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blazewhy is ./configure not starting at all?12:00
blazehelp me, please12:00
JaakBut for a server it's ubuntu / null too?12:00
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blaze?12:01
zcat[1] for a server it should have asked you to pick a login and password..12:01
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eyequeueserver (versions back) asked me for root password12:01
xnullll12:01
xnullsame12:01
JaakWell it didn'12:01
Jaakt12:01
zcat[1] weird.12:01
Linuturk_NBmmk, oem-config didn't work like I wanted it to12:01
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zcat[1] init=/bin/bash I guess, and add one the hard way :)12:01
Linuturk_NBit didn't wipe out the old user and such and ask for a new one12:01
Jaaki will reinstall, it doesn't take as much time as xp, what is it 10/15 min?12:01
Jaaklol12:02
xnullf'RandolphCarter, same ..12:02
JaakWhat are the advantages of a server?12:02
xanavimJaak: it's pretty quick, depending on proc speed/hard drive speed etc.12:02
Fly_Moloive been looking through the mirrors and i cant seem to find the MD5 files12:02
zcat[1] no advantages at all!!12:02
NoUse!tell Jaak about server12:02
zcat[1] disadvantages: no GUI12:02
xanavimJaak: uses less hard drive space12:02
xnullgrep -i vesa xorg.conf12:02
xnull        Driver      "vesa"12:02
xnullroot@emi-desktop:/etc/X11# egrep -i fglrx xorg.conf12:02
xnull        Driver      "fglrx"12:02
xanavimJaak: no irritating GUI, etc.12:02
blazewhy is ./configure not starting at all?12:02
xnull'RandolphCarter, why I have 2 drivers?12:03
Jaaklol12:03
xnullRandolphCarter, why I have 2 drivers?12:03
Linuturk_NB!oem-config12:03
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Linuturk_NB12:03
NoUseblaze please give us more information12:03
zcat[1] bah!! A full install uses less than 2G, you can't even buy a driver smaller than 60G these days..12:03
blazei want to install my video drivers12:03
blazep4m800ce-p4m800pro-cn-clexf40063-kernel-src_20051215-1.zip12:03
zcat[1] *drive12:03
NoUseblaze what kind of card?12:03
Jaakso server has no gnome user interface?12:03
xanavimzcat[1] : *I* can12:03
blazeNoUse, VN800 UniChrome Pro integrated graphics ( VN800 )12:03
Fly_Molo404 Error12:03
NoUseblaze install the build-essential package12:03
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blazeNoUse, it's here http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=10112:03
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blazei've installed it NoUse12:04
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zcat[1] I can't .. I tried to find a 40G new recently.. 60G was the smallest they had.12:04
NoUseblaze and ./configure doesn't output any error messages?12:04
xnullRandolphCarter, restaring X again..12:04
blazeit says:12:04
xanavimJaak: you can always apt-get install the GUI afterwards12:04
NoUseblaze don't paste in here12:04
Linuturk_NBfuck it, I'll just reinstall12:04
xanavimJaak: but that defeats the purpose12:04
Linuturk_NBscrew this OEM crap12:04
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blazeit's only one line NoUse12:04
NoUseblaze ok12:05
Jaakyes12:05
blazeit says: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory12:05
dizyhi... is there anyway to get rid of the icons on the desktop... i have icons of my windows drives.. but its also in the "Places" menu so I was trying to get rid of them from the desktop12:05
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blazeNoUse, any idea?12:05
NoUseblaze you need to cd into the directory that has the configure script before you can run it12:05
blazecan you help me with that package?12:05
blazethat i'm trying to install?12:05
zcat[1] I do the full install even on servers.. the extra space is minimal, and I can ssh -X and run GUI apps on the server from home. It's not even worth turning off GDM, the memory is uses is so minimal.12:06
NoUseblaze sorry, no12:06
blazeok :( 10x anyway12:06
Fly_Molocan someone give me the link to the MD5 files please?12:06
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zcat[1] perhaps if you're setting up an old P133 as a firewall it might be worth doing a server install I guess..12:06
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Fly_Moloi cant seem to find them12:06
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HotDrivegood day all12:06
Some_Personhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1487212:07
Some_Personwhat is the KERNELSRC?12:07
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niGhTm4r3hey12:07
niGhTm4r3is there any way of recording the desktop?12:07
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zcat[1] niGhTm4r3: recording as video or screenshot?12:08
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niGhTm4r3video12:08
Some_PersonHelp me12:08
Fly_Molo^was that the MD5 link?12:08
niGhTm4r3video+sound wont be bad either :D12:08
zcat[1] no way I know of.. use tvout and feed it into a capture card perhaps?12:08
JonathanKentwmvdmod.dll --- y need this decoder12:08
JonathanKent!wmvdmod.dll12:08
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, JonathanKent12:08
JonathanKentthis dll12:08
niGhTm4r3dont have a capture card :|12:08
nickrudistanbul, I've heard that records the desktop12:09
eyequeueFly_Molo, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/indices/md5sums.gz12:09
Fly_Moloubotu: that link is down, Error 40412:09
ubotuFly_Molo: I think you lost me on that one12:09
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zcat[1] Actually that's something I want to do.. I need to make a video of compiz sometime..12:09
Some_Personhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872 PLEASE HELP ME12:09
HotDriveneed help with webcam... :(12:09
Fly_Moloah ok thank you12:09
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eyequeueFly_Molo, similar structure on other mirrors12:09
Fly_Molodo i copy and paste that then before the install12:09
xnullhttp://pastebin.ca/60072 any ideea ppl?12:09
nickrudniGhTm4r3, istanbul, according to the package description does video recording of the desktop12:09
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niGhTm4r3zcat[1] , is compz easy to install/configure? :d12:09
niGhTm4r3ty, nickrud :P12:10
zOap_std2when is 6.06 released?12:10
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zcat[1] nickrud: awesome! thanks.. saved me making up some cables :)12:10
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nickrudzcat[1] , niGhTm4r3 I've never used it, mind you12:10
rixxoncan i make the mail-notifification package open my gmail inbox in firefox?12:10
xnullf'skippy81, online ?12:10
zcat[1] niGhTm4r3: easy once you know how :)12:10
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zOap_std2does 5.10 and 6.06 have ndiswrapper in kernel?12:10
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skippy81hello xnull, your in luck the text highlight caught my eye :)12:10
crimsunzOap_std2: yes12:10
niGhTm4r3saw sume nice vids :D and wanted to show it off to my windows-users friends :D12:11
skippy81how are you getting on? xnull12:11
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niGhTm4r3so they`ll quit that so called "os"12:11
cwilluAnybody know of a pam auth module that detmines success by exit code of a script, or otherwise allows the use of a script instead of writing a c module from scratch?12:11
Some_PersonHELP ME!!! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872 HELP ME!!!12:11
xnullskippy81,  hi.. bad i can`t make my ati drivers to work12:11
fv950008hello12:11
zOap_std2crimsun, ok, thanks. I installed ndiswrapper from source. so that may be why I'm having troublee modprobing it..12:11
xnullskippy81,  http://pastebin.ca/60072 if you can take a look12:11
fv950008everybody12:11
fv950008iam from argentina12:11
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Some_Personhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1487212:12
skippy81xnull, ok but i assume it works apart from that output?12:12
Some_Personhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1487212:12
Fly_Molodoes the 64-bit verson of breezy support dual core?12:12
Some_Personhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1487212:12
Some_Personhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1487212:12
Some_Personhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1487212:12
Some_Personhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1487212:12
Some_Personhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1487212:12
Some_Personhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1487212:12
Some_Personhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1487212:12
Some_Personhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1487212:12
Fly_Molostop spamming12:12
skippy81quit the spam12:12
cwilluyou really don't like it here do you?  :)12:13
IcomeyAlright, I'm having a small problem...12:13
xnullskippy81,  yep;.12:13
Some_PersonTakes too long to get an answer12:13
niGhTm4r3Some_Person, wait maybe?12:13
HotDrivesomegeek, patience is a virtue...12:13
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skippy81ok xnull, i guess we may as well try removing and installing the drivers from scratch, but i must admit i dont think it will hep12:13
nickrudSome_Person, so we don't know. Kick us12:14
niGhTm4r3what if we all spammed like you did?12:14
Fly_Moloso does the 64-bit version of breezy support dual core AMDs12:14
dsashmm, if that doesn't miss the point of pastebin.12:14
skippy81i assume those errors are all the features your card doesnt support12:14
Centaur5What's the easiest way to do internet routing with a server?  Any program to assist or does a script have to be made from scratch?12:14
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cwillunickrud;  don't give him ideas :)12:14
xnullskippy81,  I did that.. no help12:14
nickrudhrm, kick is a bad word here :)12:14
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Hsoquestion.. can someone try this link and tell me if they just get a blank page, please? http://www.basildon.gov.uk/80256B6400336782/WebLaunch/LaunchMe12:14
nickrudSaid that to seveas once, and he did :)12:14
skippy81ok whats your card again, i will see if i can dig up anything specific about it on linux12:14
user_hola12:14
IcomeyI'm unable to open Firefox or the Terminal on a default Ubuntu 5.10 Installation right now.12:14
HotDrivenickrud, any ideas on getting webcams to work?12:14
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xnullskippy81,  maybe I have something wrong on xorg.conf?12:14
user_alguien que hable en castellanop?12:14
nickrudHotDrive, no I don't own one, sorry12:14
zOap_std2where can I find the download s for dapper? I only find it as an RC..12:15
skippy81bag xnull, i seriously doubt its xorg.conf related12:15
user_hola12:15
Centaur5user_: Las personas en #ubuntu-es hablan espanol12:15
user_si alguien habla en castellano que me conteste por favor12:15
Fly_Moloyo hablo espanol12:15
Fly_Moloque neccesita?12:15
skippy81although you could copy xorg.conf to pastebin for me to look at in case, but most importantly give me the exact model and make of you laptop xnull12:15
user_hola fly12:15
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Fly_Molobuenas tardes user_12:15
bluelotus;-D Anyone know how I can say <User username> defaultroot /some/dir/path/here </user> except in terms proftp will understand?12:16
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Boooi am tring to install 5.10 on a macbook and the installer doesnt seem to see the hard drives. dmesg shows no entries for hard drives?12:16
user_quiero saber como encontrar un chat en castellano12:16
Aboanyone knows where does gaim store the sounds it plays?12:16
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user_fly de donde eres?12:16
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xnullskippy81, w8 to put xorg.conf12:16
Fly_Molouser_ wants to know how to find a chat in Castellano12:16
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Fly_Moloahorita me contestan12:16
Specerr, /usr/share/sounds/gaiom12:17
Fly_Moloes mi primera ves aqui12:17
xnullskippy81, http://pastebin.ca/6007712:17
Specerr, /usr/share/sounds/gaim/12:17
SpecAbo: ^^12:17
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AboSpec,  cheers12:17
Boooanyone?12:17
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leboffany dmraid help yet?12:18
Fly_Molomust be a problem with OSx i believe Booo12:18
Booois there a work around12:18
Boooi do not need os x on it12:18
nickrudBooo, your x86 mac uses a different boot mechanism than x86 pcs. There are workarounds, the one I saw was using the ntloader to bootstrap lilo12:19
Some_PersonI need my Connexant modem to work for free.12:19
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Some_PersonOn Ubuntu12:19
nickrudSome_Person, then run at 14.4k12:19
r0xoRmisfit_toy, ping12:19
Booonickrud: thanks you12:19
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Some_Person14.4 is too slow12:19
amphiSome_Person: use the linuxant driver free @ 14.4 ;)12:19
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Some_Personany alternatives?12:19
Some_Personi cant get the 0.99 version (no limit) to work12:20
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amphiSome_Person: reverse engineer the 'registration code' or whatever?12:20
Some_Personhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1487212:20
ompaulget an external serial port version12:20
nickruddon't get an ltmodem if you want 686 kernel ;(12:20
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riddleboxdoes anyone know how I can create bar codes in linux?12:21
amphiSome_Person: it's probably just a good guy/bad guy jz or jnz, you just have to find it and flip it ;)12:21
SubRiddell, with a pencil and good ruler...12:21
Sub;)12:21
nickrudriddlebox, in openoffice, and there's xplot12:21
Some_Personcan you do it for me? :)12:21
leboffhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1487512:21
leboffthast after installing myth from synaptic12:21
Some_PersonI'm a Linux Noobie12:21
amphiSome_Person: no12:21
leboffany help?12:21
skippy81xnull your xorg.conf is fine try typing this "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"12:21
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xnullskippy81,  drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)12:22
Specuhhhmmm12:22
amphiSome_Person: that's nothing to with linux, just x86 asm12:22
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xnullskippy81,  I got that in Xorg.0.log12:22
Specriddlebox: the program "barcode" outputs to .ps files, or kbarcode12:22
skippy81paste the whole of xorg.0.log pls xnull12:22
xnullskippy81, w812:22
dsasamphi: "just" asm ? ;)12:22
skippy81xnull control and c will exit the gears benchmark if you need to12:23
xnullskippy81, its not working..12:23
Some_PersonCan someone please hack Linuxant for me??? :) :) :)12:23
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amphiSome_Person: somewhere, when you enter yr code, there's a check, is the code good or not - if you're lucky it'll be done the stupidest way, and the real code will be strcmp'd with what you entered, and you can read the real code out of memory, but I doubt it12:23
dizyhow can i connect to a network drive from the terminal ?12:23
SpecSome_Person: would that be unethical or illegal?12:23
Some_PersonDont care12:24
amphiSpec: both12:24
SpecSome_Person: i do12:24
SpecSome_Person: also, observe the CoC12:24
amphiSpec: I would think12:24
Specfailure to do so will lead to a ban12:24
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amphiSome_Person: I've told you how to do it ;)12:24
Specie: don't ask people to 'hack' Linuxant12:24
Some_PersonDoes Linuxant ask for a code?12:24
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bobboyi can't access any of the administration programs, any ideas what could be causing this?12:25
xnullskippy81, http://pastebin.ca/6008012:25
amphiSome_Person: yes - you pay them, and they give it to you12:25
george_is there a program like dvd dycrypter for linux?12:25
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Some_Personi'll google for it :)12:25
amphiSome_Person: it works quite well, swsusp doesn't like the driver much, but otherwise it's ok12:25
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Some_Personok12:26
BioVorEgeorge_: mplayer/mencoder will do it12:26
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george_thanls BioVorE12:26
BioVorEgeorge_: you tring to encode to xvid or something?12:26
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amphiSome_Person: it's not very expensive12:27
skippy81xnull, open up your xorg.conf and comment out or delete the line in modules which loads "dri"12:27
T-CANubotu tell T-CAN about restrictedformats12:27
george_just remove copyrights so i can make a backup12:27
BioVorEok12:27
xnullskippy81, Section "DRI"12:27
xnull        Mode         066612:27
xnullEndSection12:27
xnullskippy81, delete that lines ?12:27
skippy81nope, leave that bit12:28
Centaur5george_: k9copy12:28
skippy81go up to the top, look for the modules section12:28
amphigeorge_: you can mencode it with -oac copy -ovc copy IIRC12:28
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SilencerI need help12:28
xnullskippy81, then what I need to delete?..12:28
amphigeorge_: or vobcopy might do what you want12:28
SilencerI download test version 6.0612:28
skippy81Load    "dri" xnull12:28
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Silenceris there way to upgrade 5.10 with it ?12:29
Silenceror I need to download packages over internet to update 5.10 ?12:29
xnullskippy81, done .. restart X?12:29
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nickrudSilencer, just stick it in the cdrom, it should ask if you want to upgrade12:29
Silenceroky :)12:30
Silencer<312:30
SilencerI was thinking i Need to download 800 mb :012:30
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nickrudSilencer, if you have gotten stuff off the net, it'll probably want to get those also12:30
xnullskippy81, brb restarting x12:30
T-CANanyone know where i can get gstreamer0.8-mad i dont see it in the package installer12:30
nickrudT-CAN, you need to make sure your universe repository is enabled. Then you'll see it in synaptic12:31
dsasT-CAN: Have you enabled universe?12:31
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T-CANyeah12:31
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ajmalyo12:31
xnullskippy81, ok.. done12:31
xnullskippy81, glxinfo  |grep -i direct12:32
xnullXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".12:32
xnulldirect rendering: No12:32
ajmalhi tous le monde12:32
ajmalbonne nuit12:32
nickrud!fr12:32
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:32
zesthi all over there12:32
nickrudajmal, or english here :)12:32
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zestsomeone any knowlegde about phion firewall and ipsec config ?12:33
xnullskippy81, on?12:33
skippy81xnull what does fglrxinfo say?12:33
XenguyHardware question: I have a dual-boot installation at work, and they are going to replace the motherboard soon.  A co-worker said to me 'good thing you're not running linux, because getting an IP address is tied to the MAC address, so you won't get an IP address once the motherboard is replaced'.  Does this make any sense to any here reading this?12:34
skippy81and try running the gears benchmark again12:34
xnullskippy81, working but no 3d..acc/12:34
ajmalqui parle fr ici12:34
nickrudXenguy, no, unless you've defined the mac address in the interfaces file12:34
xnullskippy81, OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)12:34
Xenguynickrud: I haven't, no12:34
ajmalexcuse me12:34
ajmali want to know my ip adresse12:35
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Xenguyajmal: ifconfig12:35
nickrudXenguy, I've moved this hd from one machine to another, had no problems with ethernet12:35
Touruajmal: http://whatismyip.com/12:35
Xenguynickrud: but this is a motherboard, not a HD :-)12:35
sloucheri'm getting nothing but these errors when I run apt-get update (111 Connection refused)12:35
sloucher Is there something going on?12:35
Noah0504Hey, I was just wondering what people thought.  I want to get back into programming.  Do you think I should learn C/C++ or something like Python?12:35
skippy81i dont understand how weve gone backwards, we had your card working yesterday12:35
nickrudXenguy, mine was even more radical than a motherboard, if you think about it12:36
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ajmalthanks every body12:36
brettzillahow do you create a link through the terminal to a folder?12:36
xnullskippy81, .. what next?12:36
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olliehi all !12:36
Wyreddamnit12:36
ChousukeNoah0504: learn both. :P12:36
brettzillai want to make a link to a newly mounted drive on my desktop, but the link would be in /media/12:36
ChousukeNoah0504: You could start with Python though.12:36
Xenguynickrud: I've never had any problem with HD's, but that doesn't have anything to do with networking either12:36
sloucherbrettzilla ln -l targettfolder newfolder12:36
xnullbrettzilla : ln -s /usr/bla ~user/Desktop12:36
Noah0504Chousuke: hehe, Okay, that second answer was what I was looking for!12:36
brettzillathank you!12:37
ChousukeNoah0504: though if you learn python first, C++ will be pretty painful :D12:37
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ChousukeBut I think you should know both.12:37
Noah0504Chousuke: Hmm...12:37
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nickrudXenguy, think about it. Moving a hard drive from one machine to another is more radical than just replacing a motherboard in one machine, with all other cards carried over.12:37
skippy81right we will just pull them xnull.12:37
ollieI search some peaople who interesed to create a design software, like kivio or visio, in gtk. I have already make some code but i need designer and som developer12:38
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olliewho is interresed ?12:38
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HotDriveneed help teaching my driver to create device12:38
Noah0504Chousuke: Well, if I wanted to maybe pick back up on C++ (I learned a little C a few years ago), what would I need to get started?  Are there any packages I need to install?12:38
ChousukeNoah0504: python is an easy-to-understand language, but it has several nice things that C++ lacks, and if you try to learn C++ after python, you'll probably have at least some trouble coping with the lacking niceties. :)12:38
Xenguynickrud: well this fellow is quite experienced with all things linux, networking, you name it, so it has me a bit concerned (to get back to my original issue :-)12:38
Linuturk_NBUbuntu 6.06 is my new bread and butter folks. I've got a cash register I'm running it on. My printer was Plug and Play!!!12:38
Linuturk_NBi'm happy12:38
Linuturk_NBvery happy12:38
ChousukeNoah0504: gcc/g++12:39
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T-CANbye all12:39
xnullskippy81, ...12:39
Noah0504Chousuke: ...and I don't think I need to install anything for Python -- am I right?12:39
nickrudXenguy, well, I tend to trust people I can touch over people I can't ;)12:39
ChousukeNoah0504: if you already know some C, then it should be easier.12:39
Wyredhow to add repositories for xchat in kubuntu ?12:39
ollieIt will be free an published on GPL !12:39
ChousukeNoah0504: well, the python interpreter. but that comes by default :)12:39
dsasNoah0504: Python stuff should all be there.12:39
Noah0504Chousuke: hehe, But that was a few years ago, and I really don't remember too much!12:39
Xenguynickrud: heh, I'll keep asking around12:39
nickrudXenguy, and thinking a bit harder, I was using dhcp on both12:40
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Noah0504Are there a lot of Python driven projects around?  What's the more popular language?12:40
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skippy81xnull 1) dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg12:40
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spowershey all: do the files in /etc/cron.d do anything by themselves, or is it necessary for them to be linked at from /etc/cron.daily for example12:40
ChousukeNoah0504: anyway, for python docs and tutorials, python.org is sufficient. :)12:40
Xenguynickrud: yeah this is dhcp also, but I think they do tie it to the MAC address on the network side12:40
Noah0504Chousuke: Thanks, I'll check them out!  :)12:41
skippy81xnull 2) sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx12:41
Xenguynickrud: I still don't see why linux shouldn't get it tho12:41
zestHas someone out there any knowlegde about phion firewall and ipsec config ?12:41
ChousukeNoah0504: python and C++ are both popular12:41
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nickrudXenguy, I am no expert on networking (in fact I tend to run from most questions) but that one just doesn't feel right12:41
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skippy81xnull 3) sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)12:41
ChousukeNoah0504: C++ is faster than python, since python is an interpreted language.12:41
skippy81xnull 4) reboot12:41
zest:12:41
xnullskippy81, ok at 1 what driver should I select?12:41
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dsasThe python docs are installed by default (as is diveintopython)12:42
ChousukeNoah0504: but C++ is also more complicated and lower-level12:42
skippy81ati or vesa12:42
Noah0504Chousuke: Well, I think I may do a little reading before I decide on which one I'll at least start with.  Thanks for all you help!12:42
walkoverwhich key combination is (AT) on an english keyboard12:42
Xenguynickrud: I'll let you know how it turns out, since your 'nick' is so easy to remember :-)12:42
spowerswalkover: shift-212:42
skippy81just copy and paste, it probably wont even ask you for any details12:42
spowersoh you mean english english12:42
RandolphCarterspowers: which english? :)12:42
RandolphCartershift apostraphe12:42
walkoveri dont know12:42
xnullskippy81, ok rebootiing..12:43
nickrudXenguy, if you add the e to the end, it's even more descriptive :)12:43
xnullskippy81, talk with u in a few sec12:43
walkoverim trying to figure out mey keymap12:43
spowersyey oldye englishye12:43
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dou213skippy81, what was that all about? xgl? i have some probs with it myself.. can't install it12:43
dizyif im trying to create a link on the desktop to a program that needs to be run as root only.. how can i do that without being logged in as root12:43
RandolphCarterdizy: link to gksudo 'program'12:43
Xenguynickrud: heh, I get it12:43
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dizyah.. okie12:44
dizythanks12:44
Xenguynickrud: ttyl - suppertime12:44
RandolphCarternp's :)12:44
nickrudXenguy, see you about, I'll be offline for a few days, moving12:44
skippy81dou213, no its about ATI and their worthless graphics cards12:44
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skippy81i really feel stabbed in the back by them, i used to swear by ati, and no i come to linux and they are a nightmare :)12:44
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walkoverwhat is the command for changing keymap? keymap og something i just cant remember12:45
dou213skippy81, i have an ATI video card too.. so Xgl won't work on it? i tried to install it for several weeks, followed a lot of tutorials, but didn't work12:45
dliskippy81, fsf.org recommends intel video cards12:45
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matharHi there. I hope someone can help.12:45
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skippy81yeah well intel cards appear to be be the best internal ones you can get at the moment12:46
nickrudthe intel on board here worked easily, but only 16bit in gl.12:46
skippy81what card do you have dou21312:46
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dou213what does the "-phigh" tag in "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"12:46
skippy81resets your xorg to its initial configuration12:46
matharI have just set up dapper drake on my spare pentium III box but during setup I wasn't asked for a root password. How do I set this?12:46
skippy81wipes it basically12:46
dou213nice... :)12:46
nickruddou213, debconf has low, medium, high and critical flags, they determine the level of questions asked12:46
Chousuke!rootsudo12:47
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.12:47
skippy81the other commands i gave him were to strip his ati drivers12:47
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Chousukemathar: see that12:47
dou213nickrud, debconf? i'm new to linux ... what is this?12:47
nickruddou213, its a tool used by packages for asking questions about how you want your package configured.12:48
dou213skippy81, w8, i'll look what video card i have12:48
petrik#kubuntu12:48
petrikoops12:48
dou213ATI technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY12:48
zestSome help needed with ipsec config !!12:49
dou213is my video card12:49
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dmbti have a really good feeling about this dapper12:49
nickruddou213, during the initial install, debconf is set to high(critical) so very few questions are asked; when you do dpkg-reconfigure on the command line it defaults to low, so 'every' question is asked12:49
dmbtand last time i had a good feeling about software was firefox, a couple days before it hit 1.012:49
skippy81ok dou213 open a terminal and type "fglrxinfo"12:49
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dou213nickrud, initial install of what?12:50
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dou213skippy81, yes... what r u interested?12:50
nickruddou213, of ubuntu, when you boot from the cd & install12:50
matharChousuke: sorry I don't understand12:50
skippy81does it return information about your card dou21312:51
dou213skippy81, yes12:51
skippy81ok well you have the correct driver working then12:51
gambitwhat server for suse chat?12:51
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dou213skippy81, yeah, just odd it doesn't work12:51
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Silencerpffffff12:52
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nickrudmathar, ubuntu disables the root login by default, and prefers that you use sudo for root access. The link Chousuke gave you explains why12:53
dou213nickrud, ok, so debconf sets how many questions a user is confrunted with during an installation12:53
nickruddou213, precisely12:53
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matharsorry for being a complete chump but can anyone tell me how to set set the root password?12:54
dou213nickrud, in any linux distro?12:54
nickruddou213, no, it's a debian/ubuntu thing. I assume other debian based distros use it also12:54
nickrudmathar, sudo passwd root12:54
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nickrudmathar, but read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo12:55
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dou213nickrud and skippy81, thx for help12:55
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skippy81np12:55
nickruddou213, yw12:55
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matharthanks nickrud12:56
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binarydigithow would i give my username write access to a directory ?12:56
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Mysta_hey guys, can I log off a user who is logged in locally on the box via SSH?????12:57
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nickrudbinarydigit, add yourself to the group owner of the directory, and make the directory writeable by the group12:58
slouchermysta - use ps -ef to find the pid then kill -9 pid12:58
petrikSorry Kubuntu question, has anyone had any experience of not being able to get to admin mode because of some dcopserver error?12:58
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dmbtMysta_: but you probably want to kill all or there procs also right?12:59
dmbti would install and use the slay command12:59
Mysta_ok sloucher thanks.12:59
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Mysta_dmbt: i just want to log off the user, Im assuming it'll kill the processes as well01:00
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amphiMysta_: whowatch is a handy program01:00
Mysta_amphi: hmm havent heard of it yet01:00
dmbtMysta_: killing the pid of the user won't kill the users procs01:01
dmbtthats what slay does01:01
amphiMysta_: an apt-get away ;)01:01
Mysta_where can i read/download it01:01
dmbti love that program01:01
Mysta_its just called slay?01:01
dmbtsudo apt-get install slay01:01
dmbtwill install it01:01
dmbtyeh01:01
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amphiMysta_: sudo apt-get install whowatch01:02
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slouchermysta_ tell me if your apt-get works because mine doesn't right now01:02
dou213where can i look for such programs?01:02
Mysta_dmbt: couldn't find package slay01:02
Mysta_sloucher: are you getting an error message?01:03
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Mysta_if so what is it?01:03
dmbtMysta_: use synaptic, and open up all the repositories01:03
Mysta_k01:03
slouchersure am  (111 Connection refused)01:03
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Mysta_dmbt: i only have shell access now01:03
dmbtoh01:04
Mysta_now Im getting a permission denied error, this is after i ran the sudo apt-get install slay01:04
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Dreamglidercan i set diffrent background pictures on each four desktops ?01:05
dmbtMysta_: do you have another apt-get thing running somewhere?01:05
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Mysta_dmbt:  hmm im not sure, can i run top and check? remember i cant tell what someone may be doing @ the server itself01:06
Mysta_locally01:06
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sloucherconnection refused for my synaptic - do i need to do anything on the firewall to run synaptic01:06
Mysta_sloucher: did you have problems in the past, or is this a recent issue?01:06
sloucherrecent01:06
dmbtMysta_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesCliHowto01:06
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Mysta_dmbt: I'm familar w/ that. Thanks tho01:07
dmbtmake sure universse and restricted are on there01:07
sloucheryeah, thanks mysta - did that long ago01:07
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dmbtslay should be in there01:07
sloucherthe repositories are working for everyone here?01:07
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Chris_TuckerIs there a gui application / group of applications i can use to rip sections of a dvd to mpg or avi?01:08
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Mysta_dmbt; i'll have to take this up tomorrow, I just got the new dell laptop and Im off to play w/ my new toy01:08
dmbtoh01:08
sloucherChris - torvid01:08
dmbthave fun01:08
Mysta_Chris_Tucker: or you can try Thoggen01:08
sloucheropps no it's tovid01:08
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skippy81sorry xnull i just installed my chroot and had to reboot01:09
Mysta_amphi & dmbt: thanks for your help. hopefully u guys are around 2morrow!01:09
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Chris_Tuckertrying thoggen first. its in my repos. Where would i get torvid, sloucher ?01:09
sloucherthoggen looks good - maybe i'll try it01:10
skippy81grr forums are down :(01:10
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slouchertovid is command line and find it with goggle - it's on sorgeforce too i believe01:10
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i\oHey, I'm trying to play an important ram file in realplayer, and it keeps stopping at like 4 minutes, instead of going to the 30 minutes that it says, i have no idea what to do01:12
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dmbti\o: are you using realplayer01:12
amphiMysta_: you got whowatch?01:12
abeckwhere do I get the ubuntu version of vnc?01:12
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i\odmbt: realplayer, mplayer plugin for firefox, gxine, .. I'm trying it with all sorts of players01:13
Lup1nIIIhello world01:13
dmbti\o: if it doesn't work with realplayer, and the *official* codecs, i don't know what would01:13
sas171hi, Im trying to rund artsd and everytime I do 'artsd -F 6 -S 256' im getting: "Creating link /home/sas171/.kde/socket-sas171-desktop. can't create mcop directory" . What am I doing wrong?01:14
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i\ocould it be a caching problem or streaming problem somehow?01:14
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dmbti\o: is the file public, so i can test it on my machine?01:14
i\ohttp://www.cbc.ca/nb/media/news/newscast.ram01:15
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i\odmbt, it normally doesnt stop until after 5 - 10 minutes01:15
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i\oright when it gets to the important story01:15
Dreamgliderabeck, http://www.realvnc.com01:15
dmbtill tryy01:15
Jimmey__Good evening, folks01:15
SilencerI put the cdrom 6.06 RC version and he say me do I want to update I click yes he open me synaptic but he don't find any update01:15
i\odmbt, thanks01:15
Silencer:(01:15
SilencerI just don't get the way01:16
i\odmbt, you can't seek can you?01:16
baconbaconok its' 00:30:1201:16
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Jimmey__Silencer, does "sudo apt-get upgrade" work?01:16
Silencerleme try :)01:16
Xenguynickrud: good luck with the mv01:16
Silencerdo I need to mount cdrom ?01:16
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Silencerhe following packages have been kept back:01:16
Silencer  cpp cpp-4.0 g++ g++-4.0 gcc gcc-4.0 libc6-dev libstdc++6-4.0-dev01:16
Silencer0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.01:16
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nickrudXenguy, heh, I'm watching being done as I type01:16
Jimmey__Silencer, what about "sudo apt-get install build-essential"?01:17
Silencerwell nothing01:17
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baconbaconhey i\o it just stopped..01:17
Xenguynickrud: that helps ;-)01:17
dmbtyeh01:17
baconbaconabout 1:30 - 2:0001:17
rixxonwill dapper ship with vim 7?01:17
rixxon(rc didn't)01:17
dmbtsomething is fcked up01:17
Jimmey__Silencer, is that what you're trying to install?01:17
Silencerbuild-essential is already the newest version.01:17
Lup1nIIIsorry...i have run nmap on localhost with -p 1-65535 option and have these port open: 631/tcp   open  ipp; 33909/tcp open  unknown; 35564/tcp open  unknown; 44716/tcp open  unknown; 62195/tcp open  unknown.....what services is?01:17
Jimmey__Silencer, oh.01:17
Xenguyrixxon: apparently not, unfortunately01:17
SilencerJimmey__, I want to upgrade 5.10 to 6.0601:17
rixxon:(01:17
SilencerI download the 6.06 iso01:18
Jimmey__Silencer, oh.01:18
Xenguyrixxon: that's what I thot01:18
Silenceris there way or not01:18
SilencerOr i need to use internet update ?01:18
Jimmey__Silencer, that's not the way to upgrade01:18
Jimmey__Silencer, you can either use the CD to do a clean install, or you could use the internet01:18
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Xenguyrixxon: I wouldn't be surprised if somebody backports it though01:18
juanca7777hello everyone01:19
JowiLup1nIII: "sudo lsof -i tcp:35564" will let you know01:19
Lup1nIIItanks Jowi01:19
dsasSilencer, Jimmey__: You canuse the cd to update too.01:19
juanca7777I have a problem with my X driver, I think it has to do with DRI, any volenteers?01:19
Silencerdsas, how ?01:19
rixxonXenguy: hopefully :/01:19
Xenguyrixxon: there are too many vim zealots out there for it not to happen :-)01:20
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Jimmey__dsas, yes...01:20
Silencerdsas, well ?01:20
Jimmey__Silencer, you'll need to change your sources.list to include in it the CDROM for 6.0601:20
dsasSilencer: system->admin -> properties. Make sure cd is in drive, and press "add cd rom"01:20
rixxonXenguy: true true01:20
Silencerdsas, I did that ;)01:20
Silencersynaptec ?01:21
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juanca7777synaptic01:21
dsassorry, system -> admin -> software properties. or in synaptic yes.01:21
Silencerok01:21
SilencerI did that01:21
Silencerhe found him :)01:21
sedrakeAnyone knows about a ftp client that can edit files directly on server?01:21
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Lup1nIIIJowi python use these port...why?? python have a service?01:21
Eleafhi01:22
dsasnow you should be able to press "mark all upgrades" and then "apply"01:22
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Jimmey__Hey Ethan ;)01:22
Jimmey__Haha01:22
Dreamglider6.06 is it final releace now ?01:22
axhello, i have a computer with no network adapter that i want to install pure-data on, i'm wondering what the best way to do that is?01:22
axdo i just individually download all the dependencies and put it on a cd or something and copy them over?01:22
Jimmey__Dreamglider, the official release is tomorrow - I'd say it's as good as done.01:22
JowiLup1nIII: that i have no idea. look at the PID you got from lsof. "ps -fg pidnumber" and you should see the full command that use it01:23
Dreamglidersweet sweet :)01:23
sloucherI think it will be thursday the new release01:23
Jimmey__ax, I think that there's an option with apt-get to download a package ( and it's dependancies ) and not install it. try "man apt-get"01:23
dsasDreamglider: the final release is building now :). The one on the webpage is the same except chinese language fixes01:23
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PShi, quick q: when i'm on the command line, how do i get a file into the clipboard?01:24
axJimmey__: but i don't have a network (or another ubuntu box with the same config)01:24
Jimmey__PS, to copy a file, use the command "cp", if that's what you mean.01:24
Jimmey__ax, do you have access to a debian machine with the internet?01:25
axJimmey__: yeah, i do01:25
Dreamglideri'll order 10 cd's, i01:25
PSJimmey__, no sorry, i want to get the contents of a file into the clipboard without having to open it in gedit or something01:25
Jimmey__ax, then it'd be simpler to use the method I explained to install the software you want - Although downloading the dependencies and package on Windows machine, and then copying them over would also work01:26
PSJimmey__, i tried xclip but it didn't seem to work...01:26
Dreamglideri want all my friends to have the oppertunity to try somthing beside Windows01:26
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XenguyPS: where's the output going?01:26
axJimmey__: but are ubuntu packages the same as debian sarge packages?01:26
PSXenguy: good q, dunno, but when i paste in firefox my previous clipboard contents are pasted01:26
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riddleboxI forget, but who told me about kbarcode?01:27
Jimmey__ax, I think, yes. Although I'm not 100% sure, I've used a debian sarge package on Ubuntu before without hitch, and all .debs should work anyway.01:27
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XenguyPS: if the output is headed for a web form, I'm not sure you can do that from the command-line - best to use a text editor perhaps01:27
Dreamglideranyhow, two questions. 1: can i have diffrent background on each four desktops, i'm using Gnome?01:28
juanca7777anyone has a savage graphics card?01:28
PSXenguy: hmm, ok.  worth a try :-)01:28
XenguyPS: sure, why not ;-)01:28
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JowiDreamglider: that was only one question. answer is no. gnome does not use desktops, only virtual windows01:29
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notoshi all im trying to upgrade from breezy to dapper but i "get error code (1)" on the package lvm2_2.02.0201:29
notoswhat can i do?01:29
JowiDreamglider: or "viewports" as they are also called01:29
nickrudDreamglider, not natively with the gnome window manager, no.01:29
Dreamgliderok ok.01:29
mbahhay01:30
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JowiDreamglider: what's the 2nd question? i'm curious now01:30
Jowi:)01:30
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nickrudDreamglider, I've seen some hacks that will do that, but when I tried them they sucked :)01:30
Dreamgliderqoestion 2: i have Firefox, and mplayer plugin but video wont play in firefox anymore01:30
chopchop_Dreamglider: what do you mean 'anymore'?01:31
chopchop_Dreamglider: it played before?01:31
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Dreamgliderthe file loads/buffers to 100% but nothin is played, no audio/video nothing, in the end i just have to right-klick and download the file any play it01:32
Clint-^_^01:32
Dreamgliderchopchop_, yes it worked01:32
nickrudJimmey__, no non and not!01:32
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Clint-detect me, hehe :-)01:32
Jimmey__nickrud, what've I done?01:32
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nickrudJimmey__, debian binary packages, especially from sarge will not work with ubuntu reliably. There is no guarantee of binary compatiblity01:33
chopchop_Dreamglider: just go to the /tmp when it downloaded 100% and mplayer the file mplay*01:33
Jimmey__nickrud, that's why I said that I wasn't 100% sure. Sorry to be dishing out inaccurate information :(01:33
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nickrudJimmey__, :) I saw debian sarge on ubuntu, and didn't look further01:34
Lup1nIIIJowi tanks  python launch hpssd (the server for HP printing system....the other port is used by amsn and skype...:D tanks tanks01:34
Dreamgliderchopchop_, cant i get it to play in firefox again!01:34
Jowinp Lup1nIII :)01:35
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chopchop_Dreamglider: are u using dapper or breezy?01:35
Dreamgliderchopchop_, 5.1001:35
chopchop_Dreamglider: that's breezy, have you try to do 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer' again?01:36
xgllodappers official release is tomorrow correct?01:36
Jimmey__Yes01:37
Dreamgliderchopchop_,  no i have not done that01:37
chopchop_Dreamglider: hope that works01:37
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Dreamgliderok i'll see01:37
chopchop_Dreamglider: so do it01:37
Dreamglider0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.01:38
Dreamglider:/01:38
nickrudJimmey__, packages that are 'all' like perl and scripts often work just fine. Case by case.01:38
Kr0ntabsup folks01:38
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Ubunnnhola01:38
Ubunnnbuenas01:38
Jimmey__!es01:39
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:39
chopchop_Dreamglider: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28MPlayer.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox01:39
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chopchop_Dreamglider: make sure u add the extra repositories01:40
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notoswhat does mean E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)?01:41
nickrudnotos, depends on the context, but usually it's a bug in the package from my experience01:42
nickrudnotos, what package?01:43
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notosmmm... lvm2_2.02.0201:43
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nickrudnotos, erg. LVM is not one of my strong points :) I'd put the entire error message on the pastebin and give the link here. I've done that before and got good help01:44
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notosok :-)01:45
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astriskhi all..01:46
Jimmey__Hello01:46
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astriskhey can any one tell me how to patch i m not gettin the 3rd 4th line of this document http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1488001:47
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PSXenguy, i found a short python script which will send the contents of stdin to the gnome clipboard: http://pastebin.com/74809101:47
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XenguyPS: hah - no kidding01:47
astriskplz have a look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14880  n plz tel me what exactly i have to do?01:47
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PSXenguy: no, works a treat :-)01:48
PetrolBombCPU temp moniotr to place on desktop???01:48
notoshere i got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1488101:48
XenguyPS: nice01:48
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Jimmey__astrisk: what's the problem, and what are you trying to do?01:48
PSXenguy: i've got a hunch that there's probably something in Ubuntu that does the same but i couldn't find it01:49
Jimmey__PetrolBomb, lmsensors01:49
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Jimmey__"sudo apt-get install lm-sensors"01:49
PSXenguy: it's the little things that make life easier01:49
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ubuntu_hi all01:50
PetrolBombin repositry?01:50
Jimmey__PetrolBomb, Yeah01:50
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astriskJimmey__, actually i m trying to install the VIA graphics driver i got this document at Ubuntu forum n not able to find out how to start...  :(01:50
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Jimmey__astrisk: are you sure that these drivers aren't available in a more easily installed format?01:51
PetrolBombJimmey is that an L or I01:51
astriskJimmey__, ya01:51
jacaumwill ubuntu dapper beta automatically update to the full release?01:51
bponti just downloaded an iso file, but it's been compressed *iso.bz2...what's the command to uncompress this...(not too experienced with bzip)01:52
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astriskJimmey__, i searched a lot n finally got this solution i have tried many solution but in all cases my Xserver went off..01:52
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bimberibpont: bunzip2 foo.bz201:52
Jimmey__PetrolBomb, L01:53
bpontbimberi: thx01:53
astriskJimmey__, i only want to know what he told in first 3 line....01:53
bimberibpont: np :)01:53
Jimmey__astrisk: what's the link again?01:53
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astriskJimmey__ ,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1488001:54
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Jimmey__astrisk: thanks01:54
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Jimmey__astrisk: you want to know what he's done in the first three lines?01:55
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astriskJimmey__: yup in paste bin its line no 3 to 501:55
zerohi01:55
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sedrakecan I install xgl compiz on ubuntu 5.10?01:55
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phidauxafternoon all.. does anyone have the time (or patience) to help a noob out with installing firefox?01:56
sedrakegnome01:56
astriskJimmey__:  tell me what i have to do?01:56
zerodoes anyone know how to network an ubuntu and a windows 2000 machine?01:56
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Jimmey__astrisk: can't you copy and paste?01:56
untungzero: what you want to do?01:56
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astriskJimmey__, where?01:56
bimberiubotu tell zero about samba01:56
astriskJimmey__: and what?01:57
Jimmey__astrisk: copy and paste what you see into a terminal, perhaps?01:57
untungzero: i have ubuntu and win2k here01:57
zeroi want to be able to read my Girlfriends machok01:57
zerowhat i want to do is read my GFs machine01:57
zeroand be able to pull of mp3s from the network01:57
Jimmey__zero, does she have Windows? Or Ubuntu?01:58
zeroWin 2k01:58
PSzero, check out http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver01:58
astriskJimmey__: its says cvs command not found01:58
zeroi have ubuntu01:58
void^astrisk: lines 3 to 5 checkout (download) the sourcecode. install cvs.01:58
baconbaconif you have ubuntu and her windows,01:58
PSzero, oh wait sry, that's sharing your files out to her, hang on ... :-/01:59
Jimmey__astrisk: try "sudo apt-get install cvs"01:59
baconbaconyou can type smb://hostname/share to get to her shares01:59
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baconbaconin nautilus01:59
zeroi dunno the hostname...01:59
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baconbaconin windows, i have \\hostname\share01:59
Jimmey__zero, the IP address of her machine will do.01:59
baconbaconyes ip too02:00
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zerooh02:00
zerook02:00
zerobrb02:00
nickrudzero, and she's your girlfriend?02:00
eyequeuezero, is this with her consent?02:00
nickruderik, eyequeue cuts to the chase02:00
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zerohar har02:00
nickruderm, I mean02:00
eyequeuezero, has she somehow enabled your host to see her data?02:00
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zerowell02:00
zeroim not using a router02:00
zeroim using a crossover02:01
EchoBinaryhello all, have a question02:01
phidauxdoes anyone have the time (or patience) to help a noob out with installing firefox? It's crashing on boot. Please contact me.02:01
zerodoes that make a difference?02:01
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baconbaconif you both have an ip, no02:01
zerok02:01
EchoBinaryim running Flight7, and ive been getting update notifications quite a bit, to be expected pending the release in 2 days02:01
eyequeuezero, it makes no difference as far as the consent question, afaic02:01
KholerabbiIs dapper available for download yet?02:01
Jimmey__EchoBinary, I had the same problem. I just updated, though - Even though the packages seemed like the ones I already had.02:01
EchoBinaryin 2 days, should i reformat and install, or is there a clean upgrade path, or if i am up to date on my updates by then am i all good?02:01
hyphenatedKholerabbi: another day or two02:01
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Kholerabbiok, thanks02:02
eyequeueKholerabbi, release is in 2 days, though many are already on dapper (/msg ubotu dapper)02:02
hyphenatedEchoBinary: entirely up to you02:02
PyroMithrandirEchoBinary, if you're up to date on your upgrades, you'll be all good02:02
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void^EchoBinary: you'll be all good.02:02
EchoBinaryawesome02:02
eyequeueerik, maybe one day now, heh02:02
EchoBinaryso i shouldnt hold off setting things up for fear of having to reinstall in a few days02:02
eyequeueWed May 31 00:02:45 UTC 200602:02
KholerabbiBut its still bugy?02:02
EchoBinarynice :) thanks!02:02
baconbaconEchoBinary: you still need to dist-upgrade at some point02:02
baconbaconjust a reminder02:03
EchoBinary*nod*02:03
eyequeueKholerabbi, it's still changing, buggy is a "hope not" thing by now02:03
zerook02:03
Kholerabbihmm, I can wait a few days.02:03
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zeroi suck02:03
rexykikyup02:03
zeroanother n00b question02:03
zerohow do i open nautilus with the adress field?02:03
bimberizero: CTRL-L ?02:04
rexykiki'm getting the following error "  Could not compile gcc-version-check.c.  Please be sure you have your02:04
rexykik  distribution's libc development package installed and that 'cc' is a valid C02:04
rexykik  compiler name.02:04
rexykikack sorry02:04
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paradizelostdapper is here now?02:05
Jimmey__rexykik, did you "sudo apt-get install build-essential"#?02:05
Jimmey__paradizelost: tomorrow..02:05
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bimberiparadizelost: june 102:05
rexykikwhat is it02:05
rexykikbuild-essential02:05
eyequeueparadizelost, release is in june02:05
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Jimmey__rexykik: it's the packages you'll need to compile things02:05
rexykikokay02:05
rexykikthanks much02:05
rexykikno i havent02:05
paradizelostthe topic for the other room said ubuntu+1 is edgy eft02:06
paradizelostnm misread it02:06
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eyequeuei'm hoping it's 00:00 june 1, not 23:59 june 1 :)02:07
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rexykikThe Linux 2.602:08
rexykik  kernel module loader rejects kernel modules built with a version of gcc that02:08
rexykik  does not exactly match that of the compiler used to build the running02:08
rexykik  kernel.  The compiler used to compile the kernel was gcc 3.4; the current02:08
rexykik  compiler is gcc 4.0.02:08
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rexykikknow how to change it to use 3.4?02:08
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rexykiki have 3.4 installed02:08
rexykikand 4 base02:08
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axhuh, so jackd depends on libjack0.80 but libjack0.80 depends on jackd02:09
axwhat do i do?02:09
roaetI just logged into my ubuntu box after many months of leaving it be and my resolution is unbearably small. :(02:09
astriskJimmey__, did u have any idea what he told in that document?02:09
JaakHow come totem doesnt play my DVD's?02:09
bimberi!dvd02:09
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)02:09
JaakIt says I still need a plugin02:09
rexykikroaet, change your xorg.conf02:09
_jasonrexykik: export CC=gcc-3.4        <-- that command should make it use version 3.4 of gcc02:09
roaetwait, it's working now.02:10
rexykikthanks much jason02:10
roaetJust needed a reboot.. wtfrog02:10
roaetsometimes things just don't make sense.02:10
rexykikwhat is the kernel source path for ubuntu?02:10
SilencerI think that update to 6.06 over CDrom is not possible ;(02:10
astriskJimmey__, did u have any idea what he told in that document?02:10
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baconbaconNot with the live cd unfortunately02:11
kspatheyequeue: Timezone?02:11
eyequeuekspath, i use UTC here, why?  oh, release?  i'd presume universal, but i don't know02:12
kspatheyequeue: regarding release of dapper...02:12
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kspatheyequeue: I am guessing UTC as well02:12
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rexykikwhat is the kernel source path for ubuntu?02:12
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eyequeuekspath, meetings tend to be stated in utc, i just considered it the default02:12
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kspatheyequeue: Makes very very good sense.02:12
crimsunrexykik: why do you need /source/ instead of /headers/?02:12
eyequeuerexykik, look in /usr/src/ for the tarball from linux-source-* packages02:13
leboffany help with dmraid here?02:13
eyequeuerexykik, meaning you can unpack it to any obscure corner you prefer ;)02:13
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rexykikthere is nothing is /usr/src02:16
phidauxok, I'm gettin no love... so I've gotta ask (noob alert) is it even possible to get the latest build of firefox to work on ubuntu? I've read a bunch of wikis and followed 'em with no luck, it's still crashing on load.02:16
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rexykikdoes it need to be on the cd?02:17
rexykikor02:17
rexykikis it on the cd?02:17
Flannel!tell phidaux about ff1.502:17
Flannelphidaux: you try that one?02:17
kbrosnanphidaux, if you are having that much trouble with installing firefox for breezey you might be better off wating a few days for dapper to be final and apt-get dist-upgrade which will get you firefox 1.502:17
dmbtphidaux: you can just install the plain vanilla firefox 1.502:18
dmbtfrom mozilla.org02:18
dmbtjust download the linux tarball02:18
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dmbtand run it02:18
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Jaakok i got libdvdcss2 installed still can't display dvd's. Totem does support DVD-video right?02:19
kbrooksum.02:19
phidauxgroovy, thanks... guess it's time to cool my jets for a while.02:19
eyequeuerexykik, apt-get instal linux-source-2.6.15 or whatever should unpack it there, but as crimsun said, why not use linux-headers-* instead?02:20
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kbrooksok. please tell me if i should write a gui interface to grub02:20
dmbtkbrooks: you could if you want02:20
rexykiki need source files to compile nvidia drivers02:20
eyequeue!nvidia02:20
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia02:20
kbrooksdmbt: should as in is a existing interface SORELY lacking?02:21
PetrolBombJimmey you there?02:21
dmbtwell, other distros have some GUIS in there installers that config it02:21
kbrooksdmbt: a program *smack* *smackie*02:21
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EricNeonhi all~02:22
dmbti don't think one existst hen02:22
Dreamgliderdamn, someone repeat that link for me, my screen history is so short02:22
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Jaak!dvd02:22
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)02:22
kbrooksdmbt: so... would you liyke to give it a name?02:23
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kbrooksdmbt: no need to be02:23
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orbingrubber02:24
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kbrooksorbin: thats nice :-)02:24
orbinbe sure to give me credit :)02:24
dmbtguibber02:25
kbrooksorbin: sure, i will.02:25
ReleaseXanyone here using k9copy to backup dvds?02:25
kbrooksorbin: #grubber02:25
kbrooksanyone else: #grubber02:25
orbinheh02:26
eyequeueis that like telling your dog to go bury dvds in the back yard? ;)02:26
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lancehello02:26
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axhow do ubuntu people make it so that hid devices that are plugged in have group/user setting set in a particular way?02:31
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nickrudax, they are controlled by the scripts & settings in /etc/udev02:32
axso there isn't a gui app for that?02:32
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nickrudax, no, it's supposed to be transparent so you don't need to configure02:33
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Hexidigital_wow... awefully quiet in here... everyone out partying, getting ready for the Dapper release?02:33
eyequeuelast minute bugsquashing?02:33
nickrudHexidigital_, good question.02:33
jainor fixing bugs ;-)02:33
nickruda big number of bugs02:33
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jainfor example my ati card driver broke down after last update02:34
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nickrudI will never be able to run a 686 kernel. Or, until I replace my modem. Oh well.02:35
axnickrud: transparent? when i plug the device in the group is root, and it is set rw-rw----02:35
nickrudax, then that is a bug. You should be in the group plugdev, and it should allow you to plug in devices02:35
Draslahey, is there anyway I could set security parameters on a folder such that it can't be deleted or renamed, but people are allowed full access to modify it's contents?02:36
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nickrudDrasla, man chattr. I'm not up on that much, but it's how you set a directory immutable02:37
Draslak.  thanks.02:37
DarkTowerif you have security=share on samba, can you set a password for specific folders?02:38
nickrudDrasla, I use that to put things on peoples desktops and prevent them from deleting them. I learned just enough for that. There are more options available tht I never learned02:38
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dbrockwhen is the ETA for Dapper?02:42
gnomefreakdbrock: june 1st02:42
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dbrock(this must really be an FAQ, sorry)02:42
nickruddbrock, your time minus june first02:42
dbrockgnomefreak: oh, cool!02:42
BioVorEjune first EST?02:42
BioVorE;-P02:42
gnomefreak!dapper02:42
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then02:42
dbrocknickrud: hmm, I don't get that one02:42
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BioVorE1:43 in the morning in london02:43
nickruddbrock, bad read of the question. I'm gonna be netless june 102:43
gnomefreaksorry thought that still said when the release is02:43
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DarkTowerwill dapper be available at midnight tonight?02:44
PMantisHow can I tel if Dapper will support the Intel ICH7R RAID controler? I need to buy a new server.02:44
BioVorEno... ICH7R is sucky software raid02:44
gnomefreakDarkTower: the rc will be02:44
majd!java02:44
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs02:44
Lt-Elmohmm if i have rc2 install will i have to reinstall?02:44
gnomefreakthe rc is out now too ;)02:44
BioVorEno02:44
BioVorE.. just apt-get update..02:44
Lt-Elmow00t02:44
gnomefreakLt-Elmo: you wont have rc202:44
PMantisBioVorE, *software* RAID??02:44
Lt-Elmonew user02:44
DarkTowergnomefreak: rc? i thought the full version is released hune 1?02:44
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PMantisBioVorE, It's a hardwre chip.02:44
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gnomefreakLt-Elmo: just do your updates02:45
Lt-Elmogotcha02:45
BioVorEthe OS handles the Raid chuck summing and stuff02:45
gnomefreakDarkTower: it is today is only the 30th of may here02:45
Lt-Elmoi am trying to dump the microsoft shit02:45
BioVorEa Read raid is expensive.. $500 or more02:45
BioVorE(real)02:45
DarkTowergnomefreak: ooo k, 31st here02:45
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DarkTowergnomefreak: i guess they dont mean aussie time lol?02:45
gnomefreakDarkTower: it will be uploaded during the day on 1st london time iirc02:46
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gnomefreakUTC is the time zone i think02:46
DarkTowergnomefreak: thanks02:46
Jaakhow come wine is displaying fonts very smal (unreadable), Can it have anything to do with ati drivers?02:46
Lt-Elmoplaying between kde and gnome to learn which is more noob friendly02:46
odin_two questions02:46
odin_question the first:02:46
BioVorEPMantis: http://linux-ata.org/faq-sata-raid.html#ich02:46
DarkTowerLt-Elmo: gnome i would say02:46
odin_where are ubuntu's kernel sources located, or does it not come with any?02:47
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BioVorEodin_: you need to apt-get it02:47
odin_very good02:47
leboffspeaking of fakeraid.  can anyone in here help out with dmraid? if so please pm me.02:47
odin_next question02:47
odin_does make not come standard with ubuntu?02:47
tuxtheslackeranyone have a creative instant webcam?02:47
tuxtheslackercan anyone help me make it not freeze my computer?02:47
gnomefreakodin_: no you have to install it i would install build-essential02:47
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eyequeueodin_, sudo apt-get install build-essential, for such02:48
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orbinodin_: it's on the disc.  just not installed iirc.  grab build-essential02:48
odin_in that case, is there something else you can use in make's place?02:48
eyequeueodin_, sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-2.6.15 or whatever, if you want it, as most don't02:48
odin_the problem is my friend's ubuntu does not have access to the net02:48
shawnlis the flash plug-in for mozilla available in the apt source for dapper?02:48
odin_and he's trying to install a driver for his modem so he can connect to the net02:49
gnomefreakodin_: build-essential has all tools for your building needs (most if not all)02:49
tuxtheslackeranyone in here good with webcams?02:49
varsendaggrhey how do i edit my gnome menues   as in what launches what02:49
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odin_gnomefreak:  but I can't get build-essential without the net, can I?02:49
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gnomefreakodin_: its on the disk02:49
odin_gnomefreak: oh, okay02:49
PMantisBioVorE, OK, thanks! The part that's confusing, is that if RAID is "provided by the BIOS on the card", then how is that considered to be "Software" RAID?02:49
BioVorEodin_: apt-get install build-essential02:50
shawnlis the flash plug-in for mozilla available in the apt source for dapper?02:50
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BioVorEPMantis: the raid controller is just a sata controller with a special driver in windows that writes in stripes.. the bios just handles getting the raid array readable by the bios to load the OS02:50
wsjuniorhow do i configure my touchpad?02:51
nickrudcheckinstall is evil, but debhelper is hard ;(02:51
BioVorEdebhelper take a bit to get use to..  Its a system. If you follow it, it works nice.02:51
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PMantisBioVorE, Gotcha02:51
shawnlwsjunior: is it synapstics?02:51
jameygwsjunior, try  here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo02:52
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wsjuniorshawnl, yes02:52
jameygshawnl, sorry asking first was probably better :P02:52
nickrudBioVorE, I want easy deb builds, so I just use them. Thankfully.02:52
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BioVorEnickrud: rgr thats what I do..02:52
BioVorEnickrud: beat it untill it works..02:53
nickrudheh02:53
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nickrudSomeday I will build a package, and then I'll hide it.02:53
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shawnljameyg: it's ok02:53
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crimsunnickrud: dh is pretty straightforward02:54
BioVorEnickrud: I build personal debs for my self..  I getting sick of compiling mplayer and friends over and over again.. so I made my own debs of it02:54
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crimsunnickrud: "simple" would be, say, cdbs.02:54
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odin_is it also possible to get kernel source 2.6.16 without connection to the net?02:55
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BioVorEyeah.. download it and burn it to a disk02:55
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nickrudcrimsun, that one I played with once. But much more graceful package builders exist. It was a fun learning experience though02:55
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odin_BioVorE: ehh, wouldn't that take too long?02:56
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BioVorEor put it on a flashdrive02:56
BioVorEjust have to get the .deb or .tar.* file to the other machine02:57
nickrudSince I'm about to use another release, thanks to all02:57
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Noah0504What editor does everyone recommend for programming in Python?02:59
KyralVim?02:59
nickrudVim?02:59
MarcNNoah0504: emacs?02:59
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Kyral!editorwar02:59
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kyral02:59
Kyrallol02:59
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nickrud!editor wars02:59
ubotunickrud: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:59
CodeWarrior_hello folks, Im using Dapper on an Athlon64 3000+ (@2.0GHz), using packed generic AMD64 kernel. My doubt is: why the /proc/cpuinfo show me just a 1000Mhz machine and just 2000 bogomips ? any tip ?02:59
Noah0504hehe, I heard those were two of the most popular.02:59
nickrudthat one existed once02:59
habenixwhat is a reliable and fast network file system with kernel root fs support?03:00
morgani have mounted a vfat partition in fstab with umask=000 but the strange things is that some of the directorys are write protected and some not. what is the problem?03:00
tuxtheslackerThis is really ticking me off...03:01
WhatTheDeuceHey.  Sound doesn't work in flash for me.  It plays fine for everything else03:02
tuxtheslackerdmesg says it finds this effing thing, and then when I use it, it hangs.03:02
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nickrudWhatTheDeuce, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats has a section on flash sound, have you checked that out?03:03
T-CANis there any way to get rid of the "synronizing clock to ntp://server.ubuntu.com" step during bootup?03:03
CodeWarrior_anybody knows about the MHz problem /;03:03
CodeWarrior_?03:03
odin_what MHz problem>?03:04
MarcNT-CAN: disable the ntpd service?  You don't like you clock accurate?03:04
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T-CANwell, my bootup always stalls on that step03:05
[zero] Hey anyone around, im having some trouble with installing ubuntu if anyone is avalible to help?03:05
T-CANand i have to wait for like 5 minutes for it to skip that step03:05
MarcNT-CAN: it will eventually timeout.  You don't have a network up?03:05
nickrudT-CAN, are you on the net when you boot?03:05
WhoopsWhere is best place for Totem Player codecs ?03:05
VerithraxSo, big day tomorrow.03:05
T-CANwell, i did have one up and i thought it was working03:06
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T-CANbut i checked and i guess it wasnt03:06
nickrudWhoops, install totem-xine, and look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats under Windows Codecs03:06
MarcNT-CAN: then temporarily disable that daemon.03:06
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T-CANhow?03:06
WhatTheDeucenickrud: Thanks.  I'll try thast03:06
WhatTheDeucethat*03:06
Whoopsthanks Nickrud03:06
MarcNT-CAN: system->admin->services03:06
MarcNT-CAN: maybe not there...03:07
nickrudT-CAN, what are you running, dapper or breezy?03:07
T-CANbreezy03:07
T-CAN5.1003:07
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SurfnKidhey I installed the codecs and I still cant play a WMV under totem03:08
[zero] I just installed ubuntu but when I boot up it gets to the "Preparing for installation..." and has stayed on 0% for a while :?03:08
SurfnKidmaybe DRM is embedded in it?03:08
nickrudWhatTheDeuce, no promises, it's worked for a lot of people though03:08
SurfnKidhow can i check03:08
nuggie_I'm on breezy, and the printer works, but I can't set differetn modes (B&W draft photo quality etc) it did work with cups before with KDE on debian03:08
T-CANzero, how long is a while?03:08
[zero] 5mins03:08
[zero] maybe longer03:08
nuggie_hmm worked tihs time03:08
SurfnKidthat is a while03:08
nickrudnuggie_, gnome's interface to cups totally sucks.03:08
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MarcNT-CAN: apt-get remove ntp-server (or whatever it is called in breezy) ;      use dpkg --list|grep ntp to find what is installed03:09
nuggie_nickrud: apparently03:09
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nickrudnuggie_, I tend to write ps files & use gtklp for control of the printer03:09
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nuggie_it seems to work now03:09
nickrudnuggie_, for things that can't control the printer properly03:09
T-CANalright, ill give that a try thanks03:09
T-CANi saw somewhere that there was like a bootup manager?03:09
T-CANbut maybe not for breezy03:09
nuggie_works great now03:10
nuggie_draft is important to me03:10
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nuggie_quite impressed iwth how easily ubuntu got running03:10
nickrudT-CAN, edit /etc/defaults/ntpdate ; comment out all time servers03:10
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Bimmerman1911please! i have mounted at vfat partiton in fstab and usd umask=000, why does some of the directorys in the mount are not writable?03:11
T-CANso like: sudo gedit /etc/defaults/ntpdate?03:11
nickrudnuggie_, I use gtklp to set the printer for draft mode as a default, most gnome apps respect that03:11
T-CANdidnt give them permission03:11
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nuggie_nickrud: the pritner setup works fine03:12
nuggie_I'm satisfied03:12
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nickrudT-CAN, gksudo "/etc/defaults/ntpdate"03:12
[zero] I dont think Ubuntu likes me03:12
nickrudnuggie_, I'm not satisfied, it needs to be better03:12
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Bimmerman1911doesent umask=000 give full permission?????03:12
T-CANBimmer, what did you edit in fstab?03:12
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T-CANi dont think so03:12
MarcNBimmerman1911: no permissions.03:13
T-CAN777 maybe?03:13
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MarcNBimmerman1911: try 666 (not 777)03:13
jameyg[zero] , maybe it just doesn't like your hardware =)03:13
Bimmerman1911MarcN, so what umask should i use, i want full right for everybody03:13
nickrud[zero] , ubuntu loves you, but can be demanding :)03:13
nuggie_nickrud: so far it works properly for me, I'll stress test it later. It was much better than it used to be03:13
T-CANwhoops03:13
cato_hey , i am new with linux i got problems instaling programs, trying to instal mplayer on ubuntu, can anyone help me03:13
jameygcato_, what's exactly is the problem?03:13
[zero] haha it probly doesnt like this hardware03:14
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Bimmerman1911MarcN, il try 66603:14
MarcNBimmerman1911: you just mounting a FAT32 partition?03:14
T-CANzero, what are you running?03:14
terry_hi I new user in ubuntu I am install gcc but it not work for sinaptyc when I was execute g++ x.cc it doesnt work03:14
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cato_not sure what to do with the packeges after i download them03:14
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nickrudnuggie_, I can remember using kprinter for everything. I am not a kde fan, but darn, they got that right03:14
nuggie_cato_: just sudo synaptic to install03:14
[zero] well the one im trying to install it on is some old stuff :/ pentium 303:14
Flannelcato_: you don'tactually manually download the packages.  Well, you can, but there's an easier way.03:14
[zero] duno the exact specs03:14
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MarcNterry_: install g++ for the C++ compiler.  gcc is the C compiler only03:15
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nuggie_nickrud: yeah, before ubuntu I was using mostly kde03:15
nosklo[zero] , should work03:15
T-CANzero, i run it on a pentiumII MMX03:15
T-CANyou should be fine03:15
[zero] Ill reinstall it all again then03:15
Healot"build-essential" includes gcc and g++03:15
cato_whats the easy way03:15
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drew989Could i get some help for installing software (i'm a complete Linux newbie)03:15
Flannelcato_: to have the package managers download them for you.03:15
nickruddrew989, what software?03:16
leboffi've got the drives created by dmraid in /dev/mapper but they won't mount, can anyone help?03:16
MarcNdrew989: use either synaptic or the command line apt-get command.  Never have to manually download .deb files.03:16
drew989well mostly anything that will play mp3s avis etc...03:16
eyequeuedrew989, sudo apt-get install packagename, or dpkg -i foo.deb03:16
SurfnKidhey guys how do i know that i got the WMV codec installed03:16
cato_is that the synaptic?03:16
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Flannelcato_: syanptic is a GUI frontend to apt, but yes, synaptic will work03:16
SurfnKidcan i do like lscodec or something03:16
nickruddrew989, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Start at the top, work your way down. That will get that non-free media stuff working03:17
squigglythats what sucks03:17
odin_okay, when my friend does sudo apt-get install build-essential, he gets "E: Couldn't find package build-essential"03:17
drew989Thanks tons03:17
drew989!!!!03:17
ubotudrew989: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:17
squigglyi have a ton of real media movies, and now i can't watch it03:17
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odin_are you sure you don't need to be connected to the net to get it03:18
Milk_got an odd question03:18
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UzzaDeadto get what?03:18
Bimmerman1911MarcN, i tried umask=666 but that didnt give me any rights att all!?03:18
odin_UzzaDead: build-essential03:18
UzzaDeadno clue..03:18
UzzaDeadi cant even get my wifi going which is why im here...03:18
T-CANubotu tell T-CAN about CLI03:19
terry_thanks...03:19
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eyequeueBimmerman1911, remember umask in an inverse to chmod03:19
Flannelsquiggly: have you gone through the Howtos?03:19
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eyequeueubotu, umask03:19
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eyequeue03:19
cato_flannel_: how do i make the it download it for me03:19
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T-CANBimmer, code is 77703:19
T-CANwait, are you in breezy?03:19
Flannelcato_: via synaptic?  if you have it marked to "install" it will first download, then install the package03:19
Bimmerman1911T-CAN, so umask=777 will give me full rights?03:20
squigglyyes Flannel03:20
squigglyThey just won't open >_<03:20
odin_can you or can you not apt-get install build-essential without a net connection?03:20
SurfnKid-_-03:20
T-CAN777 will give you no restrictions03:20
squigglywhen they do, they don't play03:20
T-CAN775 will give you RWE03:20
cato_flannel_: i dont see the mplayer on the list ?03:20
T-CANfor owner03:20
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hyphenatedT-CAN: he's asking about umask, which is the complete opposite03:21
wimsso.... Dapper release is tomorrow ?03:21
odin_wims:  ooo, is it stable now?03:21
eyequeueThus, a umask of 022 results in permissions of 755Thus, a umaThus, a umask of 022 results in permissions of 755sk of 022 results in permissions of 75503:21
Flannelcato_: mplayer is in multiverse03:21
Flannel!tell cato_ about repositories03:21
crimsunwims: 1 june03:21
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crimsunwims: so for some $tz, yes03:21
wimsodin_,  i dunno, i only heard june 103:21
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wimsand that's tomorrow isn't it03:21
eyequeueBimmerman1911, remember umask in an inverse to chmod03:21
odin_wims:  nope, the next day, 31 days in May03:22
wimsodin_,  i'm in europe03:22
wimsit's 31th here03:22
odin_wims: well, that makes since now doesn't it :)03:22
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eyequeueBimmerman1911, here's a url: http://www.ss64.com/bash/umask.html03:22
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VerithraxBy the way, how will the Dapper release be announced?03:23
odin_Verithrax:  pro'lly over the auto-update03:23
FlannelVerithrax: there will be a listserv announcement03:23
eyequeueVerithrax, the servers will all slow to a crawl03:23
Flannelheh, everyone should get bittorrent ready ;)03:24
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eyequeuethe only change still pending, i hope, is ubuntu-artwork03:24
wimsdo you think apt repositories will be overloaded ?03:24
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cato_flannel_: i saw the info now :)03:24
odin_Flannel:  the few times I've tried bittorrent, it seemed much slower than normal downloads03:24
cato_flannel_: thx03:24
Bimmerman1911now i tried both umask=777 and umask=666 and both give me no rights att all!?03:24
wimshow wide is their bandwidth, is it possible to somehow find out about that ?03:24
eyequeueBimmerman1911, here's a url: http://www.ss64.com/bash/umask.html03:25
eyequeueBimmerman1911, remember umask in an inverse to chmod03:25
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Flannelodin_: it is slower than straight downloads.  Well, if you have a fast server.  But, tomorrow the mirrors will die.03:25
HealotBimmerman1911: umask=777 will give 000 :)03:25
Sin_Salida.03:25
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Bimmerman1911eyequeue, yes, but im kind of a newbie so i dont even know what chmod is03:25
Healoteven root can't access that03:25
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eyequeueBimmerman1911, someone earlier was giving bad advice, read the url :)03:25
Bimmerman1911So it should be umask=000??03:26
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crimsuneyequeue: artwork is final already as of this morning (~13 hours ago)03:26
eyequeueBimmerman1911, again,  read the url :)03:26
Healot777 world-writable, nuts?03:26
Healot022 is enough03:26
eyequeuecrimsun, cool, then we truly are down to the last stretch :)03:26
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eyequeueBimmerman1911, two people in here have contradicted each other, i'd suggest relying on an outside authority :)03:27
nickrudcrimsun, great. Are there some truly outstanding bugs left we should be aware of?03:27
InazadHi there, I need help ?%03:27
Healotask, Inazad03:28
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eyequeuecrimsun, that thunderbird-quickfile shocked me, i'll admit :)03:28
[zero] you know the only problem with the instalation with ubuntu?03:28
[zero] I cant sleep while its doing it03:28
crimsunnickrud: yes, there's a one in sixteen billion chance your computer will explode when dist-upgrading to dapper. But then again, I'll get to use your bandwidth, so I win.03:28
Bimmerman1911the funny thing with linux is that to do the most common and loical thing that most people would want to do is the hardest to do and nobody knows how to do it03:28
Bimmerman1911i just want to be able to use my vfat partition03:28
nickrudcrimsun, if that happens, your're welcome to it :)03:28
InazadHealot, I have an old Sharp Palm and it work by the COM' port.. How I can detect the port because the program (emulated by wine) doesn't found the port COM...03:28
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odin_Bimmerman1911:  but the opposite works too, doing the hardest thing is the easiest :P03:29
eyequeue[zero] , you can do the sudo apt-get -d dist-upgrade while you sleep., then go offline and do it without the -d when you awaken03:29
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HealotWINE question should be ask in #wine, Inazad... anyway not familiar with WINE nor supporting it03:29
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Bimmerman1911umask=000 works but some folders on the vfat partition it has now write rights... how can this be?03:29
T-CANBimmer, have you tried    chmod 666 filename03:29
nickrudcrimsun, but thanks again, I appreciate not having to use windows, or fedora :)03:29
Bimmerman1911shouldnt umask controll everything on the partition alike?03:30
FarrisGhttp://gentlenews.com/theshow  <--- live in 2 minutes03:30
Healotbtw, can you detect hardware using other Linux application, Inazad?03:30
InazadHealot, ya but Linux doesn't detect the COM' port ...03:30
crimsunnickrud: thank yourselves, the community arguably makes Ubuntu more than the developers03:30
InazadHealot, wich applications use a COM port ?03:30
InazadHealot, loll03:30
[zero] Humm I think I know why it didnt work :/03:30
T-CANBimmer, maybe it only applies it to files in the directory, not other directories themselves03:30
T-CANzero, has it moves yet?03:31
Inazad[zero] , are u talking to me ?03:31
Bimmerman1911T-CAN, but some folders are wriatble, it seams totally randow03:31
[zero] Unable to install initrd-tools03:31
HealotInazad: do you know the port for tht COM in windows? COM1/2/3 etc?03:31
[zero] im kinda talking to myself :/03:31
T-CANhuh03:31
nickrudcrimsun, now that is a <delete> rediculous statement. Sure, us users can encourage, scold, wish, etc. We will never do the work.03:31
InazadHealot, I think it's COM 103:31
[zero] t-can i started the installation again03:31
T-CANBimmer, do you have your drive to automount03:31
[zero] like fromt the start03:31
T-CAN:(03:32
HealotInazad: what device name did you use to detect hardware connected to that COM in linux?03:32
[zero] but there was an error03:32
T-CANi remember my install took a while03:32
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InazadHealot, device name %?03:32
zanthis this channel dd help? or is that +1?03:32
pectissimoBimmerman1911:  umask is what specifies the default permissions of newly created files.  Files with attributes already set remain with those attributes until changed.03:32
Bimmerman1911T-CAN,  in fstab i have vfat    rw,users,iocharset=utf8,umask=00003:32
Healotsomething like this, Inazad, /dev/ttyS0/1/2?03:32
eyequeueZambezi, breezy for another day, then it becomes dapper here03:32
zanththanks03:32
InazadHealot, hmm I'm noob to Linux so.. I think yes03:33
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Bimmerman1911pectissimo, so if i want all files to be full acess what do i put in fstab?03:33
[zero] Im gonner get this beast running someday :D03:33
Healotwhich one was it? /dev/ttySX? where X is a round number 0,1,2? Inazad03:33
petrikOk so I am really starting to think I may be dumb after all. Can someone talk me through sharing a folder and getting another ubuntu PC to see it on the LAN?03:33
pectissimoBimmerman1911:  Well, I'd make sure you have, "rw" in the options field.03:33
InazadHealot, If I use the port COM 1 in windows, I think is ttyS103:34
T-CANya zero, its def. worth it03:34
Healotif your COM port was COM1 in Windows... it should be /dev/ttyS0 in Linux... Inazad, not ttyS103:34
Bimmerman1911pectissimo, i have, in fstab is says vfat    rw,users,iocharset=utf8,umask=00003:34
eyequeueBimmerman1911, before you go forward with that, you genuinely want not only the owner, not only the group, but ALL comers, including those hacked into your box to have COMPLETE access?  you've asked for thos a few times, but none have questioned you yet03:34
dblpdgnomefreak: ok it just finished installing and i ran the install banshee-daap command03:34
InazadHealot, ok03:34
eyequeueBimmerman1911, that's typically a very uncommon (unwise) security choice03:35
pectissimoBimmerman1911:  Oh, I see, you already do.  So test it out.  Mount it and create a file and check the perms.  Just make sure you are writing to a directory that has permissions which allow it.03:35
HealotInazad: os I guess you got the wrong port :)03:35
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Bimmerman1911eyequeue, i dont care about security i just want to use my partition! :) haha03:35
InazadHealot, I think I have to put a symbolic link in my wine/dosdevices...03:35
InazadHealot, I'll try03:35
Healotyup, sure Inazad03:36
Bimmerman1911is it ony me that is interessted to write to my harddrive03:36
T-CANwhat do you mean you cant "use" it?03:36
eyequeueBimmerman1911, WE care about security if it's your zombie box used to attack the rest of the net03:36
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HealotBimmerman1911: then, umask=000 would do in your condition :)03:36
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habenixis NFSv4 in dapper kernel yet?03:36
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Zambezieyequeue: I thought so. I tried Dapper today, but only serverrelease.03:36
Bimmerman1911Healot, i should but it doesent03:36
BioVorEhabenix: I think brezzy had it03:36
InazadHealot, or maybe it's COM2???03:37
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pectissimodarn satellite connection :-)03:37
HealotInazad: if your Windows says so, then it's /dev/ttyS1 (COM2)03:37
eyequeuei'd go so far to say chmod 000 is appriate for those who choose no security03:37
Bimmerman1911eyequeue, what does that have to do with having rights to my vfat partition?03:37
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InazadHealot, How many COM port we have ?03:38
Inazad3-4 ?03:38
Bimmerman1911eyequeue, could i put chmod=000 in fstab?03:38
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Healoti don't know your PC, Inazad03:38
eyequeueBimmerman1911, you appear to be asking to grant read/write/execute/delete access to the universe03:38
telacheI'm trying to get a Netgear PCI wifi card to work.  Any suggestions?  It's not showing up as a device,03:38
HealotI only have one COM... Inazad, hence on /dev/ttyS0 (COM1)03:38
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eyequeueBimmerman1911, my "chmod 000" was not advice, it was hyperbole, it would grant you zero permission to your box, you really doesn't want that03:38
Arasthene^^03:39
Bimmerman1911eyequeue, so chmod=777?03:39
InazadHealot, When I click on AutoDetect in my program, my palm is open and it said Communicating... when I click so the port and my palm can communicate03:39
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pectissimoBimmerman1911:  umask=000 is equivalent to having the default attributes on newly created files set to mode 777.  You want, "umask=000" in your fstab, not chmod.03:40
Healotcan you do anything with you Palm device, Inazad, did it say connecteD?03:40
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eyequeueBimmerman1911, i'm not contributing to your making your box a zombie platform.  but no, chmod is not something you would put in /etc/fstab, only things in "man 8 mount" or "man 5 fstab" go in there, ignore the chmod comment please03:40
Bimmerman1911eyequeue, ok, for security sake... if i wish to give full rights to a user, what do i put in fstab?03:40
habenixAnd one more thing: Is it better to run the i386 version of Linux/Xen on a Xeon or the iA64 version?03:40
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Bimmerman1911pectissimo, i have umask=000 but it doesent giv me full rights to some directorys03:40
eyequeueBimmerman1911, 022 is a common umask03:40
Bimmerman1911eyequeue, and 022 gives write rights to whom?03:41
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eyequeueBimmerman1911, owner03:41
shriphaniguys need serious help03:41
shriphanignome failed to load twice03:41
shriphaniand it doesnt load even now03:42
Bimmerman1911eyequeue, and the owner is root, so how do specify owner in fstab?03:42
eyequeueBimmerman1911, have you yet read: http://www.ss64.com/bash/umask.html03:42
telacheSomething is wrong with my apt-get it keeps outputting "Segmentation faulty tree... 50%" when I try to install something.03:42
shriphanipeople someone help me gnome failed to load03:42
pectissimoBimmerman1911:  umask sets the default permissions for --->  NEWLY CREATED <-- files, not existing ones!  So, to answer you question, some directories apparently have permissions that disallow you to create files in them.03:42
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shriphaniman can anyone help me i left my system on for a while so that it could update and after installing the updates gnome failed to load03:43
Bimmerman1911pectissimo, and if i use chmod does that effekt old and new files?03:43
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shriphanisomeone help!!!!!03:43
pectissimoBimmerman1911:  Yes.03:43
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ctothejhey , my kubuntu dapper installer keeps hanging on me. is there anything i can do? im on the live cd now, performing the install from here03:43
eyequeuechmod -R affects what already exists, not what isn't imagined yet03:44
unkn0wn2ushriphani, your at a 10 i need you at a 403:44
shriphanihuh03:44
Bimmerman1911pectissimo, so chmod=777 it is then03:44
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shriphanii didnt understand unkn0wn2u03:44
eyequeueumode effects what isn't imagined yet, not what already exists03:44
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unkn0wn2ushriphani, hit ctrl alt f103:44
shriphanidone03:45
eyequeueagain, chmod is NOT a mount(9) nor fstab(5) option03:45
unkn0wn2ushriphani, login03:45
shriphaninothing happens03:45
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eyequeuemount(8) rather03:45
pectissimoBimmerman1911:  Sorry about my flaky satellite connection!  It's a struggle to even stay connected is seems!03:45
nickrudeyequeue, heh. not imagined yet. Do you have any advice for auto matically creating permissions on new dirs in a dir that is supposed to be shared between certain users?03:45
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ubuntuHi, I was wondering how I change the video resolution in ubuntu, I just booted up on the live cd and it wont allow me to go above 640x480@6003:45
shriphanithe screen doent appear03:45
tiandoes anyone knows how to make Cannon mp130 printer working with usb?03:45
unkn0wn2ushriphani, ya it sounds like your xserver crashed so reboot and load the safe mode03:46
shriphanionly the original black screen does03:46
Flannel!tell ubuntu about resolution03:46
shriphanihow ?03:46
Flannelubuntu: read the pm from ubotu03:46
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eyequeuenickrud, hmmm, i'll ponder a bit.  the "sticky bit" (of /tmp typically) might be useful offhand03:46
nefelimhello; how can i point my system to use the newest jre version i installed? thanks03:46
nickrudubuntu, most likely your monitor refresh rates were not recognized03:46
rixxonNOW i see why people come here with the nick ubuntu03:46
shriphanii mean i am new to this so this will not help me at all03:46
rixxondefault livecd login :P03:46
Bimmerman1911how does this sound vfat    rw,iocharset=utf8,chmod=777?03:46
ubuntusystem>preferences>screen resolution will not allow me to select anything else other than 640x480@60hz03:46
dblpdgnomefreak: are you still around?03:46
shriphaniwhat is the safe mode?03:46
ubuntunickrun: so what do I need to do to change that?03:46
pectissimoBimmerman1911:  Nope!03:46
shriphanithe recovery mode ?03:46
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Bimmerman1911pectissimo, why?03:47
unkn0wn2ushriphani, ya03:47
ChrisDhello all03:47
eyequeuenickrud, i presume a common group is already shared, if not, that's first step03:47
shriphaniok so i should do it now ?03:47
nickrudeyequeue, tried that, I'm looking at acls currently. But I haven't got my head around them yet. Let alone finding out if they give what I need03:47
unkn0wn2ushriphani, yep03:47
shriphaniwhat will happen if i do that ?03:47
ChrisDanyone care to help me get amaroK working in ubuntu 6.06?03:47
nefelimhello; how can i point my system to use the newest jre version i installed? thanks03:47
nickrudeyequeue, yes, common group done03:47
tiandoes anyone knows how to make Cannon mp130 printer working with usb?03:47
unkn0wn2ushriphani, it loads single user mode03:48
shriphaniok03:48
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shriphaniso i should be getting gnome there ?03:48
Lup1nIIIhello03:48
pectissimoBimmerman1911:  chmod is not a legal option for fstab.  Use umask.03:48
nickrudeyequeue, I can always change the perms as needed, I'm trying to automate perms on new dirs.03:48
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nefelimhello03:48
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unkn0wn2ushriphani, wow03:48
nickrudso I can sleep :)03:48
eyequeuenickrud, and 'chgrp grpname && chmod g+rwx foo/' isn't enough?03:48
Bimmerman1911pectissimo, haha, and that takes me back to step 103:48
nickrudeyequeue, no, because that requires intervention each day03:49
shriphaniunkn0wn2u: can you please tell me if i shall be able to get gnome after recovery mode03:49
Bimmerman1911pectissimo, if i put owner=xxxx and dont put any umask att all would that give any rights to xxxx?03:49
eyequeuenickrud, ah, i've made a parent dir that's chown g+s && chgrp staff, would that be similar?03:49
eyequeuenickrud, all new subdirs become group staff03:50
nickrudah.03:50
shriphaniunkn0wn2u: will it work ?03:50
pectissimoBimmerman1911:  Set up your fstab file with umask.  Then, mount it and manually change the permissions of the dir(s)/files that you need access to.03:50
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nickrudA new direction to check. I'm no unix guru, thanks eydaimon03:50
ctothejI get this error when installing dapper: "failed to create a file system". help would be much appreciated03:50
nickrudA new direction to check. I'm no unix guru, thanks eyequeue03:50
shriphaniunkn0wn2u: !!!!!!03:50
unkn0wn2ushriphani, your bugging me recovery mode is a way to fix what is wrong03:50
eyequeuenickrud, you end up "polluting" the tree with an additional subdir, but it seems to cover my needs (/var/web/sites/*)03:51
shriphaniok so how do i go about there03:51
unkn0wn2ushriphani, maybe you should just reinstall03:51
nefelimhello03:51
shriphaniwhat !!!!03:51
shriphanireinstall !!!03:51
Flannelshriphani: please, lose the exclamation points.03:51
nickrudeyequeue, it's something I haven't tried. maybe I can adapt it.03:51
shriphaniok sorry Flannel03:51
unkn0wn2ushriphani, get into recovery mode and chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm03:51
ecormierctothej: are you using the live cd03:52
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nefelimcan anyone show me the command on changing java version03:52
cato_flannel_: when i install the programs how do i find them ?03:52
shriphaniok then ?03:52
eyequeuenickrud, adduser foo webmasters, adduser bar webmasters, then ignore them if they're trusted there  :)03:52
Flannelcato_: you mean after you install them, how do you run them?03:52
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ctothejecormier: yes i am03:52
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ecormierctothej: do you know if your hard disk is sata or not?03:53
ratahi03:53
rataI am setting up a server with ubuntu dapper, and i must change locales (actually it uses utf-8, and i need iso-8859-1). I tried dpkg-reconfigure locales, check that dpkg-reconfigure debconf it is readline. Any idea ? i am not doing things well, isnt it ?03:53
ctothejecormier: yes it is sata03:53
shriphaniis that all unkn0wn2u ?03:53
ecormieruse the install cd03:53
[zero] any where I can get an older version of ubuntu?03:53
Flannelrata: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support, until the 1st.03:53
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bombyx_morihello. i just tried to install linux from a boot disc i burned. i started up the computer w/ the disc and it gave me a "missing operating system" message. anyone?03:53
Flannel[zero] : ubuntu.com has the older versions too.03:53
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unkn0wn2ushriphani, nope so just leave me alone now03:53
nickrudeyequeue, adduser foo I know, it's the perms later. But I'll create a dir, and play a bit with your suggestions. If nothing else, I'll know a bit more03:53
ecormierthe livecd installer seems to crash with sata....03:54
[zero] thankx Flannel03:54
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ecormieror it did for me03:54
rataFlannel, ok :). I already asked there, i ask here just in case. Lot of thanks anyway :)03:54
shriphanierr so reinstallation is the last draw ?03:54
eyequeuenickrud, always nice :)03:54
Flannelecormier: #ubuntu+1 for dapper stuffs03:54
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ecormierFlannel: yeah I know...tell him03:54
ctothejecormier: ohh. this is the only dapper cd available for download...03:54
ecormiernope03:54
ctothej?03:54
ecormierhold on03:54
OkitaI'm dual-booting and Windows wrecked my MBR... how can I get the nice bootloader Dapper installed for me back?03:54
eyequeuenickrud, making a dir sGid (not suid) is the basic trick i use03:55
cato_flannel_: yes03:55
Flannelrata: you might try searching the forums03:55
shriphaniok thanks for the help people03:55
OkitaHopefully I won't need to redo the grub.conf or whatever?03:55
shriphaniexit03:55
bombyx_morihas anyone else gotten a03:55
shriphaniq03:55
shriphaniquit03:55
shriphanidamn03:55
shriphanihow do i exit this03:55
rataFlannel, ok, lot of thanks again :)03:55
Flannelcato_: if they're not in the menues, you can hit ctrl-f2 and type the name of the program.  that's usually the executable03:55
spikebyou can't!03:55
spikebbwahahaha03:55
nickrudOkita, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows03:56
eyequeuebombyx_mori, two things come to mind, a bad burn (check md5?) or the drive can't handle bootable cds as configured presently in bios03:56
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eyequeuebombyx_mori2, two things come to mind, a bad burn (check md5?) or the drive can't handle bootable cds as configured presently in bios03:57
ecormierctothej: here http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/ and choose the "Alternate install CD"03:58
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zuhause01xxhello, can somebody please tell with what command i can find out my IP since i am using a router DHCP03:58
ecormierctothej: by the way ...you should be asking questions to do with dapper in the dapper channel #ubuntu+103:58
spikebzuhause01xx, ifconfig03:58
nickrudis there a particular reason for advising the alternate install cd?03:58
bombyx_mori2yeah, it might be configured wrong, but i can't figure out how to get into BIOS. all of the common keys haven't been working (f10, f11, f12 etc.)03:59
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ecormieryeah...the partitioning works for sata03:59
eyequeuezuhause01xx, local, ifconfig03:59
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ctothejecormier: oh ok thanks. the live cd is set to auto join this chan03:59
eyequeuezuhause01xx, remote, point browser to http://whatismyipaddress.com/03:59
Flannelnickrud: alternate works more places, gives more options, can setup raid, etc.  The page talks about it's uses.03:59
nickrudzuhause01xx, ipconfig | grep inet should give you your public ip03:59
bombyx_mori2i have a compaq armada 7800. is ther any other way to get into the BIOS?03:59
ecormierthis'll be the right channel in 2 days right :)04:00
eyequeuebombyx_mori, sorry that i don't know that hardware04:00
nickrudFlannel, yes, more info, more options, more errors. My experience. Are the others inferior?04:00
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ctothejwill there be many changes until then?04:00
zuhause01xxbut i thought it would be something like 192.168.... but there is nothing there that stands for it..04:00
nefelimhelo; what is tht correct syntax for update-alternatives, so i can update for my new java version?04:00
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bombyx_mori2oh ok, thanks anyway. i'll try burnning a new copy of the cd and see if that works04:00
eyequeuebombyx_mori2, on a whim, is there a channel #compaq ?04:00
ecormierseems like every 5 minutes new updates04:00
Flannelnickrud: more errors?  It's the old text-mode installer, it's solid as a rock.04:00
nickrudFlannel, user errors04:01
dmbtbobslaede: no04:01
bombyx_mori2oh, maybe. i'll check, thanks!04:01
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zuhause01xxinet addr?04:01
zuhause01xx=local04:01
ctothejnice. is it easy to upgrade?04:01
nefelimhelo; what is tht correct syntax for update-alternatives, so i can update for my new java version?04:01
ecormiernickrud: the live installer on sata left my ntfs unusable04:01
eyequeuezuhause01xx, yes04:01
Okitanickrud: Thanks, wrestling with grub now =)04:01
Flannelnickrud: server install JUST installs the server OS.  the liveCD... well, besides being a liveCD, and having to do that first, it does have some errors sometimes.  I think most are fixed now, but still, I will never use the liveCD installer.04:01
zuhause01xxcool thanks!!!!04:01
ecormierctothej: very easy...it notifies you from the task tray04:02
ctothejf'in sweet04:02
OkitaWho knows what my partition numbers are supposed to be in grub-language04:02
FlannelOkita: IDE? Sata? primary? slave? etc etc.  details!04:02
Jaakhow can i share folders with other systems (ubuntu and windows)?04:02
Flannel!tell Jaak about samba04:02
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OkitaFlannel: hda2 should be what, root (hd0,1)?04:03
Jaak!tell Jaak about samba04:03
ctothejecormier: im off to install with the alternate cd. thanks alot! ill be back after the install.04:03
nickrudFlannel, heh. I'm running off an older live cd install, with updates. I seriously want to point poeple at what works best, most often. I only run one machine so I am seriously interested in best advice04:03
ecormiercool good luck04:03
nefelimcould somebody here help me please?04:03
Flannelnickrud: shrug, I don't think the text-mode install CD is difficult, especially in basic mode.04:03
eyequeueOkita, counting starts at (hd0,0)04:03
FlannelOkita: right.04:03
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Projekt2nefelim, don't ask to ask just ask04:04
nickrudFlannel, ok. I'll just watch, and wait.04:04
nefelimbeen asking a while ago seems everyone are busy04:04
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ecormier<nefelim: question04:04
Jaakthanks for Samba, who thinks of those names!!! I they called it Windows Network Protocol or something I would have found it! =P04:05
Flannelnickrud: liveCD is good for bringing people in, since they can try it first.  But, the install CD is nice because you can install right way, don't have to wait for liveCD to boot and stuff.04:05
nefelimi got a problem with my java version how could i update it? cant seem to understand the updat-alternatives soory i'm new to linux04:05
eyequeuenickrud, though i think i missed something, i would definitely say the text-mode installers of late have been well within your abilities04:05
FlannelJaak: It's not just Windows though.  Why would they call it that?04:05
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Bonnyhiii04:06
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nickrudFlannel, and I've seen a few issues that people have had trying to install from the live cd. I had no problems (none I couldn't deal with). I want to know what to point joe blow at. Cuz 3 months from now, I'll see joe saying, why doesn't this work.04:06
ecormiernefelim: first http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_add_extra_repositories then: sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.504:06
rob138is there a way to extract the files of an .EXE installer? i know winrar can in windows, just wondering if there is an alternative to doing this in ubuntu?04:06
leboffi've got the drives created by dmraid in /dev/mapper but they won't mount, can anyone help?04:06
nickrudFlannel, but I realize you're also in my shoes :)04:07
andrejkwDapper is coming the 1st right?04:07
petrikDoes anyone know how to use the Shared folder utility in ubuntu? I'm sharing folders with all types of setting but can not see it on the filebrowser on the other pc04:07
solwhat is my $HOME drive?04:07
andrejkwrob138: cabextract04:07
solanyone know04:07
crysalishey, i'm really new to Linux so forgive this question but How can i creat desktop shortcuts..like a shortcut for my home folder or computer folder?04:07
OkitaGrub won't let me do any of my partitions, and grub-install says "[partition name ]  does not have any corresponding BIOS drive04:07
Flannelsol: ~/ or /home/[username] /04:07
MarcNsol: ~/ or usually /home/youraccountname04:07
solis it differ04:07
eyequeuerob138, you have "something" running as self-extracting app04:07
rob138eyequeue, what?04:07
ecormier<crysalis: click and drag while pressing the "alt" key gives you the link option04:07
solim getting permiss error when il logon04:07
nefelim:ecornier yeah i already installed the new java version but still my system is pointing on the old one 1.404:07
eyequeuerob138, is it an unrar app?  an unzip app?  etc?  there is most of your answer04:08
PyroMithrandirsol, no it doesn't differ ~ directs to /home/username04:08
solsaying i should set it to 644 but that locked me out04:08
spikebnefelim, type sudo update-alternatives --config java04:08
spikebnefelim, then pick the new java04:08
rob138eyequeue, it's an installer? it's neither,  andrejkw04:08
crysalisawesome!! thanks ecormier04:08
rob138's answer worked04:08
eyequeuerob138, if it's an unzip app, then infozip unzip typically ignores that and works around ity04:08
ecormier<nefelim: echo 3 | sudo update-alternatives --config java04:08
ecormiercrysalis: np04:08
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nefelimokay spike i'll try it thanks04:08
solso im afraid to chmod anymore04:08
sol:)04:08
leboffi've got the drives created by dmraid in /dev/mapper but they won't mount, can anyone help?04:09
eyequeuerob138, okay, let me ask this, with one word emphasized:  what FORMAT is the "installer" decompressing?04:09
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rob138eyequeue, couldn't tell you : ) i got it off microsoft's website04:09
PyroMithrandirsol, 644 should work. it means the owner can read and write and others can read04:09
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MarcNrob138: why are you expecting a windows exe to run on Linux?04:10
nefelimat last thanks, it works, thanks; spikeb and ecormier04:10
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eyequeuerob138, something tells me asking them might not help :)  run "file" on it yet?  (/usr/bin/file foo.exe)04:10
spikebnefelim, you're welcome :)04:10
rob138MarcN, i'm not, i'm trying to get something running in Wine04:10
nefelimtill next time :) thank you again04:10
eyequeuerob138, file may tell you wht compression format you have to decompress04:10
solit wont lock me out04:10
MarcNrob138: then use from the command line:                   wine ./whatever.exe04:10
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rob138eyequeue, i did cabextract installer.exe and it extracted it, so it worked for what i needed04:10
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solthx pyro04:10
eyequeuerob138, okay, it apparently was a "cab" :)04:11
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rob138eyequeue, yeah thanks for the help though04:11
rob138:004:11
rob138:)04:11
eyequeuerob138, sure04:11
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tatehas anyone here ever installed freeorion04:11
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nickrudno. tate. what's freeorion?04:12
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unkn0wn2uis there an inotify kernel around for breezy04:12
tatehttp://www.freeorion.org04:12
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tateIt's an open source recreation of Masters of Orion04:13
tatebut they are extending it with new features04:13
spikeboooh04:13
ecormier<tate: check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=20475204:14
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ecormier<tate: or better yet http://www.freeorion.org/index.php/User:Mvor/Ubuntu04:14
ecormiergoogles a great thing :)04:15
nickrudunkn0wn2u, the breezy kernel hs CONFIG_INOTIFY=y04:15
dblpdim new to linux. i just upgraded to dapper and now linux wont play any audio files, it just gives playback errors?04:15
tateI am having trouble with their ubuntu installation instrucitons04:15
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ecormierdblpd: use #ubuntu+1 and check here http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper04:16
Flanneltate: what's the problem04:16
dblpdok thanks04:16
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tatetwo things, I can't seem to install something called bcp04:16
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tatewhich I don't even know what that is04:16
ecormier<tate: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_add_extra_repositories04:17
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ecormier<tate: then sudo apt-get install bcp04:18
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tateI have, it's not listed04:18
unkn0wn2uis there an inotify kernel around for breezy04:18
Flannelecormier: bcp isn't in the repositories04:18
ecormier<tate: after sudo apt-get update04:18
ecormier<Flannel: oops....you know what I'm in right (dapper)04:18
nickrudbcp is in dapper, not breezy if it matters04:18
ecormiersorry04:18
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SurfnKid!apache04:18
ubotumethinks apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP04:18
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ChrisDcan anyone help me get amaroK working?04:19
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ecormier<ChrisD: whats wrong04:19
nickrudChrisD, in what way?04:20
ChrisDi'm running amarok 1.4 but it won't play mp304:20
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ChrisDit's running the xine engine in ubuntu 6.0604:20
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notjadacyrusHow come update-manager keeps telling me to upgrade to the same stuff over and over. Like xorg 7 when i clearly already have xorg 7 installed04:20
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ChrisDi'm pretty sure i installed all the codecs but it still won't work04:20
OkitaSo I can't get the rescue functionality from a Dapper CD?  The stuff on this page isn't helping me:04:20
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Okitahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows04:20
wilanHi guys04:20
intelikeynotjadacyrus subversions04:21
nickrudChrisD, have you installed libxine-extracodecs04:21
notjadacyrusyeah but everytime i install the xserver-xorg and all that it messes up my nvidia driver, so i have to go and reinstall that04:21
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danlare there any near dreamweaver quality html editors for linux?04:21
ChrisDno i don't04:21
ChrisDhm04:22
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ChrisDit doesn't show up in synaptic04:22
SurfnKidhey is there a name database where all the module-packages from GNU/Linux04:22
intelikeynotjadacyrus the price you pay for running bata04:22
nickrudChrisD, read !components & !repos04:22
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SurfnKidcreated by their authors that can be looked up?04:22
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nickrud!components04:22
ubotuThe rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components04:22
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Commander-Crowehey I need help04:22
nickrud!repos04:22
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:22
notjadacyrushow do i get off beta04:22
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Commander-Crowedoes anyone know if HLDS will work on UBuntu/04:23
notjadacyrusjust keep dist-upgrading ?04:23
intelikeynotjadacyrus it should calm down in a few days.04:23
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intelikeynotjadacyrus yes just keep dist-upgrading04:23
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camIve followed this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24853 to compile my kernel, menu.lst has been update, when i boot from the new kernel I got a Kernel panic : VFS unable to find root file system (entry in menu.lst is /vmlinuz-2.6.16.18 root=/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root ro quiet splash) ext3 is builtin ...what's wrong ?04:23
nickrudnotjadacyrus, you need to be sure to install the linux-restricted-modules that matches your current running kernel04:23
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notjadacyrusyeah04:23
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Commander-Crowedoes anyone know if HLDS will work on UBuntu/04:23
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nickrudnotjadacyrus, every single time04:24
OkitaArrrrgh, GRUB keeps saying that "selected disk does not exist when I try to do setup (hd0)04:24
ecormier<Commander-Crowe: what is HLDS04:24
notjadacyrusbut uhm, is there a way to tell one part of the dapper version hierarchy im currently in04:24
solwhat is my $HOME/.drive file04:24
Commander-Crowehalf life Dedicated server04:24
altereg0Okita, try /dev/hda04:24
recyclebinHLDS = advenced IDS?04:24
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recyclebino.o04:24
ecormierCommander-Crowe: sorry no idea04:24
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intelikeynotjadacyrus yes, but i can't tell ya how....04:24
dxdemetriouhi04:24
leboffi did it by the way.. so you dont have to hear me ask for any more dmraid help!04:25
nickrudnotjadacyrus, if you install linux-386 it should pull in the current restricted format package every time. That's it's purpose04:25
recyclebinih04:25
notjadacyrusyeah04:25
recyclebinhaey04:25
notjadacyrusintelikely, how come?04:25
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nickrudheh. Yeah you do, you just have it internalized, not verbalized, intelikey04:26
Okitaaltereg0: Error while parsing number04:26
camthe output of fdisk -l is : /dev/sda1   *           1          31      248976   83  Linux | /dev/sda2              32        4865    38829105    5  Extended | /dev/sda5              32        4865    38829073+  8e  Linux LVM04:26
intelikeylol04:26
solwhat is my home/.drive file?  it has a permission problem04:26
SurfnKidhey guys how can i permanently stop my NTFS from mounting04:26
SurfnKidnow i cant get it to stop mounting on its own04:26
intelikeymaybe turncated nickrud04:26
dxdemetriouI have the Ubuntu Breezy on one pc and the beta Dapper on other. When Dapper is out can I use the packages from Synaptic for upgrade so to not needed the redownloading for all packages?04:26
altereg0Okita, you're tryingto install grub to theMBR, right?04:26
terry_sorry who can help me for fix this problem ...I aret now what I do...04:26
ecormierSurfnKid: in "system-admin-disks"04:26
altereg0*MBR04:26
terry_Cannot launch entry04:26
terry_Details: Failed to execute child process "gksudo" (No such file or directory)04:26
Okitaaltereg0: Yup04:26
GeorgeAScotthey.. i've got a quick question... i installed breezy without a soundcard... then went and bought one... i havne't installed it yet and i was wondering if i'm going to have to reinstall or recompile the kernel?04:27
ecormier<GeorgeAScott: plug it in and it should work04:27
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altereg0Okita, normally you just do a sudo grub-install /dev/hda   if I remember correctly04:27
GeorgeAScottsweetness... as soon as i finish these french fries04:27
SurfnKidecormier yeah disabled and it works, but then when i save a file from www to my pc, the hda1 NTFS is there again04:27
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altereg0Okita, just be sure your /boot/grub/menu.lst is right04:28
intelikeycam     hmmm   root=/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root ro quiet splash <----   root=/dev/sda5   dude04:28
nickruddxdemetriou, yes, but I'm not sure I can verbalize it :)04:28
Okitaaltereg0: Yeah, I tried that already... It may be a moot point since I tried to partly step through the installer and maybe now my Ubuntu installation is b0rked anyway04:28
solwhen i login im getting an error message  say something about  $HOME/.drive file ......04:28
altereg0Okita, ah, that's adifferentstorythen04:28
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SurfnKidthis is weird04:28
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Okitaaltereg0: Before, it used to mount, at least04:29
ecormierSurfnKid: run the command sudo gedit /etc/fstab and then add noauto where auto was04:29
GeorgeAScottthanks bye04:29
OkitaAh well, looks like I'm doing everything from scratch04:29
SurfnKidah04:29
SurfnKidok let me check04:29
khunahow do i update firefox on linux plz help me04:29
altereg0Okita, I would boot the live CD and check df -h  and fdisk -l /dev/hda04:29
Flannel!tell khuna about ff1.504:29
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altereg0Okita, to see what is actually there04:30
ChrisDi got amaroK working04:30
SurfnKid#Added by diskmounter utility04:30
SurfnKid/dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 004:30
ChrisDthanks for the help04:30
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ChrisD^__^04:30
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nickrudOkita, I wasn't really following, but that wiki page should allow you to recreate the proper boot for ubuntu. What's the issue?04:30
Okitaaltereg0: The partitions are indeed still there, I just can't mount the linux partition anymore04:30
camintelikey, oh really ?? should I replace /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root to /dev/sda5 then ?04:30
khunahelp me04:30
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intelikeycam try it.04:30
Flannelkhuna: read your pm from ubotu04:30
dxdemetriounickrud: ok. Its better from beginning :). From my upgrade some packages arent downloadable, but there are in synaptic. I will have problems like this in final release?04:30
altereg0Okita, how are youtrying to mount them ?04:31
petrikWhen you share a folder what do you use to view it on the other PC?04:31
ecormier<SurfnKid: add noauto after the user and put a comma after04:31
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camintelikey, oki, rebooting ;) tx04:31
khunao were do i find that im new to linux04:31
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Commander-Crowedoes anyone know if HLDS will work on UBuntu/04:31
nickrudkhuna, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion04:31
SurfnKidecormier hehe thats what i was thinking to do! but thought of get ur help first ok04:31
Flannelkhuna: what are you using to talk in irc? xchat?04:31
SurfnKiduser,auto,fmas.....04:31
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khunayea04:31
ecormierSurfnKid: hopefully that works04:31
SurfnKidi mean noauto04:31
Flannelnickrud: right, I should've just done that.04:31
nickrudkhuna, or wait 3 days, and upgrade to daper. It's a later firefox04:31
ecormierright04:31
SurfnKidk04:31
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intelikeyCommander-Crowe what is HLDS ?04:32
SurfnKidok done04:32
Okitanickrud: I followed those instructions, but grub and grub-install gave me various errors, and I may have stepped a little too far into the install script, and I'm afraid it may have erased the Linux install on my original partition04:32
SurfnKidnow im gonna write down all  the commands u said04:32
SurfnKidthanks04:32
nickrudOkita, ouch.04:32
ecormiercheers04:32
altereg0khuna, are you registered with nickserv?  /msg nickserv register <your password>04:32
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phreekbirdsup yall04:32
Okitanickrud: I guess the good news is that I only did the install day before yesterday04:32
khunano04:32
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nickrudOkita, yeah, that is gooooood news :)04:32
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altereg0khuna, then ubotu won'ttalkto you ;)04:33
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nickrudkhuna, why not?04:33
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Okitanickrud: I'm fscking it now just in case, but anyways, it's weird that grub didn't want to run any of the commands on that page you gave me04:33
altereg0khuna, just register your nick04:33
intelikeyyessir break earily & break often......04:33
ecormier<altereg0: how do I register the nick04:33
Flannelecormier: /msg nickserv help register04:33
altereg0  /msg nickserv register <your password>04:33
nickrudOkita, hrm. Me, I don't run windows, so I point people at that page because it seems to work.04:34
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ecormieraltereg0: i just enter that like a normal message and my password doesn't go to all of you right?04:34
altereg0ecormier, you just enter it - I suggest changing to the server channel to be sure in case you mis-type04:35
Flannelecormier: /msg nickserv means the message goes to nickserv.  Go to the server window, if you want to be safe (or start a query with nickserv, then ditch the /msg nickserv bit)04:35
intelikeyecormier the whold point of /mst  is that only the  /msg'd sees it.04:35
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H080J03i am having trouble with running wine with XGL, if i start a program with wine, xgl crashes, any one know how to slove this?04:36
FlannelH080J03: #ubuntu+1 or maybe even #ubuntu-xgl for that.04:36
ecormieraltereg0 <Flannel <intelikey : thanks04:37
intelikey!04:37
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey04:37
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intelikeyoh04:37
intelikey!start a distro war04:37
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey04:37
crysalishow would i navigate using terminal..for example in dos i would type cd documents to get in that folder...how is it for linux?04:37
Flannelintelikey, you're greater than I am.04:37
Flannelcrysalis: cd ;)04:37
Okitanickrud: Doesn't grub need a config file of some kind?04:37
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crysalislol04:38
ecormier<crysalis: I use "mc"04:38
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Okitanickrud: Ahh, I've my old partition back... Now I can go into the /boot directory and use the menu.lst that's there?04:38
intelikeyFlannel i'm not so big ???04:38
Flannelintelikey: well, you're bigger than I am, and bigger than altereg0, although I am larger than altereg0, apparently.04:39
leboffi'm pretty sure banshee is incredible04:39
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jbarrettAnybody willing to help with a weird networking problem I've been having?  Since dist-upgrading to dapper eth0 comes up for about 30 seconds and seems to be fully functional.  Then it just gets disconnected.04:39
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Flanneljbarrett: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support04:39
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intelikeyFlannel well you have me chuckeling, and curious.   what are you on about ?04:39
jbarrettFlannel, Oh,  alright thanks.  Sorry04:39
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Flannelintelikey: ecormier> altereg0 <Flannel <intelikey : thanks04:40
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intelikeyoh04:40
intelikeyha ha04:40
crysalisokay...im trying to navigate to my home folder using terminal...where would i start? i've cd home...but aparantly im skipping some parent folders because it's returning with "No such file or directory"04:40
solwhere is $HOME/.dmrc?04:40
solit has a permission problem04:40
Flannelsol: home is ~/04:40
Subhumancrysalis,  type "cd ~" to get home04:40
Kyralsol: thats harmless04:40
unkn0wn2ucrysalis, home is also just cd04:40
ecormierFlannel: just me getting sloppy with cut/paste04:40
Subhumanyour home is located at /home/username04:40
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intelikeyFlannel home is also $HOME04:40
Flannelcrysalis: cd ~ or cd /home/username to go to your home place.04:40
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solhow do i change .drmc  's permission i cant find it in home04:41
nickrudOkita, if it's properly made, and referenced propery by update-grub & grub-install, of course :)04:41
Flannelintelikey: right, but ~ is shorter and easier than $HOME ;)04:41
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Flannelsol: things with a period to start, are hidden.  ls -a to see it04:41
intelikeyFlannel cd    is shorter still and it defalts to  cd $HOME04:41
soloh  aaaaaaaaaaah04:41
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Okitanickrud: Well, the one from my previously working Kubuntu partition should be good =)04:41
solthx flannel04:41
altereg0Flannel, just "cd" will get youhome,and is even shorter04:41
ecormierintelikey: nice...thanks04:41
Flannelaltereg0: will it? how ... interesting.04:42
nickrudOkita, check it carefully.04:42
altereg0Flannel, just type cd04:42
Okitanickrud: Whoops, now I have two bootloaders04:42
drewnever talk to drunk middle school cheerleaders04:42
nickrudheh.04:42
drewthey get annoying04:42
solcool i put show hidden files04:42
Okitanickrud: The pretty Kubuntu one and the plain grub one04:42
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altereg0Flannel, and   cd -  will take you to the previous directory04:42
OkitaI may have been overzealous in installing things everywhere04:42
SurfnKidcan i change directory permissions with chmod?04:43
nickrudOkita, I try to know as little about grub as needed.04:43
altereg0SurfnKid, yes04:43
intelikey_04:43
altereg0SurfnKid, man chmod ;-)04:43
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SurfnKidah ok04:43
drewso guys04:43
crysalisokay so im currently located in "/home/crysalis" now i try to navigate to my desktop folder using  "cd desktop" and its not working...am i doing something wrong?04:43
ecormierSurfnKid: you can also right click in nautilus and properties04:43
SurfnKidaltereg i need that04:43
drewcant wait for that ubuntu release04:43
Okitanickrud, Knowing how to use grub is like knowing where your fire extinguisher is... Usually doesn't seem like useful knowledge until you need it04:43
nosklocrysalis, it is case sensitive04:44
ecormiercrysalis: capital D04:44
nosklocrysalis, try cd Desktop04:44
altereg0SurfnKid, I was kidding, but man pages are a good idea ;-)04:44
SurfnKidecormier theyre greyed out so what can i do04:44
SurfnKidah04:44
ecormiertry sudo nautilus04:44
crysalisaahh...i see i see...case sensitive...04:44
SurfnKidim gonna get ya04:44
drewyo can somebody help me I want to customize grub04:44
SurfnKidok04:44
crysalisits just worked....04:44
SurfnKidthat worked thanks again04:45
ecormierSurfnKid: be careful with that though...you should close it after doing what you need04:45
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intelikeySurfnKid if you don't know about man pages    you owe it to your self to read   man intro && man man04:45
drewI want to put up a picture so when grub loads it wont be jus a black screen04:45
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audisamis there tutorial of how to setup apache ??04:45
Flannelecormier: no, gksudo nautilus.04:45
SurfnKidecormier i was just about to ask, it gives you pretty much full rights to all the folders/04:45
altereg0rats, I keep missing the space bar04:45
Ophiocusdrew, look in /boot/grub/menu.lst there you will find the all the givens youd like to tune up04:46
SurfnKidI just need to add a file to the apache2 folder04:46
ecormierright...and thanks for that flannel04:46
drewk thx04:46
intelikey!tell audisam about lisp04:46
Ophiocusah04:46
intelikey!tell audisam about lamp04:46
SurfnKidintelikey ok ill check man pages04:46
nickrudOkita, I bring out lilo when I need the fire extinguisher :)04:46
Flannellisp, eh? heh.04:46
Ophiocusa splash screen04:46
drewi just started 2 days ago so If i need help ill come back04:46
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noskloaudisam, you can setup apache to do a lot of things04:46
noskloaudisam, there are many tutoprials04:46
Ophiocusdonno if thats doable with grub?04:46
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noskloaudisam, *tutorials04:46
intelikeySurfnKid just open a terminal and paste this       man intro && man man04:46
SurfnKidtoo late i already did04:47
SurfnKid=D04:47
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jorvis_when I search on packages.ubuntu.com and find a package I want to install, I just get "couldn't find package X".   I've added universe and multiverse in the synaptic package manager, what else do I need to do?04:47
drewwhere can I put a picture in the menu file04:47
intelikeyFlannel i typo,   makes coding interesting.  no?04:47
btrentocould someone help me with a mounting question04:48
bimberijorvis_: what's the package04:48
pppoe_dudehi is there an easy one-liner command to send a document to a printer on the network? it is not shared or anything, just running on cups04:48
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bimberi?04:48
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ecormierbtrento: ask it04:48
jorvis_bimberi: flashplugin-nonfree04:48
altereg0!info flashplugin-nonfree04:48
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5ubuntu0.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB04:48
jorvis_pppoe_dude: lpr -P some_cups_printer_queue04:48
audisamLook I  just got a server at home and I am trying to setup a basic webserever  on UBUNTU to host  FORUMS and  WEBSITES.   Besides the  Apache + sql what do I need  to conver my IP to DOMAINNAME04:48
altereg0jorvis_, did you update/reload ?04:48
bimberijorvis_: what's your architecture? i386?04:48
nickrudjorvis_, if you can find it in packages.ubuntu.com, but not in synaptic: you have made an error adding universe & mulitverse. If you'd put /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ we can vet them for you04:48
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jorvis_bimberi: amd6404:49
altereg0ah04:49
jaimehello04:49
pppoe_dudejorvis_: so like, lpr -P [ip_address] :631 <filename>?04:49
ctothejwhen I try to install, it keeps freezing on loading /install/initrd.gz . suggestions?04:49
jorvis_nickrud: that's true, I can't find it in synaptic04:49
crysalisis there a folder within this file system that acts like "Program Files" folder in windows or "Applications" folder in Mac?04:49
jaimecan anybody help me04:49
btrentook i recently installed ubuntu, but previously had fedora is there anyway to format and use the fedora partion as a data partition04:49
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altereg0jorvis_, I don't think flash is available for amd6404:49
nickrudjorvis_, flash is not available in amd64 if I've been following correctly04:49
ecormier<crysalis: /usr/bin ??04:50
lebofftheres a good howto on the wiki to get flash workin on amd6404:50
leboffworks great04:50
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jorvis_nickrud: ah.  ok.  so how do I properly enable universe and multiverse?04:50
jaimei need  to know how to install a program in ubuntu04:50
drewcan somebody help me04:50
leboffhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava04:50
Flannel!tell jorvis_ about repositories04:50
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jorvis_drew: just ask04:50
bimberijorvis_: sry, got distracted, but the others have it :/04:50
nickrudjorvis_, are you on amd64?04:50
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jorvis_nickrud: yes04:50
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Lord_Athurhi all04:50
leboffjorvus_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava04:50
jorvis_i see that i can't do flash on amd64, but I just meant for other stuff too04:50
drewI need help putting up a picture as a background in grub I have the menu.lst file open right now04:50
jaimehi lord athur04:51
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jorvis_leboff: thanks04:51
leboffnp04:51
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altereg0jorvis_, leboff just pointed you in the right direction04:51
paul_Im having sound problems in ubuntu after install of mplayer. Now no sound on anything. Can someone help?04:51
altereg0:)04:51
jorvis_k, the telling me about repositories script didn't work04:51
bimberileboff: nice one :)04:51
altereg0!repos04:51
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:51
jorvis_oh, private msg ... isee04:51
camintelikey, ok, sda5 is not my / partition, using this line : kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.16.18 root=/dev/sda1 ro is working ... root partition is mounted but I got an error : Warning: enable to  open an initial console | kernel panic : not syncing :: no init found; try passing init= option to kernel. i tried to do this : mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.16.18 2.6.16.18 but here is the output : /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-swap_1: Kernel does not suppor04:51
camt LVM ; i am running 2.6.12-10-386 default kernel ... any ideas ?04:51
nickrudjorvis_, then you cannot get flash from the repos, period. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats , look for flash for some pointers. Blame macromedia, not ubuntu04:51
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SurfnKidcool I got the apache2 thing going04:51
SurfnKidI just needed to copy my index.html to redirect to my company's site04:52
SurfnKidso now its working04:52
SurfnKidgod im starting to like linux more and more and more04:52
ecormierSurfnKid: addictive is the word04:52
SurfnKidthank you whoever made ubuntu a breezy install04:52
SurfnKidi was suffering from frustrations under windows, and a bit reluctant to admit it04:53
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nickrudleboff, you've used that page yourself? I'd not mind having an alternative to what I just said04:53
bzakscan any one guide me to a good tut on installing apache 2.2 ?04:53
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altereg0!lamp04:53
ubotuLinux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP04:53
leboffi currently use that setup04:53
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bzaksthanks ubotu04:54
Flannelaltereg0, no 2.2 isn't in repos04:54
ctothejwhy would my system freeze when loading /install/initrd.gz before an install?04:54
bzakseven if you're a bot04:54
cfh_devWhat's a good dvd player for kde or how can I get mplayer to show the startup menus of a dvd?04:54
altereg0Flannel, ah I see04:54
Flannelbzaks: 2.2 isn't in repos04:54
altereg0Flannel, don't know then04:54
shadymikeHow do I turn the PC speaker beeping off when I use the terminal?04:54
nickrudleboff, on your head then, I'll point amd people at it :)04:54
intelikeycam from what you posted about fdisk -l  i'd say if sda1 is /  and not /boot   then you have major initrd/initramfs issues.04:54
bimberiubotu flash64 is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava04:54
ubotuokay, bimberi04:54
drew...04:54
altereg0shadymike,  xset b off04:54
jorvis_nickrud: thanks, i'm following the links.  and I don't blame ubuntu ... I understand licensing issues.04:55
leboffnickrud: ok, just letting you know, yesterday sound worked with flash, today it doesnt... but everything else works great04:55
shadymikealtereg0: thanks04:55
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SurfnKidso if i have ubuntu 5.10 now would it take a lot of changing files to upgrade to the newest 6.xx?04:55
nickrudleboff, that's just flash :)04:55
btrentodoes anyone know how to format a partiton in linux04:55
altereg0shadymike,  yw :)04:55
bzakssurfnKid04:55
bzaksI'd like to be able to do that too04:56
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xnullhow can I downgrade my ati drivers?04:56
altereg0!upgrade04:56
bzaksif you know how! let me know!04:56
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Subhumanxnull,04:56
bzakswhy not?04:56
protocol1SurfnKid, if you have a nice fast broadband connection...it should'nt be a problem to upgrade04:56
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xnullSubhuman : yea..04:56
camintelikey, yeah, I just used the default partition scheme when i installed ubuntu. one / on sda1 and one swap ... what can I do to solve this initrd pblm ?04:56
nickrudbtrento, how do you mean? create a partition, or format a linux partition for a file type?04:56
bzakshow do we do that protocol1?04:56
altereg0!tell SurfnKid about upgrade04:56
leboffjust saw this: #04:56
leboffsound is an issue under KDE (Kubuntu) as well. The arts daemon (if running) must be suspended in order for Flash to be able to emit sound.04:56
leboff#04:56
Subhumanxnull,  "sudo apt-get install packagename=versionnumber04:56
leboffi'll try it out04:56
Subhumanno sorry04:56
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Subhumanxnull, ill get back to you, 10 secs04:56
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xnullSubhuman : how do I search for a older version?04:57
bzaks!tell bzaks about upgrade04:57
humboltdapper will be released in 2 days. any body know already how XEN support is coming along? Will there be a nice interface or will we have just the bare minimum?04:57
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majdhey04:57
protocol1on official release day (recommended) try this out "sudo update-manager -d"04:57
protocol1bzaks, that will give you an option to upgrade to dapper04:57
majdwhere do icons go when you install a program? i can't find the azureus icon in usr/share/app-install/icons/04:58
bzakssweet04:58
altereg0protocol1, or doit nowand avoid the rush ;-)04:58
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altereg0bah " do it now"04:58
intelikeycam "...root partition is mounted but I got an error : Warning: enable to open an initial console | kernel panic...."  <--- that should not happen if the correct fs is mounted as /   that will happen if you mount something like /boot/  on /      the output of fdisk -l  you posted says if sda5 is swap  you have a swap partition 100 times the size of your root partition.04:58
protocol1yeah......you can04:58
Subhumanxnull, yes, like this: "sudo apt-get install libxss1=1:1.0.1-0ubuntu3" if you wanted to install libxss1 version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu304:58
xnullSubhuman : i need to downgrade xorg-driver-fglrx04:58
protocol1I did mine a week an a half ago04:58
bzakscan anyone tell me how to get apache 2.2 installed?04:58
Subhumanahh, it sounds like the new ati driver sucks.04:58
Flannelbzaks: you'll need to compile it yourself, unless they release a deb04:58
Subhumanwell i dunno howd u'd find the old version04:58
altereg0bzaks, you might have to compile it I think04:59
xnullSubhuman : xorg-driver-fglrx                      7.0.0-8.25.18+2.6.15.11-1            Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators what I have now.. i need a bit older..04:59
anthosityhagimemashite04:59
nickrudmajd, you can look for icons in a package by using the dpkg tool: dpkg -L azureus | grep png (that looks at all the files in the azureus package, and searches for the png files)04:59
camintelikey, where can i paste the output of df -h ?  #flood ?04:59
bzaksokay.... I'm not going to lie... (complete n00b) how do I know what directory to compile it in?04:59
Subhumanxnull,  i have no idea how to look for old versions sorry.04:59
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altereg0bzaks, any dir will do - your home dir is fine05:00
bzaksoh okay05:00
jorvis_ bzaks: compile it wherever you like.  if you want to install it someplace use the prefix option when configuring05:00
intelikeycam can you boot a live cd and mount sda1  and sda5  and see what is on them    / should have the /root and /etc dirs in it.05:00
xnullSubhuman : ok thanks..05:00
bzaks... or dear God... all this config stuff is scary05:00
bzakssorry....05:00
intelikey!rell cam about paste05:00
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey05:00
cam/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root05:00
cam 35G  2.7G   31G   9% /05:00
jorvis_bzaks: check the README, you really only do three commands: ./configure, make, make install05:00
TrendKi||good evening dudes05:00
altereg0bzaks, I suggest installing checkinstall to make a deb05:00
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bzaksthis is nothing like windows05:00
Subhumanbzaks, youll need to have the "build-essential" packahe to compile too05:00
intelikey!tell cam about paste05:00
xnullanybody could tell me how can I downgrade my Ati driver?05:00
bzakswhat's a deb?05:00
xnull!downgrade05:00
ubotuxnull: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:00
xnull:P05:00
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altereg0bzaks, very observant remark ;)05:01
Flannelbzaks: its the format ubuntu uses to install things.05:01
Subhumanxnull, i told you HOW05:01
Subhumanyou just nee dto find the old version number05:01
bzaksoooh okay05:01
Subhuman!deb05:01
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)05:01
xnullSubhuman: sorry to search for a older version..05:01
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altereg0bzaks, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation05:01
TrendKi||how is xen support looking in dapper?05:01
bzaksOMG they have this? I searched for tutorials... and I was having problems left and right... google is pissing me off05:02
nickrudubotu downgrade is downgrading packages is not defined in the deb package management system.05:02
ubotunickrud: okay05:02
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intelikeycam you are running the live cd now ?05:02
Flannelbzaks: have what?05:02
bzaksthe user docs05:02
camintelikey, nope, I dont have it .. it's at home ...I'm at work05:03
altereg0bzaks, if in doubt, type http://wiki.ubuntu.com/YourKeyword  and see if anyone has written a howto or whatever05:03
bzaksokay05:03
protocol1bzacks, its nothing like windows for a good reason.....lol05:03
bzaksthat's awesome05:03
bzaksyou're right, I believe you... it's hard to switch after 10+ years on windows05:03
altereg0bzaks, also see  http://help.ubuntu.com05:03
intelikeycam then how can you df  that box ?05:03
intelikeyif kernel panics ?05:03
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protocol1yeah....I been using ubuntu since january....and I love it05:03
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protocol1and this dapper version is killer05:04
camintelikey, kernel panic with the kernel i just built ... but the default one (from ubuntu cd) is working05:04
bzaksis it really safe to use dapper if it's not "ready"?05:04
PyroMithrandirbzaks, it's safe05:04
Ophiocusbzaks: it will take you a good month to learn to use ubuntu in ways that are simply not feasible (both economically and or technically) in windows05:04
camintelikey,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1488405:04
altereg0bzaks, it is safe05:04
bzaksokay05:04
argpiratedapper works very well for me05:04
altereg0bzaks, releaseis in two days05:04
protocol1I turned this old dell into a nice multimedia machine with dapper.....its sweet05:04
nickrudyes. I do like dapper. About time I installed a recent unstable to compare. (as if I had the time)05:04
intelikeyah ok.  then the only issue you are having is the initrd cam05:04
defryskbzaks, its unsafe ;p05:05
PyroMithrandirbzaks, I've been using it for 2 months, and it was a bit buggy back then but it's been really stable05:05
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argpirateonly thing ubuntu is missing is a good control panal like feture05:05
altereg0;)05:05
bzaksokay05:05
Flannelargpirate: to configure what?05:05
nickrudoh, defrysk you are just 24 hours from being out of date05:05
altereg0argpirate, type gnome-control-center  IIRC05:05
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nickrudbzaks, wait one day. Thats all05:05
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TrendKi||argpirate, whats wrong with the System->Administration menu?05:05
defrysknickrud, out of date ?05:05
argpiratemore of a mandriva style cc would be nice05:06
protocol1and on this laptop I have a dual boot option which is nice05:06
argpirateits alright05:06
argpirateits missing some key fetures though05:06
nickruddefrysk,  its unsafe ;p05:06
defryskah05:06
drewI guess I wont get helped05:06
nickrud:)05:06
altereg0argpirate, such as ?05:06
argpiratelike a NFS config tool05:06
argpirateor SMB for that matter05:06
Flannelaltereg0: I think system > preferences/administration would be more approriate05:06
protocol1I havent really thought about converting completely because I wont be able to play some windows games Im stuck on05:06
nickruddrew, ask again, we're scrolling fast05:06
intelikeycam ok so sda5 is large stroage area ?05:06
camintelikey, i think so, but i have a pblm when doing the mkinitrd command ... I updated the paste, I added a section of my meny.lst ... right now i'm booting from /vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root ro quiet splash05:06
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altereg0Flannel, sure - just telling himthe control centerexists05:06
drewhow can I put a background image for frub Im a newb so it might take awhile but plz help05:07
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Ophiocusprotocol1: use linux for computing, and get a console ;)05:07
Flannelaltereg0: right, but that's more of tweaks, windows CP is more of devices/etc.  Which is exactly like the system menu05:07
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nickruddrew, a background for grub you mean?05:07
altereg0Flannel, I defer ;-)05:07
drewyes05:07
TrendKi||argpirate, system->administration->shared folders05:07
camintelikey, seems to be ... sda1 is /boot , sda5 is / (large store area)05:07
intelikeycam yes.  and the new kernel is a roll your own ?05:07
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camintelikey, yeah i built it myself05:07
Ophiocuswith the windows license fee alone you can get yourself a nice x360, ironically from MS :D05:07
argpirateyeah i mean it has something, its just not really complete05:08
Flannelargpirate: what is it missing?05:08
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altereg0argpirate, file a wishlist bug on launchpad ;)05:08
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argpiratewell it allows you to add folders but does not have something to scan a network05:09
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nickruddrew, ok. To tell you the truth, that is very low on most peoples horizons. Booting only happens about once a week for most ubuntu users, and we only see it for a few seconds. To put it bluntly, we don't really care what the grub boot screen looks like as long as it works05:09
xnullhow do I search with apt a older version of a driver?  (xorg-drivers-fglrx) ..?05:09
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argpirateand set mount points for other folders on your network05:09
igor_oi05:09
BeforewisdomHi.  I'm new to the online music thing.  Are there legal music services for linux that feature main stream muscians?05:09
igor_alguma garota aqui05:09
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igor_?05:09
argpiratei can do it manually, just something i miss from mandriva05:09
drewwell nuckrud i boot up every 5 hours(laptop dont want it to burn out)05:09
altereg0Beforewisdom, magnatunes is nice05:09
defryskmis something from mandriva ?????05:09
defryskomg05:10
argpirateheh05:10
argpiratemandriva is good05:10
argpiratenothing wrong with it05:10
Beforewisdomaltereg0 thanks! I thought I was SOL05:10
defryskargpirate, omg05:10
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intelikeycam i'm not much on building things.... there are plenty of ready mades.   someone in #gentoo might help you trubble shoot the kernel build   idk.    but if the modules are all built correctly and the initrd/initramfs is propperly built the kernel should not panic like that.05:10
nickruddrew, then maybe you could look it up and write a wiki page ?05:10
argpiratewhat would be wrong with it?05:10
TrendKi||argpirate, RPMs05:10
igor_alguma gostosa05:10
drewyea like that would happen05:10
argpiratewhats wrong with rpms?05:10
igor_?05:10
protocol1Ophiocus, the day I get a PS3 I will think about it05:10
argpirateexactly05:10
altereg0Beforewisdom, magnatunes has the motto "We are not evil" :)05:10
defryskargpirate, omg05:10
Flannelargpirate: seriously, file for it at launchpad.  If you think it would make peoples experiences better, I'm sure others will agree.05:10
defryskpoor you05:10
protocol1;)05:10
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drewanother question I want to be able to use bot .deb and .rpm in ubuntu how can this be done05:10
Beforewisdomaltereg0....everyone thinks they are not evil05:11
defryskdrew, dont05:11
nickrudargpirate, there's not a darn thing wrong with rpms, except that ubuntu uses debs05:11
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drewwhy?05:11
argpiratei know that05:11
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intelikeycam may i ask why you are building kernels ?05:11
altereg0:))05:11
TrendKi||argpirate, i dont want to start a flame war...ive just had nightmares with RPMs...05:11
argpiratedefrysk, seems to disagree05:11
argpirateah05:11
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nickruddrew, a design decision. Nothing more05:11
MrProper__with /etc/aliases for postfix can you somehow specify an include for another file with a list of aliases?05:11
intelikeycam i only ask because there might be an easier way...05:11
paul_is there a room for sound issues in ubuntu?05:11
drewbecause I see alot more .rpm's than I see .deb05:11
argpiratewell i used to also, but as far as i can tell, if you have a good package manager it doesnt matter what format your binaries are in05:11
nickrudrpms with the proper front end are no worse than debs.05:11
drewyea paul Ive been having sound issues to05:12
TrendKi||argpirate, although, doesnt madriva use a modified version of RPM?05:12
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camintelikey, i see; because I prefer to go on a monolithic kernel insead of loading modules ...05:12
petrikIs there any programs to deal with file sharing between two ubuntu boxes. I have wasted so much time on this and still can not get it to go.05:12
paul_Mine worked fine until I installed mplayer. Then all sound stopped05:12
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argpiratenot as far as i know05:12
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camintelikey, the easiest way should be to install the .deb kernel image right ?05:12
argpiratebut you cant really use rpms from other distros05:13
Flannelpetrik: tons.  samba will work.05:13
drewI installed some coecs for mp3 now all of a sudden my volume sux05:13
altereg0petrik,  NFS, scp, sftp, fish (with konqueror) samba ....05:13
bzaksyou know... I will have to say, I've been in about 3000000000000 forums and chat rooms before05:13
argpiratei mean you could try and hope05:13
CronoDekarshouldn't even need samba, should you?05:13
bzaksbut none have been as helpful as you guys05:13
intelikeycam hmmm yeah... me to   but that tells me that you hosed the build.     monolithic means no need for the initrd....05:13
bzaksthanks a biillion!05:13
TrendKi||argpirate, ok...well anyways  im sure mandriva is good anyways...05:13
argpirateheh, well im an ubuntu user not in any case05:13
gnu2it2what would be the minimal i could install to export X display from a headless server? xauth, icewm???05:13
intelikeycam right.05:13
Beforewisdombytheway, thanks for the help05:13
Beforewisdombye05:13
argpiratenot = now05:13
Beforewisdomthanks for the help05:13
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argpiratei really thinnk the only place mandriva has one up is the MCC05:14
paul_oh well will try again tomorrow.05:14
TrendKi||argpirate, same here05:14
xnull( how do i search for a older fglrx version)05:14
petrikHave NFS but can not seem to get it to work05:14
dmbtwas it anyone in here that requested a deb for googles version of wine?05:14
petrikI can not see the one PC on the other05:14
Linuturk_NBI'm installing 6.06 on a old desktop at home. I need a PCI wireless card that works seemlessly for our wireless network05:14
intelikeycam easy way    apt-cache search linux-image   ; sudo apt-get install <you choice from the list search gave>05:14
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audisamHi there" HELP NEEDED "  I get an error when i try to add privileges to an USER http://pastebin.com/74836105:15
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audisamcan somebody give me an example05:15
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argpirateLinuturk_NB, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?action=show&redirect=WirelessNetworkCards05:15
camintelikey, oki ... well I just found something, according to df -h sda1 is the /boot and sda5 the / ; menu.lst  contains :05:15
camkernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.16.18 root=/dev/sda1 ro ; this line is bad ...  root=/dev/sda5 and not sda1 !05:15
Flannelaudisam: example of what?05:15
altereg0petrik, http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/05:15
TrendKi||Linuturk_NB, ive got a linksys wmp54g running with ndiswrapper without a glitch...05:15
drewanybody know how I can crack my router becuase my dad just bought a comfort inn and we have a linksys hub 3 switches a mototrola surfboard and a computer hooked up to the hotels server05:16
drewand I want to be able to use dns05:16
drewbut it needs the password05:16
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drewand usrname05:16
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argpirateanything that ndiswrapper supports, and you have windows drivers for should work almost out of the box05:16
dmbtdrew: you could also use an external dns server05:16
audisamhow to  give privileges to user on mysql05:16
drewand my dad wouldn know it05:16
dmbtanyway, gtg05:16
drewmy dns is on the web05:16
segfuanyone know what package to install to get java api docs?05:16
Linuturk_NBTrendKi||, any that work "out of the box"05:16
xnull( how do i search for a older fglrx version)05:16
drewbut when I type it into my url it ask for a usr name and password05:16
audisami get sintax error on this  :    mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'yourusername'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpassword' WITH GRANT OPTION;05:17
argpirateLinuturk_NB, check that site i gave you05:17
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altereg0xnull, please stop repeating05:17
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intelikeycam yes, well not to say 'i told ya so' but .....05:17
argpirateit lists many cards and if they work out of the box, with additional sources, or not at all05:17
petrikaltereg0, Thanks I passed by that page earlier. Must have missed something05:17
nickruddrew, if you have physical access (depending on the router) there should be a recessed button you can press to reset to defaults05:17
camintelikey, lol my bad ; sorry about that05:17
Flannelaudisam: you might have better luck with an SQL channel.05:17
TrendKi||Linuturk_NB, anything with an atheros chipset should be ok05:17
xnullaltereg0 grr  sorry but i really need a answer ..05:17
drewyea but my parents wont let me in that room to touch it05:17
audisamThank you :)05:17
intelikeynp05:17
chevolechi there05:17
audisami will05:17
chevoleci got a question... i use gnome-terminal is there a way that gterm shows "user@server:bins$" instead "user@server:~/downloads/bins$"??05:18
drewits in a room downstairs05:18
altereg0petrik, there's an NFS wiki page too IIRC05:18
altereg01nfs05:18
nickruddrew, heh.05:18
altereg0!nfs05:18
ubotunfs is, like, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.05:18
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drewand my parents dont want me to mess up the other peeps internet05:18
Flannelaudisam: if I remember correctly, you don't need PRIVELEDGES, just GRANT ALL05:18
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drewit is a franchise hotel05:18
camintelikey, ok .. i'm gonna reboot and see what's going on ;) cya soon I hope on the the kernel :p05:18
drewits a comfort inn05:18
intelikeycam k  luck05:18
drewif it was so crappy hotel 6 I would have already done it05:18
nickrudI like those, I've stayed there more than once.05:18
drewlike wha05:19
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nickrudso cal05:19
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drewlol05:19
drewwell it is a comfort inn05:19
argpirateFlannel, turns out they have a bounty out for a control center in launch pad05:19
argpiratelooks like they are trying to port yast from suse over05:19
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drewat the front desk it has the logo then underneath it says comfort inn by choice hotels05:19
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petrikaltereg0, I had samba working when the other PC was still windoze but now that both are ubuntu I'm not getting anywhere. Deleted samba in the hope that NFS would do the job05:20
TrendKi||i just hope they imporove on yast's speed05:20
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altereg0;)05:20
nickrudblinks05:20
lilahow can I change the size of the image in mplayer?05:20
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drewhttp://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g56085-d106071-Reviews-Comfort_Inn-Kingsville_Texas.html  you can see a picture of the hotel there05:20
argpirateman yast is pretty quick except the package manager05:21
argpiratebut god, that package manager is broken or something05:21
altereg0petrik, all I can suggest is reading the wiki pages and the howto - once set up, NFS works well05:21
TrendKi||argpirate, exactly...05:21
defryskyast ? ARGHH!!!05:21
altereg0petrik, I use it here05:21
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argpiratei would assume the wouldnt really use that part to much anyways05:21
TrendKi||yast's package manager is so slow...05:21
argpiratemaybe just use apt-get for most of it05:21
argpirateyeah its broken05:21
argpiratethe rest of it runs pretty well though05:22
ajax4Hey everyone05:22
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argpiratethats actually why i took suse10.1 off this box though05:22
argpiratethe package manager was just to slow, and clunky05:22
argpiratewierd to add sources to05:22
TrendKi||i was too agravated by the package manager...i took suse 10.1 off too05:22
argpirateno straight command line tools05:22
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intelikeywhile deborphan | grep [A-z]  >/dev/null 2>&105:22
intelikey    do $SU apt-get --purge remove `deborphan`05:22
intelikeydone05:22
|Sivik|which repo do i need to add to get the flashplugin-nonfree05:23
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intelikeyoooops bumped the mouse.05:23
defrysk!flashplugin-nonfree05:23
ubotudefrysk: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:23
altereg0!info flashplugin-nonfree05:23
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB05:23
ajax4Anyone have an opinion on which is better: automatix or easyubuntu?05:23
defryskah05:23
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drewso anybody know how I can over ride the user login on the router05:23
defryskajax4, equally bad05:23
altereg0ajax4, !automatix05:23
ajax4!automatix05:23
altereg0bah05:23
liladoesn't anyone use mplayer?05:23
ubotuI heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.05:23
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defryskajax4, dont use that stuf05:24
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TrendKi||lila, whats the exact problem?05:24
altereg0ajax4, easyubuntu is at least trying to be safe05:24
Flannelajax4: easyubuntu05:24
Some_PersonHey! I'm finally on the internet with ubuntu!05:24
intelikeyajax4 the writer of that info node has an opeion05:24
ajax4So is the consensus that if you have to use one or the other, use Easyubuntu?05:24
DarkTowerSome_Person: Rocks hey!05:24
semqhi there I'm a noob and I need help !05:24
Some_PersonYep05:24
altereg0ajax4, yes05:24
argpiratelila, i use mplayer05:24
lilaTrendKi: the image is too small and I want to enlarge it. the manpage says that I could type option+2 but I don't know what is "option"05:24
Lord_AthurI'll go the bed :P05:24
DarkTowerSome_Person: Rips windows05:25
altereg0ajax4, you learn more by following the RstrictedFormats wiki05:25
Flannelsemq: until you ask a question, we can't answer it.05:25
altereg0!restricted05:25
ubotuI guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats05:25
Some_PersonI'm using Linuxant (I found a keygen on the internet) as a modem driver, and wvdial to connect05:25
TrendKi||lila, are you going into fullscreen and the image is just a small image in the middle of yopur screen surrounded by black?05:25
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semqty flannel05:25
drewgosh I need to hack the router so I can use my dns o I can host stuff on it05:26
drewand p2p05:26
semqwell i have problems with server X05:26
ajax4altereg0: well, the thing is I'm an experienced Linux user who is moving to Ubuntu on June 1...but I have a friend who has no experience with Linux.05:26
lilaTrendKi: exactly05:26
semqmissing output drivers05:26
semqwhen i try X -configure05:26
DarkTowerIs it legal or possible to just copy my windows fonts from xp into my .fonts directory?05:26
drewnope05:26
drewbut how cares dark do it anywayz05:26
spikebit's possible to do it, yes.05:26
TrendKi||lila, r u using mplayer with the gui?05:26
spikebit probably violates the EULA though05:26
drewwhy would they sue u for using their fonts05:26
argpiratethe legality might be questionable though05:26
defrysk!msfonts05:26
ubotuwell, msfonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first05:26
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lilaTrendKi: no gui, how can I use the gui? perhaps that would make it easier05:27
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intelikeysemq  to reconfigure X   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:27
semqty ill try05:27
DarkTowerubotu: Thanbks i did that, it only really has a couple of fonts like Times, a very small collection05:27
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, DarkTower05:27
Some_PersonUbuntu ROX05:27
TrendKi||lila, try gmplayer instead of mplayer05:27
intelikey!bot05:27
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.05:27
defryskdark, ubotu is a bot05:27
DrBanzaiAnybody else have trouble moving large files over to a samba file server?05:27
Some_PersonThat is, if I can get my sound card to work!05:27
ajax4I got another question for you Ubuntu wizards...how well does Xgl work in Dapper?05:28
argpirateDrBanzai, what kind of problem05:28
DarkTowerdefrysk: serious?05:28
Some_PersonI have a Realtek AC97 (I know no other details)05:28
Flannelajax4: pretty well.05:28
argpirateit workd real well05:28
argpiratedo you use ati or nvidia?05:28
semqvideo card autodetect?05:28
ajax4argpirate: I have both, which is better?05:28
argpiratenvidia05:28
DrBanzaiWell, when I try to move a large ISO, it shows up as much smaller on the file server05:28
argpirateby leaps and bounds05:28
argpiratewell maybe just leaps05:28
segfuanyone know what package to install for java documentation?05:28
DarkTowerSo is it legal to just copy my xp fonts to ubuntu?05:28
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argpirateDarkTower, legal enough05:29
Some_PersonMy nvidia card only works with the VESA driver, and not the nvidia one05:29
intelikeysemq sure05:29
semqok05:29
argpirateSome_Person, is it a very very very old card?05:29
ajax4argpirate: Thing is its a GF2 and I had probs under Linux with it crashing.05:29
DarkTowerargpirate: sweet. Im only asking cos i need to do it for someone in a business setting, i dont care bout M$ doing it on my home cpmp05:29
Flannelajax4: Ive got one of those, works fine.  nvidia has nice drivers.05:29
semqwhat driver should i pick? nv or nvidia?05:29
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argpirateajax4, hrm ive never used a card that old really. im pretty sure the driver supports it though05:30
ajax4Flannel: Awesome. Hopefully I'll have a better experience when I switch to Ubuntu Dapper.05:30
argpirateati will work with xgl05:30
Some_Personsemq, try nvidia, then nv, then vesa05:30
argpirateati drivers are generally more difficult to install and buggy05:30
intelikeysemq try the nv   if it will work for ya05:30
Some_Personone's bound to work05:30
semqok05:30
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ajax4argpirate: I had stability issues under Mandriva 2006...hopefully that will be gone under Dapper.05:31
BrianHHHi, Everyone.  I've got a Microsoft Optical trackball, and the right and left buttons work, but I can't get the scrollwheel to work in Ubuntu.  Can ayone give me some pointers?05:31
nemesis_I am running dapper 6.06 lts and am trying to run wineHQ but when start the winecfg to create the fake windows drive i get a page fault05:31
Some_PersonNow, how do I get my Realtek AC97 Soundcard to work in ubuntu?05:31
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argpiratehrm, well hopefully, it really shouldnt make much diffrence though, the binary nvidia drivers are all the same05:31
argpiratenever hurts to try though05:31
lilaTrendKi: I installed gmplayer and I still can't see how to increate the image size05:32
BrianHHargpirate:  It was a pain in the neck to install my ati drivers.  Even with the scripts supplied by ati.05:32
semqasking me BUS identifier05:32
Some_Personi wonder05:32
semqdidnt understand everything05:32
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argpirateYeah ati drivers are lagging behind05:32
Some_Personwill mIRC work in WINE?05:32
argpiratei think they will catch up05:32
spikebSome_Person, it should05:32
semqby default: PCI 2:0:005:32
intelikeysemq  in another terminal   lshw05:32
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spikebargpirate, ati's linux drivers have always been crap05:32
FlannelBrianHH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto05:33
semqshould I quit now?05:33
intelikeysemq no05:33
argpirateyeah i know, im a big nvidia fan for that reason05:33
FlannelSome_Person: why not use something better and native?05:33
spikebi am an intel fan, i wish they'd make actual video cards05:33
spikebheh05:33
nemesis_does anybody keep getting a page fault when they are running wine on dapper rc05:33
TrendKi||lila, right-click the mplayer window...go into preferences...try changing drivers in the video tab05:33
semqim using the CTRL ALT F1 command05:33
Flannelnemesis_: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support05:33
argpirateSome_Person, check http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=mirc61605:33
semqno gnome or kde05:33
intelikeyjust enter another terminal and   do lshw and find what address05:33
nemesis_thnx flannel05:33
argpiratebut i think xchat is just as good05:34
argpirateand native05:34
intelikeyok in another console05:34
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nickrudspikeb, I'm looking at laptops, should I focus on intel graphics?05:34
argpiratebut i really dont irc much05:34
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intelikeyalt + f205:34
semqhow can i make another console?05:34
spikebnickrud, either intel or nvidia graphics05:34
semqok05:34
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semqCTRL ALT F2?05:34
spikebnickrud, intel has open drivers for their chipsets, and are fairly well supported05:34
Flannelsemq: right.05:34
semqok ty05:34
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drewgosh I need to over ride tois05:34
intelikeysemq you have multi consoles already05:34
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drewthis05:34
nickrudspikeb, heh. who has nvidia laptop chips? I like nvidia, for obvious reasons05:34
Some_PersonI like Ubuntu05:34
spikebnickrud, i can't think of anyone offhand, but they exist05:35
spikebnickrud, apple has off and on ;)05:35
intelikeysemq [alt] +[f1-6]    should all be active.05:35
DarkTowerThat bot rocks, would love to write one05:35
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buggzerohello, anyone know of a good virtual mounted app?05:35
semqlshw : screen is scrolling down05:35
argpirateyeah ive seen them around, intel and ati kinda have the lappy market though05:35
buggzeroor is it better to do that from console05:35
Some_PersonI'll like it 200% more if I can get my damn soundcard to work!05:35
argpiratevirtual mounted app?05:35
nickrudspikeb, I'm am looking at intel laptops almost exclusively, that was sort of a trick question :)05:35
buggzero*mount05:35
intelikeysemq in console   shift page-up05:35
argpiratelike for an iso?05:35
spikebnickrud, apple's laptops are intel ;)05:35
buggzeroaffirmative05:36
semqok05:36
BrianHHThanks, flannel. :)05:36
semqwhat am i looking for?05:36
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argpirateyou should be able to just mount it05:36
intelikeysemq or do     lshw | less     <--piping through less is very handy05:36
nickrudspikeb, heh. Can they boot :)05:36
buggzerofrom the console?05:36
argpiratemount /mnt/blah iso.image05:36
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semqok05:36
lilaTrendKi: I change the video and audio drivers, everything works now. many thanks for your help, much appreciated.05:36
buggzerogotcha05:36
intelikeyvidio address05:36
argpirateyeah05:36
semqkj05:36
buggzerounmount is umount right?05:36
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spikebnickrud, there are a lot of issues with them and linux still at the moment, unfortunately05:36
argpirateyeah05:36
DrBanzaiAnybody else have trouble moving large files over to a samba file server?05:36
TrendKi||another satisfied customer...lol05:37
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setite_what major store sells stetsons05:37
argpiratemake sure you are out of all the sub dirs of the iso before you try to umount though05:37
intelikeybuggzero yes05:37
buggzerothanks pirate05:37
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Celestehi05:37
SurfnKidA malicious client may be dropping on your session05:37
SurfnKidWhats this mean?05:37
nickrudspikeb, I have a budget. I have a desktop. I'm seriously thinking, OSX until Linux? very seductive05:37
spikebnickrud, that's a great idea, in my opinion05:37
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spikebnickrud, i'd recommend a macbook over a macbook pro05:37
intelikeySurfnKid means a security hole.05:38
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buggzerointelikey: is there a webpage that explains the generaly used  console commands05:38
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SurfnKidthats nice05:38
nickrudfink, is that still a going concern? Seriously, I'm out of touch on that front05:38
Some_PersonI know how to use wine05:38
SurfnKid=|05:38
intelikey!cli05:38
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org05:38
intelikeybuggzero ^05:38
argpiratealso if you need help with a specifc command you can05:38
buggzero\m/05:38
argpirateman <command> in the console05:38
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argpirateand it will tell you more than you want to know05:39
spikebnickrud, fink still going strong05:39
buggzeroyeah i know about man, but its hard when xserver doesnt start05:39
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nickrudhm. fun, play, work. Laptop.05:39
Toba|BSDcan ubuntu read ufs/ufs2?05:39
Some_PersonYou know, this is only my 2nd week using Linux, and I think I'm getting used to it!05:39
argpiratedid you break X buggzero ?05:39
buggzerowhen you man a command you can only shft+pgup a couple screens05:39
Toba|BSDor do I have to install something to make that work05:39
spikebSome_Person, sweet05:39
intelikeyargpirate depends on how much you want to know.... sometimes i find them lacking05:39
argpiratetrue05:39
buggzeroi upgraded to dapper and it didnt like the old nv drivers at first05:40
intelikeybuggzero you don't shift05:40
buggzeroor ctrl05:40
Some_PersonThe only problem is Ubuntu won't recognise my damn sound card!05:40
intelikeybuggzero man uses less for a pager.  use the up and down arrow keys05:40
TrendKi||Some_Person, what is your sound card?05:40
argpirateoh ya?05:40
buggzerohmmm05:40
Some_PersonTrendKi||: Realtek AC9705:41
intelikeybuggzero you should prolly  man less05:41
buggzerois there anyway to override the font that is used in console outside of x05:41
blacksIf I get the error:  client 2 rejected from local host in my Xorg.0.log, what could be causing that?05:41
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nemesis_i keep getting a page fault when i try to run configure winehq 0.9.1205:41
nickrudspikeb, I've heard that someone has got some version of linux up and running on the x86 laptops. Have you heard of anyone using that to get a deb based system up and running?05:41
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spikebnickrud, actually, a  couple people have come into #ubuntu+1 running dapper on them05:41
Toba|BSDdid anyone see my question?05:41
TrendKi||Some_Person, that seems like a very linux-compatible card05:41
intelikeybuggzero yes.   but don't get me started lying about how.05:41
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buggzeroman with the paramater of less or just man less as in stop using it so much05:42
Some_PersonTrendKi||: How come Ubuntu won't recognise it?05:42
Toba|BSD...nevermind, I'll just fly blind then05:42
intelikey"man less"  <--- that command05:42
buggzeroFINE fine, dont start lying, that will just ruin my day05:42
Toba|BSDthanks anyways :)05:42
semqfile is very big and info hard to find05:42
argpirateSome_Person, does it show up in kinfocenter?05:42
nickrudspikeb, that is greatly encouraging. I need a laptop. It's either gonna be an ultra cheap amd64, or an expensive mac. Hm. doh. hm.05:42
semqwhat does the line look like?05:42
blindToba|BSD: fly me where?05:43
intelikeysemq press /  and type vidio05:43
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semqvidio?05:43
Some_Personargpirate: What is kinfocenter?05:43
intelikey /vidio05:43
semqok05:43
argpirateor wait ubuntu comes with gnome05:43
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distanceisdeathI am trying to view music on myspace, but mozilla won't show any songs in the "little black box" on peoples myspace.  Anyways how can i hear the song?05:43
argpiratei dunno what the gnome equivalent is05:43
drew???05:43
semqpattern not found05:43
intelikeysemq if that comes up empty try backwards search  ?vidio05:44
Some_Personargpirate: You don't use Ubuntu, do you?05:44
TrendKi||Some_Person, how do you know its not recognized? is your volume maybe muted?05:44
fogoshi someone could giive me an amule list of servers please...05:44
argpiratei use Kubuntu05:44
buggzerodinstanceisdeath - upgrade mozilla-flash05:44
semqok05:44
distanceisdeathokay05:44
distanceisdeaththanks05:44
argpiratekubunu > ubuntu05:44
semqpattern not found05:44
buggzeroKubunu < Dos05:44
argpirateheh05:44
argpiratewell05:44
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argpiratebuggzero, whats gnomes hardware info tool?05:45
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intelikeysemq hehhe my bad  /display05:45
nickrudcli > gnome > xfce4 > kde > dos05:45
semqok05:45
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Some_PersonTrendKi||: I rightclick on the speaker icon above and select volume control, and it says "No volume control elements and/or devices found."05:45
buggzeroSystem > admin > Device info05:45
semqfound it!05:45
argpirateSome_Person, check that05:45
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argpiratesee if your sound card is listed05:45
intelikeysemq the line that is something like     bus info: pci@01:00.005:45
argpiratesilly gnome05:45
Some_Personargpirate: OK05:46
semqok05:46
buggzerowqell i dont know what CLI is so im just going to see that gnome is the best although i like xfce too05:46
semqfor me it is 2:0005:46
buggzerono YOUR silly05:46
intelikeyand put that in the xorg config05:46
argpiratecli=command line interface05:46
semqok05:46
intelikeythere you go05:46
buggzerodamnit05:46
buggzeroi knew that05:46
SurfnKidiwconfig shows me 80211g but Wifi Radar shows 80211b what should i believe05:46
TrendKi||Some_Person, try opening a terminal and running alsamixer05:46
argpiratei dunno i just like kde better, its the little things05:46
Some_Personargpirate: The only sound-related thing is "AT-style speaker sound"05:46
nickrudargpirate, that05:46
semqmemory used by video card ?05:46
buggzeroyeah but kde is just like frickin windows05:46
buggzerowell XP at least05:47
nickruds taste, nothing to be ashamed of, even if it's wrong :P05:47
buggzerolooks just as fisher price rediculous05:47
argpiratehrm they all 3 seem pretty similar to me05:47
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intelikey!tell buggzero about cli05:47
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Some_PersonTrendKi||: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory05:47
SurfnKid!iwconfig05:47
ubotuSurfnKid: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:47
buggzerodidint uboutu just told me about CLI05:48
buggzerodont mind my small attention span05:48
BioVorE?05:48
defryskSome_Person, used automatix or something ?05:48
Some_Persondefrysk: What are those things?05:48
nemesis_does anybody get a page fault when running wine config to create the fake windows drive in wine0.9.1205:48
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defryskSome_Person, nm05:48
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buggzerono05:48
RobNyc_CI want to install edubuntu how can I install that from the latest ubuntu livecd?05:49
tritiumRobNyc_C: edubuntu has its own cd images05:49
buggzeroi think you have to download that iso of it05:49
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TrendKi||Some_Person, try typing dmesg in the terminal and look through the outpuit to find anything relatyed to your sound card05:49
nickrudRobNyc_C, that is agood question05:49
defryskSome_Person, do you have an internal and external soundcard ?05:49
semqkernel framebuffer yes or no?05:49
intelikeylive cd's are not generally the best way to install a system.....05:50
RobNyc_CTrinisan, but in distrowatch it shows the latest dapper cd for all 305:50
nickrudRobNyc_C, nm, see tritium05:50
buggzerosemq - use it unless you have problems05:50
intelikeysemq no05:50
Some_Persondefrysk: internal only05:50
buggzerono?05:50
intelikeyno05:50
semqty05:50
buggzerois it bad?05:50
defryskSome_Person, build in motherboard ?05:50
intelikeynot bad but restrictive05:50
semqautodetect keyb layout05:50
Some_Persondefrysk: PCI card05:50
buggzerocause in the faq i read said to disable it only if you have problems05:50
intelikeysemq sure05:50
buggzerosemq yes05:50
semqk05:50
defryskSome_Person, does your motherboard also have a build in soundcard ?05:51
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semqXKB rule set = xorg?05:51
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buggzerook, ill shut up now becuase ive been wrong like 3x05:51
Some_Persondefrysk: I don't know.05:51
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intelikeysemq yse05:51
tritiumRobNyc_C: you want dapper version?05:51
intelikeyyes05:51
defryskSome_Person, know how to get into your bios ?05:51
nickrudbuggzero, that is no reason to hide at all. How many times have you been right?05:51
tritiumRobNyc_C: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dapper/05:52
Some_Persondefrysk: My soundcard works in Windows05:52
semqkeyboard options. ?05:52
defryskSome_Person, you are not on windows now05:52
drewis free bsd any good05:52
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TrendKi||Some_Person, look at the back of your pc, if u see two sets of sound outputs u have 2 soundcards05:52
RobNyc_Ci already have the latest dapper version of ubuntu running ready to install, so i guess i'll install that and then install edubutu-desktop .. since i thought it looked better :)05:52
Some_Persondefrysk: I have a dualboot system05:52
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Some_PersonTrendKi||: I have 1 soundcard05:52
RobNyc_Chttp://distrowatch.com/346305:52
defryskSome_Person, my suggestion is first check in your bios if you have a build in mobo soundcard and disable it if you do05:53
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RobNyc_Cah yea now i see where it says for other editions05:53
Some_Persondefrysk: I don't as far as I know05:53
lavihi all,  what is the exactly name of package imagemagick? i run 'apt-get install imagemagick', but that package installed was not my meaning.05:53
Some_PersonTrendKi|| & defrysk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1488605:53
semqno options entered05:54
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drewwats a another good distro05:54
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nickrudlavi, that is the package name. If youre not seeing it, you have some bad sources.05:54
Flanneldrew: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a more appropriate place to ask05:54
semqwhat Xserver modules should I pick?05:54
drewk thx05:54
vinboyhow do I register my .so file?05:54
zak__G'day/evening/night.  I've lost a gigabyte, and I'd appreciate a hand finding it.  Problem is that "dumpe2fs -h" and "df" disagree on how many free blocks I have in this here filesystem.05:54
RobNyc_Cdoes ubuntu lets me install reiser4 ?05:55
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lavinickrud: okay05:55
nickrud!repos05:55
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource05:55
RobNyc_Cah guess not but its in the install05:55
intelikeysemq http://www.monitorworld.com  and search for your monitor make and model   get the  vertical refresh and horizonal sync rates    if you have trubble with the monitor section.     that is the biggest cause of xorg failure   impropper v/h rates.       if you have other quetions nickrud might help ya.  i'll be back in half hour or so.05:55
ctothejcan you configure dual head to work with the standard vesa driver?05:55
nickrudlavi, I suggest replacing your sources with the surces matching your distro abov05:55
semqok ty intellikey05:55
lavinickrud: that is, i have to compile that package own.05:55
intelikeynp05:55
nickrudintelikey, :)05:56
semqty much for tips05:56
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Some_PersonMy beepy speaker sometimes beeps in Ubuntu!05:56
RobNyc_Chow many users here are using X1000 series ati cards?05:56
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Some_PersonWhat does that mean?05:56
ctothejRobNyc_C: i am05:56
RobNyc_Cctothej, which one05:56
RobNyc_Ci got the x1600 pro 512mb05:56
ctothejx190005:56
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TrendKi||Some_Person, yeah it doesnt see your sound card05:57
jrattner1!dapper05:57
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then05:57
lavinickrud: great advise. but, it seems that i cannt well get a good mirror site on deb. could you plz gimme a link for that?05:57
nickrudlavi, no, just get it from the repos. But, imagemagick is in main, which makes me concerned about your sourcws05:57
semqbrb05:57
TrendKi||Some_Person, how about the output from the lspci command?05:57
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ctothejRobNyc_C: did you get the new ati driver working?05:57
RobNyc_Cctothej, yup did u05:57
nickrudlavi, http:archive.ubuntu.com05:57
audisamWHY ubunto cannot install PHP4 and here is the example http://pastebin.com/74839505:57
RobNyc_Cati released the 8.25 ati drivers now05:57
defryskmethinks : a build in souncard05:57
semqwhat xorg modules should I load?05:57
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DrBanzaiRobNyc_C, Are they any better?05:58
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ctothejRobNyc_C not yet. i am trying right now actually. i get a black screen after install05:58
lavinickrud: all of links need to test the speed on connecting?05:58
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ctothejany suggestions?05:58
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RobNyc_Cctothej, you're using the ubuntu drivers or the ati ones05:58
Some_PersonI'm now on mIRC05:58
RobNyc_CDrBanzai, im not sure yet i will see after i install dapper now and then install the drivers from repository and see what glxgears -printfps gives me05:58
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nickrudlavi, that is an issue, but reliabilty of sources is better than speed. And archive.ubuntu.com is fast05:59
ctothejRobNyc_C i followed the directions to use the ubuntu drivers from dapper.05:59
audisamCann anybody analyze this error http://pastebin.com/74839505:59
defryskSome_Person, check the back of your pc and see if you have "double" plugholes for sound and stuff05:59
Some_PersonWhere does WINE install programs to?05:59
lavinickrud: thx a lot. i got it05:59
RobNyc_Ci was running the 8.25 version drivers from ati site i got with the ati installer, in Parsix (Debian SId) distro and i was getting 2700 fps =\ that sucks we'll see how much i get with ubuntu05:59
Some_Persondefrysk: I have 1 plughole!05:59
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defryskokok05:59
RobNyc_Cctothej, i followed it and it w orked fine for me05:59
TrendKi||Some_Person, into the .wine directory in your home directory05:59
RobNyc_Cctothej, u can try the ati installer which is even easier05:59
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Fly_Molohey can someone help me reach the ubuntu desktop?06:00
Some_PersonWhere's the .wine directory?06:00
RobNyc_Cu'll probably benefit more since its 8.25 version which i dont think Linux has yet or at least im not sure06:00
Fly_Moloi just installed 5.10 on my laptop06:00
Fly_Moloand it wont boot into the desktop06:00
TrendKi||Some_Person, in your home directory06:00
nickrudsemq, since intelikey put me on the spot (i've done the same to him) what's the issue?06:00
bimberiaudisam: universe repository enabled?06:00
dblpdHi, I can't get any audio to work in ubuntu. it makes mention of a sound server of some sort? any suggestions?06:00
tritiumFly_Molo: what's happening?06:00
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ctothejwhen i run fglrxinfo, it says "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!"06:00
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RobNyc_Cctothej, have u checked the forums ?06:01
Fly_Moloi just installed the DVD 5.10 ubuntu on my HP Pavillion zv600006:01
audisambimbri: I did  try that but it said that cound not find or enable it06:01
Fly_Moloand i set up the language and partitioned the HD06:01
nanotalkhi, can kernel-module-ntfs read protected ntfs folder ? (folder with password)06:01
bimberiaudisam: put your sources.list on the pastegin06:01
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bimberi*bin06:01
Fly_Moloafter the install it goes into a DOS-interface and asks me to login06:01
ctothejRobNyc_C ive been searching. still have more to read though06:02
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Fly_Moloi got lost from there06:02
RobNyc_Cctothej, go for it06:02
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audisambimbri: how to obtain those informations?06:02
RobNyc_Cctothej, im triple-booting my pc with xp pro, osx86 and linux =]  .. so my x1600 is being good use06:02
Fly_Moloive checked all over the forums for info and found nothing that can help me reach the ubuntu interface06:02
Some_PersonNow, why wont my soundcard work?06:02
audisambimbri:  i tried this and i endup gettin this error : audisam@ubuntu:~$ sudo a2enmod php406:03
audisamThis module does not exist!06:03
semqSome1 Help me: I don't know what modules to pick in xorg conf06:03
Fly_Moloi am running breezy badger06:03
humboltwhat do you guys think about root on LVM?06:03
Fly_Moloand its telling me that the graphical interface is not set correctly06:03
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audisambimbri:   it says that this modue does not exist that is used to enable php4 and I cannot even find phh4 folder in my /ect/06:03
brettHas anyone installed Handbrake in Dapper?06:03
upupHelp - I need to get WINE up asap - Can anyone provide guidance, web links, love, sympathy, etc.....06:03
bimberiaudisam: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:03
tritiumFly_Molo: please try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to properly setup the windowing system06:04
argpirateupup, frankscorner.org06:04
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semqtritium: what modules should I pick in this config?06:04
Will123hi, i'm trying to edit a parition, and i'm not sure which filesystem I should use. I want to use NTFS, but it doesn't give me this option. Should I just use FAT32?06:04
tritiumsemq: it's up to you06:04
ramblingturtlemy sound does not work on dapper now but did work on hoary the device manager sees the soundblaster card but it is not installed any help would be apperciated06:04
tritiumsemq: the defaults are fine06:04
semqshould I pick all of them?06:05
upupargpirate: much love in your general direction, thanks mate !06:05
semqok06:05
TiG4--- Is it just me, or can I no longer customize the way my buddy list looks in GAIM 2.0b3 in Dapper ---06:05
audisambimbri:   here what I got in this SOURCE_LIST06:05
audisambimbri:  http://pastebin.com/74840206:05
BioVorEwe doing dapper yet?06:05
crimsunramblingturtle: pastebin ``lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer''06:05
tritiumno, not yet, BioVorE06:05
nickrudnonix4, a few hours yet06:05
crimsunramblingturtle: then tell me the url06:05
capgadgetLOL audisam I was expecting a 100 line long flood.06:05
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BioVorEwell.. I catch it in the morning.. night yall06:05
nickrudI hate tab completion sometimes06:06
bimberiaudisam: uncomment lines 19,20,35,36 then update and retry06:06
nickrudsemq, ah, X. intelikey sent you at me for a reason then06:06
Fly_Molook i ran that and im still at a DOS-like interface06:07
nickrudas long as it's not ati06:07
Some_PersonCan anyone get my soundcard working?06:07
audisambimbri:   done ! Let me try now06:08
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ramblingturtlecrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1488706:08
Fly_Moloit wont let me restart, and its saying that i need to be a superuser06:08
Some_PersonFly_Molo: Do you have an nVidia videocard?06:08
TiG4--- Is it just me, or can I no longer customize the way my buddy list looks in GAIM 2.0b3 in Dapper ---06:08
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Will123bleh, i'm not sure what to do on the partion disks step of installation. do i need to just use FAT32?06:08
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Fly_Molonegative its an ATi Mobility Radeon X20006:08
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crimsunramblingturtle: ``lsmod''06:09
Fly_MoloHP Pavillion zv6000 laptop06:09
Fly_Moloand nothing much on the forums that have helped me so far06:09
Some_PersonFly_Molo: sudo reboot06:09
Fly_Molothanks06:13
audisambimbri:   what's that??06:13
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Fly_Moloits still telling me that the graphical interface doesent work though06:13
bimberiaudisam: never mind06:13
nickrudrflol06:13
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bimberistop it nickrud :P06:13
nickrudcan't help it06:13
semqIve a problem: when i type X -configure, it says "missing output drivers"06:13
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nickrudsemq, the tool of choice is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:13
tonyyarussoWill123: ext3 is the default/recommended.06:13
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Some_PersonFly_Molo: Type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"06:13
Will123okay06:13
Some_Personselect the VESA driver06:13
ramblingturtlecrimsun: its there now06:13
semqthats what i just did06:13
audisambimbri:  its something with ubuntu server because it can not locate files there06:13
semqdpkg reconfig06:13
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crimsunramblingturtle: url?06:13
semqbut it doesnt fix my problem06:13
ramblingturtlecrimsun: its the same06:13
rob138what is the difference between the ubuntu install CD's and DVD's?06:13
bimberiaudisam: what's the error?06:13
crimsunramblingturtle: then please tell me so next time :-)06:13
nickrudsemq, what video card do you have? if you're not sure, do sudo lspci and paste the results on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/06:13
semqFX 520006:13
nickrudsemq, my card :006:13
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tonyyarussorob138: DVDs have more stuff.06:13
crimsunramblingturtle: (fwiw, the URL /does/ differ)06:13
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Some_PersonFly_Molo: You still there?06:13
Fly_Moloyes i am here06:14
Fly_Moloi just ran it06:14
Fly_Moloand i rebooted06:14
rob138tonyyarusso, like what? is there a wiki or something that shows what packages are included?06:14
h3h_timowhat is a good application for extracting rar files?? like 7zip?06:14
Some_PersonFly_Molo: Does it work?06:14
tritiumFly_Molo: did you see the ati wiki page?06:14
ramblingturtlecrimsun: sorry about that06:14
nickrudsemq, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx06:14
RobNyc_Ci just installed dapper and i dont remember it asking me where i wanted grub to be installed ..06:14
crimsunramblingturtle: ``sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1 && amixer''06:14
Fly_Molodidnt work06:14
Fly_Moloand yes i did see the wiki page06:14
Some_PersonFly_Molo: Did you try the VESA driver?06:14
Fly_Moloit was confusing to say the least06:14
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Fly_Molonegative i didnt try the vesa driver06:15
nickrudsemq, type that in a terminal, tell me when it's done06:15
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Some_PersonFly_Molo: Try it. It worked for my nvidia card.06:15
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semqE: impossible to find linux-restricted-modules-2.12.10-k7 something06:15
audisambimbri:  here what the error is now ! http://pastebin.com/74841606:15
tonyyarussorob138: I don't know if there is, but I think it might have universe/multiverse, or at least KDE/Gnome/XFCE on one disk.  (Not exactly sure.)06:15
audisamcan not locate files on server06:15
Fly_Molowould it work for an ATi card?06:15
Some_PersonFly_Molo: I don't know.06:15
rob138tonyrusso okay06:15
tritiumFly_Molo: it generally does, although nvidia support is a bit better06:15
Some_PersonFly_Molo: But you've got nothing to lose.06:16
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Fly_Molowell can i get a walkthrough06:16
nickrudsemq, ok. you have bad sources. We'll step back a step.06:16
Fly_Moloyes thats true06:16
semq:006:16
nickrudsemq, hem.06:16
ramblingturtlecrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1488906:16
semqi just rebooted it loads kde :)06:16
nickrudsemq, please put the exact error you get with that command on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/06:16
semqafter dpkg reconfig06:16
bimberiaudisam: sudo apt-get update06:16
ph0n3b03update . . . yes . . .06:16
semqive french version nick06:16
tritiumFly_Molo: if you don't need 3D accel, you could simply try the open ati driver (ati, rather than fglrx)06:16
semqmessage in french06:17
nickrudsemq, I've seen that before, np06:17
Fly_Molohow do i do that?06:17
ph0n3b03apt-get update06:17
semqok ty m806:17
Some_PersonFly_Molo: Type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select the VESA driver.06:17
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tritiumFly_Molo: above instructions, but select "ati" driver06:17
ph0n3b03yah06:17
ph0n3b03sorry06:17
Some_PersonFly_Molo: Try both.06:17
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Fly_Molorgr06:17
blanky!requirements06:17
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, blanky06:17
tritiumFly_Molo: I'd be surprised if that wasn't setup by default during install06:17
audisambimberi: should i try again now?06:17
blanky!minimumrequirements06:17
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, blanky06:18
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Will123okay, i don't understand this. I'm trying to use a partition as Ext3, but it gives me an error and says no root system? what do i have to do.06:18
bimberiaudisam: yep06:18
Some_PersonWill123: Select your ext3 partition and change it from /dev/whatever to /06:18
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audisambimberi: loooks like its downlonding it now  :)06:18
Will123okay, thanks06:18
Will123mount point?06:19
Some_Personyep06:19
Will123oh i see06:19
audisambimberi:  IT still doing it gimmy one more secon :)06:19
Some_PersonGah, 2 weeks on ubuntu, and I'm helping people.06:19
Will123okay, what is the mount point?06:19
Some_Personits .06:19
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Fly_Molook i tried both and im getting this message: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.20060530141806:19
Some_PersonWill123: select "/"06:19
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achandrahello.06:19
crimsunramblingturtle: excellent. now: amixer set 'Master' on && amixer set 'Master' 80% && amixer set 'PCM' on && amixer set 'PCM' 77% && amixer set 'Surround' on && amixer set 'Wave' on && amixer set 'Wave' 77% && amixer set 'Wave Center' 77% && amixer set 'Wave LFE' 77% && amixer set 'Wave Surround' 77% && amixer set 'AC97' 100% && amixer set 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack' on && amixer set 'Sigmatel Surround' on && amixer set 'Sigmatel Su06:20
hedrek!smb4k06:20
ubotuhedrek: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:20
Will123haha, okay, i did, i'm just trying to make sure i learn what everything is.06:20
Some_Personubotu should be banned, he's useless06:20
ubotuSome_Person: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:20
Some_Personubotu, who made you?06:20
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Some_Person06:20
Some_Personlol06:20
achandradoes anFreeNodeyone know how to adjust the synaptic touch pad settings? mine is way to sensitive and executes a click or doublick even when i move the mouse around..06:20
Fly_Molowait i got it w00t!06:20
ph0n3b03arg!06:20
Fly_Molothanks06:20
nickrudSome_Person, it just takes knowing what to ask. And don't abuse the bot06:21
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Fly_Molothanks alot guys06:21
Some_Personnickrud: ok06:21
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achandrasee what i mean? sorry for typo..06:21
Some_PersonFly_Molo: which one worked?06:21
Fly_Molothat was my first time inside linux06:21
Fly_MoloVESA driver06:21
nickrudSome_Person, bot's are stupid, true06:21
Some_PersonFly_Molo: thought so06:21
Fly_Molonow how do i go about changing the resolution06:21
ramblingturtlecrimsun: what did you just say?06:21
Fly_MoloThank you very much Some_Person06:21
Fly_Molo*hug*06:21
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crimsunramblingturtle: copy and paste that entire command.06:22
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Some_PersonFly_Molo: lol, I've only been on ubuntu 2 weeks06:22
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Handsomeirc.cbn.net.id06:22
DrBanzaiAnybody else have trouble moving large files over to a samba file server?06:22
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audisambimberi:  check this out http://pastebin.com/74842506:22
Will123okay, it wants me to make a partition for swap space. how big does it need to be?06:22
ph0n3b03how large06:22
Some_PersonFly_Molo: and its my first linux ever06:22
ramblingturtlecrimsun: thank you06:22
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nickrudsemq_, how's it going?06:22
Some_PersonFly_Molo: To change resolution, go to System>Preferences>Screen Resolution06:23
Fly_Molothank you06:23
ph0n3b03DrBansai: How large?06:23
semq_i'm in linux now ;)06:23
semq_ty nick06:23
DrBanzaiph0n3b03, It's over 4 gig06:23
Some_PersonI'm on mIRC in Linux06:23
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audisambimberi:  does it mean that apache already exist or that it can not be downloaded?06:23
SurfnKid!smtp06:23
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid06:23
semq_now i'd like to export my gnome to kde06:23
SurfnKidget off the drugs ubotu just help me out06:23
ctothejhow do i restart x without restarting the computer?06:24
nickrudsemq_, it's close to bedtime, so ...06:24
SurfnKid:P06:24
ph0n3b03Hmmm . . . I don't have many files that big.  But, no.06:24
dblpdcrimsum: can you give me a hand with my sound too?06:24
Some_PersonSurfinKid: SMTP is an e-mail sending server06:24
ramblingturtlecrimsun: it doesn't do anything06:24
semq_where's intel? hu06:24
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semq_nite nick06:24
crimsunramblingturtle: did you test with ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''?06:24
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crimsundblpd: pastebin the same thing I asked06:24
semq_;)06:24
ctothejRobNyc_C: i got it finally..06:24
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nickrudsemq_, he's gone for a bit, he handed me off to you.06:24
SurfnKidright but im trying to figure out if my ubuntu has it set up06:25
SurfnKidhow can i check06:25
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Some_PersonSurfinKid: Go to your e-mail program (Ubuntu comes with Evolution)06:25
RobNyc_Cctothej, good what u did06:25
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Will123it wants me to make swap space for installation. How big does a swap parition usually have to be?06:25
ramblingturtlecrimsun: no nothing played with that command06:25
Some_PersonWill123: Mine is 1000MB06:25
dblpdcrimsum: mine says no such device06:25
Will123okay06:26
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ph0n3b03Will123: Good rule 2x memory06:26
ctothejRobNyc_C: used method #2, installed the drivers manually06:26
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ctothejusing restricted modules06:26
RobNyc_Cfrom the ati site ? using the installer ? ctothej06:26
SurfnKidSome_person my ISP doesnt let me use their SMTP server, so I have to relay somewhere, and I used Win2kAdvSrv SMTP but now I wanna send thru ubuntu06:26
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ctothejRobNyc_C: from the ati site, creating the .deb packages06:26
ramblingturtlecrimsun: after pasting that last command all that happens is this symbol pops up after hitting enter > on the next line06:26
RobNyc_Cctothej, oh cool i should read about it then06:27
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achandraanyone know how to configure the synaptics touch pad?06:27
ctothejRobNyc_C: i just need to get dual head working now06:27
Some_PersonSurfinKid: PM me06:27
RobNyc_Cgoodluck06:27
crimsunramblingturtle: you made a typo, then06:27
DarkTowerWill123: 1.5 times size of RAM, good rule of thumb06:27
Some_PersonSurfinKid: You can use my old ISP's e-mail06:27
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RobNyc_CI just installed edubuntu-desktop so now how do I log into it ?06:28
crimsunramblingturtle: you need to copy and paste /exactly/ what I gave you (minus any instructions, of course)06:28
crimsundblpd: which command?06:29
ramblingturtlecrimsun: cool06:29
dblpdcrimsum: ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''06:29
crimsundblpd: no, I need the previous output (see the lpci -v ... command)06:30
Will123darktower: thanks06:30
dblpdcrimsum: lpci -v?06:31
tonyyarussoRobNyc_C: What did you have before?06:31
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adamant1988Robnyc_C: you should have been given the oppertunity to setup a user account when you installed...06:31
lavinickrud: i ve a Q,  what is the diff between dapper and brezy in dists, or  can you gimme a link on it for understanding?06:31
RobNyc_Ctonyyarusso, ubuntu06:31
crimsundblpd: scroll up 26 minutes.06:31
RobNyc_Cadamant1988, huh06:31
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bimberiaudisam: it means that apache2 is already installed06:31
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jmoncayois there any other way to install ubuntu if you dont have a workable cdrom and floppy06:32
nemesishow to stop pcmia services, cause when i eject my pcmia card ubuntu crashes06:32
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adamant1988Robnyc_C: When installations install on your system they have a step to setup a root password and a user account.  Did you not get that step?06:32
Draslahow do I configure a program to always run on boot?06:32
wormsarmhi m8s06:32
tonyyarussoRobNyc_C: Then it's just a matter of getting different programs I think, so you log in as usual.  It may have a different desktop setup though - if that's the case you would select it by clicking "Sessions" at the login screen before putting in your credentials.06:32
crimsunjmoncayo: over the network via pxe if your bios supports it06:32
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nickrudlavi, breezy is the release made in october of 2005 (5.10) Dapper is the release that's coming up in a day or so, on june 1 (6.06). Hopefully, dapper will be better on your machine06:32
audisambimberi:  it looks that i installed Apache 2 , php4 and now I am at the point "After Installing MYSQL"06:32
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tonyyarussoDrasla: On boot or Gnome login?06:32
dblpdcrimsum: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1489106:32
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bimberiaudisam: kk06:33
firestormWhen I try to run apache I get this error(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :8006:33
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Draslatonyyarusso: On boot.  I'm trying to set up a monitor for my RAID06:33
RobNyc_Ctonyyarusso, i didnt see edubuntu in the sessions list06:33
crimsundblpd: for your sanity and mine, please spell my nick correctly, or my highlight won't trigger and I'll never see your responses to me06:33
wormsarmI really need to run worms armageddon with wine, but when I'm going to install it... the game can't start the instalation (wine does well but the game doesn't install) Anyone knows why?06:33
SurfnKid:P06:33
lavinickrud: ok, thx :)06:33
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dblpdcrimsun: i'm sorry i thought that was an 'm'06:33
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RobNyc_Cbut intstead now afte ri rebooted, it logs into edubuntu as default and did that take off ubuntu-desktop ?06:34
jmoncayocrimsun, any other?06:34
ctothej_how do i restart x server?06:34
crimsundblpd: which isa sound card do you have?06:34
tonyyarussoDrasla: You put the script in /etc/init.d/ and then use the update-rc.d command to set it to runlevels.  man update-rc.d should tell you more.06:34
nickrudand, since I'm about to disassemble my installation here tonight, not to be put back  together until friday at least, I'm gonna miss all the agony. I hope all the supporters here have nothing but good experiences with this release.06:34
crimsunthat's it.06:34
dblpdit's an onboard card06:34
Draslatonyyarusso: thanks06:34
Madpilotanyone actually successfully used the update-manager to get from Breezy to Dapper? It's aborting on me with an error that makes no sense at all about disc space...06:34
tonyyarussoRobNyc_C: Then I'd guess it's just extra programs probably...06:34
audisambimberi:   ok following the instructions  I came to the point where i need to type in this command  sudo ./bin/mysql_install_db --user=mysql06:34
crimsundblpd: that's not specific enough06:34
crimsundblpd: if all else fails, tell me the precise make & model computer, then open your case and look for the sound card information06:34
bimberiRobNyc_C: edubuntu won't appear in the sessions list.  Log into Gnome and you will find Apps under Applications -> Education06:35
audisambimberi: I did that and this is what I am getting http://pastebin.com/74843706:35
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RobNyc_Cbimberi, yes you're right .. so what happen to ubuntu-desktop now ? cuz i had a different gdm theme, and everythign i know the themes are still there06:35
audisambimberi: Sorry , I am new to installing  apache as well as the fact that I am the new LINUX user06:35
wormsarmanyone knows? :P06:35
bimberiaudisam: that looks fine :)06:36
dblpdcrimsun: it's an IBM aptiva E5D i found06:36
audisambimberi:  Ok now I am typing this sudo mysql -u root06:36
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audisambimberi: and i am getting this error ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)06:36
audisamaudisam@ubuntu:/usr$ sudo mysql -u root06:36
ramblingturtlecrimsun: thank you very much i now have sound and as far as I can tell everything works great but that last part of the command did not work for me all i see is amixer set 'Sigmatel Su is this correct?06:37
crimsundblpd: ``pnpdump''06:37
bimberiRobNyc_C: that i'm not sure about sorry.  It might still be available via System -> Admin -> Login Screen Setup (iirc)06:37
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dblpdcrimsun: i thnk is has a "Crystal SRS 3-D audi card:06:37
crimsunramblingturtle: your buffer's too short, then.06:37
cybersicki am having a problem installing ubuntu in my pc06:37
cybersickwho can help me??06:37
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crimsunramblingturtle: amixer set 'Sigmatel Surround' on && amixer set 'Sigmatel Surround' 77%06:37
dblpdcrimsun: pnpdump doesnt do anything in the terminal? is there something else I should type wiht it?06:38
crimsunramblingturtle: now for good measure, let's make it load on boot automatically: ``echo snd-emu10k1 |sudo tee -a /etc/modules''06:38
dblpdcrimsun: (i'm new with linux)06:38
crimsundblpd: ``lspnp -v''06:38
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wormsarmwhy emulating with wine a installation of a windows program doesn't work??06:39
ramblingturtlecrimsun: thank you thank you!06:40
dblpdcrimsun: that returns bad command?06:40
crimsundblpd: install isapnptools from universe06:40
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cybersickwhen i am installing ubuntu 5.10 on my 64-bit pc (with the 64-bit-version cd) it detects the DVD-RW drive but then it stops reading the cd????06:41
dblpdcrimsun: it says it can't find it?06:41
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cybersickno06:41
cybersickit 'continues' to read it06:41
BrianHHHi, Everyone.  I'm having trouble getting my Palm T5 to sync.  It's hooked up to a hub.  I can see it in /proc/bus/usb/devices, but I can't seem to access it.  Can someone help me figure out what port to point /dev/pilot to?06:41
cybersickbut the drive led doesnt even blink06:42
dblpdcrimsun: apt-get install isapnptools ?06:42
cybersickand it hangs at 0%06:43
audisambimberi: and i am getting this error ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)06:43
crimsundblpd: yes06:43
cybersick=/06:43
encompassBrianHH: have you tried it without a hub?  That was my problem06:43
dblpdcrimsun: it says it couldnt find the package?06:43
crimsundblpd: then enabled universe06:43
Will123cybersick: the cd could be messed up. I had to use a different burner because of bad CDs.06:43
cybersickno06:43
dblpdit is06:43
crimsundblpd: are you running breezy or dapper?06:43
dblpddapper06:43
RobNyc_C!sources06:43
crimsundblpd: it doesn't exist in dapper06:43
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource06:43
dblpdoh06:43
cybersickWill123: u mean i have to change the drive to a cd-rom???06:43
RobNyc_C!easysource06:43
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:43
crimsundblpd: you'll need to do research on your own and tell me more information.06:43
RobNyc_Cshould I uncomment the security universe sources ?06:43
dblpdcrimsun: lol, ok thanks man06:43
encompassBrianHH: did you hear me?06:43
BrianHHencompass:  I had it working through the hub yesterday.  That's what's frustrating to me.  I had to reinstall the whole machine 'cause I screwed up jre.06:44
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bimberiaudisam: sorry, i don't know what the issue is there :/06:44
BrianHHSorry, encompass.  Just slow typing.06:44
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encompassI have a python question and I can't seem to get into the python channel,... it is a simple one... my I ask it here?06:44
cybersickWill123: i have like 5 cds of it, but all of them do the same...06:44
borkI'm plugging in a usb drive, and it is powering up, but it is not being picked up the file explorer. Any ideas?06:44
encompassBrianHH: very interesting... was it plug and play for you the last time?06:45
Will123oh, hmm.. your cd rom could be damaged?06:45
cybersickno06:45
cybersickbecause i was using windows (arghhh) until today06:45
cybersickand it was working wonderfully06:45
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BrianHHencompass:  It wasn't exactly plug and play.  I had to figure out what port to use it on.  But I can't remember which port that was.  I tried all the ttyUSB ports I could find...06:46
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Madpilotencompass, try #ubuntu-offtopic, there's some programming chat going on there right now, actually.06:46
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cybersickso i think i must type a specific command to the setup, but i dont know what to do06:47
encompassBrianHH: try this... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77387&highlight=Palm+T506:47
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BrianHHThanks, encompass.  I'll check it out. :)06:48
jcapoteright now im running 6.06 lts, and just ran some updates, what happens june 1st when it comes out, will it just be a small update away, or will it be this huge deal06:48
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encompassMadpilot: thanks06:48
gnu2it2any recomendations on a point of sale app? real store and internet storefront06:49
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cybersickok lets try work something different for me then06:49
jcapoteanyone?06:49
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cybersickwhat happens if i try to install a 32-bit version in my 64-bit computer??06:49
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cgardnerhas anyone got wpa_supplicant working using the ipw driver?06:50
wenkousually a melt down06:50
Some_PersonI love Ubuntu06:50
wenkosame06:50
SurfnKidso do I =D06:50
encompassMe too Some_Person06:50
cybersickme too06:50
cybersickbut i want it working on my 64-bit computeer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!106:50
wenkoall who love ubuntu in the feek'n #ubuntu channel raise your hnd   :P06:50
crimsuncybersick: you can install 32-bit ubuntu on a 64-bit x86_64ish06:50
SurfnKidhaha06:50
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crimsuncgardner: I do.06:51
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cybersickcrimsun: what's x86_64ish?06:51
crimsuncybersick: an amd64 or emt6406:51
cgardnercrumsun, did you get the Operation not Supported messages at all?06:51
Will123yah, mine is about is about through with installing. i'm mostly worried about getting my little wifi card to work (laptop)06:51
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crimsuncgardner: no, wpasupplicant works fine under dapper on this thinkpad x41-252706:51
cybersickcrimsun: i'm not sure if thats mine. i have a pentium4 ht 3.4ghz 64bit 2mb cache06:52
crimsuncybersick: that's emt6406:52
cgardnercrimsun: did you just follow the instructions on the wiki?06:52
cybersickcrimsun: ok06:52
cybersickcrimsun: but what can i do about the DVD-RW drive?06:52
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tonyyarussocgardner: I never tried wpa_supplicant on Breezy or through cli, but with the NetworkManager applet on Dapper on this Thinkpad WPA works fine.06:53
Will123cgardner, is gardner your last name? Haha06:53
cybersickcrimsun: its weird how it simply stop working right06:53
crimsuncgardner: no, I'm fairly familiar w/ wpasupplicant, so I used the included documentation. I don't use network-manager.06:53
wenkoIt makes a GREAT drink holder!06:53
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tianwho is asper about sound card here?????06:53
crimsuncgardner: that's an awfully vague question06:53
crimsuntian: "asper"?06:53
tianyea06:54
crimsuntian: do you need assistance with sound?06:54
cgardnercrimsun: my original one?  I just was curious as to whether it was done.06:54
wenko"asper" in06:54
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tiani mean expert06:54
wenko:P06:54
crimsuncgardner: "the original one"?06:54
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crimsuntian: there are no experts, but there are knowledgeable people. Just ask.06:54
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tianhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18504406:56
james_xxcrimsun, could you tell me again what to type in the terminal to upgrsde from xubuntu breezy to xubuntu dapper?06:56
tiani post my question there06:56
SurfnKidSome_person I just tested my ISP, they re-enabled sending mail06:56
wormsarmpals06:56
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wormsarmwhere can I download winex06:56
wormsarmI don't find it on synaptics06:57
BrianHHencompass:  I screwed something up and gpilot won't run now...Damn.06:57
tianany idea?06:57
SurfnKid!smtp server06:57
ubotuSurfnKid: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:57
Some_Person,Yay! My mIRC script works in WINE06:57
SurfnKidcan someone suggest a good smtp-server ??06:57
crimsuntian: please be patient, we can't read your mind06:57
Some_PersonWINE is great!06:57
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tianok06:58
wormsarmsome_person06:58
wormsarmmaybe you runned worms armageddon on wine??06:58
Will123is WINE like a seperate program i will have to download06:58
Some_Personyes06:58
Some_PersonGet the .deb file06:58
stjepanhow to get "computer" menu in gnome?06:58
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crimsunjames_xx: info was sent (again) to you06:59
Will123well, i'll have to learn how to install it. haha06:59
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majdHi06:59
majdi just followed the tutorial at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Installing_Dapper.27s_Included_Driver_.288.25.18.29 to install my ati driver,06:59
Some_PersonWill123: sudo dpkg --install /path/to/file.deb06:59
crimsuntian: pastebin ``amixer'' output06:59
majdbut when i run flgrxinfo, i get a whole lot of API errors06:59
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majdsuch as: [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for GenerateMipmapEXT06:59
audisambimberi: I think i found the problem06:59
Some_Persong2g06:59
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BrianHHIs gnome-pilot one package?  I think I need to nuke it and start over...06:59
Some_Personbye06:59
Will123thanks06:59
wormsarmsome_person07:00
wormsarmomg07:00
audisambimberi:   it ask me to do this first sudo mysql -u root07:00
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audisambimberi:   it ask me to do this first   ***  to set the password for sql  root user07:01
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stjepanHow to get this menu "Computer" in the top left corner? http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/img/transparency1.jpg07:01
tiani just did07:01
janus112hhallo07:02
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crimsuntian: url?07:02
tian?07:03
tianwhat's that mean?07:03
crimsuntian: where did you paste the info?07:03
torpedo|dogstjepan: If I'm not mistaken, that's the "Main Menu", however, Applications/Places/System fulfills the same role.07:03
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tianhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071079#post107107907:03
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stjepantorpedo|dog: it's not.07:04
torpedo|dogI'm mistaken :)07:04
stjepantorpedo|dog: see http://img287.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4xi.png07:04
torpedo|dogI guess that's some applet you have to get.07:04
Madpilotstjepan, that must be a customized version of Gnome07:05
crimsuntian: amixer set 'Surround' on && amixer set 'Surround' 77% && amixer set 'Center' on && amixer set 'Center' 77% && amixer set 'LFE' on && amixer set 'LFE' 77% && amixer set 'Side' on && amixer set 'Side' 77%07:05
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stjepanMadpilot: it's SuSE :)07:05
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tianso??07:06
Madpilotright, running a custom version of Gnome as the desktop07:06
tianwhat should i do?07:06
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crimsuntian: copy and paste what I just gave you into a Terminal07:06
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tianok, i did what you said07:06
crimsuntian: now test with a movie or something07:07
tianyessssssss07:07
stjepananyhone here good at GIMP?07:07
tianthey all works now07:07
tianthanks a lot07:08
SurfnKidnot good at GIMP                                           yet07:08
tianonemore07:08
Will123woo hoo Ubuntu is finished installing ;D i like on the nifty sounds, haha07:08
tianhow could i adjust the volume for each speaker?07:09
crimsuntian: use the volume control in the panel07:09
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Will123maybe ubuntu won't cause my laptop to overheat and burn my legs.. :(07:10
detectivecyborgis there any terminal for ubuntu live cd?07:11
tianhow?07:11
torpedo|dogdetectivecyborg: Applications>Accessories>Terminal07:11
crimsuntian: secondary-click the volume control and choose Open..07:11
detectivecyborgI just came fro gentoo, and I like Ubuntu, much less hassels, although I only judging by the looks07:11
detectivecyborgcool thanks07:12
majdi just followed the tutorial at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Installing_Dapper.27s_Included_Driver_.288.25.18.29 to install my ati driver,07:12
majdbut when i run flgrxinfo, i get a whole lot of API errors07:12
majdsuch as: [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for GenerateMipmapEXT07:12
tianwhat's PCM mean?07:12
Fly_Moloi cant get my internet working on my copy of ubuntu07:12
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Will123i can't either : /07:14
detectivecyborgDSL?07:14
Will123i'm using on of those laptop wifi cards07:14
jrsimsI heard there would be drop-shadows in Dapper/Gnome. That true?07:14
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Will123that go into the side? anyone know where i can get some info into installing them properly?07:14
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detectivecyborgI have DSL all I had to do it enter the DNS into networking properties07:15
tianand i cant install motherbord, Video and sound dirver for winXP on VMWare, is that just the way it is?07:15
intelikeyi'm back07:15
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detectivecyborgand I love it07:15
jrsimsWill123: you need to read about PCMCIA. Wish I had a link or knew how to kick you in the right direction, but you can start there. PCMIA is the slot your putting your wifi card into.07:15
jrsimssorry. PCMCIA07:15
RobNyc!ati07:15
ubotusomebody said ati was http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI07:15
llTUXi just installed ubuntu on a powermac g4 and the microphone doesnt seem to be enabled, it is enabled in the mixers but all mute in "effect"07:15
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Will123oh, thanks. haha, i don't know a lot of the termonology07:16
SurfnKidhow can i see the postfix smtp config?07:16
treknaHello peoples07:16
jrsimsWill123: yeah, if you do a search on the ubuntu forums, I'm sure there's an answer. Shouldn't be too hard.07:16
Fly_Molocan someone help me setup my ATi driver files on Ubuntu?07:17
majdFly_Molo, breezy?07:17
detectivecyborgwill there be a ubuntu install comming out soon?07:17
SurfnKidnevermind i found smtp documents on it07:18
majdFly_Molo,  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide07:18
Fly_MoloMajd: yes07:18
majdthat worked for me in breezy07:18
siccnessAnyone know how long GnomeBaker's supposed to take when blanking a cdrw?07:18
Fly_Molothank you07:18
intelikeydetectivecyborg dapper07:18
stjepanwill any GIMPer do me a little favour?07:19
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SurfnKidcan anyone see this http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/07:20
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jrsimsanyone know if there's a repository with Bluefish?07:21
intelikeySurfnKid looks like it's gonna time out07:21
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distanceisdeathI want to use Frostwire.  But it isn't starting up.  What to do?07:22
trekna I've just recently put ubuntu (5.10)  and have been trying to set things up so I can watch the occasional dvd on it. So far I've gotten dvds to play, but they are choppy, not very choppy, but enough to be an annoyance.07:22
matth-wHello, question. Is there a client for msn messenger that has support for webcam broadcast and recive?07:22
treknaer... on my av3715 that is07:22
SurfnKidi need to find info on postfix ill look some more07:24
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caraHi all07:25
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intelikeySurfnKid that host is down  can't ping it.07:27
caraI'm trying to find some information regarding the ubuntu livecd07:27
intelikeycara i don't know anything.  but you can ask07:27
caraI want to change some information in the xorg.conf but can't because I'm not sure what the root password is and how to set it.  I thought maybe it was like knoppix with no password but that's not the case.07:27
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intelikeycara there isn't one07:28
intelikeysudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:28
fLy-alternatively: sudo passwd root07:28
carahmm I dind't think about that07:28
fLy-to set one07:28
caralol07:28
caraman07:28
caraserious brain farts07:28
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intelikey!root07:29
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.07:29
caraHmm07:29
fLy-works for me07:29
caraok because I was looking on the ubunto site for some info but got lost lol07:29
caraso its in the wiki07:29
jrsimswhat's the "universe" repository for?07:30
intelikeyother planets ???07:30
fLy-not good enough07:30
fLy-repent sinner!07:30
KholerabbiIs dapper released June 1st?07:30
bimberi!components07:30
ubotuThe rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components07:30
bimberiKholerabbi: yes07:30
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intelikeyjune one'st07:31
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carabb in ubuntu07:32
Healotfirst07:32
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distanceisdeathCan anyone give me step by step instructions on installing java.  No guides please.  Message me in private.07:33
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treknaFarscape, it hates me.07:33
Kholerabbiif I wanted to access root files or folders through nautilus, I would have to upon nautilus through the terminal? e.g sudo nautilus???07:34
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intelikeygksudo nautilus07:35
intelikeyKholerabbi if you use sudo you will hose things07:35
ctothejneed some help tweaking dual head config with ati driver...07:35
Kholerabbiintelikey: pardon?07:35
intelikeygksudo nautilus07:35
ctotheji cant move applications between screens..07:35
bimberi!gksudo07:36
ubotuUse gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.07:36
bimberiKholerabbi: ^^^07:36
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RobNyci dont see any smp kernesl07:36
RobNyckernels*07:36
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richiefrichwhat do u see ?07:36
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richiefrich /EXEC -o uname -a07:36
RobNycLinux ax-desktop 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux07:37
Kholerabbiok gk, but say I have entered the password, and so its activated for 15 minutes, dose that meen nautilus will have privileges?07:37
RobNyccpu[1 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz @ 3.00GHz w/ 1024 KB L2 Cache] 07:37
crimsunRobNyc: in dapper we use smp alternatives, which does detection at boot time.07:37
intelikeylinux-686-smp - Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.07:37
intelikeylinux-k7-smp - Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7 SMP.07:37
richiefrichLinux gentoo 2.6.16-gentoo-r4 #4 PREEMPT Mon May 29 22:30:19 EDT 2006 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz GNU/Linux07:37
Kholerabbi..even if I open it normally07:37
richiefrichwrong box07:37
RobNyci dont even see it in the package maanger07:37
crimsunRobNyc: thus there's no need to have separate -smp flavours. They're all smp enabled.07:37
richiefrichRobNyc u can edit it yourself07:37
RobNychow come my cpuinfo doesnt show up as 2x then :)07:37
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intelikeyKholerabbi no07:38
KholerabbiOK thanks, and could someone give me more detail on what would happen IF I did sudo on a gtk app?? and how I could fix it, just in case?07:39
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RobNyc!ati07:39
ubotuhmm... ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI07:39
vinboy is there any way to improve java's performance?07:39
RobNyc!smp07:40
ubotuI heard smp is Symmetric Multi Processing. The x86 architecture way of using multiple CPUs in one computer.07:40
Healotvinboy: ask Sun to do that07:40
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vinboylol07:40
vinboyok07:40
crimsunRobNyc: getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN07:40
vinboyi'll try to convince them07:40
Will123okay, so for some devices do i have to download the original driver? : /07:40
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RobNycCr0w-, where07:41
RobNyccrimsun, *07:41
crimsunRobNyc: at a terminal07:41
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imichelmy firefox can't function07:42
imichelcould you help me07:42
lwarimavAlloooo07:42
imichelyes07:42
intelikeyWill123 there are propriatary hardwares that have no open source support.  yes.    don't you just love copy rights and patens07:42
matth-wHello, question. Is there a client for msn messenger that has support for webcam broadcast and recive?07:42
RobNyccrimsun, it showed07:43
RobNyc107:43
crimsunRobNyc: and uname -r ?07:43
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RobNyc2.6.15-23-38607:43
Will123haha, well, i wasn't sure. i didn't think they'd work at all with Ubuntu.07:43
lwarimavI have a question, after installing an extention, I found out that I couldn't open my firefox again.... What is the problem????07:44
crimsunRobNyc: so install -68607:44
Healotcopyrights and patents are okay, just the licensing sucks07:44
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RobNyccrimsun, alright07:44
RobNycbrb07:44
intelikeyHealot capitalist !07:44
HealotI am :)07:45
Will123haha07:45
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DarkTowerCapitalism and patents are fine, but not when they impinge on advancement of industry and technology07:46
intelikeywell at least you know what you are.   i find life so confusing, i'm not even sure what i am.....07:46
sistarmy external dvd writer has recently decided to stop writing, and isn't mounting that reliabley either. Any tips on reconfigureing it?07:46
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=== farous wonder if he stepped into philosophy room ;)
lwarimavfirefox doesn't work07:47
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Will123oh man, i hope my flashdrive will work with ubuntu :(07:47
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intelikeyfarous heh  na07:47
HealotWill123: it will07:47
DarkTowerLike the amazon One Click. Yeh there's a new technology amazon, clicking something once07:47
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farousgood for i am done with philo for today ;)07:47
Mempfhey guys07:47
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Mempfim haivn problems isntallig flashplugin-nonfree on my laptop07:48
lwarimavmama mia07:48
DarkTowerK ill stop this isnt the place07:48
Mempfthe install just hangs at setting up flashplugin-nonfree07:48
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RobNycctothej, it seems with ati's 8.25 drivers i get higher fps than with ubuntu's 8.24 drivers07:48
imichelMempf, I need your help07:48
Mempfmy help?07:49
intelikeyoh go on DarkTower,  it's nice to see some one else rant for a change....07:49
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DarkTowerRobNyc: Of course, there from the manufacturer, they would be better07:49
imichelYeh07:49
Mempfgo on07:49
RobNycDarkTower, supposely somebody said open are better07:49
RobNycthan binary07:49
farousMempf: i had the same prob. I downloaded flash from their site and ran the installer. all works fine now07:49
DarkTowerintelikey: hehe thx for the support. But you havent seen me rant lol. Im stopping while im ahead07:49
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Will123omg. that's neat. the flashdrive loads fast.. ooh i'm liking this :)07:49
Mempfthe thing is07:49
imichelMy firefox doesn't work07:50
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Mempfthat wont work for me/us07:50
Mempfim helping work on automatix07:50
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Mempfwhich uses the flashplugin-nonfree07:50
DarkTowerRobNyc: Well better as in free as in speech, but it's hard to match the manufacturer in terms of video cards. I could be wrong07:50
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farousimichel: did you just upgrade?07:50
RobNycthanks im gonna try the 8.25 now since i gotta install the 686 kernel07:50
RobNyc!xgl07:51
administradorhola    alguien  que  hable espaol====???????????????????07:51
uboturumour has it, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"07:51
sistarhow do I get into kudzu or the like? and will that help?07:51
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administradoralguien   que  habe spaol07:51
intelikeyimichel doesn't work is kinda open ended isn't it ?     open a terminal and type mozilla-firefox   or what ever the name is.  and show us the error message07:51
administradoralguien   que  habe spaol07:51
administradoralguien   que  habe spaol07:51
DarkTowerDon't start me on Cadbury chocolate. They patented the color purple lol!07:52
farousRobNyc: the glitches are still there the native driver ati now support 3-d accel now just 20% lower than the prop ati one07:52
administradoralguien   que  habe spaol07:52
MortalCan I make split-screen in Nautilus?07:52
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Healot!es07:52
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:52
Mortal!es07:52
Fly_Molohow do you install the ati driver as a superuser07:52
RobNycfarous, yea i think so07:52
Fly_Moloim trying to install the ati driver and its telling me that i need to be a superuser07:52
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administradorubotu   hablais  espaol07:52
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, administrador07:52
intelikeyFly_Molo sudo07:52
blanky!ubotu07:52
administradorubotu   hablais  espaol07:52
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.07:52
farousFly_Molo: tupe sudo first before apt-get07:52
blankyadministrador, que quieres07:52
RobNycFly_Molo, sudo su07:52
intelikeysudo -i07:53
Fly_Molothanks07:53
sistarne thoughts?07:53
MortalCan I make split-screen in Nautilus?07:53
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caraok07:53
caragot it07:53
RobNyccrimsun, i searched for linux-686 and i saw the linux-686-smp kernels now07:54
Fly_Molook but this is the script im using:07:54
crimsunRobNyc: they're just placeholders07:54
RobNyci thought i saw the default kernel showing as smp before07:54
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RobNycnot on this install, another install i had done a few days ago07:54
crimsunRobNyc: crimsun@garnish:~$ uname -r07:54
crimsun2.6.15-23-68607:54
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crimsungetconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN -> 107:55
RobNyc2.6.15-23-38607:55
RobNycsame07:55
farousFly_Molo: there is a howto on the forums for installing from the ati drivers you download search for it07:55
crimsun[4294668.854000]  SMP alternatives: switching to UP code07:55
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intelikeyrobnyc i posted the name ^  way up when you first asked.07:55
lwarimavcan anyone her say how to restart my firefox?????07:55
Fly_Molosudo apt-get install ati-driver-installer-8.25.18-x86_64.run07:55
RobNycintelikey, ur search results?07:55
intelikeylinux-686-smp - Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.07:55
Fly_Moloim running that script and its not working07:55
farouslwarimav: tell us what was the prob07:55
administradorubotu   hablais  espaol07:55
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, administrador07:55
TiG4-- Are there any other multiple download support bit torrent clients besides Azureus that someone can recommend to me? ---07:55
RobNycFly_Molo, wrong07:55
administradorsdfdf07:55
RobNycfollow the guide07:55
administradordsfds07:55
majdwhat can i use to test if i have 3d acceleration working?07:55
RobNycmajd, glxgears07:55
farousFly_Molo:  no sudo ./ati .... ..07:56
TiG4majd, glxgears07:56
blankyadministrador, ya callate no? no dices lo que quieres, y dudo que habla espanol07:56
blanky!spanish07:56
ubotublanky: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:56
RobNycglxgears -printfp07:56
farousbut why not install from the rops07:56
RobNycglxgears -printfps*07:56
blanky!espanol07:56
ubotublanky: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:56
TiG4-- Are there any other multiple download support bit torrent clients besides Azureus that someone can recommend to me? ---07:56
blanky!ubuntu-es07:56
ubotublanky: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:56
majdRobNyc, do they have to be moving smoothly?07:56
majdthey're very choppy07:56
blanky!#ubuntu-es07:56
ubotublanky: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:56
RobNycmajd, yup07:56
lwarimavWell I have install som extentions .....then after i tried to restart it does work07:56
RobNycif u get 1000 + u prob have 3d07:56
majdbah07:56
sistarI need to backup stuff, and my burners cactus. How do I reconfig it?07:56
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TiG4'majd, what kinda video card do you have?07:56
intelikeyubotu bot with a cat !!!07:56
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey07:56
TiG4majd, what kinda video card do you have?07:56
Fly_Molowhat would be the correct script?07:56
majdATI Radeon 920007:56
majdi had it working before07:56
jmworxAre removable CD drives supposed to be supported in Ubuntu (5.10). If so, how?07:56
farousmajd type glxinfo and see if rendering is on07:56
TiG4majd, have you installed the drivers correctly?07:57
majdi formatted, followed the same tutorial, and didn't work07:57
farousmajd: glxinfo |grep rend07:57
jmworx("removable" applies to the drive of course!)07:57
TiG4majd, did you install dapper or breezy07:57
TiG4?07:57
TiG4-- Are there any other multiple download support bit torrent clients besides Azureus that someone can recommend to me? ---07:57
RobNycbrb new kernel07:57
majdfarous, i see the gearshttp://pastebin.com/74850407:57
Will123okay, where can i learn to install this driver? it is in .exe07:57
majdthere07:57
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majdTiG4, dapper07:58
MTecknologyI'm installing Ubuntu beside my Windows install. I downloaded the correct drievers for my wireless and the rigth software. I did the command ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf and then ndiswrapper -m with the result 'moprobe config already contains alias directive' I tried to skip that and do modprobe ndiswrapper and got the result 'FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.'07:58
TiG4majd, is your card supported in dapper? Have you checked if anyone else has it working07:58
majdTiG4, i got it working before07:58
majdi know it works07:58
TiG4majd, in dapper?07:58
majdyeah07:58
MTecknologyo yea, i'm having trouble getting wireless setup in ubuntu07:58
TiG4majd, oh...07:58
farousmajd it is not turned on you do not have 3d accel07:58
TiG4majd, pci or agp?07:59
majdpci07:59
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Will123hey MT, I am too!07:59
majdgrr07:59
Will123: /07:59
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TiG4majd, check lspci, make sure that the card is being recognized07:59
MTecknologyWill123, what have you tried07:59
crysalisis there a way to modify x-chat so that it only shows the text box so that it look apart of the desktop wallpaper?07:59
farousmajd which flgrx drives you installed the one from the repos or from the ati website07:59
TiG4majd, check dmesg,make sure there are no errors from the card07:59
TiG4-- Are there any other multiple download support bit torrent clients besides Azureus that someone can recommend to me? ---07:59
Will123nothing yet, i just got it installed07:59
Will123what card do you have btw?07:59
MTecknologyBroadcom08:00
majdfarous, i downloaded a weird one from the tutorial at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Installing_Dapper.27s_Included_Driver_.288.25.18.2908:00
Will123oh.. i have linksys WPC1108:00
majdi followed method 2 by the wy08:00
majd*way08:00
farousmajd use the ones in the repos they work just fine08:00
MTecknologywell, you'll probably have better luck08:00
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farousmajd there is an extra step you need in it08:00
majdfarous, just install fglrx from synaptic?08:00
farouslet me see08:00
claytonis dapper still coming out june 1st?08:00
crimsunclayton: yes.08:00
claytonsweet08:01
claytondamnit, hold on, my name is messed up08:01
intelikeycrysalis you could do it with a borderless terminal and bx    even with transparent08:01
DarkTowercant wait08:01
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farousmajd you installed from synaptic did you uninstall the ones you had with from the howto08:01
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MTecknologyso, nobody get's to help me out??08:01
fiendskull9ok08:01
fiendskull9now im good08:01
lwarimavfv08:01
majdfarous, yeah08:01
Will123have you tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiBroadcomDriver?highlight=%28driver%2908:01
MTecknologynope08:02
lwarimavit doen work08:02
lwarimavyep08:02
farousmajd did you install the linux-restricted-modules package too08:02
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intelikeyMTecknology i've never played with ndis08:02
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farousmajd sudo apt-ge install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)08:02
lwarimavi do not know08:02
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tulgaI installed xgl on kubuntu. working well expect empty taskbar and application hasn't titlebar. howto fix these problems?08:02
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majdfarous, just a sec08:03
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RobNyccpu[2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz @ 3.00GHz w/ 1024 KB L2 Cache] 08:04
RobNyc2.6.15-23-68608:04
majdfarous, ok i already had that restricted modules08:04
RobNycthis is better08:04
intelikeytulga have you asked in #kubuntu ?08:04
MTecknologyO!!! I just remembered the when I tested Dapper it detected my wireless just fine - although it did have trouble setting it up... i would try to upgrade except that i can't upgrade w/o internet08:04
jmworxOK, I guess I'll change my question... how do I get my cdrom to work *at all*. It's a sata machine, so I'm guess that would be the problem...08:04
farousmajd: did you restart X after you did the installation08:04
MTecknologywhich has to be over wireless08:04
majdyeah08:05
jmworxthe gnome mount utils see there's a drive but there's no entry in /dev for it (using udev)08:05
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farousmajd check if you removed the fglrx-kernel package use synaptic and choose completely remove08:05
MTecknologywell,m08:05
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Will123when i use lspci it lists device names that my computer doesn't use :(08:06
majdfarous, should i remove fglrx-control too? just all the ones installed including xorg-driver-fglrx and what not?08:06
intelikeyjmworx /dev/.static/dev/08:06
MTecknologywell, off to test a link - hope it works and my next chat is using ubuntu08:06
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farousno just the kernel-fglrx one08:06
majdor just the kernel and the kernel source?08:06
majdok08:06
farousmajd you should have removed everything you installed from the dowloaded ati package08:07
farousi think you did not clean everything up properly08:07
SurfnKidhow can i know if my smtp server is setup? i checked Synaptic and postfix is up, but i cant send mail to 127.0.0.108:07
rnicolashow can i get ubuntu enterprise?08:07
majdi'm confused...i think i'm just gonna do a fresh install08:07
farousno need majd08:08
majdhaven't done anythign since my last one08:08
jmworxintelikey: I see an scd0 entry in /dev/.static/dev/, but opening it gives me "No such device or address"08:08
burepe2majd what s the prob08:08
burepe2?08:08
SurfnKidmajd what ATI card is it08:08
majdradeon 920008:08
rnicolashow can i get ubuntu enterprise edition?08:08
farousmajd you can uninustall all the fglrx drivers. and reinstall from the repos and reboot08:08
SurfnKidI got a 960008:08
intelikeyjmworx it's an scsi cdrom ?08:08
jmworxYet the gnome diskmounter sees I've got a drive08:08
SurfnKidbut i dont have it fully setup yet08:08
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jmworxintelikey: sata, but I guess it shows up as scd008:08
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jmworxintelikey: my hd definitely shows up as /dev/sda and it's a sata drive (Dell D810 laptop)08:09
majdfarous, in the tutorial page, it seems that i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-kernel-source and fglrx-control08:09
burepe2can anyone tell me or point me to a faq that explains how to remotely log in to my comp from a windows comp?08:09
PPoweri know this is stupid but i am going to install dapper rc today with espresso. is there anything i need to know08:09
majdshould i uninstall those too from synaptic?08:09
farousmajd i had the new ati drivers installed then i prefered the open source ati one and i still have 3-d accel08:09
SurfnKidburepe2 try VNC08:09
SurfnKidoh log in sorry08:09
SurfnKidthat i dont know08:10
zcat[1] this computer has an SiS video card.. can I get any 3d from it at all?08:10
burepe2I mean I just want to use my comp from another comp08:10
burepe2what do I do with vnc?08:10
Will123which driver version do i need? Linux kernel 2.6.X? is that what comes with ubuntu?08:10
farousmajd if you want you can install all fglrx drivers. forget the howto for the 8.24 i think is in the repos you can then just reinstall them from the official ubuntu repos08:10
burepe2I am not sure how to set that stuff up08:11
majdok08:11
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farousmajd sorr i ment if you want you can un-install all fglrx drivers. forget the howto for the 8.24 i think is in the repos you can then just reinstall them from the official ubuntu repos08:11
intelikeyjmworx try this ---> for this in `ls -1 /dev/hd? 2>/dev/null && ls -1 /dev/scd? 2>/dev/null ` ;do eject $this 2>/dev/null && echo $this ;done08:11
humboltI still can't find no XEN kernel in ubuntu?!08:12
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humboltI thought XEN will be part of the game?08:12
SurfnKidburepe2 vnc is to manage your pc remotely, but you want to log in to control as if you were on it?08:12
intelikeyjmworx orrr add the /dev/.static08:12
majdfarous, ok now when i typ fgrlxinfo i get command not found, does that mean i uninstalled successfully?08:12
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burepe2surfnkid08:12
burepe2 oops08:12
intelikeyjmworx try this ---> for this in `ls -1 /dev/.static/dev/hd? 2>/dev/null && ls -1 /dev/.static/dev/scd? 2>/dev/null ` ;do eject $this 2>/dev/null && echo $this ;done08:12
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SurfnKidi guess VNC, but thru linux im sure it can do a lot more, ask the experts here :)08:12
burepe2what is the difference?08:12
farouscheck with synaptic. uninustall the linux-restricted-modules package too and reinstall it later08:13
majdis there a vnc client I can use on the internet anywhere?08:13
SurfnKidyes siree08:13
SurfnKidi know how to set it up in WXP, havent learned how to in Ubuntu08:13
majdfarous, when i "completely remove" linux-restricted modules it asks me to remove linux-38608:14
SurfnKidi have the client installed not the server08:14
majdi shouldn't do that right?08:14
jmworxintelikey: nothing found08:14
bimberimajd: one is installed by default, Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client (Protocol VNC)08:14
majdbimberi, yeah but it doesn't work08:14
Will123where can i learn to install a linux driver?08:14
intelikeyjmworx hmmmmm08:14
jmworxintelikey: I see this in my log: "ata2(0): WARNING: ATAPI is disabled, device ignored."08:14
jmworxsure doesn't look good.08:14
farousmajd: it is a meta package no harm to remove it and you can install it later for update purposes08:14
SurfnKidburepe2 yes use that08:14
SurfnKidthats the client08:15
majdok i thought i was uninstalling linux from ubuntu08:15
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burepe2what? the Terminal Server Client?08:15
burepe2but how do i use it?08:15
SurfnKidTSC,VNC08:15
farousmajd wait a min08:15
burepe2That is what I need help with08:15
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SurfnKidyou want to log in to another machien?08:15
majdburepe2, it's extremely easy08:15
SurfnKidor viceversa08:15
burepe2really?08:16
majdyou know the local ip of the computer with the vnc server?08:16
farousmajd yah it is a meta pcakge08:16
burepe2from a windows comp to my ubuntu08:16
SurfnKidah08:16
SurfnKidthat i dont know08:16
SurfnKidmajd take over :P08:16
bimberimajd: doesn't work?08:16
burepe2majd vnc server is my ubuntu comp?08:16
majdi'm no expert but here's how i did it08:16
majdburepe2, yeah08:16
burepe2one sec08:16
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majdgo to System>Preferences>Remote Desktop08:16
burepe2the internal or external?08:16
majdinternal08:17
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intelikeyhehhe   modprobe sata_....... errr something08:17
jmworxintelikey: I'll reboot and try another kernel just in case. brb08:17
majdenable it there08:17
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Coca-Cola_MechJoHello room!08:17
Coca-Cola_MechJoIs anyone in here this morning?08:17
PPoweryup08:17
majdburepe2, get it?08:18
SurfnKidmajd I got it08:18
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SurfnKidsheesh that was difficult08:18
burepe2ok got it08:18
Coca-Cola_MechJoOh good! I'm so new to Ubuntu I'm so sorry if this is REALLY n00bish, but can you tell me a good site to find reference n00b guide like installing programs and such?08:18
burepe2now what?08:18
majdok now on windows08:18
burepe2cool08:18
burepe2um hun08:18
burepe2download vnc?08:18
burepe2or something?08:19
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x3onCoca-Cola_MechJo www.ubuntuforums.org08:19
Coca-Cola_MechJoVLC media player? That's the same thing I'm trying to install!08:19
burepe2no08:19
PPowercoca...: some good sites are: www.ubuntuforums.org, www.tuxtalk.org08:19
majdgo download http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ultravnc/tabbed_vncviewer.exe?download08:19
DarkLegacyI'm looking for a casual IRC chatroom. What would be a good place to look for one?08:19
burepe2vlc08:19
bimberiCoca-Cola_MechJo: http://help.ubuntu.com/08:19
intelikey!info vnc08:19
PPowercoca: www.videolan.org08:19
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SurfnKid=D08:19
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burepe2coca-cola-mechjo you need special repos use this08:20
majdburepe2, SurfnKid that link takes you to a file "UltraVNC" which is a windows vnc viewer08:20
intelikey!info vnc-common08:20
ubotuvnc-common: (Virtual network computing server software), section x11, is optional. Version: 3.3.7-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 58 kB, Installed size: 184 kB08:20
burepe2!source-o-matic08:20
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:20
PPowerburpee2: there is a guide on the videolan site though im not sure if it is updated for 5.10 or 6.0608:20
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Coca-Cola_MechJoRepos?08:20
RobNyc_Cany X1000 ati series users here using xgl ?08:20
GeorgeAScottarg.. i can't get my soundcard to play anything but static08:20
SurfnKidmajd better than the realvnc website version?08:20
burepe2coca08:20
MTecknologyaight, so when is dapper being released?08:20
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burepe2hold on08:20
zcat[1] !dapper08:20
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then08:20
MTecknologyfor dload08:20
burepe2I am in the middle of something08:20
burepe2I will explain in a second08:21
PPowerubotu: cheers!08:21
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PPower08:21
majdwhen you download it run it an make a new connection, use the ip of your ubuntu box and you'r gold08:21
Coca-Cola_MechJoI'm sorry Burepe2. Screen is moving a bit fast for me.08:21
majdok08:21
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zcat[1] !botsnack08:21
ubotuthanks zcat[1]  :)08:21
majdSurfnKid, realvnc website version?08:21
burepe2Just wait a couple min08:21
SurfnKidyeah ultra? whats the difference08:21
Coca-Cola_MechJoThanks.08:21
Coca-Cola_MechJoI'll be here.08:21
DarkLegacyGet UltraVNC Single Click08:21
majdi don't know, ultravnc has tabs08:21
DarkLegacyBest noob VNC solution08:21
majdi think it's cool08:21
DarkLegacyBackwards connection from newbie to you08:22
majdyou can also get tightVNC which is extremely lightweight08:22
DarkLegacyMeaning, router-proof08:22
zcat[1] so can I download dapper in 6 hours (NZST) or do I have to wait until June 1 UTC?08:22
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SurfnKidah ok08:22
SurfnKidnice ill check those out08:22
jmworxintelikey: looks like yet another kernel bug (was using 2.6.16)08:22
SurfnKidoh ok its just another viewer, I see08:23
intelikeyjmworx i'm not surprisedddd08:23
majdyeah08:23
majdi just need to find a vnc viewer i can use in-browser08:23
majdlike in school and in the library08:23
SurfnKidperfect for on the go for accessing customers' remote pcs08:23
SurfnKidum08:23
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SurfnKidregular vnc dude08:23
SurfnKidto get to your ubuntu or XP box08:24
intelikeyjmworx wait.  you built that kernel.. you disabled ata   the bug is jmworx08:24
zcat[1] there's a java client in one of the vnc servers.. but I'd suggest just running the plain old vnc program.08:24
SurfnKidi use the browser to get to my XP box08:24
SurfnKidzcat yes08:24
intelikeybut i wont tell anyone jmworx08:24
jmworxintelikey: what do you mean I disabled ata?08:24
majdzcat[1] , but if i'm in school i can't install/download anything on the computers08:25
zcat[1] how about a live CD?08:25
SurfnKidzcat our library doesnt let us access any programs, the java helps a lot08:25
intelikeythe message said it's disabled so ignoring the device....08:25
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SurfnKidi know the feeling majd08:25
SurfnKidhehe08:25
majdyeah it's gay08:25
SurfnKidvewy vewy08:25
jmworxintelikey: question is who disabled it. Can't remember disabling any of that...08:25
ompaul!~gay08:25
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul08:25
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ompaul!gay08:25
ompaul!+gay08:25
ubotuI heard gay is the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess  Some highly ignorant folks think it's an insult of some sort.  Who can tell why?08:25
SurfnKidoh come on ubotu you do know08:25
Kholerabbianyone know a good backgammon game?08:25
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intelikeyjmworx i.e.   the kernel compiler did it.08:26
majdummmmm08:26
majdok08:26
achandrahello. I was in here a couple of days agao..and someone mentioned an official release for Dapper...anyone know when?08:26
zcat[1] English is a living language.. to my kids, gay means sad and pathetic.. they don't even associate it with homosexual any more...08:26
SurfnKidmajd I have no clue if vnc java support is enabled on ubuntu, i guess i could try08:26
Kholerabbi1 June dapper08:27
SurfnKiddont think so08:27
majdzcat[1] , it's not the norm, so i use it to associate to anything that's not the norm08:27
SurfnKidonly on my XP box08:27
majdor out of place or not as expected08:27
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Coca-Cola_MechJoQuick q from the noob, what's VNC please?08:27
jmworxintelikey: any idea what that option is? strange that my hd worked at all, since it would be using ata as well, no?08:27
SurfnKidzcat how did you accomplish that, thast what i want my kids to learn08:27
majdsame with "that's weird" "that's retarted" "that's stupid"08:27
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intelikeyjmworx no idea.08:28
burepe2what is the location of sources.list?08:28
bimberiburepe2: /etc/apt08:28
majdanyway i got three finals tomorrow...last day of high school :) good night guys08:28
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`moses`/etc/apt/sources.list08:28
burepe2thanks08:28
lnostdalCoca-Cola_MechJo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VNC .. basically; control a computer from a remote place08:28
intelikeyjmworx maybe the hd is using the bios access.....08:28
Coca-Cola_MechJoThanks Inostdal.08:28
zcat[1] no idea.. it's just how the word gets used at school.08:28
TiG4--- Is it possible for me to record audio that is coming through my speakers in linux... aka my LineOut ---08:28
SurfnKidah08:28
rixxonachandra: 6.06 means it will be released 2006-06-0108:29
SurfnKidglad08:29
SurfnKidsome kids might take it the wrong way08:29
Coca-Cola_MechJoYeah take a two sided cord and run it right back to your line in Tig...08:29
burepe2Coca-Cola_MechJo: check it out. You have Adept which is a package manager. If you give it the right repositories you can get basically any program that you will ever need right from Adept. In order to add those repos (repositories) you need to go here http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic follow the directions and then save the output to /etc/apt/sources.list    You can do that with the command sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list  Then you can 08:29
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achandrarixxon: at least they wont release it like the movie on 6-6-06 lol :)08:29
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rixxonachandra: what?08:29
Coca-Cola_MechJoDo you have the time for me to PM you Burepe2?08:30
zcat[1] Yeah, I think another five days delay would have been totally appropriate myself...08:30
achandrarixxon: the omen...the movie is released on that day... :)08:30
burepe2yeah08:30
rixxonachandra: lol08:30
zcat[1] and release it at exactly 06:06:06 in the morning too..08:30
rixxonisn't omen from the 70s08:30
rixxonor is this some recreation08:30
semikalanyone got step by step procedure in installing ubuntu here? am newbie at linux08:31
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achandraright...wouldnt want the distro to be a nightmare...08:31
achandralol08:31
burepe2madj: sorry to keep you hanging. What do I do with the vnc viewer once I download it.08:31
DarkLegacySemikal08:31
DarkLegacyStep 1. Get CD08:31
rixxonor well they call those 'remakes'08:31
DarkLegacyStep 2. Install08:31
burepe2I need host and local host info right?08:31
intelikeyompaul perhaps it's the third definition....08:31
semikallol08:31
rixxonsemikal: you don't need that, the installation is six simple steps08:31
achandraanother quick $ for hollywood..08:31
kameronis anyone around decent with sound cards, and tv tuner cards?08:31
burepe2I got some tv tuner experience08:32
SurfnKidsemika1 the hardest part was partitioning my drive, that was it08:32
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achandrakameron: ive used hauppage stuff...if your going to do the MythTv thing..08:32
rixxonachandra: anyways, they release a new ubuntu version every six month and the version number is based on the release date - so the last version, 5.10, was released 2005-10-0108:32
semikalok tnx08:32
SurfnKidsemika1 Burn the Ubuntu ISO DVD if you can or burn the ISO CD and boot to it, follow the steps to install or just to boot, its very straight forward IMO08:32
achandrarixxon: ahhh....interesting....cool08:32
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rixxonuhm, wasn't it eight months since 2005-10? *confused*08:33
semikalok tnx08:33
SurfnKidyw08:33
semikali thought it wasnt gui like XP08:33
SurfnKidand come back if you get trouble, i know a thing or two :D08:33
SurfnKidhappy and jumpy about it too =D08:33
Coca-Cola_MechJoI'm sorry about the disconnect, quick question, How do I tell if I've got Breezey, Hoary, or Dapper?08:33
rixxoni guess they waited two months more for making dapper 'lts'08:34
SurfnKidsemika1 thought so too, it did surprise me when it was gui like08:34
semikalok ill be trying ubuntu..08:34
eggzeckCoca-Cola_MechJo, uname -o08:34
semikalok ill be trying ubuntu..08:34
semikalthanks bud08:34
Coca-Cola_MechJoWhat eggzeck?08:34
intelikeyCoca-Cola_MechJo defauld kernel version is one way.   lsb-release is anothen08:34
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SurfnKidsemika1 i knew maybe 5 commands barely on linux, barely, but these guys in the chat have been an easy breeze helping out, dont be afraid to ask, good luck08:35
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rixxonachandra: and it would seem it is not neccessarily released first day of the month, 5.10 was released the 13th, apparently08:35
DarkToweruname -o would only say GNu/Linux08:35
DarkToweruname -a?08:35
rixxonachandra: but 6.06 will be released tomorrow, the 1st08:35
achandrahmm08:35
achandraSweet!08:35
Coca-Cola_MechJoI'm sorry intelikey, assume I have no clue and you'll be right on the money?08:35
rixxonachandra: final, that is. rc is already out :)08:35
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achandrarixxon: cant wait.. Id love to get it on the laptop....heard they made some improvements to the broadcom native drivers...08:36
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rixxonachandra: heh, don't ask me. this is my third day with ubuntu :>08:36
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intelikeyDarkTower eggzeck and Coca-Cola_MechJo  type lsb_release08:36
achandrarixxon: cool!08:36
Coca-Cola_MechJoType it where?08:36
intelikeyterminal08:37
Coca-Cola_MechJoI don't even know how to get to the terminal.08:37
achandrarixxon: long time suse user... and making a switch.08:37
Coca-Cola_MechJoI JUST installed.08:37
rixxonachandra: and i think im in love with an os :s08:37
burepe2SurfnKid: Hey I am trying to use that vlc thing to access my comp but I'm not sure what the address is? I know the internal ip but don't I need the external too??08:37
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achandrarixxon: cool to here..08:37
achandrahear08:37
achandralol08:37
intelikeyCoca-Cola_MechJo ok  just type this in your chat window.   /exec -o lsb_release08:37
SurfnKidPM burepe208:37
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rixxonheh08:37
Coca-Cola_MechJoLSB Version:n/a08:37
bimberiNo LSB modules are available.08:37
bimberiNo LSB modules are available.08:37
bimberiDistributor ID:Ubuntu08:38
bimberiDescription:Ubuntu (The Dapper Drake Release) Development Branch08:38
bimberiRelease:6.0608:38
bimberiCodename:dapper08:38
SurfnKiddiapper08:38
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Coca-Cola_MechJoLSB Version:n/a08:38
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Coca-Cola_MechJo"LSB Version: n/a"08:38
firstpuaanyone know what source has w32codecs ?08:38
SurfnKidhave you registered your nick burepe208:38
intelikeyCoca-Cola_MechJo hmmm no version info ....   is that ubuntu you are running ?08:38
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firstpualike what in my source.list i have to add to get w32codecs08:39
burepe2no08:39
thoreauputic!w32dodecs08:39
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ubotuthoreauputic: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:39
SurfnKid!nick08:39
burepe2it is a back up nic08:39
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid08:39
Coca-Cola_MechJointelikey: Yes it is, installed it this morning, burned the ISO last night.08:39
thoreauputic!codecs08:39
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories08:39
lwarimavi all08:39
SurfnKidwell anyway..  ill explain08:39
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firstpua!easysource08:39
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ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:39
rixxonhave ubuntu been around since only 2004-10-20 ?08:39
burepe2sorry08:39
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SurfnKidyou got an ubuntu and xp box there with you08:39
intelikeyok plan b Coca-Cola_MechJo try /exec -o uname -r08:39
Coca-Cola_MechJo2.6.12-9-38608:40
burepe2yeah08:40
intelikeybreezy08:40
Coca-Cola_MechJointelikey: 2.6.12-9-38608:40
intelikeybreezy08:40
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baboI have an nmap problem ...08:41
SurfnKidok08:41
baboroot@ubuntu64:~# nmap -o -sS x.x.x.x08:41
baboFailed to determine the netmask of ! : No such device08:41
SurfnKidhave you tried accessing ubuntu from the xp box08:41
burepe2I need the address08:41
SurfnKidare you on ubuntu now?08:41
burepe2I don't know what it consist of08:41
burepe2this is xp08:41
SurfnKidah08:41
babowhy do I need the netmask ? ... ubuntu is the only distro that nmap seems to require this of ...08:42
Coca-Cola_MechJointelikey: Does that number help?08:42
burepe2but i am next to both08:42
intelikeyCoca-Cola_MechJo> 2.6.12-9-386   <intelikey> breezy  <Coca-Cola_MechJo> intelikey: 2.6.12-9-386   <intelikey> breezy08:42
burepe2If i am in a network do I just use the internal ip address08:42
burepe2?08:42
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SurfnKidok lets do this first, we're going to access one machine for now and just so you can see how it works we'll do the viceversa, bare with me08:42
burepe2What if I am in a differnent place08:42
SurfnKidhave you enabled VNC server on your XP08:42
burepe2ok08:42
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hugomagicAt the moment of oing the partitions to install ubunto how much do I have to give to each OS (XP and ubuntu)?08:43
SurfnKidyes if oyu are in an internal network you use the internal IP correct08:43
burepe2enabled? I downloaded the viewr that mehl or what's his name told us about08:43
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burepe2the server is the ubuntu box08:43
Coca-Cola_MechJointelikey: So it's breezy? Thanks alot for your help I appreciate it, can you give me a reference URL to where to learn these commands you're showing me?08:43
alex_hello08:43
SurfnKidahh ok08:43
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burepe2sorry not clear08:43
SurfnKidcan you get to a terminal? type ifconfig eth0 and that'll give you the current ip address08:43
burepe2got it08:44
SurfnKidwhats it say08:44
intelikeyCoca-Cola_MechJo see the links that <ubotu>  is about to give.08:44
burepe2192.168.0.308:44
intelikey!cli08:44
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org08:44
SurfnKidthats it08:44
SurfnKidgo to your XP box and with that IP you should breeze right in08:44
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Coca-Cola_MechJointelikey: Thanks bunches. First day using this OS. Hope I don't have to come back here and bug ya'll TOO much in my learning curve!08:45
burepe2If I am on the same network right? but what if I am in another town and I want to check on my comp don't I need external address too?08:45
intelikeyCoca-Cola_MechJo any time'08:45
SurfnKidah Lesson No. 208:45
burepe2Coca-Cola_MechJo: dude get thoes repos set up and you will be fine08:45
SurfnKidyeah, can you get to your router? get inthere and figure out the global ip address08:45
rixxonbabo: try * rather than x08:45
SurfnKidor...  use this to find out  http://checkip.dyndns.org   thats your external net IP08:46
Coca-Cola_MechJoburepe2: Thanks a bunches to you too! The Repos site asked for version is why I came back asking.08:46
intelikeySurfnKid ifconfig08:46
SurfnKidintelikey for external?08:47
burepe2ok www.showmyip.com08:47
burepe2got it08:47
rixxonbabo: and -o requires parameters...08:47
SurfnKidyou have to enable port forwarding on your router? 5800 i think and 5900 > to 192.168.0.3 make sure it points to that08:47
burepe2220.47.238.184:192.168.0.308:48
intelikeySurfnKid for me it woeks.... no router tho.08:48
SurfnKidthats it08:48
SurfnKidintelikey ah right, yes thought so08:48
SurfnKidplugged in straight08:48
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a_kweisomeone told me that i can get my webmail account using pop and using my own smtp to send it, how exactly can i do that?08:49
intelikeycommands i know some, but network illiterate08:49
SurfnKid< network engineer08:49
Coca-Cola_MechJoBurepe2: Alright, I've selected all I wanted, sorry, but how do I set them up?08:49
SurfnKidlinux illiterate =D08:49
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SurfnKidbut im getting less sticky and a bit sharper08:49
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baborixxon: err ... the x.x.x.x denoted an ip address which I didn't want to publish on irc ... using * won't help but thanks anyway ...08:50
intelikeyCoca-Cola_MechJo edit the sources.list ?08:50
noiesmodcosta, have a look at fetchmail pretty sure it can retrive webmail08:50
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burepe2Coca-Cola_MechJo: did it give you an output?08:50
burepe2did it make a list?08:50
SurfnKidburepe2 once Port Forwarding is set, you should be all set08:50
burepe2SurfnKid: yeah08:50
Coca-Cola_MechJoNo it didnt?08:50
burepe2thanks08:50
Coca-Cola_MechJoJust a couple check boxes.08:50
burepe2gotta make static ip first08:51
dcostanoiesmo: and to send it? it takes a long time for me to use gmail's smtp08:51
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Will123YES. I beat the computer at four-in-a-row!08:51
GeorgeAScottoh please help me get sound from this audigy se..... please08:51
SurfnKidyw08:51
burepe2SurfnKid: is there a web based vnc viewer?08:51
MiracleWhat is the difference between Debian and Kubuntu or Gubuntu or Ubuntu?08:51
SurfnKidfor ubuntu Im not sure08:51
noiesmodcosta, here's address for fetchmail http://fetchmail.berlios.de and I justed used my isp for sending08:52
SurfnKidfor XP there's a Java Web Client08:52
Coca-Cola_MechJoBurepe2: I hit give me a source list but what do I do with the text08:52
burepe2Coca-Cola_MechJo: don08:52
GeorgeAScotti've been googling and i'm about to go crosseyed.08:52
Coca-Cola_MechJoburepe2: don?08:52
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rixxonbabo: ah, how about -o ?08:52
burepe2Coca-Cola_MechJo: now copy that and put that command i told you in a terminal08:52
intelikeyCoca-Cola_MechJo to edit you sources.list file   press [alt] +[f2]   and type in   gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list     <--- one way.08:52
dcostanoiesmo: i don't know what isp my campus uses, that's why i am trying to set up my lab's own smtp08:53
SurfnKidburepe2 I am positive there is being that XP runs it, so Im sure its also on ubuntu I just havent gotten around getting that set up08:53
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baborixxon: nope, no luck there either. It's strange that none of the RH distros have any problem running nmap ...08:53
burepe2sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list08:53
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Coca-Cola_MechJoburepe2, intelikey: Go back to step one, I'm TERRIBLY sorry about this but you've completely confused me.08:53
SurfnKidburepe2 help that guy out I'll stick around here08:53
burepe2intelikey: lets not confuse him08:53
burepe2let me explain08:54
noiesmodcosta, not sure here's a link for sendmail http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-hn/sendmail.htm might help08:54
intelikeyCoca-Cola_MechJo or what burepe2 said.  it's the same process.08:54
vinboyshould I enable Logical volume manager (LVM) support in kernel?08:54
Coca-Cola_MechJoThis is my first day using ubuntu sorry.08:54
burepe22 different people saying the same thing08:54
dcostathanks a lot08:54
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burepe2Coca-Cola_MechJo: copy the list the website gave you08:54
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Healotvinboy: yes if you have logical volumes to manage08:54
burepe2Coca-Cola_MechJo: then open a terminal08:54
burepe2got it?08:54
Coca-Cola_MechJoThese packages are supported with security updates by the Ubuntu developers. Without this section, upgrading/installing packages becomes virtually impossible.08:54
Coca-Cola_MechJoSupported versions:08:54
Coca-Cola_MechJo    * hoary08:54
Coca-Cola_MechJo    * breezy08:54
Coca-Cola_MechJo    * dapper08:54
Coca-Cola_MechJoSupported architectures:08:54
Coca-Cola_MechJo    * i38608:55
Coca-Cola_MechJo    * ppc08:55
Coca-Cola_MechJo    * amd6408:55
Healothoi08:55
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Coca-Cola_MechJoGPG Key: 437D05B508:55
Coca-Cola_MechJoKey owner: Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>08:55
Coca-Cola_MechJoThat?08:55
Coca-Cola_MechJoNo commands I can't find./08:55
Coca-Cola_MechJoJust lists of supported systems and versions.08:55
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burepe2Coca-Cola_MechJo: what do you have Breezy or Dapper?08:55
Coca-Cola_MechJoBreezy08:55
ompaulCoca-Cola_MechJo, (A) please do not paste (B) please shorten your nick it works badly with some clients (C) use paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:55
intelikeyburepe2  you'll also have to help him open a terminal...  that's why i said  alt+f2    <shrugs/>08:56
ompaulintelikey, just back - third definition?08:56
burepe2he doesn't have the list08:56
burepe2i don't think08:56
intelikeyompaul on the bot's reply... not important.08:56
ompaulahh okay08:56
Coca-Cola_MechJoBRB Have to exit client to chose new /nick. Sorry08:57
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intelikeyor do /nick blah08:57
SurfnKid!blah08:57
ubotuSurfnKid: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:57
intelikeyblah blah blah, blah.08:58
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grantbBack, this is Coca-Cola_MechJock, sorry didn't realize some would have probs with that name.08:58
SurfnKidI just noticed, thats what keep doing08:58
SurfnKidwhat we keep doingn08:58
burepe2grantb: wait one sec ok?08:58
SurfnKiddang keyboard08:59
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grantbburepe2: Alright.08:59
MyNameIsNotBobdoes anyone have any idea how to get sudo working properly on my user?08:59
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burepe2grantb: what country are you in?08:59
intelikeybob add you user to the adm group08:59
SurfnKidoh crap08:59
SurfnKidguys08:59
grantbburepe2: United States.08:59
MyNameIsNotBobintelikey, how?08:59
SurfnKidi have a process that just hung, and my processor is at 99% how can i kill it09:00
wenkops    and kill09:00
MyNameIsNotBobSurfnKid, load a terminal and run top09:00
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intelikeyboot to rescue,  and do a usermod -G adm <name>09:00
intelikeyvov ^09:00
Healotpower off, plug the plug or kill the process using the most CPU time09:00
intelikeybob09:00
wenkodont forget the sudo09:00
SurfnKidah ok09:01
intelikeywenko who ?09:01
wenkoyou...09:01
SurfnKidta hell is whiptail09:01
wenkoyou may need to run sudo09:01
wenkoerrrrr09:01
intelikeywenko as root.... no.09:01
wenkoright....i didnt think hed be in as root09:02
MyNameIsNotBobintelikey, do i have to reboot to rescue or can i just log into a terminal as root?09:02
intelikeybob have to reboot to single user mode.09:02
burepe2grantb: go to this page and copy what I posted09:02
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intelikeyif sudo is hosed  you have to be root to fix it.09:02
SurfnKidHeatlot whats whiptail, its at 93%09:03
burepe2http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1489509:03
burepe2grantb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1489509:03
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intelikeyMyNameIsNotBob do you have a root passwd ?09:03
SurfnKid!whiptail09:03
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid09:03
MyNameIsNotBobintelikey, yes09:03
intelikeythen become root.09:03
alex_Is there a different way of mounting a vfat partition, other than through mount? (a graphical way oppose to going through the console)09:03
grantbburepe2: Alright I copied it.09:04
MyNameIsNotBobi did your command as root and it still doesn't work09:04
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intelikeyMyNameIsNotBob log out and back in to activate the change09:04
MyNameIsNotBobok09:04
burepe2grantb: then do alt+f209:05
burepe2WAIT09:05
burepe2don't do that09:05
grantbburepe2: Alright, got a "Run Application"09:05
SurfnKidMyNameIsNotBob,  um after I run top whast the command to kill the process09:05
burepe2no09:05
burepe2not that09:05
grantbburpe2: Alright sorry09:05
burepe2do this instead09:05
intelikeySurfnKid man top09:05
MyNameIsNotBobSurfnKid, press k09:05
MyNameIsNotBoband enter the pid09:06
burepe2go Aplications >System tools >terminal09:06
burepe2When you get that up let me know09:06
SurfnKidgrr i cant kill whiptail09:06
ompaul@now christchurch09:07
SurfnKidoperation not permitted09:07
intelikeyburepe2 what was wrong with gksudo gedit sources  ?09:07
ompaul@now wellington09:07
ompaul@now nz09:07
grantbburepe2: No "Terminal" under "Applications>System Tools09:07
UbugtuCurrent time in NZ: May 31 2006, 19:07:3009:07
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burepe2if he presses alt -f2 he can't see what we are saying09:07
burepe2and he might not know how to get out09:07
bimberiompaul: 5 hours :)09:08
petrikWhat other options are there for file/print sharing? Having no luck with NFS or Samba.09:08
ompaulmy thoughts exactle09:08
burepe2I got freaked when i realized that and was like wait09:08
intelikeyburepe2 huh ?09:08
`moses`@now tx09:08
ompaulbimberi,  my thoughts exactly09:08
burepe2this way is better09:08
`moses`@now texas09:08
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burepe2if you do alt - f2 there is no gui09:08
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intelikeyzyiro  ping from afar09:08
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grantbBurepe2: No "Terminal" under Applications>System Tools.09:09
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burepe2how am i gonna finish the directions if he has no gui?09:09
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`moses`@now chicago09:09
burepe2are you useing ubuntu?09:09
UbugtuCurrent time in America/Chicago: May 31 2006, 02:09:2609:09
grantbBurepe2: Yes.09:09
MyNameIsNotBobis it a graphical program SurfnKid ?09:09
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SurfnKidMyNameIsNotBob, forgot to do sudo on it, I got it,  yeah i ran apt-get install postfix and i accidentally closed the terminal09:10
SurfnKidbut it froze up09:10
SurfnKidand just heard my fans speed up09:10
burepe2grantb: what does it say under system tools09:10
burepe2?09:10
SurfnKidThank you I learned another command now09:10
MyNameIsNotBobSurfnKid, cause the other option is xkill09:10
SurfnKidoh09:11
MyNameIsNotBobpress ALT+F209:11
intelikeyburepe2 doesn't  alt+f2 give you an inpur box where you type in the command and it runs it......  gksudo will open an xdialog window for the password  and gedit will then run as root.....09:11
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MyNameIsNotBoband run xkill09:11
intelikeyinput09:11
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SurfnKidi just did that lol09:11
SurfnKidprefer top its more geeky like09:12
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burepe2sorry my bad09:12
intelikeyand i don't even use gnome.09:12
burepe2You are right09:12
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burepe2i don't either09:12
NewDapI have a support question09:12
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intelikeybut lets not confuse him.09:12
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grantbBurepe2: Ubuntu Device Database, System Monitor, System Log, Run as Different User, New Login, Network Tools, Floppy Formatter, Configeration editor, bug report tool, and applications menu editor, from bottom to top.09:12
burepe2grantb: press alt f209:12
burepe2alt and f209:13
NewDapfor some reason I get "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/celestia/celestia-common_1.3.2-3.1ubuntu3_all.deb"09:13
NewDapeven though that is a supported file in a supported repository09:13
NewDapwhat gives?09:13
grantbburepe2 Alright I've got "Run Application"09:13
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grantbburepe2: I just borrowed my roomies laptop with windows, I need server info and i'll log in this IRC on that, so you can keep talking to me.09:14
burepe2intelikey: that was the point. if you want to do it, by all means...09:14
MyNameIsNotBobintelikey, still don't have sudo privileges09:14
ompaulus.archive is notorious for being unreliable - remove the us. - or change it to ie.archive (who move several times more data than kernel.org every day :-)09:14
rob138for some reason i lost control over a lot of random wierd things, for one thing if i click and icon and press delete, it won't delete, also if i click a window, i don't get focus, unless i click the title bar, and my control,options,super, and alt key don't work for a lot of things?09:14
ompaulNewDap, ^^^ look up a few lines09:14
intelikeyMyNameIsNotBob groups   show adm for that user ?09:14
SurfnKidMyNameIsNotBob, xkill is much easier you're right, Thanks! didn't want to reboot09:15
MyNameIsNotBobshows sudo09:15
noiesmoNewDap, interesting the file is there I just followed link and can download maybe download manually put it in /var/cache/apt/archives/ and then run apt-get command09:15
intelikeyMyNameIsNotBob no it has to be adm09:15
user_hey guys... when i try to run sudo bash i get a timestamp error... can anyone tell me how to fix this?  sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jun  1 02:21:08 200609:16
intelikeyMyNameIsNotBob visudo   look at the way it works and you will see what is happening.     man sudoers    also helps09:16
NewDapthanks09:16
NewDapI will give it a shot09:16
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rob138anyone have an idea ^09:16
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SurfnKidwhats bash do?09:17
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NewDaphmmm09:17
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SurfnKiddebugger?09:18
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NewDapwhere can I get a source list that uses .ie as opposed to .us09:18
MrGallihurWhat is Ubuntu?09:18
bimberi!ubuntu09:18
ubotuI heard ubuntu is a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth09:18
Healot!bounty09:18
ubotuHealot: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:18
burepe2grantb: now in there type sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list09:18
MrGallihurAh09:18
user_SurfnKid, bash is a linux shell09:18
grantxpburepe2: Alright, I'm on laptop and I've hit alt+f2 on the desktop, so I can talk to you now and do whatever it was you were about to show me.09:18
SurfnKidI see09:18
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burepe2look up09:19
Agent_bob!bash09:19
ubotuFor a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands09:19
rob138hi, if i click a window, i don't get focus, unless i click the title bar... how do i fix this?09:19
Agent_bobbash - GNU Bourne-Again SHell09:19
SurfnKidah09:20
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grantxpburepe2: Do I want to "Run in terminal" or just "run"?09:20
SurfnKidcoool deal09:20
burepe2grantxp: did you get the command?09:20
burepe2run in terminal09:20
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MyNameIsNotBobintelikey, still doesn't work09:20
Agent_bobin adm group now ?09:20
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burepe2then delete everything in that file and paste in what I sent you in that page09:20
MyNameIsNotBobyes09:20
Agent_bobMyNameIsNotBob sudoers say     adm    ALL=(ALL) ALL     ?09:21
burepe2grantxp: then press control+x to save09:21
grantxpburepe2: Delete doesn't work?09:21
NewDapwhat I am looking for is an ideal source list for Dapper09:21
MyNameIsNotBobsorry Agent_bob, explain?09:21
Agent_bobas root cat /etc/sudoers09:22
grantxpburepe2: Sorry, nvm, blond moment....09:22
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MyNameIsNotBobno it doesn't09:22
burepe2grantxp: backspace?09:22
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errordeveloperi have installed ubuntu from scratch , and evrything is set up fine already, but it doesnt wanna bring eth0 up on boot .. what could be wrong ?09:23
Agent_bobMyNameIsNotBob anything remotely close ?09:23
errordeveloper??09:23
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MyNameIsNotBobit says root instead of adm09:23
SurfnKidtime to watch CBSnews09:23
Agent_bobMyNameIsNotBob visudo09:23
Agent_bobchange it.09:24
burepe2SurfnKid: thanks for yr help earlieer09:24
rob138(sorry for reposting, i got disconnected) but if i click a window, i don't get focus, unless i click the title bar... how do i fix this?09:24
burepe2grantxp: are you following?09:24
grantxpBurepe2: Yes, alot text, I'm deleting it now.09:24
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SurfnKidyw mate, if ya need me to test it thru here, I can do it now :)09:24
noiesmoerrordeveloper, check /etc/network/interfaces add the following line09:25
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noiesmoerrordeveloper, iface eth0 inet dhcp09:25
noiesmoerrordeveloper, auto eth009:25
noiesmoerrordeveloper, or man interfaces for more info09:25
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MyNameIsNotBobhow do i save09:25
grantxpBurepe2: And what saved it?09:26
burepe2ctrl+x09:26
burepe2and then y09:26
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grantxpburepe2: Alright! That's done.09:26
=== Agent_bob has always wondered why root would need to run sudo.....
burepe2then open adept09:26
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Agent_bobMyNameIsNotBob  how do i save ????  depends on the editor....09:27
burepe2aplications>system tools>adept09:27
grantxpburepe2: Wow, right quick? Was I supposed to get text from each of those sites in your paste or paste exactly what you did?09:27
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burepe2just what i sent you09:28
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MyNameIsNotBobAgent_bob, in visudo, how do i save the file?09:28
chxhow could I disable logging of firestarter?09:28
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Healot:qw09:28
alex_my sound doesn't work. I just installed ubuntu, any ideas?09:28
Agent_bobctrl o    for nano   f2 for mc/cool edit   [esc]  :w  for vi09:28
alex_via motherboard built-in sound09:28
grantxpburepe2: Sorry no adept in Applications>System Tools either.09:28
Agent_bobMyNameIsNotBob it's probably nano.09:29
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knanandhi all09:29
burepe2alex_:  System>prefrences>sound and change the default sound card09:29
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SurfnKidhi knanand09:29
Agent_bobMyNameIsNotBob visudo can be set to use many different editors for the work.    try   [ctrl]  O09:29
MyNameIsNotBobAgent_bob, i worked it out in vi09:30
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burepe2grantxp: do you still have that terminal open?09:30
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grantxpburepe2: No, do I need to open it again?09:30
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Agent_bobMyNameIsNotBob vi   ok [esc]  :wq09:30
knanandhi all09:30
MyNameIsNotBobAgent_bob, well wq! for read-only file09:30
burepe2grantxp: do alt + f209:30
Agent_bobMyNameIsNotBob k09:31
burepe2grantxp: then type in sudo adept09:31
alex_burepe2: "preferences" doesn't exist in "System"09:31
MyNameIsNotBobi'll logout and back in to see, brb09:31
Agent_bobgksudo09:31
knanandi recently re-installed my windows XP now i cannot boot to ubuntu.. :( how can boot to linux again...09:31
Agent_bobburepe2 gksudo09:31
grantxpburepe2: in terminal or just run?09:31
ompaul!grub09:31
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting09:31
burepe2which ever09:31
Agent_bob!gksudo09:31
ubotuUse gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.09:31
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ompaulknanand, ^^ that line up there by ubotu09:31
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burepe2alex_ my menus seem to be differnt09:32
burepe2grantxp:09:32
burepe2wait09:32
grantxpburepe2: nothing happened.09:32
alex_burepe2: thanks anyhow09:32
burepe2do gksudo adept instead09:32
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burepe2thanks Agent_bob09:33
MyNameIsNotBobAgent_bob, still doesn't work09:33
grantxpburepe2: It asked me for my password, and then nothing happened?09:33
ThePubAt the risk of sounding naive ;)  since ubuntu is based on Debian, I'm assuming it still uses the apt system them for packages?09:33
burepe2grantxp: type in gksudo adept09:33
MyNameIsNotBobThePub, correct09:34
SurfnKidwhat would happen if this channel didnt exist? what would everyone feel :P09:34
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grantxpburepe2: "Failed to run adept as user root: Child terminated with 1 status" Only option is "close"09:34
ThePubMyNameIsNotBob, lol - thanks.  haven't actually had a linux box in awhile, and someone told me Ubuntu was a decently good distribution.  And I've always used Debian in the past. :)09:35
Agent_bobburepe2 also adept is standard for kde  synaptic is standard for gnome.... just in case.09:35
burepe2ok09:35
burepe2thatnks09:35
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SurfnKidAgent_bob, adept=synaptic in kde terms?09:35
burepe2grantxp: do sudo synaptic09:35
grantxpkin alt+f2?09:36
Agent_bobSurfnKid more or less. yes09:36
Bungi have ubuntu and windows on seperate partitions. if i re-install windows to the one partition, is it going to messup grub?09:36
burepe2I thought adept was new for all ubuntu based systems09:36
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HealotBung: yes, Windows will overwrite MBR09:36
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Bungi see09:36
Healotunless you install GRUB on other partition...09:36
burepe2bung: I am pretty sure windows will take out grub09:36
SurfnKidAgent_bob, i see09:36
NewDapI really need help, I have been using the ubuntu source o matic09:37
Healotfor Windows+Linux duelboot, I suggest you figure that out with NTloader09:37
burepe2grantxp: areyou there?09:37
Agent_bobburepe2 i said "starnard"  not that you can't use it on other desktops.09:37
Bunggrub isnt installed on the partition windows is irrc09:37
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NewDapand i cannot build a package list that does NOT fail09:37
grantxpburepe2: Alright I've got a "Synaptic Package Manager" Broken into 3 frames.09:37
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Agent_bobjust that it may not be installed09:37
NewDapcan someone how has a working package list please send me a link to a copy of it?09:37
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Bungso if need be, can i install grub from the ubuntu cds?09:38
MyNameIsNotBobAgent_bob, any other ideas?09:38
NewDapgtg09:38
burepe2ok now you can get just about any program you want through synaptic. Maybe except for skype. You can get dvd codex or windows codecs or vlc or whatever09:38
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Agent_bobMyNameIsNotBob you can post your /etc/sudoers  file on pastebin09:38
Agent_bob!paste09:39
burepe2this is what makes ubuntu great because using these package managers work much better than other linux applications and it is easy09:39
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 09:39
burepe2grantxp: do you follow?09:39
grantxpBurepe2: Yes09:39
BungHealot: so if need be, can i install grub from the ubuntu cds?09:40
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burepe2help other people to do this in the future. Once you get past this point using ubuntu is usually pretty easy09:40
MyNameIsNotBobAgent_bob, done09:41
Healothum... yes... i guess, but my way is to make a grubdisk first, then reinstall grub09:41
Agent_bobbung yes you can09:41
Bungok good to know, thank you09:41
DarkTowerhalo 3 is gunna rock09:41
Agent_bobMyNameIsNotBob url please09:41
Bunghalo gives me a headache09:41
grantxpburepe2: Alright, I really appreciate all your time, All I can really bring myself to ask you for now is any URL you know that can point me at some help files for the other things I need to get doing?09:41
crazy_penguingood morning everybody! :)09:42
DarkTowerdont play so close to the tv lol09:42
crazy_penguina good dapper morning to all ! :)09:42
MyNameIsNotBobhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1489609:42
seliniumburepe2: you can get skype deb from Seveas' mirrors.   http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl09:42
Agent_bobk09:42
burepe2What do you want to do?09:42
Bunghehe true enuf09:42
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burepe2grantxp:09:42
grantxpburepe2: lol, figure out this OS.09:42
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DarkTowerAnyone know how you can stop skype needing to be restarted after each call?09:42
MyNameIsNotBobgrantxp, ubuntuguide.org is good09:42
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grantxpThanks.09:42
grantxpAdding it now.09:43
selinium!ubuntuguide09:43
ubotumethinks ubuntuguide is badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.09:43
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seliniumgrantxp: read above message from ubotu09:43
grantxpYou guys are great! Thanks everyone for all the help! >:D<09:43
burepe2grantxp: ubotu is a bot and tells you helpful things read what he said09:43
darkgamer20what the LTS stand for in the 6.06 download section?09:43
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grantxpburepe2: That'd be the first time I've ever listened to a bot's suggestion for a site, but I'll add them too lol.09:44
Agent_bobMyNameIsNotBob sorry.  the adm needs  % in front of it.   my bad09:44
jameygdarkgamer20, long term support09:44
darkgamer20ohh09:44
seliniumMyNameIsNotBob: ubuntuguide is an ok site but it can break stuff, it is not recommended to pass new users to it.09:44
Agent_bobMyNameIsNotBob %adm    ALL=(ALL) ALL09:44
darkgamer20jameyg: is that cause its being supported for like what 5 years or something?09:45
MyNameIsNotBobselinium, ok09:45
jameygdarkgamer20, it took me ages to figure it out too09:45
DarkTowerwill ubuntuguide be upgraded? Is it an official source of info?09:45
darkgamer20jameyg: lol thanks09:45
DarkTowerIve always gone there first thats all09:45
selinium!tell DarkTower about ubuntuguide09:45
SurfnKidmmm my mail isnt working right09:45
jameygdarkgamer20, yeah three years on desktop, five on server09:45
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SurfnKidhow can i check mail relay options in postfix09:46
Agent_bobMyNameIsNotBob not being a user of sudo i forget until i actually lay hands on it....09:46
DarkTowerI heard it the first time, thats why i asked my question09:46
thoreauputicDarkTower: way out of date09:46
thoreauputicDarkTower: unofficial, and I don't think it will be updated09:46
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Agent_boblike the man pages out of date or not that out of date ?09:46
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MyNameIsNotBobAgent_bob, i'd keep with using su, but ubuntu is built on the sudo concept09:46
DarkTowerthoreauputic: thankyou09:46
seliniumDarkTower: Sorry.... :)09:47
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DarkTowerselinium: thats cool, sorry i growled lol09:47
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Agent_bobMyNameIsNotBob hehhe yeah but i'm not built on that concept.09:47
seliniumDarkTower: np :)09:47
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jameygDarkTower, the best unofficial dapper guide I can find is http://krazypenguin.net/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide . But I still prefer the official wiki =)09:47
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thoreauputic!seen bob209:47
ubotui haven't seen 'bob2', thoreauputic09:47
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thoreauputichmm - neither has anyone else, for months09:48
Agent_bobMyNameIsNotBob did you get it working now ?09:48
DarkTowerjameyg: thanks for that, ill check it out. cant wait for dapper, will want a good guide on hand for first day setup09:48
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MyNameIsNotBobAgent_bob, seems to be09:48
seliniumthoreauputic: I haven't seen '!seen' before!09:48
thoreauputicselinium: heh09:48
MyNameIsNotBobAgent_bob, thanks for the help09:48
ompaulDarkTower, this is not zero day warzes you could get the flight from a few days ago and do an update and be ready before it is released :-)09:49
Agent_bobnp bob09:49
thoreauputicselinium: you remember bob2 though?09:49
traineewill the release for dapper be any diff on the beta release? <-newbie...09:49
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thoreauputictrainee: slightly, yes09:49
thoreauputictrainee: but updating will give you the same thing09:49
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seliniumthoreauputic: Indeed I do, not a figment of your imagination at all!09:49
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ompaulbob2  Last Seen: 23 weeks 2 days (7h 8m 13s) ago (bob2` seen 23 weeks 2 days (7h 8m 13s) ago)09:49
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`moses`ompaul how can i ensure that my RC candidate will get the proper upgrade ?  apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade ?09:49
thoreauputicselinium: :)09:49
traineei've installed the beta...and i like what i see..09:49
DarkTowerompaul: thanks. True but id rather wait for the full official release. You know having a new toy and all09:49
jainHi guys09:50
ompaul`moses`, yes09:50
`moses`thank you09:50
thoreauputicompaul: he must have got a life ;-)09:50
selinium`moses`: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade09:50
traineeiv'e been updating and hve been noticing changes in every update...09:50
jainI donot want to lock my computer everytime I close my lid, just want a blank screen09:50
ompaulthoreauputic, maybe09:50
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jainanyone knows how to do that09:50
`moses`do i have a life ?  absolutely not09:50
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Agent_bobtrainee me too09:50
grantbOk, sorry about that, I'm just going to sit in here awhile and hope the knowledge poors off into me lol.09:51
alex_so anyone know where i can get info on how to fix my sound problem?09:51
grantbAnd thanks again for all the help.09:51
`moses`why else would i be geeking out on geeky stuff all the time ?  (btw geeks make the best hubbys)09:51
thoreauputictrainee: changes will almost stop after release, except for security and bugfixes09:51
Agent_bobin fact one thing that changes each time the kernel updats is i cant boot.09:51
dcostai'm using theopencd. how can i connect to the net? i've got my static ip, netmask, and gateway info09:51
`moses`looks like your just missing your dns servers09:52
DarkTowerHow close is the RC to what will be released?09:52
seliniumalex_ what is your sound problem09:52
traineecan anyone one tell me which repository is safe to activate...09:52
dcostawhere should i put the dns address?09:52
traineeso far i've only activated the upper two...09:52
`moses`i dont know.  i use gnome.09:52
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Agent_bobtrainee the ones that say ubuntu in the name09:53
selinium!tell trainee abotu repos09:53
`moses`DarkTower there will be at least 100MB to download09:53
Agent_bob deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse09:53
Agent_bob deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse09:53
Agent_bobpick your poison09:54
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dcostawhere should i put the dns address so i can get online?09:54
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selinium!tell trainee abotu repos09:54
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Agent_bobthree lines one with ^ that one with security  and one with updates  in them09:55
Soirdcosta: edit it under networking?09:55
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ompaulselinium, he don't know that word09:55
petrikHow can I find out what my NFS server name is?09:55
seliniumompaul: ?09:55
seliniumsince when?09:55
ompaulselinium, abotu !=about09:55
grantbburepe2: BTW Is there a quick way that I don't eat up any more of your time, that I can set this up with a dual boot between two languages? Or would the easiest way be to get two HDDs and just have one Japanese and one English and just use different language OSs?09:55
dcostawhere in networking?09:55
seliniumompaul: Doh!09:56
`moses`dcosta you can usually find the servers in your router dialog09:56
selinium!tell trainee about repos09:56
seliniumWoo Hoo!09:56
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thoreauputicselinium: did you think ubotu suddenly became dyslexic ? *grin*09:56
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grantb!uboto09:56
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, grantb09:56
seliniumthoreauputic: I am hitting the keyboard with a pound of sausages!09:56
dcostai don't know anything about networking :(09:56
DarkTowerwhat exactlt is xgl? I just saw a cool vid. Is it just the 3d desktop changer. Hard to see in the vid09:56
dabaRu-bot-o09:57
Agent_bobompaul don't be so dad blamed picky.....  the bot might not notice the typo.....  :)09:57
grantb!ubotu09:57
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.09:57
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dcostai just know that this lab here uses a hub to connect to the server, which in 202.152.39.6009:57
thoreauputicselinium: if it's the same pound of sausages you were hiting it with some months ago, I recommend cleaning the keyboard ;P09:57
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ompaulAgent_bob, :-)09:57
blazecan somebody help me install the source for my video drivers?09:57
dabaRWhat time will dapper be released?09:57
seliniumthoreauputic: LOL09:57
duck[1] so today is the release date, right?09:57
ompaulduck[1] , 1st june some times09:58
SurfnKidok im goin to sleep, thanks for your help guys again Ive learned a few new commands, hopefully tomorrow i will remember them lol09:58
`moses`dabar, all we know is that real men dont sleep until their system is up to date.09:58
traineethanks selinium... :)09:58
duck[1] oh right, 31 days in may09:58
B1zzgood then i can to to bed then :-p09:58
Agent_bobSurfnKid nn09:58
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SurfnKidnite man09:58
seliniumtrainee No problems, if you get stuck, yell out again! :)09:58
dabaRDo I read men, or Ubutu-users whatever their gender?09:58
duck[1] gnite09:58
blazecan somebody help me install the source for my video drivers?09:58
`moses`sorry09:58
`moses`ubuntu users09:59
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DarkToweroo feminism rant coming lol09:59
`moses`i figured you were a guy :/09:59
Agent_bobblaze ati ?09:59
seliniumblaze: do you mean compile something from source?09:59
dabaRI am. Not everyone is.09:59
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`moses`yeah but i addressed it to you :)09:59
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traineeokay will do selinium...09:59
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blazeselinium, yes09:59
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selinium!tell blaze about compile10:00
blazefrom this page, selinium, http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=16310:00
Agent_bob!ati10:00
ubotuwell, ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI10:00
thoreauputicdabaR: 1st of June AFAIK10:00
blazei've read this already :)10:00
thoreauputicdabaR: whether that's UTC I don't know :)10:00
dabaRthoreauputic: OK. We are still here for another release:)10:00
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grantb!Japanese10:00
ubotugrantb: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:00
Agent_bob!b-e blaze10:01
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Agent_bob10:01
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Healot!jp10:01
ubotumethinks jp is Japan10:01
`moses`in UTC time how long is it until its the 1st of June ?10:01
Healotjap lap10:01
grantb!jp10:01
Hobbsee@time10:01
UbugtuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: May 31 2006, 08:01:2810:01
Hobbsee`moses`: ^10:01
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=== dabaR is excited, although he has been using dapper on and off for a while now.
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dabaRMore off than on:)10:02
ompaul@now tokyo10:02
UbugtuCurrent time in Asia/Tokyo: May 31 2006, 17:02:1810:02
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noiesmo@brisbane10:02
ompaulno10:02
noiesmo@now brisbane10:02
UbugtuCurrent time in Australia/Brisbane: May 31 2006, 18:02:3910:02
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thoreauputic@now Nadi10:02
ompauland stop playing with the bots in the channel go to #ubuntu-offtopic go get times10:02
dabaRoooh, cafuego is on the edge of his seat10:02
noiesmosorry ompaul10:02
ompaul:-)10:02
Agent_bobwell the guys working on kde still have a long ways to go before it's as good as it was 3 years ago.10:03
seliniumblaze: so download the file and fllow the steps, if you get into trouble shout out again   :)10:03
googlertomorow i'll upgrade from breezy to dapper and i need to know how much time should it take for 256kbps connection?10:03
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ompaulgoogler, get the CD it will be faster :)10:03
thoreauputicgoogler: depends how much you already have installed10:03
googlerapprox.?10:03
blazeselinium, there are no steps for ubuntu.. only for fedora10:03
thoreauputicgoogler: for instance mine was 900 MB10:03
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thoreauputicgoogler: but I have a lot installed ( extra desktops and stuff )10:04
seliniumblaze: which file are you trying to download from the page....10:04
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thoreauputicgoogler: the update will tell you how much before you accept it10:04
Agent_bobgoogler 256k  it wont take very long   i uped over dialup10:04
defryskgoogler, downloadtime wil be told when APT-GET DIST-UPGRADE ;)10:05
Squirrel511hello all10:05
externcan someone guide me through the process of adding a script to the booting (to set up the iptables and ip forwarding)10:05
defrysksorry caps10:05
thoreauputicAgent_bob: that's masochism ;P10:05
googleryes i see, so it may download about 1.5GB, right?10:05
blazeselinium, sec.10:05
thoreauputicgoogler: not likely10:05
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Agent_bobgoogler no  more like .510:05
Prof_Frinkgoogler: my upgrade was about 1GB10:05
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Squirrel511u-offtopic10:06
Squirrel511hello all10:06
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googlerok thanks to you all for response, have a nice time10:06
petrikWhen I try to mount a NFS drive I get can't find address. Any ideas what I'm missing?10:06
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Agent_bobshow the command10:07
SurfnKidwhere can i get the xorg-driver-fglrx?10:07
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Healotit's on the repos on the most Ubuntu mirrors10:08
Agent_bobrepos10:08
Agent_bobxorg-driver-fglrx - Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators10:08
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SurfnKidgotcha10:08
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SurfnKidthx10:08
Agent_bobodd way you have of sleeping SurfnKid10:08
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michael__hello all10:09
Agent_bobyo michael__10:09
MyNameIsNotBob!pastebin10:09
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 10:09
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michael__how's it going, bob?10:09
Agent_bobwell10:09
externhow to add a custom script to the startup?10:09
rahonavisoh no now yahoo wants to buy ubuntu !10:09
SurfnKidi keep wanting the ATI driver running so i thought about lookin that up10:10
SurfnKidbefore i hit the sack10:10
ompaulrahonavis, I will sell it to them at $100 for postage and packaging10:10
rahonavishehe10:10
Agent_bobextern put it in /etc/init.d  and  man update-rc.d    for how to activate ti10:10
Agent_bobit10:10
michael__that would be a really scary event rahon. Think of the ad campaign. Ubuntoo-oo.10:10
rahonavisi'll place my order now :)10:10
ompaulthey want to put spyware into it to see how google do their stuff?10:11
ompaul!offtopic10:11
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!10:11
michael__surfinkid, did you see the EasyUbuntu site yet?10:11
michael__I think it might have the ATI driver.10:11
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SurfnKidI'll take a look10:11
michael__Basically, I used it to install all those naughty codecs that didn't come with the distro.10:12
jameygmichael__, yeah it's a real time saver10:13
michael__Can't live w/out my ifilms.10:13
Agent_boboh yeah codecs  knew there was something else i was going to do10:13
michael__Or my shoutcast.10:13
maikolanyone here used python for cgi in apache under ubuntu10:14
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AlmtyBobhow do you get a count of the number of items in a directory in the console?10:15
michael__Can't say I have maikol. My programming knowledge is about as outdated as the commodore 64.10:15
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Agent_bobAlmtyBob man ls10:15
ompaulAlmtyBob, ls | wc -l10:15
AlmtyBobthanks10:15
AlmtyBobyah I woulda swore I didn't see that in the man page for ls 8)10:16
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Agent_bobdon't you need a -1 in there10:17
ompaulAlmtyBob, that is a L10:17
beppebuongiorno10:17
externAgent_bob, I tried to use update-rc.d, but I don't think it works10:17
AlmtyBobit's a -l10:17
ompaul!it10:17
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:17
externor I may have done something wrong10:17
Agent_bobls -1 | wc -l10:17
michael__So is everybody having fun w/dapper?10:17
AlmtyBobthe output is lines/words/characters?10:17
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ompaulAlmtyBob, help yourself with man wc10:18
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michael__brb all10:18
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Agent_bobextern ls /etc/rc?.d | grep <name of your script>10:18
ompaulAlmtyBob, the info you have now and that will make you much more informed (I nearly wrote uninformed :-))10:18
AlmtyBobman pages suck, I'm going to have to keep my giant command dictionary on my desk10:19
Astinus-Hulloh, the umm slashdot story about ubuntu recently mentioned that dapper would be relased tomorrow, is this most likely an estimate or definite?10:19
fix-does anybody know how to setup portforwarding using the -L command line option doing more then 1 forward ?10:19
ompaulAlmtyBob, that one is short and very very useful10:19
fix-I don't want to do 10 connections for 10 forwards10:20
externAgent_bob, it does list it10:20
SurfnKidis this the file? http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.25.18-x86.run for the ATI card?10:20
externbut I doesn't do what it is supposed to to10:20
externto do10:20
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Agent_bobAlmtyBob yeah it's a lot easier to let us keep typing the answers over and over for you and all others than typing them one time in the manpage and let you read them.......10:20
odiousonewhere can i find themes for gnome?10:20
ompaulAlmtyBob, they may be hard to get used to but the thing about them is this, when you need to so something obscure and you are on a customer site :-)10:20
SurfnKidwhen i run 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx' i get a weird error that says its not available or needs to be from another source10:21
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Agent_bobextern is your script executable ?10:21
thoreauputic!themes10:21
AlmtyBobAgent_bob: I know the whole teach a man to fish thing, I'm just saying a lot of these console commands are extremely outdated and almost intentionally obfuscated10:21
externprobably not :/10:21
brad`15 hours sux10:21
thoreauputic!tell odiousone about themes10:21
brad`i need to install new distro now :(10:21
ompaulAlmtyBob, dear me take that to #ubuntu-offtopic you are so not right there10:21
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externit should execute 3 bash commands10:22
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capitanplanetahi, anyone knows how can I batch convert a lot of TIFF images to JPEG?10:22
Agent_bobextern try to run it.  /etc/init.d/<filename>10:22
brad`capitanplaneta, imagemagik10:22
capitanplanetathx10:22
brad`install it and "man convert"10:22
externhmm, I ran it from root user10:23
externand it says permission denied10:23
thoreauputiccapitanplaneta: the command in imagemagick is "convert"10:23
externits name is "ics" and it contains this:10:23
externiptables -F -t nat10:23
externiptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE10:23
externecho 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward10:23
thoreauputicbrad`: oops sorry - didn't see your answerr10:23
Agent_bobextern chmod 700 /etc/init.d/yourfile10:23
brad`thoreauputic, happens a lot in a fast chann :)10:23
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thoreauputicbrad`: :)10:23
Agent_bobextern chown root /etc/init.d/yourfile10:24
odiousoneif i install dapper will i be able to dist-upgrade when the final release comes out?10:24
MrMistHi all10:24
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thoreauputicodiousone: sure10:24
externwell it doesn't say permission deined10:24
externbut how to know if it is executed?10:24
odiousonethoreauputic: and it'll be as if i installed final?10:24
ompaulodiousone, yes, but if you update it now I do not think there will be any updates between now and then10:24
MrMistI'm searching for an open-source library to process wav/mp3 files... preferably ogg too10:24
thoreauputicodiousone: yes10:24
brad`personally i'm afraid of "dist-upgrade" :)10:24
thoreauputicbrad`: why?10:24
ompaullast dapper update was 1:30 am utc10:24
brad`big operation, any my servers are offsite10:25
thoreauputicbrad`: works here (tm)10:25
thoreauputicbrad`: ah I see10:25
MrMistBy the way... is dapper released yet ?10:25
brad`btw, does ubuntu have apache1?10:25
Agent_bobextern you want root to own it and no one else be about to write to it.   a permiscuse init script is a big security hole.      also  no error means no error.10:25
thoreauputicMrIron: nope10:25
thoreauputicMrIron: June 1st10:25
externso will it work now?10:25
Healottomorrow10:26
brad`15 hours till released10:26
ompaul!dapper10:26
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then10:26
Astinus-and knoppix 5.0.1 the day after tomorrrow :P10:26
ompaulbrad`, ... some time on the 1st10:26
Agent_bobextern it will do what ever the script says do......   i have no idea what you put in there/10:26
brad`wiki says 15 hours, i'm counting down to the second :)10:26
brad`its gotta counting backwards clock10:26
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odiousonewait dapper final tomorrow?10:26
thoreauputicodiousone: yes10:27
externok, I'm going to test it10:27
odiousoneohhh10:27
odiousone:D10:27
brad`im bored. 15 hours is slow. :)10:27
Astinus-the naming of the dapper cd's is strange: Server for permanently install on a computer?10:27
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thoreauputicAstinus-: no - that's the special server edition10:27
Astinus-i thought server was for using dapper as a server10:27
thoreauputicAstinus-: alternate is for text install10:28
MrMistGuys !? Anyone know a open-source app/lib for gettin parts of a wav/mp3/ogg file ???10:28
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brad`its also good for lazy asses that don't like upgrading :)10:28
brad`5 years, nice :)10:28
capitanplaneta/join #ubuntu+110:28
odiousoneif dapper's gnome network-configure doesn't save WEP keys from APs you've connected to i swear i'm gonna have to submit a patch10:28
Agent_bobMrMist audacity10:28
thoreauputicAstinus-: the desktop CD is for live & install10:28
Healot!mp310:28
ubotump3 is, like, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:28
Healotfor MrMist10:28
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thoreauputicAstinus-: in other words what used to be called the install CD is now called "alternate"10:29
Astinus-hmm interesting10:29
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Astinus-both live and install in one cd10:29
thoreauputicalternate should really be "alternative"10:29
UserName14I am trying to setup an ubuntu server and i am confused about the email aspect of the server I am following the ubuntu server guide and i have installed dovecot and postfix and both appear to be working but when i try to login via pop3 it rejects my user (i have been able to send myself an email from my gmail account) I think it could be because I have not installed the other programs listed in the guide. But I am confused about if10:29
UserName14i need the programs (i would prefer to keep this system nice and clean) Anyway anyhelp would be apreciated10:29
thoreauputicUserName14: woah10:30
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thoreauputicUserName14: that's a lot of text for a fast channel...10:30
UserName14thoreauputic, sorry lol10:30
Agent_bobchannel is not so fast right now.10:31
ompaulAgent_bob, you could be right you could be wrong10:31
Agent_bobsee10:31
UserName14if anyone did read my post this is the link to the guide i refered to http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/email-services.html10:31
thoreauputicUserName14: you might get better answers in a dovecot &/or postfix channel - your question is pretty specialised10:32
ompaulUserName14, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Dovecot10:32
UserName14my question is about the guide10:32
UserName14my question is about the guide10:32
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UserName14i want to know if i need the other software or not10:32
thoreauputicUserName14: OK10:32
HealotUserName14: it's yours to decide10:32
ompaulUserName14, did you follow that guide?10:32
UserName14yes so far, but i got the impression a lot of the stuff after dovecot was "optional" but i am having problems and dont KNOW if it was optional as the guide does not say10:33
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shinuto delete a user i use 'userdel' right?10:34
thoreauputicshimmmy: deluser is easier10:34
B0FHis dapper released today or tomorrow?10:34
thoreauputicshimmmy: deluser <username>10:34
visik7probably B0FH depend on where are you in the world10:34
B0FHeastcoast usa10:34
thoreauputicB0FH: tomorrow10:35
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B0FH:(10:35
B0FHlol10:35
thoreauputicB0FH: june 1st10:35
Agent_bobinteresting.  if kdm starts x it's on tty7   if i startx it's on tty5 (the first open tty)  why would kdm specify tty7  ????      wouldn't that be an issue if tty7 was busy.10:35
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thoreauputicAgent_bob: tty7 is the usual X tty10:36
rares_Hi all10:36
rares_one small question: I have the 6.06 Desktop iso10:37
thoreauputicAgent_bob: so yes, if it was busy kdm wouldn't start I guess10:37
rares_and I want to update my 5.10 Ubuntu but from CD10:37
rares_and not to download all the info again from the net10:37
rares_who do I do it?10:37
thoreauputicrares_: add the CD to synaptic or use apt-cdrom add10:37
rares_thoreauputic: I did10:37
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thoreauputicrares_: did you update/reload?10:38
rares_thoreauputic: it took 5 pck from CD and started to download again10:38
thoreauputicrares_: which CD did you use?10:38
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thoreauputicrares_: my understanding is you need the "alternate" CD to do that10:38
thoreauputicthe desktop CD doesn't have all the packages IIRC10:38
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rares_thoreauputic: this one http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso10:39
thoreauputicrares_: see above10:39
rares_thoreauputic: hmmm ok, 10x for the info10:39
thoreauputicrares_: I think you need the "alternate" CD10:39
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thoreauputicrares_: not much room for packages on the "live" CD10:40
noodlemanhey10:40
noodlemani need some help10:40
crazy_penguinrares: are you from romania?10:40
Healotask, noodleman10:40
thoreauputic!tell noodleman about ask10:40
crazy_penguinrares_: are you from romania?10:40
SoirAlso: there's no guarantee that all the packages one needs will be on the alternate CD, I think10:40
rares_thoreauputic: ok.. then the majority of debs will be from the CD and only those that are not will be downloaded ?10:40
noodlemanI was upgrading to the ^.06 RC10:40
rares_crazy_penguin: yes10:40
noodleman6.06*10:40
crazy_penguinok10:40
thoreauputicrares_: I think so, yes10:40
rares_thoreauputic: 10x10:41
noodlemanand after the download, during the installation, the screen just seemed to go balnk10:41
rares_crazy_penguin: why?10:41
crazy_penguindo you want to join us on ubunut-ro?10:41
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noodlemanthe computer was on but I couldn't get a response from everything, I hadn't been keeping an eye on the upgrade and so I just restarted10:41
rares_crazy_penguin: aha, astral cluj I got it :)10:41
noodlemanit's corrupted the install though :(10:42
rares_crazy_penguin: do you have 6.06 installed ?10:42
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crazy_penguinyes10:42
crazy_penguinrares_: yes10:42
Agent_bobthoreauputic actually no.    it seems that it uses tty7 as the lowest tty and advances to the first free tty    so i guess they thought they knew what they were doing10:42
rares_crazy_penguin: is it faster then the 5.10? a lot faster?10:42
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rares_crazy_penguin: I installed elive yesterday and it's faster then 5.10 for sure10:43
crazy_penguinthat i don't know because i started with dapper10:43
thoreauputicAgent_bob: you mean kdm automatically advances to the next tty ?10:43
rares_crazy_penguin: I can't wait to see 6.0610:43
Agent_bobthoreauputic yes10:43
thoreauputicAgent_bob: that would make sense :)10:43
Agent_bobyeah but having a lower limit still seems strange to my way of thinking10:44
thoreauputicAgent_bob: you have only 4 console/text tty s ?10:44
Agent_bob810:44
thoreauputicAgent_bob: by default it's 610:44
Agent_bob1234 21 22 23 2410:44
Agent_bobi know10:45
thoreauputicah OK - well that isn't default config, of course10:45
brad`where can i search ubuntu's packages without installing it?10:45
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Agent_bobnothing default on this box10:45
thoreauputicbrad`: packages.ubuntu.com10:45
thoreauputicAgent_bob: :)10:45
brad`thc10:45
brad`x10:45
Agent_bobthoreauputic no partition table on the main hdd10:45
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brad`thank god, apache1 :)10:46
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brad`apache2 is the devil!10:46
noodlemanis there any way I can wipe the hard disk from Ubuntu's command prompt?10:47
thoreauputicbrad`: Works Here (tm) ;P10:47
brad`dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda10:47
brad`make sure you wanna before you do that though :)10:47
lawinereplace hda with the device of choice10:47
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Agent_bobor /devzero10:48
Agent_bobor /dev/zero10:48
Ngurandom will take *ages*10:48
brad`thoreauputic, it gets yukky when you try write modules10:48
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aylovits /dev/null10:48
brad`i like to do job properly :)10:48
Ngdev/null won't produce anything10:48
Ngdev/zero will produce zeros10:48
Agent_bobdd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda10:48
[nige] anyone having problems with dapper and kde?10:49
[nige] i know goto #ubuntu+1 :P10:49
noodlemanhmm im slightly confused10:49
Agent_bob[nige]  only that it's ugly10:49
h3sp4wn[nige] : What is the problem ?10:49
lawineif you really want to remove all trace of Windows or the Pr0n,  do the wipe-thing several times :)10:49
brad`whats with [universe]  ?10:49
[nige] hmm i cant update anymore10:49
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[nige] i have unmet dependancies10:49
thoreauputicbrad`: pardon?10:49
brad`apache (1.3.34-2) [universe] 10:50
ompaul!universe10:50
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource10:50
Agent_bob[nige]  sudo apt-get install -f10:50
[nige] kdebase-bin (= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu26) but 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu23 is installed ---thats my probelm10:50
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[nige] Agent_bob, i tried that10:50
[nige] it didnt works10:50
Agent_bobwhat that does for ya ?10:50
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thoreauputicbrad`: it's in the universe repo prewumably10:50
ompaulbrad`, use apache2 :-)10:50
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thoreauputic*presumably10:50
Agent_boblets see the error man.10:51
Agent_bob[nige]   ?10:51
brad`ompaul, apache2 has lazy internals10:51
[nige] The following packages have unmet dependencies:10:51
[nige]   kdesktop: Depends: kdebase-bin (= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu23) but 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu26 is to be installed10:51
[nige] E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)10:51
thoreauputic[nige] : and did you try what it said?10:51
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Agent_boband that is from sudo apt-get install -f   ?10:52
[nige] whoops my bad10:52
[nige] :)10:52
[nige] i did the sudo apt-get -f install package name10:52
[nige] :S10:52
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thoreauputic;P10:52
[nige] thoreauputic, cheers :P10:52
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noodlemanhow can I see a list of my hard disks and their partitions and names?10:52
thoreauputic[nige] : heheh :)10:52
aztunnoodleman: mount10:53
thoreauputicnoodleman: df -h or sudo fdisk -l10:53
[nige] does gnome support different wallpapers on desktop like kde 3.5 does?10:53
brad`fdisk10:53
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Agent_bobnoodleman sudo fdisk -l10:53
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noodlemanthanks thoreaupeutic10:53
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helpmehello10:53
helpmeI need help with getting java10:53
helpmeI have heard of blackdown Java10:53
helpmebut I cannot get it10:53
[nige] tis pretty much the only reason i run kde :)10:53
helpmeit always fails10:53
thoreauputic!tell helpme about repos10:54
brad`[nige] , i couldn't get it to, but you can make a large wallpaper in gimp :)10:54
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brad`[nige] , your talking dual screen?10:54
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helpmethe piece of crap will download 2 MB of 2110:54
thoreauputic!java10:54
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:54
helpmethen just crap out10:54
SurfnKidhey Agent_bob how do I save my X window config file10:54
brad`!hello10:54
ubotuHi, brad`!10:54
[nige] brad`, yer i could but tahts effort :P yes using daul screen10:54
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igorzolnikovUBUNTU IS NICE.... BUT VERY VERY VERY SLOW!!!10:54
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cth23hi10:54
SurfnKidigor its fast here :)10:54
thoreauputicigcek: check your caps key please10:55
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brad`igorzolnikov, i've heard that before10:55
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helpmeyeah I have multiverse10:55
vinboyigorzolnikov: recompile ur kernel10:55
knfirehello10:55
helpmebut it wont downlaod from there10:55
helpmeit just dies10:55
vinboyigorzolnikov: take out everything u dun need10:55
Healotigorzolnikov: if you have slow CPU and low RAM :)10:55
helpmeor comes up "failed"10:55
SurfnKid!xwindow10:55
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid10:55
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elliotthi10:55
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Agent_bobhelpme uncommented ?    no  # at the front of the line ?10:55
helpmeyes I have downloaded other packages from multiverse as well10:56
helpmemany of the media codecs are there10:56
SurfnKidhow do you save your X Window config file?10:56
helpmeand I have all of them10:56
igorzolnikovRAM: 1Gb; CPU 1GHz;10:56
helpmebut I can't get java from some reason10:56
Healotigorzolnikov: define "slow"10:56
Agent_bobidk10:56
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thoreauputicSurfnKid: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak10:56
[nige] hmm i dont have a problem with ubntu and i run on a celeron laptop with 256mb ram :)10:56
SurfnKidty10:56
aztunSurfnKid: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /dev/null10:56
aztunmaybe10:56
[nige] its pretty happy :>10:57
helpmeI will be back10:57
thoreauputicaztun: *cough*10:57
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helpmeI think I found an FTP server that has it10:57
Flannelaztun: that sort of stuff will get you banned.10:57
igorzolnikovProcessor use 5-10% only10:57
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thoreauputicaztun: that will send it to the bit bucket10:57
SurfnKidhehe10:57
aztuney10:57
aztunjust joking10:57
igorzolnikovMemory only 40%10:57
aztun:)10:57
thoreauputicaztun: not funny10:57
mibukhey10:57
Agent_bobigorzolnikov it's all that ram that slows it down.    i have 98m ram on this p100mmx  and it works fine.10:57
SurfnKidim just one step from rebooting, ATI just finished installing drivers, but said to back up X Window so i gotta do that10:57
petrikOk samba and nfs are beyond me. (god only knows how I'm going to get the printer to work on the other PC) What's the best ftp solution out there?10:57
thoreauputicaztun: there new people here who don't know10:57
dobblegoI am trying to mount a Windows share using mount -t smbfs but I am getting a messge in syslog "smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported" - why come?10:58
mibukis there a new unstable / development depot now that dapper is in total feature freeze?  i.e. I want vim7.0 and gcc4.1 if they are available and am happy to be running unstable10:58
igorzolnikovMy firefox scroll page very slow10:58
igorzolnikovRendering very slow10:58
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[nige] well that could be slow internet10:58
Healotigorzolnikov: i think it's your X server config10:58
Agent_bobcould be firefox10:58
igorzolnikovAll window slow rendering10:59
Healotthat's why your screen draws slow10:59
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igorzolnikovi use standard config10:59
aztunigorzolnikov: maybe u havent good driver for your vga10:59
Healotyou misconfigured X somehow...10:59
igorzolnikovi don't change10:59
igorzolnikovmay be10:59
aztunmaybe u are using vesa driver10:59
igorzolnikovhow can i know?10:59
Agent_bobyeah it's all that ram.....10:59
Agent_bobthat's the problem11:00
Agent_bob:)11:00
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aztun cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver11:00
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SurfnKidbrb rebOOOt11:00
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aztunto see which driver u are using11:00
igorzolnikov        Driver          "kbd"11:01
igorzolnikov        Driver          "mouse"11:01
igorzolnikov  Driver        "wacom"11:01
igorzolnikov  Driver        "wacom"11:01
igorzolnikov  Driver        "wacom"11:01
igorzolnikov        Driver          "vesa"11:01
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aztundriver vesa, I told u    :)11:01
thoreauputicigorzolnikov: DO NOT paste in here!11:01
igorzolnikovhow can i change?11:01
[nige] igorzolnikov, you use ati right....11:01
Agent_bobthree wacoms and a vesa  wins this hand11:01
dobblegoby removing the CTRL or V key from your keyboard11:01
igorzolnikovmay be11:01
aztunlspci | grep VGA11:02
Healotigorzolnikov: "less /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and paste the output to pastebin.com11:02
aztuntoo see which vga u use11:02
igorzolnikov0000:00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2)11:02
thoreauputic!nvidia11:02
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia11:02
Agent_boband there you have it.11:03
dobblegoeverywhere I google for my error message tells me that I do not have smbfs installed - isn't that the samba package? if so, I have it installed11:04
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Agent_bobsmbfs - mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x)11:05
[nige] anyone got fn keys to work on laptops?11:05
dobblegohow can I assert that smbfs is installed?11:05
thoreauputicgeneral warning: the channel will be busy because of the release - we will be muting on paste - no more mister nice guy11:05
[nige] i think its apt-query -s smbfs11:05
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Agent_bobdobblego sudo apt-get install smbfs11:05
dobblegodapper has been released?11:05
igorzolnikovhow can i know GF1 or GF2?11:06
Healottomorrow11:06
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Soirsmbfs always breaks for me11:06
Soiruse cifs11:06
dobblegohttp://rafb.net/paste/results/S3y4M874.html what's that?11:06
Agent_boblibjcifs-java - java library for the CIFS/SMB networking protocol11:07
dobblegotomorrow dapper is released?11:07
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Agent_bobdobblego do the sudo apt-get update and try it again11:08
dobblegoAgent_bob: yeah I am, thanks11:08
igorzolnikovhow can i know GeForce1 or GeForce2?11:08
Agent_boblshw11:08
dobblegoAgent_bob: that fixed it all - the smb mount worked, thanks11:09
Agent_bobnp11:09
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mwhitbyhi everyone, i have a fetchmail question that i hope someone can help with:11:10
dobblegowhere can I read about the ubuntu release schedule?11:10
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mwhitbyI want to download mail to a local user account but also forward it to a remote pop3 user11:10
Agent_bobhttp://www.ubuntu.com   maybe ?11:10
Flanneldobblego: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule11:10
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mwhitbyanyone have any ideas how to help with that?11:11
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igorzolnikovi have Error: your X configuration has been altered.11:11
Agent_bobnothing that doesn't sound convoluted mwhitby11:12
igorzolnikovwhen...  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable11:12
mwhitbyAgent_bob, cheers for the answer, I had a bad feeling that would be the case :S11:12
Soir'dapper is a LTS release: its cycle will be RIGID and BORING'11:13
SoirI am amused11:13
dobblego~LTS11:13
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Agent_bobLTS ?11:14
FlannelLong Term Support (or something like that)11:14
thoreauputicAgent_bob: Long Term Support11:14
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Frogzoo!dapper11:14
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then11:14
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thoreauputic3 years desktop, 5 for servers11:14
h3sp4wnmwhitby: You can (need to ?) use procmail for forwarding11:14
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igorzolnikovi installes NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver11:15
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igorzolnikovsudo nvidia-glx-config enable11:15
Frogzooso is Dapper releasing tomorrows?11:15
dobblegomy missus reckons ubuntu rocks, except I can't get our printer to work11:15
thoreauputicigorzolnikov: ubuntu uses xorg, not free8611:15
mwhitbyh3sp4wn, ah ok thats interesting as i want to acheive this: download mail from a users mailbox, forward it to another user and also auto-respond to the mail informing the user in on vacation11:15
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kaasvacation will be fine11:16
mwhitbyi was going to use procmail to do the latter part, so you think the best way would be to use fetchmail to download, then procmail to auto reply and foward?11:16
FilladoFrogzoo: Yup11:16
igorzolnikovwhat can i do?11:16
kaasnothing11:16
FrogzooFillado: thx11:16
thoreauputicigorzolnikov: follow the wiki11:16
mwhitbykaas, can vacation acheive everything i specified?11:16
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thoreauputic!nvidia11:16
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia11:16
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kaasI guess so11:17
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StarkozizHello! i'mlooking for someone who has compiled VLC with the MBAFF support. I tried to do it on my own but it did not work11:18
Agent_bobi have a half a mind to11:18
Agent_bobo11:18
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igorzolnikovi have not other nvidia-glx-legacy...11:18
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kaaswhat a shame11:19
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igorzolnikovsudo nvidia-glx-config enable11:19
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igorzolnikovError: your X configuration has been altered.11:20
igorzolnikovThis script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this11:20
igorzolnikovnot correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following11:20
igorzolnikovcommand:11:20
igorzolnikovmd5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum11:20
igorzolnikovotherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section11:20
igorzolnikovfrom nv to nvidia.11:20
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Jimmey__!paste11:20
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 11:20
thoreauputicigorzolnikov: I warned you not to paste - please read the /topic11:20
Xebitxwhen doing bash scripting can one use elseif?11:20
thoreauputicXebitx: elif I think11:21
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kaasppor igorzolnikov11:21
kaaspoor igorzolnikov11:21
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thoreauputickaas: I wArned him, and gave a general channel warning as well11:21
Agent_boblooks like the instructions igorzolnikov pasted are pretty sf11:22
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kaasalright11:22
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thoreauputicigorzolnikov: don't do it again!11:23
thoreauputicigorzolnikov: you are no longer gagged11:23
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igorzolnikov:-)11:24
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thoreauputicigorzolnikov: if you paste again you will be kick-banned11:24
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igorzolnikovi have error... then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable11:24
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igorzolnikovplz help... without... talk about ban ban ban11:25
Agent_bobigorzolnikov we saw that.     so do what the error message said.11:25
igorzolnikovi have not time11:25
defryskigorzolnikov, are you useing dapper ?11:25
igorzolnikovyes11:25
thoreauputicigorzolnikov: /join #ubuntu+111:25
igorzolnikovlast version with all update11:25
defrysknvidia-xconfig11:25
defrysktry that11:25
thoreauputicigorzolnikov: wrong cahnnel for dapper11:25
defryskuse sudo11:26
thoreauputic*channel11:26
Soir(for all of one day)11:26
igorzolnikovthanks... :-)11:26
Agent_bobhmmmm no time.11:26
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thoreauputicSoir: I'm reducing noise ;)11:26
defryskthoreauputic, I think hardly anyone here stil uses breezy11:26
Soirthoreauputic: It's relatively quiet just now ;)11:26
KholerabbiGnome or KDE?11:26
thoreauputicdefrysk: true11:26
Flanneldefrysk: I do.  Well, on my important machine.11:26
MrMistI'm using Breezy11:26
Agent_bobKholerabbi bb11:26
thoreauputicSoir: igorzolnikov wasn't quiet until I gagged him ;)11:27
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thoreauputicSoir: but yes, dapper is almost here, agreed :)11:27
defryskigorzolnikov, did that work ?11:27
igorzolnikovno11:27
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defrysko?11:27
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defryskanyway , have to shower11:28
igorzolnikovthoreauputic plz help... without empty talk11:28
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thoreauputicigorzolnikov: it wasn't empty talk and you should have paid attention to it11:28
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thoreauputicigorzolnikov: telling an op that his warnings are empty is not a good strategy by the way11:29
thoreauputic:)11:29
defryskigorzolnikov, sudo nvidia-xconfig should do the trick if you have nvidia-glx installed11:29
igorzolnikov i will try11:29
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ompauligorzolnikov, there is no try, there is just do11:30
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igorzolnikovi have not nvidia-xconfig11:30
defryskompaul, you talk like a nike rep ;p11:30
igorzolnikovinstall?11:30
ompaul!nvidia11:30
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia11:30
ompauligorzolnikov, ^^^ read that line there11:30
ompaulit works!11:30
thoreauputicompaul: he has beemn told 3 times already11:31
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thoreauputicompaul: and gaggedfor pasting as well11:31
Agent_bobigorzolnikov sudo nano /etc/X11/sorg.conf       hit  F6  type  nv   and  replace the   mv with nvidia     hit F3   save and exit.11:31
PlumTreeHello ;-) My firefox is still looking for lacking plugins, but it lasts almost half an hour...11:32
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PlumTreeI do not know what to do with this problem because it doesnt seem to find them.11:33
LukicI got Ubuntu 6.06 Live CD but it won't boot.How to set it?11:33
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Jimmey__Lukic, have you set up your BIOS boot order correctly?11:33
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LukicI have.11:33
Jimmey__And do other CDs boot with this machine?11:34
igorzolnikovi don't want vi-liked application11:34
LukicI got cdrom as first boot11:34
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thoreauputicigorzolnikov: peopel try to help and you tell them what you don't want ...11:34
LukicDidn't try11:34
Agent_bobwont work/wont boot  is not quite vague enough for us to tatally ignore you.   try     help!    that should be vague enough11:34
thoreauputicigorzolnikov: at least try11:34
igorzolnikovuse nano11:35
ompauligorzolnikov, some times in life there is great freedom in having no choice, it appears you have been told several times how to fix this, in great detail11:35
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ompauligorzolnikov,  and at a high level - please take the advice and use it, or you will find that you can't ask for any at all11:36
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igorzolnikovi am stupid11:37
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ompauligorzolnikov, not taking the advice which is explicit is a stupid action, I doubt that your are stupid however11:37
igorzolnikov1) i installed nvidia-glx-legacy,11:37
igorzolnikov2) i tried sudo nvidia-glx-config enable11:38
igorzolnikov3) i have error11:38
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ompauligorzolnikov, maybe you need to take a break and come back to it later and start at the beginning of the web page and work through it again11:38
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thoreauputicigorzolnikov: what is your first/ native language ?11:41
krissalut11:42
ompaul!fr11:42
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:42
igorzolnikovrussia11:42
ompaul!ru11:42
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help11:42
igorzolnikovi speak english very bad11:42
krishello11:42
thoreauputicigorzolnikov: go to the russian channel - they might help better11:42
igorzolnikovno11:42
ompauligorzolnikov, they may be able to help you better11:42
thoreauputicigorzolnikov: again you ignore our advice...11:42
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Agent_bobDONT YELL !11:43
thoreauputicigorzolnikov: if you won't go to your language channel and won't do what we suggest, why are you here at all?11:43
ompaulAgent_bob, ?11:43
thoreauputicAgent_bob: ?11:43
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thoreauputicAgent_bob: who's yelling?11:44
Agent_boboh just me11:44
igorzolnikovbecause little people in russian channel...11:44
thoreauputicexactly :)11:44
thoreauputicigorzolnikov: ah, Ok - well as ompaul suggests, try re-reading the wiki page11:44
Agent_bobtrying to take the heat off of our red troll11:44
igorzolnikovubuntu not popular in russia11:44
thoreauputicigorzolnikov: it will work if you follow it carefully11:45
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Agent_bobDONT YELL !11:45
Agent_bob:)11:45
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thoreauputicAgent_bob: careful ....11:45
ompaul:-)11:45
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igorzolnikovbecause many free windows... :-)11:45
thoreauputicheh11:45
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ompaulAgent_bob, don't I am not in the humour :)11:45
thoreauputicAgent_bob: we are both in BOFH mode - be warned ;)11:45
igorzolnikovin russia... don't buy... ms windows... only crack :-)11:46
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igorzolnikovmay be wiki for 5.10... i have ubuntu 6.0611:46
Agent_bobi know.  that's why i was trying...  i can take it.  that guy is sure to get the ax.11:47
ompauligorzolnikov, stop wait11:47
thoreauputicigorzolnikov: try #ubuntu+111:47
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ompauligorzolnikov, this conversation is over  http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/11:47
cachedurgent: how do i put the letter pi in oo draw11:47
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MrSmileHi people.... I am totally happy wirh ubuntu but have problems to initialize and to set the runlevels11:48
MrSmileCan somebody help me?!11:48
Astinus-MrSmile: more specific?11:48
cachedctrl shift F#11:49
MrSmilefor example, I want /etc/init.d/mysql.server is being started11:49
Agent_bobMrSmile sure11:49
ompaulcached,  get that by insert special character    OO.org11:49
MrSmilei can't get it, that it started at boot time and stops at shutdown11:49
Astinus-you want mysql to startup when starting ubuntu?11:50
MrSmileIf i enter Gnome. the services application, also I see many things not listed11:50
Agent_bobMrSmile pastebin the script ?11:50
ompaulMrSmile, 345 not used 0 off 1 single user 2 full on 6 reboot11:50
igorzolnikovthanks ompaul... but... russian instructions equals english... i will try again11:50
ompauligorzolnikov, guess you need to join a lug11:50
blue-frogMrSmile, update-rc.d mysql-server start 2 3 4 5 . stop 0 1 6 .11:50
Flanneligorzolnikov: this is strictly a breezy (5.10) support channel, for another day or so.  #ubuntu+1 for dapper support.11:50
igorzolnikovnvidia-glx11:50
igorzolnikovi will try11:50
cachedthx11:51
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igorzolnikovin ubuntu+1 don't answer me11:51
MrSmileI will try it11:51
thoreauputicigorzolnikov: patience11:51
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thoreauputic!patience11:51
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.11:51
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keyrole1hello?11:51
Flannelkeyrole1: hi.11:52
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Agent_bobMrSmile that update-rc.d string ^     expects the script to be in the proper format.   is it a home made script ?11:52
keyrole1this is my first time here...i was wondering if i cud get assistance with prinitng services for Ubuntu11:53
HymnToLife!printer11:53
ubotuhmm... printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org11:53
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ompauligorzolnikov, read this web page and stop talking about nvidia here  http://www.linux.org/groups/russia.html11:53
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keyrole1thanx ubotu. checking out the site now.11:54
ompaul!ubotu11:54
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.11:54
FTLOGhelp me for the love of God, I have used the package o matic tool and I have YET to get package list that doen't have atleast some part fail to load11:54
Piotszecan i have some link to installing the opera web browser please ?11:54
FTLOGthis is utterly maddening11:54
thoreauputic!opera11:54
ubotudownload the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser11:54
FTLOGcan someone please send me a valid package list11:54
FTLOG?11:54
ompaulFTLOG, for which version11:54
Piotszety very much11:54
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FTLOGdapper11:54
MrMistI need a audio splitter that can handle mutpile formats... anyone know what I should use ??11:54
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YogSothothHi11:55
FTLOGI know that the official package list disigner on ubuntu is supposed to work11:55
FTLOGBUT IT DOESN"T11:55
FTLOGthe lists it generates fail utterly11:55
ompaulpackages.ubuntu.com/dapper11:55
FTLOGI need a repository list that is11:55
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Agent_bobFTLOG package list  or  suorces.list ?11:55
thoreauputicFTLOG: works here and in many other systems11:55
FTLOGsources.list11:55
YogSothothWhen I boot Ubuntu my Windows disk is auto detected and auto mounted... but as root ! So I can't read it11:55
FTLOGthat is11:55
FTLOGand I am using the tool11:55
thoreauputicFTLOG: which tool?11:55
YogSothothHow can I tell Ubuntu to mount it as my user?11:55
FTLOGhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:56
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FTLOGthat file that someone sent me11:56
keyrole1okay thank you, bye11:56
FTLOGwhere does it save?11:56
FTLOGbecause it did not appear on my desktop when it was done downloading?11:56
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thoreauputicFTLOG:  /etc/apt/sources.list11:56
Agent_bobFTLOG install in /etc/apt/  and do  sudo apt-get update11:56
FTLOGI am using xchat11:56
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thoreauputicFTLOG: DCC depends on your client - ~/.xchat2 for xchat11:57
Agent_bobFTLOG try $HOME11:57
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FTLOGnope11:57
thoreauputicAgent_bob: id thet xchat default for dcc now?11:57
ompaulYogSothoth, change the entry in fstab to change the word defaults into ntfs user,umask=00011:57
thoreauputicFTLOG: try ~/.xchat211:58
FTLOGis there a link to an ideal sourcelist someone can give me?11:58
Agent_bobFTLOG type find /home -name sources.list11:58
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ompaulYogSothoth, /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0  <<< it should look like that11:58
Piotszeis it true that ubuntu is based on debian ?11:59
thoreauputicPiotsze: yes11:59
thoreauputicPiotsze: very much so11:59
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FTLOGthe damned thing is contradicting itself11:59
thoreauputiccafuego_: what's the matter? ;-)11:59
FTLOG/home/kevin/.xchat2: is a directory11:59
FTLOGxchat2: No such file or directory12:00
thoreauputicFTLOG: yes, look in there12:00
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FTLOGhow can it be a directory12:00
cafuego_the summer weather here in holland has been the same as the winter weather in melbourne for the past 2 1/2 weks12:00
thoreauputicFTLOG: erm12:00
FTLOGand there be "no such directory"?12:00
FlannelFTLOG: with a .12:00
thoreauputicFTLOG: it's a "hidden " dir12:00
Piotszei was searching for some apps in debian new release (stable) and i was wondering why in  the hell it has some older apps like firefox 1.0.4  and not like that 1.0.8 in ubuntu12:00
thoreauputicFTLOG: the dot hides it12:00
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FlannelFTLOG: you need to have the . in the name to cd to.12:00
Agent_bobFTLOG /home/kevin/.xchat212:01
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thoreauputiccafuego_: wish you were here... glorious weather /me ducks12:01
TangotangoHi, I have a problem with the Breezy Badger-provided version of Firefox and its caret painting - the caret remains even when I move to a different character with the keyboard12:01
ompaulcafuego_, its not summer yet12:01
HymnToLife!tell Piotsze about debian12:01
FlannelPiotsze: FF 1.0.8 IS in the repositories.12:01
thoreauputicompaul: is it ever ?12:01
thoreauputicompaul: ;)12:02
HymnToLifethey have a different policy about package updating12:02
cafuego_ompaul: Fair enough, but FROST at night is overdoing it12:02
Piotszeo12:02
ompaulcafuego_, okay I will go for that12:02
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igorzolnikovi installed nvidia-glx... and Driver "nvidia" in xorg.conf... but window rendering very slow... again12:02
ompaul!nftsperms12:02
ubotuompaul: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:02
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FTLOGok I think I found one12:03
Immoloheya is dapper still be realsed tomorrow?12:03
Agent_bobPiotsze debian stable means stable.12:03
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thoreauputicigorzolnikov: then you did something wrong, clearly12:03
FTLOGthanks guys12:03
Piotszeyeah i think this was good idea to migrate to ubuntu from microsoft os, gez i had so much trojans, viruses, etc. etc.12:03
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thoreauputic;P12:04
ompaul!winfstab12:04
ubotuin fstab it should look **like** this:: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       012:04
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ompaulwell done to whoever12:04
igorzolnikovi use ubuntu on other computer... and have not this problem12:04
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TIIPOSback12:05
TIIPOSi need help12:05
ompauligorzolnikov, or it does not have that card12:05
TIIPOSwhy does synaptic list packagest that is cannot download?12:05
thoreauputiccafuego_: BTW thanks for the Airport firmware stuff :)12:05
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Piotszeyeah dapper is comming but whot bout kubuntu - would it be too with cd-release on dapper ?12:05
Agent_bobTIIPOS did you sudo apt-get update ?12:05
TIIPOSyes12:06
TIIPOSI did12:06
thoreauputicompaul: it was only a matter of time...12:06
Bimmerman1911ubotu: what is the difference of iocharset=utf8 and nls=utf8?12:06
ubotuBimmerman1911: what are you talking about?12:06
TIIPOSand then i looked for a package12:06
TIIPOSand found it12:06
TIIPOSin synaptic12:06
TIIPOSwhen I tried to install it12:06
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TIIPOSit downloaded 76#12:06
TIIPOS76% that is12:06
TIIPOSand then failed?12:06
TIIPOSwhy would it list a package that it cannot send to you?12:06
thoreauputic!enter12:06
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.12:06
Agent_bobit didn't.12:06
TIIPOSsorry about that12:07
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Piotszethat means flood, right ?12:07
K|NgGh0sTsince I am being forced to use UBUNTU, what is the closest release to Debian's etch?12:07
Agent_bobif you got 76% it's not synaptics fault12:07
ompaulPiotsze, that does, paste.ubuntu-nl.org is the same12:07
Bimmerman1911what is the difference of iocharset=utf8 and nls=utf8 anyone?12:07
TIIPOSthen whose fault is it Agent_bob?12:07
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thoreauputicTIIPOS: possibly the server12:08
Piotszeok thx i will keep it on my mind to give links on priv.. ;)12:08
ompaulTIIPOS, look at your network or service provider or server - change servers12:08
Agent_bobTIIPOS try in the terminal sudo apt-get install <package name>   so you can see the error message if it fails12:08
ompaulPiotsze, you can give links in the channel to paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then people can view them and maybe help12:09
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Bimmerman1911hello! im trying to download to a vfat partition with azureus and i get the error Operation not permitted, setLength fails, whats wrong?????12:09
Agent_bobalso doing it that way, if it's the connection you can resume but running the same command again.12:09
TIIPOSI mean how am I supposed to administrate my system if I cannot rely on it?12:09
Piotszeo i c thats very helpfull i think so12:09
K|NgGh0sTDoesnt Ubuntu use a netinst?12:09
Agent_bobTIIPOS find the problem, then work on the answer12:10
thoreauputicTIIPOS: the problem is more likely the server or the network - synaptic is very reliable12:10
ompaulTIIPOS, I have webservers running with it doing virtual domains and mail and stuff, I have desktops running it - no problems change your repo to point to something else - where is it pointing at the moment?12:10
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Agent_bobme bets wireless inet there....12:10
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TIIPOSits pointing to NL12:12
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thoreauputicBimmerman1911 has an attention span of 2 minutes, aparrently ...12:12
TIIPOSjust now12:12
TIIPOSI was using CA12:12
TIIPOSand it was failing12:12
TIIPOSso I switched everything to NL12:12
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ompaulTIIPOS, well where are you ?12:12
TIIPOSand for the moment its working12:12
Piotszelol i have just installed my opera =) COOL thx for links! this is surelly the best chan i have ever seen12:12
thoreauputicTIIPOS: try removing the nl.12:12
TIIPOSI am in the USA12:12
TIIPOSbut the US ones sucked even worse12:12
thoreauputicTIIPOS: the us mirror is very flaky, yes12:13
TIIPOSthe nl is actually working for the moment actually :)12:13
thoreauputicTIIPOS: good12:13
HannibalI'm assuming this is the right place to ask about networking trouble on a new install of Ubuntu Breezy Badger? :)12:13
TIIPOSI like ubuntu though12:13
TIIPOSthe thing is working great12:13
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TIIPOSasside from that problem12:13
Agent_bobso now cuss synaptic....12:13
ompaulTIIPOS, us is bad on a regular basis, however if all of them are failing then look at your network12:13
ompaulAgent_bob, yeah yeah noted :-)12:13
ompaul!offtopic12:14
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!12:14
TIIPOSnl is great actually12:14
Hannibalompaul: was that directed at me? I'm assuming it wasn't, but... :)12:14
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thoreauputichow long has the us. mirror been unreliable? Months at least - has anything been done about it?12:14
ompaulHannibal, no I was going to ask you for some elephants12:14
TIIPOSwow it actually got all of kubuntu12:14
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Hannibalompaul: most of them died a few thousand years ago. It was great fun being in the alps though.12:15
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thoreauputicTIIPOS: enjoy :)12:15
sethIs there a way in ubuntu to RAID Striped two firewire drives??12:15
ompaulTIIPOS, this is a support channel, if you want to chatter please use #ubuntu-offtopic12:15
mjrseth, sure12:15
mjrseth, just attach the drives, umount if they're automounted, and create the raid as normal (see the Software-RAID-HOWTO)12:16
Hannibalso... suppose I have a laptop with a tulip-compatible ethernet card and an Atheros-G pcmcia wireless card.12:16
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Piotszecan i close my x-chat to icon too like my friend has it?12:16
Hannibalboth used to work exceptionally well when I was still running Debian 3.112:16
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sethThanks...12:16
HannibalI used to run trunk madwifi and wpa_supplicant for the wireless, though.12:17
Hannibalanyway.12:17
sethI think that I will be in here more often...12:17
HannibalSince switching to Ubuntu, I've been having trouble getting DHCP to work.12:17
Piotszeyeah i think the same12:17
sethI just installed ubuntu on my Mac mini12:17
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MrMistI haven't used CVS a lot... it's quite confusing. i want to download these files, but I can't resolve the CVSROOT from the URL12:17
ompaulHannibal, serve or recieve?12:17
Hannibalompaul: receive.12:17
MrMisthttp://sox.cvs.sourceforge.net/sox/12:17
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MrMistwhat do I do ??12:18
Hannibalompaul: mii-diag says everything's fine, the network icon indicates that there's traffic, but dhclient just fails to pick up anything.12:18
MrMistexport CVSROOT="" ??12:18
noodleany mirrors have dapper final yet12:18
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ompaulHannibal, I had that on a box, had to replace the card12:18
thoreauputicnoodle: no, since it comes out tomorrow12:18
thoreauputic:)12:18
Hannibalompaul: hrm, any clue why that'd work fine with Debian stable then?12:18
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thoreauputicnoodle: unless your time machine is well oiled12:19
ompaulHannibal, it used to work and then it did not and then it did and then ... one day it did not at all12:19
Hannibalompaul: and besides, this is a laptop - fat chance of getting a new card12:19
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ompaulooch12:19
sethDoes anyone mind if I am idle in here ??12:19
noodlewhy not release it one day early :(12:19
Healotseth: no?12:19
ompaulseth, no12:19
sethThanks...12:19
thoreauputicseth: hundreds already are ;)12:19
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sethTTYL12:19
sethlol12:19
sethYeah12:20
sethIC12:20
ompaul!enter12:20
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.12:20
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Agent_bobseth but enter is not punctuation12:20
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sethWhat does the enter key do in here??12:20
sethNothing...12:20
thoreauputicseth: beware the wrath of the ops !12:20
defryskthe wrops12:21
Agent_bobscrolls the text we are trying to read12:21
sethSerously... what am I doing wrong??12:21
thoreauputicseth: just don't break your stuff up into multiple lines12:21
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Hannibalompaul: the wireless card is fairly new... so from my perspective, it's a problem with whatever dhclient Ubuntu is running. Also, this may be relevant... the interface does pick up packets, and it lists a fair amount of them as 'errors' - is there any way to inspect those or somehow figure out what's going wrong with them?12:21
ompauletherreal12:21
ompaulforget ntfsperms12:21
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sethis this ok??12:22
Hannibalgood point.12:22
thoreauputicseth:  Use sentences, with punctuation and clauses and the usual things expected in civilised discourse. ;)12:22
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Agent_boband smillies (:12:22
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sethOk I will I just did not know. Thank you.12:22
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seth:)12:22
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thoreauputicseth: no worries ;)12:23
Hannibalhrm. Is etherreal not in the repositories?12:23
sethGoing to school BBL O_o12:23
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noodlehow easy is it to upgrade from RC to final?12:23
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Agent_bobnoodle two commands12:24
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Healotapt-get ?12:24
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Agent_bobHealot yeah apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade12:25
thoreauputicompaul: good luck ;)12:25
Hannibalhrm.12:25
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Hannibalmental note: complain to uni's IT department that we need cd burners and a cd-r vending machine in here.12:26
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HannibalI'd install dapper right now to see if it's any better, and apt-get is not getting anywhere without a network connection.12:26
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cachedpff12:26
Astinus-a little bit weird question probably, but i recently fired up the kubuntu vmware image. And upon startup it wanted to download quite a lot of updated packages. Is it possible in a bandwidth-limited enviroment to limit the updates in any way yet still retain security?12:26
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cachedi hard wire all my programs by hand12:26
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DieKrake303hi all12:27
cachedastinus: put all the updates on a cd once and from then on use that as a repo12:27
Agent_bobAstinus- dapper ?12:27
mpathyHi there.. Something to laugh in these stressy release days? I modified a dilbert comic yesterday: http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9422/dilbertunixmm8tp.gif ;)12:27
thoreauputicAstinus-: read the changelogs I guess, and see what you really need12:27
Astinus-Agent_bob: generally asking?12:28
ompaul!register12:28
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Astinus-cached: see, thing is really that i have friends in some not too well developed countries and bandwidth is a luxury..12:28
Gh0sTeEDoesnt Ubuntu use a netinst?12:28
Agent_bobAstinus- if you run the development version  aka bata   then the updates are a houndred fold.12:28
thoreauputicmpathy: heh - copyright violation! ( I know the original well - nice addition)12:29
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Healotmpathy: even Dilbert ?12:29
cachedastinus-: you can mail it to them if possible, but thats about it. you cant get updates without downloading them somehow otherwise12:29
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mpathythoreauputic: its only for you hard-working guys to have fun ;)12:30
Astinus-cached: i suppose patching the binaries is a nono ?12:30
thoreauputicmpathy: yeah - I was kidding - thanks :)12:30
Gh0sTeEguess not12:30
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cachedastinus: you could also try making an image of a hard drive12:31
ompaulmpathy, send it back and say they should release that verison of it :)12:31
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ompaul!timetable12:32
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more.12:32
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soundrayWill there be a release party here or in -offtopic?12:33
mpathyompaul: but ubuntu is "linux for human-beings" and not "..for bearded, suspender-wearing beings" *gg*12:34
ompaulsoundray, in pubs and talk in offtopic this is a support channel (usually)12:34
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thoreauputicsoundray: I'd bet on -offtopic12:34
thoreauputicmpathy: hey, I resemble that remark! *g*12:34
ompaulmpathy, yeah so say there can be all sorts behind him12:34
soundrayThanks12:34
soundrayompaul: once dapper is out, Ubuntu won't need support. So we can use the channel to party, right?12:35
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mpathythoreauputic, ompaul: I only meant that because the people would think then all ubuntu users look like Alan Cox or RMS ;)12:36
ompaulsoundray, ehhh wrong on so many levels12:36
Agent_boblol12:36
thoreauputicsoundray: might confuse the newbies :)12:36
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ompaulmpathy, so have mark pushing the bearded guy out of the way12:36
thoreauputicmpathy: and we don't ?12:36
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Agent_bobthat's when the work will start in here soundray12:36
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nutterpcproof in the pudding of *why* linux is better for the geek........if hardware dies (like my old board did about 30mins ago), you can swap over to your new gear, and ubuntu just boots straight up with no hassles12:37
nutterpc:)12:37
mpathythoreauputic: I cannot allow me to grow a beard like that in my office *ggg*12:37
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Tidusnew releases always come with the new people going 'WtF?! why doesnt this work like <blahblahblah>'12:37
bleurghwhats the quickest way to install ubuntu on a load of machines?12:37
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thoreauputicbleurgh: join a LUG ;)12:38
dcostawhere should i set my dns server address so i can connect to the net?12:38
dcostai use the opencd version of ubuntu12:38
K|NgGh0sTIs there a netinstall for Ubuntu?12:38
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Healotto make sure eerything runs fine on your PC, install Windows XP12:38
mpathyompaul: perhaps I should better modify sth. like that: http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/wp-content/ep042.jpg12:38
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ompaulbleurgh, netinstall is one way oem is another - dd drives is another depends12:38
thoreauputicHealot: *cough*12:38
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bleurghoem = copying drive contents?12:39
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pomeFella's, how do I upgrade ruby on breezy?12:39
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pomeI'm getting 1.8.3, I want 1.8.412:39
pomecan I upgrade using apt-get somehow?12:39
mpathyuh a troll in the ubuntu channel one day before release.. thats like a black cat *g*12:40
dcostai know nothing about networking12:40
thoreauputicpome: 6.06 comes out tomorrow12:40
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pomethoreauputic: cool - I can wait a day!12:40
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Hannibalok. So I stole the ip of the dns server of this uni machine. I want the submask settings and all that12:41
Hannibalobviously, I don't have admin rights on this machine. It's running Linux. How do I get to those settings? :)|12:41
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dcostawhere should i set my dns server address so i can connect to the net?12:42
TidusHannibal: type /sbin/ifconfig on a terminal12:42
Hannibal(I got the ip of the dns server by simply running an nslookup)12:42
thoreauputicpome: can you wait a day ?12:42
thoreauputic!upgrade12:42
ubotuhmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.12:42
Astinus-umm, a default install of 5.10. What download sizes are we talking about when doing a dist-upgrade to 6.06?12:42
TidusHannibal: that'll give you the subnet12:42
soundrayHealot :D12:42
HannibalTidus: I don't have root or sudo or anything, that would never work, would it?12:42
TidusHannibal: /sbin/ifconfig will run as user.  you just cant modify settings12:42
Hannibalhow silly. Thanks, Tidus! :)12:42
TidusHannibal: /sbin/ifconfig for the subnet, and 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' for the nameservers12:43
pomempathy: did you call me a troll?12:43
HannibalTidus: hrm, I set gateway to the first thing to come up in traceroute - is there a more scientific way to do that? :)12:43
thoreauputicpome: I don't think that was directed at you12:43
mpathypome: no I meant the "install win xp and everythings fine" sentence ;)12:43
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pomempathy: ok, just wondering12:44
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TidusHannibal: hold on... i'll tell ya how to figure your gateway12:44
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thoreauputicpome: happened before you joined I think12:44
pomempathy: to some, ruby is inflammatory!12:44
NgTidus: route :)12:44
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TidusHannibal: just type route and look at the bottom line12:44
thoreauputicpome: language wars in #ubuntu-oftopic ;)12:44
mpathyruby woul be my choice of scripting language if there wouldnt be python ;)12:45
HannibalTidus: alright. Last question, I hope, how do I set the broadcast... thing. ?12:45
thoreauputichmm -offtopic12:45
HealotRMS joke?12:45
TidusHannibal, broadcast defaults to 255.255.255.25512:45
thoreauputicmpathy: no language ars please ;-)12:45
Tidususually you wont need to set it12:45
Hannibalthat's the mask, isn't it?12:45
thoreauputic*wars12:45
HannibalI'm at uni12:45
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Hannibalit does funky stuff to all of it.12:45
Tidushm.12:45
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Tidusbroadcast shouldn't need to be manually set.12:46
Hannibalso mask is 255.255.255.0 here12:46
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mpathythoreauputic: I answered in a very diplomatic way I am innocent ;)12:46
Hannibaland bcast on this machine is 146.something.9.25512:46
thoreauputicmpathy: heh12:46
TidusHannibal: sounds like standard stuff to me.12:46
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Hannibaland on my laptop it got set to 146.something.255.25512:46
Hannibalwhich seems... wrong? :)12:46
TidusHannibal: you can leave the broadcast alone.  it'll find its own route for that12:46
Agent_bobbottom line of route here is    'default         *               0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 ppp0 '     what does that say ?12:46
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NgAgent_bob: that means all traffic not for your local machine/network will be routed via the ppp0 interface12:47
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HealotAgent_bob: that says all other traffic (not local) will go through  ppp0 interface12:47
Agent_bobhmmmm k12:48
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Hannibalugh. I had a working nslookup a while ago, now it's failing again.12:49
Agent_bobb52's ?12:49
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TidusHannibal: for nameservers, you'll need to poke the /etc/resolv.conf file to tell you the nameservers12:50
h3sp4wnHannibal: Can you ping ipaddresses (i.e without using dns)12:50
HannibalTidus: did that. Had used an nslookup before, that worked too.12:50
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Hannibalh3sp4wn: unlikely.12:50
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h3sp4wnHannibal: That implies ppp0 is not up then12:50
thoreauputicHannibal: try "host" instead of "nslookup"12:50
mpathya launchpad question: why did some packages appear from the status bars as uncomplete translations, when they, if you click at it, complete filled out?12:50
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Uniqqhi, does anyone know how to change the order of drives within the raid array? As they appear to be randomly used looking at /proc/mdstat12:51
Hannibalh3sp4wn: what's ppp0? I'm not using a modem...12:51
h3sp4wnHennibal: ppp over ethernet ?12:51
Hannibalwhat's ppp? :)12:51
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Hannibalit would be a hell of a lot easier if dhcp 'just worked' though :)12:52
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h3sp4wnjust run sudo dhclient eth012:52
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Hannibalyou missed the convo I had before.12:52
Hannibaldhclient fails to do anything.12:52
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Hannibaland yes, I *am* certain my uni is running a dhcp server, and that everything's plugged in.12:53
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h3sp4wnHow do you know they are not using mac address filtering to stop people from doing that ? Have they said it specifically is allowed12:53
Hannibalor well, anything - 'anything useful', should you prefer.12:53
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Hannibalthey have a secure wireless which uses the same dhcp server.12:54
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Hannibalmac address blocking wouldn't work.12:54
Hannibal(not for the wireless being open except that you need student credentials to get past the WPA security)12:54
h3sp4wnHow do you know the switches don't have port security on them ?12:54
HannibalI'd use the wireless if it wasn't flakier than the ethernet, and dhclient worked on that - which it doesn't either.12:55
Hannibalbecause I could connect to the dns server fine before?12:55
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h3sp4wnSo it was working and it has stopped ?12:55
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chowells2Try a different dhcp client?12:55
Hannibalyeah, after I tried configuring more so I could actually get off the lan12:55
Hannibalchowells2: dhclient3 doesn't work either, if that's what you mean.12:56
TidusHannibal: try using dhcpcd12:56
Uniqqhi, does anyone know how to change the order of drives within the raid array? As they appear to be randomly used looking at /proc/mdstat12:56
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chowells2Hannibal: I was thinking dhcpcd or pump12:56
chowells2though pump is possibly years and years old12:56
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Tiduschowells2: but pump is *still* used by knoppix12:56
Pistahhhi12:56
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Hannibaldhcpcd can't be found, from a sudo -s shell.12:56
chowells2Tidus: ah. wondered it it was still compilable and stuff even12:56
Pistahhanybody here running ubuntu in 8bit color depth?12:57
Hannibalso I'm betting that's a no\12:57
Agent_bobwget is old  but works well12:57
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Hannibal'pump' is not found either12:57
Agent_bobdo one thing and do it right12:57
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TidusHannibal: use sudo -i12:57
chowells2Hannibal: apt-get install dhcpcd12:57
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Hannibalchowells2: without a network connection?12:57
chowells2go somewhere with one :)12:57
Hannibalcatch-22, sorry mate.12:57
chowells2or burn it on a CD12:57
igorzolnikovi resolved my problem without you... but i have max resolution of screen max 1024 now ... with nvidia driver12:57
TidusHannibal: use sudo -i instead of sudo -s12:58
HannibalI have so far managed to get it working once, that was 2 weeks ago. And somewhere else, where I can't go back to right now (conference thing).12:58
Tidus'sudo -i' initializes a full root environment, along with its environment variables ... the functional equivalent of 'su -'12:58
HannibalI don't have a cd burner at hand.12:58
Agent_bobHannibal what's this box you are chatting on ?  it has inet.   can't the lappy connect to that ?12:58
Hannibalit's a uni box.12:58
Hannibalit doesn't have a second ethernet port12:58
Hannibaland if it did12:58
Agent_boboh12:58
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HannibalI still wouldn't be able to configure it to allow my lappy to do anything.12:59
Hannibalnot having admin/sudo on here.12:59
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HannibalTidus: done - no luck though.12:59
HannibalI really wonder what broke the DNS though.01:00
TidusHannibal: possibly the fact that you haven't setup /etc/resolv.conf yet?01:00
Tidusthen logged out and back in?01:00
kdean06Is the Dapper gnome-desktop-environment package compatible with Debian?01:00
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h3sp4wnHannibal: Find out the mac address of the computer you are on change the mac address of your card to that unplug it then test if it works then01:00
HannibalTidus: I'm being a wuss and using the network admin gnome utility01:00
martii01:01
TidusHannibal: quit bein a wuss and start poking the command line :)01:01
HannibalI'm already doing that.01:01
Tidusa little knowledge on the command line will get you further01:01
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ompaulmartii, ?01:01
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HannibalI do have that little knowledge, but I'm just saying that while I'm not sure that the gnome thing is touching /etc/resolv.conf, it probably is.01:01
|newbie|hi, guys01:01
ompaul|newbie|, there is also #kubuntu :-)01:01
Hannibalwooo01:01
Hannibalgot dns back01:02
TidusHannibal: it probably isnt.01:02
Tiduslol01:02
|newbie|anyone here from malaysia?01:02
Hannibalby changing the netmask from 255.255.255.0 to 255.0.0.001:02
YogSothothompaul: actually my fstab looks like this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GaO0U413.html01:02
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Agent_bobkdean06 prolly not.   they are not compiled the same, debian and ubuntu; from what i hear.  it might work.  but i wouldn't recommend it.01:02
Healot|newbie|: me01:02
Hannibalso now I want a working net connection too...01:02
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Hannibaleep!01:02
Hannibalit's working :01:02
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Hannibalit seems.01:02
kdean06Agent_bob, That's what I was afraid of. I figured, but...01:02
Tidusdoes it let you online?01:02
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Hannibalthat is, pinging google works01:02
Hannibalwhich is a good sign.01:03
Tidusif so, then *don't touch it*01:03
jendacan someone recommend a WYSIWIG html editor?01:03
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Healotnvu!01:03
Hannibalbrowser works too. Yay!01:03
Hannibaljenda: what Healot said.01:03
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TidusHannibal: good... now *don't touch the settings*01:03
jendareally?01:03
jendaok01:03
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HannibalTidus / ompaul / everyone: thanks! :)01:03
HannibalTidus: roger that :P01:03
Agent_bobtidus  ted maybe ?01:03
Healotit's on the repos "universe" section, jenda01:03
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jendathx01:03
YogSothothompaul: is that good if I replace it with that: http://rafb.net/paste/results/mIqq1I46.html01:03
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TidusAgent_bob: huh?01:04
Jaak_is there a known problem with ati and win+WorldofWarcraft?01:04
toomaihi all01:04
jendaHealot: I'd use a text editor, but a younger convert asks :)01:04
ompaulYogSothoth, yuk use paste.ubuntu-nl.com and put into it the following information >> cat /etc/fstab ; mount ; sudo fdisk -l   << that is what I want and stop using rafb.net I can't edit that page and hand it back to you paste.ubuntu-nl.org works better01:04
Agent_bobTidus sorry.01:04
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ompaulYogSothoth, that is .org not like .com as I wrote at the beginning01:04
Healotjenda: for now, I guess "nvu" works fine, and "amaya" is full-pack (maybe not for young ones)01:05
ompaul!wow01:05
ubotuTo run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource01:05
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jendaOK01:05
brad`where do install failour logs go"01:05
brad`?01:05
Agent_bobjenda ted maybe ?   can it do html ?01:05
Healotfailure log, brad`?01:05
brad`yeh that thing :)01:05
Healotif system/kernel failure, "dmesg"01:05
ompaulbrad`, most logging goes to /var/logs to read most of the files a "tail logfile" is useful01:06
TidusAgent_bob: i personally like bluefish01:06
Healotif application specific, refer the application manual01:06
Tidusdunno if it's wysiwyg tho01:06
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brad`yeh i found dpkg log but it wasn't very detailed01:06
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Agent_bobTidus tell jenda01:06
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jendaTidus: gotcha01:06
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Agent_bobTidus and sorry for the mis-address while ago01:06
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TidusAgent_bob: no harm no foul :)01:07
Tidusonly thing it did was print a red line in xchat01:07
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jendaAgent_bob, Tidus, Healot, Hannibal thanks :)01:07
Agent_bobit's "no bloud, no foul"01:07
HealotTidus: blufish dont do wysiwyg, but i can consider it is powerful01:07
Agent_boboo01:07
Jaak_I know how to get wine running, i have it running perfectly on my other ubuntu system, that has Nvidia, but my laptop has Ati and so i was wondering if it's a known problem with ati chips01:07
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TidusHannibal: why the 3hr limit?01:09
YogSothothompaul: pastebin, nopaste, and now ubuntu-paste... how can I remember what to use for each channel ?! :-)01:09
HannibalTidus: because then I have dinner with some friends, and class again01:09
Tiduso lol01:09
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TidusYogSothoth: you can use any pastebin with any channel01:10
HannibalI had an exam this morning01:10
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Hannibalfigured I'd use this time in a useful way01:10
Hannibalbut we're getting offtopic, so I'll hush now :)01:10
Agent_bobjaak not known to me... <shrugs/>01:10
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zerkowskigh01:11
ompaulYogSothoth, paste.ubuntu-nl.org works well most people just don't want rubbish in their channel - the one I am suggesting is rather friendly and all i want is a url if you do it in that one I can send you back a url by working directly on your paste01:11
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CatalinuXhi everybuddy01:11
Agent_boband don't forget rafb's pastebin01:12
ompaulAgent_bob, that did not allow me edit it :-)01:12
Tidusompaul: and pastebin.com doesn't allow direct editing?01:12
ompaulTidus, don't know or care I only pointed to one here that works01:12
CatalinuXI installed Breezy some time ago and upgraded to Dapper using Synaptic. Yesterday I installed WindowsXP and my GRUB is gone, so I cannot boot Ubuntu anymore ? How can I restore my GRUB installation ?01:13
ompaulTidus, this came from a request where I had something I could not edit01:13
Agent_bobi have pasted about 5 times in my life, so i have no preferance.01:13
ompaul!grub01:13
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting01:13
YogSothothompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1490101:13
ompaulYogSothoth, thanks, back in a couple of minutes01:13
CatalinuXthanks ompaul01:13
YogSothothompaul: thank *you*!01:14
ompaulYogSothoth, tell me, you only have 2 CDs and 1 floppy?01:14
Agent_bob!dualboot01:14
ubotufor wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot01:14
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eggzeckJaak_, what kind of ATI?01:15
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Agent_boblooks to me like one cd and one floppy01:16
thoreauputicYogSothoth: woah, that's a wild /etc/fstab...01:16
Agent_bobaint it01:16
thoreauputicwhat happened?01:17
thoreauputicweird indeed...01:17
Agent_boboh i missed the hdd first clance01:17
Agent_bobglance01:17
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YogSothoththoreauputic: really? I never touched it, it was created by Ubuntu Dapper Flight 201:18
YogSothothompaul: yes, one dvd-rom, one cd-r and one floppy01:19
thoreauputicYogSothoth: you have repeated entries for /dev/hdc and your floppy like I wouldn't believe...01:19
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Agent_bobhda1 is swap ?01:19
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Agent_bobhehhe that looks like something i would do01:20
TIIPOSwow01:20
TIIPOSI cannot believe Kdevelop01:20
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TIIPOSits amazing01:20
Jae686sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <- let me see if it will work...01:20
petrikHow can I find the details of my printer so I can share it through CUPS?01:21
Jaak_eggzeck, i have a ati RADEON X60001:21
linchrissDoes anyone know why I cant shutdown the system from the system->quit menu?01:21
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ompaulYogSothoth, sorry I had to take a call will do that now01:21
tarzeauwhere can i download 606?01:22
thoreauputictarzeau: cdimage.ubuntu.com - but final isn't out yet01:22
thoreauputictarzeau: 1st of June01:22
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petrik1st of june... another 37 minutes away01:23
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thoreauputicpetrik: UTC I would guess - you have to wait :)01:23
scheuripetrik: ubuntu is due to release on the first??01:23
xice;P01:23
thoreauputicscheuri: correct01:23
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scheuripersonally I think that is a bad idea...01:24
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tarzeauthoreauputic: but i want the final01:24
xicebut, what time zone june 1?01:24
thoreauputictarzeau: you'll have to wait then :)01:24
scheuritarzeau: then patience is your friend...:)01:24
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thoreauputictarzeau: Real Soon Now (tm)01:24
thoreauputictarzeau: a la Debian ;-)01:24
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ompaulYogSothoth, here is the way that file should look>>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14904 << >> sudo nano /etc/fstab << put that data inthere, then run this command >> sudo mount -a01:26
thoreauputicscheuri: why is it a bad idea? Just curious...01:26
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ompaulYogSothoth, it will work every time after that01:26
HannibalSo... where is etherreal hiding as a package?01:27
scheurithoreauputic: first they put pressure on themselves..."june" would have been okay meaing 20th would be fine too01:27
thoreauputic!info ethereal01:27
ubotuethereal: (network traffic analyzer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.10.12-2ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 485 kB, Installed size: 1312 kB01:27
Hannibaldo I need to add some custom repositories to get what I want? :)01:27
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thoreauputicscheuri: it was already delayed 6 weeks - no pressure there01:27
Hannibalhumdiedum. That's nice of it, but apt-cache search ether doesn't find it. What am I missing?01:27
scheurithoreauputic: second and most important...to my "feelings" and all the threads in ubuntuforum.com i am not confident that it is really polished anough for LST01:28
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thoreauputicHanna_: universe01:28
thoreauputicbah01:28
Hannibaldamn tab-complete ;)01:28
thoreauputicHannibal: ^^^01:28
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thoreauputicindeed01:28
scheurithoreauputic: but I don't know if that 2 month were enough to make it LST...but...that is just me01:28
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n00busers i need help about ubuntu -- how to config motorola wirelss lan card ... help please 01:28
Hannibalhrm. So I don't know what that is, but I bet ubotu can tell me - I'll figure it out, thanks! :)01:28
n00busersi need help about ubuntu -- how to config motorola wirelss lan card ... help please01:28
Agent_bobethereal - network traffic analyzer01:28
linchrissHas anybody had problems with some programs looking strange.. as if the fonts was like draged out?01:28
Agent_bobethereal-common - network traffic analyser (common files)01:29
scheuriLTS Long Term support...not LST...01:29
thoreauputicscheuri: seems pretty stable - but I hear you01:29
Agent_bobHannibal my apt-cache search has no problem01:29
thoreauputic!tell Hannibal about repos01:29
scheurithoreauputic: oh, absolutely...I do not make dozens of bad experiences (using it myself on one box), but still....01:29
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Hanniballook, I said I could figure it out - I just did :P01:29
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HannibalI'll scream when I'm failing.01:29
Hannibalthanks :)01:29
thoreauputicHannibal: congratulations01:29
thoreauputic;)01:29
scheuriHannibal: that sounded nasty for a second...;)01:30
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n00busersHannibal i need help about ubuntu -- how to config motorola wirelss lan card ... help please01:30
Hannibalscheuri: that'd depend on interpretation, so surely that wouldn't be my fault? ;)01:30
d42When attempting to install packages I get "The following packages cannot be authenticated!"; Usual cause is not having the key installed for the package. How do I find out what key is used for signing a package?01:30
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scheuriHannibal: okay...touche...;)01:30
thoreauputicHannibal: my ESP dropped out for a few seconds - sorry01:30
Hannibaln00busers: have you googled? I don't have any answers for you. :)01:30
HannibalSorry.01:30
Hannibalthoreauputic: that's quite alright :P01:30
thoreauputicHannibal: hah01:31
soundrayn00busers: do you know the chipset that your wlan card uses?01:31
scheurin00busers: try wiki.ubuntu.org and then use motorla as search string at upper right corner01:31
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n00buserssoundray and Hannibal okay thanks.. ill get back to you guys asap01:31
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n00busersthanks scheuri01:31
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scheurino problems01:32
mercedezdear al01:32
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mercedezdear all01:32
thoreauputic!seen al01:32
ubotui haven't seen 'al', thoreauputic01:32
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thoreauputichmm01:32
thoreauputic;P01:32
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Agent_bobi liked that better the first time01:32
scheurimercedez: hi there...01:32
mercedezi have problem access with my program01:32
mercedezi'm only access a program only from root01:32
scheurimercedez...what program?01:33
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mercedezcan i change it01:33
mercedezvmware01:33
mattikooHello. I have large problems. I tried to look videos by realplayer in firefox and I didn't hear any sound. Then I tried with xine or totem or something to watch windows media in firefox. It showed all wrong. And now when I have done it I try to come irssi and ubuntu allways boot my X.01:33
thoreauputicmercedez: answer scheuri 's question first01:33
thoreauputicah01:33
mercedezok01:33
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scheurimercedez: first of all...it works when you start it as root? or do you get error messages?01:34
mercedezit work only from root01:34
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mercedezso i must go to root first and start the vmware01:34
scheurimercedez: okay...vmware workstation? vmware server? vmware player?01:35
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scheurimercedez: uh, okay...I actually only know server a bit...but...what error message do you get when you start vmware workstation with a normal user?01:35
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mattikoohow I can remove all players and codecs and install it again easy? I think it's something really wrong with my ubuntu.01:35
rigonattihi All!01:36
rigonattiwhere can I submit my incompability Issues01:36
thoreauputicmatti: try telling the channel what errors you are seeing01:36
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thoreauputicrigonatti: incompatibility with what ?01:36
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Hannibalthoreauputic: didn't think you used any meat. Wikipedia says so anyway.01:37
mercedezwell must go to superuser01:37
Hannibal;)01:37
mattikoothoreauputic: My gdm-login shows my home-folder and I can't login now01:37
scheurimercedez: actually I am asking for the exat error message if you try to start vmware with normal user...01:37
thoreauputicHannibal: "Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds" <-- Emerson ;P01:37
rigonattiThoreauputic:  My sound card dont work01:38
thoreauputic!doesn't work01:38
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.01:38
mercedezi dont remember01:38
rigonattiyep =.01:38
scheurimercedez: are you able to try it now ?01:38
Hannibalthoreauputic: "one cannot say of something that it is and that it is not in the same respect and at the same time" <- Aristotle01:38
Agent_bobmattikoo  you did a sudo nautilus   didn't you?       remove the .*auth* files from yout home and try again01:39
scheuriHannibal: Aristotle in a IRC Channel...that is a strong statement01:39
thoreauputicHannibal: Aristotle got many things wrong ;-P01:39
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HannibalSo did Emerson.01:39
HannibalDon't we all?01:39
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scheuri:)01:39
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thoreauputicHannibal: ----> #ubuntu-offtopic I think ;)01:39
mattikooAgent_bob: I'm not in nautilus. I was in gnome-terminal.01:39
Hannibalgood catch. Except that I'm not in there, sorry :)01:39
d42How do I obtain the signing key used for a package, prior to running "apt-get install <package>", so that the key can be registered before doing the install?01:40
mercedezwell i used my friend pc, i dont bring my laptop01:40
Seveasd42, which repository?01:40
FlannelHannibal: no, his comment was "this should be moved to -offtopic"01:40
motinDo you have problems with OOo after the latest updates? When creating a new spreadsheet as a tab, it won't come up to print/print preview or export to pdf... Is there a setting where I can choose to include a spreadsheet in printing or not?01:40
scheurimattikoo: not a solution per se...but...have you tried vlc?01:40
mercedezi install ubuntu in my laptop01:40
rigonattithoreauputic: ?01:40
CatalinuXHi all. I tried installing GRUB using the rescue mode from my install CD. It ends up with an error saying that menu.lst or something like that is not found. How can I fix this ?01:40
scheurimercedez: then I am afraid I cant help...it sounds a bit strange that only root can run it...sorry01:40
d42Seveas, I don't know. Is there a generic way of finding out the key?01:40
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HannibalFlannel: I'm well aware of that. I'm merely commenting that that's not practical and hence we'll cease our pointless (though rather amusing) discussion.01:40
new_to_ubuntu!<disable agp>01:41
ubotunew_to_ubuntu: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:41
motinCatalinuX: do it through live cd mode instead01:41
soundrayFriends, do you have a suggestion for me? I'm running a program that displays sections from a 3D volume. When I run it locally, it works fine. When I try via VNC, the window and control panels are all visible, but the actual display area stays black. Is there a fix/workaround?01:41
mercedezuse chown?01:41
CatalinuXI don`t have a LiveCD. Only a install CD01:41
d42Seveas, I know the package name.01:41
mattikooscheuri: thank you :) I have to now bring my wife to home. See you01:41
motinCatalinuX: in live cd mode, enable the root account, then run grub from a root prompt01:41
scheurimercedez: possible...but maybe you are lucky in a vmware-forum rather than here01:41
motinCatalinuX: are you trying out Dapper?01:41
scheurimattikoo: lucky you...:)01:41
Hannibalsoundray: I'm definitely not an expert at that stuff, but what does the program use to display stuff?01:41
mercedezokey01:42
CatalinuXI used Breezy and upgraded to Dapper with Synaptic01:42
Hannibalsoundray: OpenGL, plain X, ...?01:42
d42Seveas, Is it important to find out the repository name?01:42
mercedezthanks01:42
Agent_bobmattikoo you can use [alt] +[ctrl] +[f1]   and login the console,  and there use sudo rm .*auth*    and [alt] +[F7]   will take you back to the gdm screen01:42
soundrayHannibal: OpenGL01:42
CatalinuXand then installed Windows XP01:42
Seveasd42, usually it's "trying to install" followed by "missing key 1234567890ABCDEF" followed by "gpg --recv-keys 90ABCDEF && gpg --export --armor 90ABCDEF | sudo apt-key add -"01:42
motinCatalinuX: for Dapper, the place to discuss, at least until tomorrow, is #ubuntu+101:42
Hannibalsoundray: can it use anything else?01:42
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soundrayHannibal: not afaik...01:42
CatalinuXyes but it`s only grub that doesn`t work01:42
HannibalCatalinuX: you can upgrade to Dapper using just a package manager?01:42
scheurisoundray: I am neither an expert, but...maybe vnc is not able to transmit 3D stuff? only 2D because of bitmapping?01:42
HymnToLifeHannibal> yes01:42
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d42Seveas, yes, I saw many suggestions to that effect while searching Google for the past few hours on this subject.01:43
Hannibalunless you're switching to unstable.01:43
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Hannibalor testing. Or whatever Ubuntu calls that.01:43
motinCatalinuX: So the live cd is no longer the install cd?01:43
d42Seveas, unfortunately I don't have the key.01:43
Seveasd42, gpg --recb-key downloads it01:43
CatalinuXmotin: I used the Breezy CD to install Ubuntu so I don`t thing it`s a Dapper issue.01:43
HymnToLifeHannibal> man apt-get, look 'dist-upgrade'01:43
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rigonattiwhere can I submit my incompability Issues01:43
soundrayscheuri: yes, that's my guess too -- but is there perhaps a way to force VNC to show what's on the host? Even if it doesn't update as rapidly as the native host display?01:43
d42Seveas, yes, once I know the key, but I don't know the key.01:44
Agent_bobHannibal yes dapper is still beta  until tomarrow.01:44
HannibalHymnToLife: thanks. How long would it take, on a new default install, without too much other stuff?01:44
scheurisoundray: I am using freenx all the time, so I am not much of a help, sorry01:44
motinCatalinuX: ok, the breezy install cd is also a live cd. use the live cd mode, it'll work01:44
Seveasd42, apt-get will tell you 01:44
Hannibal(I know you can't predict anything exact, just curious for a rough estimate)01:44
soundrayscheuri: do you know of any freenx/OpenGL issues?01:44
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d42Seveas, Good, How does apt-get tell me?01:44
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Agent_bobHannibal dl speed ?01:44
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soundrayscheuri: 'coz I'll try freenx if there's any hope...01:45
CatalinuXmotin: Breezy install is also a LiveCD ? It actually presents me with a 'boot:' prompt after booting from CD01:45
scheurisoundray: well, not really as I am only using it as 2D...but it might be worth a try01:45
HymnToLifeHannibal> almost all your packages will be upgraded, so it's basically like doing a netinstall01:45
HannibalAgent_bob: university. So, um, T5 or whatever. A lot.01:45
scheurisoundray: freenx is better anyway (as in speed and security)01:45
d42Seveas, apt-get didn't tell me, when I attempted to install the package.01:45
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HymnToLife~600 MB depending the packages you installed01:45
Seveasit will tell you when you do apt-get update01:45
SeveasW: GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl dapper-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D46601:45
soundrayscheuri: thanks01:45
Seveassomething like that01:45
scheurisoundray: welcome01:45
motinCatalinuX: I remember that I could both install and use live cd mode from the cd that I installed breezy and also the dapper alpha cd01:45
rigonattipls all, where can I submit my incompability Issues?01:46
HannibalHymnToLife: hrm, fun. Might try that if I get my build working any time soon. Thanks!01:46
CatalinuXmotin: The Live CD is also an install CD, but not viceversa01:46
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motinrigonatti: launchpad for bugs01:46
scheuririgonatti: tell the developers...:)...in the official forum for example01:46
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motinCatalinuX: I see. I must have downloaded the live cd then.01:46
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rigonattitXs !!!!01:47
d42Seveas, I don't quite follow. I wish to install a new package. So how is apt-get update going to help?01:47
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motinCatalinuX: then I cannot help you. I also had to reinstall grub after installing Windows on another partition, and I used the LiveCD mode after failing in rescue mode numerous times01:47
CatalinuXOk. So does anyone know how can I fix the menu.lst thing ?01:47
Seveasd42, well, that package is in a repository...01:47
Seveasif you simply have a .deb you cannot get missing key errors01:48
d42Seveas, yes, it is in a repository.01:48
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Agent_bobCatalinuX well actually the install cd is a live cd of sorts,  just very specialized01:48
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BladesonfireCan someone help me get sudo privileges back on my system? Opening a shell through an install CD doesn't mount my root partition (even though it says it's at /target, but there is no "target" folder)01:49
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motinCatalinuX: I remember having to manually mount /boot in rescue mode01:49
Seveasd42, so do apt-get update, look at the gpg error, and add the key....01:49
CatalinuXmotin: Thanks, I`ll try that.01:49
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Agent_bobCatalinuX what menu.lst?     on an install ?    use the the install cd/live cd01:49
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soundrayBladesonfire: what happened to your root privileges?01:50
CatalinuXAgent_bob: When I try 'grub-instal /dev/hda6' it tells me that menu.lst is missing01:50
soundrayBladesonfire: sorry, sudo privileges?01:50
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BladesonfireI believe I lost it when I touched the file /etc/groups01:51
Agent_bobfrom where CatalinuX ?     is that the running system  or a cd or where are you issuing the command ?01:51
soundrayCatalinuX: use the --root-directory= option01:51
Bladesonfireerr... /etc/group01:51
d42Seveas, Oh! I see! I've done "apt-get update" and now the packing is installing without authentication errors.01:51
CatalinuXAgent_bob: The install CD, rescue mode01:51
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d42Seveas, Thanks for you help.01:51
Hannibalsuppose I sudo and change the date.01:51
Hannibalto some time in the past01:51
BladesonfireAfter that, I could no longer use sudo, with the error message being, "Sorry, user bladesonfire may not run sudo"01:52
soundrayBladesonfire: how did you touch it? With nano? Do you know what you changed?01:52
Hannibalthen the next time I run sudo, it will fail saying the timestamp is in the future01:52
Hannibalhow would I recover from such a problem?01:52
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scheuriBladesonfire: you (your user) seem to be no longer member of group "admin"01:52
Bladesonfiresoundray: I know what I touched... I just can't reaccess the partition01:52
Hannibal(apart from waiting it out)01:52
Agent_bobCatalinuX yeah.  mount the root partition and do it chroot grub-install /dev/hda601:52
SeveasHannibal, reboot01:52
njanHannibal, reboot in recovery mode, reset the time.01:52
Hannibalah. Figures.01:53
Bladesonfirescheuri: i believe that... but how would I get it back without root/sudo access?01:53
Seveas(on dapper reboot is enough since /var/run is a tmpfs)01:53
soundrayBladesonfire: I suggest you boot in recovery mode and fix your /etc/group from there.01:53
Seveasno need to reset time01:53
soundrayBladesonfire: select the second option from the grub menu (if you usually boot the first one).01:53
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CatalinuXAgent_bob: Already tried that. Didn`t work01:53
Hannibalis there an alternative to rebooting?01:53
scheuriHannibal: to do what?01:54
soundrayHannibal: wait until the system time has caught up with the timestamp time01:54
CatalinuXAgent_bob: How do I mount the /boot martition ?01:54
Seveashaving a root password and rm -rf /var/run/sudo/hannibal01:54
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HannibalI didn't have a root password, and didn't want to wait 3 hours. :)01:54
Hannibal(it was a fresh install)01:54
Bladesonfiresoundray: Sorry, this install is on a PowerPC and the boot menu (yaboot) is different from 386... how do I get to recovery mode from that menu?01:54
scheuriHannibal: ntp may readjust the time...:)01:54
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=== Hannibal has never been able to do that.
Hannibalgiven lack of network connections when it tries to do that at boot01:55
soundrayBladesonfire: oops -- I don't know. Perhaps the wiki does... but let's go the way you set off on. You've booted a live CD, correct?01:55
Agent_bobCatalinuX something like this. sudo mount /dev/hda6 /media && chroot /media sudo mount /boot && sudo chroot /media grub-install /dev/hda6     ?01:55
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paolob-parroquiaHi guys! has dapper been released or not?01:55
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Bladesonfiresoundray: The specific disk info is ubuntu-ppc-server-rc01:56
soundraypaolob-parroquia: Patience! 1 June01:56
CatalinuXAgent_bob: Thanks.01:56
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alphaBinisn't it released this week?01:56
paolob-parroquiasoundray, ah, ok01:56
Hannibalok, so I guess that it's a PBKAC. Don't do stupid stuff like that without a root pw if you're running other important stuff01:56
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soundrayBladesonfire: do you get any output from 'ls /target'?01:56
Bladesonfiresoundray: When I booted it, I entered "expert", then "execute a shell" at the install menu01:56
Bladesonfiresoundray: no such directory01:56
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orbinhow big would the update be from dapper RC to dapper final?01:57
scheuriorbin: no one knows for sure...01:57
soundrayorbin: expect that every package will be replaced.01:57
Agent_bobCatalinuX not real sure it will read the fstab  may have to supply the device for boot as well    && chroot /media sudo mount /dev/hda? /boot &&     <<< where ? is the correct number01:57
soundrayBladesonfire: do you know the device name of your root partition?01:57
orbinok, thanks01:57
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Agent_bobCatalinuX if you need to look at the partition table  do    sudo fdisk -l01:58
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Bladesonfiresoundray: Unfortunately, I don't, but my only choices are /dev/hda, and /dev/hdc1-401:59
chola01:59
[arcane] i thought debian used xorg??01:59
Agent_bobsome people get all the help they want before you get done helping them.01:59
scheuri[arcane] : they do...in testing and unstable01:59
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[arcane] scheuri: how would i enable getting them02:00
scheuri[arcane] : but not in stable aka sarge02:00
scheuri[arcane] : debian or (k)ubuntu?02:00
Agent_boboh well.  i'm gone.02:00
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[arcane] scheuri: debain02:00
Leminohow do I set the quality for ogg in sound-juicer?02:00
soundrayBladesonfire: give me a couple of minutes02:00
jgfigHELP!! "GRUB loading, please wait... Error 18" ???02:00
orbinLemino: isn't ogg variable?02:00
scheuri[arcane] : well, if you use testing or unstable they ship with that02:01
mattikooAgent_bob: I'm back. Now I hope we solve why my gdm will restart again and again02:01
[arcane] scheuri: i used teh mini disk02:01
orbinjgfig: ubuntuforums.org  there's heaps of threads on grub errors02:01
Bladesonfiresoundray: thanks for the help02:01
[arcane] scheuri: i dont mind xfree02:01
scheuri[arcane] : doe a "uname -r" in the console for me02:01
[arcane] just that i dunno what to use for my mouse atm02:01
[arcane] Linux arcane 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux02:01
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scheuri[arcane] : well, that sounds like sarge/stable....can't help you there, I am sorry02:02
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kbrooksONE DAY TO DAPPER02:02
[arcane] scheuri: lol damn ill get the sid one02:02
alphaBinyay!02:02
kbrooksTHREE CHEERS FOR UBUNTU:02:02
Leminoorbin: yes it is, but you can still set the quality. it ranges from -1 to 10 where 10 is the highest, about 400 kbit/s.02:02
kbrooksHIP, HIP, HOORAY02:02
kbrooksHIP, HIP, HOORAY02:02
[arcane] sid is the latest correct ??02:02
kbrooksHIP, HIP, HOORAY02:02
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scheuri[arcane] : well that wont solve the mouse problem though...;)02:02
petrik2 minutes into June 1st already where I am02:02
GhostwolfHi02:02
kbrooks[arcane] : no02:02
soundrayBladesonfire: have you ever hit Tab at the yaboot prompt and looked at the options there?02:02
scheuri[arcane] : attention...sid is unstable (but is always latest)02:02
kermitX_it's already 2am in the pacific.02:02
petrikTime to go to bed02:02
[arcane] scheuri: well ill use knoppix and copy the configs02:02
kbrooks[arcane] : sid is debian02:02
PlumTreehi ;-)02:02
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GhostwolfHow do I make kubuntu run from usb thumb drive?02:03
[arcane] kbrooks: uhh duh02:03
PlumTree'sudo apt-get install azureus02:03
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PlumTree' is this command enought to install azureus?02:03
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scheuri[arcane] : do understand how DEBIAN named theyre relases check wikipedia...that is important!!02:03
orbinpetrik, kermitX_ : iasked june 1st according to which timezone and ppl laughed at me :P02:03
Ghostwolfpetrik: buy me a copy of hl2e1 then02:03
Leminoorbin: do you know how to change it in sound-juicer?02:03
[arcane] scheuri: thanks yeha he names em after characters from toy story02:03
orbinLemino: no.  but i know grip lets you set a max bitrate02:03
xiceanyone know any good pagescrapers available for ubuntu02:03
scheuri[arcane] : I didt mean that actually...I was poiting out the stable/testing/unstable philosophie02:04
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scheuriphilosophy02:04
[arcane] scheuri: oo02:04
[arcane] lol02:04
kuwaitman80hi guys02:04
PlumTreeplease, help me. 'sudo apt-get install azureus02:04
PlumTree' is this command enough to install azureus in my terminal?02:04
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mattikoodid I must close gome sounds that I can to hear sounds from realplayer02:04
xicenope02:04
orbinkbrooks: hip hip hooray :)  how's your grub thing going?02:04
Leminoorbin: aha... well, I'll just continue my search then ;)02:04
alphaBinyes02:04
PlumTreesorry I repeat but I thoght nobody read me :P02:04
scheuri[arcane] : becuase your statement "sid is latest" ist not entirely correct and might be misleading and leading you into loads of troubles02:04
alphaBinit'll work02:04
tarzeauno irc.ubuntu.com ?02:05
orbinubotu: tell PlumTree about azureus02:05
soundrayBladesonfire: still here?02:05
kbrooksorbin: good so fr. just need to work on the grub parsing part (50% complete)02:05
PlumTreethanks ;)02:05
orbinkbrooks: righto02:05
jgfigYo can anyone help? I boot up after install and ths >> "GRUB loading, please wait... Error 18" ???02:05
avalostanyone having problems running update-flashplugin ?02:05
Ghostwolfdo I just "burn" the iso image to the usb thumbdrive?02:05
orbinjgfig: did you search the forum?02:05
kbrooksorbin: i need to ask #python later on :-)02:05
jgfigoh wounder02:05
avalostmine hangs and will not update at all..02:05
kuwaitman80anyone have a backdround on installing java jdk on ubuntu?02:05
Bladesonfiresoundray: yep02:05
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jgfigsorry i didnt notice my name changed02:05
jgfigdidnt know you were talking to me sorry :/ ill check them02:06
Bladesonfiresoundray: I hope you have some good news for me =D02:06
scheuriPlumTree: the debian package management allows to install on software and installing all needed software automatically...so yes, if azureus is the correct packagee name, that woule be sufficent02:06
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LukicI got Ubuntu 6.06 Live CD but it won't boot.How to set it?I tried XP instalation and it boots fine.02:06
PlumTreescheuri, thanks a lot. I do not understand it well, but I will try.02:06
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soundrayBladesonfire: have you ever hit Tab at the yaboot prompt and looked at the options there?02:06
PizbitLukic: Verify the downloaded file and/or burn the cd again at a slower speed.02:07
scheuriLukic: you dl live CD and burned it and you cannot boot from it? is that correct?02:07
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PlumTreeSo the first step is to download Azureus and the next one to write that command into my terminal?02:07
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BladesonfireI have not02:07
BladesonfireWill try that now02:07
scheuriLukic: pizbit is absoluetly correct...:)02:07
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scheuriI am too slow for IRC...;)02:07
LukicYes scheuri02:07
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scheuriLukic: and another bootable CD does work on the same machine?02:07
Pizbitscheuri: Happened to me earlier this week with the RC cd, reburnt at a slower speed and it worked, stupid free cds02:07
Bladesonfiresoundray: BTW, by editing the /etc/group file by hand, I completed fubar'd it... id >> uid=1000(dienn) gid=1000(dienn) groups=33(www-data),1000(dienn)02:08
Bladesonfiresoundray: And my file system is on hdc302:08
LukicYes02:08
scheuriPizbit: :)02:08
Klaidasis there a way to see how much bandwidth has been used on a specific port?02:08
soundrayPlumTree: no, it will download it automatically, if the repository is configured.02:08
scheuriLukic: then do as pizbit sugested...try burn it on a slower speed, if that doesnt work dl it again02:08
PizbitKlaidas: I only know of ntop, although that's a fair bit over the top.02:08
mattikoowhat sound system is un use in dapper?02:09
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mattikooon use02:09
LukicI burned it on a cdrw.Can that be a problem?02:09
scheuriPlumTree: the command in CLI (command line) to install azureus will do everythin which is needed...taken that everything is set up well02:09
LukicI'll try to burn it again02:09
scheuriLukic: I dont know...maybe...have you "terminated" the CD?02:09
jendaSeveas!02:10
LukicTerminated?02:10
Klaidashow about somewhere in the logs? is that information logged?02:10
PizbitLukic: 'finalised'02:10
scheuriLukic: sometimes burn programs allow that you can add more stuff to a cd or that you terminate it so you cant add anything again...02:10
Bladesonfiresoundray: Hitting tab only shows one option to boot =/02:10
scheuriPizbit: thousand thanks...:)02:10
PlumTreescheuri, thanks. I installed ubuntu yesterday and everything is  still a secret for me.02:10
scheuriPlumTree: welcome to ubuntu...:)...there are over 15'000 software packages avaiable online...azureus might be on if it02:11
PlumTreescheuri, it said the operation needed the admin priviligations.02:11
LukicI didn't terminated it.Should I do that?02:11
Leminoorbin: found the answer to my little quest; you have to specify the value with a decimal. so 6 becomes 0.6 and so on. the default in sound-juicer is 0.5, that is 5.02:11
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Bladesonfiresoundray: Hitting tab only shows one option to boot =/02:11
scheuriPlumTree: to find out try on the CLI "sudo aptitude search azureus" (or whatever)02:11
BladesonfireSorry02:11
scheuriPlumTree: that is true...02:12
soundrayBladesonfire: try booting the "expert" thing as before.02:12
Vic_AstroAfter succesfully installing VMware Server, when trying to run it i got these error messages: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d14905 Doesn't look like a vmware error, i'm sure i messed up somewhere else. Any ideas?02:12
PlumTreescheuri, ubuntu is very hard for me, a person who lived with windows and didnt know antyhing about existing linux ;P02:12
PlumTreescheuri, how can I get the admin priviligations?02:12
orbinLemino: where is this value?  i can't see anything in juicer's prefs02:12
scheuriPlumTree: do not worry...it will be hard at the beginning but get it easier very soon02:12
soundrayBladesonfire: mount the filesystem with 'sudo mount /dev/hdc3 /mnt', then revert your changes with 'sudo nano /mnt/etc/group'02:12
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LukicScheuri should I terminate it?02:13
scheuriPlumTree: your user already has actually...by adding sudo in front of commands you ask the system to make those commands run in administrative mode02:13
PlumTreeThat's my personal commputer so.. the only problem is how can I move me into administrator02:13
PizbitLukic: Worth a try, or use another cd etc02:13
scheuriLukic: I'd say so, yes02:13
tubbie!amarok02:13
PlumTreeok02:13
ubotuamarok is, like, a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/ - To install Amarok 1.4 on Ubuntu, see http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php02:13
LukicOk.Thanks a lot.I'll try that.02:14
scheuriPlumTree: so...the command to search the package for azureus would be "sudo aptitude search [nameofprogram] "02:14
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tubbieAmarok 1.4 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu Dapper.02:14
Leminoorbin: you have to edit the profiles. choose ogg (audio, not voice) and then in the end of the gstreamer-pipe you'll find the value to change.02:14
tubbiebut no package for ubuntu itself?02:14
scheuritubbie: thanks...02:14
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orbinLemino: ah i see.  thanks for the info02:14
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Bladesonfiresoundray: I'm getting an "invalid argument" error02:15
PlumTreeI am full of admire about you all who help so stupid people as me ;P02:15
scheuriPlumTree: we do that because we think it is worth it...:)02:16
michel99921kommt da was??02:16
Bladesonfiresoundray: there was no /mnt dir, so I just created /target, but apparently, the command doesn't like something02:16
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scheurimichel99921: ja...da kommt was02:16
PlumTree;-)02:16
nutterpcPlumTree,  not stupid...........technologically impaired02:16
PlumTreenutterpc, :P02:16
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Bladesonfiresoundray: "mount /dev/hdc3 /target" ... also tried "mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc3 /target" (btw, no need for sudo as in the shell, I'm already root)02:16
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PlumTreeMy friends say I am the first girl they know who has linux instead of windows.02:16
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scheuriPlumTree: see...girlpower!!!02:17
PlumTree:D02:17
nutterpcPlumTree,  my mum uses it02:17
PlumTreegirlubuntupower :P02:17
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HannibalPlumTree: by the time you're capable of helping people yourself (which will be soon enough at this rate) you'll learn soon enough that there's a vast difference between 'stupid' and 'technologically impaired' anyway.02:17
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nutterpcgood call Hannibal02:17
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PlumTreeI think it could be more understandable for me if it was in polish ;-)02:18
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scheuriPlumTree:  in here or ubuntu?02:18
soundrayBladesonfire: strange... is /dev/hdc3 listed when you run 'fdisk -l'?02:18
PlumTreemy english is not so good to understand everything in technicall language02:18
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PlumTreescheuri, in here.02:18
GhostwolfHow do I make kubuntu run from usb thumb drive?02:18
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scheuriPlumTree: ah, okay then...sorry...I cant speak polish...:)02:18
PlumTreescheuri, don't worry ;P02:18
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Bladesonfiresoundray: There's no fdisk command =/02:18
HannibalPlumTree: I'm saying you're not stupid. And that people who really are stupid are a lot harder to help.02:19
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BladesonfireThis mode is very ... helpful...02:19
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PlumTreeI understand everything in english which is spoken here02:19
soundrayBladesonfire: right, PPC... do you have pdisk?02:19
_CraneHello02:19
inetdanyone know howto save tab information in gnome-terminal?02:19
scheuriPlumTree: see...very good start...so....your problem is solved?02:19
HannibalPlumTree: *g* that alone qualifies you as not stupid anyway :)02:19
PlumTreebut not everything at all- (you know, I wouldn't understand also when it is polish :P)02:19
PlumTreeHannibal, nice ;-)02:19
PredatorHannibal vs Predator02:20
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PlumTreescheuri, I do not know whether my problem is solved02:20
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Hannibalwha? :)02:20
PlumTreesomething is being installed now still.02:20
JoetheoddHannibal vs Predator? Never heard of that? =p02:20
Bladesonfiresoundray: no pdisk either02:20
Hannibalnope.02:20
PlumTreewhere are you all grom?02:20
PlumTreefrom*02:20
scheuriPlumTree: ahh...okay...so you used that command and now your computer is doing something?02:20
scheurigrom?02:20
JoetheoddPlumTree: Wisconsin USA02:20
scheuriah02:20
PlumTreescheuri, yes :) so it is good because it is doing something at all :P02:21
Vic_AstroPlumTree, have you tried #ubuntu-pl ?02:21
scheuriPlumTree: Switzerland,...err...Europe...;)02:21
baboubuntu has no RCS ... ?02:21
scheuriPlumTree: ...;)02:21
JoetheoddPlumTree: The land of boats, cheese, and hodags.02:21
HannibalAmsterdam, Netherlands, Europe, Universe, ...02:21
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Hannibalhodags?02:21
V3roHI!02:21
scheuriHannibal: beg your padon...which univers?02:21
PlumTree:P Poland anyone?02:21
_CraneAlabama USA02:21
tubbiehello02:21
JoetheoddHannibal: urbandictionary.com02:21
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BladesonfireIs there a Knoppix-like distro that I can get a Live-CD for PPC?02:21
nutterpcAussie here :)02:21
PlumTreeVic_Astro, ubuntu-pl is a nice idea :P02:21
tubbiewhy aren't there new packages for amarok 1.4?02:21
Hannibalheh.02:21
Vic_AstroPlumTree, and it has 25 people or so in it ;)02:22
soundrayBladesonfire: there is a Ubuntu live CD for PPC02:22
scheuritubbie: for ubuntu? or kubuntu?02:22
tubbieUbuntu02:22
PlumTreethis network Vic_Astro ?02:22
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g-nomescheuri: you from CH too :-)02:22
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Vic_AstroYes, indeed, PlumTree02:22
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V3roI need change the hostname, but from terminal and Ubuntu Live CD... How Can I do it?02:22
scheuritubbie: because AFAIK only kbuntu offers new amarok packages on between releases02:22
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scheurig-nome: yes..:)02:22
PlumTree* Cannot join #ubuntu-pl (You are banned02:22
Bladesonfiresoundray: Maybe I'll just download that and see if it has a few more tools. I have the Kubuntu 5.10 cd, but it gives me the same options as this ubuntu dapper server image02:22
PlumTreehmm?02:22
scheuriPlumTree: uh...they are quite unfriendly02:23
Bladesonfiresoundray: thanks for your help =D02:23
g-nomescheui: german speaking of french or italian02:23
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scheurig-nome: german actually02:23
PlumTreeI have got IP who is owned by many people02:23
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scheuriPlumTree: ah...02:23
PlumTreeso I think somebody with my IP got banned02:23
tubbieanway to use my gtk2 themes with amarok?02:23
PlumTreeand in result I am banned also ;(02:23
tubbieany way*02:23
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g-nomescheuri: ok me too02:23
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scheurig-nome: well, does not surprise me..;)02:23
JoetheoddWell, time to go get dressed and survive the outside world.02:23
Joetheodd=/02:23
JoetheoddSchool. Last day before finals.02:24
PlumTreeJoetheodd, what time is there now ;P?02:24
_CraneGood luck02:24
g-nomescheuri: what that, if i may ask?02:24
HannibalJoetheodd: good luck.02:24
scheuritubbie: cant help you with that sorry02:24
JoetheoddPlumTree: 072402:24
g-nomePlumTree: are you using a proxy or TOR?02:24
PlumTreehere it is almost 3 p.m.02:24
PlumTreeg-nome, proxy.02:24
V3ro?02:24
PlumTreeAll day has been spent with ubuntu :P02:24
_CraneWow it's 7:30 am here02:24
scheurig-nome: well, most people live in german speaking part...:)02:24
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g-nomescheuri: scho :-)02:25
scheurig-nome: eb...;)02:25
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PlumTreenice, nice. I will come here more often, meet you and visit in the holidays time :P02:25
PlumTreetravelling over the world.02:26
scheuriPlumTree: is your compter still downloading?02:26
PlumTreescheuri, yes02:26
PlumTreej2re1.4 libcommons-cli-java liblog4j1.2-java libseda-java02:26
PlumTree  libswt-gtk-3.1-java libswt-gtk-3.1-jni02:26
PlumTreeit is installing java.02:26
scheuriuh...oky...02:26
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inetdi need to know a way to open tabs in gnome-terminal automatically02:26
scheurihmm...I am missing keys while writing...bad sign02:26
PlumTreescheuri, I am sure you are hungry.02:27
scheuriPlumTree: no, actually I am tired...:)....but food would be nice too02:27
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PlumTreescheuri, so go to the kitchen and cook something ;-)02:27
PlumTreefemale and male roles are mixed.02:27
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scheuriPlumTree: at university...in the middle of a lesson...;)02:27
PlumTreeI am a female and sit here and play with ubuntu02:27
PlumTree:P02:28
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PlumTreescheuri, middle of a lesson?02:28
scheuriPlumTree: yes...02:28
PlumTreedon't you learn there ;)?02:28
scheuriPlumTree: hardly...;)02:28
PlumTreeyou irc at the lesson, yes :)?02:28
Hannibalsounds familiar scheuri02:28
PlumTreeoh, you naughty student :P02:28
scheuriPlumTree: to help people like you...;)02:29
Hexidigital_PlumTree has me amazed... only the second female i've seen on here who ADMITTEDLY "plays with ubuntu"... i DO have faith in geeky girls :0)02:29
Hannibalonce IRC feels more productive than class, you know there's something wrong with the class :)02:29
mattikooI have errors in video codecs I can't see by totem's or xine's windows for media right. Image is too long. How can I fix codecs or plugins or something? I have installed all gstreamer-ugly etc. and w32 codecs. Must I install ubuntu again or how I fix these video problems?02:29
PlumTreescheuri, so that's your task in the university?02:29
spikebHexidigital_, heh02:29
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spikebHexidigital_, you haven't been paying attention then02:29
PlumTreeso what do you study?02:29
Hexidigital_spikeb:: why's that?02:29
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spikebHexidigital_, because the ubuntu geek girl community is fairly large02:30
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PlumTreeHannibal, sorry :P02:30
scheuriPlumTree: I study IT system managment...at least I trey02:30
scheuritry02:30
orbininetd: --tab-with-profile option?02:30
scheurimattikoo: have you installed vlc?02:30
PlumTreeI went to ubuntu offtopic.02:31
mattikooscheuri: yes02:31
scheurimattikoo: and what kind of image is too long?02:31
Rambo3ubuntu-offtopic is reserved for relgion and repbilicans bashing02:31
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PlumTreebut there nobody talks ;-)02:31
Hexidigital_spikeb:: i just need to find one who lives around my area... (but she's probably busy playing with ubuntu, so therefore the chances of collision are null)02:31
tubbieamarok can not retrief the lyric form lyrc.com.ar :(02:31
YogSothoththank you ompaul! Really great job, so smater like that :)02:31
mattikooscheuri: streaming video02:31
scheuriHannibal: you are right02:31
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YogSothothompaul: I reboot and see now02:31
spikebHexidigital_, she has her choice of just about any geek guy on the planet, if that is what she wants. good luck.02:31
PlumTreeeh, so I go to go and not disturb you with helping people ;-)02:31
PlumTreesee you next time02:31
Hexidigital_:)02:31
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tubbieunkown host02:31
scheurimattikoo: it doesnt play in vlc?02:31
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tubbiecan u set another source?02:31
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mattikooscheuri:scheuri: I haven't got plugin02:32
mattikoofor firefox02:32
Hexidigital_gotta run guys... have a great day everybody02:32
soundrayThanks Hexidigital_02:32
mattikooscheuri: sorry02:32
tanekhi, any ideas on how to get my system to recognize my usb hd?02:32
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scheurimattikoo: well...you surely do not need to reinstall ubuntu...but...I maybe not that much of a help02:33
Rambo3tanek: is hd formated, does it have partions/ tables02:33
soundraytanek: what makes you conclude it isn't being recognized?02:33
mattikooscheuri: how can I reinstall videoplayers and codecs?02:34
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mattikooand change settins02:34
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tanekits formatted, but doesnt turn up in /dev02:34
ImmoloHello does anyone know how to setup an ssh tunnel so I can remotly login to a box where the router doesn't allow forwarding02:34
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Rambo3tanek : mount /dev/sda1 ?02:34
soundraytanek: check if it shows in the output of 'lsusb'02:34
scheurimattikoo: If i recall correctly there is an option with apt-get and aptitude to reinstall02:34
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tanekRambo3: ye, thats where it doesnt show up...02:35
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mattikooscheuri: what is this magic ? :)02:35
DrNickRivierahow well can a ubuntu installation be moved from one computer to another02:35
scheurimattikoo: wish I knew...;)02:35
DrNickRivierain other words does it work ok to "change" the entire hardware without reinstalling02:35
Rambo3tanek: then naby its mounted under diffrent /dev/02:35
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Rambo3check lsusb02:35
tanekill check that02:36
taneksec02:36
soundrayDrNickRiviera: depending on how similar the two machines are, it may or may not work.02:36
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tanekyep, see it in lsusb02:36
soundrayDrNickRiviera: someone here reported earlier that they changed the mainboard without any hassle.02:36
tanekbut not as /dev/sda02:36
lsuactiafnerhow do limit the speed at which apt-get downloads?02:36
soundraytanek: good, then it's being recognized.02:36
DrNickRivieracould it mess the system up so that it doesn't work or runs much slower in the first computer afterwards?02:36
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scheurimattikoo: I dont think that is necessary actually....there are files out there you just cant play for some reasons...if you cant play it with vlc...then chances are small it works otherwise (my opinion)02:36
Rambo3sdb ?02:36
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tanekye, sorry for that mistell then. so how to mount :S?02:37
soundrayDrNickRiviera: unlikely. It'll either work fine or not at all.02:37
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taneknope, no sdx at all02:37
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Seantater_what makes selinux "security enhanced"?02:37
spikebthe se02:37
DrNickRivierawill just give it a try then, haven't got much to loose02:37
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tanekspikeb: nice answer :D02:37
soundraytanek: get a list of known partitions with 'fdisk -l' and determine the device name thus02:37
Seantater_spikeb: ah -- ha02:37
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TomaszDPlumTree, potrzebujesz pomocy podobno02:38
PlumTreeTomaszD, :) Polak!02:38
tanekfdisk -l doesnt give any output, soundray02:38
soundrayDrNickRiviera: it may be prudent to switch the video driver to something generic02:38
JoKoHi... I've just installed the server version of Dapper RC... How to update to the desktop version (GNOME)? It seems that ubuntu-desktop doesn't exist in Dapper...02:38
scheuriSeantater_: you better check google and wikis for that...too much to answer in here02:38
PlumTreetak, bardzo chetnie i to duzo pomocy w sumie02:38
mattikooscheuri: thank you :) I will try it. Now I must clean at home. ( order )02:38
PlumTreemoze przejdziemy na query02:38
soundraytanek: erm... sudo fdisk -l ?02:38
TomaszDPlumTree, > priv02:38
scheurimattikoo: easy...02:38
Seantater_scheuri: okay -- thanks anyway02:38
tanekah :$02:38
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lsuactiafnerhow do i tell dist-upgrade to overwrite old config files with new ones?02:39
TomaszDPlumTree, musisz zarejestrowa pseudonim, inaczej nie zadziaa02:39
tanekonly shows my /dev/hda02:39
BladesonfireJoKo: apt-cache search xubuntu-desktop ... I just want to know if you can see that02:39
TomaszDPlumTree, /msg nickserv register haso02:39
lsuactiafneri hacked at this system and i think a dist-upgrade wont work unless it overwrites and deletes as much as possible02:39
PlumTreeTomaszD, rejestrowalam jakis czas temu02:39
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soundraytanek: in a terminal, run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', then unplug your disk, wait a few seconds, then plug it in again and look for errors in the log.02:39
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TomaszDPlumTree, ale jeste uwierzytelniona? /msg nickserv identify haso02:40
JoKoBladesonfire, nothing appears...02:40
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TomaszDPlumTree, mam obiad, wrc za 10 minut02:40
PlumTreeit says I have incorrect password :/ I do not know why02:40
PlumTreeok02:40
phreak97is there a temporary internet files for firefox?02:40
phreak97under ubuntu?02:40
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taneksoundray: device descriptor read/64, error -11002:41
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BladesonfireJoKo: only thing I can think of is making sure your repos are correct (/etc/apt/sources.list), that you've run "sudo apt-get update", and that your internet connection is working02:41
tubbieany one got amarok 1.4 running?02:41
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Robbsterlo all. How can I install the MSFONTS package? which repository is it in? (if any?)02:41
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JoKophreak97, yes, in your FF's profile02:41
orbinphreak97: type about:cache in the url bar02:41
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JoKoBladesonfire, apt-get update seems to be working and so internet...02:42
taneksoundray: it doesnt show up in lsusb any more either02:42
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kermitX_!info msttcorefonts02:42
orbinRobbster: msttcorefonts is in multiverse02:42
ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB02:42
Robbsterorbin: thx02:42
orbinkermitX_: :P02:43
RobbsterkermitX_: thx. was missing th 'core' in the package name :)02:43
vinboyhi02:43
soundraytanek: are you plugging it into a hub?02:43
C_REATiVE_when i install ubuntu aside windows with grub then i cannot boot windows because it says hal.dll is not found. How can i fix this ?02:43
vinboyi'm just wondering what sort of cpu u guys running?02:43
taneksoundray: nope.02:43
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seigneur02:44
tanekvinboy: im running a AMD Turion 64 atm. why would u want to know that? :P02:44
Hobbseeseigneur: english only please02:44
soundraytanek: I have a flash stick that behaves like that occasionally. I have to plug it a few times until it's recognized.02:44
soundray!zh02:44
ubotuFor support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-cn02:44
soundray:)02:44
aLPHa_LeaKvinboy: i'm using a 933mhz p3 and a 1.25ghz g4 ;)02:44
seigneuroh,my god02:44
BladesonfireJoKo: Just make sure the line "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted" and "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted" is in your sources.list ... otherwise, I don't know what else to do02:45
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taneksoundray: ok, ill try to get it recognized in lsusb again then02:45
Vic_AstroAfter succesfully installing VMware Server, when trying to run it i got these error messages: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d14905 Doesn't look like a vmware error, i'm sure i messed up somewhere else. Running Ubuntu Dapper up-to-date. Any ideas?02:45
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TomaszDPlumTree, to mw tutaj, moe nas nie wyrzuc02:46
soundraytanek: it'll work eventually :)  -- off to lunch; l8r02:46
BladesonfireI did a server version install of server rc as well and was able to install xubuntu-desktop without any problems02:46
vinboyaLPHa_LeaK: ic.. i'm planning to get a p402:46
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ErenTurkayhi02:46
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PlumTreetomasz, moge zmienic nicka02:46
PlumTreealbo poczekaj02:46
tubbieomg, i want amarok 1.4 for Ubuntu02:46
PlumTreezainstaluje sobie kadu ;] 02:46
TomaszDI apologise everyone for speaking in Polish here, but we seem to have a technical problem with priv msg02:46
ErenTurkaydoes 6.06 version release ?02:46
aLPHa_LeaKvinboy: it's not a p4 but a g4...02:46
taneksoundray: thx for helping out02:46
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scheuriErenTurkay: not yet....02:47
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cynedoes linux support winmodems yet?02:47
ErenTurkayscheuri: when ?02:47
tubbiecycom, mine works02:47
PlumTreeok, I managed to get tu ubuntupl02:47
scheuriErenTurkay: In June...either tomorrow or a bit later...patience is your friend02:47
PlumTreeTomaszD, dziekuje za dobre checi- dostalam sie na ubuntu-pl i tam moze sie popytam ;-)02:47
cynetubbie, in ubuntu?02:47
ErenTurkayhuh..02:47
tubbieyea02:47
ErenTurkayi can not wait tomorrow i must download now :(02:47
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TomaszDPlumTree, te tam jestem02:47
ubuntuquelqu'un parle franais?02:47
tubbieworks out of the box02:47
Artefact2hi all02:47
cynetubbie, so no extra configuration was needed?02:47
thoreauputicPlumTree: english here, please :)02:47
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Artefact2i got a problem02:47
scheuriErenTurkay: then do so....just keep it upgraded!02:48
thoreauputic!fr02:48
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:48
PlumTreethoreauputic, off course ;-)02:48
tubbiecycom, I don't use it02:48
cynetubbie: nice02:48
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thoreauputicPlumTree: :)02:48
scheuriErenTurkay: but be aware until final release it needs to be considered RC02:48
tubbiebut I see it in the network interface list02:48
ErenTurkayscheuri: ok.. :(02:48
cynetubbie, i will rarely use mine but if it doesn't work i will have to use windows :(02:48
ubuntumerci02:48
Artefact2when I install Ubuntu, after the copy, it stays to 25%02:48
thoreauputicubuntu: pas de quoi :)02:49
ErenTurkaycan we dist upgrade 5 to 6 ?02:49
tubbiewhy use winmodem anyway02:49
thoreauputicErenTurkay: yes02:49
thoreauputic!upgrade02:49
ubotuupgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.02:49
scheuriErenTurkay: sure...02:49
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ErenTurkayok just i 'll download 5.x version of ubuntu and i'lll upgrade to 6.x02:49
JoKoBladesonfire, you were right... I was using outdated mirrors02:49
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thoreauputicErenTurkay: whynot dowload the release candidate ?02:50
scheuriErenTurkay: ...you may DL 6.x right now...it wont take long to be final...02:50
BladesonfireJoKo: Glad it works now =D02:50
scheuriErenTurkay: there wont be many things that change...02:50
thoreauputicErenTurkay: much closer to the final version02:50
scheuriErenTurkay: to go to 5.x first then 6.x is a bit too much right now I guess02:50
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ErenTurkayhmm..02:50
cynetubbie, because it is built into my laptop02:51
scheuriErenTurkay: unless you need an official final for legal issues or whatever02:51
thoreauputicErenTurkay:  cdimage.ubuntu.com02:51
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Dextorionhi, just did a apt-get dist-upgrade and it broke my nvida driver? I've tried to run the nvidia-installer script, just as before. But it wont work.  Anyone have a pointer for me, what im doing wrong?02:51
Artefact2when I install Ubuntu, it bugs02:51
ErenTurkayi said, i must download now, becouse my adsl limit is not full yet :))02:51
BladesonfireErenTurkay: I agree... I would just use 6.x02:51
cynehow can i tell if my winmodem is supported by ubuntu?02:51
HymnToLifeArtefact2> say "it hangs" instead :p02:52
Artefact2it copys packages and after, it stay to 25%02:52
scheuriDextorion: probably your kernel got updated...you probably need a new driver downloaded02:52
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HymnToLife!tell cyne about winmodem02:52
Dextorionscheuri: uname -r says the same as before. Its a kernel i compiled myself02:52
ErenTurkayhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/flight-7/ , is it right ??02:52
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cyneArtefact2, sounds like you have a corrupt burn or download... try downloading again and burning at a slower speed02:52
scheuriDextorion: oh, sorry...then I dont know...maybe so xorg-changes??02:52
BladesonfireErenTurkay: Try http://ubuntu.com/testing/02:53
Artefact2cyne, my MD5SUM matchs !02:53
Dextorionscheuri: it was xorg.. or desktop chnges anyways.  but.. i just cant find what to do.02:53
scheuriDextorion: I am afraid I cant help that much as I am not using binary drivers so far02:53
scheuriDextorion: did you check of update made a new xorg.conf??02:54
Dextorionscheuri: :) allrigty. Thanks anyways!02:54
scheuriof=if02:54
orbincyne: do you know what type of modem it is?02:54
Dextorionscheuri: yupp, it didnt.02:54
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scheuriDextorion: uuuhh...then I am really at my limits02:54
PlumTreebye ;-) see you next time.02:54
cyneorbin: checking02:54
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scheuriBye Plumtree02:54
ErenTurkayhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/  ok i think that's right :)02:54
Dextorionscheuri: and Nvidia script says it compiled and installed the driver correctly. but when i start x it says it cant find the module02:54
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Dextorionscheuri: just like xorg changed where it looks for modules in the update or something02:55
ErenTurkaydoes ubuntu have GUI installition tool ?02:55
ErenTurkayor text ?02:55
scheuriDextorion: did you reload your X?02:55
cyneorbin it's a Lucent/Agere SoftModem (SV92P, Scorpio)02:55
Dextorionscheuri: sure02:55
scheuriErenTurkay: both...02:55
BladesonfireErenTurkay: The RC does have a live install02:55
scheuriDextorion: complete reboot?02:55
DextorionErenTurkay: The live cd have some sort of gui install02:55
Dextorionscheuri: ya ;)02:55
Rambo3espersso02:56
orbincyne: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto02:56
scheuriDextorion: *sighs*...sorry then02:56
ErenTurkayoh.. i will install http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso , and i want to install on my harddisk..02:56
Dextorionscheuri: :) its okay mate. i'll figure something out.  Or someone will :D02:56
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scheuri:)02:56
orbincyne: lucky...seems like you can use a kernel module...search for lucent02:56
BladesonfireErenTurkay: Sounds like a good plan =D02:56
ErenTurkayif i can not install on hdd, i won't download this iso02:56
orbincyne: ....in that page02:57
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cyneorbin..nice i will check it out... my laptop arrives one day after dapper is released... gives me a day to download and then install :P02:57
thoreauputicErenTurkay: you can , if you have more than 192MB RAM02:57
BladesonfireErenTurkay: I JUST finished downloading that image (well, the ppc version), and I'm booting it now and I'll tell you if you can install ;)02:57
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thoreauputicErenTurkay: otherwise use the alternate ISO02:57
ErenTurkayi have got a 512 Mb ram02:57
thoreauputicErenTurkay: no problem then02:58
ErenTurkayBladesonfire: ok i'm waiting :)02:58
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ErenTurkayso.. i will download this iso ?02:58
BladesonfireMan, I didn't know I needed 192MB RAM =/02:58
scheuriErenTurkay: yes, you will02:58
Tomcat__ErenTurkay: Yes.02:58
thoreauputicErenTurkay: the desktop ISO is a live CD with an install function built in02:58
BladesonfireLooks like it's still booting, though02:58
ErenTurkayPC (Intel x86) desktop CD02:58
tarzeau11 hours for ubuntu 6.06 left?02:58
ErenTurkayhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso02:58
BladesonfireErenTurkay: Yes02:58
scheuritarzeau: maybe, maybe not...patience is your friend02:59
orbincyne: you're gonna d/load the iso via dialup? :-/02:59
ErenTurkayok so much thanks for helping02:59
ErenTurkaywget -c http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso02:59
ErenTurkay;))02:59
Artefact2the Dapper is stable ?02:59
thoreauputicErenTurkay: yes, if you have a PC and not amd64 or mac etc02:59
ErenTurkayx6402:59
ErenTurkaysorry02:59
ErenTurkayx86 :)02:59
scheuriArtefact2: not yet...patience is your friend02:59
Dextorionand it just broke my nvidia driver!!02:59
Dextorion:)02:59
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Artefact2scheuri, i will wait tomorrow02:59
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BladesonfireErenTurkay: I will confirm there is an install icon on the desktop ;)02:59
j2daosh!easysources02:59
ubotuj2daosh: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:59
scheuriArtefact2: well, maybe it is tomorrow, maybe it isnt02:59
ErenTurkayBladesonfire: ok now i'm downloading :)03:00
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BladesonfireBTW, does anyone use Xubuntu in here? I reaaaaaaallly like it03:00
Artefact2scheuri, i was said it is tomorrow...03:00
j2daosheasy source is where?03:00
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scheuriArtefact2: well, yes...that is true...but still...I dont mind if they need more time03:00
Rambo3!easyubuntu03:00
ubotu[easyubuntu]  an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.03:00
ErenTurkayi didn't use the gnome, i'll try it on ubuntu :)) only one couse :)03:00
Some_PersonWhat do I do with a .pl perl script?03:00
Artefact2scheuri, thanks for information03:01
scheuriArtefact2: dont tear them apart if they dont release tomorrow...;)03:01
emergentdudeHi. How do I upgrade from 4.10?03:01
j2daosh./scriptname03:01
orbinj2daosh: http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:01
scheuriemergentdude: step by step03:01
Vic_AstroSome_Person, perl script.pl03:01
BladesonfireIf you use KDE, there's always Kubuntu 6.06 RC (my weapon of choice)03:01
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Rambo3emergentdude: upgrade what03:01
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ErenTurkayBladesonfire: me ?03:01
emergentdudeis there some document that tells you how?03:01
scheuriErenTurkay: yes03:02
scheuriemergentdude: wiki.ubuntu.com might have something for you..03:02
LinuxJonesI guess the Dapper packages are frozen for final release ?03:02
BladesonfireErenTurkay: yes03:02
Artefact2LinuxJones, no, it isn't03:02
orbinemergentdude: i'm guessing the process is roughly the same as from breezy...not 100% sure though03:02
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spikebLinuxJones, yup03:03
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scheuriemergentdude: If I am not mistaken you need to upgrade to 5.04 first, then 5.10 then 6.0603:03
ErenTurkayi use pardus linux (it's new and turkish distro) and pardus hasn't got a gnome, we are working about gnome packages. and i 'll download ubuntu becouse default desktop is gnome. I think ubuntu uses the gnome as well as another distros ;))03:03
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spikeb!tell emergentdude about upgrade03:03
Some_PersonYAY! No more 14k limit on LINUXANT!!!03:03
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LinuxJonesspikeb, I knew it03:04
Some_Person(i had a perl script that gives license codes)03:04
ErenTurkayand and and :PPP03:04
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BladesonfireDang, Gnome is looking really nice these days03:06
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spikebyes it is03:06
scheuriBladesonfire: quite tempting, eh?03:06
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ErenTurkayIs gtk faster than qt ?03:07
andrejkwHey Guys03:07
ErenTurkaysomeone says: qt4 faster than qt3 %2503:07
andrejkwSomething is with my fonts. All fonts are bigger than usual.03:07
Bladesonfirescheuri: quite... might install it on my laptop =P03:07
HymnToLifeErenTurkay> with a strong enough comp, you won't see any difference03:07
scheuriBladesonfire: I usually have both installed anyway...:)03:07
tubbieomg, i want amarok 1.4 for Ubuntu03:07
andrejkwMainly menu fonts, an button and application fonts.03:07
Bladesonfiretubbie: I can't live without Amarok, either03:07
ErenTurkaytubbie: :))03:07
HymnToLifetubbie> it was released a while ago03:07
ErenTurkayHymnToLife: hmm..03:08
scheuritubbie...well...add the sources provided by kubuntu.org and isntall it...03:08
tubbieyea, but not for Ubuntu03:08
Bladesonfirescheuri: any problems when install ubuntu-desktop from a kubuntu install?03:08
HymnToLifetubbie> I'm pretty sure it was03:08
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tubbiecan I install kubuntu packages for Ubuntu?03:08
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scheuriBladesonfire: not as far as I know03:08
ErenTurkayubuntu uses debian packages ??03:08
spikebyeah tubbie03:08
HymnToLifetubbie> Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same thing03:08
scheuritubbie: it is the same distro....more or less...03:08
Bladesonfirescheuri: Another project on the horizon ;)03:08
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tubbiecool03:08
scheuriBladesonfire: ...;)03:08
tubbiegping to install it now :)03:08
andrejkwSo, can someone help me?03:09
LinuxJonesThe only thing that bothers me about Ubuntu is it's ugly-assed color-scheme.03:09
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spikebi just change it first thing LinuxJones03:09
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scheuriLinuxJones: happy that linux is about choice then...just change it...;)03:09
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ErenTurkayoohhh :(( i'm downloading 20 K :((03:09
Bladesonfireandrejkw: what distro are you using and where are all the fonts big?03:09
ErenTurkay5 hours :(03:09
LinuxJonesspikeb, I know but it's just not very professional about it and 95% of the people change it I'm sure03:10
scheuriErenTurkay: you can order a CD actually...and let it ship to you..03:10
manolishow can i install programms on ubuntu?03:10
Kamping_KaiserLinuxJones, why so sure?03:10
Kamping_Kaiserno one  i know has changed it03:10
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spikebLinuxJones, i thought the old brown bit was professional enough, but this new orange stuff heh03:10
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Bladesonfireandrejkw: oops, sorry, didn't see that last line... I think I saw a similar problem you're having on ubuntuforums.org03:10
scheurimanolis: by using adept, synaptic or the appropriate commands in the console...03:10
LinuxJonesKamping_Kaiser, look at it for one :)03:10
Kamping_KaiserLinuxJones, so? i like it03:10
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manolisHow can i install ndiswrapper-1.16???03:10
andrejkwI am using Gnome. Today I boot and find ut that all fonts are big, only text box, button, and application fonts. I tried checking the sizes in Font but they seem fine.03:11
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scheurimanolis: using the command line or graphical installert?03:11
Tomcat__andrejkw: Tried rebooting?03:11
andrejkwDesktop font is fine.03:11
manolisi will try...03:11
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andrejkwYes, I did.03:11
BladesonfireCan someone do "id" on a command line and tell me their output?03:12
andrejkwandrejkw Something is with my fonts. All fonts a03:12
andrejkwoops03:12
scheuriBladesonfire: I just did...what exactly do you want to know?03:12
ErenTurkayscheuri: oh.. i forgot that service :) but i live in turkey and i can't wait 2 weeks03:12
andrejkwuid=1000(andrejkw) gid=1000(andrejkw) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(andrejkw),1001(ntfs)03:12
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tiagoboldt hIRC 2.2 - don't be too amazed. there's more to come - codedb.org 03:12
scheuriErenTurkay: well...was just an option...:)03:13
Bladesonfirescheuri: Just copy/paste the first line, please03:13
tiagoboldt~ups03:13
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tubbiecan rhythmbox handle more than 10 thousands of mp3?03:13
YogSothothHi03:13
scheuriuid=1000(stefan) gid=1000(stefan) Gruppen=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(s03:13
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Bladesonfirescheuri: thanks... and odd... I'm getting an extra "groups=1000(bladesonfire)" after the gid03:13
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tiagoboldt Channel Topic (#ubuntu )  Official Ubuntu support channel | Dapper RC released! http://tinyurl.com/ehqdg Information and help in #ubuntu+1 | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ | Join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter | Help pages: wiki.ubuntu.com help.ubuntu.com03:14
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andrejkwMe too03:14
ErenTurkayscheuri: :)) financial support of ubuntu is very strong, which company or people supports ubuntu, do you know ?03:15
kermitX_mark.03:15
xcoolwho is chinese?03:15
scheuriErenTurkay: I recommend their homepage for answer to such questions03:15
orbintubbie: never had that many to try.  why? is it crashing?03:15
soundraytanek: how are you getting on?03:15
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tubbieorbin, just wondering..03:15
orbin!zh03:15
ubotuFor support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-cn03:15
ErenTurkayscheuri: ok thanks03:16
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xcoolthe chinese can't spell in it ! I am new leaner!03:16
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martinubuntu-mx03:16
taneksoundray: had a minor breakthrough03:16
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martin#ubuntu-mx03:17
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ErenTurkayscheuri: OK03:17
kermitX_tubbie: have, i think, 5-6k in rhythmbox at present. no problems so far.03:17
taneksoundray: got it to turn up in /dev now as sda03:17
soundraytanek: that sounds like the girl who got a bit pregnant03:17
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soundraytanek: how is it partitioned?03:17
taneksoundray: might be, she lost her baby when she tried to mount it tho :D03:18
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p_mashhi all :-)03:18
taneksoundray: just 1 big fat32 partition03:18
p_mashjust got Breezzy working .. its lovely lovely lovely ....03:18
soundraytanek: is there a partition table, or did you format the "raw" disk?03:18
martin#ubuntu-es03:18
p_mashquick question.. seems that its best not to use root at all in the setup etc.. so what is the passsword set to at install ?03:19
orbinp_mash: just got breezy?  where have you been? :)03:19
orbinubotu: tell p_mash about root03:19
taneksoundray: i tried to mount it and the terminal froze and after like 20ish seconds it failed03:19
taneksoundray: it was paritioned when i got it03:20
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scheuriubotu: tell scheuri about root03:21
heanolare there any problems with anything specific when running amd64 versions?03:21
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Ngheanol: the only problems you'll have are with things that only exist for the x86 version, such as java browser plugins, flash, multimedia codecs and so on03:22
scheurijbroome: thanks...;)...just wanted to know if that works..;)03:22
scheurijbroome: and it does actually...;)03:22
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jbroomescheuri: you can usually do !tell foo about bar03:22
heanolNg, ok.. trying to decide if i should try out amd64 for the first time.. or just stick with x86 as i've always done03:22
YogSothoth I just install Deskbar 2.14.1.1 for GNOME and the shortcut <Alt><f3> does not work. In fact I tried other shortcuts and none works to get focus on the deskbar. Why?03:22
soundraytanek: what did you use as the mount command?03:22
scheurijbroome: I just wondered why there was no response by ubotu...now I know03:23
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ompaul!test03:23
taneksoundray: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt03:23
ubotuFailed.03:23
Ngheanol: it depends what the system is for really. on a desktop I'm not convinced you gain anything by going to the amd64 version - most things are waiting for disk/user data, not the cpu03:24
jacquesmerdein the words of jazzy jeff and the fresh prince, "tick, tick, tick, tick, boom!"03:24
heanolyeah. desktop03:24
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heanolwhat's "alternate" ?03:26
heanol(compared to desktop or server)03:26
radiohey, how do I install the stuff I need to write simple C programs?03:26
Dr_Willis!b-e03:26
ubotuor if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.03:26
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radioI did sudo apt-get install gcc, but when I tried to compile a hello world prog it gave me "Couldn't find stdio.h"03:26
radioah, k03:27
scheuriradio: you probably want kdevelop03:27
radiothanks03:27
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radionah, I dont want that :P03:27
K|NgGh0sTWhat do I change in the sources.list to upgrade to drapper?03:27
gnomefreakradio: sudo apt-get install anjuta build-essential03:27
scheuriwell, that is an IDE...:)03:27
Dr_Willis!dapper03:27
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then03:27
Dr_Willis!update03:27
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dr_Willis03:27
Dr_WillisHmm..03:27
Dr_Willis!upgrade03:27
ubotuhmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.03:27
soundraytanek: have you tried 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt'?03:27
deus__what does RC means?03:27
scheuriDr_Willis: NO, it is still not released...:)03:27
scheurideus__: Release Candidate03:27
gnomefreakdeus__: release canidate03:28
deus__ah03:28
Dr_Willisscheuri:  i judt downloaded the RC last night. Im not too worried bout the release date. :P03:28
taneksoundray: yes, does the same thing03:28
taneksoundray: well, my time to go for lunch. cya later03:28
scheuriDr_Willis: well, it just looked like that...:)03:28
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Dr_WillisMy file server is still running like.. the OLD ubuntu. :)  warty? i think03:28
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K|NgGh0sTargh I'm not liking Ubuntu already03:30
Dr_WillisK|NgGh0sT:  sorry to hear that - i find it great03:31
skipdoes anybody here own a Tecra A6 or A7?03:31
K|NgGh0sTI like plain old debian03:31
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orbinK|NgGh0sT: what's irking you?03:31
K|NgGh0sTBut for some reason it will not install on my laptop, probally due to sata drivers03:31
Dr_WillisI dont see any real reason for me to perfer debian over ubuntu.03:31
scheuriK|NgGh0sT: I know what you mean...choice is everything...;)03:31
K|NgGh0sTNot being able just edit sources.list and get everything I want03:31
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K|NgGh0sThaving to type sudo everything sucks03:32
j2daoshanyone have a fix for that stupid easyubuntu script?03:32
gnomefreakK|NgGh0sT: sudo -i03:32
K|NgGh0sTIs there anyway to get superuser access?03:32
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spikebdebian is going the route of not allowing root login as well, i'd imagine03:32
spikebroot already can't log into X03:32
K|NgGh0sTaha03:32
scheuriK|NgGh0sT: sure...sudo passwd root and then you may log in as root03:32
spikebK|NgGh0sT, sudo -03:32
spikeber03:33
spikeb-i, that is03:33
Dr_Willissudo - ranting  is a trivial. thing.03:33
Hobbsee!tell K|NgGh0sT about sudo03:33
K|NgGh0sTNow, time to get rid of this awefull gnome03:33
j2daoshit botched my system and not i cant even do a apt-get install -f03:33
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j2daoshnow*03:33
j2daoshso where /what do i need to do to rebuild my system index?03:33
orbinK|NgGh0sT: easily changed....don't ditch a whole distro becase of something as trivial as those two things. :)03:33
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basvgdoes anyone know around what time Dapper will be released tomorrow? :-)03:33
gnomefreakj2daosh: get rid of it and do it yourself03:33
K|NgGh0sTorbin, Its all too windowish to me03:34
Dr_Willisbasvg:  when its done. :P03:34
j2daoshget rid of my system index?03:34
K|NgGh0sTI dunno, something just does not seem right03:34
gnomefreakbasvg: nope03:34
basvgDr_Willis: hehe, good answer :p03:34
K|NgGh0sTprobally will be better once I get into KDE03:34
basvgDr_Willis: eagerly awaiting it => this box needs a new OS :-)03:34
Dr_Willisgnome is too windowish but kde is better? :)03:34
orbinK|NgGh0sT: whatever floats your boat :)03:34
gnomefreakj2daosh: get rid of easyubuntu seeing as that messed up things?03:34
kermitX_kde just as 'window-ish' as gnome is...03:34
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K|NgGh0sTkermitX_, , I meant Ubuntu as a whole03:35
Dr_WillisReal Men use the Console. 0_o03:35
j2daoshi dont know where it installed to... and it doesn't have a "backout" option... it screwed up my sound card, my apt, and my xorg is acting funny03:35
tuxtheslacker!tell tuxtheslacker about ati03:35
kermitX_http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ not quite so window-ish ;)03:35
orbinK|NgGh0sT: as in...all my hardware works? :)03:35
Dr_Willisorbin:  i find my hardware works better under ubuntu03:35
K|NgGh0sTall my hardware always works in deb03:36
tuxtheslackercan someone send me the tell command for ATi drivers?03:36
K|NgGh0sTahahahaha03:36
K|NgGh0sTati and linux03:36
gnomefreakj2daosh: ask in #easyubuntu how to fix or getrid of it they would know03:36
K|NgGh0sTHave fun :D03:36
tuxtheslackerK|NgGh0sT, yeah... sucks for me.03:36
gnomefreakubotu tell tuxtheslacker -about ati03:36
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h3sp4wnK|NgGh0sT: just run debian sid (its not that unstable unless you are stupid) - plus it has a later version of kde03:36
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tuxtheslackergnomefreak, thanks!03:36
Dr_WillisI though you just said debian dident like your SATA03:36
gnomefreakyw03:36
K|NgGh0sTh3sp4wn, my other box runs Etch03:36
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K|NgGh0sTDr_Willis, That's the first issue I ever came across really03:37
K|NgGh0sTso I'm giving Ubuntu a try03:37
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K|NgGh0sTKDE 3.5 is nice03:37
kamilsiemka jest tu ktos z polski ?03:37
soundray!pl03:37
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl03:37
Ngas fascinating as peoples opinions of distros and drivers are, this is a support channel - if you're not asking or answering a question you're probably supposed to be in #ubuntu-offtopic03:38
scheurithanks, Ng03:38
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kamil#ubuntu-pl03:38
tuxtheslackergnomefreak, care to help me out with an apt-get problem?03:38
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tuxtheslackerhttp://pastebin.com/74896403:38
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j2daoshif i upgrade to dapper right now will that fix my crap? id assume a major kernel upgrade would have to write most of the system software... or are the changes minor enough that most of the system doesn't get touched?03:39
tuxtheslackerI'm having major problems with apt-get right now.03:40
spikebjust about everything gets touched j2daosh03:40
tuxtheslackerit's telling me it can't stat reps....03:40
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j2daoshme too... and its because of easyubuntu03:40
Ngtuxtheslacker: what happens if you do a sudo apt-get update?03:40
scheurituxtheslacker: do a aptitude update first03:40
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tuxtheslackerscheuri, where is that?03:40
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scheurituxtheslacker: on the console03:40
thomasHi03:40
j2daoshsudo apt-get install -f03:40
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kermitX_W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems03:40
assasukassehello everyone03:40
j2daoshor sudo apt-get update... either one03:40
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scheurituxtheslacker: on the console a "sudo aptitude update"03:41
tuxtheslackerjust did update :-)03:41
assasukassewhen will dapper will be released?03:41
p_mashso I need to use Synaptic to install applications.. however can't see php4 ?? is it available ?03:41
Dr_Williswhen its done03:41
j2daoshi thought it was already releasED....03:41
Dr_Willis:)03:41
Ngassasukasse: tomorrow03:41
scheurij2daosh: no it isnt...03:41
j2daoshHMM..03:41
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j2daoshthought it was supposed to be released in like april...03:41
orbinp_mash: enabled universe repository?03:41
tuxtheslackeroh okay, schweet.03:41
kermitX_p_mash: php4 is in universe.03:41
tuxtheslackerThanks guys!03:41
spikebj2daosh, got delayed03:42
thomasHow do I set up Enviorment variables in Ubuntu? I'm using 5.1003:42
j2daoshahh03:42
assasukasseNg i ordered some cd from shipit last week, why they said they already shipped to shipping company?03:42
Ngj2daosh: it was delayed to ensure it was good enough to be supported for 5 years (the server parts at least)03:42
tuxtheslackerwhat does sudo apt-get update do?03:42
j2daosh$var=value03:42
gnomefreaktuxtheslacker: updates your sources.list file03:42
thomasI tried a bash script but that does now work03:42
Ngassasukasse: possibly a mistake. the final images have only just been made (assuming no further showstopping bugs are found)03:42
Dr_Willisthomas:  you normally export variables from your .bashrc or .bash_profile  - depends on exactly What you are doing.03:42
orbintuxtheslacker: man apt-get03:42
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j2daoshthen echo $var to see what it became set to03:42
Ngtuxtheslacker: downloads the package listings from all of your configured repositories03:42
p_mashorbin, dont understand... universe ?03:42
kermitX_Ng: but the only thing they've changed lately is icons and openoffice. ;)03:42
scheuriubotu: tell tuxtheslacker about update03:42
assasukasseNg thanks, what time i can download it then? tomorrow morning?03:43
NgkermitX_: that's good, isn't it? we wouldn't want lots of churn right before the release03:43
soundraythomas: what do you want to set, and where&when do you want them to be available?03:43
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thomasDr_Willis, I tried that but it does not work.03:43
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Ngassasukasse: there is no time, it'll just be sometime tomorrow if no problems show up03:43
gnomefreakassasukasse: there is no time for release03:43
orbinp_mash: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:43
j2daoshso when is it supposed to come out then?03:43
kermitX_Ng: why not? usual release is immediately upon gnome release...03:43
franciscohello, how can I set gdm as default again?03:43
BladesonfireHooray, sudo privileges have returned =P03:43
soundrayfrancisco: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm'03:44
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brandon_so is that it then? with today's updates, do i have the full stable dapper?03:44
franciscothanks soundray!03:44
Dr_Willisthomas:  then you are doing it wrong. :P  you may want to read that 'Advanced bash guide' thats online.. export foo=bar  in the .bashrc is the normal way.03:44
assasukasseNg and gnomefreak thanks..may i ask a question about why i should choose ubuntu over kubuntu?03:44
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tuxtheslackerThanks everyone103:44
NgkermitX_: dapper is a little different because it's a long term support release03:44
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Ngassasukasse: personal preference03:44
gnomefreakkermitX_: cant release with the gnome release due to the delay and the LTS03:44
thomasI put the script at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14906.  Could you tell me what is wrong?03:44
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gnomefreak!abs03:45
ubotuabs is short for advanced bash scripting. it can be found in synaptic under abs or at http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/03:45
kermitX_might as well wait for the next gnome point release. was due a couple days ago.03:45
andrejkwI am using Gnome. Today I boot and find out that all fonts are big, only text box, button, and application fonts. I tried checking the sizes in Font but they seem fine.03:45
assasukasseNg one last question, i come from debian sid, i want to try ubuntu, and want to set up a webserver with it, which one should i choose?03:45
gnomefreak^^^ that might help thomas03:45
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andrejkwHow do I fix it?03:45
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soundraythomas: run '. scriptname' to activate the exports for the current shell.03:45
orbinandrejkw: is it possible your screen res. changed?03:45
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ichdasichhi.03:45
andrejkworbin: no03:46
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soundraythomas: paste the script contents into $HOME/.bashrc to make the exports available from the next login.03:46
peng_who can tell me where to find the resouce in Germany03:46
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orbinbrandon_: you need to run the update manager when they relase stable...it's not out yet03:46
thomassoundray, Thanks03:46
soundraypeng_: what resource? #ubuntu-de ?03:46
ichdasichim new to ubuntu and want to setup ubuntu on a machine without an internetconnection. how can i use and install the languagespecific packages?03:46
peng_\\soundary yes03:46
peng_yes03:46
thomasI was under the impression that it was ./scriptname03:47
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peng_i am in Germany03:47
andrejkwanyone, please?03:47
brandon_orbin: all of the updates today were artwork and crap like that, plus it's scheduled for tomorrow, so i figured...03:47
peng_i mean the resouce list ,where i can get skype03:47
soundraythomas: that requires that you make your script executable with chmod 755 scriptname or similar.03:47
gnomefreakthomas: did you chmod x+a script03:47
Dr_Willisthomas:  you are only seeing part of the big picture. as to how scripts work.03:47
gnomefreakubotu tell thomas -about abs03:48
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gnomefreakthat really is a good guide03:48
orbinichdasich: download them on a computer with a 'ne tconnection and then copy them over and install them03:48
Dr_Willisthat ABS guide is a MUST read. :P and save it and reread it a week later.03:48
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Dr_Willisthen reread it again every month.03:48
ichdasichorbin: download from where?03:48
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thomasI have a copy03:48
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orbinichdasich: the repositories...03:49
scheuri!tell abs03:49
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scheuri!tell about abs03:49
scheuriarrrrrr$03:49
Dr_WillisI got a copy of the ABS guide html version on my PlayStationPortable :P03:49
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gnomefreakubotu tell scheuri about abs03:49
ichdasichorbin: how could i do this, if id dont have a running ubuntu box?03:49
orbinubotu: tell scheuri about yourself03:49
scheurithanks03:49
thomasJust a sec guys.  Let me try it out.03:49
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kermitX_new look to front page of http://www.ubuntu.com/03:50
scheurignomefreak: orbin thanks03:50
siccnessYeah, looks nice kermitX_.03:50
orbinichdasich: you don't need really need one.  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/03:50
kermitX_siccness: cept for the missing 6.06 dl links. ;)03:50
ichdasichorbin: ah, thx03:50
siccnessSo true :)03:51
orbinichdasich: all apt-get does is grab the pacjkages form there anyway03:51
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orbinichdasich: d/load the ones you need then install with: sudo dpkg -i <package>03:51
queuetueHi.  If I type ifconfig, I see a very odd ip showing for eth0 - 169.254.190.111 ... The ip is *actually* 192.168.2.12 - as evidenced by the fact that I can ssh into it and ping it just fine.  Can ifconfig report the wrong address?03:52
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orbinafter you copy them over that is03:52
andrejkwI am using Gnome. Today I boot and find out that all fonts are big, only text box, button, and application fonts. I tried checking the sizes in Font but they seem fine.03:52
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ichdasichorbin: told u that i dont have a ubuntubox here ;-)03:52
bit_doidaohi there! those anyony know were to download the ubuntu photo in a resolution for printing purposes? We are organizing an event, and planning to make some graphic materials! Thank You!03:53
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ichdasichorbin: but thx ;-)03:53
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orbinichdasich: huh?  [1]  grab the packages from that url using any computer w/ a net connection and a web browser. [2]  copy the deb files onto a cd [3]  insert the cd into your friends connection-less computer [4]  copy the files onto said computer [5]  dpkg -i the deb files03:54
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ichdasichorbin: ah, thougt the sudocommand ment the way to download em.03:55
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l_rhello03:55
l_rubuntu 6.06 - stable is out!!!!03:55
orbinichdasich: no, that's how he'll install them on his computer03:55
Goshawkl_r: where is the announce?03:55
ichdasichyes, thx.03:55
Goshawkl_r: where did you get that information?03:56
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l_rGoshawk, it's top secret. the fact has not been announced yet..03:56
Goshawkl_r: torret to download from?03:56
Goshawktorrent03:57
Bladesonfireandrejkw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=913730&postcount=403:57
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l_ri can't give it, sorry. i am only allowed to say "people, it is out!"03:57
l_r:)03:57
Bladesonfireandrejkw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=914325&postcount=5 <-- possibly that one, too03:58
cefl_r: any idea how long till it hits mirrors, etc?03:58
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l_rcef, some hours :)03:58
zenlinuxNHl_r: Now there's a challenge if I ever heard one. :)03:58
l_rheh03:58
babo[user@achilles ~] $ su - root03:59
babosu: incorrect password03:59
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Goshawkl_r: who are you to say" people i know that it's out"?03:59
babodoes anyone have an explanation for the above behaviour ?03:59
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l_ri am one of the powers :)03:59
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bit_doidaobabo, ubuntu, by default, have the root account with no password04:00
Ng!tell babo about root04:00
_CraneG o o D M o r n i n g04:00
l_ri am root :P04:01
bit_doidaoyou can set a password for root, and use it, or even use the sudo for run commands as root :)04:01
Ngl_r: this is a support channel, if you're not going to contribute something useful or ask a question, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic04:01
l_rNg, pardon04:01
l_r:)04:01
andrejkwBladesonfire: nope04:02
andrejkwBladesonfire: if I lower DPI everything else becoems screwed u04:02
andrejkwBladesonfire: and it used to be fine on this DPI04:02
Bladesonfireandrejkw: what did you change before the fonts went huge?04:03
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Fator_Deecan I ask for help in here in upgrading from breezy to dapper?04:03
andrejkwBladesonfire: hmm, I installed KDE, but it's removed now04:03
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QPAD|warlockthis is starting to annoy me, Im trying to run a script (auto install) and it cannot install because for -some- reason it wont create the dirs by automatic04:04
QPAD|warlockInstalling files for cPanel frontend..04:04
QPAD|warlocktar: /usr/local/cpanel/base/frontend/x: Cannot chdir: No such file or directory04:04
QPAD|warlockAn example04:04
QPAD|warlockWhy doesnt it create it by itself ?04:04
andrejkwAre you running it as sudo?04:04
Bladesonfireandrejkw: So what's big and what isn't?04:04
QPAD|warlockno Anderson04:04
QPAD|warlockno andrejkw *04:04
QPAD|warlockdoesnt matter, doesnt work with sudo eaither04:05
QPAD|warlockCreating command line save directory..04:05
QPAD|warlockmkdir: cannot create directory `/var/cpanel/gameserv_saved/': No such file or directory04:05
andrejkwBladesonfire: Well textbox fonts are bigger than usual, also the fonts on the buttons, menu fonts, and menu labels, also the Gnome Menu has bigger fonts.04:05
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andrejkwEverything else is fine, desktop fonts are fine, it justr seems to be that every GTK app has bigger fonts.04:05
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BladesonfireQPAD|warlock: try running mkdir with the -p option04:06
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onkarshinde@now utc04:06
UbugtuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: May 31 2006, 14:06:2704:06
zerbyhi chris_04:06
noodlefor once in my linux life i am actually quite happy with fonts.. well the way dapper renders it04:06
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QPAD|warlockBladesonfire, huh ?04:07
andrejkwSo... can anyone help me solve this annoying problem?04:07
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Bladesonfireandrejkw: sorry, I'm a Kubuntu user =/ ... forums are probably your best bet04:08
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onkarshindeandrejkw: what is problem?04:08
BladesonfireQPAD|warlock: sudo mkdir -p /var/cpanel/gameserv_saved/04:08
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p_mashok am missing the point here probably.. how do I chmod +777 /var/www ?? (local Dev machine) .. tried sudo chmod etc and not work04:08
kahuunadapper drake release party! :D04:09
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andrejkwHere's a screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png04:09
onkarshindep_mash: why do you need 777? Any specific purpose?04:09
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andrejkwMost of the fonts are extremly big.04:10
p_mashyes .. need to copy a bunch of files in there (this is my local dev machine) with scripts etc...04:10
QPAD|warlockBladesonfire, so im supposed to make all the folders that's didnt get created?04:10
QPAD|warlockI dont even know all of the folders.04:10
KenSentMeDoes anyone here play Second Life on Ubuntu?04:10
QPAD|warlockShouldn't these be automatically created?04:10
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p_mashonkarshinde, some shell scripts and php (migrating stuff from suse!04:10
noodleandrejkw: have you tried 9?04:11
BladesonfireQPAD|warlock: parent folders are only created with the -p option04:11
fholmesHello, can anyone help me with Bind on Breezy Badger?  Only my last A record is resolving, none of the other A records in my list are resolving.04:11
andrejkwYes, it makes no difference04:11
ansteip_mash: sudo chmod 0777 /var/www04:11
BladesonfireQPAD|warlock: (if they don't already exist)04:11
onkarshindep_mash: remove +. Only 777 is needed.04:12
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andrejkwPlease... anyone? This is driving me nuts :'(04:12
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p_mashonkarshinde, cool that worked ...04:13
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tuxtheslackerIt seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. Run 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html#xv! see 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. try -vo x1104:13
QPAD|warlockBladesonfire, what im saying is: I ran a script, and it's cPanel, and it's supposed to make its own dirs and add the files in the dirs it created, and not that im supposed to make the dirs manually and THEN run the install script.04:13
tuxtheslackerwhat is that talking about in mplayer?04:13
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BladesonfireMan, I lost my sudo rights again ... damn this machine04:14
p_mashonkarshinde, whats the best way to tavkle next problem.. what I do is create a "user" for each web project so they appear at http://localhost/~foo (50+ to migrate from suse)..  ??04:14
BladesonfireQPAD|warlock: I would ask the script creators about how the script works04:14
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QPAD|warlockthat's not the thing, this happends to all scripts i try to auto install04:15
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QPAD|warlockby sudo ./install or something04:15
tuxtheslackercan someone help me out with an mplayer config?04:15
tuxtheslackermine is apparently botched.04:15
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BladesonfireQPAD|warlock: Hmmmmm, don't know what the problem could be, then04:15
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p_mashso I cant login as root ;-( ...04:16
andrejkwQPAD|warlock: sed -e 's/wget/wget -p/g' script.sh04:16
SwadI am looking for someone who has a fairly good grasp on linux routing who might be able to help me setup the proper route for a host-only VMware config on Ubuntu.04:16
tuxtheslackerIt seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. Run 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html#xv! see 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. try -vo x1104:17
andrejkwoops04:17
tuxtheslackergnomefreak, do you have any ideas?04:17
andrejkwi meant04:17
andrejkwQPAD|warlock: sed -e 's/mkdir/mkdir -p/g' script.sh04:17
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andrejkwSo, can someone help me with my font problem? :'(04:18
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tuxtheslackercan someone help me out with that error on mplayer?04:19
gnomefreaktuxtheslacker: no not really sure what you are trying to do04:19
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tuxtheslackergnomefreak, I'm trying to play a video in gmplayer.04:19
tuxtheslackerand it spits out this error: It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. Run 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html#xv! see 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. try -vo x1104:19
tuxtheslackerand it runs the video in a VERY choppy manner.04:20
gnomefreaktuxtheslacker: did you install all the dvd/flash/or whatever your trying to play codecs?04:20
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gnomefreakubotu tell tuxtheslacker -about restricted04:20
tuxtheslackergnomefreak, I installed codecs.04:20
gnomefreaktuxtheslacker: that site tells you what to do about choppiness04:20
renatofilhohi guys, i need a url for apt with gstreamer-10 for ubuntu breeze. can someone pass me a link?04:20
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gnomefreakrenatofilho: its not in breezy04:20
tuxtheslackergnomefreak, I've choppy video, not audio.04:21
gnomefreakrenatofilho: you can try to get it from packages.ubuntu.com but im not real sure its a good idea04:21
tuxtheslackerunless it's breaking to keep sync with audio?04:21
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gnomefreaktuxtheslacker: i know and its there04:21
Storkwhat's the best html/css/php editor you know of?04:21
QPAD|warlockandrejkw, what is that ?04:21
tuxtheslackergnomefreak, yeah, that's what i'm reading :-D04:21
tuxtheslackerstocksy, gedit.04:21
Storkgedit sucks04:22
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tuxtheslackerStork, I like it...04:22
BladesonfireStork: Quanta ;)04:22
gnomefreakStork: nvu or bluefish04:22
Storknvu?04:22
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gnomefreaknvu is like dreamweaver in a sense04:22
QPAD|warlockandrejkw, The script im trying to run is "install" (sudo ./install) - how do i fix so it can create dirs etc?04:22
tuxtheslackercan someone tell me how big the w32codecs are?04:23
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kermitX_tuxtheslacker: about 10mb.04:24
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tuxtheslackergnomefreak, I installed the win32 codecs.04:26
tuxtheslackerGnomefreak: it appears that the fix they talk about is for xine.04:26
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gnomefreaktuxtheslacker: xine engine is normally better than gstreamer IMHO04:27
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gnomefreaktuxtheslacker: iirc w32codecs are in mplayer by default04:27
tuxtheslackergnomefreak, will I still use mplayer?04:27
andrejkwQPAD|warlock: sed -e 's/mkdir/mkdir -p/g' ./install04:27
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Goshawkis there a way to export all the mails of evolution?04:28
spikebno they are not in mplayer by default04:28
tuxtheslackergnomefreak, do i need to do anything to point them to mplayer?04:28
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andrejkwQPAD|warlock: and then run it again04:28
gnomefreaktuxtheslacker: i dont think mplayer has an xine engine04:28
tuxtheslackergnomefreak, totem-xine doesn't break the the playback....04:29
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lcan someone tell me why i am etting this error? l@irregularity:~$ cd /var/log/mpd04:29
lbash: cd: /var/log/mpd: Permission denied04:29
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QPAD|warlockhuh, how can you nick "l"? :)04:30
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gnomefreakl: use sudo04:30
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Goshawkl: sudo cd /var/log/mpd04:30
andrejkwQPAD|warlock: did it work?04:30
QPAD|warlockyeah, kinda..04:31
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QPAD|warlockould you like to add a monitoring script to /etc/crontab to ensure cPGSD is running ? (y/n) y04:31
QPAD|warlockchmod: cannot access `/var/cpanel/cpgs.pem': No such file or directory04:31
QPAD|warlock:E04:31
andrejkware you using sudo?04:31
Goshawkhow to export everything in evolution?04:31
QPAD|warlockyes04:31
QPAD|warlockThis is all bugged up, still missing lots of catalogs..04:32
QPAD|warlockwhat does "mkdir -p /dir/dir" do ? Does it create that dir, or ?04:32
andrejkwif 1st dir is missing, it creates it04:32
andrejkwotherwise it would fail04:32
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QPAD|warlockum04:33
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CelestarI heard that ubuntu works on T1?04:33
QPAD|warlockwell, i think it works now04:33
QPAD|warlockone second04:33
trappist-p also won't throw an error if the directory you're creating already exists04:33
QPAD|warlockah ok04:33
trappistall this is in the man page04:33
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tuxtheslackergnomefreak, thanks!04:34
tuxtheslackernow, how do I get the totem plugin installed again?04:34
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mendredhi has anyone succeeded in installing rox-desktop04:34
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curupturahi channel04:35
curupturaiam havin a problem04:35
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Storkhave a cookie.04:35
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aluno.04:35
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curupturai want to capture videos on kino04:35
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curupturai ahev that philips lifeview card04:35
QPAD|warlockandrejkw, so if i want to create a dir i do mkdir -p /var/bla ?04:35
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curupturai dont know how to install it04:35
QPAD|warlockbecause im still getting errors..04:35
blakcheezhow do I use RAR for Linux to open a .rar file?04:35
QPAD|warlockpissing me off, (cannot create dir blab la )04:35
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mweblakcheez: use unrar04:36
NoUse!tell blakcheez about rar04:36
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zerbyhi chris_04:38
tuxtheslackerhow do I get firefox to use the totem-xine plugin instead of the mplayer one?04:38
onkarshindetuxtheslacker: totem-xine plugin is not good enough. At least in breezy.04:39
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onkarshindetuxtheslacker: you can remove mozilla-mplayer if you want to use totem-xine plugin04:39
blakcheezmwe: which one do I download for Ubuntu?04:39
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andrejkwSo, what about my font problem?\04:39
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tuxtheslackeronkarshinde,  this thing appears to run a little bit better than the mozilla plugin, in that it will run this video without making it REALLY choppy.04:40
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blakcheezso which unrar do I download?04:41
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jameygDoes anyone know the CMS being used on ubuntu.com?04:42
andrejkwEverything else is fine, desktop fonts are fine, it justr seems to be that every GTK app has bigger fonts.04:42
sdrac8is there a way to run two programs simultaneously in a terminal so that the output from one is the input to the other?04:42
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andrejkwHere's a screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png04:42
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onkarshindejameyg: I guess it is MoinWiki04:43
onkarshindenot sure though04:43
tuxtheslackerokay, I uninstall totem-xine-firefox-plugin a while ago, and now it looks like it requires the totem plugin.04:43
blakcheezhow do I open .rar programs on Ubuntu?04:43
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chavoandrejkw, did you install kde?04:44
assasukassewhat is the difference between desktop and server edition?04:44
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Linuturk_NBserver edition installs without a gui04:44
chavoassasukasse, the server doesn't install X or any desktop04:44
Linuturk_NBchavo, they use the same kernel though?04:44
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kermitX_actual server iso will have a server-optimized kernel04:45
Linuturk_NBah, figured04:45
assasukassekermitX_ what does it means04:45
andrejkwchavo: yes04:45
Linuturk_NBit means it runs better as a server04:45
Ngsdrac8: prog1 | prog204:45
andrejkwchavo: but removed it now04:45
onkarshindeLinuturk_NB: Same kernel but tweaked differently for server use04:45
Ngsdrac8: they'r enot run exactly simultaneously though04:45
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shannonwill the fglrx driver work with "VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)" (from lspci)/04:45
alnrhow can i see what files were installed by a package, is there a manifest file per package somehwere04:45
andrejkwchavo: so how can I fix it?04:45
rysiek|plhi there, guys04:45
assasukasseuhm...i need to install a webserver that is also a desktop, should i go for server then?04:46
jameygonkarshinde, ahh I found references to MoinWiki in some of the files04:46
Linuturk_NBwould you recommend XFCE for a server gui? if so, what is the easiest way to install that, along with controls for a LAMP server?04:46
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jameygonkarshinde, sorry MoinMoin04:46
tuxtheslackeris v4l loaded by default in breezy btw?04:46
chavoandrejkw, ok open up your ~/.bashrc and remove this line -> export GTK2_RC_FILES=$HOME/.gtkrc-2.004:46
_CraneWow crazy traffic here04:46
sdrac8Ng: but does that go both ways?04:46
visik7Linuturk_NB:  server ? gui? in the same sentence ?04:46
rysiek|planybody knows, what should I add to ~/.gtkrc-2.0 so to change the tooltip-text color globally? (I have a white font set as a system font, and tootlips have this light background, so I can actually see... yeah, you know ;) )04:47
Ngsdrac8: no04:47
onkarshindeLinuturk_NB: Easiest way to install xfce is 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'04:47
Ngsdrac8: the output of prog1 would be "piped" into the input of prog204:47
chavoLinuturk_NB, just apt-get install xubuntu-desktop for xfce, it'll install x and everythig esle you need04:47
distanceisdeathXMMS won't play any music because there is something wrong with the sound card, how do i fix this?04:47
tuxtheslackeranyone know if v4l is loaded into by default in breezy badger?04:48
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sdrac8Ng: that's what I thought, so is there a way to make it go both directions?04:48
tuxtheslackerif not, that would explain my video camera crashing.04:48
Ngsdrac8: not as far as I know04:48
rysiek|pldistanceisdeath: what's the error msg?04:48
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visik7tuxtheslacker: I haven't breezy no more04:48
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tuxtheslackeranyone know?04:48
distanceisdeathrysiekpl: Lemme find it,04:48
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tuxtheslackervisik7, how woudl you check to see if it's laoded now?04:49
visik7btw breezy is 2 steps behind dapper04:49
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visik7lsmod04:49
tuxtheslackerokay, is there a way to search through the mods?04:49
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distanceisdeathrysiekpl: It's no longer giving me any error messages.  But all it does is skip through the whole playlist.04:50
visik7tuxtheslacker: loaded or all the available ?04:50
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tuxtheslackerviski7 both?04:50
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visik7tuxtheslacker: grep04:50
Ngsdrac8: why would you want to do that anyway?04:50
visik7:)04:50
visik7lsmod |grep <pattern>04:50
tuxtheslackervisik7, I need to see if v4l is available to load, and I need to see if it is already or not.04:50
visik7and04:50
Some_PersonHi04:50
visik7modprobe -l |grep <pattern>04:50
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blakcheezneed help setting up a rar program04:51
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BladesonfireHow come xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop can't be installed together?04:51
rysiek|pldistanceisdeath: well, that means it can't locate the files on this playlist. either those files are not on your disk anymore, or they are on a different location, or the permissions aren't set correctly04:51
andrejkwchavo: that didn't fix it04:51
kermitX_bladesonfire: they can be.04:51
Ng!tell blakcheez about rar04:51
tuxtheslackerokay, it's not there... how would I look to see if the module is available?04:51
Some_PersonIs there an MSN Messenger for Ubuntu?04:51
andrejkwchavo: my fonts are still big :'(04:51
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andrejkwSome_person: aMSN04:51
NgSome_Person: gaim or amsn would be your best bets I suspect04:51
visik7tuxtheslacker: modprobe -l |grep <pattern>04:51
distanceisdeathOkay.04:51
distanceisdeathLemme try a new song.04:51
sdrac8Ng: I have a model train network that relies on a program to control the hardware which takes information from the decision software. In turn, the hardware software tells the decision stuff where the train is.04:51
kermitX_bladesonfire: my most recent install was off a (gn)ubuntu rc alt install cd, then i added 'xubuntu-desktop' with no conflicts.04:51
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BladesonfirekermitX_: when I tried "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop", I got errors, but individual, I could install them04:52
rysiek|pldistanceisdeath: try: alsaplay <path_to_song> -> this plays a sound file from within console04:52
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Ngsdrac8: that sounds like they should really be communicating with IPC, so unix sockets or fifos or something like that04:52
distanceisdeathWait, I got the error message.04:52
rysiek|pldistanceisdeath: this way you can check if the user you are running has the correct perms04:52
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rysiek|pldistanceisdeath: which is?..04:52
kermitX_bladesonfire: do it in aptitude and see what the conflicts are..04:52
BladesonfirekermitX_: did you also install ubuntu-desktop on that install?04:52
BladesonfirekermitX_: will do04:52
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kermitX_bladesonfire: the ubuntu-desktop package was the default install for the cd i used, then i added xubuntu to it.04:53
tuxtheslackerwill insmod load the module permanently?04:53
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distanceisdeathPlease check that: Your soundcard is configured properly.  You have the correct output plugin selected.  No other program is blocking the soundcard.04:53
tuxtheslackerviski ^^04:53
tuxtheslackervisik7, ^^04:53
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visik7no04:54
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tuxtheslackervisik7, how do I load the module permanently?04:54
blakcheezi'm still have trouble with locales04:54
Some_PersonHow can I use MSN Messenger in Ubuntu?04:54
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visik7hotplug should load the module automatically when the card is detected04:54
mweSome_Person: gaim04:54
blakcheez"Errors were encountered while processing:04:54
blakcheez   locales04:54
Some_PersonI mean a full-featured MSN-Only client04:54
BladesonfirekermitX_: I didn't thinkt he alt cd had a *-desktop on it, but I must have been thinking of the server ... anyway, i already installed ubuntu-, and now I can install xubuntu- just fine... so... nvm ;)04:54
tuxtheslackerhow do I load modules permanetly?04:54
NgSome_Person: install amsn04:54
NgSome_Person: it should be in synaptic04:55
blakcheezE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code04:55
visik7Some_Person: amsn04:55
tuxtheslackerSome_Person, kopete has video too.04:55
mweSome_Person: or use wine04:55
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kermitX_bladesonfire: "alternate" cd is the old text-mode installer.04:55
Some_PersonWINE can't run MSN Messenger04:55
Booohow stable is dapper now?04:55
mweSome_Person: it doesn't work with the latest msn messenger though04:55
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Some_Personwich does it work with?04:55
mweSome_Person: it can. but not the latest04:55
tuxtheslackercan someone tell me the command to add a module permanently if insmod won't do it.04:55
kermitX_Booo: better be pretty darn stable by now.. ;)04:55
yohohois this site working?  http://scottbucking.ca04:55
BladesonfirekermitX_: ic =D04:55
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rysiek|pldistanceisdeath: well then, do what the message tells you: right click on XMMS -> Preferences, find Output Plugins04:56
mweSome_Person: I don't remember. you can't expect all windows software to work with linux04:56
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Some_Persontrue04:56
Booohas anyone tried dapper on a powerbook G404:56
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kermitX_Booo: try asking in #ubuntu+104:56
rysiek|pldistanceisdeath: (I don't quite remember where that is exactly, but it's not hidden. really)04:56
MisterNhi04:56
rysiek|pldistanceisdeath: and check, what Output Plugin you have selected04:56
distanceisdeathThank you, sir.04:56
NgSome_Person: try amsn before faffing about with wine04:56
distanceisdeathALSA wasn't set.04:56
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mweamsn sucks bad IMHO04:57
distanceisdeathI thought I had set it all in the beginning process.04:57
mweI'd use gaim instead04:57
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rysiek|pldistanceisdeath: no prob. the output plugin should me alsa, as you can guess ;)04:57
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rysiek|pldistanceisdeath: yeah, once tried to locate an "error" like this for 2 days...04:57
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Ngmwe: gaim misses a lot of "features" for msn04:57
tuxtheslackerwill modprobe load a module permanently?04:57
rysiek|pldistanceisdeath: "And I am *sure* I set the ALSA plugin..."04:58
bit_doidaoHI! Does Anyone knows where to take the ubuntu photo in resolution for printing?04:58
mweNg: not anything I need. what are you thinking about?04:58
tuxtheslackeranyone?04:58
harobed_Dapper stable is out ?04:58
BoookermitX_: thanks04:58
Ngmwe: at least webcam, but there are lots of "features" in later MSN clients, like games and stuff. he did say he wanted one that supported lots of official features04:58
Ngharobed_: tomorrow04:58
mweNg: I think gaim2 has full webcam support, no?04:59
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Some_PersonI downloaded aMSN, but it needs TCL libraries04:59
Ngmwe: probably, but it's not in ubuntu either way04:59
QPAD|warlockHow can i check if i run php as root or not ?04:59
mweNg: it's been a while since I tried amsn I must admit. does it support all those features?05:00
NgSome_Person: if you enable the universe repository in synaptic you can install it with that05:00
rysiek|planybody knows, what should I add to ~/.gtkrc-2.0 so to change the tooltip-text color globally? (I have a white font set as a system font, and tootlips have this light background, so I can actually see... yeah, you know ;) )05:00
Ngmwe: it at least does webcam stuff05:00
tuxtheslackercan anyone hear me? or is just that no one knows the answer?05:00
Ng!tell Some_Person about universe05:00
mweNg: there are .debs for gaim205:00
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tuxtheslackerNg, how can I update the version of gaim to gaim2?05:00
Ngtuxtheslacker: no idea05:00
distanceisdeathThanks rysiekpl.05:00
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Ngis gaim2 even out yet? I thought it was still in beta05:01
Some_PersonWhere do I get the .deb for TCL libraries?05:01
chainlynxgo to the sourceforge gaim site05:01
mweNg: it is05:01
Zuikaztuxtheslacker:  gaim 2 is still in BETA05:01
mweNg: it works well though05:01
Zuikazbeta 305:01
chainlynxand check the ubuntu wiki05:01
Vic_Astrotuxtheslacker, by hand. get the src, compile it and you're done05:01
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BladesonfirekermitX_: "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop" >> xubuntu-system-tools/ubuntu-system-tools and evince-gtk/evince have some issues05:01
mwe!gaim205:01
ubotuPackages for gaim 2.0.0 beta 3 are available - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-April/072721.html05:01
NgSome_Person: ubotu just messaged you a link to how to enable the universe repository. once you do that you can install amsn with synaptic and it will install the tcl libs for you05:01
tuxtheslackerVic_Astro, that won't get rid of ununtu install version.05:02
QPAD|warlockHow can i check if i run php as root or not ?05:02
NgQPAD|warlock: as in the php that runs as part of a webserver/05:02
kermitX_bladesonfire: use the 'gnome' or 'ubuntu' versions of the conflicting packages.05:02
Vic_Astrotuxtheslacker, "sudo apt-get remove gaim"  will05:02
QPAD|warlockNg, and www-data runs apache, correct ?05:02
NgQPAD|warlock: yep. php will run as whatever user calls it, so if its apache, it'll be www-data05:03
BladesonfirekermitX_: okay05:03
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dodekhi05:03
mrDanielthe release for is dapper is the first june (01.06), this is tomottow, but i cant find any download link on the site http://www.ubuntu.com/download/. will there be tomorrow a downloadlink for dapper?05:03
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mrDanielthe release for is dapper is the first june (01.06), this is tomottow, but i cant find any download link on the site http://www.ubuntu.com/download/. will there be tomorrow a downloadlink for dapper?05:03
NgmrDaniel: the website will be updated after the release05:03
NgmrDaniel: and please don't repeat your questions :)05:04
Bladesonfiretri-wm goodness... almost feels like Zelda05:04
kermitX_bladesonfire: to go xubuntu-desktop package in aptitude, you should see "either/or" depends on those two conflicting packages. use evince and gnome-system-tools.05:04
rysiek|pldistanceisdeath: no prob05:04
dodekhmm, so dapper release is tomorrow?05:04
QPAD|warlockthanks Ng05:04
Ngdodek: yes05:04
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rediranyone got the syntax for find (recursively) by date in their head?05:05
dodekis it fixed time?05:05
Ngno05:05
kermitX_tomorrow is today in au, nz, jp...05:05
mrDanielthats right05:05
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mrDanieland in 12 hours it is also in amerika tomorrow05:06
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Ngfine05:06
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Ngcheck again in 24 hours05:06
Ngif "tomorrow" is too complex ;)05:06
dodekim not from america05:06
BladesonfirekermitX_: aptitude is pretty slick =D05:06
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disinterested_peyeah the word tomorrow is a real complex idea when ur talking about time stamps05:07
mrDanielyes, thats right05:07
DBOis that heres tomorrow or theres today?05:07
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gdbIt's not going to be "tomorrow" anywhere in America in 12 hours.05:08
queuetueIs anyone using netatalk to serve files to OSX machines?  The client tries to connect, asks for password, and then spins forever.  I'd like to know how to get some logging from afpd...05:08
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disinterested_pedepends what day ur calander says today05:08
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borgoliberoWhat about NTFS support in Ubuntu?05:08
dodekin my country there is +1000 timezone.05:08
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UserName14 ubuntus versions of dovecot (email server) are really pissing me off its not working how its meant to work can someone recommend the easist pop\imap\ server to setup for ubuntu05:08
DBO!ntfs05:08
ubotuto automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>05:08
gdb!winfstab05:09
ubotuin fstab it should look **like** this:: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       005:09
shannonhumph05:09
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NgUserName14: would you like to describe your problem or just rant some more? ;)05:09
g-nomeis it possible to use a "mouse gesture" for nautilus/konqueror?05:09
dodekill back here tomorrow.05:09
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shannonI installed fglrx and it says I'm satill using mesa -- how'd that happen?05:09
UserName14Ng, I have given up i am looking for an alternate server to try05:09
Kyral_FreeBSDUserName14: HowTo Forge has an excellent Howto05:10
borgoliberoubotu - thanks a lot - but what about the old project for use NTFS support? More advanced implementation in Live like Knoppix?05:10
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, borgolibero05:10
NgUserName14: oh well. I'm running it on a server that has breezy installed for pop3/pop3s/imap/imaps and it's been working fine for months05:10
Kyral_FreeBSDUserName14: Look for "Ubuntu 5.04, the Perfect Setup"05:10
UserName14Kyral, I believe that how to is for a diff version05:10
NoUseborgolibero ubotu is a bot :-)05:10
g-nomeshannon: you have a problem many users have -try the forum for "mesa issue"05:10
Kyral_FreeBSDUserName14: Its for tried and true Postfix :P05:10
Vic_AstroDon't thank ubotu, it is rude and won't respond back05:10
rlaagerIs there a package that provides a startup script for iptables rules?05:10
Kyral_FreeBSD!botsnack05:10
ubotu:)05:10
Kyral_FreeBSD!iptables05:10
UserName14Kyral, I got postfix working, just not dovecot05:10
Kyral_FreeBSDubotu tell rlaager about iptables05:11
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g-nomeKyral_FreeBSD: i suggest you to use freebsd :-) Can you tell me, is it REALLY that fast & stable (compared to others)?05:11
borgoliberoThanks . see you again.05:11
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Kyral_FreeBSDg-nome: I'm just playing around with it right now :P05:11
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g-nomeand?05:11
UserName14Kyral, What version do you think is best for the server? 504 510 or 60605:11
mwerlaager: just add the appropiate iptables command to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh05:11
g-nomeso far so good?05:12
Kyral_FreeBSDPorts is what Portage wants to be when it grows up05:12
Kyral_FreeBSDUserName14: huh?05:12
Some_PersonUbuntu is so much better than Wincrap XP05:12
Kyral_FreeBSDversion of what?05:12
Some_PersonIt's too bad my dad has Linuxphoebia.05:12
mrDanielubuntu better than win'crap' xp, i think that, too05:13
g-nomewhy?05:13
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g-nomeSome_Person: why?05:13
JanekHi ;)05:13
rlaagerKyral_FreeBSD: The relevant part of that message seems to be "iptables-initscript", but I see no such package when I try to install it.05:13
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g-nomeit can be cured :_)05:13
Janeki have problem with my Irda05:13
g-nomeanyway, is it possible to use  "mouse gestures" for nautilus/konqueror?05:14
SeMb0yhello i just updated my nvidia driver and more packages and than i restart xserver -and i get this error ->>>> This X module the version 1.0-8765 -> please make sure that the kernel module and all nvidia driver components have the same version05:14
Janeksomeone know how i can05:14
mrDanieli can just hope that much more 'avarage users' try this great linux-distribution05:14
Kyral_FreeBSDrlaager: I dunno I always used the howto :P05:14
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Some_PersonIt's easy to use, less vulnerable than Wincrap, and has more features than eye candy.05:14
KenSentMeDoes anyone here play Second Life on Ubuntu?05:14
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tuxtheslackerhello, can someone please tell me what the module for v4l is called?05:14
mwerlaager: just add the appropiate iptables command to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh05:14
rlaagerKenSentMe: I didn't play it, but I had to use it for a class recently.05:15
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DBOKenSentMe, I tried to but the alpha client is crap and it wont work in WINE05:15
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mwerlaager: iptables-restore actually05:15
KenSentMeDBO: did you manage it to run?05:15
Some_PersonI'm glad I ordered those ShipIt CDs in spite of my dad.05:15
gilianimaWhat is the command to convert a file (image, text file...) which comes form MacOS, I forgot it... ?05:15
Dio_Canehail to all05:15
KenSentMeDBO: i get lots of errors just starting ./secondlife05:15
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mwerlaager: load you rules and use iptables-save. then put iptables-restore in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh05:15
DBOKenSentMe, the alpha client?  yeah... it was horribly incomplete though...05:16
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KenSentMeDBO: on the second life forum people mention that it runs without problems05:16
mwerlaager: that will "start" iptables at boot time05:16
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DBOKenSentMe, yes, they are all the people it works for... =P05:16
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KenSentMeDBO: lol05:17
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rlaagermwe: Noted. I'm hoping to minimize the editing of existing files, as I'm trying to create local packages to do all the dirty work. I guess that'll be the easiest way.05:17
KenSentMeDBO: and on Cedega it only works with Cedega 3.3 or something05:17
Guest19660when will Dapper Drake be released?05:18
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rlaagerKenSentMe: It worked fine for me on an nvidia card, but not on my last machine (with Fedora Core 4) that had an ATI card.05:18
Frogzoo!dapper05:18
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then05:18
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KenSentMerlaager: running wine or the linux client?05:18
mwerlaager: I think it is. or install firestarter. It comes with some really cool default rules and an init script05:18
rlaagerKenSentMe: linux client05:18
_CraneLOL @ newsflash05:18
mwerlaager: or ipkungfu maybe05:19
Harold_PNews flasg?05:19
KenSentMerlaager: and ubuntu? Breezy or Dapper?05:19
Harold_Pflash*05:19
mwerlaager: they are both front ends for iptables05:19
rlaagerKenSentMe: dapper, with the nvidia-glx drivers, obviously05:19
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kermitX_ubotu: it is june 1st id sydney.05:20
ubotukermitX_: what are you talking about?05:20
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mwekermitX_: he's a bot05:20
KenSentMerlaager: I might be wrong, but you don't actually have to install the game, just download, unpack and ./secondlife, or am i wrong?05:20
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rlaagerKenSentMe: correct... I had to install libdb3 or somesuch.05:21
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mweI think it's June 1st UTC05:21
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mwethe release date05:21
tuxtheslackerwhy exactly does xawtv crash x?05:21
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KenSentMerlaager: i installed libdb-4.205:22
mwetuxtheslacker: because that and/or X is broken, probably05:22
rlaagerKenSentMe: that sounds right05:22
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kermitX_mwe: i know. ;)05:22
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tuxtheslackermwe, I'd gues.....05:22
tuxtheslackerguess*05:22
mwe:)05:22
tuxtheslacker:-P smart arse :-D05:22
KenSentMerlaager: this is the errors i get:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1491305:23
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mwebrb05:23
tuxtheslackerkopete has webcam support, correct?05:23
_vnobienHow to create the DVD repos for offline (not have insternet connect) users?05:23
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rlaagertuxtheslacker: I believe so. You might want to drop by #kopete.05:23
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rlaagerKenSentMe: In case it's a permission error... I'd blow away (or move away) the SecondLife directory, then unpack a fresh copy and try again. Make sure to unpack it as yourself, not root. Beyond that, I have absolutely no idea. It worked for me and I don't care to mess with it ever again. :)05:25
mrDanielis there an site on the wiki that describes how to 'style' ubuntu (i mean transparent windows, ...), can't find anything05:25
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Kyral_FreeBSDTrue transparacy(sp?) you need XCompMgr05:26
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Kyral_FreeBSDTerminals can pull off Psudotrans05:26
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PetrolBombipconfig for ubuntu?05:26
Kyral_FreeBSD!xcompmgr05:26
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kyral_FreeBSD05:26
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queuetueDoes anyone use netatalk to get ubuntu and OSX to make sweet love?  The osx box starts to connect and just "beachballs" forever on me...05:26
Kyral_FreeBSDipconfig? You mean ifconfig?05:26
kspath_PetrolBomb: ifconfig?05:26
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kspath_PetrolBomb: man ifconfig;man ip05:27
bit_doidaoqueuetue, you can connect to you osx from the ubuntu via samba. You have to enable windows file sharing in mac osx05:27
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Tezzer44hi05:28
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DBOOS X doesnt support NFS?05:28
Tezzer44how big is ubuntu?05:28
bit_doidaoqueuetue, or you can connect from the MAC OSX to ubuntu via samba AND/OR netatalk05:28
kspath_So sad to see people whose only experience is redmond exsposure.05:28
queuetuebit_doidao, I'd prefer to use netatalk - no sense supporting windows networking when there ain't any windows here. :)05:28
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queuetuebit_doidao, Yes, I can - if netatalk is working. :)05:28
kspath_Tezzer44: How big? In what way?05:28
Tezzer44as in the basic system05:28
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tuxtheslackeryay for working ATi Drivers, that's the first time they've loaded correctly :-D05:28
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Harold_Plol05:29
bit_doidaoqueuetue, the windows file sharing option in MAC OSX, in fact, is a samba server =)05:29
kspath_Tezzer44: Do a basic install and decide.05:29
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tuxtheslackerwow, ubuntu is flipping amazing in comparison to the other distros I've used.05:29
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KenSentMerlaager: that doesn't solve it. But i wont bother you with it anymore. I got bother the Second Life people now.05:29
queuetuebit_doidao, Yes, I'm aware of that, and, like I said, I don't want to use it.05:29
matheushello05:29
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Tezzer44iwell i have 2 installs but a friend wants to know05:29
kspath_Tezzer44: Have your friend install it and see.05:29
Tezzer44well the issue is is it small then xp05:30
bit_doidaoqueuetue, i installed netatalk few months ago, in ubuntu 5.10. it worked like a charm05:30
kspath_Tezzer44: What is xp?05:30
matheusanyone know about app custom widget on gnome-panel05:30
matheus?05:30
Harold_Phmm05:30
Tezzer44windows xp05:30
kspath_Tezzer44: Try #ubuntu-offtopic05:30
Tezzer44ok05:30
Harold_PQuiters.05:30
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tmdcaHello. Can anyone help me? I just installed Ubuntu 5.1 on my laptop, a dell latitude c600 and there was some errors during the installation ("cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0") and now my thuchpad doesent want to work.... Whats wrong?05:31
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bit_doidaoqueuetue, i had used this tutorial, but is in portuguese: http://www.dicas-l.com.br/dicas-l/20060210.php05:31
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matheusI've lost the trash and volume-control from my gnome-panel, anyone know how to I get it back?05:32
Ngmatheus: right click on the panel and choose "Add to panel" - they are in there05:32
Harold_Pmatheus: right click05:32
bit_doidaomatheus, yes... :)05:32
Harold_PBeat me.05:32
Harold_P:(05:32
Harold_Plol05:32
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tuxtheslackertmdca, sounds like there was a rpoblem with the cpu frequency change.....05:32
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tuxtheslackerthat the install does....05:32
matheusbut... this widgets were lost of the list05:32
tuxtheslackertry reinstalling, if that doens't work, I'd say there's DEFINETLY something unsupported about your hardware.05:33
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DBOtmdca, while Im not sure what your problem is, a whole new version of ubuntu comes out today that fixes a lot of laptop issues, give it a run =)05:33
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tuxtheslackerI'd google search for issues with your specific processor.05:33
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tmdcatuxtheslacker: I did. But it still dosent work...05:33
tmdcaDBO: Shall i install old version?05:33
SkipQuestion: the speaker icon in the system tray area is gone - how do I get it back? Sound works.05:33
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tuxtheslackertmdca, search for issues with your processor.05:33
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NgSkip: right click on the panel and choose "Add to panel"05:34
tuxtheslackerhave you tried it with any other distributions?05:34
DBOtmdca, try to install the new version when it comes out in a couple hours =)05:34
matheusIn the list, when I go to "Add to panel", not found the volume-control and trash05:34
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SkipBut which app do I add - cannot see it there?05:34
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tmdcatuxtheslacker: Not, yet. Okay, ill do that ^^  Thanks for the help.05:34
Ngmatheus: check you have the gnome-applets package installed05:34
NgSkip: there should be a trashcan or wastebasket entry in the list (I'm not sure exactly what it's called)05:35
tuxtheslackertmdca, I mean I'd try another distro... you can get rid of a variable if another distro installs.05:35
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tuxtheslackertmdca, but in the end it's just a band-aid :-P05:35
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sanperahello does anybody know what part of gnome (which package?) is responsible for automounting of usb drives?05:35
matheusbefore, it's were place in the panel... but my system got a crash with gnome-panel...05:35
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endless_ushi guys05:36
matheusand now... this two widgets have lost.05:36
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endless_ushave problem compiling sasc-0.5. make: *** [PLUGINS/src/sc-0.5.3//libvdr-sc.so]  Error 2    Any idea?05:36
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tmdcatuxtheslacker: but.. i like ubuntu. well, with my broadband it will take o couple of hours to download an other dist... so i guess i wait for the new one.05:36
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p_masham trying to compile an application and I get the following error.. "checking for working makeinfo... missing" .. I searched for makeinfo in Synaptic and its not there .. any directions would be helpful for newbie ...! :-)05:37
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ubuntu_Does anyone know if there is STABLE NTFS RW support for any linux distros yet?05:37
tuxtheslackertmdca, I was just saying another distro because it will tell you if it's a probelm in the distro...05:37
adchavesjose05:38
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DBOubuntu_, captive NTFS works ok...  there are other projects, but in general NTFS in linux is a write off...05:38
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Harold_PIcons themes are ni ~/.themes05:38
Harold_Pright?05:38
Harold_Pin*05:38
ubuntu_ok, ill check out captive... hopefully they will support it soon05:38
ubuntu_;)05:38
andrejkwHewy guys, after installin KDE soemthing is witth my fonts05:38
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andrejkwMy fonts in Gnome are really big05:39
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DBOubuntu_, just remember captive and ubuntu dont play nice05:39
matheusvolume-control is back... :) I reinstall the gnome-applet package05:39
matheusNg, thanks!05:39
tmdcatuxtheslacker: I see. Ill try some other dist. :)05:39
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ubuntu_DBO: really?05:39
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ubuntu_is there a wiki to set it up?05:40
tuxtheslackertmdca, :-)05:40
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DBOubuntu_, they dont play nice, so no...05:40
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tuxtheslackertmdca, honestly, I'd suggest trying to see if slack would work (it's the most vanilla distro out there in my opinion)05:40
ubuntu_i seee... ok thanks anyways05:40
aLPHa_LeaKtuxtheslacker: and its in your nickname? ;)05:41
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periclesI have cupsd listening but I can't configure my printer with GUI'ed application for configuring printers. Any suggestion what to do?05:41
=== DBO looks at tuxtheslacker's name... I think you might be bias =P
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tmdcatuxtheslacker: Thanks again. I feel so stupid when i ask my boyfriend. ^^05:42
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makelelei am becoming impatient ,when in June  is Dapper expected to be released .would it be better to upgrade or  re-instal05:42
grahal_just did a dapper upgrade and the suspend and hibernate button disappeared of the logout windows05:42
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Harold_PI'm going to reinstall.05:42
kspath_!tell makelele about dapper05:42
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Harold_PI don't want any old config files messing up Dapper.05:43
Mic__haelupgrade is easier, and you have to make a backup anyway if you care about your data05:43
ghost_hey something very wierd is happening with my upgrade to dapper, i ran  gksudo "update-manager -d" , and it all seemed to progress nicely. pops up the window, i select upgrade and it starts downloading, gets to 62 of 64 and stall. then seems to repeat this process a few times. and finally jumps up with " A problem occured during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry."05:43
Ngmakelele: it should be out within 24 hours05:43
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periclesI have cupsd listening but I can't configure my printer with GUI'ed application for configuring printers. Any suggestion what to do? (it says "can't connect to cups")05:43
tuxtheslackertmdca, hahahaha! I'm migrating my gf to linux as well :-D. I hope I can help her, and not make her feel stupid. I hate when I do that, I feel like such a dick. She's a bright girl, and deserves to be treated like it.05:43
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kspath_ghost_: /join #ubuntu+105:43
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ghost_ah okay05:43
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Harold_Phttp://127.0.0.1:631/05:43
ghost_thanks05:43
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periclesthanks, Harold05:44
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tuxtheslackeranyone have any suggestions on how to start a girlfriend on linux? like what basics to get started with?05:44
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oskudehi, has anyone got problems with cvs ? this used to work: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14914 but now i get that error with breezy/dapper and with what ever cvs reposity05:44
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kspath_tuxtheslacker: Let her play with it and answer questions only when asked.05:45
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tuxtheslackerkspath_, yeah, the thing is I'd think she'd want to know where to start playing around?05:46
oskudeor could someone thest if that cvs line here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14914 works for you ? (its not a big project, or do ctrl-c if works:)05:46
kspath_tuxtheslacker: Do not take the mouse and/or keyboard away when he/she/it is doing something "silly".05:46
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DunnixI have a question for someone about installing Ubuntu on a laptop05:46
tmdcatuxtheslacker: Well, i used linux before i meet him. He just know more than me. Oh, great. Girls and linux is a great combo. You dont make her feel stupid if you just are nice and encourage her to seek the answers self. (like i do now...  =D  )05:46
tuxtheslackerkspath_, hahaha! I have a habit of that....05:46
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tuxtheslackertmdca, okay, I'll tell her to rtfm once a week :-P j/k.05:47
kalypsoG du son ..05:47
kalypsohi hi hi05:47
zumbihello! i get this error: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed05:47
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tuxtheslackerdoes ubuntu have a community site like slackware?05:47
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tmdcatuxtheslacker: =D05:47
Harold_Ptuxtheslacker http://ubuntuforums.org/05:47
DunnixI have a small widescreen laptop and after install and it seems to boot up fine but KDE doesnt or is black.. I have use of the command line05:47
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Harold_PDunnis, login and run 'startkde'05:48
Harold_Por, 'startx'05:48
Harold_Peither one.05:48
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tuxtheslackerHarold_P, startx will start the default X, not only kde.05:49
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Harold_PI know.05:49
DanielXHi all05:49
tuxtheslackerokay, just making sure they did :-)05:49
Harold_PThat's just if he needs to get into a GUI05:49
DunnixHarold when i do Startx it says fatal server error: Server is already active for display 005:49
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Harold_PDo... CTRL + ALT + F705:49
tuxtheslackerDunnix: it's already running.05:49
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tubbiecan u play .RMVB files on Ubuntu?05:50
DanielXI booted on a mac with Dapper Drake - woohoo :)  Now, i'm wondering if there's a way to access the hard disk and recover data?05:50
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DunnixBlack screen when i do start KDE05:50
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NoUsetubbie what kind of files are those?05:50
tubbievideo files05:50
Harold_PThey're video files, I think.05:50
ghost_kspath_: no one knows or cares on ubuntu+1, the upgrader cant seem to get the last 2 packages, which i thinkcontain most of the release.05:50
Harold_Phttps://launchpad.net/products/gnome-icon-theme/+bug/4164505:50
NoUsetubbie *maybe* with mplayer05:50
Harold_PLooks like they play in realplayer05:50
stagiaire2coucou05:50
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tuxtheslackercan someone send me a link to dowlnoad america's army?05:51
fliegenderfroschDanielX, try the gnome "Disks" tool to mount the disk05:51
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kspath_tuxtheslacker: www.google.com05:51
Harold_Phttp://americasarmy.filefront.com/ tuxtheslacker05:51
tuxtheslackerHarold_P, thankee.05:51
Dunnixso i get a black screen when i do start KDE with CTRL ALT f7    maybe a resolution problem with my small screen?05:51
DanielXfliegenderfrosch : ok, looking.05:51
Harold_Phttp://americasarmy.filefront.com/files/Americas_Army/Official_Releases/Full_Install;98305:52
Harold_PIs the actual link.05:52
tuxtheslackerHarold_P, ur awesome :-D05:52
DanielXok, i'l there and i see my partitions. the main one is partition 5, 55 gig05:52
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Dunnixany ideas?05:53
DanielXaccess path says "none". do i change it to something like /mnt/something?05:53
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kspath_Does crackware still exist?05:53
fliegenderfroschDanielX, yes05:53
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p_mashwhere do I get "makeinfo" for compiling from? get this error >> "checking for working makeinfo... missing" when i run ./configure ;-(05:54
djpateif i did kernel upgrade to 2.6.16.18 where can i find kernel-headers-2.6.16.18 ? Apt get dont seems to know where to get it05:54
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NoUsedjpate I think they are called 'linux-headers'05:56
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kspath_tuxtheslacker: Oh yeah, I forgot, crackware is a somewhat common name for slack. Any particular reason you are hanging out in #ubuntu and mentioning another distro whenever you have the time?05:56
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p_mashanyone?05:58
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djpatethanks nouse i'll try that05:58
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DunnixI think im having a resolution issue with my small laptop screen someone able to help?05:58
PMantisHow is Ubuntu's nVidia RAID and LAN card support (SuperMicro Chassis)05:58
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UserName14can someone help me out im following the perfect ubuntu setup by howtoforget and the last line of page4 has me stumped i dont know what they are talking about here it is05:58
UserName14http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p405:58
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NoUsep_mash what software are you trying to install?05:59
UserName14Please go sure to enable Maildir under Management -> Settings -> EMail  in the ISPConfig web interfa05:59
NoUse!tell Dunnix about fixres05:59
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NoUseUserName14 are you trying to set up your machine as an ISP server?06:00
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p_mashNoUse: gmysqlcc http://gmysqlcc.thepozer.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/EnInstall06:00
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UserName14NoUse, i am trying to have a lamp server with function pop3 and imap06:00
p_mashlooking for a GUI frontend to mysql06:00
SkipUpgraded to dapper but 3d acceleration went out the window. Using fglrx. Any ideas?06:00
whitesuithi, do you guys know if the dapper final is going to be released midnight today or sometime tomorrow?06:00
NoUsep_mash have you tried phpmyadmin?06:01
p_mashNoUse:  prefer a gui frontend .. like mysqlfront06:01
franciscohello, is there a way to control the fan speed in an ibm notebook?06:01
Storkp_mash, how about mysqlfront06:01
DanielXfliegenderfrosch, may i speak to you privately?06:01
kspath_whitesuit: define midnight, midnight where? UTC?06:02
p_mashStork: mysqlfront dont run on linux :-(06:02
tuxtheslackerkspath_, because I'm running ubuntu right now.06:02
NoUsep_mash phpmyadmin is a GUI06:02
p_mashNoUse: its a browser interface !06:02
whitesuitkspath_, gmt06:02
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NoUsep_mash its graphical, and its a user interface, hence GUI06:02
tuxtheslackerI have 2 debian servers, 1 RHEL4 server, a slew of BSD servers, and a personal slack machine, and this ubuntu laptop :-D.06:03
p_mashNoUse: well am scrambling for words like a "desktop interface" which is what I'd like !06:03
NoUsep_mash try install build-essential if you are compiling software06:03
irelandshopeirc://irc.freenode.net/p_mash,isnick hi06:03
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KeithWeissharwhen is ubuntu 6.06 coming out?06:04
p_mashNoUse: done that but "makeinfo" seems to be missing06:04
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kspath_!tell KeithWeisshar about dapper06:04
DBOKeithWeisshar, very very soon06:04
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NoUsep_mash how did you download the program?06:04
p_mashNoUse: tarball06:04
andrejkwHey guys, after installed KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png06:04
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whitesuitkspath_, do you know what time?06:04
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kspath_whitesuit: What time what?06:04
whitesuitdapper final is coming06:05
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DunnixI think what my problem is my vbios is not delivering my correct resolution... im trying to sudo apt-get install 855resolution... but says counldnt find package 855resolution06:05
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Booo7 hours06:05
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KeithWeissharubuntu 6.06 is june 1st at what timezone06:05
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bobesponjahey all06:05
bobesponjais rosetta open source?06:05
kspath_whitesuit: Dapper release? Apparently, June 1st.06:05
LastinusKeithWeisshar: GMT? :)06:06
NoUsep_mash did you read the install file?06:06
SkipUsing dapper now06:06
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KeithWeisshardoes the dapper cd ship from shipit on june 1st06:06
p_mashNoUse: yes06:06
whitesuitthanks..will install it tonight06:06
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kspath_I am always amazed how even "technical" people do not bother with timezones or other important details.06:07
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andrejkwHey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png06:07
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RandolphCarterkspath_: that's cause techies always use UCT ;)06:07
RandolphCarteror UNIX time..06:07
nf4I just reinstalled ubutnu 5.10 just becouse I had a bunch of useless things installed and wanted a fresh install and now useing the FAQ and wiki I cannot for the life of me get dvd's to play I have every thing installed up to the point where I type "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh06:07
nf4" but that comes back with a error 12706:07
SaadNHey06:07
KeithWeissharwill there be any dappa dvd06:07
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KeithWeisshardapper06:07
NoUsep_mash looks like their package is hosed, I'd email them06:07
p_mashNoUse: what do u mean ?06:08
Dunnixany one know why sudo apt-get install 855resolution says counldnt find package?06:08
kspath_RandolphCarter: Not, in my experience. They should use it but they often enough do not and fail to list the TZ.06:08
NoUsep_mash their package doesn't work right, so you should email them06:08
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p_mashNoUse: ok :-( ..06:08
hodakhi is here any polish who can help me? i installed ubuntu and i have a problem06:08
nf4is there any other way of installing libdvdcss2?06:08
RandolphCarterkspath_: this is true :(06:08
andrejkwHey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png06:09
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andrejkwhodak: i can speak czech :\ but not polish06:09
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revmouseDunnix, do you have the universe repository in your /etc/apt/sources.list ??06:09
kspath_hodak: If you are asking for help with a problem in English why can you not ask about the problem in English?06:09
NoUsep_mash you've installed the gtk dev libs right?06:09
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hodakbecause its problem with polish aplication06:09
andrejkwhodak: join #ubuntu-pl06:09
hodakkadu if u know whats this :P06:09
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hodakoh thanks06:09
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kspath_hodak: polish chat application?06:10
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hodakyes06:10
revmouseDunnix, 855resolution points to 915resolution now anyways :)06:10
kspath_hodak:  search engine to search for the problem?06:10
Dunnixohh ok06:10
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felipe__Dapper will be available tomorrow for download, right?06:10
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nf4is there a speical respitory that I need to use to install livdvdcss206:10
Seveasfelipe__, yes06:10
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andrejkwHey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png06:10
Seveas!tell nf4 about dvd06:10
hodaki dont know how to tell u this... i am lmao with linux and i cant install it06:10
Seveasandrejkw, rm ~/.gtkrc06:10
fliegenderfroschDanielX, has it worked?06:10
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andrejkwSeveas: alright, let me try, thanks06:11
kspath_hodak: good luck06:11
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andrejkwSeveas: cannot remove `/home/andrejkw/.gtkrc': No such file or directory06:11
blakcheezwhat's gcc and cc and how do I reinstall them or whatever?06:11
hodakhehe06:11
Seveas/cs o06:11
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chainlynxfelipe, dapper is available for dl today, and all the code freezes have gone into effect06:11
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kspath_blakcheez: apt-cache search gcc06:11
NoUseblakcheez install build-essential06:11
Dunnixrevmouse   cant fine 915resolution either06:11
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Dunnixrevmouse   cant find* 915resolution either06:12
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kspath_blakcheez: NoUse is givving you a good specific method06:12
revmouseDunnix, make sure you have the universe repository06:12
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b08y!tell b08y about dvd06:12
andrejkwHey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png06:12
felipe__chainlynx, so there won't be changes from the iso that is going to be available tomorro for download?06:12
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RandolphCarterDunnix: is i855-crt what you're after?06:12
jmoncayo!dvd06:13
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)06:13
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dmesghi06:13
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dmesghow can i put an ftp server on my ubuntu06:13
dr_willis!ftp06:13
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd06:13
kspath_dmesg: lift it?06:14
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Dunnixrevmouse   cant get into KDE is what the way to get universe repository by command?06:14
blakcheezcan someone help me with locales?06:14
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dr_willisfire up synaptic and install one06:14
kspath_dmesg: apt-cache search ftp server06:14
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dmesgkspath_ ok06:14
blakcheezI can't install anything because something is wrong with the locales06:14
dr_willisdmesg:  BEST TO USE SSH IF YOU CAN06:14
revmouseDunnix: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list06:14
dr_willisGRR caps lol06:14
dmesgdr_willis is better?06:14
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andrejkwHey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png06:14
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revmouseDunnix: then remove the #'s in front of the universe repositories06:14
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kspath_dmesg: dr_willis is right about ssh being a better option if you restrict to scp and/or sftp06:15
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kspath_dmesg:  ftp is plain text authentication06:15
titanIf I am in a game, with cedega, and want to get back to the desktop, what keys do I use to do so?06:15
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blakcheezi'm having trouble with locales06:16
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blakcheez!tell me about locales06:16
NoUsetitan you can't close the game?06:16
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kspath_dmesg: most often people use the same passwords for more than one thing ,  therefore things with plaintext authentication should be avoided when possible.06:16
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dmesgkspath_ ok06:16
titanNoUse, oh I can close the game, I just want to alt-tab to a browser while playing basically.06:16
blakcheezcan someone help me with locales?06:16
andrejkwHey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png06:16
revmousetitan: Play in windowed mode ;)06:16
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titanrevmouse, yes I thought about that but won't it drop my framerates some?06:17
ketsugiAnyone here familiar with getting Gnokii to work with bluetooth?06:17
NoUsetitan oh I don't know06:17
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revmousetitan: It might, depending on how beefy your system is06:17
titanNoUse, oh ok, well thanks anyhow06:17
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kspath_titan: There is apparently a #cedega06:17
titanrevmouse, it's not all that beefy, only 1G of ram and 256 graphics card and AMD processer, can't remember the speed06:18
titankspath, What?06:18
revmousetitan: it doesn't hurt to try :)06:18
mweketsugi: I don't use it but I figure you should look into configuring bluetooth system wide06:18
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ketsugiYeah I'm having a problem with pairing06:18
titanrevmouse, very true, I will give it a try.06:18
ketsugiI'm following this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NokiaEvolutionBluetoothSyncing06:18
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marricofffff06:18
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EmxBAhi06:19
andrejkwHey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png06:19
mweketsugi: did you read the other bluetooth wikis?06:19
mwe!bluetooth06:19
ubotu[bluetooth]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote06:19
ketsugihm06:19
titankspath, what do you mean? What is #cedega for and how do I use it?06:19
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ketsugiI'll try that, thanks06:20
NoUsetitan /join #cedega06:20
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kspath_titan: #cedega is an irc channel06:20
mweketsugi: maybe they can help06:20
ketsugithanks06:20
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dr_willisCedega also has their homepage and docs. :P06:20
titanNoUse, oh ya, but I did not think it was really a cedega question, thought iwas more of a general ubuntu commands question.06:20
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nf4so that link that the bot sent me is a respitory?06:20
NoUsetitan well it can't hurt to ask there06:20
nf4how do I use it06:20
titanNoUse, very true. Thanks for your help guys.06:21
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revmousetitan, Have fun! :D06:21
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EmxBANoUse: why not wine06:21
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yanchenganyone here had tried to install Intel vTune in ubuntu? coz vTune seems to be only supported in RPM06:22
NoUseEmxBA he's running cedgea06:22
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revmouseEmxBA: Wine lacks a lot of API functionality when it comes to hardcore gaming06:22
Harold_Pyancheng, try alien06:22
Dunnixrevmouse: did the uncommenting of the universe lines.. then ran sudo apt-get install 915resolution  told me to run apt-get update  did that now it saying couldnt find 915resolution again :( back to where i was06:22
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Harold_P!tell yancheng about alien06:22
EmxBANoUse: OK, I just joinde IRC, so I dunno what's talking about06:22
revmouseDunnix, you still have to apt-get update to update your repositories06:22
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revmouseDunnix, Oh... Hmm...06:23
titanoh ya, what is the key commands to change between your desktops? Like from desktop 1 to 206:23
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EmxBArevmouse: wine is better for apps, but cedega rules when it;s about  games06:23
revmouseEmxBA, Yes, you're correct.06:23
ketsugiHm I'm still having a problem, mwe06:23
mweketsugi: :|06:23
ketsugiCan't pair because I get a passcode failure06:23
EmxBArevmouse: thanks06:23
titanwine can be used for games, just takes alot to configure and is buggy alot of times.06:23
Dunnixrevmouse: reboot maybe? lol06:23
yanchengHarold_p, i had heard about alien06:23
mweketsugi: I'm no bluetooth expert. I just thought I'd mention the wikis06:23
ketsugiahh ok06:23
chainlynxI can't install mplayer, even tho i've enabled the universe repositories... someone help?06:24
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EmxBAtitan: that's what I;m talking about06:24
revmouseDunnix, Are you running breezy or dapper?06:24
yanchengbut the install shell script provided by intel, all the stuffs are written by assuming u r using RPM linux06:24
NoUsechainlynx its in multiverse06:24
EmxBAchainlynx: what;s the problem06:24
NoUse!tell chainlynx about multiverse06:24
mweketsugi: ask in the room again. provide some details06:24
BitWittyhow does one clear the passwords saved in their keyring?06:24
Dunnixim using Hoary Hedgehod i believe06:25
revmouseDunnix, Oh...06:25
ketsugiHi, I'm having problems pairing my laptop with my phone via Bluetooth. I get a passcode authentication failure (on my phone) even though I'm entering the passcode that I configured.06:25
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gnomefreakDunnix: lsb_release -a will tell you what you are using06:25
RandolphCarterBitWitty: Install the gnome-keyring-manager program, you can clear/edit your keyring using that06:26
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carabinhello06:26
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carabinqualcuno parla italiano?06:27
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Dunnixrevmouse: yea using hoary06:27
revmouseDunnix, There is no 855resolution or 915resolution in Hoary that I know of06:27
lwizardlcan I use a network printer in ubuntu? its installed on a xp machine with filesharing setup and i have the printer set to share also06:27
revmouseDunnix, Breezy and Dapper have them though06:27
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ShastaMaroonI am trying to connect to a remote machine running cups.  I did Allow From <myLocalIP> in the admin sections and such, but I still can't connect to port 631 on that machine from this one.06:27
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Dunnixrevmouse, is it hard to upgrade to breezy?06:27
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BitWittyRandolphCarter, thanks!06:27
mike-ewhen configuring xserver-xorg what kind of mouse would typically categorize a usb logitec lazer mouse?06:28
NoUseShastaMaroon did you restart cups after making the change?06:28
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revmouseDunnix, http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy06:28
ShastaMaroonNoUse yes06:28
gnomefreakDunnix: no its not06:29
ShastaMaroonNoUse I also made sure my firewall was shut off just so it wouldn't get in the way for this06:29
gnomefreak!ubuntuguide06:29
ubotuI heard ubuntuguide is badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.06:29
gnomefreakubotu tell Dunnix -about upgrade06:29
NoUseShastaMaroon can you ssh to the machine or some other kind of connection?06:29
gnomefreakDunnix: use the link in your pm but only upgrade to breezy for now please06:29
revmousegnomefreak, what is the link for my future reference06:30
ShastaMaroonNoUse yes.  Using VNC I can connect to localhost:631 on the server...but nobody else can connect to 192.168.1.3:631 (the server's IP)06:30
revmouseDunnix, sorry about the bad information06:30
gnomefreak!upgrade06:30
ubotuI guess upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.06:30
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gnomefreakbut you can only safe;y upgrade 1 release at a time06:30
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NoUseShastaMaroon can you pastebin the Allow lines you have in your cupsd.conf06:31
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ShastaMaroon!tell ShastaMaroon about pastebin06:31
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buzzedhow do i update firefox?06:32
gnomefreak!ff1.506:32
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:32
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gnomefreakbuzzed: ^^^06:32
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gnomefreakbrb restart x06:32
chainlynxyeah that wiki update firefox page is great06:32
chainlynxworks like a charm06:32
buzzedthx06:32
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Mangewhen will dapper be available as final version? can't seem to find the date.06:32
nf4I am still getting error 127 when trying to install css06:32
NoUseMange June 106:33
nf4I got this to work three times befor I dont know what the problem is this time06:33
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vdepizzolanybody here is wiki user of wiki.ubuntu.com?06:33
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ShastaMaroonNoUse pasted under my nick06:33
vdepizzolIn this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto , the item ComoGrabarIso (Brasilian Portugees) is not portuguese, but spanish ;)06:34
NoUseShastaMaroon you realized that # comments out the line?06:34
ShastaMaroonNoUse yes06:34
ShastaMaroonNoUse I added a lot of extra lines...what I did is closer to the bottom06:34
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NoUseShastaMaroon you don't have a <Location> section06:35
ShastaMaroon<Location /> ?06:35
NoUseShastaMaroon you need to add the Allow lines inside the <Location> tags near the top06:35
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serchanI need reliable 3D graphic benchamrt (no glxgears)06:35
NoUseShastaMaroon yeah06:35
ShastaMaroonoh06:35
ShastaMaroonone sec...06:36
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EmxBAhave you finished?06:37
ShastaMaroonNoUse still no luck.  Under <Location /> I added Allow From 192.168.1.5 (machine I'm trying to connect from..still nothing.  Won't connect to anything on port 63106:37
yanchengmay i noe is there any profiling tool for linux to measure the performance of certain code portion? just like what intel vTune does?06:38
NoUseShastaMaroon then I'm out of ideas06:38
ShastaMaroonNoUse me too.06:38
ShastaMaroonNoUse thanks anyway06:38
NoUseShastaMaroon were you following the wiki page?06:38
EmxBAmaybe port 631 is used06:38
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ShastaMaroonNoUse no, I installed cups and used the web interface to add some printers and then added those Allow From lines...didnt know there was a wiki.  let me check that out.06:39
ShastaMaroon!tell ShastaMaroon about cups06:39
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NoUseShastaMaroon search the wiki for network printing, they have guides06:39
twopeakis there a way to open the file browser as root without going through the terminal?06:39
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EmxBAthere is a cups browser configuration app06:39
blue-frogdoes anyone know how to create an .ifo file from a .vob file, pls?06:40
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NoUseEmxBA he is trying to do network printing, which requires editing cupsd.conf06:40
serchanhey is there some complet package where additional stuff like skype flash vlc etc is ?06:40
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EmxBAtry samba06:40
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NoUse!teall serchan about easyubuntu06:40
ubotuNoUse: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:40
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NoUse!easyubuntu06:41
ubotuI guess easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.06:41
wogiSave me. Evolution is hurting me :(06:41
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NoUseEmxBA using cups directly is easier06:41
EmxBAwogi: why >D06:41
EmxBAD06:41
tubbie!java06:41
tubbie??06:41
tubbiewhereis the bot?06:41
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:41
wogiEmxBA: heh because it's not allowing me to connect to the Global Address List06:41
tubbie!java06:41
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EmxBANoUse: the best thing is to edit cups.conf mannualy06:41
wogiEmxBA: It looks like the problem I'm having could have been a bug from 2.0.2.. Except the version in ubuntu looks much higher :/06:42
NoUseEmxBA thats what I'm telling him to do06:42
ScurveyFrogI'm getting an error when trying to remove cman with apt:06:42
ScurveyFrogFATAL: Module cman not found.06:42
ScurveyFrog Warning unable to load cman kernel moduleFATAL: Module dlm not found.06:42
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EmxBAwogi: oh, OK06:42
wogiEmxBA: I dunno really how to try to patch it..06:42
ScurveyFroghow can I fix this?06:42
tucozHi, when I updated recently, I lost 3d acceleration. It looks like the fglrx-kernel did not get updated to the latest fglrx-version.06:42
wogiEmxBA: Or even if I should try to..06:42
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EmxBAwogi: i have dialup, and evolution is OK06:42
EmxBAbut i use dapper :D06:43
wogiEmxBA: Ooh..06:43
tucozis this a known issue, or am I the only one?06:43
wogiEmxBA: Can I do some sort of dist-upgrade to get there easily?06:43
EmxBAwogi: you mean to update only evolution06:43
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s|khow long does a ban last on freenode?06:43
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ScurveyFrogdoes anyone know how to fix a problem where apt gets hung up on one package and is unable to install or uninstall any others?06:44
wogiEmxBA: Er.. Well, whichever is easier.. I would like Evolution to work, but if upgrading to dapper is the easiest way for that..? Sorry, I'm sort of a nooblet here.06:44
EmxBAs|k: very much :d06:44
s|kScurveyFrog: ScurveyFrog a broken package?06:44
EmxBAwogi: no, you don't need to upgrade everyhing, just evolution06:44
NoUseScurveyFrog try 'sudo apt-get -f install'06:44
EmxBAto the version which is used on dapper06:44
wogiEmxBA: Ah so I can run dapper pkgs on breezy..06:44
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wogiEmxBA: Can you point me to some instructions for that? <306:45
EmxBAwell, yes06:45
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paul_Anyone got some advice on how to get ipod to work with sound applicatons that support it?06:45
EmxBAwogi: private me.06:45
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ScurveyFrogNoUse: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 106:45
wogizomg cybors06:45
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Dunnixlol how do you pronounce hoary? :)06:45
NoUseScurveyFrog what package is it hung up on?06:45
Specwhorey06:45
ScurveyFrogNoUse: cman06:45
Dunnixlol06:45
EmxBAhooray :D06:46
apokryphoswhore-ree06:46
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SurfnKidum06:46
Specwhore-ray?06:46
EmxBAwho-i-ree06:46
SurfnKidi couldnt get my ATI card to lead correctly06:46
SurfnKidHelp :(06:46
gantchevhi06:46
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apokryphosnah, no ray06:46
NoUseScurveyFrog try just removing cman06:46
Specyou have no say; you've been shot :p06:46
EmxBAthere is radeontool app06:46
apokryphosit was merely a flesh wound06:46
Dunnixive been sayin it hooray06:46
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apokryphosDunnix: you've been saying it wrong ;-)06:47
SurfnKidEmxBA radeontool?06:47
tubbieI have some special keys on my wireless keybaord and I want to use them. but I dunno what to enter in gconf-editor. how do I find out what codes these special keyshave?06:47
Dunnixi know i feel like im suck a tool06:47
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tubbiekeys have*06:47
ScurveyFrogNoUse: that's what I was trying to do originally, and it gives me that same error06:47
Dunnixsuch*06:47
EmxBASurfnKid: yeah06:47
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ShastaMaroonNoUse works now :-D06:48
Shaezschewill i get the same battery life running ubuntu as i do in windows xp?06:48
EmxBAShaezsche, depending on what you do06:49
EmxBAwhich apps are you running06:49
Shaezschelets assume i run the same apps i would be running in windows xp06:49
SurfnKidEmxBA do you have a link or something06:49
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NoUseScurveyFrog try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure cman && sudo apt-get remove cman'06:49
NoUseScurveyFrog oh ok06:49
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NoUseScurveyFrog what did you do?06:49
andrejkwyay!!06:50
EmxBASurfnKid: that;s annutility to control ATI Radeon backlight functions on laptops.06:50
andrejkwpoppowonni pizza!!06:50
EmxBA*that's06:50
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ScurveyFrogNoUse:  cman is broken or not fully installed06:50
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Shaezsche??06:50
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ScurveyFrogNoUse: what do you mean?06:50
NoUseScurveyFrog nevermind sorry06:50
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SurfnKidbut thats backlight, I want the ATI driver to load up and do my graphics rendering06:50
EmxBASurfnKid: try http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/source/radeontool06:50
basemani'm having an issue with DHCP on my Orinoco card on Dapper RC.  Can anyone give me a hand?06:51
EmxBAyou mean 3D06:51
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Shaezscheso battery life will be the same?06:51
EmxBAwogi: go to private chatting06:51
EmxBAShaezsche, it depends :d06:51
gnomefreakbaseman: #ubuntu+1 for dapper06:51
Shaezschedepends on what06:52
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Shaezscheif i use the same apps i would be using in windows while using ubuntu?06:52
JulienHHi all06:52
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SurfnKidYea 3D06:52
EmxBAi gotta go06:52
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tuxtheslackerwhat are some quick to install and fun games?06:52
Shaezschecan ubuntu still be installed on a usb HD?06:53
revmousetuxtheslacker, frozen-bubble, chromium, neverball06:53
kspath_!research06:53
ubotukspath_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:53
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JulienHI'm installing Ubuntu with a RAID5 config (3 IDE disks)06:53
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tuxtheslackerrevmouse, what is neverball?06:53
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revmousetuxtheslacker: its a game where there's this ball, and you gotta maneuver a platform to roll the ball around to collect coins and reach a goal06:54
JulienHArriving to the "Installing GRUB boot loader" step, the progress bar is stuck to 50%... why ?06:54
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serchanow to make WIn-key operate?06:54
kspath_!tell NthDegree about away06:54
tuxtheslackerrevmouse: so it's marble madness :-P06:54
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SurfnKidcan anyone guide me to do the ATI 9600 install on my laptop pleeeeeease06:55
tuxtheslackerrevmouse, are there any others? 3d perferably, simply because I want to check out what I'm able to do with this new driver.06:55
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serchansurfnKid: google ubuntu Ati install06:55
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jendaDoes anyone know how to connect an IRC channel to a Jabber room?06:56
tucozSurfnKid, or type /msg ubotu ATI06:56
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kspath_jenda: /join #jabber06:56
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dizyhi.... my mouse back and forward button acts like scroll up and down in firefox.. how can i fix this?06:57
bllellhi anyone can help me?06:57
jendakspath_: thanks ;) (it's for the #ubuntu-cz channel, so I found it Ubuntu-related enough)06:57
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wogiCould someone direct me to a resource on installing dapper packages in breezy?06:57
tuxtheslackerbllell, we'lkl tell you if we can help when you tell is the problem ;-)06:57
Fastlyis dapper officially released tomorrow?06:57
serchanI got it06:57
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kspath_!tell Fastly about dapper06:58
SurfnKidthanks guys06:58
bllellok, i've installed ubuntu, then i'd create an account, so i'd put a password, but what is root's password?06:58
SurfnKidi think im missing a few package installs06:58
maruchanwhats the fastest why to uninstall xorg-fgrlx06:58
kspath_bllell: sudo06:58
Fastlythanks kspath_06:58
wogibllell: Just sudo su and use your pw :)06:58
NthDegreebllell: there is none to start with, you use sudo to give your user root access06:58
bllellsudo?06:59
SurfnKidwhats this mean?06:59
SurfnKidXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".06:59
SurfnKiddisplay: :0.0  screen: 006:59
SurfnKidOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org06:59
SurfnKidOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect06:59
SurfnKidOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)06:59
bllellhow?06:59
SeveasSurfnKid, it means you shouldn't paste in here06:59
bllelli've type sudo on my console06:59
andrejkwWhoa, so we'll have to wait 3yrs for next next release after Dapper?06:59
kspath_bllell: Did you read any documentation?06:59
SurfnKidlol06:59
Seveasandrejkw, no, 4 months06:59
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SurfnKidIm trhying to get help, not flood :)06:59
andrejkwSeveas: Wow, then Wikipedia has it wrong.06:59
kspath_bllell: sudo apt-cache search documentation06:59
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andrejkwbuntu version 6.06 LTS, codenamed "Dapper Drake", scheduled for release June 1 2006, will be supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 years on the server, instead of the usual 18 months [2] .06:59
kspath_bllell: It will ask for a password. Type in your password.06:59
bllellkspath_, how can i use sudo, can u tell me the string?07:00
kspath_bllell: sudo apt-cache search documentation07:00
Seveasandrejkw, dapper will be supported for 3 to 5 years, but there will be new versions every october and april07:00
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bllellthank you07:00
bllell:)07:00
andrejkwSeveas: and will it be easy to upgrade?07:00
Seveasvery07:00
andrejkwSeveas: ok great07:00
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wogiUrgh. I wonder if there's any way to reset your nickserv pw..07:01
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Seveaswogi, /msg nickserv set password new_pass07:02
JulienHHello, I have a problem installing Ubuntu 5.10 on a RAID5 configuration07:02
SurfnKidhow come when I do the apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx  message says  package is not available but is referred to by  another pacckage its missing or obsolete07:02
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ingois airport extreme working now? :-D07:02
SeveasSurfnKid, you're missing repositories07:02
wogiBut that's assuming I remember my initial pw :)07:02
Seveasingo, sort-of07:02
andrejkwlol, Engy Eft, whats that about?07:02
andrejkw*Edgy07:02
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JulienHOn the Alt+F4 console, it shows "Installing grub on '(hd0)'" whereas it should be on md0... isn't it ?07:02
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Seveaswogi, in that case: contact freenode staff07:02
kspath_wogi: /msg nickserv help07:02
SurfnKidsounds likhow do I know which repo i need to enable07:02
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ingoseveas: could you explain please?07:02
_clemdoes anybody know if the RC that was released on the 25th will become the final release ? or will any modifications be done to it ?07:03
Seveas!tell SurfnKid about repos07:03
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Seveasingo, you still need to install the firmware manually (fwcutter helps)07:03
ingoseveas: do you know if the speed / reliability is there now with dapper? or is it still flakey07:03
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Warp2dapper has never been flakey for me, but I have a different definition of flakey perhaps07:04
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Seveasingo, it's no 1st class driver but reasonably decent07:04
dizyhi.... my mouse back and forward button acts like scroll up and down in firefox.. how can i fix this?07:04
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ingoseveas: thank's for your help. the only thing to do now is try it out tomorrow :)07:04
bllellif i type sudo apt-cache search documentation, appear a list07:05
kspath_bllell: right07:05
JulienHKnock, knock ? No RAID ? :)07:05
bllellnot so right ihihihi07:05
juancahello everyone, I need to make a copy of a wiki for offline browsing, I thought about wget, but I can't make it07:05
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kspath_bllell: apt-cache search would normally require "root" access.07:05
kspath_bllell: That is how to use sudo07:05
Seveaskspath_, no it won't07:05
juancacan some one help me please?07:05
Seveas!tell juanca about someone07:05
p_masham trying to mount 2 ntfs partitions on another disk so I can copy stuff and nuke windows).. have created the /media/win1 and media/win2 dirs (using sudo -i) and mounted them.. but I get permission denied .. any help on this.. pls ..07:06
bllellthen?07:06
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kspath_bllell: then what?07:06
bllellwhen i type "su"07:06
bllells.o. ask me a pw07:06
kspath_bllell: su is different than sudo07:06
Kyral_FreeBSDsudo!07:06
Kyral_FreeBSDsudo!07:06
_clemany info about the release candidate ?07:06
Kyral_FreeBSDsudo!07:06
kspath_bllell: man su;man sudo07:06
bllellyeah understand07:06
Kyral_FreeBSDseriously, someone symlink su to sudo :P07:06
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kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: They are different. No point in dumbing down things even more.07:07
bllelli know, but if i want to have root access (#) , i must type su, and type in a password07:07
wogiSo.. Maybe if I add dapper server lines to my sources file I can install dapper pkgs O.o ?07:07
Kyral_FreeBSDkspath_: you mean we can dumb it down even MORE?07:07
juancaI need a hand to get a offline copy of a wiki site07:07
Kyral_FreeBSD:P07:07
bllellisn't it?07:07
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Kyral_FreeBSDbllell: sudo -i07:07
gnomefreakwogi: dont mix breezy and dapper repos07:07
kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: apparently.07:07
bllellhuhuhuhu07:08
Harold_Pahh07:08
bllelli'm a stupid07:08
bllell;)07:08
Kyral_FreeBSDkspath_: NOT POSSIBLE :P07:08
bllellthank kyral07:08
Kyral_FreeBSDhehe07:08
Kyral_FreeBSDnp07:08
Kyral_FreeBSDI make fun of the distro, but I am still a Member and will support it :D07:08
dizycan someone please help me with the mouse ;/07:08
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Kyral_FreeBSDis it plugged in?07:08
juancai thought about wget but I can't find the right options07:08
wogignomefreak: So best to run either fully breezy or fully dapper?07:08
Kyral_FreeBSDjuanca: man wget?07:08
kspath_juanca: curl? pavuk?07:08
gnomefreakwogi: yes07:08
gnomefreakwogi: mixing repos is teh fastest way to screw up your os07:09
tuxtheslackershare/image.c:313: warning: data definition has no type or storage class07:09
tuxtheslackershare/image.c:314: error: syntax error before } token07:09
tuxtheslackermake: *** [share/image.o]  Error 107:09
wogignomefreak: hah ok. hrmm.07:09
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tuxtheslackerthat's what happens when I run a make on neverball, can someone tell me what would cause that?07:09
gnomefreakjuanca: what is it saying?07:09
Kyral_FreeBSDtuxtheslacker: one NO PASTE07:09
juancaKyral_FreeBSD: if I ask for help is because I have read the manual07:09
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gnomefreaktuxtheslacker: use pastebin07:09
_clemdizy: you need to tweak you /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.. in the device section. Give different meanings to each button.07:09
Kyral_FreeBSDtuxtheslacker: second someone made a STUPID eror in coding07:09
wogignomefreak: *sob* Evolution shall never work for me. But thanks for the warning!07:09
zeccozrebooting modem brb07:09
dizyis there a guide on how to do do that07:09
tuxtheslackergnomefreak, I thoguht it was 4 lines that was flooding, sorry.07:09
Kyral_FreeBSDand ain't neverball in the Repos?07:10
gnomefreakwogi: evo is even worse in dapper07:10
juancagnomefreak: hi, it more about not getting all the files, I think it is beacause they don't end in .html07:10
gnomefreaktuxtheslacker: no lines07:10
gdbtuxtheslacker: you're fine07:10
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wogignomefreak: hah but I have to connect to an exchange server.07:10
wogignomefreak: What choice do I have?07:10
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mwemissing includes can cause syntax errors due to missing #defines07:10
gnomefreakwogi: that i dont know07:10
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Kyral_FreeBSDmwe: that was no missing include07:11
Kyral_FreeBSDmwe: some idiot forgot a ; or somethign07:11
kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: I even dumb down my answers but yet I do not spoonfeed because I assume anyone that has a clue will find out on their own and those that do not understand need to read a lot.07:11
Kyral_FreeBSDkspath_: bingo07:11
mweKyral_FreeBSD: I haven't seen the code, so I can't argue07:11
Kyral_FreeBSDkspath_: I won't give you the answer directly but I'll point you in the right direction07:11
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kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: How fast can you read?07:12
eddiestonehi peaple, how do I install compiz in dapper?07:12
Kyral_FreeBSDhuh?07:12
Kyral_FreeBSD!compiz07:12
ubotuCompiz is a compositing manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. See http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz -- Installation howto's:   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.07:12
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tuxtheslackerand... finiding the hanging } is not oging to be easy :-P07:12
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eddiestoneok thanks07:12
Kyral_FreeBSDtuxtheslacker: this is why I use indentation07:12
kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: I barely lifted my finger off the enter/return key before you answered bingo.07:12
gnomefreakeddiestone: #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-xgl please07:12
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Kyral_FreeBSDand an editor that indents for me07:12
Kyral_FreeBSDso a missing brace causing the indentation to be funky07:12
mwetuxtheslacker: pastebin the error with some more lines and/or point to your source code.07:13
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Kyral_FreeBSDin vim the command would be (to reindent the entire file) gg=G07:13
tuxtheslackermwe: it's not my source :-D it's neverballs.07:13
mwetuxtheslacker: I know. that's what I meant :)07:13
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Kyral_FreeBSDkspath_: I'm good like that?07:14
gnomefreaktuxtheslacker: is it opensource?07:14
Kyral_FreeBSDI dunno its called I was paying attention for once :P07:14
mwetuxtheslacker: where is the source for that?07:14
tuxtheslackermwe one seocnd, I'll post it.07:14
tuxtheslackerhttp://pastebin.com/74938207:14
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tuxtheslackerThat's the source.07:15
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externwhat am I missing? I get sh: g++: command not found error when I try to compile07:15
externgcc is installed07:16
Kyral_FreeBSDbuild-essential07:16
mwetuxtheslacker: it's a missing/broken header causing it07:16
SpecExposure: build-essential07:16
tuxtheslackerhttp://pastebin.com/74938707:16
Specerr, extern ^^07:16
mwetuxtheslacker: like I thought07:16
tuxtheslackermwe: figured as much :-P07:16
Kyral_FreeBSDconfigure should have picked up on that07:16
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Kr0ntabgcc is different package than g++07:16
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tuxtheslackerthe question is... which?07:16
mwetuxtheslacker: it says SDL_FreeSurface(src);07:16
Kyral_FreeBSDKr0ntab: but build-essential still pulls it in07:16
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Kr0ntabsudo apt-get install build-essential07:17
mwetuxtheslacker: I says syntax error because that's not #defined07:17
tuxtheslackermwe: where does it say that? I need to get better at reading these things.07:17
Kr0ntabi know07:17
gdbYou're missing the SDL*.h headers.07:17
mwetuxtheslacker: line 313 like the error told you07:17
gdbtuxtheslacker: At the top of the error output07:17
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Kyral_FreeBSDbtw I reposted with Syntax Hilighting07:17
gdbtuxtheslacker: do this "make neverball 2>&1 | more" and read the first few lines.07:17
pioudddddd07:17
gdbor whatever the name of the file is07:17
tuxtheslackermwe, thanks!07:17
Kyral_FreeBSDhttp://pastebin.com/74938907:18
stumanhi.  new to ubuntu.  can you setup ubuntu to automatically log in a specific user after n seconds like plain old debian?07:18
gdbtuxtheslacker: You're probably going to need to install the Free 3d graphics stuff (SDL and GLuT).07:18
mwetuxtheslacker: I'm guessing it needs to include some SDL headers it doesn't or use another version, but I'm only guessing07:18
dizydoes anyone know why the mouse back and forward button would act like scroll up and down in firefox... i ca'nt find anything on google07:19
tuxtheslackeryeah, I'm assuming...07:19
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Harold_Phttp://www.ubuntu.com/ Just changed07:19
gdbdizy: It's supposed to work that way07:19
Harold_PNew lay out07:19
tuxtheslackeris the quake 2 in apt the quake 2 game? or just the engine?07:19
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gdbdizy: scroll up is "mouse button 4" and scroll down is "mouse button 5"07:19
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Kr0ntabstuman, check gdmsetup07:19
pussfellertuxtheslacker: you will need the wafs07:19
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pussfellerwads07:19
stumantnx Kr0ntab07:19
kbrosnanubotu, tell dizy about mouse07:19
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tuxtheslackerthanks :-D07:20
gdbHow disappointing.07:20
dizybut why are back and forward then acting like button4 and 5... anyway to reasign them07:20
casanova_hi guys, a question regarding the breezy badger release (yes, i'm abouttoupgrade through the repository)07:20
gdbI don't get the Desktop/Server distinction. :-/07:20
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Kyral_FreeBSDcasanova_: don't be surprised if the servers are overloaded07:20
gdbIt annoys me when distributions try to do that.07:20
KenSentMeKr0ntab: gdmsetup is not in the repositories, is it?07:20
Kyral_FreeBSDgdb: Desktop installs the GNOME and stuff07:20
Kyral_FreeBSDServer installs the good old Commandline07:20
Kr0ntabits installed by default...07:20
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Kyral_FreeBSDthink a basic Debian install :P07:20
casanova_Because i'm running an AMD 64 -bit chip, i chose to use the generic AMD 64 -patched kernel too07:20
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tuxtheslackeris it safe to upgrade?07:20
tritiumcasanova_: you know that dapper will be released as stable in a few hours?07:21
gdbKyral_FreeBSD: I get that, I don't get why there has to be a different install media for it.07:21
tuxtheslackerupgrade with apt*07:21
Kyral_FreeBSDgdb: there is? Since when?07:21
casanova_But i have a problem concerning the kernel: Macromedia Flash Player doen't support my kernel!07:21
gdbKyral_FreeBSD: Since 6.0607:21
casanova_!?07:21
ubotucasanova_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:21
Kyral_FreeBSDtuxtheslacker: Servers will be overloaded about for about a week07:21
Kr0ntabgo to system -> administration -> Login Screen Setup07:21
Kr0ntabor sudo gdmsetup07:21
Kyral_FreeBSDgdb: well, I stopped using Dapper a couple months ago so....07:21
mwetuxtheslacker: what is the web page for neverballs?07:21
Kyral_FreeBSDgdb: frankly thats retarded :P07:21
tuxtheslackerKyral_FreeBSD, no, I meant is it safe, or does it break it?07:21
casanova_there i should find a version of the Flash player that runs on amd_64 uvuntu?07:22
Kyral_FreeBSDtuxtheslacker: Dapper is going stable TOMORROW07:22
stumantnx again Kr0n...  I couldn't find it under administration, but opened a terminal and did "sudo gdmsetup" and it did just what I wanted.07:22
gdbKyral_FreeBSD: Well, at least there are separate links to download "Desktop Ubuntu" and "Server Ubuntu".07:22
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gdbAnd yes, it's lame.07:22
Kyral_FreeBSDgdb: Server Ubuntu == Debian07:22
Kyral_FreeBSDin my eyes :P07:22
tuxtheslackerKyral, no, what I mean is, is it safe to upgrade to Dapper form apt-get upgrade?07:22
tuxtheslackerfrom*07:22
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gnomefreakubotu tell tuxtheslacker -about upgrade07:23
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tuxtheslackerlike it won't break things like in fedora with yum?07:23
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Kyral_FreeBSDtuxtheslacker: should be, again I stopped testing Dapper about 2 months ago when I jumped to ArchLinux07:23
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ErenTurkayhi again :)07:23
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gnomefreaktuxtheslacker: you should be fine07:23
Kyral_FreeBSDIf you want to run a server, run Debian, simple as that07:23
lwizardlcan ubuntu share printers with windows ?07:23
Kyral_FreeBSDor FreeBSD for that matter07:23
tuxtheslackergnomefreak, thanks :-)07:23
gnomefreakyw07:23
ErenTurkayubuntu-6.06  %99 :))07:23
gnomefreaklwizardl: yes samba07:23
tuxtheslackergnomefreak, thanks :-).07:23
gdbI wouldn't run Debian for any reason.07:24
gnomefreaktuxtheslacker: yw07:24
tuxtheslackerKyral, how is archlinux? I've heard good things.07:24
Kyral_FreeBSDgdb: yet you run Ubuntu lol07:24
NoUselwizardl https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP07:24
Kyral_FreeBSDtuxtheslacker: If you want everything to "just work" it ain't for you07:24
casanova_I would run Debian. Ubuntu and other "custom distros" jus save in installation (build) time07:24
gdbKyral_FreeBSD: Yes, that's right.  And it's not Debian any more than CentOS is RHEL.07:24
lwizardlgnomefreak, ok I have samba setup already using my windows box as a location for storing files07:24
Kyral_FreeBSDtuxtheslacker: if you love to tweak the hell outta your system, then its for you :P07:24
tuxtheslackerKyral, I'm coming from a slackware background.07:24
tuxtheslacker;-)07:24
Kyral_FreeBSDtuxtheslacker: You'll be fine then! :D07:24
Kyral_FreeBSDYea another Slacker!07:25
gnomefreaklwizardl: read the linkk NoUse posted07:25
tuxtheslackerI'm sticking with ubuntu, I was just asking for future reference :-D07:25
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tuxtheslackerhahaha! many thanks.07:25
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gnomefreakKyral_FreeBSD: and gdb please take the general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic07:25
lwizardlgnomefreak, I am just was giving info on my setup incase i hit a snag in the config07:25
NoUsegnomefreak that link doesn't use samba but it works well for me07:25
Kyral_FreeBSDpsh, another reason I like Arch, they don't mind general convos in thier channel :P07:25
casanova_Slackware is my favourite actually, it's the real linux -- if Gentoo is not a "linux" =DD07:26
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gdbgnomefreak: Can you please swallow a Xanax?  Most of your scroll is telling other's to knock off whatever you find distasteful after all of 3 lines of text.07:26
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Kyral_FreeBSDduck07:26
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kspath_bye07:26
mwetuxtheslacker: why don't you just apt-get install neverball?07:26
gnomefreakDBO: i asked you and Kyral_FreeBSD to move it to offtopic07:26
Kyral_FreeBSDif we are deluged with questions, then yes I can see forcing convos to -offtopic07:26
crimsunKyral_FreeBSD: c'mon man, you know better.07:26
Kyral_FreeBSDbut its relatively light in here07:26
lwizardlNoUse, that looks like the printer is hooked up to the ubuntu pc and printing from the windows pc07:26
DBOgnomefreak???07:26
jimcooncat?07:26
Shyneis this the correct place to ask newbie questions ???07:27
mwetuxtheslacker: why are you compiling it yourself?07:27
Kyral_FreeBSDShyne: yes07:27
NoUselwizardl is that not what you wanted?07:27
gnomefreaksorry not you DBO07:27
gnomefreaki meant gdb07:27
onkarshindeShyne: yes07:27
casanova_Butin Debian, i think that the abundance of software, easiness of administration, and easy customization rules. OF course, i could use Gentoo or Slackware in some embedded projects as well, but...07:27
Morrowyncompiling is fun :D07:27
kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: It does distract from seeing/noticing the questions even with all the ignores I have in place though.07:27
Morrowyn</sarcasm>07:27
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tuxtheslackermwe: it'07:27
Kyral_FreeBSDpsh *goes back to hacking on his SHCD*07:27
lwizardlmine is hooked to the windows pc and I want to print from the ubuntu  pc to the windows pc (hit print in ubuntu, and windows pc print it)07:27
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tuxtheslackermwe: it's not in apt-get from what I see.07:27
casanova_By the way guys, is there anywhere a general Debianized custom kernel repository?07:27
mwetuxtheslacker: it is. enable universe07:27
Kyral_FreeBSDMorrowyn: I actually like compiling lol07:27
NoUselwizardl sorry, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter07:28
lwizardlok thanks07:28
mwe!info neverball07:28
casanova_Cos i know a few kernel developers, but they rarely share their work.07:28
ubotuneverball: (3D arcade games: neverball & neverputt), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 1.4.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 176 kB, Installed size: 468 kB07:28
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Kyral_FreeBSDBTW #ubuntuforums is also for offtopic :P07:28
Shyneright - i spent a couple of hours figuring out how to get my bluetooth keyboard/mouse set working - just needed to type a couple of lines in the end. Can i add these lines somewhere for them to be run automatically when it boots ???07:28
lwizardlNoUse, that one is exactly what i wanted. thanks07:28
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casanova_I just know the "official" Debian kernel ports07:28
tuxtheslackermwe: I've enabled it :-/.07:28
onkarshindeShyne: What are those lines?07:29
mwetuxtheslacker: uhm not succesfully I think if you don't have neverball07:29
rhyddinhey all07:29
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alaitheahi all, is there a way to debug what's going on with my runlevel startup scripts? I've got one all set up (as far as I can tell), but it's not running after reboot.07:29
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tuxtheslackerhahaha! mwe: what would neverabll be listed as? neverball I'm assuming?07:29
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kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ also exists07:29
mwetuxtheslacker: did you sudo apt-get update after you enabled universe?07:29
Kyral_FreeBSDkspath_: I am on them :P07:29
mwetuxtheslacker: right07:29
Kyral_FreeBSDalmost all of them :P07:29
mwetuxtheslacker: sudo apt-get neverball is what I did07:30
Shyneonkarshinde: hidd --connect <bd addr> is about the size of it- i tried the command suggested to add to the bluez file but it was ignored07:30
mwetuxtheslacker: apt-get install neverball that is07:30
Kyral_FreeBSDand still, LKML outdoes them all combined :P07:30
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tuxtheslackerokay, all of a sudden it showed up....07:30
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mwetuxtheslacker: heh07:30
tuxtheslackermwe: it showed up this time randomly....07:31
Shyneam i supposed to use: sudo gedit /etc/init.d/local and add lines in there for startup stuff ?07:31
onkarshindeShyne: In /etc/default/bluez-utils there is a section HIDD_OPTIONS07:31
tuxtheslackerhahaha! I did an apt-cache search on it for like minutes :-D07:31
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Kr0ntabhehe  neverball rocks.07:31
Shyneonkarshinde where u add the switch -i <addr> ?07:31
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mwetuxtheslacker: it's kinda hard playing it with a trackpoint :)07:33
onkarshindeShyne: You can put it this way, HIDD_OPTIONS="--master --server --connect addr_keyboard --connect addr_mouse". Put approriate values07:33
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tuxtheslackermwe, hahahaha! I would imagine :-D07:33
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Shyneah - i will try thanks07:33
Shynethe article i read used -i !07:33
onkarshindeShyne: -I specifies which interface to use if yu have more than one.07:33
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Shynethanks07:33
Shyneill give it a shot07:33
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juancagnomefreak: thanks, I will try another day bye07:34
alaitheais there a log I can look in to debug what's going on with my rc startup scripts?07:34
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speyerhi all07:34
speyeris dapper out yet ?07:35
Kyral_FreeBSDalaithea: aside from dmesg07:35
Kyral_FreeBSDspeyer: tomorrow07:35
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Kyral_FreeBSDWord of caution, the servers will be swamped, so don't be surprised if its slow downloading mkay?07:35
speyerKyral_FreeBSD what about tonight after twelve ?07:35
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Kyral_FreeBSDspeyer: What timezone :P07:35
onkarshindespeyer: 1st June, 5:30 am UTC07:35
mweUTC07:35
mwehuh?07:35
mwereally?07:35
speyerwhats utc ?07:35
onkarshinde@now UTC07:36
UbugtuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: May 31 2006, 17:36:0607:36
crimsunspeyer: it's frozen, the pool is in release state.07:36
Kyral_FreeBSD@now EDT07:36
Kyral_FreeBSD...07:36
Kyral_FreeBSD@now EST07:36
UbugtuCurrent time in EST: May 31 2006, 12:36:2907:36
onkarshinde!utc07:36
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, onkarshinde07:36
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Kyral_FreeBSD..that should really have EDT....07:36
crimsunspeyer: until announced, it is not officially released07:36
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mheathspeyer, it's a universal time zone (based off GMT?)07:36
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czambranUTC is the same as GMT07:36
onkarshindeUTC is Universal Coordinated Time I guess07:36
speyerno its not07:36
Kyral_FreeBSDWed May 31 13:37:01 EDT 200607:36
speyerhere is 18:36 now07:37
czambranyes it is07:37
Kyral_FreeBSDthats the time EDT07:37
tuxtheslackercan I use gnomemeeting with windows users?07:37
void^utc = gmt - summer time07:37
tuxtheslackerand if so how?07:37
czambranhuh?07:37
Kyral_FreeBSD@now utc07:37
UbugtuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: May 31 2006, 17:37:2007:37
speyer:)07:37
amphispeyer: utc is the same as gmt07:37
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Kyral_FreeBSDspeyer: so you are UTC + 1 hour07:37
speyer18;37 here now so why utc doesnt match ?07:37
speyerohh07:37
speyerok07:37
amphispeyer: uk? bst07:37
pallyhowto use apt-get to update the packages rather than dselect?07:37
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NoUseguys, theh timezone chat should be in #ubunt-offtopic07:37
Kyral_FreeBSDso 0530 UTC would be 0630 your time07:37
amphibst is gmt+107:37
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speyerso it wouldnt be available after twelve ?07:37
onkarshindespeyer: Set preferences of your clock in Breezy and check 'UTC'07:37
Kyral_FreeBSDpally: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:38
kspath_speyer: maybe after 23:59 UTC07:38
Kyral_FreeBSDonkarshinde: jeez there is a much faster way07:38
speyeronkarshinde why ?07:38
czambranUTC IS the same as GMT07:38
czambranhttp://www.dxing.com/utcgmt.htm07:38
pallyKyral_FreeBSD thank07:38
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Kyral_FreeBSDspeyer: drop to a commandline and run "date -u" to get the time in UTC07:38
casanova_Oh SHIT that's funny! They say that Yeah, you can run a Flash player on a 64 -bit computer -- you just need to get a 32 -bit browser and put the Flash player there :DDD07:38
speyerkspath_ tell me when about in my time here ;)) please07:38
blue-froghas anyone ever created an .ifo file from a .vob file, pls?07:38
Kyral_FreeBSDspeyer: I did07:38
mweonkarshinde: do you know if there is any reason for the 5:30 am UCT release time?07:38
onkarshindespeyer: So that you will know at what exact moment Dapper is released ;-)07:38
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Kyral_FreeBSDspeyer: to get your time add one hour to the UTC time07:38
Kyral_FreeBSDspeyer: hence UTC + 107:39
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SurfnKidCasanova last time I used that language I got in trouble :P07:39
onkarshindemwe: I don't know. May be for syncing of mirrors07:39
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speyerKyral_FreeBSD so it will be available after 23:59:59 :) right ?07:39
mweonkarshinde: maybe so.07:39
Kyral_FreeBSDspeyer: around 063007:39
czambranno no07:39
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onkarshindecasanova_: If you are brave enough, pull gnash from cvs and try compiling. Very preliminary work though.07:40
speyerczambran what no no ?07:40
Kyral_FreeBSDWed May 31 13:40:23 EDT 200607:40
Kyral_FreeBSDdamnit07:40
dorkomatHi. The new ati-fglrx-drivers don't work :-( What now?07:40
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speyer:007:40
czambranspeyer GTM is the same as UTC07:40
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Kyral_FreeBSDspeyer: run in a terminal "date -r"07:40
maikelhola   maria me he conectado07:40
Kyral_FreeBSD!es07:40
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:40
speyerczambran got that the first time07:40
czambranin a little over 6 hours07:40
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kspath_!tell maikel about es07:41
Kyral_FreeBSDI think we are confusing him07:41
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maikelhola   maria me he conectado07:41
Kyral_FreeBSDToo many cooks in the kitchen anyone07:41
TrendKi||at what time will dapper be officially released?07:42
speyerKyral_FreeBSD my time is set up right ... all i wanted to know is if dapper will be available after 23:59 tonight time zone "gmt"07:42
kspath_maikel: solamente ingles07:42
Kyral_FreeBSDmaikel: Yo no hablo espanol07:42
xanavimis there a way to put both of my wireless hubs into the /etc/network/interfaces file, so it will use whichever one it finds?  it's a royal pain switching the connection, takes about five minutes07:42
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Kyral_FreeBSDDamn I hope I got that right07:42
czambranhttp://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/18207:42
kspath_maikel: /join #ubuntu-es07:42
onkarshindexanavim: install network-manager07:42
Kyral_FreeBSDIts been like 6 or 7 years since I took spanish lol07:42
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Kyral_FreeBSD!dapper07:42
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then07:42
Kyral_FreeBSDsomeoen put the release time in the topic07:42
maikelme guiere contesta07:42
Kyral_FreeBSDthis is getting annoying07:42
kspath_maikel: /join #ubuntu-es07:43
zcat[1] Thu Jun  1 05:38:08 NZST 200607:43
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humboltcan you believe that! instead of fixing their software, MS wants to cash off with selling their own virus scanning software?!07:43
zcat[1] hmm....07:43
speyerKyral_FreeBSD :))07:43
RajUTC 5:30am07:43
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Kyral_FreeBSDWhich is... 1:30 AM EDT07:43
humboltif anything is politically uncorrect, this is!07:43
czambranRaj, what do u mean?07:43
gorthaughi, i've a problem with php5-mysql & apache2 & mysql5. When i try to use the function mysql_connect(), it says me that this function is undefined, but with php4-mysql its works!07:43
Kyral_FreeBSD12:30 AM EST07:43
amphihumbolt: just yer standard abusive monopoly ;)07:43
Kyral_FreeBSD23:30 CST07:43
Kyral_FreeBSD22:30 MST07:43
speyerKyral_FreeBSD what would that be GMT ?07:43
RajUbuntu release time UTC 5:30am Jun 1st07:43
czambranRaj, no07:44
Kyral_FreeBSD21:30 PST07:44
mweKyral_FreeBSD: nobody seems to read /topic anyway :)07:44
RajUTC is nthng but GMT07:44
czambranRaj, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/18207:44
Kyral_FreeBSDspeyer: we told you like 6 times07:44
humboltThey will go down, like the fu*king roman empire.07:44
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amphiRaj: well, it's Greenwichless gmt ;)07:44
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Kyral_FreeBSDSince when has being policically correct been fun?07:44
czambranGo here for a clock07:44
speyerKyral_FreeBSD aight .. got it07:44
czambranhttp://www.k3dn.org/java/java%20clock/clock.htm07:44
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czambranspeyer, this might help u07:44
czambranhttp://www.k3dn.org/java/java%20clock/clock.htm07:44
Kyral_FreeBSDoy07:45
Kyral_FreeBSDyou can always get the time in GMT/UTC by running "date -u" in a terminal07:45
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kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: Please do not bring simplicity or logic into this.07:46
czambranhuh??07:46
czambrankspath_, what do u mean?07:46
kspath_czambran: man sarcasm07:46
mwekspath_: lol07:46
czambrankspath_,  oops!07:46
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czambranwhen u r multitasking07:46
Kyral_FreeBSDczambran: peopel were telling someone to adjust thier on screen clock to UTC to see UTC time when all you have to do is run "date -u" in a terminal07:46
RobNycctothej, u got XGL ?07:47
Kyral_FreeBSDie, easy as can be07:47
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speyerczambran well then ... there shows UTC 18:46 and local 19:46 but local its not right .. its 18:46 which its the right time ,,, so why does it say in that link local 19:46 ?07:47
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klaxiani'm trying to set up a MS Exchange account in Evolution, but the configuration parameters don't show up...any ideas?07:47
mwespeyer: well it's 17:46 UTC07:47
czambranspeyer, the UTC time is correct07:47
onkarshindeShyne: there?07:47
Kyral_FreeBSDspeyer: what time is it07:47
amphispeyer: what's your bios clock set to? if it's set to localtime and you have your TZ set correctly, date will show you BST+!07:47
amphier, BSt+107:47
klaxianit works fine on my other computer, but this one has problems07:47
Kyral_FreeBSDspeyer: what does your clock say, on the wall07:48
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czambranjejeje07:48
Kyral_FreeBSDspeyer: hell your wristwatch07:48
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czambranlol07:48
Kyral_FreeBSDthis is really getting.....annoying07:48
revmouselol07:48
Kyral_FreeBSDhow fscking hard is it to tell time!!07:48
speyerKyral_FreeBSD 18:47 man which is right07:48
czambranit is07:48
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mwespeyer: learn to read a clock. it says 17:46 UTC at that page07:48
revmouseSome people need sundials..07:48
czambranpretty hard it seems07:48
swarmzThe countdown to 6.06 is in progress!07:48
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swarmzwoohoo07:48
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revmouseWhat time does dapper come out if I'm using a sundial to tell time? :P07:48
Kyral_FreeBSDswarmz: I'm warning you, for about a week the servers will be swamped07:48
amphispeyer: is your hw clock set to gmt/utc or localtime?07:49
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speyermwe NOOO is says 18:46 thats what i can see and i can read the god damm clock07:49
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swarmzwe need a bittorrent based apt!07:49
speyeramphi gmt07:49
Some_PersonOk, I can get on the internet.07:49
czambranspeyer, we are just messing with you07:49
Some_PersonBut I can't get off the internet.07:49
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czambrandon't get upset07:49
speyertimezone set to GMT london07:49
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mweczambran: can you provide a link to a digital watch instead? people don't know how to read regular clocks :)07:49
speyermwe yeah very funny07:50
Some_PersonIs there a program that can connect/disconnect at the press of a button?07:50
Rajwww.clocklink.com07:50
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czambranmwe, lol07:50
amphispeyer: what does ls -l /etc/localtime show the symlink pointing to?07:50
swarmzcouldn't they have released it midnight on the first country that experiences midnight for that day? :)07:50
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speyeramphi im not logged into a linux machine now07:50
mwespeyer: what does your terminal output if you type date -u?07:50
czambranswarmz, just imagine the confusion that would have created. People don't even know what GMT/UTC is07:50
czambranpeople, speyer got it07:51
revmouseswarmz, I worked on a libtorrent based package manager last year07:51
amphispeyer: that's handy07:51
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czambranhe know already when it Dapper will be released07:51
speyerczambran :)07:51
Some_PersonIs there a program that can connect/disconnect my modem at the press of a button?07:51
swarmzi have episode2 of hl2 to play tomorrow and windows is on dual boot. :(07:51
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Some_PersonTo connect, I run wvdial in terminal07:51
swarmzrevmouse: is it being developed regularly?07:51
revmouseswarmz, not anymore :)07:51
swarmz:( shame07:51
swarmzit would have rocked07:51
Some_PersonTo disconnect, I restart the computer (any alternatives)07:51
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revmouseswarmz, the whole distro was based around it, but I fell in love with ubuntu07:51
klaxiananyone use exchange through evolution?  i'm having a problem setting up the account07:52
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YokaloshI'm having problems installing NVidia driver. I got a disk with my motherboard which has the drivers on it. I used 'uname -r' to get the kernel and downloaded the kernel headers etc. I then tried to run the installer for the drivers and it said the kernel had been compiled with gcc-3.4 and i had gcc-4.0 so i ignored this and continued. the installer then told me that 'nvidia.ko' (or something like that) couldn't be installed because 07:52
Some_PersonJust use the VESA driver07:52
swarmzi think my next project needs to be getting hl2 working on ubuntu07:52
swarmzdoes 6.06 come with better codec support? and popular browser plugins like flash coming by default?07:53
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Kyral_FreeBSDYokalosh: install GCC-3.407:53
Some_PersonIs there a program that can connect/disconnect my modem at the touch of a button?07:53
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RajI saw beta with flash plugin07:53
Kyral_FreeBSDswarmz: Flash cannot for legal reasons, as always07:53
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zcat[1] Yokalosh: just apt-get install nvidia-glx07:53
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Some_PersonIf not, can someone write one for me? :)07:53
Kyral_FreeBSDsame with most codecs07:53
lastnodeSome_Person, what is your modem?07:53
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Some_PersonConnexant07:53
scifii think i deleted all my files from download directory yesterday, and now that ive rebooted i have no wallpaper :P07:53
amphiSome_Person: you can set up a button on gkrellm to do it, probably others07:53
Kyral_FreeBSDswarmz: however, libxine-extracodecs in multiverse should do you just fine07:53
Yokaloshzcat[1] : will that driver work with the nvidia geforce 6100?07:54
swarmzKyral_FreeBSD: then why not provide a "setup" system that gets it from apt after install?07:54
chaos_of_apocalywhat programming language would you people recommend me to do mostly internet programs?comunication programs,etc...i would prefer a simple but complete language07:54
swarmzthat would be cool07:54
Some_PersonWhat is gkrellm?07:54
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speyersee you later07:54
Kyral_FreeBSDswarmz: Its called EasyUbuntu07:54
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jbroomeSome_Person: disk/cpu/network monitor07:54
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zcat[1] Yokalosh: sorry, add multiverse first, apt-get update then apt-get install nvidia-glx...07:54
zcat[1] should do..07:54
Shyneonkarshinde: you are correct - it worked, but after i logged in it was no longer working07:54
Some_PersonI need a disconnector to get off the internet, not a monitor!07:54
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scifianyone kno that wallpaper is called, it has a tree in the left hand-side and its done in a real stylish, silhouette style07:55
swarmzmost of us are using ubuntu at work as our development platforms :)07:55
zcat[1] basically if nvidia-glx doesn'twork, nothing else will.07:55
onkarshindeShyne: For your reference https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup?highlight=%28bluetooth%29#head-bee296c661c86538ace528645fa6d5ff66ccaffc07:55
zasfHi all07:55
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Yokaloshzcat[1] : this leads to the next problem, i also need the nvidia network drivers for my nforce which are on the same disk07:55
Shyneah great !07:55
Kyral_FreeBSDzasf: before you ask Dapper is coming out 5:30 AM UTC :P07:55
Some_PersonWhta day?07:55
Kyral_FreeBSDTomorrow07:55
Kyral_FreeBSDJune 1st07:56
Some_Personcool07:56
zasfKyral_FreeBSD: nice07:56
Some_PersonI'm gonna order it through ShipIt07:56
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zasfso I can go eat now07:56
Kyral_FreeBSDAnd if you ask what time that means in your TZ I will smack you07:56
Yokaloshzcat[1] : i have specific drivers for both but i can't use them because it gives me the error that i am using the wrong kernel source when infact i'm not and also i can't get gcc-3.4 as its not on my install disk for ubuntu07:56
zcat[1] afaik nvidia only have one 'linux driver' that supports all their cards ..07:56
chaos_of_apocalyis python a nce internet language?07:56
jbroometcp/ip is a nice internet language07:56
Some_PersonCan't you just release it now?07:56
Kyral_FreeBSD....07:56
madewokherdchaos_of_apocaly: it's a nice general-purpose language..07:56
Kyral_FreeBSDSome_Person: No offense but that is lkike 100th time I have heard that today07:56
KrpanoKyral_FreeBSD , what would be in my TZ (Zurich)....?..:P07:56
nico__hi! can any1 suggest me a word processor like wordpad in windows?07:57
zcat[1] For network drivers I don't know.. that's a bit of a curly one. Personally if I get an unsupported chipset I just throw another network card in, I have a dozen spare cards that do work with linux, it's not worth messing with one that doesn't..07:57
Kyral_FreeBSDSome_Person: So go ahead and ask it, but expect me to smack you07:57
spikebnico__, abiword07:57
Some_PersonNow, about my modem...07:57
GazzaKKyral_FreeBSD, yeah, release it now :p07:57
Kyral_FreeBSD....07:57
chaos_of_apocalywhat would you recommend me for internet based programs????07:57
swarmznice_: openoffice?07:57
revmousenico__, abiword is a lightweight word processor07:57
Some_PersonHow do I get off the internet with it?07:57
Kyral_FreeBSDchaos_of_apocaly: PHP07:57
swarmznico_: openoffice?07:57
onkarshindenico__: What do you mean by 'like wordpad' what functionality do you expect?07:57
mweKyral_FreeBSD: provide this link to people as well, saying GMT=UTC: http://jasper.he.net/~beagle/Server/JavaClock.shtm :)07:57
madewokherdchaos_of_apocaly: python07:57
swarmzwhat's wrong with Text Pad anyway?07:57
Rajnico, Gedit07:57
revmouseRaj, lol07:57
Kyral_FreeBSDor GVim :P07:57
nico__i just expect bold, underline, colours. stop07:57
zcat[1] Some_Person: it's practically released - go ahead and install the RC, there's minimal difference :)07:57
Kyral_FreeBSDnico__: GEdit07:57
Some_Persongedit07:58
Kyral_FreeBSDnico__: or KEdit in KDE07:58
nico__gedit don't allow bolding07:58
onkarshindenico__: abiword07:58
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swarmzoh man coders who use vim should be shit07:58
Yokaloshzcat[1] : it would work if i could get the driver to compile, but it seems the ubuntu kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4 and i can only get 4.007:58
swarmzshot07:58
chaos_of_apocalycan you tell me where i can get good python tutorials??07:58
Kyral_FreeBSD....07:58
amphiswarmz: why?07:58
crimsunchaos_of_apocaly: diveintopython is installed07:58
Kyral_FreeBSDswarmz: you do know what you are brining on yourself07:58
scifii cant believe it allowed me to delete the image if it was in use by the desktop :cc07:58
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Yokaloshzcat[1] : i guess i'll use an old network card, get the stuff and then use my new one :)07:58
Kyral_FreeBSDIGNITE THE EDITOR WAR !! :P07:58
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swarmznah i don't mean it, hunger must be affecting me07:58
Some_PersonNow, how do I get off the internet without restarting the computer?07:59
amphiheh07:59
Kyral_FreeBSDGood boy :P07:59
kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: eat my vim!07:59
Kyral_FreeBSDkspath_: I use Vim :P07:59
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swarmzalthough i don't see the point of using it to develop on when you have development servers07:59
amphiSome_Person: killall pppd should do it ;)07:59
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revmouseKyral_FreeBSD, I like MS-DOS Editor myself :P07:59
kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: eat my nvi!07:59
Kyral_FreeBSDkspath_: I'm coding in Vim right now :P07:59
amphiSome_Person: or poff, that's what I use07:59
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gilianimaIs it possible to install Ubuntu on an old G3 Mac using an USB memory card07:59
Some_Personok07:59
gilianima?07:59
zcat[1] Yokalosh: I think you just export CC=gcc-3.4 in your shell and then compile.. perhaps apt-get install gcc3.4  first if you really don't have it.07:59
Kyral_FreeBSDswarmz: "Development Servers"?07:59
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onkarshindeSome_Person: what type of internet is it?07:59
Some_PersonCan someone write me a quicky program with 2 buttons?07:59
swarmzyeah, as opposed to developing on a live server and keeping your code there08:00
zcat[1] Some_Person: how did you get on? I find pulling the plug to be fairly reliable..08:00
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Some_PersonDialup08:00
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mwegilianima: can it boot from a usb stick?08:00
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Krpanooh no08:00
Kyral_FreeBSDswarmz: I fail to see the connection. Vim is an editor08:00
Kyral_FreeBSDjust an editor08:00
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Some_PersonTo get on, I type wvdial in terminal.08:00
gilianimamwe: I don't know actually, how to know ?08:00
swarmzKyral_FreeBSD: on a live server you don't usually install gui applications, which means you could only develop in vim or similar command line applications08:00
Some_Personor open a launcher to wvdial on my desktop08:01
amphiSome_Person: I used pppconfig, so I just do pon foo & poff08:01
Kyral_FreeBSDswarmz: I use Vim even on something with a GUI08:01
onkarshindeSome_Person: 'poff your_service_provider' is the command.08:01
mwegilianima: can you get to some can of boot menu like the bios on a PC?08:01
swarmzexactly! why?08:01
zcat[1] Some_Person: what they said :)08:01
onkarshindeSome_Person: in case of wvdial just Ctrl+c should work08:01
amphiswarmz: I use vim for mail composition ;)08:01
Kyral_FreeBSDswarmz: because its quick and efficient and I know how to use it nicely?08:01
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swarmzwhy not embrace the gui editors that do stuff like auto complete, nice indentation etc08:01
Kyral_FreeBSDswarmz: ever hear "If it ain't broke don't fix it"08:02
amphizcat[1] : that's alomost worthy of bash.org...08:02
Kyral_FreeBSDswarmz: Vim does identation :P08:02
Kyral_FreeBSDas does Emacs :P08:02
kspath_swarmz: vim can have gui if you want it so badly.08:02
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zAo^what is the other workaround for the XGL shift+backspace-kill?08:02
amphiswarmz: vim does folding too08:02
swarmztry a gui editor!08:02
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Kyral_FreeBSD(me uses both Vim and Emacs as the mood or computer strikes him08:02
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amphizAo^: the dontzap option08:02
swarmzauto complete so you don't have to use short variable names!08:02
mweKyral_FreeBSD: vim 7 supports code completion, doesn't it?08:02
zcat[1] amphi: ouch. I see what you mean :)08:02
gilianimamwe: i don't know... actually, my cd drive doesn't recognize the ubuntu dapper install cd08:02
Kyral_FreeBSDmwe: I don't know i don't use the feature08:03
amphizcat[1] : heh08:03
rskwhen i reconfigure my locales to have isolatin i get..08:03
swarmzdrop down menus for jumping to method / function / class declarations08:03
rskError: Bad entry 'ISO-8859-15 '08:03
zAo^amphi, thanks, but where can I find some info? forums?08:03
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mweKyral_FreeBSD: I think it does08:03
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rskwhats the "correct" name fore that?08:03
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mwegilianima: can it boot from a cd?08:03
Kyral_FreeBSDswarmz: Why? Small Compact VarNames are good practice08:03
gilianimamwe: but my mac laptop recognizes it08:03
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amphizAo^: dunno, I don't use xgl08:03
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gilianimamwe: it should08:03
Some_PersonI got it08:03
Some_Personits "killall wvdial"08:03
gilianimamwe: is there another way to install ubuntu than from a cd ?08:03
Kyral_FreeBSDswarmz: I should warn you, I am a Commmandline Commando :P08:03
zAo^amphi: thanks, found something on the forums08:03
mwegilianima: odd then. you should of course use the right install cd, but I guess you are08:03
zcat[1] I can use vi if I really have to..08:04
mawaI run ubuntu on an older powermac g4 and i cant seem to access the capture controls/get microphone to work in alsa. known problem?08:04
kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: apparently some think 50-300 character varnames are great.08:04
gilianimamwe: my computer works with internet08:04
Kyral_FreeBSDkspath_: and they should be SHOT08:04
zcat[1] sudo ifdown ppp0 would probably work too..08:04
gilianimamwe: and runs on mac os08:04
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mwegilianima: you need to boot somehow. netinstall is also possible it can netboot08:04
amphiKyral_FreeBSD: indeed08:04
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kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: perhaps, I like varnames that are long enough but not long for the sake of silliness.08:04
Some_Personcan someone write me a quicky program: 2 buttons: one says Connect and does the command "wvdial08:04
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gilianimamwe: how to netboot ?08:04
rskError: Bad entry 'ISO-8859-15 '08:04
rskwhats the "correct" name fore that?08:04
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WimSI just did an dist-upgrade to dapper that seemed to go without any problems except for one. ndiswrapper seem to not work any longer. my wlan0 alias seem to be gone, i have installed the driver and the eth0 is available. The only thing i need (i believe) is the wlan0 alias. How do i get this ?08:05
Some_Personthe other is labeled Disconnect and does the command "killall wvdial"?08:05
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Kyral_FreeBSDhell I have a varible in my program that I'm working on right now called "DESTINATIONADDR" and I consider that long08:05
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mwegilianima: I don't know if you even can on that machine. on my IBM laptop I just press esc at boot and choose net boot08:05
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zcat[1] Some_Person: check apt,I think there'sa dozen programs that do that already..08:05
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kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: that was is likely long enough unless it could be confused with another.08:05
Kyral_FreeBSDkspath_: DESTADDR could prolly suffice08:05
kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: agreed08:05
Kyral_FreeBSDThen again like half my code winds up ebing comments :P08:06
mwegilianima: are you using the right install cd?08:06
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Kyral_FreeBSDHow many seconds in an hour...08:06
kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: 60*6008:06
mwe==360008:07
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Kyral_FreeBSDty08:07
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Krpanois it out yet ?  :D08:07
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Some_Personlol08:07
kspath_!tell Krpano about dapper08:07
Kyral_FreeBSD...*SMACK*08:07
Krpanomauhauha08:07
gilianimamwe: sure, it boots on my other mac08:08
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gilianimamwe: the netboot should work on that machine, i'm testing it08:08
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Mysta_hey guys, when i run the top command from the terminal how do I determine how much 'load' my 4 processors are taking on???08:08
gilianimamwe: but what address shall i give ?08:08
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kspath_Mysta_: top? htop?08:08
mwegilianima: and it's not intel based, the other one?08:08
gilianimamwe: where would it boot from08:09
gilianimamwe: no, the other one is an ibook08:09
mwegilianima: you need to read a howto. you install a pxe server on the other machine and boot to that08:09
Mysta_kspath_: i am running TOP and I'm not sure if the info provided tells me about the individual processors08:09
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Some_PersonCan someone write me a quicky program: 2 buttons: one says Connect and does the command "wvdial"; the other is labeled Disconnect and does the command "killall wvdial"?08:09
scifiis it possible to find out what the previous filename of my desktop image was ??08:10
Kyral_FreeBSDSorry I don't know GUI programming08:10
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gilianimamwe: can i install a pxe on my ubuntu now ? (which is intel laptop)08:10
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onkarshindeSome_Person: Why don't you just create launchers?08:10
Some_PersonDoes anyone?08:10
Some_Persongood idea08:10
Dunnixwhats the command to get root to work again?08:10
Some_Personwhy didn't i think of that08:10
onkarshindeSome_Person: Right click on desktop08:10
Some_Personsudo08:10
mweSome_Person: yes. in python I guess I could. why not just create two desktop shorcuts though?08:10
Some_Personi know how08:10
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Dunnixroot disabled by default how do you enable it?08:11
NoUse!tell Dunnix about root08:11
mweDunnix: sudo passwd root. not recommended though08:11
gilianimamwe: it seems to complicated08:11
mweDunnix: just use sudo -i to get a root prompt08:11
gilianimamwe: I've got to find an easier solution to have ubuntu on that machine08:12
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mwegilianima: try to find out why it wont boot the cd08:12
Some_Personmwe: could you make that quicky program? (easier than shortcuts)08:13
mweSome_Person: it not easier :)08:13
Some_Personok08:13
Some_Personu dont have to08:13
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lastnodemwe, we dont advocate that command (your earlier one) in #ubuntu, generally08:14
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pawsilverHi there can anyone help me?  Edubuntu doesn't want to load on my pc???  Its a brand new P4 Asus MB and an ATA serial HDD, it loads the live version and when i click on install it goes through the 1st screens and when it hits partitioning drives it hangs???08:15
lastnodemwe, the people who are experienced enough to know usually know it anyway08:15
mwelastnode: I know that's why I said not recommended08:15
lastnodemwe, we usually dont even say it, just so you know :)08:15
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mwelastnode: I'll keep it a secret in the future then :)08:15
lastnode;-)08:15
defunktdoes anyone know why whenever i use any one my 100 ubuntu cd's (not kidding) it says it is missing lib4-udeb ?08:15
sugoruyohi can someone help with a couple of problems [probably involving hardware detection] ?08:16
lastnodedefunkt, when does this happen?08:16
lastnode!ask08:16
ubotuFor information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:16
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NoUsepawsilver what version?08:16
defunktduring install08:16
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defunktwhen it is copying the files.08:16
lastnodesugoruyo, go ahead08:16
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sugoruyoi'm using flight7 and i have some audio and video issues08:16
LordElphjust a quickie: I can't wait until tomorrow! Is the version of Dapper Drake on the mirrors (dated 24th May) the same release as will be available for the big launch tomorrow?08:16
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scifianyone know any other good wallpaper sites other than gnome.art and gnome-look ?08:16
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sugoruyoaudio volume won't change no matter what i do...08:16
hura!ati08:16
ubotu[ati]  http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:16
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iGamascifi deviantart08:16
sugoruyoand the screen brightness won't adjust08:16
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sugoruyoi'm on a laptop08:16
rockzmanHow do I set my Ubuntu to run BlackBox instead of Gnome at login?08:16
sugoruyoa vaio08:16
lastnodesugoruyo, what is the model?08:17
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sugoruyoVGN-FS215S08:17
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NoUserockzman it should appear in the session dropdown once its installed08:17
onkarshinderockzman: At the time of login you should be able to select it from some list down there08:17
scifiiGama: TY! i think this is where i got my missing wallpaper image from08:17
RobNyc!mpe08:17
ubotuRobNyc: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:17
RobNyc!mp308:17
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:17
scifii recognize it08:17
gnomefreakrockzman: on the log in screen choose sessions than choose blackbox and set it as default it will opent hat each time08:17
iGama;)08:17
lastnodesugoruyo, look for your model here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam08:17
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rockzmangnomefreak: k let me check08:17
Harold_PI wodner if this thing can run ubuntu.... http://users.win.be/ws200167/minibook.jpg08:17
SCAN_ManOne more day until Dapper!!! :)08:18
SCAN_Man!Dapper08:18
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then08:18
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SCAN_ManYay!!!! :)08:18
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GazzaKnot till then, argh :)08:18
thomashello there08:18
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GazzaKthats less than five hours here :)08:18
BuzzBlasterAny way to install 6.06 from live cd with a text mode install -- no X server or framebuffer?  The kernel option debian-installer/framebuffer=false does not work for me.08:18
GazzaKhello thomas08:18
iGamaGazzaK buts it gmt time :)08:18
sugoruyoalso i try to use anjuta IDE and it says glib is missing08:18
iGamai think08:18
thomashello Gazzak08:19
RobNycsudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 31 17:56:25 200608:19
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KrpanoGMT ?....:D08:19
sugoruyocan i do something about that?08:19
RobNycwtf08:19
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GazzaKiGama, thats good then, as so am I08:19
iGamame 2 :p08:19
thomas:-)08:19
GazzaKKrpano, Greenwich Mean Time (London Time)08:19
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iGama+0 hours :)08:20
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Krpanolol08:20
hurahey guys 9250 ati pci graphics card should work right?08:20
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Krpanoi cant wait that much08:20
GazzaKGreenwich is a lovely bit of London...08:20
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scifiwhen the "big" day comes tomorow, will i have to re-install my apps once ive updated to dapper ?08:20
eggzeckhura, yes it will08:21
iGamaportugal this side :p08:21
pawsilverNoUse, hi its beta version 808:21
soundrayRobNyc: reboot in recovery mode and delete /var/run/sudo/robnyc08:21
lastnodescifi, nope :) ubuntu will do that all for you. just upgrade and sit back08:21
lastnode;-)08:21
scifixcellent08:21
NoUsepawsilver I'd try a more recent install CD08:21
huraeggzeck, I meant with fglrx08:21
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NoUsepawsilver it'll be final tomorrow08:21
huraor whatever its called08:21
RobNycty soundray08:21
eggzeckhura, yes, I have a 925008:21
hurasweet thanks08:21
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eggzeckhura, if you need help, don't hesitate to ask.08:22
zerby_can i ask a newbie question?08:22
huraeggzeck, thanks man08:22
soundrayzerby_: NO!08:22
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soundrayzerby_: of course you can.08:22
Krpanoehehe08:22
zerby_soundray: makes zerby sad08:22
soundray!ask08:22
ubotuFor information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:22
zerby_lol08:22
ciruzzohow to install a .exe prog with wine and how can I start it?08:22
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zerby_on the ubuntu desktop08:22
avalostanyone have any idea as to why my wget hangs using 'update-flashplugin'?08:22
scifidoes anyone know of UK laptop sellers who dont pre-install XP ?08:22
zerby_starting a root programm08:22
kspath_!tell ciruzzo about wine08:22
gnomefreakciruzzo: wine file.exe08:22
zerby_oops i will ask in one sentence08:23
pawsilverDo you think it will sort the probelm out?  Because I also tried the old stable release 10.05 and it didn't work08:23
rockzmanhow do i access my mn it was to be08:23
CodeWarrior_hello folks, is there a repository that I could get some packages (without using apt-get), something like packages.debian.org ?08:23
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rockzmanhow do i access my mn it was to be by default on dock of gnome and it disappeared08:23
ciruzzognomefreak, kspath_ where does wine install it?08:23
rockzmanmsn*08:23
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bur[n] erCodeWarrior_: packages.ubuntu.com ;)08:23
krangAnyone kniow how I change my default media player from totem to mplayer?08:23
krangAnyone kniow how I change my default media player from totem to mplayer?08:23
zerby_on the ubuntu desktop starting a root prog, say networkprog, i will be asked for passwd, when i give passwd it will give an error08:23
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kspath_ciruzzo: /join #winehq08:23
ciruzzook08:23
Dunnixwhats the command to reload x?08:23
bur[n] erciruzzo: ~/.drive_c/08:23
CodeWarrior_bur[n] er: hehe thanks a lot guy08:24
bur[n] erDunnix: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart08:24
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Harold_PDunnix, ctrl + alt + backsapce08:24
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bur[n] erCodeWarrior_: np08:24
soundrayzerby_: are you entering your user password? Because that's what you should do.08:24
zerby_starting from the console with xhost +localhost a\nd: su no problem08:24
zerby_user passwd08:24
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zerby_mmm08:24
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zerby_the user i am tryingt o help has user=rootpasswd08:24
zerby_i mean she entered for root passwd the same as for user, soundray08:25
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soundrayzerby_: is she in the admin group? Check with 'groups'08:25
zerby_ok thats an idea08:25
zerby_i will take a note08:25
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CodeWarrior_is there anybody that runs AMD64 Dapper version ?08:26
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user_hola08:26
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zerby_tx for the idea soundray08:26
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user_hay alguien que hable en castellano?08:26
RobNyc_Csoundray, i dont see /var/run/sudo*08:27
kspath_!tell user_ about es08:27
soundrayzerby_: any time08:27
sugoruyowhat if my laptop is not there/08:27
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Dunnixshit i was trying to get the right resolution on my laptop and now i have an error saying "The application "gnome-panel" has quit unexpectedly08:27
rockzmanWhere are the BlackBox Setup files?08:27
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Warp2does anyone here backup movie DVDs with gnomebaker or anything similar? a windows friend just showed me dvddecrypter and I'd like to do something similar under linux08:27
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soundrayRobNyc_C: that's strange, because I do...08:27
user_hola08:27
kspath_!tell user_ about es08:27
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RobNyc_Csoundray, i booted in recovery mode and i dont see08:27
xukunMy x system crashes and reboots whithout no reason, I dont know where to start or to look for the reason why. this is one error I found, please take a look: http://pastebin.com/74948808:28
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NoUseWarp2 look into k9copy.sf.net08:28
Some_PersonMy launcher for disconnect doesn't work08:28
soundrayRobNyc_C: what's the time where you are?08:28
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RobNyc_Csoundray, America/New_York08:28
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Some_Personhow come "killall wvdial" won't work as a launcher08:28
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Warp2sorry can you repeat that? I pressed ctrl-c in x-chat and all heck broke loose :)08:29
_tmx_dt2hey can any1 help me mount my ntfs primary hard drive that i can't find ever since I BSOD safe mode or not.  thanks08:29
soundrayRobNyc_C: your problem will fix itself at about 5.56 pm.08:29
NoUse!tell Warp2 about k9copy08:29
Some_Personhow come "killall wvdial" won't work as a launcher08:29
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Kyral_FreeBSDAnyone know anything about passing Arrays in Bash scripts08:29
Warp2thanks!08:29
Some_PersonHello?08:29
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crimsunprobably because wvdial needs root privs to be killed?08:29
kspath_Kyral_FreeBSD: #bash08:29
rockzmanWhere are the BlackBox configuration files?08:29
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Some_Personoh08:29
Kyral_FreeBSDkspath_: good point08:30
RobNyc_Csoundray, it happens all the times the time gets later and later and later lol and in order for me to be able to sudo i gotta log out08:30
Some_Personi'll just slap on sudo08:30
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_tmx_dt2hey can any1 help me mount my ntfs primary hard drive that i can't find ever since I BSOD safe mode or not.  thanks08:30
soundrayRobNyc_C: your system clock is fast?08:30
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RobNyc_Csoundray, 3.0ghz ?08:30
Warp2k9copy compresses, though ... I don't want to reduce movie quality08:30
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xukunanybody , maybe some kind of log file that I can read?08:30
Some_Persondidn't work08:30
soundrayRobNyc_C: harhar, I mean your RTC08:30
rahonavis_tmx_dt2, have you considered doing a low level format of the drive and repartition it ?  sonuds like its not booting.08:31
Some_Personit works when i type it in terminal08:31
RobNyc_Csoundray, whats that08:31
NoUseWarp2 you'll need to unless you have DVD9s08:31
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Warp2I do have DVD9s :)08:31
Some_Personhow come i cant make it into a launcher?08:31
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soundrayRobNyc_C: never mind. Run ntpdate at regular intervals to prevent that problem.08:31
NoUseWarp2 then you can just copy the disc08:31
Warp2but most DVDs I have to copy are only 4gb anyway so I'd rather not compress08:31
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RobNycsoundray, it seems good now08:31
RobNyci hope it stays like that08:32
tat_does kubuntu has the same repositoris like ubuntu ?08:32
kspath_tat_: it is one distrobution08:32
NoUsetat_ yes08:32
_tmx_dt2where can do you buy double layer dvds?08:32
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Warp2tmx: I bought some from amazon.com <shrug>08:32
BugsQuestion:  If I do manual "apt-get update" or "apt-get upgrade"  does my SYNAPTIC stay in sync ?08:32
Warp2target sells them, too (more expensive)08:32
_tmx_dt2hrmm08:32
_tmx_dt2i suppose i'll try amazon ;o08:33
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rahonavisBugs, of course08:33
Warp2err, k9copy is kde ;)08:33
rahonavis_tmx_dt2, try www.meritline.com they might sell em08:33
Bugsrahonavis: cheers mate08:33
rahonavisnp :)08:33
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rahonavisdvd9's ridata brand $1.90 each at meritline.com08:34
pcphi folks 'n good evening08:34
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richardone08:36
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pcpcause i couldnt google any apropriate answer, i gotta ask here =)08:36
mweSome_Person: I made your program. it need python2.4-qt3 though08:36
zerby_soundray: i checked it in my ubuntu install (vmware) i added root to group > it seems to work08:36
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zerby_tx fro suggestion08:37
zerby_for08:37
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mirakis the alternate installer also a live cd ?08:37
_tmx_dt2hey can any1 help me mount my ntfs primary hard drive that i can't find ever since I BSOD safe mode or not.  thanks08:37
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richardhello08:37
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richardi need some help here08:37
pcpneed help to configure my breezy to switch my monitor in stanbymode (i am using only the console--> no gdm). right now the monitor just blanks out...08:37
pcpjust a little hint please =)08:38
seth__Hello everyone.08:38
Jimmey___tmx_dt2: are you trying to use a liveCD to get at the files?08:38
richardi download skipe , but i dont understand how to install it08:38
richardtoday is my second day on ubuntu08:38
seth__Me to08:38
seth__.08:38
zerby_lol ok08:38
NoUse!tell richard about skype08:39
zerby_there is a packagemanager08:39
zerby_you downloaded skypoe with that?08:39
richardok08:39
richard hold on...08:39
zerby_it should appear in internet menu08:39
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richard let me check08:39
zasfhi all08:39
seth__Hey08:39
zasfwhen is dapper released?08:39
zasfwhat time I mean?08:39
Jimmey__zasf: hey08:39
bur[n] er!topic08:39
Jimmey__!dapper08:39
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then08:39
MHobbitzasf: Unknown...08:39
bur[n] er10:00 am BST08:40
seth__2:37 PM EST.08:40
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zasfhere they say midnight GMT http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1073144&postcount=13008:40
NoUse!skype08:40
ubotuI guess skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/08:40
NoUserichard ^^^08:40
xukunI,m just browsing or I,m reading the mail and just sudenly x system restarts, its like I have pushed ctrl+alt+backspace. I have no idea what is going on or where to look08:40
richardthe file i d/load is skipe_1.2.0.18-2_1386.deb08:40
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mweSome_Person: so if you still want it I made that program with two buttons for you.08:40
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richardhello08:41
Jimmey__richard, hi08:41
zerby_moment richard08:41
richard jimmm, hi08:42
richard ok08:42
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zerby_richard: you mean skype or skipe?08:42
richard skype08:42
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richardskype08:42
richardits my first time usin linux08:43
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Tomcat__zasf: Same on the Ubuntu fridge08:43
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hura!ati08:43
ubotu[ati]  http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:43
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Jimmey__hura, try "/msg ubotu ati"08:44
NoUserichard did you get the link ubotu posted?08:44
richardthe file i d/load is on my desk top08:44
Jimmey__NoUse, I sent it to him privately08:44
huraJimmey__, I know...08:44
richardno08:44
MrErnstwhat can i use to get to choose between OS, i had ubuntu as main but no installed Windows on another partition and now it only starts with windows08:44
richard i didnt08:44
tarzeau5 hours for ubuntu 6.06 left?08:44
NoUse!skype08:44
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ubotuI heard skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/08:44
NoUserichard ^^^08:44
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richardthanks08:45
morten__is it possible to install midnight commander on ubuntu?08:45
Mysta_when i run the top command from the terminal how do I determine how much 'load' my 4 processors are taking on???08:45
zerby_ok Richard, yes i dont see it in the repositiry08:45
huraJimmey__, the entire reason ubotu is here to help people08:45
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mwemorten__: yes08:45
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zerby_richard: youve installed it?08:45
Jimmey__MrErnst: Grub is the package you need, and it installs with Ubuntu as default. To change it's settings you'll need to edit it's configuration file.08:45
morten__downloaded a package but it failed dependencies08:45
luis_do you think ubuntu will be released on midnight? or just tomorrow?08:45
zerby_dpkg -i skype...blabla08:45
mwemorten__: sudo apt-get install mc08:45
richardno08:45
riaati radeon 7500?08:45
richard i cant08:45
Jimmey__hura, yes, but you needn't show the channel something that only you need.08:45
zerby_ok, richard open console08:46
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zerby_alt + F208:46
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mwemorten__: enable universe though08:46
richard how do i do that08:46
zerby_xterm [enter] 08:46
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MrErnstJimmey, the problem is that windows starts, i don't even get to choose08:46
mwezerby_: I don't think xterm is installed by default08:46
zerby_MMM OK08:46
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Jimmey__MrErnst, did you install Windows after Ubuntu?08:46
zerby_i am not that familiar with ubuntu ;)08:47
richardi've mastered windows, but completely ignorant to linux08:47
MrErnst:-D08:47
richardlol08:47
MrErnstyes08:47
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mwezerby_: it is odd it's not installed by default I think though08:47
zerby_you know how to openb a concole, richard08:47
just_meHi, I'm a newbie on Ubuntu using, but I would like to use with the Live CD and save some script files08:47
Bugsrichard:  you'll never go back once you get use to this gem08:47
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kspath_Mysta_: man top  search for SMP08:47
morten__how do i enable universe?08:47
neoXitehi! does the mozilla-acroread plugin in dapper work for anyone?08:47
Flannel!tell MrErnst about dualboot08:47
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mwe!tell morten__ about universe08:47
richardthanke08:47
poningru_neoXite, use evince08:47
mwemorten__: read /msg from ubotu08:47
jorggneoXite, not for my08:48
jorggme08:48
richard i like it already08:48
zerby_richard: t should be possible08:48
zerby_alt + F208:48
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zerby_i checked08:48
zerby_type: xterm08:48
richardhow do u open 'console'08:48
zerby_enter08:48
zerby_richard:08:48
zerby_alt + F208:48
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Jimmey__!enter08:48
bur[n] er!enter08:48
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.08:48
richardok08:48
bur[n] er:)08:48
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richard got that08:48
zerby_sorry08:48
zerby_ok08:48
Bugsrichard:  i have used windows for ~ 15 years or more (win 3.11) - linux is the cat's meow my friend08:49
zerby_type in xterm: su08:49
richardlol08:49
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zerby_[enter] 08:49
zerby_no just do: su08:49
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Jimmey__richard, don't..08:49
=== bur[n] er wonders where zerby_ is going with this
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zerby_i am sorry Jimmey__08:49
Bugszerby_:  whats the difference between SU and SUDO ?08:49
mwezerby_: root login is disabled in ubuntu by default08:50
zerby_ok i am just ubuntu n00b08:50
zerby_ok:08:50
ferris_su changes you to superuser08:50
mweBugs: sudo runs one command as root. su lets you login as a different user08:50
zerby_sudo dpkg -i skype(completename)08:50
ferris_sudo doesn't08:50
FlannelBugs: Sudo keeps logs of everything, and only makes you root for one command08:50
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Bugsmwe:  oh...i see...so, using SU, as long as you are in that shell, you remain super user, no08:51
Bugs?08:51
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deltaHi.08:51
bur[n] erbetter yet richard... you can run "sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/sky<tab> and it should autofill in the name... it might be a capital S08:51
BugsFlannel: cheers mate08:51
ferris_hello delta08:51
mweBugs: sudo -i will give you a root shell but yes08:51
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kspath_Mysta_: if you want shiny graphics try http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html search for SMP08:51
zerby_maybe i better shut up08:51
zerby_;)08:51
ferris_just me check ubuntuguide.org08:51
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kspath_Mysta_: sudo apt-cache search gkrellm08:52
rugHowdy all08:52
riahelp ati radeon mobility m7 lw (radeon mobility 7500).08:52
deltaferris_: hey. Are you a dapper user?08:52
bur[n] erubuntuguide is crap08:52
mwe!ubuntuguide08:52
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, totally, badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.08:52
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bur[n] erria: what's the problem?08:52
ferris_nope, i use debian sid08:52
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HotDrivehello ppl08:52
g0dchildwhat command do i have to issue in order to enable bitmap fonts in xorg?08:52
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g0dchildi've already tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg....is there anything else i can try?08:53
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riamy englich is not gud , germann?08:53
Flannel!de08:53
kspath_!tell ria about de08:53
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de08:53
BugsEver since I upgraded to Drake, I don't get any sound in XCHAT anymore....what gives?08:53
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rugwith crontab; is it 'sensitive' to spacing? (ie 10 * * * /script vs 10     *     * /script)08:53
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Kyral_FreeBSDYou get sound out of XChat? Since when?08:53
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sebp!tell sebp about dapper08:54
mweBugs: do you hear sound at all?08:54
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BugsKyral_FreeBSD:  I used to get a beep....08:54
cgeRug: I don't believe so, but the man page would probably have information pertaining to that question.08:54
mwesebp: just /msg the bot. /msg ubotu <factoid>08:54
Rugcge: it doesn't help08:54
Bugsmwe:  yes...!  i think I accidently enable it LOL08:54
Kyral_FreeBSDWe should get Ubotu to automatically tell about dapper whenever he sees the string "When is dapper coming out"08:54
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deltaferris_: ok, sorry.08:54
kspath_Rug: your example was bad    you have 5 columns in first and 4 columns in second .08:54
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ferris_g0dchild, is this for your fonts?08:55
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g0dchildferris_, nope- trying to get xfonts-artwiz to work on fluxbox08:55
mweKyral_FreeBSD: ubotu could need a makeover in general08:55
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richardi'm a little confused.......08:55
cgeRug: I see. You can always just try some wierd sort of spacing with a test entry set to run a minute or so in the future to see if works.08:55
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jeanHi08:55
SurfnKidhey guys i got it! my ATI driver is installed, but I got a problem with the resolution08:55
richard lets start again08:55
morten__wow got it working thanks08:55
Bugsmwe:  do you have sound with this message ?08:55
TIIPOSsourceforge is being wierd08:55
xukundmesg is showing a lot of ERROR* locking memory at ... anybody know what that means08:55
TIIPOSI am trying to download this file http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=835108:55
richard i open the console..........08:55
Rugkspath_: sorry, I just didn't want to flood.  Should there be spaces or can I have TAB seperating the fields08:56
TIIPOSand I cannot find where to download it?08:56
ferris_delta, what issue are you having?08:56
SurfnKidits at 1024x768 and I need to set it for 1280x800 and It wont let me how can i figure that08:56
bur[n] errichard: eeasier way is to wait one day... upgrade to dapper, then you can just doubleclick the downloaded Skype installer ;)08:56
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kspath_Rug: man crontab ; man cron08:56
TIIPOSif you click on the download button it takes you to another page that doesn't let you download the file08:56
richardok08:56
mweBugs: huh? I don't use xchat. irssi doesn't beep on highlight by default08:56
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TIIPOSdo any of you know hwhere I can download Planescape for Linux?08:56
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Bugsmwe:  oic....sorry...08:56
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richardi d/load ubuntu 5.10 yesturday08:57
richardloved it so far08:57
mawaI run ubuntu on an older powermac g4 and i cant seem to access the capture controls or get the microphone to record any sound. any suggestions?08:57
richard and u r now tellin me a better one is out there08:57
Lord_IllidanYep08:57
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Lord_IllidanDapper is being released 2morow, infact08:57
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UNDERsoNhi everyone! don't you know when 6.06 would be released? ( sory for my English)08:57
Bugsrichard:  yes, upgrade to 6.0608:57
UNDERsoNups08:58
Lord_Illidan6.06 is being released 2morow08:58
richardok08:58
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hura!ati08:58
kspath_!tell UNDERsoN about dapper08:58
ubotuI heard ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:58
deltaferris_: an odd one :) First, I have various result with xubuntu when installing nvidia driver. Second, I was getting vfreq problem with my crt monitor when driver installation sucess: and there is a "fix" which I'll be happy to share among other user :)08:58
BugsUNDERsoN: shoude be June08:58
richard i sent for the cd.........08:58
richard but i'm way in jamaica08:58
stjepan!ide08:58
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, stjepan08:58
wulffHi . I  just upgraded to dapper drake, and now my network card freeze at start up. If i unplug and replug my network cable, i have network 1 minuet and then it freezes. Any suggestions how to fix this? Thanks08:58
stjepan!eclipse08:58
ubotuto install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE08:58
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RandolphCarterwulff: sky2?08:58
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BugsDrake is working brilliant for me ;)08:58
rubsoubuntu 6.06 should be released in about 4 hours ?08:59
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stjepando you know any good C/C++ IDEs with Autotools (autoconf) support?08:59
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graphi08:59
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tat_if i click on the help button in openoffice.org base i get an error that says "the help system could not be started" is there a package missing or something ?08:59
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Jimmey__tat_, yes - Search for "open office" in synaptic08:59
neoXiteso i just installed the dapper rc and encrypted all partitions with luks, can i just dist-upgrade on friday and happily walk away?08:59
ubuntu08:59
blaalysrubso, 5. GMT is one hour off from DST08:59
zOapI thought ndiswrapper was preinstalled on breezy? But I can't find it..08:59
kspath_tat_: else apt-cache search openoffice08:59
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BugsI have HAD IT with WINDOWS !!!!09:00
jgfigHi can anyone help me with this installation, It keeps restarting during the process of installing ubuntu but everytime I can install winXP09:00
jgfigdoes anyone know why?09:00
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ubuntulist09:00
BugsThat Windows Auth is KILLING ME!!!!09:00
grapi wanted to know if the ubuntu that is going to be realised tomorrow or next month in general, will have XGL defaultly!09:00
kspath_ /ignore grap09:00
Bugsjgfig: whats the matter mate ?09:00
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TIIPOSjsdlkjfldskfjsd09:00
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TIIPOSsorry about that09:01
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grapkspath_: why ignore?09:01
jgfigBugs im just chaning my name to [zero] 09:01
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UNDERsoNhe is angry man09:01
zerojust so you know09:01
grapd'oh09:01
grapany answer to my question?09:01
zeroI currently have nothing on my HDD whatso ever as I formatted it09:01
RandolphCartergrap: nope, no Xgl by default09:01
UNDERsoNlast hourz of breezy on this chanel as I understand09:02
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Bugszero: what is your issue when you try to install ?09:02
grapwhat a pitty XDD09:02
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zeroSo I tried to install ubuntu but the pc just restarts at random points of the instalation09:02
grapthanks RandolphCarter09:02
hura!tv out09:02
ubotuhura: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:02
TribaalHi all09:02
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zerobut whenever I install windows xp it doesnt09:02
grapbye09:02
zero;/09:02
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Krpanohow is called the next version of Ubuntu ?...after dapper09:02
ferris_grap did you delete the partitions?09:02
RandolphCartergrap: np's :) and not really a shame, hopefully by the time Eft comes out Xgl will be more stable09:02
TribaalKrpano -> Edgy Eft09:02
rubsoUbuntu 6.06 is going to be offered in Torrents, right?!09:02
Krpanothx09:02
Tribaalnp09:03
evanproTorrance, Redondo Beach, all over the South Bay09:03
Bugszero :  GET a new install CD ... that happened to me too - SO frustrating....I burned a new CD at a SLOWER speed (x 8) and it fixed everything09:03
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evanproEven Palos Verdes and El Segundo09:03
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zeroBugs iv only got CDRW's atm09:03
TribaalAnybody from Switzerland in here ('xept me of course) ?09:03
KrpanoME09:03
DSL_exit09:03
zeroand I have tried 2 versions of ubuntu09:03
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SurfnKidey Tribaal09:03
zero5.10 and 4.1009:03
zerohappens with both09:03
Bugszero what is "atm"09:03
SurfnKidnot really, but hows it going09:04
zeroat the moment09:04
zerosorry09:04
Bugszero - at the moment ?09:04
zeroyep09:04
TribaalSurfnKid -> Nice =)09:04
KrpanoTribaal , Im in CH...but im brazilian...:)09:04
Bugszero ; np, that should be fine...09:04
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SurfnKidTribaal its cold there right09:04
TribaalKrpano -> What city?09:04
TribaalNot that cld09:04
zeroAlright i'll get another disc make sure it isnt this one09:04
UNDERsoNSomebody from Ukraine or xUSSR is here?09:04
Tribaal*cold09:04
Bugszero: that is exactly what I used..no DVD, only CD09:04
KrpanoGeneva and u ?09:04
TribaalLol Geneva09:04
Bugszero :  but, write it at a slower speed, k?09:04
Krpanoeheheh09:04
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zeroalright09:04
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zerobrb09:05
SurfnKidhey you know emule Tribaal?09:05
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TribaalHow about an ubuntu realease party? =)09:05
Tribaalsure09:05
Bugszero: it frustrated me for hours until I found some obscure note on the net....09:05
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Krpanoif there is some hot girls...im on it..:)09:05
klerfaytwhat's the command to remove folder that is full09:05
SurfnKidi thought thats where the razorback server got nuked09:05
TribaalDamn I thought you'd bring the girls ;)09:05
SurfnKidsomewhere in SWITZ09:05
kspath_klerfayt: folder? full?09:05
PizbitKrpano: Always a good thought09:06
Lastinusi hear the ubuntu is released on 0day sites :P09:06
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Krpanoeheh09:06
trevordoes anyone here us SMB4K to mount samba shares?09:06
klerfaytkspath_: rmdir doesn't allow to remove if it contains some files09:06
sZ|omgOMG09:06
zeroBugs ahh09:06
KrpanoPizbit , always the first thought too..lol09:06
Pizbithehe09:06
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Bugszero wassup09:06
kspath_klerfayt: so you are refering to directories. man rm09:06
Lastinustrevor: i've tried SMB Fuse really cool :)09:06
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kspath_klerfayt: Be VERY careful with recursive options in commands though.09:07
zeroBugs shall i download the iso again or use the one i already have?09:07
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plbrelease teh dapper! =P09:07
Krpanoagreed09:07
Tribaalzero -> wait for a few hours and get the final dapper09:07
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Bugszero : you can probably use the same iso.  can you do a md5sum and check it ?09:07
trevorlastinus, is SMB Fuse a program?09:07
senicashi all - i am trying to assciate progs to file extensions - the "right click on file and add prog" approach doesn't work  - any ideas?09:07
zerok09:07
Bugszero : just in case ....09:07
nf4if I am useing the new ubuntu do I need to manualy install the nvidia drivers?09:07
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nf4 it seems they are working but i cant tell09:08
zerowhats different about the versions which are released??09:08
bruce89lots09:08
zeroas there is a new one today..09:08
nf4i like the draper drake or what ever it is called09:08
huraeggzeck, hey dude did you ever get the tv out working?09:08
nf4the RC is what I am useing now09:08
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bruce89http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta are the new things09:09
UNDERsoNNew version would be released by Africa time or by London?09:09
huraUNDERsoN, there is no time set09:09
TribaalGMT 0:0009:09
SubhumanI'm guessing gmt midnight09:09
brandon_the pirate bay was raided and shut down today09:09
plbcmon devs give the users an earlier present and release this biatch ;] 09:09
Tribaalso wherever you are in 5 hours from now09:09
rockzmanCan someone help ? I installed blackbox using synaptic where is blackbox configuration files?09:09
Bugsbrandon_:  wow...no kidding ?09:09
Krpanorelease Edgy Eft.09:09
nf4I am useing this one09:09
brandon_Bugs absolutely true09:09
nf4http://www.ubuntu.com/news/dapperrc09:09
Tribaalyeah pirate bay is gone... saw that on /.09:09
amphirockzman: ~/.blacboxrc or summt09:10
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klerfaytrm -d /usr/local/12f doesn't allow me to remove09:10
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Bugsbrandon_:  how did they do that .. not a usa company ???09:10
Krpanotoo bad....about TPB09:10
brandon_swedish police09:10
nf4they been down befor09:10
rockzmanamphi: none should i create ?09:10
TribaalSwedish police raided and seized servers =(09:10
nf4a few were hoaxes09:10
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Bugsbrandon_:  holy cow09:10
bruce89of cource, none of us need pirated software09:10
nf4I wonder if this is the real deal09:10
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brandon_how many otrrents used TPB as a tracker?09:10
Tribaalbut I guess they'll be up again sometime ;)09:10
Bugschecking digg :) for truth09:10
MTecknologybruce89, that's why we use linux09:10
xukunWhat is the release date for dapper?09:10
Krpanobruce89 , but we dl alot of porn09:10
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Krpano:D09:10
rockzmanamphi: none should i create ?09:10
Tribaal=)09:11
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MTecknologyxunu, tomorrow09:11
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TribaalDapper is release tonight at midnight GMT09:11
nf4do I need to install the nvidia drivers useing draper09:11
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estudianteshola09:11
Tribaalnf4 yeah09:11
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estudianteshola09:11
nf4ok09:11
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brandon_http://digg.com/technology/ThePirateBay.org_Raided_-_Servers_Seized09:11
nf4it seems differant than in brezy09:11
kspath_estudiantes: Students, solamente ingles09:11
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estudiantesno me van a responder09:11
anomyhey all by any chance does anyone know what ubuntu sets for the default root password on a newly installed server style syter?09:11
kspath_!tell estudiantes about es09:11
estudianteschao pescao09:11
amphirockzman: man blackbox will tell you the name of the file09:11
ArthasUbuntu sets a random password09:12
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nf4in brezy i could install the nvidia driver and the settings with this one it is one or the other09:12
anomywhere can i find it?09:12
rockzmanamphi: Where does it tells me ? 09:12
amphirockzman: I use openbox, haven't use bb for ages, so I forget09:12
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rockzmanamphi: i see is open lighter than bb?09:12
Flannelanomy: believe root password is disabled.09:12
amphirockzman: I don't have bb installed here09:12
andrejkwHey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png09:12
amphirockzman: no, it's a rewritten semi-clone09:12
ArthasAll you have to do is use sudo, anomy09:12
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BugsI knew DIGG would have that by now...!09:13
anomyso how do i log into root?09:13
zeroI hope I can get this ubuntu working within the next 4hours :)09:13
rockzmanamphi: whut is the diff then?09:13
ArthasYou don't09:13
kspath_rockzman: I have fluxbox and openbox and blackbox and ion3 and ... installed     just try them.09:13
TribaalYou don't need root password just use sudo instead09:13
zeroI bet my friend 1 i could haha09:13
Flannelanomy: sudo, you don't need to log into root.09:13
Flannel!tell anomy about root09:13
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Flannelyou can read about it from that link09:13
amphirockzman: do apt-cache show openobox09:13
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amphier, openbox09:13
Arthasroot is a bad idea09:13
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kspath_Arthas: root is a bad idea for very ignorant persons.09:14
amphirockzman: and compare with apt-cache show blackbox09:14
ruskie_http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload9/keft.png09:14
facundowhen will be ready the new ubuntu version09:14
ruskie_the error in the second console09:14
amphifacundo: later09:14
facundohow?09:14
ruskie_how do i get rid of that.. the fallback thingy09:14
kspath_!tell facundo about dapper09:14
huraanyone use 9250 ati radeon?09:14
Bugszero: are you installing on a laptop ?09:14
[zero] nah desktop09:14
Tribaalfacundo: Dapper is released at midnight GMT time09:14
Arthaskspath09:14
Arthasyes, but even if you are in the know, a mistake can set you back miles09:14
Arthaslike, an rm * .mp309:14
Arthasin the home directory09:14
Bugszero: what kind / spec's ?09:15
FlannelTribaal: I doubt that.  It'll be released sometime on june 1st.09:15
rockzmanamphi: im downloading to try09:15
rockzman:P09:15
facundook09:15
facundothnks09:15
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kspath_Arthas: Hence the point of my saying very ignorant persons.09:15
TribaalThat's right... at midnight GMT, it will be june 1st =)09:15
Tzygrr , can someone help my , yesterday I installed compiz whitout a problem, but in the gdm greeter I cant type '@' and other altgr combination, but in gnome I can (in sessions I have added setxkbmap) but how can I do this for the greeter? (belgium keyboard)09:15
ruskie_anyone?09:15
HackmoHey all, i'm having a problem with firefox09:15
TribaalFlannel: That's right... at midnight GMT, it will be june 1st =)09:15
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[zero] Bugs, its a pentium 3 not sure about much else :/09:15
Hackmoit won't load up because it says my profile is already in use09:15
SpecBugs: The good kind of /09:15
Hackmobut there is no instance of firefox running09:15
greyscaleHow do I get more than 1024x768 in dapper?09:15
ruskie_greyscale: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:16
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ruskie_greyscale: and restart x09:16
greyscaleruskie: where?09:16
Arthassudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:16
ruskie_greyscale: what?09:16
Hackmoanyone got any ideas?09:16
greyscaleI know that its that file. Just WHAT in it do I change it to?09:16
Arthasrun in a terminal : sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:16
Krpanohttp://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/18209:16
Flannel!tell greyscale about resolution09:16
ruskie_greyscale: there is no default conf09:16
klerfaytis it possible to scroll the text in "ctr+alt+f1" ?09:16
kspath_Hackmo: search engine search for the error09:16
MTecknologyI just installed a fresh copy of Dapper. It detected my wireless card, but I can't connect to a network with it. I installed the Wireless Assistant, and it won't detect my access point.09:16
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Flannelklerfayt: shift pageup/pagedown09:17
Hackmokspath: I can't, I can't access the web09:17
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greyscaleAwsome ^^09:17
greyscaleThahnks09:17
TzyArthas: no I have don that but it does not work09:17
rockzmanamphi: where do i download obconf09:17
rockzmanamphi: better interface :D09:17
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kspath_rockzman: apt-cache search obconf09:18
amphirockzman: apt-get install obconf doesn't work?09:18
Arthasor use synaptic instead09:18
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tuxtheslackerhey guys...09:19
kspath_rockzman: apt-cache search openbox09:19
tuxtheslackerpicasa now stopped working.09:19
rockzmankspath_: ty09:19
andrejkwHey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png09:19
tuxtheslackerI don't know why, could someone help me out09:19
tuxtheslacker?09:19
rockzmanamphi: o no man my amsn was configured to stay on gnome docks09:19
rockzmanamphi: how do i "unhide" it?09:19
tuxtheslackerI dind't change anything.09:19
amphirockzman: I know nothing of gnome docks09:19
tuxtheslackerthe program looks like it'll run, but then breaks.09:19
amphirockzman: or amsn for that matter09:20
tuxtheslackerI'll pastebin the strace if it's helpful.09:20
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rockzmankspath_: my amsn is set to stay on docks when it initialize so i just opened and it is hide how do i do to unhide it?09:20
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amphirockzman: BTW, obconf only lets you configure some aspects of openbox; other config stuff is concealed in ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml09:20
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MTecknologyIs Ekiga only for talking to people that also have Ekiga, or can I use it as a phone?09:20
kspath_rockzman: I do not know or use amsn09:20
rockzmanok09:20
tuxtheslackermmap2(0xc8120000, 131072, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS|MAP_NORESERVE, -1, 0) = 0x7bee000009:20
tuxtheslackermunmap(0x7bee0000, 131072)              = 009:20
tuxtheslackermmap2(0xc8120000, 65536, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS|MAP_NORESERVE, -1, 0) = 0x7bef000009:20
tuxtheslackermunmap(0x7bef0000, 65536)               = 009:20
rockzmanamphi: thanks amphi09:20
tuxtheslackersorry109:20
rockzmani'll be trying some here09:21
tuxtheslackerwrong screen!09:21
FlannelMTecknology: it can talk to all h.323 clients, and yes, I believe you can call out too, through some service.09:21
HackmoMTecknology: go to ekiga website, it has a list of protocals it supports09:21
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MTecknologyty09:21
MTecknologyI just installed a fresh copy of Dapper. It detected my wireless card, but I can't connect to a network with it. I installed the Wireless Assistant, and it won't detect my access point.09:21
HackmoMTecknology: Yeah you can call land line phones with it but you need to pay09:21
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MTecknologyo :(09:21
Hackmoanyone here have an ipod09:22
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tuxtheslackerHackmo, I do, but I use it with a mac....09:22
igorzolnikovhow can i know my current video driver for xorg?09:22
HackmoMTecknology: yeah you wont find any free pc to phone voip software anymore09:22
tuxtheslackergtkpod is probably what you're looking for though, Hackmo09:22
MTecknologyaight09:22
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Hackmotuxtheslacker: ever used banshee with it?09:22
Hackmotuxtheslacker: ok thanks09:22
tuxtheslackerHackmo, nope :-/. sorry.09:22
rockzmanamphi: tell me more utilities for obconf for its customization09:22
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ArthasAmarok also works, I think?09:23
amphirockzman: huh?09:23
NoUseHackmo I do, 4th gen B/W 20GB09:23
igorzolnikovless /etc/xorg.conf | grep driver ???09:23
andrejkwHey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png09:23
MTecknologyOK, After after activating eth1 (my wireless) and clicking OK, I go back into Networking and it is deactivated.. ????09:23
tuxtheslackeranyone have picasa stop running?09:23
amphirockzman: vim ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml ;)09:23
tuxtheslackerit used to run, and then all of a sudden just stopped.09:23
HackmoNoUse: what software do you use with it?09:23
tuxtheslackerI have no idea why.09:23
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Arthasrun it from a terminal, see what errors it gives uou09:24
rockzmanamphi: mm i meen programs like obconf but with more plugins and options u know any?09:24
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amphirockzman: plugins?09:24
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NoUseHackmo Amarok 1.409:24
tuxtheslackerhttp://pastebin.com/74964509:24
lotvi'm trying to install 6.06 rc and i get an installation error, it doesn;t recognize my ethernet (which works pretty well without any tweaking with this 5.10 64-bit installation)09:24
rockzmanamphi: with plugins*09:24
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tuxtheslackerthe porblem is in that line, I just don't know how to fix it.09:24
pallyThe updated Ubuntu KDE/QT doesnt support font 'FZZhunYuan M02S' ??09:24
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HackmoNoUse: how does Amarok run on GNOME?09:24
amphirockzman: obconf is a simple configurator for most commonly messed-with aspects of openbox09:24
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NoUseHackmo just fine I'm sure09:24
tuxtheslackerHackmo, it runs beautifully.09:24
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Flannellotv: you installing from the liveCD? or the install CD?09:25
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rockzmanamphi: good i got ya but i have been asking if u know any another configurator?09:25
amphirockzman: otherwise you must manually tweak the config file I mentioned above, AFAIK09:25
amphirockzman: it's not difficult09:25
lotvinstall flannel09:25
rockzmanamphi: yea i noticed i was just wondering09:25
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amphirockzman: you will find useful docs under /usr/share/doc/openbox09:26
tuxtheslackeranyone know if there's known issues with picasa?09:26
NoUse!tell Hackmo about amarok09:26
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MTecknologyHow do I know whick BCM utility to install?09:26
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tuxtheslackerit just stopped working after I installed the ATi drivers.09:26
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MTecknologyHow do I know whick BCM utility to install?09:26
Bugszero: you installing ?09:26
tuxtheslackerthen when I try to delete the old one, and apt-get it, it tells me that programs refer to it or something along those lines.09:26
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igorzolnikovhow can i my video cards?09:27
igorzolnikovknow09:27
[zero] Bugs im just burning it09:27
p_mas1so what the difference between badger and dapper... and will I be able to do a "live update" from badger to dapper ??09:27
MTecknologyHow can I tell what wireless driver I have installed?????????????09:27
NoUseigorzolnikov lspci09:27
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chmod775!dapper09:28
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then09:28
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BeNidid Official dapper release?09:28
igorzolnikovthx09:28
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NoUseBeNi tomorrow09:28
chmod775nope09:28
amphiBeNi: not as such09:28
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Flannelp_mas1: yep. you can look here for notable changes: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta09:28
KrpanoBeNi , http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/18209:28
chmod775gnome power manager sucks though on some laptops09:28
kspath_!tell BeNi about dapper09:28
[zero] that ubuntu, what time GMT:+0 will it be?09:28
Bugszero: cool...what video card do you have ?09:28
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Flannelpeople, it probably is not going to release at midnight GMT.  It'll release SOMETIME on the 1st.09:29
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KrpanoFlannel , http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/18209:29
Krpanoit says 0 hour09:29
[zero] Bugs, I think its 32/64mb in the one im installing ubuntu on09:29
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tuxtheslackerhow do I add a module to the kernel permanently.09:30
tuxtheslacker?09:30
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tuxtheslackerI want to add the v4l modules, and everytime I reboot, they're not added.09:30
crimsuntuxtheslacker: are they listed in /etc/modules ?09:31
tuxtheslackeryes.09:31
rockzmanamphi: where is the menu.xml file?09:31
tuxtheslackercrimsun, yes.09:32
crimsuntuxtheslacker: I hope you meant s/add a module to the kernel permanently/load a module on boot/09:32
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tuxtheslackercrimsun, yes. :-)09:33
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crimsuntuxtheslacker: you don't have anything funky in /etc/modprobe.conf or the like, correct?09:33
kspath_!tell Lord_Illidan about away09:34
tuxtheslackercrimsun, not that I'm aware of.09:34
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SurfnKidwell so far my ATI card is now working thanks whoeer helped me09:34
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rockzmancan anyone give me a hand with ma openbox09:34
rockzman?09:34
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crimsuntuxtheslacker: ok, let me rephrase: /etc/modprobe.conf doesn't exist, correct?09:34
tuxtheslackercrimsun, if it isn't possible I'll go ahead and write a shell script... :-/.09:34
tuxtheslackercrimsun, no, but modprobe.d does.09:35
Krpano!tell Krpano how to win lots of money, without effort09:35
crimsuntuxtheslacker: right, the former shouldn't but the latter should.09:36
amphirockzman: try updatedb; locate menu.xml09:36
tuxtheslackerokay, good.09:36
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tuxtheslackercrimsun, should i create modprobe.conf?09:36
Krpanoquote: ubotuNo, krpano, I won't.09:36
Krpanolol09:36
sybaritensoon i discovered, that this rock-thing was true.09:36
sybaritenJerry Lee Lewis was the devil. Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet.09:36
crimsuntuxtheslacker: Absolutely not. Can you confirm that they're not blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist* ?09:36
rockzmanamphi: only about gimp09:36
rockzmanamphi: i downloaded an ob menu editor09:36
kspath_sybariten: Are you aware you are in #ubuntu?09:36
tuxtheslackercrimsun, is blacklist a text file?09:36
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tuxtheslackercrimsun, there's not blacklist* file.09:37
crimsuntuxtheslacker: there are several such prefixed text files.09:37
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crimsuntuxtheslacker: (I'm referring to Dapper)09:37
tuxtheslackercrimsun, there are none on this and I'm on breezy :-P09:37
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_groutwhat command will upgrade 5.1 to dapper?09:38
crimsuntuxtheslacker: ok, are they referenced in /etc/hotplug/blacklist* , then?09:38
tuxtheslackerapt-get upgrade.09:38
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UserName14how do you make it so the root gets its own email instead of it going to my account name09:38
Flannel_grout: 5.10, and once it's released, update manager will ask you if you want to upgrade09:38
[zero] ARRHHH :( it rebooted09:38
vnossDapper rc installed grub on my MBR without asking user, it's normal ?09:38
tuxtheslackercrimsun, no.09:38
BlissexUserName14: check '/etc/aliases' usually09:38
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x_orIs anyone here using Apache2 with HTML::Mason modperl templating toolkit?09:39
richardjimmmmmy09:39
tuxtheslackercrimsun, they are not*09:39
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rockzmanamphi: gimme a hand09:40
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_groutwhen dapper comming out midnight tonight or sometime tommroow?09:40
rahonavisdapper has not been released yet ?09:40
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gnomefreakrahonavis: no09:40
kspath_!dapper09:40
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then09:40
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rockzmanamphi: running install09:41
rockzmanerror: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)09:41
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gnomefreak_grout: tomorrow some time no time set09:41
_groutk09:41
rahonavis1st of june !  they are using suspense to keep us growing wild !09:41
rockzmanamphi: it means i dont have python 2.4 insatlled?09:41
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sybaritenkspath_: hey, was Al Jourgensen aware of that he had taken a lot of drugs when writing that song09:41
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meherenhow do i burn a vcd??? i have an .avi file09:41
_groutE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)09:41
crimsuntuxtheslacker: what about in /etc/hotplug.d/* ?09:41
tuxtheslackerwe shoudl just have a script that runs every two seconds say !dapper.... hahahhaa!09:41
kspath_sybariten: offtopic09:41
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rockzmangnomefreak: gimme a hand09:41
_grouthow can i stop that?09:42
drew_how can I make my fat32 partition writable09:42
kspath_sybariten: try #ubuntu-offtopic09:42
gnomefreakrockzman: with what?09:42
sybaritenkspath_: just my entrance09:42
rockzmangnomefreak: running install09:42
MilesAttaccaWill Ubuntu install modem drivers, TCP/IP stacks, etc. as part of the installation process?09:42
rockzmanerror: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)09:42
rockzmangnomefreak: it means i dont have python installed?09:42
kspath_sybariten: Just what?09:42
gnomefreakrockzman: you should have python installed09:42
seth__How do I start SSH in terminal??09:42
tuxtheslackercrimsun, none are there either.09:42
davidhousehi guys. i have some xmodmap bindings i'd like to load automatically when my laptop boots. i have them in my ~/.xmodmaprc file, and http://paste.lisp.org/display/20672 is my ~/.xinitrc file, but it's not working; the bindings aren't loaded. any suggestions?09:42
gnomefreakrockzman: type python in terminal09:42
rockzmangnomefreak: yes, and i did check on synaptic it is09:42
soundrayMilesAttacca: of course -- What's Linux without TCP/IP?09:42
kspath_seth__: ssh client or sshd?09:42
rockzmangnomefreak: ki09:42
davidhouseseth__: by typing ssh09:42
crimsuntuxtheslacker: loading them manually after boot works, though?09:42
drew_how can I make my fat32 drive writable09:42
richardhi09:43
kspath_seth__: man ssh09:43
rockzmanthere it goes gnomefreak how do i manually install a file .py now?09:43
crimsunsoundray: there're always UDP, ICMP, SCTP, ...09:43
tuxtheslackercrimsun, there are no errors :-)09:43
meheren!vcd09:43
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, meheren09:43
Larsson-SwedenWhen trying to switch gtk2 themes with "switch2" , most of my themes does not work. I get this error message: /home/larsson/.gtkrc.tmp-0:2: Unable to find include file: "(null)"09:43
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richard how do i check my bandwith , i have 128kb adsl09:43
tuxtheslackermodprobe v4l2-common09:43
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MilesAttaccaI heard from a friend, also, that you can write to Windows-formatted floppies in Ubuntu, but Windows won't read a floppy that was first formatted in Ubuntu.09:43
tuxtheslackerit works.09:43
gnomefreakrockzman: you run them not install them to run them type python file.py09:43
tuxtheslackerCicero_, ^^09:43
meherendoes anyone know how to burn a vcd?09:43
rockzmangnomefreak: ok09:43
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tuxtheslackercrimsun, ^^^^09:44
soundrayMilesAttacca: it depends on the type of filesystem that you put on the floppy.09:44
gnomefreakif it has an installer it will install after running that09:44
rockzmangnomefreak: rockzman@ANDRE:~/Desktop/obmenu-1.0$ python setup.py09:44
MilesAttaccaUbuntu gives the option to format FAT:09:44
rockzmanusage: setup.py [global_opts]  cmd1 [cmd1_opts]  [cmd2 [cmd2_opts]  ...] 09:44
MilesAttacca*?09:44
seth__How do I start SSH though....09:44
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mehereni want to make a vcd that my cd/vcd/dvd player can read with an avi file how would i go about this?09:44
gnomefreakrockzman: that looks right09:44
soundrayMilesAttacca: FAT will be read just fine in Windows.09:44
kspath_seth__: define what you mean by SSH ?09:44
sybaritenkspath_: hadnt been in the chan for a day or so, felt that i wanted to make an impression upon entering.09:44
rockzmangnomefreak: it installed u mean?09:44
tuxtheslackerwhat ticks me off is that picasa just stopped running too :-(09:44
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meherenseth_, ssh09:45
seth__Running SSH09:45
tuxtheslackerjust like randomly.09:45
[zero] a little help with partitions anyone?09:45
kspath_sybariten: You made a bad one. Offtopic.09:45
rockzmangnomefreak: error: no commands supplied09:45
gnomefreakrockzman: what are you trying to install?09:45
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soundrayseth__: say exactly what you want to do.09:45
meherenseth_, type ssh then type the name or address of server09:45
rockzmangnomefreak: a menu configurator for ob09:45
gnomefreakrockzman: did it come as a tar?09:45
seth__Start SSH09:45
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MilesAttaccaAlso, is there a good guide to Linux commands? I've been rotted by Windows. :D09:45
seth__Like SSHD09:45
kspath_seth__: ssh client is ssh  ; whereis ssh    ssh server is sshd    ls -la /etc/init.d/ssh*09:45
richardcan someone help? i d/load  skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb to my desktop and opened a terminal09:45
mzuverinkWhat time do they usually realse the official versions, and what time zone?09:45
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gnomefreakubotut ell MilesAttacca -about cli09:45
richardbut i cant install it09:45
soundrayseth__: be a bit more precise, and avoid the term ssh please.09:45
rockzmangnomefreak: yea09:45
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gnomefreakubotu tell MilesAttacca -about cli09:45
sybaritenso, i have this PPC Ubuntu install, its a 400 or so MHz iMac. It sucks ass. Thats taken for granted ofcourse, but lately i've noticed that it gets kind of sluggish (??) with some terminals on one desktop and firefox with some tabs, on another desktop. The question is: can i replace gnome, and get a noticable difference in "snappiness" ??09:46
gnomefreakrockzman: did you inpack the tar?09:46
rockzmangnomefreak: sure :P09:46
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czambranmzuverink, 00:00:00 UTC/GMT  06/01/0609:46
gnomefreakunpack*09:46
rockzmanyea09:46
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gnomefreakrockzman: you did?09:46
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soundrayseth__: are you trying to make your computer accessible from a remote machine?09:46
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mzuverinkczambran:thanks09:46
rockzmangnomefreak: yea i did09:46
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richardHELP!09:46
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MilesAttaccaI think if I can learn DOS commands I can get Linux eventually, of course. :)09:46
gnomefreakrockzman: now cd into the new file it made09:46
xukuncan some one tell me why this is? "Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it."09:46
soundray!helpme09:46
MilesAttaccaThanks gnomefreak.09:46
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)09:46
gnomefreakMilesAttacca: yw09:46
mzuverinkSo I could probably hold of on downloading the release candidate then huh...09:47
rockzmangnomefreak: directory u mean ^^ ok im in09:47
[zero] Can anyone tell me what to do with the partitions please? I did it before but GRUB Error 18 came up so I'd like someone to tell me what to do please :)??09:47
loststar4545hello  i need to use a live cd  of  ubuntu to do  some things but live cd  gives me  the blank screen with cursor  how do io   start  the live  cd  to terminal  only09:47
czambranxukun,  you need libdvd209:47
soundray[zero] : do you have a big hard disk in a fairly old computer?09:47
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[zero] 40gb in an old computer09:47
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xukunczambran, thanks a lot09:47
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richardi d/load  skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb amd opened a terminal, but i still cant installthe file09:47
[zero] ubuntu will be the only os on it09:47
gnomefreakrockzman: that command should run it/install it depending what what it does09:48
sybaritenand if the difference in speed/lightness is directly proportional to how big and featurefilled the window manager is, what would be a good compromise? Its not that i need to run nautilus or so, but i tend to like the feature of different desktops.09:48
soundray[zero] : try setting the LBA option for hard disk access in the BIOS setup.09:48
rockzmangnomefreak: mmm just python setup.py ?09:48
sybaritenplus i like the gnome terminal ... but perhaps there are alternatives that can be run in other WMs09:48
Hackmohm, i'm having a problem with amarok09:48
rockzmangnomefreak: in the menu configurator README file says "python setup.py install" as root09:48
gnomefreakif that is what the readme or install files tells you to run can i have the site for this please09:48
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[zero] soundray im in the installation now09:48
Hackmoit says that it can't mount my ipod although when I do it manually it tells me that it is already mounted09:48
gnomefreakrockzman: than type sudo python setup.py install09:49
soundray[zero] : I don't know what you mean.09:49
rockzmangnomefreak: yea the first error i did paste09:49
to0omis the final release of dapper tomorrow? or is it postponed some days?09:49
[zero] Im at the stage where you choose the partitions09:49
rockzmangnomefreak: nvm nvm =D09:49
rockzmangnomefreak: it works ty =)09:49
kspath_!dapper09:49
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then09:49
czambranto0om,  it is in a little over 4 hours09:49
[zero] I have formatted since the old instalation when the GRUB error hapened09:49
gnomefreakrockzman:ok09:49
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to0omgreat czambran :)09:49
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gnomefreakczambran: where did you hear that?09:50
rockzmangnomefreak: can you help me to locate my menu.xml of my ob? i installed it using synaptic09:50
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czambrangnomefreak, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/18209:50
tomaszhi - what package do I have to install to get access to the programming interface of XDR library ?09:50
gnomefreakrockzman: use locate09:50
soundray[zero] : create a small partition at the beginning of the disk, ca. 200 MB. This will be mounted as /boot09:50
philuk86hi, ive just installed a new adaptec scsi card and connected a disk to the first controller. What do i need to do in ubuntu to format it?09:51
rockzmangnomefreak: how do i create a file?09:51
hura!audigy09:51
ubotuit has been said that audigy is muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.09:51
gnomefreakrockzman: mkdir09:51
soundray[zero] : create a root partition of ca. 8GB. This will be mounted as /09:51
xukunczambran, where can I find that, libdvd209:51
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gnomefreakczambran: you might want to go to that page again09:51
xukun?09:51
gnomefreakxukun: libdvdcss09:51
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soundray[zero] : create home partition occupying most of the space, leaving about 1 GB. This will be mounted as /home09:52
drew_I need help I got a fat32 partition its already mounted but I cant write to it and I want to write to it becuase It has some files I need to edit09:52
EroickDoes anyone here use Ubuntu but with a different WM than gnome or KDE? My computer is a bit slow for those, so I was wondering if I could easily migrate ubuntu to xfce. Any suggestions?09:52
soundray[zero] : finally, create a swap partition in the remaining free space - ca. 1 GB (max).09:52
czambrangnomefreak, huh?09:52
[zero] thankx soundray :D09:52
gnomefreakczambran: nothing there about it09:52
kspath_Eroick: apt-cache search xfce09:52
soundrayEroick: very easy - install the xubuntu-desktop package and its dependencies.09:52
sybaritenEroick: hehe are you echoing my questions09:53
czambranxukun, here is a complete reference: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:53
czambrangnomefreak, about the release?09:53
gnomefreakyep09:53
kspath_soundray: I did not need to do that. I simply have several window managers and just choose one.09:53
czambranI see it09:53
void^drew_: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions09:53
czambranUbuntu 6.06 Release09:53
czambranStart: 2006-06-01 00:0009:53
czambranTimezone: Etc/GMT09:53
Eroicksoundray: should I do a full install or server install? and is the destop package the famous porno wallpaper package :P?09:53
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czambrangnomefreak, u didn't see that?09:54
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soundrayEroick: do a full install, unless hard disk is scarce, in which case server will be fine. There is no porn in Ubuntu now, and there never was IMO.09:54
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kranghey hey, does anyone know how to change my default media player from totem to mplayer? I had a poke around but couldn't really find anything09:55
[zero] soundray how do i make the last one to a swap partition?09:55
Eroicksoundray: heh, ok09:55
gnomefreakyeah i read it wrong09:55
czambranno problem09:56
seth__I am getting this error...09:56
soundray[zero] : there should be an option to make it type swap or 82 (hex code)09:56
seth__root@bob:~#  /etc/init.d/ssh start09:56
seth__ * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 09:56
seth__root@bob:~#09:56
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czambrangnomefreak,  it happens to the best of us09:56
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kspath_ /ignore seth__09:56
kspath_sorry09:56
[zero] soundray nevermind, Iv done it09:56
czambranxukun, did the link help u?09:56
NoUseseth__ you need to use sudo09:56
seth__WTF?09:56
seth__I did...09:56
seth__Sudo -s09:56
soundrayseth__: it is probably running already. Test with ssh localhost09:57
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woodwizzlewhen does dapper come out? midnight?09:57
kspath_!dapper09:57
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then09:57
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kspath_woodwizzle: no promises, released June 1st.09:57
xukunczambran, not yet becouse I already had that package installed09:57
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Hohlraumrelease is tomorrow right?09:57
czambranoops09:57
kspath_Hohlraum: read09:58
czambranxukun, are u using dapper?09:58
NoUseseth__ try /etc/init.d/sshd restart09:58
kspath_!tell Hohlraum about dapper09:58
seth__Thanks...09:58
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Hohlraumyeah i just saw that thanks09:58
seth__SSH working...09:58
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xukunczambran, yes sorry that I didnt mention that09:58
rockzmangnomefreak: can you help my program didnt run09:58
Flannelgnomefreak, think you could put something nice about dapper in the topic, so we can stop with all the questions?09:58
[zero] Do the Ubuntu updates happen automaticly if its already installed?09:58
Eroicksoundray: what is in that package anyway?09:58
rockzmangnomefreak: can i paste you what happened?09:58
gnomefreakrockzman: use pastebin09:59
soundrayEroick: which one?09:59
rockzmangnomefreak: yea sure09:59
Flannel[zero] : not automatically, but it asks you automatically.09:59
soundrayEroick: xubuntu-desktop?09:59
Eroicksoundray: xubuntu.. yeah09:59
gnomefreakFlannel: give me a min or few09:59
Flannel[zero] : just like normal updates (update managers)09:59
rockzmangnomefreak: tell its address again (of pastebin)09:59
lnx^so will the final dapper be released in some hours? or some days?09:59
seth__ubuntu is 133709:59
HohlraumFlannel: according to the RC notes update manager isn't run automatically09:59
NoUse!tell rockzman about pastebin09:59
soundrayEroick: nothing, actually - it's a metapackage that only has dependencies.09:59
czambranxukun,  did u follow all the instructions on the page?09:59
lnx^I'm thinking of replacing this debian unstable with it as soon as it's released09:59
kspath_!tell lnx^ about dapper10:00
Eroicksoundray: ok, then what does it achieve?10:00
soundrayEroick: you can safely remove it when all its dependencies are in place.10:00
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gnomefreakty NoUse10:00
NoUsegnomefreak np10:00
soundrayEroick: it makes sure you get a complete xfce-based desktop environment.10:00
Eroicksoundray: ok, thanks10:00
lnx^kspath_: I see, thanks10:00
sybaritenand it looks like it was the setting /set window_history ON or something10:00
sybaritenuh wrong chan10:00
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lotusleafI've got a fever... and the only thing that can cure it is DAPPER!10:01
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xukunczambran, I think so, but I think that I need to install totem-xine xine-ui package can you agree with me?10:01
gnomefreakFlannel: it already does it says for discusstion on dapper to see #ubuntu+1 ;)10:01
sybaritenwhats the difference between doing sudo aptitude update, and sudo apt-get update ?10:01
rockzmanNoUse gnomefreak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1492510:01
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rockzmanCheck it10:01
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gnomefreaksybariten: nothing with that command really10:02
czambranxukun,  it will give it a try10:02
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czambran*would10:02
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gnomefreakrockzman: bad script?10:02
xukunczambran, thanks10:02
rockzmangnomefreak: of the program u say?10:02
sybaritengnomefreak: ok10:02
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gnomefreaksybariten: aptitude handles packages/depends better IMHO10:02
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Dottorehello, all !!!10:03
sybaritengnomefreak:10:03
gnomefreaksybariten: the update command isnt gonna make a difference iirf10:03
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gnomefreakiirc10:03
rockzmangnomefreak: what is wrong the program i downloaded from freshmeat or my python?10:03
gnomefreakrockzman: yes10:03
xikohello guys, just installed ubuntu and It had a problem while installing the files. I said to kept it going and now Synaptic isnt working. I could do apt-get update/upgrade. My question is, how can I install Synaptics from scratch10:03
sybaritengnomefreak: ok ,,,  btw isnt aptitude that console version of the X package manager? (looosely)10:03
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gnomefreakrockzman: im thinking its the script/ program itsself10:03
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gnomefreaksybariten: yes10:03
Dottoresomeone know how to get Xorg and an old ATI 3D rage IIc to cooperate ?10:03
Eroickis there something like xubuntu-desktop that lets you install fluxbox?10:03
NoUsexiko doesn synaptic give you any error messages?10:04
stefanwhich command can I use to resolve an ip to a hostname or vice versa?10:04
rockzmangnomefreak: bad i need a menu editor in openbox badly =\10:04
xikoNoUse, no it doesnt. It just dont open10:04
CokeNCodestefan host10:04
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stefanthx10:04
NoUsexiko run it from the console10:04
seth__Is there a was to disable the auto mounting and then reenable it again??10:04
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Dottorehello ?10:04
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seth__Hey10:05
gnomefreakrockzman: you can do that from the config file  but i dont remember how/what file off top of my head10:05
kspath_stefan: dig host nslookup10:05
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NoUse!tell Dottore about patience10:05
DottoreOK NoUse10:05
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gnomefreakrockzman: theres a fluxbox guide it should work with black open flux bvoxes10:05
xikoNoUse,  ty, the noob here didnt su first ._.10:05
seth__Does anyone know how to turn the automount off??10:05
DottoreI'll wait....10:05
sybaritengnomefreak: ok .. i'm surprised i had it. I installed it once on another machine and was thrilled, but that was Damn Small or something. It was a great way of being able to see installed packages, over SSH and such10:05
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CokeNCode!tell CokeNCode about patience10:05
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rockzmangnomefreak: how i uninstall it aswell?10:06
seth__Could someone please help me turn off automount??10:06
CanardHello. I am trying to renew the IP address on an ubuntu machine from a dhcp server. I am typing in dhcpcd -k into the terminal, but I am told that command is not found. How do I renew the IP address?10:06
phatmonkeyplease help: upgraded to dapper RC, locked up on "Starting PCMCIA services". i boot up into recovery mode, it again locks up on the same thing with the message "Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found". forum or google search provides no help.10:06
gnomefreakrockzman: its not installed i dont think10:06
CokeNCodeyeh, how do you uninstall programs in ubuntu10:06
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gnomefreakphatmonkey: #ubuntu+1 for dapper10:06
NoUseCokeNCode synaptic10:06
[zero] :) i hope this installation works10:06
phatmonkeyi've tried booting up with init=/bin/sh, but I can't do anything with apt because of the read only fs10:06
phatmonkeyok10:06
NoUseCokeNCode or sudo apt-get remove <program>10:06
CokeNCodeNoUse thanks10:06
kspath_!tell phatmonkey about dapper10:06
sybariten"E: Couldn't find package xubuntu-desktop10:06
seth__And what dev a firewire hdd wouuld be10:06
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gnomefreaksybariten: make sure universe repo is enabled10:07
sybaritengnomefreak: OK... but i should mention that i am on PPC10:07
crazy_penguinnight all!10:07
gnomefreaksybariten: not real sure that matters witht he xubuntu package10:07
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sybaritengnomefreak:  ok ... well i had these two lines (among others) in my sources.list         deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe10:08
gnomefreaksybariten: apt-cache policy xubuntu-desktop  it will show what repo its in for you10:08
echelon-hhow can i run a vnc server?10:08
gnomefreaksybariten: are you on hoary?10:08
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sybaritengnomefreak: thanks!  (btw pasting is a bit sketchy, to say the least, here)10:09
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rockzmangnomefreak: do you think its possible to a file that is in source forge be with bad script?10:09
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sybaritengnomefreak: i can never remember! whats the command to check again10:09
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gnomefreaksybariten: lsb_release -a10:09
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sybaritengnomefreak: thanks10:09
gnomefreakrockzman: yes10:09
echelon-hhow can i run a vnc server?10:09
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thesporeI just dist-upgraded to dapper, now i cannot start x server.  says it cannot load libGLcore.so, module GLcore, and module nvidia (no drivers available, no screens found).. how can i correct this?10:09
rockzmangnomefreak: so im fucked hehe thank you mate10:09
Pesan810:09
kspath_!tell thespore about dapper10:09
Mysta_!vnc10:10
ubotumethinks vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)10:10
gnomefreaksybariten: i dont think you can get xubuntu-desktop on hoary i would upgrade to breezy anyway10:10
aLPHa_LeaKor rather dapper10:10
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gnomefreakubotut ell rockzman -about lanuage10:10
CanardHello. I am trying to renew the IP address on an ubuntu machine from a dhcp server. I am typing in dhcpcd -k into the terminal, but I am told that command is not found. How do I renew the IP address?10:10
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gnomefreakubotu tell rockzman -about language10:10
revmouseCanard, dhclient10:10
[zero] eeeeekk10:10
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sybaritengnomefreak: Codename:       hoary              and      W: Unable to locate package xubuntu-desktop10:11
gnomefreaksybariten: upgrade to breezy please10:11
gnomefreaksybariten: they didnt release xubuntu-desktop until breezy iirc10:11
thesporecan you have it "tell me about dapper" in the main window, i don't know how to view queries with this client10:11
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NoUse!tell thespore about ubotu10:11
gnomefreakubotu thespore about dapper10:11
ubotugnomefreak: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:11
gnomefreaktell even10:12
sybaritengnomefreak: ok .. are there threads on it in the forum? and am i likely to find PPC-specific info on that issue ... coz if its one thing i've learned its that you are always a "special case" when you are on Mac10:12
thespore:q10:12
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NoUsesybariten the issue isn't related to PPC, its simply that you have an old version of ubuntu10:12
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drew_okay anybody in here know how I can get my fat32 partition so I can write to it10:13
sybaritenNoUse: eye know ... but _when_ i upgrade that version, there will probably be special cases since i'm on PPC10:13
Bugszero : how's progress10:13
knoppixhey got a question... how do i mount my harddrive with knoppix?10:13
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kspath_knoppix: /join #knoppix10:13
knoppixi screwed up my ubuntu install and i need to get it remounted so i can fix it10:13
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amadeo-es+10:13
NoUsesybariten I doubt it10:13
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Bugs[zero] : how's progress10:14
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CokeNCodecan i transfer files using an ssh connection ?10:14
kspath_CokeNCode: man ssh10:14
phpsrCokeNCode: use sftp10:14
shediCokeNCode, yes you can10:14
kspath_CokeNCode: search tunnel, scp, sftp10:15
NoUse!ssh10:15
[zero] Bugs its gone further than before, I have installed and its installing packages now10:15
ubotuit has been said that ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH10:15
CokeNCodethanks shedi10:15
xikoI dont seem to configure my abnt-2 keyboard right, and in preferences keyboard it doesnt have the option, even if i choose brazil and microsoft internet keyboard. Where can i find it10:15
xiko?10:15
drew_how can I upgrade to 6.0610:15
NoUse!tell drew_ about upgrade10:15
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abeckhow do I apt vnc using tightvnc?10:15
Bugs[zero] :  so all's well, so far ?10:15
seanhCokeNCode - also try nautilus ssh://unsername@host/path.to/folder10:15
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[zero] Bugs yeh it is10:16
drew_thanks10:16
[zero] Haha Iv opened the side of the box and had a desk fan on blowing into it incase it was due to heat10:16
NoUseabeck vnc server or client?10:16
shedican you mount a remote directory using the ssh protocol10:16
drew_hey can anybody help me so I can write to my fat32 partition10:17
Bugs[zero] :  excellent.  I just wanted to know before I bug out of here.  I think ubuntu is the best distro I have ever tried and feel compelled to help others as much as i have been helped by this community...it is awesome...10:17
kspath_shedi: search engine  keywords    mount remote ssh  ?10:17
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[zero] yeah, my friend (who hasnt ever used linux properly :S) told me to use it :D10:17
kspath_shedi: apt-cache search ssh10:17
shedikspath_, just in case you knew10:17
Mysta_hey, can i show line numbers in nano? i did a man nano, but came up short10:18
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Bugs[zero] :  cheers mate...check u on the flip side...10:18
Reonany idea what time the dapper iso's will be available ?10:18
shediit most surely can be done10:18
NoUseReon when they are on the website, they will be available10:18
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grantbHello room!10:18
Mysta_hello10:19
kspath_shedi: shfs sshfs and many other interesting things can be found via apt-cache search keyword10:19
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ReonNoUse, that I could have figured out for myself ;)10:19
drew_okay can somebody help me10:19
NoUseReon you are about the 1200th person thats asked that today, sorry10:19
drew_i have asked tons of times10:19
NoUse!tell drew_ about patience10:20
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Mysta_lol10:20
ReonNoUse, no problem. I will have a look tomorrow10:20
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FlannelReon: once it's released, normal update manager will ask you if you want to upgrade10:20
drew_im 13 almost 14 so I have no patience wat so ever10:20
grantb!tell NoUse about manners10:20
drew_!tell everyone about teenagers10:20
fabioI need your help! Ubuntu 5.10 and ATI 9600/9700 radeon on my PC. 3D acceleration doesn't work. Why? (I have installed restricted modules, xorg-fglrx-drivers...)10:20
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grantbROFL Didn't realize!10:20
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ReonFlannel, doing a clean install.10:21
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Alecxhi all10:21
UserName14I removed a file from a package after it was uninstalled now when i reinstall it it does not put install that file and the file is missing how do i force it to install everything10:21
Alecxi need help10:21
FlannelReon: alright, then you'll have to wait for it to be released, then you can download it from ubuntu.com (but probably be better to use the torrent, server might be hosed)10:21
[zero] I have a question about this update which is coming up.. What happens? Will it just download the update and install in the gui or will I have to download the ISO again?10:22
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sam__UserName14: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package-name>10:22
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Reonbye10:22
Alecxi'am looking for a tutorial to use ubuntu10:22
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UserName14sam__, :) thanks i was doing remove  + install10:22
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drew_gosh I will ask one more time sorry about the caps but I need the help! I NEED HELP I NEED TO BE ABLE TO WRITE TO MY FAT32 PARTITIONS PLZ HELP ME10:22
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fabio...hmmm, I can't use 3D accel....ATI 9600/97000 radeon...help! help me!10:23
KenSentMecan i run ssh server to listen at multiple ports?10:23
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sethI do not understand this fdisk how can I format firewire drives??10:23
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kbrooksdrew_:10:23
kbrooks!fstab10:23
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drew_i did10:23
kbrooks...10:23
DSteelenotice drew read the ubuntu guide section on fat3210:23
kbrooksuh10:23
drew_some guy told me some stuff to put in it and it totalled messed up the partition10:23
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kbrooksSeveas: where did ubotu go?10:23
kbrooksdrew_: no, it didnt10:23
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Seveaskbrooks, here 10:24
kbrooks!fstab10:24
sethHow do I format a firewire drive??10:24
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions. See also !partitions10:24
drew_it said had5 has a bad block10:24
drew_I opened fstab in gedit10:24
nickm__hi, are universe repos available by default?10:24
kbrooksdrew_: pastebin fstab10:24
DSteelehttp://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountfat10:24
Flannel!tell nickm__ about repositories10:24
drew_and some person in offtopic told me how10:24
SeveasDSteele, ubuntuguide.org is crap10:24
apokryphosnickm__: no10:24
NoUse!ubuntuguide10:24
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, totally, badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.10:24
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nickm__thanks apokryphos10:24
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[zero] 10:24
DSteeleyes but it is still correct in this10:24
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ben__can some1 help me?10:25
NoUseben__ if you ask a question we can try10:25
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ben__when i try to install wine for ubuntu breezy and put in the address thing for the repositorie in synaptic package manager then refresh it gives an error10:25
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drew_I dont know what paste bin is10:26
ben__it says the address was 404 not found10:26
NoUse!tell drew_ about pastebin10:26
xikowhere can I get information to configure my ABNT-2 keyboard?10:26
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NoUseben__ what url are you putting in?10:26
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ben__deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt breezy main10:26
sethHow can I format a firewire drive???10:26
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sethIn Ubuntu10:26
seth...10:26
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lmhhi all10:26
seth:(10:26
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lmhjust installed dapper on my samsung x20 laptop (natural resolution = 1400x1050).10:27
sethCan someone please help me??10:27
sethWith formating??10:27
lmhHow cani set up grub to run the console with that resolution?10:27
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lmhalready tried with vga=77710:27
lmhand other values10:28
andrejkwHey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png10:28
hura!w32codec10:28
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ubotua compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439910:28
ben__some1 please help10:28
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NoUseben__ be patient please10:28
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drew_3 days ago somebody somebody showed me bt my system had to be reinstalled thats why I asked10:28
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Alecxanyone know xgl ?10:29
drew_and its annoying when people say read this it has it10:29
drew_when it dosent10:29
NoUse!xgl10:29
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ubotuI heard xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"10:29
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Alecxok =)10:29
UserName14how do you force apt to reinstall ALL files from the deb apt-get install --reinstall packagename is not working for me in the way i need it to work10:29
Alecxthanks10:29
NoUseben__ that url works on my system10:29
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carthikthe dapper-foo dvds are just the live and install cd put together right?10:30
drew_how do I know on pastebin when somebody has an answer10:30
ben__i went to the wine channel and told about the problem10:30
lmhnobody an idea?10:30
Sp4rKydarksteel, t'es la ?10:30
carthikor does it have extra packages not on the cd? what's the size of the dvds?10:30
Flannelcarthik: well, liveCD is the install CD now.  but, DVDs have additional packages on them10:30
h3sp4wnseth: look thru the output of dmesg | less in a console (and see if you see any reference to sda)10:30
NoUsedrew_ you have to give us the URL10:30
ben__they tried it out and told me to ask why X app doesnt install in the ubuntu channel10:30
drew_oh10:30
sybaritenconsole apps like aptitude almost give me an erection10:30
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drew_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1492710:31
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CokeNCodesybariten try running them remotely :)10:31
rambleOnhey guys10:31
CokeNCodeover ssh10:31
ben__i just installed linux this morning so i dont know what could be wrong with it10:31
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sybaritenCokeNCode: you mean as in getting down or up the hardon?10:31
rambleOnquick question, with ubuntu do I want to install wxwidgets for x11 or for GTK ?10:31
NoUsedrew_ under the <options> column for /dev/hda5 add umask=0000, that will give anyone logged into your system write permissions10:32
CokeNCodesybariten up10:32
Kyral_FreeBSDthere is a difference?10:32
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NoUsedrew_ so it will say 'defaults,umask=0000'10:32
drew_can u pm me10:32
drew_nouse10:32
drew_plz10:32
UserName14how do you force apt to reinstall ALL files from the deb apt-get install --reinstall packagename is not working for me in the way i need it to work10:32
sybaritenCokeNCode: yeah, i agree ...  the ability to run them remotely is really one of the reasons why i like console stuff that still can have some gui-feeling (with curses)10:32
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carthikDoes anyone know where I can find a DVD torrent that is fast - for dapper?10:33
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NoUsedrew_ no sorry, what do you need?10:33
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sethIs there a Ubuntu utility for formating firewire...10:33
seth?10:33
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skkHi! I am having problems while installing truecrypt debian package for ubuntu 5.10..10:34
L^sseWhen Dapper is released and where can I get it? Is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade enough or should configure apt's repos?10:34
NoUseUserName14 UserName14 sudo apt-get --purge remove <package> and then reinstall10:34
sethOr what command would I use..10:34
sybaritenok, apart from aptitude ...  which i really dont master yet ...  is there a way to use apt-get to list which occurences of *firefox* i have installed?  I am told here in some upgrade notes that i should remove "firefox" if i have "mozilla-firefox".10:34
ben__NoUse: any more help?10:34
sybaritennote: asterisks ... as in getting many results10:34
luis__is there a chance for dapper to be released tonight? or only tomorrow?10:34
sethNoUse...10:34
sethCan you help??10:34
NoUseben__ it sounds like a local problem, that URL works for me, double check that you entered it properly10:34
simian___i have messed up my /etc/apache2/ports.conf   can someone tell me what the default contents should be, I think it's just one line of text10:34
philuk86UserName14: have your tried purging it then installing it again?10:34
h3sp4wnsimian__: Listen 8010:35
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Belathorluis__: Dapper is released in 3 hours10:35
NoUseseth you format a firewire drive like you would any other drive10:35
ben__i copied and pasted it exactly10:35
skkdselect needs to remobe phpmyadmin, but the removal process fails due following error : " Removing phpmyadmin ...10:35
skk/var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found"..10:35
simian___h3sp4wn: thanks10:35
NoUseben__ I don't know then10:35
sethWhat dev though??10:35
UserName14philuk86, I just purged now becuase of noUse's message and now its all working (i iddnt know how to purge till now )10:35
aLPHa_LeaK n810:35
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YpsyHello all:)10:35
sethWhat command??10:35
sethI have never done it...10:36
ben__wtf10:36
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NoUseseth what fs do you want?10:36
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sethHold on10:36
drew_ok nouse I still cant write to it10:36
NoUsedrew_ did you remount it ?10:36
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sethUFS please10:36
ben__wtf10:36
ben__you used this url? deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt breezy main10:37
sethAnd I would like to RAID the,10:37
NoUseben__ yes10:37
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seththem...10:37
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drew_yea after I edited it and I umounted it then mounted it10:37
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NoUsedrew_ pastebin the output of 'mount'10:37
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drew_where do i get mount10:38
drew_or the output of it10:38
sethI would like to RAID two firewire drive and then format them...10:38
ben__linux is gay10:38
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NoUsedrew_ the output of it10:38
drew_output of what the termial10:38
NoUseben__ your issue is with the wine people, not ubuntu10:38
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NoUseseth I don't know about ufs10:38
Mary_hi guys, im trying to install ubuntu on my pc i have in the living room using an s-video cable to my television with an ati 8500. but when i start the install, i think it goes into a refresh rate over 60hz and my television goes on the fritz, i couldnt find a boot option to have command line only or to select the refresh rate, any suggestions10:39
sybaritenhow do i use apt-get to search for installed packages ?10:39
ben__wait after it says 404 error it says10:39
NoUsesybariten apt-cache search <key>10:39
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ben__warning the following problems were found on your system:10:39
drew_what exactly do u want nouse10:39
ben__W: Couldn't stat source package list http://wine.budgetdedicated.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/wine.budgetdedicated.com_apt_dists_breezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:39
czambranben__,  why do u say that?10:39
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NoUsedrew_ the output of the command 'mount'10:39
sethmac-fdisk - Apple disk partition manipulation tool10:39
sethpmac-fdisk - fdisk partition manipulation tool for PowerPC10:39
czambranben__, what are u trying to do?10:39
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TiG4Has anyone been able to figure out how to share music to an Xbox360 in Ubuntu?10:39
sethWhich one??10:39
ben__czambran: read what ive been saying10:39
NoUseben__ did you reload synaptic after adding the repo?10:39
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ben__yes10:40
skkHi, how could I fix this error: While removing phpmyadmin with dselect, the removal process fails due following error : " Removing phpmyadmin ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found".10:40
ben__thats when it gives me the error10:40
NoUseben__ run 'sudo apt-get update'10:40
sethI need to know how to use the UFS on the drives..10:40
czambranben__, I am trying to help u, if you can't repeat what u need that is your loss10:40
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luis__Belathor: 3 hours?? cool, but where did you see that?10:40
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Belathorluis__http://fridge.ubuntu.com/10:40
TiG4Has anyone been able to figure out how to share music to an  Xbox360 in Ubuntu?10:40
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NoUse!tell TiG4 about repeat10:40
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Mewshihi there!10:41
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Belathorluis__: It's under "Upcoming events"10:41
ben__NoUse: it gives the same error it just looks different10:41
drew_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14928  here ya go nouse10:41
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ben__Err http://wine.budgetdedicated.com breezy/main Packages10:41
ben__  404 Not Found10:41
NoUseben__ you have a network issue that we can't fix10:41
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Mewshiis there any way i can get enlightenment on ubuntu?10:41
ben__Fetched 3B in 0s (5B/s)10:41
ben__Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/breezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found10:41
ben__Reading package lists... Done10:41
ben__W: Couldn't stat source package list http://wine.budgetdedicated.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/wine.budgetdedicated.com_apt_dists_breezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:41
ben__W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems10:41
ben__E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.10:41
NoUseben DON'T paste!10:42
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ben__y not?10:42
NoUseben__ you just flooded the channel10:42
NoUse!tell ben__ about flood10:42
gnomefreakben__: comment out that repo than run apt-get update10:42
kspath_Mewshi: apt-cache search enlightenment10:42
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MTecknologyHow can I remove OpenOffice.org completely and install just OO2.org10:42
Mewshiyes, i know.  it's not in there10:42
gnomefreakMTecknology: on breezy?10:42
void^ben__: the answer is: they don't have 64bit binaries there.10:42
drew_nouse http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14928 thats the output of 'mount'10:42
MTecknologygnomefreak, dapper10:43
MTecknologyo10:43
kspath_Mewshi: What is not in where?10:43
gnomefreakMTecknology: dapper has OOo2 already10:43
MTecknology:S10:43
luis__Belathor: I'd like to see that, can you provide me a link? nothing is found under 'search' using those keywords10:43
gnomefreakMTecknology: it just changed names10:43
sybaritenNoUse: need to search locally, for what i have installed .... not for what is available for download10:43
MTecknologyok10:43
MTecknologyty10:43
ben__wait so your saying I cant run wine on my system?10:43
Mewshienlightenment is not in there10:43
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NoUsesybariten dpkg -l will output all packages and their states10:43
NoUsedrew_ what message do you get when you try to write to /media/hda510:43
drew_I cant10:43
drew_it just says u dont have permissions10:44
gnomefreakdrew_: use sudo10:44
drew_then what gnome10:44
void^ben__: did you read the website? winehq.com? quote: "Currently, we only have i386 binary packages available. If you do not use an i386 architecture, or wish to compile the package in a special or optimized way, you can build the wine package using the source repository instead. To do this, ..."10:44
MTecknologyIs it possible to fully boot and switch between 2 operating systems10:44
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Mewshienlightenmemnt isn't in apt10:44
NoUsegnomefreak he shouldn't have to, its mounted umask=000010:44
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gnomefreakdrew_: to get permissions use sudo10:44
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drew_yea but thats only in termianl10:44
drew_terminal10:44
bsdfoxhow can I get my system to not autoload the madwifi modules on boot? I want it to use the wired NIC instead10:45
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czambranbsdfox, you should be able to use both10:45
bsdfoxczambran:  eth0 isn't getting an IP from DHCP when the wifi card is up10:46
drew_yea but gnome thats in termianl only10:46
kspath_Mewshi: sudo apt-cache showsrc enlightenment  shows it is in universe10:46
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NoUsedrew_ run this in a terminal 'touch /media/hda5/test.txt'10:46
ben__thank you, void^10:46
Mewshiok... well, i just installed ubuntu... what's universe?10:46
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czambranbsdfox, deactivate the wifi10:46
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ben__it doesnt give me the error message now but i still hav to try installing it10:46
bsdfoxczambran: that'll keep it from loading?10:46
MTecknologyIs it possible to fully boot and switch between 2 operating systems that are installed on the same computer?10:46
czambranbsdfox, Ubuntu should remember, and it will keep deactivated10:46
bsdfoxI'm pretty sure I tried that10:46
bsdfoxok I'll try again thanks10:46
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czambranbsdfox, that works on my laptop10:47
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sybaritenNoUse: thats what i wanted, thanks!10:47
Mewshiso, i'm running 5.10... is there a newer version?10:47
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czambranMTecknology, dual boot?10:47
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drew_nouse it well didnt do anything10:47
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luis__where can I find the 'upcoming events' page?10:47
NoUsedrew_ that means you have write permissions10:47
gnomefreakMewshi: in the next 24hrss yes10:47
Mewshioh... my god... >.<10:47
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NoUsedrew_ log out and gnome and then log back in10:47
MTecknologyczabran, I have the dual boot set up, but I want to run them at the same time10:47
sethWhat FS does Ubuntu use??10:47
Mewshido i have to upgrade with it?  Like, do i have to download a new iso and whatnot?10:48
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NoUseseth ext310:48
Mewshior can i just update the repositories?10:48
drew_Im upgrading though to 6.06 so I cant log out10:48
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ben__void^: now when I search for wine nothing comes up except some other unrelated things10:48
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drew_and it still wont let me rename the files in it10:48
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NoUsedrew_ ok, well then when you are done, log out and back in10:48
drew_ok10:48
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viajerohi all10:48
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h3h_timohow do i remove all kde applications and data?10:48
NoUse!removekde10:49
ubotuWant to remove gnome/kde completely? Look at debfoster, it's a great help10:49
drew_and after that I got to install java all over again(yeppie :-( )10:49
DosoI know that daper drake will be released on 01.06 .. anyone got a ETA? I mean will it be released at 0:01 or might it not be worth it staying up all night to wait for it? :] 10:49
sethOk... I am sorry but how do I RAID the two firewire drives??10:49
sybaritenwhat are the ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop packages ??10:49
MTecknologyczabran, do you know how?10:49
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Mewshiare there any other repositories i should add?  IE, ones that contain Enlightenment?10:49
void^ben__: huh? what are you trying to do?10:50
viajeroI just installed Dapper on an Acer Aspire 5500. Install went fine. Ran update to get new packages. Now networking is broken. :(10:50
apokryphossybariten: both metapackages; former gives you the standard base ubuntu installation without X etc; ubuntu-desktop gives you the full ubuntu install, with gnome desktop etc10:50
czambranMTecknology, other that using some kind of virtualization. No10:50
luis__where can I find the 'upcoming events' page?10:50
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drew_why does java have to be so hard to install10:50
zeRDoso: the human beings needs sleep and Ubuntu, but sleep comes first :D10:50
kspath_!tell viajero about dapper10:50
sybaritenuh, are people really that lost that they queue up for the dapper release like geeks for a fantasy movie ?  i've seen like 10 questions now on whether dapper will be release tomorrow or today10:50
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Belathorluis__: Go to the Fridge at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/10:50
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MTecknologyczabran, you mean like vmware?10:50
rambo3!tell drew_  about easyubuntu10:50
czambrandrew_,  because it is proprietary10:51
NoUsedrew_ licencing10:51
Mewshicould someone please help me get enlightenment on here?10:51
czambranMTecknology, yes o r qemu10:51
luis__Belathor, ah thank you :)10:51
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gnomefreakubotu tell Mewshi about e1710:51
drew_can i get that on synapatic rambo10:51
MTecknologyczabran, but those require running an image, right?10:51
Belathorno problem :D10:51
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simian__i'm following a php beginners tutorial. But when I try to run the script through a browser from /var/www    i get a message saying unknown file type10:51
sybaritenapokryphos: ok .. how should i interpret that answer. What is a metapackage? Or, let me ask like this: if i have a ubuntu install with gnome and the desktop and all, how come i dont have ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base?10:51
AgrajagYou can give VMWare direct access to a disk10:51
czambranMTecknology, sort of10:51
gnomefreakMewshi: your pm has the instructions10:51
neoXitedrew_: it's fairly easy using java-package10:51
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MTecknologyaight, not what i want then10:52
drew_but can I get easy ubuntu on synapatic10:52
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apokryphossybariten: re: metapackage: /msg ubotu metapackage10:52
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NoUsedrew_ no, follow the instructions on their website10:52
sixtymhzsimian__ : Doyou have php install?10:52
sybaritenapokryphos: very clever name for the bot10:52
viajerokspath_: ack10:53
apokryphossybariten: you can quite easily have gnome etc without having either of those. ubuntu-desktop brings in *all* packages that an ubuntu installation would have; if you removed, i.e. gaim, that metapackage would need to be removed as well10:53
drew_oh snap I got to find my python tut again10:53
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simian__sixtymhz: yes10:53
Mewshiin those directions, the first part where you install stuff, it says "Could not find package sqlite3"10:53
lmhhi all, have to write a new xorg.conf for my laptop. is there any tool to do this for me?10:53
NoUsedrew_ you don't need to know python to run easyubuntu10:53
sybaritenapokryphos: ok. this is deep. but i think i understand. part of it.10:53
apokryphossybariten: it's not the best way of handling depends/selections IMO, but it's the debian/ubuntu way with APT.10:53
simian__sixtymhz: php mysql mysql-php php-cgi10:53
sybaritenok10:53
p_mas1what IDE do the posse here use for php ?10:54
apokryphossybariten: well, let me know if you have a problem with any particular part and I'll try to explain further =)10:54
sybaritenmaybe this is why i've had some gnome applet complaints every time i start X10:54
rambo3lmh yeah its called gedit , or /msg ubotu fixres10:54
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drew_no I started learning python last nite10:54
NoUsedrew_ oh ok10:54
rockzmanchecking for pkg-config... yes10:54
rockzmanconfigure: error: glib2 not found10:54
sybaritenapokryphos: no real problem yet ... i was told to install ubundu-dekstop and ubuntu-base in a guide, so i did, and apt didnt complain what i can see, it downloaded a bunch of stuff. thanks10:54
rockzmancan someone help10:54
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MewshiCould someone tell me what i need to do to get the directions on the ubuntu wiki about installing e17 to work?  for the installing libraries part, it says "Couldn't find sqlite3"10:55
NoUserockzman what are you trying to compile?10:55
apokryphossybariten: if you're upgrading the old way with dist-upgrade, you should certainly make sure that you have those packs, yes.10:55
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rockzmanNoUse: obtuner-0.310:55
drew_dangit I get an error while getting the stable release10:55
sybaritenapokryphos: yeah dist-upgrade is what i am gonna use, i believe10:55
NoUserockzman you need to install the -dev package of glibc10:56
drew_Your sources.list does not match your system configuration.10:56
drew_Either you have changed your sources.list or an system10:56
drew_upgrade has failed. EasyUbuntu will not run unless these are fixed!10:56
NoUserockzman get it in synatpic10:56
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rockzmanNoUse: ok gimme a min10:56
apokryphossybariten: APT requires those packages to successfully perform the upgrade; it tells it which packages it needs for the new upgrade.10:56
tarvidwhich utility is easiest for reading db files?10:56
drew_wait nm Im upgrading prob why10:56
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rambo3Mewshi, just install sql lite lib10:56
TachyonHi, I have a question.  When I upgrade to Dapper, do I need to change my sources file first?  Is there a link to a documentation page with the necessary changes outlined?10:57
sybaritenok, so theres this part in my guide that says i should "prevent the upgrade from replacing your sun or IBM java". They point to a .deb file i should wget. Now, deb files are platform dependent arent they? I'm on a Mac and although the word "mac" is in the URL, i suspect this guide was written for intel users10:57
Spec!upgrade10:57
apokryphosTachyon: /msg ubotu upgrade10:57
rockzmanNoUse: i dont have it on my packages list10:57
rockzmanNoUse: only glibc-doc10:57
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mar10hello, i'm looking for a list of packages, which is on dapper drake cd, any ideas, where to look?10:57
apokryphossybariten: debs aren't platform independent; they're only used on debian-based systems.10:57
ben__wtf does "child process failed" mean?10:58
apokryphossybariten: if you mean architecture independent, then the answer is: generally no, but some are. They're labelled with noarch in the name.10:58
Tachyonapokryphos: Thanks10:58
rockzmanubotu tell ben__ about language10:58
sybaritenapokryphos: ok there is no "noarch" in the name of this package10:59
ben__help: http://pastebin.com/74989810:59
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jessy_is ubuntu realeased ?10:59
apokryphossybariten: what is it exactly you're trying to do, though? Also, link to the guide?10:59
apokryphosjessy_: ubuntu dapper? No, not yet.10:59
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UserName14something has gone and i cant remove proftpd even with a purge. It is not working properly and it wont until i can do a reinstall is there a way to get rid of it and or the error preventing me10:59
rockzmanNoUse: only glibc-doc i do have in my packages list10:59
wykhi10:59
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ShadowNovaI'm trying to enable direct rendering on my ati card, and it won't. I even installed the driver and it still won't work.11:00
jessy_apokryphos, how many hours lefts ?11:00
sybaritenapokryphos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes   , part three11:00
Tachyon3 hours ^_^11:00
jessy_hmm ok11:00
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tkrinanyone running dapper on a PowerBook G4 and know how to resolve horrible audio quality?11:00
Tachyon2 hours now . . .11:00
jessy_in france it's 11h05pm :D11:00
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apokryphosjessy_: some time tomorrow :). Predictions are for around 10 AM11:00
apokryphos*GMT11:00
TachyonAh11:00
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sybaritenapokryphos: i needed to go from hoary to breezy ... the thing is, now that i've been sitting here for a while i cant remember any longer what software i originally needed to install, that required this upgrade. This is so typical for *nix .....11:01
void^ben__: did you run `apt-get build-dep wine`? did you install build-essential?11:01
UserName14something has gone and i cant remove proftpd even with a purge. It is not working properly and it wont until i can do a reinstall is there a way to get rid of it and or the error preventing me11:01
assasukasseand for that time the server wil be so busy we won't download anything..11:01
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YoManWazapShadowNova forget it it wont work...I have the same problem...11:01
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sybaritenah, now i remember ... i wanted XFCE11:01
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rambo3ShadowNova, apt-cache-policy linux-restricted-modules-(uname -r)11:01
jsbhi!11:01
rambo3ShadowNova, apt-cache-policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)11:01
apokryphossybariten: the only thing you have to do is, (i) make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed, (ii) change all occurences of "breezy" to "dapper" in /etc/apt/sources.list; (iii) sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:01
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sybaritenapokryphos: i'm not going from breezy to dapper, i'm going from hoary to breezy11:02
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sybaritenapokryphos: but maybe the methodology is the same ......11:02
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apokryphossybariten: oh sorry, yeah; all occurences of hoary to breezy then11:02
apokryphosyes11:02
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jsbIs there anyone who knows how to start 3D acceleration on my PC?11:03
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muszekhi11:03
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apokryphoshello11:03
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jsbATI radeon 9600 970011:03
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ben__yes i ran apt-get build-dep wine first11:03
petrikCan someone walk me through transferring files from one ubuntu box to another?11:03
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pricechildhey.. where's the xgl thread gone on the forums :(11:04
pricechildsince they closed dapper i can't get it through my bookmarks :(11:04
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apokryphospricechild: #ubuntuforums11:04
sybaritenapokryphos: is it safe/fair to say that any line in a ubuntu sources.list always has an occurrence of breezy, hoary, dapper or anyotherstupidjungleanimal in it ... and that this is the way you upgrade between versions? (by simply changing that one variable, in every instance)11:04
muszekI'm confused by different answers I get... I've been on dapper for a week or so... will I need to do a dist-upgrade once the "final" version is released?11:04
pricechildok sorry11:04
pricechildcya11:04
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apokryphossybariten: pretty much, yes.11:04
Specmuszek: probably not11:04
muszekSpec: probably?11:04
Specmuszek: you can do it anyways though if you feel like it :p11:04
void^ben__: "did you run `apt-get build-dep wine`? did you install build-essential?" <- note the 2nd part11:04
sybaritenapokryphos: ok ekhfaristou for the help!11:05
igorzolnikovwhen will be released Dapper?11:05
jsbwhy ubuntu doesn't support 3D acceleration for ATI 9600/9700?11:05
Specigorzolnikov: read topic11:05
apokryphossybariten: though actually now as I remember the standard for backports was changed; hm. Doing the above instructions will certainly work smoothly, but to get the total new default sources.list it might be worth replacing your current one with the one on /msg ubotu sources.list11:05
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YoManWazapno forums for Dapper by the moment....The Dapper Drake development forum has now been closed.11:05
Specjsb: probably no drivers for it - do you feel like writing them?11:05
apokryphosigorzolnikov: some time on the 1st of June11:05
muszekSpec: how do I know if I need to do it?11:05
Specmuszek: It'll tell you if there were packages kept back - if so, do dist-upgrade11:05
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muszekSpec: I see, thank you.11:06
jsbI tryed to install fglrx drivers for xorg...but no results11:06
igorzolnikovin russia 1 june now...11:06
Pip!dapper11:06
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then11:06
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ben__void^: i just followed the directions on the wine website11:06
rambo3i have 3d acc on radeon 960011:06
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saxinjsb, you need to restart X11:06
smaxHow much time letter with my daper cd's would be going to Ukraine? ( i'm sory my English is awful but i think you know what i mean)11:06
MrErnstif i choose to  Overwriting the Windows bootloader Using the LiveCD, so that instead of booting windows boot ubuntu, will i be able to choose from a boot menu?11:06
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Pipstill beta ?11:06
Specmuszek: as far as i know dist-upgrade does more in-depth dependency checks, etc etc11:06
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jsbdone...no way11:06
chibanAnyone want to help me get X started up?11:06
Specsmax: how much time does it usually take to ship something from the USA to Ukraine?11:07
YoManWazapjsb forgetit it wont work... last version of xorg-driver-fglrx in repositories seem to be broke11:07
void^ubotu: tell ben__ about build-essential11:07
eruswhat should i do if i just messedup my xorg config and it wont start? how to conigure it? (from shell)11:07
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sybaritenapokryphos: ok, i'm just interested in getting a "maxed out" sources.list that will give me access to as many packages as possible for my ubuntu release and my architecture11:08
apokryphoserus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:08
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smax<Spec> smax: how much time does it usually take to ship something from the USA to Ukraine?>> I think that it taken ship from Africa )11:08
sybariten!easysource11:08
erusok thanks11:08
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:08
apokryphossybariten: /msg ubotu easycourse11:08
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apokryphosor there =)11:08
jsbYoManWazap: broke! how can you know this?11:08
Specsmax: really? :p11:08
sybaritenhehe11:08
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ben__void^: what's !gcc?11:08
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MTecknologyHow can I read/write a few OO2.org files in Ubuntu that live on an NTFS partition that is mounted?11:08
apokryphos863 :)11:08
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dmesghi11:09
SpecMTecknology: Is the NTFS partition mounted with captive-ntfs?11:09
LastinusMTecknology: libntfs?11:09
void^ubotu: tell ben__ about gcc11:09
smaxThen it would be better for me to download from net iso image )11:09
MTecknologyidk11:09
chibanHave an interesting problem with X, here's what the log reports at the very end. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is where its at under "chibi"11:09
dmesgany one knwos how to insrall a gdm theme?11:09
jsbYoManWazap: I downloaded ATI drivers from ati website, and it doesn't work too!11:09
YoManWazaperus in recovery mode after rebbot type as a super user: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose ati driver others answers by default11:09
sybaritenapokryphos: btw who needs deb-src to be activated ?11:09
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SpecMTecknology: if you want to read and write to ntfs you need to use captive-ntfs to mount the drive11:09
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SpecMTecknology: if you want to just read, you can mount it with libntfs(i think)11:09
apokryphossybariten: it's used for when you want access to src-rpms or to be able to get build-dependencies11:09
PrimoTurboWill Dapper Drake be release exactly after midnight?11:10
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apokryphoserr, or just src11:10
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SpecPrimoTurbo: no11:10
gnomefreakPrimoTurbo: read the topic11:10
gnomefreakwithin 24 hrs11:10
SpecPrimoTurbo: it'll be released when it's finished -- since there's lots of timezones, there is no exactly midnight11:10
MTecknologySpec, can I get captive-ntfs through repo?11:10
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sybaritenapokryphos: ok, i cant remember having had the need for that. thx for the help11:10
PrimoTurboI see so no universal time...11:10
ben__void^: so i should install that and then it will work?11:10
gnomefreakMTecknology: no and its not safe either11:10
Specnope11:11
Specit's safe enough :p11:11
PrimoTurboalright I can wait11:11
Spec!captive11:11
ubotucaptive is, like, a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.11:11
chibanThats awesome!11:11
void^ben__: perhaps.11:11
gnomefreakben__: instead of gcc install build-essential11:11
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void^!gcc11:11
ubotusomebody said gcc was the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'11:11
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Specbah, well, -I- use captive.ntfs and it works fine ;)11:11
MTecknologyaight, i'll leave it alone then11:11
chibanOh, whats the command to update from 6.06 beta to full?11:11
Specwhy do you need gcc?11:11
trappistI'd like more information on the "It does not work properly with Ubuntu" part.11:11
hollywoodbchiban: post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf as well11:11
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apokryphoschiban: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:11
YoManWazapjsb seem to be that restricted package in repositories keep asking for older versions of glibc...anyway for sure thats the conclusion that people have on ubuntu forums11:12
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gnomefreakchiban: gksudo "update-manager -d"11:12
chibanhollywoodb: Oh you know what.. I didn't check that. I'll look before posting... I just switched computers and its not recognizing the graphics card (nvidia-glx-legacy probably)11:12
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gnomefreakapokryphos: have they opened up the auto upgrade?11:12
SurfnKiddude this ati setup thing doesnt have 1280x800 this sucks11:12
SurfnKidjust 1280x96011:12
PrimoTurboAre they still sending out cds?11:12
smaxI've got 1 question daper repo's is RC or normal version now?11:12
gnomefreakPrimoTurbo: yes11:13
Flannelsmax: still RC, until the release.11:13
rockzmanHow do I check my network settings?11:13
apokryphosgnomefreak: it was closed?11:13
erusthanks again :D11:13
ben__void^: it says that build essential is already the latest version11:13
Mysta_rockzman: ifconifg11:13
PrimoTurbogreat, will there be a dvd with all 3 releases kubuntu, ubuntu, etc11:13
gnomefreaksmax: right now rc but if you are up to date there will not be any more updates till after release11:13
Mysta_rockzman: ifconfig, sorry11:13
rockzmanMysta_: ty11:13
UserName14I have a feeling i need to stop a process before i can delete it, at the moment i ccant delete it. init.d is a no go what other ways can i stop a process thru the command prompt11:13
apokryphosPrimoTurbo: unfortunately not. The DVDs cointain desktop+alternate11:13
hollywoodbchiban: either your Section/EndSection markers are messed up, your Screen section is messed up, or you should just comment out the BusID line I imagine, but it would help to see it11:13
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jsbYoManWazap: thanks for this info...no other ways to start 3D acc on my PC?11:13
chibanapokryphos: How would I find out the busid of my device? And Is the identifier important?11:13
Speclspci -v11:13
gnomefreakapokryphos: i didnt think they had the option in update && dist-upgrade (you still had to change the list)11:14
Specchiban: ^^11:14
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chibanhollywoodb, apokryphos pasting it up11:14
PrimoTurbowhat is desktop+alternate?11:14
drew_xfce11:14
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apokryphosgnomefreak: really? I'm pretty sure that all the devs use just the same repos...11:14
smaxWhat happend whith my OS if i plug Debian repo's11:14
apokryphosPrimoTurbo: desktop is a live cd with an installer; alternate is the old classical text installation.11:15
apokryphossmax: caboom11:15
PrimoTurboI see11:15
apokryphoswell, likely to get a lot of problems11:15
UserName14I have a feeling i need to stop a process before i can delete it, at the moment i ccant delete it. init.d is a no go what other ways can i stop a process thru the command prompt (telling me how to remove stuff from the system startup would also solve the problem)11:15
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ben__FUCKING PEICE OF SHIT11:15
ben__LINBLOWZ11:15
Speclanguage11:15
drew_man linux takes forever with updaes11:15
drew_updates*11:15
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redguy!ops11:15
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!11:15
sybaritenben__: hehe, having problems ?11:15
chibanredguy: beat me to it11:16
jsbok! so, no 3D with ubuntu on a PC with ATI Radeon Mobility 9600...ok! I'll use windows xp for games, etc!11:16
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smaxMy friend have been installed Gnome from Debian repo and it work's faster than Ubuntu ( the same version)11:16
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jsbno 3D acceleration11:16
joelito@drew it happens usually around a new release11:16
YoManWazapjsb trust me Id tryed everything.... by the moment the only thing is wait to see if there is a new version of xorg-driver-fglrx in the release of Dapper...since i have upgrade my kernel to 2.6.15-23 thre is no more 3D acceleration for my Radeon...11:16
sybaritenwe've all been there. its linux. take a deep breath, keep the valium bigpack nearby11:16
redguychiban: huh?11:16
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neoXiteso other than a version number, rc and final repo arent going to be much different, are they?11:16
chibanapokryphos: I have no clue how to paste a file to the ubuntu paste with w3m X-x11:16
gnomefreakyou snuck in there11:16
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drew_well joel it aint much slower than last time I updated11:16
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nbx909is this about dapper now or do i need to go to #ubuntu+1 ?11:16
drew_(why did I have to mess up ubuntu why?)11:16
philuk86is ubuntu.con down?11:16
apokryphosnbx909: +1 still11:16
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Seveaschiban, wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin11:17
nbx909apokryphos, ty11:17
gnomefreakphiluk86: no11:17
Seveasecho foo | python pastebin11:17
apokryphosphatmonkey: not here11:17
jsbYoManWazap: ok, grazie! we stay here and hope on future!11:17
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p_mashanyone know a Linux ftp client like Filezilla ?11:17
visik7p_mash: what filezilla has than ftp:// hasn't ?11:18
chibanSeveas: That is the most useful tool ever11:18
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p_mashfilezilla is WIndows..11:18
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chibanapokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1493011:18
smaxwhich file manager is beter. Krusader is full sh*t11:18
sybaritenuhm, do i need a tailormade sources.list for my PPC architecture?  i mean, is there a PPC variable in there somewhere?11:19
gnomefreakSeveas: theres a problem with line #166 data is nto defined11:19
sybariteni didnt think so before, but now i see that the source-o-matic thingie has a tickbox for i386/PPC11:19
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YoManWazapjsb yes sir that it...be confindent that we will be getting back 3D acceleration in Dapper11:19
Seveasgnomefreak, line 166 of what?11:19
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gnomefreakSeveas: the pastebin code11:19
apokryphossmax: language, please :). Though Konqueror is fine; why use krusader?11:19
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slackernp_mash: you could try out gftp11:19
Flannelp_mash: you can use nautilus (that's the file browser) for FTP, although filezilla is coming out with a linux port.11:19
jsbputting vga=791 on /boot/grub/menu.lst I can get a framebuffer resolution 1024x768. But...what about 1200x800?11:19
gnomefreakSeveas: i used wget and got it but running echo command it gave me that error11:20
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hollywoodbchiban: comment the BusID line as well as the last 3 lines (about DRI) in your xorg.conf11:20
Flannelp_mash: just go to places > connect to server (or something like that)11:20
chibanjsb: Naw, it doesn't support wvga sadly. I wish it did.11:20
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chibanhollywoodb: Working on it11:20
SymmHomelo all11:20
SymmHomehrmmm anyone around I can speak to about becoming an official ubuntu mirror?11:20
p_mashslackern: yea got that.. would like something with a "site manager" like filezilla though !11:20
chibanhollywoodb: and then just startx?11:20
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smaxNo, i want a file manager gui with 2 windows, konqueror is too slow as for me I want somthin like total komander11:20
hollywoodbchiban: yeah, try it11:21
SymmHomeits one of the few things that I havent really investigated becoming an official mirror for on our new mirror server (that mirrors virtually everything else you can think of)11:21
chibanhollywoodb: you're a miracle worker11:21
jsbchiban: ...hmmm. Why, when I've installed SUSE, I got a splashscreen (during boot time) with a good resolution?11:21
Seveasgnomefreak, fixed11:21
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gnomefreakok ty11:21
GoClickSymmHome that'd take a crapload of bandwidth you know11:21
slackernp_mash: hmm, isn't the bookmarks in gftp like a sitemanager? or maybe you mean some other kind of sitemanager?11:21
chibanjsb: I don't know, I was just trying to get a nice widescreen res on my laptop, it said it wasn't supported (for terminals)11:22
p_mashslackern: almost...11:22
SymmHomeGoClick trust me11:22
SymmHomeI can afford the bandwidth11:22
SymmHomejust like I can afford the disk space11:22
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chibanhollywoodb: Thanks alot... y ou wouldn't know what I need to put in the fstab so regular users can read a ntfsmount?11:22
SymmHomeI run the south african national research network11:22
petrikHaving trouble trying to move files between two ubuntu machines. anyone got any experience in this?11:22
SymmHomeand I want to be able to ptu the stuff on the backbone so that the hundreds of thousands of students behind my network can get faster access to it11:22
smaxhow can i change my locale in 6.06 from UTF-8 to KOI8-U11:23
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kehermanAt what time exactly will the final ISO image be built?  and then at what exact time will it be distributed?  I want to mirror it...11:23
SeveasSymmHome, please contact Znarl on #ubuntu-mirrors11:23
SeveasHe is mirror admin11:23
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YoManWazaphollywoodb were you able to get 3D acceleration running ati-driver-installer-8.25.18-x86 ??11:23
SymmHomethanks Seveas11:24
eggzecksybariten, you can just do this (if you're on gnome): gksudo "update-manager -d"11:24
smaxGayTZ11:24
sybaritensorry, but i just have to ask again ... i have copied a sources.list for breezy, from the ubuntu pastebin. Any chance it is specific for intel? I have PPC and dont wanna break the system now when i do apt-get dist-upgrade11:25
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chibanhollywoodb: Thanks a million for doing that, you saved me and my friend alot of work. Much appreciated!11:25
sybariteneggzeck: hmmmm ok?  i'm kinda following a guide here, from the wiki  ;-)11:25
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FoxHunter_<eggzeck>  sybariten, you can just do this (if you're on gnome): gksudo "update-manager -d" | it's "gksu" aktually11:25
Seveassybariten, that sources.list will work fine on ppc11:25
chibanSeveas: Thanks for the useful script11:25
eggzecksybariten, I showed you how, and don't copy sources.list, you should make sure it's right, or use source-o-matic11:25
tiagoboldtis the dapper drake release exact time already known?11:25
smaxhow can i change my locale in 6.06 from UTF-8 to KOI8-U please help me11:25
sybaritensmax: forget it Jake, its chinatown11:25
eggzeck!easysource11:25
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:25
Seveaschiban, you should download it again, there was an error11:25
hollywoodbchiban: no problem11:25
YoManWazaptiagoboldt yes 00:00 UTC11:26
hollywoodbYoManWazap: no experience with ATI, always used nvidia myself11:26
GoClickSymmHome I sent you prv msg11:26
eggzeckFoxHunter_, gksudo works ;)11:26
smaxjake what does it mean11:26
FoxHunter_oh okay ;)11:26
tiagoboldthollywoodb tks :)11:26
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hollywoodbchiban: about the ntfs thing, I'd check the forums, that's pretty common11:26
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sybaritensmax: it was a quote from a great great film. You simply won't find anything that comes close to TC. We had this discussion in linux-help yesterday, BTW11:27
YoManWazaphollywoodb I see...this days are not been good for Ati....lucky Nvida people!!11:27
smaxK2 is a GUI program?11:27
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sybariteneggzeck: ok ... well i didnt even understand the source-o-matic fully. There are tickboxes for packages/sources11:28
sybaritenuh wait, maybe that is what enables/disables deb-src11:28
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eggzecksybariten, it's easy to understand11:28
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hollywoodbYoManWazap: I've seen a lot of ATI stuff in the forums, but I've never looked at it myself11:28
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eggzeckYoManWazap, please stop saying such things, ATI works fine11:29
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eggzeckand most do get it to work, it's only the user who doesn't know how11:29
sybaritensmax: K2 ?11:29
Slappyheh my ati works fine11:30
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eggzeckSee? A lot of ATI users don't even check out docs, they just want Ubuntu to do everything heh11:30
smaxK2 is a file manager on rusian ubuntu forum somebody told me that this is good file manager11:30
Silenceris there msttcorefonts for ubuntu 6.06 ?11:30
slackerneggzeck: isn't that a bit of the purpose? :)11:30
Slappyeasy install for me11:30
jsbeggzeck: I'm one of those users...could you help me?11:30
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tritiumyes, Silencer11:30
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eggzeckubotu tell jsb about ATI11:31
nahojhow many hours until the release of dapper?11:31
Silencercan I get info for that somewere :)11:31
eggzecknow read please :)11:31
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YoManWazapeggzeck i not saying otherwise...just yhat with the last version its imposible to get it working on Ubuntu kenel 2.6.15-2311:31
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tritium!info msttcorefonts dapper11:31
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ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB11:31
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sybaritensmax: ok, splendid11:31
Slappyworking here11:31
sybaritennow here goes the update!  see you on the other side11:31
tritiumThere you go, Silencer.  You'll see that it's in the multiverse repo11:31
eggzeckYoManWazap, hah, no it isn't11:31
Silencerok thx <311:32
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gareth_whats the package that has the WMV9 codec in the repos called/11:32
gareth_?11:32
sybaritenuh BTW can i still be in X when i do this?   :)11:32
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eggzecksybariten, yes, Applications->Accessories->Terminal11:33
smaxwhich good dc++ server you did you know?11:33
Knorrie!tell gareth_ about restrictedformats11:33
Knorriegareth_: in the wiki are links to it11:33
sybariteneggzeck: hehe, i do know how to find a terminal  :)  i just meant if the update needs to alter stuff that i am using11:33
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nicoles_bfhi. lpq says: lpq: error - no default destination available.11:34
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smaxwhich good dc++ server you did you know? Give me an advice11:34
tommoi know i have an X session running but another one started... i closed that but how do i get to the old one11:34
tommoim in monocrome shell mode now :(11:34
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eggzecksybariten, you can do it. I did11:34
tommoi can still hear gaim :|11:34
amphitommo: alt-f7 probably11:34
tommook ty11:34
H080J03how do you take a screen shot?11:34
yct:] 11:34
tritiumH080J03: hit the Print Screen button11:35
nicoles_bfI installed foo2zjs from http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/, and at least the hardware seems to work11:35
amphiH080J03: xwd is one prog11:35
H080J03it is not working11:35
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smaxverlyhub is a good server11:35
sybaritenhaha, crap, it needs to use like 5-600 megs of space. I think i have 750 free ,.....  will i need the double of that number it mentions ?11:35
tritiumH080J03: check your keyboard shortcuts, then11:35
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smaxis verlyhub a good dc++ server11:36
smax?11:36
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amphiH080J03: 'xwd -root | xwdtopnm | pnmtopng > screenshot.png' to take a screenshot of your desktop ;)11:36
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sybaritenor does apt use exactly the amount of disk space it mentions, and all temp things and so are calculated into that ?11:37
brandon_which ubuntu apps support dht for torrents?11:37
amphiH080J03: assuming you have netpbm installed11:37
petrikhow can I mount a file that is on another machine through the gui?11:38
H080J03hmm11:38
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FoxHunter_anyone succeded in playing sound with an Audigy2 in the latest live-cd?11:38
H080J03i don't have netpb installed11:38
H080J03*netpbm11:38
sybaritenpetrik: nautilus has some built in things .. check the gnome menu ?11:38
amphiH080J03: it's but an apt-get away...11:38
H080J03i know11:38
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sybaritenbrandon_: what is dht ?11:38
amphiH080J03: and useful11:38
H080J03i have sysnptic open11:38
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KeithWeisshari have pre-ordered dapper through shipit, when do i receive it11:38
kehermanIs the torrent file out for the final ISOs yet?  We can open up the torrent file, and leave it running until the ISo is available11:38
kehermanKeithWeisshar, like 6 weeks11:39
FujitsuA few weeks, KeithWeisshar .11:39
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brandon_sybariten: nm11:39
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avalentehello. has anyone seen a bug that i've reported on launchpad because of nvida-glx after Breezy->Dapper? It crashes the X server.. :\ It's a major drawback for users upgrading between versions...11:39
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crashputerHi all11:39
Fujitsuavalente, what number?11:39
H080J03hello11:40
avalenteFujitsu: 4701711:40
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KeithWeissharshould i still download the iso11:40
H080J03ok i can't find xwd11:40
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KeithWeissharhow do i get the i686 version11:40
livevilhi11:40
yctavalente, improperly working automatix even higher a drawback, ppl just should reinstall..11:41
KeithWeissharwill there be a dvd version of dapper11:41
gnomefreakKeithWeisshar: yes11:41
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gnomefreak!automatix11:41
ubotuwell, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.11:41
petriksybariten, Sorry I meant a drive not a file.11:41
Fujitsuavalente, that looks pretty nasty.11:42
livevilCan someone explain me how I can execute the commands inside a directory? When in guides I read something like:"You can install the VLC and its plugins by typing:11:42
livevil   make install", Where I can type the command?11:42
Ploujwhat are some ways to identify what ram speed my old laptop's mobo might support? It currently uses a PC2100 module. Can I use something like 2700?11:42
yct!easyubuntu11:42
ubotuwell, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.11:42
FujitsuIdeally it'd be fixed before the release, but that's just hours away.11:42
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gnomefreakKeithWeisshar: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/11:42
kahuunaw000w0000 ubuntu release party :P11:42
sybaritenpetrik: well, i suppose you could use samba or nfs, if thats what you mean ?  i mount my drives with samba, if they are in other machines11:42
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airbluelivevil: Open a terminal, "cd" to the directory, and typer in youre command.11:42
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amphilivevil: why are you building it yourself/11:43
amphi?11:43
h3h_timodoes anyone know if they fixed the problem that dapper was having with dhcp??11:43
livevilhow I can ope a terminal?11:43
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FujitsuAre those the finals, gnomefreak!?11:43
gnomefreaklivevil: applications>accessories>terminal11:43
KeithWeisshardoes the dvd still use text mode installer11:43
avalenteFujitsu: also thought that.. it's nasty because it messes up the X after update.. I posted it a few days ago, but it didn't even got "confirmed"11:43
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airbluelivevil: Well, like amphi said, why are you compiling it yourself? Are you sure you cant use Synaptic or apt-get?11:43
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avalenteyct: I didn't get you, but I don't use automatix11:44
gnomefreakFujitsu: not offical finals but they are pretty much finals11:44
amphilivevil: if you are asking such questions, you should probably not be doing this at all11:44
gnomefreakFujitsu: you wont see the finals for a few hours11:44
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petriksybariten, I spent a whole day trying to work with both of those and I don't know what I do wrong but can not get it working. It is between two ubuntu boxes. I have 120G to move of a NTFS drive so I can format it for linux11:44
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Fujitsugnomefreak, that's what I thought from watching #ubuntu-devel last night.11:44
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FujitsuHmm.11:44
avalenteyct, Fujitsu: the package nvidia-glx just gets deleted apparently11:44
gnomefreakFujitsu: they are done updating packages as of this am11:44
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airbluelivevil: Many programs can be downloaded using Synaptic from a GUI interface. Its not usually necessary to build things from source using "make".11:44
Fujitsuseb128 just said the final CDs had been rolled, and they would probably be the last.11:44
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FujitsuSchool now!11:44
yctavalente, i never used it either, I was planning to use it on Drake now, but got some warnings here11:45
gnomefreakavalente: i think it gets updated to a newer version and you will have to config it in xorg11:45
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kehermanWhere are the new torrent files!?!?!  cmon !!!11:45
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KeithWeisshardoes the dvd version of ubuntu still use the old text mode installer11:45
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avalentegnomefreak: i lost the nvidia-glx package at all... the X said it had no driver, so i've apt-get isntall nvidia-glx to bring it back11:46
gnomefreakKeithWeisshar: yes im fairly sure11:46
livevilok11:46
KeithWeissharis there a live installer in the dvd version11:46
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airbluelivevil: What are you trying to install?11:46
avalenteyct: ah.. so you're not saying the bug i reported was caused by automatix, but instead that automatix also had a bug... k :) got y now11:46
livevilok airblue, but on synaptic I can't found vlc11:46
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gnomefreakKeithWeisshar: i dont think so but dont know11:47
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yctavalente, neither, i was just suggesting you automatix (may i suggest you easybuntu now:)11:47
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gnomefreakavalente: automatix is garbage and avalente since breezy automatix and dapper automatix are different yes it could have been caused by that11:47
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yct~ i think the download sites will be drakedotted for some time after release:]  ~11:47
kasper_GAnybody has experience with either maple and/or mathematica? ... I am trying to use the key "^" but it doesn't function properly in either software. Anybody knows a solution?11:47
petriksybariten, When I ask file share to use smb it keeps throwing a username and password box at me and no matter what I enter I can not get further. Also workgroups remains as MSHOME even if I change it in network admin11:47
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avalentegnomefreak: i don't have automatix..11:47
livevilvlc11:47
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avalenteyct: ah.. I see..11:48
livevilI'm a beginner11:48
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gnomefreakavalente: did you when you did the upgrade?11:48
avalentenope11:48
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avalentenever used automatix11:48
mirakis there a way to not have iptable putting is logs on the tty ?11:48
livevilairblue: vlc11:48
airbluelivevil: Thats OK. VLC may not been in what we refer to as "repositories", which hold all the software11:48
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airbluelivevil: If you update your repositories list, it will appear11:48
avalenteI had the system going... updated to dapper RC, reboot, lost X, console, reinstall nvidia-glx that was missing, start X, up and going..11:48
Knorriemirak: look at the dmesg command, it's something like dmesg -1 or so11:49
r0xoRahhhh, back from errands :)11:49
airbluelivevil: What version are you running?11:49
livevilI'm trying11:49
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honkzillaI just did a fresh install of 6.06 LTS Release Candidate.  Network worked fine during the installation, but is only showing ethernet errors now (tulip driver).  Can someone help me troubleshoot this?11:49
r0xoRnot like y'all missed me or anything anyway :P11:49
gnomefreak!dapper11:49
ubotu**** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then11:49
livevilairblue: ubuntu11:49
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georgeguitarhello11:50
airbluelivevil: Which version? Breezy, Dapper (5.01, 6.06)?11:50
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gnomefreaklivevil: lsb_release -a to find out what verison of ubuntu you have11:50
r0xoRhi georgeguitar11:50
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r0xoRgeorgeguitar, do you in fact play guitar?11:50
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yctubotu, what timezone? i'll have 1st june in 10 minutes11:50
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, yct11:50
yct:)11:51
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Polibiohelo11:51
Lastinushmm, i suppose 6.06 is released on australian mirrors :D11:51
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petrikyct, I've had June first for 10 hours already :-)11:51
siriusnovayay11:51
livevilairblue it's 5.111:51
gnomefreakyct: when its changed back to here you will know not sure yet when11:51
siriusnovaDapper is almost released :P11:51
airbluelivevil: Ok, 1 sec11:51
livevilok11:52
yctpetrik, I'd feel cheated! :)11:52
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airbluelivevil: Go here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories.11:52
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Seveasairblue, NO11:52
Seveasairblue, ubuntuguide is bad11:52
Flannelairblue: ubuntuguide is no good.11:52
bobesponjatomorrow's iso will be desktop, install and live or only install and live? (beside the other server etc)11:52
mirakr0xoR: lol11:52
airblueOK11:52
Seveasbobesponja, desktop == live11:52
sybaritencrap, i actually think i got slower speeds by using my closest ubuntu servers, than the american ones11:52
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Polibiowhen I right-click, for example, a .pdf document, the sentence "Open with Acrobat Reader" appears two times.  How can I delete one of them?11:52
avalentegnomefreak: ah.. i did the update using the update-manager -d thing11:52
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livevildo you know if I can download some kind of firewall from synaptic?11:53
petrikyct, 14 to go and they'll have missed deadline ;-)11:53
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meccaquit11:53
airblueWhat should I use as a alternative?11:53
r0xoRmirak, i guess i'm funny today11:53
meccaoops11:53
avalentegnomefreak: I can't get the bug to be "confirmed" os that it might get fixed before relase:S11:53
Speclivevil: iptables11:53
Seveasairblue, help.ubuntu.com, wiki.ubuntu.com11:53
bobesponjaSeveas: and do you know if there are going to call them desktop or live?11:53
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Seveasbobesponja, desktop11:53
airblueGot it11:53
yctpetrik, anyway, still better than visto, or vista or what they call it11:53
bobesponjaSeveas: thanx11:53
Knorrielivevil: firestarter is nice for a simple firewall you can configure with a gui11:53
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iGamalivevil : www.easylinux.info check the site11:53
meccahey another complete newbie question... i changed monitors from a 21" crt to a 16:9 20" apple cinema display and the right side of my screen is all horizontal bars11:53
Specavalente: what bug?11:53
Seveasbobesponja, "live" and "install" are renamed to "desktop" and "alternate install"11:53
lukkettolivevil: firestarter11:54
meccais there a way to re-run the x config11:54
meccato reflect the new changes and autodetect the monitor11:54
mecca?11:54
Specdpkg-reconfigure <packagename for x>11:54
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wold#ubuntu-offtopic11:54
woldops11:54
wold:P11:54
Polibiowhen I right-click, for example, a .pdf document, the sentence "Open with Acrobat Reader" appears two times.  How can I delete one of them from the right click menu?11:54
paul_hey guys, how do i open up an xterm in root ?11:54
avalentespec 4701711:54
airbluelivevil: Follow these instructions: Open a terminal (Applications -> Acessories -> Terminal)11:54
paul_(i want to be able to click an icon to open a rootterm)11:54
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bobesponjaSeveas: I'm writing an app that download the ubuntu iso with bittorrent and burn them automatically on windows with cdrecord.exe using a Qt4 gui, that's why I'm asking :)11:55
meccaSpec, in that instance would that be xserver-xorg or xserver-common?11:55
meccaas the pkg11:55
_clempaul_ : sudo xterm should go I guess..11:55
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Specas far as i know11:55
paul_thnx11:55
gareth_i have a friend who installed linux then deleted the linux partiton. But grubs still there and he can't boot into windows. What can he do?11:55
Specbug #4701711:55
meccaSpec, its xserver-xorg... nm :)11:55
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Specgive me the bug Ubugtu!11:55
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paul_it worked11:55
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paul_thank you guys l8r11:55
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gnomefreakavalente: do you have the link for it?11:55
avalentehttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/4701711:56
gnomefreakty11:56
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Specsucky bug11:56
cached1 hour11:56
darichwooo just got me Dapper Drake working :)11:56
Knorriedarich: congrats11:56
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Mewshihow do i install xine?11:56
darichAti drivers..wireless and everything!11:56
cachedsudo apt-get install xine ?11:56
Polibioif Ubuntu isn't yet finished, how can it be that they say in the ship it pages that "approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-05-24"??11:56
visik7Mewshi: apt-get install xine-ui ?11:56
Mewshino, the libs...11:57
Specapt-get install gxine11:57
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darichthanks Knorrie btw11:57
cachedpolibio: you sure you didnt order breezy?11:57
Specapt-get install libxine-extracodecs libxine-dev libxine-main111:57
daricham a windows refugee11:57
darichso11:57
crimsunPolibio: they approved and sent your order on that date, not that they shipped it on that date.11:57
daricham loving Ubuntu a new challenge11:57
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avalenteSpec: i've used update-manager and changed nothing...maybe some package is removing the nvidia-glx one11:57
jsbubotu tell jsb about ATI11:58
Mewshilibxine1c2 - the xine video/media player library, binary files11:58
Mewshi <- this is what it says in apt-cache search xine, but when i use "Apt-get install libxinelc2" it says "Couldn't find package"11:58
cachedhmm you are right11:58
cached    *  10 CDs requested in 2006-05-25. 10 CDs approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-05-30. Please note requests usually take from 4 to 6 weeks to deliver, depending on the country of shipping.11:58
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cached59 minutes11:58
keherman59 minutes to what ?11:58
Seveasrelease will NOT be in 59 minutes11:58
Seveas10 hours is more likely11:58
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Seveasrelease team is going to bed RSN and will release after they woke up11:59
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Polibiocrimsun, but they say "sent to the shiping company"11:59
yctare they currently building it?:)11:59
kehermanSeveas, can the torrent not be made and given out, so that immediately when the ISOs are there, it begins downloading?11:59
SeveasPolibio, wrong message 11:59
crimsunPolibio: your /order/11:59
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Polibiook,11:59
todayisagifthow do install something i downloaded from the internet?11:59
cachedseveas: why didnt they just make it a cron job11:59
Spectodayisagift: that question is too vague.11:59
Seveascached, ROFL11:59
kehermantodayisagift, what kind of file?11:59
crimsunyes, because all major releases can be crontabbed.12:00

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