[12:04] <apokryphos> edward_: are you on dapper or breezy?
[12:04] <edward_> is gstreamer0.10 not a good idea
[12:04] <Kadran> ok edward_ as apokryphos try installing libxine-extracodecs and good luck
[12:04] <edward_> I'm on Dapper
[12:04] <apokryphos> edward_: so enable the universe repository and install libxine-extracodecs
[12:04] <apokryphos> !repositories
[12:04] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> later people..
[12:04] <edward_> okay, I'll try that. Thanks ...
[12:05] <Kadran> thanks apokryphos
[12:05] <edward_> universe is enabled, but only libxine-main1 and lixinerama1 pop up
[12:05] <foodcoman> shoot the bunny
[12:05] <mardi> Kadran: ok, i can run skype from /usr/bin now, and i've run gdb with the your commands
[12:06] <mardi> what am i looking for in the gdb output?
[12:07] <Kadran> mardi: usually it tells you where the fault is happening as missing libraries or files and may be commands
[12:07] <edward_> Ah well, I'll try again tomorrow. Thanks.
[12:07] <apokryphos> edward_: oh sorry, they've put it in multiverse, not universe.
[12:08] <apokryphos> !info libxine-extracodecs dapper
[12:08] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: (the xine video/media player library, binary files), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 1148 kB, Installed size: 2976 kB
[12:08] <mardi> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] 
[12:08] <mardi> [New Thread -1222809920 (LWP 22002)] 
[12:08] <apokryphos> edward_: so just enable multiverse repository and get that package.
[12:08] <mardi> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] 
[12:08] <mardi> [New Thread -1222809920 (LWP 22002)] 
[12:08] <mardi> damn, sorry!
[12:08] <apokryphos> :)
[12:08] <Kadran> mardi: use pastepin
[12:08] <mardi> pastepin, ok
[12:09] <Kadran> !pastebin
[12:09] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[12:11] <edward_> apokryphos: Sorry if I'm being slow. I enable the multiverse in Adept, but it goes grey again when I fetch updates
[12:11] <apokryphos> edward_: you might have to hit "apply" or whatever
[12:11] <apokryphos> edward_: or you could do it manually -- close down adept then: alt+f2 -> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:11] <apokryphos> and add "multiverse" to every line that has "universe"
[12:12] <apokryphos> edward_: save, close it down, and then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[12:12] <mardi> Kadran: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14874
[12:13] <mardi> Kadran: ok, theres the message i get from gdb :)
[12:13] <edward_> apokryphos: I'm on it. I'll be back ...
[12:13] <apokryphos> sure
[12:13] <Kadran> mardi: just press enter to let gdb move forward in your code
[12:14] <word> ok so 2 problems....the bottom bar thing goes all fuzzy when i dock a window on it....and when I don't skip(ctrl+c) the Enterprise Volume Manager on startup kubuntu doesn't boot
[12:15] <Kadran> mardi: keep pressing enter untill you see the program running, then close it and gdb will tell you that the program exited normally, if there is a problem it will apear in the screen like missing library
[12:17] <mardi> Kadran: ok, "Program exited normally" but when i tried to initiate a call with gdb running it said "/dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy"
[12:18] <Bilford> I have a scripting question.  I made a script to download an image , and to set it as my wallpaper.  But the wallpaper function is only working if I run the script myself in a console.  The wallpaper function isnt working when the crontab runs it
[12:18] <Bilford> http://pastebin.com/747913
[12:18] <Kadran> mardi: that mean you have a problem with skype and your sound and this problem can be solved from skype preference
[12:19] <edward_> apokryphos: You are a star, Amarok lives! Thanks for your help. I'm getting there ... slowly ;-)
[12:19] <Kadran> Bilford: cool script :)
[12:19] <Bilford> Kadran, thx.  I had help
[12:19] <apokryphos> edward_: don't hesitate to come in and tell us about any other problems you have =)
[12:19] <Bilford> but, disregard the image.jpg name.  I only changed it for the PasteBin
[12:19] <mardi> Kadran: Starting Skype up again, do you have any suggestions about the preference?
[12:20] <word> apokryphos: The bottom half of my bleh...bar that holds the k menu is fuzzy if i dock a window on it...how can i fix t hat?
[12:20] <apokryphos> not sure what you mean
[12:20] <Kadran> Bilford: sorry don't count in me in scripting, i just loved the idea ;)
[12:20] <foodcoman> apokryphos: Another on the side of your plane.
[12:20] <word> i'll try and take a screen
[12:21] <mardi> Kadran: It says under "audio devices" that its using dev/dsp
[12:21] <apokryphos> foodcoman: sorry?
[12:21] <apokryphos> mardi: lsof /dev/dsp gives?
[12:22] <foodcoman> apokryphos: You killed another technical issue with remedy.  Pilots would put kills on the side of their plane to show how good of an ACE they are.
[12:22] <apokryphos> 8)
[12:22] <Kadran> mardi: actually when i was using skype some times it says the device is busy and some times it works fine but i wasn't interested in this problem as i have only used it twice or 3 times only
[12:22] <Kadran> but it works
[12:23] <Kadran> apokryphos: actually you are briliant
[12:23] <mardi> Kadran: It says "konqueror 10543 cheesecake   26u   CHR   14,3      7758 /dev/dsp"
[12:23] <Cosmo_1847> Hello, Can anyone give me a link to a page that tells me how to network kubuntu 5.10 to OSX 10.4.6 ?
[12:23] <Kadran> hey mardi kill this process
[12:23] <word> apokryphos: Ok nevermind that one i can live with...the other problem i have is when kubuntu boots up if I don't skip (ctrl+c) the entireprise volume manager then it won't boot..it starts throwing some I/O errors. this is a new problem it wasn't doing this before so i don't know what's wrong...
[12:23] <apokryphos> mardi: either kill konqueror or kill -9 10543
[12:24] <mardi> ok, killing it
[12:24] <apokryphos> word: for screenshots you can use alt+f2 -> ksnapshot btw
[12:24] <apokryphos> word: enterprise volume manager? Is that some gnome thing?
[12:24] <word> apokryphos: No, it's something that boots up with kubuntu.
[12:25] <Bilford> for screenshots, just press  PrintScreen
[12:25] <apokryphos> word: are you on dapper?
[12:25] <mardi> OMG Thank you apokryphos and Kadran - its working!!
[12:25] <word> And the ksnapshot wasn't catching the fuzziness so whatever..............yes apokryphos.
[12:25] <apokryphos> word: not imagining it? ;-)
[12:26] <word> apokryphos:  no :P
[12:26] <apokryphos> word: I guess the I/O problem could be down to a buggy enterprise volume manager package then, not sure. When was the last time you upgraded?
[12:26] <word> i didn't upgrade i killed the partition i had linux on and did a fresh install of lkubuntu dapper
[12:27] <word> I did it uh 3 days ago
[12:27] <apokryphos> word: try doing a dist-upgrade now, and see if the problem persists.
[12:27] <Jack_Sparrow> What is the easiest way to backup your full kubuntu partition?
[12:27] <word> a dist-upgrade? o.O
[12:27] <Jack_Sparrow> dd it to another partition?
[12:27] <apokryphos> word: hard to know what's really going wrong without the exact error output
[12:28] <apokryphos> word: yup, just: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:28] <apokryphos> or you can use adept
[12:28] <word> it happens before copy the os starts so can't exactly copy paste :P
[12:28] <apokryphos> Fetch updates, then full upgrade, or whatver it's called
[12:28] <apokryphos> word: yeah, I understand
[12:31] <word> apokryphos: There was nothing to upgrade :-/
[12:32] <word> and these problems started after i ran the live cd version of gparted to resize my partitions...before doing anything it scanned for bad sectors and told me i had one...then i ran another program and it said ididnt...then i went back into linux and i found these probs..
[12:32] <apokryphos> I forget what the setup of the startup of kubuntu is like
[12:32] <apokryphos> do you have a /var/log/boot.msg?
[12:33] <word> just tried to open it in kate...it opened but it's blank
[12:33] <apokryphos> doesn't exist then
[12:33] <apokryphos> hm, can't really do anything without knowing the exact errors really, I'm afraid
[12:34] <apokryphos> sounds like a bug though
[12:34] <word> Well i suppose it could also have coincided with a kubuntu update....
[12:34] <word> I believe i updated kde-desktop right before all this started o.O
[12:36] <StR> hi there.. anyone has ben able to run XGL with kubuntu?
[12:37] <obscurite> Anyone know how to disable the bluetooth daemon? If I try to apt-get remove kdebluetooth it says it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop.
[12:38] <ShastaMaroon> What is the kubuntu equivalent of synaptic?  adept?
[12:38] <Kadran> obscurite: try remove blutooth from adept
[12:39] <obscurite> kadran - sorry... adept?
[12:40] <apokryphos> ShastaMaroon: yes
[12:40] <ShastaMaroon> thanks
[12:41] <silje> Do anyone know if there are any kernel updates in the newest kubuntu version
[12:42] <Kadran> obscurite: never mind the add/remove manager
[12:42] <silje> Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper drake)
[12:42] <obscurite> kadran - checking kcontrol. not seeing much yet
[12:43] <Kadran> obscurite: oh sorry i have mixed up
[12:43] <Kadran> it is adept_installer
[12:43] <Kadran> obscurite: type kdesu adept_installer
[12:43] <Bilford> tj9991, did your storage problem magically fix itself yet
[12:43] <NF4> hello I installed kubuntu today useing synaptic from ubuntu every thing went smooth expect now  under gnome the logout dosent have any options like reboot,shutdown,logout ect..
[12:44] <NF4> is there any way to fix that
[12:44] <tj9991> Qill
[12:44] <tj9991> stop pasting the same thing
[12:44] <Bilford> Im never going back to Toadwater
[12:44] <Death2Peer> how do you add repositories in Kubuntu ?
[12:44] <Bilford> paste it into your sources list
[12:45] <Death2Peer> *n00b question here* and where is that?
[12:46] <Chousuke> Death2Peer: you can use adept for that I think
[12:46] <r0xz> Deatch2peer: be moddifying /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:46] <Chousuke> it's a nice GUI for package management
[12:46] <r0xz> *by (sry, &drunk; )
[12:48] <ShastaMaroon> goddamn ATI made their stupid window so tall without scrollbars I can't get to ubuntu and hit ok
[12:48] <joch> alt-drag it
[12:49] <ShastaMaroon> ah, nifty
[12:49] <ShastaMaroon> its still a huge window
[12:49] <ShastaMaroon> what were they thinking?
[12:49] <joch> good question
[12:49] <dom> probably that they could afford to fire a bunch of UI designers
[12:49] <Bilford> How do I make Konversation windows transparent
[12:51] <Bilford> How do I make Konversation windows transparent using Alt+F3
[12:51] <obscurite> Kadran - adept removed kubuntu-desktop. fortunately i knew to check this and re-installed it
[12:51] <obscurite> (also i don't have a customized desktop to lose, so no big deal)
[12:52] <petrik> has anyone had any experience of not being able to get to admin mode because of some dcopserver error?
[12:52] <Kadran> obscurite: oh i am sorry for this i ment 'kdesu adept_installer', and search for blutooth
[12:53] <obscurite> kadran, only see adept-updater and adept. nothing like adept_installer on apt
[12:55] <Kadran> obscurite: press 'alt+F2' then type 'kdesu adept_installer'
[12:55] <Kadran> it will start the add/remove programs and will safely remove the bluetooth
[12:56] <obscurite> kadran - command adept_installer not found
[12:56] <obscurite> kadran - i'm on breezy. are you on dapper or something?
[12:57] <Kadran> obscurite: yes i use dapper
[12:57] <obscurite> kadran - that's probably it
[12:57] <Kadran> obscurite: i c, is breezy is more stable than dapper?
[12:59] <MacSlow> re
[01:00] <obscurite> kadran - i havne't used dapper yet. it's never crashed on me in about 3-4 months though
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> How long should it take superkaraumba to load liquidweather for the first time?
[01:00] <skipster23> question- in my add romove programs some of the stuff is gray, how can i activate them to be installed
[01:00] <obscurite> kadran - how stable has dapper been for you?
[01:00] <MacSlow> Is there any special trick needed to get kwin's built-in compositing-manager to start-up with nvidia's closed source driver?
[01:00] <Kadran> Jack_Sparrow: around 2 min
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[01:01] <Kadran> obscurite: i think it 's great i was using mandriva and now i can't live with out kubuntu
[01:02] <Kadran> i hated the lazy update in mandriva
[01:03] <MasterEvilAce> KUUUBUNTUUUU
[01:04] <skipster23> in adept installer some of the programs are grayed out how can i activate them to be installed
[01:04] <Kadran> is there is a program that works like stardict?
[01:04] <Kadran> skipster23: i have some grayed but the are grayed because they conflict with some installed other programs
[01:05] <skipster23> well i would like to get GStreamer to work so i can listen to mp3's
[01:06] <Kadran> skipster23: you can try xine if it is ok?
[01:06] <visik7> hi
[01:06] <visik7> i've 2 wireless config one at home and one at uni
[01:06] <visik7> (campus)
[01:06] <skipster23> nope it's grayed too
[01:07] <visik7> how can I manage this 2 config
[01:07] <visik7> ?
[01:08] <Kadran> skipster23: ok let's try this, open the konsole and try to install the pkg you want in command line to see which pkg prevent it from being installed
[01:09] <r0xz> visik7: kwlan?
[01:09] <r0xz> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=37041
[01:09] <visik7> r0xz: kwlan handle wpa ?
[01:10] <r0xz> visik7: yes
[01:10] <visik7> it isn't in dapper
[01:10] <visik7> handle dapper wpa config ?
[01:10] <visik7> I've a config wpa-options in interfaces
[01:11] <skipster23> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:11] <skipster23> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:11] <skipster23> Reading package lists... Done
[01:11] <skipster23> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:11] <skipster23> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer
[01:13] <Kadran> skipster23: oh that's why they are all grayed
[01:13] <obscurite> On the default breezy kubuntu install I was running about 500mb with a handful of programs running. after turning off unneeded services I'm using 403mb of ram running 3xkonsole, gimp, inkscape, monodevelop, apache/mono, xchat, xmaxima, 2xfirefox, kcontrol, gaim, kontact, oo writer
[01:14] <obscurite> amazing what a little tweaking does
[01:14] <r0xz> visik7: knetworkmanager can do it also
[01:14] <r0xz> visik7: knetworkmanager is in repository
[01:14] <Kadran> skipster23: you are opening adept in user mode not super user mode
[01:14] <Kadran> try this 'kdesu adept'
[01:14] <visik7> r0xz: doesn't handle 8021X
[01:14] <visik7> only wpa
[01:18] <r0xz> visik7: i've no experience with 8021X, sry
[01:18] <visik7> r0xz: wpa_supplicant handle it and also interfaces(5)
[01:19] <visik7> maybe I've to undestand mapping under interfaces(5)
[01:25] <steven_> apokryphos->Are you online?
[01:27] <steven_> I finally got the theme manager figured out. But the Redmond splash screen wont work for some reason. What gives?
[01:27] <steven_> No splash screen seems to work actually.
[01:31] <obscurite> anyone notice that kde themes seem to have more "lines" than gnome? i was using a metacity theme on gnome that seemed cleaner. i think i prefer kde, but i wonder if i'll find a theme that's as visually clean
[01:34] <steven_> Ok, probably a really stupid question but how do I change my name?
[01:34] <mardi> Kadran: thanks for your help with skype
[01:35] <Kadran> mardi: you are welcome any time
[01:35] <M00N3D> Nevermind
[01:36] <mardi> Skype works now but Konqueror keeps taking over /dev/dsp, i have to killall konqueror to reconnect between calls
[01:36] <ubuntu> hello?
[01:36] <ubuntu> anyone here?
[01:36] <MasterEvilAce> no
[01:36] <ubuntu> i need help
[01:36] <obscurite> mardi - is there a setting in skype to make it respect and use artsd?
[01:37] <MasterEvilAce> okay what is it
[01:37] <ubuntu> the install won't work
[01:37] <MasterEvilAce> any errors?
[01:37] <ubuntu> i'm on the kubuntu beta 2 live cd and when i click next it just closes
[01:37] <mardi> obscurite: not that i can see
[01:37] <obscurite> mardi - i had that same problem in gnome with apps competing for audio. the trick was to use the gnome audio manager (which is only supported by some apps, not all)
[01:37] <ubuntu> has anyone had that before?
[01:38] <ubuntu> why would it just close?
[01:38] <obscurite> mardi - in both kde and gnome, apps that don't use the desktop specific audio manager are going to have audio problems
[01:38] <silje> i have a old kernel, that doesnt quite support my hardware
[01:38] <ubuntu> i'm on the 64 bit version
[01:38] <silje> i cant get internet
[01:38] <silje> neither wired or wireless works
[01:38] <silje> but i tried another distro
[01:38] <ubuntu> i also tried SuSE 10 and that woudn't work either
[01:38] <mardi> obscurite: i'll try it with oss -m ./skype?
[01:38] <ubuntu> i got this error, and i checked the cd's and they were fine
[01:39] <silje> it worked, because it was running 2.6.14, wich works, 2.6.15 gives me a error when i boot it, so it wont install
[01:39] <silje> but ive managed to install a old kernel
[01:39] <silje> 2.6.12
[01:39] <silje> but as I said before
[01:39] <silje> it doesnt support neither of my network cards
[01:39] <silje> how is it possible to upgrade kernel
[01:39] <obscurite> mardi - i think you need to use the artsdsp command
[01:40] <mardi> obscurite: oh oh yeh, that one
[01:40] <silje> iv downloaded a kernel
[01:40] <silje> on another computer
[01:40] <silje> and burned it
[01:40] <silje> do i need compilator programs?
[01:41] <M00N3D> Ok, how exactly do I go about setting Konversation automatically enters my password to the server on startup?
[01:41] <joch> silje: you need make, gcc, libc6-dev etc.
[01:41] <obscurite> silje - build-essentials
[01:41] <obscurite> why would you need to "burn" a kernel?
[01:42] <obscurite> no network support on your install target?
[01:45] <Vose> can I get Java web start for adept?
[01:49] <obscurite> anyone have any trouble with amarok on breezy?
[01:51] <goldenear> obscurite: which version of amarok ?
[01:53] <obscurite> goldenear - 1.3.1 but i have a lead now
[01:55] <goldenear> obscurite: you should upgrade your system
[01:56] <obscurite> goldenear - got 1.3.1 to work in the meantime
[01:58] <akram> hi*
[01:59] <Kadran> hi
[02:00] <Kadran> guys i have 1.4.0 and it work fantastik
[02:00] <Kadran> i think obscurite it is the time to upgrade
[02:02] <obscurite> kadran - is there a package? or did you download and build?
[02:03] <Kadran> obscurite: i have added the kde respoteries from source-o-matic
[02:04] <Kadran> and it works cool
[02:04] <obscurite> kadran - cool, i'll check it
[02:04] <kkathman> does anyone have a suggestion of an OSS proggie that will allow me to view all pictures in a directory and zoom in, and then move/delete them ?
[02:04] <kkathman> other than konqueror :)
[02:07] <Kadran> kkathman: i think you can use Gwenview
[02:07] <mardi> Can anyone tell me how to restart ALSA/sound server?
[02:07] <obscurite> mardi - killall artsd
[02:08] <mardi> I just turned off Skype (working fine) and now the microphone is still "on".. can hear the computer and stuff through the speakers.
[02:09] <mardi> The killall artsd didn't do the trick
[02:09] <Kadran> mardi: mute the mic in kmix
[02:09] <obscurite> okay, i am doing an apt-get upgrade from backports. amarok is being updated but i'm not sure if it'll be 1.4
[02:09] <mardi> Kadran: Will we have to do that every time?
[02:10] <|brad|> add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main    to the source list
[02:10] <|brad|> there is an offical package
[02:10] <obscurite> brad - ahh ok
[02:11] <Kadran> mardi: no just stop the mic sound to apear in the speaker, it will still be loud
[02:11] <obscurite> brad - darn, nothing for breezy :)
[02:12] <|brad|> nope, the main site said packages from dapper
[02:12] <mardi> Kadran: Aaaah, beautiful, wish we could do the same on the XP machine upstairs. :P
[02:12] <|brad|> from = for.... i spent too much time in the sun today
[02:13] <Vose> I am trying to install (My first unixe app install) Java web start it said to "cd usr/java" to creat folder but when I try that comand I get the error folder does not exist?
[02:16] <Kadran> is there is a frontend for festival?
[02:24] <visik7> anyon e use knemo ?
[02:25] <Kadran> visik7: i like AIO theme in superkaramba more than knemo
[02:25] <Kadran> i think it 's for windows user
[02:26] <intelikey> i can't seem to get konsole to open a bash session from the menu or shortcut icon.   it only opens  /bin/sh    i can then type bash  and have a bash session,   i have set the  settings > config konsole > session    to execute /bin/bash  and session=linux console   but it's still /bin/sh when it starts....    any help ?
[02:26] <visik7> i don't like superkaramba
[02:29] <intelikey> i even tried rm /bin/sh   and made a shell warper called /bin/sh  that read  /bin/bash $*      but konsole seems to have a test of some sort that won't let it start sh if it's not a symlink
[02:29] <Kadran> intelikey: check user settings
[02:30] <intelikey> Kadran more info ?
[02:30] <intelikey> user settings   where Kadran ?
[02:30] <Kadran> open 'user & groups' and check if the default shell is /bin/bash
[02:31] <Kadran> yes from the system settings
[02:31] <intelikey> hmmmm i don't have any such app
[02:31] <Kadran> do you use dapper?
[02:31] <intelikey> yea
[02:32] <Kadran> type systemsettings
[02:32] <Kadran> or go forward for kuser
[02:33] <intelikey> $ systemsettings
[02:33] <intelikey>  /bin/sh: systemsettings: not found
[02:33] <h3sp4wn>  /bin/sh is bash
[02:33] <intelikey> no it's dash
[02:33] <intelikey> it is a symlink
[02:33] <Kadran> it 's a symlink to bash actually
[02:33] <intelikey> could be bash dash tcsh.....
[02:34] <intelikey> no it's a symlink to dash    here.
[02:34] <Kadran> intelikey: 'kdesu kuser'
[02:34] <h3sp4wn> exec sh && echo $SHELL (I get /bin/bash)
[02:34] <intelikey>  kuser
[02:34] <intelikey>  /bin/sh: kuser: not found
[02:34] <luksan> intelikey: install kdeadmin
[02:35] <obscurite> anyone use an irc client aside from xchat for kde?
[02:35] <intelikey> that's not desireable.  or nessary.   i don't even have to use konsole.   but thanks for the  "long answer"  anyway.
[02:35] <obscurite> something with kde integration might be fun to play with (like to display what's playing in amarok)
[02:35] <luksan> obscurite: Konversation
[02:35] <obscurite> luksan - cool thanks
[02:36] <luksan> no integration with amaroK
[02:36] <orangey> obscurite: konversation.
[02:36] <obscurite> how do you think konversation compares to xchat
[02:37] <luksan> obscurite: i just like the KDE integration, i don't know how much different it is
[02:37] <Janitux> :D
[02:40] <Lt-Elmo> evening all
[02:41] <neofax99> Hello everyone!
[02:41] <Lt-Elmo> :)
[02:42] <Lt-Elmo> new kubuntu user here
[02:42] <neofax99> having a problem with ndiswrapper on Dapper rc1 with a WG111 usb nic
[02:43] <Kadran> good night every one, :)
[02:50] <NewToKubuntu> how come the uname -r and uname -m give me two different versions  of my machine ....one says 386 and other one says 686
[02:51] <NewToKubuntu> does anyone know ?
[02:51] <Kyral> Arch vs. what it was compiled agains
[02:52] <NewToKubuntu> ohh
[02:52] <NewToKubuntu> thanks Kyral
[02:54] <rexykik> !nvidia
[02:54] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:54] <rexykik> did that and it doesn't work :(
[02:58] <buldi> irc.homelien.no
[02:59] <visik7> anyone is able to enable context submenu on knemo icons ?
[03:19] <UzzaDead> anyone available to give some help on getting my wireless card going? i've tried the wiki and such but no luck
[03:21] <PyroMithrandir> !wireless
[03:21] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[03:21] <PyroMithrandir> have you tried those, UzzaDead?
[03:21] <UzzaDead> indeed i have..
[03:21] <UzzaDead> it loaded the driver but it was supposed to state the hardware was present and it didnt so im stumped
[03:22] <UzzaDead> and its also pcmcia not PCI so i dont think lspci would list my card, being a relative noob doesnt help :)
[03:22] <PyroMithrandir> well, I don't have experience with linux and wireless, so I can't help you
[03:23] <UzzaDead> thanks anyway
[03:30] <obscurite> anyone know of a konversation package for breezy?
[03:30] <obscurite> (0.19)
[03:31] <obscurite> i saw a .deb on the konversation project page, but wasn't sure if i should attempt it
[03:38] <ctothej> hey fellas, my kubuntu dapper installer keeps hanging on me. is there anything i can do?
[03:38] <ctothej> im on the live cd now, performing the install from here
[03:43] <obscurite> anyone find that memory requirements are greater or less in dapper vs breezy overall?
[03:43] <crimsun> greater.
[03:43] <crimsun> more bling, more memory required.
[03:43] <obscurite> is that only if you set up xgl, or by default?
[03:44] <obscurite> not xgl necessarily, but whatever the new eye candy is
[03:44] <crimsun> by default
[03:44] <obscurite> hmm, i wonder how much. every app i could want to run fits in about 525mb right now.
[03:45] <obscurite> I'm thinking about getting a small machine that has 512mb
[03:46] <obscurite> not that 512mb is bad, just that i run a ton of apps and dont want to swap like mad :)
[03:49] <ctothej> I get this error when installing: "failed to create a file system". help would be much appreciated
[03:50] <PyroMithrandir> ctothej, sounds like it's a problem with your hard drive
[03:51] <PyroMithrandir> could it be a bad drive?
[03:52] <ctothej> Its a SATA hard drive. It should be able to handle it right? It says creating ext3 file system ... SCSI4 (0,0,0) sdb
[03:52] <ctothej> ive used it before so i dont think so
[03:52] <FHX> =.= how long does it take to upgrade to dapper?
[03:53] <PyroMithrandir> ctothej, well, if you've used it before then I don't know, man
[03:53] <PyroMithrandir> ctothej, you could try a different file system, and see if it can use reiser or something
[03:56] <ctothej> does the installer have problems with sata?
[03:56] <PyroMithrandir> not that I know of
[04:00] <mike__> Bonsoir a tous!
[04:01] <Whisky> Whats Kubuntu? Whats different from Ubuntu ?
[04:01] <mike__> using konkeror
[04:01] <mike__> not gdm
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> What is the best program for wecam or video chat?
[04:02] <james_xxx> i am running kubuntu and have six desktops configured... but oddly, when i swich to desktop two, i have gnome instead of KDE and i cannot figure out how to switch it back. would anyone have a suggestion?
[04:02] <mike__> Someone  can help me? I just installed kubuntu but my mic don't work
[04:02] <Whisky> mike__: Cant you just install KDE on Ubuntu? KDE+Ubuntu=Kubuntu ?
[04:02] <MasterEvilAce> Kubuntu comes with KDE yeah
[04:03] <macd> KDE+Ubuntu = Kubuntu = Gnome
[04:03] <macd> Kubuntu + Gnome
[04:03] <Whisky> Gnome? Where did that come from
[04:03] <macd> my mistake :P
[04:04] <macd> Ubuntu typicly has gnome ....unless you choose the ubuntu server setup
[04:04] <mike__> Whisky: No there is much more than that! there is many things more I used ubuntu but I like more kubuntu
[04:04] <macd> so KDE + Ubuntu would = Kubuntu + Gnome....
[04:04] <RandomDude15> hey I need help
[04:05] <mike__> hi RandomDude15
[04:05] <robotgeek> RandomDude15: ask away
[04:05] <Whisky> k :P
[04:05] <RandomDude15> k. I can't seem to get on downloads sent on badongo.net in firefox.
[04:05] <RandomDude15> and I get on them in windows.
[04:05] <mike__> robotgeek: I just installed kubuntu and my mic don't work do you know what I can do ?
[04:05] <RandomDude15> and I'd like to hava java installed in firefox too and make my GTK programs look good in KDE.
[04:05] <RandomDude15> if its not too much trouble I'd like that.
[04:05] <robotgeek> RandomDude15: "ping badongo.net"
[04:06] <robotgeek> mike__: is it unmuted in kmix
[04:06] <RandomDude15> I can get on badongo but my friend uploaded something for me on it.
[04:06] <RandomDude15> and I can't get it.
[04:06] <mike__> robotgeek:  YES
[04:06] <RandomDude15> http://www.badongo.net/vid/131634
[04:06] <jessica__> you need to activate full duplex.
[04:07] <jessica__> RandomDude15: to make GTK apps look better then garbage get dapper, it uses your KDE theme as the theme for GTK
[04:08] <james_xxx> this is weird, on desktop number 2 i have the GNOME desktop with the KDE panel... i wish i knew how the heck to fix that
[04:09] <RandomDude15> ok but how do I get java on firefox?
[04:09] <robotgeek> RandomDude15, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:09] <PyroMithrandir> !java
[04:09] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:11] <james_xxx> ok now i switched to having one desktop and all i have is NOME with NO panel at all
[04:11] <james_xxx> GNOME
[04:11] <RandomDude15> does that install it into firefox too?
[04:12] <crabgrass> adept has problems with interactive text responces
[04:13] <james_xxx> ok i could use some help here
[04:13] <james_xxx> my panel is gone and i have a GNOME sektop... and the frame for this window is gone
[04:14] <james_xxx> i think i need to reboot but i can't
[04:15] <robotgeek> RandomDude15: yes
[04:15] <james_xxx> geesh
[04:15] <robotgeek> james_xxx: alt + f2
[04:15] <robotgeek> konsole
[04:15] <james_xxx> robot, that gives me the command line but no panel
[04:16] <james_xxx> ok
[04:16] <james_xxx> ok how do i shut down from the terminal
[04:16] <mike__> someone know why my mic don't work? I just installed kubuntu
[04:17] <RandomDude15> hmmm.
[04:17] <RandomDude15> I have a mic too dude.
[04:17] <RandomDude15> is it a headset mic?
[04:17] <RandomDude15> Mine is.
[04:17] <james_xxx> i am having very serious problems lol
[04:18] <RandomDude15> just type reboot?
[04:18] <james_xxx> i can't close any of these windows... or move them
[04:18] <robotgeek> james_xxx: type alt+f2, then type kwin
[04:19] <james_xxx> robotgeek: i will have to wait until what you typed scrolls up. i can't see it right now
[04:19] <Ahmuck> um, wow, i just killed kubuntu big time
[04:19] <Ahmuck> i need some help understanding what happened
[04:20] <Dasnipa`> what did you do? sudo rm /*
[04:20] <Ahmuck> no, i removed xine and xine related stuff.  seems that that is tied into kdm/x
[04:21] <james_xxx> this is really crazy
[04:21] <james_xxx> kubuntu meltdown
[04:21] <Ahmuck> anyhow, i have no menu
[04:22] <james_xxx> robotgeek: ok that did it... but i still have the GNOME desktop running on desktop 2... how do i change that back to KDE like the other desktops?
[04:23] <Dasnipa`> you sure you just removed xine stuff? and not anything related to x?
[04:23] <Ahmuck> well i tried to remove the xine stuff.  it asked if i wanted to shut down kdm and i said yes
[04:23] <Ahmuck> yes, i would say stuff related to x
[04:24] <robotgeek> james_xxx: not sure what you did
[04:24] <robotgeek> Ahmuck: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:24] <Ahmuck> i am working on the same system where it happened, but i don't have a taskbar, or any kde menu
[04:24] <Ahmuck> robotgeek: what happened.  i don't understand how kdm would be tied to xine
[04:24] <james_xxx> robotgeek: i don't think i did anything. i have 5 desktops that are KDE , but desktop number 2 is GNOME, but with a KDE panel
[04:25] <robotgeek> james_xxx: what do you mean deskotop 2 is gnome?
[04:25] <robotgeek> Ahmuck: not sure what you did, but installing kubuntu-desktop will give you back Kubuntu
[04:25] <erofee> hi all
[04:26] <erofee> how much effort will it be to upgrade from breezy to 6.06?
[04:26] <james_xxx> robotgeek: ok, i am running kubuntu, and i have it configured to have 6 desktops.... but for some strange reason, when i go to desktop #2 now, i have a GNOME desktop
[04:26] <erofee> just a simple apt-get or something more complicated?
[04:27] <robotgeek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades erofee
[04:27] <PyroMithrandir> james_xxx, desktops within KDE or desktops like xsessions?
[04:27] <nalioth> !upgrade
[04:27] <ubotu> I guess upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[04:27] <james_xxx> PyroMithrandir: desktops within KDE... like you click on in the panel
[04:28] <erofee> great, any idea how long it will be before it is officially released?
[04:28] <PyroMithrandir> james_xxx, in what way is desktop #2 a gnome desktop?
[04:28] <james_xxx> PyroMithrandir: it looks like GNOME it acts like GNOME...... it is UBUNTU instead of KUBUNTU
[04:29] <james_xxx> PyroMithrandir: but that is only desktop number 2
[04:29] <james_xxx> AND... the panel in desktop number 2 is the KDE panel
[04:29] <PyroMithrandir> james_xxx, that's really wierd
[04:29] <james_xxx> PyroMithrandir: REALLY weird
[04:29] <PyroMithrandir> wait, if the panel is the KDE panel that's not really gnome, then, is it?
[04:30] <james_xxx> PyroMithrandir: maybe not, but the desktop itself is totally GNOME...
[04:30] <PyroMithrandir> james_xxx, the desktop background picture? or what? can you take a screenshot?
[04:31] <james_xxx> PyroMithrandir: if i right-click on the desktop, i get GNOME menus, not KDE
[04:31] <james_xxx> i could try to do a screen shot
[04:31] <erofee> james_xxx, i think that is very cool
[04:31] <PyroMithrandir> james_xxx, you'll have to excuse me for being confused, I've never heard of anything like this before
[04:31] <erofee> i wish i could have a gnome desktop amongst my KDE's
[04:31] <Ahmuck> is there a way to get apt-get to run without the cd.  i seem to have misplaced it
[04:31] <james_xxx> PyroMithrandir: hey, this si new to me , too
[04:32] <PyroMithrandir> james_xxx, does it stay like this if you log out and log back in?
[04:32] <PyroMithrandir> Ahmuck, yeah, apt-get doesn't need the CD at all
[04:32] <erofee> Ahmuck: not sure what you are talking about
[04:32] <Ahmuck> it is requesting the cd
[04:32] <PyroMithrandir> oh, you want to turn that off?
[04:32] <Ahmuck> Media Change: Please insert the disc labelled
[04:32] <Ahmuck>  Kubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Beta i386 (20060420)
[04:32] <Ahmuck> in the drive /cdrom/ and press enter
[04:32] <james_xxx> PyroMithrandir: i will check and see. i have a screen shot now, where should i send it?
[04:33] <PyroMithrandir> it won't give you any problems, Ahmuck, it'll just ask for it
[04:33] <PyroMithrandir> james_xxx, DCC it to me
[04:33] <erofee> just hit enter
[04:33] <erofee> Ahumck
[04:33] <james_xxx> PyroMithrandir: lol i have no idea what DCC is
[04:33] <Ahmuck> it won't let me past that no matter how many times i hit enter
[04:33] <robotgeek> or you can use pastebin
[04:33] <PyroMithrandir> james_xxx, it's file transfer over IRC
[04:34] <robotgeek> !paste
[04:34] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[04:34] <robotgeek> james_xxx: use that url for images too
[04:34] <PyroMithrandir> yeah, that'll work fine :)
[04:34] <erofee> Ahmuck: load up adept and edit your repositories
[04:34] <james_xxx> robotgeek: ok
[04:34] <erofee> remove the entry for the cd rom
[04:35] <erofee> i think that will fix it
[04:35] <Ahmuck> /$ sudo adept
[04:35] <Ahmuck> sudo: adept: command not found
[04:36] <PyroMithrandir> Ahmuck, try synaptic
[04:36] <erofee> are you using KDE?
[04:36] <Ahmuck> yes
[04:36] <Ahmuck> how do i start k3b
[04:37] <Ahmuck> it would be in the /usr/bin correct ?
[04:37] <Ahmuck> er, kb3 ?
[04:37] <erofee> in your start menu under system (that is where you find adept
[04:37] <erofee> k3b is in multimedia in the start menu
[04:37] <erofee> sorry, the K menu
[04:37] <james_xxx> PyroMithrandir: here is the screen shot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14882
[04:37] <PyroMithrandir> yeah, or you can just type k3b
[04:37] <Ahmuck> bleh, no go either
[04:37] <erofee> that'll work
[04:37] <PyroMithrandir> in a terminal
[04:38] <erofee> or press alt+f2 and type it in there
[04:38] <PyroMithrandir> james_xxx, did you run nautilus on that desktop?
[04:38] <Ahmuck> k, how do i edit the apt-get repository using nano
[04:38] <PyroMithrandir> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:39] <PyroMithrandir> and comment out the CD one
[04:39] <PyroMithrandir> with #
[04:39] <erofee> can't remember the exact file, let me have a quick dig
[04:39] <james_xxx> PyroMithrandir: this will sound dumb, but how do i run nautilus
[04:39] <PyroMithrandir> well, nautilus is the gnome file browser
[04:40] <PyroMithrandir> and it is also what manages the desktop icons and stuff in gnome
[04:40] <erofee> the file you need to edit is /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:40] <james_xxx> PyroMithrandir: yeahm i know but i don't think i can access it. i have a KDE panel with a KDE meno.... but the desktop itself is GNOME, and if i right-click on the desktop , i get GNOME options
[04:40] <Ahmuck> ya !
[04:40] <PyroMithrandir> you'd run it by typing nautilus into a terminal or if there is a nautilus icon in one of the menus...
[04:41] <Ahmuck> well i am re-installing kubuntu destop, we will see how that goes
[04:41] <Ahmuck> btw, wonder why bluetooth is in the base install ?
[04:41] <erofee> did you install kubuntu directly, or installed ubuntu and download kde?
[04:41] <PyroMithrandir> james_xxx, upon up a terminal and type killall nautilus
[04:41] <james_xxx> PyroMithrandir: yeah, i have nautilus up
[04:41] <robotgeek> james_xxx: i think you have nautilus running
[04:42] <PyroMithrandir> ah well
[04:42] <PyroMithrandir> there you go
[04:42] <PyroMithrandir> :)
[04:42] <erofee> a lot of machines come with bluetooth nowadays
[04:42] <james_xxx> pyro, well no, i just stareted nautilis just now
[04:42] <PyroMithrandir> oh
[04:42] <PyroMithrandir> geeze
[04:42] <robotgeek> james_xxx: well, it is drawing the desktop, which gives you the gnome-menus
[04:42] <PyroMithrandir> I thought that the reason your desktop was like that was because nautilus was running
[04:42] <Ahmuck> erofee: kubuntu text beta 6.06 cd
[04:42] <Ahmuck> directly
[04:42] <erofee> ok
[04:43] <erofee> i am still on breezy
[04:43] <james_xxx> PyroMithrandir: ok killall did it, i have the KDE desktop back
[04:43] <james_xxx> lol
[04:43] <Ahmuck> this is an easy recover however considering how i have tanked some other distros
[04:43] <erofee> so if stuff i am saying doesn't make sense, that is why
[04:43] <Ahmuck> k, brb
[04:44] <PyroMithrandir> james_xxx, good. glad to know I'm right ;)
[04:44] <james_xxx> that was crazy, but... it would be really cool to switch back and forth between KDE and GNOME with just a click
[04:44] <erofee> yep, definately a cool feature
[04:45] <erofee> i would love to do it with other desktops too
[04:45] <erofee> i use edubuntu also
[04:45] <james_xxx> yeah, fluxbox xfce4 etc etc
[04:45] <PyroMithrandir> well, it wasn't that he was really running all of gnome on that KDE desktop
[04:45] <erofee> yeah
[04:45] <PyroMithrandir> the desktop was just being drawing the desktop
[04:45] <PyroMithrandir> erm
[04:45] <james_xxx> PyroMithrandir: no, i wasn't ... GNOME desktop with KDE panel... really whacked
[04:46] <PyroMithrandir> nautilus was just drawing the desktop
[04:46] <james_xxx> yeah
[04:46] <erofee> plus it would be a drain on swap space to have all dedsktops loaded and be able to switch
[04:46] <skipster23> i need to copy some codect to a write protected folder what sudo command do i use
[04:46] <PyroMithrandir> erofee, you can run gnome and KDE side by side with multiple x sessions
[04:46] <erofee> i just sudo konqueror and do it like that
[04:46] <james_xxx> erofee: but is that not what they are going to be doing in edgy? with the whole 3D cube thing?
[04:46] <PyroMithrandir> it's not recommended to do it with the same user account
[04:46] <nixternal> sudo cp codecs /director/where/you/want/to/copy
[04:47] <billytwowilly> Hi, anyone running dapper with xgl? I just tried the kororaa live cd and it is AWESOME!!
[04:47] <skipster23> thanks
[04:47] <nixternal> np
[04:47] <ctothej> when I try to install, it keeps freezing on loading /install/initrd.gz . anyone know why?
[04:47] <nixternal> thx billytwowilly for reminding me...i want to dl and give it a try
[04:47] <james_xxx> yeah XGL is what i was thinking of
[04:47] <PyroMithrandir> billytwowilly, try #ubuntu-xgl
[04:47] <billytwowilly> thanks.
[04:47] <PyroMithrandir> I tried it out about 2 months ago
[04:47] <PyroMithrandir> it's really cool, but it wasn't integrated enough into KDE for my taste
[04:48] <james_xxx> is XGL just a special effect?
[04:48] <PyroMithrandir> well, XGL is the X server
[04:48] <PyroMithrandir> !xgl
[04:48] <ubotu> methinks xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[04:48] <Ahmuck> well, it appears i am operating again, but crippled
[04:49] <Ahmuck> i seem to have lost my taskbar configuration and my konversation configuration as well
[04:55] <Ahmuck> k, it seems i have lost my settings, such as installed programs, etc.
[04:55] <ctothej> why would my system freeze when loading /install/initrd.gz before an install?
[04:56] <_nano_> billytwowilly: sadly I'm not sure if it would work on my old ati radeon 7500 card :(
[04:56] <billytwowilly> _nano_: it ran pretty good on my buddie's laptop, which has a roughly equivalent card...
[04:57] <billytwowilly> well, ever so slightly better card actually.
[04:57] <_nano_> billytwowilly: what was his card?
[04:57] <Ahmuck> heh, removing bluetooth from kubuntu also removes kubunt-desktop. :-(
[04:57] <_nano_> billytwowilly: wow this page claims it would work on my card!!
[04:58] <billytwowilly> mobility 9500? 8700? I'm not sure.
[04:58] <_nano_> billytwowilly: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL
[04:58] <billytwowilly> just download the kororaa livecd and give it a try. it was awesome.
[04:58] <_nano_> billytwowilly: my graphics card is like 32MB but my ram is 1gb..i hope this would work..what do you think?
[04:59] <billytwowilly> I dunno. download the livecd and try it out;)
[04:59] <billytwowilly> then let me know.
[04:59] <_nano_> billytwowilly: yeah will do :)
[04:59] <billytwowilly> _nano_: I'm now curious, so message me when you figure it out;)
[04:59] <_nano_> billytwowilly: thanks for the pointer though :D
[04:59] <imbrandon> _nano_, i have onboard video ( intel 845g ) and it worked like a charm ( live cd )
[04:59] <_nano_> billytwowilly: surely
[05:00] <_nano_> imbrandon: that's an integrated graphics card right?
[05:00] <imbrandon> yes
[05:00] <_nano_> imbrandon: wow that gives me hope :)
[05:00] <billytwowilly> _nano_: no problem. it's awesome, you'll be impressed, just make sure to download the kde cd, not the gnome one, I downloaded the gnome one, which wasn't as cool as kde would have been;)
[05:00] <jbgy88> hello Newb here
[05:00] <_nano_> jbgy88: so am i...welcome to the club :)
[05:00] <jbgy88> thank you
[05:00] <jbgy88> thank god nice people
[05:01] <bimberi> just wait till we get going :P
[05:01] <jbgy88> ok then
[05:07] <jbgy88> ok question sounds sad but i dont have Adept how would I install iot
[05:07] <jbgy88> it*
[05:07] <jbgy88> ?
[05:07] <erofee> apt-get
[05:07] <_nano_> sudo apt-get adept? (i use synaptic though)
[05:07] <_nano_> !adept
[05:07] <ubotu> adept is probably a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:08] <jbgy88> thank you?
[05:08] <jbgy88> noooo its a how to on how to download things using it!
[05:09] <erofee> sudo apt-get adept
[05:09] <jbgy88> nope not working either
[05:09] <erofee> try sudo aptitude
[05:10] <cfh_dev> What's a good dvd player for kde?  Something that supports dvd nav.
[05:10] <p00q> cfh_dev kaffeine
[05:11] <cfh_dev> Whenever I try to open Kaffeine, I get "kaffeine_part.desktop not found in search path"
[05:12] <jbgy88> its really slow now using aptitude
[05:13] <jbgy88> Nothing Nada oh well i'll try it tomorrow
[05:13] <Bilford_> using  Alt+F3, how do you make the  windows transparent   in Konversation
[05:14] <Bilford_> or how do you make the  windows transparent   in Konversation, period
[05:16] <_nano_> lol erofee I did a mistake and you repeated it :P ...sudo apt-get install adept :P
[05:21] <mike__> Someone know how to have more than one sound?
[05:24] <_nano_> mike__: you mean more than one sound apps running?
[05:28] <UzzaDead> anyone have a guide on updating/upgrading my kernel from 386 to 686
[05:28] <imbrandon> UzzaDead, just type "sudo apt-get install linux-686" then reboot, it does the rest for you
[05:29] <james_xxx> #kubuntu-xgl
[05:29] <james_xxx> sorry about that
[05:30] <imbrandon> james_xxx, #ubuntu-xgl ;)
[05:33] <mike__> _nano_:  I found it thx
[05:34] <UzzaDead> anyone know how i can switch from a 386 kernel to 686?
[05:37] <bimberi> UzzaDead: sudo aptitude install linux-686
[05:37] <bimberi> UzzaDead: or use adept :)
[05:37] <Celeste> hi
[05:37] <UzzaDead> bimberi i was trying to do the adept thing but was being stumped but i got it figured out i think, thanks anway :)
[05:37] <Celeste> I have a little question:
[05:37] <james_xxx> my comp has a celeron d chip... would there be value in installing the 686 kernel? i havethe 386 installed
[05:37] <james_xxx> ?
[05:38] <UzzaDead> probably james_xxx
[05:38] <bimberi> UzzaDead: np
[05:38] <UzzaDead> Celeste whats the question?
[05:38] <Celeste> on my windows laptop are 50 GB of Data ... and I have a  Kubuntu Workstation also here
[05:38] <james_xxx> UzzaDead: would it mess up my system if i switched to the 686 kernel?
[05:38] <Celeste> I do not have an external harddrive
[05:38] <UzzaDead> james_xxx i just switched from 386 to 686 i'll tell you in a sec
[05:38] <james_xxx> ok
[05:39] <UzzaDead> james_xxx also does the celeron D support HT?
[05:39] <Celeste> so I wondered if I can use an ethernet cable and directly transfer the data from the windows XP laptop to the kubuntu workstation
[05:39] <UzzaDead> Celeste sure you'd need to set up file sharing
[05:39] <james_xxx> UzzaDead: i don't think so, but i'm not sure
[05:39] <Celeste> UzzaDead, is this difficult?
[05:39] <m5m> erp I just broke firefox trying to upgrade using the wiki's FirefoxNewVersion page.  One pre-existing quirk on my system is that apt-get update errors out saying 'failed to fetch' one of the universe packages.  the error on running firefox is that it can't open the libstdc++.so.5 shared object file... any ideas?
[05:40] <UzzaDead> Celeste not very but i couldnt guide you
[05:40] <UzzaDead> james_xxx i dont believe it supports HT
[05:40] <UzzaDead> and switching from 386 to 686 worked for me
[05:40] <UzzaDead> no problems yet
[05:40] <UzzaDead> Celeste give this a try
[05:40] <UzzaDead> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29
[05:41] <UzzaDead> that looks like what you need/want to do
[05:42] <UzzaDead> james_xxx i'd say go ahead and switch to 686
[05:42] <james_xxx> sweet
[05:42] <m5m> nalioth: you think I should apt-get libstdc++5 if that's what FirefoxNewVersion is complaining it can't find?
[05:42] <UzzaDead> mines ticking along just fine
[05:42] <m5m> and hiya by the way too :-)
[05:42] <Celeste> thank you UzzaDead
[05:42] <UzzaDead> you're welcome Celeste
[05:45] <m5m> installing libstcd++5 did it, for anyone that was curious, it's unbroken now :-P
[05:55] <_nano_> !xgl
[05:55] <ubotu> xgl is probably "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[06:06] <Ahmuck> heh, removing kubuntu-desktop is interesting
[06:06] <Bilford> what happens
[06:06] <Bilford> can you see the insides of your monitor
[06:09] <Ahmuck> no, but the adept notifier icon goes away.  i think it must be similar to rh-desktop
[06:09] <Ahmuck> like an icon package, etc.
[06:15] <robin_> is there a list somewhere of whats new in 6.06
[06:16] <robin_> hello?
[06:16] <crimsun> robin_: there're wiki pages for the flights.
[06:16] <Ahmuck> installing xine-ui puts xine on the multimedia list twice
[06:18] <robin_> what the repository for wins32 codec
[06:19] <RadiantFire> robin_: you can use cypherfunk
[06:19] <bimberi> !codecs
[06:19] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[06:19] <robin_> not into that
[06:19] <RadiantFire> not into easysource?
[06:20] <RadiantFire> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic I use this to make a sources list
[06:20] <_chris> im using kde 3.4.2 on kubutu 5.10 and when i open konqueror in web browser mode and click on a link in a page it keeps popping up a dialog asking me if i want to save the linked page instead of going to the page. How can I fix this?
[06:20] <robin_> sorry i thought you where talkin dirty to me lol
[06:20] <RadiantFire> lol
[06:21] <dein> whats the terminal command for delete?
[06:21] <bimberi> dein: rm
[06:22] <dein> ok
[06:31] <james_xxx> ok i switched to the 686 kernel, seemingly without a glitch
[06:31] <ctothej_> how do i restart xserver?
[06:37] <mike__> hi
[06:38] <mike__> I cant mount my hard drive in stockage support
[06:38] <robin_> caan someone tell me what i need to do to get amarok to play mp3's?
[06:40] <crimsun> on breezy or dapper?
[06:40] <robin_> dapper
[06:40] <_nano_> !mp3
[06:40] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:40] <crimsun> install libxine-extracodecs from multiverse (you also need universe enabled)
[06:43] <Bilford> tj9991, when are you going to install Kubuntu
[06:43] <mike__> how can I mount my DG
[06:43] <mike__> HD*
[06:47] <stevekl> Does KDE have a taskbar aplet that displays CPU temp?
[06:47] <critter> hey, does anyone know a program which will extract a .img file to the hard drive
[06:48] <critter> i tried using growisofs but it only lets me burn the image
[06:49] <stevekl> Hm, you might be able to mount it with loopback
[06:49] <stevekl>  mount -o loop image.img /mnt/wherever/
[06:51] <critter> no dice
[06:51] <stevekl> then I have no clue heh
[06:52] <stevekl> sorry
[06:52] <critter> :-/
[06:52] <critter> burning it is fine, but for the sake of some dvd-r's id prefre to extract some of the movies right to my hard drive
[06:52] <stevekl> critter: Well, some movie players can just play the .img file directly
[06:52] <stevekl> critter: I *think* mplayer and vlc can do that
[06:53] <stevekl> Actually i'm sure mplayer can
[06:53] <critter> hmmm
[06:53] <critter> alright i will check that out
[06:53] <critter> that would be VERY convenient
[06:55] <critter> hey, steve, the mount -o did work
[06:56] <critter> i mounted to a wrong area, that was my bad
[06:56] <critter> thanks for the advice
[07:00] <word> is it possible to run like a repair install of kubuntu? like...replace all the important files it needs to run but keep the config files and other packages?
[07:05] <MasterEvilAce`LT> my adept is saying it can't do anything because something is using it already. i \restarted, etc. nothing.
[07:05] <RadiantFire> MasterEvilAce`LT: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:10] <MasterEvilAce`LT> damnit
[07:10] <MasterEvilAce`LT> okay, i ran that command and my computer froze configuring vwdial? or wvdial or something
[07:11] <MasterEvilAce`LT> i think that's why adept never finished installing updates
[07:11] <MasterEvilAce`LT> anyway to make it not download that package
[07:13] <MasterEvilAce`LT> whomever helped me like 5 minutes ago..
[07:17] <MasterEvilAce`LT> sigh.. trying it again
[07:20] <imbrandon> MasterEvilAce`LT, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:30] <word> is there a desktop recorder for linux?
[07:30] <MasterEvilAce`LT> bah :/
[07:30] <word> i need it to prove that i'm not crazy and my kmenu bar really is freaking out
[07:30] <MasterEvilAce`LT> Anyone know how to STOP a package from installing using dpkg --configure -a ?? it crashes so i can'tuse apt-get period because ov wvdial or vwdial
[07:31] <word> try removing it?
[07:31] <word> sudo apt-get remove wvdial vwdial ?
[07:31] <RadiantFire> MasterEvilAce`LT: dpkg -r wvdial
[07:32] <ctothej> anyone successful in getting dual head to work where you can move applications across multiple monitors?
[07:32] <ctothej> i have dual head working, but i cant drag my applications across to the other screen
[07:32] <MasterEvilAce`LT> TY radiant, once again
[07:36] <MasterEvilAce`LT> ty Radiant! you have saved my kubuntu
[07:36] <MasterEvilAce`LT> KUUUBUNTUUUU
[07:36] <Vampis> lol
[07:36] <RadiantFire> yay
[07:37] <Vampis> Another dawn, another day
[07:38] <RadiantFire> its 1:38 am, I sh ould probably go to sleep
[07:40] <vinboy>  is there any way to improve java's performance?
[07:40] <Vampis> remove it
[07:40] <Vampis> :)
[07:40] <Vampis> Java's always slow
[07:40] <Vampis> :D
[07:40] <Vampis> RadiantFire: lol =)
[07:40] <RadiantFire> vinboy: no...
[07:40] <vinboy> ok
[07:40] <vinboy> thx
[07:45] <PtitGNU> 'lo
[07:46] <Vampis> lo
[07:50] <PtitGNU> Is there a way to install sun-java5-plugin with adept ? I'm asking this because debconf is configured by default in 'noninteractive' mode and licence of java is rejected automatically... If I change debconf to KDE, I can install sun-java5-plugin with apt-get but, if I try this in adept, it cannot open KDE dialog and show the licence in a dialog (with 'show details') but this dialog doesn't work and I must kill adept, unlock dpkg etc...
[07:52] <RadiantFire> PtitGNU: yeah, i had that problem 2, i gave up and used apt-get from cli
[07:53] <PtitGNU> yes, but apt-get in cli is not easy for beginners (like my father :p)
[07:55] <Vampis> PtitGNU: I find it easyer in cli then in gui-programs
[07:55] <Vampis> you have more control
[07:55] <RadiantFire> PtitGNU: then install blackdown
[07:55] <Vampis> and when I started ubuntu there was only apt-get in cli
[07:55] <RadiantFire> it works fine
[07:55] <Vampis> :)
[07:55] <RadiantFire> and I'm sure someone knows about the DLJ agreement crashing adept, thats the only one I know of
[07:56] <Vampis> I know about it :P
[07:56] <Vampis> Because it happend to me, lol
[07:56] <Vampis> :)
[07:56] <Bilford_> tj9991, did you have any problems wit the installation
[07:56] <word> Is there an app to record the screen?
[07:56] <Vampis> not adept, it crashed everything for me
[07:56] <Bilford_> yes, press PrintScreen
[07:57] <word> :P I mean like video
[07:57] <Vampis> I dont get why ppl use adept
[07:57] <Bilford_> yes
[07:57] <Vampis> its slow, takes longer
[07:58] <PtitGNU> root: that's not goood :o)
[07:58] <Bilford_> word, Istanbul
[07:58] <imbrandon> word, google screencast , there are a few
[07:59] <Bilford_> sudo apt-get istanbul
[07:59] <PtitGNU> Vampis: yes, it's slower but some people prefers a gui (easyer)
[07:59] <Bilford_> Istanbul is a desktop session recorder for the Free Desktop. It records your session into an Ogg Theora video file. To start the recording, you click on its icon in the notification area. To stop you click its icon again.
[07:59] <Vampis> I dont find it easyer
[07:59] <Vampis> just two lines in cli and its done
[07:59] <Bilford_> It works on Gnome, KDE, XFCE and others.
[07:59] <Vampis> the gui, find the shortcut, start it, press buttons here and there
[07:59] <Vampis> with cli you dont have to take your hands away from the keyboard :)
[08:00] <sistar> my external dvd writer has recently decided to stop writing, and isn't mounting that reliabley either. Any tips on reconfigureing it?
[08:00] <word> google screencast? o.O
[08:00] <Bilford_> word, are you listening
[08:00] <word> Yes i'm listening i'm installing istanbul right now
[08:01] <Bilford_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screencast
[08:01] <tulga> I installed xgl on compiz. working well expect taskbar and titlebar. howto fix these problems?
[08:01] <sistar> any thoughts?
[08:02] <tulga> all application hasn't titlebar and taskbar always empty
[08:04] <Bilford_> where is Google Screencast
[08:04] <sistar> I'm lookin for somethin like kudzu, but aint findin nuttin
[08:07] <Bilford_> did you search Ubuntu Forums
[08:07] <Bilford_> and Kubuntu forums
[08:07] <Bilford_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119990&highlight=external+cd+writer
[08:10] <PtitGNU> are there a way to say to debconf that I have already accepted the java licence ? (for an unattended install)
[08:10] <Bilford_> I have a shell script that changes my desktop wallpaper every 10 minutes and uses a live webcam shot
[08:11] <_ODIN1> odin1|home
[08:12] <humbolt> I still can't find no XEN kernel in ubuntu?!
[08:12] <humbolt> I thought XEN will be part of the game?
[08:16] <_nano_> billytwowilly: there?
[08:18] <_nano_> !xgl
[08:18] <ubotu> xgl is probably "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[08:19] <vinboy> hi
[08:19] <vinboy> what font settings do you guys use?
[08:19] <billytwowilly> _nano_: sup?
[08:21] <billytwowilly> _nano_: gtg, bbl
[08:21] <billytwowilly> cheers
[08:22] <word> imbrandon: why would the bottom bar go all freaky when i either docked a window on it or put a menu in full screen?
[08:28] <_nano_> imbrandon: it worked like a charm (the kororra xgl) !
[08:33] <dein> when do you guys think the final release of dapper will be out?
[08:34] <nixternal> t-2
[08:34] <nixternal> june 1, 2006
[08:34] <nixternal> 1 more day now
[08:34] <dein> hmm cool
[08:34] <Vampis> hehe
[08:34] <dein> how do i upgrade
[08:34] <dein> just refresh my package list?
[08:34] <Vampis> do u have dapper or breezy ?
[08:35] <dein> dapper
[08:35] <Vampis> just update / dist-upgrade
[08:35] <Vampis> and you're fit for fight
[08:35] <dein> dist-uprgrade?
[08:35] <dein> is that a command?
[08:35] <dein> ah i see it
[08:35] <dein> on apt-get
[08:36] <Vampis> uep
[08:36] <dein> another question
[08:36] <dein> wait, nevermind ive already found that out
[08:36] <dein> lol
[08:38] <dein> hmm
[08:38] <dein> is there a superkaramba package for ubuntu?
[08:38] <Vampis> yes
[08:38] <Vampis> sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[08:39] <nixternal> isn't it just karamba in the repositories though?
[08:41] <dein> thanks vampris
[08:41] <dein> kubuntu is so much better than SuSE
[08:45] <Vampis> dein: np :)
[08:45] <Vampis> nixternal: nope,.
[08:47] <Vampis> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kde/superkaramba
[08:47] <dein> how do you direct messages to people
[08:47] <nixternal> yup...don't know why i was thinking karamba...i might be going back
[08:47] <nixternal> way back obvously ;_
[08:47] <dein> or are you just typing dein:
[08:47] <bimberi> dein: your irc client will hilight lines with your nick in it :)
[08:48] <Vampis> :)
[08:48] <Vampis> bimberi: not neccecerly
[08:48] <Vampis> depends on the settings :)
[08:48] <bimberi> :)
[08:49] <Vampis> *getting mor coffee*
[08:49] <Vampis> more*
[08:50] <Vampis> back
[08:50] <AdmiralFTW> does anyone know how to fix the flash problem in linux? i know Flash 8 isn't available but is there some other way to get it to work
[08:50] <AdmiralFTW> i've been to a few sites that work only on Flash 8 so i'd like see them working
[08:51] <Vampis> hm, i just installed flashplugin-nonfree
[08:52] <dein> go to ies4linux
[08:52] <dein> and have it install ie5 or 6 if you can
[08:52] <dein> thats the only way to see flash player 8 stuff in linux atm
[08:55] <vinboy> should I enable Logical volume manager (LVM) support in kernel?
[08:55] <Vampis> if you need it - yes, if you dont - no
[08:55] <Vampis> ;)
[08:55] <vinboy> how do I know if I need it?
[08:56] <AdmiralFTW> dein: ies4linux?
[08:56] <dein> yes
[08:56] <dein> do a google search and u should find the website
[08:57] <AdmiralFTW> cool, i didnt know it was a website
[08:57] <dein> it tells you what you need to do on the website
[08:57] <AdmiralFTW> gah! IE, no thanks
[08:57] <dein> lol
[08:58] <dein> its not near as bad as usual when its running on linux
[08:58] <dein> i  use it when i have stuff i cant do in firefox that requires activex scripts
[08:59] <AdmiralFTW> hmm. i might install it
[08:59] <critter> any developers around?
[08:59] <AdmiralFTW> let me get a firewall up first, specifically to block IE internet access unless i give it permission
[09:00] <AdmiralFTW> another thing
[09:00] <dein> it needs internet to install
[09:00] <AdmiralFTW> adept wont open because it messed up during an instillation
[09:00] <dein> it takes the files from microsoft
[09:00] <AdmiralFTW> how can i fix it
[09:01] <dein> sudo apt-get check and maybe sudo apt-get autoclean
[09:01] <AdmiralFTW> no i think you misunderstood. i'll install it, but i'll have a firewall to block it from conneting unless i absolutle nood it to
[09:01] <dein> you need it to
[09:02] <AdmiralFTW> err
[09:02] <AdmiralFTW> nvm
[09:02] <dein> the installer program actually uses the internet to install
[09:03] <PyroMithrandir> yeah, dein but AdmiralFTW is paranoid
[09:03] <PyroMithrandir> paranoid in that good, anti-microsoft sort of way
[09:03] <dein> lol i understand
[09:04] <AdmiralFTW> PyroMithrandir: thats it
[09:04] <PyroMithrandir> AdmiralFTW, do you have a swiss army knife? I can't remember
[09:05] <dein> you guys know that wine-tools used to be able to install IE for you from off the microsoft site, but then ms implemented the wga, and blocked linux users from downloading
[09:05] <PyroMithrandir> ha, that's kinda horrible/great
[09:05] <dein> lol
[09:06] <AdmiralFTW> man i hate IE only sites
[09:06] <dein> ya me too
[09:06] <dein> thankfully this fixes it
[09:06] <AdmiralFTW> like you literally can't access them on Firefox
[09:06] <dein> altho, the IE is buggy
[09:06] <AdmiralFTW> nah man, they dont need my visit if its IE
[09:06] <AdmiralFTW> it is IE
[09:07] <dein> eh there are some places i need to go
[09:07] <dein> like my comcast support site><
[09:12] <Godrin> Hi! I cannot play any mp3s with noatun or amarok though arts is working as I'm hearing system sounds. any ideas?
[09:12] <PyroMithrandir> !mp3
[09:12] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:12] <_nano_> !mp3
[09:13] <_nano_> lol
[09:13] <PyroMithrandir> :) beat ya to it
[09:15] <_nano_> :D
[09:18] <Godrin> thanks a lot!
[09:24] <_nano_> !samba
[09:24] <ubotu> from memory, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[09:42] <crazy_penguin> good morning everybody! :)
[09:42] <Hobbsee> hi crazy_penguin
[09:42] <crazy_penguin> a good dapper morning to all ! :)
[09:43] <Bilford_> tomorrow is the dapper morning
[09:44] <Hobbsee> @time
[09:44] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: May 31 2006, 07:44:11
[09:44] <Hobbsee> yeah, good point..
[09:44] <imbrandon> heya Hobbsee
[09:44] <Hobbsee> hi imbrandon
[09:46] <_rince_> mrgn
[09:50] <riri> Hi all :)
[09:50] <riri> anybody knows flumotion ?
[09:51] <PyroMithrandir> some sort of streaming media server?
[09:52] <PyroMithrandir> (I just googled it, I have no experience with it)
[09:52] <riri> yes
[09:52] <riri> i want to see my webcam on internet
[09:52] <riri> flumotion have a planet.xml missing
[09:53] <PyroMithrandir> well, maybe someone else can help you
[09:53] <riri> is there any others ?
[09:54] <nixternal`zzz> good night all
[09:54] <riri> the kubuntu version is too old they said to me in fluendo (the maker)
[09:54] <nixternal`zzz> nite riri ;)
[09:54] <riri> good night
[09:54] <riri> zzz
[09:54] <riri> top
[09:54] <riri> lol
[09:54] <riri> i was wondering if you were already sleepin nixternal`zzz
[09:56] <riri> strange : sun java couldn't be installed yesterday but today i did it :)
[09:56] <Bilford_> is Canoncinal  planning a huge advertising blitz for Dapper?
[09:56] <riri> with synaptic
[09:56] <Bilford_> CAnononcinaiinal
[09:58] <riri> hi dein
[09:58] <riri> wie gets ?
[09:59] <Hobbsee> !de
[09:59] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[09:59] <Hobbsee> tag riri
[09:59] <Kmirno> riri: you know there is #ubuntu-fr for french people by the way
[10:00] <Hobbsee> Kmirno: i'd be surprised if that's french - looks like badly spelled german
[10:00] <Hobbsee> assuming gets is supposed to be gehts
[10:00] <Kmirno> Hobbsee: he's french
[10:00] <riri> yes
[10:00] <Kmirno> Hobbsee: but that was not french no huhu
[10:00] <riri> Kmirno:
[10:00] <Hobbsee> bah.  i'm terrible with languages - let me go hide in a corner :P
[10:00] <riri> but no answers ! lol
[10:00] <Kmirno> riri: ah
[10:01] <riri> so in this case better use english
[10:01] <riri> hobbsee: where from ?
[10:01] <Hobbsee> me?  australia
[10:01] <riri> here plenty answers...lol
[10:02] <noiesmo> go aussie go
[10:02] <riri> in fact i have just few little things to find "flumotion" and scim
[10:02] <riri> Hobbsee:  that's why you said "tag" :) lol
[10:03] <riri> scim is working well on gaim
[10:03] <Hobbsee> riri: yes
[10:03] <riri> but not on kde
[10:04] <riri> do you remember a guitarist : patrick obson ?
[10:04] <visik7> anyone using knemo ?
[10:04] <riri> hobbsee
[10:04] <Hobbsee> no
[10:04] <riri> Hobbsee: i can't find it anymore... 1975
[10:05] <riri> salut nano
[10:05] <riri> _nano_:
[10:06] <_nano_> hi riri
[10:06] <_nano_> salut back at you :D
[10:06] <riri> xiexie
[10:06] <_nano_> now i hope that's not a smiley :-S
[10:06] <riri> merci thanks in pinying
[10:06] <riri> chinese
[10:07] <riri> clever chinese: they learn latin caracters at schools
[10:07] <_nano_> hehe
[10:08] <nolte> to install vmware-tools i need to switch to a runlevel without X. is there a runlevel without X ?
[10:08] <riri> who said that ?
[10:09] <riri> wmware tools are installing selfs ?
[10:09] <riri> selves
[10:09] <riri> well maybe depends of the host and guest :) nolte ?
[10:12] <imbrandon> nolte, init 3
[10:13] <nolte> riri: you're right, it looks like it depends on the guest system.
[10:13] <nolte> riri: within suse guest i've to change to runlevel 3
[10:13] <riri> nolte : i have kubuntu as host and xp as guest
[10:14] <riri> ok
[10:14] <riri> i used to do it on suse 10.1
[10:14] <riri> worked find and quickly
[10:14] <riri> but now kubuntu does it still better
[10:15] <nolte> riri: i don't like 10.1 so i'd like to slowly (vmware) switch to kubuntu
[10:15] <visik7> anyone using knemo ?
[10:16] <riri> that's what i did too...
[10:17] <riri> nolte : my problem to move was sharing internet as soon as i find firestarter to do it i could
[10:18] <nolte> imbrandon: in /etc/rc3.d there's a S99kdm does'nt this need X ?
[10:18] <nolte> riri: I've some special Programs here I need for work. Have to test them, befor I make the switch
[10:19] <riri> sos... i want to remove skim (because messing scim) but there is a dependance which will remove kubuntu desktop : does this mean all kubuntu ?
[10:20] <nolte> riri: kubuntu as host and xp as guest, thats what i'd like to have in a few weeks
[10:20] <riri> nolte: yes...
[10:20] <riri> it works fine;..
[10:20] <riri> very quick...
[10:20] <riri> but i have winlsd...
[10:21] <riri> i guess it's the same for other version
[10:21] <riri> few little problems
[10:21] <riri> like usb2 webcam
[10:22] <riri> but in kub i can use my webcam with amsn
[10:22] <riri> so i don't really mind
[10:22] <riri> with kopete the image appears and disapeared
[10:22] <riri> i don't know why ?
[10:23] <riri> with amsn first time a lot of adverts
[10:23] <riri> stop it and restart and then the webcam works fine
[10:24] <riri> i tried few distros suse mandriva fedora and finally i am happy with dapper ... waiting for the final :)
[10:25] <riri> so i got rid of xp as dual boot
[10:25] <Bilford_> youre free
[10:25] <Bilford_> no more spending an hour looking for your Windows serial number
[10:26] <riri> lol
[10:26] <Bilford_> or Online Activation 
[10:26] <riri> worse : in vmware asked you the serial :) lol
[10:26] <Bilford_> or Microsoft trying to monitor and control every aspect of your computerized life
[10:27] <riri> Bilford_: i am lucky because i am retired ... even if french government is cheating us on pension ! lol
[10:27] <Bilford_> Ive never used VMWare
[10:27] <vinboy> yea
[10:28] <Bilford_> I went from 10 years of Windows straight to Linux a few weeks ago
[10:28] <riri> Bilford_: just in case ...wlsd
[10:28] <Bilford_> what
[10:28] <riri> or cursedxp
[10:28] <riri> winlsd
[10:28] <Bilford_> whats that
[10:28] <riri> that's not really xp :)
[10:29] <riri> some people are doing better job
[10:29] <Bilford_> the only thing I use Wine for now is QuickPar
[10:29] <visik7> right click on knemo doesn't work for me
[10:29] <Bilford_> for some reason, I cant seem to find a Linux graphical par2 repair tool
[10:29] <visik7> and for you ?
[10:29] <riri> winlsd 3.5 is an xp with sp2
[10:29] <riri> made by clever people
[10:30] <riri> what is par ?
[10:30] <riri> partition ?
[10:30] <Bilford_> for repairing files
[10:30] <riri> ok
[10:30] <Bilford_> downloaded off Usenet, mainly
[10:34] <riri> kubuntu's irc is so good that now i fix all my problems in one 8 week :)
[10:35] <riri> english irc... french one seems to be "mute" :)
[10:40] <dein> hihi riri
[10:41] <Bilford_> does Konqueror have a text-search tool for the address bar
[10:47] <riri> dein : got it ?
[10:49] <dein> got what?
[10:50] <riri> your java running ?
[10:50] <riri> this morning I tried it with synaptic and had no problem
[10:50] <Bilford_> interesting thread:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6894
[10:50] <dein> ya i got it running
[10:51] <riri> for flash i went on adobe to get it
[10:51] <dein> the normal packages are working now too?
[10:51] <dein> ya i did that too and my flash works perfectly now
[10:51] <riri> seems so
[10:51] <riri> in fact flash is easy to install now from there..
[10:53] <dein> ya i remember it used to be a pain
[10:54] <riri> Bilford_: yes... it remains me i can't use my printer on kubuntu
[10:54] <riri> but neither on xp vmware
[10:55] <riri> it 's not a serious problem i have a network of two computer and i use my notebook for printing
[10:56] <riri> completly switching is hard :)
[10:57] <Bilford_> are you sure you cant use it
[10:58] <riri> i can use it
[10:58] <riri> but only printing i have a all in one lexmark x75
[10:58] <riri> so i found drivers for the printing part
[10:59] <riri> but there is still lot of problem
[10:59] <riri> like ajusting the cartridge
[10:59] <riri> so too painfull
[10:59] <Bilford_> I need to find a way of transferring files to my Dell Axim PocketPC
[10:59] <riri> if i would need it yes i would try to do it
[11:00] <riri> does it work on xp ?
[11:00] <Bilford_> yes
[11:01] <riri> did you tried vmware ?
[11:01] <riri> or any emulator ?
[11:01] <Bilford_> No, Im not installing any form of Windows anywhere
[11:01] <riri> ok
[11:01] <riri> i don't know pocket
[11:01] <riri> in fact i do the same for xp
[11:02] <riri> i preferred a linux solution
[11:03] <riri> usually if one can do it on xp one can do it on linux...
[11:05] <imbrandon> its not usually , its they CAN , its just a matter of HOW and experince ;)
[11:05] <imbrandon> heheh
[11:05] <riri> true :)
[11:05] <imbrandon> Bilford_, have your tried kpilot and such ?
[11:05] <Bilford_> not really
[11:06] <imbrandon> that would be where i start
[11:06] <Bilford_> I read threads that didnt sound promising
[11:06] <Bilford_> ok
[11:06] <imbrandon> i dont have a pocket pc but if i did thats what i would use, i use it for all my palms
[11:06] <imbrandon> Bilford_, there are bad threads about EVERYTHING most things you just have to try ;)
[11:07] <Bilford_> they all say it doesnt work
[11:07] <riri> try
[11:08] <Bilford_> I guess it can be done if I jump through 100 hoops
[11:09] <imbrandon> 100 hoops ?
[11:10] <imbrandon> Bilford_, here is a howto i found in like 3 seconds on google about how to do pocket pc sync and linux
[11:10] <imbrandon> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/08/17/1847227
[11:10] <Bilford_> im here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172160&highlight=synce+dapper
[11:10] <imbrandon> ^^
[11:11] <riri> 
[11:11] <imbrandon> thats one personals problems , best thing is to try and see if you come up with the same problems, if so theres the solution ;)
[11:12] <imbrandon> like i said there is bad reports about everything, even *gasp* kubuntu ;)
[11:12] <Bilford_> ok, I'll try SynCE
[11:15] <ericthefish> has anybody else had any problems with their mouse cursor and dual screen?
[11:16] <ericthefish> when I move my mouse to my right hand screen past a window border my mouse cursor sticks with the 'resize window' cursor :(
[11:18] <Bilford_> ugh... Im clueless about installing something thats not in the Add Program thing
[11:18] <nolte> what i like to do is have 2 computers exact the same packets and versions installed. how do i export the packet database and import it into another computer ?
[11:18] <chakie_work> dpkg --get-selections or similar
[11:19] <chakie_work> and then dpkg --set-selections < packages.txt
[11:19] <Bilford_> whos that for
[11:20] <nolte> chakie_work: thanks for the hint, thats what i need.
[11:22] <nolte> bilford: we've three machines here at work and they all need the same software installed. so i only need to setup one machine
[11:28] <visik7> I've 2 users one when rightclick on knemo icons in the tray open the context menu the other can't wtf ?
[11:37] <visik7> 3.5.3 out ?
[11:40] <HymnToLife> not yet I think
[12:25] <armedking> Anyone know how i can add my home dirs and all that sorts of stuff on my desktop. Is there a tool.
[12:25] <Vampis> Make a shortcut or what ?
[12:25] <armedking> In ubuntu there whas a tool for it so i could display mounted and unmounted drives and sutch
[12:29] <ericthefish> armedking: go to Settings/Desktop/Behaviour/Device Icons[tab] 
[12:31] <armedking> ericthefish: Tnx man
[12:31] <ericthefish> nps
[12:32] <n3storm> hi everyone
[12:37] <uscg_corey> anyone here have bank of america?
[12:37] <Lynoure> hmm, why? (No, I don't have)
[12:37] <uscg_corey> i think they have a glitch in system or something
[12:38] <uscg_corey> its showing my balance as $1.63
[12:38] <uscg_corey> yet its $861.63
[12:38] <Vampis> you've been hacked!
[12:38] <Vampis> :P
[12:38] <uscg_corey> well it shows below as $61.63
[12:38] <uscg_corey> er $861.63
[12:38] <uscg_corey> but available balance is $1.63
[12:38] <uscg_corey> its got to be some bug
[12:41] <uscg_corey> *shurgs*
[12:42] <h3sp4wn> Could have not fully cleared (hence its their but not available)
[12:42] <uscg_corey> naw its been in there
[12:42] <uscg_corey> who knows
[12:42] <uscg_corey> in the email i got w/ account balance it said $861.63
[12:43] <uscg_corey> so it must be some kind of glitch
[12:43] <uscg_corey> oh well work time
[12:44] <Lynoure> uscg_corey: Email with a login link? =) That's how I'd phish if I where a phisherwoman.
[12:55] <baby> hey guys i have a question. can i install firefox 1.5.0.3 by using apt-get install command or how can i install firefox to my system ?
[12:55] <Vampis> yes
[12:55] <Vampis> sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:59] <exhale> how come the firefox menus and stuff look so plain and ugly in KDE?
[12:59] <Vampis> exhale: becuase you cant make the correct settings? ;)
[01:00] <Vampis> I think it looks great
[01:00] <exhale> then please enlighten me ;)
[01:00] <exhale> it doesnt look as good as in ubuntu
[01:00] <baby> Vampis : but it says firefox is already the newest version. How come? i have Firefox 1.0.8 version
[01:00] <Vampis> baby: you have breezy I suppose
[01:00] <baby> yes
[01:00] <baby> 5.10
[01:00] <Vampis> There you have it ;)
[01:00] <exhale> then its time to upgrade :P
[01:00] <Vampis> in dapper you get 1.5
[01:01] <baby> so how can i upgrade it
[01:01] <Vampis> to dapper ?
[01:01] <Vampis> Just replace your breezy repositories to dappers
[01:01] <baby> to dapper or to Firefox 1.5
[01:01] <Vampis> or you can just download Firefox 1.5 from mozilla and install it
[01:02] <baby> dapper is the newest version right?
[01:02] <Vampis> yes
[01:03] <Hobbsee|away> !ping
[01:03] <ubotu> pong
[01:03] <Vampis> pung
[01:03] <toomai> hi all
[01:04] <Vampis> hi
[01:07] <baby> Vampis: in kubuntu.org says with adept select Manage Repositories and change brezzy's with dapper is that right cuz when i change it doesnt change
[01:08] <Vampis> baby: change and save
[01:08] <Vampis> then update
[01:08] <Vampis> and then upgrade
[01:14] <Seveas> Hobbsee|away, ping
[01:21] <baby> Vampis: if i press full upgrade button will it upgrade all upgradable packages or all of the packages?
[01:22] <Vampis> all uppgradable
[01:22] <baby> ok
[01:22] <Vampis> Sorry if I'm absent
[01:22] <Vampis> i'm cleaningh
[01:22] <Vampis> :)
[01:22] <Hobbsee|away> Seveas: hey :)
[01:22] <Vampis> Hobbsee: !!
[01:23] <Hobbsee> hi Vampis
[01:23] <Vampis> whasa
[01:24] <_nano_> Hobbsee: is your xorg version thingy resolved?
[01:25] <Hobbsee> _nano_: no idea.  oh well.  seems to show an odd version number still
[01:25] <_nano_> Hobbsee: hmm
[01:25] <rigonatti> hi all !
[01:25] <_nano_> hi rigonatti
[01:26] <rigonatti> _nano_:  If I found a compatibilitty issue in Kubuntu ..should I report?
[01:26] <Hobbsee> rigonatti: what issue?
[01:26] <rigonatti> Hobbsee:  Mysouund Card...
[01:29] <baby> Vampis: how can i download and install google talk
[01:29] <rigonatti> Should I
[01:29] <rigonatti> baby:  You dont have gtalk to Linux
[01:29] <rigonatti> baby: Use Kopete, Gaim or Pysi to connect to Gtalk
[01:30] <Hobbsee> rigonatti: file it on malone
[01:30] <Hobbsee> !bug
[01:30] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[01:30] <_nano_> rigonatti: can baby use wine to run gtalk?
[01:30] <_nano_> rigonatti: just like picasa ;)
[01:31] <rigonatti> I dont think its a good Idea .. I mean..the good thing its use the protocol ...and you have a ready IM instead...
[01:31] <baby> no picassa now is on Linux
[01:34] <_nano_> baby: it's the same old windows picasa being run through wine
[01:37] <baby> ok i see
[01:42] <wincide> hi all .. i'm in dapper and I'd like to run xgl + KDE 3.5.2 with an ATI radeon 9700 . Do someone knows a guide or manual to make this run . thx :)
[01:42] <wincide> all guides i found were for nvidia cards
[01:43] <Hobbsee> !xgl
[01:43] <ubotu> [xgl]  "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[01:47] <_nano_> Hobbsee: i tried kororra xgl demo CD (just to check if my old radeon 7500 is supported)...it worked like a charm!
[01:47] <_nano_> Hobbsee: and xgl is amazing!
[01:47] <klerfayt> _nano_: not then you need 3d accel
[01:47] <Hobbsee> cool, i've not tried it...
[01:48] <_nano_> klerfayt: i think xorg supports 3d accel for older radeon cards like mine
[01:48] <klerfayt> _nano_: xgl will disable 3d accel. for other applications on my card
[01:48] <_nano_> klerfayt: for newer ones...we have to use the ati binaries
[01:48] <_nano_> klerfayt: xorg doesn't have inbuilt 3d accel for newer ati cards
[01:49] <klerfayt> _nano_: I'm saying that if you have xgl running then e.g. you can't play games that demand 3d
[01:49] <cfraz89> you can run them on another xserver though
[01:49] <_nano_> klerfayt: hmm...possibly...didn't try that :-?
[01:49] <_nano_> klerfayt: could you link me to a page that talks more about it?
[01:50] <cfraz89> klerfayt: there is a small proggy called xgame which will run them on another server for you
[01:51] <_nano_> cfraz89: so in other words, by default xgl locks up 3d accel for other apps?
[01:52] <klerfayt> _nano_: as far as I can understand it depends on hardware
[01:52] <_nano_> klerfayt: hmm...that i need to find out :-?
[01:52] <klerfayt> _nano_: so you might play quake with xgl like it was in novell's demo :)
[01:52] <cfraz89> _nano_: yes
[01:52] <cfraz89> buut aiglx lets you use 3d accel
[01:53] <_nano_> aiglx?
[01:53] <_nano_> !aiglx
[01:53] <ubotu> _nano_: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:53] <_nano_> rofl
[01:53] <cfraz89> lol
[01:53] <cfraz89> aiglx is competitor to xgl
[01:53] <cfraz89> it is part of xorg 7.1
[01:53] <_nano_> kororra guys got in to legal trouble for shipping ati binaries in their distros :D
[01:53] <cfraz89> instead of being a whole new xserver, it is 3d support for xorg
[01:54] <cfraz89> except nvidia drivers dont support aiglx yet
[01:56] <_nano_> cfraz89: a whole new world!
[01:56] <cfraz89> lol
[01:56] <_nano_> cfraz89: have been living in a cave :P but them with a meagre graphics card..i can't hope for more :P
[01:56] <cfraz89> its not THAT different lol
[01:56] <cfraz89> well both of them work even on a tnt2 m64 lol
[01:56] <cfraz89> but for full advantage, pixel shader support is good
[01:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !nvidia
[01:57] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:57] <_nano_> cfraz89: so xgl runs on top of xorg, whereas aiglx is a part of it...
[01:57] <_nano_> cfraz89: that means i could turn off xgl and still keep working?
[01:58] <cfraz89> for aiglx yes
[01:58] <cfraz89> it can be turned on and off on the fly
[01:59] <cfraz89> i just wish the nvidia 9x drivers would hurry up and be released so i can try it
[01:59] <cfraz89> i like aiglx, but am developing a game so can't use it much
[01:59] <_nano_> cfraz89: for aiglx being a part of xserver, wouldn't that require a restart?
[01:59] <wincide> !ati
[01:59] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:59] <wincide> !ati+xgl+kde
[01:59] <wincide> :P
[01:59] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, wincide
[01:59] <_nano_> lol
[01:59] <cfraz89> _nano_: no, sort of like composite now in x
[02:00] <cfraz89> when composite is only really enabled if you use a composite manager
[02:00] <_nano_> cfraz89: working on a game? nice! what kind?
[02:00] <cfraz89> vehicular deathmath lol
[02:00] <cfraz89> *deathmatch
[02:00] <cfraz89> automanic.sf.net
[02:02] <_nano_> "focussing on cross-country carnage." lol ..true game speak! :D
[02:02] <cfraz89> lol haha
[02:02] <cfraz89> is it really?
[02:08] <_nano_> cfraz89: hehe
[02:27] <Hobbsee> Seveas: ping.
[02:28] <Seveas> yes?
[02:30] <Hobbsee> Seveas: see pm
[02:30] <V3ro> Aybody knows How change the name of pc?
[02:31] <HymnToLife> V3ro> sudo hostname yourverycoolnewhostname
[02:32] <Bladesonfire> V3ro: the GUI way: K-Menu -> System Settings -> "Network Settings" (under Internet & Network) -> "Domain Name System" tab
[02:32] <Bladesonfire> And that's why we use cli's =P
[02:32] <HymnToLife> :D
[02:32] <V3ro> I need change the name from console
[02:35] <V3ro> and... How Change the Domain and WorksGroup the pc, but from console
[02:35] <Seantater_> what does selinux do to be "security enhanced"?
[02:37] <V3ro> HymnToLife! how?
[02:37] <HymnToLife> V3ro> domain is in /etc/hosts
[02:37] <HymnToLife> workgroup I don't know, I thought they were only for Winblows
[02:41] <_nano_> cfraz89: you use xgl then?
[02:44] <cfraz89> yes, sometimes
[02:44] <cfraz89> especially to impress friends
[02:44] <V3ro> HymnToLife, thanks!
[02:45] <_nano_> cfraz89: heh
[02:45] <cfraz89> will you try it out?
[02:50] <_nano_> cfraz89: i want to ...i'm just afraid it doesn't my system
[02:50] <_nano_> *doesn't break
[02:51] <cfraz89> oh ok
[02:51] <_nano_> i think it would be better to try out aiglx...
[02:55] <cfraz89> probably
[02:58] <cromo> I just noticed KDE 3.5.3 release and kubuntu release related. Anyone tried this yet? ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.3/kubuntu/
[02:59] <cromo> and why there's no info yet on kubuntu.org?
[02:59] <Vampis> Because they havent made any kubuntupackages of it yet  ?
[02:59] <cromo> and neither on kde.org actually
[02:59] <LinuxNewbie> Hello.
[02:59] <cromo> Vampis: did you see the link I pasted?
[02:59] <Vampis> yes, ftp.kde.org
[02:59] <Vampis> aah
[02:59] <Vampis> sorry
[03:00] <Vampis> kubuntu ;)
[03:00] <Vampis> that i DIDNT see
[03:00] <Vampis> ;)
[03:00] <cromo> happens ;)
[03:00] <cromo> this is actually the repository
[03:00] <cromo> I wonder why is it here, not deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest
[03:00] <cromo> s/here/there
[03:00] <LinuxNewbie> Where is a good website for Kunbuntu Newbies ? I am trying Linux for the FIRST time
[03:01] <cromo> LinuxNewbie: I'd rather recomend you some book
[03:01] <LinuxNewbie> I need to learn how to do the BASIC stuff like installing making shortcuts etc etc
[03:01] <cromo> though I don't know any ;)
[03:01] <LinuxNewbie> cromo: Book :(
[03:02] <Vampis> karin = german ?
[03:02] <HymnToLife> LinuxNewbie> just /msg ubotu <something>
[03:02] <karin> ja
[03:02] <Vampis> ok
[03:02] <HymnToLife> ubotu knows everything :p
[03:02] <ubotu> HymnToLife: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:03] <LinuxNewbie> Damn I am used to highlighting somethign and letting it be copied by mIRC
[03:04] <cromo> so, anyone dare to try these 3.5.3 packages? :)
[03:10] <exhale> is anyone getting troubles getting kubuntu 6.06 to boot?
[03:11] <Ilokaasu> exhale: i had some problems when i updatet from breezy
[03:11] <Ilokaasu> but when i made clean install from livecd it worked normally
[03:11] <exhale> i made a clean install from the special cd in text mode
[03:11] <exhale> doesnt boot
[03:11] <exhale> it starts all the modules and stuff but then i just end up with the kubuntu logo
[03:13] <cristiano> hi guys, i'd like to know how to make kdm accepting root access
[03:14] <cristiano> i have kubuntu dapper
[03:15] <HymnToLife> cristiano> it's a very bad ide to do so
[03:15] <HymnToLife> idea*
[03:15] <cristiano> so how to access root ?
[03:15] <cristiano> *as root
[03:15] <Bladesonfire> cristiano: sudo command
[03:16] <Hobbsee> !root
[03:16] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:16] <cristiano> yep i know but i want to access "graphically" since the startup of the system
[03:16] <Bladesonfire> That's extremely useful
[03:17] <Bladesonfire> In a GUI, try using kdesu
[03:17] <cristiano> ok thx
[03:19] <exhale> how come ubuntu boots just fine and kubuntu doesnt ? :/
[03:20] <vinboy> wat error?
[03:21] <Bladesonfire> Hobbsee: how do I find out what other commands ubotu can take?
[03:21] <Hobbsee> !command
[03:21] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee
[03:21] <Hobbsee> Bladesonfire: ^
[03:21] <Bladesonfire> Thanks
[03:21] <Bladesonfire> !command
[03:21] <vinboy> !command
[03:22] <Hobbsee> it's http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/,
[03:22] <Hobbsee> it's http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:22] <Bladesonfire> !command
[03:22] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Bladesonfire
[03:22] <Bladesonfire> Heh
[03:22] <Bladesonfire> k
[03:22] <apokryphos> commands, or other factoids?
[03:23] <apokryphos> factoids are searchable at the link above. You can also use !listvalues somefactoid, to search him.
[03:23] <vinboy> !command
[03:23] <ubotu> vinboy: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:23] <apokryphos> for other actual commands he takes, /msg ubotu help
[03:23] <Bladesonfire> apokryphos: thanks
[03:23] <exhale> "restarting system log.... ok" thats all im getting
[03:29] <LinuxNewbie> How do I install stuff? I download Macromedia Flash Player I extracted the TAR files
[03:32] <cfraz89> LinuxNewbie: did you get something like libflasplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so ?
[03:32] <SkrotFFS> I think you're better off with "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[03:32] <LinuxNewbie> Yeah cfraz
[03:33] <cfraz89> ok, but SkrotFFS is right, you might want to try that first
[03:33] <cfraz89> use either adept or a command line
[03:33] <cfraz89> ubuntu has a package for flashplayer
[03:33] <LinuxNewbie> I wanna learn how to install from .TARs since Firefox is from that as well.
[03:33] <cfraz89> oh ok
[03:33] <cfraz89> where did you install firefox to?
[03:33] <Hobbsee> !firefox1.5
[03:33] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:34] <cfraz89> installing firefox and flashplayer from tar is very different to installing source tar's by the way
[03:34] <LinuxNewbie> Ok
[03:34] <LinuxNewbie> Let me do the Flash first
[03:34] <SkrotFFS> You should just have to move the files from the .tar into the plugin-directory of firefox though
[03:38] <h3sp4wn> Has anyone built packages for kde 3.5.3 yet ?
[03:39] <Hobbsee> h3sp4wn: yes
[03:39] <h3sp4wn> Hobbsee: Have they got all the ubuntu patches in it ?
[03:39] <LinuxNewbie> Linux is harder to use
[03:40] <Chousuke> It depends.
[03:40] <apokryphos> depends on what you want to do with it, really
[03:40] <cristiano> guys what do u think about the new dapper?
[03:40] <xwolf-> it's just that you are used to windowns
[03:40] <leeghoofd> hi, this probably is a faq but I read that it's now possible to install sun java5 with apt straight from the repo's, do you know which pakcage to install?
[03:40] <Chousuke> If you know how to work with Linux, it's a lot easier. :)
[03:40] <Chousuke> or not easier.
[03:40] <LinuxNewbie> Someone should make a website for people who wanna CONVERT from Windows but do not know ANYTHING about linux
[03:41] <apokryphos> LinuxNewbie: there are many such sites
[03:41] <Chousuke> You'll just be able to work more comfortably
[03:41] <Chousuke> LinuxNewbie: take your time getting used to it. :)
[03:41] <LinuxNewbie> I found them saying use ,/CONFIGURE but why do I use it ?
[03:41] <Chousuke> LinuxNewbie: there's no need to compile software on modern distros.
[03:41] <cfraz89> Chosuke: i disagree
[03:42] <Hobbsee> LinuxNewbie: there are.  wiki.ubuntu.com is also good
[03:42] <apokryphos> LinuxNewbie: you're going to have to learn a few basics first. Try diving into the Ubuntu wiki
[03:42] <Chousuke> cfraz89: there's no need.
[03:42] <xwolf-> funny how windowns migrators such as myself want to go to linux and get it all working peachy in no time, we forget the long time we took to learn win correctly
[03:42] <Chousuke> cfraz89: but you can do it .)
[03:42] <cfraz89> if you want bleeding edge or software without distro package?
[03:42] <Bladesonfire> cristiano: I love Dapper (only version that updates Amarok so I can play all my MP3's ;))
[03:42] <apokryphos> Hobbsee: or better wiki.kubuntu.org ;-)
[03:42] <Chousuke> then you can compile
[03:42] <cfraz89> yep
[03:42] <Chousuke> but you don't need to have the bleeding edge package.
[03:42] <Chousuke> nothing forces you to have it
[03:43] <Chousuke> if you want it, then you should learn to compile things.
[03:43] <cfraz89> bugs in current package lol?
[03:43] <Bladesonfire> Chousuke: for Gaim I do =P
[03:43] <Chousuke> but there is no real need. :)
[03:43] <LinuxNewbie> What is with Linux and HTTPS. lol
[03:43] <Chousuke> Bladesonfire: because you want some feature? do you _need_ the feature?
[03:43] <cfraz89> night all
[03:43] <cristiano> Bladesonfire: damn i'm not able to use Amarok with xine engine, i loved gstreamer engine :(
[03:43] <Chousuke> there is no need if you can settle for what is provided.
[03:44] <Chousuke> which is good enough for most users.
[03:44] <cristiano> what do u use as movie player?
[03:44] <leeghoofd> is it possible to install sun java5 on dapper, sun changed it license so it should be possible?
[03:44] <Chousuke> leeghoofd: it's in multiverse.
[03:44] <Bladesonfire> Chousuke: Yes... Gaim2 beta 3 improves the file transfers capability
[03:44] <Bladesonfire> cristiano: I don't know why they switched to xine engine, but it seems to work okay
[03:44] <leeghoofd> Chousuke: I have multiverse, do you know what it's called
[03:44] <Chousuke> leeghoofd: you can search with adept
[03:45] <Bladesonfire> leeghoofd: sun-java5-jre
[03:45] <Bladesonfire> leeghoofd: Also try this: apt-cache search sun-java
[03:45] <Chousuke> Bladesonfire: I see. This is getting a bit off-topic. :)
[03:45] <visik7> cool dapper+kde3.5.3+amarok1.4
[03:45] <Chousuke> I have  to be off anyway.
[03:45] <visik7> really cool
[03:45] <Bladesonfire> Or if you're using Adept... it'll automatically come up with everything if you just put in part of a name
[03:46] <Bladesonfire> Chousuke: I always like a good chat =D
[03:46] <leeghoofd> thanks
[03:46] <cristiano> kde3.5.3?!? O___O
[03:46] <Bladesonfire> Yep
[03:46] <Chousuke> Bladesonfire: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:46] <visik7> yes 3.5.3 repo for dapper ready :)
[03:46] <cristiano> uauuuu tell me the repossss :D
[03:46] <imbrandon_> Sysinfo for 'voyager': Linux 2.6.15-23-686 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.93GHz at 2933 MHz (5871 bogomips), HD: 53/147GB, RAM: 403/1002MB, 121 proc's, 2.11min up
[03:46] <visik7> cristiano: the same for all the kde apps
[03:47] <visik7> cristiano: kubuntu.org/packages
[03:47] <imbrandon_> cristiano, deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main
[03:47] <leeghoofd> Bladesonfire: it errors with sun-dlj-v1-1 license could not be presented
[03:47] <cristiano> imbrandon_: thx :)
[03:48] <Bladesonfire> leeghoofd: I didn't even know that was a package it installs.... I don't see it on my system
[03:49] <leeghoofd> Bladesonfire: no, that's not a package, it says: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/748988
[03:50] <cristiano> ok time to install even video codecs (i just reinstalled linux yesterday ^^)
[03:50] <Bladesonfire> leeghoofd: Hmmm, never seen that before
[03:50] <cristiano> libdvdcss is still needed, right?
[03:50] <leeghoofd> Bladesonfire: I will search the bugs
[03:50] <Bladesonfire> cristiano: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:51] <Bladesonfire> leeghoofd: I'll search the forums
[03:51] <cristiano> Bladesonfire: mmmm thx
[03:51] <Bladesonfire> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184608&highlight=sun-dlj-v1-1
[03:51] <Bladesonfire> Oh!
[03:51] <Bladesonfire> Did you install it through adept or cli?
[03:51] <leeghoofd> Bladesonfire: cli
[03:52] <leeghoofd> Bladesonfire: aptitude, but adept also fails
[03:52] <Bladesonfire> leeghoofd: Try apt-get (I've never used aptitude)
[03:52] <Bladesonfire> leeghoofd: But I've always had problems with Adept and install sun-java5-jre (or jdk) because of the prompt
[03:53] <Bladesonfire> leeghoofd: From the link: sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[03:53] <vinboy> cristiano: get easyubuntu
[03:53] <LinuxNewbie> How can I check to see if my Account is the Admin or Root Account ?
[03:53] <Bladesonfire> leeghoofd: Also, after installing the package, you may want to visit the RestrictedFormats link and go to "sun java" to learn how to let the system know which java to use
[03:54] <Bladesonfire> LinuxNewbie: there is no root account
[03:54] <Bladesonfire> !root
[03:54] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:54] <cristiano> vinboy: what is it? i'm not new to ubuntu
[03:54] <LinuxNewbie> Then how can I check to see if I got Admin Rights ?
[03:54] <LinuxNewbie> Since I dont think I do...
[03:54] <leeghoofd> Bladesonfire: it works now, thanks
[03:56] <Bladesonfire> leeghoofd: yw =D
[03:56] <LinuxNewbie> You are running the Macromedia Flash Player installer as a non-root user.
[03:56] <LinuxNewbie> Macromedia Flash Player 7 will be installed in your home directory.
[03:56] <LinuxNewbie> Support is available at http://www.macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/
[03:56] <LinuxNewbie> To install Macromedia Flash Player 7 now, press ENTER.
[03:56] <LinuxNewbie> To cancel the installation at any time, press Control-C.
[03:56] <LinuxNewbie> I got that when I tools execute Shell command
[04:07] <robin_> hiu
[04:08] <robin_> I downloaded the kubuntu release candidate
[04:08] <robin_> but it stuck on 640x480 on my laptop
[04:08] <robin_> and the window size of the installer doens't fit in there..
[04:08] <robin_> :(
[04:08] <Vampis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:10] <robin_> ok
[04:10] <robin_> thx
[04:10] <robin_> but this is a bug ?
[04:10] <robin_> because I have selected 1024 in the bootloader
[04:11] <robin_> *had
[04:12] <Vampis> what happens if you dont ?=
[04:12] <robin_> same thing
[04:12] <robin_> stuck to 640
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> sounds like its not seeing either the video card, or monitor correctly
[04:13] <Bilford> I give up on connecting my PocketPC to Kubuntu
[04:13] <robin_> I guess, but with dpkg-reconfigure and default stuff, it works
[04:13] <Vampis> Bilford: it's not easy
[04:13] <Vampis> buy a palm instead
[04:13] <Vampis> :)
[04:13] <Kmirno> Bilford: I didn't even tried
[04:13] <Kmirno> Bilford: try*
[04:13] <Bilford> did you
[04:13] <Bilford> oh
[04:14] <Kmirno> Bilford: I've done it for ubuntu breezy for a client
[04:14] <Kmirno> nillhad to write custome fucking scripts and stuff i don't even remember
[04:14] <Hobbsee> !language
[04:14] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:14] <Kmirno> never ever again
[04:14] <Lynoure> Vampis: unfortunately there are issues with kpilot as well
[04:14] <Kmirno> Hobbsee: I apologies
[04:15] <Kmirno> Bilford: so.. uh it doesn't work on dapper too ?
[04:15] <Bilford> Im sure theres a way to do it
[04:15] <Bilford> but Im not a nuclear physicist
[04:16] <Kmirno> Bilford: trust me nuclear physicist don't know anything about ppp over usb and multisync
[04:16] <Bilford> lol
[04:17] <Kmirno> Bilford: I showed a ubuntu breezy shipit cd to one of them (some familly) he told me this was crape and those systemes aren't used for 20 years and the top notch is Windows NT
[04:18] <Kmirno> Bilford: He still doesn't trust me
[04:18] <Bilford> lol
[04:19] <Kmirno> Bilford: he'snt that brilliant anymore thought .. he's my dad, kinda getting old
[04:19] <Bilford> whats he use the computer for
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> Bilford: Why not install linux onto the pocket pc ? could be interesting
[04:20] <Bilford> I cant connect to it
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> What model is it ?
[04:21] <Kmirno> Bilford: he droped physics for Molecular bilogy, he worked for i.a.r.c as a biologist, he use it for reports, mails and stuff like that I guess.. there'snt that much math in that job. He's on pention (you know ? too old stop working) since 2000 ... He didn't use much computers since them
[04:22] <Kmirno> then*
[04:22] <Bilford> Dell Axim
[04:22] <Kmirno> Bilford: I'm not sure he ever heard about windows xp neither
[04:22] <Bilford> lol
[04:23] <james_xxx> could someone give me a command line entry that will upgrade me from xubuntu breezy to xubuntu dapper?
[04:23] <Bladesonfire> I've always had bad experiences upgrading, but if you really want to, the wiki has some pointers
[04:24] <james_xxx> i just upgraded to kubuntu dapper on this machine, and it worked perfectly
[04:26] <Bladesonfire> james_xxx: Use the same process for Xubuntu, then... it's the same OS underneath
[04:26] <Bilford> wait until tomorrow
[04:27] <DarkAdmiral> tomorrow dapper will be released?
[04:27] <Bilford> yes
[04:27] <DarkAdmiral> cool
[04:28] <DarkAdmiral> and when do they start the next project?
[04:28] <Bilford> tomorrow
[04:29] <Bilford> 6.10  planned for October, 2006  Edgy Eft
[04:29] <Vampis> oh, nise
[04:29] <Hobbsee> Bilford: give them a few days off :P
[04:29] <DeBert> to bad kubuntu is released with this ugly artwork
[04:29] <Bilford> no
[04:30] <Bilford> theyre here to serve me
[04:31] <DarkAdmiral> DeBert: what do you mean?
[04:31] <Hobbsee> haha
[04:31] <DeBert> DarkAdmiral: i just think kubuntu doesn't look good
[04:32] <DarkAdmiral> DeBert: it's on you to change it ;)
[04:33] <robin_> lol
[04:33] <robin_> i'm using the installer
[04:33] <robin_> and I'm at the point of the partition stuff
[04:34] <robin_> default it want to erase all.
[04:34] <DeBert> DarkAdmiral: yep, but i shouldn't have, i'm not very demanding
[04:34] <robin_> and if I do manually, the prepare partition couldn't fit in my 1024 screen :D
[04:34] <robin_> it's twice as big in width.
[04:34] <robin_> :\
[04:34] <joch> robin_: you can move the windows with alt+click-and-drag
[04:35] <robin_> yes I know
[04:35] <robin_> but kinda strange huh :)
[04:35] <robin_> can't resize it either..
[04:39] <robin_> and now the installer crashes..
[04:39] <robin_> sigh
[04:41] <robin_> hmm maybe I should wait till tomorrow.
[04:41] <robin_> I suspect things are working than :)
[04:41] <robin_> I hope*
[04:53] <Lynoure> It's cute how you keep your status visible on your nick :)
[04:55] <Bladesonfire> People don't do that anymore? =P
[04:56] <Bilford> how do you make Konversation transparent
[05:02] <simp> is there a way to extract .rar in ubuntu?
[05:04] <apokryphos> simp: install unrar-nonfree and then: unrar x somearchive.rar
[05:04] <simp> so i just search for unrar
[05:04] <simp> :)
[05:04] <simp> tnx
[05:05] <apokryphos> it's in multiverse though, so make sure you've got that enabled
[05:05] <v3ctor> sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[05:06] <simp> ok
[05:06] <apokryphos> no, nonfree works a lot better
[05:07] <OlliK> sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:07] <OlliK> sudo apt-get install kde
[05:07] <apokryphos> OlliK: ??
[05:08] <OlliK> apokryphos: All you need is the firefox installation and then it should work
[05:08] <apokryphos> what should work?
[05:08] <OlliK> apokryphos: just open a konsole and then type: sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:08] <_silje> Hi everyone, does anyone know if there are any kubuntu distros with 2.6.14 kernel available
[05:08] <_silje> ?
[05:08] <apokryphos> OlliK: what are you talking about?
[05:08] <OlliK> apokryphos: then it will ask you a password, in that case you have to give your _own_ password,
[05:08] <apokryphos> ...
[05:09] <apokryphos> OlliK: I think you're looking for someone else =)
[05:09] <OlliK> apokryphos: there is no root in ubuntu/kubuntu in the way there is in other linux distros, that's why you can use sudo
[05:09] <OlliK> apokryphos: I mean you should use sudo
[05:09] <_silje> Is there reeleaased a kubuntu with 2.6.14
[05:09] <h3sp4wn> OlliK: are you a bot ? you sound like one
[05:09] <OlliK> h3sp4wn: No I'm not a bot!
[05:09] <OlliK> h3sp4wn: I'm just trying to be helpful :(
[05:10] <OlliK> h3sp4wn: I know when I didn't know these things, other people in IRC were helpfull for me...
[05:10] <XVampireX> People are mean
[05:10] <_silje> well
[05:10] <apokryphos> OlliK: why are you telling me how to install firefox then?
[05:10] <_silje> can someone please trie to be helpfull to me
[05:10] <apokryphos> _silje: I don't think there is, no
[05:11] <OlliK> _silje: hi, what's your prob?
[05:11] <OlliK> _silje: do you need 2.6.14 kernel especially?
[05:12] <h3sp4wn> OlliK: I just thought you were answering a non existant question (which seemed to me strange)
[05:12] <_silje> I want a kubuntu with kernel 2.6.14 out of the box, not 2.6.12 neither 2.6.15/16, cuz 2.6.12 doesn't recongnize neither my wired card or wireless card. and when i install with 2.6.15 or 2.6.16 i get Bios error. But when 2.6.14 it runs okey, everything works
[05:12] <h3sp4wn> OlliK: I apologise
[05:12] <OlliK> h3sp4wn: oh.. i c :(
[05:12] <OlliK> h3sp4wn: It's ok, it was probably my mistake
[05:12] <visik7> h3sp4wn: file a bug
[05:20] <eeos> hi there. I was reading a bit about unbuntu and co. I discovered that some of the stuff that are released by Canonica are not open source, for example rosetta or launchpad. Do you know why?
[05:27] <Bladesonfire> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:31] <skipster23> can anyone here help me with a a Kaffeine error
[05:32] <Bladesonfire> skipster23, we can try?
[05:32] <ctothej> if you have dual head set up, how can you move an application between the 2 instances of x so you can switch its screen?
[05:32] <skipster23> here it is
[05:32] <skipster23> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:33] <skipster23>   Major opcode:  144
[05:33] <skipster23>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:33] <skipster23>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:33] <skipster23> Failed to open device
[05:33] <Bladesonfire> ctothej, two instances? So you have two monitors configured in your xorg file, as opposed to twinhead?
[05:33] <skipster23> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:33] <skipster23>   Major opcode:  144
[05:33] <Bladesonfire> ctothej, I don't think it's possible
[05:33] <skipster23>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:33] <skipster23>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:33] <skipster23> Failed to open device
[05:33] <skipster23> ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/share/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (373)
[05:33] <skipster23> DVB 0 : No such file or directory
[05:33] <Bladesonfire> skipster23, what exactly are you trying to do?
[05:33] <skipster23> DVB 1 : No such file or directory
[05:33] <skipster23> DVB 2 : No such file or directory
[05:33] <skipster23> DVB 3 : No such file or directory
[05:33] <skipster23> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[05:33] <ctothej> Bladesonfire: i have read that when you have dual head set up, it is actually 2 instances of X running. 1 per monitor
[05:34] <skipster23> play mp3's
[05:34] <ctothej> i like having the taskbar on both, but i want to be able to drag windows across the screens as well... or at least send them to the next screen you know
[05:34] <Bladesonfire> ctothej, okay, I don't believe it's possible ... you'd have to set up 1 instance to be able to do that
[05:35] <ctothej> Bladesonfire: ok, i figured that. I had problems setting up big desktop mode, so i had to stick with the dual head setup.
[05:35] <Bladesonfire> ctothej, I'm running twinhead right now and it allows you to have the taskbar span across both windows and be able to move the windows across (done through twinhead config)
[05:35] <ctothej> how so?
[05:35] <Bladesonfire> skipster23, did you install the MP3 capabilities? wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:36] <Bladesonfire> ctothej, do you have a nvidia card?
[05:36] <chavo> I just put one taskbar on each screen here, much tidier
[05:36] <ctothej> Bladesonfire: no, ATI
[05:36] <chavo> ohh ATI
[05:36] <Bladesonfire> chavo, I do that, too
[05:36] <ctothej> i know, what was I thinking...
[05:36] <skipster23> what is the url, i've been to so many urls trying to this
[05:36] <Bladesonfire> ctothej, grr... I don't know how to configure dual head for an ATI
[05:36] <Bladesonfire> skipster23, that was the URL
[05:37] <ctothej> im happy i got both screens up with their native resolutions. its weird because I can move the mouse back and forth, but not applications.
[05:38] <Bladesonfire> ctothej, I remember when I was in your situation back in the day ... you need the one instance... forgot what the technical reason was
[05:39] <skipster23> i'm looking and trying to install the windows codecs
[05:39] <ctothej> Bladesonfire:  you remember where you looked for the solution?
[05:39] <Bladesonfire> ctothej, well, mine was with a nvidia card and using twinview
[05:39] <Bladesonfire> Are you using xinerama?
[05:40] <ctothej> no.
[05:40] <ctothej> i have heard of it, but dont really know what it is
[05:40] <chavo> ctothej, it's what lets you drag windows across the screens
[05:41] <Bladesonfire> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184704&highlight=xinerama
[05:42] <Bladesonfire> Looks like that guy has a working xorg for xinerama
[05:42] <Bladesonfire> with xinerama
[05:42] <Kadran> hi skipster23
[05:42] <ctothej> chavo, Bladesonfire: Adept tells me that libxinerama1 is installed...
[05:42] <Bladesonfire> Oh, it's not a package... just a parameter you put into your xorg.conf
[05:42] <ctothej> i just happen to be in there looking
[05:42] <ctothej> oh nice
[05:43] <Bladesonfire> This might help, too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo
[05:43] <Bladesonfire> Although I'll admit, I didn't read it
[05:43] <ctothej> hey thats cool. thanks alot.
[05:44] <Bladesonfire> Hopefully those forum posts hold some good info
[05:44] <orco> Hola
[05:46] <orco> Hi! I've got a problem with dpkg... I "lost" /var/lib/dpkg directory
[05:46] <DjDarkman> hy ,when will i`ll be able to download dapper?
[05:47] <Kadran> tell skipster23 about !w32codecs
[05:47] <Kadran> ubotu: tell skipster23 about w32codecs
[05:48] <Kadran> !w32codecs
[05:48] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[05:49] <Kadran> hi guys how to make the bot tell something to someone
[05:50] <ctothej> chavo, Bladesonfire: ROCK! i can move the windows across now... Thank You!
[05:50] <chavo> nicde
[05:50] <chavo> nice even :)
[05:50] <Bladesonfire> Woo hoo =D
[05:50] <Bladesonfire> I love that feeling of accomplishment =D
[05:52] <ctothej> Bladesonfire: on a totally different note, you use kmail or a different e-mail client?
[05:52] <Bladesonfire> I use Kmail for the integration between the mail, calendar, and to-do
[05:52] <Bladesonfire> (main reason I moved away from Thunderbird)
[05:52] <Kadran> does any one use hotway and hotsmtp ?
[05:52] <Bladesonfire> Kadran, not i
[05:53] <Kadran> Bladesonfire: i want to open my hotmail account using kmail
[05:54] <Kadran> i wish kopete support skype protocol :)
[05:55] <Bladesonfire> Kadran, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102327&highlight=hotmail+kmail
[05:55] <Bladesonfire> The forums are very helpful =D
[05:55] <Kadran> thanks Bladesonfire
[05:55] <Bladesonfire> np
[05:57] <ctothej> Bladesonfire: in kmail, i have an IMAP mail setup. when i delete mails, they are put into my local trash. how can i set it up so that they dont need to be downloaded but just moved into my IMAP's INBOX.TRASH folder?
[05:58] <Bladesonfire> ctothej, I actually don't use an IMAP setup, but try using a filter on the incoming mail
[05:59] <joch> ctothej: you can specify which trash folder to use in the settings
[06:01] <skipster23> Bladesonfire: Thanks, I kept going wrong when changing the repositories
[06:01] <skipster23> i've got it know
[06:01] <Bladesonfire> Good to hear =D
[06:02] <skipster23> kadran: thanks for your help yesterday if it wasn't for you i probably would have gave up
[06:02] <ctothej> joch: where is the option? i cant find it
[06:02] <joch> ctothej: can't remember exactly but i think it's where you set up your user profile
[06:03] <joch> name, email address etc
[06:03] <skipster23> i'm just so sick of winblows (aka: windows) theres nothing cool anymore its just time to learn somthing else
[06:04] <ctothej> joch: Got it. you were right. at the bottom of the Modify Account window. Thank you.
[06:05] <joch> ctothej: great
[06:07] <swoke> Hello.
[06:08] <slow-motion> re
[06:08] <swoke> Since new update, I can't get fglrx working anymore (lsmod is ok), any idea ?
[06:13] <h3sp4wn> swoke: what versions do you have installed of fglrx and linux-restricted-modules ?
[06:15] <FaxeSystem> what's the repository for the w32, mp3, libdvdcss2 ?
[06:16] <apokryphos> FaxeSystem: for mp3, /msg ubotu mp3, for w32 and libdvdcss /msg ubotu seveas
[06:16] <Bladesonfire> or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:16] <Kadran> skipster23: np here you can find any help you need any time :)
[06:16] <apokryphos> same thing, yup
[06:16] <FaxeSystem> thank you
[06:17] <skipster23> thanks
[06:20] <skipster23> i have been offered this job to learn and take care of linux servers like a few (wellsfargo branches and other corperations and small companys) throughout Az.)
[06:21] <skipster23> i haven't decided yet though this linux stuff is hard but i think i'm getting the hang of it
[06:22] <GazzaK> skipster23: it is fun to learn though
[06:23] <skipster23> ya as long as its somthing new
[06:23] <lwizardl> can I use a network printer in kubuntu? its installed on a xp machine with filesharing setup and i have the printer set to share also
[06:23] <GazzaK> more fun for me than learning windows stuff again (I'm IT support)
[06:23] <Kadran> skipster23: may i suggest having a course like lpi or linux+ to help you learn faster
[06:24] <Kadran> and also keep being here some things discussed in this room are more cool than any course
[06:26] <Kadran> i don't know what bill gates wants the hotway says "The server said: "Hotmail said you must pay money to have WebDAV access"" did any one got hotwayd working fine?
[06:26] <skipster23> what is the difference in blackdown java and sun java
[06:27] <dr_willis> suns is the official
[06:27] <dr_willis> blackdown is a  GPL project - i belive. , i always seem tohave to use suns official java to get stuff working right
[06:28] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: have you tried ibm's java ?
[06:28] <dr_willis> h3sp4wn:  nope. :)
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: Neither have I but I think it should be pretty compatible
[06:29] <dr_willis> h3sp4wn:  all it takes is 1 app to not work. :P and  its back to me using SUNS which should work. Lol
[06:30] <dr_willis> Azaurus and Puzzlepirates seem to be a little picky
[06:30] <r0xz> Hmm, kubuntu should be in this list http://www.madtux.org/all_downloads.php?product_type=TRN
[06:31] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: I try to avoid using java apps when I can but I would take speed over compatibility most of the time
[06:31] <dr_willis> all the speed in the world dont matter.. if it dont work. :)
[06:39] <armedking> does the update to dapper for ubunto also work for kubuntu? or is there an other way?
[06:40] <imbrandon> yes it works for kubuntu also
[06:41] <armedking> Tnx m8, Does it update my repository's to?
[06:53] <dizy> hi guys... i was just wondering how to make use of my forward & back mouse buttons in firefox... they currently act as scroll up and down... same thing my wheel is doing
[06:54] <NthDegree> i have no clue dizy
[06:54] <skipster23> what is the best way to burn iso's
[06:54] <NthDegree> skipster23:  use K3B
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> skipster23: cdrecord
[06:55] <NthDegree> hmmmmmmmm
[06:55] <NthDegree> did i get kicked from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:55] <NthDegree> r0fl
[06:55] <RadiantFire> morning yo
[06:55] <RadiantFire> lol, silly NthDegree
[06:56] <Seveas> NthDegree, yes. And from #ubuntu+1
[06:56] <NthDegree> ah poo lol
[06:56] <Seveas> you should switch off the annoyign away messages
[06:56] <ziza> question: where in the system settings can i set the time when my monitor should be put into standby-mode (not turning it off completely)
[06:56] <RadiantFire> lol
[06:57] <NthDegree> Seveas I registered [AWAY] NthDegree aswell as NthDegree so I could use my away in the openbsd :P
[06:57] <Seveas> NthDegree, the nicknames are fine, but the messaging "NthDegree is back..." not
[06:57] <Seveas> switch that off.
[06:57] <NthDegree> oh
[06:57] <DeadS0ul> do any of you have k3b installed on dapper drake?
[06:59] <NthDegree> Seveas:  I forgot where the bits are in konversation for it
[06:59] <NthDegree> oh found them
[07:00] <NthDegree> ok is it sorted
[07:00] <NthDegree> my nickname stays the same now and no messages appear
[07:01] <skipster23> deadsoul: yes
[07:07] <DeadS0ul> skipster23: how so, cos i can't get it to install anymore, there are conflicts =(
[07:08] <_clem> Hi there, I've asked that in #ubuntu already but noone seems to know: will the Release Candidate get any modification done before it becomes the final release tomorrow ?
[07:09] <zeccoz> rebooting modem brb
[07:09] <thompa> well yes iuts the updated version
[07:10] <skipster23> deadS0ul: in your konsole type: sudo adept_installer, and try uninstalling it then installing it
[07:10] <thompa> _clem: if you do upgrade its same thing in RC
[07:10] <DeadS0ul> alright
[07:10] <_clem> I mean, are the 25th of May's RC and the final release the same.. any bug fix between them ?
[07:11] <thompa> unless you had some issue installing in RC, such as nvidia mismatch
[07:11] <_clem> I want to test the distribution and review it... but I just want to make sure I have the final product before criticizing it.
[07:11] <thompa> then wait until the 1st
[07:12] <_clem> yes... I was affraid you'd say that :)
[07:12] <thompa> there are all the upgrades in it
[07:12] <thompa> im doing a review also
[07:12] <_clem> thompa : are you waiting for tomorrow ?
[07:12] <thompa> the installation is different between RC and final if there are things not upgraded
[07:12] <thompa> yep
[07:13] <DeadS0ul> skipster23: nope
[07:13] <_clem> ok, I suppose it's wiser. You're right, I'll wait.
[07:13] <thompa> in the rc there were a few problems if you do not upgrade before installing nvidia-glx
[07:13] <_clem> ok
[07:14] <slow-motion> bye
[07:14] <_clem> I am right when saying that if I download Ubuntu, install it, and install kubuntu-desktop through APT, I will have exactly what I would have had with Kubuntu appart from the boot splash and grub artwork ?
[07:15] <thompa> if you review rc you would have to say that, but you can start by outlining some of the workings
[07:15] <_clem> well, you convinced me. I'll wait for the final release.
[07:16] <_clem> I've already wrote another article today.. maybe it's time for a break :)
[07:16] <_clem> written....
[07:17] <thompa> _clem: the only difference would be if you setup things like wireless in ubuntu first, that would effect the outcome
[07:17] <_clem> why thompa ?
[07:17] <thompa> some of the tools are different in kubuntu, system settings eg
[07:18] <thompa> its mostly a user problem if any
[07:18] <thompa> i prefer kubuntu because im used to kde
[07:18] <_clem> ok
[07:18] <_clem> same here.
[07:18] <_clem> I use Kubuntu, and I don't know much about Ubuntu itself.
[07:19] <thompa> i mean only if you start with ubuntu, then install kubuntu its different because you have setup in gnome first
[07:19] <_clem> I wanted to give it a look for the review though, especially cause of the new artwork.
[07:19] <thompa> ive noticed in gnome the menu contents dont appear right away in human theme
[07:20] <thompa> i think its supposed to be like that, cause if i change to another theme it reacts different
[07:20] <_clem> thompa: you mean there's a delay ?
[07:21] <Kadran> i am not viewing all the workgroups in the network in the samba, does any one know why?
[07:21] <_clem> thompa: I've noticed that in SUSE 10.1 as well. The menus were slow to appear, and sometimes they would actually appear before the icons did.
[07:21] <thompa> yes, but i can change the delay in preferences theme, details
[07:22] <thompa> like i choose crux theme, then in details chose human parts
[07:22] <_clem> thompa : no.. that was the wrong word.. I meant it was slow.. unwanted delay.
[07:22] <_clem> thompa : I thought it was because of beagle indexation first..
[07:23] <thompa> is it,? maybe
[07:23] <_clem> well I don't know. Beagle takes a lot of resources when indexing, but it's pretty small when it doesn't..
[07:23] <crimsun> _clem: that should only happen after a call to gtk-update-icon-cache
[07:23] <thompa> well i just switched back to human theme and now its not delaying
[07:24] <crimsun> thompa: see above.
[07:24] <_clem> crimsun: I don't really know.. this was observed in SUSE 10.1
[07:25] <thompa> ok. i like the large print theme, my monitor is 1440x900
[07:25] <_clem> my computer was a bit slow, but it felt like KDE was actually being more responsive than Gnome on it.
[07:25] <_clem> and anyway, I've always liked KDE better, even though Gnome is getting better and better looking.
[07:25] <thompa> then you must like konqueror
[07:26] <_clem> for web browsing ?
[07:27] <thompa> for file and web
[07:27] <_clem> well.. there's something I hate in konqueror.. and it makes me use Firefox for web browsing.
[07:27] <thompa> i got one mac guy to switch to ubuntu,
[07:27] <jarlath> Has anyone here used an Advent laptop? Im looking at one with good specs, but there arent any reviews on the net. I'm just wondering how good they are.
[07:27] <_clem> when I hit BACKSPACE it doesn't go back....
[07:28] <thompa> now that ipod works
[07:29] <thompa> best of luck, hope to see your review
[07:29] <guillermo> hi
[07:30] <ctothej> is there a program like window's webdrive for linux? basically it makes an ftp folder look like a local drive.
[07:30] <Kadran> gftp
[07:30] <ctothej> Kadran: thanks, installing as we speak
[07:31] <guillermo> i'm having problems installing kubuntu-desktop, I cannot retrieve the packages from the server; can I install it from my ubuntu cd?
[07:31] <Kadran> good luck
[07:33] <Kadran> guillermo: check why the problem is, sometimes the problem get fixed when typing 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[07:35] <guillermo> I get the message:  "Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[07:35] <guillermo> "
[07:36] <carlos_> hi.. i'm about to download kubuntu 6.06 ISO image, but not sure about the diference between Desktop CD and Alternate CD.. any hints?
[07:37] <Kadran> guillermo: ok try this 'sudo apt-get update'
[07:38] <Kadran> carlos_: you can wait for 7 hours so you can download dapper final, it is coming today :)
[07:38] <Shuriken> carlos_: Desktop CD is for a normal use, with a graphical installation
[07:38] <Shuriken> whereas install CD is in text mode
[07:39] <DeadS0ul> text mode ftw
[07:39] <guillermo> and then I try to install again KDE?
[07:39] <Shuriken> (Desktop CD is both Live and Install CD)
[07:39] <Kadran> guillermo: no why ?
[07:39] <Kadran> guillermo: just update it
[07:39] <carlos_> Shuriken: thanks..
[07:40] <carlos_> i'll wait
[07:40] <carlos_> i've already downloaded the old release
[07:40] <Shuriken> np !
[07:40] <carlos_> is it better to intall the old and update, or wait and download another iso file?
[07:40] <carlos_> which one is faster?
[07:40] <Kadran> carlos_: never mind you can just update it, it is soo easy,
[07:40] <guillermo> because I have here the gnome ubuntu installed and I want to install KDE
[07:41] <carlos_> Kadran: but i didnt install it yet! :D
[07:41] <Shuriken> carlos_: is your old release ever installed ?
[07:41] <carlos_> Shuriken: no
[07:41] <carlos_> I'm migrating from fedora to ubuntu..
[07:41] <Shuriken> so, you should download the finale 6.06
[07:42] <Kadran> guillermo: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same and you can install kde on ubuntu and will be like kubuntu brother :)
[07:42] <carlos_> ok.. i'll wait one more day to it.. :D
[07:42] <_clem> Kadran : desktop is a live cd which features a graphical installer that you can use from the running live os.
[07:42] <DeadS0ul> how is fedora, I haven't used fedora, since..uh..rh 8.1
[07:42] <_clem> Kadran : alternate is a text based install cd....
[07:43] <_clem> DeadS0ul : Fedora Core 5 is very impressive.
[07:43] <carlos_> i'm with FC5.. that is fine, but thos custom kernel let me crazy
[07:43] <carlos_> and I'm looking for a Desktop distro
[07:43] <_clem> yes, same here... custom kernel is a pain when it comes to install modules and drivers.
[07:43] <DeadS0ul> heh I use debian on my server, I need to customise the kernel to allow acls >| but I haven't done that yet
[07:43] <DeadS0ul> _clem: yeah that's why I don't wannna
[07:43] <carlos_> _clem: yes... that is it
[07:44] <carlos_> i'll use kubuntu as my desktop and intall vmware with some debian or slackware for testing and servers (test too)
[07:45] <ctothej> woo hoo. edited my first web application on kubuntu.. im psyched. (yeah i know, what a geek)
[07:45] <_clem> carlos_ : Kubuntu is great both as desktop and server.
[07:45] <carlos_> but i dont want to mix it..
[07:45] <_clem> carlos_ : Suse 10.1 and Fedora Core 5 are nice as well as desktop... if you don't miss APT too much that is.. and custom kernel also.
[07:45] <carlos_> today I have averythig in my FC install, that is a pain when I want to update..
[07:47] <nostrahungry> i just decided to try linux and got suse 10.1
[07:47] <DeadS0ul> Suse is suppsed to be great
[07:47] <nostrahungry> saw it at best buy and thought it looked like something neat to try
[07:47] <nostrahungry> well....
[07:47] <nostrahungry> after i got it...i ended up d/l kubuntu
[07:47] <nostrahungry> and i prefer it
[07:47] <DeadS0ul> ..I have my home dir on my server and mount it using nfs
[07:47] <ctothej> DeadS0ul: what about it is so great? (serious question)
[07:47] <DeadS0ul> ..has had the same shit on it since 99
[07:47] <_clem> carlos_ : I suggest
[07:48] <DeadS0ul> it's got great stuff if I recall correctly, installer, support etc
[07:48] <_clem> oh sorry... didn't mean to press enter :)
[07:48] <nostrahungry> but i dont know much about linux
[07:48] <nostrahungry> learning
[07:48] <carlos_> np
[07:48] <DeadS0ul> nostrahungry: you'll learn to love it, if you like messing aroudn with stuff and are a fast learner
[07:48] <nostrahungry> im studying for my A+ so i figured its needed
[07:48] <nostrahungry> need it*
[07:49] <_clem> nostrahungry : they're both great products. I prefer Kubuntu myself but was very impressed by SUSE 10.1
[07:49] <DeadS0ul> i don't have any certs =(
[07:49] <nostrahungry> i cant even figure out how to install firefox
[07:49] <nostrahungry> lol
[07:49] <_clem> in kubuntu ?
[07:49] <nostrahungry> access seems to be denied for every extraction i try
[07:49] <_clem> sudo aptitude install mozilla-firefox ?
[07:50] <RadiantFire> that would be apt-get
[07:50] <RadiantFire> not aptitude
[07:50] <_clem> why not ?
[07:50] <RadiantFire> aptitude is a ncurses version of synaptic
[07:50] <DeadS0ul> =P you have to swtich to administrator mode first man, it's know has super user or root
[07:50] <RadiantFire> !root
[07:50] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:50] <_clem> I usually do everything from aptitude.
[07:50] <crimsun> RadiantFire: aptitude has an apt-get compatibility mode, too.
[07:51] <DeadS0ul> haha yeah the whole idea of disabling root really confused me at first
[07:51] <RadiantFire> i actually like it
[07:51] <RadiantFire> its how os x works from what I'm told
[07:51] <DeadS0ul> ..i enabled it so I didn't have to type in sudo for everything, ...then I found out bout sudo -i
[07:51] <nostrahungry> my girlfriend cant use windows well....yet she finds this easier than i do
[07:51] <nostrahungry> iv been programming for years
[07:51] <RadiantFire> lol
[07:51] <nostrahungry> dont know why im not getting this faster than i am
[07:51] <RadiantFire> programming != computer savvy
[07:51] <Shuriken> RadiantFire: are you sure of that ? I think synaptic/adept are frontend for apt-get
[07:51] <DeadS0ul> habit
[07:51] <_clem> the way I see it, you can passwd root if you want, but you also have sudo all configured for you if your prefer... it's perfect.
[07:51] <nostrahungry> yes...but i keep trying things the windows way
[07:51] <nostrahungry> lol
[07:52] <DeadS0ul> diffeernt pardigm, windows tries to make thigns easier, linux tries to do things safer
[07:52] <nostrahungry> do you guys like solaris?
[07:52] <_clem> nope.
[07:53] <DeadS0ul> haven't tried it
[07:53] <_clem> I hate Solaris.
[07:53] <RadiantFire> i've been wanting to tinker with solaris
[07:53] <RadiantFire> I'm told 10 is a fat hog though
[07:53] <nostrahungry> fat hog....visual improvement...
[07:53] <DeadS0ul> _clem: ohh I wanna know why you're saying that
[07:53] <nostrahungry> according to your preference
[07:53] <nostrahungry> lol
[07:53] <RadiantFire> nostrahungry: by fat hog I was refereing to the fact the default install is like 4 GB
[07:54] <_clem> DeadS0ul : we use it at work. It feels like a linux box where every little app misses features...
[07:54] <nostrahungry> took a look at it years ago
[07:54] <nostrahungry> didnt like it
[07:54] <nostrahungry> now people are talking about the improvements in 10
[07:54] <bahbahbah> nostrahungry: Haven't seen solaris10 but I've heard some sweet things about it.
[07:55] <DeadS0ul> bahbahbah: you mean like dtrace?
[07:55] <DeadS0ul> _clem: ah
[07:55] <nostrahungry> question...just out of pure nosixness on my part
[07:55] <_clem> DeadS0ul : and the filesystem is managing licences I think... so command like cd or ls give inconsistent informations.
[07:55] <bahbahbah> I do have an old sun450 that causes me grief every now and then.
[07:55] <nostrahungry> do you guys like windows
[07:55] <DeadS0ul> _clem: I was always under the impression unix was way ahead of linux
[07:55] <DeadS0ul> nostrahungry: I like windows
[07:55] <nostrahungry> have you seen vista?
[07:56] <DeadS0ul> yeah
[07:56] <DeadS0ul> all their new features are in mac though
[07:56] <bahbahbah> DeadS0ul: dtrace is one of the things. And from what I've heard the new filessytem that they are working on is nothing short of amazing. Best thing to come out since SGI's xfs/cxfs.
[07:56] <_clem> DeadS0ul : like you see a directory that doesn't exist... Unix is dusty and old.
[07:56] <DeadS0ul> ever seen teh video of bill gate's commentary on vista with mac OS X instead of Vista
[07:56] <RadiantFire> Alot of stuff in Solaris 10 is borrowed from FreeBSD
[07:57] <RadiantFire> like their contained cells are whatever is modelled after BSD jails
[07:57] <carlos_> _clem: would u say something? < _clem> carlos_ : I suggest
[07:57] <DeadS0ul> BSD jails or OpenBSD jails?
[07:58] <nostrahungry> im thinking of trying vista sometime this week
[07:58] <DeadS0ul> _clem: sounds liek crap
[07:58] <nostrahungry> when i have time to mess around a little more
[07:58] <RadiantFire> DeadS0ul: I can't remember
[07:58] <DeadS0ul> RadiantFire: ah well
[07:58] <RadiantFire> I thought they were FreeBSD, but I could see them having come from OpenBSD
[07:58] <bahbahbah> RadiantFire: Really? Solaris borrowed from BSD? I thought it was the other way around.
[07:59] <_clem> carlos_ : my mistake.. I was about to say something then changed my mind and pressed enter by mistake.. (about using Debian Testing on your server)
[08:00] <carlos_> _clem: ohh.. ok, no problem..
[08:00] <_clem> sure everybody borrows from FreeBSD.
[08:00] <carlos_> actualy, it is not a server... :D
[08:00] <ctothej> how can i set kde to automatically enable numlock on boot?
[08:00] <carlos_> sometime I need mysql, apache, and something like this.. and I really dont want to mix it with my desktop
[08:00] <baby> hi guys i just installed dapper and when i rebooted it the desktop didnt come first but then i changed the consoles so finally could find it so how can fix it?
[08:00] <carlos_> but nothing used for anyone but me!!
[08:00] <DeadS0ul> ctothej: set it up in your bios
[08:01] <bahbahbah> baby: huh?
[08:01] <ctothej> DeadS0ul: ohh, hmm, ill have to check it out. thanks.
[08:01] <nostrahungry> how can i smash linux with a hammer without damaging my pc
[08:01] <nostrahungry> grrrr
[08:01] <RadiantFire> lol, what did it do?
[08:01] <_clem> lol
[08:01] <nostrahungry> nothing i need it too
[08:01] <nostrahungry> LOL
[08:01] <nostrahungry> thats it....im going to the book store in a bit
[08:02] <DeadS0ul> nostrahungry: you install windows Me over it
[08:02] <_clem> carlos_ : Debian Testing is a great experience if you haven't tried it already.
[08:02] <RadiantFire> not ME
[08:02] <nostrahungry> lol
[08:02] <RadiantFire> ewww!
[08:02] <DeadS0ul> I'll stick with sarge thank you
[08:02] <carlos_> _clem: yup, my website runs under debian.. :D
[08:02] <DeadS0ul> I used debian side for a while
[08:02] <carlos_> I like slackware too, as server
[08:02] <carlos_> that is what I use at work
[08:03] <nostrahungry> i was told by someone to learn with linspire
[08:03] <_clem> definitely.. I miss APT in Slackware though.
[08:03] <nostrahungry> ever heard of it?
[08:03] <DeadS0ul> yeah
[08:03] <DeadS0ul> don't bother iwth it
[08:03] <RadiantFire> I tinkered with slackware
[08:03] <_clem> well Freespire will be released in a month or so. Free version of Linspire.
[08:03] <RadiantFire> it didn't last long
[08:03] <DeadS0ul> go kubuntu or ubuntu, debian, fc
[08:03] <carlos_> _clem: there's a tool called swaret
[08:03] <RadiantFire> the install was a nightmare
[08:03] <carlos_> that is good
[08:03] <RadiantFire> the lilo install failed
[08:03] <RadiantFire> so I had to rescue it manually
[08:04] <RadiantFire> and install grub
[08:04] <_clem> carlos_ : I know.. but it's controversial, and the releases and all... I much prefer an APT based distro.
[08:04] <carlos_> _clem: sure!! it is much better..
[08:04] <DeadS0ul> fc has yum
[08:04] <nostrahungry> my choices also included xandros....but i didnt like the name
[08:04] <carlos_> yum is very good too..
[08:04] <nostrahungry> lol
[08:04] <carlos_> for rpm based distros
[08:04] <DeadS0ul> apt relises on the information in teh packages man, if they suck then apt will suck
[08:04] <DrewMarin> dude how do I get vba in a gui mode in kubuntu\
[08:04] <_clem> yum is actually better than APT but so slow.....
[08:04] <carlos_> that is true
[08:05] <DeadS0ul> apt has super cow powers man
[08:05] <carlos_> that repositories rebuild (dont know the name) is pain
[08:05] <_clem> lol
[08:05] <DrewMarin> and how do I update to 6.06
[08:05] <DeadS0ul> ...yeah thats' why apt with debian is so god damn good, because the debian guys are hardasses about their packages
[08:05] <DeadS0ul> DrewMarin: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade *
[08:05] <_clem> yep ! it makes a fast and stable package management.
[08:06] <_clem> DrewMartin : there's more to it between breezy and dapper.
[08:06] <DrewMarin> its Drew Marin
[08:06] <_clem> DrewMartin : you need to get an updater and run it... lemme find the link.
[08:06] <DrewMarin> no t lol
[08:06] <_clem> oops.. sorry :)
[08:06] <DeadS0ul> ah
[08:07] <DeadS0ul> you have to chagne your /etc/apt/sources.list from breezy to dapper and then run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:07] <DrewMarin> this is my first time in kubuntu
[08:08] <DrewMarin> I messed up my ubuntu system so I decide to give kubuntu a try
[08:08] <DeadS0ul> heh
[08:08] <DeadS0ul> the're no real difference
[08:08] <nostrahungry> how'd you mess it up
[08:08] <EvilIdler> Ugh, fonts grew when I upgraded to Dapper. And the kernel *still* can't boot, so I'm stuck with the stock nv driver :(
[08:08] <DeadS0ul> ...yeah how did you mess it up?
[08:08] <nostrahungry> did you try to install firefox too?
[08:08] <nostrahungry> j/k
[08:08] <DrewMarin> messing with the pannel
[08:08] <carlos_> well guys, gotta go... cya!! and thanks for the answers!!
[08:08] <DrewMarin> I tried putting the penguins on it
[08:08] <DrewMarin> and it froze
[08:09] <_clem> DrewMarin : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-May/000081.html
[08:09] <DeadS0ul> haha
[08:09] <DrewMarin> and wouldnt load the pannels when I loaded ubuntu back up
[08:09] <DrewMarin> the first time I have seen a evil penguin
[08:09] <nostrahungry> speaking of penguins.......is mandake/mandriva or whatever the hell its called any good?
[08:09] <DrewMarin> ???
[08:09] <bur[n] er> nope
[08:09] <bur[n] er> heh
[08:09] <DrewMarin> been a unix user for 4 days
[08:09] <bur[n] er> liar
[08:09] <DrewMarin> who me
[08:09] <bur[n] er> you've been a linux user for 4 days
[08:09] <DrewMarin> Im not lying
[08:10] <bur[n] er> unix != linux
[08:10] <DrewMarin> well Itried linux on other pcs but couldnt do anything on it becuase the hardware
[08:10] <nostrahungry> iv been one for few hours straight
[08:10] <nostrahungry> :)
[08:10] <DrewMarin> the system would crash b4 I did anything
[08:10] <_clem> nostrahungry: Mandrake 9.1 was good as I remember it... I'll review Mandriva One soon.. I don't have a clue if it's still good or not. As I remember it wasn't always stable..
[08:10] <DrewMarin> linux is alot easier than I thought it would be though
[08:11] <nostrahungry> iv been looking for something familiar at all........and was very excited when i noticed irc
[08:11] <nostrahungry> brag about it
[08:11] <bur[n] er> mandrake/driva uses rpms :\  bleh
[08:11] <nostrahungry> lol
[08:11] <DrewMarin> brag about what
[08:11] <DrewMarin> the people here pretty much take ur hand through everything
[08:11] <DrewMarin> nice people
[08:11] <DrewMarin> wait I gots an idea
[08:12] <nostrahungry> i learn best through reading/doing
[08:12] <bonggnu> holas
[08:13] <bur[n] er> hola... eres en un channel de ingles :)
[08:13] <DrewMarin> yea doing helps me
[08:13] <DrewMarin> but reading gets me bored
[08:14] <DrewMarin> Im installing ubuntu now
[08:14] <bur[n] er> it's not hard ;)
[08:14] <bur[n] er> DrewMarin: dapper?
[08:14] <_clem> DrewMarin : did you get the Dapper RC ?
[08:14] <DrewMarin> nope except installing from source
[08:14] <DrewMarin> nope
[08:14] <DrewMarin> I typed in: sudo apt-get update
[08:14] <pm> is it true that dapper release has been postponed again?
[08:14] <DrewMarin> and it gave me some error
[08:14] <bur[n] er> pm: not that i've heard
[08:15] <nostrahungry> whats the difference in ubuntu and kubuntu.....just the kde and gnome?
[08:15] <_clem> pm: source ?
[08:15] <DrewMarin> wait nm
[08:15] <bur[n] er> nostrahungry: basically
[08:15] <DrewMarin> it just updated the package list I think
[08:15] <pm> i don't want to wait anymore!!! :(((
[08:15] <bur[n] er> pm: just upgrade now! :)
[08:15] <nostrahungry> oh...and the fact that ubuntu has firefox with it already
[08:15] <nostrahungry> lol
[08:15] <_clem> nostrahungry : it's a matter of having everything on one CD, so there's two versions .. one for each big desktop..
[08:16] <pm> it rc, i want stable version
[08:16] <pm> it's *
[08:16] <bur[n] er> it's pretty stable...
[08:16] <chuck> Hi
[08:16] <bur[n] er> to be released in teh next 24 hours and there hasn't been a package updated in hte past 24
[08:16] <DrewMarin> yea I only had one problem which messed up my system
[08:16] <nostrahungry> i dont know why....but i dont like konqueror
[08:16] <pm> i've already got  dapper beta
[08:16] <bur[n] er> pm: so apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[08:16] <bur[n] er> :)
[08:17] <DrewMarin> oh I didnt do upgrade
[08:17] <DrewMarin> will do after installing the ubuntu base system
[08:17] <pm> i did it so i guess i have rc right now, i installed it when it was beta
[08:17] <_clem> bur[n] er: can you tell me if any package as been modified since RC was released (25 of may). ?
[08:17] <chuck> When I install kubuntu 5.1 and update it, it gives me a new kernel, with this new kernal the Xserver is does not work, has anyone else experanced this, or know a solution to it?
[08:17] <_clem> 5.10...
[08:17] <_clem> 10 as in October..
[08:19] <bur[n] er> _clem: there have been plenty of updates since then
[08:19] <_clem> ok
[08:19] <bur[n] er> chuck: just go to dapper :)
[08:20] <chuck> dapper?
[08:20] <bur[n] er> chuck: ubuntu 6.06...  hte next version
[08:20] <bur[n] er> chuck: run 'gksudo "update-manager -d"'
[08:20] <bur[n] er> that should upgrade you to dapper
[08:20] <chuck> ok...
[08:20] <bur[n] er> er... wtf is the kde based sudo thing...  you might not have gksudo
[08:20] <robotgeek> bur[n] er: that only works on ubuntu
[08:21] <bur[n] er> disregard chuck... run "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and edit all instances of "breezy" to say "dapper" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:21] <_clem> chuch : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[08:22] <_clem> yep
[08:24] <soon> Hi there folks ... just finished my first ever kubuntu install .. looks nice and WAUV !! does KDE load quickly ...
[08:24] <DrewMarin> hanybody know how to get vba to run with a gui
[08:24] <DrewMarin> same here soon
[08:24] <DrewMarin> I was usin gnome the last 4 days
[08:25] <RadiantFire> does anybody know how I can map the multimedia keys on my laptop to shortcuts?
[08:25] <DrewMarin> yea I need to know that also
[08:26] <soon> Already got myself into trouble though: tried starting kuser ... I wasnt prompted for a root password during installation, but using kuser I have changed it to my ususal pw. I can now su in bash, but Kuser claims the PW is wrong !!
[08:27] <LeeJunFan> soon: you should use the password of the first user you setup.
[08:27] <DrewMarin> how come it wont let me use gvba to boot vba
[08:28] <soon> LeeJunFan ... okay, but why though ?
[08:28] <RadiantFire> sigh, this is silly
[08:28] <LeeJunFan> ubotu: tell soon about root
[08:28] <DeadS0ul> RadiantFire: look up keytouch
[08:29] <soon> hmm LeeJunFan ... that could prove a problem - I started with a user 'ssss' (the keyboard setup was screwed during install) ... I hve since then deleted user 'ssss' !
[08:30] <DrewMarin> why dosent gvba work
[08:30] <rir1> Hi all
[08:31] <rir1> where is the module sound in kubuntu ?
[08:31] <chuck> bash: gksudo: command not found
[08:31] <chuck> bash: gksudo: command not found
[08:32] <rir1> i have a problem  no sound
[08:32] <LeeJunFan> soon: at least you made a root password first, su to root, then add your current user to admin group, you'll then be able to use sudo and kuser again.
[08:32] <rir1> i look in etc/module
[08:32] <DrewMarin> why dosent gvba work/??
[08:32] <LeeJunFan> soon: gpasswd -a [username]  admin
[08:32] <DrewMarin> wait nm I think I know why
[08:33] <LeeJunFan> soon: then when kuser asks for a password use the one for your current user, not root.
[08:33] <rir1> imbrandon: are you here ?
[08:33] <soon> thanks !
[08:33] <rir1> nixternal ?
[08:35] <rir1> how is the sound card detected ?
[08:35] <chuck> why am I getting "bash: gksudo: command not found"?
[08:36] <rir1> it seems the computer detected an AC97 but it's an intel SIS
[08:36] <bur[n] er> chuck: because gksudo is a gnome thing, and you have kubuntu
[08:36] <chuck> ah
[08:36] <bur[n] er> chuck: use sudo or kdesu
[08:36] <crimsun> rir1: both are correct. the codec is ac97-based, the dsp is sis-based.
[08:36] <rir1> thanks
[08:36] <apokryphos> kdesu if you're going to use a GUI application
[08:36] <crimsun> rir1: you control the mixer, which is the former.
[08:37] <rir1> crimsun : what do you mean
[08:37] <rir1> do you mean the mixer is mute
[08:38] <chuck> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:38] <chuck> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:38] <chuck> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[08:39] <crimsun> rir1: no, I mean volumes are controlled via the ac97 perspective. What's the issue?
[08:40] <rir1> no sound on kubuntu
[08:40] <rir1> so i follow ubuntu 's how to
[08:40] <rir1> and there is no driver in /etc/module
[08:41] <crimsun> rir1: /etc/modules is a red herring. Pastebin ``lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[08:41] <chuck> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:41] <chuck> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:41] <chuck> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[08:41] <chuck> I am confussed :(
[08:42] <bur[n] er> heh... just run sudo ;)
[08:42] <unition> whats the root pw for breezy ?
[08:42] <bur[n] er> unition: there isn't one
[08:42] <bur[n] er> !root
[08:42] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:42] <unition> well wtf
[08:42] <rir1> crimsun: thanks i didn't know the pastebin
[08:42] <chuck> "sudo: update-manager -d: command not found"  !!!! help me :(
[08:43] <bur[n] er> disregard chuck... run "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and edit all instances of "breezy" to say "dapper" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:43] <bur[n] er> you don't have the latest updates to breezy it seems ;)
[08:44] <chuck> I just ran adept-update
[08:44] <chuck> I should.
[08:44] <crimsun> rir1: please tell me the url after you've pasted, and hang 5, since I'm kinda busy (at work)
[08:44] <jack> Does anyone have Kweather working with Kubuntu ?
[08:44] <uwo> how can i make a short movie of my desktop (not snapshot, but movie while i am changing windows, etc.)?
[08:45] <bur[n] er> chuck: oh right... again, update-manager is part of the gnome ubuntu ;)  just do the edit like i said
[08:45] <chuck> ok
[08:45] <newuser> Anyone know how to upgrade Kubuntu 5.10 to 6.06
[08:45] <bur[n] er> uwo: byzanz or wink
[08:45] <bur[n] er> newuser... run "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and edit all instances of "breezy" to say "dapper" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:45] <uwo> burner:  tnx
[08:46] <chuck> When I run sudo kate /etc/apt... I get:
[08:46] <chuck> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:46] <chuck> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:46] <chuck> kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[08:46] <chuck> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[08:46] <bur[n] er> how bout "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:47] <chuck> ok that opened it
[08:47] <rir1> crimsun: si7012
[08:47] <rir1> stack AC97
[08:47] <DaSkreech> can kopete join Yahoo conference chats?
[08:47] <rir1> should work ?
[08:48] <crimsun> rir1: I need the url of your paste
[08:48] <rir1> sorry i don't know how to do it ?
[08:49] <chuck> just replace all the "Breezy" or also the "Breezy Badger"?
[08:49] <fatejudger> what ever happened to the whole Zeroconf thing with network printers
[08:49] <fatejudger> did that just never materialize?
[08:50] <DaSkreech>  man I hate Kopete :(
[08:50] <fatejudger> Kopete is awesome
[08:50] <DaSkreech> It's terrible
[08:50] <fatejudger> how is that?
[08:50] <rir1> crimsun: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/749583
[08:50] <DaSkreech> It doesn't do anything that I want it to do
[08:51] <fatejudger> such as?
[08:51] <DaSkreech> IM people off the fly
[08:51] <fatejudger> off the fly?
[08:51] <DaSkreech> Is my most recent reason to curse it
[08:51] <rir1> crimsun: did you get it ?
[08:51] <DaSkreech> fatejudger: What Protocol do you use
[08:51] <fatejudger> AIM, MSN
[08:52] <orco> Hi
[08:52] <DaSkreech> Well try and say hello to me on Aim
[08:52] <orco> i receibe a problem when updating saying it cannot configure libc6
[08:52] <orco> what's wrong with my kubuntu?
[08:53] <orco> s/problem/error
[08:53] <orco> :D
[08:54] <crimsun> rir1: yes, please be patient, I'll address it asap, but I'm talking with my boss
[08:54] <rir1> sorry
[08:55] <rir1> please take you time
[08:55] <rir1> i don't want to disturb you
[08:56] <orco> wow... now i get a segmentation fault when I try to upgrade... :/ gods... juass (pray paladine about that xD)
[08:58] <chuck> bur[n] er: ok I did just like you said then I got this error after it downloaded the updates:
[08:58] <chuck> Fetched 962kB in 7s (122kB/s)
[08:58] <chuck> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:58] <chuck> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:59] <chuck> o wait
[08:59] <chuck> I found whats wrong
[09:03] <visik7> will kde 3.5.3 be included in dapper sooner or later ? or I've to stuck with kubuntu.org packages ?
[09:04] <uniq> stuck with kubuntu.org packages.
[09:04] <uniq> most likely.
[09:05] <klerfayt> kdesu konqueror isn't working
[09:06] <visik7> uniq: but in 5 years will not be updated to bugfix releases ?
[09:06] <visik7> uniq: 3.5.3 is better then 3.5.2 expecially imap support
[09:07] <Kadran> hi visik7: is kde 3.5.3 is officially released?
[09:07] <visik7> sources yes
[09:07] <visik7> packages for dapper are available on kubuntu.org/packages
[09:08] <crimsun> rir1: amixer set 'Master' 77% && amixer set 'IEC958' off && amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0 && amixer set 'Sigmatel 4-Speaker Stereo' on
[09:08] <Kadran> visik7: but i don't get any thing when running apt-get update ?
[09:08] <rir1> crimsun: ok
[09:08] <visik7> Kadran: isn't in the official repos
[09:09] <Kadran> visik7: i have added other repos too?
[09:09] <visik7> Kadran: you need to add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353/ dapper main to sources.list
[09:09] <Kadran> ok i will do it thanks :)
[09:10] <visik7> I'm using it right now
[09:10] <Kadran> kde is alwayes cool
[09:11] <DaSkreech> Kadran: Wrong
[09:11] <Kadran> DaSkreech: you don't like kde ?
[09:11] <DaSkreech> It's Kool :)
[09:12] <Kadran> oh yeah right :)
[09:13] <jeroenvrp> I try to make a nice looking chart, but Openoffice, Koffice and especially Kchart are not very good.
[09:13] <jeroenvrp> does anyone know another chart-software!?!
[09:13] <DaSkreech> Dia?
[09:14] <visik7> is there a dia written in kdelibs or qt ?
[09:14] <Kadran> jeroenvrp: dia is fine but i hate to tell you that that ms visio is actually good and you can run it with wine
[09:15] <jeroenvrp> Kadran: no MS on my machine
[09:15] <visik7> :)
[09:15] <jeroenvrp> i will try dia
[09:15] <Kadran> me neither, but i have wine
[09:16] <jeroenvrp> me to, but no MS software
[09:16] <Kadran> i won't restart and leave linux :)
[09:17] <crimsun> rir1: progress?
[09:18] <sheldonc> dia is pretty good. i dont know if it draws the charts he wants it to, bu
[09:18] <rir1> nothing
[09:18] <rir1> no sound
[09:18] <crimsun> rir1: nothing what?
[09:18] <sheldonc> t as far as stupid diagrams for univ, it worked fine
[09:18] <_clem> the dot language is great for tree like graphs.
[09:18] <crimsun> rir1: does ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*start*.wav'' not work?
[09:23] <jeroenvrp> Kadran: dia is for diagrams, I mean charts
[09:24] <Kadran> jeroenvrp: did you tried kivio?
[09:25] <jeroenvrp> Kadran: is also for diagrams
[09:25] <jeroenvrp> I mean charts
[09:25] <Kadran> mmm, like flow charts?
[09:25] <jeroenvrp> no
[09:26] <jeroenvrp> like a chart of temperature
[09:26] <jeroenvrp> a population chart
[09:26] <jeroenvrp> etc
[09:26] <rir1> crimsun:  read but don't sound
[09:27] <Kadran> jeroenvrp: in other words something to draw graphs with? am i right?
[09:27] <jeroenvrp> Kadran: yes
[09:27] <rir1> crimsun: thanks... i have to go
[09:28] <Kadran> jeroenvrp: did you tried oo spreadsheet?
[09:28] <jeroenvrp> Kadran: yes, but I think it's poortly designed and makes ugly charts/graphs
[09:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to encode a streaming video played with mplayer in a file? avi for example
[09:31] <Kadran> jeroenvrp: you can get more gallary for ooo or use the gnome spread sheet
[09:31] <jeroenvrp> oh yeah gnumeric
[09:31] <Kadran> yes
[09:31] <Kadran> Tallia1Kubuntu: use soundkonverter
[09:32] <soon> is there no Kile for Ubuntu? Doesnt show up in Adept ....
[09:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sound??
[09:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it is a video file Kedran
[09:32] <Kadran> Tallia1Kubuntu: it is a program that can convert many file formats to anothe format
[09:33] <Kadran> oh no it is for sound
[09:33] <soon> Wauv ... Im having serious X problems here ... cant read anything in the text window ....
[09:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Kadran: furthermore it is a video stream.. not a file
[09:33] <Kadran> for vedio there is something called konverter
[09:34] <Kadran> Tallia1Kubuntu: you want to record something that is played in mplayer, right?
[09:34] <Blissex> Tallia1Kubuntu: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#tasksRecord
[09:35] <Kadran> soon i have it in mine, add respoteries
[09:35] <Blissex> Tallia1Kubuntu: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#tasksRecordPlay
[09:35] <ctothej> why would fglrxinfo tell me "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!" ??
[09:36] <soon> thanks ! Kadran
[09:37] <Kadran> you are welcome
[09:40] <ctothej> how can i test opengl 3d acceleration?
[09:42] <Kadran> ctothej: there is some open gl screen savers
[09:43] <ctothej> err. i knew it then. they were black. i need to get this 3d acceleration working
[09:43] <RadiantFire> glxgears
[09:43] <RadiantFire> it won't run without 3d accel
[09:44] <davidhouse> hi guys. i have some xmodmap bindings i'd like to load automatically when my laptop boots. i have them in my ~/.xmodmaprc file, and http://paste.lisp.org/display/20672 is my ~/.xinitrc file, but it's not working; the bindings aren't loaded. any suggestions?
[09:45] <ctothej> RadiantFire: know why fglrxinfo would tell me "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual" ?
[09:45] <davidhouse> is ~/.xinitrc automatically run? perhaps i need /etc/xinitrc?
[09:45] <davidhouse> or /etc/.xinitrc
[09:45] <RadiantFire> no
[09:46] <RadiantFire> unless your not using the ati provided driver
[09:46] <diop> looking for f77 compiler
[09:46] <ctothej> i am using ati's driver
[09:49] <serenity> hi
[09:50] <serenity> when will kubuntu be downloadable?
[09:51] <robotgeek> serenity: you can download it off www.kubuntu.org
[09:53] <serenity> robotgeek: i mean 6.06
[09:53] <dom> what irc clients are people using?
[09:53] <Kadran> serenity: it supossed to be at 1st june so it 's a matter of ~5 hours
[09:54] <serenity> so it will definitly tomorrow?
[09:55] <Kadran> i hope so,
[09:55] <Kadran> dom: Konversation
[09:55] <jorgp> dom: konversation
[09:55] <serenity> fine. I thought that it will take longer to put kde on ubuntu
[09:56] <Shuriken> dom: Konversation :D
[09:56] <DaSkreech> serenity: Nope it's an apt-get kubuntu-desktop away :-)
[09:56] <Kadran> serenity: you can now try kde 3.5.3 if you want
[09:57] <jorgp> is 3.5.3 out?
[09:57] <xwolf-> how many megabytes will breezy->dapper update take, approximately?
[09:57] <Shuriken> 3.5.3 is out ?
[09:57] <DaSkreech> KDE4!!
[09:57] <dom> far out
[09:58] <jorgp> I think there is a KDE4 preview scheduled for Sept
[09:58] <Kadran> yes it is :)
[09:59] <jorgp> is this still a valid bug? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/konqueror/+bug/31055
[09:59] <Shuriken> Kadran: uh ? Where did you get the info ?
[09:59] <Kadran> from visik7
[10:00] <Kadran> and he use it,
[10:00] <jorgp> sorry, not Sept, but Oct
[10:00] <jorgp> http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-4.0-release-plan.html
[10:02] <DaSkreech> jorgp: I'm pretty sure that's easy to prove wrong :)
[10:02] <Kadran> Shuriken: just add this to sources.list deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main
[10:03] <Shuriken> Kadran: thanks. But why the info didn't appear on KDE planet ?
[10:04] <Kadran> Shuriken: i am actually amaized my self i use a link to the latest kde but it don't point to 3.5.3 ?-)
[10:04] <jorgp> DaSkreech: what is easy to prove wrong?
[10:05] <DaSkreech> Random release plans :)
[10:05] <DaSkreech> Though they have been booking it on the individual projects if you follow appeal
[10:06] <Shuriken> so do I, kde-latest point to 352
[10:06] <Shuriken> +s
[10:06] <Kadran> me too
[10:06] <DaSkreech> `Mornfall is the adept maintainer correct?
[10:07] <Shuriken> is 3.5.3 a finale release ?
[10:07] <crazy_penguin> night all!
[10:07] <serenity> i have installed kde 3.5.3
[10:08] <Kadran> 3.5.3 is officially to be out at 23rd of may !
[10:08] <jorgp> well, 3.5.3 tarballs are in testing, but the guys in #kde-devel say its not official released yet
[10:09] <jorgp> having packages != released
[10:09] <Shuriken> Ok, that's whay i've never heard about it before
[10:09] <xwolf-> how many megabytes will breezy->dapper update take, approximately?
[10:09] <Shuriken> -a
[10:10] <jorgp> they said kde.org will be updated when its out
[10:10] <Kadran> jorgp: i am waiting :)
[10:11] <DaSkreech> Man am I going to be dissappointed when this comes out :-(
[10:11] <visik7> jorgp: but sources are in the stable brench on ftp
[10:12] <jorgp> Kadran: actually 3.5 branch was tagged 3.5.3 on 23rd may, not released
[10:12] <jorgp> visik7: hmm
[10:16] <jorgp> visik7: but they might not be the final tarballs, having packages != released
[10:16] <DaSkreech> When can we get Oxygen?
[10:18] <visik7> jorgp: I couldn't wait :)
[10:19] <jorgp> well, it probably does have tons of fixes
[10:22] <DaSkreech> If I go 64 bit with LInux can I run a mix of 32 bit and 64 bit apps?
[10:25] <kmon> DaSkreech: you'll need to set up a chroot
[10:25] <Reon> DaSkreech,  yes but it is a biatch
[10:26] <DaSkreech> So does kubuntu have a 64 bit repo?
[10:26] <kmon> sure
[10:26] <DaSkreech> where would I find the list?
[10:26] <kmon> kubuntu supports x86, amd64 & powerpc archs
[10:27] <kmon> list?
[10:27] <kmon> are you refering to the download site?
[10:28] <visik7> sparc ia64 and hppa from dapper (according to repos)
[10:29] <kmon> visik7: yeah... but I'm mostly refering to the "common" ones
[10:31] <apokryphos> DaSkreech: the same repository is used for all of them
[10:31] <apokryphos> apt determines which packages you need for you
[10:32] <DaSkreech> kmon: The sources.list entry
[10:33] <DaSkreech> apokryphos: really?
[10:33] <DaSkreech> that's pretty smart :)
[10:33] <apokryphos> yes
[10:33] <lmh> hi all
[10:33] <lmh> how can i set up grub to boot my console with 1040x1050 - resolution?
[10:34] <DaSkreech> Now all it needs is a changelog and I'm besotted
[10:34] <DaSkreech> well possibly a hint as to which repo a package is in
[10:35] <DaSkreech> Hmm Plasma is behind schedule
[10:37] <DaSkreech> how does pdiff work?
[10:38] <jorgp> visik7: how is 3.5.3 vs 3.5.2
[10:38] <visik7> the 2 things that I've noticed more is better imap in kmail
[10:38] <visik7> and faster konqueror startup
[10:39] <jorgp> konq startup is a plus
[10:41] <visik7> jorgp: a plus ?
[10:42] <visik7> jorgp: btw there is the changelog
[10:44] <jorgp> visik7: the faster startup
[10:46] <jorgp> visik7: where is the changelog
[10:46] <bahbahbah> how much longer until dapper is out? that's 00:00 GMT, right? ;-)
[10:47] <crimsun> bahbahbah: 11 hours-ish
[10:47] <ealm> Amarok doesn't play my mp3:s (though ogg works).. it just jumps past the mp3s in a second, and they appear as it they're played
[10:47] <PyroMithrandir> !mp3
[10:47] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:47] <PyroMithrandir> ealm^^
[10:47] <bahbahbah> ealm: have a google for easyubuntu...
[10:47] <DaSkreech> What about musicbrainz
[10:48] <DaSkreech> is there a easy way to get that with MP3 support?
[10:48] <ealm> what's that?
[10:48] <bahbahbah> DaSkreech: easyubuntu...
[10:48] <DaSkreech> bahbahbah: Really?
[10:49] <bahbahbah> DaSkreech: really!
[10:49] <DaSkreech> I've never quite understood what the big deal with MP3 is
[10:49] <DaSkreech> If we can use Mono we can use MP3
[10:49] <jorgp> it all started with redhat
[10:49] <jorgp> they where the first to make a release without mp3 support
[10:50] <DaSkreech> I know
[10:50] <bahbahbah> DaSkreech: not really. frauenhofer (that owns the mp3 format) wants those who make players to pay them a fee if I'm not misstaken.
[10:50] <kmon> DaSkreech: not really. MP3 is patent encumbered, .NET is an ECMAC Standard
[10:50] <DaSkreech> But they don't ship with Mono either and it has the same ramification as MP3 and no one else seems to care
[10:51] <DaSkreech> kmon: C# is a standard
[10:51] <DaSkreech> Slight difference
[10:51] <kmon> the clr
[10:51] <kmon> as well
[10:52] <jorgp> so can I just apt-get kubuntu-desktop to switch to kubuntu
[10:53] <jorgp> from ubuntu
[10:53] <jorgp> dapper
[10:53] <kmon> jorgp: yes, but installing the kubuntu-desktop package doesn't unintall the ubuntu one
[10:53] <kmon> so you'll end up with both
[10:54] <jorgp> thats ok
[10:54] <DaSkreech> I thought it was funny you remove the Kubuntudesktop but not the ubuntu one :)(
[10:54] <CaBlGuY> well, the "ubuntu one" as u guys keep saying.. is the defualt win X environment..
[10:54] <ealm> thanx guys for EasyUbuntu. (K/Edu)ubuntu is the sh*t!!!!!
[10:54] <CaBlGuY> the Okey~Dokey! "desktop" environment is just an add on..
[10:55] <CaBlGuY> err K, I mena..
[10:55] <CaBlGuY> mean.. theres also Gnome desktop environment..
[10:55] <CaBlGuY> it's not a "kubuntu" distro.. it's just an add on for the ubuntnu distro.
[10:56] <DaSkreech> I know
[10:56] <DaSkreech>  like the Gnome desktop is the addon for the Ubuntu distro
[10:56] <DaSkreech> and the educational one
[10:57] <DaSkreech> and hopefully the E one :)
[10:57] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[10:57] <DaSkreech> but you can remove the KDElibs package and everything kubuntu goes
[10:57] <CaBlGuY> I like the gnome "sleek" look..
[10:57] <DaSkreech> Kinda hard to do that with the Gnome desktop
[10:57] <CaBlGuY> the K. envirn is a bit more "demanding"..
[11:01] <morrow> !skype
[11:01] <ubotu> skype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[11:05] <nico8481> hi
[11:11] <CaBlGuY> what distro is Ubuntu based on? I can't member..
[11:11] <kosh> debian
[11:11] <klerfayt> !debian
[11:11] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[11:11] <DaSkreech> !frostwire
[11:11] <ubotu> I heard frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWireHowTo
[11:12] <nicole> hi. I've got troubles configuring my printer. I installed foo2zjs from here http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/
[11:13] <CaBlGuY> HmMmMmMmM
[11:13] <nicole> because the shipped one didn't work "no permissions/driver not available" or something like that.
[11:13] <CaBlGuY> U looked for the driver for yor printer already?
[11:13] <nicole> yeah. And it loads. And /sbin/foo2zjs-loadfw 1005 /dev/usb/lp0 says
[11:14] <DaSkreech> Does Frostwire work on Java 5?
[11:14] <nicole> MFG:Hewlett-Packard;MDL:hp LaserJet 1005 series;CMD:ZJS;CLS:PRINTER;DES:hp LaserJet 1005 series;FWVER:20021030;
[11:14] <nicole> MFG:Hewlett-Packard;MDL:hp LaserJet 1005 series;CMD:ZJS;CLS:PRINTER;DES:hp LaserJet 1005 series;FWVER:20021030;
[11:14] <nicole> /sbin/foo2zjs-loadfw: HP LaserJet 1005 firmware already loaded into /dev/usb/lp0
[11:14] <nicole> n
[11:14] <nicole> while lpq says
[11:14] <CaBlGuY> Ummm use pastebun when ya got somethin like that again...
[11:14] <CaBlGuY> WAIT..
[11:14] <nicole> lpq: error - no default destination available.
[11:14] <CaBlGuY> !tell  nicole about pastebin
[11:15] <BlankB> mmm pastebuns.
[11:15] <nicole> for three lines?
[11:15] <CaBlGuY> :|
[11:15] <CaBlGuY> damn kids..
[11:15] <CaBlGuY> :p
[11:15] <CaBlGuY> we try not to "take advantage" of the channel.
[11:16] <CaBlGuY> anyway...
[11:16] <bahbahbah> CaBlGuY: Pastebun? Like "I sneak past the bun" kind of bun? http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.amiga.misc/msg/f78b808c67b7bc37?q=BFINN&hl=en&lr=&rnum=1
[11:16] <CaBlGuY> doesn't look like the driver is loaded..
[11:16] <DaSkreech> Anyone use frostwire?
[11:16] <CaBlGuY> all it says is "firmware"...
[11:16] <CaBlGuY> :/
[11:17] <dracflamloc> whats a good kde ftp program like FlashFXP?
[11:18] <nicole> I tried to install it via the systems setting printers thing. It claimed to work but it didnt.
[11:18] <bahbahbah> dracflamloc: konqueror? kbear?
[11:19] <dracflamloc> i'll try kbear i guess
[11:20] <CaBlGuY> HmMmMmMmM
[11:20] <CaBlGuY> nicole IM not the gugru on printers or installing them so, only thing I would know to tell ya is to try installin the driver again and be sure it's the correct one, other than that, ...
[11:21] <CaBlGuY> sawwwreeee
[11:21] <nicole> no problem.
[11:21] <raven301_> Where is the sources.list located?
[11:21] <nicole> thanks anywaz
[11:21] <nicole> anyway.
[11:22] <DaSkreech> Blast I was lied to!
[11:22] <CaBlGuY> nicole NP, someone should be able to help out eventually.. just hang out for a while..
[11:22] <CaBlGuY> !printers
[11:22] <ubotu> printers is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[11:22] <CaBlGuY> or u can try there
[11:23] <serenity> how to create a mpeg-file with digiKam, with photo and music?
[11:23] <nicole> well. I fear I have to figure out the cups thingy
[11:24] <nicole> and get around the bug in the graphic config tool.
[11:24] <DaSkreech> Two things
[11:24] <DaSkreech> Does anyone have Frostwire and is there a way to get musicbrainz with mp3
[11:24] <DaSkreech> :-)
[11:25] <CaBlGuY> DaSkreech, I don't have frostwire, and not tried it, and not sure what musicbrainz iz.. :-p
[11:26] <CaBlGuY> U might try the main channel
[11:26] <vinboy> is xine better than gstreamer?
[11:26] <kosh> vinboy: usually
[11:27] <vinboy> thx kosh
[11:27] <kosh> vinboy: it is simpler and just seems to work a heck of a lot better
[11:27] <kosh> vinboy: it can also do 7.1 audio output which I like :)
[11:30] <jorgp> DaSkreech: deb http://archive.czessi.net/ubuntu/ dapper main universe
[11:30] <DaSkreech> CaBlGuY: The .. main channel?
[11:30] <DaSkreech> jorgp: musicbrianz?
[11:30] <jorgp> DaSkreech: add that to sources.list
[11:31] <CaBlGuY> DaSkreech yea.. #ubuntu
[11:31] <DaSkreech> CaBlGuY: hahaha! :)
[11:31] <jorgp> it has all the mp3 enabled stuff, like amarok 1.4 and musicbrainz w/ mp3 support
[11:31] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[11:32] <YazzY> hi u
[11:32] <YazzY> hi guys
[11:33] <CaBlGuY> YazzY Howdy U
[11:33] <CaBlGuY> hi d00d, d00det..
[11:33] <CaBlGuY> :p
[11:33] <YazzY> i have problems rebooting my toshiba satellite laptop, it says "Will reboot now" then debugging shows md:stopping allmd devices. Restarting system. No reboot fixup found for your hw.
[11:33] <YazzY> CaBlGuY: hi
[11:34] <YazzY> what the heck it the metter with reboot not being able to work ?
[11:34] <CaBlGuY> HmMmMmMmM that's a wierd one..
[11:34] <CaBlGuY> what version ya runnin.. breezy or badger?
[11:34] <kkathman> breezy and badger are the same :)
[11:35] <kkathman> you mean breezy or dapper I think
[11:35] <YazzY> CaBlGuY: dapper
[11:35] <YazzY> but the same issue was in breezy
[11:35] <CaBlGuY> ummmmmm
[11:35] <CaBlGuY> no, there was badger, and one b4 it..
[11:36] <CaBlGuY> anyway..
[11:36] <CaBlGuY> YazzY, can u get into the desktop environment, or command liine??
[11:36] <DaSkreech> jorgp: Who is in charge of this?
[11:37] <CaBlGuY> DaSkreech no one is "in charge"...
[11:37] <YazzY> CaBlGuY: sure
[11:37] <DaSkreech> lol
[11:37] <DaSkreech> Right keep saying that :)
[11:37] <CaBlGuY> YazzY ok, I was gonna say, if you can get to the command line, do a apt-get update.. so if that helps..
[11:38] <YazzY> CaBlGuY: no, it did not
[11:38] <YazzY> i updated it a short while ago
[11:38] <CaBlGuY> YazzY ahhh well then, U need someone more skilled then me.. :p
[11:39] <brandon_> does ktorrent support dht?
[11:41] <jorgp> DaSkreech: dunno
[11:41] <jorgp> brandon_: not yet
[11:42] <DaSkreech> jorgp: Will they have the updates for amarok?
[11:42] <jorgp> brandon_: 1.3 will
[11:42] <jorgp> DaSkreech: yes, 1.4.0a
[11:42] <DaSkreech> So should I get rid of the kubuntu repo that I'm using now?
[11:42] <brandon_> jorgp: when will that be released? i can't that damned azureus to work
[11:43] <jorgp> brandon_: I dont know, its been a long time and work is slow
[11:43] <pj-og77> Will kubuntu 6.06 LTS come out at the same time http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/182 as ubuntu?
[11:44] <DaSkreech> jorgp: Will it clash with the deb  http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main
[11:44] <Snake> pj-og77: yes
[11:45] <pj-og77> Ok. So now, why should I choose KDE over gnome? (I'm on a debian sarge with kde as my workstation for now)
[11:45] <brandon_> http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads
[11:46] <Snake> pj-og77: no reason to, just go with what you like :)
[11:46] <brandon_> looks liek there's a kubuntu deb in there
[11:46] <jorgp> DaSkreech: maybe
[11:46] <DaSkreech> ok I'll disable it
[11:46] <jorgp> visik7: svn was just updated 15 mins ago with this
[11:46] <jorgp> KDE 3.5.3 was released on May 31st, 2006
[11:47] <visik7> jorgp: ok
[11:47] <vinboy> why i  can't see gstreamer in amarok & kaffeine?
[11:47] <jorgp> [16:29]  <CIA-19> adridg * r547116 /trunk/www/sites/www/info/3.5.3.php: Fix the release date
[11:47] <jorgp> vinboy: if you are talking amarok 1.4, gstreamer is disabled
[11:47] <vinboy> jorgp: oh ic..
[11:47] <vinboy> thx
[11:47] <DaSkreech> jorgp: Can't connect to it
[11:48] <jorgp> DaSkreech: I just did
[11:48] <visik7> jorgp: any other changes a part from this ?
[11:48] <jorgp> no
[11:48] <visik7> ok so no update for the sources
[11:49] <jorgp> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/info/3.5.3.php?rev=547116&view=markup
[11:49] <visik7> nor for my installation
[11:49] <DaSkreech> jorgp: would they happen to have deb for it to download?
[11:50] <jorgp> DaSkreech: they should
[11:51] <DaSkreech> jorgp: Ok .. so I have musicbrainz installed already should I just do a reinstall
[11:51] <brandon_> if i'm dpkg installing something, how would i force it to overwrite files from existing packages?
[11:52] <jorgp> brandon_: man dpkg
[11:52] <brandon_> thanks
[11:57] <paveq> hi
[11:57] <paveq> when?
[11:57] <paveq> official dapper
[11:58] <paveq> * me wants download *
[11:59] <dvj> A+++ WHOULD DO BUISNESS WITH AGAIN
[11:59] <visik7> paveq: downoad rc
[11:59] <visik7> and install it
[11:59] <visik7> there are few updates
[12:00] <paveq> I have already
[12:00] <visik7> so enjoy it
[12:00] <paveq> whats with alternative cd and "setting up automated deployments"
[12:00] <paveq> I'm interested
[12:01] <paveq> I got 15 comps to be installed
[12:01] <paveq> computer class :)
[12:02] <paveq> alternative kubuntu release candidate didn't work
[12:02] <paveq> crc error, image's md5sum was correct
[12:02] <paveq> and burnt twice with different recorders
[12:02] <tinin> !xgl
[12:02] <ubotu> I guess xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"