_workand then dpkg --set-selections < packages.txt11:19
Bilford_whos that for11:19
noltechakie_work: thanks for the hint, thats what i need.11:20
noltebilford: we've three machines here at work and they all need the same software installed. so i only need to setup one machine11:22
visik7I've 2 users one when rightclick on knemo icons in the tray open the context menu the other can't wtf ?11:28
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visik73.5.3 out ?11:37
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HymnToLifenot yet I think11:40
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armedkingAnyone know how i can add my home dirs and all that sorts of stuff on my desktop. Is there a tool.12:25
VampisMake a shortcut or what ?12:25
armedkingIn ubuntu there whas a tool for it so i could display mounted and unmounted drives and sutch12:25
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ericthefisharmedking: go to Settings/Desktop/Behaviour/Device Icons[tab] 12:29
armedkingericthefish: Tnx man12:31
ericthefishnps12:31
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n3stormhi everyone12:32
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uscg_coreyanyone here have bank of america?12:37
Lynourehmm, why? (No, I don't have)12:37
uscg_coreyi think they have a glitch in system or something12:37
uscg_coreyits showing my balance as $1.6312:38
uscg_coreyyet its $861.6312:38
Vampisyou've been hacked!12:38
Vampis:P12:38
uscg_coreywell it shows below as $61.6312:38
uscg_coreyer $861.6312:38
uscg_coreybut available balance is $1.6312:38
uscg_coreyits got to be some bug12:38
uscg_corey*shurgs*12:41
h3sp4wnCould have not fully cleared (hence its their but not available)12:42
uscg_coreynaw its been in there12:42
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uscg_coreywho knows12:42
uscg_coreyin the email i got w/ account balance it said $861.6312:42
uscg_coreyso it must be some kind of glitch12:43
uscg_coreyoh well work time12:43
Lynoureuscg_corey: Email with a login link? =) That's how I'd phish if I where a phisherwoman.12:44
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babyhey guys i have a question. can i install firefox 1.5.0.3 by using apt-get install command or how can i install firefox to my system ?12:55
Vampisyes12:55
Vampissudo apt-get install firefox12:55
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exhalehow come the firefox menus and stuff look so plain and ugly in KDE?12:59
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Vampisexhale: becuase you cant make the correct settings? ;)12:59
VampisI think it looks great01:00
exhalethen please enlighten me ;)01:00
exhaleit doesnt look as good as in ubuntu01:00
babyVampis : but it says firefox is already the newest version. How come? i have Firefox 1.0.8 version01:00
Vampisbaby: you have breezy I suppose01:00
babyyes01:00
baby5.1001:00
VampisThere you have it ;)01:00
exhalethen its time to upgrade :P01:00
Vampisin dapper you get 1.501:00
babyso how can i upgrade it01:01
Vampisto dapper ?01:01
VampisJust replace your breezy repositories to dappers01:01
babyto dapper or to Firefox 1.501:01
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Vampisor you can just download Firefox 1.5 from mozilla and install it01:01
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babydapper is the newest version right?01:02
Vampisyes01:02
Hobbsee|away!ping01:03
ubotupong01:03
Vampispung01:03
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toomaihi all01:03
Vampishi01:04
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babyVampis: in kubuntu.org says with adept select Manage Repositories and change brezzy's with dapper is that right cuz when i change it doesnt change01:07
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Vampisbaby: change and save01:08
Vampisthen update01:08
Vampisand then upgrade01:08
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SeveasHobbsee|away, ping01:14
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babyVampis: if i press full upgrade button will it upgrade all upgradable packages or all of the packages?01:21
Vampisall uppgradable01:22
babyok01:22
VampisSorry if I'm absent01:22
Vampisi'm cleaningh01:22
Vampis:)01:22
Hobbsee|awaySeveas: hey :)01:22
VampisHobbsee: !!01:22
Hobbseehi Vampis01:23
Vampiswhasa01:23
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_nano_Hobbsee: is your xorg version thingy resolved?01:24
Hobbsee_nano_: no idea.  oh well.  seems to show an odd version number still01:25
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_nano_Hobbsee: hmm01:25
rigonattihi all !01:25
_nano_hi rigonatti01:25
rigonatti_nano_:  If I found a compatibilitty issue in Kubuntu ..should I report?01:26
Hobbseerigonatti: what issue?01:26
rigonattiHobbsee:  Mysouund Card...01:26
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babyVampis: how can i download and install google talk01:29
rigonattiShould I01:29
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rigonattibaby:  You dont have gtalk to Linux01:29
rigonattibaby: Use Kopete, Gaim or Pysi to connect to Gtalk01:29
Hobbseerigonatti: file it on malone01:30
Hobbsee!bug01:30
ubotubugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs01:30
_nano_rigonatti: can baby use wine to run gtalk?01:30
_nano_rigonatti: just like picasa ;)01:30
rigonattiI dont think its a good Idea .. I mean..the good thing its use the protocol ...and you have a ready IM instead...01:31
babyno picassa now is on Linux01:31
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_nano_baby: it's the same old windows picasa being run through wine01:34
babyok i see01:37
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wincidehi all .. i'm in dapper and I'd like to run xgl + KDE 3.5.2 with an ATI radeon 9700 . Do someone knows a guide or manual to make this run . thx :)01:42
wincideall guides i found were for nvidia cards01:42
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Hobbsee!xgl01:43
ubotu[xgl]  "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"01:43
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_nano_Hobbsee: i tried kororra xgl demo CD (just to check if my old radeon 7500 is supported)...it worked like a charm!01:47
_nano_Hobbsee: and xgl is amazing!01:47
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klerfayt_nano_: not then you need 3d accel01:47
Hobbseecool, i've not tried it...01:47
_nano_klerfayt: i think xorg supports 3d accel for older radeon cards like mine01:48
klerfayt_nano_: xgl will disable 3d accel. for other applications on my card01:48
_nano_klerfayt: for newer ones...we have to use the ati binaries01:48
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_nano_klerfayt: xorg doesn't have inbuilt 3d accel for newer ati cards01:48
klerfayt_nano_: I'm saying that if you have xgl running then e.g. you can't play games that demand 3d01:49
cfraz89you can run them on another xserver though01:49
_nano_klerfayt: hmm...possibly...didn't try that :-?01:49
_nano_klerfayt: could you link me to a page that talks more about it?01:49
cfraz89klerfayt: there is a small proggy called xgame which will run them on another server for you01:50
_nano_cfraz89: so in other words, by default xgl locks up 3d accel for other apps?01:51
klerfayt_nano_: as far as I can understand it depends on hardware01:52
_nano_klerfayt: hmm...that i need to find out :-?01:52
klerfayt_nano_: so you might play quake with xgl like it was in novell's demo :)01:52
cfraz89_nano_: yes01:52
cfraz89buut aiglx lets you use 3d accel01:52
_nano_aiglx?01:53
_nano_!aiglx01:53
ubotu_nano_: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:53
_nano_rofl01:53
cfraz89lol01:53
cfraz89aiglx is competitor to xgl01:53
cfraz89it is part of xorg 7.101:53
_nano_kororra guys got in to legal trouble for shipping ati binaries in their distros :D01:53
cfraz89instead of being a whole new xserver, it is 3d support for xorg01:53
cfraz89except nvidia drivers dont support aiglx yet01:54
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_nano_cfraz89: a whole new world!01:56
cfraz89lol01:56
_nano_cfraz89: have been living in a cave :P but them with a meagre graphics card..i can't hope for more :P01:56
cfraz89its not THAT different lol01:56
cfraz89well both of them work even on a tnt2 m64 lol01:56
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cfraz89but for full advantage, pixel shader support is good01:56
Tallia1Kubuntu!nvidia01:57
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia01:57
_nano_cfraz89: so xgl runs on top of xorg, whereas aiglx is a part of it...01:57
_nano_cfraz89: that means i could turn off xgl and still keep working?01:57
cfraz89for aiglx yes01:58
cfraz89it can be turned on and off on the fly01:58
cfraz89i just wish the nvidia 9x drivers would hurry up and be released so i can try it01:59
cfraz89i like aiglx, but am developing a game so can't use it much01:59
_nano_cfraz89: for aiglx being a part of xserver, wouldn't that require a restart?01:59
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wincide!ati01:59
ubotuati is, like, totally, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI01:59
wincide!ati+xgl+kde01:59
wincide:P01:59
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, wincide01:59
_nano_lol01:59
cfraz89_nano_: no, sort of like composite now in x01:59
cfraz89when composite is only really enabled if you use a composite manager02:00
_nano_cfraz89: working on a game? nice! what kind?02:00
cfraz89vehicular deathmath lol02:00
cfraz89*deathmatch02:00
cfraz89automanic.sf.net02:00
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_nano_"focussing on cross-country carnage." lol ..true game speak! :D02:02
cfraz89lol haha02:02
cfraz89is it really?02:02
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_nano_cfraz89: hehe02:08
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HobbseeSeveas: ping.02:27
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Seveasyes?02:28
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HobbseeSeveas: see pm02:30
V3roAybody knows How change the name of pc?02:30
HymnToLifeV3ro> sudo hostname yourverycoolnewhostname02:31
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BladesonfireV3ro: the GUI way: K-Menu -> System Settings -> "Network Settings" (under Internet & Network) -> "Domain Name System" tab02:32
BladesonfireAnd that's why we use cli's =P02:32
HymnToLife:D02:32
V3roI need change the name from console02:32
V3roand... How Change the Domain and WorksGroup the pc, but from console02:35
Seantater_what does selinux do to be "security enhanced"?02:35
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V3roHymnToLife! how?02:37
HymnToLifeV3ro> domain is in /etc/hosts02:37
HymnToLifeworkgroup I don't know, I thought they were only for Winblows02:37
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_nano_cfraz89: you use xgl then?02:41
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cfraz89yes, sometimes02:44
cfraz89especially to impress friends02:44
V3roHymnToLife, thanks!02:44
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_nano_cfraz89: heh02:45
cfraz89will you try it out?02:45
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_nano_cfraz89: i want to ...i'm just afraid it doesn't my system02:50
_nano_*doesn't break02:50
cfraz89oh ok02:51
_nano_i think it would be better to try out aiglx...02:51
cfraz89probably02:55
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cromoI just noticed KDE 3.5.3 release and kubuntu release related. Anyone tried this yet? ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.3/kubuntu/02:58
cromoand why there's no info yet on kubuntu.org?02:59
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VampisBecause they havent made any kubuntupackages of it yet  ?02:59
cromoand neither on kde.org actually02:59
LinuxNewbieHello.02:59
cromoVampis: did you see the link I pasted?02:59
Vampisyes, ftp.kde.org02:59
Vampisaah02:59
Vampissorry02:59
Vampiskubuntu ;)03:00
Vampisthat i DIDNT see03:00
Vampis;)03:00
cromohappens ;)03:00
cromothis is actually the repository03:00
cromoI wonder why is it here, not deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest03:00
cromos/here/there03:00
LinuxNewbieWhere is a good website for Kunbuntu Newbies ? I am trying Linux for the FIRST time03:00
cromoLinuxNewbie: I'd rather recomend you some book03:01
LinuxNewbieI need to learn how to do the BASIC stuff like installing making shortcuts etc etc03:01
cromothough I don't know any ;)03:01
LinuxNewbiecromo: Book :(03:01
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Vampiskarin = german ?03:02
HymnToLifeLinuxNewbie> just /msg ubotu <something>03:02
karinja03:02
Vampisok03:02
HymnToLifeubotu knows everything :p03:02
ubotuHymnToLife: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:02
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LinuxNewbieDamn I am used to highlighting somethign and letting it be copied by mIRC03:03
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cromoso, anyone dare to try these 3.5.3 packages? :)03:04
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exhaleis anyone getting troubles getting kubuntu 6.06 to boot?03:10
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Ilokaasuexhale: i had some problems when i updatet from breezy03:11
Ilokaasubut when i made clean install from livecd it worked normally03:11
exhalei made a clean install from the special cd in text mode03:11
exhaledoesnt boot03:11
exhaleit starts all the modules and stuff but then i just end up with the kubuntu logo03:11
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cristianohi guys, i'd like to know how to make kdm accepting root access03:13
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cristianoi have kubuntu dapper03:14
HymnToLifecristiano> it's a very bad ide to do so03:15
HymnToLifeidea*03:15
cristianoso how to access root ?03:15
cristiano*as root03:15
Bladesonfirecristiano: sudo command03:15
Hobbsee!root03:16
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.03:16
cristianoyep i know but i want to access "graphically" since the startup of the system03:16
BladesonfireThat's extremely useful03:16
BladesonfireIn a GUI, try using kdesu03:17
cristianook thx03:17
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exhalehow come ubuntu boots just fine and kubuntu doesnt ? :/03:19
vinboywat error?03:20
BladesonfireHobbsee: how do I find out what other commands ubotu can take?03:21
Hobbsee!command03:21
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee03:21
HobbseeBladesonfire: ^03:21
BladesonfireThanks03:21
Bladesonfire!command03:21
vinboy!command03:21
Hobbseeit's http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/,03:22
Hobbseeit's http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:22
Bladesonfire!command03:22
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Bladesonfire03:22
BladesonfireHeh03:22
Bladesonfirek03:22
apokryphoscommands, or other factoids?03:22
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apokryphosfactoids are searchable at the link above. You can also use !listvalues somefactoid, to search him.03:23
vinboy!command03:23
ubotuvinboy: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:23
apokryphosfor other actual commands he takes, /msg ubotu help03:23
Bladesonfireapokryphos: thanks03:23
exhale"restarting system log.... ok" thats all im getting03:23
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LinuxNewbieHow do I install stuff? I download Macromedia Flash Player I extracted the TAR files03:29
cfraz89LinuxNewbie: did you get something like libflasplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so ?03:32
SkrotFFSI think you're better off with "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"03:32
LinuxNewbieYeah cfraz03:32
cfraz89ok, but SkrotFFS is right, you might want to try that first03:33
cfraz89use either adept or a command line03:33
cfraz89ubuntu has a package for flashplayer03:33
LinuxNewbieI wanna learn how to install from .TARs since Firefox is from that as well.03:33
cfraz89oh ok03:33
cfraz89where did you install firefox to?03:33
Hobbsee!firefox1.503:33
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion03:33
cfraz89installing firefox and flashplayer from tar is very different to installing source tar's by the way03:34
LinuxNewbieOk03:34
LinuxNewbieLet me do the Flash first03:34
SkrotFFSYou should just have to move the files from the .tar into the plugin-directory of firefox though03:34
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h3sp4wnHas anyone built packages for kde 3.5.3 yet ?03:38
Hobbseeh3sp4wn: yes03:39
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h3sp4wnHobbsee: Have they got all the ubuntu patches in it ?03:39
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LinuxNewbieLinux is harder to use03:39
ChousukeIt depends.03:40
apokryphosdepends on what you want to do with it, really03:40
cristianoguys what do u think about the new dapper?03:40
xwolf-it's just that you are used to windowns03:40
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leeghoofdhi, this probably is a faq but I read that it's now possible to install sun java5 with apt straight from the repo's, do you know which pakcage to install?03:40
ChousukeIf you know how to work with Linux, it's a lot easier. :)03:40
Chousukeor not easier.03:40
LinuxNewbieSomeone should make a website for people who wanna CONVERT from Windows but do not know ANYTHING about linux03:40
apokryphosLinuxNewbie: there are many such sites03:41
ChousukeYou'll just be able to work more comfortably03:41
ChousukeLinuxNewbie: take your time getting used to it. :)03:41
LinuxNewbieI found them saying use ,/CONFIGURE but why do I use it ?03:41
ChousukeLinuxNewbie: there's no need to compile software on modern distros.03:41
cfraz89Chosuke: i disagree03:41
HobbseeLinuxNewbie: there are.  wiki.ubuntu.com is also good03:42
apokryphosLinuxNewbie: you're going to have to learn a few basics first. Try diving into the Ubuntu wiki03:42
Chousukecfraz89: there's no need.03:42
xwolf-funny how windowns migrators such as myself want to go to linux and get it all working peachy in no time, we forget the long time we took to learn win correctly03:42
Chousukecfraz89: but you can do it .)03:42
cfraz89if you want bleeding edge or software without distro package?03:42
Bladesonfirecristiano: I love Dapper (only version that updates Amarok so I can play all my MP3's ;))03:42
apokryphosHobbsee: or better wiki.kubuntu.org ;-)03:42
Chousukethen you can compile03:42
cfraz89yep03:42
Chousukebut you don't need to have the bleeding edge package.03:42
Chousukenothing forces you to have it03:42
Chousukeif you want it, then you should learn to compile things.03:43
cfraz89bugs in current package lol?03:43
BladesonfireChousuke: for Gaim I do =P03:43
Chousukebut there is no real need. :)03:43
LinuxNewbieWhat is with Linux and HTTPS. lol03:43
ChousukeBladesonfire: because you want some feature? do you _need_ the feature?03:43
cfraz89night all03:43
cristianoBladesonfire: damn i'm not able to use Amarok with xine engine, i loved gstreamer engine :(03:43
Chousukethere is no need if you can settle for what is provided.03:43
Chousukewhich is good enough for most users.03:44
cristianowhat do u use as movie player?03:44
leeghoofdis it possible to install sun java5 on dapper, sun changed it license so it should be possible?03:44
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Chousukeleeghoofd: it's in multiverse.03:44
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BladesonfireChousuke: Yes... Gaim2 beta 3 improves the file transfers capability03:44
Bladesonfirecristiano: I don't know why they switched to xine engine, but it seems to work okay03:44
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leeghoofdChousuke: I have multiverse, do you know what it's called03:44
Chousukeleeghoofd: you can search with adept03:44
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Bladesonfireleeghoofd: sun-java5-jre03:45
Bladesonfireleeghoofd: Also try this: apt-cache search sun-java03:45
ChousukeBladesonfire: I see. This is getting a bit off-topic. :)03:45
visik7cool dapper+kde3.5.3+amarok1.403:45
ChousukeI have  to be off anyway.03:45
visik7really cool03:45
BladesonfireOr if you're using Adept... it'll automatically come up with everything if you just put in part of a name03:45
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BladesonfireChousuke: I always like a good chat =D03:46
leeghoofdthanks03:46
cristianokde3.5.3?!? O___O03:46
BladesonfireYep03:46
ChousukeBladesonfire: join #ubuntu-offtopic03:46
visik7yes 3.5.3 repo for dapper ready :)03:46
cristianouauuuu tell me the repossss :D03:46
imbrandon_Sysinfo for 'voyager': Linux 2.6.15-23-686 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.93GHz at 2933 MHz (5871 bogomips), HD: 53/147GB, RAM: 403/1002MB, 121 proc's, 2.11min up03:46
visik7cristiano: the same for all the kde apps03:46
visik7cristiano: kubuntu.org/packages03:47
imbrandon_cristiano, deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main03:47
leeghoofdBladesonfire: it errors with sun-dlj-v1-1 license could not be presented03:47
cristianoimbrandon_: thx :)03:47
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Bladesonfireleeghoofd: I didn't even know that was a package it installs.... I don't see it on my system03:48
leeghoofdBladesonfire: no, that's not a package, it says: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/74898803:49
cristianook time to install even video codecs (i just reinstalled linux yesterday ^^)03:50
Bladesonfireleeghoofd: Hmmm, never seen that before03:50
cristianolibdvdcss is still needed, right?03:50
leeghoofdBladesonfire: I will search the bugs03:50
Bladesonfirecristiano: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:50
Bladesonfireleeghoofd: I'll search the forums03:51
cristianoBladesonfire: mmmm thx03:51
Bladesonfirehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184608&highlight=sun-dlj-v1-103:51
BladesonfireOh!03:51
BladesonfireDid you install it through adept or cli?03:51
leeghoofdBladesonfire: cli03:51
leeghoofdBladesonfire: aptitude, but adept also fails03:52
Bladesonfireleeghoofd: Try apt-get (I've never used aptitude)03:52
Bladesonfireleeghoofd: But I've always had problems with Adept and install sun-java5-jre (or jdk) because of the prompt03:52
Bladesonfireleeghoofd: From the link: sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf03:53
vinboycristiano: get easyubuntu03:53
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LinuxNewbieHow can I check to see if my Account is the Admin or Root Account ?03:53
Bladesonfireleeghoofd: Also, after installing the package, you may want to visit the RestrictedFormats link and go to "sun java" to learn how to let the system know which java to use03:53
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BladesonfireLinuxNewbie: there is no root account03:54
Bladesonfire!root03:54
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.03:54
cristianovinboy: what is it? i'm not new to ubuntu03:54
LinuxNewbieThen how can I check to see if I got Admin Rights ?03:54
LinuxNewbieSince I dont think I do...03:54
leeghoofdBladesonfire: it works now, thanks03:54
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Bladesonfireleeghoofd: yw =D03:56
LinuxNewbieYou are running the Macromedia Flash Player installer as a non-root user.03:56
LinuxNewbieMacromedia Flash Player 7 will be installed in your home directory.03:56
LinuxNewbieSupport is available at http://www.macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/03:56
LinuxNewbieTo install Macromedia Flash Player 7 now, press ENTER.03:56
LinuxNewbieTo cancel the installation at any time, press Control-C.03:56
LinuxNewbieI got that when I tools execute Shell command03:56
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robin_hiu04:07
robin_I downloaded the kubuntu release candidate04:08
robin_but it stuck on 640x480 on my laptop04:08
robin_and the window size of the installer doens't fit in there..04:08
robin_:(04:08
Vampissudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:08
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robin_ok04:10
robin_thx04:10
robin_but this is a bug ?04:10
robin_because I have selected 1024 in the bootloader04:10
robin_*had04:11
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Vampiswhat happens if you dont ?=04:12
robin_same thing04:12
robin_stuck to 64004:12
Dr_Willissounds like its not seeing either the video card, or monitor correctly04:12
BilfordI give up on connecting my PocketPC to Kubuntu04:13
robin_I guess, but with dpkg-reconfigure and default stuff, it works04:13
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VampisBilford: it's not easy04:13
Vampisbuy a palm instead04:13
Vampis:)04:13
KmirnoBilford: I didn't even tried04:13
KmirnoBilford: try*04:13
Bilforddid you04:13
Bilfordoh04:13
KmirnoBilford: I've done it for ubuntu breezy for a client04:14
Kmirnonillhad to write custome fucking scripts and stuff i don't even remember04:14
Hobbsee!language04:14
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.04:14
Kmirnonever ever again04:14
LynoureVampis: unfortunately there are issues with kpilot as well04:14
KmirnoHobbsee: I apologies04:14
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KmirnoBilford: so.. uh it doesn't work on dapper too ?04:15
BilfordIm sure theres a way to do it04:15
Bilfordbut Im not a nuclear physicist04:15
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KmirnoBilford: trust me nuclear physicist don't know anything about ppp over usb and multisync04:16
Bilfordlol04:16
KmirnoBilford: I showed a ubuntu breezy shipit cd to one of them (some familly) he told me this was crape and those systemes aren't used for 20 years and the top notch is Windows NT04:17
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KmirnoBilford: He still doesn't trust me04:18
Bilfordlol04:18
KmirnoBilford: he'snt that brilliant anymore thought .. he's my dad, kinda getting old04:19
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Bilfordwhats he use the computer for04:19
h3sp4wnBilford: Why not install linux onto the pocket pc ? could be interesting04:20
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BilfordI cant connect to it04:20
h3sp4wnWhat model is it ?04:20
KmirnoBilford: he droped physics for Molecular bilogy, he worked for i.a.r.c as a biologist, he use it for reports, mails and stuff like that I guess.. there'snt that much math in that job. He's on pention (you know ? too old stop working) since 2000 ... He didn't use much computers since them04:21
Kmirnothen*04:22
BilfordDell Axim04:22
KmirnoBilford: I'm not sure he ever heard about windows xp neither04:22
Bilfordlol04:22
james_xxxcould someone give me a command line entry that will upgrade me from xubuntu breezy to xubuntu dapper?04:23
BladesonfireI've always had bad experiences upgrading, but if you really want to, the wiki has some pointers04:23
james_xxxi just upgraded to kubuntu dapper on this machine, and it worked perfectly04:24
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Bladesonfirejames_xxx: Use the same process for Xubuntu, then... it's the same OS underneath04:26
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Bilfordwait until tomorrow04:26
DarkAdmiraltomorrow dapper will be released?04:27
Bilfordyes04:27
DarkAdmiralcool04:27
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DarkAdmiraland when do they start the next project?04:28
Bilfordtomorrow04:28
Bilford6.10  planned for October, 2006  Edgy Eft04:29
Vampisoh, nise04:29
HobbseeBilford: give them a few days off :P04:29
DeBertto bad kubuntu is released with this ugly artwork04:29
Bilfordno04:29
Bilfordtheyre here to serve me04:30
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DarkAdmiralDeBert: what do you mean?04:31
Hobbseehaha04:31
DeBertDarkAdmiral: i just think kubuntu doesn't look good04:31
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DarkAdmiralDeBert: it's on you to change it ;)04:32
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robin_lol04:33
robin_i'm using the installer04:33
robin_and I'm at the point of the partition stuff04:33
robin_default it want to erase all.04:34
DeBertDarkAdmiral: yep, but i shouldn't have, i'm not very demanding04:34
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robin_and if I do manually, the prepare partition couldn't fit in my 1024 screen :D04:34
robin_it's twice as big in width.04:34
robin_:\04:34
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jochrobin_: you can move the windows with alt+click-and-drag04:34
robin_yes I know04:35
robin_but kinda strange huh :)04:35
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robin_can't resize it either..04:35
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robin_and now the installer crashes..04:39
robin_sigh04:39
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robin_hmm maybe I should wait till tomorrow.04:41
robin_I suspect things are working than :)04:41
robin_I hope*04:41
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LynoureIt's cute how you keep your status visible on your nick :)04:53
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BladesonfirePeople don't do that anymore? =P04:55
Bilfordhow do you make Konversation transparent04:56
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simpis there a way to extract .rar in ubuntu?05:02
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apokryphossimp: install unrar-nonfree and then: unrar x somearchive.rar05:04
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simpso i just search for unrar05:04
simp:)05:04
simptnx05:04
apokryphosit's in multiverse though, so make sure you've got that enabled05:05
v3ctorsudo apt-get install unrar-free05:05
simpok05:06
apokryphosno, nonfree works a lot better05:06
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OlliKsudo apt-get install firefox05:07
OlliKsudo apt-get install kde05:07
apokryphosOlliK: ??05:07
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OlliKapokryphos: All you need is the firefox installation and then it should work05:08
apokryphoswhat should work?05:08
OlliKapokryphos: just open a konsole and then type: sudo apt-get install firefox05:08
_siljeHi everyone, does anyone know if there are any kubuntu distros with 2.6.14 kernel available05:08
_silje?05:08
apokryphosOlliK: what are you talking about?05:08
OlliKapokryphos: then it will ask you a password, in that case you have to give your _own_ password,05:08
apokryphos...05:08
apokryphosOlliK: I think you're looking for someone else =)05:09
OlliKapokryphos: there is no root in ubuntu/kubuntu in the way there is in other linux distros, that's why you can use sudo05:09
OlliKapokryphos: I mean you should use sudo05:09
_siljeIs there reeleaased a kubuntu with 2.6.1405:09
h3sp4wnOlliK: are you a bot ? you sound like one05:09
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OlliKh3sp4wn: No I'm not a bot!05:09
OlliKh3sp4wn: I'm just trying to be helpful :(05:09
OlliKh3sp4wn: I know when I didn't know these things, other people in IRC were helpfull for me...05:10
XVampireXPeople are mean05:10
_siljewell05:10
apokryphosOlliK: why are you telling me how to install firefox then?05:10
_siljecan someone please trie to be helpfull to me05:10
apokryphos_silje: I don't think there is, no05:10
OlliK_silje: hi, what's your prob?05:11
OlliK_silje: do you need 2.6.14 kernel especially?05:11
h3sp4wnOlliK: I just thought you were answering a non existant question (which seemed to me strange)05:12
_siljeI want a kubuntu with kernel 2.6.14 out of the box, not 2.6.12 neither 2.6.15/16, cuz 2.6.12 doesn't recongnize neither my wired card or wireless card. and when i install with 2.6.15 or 2.6.16 i get Bios error. But when 2.6.14 it runs okey, everything works05:12
h3sp4wnOlliK: I apologise05:12
OlliKh3sp4wn: oh.. i c :(05:12
OlliKh3sp4wn: It's ok, it was probably my mistake05:12
visik7h3sp4wn: file a bug05:12
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eeoshi there. I was reading a bit about unbuntu and co. I discovered that some of the stuff that are released by Canonica are not open source, for example rosetta or launchpad. Do you know why?05:20
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Bladesonfire#ubuntu-offtopic05:27
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skipster23can anyone here help me with a a Kaffeine error05:31
Bladesonfireskipster23, we can try?05:32
ctothejif you have dual head set up, how can you move an application between the 2 instances of x so you can switch its screen?05:32
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skipster23here it is05:32
skipster23X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16605:32
skipster23  Major opcode:  14405:33
skipster23  Minor opcode:  305:33
skipster23  Resource id:  0x005:33
skipster23Failed to open device05:33
Bladesonfirectothej, two instances? So you have two monitors configured in your xorg file, as opposed to twinhead?05:33
skipster23X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16605:33
skipster23  Major opcode:  14405:33
Bladesonfirectothej, I don't think it's possible05:33
skipster23  Minor opcode:  305:33
skipster23  Resource id:  0x005:33
skipster23Failed to open device05:33
skipster23ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/share/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (373)05:33
skipster23DVB 0 : No such file or directory05:33
Bladesonfireskipster23, what exactly are you trying to do?05:33
skipster23DVB 1 : No such file or directory05:33
skipster23DVB 2 : No such file or directory05:33
skipster23DVB 3 : No such file or directory05:33
skipster23ScimInputContextPlugin()05:33
ctothejBladesonfire: i have read that when you have dual head set up, it is actually 2 instances of X running. 1 per monitor05:33
skipster23play mp3's05:34
ctotheji like having the taskbar on both, but i want to be able to drag windows across the screens as well... or at least send them to the next screen you know05:34
Bladesonfirectothej, okay, I don't believe it's possible ... you'd have to set up 1 instance to be able to do that05:34
ctothejBladesonfire: ok, i figured that. I had problems setting up big desktop mode, so i had to stick with the dual head setup.05:35
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Bladesonfirectothej, I'm running twinhead right now and it allows you to have the taskbar span across both windows and be able to move the windows across (done through twinhead config)05:35
ctothejhow so?05:35
Bladesonfireskipster23, did you install the MP3 capabilities? wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:35
Bladesonfirectothej, do you have a nvidia card?05:36
chavoI just put one taskbar on each screen here, much tidier05:36
ctothejBladesonfire: no, ATI05:36
chavoohh ATI05:36
Bladesonfirechavo, I do that, too05:36
ctotheji know, what was I thinking...05:36
skipster23what is the url, i've been to so many urls trying to this05:36
Bladesonfirectothej, grr... I don't know how to configure dual head for an ATI05:36
Bladesonfireskipster23, that was the URL05:36
ctothejim happy i got both screens up with their native resolutions. its weird because I can move the mouse back and forth, but not applications.05:37
Bladesonfirectothej, I remember when I was in your situation back in the day ... you need the one instance... forgot what the technical reason was05:38
skipster23i'm looking and trying to install the windows codecs05:39
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ctothejBladesonfire:  you remember where you looked for the solution?05:39
Bladesonfirectothej, well, mine was with a nvidia card and using twinview05:39
BladesonfireAre you using xinerama?05:39
ctothejno.05:40
ctotheji have heard of it, but dont really know what it is05:40
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chavoctothej, it's what lets you drag windows across the screens05:40
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Bladesonfirehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184704&highlight=xinerama05:41
BladesonfireLooks like that guy has a working xorg for xinerama05:42
Bladesonfirewith xinerama05:42
Kadranhi skipster2305:42
ctothejchavo, Bladesonfire: Adept tells me that libxinerama1 is installed...05:42
BladesonfireOh, it's not a package... just a parameter you put into your xorg.conf05:42
ctotheji just happen to be in there looking05:42
ctothejoh nice05:42
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BladesonfireThis might help, too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo05:43
BladesonfireAlthough I'll admit, I didn't read it05:43
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ctothejhey thats cool. thanks alot.05:43
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BladesonfireHopefully those forum posts hold some good info05:44
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orcoHola05:44
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orcoHi! I've got a problem with dpkg... I "lost" /var/lib/dpkg directory05:46
DjDarkmanhy ,when will i`ll be able to download dapper?05:46
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Kadrantell skipster23 about !w32codecs05:47
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Kadranubotu: tell skipster23 about w32codecs05:47
Kadran!w32codecs05:48
ubotua compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439905:48
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Kadranhi guys how to make the bot tell something to someone05:49
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ctothejchavo, Bladesonfire: ROCK! i can move the windows across now... Thank You!05:50
chavonicde05:50
chavonice even :)05:50
BladesonfireWoo hoo =D05:50
BladesonfireI love that feeling of accomplishment =D05:50
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ctothejBladesonfire: on a totally different note, you use kmail or a different e-mail client?05:52
BladesonfireI use Kmail for the integration between the mail, calendar, and to-do05:52
Bladesonfire(main reason I moved away from Thunderbird)05:52
Kadrandoes any one use hotway and hotsmtp ?05:52
BladesonfireKadran, not i05:52
KadranBladesonfire: i want to open my hotmail account using kmail05:53
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Kadrani wish kopete support skype protocol :)05:54
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BladesonfireKadran, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102327&highlight=hotmail+kmail05:55
BladesonfireThe forums are very helpful =D05:55
Kadranthanks Bladesonfire05:55
Bladesonfirenp05:55
ctothejBladesonfire: in kmail, i have an IMAP mail setup. when i delete mails, they are put into my local trash. how can i set it up so that they dont need to be downloaded but just moved into my IMAP's INBOX.TRASH folder?05:57
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Bladesonfirectothej, I actually don't use an IMAP setup, but try using a filter on the incoming mail05:58
jochctothej: you can specify which trash folder to use in the settings05:59
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skipster23Bladesonfire: Thanks, I kept going wrong when changing the repositories06:01
skipster23i've got it know06:01
BladesonfireGood to hear =D06:01
skipster23kadran: thanks for your help yesterday if it wasn't for you i probably would have gave up06:02
ctothejjoch: where is the option? i cant find it06:02
jochctothej: can't remember exactly but i think it's where you set up your user profile06:02
jochname, email address etc06:03
skipster23i'm just so sick of winblows (aka: windows) theres nothing cool anymore its just time to learn somthing else06:03
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ctothejjoch: Got it. you were right. at the bottom of the Modify Account window. Thank you.06:04
jochctothej: great06:05
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swokeHello.06:07
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slow-motionre06:08
swokeSince new update, I can't get fglrx working anymore (lsmod is ok), any idea ?06:08
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h3sp4wnswoke: what versions do you have installed of fglrx and linux-restricted-modules ?06:13
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FaxeSystemwhat's the repository for the w32, mp3, libdvdcss2 ?06:15
apokryphosFaxeSystem: for mp3, /msg ubotu mp3, for w32 and libdvdcss /msg ubotu seveas06:16
Bladesonfireor http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:16
Kadranskipster23: np here you can find any help you need any time :)06:16
apokryphossame thing, yup06:16
FaxeSystemthank you06:16
skipster23thanks06:17
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skipster23i have been offered this job to learn and take care of linux servers like a few (wellsfargo branches and other corperations and small companys) throughout Az.)06:20
skipster23i haven't decided yet though this linux stuff is hard but i think i'm getting the hang of it06:21
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GazzaKskipster23: it is fun to learn though06:22
skipster23ya as long as its somthing new06:23
lwizardlcan I use a network printer in kubuntu? its installed on a xp machine with filesharing setup and i have the printer set to share also06:23
GazzaKmore fun for me than learning windows stuff again (I'm IT support)06:23
Kadranskipster23: may i suggest having a course like lpi or linux+ to help you learn faster06:23
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Kadranand also keep being here some things discussed in this room are more cool than any course06:24
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Kadrani don't know what bill gates wants the hotway says "The server said: "Hotmail said you must pay money to have WebDAV access"" did any one got hotwayd working fine?06:26
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skipster23what is the difference in blackdown java and sun java06:26
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dr_willissuns is the official06:27
dr_willisblackdown is a  GPL project - i belive. , i always seem tohave to use suns official java to get stuff working right06:27
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h3sp4wndr_willis: have you tried ibm's java ?06:28
dr_willish3sp4wn:  nope. :)06:28
h3sp4wndr_willis: Neither have I but I think it should be pretty compatible06:29
dr_willish3sp4wn:  all it takes is 1 app to not work. :P and  its back to me using SUNS which should work. Lol06:29
dr_willisAzaurus and Puzzlepirates seem to be a little picky06:30
r0xzHmm, kubuntu should be in this list http://www.madtux.org/all_downloads.php?product_type=TRN06:30
h3sp4wndr_willis: I try to avoid using java apps when I can but I would take speed over compatibility most of the time06:31
dr_willisall the speed in the world dont matter.. if it dont work. :)06:31
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armedkingdoes the update to dapper for ubunto also work for kubuntu? or is there an other way?06:39
imbrandonyes it works for kubuntu also06:40
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armedkingTnx m8, Does it update my repository's to?06:41
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dizyhi guys... i was just wondering how to make use of my forward & back mouse buttons in firefox... they currently act as scroll up and down... same thing my wheel is doing06:53
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NthDegreei have no clue dizy06:54
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skipster23what is the best way to burn iso's06:54
NthDegreeskipster23:  use K3B06:54
h3sp4wnskipster23: cdrecord06:54
NthDegreehmmmmmmmm06:55
NthDegreedid i get kicked from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic06:55
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NthDegreer0fl06:55
RadiantFiremorning yo06:55
RadiantFirelol, silly NthDegree06:55
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SeveasNthDegree, yes. And from #ubuntu+106:56
NthDegreeah poo lol06:56
Seveasyou should switch off the annoyign away messages06:56
zizaquestion: where in the system settings can i set the time when my monitor should be put into standby-mode (not turning it off completely)06:56
RadiantFirelol06:56
NthDegreeSeveas I registered [AWAY] NthDegree aswell as NthDegree so I could use my away in the openbsd :P06:57
SeveasNthDegree, the nicknames are fine, but the messaging "NthDegree is back..." not06:57
Seveasswitch that off.06:57
NthDegreeoh06:57
DeadS0uldo any of you have k3b installed on dapper drake?06:57
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NthDegreeSeveas:  I forgot where the bits are in konversation for it06:59
NthDegreeoh found them06:59
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NthDegreeok is it sorted07:00
NthDegreemy nickname stays the same now and no messages appear07:00
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skipster23deadsoul: yes07:01
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DeadS0ulskipster23: how so, cos i can't get it to install anymore, there are conflicts =(07:07
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_clemHi there, I've asked that in #ubuntu already but noone seems to know: will the Release Candidate get any modification done before it becomes the final release tomorrow ?07:08
zeccozrebooting modem brb07:09
thompawell yes iuts the updated version07:09
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skipster23deadS0ul: in your konsole type: sudo adept_installer, and try uninstalling it then installing it07:10
thompa_clem: if you do upgrade its same thing in RC07:10
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DeadS0ulalright07:10
_clemI mean, are the 25th of May's RC and the final release the same.. any bug fix between them ?07:10
thompaunless you had some issue installing in RC, such as nvidia mismatch07:11
_clemI want to test the distribution and review it... but I just want to make sure I have the final product before criticizing it.07:11
thompathen wait until the 1st07:11
_clemyes... I was affraid you'd say that :)07:12
thompathere are all the upgrades in it07:12
thompaim doing a review also07:12
_clemthompa : are you waiting for tomorrow ?07:12
thompathe installation is different between RC and final if there are things not upgraded07:12
thompayep07:12
DeadS0ulskipster23: nope07:13
_clemok, I suppose it's wiser. You're right, I'll wait.07:13
thompain the rc there were a few problems if you do not upgrade before installing nvidia-glx07:13
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_clemok07:13
slow-motionbye07:14
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_clemI am right when saying that if I download Ubuntu, install it, and install kubuntu-desktop through APT, I will have exactly what I would have had with Kubuntu appart from the boot splash and grub artwork ?07:14
thompaif you review rc you would have to say that, but you can start by outlining some of the workings07:15
_clemwell, you convinced me. I'll wait for the final release.07:15
_clemI've already wrote another article today.. maybe it's time for a break :)07:16
_clemwritten....07:16
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thompa_clem: the only difference would be if you setup things like wireless in ubuntu first, that would effect the outcome07:17
_clemwhy thompa ?07:17
thompasome of the tools are different in kubuntu, system settings eg07:17
thompaits mostly a user problem if any07:18
thompai prefer kubuntu because im used to kde07:18
_clemok07:18
_clemsame here.07:18
_clemI use Kubuntu, and I don't know much about Ubuntu itself.07:18
thompai mean only if you start with ubuntu, then install kubuntu its different because you have setup in gnome first07:19
_clemI wanted to give it a look for the review though, especially cause of the new artwork.07:19
thompaive noticed in gnome the menu contents dont appear right away in human theme07:19
thompai think its supposed to be like that, cause if i change to another theme it reacts different07:20
_clemthompa: you mean there's a delay ?07:20
Kadrani am not viewing all the workgroups in the network in the samba, does any one know why?07:21
_clemthompa: I've noticed that in SUSE 10.1 as well. The menus were slow to appear, and sometimes they would actually appear before the icons did.07:21
thompayes, but i can change the delay in preferences theme, details07:21
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thompalike i choose crux theme, then in details chose human parts07:22
_clemthompa : no.. that was the wrong word.. I meant it was slow.. unwanted delay.07:22
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_clemthompa : I thought it was because of beagle indexation first..07:22
thompais it,? maybe07:23
_clemwell I don't know. Beagle takes a lot of resources when indexing, but it's pretty small when it doesn't..07:23
crimsun_clem: that should only happen after a call to gtk-update-icon-cache07:23
thompawell i just switched back to human theme and now its not delaying07:23
crimsunthompa: see above.07:24
_clemcrimsun: I don't really know.. this was observed in SUSE 10.107:24
thompaok. i like the large print theme, my monitor is 1440x90007:25
_clemmy computer was a bit slow, but it felt like KDE was actually being more responsive than Gnome on it.07:25
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_clemand anyway, I've always liked KDE better, even though Gnome is getting better and better looking.07:25
thompathen you must like konqueror07:25
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_clemfor web browsing ?07:26
thompafor file and web07:27
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_clemwell.. there's something I hate in konqueror.. and it makes me use Firefox for web browsing.07:27
thompai got one mac guy to switch to ubuntu,07:27
jarlathHas anyone here used an Advent laptop? Im looking at one with good specs, but there arent any reviews on the net. I'm just wondering how good they are.07:27
_clemwhen I hit BACKSPACE it doesn't go back....07:27
thompanow that ipod works07:28
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thompabest of luck, hope to see your review07:29
guillermohi07:29
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ctothejis there a program like window's webdrive for linux? basically it makes an ftp folder look like a local drive.07:30
Kadrangftp07:30
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ctothejKadran: thanks, installing as we speak07:30
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guillermoi'm having problems installing kubuntu-desktop, I cannot retrieve the packages from the server; can I install it from my ubuntu cd?07:31
Kadrangood luck07:31
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Kadranguillermo: check why the problem is, sometimes the problem get fixed when typing 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'07:33
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guillermoI get the message:  "Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?07:35
guillermo"07:35
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carlos_hi.. i'm about to download kubuntu 6.06 ISO image, but not sure about the diference between Desktop CD and Alternate CD.. any hints?07:36
Kadranguillermo: ok try this 'sudo apt-get update'07:37
Kadrancarlos_: you can wait for 7 hours so you can download dapper final, it is coming today :)07:38
Shurikencarlos_: Desktop CD is for a normal use, with a graphical installation07:38
Shurikenwhereas install CD is in text mode07:38
DeadS0ultext mode ftw07:39
guillermoand then I try to install again KDE?07:39
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Shuriken(Desktop CD is both Live and Install CD)07:39
Kadranguillermo: no why ?07:39
Kadranguillermo: just update it07:39
carlos_Shuriken: thanks..07:39
carlos_i'll wait07:40
carlos_i've already downloaded the old release07:40
Shurikennp !07:40
carlos_is it better to intall the old and update, or wait and download another iso file?07:40
carlos_which one is faster?07:40
Kadrancarlos_: never mind you can just update it, it is soo easy,07:40
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guillermobecause I have here the gnome ubuntu installed and I want to install KDE07:40
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carlos_Kadran: but i didnt install it yet! :D07:41
Shurikencarlos_: is your old release ever installed ?07:41
carlos_Shuriken: no07:41
carlos_I'm migrating from fedora to ubuntu..07:41
Shurikenso, you should download the finale 6.0607:41
Kadranguillermo: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same and you can install kde on ubuntu and will be like kubuntu brother :)07:42
carlos_ok.. i'll wait one more day to it.. :D07:42
_clemKadran : desktop is a live cd which features a graphical installer that you can use from the running live os.07:42
DeadS0ulhow is fedora, I haven't used fedora, since..uh..rh 8.107:42
_clemKadran : alternate is a text based install cd....07:42
_clemDeadS0ul : Fedora Core 5 is very impressive.07:43
carlos_i'm with FC5.. that is fine, but thos custom kernel let me crazy07:43
carlos_and I'm looking for a Desktop distro07:43
_clemyes, same here... custom kernel is a pain when it comes to install modules and drivers.07:43
DeadS0ulheh I use debian on my server, I need to customise the kernel to allow acls >| but I haven't done that yet07:43
DeadS0ul_clem: yeah that's why I don't wannna07:43
carlos__clem: yes... that is it07:43
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carlos_i'll use kubuntu as my desktop and intall vmware with some debian or slackware for testing and servers (test too)07:44
ctothejwoo hoo. edited my first web application on kubuntu.. im psyched. (yeah i know, what a geek)07:45
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_clemcarlos_ : Kubuntu is great both as desktop and server.07:45
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carlos_but i dont want to mix it..07:45
_clemcarlos_ : Suse 10.1 and Fedora Core 5 are nice as well as desktop... if you don't miss APT too much that is.. and custom kernel also.07:45
carlos_today I have averythig in my FC install, that is a pain when I want to update..07:45
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nostrahungryi just decided to try linux and got suse 10.107:47
DeadS0ulSuse is suppsed to be great07:47
nostrahungrysaw it at best buy and thought it looked like something neat to try07:47
nostrahungrywell....07:47
nostrahungryafter i got it...i ended up d/l kubuntu07:47
nostrahungryand i prefer it07:47
DeadS0ul..I have my home dir on my server and mount it using nfs07:47
ctothejDeadS0ul: what about it is so great? (serious question)07:47
DeadS0ul..has had the same shit on it since 9907:47
_clemcarlos_ : I suggest07:47
DeadS0ulit's got great stuff if I recall correctly, installer, support etc07:48
_clemoh sorry... didn't mean to press enter :)07:48
nostrahungrybut i dont know much about linux07:48
nostrahungrylearning07:48
carlos_np07:48
DeadS0ulnostrahungry: you'll learn to love it, if you like messing aroudn with stuff and are a fast learner07:48
nostrahungryim studying for my A+ so i figured its needed07:48
nostrahungryneed it*07:48
_clemnostrahungry : they're both great products. I prefer Kubuntu myself but was very impressed by SUSE 10.107:49
DeadS0uli don't have any certs =(07:49
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nostrahungryi cant even figure out how to install firefox07:49
nostrahungrylol07:49
_clemin kubuntu ?07:49
nostrahungryaccess seems to be denied for every extraction i try07:49
_clemsudo aptitude install mozilla-firefox ?07:49
RadiantFirethat would be apt-get07:50
RadiantFirenot aptitude07:50
_clemwhy not ?07:50
RadiantFireaptitude is a ncurses version of synaptic07:50
DeadS0ul=P you have to swtich to administrator mode first man, it's know has super user or root07:50
RadiantFire!root07:50
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.07:50
_clemI usually do everything from aptitude.07:50
crimsunRadiantFire: aptitude has an apt-get compatibility mode, too.07:50
DeadS0ulhaha yeah the whole idea of disabling root really confused me at first07:51
RadiantFirei actually like it07:51
RadiantFireits how os x works from what I'm told07:51
DeadS0ul..i enabled it so I didn't have to type in sudo for everything, ...then I found out bout sudo -i07:51
nostrahungrymy girlfriend cant use windows well....yet she finds this easier than i do07:51
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nostrahungryiv been programming for years07:51
RadiantFirelol07:51
nostrahungrydont know why im not getting this faster than i am07:51
RadiantFireprogramming != computer savvy07:51
ShurikenRadiantFire: are you sure of that ? I think synaptic/adept are frontend for apt-get07:51
DeadS0ulhabit07:51
_clemthe way I see it, you can passwd root if you want, but you also have sudo all configured for you if your prefer... it's perfect.07:51
nostrahungryyes...but i keep trying things the windows way07:51
nostrahungrylol07:51
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DeadS0uldiffeernt pardigm, windows tries to make thigns easier, linux tries to do things safer07:52
nostrahungrydo you guys like solaris?07:52
_clemnope.07:52
DeadS0ulhaven't tried it07:53
_clemI hate Solaris.07:53
RadiantFirei've been wanting to tinker with solaris07:53
RadiantFireI'm told 10 is a fat hog though07:53
nostrahungryfat hog....visual improvement...07:53
DeadS0ul_clem: ohh I wanna know why you're saying that07:53
nostrahungryaccording to your preference07:53
nostrahungrylol07:53
RadiantFirenostrahungry: by fat hog I was refereing to the fact the default install is like 4 GB07:53
_clemDeadS0ul : we use it at work. It feels like a linux box where every little app misses features...07:54
nostrahungrytook a look at it years ago07:54
nostrahungrydidnt like it07:54
nostrahungrynow people are talking about the improvements in 1007:54
bahbahbahnostrahungry: Haven't seen solaris10 but I've heard some sweet things about it.07:54
DeadS0ulbahbahbah: you mean like dtrace?07:55
DeadS0ul_clem: ah07:55
nostrahungryquestion...just out of pure nosixness on my part07:55
_clemDeadS0ul : and the filesystem is managing licences I think... so command like cd or ls give inconsistent informations.07:55
bahbahbahI do have an old sun450 that causes me grief every now and then.07:55
nostrahungrydo you guys like windows07:55
DeadS0ul_clem: I was always under the impression unix was way ahead of linux07:55
DeadS0ulnostrahungry: I like windows07:55
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nostrahungryhave you seen vista?07:55
DeadS0ulyeah07:56
DeadS0ulall their new features are in mac though07:56
bahbahbahDeadS0ul: dtrace is one of the things. And from what I've heard the new filessytem that they are working on is nothing short of amazing. Best thing to come out since SGI's xfs/cxfs.07:56
_clemDeadS0ul : like you see a directory that doesn't exist... Unix is dusty and old.07:56
DeadS0ulever seen teh video of bill gate's commentary on vista with mac OS X instead of Vista07:56
RadiantFireAlot of stuff in Solaris 10 is borrowed from FreeBSD07:56
RadiantFirelike their contained cells are whatever is modelled after BSD jails07:57
carlos__clem: would u say something? < _clem> carlos_ : I suggest07:57
DeadS0ulBSD jails or OpenBSD jails?07:57
nostrahungryim thinking of trying vista sometime this week07:58
DeadS0ul_clem: sounds liek crap07:58
nostrahungrywhen i have time to mess around a little more07:58
RadiantFireDeadS0ul: I can't remember07:58
DeadS0ulRadiantFire: ah well07:58
RadiantFireI thought they were FreeBSD, but I could see them having come from OpenBSD07:58
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bahbahbahRadiantFire: Really? Solaris borrowed from BSD? I thought it was the other way around.07:58
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_clemcarlos_ : my mistake.. I was about to say something then changed my mind and pressed enter by mistake.. (about using Debian Testing on your server)07:59
carlos__clem: ohh.. ok, no problem..08:00
_clemsure everybody borrows from FreeBSD.08:00
carlos_actualy, it is not a server... :D08:00
ctothejhow can i set kde to automatically enable numlock on boot?08:00
carlos_sometime I need mysql, apache, and something like this.. and I really dont want to mix it with my desktop08:00
babyhi guys i just installed dapper and when i rebooted it the desktop didnt come first but then i changed the consoles so finally could find it so how can fix it?08:00
carlos_but nothing used for anyone but me!!08:00
DeadS0ulctothej: set it up in your bios08:00
bahbahbahbaby: huh?08:01
ctothejDeadS0ul: ohh, hmm, ill have to check it out. thanks.08:01
nostrahungryhow can i smash linux with a hammer without damaging my pc08:01
nostrahungrygrrrr08:01
RadiantFirelol, what did it do?08:01
_clemlol08:01
nostrahungrynothing i need it too08:01
nostrahungryLOL08:01
nostrahungrythats it....im going to the book store in a bit08:01
DeadS0ulnostrahungry: you install windows Me over it08:02
_clemcarlos_ : Debian Testing is a great experience if you haven't tried it already.08:02
RadiantFirenot ME08:02
nostrahungrylol08:02
RadiantFireewww!08:02
DeadS0ulI'll stick with sarge thank you08:02
carlos__clem: yup, my website runs under debian.. :D08:02
DeadS0ulI used debian side for a while08:02
carlos_I like slackware too, as server08:02
carlos_that is what I use at work08:02
nostrahungryi was told by someone to learn with linspire08:03
_clemdefinitely.. I miss APT in Slackware though.08:03
nostrahungryever heard of it?08:03
DeadS0ulyeah08:03
DeadS0uldon't bother iwth it08:03
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RadiantFireI tinkered with slackware08:03
_clemwell Freespire will be released in a month or so. Free version of Linspire.08:03
RadiantFireit didn't last long08:03
DeadS0ulgo kubuntu or ubuntu, debian, fc08:03
carlos__clem: there's a tool called swaret08:03
RadiantFirethe install was a nightmare08:03
carlos_that is good08:03
RadiantFirethe lilo install failed08:03
RadiantFireso I had to rescue it manually08:03
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RadiantFireand install grub08:04
_clemcarlos_ : I know.. but it's controversial, and the releases and all... I much prefer an APT based distro.08:04
carlos__clem: sure!! it is much better..08:04
DeadS0ulfc has yum08:04
nostrahungrymy choices also included xandros....but i didnt like the name08:04
carlos_yum is very good too..08:04
nostrahungrylol08:04
carlos_for rpm based distros08:04
DeadS0ulapt relises on the information in teh packages man, if they suck then apt will suck08:04
DrewMarindude how do I get vba in a gui mode in kubuntu\08:04
_clemyum is actually better than APT but so slow.....08:04
carlos_that is true08:04
DeadS0ulapt has super cow powers man08:05
carlos_that repositories rebuild (dont know the name) is pain08:05
_clemlol08:05
DrewMarinand how do I update to 6.0608:05
DeadS0ul...yeah thats' why apt with debian is so god damn good, because the debian guys are hardasses about their packages08:05
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DeadS0ulDrewMarin: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade *08:05
_clemyep ! it makes a fast and stable package management.08:05
_clemDrewMartin : there's more to it between breezy and dapper.08:06
DrewMarinits Drew Marin08:06
_clemDrewMartin : you need to get an updater and run it... lemme find the link.08:06
DrewMarinno t lol08:06
_clemoops.. sorry :)08:06
DeadS0ulah08:06
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DeadS0ulyou have to chagne your /etc/apt/sources.list from breezy to dapper and then run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade08:07
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DrewMarinthis is my first time in kubuntu08:07
DrewMarinI messed up my ubuntu system so I decide to give kubuntu a try08:08
DeadS0ulheh08:08
DeadS0ulthe're no real difference08:08
nostrahungryhow'd you mess it up08:08
EvilIdlerUgh, fonts grew when I upgraded to Dapper. And the kernel *still* can't boot, so I'm stuck with the stock nv driver :(08:08
DeadS0ul...yeah how did you mess it up?08:08
nostrahungrydid you try to install firefox too?08:08
nostrahungryj/k08:08
DrewMarinmessing with the pannel08:08
carlos_well guys, gotta go... cya!! and thanks for the answers!!08:08
DrewMarinI tried putting the penguins on it08:08
DrewMarinand it froze08:08
_clemDrewMarin : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-May/000081.html08:09
DeadS0ulhaha08:09
DrewMarinand wouldnt load the pannels when I loaded ubuntu back up08:09
DrewMarinthe first time I have seen a evil penguin08:09
nostrahungryspeaking of penguins.......is mandake/mandriva or whatever the hell its called any good?08:09
DrewMarin???08:09
bur[n] ernope08:09
bur[n] erheh08:09
DrewMarinbeen a unix user for 4 days08:09
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bur[n] erliar08:09
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DrewMarinwho me08:09
bur[n] eryou've been a linux user for 4 days08:09
DrewMarinIm not lying08:09
bur[n] erunix != linux08:10
DrewMarinwell Itried linux on other pcs but couldnt do anything on it becuase the hardware08:10
nostrahungryiv been one for few hours straight08:10
nostrahungry:)08:10
DrewMarinthe system would crash b4 I did anything08:10
_clemnostrahungry: Mandrake 9.1 was good as I remember it... I'll review Mandriva One soon.. I don't have a clue if it's still good or not. As I remember it wasn't always stable..08:10
DrewMarinlinux is alot easier than I thought it would be though08:10
nostrahungryiv been looking for something familiar at all........and was very excited when i noticed irc08:11
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nostrahungrybrag about it08:11
bur[n] ermandrake/driva uses rpms :\  bleh08:11
nostrahungrylol08:11
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DrewMarinbrag about what08:11
DrewMarinthe people here pretty much take ur hand through everything08:11
DrewMarinnice people08:11
DrewMarinwait I gots an idea08:11
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nostrahungryi learn best through reading/doing08:12
bonggnuholas08:12
bur[n] erhola... eres en un channel de ingles :)08:13
DrewMarinyea doing helps me08:13
DrewMarinbut reading gets me bored08:13
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DrewMarinIm installing ubuntu now08:14
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bur[n] erit's not hard ;)08:14
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bur[n] erDrewMarin: dapper?08:14
_clemDrewMarin : did you get the Dapper RC ?08:14
DrewMarinnope except installing from source08:14
DrewMarinnope08:14
=== bur[n] er would advise getting dapper
DrewMarinI typed in: sudo apt-get update08:14
pmis it true that dapper release has been postponed again?08:14
DrewMarinand it gave me some error08:14
bur[n] erpm: not that i've heard08:14
nostrahungrywhats the difference in ubuntu and kubuntu.....just the kde and gnome?08:15
_clempm: source ?08:15
DrewMarinwait nm08:15
bur[n] ernostrahungry: basically08:15
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DrewMarinit just updated the package list I think08:15
pmi don't want to wait anymore!!! :(((08:15
bur[n] erpm: just upgrade now! :)08:15
nostrahungryoh...and the fact that ubuntu has firefox with it already08:15
nostrahungrylol08:15
_clemnostrahungry : it's a matter of having everything on one CD, so there's two versions .. one for each big desktop..08:15
pmit rc, i want stable version08:16
pmit's *08:16
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bur[n] erit's pretty stable...08:16
chuckHi08:16
bur[n] erto be released in teh next 24 hours and there hasn't been a package updated in hte past 2408:16
DrewMarinyea I only had one problem which messed up my system08:16
nostrahungryi dont know why....but i dont like konqueror08:16
pmi've already got  dapper beta08:16
bur[n] erpm: so apt-get update and apt-get upgrade08:16
bur[n] er:)08:16
DrewMarinoh I didnt do upgrade08:17
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DrewMarinwill do after installing the ubuntu base system08:17
pmi did it so i guess i have rc right now, i installed it when it was beta08:17
_clembur[n] er: can you tell me if any package as been modified since RC was released (25 of may). ?08:17
chuckWhen I install kubuntu 5.1 and update it, it gives me a new kernel, with this new kernal the Xserver is does not work, has anyone else experanced this, or know a solution to it?08:17
_clem5.10...08:17
_clem10 as in October..08:17
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bur[n] er_clem: there have been plenty of updates since then08:19
_clemok08:19
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bur[n] erchuck: just go to dapper :)08:19
chuckdapper?08:20
bur[n] erchuck: ubuntu 6.06...  hte next version08:20
bur[n] erchuck: run 'gksudo "update-manager -d"'08:20
bur[n] erthat should upgrade you to dapper08:20
chuckok...08:20
bur[n] erer... wtf is the kde based sudo thing...  you might not have gksudo08:20
robotgeekbur[n] er: that only works on ubuntu08:20
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bur[n] erdisregard chuck... run "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and edit all instances of "breezy" to say "dapper" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"08:21
_clemchuch : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades08:21
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_clemyep08:22
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soonHi there folks ... just finished my first ever kubuntu install .. looks nice and WAUV !! does KDE load quickly ...08:24
DrewMarinhanybody know how to get vba to run with a gui08:24
DrewMarinsame here soon08:24
DrewMarinI was usin gnome the last 4 days08:24
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RadiantFiredoes anybody know how I can map the multimedia keys on my laptop to shortcuts?08:25
DrewMarinyea I need to know that also08:25
soonAlready got myself into trouble though: tried starting kuser ... I wasnt prompted for a root password during installation, but using kuser I have changed it to my ususal pw. I can now su in bash, but Kuser claims the PW is wrong !!08:26
LeeJunFansoon: you should use the password of the first user you setup.08:27
DrewMarinhow come it wont let me use gvba to boot vba08:27
soonLeeJunFan ... okay, but why though ?08:28
RadiantFiresigh, this is silly08:28
LeeJunFanubotu: tell soon about root08:28
DeadS0ulRadiantFire: look up keytouch08:28
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soonhmm LeeJunFan ... that could prove a problem - I started with a user 'ssss' (the keyboard setup was screwed during install) ... I hve since then deleted user 'ssss' !08:29
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DrewMarinwhy dosent gvba work08:30
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rir1Hi all08:30
rir1where is the module sound in kubuntu ?08:31
chuckbash: gksudo: command not found08:31
chuckbash: gksudo: command not found08:31
rir1i have a problem  no sound08:32
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LeeJunFansoon: at least you made a root password first, su to root, then add your current user to admin group, you'll then be able to use sudo and kuser again.08:32
rir1i look in etc/module08:32
DrewMarinwhy dosent gvba work/??08:32
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LeeJunFansoon: gpasswd -a [username]  admin08:32
DrewMarinwait nm I think I know why08:32
LeeJunFansoon: then when kuser asks for a password use the one for your current user, not root.08:33
rir1imbrandon: are you here ?08:33
soonthanks !08:33
rir1nixternal ?08:33
rir1how is the sound card detected ?08:35
chuckwhy am I getting "bash: gksudo: command not found"?08:35
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rir1it seems the computer detected an AC97 but it's an intel SIS08:36
bur[n] erchuck: because gksudo is a gnome thing, and you have kubuntu08:36
chuckah08:36
bur[n] erchuck: use sudo or kdesu08:36
crimsunrir1: both are correct. the codec is ac97-based, the dsp is sis-based.08:36
rir1thanks08:36
apokryphoskdesu if you're going to use a GUI application08:36
crimsunrir1: you control the mixer, which is the former.08:36
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rir1crimsun : what do you mean08:37
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rir1do you mean the mixer is mute08:37
chuckXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server08:38
chuckXlib: No protocol specified08:38
chuckkdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.008:38
crimsunrir1: no, I mean volumes are controlled via the ac97 perspective. What's the issue?08:39
rir1no sound on kubuntu08:40
rir1so i follow ubuntu 's how to08:40
rir1and there is no driver in /etc/module08:40
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crimsunrir1: /etc/modules is a red herring. Pastebin ``lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''08:41
chuckXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server08:41
chuckXlib: No protocol specified08:41
chuckkdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.008:41
chuckI am confussed :(08:41
bur[n] erheh... just run sudo ;)08:42
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unitionwhats the root pw for breezy ?08:42
bur[n] erunition: there isn't one08:42
bur[n] er!root08:42
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.08:42
unitionwell wtf08:42
rir1crimsun: thanks i didn't know the pastebin08:42
chuck"sudo: update-manager -d: command not found"  !!!! help me :(08:42
bur[n] erdisregard chuck... run "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and edit all instances of "breezy" to say "dapper" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"08:43
bur[n] eryou don't have the latest updates to breezy it seems ;)08:43
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chuckI just ran adept-update08:44
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chuckI should.08:44
crimsunrir1: please tell me the url after you've pasted, and hang 5, since I'm kinda busy (at work)08:44
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jackDoes anyone have Kweather working with Kubuntu ?08:44
uwohow can i make a short movie of my desktop (not snapshot, but movie while i am changing windows, etc.)?08:44
bur[n] erchuck: oh right... again, update-manager is part of the gnome ubuntu ;)  just do the edit like i said08:45
chuckok08:45
newuserAnyone know how to upgrade Kubuntu 5.10 to 6.0608:45
bur[n] eruwo: byzanz or wink08:45
bur[n] ernewuser... run "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and edit all instances of "breezy" to say "dapper" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"08:45
uwoburner:  tnx08:45
chuckWhen I run sudo kate /etc/apt... I get:08:46
chuckXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server08:46
chuckXlib: No protocol specified08:46
chuckkate: cannot connect to X server :0.008:46
chuckkate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.08:46
bur[n] erhow bout "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"08:46
chuckok that opened it08:47
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rir1crimsun: si701208:47
rir1stack AC9708:47
DaSkreechcan kopete join Yahoo conference chats?08:47
rir1should work ?08:47
crimsunrir1: I need the url of your paste08:48
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rir1sorry i don't know how to do it ?08:48
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chuckjust replace all the "Breezy" or also the "Breezy Badger"?08:49
fatejudgerwhat ever happened to the whole Zeroconf thing with network printers08:49
fatejudgerdid that just never materialize?08:49
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DaSkreech man I hate Kopete :(08:50
fatejudgerKopete is awesome08:50
DaSkreechIt's terrible08:50
fatejudgerhow is that?08:50
rir1crimsun: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/74958308:50
DaSkreechIt doesn't do anything that I want it to do08:50
fatejudgersuch as?08:51
DaSkreechIM people off the fly08:51
fatejudgeroff the fly?08:51
DaSkreechIs my most recent reason to curse it08:51
rir1crimsun: did you get it ?08:51
DaSkreechfatejudger: What Protocol do you use08:51
fatejudgerAIM, MSN08:51
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orcoHi08:52
DaSkreechWell try and say hello to me on Aim08:52
orcoi receibe a problem when updating saying it cannot configure libc608:52
orcowhat's wrong with my kubuntu?08:52
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orcos/problem/error08:53
orco:D08:53
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crimsunrir1: yes, please be patient, I'll address it asap, but I'm talking with my boss08:54
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rir1sorry08:54
rir1please take you time08:55
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rir1i don't want to disturb you08:55
orcowow... now i get a segmentation fault when I try to upgrade... :/ gods... juass (pray paladine about that xD)08:56
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chuckbur[n] er: ok I did just like you said then I got this error after it downloaded the updates:08:58
chuckFetched 962kB in 7s (122kB/s)08:58
chuckE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:58
chuckE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:58
chucko wait08:59
chuckI found whats wrong08:59
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visik7will kde 3.5.3 be included in dapper sooner or later ? or I've to stuck with kubuntu.org packages ?09:03
uniqstuck with kubuntu.org packages.09:04
uniqmost likely.09:04
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klerfaytkdesu konqueror isn't working09:05
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visik7uniq: but in 5 years will not be updated to bugfix releases ?09:06
visik7uniq: 3.5.3 is better then 3.5.2 expecially imap support09:06
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Kadranhi visik7: is kde 3.5.3 is officially released?09:07
visik7sources yes09:07
visik7packages for dapper are available on kubuntu.org/packages09:07
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crimsunrir1: amixer set 'Master' 77% && amixer set 'IEC958' off && amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0 && amixer set 'Sigmatel 4-Speaker Stereo' on09:08
Kadranvisik7: but i don't get any thing when running apt-get update ?09:08
rir1crimsun: ok09:08
visik7Kadran: isn't in the official repos09:08
Kadranvisik7: i have added other repos too?09:09
visik7Kadran: you need to add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353/ dapper main to sources.list09:09
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Kadranok i will do it thanks :)09:09
visik7I'm using it right now09:10
Kadrankde is alwayes cool09:10
DaSkreechKadran: Wrong09:11
KadranDaSkreech: you don't like kde ?09:11
DaSkreechIt's Kool :)09:11
Kadranoh yeah right :)09:12
jeroenvrpI try to make a nice looking chart, but Openoffice, Koffice and especially Kchart are not very good.09:13
jeroenvrpdoes anyone know another chart-software!?!09:13
DaSkreechDia?09:13
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visik7is there a dia written in kdelibs or qt ?09:14
Kadranjeroenvrp: dia is fine but i hate to tell you that that ms visio is actually good and you can run it with wine09:14
jeroenvrpKadran: no MS on my machine09:15
visik7:)09:15
jeroenvrpi will try dia09:15
Kadranme neither, but i have wine09:15
jeroenvrpme to, but no MS software09:16
Kadrani won't restart and leave linux :)09:16
crimsunrir1: progress?09:17
sheldoncdia is pretty good. i dont know if it draws the charts he wants it to, bu09:18
rir1nothing09:18
rir1no sound09:18
crimsunrir1: nothing what?09:18
sheldonct as far as stupid diagrams for univ, it worked fine09:18
_clemthe dot language is great for tree like graphs.09:18
crimsunrir1: does ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*start*.wav'' not work?09:18
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jeroenvrpKadran: dia is for diagrams, I mean charts09:23
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Kadranjeroenvrp: did you tried kivio?09:24
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jeroenvrpKadran: is also for diagrams09:25
jeroenvrpI mean charts09:25
Kadranmmm, like flow charts?09:25
jeroenvrpno09:25
jeroenvrplike a chart of temperature09:26
jeroenvrpa population chart09:26
jeroenvrpetc09:26
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rir1crimsun:  read but don't sound09:26
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Kadranjeroenvrp: in other words something to draw graphs with? am i right?09:27
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jeroenvrpKadran: yes09:27
rir1crimsun: thanks... i have to go09:27
Kadranjeroenvrp: did you tried oo spreadsheet?09:28
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jeroenvrpKadran: yes, but I think it's poortly designed and makes ugly charts/graphs09:28
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Tallia1Kubuntuis there a way to encode a streaming video played with mplayer in a file? avi for example09:31
Kadranjeroenvrp: you can get more gallary for ooo or use the gnome spread sheet09:31
jeroenvrpoh yeah gnumeric09:31
Kadranyes09:31
KadranTallia1Kubuntu: use soundkonverter09:31
soonis there no Kile for Ubuntu? Doesnt show up in Adept ....09:32
Tallia1Kubuntusound??09:32
Tallia1Kubuntuit is a video file Kedran09:32
KadranTallia1Kubuntu: it is a program that can convert many file formats to anothe format09:32
Kadranoh no it is for sound09:33
soonWauv ... Im having serious X problems here ... cant read anything in the text window ....09:33
Tallia1KubuntuKadran: furthermore it is a video stream.. not a file09:33
Kadranfor vedio there is something called konverter09:33
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KadranTallia1Kubuntu: you want to record something that is played in mplayer, right?09:34
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BlissexTallia1Kubuntu: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#tasksRecord09:34
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Kadransoon i have it in mine, add respoteries09:35
BlissexTallia1Kubuntu: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#tasksRecordPlay09:35
ctothejwhy would fglrxinfo tell me "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!" ??09:35
soonthanks ! Kadran09:36
Kadranyou are welcome09:37
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ctothejhow can i test opengl 3d acceleration?09:40
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Kadranctothej: there is some open gl screen savers09:42
ctothejerr. i knew it then. they were black. i need to get this 3d acceleration working09:43
RadiantFireglxgears09:43
RadiantFireit won't run without 3d accel09:43
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ctothejRadiantFire: know why fglrxinfo would tell me "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual" ?09:45
davidhouseis ~/.xinitrc automatically run? perhaps i need /etc/xinitrc?09:45
davidhouseor /etc/.xinitrc09:45
RadiantFireno09:45
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RadiantFireunless your not using the ati provided driver09:46
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dioplooking for f77 compiler09:46
ctotheji am using ati's driver09:46
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serenityhi09:49
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serenitywhen will kubuntu be downloadable?09:50
robotgeekserenity: you can download it off www.kubuntu.org09:51
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serenityrobotgeek: i mean 6.0609:53
domwhat irc clients are people using?09:53
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Kadranserenity: it supossed to be at 1st june so it 's a matter of ~5 hours09:53
serenityso it will definitly tomorrow?09:54
Kadrani hope so,09:55
Kadrandom: Konversation09:55
jorgpdom: konversation09:55
serenityfine. I thought that it will take longer to put kde on ubuntu09:55
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Shurikendom: Konversation :D09:56
DaSkreechserenity: Nope it's an apt-get kubuntu-desktop away :-)09:56
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Kadranserenity: you can now try kde 3.5.3 if you want09:56
jorgpis 3.5.3 out?09:57
xwolf-how many megabytes will breezy->dapper update take, approximately?09:57
Shuriken3.5.3 is out ?09:57
DaSkreechKDE4!!09:57
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domfar out09:57
jorgpI think there is a KDE4 preview scheduled for Sept09:58
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Kadranyes it is :)09:58
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jorgpis this still a valid bug? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/konqueror/+bug/3105509:59
ShurikenKadran: uh ? Where did you get the info ?09:59
Kadranfrom visik709:59
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Kadranand he use it,10:00
jorgpsorry, not Sept, but Oct10:00
jorgphttp://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-4.0-release-plan.html10:00
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DaSkreechjorgp: I'm pretty sure that's easy to prove wrong :)10:02
KadranShuriken: just add this to sources.list deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main10:02
ShurikenKadran: thanks. But why the info didn't appear on KDE planet ?10:03
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KadranShuriken: i am actually amaized my self i use a link to the latest kde but it don't point to 3.5.3 ?-)10:04
jorgpDaSkreech: what is easy to prove wrong?10:04
DaSkreechRandom release plans :)10:05
DaSkreechThough they have been booking it on the individual projects if you follow appeal10:05
Shurikenso do I, kde-latest point to 35210:06
Shuriken+s10:06
Kadranme too10:06
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DaSkreech`Mornfall is the adept maintainer correct?10:06
Shurikenis 3.5.3 a finale release ?10:07
crazy_penguinnight all!10:07
serenityi have installed kde 3.5.310:07
Kadran3.5.3 is officially to be out at 23rd of may !10:08
jorgpwell, 3.5.3 tarballs are in testing, but the guys in #kde-devel say its not official released yet10:08
jorgphaving packages != released10:09
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ShurikenOk, that's whay i've never heard about it before10:09
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xwolf-how many megabytes will breezy->dapper update take, approximately?10:09
Shuriken-a10:09
jorgpthey said kde.org will be updated when its out10:10
Kadranjorgp: i am waiting :)10:10
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DaSkreechMan am I going to be dissappointed when this comes out :-(10:11
visik7jorgp: but sources are in the stable brench on ftp10:11
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jorgpKadran: actually 3.5 branch was tagged 3.5.3 on 23rd may, not released10:12
jorgpvisik7: hmm10:12
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jorgpvisik7: but they might not be the final tarballs, having packages != released10:16
DaSkreechWhen can we get Oxygen?10:16
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visik7jorgp: I couldn't wait :)10:18
jorgpwell, it probably does have tons of fixes10:19
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DaSkreechIf I go 64 bit with LInux can I run a mix of 32 bit and 64 bit apps?10:22
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kmonDaSkreech: you'll need to set up a chroot10:25
ReonDaSkreech,  yes but it is a biatch10:25
DaSkreechSo does kubuntu have a 64 bit repo?10:26
kmonsure10:26
DaSkreechwhere would I find the list?10:26
kmonkubuntu supports x86, amd64 & powerpc archs10:26
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kmonlist?10:27
kmonare you refering to the download site?10:27
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visik7sparc ia64 and hppa from dapper (according to repos)10:28
kmonvisik7: yeah... but I'm mostly refering to the "common" ones10:29
apokryphosDaSkreech: the same repository is used for all of them10:31
apokryphosapt determines which packages you need for you10:31
DaSkreechkmon: The sources.list entry10:32
DaSkreechapokryphos: really?10:33
DaSkreechthat's pretty smart :)10:33
apokryphosyes10:33
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lmhhi all10:33
lmhhow can i set up grub to boot my console with 1040x1050 - resolution?10:33
DaSkreechNow all it needs is a changelog and I'm besotted10:34
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DaSkreechwell possibly a hint as to which repo a package is in10:34
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DaSkreechHmm Plasma is behind schedule10:35
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DaSkreechhow does pdiff work?10:37
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jorgpvisik7: how is 3.5.3 vs 3.5.210:38
visik7the 2 things that I've noticed more is better imap in kmail10:38
visik7and faster konqueror startup10:38
jorgpkonq startup is a plus10:39
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visik7jorgp: a plus ?10:41
visik7jorgp: btw there is the changelog10:42
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jorgpvisik7: the faster startup10:44
jorgpvisik7: where is the changelog10:46
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bahbahbahhow much longer until dapper is out? that's 00:00 GMT, right? ;-)10:46
crimsunbahbahbah: 11 hours-ish10:47
ealmAmarok doesn't play my mp3:s (though ogg works).. it just jumps past the mp3s in a second, and they appear as it they're played10:47
PyroMithrandir!mp310:47
ubotump3 is, like, totally, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:47
PyroMithrandirealm^^10:47
bahbahbahealm: have a google for easyubuntu...10:47
DaSkreechWhat about musicbrainz10:47
DaSkreechis there a easy way to get that with MP3 support?10:48
ealmwhat's that?10:48
bahbahbahDaSkreech: easyubuntu...10:48
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=== jorgp blames redhat for the mp3 removal stuff
DaSkreechbahbahbah: Really?10:48
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bahbahbahDaSkreech: really!10:49
DaSkreechI've never quite understood what the big deal with MP3 is10:49
DaSkreechIf we can use Mono we can use MP310:49
jorgpit all started with redhat10:49
jorgpthey where the first to make a release without mp3 support10:49
DaSkreechI know10:50
bahbahbahDaSkreech: not really. frauenhofer (that owns the mp3 format) wants those who make players to pay them a fee if I'm not misstaken.10:50
kmonDaSkreech: not really. MP3 is patent encumbered, .NET is an ECMAC Standard10:50
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DaSkreechBut they don't ship with Mono either and it has the same ramification as MP3 and no one else seems to care10:50
DaSkreechkmon: C# is a standard10:51
DaSkreechSlight difference10:51
kmonthe clr10:51
kmonas well10:51
jorgpso can I just apt-get kubuntu-desktop to switch to kubuntu10:52
jorgpfrom ubuntu10:53
jorgpdapper10:53
kmonjorgp: yes, but installing the kubuntu-desktop package doesn't unintall the ubuntu one10:53
kmonso you'll end up with both10:53
jorgpthats ok10:54
DaSkreechI thought it was funny you remove the Kubuntudesktop but not the ubuntu one :)(10:54
CaBlGuYwell, the "ubuntu one" as u guys keep saying.. is the defualt win X environment..10:54
ealmthanx guys for EasyUbuntu. (K/Edu)ubuntu is the sh*t!!!!!10:54
CaBlGuYthe Okey~Dokey! "desktop" environment is just an add on..10:54
CaBlGuYerr K, I mena..10:55
CaBlGuYmean.. theres also Gnome desktop environment..10:55
CaBlGuYit's not a "kubuntu" distro.. it's just an add on for the ubuntnu distro.10:55
DaSkreechI know10:56
DaSkreech like the Gnome desktop is the addon for the Ubuntu distro10:56
DaSkreechand the educational one10:56
DaSkreechand hopefully the E one :)10:57
CaBlGuYhehe10:57
DaSkreechbut you can remove the KDElibs package and everything kubuntu goes10:57
CaBlGuYI like the gnome "sleek" look..10:57
DaSkreechKinda hard to do that with the Gnome desktop10:57
CaBlGuYthe K. envirn is a bit more "demanding"..10:57
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morrow!skype11:01
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ubotuskype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/11:01
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nico8481hi11:05
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CaBlGuYwhat distro is Ubuntu based on? I can't member..11:11
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koshdebian11:11
klerfayt!debian11:11
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/11:11
DaSkreech!frostwire11:11
ubotuI heard frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWireHowTo11:11
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nicolehi. I've got troubles configuring my printer. I installed foo2zjs from here http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/11:12
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CaBlGuYHmMmMmMmM11:13
nicolebecause the shipped one didn't work "no permissions/driver not available" or something like that.11:13
CaBlGuYU looked for the driver for yor printer already?11:13
nicoleyeah. And it loads. And /sbin/foo2zjs-loadfw 1005 /dev/usb/lp0 says11:13
DaSkreechDoes Frostwire work on Java 5?11:14
nicoleMFG:Hewlett-Packard;MDL:hp LaserJet 1005 series;CMD:ZJS;CLS:PRINTER;DES:hp LaserJet 1005 series;FWVER:20021030;11:14
nicoleMFG:Hewlett-Packard;MDL:hp LaserJet 1005 series;CMD:ZJS;CLS:PRINTER;DES:hp LaserJet 1005 series;FWVER:20021030;11:14
nicole/sbin/foo2zjs-loadfw: HP LaserJet 1005 firmware already loaded into /dev/usb/lp011:14
nicolen11:14
nicolewhile lpq says11:14
CaBlGuYUmmm use pastebun when ya got somethin like that again...11:14
CaBlGuYWAIT..11:14
nicolelpq: error - no default destination available.11:14
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CaBlGuY!tell  nicole about pastebin11:14
BlankBmmm pastebuns.11:15
nicolefor three lines?11:15
CaBlGuY:|11:15
CaBlGuYdamn kids..11:15
CaBlGuY:p11:15
CaBlGuYwe try not to "take advantage" of the channel.11:15
CaBlGuYanyway...11:16
bahbahbahCaBlGuY: Pastebun? Like "I sneak past the bun" kind of bun? http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.amiga.misc/msg/f78b808c67b7bc37?q=BFINN&hl=en&lr=&rnum=111:16
CaBlGuYdoesn't look like the driver is loaded..11:16
DaSkreechAnyone use frostwire?11:16
CaBlGuYall it says is "firmware"...11:16
CaBlGuY:/11:16
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dracflamlocwhats a good kde ftp program like FlashFXP?11:17
nicoleI tried to install it via the systems setting printers thing. It claimed to work but it didnt.11:18
bahbahbahdracflamloc: konqueror? kbear?11:18
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dracflamloci'll try kbear i guess11:19
CaBlGuYHmMmMmMmM11:20
CaBlGuYnicole IM not the gugru on printers or installing them so, only thing I would know to tell ya is to try installin the driver again and be sure it's the correct one, other than that, ...11:20
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CaBlGuYsawwwreeee11:21
nicoleno problem.11:21
raven301_Where is the sources.list located?11:21
nicolethanks anywaz11:21
nicoleanyway.11:21
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DaSkreechBlast I was lied to!11:22
CaBlGuYnicole NP, someone should be able to help out eventually.. just hang out for a while..11:22
CaBlGuY!printers11:22
ubotuprinters is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org11:22
CaBlGuYor u can try there11:22
serenityhow to create a mpeg-file with digiKam, with photo and music?11:23
nicolewell. I fear I have to figure out the cups thingy11:23
nicoleand get around the bug in the graphic config tool.11:24
DaSkreechTwo things11:24
DaSkreechDoes anyone have Frostwire and is there a way to get musicbrainz with mp311:24
DaSkreech:-)11:24
CaBlGuYDaSkreech, I don't have frostwire, and not tried it, and not sure what musicbrainz iz.. :-p11:25
CaBlGuYU might try the main channel11:26
vinboyis xine better than gstreamer?11:26
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koshvinboy: usually11:26
vinboythx kosh11:27
koshvinboy: it is simpler and just seems to work a heck of a lot better11:27
koshvinboy: it can also do 7.1 audio output which I like :)11:27
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jorgpDaSkreech: deb http://archive.czessi.net/ubuntu/ dapper main universe11:30
DaSkreechCaBlGuY: The .. main channel?11:30
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DaSkreechjorgp: musicbrianz?11:30
jorgpDaSkreech: add that to sources.list11:30
CaBlGuYDaSkreech yea.. #ubuntu11:31
DaSkreechCaBlGuY: hahaha! :)11:31
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jorgpit has all the mp3 enabled stuff, like amarok 1.4 and musicbrainz w/ mp3 support11:31
CaBlGuY;)11:31
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YazzYhi u11:32
YazzYhi guys11:32
CaBlGuYYazzY Howdy U11:33
CaBlGuYhi d00d, d00det..11:33
CaBlGuY:p11:33
YazzYi have problems rebooting my toshiba satellite laptop, it says "Will reboot now" then debugging shows md:stopping allmd devices. Restarting system. No reboot fixup found for your hw.11:33
YazzYCaBlGuY: hi11:33
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YazzYwhat the heck it the metter with reboot not being able to work ?11:34
CaBlGuYHmMmMmMmM that's a wierd one..11:34
CaBlGuYwhat version ya runnin.. breezy or badger?11:34
kkathmanbreezy and badger are the same :)11:34
kkathmanyou mean breezy or dapper I think11:35
YazzYCaBlGuY: dapper11:35
YazzYbut the same issue was in breezy11:35
CaBlGuYummmmmm11:35
CaBlGuYno, there was badger, and one b4 it..11:35
CaBlGuYanyway..11:36
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CaBlGuYYazzY, can u get into the desktop environment, or command liine??11:36
DaSkreechjorgp: Who is in charge of this?11:36
CaBlGuYDaSkreech no one is "in charge"...11:37
YazzYCaBlGuY: sure11:37
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DaSkreechlol11:37
DaSkreechRight keep saying that :)11:37
CaBlGuYYazzY ok, I was gonna say, if you can get to the command line, do a apt-get update.. so if that helps..11:37
YazzYCaBlGuY: no, it did not11:38
YazzYi updated it a short while ago11:38
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CaBlGuYYazzY ahhh well then, U need someone more skilled then me.. :p11:38
brandon_does ktorrent support dht?11:39
jorgpDaSkreech: dunno11:41
jorgpbrandon_: not yet11:41
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DaSkreechjorgp: Will they have the updates for amarok?11:42
jorgpbrandon_: 1.3 will11:42
jorgpDaSkreech: yes, 1.4.0a11:42
DaSkreechSo should I get rid of the kubuntu repo that I'm using now?11:42
brandon_jorgp: when will that be released? i can't that damned azureus to work11:42
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jorgpbrandon_: I dont know, its been a long time and work is slow11:43
pj-og77Will kubuntu 6.06 LTS come out at the same time http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/182 as ubuntu?11:43
DaSkreechjorgp: Will it clash with the deb  http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main11:44
Snakepj-og77: yes11:44
pj-og77Ok. So now, why should I choose KDE over gnome? (I'm on a debian sarge with kde as my workstation for now)11:45
brandon_http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads11:45
Snakepj-og77: no reason to, just go with what you like :)11:46
brandon_looks liek there's a kubuntu deb in there11:46
jorgpDaSkreech: maybe11:46
DaSkreechok I'll disable it11:46
jorgpvisik7: svn was just updated 15 mins ago with this11:46
jorgpKDE 3.5.3 was released on May 31st, 200611:46
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visik7jorgp: ok11:47
vinboywhy i  can't see gstreamer in amarok & kaffeine?11:47
jorgp[16:29]  <CIA-19> adridg * r547116 /trunk/www/sites/www/info/3.5.3.php: Fix the release date11:47
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jorgpvinboy: if you are talking amarok 1.4, gstreamer is disabled11:47
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vinboyjorgp: oh ic..11:47
vinboythx11:47
DaSkreechjorgp: Can't connect to it11:47
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jorgpDaSkreech: I just did11:48
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visik7jorgp: any other changes a part from this ?11:48
jorgpno11:48
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visik7ok so no update for the sources11:48
jorgphttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/info/3.5.3.php?rev=547116&view=markup11:49
visik7nor for my installation11:49
DaSkreechjorgp: would they happen to have deb for it to download?11:49
jorgpDaSkreech: they should11:50
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DaSkreechjorgp: Ok .. so I have musicbrainz installed already should I just do a reinstall11:51
brandon_if i'm dpkg installing something, how would i force it to overwrite files from existing packages?11:51
jorgpbrandon_: man dpkg11:52
brandon_thanks11:52
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paveqhi11:57
paveqwhen?11:57
paveqofficial dapper11:57
paveq* me wants download *11:58
dvjA+++ WHOULD DO BUISNESS WITH AGAIN11:59
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visik7paveq: downoad rc11:59
visik7and install it11:59
visik7there are few updates11:59
paveqI have already12:00
visik7so enjoy it12:00
paveqwhats with alternative cd and "setting up automated deployments"12:00
paveqI'm interested12:00
paveqI got 15 comps to be installed12:01
paveqcomputer class :)12:01
paveqalternative kubuntu release candidate didn't work12:02
paveqcrc error, image's md5sum was correct12:02
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paveqand burnt twice with different recorders12:02
tinin!xgl12:02
ubotuI guess xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"12:02

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