[01:19] <crimsun> LaserJock: apparently your upload made it in :-)
[01:21] <LaserJock> just saw that, \o/
[01:22] <ogra> lol
[01:22] <ogra> the only universe package that made it in after the freeze is a fix for ia64 ?
[01:22] <ogra> thats funny :)
[01:23] <ogra> congrats LaserJock :)
[01:25] <azeem> yay!
[01:36] <sivang> LOL
[01:41] <LaserJock> it was all for azeem
[01:50] <azeem> #   dapper ia64   Successfully built
[01:50] <azeem> hah!
[01:52] <LaserJock> \o/
[01:56] <LaserJock> I gotta keep azeem happy so he will sponsor my Debian uploads ;-)
[01:56] <azeem> heh :)
[02:28] <ajmitch> afternoon
[02:28] <crimsun> 'lo
[02:29] <ajmitch> I guess I lost out on getting f-spot updated before release :)
[02:33] <crimsun> with all dozen patches? :-)
[02:34] <ajmitch> *cough*
[02:34] <ajmitch> only 23 !
[02:34] <ajmitch> it's like a new upstream version
[02:35] <ajmitch> which is why I'd be wary of uploading even if uploads weren't queued
[02:36] <crimsun> quick, upload while kamion's offering! :-)
[02:36] <ajmitch> hah
[02:36] <ajmitch> I don't have the patches yet
[02:39] <ajmitch> I can't really test cd images when rsync goes at 10K/sec
[02:39] <ajmitch> quite sad really
[03:25] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:29] <Kyral> hey God :P
[03:30] <bddebian> pfft
[03:33] <crimsun> just to let you know, bddebian, I plan to funnel all main uploads through you :p
[03:34] <ajmitch> might as well
[03:35] <bddebian> Why, I won't get in anyway
[03:35] <crimsun> your lp->packages begs to differ :p
[03:36] <bddebian> ??
[03:36] <crimsun> (the packages link on your LP page)
[03:37] <crimsun> anyhow, thanks for everyone's work on dapper :-)
[03:37] <ajmitch> I suppose I'll have to try & do some work on edgy
[03:37] <crimsun> well, I guess we all kinda pale in comparison on bddebian :p
[03:37] <crimsun> s/on/to/
[03:37] <bddebian> ajmitch: Bah :-)
[03:38] <bddebian> crimsun: What Packages link??
[03:39] <crimsun> this one-> https://launchpad.net/people/bddebian/+packages
[03:39] <ajmitch> crimsun: he'll get in if doko doesn't lynch him first
[03:39] <bddebian> What for the vnc4 thing?
[03:40] <crimsun> no, the list of packages you've worked on
[03:40] <bmonty> damn, I wish I knew about that packaging link earlier
[03:41] <bddebian> crimsun: No, I meant ajmitch
[03:41] <bddebian> s comment about doko
[03:41] <ajmitch> bddebian: yes, for that
[03:42] <bddebian> Later ajmitch
[03:42] <crimsun> later ajmitch
[03:42] <crimsun> guess it's time to resume poring through these security issues
[03:43] <bmonty> crimsun: is there a list somewhere?
[03:44] <crimsun> bmonty: debian's DSAs
[04:18] <LaserJock> hi guys
[04:19] <bmonty> hi LaserJock
[04:26] <LaserJock> I can't believe Dapper is almost out the door
[04:27] <bddebian> :)
[04:27] <Lathiat> yeh odd isnt it :)
[04:28] <Lathiat> its like just yesterday every dist-upgrade was a round of russian roulette..
[04:28] <LaserJock> this is the first release I've seen from start to finish
[04:29] <Lathiat> oh? cool
[04:29] <bddebian> Lathiat: :-)
[04:29] <Kyral> Good luck guys
[04:30] <Lathiat> i discovered we had some.. and its quite good but much in need of love :)
[04:30] <Kyral> I won't be around
[04:30] <LaserJock> yeah, that is cool
[04:30] <Kyral> sorry guys
[04:30] <Lathiat> i had no idea we had what we do tho, it looks pretty cool
[04:30] <Lathiat> i dont usually read docs i just muddle my way thrtough things.. :)
[04:31] <Lathiat> Kyral: ah how come?
[04:31] <LaserJock> Kyral: you're welcome to hang out here
[04:31] <Kyral> I can't settle down on one distro yet
[04:31] <Kyral> I want to learn all about how every distro does things
[04:31] <Lathiat> You don't have to, ubuntu has like 4 sub-distros to settle on ;)
[04:31] <Kyral> No its one distro
[04:31] <LaserJock> bddebian: whatever
[04:31] <Kyral> Just different default configs
[04:32] <Lathiat> and packages
[04:32] <Lathiat> :)
[04:32] <Kyral> No
[04:32] <Kyral> they all pull from the same repos
[04:32] <bddebian> LaserJock: Bah :-)
[04:32] <Lathiat> "I'm sorry sir, but I'm afraid you'll have to turn in your gpg key"
[04:32] <Lathiat> Kyral: *default* packages ;)
[04:32] <Kyral> which == configs
[04:32] <Kyral> ANYWAY
[04:32] <Lathiat> . arguably ;p
[04:32] <Lathiat> dont worry
[04:32] <Kyral> Like I was saying, every distro is a representation of what someone thinks is the perfect distro
[04:32] <Lathiat> you can trip to any other distro and besides probably debian you'll come crawling back ;)
[04:33] <Lathiat> thats true
[04:33] <LaserJock> Lathiat: you should help with the Packaging Guide for edgy ;-)
[04:33] <Lathiat> LaserJock: info?
[04:33] <Lathiat> LaserJock: i take it its a newbies guide?
[04:33] <LaserJock> it's on doc.ubuntu.com
[04:33] <Kyral> Lathiat: Actually I like Arch more :P
[04:33] <Lathiat> Kyral: bad kyral, bad bad kyral *g*
[04:34] <LaserJock> Lathiat: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html in particular
[04:34] <Lathiat> ah yep, i see
[04:34] <LaserJock> Lathiat: it's also in ubuntu-docs package
[04:34] <Lathiat> ah, looks good
[04:34] <LaserJock> it still needs a lot of work
[04:34] <Kyral> I figure if I try out everyone's version of perfection then I will find out my own in end
[04:35] <Lathiat> Kyral: Thats the part where you start your own distro :)
[04:35] <Kyral> bingo :P
[04:35] <tseng> hi Lathiat
[04:35] <Lathiat> $)(*!@$ if k3b plays that stupid trumpet sound once more im going to switch back to gnome
[04:35] <Kyral> How'd you know that was my goal? :P
[04:35] <Lathiat> howdy tseng :)
[04:35] <LaserJock> Kyral: the one thing I would say is that Ubuntu isn't so much one persons's version of a perfect distro
[04:35] <LaserJock> as the communities version
[04:36] <Kyral> Same could be said of Arch
[04:36] <LaserJock> *community's
[04:36] <Lathiat> i should try out evolution in an environment where you use pop and stuff, i've only ever used it with imap (and found it relatively useless at that)
[04:36] <Kyral> Judd started it, but the community came around it with the AUR
[04:37] <Kyral> Actually there is an Italian distro that combines Ubuntu with Pacman
[04:37] <bddebian> Kyral: I'm still waiting on Hurd!!! ;-)
[04:37] <Kyral> hai hai
[04:37] <Kyral> lemme get it installed
[04:38] <Kyral> The HURD, BSD, and GNU/Solaris are also part of this Open Source field trip :P
[04:38] <LaserJock> good luck :-)
[04:38] <Kyral> I already have BSD going :P
[04:39] <Kyral> But yah, good job guys
[04:39] <Kyral> I prolly won't become MOTU, but I'll still be around in #ubuntu
[04:44] <bddebian> Good man :-)
[05:03] <LaserJock> woot! I got my passport today!
[05:03] <bddebian> Nice
[05:03] <bddebian> Did you do the two week rush job? :-)
[05:03] <LaserJock> I was getting worried
[05:03] <LaserJock> yes
[05:04] <bddebian> Yeah, I did that when I went to FOSDEM last year
[05:04] <bddebian> Heya imbrandon
[05:04] <LaserJock> but I didn't see it on the online status so I didn't even know it got to the state department
[05:05] <bddebian> Eeks
[06:05] <bddebian> GNight folks
[09:30] <Hobbsee> hi Mithrandir
[10:10] <dholbach> good morning
[10:41] <sivang> morning all
[10:42] <highvoltage> morning sivang
[10:44] <phanatic> hi people
[11:48] <philbull> hi guys, i'm having a problem with a patch
[11:48] <philbull> see bug 47428
[11:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 47428 in kmatplot "no .desktop file" [Minor,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/47428
[11:48] <philbull> i don't know what file to edit to install the icon/.desktop file
[11:50] <crimsun> which issue are you referring to, 1) the binary part, or 2) the actually moving of the icon/desktop file/s?
[11:50] <crimsun> actual^
[11:51] <philbull> well, i now have the icon and .desktop under the debian/ dir
[11:51] <philbull> but how can I install them to the correct locations?
[11:51] <crimsun> philbull: you need to install them in debian/rules
[11:52] <philbull> is it normal for that file to be a perl script, though?
[11:52] <philbull> i don't know any perl...
[11:52] <crimsun> normal? eh, not really, but I suppose it can be anything as long as it does the job
[11:53] <philbull> there are 2 files in debian/
[11:54] <philbull> debianrules (which seems to do something) and rules, which is really short and doesn't have any of the 'normal' dh_ stuff in it
[11:54] <philbull> (I'm totally new to this BTW)
[11:54] <crimsun> ugh, I keep trying to use an external mouse that isn't connected. Too tired.
[11:55] <philbull> he
[11:55] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:55] <Hobbsee> you can sleep soon crimsun :P
[11:56] <Hobbsee> philbull: that's cdbs, btw....
[11:56] <philbull> ?
[11:56] <Hobbsee> you *should* just be able to include kde.mk, i *think*
[11:56] <Hobbsee> i'm not positive on that though, give me a min
[11:56] <Hobbsee> philbull: that short rules file - it's made by cdbs.
[11:56] <philbull> aha
[11:58] <crimsun> hmm, but grep -nHr 'dh_desktop' *  doesn't reveal anything useful for kde
[11:58] <Hobbsee> philbull: you'd have to check other sources, to see if/how they copied icons, but maybe this will help https://perso.duckcorp.org/duck/cdbs-doc/cdbs-doc.xhtml#id2503191
[11:58] <crimsun> in /usr/share/cdbs/1, that is
[11:59] <Hobbsee> crimsun: presumably that's done in debhelper.mk
[12:00] <crimsun> that's under rules/, which is searched via -r
[12:01] <crimsun> yeah, it looks like you'll still have to do this manually.
[12:01] <Hobbsee> drat - but kde.mk should be in there for a kde program..
[12:01] <Hobbsee> i think
[12:02] <crimsun> let's look at kdenetwork.
[12:03] <crimsun> Hobbsee: you were on the right track. You'd need to include debian-qt-kde.mk
[12:04] <Hobbsee> crimsun: hmmm...havent seen that one used a lot, but okay
[12:04] <crimsun> those aren't distributed as part of cdbs
[12:04] <crimsun> they're part of the diff.gz
[12:04] <Hobbsee> ah...
[12:04] <Hobbsee> ah okya
[12:04] <Hobbsee> well, found out how kpowersave puts in it's icon...
[12:05] <philbull> i'm still lost :(
[12:05] <crimsun> darned mouse :/
[12:06] <Hobbsee> sarah@sarah:~/Desktop/kpowersave-0.6.0/debian$ cat install
[12:06] <Hobbsee> debian/kpowersave.xpm usr/share/pixmaps
[12:06] <Hobbsee> is there, if that helps...
[12:06] <imbrandon>  omg people make me so mad sometimes ........ i need a ummm cigarette
[12:08] <crimsun> philbull: ok, looking at the source package for kmatplot, you should ignore debian/debianrules and debian/rules.old
[12:08] <crimsun> philbull: neither of those are even used
[12:08] <Hobbsee> (and why are they in there in teh first place???)
[12:09] <crimsun> historical $baggage  is my guess
[12:09] <philbull> ok
[12:10] <crimsun> philbull: probably the easiest way to get the xpm into the correct place is to use an .install file like Hobbsee alluded to
[12:11] <Hobbsee> crimsun: and then the menu file mentions the icon file.  but i cant seem to find where the menu file gets installed - maybe that's inside debhelper.mk?
[12:11] <crimsun> philbull: now the binary issue is going to cause some issues unless you uuencode, so I think you'll want to use another format
[12:11] <philbull> i'll use the .xpm if that'll work?
[12:12] <crimsun> philbull: that's the binary issue I'm referring to.
[12:12] <crimsun> philbull: I'm pretty certain you'll want to use the method that raphink blogged about
[12:12] <crimsun> Hobbsee: but that's in debian/debianrules, which is obsolete and not used at all currently
[12:13] <Hobbsee> crimsun: as in, the menu file is mentioned there?  i didnt check that, knowing that it wasnt used.
[12:15] <philbull> crimsun: do you have a link to that blog?
[12:15] <crimsun> Hobbsee: the current menu file doesn't have an icon reference
[12:15] <crimsun> philbull: drilling down via google...
[12:16] <Hobbsee> crimsun: what's this then?  http://pastebin.com/748742
[12:18] <crimsun> Hobbsee: you're looking at kpowersave; I'm looking at kmatplot :-)
[12:18] <Hobbsee> crimsun: that is true - i was looking at an example file...
[12:18] <crimsun> (as in what philbull's working on)
[12:19] <crimsun> aha
[12:19] <Hobbsee> well, yeah...okay then.  add it to the menu file, perhaps?
[12:19] <Hobbsee> dinner
[12:19] <crimsun> it always helps if I tweak the search terms: http://www.raphink.info/adding-icons-to-debian-packages
[12:19] <Hobbsee|away> hehe
[12:20] <crimsun> philbull: see above url
[12:23] <philbull> thanks
[12:25] <dholbach> hey crimsun, philbull, Hobbsee|away
[12:26] <philbull> hmmm, that seems to need a 'nice' debian/rules
[12:26] <philbull> hey dholbach
[12:27] <philbull> is there anywhere in the package i could just call a custom script from?
[12:30] <dholbach> script for doing what?
[12:30] <crimsun> hi dholbach, thanks for pushing the great artwork :-)
[12:30] <crimsun> philbull: you can use cdbs hooks
[12:31] <dholbach> crimsun: thanks a lot - it was mostly the designer's work - but still it meant quite some work for me, so thanks for the praise. :-)
[12:31] <crimsun> :-)
[12:36] <crimsun> philbull: I have to go give a presentation soon, but look at the "post-install actions" portion of the "Basic custom build rules" section at https://perso.duckcorp.org/duck/cdbs-doc/cdbs-doc.xhtml
[12:38] <sivang> crimsun: what is the preentation going to be about? :)
[12:39] <philbull> crimsun: thanks, i'll take a look this afternoon
[12:39] <philbull> thanks for all your help guys, hopefully i can get it to work...
[12:39] <crimsun> sivang: boring stuff like "how $sponsor's money's is justified being spent on our projects" :-)
[12:40] <crimsun> philbull: np
[12:40] <philbull> :D
[12:40] <sivang> crimsun: hehe
[12:40] <sivang> crimsun: good luck, may I ask what is the project? :)
[12:41] <crimsun> sivang: classifier systems for autonomous agents
[12:41] <sivang> oh crap, it seems I can't write to swirl:/sys/block/sda/queue/iosched , they are all readonly even for root
[12:41] <crimsun> (representing state changes, etc.)
[12:41] <sivang> crimsun: oh nice, doing an AI phd?
[12:41] <sivang> or masters?
[12:42] <crimsun> sivang: no, totally outside my realm, I'm just helping with research this summer and got dragged in :-)
[12:42] <sivang> well, cool! who knows, you might be drawn into it.
[12:43] <sivang> I know few people who did only one project and became Ph.D's in it :p
[12:43] <crimsun> :-)
[12:43] <sivang> one of them is my gf's sis's husband
[12:43] <sivang> he's into preference elicitation,
[12:43] <sivang> and some other stuff related to automatic learning
[12:43] <crimsun> ah cool
[12:43] <sivang> he teches in www.technion.ac.il
[12:44] <crimsun> yeah, adaptation/learning is part of this project, too, but I'm not sure if I'll get to it
[12:44] <sivang> anyway, do you have any idea why I can't write to those nodes at /sys/block/sda/queue/iosched/antic_expire ?
[12:45] <sivang> the doc says if you set it to zero, it will act like the deadline schd
[12:48] <crimsun> I don't think those are exposed via /proc, so you have to change them before compiling
[12:49] <sivang> ah
[12:49] <sivang> k, thanks, will just switch to the deadline policy then
[12:49] <crimsun> I haven't tested cfq or deadline, but they're worth checking
[12:50] <sivang> what does cfq stands for?
[12:51] <crimsun> complete fair queueing iirc
[12:51] <sivang> okay, thanks for all the info Daniel
[12:51] <sivang> good luck on the presentation
[12:52] <crimsun> thanks, good luck w/ the tuning :-)
[12:52] <sivang> heh, thanks, I hope I will put this machine to behave like it cost :p
[12:52] <sivang> becuase at the moment it acts like in old PIII-800Mhz with 5400RPM hd :p
[01:01] <Hobbsee|away> hi dholbach
[01:10] <cyberix> Will Dapper be released on time tomorrow?
[01:10] <cyberix> And what time ;-)
[01:15] <sladen> cyberix: "tomorrow"
[01:15] <Mithrandir> it's not useful to ask "are we there yet", so please don't.
[01:17] <Toadstool> hi all
[01:23] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: are we there yet?  *ducks* :P
[01:23] <Mithrandir> you're poor at trolling today.
[01:23] <Mithrandir> :-P
[01:24] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: you mean i'm good on other days?
[01:24] <Mithrandir> better than this attempt, at least, yes.
[01:24] <Mithrandir> some days good, other days a bit less good
[01:25] <Hobbsee> hmmm...well seeing as i try not to troll at all...
[01:25] <Mithrandir> never?
[01:26] <Hobbsee> most of the time...
[01:26] <Hobbsee> besides, i thought the aim was to stop the trolls, not be one :P
[01:27] <sivang> oh well, deadline io scheduler is a bit better, but did not help much multitasking io tasks
[01:27] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: I guess.  Just tired and really wanting to get this dragon out the door now.
[01:29] <Viper12> Well, been channel hopping.  if you all are truly the masters then tell me please  has the latest go round of updates borked firestarter?  Because after the latest round it will no longer start on my system. (clean dapper, no changes to repositories other than multi/universe).
[01:38] <Viper12> Well that shut the crowd up. ;)
[01:38] <Hobbsee> Viper12: heh - most people arent around here anyway
[01:38] <Hobbsee> they're busy doing release-stuff...
[01:39] <Viper12> Oh I know that.  This issue that just popped up does seem a bit more important than 'does yer comp iz work? or hows alsa-oss today", but noone is responding. lol  murphy's law.
[01:42] <Hobbsee> Viper12: i dont use firestarter, sorry...
[01:46] <zul> heylo
[01:46] <Hobbsee> hi zul
[01:46] <zul> hey Hobbsee how is it going?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> zul: alright, know anything about firestarter?
[01:47] <zul> isnt that the gnome firewall?
[01:47] <zul> other than that...no
[01:48] <Hobbsee> hehe.  yes
[01:48] <Viper12> yes
[01:48] <Viper12> and oh har har. :D
[01:48] <zul> i only did a patch for it thats about it
[01:48] <Viper12> well, as of today's updates it barfs when starting with a gTK-warning.
[01:48] <Hobbsee> i see
[01:49] <Viper12> acutally an Xlib "refused by server" and THEN a the gtk  cannot open display error.
[01:50] <bmonty_away> Viper12: try starting it on the command line with gksudo
[01:51] <Viper12> already did. and rebooted twice just to verify the issue wasn't something goofy.  It comes up with the same error.  No changes to this system since yesterday OTHER than the last round of updates a little while ago.
[01:51] <zul> works fine here
[01:51] <Viper12> It worked fine here as well, until I decided to reboot the system.
[01:53] <Viper12> going to reinstall the application.  Just very odd that on a 'clean' system, this particular application would go 'south'.
[01:56] <Viper12> dang odd.  It indicates that is stopped the firewall....reinstalled and then started it.  No icon, or any indication that its running via ps or system monitor.  scratching head.  trying to start the app is giving the same xlib and gtk error now..again. shrugs.
[01:57] <Viper12> grepping shows no process running either.
[02:27] <Viper12> Well, I submitted a bug report, so ve shall see.
[02:27] <zul> Viper12: i cant reproduce it
[02:28] <Viper12> I can.  snicker.
[02:28] <Viper12> just submitted #47662
[02:29] <Viper12> Really caught me off guard as the last couple weeks of updates (other than that night where the restricted drivers were 'late') have been rock solid for this system.
[02:47] <Viper12> okay, ran strace...now, what am I looking for in that spaghetti ?
[02:50] <Viper12> oh bugger. lol. wrong channel.  mah bad.
[03:10] <coz_> hey all
[03:19] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:20] <LaserJock> hi bddebian
[03:20] <Hobbsee> hi bddebian
[03:22] <bddebian> Hiya Hobbsee and again LaserJock ;-)
[03:26] <siretart> fabo: hrhr. nice try... ;)
[03:26] <fabo> :p
[03:27] <siretart> fabo: boy, the archive has already been closed...
[03:30] <LaserJock> hi siretart
[03:30] <Hobbsee> hi siretart
[03:30] <siretart> huhu LaserJock, hi Hobbsee
[03:31] <siretart> fabo: yes, dapper is closed
[03:32] <bddebian> Doh :-(
[03:32] <bddebian> Heya siretart
[03:32] <fabo> k
[03:32] <siretart> huhu bddebian
[03:40] <siretart> fabo: please ask me in channel
[03:40] <fabo> k
[03:40] <fabo> so about my wishlist ?
[03:41] <siretart> fabo: I don't remember, sry
[03:41] <fabo> is it possible to have package name on bugs subjects e.g. :
[03:41] <fabo> [Motu-reviewers]  [Bug XXXXX]  [PackageName] 
[03:41] <fabo> like for COMMENT and UPDATE :
[03:41] <fabo> [Motu-reviewers]  [REVU] [COMMENT]  for PackageName
[03:41] <siretart> hm. good idea. could you please write sistpoty a mail about it?
[03:41] <fabo> ok
[03:42] <Mithrandir> ew, terrible idea.  Filter by the headers set by launchpad instead.
[03:42] <LaserJock> Mithrandir: I find it often very difficult to find what package a bug is reported against in the Malone emails
[03:43] <LaserJock> putting something in the title would be nice, even putting it in the body would help
[03:43] <Mithrandir> LaserJock: filter each package into its own folder, then.
[03:43] <Mithrandir> or munge the subjects locally
[03:43] <LaserJock> ?
[03:43] <siretart> Mithrandir: those mails are generated by revu, not by launchpad
[03:44] <Mithrandir> hmkay
[03:45] <Mithrandir> order by, I presume?
[03:45] <LaserJock> I just want to be able to know what package an email is talking about
[03:45] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: that's the one.
[03:45] <LaserJock> Hobbsee: yeah, that would be handy
[03:46] <highvoltage> a RecentChanges for Launchpad would be nice.
[03:47] <siretart> Hobbsee: you are completly right to poke me about revu. unfortunately,  I didn't find time to continue coding on revu2 :( - its my fault
[03:47] <Hobbsee> siretart: not revu.  just malone :)
[06:24] <Spec> so the release is at 12:00, right? ;)
[06:25] <LaserJock> it's done when it's done
[06:27] <ogra> Spec, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Current if all or nearly all fields of all the tables have at least one "PASS" in them
[06:27] <ogra> feel free to test yourself and add some PASS notes ;)
[06:29] <Spec> you mean ... work?
[06:29] <Spec> :p
[06:31] <vdepizzol> hi everybody
[06:31] <vdepizzol> there are any style guideline for tangerine icons theme?
[06:32] <LaserJock> are those tango? or is that different?
[06:32] <ogra> vdepizzol, probably a question for #ubuntu-art :)
[06:32] <vdepizzol> thanks, ogra :)
[06:32] <ogra> or might be -artwork, i wanst in there for quite some time
[06:32] <ogra> *wasnt
[06:33] <Spec> most of the stuff for x86 is PASSed it seems
[06:34] <ogra> Spec, only PASS counts (not the ones with the build number)
[06:34] <Spec> only need one per box, right?
[06:35] <ogra> yep
[06:35] <ogra> at least
[06:35] <ogra> the more the better
[06:35] <Spec> I'll test "Alternate CD, expert", I can find method of testing that in testing/long?
[06:36] <Spec> maybe not
[08:46] <crimsun> bigcx2: what I said regarding edgy holds.
[08:46] <crimsun> it will be synced automatically since it's already in sid.
[08:47] <crimsun> pretty shiny (new) packaging, too, judging from packages.qa
[08:47] <bigcx2> ok, thats fine but i need in dapper so what would be the proper route of action to get it backported from edgy
[08:47] <crimsun> you will need to pbuild it yourself and test it to verify that it can be built in dapper using edgy source
[08:47] <crimsun> then you will need to request a backport
[08:48] <bigcx2> i have built it for dapper, we are using it internally on our mirrors
[08:48] <bigcx2> so the question still stands
[08:48] <bigcx2> how do i request a backport
[08:49] <crimsun> you'll need to ask the archive team to do that /once edgy opens/
[08:50] <bigcx2> alright...and the archive team consists of....
[08:50] <crimsun> the ubuntu-archive launchpad team
[08:51] <bigcx2> ok sounds good
[08:51] <bigcx2> thanks
[08:51] <crimsun> do not assign the bug to them
[08:51] <crimsun> I repeat, do /not/ assign it to them. Subscribe them.
[08:51] <crimsun> (they will punch you in the face)
[08:51] <bigcx2> haha
[08:51] <bigcx2> alright
[09:43] <tseng> bddebian: i am going on a business trip until friday
[09:43] <tseng> bddebian: no party
[09:44] <bddebian> d000d..
[09:46] <adolson> I am having a party for Dapper right now.. in my pants
[09:46] <bddebian> Uhm, TMI
[09:46] <bddebian> :-)
[09:46] <cbx33> yuk
[09:46] <cbx33> I side with bddebian on that one
[09:46] <adolson> come on, Ubuntu is hawt
[09:46] <crimsun> bddebian: deities can stomach anything.
[09:47] <cbx33> but not cack ya pants hawt
[09:48] <crimsun> ow.
[09:48] <cbx33> poke poke poke
[09:48] <adolson> I have a feeling some of the guys here tomorrow might be downloading Dapper and trying it.. I'm the only one here running Ubuntu at the moment, but they talk a lot about it and are counting down the hours kinda thing
[09:50] <LaserJock> adolson: yeah know, they could get the current daily and have it right now
[09:50] <crimsun> yeah, I've been holding off saying that in #ubuntu...
[09:51] <bddebian> heh
[09:51] <adolson> that's what I am running, LJ
[09:51] <crimsun> I'm running bddebianOS.
[09:51] <bddebian> OK, you've forced my hand
[09:52] <adolson> when I installed it, one of the guys questioned why I was installing a beta.. so I think it's a mentality here that you don't generally do that
[09:52] <LaserJock> bddebian: you can't your immortal
[09:52] <crimsun> "...and rose again on the third day"
[09:53] <bddebian> Ack, I have to go shovel dirt.. :'-(  Later folks
[09:53] <crimsun> cya