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| Mysta_ | I was unaware of any books, is there a website for this stuff? | 12:58 |
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| blanky | hey guys | 06:28 |
| blanky | what are the minimum system requirements for ubuntu server command line only | 06:28 |
| blanky | what would you guys think? | 06:28 |
| blanky | Nevermind I think it should work | 06:28 |
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| gpd | I'm sure this is painfully obvious - but could i add a vote for apt-get install lamp - in addition to the install option | 07:34 |
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| infinity | gpd: Too late now. Dapper's closed for changes. | 07:35 |
| infinity | gpd: I'll certainly consider some fun server metapackages in edgy, though. | 07:36 |
| gpd | infinity: sounds good :) | 07:36 |
| gpd | I'm loving my Dapper Linode - great work guys | 07:36 |
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| ubun | ola | 01:59 |
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| fholmes | hello | 04:08 |
| fholmes | I am having problems with Bind on my Breezy Badger server. | 04:08 |
| fholmes | I have bind chrooted in /var/lib/named and everything was working until yesterday. Something weird happened in that time frame. | 04:08 |
| fholmes | I have not made any configuration changes at all. In my db.domainname file only the last name is resolving, none of the other names in my list will resolve. | 04:09 |
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| brad` | anyone use apache1? | 05:34 |
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| |JulienH| | Hi all | 06:51 |
| lionelp | Hi JulienH | 06:52 |
| JulienH | Does anyone here suceeded installing Breezy on a RAID5 config ? | 07:03 |
| JulienH | During the installation , on the Alt+F4 console, it shows "Installing grub on '(hd0)'" whereas it should be on md0... isn't it ? | 07:04 |
| JulienH | Any idea ? | 07:11 |
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| JulienH | knock knock ? | 07:17 |
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| infinity | JulienH: grub can't read from software raid5. | 08:00 |
| infinity | JulienH: You'll want a small /boot partition for your kernel and grub. | 08:00 |
| Mysta_ | anyone around? | 08:36 |
| infinity | Mysta_: Vaguely. | 08:37 |
| Mysta_ | i have a quick quesion | 08:37 |
| Mysta_ | when i run the top command from the terminal how do I determine how much 'load' my 4 processors are taking on??? | 08:37 |
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| lionelp | Mysta_: you mean by processor ? | 08:48 |
| gpd | press 1 while in top for SMP toggle... | 08:53 |
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| enquest | does the new ubuntu server come with special managment software like postfix admin. An easy way to set up your mailserver, manage apache? | 09:41 |
| spike | enquest: no | 09:41 |
| enquest | in what is it then diffrent then redhat, fedora, debian ... ? | 09:41 |
| spike | of those you mentioned, only RHEL is close to ubuntu server in terms of support, certifications and the like | 09:42 |
| infinity | enquest: 5 years support, server-tuned kernel, and a different package selection on the CD. | 09:42 |
| kermitX_ | webmin isn't even in dapper -- | 09:42 |
| infinity | enquest: It's not any "simpler" than Debian, though Debian policy and package integration makes us both pretty simple, IMO. | 09:43 |
| enquest | Thats all??? Hmmm kinda expected a more easy aproce to setting up a mail server and so on... | 09:43 |
| infinity | kermitX_: That's because webmin is a festering pile of unmaintainable and unsupportable crap. | 09:43 |
| enquest | I'm know running Debian... But always find mail server difficult | 09:43 |
| infinity | kermitX_: And those are the NICE things I have to say about it. | 09:43 |
| enquest | Don't use webmin | 09:43 |
| enquest | webmin is overkill | 09:43 |
| enquest | but it would be nice to set up easily a mail server with mysql support without having to change a dozen files | 09:44 |
| kermitX_ | keep an eye on http://www.ispconfig.org/ for docs on getting ispconfig to work with dapper | 09:44 |
| kermitX_ | breezy's is http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10 | 09:45 |
| enquest | is this ispconfig inlucde in dapper? | 09:45 |
| spike | enquest: you can easily install stuff like GPLhost | 09:46 |
| spike | yeah, or ispconfig | 09:46 |
| kermitX_ | no. you get it from ^^^ (it's open source, bsd license) | 09:46 |
| enquest | What is this on the ubuntu.com website apt-get lamp for the serveR??? | 09:51 |
| enquest | or is it the same apt-get apache2 php5 mysql | 09:52 |
| infinity | apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server php5-mysql php5-mysqli | 09:55 |
| infinity | But, "yes", otherwise. | 09:55 |
| infinity | It's just guaranteed to always work right and not generate bug reports. :) | 09:55 |
| infinity | Which is a win for me, since I maintain all those packages. | 09:55 |
| infinity | And I dislike bug reports. | 09:55 |
| spike | :) | 09:56 |
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| kermitX_ | will there be a meta package (ubuntu-server) to expedite the install of the ubuntu-server packages when using a 'non-server' iso? | 09:57 |
| infinity | There isn't in dapper. | 09:58 |
| infinity | I'm considering some "make stuff easier" metapackages for edgy. | 09:58 |
| kermitX_ | and isn't perl part of the server iso? | 09:58 |
| infinity | For most "real" admins, this is all fluff anyway. They just want the bare-bones installation we ship, and then they want to hand-pick which packages they install. | 09:58 |
| infinity | But for home users and small-time admins, this stuff's fun. | 09:59 |
| infinity | kermitX_: Of course perl's on the ISO (and installed by default) | 09:59 |
| infinity | Perl's installed by default on all Ubuntu and Debian systems.. | 09:59 |
| infinity | Half the dpkg tools kinda depend on it. | 09:59 |
| spike | is ther a system besides LFS :) which doesnt install perl as default? | 09:59 |
| spike | throw an "actually" in there somewhere | 10:00 |
| infinity | Well, the default perl you get on a minimal Debian or Ubuntu system is REALLY lightweight. | 10:00 |
| kermitX_ | but isn't mod-perl2 separate? or is it unneeded? | 10:00 |
| infinity | But it's still there. | 10:00 |
| infinity | kermitX_: Oh, no, we don't install mod_perl2 by default. It's on the ISO, though. | 10:00 |
| infinity | kermitX_: As is mod_python. | 10:01 |
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| kermitX_ | can someone explain the dependancy on php5-cli & php5-common that php4-pear has? | 10:03 |
| infinity | kermitX_: php4-pear is an empty package that depends on php-pear. | 10:08 |
| infinity | php-pear is built from php5 source, so depends on php5-common for the changelog and docs (php5-common hasn't got much else in it) | 10:08 |
| infinity | As for the php5-cli thin, php-pear needs a command line interpreter to run, it depends on php5-cli | php4-cli, so if you have the latter installed, you don't need the former. | 10:09 |
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| infinity | And if I get one more bug report stating "Oh noes, php4-pear pulled in php5-common, now I have php5 installed!", I *will* hit someone. I mean it. | 10:09 |
| kermitX_ | i wasn't complaining.. was mainly wondering what was so important about php5-common. if it's just docs, it's docs. no biggie. | 10:15 |
| infinity | It's just so I only have to ship one changelog for all packages built from the php5 source instead of shipping 15 identical changelogs. | 10:17 |
| infinity | so /usr/share/doc/php-pear is a symlink to /usr/share/doc/php5-common | 10:17 |
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