[12:06] Hi, somebody can tall to me, if this posble to include linux-phc to offical kernel? (see bug #46952 today i try`d to boot from ubuntu-live cd on my frend`s laptop, and cpufreq selector don`t work in such a way) [12:06] Malone bug 46952 in linux-source-2.6.15 "cpufreq don`t work on centrino CPU in "dapper" (kernel: linux-image-2.6.15-23-686)" [Normal,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/46952 [12:07] green-mouse: We had this discussion just a day or two ago, didn't we? === fabbione [n=fabbione@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:08] green-mouse: A) That patch is crack and is just trying to cover up the fact that you have broken ACPI, B) Fix your ACPI tables, C) We're releasing in a day or two, the kernel's not getting changed. [12:09] infinity, not only I have broken tables, yes this hack but this can help to many plp... [12:10] green-mouse: From "man mkinitramfs": [12:10] /etc/mkinitramfs/DSDT.aml [12:10] If this file exists, it will be appended to the initramfs in a way that causes it [12:10] to be loaded by ACPI. [12:10] green-mouse: There should be plenty of HOWTOs out there (I'm a bit too busy to go hunting right now) on how to hack a DSDT update for your ACPI tables to make them "just work" [12:11] the Examples folder is not installed on an install from the live CD? [12:11] doko: it's in ~ [12:11] doko: not in ~/Desktop/ [12:12] infinity, infinity ok thenks, I will see what i can do with this, if scceed i will write how to :) === mvo_ [n=egon@p54A6747B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:13] dholbach: ping [12:13] dholbach: still around? [12:13] mvo_: pong [12:13] mvo_: yes, around === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-83-78.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:13] mvo_: still [12:13] bgertzfield: Still alive? [12:13] mvo_: are YOU still there? [12:13] dholbach: obviously [12:13] infinity: hai1 [12:13] er. hai! [12:13] http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/tmp/localechooser-chinese-fix.diff <- review greatly appreciated [12:14] bgertzfield: Japanese much? [12:14] infinity: un, shabererundakedo sa [12:14] the added hunk is a copy-and-paste of the block below, with s/\$LANGUAGE/${LANGUAGE}_${COUNTRY}/g [12:14] infinity: (yeah, I speak a little. :) === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-68-199.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:16] seems to be working so far, but I want to test pt_BR, pt, some-random-other-language [12:16] Kamion: Looks sane, I think... [12:17] Kamion: I should probably go fetch some context. [12:17] copy/paste is maybe not the most elegant way to do it but it's the safest, I think [12:17] Riddell: ping [12:18] Kamion: Ahh, yes, with a bit more context, it seems entirely sane. [12:18] also look at the templates file [12:19] grep for countrychooser/shortlist- [12:19] e.g. [12:19] Template: countrychooser/shortlist-ar [12:19] Template: countrychooser/shortlist-pt [12:19] Template: countrychooser/shortlist-pt_BR [12:19] Template: countrychooser/shortlist-zh_CN [12:19] Template: countrychooser/shortlist-zh_TW [12:19] no countrychooser/shortlist-zh, and therein lies the crash === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:24] Mithrandir: is suspend to disk known not to work on amd64? === sabdf1 [n=mark@host217-37-231-22.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:25] Kamion: oem-install asks for a password? [12:25] Kamion: Ahh. No default zh for political reasons, I suspect? === fabbione [n=fabbione@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:26] Kamion: Anyhow, yes, the bug (and the fix) make even more sense after generating the templates file and looking at it. [12:27] infinity: zh_CN and zh_TW are basically two different languages - different script etc. [12:27] two different written languages I mean [12:27] so it does make some kind of sense to choose them separately, aside from the geopolitical crap [12:27] Kamion: Well, zh_TW users should be able to read zh_CN, though not necessarily the other way around. [12:27] Kamion: But yes, point taken. [12:27] doko: elaborate? [12:28] I'm very tired, you need to not be terse :) [12:28] bgertzfield: Okay, I need to review your stuff right now before I pass out for the "night" (where "night" is 8:30am) [12:29] infinity: I'll drive rebuilds after this lot [12:29] Kamion: sorry :) I'm asked for a password during the oem-installation (amd64 DVD), but not for a name and a user name. I suppose, I shouldn't be asked for anything (after confirming the partitioning dialog) [12:29] Kamion: I assume this bug breaks both d-i and ubiquity? [12:30] (Hooray for common codebases -- common bugs!) [12:30] infinity: it does indeed [12:30] doko: no, that's correct, the password is for the oem user that gets created for customisation [12:30] it's kind of er not very well-documented, but that's what it's for [12:30] ok, thanks [12:31] is edubuntu liveCD on amd64 read to try now? [12:31] I think the installer does tell you that later on [12:31] seb128: Yes, except that Kamion's going to do a mass rebuild soon. :/ [12:31] seb128: Testing the current image to find OTHER showstoppers won't hurt. :) [12:31] infinity: oh? what change do we want to get? [12:32] seb128: Fatal localechooser bug in d-i and ubiquity. See above. [12:32] ok [12:32] I've a planner trivial fix to upload (planner is not on the CD afaik), should I upload it now so I don't forget about it or better later? [12:33] Better in -updates. [12:33] (define the mimetype as an xml format other way nautilus refuses to open a .planner) [12:33] We're aiming for a "change nothing but localechooser" rebuild, so all the previous testing isn't awaste. [12:33] ok [12:33] I don't think planner is on the CD [12:33] so it should not impact [12:33] Something even more trivial than your change (and with higher impact) was already rejected. :) [12:33] but as you wish [12:34] seb128: Well, if it's not on the CD, you can ask mdz or Kamion, but I suspect we'd all prefer to just get the CDs tested and let the archive as it stands now be "the final dapper" [12:34] A day of testing will make people cranky. Another day of testing tomorrow, because today wasn't good enough, will make people even more cranky. :) [12:34] fine, with me :) That was just to not forget about the fix again (I thought it was fixed but the upload got rejected some time ago) === poningru [n=poningru@ip24-250-215-175.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:42] se.{archive,releases} on new hardware and software now. poke me in case it has broken. === jcole [n=jcole@palrel1.hp.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jono [n=jono@88-107-11-56.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:47] hey [12:47] heyhey [12:48] heya Keybuk [12:48] hows things? [12:48] Kamion: I wonder, is there an en_SO translation? [12:48] (English as spoken to one's partner) [12:48] jono: uh... [12:48] jono: "Everything will be OK" [12:49] Keybuk: heh, I guess you are all working like nuts right now [12:49] something like that === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:51] ogra: tell me when you finished editing the wiki? [12:54] dholbach, sorry, resolving a conflict [12:55] dholbach, go ahead [12:56] ogra: merci [12:56] bgertzfield: The reason Mithrandir's hacking of debian/control worked, BTW, is cause your KVERS/MAIN_PACKAGE_BUILD stuff doesn't work. [12:57] bgertzfield: KVERS isn't set at all, so ifeq ($(KVERS), unknown) doesn't trip. [12:57] mdz, edubuntu install ppc all good [12:58] bgertzfield: I suspect you just want "ifeq ($(KVERS),)" [01:01] bgertzfield: If you can confirm that, the rest looks good, and I can just fix that and upload. === didymo [n=ashley@CPE-61-9-197-223.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:01] right, I can't make this break [01:02] Kamion: \o/ [01:03] Kamion: I'm still here to drive LP, so let me know when you're ready. [01:04] Kamion: did it turn out to be a small fix? [01:04] Kamion: Oh, I see it's uploaded already. [01:04] Kamion: Confirm that the one uploaded is the one you want? :) [01:04] infinity: should be ubiquity and localechooser uploads? [01:04] Just localechooser, so far. [01:04] Kamion sez "nearly" [01:05] (And a universe upload that is going in for free with this run as well) [01:05] sabdf1: two small fixes === Keybuk movedlocalechooser into manual-queue [01:05] Keybuk: May as well process the mopac7 upload too. [01:05] both ll_CC handling [01:05] Yay, MOTU. [01:06] infinity: ah, the legendary MOTU Freeze [01:06] "Freeze" ... "You moved!" [01:06] :) [01:06] sounds like the UI freeze [01:06] mdke: Bitter much? :) [01:06] sugar for all you bitter people :-) [01:07] infinity: that wasn't meant as bitter, just a joke [01:07] sabdf1: Hey, I'll be missing the release party, since I'm way over on the other side of the planet. Feel free to ship some goodwill over here. :) [01:07] infinity: yeah, process mopac! [01:07] I won't turn down some free sugar though [01:09] hot damn, we must have enough sydney users + developers to have a release party (or at least a few beers) down under [01:09] infinity: if you can organise it, i can chip in for some beers [01:09] ooh, release beer [01:09] sabdf1: Except that I'm in Melbourne, not Sydney. :P [01:10] doh [01:10] localechooser 0.27ubuntu22 and ubiquity 1.0.12 uploaded [01:10] release beer in Berlin too! :-) [01:10] debian-installer will need to follow once localechooser binaries are in [01:10] there's not even a release party in London yet it seems [01:10] hey guys ... are there any official ubuntu logotype documents available in the wiki? [01:10] night all, and thanks for chasing this one down kamion === sabdf1 [n=mark@host217-37-231-22.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:10] we can start livefs rebuilds once ubiquity binaries are in [01:10] holycow: what is a locotype document? [01:11] Keybuk: Manual queue processed? I have a publisher session waiting. [01:11] ok, go for it ... was going to do the publisher run myself, but if you have one ready to go, PUSH THE BUTTON [01:11] logotype document would be say like an svg file containing the logo in the official colours with the offical font and offical lettering [01:11] Button pushed. :) [01:11] (yes, the uploads I got mail for are the ones I wanted) [01:12] meh, i just started rsyncing the dvd ... [01:12] holycow: yes, the artwork pages have them [01:12] ogra: It's not going to change much. [01:12] mdke, oh! art work pages! of course [01:12] my thanks :) === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdke blinks [01:12] holycow, http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy/ [01:13] holycow, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official === holycow windexes mdke eyeballs [01:13] :) [01:13] Burgwork, sweet! [01:13] Keybuk / Kamion : I'll manually drive the buildds and the second publisher run. [01:13] holycow: greek? [01:13] infinity, i know but its horrible slow, so i suspect it to run still if the /current link changes [01:13] nope === mdke slaps Burgwork with a rtfwp [01:14] infinity: a debian-installer is to follow once the localechooser binaries are in ... we'll leave that in incoming in case you get round tuit before we get back to the hotel [01:14] Kamion: d-i can upload anytime, right? (As long as I don't let it in the buildqueue until the localechooser binaries are published) [01:14] Keybuk just suggested that, yeah [01:14] man this is great [01:14] appreciate it [01:14] preparing the upload [01:14] Kamion: yeah, let 'er rip. [01:14] <-- makin a nice looking manual for new home user [01:14] *parp* [01:15] debian-installer uploaded [01:15] Spiff. [01:15] mvo: hi [01:15] infinity: will leave that sat in u-q/incoming === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:16] you can push it around to the right place then [01:16] Keybuk: Yup, I'll mangle it when needed. Thanks. [01:17] Keybuk / Kamion : Grab yourselves a beer when you get to the hotel. This'll be a while anyway, and I can kick off the livefs builds while you're relaxing. === infinity goes to make himself a drink. [01:21] infinity: sadly bar will be closed by now [01:22] Go to a better hotel? :) [01:23] yeah, 'cos the K&K is so cheap and nasty [01:23] mmm... K&K Breakfast [01:23] this morning, the world was a HAPPY place [01:24] I should come get breakfast at the K&K [01:24] I could pretend to be fabbio and rob him of his breakfast [01:24] heh [01:24] lol [01:24] Can you do the accent? [01:24] thats hard [01:25] infinity: you should probably plan to sleep this week too [01:25] Me eats a can of tuna, and dreams of better breakfasts. [01:25] *hmm* what file contains the default permisions for home directories when new users added? i'd like to restrict home dirs to only their users [01:25] Keybuk: This is all part of my master plan to be back on my own timezone by the time we release. [01:25] Keybuk: So the lack of sleep right now is somewhat positive, in that regard. [01:26] holycow: I think it's in adduser somewhere. [01:26] holycow: /etc/adduser.conf [01:26] ah! damnation, nice thank you [01:26] holycow: Also, that's very much an #ubuntu question. [01:26] or #adduser [01:27] If adduser were sufficiently complex to require its own discussion channel, I'd be frightened. === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:27] (Well, under the hood, it is a bit complex, but the user interface certainly isn't) [01:27] have you looked at its code lately? [01:27] right ... [01:28] And here goes tuna can #2... [01:29] I wish I hadn't already eaten everything else in the house. :P [01:29] infinity: if you cut slices of onions into it it gets better [01:29] *shudder* === sivang does that all the time [01:29] sivang: See above about "eating everything else in the house"... That includes great tuna fixings, such as mayonnaise, pickles, onions, olives.... [01:30] All I have is.. 6 cans of tuna. And a pack of smokes. [01:30] And tobbaco doesn't enhance tuna very well. [01:30] infinity: ah, speaking of olives, are you only interested in olive oil , or other olive stuff from here? [01:30] not really [01:30] I wouldn't think tobacco can fix tuna just make it worse :-) [01:31] sivang: I like pretty much anything that is -- or once was -- an olive. [01:31] oh okay ... the gnome admin utility doesn't use adduser ... it uses useradd >_< [01:31] at least the bug tracker shows added support for adduser so hopefully in next release [01:31] so mouldy olive decomposed for about a month would be goodd? [01:31] good [01:31] lol [01:32] Kamion: That level of "humour" really doesn't meat your ususal strict standards. Clearly you need to sleep. NOW. [01:32] meat? [01:32] Dear god. [01:32] MEET. [01:32] oh, score, cron.germinate is running while apt-ftparchive is doing [01:32] er, running. yeah. [01:32] I wonder how well that'll work. === sivang is worried about Kamion and infinity [01:32] Kamion: I don't think we need to burden infinity with the requirement to running those [01:33] infinity: I'll see what I can drag with me without being asked funny questions at the airport :) [01:33] Germinate will settle again by the time we've done TWO MORE PUBLISHER RUNS anyway. [01:33] infinity: but a bottle of oil is the least [01:33] yeah, it's not like germinate is terribly important atm [01:33] But I don't see why it should be upset in he least, since apt-ftparchive is operating on a copy of dists, not the real thing. [01:33] just a curiosity [01:34] Unless germinate has suddenly started wandering around for random Packages files in dists.new, it shouldn't make a lick of difference. :) [01:34] (And boy, that would be odd) [01:36] I think I'm starting to develop a photographic memory of publisher logs to the point where I could type them verbatim if I had to. [01:36] This isn't right. [01:38] Kamion: actually, there is sort of what you described as a special olives make, and people like it. In free translation from hebrew that would read as "Screwed Olives" but they either come very ripe or the opposite [01:39] for some reason there are some people that like to consume their olives that way. [01:39] just goes to show, people will eat anything if it's expensive enough [01:40] And off goes the queuebuilder. [01:40] heh, well, if you go to the street markets this is reatively cheap. but not when it comes canned. [01:41] Kamion: ubiquity includes private copies of d-i components for now, right? [01:41] Kamion: (ie: I can kick off livefs builds as soon as ubiquity 1.0.12 binaries are published?) [01:41] Err, wait, yes, that's obviously true. [01:42] Kamion: Ignore me. Long day. Reasoning out loud when I clearly shouldn't be. [01:42] yeah, it does, and you can === ealden [n=ealden@203.177.228.33] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:43] Scott and I are heading back to the hotel, hopefully there's at least a minibar [01:43] :) [01:43] Enjoy. [01:43] will be online from there at some point [01:47] heading to bed as well (no minibar) [01:48] are you like in until-release sprint in the K&K ? [01:50] infinity: thanks [01:55] thanks for the help gus === Riddell_ [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sivang [i=sivan@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _mike_ [n=mike@220.157.65.127] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:28] infinity: still here? [02:28] bgertzfield: Yup. [02:29] infinity: anything more you need for the vmware-player packages? [02:29] bgertzfield: Did you get my last messages to you? [02:29] the last I saw, you asked me if I spoke Japanese [02:30] 16:56 < infinity> bgertzfield: The reason Mithrandir's hacking of debian/control worked, BTW, is [02:30] ahh, I see it now [02:30] cause your KVERS/MAIN_PACKAGE_BUILD stuff doesn't work. [02:30] 16:57 < infinity> bgertzfield: KVERS isn't set at all, so ifeq ($(KVERS), unknown) doesn't trip. [02:30] read it through lastlog [02:30] 16:58 < infinity> bgertzfield: I suspect you just want "ifeq ($(KVERS),)" [02:30] 17:01 < infinity> bgertzfield: If you can confirm that, the rest looks good, and I can just fix [02:30] that and upload. [02:30] infinity: interesting. in my testing it was actually set to "unknown" due to the include of /usr/share/modass/include/generic.make [02:31] and I believe that Mithrandir's hack worked because the build-deps were checked before debian/rules clean was called [02:31] modass sets it to "unknown" if not building from m-a [02:31] sivang: yes [02:31] from generic.make: [02:31] ifeq ($(KVERS),) [02:31] KVERS = unknown [02:31] endif [02:31] Ahh, see, we do source-only uploads in Ubuntu, so build-deps don't have to be there to do the initial clean. [02:31] infinity: hello. how's it going? [02:31] infinity: interesting. [02:31] Which means that I don't have /usr/share/modass/include/generic.make installed when I'm doing it. [02:31] infinity: ! [02:32] Kamion: Publishing binaries, and the d-i source. [02:32] ok [02:32] infinity: we should handle it with an or then [02:32] because it will either be 'unknown' or empty [02:32] bgertzfield: Yup. ORify it. [02:32] infinity: want me to do it? or do you want to fix it? [02:32] bgertzfield: Go ahead. I'm too tired to wrangle sane make. [02:32] OK. [02:33] do I need to bump the version again? [02:33] Nah, just add to the changelog for the same version. I'm smart enough to download it again. [02:34] Kamion: livefs builds should commence in about 10 mins, give or take. [02:34] Kamion: We can start on -alternate- rebuilds in about 40. [02:34] Kamion: I'm happy to drive the whole show if you'd rather sleep. === poningru [n=poningru@ip24-250-215-175.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:34] infinity: will dep-wait packages be retried automatically at this point? (mopac7 upload unblocked libghemical and then ghemical) [02:34] infinity: ok. doing now. thanks for staying up. :) [02:35] azeem: They will be if I let the queue-builder run free again. [02:35] infinity: don't feel you need to stay up just for this; I'm happy to drive stuff [02:35] ok [02:35] infinity: if you tell me how to drive the buildd-sequencer [02:36] Kamion: Like I told Scott, my goal is to be back on Melbourne time by the time we release, so staying up now is helping me get off UTC and right my schedule. :) [02:36] infinity: last question, ghemical seems to be marked as failed rather than dep-wait is there a way to change this? [02:36] azeem: Yeah, I can smack it. [02:36] thanks a lot [02:37] infinity: really? er, ok ... [02:37] Kamion: Seriously. Don't worry about it. I'll get a good rest (in my own timezone!) after this is all over and done with. [02:37] Kamion: Sleeping at 10:30am doesn't really appeal to me anyway. [02:38] Kamion: You, on the other hand, may find another showstopper in the installer tomorrow, so you should go rest your brain. [02:38] I'd better freaking not [02:38] or the London office will be finding out whether blood can be cleaned out of its carpet easily [02:38] Yours, or some random coworker's? [02:39] afternoon [02:39] Yes. [02:40] infinity: what are you on now - 26 hours? [02:40] actually no, you had breakfast at the same time I did [02:40] infinity: you'd better be asleep by the time I get up again, though. [02:41] Kamion: Yes, mom. [02:41] :-) === _nicolas_ [n=nick@c-24-3-157-222.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:42] infinity: Testing a build with m-a not installed now. [02:42] ok, -> bed; thanks again === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:42] infinity: OK, it's working correctly now. [02:42] infinity: thanks for noticing that! [02:43] bgertzfield: Don't forget to test with as well, to make sure your magic still works. :)_ [02:43] I couldn't figure out the $(or) syntax, so I just used an ifeq (...) else ifndef [02:43] bgertzfield: I'm not uploading this twice. :P [02:43] infinity: Yes, I tested with first. :) === KaiL_ [n=KaiL@p548F4CFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rajasun [n=maximusp@bb220-255-205-188.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:57] infinity: uploading fixed package to foxden.org apt repository now [02:57] \o/ [03:04] infinity: upload complete. grab away === ispiked [n=ispiked@unaffiliated/ispiked] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [03:08] infinity: confirmed vmware-player-kernel-source still works great [03:08] so I think we're set [03:09] We better be. This is the last upload you get. :P [03:09] *gasps* [03:09] I think this'll meet the bar. :) I appreciate all the constructive criticism and help [03:09] After this, I stop being able to think clearly, and I just drive the archive machinery like an ox on a cart. [03:09] Aye. [03:09] And, hopefully, tomorrow we release. :) [03:10] Oyes. [03:10] (An event I may, ironically, sleep through) [03:10] If I end up being up for the next 5 or 6 hours fixing new CD/DVD builds for everyone. === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-85-40.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:14] infinity: I'm going to stick around and see if you give these the ghumbs-up [03:14] err. thumbs-up. what the heck is a ghumb? [03:14] infinity: but I have to go after that, will be back in a few hours [03:14] It's what you've been typing with? :) [03:15] bgertzfield: I'll have them downloaded and checked out in ~10 mins. After that, you should be free to go. :) [03:15] infinity: fantastic. you are incredible. :) [03:15] (Also, you should get more bandwidth) [03:15] ubuntu is getting hugely popular at VMware, by the way [03:15] especially with the browser appliance [03:15] infinity: I'm trying to get 'official' VMware space for us to interact with the opensource crowd [03:16] Oh, question for you... === bronson [n=bronson@pool-72-70-92-114.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:16] The kernel modules for vmnet and friends. Are those identical between vmware-{player,workstation,server}? [03:16] sure [03:17] Cause if they are, the "vmware-player-kernel..." package name seems a bit shortsighted. :) [03:17] No, they are not. We will be changing the package name and adding Conflicts: for the other products. [03:17] (Seeing as how you may later distribute the other products as debs as well) [03:17] Ahh, these are stripped down in some way, then? [03:17] They're unfortunately both not compatible, and named the same. *grumble* [03:17] Shame. [03:17] They're not stripped down, but the internal APIs change; the various products come from different source control branches [03:18] Would be nice to get that unified at some point, but I guess I don't need to tell you your job. :) [03:18] It's a 'nice to have'. :) [03:18] Well, it becomes more useful when you look at the packaging angle. [03:19] Which, you can probably guess, I've spent more time on the past week than anyone has in years. ;) === infinity grins. [03:20] bgertzfield: I'm not going to bother changing your changelog, but the problem isn't the buildds. debian/control needs to be correct on UPLOAD, not on BUILD (well, parts of it, anyway, the parts that the .dsc are made from) === stratus [n=stratus@200.217.83.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:21] ahh, I see [03:21] bgertzfield: So, it's on my machine when I do a source-only build for upload that debian/control doesn't get properly generated. [03:21] Got it. [03:21] so when you do a source-only build on any machine that doesn't have m-a installed, it was broken. [03:21] bgertzfield: You'll also note that modules-assistant isn't a build-dep ANYWAY, completely invalidating the argument. :) [03:22] ... [03:22] That's me with a big anime-style sweat drop on the side of my face. :) [03:22] (No need for it to be a build-dep obviously, since it's only needed to do the custom compile stuff, not the archive package build) [03:23] right. the debian/rules crap for m-a really ought to be in a completely separate file. [03:23] Probably, but I can see the appeal of trying to unify it. === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:23] Yeah. But it's just so kludgey. [03:24] Anyhow. This all looks good to me. I'll upload this stuff for you and shove it through the queues with a pitchfork. [03:24] Rock on. [03:24] Thanks for putting up with my pedantry. :) [03:24] Thanks so much. [03:24] Never a problem, I'm always glad to do things right. === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:24] OK, then, I'm out of here. [03:24] Get some rest. :) [03:24] Ciao. [03:24] In the words of Weird Al, "I'll be mellow when I'm dead." [03:25] heh [03:25] Hey folks === hypatia [n=mary@218-214-66-203.people.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:31] bgertzfield: Ergh. Come back. [03:33] bgertzfield: Nevermind. Don't come back. :) [03:34] bgertzfield: naughty you for sending me a different orig for the kernel modules than the one we'd previous used, though. === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.7.88.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bmonty_away is now known as bmonty === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shackan [n=shackan@85-18-14-13.fastres.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-85-40.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj [n=robertj@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === archis_ [n=archis@unaffiliated/archis] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-85-40.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [04:38] azeem: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/179738 [04:42] infinity: awesome === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:44] Heh === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.146.67] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dudus [n=dudus@200.245.31.150] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.48.149] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Quintok [n=quintok@ppp37-161.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-devel === darius_ [i=darius@integrity.bourg.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === bmonty is now known as bmonty_away === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@unaffiliated/imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:04] does anyone know why sabdafl is interested in TeamSpeex ;) === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:06] robertj, no idea, but it does use the free speex protocol === hollowlife1987 [n=hollow@12-214-79-58.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:07] The protocol is fairly standard too [05:09] But more curiously why would he be interested in a closed source client when there is an opensource gaim plugin (albeit probably out of date already...) [05:10] robertj, where did you hear/read/come upon this? [05:11] he posted in the TeamSpeex forums [05:12] got a linky? === hunger [n=tobias@p54A62C25.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:12] http://www.savvy.nl/blog/forum/viewforum.php?id=5 === Treenaks_ [n=martijn@thuis.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=nico@p508D959F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:14] robertj, oh very odd. Maybe the funding has strings attached? [05:14] maybe this gaim plugin doesn't actually do voice, onl ytext [05:14]