[12:00] <blaze> why is ./configure not starting at all?
[12:00] <blaze> help me, please
[12:00] <Jaak> But for a server it's ubuntu / null too?
[12:01] <blaze> ?
[12:01] <zcat[1] > for a server it should have asked you to pick a login and password..
[12:01] <eyequeue> server (versions back) asked me for root password
[12:01] <xnull> ll
[12:01] <xnull> same
[12:01] <Jaak> Well it didn'
[12:01] <Jaak> t
[12:01] <zcat[1] > weird.
[12:01] <Linuturk_NB> mmk, oem-config didn't work like I wanted it to
[12:01] <zcat[1] > init=/bin/bash I guess, and add one the hard way :)
[12:01] <Linuturk_NB> it didn't wipe out the old user and such and ask for a new one
[12:01] <Jaak> i will reinstall, it doesn't take as much time as xp, what is it 10/15 min?
[12:02] <Jaak> lol
[12:02] <xnull> f'RandolphCarter, same ..
[12:02] <Jaak> What are the advantages of a server?
[12:02] <xanavim> Jaak: it's pretty quick, depending on proc speed/hard drive speed etc.
[12:02] <Fly_Molo> ive been looking through the mirrors and i cant seem to find the MD5 files
[12:02] <zcat[1] > no advantages at all!!
[12:02] <NoUse> !tell Jaak about server
[12:02] <zcat[1] > disadvantages: no GUI
[12:02] <xanavim> Jaak: uses less hard drive space
[12:02] <xnull> grep -i vesa xorg.conf
[12:02] <xnull>         Driver      "vesa"
[12:02] <xnull> root@emi-desktop:/etc/X11# egrep -i fglrx xorg.conf
[12:02] <xnull>         Driver      "fglrx"
[12:02] <xanavim> Jaak: no irritating GUI, etc.
[12:02] <blaze> why is ./configure not starting at all?
[12:03] <xnull> 'RandolphCarter, why I have 2 drivers?
[12:03] <Jaak> lol
[12:03] <xnull> RandolphCarter, why I have 2 drivers?
[12:03] <Linuturk_NB> !oem-config
[12:03] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Linuturk_NB
[12:03] <NoUse> blaze please give us more information
[12:03] <zcat[1] > bah!! A full install uses less than 2G, you can't even buy a driver smaller than 60G these days..
[12:03] <blaze> i want to install my video drivers
[12:03] <blaze> p4m800ce-p4m800pro-cn-clexf40063-kernel-src_20051215-1.zip
[12:03] <zcat[1] > *drive
[12:03] <NoUse> blaze what kind of card?
[12:03] <Jaak> so server has no gnome user interface?
[12:03] <xanavim> zcat[1] : *I* can
[12:03] <blaze> NoUse, VN800 UniChrome Pro integrated graphics ( VN800 )
[12:03] <Fly_Molo> 404 Error
[12:03] <NoUse> blaze install the build-essential package
[12:03] <blaze> NoUse, it's here http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=101
[12:04] <blaze> i've installed it NoUse
[12:04] <zcat[1] > I can't .. I tried to find a 40G new recently.. 60G was the smallest they had.
[12:04] <NoUse> blaze and ./configure doesn't output any error messages?
[12:04] <xnull> RandolphCarter, restaring X again..
[12:04] <blaze> it says:
[12:04] <xanavim> Jaak: you can always apt-get install the GUI afterwards
[12:04] <NoUse> blaze don't paste in here
[12:04] <Linuturk_NB> fuck it, I'll just reinstall
[12:04] <xanavim> Jaak: but that defeats the purpose
[12:04] <Linuturk_NB> screw this OEM crap
[12:04] <blaze> it's only one line NoUse
[12:05] <NoUse> blaze ok
[12:05] <Jaak> yes
[12:05] <blaze> it says: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[12:05] <dizy> hi... is there anyway to get rid of the icons on the desktop... i have icons of my windows drives.. but its also in the "Places" menu so I was trying to get rid of them from the desktop
[12:05] <blaze> NoUse, any idea?
[12:05] <NoUse> blaze you need to cd into the directory that has the configure script before you can run it
[12:05] <blaze> can you help me with that package?
[12:05] <blaze> that i'm trying to install?
[12:06] <zcat[1] > I do the full install even on servers.. the extra space is minimal, and I can ssh -X and run GUI apps on the server from home. It's not even worth turning off GDM, the memory is uses is so minimal.
[12:06] <NoUse> blaze sorry, no
[12:06] <blaze> ok :( 10x anyway
[12:06] <Fly_Molo> can someone give me the link to the MD5 files please?
[12:06] <zcat[1] > perhaps if you're setting up an old P133 as a firewall it might be worth doing a server install I guess..
[12:06] <Fly_Molo> i cant seem to find them
[12:06] <HotDrive> good day all
[12:07] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872
[12:07] <Some_Person> what is the KERNELSRC?
[12:07] <niGhTm4r3> hey
[12:07] <niGhTm4r3> is there any way of recording the desktop?
[12:08] <zcat[1] > niGhTm4r3: recording as video or screenshot?
[12:08] <niGhTm4r3> video
[12:08] <Some_Person> Help me
[12:08] <Fly_Molo> ^was that the MD5 link?
[12:08] <niGhTm4r3> video+sound wont be bad either :D
[12:08] <zcat[1] > no way I know of.. use tvout and feed it into a capture card perhaps?
[12:08] <JonathanKent> wmvdmod.dll --- y need this decoder
[12:08] <JonathanKent> !wmvdmod.dll
[12:08] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, JonathanKent
[12:08] <JonathanKent> this dll
[12:08] <niGhTm4r3> dont have a capture card :|
[12:09] <nickrud> istanbul, I've heard that records the desktop
[12:09] <eyequeue> Fly_Molo, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/indices/md5sums.gz
[12:09] <Fly_Molo> ubotu: that link is down, Error 404
[12:09] <ubotu> Fly_Molo: I think you lost me on that one
[12:09] <zcat[1] > Actually that's something I want to do.. I need to make a video of compiz sometime..
[12:09] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872 PLEASE HELP ME
[12:09] <HotDrive> need help with webcam... :(
[12:09] <Fly_Molo> ah ok thank you
[12:09] <eyequeue> Fly_Molo, similar structure on other mirrors
[12:09] <Fly_Molo> do i copy and paste that then before the install
[12:09] <xnull> http://pastebin.ca/60072 any ideea ppl?
[12:09] <nickrud> niGhTm4r3, istanbul, according to the package description does video recording of the desktop
[12:09] <niGhTm4r3> zcat[1] , is compz easy to install/configure? :d
[12:10] <niGhTm4r3> ty, nickrud :P
[12:10] <zOap_std2> when is 6.06 released?
[12:10] <zcat[1] > nickrud: awesome! thanks.. saved me making up some cables :)
[12:10] <nickrud> zcat[1] , niGhTm4r3 I've never used it, mind you
[12:10] <rixxon> can i make the mail-notifification package open my gmail inbox in firefox?
[12:10] <xnull> f'skippy81, online ?
[12:10] <zcat[1] > niGhTm4r3: easy once you know how :)
[12:10] <zOap_std2> does 5.10 and 6.06 have ndiswrapper in kernel?
[12:10] <skippy81> hello xnull, your in luck the text highlight caught my eye :)
[12:10] <crimsun> zOap_std2: yes
[12:11] <niGhTm4r3> saw sume nice vids :D and wanted to show it off to my windows-users friends :D
[12:11] <skippy81> how are you getting on? xnull
[12:11] <niGhTm4r3> so they`ll quit that so called "os"
[12:11] <cwillu> Anybody know of a pam auth module that detmines success by exit code of a script, or otherwise allows the use of a script instead of writing a c module from scratch?
[12:11] <Some_Person> HELP ME!!! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872 HELP ME!!!
[12:11] <xnull> skippy81,  hi.. bad i can`t make my ati drivers to work
[12:11] <fv950008> hello
[12:11] <zOap_std2> crimsun, ok, thanks. I installed ndiswrapper from source. so that may be why I'm having troublee modprobing it..
[12:11] <xnull> skippy81,  http://pastebin.ca/60072 if you can take a look
[12:11] <fv950008> everybody
[12:11] <fv950008> iam from argentina
[12:12] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872
[12:12] <skippy81> xnull, ok but i assume it works apart from that output?
[12:12] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872
[12:12] <Fly_Molo> does the 64-bit verson of breezy support dual core?
[12:12] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872
[12:12] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872
[12:12] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872
[12:12] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872
[12:12] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872
[12:12] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872
[12:12] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872
[12:12] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872
[12:12] <Fly_Molo> stop spamming
[12:12] <skippy81> quit the spam
[12:13] <cwillu> you really don't like it here do you?  :)
[12:13] <Icomey> Alright, I'm having a small problem...
[12:13] <xnull> skippy81,  yep;.
[12:13] <Some_Person> Takes too long to get an answer
[12:13] <niGhTm4r3> Some_Person, wait maybe?
[12:13] <HotDrive> somegeek, patience is a virtue...
[12:13] <skippy81> ok xnull, i guess we may as well try removing and installing the drivers from scratch, but i must admit i dont think it will hep
[12:14] <nickrud> Some_Person, so we don't know. Kick us
[12:14] <niGhTm4r3> what if we all spammed like you did?
[12:14] <Fly_Molo> so does the 64-bit version of breezy support dual core AMDs
[12:14] <dsas> hmm, if that doesn't miss the point of pastebin.
[12:14] <skippy81> i assume those errors are all the features your card doesnt support
[12:14] <Centaur5> What's the easiest way to do internet routing with a server?  Any program to assist or does a script have to be made from scratch?
[12:14] <cwillu> nickrud;  don't give him ideas :)
[12:14] <xnull> skippy81,  I did that.. no help
[12:14] <nickrud> hrm, kick is a bad word here :)
[12:14] <Hso> question.. can someone try this link and tell me if they just get a blank page, please? http://www.basildon.gov.uk/80256B6400336782/WebLaunch/LaunchMe
[12:14] <nickrud> Said that to seveas once, and he did :)
[12:14] <skippy81> ok whats your card again, i will see if i can dig up anything specific about it on linux
[12:14] <user_> hola
[12:14] <Icomey> I'm unable to open Firefox or the Terminal on a default Ubuntu 5.10 Installation right now.
[12:14] <HotDrive> nickrud, any ideas on getting webcams to work?
[12:14] <xnull> skippy81,  maybe I have something wrong on xorg.conf?
[12:14] <user_> alguien que hable en castellanop?
[12:14] <nickrud> HotDrive, no I don't own one, sorry
[12:15] <zOap_std2> where can I find the download s for dapper? I only find it as an RC..
[12:15] <skippy81> bag xnull, i seriously doubt its xorg.conf related
[12:15] <user_> hola
[12:15] <Centaur5> user_: Las personas en #ubuntu-es hablan espanol
[12:15] <user_> si alguien habla en castellano que me conteste por favor
[12:15] <Fly_Molo> yo hablo espanol
[12:15] <Fly_Molo> que neccesita?
[12:15] <skippy81> although you could copy xorg.conf to pastebin for me to look at in case, but most importantly give me the exact model and make of you laptop xnull
[12:15] <user_> hola fly
[12:15] <Fly_Molo> buenas tardes user_
[12:16] <bluelotus> ;-D Anyone know how I can say <User username> defaultroot /some/dir/path/here </user> except in terms proftp will understand?
[12:16] <Booo> i am tring to install 5.10 on a macbook and the installer doesnt seem to see the hard drives. dmesg shows no entries for hard drives?
[12:16] <user_> quiero saber como encontrar un chat en castellano
[12:16] <Abo> anyone knows where does gaim store the sounds it plays?
[12:16] <user_> fly de donde eres?
[12:16] <xnull> skippy81, w8 to put xorg.conf
[12:16] <Fly_Molo> user_ wants to know how to find a chat in Castellano
[12:16] <Fly_Molo> ahorita me contestan
[12:17] <Spec> err, /usr/share/sounds/gaiom
[12:17] <Fly_Molo> es mi primera ves aqui
[12:17] <xnull> skippy81, http://pastebin.ca/60077
[12:17] <Spec> err, /usr/share/sounds/gaim/
[12:17] <Spec> Abo: ^^
[12:17] <Abo> Spec,  cheers
[12:17] <Booo> anyone?
[12:18] <leboff> any dmraid help yet?
[12:18] <Fly_Molo> must be a problem with OSx i believe Booo
[12:18] <Booo> is there a work around
[12:18] <Booo> i do not need os x on it
[12:19] <nickrud> Booo, your x86 mac uses a different boot mechanism than x86 pcs. There are workarounds, the one I saw was using the ntloader to bootstrap lilo
[12:19] <Some_Person> I need my Connexant modem to work for free.
[12:19] <Some_Person> On Ubuntu
[12:19] <nickrud> Some_Person, then run at 14.4k
[12:19] <r0xoR> misfit_toy, ping
[12:19] <Booo> nickrud: thanks you
[12:19] <Some_Person> 14.4 is too slow
[12:19] <amphi> Some_Person: use the linuxant driver free @ 14.4 ;)
[12:19] <Some_Person> any alternatives?
[12:20] <Some_Person> i cant get the 0.99 version (no limit) to work
[12:20] <amphi> Some_Person: reverse engineer the 'registration code' or whatever?
[12:20] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14872
[12:20] <ompaul> get an external serial port version
[12:20] <nickrud> don't get an ltmodem if you want 686 kernel ;(
[12:21] <riddlebox> does anyone know how I can create bar codes in linux?
[12:21] <amphi> Some_Person: it's probably just a good guy/bad guy jz or jnz, you just have to find it and flip it ;)
[12:21] <Sub> Riddell, with a pencil and good ruler...
[12:21] <Sub> ;)
[12:21] <nickrud> riddlebox, in openoffice, and there's xplot
[12:21] <Some_Person> can you do it for me? :)
[12:21] <leboff> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14875
[12:21] <leboff> thast after installing myth from synaptic
[12:21] <Some_Person> I'm a Linux Noobie
[12:21] <amphi> Some_Person: no
[12:21] <leboff> any help?
[12:21] <skippy81> xnull your xorg.conf is fine try typing this "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[12:22] <xnull> skippy81,  drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
[12:22] <Spec> uhhhmmm
[12:22] <amphi> Some_Person: that's nothing to with linux, just x86 asm
[12:22] <xnull> skippy81,  I got that in Xorg.0.log
[12:22] <Spec> riddlebox: the program "barcode" outputs to .ps files, or kbarcode
[12:22] <skippy81> paste the whole of xorg.0.log pls xnull
[12:22] <xnull> skippy81, w8
[12:22] <dsas> amphi: "just" asm ? ;)
[12:23] <skippy81> xnull control and c will exit the gears benchmark if you need to
[12:23] <xnull> skippy81, its not working..
[12:23] <Some_Person> Can someone please hack Linuxant for me??? :) :) :)
[12:23] <amphi> Some_Person: somewhere, when you enter yr code, there's a check, is the code good or not - if you're lucky it'll be done the stupidest way, and the real code will be strcmp'd with what you entered, and you can read the real code out of memory, but I doubt it
[12:23] <dizy> how can i connect to a network drive from the terminal ?
[12:23] <Spec> Some_Person: would that be unethical or illegal?
[12:24] <Some_Person> Dont care
[12:24] <amphi> Spec: both
[12:24] <Spec> Some_Person: i do
[12:24] <Spec> Some_Person: also, observe the CoC
[12:24] <amphi> Spec: I would think
[12:24] <Spec> failure to do so will lead to a ban
[12:24] <amphi> Some_Person: I've told you how to do it ;)
[12:24] <Spec> ie: don't ask people to 'hack' Linuxant
[12:24] <Some_Person> Does Linuxant ask for a code?
[12:25] <bobboy> i can't access any of the administration programs, any ideas what could be causing this?
[12:25] <xnull> skippy81, http://pastebin.ca/60080
[12:25] <amphi> Some_Person: yes - you pay them, and they give it to you
[12:25] <george_> is there a program like dvd dycrypter for linux?
[12:25] <Some_Person> i'll google for it :)
[12:25] <amphi> Some_Person: it works quite well, swsusp doesn't like the driver much, but otherwise it's ok
[12:26] <Some_Person> ok
[12:26] <BioVorE> george_: mplayer/mencoder will do it
[12:26] <george_> thanls BioVorE
[12:26] <BioVorE> george_: you tring to encode to xvid or something?
[12:27] <amphi> Some_Person: it's not very expensive
[12:27] <skippy81> xnull, open up your xorg.conf and comment out or delete the line in modules which loads "dri"
[12:27] <T-CAN> ubotu tell T-CAN about restrictedformats
[12:27] <george_> just remove copyrights so i can make a backup
[12:27] <BioVorE> ok
[12:27] <xnull> skippy81, Section "DRI"
[12:27] <xnull>         Mode         0666
[12:27] <xnull> EndSection
[12:27] <xnull> skippy81, delete that lines ?
[12:28] <skippy81> nope, leave that bit
[12:28] <Centaur5> george_: k9copy
[12:28] <skippy81> go up to the top, look for the modules section
[12:28] <amphi> george_: you can mencode it with -oac copy -ovc copy IIRC
[12:28] <Silencer> I need help
[12:28] <xnull> skippy81, then what I need to delete?..
[12:28] <amphi> george_: or vobcopy might do what you want
[12:28] <Silencer> I download test version 6.06
[12:28] <skippy81> Load    "dri" xnull
[12:29] <Silencer> is there way to upgrade 5.10 with it ?
[12:29] <Silencer> or I need to download packages over internet to update 5.10 ?
[12:29] <xnull> skippy81, done .. restart X?
[12:29] <nickrud> Silencer, just stick it in the cdrom, it should ask if you want to upgrade
[12:30] <Silencer> oky :)
[12:30] <Silencer> <3
[12:30] <Silencer> I was thinking i Need to download 800 mb :0
[12:30] <nickrud> Silencer, if you have gotten stuff off the net, it'll probably want to get those also
[12:30] <xnull> skippy81, brb restarting x
[12:30] <T-CAN> anyone know where i can get gstreamer0.8-mad i dont see it in the package installer
[12:31] <nickrud> T-CAN, you need to make sure your universe repository is enabled. Then you'll see it in synaptic
[12:31] <dsas> T-CAN: Have you enabled universe?
[12:31] <T-CAN> yeah
[12:31] <ajmal> yo
[12:31] <xnull> skippy81, ok.. done
[12:32] <xnull> skippy81, glxinfo  |grep -i direct
[12:32] <xnull> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:32] <xnull> direct rendering: No
[12:32] <ajmal> hi tous le monde
[12:32] <ajmal> bonne nuit
[12:32] <nickrud> !fr
[12:32] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:32] <zest> hi all over there
[12:32] <nickrud> ajmal, or english here :)
[12:33] <zest> someone any knowlegde about phion firewall and ipsec config ?
[12:33] <xnull> skippy81, on?
[12:33] <skippy81> xnull what does fglrxinfo say?
[12:34] <Xenguy> Hardware question: I have a dual-boot installation at work, and they are going to replace the motherboard soon.  A co-worker said to me 'good thing you're not running linux, because getting an IP address is tied to the MAC address, so you won't get an IP address once the motherboard is replaced'.  Does this make any sense to any here reading this?
[12:34] <skippy81> and try running the gears benchmark again
[12:34] <xnull> skippy81, working but no 3d..acc/
[12:34] <ajmal> qui parle fr ici
[12:34] <nickrud> Xenguy, no, unless you've defined the mac address in the interfaces file
[12:34] <xnull> skippy81, OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[12:34] <Xenguy> nickrud: I haven't, no
[12:34] <ajmal> excuse me
[12:35] <ajmal> i want to know my ip adresse
[12:35] <Xenguy> ajmal: ifconfig
[12:35] <nickrud> Xenguy, I've moved this hd from one machine to another, had no problems with ethernet
[12:35] <Touru> ajmal: http://whatismyip.com/
[12:35] <Xenguy> nickrud: but this is a motherboard, not a HD :-)
[12:35] <sloucher> i'm getting nothing but these errors when I run apt-get update (111 Connection refused)
[12:35] <sloucher>  Is there something going on?
[12:35] <Noah0504> Hey, I was just wondering what people thought.  I want to get back into programming.  Do you think I should learn C/C++ or something like Python?
[12:35] <skippy81> i dont understand how weve gone backwards, we had your card working yesterday
[12:36] <nickrud> Xenguy, mine was even more radical than a motherboard, if you think about it
[12:36] <ajmal> thanks every body
[12:36] <brettzilla> how do you create a link through the terminal to a folder?
[12:36] <xnull> skippy81, .. what next?
[12:36] <ollie> hi all !
[12:36] <Wyred> damnit
[12:36] <Chousuke> Noah0504: learn both. :P
[12:36] <brettzilla> i want to make a link to a newly mounted drive on my desktop, but the link would be in /media/
[12:36] <Chousuke> Noah0504: You could start with Python though.
[12:36] <Xenguy> nickrud: I've never had any problem with HD's, but that doesn't have anything to do with networking either
[12:36] <sloucher> brettzilla ln -l targettfolder newfolder
[12:36] <xnull> brettzilla : ln -s /usr/bla ~user/Desktop
[12:36] <Noah0504> Chousuke: hehe, Okay, that second answer was what I was looking for!
[12:37] <brettzilla> thank you!
[12:37] <Chousuke> Noah0504: though if you learn python first, C++ will be pretty painful :D
[12:37] <Chousuke> But I think you should know both.
[12:37] <Noah0504> Chousuke: Hmm...
[12:37] <nickrud> Xenguy, think about it. Moving a hard drive from one machine to another is more radical than just replacing a motherboard in one machine, with all other cards carried over.
[12:37] <skippy81> right we will just pull them xnull.
[12:38] <ollie> I search some peaople who interesed to create a design software, like kivio or visio, in gtk. I have already make some code but i need designer and som developer
[12:38] <ollie> who is interresed ?
[12:38] <HotDrive> need help teaching my driver to create device
[12:38] <Noah0504> Chousuke: Well, if I wanted to maybe pick back up on C++ (I learned a little C a few years ago), what would I need to get started?  Are there any packages I need to install?
[12:38] <Chousuke> Noah0504: python is an easy-to-understand language, but it has several nice things that C++ lacks, and if you try to learn C++ after python, you'll probably have at least some trouble coping with the lacking niceties. :)
[12:38] <Xenguy> nickrud: well this fellow is quite experienced with all things linux, networking, you name it, so it has me a bit concerned (to get back to my original issue :-)
[12:38] <Linuturk_NB> Ubuntu 6.06 is my new bread and butter folks. I've got a cash register I'm running it on. My printer was Plug and Play!!!
[12:38] <Linuturk_NB> i'm happy
[12:38] <Linuturk_NB> very happy
[12:39] <Chousuke> Noah0504: gcc/g++
[12:39] <T-CAN> bye all
[12:39] <xnull> skippy81, ...
[12:39] <Noah0504> Chousuke: ...and I don't think I need to install anything for Python -- am I right?
[12:39] <nickrud> Xenguy, well, I tend to trust people I can touch over people I can't ;)
[12:39] <Chousuke> Noah0504: if you already know some C, then it should be easier.
[12:39] <Wyred> how to add repositories for xchat in kubuntu ?
[12:39] <ollie> It will be free an published on GPL !
[12:39] <Chousuke> Noah0504: well, the python interpreter. but that comes by default :)
[12:39] <dsas> Noah0504: Python stuff should all be there.
[12:39] <Noah0504> Chousuke: hehe, But that was a few years ago, and I really don't remember too much!
[12:39] <Xenguy> nickrud: heh, I'll keep asking around
[12:40] <nickrud> Xenguy, and thinking a bit harder, I was using dhcp on both
[12:40] <Noah0504> Are there a lot of Python driven projects around?  What's the more popular language?
[12:40] <skippy81> xnull 1) dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:40] <spowers> hey all: do the files in /etc/cron.d do anything by themselves, or is it necessary for them to be linked at from /etc/cron.daily for example
[12:40] <Chousuke> Noah0504: anyway, for python docs and tutorials, python.org is sufficient. :)
[12:40] <Xenguy> nickrud: yeah this is dhcp also, but I think they do tie it to the MAC address on the network side
[12:41] <Noah0504> Chousuke: Thanks, I'll check them out!  :)
[12:41] <skippy81> xnull 2) sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:41] <Xenguy> nickrud: I still don't see why linux shouldn't get it tho
[12:41] <zest> Has someone out there any knowlegde about phion firewall and ipsec config ?
[12:41] <Chousuke> Noah0504: python and C++ are both popular
[12:41] <nickrud> Xenguy, I am no expert on networking (in fact I tend to run from most questions) but that one just doesn't feel right
[12:41] <skippy81> xnull 3) sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[12:41] <Chousuke> Noah0504: C++ is faster than python, since python is an interpreted language.
[12:41] <skippy81> xnull 4) reboot
[12:41] <zest> :
[12:41] <xnull> skippy81, ok at 1 what driver should I select?
[12:42] <dsas> The python docs are installed by default (as is diveintopython)
[12:42] <Chousuke> Noah0504: but C++ is also more complicated and lower-level
[12:42] <skippy81> ati or vesa
[12:42] <Noah0504> Chousuke: Well, I think I may do a little reading before I decide on which one I'll at least start with.  Thanks for all you help!
[12:42] <walkover> which key combination is (AT) on an english keyboard
[12:42] <Xenguy> nickrud: I'll let you know how it turns out, since your 'nick' is so easy to remember :-)
[12:42] <spowers> walkover: shift-2
[12:42] <skippy81> just copy and paste, it probably wont even ask you for any details
[12:42] <spowers> oh you mean english english
[12:42] <RandolphCarter> spowers: which english? :)
[12:42] <RandolphCarter> shift apostraphe
[12:42] <walkover> i dont know
[12:43] <xnull> skippy81, ok rebootiing..
[12:43] <nickrud> Xenguy, if you add the e to the end, it's even more descriptive :)
[12:43] <xnull> skippy81, talk with u in a few sec
[12:43] <walkover> im trying to figure out mey keymap
[12:43] <spowers> yey oldye englishye
[12:43] <dou213> skippy81, what was that all about? xgl? i have some probs with it myself.. can't install it
[12:43] <dizy> if im trying to create a link on the desktop to a program that needs to be run as root only.. how can i do that without being logged in as root
[12:43] <RandolphCarter> dizy: link to gksudo 'program'
[12:43] <Xenguy> nickrud: heh, I get it
[12:44] <dizy> ah.. okie
[12:44] <dizy> thanks
[12:44] <Xenguy> nickrud: ttyl - suppertime
[12:44] <RandolphCarter> np's :)
[12:44] <nickrud> Xenguy, see you about, I'll be offline for a few days, moving
[12:44] <skippy81> dou213, no its about ATI and their worthless graphics cards
[12:44] <skippy81> i really feel stabbed in the back by them, i used to swear by ati, and no i come to linux and they are a nightmare :)
[12:45] <walkover> what is the command for changing keymap? keymap og something i just cant remember
[12:45] <dou213> skippy81, i have an ATI video card too.. so Xgl won't work on it? i tried to install it for several weeks, followed a lot of tutorials, but didn't work
[12:45] <dli> skippy81, fsf.org recommends intel video cards
[12:45] <mathar> Hi there. I hope someone can help.
[12:46] <skippy81> yeah well intel cards appear to be be the best internal ones you can get at the moment
[12:46] <nickrud> the intel on board here worked easily, but only 16bit in gl.
[12:46] <skippy81> what card do you have dou213
[12:46] <dou213> what does the "-phigh" tag in "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[12:46] <skippy81> resets your xorg to its initial configuration
[12:46] <mathar> I have just set up dapper drake on my spare pentium III box but during setup I wasn't asked for a root password. How do I set this?
[12:46] <skippy81> wipes it basically
[12:46] <dou213> nice... :)
[12:46] <nickrud> dou213, debconf has low, medium, high and critical flags, they determine the level of questions asked
[12:47] <Chousuke> !rootsudo
[12:47] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:47] <skippy81> the other commands i gave him were to strip his ati drivers
[12:47] <Chousuke> mathar: see that
[12:47] <dou213> nickrud, debconf? i'm new to linux ... what is this?
[12:48] <nickrud> dou213, its a tool used by packages for asking questions about how you want your package configured.
[12:48] <dou213> skippy81, w8, i'll look what video card i have
[12:48] <petrik> #kubuntu
[12:48] <petrik> oops
[12:48] <dou213> ATI technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[12:49] <zest> Some help needed with ipsec config !!
[12:49] <dou213> is my video card
[12:49] <dmbt> i have a really good feeling about this dapper
[12:49] <nickrud> dou213, during the initial install, debconf is set to high(critical) so very few questions are asked; when you do dpkg-reconfigure on the command line it defaults to low, so 'every' question is asked
[12:49] <dmbt> and last time i had a good feeling about software was firefox, a couple days before it hit 1.0
[12:49] <skippy81> ok dou213 open a terminal and type "fglrxinfo"
[12:50] <dou213> nickrud, initial install of what?
[12:50] <dou213> skippy81, yes... what r u interested?
[12:50] <nickrud> dou213, of ubuntu, when you boot from the cd & install
[12:50] <mathar> Chousuke: sorry I don't understand
[12:51] <skippy81> does it return information about your card dou213
[12:51] <dou213> skippy81, yes
[12:51] <skippy81> ok well you have the correct driver working then
[12:51] <gambit> what server for suse chat?
[12:51] <dou213> skippy81, yeah, just odd it doesn't work
[12:52] <Silencer> pffffff
[12:53] <nickrud> mathar, ubuntu disables the root login by default, and prefers that you use sudo for root access. The link Chousuke gave you explains why
[12:53] <dou213> nickrud, ok, so debconf sets how many questions a user is confrunted with during an installation
[12:53] <nickrud> dou213, precisely
[12:54] <mathar> sorry for being a complete chump but can anyone tell me how to set set the root password?
[12:54] <dou213> nickrud, in any linux distro?
[12:54] <nickrud> dou213, no, it's a debian/ubuntu thing. I assume other debian based distros use it also
[12:54] <nickrud> mathar, sudo passwd root
[12:55] <nickrud> mathar, but read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:55] <dou213> nickrud and skippy81, thx for help
[12:55] <skippy81> np
[12:55] <nickrud> dou213, yw
[12:56] <mathar> thanks nickrud
[12:56] <binarydigit> how would i give my username write access to a directory ?
[12:57] <Mysta_> hey guys, can I log off a user who is logged in locally on the box via SSH?????
[12:58] <nickrud> binarydigit, add yourself to the group owner of the directory, and make the directory writeable by the group
[12:58] <sloucher> mysta - use ps -ef to find the pid then kill -9 pid
[12:58] <petrik> Sorry Kubuntu question, has anyone had any experience of not being able to get to admin mode because of some dcopserver error?
[12:59] <dmbt> Mysta_: but you probably want to kill all or there procs also right?
[12:59] <dmbt> i would install and use the slay command
[12:59] <Mysta_> ok sloucher thanks.
[01:00] <Mysta_> dmbt: i just want to log off the user, Im assuming it'll kill the processes as well
[01:00] <amphi> Mysta_: whowatch is a handy program
[01:00] <Mysta_> amphi: hmm havent heard of it yet
[01:01] <dmbt> Mysta_: killing the pid of the user won't kill the users procs
[01:01] <dmbt> thats what slay does
[01:01] <amphi> Mysta_: an apt-get away ;)
[01:01] <Mysta_> where can i read/download it
[01:01] <dmbt> i love that program
[01:01] <Mysta_> its just called slay?
[01:01] <dmbt> sudo apt-get install slay
[01:01] <dmbt> will install it
[01:01] <dmbt> yeh
[01:02] <amphi> Mysta_: sudo apt-get install whowatch
[01:02] <sloucher> mysta_ tell me if your apt-get works because mine doesn't right now
[01:02] <dou213> where can i look for such programs?
[01:02] <Mysta_> dmbt: couldn't find package slay
[01:03] <Mysta_> sloucher: are you getting an error message?
[01:03] <Mysta_> if so what is it?
[01:03] <dmbt> Mysta_: use synaptic, and open up all the repositories
[01:03] <Mysta_> k
[01:03] <sloucher> sure am  (111 Connection refused)
[01:03] <Mysta_> dmbt: i only have shell access now
[01:04] <dmbt> oh
[01:04] <Mysta_> now Im getting a permission denied error, this is after i ran the sudo apt-get install slay
[01:05] <Dreamglider> can i set diffrent background pictures on each four desktops ?
[01:05] <dmbt> Mysta_: do you have another apt-get thing running somewhere?
[01:06] <Mysta_> dmbt:  hmm im not sure, can i run top and check? remember i cant tell what someone may be doing @ the server itself
[01:06] <Mysta_> locally
[01:06] <sloucher> connection refused for my synaptic - do i need to do anything on the firewall to run synaptic
[01:06] <Mysta_> sloucher: did you have problems in the past, or is this a recent issue?
[01:06] <sloucher> recent
[01:06] <dmbt> Mysta_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesCliHowto
[01:07] <Mysta_> dmbt: I'm familar w/ that. Thanks tho
[01:07] <dmbt> make sure universse and restricted are on there
[01:07] <sloucher> yeah, thanks mysta - did that long ago
[01:07] <dmbt> slay should be in there
[01:07] <sloucher> the repositories are working for everyone here?
[01:08] <Chris_Tucker> Is there a gui application / group of applications i can use to rip sections of a dvd to mpg or avi?
[01:08] <Mysta_> dmbt; i'll have to take this up tomorrow, I just got the new dell laptop and Im off to play w/ my new toy
[01:08] <dmbt> oh
[01:08] <sloucher> Chris - torvid
[01:08] <dmbt> have fun
[01:08] <Mysta_> Chris_Tucker: or you can try Thoggen
[01:08] <sloucher> opps no it's tovid
[01:09] <skippy81> sorry xnull i just installed my chroot and had to reboot
[01:09] <Mysta_> amphi & dmbt: thanks for your help. hopefully u guys are around 2morrow!
[01:09] <Chris_Tucker> trying thoggen first. its in my repos. Where would i get torvid, sloucher ?
[01:10] <sloucher> thoggen looks good - maybe i'll try it
[01:10] <skippy81> grr forums are down :(
[01:10] <sloucher> tovid is command line and find it with goggle - it's on sorgeforce too i believe
[01:12] <i\o> Hey, I'm trying to play an important ram file in realplayer, and it keeps stopping at like 4 minutes, instead of going to the 30 minutes that it says, i have no idea what to do
[01:12] <dmbt> i\o: are you using realplayer
[01:12] <amphi> Mysta_: you got whowatch?
[01:12] <abeck> where do I get the ubuntu version of vnc?
[01:13] <i\o> dmbt: realplayer, mplayer plugin for firefox, gxine, .. I'm trying it with all sorts of players
[01:13] <Lup1nIII> hello world
[01:13] <dmbt> i\o: if it doesn't work with realplayer, and the *official* codecs, i don't know what would
[01:14] <sas171> hi, Im trying to rund artsd and everytime I do 'artsd -F 6 -S 256' im getting: "Creating link /home/sas171/.kde/socket-sas171-desktop. can't create mcop directory" . What am I doing wrong?
[01:14] <i\o> could it be a caching problem or streaming problem somehow?
[01:14] <dmbt> i\o: is the file public, so i can test it on my machine?
[01:15] <i\o> http://www.cbc.ca/nb/media/news/newscast.ram
[01:15] <i\o> dmbt, it normally doesnt stop until after 5 - 10 minutes
[01:15] <i\o> right when it gets to the important story
[01:15] <Dreamglider> abeck, http://www.realvnc.com
[01:15] <dmbt> ill tryy
[01:15] <Jimmey__> Good evening, folks
[01:15] <Silencer> I put the cdrom 6.06 RC version and he say me do I want to update I click yes he open me synaptic but he don't find any update
[01:15] <i\o> dmbt, thanks
[01:15] <Silencer> :(
[01:16] <Silencer> I just don't get the way
[01:16] <i\o> dmbt, you can't seek can you?
[01:16] <baconbacon> ok its' 00:30:12
[01:16] <Jimmey__> Silencer, does "sudo apt-get upgrade" work?
[01:16] <Silencer> leme try :)
[01:16] <Xenguy> nickrud: good luck with the mv
[01:16] <Silencer> do I need to mount cdrom ?
[01:16] <Silencer> he following packages have been kept back:
[01:16] <Silencer>   cpp cpp-4.0 g++ g++-4.0 gcc gcc-4.0 libc6-dev libstdc++6-4.0-dev
[01:16] <Silencer> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
[01:16] <nickrud> Xenguy, heh, I'm watching being done as I type
[01:17] <Jimmey__> Silencer, what about "sudo apt-get install build-essential"?
[01:17] <Silencer> well nothing
[01:17] <baconbacon> hey i\o it just stopped..
[01:17] <Xenguy> nickrud: that helps ;-)
[01:17] <dmbt> yeh
[01:17] <baconbacon> about 1:30 - 2:00
[01:17] <rixxon> will dapper ship with vim 7?
[01:17] <rixxon> (rc didn't)
[01:17] <dmbt> something is fcked up
[01:17] <Jimmey__> Silencer, is that what you're trying to install?
[01:17] <Silencer> build-essential is already the newest version.
[01:17] <Lup1nIII> sorry...i have run nmap on localhost with -p 1-65535 option and have these port open: 631/tcp   open  ipp; 33909/tcp open  unknown; 35564/tcp open  unknown; 44716/tcp open  unknown; 62195/tcp open  unknown.....what services is?
[01:17] <Jimmey__> Silencer, oh.
[01:17] <Xenguy> rixxon: apparently not, unfortunately
[01:17] <Silencer> Jimmey__, I want to upgrade 5.10 to 6.06
[01:17] <rixxon> :(
[01:18] <Silencer> I download the 6.06 iso
[01:18] <Jimmey__> Silencer, oh.
[01:18] <Xenguy> rixxon: that's what I thot
[01:18] <Silencer> is there way or not
[01:18] <Silencer> Or i need to use internet update ?
[01:18] <Jimmey__> Silencer, that's not the way to upgrade
[01:18] <Jimmey__> Silencer, you can either use the CD to do a clean install, or you could use the internet
[01:18] <Xenguy> rixxon: I wouldn't be surprised if somebody backports it though
[01:19] <juanca7777> hello everyone
[01:19] <Jowi> Lup1nIII: "sudo lsof -i tcp:35564" will let you know
[01:19] <Lup1nIII> tanks Jowi
[01:19] <dsas> Silencer, Jimmey__: You canuse the cd to update too.
[01:19] <juanca7777> I have a problem with my X driver, I think it has to do with DRI, any volenteers?
[01:19] <Silencer> dsas, how ?
[01:19] <rixxon> Xenguy: hopefully :/
[01:20] <Xenguy> rixxon: there are too many vim zealots out there for it not to happen :-)
[01:20] <Jimmey__> dsas, yes...
[01:20] <Silencer> dsas, well ?
[01:20] <Jimmey__> Silencer, you'll need to change your sources.list to include in it the CDROM for 6.06
[01:20] <dsas> Silencer: system->admin -> properties. Make sure cd is in drive, and press "add cd rom"
[01:20] <rixxon> Xenguy: true true
[01:20] <Silencer> dsas, I did that ;)
[01:21] <Silencer> synaptec ?
[01:21] <juanca7777> synaptic
[01:21] <dsas> sorry, system -> admin -> software properties. or in synaptic yes.
[01:21] <Silencer> ok
[01:21] <Silencer> I did that
[01:21] <Silencer> he found him :)
[01:21] <sedrake> Anyone knows about a ftp client that can edit files directly on server?
[01:21] <Lup1nIII> Jowi python use these port...why?? python have a service?
[01:22] <Eleaf> hi
[01:22] <dsas> now you should be able to press "mark all upgrades" and then "apply"
[01:22] <Jimmey__> Hey Ethan ;)
[01:22] <Jimmey__> Haha
[01:22] <Dreamglider> 6.06 is it final releace now ?
[01:22] <ax> hello, i have a computer with no network adapter that i want to install pure-data on, i'm wondering what the best way to do that is?
[01:22] <ax> do i just individually download all the dependencies and put it on a cd or something and copy them over?
[01:22] <Jimmey__> Dreamglider, the official release is tomorrow - I'd say it's as good as done.
[01:23] <Jowi> Lup1nIII: that i have no idea. look at the PID you got from lsof. "ps -fg pidnumber" and you should see the full command that use it
[01:23] <Dreamglider> sweet sweet :)
[01:23] <sloucher> I think it will be thursday the new release
[01:23] <Jimmey__> ax, I think that there's an option with apt-get to download a package ( and it's dependancies ) and not install it. try "man apt-get"
[01:23] <dsas> Dreamglider: the final release is building now :). The one on the webpage is the same except chinese language fixes
[01:24] <PS> hi, quick q: when i'm on the command line, how do i get a file into the clipboard?
[01:24] <ax> Jimmey__: but i don't have a network (or another ubuntu box with the same config)
[01:24] <Jimmey__> PS, to copy a file, use the command "cp", if that's what you mean.
[01:25] <Jimmey__> ax, do you have access to a debian machine with the internet?
[01:25] <ax> Jimmey__: yeah, i do
[01:25] <Dreamglider> i'll order 10 cd's, i
[01:25] <PS> Jimmey__, no sorry, i want to get the contents of a file into the clipboard without having to open it in gedit or something
[01:26] <Jimmey__> ax, then it'd be simpler to use the method I explained to install the software you want - Although downloading the dependencies and package on Windows machine, and then copying them over would also work
[01:26] <PS> Jimmey__, i tried xclip but it didn't seem to work...
[01:26] <Dreamglider> i want all my friends to have the oppertunity to try somthing beside Windows
[01:26] <Xenguy> PS: where's the output going?
[01:26] <ax> Jimmey__: but are ubuntu packages the same as debian sarge packages?
[01:26] <PS> Xenguy: good q, dunno, but when i paste in firefox my previous clipboard contents are pasted
[01:27] <riddlebox> I forget, but who told me about kbarcode?
[01:27] <Jimmey__> ax, I think, yes. Although I'm not 100% sure, I've used a debian sarge package on Ubuntu before without hitch, and all .debs should work anyway.
[01:27] <Xenguy> PS: if the output is headed for a web form, I'm not sure you can do that from the command-line - best to use a text editor perhaps
[01:28] <Dreamglider> anyhow, two questions. 1: can i have diffrent background on each four desktops, i'm using Gnome?
[01:28] <juanca7777> anyone has a savage graphics card?
[01:28] <PS> Xenguy: hmm, ok.  worth a try :-)
[01:28] <Xenguy> PS: sure, why not ;-)
[01:29] <Jowi> Dreamglider: that was only one question. answer is no. gnome does not use desktops, only virtual windows
[01:29] <notos> hi all im trying to upgrade from breezy to dapper but i "get error code (1)" on the package lvm2_2.02.02
[01:29] <notos> what can i do?
[01:29] <Jowi> Dreamglider: or "viewports" as they are also called
[01:29] <nickrud> Dreamglider, not natively with the gnome window manager, no.
[01:29] <Dreamglider> ok ok.
[01:30] <mbah> hay
[01:30] <Jowi> Dreamglider: what's the 2nd question? i'm curious now
[01:30] <Jowi> :)
[01:30] <nickrud> Dreamglider, I've seen some hacks that will do that, but when I tried them they sucked :)
[01:30] <Dreamglider> qoestion 2: i have Firefox, and mplayer plugin but video wont play in firefox anymore
[01:31] <chopchop_> Dreamglider: what do you mean 'anymore'?
[01:31] <chopchop_> Dreamglider: it played before?
[01:32] <Dreamglider> the file loads/buffers to 100% but nothin is played, no audio/video nothing, in the end i just have to right-klick and download the file any play it
[01:32] <Clint-> ^_^
[01:32] <Dreamglider> chopchop_, yes it worked
[01:32] <nickrud> Jimmey__, no non and not!
[01:32] <Clint-> detect me, hehe :-)
[01:32] <Jimmey__> nickrud, what've I done?
[01:33] <nickrud> Jimmey__, debian binary packages, especially from sarge will not work with ubuntu reliably. There is no guarantee of binary compatiblity
[01:33] <chopchop_> Dreamglider: just go to the /tmp when it downloaded 100% and mplayer the file mplay*
[01:33] <Jimmey__> nickrud, that's why I said that I wasn't 100% sure. Sorry to be dishing out inaccurate information :(
[01:34] <nickrud> Jimmey__, :) I saw debian sarge on ubuntu, and didn't look further
[01:34] <Lup1nIII> Jowi tanks  python launch hpssd (the server for HP printing system....the other port is used by amsn and skype...:D tanks tanks
[01:34] <Dreamglider> chopchop_, cant i get it to play in firefox again!
[01:35] <Jowi> np Lup1nIII :)
[01:35] <chopchop_> Dreamglider: are u using dapper or breezy?
[01:35] <Dreamglider> chopchop_, 5.10
[01:36] <chopchop_> Dreamglider: that's breezy, have you try to do 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer' again?
[01:36] <xgllo> dappers official release is tomorrow correct?
[01:37] <Jimmey__> Yes
[01:37] <Dreamglider> chopchop_,  no i have not done that
[01:37] <chopchop_> Dreamglider: hope that works
[01:37] <Dreamglider> ok i'll see
[01:37] <chopchop_> Dreamglider: so do it
[01:38] <Dreamglider> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:38] <Dreamglider> :/
[01:38] <nickrud> Jimmey__, packages that are 'all' like perl and scripts often work just fine. Case by case.
[01:38] <Kr0ntab> sup folks
[01:38] <Ubunnn> hola
[01:38] <Ubunnn> buenas
[01:39] <Jimmey__> !es
[01:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:39] <chopchop_> Dreamglider: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28MPlayer.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[01:40] <chopchop_> Dreamglider: make sure u add the extra repositories
[01:41] <notos> what does mean E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)?
[01:42] <nickrud> notos, depends on the context, but usually it's a bug in the package from my experience
[01:43] <nickrud> notos, what package?
[01:43] <notos> mmm... lvm2_2.02.02
[01:44] <nickrud> notos, erg. LVM is not one of my strong points :) I'd put the entire error message on the pastebin and give the link here. I've done that before and got good help
[01:45] <notos> ok :-)
[01:46] <astrisk> hi all..
[01:46] <Jimmey__> Hello
[01:47] <astrisk> hey can any one tell me how to patch i m not gettin the 3rd 4th line of this document http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14880
[01:47] <PS> Xenguy, i found a short python script which will send the contents of stdin to the gnome clipboard: http://pastebin.com/748091
[01:47] <Xenguy> PS: hah - no kidding
[01:47] <astrisk> plz have a look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14880  n plz tel me what exactly i have to do?
[01:48] <PS> Xenguy: no, works a treat :-)
[01:48] <PetrolBomb> CPU temp moniotr to place on desktop???
[01:48] <notos> here i got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14881
[01:48] <Xenguy> PS: nice
[01:48] <Jimmey__> astrisk: what's the problem, and what are you trying to do?
[01:49] <PS> Xenguy: i've got a hunch that there's probably something in Ubuntu that does the same but i couldn't find it
[01:49] <Jimmey__> PetrolBomb, lmsensors
[01:49] <Jimmey__> "sudo apt-get install lm-sensors"
[01:49] <PS> Xenguy: it's the little things that make life easier
[01:50] <ubuntu_> hi all
[01:50] <PetrolBomb> in repositry?
[01:50] <Jimmey__> PetrolBomb, Yeah
[01:50] <astrisk> Jimmey__, actually i m trying to install the VIA graphics driver i got this document at Ubuntu forum n not able to find out how to start...  :(
[01:51] <Jimmey__> astrisk: are you sure that these drivers aren't available in a more easily installed format?
[01:51] <PetrolBomb> Jimmey is that an L or I
[01:51] <astrisk> Jimmey__, ya
[01:51] <jacaum> will ubuntu dapper beta automatically update to the full release?
[01:52] <bpont> i just downloaded an iso file, but it's been compressed *iso.bz2...what's the command to uncompress this...(not too experienced with bzip)
[01:52] <astrisk> Jimmey__, i searched a lot n finally got this solution i have tried many solution but in all cases my Xserver went off..
[01:52] <bimberi> bpont: bunzip2 foo.bz2
[01:53] <Jimmey__> PetrolBomb, L
[01:53] <bpont> bimberi: thx
[01:53] <astrisk> Jimmey__, i only want to know what he told in first 3 line....
[01:53] <bimberi> bpont: np :)
[01:53] <Jimmey__> astrisk: what's the link again?
[01:54] <astrisk> Jimmey__ ,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14880
[01:54] <Jimmey__> astrisk: thanks
[01:55] <Jimmey__> astrisk: you want to know what he's done in the first three lines?
[01:55] <astrisk> Jimmey__: yup in paste bin its line no 3 to 5
[01:55] <zero> hi
[01:55] <sedrake> can I install xgl compiz on ubuntu 5.10?
[01:56] <phidaux> afternoon all.. does anyone have the time (or patience) to help a noob out with installing firefox?
[01:56] <sedrake> gnome
[01:56] <astrisk> Jimmey__:  tell me what i have to do?
[01:56] <zero> does anyone know how to network an ubuntu and a windows 2000 machine?
[01:56] <Jimmey__> astrisk: can't you copy and paste?
[01:56] <untung> zero: what you want to do?
[01:56] <astrisk> Jimmey__, where?
[01:56] <bimberi> ubotu tell zero about samba
[01:57] <astrisk> Jimmey__: and what?
[01:57] <Jimmey__> astrisk: copy and paste what you see into a terminal, perhaps?
[01:57] <untung> zero: i have ubuntu and win2k here
[01:57] <zero> i want to be able to read my Girlfriends machok
[01:57] <zero> what i want to do is read my GFs machine
[01:57] <zero> and be able to pull of mp3s from the network
[01:58] <Jimmey__> zero, does she have Windows? Or Ubuntu?
[01:58] <zero> Win 2k
[01:58] <PS> zero, check out http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver
[01:58] <astrisk> Jimmey__: its says cvs command not found
[01:58] <zero> i have ubuntu
[01:58] <void^> astrisk: lines 3 to 5 checkout (download) the sourcecode. install cvs.
[01:58] <baconbacon> if you have ubuntu and her windows,
[01:59] <PS> zero, oh wait sry, that's sharing your files out to her, hang on ... :-/
[01:59] <Jimmey__> astrisk: try "sudo apt-get install cvs"
[01:59] <baconbacon> you can type smb://hostname/share to get to her shares
[01:59] <baconbacon> in nautilus
[01:59] <zero> i dunno the hostname...
[01:59] <baconbacon> in windows, i have \\hostname\share
[01:59] <Jimmey__> zero, the IP address of her machine will do.
[02:00] <baconbacon> yes ip too
[02:00] <zero> oh
[02:00] <zero> ok
[02:00] <zero> brb
[02:00] <nickrud> zero, and she's your girlfriend?
[02:00] <eyequeue> zero, is this with her consent?
[02:00] <nickrud> erik, eyequeue cuts to the chase
[02:00] <zero> har har
[02:00] <nickrud> erm, I mean
[02:00] <eyequeue> zero, has she somehow enabled your host to see her data?
[02:00] <zero> well
[02:00] <zero> im not using a router
[02:01] <zero> im using a crossover
[02:01] <EchoBinary> hello all, have a question
[02:01] <phidaux> does anyone have the time (or patience) to help a noob out with installing firefox? It's crashing on boot. Please contact me.
[02:01] <zero> does that make a difference?
[02:01] <baconbacon> if you both have an ip, no
[02:01] <zero> k
[02:01] <EchoBinary> im running Flight7, and ive been getting update notifications quite a bit, to be expected pending the release in 2 days
[02:01] <eyequeue> zero, it makes no difference as far as the consent question, afaic
[02:01] <Kholerabbi> Is dapper available for download yet?
[02:01] <Jimmey__> EchoBinary, I had the same problem. I just updated, though - Even though the packages seemed like the ones I already had.
[02:01] <EchoBinary> in 2 days, should i reformat and install, or is there a clean upgrade path, or if i am up to date on my updates by then am i all good?
[02:01] <hyphenated> Kholerabbi: another day or two
[02:02] <Kholerabbi> ok, thanks
[02:02] <eyequeue> Kholerabbi, release is in 2 days, though many are already on dapper (/msg ubotu dapper)
[02:02] <hyphenated> EchoBinary: entirely up to you
[02:02] <PyroMithrandir> EchoBinary, if you're up to date on your upgrades, you'll be all good
[02:02] <void^> EchoBinary: you'll be all good.
[02:02] <EchoBinary> awesome
[02:02] <eyequeue> erik, maybe one day now, heh
[02:02] <EchoBinary> so i shouldnt hold off setting things up for fear of having to reinstall in a few days
[02:02] <eyequeue> Wed May 31 00:02:45 UTC 2006
[02:02] <Kholerabbi> But its still bugy?
[02:02] <EchoBinary> nice :) thanks!
[02:02] <baconbacon> EchoBinary: you still need to dist-upgrade at some point
[02:03] <baconbacon> just a reminder
[02:03] <EchoBinary> *nod*
[02:03] <eyequeue> Kholerabbi, it's still changing, buggy is a "hope not" thing by now
[02:03] <zero> ok
[02:03] <Kholerabbi> hmm, I can wait a few days.
[02:03] <zero> i suck
[02:03] <rexykik> yup
[02:03] <zero> another n00b question
[02:03] <zero> how do i open nautilus with the adress field?
[02:04] <bimberi> zero: CTRL-L ?
[02:04] <rexykik> i'm getting the following error "  Could not compile gcc-version-check.c.  Please be sure you have your
[02:04] <rexykik>   distribution's libc development package installed and that 'cc' is a valid C
[02:04] <rexykik>   compiler name.
[02:04] <rexykik> ack sorry
[02:05] <paradizelost> dapper is here now?
[02:05] <Jimmey__> rexykik, did you "sudo apt-get install build-essential"#?
[02:05] <Jimmey__> paradizelost: tomorrow..
[02:05] <bimberi> paradizelost: june 1
[02:05] <rexykik> what is it
[02:05] <rexykik> build-essential
[02:05] <eyequeue> paradizelost, release is in june
[02:05] <Jimmey__> rexykik: it's the packages you'll need to compile things
[02:05] <rexykik> okay
[02:05] <rexykik> thanks much
[02:05] <rexykik> no i havent
[02:06] <paradizelost> the topic for the other room said ubuntu+1 is edgy eft
[02:06] <paradizelost> nm misread it
[02:07] <eyequeue> i'm hoping it's 00:00 june 1, not 23:59 june 1 :)
[02:08] <rexykik> The Linux 2.6
[02:08] <rexykik>   kernel module loader rejects kernel modules built with a version of gcc that
[02:08] <rexykik>   does not exactly match that of the compiler used to build the running
[02:08] <rexykik>   kernel.  The compiler used to compile the kernel was gcc 3.4; the current
[02:08] <rexykik>   compiler is gcc 4.0.
[02:08] <rexykik> know how to change it to use 3.4?
[02:08] <rexykik> i have 3.4 installed
[02:08] <rexykik> and 4 base
[02:09] <ax> huh, so jackd depends on libjack0.80 but libjack0.80 depends on jackd
[02:09] <ax> what do i do?
[02:09] <roaet> I just logged into my ubuntu box after many months of leaving it be and my resolution is unbearably small. :(
[02:09] <astrisk> Jimmey__, did u have any idea what he told in that document?
[02:09] <Jaak> How come totem doesnt play my DVD's?
[02:09] <bimberi> !dvd
[02:09] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:09] <Jaak> It says I still need a plugin
[02:09] <rexykik> roaet, change your xorg.conf
[02:09] <_jason> rexykik: export CC=gcc-3.4        <-- that command should make it use version 3.4 of gcc
[02:10] <roaet> wait, it's working now.
[02:10] <rexykik> thanks much jason
[02:10] <roaet> Just needed a reboot.. wtfrog
[02:10] <roaet> sometimes things just don't make sense.
[02:10] <rexykik> what is the kernel source path for ubuntu?
[02:10] <Silencer> I think that update to 6.06 over CDrom is not possible ;(
[02:10] <astrisk> Jimmey__, did u have any idea what he told in that document?
[02:11] <baconbacon> Not with the live cd unfortunately
[02:11] <kspath> eyequeue: Timezone?
[02:12] <eyequeue> kspath, i use UTC here, why?  oh, release?  i'd presume universal, but i don't know
[02:12] <kspath> eyequeue: regarding release of dapper...
[02:12] <kspath> eyequeue: I am guessing UTC as well
[02:12] <rexykik> what is the kernel source path for ubuntu?
[02:12] <eyequeue> kspath, meetings tend to be stated in utc, i just considered it the default
[02:12] <kspath> eyequeue: Makes very very good sense.
[02:12] <crimsun> rexykik: why do you need /source/ instead of /headers/?
[02:13] <eyequeue> rexykik, look in /usr/src/ for the tarball from linux-source-* packages
[02:13] <leboff> any help with dmraid here?
[02:13] <eyequeue> rexykik, meaning you can unpack it to any obscure corner you prefer ;)
[02:16] <rexykik> there is nothing is /usr/src
[02:16] <phidaux> ok, I'm gettin no love... so I've gotta ask (noob alert) is it even possible to get the latest build of firefox to work on ubuntu? I've read a bunch of wikis and followed 'em with no luck, it's still crashing on load.
[02:17] <rexykik> does it need to be on the cd?
[02:17] <rexykik> or
[02:17] <rexykik> is it on the cd?
[02:17] <Flannel> !tell phidaux about ff1.5
[02:17] <Flannel> phidaux: you try that one?
[02:17] <kbrosnan> phidaux, if you are having that much trouble with installing firefox for breezey you might be better off wating a few days for dapper to be final and apt-get dist-upgrade which will get you firefox 1.5
[02:18] <dmbt> phidaux: you can just install the plain vanilla firefox 1.5
[02:18] <dmbt> from mozilla.org
[02:18] <dmbt> just download the linux tarball
[02:18] <dmbt> and run it
[02:19] <Jaak> ok i got libdvdcss2 installed still can't display dvd's. Totem does support DVD-video right?
[02:19] <kbrooks> um.
[02:19] <phidaux> groovy, thanks... guess it's time to cool my jets for a while.
[02:20] <eyequeue> rexykik, apt-get instal linux-source-2.6.15 or whatever should unpack it there, but as crimsun said, why not use linux-headers-* instead?
[02:20] <kbrooks> ok. please tell me if i should write a gui interface to grub
[02:20] <dmbt> kbrooks: you could if you want
[02:20] <rexykik> i need source files to compile nvidia drivers
[02:20] <eyequeue> !nvidia
[02:20] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:21] <kbrooks> dmbt: should as in is a existing interface SORELY lacking?
[02:21] <PetrolBomb> Jimmey you there?
[02:21] <dmbt> well, other distros have some GUIS in there installers that config it
[02:21] <kbrooks> dmbt: a program *smack* *smackie*
[02:22] <EricNeon> hi all~
[02:22] <dmbt> i don't think one existst hen
[02:22] <Dreamglider> damn, someone repeat that link for me, my screen history is so short
[02:22] <Jaak> !dvd
[02:22] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:23] <kbrooks> dmbt: so... would you liyke to give it a name?
[02:23] <kbrooks> dmbt: no need to be
[02:24] <orbin> grubber
[02:24] <kbrooks> orbin: thats nice :-)
[02:24] <orbin> be sure to give me credit :)
[02:25] <dmbt> guibber
[02:25] <kbrooks> orbin: sure, i will.
[02:25] <ReleaseX> anyone here using k9copy to backup dvds?
[02:25] <kbrooks> orbin: #grubber
[02:25] <kbrooks> anyone else: #grubber
[02:26] <orbin> heh
[02:26] <eyequeue> is that like telling your dog to go bury dvds in the back yard? ;)
[02:26] <lance> hello
[02:31] <ax> how do ubuntu people make it so that hid devices that are plugged in have group/user setting set in a particular way?
[02:32] <nickrud> ax, they are controlled by the scripts & settings in /etc/udev
[02:32] <ax> so there isn't a gui app for that?
[02:33] <nickrud> ax, no, it's supposed to be transparent so you don't need to configure
[02:33] <Hexidigital_> wow... awefully quiet in here... everyone out partying, getting ready for the Dapper release?
[02:33] <eyequeue> last minute bugsquashing?
[02:33] <nickrud> Hexidigital_, good question.
[02:33] <jain> or fixing bugs ;-)
[02:33] <nickrud> a big number of bugs
[02:34] <jain> for example my ati card driver broke down after last update
[02:35] <nickrud> I will never be able to run a 686 kernel. Or, until I replace my modem. Oh well.
[02:35] <ax> nickrud: transparent? when i plug the device in the group is root, and it is set rw-rw----
[02:35] <nickrud> ax, then that is a bug. You should be in the group plugdev, and it should allow you to plug in devices
[02:36] <Drasla> hey, is there anyway I could set security parameters on a folder such that it can't be deleted or renamed, but people are allowed full access to modify it's contents?
[02:37] <nickrud> Drasla, man chattr. I'm not up on that much, but it's how you set a directory immutable
[02:37] <Drasla> k.  thanks.
[02:38] <DarkTower> if you have security=share on samba, can you set a password for specific folders?
[02:38] <nickrud> Drasla, I use that to put things on peoples desktops and prevent them from deleting them. I learned just enough for that. There are more options available tht I never learned
[02:42] <dbrock> when is the ETA for Dapper?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> dbrock: june 1st
[02:42] <dbrock> (this must really be an FAQ, sorry)
[02:42] <nickrud> dbrock, your time minus june first
[02:42] <dbrock> gnomefreak: oh, cool!
[02:42] <BioVorE> june first EST?
[02:42] <BioVorE> ;-P
[02:42] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[02:42] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[02:42] <dbrock> nickrud: hmm, I don't get that one
[02:43] <BioVorE> 1:43 in the morning in london
[02:43] <nickrud> dbrock, bad read of the question. I'm gonna be netless june 1
[02:43] <gnomefreak> sorry thought that still said when the release is
[02:44] <DarkTower> will dapper be available at midnight tonight?
[02:44] <PMantis> How can I tel if Dapper will support the Intel ICH7R RAID controler? I need to buy a new server.
[02:44] <BioVorE> no... ICH7R is sucky software raid
[02:44] <gnomefreak> DarkTower: the rc will be
[02:44] <majd> !java
[02:44] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:44] <Lt-Elmo> hmm if i have rc2 install will i have to reinstall?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> the rc is out now too ;)
[02:44] <BioVorE> no
[02:44] <BioVorE> .. just apt-get update..
[02:44] <Lt-Elmo> w00t
[02:44] <gnomefreak> Lt-Elmo: you wont have rc2
[02:44] <PMantis> BioVorE, *software* RAID??
[02:44] <Lt-Elmo> new user
[02:44] <DarkTower> gnomefreak: rc? i thought the full version is released hune 1?
[02:44] <PMantis> BioVorE, It's a hardwre chip.
[02:45] <gnomefreak> Lt-Elmo: just do your updates
[02:45] <Lt-Elmo> gotcha
[02:45] <BioVorE> the OS handles the Raid chuck summing and stuff
[02:45] <gnomefreak> DarkTower: it is today is only the 30th of may here
[02:45] <Lt-Elmo> i am trying to dump the microsoft shit
[02:45] <BioVorE> a Read raid is expensive.. $500 or more
[02:45] <BioVorE> (real)
[02:45] <DarkTower> gnomefreak: ooo k, 31st here
[02:45] <DarkTower> gnomefreak: i guess they dont mean aussie time lol?
[02:46] <gnomefreak> DarkTower: it will be uploaded during the day on 1st london time iirc
[02:46] <gnomefreak> UTC is the time zone i think
[02:46] <DarkTower> gnomefreak: thanks
[02:46] <Jaak> how come wine is displaying fonts very smal (unreadable), Can it have anything to do with ati drivers?
[02:46] <Lt-Elmo> playing between kde and gnome to learn which is more noob friendly
[02:46] <odin_> two questions
[02:46] <odin_> question the first:
[02:46] <BioVorE> PMantis: http://linux-ata.org/faq-sata-raid.html#ich
[02:46] <DarkTower> Lt-Elmo: gnome i would say
[02:47] <odin_> where are ubuntu's kernel sources located, or does it not come with any?
[02:47] <BioVorE> odin_: you need to apt-get it
[02:47] <odin_> very good
[02:47] <leboff> speaking of fakeraid.  can anyone in here help out with dmraid? if so please pm me.
[02:47] <odin_> next question
[02:47] <odin_> does make not come standard with ubuntu?
[02:47] <tuxtheslacker> anyone have a creative instant webcam?
[02:47] <tuxtheslacker> can anyone help me make it not freeze my computer?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> odin_: no you have to install it i would install build-essential
[02:48] <eyequeue> odin_, sudo apt-get install build-essential, for such
[02:48] <orbin> odin_: it's on the disc.  just not installed iirc.  grab build-essential
[02:48] <odin_> in that case, is there something else you can use in make's place?
[02:48] <eyequeue> odin_, sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-2.6.15 or whatever, if you want it, as most don't
[02:48] <odin_> the problem is my friend's ubuntu does not have access to the net
[02:48] <shawnl> is the flash plug-in for mozilla available in the apt source for dapper?
[02:49] <odin_> and he's trying to install a driver for his modem so he can connect to the net
[02:49] <gnomefreak> odin_: build-essential has all tools for your building needs (most if not all)
[02:49] <tuxtheslacker> anyone in here good with webcams?
[02:49] <varsendaggr> hey how do i edit my gnome menues   as in what launches what
[02:49] <odin_> gnomefreak:  but I can't get build-essential without the net, can I?
[02:49] <gnomefreak> odin_: its on the disk
[02:49] <odin_> gnomefreak: oh, okay
[02:49] <PMantis> BioVorE, OK, thanks! The part that's confusing, is that if RAID is "provided by the BIOS on the card", then how is that considered to be "Software" RAID?
[02:50] <BioVorE> odin_: apt-get install build-essential
[02:50] <shawnl> is the flash plug-in for mozilla available in the apt source for dapper?
[02:50] <BioVorE> PMantis: the raid controller is just a sata controller with a special driver in windows that writes in stripes.. the bios just handles getting the raid array readable by the bios to load the OS
[02:51] <wsjunior> how do i configure my touchpad?
[02:51] <nickrud> checkinstall is evil, but debhelper is hard ;(
[02:51] <BioVorE> debhelper take a bit to get use to..  Its a system. If you follow it, it works nice.
[02:51] <PMantis> BioVorE, Gotcha
[02:51] <shawnl> wsjunior: is it synapstics?
[02:52] <jameyg> wsjunior, try  here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo
[02:52] <wsjunior> shawnl, yes
[02:52] <jameyg> shawnl, sorry asking first was probably better :P
[02:52] <nickrud> BioVorE, I want easy deb builds, so I just use them. Thankfully.
[02:52] <BioVorE> nickrud: rgr thats what I do..
[02:53] <BioVorE> nickrud: beat it untill it works..
[02:53] <nickrud> heh
[02:53] <nickrud> Someday I will build a package, and then I'll hide it.
[02:53] <shawnl> jameyg: it's ok
[02:54] <crimsun> nickrud: dh is pretty straightforward
[02:54] <BioVorE> nickrud: I build personal debs for my self..  I getting sick of compiling mplayer and friends over and over again.. so I made my own debs of it
[02:54] <crimsun> nickrud: "simple" would be, say, cdbs.
[02:55] <odin_> is it also possible to get kernel source 2.6.16 without connection to the net?
[02:55] <BioVorE> yeah.. download it and burn it to a disk
[02:55] <nickrud> crimsun, that one I played with once. But much more graceful package builders exist. It was a fun learning experience though
[02:56] <odin_> BioVorE: ehh, wouldn't that take too long?
[02:56] <BioVorE> or put it on a flashdrive
[02:57] <BioVorE> just have to get the .deb or .tar.* file to the other machine
[02:57] <nickrud> Since I'm about to use another release, thanks to all
[02:59] <Noah0504> What editor does everyone recommend for programming in Python?
[02:59] <Kyral> Vim?
[02:59] <nickrud> Vim?
[02:59] <MarcN> Noah0504: emacs?
[02:59] <Kyral> !editorwar
[02:59] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kyral
[02:59] <Kyral> lol
[02:59] <nickrud> !editor wars
[02:59] <ubotu> nickrud: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:59] <CodeWarrior_> hello folks, Im using Dapper on an Athlon64 3000+ (@2.0GHz), using packed generic AMD64 kernel. My doubt is: why the /proc/cpuinfo show me just a 1000Mhz machine and just 2000 bogomips ? any tip ?
[02:59] <Noah0504> hehe, I heard those were two of the most popular.
[02:59] <nickrud> that one existed once
[03:00] <habenix> what is a reliable and fast network file system with kernel root fs support?
[03:00] <morgan> i have mounted a vfat partition in fstab with umask=000 but the strange things is that some of the directorys are write protected and some not. what is the problem?
[03:01] <tuxtheslacker> This is really ticking me off...
[03:02] <WhatTheDeuce> Hey.  Sound doesn't work in flash for me.  It plays fine for everything else
[03:02] <tuxtheslacker> dmesg says it finds this effing thing, and then when I use it, it hangs.
[03:03] <nickrud> WhatTheDeuce, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats has a section on flash sound, have you checked that out?
[03:03] <T-CAN> is there any way to get rid of the "synronizing clock to ntp://server.ubuntu.com" step during bootup?
[03:03] <CodeWarrior_> anybody knows about the MHz problem /;
[03:03] <CodeWarrior_> ?
[03:04] <odin_> what MHz problem>?
[03:04] <MarcN> T-CAN: disable the ntpd service?  You don't like you clock accurate?
[03:05] <T-CAN> well, my bootup always stalls on that step
[03:05] <[zero] > Hey anyone around, im having some trouble with installing ubuntu if anyone is avalible to help?
[03:05] <T-CAN> and i have to wait for like 5 minutes for it to skip that step
[03:05] <MarcN> T-CAN: it will eventually timeout.  You don't have a network up?
[03:05] <nickrud> T-CAN, are you on the net when you boot?
[03:05] <Whoops> Where is best place for Totem Player codecs ?
[03:05] <Verithrax> So, big day tomorrow.
[03:06] <T-CAN> well, i did have one up and i thought it was working
[03:06] <T-CAN> but i checked and i guess it wasnt
[03:06] <nickrud> Whoops, install totem-xine, and look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats under Windows Codecs
[03:06] <MarcN> T-CAN: then temporarily disable that daemon.
[03:06] <T-CAN> how?
[03:06] <WhatTheDeuce> nickrud: Thanks.  I'll try thast
[03:06] <WhatTheDeuce> that*
[03:06] <Whoops> thanks Nickrud
[03:06] <MarcN> T-CAN: system->admin->services
[03:07] <MarcN> T-CAN: maybe not there...
[03:07] <nickrud> T-CAN, what are you running, dapper or breezy?
[03:07] <T-CAN> breezy
[03:07] <T-CAN> 5.10
[03:08] <SurfnKid> hey I installed the codecs and I still cant play a WMV under totem
[03:08] <[zero] > I just installed ubuntu but when I boot up it gets to the "Preparing for installation..." and has stayed on 0% for a while :?
[03:08] <SurfnKid> maybe DRM is embedded in it?
[03:08] <nickrud> WhatTheDeuce, no promises, it's worked for a lot of people though
[03:08] <SurfnKid> how can i check
[03:08] <nuggie_> I'm on breezy, and the printer works, but I can't set differetn modes (B&W draft photo quality etc) it did work with cups before with KDE on debian
[03:08] <T-CAN> zero, how long is a while?
[03:08] <[zero] > 5mins
[03:08] <[zero] > maybe longer
[03:08] <nuggie_> hmm worked tihs time
[03:08] <SurfnKid> that is a while
[03:08] <nickrud> nuggie_, gnome's interface to cups totally sucks.
[03:09] <MarcN> T-CAN: apt-get remove ntp-server (or whatever it is called in breezy) ;      use dpkg --list|grep ntp to find what is installed
[03:09] <nuggie_> nickrud: apparently
[03:09] <nickrud> nuggie_, I tend to write ps files & use gtklp for control of the printer
[03:09] <nuggie_> it seems to work now
[03:09] <nickrud> nuggie_, for things that can't control the printer properly
[03:09] <T-CAN> alright, ill give that a try thanks
[03:09] <T-CAN> i saw somewhere that there was like a bootup manager?
[03:09] <T-CAN> but maybe not for breezy
[03:10] <nuggie_> works great now
[03:10] <nuggie_> draft is important to me
[03:10] <nuggie_> quite impressed iwth how easily ubuntu got running
[03:10] <nickrud> T-CAN, edit /etc/defaults/ntpdate ; comment out all time servers
[03:11] <Bimmerman1911> please! i have mounted at vfat partiton in fstab and usd umask=000, why does some of the directorys in the mount are not writable?
[03:11] <T-CAN> so like: sudo gedit /etc/defaults/ntpdate?
[03:11] <nickrud> nuggie_, I use gtklp to set the printer for draft mode as a default, most gnome apps respect that
[03:11] <T-CAN> didnt give them permission
[03:12] <nuggie_> nickrud: the pritner setup works fine
[03:12] <nuggie_> I'm satisfied
[03:12] <nickrud> T-CAN, gksudo "/etc/defaults/ntpdate"
[03:12] <[zero] > I dont think Ubuntu likes me
[03:12] <nickrud> nuggie_, I'm not satisfied, it needs to be better
[03:12] <Bimmerman1911> doesent umask=000 give full permission?????
[03:12] <T-CAN> Bimmer, what did you edit in fstab?
[03:12] <T-CAN> i dont think so
[03:13] <MarcN> Bimmerman1911: no permissions.
[03:13] <T-CAN> 777 maybe?
[03:13] <MarcN> Bimmerman1911: try 666 (not 777)
[03:13] <jameyg> [zero] , maybe it just doesn't like your hardware =)
[03:13] <Bimmerman1911> MarcN, so what umask should i use, i want full right for everybody
[03:13] <nickrud> [zero] , ubuntu loves you, but can be demanding :)
[03:13] <nuggie_> nickrud: so far it works properly for me, I'll stress test it later. It was much better than it used to be
[03:13] <T-CAN> whoops
[03:13] <cato_> hey , i am new with linux i got problems instaling programs, trying to instal mplayer on ubuntu, can anyone help me
[03:13] <jameyg> cato_, what's exactly is the problem?
[03:14] <[zero] > haha it probly doesnt like this hardware
[03:14] <Bimmerman1911> MarcN, il try 666
[03:14] <MarcN> Bimmerman1911: you just mounting a FAT32 partition?
[03:14] <T-CAN> zero, what are you running?
[03:14] <terry_> hi I new user in ubuntu I am install gcc but it not work for sinaptyc when I was execute g++ x.cc it doesnt work
[03:14] <cato_> not sure what to do with the packeges after i download them
[03:14] <nickrud> nuggie_, I can remember using kprinter for everything. I am not a kde fan, but darn, they got that right
[03:14] <nuggie_> cato_: just sudo synaptic to install
[03:14] <[zero] > well the one im trying to install it on is some old stuff :/ pentium 3
[03:14] <Flannel> cato_: you don'tactually manually download the packages.  Well, you can, but there's an easier way.
[03:14] <[zero] > duno the exact specs
[03:15] <MarcN> terry_: install g++ for the C++ compiler.  gcc is the C compiler only
[03:15] <nuggie_> nickrud: yeah, before ubuntu I was using mostly kde
[03:15] <nosklo> [zero] , should work
[03:15] <T-CAN> zero, i run it on a pentiumII MMX
[03:15] <T-CAN> you should be fine
[03:15] <[zero] > Ill reinstall it all again then
[03:15] <Healot> "build-essential" includes gcc and g++
[03:15] <cato_> whats the easy way
[03:15] <drew989> Could i get some help for installing software (i'm a complete Linux newbie)
[03:15] <Flannel> cato_: to have the package managers download them for you.
[03:16] <nickrud> drew989, what software?
[03:16] <leboff> i've got the drives created by dmraid in /dev/mapper but they won't mount, can anyone help?
[03:16] <MarcN> drew989: use either synaptic or the command line apt-get command.  Never have to manually download .deb files.
[03:16] <drew989> well mostly anything that will play mp3s avis etc...
[03:16] <eyequeue> drew989, sudo apt-get install packagename, or dpkg -i foo.deb
[03:16] <SurfnKid> hey guys how do i know that i got the WMV codec installed
[03:16] <cato_> is that the synaptic?
[03:16] <Flannel> cato_: syanptic is a GUI frontend to apt, but yes, synaptic will work
[03:16] <SurfnKid> can i do like lscodec or something
[03:17] <nickrud> drew989, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Start at the top, work your way down. That will get that non-free media stuff working
[03:17] <squiggly> thats what sucks
[03:17] <odin_> okay, when my friend does sudo apt-get install build-essential, he gets "E: Couldn't find package build-essential"
[03:17] <drew989> Thanks tons
[03:17] <drew989> !!!!
[03:17] <ubotu> drew989: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:17] <squiggly> i have a ton of real media movies, and now i can't watch it
[03:18] <odin_> are you sure you don't need to be connected to the net to get it
[03:18] <Milk_> got an odd question
[03:18] <UzzaDead> to get what?
[03:18] <Bimmerman1911> MarcN, i tried umask=666 but that didnt give me any rights att all!?
[03:18] <odin_> UzzaDead: build-essential
[03:18] <UzzaDead> no clue..
[03:18] <UzzaDead> i cant even get my wifi going which is why im here...
[03:19] <T-CAN> ubotu tell T-CAN about CLI
[03:19] <terry_> thanks...
[03:19] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, remember umask in an inverse to chmod
[03:19] <Flannel> squiggly: have you gone through the Howtos?
[03:19] <eyequeue> ubotu, umask
[03:19] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eyequeue
[03:19] <cato_> flannel_: how do i make the it download it for me
[03:19] <T-CAN> Bimmer, code is 777
[03:19] <T-CAN> wait, are you in breezy?
[03:19] <Flannel> cato_: via synaptic?  if you have it marked to "install" it will first download, then install the package
[03:20] <Bimmerman1911> T-CAN, so umask=777 will give me full rights?
[03:20] <squiggly> yes Flannel
[03:20] <squiggly> They just won't open >_<
[03:20] <odin_> can you or can you not apt-get install build-essential without a net connection?
[03:20] <SurfnKid> -_-
[03:20] <T-CAN> 777 will give you no restrictions
[03:20] <squiggly> when they do, they don't play
[03:20] <T-CAN> 775 will give you RWE
[03:20] <cato_> flannel_: i dont see the mplayer on the list ?
[03:20] <T-CAN> for owner
[03:21] <hyphenated> T-CAN: he's asking about umask, which is the complete opposite
[03:21] <wims> so.... Dapper release is tomorrow ?
[03:21] <odin_> wims:  ooo, is it stable now?
[03:21] <eyequeue> Thus, a umask of 022 results in permissions of 755Thus, a umaThus, a umask of 022 results in permissions of 755sk of 022 results in permissions of 755
[03:21] <Flannel> cato_: mplayer is in multiverse
[03:21] <Flannel> !tell cato_ about repositories
[03:21] <crimsun> wims: 1 june
[03:21] <crimsun> wims: so for some $tz, yes
[03:21] <wims> odin_,  i dunno, i only heard june 1
[03:21] <wims> and that's tomorrow isn't it
[03:21] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, remember umask in an inverse to chmod
[03:22] <odin_> wims:  nope, the next day, 31 days in May
[03:22] <wims> odin_,  i'm in europe
[03:22] <wims> it's 31th here
[03:22] <odin_> wims: well, that makes since now doesn't it :)
[03:22] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, here's a url: http://www.ss64.com/bash/umask.html
[03:23] <Verithrax> By the way, how will the Dapper release be announced?
[03:23] <odin_> Verithrax:  pro'lly over the auto-update
[03:23] <Flannel> Verithrax: there will be a listserv announcement
[03:23] <eyequeue> Verithrax, the servers will all slow to a crawl
[03:24] <Flannel> heh, everyone should get bittorrent ready ;)
[03:24] <eyequeue> the only change still pending, i hope, is ubuntu-artwork
[03:24] <wims> do you think apt repositories will be overloaded ?
[03:24] <cato_> flannel_: i saw the info now :)
[03:24] <odin_> Flannel:  the few times I've tried bittorrent, it seemed much slower than normal downloads
[03:24] <cato_> flannel_: thx
[03:24] <Bimmerman1911> now i tried both umask=777 and umask=666 and both give me no rights att all!?
[03:24] <wims> how wide is their bandwidth, is it possible to somehow find out about that ?
[03:25] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, here's a url: http://www.ss64.com/bash/umask.html
[03:25] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, remember umask in an inverse to chmod
[03:25] <Flannel> odin_: it is slower than straight downloads.  Well, if you have a fast server.  But, tomorrow the mirrors will die.
[03:25] <Healot> Bimmerman1911: umask=777 will give 000 :)
[03:25] <Sin_Salida> .
[03:25] <Bimmerman1911> eyequeue, yes, but im kind of a newbie so i dont even know what chmod is
[03:25] <Healot> even root can't access that
[03:25] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, someone earlier was giving bad advice, read the url :)
[03:26] <Bimmerman1911> So it should be umask=000??
[03:26] <crimsun> eyequeue: artwork is final already as of this morning (~13 hours ago)
[03:26] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, again,  read the url :)
[03:26] <Healot> 777 world-writable, nuts?
[03:26] <Healot> 022 is enough
[03:26] <eyequeue> crimsun, cool, then we truly are down to the last stretch :)
[03:27] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, two people in here have contradicted each other, i'd suggest relying on an outside authority :)
[03:27] <nickrud> crimsun, great. Are there some truly outstanding bugs left we should be aware of?
[03:27] <Inazad> Hi there, I need help ?%
[03:28] <Healot> ask, Inazad
[03:28] <eyequeue> crimsun, that thunderbird-quickfile shocked me, i'll admit :)
[03:28] <[zero] > you know the only problem with the instalation with ubuntu?
[03:28] <[zero] > I cant sleep while its doing it
[03:28] <crimsun> nickrud: yes, there's a one in sixteen billion chance your computer will explode when dist-upgrading to dapper. But then again, I'll get to use your bandwidth, so I win.
[03:28] <Bimmerman1911> the funny thing with linux is that to do the most common and loical thing that most people would want to do is the hardest to do and nobody knows how to do it
[03:28] <Bimmerman1911> i just want to be able to use my vfat partition
[03:28] <nickrud> crimsun, if that happens, your're welcome to it :)
[03:28] <Inazad> Healot, I have an old Sharp Palm and it work by the COM' port.. How I can detect the port because the program (emulated by wine) doesn't found the port COM...
[03:29] <odin_> Bimmerman1911:  but the opposite works too, doing the hardest thing is the easiest :P
[03:29] <eyequeue> [zero] , you can do the sudo apt-get -d dist-upgrade while you sleep., then go offline and do it without the -d when you awaken
[03:29] <Healot> WINE question should be ask in #wine, Inazad... anyway not familiar with WINE nor supporting it
[03:29] <Bimmerman1911> umask=000 works but some folders on the vfat partition it has now write rights... how can this be?
[03:29] <T-CAN> Bimmer, have you tried    chmod 666 filename
[03:29] <nickrud> crimsun, but thanks again, I appreciate not having to use windows, or fedora :)
[03:30] <Bimmerman1911> shouldnt umask controll everything on the partition alike?
[03:30] <FarrisG> http://gentlenews.com/theshow  <--- live in 2 minutes
[03:30] <Healot> btw, can you detect hardware using other Linux application, Inazad?
[03:30] <Inazad> Healot, ya but Linux doesn't detect the COM' port ...
[03:30] <crimsun> nickrud: thank yourselves, the community arguably makes Ubuntu more than the developers
[03:30] <Inazad> Healot, wich applications use a COM port ?
[03:30] <Inazad> Healot, loll
[03:30] <[zero] > Humm I think I know why it didnt work :/
[03:30] <T-CAN> Bimmer, maybe it only applies it to files in the directory, not other directories themselves
[03:31] <T-CAN> zero, has it moves yet?
[03:31] <Inazad> [zero] , are u talking to me ?
[03:31] <Bimmerman1911> T-CAN, but some folders are wriatble, it seams totally randow
[03:31] <[zero] > Unable to install initrd-tools
[03:31] <Healot> Inazad: do you know the port for tht COM in windows? COM1/2/3 etc?
[03:31] <[zero] > im kinda talking to myself :/
[03:31] <T-CAN> huh
[03:31] <nickrud> crimsun, now that is a <delete> rediculous statement. Sure, us users can encourage, scold, wish, etc. We will never do the work.
[03:31] <Inazad> Healot, I think it's COM 1
[03:31] <[zero] > t-can i started the installation again
[03:31] <T-CAN> Bimmer, do you have your drive to automount
[03:31] <[zero] > like fromt the start
[03:32] <T-CAN> :(
[03:32] <Healot> Inazad: what device name did you use to detect hardware connected to that COM in linux?
[03:32] <[zero] > but there was an error
[03:32] <T-CAN> i remember my install took a while
[03:32] <Inazad> Healot, device name %?
[03:32] <zanth> is this channel dd help? or is that +1?
[03:32] <pectissimo> Bimmerman1911:  umask is what specifies the default permissions of newly created files.  Files with attributes already set remain with those attributes until changed.
[03:32] <Bimmerman1911> T-CAN,  in fstab i have vfat    rw,users,iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[03:32] <Healot> something like this, Inazad, /dev/ttyS0/1/2?
[03:32] <eyequeue> Zambezi, breezy for another day, then it becomes dapper here
[03:32] <zanth> thanks
[03:33] <Inazad> Healot, hmm I'm noob to Linux so.. I think yes
[03:33] <Bimmerman1911> pectissimo, so if i want all files to be full acess what do i put in fstab?
[03:33] <[zero] > Im gonner get this beast running someday :D
[03:33] <Healot> which one was it? /dev/ttySX? where X is a round number 0,1,2? Inazad
[03:33] <petrik> Ok so I am really starting to think I may be dumb after all. Can someone talk me through sharing a folder and getting another ubuntu PC to see it on the LAN?
[03:33] <pectissimo> Bimmerman1911:  Well, I'd make sure you have, "rw" in the options field.
[03:34] <Inazad> Healot, If I use the port COM 1 in windows, I think is ttyS1
[03:34] <T-CAN> ya zero, its def. worth it
[03:34] <Healot> if your COM port was COM1 in Windows... it should be /dev/ttyS0 in Linux... Inazad, not ttyS1
[03:34] <Bimmerman1911> pectissimo, i have, in fstab is says vfat    rw,users,iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[03:34] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, before you go forward with that, you genuinely want not only the owner, not only the group, but ALL comers, including those hacked into your box to have COMPLETE access?  you've asked for thos a few times, but none have questioned you yet
[03:34] <dblpd> gnomefreak: ok it just finished installing and i ran the install banshee-daap command
[03:34] <Inazad> Healot, ok
[03:35] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, that's typically a very uncommon (unwise) security choice
[03:35] <pectissimo> Bimmerman1911:  Oh, I see, you already do.  So test it out.  Mount it and create a file and check the perms.  Just make sure you are writing to a directory that has permissions which allow it.
[03:35] <Healot> Inazad: os I guess you got the wrong port :)
[03:35] <Bimmerman1911> eyequeue, i dont care about security i just want to use my partition! :) haha
[03:35] <Inazad> Healot, I think I have to put a symbolic link in my wine/dosdevices...
[03:35] <Inazad> Healot, I'll try
[03:36] <Healot> yup, sure Inazad
[03:36] <Bimmerman1911> is it ony me that is interessted to write to my harddrive
[03:36] <T-CAN> what do you mean you cant "use" it?
[03:36] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, WE care about security if it's your zombie box used to attack the rest of the net
[03:36] <Healot> Bimmerman1911: then, umask=000 would do in your condition :)
[03:36] <habenix> is NFSv4 in dapper kernel yet?
[03:36] <Zambezi> eyequeue: I thought so. I tried Dapper today, but only serverrelease.
[03:36] <Bimmerman1911> Healot, i should but it doesent
[03:36] <BioVorE> habenix: I think brezzy had it
[03:37] <Inazad> Healot, or maybe it's COM2???
[03:37] <pectissimo> darn satellite connection :-)
[03:37] <Healot> Inazad: if your Windows says so, then it's /dev/ttyS1 (COM2)
[03:37] <eyequeue> i'd go so far to say chmod 000 is appriate for those who choose no security
[03:37] <Bimmerman1911> eyequeue, what does that have to do with having rights to my vfat partition?
[03:38] <Inazad> Healot, How many COM port we have ?
[03:38] <Inazad> 3-4 ?
[03:38] <Bimmerman1911> eyequeue, could i put chmod=000 in fstab?
[03:38] <Healot> i don't know your PC, Inazad
[03:38] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, you appear to be asking to grant read/write/execute/delete access to the universe
[03:38] <telache> I'm trying to get a Netgear PCI wifi card to work.  Any suggestions?  It's not showing up as a device,
[03:38] <Healot> I only have one COM... Inazad, hence on /dev/ttyS0 (COM1)
[03:38] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, my "chmod 000" was not advice, it was hyperbole, it would grant you zero permission to your box, you really doesn't want that
[03:39] <Arasthene> ^^
[03:39] <Bimmerman1911> eyequeue, so chmod=777?
[03:39] <Inazad> Healot, When I click on AutoDetect in my program, my palm is open and it said Communicating... when I click so the port and my palm can communicate
[03:40] <pectissimo> Bimmerman1911:  umask=000 is equivalent to having the default attributes on newly created files set to mode 777.  You want, "umask=000" in your fstab, not chmod.
[03:40] <Healot> can you do anything with you Palm device, Inazad, did it say connecteD?
[03:40] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, i'm not contributing to your making your box a zombie platform.  but no, chmod is not something you would put in /etc/fstab, only things in "man 8 mount" or "man 5 fstab" go in there, ignore the chmod comment please
[03:40] <Bimmerman1911> eyequeue, ok, for security sake... if i wish to give full rights to a user, what do i put in fstab?
[03:40] <habenix> And one more thing: Is it better to run the i386 version of Linux/Xen on a Xeon or the iA64 version?
[03:40] <Bimmerman1911> pectissimo, i have umask=000 but it doesent giv me full rights to some directorys
[03:40] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, 022 is a common umask
[03:41] <Bimmerman1911> eyequeue, and 022 gives write rights to whom?
[03:41] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, owner
[03:41] <shriphani> guys need serious help
[03:41] <shriphani> gnome failed to load twice
[03:42] <shriphani> and it doesnt load even now
[03:42] <Bimmerman1911> eyequeue, and the owner is root, so how do specify owner in fstab?
[03:42] <eyequeue> Bimmerman1911, have you yet read: http://www.ss64.com/bash/umask.html
[03:42] <telache> Something is wrong with my apt-get it keeps outputting "Segmentation faulty tree... 50%" when I try to install something.
[03:42] <shriphani> people someone help me gnome failed to load
[03:42] <pectissimo> Bimmerman1911:  umask sets the default permissions for --->  NEWLY CREATED <-- files, not existing ones!  So, to answer you question, some directories apparently have permissions that disallow you to create files in them.
[03:43] <shriphani> man can anyone help me i left my system on for a while so that it could update and after installing the updates gnome failed to load
[03:43] <Bimmerman1911> pectissimo, and if i use chmod does that effekt old and new files?
[03:43] <shriphani> someone help!!!!!
[03:43] <pectissimo> Bimmerman1911:  Yes.
[03:43] <ctothej> hey , my kubuntu dapper installer keeps hanging on me. is there anything i can do? im on the live cd now, performing the install from here
[03:44] <eyequeue> chmod -R affects what already exists, not what isn't imagined yet
[03:44] <unkn0wn2u> shriphani, your at a 10 i need you at a 4
[03:44] <shriphani> huh
[03:44] <Bimmerman1911> pectissimo, so chmod=777 it is then
[03:44] <shriphani> i didnt understand unkn0wn2u
[03:44] <eyequeue> umode effects what isn't imagined yet, not what already exists
[03:44] <unkn0wn2u> shriphani, hit ctrl alt f1
[03:45] <shriphani> done
[03:45] <eyequeue> again, chmod is NOT a mount(9) nor fstab(5) option
[03:45] <unkn0wn2u> shriphani, login
[03:45] <shriphani> nothing happens
[03:45] <eyequeue> mount(8) rather
[03:45] <pectissimo> Bimmerman1911:  Sorry about my flaky satellite connection!  It's a struggle to even stay connected is seems!
[03:45] <nickrud> eyequeue, heh. not imagined yet. Do you have any advice for auto matically creating permissions on new dirs in a dir that is supposed to be shared between certain users?
[03:45] <ubuntu> Hi, I was wondering how I change the video resolution in ubuntu, I just booted up on the live cd and it wont allow me to go above 640x480@60
[03:45] <shriphani> the screen doent appear
[03:45] <tian> does anyone knows how to make Cannon mp130 printer working with usb?
[03:46] <unkn0wn2u> shriphani, ya it sounds like your xserver crashed so reboot and load the safe mode
[03:46] <shriphani> only the original black screen does
[03:46] <Flannel> !tell ubuntu about resolution
[03:46] <shriphani> how ?
[03:46] <Flannel> ubuntu: read the pm from ubotu
[03:46] <eyequeue> nickrud, hmmm, i'll ponder a bit.  the "sticky bit" (of /tmp typically) might be useful offhand
[03:46] <nefelim> hello; how can i point my system to use the newest jre version i installed? thanks
[03:46] <nickrud> ubuntu, most likely your monitor refresh rates were not recognized
[03:46] <rixxon> NOW i see why people come here with the nick ubuntu
[03:46] <shriphani> i mean i am new to this so this will not help me at all
[03:46] <rixxon> default livecd login :P
[03:46] <Bimmerman1911> how does this sound vfat    rw,iocharset=utf8,chmod=777?
[03:46] <ubuntu> system>preferences>screen resolution will not allow me to select anything else other than 640x480@60hz
[03:46] <dblpd> gnomefreak: are you still around?
[03:46] <shriphani> what is the safe mode?
[03:46] <ubuntu> nickrun: so what do I need to do to change that?
[03:46] <pectissimo> Bimmerman1911:  Nope!
[03:46] <shriphani> the recovery mode ?
[03:47] <Bimmerman1911> pectissimo, why?
[03:47] <unkn0wn2u> shriphani, ya
[03:47] <ChrisD> hello all
[03:47] <eyequeue> nickrud, i presume a common group is already shared, if not, that's first step
[03:47] <shriphani> ok so i should do it now ?
[03:47] <nickrud> eyequeue, tried that, I'm looking at acls currently. But I haven't got my head around them yet. Let alone finding out if they give what I need
[03:47] <unkn0wn2u> shriphani, yep
[03:47] <shriphani> what will happen if i do that ?
[03:47] <ChrisD> anyone care to help me get amaroK working in ubuntu 6.06?
[03:47] <nefelim> hello; how can i point my system to use the newest jre version i installed? thanks
[03:47] <nickrud> eyequeue, yes, common group done
[03:47] <tian> does anyone knows how to make Cannon mp130 printer working with usb?
[03:48] <unkn0wn2u> shriphani, it loads single user mode
[03:48] <shriphani> ok
[03:48] <shriphani> so i should be getting gnome there ?
[03:48] <Lup1nIII> hello
[03:48] <pectissimo> Bimmerman1911:  chmod is not a legal option for fstab.  Use umask.
[03:48] <nickrud> eyequeue, I can always change the perms as needed, I'm trying to automate perms on new dirs.
[03:48] <nefelim> hello
[03:48] <unkn0wn2u> shriphani, wow
[03:48] <nickrud> so I can sleep :)
[03:48] <eyequeue> nickrud, and 'chgrp grpname && chmod g+rwx foo/' isn't enough?
[03:48] <Bimmerman1911> pectissimo, haha, and that takes me back to step 1
[03:49] <nickrud> eyequeue, no, because that requires intervention each day
[03:49] <shriphani> unkn0wn2u: can you please tell me if i shall be able to get gnome after recovery mode
[03:49] <Bimmerman1911> pectissimo, if i put owner=xxxx and dont put any umask att all would that give any rights to xxxx?
[03:49] <eyequeue> nickrud, ah, i've made a parent dir that's chown g+s && chgrp staff, would that be similar?
[03:50] <eyequeue> nickrud, all new subdirs become group staff
[03:50] <nickrud> ah.
[03:50] <shriphani> unkn0wn2u: will it work ?
[03:50] <pectissimo> Bimmerman1911:  Set up your fstab file with umask.  Then, mount it and manually change the permissions of the dir(s)/files that you need access to.
[03:50] <nickrud> A new direction to check. I'm no unix guru, thanks eydaimon
[03:50] <ctothej> I get this error when installing dapper: "failed to create a file system". help would be much appreciated
[03:50] <nickrud> A new direction to check. I'm no unix guru, thanks eyequeue
[03:50] <shriphani> unkn0wn2u: !!!!!!
[03:50] <unkn0wn2u> shriphani, your bugging me recovery mode is a way to fix what is wrong
[03:51] <eyequeue> nickrud, you end up "polluting" the tree with an additional subdir, but it seems to cover my needs (/var/web/sites/*)
[03:51] <shriphani> ok so how do i go about there
[03:51] <unkn0wn2u> shriphani, maybe you should just reinstall
[03:51] <nefelim> hello
[03:51] <shriphani> what !!!!
[03:51] <shriphani> reinstall !!!
[03:51] <Flannel> shriphani: please, lose the exclamation points.
[03:51] <nickrud> eyequeue, it's something I haven't tried. maybe I can adapt it.
[03:51] <shriphani> ok sorry Flannel
[03:51] <unkn0wn2u> shriphani, get into recovery mode and chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[03:52] <ecormier> ctothej: are you using the live cd
[03:52] <nefelim> can anyone show me the command on changing java version
[03:52] <cato_> flannel_: when i install the programs how do i find them ?
[03:52] <shriphani> ok then ?
[03:52] <eyequeue> nickrud, adduser foo webmasters, adduser bar webmasters, then ignore them if they're trusted there  :)
[03:52] <Flannel> cato_: you mean after you install them, how do you run them?
[03:52] <ctothej> ecormier: yes i am
[03:53] <ecormier> ctothej: do you know if your hard disk is sata or not?
[03:53] <rata> hi
[03:53] <rata> I am setting up a server with ubuntu dapper, and i must change locales (actually it uses utf-8, and i need iso-8859-1). I tried dpkg-reconfigure locales, check that dpkg-reconfigure debconf it is readline. Any idea ? i am not doing things well, isnt it ?
[03:53] <ctothej> ecormier: yes it is sata
[03:53] <shriphani> is that all unkn0wn2u ?
[03:53] <ecormier> use the install cd
[03:53] <[zero] > any where I can get an older version of ubuntu?
[03:53] <Flannel> rata: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support, until the 1st.
[03:53] <bombyx_mori> hello. i just tried to install linux from a boot disc i burned. i started up the computer w/ the disc and it gave me a "missing operating system" message. anyone?
[03:53] <Flannel> [zero] : ubuntu.com has the older versions too.
[03:53] <unkn0wn2u> shriphani, nope so just leave me alone now
[03:53] <nickrud> eyequeue, adduser foo I know, it's the perms later. But I'll create a dir, and play a bit with your suggestions. If nothing else, I'll know a bit more
[03:54] <ecormier> the livecd installer seems to crash with sata....
[03:54] <[zero] > thankx Flannel
[03:54] <ecormier> or it did for me
[03:54] <rata> Flannel, ok :). I already asked there, i ask here just in case. Lot of thanks anyway :)
[03:54] <shriphani> err so reinstallation is the last draw ?
[03:54] <eyequeue> nickrud, always nice :)
[03:54] <Flannel> ecormier: #ubuntu+1 for dapper stuffs
[03:54] <ecormier> Flannel: yeah I know...tell him
[03:54] <ctothej> ecormier: ohh. this is the only dapper cd available for download...
[03:54] <ecormier> nope
[03:54] <ctothej> ?
[03:54] <ecormier> hold on
[03:54] <Okita> I'm dual-booting and Windows wrecked my MBR... how can I get the nice bootloader Dapper installed for me back?
[03:55] <eyequeue> nickrud, making a dir sGid (not suid) is the basic trick i use
[03:55] <cato_> flannel_: yes
[03:55] <Flannel> rata: you might try searching the forums
[03:55] <shriphani> ok thanks for the help people
[03:55] <Okita> Hopefully I won't need to redo the grub.conf or whatever?
[03:55] <shriphani> exit
[03:55] <bombyx_mori> has anyone else gotten a
[03:55] <shriphani> q
[03:55] <shriphani> quit
[03:55] <shriphani> damn
[03:55] <shriphani> how do i exit this
[03:55] <rata> Flannel, ok, lot of thanks again :)
[03:55] <Flannel> cato_: if they're not in the menues, you can hit ctrl-f2 and type the name of the program.  that's usually the executable
[03:55] <spikeb> you can't!
[03:55] <spikeb> bwahahaha
[03:56] <nickrud> Okita, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:56] <eyequeue> bombyx_mori, two things come to mind, a bad burn (check md5?) or the drive can't handle bootable cds as configured presently in bios
[03:57] <eyequeue> bombyx_mori2, two things come to mind, a bad burn (check md5?) or the drive can't handle bootable cds as configured presently in bios
[03:58] <ecormier> ctothej: here http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/ and choose the "Alternate install CD"
[03:58] <zuhause01xx> hello, can somebody please tell with what command i can find out my IP since i am using a router DHCP
[03:58] <ecormier> ctothej: by the way ...you should be asking questions to do with dapper in the dapper channel #ubuntu+1
[03:58] <spikeb> zuhause01xx, ifconfig
[03:58] <nickrud> is there a particular reason for advising the alternate install cd?
[03:59] <bombyx_mori2> yeah, it might be configured wrong, but i can't figure out how to get into BIOS. all of the common keys haven't been working (f10, f11, f12 etc.)
[03:59] <ecormier> yeah...the partitioning works for sata
[03:59] <eyequeue> zuhause01xx, local, ifconfig
[03:59] <ctothej> ecormier: oh ok thanks. the live cd is set to auto join this chan
[03:59] <eyequeue> zuhause01xx, remote, point browser to http://whatismyipaddress.com/
[03:59] <Flannel> nickrud: alternate works more places, gives more options, can setup raid, etc.  The page talks about it's uses.
[03:59] <nickrud> zuhause01xx, ipconfig | grep inet should give you your public ip
[03:59] <bombyx_mori2> i have a compaq armada 7800. is ther any other way to get into the BIOS?
[04:00] <ecormier> this'll be the right channel in 2 days right :)
[04:00] <eyequeue> bombyx_mori, sorry that i don't know that hardware
[04:00] <nickrud> Flannel, yes, more info, more options, more errors. My experience. Are the others inferior?
[04:00] <ctothej> will there be many changes until then?
[04:00] <zuhause01xx> but i thought it would be something like 192.168.... but there is nothing there that stands for it..
[04:00] <nefelim> helo; what is tht correct syntax for update-alternatives, so i can update for my new java version?
[04:00] <bombyx_mori2> oh ok, thanks anyway. i'll try burnning a new copy of the cd and see if that works
[04:00] <eyequeue> bombyx_mori2, on a whim, is there a channel #compaq ?
[04:00] <ecormier> seems like every 5 minutes new updates
[04:00] <Flannel> nickrud: more errors?  It's the old text-mode installer, it's solid as a rock.
[04:01] <nickrud> Flannel, user errors
[04:01] <dmbt> bobslaede: no
[04:01] <bombyx_mori2> oh, maybe. i'll check, thanks!
[04:01] <zuhause01xx> inet addr?
[04:01] <zuhause01xx> =local
[04:01] <ctothej> nice. is it easy to upgrade?
[04:01] <nefelim> helo; what is tht correct syntax for update-alternatives, so i can update for my new java version?
[04:01] <ecormier> nickrud: the live installer on sata left my ntfs unusable
[04:01] <eyequeue> zuhause01xx, yes
[04:01] <Okita> nickrud: Thanks, wrestling with grub now =)
[04:01] <Flannel> nickrud: server install JUST installs the server OS.  the liveCD... well, besides being a liveCD, and having to do that first, it does have some errors sometimes.  I think most are fixed now, but still, I will never use the liveCD installer.
[04:01] <zuhause01xx> cool thanks!!!!
[04:02] <ecormier> ctothej: very easy...it notifies you from the task tray
[04:02] <ctothej> f'in sweet
[04:02] <Okita> Who knows what my partition numbers are supposed to be in grub-language
[04:02] <Flannel> Okita: IDE? Sata? primary? slave? etc etc.  details!
[04:02] <Jaak> how can i share folders with other systems (ubuntu and windows)?
[04:02] <Flannel> !tell Jaak about samba
[04:03] <Okita> Flannel: hda2 should be what, root (hd0,1)?
[04:03] <Jaak> !tell Jaak about samba
[04:03] <ctothej> ecormier: im off to install with the alternate cd. thanks alot! ill be back after the install.
[04:03] <nickrud> Flannel, heh. I'm running off an older live cd install, with updates. I seriously want to point poeple at what works best, most often. I only run one machine so I am seriously interested in best advice
[04:03] <ecormier> cool good luck
[04:03] <nefelim> could somebody here help me please?
[04:03] <Flannel> nickrud: shrug, I don't think the text-mode install CD is difficult, especially in basic mode.
[04:03] <eyequeue> Okita, counting starts at (hd0,0)
[04:03] <Flannel> Okita: right.
[04:04] <Projekt2> nefelim, don't ask to ask just ask
[04:04] <nickrud> Flannel, ok. I'll just watch, and wait.
[04:04] <nefelim> been asking a while ago seems everyone are busy
[04:04] <ecormier> <nefelim: question
[04:05] <Jaak> thanks for Samba, who thinks of those names!!! I they called it Windows Network Protocol or something I would have found it! =P
[04:05] <Flannel> nickrud: liveCD is good for bringing people in, since they can try it first.  But, the install CD is nice because you can install right way, don't have to wait for liveCD to boot and stuff.
[04:05] <nefelim> i got a problem with my java version how could i update it? cant seem to understand the updat-alternatives soory i'm new to linux
[04:05] <eyequeue> nickrud, though i think i missed something, i would definitely say the text-mode installers of late have been well within your abilities
[04:05] <Flannel> Jaak: It's not just Windows though.  Why would they call it that?
[04:06] <Bonny> hiii
[04:06] <nickrud> Flannel, and I've seen a few issues that people have had trying to install from the live cd. I had no problems (none I couldn't deal with). I want to know what to point joe blow at. Cuz 3 months from now, I'll see joe saying, why doesn't this work.
[04:06] <ecormier> nefelim: first http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_add_extra_repositories then: sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[04:06] <rob138> is there a way to extract the files of an .EXE installer? i know winrar can in windows, just wondering if there is an alternative to doing this in ubuntu?
[04:06] <leboff> i've got the drives created by dmraid in /dev/mapper but they won't mount, can anyone help?
[04:07] <nickrud> Flannel, but I realize you're also in my shoes :)
[04:07] <andrejkw> Dapper is coming the 1st right?
[04:07] <petrik> Does anyone know how to use the Shared folder utility in ubuntu? I'm sharing folders with all types of setting but can not see it on the filebrowser on the other pc
[04:07] <sol> what is my $HOME drive?
[04:07] <andrejkw> rob138: cabextract
[04:07] <sol> anyone know
[04:07] <crysalis> hey, i'm really new to Linux so forgive this question but How can i creat desktop shortcuts..like a shortcut for my home folder or computer folder?
[04:07] <Okita> Grub won't let me do any of my partitions, and grub-install says "[partition name ]  does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
[04:07] <Flannel> sol: ~/ or /home/[username] /
[04:07] <MarcN> sol: ~/ or usually /home/youraccountname
[04:07] <sol> is it differ
[04:07] <eyequeue> rob138, you have "something" running as self-extracting app
[04:07] <rob138> eyequeue, what?
[04:07] <ecormier> <crysalis: click and drag while pressing the "alt" key gives you the link option
[04:07] <sol> im getting permiss error when il logon
[04:07] <nefelim> :ecornier yeah i already installed the new java version but still my system is pointing on the old one 1.4
[04:08] <eyequeue> rob138, is it an unrar app?  an unzip app?  etc?  there is most of your answer
[04:08] <PyroMithrandir> sol, no it doesn't differ ~ directs to /home/username
[04:08] <sol> saying i should set it to 644 but that locked me out
[04:08] <spikeb> nefelim, type sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:08] <spikeb> nefelim, then pick the new java
[04:08] <rob138> eyequeue, it's an installer? it's neither,  andrejkw
[04:08] <crysalis> awesome!! thanks ecormier
[04:08] <rob138> 's answer worked
[04:08] <eyequeue> rob138, if it's an unzip app, then infozip unzip typically ignores that and works around ity
[04:08] <ecormier> <nefelim: echo 3 | sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:08] <ecormier> crysalis: np
[04:08] <nefelim> okay spike i'll try it thanks
[04:08] <sol> so im afraid to chmod anymore
[04:08] <sol> :)
[04:09] <leboff> i've got the drives created by dmraid in /dev/mapper but they won't mount, can anyone help?
[04:09] <eyequeue> rob138, okay, let me ask this, with one word emphasized:  what FORMAT is the "installer" decompressing?
[04:09] <rob138> eyequeue, couldn't tell you : ) i got it off microsoft's website
[04:09] <PyroMithrandir> sol, 644 should work. it means the owner can read and write and others can read
[04:10] <MarcN> rob138: why are you expecting a windows exe to run on Linux?
[04:10] <nefelim> at last thanks, it works, thanks; spikeb and ecormier
[04:10] <eyequeue> rob138, something tells me asking them might not help :)  run "file" on it yet?  (/usr/bin/file foo.exe)
[04:10] <spikeb> nefelim, you're welcome :)
[04:10] <rob138> MarcN, i'm not, i'm trying to get something running in Wine
[04:10] <nefelim> till next time :) thank you again
[04:10] <eyequeue> rob138, file may tell you wht compression format you have to decompress
[04:10] <sol> it wont lock me out
[04:10] <MarcN> rob138: then use from the command line:                   wine ./whatever.exe
[04:10] <rob138> eyequeue, i did cabextract installer.exe and it extracted it, so it worked for what i needed
[04:10] <sol> thx pyro
[04:11] <eyequeue> rob138, okay, it apparently was a "cab" :)
[04:11] <rob138> eyequeue, yeah thanks for the help though
[04:11] <rob138> :0
[04:11] <rob138> :)
[04:11] <eyequeue> rob138, sure
[04:11] <tate> has anyone here ever installed freeorion
[04:12] <nickrud> no. tate. what's freeorion?
[04:12] <unkn0wn2u> is there an inotify kernel around for breezy
[04:12] <tate> http://www.freeorion.org
[04:13] <tate> It's an open source recreation of Masters of Orion
[04:13] <tate> but they are extending it with new features
[04:13] <spikeb> oooh
[04:14] <ecormier> <tate: check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=204752
[04:14] <ecormier> <tate: or better yet http://www.freeorion.org/index.php/User:Mvor/Ubuntu
[04:15] <ecormier> googles a great thing :)
[04:15] <nickrud> unkn0wn2u, the breezy kernel hs CONFIG_INOTIFY=y
[04:15] <dblpd> im new to linux. i just upgraded to dapper and now linux wont play any audio files, it just gives playback errors?
[04:15] <tate> I am having trouble with their ubuntu installation instrucitons
[04:16] <ecormier> dblpd: use #ubuntu+1 and check here http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[04:16] <Flannel> tate: what's the problem
[04:16] <dblpd> ok thanks
[04:16] <tate> two things, I can't seem to install something called bcp
[04:16] <tate> which I don't even know what that is
[04:17] <ecormier> <tate: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[04:18] <ecormier> <tate: then sudo apt-get install bcp
[04:18] <tate> I have, it's not listed
[04:18] <unkn0wn2u> is there an inotify kernel around for breezy
[04:18] <Flannel> ecormier: bcp isn't in the repositories
[04:18] <ecormier> <tate: after sudo apt-get update
[04:18] <ecormier> <Flannel: oops....you know what I'm in right (dapper)
[04:18] <nickrud> bcp is in dapper, not breezy if it matters
[04:18] <ecormier> sorry
[04:18] <SurfnKid> !apache
[04:18] <ubotu> methinks apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:19] <ChrisD> can anyone help me get amaroK working?
[04:19] <ecormier> <ChrisD: whats wrong
[04:20] <nickrud> ChrisD, in what way?
[04:20] <ChrisD> i'm running amarok 1.4 but it won't play mp3
[04:20] <ChrisD> it's running the xine engine in ubuntu 6.06
[04:20] <notjadacyrus> How come update-manager keeps telling me to upgrade to the same stuff over and over. Like xorg 7 when i clearly already have xorg 7 installed
[04:20] <ChrisD> i'm pretty sure i installed all the codecs but it still won't work
[04:20] <Okita> So I can't get the rescue functionality from a Dapper CD?  The stuff on this page isn't helping me:
[04:20] <Okita> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:20] <wilan> Hi guys
[04:21] <intelikey> notjadacyrus subversions
[04:21] <nickrud> ChrisD, have you installed libxine-extracodecs
[04:21] <notjadacyrus> yeah but everytime i install the xserver-xorg and all that it messes up my nvidia driver, so i have to go and reinstall that
[04:21] <danl> are there any near dreamweaver quality html editors for linux?
[04:21] <ChrisD> no i don't
[04:22] <ChrisD> hm
[04:22] <ChrisD> it doesn't show up in synaptic
[04:22] <SurfnKid> hey is there a name database where all the module-packages from GNU/Linux
[04:22] <intelikey> notjadacyrus the price you pay for running bata
[04:22] <nickrud> ChrisD, read !components & !repos
[04:22] <SurfnKid> created by their authors that can be looked up?
[04:22] <nickrud> !components
[04:22] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[04:22] <Commander-Crowe> hey I need help
[04:22] <nickrud> !repos
[04:22] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:22] <notjadacyrus> how do i get off beta
[04:23] <Commander-Crowe> does anyone know if HLDS will work on UBuntu/
[04:23] <notjadacyrus> just keep dist-upgrading ?
[04:23] <intelikey> notjadacyrus it should calm down in a few days.
[04:23] <intelikey> notjadacyrus yes just keep dist-upgrading
[04:23] <cam> Ive followed this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24853 to compile my kernel, menu.lst has been update, when i boot from the new kernel I got a Kernel panic : VFS unable to find root file system (entry in menu.lst is /vmlinuz-2.6.16.18 root=/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root ro quiet splash) ext3 is builtin ...what's wrong ?
[04:23] <nickrud> notjadacyrus, you need to be sure to install the linux-restricted-modules that matches your current running kernel
[04:23] <notjadacyrus> yeah
[04:23] <Commander-Crowe> does anyone know if HLDS will work on UBuntu/
[04:24] <nickrud> notjadacyrus, every single time
[04:24] <Okita> Arrrrgh, GRUB keeps saying that "selected disk does not exist when I try to do setup (hd0)
[04:24] <ecormier> <Commander-Crowe: what is HLDS
[04:24] <notjadacyrus> but uhm, is there a way to tell one part of the dapper version hierarchy im currently in
[04:24] <sol> what is my $HOME/.drive file
[04:24] <Commander-Crowe> half life Dedicated server
[04:24] <altereg0> Okita, try /dev/hda
[04:24] <recyclebin> HLDS = advenced IDS?
[04:24] <recyclebin> o.o
[04:24] <ecormier> Commander-Crowe: sorry no idea
[04:24] <intelikey> notjadacyrus yes, but i can't tell ya how....
[04:24] <dxdemetriou> hi
[04:25] <leboff> i did it by the way.. so you dont have to hear me ask for any more dmraid help!
[04:25] <nickrud> notjadacyrus, if you install linux-386 it should pull in the current restricted format package every time. That's it's purpose
[04:25] <recyclebin> ih
[04:25] <notjadacyrus> yeah
[04:25] <recyclebin> haey
[04:25] <notjadacyrus> intelikely, how come?
[04:26] <nickrud> heh. Yeah you do, you just have it internalized, not verbalized, intelikey
[04:26] <Okita> altereg0: Error while parsing number
[04:26] <cam> the output of fdisk -l is : /dev/sda1   *           1          31      248976   83  Linux | /dev/sda2              32        4865    38829105    5  Extended | /dev/sda5              32        4865    38829073+  8e  Linux LVM
[04:26] <intelikey> lol
[04:26] <sol> what is my home/.drive file?  it has a permission problem
[04:26] <SurfnKid> hey guys how can i permanently stop my NTFS from mounting
[04:26] <SurfnKid> now i cant get it to stop mounting on its own
[04:26] <intelikey> maybe turncated nickrud
[04:26] <dxdemetriou> I have the Ubuntu Breezy on one pc and the beta Dapper on other. When Dapper is out can I use the packages from Synaptic for upgrade so to not needed the redownloading for all packages?
[04:26] <altereg0> Okita, you're tryingto install grub to theMBR, right?
[04:26] <terry_> sorry who can help me for fix this problem ...I aret now what I do...
[04:26] <ecormier> SurfnKid: in "system-admin-disks"
[04:26] <altereg0> *MBR
[04:26] <terry_> Cannot launch entry
[04:26] <terry_> Details: Failed to execute child process "gksudo" (No such file or directory)
[04:26] <Okita> altereg0: Yup
[04:27] <GeorgeAScott> hey.. i've got a quick question... i installed breezy without a soundcard... then went and bought one... i havne't installed it yet and i was wondering if i'm going to have to reinstall or recompile the kernel?
[04:27] <ecormier> <GeorgeAScott: plug it in and it should work
[04:27] <altereg0> Okita, normally you just do a sudo grub-install /dev/hda   if I remember correctly
[04:27] <GeorgeAScott> sweetness... as soon as i finish these french fries
[04:27] <SurfnKid> ecormier yeah disabled and it works, but then when i save a file from www to my pc, the hda1 NTFS is there again
[04:28] <altereg0> Okita, just be sure your /boot/grub/menu.lst is right
[04:28] <intelikey> cam     hmmm   root=/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root ro quiet splash <----   root=/dev/sda5   dude
[04:28] <nickrud> dxdemetriou, yes, but I'm not sure I can verbalize it :)
[04:28] <Okita> altereg0: Yeah, I tried that already... It may be a moot point since I tried to partly step through the installer and maybe now my Ubuntu installation is b0rked anyway
[04:28] <sol> when i login im getting an error message  say something about  $HOME/.drive file ......
[04:28] <altereg0> Okita, ah, that's adifferentstorythen
[04:28] <SurfnKid> this is weird
[04:29] <Okita> altereg0: Before, it used to mount, at least
[04:29] <ecormier> SurfnKid: run the command sudo gedit /etc/fstab and then add noauto where auto was
[04:29] <GeorgeAScott> thanks bye
[04:29] <Okita> Ah well, looks like I'm doing everything from scratch
[04:29] <SurfnKid> ah
[04:29] <SurfnKid> ok let me check
[04:29] <khuna> how do i update firefox on linux plz help me
[04:29] <altereg0> Okita, I would boot the live CD and check df -h  and fdisk -l /dev/hda
[04:29] <Flannel> !tell khuna about ff1.5
[04:30] <altereg0> Okita, to see what is actually there
[04:30] <ChrisD> i got amaroK working
[04:30] <SurfnKid> #Added by diskmounter utility
[04:30] <SurfnKid> /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[04:30] <ChrisD> thanks for the help
[04:30] <ChrisD> ^__^
[04:30] <recyclebin> -__-
[04:30] <nickrud> Okita, I wasn't really following, but that wiki page should allow you to recreate the proper boot for ubuntu. What's the issue?
[04:30] <Okita> altereg0: The partitions are indeed still there, I just can't mount the linux partition anymore
[04:30] <cam> intelikey, oh really ?? should I replace /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root to /dev/sda5 then ?
[04:30] <khuna> help me
[04:30] <intelikey> cam try it.
[04:30] <Flannel> khuna: read your pm from ubotu
[04:30] <dxdemetriou> nickrud: ok. Its better from beginning :). From my upgrade some packages arent downloadable, but there are in synaptic. I will have problems like this in final release?
[04:31] <altereg0> Okita, how are youtrying to mount them ?
[04:31] <petrik> When you share a folder what do you use to view it on the other PC?
[04:31] <ecormier> <SurfnKid: add noauto after the user and put a comma after
[04:31] <cam> intelikey, oki, rebooting ;) tx
[04:31] <khuna> o were do i find that im new to linux
[04:31] <Commander-Crowe> does anyone know if HLDS will work on UBuntu/
[04:31] <nickrud> khuna, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:31] <SurfnKid> ecormier hehe thats what i was thinking to do! but thought of get ur help first ok
[04:31] <Flannel> khuna: what are you using to talk in irc? xchat?
[04:31] <SurfnKid> user,auto,fmas.....
[04:31] <khuna> yea
[04:31] <ecormier> SurfnKid: hopefully that works
[04:31] <SurfnKid> i mean noauto
[04:31] <Flannel> nickrud: right, I should've just done that.
[04:31] <nickrud> khuna, or wait 3 days, and upgrade to daper. It's a later firefox
[04:31] <ecormier> right
[04:31] <SurfnKid> k
[04:32] <intelikey> Commander-Crowe what is HLDS ?
[04:32] <SurfnKid> ok done
[04:32] <Okita> nickrud: I followed those instructions, but grub and grub-install gave me various errors, and I may have stepped a little too far into the install script, and I'm afraid it may have erased the Linux install on my original partition
[04:32] <SurfnKid> now im gonna write down all  the commands u said
[04:32] <SurfnKid> thanks
[04:32] <nickrud> Okita, ouch.
[04:32] <ecormier> cheers
[04:32] <altereg0> khuna, are you registered with nickserv?  /msg nickserv register <your password>
[04:32] <phreekbird> sup yall
[04:32] <Okita> nickrud: I guess the good news is that I only did the install day before yesterday
[04:32] <khuna> no
[04:32] <nickrud> Okita, yeah, that is gooooood news :)
[04:33] <altereg0> khuna, then ubotu won'ttalkto you ;)
[04:33] <nickrud> khuna, why not?
[04:33] <Okita> nickrud: I'm fscking it now just in case, but anyways, it's weird that grub didn't want to run any of the commands on that page you gave me
[04:33] <altereg0> khuna, just register your nick
[04:33] <intelikey> yessir break earily & break often......
[04:33] <ecormier> <altereg0: how do I register the nick
[04:33] <Flannel> ecormier: /msg nickserv help register
[04:33] <altereg0>   /msg nickserv register <your password>
[04:34] <nickrud> Okita, hrm. Me, I don't run windows, so I point people at that page because it seems to work.
[04:34] <ecormier> altereg0: i just enter that like a normal message and my password doesn't go to all of you right?
[04:35] <altereg0> ecormier, you just enter it - I suggest changing to the server channel to be sure in case you mis-type
[04:35] <Flannel> ecormier: /msg nickserv means the message goes to nickserv.  Go to the server window, if you want to be safe (or start a query with nickserv, then ditch the /msg nickserv bit)
[04:35] <intelikey> ecormier the whold point of /mst  is that only the  /msg'd sees it.
[04:36] <H080J03> i am having trouble with running wine with XGL, if i start a program with wine, xgl crashes, any one know how to slove this?
[04:36] <Flannel> H080J03: #ubuntu+1 or maybe even #ubuntu-xgl for that.
[04:37] <ecormier> altereg0 <Flannel <intelikey : thanks
[04:37] <intelikey> !
[04:37] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[04:37] <intelikey> oh
[04:37] <intelikey> !start a distro war
[04:37] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[04:37] <crysalis> how would i navigate using terminal..for example in dos i would type cd documents to get in that folder...how is it for linux?
[04:37] <Flannel> intelikey, you're greater than I am.
[04:37] <Flannel> crysalis: cd ;)
[04:37] <Okita> nickrud: Doesn't grub need a config file of some kind?
[04:38] <crysalis> lol
[04:38] <ecormier> <crysalis: I use "mc"
[04:38] <Okita> nickrud: Ahh, I've my old partition back... Now I can go into the /boot directory and use the menu.lst that's there?
[04:38] <intelikey> Flannel i'm not so big ???
[04:39] <Flannel> intelikey: well, you're bigger than I am, and bigger than altereg0, although I am larger than altereg0, apparently.
[04:39] <leboff> i'm pretty sure banshee is incredible
[04:39] <jbarrett> Anybody willing to help with a weird networking problem I've been having?  Since dist-upgrading to dapper eth0 comes up for about 30 seconds and seems to be fully functional.  Then it just gets disconnected.
[04:39] <Flannel> jbarrett: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[04:39] <intelikey> Flannel well you have me chuckeling, and curious.   what are you on about ?
[04:39] <jbarrett> Flannel, Oh,  alright thanks.  Sorry
[04:40] <Flannel> intelikey: ecormier> altereg0 <Flannel <intelikey : thanks
[04:40] <intelikey> oh
[04:40] <intelikey> ha ha
[04:40] <crysalis> okay...im trying to navigate to my home folder using terminal...where would i start? i've cd home...but aparantly im skipping some parent folders because it's returning with "No such file or directory"
[04:40] <sol> where is $HOME/.dmrc?
[04:40] <sol> it has a permission problem
[04:40] <Flannel> sol: home is ~/
[04:40] <Subhuman> crysalis,  type "cd ~" to get home
[04:40] <Kyral> sol: thats harmless
[04:40] <unkn0wn2u> crysalis, home is also just cd
[04:40] <ecormier> Flannel: just me getting sloppy with cut/paste
[04:40] <Subhuman> your home is located at /home/username
[04:40] <intelikey> Flannel home is also $HOME
[04:40] <Flannel> crysalis: cd ~ or cd /home/username to go to your home place.
[04:41] <sol> how do i change .drmc  's permission i cant find it in home
[04:41] <nickrud> Okita, if it's properly made, and referenced propery by update-grub & grub-install, of course :)
[04:41] <Flannel> intelikey: right, but ~ is shorter and easier than $HOME ;)
[04:41] <Flannel> sol: things with a period to start, are hidden.  ls -a to see it
[04:41] <intelikey> Flannel cd    is shorter still and it defalts to  cd $HOME
[04:41] <sol> oh  aaaaaaaaaaah
[04:41] <Okita> nickrud: Well, the one from my previously working Kubuntu partition should be good =)
[04:41] <sol> thx flannel
[04:41] <altereg0> Flannel, just "cd" will get youhome,and is even shorter
[04:41] <ecormier> intelikey: nice...thanks
[04:42] <Flannel> altereg0: will it? how ... interesting.
[04:42] <nickrud> Okita, check it carefully.
[04:42] <altereg0> Flannel, just type cd
[04:42] <Okita> nickrud: Whoops, now I have two bootloaders
[04:42] <drew> never talk to drunk middle school cheerleaders
[04:42] <nickrud> heh.
[04:42] <drew> they get annoying
[04:42] <sol> cool i put show hidden files
[04:42] <Okita> nickrud: The pretty Kubuntu one and the plain grub one
[04:42] <altereg0> Flannel, and   cd -  will take you to the previous directory
[04:42] <Okita> I may have been overzealous in installing things everywhere
[04:43] <SurfnKid> can i change directory permissions with chmod?
[04:43] <nickrud> Okita, I try to know as little about grub as needed.
[04:43] <altereg0> SurfnKid, yes
[04:43] <intelikey> _
[04:43] <altereg0> SurfnKid, man chmod ;-)
[04:43] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[04:43] <drew> so guys
[04:43] <crysalis> okay so im currently located in "/home/crysalis" now i try to navigate to my desktop folder using  "cd desktop" and its not working...am i doing something wrong?
[04:43] <ecormier> SurfnKid: you can also right click in nautilus and properties
[04:43] <SurfnKid> altereg i need that
[04:43] <drew> cant wait for that ubuntu release
[04:43] <Okita> nickrud, Knowing how to use grub is like knowing where your fire extinguisher is... Usually doesn't seem like useful knowledge until you need it
[04:44] <nosklo> crysalis, it is case sensitive
[04:44] <ecormier> crysalis: capital D
[04:44] <nosklo> crysalis, try cd Desktop
[04:44] <altereg0> SurfnKid, I was kidding, but man pages are a good idea ;-)
[04:44] <SurfnKid> ecormier theyre greyed out so what can i do
[04:44] <SurfnKid> ah
[04:44] <ecormier> try sudo nautilus
[04:44] <crysalis> aahh...i see i see...case sensitive...
[04:44] <SurfnKid> im gonna get ya
[04:44] <drew> yo can somebody help me I want to customize grub
[04:44] <SurfnKid> ok
[04:44] <crysalis> its just worked....
[04:45] <SurfnKid> that worked thanks again
[04:45] <ecormier> SurfnKid: be careful with that though...you should close it after doing what you need
[04:45] <intelikey> SurfnKid if you don't know about man pages    you owe it to your self to read   man intro && man man
[04:45] <drew> I want to put up a picture so when grub loads it wont be jus a black screen
[04:45] <audisam> is there tutorial of how to setup apache ??
[04:45] <Flannel> ecormier: no, gksudo nautilus.
[04:45] <SurfnKid> ecormier i was just about to ask, it gives you pretty much full rights to all the folders/
[04:45] <altereg0> rats, I keep missing the space bar
[04:46] <Ophiocus> drew, look in /boot/grub/menu.lst there you will find the all the givens youd like to tune up
[04:46] <SurfnKid> I just need to add a file to the apache2 folder
[04:46] <ecormier> right...and thanks for that flannel
[04:46] <drew> k thx
[04:46] <intelikey> !tell audisam about lisp
[04:46] <Ophiocus> ah
[04:46] <intelikey> !tell audisam about lamp
[04:46] <SurfnKid> intelikey ok ill check man pages
[04:46] <nickrud> Okita, I bring out lilo when I need the fire extinguisher :)
[04:46] <Flannel> lisp, eh? heh.
[04:46] <Ophiocus> a splash screen
[04:46] <drew> i just started 2 days ago so If i need help ill come back
[04:46] <nosklo> audisam, you can setup apache to do a lot of things
[04:46] <nosklo> audisam, there are many tutoprials
[04:46] <Ophiocus> donno if thats doable with grub?
[04:46] <nosklo> audisam, *tutorials
[04:46] <intelikey> SurfnKid just open a terminal and paste this       man intro && man man
[04:47] <SurfnKid> too late i already did
[04:47] <SurfnKid> =D
[04:47] <jorvis_> when I search on packages.ubuntu.com and find a package I want to install, I just get "couldn't find package X".   I've added universe and multiverse in the synaptic package manager, what else do I need to do?
[04:47] <drew> where can I put a picture in the menu file
[04:47] <intelikey> Flannel i typo,   makes coding interesting.  no?
[04:48] <btrento> could someone help me with a mounting question
[04:48] <bimberi> jorvis_: what's the package
[04:48] <pppoe_dude> hi is there an easy one-liner command to send a document to a printer on the network? it is not shared or anything, just running on cups
[04:48] <bimberi> ?
[04:48] <ecormier> btrento: ask it
[04:48] <jorvis_> bimberi: flashplugin-nonfree
[04:48] <altereg0> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[04:48] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5ubuntu0.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[04:48] <jorvis_> pppoe_dude: lpr -P some_cups_printer_queue
[04:48] <audisam> Look I  just got a server at home and I am trying to setup a basic webserever  on UBUNTU to host  FORUMS and  WEBSITES.   Besides the  Apache + sql what do I need  to conver my IP to DOMAINNAME
[04:48] <altereg0> jorvis_, did you update/reload ?
[04:48] <bimberi> jorvis_: what's your architecture? i386?
[04:48] <nickrud> jorvis_, if you can find it in packages.ubuntu.com, but not in synaptic: you have made an error adding universe & mulitverse. If you'd put /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ we can vet them for you
[04:49] <jorvis_> bimberi: amd64
[04:49] <altereg0> ah
[04:49] <jaime> hello
[04:49] <pppoe_dude> jorvis_: so like, lpr -P [ip_address] :631 <filename>?
[04:49] <ctothej> when I try to install, it keeps freezing on loading /install/initrd.gz . suggestions?
[04:49] <jorvis_> nickrud: that's true, I can't find it in synaptic
[04:49] <crysalis> is there a folder within this file system that acts like "Program Files" folder in windows or "Applications" folder in Mac?
[04:49] <jaime> can anybody help me
[04:49] <btrento> ok i recently installed ubuntu, but previously had fedora is there anyway to format and use the fedora partion as a data partition
[04:49] <altereg0> jorvis_, I don't think flash is available for amd64
[04:49] <nickrud> jorvis_, flash is not available in amd64 if I've been following correctly
[04:50] <ecormier> <crysalis: /usr/bin ??
[04:50] <leboff> theres a good howto on the wiki to get flash workin on amd64
[04:50] <leboff> works great
[04:50] <jorvis_> nickrud: ah.  ok.  so how do I properly enable universe and multiverse?
[04:50] <jaime> i need  to know how to install a program in ubuntu
[04:50] <drew> can somebody help me
[04:50] <leboff> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[04:50] <Flannel> !tell jorvis_ about repositories
[04:50] <jorvis_> drew: just ask
[04:50] <bimberi> jorvis_: sry, got distracted, but the others have it :/
[04:50] <nickrud> jorvis_, are you on amd64?
[04:50] <jorvis_> nickrud: yes
[04:50] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[04:50] <leboff> jorvus_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[04:50] <jorvis_> i see that i can't do flash on amd64, but I just meant for other stuff too
[04:50] <drew> I need help putting up a picture as a background in grub I have the menu.lst file open right now
[04:51] <jaime> hi lord athur
[04:51] <jorvis_> leboff: thanks
[04:51] <leboff> np
[04:51] <altereg0> jorvis_, leboff just pointed you in the right direction
[04:51] <paul_> Im having sound problems in ubuntu after install of mplayer. Now no sound on anything. Can someone help?
[04:51] <altereg0> :)
[04:51] <jorvis_> k, the telling me about repositories script didn't work
[04:51] <bimberi> leboff: nice one :)
[04:51] <altereg0> !repos
[04:51] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:51] <jorvis_> oh, private msg ... isee
[04:51] <cam> intelikey, ok, sda5 is not my / partition, using this line : kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.16.18 root=/dev/sda1 ro is working ... root partition is mounted but I got an error : Warning: enable to  open an initial console | kernel panic : not syncing :: no init found; try passing init= option to kernel. i tried to do this : mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.16.18 2.6.16.18 but here is the output : /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-swap_1: Kernel does not suppor
[04:51] <cam> t LVM ; i am running 2.6.12-10-386 default kernel ... any ideas ?
[04:51] <nickrud> jorvis_, then you cannot get flash from the repos, period. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats , look for flash for some pointers. Blame macromedia, not ubuntu
[04:51] <SurfnKid> cool I got the apache2 thing going
[04:52] <SurfnKid> I just needed to copy my index.html to redirect to my company's site
[04:52] <SurfnKid> so now its working
[04:52] <SurfnKid> god im starting to like linux more and more and more
[04:52] <ecormier> SurfnKid: addictive is the word
[04:52] <SurfnKid> thank you whoever made ubuntu a breezy install
[04:53] <SurfnKid> i was suffering from frustrations under windows, and a bit reluctant to admit it
[04:53] <nickrud> leboff, you've used that page yourself? I'd not mind having an alternative to what I just said
[04:53] <bzaks> can any one guide me to a good tut on installing apache 2.2 ?
[04:53] <altereg0> !lamp
[04:53] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:53] <leboff> i currently use that setup
[04:54] <bzaks> thanks ubotu
[04:54] <Flannel> altereg0, no 2.2 isn't in repos
[04:54] <ctothej> why would my system freeze when loading /install/initrd.gz before an install?
[04:54] <bzaks> even if you're a bot
[04:54] <cfh_dev> What's a good dvd player for kde or how can I get mplayer to show the startup menus of a dvd?
[04:54] <altereg0> Flannel, ah I see
[04:54] <Flannel> bzaks: 2.2 isn't in repos
[04:54] <altereg0> Flannel, don't know then
[04:54] <shadymike> How do I turn the PC speaker beeping off when I use the terminal?
[04:54] <nickrud> leboff, on your head then, I'll point amd people at it :)
[04:54] <intelikey> cam from what you posted about fdisk -l  i'd say if sda1 is /  and not /boot   then you have major initrd/initramfs issues.
[04:54] <bimberi> ubotu flash64 is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[04:54] <ubotu> okay, bimberi
[04:54] <drew> ...
[04:54] <altereg0> shadymike,  xset b off
[04:55] <jorvis_> nickrud: thanks, i'm following the links.  and I don't blame ubuntu ... I understand licensing issues.
[04:55] <leboff> nickrud: ok, just letting you know, yesterday sound worked with flash, today it doesnt... but everything else works great
[04:55] <shadymike> altereg0: thanks
[04:55] <SurfnKid> so if i have ubuntu 5.10 now would it take a lot of changing files to upgrade to the newest 6.xx?
[04:55] <nickrud> leboff, that's just flash :)
[04:55] <btrento> does anyone know how to format a partiton in linux
[04:55] <altereg0> shadymike,  yw :)
[04:55] <bzaks> surfnKid
[04:56] <bzaks> I'd like to be able to do that too
[04:56] <xnull> how can I downgrade my ati drivers?
[04:56] <altereg0> !upgrade
[04:56] <bzaks> if you know how! let me know!
[04:56] <Subhuman> xnull,
[04:56] <bzaks> why not?
[04:56] <protocol1> SurfnKid, if you have a nice fast broadband connection...it should'nt be a problem to upgrade
[04:56] <xnull> Subhuman : yea..
[04:56] <cam> intelikey, yeah, I just used the default partition scheme when i installed ubuntu. one / on sda1 and one swap ... what can I do to solve this initrd pblm ?
[04:56] <nickrud> btrento, how do you mean? create a partition, or format a linux partition for a file type?
[04:56] <bzaks> how do we do that protocol1?
[04:56] <altereg0> !tell SurfnKid about upgrade
[04:56] <leboff> just saw this: #
[04:56] <leboff> sound is an issue under KDE (Kubuntu) as well. The arts daemon (if running) must be suspended in order for Flash to be able to emit sound.
[04:56] <leboff> #
[04:56] <Subhuman> xnull,  "sudo apt-get install packagename=versionnumber
[04:56] <leboff> i'll try it out
[04:56] <Subhuman> no sorry
[04:56] <Subhuman> xnull, ill get back to you, 10 secs
[04:57] <xnull> Subhuman : how do I search for a older version?
[04:57] <bzaks> !tell bzaks about upgrade
[04:57] <humbolt> dapper will be released in 2 days. any body know already how XEN support is coming along? Will there be a nice interface or will we have just the bare minimum?
[04:57] <majd> hey
[04:57] <protocol1> on official release day (recommended) try this out "sudo update-manager -d"
[04:57] <protocol1> bzaks, that will give you an option to upgrade to dapper
[04:58] <majd> where do icons go when you install a program? i can't find the azureus icon in usr/share/app-install/icons/
[04:58] <bzaks> sweet
[04:58] <altereg0> protocol1, or doit nowand avoid the rush ;-)
[04:58] <altereg0> bah " do it now"
[04:58] <intelikey> cam "...root partition is mounted but I got an error : Warning: enable to open an initial console | kernel panic...."  <--- that should not happen if the correct fs is mounted as /   that will happen if you mount something like /boot/  on /      the output of fdisk -l  you posted says if sda5 is swap  you have a swap partition 100 times the size of your root partition.
[04:58] <protocol1> yeah......you can
[04:58] <Subhuman> xnull, yes, like this: "sudo apt-get install libxss1=1:1.0.1-0ubuntu3" if you wanted to install libxss1 version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu3
[04:58] <xnull> Subhuman : i need to downgrade xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:58] <protocol1> I did mine a week an a half ago
[04:58] <bzaks> can anyone tell me how to get apache 2.2 installed?
[04:58] <Subhuman> ahh, it sounds like the new ati driver sucks.
[04:58] <Flannel> bzaks: you'll need to compile it yourself, unless they release a deb
[04:58] <Subhuman> well i dunno howd u'd find the old version
[04:59] <altereg0> bzaks, you might have to compile it I think
[04:59] <xnull> Subhuman : xorg-driver-fglrx                      7.0.0-8.25.18+2.6.15.11-1            Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators what I have now.. i need a bit older..
[04:59] <anthosity> hagimemashite
[04:59] <nickrud> majd, you can look for icons in a package by using the dpkg tool: dpkg -L azureus | grep png (that looks at all the files in the azureus package, and searches for the png files)
[04:59] <cam> intelikey, where can i paste the output of df -h ?  #flood ?
[04:59] <bzaks> okay.... I'm not going to lie... (complete n00b) how do I know what directory to compile it in?
[04:59] <Subhuman> xnull,  i have no idea how to look for old versions sorry.
[05:00] <altereg0> bzaks, any dir will do - your home dir is fine
[05:00] <bzaks> oh okay
[05:00] <jorvis_>  bzaks: compile it wherever you like.  if you want to install it someplace use the prefix option when configuring
[05:00] <intelikey> cam can you boot a live cd and mount sda1  and sda5  and see what is on them    / should have the /root and /etc dirs in it.
[05:00] <xnull> Subhuman : ok thanks..
[05:00] <bzaks> ... or dear God... all this config stuff is scary
[05:00] <bzaks> sorry....
[05:00] <intelikey> !rell cam about paste
[05:00] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[05:00] <cam> /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root
[05:00] <cam>  35G  2.7G   31G   9% /
[05:00] <jorvis_> bzaks: check the README, you really only do three commands: ./configure, make, make install
[05:00] <TrendKi||> good evening dudes
[05:00] <altereg0> bzaks, I suggest installing checkinstall to make a deb
[05:00] <bzaks> this is nothing like windows
[05:00] <Subhuman> bzaks, youll need to have the "build-essential" packahe to compile too
[05:00] <intelikey> !tell cam about paste
[05:00] <xnull> anybody could tell me how can I downgrade my Ati driver?
[05:00] <bzaks> what's a deb?
[05:00] <xnull> !downgrade
[05:00] <ubotu> xnull: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:00] <xnull> :P
[05:01] <altereg0> bzaks, very observant remark ;)
[05:01] <Flannel> bzaks: its the format ubuntu uses to install things.
[05:01] <Subhuman> xnull, i told you HOW
[05:01] <Subhuman> you just nee dto find the old version number
[05:01] <bzaks> oooh okay
[05:01] <Subhuman> !deb
[05:01] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[05:01] <xnull> Subhuman: sorry to search for a older version..
[05:01] <altereg0> bzaks, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[05:01] <TrendKi||> how is xen support looking in dapper?
[05:02] <bzaks> OMG they have this? I searched for tutorials... and I was having problems left and right... google is pissing me off
[05:02] <nickrud> ubotu downgrade is downgrading packages is not defined in the deb package management system.
[05:02] <ubotu> nickrud: okay
[05:02] <intelikey> cam you are running the live cd now ?
[05:02] <Flannel> bzaks: have what?
[05:02] <bzaks> the user docs
[05:03] <cam> intelikey, nope, I dont have it .. it's at home ...I'm at work
[05:03] <altereg0> bzaks, if in doubt, type http://wiki.ubuntu.com/YourKeyword  and see if anyone has written a howto or whatever
[05:03] <bzaks> okay
[05:03] <protocol1> bzacks, its nothing like windows for a good reason.....lol
[05:03] <bzaks> that's awesome
[05:03] <bzaks> you're right, I believe you... it's hard to switch after 10+ years on windows
[05:03] <altereg0> bzaks, also see  http://help.ubuntu.com
[05:03] <intelikey> cam then how can you df  that box ?
[05:03] <intelikey> if kernel panics ?
[05:03] <protocol1> yeah....I been using ubuntu since january....and I love it
[05:04] <protocol1> and this dapper version is killer
[05:04] <cam> intelikey, kernel panic with the kernel i just built ... but the default one (from ubuntu cd) is working
[05:04] <bzaks> is it really safe to use dapper if it's not "ready"?
[05:04] <PyroMithrandir> bzaks, it's safe
[05:04] <Ophiocus> bzaks: it will take you a good month to learn to use ubuntu in ways that are simply not feasible (both economically and or technically) in windows
[05:04] <cam> intelikey,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14884
[05:04] <altereg0> bzaks, it is safe
[05:04] <bzaks> okay
[05:04] <argpirate> dapper works very well for me
[05:04] <altereg0> bzaks, releaseis in two days
[05:04] <protocol1> I turned this old dell into a nice multimedia machine with dapper.....its sweet
[05:04] <nickrud> yes. I do like dapper. About time I installed a recent unstable to compare. (as if I had the time)
[05:04] <intelikey> ah ok.  then the only issue you are having is the initrd cam
[05:05] <defrysk> bzaks, its unsafe ;p
[05:05] <PyroMithrandir> bzaks, I've been using it for 2 months, and it was a bit buggy back then but it's been really stable
[05:05] <argpirate> only thing ubuntu is missing is a good control panal like feture
[05:05] <altereg0> ;)
[05:05] <bzaks> okay
[05:05] <Flannel> argpirate: to configure what?
[05:05] <nickrud> oh, defrysk you are just 24 hours from being out of date
[05:05] <altereg0> argpirate, type gnome-control-center  IIRC
[05:05] <nickrud> bzaks, wait one day. Thats all
[05:05] <TrendKi||> argpirate, whats wrong with the System->Administration menu?
[05:05] <defrysk> nickrud, out of date ?
[05:06] <argpirate> more of a mandriva style cc would be nice
[05:06] <protocol1> and on this laptop I have a dual boot option which is nice
[05:06] <argpirate> its alright
[05:06] <argpirate> its missing some key fetures though
[05:06] <nickrud> defrysk,  its unsafe ;p
[05:06] <defrysk> ah
[05:06] <drew> I guess I wont get helped
[05:06] <nickrud> :)
[05:06] <altereg0> argpirate, such as ?
[05:06] <argpirate> like a NFS config tool
[05:06] <argpirate> or SMB for that matter
[05:06] <Flannel> altereg0: I think system > preferences/administration would be more approriate
[05:06] <protocol1> I havent really thought about converting completely because I wont be able to play some windows games Im stuck on
[05:06] <nickrud> drew, ask again, we're scrolling fast
[05:06] <intelikey> cam ok so sda5 is large stroage area ?
[05:06] <cam> intelikey, i think so, but i have a pblm when doing the mkinitrd command ... I updated the paste, I added a section of my meny.lst ... right now i'm booting from /vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root ro quiet splash
[05:06] <altereg0> Flannel, sure - just telling himthe control centerexists
[05:07] <drew> how can I put a background image for frub Im a newb so it might take awhile but plz help
[05:07] <Ophiocus> protocol1: use linux for computing, and get a console ;)
[05:07] <Flannel> altereg0: right, but that's more of tweaks, windows CP is more of devices/etc.  Which is exactly like the system menu
[05:07] <nickrud> drew, a background for grub you mean?
[05:07] <altereg0> Flannel, I defer ;-)
[05:07] <drew> yes
[05:07] <TrendKi||> argpirate, system->administration->shared folders
[05:07] <cam> intelikey, seems to be ... sda1 is /boot , sda5 is / (large store area)
[05:07] <intelikey> cam yes.  and the new kernel is a roll your own ?
[05:07] <cam> intelikey, yeah i built it myself
[05:07] <Ophiocus> with the windows license fee alone you can get yourself a nice x360, ironically from MS :D
[05:08] <argpirate> yeah i mean it has something, its just not really complete
[05:08] <Flannel> argpirate: what is it missing?
[05:08] <altereg0> argpirate, file a wishlist bug on launchpad ;)
[05:09] <argpirate> well it allows you to add folders but does not have something to scan a network
[05:09] <nickrud> drew, ok. To tell you the truth, that is very low on most peoples horizons. Booting only happens about once a week for most ubuntu users, and we only see it for a few seconds. To put it bluntly, we don't really care what the grub boot screen looks like as long as it works
[05:09] <xnull> how do I search with apt a older version of a driver?  (xorg-drivers-fglrx) ..?
[05:09] <argpirate> and set mount points for other folders on your network
[05:09] <igor_> oi
[05:09] <Beforewisdom> Hi.  I'm new to the online music thing.  Are there legal music services for linux that feature main stream muscians?
[05:09] <igor_> alguma garota aqui
[05:09] <igor_> ?
[05:09] <argpirate> i can do it manually, just something i miss from mandriva
[05:09] <drew> well nuckrud i boot up every 5 hours(laptop dont want it to burn out)
[05:09] <altereg0> Beforewisdom, magnatunes is nice
[05:09] <defrysk> mis something from mandriva ?????
[05:10] <defrysk> omg
[05:10] <argpirate> heh
[05:10] <argpirate> mandriva is good
[05:10] <argpirate> nothing wrong with it
[05:10] <Beforewisdom> altereg0 thanks! I thought I was SOL
[05:10] <defrysk> argpirate, omg
[05:10] <intelikey> cam i'm not much on building things.... there are plenty of ready mades.   someone in #gentoo might help you trubble shoot the kernel build   idk.    but if the modules are all built correctly and the initrd/initramfs is propperly built the kernel should not panic like that.
[05:10] <nickrud> drew, then maybe you could look it up and write a wiki page ?
[05:10] <argpirate> what would be wrong with it?
[05:10] <TrendKi||> argpirate, RPMs
[05:10] <igor_> alguma gostosa
[05:10] <drew> yea like that would happen
[05:10] <argpirate> whats wrong with rpms?
[05:10] <igor_> ?
[05:10] <protocol1> Ophiocus, the day I get a PS3 I will think about it
[05:10] <argpirate> exactly
[05:10] <altereg0> Beforewisdom, magnatunes has the motto "We are not evil" :)
[05:10] <defrysk> argpirate, omg
[05:10] <Flannel> argpirate: seriously, file for it at launchpad.  If you think it would make peoples experiences better, I'm sure others will agree.
[05:10] <defrysk> poor you
[05:10] <protocol1> ;)
[05:10] <drew> another question I want to be able to use bot .deb and .rpm in ubuntu how can this be done
[05:11] <Beforewisdom> altereg0....everyone thinks they are not evil
[05:11] <defrysk> drew, dont
[05:11] <nickrud> argpirate, there's not a darn thing wrong with rpms, except that ubuntu uses debs
[05:11] <drew> why?
[05:11] <argpirate> i know that
[05:11] <intelikey> cam may i ask why you are building kernels ?
[05:11] <altereg0> :))
[05:11] <TrendKi||> argpirate, i dont want to start a flame war...ive just had nightmares with RPMs...
[05:11] <argpirate> defrysk, seems to disagree
[05:11] <argpirate> ah
[05:11] <nickrud> drew, a design decision. Nothing more
[05:11] <MrProper__> with /etc/aliases for postfix can you somehow specify an include for another file with a list of aliases?
[05:11] <intelikey> cam i only ask because there might be an easier way...
[05:11] <paul_> is there a room for sound issues in ubuntu?
[05:11] <drew> because I see alot more .rpm's than I see .deb
[05:11] <argpirate> well i used to also, but as far as i can tell, if you have a good package manager it doesnt matter what format your binaries are in
[05:11] <nickrud> rpms with the proper front end are no worse than debs.
[05:12] <drew> yea paul Ive been having sound issues to
[05:12] <TrendKi||> argpirate, although, doesnt madriva use a modified version of RPM?
[05:12] <cam> intelikey, i see; because I prefer to go on a monolithic kernel insead of loading modules ...
[05:12] <petrik> Is there any programs to deal with file sharing between two ubuntu boxes. I have wasted so much time on this and still can not get it to go.
[05:12] <paul_> Mine worked fine until I installed mplayer. Then all sound stopped
[05:12] <argpirate> not as far as i know
[05:12] <cam> intelikey, the easiest way should be to install the .deb kernel image right ?
[05:13] <argpirate> but you cant really use rpms from other distros
[05:13] <Flannel> petrik: tons.  samba will work.
[05:13] <drew> I installed some coecs for mp3 now all of a sudden my volume sux
[05:13] <altereg0> petrik,  NFS, scp, sftp, fish (with konqueror) samba ....
[05:13] <bzaks> you know... I will have to say, I've been in about 3000000000000 forums and chat rooms before
[05:13] <argpirate> i mean you could try and hope
[05:13] <CronoDekar> shouldn't even need samba, should you?
[05:13] <bzaks> but none have been as helpful as you guys
[05:13] <intelikey> cam hmmm yeah... me to   but that tells me that you hosed the build.     monolithic means no need for the initrd....
[05:13] <bzaks> thanks a biillion!
[05:13] <TrendKi||> argpirate, ok...well anyways  im sure mandriva is good anyways...
[05:13] <argpirate> heh, well im an ubuntu user not in any case
[05:13] <gnu2it2> what would be the minimal i could install to export X display from a headless server? xauth, icewm???
[05:13] <intelikey> cam right.
[05:13] <Beforewisdom> bytheway, thanks for the help
[05:13] <Beforewisdom> bye
[05:13] <argpirate> not = now
[05:13] <Beforewisdom> thanks for the help
[05:14] <argpirate> i really thinnk the only place mandriva has one up is the MCC
[05:14] <paul_> oh well will try again tomorrow.
[05:14] <TrendKi||> argpirate, same here
[05:14] <xnull> ( how do i search for a older fglrx version)
[05:14] <petrik> Have NFS but can not seem to get it to work
[05:14] <dmbt> was it anyone in here that requested a deb for googles version of wine?
[05:14] <petrik> I can not see the one PC on the other
[05:14] <Linuturk_NB> I'm installing 6.06 on a old desktop at home. I need a PCI wireless card that works seemlessly for our wireless network
[05:14] <intelikey> cam easy way    apt-cache search linux-image   ; sudo apt-get install <you choice from the list search gave>
[05:15] <audisam> Hi there" HELP NEEDED "  I get an error when i try to add privileges to an USER http://pastebin.com/748361
[05:15] <audisam> can somebody give me an example
[05:15] <argpirate> Linuturk_NB, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?action=show&redirect=WirelessNetworkCards
[05:15] <cam> intelikey, oki ... well I just found something, according to df -h sda1 is the /boot and sda5 the / ; menu.lst  contains :
[05:15] <cam> kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.16.18 root=/dev/sda1 ro ; this line is bad ...  root=/dev/sda5 and not sda1 !
[05:15] <Flannel> audisam: example of what?
[05:15] <altereg0> petrik, http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/
[05:15] <TrendKi||> Linuturk_NB, ive got a linksys wmp54g running with ndiswrapper without a glitch...
[05:16] <drew> anybody know how I can crack my router becuase my dad just bought a comfort inn and we have a linksys hub 3 switches a mototrola surfboard and a computer hooked up to the hotels server
[05:16] <drew> and I want to be able to use dns
[05:16] <drew> but it needs the password
[05:16] <drew> and usrname
[05:16] <argpirate> anything that ndiswrapper supports, and you have windows drivers for should work almost out of the box
[05:16] <dmbt> drew: you could also use an external dns server
[05:16] <audisam> how to  give privileges to user on mysql
[05:16] <drew> and my dad wouldn know it
[05:16] <dmbt> anyway, gtg
[05:16] <drew> my dns is on the web
[05:16] <segfu> anyone know what package to install to get java api docs?
[05:16] <Linuturk_NB> TrendKi||, any that work "out of the box"
[05:16] <xnull> ( how do i search for a older fglrx version)
[05:16] <drew> but when I type it into my url it ask for a usr name and password
[05:17] <audisam> i get sintax error on this  :    mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'yourusername'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpassword' WITH GRANT OPTION;
[05:17] <argpirate> Linuturk_NB, check that site i gave you
[05:17] <altereg0> xnull, please stop repeating
[05:17] <intelikey> cam yes, well not to say 'i told ya so' but .....
[05:17] <argpirate> it lists many cards and if they work out of the box, with additional sources, or not at all
[05:17] <petrik> altereg0, Thanks I passed by that page earlier. Must have missed something
[05:17] <nickrud> drew, if you have physical access (depending on the router) there should be a recessed button you can press to reset to defaults
[05:17] <cam> intelikey, lol my bad ; sorry about that
[05:17] <Flannel> audisam: you might have better luck with an SQL channel.
[05:17] <TrendKi||> Linuturk_NB, anything with an atheros chipset should be ok
[05:17] <xnull> altereg0 grr  sorry but i really need a answer ..
[05:17] <drew> yea but my parents wont let me in that room to touch it
[05:17] <audisam> Thank you :)
[05:17] <intelikey> np
[05:17] <chevolec> hi there
[05:17] <audisam> i will
[05:18] <chevolec> i got a question... i use gnome-terminal is there a way that gterm shows "user@server:bins$" instead "user@server:~/downloads/bins$"??
[05:18] <drew> its in a room downstairs
[05:18] <altereg0> petrik, there's an NFS wiki page too IIRC
[05:18] <altereg0> 1nfs
[05:18] <nickrud> drew, heh.
[05:18] <altereg0> !nfs
[05:18] <ubotu> nfs is, like, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:18] <drew> and my parents dont want me to mess up the other peeps internet
[05:18] <Flannel> audisam: if I remember correctly, you don't need PRIVELEDGES, just GRANT ALL
[05:18] <drew> it is a franchise hotel
[05:18] <cam> intelikey, ok .. i'm gonna reboot and see what's going on ;) cya soon I hope on the the kernel :p
[05:18] <drew> its a comfort inn
[05:18] <intelikey> cam k  luck
[05:18] <drew> if it was so crappy hotel 6 I would have already done it
[05:18] <nickrud> I like those, I've stayed there more than once.
[05:19] <drew> like wha
[05:19] <nickrud> so cal
[05:19] <drew> lol
[05:19] <drew> well it is a comfort inn
[05:19] <argpirate> Flannel, turns out they have a bounty out for a control center in launch pad
[05:19] <argpirate> looks like they are trying to port yast from suse over
[05:19] <drew> at the front desk it has the logo then underneath it says comfort inn by choice hotels
[05:20] <petrik> altereg0, I had samba working when the other PC was still windoze but now that both are ubuntu I'm not getting anywhere. Deleted samba in the hope that NFS would do the job
[05:20] <TrendKi||> i just hope they imporove on yast's speed
[05:20] <altereg0> ;)
[05:20] <nickrud> blinks
[05:20] <lila> how can I change the size of the image in mplayer?
[05:20] <drew> http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g56085-d106071-Reviews-Comfort_Inn-Kingsville_Texas.html  you can see a picture of the hotel there
[05:21] <argpirate> man yast is pretty quick except the package manager
[05:21] <argpirate> but god, that package manager is broken or something
[05:21] <altereg0> petrik, all I can suggest is reading the wiki pages and the howto - once set up, NFS works well
[05:21] <TrendKi||> argpirate, exactly...
[05:21] <defrysk> yast ? ARGHH!!!
[05:21] <altereg0> petrik, I use it here
[05:21] <argpirate> i would assume the wouldnt really use that part to much anyways
[05:21] <TrendKi||> yast's package manager is so slow...
[05:21] <argpirate> maybe just use apt-get for most of it
[05:21] <argpirate> yeah its broken
[05:22] <argpirate> the rest of it runs pretty well though
[05:22] <ajax4> Hey everyone
[05:22] <argpirate> thats actually why i took suse10.1 off this box though
[05:22] <argpirate> the package manager was just to slow, and clunky
[05:22] <argpirate> wierd to add sources to
[05:22] <TrendKi||> i was too agravated by the package manager...i took suse 10.1 off too
[05:22] <argpirate> no straight command line tools
[05:22] <intelikey> while deborphan | grep [A-z]  >/dev/null 2>&1
[05:22] <intelikey>     do $SU apt-get --purge remove `deborphan`
[05:22] <intelikey> done
[05:23] <|Sivik|> which repo do i need to add to get the flashplugin-nonfree
[05:23] <intelikey> oooops bumped the mouse.
[05:23] <defrysk> !flashplugin-nonfree
[05:23] <ubotu> defrysk: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:23] <altereg0> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[05:23] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[05:23] <ajax4> Anyone have an opinion on which is better: automatix or easyubuntu?
[05:23] <defrysk> ah
[05:23] <drew> so anybody know how I can over ride the user login on the router
[05:23] <defrysk> ajax4, equally bad
[05:23] <altereg0> ajax4, !automatix
[05:23] <ajax4> !automatix
[05:23] <altereg0> bah
[05:23] <lila> doesn't anyone use mplayer?
[05:23] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[05:24] <defrysk> ajax4, dont use that stuf
[05:24] <TrendKi||> lila, whats the exact problem?
[05:24] <altereg0> ajax4, easyubuntu is at least trying to be safe
[05:24] <Flannel> ajax4: easyubuntu
[05:24] <Some_Person> Hey! I'm finally on the internet with ubuntu!
[05:24] <intelikey> ajax4 the writer of that info node has an opeion
[05:24] <ajax4> So is the consensus that if you have to use one or the other, use Easyubuntu?
[05:24] <DarkTower> Some_Person: Rocks hey!
[05:24] <semq> hi there I'm a noob and I need help !
[05:24] <Some_Person> Yep
[05:24] <altereg0> ajax4, yes
[05:24] <argpirate> lila, i use mplayer
[05:24] <lila> TrendKi: the image is too small and I want to enlarge it. the manpage says that I could type option+2 but I don't know what is "option"
[05:24] <Lord_Athur> I'll go the bed :P
[05:25] <DarkTower> Some_Person: Rips windows
[05:25] <altereg0> ajax4, you learn more by following the RstrictedFormats wiki
[05:25] <Flannel> semq: until you ask a question, we can't answer it.
[05:25] <altereg0> !restricted
[05:25] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:25] <Some_Person> I'm using Linuxant (I found a keygen on the internet) as a modem driver, and wvdial to connect
[05:25] <TrendKi||> lila, are you going into fullscreen and the image is just a small image in the middle of yopur screen surrounded by black?
[05:25] <semq> ty flannel
[05:26] <drew> gosh I need to hack the router so I can use my dns o I can host stuff on it
[05:26] <drew> and p2p
[05:26] <semq> well i have problems with server X
[05:26] <ajax4> altereg0: well, the thing is I'm an experienced Linux user who is moving to Ubuntu on June 1...but I have a friend who has no experience with Linux.
[05:26] <lila> TrendKi: exactly
[05:26] <semq> missing output drivers
[05:26] <semq> when i try X -configure
[05:26] <DarkTower> Is it legal or possible to just copy my windows fonts from xp into my .fonts directory?
[05:26] <drew> nope
[05:26] <drew> but how cares dark do it anywayz
[05:26] <spikeb> it's possible to do it, yes.
[05:26] <TrendKi||> lila, r u using mplayer with the gui?
[05:26] <spikeb> it probably violates the EULA though
[05:26] <drew> why would they sue u for using their fonts
[05:26] <argpirate> the legality might be questionable though
[05:26] <defrysk> !msfonts
[05:26] <ubotu> well, msfonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[05:27] <lila> TrendKi: no gui, how can I use the gui? perhaps that would make it easier
[05:27] <intelikey> semq  to reconfigure X   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:27] <semq> ty ill try
[05:27] <DarkTower> ubotu: Thanbks i did that, it only really has a couple of fonts like Times, a very small collection
[05:27] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, DarkTower
[05:27] <Some_Person> Ubuntu ROX
[05:27] <TrendKi||> lila, try gmplayer instead of mplayer
[05:27] <intelikey> !bot
[05:27] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[05:27] <defrysk> dark, ubotu is a bot
[05:27] <DrBanzai> Anybody else have trouble moving large files over to a samba file server?
[05:27] <Some_Person> That is, if I can get my sound card to work!
[05:28] <ajax4> I got another question for you Ubuntu wizards...how well does Xgl work in Dapper?
[05:28] <argpirate> DrBanzai, what kind of problem
[05:28] <DarkTower> defrysk: serious?
[05:28] <Some_Person> I have a Realtek AC97 (I know no other details)
[05:28] <Flannel> ajax4: pretty well.
[05:28] <argpirate> it workd real well
[05:28] <argpirate> do you use ati or nvidia?
[05:28] <semq> video card autodetect?
[05:28] <ajax4> argpirate: I have both, which is better?
[05:28] <argpirate> nvidia
[05:28] <DrBanzai> Well, when I try to move a large ISO, it shows up as much smaller on the file server
[05:28] <argpirate> by leaps and bounds
[05:28] <argpirate> well maybe just leaps
[05:28] <segfu> anyone know what package to install for java documentation?
[05:28] <DarkTower> So is it legal to just copy my xp fonts to ubuntu?
[05:29] <argpirate> DarkTower, legal enough
[05:29] <Some_Person> My nvidia card only works with the VESA driver, and not the nvidia one
[05:29] <intelikey> semq sure
[05:29] <semq> ok
[05:29] <argpirate> Some_Person, is it a very very very old card?
[05:29] <ajax4> argpirate: Thing is its a GF2 and I had probs under Linux with it crashing.
[05:29] <DarkTower> argpirate: sweet. Im only asking cos i need to do it for someone in a business setting, i dont care bout M$ doing it on my home cpmp
[05:29] <Flannel> ajax4: Ive got one of those, works fine.  nvidia has nice drivers.
[05:29] <semq> what driver should i pick? nv or nvidia?
[05:30] <argpirate> ajax4, hrm ive never used a card that old really. im pretty sure the driver supports it though
[05:30] <ajax4> Flannel: Awesome. Hopefully I'll have a better experience when I switch to Ubuntu Dapper.
[05:30] <argpirate> ati will work with xgl
[05:30] <Some_Person> semq, try nvidia, then nv, then vesa
[05:30] <argpirate> ati drivers are generally more difficult to install and buggy
[05:30] <intelikey> semq try the nv   if it will work for ya
[05:30] <Some_Person> one's bound to work
[05:30] <semq> ok
[05:31] <ajax4> argpirate: I had stability issues under Mandriva 2006...hopefully that will be gone under Dapper.
[05:31] <BrianHH> Hi, Everyone.  I've got a Microsoft Optical trackball, and the right and left buttons work, but I can't get the scrollwheel to work in Ubuntu.  Can ayone give me some pointers?
[05:31] <nemesis_> I am running dapper 6.06 lts and am trying to run wineHQ but when start the winecfg to create the fake windows drive i get a page fault
[05:31] <Some_Person> Now, how do I get my Realtek AC97 Soundcard to work in ubuntu?
[05:31] <argpirate> hrm, well hopefully, it really shouldnt make much diffrence though, the binary nvidia drivers are all the same
[05:31] <argpirate> never hurts to try though
[05:32] <lila> TrendKi: I installed gmplayer and I still can't see how to increate the image size
[05:32] <BrianHH> argpirate:  It was a pain in the neck to install my ati drivers.  Even with the scripts supplied by ati.
[05:32] <semq> asking me BUS identifier
[05:32] <Some_Person> i wonder
[05:32] <semq> didnt understand everything
[05:32] <argpirate> Yeah ati drivers are lagging behind
[05:32] <Some_Person> will mIRC work in WINE?
[05:32] <argpirate> i think they will catch up
[05:32] <spikeb> Some_Person, it should
[05:32] <semq> by default: PCI 2:0:0
[05:32] <intelikey> semq  in another terminal   lshw
[05:32] <spikeb> argpirate, ati's linux drivers have always been crap
[05:33] <Flannel> BrianHH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[05:33] <semq> should I quit now?
[05:33] <intelikey> semq no
[05:33] <argpirate> yeah i know, im a big nvidia fan for that reason
[05:33] <Flannel> Some_Person: why not use something better and native?
[05:33] <spikeb> i am an intel fan, i wish they'd make actual video cards
[05:33] <spikeb> heh
[05:33] <nemesis_> does anybody keep getting a page fault when they are running wine on dapper rc
[05:33] <TrendKi||> lila, right-click the mplayer window...go into preferences...try changing drivers in the video tab
[05:33] <semq> im using the CTRL ALT F1 command
[05:33] <Flannel> nemesis_: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[05:33] <argpirate> Some_Person, check http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=mirc616
[05:33] <semq> no gnome or kde
[05:33] <intelikey> just enter another terminal and   do lshw and find what address
[05:33] <nemesis_> thnx flannel
[05:34] <argpirate> but i think xchat is just as good
[05:34] <argpirate> and native
[05:34] <intelikey> ok in another console
[05:34] <nickrud> spikeb, I'm looking at laptops, should I focus on intel graphics?
[05:34] <argpirate> but i really dont irc much
[05:34] <intelikey> alt + f2
[05:34] <semq> how can i make another console?
[05:34] <spikeb> nickrud, either intel or nvidia graphics
[05:34] <semq> ok
[05:34] <semq> CTRL ALT F2?
[05:34] <spikeb> nickrud, intel has open drivers for their chipsets, and are fairly well supported
[05:34] <Flannel> semq: right.
[05:34] <semq> ok ty
[05:34] <drew> gosh I need to over ride tois
[05:34] <intelikey> semq you have multi consoles already
[05:34] <drew> this
[05:34] <nickrud> spikeb, heh. who has nvidia laptop chips? I like nvidia, for obvious reasons
[05:34] <Some_Person> I like Ubuntu
[05:35] <spikeb> nickrud, i can't think of anyone offhand, but they exist
[05:35] <spikeb> nickrud, apple has off and on ;)
[05:35] <intelikey> semq [alt] +[f1-6]    should all be active.
[05:35] <DarkTower> That bot rocks, would love to write one
[05:35] <buggzero> hello, anyone know of a good virtual mounted app?
[05:35] <semq> lshw : screen is scrolling down
[05:35] <argpirate> yeah ive seen them around, intel and ati kinda have the lappy market though
[05:35] <buggzero> or is it better to do that from console
[05:35] <Some_Person> I'll like it 200% more if I can get my damn soundcard to work!
[05:35] <argpirate> virtual mounted app?
[05:35] <nickrud> spikeb, I'm am looking at intel laptops almost exclusively, that was sort of a trick question :)
[05:35] <buggzero> *mount
[05:35] <intelikey> semq in console   shift page-up
[05:35] <argpirate> like for an iso?
[05:35] <spikeb> nickrud, apple's laptops are intel ;)
[05:36] <buggzero> affirmative
[05:36] <semq> ok
[05:36] <BrianHH> Thanks, flannel. :)
[05:36] <semq> what am i looking for?
[05:36] <argpirate> you should be able to just mount it
[05:36] <intelikey> semq or do     lshw | less     <--piping through less is very handy
[05:36] <nickrud> spikeb, heh. Can they boot :)
[05:36] <buggzero> from the console?
[05:36] <argpirate> mount /mnt/blah iso.image
[05:36] <semq> ok
[05:36] <lila> TrendKi: I change the video and audio drivers, everything works now. many thanks for your help, much appreciated.
[05:36] <buggzero> gotcha
[05:36] <intelikey> vidio address
[05:36] <argpirate> yeah
[05:36] <semq> kj
[05:36] <buggzero> unmount is umount right?
[05:36] <spikeb> nickrud, there are a lot of issues with them and linux still at the moment, unfortunately
[05:36] <argpirate> yeah
[05:36] <DrBanzai> Anybody else have trouble moving large files over to a samba file server?
[05:37] <TrendKi||> another satisfied customer...lol
[05:37] <setite_> what major store sells stetsons
[05:37] <argpirate> make sure you are out of all the sub dirs of the iso before you try to umount though
[05:37] <intelikey> buggzero yes
[05:37] <buggzero> thanks pirate
[05:37] <Celeste> hi
[05:37] <SurfnKid> A malicious client may be dropping on your session
[05:37] <SurfnKid> Whats this mean?
[05:37] <nickrud> spikeb, I have a budget. I have a desktop. I'm seriously thinking, OSX until Linux? very seductive
[05:37] <spikeb> nickrud, that's a great idea, in my opinion
[05:37] <spikeb> nickrud, i'd recommend a macbook over a macbook pro
[05:38] <intelikey> SurfnKid means a security hole.
[05:38] <buggzero> intelikey: is there a webpage that explains the generaly used  console commands
[05:38] <SurfnKid> thats nice
[05:38] <nickrud> fink, is that still a going concern? Seriously, I'm out of touch on that front
[05:38] <Some_Person> I know how to use wine
[05:38] <SurfnKid> =|
[05:38] <intelikey> !cli
[05:38] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[05:38] <intelikey> buggzero ^
[05:38] <argpirate> also if you need help with a specifc command you can
[05:38] <buggzero> \m/
[05:38] <argpirate> man <command> in the console
[05:39] <argpirate> and it will tell you more than you want to know
[05:39] <spikeb> nickrud, fink still going strong
[05:39] <buggzero> yeah i know about man, but its hard when xserver doesnt start
[05:39] <nickrud> hm. fun, play, work. Laptop.
[05:39] <Toba|BSD> can ubuntu read ufs/ufs2?
[05:39] <Some_Person> You know, this is only my 2nd week using Linux, and I think I'm getting used to it!
[05:39] <argpirate> did you break X buggzero ?
[05:39] <buggzero> when you man a command you can only shft+pgup a couple screens
[05:39] <Toba|BSD> or do I have to install something to make that work
[05:39] <spikeb> Some_Person, sweet
[05:39] <intelikey> argpirate depends on how much you want to know.... sometimes i find them lacking
[05:39] <argpirate> true
[05:40] <buggzero> i upgraded to dapper and it didnt like the old nv drivers at first
[05:40] <intelikey> buggzero you don't shift
[05:40] <buggzero> or ctrl
[05:40] <Some_Person> The only problem is Ubuntu won't recognise my damn sound card!
[05:40] <intelikey> buggzero man uses less for a pager.  use the up and down arrow keys
[05:40] <TrendKi||> Some_Person, what is your sound card?
[05:40] <argpirate> oh ya?
[05:40] <buggzero> hmmm
[05:41] <Some_Person> TrendKi||: Realtek AC97
[05:41] <intelikey> buggzero you should prolly  man less
[05:41] <buggzero> is there anyway to override the font that is used in console outside of x
[05:41] <blacks> If I get the error:  client 2 rejected from local host in my Xorg.0.log, what could be causing that?
[05:41] <nemesis_> i keep getting a page fault when i try to run configure winehq 0.9.12
[05:41] <nickrud> spikeb, I've heard that someone has got some version of linux up and running on the x86 laptops. Have you heard of anyone using that to get a deb based system up and running?
[05:41] <spikeb> nickrud, actually, a  couple people have come into #ubuntu+1 running dapper on them
[05:41] <Toba|BSD> did anyone see my question?
[05:41] <TrendKi||> Some_Person, that seems like a very linux-compatible card
[05:41] <intelikey> buggzero yes.   but don't get me started lying about how.
[05:42] <buggzero> man with the paramater of less or just man less as in stop using it so much
[05:42] <Some_Person> TrendKi||: How come Ubuntu won't recognise it?
[05:42] <Toba|BSD> ...nevermind, I'll just fly blind then
[05:42] <intelikey> "man less"  <--- that command
[05:42] <buggzero> FINE fine, dont start lying, that will just ruin my day
[05:42] <Toba|BSD> thanks anyways :)
[05:42] <semq> file is very big and info hard to find
[05:42] <argpirate> Some_Person, does it show up in kinfocenter?
[05:42] <nickrud> spikeb, that is greatly encouraging. I need a laptop. It's either gonna be an ultra cheap amd64, or an expensive mac. Hm. doh. hm.
[05:42] <semq> what does the line look like?
[05:43] <blind> Toba|BSD: fly me where?
[05:43] <intelikey> semq press /  and type vidio
[05:43] <semq> vidio?
[05:43] <Some_Person> argpirate: What is kinfocenter?
[05:43] <intelikey>  /vidio
[05:43] <semq> ok
[05:43] <argpirate> or wait ubuntu comes with gnome
[05:43] <distanceisdeath> I am trying to view music on myspace, but mozilla won't show any songs in the "little black box" on peoples myspace.  Anyways how can i hear the song?
[05:43] <argpirate> i dunno what the gnome equivalent is
[05:43] <drew> ???
[05:43] <semq> pattern not found
[05:44] <intelikey> semq if that comes up empty try backwards search  ?vidio
[05:44] <Some_Person> argpirate: You don't use Ubuntu, do you?
[05:44] <TrendKi||> Some_Person, how do you know its not recognized? is your volume maybe muted?
[05:44] <fogos> hi someone could giive me an amule list of servers please...
[05:44] <argpirate> i use Kubuntu
[05:44] <buggzero> dinstanceisdeath - upgrade mozilla-flash
[05:44] <semq> ok
[05:44] <distanceisdeath> okay
[05:44] <distanceisdeath> thanks
[05:44] <argpirate> kubunu > ubuntu
[05:44] <semq> pattern not found
[05:44] <buggzero> Kubunu < Dos
[05:44] <argpirate> heh
[05:44] <argpirate> well
[05:45] <argpirate> buggzero, whats gnomes hardware info tool?
[05:45] <intelikey> semq hehhe my bad  /display
[05:45] <nickrud> cli > gnome > xfce4 > kde > dos
[05:45] <semq> ok
[05:45] <Some_Person> TrendKi||: I rightclick on the speaker icon above and select volume control, and it says "No volume control elements and/or devices found."
[05:45] <buggzero> System > admin > Device info
[05:45] <semq> found it!
[05:45] <argpirate> Some_Person, check that
[05:45] <argpirate> see if your sound card is listed
[05:45] <intelikey> semq the line that is something like     bus info: pci@01:00.0
[05:45] <argpirate> silly gnome
[05:46] <Some_Person> argpirate: OK
[05:46] <semq> ok
[05:46] <buggzero> wqell i dont know what CLI is so im just going to see that gnome is the best although i like xfce too
[05:46] <semq> for me it is 2:00
[05:46] <buggzero> no YOUR silly
[05:46] <intelikey> and put that in the xorg config
[05:46] <argpirate> cli=command line interface
[05:46] <semq> ok
[05:46] <intelikey> there you go
[05:46] <buggzero> damnit
[05:46] <buggzero> i knew that
[05:46] <SurfnKid> iwconfig shows me 80211g but Wifi Radar shows 80211b what should i believe
[05:46] <TrendKi||> Some_Person, try opening a terminal and running alsamixer
[05:46] <argpirate> i dunno i just like kde better, its the little things
[05:46] <Some_Person> argpirate: The only sound-related thing is "AT-style speaker sound"
[05:46] <nickrud> argpirate, that
[05:46] <semq> memory used by video card ?
[05:46] <buggzero> yeah but kde is just like frickin windows
[05:47] <buggzero> well XP at least
[05:47] <nickrud> s taste, nothing to be ashamed of, even if it's wrong :P
[05:47] <buggzero> looks just as fisher price rediculous
[05:47] <argpirate> hrm they all 3 seem pretty similar to me
[05:47] <intelikey> !tell buggzero about cli
[05:47] <Some_Person> TrendKi||: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[05:47] <SurfnKid> !iwconfig
[05:47] <ubotu> SurfnKid: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:48] <buggzero> didint uboutu just told me about CLI
[05:48] <buggzero> dont mind my small attention span
[05:48] <BioVorE> ?
[05:48] <defrysk> Some_Person, used automatix or something ?
[05:48] <Some_Person> defrysk: What are those things?
[05:48] <nemesis_> does anybody get a page fault when running wine config to create the fake windows drive in wine0.9.12
[05:48] <defrysk> Some_Person, nm
[05:48] <buggzero> no
[05:49] <RobNyc_C> I want to install edubuntu how can I install that from the latest ubuntu livecd?
[05:49] <tritium> RobNyc_C: edubuntu has its own cd images
[05:49] <buggzero> i think you have to download that iso of it
[05:49] <TrendKi||> Some_Person, try typing dmesg in the terminal and look through the outpuit to find anything relatyed to your sound card
[05:49] <nickrud> RobNyc_C, that is agood question
[05:49] <defrysk> Some_Person, do you have an internal and external soundcard ?
[05:49] <semq> kernel framebuffer yes or no?
[05:50] <intelikey> live cd's are not generally the best way to install a system.....
[05:50] <RobNyc_C> Trinisan, but in distrowatch it shows the latest dapper cd for all 3
[05:50] <nickrud> RobNyc_C, nm, see tritium
[05:50] <buggzero> semq - use it unless you have problems
[05:50] <intelikey> semq no
[05:50] <Some_Person> defrysk: internal only
[05:50] <buggzero> no?
[05:50] <intelikey> no
[05:50] <semq> ty
[05:50] <buggzero> is it bad?
[05:50] <defrysk> Some_Person, build in motherboard ?
[05:50] <intelikey> not bad but restrictive
[05:50] <semq> autodetect keyb layout
[05:50] <Some_Person> defrysk: PCI card
[05:50] <buggzero> cause in the faq i read said to disable it only if you have problems
[05:50] <intelikey> semq sure
[05:50] <buggzero> semq yes
[05:50] <semq> k
[05:51] <defrysk> Some_Person, does your motherboard also have a build in soundcard ?
[05:51] <semq> XKB rule set = xorg?
[05:51] <buggzero> ok, ill shut up now becuase ive been wrong like 3x
[05:51] <Some_Person> defrysk: I don't know.
[05:51] <intelikey> semq yse
[05:51] <tritium> RobNyc_C: you want dapper version?
[05:51] <intelikey> yes
[05:51] <defrysk> Some_Person, know how to get into your bios ?
[05:51] <nickrud> buggzero, that is no reason to hide at all. How many times have you been right?
[05:52] <tritium> RobNyc_C: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dapper/
[05:52] <Some_Person> defrysk: My soundcard works in Windows
[05:52] <semq> keyboard options. ?
[05:52] <defrysk> Some_Person, you are not on windows now
[05:52] <drew> is free bsd any good
[05:52] <TrendKi||> Some_Person, look at the back of your pc, if u see two sets of sound outputs u have 2 soundcards
[05:52] <RobNyc_C> i already have the latest dapper version of ubuntu running ready to install, so i guess i'll install that and then install edubutu-desktop .. since i thought it looked better :)
[05:52] <Some_Person> defrysk: I have a dualboot system
[05:52] <Some_Person> TrendKi||: I have 1 soundcard
[05:52] <RobNyc_C> http://distrowatch.com/3463
[05:53] <defrysk> Some_Person, my suggestion is first check in your bios if you have a build in mobo soundcard and disable it if you do
[05:53] <RobNyc_C> ah yea now i see where it says for other editions
[05:53] <Some_Person> defrysk: I don't as far as I know
[05:53] <lavi> hi all,  what is the exactly name of package imagemagick? i run 'apt-get install imagemagick', but that package installed was not my meaning.
[05:53] <Some_Person> TrendKi|| & defrysk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14886
[05:54] <semq> no options entered
[05:54] <drew> wats a another good distro
[05:54] <nickrud> lavi, that is the package name. If youre not seeing it, you have some bad sources.
[05:54] <Flannel> drew: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a more appropriate place to ask
[05:54] <semq> what Xserver modules should I pick?
[05:54] <drew> k thx
[05:54] <vinboy> how do I register my .so file?
[05:54] <zak__> G'day/evening/night.  I've lost a gigabyte, and I'd appreciate a hand finding it.  Problem is that "dumpe2fs -h" and "df" disagree on how many free blocks I have in this here filesystem.
[05:55] <RobNyc_C> does ubuntu lets me install reiser4 ?
[05:55] <lavi> nickrud: okay
[05:55] <nickrud> !repos
[05:55] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:55] <RobNyc_C> ah guess not but its in the install
[05:55] <intelikey> semq http://www.monitorworld.com  and search for your monitor make and model   get the  vertical refresh and horizonal sync rates    if you have trubble with the monitor section.     that is the biggest cause of xorg failure   impropper v/h rates.       if you have other quetions nickrud might help ya.  i'll be back in half hour or so.
[05:55] <ctothej> can you configure dual head to work with the standard vesa driver?
[05:55] <nickrud> lavi, I suggest replacing your sources with the surces matching your distro abov
[05:55] <semq> ok ty intellikey
[05:55] <lavi> nickrud: that is, i have to compile that package own.
[05:55] <intelikey> np
[05:56] <nickrud> intelikey, :)
[05:56] <semq> ty much for tips
[05:56] <Some_Person> My beepy speaker sometimes beeps in Ubuntu!
[05:56] <RobNyc_C> how many users here are using X1000 series ati cards?
[05:56] <Some_Person> What does that mean?
[05:56] <ctothej> RobNyc_C: i am
[05:56] <RobNyc_C> ctothej, which one
[05:56] <RobNyc_C> i got the x1600 pro 512mb
[05:56] <ctothej> x1900
[05:57] <TrendKi||> Some_Person, yeah it doesnt see your sound card
[05:57] <jrattner1> !dapper
[05:57] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[05:57] <lavi> nickrud: great advise. but, it seems that i cannt well get a good mirror site on deb. could you plz gimme a link for that?
[05:57] <nickrud> lavi, no, just get it from the repos. But, imagemagick is in main, which makes me concerned about your sourcws
[05:57] <semq> brb
[05:57] <TrendKi||> Some_Person, how about the output from the lspci command?
[05:57] <ctothej> RobNyc_C: did you get the new ati driver working?
[05:57] <RobNyc_C> ctothej, yup did u
[05:57] <nickrud> lavi, http:archive.ubuntu.com
[05:57] <audisam> WHY ubunto cannot install PHP4 and here is the example http://pastebin.com/748395
[05:57] <RobNyc_C> ati released the 8.25 ati drivers now
[05:57] <defrysk> methinks : a build in souncard
[05:57] <semq> what xorg modules should I load?
[05:58] <DrBanzai> RobNyc_C, Are they any better?
[05:58] <ctothej> RobNyc_C not yet. i am trying right now actually. i get a black screen after install
[05:58] <lavi> nickrud: all of links need to test the speed on connecting?
[05:58] <ctothej> any suggestions?
[05:58] <RobNyc_C> ctothej, you're using the ubuntu drivers or the ati ones
[05:58] <Some_Person> I'm now on mIRC
[05:58] <RobNyc_C> DrBanzai, im not sure yet i will see after i install dapper now and then install the drivers from repository and see what glxgears -printfps gives me
[05:59] <nickrud> lavi, that is an issue, but reliabilty of sources is better than speed. And archive.ubuntu.com is fast
[05:59] <ctothej> RobNyc_C i followed the directions to use the ubuntu drivers from dapper.
[05:59] <audisam> Cann anybody analyze this error http://pastebin.com/748395
[05:59] <defrysk> Some_Person, check the back of your pc and see if you have "double" plugholes for sound and stuff
[05:59] <Some_Person> Where does WINE install programs to?
[05:59] <lavi> nickrud: thx a lot. i got it
[05:59] <RobNyc_C> i was running the 8.25 version drivers from ati site i got with the ati installer, in Parsix (Debian SId) distro and i was getting 2700 fps =\ that sucks we'll see how much i get with ubuntu
[05:59] <Some_Person> defrysk: I have 1 plughole!
[05:59] <defrysk> okok
[05:59] <RobNyc_C> ctothej, i followed it and it w orked fine for me
[05:59] <TrendKi||> Some_Person, into the .wine directory in your home directory
[05:59] <RobNyc_C> ctothej, u can try the ati installer which is even easier
[06:00] <Fly_Molo> hey can someone help me reach the ubuntu desktop?
[06:00] <Some_Person> Where's the .wine directory?
[06:00] <RobNyc_C> u'll probably benefit more since its 8.25 version which i dont think Linux has yet or at least im not sure
[06:00] <Fly_Molo> i just installed 5.10 on my laptop
[06:00] <Fly_Molo> and it wont boot into the desktop
[06:00] <TrendKi||> Some_Person, in your home directory
[06:00] <nickrud> semq, since intelikey put me on the spot (i've done the same to him) what's the issue?
[06:00] <bimberi> audisam: universe repository enabled?
[06:00] <dblpd> Hi, I can't get any audio to work in ubuntu. it makes mention of a sound server of some sort? any suggestions?
[06:00] <tritium> Fly_Molo: what's happening?
[06:00] <ctothej> when i run fglrxinfo, it says "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!"
[06:01] <RobNyc_C> ctothej, have u checked the forums ?
[06:01] <Fly_Molo> i just installed the DVD 5.10 ubuntu on my HP Pavillion zv6000
[06:01] <audisam> bimbri: I did  try that but it said that cound not find or enable it
[06:01] <Fly_Molo> and i set up the language and partitioned the HD
[06:01] <nanotalk> hi, can kernel-module-ntfs read protected ntfs folder ? (folder with password)
[06:01] <bimberi> audisam: put your sources.list on the pastegin
[06:01] <bimberi> *bin
[06:01] <Fly_Molo> after the install it goes into a DOS-interface and asks me to login
[06:02] <ctothej> RobNyc_C ive been searching. still have more to read though
[06:02] <Fly_Molo> i got lost from there
[06:02] <RobNyc_C> ctothej, go for it
[06:02] <audisam> bimbri: how to obtain those informations?
[06:02] <RobNyc_C> ctothej, im triple-booting my pc with xp pro, osx86 and linux =]  .. so my x1600 is being good use
[06:02] <Fly_Molo> ive checked all over the forums for info and found nothing that can help me reach the ubuntu interface
[06:02] <Some_Person> Now, why wont my soundcard work?
[06:03] <audisam> bimbri:  i tried this and i endup gettin this error : audisam@ubuntu:~$ sudo a2enmod php4
[06:03] <audisam> This module does not exist!
[06:03] <semq> Some1 Help me: I don't know what modules to pick in xorg conf
[06:03] <Fly_Molo> i am running breezy badger
[06:03] <humbolt> what do you guys think about root on LVM?
[06:03] <Fly_Molo> and its telling me that the graphical interface is not set correctly
[06:03] <audisam> bimbri:   it says that this modue does not exist that is used to enable php4 and I cannot even find phh4 folder in my /ect/
[06:03] <brett> Has anyone installed Handbrake in Dapper?
[06:03] <upup> Help - I need to get WINE up asap - Can anyone provide guidance, web links, love, sympathy, etc.....
[06:03] <bimberi> audisam: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:04] <tritium> Fly_Molo: please try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to properly setup the windowing system
[06:04] <argpirate> upup, frankscorner.org
[06:04] <semq> tritium: what modules should I pick in this config?
[06:04] <Will123> hi, i'm trying to edit a parition, and i'm not sure which filesystem I should use. I want to use NTFS, but it doesn't give me this option. Should I just use FAT32?
[06:04] <tritium> semq: it's up to you
[06:04] <ramblingturtle> my sound does not work on dapper now but did work on hoary the device manager sees the soundblaster card but it is not installed any help would be apperciated
[06:04] <tritium> semq: the defaults are fine
[06:05] <semq> should I pick all of them?
[06:05] <upup> argpirate: much love in your general direction, thanks mate !
[06:05] <semq> ok
[06:05] <TiG4> --- Is it just me, or can I no longer customize the way my buddy list looks in GAIM 2.0b3 in Dapper ---
[06:05] <audisam> bimbri:   here what I got in this SOURCE_LIST
[06:05] <audisam> bimbri:  http://pastebin.com/748402
[06:05] <BioVorE> we doing dapper yet?
[06:05] <crimsun> ramblingturtle: pastebin ``lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer''
[06:05] <tritium> no, not yet, BioVorE
[06:05] <nickrud> nonix4, a few hours yet
[06:05] <crimsun> ramblingturtle: then tell me the url
[06:05] <capgadget> LOL audisam I was expecting a 100 line long flood.
[06:05] <BioVorE> well.. I catch it in the morning.. night yall
[06:06] <nickrud> I hate tab completion sometimes
[06:06] <bimberi> audisam: uncomment lines 19,20,35,36 then update and retry
[06:06] <nickrud> semq, ah, X. intelikey sent you at me for a reason then
[06:07] <Fly_Molo> ok i ran that and im still at a DOS-like interface
[06:07] <nickrud> as long as it's not ati
[06:07] <Some_Person> Can anyone get my soundcard working?
[06:08] <audisam> bimbri:   done ! Let me try now
[06:08] <ramblingturtle> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14887
[06:08] <Fly_Molo> it wont let me restart, and its saying that i need to be a superuser
[06:08] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: Do you have an nVidia videocard?
[06:08] <TiG4> --- Is it just me, or can I no longer customize the way my buddy list looks in GAIM 2.0b3 in Dapper ---
[06:08] <Will123> bleh, i'm not sure what to do on the partion disks step of installation. do i need to just use FAT32?
[06:08] <Fly_Molo> negative its an ATi Mobility Radeon X200
[06:09] <crimsun> ramblingturtle: ``lsmod''
[06:09] <Fly_Molo> HP Pavillion zv6000 laptop
[06:09] <Fly_Molo> and nothing much on the forums that have helped me so far
[06:09] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: sudo reboot
[06:13] <Fly_Molo> thanks
[06:13] <audisam> bimbri:   what's that??
[06:13] <Fly_Molo> its still telling me that the graphical interface doesent work though
[06:13] <bimberi> audisam: never mind
[06:13] <nickrud> rflol
[06:13] <bimberi> stop it nickrud :P
[06:13] <nickrud> can't help it
[06:13] <semq> Ive a problem: when i type X -configure, it says "missing output drivers"
[06:13] <nickrud> semq, the tool of choice is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> Will123: ext3 is the default/recommended.
[06:13] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: Type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:13] <Will123> okay
[06:13] <Some_Person> select the VESA driver
[06:13] <ramblingturtle> crimsun: its there now
[06:13] <semq> thats what i just did
[06:13] <audisam> bimbri:  its something with ubuntu server because it can not locate files there
[06:13] <semq> dpkg reconfig
[06:13] <crimsun> ramblingturtle: url?
[06:13] <semq> but it doesnt fix my problem
[06:13] <ramblingturtle> crimsun: its the same
[06:13] <rob138> what is the difference between the ubuntu install CD's and DVD's?
[06:13] <bimberi> audisam: what's the error?
[06:13] <crimsun> ramblingturtle: then please tell me so next time :-)
[06:13] <nickrud> semq, what video card do you have? if you're not sure, do sudo lspci and paste the results on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:13] <semq> FX 5200
[06:13] <nickrud> semq, my card :0
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> rob138: DVDs have more stuff.
[06:13] <crimsun> ramblingturtle: (fwiw, the URL /does/ differ)
[06:13] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: You still there?
[06:14] <Fly_Molo> yes i am here
[06:14] <Fly_Molo> i just ran it
[06:14] <Fly_Molo> and i rebooted
[06:14] <rob138> tonyyarusso, like what? is there a wiki or something that shows what packages are included?
[06:14] <h3h_timo> what is a good application for extracting rar files?? like 7zip?
[06:14] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: Does it work?
[06:14] <tritium> Fly_Molo: did you see the ati wiki page?
[06:14] <ramblingturtle> crimsun: sorry about that
[06:14] <nickrud> semq, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx
[06:14] <RobNyc_C> i just installed dapper and i dont remember it asking me where i wanted grub to be installed ..
[06:14] <crimsun> ramblingturtle: ``sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1 && amixer''
[06:14] <Fly_Molo> didnt work
[06:14] <Fly_Molo> and yes i did see the wiki page
[06:14] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: Did you try the VESA driver?
[06:14] <Fly_Molo> it was confusing to say the least
[06:15] <Fly_Molo> negative i didnt try the vesa driver
[06:15] <nickrud> semq, type that in a terminal, tell me when it's done
[06:15] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: Try it. It worked for my nvidia card.
[06:15] <semq> E: impossible to find linux-restricted-modules-2.12.10-k7 something
[06:15] <audisam> bimbri:  here what the error is now ! http://pastebin.com/748416
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> rob138: I don't know if there is, but I think it might have universe/multiverse, or at least KDE/Gnome/XFCE on one disk.  (Not exactly sure.)
[06:15] <audisam> can not locate files on server
[06:15] <Fly_Molo> would it work for an ATi card?
[06:15] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: I don't know.
[06:15] <rob138> tonyrusso okay
[06:15] <tritium> Fly_Molo: it generally does, although nvidia support is a bit better
[06:16] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: But you've got nothing to lose.
[06:16] <Fly_Molo> well can i get a walkthrough
[06:16] <nickrud> semq, ok. you have bad sources. We'll step back a step.
[06:16] <Fly_Molo> yes thats true
[06:16] <semq> :0
[06:16] <nickrud> semq, hem.
[06:16] <ramblingturtle> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14889
[06:16] <semq> i just rebooted it loads kde :)
[06:16] <nickrud> semq, please put the exact error you get with that command on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:16] <semq> after dpkg reconfig
[06:16] <bimberi> audisam: sudo apt-get update
[06:16] <ph0n3b03> update . . . yes . . .
[06:16] <semq> ive french version nick
[06:16] <tritium> Fly_Molo: if you don't need 3D accel, you could simply try the open ati driver (ati, rather than fglrx)
[06:17] <semq> message in french
[06:17] <nickrud> semq, I've seen that before, np
[06:17] <Fly_Molo> how do i do that?
[06:17] <ph0n3b03> apt-get update
[06:17] <semq> ok ty m8
[06:17] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: Type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select the VESA driver.
[06:17] <tritium> Fly_Molo: above instructions, but select "ati" driver
[06:17] <ph0n3b03> yah
[06:17] <ph0n3b03> sorry
[06:17] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: Try both.
[06:17] <Fly_Molo> rgr
[06:17] <blanky> !requirements
[06:17] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, blanky
[06:17] <tritium> Fly_Molo: I'd be surprised if that wasn't setup by default during install
[06:17] <audisam> bimberi: should i try again now?
[06:17] <blanky> !minimumrequirements
[06:18] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, blanky
[06:18] <Will123> okay, i don't understand this. I'm trying to use a partition as Ext3, but it gives me an error and says no root system? what do i have to do.
[06:18] <bimberi> audisam: yep
[06:18] <Some_Person> Will123: Select your ext3 partition and change it from /dev/whatever to /
[06:18] <audisam> bimberi: loooks like its downlonding it now  :)
[06:18] <Will123> okay, thanks
[06:19] <Will123> mount point?
[06:19] <Some_Person> yep
[06:19] <Will123> oh i see
[06:19] <audisam> bimberi:  IT still doing it gimmy one more secon :)
[06:19] <Some_Person> Gah, 2 weeks on ubuntu, and I'm helping people.
[06:19] <Will123> okay, what is the mount point?
[06:19] <Some_Person> its .
[06:19] <Fly_Molo> ok i tried both and im getting this message: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.200605301418
[06:19] <Some_Person> Will123: select "/"
[06:19] <achandra> hello.
[06:20] <crimsun> ramblingturtle: excellent. now: amixer set 'Master' on && amixer set 'Master' 80% && amixer set 'PCM' on && amixer set 'PCM' 77% && amixer set 'Surround' on && amixer set 'Wave' on && amixer set 'Wave' 77% && amixer set 'Wave Center' 77% && amixer set 'Wave LFE' 77% && amixer set 'Wave Surround' 77% && amixer set 'AC97' 100% && amixer set 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack' on && amixer set 'Sigmatel Surround' on && amixer set 'Sigmatel Su
[06:20] <hedrek> !smb4k
[06:20] <ubotu> hedrek: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:20] <Will123> haha, okay, i did, i'm just trying to make sure i learn what everything is.
[06:20] <Some_Person> ubotu should be banned, he's useless
[06:20] <ubotu> Some_Person: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:20] <Some_Person> ubotu, who made you?
[06:20] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Some_Person
[06:20] <Some_Person> lol
[06:20] <achandra> does anFreeNodeyone know how to adjust the synaptic touch pad settings? mine is way to sensitive and executes a click or doublick even when i move the mouse around..
[06:20] <Fly_Molo> wait i got it w00t!
[06:20] <ph0n3b03> arg!
[06:20] <Fly_Molo> thanks
[06:21] <nickrud> Some_Person, it just takes knowing what to ask. And don't abuse the bot
[06:21] <Fly_Molo> thanks alot guys
[06:21] <Some_Person> nickrud: ok
[06:21] <achandra> see what i mean? sorry for typo..
[06:21] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: which one worked?
[06:21] <Fly_Molo> that was my first time inside linux
[06:21] <Fly_Molo> VESA driver
[06:21] <nickrud> Some_Person, bot's are stupid, true
[06:21] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: thought so
[06:21] <Fly_Molo> now how do i go about changing the resolution
[06:21] <ramblingturtle> crimsun: what did you just say?
[06:21] <Fly_Molo> Thank you very much Some_Person
[06:21] <Fly_Molo> *hug*
[06:22] <crimsun> ramblingturtle: copy and paste that entire command.
[06:22] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: lol, I've only been on ubuntu 2 weeks
[06:22] <Handsome> irc.cbn.net.id
[06:22] <DrBanzai> Anybody else have trouble moving large files over to a samba file server?
[06:22] <audisam> bimberi:  check this out http://pastebin.com/748425
[06:22] <Will123> okay, it wants me to make a partition for swap space. how big does it need to be?
[06:22] <ph0n3b03> how large
[06:22] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: and its my first linux ever
[06:22] <ramblingturtle> crimsun: thank you
[06:22] <nickrud> semq_, how's it going?
[06:23] <Some_Person> Fly_Molo: To change resolution, go to System>Preferences>Screen Resolution
[06:23] <Fly_Molo> thank you
[06:23] <ph0n3b03> DrBansai: How large?
[06:23] <semq_> i'm in linux now ;)
[06:23] <semq_> ty nick
[06:23] <DrBanzai> ph0n3b03, It's over 4 gig
[06:23] <Some_Person> I'm on mIRC in Linux
[06:23] <audisam> bimberi:  does it mean that apache already exist or that it can not be downloaded?
[06:23] <SurfnKid> !smtp
[06:23] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid
[06:23] <semq_> now i'd like to export my gnome to kde
[06:23] <SurfnKid> get off the drugs ubotu just help me out
[06:24] <ctothej> how do i restart x without restarting the computer?
[06:24] <nickrud> semq_, it's close to bedtime, so ...
[06:24] <SurfnKid> :P
[06:24] <ph0n3b03> Hmmm . . . I don't have many files that big.  But, no.
[06:24] <dblpd> crimsum: can you give me a hand with my sound too?
[06:24] <Some_Person> SurfinKid: SMTP is an e-mail sending server
[06:24] <ramblingturtle> crimsun: it doesn't do anything
[06:24] <semq_> where's intel? hu
[06:24] <semq_> nite nick
[06:24] <crimsun> ramblingturtle: did you test with ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''?
[06:24] <crimsun> dblpd: pastebin the same thing I asked
[06:24] <semq_> ;)
[06:24] <ctothej> RobNyc_C: i got it finally..
[06:24] <nickrud> semq_, he's gone for a bit, he handed me off to you.
[06:25] <SurfnKid> right but im trying to figure out if my ubuntu has it set up
[06:25] <SurfnKid> how can i check
[06:25] <Some_Person> SurfinKid: Go to your e-mail program (Ubuntu comes with Evolution)
[06:25] <RobNyc_C> ctothej, good what u did
[06:25] <Will123> it wants me to make swap space for installation. How big does a swap parition usually have to be?
[06:25] <ramblingturtle> crimsun: no nothing played with that command
[06:25] <Some_Person> Will123: Mine is 1000MB
[06:25] <dblpd> crimsum: mine says no such device
[06:26] <Will123> okay
[06:26] <ph0n3b03> Will123: Good rule 2x memory
[06:26] <ctothej> RobNyc_C: used method #2, installed the drivers manually
[06:26] <ctothej> using restricted modules
[06:26] <RobNyc_C> from the ati site ? using the installer ? ctothej
[06:26] <SurfnKid> Some_person my ISP doesnt let me use their SMTP server, so I have to relay somewhere, and I used Win2kAdvSrv SMTP but now I wanna send thru ubuntu
[06:26] <ctothej> RobNyc_C: from the ati site, creating the .deb packages
[06:26] <ramblingturtle> crimsun: after pasting that last command all that happens is this symbol pops up after hitting enter > on the next line
[06:27] <RobNyc_C> ctothej, oh cool i should read about it then
[06:27] <achandra> anyone know how to configure the synaptics touch pad?
[06:27] <ctothej> RobNyc_C: i just need to get dual head working now
[06:27] <Some_Person> SurfinKid: PM me
[06:27] <RobNyc_C> goodluck
[06:27] <crimsun> ramblingturtle: you made a typo, then
[06:27] <DarkTower> Will123: 1.5 times size of RAM, good rule of thumb
[06:27] <Some_Person> SurfinKid: You can use my old ISP's e-mail
[06:28] <RobNyc_C> I just installed edubuntu-desktop so now how do I log into it ?
[06:28] <crimsun> ramblingturtle: you need to copy and paste /exactly/ what I gave you (minus any instructions, of course)
[06:29] <crimsun> dblpd: which command?
[06:29] <ramblingturtle> crimsun: cool
[06:29] <dblpd> crimsum: ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''
[06:30] <crimsun> dblpd: no, I need the previous output (see the lpci -v ... command)
[06:30] <Will123> darktower: thanks
[06:31] <dblpd> crimsum: lpci -v?
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> RobNyc_C: What did you have before?
[06:31] <adamant1988> Robnyc_C: you should have been given the oppertunity to setup a user account when you installed...
[06:31] <lavi> nickrud: i ve a Q,  what is the diff between dapper and brezy in dists, or  can you gimme a link on it for understanding?
[06:31] <RobNyc_C> tonyyarusso, ubuntu
[06:31] <crimsun> dblpd: scroll up 26 minutes.
[06:31] <RobNyc_C> adamant1988, huh
[06:31] <bimberi> audisam: it means that apache2 is already installed
[06:32] <jmoncayo> is there any other way to install ubuntu if you dont have a workable cdrom and floppy
[06:32] <nemesis> how to stop pcmia services, cause when i eject my pcmia card ubuntu crashes
[06:32] <adamant1988> Robnyc_C: When installations install on your system they have a step to setup a root password and a user account.  Did you not get that step?
[06:32] <Drasla> how do I configure a program to always run on boot?
[06:32] <wormsarm> hi m8s
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> RobNyc_C: Then it's just a matter of getting different programs I think, so you log in as usual.  It may have a different desktop setup though - if that's the case you would select it by clicking "Sessions" at the login screen before putting in your credentials.
[06:32] <crimsun> jmoncayo: over the network via pxe if your bios supports it
[06:32] <nickrud> lavi, breezy is the release made in october of 2005 (5.10) Dapper is the release that's coming up in a day or so, on june 1 (6.06). Hopefully, dapper will be better on your machine
[06:32] <audisam> bimberi:  it looks that i installed Apache 2 , php4 and now I am at the point "After Installing MYSQL"
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> Drasla: On boot or Gnome login?
[06:32] <dblpd> crimsum: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14891
[06:33] <bimberi> audisam: kk
[06:33] <firestorm> When I try to run apache I get this error(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[06:33] <Drasla> tonyyarusso: On boot.  I'm trying to set up a monitor for my RAID
[06:33] <RobNyc_C> tonyyarusso, i didnt see edubuntu in the sessions list
[06:33] <crimsun> dblpd: for your sanity and mine, please spell my nick correctly, or my highlight won't trigger and I'll never see your responses to me
[06:33] <wormsarm> I really need to run worms armageddon with wine, but when I'm going to install it... the game can't start the instalation (wine does well but the game doesn't install) Anyone knows why?
[06:33] <SurfnKid> :P
[06:33] <lavi> nickrud: ok, thx :)
[06:33] <dblpd> crimsun: i'm sorry i thought that was an 'm'
[06:34] <RobNyc_C> but intstead now afte ri rebooted, it logs into edubuntu as default and did that take off ubuntu-desktop ?
[06:34] <jmoncayo> crimsun, any other?
[06:34] <ctothej_> how do i restart x server?
[06:34] <crimsun> dblpd: which isa sound card do you have?
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> Drasla: You put the script in /etc/init.d/ and then use the update-rc.d command to set it to runlevels.  man update-rc.d should tell you more.
[06:34] <nickrud> and, since I'm about to disassemble my installation here tonight, not to be put back  together until friday at least, I'm gonna miss all the agony. I hope all the supporters here have nothing but good experiences with this release.
[06:34] <crimsun> that's it.
[06:34] <dblpd> it's an onboard card
[06:34] <Drasla> tonyyarusso: thanks
[06:34] <Madpilot> anyone actually successfully used the update-manager to get from Breezy to Dapper? It's aborting on me with an error that makes no sense at all about disc space...
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> RobNyc_C: Then I'd guess it's just extra programs probably...
[06:34] <audisam> bimberi:   ok following the instructions  I came to the point where i need to type in this command  sudo ./bin/mysql_install_db --user=mysql
[06:34] <crimsun> dblpd: that's not specific enough
[06:34] <crimsun> dblpd: if all else fails, tell me the precise make & model computer, then open your case and look for the sound card information
[06:35] <bimberi> RobNyc_C: edubuntu won't appear in the sessions list.  Log into Gnome and you will find Apps under Applications -> Education
[06:35] <audisam> bimberi: I did that and this is what I am getting http://pastebin.com/748437
[06:35] <RobNyc_C> bimberi, yes you're right .. so what happen to ubuntu-desktop now ? cuz i had a different gdm theme, and everythign i know the themes are still there
[06:35] <audisam> bimberi: Sorry , I am new to installing  apache as well as the fact that I am the new LINUX user
[06:35] <wormsarm> anyone knows? :P
[06:36] <bimberi> audisam: that looks fine :)
[06:36] <dblpd> crimsun: it's an IBM aptiva E5D i found
[06:36] <audisam> bimberi:  Ok now I am typing this sudo mysql -u root
[06:36] <audisam> bimberi: and i am getting this error ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[06:36] <audisam> audisam@ubuntu:/usr$ sudo mysql -u root
[06:37] <ramblingturtle> crimsun: thank you very much i now have sound and as far as I can tell everything works great but that last part of the command did not work for me all i see is amixer set 'Sigmatel Su is this correct?
[06:37] <crimsun> dblpd: ``pnpdump''
[06:37] <bimberi> RobNyc_C: that i'm not sure about sorry.  It might still be available via System -> Admin -> Login Screen Setup (iirc)
[06:37] <dblpd> crimsun: i thnk is has a "Crystal SRS 3-D audi card:
[06:37] <crimsun> ramblingturtle: your buffer's too short, then.
[06:37] <cybersick> i am having a problem installing ubuntu in my pc
[06:37] <cybersick> who can help me??
[06:37] <crimsun> ramblingturtle: amixer set 'Sigmatel Surround' on && amixer set 'Sigmatel Surround' 77%
[06:38] <dblpd> crimsun: pnpdump doesnt do anything in the terminal? is there something else I should type wiht it?
[06:38] <crimsun> ramblingturtle: now for good measure, let's make it load on boot automatically: ``echo snd-emu10k1 |sudo tee -a /etc/modules''
[06:38] <dblpd> crimsun: (i'm new with linux)
[06:38] <crimsun> dblpd: ``lspnp -v''
[06:39] <wormsarm> why emulating with wine a installation of a windows program doesn't work??
[06:40] <ramblingturtle> crimsun: thank you thank you!
[06:40] <dblpd> crimsun: that returns bad command?
[06:40] <crimsun> dblpd: install isapnptools from universe
[06:41] <cybersick> when i am installing ubuntu 5.10 on my 64-bit pc (with the 64-bit-version cd) it detects the DVD-RW drive but then it stops reading the cd????
[06:41] <dblpd> crimsun: it says it can't find it?
[06:41] <cybersick> no
[06:41] <cybersick> it 'continues' to read it
[06:41] <BrianHH> Hi, Everyone.  I'm having trouble getting my Palm T5 to sync.  It's hooked up to a hub.  I can see it in /proc/bus/usb/devices, but I can't seem to access it.  Can someone help me figure out what port to point /dev/pilot to?
[06:42] <cybersick> but the drive led doesnt even blink
[06:42] <dblpd> crimsun: apt-get install isapnptools ?
[06:43] <cybersick> and it hangs at 0%
[06:43] <audisam> bimberi: and i am getting this error ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[06:43] <crimsun> dblpd: yes
[06:43] <cybersick> =/
[06:43] <encompass> BrianHH: have you tried it without a hub?  That was my problem
[06:43] <dblpd> crimsun: it says it couldnt find the package?
[06:43] <crimsun> dblpd: then enabled universe
[06:43] <Will123> cybersick: the cd could be messed up. I had to use a different burner because of bad CDs.
[06:43] <cybersick> no
[06:43] <dblpd> it is
[06:43] <crimsun> dblpd: are you running breezy or dapper?
[06:43] <dblpd> dapper
[06:43] <RobNyc_C> !sources
[06:43] <crimsun> dblpd: it doesn't exist in dapper
[06:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:43] <dblpd> oh
[06:43] <cybersick> Will123: u mean i have to change the drive to a cd-rom???
[06:43] <RobNyc_C> !easysource
[06:43] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:43] <crimsun> dblpd: you'll need to do research on your own and tell me more information.
[06:43] <RobNyc_C> should I uncomment the security universe sources ?
[06:43] <dblpd> crimsun: lol, ok thanks man
[06:43] <encompass> BrianHH: did you hear me?
[06:44] <BrianHH> encompass:  I had it working through the hub yesterday.  That's what's frustrating to me.  I had to reinstall the whole machine 'cause I screwed up jre.
[06:44] <bimberi> audisam: sorry, i don't know what the issue is there :/
[06:44] <BrianHH> Sorry, encompass.  Just slow typing.
[06:44] <encompass> I have a python question and I can't seem to get into the python channel,... it is a simple one... my I ask it here?
[06:44] <cybersick> Will123: i have like 5 cds of it, but all of them do the same...
[06:44] <bork> I'm plugging in a usb drive, and it is powering up, but it is not being picked up the file explorer. Any ideas?
[06:45] <encompass> BrianHH: very interesting... was it plug and play for you the last time?
[06:45] <Will123> oh, hmm.. your cd rom could be damaged?
[06:45] <cybersick> no
[06:45] <cybersick> because i was using windows (arghhh) until today
[06:45] <cybersick> and it was working wonderfully
[06:46] <BrianHH> encompass:  It wasn't exactly plug and play.  I had to figure out what port to use it on.  But I can't remember which port that was.  I tried all the ttyUSB ports I could find...
[06:46] <Madpilot> encompass, try #ubuntu-offtopic, there's some programming chat going on there right now, actually.
[06:47] <cybersick> so i think i must type a specific command to the setup, but i dont know what to do
[06:47] <encompass> BrianHH: try this... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77387&highlight=Palm+T5
[06:48] <BrianHH> Thanks, encompass.  I'll check it out. :)
[06:48] <jcapote> right now im running 6.06 lts, and just ran some updates, what happens june 1st when it comes out, will it just be a small update away, or will it be this huge deal
[06:48] <encompass> Madpilot: thanks
[06:49] <gnu2it2> any recomendations on a point of sale app? real store and internet storefront
[06:49] <cybersick> ok lets try work something different for me then
[06:49] <jcapote> anyone?
[06:49] <cybersick> what happens if i try to install a 32-bit version in my 64-bit computer??
[06:50] <cgardner> has anyone got wpa_supplicant working using the ipw driver?
[06:50] <wenko> usually a melt down
[06:50] <Some_Person> I love Ubuntu
[06:50] <wenko> same
[06:50] <SurfnKid> so do I =D
[06:50] <encompass> Me too Some_Person
[06:50] <cybersick> me too
[06:50] <cybersick> but i want it working on my 64-bit computeer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[06:50] <wenko> all who love ubuntu in the feek'n #ubuntu channel raise your hnd   :P
[06:50] <crimsun> cybersick: you can install 32-bit ubuntu on a 64-bit x86_64ish
[06:50] <SurfnKid> haha
[06:51] <crimsun> cgardner: I do.
[06:51] <cybersick> crimsun: what's x86_64ish?
[06:51] <crimsun> cybersick: an amd64 or emt64
[06:51] <cgardner> crumsun, did you get the Operation not Supported messages at all?
[06:51] <Will123> yah, mine is about is about through with installing. i'm mostly worried about getting my little wifi card to work (laptop)
[06:51] <crimsun> cgardner: no, wpasupplicant works fine under dapper on this thinkpad x41-2527
[06:52] <cybersick> crimsun: i'm not sure if thats mine. i have a pentium4 ht 3.4ghz 64bit 2mb cache
[06:52] <crimsun> cybersick: that's emt64
[06:52] <cgardner> crimsun: did you just follow the instructions on the wiki?
[06:52] <cybersick> crimsun: ok
[06:52] <cybersick> crimsun: but what can i do about the DVD-RW drive?
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> cgardner: I never tried wpa_supplicant on Breezy or through cli, but with the NetworkManager applet on Dapper on this Thinkpad WPA works fine.
[06:53] <Will123> cgardner, is gardner your last name? Haha
[06:53] <cybersick> crimsun: its weird how it simply stop working right
[06:53] <crimsun> cgardner: no, I'm fairly familiar w/ wpasupplicant, so I used the included documentation. I don't use network-manager.
[06:53] <wenko> It makes a GREAT drink holder!
[06:53] <tian> who is asper about sound card here?????
[06:53] <crimsun> cgardner: that's an awfully vague question
[06:53] <crimsun> tian: "asper"?
[06:54] <tian> yea
[06:54] <crimsun> tian: do you need assistance with sound?
[06:54] <cgardner> crimsun: my original one?  I just was curious as to whether it was done.
[06:54] <wenko> "asper" in
[06:54] <tian> i mean expert
[06:54] <wenko> :P
[06:54] <crimsun> cgardner: "the original one"?
[06:54] <crimsun> tian: there are no experts, but there are knowledgeable people. Just ask.
[06:56] <tian> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185044
[06:56] <james_xx> crimsun, could you tell me again what to type in the terminal to upgrsde from xubuntu breezy to xubuntu dapper?
[06:56] <tian> i post my question there
[06:56] <SurfnKid> Some_person I just tested my ISP, they re-enabled sending mail
[06:56] <wormsarm> pals
[06:56] <wormsarm> where can I download winex
[06:57] <wormsarm> I don't find it on synaptics
[06:57] <BrianHH> encompass:  I screwed something up and gpilot won't run now...Damn.
[06:57] <tian> any idea?
[06:57] <SurfnKid> !smtp server
[06:57] <ubotu> SurfnKid: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:57] <Some_Person> ,Yay! My mIRC script works in WINE
[06:57] <SurfnKid> can someone suggest a good smtp-server ??
[06:57] <crimsun> tian: please be patient, we can't read your mind
[06:57] <Some_Person> WINE is great!
[06:58] <tian> ok
[06:58] <wormsarm> some_person
[06:58] <wormsarm> maybe you runned worms armageddon on wine??
[06:58] <Will123> is WINE like a seperate program i will have to download
[06:58] <Some_Person> yes
[06:58] <Some_Person> Get the .deb file
[06:58] <stjepan> how to get "computer" menu in gnome?
[06:59] <crimsun> james_xx: info was sent (again) to you
[06:59] <Will123> well, i'll have to learn how to install it. haha
[06:59] <majd> Hi
[06:59] <majd> i just followed the tutorial at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Installing_Dapper.27s_Included_Driver_.288.25.18.29 to install my ati driver,
[06:59] <Some_Person> Will123: sudo dpkg --install /path/to/file.deb
[06:59] <crimsun> tian: pastebin ``amixer'' output
[06:59] <majd> but when i run flgrxinfo, i get a whole lot of API errors
[06:59] <majd> such as: [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for GenerateMipmapEXT
[06:59] <audisam> bimberi: I think i found the problem
[06:59] <Some_Person> g2g
[06:59] <BrianHH> Is gnome-pilot one package?  I think I need to nuke it and start over...
[06:59] <Some_Person> bye
[06:59] <Will123> thanks
[07:00] <wormsarm> some_person
[07:00] <wormsarm> omg
[07:00] <audisam> bimberi:   it ask me to do this first sudo mysql -u root
[07:01] <audisam> bimberi:   it ask me to do this first   ***  to set the password for sql  root user
[07:01] <stjepan> How to get this menu "Computer" in the top left corner? http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/img/transparency1.jpg
[07:01] <tian> i just did
[07:02] <janus112> hhallo
[07:02] <crimsun> tian: url?
[07:03] <tian> ?
[07:03] <tian> what's that mean?
[07:03] <crimsun> tian: where did you paste the info?
[07:03] <torpedo|dog> stjepan: If I'm not mistaken, that's the "Main Menu", however, Applications/Places/System fulfills the same role.
[07:03] <tian> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071079#post1071079
[07:04] <stjepan> torpedo|dog: it's not.
[07:04] <torpedo|dog> I'm mistaken :)
[07:04] <stjepan> torpedo|dog: see http://img287.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4xi.png
[07:04] <torpedo|dog> I guess that's some applet you have to get.
[07:05] <Madpilot> stjepan, that must be a customized version of Gnome
[07:05] <crimsun> tian: amixer set 'Surround' on && amixer set 'Surround' 77% && amixer set 'Center' on && amixer set 'Center' 77% && amixer set 'LFE' on && amixer set 'LFE' 77% && amixer set 'Side' on && amixer set 'Side' 77%
[07:05] <stjepan> Madpilot: it's SuSE :)
[07:06] <tian> so??
[07:06] <Madpilot> right, running a custom version of Gnome as the desktop
[07:06] <tian> what should i do?
[07:06] <crimsun> tian: copy and paste what I just gave you into a Terminal
[07:06] <tian> ok, i did what you said
[07:07] <crimsun> tian: now test with a movie or something
[07:07] <tian> yessssssss
[07:07] <stjepan> anyhone here good at GIMP?
[07:07] <tian> they all works now
[07:08] <tian> thanks a lot
[07:08] <SurfnKid> not good at GIMP                                           yet
[07:08] <tian> onemore
[07:08] <Will123> woo hoo Ubuntu is finished installing ;D i like on the nifty sounds, haha
[07:09] <tian> how could i adjust the volume for each speaker?
[07:09] <crimsun> tian: use the volume control in the panel
[07:10] <Will123> maybe ubuntu won't cause my laptop to overheat and burn my legs.. :(
[07:11] <detectivecyborg> is there any terminal for ubuntu live cd?
[07:11] <tian> how?
[07:11] <torpedo|dog> detectivecyborg: Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[07:11] <crimsun> tian: secondary-click the volume control and choose Open..
[07:11] <detectivecyborg> I just came fro gentoo, and I like Ubuntu, much less hassels, although I only judging by the looks
[07:12] <detectivecyborg> cool thanks
[07:12] <majd> i just followed the tutorial at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Installing_Dapper.27s_Included_Driver_.288.25.18.29 to install my ati driver,
[07:12] <majd> but when i run flgrxinfo, i get a whole lot of API errors
[07:12] <majd> such as: [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for GenerateMipmapEXT
[07:12] <tian> what's PCM mean?
[07:12] <Fly_Molo> i cant get my internet working on my copy of ubuntu
[07:14] <Will123> i can't either : /
[07:14] <detectivecyborg> DSL?
[07:14] <Will123> i'm using on of those laptop wifi cards
[07:14] <jrsims> I heard there would be drop-shadows in Dapper/Gnome. That true?
[07:14] <Will123> that go into the side? anyone know where i can get some info into installing them properly?
[07:15] <detectivecyborg> I have DSL all I had to do it enter the DNS into networking properties
[07:15] <tian> and i cant install motherbord, Video and sound dirver for winXP on VMWare, is that just the way it is?
[07:15] <intelikey> i'm back
[07:15] <detectivecyborg> and I love it
[07:15] <jrsims> Will123: you need to read about PCMCIA. Wish I had a link or knew how to kick you in the right direction, but you can start there. PCMIA is the slot your putting your wifi card into.
[07:15] <jrsims> sorry. PCMCIA
[07:15] <RobNyc> !ati
[07:15] <ubotu> somebody said ati was http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:15] <llTUX> i just installed ubuntu on a powermac g4 and the microphone doesnt seem to be enabled, it is enabled in the mixers but all mute in "effect"
[07:16] <Will123> oh, thanks. haha, i don't know a lot of the termonology
[07:16] <SurfnKid> how can i see the postfix smtp config?
[07:16] <trekna> Hello peoples
[07:16] <jrsims> Will123: yeah, if you do a search on the ubuntu forums, I'm sure there's an answer. Shouldn't be too hard.
[07:17] <Fly_Molo> can someone help me setup my ATi driver files on Ubuntu?
[07:17] <majd> Fly_Molo, breezy?
[07:17] <detectivecyborg> will there be a ubuntu install comming out soon?
[07:18] <SurfnKid> nevermind i found smtp documents on it
[07:18] <majd> Fly_Molo,  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[07:18] <Fly_Molo> Majd: yes
[07:18] <majd> that worked for me in breezy
[07:18] <siccness> Anyone know how long GnomeBaker's supposed to take when blanking a cdrw?
[07:18] <Fly_Molo> thank you
[07:18] <intelikey> detectivecyborg dapper
[07:19] <stjepan> will any GIMPer do me a little favour?
[07:20] <SurfnKid> can anyone see this http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[07:21] <jrsims> anyone know if there's a repository with Bluefish?
[07:21] <intelikey> SurfnKid looks like it's gonna time out
[07:22] <distanceisdeath> I want to use Frostwire.  But it isn't starting up.  What to do?
[07:22] <trekna>  I've just recently put ubuntu (5.10)  and have been trying to set things up so I can watch the occasional dvd on it. So far I've gotten dvds to play, but they are choppy, not very choppy, but enough to be an annoyance.
[07:22] <matth-w> Hello, question. Is there a client for msn messenger that has support for webcam broadcast and recive?
[07:22] <trekna> er... on my av3715 that is
[07:24] <SurfnKid> i need to find info on postfix ill look some more
[07:25] <cara> Hi all
[07:27] <intelikey> SurfnKid that host is down  can't ping it.
[07:27] <cara> I'm trying to find some information regarding the ubuntu livecd
[07:27] <intelikey> cara i don't know anything.  but you can ask
[07:27] <cara> I want to change some information in the xorg.conf but can't because I'm not sure what the root password is and how to set it.  I thought maybe it was like knoppix with no password but that's not the case.
[07:28] <intelikey> cara there isn't one
[07:28] <intelikey> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:28] <fLy-> alternatively: sudo passwd root
[07:28] <cara> hmm I dind't think about that
[07:28] <fLy-> to set one
[07:28] <cara> lol
[07:28] <cara> man
[07:28] <cara> serious brain farts
[07:29] <intelikey> !root
[07:29] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:29] <cara> Hmm
[07:29] <fLy-> works for me
[07:29] <cara> ok because I was looking on the ubunto site for some info but got lost lol
[07:29] <cara> so its in the wiki
[07:30] <jrsims> what's the "universe" repository for?
[07:30] <intelikey> other planets ???
[07:30] <fLy-> not good enough
[07:30] <fLy-> repent sinner!
[07:30] <Kholerabbi> Is dapper released June 1st?
[07:30] <bimberi> !components
[07:30] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[07:30] <bimberi> Kholerabbi: yes
[07:31] <intelikey> june one'st
[07:32] <cara> bb in ubuntu
[07:32] <Healot> first
[07:32] <cara> later
[07:33] <distanceisdeath> Can anyone give me step by step instructions on installing java.  No guides please.  Message me in private.
[07:33] <trekna> Farscape, it hates me.
[07:34] <Kholerabbi> if I wanted to access root files or folders through nautilus, I would have to upon nautilus through the terminal? e.g sudo nautilus???
[07:35] <intelikey> gksudo nautilus
[07:35] <intelikey> Kholerabbi if you use sudo you will hose things
[07:35] <ctothej> need some help tweaking dual head config with ati driver...
[07:35] <Kholerabbi> intelikey: pardon?
[07:35] <intelikey> gksudo nautilus
[07:35] <ctothej> i cant move applications between screens..
[07:36] <bimberi> !gksudo
[07:36] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[07:36] <bimberi> Kholerabbi: ^^^
[07:36] <RobNyc> i dont see any smp kernesl
[07:36] <RobNyc> kernels*
[07:36] <richiefrich> what do u see ?
[07:36] <richiefrich>  /EXEC -o uname -a
[07:37] <RobNyc> Linux ax-desktop 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:37] <Kholerabbi> ok gk, but say I have entered the password, and so its activated for 15 minutes, dose that meen nautilus will have privileges?
[07:37] <RobNyc> cpu[1 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz @ 3.00GHz w/ 1024 KB L2 Cache] 
[07:37] <crimsun> RobNyc: in dapper we use smp alternatives, which does detection at boot time.
[07:37] <intelikey> linux-686-smp - Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
[07:37] <intelikey> linux-k7-smp - Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7 SMP.
[07:37] <richiefrich> Linux gentoo 2.6.16-gentoo-r4 #4 PREEMPT Mon May 29 22:30:19 EDT 2006 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz GNU/Linux
[07:37] <Kholerabbi> ..even if I open it normally
[07:37] <richiefrich> wrong box
[07:37] <RobNyc> i dont even see it in the package maanger
[07:37] <crimsun> RobNyc: thus there's no need to have separate -smp flavours. They're all smp enabled.
[07:37] <richiefrich> RobNyc u can edit it yourself
[07:37] <RobNyc> how come my cpuinfo doesnt show up as 2x then :)
[07:38] <intelikey> Kholerabbi no
[07:39] <Kholerabbi> OK thanks, and could someone give me more detail on what would happen IF I did sudo on a gtk app?? and how I could fix it, just in case?
[07:39] <RobNyc> !ati
[07:39] <ubotu> hmm... ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:39] <vinboy>  is there any way to improve java's performance?
[07:40] <RobNyc> !smp
[07:40] <ubotu> I heard smp is Symmetric Multi Processing. The x86 architecture way of using multiple CPUs in one computer.
[07:40] <Healot> vinboy: ask Sun to do that
[07:40] <vinboy> lol
[07:40] <vinboy> ok
[07:40] <crimsun> RobNyc: getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN
[07:40] <vinboy> i'll try to convince them
[07:40] <Will123> okay, so for some devices do i have to download the original driver? : /
[07:41] <RobNyc> Cr0w-, where
[07:41] <RobNyc> crimsun, *
[07:41] <crimsun> RobNyc: at a terminal
[07:42] <imichel> my firefox can't function
[07:42] <imichel> could you help me
[07:42] <lwarimav> Alloooo
[07:42] <imichel> yes
[07:42] <intelikey> Will123 there are propriatary hardwares that have no open source support.  yes.    don't you just love copy rights and patens
[07:42] <matth-w> Hello, question. Is there a client for msn messenger that has support for webcam broadcast and recive?
[07:43] <RobNyc> crimsun, it showed
[07:43] <RobNyc> 1
[07:43] <crimsun> RobNyc: and uname -r ?
[07:43] <RobNyc> 2.6.15-23-386
[07:43] <Will123> haha, well, i wasn't sure. i didn't think they'd work at all with Ubuntu.
[07:44] <lwarimav> I have a question, after installing an extention, I found out that I couldn't open my firefox again.... What is the problem????
[07:44] <crimsun> RobNyc: so install -686
[07:44] <Healot> copyrights and patents are okay, just the licensing sucks
[07:44] <RobNyc> crimsun, alright
[07:44] <RobNyc> brb
[07:44] <intelikey> Healot capitalist !
[07:45] <Healot> I am :)
[07:45] <Will123> haha
[07:46] <DarkTower> Capitalism and patents are fine, but not when they impinge on advancement of industry and technology
[07:46] <intelikey> well at least you know what you are.   i find life so confusing, i'm not even sure what i am.....
[07:46] <sistar> my external dvd writer has recently decided to stop writing, and isn't mounting that reliabley either. Any tips on reconfigureing it?
[07:47] <lwarimav> firefox doesn't work
[07:47] <Will123> oh man, i hope my flashdrive will work with ubuntu :(
[07:47] <intelikey> farous heh  na
[07:47] <Healot> Will123: it will
[07:47] <DarkTower> Like the amazon One Click. Yeh there's a new technology amazon, clicking something once
[07:47] <farous> good for i am done with philo for today ;)
[07:47] <Mempf> hey guys
[07:48] <Mempf> im haivn problems isntallig flashplugin-nonfree on my laptop
[07:48] <lwarimav> mama mia
[07:48] <DarkTower> K ill stop this isnt the place
[07:48] <Mempf> the install just hangs at setting up flashplugin-nonfree
[07:48] <RobNyc> ctothej, it seems with ati's 8.25 drivers i get higher fps than with ubuntu's 8.24 drivers
[07:48] <imichel> Mempf, I need your help
[07:49] <Mempf> my help?
[07:49] <intelikey> oh go on DarkTower,  it's nice to see some one else rant for a change....
[07:49] <DarkTower> RobNyc: Of course, there from the manufacturer, they would be better
[07:49] <imichel> Yeh
[07:49] <Mempf> go on
[07:49] <RobNyc> DarkTower, supposely somebody said open are better
[07:49] <RobNyc> than binary
[07:49] <farous> Mempf: i had the same prob. I downloaded flash from their site and ran the installer. all works fine now
[07:49] <DarkTower> intelikey: hehe thx for the support. But you havent seen me rant lol. Im stopping while im ahead
[07:49] <Will123> omg. that's neat. the flashdrive loads fast.. ooh i'm liking this :)
[07:49] <Mempf> the thing is
[07:50] <imichel> My firefox doesn't work
[07:50] <Mempf> that wont work for me/us
[07:50] <Mempf> im helping work on automatix
[07:50] <Mempf> which uses the flashplugin-nonfree
[07:50] <DarkTower> RobNyc: Well better as in free as in speech, but it's hard to match the manufacturer in terms of video cards. I could be wrong
[07:50] <farous> imichel: did you just upgrade?
[07:50] <RobNyc> thanks im gonna try the 8.25 now since i gotta install the 686 kernel
[07:51] <RobNyc> !xgl
[07:51] <administrador> hola    alguien  que  hable espaol[07:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[07:51] <sistar> how do I get into kudzu or the like? and will that help?
[07:51] <administrador> alguien   que  habe spaol
[07:51] <intelikey> imichel doesn't work is kinda open ended isn't it ?     open a terminal and type mozilla-firefox   or what ever the name is.  and show us the error message
[07:51] <administrador> alguien   que  habe spaol
[07:51] <administrador> alguien   que  habe spaol
[07:52] <DarkTower> Don't start me on Cadbury chocolate. They patented the color purple lol!
[07:52] <farous> RobNyc: the glitches are still there the native driver ati now support 3-d accel now just 20% lower than the prop ati one
[07:52] <administrador> alguien   que  habe spaol
[07:52] <Mortal> Can I make split-screen in Nautilus?
[07:52] <Healot> !es
[07:52] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:52] <Mortal> !es
[07:52] <Fly_Molo> how do you install the ati driver as a superuser
[07:52] <RobNyc> farous, yea i think so
[07:52] <Fly_Molo> im trying to install the ati driver and its telling me that i need to be a superuser
[07:52] <administrador> ubotu   hablais  espaol
[07:52] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, administrador
[07:52] <intelikey> Fly_Molo sudo
[07:52] <blanky> !ubotu
[07:52] <administrador> ubotu   hablais  espaol
[07:52] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[07:52] <farous> Fly_Molo: tupe sudo first before apt-get
[07:52] <blanky> administrador, que quieres
[07:52] <RobNyc> Fly_Molo, sudo su
[07:53] <intelikey> sudo -i
[07:53] <Fly_Molo> thanks
[07:53] <sistar> ne thoughts?
[07:53] <Mortal> Can I make split-screen in Nautilus?
[07:53] <cara> ok
[07:53] <cara> got it
[07:54] <RobNyc> crimsun, i searched for linux-686 and i saw the linux-686-smp kernels now
[07:54] <Fly_Molo> ok but this is the script im using:
[07:54] <crimsun> RobNyc: they're just placeholders
[07:54] <RobNyc> i thought i saw the default kernel showing as smp before
[07:54] <RobNyc> not on this install, another install i had done a few days ago
[07:54] <crimsun> RobNyc: crimsun@garnish:~$ uname -r
[07:54] <crimsun> 2.6.15-23-686
[07:55] <crimsun> getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN -> 1
[07:55] <RobNyc> 2.6.15-23-386
[07:55] <RobNyc> same
[07:55] <farous> Fly_Molo: there is a howto on the forums for installing from the ati drivers you download search for it
[07:55] <crimsun> [4294668.854000]  SMP alternatives: switching to UP code
[07:55] <intelikey> robnyc i posted the name ^  way up when you first asked.
[07:55] <lwarimav> can anyone her say how to restart my firefox?????
[07:55] <Fly_Molo> sudo apt-get install ati-driver-installer-8.25.18-x86_64.run
[07:55] <RobNyc> intelikey, ur search results?
[07:55] <intelikey> linux-686-smp - Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
[07:55] <Fly_Molo> im running that script and its not working
[07:55] <farous> lwarimav: tell us what was the prob
[07:55] <administrador> ubotu   hablais  espaol
[07:55] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, administrador
[07:55] <TiG4> -- Are there any other multiple download support bit torrent clients besides Azureus that someone can recommend to me? ---
[07:55] <RobNyc> Fly_Molo, wrong
[07:55] <administrador> sdfdf
[07:55] <RobNyc> follow the guide
[07:55] <administrador> dsfds
[07:55] <majd> what can i use to test if i have 3d acceleration working?
[07:55] <RobNyc> majd, glxgears
[07:56] <farous> Fly_Molo:  no sudo ./ati .... ..
[07:56] <TiG4> majd, glxgears
[07:56] <blanky> administrador, ya callate no? no dices lo que quieres, y dudo que habla espanol
[07:56] <blanky> !spanish
[07:56] <ubotu> blanky: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:56] <RobNyc> glxgears -printfp
[07:56] <farous> but why not install from the rops
[07:56] <RobNyc> glxgears -printfps*
[07:56] <blanky> !espanol
[07:56] <ubotu> blanky: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:56] <TiG4> -- Are there any other multiple download support bit torrent clients besides Azureus that someone can recommend to me? ---
[07:56] <blanky> !ubuntu-es
[07:56] <ubotu> blanky: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:56] <majd> RobNyc, do they have to be moving smoothly?
[07:56] <majd> they're very choppy
[07:56] <blanky> !#ubuntu-es
[07:56] <ubotu> blanky: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:56] <RobNyc> majd, yup
[07:56] <lwarimav> Well I have install som extentions .....then after i tried to restart it does work
[07:56] <RobNyc> if u get 1000 + u prob have 3d
[07:56] <majd> bah
[07:56] <sistar> I need to backup stuff, and my burners cactus. How do I reconfig it?
[07:56] <TiG4> 'majd, what kinda video card do you have?
[07:56] <intelikey> ubotu bot with a cat !!!
[07:56] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[07:56] <TiG4> majd, what kinda video card do you have?
[07:56] <Fly_Molo> what would be the correct script?
[07:56] <majd> ATI Radeon 9200
[07:56] <majd> i had it working before
[07:56] <jmworx> Are removable CD drives supposed to be supported in Ubuntu (5.10). If so, how?
[07:56] <farous> majd type glxinfo and see if rendering is on
[07:57] <TiG4> majd, have you installed the drivers correctly?
[07:57] <majd> i formatted, followed the same tutorial, and didn't work
[07:57] <farous> majd: glxinfo |grep rend
[07:57] <jmworx> ("removable" applies to the drive of course!)
[07:57] <TiG4> majd, did you install dapper or breezy
[07:57] <TiG4> ?
[07:57] <TiG4> -- Are there any other multiple download support bit torrent clients besides Azureus that someone can recommend to me? ---
[07:57] <RobNyc> brb new kernel
[07:57] <majd> farous, i see the gearshttp://pastebin.com/748504
[07:57] <Will123> okay, where can i learn to install this driver? it is in .exe
[07:57] <majd> there
[07:58] <majd> TiG4, dapper
[07:58] <MTecknology> I'm installing Ubuntu beside my Windows install. I downloaded the correct drievers for my wireless and the rigth software. I did the command ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf and then ndiswrapper -m with the result 'moprobe config already contains alias directive' I tried to skip that and do modprobe ndiswrapper and got the result 'FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.'
[07:58] <TiG4> majd, is your card supported in dapper? Have you checked if anyone else has it working
[07:58] <majd> TiG4, i got it working before
[07:58] <majd> i know it works
[07:58] <TiG4> majd, in dapper?
[07:58] <majd> yeah
[07:58] <MTecknology> o yea, i'm having trouble getting wireless setup in ubuntu
[07:58] <TiG4> majd, oh...
[07:58] <farous> majd it is not turned on you do not have 3d accel
[07:59] <TiG4> majd, pci or agp?
[07:59] <majd> pci
[07:59] <Will123> hey MT, I am too!
[07:59] <majd> grr
[07:59] <Will123> : /
[07:59] <TiG4> majd, check lspci, make sure that the card is being recognized
[07:59] <MTecknology> Will123, what have you tried
[07:59] <crysalis> is there a way to modify x-chat so that it only shows the text box so that it look apart of the desktop wallpaper?
[07:59] <farous> majd which flgrx drives you installed the one from the repos or from the ati website
[07:59] <TiG4> majd, check dmesg,make sure there are no errors from the card
[07:59] <TiG4> -- Are there any other multiple download support bit torrent clients besides Azureus that someone can recommend to me? ---
[07:59] <Will123> nothing yet, i just got it installed
[07:59] <Will123> what card do you have btw?
[08:00] <MTecknology> Broadcom
[08:00] <majd> farous, i downloaded a weird one from the tutorial at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Installing_Dapper.27s_Included_Driver_.288.25.18.29
[08:00] <Will123> oh.. i have linksys WPC11
[08:00] <majd> i followed method 2 by the wy
[08:00] <majd> *way
[08:00] <farous> majd use the ones in the repos they work just fine
[08:00] <MTecknology> well, you'll probably have better luck
[08:00] <farous> majd there is an extra step you need in it
[08:00] <majd> farous, just install fglrx from synaptic?
[08:00] <farous> let me see
[08:00] <clayton> is dapper still coming out june 1st?
[08:00] <crimsun> clayton: yes.
[08:01] <clayton> sweet
[08:01] <clayton> damnit, hold on, my name is messed up
[08:01] <intelikey> crysalis you could do it with a borderless terminal and bx    even with transparent
[08:01] <DarkTower> cant wait
[08:01] <farous> majd you installed from synaptic did you uninstall the ones you had with from the howto
[08:01] <MTecknology> so, nobody get's to help me out??
[08:01] <fiendskull9> ok
[08:01] <fiendskull9> now im good
[08:01] <lwarimav> fv
[08:01] <majd> farous, yeah
[08:01] <Will123> have you tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiBroadcomDriver?highlight=%28driver%29
[08:02] <MTecknology> nope
[08:02] <lwarimav> it doen work
[08:02] <lwarimav> yep
[08:02] <farous> majd did you install the linux-restricted-modules package too
[08:02] <intelikey> MTecknology i've never played with ndis
[08:02] <farous> majd sudo apt-ge install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[08:02] <lwarimav> i do not know
[08:02] <tulga> I installed xgl on kubuntu. working well expect empty taskbar and application hasn't titlebar. howto fix these problems?
[08:03] <majd> farous, just a sec
[08:04] <RobNyc> cpu[2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz @ 3.00GHz w/ 1024 KB L2 Cache] 
[08:04] <RobNyc> 2.6.15-23-686
[08:04] <majd> farous, ok i already had that restricted modules
[08:04] <RobNyc> this is better
[08:04] <intelikey> tulga have you asked in #kubuntu ?
[08:04] <MTecknology> O!!! I just remembered the when I tested Dapper it detected my wireless just fine - although it did have trouble setting it up... i would try to upgrade except that i can't upgrade w/o internet
[08:04] <jmworx> OK, I guess I'll change my question... how do I get my cdrom to work *at all*. It's a sata machine, so I'm guess that would be the problem...
[08:04] <farous> majd: did you restart X after you did the installation
[08:04] <MTecknology> which has to be over wireless
[08:05] <majd> yeah
[08:05] <jmworx> the gnome mount utils see there's a drive but there's no entry in /dev for it (using udev)
[08:05] <farous> majd check if you removed the fglrx-kernel package use synaptic and choose completely remove
[08:05] <MTecknology> well,m
[08:06] <Will123> when i use lspci it lists device names that my computer doesn't use :(
[08:06] <majd> farous, should i remove fglrx-control too? just all the ones installed including xorg-driver-fglrx and what not?
[08:06] <intelikey> jmworx /dev/.static/dev/
[08:06] <MTecknology> well, off to test a link - hope it works and my next chat is using ubuntu
[08:06] <farous> no just the kernel-fglrx one
[08:06] <majd> or just the kernel and the kernel source?
[08:06] <majd> ok
[08:07] <farous> majd you should have removed everything you installed from the dowloaded ati package
[08:07] <farous> i think you did not clean everything up properly
[08:07] <SurfnKid> how can i know if my smtp server is setup? i checked Synaptic and postfix is up, but i cant send mail to 127.0.0.1
[08:07] <rnicolas> how can i get ubuntu enterprise?
[08:07] <majd> i'm confused...i think i'm just gonna do a fresh install
[08:08] <farous> no need majd
[08:08] <majd> haven't done anythign since my last one
[08:08] <jmworx> intelikey: I see an scd0 entry in /dev/.static/dev/, but opening it gives me "No such device or address"
[08:08] <burepe2> majd what s the prob
[08:08] <burepe2> ?
[08:08] <SurfnKid> majd what ATI card is it
[08:08] <majd> radeon 9200
[08:08] <rnicolas> how can i get ubuntu enterprise edition?
[08:08] <farous> majd you can uninustall all the fglrx drivers. and reinstall from the repos and reboot
[08:08] <SurfnKid> I got a 9600
[08:08] <intelikey> jmworx it's an scsi cdrom ?
[08:08] <jmworx> Yet the gnome diskmounter sees I've got a drive
[08:08] <SurfnKid> but i dont have it fully setup yet
[08:08] <jmworx> intelikey: sata, but I guess it shows up as scd0
[08:09] <jmworx> intelikey: my hd definitely shows up as /dev/sda and it's a sata drive (Dell D810 laptop)
[08:09] <majd> farous, in the tutorial page, it seems that i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-kernel-source and fglrx-control
[08:09] <burepe2> can anyone tell me or point me to a faq that explains how to remotely log in to my comp from a windows comp?
[08:09] <PPower> i know this is stupid but i am going to install dapper rc today with espresso. is there anything i need to know
[08:09] <majd> should i uninstall those too from synaptic?
[08:09] <farous> majd i had the new ati drivers installed then i prefered the open source ati one and i still have 3-d accel
[08:09] <SurfnKid> burepe2 try VNC
[08:09] <SurfnKid> oh log in sorry
[08:10] <SurfnKid> that i dont know
[08:10] <zcat[1] > this computer has an SiS video card.. can I get any 3d from it at all?
[08:10] <burepe2> I mean I just want to use my comp from another comp
[08:10] <burepe2> what do I do with vnc?
[08:10] <Will123> which driver version do i need? Linux kernel 2.6.X? is that what comes with ubuntu?
[08:10] <farous> majd if you want you can install all fglrx drivers. forget the howto for the 8.24 i think is in the repos you can then just reinstall them from the official ubuntu repos
[08:11] <burepe2> I am not sure how to set that stuff up
[08:11] <majd> ok
[08:11] <farous> majd sorr i ment if you want you can un-install all fglrx drivers. forget the howto for the 8.24 i think is in the repos you can then just reinstall them from the official ubuntu repos
[08:11] <intelikey> jmworx try this ---> for this in `ls -1 /dev/hd? 2>/dev/null && ls -1 /dev/scd? 2>/dev/null ` ;do eject $this 2>/dev/null && echo $this ;done
[08:12] <humbolt> I still can't find no XEN kernel in ubuntu?!
[08:12] <humbolt> I thought XEN will be part of the game?
[08:12] <SurfnKid> burepe2 vnc is to manage your pc remotely, but you want to log in to control as if you were on it?
[08:12] <intelikey> jmworx orrr add the /dev/.static
[08:12] <majd> farous, ok now when i typ fgrlxinfo i get command not found, does that mean i uninstalled successfully?
[08:12] <burepe2> surfnkid
[08:12] <burepe2>  oops
[08:12] <intelikey> jmworx try this ---> for this in `ls -1 /dev/.static/dev/hd? 2>/dev/null && ls -1 /dev/.static/dev/scd? 2>/dev/null ` ;do eject $this 2>/dev/null && echo $this ;done
[08:12] <SurfnKid> i guess VNC, but thru linux im sure it can do a lot more, ask the experts here :)
[08:12] <burepe2> what is the difference?
[08:13] <farous> check with synaptic. uninustall the linux-restricted-modules package too and reinstall it later
[08:13] <majd> is there a vnc client I can use on the internet anywhere?
[08:13] <SurfnKid> yes siree
[08:13] <SurfnKid> i know how to set it up in WXP, havent learned how to in Ubuntu
[08:14] <majd> farous, when i "completely remove" linux-restricted modules it asks me to remove linux-386
[08:14] <SurfnKid> i have the client installed not the server
[08:14] <majd> i shouldn't do that right?
[08:14] <jmworx> intelikey: nothing found
[08:14] <bimberi> majd: one is installed by default, Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client (Protocol VNC)
[08:14] <majd> bimberi, yeah but it doesn't work
[08:14] <Will123> where can i learn to install a linux driver?
[08:14] <intelikey> jmworx hmmmmm
[08:14] <jmworx> intelikey: I see this in my log: "ata2(0): WARNING: ATAPI is disabled, device ignored."
[08:14] <jmworx> sure doesn't look good.
[08:14] <farous> majd: it is a meta package no harm to remove it and you can install it later for update purposes
[08:14] <SurfnKid> burepe2 yes use that
[08:15] <SurfnKid> thats the client
[08:15] <majd> ok i thought i was uninstalling linux from ubuntu
[08:15] <burepe2> what? the Terminal Server Client?
[08:15] <burepe2> but how do i use it?
[08:15] <SurfnKid> TSC,VNC
[08:15] <farous> majd wait a min
[08:15] <burepe2> That is what I need help with
[08:15] <SurfnKid> you want to log in to another machien?
[08:15] <majd> burepe2, it's extremely easy
[08:15] <SurfnKid> or viceversa
[08:16] <burepe2> really?
[08:16] <majd> you know the local ip of the computer with the vnc server?
[08:16] <farous> majd yah it is a meta pcakge
[08:16] <burepe2> from a windows comp to my ubuntu
[08:16] <SurfnKid> ah
[08:16] <SurfnKid> that i dont know
[08:16] <SurfnKid> majd take over :P
[08:16] <bimberi> majd: doesn't work?
[08:16] <burepe2> majd vnc server is my ubuntu comp?
[08:16] <majd> i'm no expert but here's how i did it
[08:16] <majd> burepe2, yeah
[08:16] <burepe2> one sec
[08:16] <majd> go to System>Preferences>Remote Desktop
[08:16] <burepe2> the internal or external?
[08:17] <majd> internal
[08:17] <intelikey> hehhe   modprobe sata_....... errr something
[08:17] <jmworx> intelikey: I'll reboot and try another kernel just in case. brb
[08:17] <majd> enable it there
[08:17] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Hello room!
[08:17] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Is anyone in here this morning?
[08:17] <PPower> yup
[08:18] <majd> burepe2, get it?
[08:18] <SurfnKid> majd I got it
[08:18] <SurfnKid> sheesh that was difficult
[08:18] <burepe2> ok got it
[08:18] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Oh good! I'm so new to Ubuntu I'm so sorry if this is REALLY n00bish, but can you tell me a good site to find reference n00b guide like installing programs and such?
[08:18] <burepe2> now what?
[08:18] <majd> ok now on windows
[08:18] <burepe2> cool
[08:18] <burepe2> um hun
[08:18] <burepe2> download vnc?
[08:19] <burepe2> or something?
[08:19] <x3on> Coca-Cola_MechJo www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:19] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> VLC media player? That's the same thing I'm trying to install!
[08:19] <burepe2> no
[08:19] <PPower> coca...: some good sites are: www.ubuntuforums.org, www.tuxtalk.org
[08:19] <majd> go download http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ultravnc/tabbed_vncviewer.exe?download
[08:19] <DarkLegacy> I'm looking for a casual IRC chatroom. What would be a good place to look for one?
[08:19] <burepe2> vlc
[08:19] <bimberi> Coca-Cola_MechJo: http://help.ubuntu.com/
[08:19] <intelikey> !info vnc
[08:19] <PPower> coca: www.videolan.org
[08:19] <SurfnKid> =D
[08:20] <burepe2> coca-cola-mechjo you need special repos use this
[08:20] <majd> burepe2, SurfnKid that link takes you to a file "UltraVNC" which is a windows vnc viewer
[08:20] <intelikey> !info vnc-common
[08:20] <ubotu> vnc-common: (Virtual network computing server software), section x11, is optional. Version: 3.3.7-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 58 kB, Installed size: 184 kB
[08:20] <burepe2> !source-o-matic
[08:20] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:20] <PPower> burpee2: there is a guide on the videolan site though im not sure if it is updated for 5.10 or 6.06
[08:20] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Repos?
[08:20] <RobNyc_C> any X1000 ati series users here using xgl ?
[08:20] <GeorgeAScott> arg.. i can't get my soundcard to play anything but static
[08:20] <SurfnKid> majd better than the realvnc website version?
[08:20] <burepe2> coca
[08:20] <MTecknology> aight, so when is dapper being released?
[08:20] <burepe2> hold on
[08:20] <zcat[1] > !dapper
[08:20] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[08:20] <MTecknology> for dload
[08:20] <burepe2> I am in the middle of something
[08:21] <burepe2> I will explain in a second
[08:21] <PPower> ubotu: cheers!
[08:21] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PPower
[08:21] <majd> when you download it run it an make a new connection, use the ip of your ubuntu box and you'r gold
[08:21] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> I'm sorry Burepe2. Screen is moving a bit fast for me.
[08:21] <majd> ok
[08:21] <zcat[1] > !botsnack
[08:21] <ubotu> thanks zcat[1]  :)
[08:21] <majd> SurfnKid, realvnc website version?
[08:21] <burepe2> Just wait a couple min
[08:21] <SurfnKid> yeah ultra? whats the difference
[08:21] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Thanks.
[08:21] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> I'll be here.
[08:21] <DarkLegacy> Get UltraVNC Single Click
[08:21] <majd> i don't know, ultravnc has tabs
[08:21] <DarkLegacy> Best noob VNC solution
[08:21] <majd> i think it's cool
[08:22] <DarkLegacy> Backwards connection from newbie to you
[08:22] <majd> you can also get tightVNC which is extremely lightweight
[08:22] <DarkLegacy> Meaning, router-proof
[08:22] <zcat[1] > so can I download dapper in 6 hours (NZST) or do I have to wait until June 1 UTC?
[08:22] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[08:22] <SurfnKid> nice ill check those out
[08:22] <jmworx> intelikey: looks like yet another kernel bug (was using 2.6.16)
[08:23] <SurfnKid> oh ok its just another viewer, I see
[08:23] <intelikey> jmworx i'm not surprisedddd
[08:23] <majd> yeah
[08:23] <majd> i just need to find a vnc viewer i can use in-browser
[08:23] <majd> like in school and in the library
[08:23] <SurfnKid> perfect for on the go for accessing customers' remote pcs
[08:23] <SurfnKid> um
[08:23] <SurfnKid> regular vnc dude
[08:24] <SurfnKid> to get to your ubuntu or XP box
[08:24] <intelikey> jmworx wait.  you built that kernel.. you disabled ata   the bug is jmworx
[08:24] <zcat[1] > there's a java client in one of the vnc servers.. but I'd suggest just running the plain old vnc program.
[08:24] <SurfnKid> i use the browser to get to my XP box
[08:24] <SurfnKid> zcat yes
[08:24] <intelikey> but i wont tell anyone jmworx
[08:24] <jmworx> intelikey: what do you mean I disabled ata?
[08:25] <majd> zcat[1] , but if i'm in school i can't install/download anything on the computers
[08:25] <zcat[1] > how about a live CD?
[08:25] <SurfnKid> zcat our library doesnt let us access any programs, the java helps a lot
[08:25] <intelikey> the message said it's disabled so ignoring the device....
[08:25] <SurfnKid> i know the feeling majd
[08:25] <SurfnKid> hehe
[08:25] <majd> yeah it's gay
[08:25] <SurfnKid> vewy vewy
[08:25] <jmworx> intelikey: question is who disabled it. Can't remember disabling any of that...
[08:25] <ompaul> !~gay
[08:25] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul
[08:25] <ompaul> !gay
[08:25] <ompaul> !+gay
[08:25] <ubotu> I heard gay is the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess  Some highly ignorant folks think it's an insult of some sort.  Who can tell why?
[08:25] <SurfnKid> oh come on ubotu you do know
[08:25] <Kholerabbi> anyone know a good backgammon game?
[08:26] <intelikey> jmworx i.e.   the kernel compiler did it.
[08:26] <majd> ummmmm
[08:26] <majd> ok
[08:26] <achandra> hello. I was in here a couple of days agao..and someone mentioned an official release for Dapper...anyone know when?
[08:26] <zcat[1] > English is a living language.. to my kids, gay means sad and pathetic.. they don't even associate it with homosexual any more...
[08:26] <SurfnKid> majd I have no clue if vnc java support is enabled on ubuntu, i guess i could try
[08:27] <Kholerabbi> 1 June dapper
[08:27] <SurfnKid> dont think so
[08:27] <majd> zcat[1] , it's not the norm, so i use it to associate to anything that's not the norm
[08:27] <SurfnKid> only on my XP box
[08:27] <majd> or out of place or not as expected
[08:27] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Quick q from the noob, what's VNC please?
[08:27] <jmworx> intelikey: any idea what that option is? strange that my hd worked at all, since it would be using ata as well, no?
[08:27] <SurfnKid> zcat how did you accomplish that, thast what i want my kids to learn
[08:27] <majd> same with "that's weird" "that's retarted" "that's stupid"
[08:28] <intelikey> jmworx no idea.
[08:28] <burepe2> what is the location of sources.list?
[08:28] <bimberi> burepe2: /etc/apt
[08:28] <majd> anyway i got three finals tomorrow...last day of high school :) good night guys
[08:28] <`moses`> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:28] <burepe2> thanks
[08:28] <lnostdal> Coca-Cola_MechJo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VNC .. basically; control a computer from a remote place
[08:28] <intelikey> jmworx maybe the hd is using the bios access.....
[08:28] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Thanks Inostdal.
[08:28] <zcat[1] > no idea.. it's just how the word gets used at school.
[08:28] <TiG4> --- Is it possible for me to record audio that is coming through my speakers in linux... aka my LineOut ---
[08:28] <SurfnKid> ah
[08:29] <rixxon> achandra: 6.06 means it will be released 2006-06-01
[08:29] <SurfnKid> glad
[08:29] <SurfnKid> some kids might take it the wrong way
[08:29] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Yeah take a two sided cord and run it right back to your line in Tig...
[08:29] <burepe2> Coca-Cola_MechJo: check it out. You have Adept which is a package manager. If you give it the right repositories you can get basically any program that you will ever need right from Adept. In order to add those repos (repositories) you need to go here http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic follow the directions and then save the output to /etc/apt/sources.list    You can do that with the command sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list  Then you can 
[08:29] <achandra> rixxon: at least they wont release it like the movie on 6-6-06 lol :)
[08:29] <rixxon> achandra: what?
[08:30] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Do you have the time for me to PM you Burepe2?
[08:30] <zcat[1] > Yeah, I think another five days delay would have been totally appropriate myself...
[08:30] <achandra> rixxon: the omen...the movie is released on that day... :)
[08:30] <burepe2> yeah
[08:30] <rixxon> achandra: lol
[08:30] <zcat[1] > and release it at exactly 06:06:06 in the morning too..
[08:30] <rixxon> isn't omen from the 70s
[08:30] <rixxon> or is this some recreation
[08:31] <semikal> anyone got step by step procedure in installing ubuntu here? am newbie at linux
[08:31] <achandra> right...wouldnt want the distro to be a nightmare...
[08:31] <achandra> lol
[08:31] <burepe2> madj: sorry to keep you hanging. What do I do with the vnc viewer once I download it.
[08:31] <DarkLegacy> Semikal
[08:31] <DarkLegacy> Step 1. Get CD
[08:31] <rixxon> or well they call those 'remakes'
[08:31] <DarkLegacy> Step 2. Install
[08:31] <burepe2> I need host and local host info right?
[08:31] <intelikey> ompaul perhaps it's the third definition....
[08:31] <semikal> lol
[08:31] <rixxon> semikal: you don't need that, the installation is six simple steps
[08:31] <achandra> another quick $ for hollywood..
[08:31] <kameron> is anyone around decent with sound cards, and tv tuner cards?
[08:32] <burepe2> I got some tv tuner experience
[08:32] <SurfnKid> semika1 the hardest part was partitioning my drive, that was it
[08:32] <achandra> kameron: ive used hauppage stuff...if your going to do the MythTv thing..
[08:32] <rixxon> achandra: anyways, they release a new ubuntu version every six month and the version number is based on the release date - so the last version, 5.10, was released 2005-10-01
[08:32] <semikal> ok tnx
[08:32] <SurfnKid> semika1 Burn the Ubuntu ISO DVD if you can or burn the ISO CD and boot to it, follow the steps to install or just to boot, its very straight forward IMO
[08:32] <achandra> rixxon: ahhh....interesting....cool
[08:33] <rixxon> uhm, wasn't it eight months since 2005-10? *confused*
[08:33] <semikal> ok tnx
[08:33] <SurfnKid> yw
[08:33] <semikal> i thought it wasnt gui like XP
[08:33] <SurfnKid> and come back if you get trouble, i know a thing or two :D
[08:33] <SurfnKid> happy and jumpy about it too =D
[08:33] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> I'm sorry about the disconnect, quick question, How do I tell if I've got Breezey, Hoary, or Dapper?
[08:34] <rixxon> i guess they waited two months more for making dapper 'lts'
[08:34] <SurfnKid> semika1 thought so too, it did surprise me when it was gui like
[08:34] <semikal> ok ill be trying ubuntu..
[08:34] <eggzeck> Coca-Cola_MechJo, uname -o
[08:34] <semikal> ok ill be trying ubuntu..
[08:34] <semikal> thanks bud
[08:34] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> What eggzeck?
[08:34] <intelikey> Coca-Cola_MechJo defauld kernel version is one way.   lsb-release is anothen
[08:35] <SurfnKid> semika1 i knew maybe 5 commands barely on linux, barely, but these guys in the chat have been an easy breeze helping out, dont be afraid to ask, good luck
[08:35] <rixxon> achandra: and it would seem it is not neccessarily released first day of the month, 5.10 was released the 13th, apparently
[08:35] <DarkTower> uname -o would only say GNu/Linux
[08:35] <DarkTower> uname -a?
[08:35] <rixxon> achandra: but 6.06 will be released tomorrow, the 1st
[08:35] <achandra> hmm
[08:35] <achandra> Sweet!
[08:35] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> I'm sorry intelikey, assume I have no clue and you'll be right on the money?
[08:35] <rixxon> achandra: final, that is. rc is already out :)
[08:36] <achandra> rixxon: cant wait.. Id love to get it on the laptop....heard they made some improvements to the broadcom native drivers...
[08:36] <rixxon> achandra: heh, don't ask me. this is my third day with ubuntu :>
[08:36] <intelikey> DarkTower eggzeck and Coca-Cola_MechJo  type lsb_release
[08:36] <achandra> rixxon: cool!
[08:36] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Type it where?
[08:37] <intelikey> terminal
[08:37] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> I don't even know how to get to the terminal.
[08:37] <achandra> rixxon: long time suse user... and making a switch.
[08:37] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> I JUST installed.
[08:37] <rixxon> achandra: and i think im in love with an os :s
[08:37] <burepe2> SurfnKid: Hey I am trying to use that vlc thing to access my comp but I'm not sure what the address is? I know the internal ip but don't I need the external too??
[08:37] <achandra> rixxon: cool to here..
[08:37] <achandra> hear
[08:37] <achandra> lol
[08:37] <intelikey> Coca-Cola_MechJo ok  just type this in your chat window.   /exec -o lsb_release
[08:37] <SurfnKid> PM burepe2
[08:37] <rixxon> heh
[08:37] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> LSB Version:	n/a
[08:37] <bimberi> No LSB modules are available.
[08:37] <bimberi> No LSB modules are available.
[08:38] <bimberi> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[08:38] <bimberi> Description:	Ubuntu (The Dapper Drake Release) Development Branch
[08:38] <bimberi> Release:	6.06
[08:38] <bimberi> Codename:	dapper
[08:38] <SurfnKid> diapper
[08:38] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> LSB Version:	n/a
[08:38] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> "LSB Version: n/a"
[08:38] <firstpua> anyone know what source has w32codecs ?
[08:38] <SurfnKid> have you registered your nick burepe2
[08:38] <intelikey> Coca-Cola_MechJo hmmm no version info ....   is that ubuntu you are running ?
[08:39] <firstpua> like what in my source.list i have to add to get w32codecs
[08:39] <burepe2> no
[08:39] <thoreauputic> !w32dodecs
[08:39] <ubotu> thoreauputic: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:39] <SurfnKid> !nick
[08:39] <burepe2> it is a back up nic
[08:39] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid
[08:39] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> intelikey: Yes it is, installed it this morning, burned the ISO last night.
[08:39] <thoreauputic> !codecs
[08:39] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[08:39] <lwarimav> i all
[08:39] <SurfnKid> well anyway..  ill explain
[08:39] <firstpua> !easysource
[08:39] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:39] <rixxon> have ubuntu been around since only 2004-10-20 ?
[08:39] <burepe2> sorry
[08:39] <SurfnKid> you got an ubuntu and xp box there with you
[08:39] <intelikey> ok plan b Coca-Cola_MechJo try /exec -o uname -r
[08:40] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> 2.6.12-9-386
[08:40] <burepe2> yeah
[08:40] <intelikey> breezy
[08:40] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> intelikey: 2.6.12-9-386
[08:40] <intelikey> breezy
[08:41] <babo> I have an nmap problem ...
[08:41] <SurfnKid> ok
[08:41] <babo> root@ubuntu64:~# nmap -o -sS x.x.x.x
[08:41] <babo> Failed to determine the netmask of ! : No such device
[08:41] <SurfnKid> have you tried accessing ubuntu from the xp box
[08:41] <burepe2> I need the address
[08:41] <SurfnKid> are you on ubuntu now?
[08:41] <burepe2> I don't know what it consist of
[08:41] <burepe2> this is xp
[08:41] <SurfnKid> ah
[08:42] <babo> why do I need the netmask ? ... ubuntu is the only distro that nmap seems to require this of ...
[08:42] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> intelikey: Does that number help?
[08:42] <burepe2> but i am next to both
[08:42] <intelikey> Coca-Cola_MechJo> 2.6.12-9-386   <intelikey> breezy  <Coca-Cola_MechJo> intelikey: 2.6.12-9-386   <intelikey> breezy
[08:42] <burepe2> If i am in a network do I just use the internal ip address
[08:42] <burepe2> ?
[08:42] <SurfnKid> ok lets do this first, we're going to access one machine for now and just so you can see how it works we'll do the viceversa, bare with me
[08:42] <burepe2> What if I am in a differnent place
[08:42] <SurfnKid> have you enabled VNC server on your XP
[08:42] <burepe2> ok
[08:43] <hugomagic> At the moment of oing the partitions to install ubunto how much do I have to give to each OS (XP and ubuntu)?
[08:43] <SurfnKid> yes if oyu are in an internal network you use the internal IP correct
[08:43] <burepe2> enabled? I downloaded the viewr that mehl or what's his name told us about
[08:43] <burepe2> the server is the ubuntu box
[08:43] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> intelikey: So it's breezy? Thanks alot for your help I appreciate it, can you give me a reference URL to where to learn these commands you're showing me?
[08:43] <alex_> hello
[08:43] <SurfnKid> ahh ok
[08:43] <burepe2> sorry not clear
[08:43] <SurfnKid> can you get to a terminal? type ifconfig eth0 and that'll give you the current ip address
[08:44] <burepe2> got it
[08:44] <SurfnKid> whats it say
[08:44] <intelikey> Coca-Cola_MechJo see the links that <ubotu>  is about to give.
[08:44] <burepe2> 192.168.0.3
[08:44] <intelikey> !cli
[08:44] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[08:44] <SurfnKid> thats it
[08:44] <SurfnKid> go to your XP box and with that IP you should breeze right in
[08:45] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> intelikey: Thanks bunches. First day using this OS. Hope I don't have to come back here and bug ya'll TOO much in my learning curve!
[08:45] <burepe2> If I am on the same network right? but what if I am in another town and I want to check on my comp don't I need external address too?
[08:45] <intelikey> Coca-Cola_MechJo any time'
[08:45] <SurfnKid> ah Lesson No. 2
[08:45] <burepe2> Coca-Cola_MechJo: dude get thoes repos set up and you will be fine
[08:45] <SurfnKid> yeah, can you get to your router? get inthere and figure out the global ip address
[08:45] <rixxon> babo: try * rather than x
[08:46] <SurfnKid> or...  use this to find out  http://checkip.dyndns.org   thats your external net IP
[08:46] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> burepe2: Thanks a bunches to you too! The Repos site asked for version is why I came back asking.
[08:46] <intelikey> SurfnKid ifconfig
[08:47] <SurfnKid> intelikey for external?
[08:47] <burepe2> ok www.showmyip.com
[08:47] <burepe2> got it
[08:47] <rixxon> babo: and -o requires parameters...
[08:47] <SurfnKid> you have to enable port forwarding on your router? 5800 i think and 5900 > to 192.168.0.3 make sure it points to that
[08:48] <burepe2> 220.47.238.184:192.168.0.3
[08:48] <intelikey> SurfnKid for me it woeks.... no router tho.
[08:48] <SurfnKid> thats it
[08:48] <SurfnKid> intelikey ah right, yes thought so
[08:48] <SurfnKid> plugged in straight
[08:49] <a_kwei> someone told me that i can get my webmail account using pop and using my own smtp to send it, how exactly can i do that?
[08:49] <intelikey> commands i know some, but network illiterate
[08:49] <SurfnKid> < network engineer
[08:49] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Burepe2: Alright, I've selected all I wanted, sorry, but how do I set them up?
[08:49] <SurfnKid> linux illiterate =D
[08:49] <SurfnKid> but im getting less sticky and a bit sharper
[08:50] <babo> rixxon: err ... the x.x.x.x denoted an ip address which I didn't want to publish on irc ... using * won't help but thanks anyway ...
[08:50] <intelikey> Coca-Cola_MechJo edit the sources.list ?
[08:50] <noiesmo> dcosta, have a look at fetchmail pretty sure it can retrive webmail
[08:50] <burepe2> Coca-Cola_MechJo: did it give you an output?
[08:50] <burepe2> did it make a list?
[08:50] <SurfnKid> burepe2 once Port Forwarding is set, you should be all set
[08:50] <burepe2> SurfnKid: yeah
[08:50] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> No it didnt?
[08:50] <burepe2> thanks
[08:50] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Just a couple check boxes.
[08:51] <burepe2> gotta make static ip first
[08:51] <dcosta> noiesmo: and to send it? it takes a long time for me to use gmail's smtp
[08:51] <Will123> YES. I beat the computer at four-in-a-row!
[08:51] <GeorgeAScott> oh please help me get sound from this audigy se..... please
[08:51] <SurfnKid> yw
[08:51] <burepe2> SurfnKid: is there a web based vnc viewer?
[08:51] <Miracle> What is the difference between Debian and Kubuntu or Gubuntu or Ubuntu?
[08:51] <SurfnKid> for ubuntu Im not sure
[08:52] <noiesmo> dcosta, here's address for fetchmail http://fetchmail.berlios.de and I justed used my isp for sending
[08:52] <SurfnKid> for XP there's a Java Web Client
[08:52] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Burepe2: I hit give me a source list but what do I do with the text
[08:52] <burepe2> Coca-Cola_MechJo: don
[08:52] <GeorgeAScott> i've been googling and i'm about to go crosseyed.
[08:52] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> burepe2: don?
[08:52] <rixxon> babo: ah, how about -o ?
[08:52] <burepe2> Coca-Cola_MechJo: now copy that and put that command i told you in a terminal
[08:52] <intelikey> Coca-Cola_MechJo to edit you sources.list file   press [alt] +[f2]   and type in   gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list     <--- one way.
[08:53] <dcosta> noiesmo: i don't know what isp my campus uses, that's why i am trying to set up my lab's own smtp
[08:53] <SurfnKid> burepe2 I am positive there is being that XP runs it, so Im sure its also on ubuntu I just havent gotten around getting that set up
[08:53] <babo> rixxon: nope, no luck there either. It's strange that none of the RH distros have any problem running nmap ...
[08:53] <burepe2> sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:53] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> burepe2, intelikey: Go back to step one, I'm TERRIBLY sorry about this but you've completely confused me.
[08:53] <SurfnKid> burepe2 help that guy out I'll stick around here
[08:53] <burepe2> intelikey: lets not confuse him
[08:54] <burepe2> let me explain
[08:54] <noiesmo> dcosta, not sure here's a link for sendmail http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-hn/sendmail.htm might help
[08:54] <intelikey> Coca-Cola_MechJo or what burepe2 said.  it's the same process.
[08:54] <vinboy> should I enable Logical volume manager (LVM) support in kernel?
[08:54] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> This is my first day using ubuntu sorry.
[08:54] <burepe2> 2 different people saying the same thing
[08:54] <dcosta> thanks a lot
[08:54] <burepe2> Coca-Cola_MechJo: copy the list the website gave you
[08:54] <Healot> vinboy: yes if you have logical volumes to manage
[08:54] <burepe2> Coca-Cola_MechJo: then open a terminal
[08:54] <burepe2> got it?
[08:54] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> These packages are supported with security updates by the Ubuntu developers. Without this section, upgrading/installing packages becomes virtually impossible.
[08:54] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Supported versions:
[08:54] <Coca-Cola_MechJo>     * hoary
[08:54] <Coca-Cola_MechJo>     * breezy
[08:54] <Coca-Cola_MechJo>     * dapper
[08:54] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Supported architectures:
[08:55] <Coca-Cola_MechJo>     * i386
[08:55] <Coca-Cola_MechJo>     * ppc
[08:55] <Coca-Cola_MechJo>     * amd64
[08:55] <Healot> hoi
[08:55] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> GPG Key: 437D05B5
[08:55] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Key owner: Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[08:55] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> That?
[08:55] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> No commands I can't find./
[08:55] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Just lists of supported systems and versions.
[08:55] <burepe2> Coca-Cola_MechJo: what do you have Breezy or Dapper?
[08:55] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> Breezy
[08:55] <ompaul> Coca-Cola_MechJo, (A) please do not paste (B) please shorten your nick it works badly with some clients (C) use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:56] <intelikey> burepe2  you'll also have to help him open a terminal...  that's why i said  alt+f2    <shrugs/>
[08:56] <ompaul> intelikey, just back - third definition?
[08:56] <burepe2> he doesn't have the list
[08:56] <burepe2> i don't think
[08:56] <intelikey> ompaul on the bot's reply... not important.
[08:56] <ompaul> ahh okay
[08:57] <Coca-Cola_MechJo> BRB Have to exit client to chose new /nick. Sorry
[08:57] <intelikey> or do /nick blah
[08:57] <SurfnKid> !blah
[08:57] <ubotu> SurfnKid: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:58] <intelikey> blah blah blah, blah.
[08:58] <grantb> Back, this is Coca-Cola_MechJock, sorry didn't realize some would have probs with that name.
[08:58] <SurfnKid> I just noticed, thats what keep doing
[08:58] <SurfnKid> what we keep doingn
[08:58] <burepe2> grantb: wait one sec ok?
[08:59] <SurfnKid> dang keyboard
[08:59] <grantb> burepe2: Alright.
[08:59] <MyNameIsNotBob> does anyone have any idea how to get sudo working properly on my user?
[08:59] <burepe2> grantb: what country are you in?
[08:59] <intelikey> bob add you user to the adm group
[08:59] <SurfnKid> oh crap
[08:59] <SurfnKid> guys
[08:59] <grantb> burepe2: United States.
[08:59] <MyNameIsNotBob> intelikey, how?
[09:00] <SurfnKid> i have a process that just hung, and my processor is at 99% how can i kill it
[09:00] <wenko> ps    and kill
[09:00] <MyNameIsNotBob> SurfnKid, load a terminal and run top
[09:00] <intelikey> boot to rescue,  and do a usermod -G adm <name>
[09:00] <intelikey> vov ^
[09:00] <Healot> power off, plug the plug or kill the process using the most CPU time
[09:00] <intelikey> bob
[09:00] <wenko> dont forget the sudo
[09:01] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[09:01] <intelikey> wenko who ?
[09:01] <wenko> you...
[09:01] <SurfnKid> ta hell is whiptail
[09:01] <wenko> you may need to run sudo
[09:01] <wenko> errrrr
[09:01] <intelikey> wenko as root.... no.
[09:02] <wenko> right....i didnt think hed be in as root
[09:02] <MyNameIsNotBob> intelikey, do i have to reboot to rescue or can i just log into a terminal as root?
[09:02] <intelikey> bob have to reboot to single user mode.
[09:02] <burepe2> grantb: go to this page and copy what I posted
[09:02] <intelikey> if sudo is hosed  you have to be root to fix it.
[09:03] <SurfnKid> Heatlot whats whiptail, its at 93%
[09:03] <burepe2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14895
[09:03] <burepe2> grantb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14895
[09:03] <intelikey> MyNameIsNotBob do you have a root passwd ?
[09:03] <SurfnKid> !whiptail
[09:03] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid
[09:03] <MyNameIsNotBob> intelikey, yes
[09:03] <intelikey> then become root.
[09:03] <alex_> Is there a different way of mounting a vfat partition, other than through mount? (a graphical way oppose to going through the console)
[09:04] <grantb> burepe2: Alright I copied it.
[09:04] <MyNameIsNotBob> i did your command as root and it still doesn't work
[09:04] <intelikey> MyNameIsNotBob log out and back in to activate the change
[09:04] <MyNameIsNotBob> ok
[09:05] <burepe2> grantb: then do alt+f2
[09:05] <burepe2> WAIT
[09:05] <burepe2> don't do that
[09:05] <grantb> burepe2: Alright, got a "Run Application"
[09:05] <SurfnKid> MyNameIsNotBob,  um after I run top whast the command to kill the process
[09:05] <burepe2> no
[09:05] <burepe2> not that
[09:05] <grantb> burpe2: Alright sorry
[09:05] <burepe2> do this instead
[09:05] <intelikey> SurfnKid man top
[09:05] <MyNameIsNotBob> SurfnKid, press k
[09:06] <MyNameIsNotBob> and enter the pid
[09:06] <burepe2> go Aplications >System tools >terminal
[09:06] <burepe2> When you get that up let me know
[09:06] <SurfnKid> grr i cant kill whiptail
[09:07] <ompaul> @now christchurch
[09:07] <SurfnKid> operation not permitted
[09:07] <intelikey> burepe2 what was wrong with gksudo gedit sources  ?
[09:07] <ompaul> @now wellington
[09:07] <ompaul> @now nz
[09:07] <grantb> burepe2: No "Terminal" under "Applications>System Tools
[09:07] <Ubugtu> Current time in NZ: May 31 2006, 19:07:30
[09:07] <burepe2> if he presses alt -f2 he can't see what we are saying
[09:07] <burepe2> and he might not know how to get out
[09:08] <bimberi> ompaul: 5 hours :)
[09:08] <petrik> What other options are there for file/print sharing? Having no luck with NFS or Samba.
[09:08] <ompaul> my thoughts exactle
[09:08] <burepe2> I got freaked when i realized that and was like wait
[09:08] <intelikey> burepe2 huh ?
[09:08] <`moses`> @now tx
[09:08] <ompaul> bimberi,  my thoughts exactly
[09:08] <burepe2> this way is better
[09:08] <`moses`> @now texas
[09:08] <burepe2> if you do alt - f2 there is no gui
[09:08] <intelikey> zyiro  ping from afar
[09:09] <grantb> Burepe2: No "Terminal" under Applications>System Tools.
[09:09] <burepe2> how am i gonna finish the directions if he has no gui?
[09:09] <`moses`> @now chicago
[09:09] <burepe2> are you useing ubuntu?
[09:09] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: May 31 2006, 02:09:26
[09:09] <grantb> Burepe2: Yes.
[09:09] <MyNameIsNotBob> is it a graphical program SurfnKid ?
[09:10] <SurfnKid> MyNameIsNotBob, forgot to do sudo on it, I got it,  yeah i ran apt-get install postfix and i accidentally closed the terminal
[09:10] <SurfnKid> but it froze up
[09:10] <SurfnKid> and just heard my fans speed up
[09:10] <burepe2> grantb: what does it say under system tools
[09:10] <burepe2> ?
[09:10] <SurfnKid> Thank you I learned another command now
[09:10] <MyNameIsNotBob> SurfnKid, cause the other option is xkill
[09:11] <SurfnKid> oh
[09:11] <MyNameIsNotBob> press ALT+F2
[09:11] <intelikey> burepe2 doesn't  alt+f2 give you an inpur box where you type in the command and it runs it......  gksudo will open an xdialog window for the password  and gedit will then run as root.....
[09:11] <MyNameIsNotBob> and run xkill
[09:11] <intelikey> input
[09:11] <SurfnKid> i just did that lol
[09:12] <SurfnKid> prefer top its more geeky like
[09:12] <burepe2> sorry my bad
[09:12] <intelikey> and i don't even use gnome.
[09:12] <burepe2> You are right
[09:12] <burepe2> i don't either
[09:12] <NewDap> I have a support question
[09:12] <intelikey> but lets not confuse him.
[09:12] <grantb> Burepe2: Ubuntu Device Database, System Monitor, System Log, Run as Different User, New Login, Network Tools, Floppy Formatter, Configeration editor, bug report tool, and applications menu editor, from bottom to top.
[09:12] <burepe2> grantb: press alt f2
[09:13] <burepe2> alt and f2
[09:13] <NewDap> for some reason I get "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/celestia/celestia-common_1.3.2-3.1ubuntu3_all.deb"
[09:13] <NewDap> even though that is a supported file in a supported repository
[09:13] <NewDap> what gives?
[09:13] <grantb> burepe2 Alright I've got "Run Application"
[09:14] <grantb> burepe2: I just borrowed my roomies laptop with windows, I need server info and i'll log in this IRC on that, so you can keep talking to me.
[09:14] <burepe2> intelikey: that was the point. if you want to do it, by all means...
[09:14] <MyNameIsNotBob> intelikey, still don't have sudo privileges
[09:14] <ompaul> us.archive is notorious for being unreliable - remove the us. - or change it to ie.archive (who move several times more data than kernel.org every day :-)
[09:14] <rob138> for some reason i lost control over a lot of random wierd things, for one thing if i click and icon and press delete, it won't delete, also if i click a window, i don't get focus, unless i click the title bar, and my control,options,super, and alt key don't work for a lot of things?
[09:14] <ompaul> NewDap, ^^^ look up a few lines
[09:14] <intelikey> MyNameIsNotBob groups   show adm for that user ?
[09:15] <SurfnKid> MyNameIsNotBob, xkill is much easier you're right, Thanks! didn't want to reboot
[09:15] <MyNameIsNotBob> shows sudo
[09:15] <noiesmo> NewDap, interesting the file is there I just followed link and can download maybe download manually put it in /var/cache/apt/archives/ and then run apt-get command
[09:15] <intelikey> MyNameIsNotBob no it has to be adm
[09:16] <user_> hey guys... when i try to run sudo bash i get a timestamp error... can anyone tell me how to fix this?  sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jun  1 02:21:08 2006
[09:16] <intelikey> MyNameIsNotBob visudo   look at the way it works and you will see what is happening.     man sudoers    also helps
[09:16] <NewDap> thanks
[09:16] <NewDap> I will give it a shot
[09:16] <rob138> anyone have an idea ^
[09:17] <SurfnKid> whats bash do?
[09:17] <NewDap> hmmm
[09:18] <SurfnKid> debugger?
[09:18] <NewDap> where can I get a source list that uses .ie as opposed to .us
[09:18] <MrGallihur> What is Ubuntu?
[09:18] <bimberi> !ubuntu
[09:18] <ubotu> I heard ubuntu is a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[09:18] <Healot> !bounty
[09:18] <ubotu> Healot: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:18] <burepe2> grantb: now in there type sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:18] <MrGallihur> Ah
[09:18] <user_> SurfnKid, bash is a linux shell
[09:18] <grantxp> burepe2: Alright, I'm on laptop and I've hit alt+f2 on the desktop, so I can talk to you now and do whatever it was you were about to show me.
[09:18] <SurfnKid> I see
[09:19] <burepe2> look up
[09:19] <Agent_bob> !bash
[09:19] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[09:19] <rob138> hi, if i click a window, i don't get focus, unless i click the title bar... how do i fix this?
[09:19] <Agent_bob> bash - GNU Bourne-Again SHell
[09:20] <SurfnKid> ah
[09:20] <grantxp> burepe2: Do I want to "Run in terminal" or just "run"?
[09:20] <SurfnKid> coool deal
[09:20] <burepe2> grantxp: did you get the command?
[09:20] <burepe2> run in terminal
[09:20] <MyNameIsNotBob> intelikey, still doesn't work
[09:20] <Agent_bob> in adm group now ?
[09:20] <burepe2> then delete everything in that file and paste in what I sent you in that page
[09:20] <MyNameIsNotBob> yes
[09:21] <Agent_bob> MyNameIsNotBob sudoers say     adm    ALL=(ALL) ALL     ?
[09:21] <burepe2> grantxp: then press control+x to save
[09:21] <grantxp> burepe2: Delete doesn't work?
[09:21] <NewDap> what I am looking for is an ideal source list for Dapper
[09:21] <MyNameIsNotBob> sorry Agent_bob, explain?
[09:22] <Agent_bob> as root cat /etc/sudoers
[09:22] <grantxp> burepe2: Sorry, nvm, blond moment....
[09:22] <MyNameIsNotBob> no it doesn't
[09:22] <burepe2> grantxp: backspace?
[09:23] <errordeveloper> i have installed ubuntu from scratch , and evrything is set up fine already, but it doesnt wanna bring eth0 up on boot .. what could be wrong ?
[09:23] <Agent_bob> MyNameIsNotBob anything remotely close ?
[09:23] <errordeveloper> ??
[09:23] <MyNameIsNotBob> it says root instead of adm
[09:23] <SurfnKid> time to watch CBSnews
[09:23] <Agent_bob> MyNameIsNotBob visudo
[09:24] <Agent_bob> change it.
[09:24] <burepe2> SurfnKid: thanks for yr help earlieer
[09:24] <rob138> (sorry for reposting, i got disconnected) but if i click a window, i don't get focus, unless i click the title bar... how do i fix this?
[09:24] <burepe2> grantxp: are you following?
[09:24] <grantxp> Burepe2: Yes, alot text, I'm deleting it now.
[09:24] <SurfnKid> yw mate, if ya need me to test it thru here, I can do it now :)
[09:25] <noiesmo> errordeveloper, check /etc/network/interfaces add the following line
[09:25] <noiesmo> errordeveloper, iface eth0 inet dhcp
[09:25] <noiesmo> errordeveloper, auto eth0
[09:25] <noiesmo> errordeveloper, or man interfaces for more info
[09:25] <MyNameIsNotBob> how do i save
[09:26] <grantxp> Burepe2: And what saved it?
[09:26] <burepe2> ctrl+x
[09:26] <burepe2> and then y
[09:26] <grantxp> burepe2: Alright! That's done.
[09:26] <burepe2> then open adept
[09:27] <Agent_bob> MyNameIsNotBob  how do i save ????  depends on the editor....
[09:27] <burepe2> aplications>system tools>adept
[09:27] <grantxp> burepe2: Wow, right quick? Was I supposed to get text from each of those sites in your paste or paste exactly what you did?
[09:28] <burepe2> just what i sent you
[09:28] <MyNameIsNotBob> Agent_bob, in visudo, how do i save the file?
[09:28] <chx> how could I disable logging of firestarter?
[09:28] <Healot> :qw
[09:28] <alex_> my sound doesn't work. I just installed ubuntu, any ideas?
[09:28] <Agent_bob> ctrl o    for nano   f2 for mc/cool edit   [esc]  :w  for vi
[09:28] <alex_> via motherboard built-in sound
[09:28] <grantxp> burepe2: Sorry no adept in Applications>System Tools either.
[09:29] <Agent_bob> MyNameIsNotBob it's probably nano.
[09:29] <knanand> hi all
[09:29] <burepe2> alex_:  System>prefrences>sound and change the default sound card
[09:29] <SurfnKid> hi knanand
[09:29] <Agent_bob> MyNameIsNotBob visudo can be set to use many different editors for the work.    try   [ctrl]  O
[09:30] <MyNameIsNotBob> Agent_bob, i worked it out in vi
[09:30] <burepe2> grantxp: do you still have that terminal open?
[09:30] <grantxp> burepe2: No, do I need to open it again?
[09:30] <Agent_bob> MyNameIsNotBob vi   ok [esc]  :wq
[09:30] <knanand> hi all
[09:30] <MyNameIsNotBob> Agent_bob, well wq! for read-only file
[09:30] <burepe2> grantxp: do alt + f2
[09:31] <Agent_bob> MyNameIsNotBob k
[09:31] <burepe2> grantxp: then type in sudo adept
[09:31] <alex_> burepe2: "preferences" doesn't exist in "System"
[09:31] <MyNameIsNotBob> i'll logout and back in to see, brb
[09:31] <Agent_bob> gksudo
[09:31] <knanand> i recently re-installed my windows XP now i cannot boot to ubuntu.. :( how can boot to linux again...
[09:31] <Agent_bob> burepe2 gksudo
[09:31] <grantxp> burepe2: in terminal or just run?
[09:31] <ompaul> !grub
[09:31] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[09:31] <burepe2> which ever
[09:31] <Agent_bob> !gksudo
[09:31] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[09:31] <ompaul> knanand, ^^ that line up there by ubotu
[09:32] <burepe2> alex_ my menus seem to be differnt
[09:32] <burepe2> grantxp:
[09:32] <burepe2> wait
[09:32] <grantxp> burepe2: nothing happened.
[09:32] <alex_> burepe2: thanks anyhow
[09:32] <burepe2> do gksudo adept instead
[09:33] <burepe2> thanks Agent_bob
[09:33] <MyNameIsNotBob> Agent_bob, still doesn't work
[09:33] <grantxp> burepe2: It asked me for my password, and then nothing happened?
[09:33] <ThePub> At the risk of sounding naive ;)  since ubuntu is based on Debian, I'm assuming it still uses the apt system them for packages?
[09:33] <burepe2> grantxp: type in gksudo adept
[09:34] <MyNameIsNotBob> ThePub, correct
[09:34] <SurfnKid> what would happen if this channel didnt exist? what would everyone feel :P
[09:34] <grantxp> burepe2: "Failed to run adept as user root: Child terminated with 1 status" Only option is "close"
[09:35] <ThePub> MyNameIsNotBob, lol - thanks.  haven't actually had a linux box in awhile, and someone told me Ubuntu was a decently good distribution.  And I've always used Debian in the past. :)
[09:35] <Agent_bob> burepe2 also adept is standard for kde  synaptic is standard for gnome.... just in case.
[09:35] <burepe2> ok
[09:35] <burepe2> thatnks
[09:35] <SurfnKid> Agent_bob, adept=synaptic in kde terms?
[09:35] <burepe2> grantxp: do sudo synaptic
[09:36] <grantxp> kin alt+f2?
[09:36] <Agent_bob> SurfnKid more or less. yes
[09:36] <Bung> i have ubuntu and windows on seperate partitions. if i re-install windows to the one partition, is it going to messup grub?
[09:36] <burepe2> I thought adept was new for all ubuntu based systems
[09:36] <Healot> Bung: yes, Windows will overwrite MBR
[09:36] <Bung> i see
[09:36] <Healot> unless you install GRUB on other partition...
[09:36] <burepe2> bung: I am pretty sure windows will take out grub
[09:36] <SurfnKid> Agent_bob, i see
[09:37] <NewDap> I really need help, I have been using the ubuntu source o matic
[09:37] <Healot> for Windows+Linux duelboot, I suggest you figure that out with NTloader
[09:37] <burepe2> grantxp: areyou there?
[09:37] <Agent_bob> burepe2 i said "starnard"  not that you can't use it on other desktops.
[09:37] <Bung> grub isnt installed on the partition windows is irrc
[09:37] <NewDap> and i cannot build a package list that does NOT fail
[09:37] <grantxp> burepe2: Alright I've got a "Synaptic Package Manager" Broken into 3 frames.
[09:37] <Agent_bob> just that it may not be installed
[09:37] <NewDap> can someone how has a working package list please send me a link to a copy of it?
[09:38] <Bung> so if need be, can i install grub from the ubuntu cds?
[09:38] <MyNameIsNotBob> Agent_bob, any other ideas?
[09:38] <NewDap> gtg
[09:38] <burepe2> ok now you can get just about any program you want through synaptic. Maybe except for skype. You can get dvd codex or windows codecs or vlc or whatever
[09:38] <Agent_bob> MyNameIsNotBob you can post your /etc/sudoers  file on pastebin
[09:39] <Agent_bob> !paste
[09:39] <burepe2> this is what makes ubuntu great because using these package managers work much better than other linux applications and it is easy
[09:39] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[09:39] <burepe2> grantxp: do you follow?
[09:39] <grantxp> Burepe2: Yes
[09:40] <Bung> Healot: so if need be, can i install grub from the ubuntu cds?
[09:40] <burepe2> help other people to do this in the future. Once you get past this point using ubuntu is usually pretty easy
[09:41] <MyNameIsNotBob> Agent_bob, done
[09:41] <Healot> hum... yes... i guess, but my way is to make a grubdisk first, then reinstall grub
[09:41] <Agent_bob> bung yes you can
[09:41] <Bung> ok good to know, thank you
[09:41] <DarkTower> halo 3 is gunna rock
[09:41] <Agent_bob> MyNameIsNotBob url please
[09:41] <Bung> halo gives me a headache
[09:41] <grantxp> burepe2: Alright, I really appreciate all your time, All I can really bring myself to ask you for now is any URL you know that can point me at some help files for the other things I need to get doing?
[09:42] <crazy_penguin> good morning everybody! :)
[09:42] <DarkTower> dont play so close to the tv lol
[09:42] <crazy_penguin> a good dapper morning to all ! :)
[09:42] <MyNameIsNotBob> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14896
[09:42] <selinium> burepe2: you can get skype deb from Seveas' mirrors.   http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:42] <Agent_bob> k
[09:42] <burepe2> What do you want to do?
[09:42] <Bung> hehe true enuf
[09:42] <burepe2> grantxp:
[09:42] <grantxp> burepe2: lol, figure out this OS.
[09:42] <DarkTower> Anyone know how you can stop skype needing to be restarted after each call?
[09:42] <MyNameIsNotBob> grantxp, ubuntuguide.org is good
[09:42] <grantxp> Thanks.
[09:43] <grantxp> Adding it now.
[09:43] <selinium> !ubuntuguide
[09:43] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[09:43] <selinium> grantxp: read above message from ubotu
[09:43] <grantxp> You guys are great! Thanks everyone for all the help! >:D<
[09:43] <burepe2> grantxp: ubotu is a bot and tells you helpful things read what he said
[09:43] <darkgamer20> what the LTS stand for in the 6.06 download section?
[09:44] <grantxp> burepe2: That'd be the first time I've ever listened to a bot's suggestion for a site, but I'll add them too lol.
[09:44] <Agent_bob> MyNameIsNotBob sorry.  the adm needs  % in front of it.   my bad
[09:44] <jameyg> darkgamer20, long term support
[09:44] <darkgamer20> ohh
[09:44] <selinium> MyNameIsNotBob: ubuntuguide is an ok site but it can break stuff, it is not recommended to pass new users to it.
[09:44] <Agent_bob> MyNameIsNotBob %adm    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[09:45] <darkgamer20> jameyg: is that cause its being supported for like what 5 years or something?
[09:45] <MyNameIsNotBob> selinium, ok
[09:45] <jameyg> darkgamer20, it took me ages to figure it out too
[09:45] <DarkTower> will ubuntuguide be upgraded? Is it an official source of info?
[09:45] <darkgamer20> jameyg: lol thanks
[09:45] <DarkTower> Ive always gone there first thats all
[09:45] <selinium> !tell DarkTower about ubuntuguide
[09:45] <SurfnKid> mmm my mail isnt working right
[09:45] <jameyg> darkgamer20, yeah three years on desktop, five on server
[09:46] <SurfnKid> how can i check mail relay options in postfix
[09:46] <Agent_bob> MyNameIsNotBob not being a user of sudo i forget until i actually lay hands on it....
[09:46] <DarkTower> I heard it the first time, thats why i asked my question
[09:46] <thoreauputic> DarkTower: way out of date
[09:46] <thoreauputic> DarkTower: unofficial, and I don't think it will be updated
[09:46] <Agent_bob> like the man pages out of date or not that out of date ?
[09:46] <MyNameIsNotBob> Agent_bob, i'd keep with using su, but ubuntu is built on the sudo concept
[09:46] <DarkTower> thoreauputic: thankyou
[09:47] <selinium> DarkTower: Sorry.... :)
[09:47] <DarkTower> selinium: thats cool, sorry i growled lol
[09:47] <Agent_bob> MyNameIsNotBob hehhe yeah but i'm not built on that concept.
[09:47] <selinium> DarkTower: np :)
[09:47] <jameyg> DarkTower, the best unofficial dapper guide I can find is http://krazypenguin.net/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide . But I still prefer the official wiki =)
[09:47] <thoreauputic> !seen bob2
[09:47] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'bob2', thoreauputic
[09:48] <thoreauputic> hmm - neither has anyone else, for months
[09:48] <Agent_bob> MyNameIsNotBob did you get it working now ?
[09:48] <DarkTower> jameyg: thanks for that, ill check it out. cant wait for dapper, will want a good guide on hand for first day setup
[09:48] <MyNameIsNotBob> Agent_bob, seems to be
[09:48] <selinium> thoreauputic: I haven't seen '!seen' before!
[09:48] <thoreauputic> selinium: heh
[09:48] <MyNameIsNotBob> Agent_bob, thanks for the help
[09:49] <ompaul> DarkTower, this is not zero day warzes you could get the flight from a few days ago and do an update and be ready before it is released :-)
[09:49] <Agent_bob> np bob
[09:49] <thoreauputic> selinium: you remember bob2 though?
[09:49] <trainee> will the release for dapper be any diff on the beta release? <-newbie...
[09:49] <thoreauputic> trainee: slightly, yes
[09:49] <thoreauputic> trainee: but updating will give you the same thing
[09:49] <selinium> thoreauputic: Indeed I do, not a figment of your imagination at all!
[09:49] <ompaul> bob2  Last Seen: 23 weeks 2 days (7h 8m 13s) ago (bob2` seen 23 weeks 2 days (7h 8m 13s) ago)
[09:49] <`moses`> ompaul how can i ensure that my RC candidate will get the proper upgrade ?  apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade ?
[09:49] <thoreauputic> selinium: :)
[09:49] <trainee> i've installed the beta...and i like what i see..
[09:49] <DarkTower> ompaul: thanks. True but id rather wait for the full official release. You know having a new toy and all
[09:50] <jain> Hi guys
[09:50] <ompaul> `moses`, yes
[09:50] <`moses`> thank you
[09:50] <thoreauputic> ompaul: he must have got a life ;-)
[09:50] <selinium> `moses`: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:50] <trainee> iv'e been updating and hve been noticing changes in every update...
[09:50] <jain> I donot want to lock my computer everytime I close my lid, just want a blank screen
[09:50] <ompaul> thoreauputic, maybe
[09:50] <jain> anyone knows how to do that
[09:50] <`moses`> do i have a life ?  absolutely not
[09:50] <Agent_bob> trainee me too
[09:51] <grantb> Ok, sorry about that, I'm just going to sit in here awhile and hope the knowledge poors off into me lol.
[09:51] <alex_> so anyone know where i can get info on how to fix my sound problem?
[09:51] <grantb> And thanks again for all the help.
[09:51] <`moses`> why else would i be geeking out on geeky stuff all the time ?  (btw geeks make the best hubbys)
[09:51] <thoreauputic> trainee: changes will almost stop after release, except for security and bugfixes
[09:51] <Agent_bob> in fact one thing that changes each time the kernel updats is i cant boot.
[09:51] <dcosta> i'm using theopencd. how can i connect to the net? i've got my static ip, netmask, and gateway info
[09:52] <`moses`> looks like your just missing your dns servers
[09:52] <DarkTower> How close is the RC to what will be released?
[09:52] <selinium> alex_ what is your sound problem
[09:52] <trainee> can anyone one tell me which repository is safe to activate...
[09:52] <dcosta> where should i put the dns address?
[09:52] <trainee> so far i've only activated the upper two...
[09:52] <`moses`> i dont know.  i use gnome.
[09:53] <Agent_bob> trainee the ones that say ubuntu in the name
[09:53] <selinium> !tell trainee abotu repos
[09:53] <`moses`> DarkTower there will be at least 100MB to download
[09:53] <Agent_bob>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[09:53] <Agent_bob>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[09:54] <Agent_bob> pick your poison
[09:54] <dcosta> where should i put the dns address so i can get online?
[09:54] <selinium> !tell trainee abotu repos
[09:55] <Agent_bob> three lines one with ^ that one with security  and one with updates  in them
[09:55] <Soir> dcosta: edit it under networking?
[09:55] <ompaul> selinium, he don't know that word
[09:55] <petrik> How can I find out what my NFS server name is?
[09:55] <selinium> ompaul: ?
[09:55] <selinium> since when?
[09:55] <ompaul> selinium, abotu !=about
[09:55] <grantb> burepe2: BTW Is there a quick way that I don't eat up any more of your time, that I can set this up with a dual boot between two languages? Or would the easiest way be to get two HDDs and just have one Japanese and one English and just use different language OSs?
[09:55] <dcosta> where in networking?
[09:56] <selinium> ompaul: Doh!
[09:56] <`moses`> dcosta you can usually find the servers in your router dialog
[09:56] <selinium> !tell trainee about repos
[09:56] <selinium> Woo Hoo!
[09:56] <thoreauputic> selinium: did you think ubotu suddenly became dyslexic ? *grin*
[09:56] <grantb> !uboto
[09:56] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, grantb
[09:56] <selinium> thoreauputic: I am hitting the keyboard with a pound of sausages!
[09:56] <dcosta> i don't know anything about networking :(
[09:56] <DarkTower> what exactlt is xgl? I just saw a cool vid. Is it just the 3d desktop changer. Hard to see in the vid
[09:57] <dabaR> u-bot-o
[09:57] <Agent_bob> ompaul don't be so dad blamed picky.....  the bot might not notice the typo.....  :)
[09:57] <grantb> !ubotu
[09:57] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:57] <dcosta> i just know that this lab here uses a hub to connect to the server, which in 202.152.39.60
[09:57] <thoreauputic> selinium: if it's the same pound of sausages you were hiting it with some months ago, I recommend cleaning the keyboard ;P
[09:57] <ompaul> Agent_bob, :-)
[09:57] <blaze> can somebody help me install the source for my video drivers?
[09:57] <dabaR> What time will dapper be released?
[09:57] <selinium> thoreauputic: LOL
[09:57] <duck[1] > so today is the release date, right?
[09:58] <ompaul> duck[1] , 1st june some times
[09:58] <SurfnKid> ok im goin to sleep, thanks for your help guys again Ive learned a few new commands, hopefully tomorrow i will remember them lol
[09:58] <`moses`> dabar, all we know is that real men dont sleep until their system is up to date.
[09:58] <trainee> thanks selinium... :)
[09:58] <duck[1] > oh right, 31 days in may
[09:58] <B1zz> good then i can to to bed then :-p
[09:58] <Agent_bob> SurfnKid nn
[09:58] <SurfnKid> nite man
[09:58] <selinium> trainee No problems, if you get stuck, yell out again! :)
[09:58] <dabaR> Do I read men, or Ubutu-users whatever their gender?
[09:58] <duck[1] > gnite
[09:58] <blaze> can somebody help me install the source for my video drivers?
[09:58] <`moses`> sorry
[09:59] <`moses`> ubuntu users
[09:59] <DarkTower> oo feminism rant coming lol
[09:59] <`moses`> i figured you were a guy :/
[09:59] <Agent_bob> blaze ati ?
[09:59] <selinium> blaze: do you mean compile something from source?
[09:59] <dabaR> I am. Not everyone is.
[09:59] <`moses`> yeah but i addressed it to you :)
[09:59] <trainee> okay will do selinium...
[09:59] <blaze> selinium, yes
[10:00] <selinium> !tell blaze about compile
[10:00] <blaze> from this page, selinium, http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=163
[10:00] <Agent_bob> !ati
[10:00] <ubotu> well, ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:00] <thoreauputic> dabaR: 1st of June AFAIK
[10:00] <blaze> i've read this already :)
[10:00] <thoreauputic> dabaR: whether that's UTC I don't know :)
[10:00] <dabaR> thoreauputic: OK. We are still here for another release:)
[10:00] <grantb> !Japanese
[10:00] <ubotu> grantb: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:01] <Agent_bob> !b-e blaze
[10:01] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Agent_bob
[10:01] <Healot> !jp
[10:01] <ubotu> methinks jp is Japan
[10:01] <`moses`> in UTC time how long is it until its the 1st of June ?
[10:01] <Healot> jap lap
[10:01] <grantb> !jp
[10:01] <Hobbsee> @time
[10:01] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: May 31 2006, 08:01:28
[10:01] <Hobbsee> `moses`: ^
[10:02] <dabaR> More off than on:)
[10:02] <ompaul> @now tokyo
[10:02] <Ubugtu> Current time in Asia/Tokyo: May 31 2006, 17:02:18
[10:02] <noiesmo> @brisbane
[10:02] <ompaul> no
[10:02] <noiesmo> @now brisbane
[10:02] <Ubugtu> Current time in Australia/Brisbane: May 31 2006, 18:02:39
[10:02] <thoreauputic> @now Nadi
[10:02] <ompaul> and stop playing with the bots in the channel go to #ubuntu-offtopic go get times
[10:02] <dabaR> oooh, cafuego is on the edge of his seat
[10:02] <noiesmo> sorry ompaul
[10:02] <ompaul> :-)
[10:03] <Agent_bob> well the guys working on kde still have a long ways to go before it's as good as it was 3 years ago.
[10:03] <selinium> blaze: so download the file and fllow the steps, if you get into trouble shout out again   :)
[10:03] <googler> tomorow i'll upgrade from breezy to dapper and i need to know how much time should it take for 256kbps connection?
[10:03] <ompaul> googler, get the CD it will be faster :)
[10:03] <thoreauputic> googler: depends how much you already have installed
[10:03] <googler> approx.?
[10:03] <blaze> selinium, there are no steps for ubuntu.. only for fedora
[10:03] <thoreauputic> googler: for instance mine was 900 MB
[10:04] <thoreauputic> googler: but I have a lot installed ( extra desktops and stuff )
[10:04] <selinium> blaze: which file are you trying to download from the page....
[10:04] <thoreauputic> googler: the update will tell you how much before you accept it
[10:04] <Agent_bob> googler 256k  it wont take very long   i uped over dialup
[10:05] <defrysk> googler, downloadtime wil be told when APT-GET DIST-UPGRADE ;)
[10:05] <Squirrel511> hello all
[10:05] <extern> can someone guide me through the process of adding a script to the booting (to set up the iptables and ip forwarding)
[10:05] <defrysk> sorry caps
[10:05] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: that's masochism ;P
[10:05] <googler> yes i see, so it may download about 1.5GB, right?
[10:05] <blaze> selinium, sec.
[10:05] <thoreauputic> googler: not likely
[10:05] <Agent_bob> googler no  more like .5
[10:05] <Prof_Frink> googler: my upgrade was about 1GB
[10:06] <Squirrel511> u-offtopic
[10:06] <Squirrel511> hello all
[10:06] <googler> ok thanks to you all for response, have a nice time
[10:06] <petrik> When I try to mount a NFS drive I get can't find address. Any ideas what I'm missing?
[10:07] <Agent_bob> show the command
[10:07] <SurfnKid> where can i get the xorg-driver-fglrx?
[10:08] <Healot> it's on the repos on the most Ubuntu mirrors
[10:08] <Agent_bob> repos
[10:08] <Agent_bob> xorg-driver-fglrx - Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators
[10:08] <SurfnKid> gotcha
[10:08] <SurfnKid> thx
[10:08] <Agent_bob> odd way you have of sleeping SurfnKid
[10:09] <michael__> hello all
[10:09] <Agent_bob> yo michael__
[10:09] <MyNameIsNotBob> !pastebin
[10:09] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[10:09] <michael__> how's it going, bob?
[10:09] <Agent_bob> well
[10:09] <extern> how to add a custom script to the startup?
[10:09] <rahonavis> oh no now yahoo wants to buy ubuntu !
[10:10] <SurfnKid> i keep wanting the ATI driver running so i thought about lookin that up
[10:10] <SurfnKid> before i hit the sack
[10:10] <ompaul> rahonavis, I will sell it to them at $100 for postage and packaging
[10:10] <rahonavis> hehe
[10:10] <Agent_bob> extern put it in /etc/init.d  and  man update-rc.d    for how to activate ti
[10:10] <Agent_bob> it
[10:10] <michael__> that would be a really scary event rahon. Think of the ad campaign. Ubuntoo-oo.
[10:10] <rahonavis> i'll place my order now :)
[10:11] <ompaul> they want to put spyware into it to see how google do their stuff?
[10:11] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:11] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[10:11] <michael__> surfinkid, did you see the EasyUbuntu site yet?
[10:11] <michael__> I think it might have the ATI driver.
[10:11] <SurfnKid> I'll take a look
[10:12] <michael__> Basically, I used it to install all those naughty codecs that didn't come with the distro.
[10:13] <jameyg> michael__, yeah it's a real time saver
[10:13] <michael__> Can't live w/out my ifilms.
[10:13] <Agent_bob> oh yeah codecs  knew there was something else i was going to do
[10:13] <michael__> Or my shoutcast.
[10:14] <maikol> anyone here used python for cgi in apache under ubuntu
[10:15] <AlmtyBob> how do you get a count of the number of items in a directory in the console?
[10:15] <michael__> Can't say I have maikol. My programming knowledge is about as outdated as the commodore 64.
[10:15] <Agent_bob> AlmtyBob man ls
[10:15] <ompaul> AlmtyBob, ls | wc -l
[10:15] <AlmtyBob> thanks
[10:16] <AlmtyBob> yah I woulda swore I didn't see that in the man page for ls 8)
[10:17] <Agent_bob> don't you need a -1 in there
[10:17] <ompaul> AlmtyBob, that is a L
[10:17] <beppe> buongiorno
[10:17] <extern> Agent_bob, I tried to use update-rc.d, but I don't think it works
[10:17] <AlmtyBob> it's a -l
[10:17] <ompaul> !it
[10:17] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:17] <extern> or I may have done something wrong
[10:17] <Agent_bob> ls -1 | wc -l
[10:17] <michael__> So is everybody having fun w/dapper?
[10:17] <AlmtyBob> the output is lines/words/characters?
[10:18] <ompaul> AlmtyBob, help yourself with man wc
[10:18] <michael__> brb all
[10:18] <Agent_bob> extern ls /etc/rc?.d | grep <name of your script>
[10:18] <ompaul> AlmtyBob, the info you have now and that will make you much more informed (I nearly wrote uninformed :-))
[10:19] <AlmtyBob> man pages suck, I'm going to have to keep my giant command dictionary on my desk
[10:19] <Astinus-> Hulloh, the umm slashdot story about ubuntu recently mentioned that dapper would be relased tomorrow, is this most likely an estimate or definite?
[10:19] <fix-> does anybody know how to setup portforwarding using the -L command line option doing more then 1 forward ?
[10:19] <ompaul> AlmtyBob, that one is short and very very useful
[10:20] <fix-> I don't want to do 10 connections for 10 forwards
[10:20] <extern> Agent_bob, it does list it
[10:20] <SurfnKid> is this the file? http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.25.18-x86.run for the ATI card?
[10:20] <extern> but I doesn't do what it is supposed to to
[10:20] <extern> to do
[10:20] <Agent_bob> AlmtyBob yeah it's a lot easier to let us keep typing the answers over and over for you and all others than typing them one time in the manpage and let you read them.......
[10:20] <odiousone> where can i find themes for gnome?
[10:20] <ompaul> AlmtyBob, they may be hard to get used to but the thing about them is this, when you need to so something obscure and you are on a customer site :-)
[10:21] <SurfnKid> when i run 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx' i get a weird error that says its not available or needs to be from another source
[10:21] <Agent_bob> extern is your script executable ?
[10:21] <thoreauputic> !themes
[10:21] <AlmtyBob> Agent_bob: I know the whole teach a man to fish thing, I'm just saying a lot of these console commands are extremely outdated and almost intentionally obfuscated
[10:21] <extern> probably not :/
[10:21] <brad`> 15 hours sux
[10:21] <thoreauputic> !tell odiousone about themes
[10:21] <brad`> i need to install new distro now :(
[10:21] <ompaul> AlmtyBob, dear me take that to #ubuntu-offtopic you are so not right there
[10:22] <extern> it should execute 3 bash commands
[10:22] <capitanplaneta> hi, anyone knows how can I batch convert a lot of TIFF images to JPEG?
[10:22] <Agent_bob> extern try to run it.  /etc/init.d/<filename>
[10:22] <brad`> capitanplaneta, imagemagik
[10:22] <capitanplaneta> thx
[10:22] <brad`> install it and "man convert"
[10:23] <extern> hmm, I ran it from root user
[10:23] <extern> and it says permission denied
[10:23] <thoreauputic> capitanplaneta: the command in imagemagick is "convert"
[10:23] <extern> its name is "ics" and it contains this:
[10:23] <extern> iptables -F -t nat
[10:23] <extern> iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[10:23] <extern> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[10:23] <thoreauputic> brad`: oops sorry - didn't see your answerr
[10:23] <Agent_bob> extern chmod 700 /etc/init.d/yourfile
[10:23] <brad`> thoreauputic, happens a lot in a fast chann :)
[10:23] <thoreauputic> brad`: :)
[10:24] <Agent_bob> extern chown root /etc/init.d/yourfile
[10:24] <odiousone> if i install dapper will i be able to dist-upgrade when the final release comes out?
[10:24] <MrMist> Hi all
[10:24] <thoreauputic> odiousone: sure
[10:24] <extern> well it doesn't say permission deined
[10:24] <extern> but how to know if it is executed?
[10:24] <odiousone> thoreauputic: and it'll be as if i installed final?
[10:24] <ompaul> odiousone, yes, but if you update it now I do not think there will be any updates between now and then
[10:24] <MrMist> I'm searching for an open-source library to process wav/mp3 files... preferably ogg too
[10:24] <thoreauputic> odiousone: yes
[10:24] <brad`> personally i'm afraid of "dist-upgrade" :)
[10:24] <thoreauputic> brad`: why?
[10:24] <ompaul> last dapper update was 1:30 am utc
[10:25] <brad`> big operation, any my servers are offsite
[10:25] <thoreauputic> brad`: works here (tm)
[10:25] <thoreauputic> brad`: ah I see
[10:25] <MrMist> By the way... is dapper released yet ?
[10:25] <brad`> btw, does ubuntu have apache1?
[10:25] <Agent_bob> extern you want root to own it and no one else be about to write to it.   a permiscuse init script is a big security hole.      also  no error means no error.
[10:25] <thoreauputic> MrIron: nope
[10:25] <thoreauputic> MrIron: June 1st
[10:25] <extern> so will it work now?
[10:26] <Healot> tomorrow
[10:26] <brad`> 15 hours till released
[10:26] <ompaul> !dapper
[10:26] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[10:26] <Astinus-> and knoppix 5.0.1 the day after tomorrrow :P
[10:26] <ompaul> brad`, ... some time on the 1st
[10:26] <Agent_bob> extern it will do what ever the script says do......   i have no idea what you put in there/
[10:26] <brad`> wiki says 15 hours, i'm counting down to the second :)
[10:26] <brad`> its gotta counting backwards clock
[10:26] <odiousone> wait dapper final tomorrow?
[10:27] <thoreauputic> odiousone: yes
[10:27] <extern> ok, I'm going to test it
[10:27] <odiousone> ohhh
[10:27] <odiousone> :D
[10:27] <brad`> im bored. 15 hours is slow. :)
[10:27] <Astinus-> the naming of the dapper cd's is strange: Server for permanently install on a computer?
[10:27] <thoreauputic> Astinus-: no - that's the special server edition
[10:27] <Astinus-> i thought server was for using dapper as a server
[10:28] <thoreauputic> Astinus-: alternate is for text install
[10:28] <MrMist> Guys !? Anyone know a open-source app/lib for gettin parts of a wav/mp3/ogg file ???
[10:28] <brad`> its also good for lazy asses that don't like upgrading :)
[10:28] <brad`> 5 years, nice :)
[10:28] <capitanplaneta> /join #ubuntu+1
[10:28] <odiousone> if dapper's gnome network-configure doesn't save WEP keys from APs you've connected to i swear i'm gonna have to submit a patch
[10:28] <Agent_bob> MrMist audacity
[10:28] <thoreauputic> Astinus-: the desktop CD is for live & install
[10:28] <Healot> !mp3
[10:28] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:28] <Healot> for MrMist
[10:29] <thoreauputic> Astinus-: in other words what used to be called the install CD is now called "alternate"
[10:29] <Astinus-> hmm interesting
[10:29] <Astinus-> both live and install in one cd
[10:29] <thoreauputic> alternate should really be "alternative"
[10:29] <UserName14> I am trying to setup an ubuntu server and i am confused about the email aspect of the server I am following the ubuntu server guide and i have installed dovecot and postfix and both appear to be working but when i try to login via pop3 it rejects my user (i have been able to send myself an email from my gmail account) I think it could be because I have not installed the other programs listed in the guide. But I am confused about if
[10:29] <UserName14> i need the programs (i would prefer to keep this system nice and clean) Anyway anyhelp would be apreciated
[10:30] <thoreauputic> UserName14: woah
[10:30] <thoreauputic> UserName14: that's a lot of text for a fast channel...
[10:30] <UserName14> thoreauputic, sorry lol
[10:31] <Agent_bob> channel is not so fast right now.
[10:31] <ompaul> Agent_bob, you could be right you could be wrong
[10:31] <Agent_bob> see
[10:31] <UserName14> if anyone did read my post this is the link to the guide i refered to http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/email-services.html
[10:32] <thoreauputic> UserName14: you might get better answers in a dovecot &/or postfix channel - your question is pretty specialised
[10:32] <ompaul> UserName14, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Dovecot
[10:32] <UserName14> my question is about the guide
[10:32] <UserName14> my question is about the guide
[10:32] <UserName14> i want to know if i need the other software or not
[10:32] <thoreauputic> UserName14: OK
[10:32] <Healot> UserName14: it's yours to decide
[10:32] <ompaul> UserName14, did you follow that guide?
[10:33] <UserName14> yes so far, but i got the impression a lot of the stuff after dovecot was "optional" but i am having problems and dont KNOW if it was optional as the guide does not say
[10:34] <shinu> to delete a user i use 'userdel' right?
[10:34] <thoreauputic> shimmmy: deluser is easier
[10:34] <B0FH> is dapper released today or tomorrow?
[10:34] <thoreauputic> shimmmy: deluser <username>
[10:34] <visik7> probably B0FH depend on where are you in the world
[10:34] <B0FH> eastcoast usa
[10:35] <thoreauputic> B0FH: tomorrow
[10:35] <B0FH> :(
[10:35] <B0FH> lol
[10:35] <thoreauputic> B0FH: june 1st
[10:35] <Agent_bob> interesting.  if kdm starts x it's on tty7   if i startx it's on tty5 (the first open tty)  why would kdm specify tty7  ????      wouldn't that be an issue if tty7 was busy.
[10:36] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: tty7 is the usual X tty
[10:36] <rares_> Hi all
[10:37] <rares_> one small question: I have the 6.06 Desktop iso
[10:37] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: so yes, if it was busy kdm wouldn't start I guess
[10:37] <rares_> and I want to update my 5.10 Ubuntu but from CD
[10:37] <rares_> and not to download all the info again from the net
[10:37] <rares_> who do I do it?
[10:37] <thoreauputic> rares_: add the CD to synaptic or use apt-cdrom add
[10:37] <rares_> thoreauputic: I did
[10:38] <thoreauputic> rares_: did you update/reload?
[10:38] <rares_> thoreauputic: it took 5 pck from CD and started to download again
[10:38] <thoreauputic> rares_: which CD did you use?
[10:38] <thoreauputic> rares_: my understanding is you need the "alternate" CD to do that
[10:38] <thoreauputic> the desktop CD doesn't have all the packages IIRC
[10:39] <rares_> thoreauputic: this one http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso
[10:39] <thoreauputic> rares_: see above
[10:39] <rares_> thoreauputic: hmmm ok, 10x for the info
[10:39] <thoreauputic> rares_: I think you need the "alternate" CD
[10:40] <thoreauputic> rares_: not much room for packages on the "live" CD
[10:40] <noodleman> hey
[10:40] <noodleman> i need some help
[10:40] <crazy_penguin> rares: are you from romania?
[10:40] <Healot> ask, noodleman
[10:40] <thoreauputic> !tell noodleman about ask
[10:40] <crazy_penguin> rares_: are you from romania?
[10:40] <Soir> Also: there's no guarantee that all the packages one needs will be on the alternate CD, I think
[10:40] <rares_> thoreauputic: ok.. then the majority of debs will be from the CD and only those that are not will be downloaded ?
[10:40] <noodleman> I was upgrading to the ^.06 RC
[10:40] <rares_> crazy_penguin: yes
[10:40] <noodleman> 6.06*
[10:40] <crazy_penguin> ok
[10:40] <thoreauputic> rares_: I think so, yes
[10:41] <rares_> thoreauputic: 10x
[10:41] <noodleman> and after the download, during the installation, the screen just seemed to go balnk
[10:41] <rares_> crazy_penguin: why?
[10:41] <crazy_penguin> do you want to join us on ubunut-ro?
[10:41] <noodleman> the computer was on but I couldn't get a response from everything, I hadn't been keeping an eye on the upgrade and so I just restarted
[10:41] <rares_> crazy_penguin: aha, astral cluj I got it :)
[10:42] <noodleman> it's corrupted the install though :(
[10:42] <rares_> crazy_penguin: do you have 6.06 installed ?
[10:42] <crazy_penguin> yes
[10:42] <crazy_penguin> rares_: yes
[10:42] <Agent_bob> thoreauputic actually no.    it seems that it uses tty7 as the lowest tty and advances to the first free tty    so i guess they thought they knew what they were doing
[10:42] <rares_> crazy_penguin: is it faster then the 5.10? a lot faster?
[10:43] <rares_> crazy_penguin: I installed elive yesterday and it's faster then 5.10 for sure
[10:43] <crazy_penguin> that i don't know because i started with dapper
[10:43] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: you mean kdm automatically advances to the next tty ?
[10:43] <rares_> crazy_penguin: I can't wait to see 6.06
[10:43] <Agent_bob> thoreauputic yes
[10:43] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: that would make sense :)
[10:44] <Agent_bob> yeah but having a lower limit still seems strange to my way of thinking
[10:44] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: you have only 4 console/text tty s ?
[10:44] <Agent_bob> 8
[10:44] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: by default it's 6
[10:44] <Agent_bob> 1234 21 22 23 24
[10:45] <Agent_bob> i know
[10:45] <thoreauputic> ah OK - well that isn't default config, of course
[10:45] <brad`> where can i search ubuntu's packages without installing it?
[10:45] <Agent_bob> nothing default on this box
[10:45] <thoreauputic> brad`: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:45] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: :)
[10:45] <brad`> thc
[10:45] <brad`> x
[10:45] <Agent_bob> thoreauputic no partition table on the main hdd
[10:46] <brad`> thank god, apache1 :)
[10:46] <brad`> apache2 is the devil!
[10:47] <noodleman> is there any way I can wipe the hard disk from Ubuntu's command prompt?
[10:47] <thoreauputic> brad`: Works Here (tm) ;P
[10:47] <brad`> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda
[10:47] <brad`> make sure you wanna before you do that though :)
[10:47] <lawine> replace hda with the device of choice
[10:48] <Agent_bob> or /devzero
[10:48] <Agent_bob> or /dev/zero
[10:48] <Ng> urandom will take *ages*
[10:48] <brad`> thoreauputic, it gets yukky when you try write modules
[10:48] <aylov> its /dev/null
[10:48] <brad`> i like to do job properly :)
[10:48] <Ng> dev/null won't produce anything
[10:48] <Ng> dev/zero will produce zeros
[10:48] <Agent_bob> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[10:49] <[nige] > anyone having problems with dapper and kde?
[10:49] <[nige] > i know goto #ubuntu+1 :P
[10:49] <noodleman> hmm im slightly confused
[10:49] <Agent_bob> [nige]  only that it's ugly
[10:49] <h3sp4wn> [nige] : What is the problem ?
[10:49] <lawine> if you really want to remove all trace of Windows or the Pr0n,  do the wipe-thing several times :)
[10:49] <brad`> whats with [universe]  ?
[10:49] <[nige] > hmm i cant update anymore
[10:49] <[nige] > i have unmet dependancies
[10:49] <thoreauputic> brad`: pardon?
[10:50] <brad`> apache (1.3.34-2) [universe] 
[10:50] <ompaul> !universe
[10:50] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:50] <Agent_bob> [nige]  sudo apt-get install -f
[10:50] <[nige] > kdebase-bin (= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu26) but 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu23 is installed ---thats my probelm
[10:50] <[nige] > Agent_bob, i tried that
[10:50] <[nige] > it didnt works
[10:50] <Agent_bob> what that does for ya ?
[10:50] <thoreauputic> brad`: it's in the universe repo prewumably
[10:50] <ompaul> brad`, use apache2 :-)
[10:50] <thoreauputic> *presumably
[10:51] <Agent_bob> lets see the error man.
[10:51] <Agent_bob> [nige]   ?
[10:51] <brad`> ompaul, apache2 has lazy internals
[10:51] <[nige] > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:51] <[nige] >   kdesktop: Depends: kdebase-bin (= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu23) but 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu26 is to be installed
[10:51] <[nige] > E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)
[10:51] <thoreauputic> [nige] : and did you try what it said?
[10:52] <Agent_bob> and that is from sudo apt-get install -f   ?
[10:52] <[nige] > whoops my bad
[10:52] <[nige] > :)
[10:52] <[nige] > i did the sudo apt-get -f install package name
[10:52] <[nige] > :S
[10:52] <thoreauputic> ;P
[10:52] <[nige] > thoreauputic, cheers :P
[10:52] <noodleman> how can I see a list of my hard disks and their partitions and names?
[10:52] <thoreauputic> [nige] : heheh :)
[10:53] <aztun> noodleman: mount
[10:53] <thoreauputic> noodleman: df -h or sudo fdisk -l
[10:53] <[nige] > does gnome support different wallpapers on desktop like kde 3.5 does?
[10:53] <brad`> fdisk
[10:53] <Agent_bob> noodleman sudo fdisk -l
[10:53] <noodleman> thanks thoreaupeutic
[10:53] <helpme> hello
[10:53] <helpme> I need help with getting java
[10:53] <helpme> I have heard of blackdown Java
[10:53] <helpme> but I cannot get it
[10:53] <[nige] > tis pretty much the only reason i run kde :)
[10:53] <helpme> it always fails
[10:54] <thoreauputic> !tell helpme about repos
[10:54] <brad`> [nige] , i couldn't get it to, but you can make a large wallpaper in gimp :)
[10:54] <brad`> [nige] , your talking dual screen?
[10:54] <helpme> the piece of crap will download 2 MB of 21
[10:54] <thoreauputic> !java
[10:54] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:54] <helpme> then just crap out
[10:54] <SurfnKid> hey Agent_bob how do I save my X window config file
[10:54] <brad`> !hello
[10:54] <ubotu> Hi, brad`!
[10:54] <[nige] > brad`, yer i could but tahts effort :P yes using daul screen
[10:54] <igorzolnikov> UBUNTU IS NICE.... BUT VERY VERY VERY SLOW!!!
[10:54] <cth23> hi
[10:54] <SurfnKid> igor its fast here :)
[10:55] <thoreauputic> igcek: check your caps key please
[10:55] <brad`> igorzolnikov, i've heard that before
[10:55] <helpme> yeah I have multiverse
[10:55] <vinboy> igorzolnikov: recompile ur kernel
[10:55] <knfire> hello
[10:55] <helpme> but it wont downlaod from there
[10:55] <helpme> it just dies
[10:55] <vinboy> igorzolnikov: take out everything u dun need
[10:55] <Healot> igorzolnikov: if you have slow CPU and low RAM :)
[10:55] <helpme> or comes up "failed"
[10:55] <SurfnKid> !xwindow
[10:55] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid
[10:55] <elliott> hi
[10:55] <Agent_bob> helpme uncommented ?    no  # at the front of the line ?
[10:56] <helpme> yes I have downloaded other packages from multiverse as well
[10:56] <helpme> many of the media codecs are there
[10:56] <SurfnKid> how do you save your X Window config file?
[10:56] <helpme> and I have all of them
[10:56] <igorzolnikov> RAM: 1Gb; CPU 1GHz;
[10:56] <helpme> but I can't get java from some reason
[10:56] <Healot> igorzolnikov: define "slow"
[10:56] <Agent_bob> idk
[10:56] <thoreauputic> SurfnKid: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[10:56] <[nige] > hmm i dont have a problem with ubntu and i run on a celeron laptop with 256mb ram :)
[10:56] <SurfnKid> ty
[10:56] <aztun> SurfnKid: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /dev/null
[10:56] <aztun> maybe
[10:57] <[nige] > its pretty happy :>
[10:57] <helpme> I will be back
[10:57] <thoreauputic> aztun: *cough*
[10:57] <helpme> I think I found an FTP server that has it
[10:57] <Flannel> aztun: that sort of stuff will get you banned.
[10:57] <igorzolnikov> Processor use 5-10% only
[10:57] <thoreauputic> aztun: that will send it to the bit bucket
[10:57] <SurfnKid> hehe
[10:57] <aztun> ey
[10:57] <aztun> just joking
[10:57] <igorzolnikov> Memory only 40%
[10:57] <aztun> :)
[10:57] <thoreauputic> aztun: not funny
[10:57] <mibuk> hey
[10:57] <Agent_bob> igorzolnikov it's all that ram that slows it down.    i have 98m ram on this p100mmx  and it works fine.
[10:57] <SurfnKid> im just one step from rebooting, ATI just finished installing drivers, but said to back up X Window so i gotta do that
[10:57] <petrik> Ok samba and nfs are beyond me. (god only knows how I'm going to get the printer to work on the other PC) What's the best ftp solution out there?
[10:57] <thoreauputic> aztun: there new people here who don't know
[10:58] <dobblego> I am trying to mount a Windows share using mount -t smbfs but I am getting a messge in syslog "smbfs: mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported" - why come?
[10:58] <mibuk> is there a new unstable / development depot now that dapper is in total feature freeze?  i.e. I want vim7.0 and gcc4.1 if they are available and am happy to be running unstable
[10:58] <igorzolnikov> My firefox scroll page very slow
[10:58] <igorzolnikov> Rendering very slow
[10:58] <[nige] > well that could be slow internet
[10:58] <Healot> igorzolnikov: i think it's your X server config
[10:58] <Agent_bob> could be firefox
[10:59] <igorzolnikov> All window slow rendering
[10:59] <Healot> that's why your screen draws slow
[10:59] <igorzolnikov> i use standard config
[10:59] <aztun> igorzolnikov: maybe u havent good driver for your vga
[10:59] <Healot> you misconfigured X somehow...
[10:59] <igorzolnikov> i don't change
[10:59] <igorzolnikov> may be
[10:59] <aztun> maybe u are using vesa driver
[10:59] <igorzolnikov> how can i know?
[10:59] <Agent_bob> yeah it's all that ram.....
[11:00] <Agent_bob> that's the problem
[11:00] <Agent_bob> :)
[11:00] <aztun>  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[11:00] <SurfnKid> brb rebOOOt
[11:00] <aztun> to see which driver u are using
[11:01] <igorzolnikov>         Driver          "kbd"
[11:01] <igorzolnikov>         Driver          "mouse"
[11:01] <igorzolnikov>   Driver        "wacom"
[11:01] <igorzolnikov>   Driver        "wacom"
[11:01] <igorzolnikov>   Driver        "wacom"
[11:01] <igorzolnikov>         Driver          "vesa"
[11:01] <aztun> driver vesa, I told u    :)
[11:01] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: DO NOT paste in here!
[11:01] <igorzolnikov> how can i change?
[11:01] <[nige] > igorzolnikov, you use ati right....
[11:01] <Agent_bob> three wacoms and a vesa  wins this hand
[11:01] <dobblego> by removing the CTRL or V key from your keyboard
[11:01] <igorzolnikov> may be
[11:02] <aztun> lspci | grep VGA
[11:02] <Healot> igorzolnikov: "less /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and paste the output to pastebin.com
[11:02] <aztun> too see which vga u use
[11:02] <igorzolnikov> 0000:00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2)
[11:02] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[11:02] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:03] <Agent_bob> and there you have it.
[11:04] <dobblego> everywhere I google for my error message tells me that I do not have smbfs installed - isn't that the samba package? if so, I have it installed
[11:05] <Agent_bob> smbfs - mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x)
[11:05] <[nige] > anyone got fn keys to work on laptops?
[11:05] <dobblego> how can I assert that smbfs is installed?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> general warning: the channel will be busy because of the release - we will be muting on paste - no more mister nice guy
[11:05] <[nige] > i think its apt-query -s smbfs
[11:05] <Agent_bob> dobblego sudo apt-get install smbfs
[11:05] <dobblego> dapper has been released?
[11:06] <igorzolnikov> how can i know GF1 or GF2?
[11:06] <Healot> tomorrow
[11:06] <Soir> smbfs always breaks for me
[11:06] <Soir> use cifs
[11:06] <dobblego> http://rafb.net/paste/results/S3y4M874.html what's that?
[11:07] <Agent_bob> libjcifs-java - java library for the CIFS/SMB networking protocol
[11:07] <dobblego> tomorrow dapper is released?
[11:08] <Agent_bob> dobblego do the sudo apt-get update and try it again
[11:08] <dobblego> Agent_bob: yeah I am, thanks
[11:08] <igorzolnikov> how can i know GeForce1 or GeForce2?
[11:08] <Agent_bob> lshw
[11:09] <dobblego> Agent_bob: that fixed it all - the smb mount worked, thanks
[11:09] <Agent_bob> np
[11:10] <mwhitby> hi everyone, i have a fetchmail question that i hope someone can help with:
[11:10] <dobblego> where can I read about the ubuntu release schedule?
[11:10] <mwhitby> I want to download mail to a local user account but also forward it to a remote pop3 user
[11:10] <Agent_bob> http://www.ubuntu.com   maybe ?
[11:10] <Flannel> dobblego: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule
[11:11] <mwhitby> anyone have any ideas how to help with that?
[11:11] <igorzolnikov> i have Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[11:12] <Agent_bob> nothing that doesn't sound convoluted mwhitby
[11:12] <igorzolnikov> when...  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:12] <mwhitby> Agent_bob, cheers for the answer, I had a bad feeling that would be the case :S
[11:13] <Soir> 'dapper is a LTS release: its cycle will be RIGID and BORING'
[11:13] <Soir> I am amused
[11:13] <dobblego> ~LTS
[11:14] <Agent_bob> LTS ?
[11:14] <Flannel> Long Term Support (or something like that)
[11:14] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: Long Term Support
[11:14] <Frogzoo> !dapper
[11:14] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[11:14] <thoreauputic> 3 years desktop, 5 for servers
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> mwhitby: You can (need to ?) use procmail for forwarding
[11:15] <igorzolnikov> i installes NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver
[11:15] <igorzolnikov> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:15] <Frogzoo> so is Dapper releasing tomorrows?
[11:15] <dobblego> my missus reckons ubuntu rocks, except I can't get our printer to work
[11:15] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: ubuntu uses xorg, not free86
[11:15] <mwhitby> h3sp4wn, ah ok thats interesting as i want to acheive this: download mail from a users mailbox, forward it to another user and also auto-respond to the mail informing the user in on vacation
[11:16] <kaas> vacation will be fine
[11:16] <mwhitby> i was going to use procmail to do the latter part, so you think the best way would be to use fetchmail to download, then procmail to auto reply and foward?
[11:16] <Fillado> Frogzoo: Yup
[11:16] <igorzolnikov> what can i do?
[11:16] <kaas> nothing
[11:16] <Frogzoo> Fillado: thx
[11:16] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: follow the wiki
[11:16] <mwhitby> kaas, can vacation acheive everything i specified?
[11:16] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[11:16] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:17] <kaas> I guess so
[11:18] <Starkoziz> Hello! i'mlooking for someone who has compiled VLC with the MBAFF support. I tried to do it on my own but it did not work
[11:18] <Agent_bob> i have a half a mind to
[11:18] <Agent_bob> o
[11:18] <igorzolnikov> i have not other nvidia-glx-legacy...
[11:19] <kaas> what a shame
[11:19] <igorzolnikov> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:20] <igorzolnikov> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[11:20] <igorzolnikov> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[11:20] <igorzolnikov> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[11:20] <igorzolnikov> command:
[11:20] <igorzolnikov> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[11:20] <igorzolnikov> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[11:20] <igorzolnikov> from nv to nvidia.
[11:20] <Jimmey__> !paste
[11:20] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[11:20] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: I warned you not to paste - please read the /topic
[11:20] <Xebitx> when doing bash scripting can one use elseif?
[11:21] <thoreauputic> Xebitx: elif I think
[11:21] <kaas> ppor igorzolnikov
[11:21] <kaas> poor igorzolnikov
[11:21] <thoreauputic> kaas: I wArned him, and gave a general channel warning as well
[11:22] <Agent_bob> looks like the instructions igorzolnikov pasted are pretty sf
[11:22] <kaas> alright
[11:23] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: don't do it again!
[11:23] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: you are no longer gagged
[11:24] <igorzolnikov> :-)
[11:24] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: if you paste again you will be kick-banned
[11:24] <igorzolnikov> i have error... then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:25] <igorzolnikov> plz help... without... talk about ban ban ban
[11:25] <Agent_bob> igorzolnikov we saw that.     so do what the error message said.
[11:25] <igorzolnikov> i have not time
[11:25] <defrysk> igorzolnikov, are you useing dapper ?
[11:25] <igorzolnikov> yes
[11:25] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: /join #ubuntu+1
[11:25] <igorzolnikov> last version with all update
[11:25] <defrysk> nvidia-xconfig
[11:25] <defrysk> try that
[11:25] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: wrong cahnnel for dapper
[11:26] <defrysk> use sudo
[11:26] <thoreauputic> *channel
[11:26] <Soir> (for all of one day)
[11:26] <igorzolnikov> thanks... :-)
[11:26] <Agent_bob> hmmmm no time.
[11:26] <thoreauputic> Soir: I'm reducing noise ;)
[11:26] <defrysk> thoreauputic, I think hardly anyone here stil uses breezy
[11:26] <Soir> thoreauputic: It's relatively quiet just now ;)
[11:26] <Kholerabbi> Gnome or KDE?
[11:26] <thoreauputic> defrysk: true
[11:26] <Flannel> defrysk: I do.  Well, on my important machine.
[11:26] <MrMist> I'm using Breezy
[11:26] <Agent_bob> Kholerabbi bb
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Soir: igorzolnikov wasn't quiet until I gagged him ;)
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Soir: but yes, dapper is almost here, agreed :)
[11:27] <defrysk> igorzolnikov, did that work ?
[11:27] <igorzolnikov> no
[11:27] <defrysk> o?
[11:28] <defrysk> anyway , have to shower
[11:28] <igorzolnikov> thoreauputic plz help... without empty talk
[11:28] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: it wasn't empty talk and you should have paid attention to it
[11:29] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: telling an op that his warnings are empty is not a good strategy by the way
[11:29] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:29] <defrysk> igorzolnikov, sudo nvidia-xconfig should do the trick if you have nvidia-glx installed
[11:29] <igorzolnikov>  i will try
[11:30] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, there is no try, there is just do
[11:30] <igorzolnikov> i have not nvidia-xconfig
[11:30] <defrysk> ompaul, you talk like a nike rep ;p
[11:30] <igorzolnikov> install?
[11:30] <ompaul> !nvidia
[11:30] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:30] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, ^^^ read that line there
[11:30] <ompaul> it works!
[11:31] <thoreauputic> ompaul: he has beemn told 3 times already
[11:31] <thoreauputic> ompaul: and gaggedfor pasting as well
[11:31] <Agent_bob> igorzolnikov sudo nano /etc/X11/sorg.conf       hit  F6  type  nv   and  replace the   mv with nvidia     hit F3   save and exit.
[11:32] <PlumTree> Hello ;-) My firefox is still looking for lacking plugins, but it lasts almost half an hour...
[11:33] <PlumTree> I do not know what to do with this problem because it doesnt seem to find them.
[11:33] <Lukic> I got Ubuntu 6.06 Live CD but it won't boot.How to set it?
[11:33] <Jimmey__> Lukic, have you set up your BIOS boot order correctly?
[11:33] <Lukic> I have.
[11:34] <Jimmey__> And do other CDs boot with this machine?
[11:34] <igorzolnikov> i don't want vi-liked application
[11:34] <Lukic> I got cdrom as first boot
[11:34] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: peopel try to help and you tell them what you don't want ...
[11:34] <Lukic> Didn't try
[11:34] <Agent_bob> wont work/wont boot  is not quite vague enough for us to tatally ignore you.   try     help!    that should be vague enough
[11:34] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: at least try
[11:35] <igorzolnikov> use nano
[11:35] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, some times in life there is great freedom in having no choice, it appears you have been told several times how to fix this, in great detail
[11:36] <ompaul> igorzolnikov,  and at a high level - please take the advice and use it, or you will find that you can't ask for any at all
[11:37] <igorzolnikov> i am stupid
[11:37] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, not taking the advice which is explicit is a stupid action, I doubt that your are stupid however
[11:37] <igorzolnikov> 1) i installed nvidia-glx-legacy,
[11:38] <igorzolnikov> 2) i tried sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:38] <igorzolnikov> 3) i have error
[11:38] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, maybe you need to take a break and come back to it later and start at the beginning of the web page and work through it again
[11:41] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: what is your first/ native language ?
[11:42] <kris> salut
[11:42] <ompaul> !fr
[11:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:42] <igorzolnikov> russia
[11:42] <ompaul> !ru
[11:42] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:42] <igorzolnikov> i speak english very bad
[11:42] <kris> hello
[11:42] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: go to the russian channel - they might help better
[11:42] <igorzolnikov> no
[11:42] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, they may be able to help you better
[11:42] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: again you ignore our advice...
[11:43] <Agent_bob> DONT YELL !
[11:43] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: if you won't go to your language channel and won't do what we suggest, why are you here at all?
[11:43] <ompaul> Agent_bob, ?
[11:43] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: ?
[11:44] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: who's yelling?
[11:44] <Agent_bob> oh just me
[11:44] <igorzolnikov> because little people in russian channel...
[11:44] <thoreauputic> exactly :)
[11:44] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: ah, Ok - well as ompaul suggests, try re-reading the wiki page
[11:44] <Agent_bob> trying to take the heat off of our red troll
[11:44] <igorzolnikov> ubuntu not popular in russia
[11:45] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: it will work if you follow it carefully
[11:45] <Agent_bob> DONT YELL !
[11:45] <Agent_bob> :)
[11:45] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: careful ....
[11:45] <ompaul> :-)
[11:45] <igorzolnikov> because many free windows... :-)
[11:45] <thoreauputic> heh
[11:45] <ompaul> Agent_bob, don't I am not in the humour :)
[11:45] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: we are both in BOFH mode - be warned ;)
[11:46] <igorzolnikov> in russia... don't buy... ms windows... only crack :-)
[11:46] <igorzolnikov> may be wiki for 5.10... i have ubuntu 6.06
[11:47] <Agent_bob> i know.  that's why i was trying...  i can take it.  that guy is sure to get the ax.
[11:47] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, stop wait
[11:47] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: try #ubuntu+1
[11:47] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, this conversation is over  http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/
[11:47] <cached> urgent: how do i put the letter pi in oo draw
[11:48] <MrSmile> Hi people.... I am totally happy wirh ubuntu but have problems to initialize and to set the runlevels
[11:48] <MrSmile> Can somebody help me?!
[11:48] <Astinus-> MrSmile: more specific?
[11:49] <cached> ctrl shift F#
[11:49] <MrSmile> for example, I want /etc/init.d/mysql.server is being started
[11:49] <Agent_bob> MrSmile sure
[11:49] <ompaul> cached,  get that by insert special character    OO.org
[11:49] <MrSmile> i can't get it, that it started at boot time and stops at shutdown
[11:50] <Astinus-> you want mysql to startup when starting ubuntu?
[11:50] <MrSmile> If i enter Gnome. the services application, also I see many things not listed
[11:50] <Agent_bob> MrSmile pastebin the script ?
[11:50] <ompaul> MrSmile, 345 not used 0 off 1 single user 2 full on 6 reboot
[11:50] <igorzolnikov> thanks ompaul... but... russian instructions equals english... i will try again
[11:50] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, guess you need to join a lug
[11:50] <blue-frog> MrSmile, update-rc.d mysql-server start 2 3 4 5 . stop 0 1 6 .
[11:50] <Flannel> igorzolnikov: this is strictly a breezy (5.10) support channel, for another day or so.  #ubuntu+1 for dapper support.
[11:50] <igorzolnikov> nvidia-glx
[11:50] <igorzolnikov> i will try
[11:51] <cached> thx
[11:51] <igorzolnikov> in ubuntu+1 don't answer me
[11:51] <MrSmile> I will try it
[11:51] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: patience
[11:51] <thoreauputic> !patience
[11:51] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[11:51] <keyrole1> hello?
[11:52] <Flannel> keyrole1: hi.
[11:52] <Agent_bob> MrSmile that update-rc.d string ^     expects the script to be in the proper format.   is it a home made script ?
[11:53] <keyrole1> this is my first time here...i was wondering if i cud get assistance with prinitng services for Ubuntu
[11:53] <HymnToLife> !printer
[11:53] <ubotu> hmm... printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[11:53] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, read this web page and stop talking about nvidia here  http://www.linux.org/groups/russia.html
[11:54] <keyrole1> thanx ubotu. checking out the site now.
[11:54] <ompaul> !ubotu
[11:54] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[11:54] <FTLOG> help me for the love of God, I have used the package o matic tool and I have YET to get package list that doen't have atleast some part fail to load
[11:54] <Piotsze> can i have some link to installing the opera web browser please ?
[11:54] <FTLOG> this is utterly maddening
[11:54] <thoreauputic> !opera
[11:54] <ubotu> download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ (breezy) or http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-284/intel-linux/ (dapper) to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[11:54] <FTLOG> can someone please send me a valid package list
[11:54] <FTLOG> ?
[11:54] <ompaul> FTLOG, for which version
[11:54] <Piotsze> ty very much
[11:54] <FTLOG> dapper
[11:54] <MrMist> I need a audio splitter that can handle mutpile formats... anyone know what I should use ??
[11:55] <YogSothoth> Hi
[11:55] <FTLOG> I know that the official package list disigner on ubuntu is supposed to work
[11:55] <FTLOG> BUT IT DOESN"T
[11:55] <FTLOG> the lists it generates fail utterly
[11:55] <ompaul> packages.ubuntu.com/dapper
[11:55] <FTLOG> I need a repository list that is
[11:55] <Agent_bob> FTLOG package list  or  suorces.list ?
[11:55] <thoreauputic> FTLOG: works here and in many other systems
[11:55] <FTLOG> sources.list
[11:55] <YogSothoth> When I boot Ubuntu my Windows disk is auto detected and auto mounted... but as root ! So I can't read it
[11:55] <FTLOG> that is
[11:55] <FTLOG> and I am using the tool
[11:55] <thoreauputic> FTLOG: which tool?
[11:55] <YogSothoth> How can I tell Ubuntu to mount it as my user?
[11:56] <FTLOG> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:56] <FTLOG> that file that someone sent me
[11:56] <keyrole1> okay thank you, bye
[11:56] <FTLOG> where does it save?
[11:56] <FTLOG> because it did not appear on my desktop when it was done downloading?
[11:56] <thoreauputic> FTLOG:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:56] <Agent_bob> FTLOG install in /etc/apt/  and do  sudo apt-get update
[11:56] <FTLOG> I am using xchat
[11:57] <thoreauputic> FTLOG: DCC depends on your client - ~/.xchat2 for xchat
[11:57] <Agent_bob> FTLOG try $HOME
[11:57] <FTLOG> nope
[11:57] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: id thet xchat default for dcc now?
[11:57] <ompaul> YogSothoth, change the entry in fstab to change the word defaults into ntfs user,umask=000
[11:58] <thoreauputic> FTLOG: try ~/.xchat2
[11:58] <FTLOG> is there a link to an ideal sourcelist someone can give me?
[11:58] <Agent_bob> FTLOG type find /home -name sources.list
[11:58] <ompaul> YogSothoth, /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0  <<< it should look like that
[11:59] <Piotsze> is it true that ubuntu is based on debian ?
[11:59] <thoreauputic> Piotsze: yes
[11:59] <thoreauputic> Piotsze: very much so
[11:59] <FTLOG> the damned thing is contradicting itself
[11:59] <thoreauputic> cafuego_: what's the matter? ;-)
[11:59] <FTLOG> /home/kevin/.xchat2: is a directory
[12:00] <FTLOG> xchat2: No such file or directory
[12:00] <thoreauputic> FTLOG: yes, look in there
[12:00] <FTLOG> how can it be a directory
[12:00] <cafuego_> the summer weather here in holland has been the same as the winter weather in melbourne for the past 2 1/2 weks
[12:00] <thoreauputic> FTLOG: erm
[12:00] <FTLOG> and there be "no such directory"?
[12:00] <Flannel> FTLOG: with a .
[12:00] <thoreauputic> FTLOG: it's a "hidden " dir
[12:00] <Piotsze> i was searching for some apps in debian new release (stable) and i was wondering why in  the hell it has some older apps like firefox 1.0.4  and not like that 1.0.8 in ubuntu
[12:00] <thoreauputic> FTLOG: the dot hides it
[12:00] <Flannel> FTLOG: you need to have the . in the name to cd to.
[12:01] <Agent_bob> FTLOG /home/kevin/.xchat2
[12:01] <thoreauputic> cafuego_: wish you were here... glorious weather /me ducks
[12:01] <Tangotango> Hi, I have a problem with the Breezy Badger-provided version of Firefox and its caret painting - the caret remains even when I move to a different character with the keyboard
[12:01] <ompaul> cafuego_, its not summer yet
[12:01] <HymnToLife> !tell Piotsze about debian
[12:01] <Flannel> Piotsze: FF 1.0.8 IS in the repositories.
[12:01] <thoreauputic> ompaul: is it ever ?
[12:02] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ;)
[12:02] <HymnToLife> they have a different policy about package updating
[12:02] <cafuego_> ompaul: Fair enough, but FROST at night is overdoing it
[12:02] <Piotsze> o
[12:02] <ompaul> cafuego_, okay I will go for that
[12:02] <igorzolnikov> i installed nvidia-glx... and Driver "nvidia" in xorg.conf... but window rendering very slow... again
[12:02] <ompaul> !nftsperms
[12:02] <ubotu> ompaul: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:03] <FTLOG> ok I think I found one
[12:03] <Immolo> heya is dapper still be realsed tomorrow?
[12:03] <Agent_bob> Piotsze debian stable means stable.
[12:03] <thoreauputic> igorzolnikov: then you did something wrong, clearly
[12:03] <FTLOG> thanks guys
[12:03] <Piotsze> yeah i think this was good idea to migrate to ubuntu from microsoft os, gez i had so much trojans, viruses, etc. etc.
[12:04] <thoreauputic> ;P
[12:04] <ompaul> !winfstab
[12:04] <ubotu> in fstab it should look **like** this:: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0
[12:04] <ompaul> well done to whoever
[12:04] <igorzolnikov> i use ubuntu on other computer... and have not this problem
[12:05] <TIIPOS> back
[12:05] <TIIPOS> i need help
[12:05] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, or it does not have that card
[12:05] <TIIPOS> why does synaptic list packagest that is cannot download?
[12:05] <thoreauputic> cafuego_: BTW thanks for the Airport firmware stuff :)
[12:05] <Piotsze> yeah dapper is comming but whot bout kubuntu - would it be too with cd-release on dapper ?
[12:05] <Agent_bob> TIIPOS did you sudo apt-get update ?
[12:06] <TIIPOS> yes
[12:06] <TIIPOS> I did
[12:06] <thoreauputic> ompaul: it was only a matter of time...
[12:06] <Bimmerman1911> ubotu: what is the difference of iocharset=utf8 and nls=utf8?
[12:06] <ubotu> Bimmerman1911: what are you talking about?
[12:06] <TIIPOS> and then i looked for a package
[12:06] <TIIPOS> and found it
[12:06] <TIIPOS> in synaptic
[12:06] <TIIPOS> when I tried to install it
[12:06] <TIIPOS> it downloaded 76#
[12:06] <TIIPOS> 76% that is
[12:06] <TIIPOS> and then failed?
[12:06] <TIIPOS> why would it list a package that it cannot send to you?
[12:06] <thoreauputic> !enter
[12:06] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:06] <Agent_bob> it didn't.
[12:07] <TIIPOS> sorry about that
[12:07] <Piotsze> that means flood, right ?
[12:07] <K|NgGh0sT> since I am being forced to use UBUNTU, what is the closest release to Debian's etch?
[12:07] <Agent_bob> if you got 76% it's not synaptics fault
[12:07] <ompaul> Piotsze, that does, paste.ubuntu-nl.org is the same
[12:07] <Bimmerman1911> what is the difference of iocharset=utf8 and nls=utf8 anyone?
[12:07] <TIIPOS> then whose fault is it Agent_bob?
[12:08] <thoreauputic> TIIPOS: possibly the server
[12:08] <Piotsze> ok thx i will keep it on my mind to give links on priv.. ;)
[12:08] <ompaul> TIIPOS, look at your network or service provider or server - change servers
[12:08] <Agent_bob> TIIPOS try in the terminal sudo apt-get install <package name>   so you can see the error message if it fails
[12:09] <ompaul> Piotsze, you can give links in the channel to paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then people can view them and maybe help
[12:09] <Bimmerman1911> hello! im trying to download to a vfat partition with azureus and i get the error Operation not permitted, setLength fails, whats wrong?????
[12:09] <Agent_bob> also doing it that way, if it's the connection you can resume but running the same command again.
[12:09] <TIIPOS> I mean how am I supposed to administrate my system if I cannot rely on it?
[12:09] <Piotsze> o i c thats very helpfull i think so
[12:09] <K|NgGh0sT> Doesnt Ubuntu use a netinst?
[12:10] <Agent_bob> TIIPOS find the problem, then work on the answer
[12:10] <thoreauputic> TIIPOS: the problem is more likely the server or the network - synaptic is very reliable
[12:10] <ompaul> TIIPOS, I have webservers running with it doing virtual domains and mail and stuff, I have desktops running it - no problems change your repo to point to something else - where is it pointing at the moment?
[12:10] <Agent_bob> me bets wireless inet there....
[12:12] <TIIPOS> its pointing to NL
[12:12] <thoreauputic> Bimmerman1911 has an attention span of 2 minutes, aparrently ...
[12:12] <TIIPOS> just now
[12:12] <TIIPOS> I was using CA
[12:12] <TIIPOS> and it was failing
[12:12] <TIIPOS> so I switched everything to NL
[12:12] <ompaul> TIIPOS, well where are you ?
[12:12] <TIIPOS> and for the moment its working
[12:12] <Piotsze> lol i have just installed my opera =) COOL thx for links! this is surelly the best chan i have ever seen
[12:12] <thoreauputic> TIIPOS: try removing the nl.
[12:12] <TIIPOS> I am in the USA
[12:12] <TIIPOS> but the US ones sucked even worse
[12:13] <thoreauputic> TIIPOS: the us mirror is very flaky, yes
[12:13] <TIIPOS> the nl is actually working for the moment actually :)
[12:13] <thoreauputic> TIIPOS: good
[12:13] <Hannibal> I'm assuming this is the right place to ask about networking trouble on a new install of Ubuntu Breezy Badger? :)
[12:13] <TIIPOS> I like ubuntu though
[12:13] <TIIPOS> the thing is working great
[12:13] <TIIPOS> asside from that problem
[12:13] <Agent_bob> so now cuss synaptic....
[12:13] <ompaul> TIIPOS, us is bad on a regular basis, however if all of them are failing then look at your network
[12:13] <ompaul> Agent_bob, yeah yeah noted :-)
[12:14] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:14] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:14] <TIIPOS> nl is great actually
[12:14] <Hannibal> ompaul: was that directed at me? I'm assuming it wasn't, but... :)
[12:14] <thoreauputic> how long has the us. mirror been unreliable? Months at least - has anything been done about it?
[12:14] <ompaul> Hannibal, no I was going to ask you for some elephants
[12:14] <TIIPOS> wow it actually got all of kubuntu
[12:15] <Hannibal> ompaul: most of them died a few thousand years ago. It was great fun being in the alps though.
[12:15] <thoreauputic> TIIPOS: enjoy :)
[12:15] <seth> Is there a way in ubuntu to RAID Striped two firewire drives??
[12:15] <ompaul> TIIPOS, this is a support channel, if you want to chatter please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:15] <mjr> seth, sure
[12:16] <mjr> seth, just attach the drives, umount if they're automounted, and create the raid as normal (see the Software-RAID-HOWTO)
[12:16] <Hannibal> so... suppose I have a laptop with a tulip-compatible ethernet card and an Atheros-G pcmcia wireless card.
[12:16] <Piotsze> can i close my x-chat to icon too like my friend has it?
[12:16] <Hannibal> both used to work exceptionally well when I was still running Debian 3.1
[12:16] <seth> Thanks...
[12:17] <Hannibal> I used to run trunk madwifi and wpa_supplicant for the wireless, though.
[12:17] <Hannibal> anyway.
[12:17] <seth> I think that I will be in here more often...
[12:17] <Hannibal> Since switching to Ubuntu, I've been having trouble getting DHCP to work.
[12:17] <Piotsze> yeah i think the same
[12:17] <seth> I just installed ubuntu on my Mac mini
[12:17] <MrMist> I haven't used CVS a lot... it's quite confusing. i want to download these files, but I can't resolve the CVSROOT from the URL
[12:17] <ompaul> Hannibal, serve or recieve?
[12:17] <Hannibal> ompaul: receive.
[12:17] <MrMist> http://sox.cvs.sourceforge.net/sox/
[12:18] <MrMist> what do I do ??
[12:18] <Hannibal> ompaul: mii-diag says everything's fine, the network icon indicates that there's traffic, but dhclient just fails to pick up anything.
[12:18] <MrMist> export CVSROOT="" ??
[12:18] <noodle> any mirrors have dapper final yet
[12:18] <ompaul> Hannibal, I had that on a box, had to replace the card
[12:18] <thoreauputic> noodle: no, since it comes out tomorrow
[12:18] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:18] <Hannibal> ompaul: hrm, any clue why that'd work fine with Debian stable then?
[12:19] <thoreauputic> noodle: unless your time machine is well oiled
[12:19] <ompaul> Hannibal, it used to work and then it did not and then it did and then ... one day it did not at all
[12:19] <Hannibal> ompaul: and besides, this is a laptop - fat chance of getting a new card
[12:19] <ompaul> ooch
[12:19] <seth> Does anyone mind if I am idle in here ??
[12:19] <noodle> why not release it one day early :(
[12:19] <Healot> seth: no?
[12:19] <ompaul> seth, no
[12:19] <seth> Thanks...
[12:19] <thoreauputic> seth: hundreds already are ;)
[12:19] <seth> TTYL
[12:19] <seth> lol
[12:20] <seth> Yeah
[12:20] <seth> IC
[12:20] <ompaul> !enter
[12:20] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:20] <Agent_bob> seth but enter is not punctuation
[12:20] <seth> What does the enter key do in here??
[12:20] <seth> Nothing...
[12:20] <thoreauputic> seth: beware the wrath of the ops !
[12:21] <defrysk> the wrops
[12:21] <Agent_bob> scrolls the text we are trying to read
[12:21] <seth> Serously... what am I doing wrong??
[12:21] <thoreauputic> seth: just don't break your stuff up into multiple lines
[12:21] <Hannibal> ompaul: the wireless card is fairly new... so from my perspective, it's a problem with whatever dhclient Ubuntu is running. Also, this may be relevant... the interface does pick up packets, and it lists a fair amount of them as 'errors' - is there any way to inspect those or somehow figure out what's going wrong with them?
[12:21] <ompaul> etherreal
[12:21] <ompaul> forget ntfsperms
[12:22] <seth> is this ok??
[12:22] <Hannibal> good point.
[12:22] <thoreauputic> seth:  Use sentences, with punctuation and clauses and the usual things expected in civilised discourse. ;)
[12:22] <Agent_bob> and smillies (:
[12:22] <seth> Ok I will I just did not know. Thank you.
[12:22] <seth> :)
[12:23] <thoreauputic> seth: no worries ;)
[12:23] <Hannibal> hrm. Is etherreal not in the repositories?
[12:23] <seth> Going to school BBL O_o
[12:23] <noodle> how easy is it to upgrade from RC to final?
[12:24] <Agent_bob> noodle two commands
[12:24] <Healot> apt-get ?
[12:25] <Agent_bob> Healot yeah apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:25] <thoreauputic> ompaul: good luck ;)
[12:25] <Hannibal> hrm.
[12:26] <Hannibal> mental note: complain to uni's IT department that we need cd burners and a cd-r vending machine in here.
[12:26] <Hannibal> I'd install dapper right now to see if it's any better, and apt-get is not getting anywhere without a network connection.
[12:26] <cached> pff
[12:26] <Astinus-> a little bit weird question probably, but i recently fired up the kubuntu vmware image. And upon startup it wanted to download quite a lot of updated packages. Is it possible in a bandwidth-limited enviroment to limit the updates in any way yet still retain security?
[12:26] <cached> i hard wire all my programs by hand
[12:27] <DieKrake303> hi all
[12:27] <cached> astinus: put all the updates on a cd once and from then on use that as a repo
[12:27] <Agent_bob> Astinus- dapper ?
[12:27] <mpathy> Hi there.. Something to laugh in these stressy release days? I modified a dilbert comic yesterday: http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9422/dilbertunixmm8tp.gif ;)
[12:27] <thoreauputic> Astinus-: read the changelogs I guess, and see what you really need
[12:28] <Astinus-> Agent_bob: generally asking?
[12:28] <ompaul> !register
[12:28] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:28] <Astinus-> cached: see, thing is really that i have friends in some not too well developed countries and bandwidth is a luxury..
[12:28] <Gh0sTeE> Doesnt Ubuntu use a netinst?
[12:28] <Agent_bob> Astinus- if you run the development version  aka bata   then the updates are a houndred fold.
[12:29] <thoreauputic> mpathy: heh - copyright violation! ( I know the original well - nice addition)
[12:29] <Healot> mpathy: even Dilbert ?
[12:29] <cached> astinus-: you can mail it to them if possible, but thats about it. you cant get updates without downloading them somehow otherwise
[12:30] <mpathy> thoreauputic: its only for you hard-working guys to have fun ;)
[12:30] <Astinus-> cached: i suppose patching the binaries is a nono ?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> mpathy: yeah - I was kidding - thanks :)
[12:30] <Gh0sTeE> guess not
[12:31] <cached> astinus: you could also try making an image of a hard drive
[12:31] <ompaul> mpathy, send it back and say they should release that verison of it :)
[12:32] <ompaul> !timetable
[12:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more.
[12:33] <soundray> Will there be a release party here or in -offtopic?
[12:34] <mpathy> ompaul: but ubuntu is "linux for human-beings" and not "..for bearded, suspender-wearing beings" *gg*
[12:34] <ompaul> soundray, in pubs and talk in offtopic this is a support channel (usually)
[12:34] <thoreauputic> soundray: I'd bet on -offtopic
[12:34] <thoreauputic> mpathy: hey, I resemble that remark! *g*
[12:34] <ompaul> mpathy, yeah so say there can be all sorts behind him
[12:34] <soundray> Thanks
[12:35] <soundray> ompaul: once dapper is out, Ubuntu won't need support. So we can use the channel to party, right?
[12:36] <mpathy> thoreauputic, ompaul: I only meant that because the people would think then all ubuntu users look like Alan Cox or RMS ;)
[12:36] <ompaul> soundray, ehhh wrong on so many levels
[12:36] <Agent_bob> lol
[12:36] <thoreauputic> soundray: might confuse the newbies :)
[12:36] <ompaul> mpathy, so have mark pushing the bearded guy out of the way
[12:36] <thoreauputic> mpathy: and we don't ?
[12:36] <Agent_bob> that's when the work will start in here soundray
[12:37] <nutterpc> proof in the pudding of *why* linux is better for the geek........if hardware dies (like my old board did about 30mins ago), you can swap over to your new gear, and ubuntu just boots straight up with no hassles
[12:37] <nutterpc> :)
[12:37] <mpathy> thoreauputic: I cannot allow me to grow a beard like that in my office *ggg*
[12:37] <Tidus> new releases always come with the new people going 'WtF?! why doesnt this work like <blahblahblah>'
[12:37] <bleurgh> whats the quickest way to install ubuntu on a load of machines?
[12:38] <thoreauputic> bleurgh: join a LUG ;)
[12:38] <dcosta> where should i set my dns server address so i can connect to the net?
[12:38] <dcosta> i use the opencd version of ubuntu
[12:38] <K|NgGh0sT> Is there a netinstall for Ubuntu?
[12:38] <Healot> to make sure eerything runs fine on your PC, install Windows XP
[12:38] <mpathy> ompaul: perhaps I should better modify sth. like that: http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/wp-content/ep042.jpg
[12:38] <ompaul> bleurgh, netinstall is one way oem is another - dd drives is another depends
[12:38] <thoreauputic> Healot: *cough*
[12:39] <bleurgh> oem = copying drive contents?
[12:39] <pome> Fella's, how do I upgrade ruby on breezy?
[12:39] <pome> I'm getting 1.8.3, I want 1.8.4
[12:39] <pome> can I upgrade using apt-get somehow?
[12:40] <mpathy> uh a troll in the ubuntu channel one day before release.. thats like a black cat *g*
[12:40] <dcosta> i know nothing about networking
[12:40] <thoreauputic> pome: 6.06 comes out tomorrow
[12:40] <pome> thoreauputic: cool - I can wait a day!
[12:41] <Hannibal> ok. So I stole the ip of the dns server of this uni machine. I want the submask settings and all that
[12:41] <Hannibal> obviously, I don't have admin rights on this machine. It's running Linux. How do I get to those settings? :)|
[12:42] <dcosta> where should i set my dns server address so i can connect to the net?
[12:42] <Tidus> Hannibal: type /sbin/ifconfig on a terminal
[12:42] <Hannibal> (I got the ip of the dns server by simply running an nslookup)
[12:42] <thoreauputic> pome: can you wait a day ?
[12:42] <thoreauputic> !upgrade
[12:42] <ubotu> hmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[12:42] <Astinus-> umm, a default install of 5.10. What download sizes are we talking about when doing a dist-upgrade to 6.06?
[12:42] <Tidus> Hannibal: that'll give you the subnet
[12:42] <soundray> Healot :D
[12:42] <Hannibal> Tidus: I don't have root or sudo or anything, that would never work, would it?
[12:42] <Tidus> Hannibal: /sbin/ifconfig will run as user.  you just cant modify settings
[12:42] <Hannibal> how silly. Thanks, Tidus! :)
[12:43] <Tidus> Hannibal: /sbin/ifconfig for the subnet, and 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' for the nameservers
[12:43] <pome> mpathy: did you call me a troll?
[12:43] <Hannibal> Tidus: hrm, I set gateway to the first thing to come up in traceroute - is there a more scientific way to do that? :)
[12:43] <thoreauputic> pome: I don't think that was directed at you
[12:43] <mpathy> pome: no I meant the "install win xp and everythings fine" sentence ;)
[12:44] <pome> mpathy: ok, just wondering
[12:44] <Tidus> Hannibal: hold on... i'll tell ya how to figure your gateway
[12:44] <thoreauputic> pome: happened before you joined I think
[12:44] <pome> mpathy: to some, ruby is inflammatory!
[12:44] <Ng> Tidus: route :)
[12:44] <Tidus> Hannibal: just type route and look at the bottom line
[12:44] <thoreauputic> pome: language wars in #ubuntu-oftopic ;)
[12:45] <mpathy> ruby woul be my choice of scripting language if there wouldnt be python ;)
[12:45] <Hannibal> Tidus: alright. Last question, I hope, how do I set the broadcast... thing. ?
[12:45] <thoreauputic> hmm -offtopic
[12:45] <Healot> RMS joke?
[12:45] <Tidus> Hannibal, broadcast defaults to 255.255.255.255
[12:45] <thoreauputic> mpathy: no language ars please ;-)
[12:45] <Tidus> usually you wont need to set it
[12:45] <Hannibal> that's the mask, isn't it?
[12:45] <thoreauputic> *wars
[12:45] <Hannibal> I'm at uni
[12:45] <Hannibal> it does funky stuff to all of it.
[12:45] <Tidus> hm.
[12:46] <Tidus> broadcast shouldn't need to be manually set.
[12:46] <Hannibal> so mask is 255.255.255.0 here
[12:46] <mpathy> thoreauputic: I answered in a very diplomatic way I am innocent ;)
[12:46] <Hannibal> and bcast on this machine is 146.something.9.255
[12:46] <thoreauputic> mpathy: heh
[12:46] <Tidus> Hannibal: sounds like standard stuff to me.
[12:46] <Hannibal> and on my laptop it got set to 146.something.255.255
[12:46] <Hannibal> which seems... wrong? :)
[12:46] <Tidus> Hannibal: you can leave the broadcast alone.  it'll find its own route for that
[12:46] <Agent_bob> bottom line of route here is    'default         *               0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 ppp0 '     what does that say ?
[12:47] <Ng> Agent_bob: that means all traffic not for your local machine/network will be routed via the ppp0 interface
[12:47] <Healot> Agent_bob: that says all other traffic (not local) will go through  ppp0 interface
[12:48] <Agent_bob> hmmmm k
[12:49] <Hannibal> ugh. I had a working nslookup a while ago, now it's failing again.
[12:49] <Agent_bob> b52's ?
[12:50] <Tidus> Hannibal: for nameservers, you'll need to poke the /etc/resolv.conf file to tell you the nameservers
[12:50] <h3sp4wn> Hannibal: Can you ping ipaddresses (i.e without using dns)
[12:50] <Hannibal> Tidus: did that. Had used an nslookup before, that worked too.
[12:50] <Hannibal> h3sp4wn: unlikely.
[12:50] <h3sp4wn> Hannibal: That implies ppp0 is not up then
[12:50] <thoreauputic> Hannibal: try "host" instead of "nslookup"
[12:50] <mpathy> a launchpad question: why did some packages appear from the status bars as uncomplete translations, when they, if you click at it, complete filled out?
[12:51] <Uniqq> hi, does anyone know how to change the order of drives within the raid array? As they appear to be randomly used looking at /proc/mdstat
[12:51] <Hannibal> h3sp4wn: what's ppp0? I'm not using a modem...
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> Hennibal: ppp over ethernet ?
[12:51] <Hannibal> what's ppp? :)
[12:52] <Hannibal> it would be a hell of a lot easier if dhcp 'just worked' though :)
[12:52] <h3sp4wn> just run sudo dhclient eth0
[12:52] <Hannibal> you missed the convo I had before.
[12:52] <Hannibal> dhclient fails to do anything.
[12:53] <Hannibal> and yes, I *am* certain my uni is running a dhcp server, and that everything's plugged in.
[12:53] <h3sp4wn> How do you know they are not using mac address filtering to stop people from doing that ? Have they said it specifically is allowed
[12:53] <Hannibal> or well, anything - 'anything useful', should you prefer.
[12:54] <Hannibal> they have a secure wireless which uses the same dhcp server.
[12:54] <Hannibal> mac address blocking wouldn't work.
[12:54] <Hannibal> (not for the wireless being open except that you need student credentials to get past the WPA security)
[12:54] <h3sp4wn> How do you know the switches don't have port security on them ?
[12:55] <Hannibal> I'd use the wireless if it wasn't flakier than the ethernet, and dhclient worked on that - which it doesn't either.
[12:55] <Hannibal> because I could connect to the dns server fine before?
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> So it was working and it has stopped ?
[12:55] <chowells2> Try a different dhcp client?
[12:55] <Hannibal> yeah, after I tried configuring more so I could actually get off the lan
[12:56] <Hannibal> chowells2: dhclient3 doesn't work either, if that's what you mean.
[12:56] <Tidus> Hannibal: try using dhcpcd
[12:56] <Uniqq> hi, does anyone know how to change the order of drives within the raid array? As they appear to be randomly used looking at /proc/mdstat
[12:56] <chowells2> Hannibal: I was thinking dhcpcd or pump
[12:56] <chowells2> though pump is possibly years and years old
[12:56] <Tidus> chowells2: but pump is *still* used by knoppix
[12:56] <Pistahh> hi
[12:56] <Hannibal> dhcpcd can't be found, from a sudo -s shell.
[12:56] <chowells2> Tidus: ah. wondered it it was still compilable and stuff even
[12:57] <Pistahh> anybody here running ubuntu in 8bit color depth?
[12:57] <Hannibal> so I'm betting that's a no\
[12:57] <Agent_bob> wget is old  but works well
[12:57] <Hannibal> 'pump' is not found either
[12:57] <Agent_bob> do one thing and do it right
[12:57] <Tidus> Hannibal: use sudo -i
[12:57] <chowells2> Hannibal: apt-get install dhcpcd
[12:57] <Hannibal> chowells2: without a network connection?
[12:57] <chowells2> go somewhere with one :)
[12:57] <Hannibal> catch-22, sorry mate.
[12:57] <chowells2> or burn it on a CD
[12:57] <igorzolnikov> i resolved my problem without you... but i have max resolution of screen max 1024 now ... with nvidia driver
[12:58] <Tidus> Hannibal: use sudo -i instead of sudo -s
[12:58] <Hannibal> I have so far managed to get it working once, that was 2 weeks ago. And somewhere else, where I can't go back to right now (conference thing).
[12:58] <Tidus> 'sudo -i' initializes a full root environment, along with its environment variables ... the functional equivalent of 'su -'
[12:58] <Hannibal> I don't have a cd burner at hand.
[12:58] <Agent_bob> Hannibal what's this box you are chatting on ?  it has inet.   can't the lappy connect to that ?
[12:58] <Hannibal> it's a uni box.
[12:58] <Hannibal> it doesn't have a second ethernet port
[12:58] <Hannibal> and if it did
[12:58] <Agent_bob> oh
[12:59] <Hannibal> I still wouldn't be able to configure it to allow my lappy to do anything.
[12:59] <Hannibal> not having admin/sudo on here.
[12:59] <Hannibal> Tidus: done - no luck though.
[01:00] <Hannibal> I really wonder what broke the DNS though.
[01:00] <Tidus> Hannibal: possibly the fact that you haven't setup /etc/resolv.conf yet?
[01:00] <Tidus> then logged out and back in?
[01:00] <kdean06> Is the Dapper gnome-desktop-environment package compatible with Debian?
[01:00] <h3sp4wn> Hannibal: Find out the mac address of the computer you are on change the mac address of your card to that unplug it then test if it works then
[01:00] <Hannibal> Tidus: I'm being a wuss and using the network admin gnome utility
[01:01] <martii> 
[01:01] <Tidus> Hannibal: quit bein a wuss and start poking the command line :)
[01:01] <Hannibal> I'm already doing that.
[01:01] <Tidus> a little knowledge on the command line will get you further
[01:01] <ompaul> martii, ?
[01:01] <Hannibal> I do have that little knowledge, but I'm just saying that while I'm not sure that the gnome thing is touching /etc/resolv.conf, it probably is.
[01:01] <|newbie|> hi, guys
[01:01] <ompaul> |newbie|, there is also #kubuntu :-)
[01:01] <Hannibal> wooo
[01:02] <Hannibal> got dns back
[01:02] <Tidus> Hannibal: it probably isnt.
[01:02] <Tidus> lol
[01:02] <|newbie|> anyone here from malaysia?
[01:02] <Hannibal> by changing the netmask from 255.255.255.0 to 255.0.0.0
[01:02] <YogSothoth> ompaul: actually my fstab looks like this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GaO0U413.html
[01:02] <Agent_bob> kdean06 prolly not.   they are not compiled the same, debian and ubuntu; from what i hear.  it might work.  but i wouldn't recommend it.
[01:02] <Healot> |newbie|: me
[01:02] <Hannibal> so now I want a working net connection too...
[01:02] <Hannibal> eep!
[01:02] <Hannibal> it's working :
[01:02] <Hannibal> it seems.
[01:02] <kdean06> Agent_bob, That's what I was afraid of. I figured, but...
[01:02] <Tidus> does it let you online?
[01:02] <Hannibal> that is, pinging google works
[01:03] <Hannibal> which is a good sign.
[01:03] <Tidus> if so, then *don't touch it*
[01:03] <jenda> can someone recommend a WYSIWIG html editor?
[01:03] <Healot> nvu!
[01:03] <Hannibal> browser works too. Yay!
[01:03] <Hannibal> jenda: what Healot said.
[01:03] <Tidus> Hannibal: good... now *don't touch the settings*
[01:03] <jenda> really?
[01:03] <jenda> ok
[01:03] <Hannibal> Tidus / ompaul / everyone: thanks! :)
[01:03] <Hannibal> Tidus: roger that :P
[01:03] <Agent_bob> tidus  ted maybe ?
[01:03] <Healot> it's on the repos "universe" section, jenda
[01:03] <jenda> thx
[01:03] <YogSothoth> ompaul: is that good if I replace it with that: http://rafb.net/paste/results/mIqq1I46.html
[01:04] <Tidus> Agent_bob: huh?
[01:04] <Jaak_> is there a known problem with ati and win+WorldofWarcraft?
[01:04] <toomai> hi all
[01:04] <jenda> Healot: I'd use a text editor, but a younger convert asks :)
[01:04] <ompaul> YogSothoth, yuk use paste.ubuntu-nl.com and put into it the following information >> cat /etc/fstab ; mount ; sudo fdisk -l   << that is what I want and stop using rafb.net I can't edit that page and hand it back to you paste.ubuntu-nl.org works better
[01:04] <Agent_bob> Tidus sorry.
[01:04] <ompaul> YogSothoth, that is .org not like .com as I wrote at the beginning
[01:05] <Healot> jenda: for now, I guess "nvu" works fine, and "amaya" is full-pack (maybe not for young ones)
[01:05] <ompaul> !wow
[01:05] <ubotu> To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[01:05] <jenda> OK
[01:05] <brad`> where do install failour logs go"
[01:05] <brad`> ?
[01:05] <Agent_bob> jenda ted maybe ?   can it do html ?
[01:05] <Healot> failure log, brad`?
[01:05] <brad`> yeh that thing :)
[01:05] <Healot> if system/kernel failure, "dmesg"
[01:06] <ompaul> brad`, most logging goes to /var/logs to read most of the files a "tail logfile" is useful
[01:06] <Tidus> Agent_bob: i personally like bluefish
[01:06] <Healot> if application specific, refer the application manual
[01:06] <Tidus> dunno if it's wysiwyg tho
[01:06] <brad`> yeh i found dpkg log but it wasn't very detailed
[01:06] <Agent_bob> Tidus tell jenda
[01:06] <jenda> Tidus: gotcha
[01:06] <Agent_bob> Tidus and sorry for the mis-address while ago
[01:07] <Tidus> Agent_bob: no harm no foul :)
[01:07] <Tidus> only thing it did was print a red line in xchat
[01:07] <jenda> Agent_bob, Tidus, Healot, Hannibal thanks :)
[01:07] <Agent_bob> it's "no bloud, no foul"
[01:07] <Healot> Tidus: blufish dont do wysiwyg, but i can consider it is powerful
[01:07] <Agent_bob> oo
[01:07] <Jaak_> I know how to get wine running, i have it running perfectly on my other ubuntu system, that has Nvidia, but my laptop has Ati and so i was wondering if it's a known problem with ati chips
[01:09] <Tidus> Hannibal: why the 3hr limit?
[01:09] <YogSothoth> ompaul: pastebin, nopaste, and now ubuntu-paste... how can I remember what to use for each channel ?! :-)
[01:09] <Hannibal> Tidus: because then I have dinner with some friends, and class again
[01:09] <Tidus> o lol
[01:10] <Tidus> YogSothoth: you can use any pastebin with any channel
[01:10] <Hannibal> I had an exam this morning
[01:10] <Hannibal> figured I'd use this time in a useful way
[01:10] <Hannibal> but we're getting offtopic, so I'll hush now :)
[01:10] <Agent_bob> jaak not known to me... <shrugs/>
[01:11] <zerkowskig> h
[01:11] <ompaul> YogSothoth, paste.ubuntu-nl.org works well most people just don't want rubbish in their channel - the one I am suggesting is rather friendly and all i want is a url if you do it in that one I can send you back a url by working directly on your paste
[01:11] <CatalinuX> hi everybuddy
[01:12] <Agent_bob> and don't forget rafb's pastebin
[01:12] <ompaul> Agent_bob, that did not allow me edit it :-)
[01:12] <Tidus> ompaul: and pastebin.com doesn't allow direct editing?
[01:12] <ompaul> Tidus, don't know or care I only pointed to one here that works
[01:13] <CatalinuX> I installed Breezy some time ago and upgraded to Dapper using Synaptic. Yesterday I installed WindowsXP and my GRUB is gone, so I cannot boot Ubuntu anymore ? How can I restore my GRUB installation ?
[01:13] <ompaul> Tidus, this came from a request where I had something I could not edit
[01:13] <Agent_bob> i have pasted about 5 times in my life, so i have no preferance.
[01:13] <ompaul> !grub
[01:13] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:13] <YogSothoth> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14901
[01:13] <ompaul> YogSothoth, thanks, back in a couple of minutes
[01:13] <CatalinuX> thanks ompaul
[01:14] <YogSothoth> ompaul: thank *you*!
[01:14] <ompaul> YogSothoth, tell me, you only have 2 CDs and 1 floppy?
[01:14] <Agent_bob> !dualboot
[01:14] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:15] <eggzeck> Jaak_, what kind of ATI?
[01:16] <Agent_bob> looks to me like one cd and one floppy
[01:16] <thoreauputic> YogSothoth: woah, that's a wild /etc/fstab...
[01:16] <Agent_bob> aint it
[01:17] <thoreauputic> what happened?
[01:17] <thoreauputic> weird indeed...
[01:17] <Agent_bob> oh i missed the hdd first clance
[01:17] <Agent_bob> glance
[01:18] <YogSothoth> thoreauputic: really? I never touched it, it was created by Ubuntu Dapper Flight 2
[01:19] <YogSothoth> ompaul: yes, one dvd-rom, one cd-r and one floppy
[01:19] <thoreauputic> YogSothoth: you have repeated entries for /dev/hdc and your floppy like I wouldn't believe...
[01:19] <Agent_bob> hda1 is swap ?
[01:20] <Agent_bob> hehhe that looks like something i would do
[01:20] <TIIPOS> wow
[01:20] <TIIPOS> I cannot believe Kdevelop
[01:20] <TIIPOS> its amazing
[01:20] <Jae686> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <- let me see if it will work...
[01:21] <petrik> How can I find the details of my printer so I can share it through CUPS?
[01:21] <Jaak_> eggzeck, i have a ati RADEON X600
[01:21] <linchriss> Does anyone know why I cant shutdown the system from the system->quit menu?
[01:21] <ompaul> YogSothoth, sorry I had to take a call will do that now
[01:22] <tarzeau> where can i download 606?
[01:22] <thoreauputic> tarzeau: cdimage.ubuntu.com - but final isn't out yet
[01:22] <thoreauputic> tarzeau: 1st of June
[01:23] <petrik> 1st of june... another 37 minutes away
[01:23] <thoreauputic> petrik: UTC I would guess - you have to wait :)
[01:23] <scheuri> petrik: ubuntu is due to release on the first??
[01:23] <xice> ;P
[01:23] <thoreauputic> scheuri: correct
[01:24] <scheuri> personally I think that is a bad idea...
[01:24] <tarzeau> thoreauputic: but i want the final
[01:24] <xice> but, what time zone june 1?
[01:24] <thoreauputic> tarzeau: you'll have to wait then :)
[01:24] <scheuri> tarzeau: then patience is your friend...:)
[01:24] <thoreauputic> tarzeau: Real Soon Now (tm)
[01:24] <thoreauputic> tarzeau: a la Debian ;-)
[01:26] <ompaul> YogSothoth, here is the way that file should look>>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14904 << >> sudo nano /etc/fstab << put that data inthere, then run this command >> sudo mount -a
[01:26] <thoreauputic> scheuri: why is it a bad idea? Just curious...
[01:26] <ompaul> YogSothoth, it will work every time after that
[01:27] <Hannibal> So... where is etherreal hiding as a package?
[01:27] <scheuri> thoreauputic: first they put pressure on themselves..."june" would have been okay meaing 20th would be fine too
[01:27] <thoreauputic> !info ethereal
[01:27] <ubotu> ethereal: (network traffic analyzer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.10.12-2ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 485 kB, Installed size: 1312 kB
[01:27] <Hannibal> do I need to add some custom repositories to get what I want? :)
[01:27] <thoreauputic> scheuri: it was already delayed 6 weeks - no pressure there
[01:27] <Hannibal> humdiedum. That's nice of it, but apt-cache search ether doesn't find it. What am I missing?
[01:28] <scheuri> thoreauputic: second and most important...to my "feelings" and all the threads in ubuntuforum.com i am not confident that it is really polished anough for LST
[01:28] <thoreauputic> Hanna_: universe
[01:28] <thoreauputic> bah
[01:28] <Hannibal> damn tab-complete ;)
[01:28] <thoreauputic> Hannibal: ^^^
[01:28] <thoreauputic> indeed
[01:28] <scheuri> thoreauputic: but I don't know if that 2 month were enough to make it LST...but...that is just me
[01:28] <n00busers>  i need help about ubuntu -- how to config motorola wirelss lan card ... help please 
[01:28] <Hannibal> hrm. So I don't know what that is, but I bet ubotu can tell me - I'll figure it out, thanks! :)
[01:28] <n00busers> i need help about ubuntu -- how to config motorola wirelss lan card ... help please
[01:28] <Agent_bob> ethereal - network traffic analyzer
[01:28] <linchriss> Has anybody had problems with some programs looking strange.. as if the fonts was like draged out?
[01:29] <Agent_bob> ethereal-common - network traffic analyser (common files)
[01:29] <scheuri> LTS Long Term support...not LST...
[01:29] <thoreauputic> scheuri: seems pretty stable - but I hear you
[01:29] <Agent_bob> Hannibal my apt-cache search has no problem
[01:29] <thoreauputic> !tell Hannibal about repos
[01:29] <scheuri> thoreauputic: oh, absolutely...I do not make dozens of bad experiences (using it myself on one box), but still....
[01:29] <Hannibal> look, I said I could figure it out - I just did :P
[01:29] <Hannibal> I'll scream when I'm failing.
[01:29] <Hannibal> thanks :)
[01:29] <thoreauputic> Hannibal: congratulations
[01:29] <thoreauputic> ;)
[01:30] <scheuri> Hannibal: that sounded nasty for a second...;)
[01:30] <n00busers> Hannibal i need help about ubuntu -- how to config motorola wirelss lan card ... help please
[01:30] <Hannibal> scheuri: that'd depend on interpretation, so surely that wouldn't be my fault? ;)
[01:30] <d42> When attempting to install packages I get "The following packages cannot be authenticated!"; Usual cause is not having the key installed for the package. How do I find out what key is used for signing a package?
[01:30] <scheuri> Hannibal: okay...touche...;)
[01:30] <thoreauputic> Hannibal: my ESP dropped out for a few seconds - sorry
[01:30] <Hannibal> n00busers: have you googled? I don't have any answers for you. :)
[01:30] <Hannibal> Sorry.
[01:30] <Hannibal> thoreauputic: that's quite alright :P
[01:31] <thoreauputic> Hannibal: hah
[01:31] <soundray> n00busers: do you know the chipset that your wlan card uses?
[01:31] <scheuri> n00busers: try wiki.ubuntu.org and then use motorla as search string at upper right corner
[01:31] <n00busers> soundray and Hannibal okay thanks.. ill get back to you guys asap
[01:31] <n00busers> thanks scheuri
[01:32] <scheuri> no problems
[01:32] <mercedez> dear al
[01:32] <mercedez> dear all
[01:32] <thoreauputic> !seen al
[01:32] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'al', thoreauputic
[01:32] <thoreauputic> hmm
[01:32] <thoreauputic> ;P
[01:32] <Agent_bob> i liked that better the first time
[01:32] <scheuri> mercedez: hi there...
[01:32] <mercedez> i have problem access with my program
[01:32] <mercedez> i'm only access a program only from root
[01:33] <scheuri> mercedez...what program?
[01:33] <mercedez> can i change it
[01:33] <mercedez> vmware
[01:33] <mattikoo> Hello. I have large problems. I tried to look videos by realplayer in firefox and I didn't hear any sound. Then I tried with xine or totem or something to watch windows media in firefox. It showed all wrong. And now when I have done it I try to come irssi and ubuntu allways boot my X.
[01:33] <thoreauputic> mercedez: answer scheuri 's question first
[01:33] <thoreauputic> ah
[01:33] <mercedez> ok
[01:34] <scheuri> mercedez: first of all...it works when you start it as root? or do you get error messages?
[01:34] <mercedez> it work only from root
[01:34] <mercedez> so i must go to root first and start the vmware
[01:35] <scheuri> mercedez: okay...vmware workstation? vmware server? vmware player?
[01:35] <mercedez> workstation
[01:35] <scheuri> mercedez: uh, okay...I actually only know server a bit...but...what error message do you get when you start vmware workstation with a normal user?
[01:35] <mattikoo> how I can remove all players and codecs and install it again easy? I think it's something really wrong with my ubuntu.
[01:36] <rigonatti> hi All!
[01:36] <rigonatti> where can I submit my incompability Issues
[01:36] <thoreauputic> matti: try telling the channel what errors you are seeing
[01:36] <thoreauputic> rigonatti: incompatibility with what ?
[01:37] <Hannibal> thoreauputic: didn't think you used any meat. Wikipedia says so anyway.
[01:37] <mercedez> well must go to superuser
[01:37] <Hannibal> ;)
[01:37] <mattikoo> thoreauputic: My gdm-login shows my home-folder and I can't login now
[01:37] <scheuri> mercedez: actually I am asking for the exat error message if you try to start vmware with normal user...
[01:37] <thoreauputic> Hannibal: "Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds" <-- Emerson ;P
[01:38] <rigonatti> Thoreauputic:  My sound card dont work
[01:38] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[01:38] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:38] <mercedez> i dont remember
[01:38] <rigonatti> yep =.
[01:38] <scheuri> mercedez: are you able to try it now ?
[01:38] <Hannibal> thoreauputic: "one cannot say of something that it is and that it is not in the same respect and at the same time" <- Aristotle
[01:39] <Agent_bob> mattikoo  you did a sudo nautilus   didn't you?       remove the .*auth* files from yout home and try again
[01:39] <scheuri> Hannibal: Aristotle in a IRC Channel...that is a strong statement
[01:39] <thoreauputic> Hannibal: Aristotle got many things wrong ;-P
[01:39] <Hannibal> So did Emerson.
[01:39] <Hannibal> Don't we all?
[01:39] <scheuri> :)
[01:39] <thoreauputic> Hannibal: ----> #ubuntu-offtopic I think ;)
[01:39] <mattikoo> Agent_bob: I'm not in nautilus. I was in gnome-terminal.
[01:39] <Hannibal> good catch. Except that I'm not in there, sorry :)
[01:40] <d42> How do I obtain the signing key used for a package, prior to running "apt-get install <package>", so that the key can be registered before doing the install?
[01:40] <mercedez> well i used my friend pc, i dont bring my laptop
[01:40] <Seveas> d42, which repository?
[01:40] <Flannel> Hannibal: no, his comment was "this should be moved to -offtopic"
[01:40] <motin> Do you have problems with OOo after the latest updates? When creating a new spreadsheet as a tab, it won't come up to print/print preview or export to pdf... Is there a setting where I can choose to include a spreadsheet in printing or not?
[01:40] <scheuri> mattikoo: not a solution per se...but...have you tried vlc?
[01:40] <mercedez> i install ubuntu in my laptop
[01:40] <rigonatti> thoreauputic: ?
[01:40] <CatalinuX> Hi all. I tried installing GRUB using the rescue mode from my install CD. It ends up with an error saying that menu.lst or something like that is not found. How can I fix this ?
[01:40] <scheuri> mercedez: then I am afraid I cant help...it sounds a bit strange that only root can run it...sorry
[01:40] <d42> Seveas, I don't know. Is there a generic way of finding out the key?
[01:40] <Hannibal> Flannel: I'm well aware of that. I'm merely commenting that that's not practical and hence we'll cease our pointless (though rather amusing) discussion.
[01:41] <new_to_ubuntu> !<disable agp>
[01:41] <ubotu> new_to_ubuntu: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:41] <motin> CatalinuX: do it through live cd mode instead
[01:41] <soundray> Friends, do you have a suggestion for me? I'm running a program that displays sections from a 3D volume. When I run it locally, it works fine. When I try via VNC, the window and control panels are all visible, but the actual display area stays black. Is there a fix/workaround?
[01:41] <mercedez> use chown?
[01:41] <CatalinuX> I don`t have a LiveCD. Only a install CD
[01:41] <d42> Seveas, I know the package name.
[01:41] <mattikoo> scheuri: thank you :) I have to now bring my wife to home. See you
[01:41] <motin> CatalinuX: in live cd mode, enable the root account, then run grub from a root prompt
[01:41] <scheuri> mercedez: possible...but maybe you are lucky in a vmware-forum rather than here
[01:41] <motin> CatalinuX: are you trying out Dapper?
[01:41] <scheuri> mattikoo: lucky you...:)
[01:41] <Hannibal> soundray: I'm definitely not an expert at that stuff, but what does the program use to display stuff?
[01:42] <mercedez> okey
[01:42] <CatalinuX> I used Breezy and upgraded to Dapper with Synaptic
[01:42] <Hannibal> soundray: OpenGL, plain X, ...?
[01:42] <d42> Seveas, Is it important to find out the repository name?
[01:42] <mercedez> thanks
[01:42] <Agent_bob> mattikoo you can use [alt] +[ctrl] +[f1]   and login the console,  and there use sudo rm .*auth*    and [alt] +[F7]   will take you back to the gdm screen
[01:42] <soundray> Hannibal: OpenGL
[01:42] <CatalinuX> and then installed Windows XP
[01:42] <Seveas> d42, usually it's "trying to install" followed by "missing key 1234567890ABCDEF" followed by "gpg --recv-keys 90ABCDEF && gpg --export --armor 90ABCDEF | sudo apt-key add -"
[01:42] <motin> CatalinuX: for Dapper, the place to discuss, at least until tomorrow, is #ubuntu+1
[01:42] <Hannibal> soundray: can it use anything else?
[01:42] <soundray> Hannibal: not afaik...
[01:42] <CatalinuX> yes but it`s only grub that doesn`t work
[01:42] <Hannibal> CatalinuX: you can upgrade to Dapper using just a package manager?
[01:42] <scheuri> soundray: I am neither an expert, but...maybe vnc is not able to transmit 3D stuff? only 2D because of bitmapping?
[01:42] <HymnToLife> Hannibal> yes
[01:43] <d42> Seveas, yes, I saw many suggestions to that effect while searching Google for the past few hours on this subject.
[01:43] <Hannibal> unless you're switching to unstable.
[01:43] <Hannibal> or testing. Or whatever Ubuntu calls that.
[01:43] <motin> CatalinuX: So the live cd is no longer the install cd?
[01:43] <d42> Seveas, unfortunately I don't have the key.
[01:43] <Seveas> d42, gpg --recb-key downloads it
[01:43] <CatalinuX> motin: I used the Breezy CD to install Ubuntu so I don`t thing it`s a Dapper issue.
[01:43] <HymnToLife> Hannibal> man apt-get, look 'dist-upgrade'
[01:43] <rigonatti> where can I submit my incompability Issues
[01:43] <soundray> scheuri: yes, that's my guess too -- but is there perhaps a way to force VNC to show what's on the host? Even if it doesn't update as rapidly as the native host display?
[01:44] <d42> Seveas, yes, once I know the key, but I don't know the key.
[01:44] <Agent_bob> Hannibal yes dapper is still beta  until tomarrow.
[01:44] <Hannibal> HymnToLife: thanks. How long would it take, on a new default install, without too much other stuff?
[01:44] <scheuri> soundray: I am using freenx all the time, so I am not much of a help, sorry
[01:44] <motin> CatalinuX: ok, the breezy install cd is also a live cd. use the live cd mode, it'll work
[01:44] <Seveas> d42, apt-get will tell you 
[01:44] <Hannibal> (I know you can't predict anything exact, just curious for a rough estimate)
[01:44] <soundray> scheuri: do you know of any freenx/OpenGL issues?
[01:44] <d42> Seveas, Good, How does apt-get tell me?
[01:44] <Agent_bob> Hannibal dl speed ?
[01:45] <soundray> scheuri: 'coz I'll try freenx if there's any hope...
[01:45] <CatalinuX> motin: Breezy install is also a LiveCD ? It actually presents me with a 'boot:' prompt after booting from CD
[01:45] <scheuri> soundray: well, not really as I am only using it as 2D...but it might be worth a try
[01:45] <HymnToLife> Hannibal> almost all your packages will be upgraded, so it's basically like doing a netinstall
[01:45] <Hannibal> Agent_bob: university. So, um, T5 or whatever. A lot.
[01:45] <scheuri> soundray: freenx is better anyway (as in speed and security)
[01:45] <d42> Seveas, apt-get didn't tell me, when I attempted to install the package.
[01:45] <HymnToLife> ~600 MB depending the packages you installed
[01:45] <Seveas> it will tell you when you do apt-get update
[01:45] <Seveas> W: GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl dapper-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[01:45] <soundray> scheuri: thanks
[01:45] <Seveas> something like that
[01:45] <scheuri> soundray: welcome
[01:45] <motin> CatalinuX: I remember that I could both install and use live cd mode from the cd that I installed breezy and also the dapper alpha cd
[01:46] <rigonatti> pls all, where can I submit my incompability Issues?
[01:46] <Hannibal> HymnToLife: hrm, fun. Might try that if I get my build working any time soon. Thanks!
[01:46] <CatalinuX> motin: The Live CD is also an install CD, but not viceversa
[01:46] <motin> rigonatti: launchpad for bugs
[01:46] <scheuri> rigonatti: tell the developers...:)...in the official forum for example
[01:46] <motin> CatalinuX: I see. I must have downloaded the live cd then.
[01:47] <rigonatti> tXs !!!!
[01:47] <d42> Seveas, I don't quite follow. I wish to install a new package. So how is apt-get update going to help?
[01:47] <motin> CatalinuX: then I cannot help you. I also had to reinstall grub after installing Windows on another partition, and I used the LiveCD mode after failing in rescue mode numerous times
[01:47] <CatalinuX> Ok. So does anyone know how can I fix the menu.lst thing ?
[01:47] <Seveas> d42, well, that package is in a repository...
[01:48] <Seveas> if you simply have a .deb you cannot get missing key errors
[01:48] <d42> Seveas, yes, it is in a repository.
[01:48] <Agent_bob> CatalinuX well actually the install cd is a live cd of sorts,  just very specialized
[01:49] <Bladesonfire> Can someone help me get sudo privileges back on my system? Opening a shell through an install CD doesn't mount my root partition (even though it says it's at /target, but there is no "target" folder)
[01:49] <motin> CatalinuX: I remember having to manually mount /boot in rescue mode
[01:49] <Seveas> d42, so do apt-get update, look at the gpg error, and add the key....
[01:49] <CatalinuX> motin: Thanks, I`ll try that.
[01:49] <Agent_bob> CatalinuX what menu.lst?     on an install ?    use the the install cd/live cd
[01:50] <soundray> Bladesonfire: what happened to your root privileges?
[01:50] <CatalinuX> Agent_bob: When I try 'grub-instal /dev/hda6' it tells me that menu.lst is missing
[01:50] <soundray> Bladesonfire: sorry, sudo privileges?
[01:51] <Bladesonfire> I believe I lost it when I touched the file /etc/groups
[01:51] <Agent_bob> from where CatalinuX ?     is that the running system  or a cd or where are you issuing the command ?
[01:51] <soundray> CatalinuX: use the --root-directory= option
[01:51] <Bladesonfire> err... /etc/group
[01:51] <d42> Seveas, Oh! I see! I've done "apt-get update" and now the packing is installing without authentication errors.
[01:51] <CatalinuX> Agent_bob: The install CD, rescue mode
[01:51] <d42> Seveas, Thanks for you help.
[01:51] <Hannibal> suppose I sudo and change the date.
[01:51] <Hannibal> to some time in the past
[01:52] <Bladesonfire> After that, I could no longer use sudo, with the error message being, "Sorry, user bladesonfire may not run sudo"
[01:52] <soundray> Bladesonfire: how did you touch it? With nano? Do you know what you changed?
[01:52] <Hannibal> then the next time I run sudo, it will fail saying the timestamp is in the future
[01:52] <Hannibal> how would I recover from such a problem?
[01:52] <scheuri> Bladesonfire: you (your user) seem to be no longer member of group "admin"
[01:52] <Bladesonfire> soundray: I know what I touched... I just can't reaccess the partition
[01:52] <Hannibal> (apart from waiting it out)
[01:52] <Agent_bob> CatalinuX yeah.  mount the root partition and do it chroot grub-install /dev/hda6
[01:52] <Seveas> Hannibal, reboot
[01:52] <njan> Hannibal, reboot in recovery mode, reset the time.
[01:53] <Hannibal> ah. Figures.
[01:53] <Bladesonfire> scheuri: i believe that... but how would I get it back without root/sudo access?
[01:53] <Seveas> (on dapper reboot is enough since /var/run is a tmpfs)
[01:53] <soundray> Bladesonfire: I suggest you boot in recovery mode and fix your /etc/group from there.
[01:53] <Seveas> no need to reset time
[01:53] <soundray> Bladesonfire: select the second option from the grub menu (if you usually boot the first one).
[01:53] <CatalinuX> Agent_bob: Already tried that. Didn`t work
[01:53] <Hannibal> is there an alternative to rebooting?
[01:54] <scheuri> Hannibal: to do what?
[01:54] <soundray> Hannibal: wait until the system time has caught up with the timestamp time
[01:54] <CatalinuX> Agent_bob: How do I mount the /boot martition ?
[01:54] <Seveas> having a root password and rm -rf /var/run/sudo/hannibal
[01:54] <Hannibal> I didn't have a root password, and didn't want to wait 3 hours. :)
[01:54] <Hannibal> (it was a fresh install)
[01:54] <Bladesonfire> soundray: Sorry, this install is on a PowerPC and the boot menu (yaboot) is different from 386... how do I get to recovery mode from that menu?
[01:54] <scheuri> Hannibal: ntp may readjust the time...:)
[01:55] <Hannibal> given lack of network connections when it tries to do that at boot
[01:55] <soundray> Bladesonfire: oops -- I don't know. Perhaps the wiki does... but let's go the way you set off on. You've booted a live CD, correct?
[01:55] <Agent_bob> CatalinuX something like this. sudo mount /dev/hda6 /media && chroot /media sudo mount /boot && sudo chroot /media grub-install /dev/hda6     ?
[01:55] <paolob-parroquia> Hi guys! has dapper been released or not?
[01:56] <Bladesonfire> soundray: The specific disk info is ubuntu-ppc-server-rc
[01:56] <soundray> paolob-parroquia: Patience! 1 June
[01:56] <CatalinuX> Agent_bob: Thanks.
[01:56] <alphaBin> isn't it released this week?
[01:56] <paolob-parroquia> soundray, ah, ok
[01:56] <Hannibal> ok, so I guess that it's a PBKAC. Don't do stupid stuff like that without a root pw if you're running other important stuff
[01:56] <soundray> Bladesonfire: do you get any output from 'ls /target'?
[01:56] <Bladesonfire> soundray: When I booted it, I entered "expert", then "execute a shell" at the install menu
[01:56] <Bladesonfire> soundray: no such directory
[01:57] <orbin> how big would the update be from dapper RC to dapper final?
[01:57] <scheuri> orbin: no one knows for sure...
[01:57] <soundray> orbin: expect that every package will be replaced.
[01:57] <Agent_bob> CatalinuX not real sure it will read the fstab  may have to supply the device for boot as well    && chroot /media sudo mount /dev/hda? /boot &&     <<< where ? is the correct number
[01:57] <soundray> Bladesonfire: do you know the device name of your root partition?
[01:57] <orbin> ok, thanks
[01:58] <Agent_bob> CatalinuX if you need to look at the partition table  do    sudo fdisk -l
[01:59] <Bladesonfire> soundray: Unfortunately, I don't, but my only choices are /dev/hda, and /dev/hdc1-4
[01:59] <c> hola
[01:59] <[arcane] > i thought debian used xorg??
[01:59] <Agent_bob> some people get all the help they want before you get done helping them.
[01:59] <scheuri> [arcane] : they do...in testing and unstable
[02:00] <[arcane] > scheuri: how would i enable getting them
[02:00] <scheuri> [arcane] : but not in stable aka sarge
[02:00] <scheuri> [arcane] : debian or (k)ubuntu?
[02:00] <Agent_bob> oh well.  i'm gone.
[02:00] <[arcane] > scheuri: debain
[02:00] <Lemino> how do I set the quality for ogg in sound-juicer?
[02:00] <soundray> Bladesonfire: give me a couple of minutes
[02:00] <jgfig> HELP!! "GRUB loading, please wait... Error 18" ???
[02:00] <orbin> Lemino: isn't ogg variable?
[02:01] <scheuri> [arcane] : well, if you use testing or unstable they ship with that
[02:01] <mattikoo> Agent_bob: I'm back. Now I hope we solve why my gdm will restart again and again
[02:01] <[arcane] > scheuri: i used teh mini disk
[02:01] <orbin> jgfig: ubuntuforums.org  there's heaps of threads on grub errors
[02:01] <Bladesonfire> soundray: thanks for the help
[02:01] <[arcane] > scheuri: i dont mind xfree
[02:01] <scheuri> [arcane] : doe a "uname -r" in the console for me
[02:01] <[arcane] > just that i dunno what to use for my mouse atm
[02:01] <[arcane] > Linux arcane 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:02] <scheuri> [arcane] : well, that sounds like sarge/stable....can't help you there, I am sorry
[02:02] <kbrooks> ONE DAY TO DAPPER
[02:02] <[arcane] > scheuri: lol damn ill get the sid one
[02:02] <alphaBin> yay!
[02:02] <kbrooks> THREE CHEERS FOR UBUNTU:
[02:02] <Lemino> orbin: yes it is, but you can still set the quality. it ranges from -1 to 10 where 10 is the highest, about 400 kbit/s.
[02:02] <kbrooks> HIP, HIP, HOORAY
[02:02] <kbrooks> HIP, HIP, HOORAY
[02:02] <[arcane] > sid is the latest correct ??
[02:02] <kbrooks> HIP, HIP, HOORAY
[02:02] <scheuri> [arcane] : well that wont solve the mouse problem though...;)
[02:02] <petrik> 2 minutes into June 1st already where I am
[02:02] <Ghostwolf> Hi
[02:02] <kbrooks> [arcane] : no
[02:02] <soundray> Bladesonfire: have you ever hit Tab at the yaboot prompt and looked at the options there?
[02:02] <scheuri> [arcane] : attention...sid is unstable (but is always latest)
[02:02] <kermitX_> it's already 2am in the pacific.
[02:02] <petrik> Time to go to bed
[02:02] <[arcane] > scheuri: well ill use knoppix and copy the configs
[02:02] <kbrooks> [arcane] : sid is debian
[02:02] <PlumTree> hi ;-)
[02:03] <Ghostwolf> How do I make kubuntu run from usb thumb drive?
[02:03] <[arcane] > kbrooks: uhh duh
[02:03] <PlumTree> 'sudo apt-get install azureus
[02:03] <PlumTree> ' is this command enought to install azureus?
[02:03] <scheuri> [arcane] : do understand how DEBIAN named theyre relases check wikipedia...that is important!!
[02:03] <orbin> petrik, kermitX_ : iasked june 1st according to which timezone and ppl laughed at me :P
[02:03] <Ghostwolf> petrik: buy me a copy of hl2e1 then
[02:03] <Lemino> orbin: do you know how to change it in sound-juicer?
[02:03] <[arcane] > scheuri: thanks yeha he names em after characters from toy story
[02:03] <orbin> Lemino: no.  but i know grip lets you set a max bitrate
[02:03] <xice> anyone know any good pagescrapers available for ubuntu
[02:04] <scheuri> [arcane] : I didt mean that actually...I was poiting out the stable/testing/unstable philosophie
[02:04] <scheuri> philosophy
[02:04] <[arcane] > scheuri: oo
[02:04] <[arcane] > lol
[02:04] <kuwaitman80> hi guys
[02:04] <PlumTree> please, help me. 'sudo apt-get install azureus
[02:04] <PlumTree> ' is this command enough to install azureus in my terminal?
[02:04] <mattikoo> did I must close gome sounds that I can to hear sounds from realplayer
[02:04] <xice> nope
[02:04] <orbin> kbrooks: hip hip hooray :)  how's your grub thing going?
[02:04] <Lemino> orbin: aha... well, I'll just continue my search then ;)
[02:04] <alphaBin> yes
[02:04] <PlumTree> sorry I repeat but I thoght nobody read me :P
[02:04] <scheuri> [arcane] : becuase your statement "sid is latest" ist not entirely correct and might be misleading and leading you into loads of troubles
[02:04] <alphaBin> it'll work
[02:05] <tarzeau> no irc.ubuntu.com ?
[02:05] <orbin> ubotu: tell PlumTree about azureus
[02:05] <soundray> Bladesonfire: still here?
[02:05] <kbrooks> orbin: good so fr. just need to work on the grub parsing part (50% complete)
[02:05] <PlumTree> thanks ;)
[02:05] <orbin> kbrooks: righto
[02:05] <jgfig> Yo can anyone help? I boot up after install and ths >> "GRUB loading, please wait... Error 18" ???
[02:05] <avalost> anyone having problems running update-flashplugin ?
[02:05] <Ghostwolf> do I just "burn" the iso image to the usb thumbdrive?
[02:05] <orbin> jgfig: did you search the forum?
[02:05] <kbrooks> orbin: i need to ask #python later on :-)
[02:05] <jgfig> oh wounder
[02:05] <avalost> mine hangs and will not update at all..
[02:05] <kuwaitman80> anyone have a backdround on installing java jdk on ubuntu?
[02:05] <Bladesonfire> soundray: yep
[02:05] <jgfig> sorry i didnt notice my name changed
[02:06] <jgfig> didnt know you were talking to me sorry :/ ill check them
[02:06] <Bladesonfire> soundray: I hope you have some good news for me =D
[02:06] <scheuri> PlumTree: the debian package management allows to install on software and installing all needed software automatically...so yes, if azureus is the correct packagee name, that woule be sufficent
[02:06] <Lukic> I got Ubuntu 6.06 Live CD but it won't boot.How to set it?I tried XP instalation and it boots fine.
[02:06] <PlumTree> scheuri, thanks a lot. I do not understand it well, but I will try.
[02:06] <soundray> Bladesonfire: have you ever hit Tab at the yaboot prompt and looked at the options there?
[02:07] <Pizbit> Lukic: Verify the downloaded file and/or burn the cd again at a slower speed.
[02:07] <scheuri> Lukic: you dl live CD and burned it and you cannot boot from it? is that correct?
[02:07] <PlumTree> So the first step is to download Azureus and the next one to write that command into my terminal?
[02:07] <Bladesonfire> I have not
[02:07] <Bladesonfire> Will try that now
[02:07] <scheuri> Lukic: pizbit is absoluetly correct...:)
[02:07] <scheuri> I am too slow for IRC...;)
[02:07] <Lukic> Yes scheuri
[02:07] <scheuri> Lukic: and another bootable CD does work on the same machine?
[02:07] <Pizbit> scheuri: Happened to me earlier this week with the RC cd, reburnt at a slower speed and it worked, stupid free cds
[02:08] <Bladesonfire> soundray: BTW, by editing the /etc/group file by hand, I completed fubar'd it... id >> uid=1000(dienn) gid=1000(dienn) groups=33(www-data),1000(dienn)
[02:08] <Bladesonfire> soundray: And my file system is on hdc3
[02:08] <Lukic> Yes
[02:08] <scheuri> Pizbit: :)
[02:08] <Klaidas> is there a way to see how much bandwidth has been used on a specific port?
[02:08] <soundray> PlumTree: no, it will download it automatically, if the repository is configured.
[02:08] <scheuri> Lukic: then do as pizbit sugested...try burn it on a slower speed, if that doesnt work dl it again
[02:08] <Pizbit> Klaidas: I only know of ntop, although that's a fair bit over the top.
[02:09] <mattikoo> what sound system is un use in dapper?
[02:09] <mattikoo> on use
[02:09] <Lukic> I burned it on a cdrw.Can that be a problem?
[02:09] <scheuri> PlumTree: the command in CLI (command line) to install azureus will do everythin which is needed...taken that everything is set up well
[02:09] <Lukic> I'll try to burn it again
[02:09] <scheuri> Lukic: I dont know...maybe...have you "terminated" the CD?
[02:10] <jenda> Seveas!
[02:10] <Lukic> Terminated?
[02:10] <Klaidas> how about somewhere in the logs? is that information logged?
[02:10] <Pizbit> Lukic: 'finalised'
[02:10] <scheuri> Lukic: sometimes burn programs allow that you can add more stuff to a cd or that you terminate it so you cant add anything again...
[02:10] <Bladesonfire> soundray: Hitting tab only shows one option to boot =/
[02:10] <scheuri> Pizbit: thousand thanks...:)
[02:10] <PlumTree> scheuri, thanks. I installed ubuntu yesterday and everything is  still a secret for me.
[02:11] <scheuri> PlumTree: welcome to ubuntu...:)...there are over 15'000 software packages avaiable online...azureus might be on if it
[02:11] <PlumTree> scheuri, it said the operation needed the admin priviligations.
[02:11] <Lukic> I didn't terminated it.Should I do that?
[02:11] <Lemino> orbin: found the answer to my little quest; you have to specify the value with a decimal. so 6 becomes 0.6 and so on. the default in sound-juicer is 0.5, that is 5.
[02:11] <Bladesonfire> soundray: Hitting tab only shows one option to boot =/
[02:11] <scheuri> PlumTree: to find out try on the CLI "sudo aptitude search azureus" (or whatever)
[02:11] <Bladesonfire> Sorry
[02:12] <scheuri> PlumTree: that is true...
[02:12] <soundray> Bladesonfire: try booting the "expert" thing as before.
[02:12] <Vic_Astro> After succesfully installing VMware Server, when trying to run it i got these error messages: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d14905 Doesn't look like a vmware error, i'm sure i messed up somewhere else. Any ideas?
[02:12] <PlumTree> scheuri, ubuntu is very hard for me, a person who lived with windows and didnt know antyhing about existing linux ;P
[02:12] <PlumTree> scheuri, how can I get the admin priviligations?
[02:12] <orbin> Lemino: where is this value?  i can't see anything in juicer's prefs
[02:12] <scheuri> PlumTree: do not worry...it will be hard at the beginning but get it easier very soon
[02:12] <soundray> Bladesonfire: mount the filesystem with 'sudo mount /dev/hdc3 /mnt', then revert your changes with 'sudo nano /mnt/etc/group'
[02:13] <Lukic> Scheuri should I terminate it?
[02:13] <scheuri> PlumTree: your user already has actually...by adding sudo in front of commands you ask the system to make those commands run in administrative mode
[02:13] <PlumTree> That's my personal commputer so.. the only problem is how can I move me into administrator
[02:13] <Pizbit> Lukic: Worth a try, or use another cd etc
[02:13] <scheuri> Lukic: I'd say so, yes
[02:13] <tubbie> !amarok
[02:13] <PlumTree> ok
[02:13] <ubotu> amarok is, like, a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/ - To install Amarok 1.4 on Ubuntu, see http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[02:14] <Lukic> Ok.Thanks a lot.I'll try that.
[02:14] <scheuri> PlumTree: so...the command to search the package for azureus would be "sudo aptitude search [nameofprogram] "
[02:14] <tubbie> Amarok 1.4 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu Dapper.
[02:14] <Lemino> orbin: you have to edit the profiles. choose ogg (audio, not voice) and then in the end of the gstreamer-pipe you'll find the value to change.
[02:14] <tubbie> but no package for ubuntu itself?
[02:14] <scheuri> tubbie: thanks...
[02:14] <orbin> Lemino: ah i see.  thanks for the info
[02:15] <Bladesonfire> soundray: I'm getting an "invalid argument" error
[02:15] <PlumTree> I am full of admire about you all who help so stupid people as me ;P
[02:16] <scheuri> PlumTree: we do that because we think it is worth it...:)
[02:16] <michel99921> kommt da was??
[02:16] <Bladesonfire> soundray: there was no /mnt dir, so I just created /target, but apparently, the command doesn't like something
[02:16] <scheuri> michel99921: ja...da kommt was
[02:16] <PlumTree> ;-)
[02:16] <nutterpc> PlumTree,  not stupid...........technologically impaired
[02:16] <PlumTree> nutterpc, :P
[02:16] <Bladesonfire> soundray: "mount /dev/hdc3 /target" ... also tried "mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc3 /target" (btw, no need for sudo as in the shell, I'm already root)
[02:16] <PlumTree> My friends say I am the first girl they know who has linux instead of windows.
[02:17] <scheuri> PlumTree: see...girlpower!!!
[02:17] <PlumTree> :D
[02:17] <nutterpc> PlumTree,  my mum uses it
[02:17] <PlumTree> girlubuntupower :P
[02:17] <Hannibal> PlumTree: by the time you're capable of helping people yourself (which will be soon enough at this rate) you'll learn soon enough that there's a vast difference between 'stupid' and 'technologically impaired' anyway.
[02:17] <nutterpc> good call Hannibal
[02:18] <PlumTree> I think it could be more understandable for me if it was in polish ;-)
[02:18] <scheuri> PlumTree:  in here or ubuntu?
[02:18] <soundray> Bladesonfire: strange... is /dev/hdc3 listed when you run 'fdisk -l'?
[02:18] <PlumTree> my english is not so good to understand everything in technicall language
[02:18] <PlumTree> scheuri, in here.
[02:18] <Ghostwolf> How do I make kubuntu run from usb thumb drive?
[02:18] <scheuri> PlumTree: ah, okay then...sorry...I cant speak polish...:)
[02:18] <PlumTree> scheuri, don't worry ;P
[02:18] <Bladesonfire> soundray: There's no fdisk command =/
[02:19] <Hannibal> PlumTree: I'm saying you're not stupid. And that people who really are stupid are a lot harder to help.
[02:19] <Bladesonfire> This mode is very ... helpful...
[02:19] <PlumTree> I understand everything in english which is spoken here
[02:19] <soundray> Bladesonfire: right, PPC... do you have pdisk?
[02:19] <_Crane> Hello
[02:19] <inetd> anyone know howto save tab information in gnome-terminal?
[02:19] <scheuri> PlumTree: see...very good start...so....your problem is solved?
[02:19] <Hannibal> PlumTree: *g* that alone qualifies you as not stupid anyway :)
[02:19] <PlumTree> but not everything at all- (you know, I wouldn't understand also when it is polish :P)
[02:19] <PlumTree> Hannibal, nice ;-)
[02:20] <Predator> Hannibal vs Predator
[02:20] <PlumTree> scheuri, I do not know whether my problem is solved
[02:20] <Hannibal> wha? :)
[02:20] <PlumTree> something is being installed now still.
[02:20] <Joetheodd> Hannibal vs Predator? Never heard of that? =p
[02:20] <Bladesonfire> soundray: no pdisk either
[02:20] <Hannibal> nope.
[02:20] <PlumTree> where are you all grom?
[02:20] <PlumTree> from*
[02:20] <scheuri> PlumTree: ahh...okay...so you used that command and now your computer is doing something?
[02:20] <scheuri> grom?
[02:20] <Joetheodd> PlumTree: Wisconsin USA
[02:20] <scheuri> ah
[02:21] <PlumTree> scheuri, yes :) so it is good because it is doing something at all :P
[02:21] <Vic_Astro> PlumTree, have you tried #ubuntu-pl ?
[02:21] <scheuri> PlumTree: Switzerland,...err...Europe...;)
[02:21] <babo> ubuntu has no RCS ... ?
[02:21] <scheuri> PlumTree: ...;)
[02:21] <Joetheodd> PlumTree: The land of boats, cheese, and hodags.
[02:21] <Hannibal> Amsterdam, Netherlands, Europe, Universe, ...
[02:21] <Hannibal> hodags?
[02:21] <V3ro> HI!
[02:21] <scheuri> Hannibal: beg your padon...which univers?
[02:21] <PlumTree> :P Poland anyone?
[02:21] <_Crane> Alabama USA
[02:21] <tubbie> hello
[02:21] <Joetheodd> Hannibal: urbandictionary.com
[02:21] <Bladesonfire> Is there a Knoppix-like distro that I can get a Live-CD for PPC?
[02:21] <nutterpc> Aussie here :)
[02:21] <PlumTree> Vic_Astro, ubuntu-pl is a nice idea :P
[02:21] <tubbie> why aren't there new packages for amarok 1.4?
[02:21] <Hannibal> heh.
[02:22] <Vic_Astro> PlumTree, and it has 25 people or so in it ;)
[02:22] <soundray> Bladesonfire: there is a Ubuntu live CD for PPC
[02:22] <scheuri> tubbie: for ubuntu? or kubuntu?
[02:22] <tubbie> Ubuntu
[02:22] <PlumTree> this network Vic_Astro ?
[02:22] <g-nome> scheuri: you from CH too :-)
[02:22] <Vic_Astro> Yes, indeed, PlumTree
[02:22] <V3ro> I need change the hostname, but from terminal and Ubuntu Live CD... How Can I do it?
[02:22] <scheuri> tubbie: because AFAIK only kbuntu offers new amarok packages on between releases
[02:22] <scheuri> g-nome: yes..:)
[02:22] <PlumTree> * Cannot join #ubuntu-pl (You are banned
[02:22] <Bladesonfire> soundray: Maybe I'll just download that and see if it has a few more tools. I have the Kubuntu 5.10 cd, but it gives me the same options as this ubuntu dapper server image
[02:22] <PlumTree> hmm?
[02:23] <scheuri> PlumTree: uh...they are quite unfriendly
[02:23] <Bladesonfire> soundray: thanks for your help =D
[02:23] <g-nome> scheui: german speaking of french or italian
[02:23] <scheuri> g-nome: german actually
[02:23] <PlumTree> I have got IP who is owned by many people
[02:23] <scheuri> PlumTree: ah...
[02:23] <PlumTree> so I think somebody with my IP got banned
[02:23] <tubbie> anway to use my gtk2 themes with amarok?
[02:23] <PlumTree> and in result I am banned also ;(
[02:23] <tubbie> any way*
[02:23] <g-nome> scheuri: ok me too
[02:23] <scheuri> g-nome: well, does not surprise me..;)
[02:23] <Joetheodd> Well, time to go get dressed and survive the outside world.
[02:23] <Joetheodd> =/
[02:24] <Joetheodd> School. Last day before finals.
[02:24] <PlumTree> Joetheodd, what time is there now ;P?
[02:24] <_Crane> Good luck
[02:24] <g-nome> scheuri: what that, if i may ask?
[02:24] <Hannibal> Joetheodd: good luck.
[02:24] <scheuri> tubbie: cant help you with that sorry
[02:24] <Joetheodd> PlumTree: 0724
[02:24] <g-nome> PlumTree: are you using a proxy or TOR?
[02:24] <PlumTree> here it is almost 3 p.m.
[02:24] <PlumTree> g-nome, proxy.
[02:24] <V3ro> ?
[02:24] <PlumTree> All day has been spent with ubuntu :P
[02:24] <_Crane> Wow it's 7:30 am here
[02:24] <scheuri> g-nome: well, most people live in german speaking part...:)
[02:25] <g-nome> scheuri: scho :-)
[02:25] <scheuri> g-nome: eb...;)
[02:25] <PlumTree> nice, nice. I will come here more often, meet you and visit in the holidays time :P
[02:26] <PlumTree> travelling over the world.
[02:26] <scheuri> PlumTree: is your compter still downloading?
[02:26] <PlumTree> scheuri, yes
[02:26] <PlumTree> j2re1.4 libcommons-cli-java liblog4j1.2-java libseda-java
[02:26] <PlumTree>   libswt-gtk-3.1-java libswt-gtk-3.1-jni
[02:26] <PlumTree> it is installing java.
[02:26] <scheuri> uh...oky...
[02:26] <inetd> i need to know a way to open tabs in gnome-terminal automatically
[02:26] <scheuri> hmm...I am missing keys while writing...bad sign
[02:27] <PlumTree> scheuri, I am sure you are hungry.
[02:27] <scheuri> PlumTree: no, actually I am tired...:)....but food would be nice too
[02:27] <PlumTree> scheuri, so go to the kitchen and cook something ;-)
[02:27] <PlumTree> female and male roles are mixed.
[02:27] <scheuri> PlumTree: at university...in the middle of a lesson...;)
[02:27] <PlumTree> I am a female and sit here and play with ubuntu
[02:28] <PlumTree> :P
[02:28] <PlumTree> scheuri, middle of a lesson?
[02:28] <scheuri> PlumTree: yes...
[02:28] <PlumTree> don't you learn there ;)?
[02:28] <scheuri> PlumTree: hardly...;)
[02:28] <PlumTree> you irc at the lesson, yes :)?
[02:28] <Hannibal> sounds familiar scheuri
[02:28] <PlumTree> oh, you naughty student :P
[02:29] <scheuri> PlumTree: to help people like you...;)
[02:29] <Hexidigital_> PlumTree has me amazed... only the second female i've seen on here who ADMITTEDLY "plays with ubuntu"... i DO have faith in geeky girls :0)
[02:29] <Hannibal> once IRC feels more productive than class, you know there's something wrong with the class :)
[02:29] <mattikoo> I have errors in video codecs I can't see by totem's or xine's windows for media right. Image is too long. How can I fix codecs or plugins or something? I have installed all gstreamer-ugly etc. and w32 codecs. Must I install ubuntu again or how I fix these video problems?
[02:29] <PlumTree> scheuri, so that's your task in the university?
[02:29] <spikeb> Hexidigital_, heh
[02:29] <spikeb> Hexidigital_, you haven't been paying attention then
[02:29] <PlumTree> so what do you study?
[02:29] <Hexidigital_> spikeb:: why's that?
[02:30] <spikeb> Hexidigital_, because the ubuntu geek girl community is fairly large
[02:30] <PlumTree> Hannibal, sorry :P
[02:30] <scheuri> PlumTree: I study IT system managment...at least I trey
[02:30] <scheuri> try
[02:30] <orbin> inetd: --tab-with-profile option?
[02:30] <scheuri> mattikoo: have you installed vlc?
[02:31] <PlumTree> I went to ubuntu offtopic.
[02:31] <mattikoo> scheuri: yes
[02:31] <scheuri> mattikoo: and what kind of image is too long?
[02:31] <Rambo3> ubuntu-offtopic is reserved for relgion and repbilicans bashing
[02:31] <PlumTree> but there nobody talks ;-)
[02:31] <Hexidigital_> spikeb:: i just need to find one who lives around my area... (but she's probably busy playing with ubuntu, so therefore the chances of collision are null)
[02:31] <tubbie> amarok can not retrief the lyric form lyrc.com.ar :(
[02:31] <YogSothoth> thank you ompaul! Really great job, so smater like that :)
[02:31] <mattikoo> scheuri: streaming video
[02:31] <scheuri> Hannibal: you are right
[02:31] <YogSothoth> ompaul: I reboot and see now
[02:31] <spikeb> Hexidigital_, she has her choice of just about any geek guy on the planet, if that is what she wants. good luck.
[02:31] <PlumTree> eh, so I go to go and not disturb you with helping people ;-)
[02:31] <PlumTree> see you next time
[02:31] <Hexidigital_> :)
[02:31] <tubbie> unkown host
[02:31] <scheuri> mattikoo: it doesnt play in vlc?
[02:31] <tubbie> can u set another source?
[02:32] <mattikoo> scheuri:scheuri: I haven't got plugin
[02:32] <mattikoo> for firefox
[02:32] <Hexidigital_> gotta run guys... have a great day everybody
[02:32] <soundray> Thanks Hexidigital_
[02:32] <mattikoo> scheuri: sorry
[02:32] <tanek> hi, any ideas on how to get my system to recognize my usb hd?
[02:33] <scheuri> mattikoo: well...you surely do not need to reinstall ubuntu...but...I maybe not that much of a help
[02:33] <Rambo3> tanek: is hd formated, does it have partions/ tables
[02:33] <soundray> tanek: what makes you conclude it isn't being recognized?
[02:34] <mattikoo> scheuri: how can I reinstall videoplayers and codecs?
[02:34] <mattikoo> and change settins
[02:34] <tanek> its formatted, but doesnt turn up in /dev
[02:34] <Immolo> Hello does anyone know how to setup an ssh tunnel so I can remotly login to a box where the router doesn't allow forwarding
[02:34] <Rambo3> tanek : mount /dev/sda1 ?
[02:34] <soundray> tanek: check if it shows in the output of 'lsusb'
[02:34] <scheuri> mattikoo: If i recall correctly there is an option with apt-get and aptitude to reinstall
[02:35] <tanek> Rambo3: ye, thats where it doesnt show up...
[02:35] <mattikoo> scheuri: what is this magic ? :)
[02:35] <DrNickRiviera> how well can a ubuntu installation be moved from one computer to another
[02:35] <scheuri> mattikoo: wish I knew...;)
[02:35] <DrNickRiviera> in other words does it work ok to "change" the entire hardware without reinstalling
[02:35] <Rambo3> tanek: then naby its mounted under diffrent /dev/
[02:35] <Rambo3> check lsusb
[02:36] <tanek> ill check that
[02:36] <tanek> sec
[02:36] <soundray> DrNickRiviera: depending on how similar the two machines are, it may or may not work.
[02:36] <tanek> yep, see it in lsusb
[02:36] <soundray> DrNickRiviera: someone here reported earlier that they changed the mainboard without any hassle.
[02:36] <tanek> but not as /dev/sda
[02:36] <lsuactiafner> how do limit the speed at which apt-get downloads?
[02:36] <soundray> tanek: good, then it's being recognized.
[02:36] <DrNickRiviera> could it mess the system up so that it doesn't work or runs much slower in the first computer afterwards?
[02:36] <scheuri> mattikoo: I dont think that is necessary actually....there are files out there you just cant play for some reasons...if you cant play it with vlc...then chances are small it works otherwise (my opinion)
[02:36] <Rambo3> sdb ?
[02:37] <tanek> ye, sorry for that mistell then. so how to mount :S?
[02:37] <soundray> DrNickRiviera: unlikely. It'll either work fine or not at all.
[02:37] <tanek> nope, no sdx at all
[02:37] <Seantater_> what makes selinux "security enhanced"?
[02:37] <spikeb> the se
[02:37] <DrNickRiviera> will just give it a try then, haven't got much to loose
[02:37] <tanek> spikeb: nice answer :D
[02:37] <soundray> tanek: get a list of known partitions with 'fdisk -l' and determine the device name thus
[02:37] <Seantater_> spikeb: ah -- ha
[02:38] <TomaszD> PlumTree, potrzebujesz pomocy podobno
[02:38] <PlumTree> TomaszD, :) Polak!
[02:38] <tanek> fdisk -l doesnt give any output, soundray
[02:38] <soundray> DrNickRiviera: it may be prudent to switch the video driver to something generic
[02:38] <JoKo> Hi... I've just installed the server version of Dapper RC... How to update to the desktop version (GNOME)? It seems that ubuntu-desktop doesn't exist in Dapper...
[02:38] <scheuri> Seantater_: you better check google and wikis for that...too much to answer in here
[02:38] <PlumTree> tak, bardzo chetnie i to duzo pomocy w sumie
[02:38] <mattikoo> scheuri: thank you :) I will try it. Now I must clean at home. ( order )
[02:38] <PlumTree> moze przejdziemy na query
[02:38] <soundray> tanek: erm... sudo fdisk -l ?
[02:38] <TomaszD> PlumTree, > priv
[02:38] <scheuri> mattikoo: easy...
[02:38] <Seantater_> scheuri: okay -- thanks anyway
[02:38] <tanek> ah :$
[02:39] <lsuactiafner> how do i tell dist-upgrade to overwrite old config files with new ones?
[02:39] <TomaszD> PlumTree, musisz zarejestrowa pseudonim, inaczej nie zadziaa
[02:39] <tanek> only shows my /dev/hda
[02:39] <Bladesonfire> JoKo: apt-cache search xubuntu-desktop ... I just want to know if you can see that
[02:39] <TomaszD> PlumTree, /msg nickserv register haso
[02:39] <lsuactiafner> i hacked at this system and i think a dist-upgrade wont work unless it overwrites and deletes as much as possible
[02:39] <PlumTree> TomaszD, rejestrowalam jakis czas temu
[02:39] <soundray> tanek: in a terminal, run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', then unplug your disk, wait a few seconds, then plug it in again and look for errors in the log.
[02:40] <TomaszD> PlumTree, ale jeste uwierzytelniona? /msg nickserv identify haso
[02:40] <JoKo> Bladesonfire, nothing appears...
[02:40] <TomaszD> PlumTree, mam obiad, wrc za 10 minut
[02:40] <PlumTree> it says I have incorrect password :/ I do not know why
[02:40] <PlumTree> ok
[02:40] <phreak97> is there a temporary internet files for firefox?
[02:40] <phreak97> under ubuntu?
[02:41] <tanek> soundray: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[02:41] <Bladesonfire> JoKo: only thing I can think of is making sure your repos are correct (/etc/apt/sources.list), that you've run "sudo apt-get update", and that your internet connection is working
[02:41] <tubbie> any one got amarok 1.4 running?
[02:41] <Robbster> lo all. How can I install the MSFONTS package? which repository is it in? (if any?)
[02:41] <JoKo> phreak97, yes, in your FF's profile
[02:41] <orbin> phreak97: type about:cache in the url bar
[02:42] <JoKo> Bladesonfire, apt-get update seems to be working and so internet...
[02:42] <tanek> soundray: it doesnt show up in lsusb any more either
[02:42] <kermitX_> !info msttcorefonts
[02:42] <orbin> Robbster: msttcorefonts is in multiverse
[02:42] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[02:42] <Robbster> orbin: thx
[02:43] <orbin> kermitX_: :P
[02:43] <Robbster> kermitX_: thx. was missing th 'core' in the package name :)
[02:43] <vinboy> hi
[02:43] <soundray> tanek: are you plugging it into a hub?
[02:43] <C_REATiVE_> when i install ubuntu aside windows with grub then i cannot boot windows because it says hal.dll is not found. How can i fix this ?
[02:43] <vinboy> i'm just wondering what sort of cpu u guys running?
[02:43] <tanek> soundray: nope.
[02:44] <seigneur> 
[02:44] <tanek> vinboy: im running a AMD Turion 64 atm. why would u want to know that? :P
[02:44] <Hobbsee> seigneur: english only please
[02:44] <soundray> tanek: I have a flash stick that behaves like that occasionally. I have to plug it a few times until it's recognized.
[02:44] <soundray> !zh
[02:44] <ubotu> For support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-cn
[02:44] <soundray> :)
[02:44] <aLPHa_LeaK> vinboy: i'm using a 933mhz p3 and a 1.25ghz g4 ;)
[02:44] <seigneur> oh,my god
[02:45] <Bladesonfire> JoKo: Just make sure the line "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted" and "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted" is in your sources.list ... otherwise, I don't know what else to do
[02:45] <tanek> soundray: ok, ill try to get it recognized in lsusb again then
[02:45] <Vic_Astro> After succesfully installing VMware Server, when trying to run it i got these error messages: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d14905 Doesn't look like a vmware error, i'm sure i messed up somewhere else. Running Ubuntu Dapper up-to-date. Any ideas?
[02:46] <TomaszD> PlumTree, to mw tutaj, moe nas nie wyrzuc
[02:46] <soundray> tanek: it'll work eventually :)  -- off to lunch; l8r
[02:46] <Bladesonfire> I did a server version install of server rc as well and was able to install xubuntu-desktop without any problems
[02:46] <vinboy> aLPHa_LeaK: ic.. i'm planning to get a p4
[02:46] <ErenTurkay> hi
[02:46] <PlumTree> tomasz, moge zmienic nicka
[02:46] <PlumTree> albo poczekaj
[02:46] <tubbie> omg, i want amarok 1.4 for Ubuntu
[02:46] <PlumTree> zainstaluje sobie kadu ;] 
[02:46] <TomaszD> I apologise everyone for speaking in Polish here, but we seem to have a technical problem with priv msg
[02:46] <ErenTurkay> does 6.06 version release ?
[02:46] <aLPHa_LeaK> vinboy: it's not a p4 but a g4...
[02:46] <tanek> soundray: thx for helping out
[02:47] <scheuri> ErenTurkay: not yet....
[02:47] <cyne> does linux support winmodems yet?
[02:47] <ErenTurkay> scheuri: when ?
[02:47] <tubbie> cycom, mine works
[02:47] <PlumTree> ok, I managed to get tu ubuntupl
[02:47] <scheuri> ErenTurkay: In June...either tomorrow or a bit later...patience is your friend
[02:47] <PlumTree> TomaszD, dziekuje za dobre checi- dostalam sie na ubuntu-pl i tam moze sie popytam ;-)
[02:47] <cyne> tubbie, in ubuntu?
[02:47] <ErenTurkay> huh..
[02:47] <tubbie> yea
[02:47] <ErenTurkay> i can not wait tomorrow i must download now :(
[02:47] <TomaszD> PlumTree, te tam jestem
[02:47] <ubuntu> quelqu'un parle franais?
[02:47] <tubbie> works out of the box
[02:47] <Artefact2> hi all
[02:47] <cyne> tubbie, so no extra configuration was needed?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> PlumTree: english here, please :)
[02:47] <Artefact2> i got a problem
[02:48] <scheuri> ErenTurkay: then do so....just keep it upgraded!
[02:48] <thoreauputic> !fr
[02:48] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:48] <PlumTree> thoreauputic, off course ;-)
[02:48] <tubbie> cycom, I don't use it
[02:48] <cyne> tubbie: nice
[02:48] <thoreauputic> PlumTree: :)
[02:48] <scheuri> ErenTurkay: but be aware until final release it needs to be considered RC
[02:48] <tubbie> but I see it in the network interface list
[02:48] <ErenTurkay> scheuri: ok.. :(
[02:48] <cyne> tubbie, i will rarely use mine but if it doesn't work i will have to use windows :(
[02:48] <ubuntu> merci
[02:48] <Artefact2> when I install Ubuntu, after the copy, it stays to 25%
[02:49] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: pas de quoi :)
[02:49] <ErenTurkay> can we dist upgrade 5 to 6 ?
[02:49] <tubbie> why use winmodem anyway
[02:49] <thoreauputic> ErenTurkay: yes
[02:49] <thoreauputic> !upgrade
[02:49] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[02:49] <scheuri> ErenTurkay: sure...
[02:49] <ErenTurkay> ok just i 'll download 5.x version of ubuntu and i'lll upgrade to 6.x
[02:49] <JoKo> Bladesonfire, you were right... I was using outdated mirrors
[02:50] <thoreauputic> ErenTurkay: whynot dowload the release candidate ?
[02:50] <scheuri> ErenTurkay: ...you may DL 6.x right now...it wont take long to be final...
[02:50] <Bladesonfire> JoKo: Glad it works now =D
[02:50] <scheuri> ErenTurkay: there wont be many things that change...
[02:50] <thoreauputic> ErenTurkay: much closer to the final version
[02:50] <scheuri> ErenTurkay: to go to 5.x first then 6.x is a bit too much right now I guess
[02:50] <ErenTurkay> hmm..
[02:51] <cyne> tubbie, because it is built into my laptop
[02:51] <scheuri> ErenTurkay: unless you need an official final for legal issues or whatever
[02:51] <thoreauputic> ErenTurkay:  cdimage.ubuntu.com
[02:51] <Dextorion> hi, just did a apt-get dist-upgrade and it broke my nvida driver? I've tried to run the nvidia-installer script, just as before. But it wont work.  Anyone have a pointer for me, what im doing wrong?
[02:51] <Artefact2> when I install Ubuntu, it bugs
[02:51] <ErenTurkay> i said, i must download now, becouse my adsl limit is not full yet :))
[02:51] <Bladesonfire> ErenTurkay: I agree... I would just use 6.x
[02:51] <cyne> how can i tell if my winmodem is supported by ubuntu?
[02:52] <HymnToLife> Artefact2> say "it hangs" instead :p
[02:52] <Artefact2> it copys packages and after, it stay to 25%
[02:52] <scheuri> Dextorion: probably your kernel got updated...you probably need a new driver downloaded
[02:52] <HymnToLife> !tell cyne about winmodem
[02:52] <Dextorion> scheuri: uname -r says the same as before. Its a kernel i compiled myself
[02:52] <ErenTurkay> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/flight-7/ , is it right ??
[02:52] <cyne> Artefact2, sounds like you have a corrupt burn or download... try downloading again and burning at a slower speed
[02:52] <scheuri> Dextorion: oh, sorry...then I dont know...maybe so xorg-changes??
[02:53] <Bladesonfire> ErenTurkay: Try http://ubuntu.com/testing/
[02:53] <Artefact2> cyne, my MD5SUM matchs !
[02:53] <Dextorion> scheuri: it was xorg.. or desktop chnges anyways.  but.. i just cant find what to do.
[02:53] <scheuri> Dextorion: I am afraid I cant help that much as I am not using binary drivers so far
[02:54] <scheuri> Dextorion: did you check of update made a new xorg.conf??
[02:54] <Dextorion> scheuri: :) allrigty. Thanks anyways!
[02:54] <scheuri> of=if
[02:54] <orbin> cyne: do you know what type of modem it is?
[02:54] <Dextorion> scheuri: yupp, it didnt.
[02:54] <scheuri> Dextorion: uuuhh...then I am really at my limits
[02:54] <PlumTree> bye ;-) see you next time.
[02:54] <cyne> orbin: checking
[02:54] <scheuri> Bye Plumtree
[02:54] <ErenTurkay> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/  ok i think that's right :)
[02:54] <Dextorion> scheuri: and Nvidia script says it compiled and installed the driver correctly. but when i start x it says it cant find the module
[02:55] <Dextorion> scheuri: just like xorg changed where it looks for modules in the update or something
[02:55] <ErenTurkay> does ubuntu have GUI installition tool ?
[02:55] <ErenTurkay> or text ?
[02:55] <scheuri> Dextorion: did you reload your X?
[02:55] <cyne> orbin it's a Lucent/Agere SoftModem (SV92P, Scorpio)
[02:55] <Dextorion> scheuri: sure
[02:55] <scheuri> ErenTurkay: both...
[02:55] <Bladesonfire> ErenTurkay: The RC does have a live install
[02:55] <scheuri> Dextorion: complete reboot?
[02:55] <Dextorion> ErenTurkay: The live cd have some sort of gui install
[02:55] <Dextorion> scheuri: ya ;)
[02:56] <Rambo3> espersso
[02:56] <orbin> cyne: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[02:56] <scheuri> Dextorion: *sighs*...sorry then
[02:56] <ErenTurkay> oh.. i will install http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso , and i want to install on my harddisk..
[02:56] <Dextorion> scheuri: :) its okay mate. i'll figure something out.  Or someone will :D
[02:56] <scheuri> :)
[02:56] <orbin> cyne: lucky...seems like you can use a kernel module...search for lucent
[02:56] <Bladesonfire> ErenTurkay: Sounds like a good plan =D
[02:56] <ErenTurkay> if i can not install on hdd, i won't download this iso
[02:57] <orbin> cyne: ....in that page
[02:57] <cyne> orbin..nice i will check it out... my laptop arrives one day after dapper is released... gives me a day to download and then install :P
[02:57] <thoreauputic> ErenTurkay: you can , if you have more than 192MB RAM
[02:57] <Bladesonfire> ErenTurkay: I JUST finished downloading that image (well, the ppc version), and I'm booting it now and I'll tell you if you can install ;)
[02:57] <thoreauputic> ErenTurkay: otherwise use the alternate ISO
[02:57] <ErenTurkay> i have got a 512 Mb ram
[02:58] <thoreauputic> ErenTurkay: no problem then
[02:58] <ErenTurkay> Bladesonfire: ok i'm waiting :)
[02:58] <ErenTurkay> so.. i will download this iso ?
[02:58] <Bladesonfire> Man, I didn't know I needed 192MB RAM =/
[02:58] <scheuri> ErenTurkay: yes, you will
[02:58] <Tomcat__> ErenTurkay: Yes.
[02:58] <thoreauputic> ErenTurkay: the desktop ISO is a live CD with an install function built in
[02:58] <Bladesonfire> Looks like it's still booting, though
[02:58] <ErenTurkay> PC (Intel x86) desktop CD
[02:58] <tarzeau> 11 hours for ubuntu 6.06 left?
[02:58] <ErenTurkay> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso
[02:58] <Bladesonfire> ErenTurkay: Yes
[02:59] <scheuri> tarzeau: maybe, maybe not...patience is your friend
[02:59] <orbin> cyne: you're gonna d/load the iso via dialup? :-/
[02:59] <ErenTurkay> ok so much thanks for helping
[02:59] <ErenTurkay> wget -c http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso
[02:59] <ErenTurkay> ;))
[02:59] <Artefact2> the Dapper is stable ?
[02:59] <thoreauputic> ErenTurkay: yes, if you have a PC and not amd64 or mac etc
[02:59] <ErenTurkay> x64
[02:59] <ErenTurkay> sorry
[02:59] <ErenTurkay> x86 :)
[02:59] <scheuri> Artefact2: not yet...patience is your friend
[02:59] <Dextorion> and it just broke my nvidia driver!!
[02:59] <Dextorion> :)
[02:59] <Artefact2> scheuri, i will wait tomorrow
[02:59] <Bladesonfire> ErenTurkay: I will confirm there is an install icon on the desktop ;)
[02:59] <j2daosh> !easysources
[02:59] <ubotu> j2daosh: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:59] <scheuri> Artefact2: well, maybe it is tomorrow, maybe it isnt
[03:00] <ErenTurkay> Bladesonfire: ok now i'm downloading :)
[03:00] <Bladesonfire> BTW, does anyone use Xubuntu in here? I reaaaaaaallly like it
[03:00] <Artefact2> scheuri, i was said it is tomorrow...
[03:00] <j2daosh> easy source is where?
[03:00] <scheuri> Artefact2: well, yes...that is true...but still...I dont mind if they need more time
[03:00] <Rambo3> !easyubuntu
[03:00] <ubotu> [easyubuntu]  an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[03:00] <ErenTurkay> i didn't use the gnome, i'll try it on ubuntu :)) only one couse :)
[03:00] <Some_Person> What do I do with a .pl perl script?
[03:01] <Artefact2> scheuri, thanks for information
[03:01] <scheuri> Artefact2: dont tear them apart if they dont release tomorrow...;)
[03:01] <emergentdude> Hi. How do I upgrade from 4.10?
[03:01] <j2daosh> ./scriptname
[03:01] <orbin> j2daosh: http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:01] <scheuri> emergentdude: step by step
[03:01] <Vic_Astro> Some_Person, perl script.pl
[03:01] <Bladesonfire> If you use KDE, there's always Kubuntu 6.06 RC (my weapon of choice)
[03:01] <Rambo3> emergentdude: upgrade what
[03:01] <ErenTurkay> Bladesonfire: me ?
[03:01] <emergentdude> is there some document that tells you how?
[03:02] <scheuri> ErenTurkay: yes
[03:02] <scheuri> emergentdude: wiki.ubuntu.com might have something for you..
[03:02] <LinuxJones> I guess the Dapper packages are frozen for final release ?
[03:02] <Bladesonfire> ErenTurkay: yes
[03:02] <Artefact2> LinuxJones, no, it isn't
[03:02] <orbin> emergentdude: i'm guessing the process is roughly the same as from breezy...not 100% sure though
[03:03] <spikeb> LinuxJones, yup
[03:03] <scheuri> emergentdude: If I am not mistaken you need to upgrade to 5.04 first, then 5.10 then 6.06
[03:03] <ErenTurkay> i use pardus linux (it's new and turkish distro) and pardus hasn't got a gnome, we are working about gnome packages. and i 'll download ubuntu becouse default desktop is gnome. I think ubuntu uses the gnome as well as another distros ;))
[03:03] <spikeb> !tell emergentdude about upgrade
[03:03] <Some_Person> YAY! No more 14k limit on LINUXANT!!!
[03:04] <LinuxJones> spikeb, I knew it
[03:04] <Some_Person> (i had a perl script that gives license codes)
[03:04] <ErenTurkay> and and and :PPP
[03:06] <Bladesonfire> Dang, Gnome is looking really nice these days
[03:06] <spikeb> yes it is
[03:06] <scheuri> Bladesonfire: quite tempting, eh?
[03:07] <ErenTurkay> Is gtk faster than qt ?
[03:07] <andrejkw> Hey Guys
[03:07] <ErenTurkay> someone says: qt4 faster than qt3 %25
[03:07] <andrejkw> Something is with my fonts. All fonts are bigger than usual.
[03:07] <Bladesonfire> scheuri: quite... might install it on my laptop =P
[03:07] <HymnToLife> ErenTurkay> with a strong enough comp, you won't see any difference
[03:07] <scheuri> Bladesonfire: I usually have both installed anyway...:)
[03:07] <tubbie> omg, i want amarok 1.4 for Ubuntu
[03:07] <andrejkw> Mainly menu fonts, an button and application fonts.
[03:07] <Bladesonfire> tubbie: I can't live without Amarok, either
[03:07] <ErenTurkay> tubbie: :))
[03:07] <HymnToLife> tubbie> it was released a while ago
[03:08] <ErenTurkay> HymnToLife: hmm..
[03:08] <scheuri> tubbie...well...add the sources provided by kubuntu.org and isntall it...
[03:08] <tubbie> yea, but not for Ubuntu
[03:08] <Bladesonfire> scheuri: any problems when install ubuntu-desktop from a kubuntu install?
[03:08] <HymnToLife> tubbie> I'm pretty sure it was
[03:08] <tubbie> can I install kubuntu packages for Ubuntu?
[03:08] <scheuri> Bladesonfire: not as far as I know
[03:08] <ErenTurkay> ubuntu uses debian packages ??
[03:08] <spikeb> yeah tubbie
[03:08] <HymnToLife> tubbie> Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same thing
[03:08] <scheuri> tubbie: it is the same distro....more or less...
[03:08] <Bladesonfire> scheuri: Another project on the horizon ;)
[03:08] <tubbie> cool
[03:08] <scheuri> Bladesonfire: ...;)
[03:08] <tubbie> gping to install it now :)
[03:09] <andrejkw> So, can someone help me?
[03:09] <LinuxJones> The only thing that bothers me about Ubuntu is it's ugly-assed color-scheme.
[03:09] <spikeb> i just change it first thing LinuxJones
[03:09] <scheuri> LinuxJones: happy that linux is about choice then...just change it...;)
[03:09] <ErenTurkay> oohhh :(( i'm downloading 20 K :((
[03:09] <Bladesonfire> andrejkw: what distro are you using and where are all the fonts big?
[03:09] <ErenTurkay> 5 hours :(
[03:10] <LinuxJones> spikeb, I know but it's just not very professional about it and 95% of the people change it I'm sure
[03:10] <scheuri> ErenTurkay: you can order a CD actually...and let it ship to you..
[03:10] <manolis> how can i install programms on ubuntu?
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> LinuxJones, why so sure?
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> no one  i know has changed it
[03:10] <spikeb> LinuxJones, i thought the old brown bit was professional enough, but this new orange stuff heh
[03:10] <Bladesonfire> andrejkw: oops, sorry, didn't see that last line... I think I saw a similar problem you're having on ubuntuforums.org
[03:10] <scheuri> manolis: by using adept, synaptic or the appropriate commands in the console...
[03:10] <LinuxJones> Kamping_Kaiser, look at it for one :)
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> LinuxJones, so? i like it
[03:10] <manolis> How can i install ndiswrapper-1.16???
[03:11] <andrejkw> I am using Gnome. Today I boot and find ut that all fonts are big, only text box, button, and application fonts. I tried checking the sizes in Font but they seem fine.
[03:11] <scheuri> manolis: using the command line or graphical installert?
[03:11] <Tomcat__> andrejkw: Tried rebooting?
[03:11] <andrejkw> Desktop font is fine.
[03:11] <manolis> i will try...
[03:11] <andrejkw> Yes, I did.
[03:12] <Bladesonfire> Can someone do "id" on a command line and tell me their output?
[03:12] <andrejkw> andrejkw Something is with my fonts. All fonts a
[03:12] <andrejkw> oops
[03:12] <scheuri> Bladesonfire: I just did...what exactly do you want to know?
[03:12] <ErenTurkay> scheuri: oh.. i forgot that service :) but i live in turkey and i can't wait 2 weeks
[03:12] <andrejkw> uid=1000(andrejkw) gid=1000(andrejkw) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(andrejkw),1001(ntfs)
[03:12] <tiagoboldt>  hIRC 2.2 - don't be too amazed. there's more to come - codedb.org 
[03:13] <scheuri> ErenTurkay: well...was just an option...:)
[03:13] <Bladesonfire> scheuri: Just copy/paste the first line, please
[03:13] <tiagoboldt> ~ups
[03:13] <tubbie> can rhythmbox handle more than 10 thousands of mp3?
[03:13] <YogSothoth> Hi
[03:13] <scheuri> uid=1000(stefan) gid=1000(stefan) Gruppen=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(s
[03:13] <Bladesonfire> scheuri: thanks... and odd... I'm getting an extra "groups=1000(bladesonfire)" after the gid
[03:14] <tiagoboldt>  Channel Topic (#ubuntu )  Official Ubuntu support channel | Dapper RC released! http://tinyurl.com/ehqdg Information and help in #ubuntu+1 | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ | Join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter | Help pages: wiki.ubuntu.com help.ubuntu.com
[03:14] <andrejkw> Me too
[03:15] <ErenTurkay> scheuri: :)) financial support of ubuntu is very strong, which company or people supports ubuntu, do you know ?
[03:15] <kermitX_> mark.
[03:15] <xcool> who is chinese?
[03:15] <scheuri> ErenTurkay: I recommend their homepage for answer to such questions
[03:15] <orbin> tubbie: never had that many to try.  why? is it crashing?
[03:15] <soundray> tanek: how are you getting on?
[03:15] <tubbie> orbin, just wondering..
[03:15] <orbin> !zh
[03:15] <ubotu> For support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-cn
[03:16] <ErenTurkay> scheuri: ok thanks
[03:16] <xcool> the chinese can't spell in it ! I am new leaner!
[03:16] <martin> ubuntu-mx
[03:16] <tanek> soundray: had a minor breakthrough
[03:17] <martin> #ubuntu-mx
[03:17] <ErenTurkay> scheuri: OK
[03:17] <kermitX_> tubbie: have, i think, 5-6k in rhythmbox at present. no problems so far.
[03:17] <tanek> soundray: got it to turn up in /dev now as sda
[03:17] <soundray> tanek: that sounds like the girl who got a bit pregnant
[03:17] <soundray> tanek: how is it partitioned?
[03:18] <tanek> soundray: might be, she lost her baby when she tried to mount it tho :D
[03:18] <p_mash> hi all :-)
[03:18] <tanek> soundray: just 1 big fat32 partition
[03:18] <p_mash> just got Breezzy working .. its lovely lovely lovely ....
[03:18] <soundray> tanek: is there a partition table, or did you format the "raw" disk?
[03:18] <martin> #ubuntu-es
[03:19] <p_mash> quick question.. seems that its best not to use root at all in the setup etc.. so what is the passsword set to at install ?
[03:19] <orbin> p_mash: just got breezy?  where have you been? :)
[03:19] <orbin> ubotu: tell p_mash about root
[03:19] <tanek> soundray: i tried to mount it and the terminal froze and after like 20ish seconds it failed
[03:20] <tanek> soundray: it was paritioned when i got it
[03:21] <scheuri> ubotu: tell scheuri about root
[03:21] <heanol> are there any problems with anything specific when running amd64 versions?
[03:22] <Ng> heanol: the only problems you'll have are with things that only exist for the x86 version, such as java browser plugins, flash, multimedia codecs and so on
[03:22] <scheuri> jbroome: thanks...;)...just wanted to know if that works..;)
[03:22] <scheuri> jbroome: and it does actually...;)
[03:22] <jbroome> scheuri: you can usually do !tell foo about bar
[03:22] <heanol> Ng, ok.. trying to decide if i should try out amd64 for the first time.. or just stick with x86 as i've always done
[03:22] <YogSothoth>  I just install Deskbar 2.14.1.1 for GNOME and the shortcut <Alt><f3> does not work. In fact I tried other shortcuts and none works to get focus on the deskbar. Why?
[03:22] <soundray> tanek: what did you use as the mount command?
[03:23] <scheuri> jbroome: I just wondered why there was no response by ubotu...now I know
[03:23] <ompaul> !test
[03:23] <tanek> soundray: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt
[03:23] <ubotu> Failed.
[03:24] <Ng> heanol: it depends what the system is for really. on a desktop I'm not convinced you gain anything by going to the amd64 version - most things are waiting for disk/user data, not the cpu
[03:24] <jacquesmerde> in the words of jazzy jeff and the fresh prince, "tick, tick, tick, tick, boom!"
[03:24] <heanol> yeah. desktop
[03:26] <heanol> what's "alternate" ?
[03:26] <heanol> (compared to desktop or server)
[03:26] <radio> hey, how do I install the stuff I need to write simple C programs?
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> !b-e
[03:26] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[03:26] <radio> I did sudo apt-get install gcc, but when I tried to compile a hello world prog it gave me "Couldn't find stdio.h"
[03:27] <radio> ah, k
[03:27] <scheuri> radio: you probably want kdevelop
[03:27] <radio> thanks
[03:27] <radio> nah, I dont want that :P
[03:27] <K|NgGh0sT> What do I change in the sources.list to upgrade to drapper?
[03:27] <gnomefreak> radio: sudo apt-get install anjuta build-essential
[03:27] <scheuri> well, that is an IDE...:)
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> !dapper
[03:27] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> !update
[03:27] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dr_Willis
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> Hmm..
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[03:27] <ubotu> hmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[03:27] <soundray> tanek: have you tried 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt'?
[03:27] <deus__> what does RC means?
[03:27] <scheuri> Dr_Willis: NO, it is still not released...:)
[03:27] <scheuri> deus__: Release Candidate
[03:28] <gnomefreak> deus__: release canidate
[03:28] <deus__> ah
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> scheuri:  i judt downloaded the RC last night. Im not too worried bout the release date. :P
[03:28] <tanek> soundray: yes, does the same thing
[03:28] <tanek> soundray: well, my time to go for lunch. cya later
[03:28] <scheuri> Dr_Willis: well, it just looked like that...:)
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> My file server is still running like.. the OLD ubuntu. :)  warty? i think
[03:30] <K|NgGh0sT> argh I'm not liking Ubuntu already
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> K|NgGh0sT:  sorry to hear that - i find it great
[03:31] <skip> does anybody here own a Tecra A6 or A7?
[03:31] <K|NgGh0sT> I like plain old debian
[03:31] <orbin> K|NgGh0sT: what's irking you?
[03:31] <K|NgGh0sT> But for some reason it will not install on my laptop, probally due to sata drivers
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> I dont see any real reason for me to perfer debian over ubuntu.
[03:31] <scheuri> K|NgGh0sT: I know what you mean...choice is everything...;)
[03:31] <K|NgGh0sT> Not being able just edit sources.list and get everything I want
[03:32] <K|NgGh0sT> having to type sudo everything sucks
[03:32] <j2daosh> anyone have a fix for that stupid easyubuntu script?
[03:32] <gnomefreak> K|NgGh0sT: sudo -i
[03:32] <K|NgGh0sT> Is there anyway to get superuser access?
[03:32] <spikeb> debian is going the route of not allowing root login as well, i'd imagine
[03:32] <spikeb> root already can't log into X
[03:32] <K|NgGh0sT> aha
[03:32] <scheuri> K|NgGh0sT: sure...sudo passwd root and then you may log in as root
[03:32] <spikeb> K|NgGh0sT, sudo -
[03:33] <spikeb> er
[03:33] <spikeb> -i, that is
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> sudo - ranting  is a trivial. thing.
[03:33] <Hobbsee> !tell K|NgGh0sT about sudo
[03:33] <K|NgGh0sT> Now, time to get rid of this awefull gnome
[03:33] <j2daosh> it botched my system and not i cant even do a apt-get install -f
[03:33] <j2daosh> now*
[03:33] <j2daosh> so where /what do i need to do to rebuild my system index?
[03:33] <orbin> K|NgGh0sT: easily changed....don't ditch a whole distro becase of something as trivial as those two things. :)
[03:33] <basvg> does anyone know around what time Dapper will be released tomorrow? :-)
[03:33] <gnomefreak> j2daosh: get rid of it and do it yourself
[03:34] <K|NgGh0sT> orbin, Its all too windowish to me
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> basvg:  when its done. :P
[03:34] <j2daosh> get rid of my system index?
[03:34] <K|NgGh0sT> I dunno, something just does not seem right
[03:34] <gnomefreak> basvg: nope
[03:34] <basvg> Dr_Willis: hehe, good answer :p
[03:34] <K|NgGh0sT> probally will be better once I get into KDE
[03:34] <basvg> Dr_Willis: eagerly awaiting it => this box needs a new OS :-)
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> gnome is too windowish but kde is better? :)
[03:34] <orbin> K|NgGh0sT: whatever floats your boat :)
[03:34] <gnomefreak> j2daosh: get rid of easyubuntu seeing as that messed up things?
[03:34] <kermitX_> kde just as 'window-ish' as gnome is...
[03:35] <K|NgGh0sT> kermitX_, , I meant Ubuntu as a whole
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> Real Men use the Console. 0_o
[03:35] <j2daosh> i dont know where it installed to... and it doesn't have a "backout" option... it screwed up my sound card, my apt, and my xorg is acting funny
[03:35] <tuxtheslacker> !tell tuxtheslacker about ati
[03:35] <kermitX_> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ not quite so window-ish ;)
[03:35] <orbin> K|NgGh0sT: as in...all my hardware works? :)
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> orbin:  i find my hardware works better under ubuntu
[03:36] <K|NgGh0sT> all my hardware always works in deb
[03:36] <tuxtheslacker> can someone send me the tell command for ATi drivers?
[03:36] <K|NgGh0sT> ahahahaha
[03:36] <K|NgGh0sT> ati and linux
[03:36] <gnomefreak> j2daosh: ask in #easyubuntu how to fix or getrid of it they would know
[03:36] <K|NgGh0sT> Have fun :D
[03:36] <tuxtheslacker> K|NgGh0sT, yeah... sucks for me.
[03:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tuxtheslacker -about ati
[03:36] <h3sp4wn> K|NgGh0sT: just run debian sid (its not that unstable unless you are stupid) - plus it has a later version of kde
[03:36] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, thanks!
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> I though you just said debian dident like your SATA
[03:36] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:36] <K|NgGh0sT> h3sp4wn, my other box runs Etch
[03:37] <K|NgGh0sT> Dr_Willis, That's the first issue I ever came across really
[03:37] <K|NgGh0sT> so I'm giving Ubuntu a try
[03:37] <K|NgGh0sT> KDE 3.5 is nice
[03:37] <kamil> siemka jest tu ktos z polski ?
[03:37] <soundray> !pl
[03:37] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[03:38] <Ng> as fascinating as peoples opinions of distros and drivers are, this is a support channel - if you're not asking or answering a question you're probably supposed to be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:38] <scheuri> thanks, Ng
[03:38] <kamil> #ubuntu-pl
[03:38] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, care to help me out with an apt-get problem?
[03:38] <tuxtheslacker> http://pastebin.com/748964
[03:39] <j2daosh> if i upgrade to dapper right now will that fix my crap? id assume a major kernel upgrade would have to write most of the system software... or are the changes minor enough that most of the system doesn't get touched?
[03:40] <tuxtheslacker> I'm having major problems with apt-get right now.
[03:40] <spikeb> just about everything gets touched j2daosh
[03:40] <tuxtheslacker> it's telling me it can't stat reps....
[03:40] <j2daosh> me too... and its because of easyubuntu
[03:40] <Ng> tuxtheslacker: what happens if you do a sudo apt-get update?
[03:40] <scheuri> tuxtheslacker: do a aptitude update first
[03:40] <tuxtheslacker> scheuri, where is that?
[03:40] <scheuri> tuxtheslacker: on the console
[03:40] <thomas> Hi
[03:40] <j2daosh> sudo apt-get install -f
[03:40] <kermitX_> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:40] <assasukasse> hello everyone
[03:40] <j2daosh> or sudo apt-get update... either one
[03:41] <scheuri> tuxtheslacker: on the console a "sudo aptitude update"
[03:41] <tuxtheslacker> just did update :-)
[03:41] <assasukasse> when will dapper will be released?
[03:41] <p_mash> so I need to use Synaptic to install applications.. however can't see php4 ?? is it available ?
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> when its done
[03:41] <j2daosh> i thought it was already releasED....
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:41] <Ng> assasukasse: tomorrow
[03:41] <scheuri> j2daosh: no it isnt...
[03:41] <j2daosh> HMM..
[03:41] <j2daosh> thought it was supposed to be released in like april...
[03:41] <orbin> p_mash: enabled universe repository?
[03:41] <tuxtheslacker> oh okay, schweet.
[03:41] <kermitX_> p_mash: php4 is in universe.
[03:41] <tuxtheslacker> Thanks guys!
[03:42] <spikeb> j2daosh, got delayed
[03:42] <thomas> How do I set up Enviorment variables in Ubuntu? I'm using 5.10
[03:42] <j2daosh> ahh
[03:42] <assasukasse> Ng i ordered some cd from shipit last week, why they said they already shipped to shipping company?
[03:42] <Ng> j2daosh: it was delayed to ensure it was good enough to be supported for 5 years (the server parts at least)
[03:42] <tuxtheslacker> what does sudo apt-get update do?
[03:42] <j2daosh> $var=value
[03:42] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: updates your sources.list file
[03:42] <thomas> I tried a bash script but that does now work
[03:42] <Ng> assasukasse: possibly a mistake. the final images have only just been made (assuming no further showstopping bugs are found)
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> thomas:  you normally export variables from your .bashrc or .bash_profile  - depends on exactly What you are doing.
[03:42] <orbin> tuxtheslacker: man apt-get
[03:42] <j2daosh> then echo $var to see what it became set to
[03:42] <Ng> tuxtheslacker: downloads the package listings from all of your configured repositories
[03:42] <p_mash> orbin, dont understand... universe ?
[03:42] <kermitX_> Ng: but the only thing they've changed lately is icons and openoffice. ;)
[03:42] <scheuri> ubotu: tell tuxtheslacker about update
[03:43] <assasukasse> Ng thanks, what time i can download it then? tomorrow morning?
[03:43] <Ng> kermitX_: that's good, isn't it? we wouldn't want lots of churn right before the release
[03:43] <soundray> thomas: what do you want to set, and where&when do you want them to be available?
[03:43] <thomas> Dr_Willis, I tried that but it does not work.
[03:43] <Ng> assasukasse: there is no time, it'll just be sometime tomorrow if no problems show up
[03:43] <gnomefreak> assasukasse: there is no time for release
[03:43] <orbin> p_mash: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:43] <j2daosh> so when is it supposed to come out then?
[03:43] <kermitX_> Ng: why not? usual release is immediately upon gnome release...
[03:43] <francisco> hello, how can I set gdm as default again?
[03:43] <Bladesonfire> Hooray, sudo privileges have returned =P
[03:44] <soundray> francisco: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm'
[03:44] <brandon_> so is that it then? with today's updates, do i have the full stable dapper?
[03:44] <francisco> thanks soundray!
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> thomas:  then you are doing it wrong. :P  you may want to read that 'Advanced bash guide' thats online.. export foo=bar  in the .bashrc is the normal way.
[03:44] <assasukasse> Ng and gnomefreak thanks..may i ask a question about why i should choose ubuntu over kubuntu?
[03:44] <tuxtheslacker> Thanks everyone1
[03:44] <Ng> kermitX_: dapper is a little different because it's a long term support release
[03:44] <Ng> assasukasse: personal preference
[03:44] <gnomefreak> kermitX_: cant release with the gnome release due to the delay and the LTS
[03:44] <thomas> I put the script at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14906.  Could you tell me what is wrong?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> !abs
[03:45] <ubotu> abs is short for advanced bash scripting. it can be found in synaptic under abs or at http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[03:45] <kermitX_> might as well wait for the next gnome point release. was due a couple days ago.
[03:45] <andrejkw> I am using Gnome. Today I boot and find out that all fonts are big, only text box, button, and application fonts. I tried checking the sizes in Font but they seem fine.
[03:45] <assasukasse> Ng one last question, i come from debian sid, i want to try ubuntu, and want to set up a webserver with it, which one should i choose?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> ^^^ that might help thomas
[03:45] <andrejkw> How do I fix it?
[03:45] <soundray> thomas: run '. scriptname' to activate the exports for the current shell.
[03:45] <orbin> andrejkw: is it possible your screen res. changed?
[03:45] <ichdasich> hi.
[03:46] <andrejkw> orbin: no
[03:46] <soundray> thomas: paste the script contents into $HOME/.bashrc to make the exports available from the next login.
[03:46] <peng_> who can tell me where to find the resouce in Germany
[03:46] <orbin> brandon_: you need to run the update manager when they relase stable...it's not out yet
[03:46] <thomas> soundray, Thanks
[03:46] <soundray> peng_: what resource? #ubuntu-de ?
[03:46] <ichdasich> im new to ubuntu and want to setup ubuntu on a machine without an internetconnection. how can i use and install the languagespecific packages?
[03:46] <peng_> \\soundary yes
[03:46] <peng_> yes
[03:47] <thomas> I was under the impression that it was ./scriptname
[03:47] <peng_> i am in Germany
[03:47] <andrejkw> anyone, please?
[03:47] <brandon_> orbin: all of the updates today were artwork and crap like that, plus it's scheduled for tomorrow, so i figured...
[03:47] <peng_> i mean the resouce list ,where i can get skype
[03:47] <soundray> thomas: that requires that you make your script executable with chmod 755 scriptname or similar.
[03:47] <gnomefreak> thomas: did you chmod x+a script
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> thomas:  you are only seeing part of the big picture. as to how scripts work.
[03:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell thomas -about abs
[03:48] <gnomefreak> that really is a good guide
[03:48] <orbin> ichdasich: download them on a computer with a 'ne tconnection and then copy them over and install them
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> that ABS guide is a MUST read. :P and save it and reread it a week later.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> then reread it again every month.
[03:48] <ichdasich> orbin: download from where?
[03:48] <thomas> I have a copy
[03:49] <orbin> ichdasich: the repositories...
[03:49] <scheuri> !tell abs
[03:49] <scheuri> !tell about abs
[03:49] <scheuri> arrrrrr$
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> I got a copy of the ABS guide html version on my PlayStationPortable :P
[03:49] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell scheuri about abs
[03:49] <ichdasich> orbin: how could i do this, if id dont have a running ubuntu box?
[03:49] <orbin> ubotu: tell scheuri about yourself
[03:49] <scheuri> thanks
[03:49] <thomas> Just a sec guys.  Let me try it out.
[03:50] <kermitX_> new look to front page of http://www.ubuntu.com/
[03:50] <scheuri> gnomefreak: orbin thanks
[03:50] <siccness> Yeah, looks nice kermitX_.
[03:50] <orbin> ichdasich: you don't need really need one.  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[03:50] <kermitX_> siccness: cept for the missing 6.06 dl links. ;)
[03:50] <ichdasich> orbin: ah, thx
[03:51] <siccness> So true :)
[03:51] <orbin> ichdasich: all apt-get does is grab the pacjkages form there anyway
[03:51] <orbin> ichdasich: d/load the ones you need then install with: sudo dpkg -i <package>
[03:52] <queuetue> Hi.  If I type ifconfig, I see a very odd ip showing for eth0 - 169.254.190.111 ... The ip is *actually* 192.168.2.12 - as evidenced by the fact that I can ssh into it and ping it just fine.  Can ifconfig report the wrong address?
[03:52] <orbin> after you copy them over that is
[03:52] <andrejkw> I am using Gnome. Today I boot and find out that all fonts are big, only text box, button, and application fonts. I tried checking the sizes in Font but they seem fine.
[03:52] <ichdasich> orbin: told u that i dont have a ubuntubox here ;-)
[03:53] <bit_doidao> hi there! those anyony know were to download the ubuntu photo in a resolution for printing purposes? We are organizing an event, and planning to make some graphic materials! Thank You!
[03:53] <ichdasich> orbin: but thx ;-)
[03:54] <orbin> ichdasich: huh?  [1]  grab the packages from that url using any computer w/ a net connection and a web browser. [2]  copy the deb files onto a cd [3]  insert the cd into your friends connection-less computer [4]  copy the files onto said computer [5]  dpkg -i the deb files
[03:55] <ichdasich> orbin: ah, thougt the sudocommand ment the way to download em.
[03:55] <l_r> hello
[03:55] <l_r> ubuntu 6.06 - stable is out!!!!
[03:55] <orbin> ichdasich: no, that's how he'll install them on his computer
[03:55] <Goshawk> l_r: where is the announce?
[03:55] <ichdasich> yes, thx.
[03:56] <Goshawk> l_r: where did you get that information?
[03:56] <l_r> Goshawk, it's top secret. the fact has not been announced yet..
[03:56] <Goshawk> l_r: torret to download from?
[03:57] <Goshawk> torrent
[03:57] <Bladesonfire> andrejkw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=913730&postcount=4
[03:57] <l_r> i can't give it, sorry. i am only allowed to say "people, it is out!"
[03:57] <l_r> :)
[03:58] <Bladesonfire> andrejkw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=914325&postcount=5 <-- possibly that one, too
[03:58] <cef> l_r: any idea how long till it hits mirrors, etc?
[03:58] <l_r> cef, some hours :)
[03:58] <zenlinuxNH> l_r: Now there's a challenge if I ever heard one. :)
[03:58] <l_r> heh
[03:59] <babo> [user@achilles ~] $ su - root
[03:59] <babo> su: incorrect password
[03:59] <Goshawk> l_r: who are you to say" people i know that it's out"?
[03:59] <babo> does anyone have an explanation for the above behaviour ?
[03:59] <l_r> i am one of the powers :)
[04:00] <bit_doidao> babo, ubuntu, by default, have the root account with no password
[04:00] <Ng> !tell babo about root
[04:00] <_Crane> G o o D M o r n i n g
[04:01] <l_r> i am root :P
[04:01] <bit_doidao> you can set a password for root, and use it, or even use the sudo for run commands as root :)
[04:01] <Ng> l_r: this is a support channel, if you're not going to contribute something useful or ask a question, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:01] <l_r> Ng, pardon
[04:01] <l_r> :)
[04:02] <andrejkw> Bladesonfire: nope
[04:02] <andrejkw> Bladesonfire: if I lower DPI everything else becoems screwed u
[04:02] <andrejkw> Bladesonfire: and it used to be fine on this DPI
[04:03] <Bladesonfire> andrejkw: what did you change before the fonts went huge?
[04:03] <Fator_Dee> can I ask for help in here in upgrading from breezy to dapper?
[04:03] <andrejkw> Bladesonfire: hmm, I installed KDE, but it's removed now
[04:04] <QPAD|warlock> this is starting to annoy me, Im trying to run a script (auto install) and it cannot install because for -some- reason it wont create the dirs by automatic
[04:04] <QPAD|warlock> Installing files for cPanel frontend..
[04:04] <QPAD|warlock> tar: /usr/local/cpanel/base/frontend/x: Cannot chdir: No such file or directory
[04:04] <QPAD|warlock> An example
[04:04] <QPAD|warlock> Why doesnt it create it by itself ?
[04:04] <andrejkw> Are you running it as sudo?
[04:04] <Bladesonfire> andrejkw: So what's big and what isn't?
[04:04] <QPAD|warlock> no Anderson
[04:04] <QPAD|warlock> no andrejkw *
[04:05] <QPAD|warlock> doesnt matter, doesnt work with sudo eaither
[04:05] <QPAD|warlock> Creating command line save directory..
[04:05] <QPAD|warlock> mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/cpanel/gameserv_saved/': No such file or directory
[04:05] <andrejkw> Bladesonfire: Well textbox fonts are bigger than usual, also the fonts on the buttons, menu fonts, and menu labels, also the Gnome Menu has bigger fonts.
[04:05] <andrejkw> Everything else is fine, desktop fonts are fine, it justr seems to be that every GTK app has bigger fonts.
[04:06] <Bladesonfire> QPAD|warlock: try running mkdir with the -p option
[04:06] <onkarshinde> @now utc
[04:06] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: May 31 2006, 14:06:27
[04:06] <zerby> hi chris_
[04:06] <noodle> for once in my linux life i am actually quite happy with fonts.. well the way dapper renders it
[04:07] <QPAD|warlock> Bladesonfire, huh ?
[04:07] <andrejkw> So... can anyone help me solve this annoying problem?
[04:08] <Bladesonfire> andrejkw: sorry, I'm a Kubuntu user =/ ... forums are probably your best bet
[04:08] <onkarshinde> andrejkw: what is problem?
[04:08] <Bladesonfire> QPAD|warlock: sudo mkdir -p /var/cpanel/gameserv_saved/
[04:08] <p_mash> ok am missing the point here probably.. how do I chmod +777 /var/www ?? (local Dev machine) .. tried sudo chmod etc and not work
[04:09] <kahuuna> dapper drake release party! :D
[04:09] <andrejkw> Here's a screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png
[04:09] <onkarshinde> p_mash: why do you need 777? Any specific purpose?
[04:10] <andrejkw> Most of the fonts are extremly big.
[04:10] <p_mash> yes .. need to copy a bunch of files in there (this is my local dev machine) with scripts etc...
[04:10] <QPAD|warlock> Bladesonfire, so im supposed to make all the folders that's didnt get created?
[04:10] <QPAD|warlock> I dont even know all of the folders.
[04:10] <KenSentMe> Does anyone here play Second Life on Ubuntu?
[04:10] <QPAD|warlock> Shouldn't these be automatically created?
[04:10] <p_mash> onkarshinde, some shell scripts and php (migrating stuff from suse!
[04:11] <noodle> andrejkw: have you tried 9?
[04:11] <Bladesonfire> QPAD|warlock: parent folders are only created with the -p option
[04:11] <fholmes> Hello, can anyone help me with Bind on Breezy Badger?  Only my last A record is resolving, none of the other A records in my list are resolving.
[04:11] <andrejkw> Yes, it makes no difference
[04:11] <anstei> p_mash: sudo chmod 0777 /var/www
[04:11] <Bladesonfire> QPAD|warlock: (if they don't already exist)
[04:12] <onkarshinde> p_mash: remove +. Only 777 is needed.
[04:12] <andrejkw> Please... anyone? This is driving me nuts :'(
[04:13] <p_mash> onkarshinde, cool that worked ...
[04:13] <tuxtheslacker> It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. Run 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html#xv! see 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. try -vo x11
[04:13] <QPAD|warlock> Bladesonfire, what im saying is: I ran a script, and it's cPanel, and it's supposed to make its own dirs and add the files in the dirs it created, and not that im supposed to make the dirs manually and THEN run the install script.
[04:13] <tuxtheslacker> what is that talking about in mplayer?
[04:14] <Bladesonfire> Man, I lost my sudo rights again ... damn this machine
[04:14] <p_mash> onkarshinde, whats the best way to tavkle next problem.. what I do is create a "user" for each web project so they appear at http://localhost/~foo (50+ to migrate from suse)..  ??
[04:14] <Bladesonfire> QPAD|warlock: I would ask the script creators about how the script works
[04:15] <QPAD|warlock> that's not the thing, this happends to all scripts i try to auto install
[04:15] <QPAD|warlock> by sudo ./install or something
[04:15] <tuxtheslacker> can someone help me out with an mplayer config?
[04:15] <tuxtheslacker> mine is apparently botched.
[04:15] <Bladesonfire> QPAD|warlock: Hmmmmm, don't know what the problem could be, then
[04:16] <p_mash> so I cant login as root ;-( ...
[04:16] <andrejkw> QPAD|warlock: sed -e 's/wget/wget -p/g' script.sh
[04:16] <Swad> I am looking for someone who has a fairly good grasp on linux routing who might be able to help me setup the proper route for a host-only VMware config on Ubuntu.
[04:17] <tuxtheslacker> It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. Run 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html#xv! see 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. try -vo x11
[04:17] <andrejkw> oops
[04:17] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, do you have any ideas?
[04:17] <andrejkw> i meant
[04:17] <andrejkw> QPAD|warlock: sed -e 's/mkdir/mkdir -p/g' script.sh
[04:18] <andrejkw> So, can someone help me with my font problem? :'(
[04:19] <tuxtheslacker> can someone help me out with that error on mplayer?
[04:19] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: no not really sure what you are trying to do
[04:19] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, I'm trying to play a video in gmplayer.
[04:19] <tuxtheslacker> and it spits out this error: It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. Run 'xvinfo' to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html#xv! see 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv) video out drivers. try -vo x11
[04:20] <tuxtheslacker> and it runs the video in a VERY choppy manner.
[04:20] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: did you install all the dvd/flash/or whatever your trying to play codecs?
[04:20] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tuxtheslacker -about restricted
[04:20] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, I installed codecs.
[04:20] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: that site tells you what to do about choppiness
[04:20] <renatofilho> hi guys, i need a url for apt with gstreamer-10 for ubuntu breeze. can someone pass me a link?
[04:20] <gnomefreak> renatofilho: its not in breezy
[04:21] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, I've choppy video, not audio.
[04:21] <gnomefreak> renatofilho: you can try to get it from packages.ubuntu.com but im not real sure its a good idea
[04:21] <tuxtheslacker> unless it's breaking to keep sync with audio?
[04:21] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: i know and its there
[04:21] <Stork> what's the best html/css/php editor you know of?
[04:21] <QPAD|warlock> andrejkw, what is that ?
[04:21] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, yeah, that's what i'm reading :-D
[04:21] <tuxtheslacker> stocksy, gedit.
[04:22] <Stork> gedit sucks
[04:22] <tuxtheslacker> Stork, I like it...
[04:22] <Bladesonfire> Stork: Quanta ;)
[04:22] <gnomefreak> Stork: nvu or bluefish
[04:22] <Stork> nvu?
[04:22] <gnomefreak> nvu is like dreamweaver in a sense
[04:22] <QPAD|warlock> andrejkw, The script im trying to run is "install" (sudo ./install) - how do i fix so it can create dirs etc?
[04:23] <tuxtheslacker> can someone tell me how big the w32codecs are?
[04:24] <kermitX_> tuxtheslacker: about 10mb.
[04:26] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, I installed the win32 codecs.
[04:26] <tuxtheslacker> Gnomefreak: it appears that the fix they talk about is for xine.
[04:27] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: xine engine is normally better than gstreamer IMHO
[04:27] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: iirc w32codecs are in mplayer by default
[04:27] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, will I still use mplayer?
[04:27] <andrejkw> QPAD|warlock: sed -e 's/mkdir/mkdir -p/g' ./install
[04:28] <Goshawk> is there a way to export all the mails of evolution?
[04:28] <spikeb> no they are not in mplayer by default
[04:28] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, do i need to do anything to point them to mplayer?
[04:28] <andrejkw> QPAD|warlock: and then run it again
[04:28] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: i dont think mplayer has an xine engine
[04:29] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, totem-xine doesn't break the the playback....
[04:29] <l> can someone tell me why i am etting this error? l@irregularity:~$ cd /var/log/mpd
[04:29] <l> bash: cd: /var/log/mpd: Permission denied
[04:30] <QPAD|warlock> huh, how can you nick "l"? :)
[04:30] <gnomefreak> l: use sudo
[04:30] <Goshawk> l: sudo cd /var/log/mpd
[04:30] <andrejkw> QPAD|warlock: did it work?
[04:31] <QPAD|warlock> yeah, kinda..
[04:31] <QPAD|warlock> ould you like to add a monitoring script to /etc/crontab to ensure cPGSD is running ? (y/n) y
[04:31] <QPAD|warlock> chmod: cannot access `/var/cpanel/cpgs.pem': No such file or directory
[04:31] <QPAD|warlock> :E
[04:31] <andrejkw> are you using sudo?
[04:31] <Goshawk> how to export everything in evolution?
[04:31] <QPAD|warlock> yes
[04:32] <QPAD|warlock> This is all bugged up, still missing lots of catalogs..
[04:32] <QPAD|warlock> what does "mkdir -p /dir/dir" do ? Does it create that dir, or ?
[04:32] <andrejkw> if 1st dir is missing, it creates it
[04:32] <andrejkw> otherwise it would fail
[04:33] <QPAD|warlock> um
[04:33] <Celestar> I heard that ubuntu works on T1?
[04:33] <QPAD|warlock> well, i think it works now
[04:33] <QPAD|warlock> one second
[04:33] <trappist> -p also won't throw an error if the directory you're creating already exists
[04:33] <QPAD|warlock> ah ok
[04:33] <trappist> all this is in the man page
[04:34] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, thanks!
[04:34] <tuxtheslacker> now, how do I get the totem plugin installed again?
[04:34] <mendred> hi has anyone succeeded in installing rox-desktop
[04:35] <curuptura> hi channel
[04:35] <curuptura> iam havin a problem
[04:35] <Stork> have a cookie.
[04:35] <aluno> .
[04:35] <curuptura> i want to capture videos on kino
[04:35] <curuptura> i ahev that philips lifeview card
[04:35] <QPAD|warlock> andrejkw, so if i want to create a dir i do mkdir -p /var/bla ?
[04:35] <curuptura> i dont know how to install it
[04:35] <QPAD|warlock> because im still getting errors..
[04:35] <blakcheez> how do I use RAR for Linux to open a .rar file?
[04:35] <QPAD|warlock> pissing me off, (cannot create dir blab la )
[04:36] <mwe> blakcheez: use unrar
[04:36] <NoUse> !tell blakcheez about rar
[04:38] <zerby> hi chris_
[04:38] <tuxtheslacker> how do I get firefox to use the totem-xine plugin instead of the mplayer one?
[04:39] <onkarshinde> tuxtheslacker: totem-xine plugin is not good enough. At least in breezy.
[04:39] <onkarshinde> tuxtheslacker: you can remove mozilla-mplayer if you want to use totem-xine plugin
[04:39] <blakcheez> mwe: which one do I download for Ubuntu?
[04:39] <andrejkw> So, what about my font problem?\
[04:40] <tuxtheslacker> onkarshinde,  this thing appears to run a little bit better than the mozilla plugin, in that it will run this video without making it REALLY choppy.
[04:41] <blakcheez> so which unrar do I download?
[04:42] <jameyg> Does anyone know the CMS being used on ubuntu.com?
[04:42] <andrejkw> Everything else is fine, desktop fonts are fine, it justr seems to be that every GTK app has bigger fonts.
[04:42] <sdrac8> is there a way to run two programs simultaneously in a terminal so that the output from one is the input to the other?
[04:42] <andrejkw> Here's a screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png
[04:43] <onkarshinde> jameyg: I guess it is MoinWiki
[04:43] <onkarshinde> not sure though
[04:43] <tuxtheslacker> okay, I uninstall totem-xine-firefox-plugin a while ago, and now it looks like it requires the totem plugin.
[04:43] <blakcheez> how do I open .rar programs on Ubuntu?
[04:44] <chavo> andrejkw, did you install kde?
[04:44] <assasukasse> what is the difference between desktop and server edition?
[04:44] <Linuturk_NB> server edition installs without a gui
[04:44] <chavo> assasukasse, the server doesn't install X or any desktop
[04:44] <Linuturk_NB> chavo, they use the same kernel though?
[04:45] <kermitX_> actual server iso will have a server-optimized kernel
[04:45] <Linuturk_NB> ah, figured
[04:45] <assasukasse> kermitX_ what does it means
[04:45] <andrejkw> chavo: yes
[04:45] <Linuturk_NB> it means it runs better as a server
[04:45] <Ng> sdrac8: prog1 | prog2
[04:45] <andrejkw> chavo: but removed it now
[04:45] <onkarshinde> Linuturk_NB: Same kernel but tweaked differently for server use
[04:45] <Ng> sdrac8: they'r enot run exactly simultaneously though
[04:45] <shannon> will the fglrx driver work with "VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)" (from lspci)/
[04:45] <alnr> how can i see what files were installed by a package, is there a manifest file per package somehwere
[04:45] <andrejkw> chavo: so how can I fix it?
[04:45] <rysiek|pl> hi there, guys
[04:46] <assasukasse> uhm...i need to install a webserver that is also a desktop, should i go for server then?
[04:46] <jameyg> onkarshinde, ahh I found references to MoinWiki in some of the files
[04:46] <Linuturk_NB> would you recommend XFCE for a server gui? if so, what is the easiest way to install that, along with controls for a LAMP server?
[04:46] <jameyg> onkarshinde, sorry MoinMoin
[04:46] <tuxtheslacker> is v4l loaded by default in breezy btw?
[04:46] <chavo> andrejkw, ok open up your ~/.bashrc and remove this line -> export GTK2_RC_FILES=$HOME/.gtkrc-2.0
[04:46] <_Crane> Wow crazy traffic here
[04:46] <sdrac8> Ng: but does that go both ways?
[04:46] <visik7> Linuturk_NB:  server ? gui? in the same sentence ?
[04:47] <rysiek|pl> anybody knows, what should I add to ~/.gtkrc-2.0 so to change the tooltip-text color globally? (I have a white font set as a system font, and tootlips have this light background, so I can actually see... yeah, you know ;) )
[04:47] <Ng> sdrac8: no
[04:47] <onkarshinde> Linuturk_NB: Easiest way to install xfce is 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'
[04:47] <Ng> sdrac8: the output of prog1 would be "piped" into the input of prog2
[04:47] <chavo> Linuturk_NB, just apt-get install xubuntu-desktop for xfce, it'll install x and everythig esle you need
[04:47] <distanceisdeath> XMMS won't play any music because there is something wrong with the sound card, how do i fix this?
[04:48] <tuxtheslacker> anyone know if v4l is loaded into by default in breezy badger?
[04:48] <sdrac8> Ng: that's what I thought, so is there a way to make it go both directions?
[04:48] <tuxtheslacker> if not, that would explain my video camera crashing.
[04:48] <Ng> sdrac8: not as far as I know
[04:48] <rysiek|pl> distanceisdeath: what's the error msg?
[04:48] <visik7> tuxtheslacker: I haven't breezy no more
[04:48] <tuxtheslacker> anyone know?
[04:48] <distanceisdeath> rysiekpl: Lemme find it,
[04:49] <tuxtheslacker> visik7, how woudl you check to see if it's laoded now?
[04:49] <visik7> btw breezy is 2 steps behind dapper
[04:49] <visik7> lsmod
[04:49] <tuxtheslacker> okay, is there a way to search through the mods?
[04:50] <distanceisdeath> rysiekpl: It's no longer giving me any error messages.  But all it does is skip through the whole playlist.
[04:50] <visik7> tuxtheslacker: loaded or all the available ?
[04:50] <tuxtheslacker> viski7 both?
[04:50] <visik7> tuxtheslacker: grep
[04:50] <Ng> sdrac8: why would you want to do that anyway?
[04:50] <visik7> :)
[04:50] <visik7> lsmod |grep <pattern>
[04:50] <tuxtheslacker> visik7, I need to see if v4l is available to load, and I need to see if it is already or not.
[04:50] <visik7> and
[04:50] <Some_Person> Hi
[04:50] <visik7> modprobe -l |grep <pattern>
[04:51] <blakcheez> need help setting up a rar program
[04:51] <Bladesonfire> How come xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop can't be installed together?
[04:51] <rysiek|pl> distanceisdeath: well, that means it can't locate the files on this playlist. either those files are not on your disk anymore, or they are on a different location, or the permissions aren't set correctly
[04:51] <andrejkw> chavo: that didn't fix it
[04:51] <kermitX_> bladesonfire: they can be.
[04:51] <Ng> !tell blakcheez about rar
[04:51] <tuxtheslacker> okay, it's not there... how would I look to see if the module is available?
[04:51] <Some_Person> Is there an MSN Messenger for Ubuntu?
[04:51] <andrejkw> chavo: my fonts are still big :'(
[04:51] <andrejkw> Some_person: aMSN
[04:51] <Ng> Some_Person: gaim or amsn would be your best bets I suspect
[04:51] <visik7> tuxtheslacker: modprobe -l |grep <pattern>
[04:51] <distanceisdeath> Okay.
[04:51] <distanceisdeath> Lemme try a new song.
[04:51] <sdrac8> Ng: I have a model train network that relies on a program to control the hardware which takes information from the decision software. In turn, the hardware software tells the decision stuff where the train is.
[04:51] <kermitX_> bladesonfire: my most recent install was off a (gn)ubuntu rc alt install cd, then i added 'xubuntu-desktop' with no conflicts.
[04:52] <Bladesonfire> kermitX_: when I tried "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop", I got errors, but individual, I could install them
[04:52] <rysiek|pl> distanceisdeath: try: alsaplay <path_to_song> -> this plays a sound file from within console
[04:52] <Ng> sdrac8: that sounds like they should really be communicating with IPC, so unix sockets or fifos or something like that
[04:52] <distanceisdeath> Wait, I got the error message.
[04:52] <rysiek|pl> distanceisdeath: this way you can check if the user you are running has the correct perms
[04:52] <rysiek|pl> distanceisdeath: which is?..
[04:52] <kermitX_> bladesonfire: do it in aptitude and see what the conflicts are..
[04:52] <Bladesonfire> kermitX_: did you also install ubuntu-desktop on that install?
[04:52] <Bladesonfire> kermitX_: will do
[04:53] <kermitX_> bladesonfire: the ubuntu-desktop package was the default install for the cd i used, then i added xubuntu to it.
[04:53] <tuxtheslacker> will insmod load the module permanently?
[04:53] <distanceisdeath> Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly.  You have the correct output plugin selected.  No other program is blocking the soundcard.
[04:53] <tuxtheslacker> viski ^^
[04:53] <tuxtheslacker> visik7, ^^
[04:54] <visik7> no
[04:54] <tuxtheslacker> visik7, how do I load the module permanently?
[04:54] <blakcheez> i'm still have trouble with locales
[04:54] <Some_Person> How can I use MSN Messenger in Ubuntu?
[04:54] <visik7> hotplug should load the module automatically when the card is detected
[04:54] <mwe> Some_Person: gaim
[04:54] <blakcheez> "Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:54] <blakcheez>    locales
[04:54] <Some_Person> I mean a full-featured MSN-Only client
[04:54] <Bladesonfire> kermitX_: I didn't thinkt he alt cd had a *-desktop on it, but I must have been thinking of the server ... anyway, i already installed ubuntu-, and now I can install xubuntu- just fine... so... nvm ;)
[04:54] <tuxtheslacker> how do I load modules permanetly?
[04:54] <Ng> Some_Person: install amsn
[04:55] <Ng> Some_Person: it should be in synaptic
[04:55] <blakcheez> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code
[04:55] <visik7> Some_Person: amsn
[04:55] <tuxtheslacker> Some_Person, kopete has video too.
[04:55] <mwe> Some_Person: or use wine
[04:55] <kermitX_> bladesonfire: "alternate" cd is the old text-mode installer.
[04:55] <Some_Person> WINE can't run MSN Messenger
[04:55] <Booo> how stable is dapper now?
[04:55] <mwe> Some_Person: it doesn't work with the latest msn messenger though
[04:55] <Some_Person> wich does it work with?
[04:55] <mwe> Some_Person: it can. but not the latest
[04:55] <tuxtheslacker> can someone tell me the command to add a module permanently if insmod won't do it.
[04:55] <kermitX_> Booo: better be pretty darn stable by now.. ;)
[04:55] <yohoho> is this site working?  http://scottbucking.ca
[04:55] <Bladesonfire> kermitX_: ic =D
[04:56] <rysiek|pl> distanceisdeath: well then, do what the message tells you: right click on XMMS -> Preferences, find Output Plugins
[04:56] <mwe> Some_Person: I don't remember. you can't expect all windows software to work with linux
[04:56] <Some_Person> true
[04:56] <Booo> has anyone tried dapper on a powerbook G4
[04:56] <kermitX_> Booo: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[04:56] <rysiek|pl> distanceisdeath: (I don't quite remember where that is exactly, but it's not hidden. really)
[04:56] <MisterN> hi
[04:56] <rysiek|pl> distanceisdeath: and check, what Output Plugin you have selected
[04:56] <distanceisdeath> Thank you, sir.
[04:56] <Ng> Some_Person: try amsn before faffing about with wine
[04:56] <distanceisdeath> ALSA wasn't set.
[04:57] <mwe> amsn sucks bad IMHO
[04:57] <distanceisdeath> I thought I had set it all in the beginning process.
[04:57] <mwe> I'd use gaim instead
[04:57] <rysiek|pl> distanceisdeath: no prob. the output plugin should me alsa, as you can guess ;)
[04:57] <rysiek|pl> distanceisdeath: yeah, once tried to locate an "error" like this for 2 days...
[04:57] <Ng> mwe: gaim misses a lot of "features" for msn
[04:57] <tuxtheslacker> will modprobe load a module permanently?
[04:58] <rysiek|pl> distanceisdeath: "And I am *sure* I set the ALSA plugin..."
[04:58] <bit_doidao> HI! Does Anyone knows where to take the ubuntu photo in resolution for printing?
[04:58] <mwe> Ng: not anything I need. what are you thinking about?
[04:58] <tuxtheslacker> anyone?
[04:58] <harobed_> Dapper stable is out ?
[04:58] <Booo> kermitX_: thanks
[04:58] <Ng> mwe: at least webcam, but there are lots of "features" in later MSN clients, like games and stuff. he did say he wanted one that supported lots of official features
[04:58] <Ng> harobed_: tomorrow
[04:59] <mwe> Ng: I think gaim2 has full webcam support, no?
[04:59] <Some_Person> I downloaded aMSN, but it needs TCL libraries
[04:59] <Ng> mwe: probably, but it's not in ubuntu either way
[04:59] <QPAD|warlock> How can i check if i run php as root or not ?
[05:00] <mwe> Ng: it's been a while since I tried amsn I must admit. does it support all those features?
[05:00] <Ng> Some_Person: if you enable the universe repository in synaptic you can install it with that
[05:00] <rysiek|pl> anybody knows, what should I add to ~/.gtkrc-2.0 so to change the tooltip-text color globally? (I have a white font set as a system font, and tootlips have this light background, so I can actually see... yeah, you know ;) )
[05:00] <Ng> mwe: it at least does webcam stuff
[05:00] <tuxtheslacker> can anyone hear me? or is just that no one knows the answer?
[05:00] <Ng> !tell Some_Person about universe
[05:00] <mwe> Ng: there are .debs for gaim2
[05:00] <tuxtheslacker> Ng, how can I update the version of gaim to gaim2?
[05:00] <Ng> tuxtheslacker: no idea
[05:00] <distanceisdeath> Thanks rysiekpl.
[05:01] <Ng> is gaim2 even out yet? I thought it was still in beta
[05:01] <Some_Person> Where do I get the .deb for TCL libraries?
[05:01] <chainlynx> go to the sourceforge gaim site
[05:01] <mwe> Ng: it is
[05:01] <Zuikaz> tuxtheslacker:  gaim 2 is still in BETA
[05:01] <mwe> Ng: it works well though
[05:01] <Zuikaz> beta 3
[05:01] <chainlynx> and check the ubuntu wiki
[05:01] <Vic_Astro> tuxtheslacker, by hand. get the src, compile it and you're done
[05:01] <Bladesonfire> kermitX_: "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop" >> xubuntu-system-tools/ubuntu-system-tools and evince-gtk/evince have some issues
[05:01] <mwe> !gaim2
[05:01] <ubotu> Packages for gaim 2.0.0 beta 3 are available - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-April/072721.html
[05:01] <Ng> Some_Person: ubotu just messaged you a link to how to enable the universe repository. once you do that you can install amsn with synaptic and it will install the tcl libs for you
[05:02] <tuxtheslacker> Vic_Astro, that won't get rid of ununtu install version.
[05:02] <QPAD|warlock> How can i check if i run php as root or not ?
[05:02] <Ng> QPAD|warlock: as in the php that runs as part of a webserver/
[05:02] <kermitX_> bladesonfire: use the 'gnome' or 'ubuntu' versions of the conflicting packages.
[05:02] <Vic_Astro> tuxtheslacker, "sudo apt-get remove gaim"  will
[05:02] <QPAD|warlock> Ng, and www-data runs apache, correct ?
[05:03] <Ng> QPAD|warlock: yep. php will run as whatever user calls it, so if its apache, it'll be www-data
[05:03] <Bladesonfire> kermitX_: okay
[05:03] <dodek> hi
[05:03] <mrDaniel> the release for is dapper is the first june (01.06), this is tomottow, but i cant find any download link on the site http://www.ubuntu.com/download/. will there be tomorrow a downloadlink for dapper?
[05:03] <mrDaniel> the release for is dapper is the first june (01.06), this is tomottow, but i cant find any download link on the site http://www.ubuntu.com/download/. will there be tomorrow a downloadlink for dapper?
[05:03] <Ng> mrDaniel: the website will be updated after the release
[05:04] <Ng> mrDaniel: and please don't repeat your questions :)
[05:04] <Bladesonfire> tri-wm goodness... almost feels like Zelda
[05:04] <kermitX_> bladesonfire: to go xubuntu-desktop package in aptitude, you should see "either/or" depends on those two conflicting packages. use evince and gnome-system-tools.
[05:04] <rysiek|pl> distanceisdeath: no prob
[05:04] <dodek> hmm, so dapper release is tomorrow?
[05:04] <QPAD|warlock> thanks Ng
[05:04] <Ng> dodek: yes
[05:05] <redir> anyone got the syntax for find (recursively) by date in their head?
[05:05] <dodek> is it fixed time?
[05:05] <Ng> no
[05:05] <kermitX_> tomorrow is today in au, nz, jp...
[05:05] <mrDaniel> thats right
[05:06] <mrDaniel> and in 12 hours it is also in amerika tomorrow
[05:06] <Ng> fine
[05:06] <Ng> check again in 24 hours
[05:06] <Ng> if "tomorrow" is too complex ;)
[05:06] <dodek> im not from america
[05:06] <Bladesonfire> kermitX_: aptitude is pretty slick =D
[05:07] <disinterested_pe> yeah the word tomorrow is a real complex idea when ur talking about time stamps
[05:07] <mrDaniel> yes, thats right
[05:07] <DBO> is that heres tomorrow or theres today?
[05:08] <gdb> It's not going to be "tomorrow" anywhere in America in 12 hours.
[05:08] <queuetue> Is anyone using netatalk to serve files to OSX machines?  The client tries to connect, asks for password, and then spins forever.  I'd like to know how to get some logging from afpd...
[05:08] <disinterested_pe> depends what day ur calander says today
[05:08] <borgolibero> What about NTFS support in Ubuntu?
[05:08] <dodek> in my country there is +1000 timezone.
[05:08] <UserName14>  ubuntus versions of dovecot (email server) are really pissing me off its not working how its meant to work can someone recommend the easist pop\imap\ server to setup for ubuntu
[05:08] <DBO> !ntfs
[05:08] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[05:09] <gdb> !winfstab
[05:09] <ubotu> in fstab it should look **like** this:: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0
[05:09] <shannon> humph
[05:09] <Ng> UserName14: would you like to describe your problem or just rant some more? ;)
[05:09] <g-nome> is it possible to use a "mouse gesture" for nautilus/konqueror?
[05:09] <dodek> ill back here tomorrow.
[05:09] <shannon> I installed fglrx and it says I'm satill using mesa -- how'd that happen?
[05:09] <UserName14> Ng, I have given up i am looking for an alternate server to try
[05:10] <Kyral_FreeBSD> UserName14: HowTo Forge has an excellent Howto
[05:10] <borgolibero> ubotu - thanks a lot - but what about the old project for use NTFS support? More advanced implementation in Live like Knoppix?
[05:10] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, borgolibero
[05:10] <Ng> UserName14: oh well. I'm running it on a server that has breezy installed for pop3/pop3s/imap/imaps and it's been working fine for months
[05:10] <Kyral_FreeBSD> UserName14: Look for "Ubuntu 5.04, the Perfect Setup"
[05:10] <UserName14> Kyral, I believe that how to is for a diff version
[05:10] <NoUse> borgolibero ubotu is a bot :-)
[05:10] <g-nome> shannon: you have a problem many users have -try the forum for "mesa issue"
[05:10] <Kyral_FreeBSD> UserName14: Its for tried and true Postfix :P
[05:10] <Vic_Astro> Don't thank ubotu, it is rude and won't respond back
[05:10] <rlaager> Is there a package that provides a startup script for iptables rules?
[05:10] <Kyral_FreeBSD> !botsnack
[05:10] <ubotu> :)
[05:10] <Kyral_FreeBSD> !iptables
[05:10] <UserName14> Kyral, I got postfix working, just not dovecot
[05:11] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ubotu tell rlaager about iptables
[05:11] <g-nome> Kyral_FreeBSD: i suggest you to use freebsd :-) Can you tell me, is it REALLY that fast & stable (compared to others)?
[05:11] <borgolibero> Thanks . see you again.
[05:11] <Kyral_FreeBSD> g-nome: I'm just playing around with it right now :P
[05:11] <g-nome> and?
[05:11] <UserName14> Kyral, What version do you think is best for the server? 504 510 or 606
[05:11] <mwe> rlaager: just add the appropiate iptables command to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[05:12] <g-nome> so far so good?
[05:12] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Ports is what Portage wants to be when it grows up
[05:12] <Kyral_FreeBSD> UserName14: huh?
[05:12] <Some_Person> Ubuntu is so much better than Wincrap XP
[05:12] <Kyral_FreeBSD> version of what?
[05:12] <Some_Person> It's too bad my dad has Linuxphoebia.
[05:13] <mrDaniel> ubuntu better than win'crap' xp, i think that, too
[05:13] <g-nome> why?
[05:13] <g-nome> Some_Person: why?
[05:13] <Janek> Hi ;)
[05:13] <rlaager> Kyral_FreeBSD: The relevant part of that message seems to be "iptables-initscript", but I see no such package when I try to install it.
[05:13] <g-nome> it can be cured :_)
[05:13] <Janek> i have problem with my Irda
[05:14] <g-nome> anyway, is it possible to use  "mouse gestures" for nautilus/konqueror?
[05:14] <SeMb0y> hello i just updated my nvidia driver and more packages and than i restart xserver -and i get this error ->>>> This X module the version 1.0-8765 -> please make sure that the kernel module and all nvidia driver components have the same version
[05:14] <Janek> someone know how i can
[05:14] <mrDaniel> i can just hope that much more 'avarage users' try this great linux-distribution
[05:14] <Kyral_FreeBSD> rlaager: I dunno I always used the howto :P
[05:14] <Some_Person> It's easy to use, less vulnerable than Wincrap, and has more features than eye candy.
[05:14] <KenSentMe> Does anyone here play Second Life on Ubuntu?
[05:14] <tuxtheslacker> hello, can someone please tell me what the module for v4l is called?
[05:14] <mwe> rlaager: just add the appropiate iptables command to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[05:15] <rlaager> KenSentMe: I didn't play it, but I had to use it for a class recently.
[05:15] <DBO> KenSentMe, I tried to but the alpha client is crap and it wont work in WINE
[05:15] <mwe> rlaager: iptables-restore actually
[05:15] <KenSentMe> DBO: did you manage it to run?
[05:15] <Some_Person> I'm glad I ordered those ShipIt CDs in spite of my dad.
[05:15] <gilianima> What is the command to convert a file (image, text file...) which comes form MacOS, I forgot it... ?
[05:15] <Dio_Cane> hail to all
[05:15] <KenSentMe> DBO: i get lots of errors just starting ./secondlife
[05:15] <mwe> rlaager: load you rules and use iptables-save. then put iptables-restore in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[05:16] <DBO> KenSentMe, the alpha client?  yeah... it was horribly incomplete though...
[05:16] <KenSentMe> DBO: on the second life forum people mention that it runs without problems
[05:16] <mwe> rlaager: that will "start" iptables at boot time
[05:16] <DBO> KenSentMe, yes, they are all the people it works for... =P
[05:17] <KenSentMe> DBO: lol
[05:17] <rlaager> mwe: Noted. I'm hoping to minimize the editing of existing files, as I'm trying to create local packages to do all the dirty work. I guess that'll be the easiest way.
[05:17] <KenSentMe> DBO: and on Cedega it only works with Cedega 3.3 or something
[05:18] <Guest19660> when will Dapper Drake be released?
[05:18] <rlaager> KenSentMe: It worked fine for me on an nvidia card, but not on my last machine (with Fedora Core 4) that had an ATI card.
[05:18] <Frogzoo> !dapper
[05:18] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[05:18] <KenSentMe> rlaager: running wine or the linux client?
[05:18] <mwe> rlaager: I think it is. or install firestarter. It comes with some really cool default rules and an init script
[05:18] <rlaager> KenSentMe: linux client
[05:18] <_Crane> LOL @ newsflash
[05:19] <mwe> rlaager: or ipkungfu maybe
[05:19] <Harold_P> News flasg?
[05:19] <KenSentMe> rlaager: and ubuntu? Breezy or Dapper?
[05:19] <Harold_P> flash*
[05:19] <mwe> rlaager: they are both front ends for iptables
[05:19] <rlaager> KenSentMe: dapper, with the nvidia-glx drivers, obviously
[05:20] <kermitX_> ubotu: it is june 1st id sydney.
[05:20] <ubotu> kermitX_: what are you talking about?
[05:20] <mwe> kermitX_: he's a bot
[05:20] <KenSentMe> rlaager: I might be wrong, but you don't actually have to install the game, just download, unpack and ./secondlife, or am i wrong?
[05:21] <rlaager> KenSentMe: correct... I had to install libdb3 or somesuch.
[05:21] <mwe> I think it's June 1st UTC
[05:21] <mwe> the release date
[05:21] <tuxtheslacker> why exactly does xawtv crash x?
[05:22] <KenSentMe> rlaager: i installed libdb-4.2
[05:22] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: because that and/or X is broken, probably
[05:22] <rlaager> KenSentMe: that sounds right
[05:22] <kermitX_> mwe: i know. ;)
[05:22] <tuxtheslacker> mwe, I'd gues.....
[05:22] <tuxtheslacker> guess*
[05:22] <mwe> :)
[05:22] <tuxtheslacker> :-P smart arse :-D
[05:23] <KenSentMe> rlaager: this is the errors i get:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14913
[05:23] <mwe> brb
[05:23] <tuxtheslacker> kopete has webcam support, correct?
[05:23] <_vnobien> How to create the DVD repos for offline (not have insternet connect) users?
[05:23] <rlaager> tuxtheslacker: I believe so. You might want to drop by #kopete.
[05:25] <rlaager> KenSentMe: In case it's a permission error... I'd blow away (or move away) the SecondLife directory, then unpack a fresh copy and try again. Make sure to unpack it as yourself, not root. Beyond that, I have absolutely no idea. It worked for me and I don't care to mess with it ever again. :)
[05:25] <mrDaniel> is there an site on the wiki that describes how to 'style' ubuntu (i mean transparent windows, ...), can't find anything
[05:26] <Kyral_FreeBSD> True transparacy(sp?) you need XCompMgr
[05:26] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Terminals can pull off Psudotrans
[05:26] <PetrolBomb> ipconfig for ubuntu?
[05:26] <Kyral_FreeBSD> !xcompmgr
[05:26] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kyral_FreeBSD
[05:26] <queuetue> Does anyone use netatalk to get ubuntu and OSX to make sweet love?  The osx box starts to connect and just "beachballs" forever on me...
[05:26] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ipconfig? You mean ifconfig?
[05:26] <kspath_> PetrolBomb: ifconfig?
[05:27] <kspath_> PetrolBomb: man ifconfig;man ip
[05:27] <bit_doidao> queuetue, you can connect to you osx from the ubuntu via samba. You have to enable windows file sharing in mac osx
[05:28] <Tezzer44> hi
[05:28] <DBO> OS X doesnt support NFS?
[05:28] <Tezzer44> how big is ubuntu?
[05:28] <bit_doidao> queuetue, or you can connect from the MAC OSX to ubuntu via samba AND/OR netatalk
[05:28] <kspath_> So sad to see people whose only experience is redmond exsposure.
[05:28] <queuetue> bit_doidao, I'd prefer to use netatalk - no sense supporting windows networking when there ain't any windows here. :)
[05:28] <queuetue> bit_doidao, Yes, I can - if netatalk is working. :)
[05:28] <kspath_> Tezzer44: How big? In what way?
[05:28] <Tezzer44> as in the basic system
[05:28] <tuxtheslacker> yay for working ATi Drivers, that's the first time they've loaded correctly :-D
[05:29] <Harold_P> lol
[05:29] <bit_doidao> queuetue, the windows file sharing option in MAC OSX, in fact, is a samba server =)
[05:29] <kspath_> Tezzer44: Do a basic install and decide.
[05:29] <tuxtheslacker> wow, ubuntu is flipping amazing in comparison to the other distros I've used.
[05:29] <KenSentMe> rlaager: that doesn't solve it. But i wont bother you with it anymore. I got bother the Second Life people now.
[05:29] <queuetue> bit_doidao, Yes, I'm aware of that, and, like I said, I don't want to use it.
[05:29] <matheus> hello
[05:29] <Tezzer44> iwell i have 2 installs but a friend wants to know
[05:29] <kspath_> Tezzer44: Have your friend install it and see.
[05:30] <Tezzer44> well the issue is is it small then xp
[05:30] <bit_doidao> queuetue, i installed netatalk few months ago, in ubuntu 5.10. it worked like a charm
[05:30] <kspath_> Tezzer44: What is xp?
[05:30] <matheus> anyone know about app custom widget on gnome-panel
[05:30] <matheus> ?
[05:30] <Harold_P> hmm
[05:30] <Tezzer44> windows xp
[05:30] <kspath_> Tezzer44: Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:30] <Tezzer44> ok
[05:30] <Harold_P> Quiters.
[05:31] <tmdca> Hello. Can anyone help me? I just installed Ubuntu 5.1 on my laptop, a dell latitude c600 and there was some errors during the installation ("cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0") and now my thuchpad doesent want to work.... Whats wrong?
[05:31] <bit_doidao> queuetue, i had used this tutorial, but is in portuguese: http://www.dicas-l.com.br/dicas-l/20060210.php
[05:32] <matheus> I've lost the trash and volume-control from my gnome-panel, anyone know how to I get it back?
[05:32] <Ng> matheus: right click on the panel and choose "Add to panel" - they are in there
[05:32] <Harold_P> matheus: right click
[05:32] <bit_doidao> matheus, yes... :)
[05:32] <Harold_P> Beat me.
[05:32] <Harold_P> :(
[05:32] <Harold_P> lol
[05:32] <tuxtheslacker> tmdca, sounds like there was a rpoblem with the cpu frequency change.....
[05:32] <tuxtheslacker> that the install does....
[05:32] <matheus> but... this widgets were lost of the list
[05:33] <tuxtheslacker> try reinstalling, if that doens't work, I'd say there's DEFINETLY something unsupported about your hardware.
[05:33] <DBO> tmdca, while Im not sure what your problem is, a whole new version of ubuntu comes out today that fixes a lot of laptop issues, give it a run =)
[05:33] <tuxtheslacker> I'd google search for issues with your specific processor.
[05:33] <tmdca> tuxtheslacker: I did. But it still dosent work...
[05:33] <tmdca> DBO: Shall i install old version?
[05:33] <Skip> Question: the speaker icon in the system tray area is gone - how do I get it back? Sound works.
[05:33] <tuxtheslacker> tmdca, search for issues with your processor.
[05:34] <Ng> Skip: right click on the panel and choose "Add to panel"
[05:34] <tuxtheslacker> have you tried it with any other distributions?
[05:34] <DBO> tmdca, try to install the new version when it comes out in a couple hours =)
[05:34] <matheus> In the list, when I go to "Add to panel", not found the volume-control and trash
[05:34] <Skip> But which app do I add - cannot see it there?
[05:34] <tmdca> tuxtheslacker: Not, yet. Okay, ill do that ^^  Thanks for the help.
[05:34] <Ng> matheus: check you have the gnome-applets package installed
[05:35] <Ng> Skip: there should be a trashcan or wastebasket entry in the list (I'm not sure exactly what it's called)
[05:35] <tuxtheslacker> tmdca, I mean I'd try another distro... you can get rid of a variable if another distro installs.
[05:35] <tuxtheslacker> tmdca, but in the end it's just a band-aid :-P
[05:35] <sanpera> hello does anybody know what part of gnome (which package?) is responsible for automounting of usb drives?
[05:35] <matheus> before, it's were place in the panel... but my system got a crash with gnome-panel...
[05:36] <endless_us> hi guys
[05:36] <matheus> and now... this two widgets have lost.
[05:36] <endless_us> have problem compiling sasc-0.5. make: *** [PLUGINS/src/sc-0.5.3//libvdr-sc.so]  Error 2    Any idea?
[05:36] <tmdca> tuxtheslacker: but.. i like ubuntu. well, with my broadband it will take o couple of hours to download an other dist... so i guess i wait for the new one.
[05:37] <p_mash> am trying to compile an application and I get the following error.. "checking for working makeinfo... missing" .. I searched for makeinfo in Synaptic and its not there .. any directions would be helpful for newbie ...! :-)
[05:37] <ubuntu_> Does anyone know if there is STABLE NTFS RW support for any linux distros yet?
[05:37] <tuxtheslacker> tmdca, I was just saying another distro because it will tell you if it's a probelm in the distro...
[05:38] <adchaves> jose
[05:38] <DBO> ubuntu_, captive NTFS works ok...  there are other projects, but in general NTFS in linux is a write off...
[05:38] <Harold_P> Icons themes are ni ~/.themes
[05:38] <Harold_P> right?
[05:38] <Harold_P> in*
[05:38] <ubuntu_> ok, ill check out captive... hopefully they will support it soon
[05:38] <ubuntu_> ;)
[05:38] <andrejkw> Hewy guys, after installin KDE soemthing is witth my fonts
[05:39] <andrejkw> My fonts in Gnome are really big
[05:39] <DBO> ubuntu_, just remember captive and ubuntu dont play nice
[05:39] <matheus> volume-control is back... :) I reinstall the gnome-applet package
[05:39] <matheus> Ng, thanks!
[05:39] <tmdca> tuxtheslacker: I see. Ill try some other dist. :)
[05:39] <ubuntu_> DBO: really?
[05:40] <ubuntu_> is there a wiki to set it up?
[05:40] <tuxtheslacker> tmdca, :-)
[05:40] <DBO> ubuntu_, they dont play nice, so no...
[05:40] <tuxtheslacker> tmdca, honestly, I'd suggest trying to see if slack would work (it's the most vanilla distro out there in my opinion)
[05:40] <ubuntu_> i seee... ok thanks anyways
[05:41] <aLPHa_LeaK> tuxtheslacker: and its in your nickname? ;)
[05:41] <pericles> I have cupsd listening but I can't configure my printer with GUI'ed application for configuring printers. Any suggestion what to do?
[05:42] <tmdca> tuxtheslacker: Thanks again. I feel so stupid when i ask my boyfriend. ^^
[05:42] <makelele> i am becoming impatient ,when in June  is Dapper expected to be released .would it be better to upgrade or  re-instal
[05:42] <grahal_> just did a dapper upgrade and the suspend and hibernate button disappeared of the logout windows
[05:42] <Harold_P> I'm going to reinstall.
[05:42] <kspath_> !tell makelele about dapper
[05:43] <Harold_P> I don't want any old config files messing up Dapper.
[05:43] <Mic__hael> upgrade is easier, and you have to make a backup anyway if you care about your data
[05:43] <ghost_> hey something very wierd is happening with my upgrade to dapper, i ran  gksudo "update-manager -d" , and it all seemed to progress nicely. pops up the window, i select upgrade and it starts downloading, gets to 62 of 64 and stall. then seems to repeat this process a few times. and finally jumps up with " A problem occured during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry."
[05:43] <Ng> makelele: it should be out within 24 hours
[05:43] <pericles> I have cupsd listening but I can't configure my printer with GUI'ed application for configuring printers. Any suggestion what to do? (it says "can't connect to cups")
[05:43] <tuxtheslacker> tmdca, hahahaha! I'm migrating my gf to linux as well :-D. I hope I can help her, and not make her feel stupid. I hate when I do that, I feel like such a dick. She's a bright girl, and deserves to be treated like it.
[05:43] <kspath_> ghost_: /join #ubuntu+1
[05:43] <ghost_> ah okay
[05:43] <Harold_P> http://127.0.0.1:631/
[05:43] <ghost_> thanks
[05:44] <pericles> thanks, Harold
[05:44] <tuxtheslacker> anyone have any suggestions on how to start a girlfriend on linux? like what basics to get started with?
[05:44] <oskude> hi, has anyone got problems with cvs ? this used to work: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14914 but now i get that error with breezy/dapper and with what ever cvs reposity
[05:45] <kspath_> tuxtheslacker: Let her play with it and answer questions only when asked.
[05:46] <tuxtheslacker> kspath_, yeah, the thing is I'd think she'd want to know where to start playing around?
[05:46] <oskude> or could someone thest if that cvs line here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14914 works for you ? (its not a big project, or do ctrl-c if works:)
[05:46] <kspath_> tuxtheslacker: Do not take the mouse and/or keyboard away when he/she/it is doing something "silly".
[05:46] <Dunnix> I have a question for someone about installing Ubuntu on a laptop
[05:46] <tmdca> tuxtheslacker: Well, i used linux before i meet him. He just know more than me. Oh, great. Girls and linux is a great combo. You dont make her feel stupid if you just are nice and encourage her to seek the answers self. (like i do now...  =D  )
[05:46] <tuxtheslacker> kspath_, hahaha! I have a habit of that....
[05:47] <tuxtheslacker> tmdca, okay, I'll tell her to rtfm once a week :-P j/k.
[05:47] <kalypso> G du son ..
[05:47] <kalypso> hi hi hi
[05:47] <zumbi> hello! i get this error: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed
[05:47] <tuxtheslacker> does ubuntu have a community site like slackware?
[05:47] <tmdca> tuxtheslacker: =D
[05:47] <Harold_P> tuxtheslacker http://ubuntuforums.org/
[05:47] <Dunnix> I have a small widescreen laptop and after install and it seems to boot up fine but KDE doesnt or is black.. I have use of the command line
[05:48] <Harold_P> Dunnis, login and run 'startkde'
[05:48] <Harold_P> or, 'startx'
[05:48] <Harold_P> either one.
[05:49] <tuxtheslacker> Harold_P, startx will start the default X, not only kde.
[05:49] <Harold_P> I know.
[05:49] <DanielX> Hi all
[05:49] <tuxtheslacker> okay, just making sure they did :-)
[05:49] <Harold_P> That's just if he needs to get into a GUI
[05:49] <Dunnix> Harold when i do Startx it says fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0
[05:49] <Harold_P> Do... CTRL + ALT + F7
[05:49] <tuxtheslacker> Dunnix: it's already running.
[05:50] <tubbie> can u play .RMVB files on Ubuntu?
[05:50] <DanielX> I booted on a mac with Dapper Drake - woohoo :)  Now, i'm wondering if there's a way to access the hard disk and recover data?
[05:50] <Dunnix> Black screen when i do start KDE
[05:50] <NoUse> tubbie what kind of files are those?
[05:50] <tubbie> video files
[05:50] <Harold_P> They're video files, I think.
[05:50] <ghost_> kspath_: no one knows or cares on ubuntu+1, the upgrader cant seem to get the last 2 packages, which i thinkcontain most of the release.
[05:50] <Harold_P> https://launchpad.net/products/gnome-icon-theme/+bug/41645
[05:50] <NoUse> tubbie *maybe* with mplayer
[05:50] <Harold_P> Looks like they play in realplayer
[05:50] <stagiaire2> coucou
[05:51] <tuxtheslacker> can someone send me a link to dowlnoad america's army?
[05:51] <fliegenderfrosch> DanielX, try the gnome "Disks" tool to mount the disk
[05:51] <kspath_> tuxtheslacker: www.google.com
[05:51] <Harold_P> http://americasarmy.filefront.com/ tuxtheslacker
[05:51] <tuxtheslacker> Harold_P, thankee.
[05:51] <Dunnix> so i get a black screen when i do start KDE with CTRL ALT f7    maybe a resolution problem with my small screen?
[05:51] <DanielX> fliegenderfrosch : ok, looking.
[05:52] <Harold_P> http://americasarmy.filefront.com/files/Americas_Army/Official_Releases/Full_Install;983
[05:52] <Harold_P> Is the actual link.
[05:52] <tuxtheslacker> Harold_P, ur awesome :-D
[05:52] <DanielX> ok, i'l there and i see my partitions. the main one is partition 5, 55 gig
[05:53] <Dunnix> any ideas?
[05:53] <DanielX> access path says "none". do i change it to something like /mnt/something?
[05:53] <kspath_> Does crackware still exist?
[05:53] <fliegenderfrosch> DanielX, yes
[05:54] <p_mash> where do I get "makeinfo" for compiling from? get this error >> "checking for working makeinfo... missing" when i run ./configure ;-(
[05:54] <djpate> if i did kernel upgrade to 2.6.16.18 where can i find kernel-headers-2.6.16.18 ? Apt get dont seems to know where to get it
[05:56] <NoUse> djpate I think they are called 'linux-headers'
[05:56] <kspath_> tuxtheslacker: Oh yeah, I forgot, crackware is a somewhat common name for slack. Any particular reason you are hanging out in #ubuntu and mentioning another distro whenever you have the time?
[05:58] <p_mash> anyone?
[05:58] <djpate> thanks nouse i'll try that
[05:58] <Dunnix> I think im having a resolution issue with my small laptop screen someone able to help?
[05:58] <PMantis> How is Ubuntu's nVidia RAID and LAN card support (SuperMicro Chassis)
[05:58] <UserName14> can someone help me out im following the perfect ubuntu setup by howtoforget and the last line of page4 has me stumped i dont know what they are talking about here it is
[05:58] <UserName14> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p4
[05:59] <NoUse> p_mash what software are you trying to install?
[05:59] <UserName14> Please go sure to enable Maildir under Management -> Settings -> EMail  in the ISPConfig web interfa
[05:59] <NoUse> !tell Dunnix about fixres
[06:00] <NoUse> UserName14 are you trying to set up your machine as an ISP server?
[06:00] <p_mash> NoUse: gmysqlcc http://gmysqlcc.thepozer.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/EnInstall
[06:00] <UserName14> NoUse, i am trying to have a lamp server with function pop3 and imap
[06:00] <p_mash> looking for a GUI frontend to mysql
[06:00] <Skip> Upgraded to dapper but 3d acceleration went out the window. Using fglrx. Any ideas?
[06:00] <whitesuit> hi, do you guys know if the dapper final is going to be released midnight today or sometime tomorrow?
[06:01] <NoUse> p_mash have you tried phpmyadmin?
[06:01] <p_mash> NoUse:  prefer a gui frontend .. like mysqlfront
[06:01] <francisco> hello, is there a way to control the fan speed in an ibm notebook?
[06:01] <Stork> p_mash, how about mysqlfront
[06:01] <DanielX> fliegenderfrosch, may i speak to you privately?
[06:02] <kspath_> whitesuit: define midnight, midnight where? UTC?
[06:02] <p_mash> Stork: mysqlfront dont run on linux :-(
[06:02] <tuxtheslacker> kspath_, because I'm running ubuntu right now.
[06:02] <NoUse> p_mash phpmyadmin is a GUI
[06:02] <p_mash> NoUse: its a browser interface !
[06:02] <whitesuit> kspath_, gmt
[06:02] <NoUse> p_mash its graphical, and its a user interface, hence GUI
[06:03] <tuxtheslacker> I have 2 debian servers, 1 RHEL4 server, a slew of BSD servers, and a personal slack machine, and this ubuntu laptop :-D.
[06:03] <p_mash> NoUse: well am scrambling for words like a "desktop interface" which is what I'd like !
[06:03] <NoUse> p_mash try install build-essential if you are compiling software
[06:03] <irelandshope> irc://irc.freenode.net/p_mash,isnick hi
[06:04] <KeithWeisshar> when is ubuntu 6.06 coming out?
[06:04] <p_mash> NoUse: done that but "makeinfo" seems to be missing
[06:04] <kspath_> !tell KeithWeisshar about dapper
[06:04] <DBO> KeithWeisshar, very very soon
[06:04] <NoUse> p_mash how did you download the program?
[06:04] <p_mash> NoUse: tarball
[06:04] <andrejkw> Hey guys, after installed KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png
[06:04] <whitesuit> kspath_, do you know what time?
[06:04] <kspath_> whitesuit: What time what?
[06:05] <whitesuit> dapper final is coming
[06:05] <Dunnix> I think what my problem is my vbios is not delivering my correct resolution... im trying to sudo apt-get install 855resolution... but says counldnt find package 855resolution
[06:05] <Booo> 7 hours
[06:05] <KeithWeisshar> ubuntu 6.06 is june 1st at what timezone
[06:05] <bobesponja> hey all
[06:05] <bobesponja> is rosetta open source?
[06:05] <kspath_> whitesuit: Dapper release? Apparently, June 1st.
[06:06] <Lastinus> KeithWeisshar: GMT? :)
[06:06] <NoUse> p_mash did you read the install file?
[06:06] <Skip> Using dapper now
[06:06] <KeithWeisshar> does the dapper cd ship from shipit on june 1st
[06:06] <p_mash> NoUse: yes
[06:06] <whitesuit> thanks..will install it tonight
[06:07] <kspath_> I am always amazed how even "technical" people do not bother with timezones or other important details.
[06:07] <andrejkw> Hey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png
[06:07] <RandolphCarter> kspath_: that's cause techies always use UCT ;)
[06:07] <RandolphCarter> or UNIX time..
[06:07] <nf4> I just reinstalled ubutnu 5.10 just becouse I had a bunch of useless things installed and wanted a fresh install and now useing the FAQ and wiki I cannot for the life of me get dvd's to play I have every thing installed up to the point where I type "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:07] <nf4> " but that comes back with a error 127
[06:07] <SaadN> Hey
[06:07] <KeithWeisshar> will there be any dappa dvd
[06:07] <KeithWeisshar> dapper
[06:07] <NoUse> p_mash looks like their package is hosed, I'd email them
[06:08] <p_mash> NoUse: what do u mean ?
[06:08] <Dunnix> any one know why sudo apt-get install 855resolution says counldnt find package?
[06:08] <kspath_> RandolphCarter: Not, in my experience. They should use it but they often enough do not and fail to list the TZ.
[06:08] <NoUse> p_mash their package doesn't work right, so you should email them
[06:08] <p_mash> NoUse: ok :-( ..
[06:08] <hodak> hi is here any polish who can help me? i installed ubuntu and i have a problem
[06:08] <nf4> is there any other way of installing libdvdcss2?
[06:08] <RandolphCarter> kspath_: this is true :(
[06:09] <andrejkw> Hey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png
[06:09] <andrejkw> hodak: i can speak czech :\ but not polish
[06:09] <revmouse> Dunnix, do you have the universe repository in your /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[06:09] <kspath_> hodak: If you are asking for help with a problem in English why can you not ask about the problem in English?
[06:09] <NoUse> p_mash you've installed the gtk dev libs right?
[06:09] <hodak> because its problem with polish aplication
[06:09] <andrejkw> hodak: join #ubuntu-pl
[06:09] <hodak> kadu if u know whats this :P
[06:09] <hodak> oh thanks
[06:10] <kspath_> hodak: polish chat application?
[06:10] <hodak> yes
[06:10] <revmouse> Dunnix, 855resolution points to 915resolution now anyways :)
[06:10] <kspath_> hodak:  search engine to search for the problem?
[06:10] <Dunnix> ohh ok
[06:10] <felipe__> Dapper will be available tomorrow for download, right?
[06:10] <nf4> is there a speical respitory that I need to use to install livdvdcss2
[06:10] <Seveas> felipe__, yes
[06:10] <andrejkw> Hey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png
[06:10] <Seveas> !tell nf4 about dvd
[06:10] <hodak> i dont know how to tell u this... i am lmao with linux and i cant install it
[06:10] <Seveas> andrejkw, rm ~/.gtkrc
[06:10] <fliegenderfrosch> DanielX, has it worked?
[06:11] <andrejkw> Seveas: alright, let me try, thanks
[06:11] <kspath_> hodak: good luck
[06:11] <andrejkw> Seveas: cannot remove `/home/andrejkw/.gtkrc': No such file or directory
[06:11] <blakcheez> what's gcc and cc and how do I reinstall them or whatever?
[06:11] <hodak> hehe
[06:11] <Seveas> /cs o
[06:11] <chainlynx> felipe, dapper is available for dl today, and all the code freezes have gone into effect
[06:11] <kspath_> blakcheez: apt-cache search gcc
[06:11] <NoUse> blakcheez install build-essential
[06:11] <Dunnix> revmouse   cant fine 915resolution either
[06:12] <Dunnix> revmouse   cant find* 915resolution either
[06:12] <kspath_> blakcheez: NoUse is givving you a good specific method
[06:12] <revmouse> Dunnix, make sure you have the universe repository
[06:12] <b08y> !tell b08y about dvd
[06:12] <andrejkw> Hey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png
[06:12] <felipe__> chainlynx, so there won't be changes from the iso that is going to be available tomorro for download?
[06:12] <RandolphCarter> Dunnix: is i855-crt what you're after?
[06:13] <jmoncayo> !dvd
[06:13] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[06:13] <dmesg> hi
[06:13] <dr_willis> hi
[06:13] <dmesg> how can i put an ftp server on my ubuntu
[06:13] <dr_willis> !ftp
[06:13] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[06:14] <kspath_> dmesg: lift it?
[06:14] <Dunnix> revmouse   cant get into KDE is what the way to get universe repository by command?
[06:14] <blakcheez> can someone help me with locales?
[06:14] <dr_willis> fire up synaptic and install one
[06:14] <kspath_> dmesg: apt-cache search ftp server
[06:14] <dmesg> kspath_ ok
[06:14] <blakcheez> I can't install anything because something is wrong with the locales
[06:14] <dr_willis> dmesg:  BEST TO USE SSH IF YOU CAN
[06:14] <revmouse> Dunnix: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:14] <dr_willis> GRR caps lol
[06:14] <dmesg> dr_willis is better?
[06:14] <andrejkw> Hey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png
[06:14] <revmouse> Dunnix: then remove the #'s in front of the universe repositories
[06:15] <kspath_> dmesg: dr_willis is right about ssh being a better option if you restrict to scp and/or sftp
[06:15] <kspath_> dmesg:  ftp is plain text authentication
[06:15] <titan> If I am in a game, with cedega, and want to get back to the desktop, what keys do I use to do so?
[06:16] <blakcheez> i'm having trouble with locales
[06:16] <blakcheez> !tell me about locales
[06:16] <NoUse> titan you can't close the game?
[06:16] <kspath_> dmesg: most often people use the same passwords for more than one thing ,  therefore things with plaintext authentication should be avoided when possible.
[06:16] <dmesg> kspath_ ok
[06:16] <titan> NoUse, oh I can close the game, I just want to alt-tab to a browser while playing basically.
[06:16] <blakcheez> can someone help me with locales?
[06:16] <andrejkw> Hey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png
[06:16] <revmouse> titan: Play in windowed mode ;)
[06:17] <titan> revmouse, yes I thought about that but won't it drop my framerates some?
[06:17] <ketsugi> Anyone here familiar with getting Gnokii to work with bluetooth?
[06:17] <NoUse> titan oh I don't know
[06:17] <revmouse> titan: It might, depending on how beefy your system is
[06:17] <titan> NoUse, oh ok, well thanks anyhow
[06:17] <kspath_> titan: There is apparently a #cedega
[06:18] <titan> revmouse, it's not all that beefy, only 1G of ram and 256 graphics card and AMD processer, can't remember the speed
[06:18] <titan> kspath, What?
[06:18] <revmouse> titan: it doesn't hurt to try :)
[06:18] <mwe> ketsugi: I don't use it but I figure you should look into configuring bluetooth system wide
[06:18] <ketsugi> Yeah I'm having a problem with pairing
[06:18] <titan> revmouse, very true, I will give it a try.
[06:18] <ketsugi> I'm following this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NokiaEvolutionBluetoothSyncing
[06:18] <marrico> fffff
[06:19] <EmxBA> hi
[06:19] <andrejkw> Hey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png
[06:19] <mwe> ketsugi: did you read the other bluetooth wikis?
[06:19] <mwe> !bluetooth
[06:19] <ubotu> [bluetooth]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[06:19] <ketsugi> hm
[06:19] <titan> kspath, what do you mean? What is #cedega for and how do I use it?
[06:20] <ketsugi> I'll try that, thanks
[06:20] <NoUse> titan /join #cedega
[06:20] <mibo-cz> join #ubuntu-cz
[06:20] <kspath_> titan: #cedega is an irc channel
[06:20] <mwe> ketsugi: maybe they can help
[06:20] <ketsugi> thanks
[06:20] <dr_willis> Cedega also has their homepage and docs. :P
[06:20] <titan> NoUse, oh ya, but I did not think it was really a cedega question, thought iwas more of a general ubuntu commands question.
[06:20] <nf4> so that link that the bot sent me is a respitory?
[06:20] <NoUse> titan well it can't hurt to ask there
[06:20] <nf4> how do I use it
[06:21] <titan> NoUse, very true. Thanks for your help guys.
[06:21] <revmouse> titan, Have fun! :D
[06:21] <EmxBA> NoUse: why not wine
[06:22] <yancheng> anyone here had tried to install Intel vTune in ubuntu? coz vTune seems to be only supported in RPM
[06:22] <NoUse> EmxBA he's running cedgea
[06:22] <revmouse> EmxBA: Wine lacks a lot of API functionality when it comes to hardcore gaming
[06:22] <Harold_P> yancheng, try alien
[06:22] <Dunnix> revmouse: did the uncommenting of the universe lines.. then ran sudo apt-get install 915resolution  told me to run apt-get update  did that now it saying couldnt find 915resolution again :( back to where i was
[06:22] <Harold_P> !tell yancheng about alien
[06:22] <EmxBA> NoUse: OK, I just joinde IRC, so I dunno what's talking about
[06:22] <revmouse> Dunnix, you still have to apt-get update to update your repositories
[06:23] <revmouse> Dunnix, Oh... Hmm...
[06:23] <titan> oh ya, what is the key commands to change between your desktops? Like from desktop 1 to 2
[06:23] <EmxBA> revmouse: wine is better for apps, but cedega rules when it;s about  games
[06:23] <revmouse> EmxBA, Yes, you're correct.
[06:23] <ketsugi> Hm I'm still having a problem, mwe
[06:23] <mwe> ketsugi: :|
[06:23] <ketsugi> Can't pair because I get a passcode failure
[06:23] <EmxBA> revmouse: thanks
[06:23] <titan> wine can be used for games, just takes alot to configure and is buggy alot of times.
[06:23] <Dunnix> revmouse: reboot maybe? lol
[06:23] <yancheng> Harold_p, i had heard about alien
[06:23] <mwe> ketsugi: I'm no bluetooth expert. I just thought I'd mention the wikis
[06:23] <ketsugi> ahh ok
[06:24] <chainlynx> I can't install mplayer, even tho i've enabled the universe repositories... someone help?
[06:24] <EmxBA> titan: that's what I;m talking about
[06:24] <revmouse> Dunnix, Are you running breezy or dapper?
[06:24] <yancheng> but the install shell script provided by intel, all the stuffs are written by assuming u r using RPM linux
[06:24] <NoUse> chainlynx its in multiverse
[06:24] <EmxBA> chainlynx: what;s the problem
[06:24] <NoUse> !tell chainlynx about multiverse
[06:24] <mwe> ketsugi: ask in the room again. provide some details
[06:24] <BitWitty> how does one clear the passwords saved in their keyring?
[06:25] <Dunnix> im using Hoary Hedgehod i believe
[06:25] <revmouse> Dunnix, Oh...
[06:25] <ketsugi> Hi, I'm having problems pairing my laptop with my phone via Bluetooth. I get a passcode authentication failure (on my phone) even though I'm entering the passcode that I configured.
[06:25] <gnomefreak> Dunnix: lsb_release -a will tell you what you are using
[06:26] <RandolphCarter> BitWitty: Install the gnome-keyring-manager program, you can clear/edit your keyring using that
[06:26] <carabin> hello
[06:27] <carabin> qualcuno parla italiano?
[06:27] <Dunnix> revmouse: yea using hoary
[06:27] <revmouse> Dunnix, There is no 855resolution or 915resolution in Hoary that I know of
[06:27] <lwizardl> can I use a network printer in ubuntu? its installed on a xp machine with filesharing setup and i have the printer set to share also
[06:27] <revmouse> Dunnix, Breezy and Dapper have them though
[06:27] <ShastaMaroon> I am trying to connect to a remote machine running cups.  I did Allow From <myLocalIP> in the admin sections and such, but I still can't connect to port 631 on that machine from this one.
[06:27] <Dunnix> revmouse, is it hard to upgrade to breezy?
[06:27] <BitWitty> RandolphCarter, thanks!
[06:28] <mike-e> when configuring xserver-xorg what kind of mouse would typically categorize a usb logitec lazer mouse?
[06:28] <NoUse> ShastaMaroon did you restart cups after making the change?
[06:28] <revmouse> Dunnix, http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy
[06:28] <ShastaMaroon> NoUse yes
[06:29] <gnomefreak> Dunnix: no its not
[06:29] <ShastaMaroon> NoUse I also made sure my firewall was shut off just so it wouldn't get in the way for this
[06:29] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[06:29] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[06:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Dunnix -about upgrade
[06:29] <NoUse> ShastaMaroon can you ssh to the machine or some other kind of connection?
[06:29] <gnomefreak> Dunnix: use the link in your pm but only upgrade to breezy for now please
[06:30] <revmouse> gnomefreak, what is the link for my future reference
[06:30] <ShastaMaroon> NoUse yes.  Using VNC I can connect to localhost:631 on the server...but nobody else can connect to 192.168.1.3:631 (the server's IP)
[06:30] <revmouse> Dunnix, sorry about the bad information
[06:30] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[06:30] <ubotu> I guess upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[06:30] <gnomefreak> but you can only safe;y upgrade 1 release at a time
[06:31] <NoUse> ShastaMaroon can you pastebin the Allow lines you have in your cupsd.conf
[06:31] <ShastaMaroon> !tell ShastaMaroon about pastebin
[06:32] <buzzed> how do i update firefox?
[06:32] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[06:32] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:32] <gnomefreak> buzzed: ^^^
[06:32] <gnomefreak> brb restart x
[06:32] <chainlynx> yeah that wiki update firefox page is great
[06:32] <chainlynx> works like a charm
[06:32] <buzzed> thx
[06:32] <Mange> when will dapper be available as final version? can't seem to find the date.
[06:32] <nf4> I am still getting error 127 when trying to install css
[06:33] <NoUse> Mange June 1
[06:33] <nf4> I got this to work three times befor I dont know what the problem is this time
[06:33] <vdepizzol> anybody here is wiki user of wiki.ubuntu.com?
[06:33] <ShastaMaroon> NoUse pasted under my nick
[06:34] <vdepizzol> In this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto , the item ComoGrabarIso (Brasilian Portugees) is not portuguese, but spanish ;)
[06:34] <NoUse> ShastaMaroon you realized that # comments out the line?
[06:34] <ShastaMaroon> NoUse yes
[06:34] <ShastaMaroon> NoUse I added a lot of extra lines...what I did is closer to the bottom
[06:35] <NoUse> ShastaMaroon you don't have a <Location> section
[06:35] <ShastaMaroon> <Location /> ?
[06:35] <NoUse> ShastaMaroon you need to add the Allow lines inside the <Location> tags near the top
[06:35] <serchan> I need reliable 3D graphic benchamrt (no glxgears)
[06:35] <NoUse> ShastaMaroon yeah
[06:35] <ShastaMaroon> oh
[06:36] <ShastaMaroon> one sec...
[06:37] <EmxBA> have you finished?
[06:37] <ShastaMaroon> NoUse still no luck.  Under <Location /> I added Allow From 192.168.1.5 (machine I'm trying to connect from..still nothing.  Won't connect to anything on port 631
[06:38] <yancheng> may i noe is there any profiling tool for linux to measure the performance of certain code portion? just like what intel vTune does?
[06:38] <NoUse> ShastaMaroon then I'm out of ideas
[06:38] <ShastaMaroon> NoUse me too.
[06:38] <ShastaMaroon> NoUse thanks anyway
[06:38] <NoUse> ShastaMaroon were you following the wiki page?
[06:38] <EmxBA> maybe port 631 is used
[06:39] <ShastaMaroon> NoUse no, I installed cups and used the web interface to add some printers and then added those Allow From lines...didnt know there was a wiki.  let me check that out.
[06:39] <ShastaMaroon> !tell ShastaMaroon about cups
[06:39] <NoUse> ShastaMaroon search the wiki for network printing, they have guides
[06:39] <twopeak> is there a way to open the file browser as root without going through the terminal?
[06:39] <EmxBA> there is a cups browser configuration app
[06:40] <blue-frog> does anyone know how to create an .ifo file from a .vob file, pls?
[06:40] <NoUse> EmxBA he is trying to do network printing, which requires editing cupsd.conf
[06:40] <serchan> hey is there some complet package where additional stuff like skype flash vlc etc is ?
[06:40] <EmxBA> try samba
[06:40] <NoUse> !teall serchan about easyubuntu
[06:40] <ubotu> NoUse: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:41] <NoUse> !easyubuntu
[06:41] <ubotu> I guess easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[06:41] <wogi> Save me. Evolution is hurting me :(
[06:41] <NoUse> EmxBA using cups directly is easier
[06:41] <EmxBA> wogi: why >D
[06:41] <EmxBA> D
[06:41] <tubbie> !java
[06:41] <tubbie> ??
[06:41] <tubbie> whereis the bot?
[06:41] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:41] <wogi> EmxBA: heh because it's not allowing me to connect to the Global Address List
[06:41] <tubbie> !java
[06:41] <EmxBA> NoUse: the best thing is to edit cups.conf mannualy
[06:42] <wogi> EmxBA: It looks like the problem I'm having could have been a bug from 2.0.2.. Except the version in ubuntu looks much higher :/
[06:42] <NoUse> EmxBA thats what I'm telling him to do
[06:42] <ScurveyFrog> I'm getting an error when trying to remove cman with apt:
[06:42] <ScurveyFrog> FATAL: Module cman not found.
[06:42] <ScurveyFrog>  Warning unable to load cman kernel moduleFATAL: Module dlm not found.
[06:42] <EmxBA> wogi: oh, OK
[06:42] <wogi> EmxBA: I dunno really how to try to patch it..
[06:42] <ScurveyFrog> how can I fix this?
[06:42] <tucoz> Hi, when I updated recently, I lost 3d acceleration. It looks like the fglrx-kernel did not get updated to the latest fglrx-version.
[06:42] <wogi> EmxBA: Or even if I should try to..
[06:42] <EmxBA> wogi: i have dialup, and evolution is OK
[06:43] <EmxBA> but i use dapper :D
[06:43] <wogi> EmxBA: Ooh..
[06:43] <tucoz> is this a known issue, or am I the only one?
[06:43] <wogi> EmxBA: Can I do some sort of dist-upgrade to get there easily?
[06:43] <EmxBA> wogi: you mean to update only evolution
[06:43] <s|k> how long does a ban last on freenode?
[06:44] <ScurveyFrog> does anyone know how to fix a problem where apt gets hung up on one package and is unable to install or uninstall any others?
[06:44] <wogi> EmxBA: Er.. Well, whichever is easier.. I would like Evolution to work, but if upgrading to dapper is the easiest way for that..? Sorry, I'm sort of a nooblet here.
[06:44] <EmxBA> s|k: very much :d
[06:44] <s|k> ScurveyFrog: ScurveyFrog a broken package?
[06:44] <EmxBA> wogi: no, you don't need to upgrade everyhing, just evolution
[06:44] <NoUse> ScurveyFrog try 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[06:44] <EmxBA> to the version which is used on dapper
[06:44] <wogi> EmxBA: Ah so I can run dapper pkgs on breezy..
[06:45] <wogi> EmxBA: Can you point me to some instructions for that? <3
[06:45] <EmxBA> well, yes
[06:45] <paul_> Anyone got some advice on how to get ipod to work with sound applicatons that support it?
[06:45] <EmxBA> wogi: private me.
[06:45] <ScurveyFrog> NoUse: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:45] <wogi> zomg cybors
[06:45] <Dunnix> lol how do you pronounce hoary? :)
[06:45] <NoUse> ScurveyFrog what package is it hung up on?
[06:45] <Spec> whorey
[06:45] <ScurveyFrog> NoUse: cman
[06:45] <Dunnix> lol
[06:46] <EmxBA> hooray :D
[06:46] <apokryphos> whore-ree
[06:46] <SurfnKid> um
[06:46] <Spec> whore-ray?
[06:46] <EmxBA> who-i-ree
[06:46] <SurfnKid> i couldnt get my ATI card to lead correctly
[06:46] <SurfnKid> Help :(
[06:46] <gantchev> hi
[06:46] <apokryphos> nah, no ray
[06:46] <NoUse> ScurveyFrog try just removing cman
[06:46] <Spec> you have no say; you've been shot :p
[06:46] <EmxBA> there is radeontool app
[06:46] <apokryphos> it was merely a flesh wound
[06:46] <Dunnix> ive been sayin it hooray
[06:47] <apokryphos> Dunnix: you've been saying it wrong ;-)
[06:47] <SurfnKid> EmxBA radeontool?
[06:47] <tubbie> I have some special keys on my wireless keybaord and I want to use them. but I dunno what to enter in gconf-editor. how do I find out what codes these special keyshave?
[06:47] <Dunnix> i know i feel like im suck a tool
[06:47] <tubbie> keys have*
[06:47] <ScurveyFrog> NoUse: that's what I was trying to do originally, and it gives me that same error
[06:47] <Dunnix> such*
[06:47] <EmxBA> SurfnKid: yeah
[06:48] <ShastaMaroon> NoUse works now :-D
[06:48] <Shaezsche> will i get the same battery life running ubuntu as i do in windows xp?
[06:49] <EmxBA> Shaezsche, depending on what you do
[06:49] <EmxBA> which apps are you running
[06:49] <Shaezsche> lets assume i run the same apps i would be running in windows xp
[06:49] <SurfnKid> EmxBA do you have a link or something
[06:49] <NoUse> ScurveyFrog try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure cman && sudo apt-get remove cman'
[06:49] <NoUse> ScurveyFrog oh ok
[06:49] <NoUse> ScurveyFrog what did you do?
[06:50] <andrejkw> yay!!
[06:50] <EmxBA> SurfnKid: that;s annutility to control ATI Radeon backlight functions on laptops.
[06:50] <andrejkw> poppowonni pizza!!
[06:50] <EmxBA> *that's
[06:50] <ScurveyFrog> NoUse:  cman is broken or not fully installed
[06:50] <Shaezsche> ??
[06:50] <ScurveyFrog> NoUse: what do you mean?
[06:50] <NoUse> ScurveyFrog nevermind sorry
[06:50] <SurfnKid> but thats backlight, I want the ATI driver to load up and do my graphics rendering
[06:50] <EmxBA> SurfnKid: try http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/source/radeontool
[06:51] <baseman> i'm having an issue with DHCP on my Orinoco card on Dapper RC.  Can anyone give me a hand?
[06:51] <EmxBA> you mean 3D
[06:51] <Shaezsche> so battery life will be the same?
[06:51] <EmxBA> wogi: go to private chatting
[06:51] <EmxBA> Shaezsche, it depends :d
[06:51] <gnomefreak> baseman: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[06:52] <Shaezsche> depends on what
[06:52] <Shaezsche> if i use the same apps i would be using in windows while using ubuntu?
[06:52] <JulienH> Hi all
[06:52] <SurfnKid> Yea 3D
[06:52] <EmxBA> i gotta go
[06:52] <tuxtheslacker> what are some quick to install and fun games?
[06:53] <Shaezsche> can ubuntu still be installed on a usb HD?
[06:53] <revmouse> tuxtheslacker, frozen-bubble, chromium, neverball
[06:53] <kspath_> !research
[06:53] <ubotu> kspath_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:53] <JulienH> I'm installing Ubuntu with a RAID5 config (3 IDE disks)
[06:53] <tuxtheslacker> revmouse, what is neverball?
[06:54] <revmouse> tuxtheslacker: its a game where there's this ball, and you gotta maneuver a platform to roll the ball around to collect coins and reach a goal
[06:54] <JulienH> Arriving to the "Installing GRUB boot loader" step, the progress bar is stuck to 50%... why ?
[06:54] <serchan> ow to make WIn-key operate?
[06:54] <kspath_> !tell NthDegree about away
[06:54] <tuxtheslacker> revmouse: so it's marble madness :-P
[06:55] <SurfnKid> can anyone guide me to do the ATI 9600 install on my laptop pleeeeeease
[06:55] <tuxtheslacker> revmouse, are there any others? 3d perferably, simply because I want to check out what I'm able to do with this new driver.
[06:55] <serchan> surfnKid: google ubuntu Ati install
[06:56] <jenda> Does anyone know how to connect an IRC channel to a Jabber room?
[06:56] <tucoz> SurfnKid, or type /msg ubotu ATI
[06:56] <kspath_> jenda: /join #jabber
[06:57] <dizy> hi.... my mouse back and forward button acts like scroll up and down in firefox.. how can i fix this?
[06:57] <bllell> hi anyone can help me?
[06:57] <jenda> kspath_: thanks ;) (it's for the #ubuntu-cz channel, so I found it Ubuntu-related enough)
[06:57] <wogi> Could someone direct me to a resource on installing dapper packages in breezy?
[06:57] <tuxtheslacker> bllell, we'lkl tell you if we can help when you tell is the problem ;-)
[06:57] <Fastly> is dapper officially released tomorrow?
[06:57] <serchan> I got it
[06:58] <kspath_> !tell Fastly about dapper
[06:58] <SurfnKid> thanks guys
[06:58] <bllell> ok, i've installed ubuntu, then i'd create an account, so i'd put a password, but what is root's password?
[06:58] <SurfnKid> i think im missing a few package installs
[06:58] <maruchan> whats the fastest why to uninstall xorg-fgrlx
[06:58] <kspath_> bllell: sudo
[06:58] <Fastly> thanks kspath_
[06:58] <wogi> bllell: Just sudo su and use your pw :)
[06:58] <NthDegree> bllell: there is none to start with, you use sudo to give your user root access
[06:59] <bllell> sudo?
[06:59] <SurfnKid> whats this mean?
[06:59] <SurfnKid> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:59] <SurfnKid> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[06:59] <SurfnKid> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[06:59] <SurfnKid> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:59] <SurfnKid> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[06:59] <bllell> how?
[06:59] <Seveas> SurfnKid, it means you shouldn't paste in here
[06:59] <bllell> i've type sudo on my console
[06:59] <andrejkw> Whoa, so we'll have to wait 3yrs for next next release after Dapper?
[06:59] <kspath_> bllell: Did you read any documentation?
[06:59] <SurfnKid> lol
[06:59] <Seveas> andrejkw, no, 4 months
[06:59] <SurfnKid> Im trhying to get help, not flood :)
[06:59] <andrejkw> Seveas: Wow, then Wikipedia has it wrong.
[06:59] <kspath_> bllell: sudo apt-cache search documentation
[06:59] <andrejkw> buntu version 6.06 LTS, codenamed "Dapper Drake", scheduled for release June 1 2006, will be supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 years on the server, instead of the usual 18 months [2] .
[06:59] <kspath_> bllell: It will ask for a password. Type in your password.
[07:00] <bllell> kspath_, how can i use sudo, can u tell me the string?
[07:00] <kspath_> bllell: sudo apt-cache search documentation
[07:00] <Seveas> andrejkw, dapper will be supported for 3 to 5 years, but there will be new versions every october and april
[07:00] <bllell> thank you
[07:00] <bllell> :)
[07:00] <andrejkw> Seveas: and will it be easy to upgrade?
[07:00] <Seveas> very
[07:00] <andrejkw> Seveas: ok great
[07:01] <wogi> Urgh. I wonder if there's any way to reset your nickserv pw..
[07:02] <Seveas> wogi, /msg nickserv set password new_pass
[07:02] <JulienH> Hello, I have a problem installing Ubuntu 5.10 on a RAID5 configuration
[07:02] <SurfnKid> how come when I do the apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx  message says  package is not available but is referred to by  another pacckage its missing or obsolete
[07:02] <ingo> is airport extreme working now? :-D
[07:02] <Seveas> SurfnKid, you're missing repositories
[07:02] <wogi> But that's assuming I remember my initial pw :)
[07:02] <Seveas> ingo, sort-of
[07:02] <andrejkw> lol, Engy Eft, whats that about?
[07:02] <andrejkw> *Edgy
[07:02] <JulienH> On the Alt+F4 console, it shows "Installing grub on '(hd0)'" whereas it should be on md0... isn't it ?
[07:02] <Seveas> wogi, in that case: contact freenode staff
[07:02] <kspath_> wogi: /msg nickserv help
[07:02] <SurfnKid> sounds likhow do I know which repo i need to enable
[07:02] <ingo> seveas: could you explain please?
[07:03] <_clem> does anybody know if the RC that was released on the 25th will become the final release ? or will any modifications be done to it ?
[07:03] <Seveas> !tell SurfnKid about repos
[07:03] <Seveas> ingo, you still need to install the firmware manually (fwcutter helps)
[07:03] <ingo> seveas: do you know if the speed / reliability is there now with dapper? or is it still flakey
[07:04] <Warp2> dapper has never been flakey for me, but I have a different definition of flakey perhaps
[07:04] <Seveas> ingo, it's no 1st class driver but reasonably decent
[07:04] <dizy> hi.... my mouse back and forward button acts like scroll up and down in firefox.. how can i fix this?
[07:04] <ingo> seveas: thank's for your help. the only thing to do now is try it out tomorrow :)
[07:05] <bllell> if i type sudo apt-cache search documentation, appear a list
[07:05] <kspath_> bllell: right
[07:05] <JulienH> Knock, knock ? No RAID ? :)
[07:05] <bllell> not so right ihihihi
[07:05] <juanca> hello everyone, I need to make a copy of a wiki for offline browsing, I thought about wget, but I can't make it
[07:05] <kspath_> bllell: apt-cache search would normally require "root" access.
[07:05] <kspath_> bllell: That is how to use sudo
[07:05] <Seveas> kspath_, no it won't
[07:05] <juanca> can some one help me please?
[07:05] <Seveas> !tell juanca about someone
[07:06] <p_mash> am trying to mount 2 ntfs partitions on another disk so I can copy stuff and nuke windows).. have created the /media/win1 and media/win2 dirs (using sudo -i) and mounted them.. but I get permission denied .. any help on this.. pls ..
[07:06] <bllell> then?
[07:06] <kspath_> bllell: then what?
[07:06] <bllell> when i type "su"
[07:06] <bllell> s.o. ask me a pw
[07:06] <kspath_> bllell: su is different than sudo
[07:06] <Kyral_FreeBSD> sudo!
[07:06] <Kyral_FreeBSD> sudo!
[07:06] <_clem> any info about the release candidate ?
[07:06] <Kyral_FreeBSD> sudo!
[07:06] <kspath_> bllell: man su;man sudo
[07:06] <bllell> yeah understand
[07:06] <Kyral_FreeBSD> seriously, someone symlink su to sudo :P
[07:07] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: They are different. No point in dumbing down things even more.
[07:07] <bllell> i know, but if i want to have root access (#) , i must type su, and type in a password
[07:07] <wogi> So.. Maybe if I add dapper server lines to my sources file I can install dapper pkgs O.o ?
[07:07] <Kyral_FreeBSD> kspath_: you mean we can dumb it down even MORE?
[07:07] <juanca> I need a hand to get a offline copy of a wiki site
[07:07] <Kyral_FreeBSD> :P
[07:07] <bllell> isn't it?
[07:07] <Kyral_FreeBSD> bllell: sudo -i
[07:07] <gnomefreak> wogi: dont mix breezy and dapper repos
[07:07] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: apparently.
[07:08] <bllell> huhuhuhu
[07:08] <Harold_P> ahh
[07:08] <bllell> i'm a stupid
[07:08] <bllell> ;)
[07:08] <Kyral_FreeBSD> kspath_: NOT POSSIBLE :P
[07:08] <bllell> thank kyral
[07:08] <Kyral_FreeBSD> hehe
[07:08] <Kyral_FreeBSD> np
[07:08] <Kyral_FreeBSD> I make fun of the distro, but I am still a Member and will support it :D
[07:08] <dizy> can someone please help me with the mouse ;/
[07:08] <Kyral_FreeBSD> is it plugged in?
[07:08] <juanca> i thought about wget but I can't find the right options
[07:08] <wogi> gnomefreak: So best to run either fully breezy or fully dapper?
[07:08] <Kyral_FreeBSD> juanca: man wget?
[07:08] <kspath_> juanca: curl? pavuk?
[07:08] <gnomefreak> wogi: yes
[07:09] <gnomefreak> wogi: mixing repos is teh fastest way to screw up your os
[07:09] <tuxtheslacker> share/image.c:313: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
[07:09] <tuxtheslacker> share/image.c:314: error: syntax error before } token
[07:09] <tuxtheslacker> make: *** [share/image.o]  Error 1
[07:09] <wogi> gnomefreak: hah ok. hrmm.
[07:09] <tuxtheslacker> that's what happens when I run a make on neverball, can someone tell me what would cause that?
[07:09] <gnomefreak> juanca: what is it saying?
[07:09] <Kyral_FreeBSD> tuxtheslacker: one NO PASTE
[07:09] <juanca> Kyral_FreeBSD: if I ask for help is because I have read the manual
[07:09] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: use pastebin
[07:09] <_clem> dizy: you need to tweak you /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.. in the device section. Give different meanings to each button.
[07:09] <Kyral_FreeBSD> tuxtheslacker: second someone made a STUPID eror in coding
[07:09] <wogi> gnomefreak: *sob* Evolution shall never work for me. But thanks for the warning!
[07:09] <zeccoz> rebooting modem brb
[07:09] <dizy> is there a guide on how to do do that
[07:09] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, I thoguht it was 4 lines that was flooding, sorry.
[07:10] <Kyral_FreeBSD> and ain't neverball in the Repos?
[07:10] <gnomefreak> wogi: evo is even worse in dapper
[07:10] <juanca> gnomefreak: hi, it more about not getting all the files, I think it is beacause they don't end in .html
[07:10] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: no lines
[07:10] <gdb> tuxtheslacker: you're fine
[07:10] <wogi> gnomefreak: hah but I have to connect to an exchange server.
[07:10] <wogi> gnomefreak: What choice do I have?
[07:10] <mwe> missing includes can cause syntax errors due to missing #defines
[07:10] <gnomefreak> wogi: that i dont know
[07:11] <Kyral_FreeBSD> mwe: that was no missing include
[07:11] <Kyral_FreeBSD> mwe: some idiot forgot a ; or somethign
[07:11] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: I even dumb down my answers but yet I do not spoonfeed because I assume anyone that has a clue will find out on their own and those that do not understand need to read a lot.
[07:11] <Kyral_FreeBSD> kspath_: bingo
[07:11] <mwe> Kyral_FreeBSD: I haven't seen the code, so I can't argue
[07:11] <Kyral_FreeBSD> kspath_: I won't give you the answer directly but I'll point you in the right direction
[07:12] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: How fast can you read?
[07:12] <eddiestone> hi peaple, how do I install compiz in dapper?
[07:12] <Kyral_FreeBSD> huh?
[07:12] <Kyral_FreeBSD> !compiz
[07:12] <ubotu> Compiz is a compositing manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. See http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz -- Installation howto's:   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.
[07:12] <tuxtheslacker> and... finiding the hanging } is not oging to be easy :-P
[07:12] <eddiestone> ok thanks
[07:12] <Kyral_FreeBSD> tuxtheslacker: this is why I use indentation
[07:12] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: I barely lifted my finger off the enter/return key before you answered bingo.
[07:12] <gnomefreak> eddiestone: #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-xgl please
[07:12] <Kyral_FreeBSD> and an editor that indents for me
[07:12] <Kyral_FreeBSD> so a missing brace causing the indentation to be funky
[07:13] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: pastebin the error with some more lines and/or point to your source code.
[07:13] <Kyral_FreeBSD> in vim the command would be (to reindent the entire file) gg=G
[07:13] <tuxtheslacker> mwe: it's not my source :-D it's neverballs.
[07:13] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: I know. that's what I meant :)
[07:14] <Kyral_FreeBSD> kspath_: I'm good like that?
[07:14] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: is it opensource?
[07:14] <Kyral_FreeBSD> I dunno its called I was paying attention for once :P
[07:14] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: where is the source for that?
[07:14] <tuxtheslacker> mwe one seocnd, I'll post it.
[07:14] <tuxtheslacker> http://pastebin.com/749382
[07:15] <tuxtheslacker> That's the source.
[07:15] <extern> what am I missing? I get sh: g++: command not found error when I try to compile
[07:16] <extern> gcc is installed
[07:16] <Kyral_FreeBSD> build-essential
[07:16] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: it's a missing/broken header causing it
[07:16] <Spec> Exposure: build-essential
[07:16] <tuxtheslacker> http://pastebin.com/749387
[07:16] <Spec> err, extern ^^
[07:16] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: like I thought
[07:16] <tuxtheslacker> mwe: figured as much :-P
[07:16] <Kyral_FreeBSD> configure should have picked up on that
[07:16] <Kr0ntab> gcc is different package than g++
[07:16] <tuxtheslacker> the question is... which?
[07:16] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: it says SDL_FreeSurface(src);
[07:16] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Kr0ntab: but build-essential still pulls it in
[07:17] <Kr0ntab> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:17] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: I says syntax error because that's not #defined
[07:17] <tuxtheslacker> mwe: where does it say that? I need to get better at reading these things.
[07:17] <Kr0ntab> i know
[07:17] <gdb> You're missing the SDL*.h headers.
[07:17] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: line 313 like the error told you
[07:17] <gdb> tuxtheslacker: At the top of the error output
[07:17] <Kyral_FreeBSD> btw I reposted with Syntax Hilighting
[07:17] <gdb> tuxtheslacker: do this "make neverball 2>&1 | more" and read the first few lines.
[07:17] <piou> dddddd
[07:17] <gdb> or whatever the name of the file is
[07:17] <tuxtheslacker> mwe, thanks!
[07:18] <Kyral_FreeBSD> http://pastebin.com/749389
[07:18] <stuman> hi.  new to ubuntu.  can you setup ubuntu to automatically log in a specific user after n seconds like plain old debian?
[07:18] <gdb> tuxtheslacker: You're probably going to need to install the Free 3d graphics stuff (SDL and GLuT).
[07:18] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: I'm guessing it needs to include some SDL headers it doesn't or use another version, but I'm only guessing
[07:19] <dizy> does anyone know why the mouse back and forward button would act like scroll up and down in firefox... i ca'nt find anything on google
[07:19] <tuxtheslacker> yeah, I'm assuming...
[07:19] <Harold_P> http://www.ubuntu.com/ Just changed
[07:19] <gdb> dizy: It's supposed to work that way
[07:19] <Harold_P> New lay out
[07:19] <tuxtheslacker> is the quake 2 in apt the quake 2 game? or just the engine?
[07:19] <gdb> dizy: scroll up is "mouse button 4" and scroll down is "mouse button 5"
[07:19] <Kr0ntab> stuman, check gdmsetup
[07:19] <pussfeller> tuxtheslacker: you will need the wafs
[07:19] <pussfeller> wads
[07:19] <stuman> tnx Kr0ntab
[07:19] <kbrosnan> ubotu, tell dizy about mouse
[07:20] <tuxtheslacker> thanks :-D
[07:20] <gdb> How disappointing.
[07:20] <dizy> but why are back and forward then acting like button4 and 5... anyway to reasign them
[07:20] <casanova_> hi guys, a question regarding the breezy badger release (yes, i'm abouttoupgrade through the repository)
[07:20] <gdb> I don't get the Desktop/Server distinction. :-/
[07:20] <Kyral_FreeBSD> casanova_: don't be surprised if the servers are overloaded
[07:20] <gdb> It annoys me when distributions try to do that.
[07:20] <KenSentMe> Kr0ntab: gdmsetup is not in the repositories, is it?
[07:20] <Kyral_FreeBSD> gdb: Desktop installs the GNOME and stuff
[07:20] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Server installs the good old Commandline
[07:20] <Kr0ntab> its installed by default...
[07:20] <Kyral_FreeBSD> think a basic Debian install :P
[07:20] <casanova_> Because i'm running an AMD 64 -bit chip, i chose to use the generic AMD 64 -patched kernel too
[07:20] <tuxtheslacker> is it safe to upgrade?
[07:21] <tritium> casanova_: you know that dapper will be released as stable in a few hours?
[07:21] <gdb> Kyral_FreeBSD: I get that, I don't get why there has to be a different install media for it.
[07:21] <tuxtheslacker> upgrade with apt*
[07:21] <Kyral_FreeBSD> gdb: there is? Since when?
[07:21] <casanova_> But i have a problem concerning the kernel: Macromedia Flash Player doen't support my kernel!
[07:21] <gdb> Kyral_FreeBSD: Since 6.06
[07:21] <casanova_> !?
[07:21] <ubotu> casanova_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:21] <Kyral_FreeBSD> tuxtheslacker: Servers will be overloaded about for about a week
[07:21] <Kr0ntab> go to system -> administration -> Login Screen Setup
[07:21] <Kr0ntab> or sudo gdmsetup
[07:21] <Kyral_FreeBSD> gdb: well, I stopped using Dapper a couple months ago so....
[07:21] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: what is the web page for neverballs?
[07:21] <Kyral_FreeBSD> gdb: frankly thats retarded :P
[07:21] <tuxtheslacker> Kyral_FreeBSD, no, I meant is it safe, or does it break it?
[07:22] <casanova_> there i should find a version of the Flash player that runs on amd_64 uvuntu?
[07:22] <Kyral_FreeBSD> tuxtheslacker: Dapper is going stable TOMORROW
[07:22] <stuman> tnx again Kr0n...  I couldn't find it under administration, but opened a terminal and did "sudo gdmsetup" and it did just what I wanted.
[07:22] <gdb> Kyral_FreeBSD: Well, at least there are separate links to download "Desktop Ubuntu" and "Server Ubuntu".
[07:22] <gdb> And yes, it's lame.
[07:22] <Kyral_FreeBSD> gdb: Server Ubuntu == Debian
[07:22] <Kyral_FreeBSD> in my eyes :P
[07:22] <tuxtheslacker> Kyral, no, what I mean is, is it safe to upgrade to Dapper form apt-get upgrade?
[07:22] <tuxtheslacker> from*
[07:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tuxtheslacker -about upgrade
[07:23] <tuxtheslacker> like it won't break things like in fedora with yum?
[07:23] <Kyral_FreeBSD> tuxtheslacker: should be, again I stopped testing Dapper about 2 months ago when I jumped to ArchLinux
[07:23] <ErenTurkay> hi again :)
[07:23] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: you should be fine
[07:23] <Kyral_FreeBSD> If you want to run a server, run Debian, simple as that
[07:23] <lwizardl> can ubuntu share printers with windows ?
[07:23] <Kyral_FreeBSD> or FreeBSD for that matter
[07:23] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, thanks :-)
[07:23] <gnomefreak> yw
[07:23] <ErenTurkay> ubuntu-6.06  %99 :))
[07:23] <gnomefreak> lwizardl: yes samba
[07:23] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, thanks :-).
[07:24] <gdb> I wouldn't run Debian for any reason.
[07:24] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: yw
[07:24] <tuxtheslacker> Kyral, how is archlinux? I've heard good things.
[07:24] <Kyral_FreeBSD> gdb: yet you run Ubuntu lol
[07:24] <NoUse> lwizardl https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[07:24] <Kyral_FreeBSD> tuxtheslacker: If you want everything to "just work" it ain't for you
[07:24] <casanova_> I would run Debian. Ubuntu and other "custom distros" jus save in installation (build) time
[07:24] <gdb> Kyral_FreeBSD: Yes, that's right.  And it's not Debian any more than CentOS is RHEL.
[07:24] <lwizardl> gnomefreak, ok I have samba setup already using my windows box as a location for storing files
[07:24] <Kyral_FreeBSD> tuxtheslacker: if you love to tweak the hell outta your system, then its for you :P
[07:24] <tuxtheslacker> Kyral, I'm coming from a slackware background.
[07:24] <tuxtheslacker> ;-)
[07:24] <Kyral_FreeBSD> tuxtheslacker: You'll be fine then! :D
[07:25] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Yea another Slacker!
[07:25] <gnomefreak> lwizardl: read the linkk NoUse posted
[07:25] <tuxtheslacker> I'm sticking with ubuntu, I was just asking for future reference :-D
[07:25] <tuxtheslacker> hahaha! many thanks.
[07:25] <gnomefreak> Kyral_FreeBSD: and gdb please take the general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:25] <lwizardl> gnomefreak, I am just was giving info on my setup incase i hit a snag in the config
[07:25] <NoUse> gnomefreak that link doesn't use samba but it works well for me
[07:25] <Kyral_FreeBSD> psh, another reason I like Arch, they don't mind general convos in thier channel :P
[07:26] <casanova_> Slackware is my favourite actually, it's the real linux -- if Gentoo is not a "linux" =DD
[07:26] <gdb> gnomefreak: Can you please swallow a Xanax?  Most of your scroll is telling other's to knock off whatever you find distasteful after all of 3 lines of text.
[07:26] <Kyral_FreeBSD> duck
[07:26] <kspath_> bye
[07:26] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: why don't you just apt-get install neverball?
[07:26] <gnomefreak> DBO: i asked you and Kyral_FreeBSD to move it to offtopic
[07:26] <Kyral_FreeBSD> if we are deluged with questions, then yes I can see forcing convos to -offtopic
[07:26] <crimsun> Kyral_FreeBSD: c'mon man, you know better.
[07:26] <Kyral_FreeBSD> but its relatively light in here
[07:26] <lwizardl> NoUse, that looks like the printer is hooked up to the ubuntu pc and printing from the windows pc
[07:26] <DBO> gnomefreak???
[07:26] <jimcooncat> ?
[07:27] <Shyne> is this the correct place to ask newbie questions ???
[07:27] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: why are you compiling it yourself?
[07:27] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Shyne: yes
[07:27] <NoUse> lwizardl is that not what you wanted?
[07:27] <gnomefreak> sorry not you DBO
[07:27] <gnomefreak> i meant gdb
[07:27] <onkarshinde> Shyne: yes
[07:27] <casanova_> Butin Debian, i think that the abundance of software, easiness of administration, and easy customization rules. OF course, i could use Gentoo or Slackware in some embedded projects as well, but...
[07:27] <Morrowyn> compiling is fun :D
[07:27] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: It does distract from seeing/noticing the questions even with all the ignores I have in place though.
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[07:27] <tuxtheslacker> mwe: it'
[07:27] <Kyral_FreeBSD> psh *goes back to hacking on his SHCD*
[07:27] <lwizardl> mine is hooked to the windows pc and I want to print from the ubuntu  pc to the windows pc (hit print in ubuntu, and windows pc print it)
[07:27] <tuxtheslacker> mwe: it's not in apt-get from what I see.
[07:27] <casanova_> By the way guys, is there anywhere a general Debianized custom kernel repository?
[07:27] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: it is. enable universe
[07:27] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Morrowyn: I actually like compiling lol
[07:28] <NoUse> lwizardl sorry, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter
[07:28] <lwizardl> ok thanks
[07:28] <mwe> !info neverball
[07:28] <casanova_> Cos i know a few kernel developers, but they rarely share their work.
[07:28] <ubotu> neverball: (3D arcade games: neverball & neverputt), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 1.4.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 176 kB, Installed size: 468 kB
[07:28] <Kyral_FreeBSD> BTW #ubuntuforums is also for offtopic :P
[07:28] <Shyne> right - i spent a couple of hours figuring out how to get my bluetooth keyboard/mouse set working - just needed to type a couple of lines in the end. Can i add these lines somewhere for them to be run automatically when it boots ???
[07:28] <lwizardl> NoUse, that one is exactly what i wanted. thanks
[07:28] <casanova_> I just know the "official" Debian kernel ports
[07:28] <tuxtheslacker> mwe: I've enabled it :-/.
[07:29] <onkarshinde> Shyne: What are those lines?
[07:29] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: uhm not succesfully I think if you don't have neverball
[07:29] <rhyddin> hey all
[07:29] <alaithea> hi all, is there a way to debug what's going on with my runlevel startup scripts? I've got one all set up (as far as I can tell), but it's not running after reboot.
[07:29] <tuxtheslacker> hahaha! mwe: what would neverabll be listed as? neverball I'm assuming?
[07:29] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ also exists
[07:29] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: did you sudo apt-get update after you enabled universe?
[07:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> kspath_: I am on them :P
[07:29] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: right
[07:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> almost all of them :P
[07:30] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: sudo apt-get neverball is what I did
[07:30] <Shyne> onkarshinde: hidd --connect <bd addr> is about the size of it- i tried the command suggested to add to the bluez file but it was ignored
[07:30] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: apt-get install neverball that is
[07:30] <Kyral_FreeBSD> and still, LKML outdoes them all combined :P
[07:30] <tuxtheslacker> okay, all of a sudden it showed up....
[07:30] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: heh
[07:31] <tuxtheslacker> mwe: it showed up this time randomly....
[07:31] <Shyne> am i supposed to use: sudo gedit /etc/init.d/local and add lines in there for startup stuff ?
[07:31] <onkarshinde> Shyne: In /etc/default/bluez-utils there is a section HIDD_OPTIONS
[07:31] <tuxtheslacker> hahaha! I did an apt-cache search on it for like minutes :-D
[07:31] <Kr0ntab> hehe  neverball rocks.
[07:31] <Shyne> onkarshinde where u add the switch -i <addr> ?
[07:33] <mwe> tuxtheslacker: it's kinda hard playing it with a trackpoint :)
[07:33] <onkarshinde> Shyne: You can put it this way, HIDD_OPTIONS="--master --server --connect addr_keyboard --connect addr_mouse". Put approriate values
[07:33] <tuxtheslacker> mwe, hahahaha! I would imagine :-D
[07:33] <Shyne> ah - i will try thanks
[07:33] <Shyne> the article i read used -i !
[07:33] <onkarshinde> Shyne: -I specifies which interface to use if yu have more than one.
[07:33] <Shyne> thanks
[07:33] <Shyne> ill give it a shot
[07:34] <juanca> gnomefreak: thanks, I will try another day bye
[07:34] <alaithea> is there a log I can look in to debug what's going on with my rc startup scripts?
[07:34] <speyer> hi all
[07:35] <speyer> is dapper out yet ?
[07:35] <Kyral_FreeBSD> alaithea: aside from dmesg
[07:35] <Kyral_FreeBSD> speyer: tomorrow
[07:35] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Word of caution, the servers will be swamped, so don't be surprised if its slow downloading mkay?
[07:35] <speyer> Kyral_FreeBSD what about tonight after twelve ?
[07:35] <Kyral_FreeBSD> speyer: What timezone :P
[07:35] <onkarshinde> speyer: 1st June, 5:30 am UTC
[07:35] <mwe> UTC
[07:35] <mwe> huh?
[07:35] <mwe> really?
[07:35] <speyer> whats utc ?
[07:36] <onkarshinde> @now UTC
[07:36] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: May 31 2006, 17:36:06
[07:36] <crimsun> speyer: it's frozen, the pool is in release state.
[07:36] <Kyral_FreeBSD> @now EDT
[07:36] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ...
[07:36] <Kyral_FreeBSD> @now EST
[07:36] <Ubugtu> Current time in EST: May 31 2006, 12:36:29
[07:36] <onkarshinde> !utc
[07:36] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, onkarshinde
[07:36] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ..that should really have EDT....
[07:36] <crimsun> speyer: until announced, it is not officially released
[07:36] <mheath> speyer, it's a universal time zone (based off GMT?)
[07:36] <czambran> UTC is the same as GMT
[07:36] <onkarshinde> UTC is Universal Coordinated Time I guess
[07:36] <speyer> no its not
[07:36] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Wed May 31 13:37:01 EDT 2006
[07:37] <speyer> here is 18:36 now
[07:37] <czambran> yes it is
[07:37] <Kyral_FreeBSD> thats the time EDT
[07:37] <tuxtheslacker> can I use gnomemeeting with windows users?
[07:37] <void^> utc = gmt - summer time
[07:37] <tuxtheslacker> and if so how?
[07:37] <czambran> huh?
[07:37] <Kyral_FreeBSD> @now utc
[07:37] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: May 31 2006, 17:37:20
[07:37] <speyer> :)
[07:37] <amphi> speyer: utc is the same as gmt
[07:37] <Kyral_FreeBSD> speyer: so you are UTC + 1 hour
[07:37] <speyer> 18;37 here now so why utc doesnt match ?
[07:37] <speyer> ohh
[07:37] <speyer> ok
[07:37] <amphi> speyer: uk? bst
[07:37] <pally> howto use apt-get to update the packages rather than dselect?
[07:37] <NoUse> guys, theh timezone chat should be in #ubunt-offtopic
[07:37] <Kyral_FreeBSD> so 0530 UTC would be 0630 your time
[07:37] <amphi> bst is gmt+1
[07:37] <speyer> so it wouldnt be available after twelve ?
[07:37] <onkarshinde> speyer: Set preferences of your clock in Breezy and check 'UTC'
[07:38] <Kyral_FreeBSD> pally: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:38] <kspath_> speyer: maybe after 23:59 UTC
[07:38] <Kyral_FreeBSD> onkarshinde: jeez there is a much faster way
[07:38] <speyer> onkarshinde why ?
[07:38] <czambran> UTC IS the same as GMT
[07:38] <czambran> http://www.dxing.com/utcgmt.htm
[07:38] <pally> Kyral_FreeBSD thank
[07:38] <Kyral_FreeBSD> speyer: drop to a commandline and run "date -u" to get the time in UTC
[07:38] <casanova_> Oh SHIT that's funny! They say that Yeah, you can run a Flash player on a 64 -bit computer -- you just need to get a 32 -bit browser and put the Flash player there :DDD
[07:38] <speyer> kspath_ tell me when about in my time here ;)) please
[07:38] <blue-frog> has anyone ever created an .ifo file from a .vob file, pls?
[07:38] <Kyral_FreeBSD> speyer: I did
[07:38] <mwe> onkarshinde: do you know if there is any reason for the 5:30 am UCT release time?
[07:38] <onkarshinde> speyer: So that you will know at what exact moment Dapper is released ;-)
[07:38] <Kyral_FreeBSD> speyer: to get your time add one hour to the UTC time
[07:39] <Kyral_FreeBSD> speyer: hence UTC + 1
[07:39] <SurfnKid> Casanova last time I used that language I got in trouble :P
[07:39] <onkarshinde> mwe: I don't know. May be for syncing of mirrors
[07:39] <speyer> Kyral_FreeBSD so it will be available after 23:59:59 :) right ?
[07:39] <mwe> onkarshinde: maybe so.
[07:39] <Kyral_FreeBSD> speyer: around 0630
[07:39] <czambran> no no
[07:40] <onkarshinde> casanova_: If you are brave enough, pull gnash from cvs and try compiling. Very preliminary work though.
[07:40] <speyer> czambran what no no ?
[07:40] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Wed May 31 13:40:23 EDT 2006
[07:40] <Kyral_FreeBSD> damnit
[07:40] <dorkomat> Hi. The new ati-fglrx-drivers don't work :-( What now?
[07:40] <speyer> :0
[07:40] <czambran> speyer GTM is the same as UTC
[07:40] <Kyral_FreeBSD> speyer: run in a terminal "date -r"
[07:40] <maikel> hola   maria me he conectado
[07:40] <Kyral_FreeBSD> !es
[07:40] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:40] <speyer> czambran got that the first time
[07:40] <czambran> in a little over 6 hours
[07:41] <kspath_> !tell maikel about es
[07:41] <Kyral_FreeBSD> I think we are confusing him
[07:41] <maikel> hola   maria me he conectado
[07:41] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Too many cooks in the kitchen anyone
[07:42] <TrendKi||> at what time will dapper be officially released?
[07:42] <speyer> Kyral_FreeBSD my time is set up right ... all i wanted to know is if dapper will be available after 23:59 tonight time zone "gmt"
[07:42] <kspath_> maikel: solamente ingles
[07:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> maikel: Yo no hablo espanol
[07:42] <xanavim> is there a way to put both of my wireless hubs into the /etc/network/interfaces file, so it will use whichever one it finds?  it's a royal pain switching the connection, takes about five minutes
[07:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Damn I hope I got that right
[07:42] <czambran> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/182
[07:42] <kspath_> maikel: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:42] <onkarshinde> xanavim: install network-manager
[07:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Its been like 6 or 7 years since I took spanish lol
[07:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> !dapper
[07:42] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[07:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> someoen put the release time in the topic
[07:42] <maikel> me guiere contesta
[07:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> this is getting annoying
[07:43] <kspath_> maikel: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:43] <zcat[1] > Thu Jun  1 05:38:08 NZST 2006
[07:43] <humbolt> can you believe that! instead of fixing their software, MS wants to cash off with selling their own virus scanning software?!
[07:43] <zcat[1] > hmm....
[07:43] <speyer> Kyral_FreeBSD :))
[07:43] <Raj> UTC 5:30am
[07:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Which is... 1:30 AM EDT
[07:43] <humbolt> if anything is politically uncorrect, this is!
[07:43] <czambran> Raj, what do u mean?
[07:43] <gorthaug> hi, i've a problem with php5-mysql & apache2 & mysql5. When i try to use the function mysql_connect(), it says me that this function is undefined, but with php4-mysql its works!
[07:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> 12:30 AM EST
[07:43] <amphi> humbolt: just yer standard abusive monopoly ;)
[07:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> 23:30 CST
[07:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> 22:30 MST
[07:43] <speyer> Kyral_FreeBSD what would that be GMT ?
[07:43] <Raj> Ubuntu release time UTC 5:30am Jun 1st
[07:44] <czambran> Raj, no
[07:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> 21:30 PST
[07:44] <mwe> Kyral_FreeBSD: nobody seems to read /topic anyway :)
[07:44] <Raj> UTC is nthng but GMT
[07:44] <czambran> Raj, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/182
[07:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> speyer: we told you like 6 times
[07:44] <humbolt> They will go down, like the fu*king roman empire.
[07:44] <amphi> Raj: well, it's Greenwichless gmt ;)
[07:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Since when has being policically correct been fun?
[07:44] <czambran> Go here for a clock
[07:44] <speyer> Kyral_FreeBSD aight .. got it
[07:44] <czambran> http://www.k3dn.org/java/java%20clock/clock.htm
[07:44] <czambran> speyer, this might help u
[07:44] <czambran> http://www.k3dn.org/java/java%20clock/clock.htm
[07:45] <Kyral_FreeBSD> oy
[07:45] <Kyral_FreeBSD> you can always get the time in GMT/UTC by running "date -u" in a terminal
[07:46] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: Please do not bring simplicity or logic into this.
[07:46] <czambran> huh??
[07:46] <czambran> kspath_, what do u mean?
[07:46] <kspath_> czambran: man sarcasm
[07:46] <mwe> kspath_: lol
[07:46] <czambran> kspath_,  oops!
[07:46] <czambran> when u r multitasking
[07:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> czambran: peopel were telling someone to adjust thier on screen clock to UTC to see UTC time when all you have to do is run "date -u" in a terminal
[07:47] <RobNyc> ctothej, u got XGL ?
[07:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ie, easy as can be
[07:47] <speyer> czambran well then ... there shows UTC 18:46 and local 19:46 but local its not right .. its 18:46 which its the right time ,,, so why does it say in that link local 19:46 ?
[07:47] <klaxian> i'm trying to set up a MS Exchange account in Evolution, but the configuration parameters don't show up...any ideas?
[07:47] <mwe> speyer: well it's 17:46 UTC
[07:47] <czambran> speyer, the UTC time is correct
[07:47] <onkarshinde> Shyne: there?
[07:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> speyer: what time is it
[07:47] <amphi> speyer: what's your bios clock set to? if it's set to localtime and you have your TZ set correctly, date will show you BST+!
[07:47] <amphi> er, BSt+1
[07:47] <klaxian> it works fine on my other computer, but this one has problems
[07:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> speyer: what does your clock say, on the wall
[07:48] <czambran> jejeje
[07:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> speyer: hell your wristwatch
[07:48] <czambran> lol
[07:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> this is really getting.....annoying
[07:48] <revmouse> lol
[07:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> how fscking hard is it to tell time!!
[07:48] <speyer> Kyral_FreeBSD 18:47 man which is right
[07:48] <czambran> it is
[07:48] <mwe> speyer: learn to read a clock. it says 17:46 UTC at that page
[07:48] <revmouse> Some people need sundials..
[07:48] <czambran> pretty hard it seems
[07:48] <swarmz> The countdown to 6.06 is in progress!
[07:48] <swarmz> woohoo
[07:48] <revmouse> What time does dapper come out if I'm using a sundial to tell time? :P
[07:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> swarmz: I'm warning you, for about a week the servers will be swamped
[07:49] <amphi> speyer: is your hw clock set to gmt/utc or localtime?
[07:49] <speyer> mwe NOOO is says 18:46 thats what i can see and i can read the god damm clock
[07:49] <swarmz> we need a bittorrent based apt!
[07:49] <speyer> amphi gmt
[07:49] <Some_Person> Ok, I can get on the internet.
[07:49] <czambran> speyer, we are just messing with you
[07:49] <Some_Person> But I can't get off the internet.
[07:49] <czambran> don't get upset
[07:49] <speyer> timezone set to GMT london
[07:49] <mwe> czambran: can you provide a link to a digital watch instead? people don't know how to read regular clocks :)
[07:50] <speyer> mwe yeah very funny
[07:50] <Some_Person> Is there a program that can connect/disconnect at the press of a button?
[07:50] <Raj> www.clocklink.com
[07:50] <czambran> mwe, lol
[07:50] <amphi> speyer: what does ls -l /etc/localtime show the symlink pointing to?
[07:50] <swarmz> couldn't they have released it midnight on the first country that experiences midnight for that day? :)
[07:50] <speyer> amphi im not logged into a linux machine now
[07:50] <mwe> speyer: what does your terminal output if you type date -u?
[07:50] <czambran> swarmz, just imagine the confusion that would have created. People don't even know what GMT/UTC is
[07:51] <czambran> people, speyer got it
[07:51] <revmouse> swarmz, I worked on a libtorrent based package manager last year
[07:51] <amphi> speyer: that's handy
[07:51] <czambran> he know already when it Dapper will be released
[07:51] <speyer> czambran :)
[07:51] <Some_Person> Is there a program that can connect/disconnect my modem at the press of a button?
[07:51] <swarmz> i have episode2 of hl2 to play tomorrow and windows is on dual boot. :(
[07:51] <Some_Person> To connect, I run wvdial in terminal
[07:51] <swarmz> revmouse: is it being developed regularly?
[07:51] <revmouse> swarmz, not anymore :)
[07:51] <swarmz> :( shame
[07:51] <swarmz> it would have rocked
[07:51] <Some_Person> To disconnect, I restart the computer (any alternatives)
[07:51] <revmouse> swarmz, the whole distro was based around it, but I fell in love with ubuntu
[07:52] <klaxian> anyone use exchange through evolution?  i'm having a problem setting up the account
[07:52] <Yokalosh> I'm having problems installing NVidia driver. I got a disk with my motherboard which has the drivers on it. I used 'uname -r' to get the kernel and downloaded the kernel headers etc. I then tried to run the installer for the drivers and it said the kernel had been compiled with gcc-3.4 and i had gcc-4.0 so i ignored this and continued. the installer then told me that 'nvidia.ko' (or something like that) couldn't be installed because 
[07:52] <Some_Person> Just use the VESA driver
[07:52] <swarmz> i think my next project needs to be getting hl2 working on ubuntu
[07:53] <swarmz> does 6.06 come with better codec support? and popular browser plugins like flash coming by default?
[07:53] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Yokalosh: install GCC-3.4
[07:53] <Some_Person> Is there a program that can connect/disconnect my modem at the touch of a button?
[07:53] <Raj> I saw beta with flash plugin
[07:53] <Kyral_FreeBSD> swarmz: Flash cannot for legal reasons, as always
[07:53] <zcat[1] > Yokalosh: just apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:53] <Some_Person> If not, can someone write one for me? :)
[07:53] <Kyral_FreeBSD> same with most codecs
[07:53] <lastnode> Some_Person, what is your modem?
[07:53] <Some_Person> Connexant
[07:53] <scifi> i think i deleted all my files from download directory yesterday, and now that ive rebooted i have no wallpaper :P
[07:53] <amphi> Some_Person: you can set up a button on gkrellm to do it, probably others
[07:53] <Kyral_FreeBSD> swarmz: however, libxine-extracodecs in multiverse should do you just fine
[07:54] <Yokalosh> zcat[1] : will that driver work with the nvidia geforce 6100?
[07:54] <swarmz> Kyral_FreeBSD: then why not provide a "setup" system that gets it from apt after install?
[07:54] <chaos_of_apocaly> what programming language would you people recommend me to do mostly internet programs?comunication programs,etc...i would prefer a simple but complete language
[07:54] <swarmz> that would be cool
[07:54] <Some_Person> What is gkrellm?
[07:54] <speyer> see you later
[07:54] <Kyral_FreeBSD> swarmz: Its called EasyUbuntu
[07:54] <jbroome> Some_Person: disk/cpu/network monitor
[07:54] <zcat[1] > Yokalosh: sorry, add multiverse first, apt-get update then apt-get install nvidia-glx...
[07:54] <zcat[1] > should do..
[07:54] <Shyne> onkarshinde: you are correct - it worked, but after i logged in it was no longer working
[07:54] <Some_Person> I need a disconnector to get off the internet, not a monitor!
[07:55] <scifi> anyone kno that wallpaper is called, it has a tree in the left hand-side and its done in a real stylish, silhouette style
[07:55] <swarmz> most of us are using ubuntu at work as our development platforms :)
[07:55] <zcat[1] > basically if nvidia-glx doesn'twork, nothing else will.
[07:55] <onkarshinde> Shyne: For your reference https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup?highlight=%28bluetooth%29#head-bee296c661c86538ace528645fa6d5ff66ccaffc
[07:55] <zasf> Hi all
[07:55] <Yokalosh> zcat[1] : this leads to the next problem, i also need the nvidia network drivers for my nforce which are on the same disk
[07:55] <Shyne> ah great !
[07:55] <Kyral_FreeBSD> zasf: before you ask Dapper is coming out 5:30 AM UTC :P
[07:55] <Some_Person> Whta day?
[07:55] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tomorrow
[07:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> June 1st
[07:56] <Some_Person> cool
[07:56] <zasf> Kyral_FreeBSD: nice
[07:56] <Some_Person> I'm gonna order it through ShipIt
[07:56] <zasf> so I can go eat now
[07:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> And if you ask what time that means in your TZ I will smack you
[07:56] <Yokalosh> zcat[1] : i have specific drivers for both but i can't use them because it gives me the error that i am using the wrong kernel source when infact i'm not and also i can't get gcc-3.4 as its not on my install disk for ubuntu
[07:56] <zcat[1] > afaik nvidia only have one 'linux driver' that supports all their cards ..
[07:56] <chaos_of_apocaly> is python a nce internet language?
[07:56] <jbroome> tcp/ip is a nice internet language
[07:56] <Some_Person> Can't you just release it now?
[07:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ....
[07:56] <madewokherd> chaos_of_apocaly: it's a nice general-purpose language..
[07:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Some_Person: No offense but that is lkike 100th time I have heard that today
[07:56] <Krpano> Kyral_FreeBSD , what would be in my TZ (Zurich)....?..:P
[07:57] <nico__> hi! can any1 suggest me a word processor like wordpad in windows?
[07:57] <zcat[1] > For network drivers I don't know.. that's a bit of a curly one. Personally if I get an unsupported chipset I just throw another network card in, I have a dozen spare cards that do work with linux, it's not worth messing with one that doesn't..
[07:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Some_Person: So go ahead and ask it, but expect me to smack you
[07:57] <spikeb> nico__, abiword
[07:57] <Some_Person> Now, about my modem...
[07:57] <GazzaK> Kyral_FreeBSD, yeah, release it now :p
[07:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ....
[07:57] <chaos_of_apocaly> what would you recommend me for internet based programs????
[07:57] <swarmz> nice_: openoffice?
[07:57] <revmouse> nico__, abiword is a lightweight word processor
[07:57] <Some_Person> How do I get off the internet with it?
[07:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> chaos_of_apocaly: PHP
[07:57] <swarmz> nico_: openoffice?
[07:57] <onkarshinde> nico__: What do you mean by 'like wordpad' what functionality do you expect?
[07:57] <mwe> Kyral_FreeBSD: provide this link to people as well, saying GMT=UTC: http://jasper.he.net/~beagle/Server/JavaClock.shtm :)
[07:57] <madewokherd> chaos_of_apocaly: python
[07:57] <swarmz> what's wrong with Text Pad anyway?
[07:57] <Raj> nico, Gedit
[07:57] <revmouse> Raj, lol
[07:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> or GVim :P
[07:57] <nico__> i just expect bold, underline, colours. stop
[07:57] <zcat[1] > Some_Person: it's practically released - go ahead and install the RC, there's minimal difference :)
[07:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> nico__: GEdit
[07:58] <Some_Person> gedit
[07:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> nico__: or KEdit in KDE
[07:58] <nico__> gedit don't allow bolding
[07:58] <onkarshinde> nico__: abiword
[07:58] <swarmz> oh man coders who use vim should be shit
[07:58] <Yokalosh> zcat[1] : it would work if i could get the driver to compile, but it seems the ubuntu kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4 and i can only get 4.0
[07:58] <swarmz> shot
[07:58] <chaos_of_apocaly> can you tell me where i can get good python tutorials??
[07:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ....
[07:58] <amphi> swarmz: why?
[07:58] <crimsun> chaos_of_apocaly: diveintopython is installed
[07:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> swarmz: you do know what you are brining on yourself
[07:58] <scifi> i cant believe it allowed me to delete the image if it was in use by the desktop :cc
[07:58] <Yokalosh> zcat[1] : i guess i'll use an old network card, get the stuff and then use my new one :)
[07:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> IGNITE THE EDITOR WAR !! :P
[07:58] <swarmz> nah i don't mean it, hunger must be affecting me
[07:59] <Some_Person> Now, how do I get off the internet without restarting the computer?
[07:59] <amphi> heh
[07:59] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Good boy :P
[07:59] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: eat my vim!
[07:59] <Kyral_FreeBSD> kspath_: I use Vim :P
[07:59] <swarmz> although i don't see the point of using it to develop on when you have development servers
[07:59] <amphi> Some_Person: killall pppd should do it ;)
[07:59] <revmouse> Kyral_FreeBSD, I like MS-DOS Editor myself :P
[07:59] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: eat my nvi!
[07:59] <Kyral_FreeBSD> kspath_: I'm coding in Vim right now :P
[07:59] <amphi> Some_Person: or poff, that's what I use
[07:59] <gilianima> Is it possible to install Ubuntu on an old G3 Mac using an USB memory card
[07:59] <Some_Person> ok
[07:59] <gilianima> ?
[07:59] <zcat[1] > Yokalosh: I think you just export CC=gcc-3.4 in your shell and then compile.. perhaps apt-get install gcc3.4  first if you really don't have it.
[07:59] <Kyral_FreeBSD> swarmz: "Development Servers"?
[07:59] <onkarshinde> Some_Person: what type of internet is it?
[07:59] <Some_Person> Can someone write me a quicky program with 2 buttons?
[08:00] <swarmz> yeah, as opposed to developing on a live server and keeping your code there
[08:00] <zcat[1] > Some_Person: how did you get on? I find pulling the plug to be fairly reliable..
[08:00] <Some_Person> Dialup
[08:00] <mwe> gilianima: can it boot from a usb stick?
[08:00] <Krpano> oh no
[08:00] <Kyral_FreeBSD> swarmz: I fail to see the connection. Vim is an editor
[08:00] <Kyral_FreeBSD> just an editor
[08:00] <Some_Person> To get on, I type wvdial in terminal.
[08:00] <gilianima> mwe: I don't know actually, how to know ?
[08:00] <swarmz> Kyral_FreeBSD: on a live server you don't usually install gui applications, which means you could only develop in vim or similar command line applications
[08:01] <Some_Person> or open a launcher to wvdial on my desktop
[08:01] <amphi> Some_Person: I used pppconfig, so I just do pon foo & poff
[08:01] <Kyral_FreeBSD> swarmz: I use Vim even on something with a GUI
[08:01] <onkarshinde> Some_Person: 'poff your_service_provider' is the command.
[08:01] <mwe> gilianima: can you get to some can of boot menu like the bios on a PC?
[08:01] <swarmz> exactly! why?
[08:01] <zcat[1] > Some_Person: what they said :)
[08:01] <onkarshinde> Some_Person: in case of wvdial just Ctrl+c should work
[08:01] <amphi> swarmz: I use vim for mail composition ;)
[08:01] <Kyral_FreeBSD> swarmz: because its quick and efficient and I know how to use it nicely?
[08:01] <swarmz> why not embrace the gui editors that do stuff like auto complete, nice indentation etc
[08:02] <Kyral_FreeBSD> swarmz: ever hear "If it ain't broke don't fix it"
[08:02] <amphi> zcat[1] : that's alomost worthy of bash.org...
[08:02] <Kyral_FreeBSD> swarmz: Vim does identation :P
[08:02] <Kyral_FreeBSD> as does Emacs :P
[08:02] <kspath_> swarmz: vim can have gui if you want it so badly.
[08:02] <zAo^> what is the other workaround for the XGL shift+backspace-kill?
[08:02] <amphi> swarmz: vim does folding too
[08:02] <swarmz> try a gui editor!
[08:02] <Kyral_FreeBSD> (me uses both Vim and Emacs as the mood or computer strikes him
[08:02] <amphi> zAo^: the dontzap option
[08:02] <swarmz> auto complete so you don't have to use short variable names!
[08:02] <mwe> Kyral_FreeBSD: vim 7 supports code completion, doesn't it?
[08:02] <zcat[1] > amphi: ouch. I see what you mean :)
[08:02] <gilianima> mwe: i don't know... actually, my cd drive doesn't recognize the ubuntu dapper install cd
[08:03] <Kyral_FreeBSD> mwe: I don't know i don't use the feature
[08:03] <amphi> zcat[1] : heh
[08:03] <rsk> when i reconfigure my locales to have isolatin i get..
[08:03] <swarmz> drop down menus for jumping to method / function / class declarations
[08:03] <rsk> Error: Bad entry 'ISO-8859-15 '
[08:03] <zAo^> amphi, thanks, but where can I find some info? forums?
[08:03] <mwe> Kyral_FreeBSD: I think it does
[08:03] <rsk> whats the "correct" name fore that?
[08:03] <mwe> gilianima: can it boot from a cd?
[08:03] <Kyral_FreeBSD> swarmz: Why? Small Compact VarNames are good practice
[08:03] <gilianima> mwe: but my mac laptop recognizes it
[08:03] <amphi> zAo^: dunno, I don't use xgl
[08:03] <gilianima> mwe: it should
[08:03] <Some_Person> I got it
[08:03] <Some_Person> its "killall wvdial"
[08:03] <gilianima> mwe: is there another way to install ubuntu than from a cd ?
[08:03] <Kyral_FreeBSD> swarmz: I should warn you, I am a Commmandline Commando :P
[08:03] <zAo^> amphi: thanks, found something on the forums
[08:03] <mwe> gilianima: odd then. you should of course use the right install cd, but I guess you are
[08:04] <zcat[1] > I can use vi if I really have to..
[08:04] <mawa> I run ubuntu on an older powermac g4 and i cant seem to access the capture controls/get microphone to work in alsa. known problem?
[08:04] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: apparently some think 50-300 character varnames are great.
[08:04] <gilianima> mwe: my computer works with internet
[08:04] <Kyral_FreeBSD> kspath_: and they should be SHOT
[08:04] <zcat[1] > sudo ifdown ppp0 would probably work too..
[08:04] <gilianima> mwe: and runs on mac os
[08:04] <mwe> gilianima: you need to boot somehow. netinstall is also possible it can netboot
[08:04] <amphi> Kyral_FreeBSD: indeed
[08:04] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: perhaps, I like varnames that are long enough but not long for the sake of silliness.
[08:04] <Some_Person> can someone write me a quicky program: 2 buttons: one says Connect and does the command "wvdial
[08:04] <gilianima> mwe: how to netboot ?
[08:04] <rsk> Error: Bad entry 'ISO-8859-15 '
[08:04] <rsk> whats the "correct" name fore that?
[08:05] <WimS> I just did an dist-upgrade to dapper that seemed to go without any problems except for one. ndiswrapper seem to not work any longer. my wlan0 alias seem to be gone, i have installed the driver and the eth0 is available. The only thing i need (i believe) is the wlan0 alias. How do i get this ?
[08:05] <Some_Person> the other is labeled Disconnect and does the command "killall wvdial"?
[08:05] <Kyral_FreeBSD> hell I have a varible in my program that I'm working on right now called "DESTINATIONADDR" and I consider that long
[08:05] <mwe> gilianima: I don't know if you even can on that machine. on my IBM laptop I just press esc at boot and choose net boot
[08:05] <zcat[1] > Some_Person: check apt,I think there'sa dozen programs that do that already..
[08:05] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: that was is likely long enough unless it could be confused with another.
[08:05] <Kyral_FreeBSD> kspath_: DESTADDR could prolly suffice
[08:05] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: agreed
[08:06] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Then again like half my code winds up ebing comments :P
[08:06] <mwe> gilianima: are you using the right install cd?
[08:06] <Kyral_FreeBSD> How many seconds in an hour...
[08:06] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: 60*60
[08:07] <mwe> ==3600
[08:07] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ty
[08:07] <Krpano> is it out yet ?  :D
[08:07] <Some_Person> lol
[08:07] <kspath_> !tell Krpano about dapper
[08:07] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ...*SMACK*
[08:07] <Krpano> mauhauha
[08:08] <gilianima> mwe: sure, it boots on my other mac
[08:08] <gilianima> mwe: the netboot should work on that machine, i'm testing it
[08:08] <Mysta_> hey guys, when i run the top command from the terminal how do I determine how much 'load' my 4 processors are taking on???
[08:08] <gilianima> mwe: but what address shall i give ?
[08:08] <kspath_> Mysta_: top? htop?
[08:08] <mwe> gilianima: and it's not intel based, the other one?
[08:09] <gilianima> mwe: where would it boot from
[08:09] <gilianima> mwe: no, the other one is an ibook
[08:09] <mwe> gilianima: you need to read a howto. you install a pxe server on the other machine and boot to that
[08:09] <Mysta_> kspath_: i am running TOP and I'm not sure if the info provided tells me about the individual processors
[08:09] <Some_Person> Can someone write me a quicky program: 2 buttons: one says Connect and does the command "wvdial"; the other is labeled Disconnect and does the command "killall wvdial"?
[08:10] <scifi> is it possible to find out what the previous filename of my desktop image was ??
[08:10] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Sorry I don't know GUI programming
[08:10] <gilianima> mwe: can i install a pxe on my ubuntu now ? (which is intel laptop)
[08:10] <onkarshinde> Some_Person: Why don't you just create launchers?
[08:10] <Some_Person> Does anyone?
[08:10] <Some_Person> good idea
[08:10] <Dunnix> whats the command to get root to work again?
[08:10] <Some_Person> why didn't i think of that
[08:10] <onkarshinde> Some_Person: Right click on desktop
[08:10] <Some_Person> sudo
[08:10] <mwe> Some_Person: yes. in python I guess I could. why not just create two desktop shorcuts though?
[08:10] <Some_Person> i know how
[08:11] <Dunnix> root disabled by default how do you enable it?
[08:11] <NoUse> !tell Dunnix about root
[08:11] <mwe> Dunnix: sudo passwd root. not recommended though
[08:11] <gilianima> mwe: it seems to complicated
[08:11] <mwe> Dunnix: just use sudo -i to get a root prompt
[08:12] <gilianima> mwe: I've got to find an easier solution to have ubuntu on that machine
[08:12] <mwe> gilianima: try to find out why it wont boot the cd
[08:13] <Some_Person> mwe: could you make that quicky program? (easier than shortcuts)
[08:13] <mwe> Some_Person: it not easier :)
[08:13] <Some_Person> ok
[08:13] <Some_Person> u dont have to
[08:14] <lastnode> mwe, we dont advocate that command (your earlier one) in #ubuntu, generally
[08:15] <pawsilver> Hi there can anyone help me?  Edubuntu doesn't want to load on my pc???  Its a brand new P4 Asus MB and an ATA serial HDD, it loads the live version and when i click on install it goes through the 1st screens and when it hits partitioning drives it hangs???
[08:15] <lastnode> mwe, the people who are experienced enough to know usually know it anyway
[08:15] <mwe> lastnode: I know that's why I said not recommended
[08:15] <lastnode> mwe, we usually dont even say it, just so you know :)
[08:15] <mwe> lastnode: I'll keep it a secret in the future then :)
[08:15] <lastnode> ;-)
[08:15] <defunkt> does anyone know why whenever i use any one my 100 ubuntu cd's (not kidding) it says it is missing lib4-udeb ?
[08:16] <sugoruyo> hi can someone help with a couple of problems [probably involving hardware detection] ?
[08:16] <lastnode> defunkt, when does this happen?
[08:16] <lastnode> !ask
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[08:16] <NoUse> pawsilver what version?
[08:16] <defunkt> during install
[08:16] <defunkt> when it is copying the files.
[08:16] <lastnode> sugoruyo, go ahead
[08:16] <sugoruyo> i'm using flight7 and i have some audio and video issues
[08:16] <LordElph> just a quickie: I can't wait until tomorrow! Is the version of Dapper Drake on the mirrors (dated 24th May) the same release as will be available for the big launch tomorrow?
[08:16] <scifi> anyone know any other good wallpaper sites other than gnome.art and gnome-look ?
[08:16] <sugoruyo> audio volume won't change no matter what i do...
[08:16] <hura> !ati
[08:16] <ubotu> [ati]  http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:16] <iGama> scifi deviantart
[08:16] <sugoruyo> and the screen brightness won't adjust
[08:16] <sugoruyo> i'm on a laptop
[08:16] <rockzman> How do I set my Ubuntu to run BlackBox instead of Gnome at login?
[08:16] <sugoruyo> a vaio
[08:17] <lastnode> sugoruyo, what is the model?
[08:17] <sugoruyo> VGN-FS215S
[08:17] <NoUse> rockzman it should appear in the session dropdown once its installed
[08:17] <onkarshinde> rockzman: At the time of login you should be able to select it from some list down there
[08:17] <scifi> iGama: TY! i think this is where i got my missing wallpaper image from
[08:17] <RobNyc> !mpe
[08:17] <ubotu> RobNyc: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:17] <RobNyc> !mp3
[08:17] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:17] <scifi> i recognize it
[08:17] <gnomefreak> rockzman: on the log in screen choose sessions than choose blackbox and set it as default it will opent hat each time
[08:17] <iGama> ;)
[08:17] <lastnode> sugoruyo, look for your model here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[08:17] <rockzman> gnomefreak: k let me check
[08:17] <Harold_P> I wodner if this thing can run ubuntu.... http://users.win.be/ws200167/minibook.jpg
[08:18] <SCAN_Man> One more day until Dapper!!! :)
[08:18] <SCAN_Man> !Dapper
[08:18] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[08:18] <SCAN_Man> Yay!!!! :)
[08:18] <GazzaK> not till then, argh :)
[08:18] <thomas> hello there
[08:18] <GazzaK> thats less than five hours here :)
[08:18] <BuzzBlaster> Any way to install 6.06 from live cd with a text mode install -- no X server or framebuffer?  The kernel option debian-installer/framebuffer=false does not work for me.
[08:18] <GazzaK> hello thomas
[08:18] <iGama> GazzaK buts it gmt time :)
[08:18] <sugoruyo> also i try to use anjuta IDE and it says glib is missing
[08:18] <iGama> i think
[08:19] <thomas> hello Gazzak
[08:19] <RobNyc> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 31 17:56:25 2006
[08:19] <Krpano> GMT ?....:D
[08:19] <sugoruyo> can i do something about that?
[08:19] <RobNyc> wtf
[08:19] <GazzaK> iGama, thats good then, as so am I
[08:19] <iGama> me 2 :p
[08:19] <thomas> :-)
[08:19] <GazzaK> Krpano, Greenwich Mean Time (London Time)
[08:20] <iGama> +0 hours :)
[08:20] <Krpano> lol
[08:20] <hura> hey guys 9250 ati pci graphics card should work right?
[08:20] <Krpano> i cant wait that much
[08:20] <GazzaK> Greenwich is a lovely bit of London...
[08:20] <scifi> when the "big" day comes tomorow, will i have to re-install my apps once ive updated to dapper ?
[08:21] <eggzeck> hura, yes it will
[08:21] <iGama> portugal this side :p
[08:21] <pawsilver> NoUse, hi its beta version 8
[08:21] <soundray> RobNyc: reboot in recovery mode and delete /var/run/sudo/robnyc
[08:21] <lastnode> scifi, nope :) ubuntu will do that all for you. just upgrade and sit back
[08:21] <lastnode> ;-)
[08:21] <scifi> xcellent
[08:21] <NoUse> pawsilver I'd try a more recent install CD
[08:21] <hura> eggzeck, I meant with fglrx
[08:21] <NoUse> pawsilver it'll be final tomorrow
[08:21] <hura> or whatever its called
[08:21] <RobNyc> ty soundray
[08:21] <eggzeck> hura, yes, I have a 9250
[08:21] <hura> sweet thanks
[08:22] <eggzeck> hura, if you need help, don't hesitate to ask.
[08:22] <zerby_> can i ask a newbie question?
[08:22] <hura> eggzeck, thanks man
[08:22] <soundray> zerby_: NO!
[08:22] <soundray> zerby_: of course you can.
[08:22] <Krpano> ehehe
[08:22] <zerby_> soundray: makes zerby sad
[08:22] <soundray> !ask
[08:22] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:22] <zerby_> lol
[08:22] <ciruzzo> how to install a .exe prog with wine and how can I start it?
[08:22] <zerby_> on the ubuntu desktop
[08:22] <avalost> anyone have any idea as to why my wget hangs using 'update-flashplugin'?
[08:22] <scifi> does anyone know of UK laptop sellers who dont pre-install XP ?
[08:22] <zerby_> starting a root programm
[08:22] <kspath_> !tell ciruzzo about wine
[08:22] <gnomefreak> ciruzzo: wine file.exe
[08:23] <zerby_> oops i will ask in one sentence
[08:23] <pawsilver> Do you think it will sort the probelm out?  Because I also tried the old stable release 10.05 and it didn't work
[08:23] <rockzman> how do i access my mn it was to be
[08:23] <CodeWarrior_> hello folks, is there a repository that I could get some packages (without using apt-get), something like packages.debian.org ?
[08:23] <rockzman> how do i access my mn it was to be by default on dock of gnome and it disappeared
[08:23] <ciruzzo> gnomefreak, kspath_ where does wine install it?
[08:23] <rockzman> msn*
[08:23] <bur[n] er> CodeWarrior_: packages.ubuntu.com ;)
[08:23] <krang> Anyone kniow how I change my default media player from totem to mplayer?
[08:23] <krang> Anyone kniow how I change my default media player from totem to mplayer?
[08:23] <zerby_> on the ubuntu desktop starting a root prog, say networkprog, i will be asked for passwd, when i give passwd it will give an error
[08:23] <kspath_> ciruzzo: /join #winehq
[08:23] <ciruzzo> ok
[08:23] <Dunnix> whats the command to reload x?
[08:23] <bur[n] er> ciruzzo: ~/.drive_c/
[08:24] <CodeWarrior_> bur[n] er: hehe thanks a lot guy
[08:24] <bur[n] er> Dunnix: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:24] <Harold_P> Dunnix, ctrl + alt + backsapce
[08:24] <bur[n] er> CodeWarrior_: np
[08:24] <soundray> zerby_: are you entering your user password? Because that's what you should do.
[08:24] <zerby_> starting from the console with xhost +localhost a\nd: su no problem
[08:24] <zerby_> user passwd
[08:24] <zerby_> mmm
[08:24] <zerby_> the user i am tryingt o help has user=rootpasswd
[08:25] <zerby_> i mean she entered for root passwd the same as for user, soundray
[08:25] <soundray> zerby_: is she in the admin group? Check with 'groups'
[08:25] <zerby_> ok thats an idea
[08:25] <zerby_> i will take a note
[08:26] <CodeWarrior_> is there anybody that runs AMD64 Dapper version ?
[08:26] <user_> hola
[08:26] <zerby_> tx for the idea soundray
[08:26] <user_> hay alguien que hable en castellano?
[08:27] <RobNyc_C> soundray, i dont see /var/run/sudo*
[08:27] <kspath_> !tell user_ about es
[08:27] <soundray> zerby_: any time
[08:27] <sugoruyo> what if my laptop is not there/
[08:27] <Dunnix> shit i was trying to get the right resolution on my laptop and now i have an error saying "The application "gnome-panel" has quit unexpectedly
[08:27] <rockzman> Where are the BlackBox Setup files?
[08:27] <Warp2> does anyone here backup movie DVDs with gnomebaker or anything similar? a windows friend just showed me dvddecrypter and I'd like to do something similar under linux
[08:27] <soundray> RobNyc_C: that's strange, because I do...
[08:27] <user_> hola
[08:27] <kspath_> !tell user_ about es
[08:27] <RobNyc_C> soundray, i booted in recovery mode and i dont see
[08:28] <xukun> My x system crashes and reboots whithout no reason, I dont know where to start or to look for the reason why. this is one error I found, please take a look: http://pastebin.com/749488
[08:28] <NoUse> Warp2 look into k9copy.sf.net
[08:28] <Some_Person> My launcher for disconnect doesn't work
[08:28] <soundray> RobNyc_C: what's the time where you are?
[08:28] <RobNyc_C> soundray, America/New_York
[08:28] <Some_Person> how come "killall wvdial" won't work as a launcher
[08:29] <Warp2> sorry can you repeat that? I pressed ctrl-c in x-chat and all heck broke loose :)
[08:29] <_tmx_dt2> hey can any1 help me mount my ntfs primary hard drive that i can't find ever since I BSOD safe mode or not.  thanks
[08:29] <soundray> RobNyc_C: your problem will fix itself at about 5.56 pm.
[08:29] <NoUse> !tell Warp2 about k9copy
[08:29] <Some_Person> how come "killall wvdial" won't work as a launcher
[08:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Anyone know anything about passing Arrays in Bash scripts
[08:29] <Warp2> thanks!
[08:29] <Some_Person> Hello?
[08:29] <crimsun> probably because wvdial needs root privs to be killed?
[08:29] <kspath_> Kyral_FreeBSD: #bash
[08:29] <rockzman> Where are the BlackBox configuration files?
[08:29] <Some_Person> oh
[08:30] <Kyral_FreeBSD> kspath_: good point
[08:30] <RobNyc_C> soundray, it happens all the times the time gets later and later and later lol and in order for me to be able to sudo i gotta log out
[08:30] <Some_Person> i'll just slap on sudo
[08:30] <_tmx_dt2> hey can any1 help me mount my ntfs primary hard drive that i can't find ever since I BSOD safe mode or not.  thanks
[08:30] <soundray> RobNyc_C: your system clock is fast?
[08:30] <RobNyc_C> soundray, 3.0ghz ?
[08:30] <Warp2> k9copy compresses, though ... I don't want to reduce movie quality
[08:30] <xukun> anybody , maybe some kind of log file that I can read?
[08:30] <Some_Person> didn't work
[08:30] <soundray> RobNyc_C: harhar, I mean your RTC
[08:31] <rahonavis> _tmx_dt2, have you considered doing a low level format of the drive and repartition it ?  sonuds like its not booting.
[08:31] <Some_Person> it works when i type it in terminal
[08:31] <RobNyc_C> soundray, whats that
[08:31] <NoUse> Warp2 you'll need to unless you have DVD9s
[08:31] <Warp2> I do have DVD9s :)
[08:31] <Some_Person> how come i cant make it into a launcher?
[08:31] <soundray> RobNyc_C: never mind. Run ntpdate at regular intervals to prevent that problem.
[08:31] <NoUse> Warp2 then you can just copy the disc
[08:31] <Warp2> but most DVDs I have to copy are only 4gb anyway so I'd rather not compress
[08:31] <RobNyc> soundray, it seems good now
[08:32] <RobNyc> i hope it stays like that
[08:32] <tat_> does kubuntu has the same repositoris like ubuntu ?
[08:32] <kspath_> tat_: it is one distrobution
[08:32] <NoUse> tat_ yes
[08:32] <_tmx_dt2> where can do you buy double layer dvds?
[08:32] <Warp2> tmx: I bought some from amazon.com <shrug>
[08:32] <Bugs> Question:  If I do manual "apt-get update" or "apt-get upgrade"  does my SYNAPTIC stay in sync ?
[08:32] <Warp2> target sells them, too (more expensive)
[08:32] <_tmx_dt2> hrmm
[08:33] <_tmx_dt2> i suppose i'll try amazon ;o
[08:33] <rahonavis> Bugs, of course
[08:33] <Warp2> err, k9copy is kde ;)
[08:33] <rahonavis> _tmx_dt2, try www.meritline.com they might sell em
[08:33] <Bugs> rahonavis: cheers mate
[08:33] <rahonavis> np :)
[08:34] <rahonavis> dvd9's ridata brand $1.90 each at meritline.com
[08:34] <pcp> hi folks 'n good evening
[08:36] <richard> one
[08:36] <pcp> cause i couldnt google any apropriate answer, i gotta ask here =)
[08:36] <mwe> Some_Person: I made your program. it need python2.4-qt3 though
[08:36] <zerby_> soundray: i checked it in my ubuntu install (vmware) i added root to group > it seems to work
[08:37] <zerby_> tx fro suggestion
[08:37] <zerby_> for
[08:37] <mirak> is the alternate installer also a live cd ?
[08:37] <_tmx_dt2> hey can any1 help me mount my ntfs primary hard drive that i can't find ever since I BSOD safe mode or not.  thanks
[08:37] <richard> hello
[08:37] <richard> i need some help here
[08:37] <pcp> need help to configure my breezy to switch my monitor in stanbymode (i am using only the console--> no gdm). right now the monitor just blanks out...
[08:38] <pcp> just a little hint please =)
[08:38] <seth__> Hello everyone.
[08:38] <Jimmey__> _tmx_dt2: are you trying to use a liveCD to get at the files?
[08:38] <richard> i download skipe , but i dont understand how to install it
[08:38] <richard> today is my second day on ubuntu
[08:38] <seth__> Me to
[08:38] <seth__> .
[08:38] <zerby_> lol ok
[08:39] <NoUse> !tell richard about skype
[08:39] <zerby_> there is a packagemanager
[08:39] <zerby_> you downloaded skypoe with that?
[08:39] <richard> ok
[08:39] <richard>  hold on...
[08:39] <zerby_> it should appear in internet menu
[08:39] <richard>  let me check
[08:39] <zasf> hi all
[08:39] <seth__> Hey
[08:39] <zasf> when is dapper released?
[08:39] <zasf> what time I mean?
[08:39] <Jimmey__> zasf: hey
[08:39] <bur[n] er> !topic
[08:39] <Jimmey__> !dapper
[08:39] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[08:39] <MHobbit> zasf: Unknown...
[08:40] <bur[n] er> 10:00 am BST
[08:40] <seth__> 2:37 PM EST.
[08:40] <zasf> here they say midnight GMT http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1073144&postcount=130
[08:40] <NoUse> !skype
[08:40] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[08:40] <NoUse> richard ^^^
[08:40] <xukun> I,m just browsing or I,m reading the mail and just sudenly x system restarts, its like I have pushed ctrl+alt+backspace. I have no idea what is going on or where to look
[08:40] <richard> the file i d/load is skipe_1.2.0.18-2_1386.deb
[08:40] <mwe> Some_Person: so if you still want it I made that program with two buttons for you.
[08:41] <richard> hello
[08:41] <Jimmey__> richard, hi
[08:41] <zerby_> moment richard
[08:42] <richard>  jimmm, hi
[08:42] <richard>  ok
[08:42] <zerby_> richard: you mean skype or skipe?
[08:42] <richard>  skype
[08:42] <richard> skype
[08:43] <richard> its my first time usin linux
[08:43] <Tomcat__> zasf: Same on the Ubuntu fridge
[08:43] <hura> !ati
[08:43] <ubotu> [ati]  http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:44] <Jimmey__> hura, try "/msg ubotu ati"
[08:44] <NoUse> richard did you get the link ubotu posted?
[08:44] <richard> the file i d/load is on my desk top
[08:44] <Jimmey__> NoUse, I sent it to him privately
[08:44] <hura> Jimmey__, I know...
[08:44] <richard> no
[08:44] <MrErnst> what can i use to get to choose between OS, i had ubuntu as main but no installed Windows on another partition and now it only starts with windows
[08:44] <richard>  i didnt
[08:44] <tarzeau> 5 hours for ubuntu 6.06 left?
[08:44] <NoUse> !skype
[08:44] <ubotu> I heard skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[08:44] <NoUse> richard ^^^
[08:45] <richard> thanks
[08:45] <morten__> is it possible to install midnight commander on ubuntu?
[08:45] <Mysta_> when i run the top command from the terminal how do I determine how much 'load' my 4 processors are taking on???
[08:45] <zerby_> ok Richard, yes i dont see it in the repositiry
[08:45] <hura> Jimmey__, the entire reason ubotu is here to help people
[08:45] <mwe> morten__: yes
[08:45] <zerby_> richard: youve installed it?
[08:45] <Jimmey__> MrErnst: Grub is the package you need, and it installs with Ubuntu as default. To change it's settings you'll need to edit it's configuration file.
[08:45] <morten__> downloaded a package but it failed dependencies
[08:45] <luis_> do you think ubuntu will be released on midnight? or just tomorrow?
[08:45] <zerby_> dpkg -i skype...blabla
[08:45] <mwe> morten__: sudo apt-get install mc
[08:45] <richard> no
[08:45] <ria> ati radeon 7500?
[08:45] <richard>  i cant
[08:45] <Jimmey__> hura, yes, but you needn't show the channel something that only you need.
[08:46] <zerby_> ok, richard open console
[08:46] <zerby_> alt + F2
[08:46] <mwe> morten__: enable universe though
[08:46] <richard>  how do i do that
[08:46] <zerby_> xterm [enter] 
[08:46] <MrErnst> Jimmey, the problem is that windows starts, i don't even get to choose
[08:46] <mwe> zerby_: I don't think xterm is installed by default
[08:46] <zerby_> MMM OK
[08:46] <Jimmey__> MrErnst, did you install Windows after Ubuntu?
[08:47] <zerby_> i am not that familiar with ubuntu ;)
[08:47] <richard> i've mastered windows, but completely ignorant to linux
[08:47] <MrErnst> :-D
[08:47] <richard> lol
[08:47] <MrErnst> yes
[08:47] <mwe> zerby_: it is odd it's not installed by default I think though
[08:47] <zerby_> you know how to openb a concole, richard
[08:47] <just_me> Hi, I'm a newbie on Ubuntu using, but I would like to use with the Live CD and save some script files
[08:47] <Bugs> richard:  you'll never go back once you get use to this gem
[08:47] <kspath_> Mysta_: man top  search for SMP
[08:47] <morten__> how do i enable universe?
[08:47] <neoXite> hi! does the mozilla-acroread plugin in dapper work for anyone?
[08:47] <Flannel> !tell MrErnst about dualboot
[08:47] <mwe> !tell morten__ about universe
[08:47] <richard> thanke
[08:47] <poningru_> neoXite, use evince
[08:47] <mwe> morten__: read /msg from ubotu
[08:48] <jorgg> neoXite, not for my
[08:48] <jorgg> me
[08:48] <richard>  i like it already
[08:48] <zerby_> richard: t should be possible
[08:48] <zerby_> alt + F2
[08:48] <zerby_> i checked
[08:48] <zerby_> type: xterm
[08:48] <richard> how do u open 'console'
[08:48] <zerby_> enter
[08:48] <zerby_> richard:
[08:48] <zerby_> alt + F2
[08:48] <Jimmey__> !enter
[08:48] <bur[n] er> !enter
[08:48] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[08:48] <richard> ok
[08:48] <bur[n] er> :)
[08:48] <richard>  got that
[08:48] <zerby_> sorry
[08:48] <zerby_> ok
[08:49] <Bugs> richard:  i have used windows for ~ 15 years or more (win 3.11) - linux is the cat's meow my friend
[08:49] <zerby_> type in xterm: su
[08:49] <richard> lol
[08:49] <zerby_> [enter] 
[08:49] <zerby_> no just do: su
[08:49] <Jimmey__> richard, don't..
[08:49] <zerby_> i am sorry Jimmey__
[08:49] <Bugs> zerby_:  whats the difference between SU and SUDO ?
[08:50] <mwe> zerby_: root login is disabled in ubuntu by default
[08:50] <zerby_> ok i am just ubuntu n00b
[08:50] <zerby_> ok:
[08:50] <ferris_> su changes you to superuser
[08:50] <mwe> Bugs: sudo runs one command as root. su lets you login as a different user
[08:50] <zerby_> sudo dpkg -i skype(completename)
[08:50] <ferris_> sudo doesn't
[08:50] <Flannel> Bugs: Sudo keeps logs of everything, and only makes you root for one command
[08:51] <Bugs> mwe:  oh...i see...so, using SU, as long as you are in that shell, you remain super user, no
[08:51] <Bugs> ?
[08:51] <delta> Hi.
[08:51] <bur[n] er> better yet richard... you can run "sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/sky<tab> and it should autofill in the name... it might be a capital S
[08:51] <Bugs> Flannel: cheers mate
[08:51] <ferris_> hello delta
[08:51] <mwe> Bugs: sudo -i will give you a root shell but yes
[08:51] <kspath_> Mysta_: if you want shiny graphics try http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html search for SMP
[08:51] <zerby_> maybe i better shut up
[08:51] <zerby_> ;)
[08:51] <ferris_> just me check ubuntuguide.org
[08:52] <kspath_> Mysta_: sudo apt-cache search gkrellm
[08:52] <rug> Howdy all
[08:52] <ria> help ati radeon mobility m7 lw (radeon mobility 7500).
[08:52] <delta> ferris_: hey. Are you a dapper user?
[08:52] <bur[n] er> ubuntuguide is crap
[08:52] <mwe> !ubuntuguide
[08:52] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[08:52] <bur[n] er> ria: what's the problem?
[08:52] <ferris_> nope, i use debian sid
[08:52] <HotDrive> hello ppl
[08:52] <g0dchild> what command do i have to issue in order to enable bitmap fonts in xorg?
[08:53] <g0dchild> i've already tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg....is there anything else i can try?
[08:53] <ria> my englich is not gud , germann?
[08:53] <Flannel> !de
[08:53] <kspath_> !tell ria about de
[08:53] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[08:53] <Bugs> Ever since I upgraded to Drake, I don't get any sound in XCHAT anymore....what gives?
[08:53] <rug> with crontab; is it 'sensitive' to spacing? (ie 10 * * * /script vs 10     *     * /script)
[08:53] <Kyral_FreeBSD> You get sound out of XChat? Since when?
[08:54] <sebp> !tell sebp about dapper
[08:54] <mwe> Bugs: do you hear sound at all?
[08:54] <Bugs> Kyral_FreeBSD:  I used to get a beep....
[08:54] <cge> Rug: I don't believe so, but the man page would probably have information pertaining to that question.
[08:54] <mwe> sebp: just /msg the bot. /msg ubotu <factoid>
[08:54] <Rug> cge: it doesn't help
[08:54] <Bugs> mwe:  yes...!  i think I accidently enable it LOL
[08:54] <Kyral_FreeBSD> We should get Ubotu to automatically tell about dapper whenever he sees the string "When is dapper coming out"
[08:54] <delta> ferris_: ok, sorry.
[08:54] <kspath_> Rug: your example was bad    you have 5 columns in first and 4 columns in second .
[08:55] <ferris_> g0dchild, is this for your fonts?
[08:55] <g0dchild> ferris_, nope- trying to get xfonts-artwiz to work on fluxbox
[08:55] <mwe> Kyral_FreeBSD: ubotu could need a makeover in general
[08:55] <richard> i'm a little confused.......
[08:55] <cge> Rug: I see. You can always just try some wierd sort of spacing with a test entry set to run a minute or so in the future to see if works.
[08:55] <jean> Hi
[08:55] <SurfnKid> hey guys i got it! my ATI driver is installed, but I got a problem with the resolution
[08:55] <richard>  lets start again
[08:55] <morten__> wow got it working thanks
[08:55] <Bugs> mwe:  do you have sound with this message ?
[08:55] <TIIPOS> sourceforge is being wierd
[08:55] <xukun> dmesg is showing a lot of ERROR* locking memory at ... anybody know what that means
[08:55] <TIIPOS> I am trying to download this file http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8351
[08:55] <richard>  i open the console..........
[08:56] <Rug> kspath_: sorry, I just didn't want to flood.  Should there be spaces or can I have TAB seperating the fields
[08:56] <TIIPOS> and I cannot find where to download it?
[08:56] <ferris_> delta, what issue are you having?
[08:56] <SurfnKid> its at 1024x768 and I need to set it for 1280x800 and It wont let me how can i figure that
[08:56] <bur[n] er> richard: eeasier way is to wait one day... upgrade to dapper, then you can just doubleclick the downloaded Skype installer ;)
[08:56] <kspath_> Rug: man crontab ; man cron
[08:56] <TIIPOS> if you click on the download button it takes you to another page that doesn't let you download the file
[08:56] <richard> ok
[08:56] <mwe> Bugs: huh? I don't use xchat. irssi doesn't beep on highlight by default
[08:56] <TIIPOS> do any of you know hwhere I can download Planescape for Linux?
[08:56] <Bugs> mwe:  oic....sorry...
[08:57] <richard> i d/load ubuntu 5.10 yesturday
[08:57] <richard> loved it so far
[08:57] <mawa> I run ubuntu on an older powermac g4 and i cant seem to access the capture controls or get the microphone to record any sound. any suggestions?
[08:57] <richard>  and u r now tellin me a better one is out there
[08:57] <Lord_Illidan> Yep
[08:57] <Lord_Illidan> Dapper is being released 2morow, infact
[08:57] <UNDERsoN> hi everyone! don't you know when 6.06 would be released? ( sory for my English)
[08:57] <Bugs> richard:  yes, upgrade to 6.06
[08:58] <UNDERsoN> ups
[08:58] <Lord_Illidan> 6.06 is being released 2morow
[08:58] <richard> ok
[08:58] <hura> !ati
[08:58] <kspath_> !tell UNDERsoN about dapper
[08:58] <ubotu> I heard ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:58] <delta> ferris_: an odd one :) First, I have various result with xubuntu when installing nvidia driver. Second, I was getting vfreq problem with my crt monitor when driver installation sucess: and there is a "fix" which I'll be happy to share among other user :)
[08:58] <Bugs> UNDERsoN: shoude be June
[08:58] <richard>  i sent for the cd.........
[08:58] <richard>  but i'm way in jamaica
[08:58] <stjepan> !ide
[08:58] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, stjepan
[08:58] <wulff> Hi . I  just upgraded to dapper drake, and now my network card freeze at start up. If i unplug and replug my network cable, i have network 1 minuet and then it freezes. Any suggestions how to fix this? Thanks
[08:58] <stjepan> !eclipse
[08:58] <ubotu> to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[08:58] <RandolphCarter> wulff: sky2?
[08:58] <Bugs> Drake is working brilliant for me ;)
[08:59] <rubso> ubuntu 6.06 should be released in about 4 hours ?
[08:59] <stjepan> do you know any good C/C++ IDEs with Autotools (autoconf) support?
[08:59] <grap> hi
[08:59] <tat_> if i click on the help button in openoffice.org base i get an error that says "the help system could not be started" is there a package missing or something ?
[08:59] <Jimmey__> tat_, yes - Search for "open office" in synaptic
[08:59] <neoXite> so i just installed the dapper rc and encrypted all partitions with luks, can i just dist-upgrade on friday and happily walk away?
[08:59] <ubuntu> 
[08:59] <blaalys> rubso, 5. GMT is one hour off from DST
[08:59] <zOap> I thought ndiswrapper was preinstalled on breezy? But I can't find it..
[08:59] <kspath_> tat_: else apt-cache search openoffice
[09:00] <Bugs> I have HAD IT with WINDOWS !!!!
[09:00] <jgfig> Hi can anyone help me with this installation, It keeps restarting during the process of installing ubuntu but everytime I can install winXP
[09:00] <jgfig> does anyone know why?
[09:00] <ubuntu> list
[09:00] <Bugs> That Windows Auth is KILLING ME!!!!
[09:00] <grap> i wanted to know if the ubuntu that is going to be realised tomorrow or next month in general, will have XGL defaultly!
[09:00] <kspath_>  /ignore grap
[09:00] <Bugs> jgfig: whats the matter mate ?
[09:00] <TIIPOS> jsdlkjfldskfjsd
[09:01] <TIIPOS> sorry about that
[09:01] <grap> kspath_: why ignore?
[09:01] <jgfig> Bugs im just chaning my name to [zero] 
[09:01] <UNDERsoN> he is angry man
[09:01] <zero> just so you know
[09:01] <grap> d'oh
[09:01] <grap> any answer to my question?
[09:01] <zero> I currently have nothing on my HDD whatso ever as I formatted it
[09:01] <RandolphCarter> grap: nope, no Xgl by default
[09:02] <UNDERsoN> last hourz of breezy on this chanel as I understand
[09:02] <Bugs> zero: what is your issue when you try to install ?
[09:02] <grap> what a pitty XDD
[09:02] <zero> So I tried to install ubuntu but the pc just restarts at random points of the instalation
[09:02] <grap> thanks RandolphCarter
[09:02] <hura> !tv out
[09:02] <ubotu> hura: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:02] <Tribaal> Hi all
[09:02] <zero> but whenever I install windows xp it doesnt
[09:02] <grap> bye
[09:02] <zero> ;/
[09:02] <Krpano> how is called the next version of Ubuntu ?...after dapper
[09:02] <ferris_> grap did you delete the partitions?
[09:02] <RandolphCarter> grap: np's :) and not really a shame, hopefully by the time Eft comes out Xgl will be more stable
[09:02] <Tribaal> Krpano -> Edgy Eft
[09:02] <rubso> Ubuntu 6.06 is going to be offered in Torrents, right?!
[09:02] <Krpano> thx
[09:03] <Tribaal> np
[09:03] <evanpro> Torrance, Redondo Beach, all over the South Bay
[09:03] <Bugs> zero :  GET a new install CD ... that happened to me too - SO frustrating....I burned a new CD at a SLOWER speed (x 8) and it fixed everything
[09:03] <evanpro> Even Palos Verdes and El Segundo
[09:03] <zero> Bugs iv only got CDRW's atm
[09:03] <Tribaal> Anybody from Switzerland in here ('xept me of course) ?
[09:03] <Krpano> ME
[09:03] <DSL_> exit
[09:03] <zero> and I have tried 2 versions of ubuntu
[09:03] <SurfnKid> ey Tribaal
[09:03] <zero> 5.10 and 4.10
[09:03] <zero> happens with both
[09:03] <Bugs> zero what is "atm"
[09:04] <SurfnKid> not really, but hows it going
[09:04] <zero> at the moment
[09:04] <zero> sorry
[09:04] <Bugs> zero - at the moment ?
[09:04] <zero> yep
[09:04] <Tribaal> SurfnKid -> Nice =)
[09:04] <Krpano> Tribaal , Im in CH...but im brazilian...:)
[09:04] <Bugs> zero ; np, that should be fine...
[09:04] <SurfnKid> Tribaal its cold there right
[09:04] <Tribaal> Krpano -> What city?
[09:04] <Tribaal> Not that cld
[09:04] <zero> Alright i'll get another disc make sure it isnt this one
[09:04] <UNDERsoN> Somebody from Ukraine or xUSSR is here?
[09:04] <Tribaal> *cold
[09:04] <Bugs> zero: that is exactly what I used..no DVD, only CD
[09:04] <Krpano> Geneva and u ?
[09:04] <Tribaal> Lol Geneva
[09:04] <Bugs> zero :  but, write it at a slower speed, k?
[09:04] <Krpano> eheheh
[09:04] <zero> alright
[09:05] <zero> brb
[09:05] <SurfnKid> hey you know emule Tribaal?
[09:05] <Tribaal> How about an ubuntu realease party? =)
[09:05] <Tribaal> sure
[09:05] <Bugs> zero: it frustrated me for hours until I found some obscure note on the net....
[09:05] <Krpano> if there is some hot girls...im on it..:)
[09:05] <klerfayt> what's the command to remove folder that is full
[09:05] <SurfnKid> i thought thats where the razorback server got nuked
[09:05] <Tribaal> Damn I thought you'd bring the girls ;)
[09:05] <SurfnKid> somewhere in SWITZ
[09:05] <kspath_> klerfayt: folder? full?
[09:06] <Pizbit> Krpano: Always a good thought
[09:06] <Lastinus> i hear the ubuntu is released on 0day sites :P
[09:06] <Krpano> eheh
[09:06] <trevor> does anyone here us SMB4K to mount samba shares?
[09:06] <klerfayt> kspath_: rmdir doesn't allow to remove if it contains some files
[09:06] <sZ|omg> OMG
[09:06] <zero> Bugs ahh
[09:06] <Krpano> Pizbit , always the first thought too..lol
[09:06] <Pizbit> hehe
[09:06] <Bugs> zero wassup
[09:06] <kspath_> klerfayt: so you are refering to directories. man rm
[09:06] <Lastinus> trevor: i've tried SMB Fuse really cool :)
[09:07] <kspath_> klerfayt: Be VERY careful with recursive options in commands though.
[09:07] <zero> Bugs shall i download the iso again or use the one i already have?
[09:07] <plb> release teh dapper! =P
[09:07] <Krpano> agreed
[09:07] <Tribaal> zero -> wait for a few hours and get the final dapper
[09:07] <Bugs> zero : you can probably use the same iso.  can you do a md5sum and check it ?
[09:07] <trevor> lastinus, is SMB Fuse a program?
[09:07] <senicas> hi all - i am trying to assciate progs to file extensions - the "right click on file and add prog" approach doesn't work  - any ideas?
[09:07] <zero> k
[09:07] <Bugs> zero : just in case ....
[09:07] <nf4> if I am useing the new ubuntu do I need to manualy install the nvidia drivers?
[09:08] <nf4>  it seems they are working but i cant tell
[09:08] <zero> whats different about the versions which are released??
[09:08] <bruce89> lots
[09:08] <zero> as there is a new one today..
[09:08] <nf4> i like the draper drake or what ever it is called
[09:08] <hura> eggzeck, hey dude did you ever get the tv out working?
[09:08] <nf4> the RC is what I am useing now
[09:09] <bruce89> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta are the new things
[09:09] <UNDERsoN> New version would be released by Africa time or by London?
[09:09] <hura> UNDERsoN, there is no time set
[09:09] <Tribaal> GMT 0:00
[09:09] <Subhuman> I'm guessing gmt midnight
[09:09] <brandon_> the pirate bay was raided and shut down today
[09:09] <plb> cmon devs give the users an earlier present and release this biatch ;] 
[09:09] <Tribaal> so wherever you are in 5 hours from now
[09:09] <rockzman> Can someone help ? I installed blackbox using synaptic where is blackbox configuration files?
[09:09] <Bugs> brandon_:  wow...no kidding ?
[09:09] <Krpano> release Edgy Eft.
[09:09] <nf4> I am useing this one
[09:09] <brandon_> Bugs absolutely true
[09:09] <nf4> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/dapperrc
[09:09] <Tribaal> yeah pirate bay is gone... saw that on /.
[09:10] <amphi> rockzman: ~/.blacboxrc or summt
[09:10] <klerfayt> rm -d /usr/local/12f doesn't allow me to remove
[09:10] <Bugs> brandon_:  how did they do that .. not a usa company ???
[09:10] <Krpano> too bad....about TPB
[09:10] <brandon_> swedish police
[09:10] <nf4> they been down befor
[09:10] <rockzman> amphi: none should i create ?
[09:10] <Tribaal> Swedish police raided and seized servers =(
[09:10] <nf4> a few were hoaxes
[09:10] <Bugs> brandon_:  holy cow
[09:10] <bruce89> of cource, none of us need pirated software
[09:10] <nf4> I wonder if this is the real deal
[09:10] <brandon_> how many otrrents used TPB as a tracker?
[09:10] <Tribaal> but I guess they'll be up again sometime ;)
[09:10] <Bugs> checking digg :) for truth
[09:10] <MTecknology> bruce89, that's why we use linux
[09:10] <xukun> What is the release date for dapper?
[09:10] <Krpano> bruce89 , but we dl alot of porn
[09:10] <Krpano> :D
[09:10] <rockzman> amphi: none should i create ?
[09:11] <Tribaal> =)
[09:11] <MTecknology> xunu, tomorrow
[09:11] <Tribaal> Dapper is release tonight at midnight GMT
[09:11] <nf4> do I need to install the nvidia drivers useing draper
[09:11] <estudiantes> hola
[09:11] <Tribaal> nf4 yeah
[09:11] <estudiantes> hola
[09:11] <nf4> ok
[09:11] <brandon_> http://digg.com/technology/ThePirateBay.org_Raided_-_Servers_Seized
[09:11] <nf4> it seems differant than in brezy
[09:11] <kspath_> estudiantes: Students, solamente ingles
[09:11] <estudiantes> no me van a responder
[09:11] <anomy> hey all by any chance does anyone know what ubuntu sets for the default root password on a newly installed server style syter?
[09:11] <kspath_> !tell estudiantes about es
[09:11] <estudiantes> chao pescao
[09:11] <amphi> rockzman: man blackbox will tell you the name of the file
[09:12] <Arthas> Ubuntu sets a random password
[09:12] <nf4> in brezy i could install the nvidia driver and the settings with this one it is one or the other
[09:12] <anomy> where can i find it?
[09:12] <rockzman> amphi: Where does it tells me ? 
[09:12] <amphi> rockzman: I use openbox, haven't use bb for ages, so I forget
[09:12] <rockzman> amphi: i see is open lighter than bb?
[09:12] <Flannel> anomy: believe root password is disabled.
[09:12] <amphi> rockzman: I don't have bb installed here
[09:12] <andrejkw> Hey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png
[09:12] <amphi> rockzman: no, it's a rewritten semi-clone
[09:12] <Arthas> All you have to do is use sudo, anomy
[09:13] <Bugs> I knew DIGG would have that by now...!
[09:13] <anomy> so how do i log into root?
[09:13] <zero> I hope I can get this ubuntu working within the next 4hours :)
[09:13] <rockzman> amphi: whut is the diff then?
[09:13] <Arthas> You don't
[09:13] <kspath_> rockzman: I have fluxbox and openbox and blackbox and ion3 and ... installed     just try them.
[09:13] <Tribaal> You don't need root password just use sudo instead
[09:13] <zero> I bet my friend 1 i could haha
[09:13] <Flannel> anomy: sudo, you don't need to log into root.
[09:13] <Flannel> !tell anomy about root
[09:13] <Flannel> you can read about it from that link
[09:13] <amphi> rockzman: do apt-cache show openobox
[09:13] <amphi> er, openbox
[09:13] <Arthas> root is a bad idea
[09:14] <kspath_> Arthas: root is a bad idea for very ignorant persons.
[09:14] <amphi> rockzman: and compare with apt-cache show blackbox
[09:14] <ruskie_> http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload9/keft.png
[09:14] <facundo> when will be ready the new ubuntu version
[09:14] <ruskie_> the error in the second console
[09:14] <amphi> facundo: later
[09:14] <facundo> how?
[09:14] <ruskie_> how do i get rid of that.. the fallback thingy
[09:14] <kspath_> !tell facundo about dapper
[09:14] <hura> anyone use 9250 ati radeon?
[09:14] <Bugs> zero: are you installing on a laptop ?
[09:14] <[zero] > nah desktop
[09:14] <Tribaal> facundo: Dapper is released at midnight GMT time
[09:14] <Arthas> kspath
[09:14] <Arthas> yes, but even if you are in the know, a mistake can set you back miles
[09:14] <Arthas> like, an rm * .mp3
[09:14] <Arthas> in the home directory
[09:15] <Bugs> zero: what kind / spec's ?
[09:15] <Flannel> Tribaal: I doubt that.  It'll be released sometime on june 1st.
[09:15] <rockzman> amphi: im downloading to try
[09:15] <rockzman> :P
[09:15] <facundo> ok
[09:15] <facundo> thnks
[09:15] <kspath_> Arthas: Hence the point of my saying very ignorant persons.
[09:15] <Tribaal> That's right... at midnight GMT, it will be june 1st =)
[09:15] <Tzy> grr , can someone help my , yesterday I installed compiz whitout a problem, but in the gdm greeter I cant type '@' and other altgr combination, but in gnome I can (in sessions I have added setxkbmap) but how can I do this for the greeter? (belgium keyboard)
[09:15] <ruskie_> anyone?
[09:15] <Hackmo> Hey all, i'm having a problem with firefox
[09:15] <Tribaal> Flannel: That's right... at midnight GMT, it will be june 1st =)
[09:15] <[zero] > Bugs, its a pentium 3 not sure about much else :/
[09:15] <Hackmo> it won't load up because it says my profile is already in use
[09:15] <Spec> Bugs: The good kind of /
[09:15] <Hackmo> but there is no instance of firefox running
[09:15] <greyscale> How do I get more than 1024x768 in dapper?
[09:16] <ruskie_> greyscale: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:16] <ruskie_> greyscale: and restart x
[09:16] <greyscale> ruskie: where?
[09:16] <Arthas> sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:16] <ruskie_> greyscale: what?
[09:16] <Hackmo> anyone got any ideas?
[09:16] <greyscale> I know that its that file. Just WHAT in it do I change it to?
[09:16] <Arthas> run in a terminal : sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:16] <Krpano> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/182
[09:16] <Flannel> !tell greyscale about resolution
[09:16] <ruskie_> greyscale: there is no default conf
[09:16] <klerfayt> is it possible to scroll the text in "ctr+alt+f1" ?
[09:16] <kspath_> Hackmo: search engine search for the error
[09:16] <MTecknology> I just installed a fresh copy of Dapper. It detected my wireless card, but I can't connect to a network with it. I installed the Wireless Assistant, and it won't detect my access point.
[09:17] <Flannel> klerfayt: shift pageup/pagedown
[09:17] <Hackmo> kspath: I can't, I can't access the web
[09:17] <greyscale> Awsome ^^
[09:17] <greyscale> Thahnks
[09:17] <Tzy> Arthas: no I have don that but it does not work
[09:17] <rockzman> amphi: where do i download obconf
[09:17] <rockzman> amphi: better interface :D
[09:18] <kspath_> rockzman: apt-cache search obconf
[09:18] <amphi> rockzman: apt-get install obconf doesn't work?
[09:18] <Arthas> or use synaptic instead
[09:19] <tuxtheslacker> hey guys...
[09:19] <kspath_> rockzman: apt-cache search openbox
[09:19] <tuxtheslacker> picasa now stopped working.
[09:19] <rockzman> kspath_: ty
[09:19] <andrejkw> Hey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png
[09:19] <tuxtheslacker> I don't know why, could someone help me out
[09:19] <tuxtheslacker> ?
[09:19] <rockzman> amphi: o no man my amsn was configured to stay on gnome docks
[09:19] <rockzman> amphi: how do i "unhide" it?
[09:19] <tuxtheslacker> I dind't change anything.
[09:19] <amphi> rockzman: I know nothing of gnome docks
[09:19] <tuxtheslacker> the program looks like it'll run, but then breaks.
[09:20] <amphi> rockzman: or amsn for that matter
[09:20] <tuxtheslacker> I'll pastebin the strace if it's helpful.
[09:20] <rockzman> kspath_: my amsn is set to stay on docks when it initialize so i just opened and it is hide how do i do to unhide it?
[09:20] <amphi> rockzman: BTW, obconf only lets you configure some aspects of openbox; other config stuff is concealed in ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml
[09:20] <MTecknology> Is Ekiga only for talking to people that also have Ekiga, or can I use it as a phone?
[09:20] <kspath_> rockzman: I do not know or use amsn
[09:20] <rockzman> ok
[09:20] <tuxtheslacker> mmap2(0xc8120000, 131072, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS|MAP_NORESERVE, -1, 0) = 0x7bee0000
[09:20] <tuxtheslacker> munmap(0x7bee0000, 131072)              = 0
[09:20] <tuxtheslacker> mmap2(0xc8120000, 65536, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS|MAP_NORESERVE, -1, 0) = 0x7bef0000
[09:20] <tuxtheslacker> munmap(0x7bef0000, 65536)               = 0
[09:20] <rockzman> amphi: thanks amphi
[09:20] <tuxtheslacker> sorry1
[09:21] <rockzman> i'll be trying some here
[09:21] <tuxtheslacker> wrong screen!
[09:21] <Flannel> MTecknology: it can talk to all h.323 clients, and yes, I believe you can call out too, through some service.
[09:21] <Hackmo> MTecknology: go to ekiga website, it has a list of protocals it supports
[09:21] <MTecknology> ty
[09:21] <MTecknology> I just installed a fresh copy of Dapper. It detected my wireless card, but I can't connect to a network with it. I installed the Wireless Assistant, and it won't detect my access point.
[09:21] <Hackmo> MTecknology: Yeah you can call land line phones with it but you need to pay
[09:21] <MTecknology> o :(
[09:22] <Hackmo> anyone here have an ipod
[09:22] <tuxtheslacker> Hackmo, I do, but I use it with a mac....
[09:22] <igorzolnikov> how can i know my current video driver for xorg?
[09:22] <Hackmo> MTecknology: yeah you wont find any free pc to phone voip software anymore
[09:22] <tuxtheslacker> gtkpod is probably what you're looking for though, Hackmo
[09:22] <MTecknology> aight
[09:22] <Hackmo> tuxtheslacker: ever used banshee with it?
[09:22] <Hackmo> tuxtheslacker: ok thanks
[09:22] <tuxtheslacker> Hackmo, nope :-/. sorry.
[09:22] <rockzman> amphi: tell me more utilities for obconf for its customization
[09:23] <Arthas> Amarok also works, I think?
[09:23] <amphi> rockzman: huh?
[09:23] <NoUse> Hackmo I do, 4th gen B/W 20GB
[09:23] <igorzolnikov> less /etc/xorg.conf | grep driver ???
[09:23] <andrejkw> Hey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png
[09:23] <MTecknology> OK, After after activating eth1 (my wireless) and clicking OK, I go back into Networking and it is deactivated.. ????
[09:23] <tuxtheslacker> anyone have picasa stop running?
[09:23] <amphi> rockzman: vim ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml ;)
[09:23] <tuxtheslacker> it used to run, and then all of a sudden just stopped.
[09:23] <Hackmo> NoUse: what software do you use with it?
[09:23] <tuxtheslacker> I have no idea why.
[09:24] <Arthas> run it from a terminal, see what errors it gives uou
[09:24] <rockzman> amphi: mm i meen programs like obconf but with more plugins and options u know any?
[09:24] <amphi> rockzman: plugins?
[09:24] <NoUse> Hackmo Amarok 1.4
[09:24] <tuxtheslacker> http://pastebin.com/749645
[09:24] <lotv> i'm trying to install 6.06 rc and i get an installation error, it doesn;t recognize my ethernet (which works pretty well without any tweaking with this 5.10 64-bit installation)
[09:24] <rockzman> amphi: with plugins*
[09:24] <tuxtheslacker> the porblem is in that line, I just don't know how to fix it.
[09:24] <pally> The updated Ubuntu KDE/QT doesnt support font 'FZZhunYuan M02S' ??
[09:24] <Hackmo> NoUse: how does Amarok run on GNOME?
[09:24] <amphi> rockzman: obconf is a simple configurator for most commonly messed-with aspects of openbox
[09:24] <NoUse> Hackmo just fine I'm sure
[09:24] <tuxtheslacker> Hackmo, it runs beautifully.
[09:25] <Flannel> lotv: you installing from the liveCD? or the install CD?
[09:25] <rockzman> amphi: good i got ya but i have been asking if u know any another configurator?
[09:25] <amphi> rockzman: otherwise you must manually tweak the config file I mentioned above, AFAIK
[09:25] <amphi> rockzman: it's not difficult
[09:25] <lotv> install flannel
[09:25] <rockzman> amphi: yea i noticed i was just wondering
[09:26] <amphi> rockzman: you will find useful docs under /usr/share/doc/openbox
[09:26] <tuxtheslacker> anyone know if there's known issues with picasa?
[09:26] <NoUse> !tell Hackmo about amarok
[09:26] <MTecknology> How do I know whick BCM utility to install?
[09:26] <tuxtheslacker> it just stopped working after I installed the ATi drivers.
[09:26] <MTecknology> How do I know whick BCM utility to install?
[09:26] <Bugs> zero: you installing ?
[09:26] <tuxtheslacker> then when I try to delete the old one, and apt-get it, it tells me that programs refer to it or something along those lines.
[09:27] <igorzolnikov> how can i my video cards?
[09:27] <igorzolnikov> know
[09:27] <[zero] > Bugs im just burning it
[09:27] <p_mas1> so what the difference between badger and dapper... and will I be able to do a "live update" from badger to dapper ??
[09:27] <MTecknology> How can I tell what wireless driver I have installed?????????????
[09:27] <NoUse> igorzolnikov lspci
[09:28] <chmod775> !dapper
[09:28] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[09:28] <BeNi> did Official dapper release?
[09:28] <igorzolnikov> thx
[09:28] <NoUse> BeNi tomorrow
[09:28] <chmod775> nope
[09:28] <amphi> BeNi: not as such
[09:28] <Flannel> p_mas1: yep. you can look here for notable changes: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta
[09:28] <Krpano> BeNi , http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/182
[09:28] <chmod775> gnome power manager sucks though on some laptops
[09:28] <kspath_> !tell BeNi about dapper
[09:28] <[zero] > that ubuntu, what time GMT:+0 will it be?
[09:28] <Bugs> zero: cool...what video card do you have ?
[09:29] <Flannel> people, it probably is not going to release at midnight GMT.  It'll release SOMETIME on the 1st.
[09:29] <Krpano> Flannel , http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/182
[09:29] <Krpano> it says 0 hour
[09:29] <[zero] > Bugs, I think its 32/64mb in the one im installing ubuntu on
[09:30] <tuxtheslacker> how do I add a module to the kernel permanently.
[09:30] <tuxtheslacker> ?
[09:30] <tuxtheslacker> I want to add the v4l modules, and everytime I reboot, they're not added.
[09:31] <crimsun> tuxtheslacker: are they listed in /etc/modules ?
[09:31] <tuxtheslacker> yes.
[09:31] <rockzman> amphi: where is the menu.xml file?
[09:32] <tuxtheslacker> crimsun, yes.
[09:32] <crimsun> tuxtheslacker: I hope you meant s/add a module to the kernel permanently/load a module on boot/
[09:33] <tuxtheslacker> crimsun, yes. :-)
[09:33] <crimsun> tuxtheslacker: you don't have anything funky in /etc/modprobe.conf or the like, correct?
[09:34] <kspath_> !tell Lord_Illidan about away
[09:34] <tuxtheslacker> crimsun, not that I'm aware of.
[09:34] <SurfnKid> well so far my ATI card is now working thanks whoeer helped me
[09:34] <rockzman> can anyone give me a hand with ma openbox
[09:34] <rockzman> ?
[09:34] <crimsun> tuxtheslacker: ok, let me rephrase: /etc/modprobe.conf doesn't exist, correct?
[09:34] <tuxtheslacker> crimsun, if it isn't possible I'll go ahead and write a shell script... :-/.
[09:35] <tuxtheslacker> crimsun, no, but modprobe.d does.
[09:35] <Krpano> !tell Krpano how to win lots of money, without effort
[09:36] <crimsun> tuxtheslacker: right, the former shouldn't but the latter should.
[09:36] <amphi> rockzman: try updatedb; locate menu.xml
[09:36] <tuxtheslacker> okay, good.
[09:36] <tuxtheslacker> crimsun, should i create modprobe.conf?
[09:36] <Krpano> quote: ubotu	No, krpano, I won't.
[09:36] <Krpano> lol
[09:36] <sybariten> soon i discovered, that this rock-thing was true.
[09:36] <sybariten> Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil. Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet.
[09:36] <crimsun> tuxtheslacker: Absolutely not. Can you confirm that they're not blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist* ?
[09:36] <rockzman> amphi: only about gimp
[09:36] <rockzman> amphi: i downloaded an ob menu editor
[09:36] <kspath_> sybariten: Are you aware you are in #ubuntu?
[09:36] <tuxtheslacker> crimsun, is blacklist a text file?
[09:37] <tuxtheslacker> crimsun, there's not blacklist* file.
[09:37] <crimsun> tuxtheslacker: there are several such prefixed text files.
[09:37] <crimsun> tuxtheslacker: (I'm referring to Dapper)
[09:37] <tuxtheslacker> crimsun, there are none on this and I'm on breezy :-P
[09:38] <_grout> what command will upgrade 5.1 to dapper?
[09:38] <crimsun> tuxtheslacker: ok, are they referenced in /etc/hotplug/blacklist* , then?
[09:38] <tuxtheslacker> apt-get upgrade.
[09:38] <UserName14> how do you make it so the root gets its own email instead of it going to my account name
[09:38] <Flannel> _grout: 5.10, and once it's released, update manager will ask you if you want to upgrade
[09:38] <[zero] > ARRHHH :( it rebooted
[09:38] <vnoss> Dapper rc installed grub on my MBR without asking user, it's normal ?
[09:38] <tuxtheslacker> crimsun, no.
[09:38] <Blissex> UserName14: check '/etc/aliases' usually
[09:39] <x_or> Is anyone here using Apache2 with HTML::Mason modperl templating toolkit?
[09:39] <richard> jimmmmmy
[09:39] <tuxtheslacker> crimsun, they are not*
[09:40] <rockzman> amphi: gimme a hand
[09:40] <_grout> when dapper comming out midnight tonight or sometime tommroow?
[09:40] <rahonavis> dapper has not been released yet ?
[09:40] <gnomefreak> rahonavis: no
[09:40] <kspath_> !dapper
[09:40] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[09:41] <rockzman> amphi: running install
[09:41] <rockzman> error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)
[09:41] <gnomefreak> _grout: tomorrow some time no time set
[09:41] <_grout> k
[09:41] <rahonavis> 1st of june !  they are using suspense to keep us growing wild !
[09:41] <rockzman> amphi: it means i dont have python 2.4 insatlled?
[09:41] <sybariten> kspath_: hey, was Al Jourgensen aware of that he had taken a lot of drugs when writing that song
[09:41] <meheren> how do i burn a vcd??? i have an .avi file
[09:41] <_grout> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:41] <crimsun> tuxtheslacker: what about in /etc/hotplug.d/* ?
[09:41] <tuxtheslacker> we shoudl just have a script that runs every two seconds say !dapper.... hahahhaa!
[09:41] <kspath_> sybariten: offtopic
[09:41] <rockzman> gnomefreak: gimme a hand
[09:42] <_grout> how can i stop that?
[09:42] <drew_> how can I make my fat32 partition writable
[09:42] <kspath_> sybariten: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:42] <gnomefreak> rockzman: with what?
[09:42] <sybariten> kspath_: just my entrance
[09:42] <rockzman> gnomefreak: running install
[09:42] <MilesAttacca> Will Ubuntu install modem drivers, TCP/IP stacks, etc. as part of the installation process?
[09:42] <rockzman> error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)
[09:42] <rockzman> gnomefreak: it means i dont have python installed?
[09:42] <kspath_> sybariten: Just what?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> rockzman: you should have python installed
[09:42] <seth__> How do I start SSH in terminal??
[09:42] <tuxtheslacker> crimsun, none are there either.
[09:42] <davidhouse> hi guys. i have some xmodmap bindings i'd like to load automatically when my laptop boots. i have them in my ~/.xmodmaprc file, and http://paste.lisp.org/display/20672 is my ~/.xinitrc file, but it's not working; the bindings aren't loaded. any suggestions?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> rockzman: type python in terminal
[09:42] <rockzman> gnomefreak: yes, and i did check on synaptic it is
[09:42] <soundray> MilesAttacca: of course -- What's Linux without TCP/IP?
[09:42] <kspath_> seth__: ssh client or sshd?
[09:42] <rockzman> gnomefreak: ki
[09:42] <davidhouse> seth__: by typing ssh
[09:42] <crimsun> tuxtheslacker: loading them manually after boot works, though?
[09:42] <drew_> how can I make my fat32 drive writable
[09:43] <richard> hi
[09:43] <kspath_> seth__: man ssh
[09:43] <rockzman> there it goes gnomefreak how do i manually install a file .py now?
[09:43] <crimsun> soundray: there're always UDP, ICMP, SCTP, ...
[09:43] <tuxtheslacker> crimsun, there are no errors :-)
[09:43] <meheren> !vcd
[09:43] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, meheren
[09:43] <Larsson-Sweden> When trying to switch gtk2 themes with "switch2" , most of my themes does not work. I get this error message: /home/larsson/.gtkrc.tmp-0:2: Unable to find include file: "(null)"
[09:43] <richard>  how do i check my bandwith , i have 128kb adsl
[09:43] <tuxtheslacker> modprobe v4l2-common
[09:43] <MilesAttacca> I heard from a friend, also, that you can write to Windows-formatted floppies in Ubuntu, but Windows won't read a floppy that was first formatted in Ubuntu.
[09:43] <tuxtheslacker> it works.
[09:43] <gnomefreak> rockzman: you run them not install them to run them type python file.py
[09:43] <tuxtheslacker> Cicero_, ^^
[09:43] <meheren> does anyone know how to burn a vcd?
[09:43] <rockzman> gnomefreak: ok
[09:44] <tuxtheslacker> crimsun, ^^^^
[09:44] <soundray> MilesAttacca: it depends on the type of filesystem that you put on the floppy.
[09:44] <gnomefreak> if it has an installer it will install after running that
[09:44] <rockzman> gnomefreak: rockzman@ANDRE:~/Desktop/obmenu-1.0$ python setup.py
[09:44] <MilesAttacca> Ubuntu gives the option to format FAT:
[09:44] <rockzman> usage: setup.py [global_opts]  cmd1 [cmd1_opts]  [cmd2 [cmd2_opts]  ...] 
[09:44] <MilesAttacca> *?
[09:44] <seth__> How do I start SSH though....
[09:44] <meheren> i want to make a vcd that my cd/vcd/dvd player can read with an avi file how would i go about this?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> rockzman: that looks right
[09:44] <soundray> MilesAttacca: FAT will be read just fine in Windows.
[09:44] <kspath_> seth__: define what you mean by SSH ?
[09:44] <sybariten> kspath_: hadnt been in the chan for a day or so, felt that i wanted to make an impression upon entering.
[09:44] <rockzman> gnomefreak: it installed u mean?
[09:44] <tuxtheslacker> what ticks me off is that picasa just stopped running too :-(
[09:45] <meheren> seth_, ssh
[09:45] <seth__> Running SSH
[09:45] <tuxtheslacker> just like randomly.
[09:45] <[zero] > a little help with partitions anyone?
[09:45] <kspath_> sybariten: You made a bad one. Offtopic.
[09:45] <rockzman> gnomefreak: error: no commands supplied
[09:45] <gnomefreak> rockzman: what are you trying to install?
[09:45] <soundray> seth__: say exactly what you want to do.
[09:45] <meheren> seth_, type ssh then type the name or address of server
[09:45] <rockzman> gnomefreak: a menu configurator for ob
[09:45] <gnomefreak> rockzman: did it come as a tar?
[09:45] <seth__> Start SSH
[09:45] <MilesAttacca> Also, is there a good guide to Linux commands? I've been rotted by Windows. :D
[09:45] <seth__> Like SSHD
[09:45] <kspath_> seth__: ssh client is ssh  ; whereis ssh    ssh server is sshd    ls -la /etc/init.d/ssh*
[09:45] <richard> can someone help? i d/load  skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb to my desktop and opened a terminal
[09:45] <mzuverink> What time do they usually realse the official versions, and what time zone?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> ubotut ell MilesAttacca -about cli
[09:45] <richard> but i cant install it
[09:45] <soundray> seth__: be a bit more precise, and avoid the term ssh please.
[09:45] <rockzman> gnomefreak: yea
[09:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell MilesAttacca -about cli
[09:46] <sybariten> so, i have this PPC Ubuntu install, its a 400 or so MHz iMac. It sucks ass. Thats taken for granted ofcourse, but lately i've noticed that it gets kind of sluggish (??) with some terminals on one desktop and firefox with some tabs, on another desktop. The question is: can i replace gnome, and get a noticable difference in "snappiness" ??
[09:46] <gnomefreak> rockzman: did you inpack the tar?
[09:46] <rockzman> gnomefreak: sure :P
[09:46] <czambran> mzuverink, 00:00:00 UTC/GMT  06/01/06
[09:46] <gnomefreak> unpack*
[09:46] <rockzman> yea
[09:46] <gnomefreak> rockzman: you did?
[09:46] <soundray> seth__: are you trying to make your computer accessible from a remote machine?
[09:46] <mzuverink> czambran:thanks
[09:46] <rockzman> gnomefreak: yea i did
[09:46] <richard> HELP!
[09:46] <MilesAttacca> I think if I can learn DOS commands I can get Linux eventually, of course. :)
[09:46] <gnomefreak> rockzman: now cd into the new file it made
[09:46] <xukun> can some one tell me why this is? "Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it."
[09:46] <soundray> !helpme
[09:46] <MilesAttacca> Thanks gnomefreak.
[09:46] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[09:46] <gnomefreak> MilesAttacca: yw
[09:47] <mzuverink> So I could probably hold of on downloading the release candidate then huh...
[09:47] <rockzman> gnomefreak: directory u mean ^^ ok im in
[09:47] <[zero] > Can anyone tell me what to do with the partitions please? I did it before but GRUB Error 18 came up so I'd like someone to tell me what to do please :)??
[09:47] <loststar4545> hello  i need to use a live cd  of  ubuntu to do  some things but live cd  gives me  the blank screen with cursor  how do io   start  the live  cd  to terminal  only
[09:47] <czambran> xukun,  you need libdvd2
[09:47] <soundray> [zero] : do you have a big hard disk in a fairly old computer?
[09:47] <[zero] > 40gb in an old computer
[09:47] <xukun> czambran, thanks a lot
[09:47] <richard> i d/load  skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb amd opened a terminal, but i still cant installthe file
[09:47] <[zero] > ubuntu will be the only os on it
[09:48] <gnomefreak> rockzman: that command should run it/install it depending what what it does
[09:48] <sybariten> and if the difference in speed/lightness is directly proportional to how big and featurefilled the window manager is, what would be a good compromise? Its not that i need to run nautilus or so, but i tend to like the feature of different desktops.
[09:48] <soundray> [zero] : try setting the LBA option for hard disk access in the BIOS setup.
[09:48] <rockzman> gnomefreak: mmm just python setup.py ?
[09:48] <sybariten> plus i like the gnome terminal ... but perhaps there are alternatives that can be run in other WMs
[09:48] <Hackmo> hm, i'm having a problem with amarok
[09:48] <rockzman> gnomefreak: in the menu configurator README file says "python setup.py install" as root
[09:48] <gnomefreak> if that is what the readme or install files tells you to run can i have the site for this please
[09:48] <[zero] > soundray im in the installation now
[09:48] <Hackmo> it says that it can't mount my ipod although when I do it manually it tells me that it is already mounted
[09:49] <gnomefreak> rockzman: than type sudo python setup.py install
[09:49] <soundray> [zero] : I don't know what you mean.
[09:49] <rockzman> gnomefreak: yea the first error i did paste
[09:49] <to0om> is the final release of dapper tomorrow? or is it postponed some days?
[09:49] <[zero] > Im at the stage where you choose the partitions
[09:49] <rockzman> gnomefreak: nvm nvm =D
[09:49] <rockzman> gnomefreak: it works ty =)
[09:49] <kspath_> !dapper
[09:49] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[09:49] <czambran> to0om,  it is in a little over 4 hours
[09:49] <[zero] > I have formatted since the old instalation when the GRUB error hapened
[09:49] <gnomefreak> rockzman:ok
[09:49] <to0om> great czambran :)
[09:50] <gnomefreak> czambran: where did you hear that?
[09:50] <rockzman> gnomefreak: can you help me to locate my menu.xml of my ob? i installed it using synaptic
[09:50] <czambran> gnomefreak, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/182
[09:50] <tomasz> hi - what package do I have to install to get access to the programming interface of XDR library ?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> rockzman: use locate
[09:50] <soundray> [zero] : create a small partition at the beginning of the disk, ca. 200 MB. This will be mounted as /boot
[09:51] <philuk86> hi, ive just installed a new adaptec scsi card and connected a disk to the first controller. What do i need to do in ubuntu to format it?
[09:51] <rockzman> gnomefreak: how do i create a file?
[09:51] <hura> !audigy
[09:51] <ubotu> it has been said that audigy is muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.
[09:51] <gnomefreak> rockzman: mkdir
[09:51] <soundray> [zero] : create a root partition of ca. 8GB. This will be mounted as /
[09:51] <xukun> czambran, where can I find that, libdvd2
[09:51] <gnomefreak> czambran: you might want to go to that page again
[09:51] <xukun> ?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> xukun: libdvdcss
[09:52] <soundray> [zero] : create home partition occupying most of the space, leaving about 1 GB. This will be mounted as /home
[09:52] <drew_> I need help I got a fat32 partition its already mounted but I cant write to it and I want to write to it becuase It has some files I need to edit
[09:52] <Eroick> Does anyone here use Ubuntu but with a different WM than gnome or KDE? My computer is a bit slow for those, so I was wondering if I could easily migrate ubuntu to xfce. Any suggestions?
[09:52] <soundray> [zero] : finally, create a swap partition in the remaining free space - ca. 1 GB (max).
[09:52] <czambran> gnomefreak, huh?
[09:52] <[zero] > thankx soundray :D
[09:52] <gnomefreak> czambran: nothing there about it
[09:52] <kspath_> Eroick: apt-cache search xfce
[09:52] <soundray> Eroick: very easy - install the xubuntu-desktop package and its dependencies.
[09:53] <sybariten> Eroick: hehe are you echoing my questions
[09:53] <czambran> xukun, here is a complete reference: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:53] <czambran> gnomefreak, about the release?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> yep
[09:53] <kspath_> soundray: I did not need to do that. I simply have several window managers and just choose one.
[09:53] <czambran> I see it
[09:53] <void^> drew_: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[09:53] <czambran> Ubuntu 6.06 Release
[09:53] <czambran> Start: 2006-06-01 00:00
[09:53] <czambran> Timezone: Etc/GMT
[09:53] <Eroick> soundray: should I do a full install or server install? and is the destop package the famous porno wallpaper package :P?
[09:54] <czambran> gnomefreak, u didn't see that?
[09:54] <soundray> Eroick: do a full install, unless hard disk is scarce, in which case server will be fine. There is no porn in Ubuntu now, and there never was IMO.
[09:55] <krang> hey hey, does anyone know how to change my default media player from totem to mplayer? I had a poke around but couldn't really find anything
[09:55] <[zero] > soundray how do i make the last one to a swap partition?
[09:55] <Eroick> soundray: heh, ok
[09:55] <gnomefreak> yeah i read it wrong
[09:56] <czambran> no problem
[09:56] <seth__> I am getting this error...
[09:56] <soundray> [zero] : there should be an option to make it type swap or 82 (hex code)
[09:56] <seth__> root@bob:~#  /etc/init.d/ssh start
[09:56] <seth__>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 
[09:56] <seth__> root@bob:~#
[09:56] <czambran> gnomefreak,  it happens to the best of us
[09:56] <kspath_>  /ignore seth__
[09:56] <kspath_> sorry
[09:56] <[zero] > soundray nevermind, Iv done it
[09:56] <czambran> xukun, did the link help u?
[09:56] <NoUse> seth__ you need to use sudo
[09:56] <seth__> WTF?
[09:56] <seth__> I did...
[09:56] <seth__> Sudo -s
[09:57] <soundray> seth__: it is probably running already. Test with ssh localhost
[09:57] <woodwizzle> when does dapper come out? midnight?
[09:57] <kspath_> !dapper
[09:57] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[09:57] <kspath_> woodwizzle: no promises, released June 1st.
[09:57] <xukun> czambran, not yet becouse I already had that package installed
[09:57] <Hohlraum> release is tomorrow right?
[09:57] <czambran> oops
[09:58] <kspath_> Hohlraum: read
[09:58] <czambran> xukun, are u using dapper?
[09:58] <NoUse> seth__ try /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[09:58] <kspath_> !tell Hohlraum about dapper
[09:58] <seth__> Thanks...
[09:58] <Hohlraum> yeah i just saw that thanks
[09:58] <seth__> SSH working...
[09:58] <xukun> czambran, yes sorry that I didnt mention that
[09:58] <rockzman> gnomefreak: can you help my program didnt run
[09:58] <Flannel> gnomefreak, think you could put something nice about dapper in the topic, so we can stop with all the questions?
[09:58] <[zero] > Do the Ubuntu updates happen automaticly if its already installed?
[09:58] <Eroick> soundray: what is in that package anyway?
[09:58] <rockzman> gnomefreak: can i paste you what happened?
[09:59] <gnomefreak> rockzman: use pastebin
[09:59] <soundray> Eroick: which one?
[09:59] <rockzman> gnomefreak: yea sure
[09:59] <Flannel> [zero] : not automatically, but it asks you automatically.
[09:59] <soundray> Eroick: xubuntu-desktop?
[09:59] <Eroick> soundray: xubuntu.. yeah
[09:59] <gnomefreak> Flannel: give me a min or few
[09:59] <Flannel> [zero] : just like normal updates (update managers)
[09:59] <rockzman> gnomefreak: tell its address again (of pastebin)
[09:59] <lnx^> so will the final dapper be released in some hours? or some days?
[09:59] <seth__> ubuntu is 1337
[09:59] <Hohlraum> Flannel: according to the RC notes update manager isn't run automatically
[09:59] <NoUse> !tell rockzman about pastebin
[09:59] <soundray> Eroick: nothing, actually - it's a metapackage that only has dependencies.
[09:59] <czambran> xukun,  did u follow all the instructions on the page?
[09:59] <lnx^> I'm thinking of replacing this debian unstable with it as soon as it's released
[10:00] <kspath_> !tell lnx^ about dapper
[10:00] <Eroick> soundray: ok, then what does it achieve?
[10:00] <soundray> Eroick: you can safely remove it when all its dependencies are in place.
[10:00] <gnomefreak> ty NoUse
[10:00] <NoUse> gnomefreak np
[10:00] <soundray> Eroick: it makes sure you get a complete xfce-based desktop environment.
[10:00] <Eroick> soundray: ok, thanks
[10:00] <lnx^> kspath_: I see, thanks
[10:00] <sybariten> and it looks like it was the setting /set window_history ON or something
[10:00] <sybariten> uh wrong chan
[10:01] <lotusleaf> I've got a fever... and the only thing that can cure it is DAPPER!
[10:01] <xukun> czambran, I think so, but I think that I need to install totem-xine xine-ui package can you agree with me?
[10:01] <gnomefreak> Flannel: it already does it says for discusstion on dapper to see #ubuntu+1 ;)
[10:01] <sybariten> whats the difference between doing sudo aptitude update, and sudo apt-get update ?
[10:01] <rockzman> NoUse gnomefreak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14925
[10:01] <rockzman> Check it
[10:02] <gnomefreak> sybariten: nothing with that command really
[10:02] <czambran> xukun,  it will give it a try
[10:02] <czambran> *would
[10:02] <gnomefreak> rockzman: bad script?
[10:02] <xukun> czambran, thanks
[10:02] <rockzman> gnomefreak: of the program u say?
[10:02] <sybariten> gnomefreak: ok
[10:02] <gnomefreak> sybariten: aptitude handles packages/depends better IMHO
[10:03] <Dottore> hello, all !!!
[10:03] <sybariten> gnomefreak:
[10:03] <gnomefreak> sybariten: the update command isnt gonna make a difference iirf
[10:03] <gnomefreak> iirc
[10:03] <rockzman> gnomefreak: what is wrong the program i downloaded from freshmeat or my python?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> rockzman: yes
[10:03] <xiko> hello guys, just installed ubuntu and It had a problem while installing the files. I said to kept it going and now Synaptic isnt working. I could do apt-get update/upgrade. My question is, how can I install Synaptics from scratch
[10:03] <sybariten> gnomefreak: ok ,,,  btw isnt aptitude that console version of the X package manager? (looosely)
[10:03] <gnomefreak> rockzman: im thinking its the script/ program itsself
[10:03] <gnomefreak> sybariten: yes
[10:03] <Dottore> someone know how to get Xorg and an old ATI 3D rage IIc to cooperate ?
[10:03] <Eroick> is there something like xubuntu-desktop that lets you install fluxbox?
[10:04] <NoUse> xiko doesn synaptic give you any error messages?
[10:04] <stefan> which command can I use to resolve an ip to a hostname or vice versa?
[10:04] <rockzman> gnomefreak: bad i need a menu editor in openbox badly =\
[10:04] <xiko> NoUse, no it doesnt. It just dont open
[10:04] <CokeNCode> stefan host
[10:04] <stefan> thx
[10:04] <NoUse> xiko run it from the console
[10:04] <seth__> Is there a was to disable the auto mounting and then reenable it again??
[10:04] <Dottore> hello ?
[10:05] <seth__> Hey
[10:05] <gnomefreak> rockzman: you can do that from the config file  but i dont remember how/what file off top of my head
[10:05] <kspath_> stefan: dig host nslookup
[10:05] <NoUse> !tell Dottore about patience
[10:05] <Dottore> OK NoUse
[10:05] <gnomefreak> rockzman: theres a fluxbox guide it should work with black open flux bvoxes
[10:05] <xiko> NoUse,  ty, the noob here didnt su first ._.
[10:05] <seth__> Does anyone know how to turn the automount off??
[10:05] <Dottore> I'll wait....
[10:05] <sybariten> gnomefreak: ok .. i'm surprised i had it. I installed it once on another machine and was thrilled, but that was Damn Small or something. It was a great way of being able to see installed packages, over SSH and such
[10:05] <CokeNCode> !tell CokeNCode about patience
[10:06] <rockzman> gnomefreak: how i uninstall it aswell?
[10:06] <seth__> Could someone please help me turn off automount??
[10:06] <Canard> Hello. I am trying to renew the IP address on an ubuntu machine from a dhcp server. I am typing in dhcpcd -k into the terminal, but I am told that command is not found. How do I renew the IP address?
[10:06] <phatmonkey> please help: upgraded to dapper RC, locked up on "Starting PCMCIA services". i boot up into recovery mode, it again locks up on the same thing with the message "Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found". forum or google search provides no help.
[10:06] <gnomefreak> rockzman: its not installed i dont think
[10:06] <CokeNCode> yeh, how do you uninstall programs in ubuntu
[10:06] <gnomefreak> phatmonkey: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[10:06] <NoUse> CokeNCode synaptic
[10:06] <[zero] > :) i hope this installation works
[10:06] <phatmonkey> i've tried booting up with init=/bin/sh, but I can't do anything with apt because of the read only fs
[10:06] <phatmonkey> ok
[10:06] <NoUse> CokeNCode or sudo apt-get remove <program>
[10:06] <CokeNCode> NoUse thanks
[10:06] <kspath_> !tell phatmonkey about dapper
[10:06] <sybariten> "E: Couldn't find package xubuntu-desktop
[10:06] <seth__> And what dev a firewire hdd wouuld be
[10:07] <gnomefreak> sybariten: make sure universe repo is enabled
[10:07] <sybariten> gnomefreak: OK... but i should mention that i am on PPC
[10:07] <crazy_penguin> night all!
[10:07] <gnomefreak> sybariten: not real sure that matters witht he xubuntu package
[10:08] <sybariten> gnomefreak:  ok ... well i had these two lines (among others) in my sources.list         deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[10:08] <gnomefreak> sybariten: apt-cache policy xubuntu-desktop  it will show what repo its in for you
[10:08] <echelon-h> how can i run a vnc server?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> sybariten: are you on hoary?
[10:09] <sybariten> gnomefreak: thanks!  (btw pasting is a bit sketchy, to say the least, here)
[10:09] <rockzman> gnomefreak: do you think its possible to a file that is in source forge be with bad script?
[10:09] <sybariten> gnomefreak: i can never remember! whats the command to check again
[10:09] <gnomefreak> sybariten: lsb_release -a
[10:09] <sybariten> gnomefreak: thanks
[10:09] <gnomefreak> rockzman: yes
[10:09] <echelon-h> how can i run a vnc server?
[10:09] <thespore> I just dist-upgraded to dapper, now i cannot start x server.  says it cannot load libGLcore.so, module GLcore, and module nvidia (no drivers available, no screens found).. how can i correct this?
[10:09] <rockzman> gnomefreak: so im fucked hehe thank you mate
[10:09] <Pesa> n8
[10:09] <kspath_> !tell thespore about dapper
[10:10] <Mysta_> !vnc
[10:10] <ubotu> methinks vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[10:10] <gnomefreak> sybariten: i dont think you can get xubuntu-desktop on hoary i would upgrade to breezy anyway
[10:10] <aLPHa_LeaK> or rather dapper
[10:10] <gnomefreak> ubotut ell rockzman -about lanuage
[10:10] <Canard> Hello. I am trying to renew the IP address on an ubuntu machine from a dhcp server. I am typing in dhcpcd -k into the terminal, but I am told that command is not found. How do I renew the IP address?
[10:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell rockzman -about language
[10:10] <revmouse> Canard, dhclient
[10:10] <[zero] > eeeeekk
[10:11] <sybariten> gnomefreak: Codename:       hoary              and      W: Unable to locate package xubuntu-desktop
[10:11] <gnomefreak> sybariten: upgrade to breezy please
[10:11] <gnomefreak> sybariten: they didnt release xubuntu-desktop until breezy iirc
[10:11] <thespore> can you have it "tell me about dapper" in the main window, i don't know how to view queries with this client
[10:11] <NoUse> !tell thespore about ubotu
[10:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu thespore about dapper
[10:11] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:12] <gnomefreak> tell even
[10:12] <sybariten> gnomefreak: ok .. are there threads on it in the forum? and am i likely to find PPC-specific info on that issue ... coz if its one thing i've learned its that you are always a "special case" when you are on Mac
[10:12] <thespore> :q
[10:12] <NoUse> sybariten the issue isn't related to PPC, its simply that you have an old version of ubuntu
[10:13] <drew_> okay anybody in here know how I can get my fat32 partition so I can write to it
[10:13] <sybariten> NoUse: eye know ... but _when_ i upgrade that version, there will probably be special cases since i'm on PPC
[10:13] <Bugs> zero : how's progress
[10:13] <knoppix> hey got a question... how do i mount my harddrive with knoppix?
[10:13] <kspath_> knoppix: /join #knoppix
[10:13] <knoppix> i screwed up my ubuntu install and i need to get it remounted so i can fix it
[10:13] <amadeo> -es+
[10:13] <NoUse> sybariten I doubt it
[10:14] <Bugs> [zero] : how's progress
[10:14] <CokeNCode> can i transfer files using an ssh connection ?
[10:14] <kspath_> CokeNCode: man ssh
[10:14] <phpsr> CokeNCode: use sftp
[10:14] <shedi> CokeNCode, yes you can
[10:15] <kspath_> CokeNCode: search tunnel, scp, sftp
[10:15] <NoUse> !ssh
[10:15] <[zero] > Bugs its gone further than before, I have installed and its installing packages now
[10:15] <ubotu> it has been said that ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[10:15] <CokeNCode> thanks shedi
[10:15] <xiko> I dont seem to configure my abnt-2 keyboard right, and in preferences keyboard it doesnt have the option, even if i choose brazil and microsoft internet keyboard. Where can i find it
[10:15] <xiko> ?
[10:15] <drew_> how can I upgrade to 6.06
[10:15] <NoUse> !tell drew_ about upgrade
[10:15] <abeck> how do I apt vnc using tightvnc?
[10:15] <Bugs> [zero] :  so all's well, so far ?
[10:15] <seanh> CokeNCode - also try nautilus ssh://unsername@host/path.to/folder
[10:16] <[zero] > Bugs yeh it is
[10:16] <drew_> thanks
[10:16] <[zero] > Haha Iv opened the side of the box and had a desk fan on blowing into it incase it was due to heat
[10:16] <NoUse> abeck vnc server or client?
[10:16] <shedi> can you mount a remote directory using the ssh protocol
[10:17] <drew_> hey can anybody help me so I can write to my fat32 partition
[10:17] <Bugs> [zero] :  excellent.  I just wanted to know before I bug out of here.  I think ubuntu is the best distro I have ever tried and feel compelled to help others as much as i have been helped by this community...it is awesome...
[10:17] <kspath_> shedi: search engine  keywords    mount remote ssh  ?
[10:17] <[zero] > yeah, my friend (who hasnt ever used linux properly :S) told me to use it :D
[10:17] <kspath_> shedi: apt-cache search ssh
[10:17] <shedi> kspath_, just in case you knew
[10:18] <Mysta_> hey, can i show line numbers in nano? i did a man nano, but came up short
[10:18] <Bugs> [zero] :  cheers mate...check u on the flip side...
[10:18] <Reon> any idea what time the dapper iso's will be available ?
[10:18] <shedi> it most surely can be done
[10:18] <NoUse> Reon when they are on the website, they will be available
[10:18] <grantb> Hello room!
[10:19] <Mysta_> hello
[10:19] <kspath_> shedi: shfs sshfs and many other interesting things can be found via apt-cache search keyword
[10:19] <Reon> NoUse, that I could have figured out for myself ;)
[10:19] <drew_> okay can somebody help me
[10:19] <NoUse> Reon you are about the 1200th person thats asked that today, sorry
[10:19] <drew_> i have asked tons of times
[10:20] <NoUse> !tell drew_ about patience
[10:20] <Mysta_> lol
[10:20] <Reon> NoUse, no problem. I will have a look tomorrow
[10:20] <Flannel> Reon: once it's released, normal update manager will ask you if you want to upgrade
[10:20] <drew_> im 13 almost 14 so I have no patience wat so ever
[10:20] <grantb> !tell NoUse about manners
[10:20] <drew_> !tell everyone about teenagers
[10:20] <fabio> I need your help! Ubuntu 5.10 and ATI 9600/9700 radeon on my PC. 3D acceleration doesn't work. Why? (I have installed restricted modules, xorg-fglrx-drivers...)
[10:20] <grantb> ROFL Didn't realize!
[10:21] <Reon> Flannel, doing a clean install.
[10:21] <Alecx> hi all
[10:21] <UserName14> I removed a file from a package after it was uninstalled now when i reinstall it it does not put install that file and the file is missing how do i force it to install everything
[10:21] <Alecx> i need help
[10:21] <Flannel> Reon: alright, then you'll have to wait for it to be released, then you can download it from ubuntu.com (but probably be better to use the torrent, server might be hosed)
[10:22] <[zero] > I have a question about this update which is coming up.. What happens? Will it just download the update and install in the gui or will I have to download the ISO again?
[10:22] <sam__> UserName14: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package-name>
[10:22] <Reon> bye
[10:22] <Alecx> i'am looking for a tutorial to use ubuntu
[10:22] <UserName14> sam__, :) thanks i was doing remove  + install
[10:22] <drew_> gosh I will ask one more time sorry about the caps but I need the help! I NEED HELP I NEED TO BE ABLE TO WRITE TO MY FAT32 PARTITIONS PLZ HELP ME
[10:23] <fabio> ...hmmm, I can't use 3D accel....ATI 9600/97000 radeon...help! help me!
[10:23] <KenSentMe> can i run ssh server to listen at multiple ports?
[10:23] <seth> I do not understand this fdisk how can I format firewire drives??
[10:23] <kbrooks> drew_:
[10:23] <kbrooks> !fstab
[10:23] <drew_> i did
[10:23] <kbrooks> ...
[10:23] <DSteele> notice drew read the ubuntu guide section on fat32
[10:23] <kbrooks> uh
[10:23] <drew_> some guy told me some stuff to put in it and it totalled messed up the partition
[10:23] <kbrooks> Seveas: where did ubotu go?
[10:23] <kbrooks> drew_: no, it didnt
[10:24] <Seveas> kbrooks, here 
[10:24] <kbrooks> !fstab
[10:24] <seth> How do I format a firewire drive??
[10:24] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions. See also !partitions
[10:24] <drew_> it said had5 has a bad block
[10:24] <drew_> I opened fstab in gedit
[10:24] <nickm__> hi, are universe repos available by default?
[10:24] <kbrooks> drew_: pastebin fstab
[10:24] <DSteele> http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountfat
[10:24] <Flannel> !tell nickm__ about repositories
[10:24] <drew_> and some person in offtopic told me how
[10:24] <Seveas> DSteele, ubuntuguide.org is crap
[10:24] <apokryphos> nickm__: no
[10:24] <NoUse> !ubuntuguide
[10:24] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[10:24] <nickm__> thanks apokryphos
[10:24] <[zero] > 
[10:24] <DSteele> yes but it is still correct in this
[10:25] <ben__> can some1 help me?
[10:25] <NoUse> ben__ if you ask a question we can try
[10:25] <ben__> when i try to install wine for ubuntu breezy and put in the address thing for the repositorie in synaptic package manager then refresh it gives an error
[10:26] <drew_> I dont know what paste bin is
[10:26] <ben__> it says the address was 404 not found
[10:26] <NoUse> !tell drew_ about pastebin
[10:26] <xiko> where can I get information to configure my ABNT-2 keyboard?
[10:26] <NoUse> ben__ what url are you putting in?
[10:26] <ben__> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt breezy main
[10:26] <seth> How can I format a firewire drive???
[10:26] <seth> In Ubuntu
[10:26] <seth> ...
[10:26] <lmh> hi all
[10:26] <seth> :(
[10:27] <lmh> just installed dapper on my samsung x20 laptop (natural resolution = 1400x1050).
[10:27] <seth> Can someone please help me??
[10:27] <seth> With formating??
[10:27] <lmh> How cani set up grub to run the console with that resolution?
[10:27] <lmh> already tried with vga=777
[10:28] <lmh> and other values
[10:28] <andrejkw> Hey guys, after installing KDE on my Ubuntu installation, my Gnome fonts turned big. How can I fix this? Screenshot: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3441/fontproblem5fb.png
[10:28] <hura> !w32codec
[10:28] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[10:28] <ben__> some1 please help
[10:28] <NoUse> ben__ be patient please
[10:28] <drew_> 3 days ago somebody somebody showed me bt my system had to be reinstalled thats why I asked
[10:29] <Alecx> anyone know xgl ?
[10:29] <drew_> and its annoying when people say read this it has it
[10:29] <drew_> when it dosent
[10:29] <NoUse> !xgl
[10:29] <ubotu> I heard xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[10:29] <Alecx> ok =)
[10:29] <UserName14> how do you force apt to reinstall ALL files from the deb apt-get install --reinstall packagename is not working for me in the way i need it to work
[10:29] <Alecx> thanks
[10:29] <NoUse> ben__ that url works on my system
[10:30] <carthik> the dapper-foo dvds are just the live and install cd put together right?
[10:30] <drew_> how do I know on pastebin when somebody has an answer
[10:30] <ben__> i went to the wine channel and told about the problem
[10:30] <lmh> nobody an idea?
[10:30] <Sp4rKy> darksteel, t'es la ?
[10:30] <carthik> or does it have extra packages not on the cd? what's the size of the dvds?
[10:30] <Flannel> carthik: well, liveCD is the install CD now.  but, DVDs have additional packages on them
[10:30] <h3sp4wn> seth: look thru the output of dmesg | less in a console (and see if you see any reference to sda)
[10:30] <NoUse> drew_ you have to give us the URL
[10:30] <ben__> they tried it out and told me to ask why X app doesnt install in the ubuntu channel
[10:30] <drew_> oh
[10:30] <sybariten> console apps like aptitude almost give me an erection
[10:31] <drew_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14927
[10:31] <CokeNCode> sybariten try running them remotely :)
[10:31] <rambleOn> hey guys
[10:31] <CokeNCode> over ssh
[10:31] <ben__> i just installed linux this morning so i dont know what could be wrong with it
[10:31] <sybariten> CokeNCode: you mean as in getting down or up the hardon?
[10:31] <rambleOn> quick question, with ubuntu do I want to install wxwidgets for x11 or for GTK ?
[10:32] <NoUse> drew_ under the <options> column for /dev/hda5 add umask=0000, that will give anyone logged into your system write permissions
[10:32] <CokeNCode> sybariten up
[10:32] <Kyral_FreeBSD> there is a difference?
[10:32] <NoUse> drew_ so it will say 'defaults,umask=0000'
[10:32] <drew_> can u pm me
[10:32] <drew_> nouse
[10:32] <drew_> plz
[10:32] <UserName14> how do you force apt to reinstall ALL files from the deb apt-get install --reinstall packagename is not working for me in the way i need it to work
[10:32] <sybariten> CokeNCode: yeah, i agree ...  the ability to run them remotely is really one of the reasons why i like console stuff that still can have some gui-feeling (with curses)
[10:33] <carthik> Does anyone know where I can find a DVD torrent that is fast - for dapper?
[10:33] <NoUse> drew_ no sorry, what do you need?
[10:33] <seth> Is there a Ubuntu utility for formating firewire...
[10:33] <seth> ?
[10:34] <skk> Hi! I am having problems while installing truecrypt debian package for ubuntu 5.10..
[10:34] <L^sse> When Dapper is released and where can I get it? Is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade enough or should configure apt's repos?
[10:34] <NoUse> UserName14 UserName14 sudo apt-get --purge remove <package> and then reinstall
[10:34] <seth> Or what command would I use..
[10:34] <sybariten> ok, apart from aptitude ...  which i really dont master yet ...  is there a way to use apt-get to list which occurences of *firefox* i have installed?  I am told here in some upgrade notes that i should remove "firefox" if i have "mozilla-firefox".
[10:34] <ben__> NoUse: any more help?
[10:34] <sybariten> note: asterisks ... as in getting many results
[10:34] <luis__> is there a chance for dapper to be released tonight? or only tomorrow?
[10:34] <seth> NoUse...
[10:34] <seth> Can you help??
[10:34] <NoUse> ben__ it sounds like a local problem, that URL works for me, double check that you entered it properly
[10:34] <simian___> i have messed up my /etc/apache2/ports.conf   can someone tell me what the default contents should be, I think it's just one line of text
[10:34] <philuk86> UserName14: have your tried purging it then installing it again?
[10:35] <h3sp4wn> simian__: Listen 80
[10:35] <Belathor> luis__: Dapper is released in 3 hours
[10:35] <NoUse> seth you format a firewire drive like you would any other drive
[10:35] <ben__> i copied and pasted it exactly
[10:35] <skk> dselect needs to remobe phpmyadmin, but the removal process fails due following error : " Removing phpmyadmin ...
[10:35] <skk> /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found"..
[10:35] <simian___> h3sp4wn: thanks
[10:35] <NoUse> ben__ I don't know then
[10:35] <seth> What dev though??
[10:35] <UserName14> philuk86, I just purged now becuase of noUse's message and now its all working (i iddnt know how to purge till now )
[10:35] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[10:35] <Ypsy> Hello all:)
[10:35] <seth> What command??
[10:36] <seth> I have never done it...
[10:36] <ben__> wtf
[10:36] <NoUse> seth what fs do you want?
[10:36] <seth> Hold on
[10:36] <drew_> ok nouse I still cant write to it
[10:36] <NoUse> drew_ did you remount it ?
[10:36] <seth> UFS please
[10:36] <ben__> wtf
[10:37] <ben__> you used this url? deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt breezy main
[10:37] <seth> And I would like to RAID the,
[10:37] <NoUse> ben__ yes
[10:37] <seth> them...
[10:37] <drew_> yea after I edited it and I umounted it then mounted it
[10:37] <NoUse> drew_ pastebin the output of 'mount'
[10:38] <drew_> where do i get mount
[10:38] <drew_> or the output of it
[10:38] <seth> I would like to RAID two firewire drive and then format them...
[10:38] <ben__> linux is gay
[10:38] <NoUse> drew_ the output of it
[10:38] <drew_> output of what the termial
[10:38] <NoUse> ben__ your issue is with the wine people, not ubuntu
[10:38] <NoUse> seth I don't know about ufs
[10:39] <Mary_> hi guys, im trying to install ubuntu on my pc i have in the living room using an s-video cable to my television with an ati 8500. but when i start the install, i think it goes into a refresh rate over 60hz and my television goes on the fritz, i couldnt find a boot option to have command line only or to select the refresh rate, any suggestions
[10:39] <sybariten> how do i use apt-get to search for installed packages ?
[10:39] <ben__> wait after it says 404 error it says
[10:39] <NoUse> sybariten apt-cache search <key>
[10:39] <ben__> warning the following problems were found on your system:
[10:39] <drew_> what exactly do u want nouse
[10:39] <ben__> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://wine.budgetdedicated.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/wine.budgetdedicated.com_apt_dists_breezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:39] <czambran> ben__,  why do u say that?
[10:39] <NoUse> drew_ the output of the command 'mount'
[10:39] <seth> mac-fdisk - Apple disk partition manipulation tool
[10:39] <seth> pmac-fdisk - fdisk partition manipulation tool for PowerPC
[10:39] <czambran> ben__, what are u trying to do?
[10:39] <TiG4> Has anyone been able to figure out how to share music to an Xbox360 in Ubuntu?
[10:39] <seth> Which one??
[10:39] <ben__> czambran: read what ive been saying
[10:39] <NoUse> ben__ did you reload synaptic after adding the repo?
[10:40] <ben__> yes
[10:40] <skk> Hi, how could I fix this error: While removing phpmyadmin with dselect, the removal process fails due following error : " Removing phpmyadmin ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found".
[10:40] <ben__> thats when it gives me the error
[10:40] <NoUse> ben__ run 'sudo apt-get update'
[10:40] <seth> I need to know how to use the UFS on the drives..
[10:40] <czambran> ben__, I am trying to help u, if you can't repeat what u need that is your loss
[10:40] <luis__> Belathor: 3 hours?? cool, but where did you see that?
[10:40] <Belathor> luis__http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
[10:40] <TiG4> Has anyone been able to figure out how to share music to an  Xbox360 in Ubuntu?
[10:40] <NoUse> !tell TiG4 about repeat
[10:41] <Mewshi> hi there!
[10:41] <Belathor> luis__: It's under "Upcoming events"
[10:41] <ben__> NoUse: it gives the same error it just looks different
[10:41] <drew_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14928  here ya go nouse
[10:41] <ben__> Err http://wine.budgetdedicated.com breezy/main Packages
[10:41] <ben__>   404 Not Found
[10:41] <NoUse> ben__ you have a network issue that we can't fix
[10:41] <Mewshi> is there any way i can get enlightenment on ubuntu?
[10:41] <ben__> Fetched 3B in 0s (5B/s)
[10:41] <ben__> Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/breezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:41] <ben__> Reading package lists... Done
[10:41] <ben__> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://wine.budgetdedicated.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/wine.budgetdedicated.com_apt_dists_breezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:41] <ben__> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:41] <ben__> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:42] <NoUse> ben DON'T paste!
[10:42] <ben__> y not?
[10:42] <NoUse> ben__ you just flooded the channel
[10:42] <NoUse> !tell ben__ about flood
[10:42] <gnomefreak> ben__: comment out that repo than run apt-get update
[10:42] <kspath_> Mewshi: apt-cache search enlightenment
[10:42] <MTecknology> How can I remove OpenOffice.org completely and install just OO2.org
[10:42] <Mewshi> yes, i know.  it's not in there
[10:42] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: on breezy?
[10:42] <void^> ben__: the answer is: they don't have 64bit binaries there.
[10:42] <drew_> nouse http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14928 thats the output of 'mount'
[10:43] <MTecknology> gnomefreak, dapper
[10:43] <MTecknology> o
[10:43] <kspath_> Mewshi: What is not in where?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: dapper has OOo2 already
[10:43] <MTecknology> :S
[10:43] <luis__> Belathor: I'd like to see that, can you provide me a link? nothing is found under 'search' using those keywords
[10:43] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: it just changed names
[10:43] <sybariten> NoUse: need to search locally, for what i have installed .... not for what is available for download
[10:43] <MTecknology> ok
[10:43] <MTecknology> ty
[10:43] <ben__> wait so your saying I cant run wine on my system?
[10:43] <Mewshi> enlightenment is not in there
[10:43] <NoUse> sybariten dpkg -l will output all packages and their states
[10:43] <NoUse> drew_ what message do you get when you try to write to /media/hda5
[10:43] <drew_> I cant
[10:44] <drew_> it just says u dont have permissions
[10:44] <gnomefreak> drew_: use sudo
[10:44] <drew_> then what gnome
[10:44] <void^> ben__: did you read the website? winehq.com? quote: "Currently, we only have i386 binary packages available. If you do not use an i386 architecture, or wish to compile the package in a special or optimized way, you can build the wine package using the source repository instead. To do this, ..."
[10:44] <MTecknology> Is it possible to fully boot and switch between 2 operating systems
[10:44] <Mewshi> enlightenmemnt isn't in apt
[10:44] <NoUse> gnomefreak he shouldn't have to, its mounted umask=0000
[10:44] <gnomefreak> drew_: to get permissions use sudo
[10:44] <drew_> yea but thats only in termianl
[10:44] <drew_> terminal
[10:45] <bsdfox> how can I get my system to not autoload the madwifi modules on boot? I want it to use the wired NIC instead
[10:45] <czambran> bsdfox, you should be able to use both
[10:46] <bsdfox> czambran:  eth0 isn't getting an IP from DHCP when the wifi card is up
[10:46] <drew_> yea but gnome thats in termianl only
[10:46] <kspath_> Mewshi: sudo apt-cache showsrc enlightenment  shows it is in universe
[10:46] <NoUse> drew_ run this in a terminal 'touch /media/hda5/test.txt'
[10:46] <ben__> thank you, void^
[10:46] <Mewshi> ok... well, i just installed ubuntu... what's universe?
[10:46] <czambran> bsdfox, deactivate the wifi
[10:46] <ben__> it doesnt give me the error message now but i still hav to try installing it
[10:46] <bsdfox> czambran: that'll keep it from loading?
[10:46] <MTecknology> Is it possible to fully boot and switch between 2 operating systems that are installed on the same computer?
[10:46] <czambran> bsdfox, Ubuntu should remember, and it will keep deactivated
[10:46] <bsdfox> I'm pretty sure I tried that
[10:46] <bsdfox> ok I'll try again thanks
[10:47] <czambran> bsdfox, that works on my laptop
[10:47] <sybariten> NoUse: thats what i wanted, thanks!
[10:47] <Mewshi> so, i'm running 5.10... is there a newer version?
[10:47] <czambran> MTecknology, dual boot?
[10:47] <drew_> nouse it well didnt do anything
[10:47] <luis__> where can I find the 'upcoming events' page?
[10:47] <NoUse> drew_ that means you have write permissions
[10:47] <gnomefreak> Mewshi: in the next 24hrss yes
[10:47] <Mewshi> oh... my god... >.<
[10:47] <NoUse> drew_ log out and gnome and then log back in
[10:47] <MTecknology> czabran, I have the dual boot set up, but I want to run them at the same time
[10:47] <seth> What FS does Ubuntu use??
[10:48] <Mewshi> do i have to upgrade with it?  Like, do i have to download a new iso and whatnot?
[10:48] <NoUse> seth ext3
[10:48] <Mewshi> or can i just update the repositories?
[10:48] <drew_> Im upgrading though to 6.06 so I cant log out
[10:48] <ben__> void^: now when I search for wine nothing comes up except some other unrelated things
[10:48] <drew_> and it still wont let me rename the files in it
[10:48] <NoUse> drew_ ok, well then when you are done, log out and back in
[10:48] <drew_> ok
[10:48] <viajero> hi all
[10:48] <h3h_timo> how do i remove all kde applications and data?
[10:49] <NoUse> !removekde
[10:49] <ubotu> Want to remove gnome/kde completely? Look at debfoster, it's a great help
[10:49] <drew_> and after that I got to install java all over again(yeppie :-( )
[10:49] <Doso> I know that daper drake will be released on 01.06 .. anyone got a ETA? I mean will it be released at 0:01 or might it not be worth it staying up all night to wait for it? :] 
[10:49] <seth> Ok... I am sorry but how do I RAID the two firewire drives??
[10:49] <sybariten> what are the ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop packages ??
[10:49] <MTecknology> czabran, do you know how?
[10:49] <Mewshi> are there any other repositories i should add?  IE, ones that contain Enlightenment?
[10:50] <void^> ben__: huh? what are you trying to do?
[10:50] <viajero> I just installed Dapper on an Acer Aspire 5500. Install went fine. Ran update to get new packages. Now networking is broken. :(
[10:50] <apokryphos> sybariten: both metapackages; former gives you the standard base ubuntu installation without X etc; ubuntu-desktop gives you the full ubuntu install, with gnome desktop etc
[10:50] <czambran> MTecknology, other that using some kind of virtualization. No
[10:50] <luis__> where can I find the 'upcoming events' page?
[10:50] <drew_> why does java have to be so hard to install
[10:50] <zeR> Doso: the human beings needs sleep and Ubuntu, but sleep comes first :D
[10:50] <kspath_> !tell viajero about dapper
[10:50] <sybariten> uh, are people really that lost that they queue up for the dapper release like geeks for a fantasy movie ?  i've seen like 10 questions now on whether dapper will be release tomorrow or today
[10:50] <Belathor> luis__: Go to the Fridge at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
[10:50] <MTecknology> czabran, you mean like vmware?
[10:50] <rambo3> !tell drew_  about easyubuntu
[10:51] <czambran> drew_,  because it is proprietary
[10:51] <NoUse> drew_ licencing
[10:51] <Mewshi> could someone please help me get enlightenment on here?
[10:51] <czambran> MTecknology, yes o r qemu
[10:51] <luis__> Belathor, ah thank you :)
[10:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Mewshi about e17
[10:51] <drew_> can i get that on synapatic rambo
[10:51] <MTecknology> czabran, but those require running an image, right?
[10:51] <Belathor> no problem :D
[10:51] <simian__> i'm following a php beginners tutorial. But when I try to run the script through a browser from /var/www    i get a message saying unknown file type
[10:51] <sybariten> apokryphos: ok .. how should i interpret that answer. What is a metapackage? Or, let me ask like this: if i have a ubuntu install with gnome and the desktop and all, how come i dont have ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base?
[10:51] <Agrajag> You can give VMWare direct access to a disk
[10:51] <czambran> MTecknology, sort of
[10:51] <gnomefreak> Mewshi: your pm has the instructions
[10:51] <neoXite> drew_: it's fairly easy using java-package
[10:52] <MTecknology> aight, not what i want then
[10:52] <drew_> but can I get easy ubuntu on synapatic
[10:52] <apokryphos> sybariten: re: metapackage: /msg ubotu metapackage
[10:52] <NoUse> drew_ no, follow the instructions on their website
[10:52] <sixtymhz> simian__ : Doyou have php install?
[10:52] <sybariten> apokryphos: very clever name for the bot
[10:53] <viajero> kspath_: ack
[10:53] <apokryphos> sybariten: you can quite easily have gnome etc without having either of those. ubuntu-desktop brings in *all* packages that an ubuntu installation would have; if you removed, i.e. gaim, that metapackage would need to be removed as well
[10:53] <drew_> oh snap I got to find my python tut again
[10:53] <simian__> sixtymhz: yes
[10:53] <Mewshi> in those directions, the first part where you install stuff, it says "Could not find package sqlite3"
[10:53] <lmh> hi all, have to write a new xorg.conf for my laptop. is there any tool to do this for me?
[10:53] <NoUse> drew_ you don't need to know python to run easyubuntu
[10:53] <sybariten> apokryphos: ok. this is deep. but i think i understand. part of it.
[10:53] <apokryphos> sybariten: it's not the best way of handling depends/selections IMO, but it's the debian/ubuntu way with APT.
[10:53] <simian__> sixtymhz: php mysql mysql-php php-cgi
[10:53] <sybariten> ok
[10:54] <p_mas1> what IDE do the posse here use for php ?
[10:54] <apokryphos> sybariten: well, let me know if you have a problem with any particular part and I'll try to explain further =)
[10:54] <sybariten> maybe this is why i've had some gnome applet complaints every time i start X
[10:54] <rambo3> lmh yeah its called gedit , or /msg ubotu fixres
[10:54] <drew_> no I started learning python last nite
[10:54] <NoUse> drew_ oh ok
[10:54] <rockzman> checking for pkg-config... yes
[10:54] <rockzman> configure: error: glib2 not found
[10:54] <sybariten> apokryphos: no real problem yet ... i was told to install ubundu-dekstop and ubuntu-base in a guide, so i did, and apt didnt complain what i can see, it downloaded a bunch of stuff. thanks
[10:54] <rockzman> can someone help
[10:55] <Mewshi> Could someone tell me what i need to do to get the directions on the ubuntu wiki about installing e17 to work?  for the installing libraries part, it says "Couldn't find sqlite3"
[10:55] <NoUse> rockzman what are you trying to compile?
[10:55] <apokryphos> sybariten: if you're upgrading the old way with dist-upgrade, you should certainly make sure that you have those packs, yes.
[10:55] <rockzman> NoUse: obtuner-0.3
[10:55] <drew_> dangit I get an error while getting the stable release
[10:55] <sybariten> apokryphos: yeah dist-upgrade is what i am gonna use, i believe
[10:56] <NoUse> rockzman you need to install the -dev package of glibc
[10:56] <drew_> Your sources.list does not match your system configuration.
[10:56] <drew_> Either you have changed your sources.list or an system
[10:56] <drew_> upgrade has failed. EasyUbuntu will not run unless these are fixed!
[10:56] <NoUse> rockzman get it in synatpic
[10:56] <rockzman> NoUse: ok gimme a min
[10:56] <apokryphos> sybariten: APT requires those packages to successfully perform the upgrade; it tells it which packages it needs for the new upgrade.
[10:56] <tarvid> which utility is easiest for reading db files?
[10:56] <drew_> wait nm Im upgrading prob why
[10:56] <rambo3> Mewshi, just install sql lite lib
[10:57] <Tachyon> Hi, I have a question.  When I upgrade to Dapper, do I need to change my sources file first?  Is there a link to a documentation page with the necessary changes outlined?
[10:57] <sybariten> ok, so theres this part in my guide that says i should "prevent the upgrade from replacing your sun or IBM java". They point to a .deb file i should wget. Now, deb files are platform dependent arent they? I'm on a Mac and although the word "mac" is in the URL, i suspect this guide was written for intel users
[10:57] <Spec> !upgrade
[10:57] <apokryphos> Tachyon: /msg ubotu upgrade
[10:57] <rockzman> NoUse: i dont have it on my packages list
[10:57] <rockzman> NoUse: only glibc-doc
[10:57] <mar10> hello, i'm looking for a list of packages, which is on dapper drake cd, any ideas, where to look?
[10:57] <apokryphos> sybariten: debs aren't platform independent; they're only used on debian-based systems.
[10:58] <ben__> wtf does "child process failed" mean?
[10:58] <apokryphos> sybariten: if you mean architecture independent, then the answer is: generally no, but some are. They're labelled with noarch in the name.
[10:58] <Tachyon> apokryphos: Thanks
[10:58] <rockzman> ubotu tell ben__ about language
[10:59] <sybariten> apokryphos: ok there is no "noarch" in the name of this package
[10:59] <ben__> help: http://pastebin.com/749898
[10:59] <jessy_> is ubuntu realeased ?
[10:59] <apokryphos> sybariten: what is it exactly you're trying to do, though? Also, link to the guide?
[10:59] <apokryphos> jessy_: ubuntu dapper? No, not yet.
[10:59] <UserName14> something has gone and i cant remove proftpd even with a purge. It is not working properly and it wont until i can do a reinstall is there a way to get rid of it and or the error preventing me
[10:59] <rockzman> NoUse: only glibc-doc i do have in my packages list
[10:59] <wyk> hi
[11:00] <ShadowNova> I'm trying to enable direct rendering on my ati card, and it won't. I even installed the driver and it still won't work.
[11:00] <jessy_> apokryphos, how many hours lefts ?
[11:00] <sybariten> apokryphos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes   , part three
[11:00] <Tachyon> 3 hours ^_^
[11:00] <jessy_> hmm ok
[11:00] <tkrin> anyone running dapper on a PowerBook G4 and know how to resolve horrible audio quality?
[11:00] <Tachyon> 2 hours now . . .
[11:00] <jessy_> in france it's 11h05pm :D
[11:00] <apokryphos> jessy_: some time tomorrow :). Predictions are for around 10 AM
[11:00] <apokryphos> *GMT
[11:00] <Tachyon> Ah
[11:01] <sybariten> apokryphos: i needed to go from hoary to breezy ... the thing is, now that i've been sitting here for a while i cant remember any longer what software i originally needed to install, that required this upgrade. This is so typical for *nix .....
[11:01] <void^> ben__: did you run `apt-get build-dep wine`? did you install build-essential?
[11:01] <UserName14> something has gone and i cant remove proftpd even with a purge. It is not working properly and it wont until i can do a reinstall is there a way to get rid of it and or the error preventing me
[11:01] <assasukasse> and for that time the server wil be so busy we won't download anything..
[11:01] <YoManWazap> ShadowNova forget it it wont work...I have the same problem...
[11:01] <sybariten> ah, now i remember ... i wanted XFCE
[11:01] <rambo3> ShadowNova, apt-cache-policy linux-restricted-modules-(uname -r)
[11:01] <jsb> hi!
[11:01] <rambo3> ShadowNova, apt-cache-policy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[11:01] <apokryphos> sybariten: the only thing you have to do is, (i) make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed, (ii) change all occurences of "breezy" to "dapper" in /etc/apt/sources.list; (iii) sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:02] <sybariten> apokryphos: i'm not going from breezy to dapper, i'm going from hoary to breezy
[11:02] <sybariten> apokryphos: but maybe the methodology is the same ......
[11:02] <apokryphos> sybariten: oh sorry, yeah; all occurences of hoary to breezy then
[11:02] <apokryphos> yes
[11:03] <jsb> Is there anyone who knows how to start 3D acceleration on my PC?
[11:03] <muszek> hi
[11:03] <apokryphos> hello
[11:03] <jsb> ATI radeon 9600 9700
[11:03] <ben__> yes i ran apt-get build-dep wine first
[11:03] <petrik> Can someone walk me through transferring files from one ubuntu box to another?
[11:04] <pricechild> hey.. where's the xgl thread gone on the forums :(
[11:04] <pricechild> since they closed dapper i can't get it through my bookmarks :(
[11:04] <apokryphos> pricechild: #ubuntuforums
[11:04] <sybariten> apokryphos: is it safe/fair to say that any line in a ubuntu sources.list always has an occurrence of breezy, hoary, dapper or anyotherstupidjungleanimal in it ... and that this is the way you upgrade between versions? (by simply changing that one variable, in every instance)
[11:04] <muszek> I'm confused by different answers I get... I've been on dapper for a week or so... will I need to do a dist-upgrade once the "final" version is released?
[11:04] <pricechild> ok sorry
[11:04] <pricechild> cya
[11:04] <apokryphos> sybariten: pretty much, yes.
[11:04] <Spec> muszek: probably not
[11:04] <muszek> Spec: probably?
[11:04] <Spec> muszek: you can do it anyways though if you feel like it :p
[11:04] <void^> ben__: "did you run `apt-get build-dep wine`? did you install build-essential?" <- note the 2nd part
[11:05] <sybariten> apokryphos: ok ekhfaristou for the help!
[11:05] <igorzolnikov> when will be released Dapper?
[11:05] <jsb> why ubuntu doesn't support 3D acceleration for ATI 9600/9700?
[11:05] <Spec> igorzolnikov: read topic
[11:05] <apokryphos> sybariten: though actually now as I remember the standard for backports was changed; hm. Doing the above instructions will certainly work smoothly, but to get the total new default sources.list it might be worth replacing your current one with the one on /msg ubotu sources.list
[11:05] <YoManWazap> no forums for Dapper by the moment....The Dapper Drake development forum has now been closed.
[11:05] <Spec> jsb: probably no drivers for it - do you feel like writing them?
[11:05] <apokryphos> igorzolnikov: some time on the 1st of June
[11:05] <muszek> Spec: how do I know if I need to do it?
[11:05] <Spec> muszek: It'll tell you if there were packages kept back - if so, do dist-upgrade
[11:06] <muszek> Spec: I see, thank you.
[11:06] <jsb> I tryed to install fglrx drivers for xorg...but no results
[11:06] <igorzolnikov> in russia 1 june now...
[11:06] <Pip> !dapper
[11:06] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[11:06] <ben__> void^: i just followed the directions on the wine website
[11:06] <rambo3> i have 3d acc on radeon 9600
[11:06] <saxin> jsb, you need to restart X
[11:06] <smax> How much time letter with my daper cd's would be going to Ukraine? ( i'm sory my English is awful but i think you know what i mean)
[11:06] <MrErnst> if i choose to  Overwriting the Windows bootloader Using the LiveCD, so that instead of booting windows boot ubuntu, will i be able to choose from a boot menu?
[11:06] <Pip> still beta ?
[11:06] <Spec> muszek: as far as i know dist-upgrade does more in-depth dependency checks, etc etc
[11:06] <jsb> done...no way
[11:06] <chiban> Anyone want to help me get X started up?
[11:07] <Spec> smax: how much time does it usually take to ship something from the USA to Ukraine?
[11:07] <YoManWazap> jsb forgetit it wont work... last version of xorg-driver-fglrx in repositories seem to be broke
[11:07] <void^> ubotu: tell ben__ about build-essential
[11:07] <erus> what should i do if i just messedup my xorg config and it wont start? how to conigure it? (from shell)
[11:08] <sybariten> apokryphos: ok, i'm just interested in getting a "maxed out" sources.list that will give me access to as many packages as possible for my ubuntu release and my architecture
[11:08] <apokryphos> erus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
 smax: how much time does it usually take to ship something from the USA to Ukraine?>> I think that it taken ship from Africa )
[11:08] <sybariten> !easysource
[11:08] <erus> ok thanks
[11:08] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:08] <apokryphos> sybariten: /msg ubotu easycourse
[11:08] <apokryphos> or there =)
[11:08] <jsb> YoManWazap: broke! how can you know this?
[11:08] <Spec> smax: really? :p
[11:08] <sybariten> hehe
[11:08] <ben__> void^: what's !gcc?
[11:08] <MTecknology> How can I read/write a few OO2.org files in Ubuntu that live on an NTFS partition that is mounted?
[11:08] <apokryphos> 863 :)
[11:09] <dmesg> hi
[11:09] <Spec> MTecknology: Is the NTFS partition mounted with captive-ntfs?
[11:09] <Lastinus> MTecknology: libntfs?
[11:09] <void^> ubotu: tell ben__ about gcc
[11:09] <smax> Then it would be better for me to download from net iso image )
[11:09] <MTecknology> idk
[11:09] <chiban> Have an interesting problem with X, here's what the log reports at the very end. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is where its at under "chibi"
[11:09] <dmesg> any one knwos how to insrall a gdm theme?
[11:09] <jsb> YoManWazap: I downloaded ATI drivers from ati website, and it doesn't work too!
[11:09] <YoManWazap> erus in recovery mode after rebbot type as a super user: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose ati driver others answers by default
[11:09] <sybariten> apokryphos: btw who needs deb-src to be activated ?
[11:09] <Spec> MTecknology: if you want to read and write to ntfs you need to use captive-ntfs to mount the drive
[11:09] <Spec> MTecknology: if you want to just read, you can mount it with libntfs(i think)
[11:09] <apokryphos> sybariten: it's used for when you want access to src-rpms or to be able to get build-dependencies
[11:10] <PrimoTurbo> Will Dapper Drake be release exactly after midnight?
[11:10] <apokryphos> err, or just src
[11:10] <Spec> PrimoTurbo: no
[11:10] <gnomefreak> PrimoTurbo: read the topic
[11:10] <gnomefreak> within 24 hrs
[11:10] <Spec> PrimoTurbo: it'll be released when it's finished -- since there's lots of timezones, there is no exactly midnight
[11:10] <MTecknology> Spec, can I get captive-ntfs through repo?
[11:10] <sybariten> apokryphos: ok, i cant remember having had the need for that. thx for the help
[11:10] <PrimoTurbo> I see so no universal time...
[11:10] <ben__> void^: so i should install that and then it will work?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: no and its not safe either
[11:11] <Spec> nope
[11:11] <Spec> it's safe enough :p
[11:11] <PrimoTurbo> alright I can wait
[11:11] <Spec> !captive
[11:11] <ubotu> captive is, like, a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[11:11] <chiban> Thats awesome!
[11:11] <void^> ben__: perhaps.
[11:11] <gnomefreak> ben__: instead of gcc install build-essential
[11:11] <void^> !gcc
[11:11] <ubotu> somebody said gcc was the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[11:11] <Spec> bah, well, -I- use captive.ntfs and it works fine ;)
[11:11] <MTecknology> aight, i'll leave it alone then
[11:11] <chiban> Oh, whats the command to update from 6.06 beta to full?
[11:11] <Spec> why do you need gcc?
[11:11] <trappist> I'd like more information on the "It does not work properly with Ubuntu" part.
[11:11] <hollywoodb> chiban: post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf as well
[11:11] <apokryphos> chiban: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:12] <YoManWazap> jsb seem to be that restricted package in repositories keep asking for older versions of glibc...anyway for sure thats the conclusion that people have on ubuntu forums
[11:12] <gnomefreak> chiban: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[11:12] <chiban> hollywoodb: Oh you know what.. I didn't check that. I'll look before posting... I just switched computers and its not recognizing the graphics card (nvidia-glx-legacy probably)
[11:12] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: have they opened up the auto upgrade?
[11:12] <SurfnKid> dude this ati setup thing doesnt have 1280x800 this sucks
[11:12] <SurfnKid> just 1280x960
[11:12] <PrimoTurbo> Are they still sending out cds?
[11:12] <smax> I've got 1 question daper repo's is RC or normal version now?
[11:13] <gnomefreak> PrimoTurbo: yes
[11:13] <Flannel> smax: still RC, until the release.
[11:13] <rockzman> How do I check my network settings?
[11:13] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: it was closed?
[11:13] <erus> thanks again :D
[11:13] <ben__> void^: it says that build essential is already the latest version
[11:13] <Mysta_> rockzman: ifconifg
[11:13] <PrimoTurbo> great, will there be a dvd with all 3 releases kubuntu, ubuntu, etc
[11:13] <gnomefreak> smax: right now rc but if you are up to date there will not be any more updates till after release
[11:13] <Mysta_> rockzman: ifconfig, sorry
[11:13] <rockzman> Mysta_: ty
[11:13] <UserName14> I have a feeling i need to stop a process before i can delete it, at the moment i ccant delete it. init.d is a no go what other ways can i stop a process thru the command prompt
[11:13] <apokryphos> PrimoTurbo: unfortunately not. The DVDs cointain desktop+alternate
[11:13] <hollywoodb> chiban: either your Section/EndSection markers are messed up, your Screen section is messed up, or you should just comment out the BusID line I imagine, but it would help to see it
[11:13] <jsb> YoManWazap: thanks for this info...no other ways to start 3D acc on my PC?
[11:13] <chiban> apokryphos: How would I find out the busid of my device? And Is the identifier important?
[11:13] <Spec> lspci -v
[11:14] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: i didnt think they had the option in update && dist-upgrade (you still had to change the list)
[11:14] <Spec> chiban: ^^
[11:14] <chiban> hollywoodb, apokryphos pasting it up
[11:14] <PrimoTurbo> what is desktop+alternate?
[11:14] <drew_> xfce
[11:14] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: really? I'm pretty sure that all the devs use just the same repos...
[11:14] <smax> What happend whith my OS if i plug Debian repo's
[11:15] <apokryphos> PrimoTurbo: desktop is a live cd with an installer; alternate is the old classical text installation.
[11:15] <apokryphos> smax: caboom
[11:15] <PrimoTurbo> I see
[11:15] <apokryphos> well, likely to get a lot of problems
[11:15] <UserName14> I have a feeling i need to stop a process before i can delete it, at the moment i ccant delete it. init.d is a no go what other ways can i stop a process thru the command prompt (telling me how to remove stuff from the system startup would also solve the problem)
[11:15] <ben__> FUCKING PEICE OF SHIT
[11:15] <ben__> LINBLOWZ
[11:15] <Spec> language
[11:15] <drew_> man linux takes forever with updaes
[11:15] <drew_> updates*
[11:15] <redguy> !ops
[11:15] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[11:15] <sybariten> ben__: hehe, having problems ?
[11:16] <chiban> redguy: beat me to it
[11:16] <jsb> ok! so, no 3D with ubuntu on a PC with ATI Radeon Mobility 9600...ok! I'll use windows xp for games, etc!
[11:16] <smax> My friend have been installed Gnome from Debian repo and it work's faster than Ubuntu ( the same version)
[11:16] <jsb> no 3D acceleration
[11:16] <joelito> @drew it happens usually around a new release
[11:16] <YoManWazap> jsb trust me Id tryed everything.... by the moment the only thing is wait to see if there is a new version of xorg-driver-fglrx in the release of Dapper...since i have upgrade my kernel to 2.6.15-23 thre is no more 3D acceleration for my Radeon...
[11:16] <sybariten> we've all been there. its linux. take a deep breath, keep the valium bigpack nearby
[11:16] <redguy> chiban: huh?
[11:16] <neoXite> so other than a version number, rc and final repo arent going to be much different, are they?
[11:16] <chiban> apokryphos: I have no clue how to paste a file to the ubuntu paste with w3m X-x
[11:16] <gnomefreak> you snuck in there
[11:16] <drew_> well joel it aint much slower than last time I updated
[11:16] <nbx909> is this about dapper now or do i need to go to #ubuntu+1 ?
[11:16] <drew_> (why did I have to mess up ubuntu why?)
[11:16] <philuk86> is ubuntu.con down?
[11:16] <apokryphos> nbx909: +1 still
[11:17] <Seveas> chiban, wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[11:17] <nbx909> apokryphos, ty
[11:17] <gnomefreak> philuk86: no
[11:17] <Seveas> echo foo | python pastebin
[11:17] <apokryphos> phatmonkey: not here
[11:17] <jsb> YoManWazap: ok, grazie! we stay here and hope on future!
[11:17] <p_mash> anyone know a Linux ftp client like Filezilla ?
[11:18] <visik7> p_mash: what filezilla has than ftp:// hasn't ?
[11:18] <chiban> Seveas: That is the most useful tool ever
[11:18] <p_mash> filezilla is WIndows..
[11:18] <chiban> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14930
[11:18] <smax> which file manager is beter. Krusader is full sh*t
[11:19] <sybariten> uhm, do i need a tailormade sources.list for my PPC architecture?  i mean, is there a PPC variable in there somewhere?
[11:19] <gnomefreak> Seveas: theres a problem with line #166 data is nto defined
[11:19] <sybariten> i didnt think so before, but now i see that the source-o-matic thingie has a tickbox for i386/PPC
[11:19] <YoManWazap> jsb yes sir that it...be confindent that we will be getting back 3D acceleration in Dapper
[11:19] <Seveas> gnomefreak, line 166 of what?
[11:19] <gnomefreak> Seveas: the pastebin code
[11:19] <apokryphos> smax: language, please :). Though Konqueror is fine; why use krusader?
[11:19] <slackern> p_mash: you could try out gftp
[11:19] <Flannel> p_mash: you can use nautilus (that's the file browser) for FTP, although filezilla is coming out with a linux port.
[11:19] <jsb> putting vga=791 on /boot/grub/menu.lst I can get a framebuffer resolution 1024x768. But...what about 1200x800?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> Seveas: i used wget and got it but running echo command it gave me that error
[11:20] <hollywoodb> chiban: comment the BusID line as well as the last 3 lines (about DRI) in your xorg.conf
[11:20] <Flannel> p_mash: just go to places > connect to server (or something like that)
[11:20] <chiban> jsb: Naw, it doesn't support wvga sadly. I wish it did.
[11:20] <chiban> hollywoodb: Working on it
[11:20] <SymmHome> lo all
[11:20] <SymmHome> hrmmm anyone around I can speak to about becoming an official ubuntu mirror?
[11:20] <p_mash> slackern: yea got that.. would like something with a "site manager" like filezilla though !
[11:20] <chiban> hollywoodb: and then just startx?
[11:20] <smax> No, i want a file manager gui with 2 windows, konqueror is too slow as for me I want somthin like total komander
[11:21] <hollywoodb> chiban: yeah, try it
[11:21] <SymmHome> its one of the few things that I havent really investigated becoming an official mirror for on our new mirror server (that mirrors virtually everything else you can think of)
[11:21] <chiban> hollywoodb: you're a miracle worker
[11:21] <jsb> chiban: ...hmmm. Why, when I've installed SUSE, I got a splashscreen (during boot time) with a good resolution?
[11:21] <Seveas> gnomefreak, fixed
[11:21] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[11:21] <GoClick> SymmHome that'd take a crapload of bandwidth you know
[11:21] <slackern> p_mash: hmm, isn't the bookmarks in gftp like a sitemanager? or maybe you mean some other kind of sitemanager?
[11:22] <chiban> jsb: I don't know, I was just trying to get a nice widescreen res on my laptop, it said it wasn't supported (for terminals)
[11:22] <p_mash> slackern: almost...
[11:22] <SymmHome> GoClick trust me
[11:22] <SymmHome> I can afford the bandwidth
[11:22] <SymmHome> just like I can afford the disk space
[11:22] <chiban> hollywoodb: Thanks alot... y ou wouldn't know what I need to put in the fstab so regular users can read a ntfsmount?
[11:22] <SymmHome> I run the south african national research network
[11:22] <petrik> Having trouble trying to move files between two ubuntu machines. anyone got any experience in this?
[11:22] <SymmHome> and I want to be able to ptu the stuff on the backbone so that the hundreds of thousands of students behind my network can get faster access to it
[11:23] <smax> how can i change my locale in 6.06 from UTF-8 to KOI8-U
[11:23] <keherman> At what time exactly will the final ISO image be built?  and then at what exact time will it be distributed?  I want to mirror it...
[11:23] <Seveas> SymmHome, please contact Znarl on #ubuntu-mirrors
[11:23] <Seveas> He is mirror admin
[11:23] <YoManWazap> hollywoodb were you able to get 3D acceleration running ati-driver-installer-8.25.18-x86 ??
[11:24] <SymmHome> thanks Seveas
[11:24] <eggzeck> sybariten, you can just do this (if you're on gnome): gksudo "update-manager -d"
[11:24] <smax> GayTZ
[11:25] <sybariten> sorry, but i just have to ask again ... i have copied a sources.list for breezy, from the ubuntu pastebin. Any chance it is specific for intel? I have PPC and dont wanna break the system now when i do apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:25] <chiban> hollywoodb: Thanks a million for doing that, you saved me and my friend alot of work. Much appreciated!
[11:25] <sybariten> eggzeck: hmmmm ok?  i'm kinda following a guide here, from the wiki  ;-)
  sybariten, you can just do this (if you're on gnome): gksudo "update-manager -d" | it's "gksu" aktually
[11:25] <Seveas> sybariten, that sources.list will work fine on ppc
[11:25] <chiban> Seveas: Thanks for the useful script
[11:25] <eggzeck> sybariten, I showed you how, and don't copy sources.list, you should make sure it's right, or use source-o-matic
[11:25] <tiagoboldt> is the dapper drake release exact time already known?
[11:25] <smax> how can i change my locale in 6.06 from UTF-8 to KOI8-U please help me
[11:25] <sybariten> smax: forget it Jake, its chinatown
[11:25] <eggzeck> !easysource
[11:25] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:25] <Seveas> chiban, you should download it again, there was an error
[11:25] <hollywoodb> chiban: no problem
[11:26] <YoManWazap> tiagoboldt yes 00:00 UTC
[11:26] <hollywoodb> YoManWazap: no experience with ATI, always used nvidia myself
[11:26] <GoClick> SymmHome I sent you prv msg
[11:26] <eggzeck> FoxHunter_, gksudo works ;)
[11:26] <smax> jake what does it mean
[11:26] <FoxHunter_> oh okay ;)
[11:26] <tiagoboldt> hollywoodb tks :)
[11:26] <hollywoodb> chiban: about the ntfs thing, I'd check the forums, that's pretty common
[11:27] <sybariten> smax: it was a quote from a great great film. You simply won't find anything that comes close to TC. We had this discussion in linux-help yesterday, BTW
[11:27] <YoManWazap> hollywoodb I see...this days are not been good for Ati....lucky Nvida people!!
[11:27] <smax> K2 is a GUI program?
[11:28] <sybariten> eggzeck: ok ... well i didnt even understand the source-o-matic fully. There are tickboxes for packages/sources
[11:28] <sybariten> uh wait, maybe that is what enables/disables deb-src
[11:28] <eggzeck> sybariten, it's easy to understand
[11:28] <hollywoodb> YoManWazap: I've seen a lot of ATI stuff in the forums, but I've never looked at it myself
[11:29] <eggzeck> YoManWazap, please stop saying such things, ATI works fine
[11:29] <eggzeck> and most do get it to work, it's only the user who doesn't know how
[11:29] <sybariten> smax: K2 ?
[11:30] <Slappy> heh my ati works fine
[11:30] <eggzeck> See? A lot of ATI users don't even check out docs, they just want Ubuntu to do everything heh
[11:30] <smax> K2 is a file manager on rusian ubuntu forum somebody told me that this is good file manager
[11:30] <Silencer> is there msttcorefonts for ubuntu 6.06 ?
[11:30] <slackern> eggzeck: isn't that a bit of the purpose? :)
[11:30] <Slappy> easy install for me
[11:30] <jsb> eggzeck: I'm one of those users...could you help me?
[11:30] <tritium> yes, Silencer
[11:31] <eggzeck> ubotu tell jsb about ATI
[11:31] <nahoj> how many hours until the release of dapper?
[11:31] <Silencer> can I get info for that somewere :)
[11:31] <eggzeck> now read please :)
[11:31] <YoManWazap> eggzeck i not saying otherwise...just yhat with the last version its imposible to get it working on Ubuntu kenel 2.6.15-23
[11:31] <tritium> !info msttcorefonts dapper
[11:31] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[11:31] <sybariten> smax: ok, splendid
[11:31] <Slappy> working here
[11:31] <sybariten> now here goes the update!  see you on the other side
[11:31] <tritium> There you go, Silencer.  You'll see that it's in the multiverse repo
[11:31] <eggzeck> YoManWazap, hah, no it isn't
[11:32] <Silencer> ok thx <3
[11:32] <gareth_> whats the package that has the WMV9 codec in the repos called/
[11:32] <gareth_> ?
[11:32] <sybariten> uh BTW can i still be in X when i do this?   :)
[11:33] <eggzeck> sybariten, yes, Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[11:33] <smax> which good dc++ server you did you know?
[11:33] <Knorrie> !tell gareth_ about restrictedformats
[11:33] <Knorrie> gareth_: in the wiki are links to it
[11:33] <sybariten> eggzeck: hehe, i do know how to find a terminal  :)  i just meant if the update needs to alter stuff that i am using
[11:34] <nicoles_bf> hi. lpq says: lpq: error - no default destination available.
[11:34] <smax> which good dc++ server you did you know? Give me an advice
[11:34] <tommo> i know i have an X session running but another one started... i closed that but how do i get to the old one
[11:34] <tommo> im in monocrome shell mode now :(
[11:34] <eggzeck> sybariten, you can do it. I did
[11:34] <tommo> i can still hear gaim :|
[11:34] <amphi> tommo: alt-f7 probably
[11:34] <tommo> ok ty
[11:34] <H080J03> how do you take a screen shot?
[11:34] <yct> :] 
[11:35] <tritium> H080J03: hit the Print Screen button
[11:35] <nicoles_bf> I installed foo2zjs from http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/, and at least the hardware seems to work
[11:35] <amphi> H080J03: xwd is one prog
[11:35] <H080J03> it is not working
[11:35] <smax> verlyhub is a good server
[11:35] <sybariten> haha, crap, it needs to use like 5-600 megs of space. I think i have 750 free ,.....  will i need the double of that number it mentions ?
[11:35] <tritium> H080J03: check your keyboard shortcuts, then
[11:36] <smax> is verlyhub a good dc++ server
[11:36] <smax> ?
[11:36] <amphi> H080J03: 'xwd -root | xwdtopnm | pnmtopng > screenshot.png' to take a screenshot of your desktop ;)
[11:37] <sybariten> or does apt use exactly the amount of disk space it mentions, and all temp things and so are calculated into that ?
[11:37] <brandon_> which ubuntu apps support dht for torrents?
[11:37] <amphi> H080J03: assuming you have netpbm installed
[11:38] <petrik> how can I mount a file that is on another machine through the gui?
[11:38] <H080J03> hmm
[11:38] <FoxHunter_> anyone succeded in playing sound with an Audigy2 in the latest live-cd?
[11:38] <H080J03> i don't have netpb installed
[11:38] <H080J03> *netpbm
[11:38] <sybariten> petrik: nautilus has some built in things .. check the gnome menu ?
[11:38] <amphi> H080J03: it's but an apt-get away...
[11:38] <H080J03> i know
[11:38] <sybariten> brandon_: what is dht ?
[11:38] <amphi> H080J03: and useful
[11:38] <H080J03> i have sysnptic open
[11:38] <KeithWeisshar> i have pre-ordered dapper through shipit, when do i receive it
[11:38] <keherman> Is the torrent file out for the final ISOs yet?  We can open up the torrent file, and leave it running until the ISo is available
[11:39] <keherman> KeithWeisshar, like 6 weeks
[11:39] <Fujitsu> A few weeks, KeithWeisshar .
[11:39] <brandon_> sybariten: nm
[11:39] <avalente> hello. has anyone seen a bug that i've reported on launchpad because of nvida-glx after Breezy->Dapper? It crashes the X server.. :\ It's a major drawback for users upgrading between versions...
[11:39] <crashputer> Hi all
[11:39] <Fujitsu> avalente, what number?
[11:40] <H080J03> hello
[11:40] <avalente> Fujitsu: 47017
[11:40] <KeithWeisshar> should i still download the iso
[11:40] <H080J03> ok i can't find xwd
[11:40] <KeithWeisshar> how do i get the i686 version
[11:40] <livevil> hi
[11:41] <yct> avalente, improperly working automatix even higher a drawback, ppl just should reinstall..
[11:41] <KeithWeisshar> will there be a dvd version of dapper
[11:41] <gnomefreak> KeithWeisshar: yes
[11:41] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[11:41] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[11:41] <petrik> sybariten, Sorry I meant a drive not a file.
[11:42] <Fujitsu> avalente, that looks pretty nasty.
[11:42] <livevil> Can someone explain me how I can execute the commands inside a directory? When in guides I read something like:"You can install the VLC and its plugins by typing:
[11:42] <livevil>    make install", Where I can type the command?
[11:42] <Plouj> what are some ways to identify what ram speed my old laptop's mobo might support? It currently uses a PC2100 module. Can I use something like 2700?
[11:42] <yct> !easyubuntu
[11:42] <ubotu> well, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[11:42] <Fujitsu> Ideally it'd be fixed before the release, but that's just hours away.
[11:42] <gnomefreak> KeithWeisshar: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[11:42] <kahuuna> w000w0000 ubuntu release party :P
[11:42] <sybariten> petrik: well, i suppose you could use samba or nfs, if thats what you mean ?  i mount my drives with samba, if they are in other machines
[11:42] <airblue> livevil: Open a terminal, "cd" to the directory, and typer in youre command.
[11:43] <amphi> livevil: why are you building it yourself/
[11:43] <amphi> ?
[11:43] <h3h_timo> does anyone know if they fixed the problem that dapper was having with dhcp??
[11:43] <livevil> how I can ope a terminal?
[11:43] <Fujitsu> Are those the finals, gnomefreak!?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> livevil: applications>accessories>terminal
[11:43] <KeithWeisshar> does the dvd still use text mode installer
[11:43] <avalente> Fujitsu: also thought that.. it's nasty because it messes up the X after update.. I posted it a few days ago, but it didn't even got "confirmed"
[11:43] <airblue> livevil: Well, like amphi said, why are you compiling it yourself? Are you sure you cant use Synaptic or apt-get?
[11:44] <avalente> yct: I didn't get you, but I don't use automatix
[11:44] <gnomefreak> Fujitsu: not offical finals but they are pretty much finals
[11:44] <amphi> livevil: if you are asking such questions, you should probably not be doing this at all
[11:44] <gnomefreak> Fujitsu: you wont see the finals for a few hours
[11:44] <petrik> sybariten, I spent a whole day trying to work with both of those and I don't know what I do wrong but can not get it working. It is between two ubuntu boxes. I have 120G to move of a NTFS drive so I can format it for linux
[11:44] <Fujitsu> gnomefreak, that's what I thought from watching #ubuntu-devel last night.
[11:44] <Fujitsu> Hmm.
[11:44] <avalente> yct, Fujitsu: the package nvidia-glx just gets deleted apparently
[11:44] <gnomefreak> Fujitsu: they are done updating packages as of this am
[11:44] <airblue> livevil: Many programs can be downloaded using Synaptic from a GUI interface. Its not usually necessary to build things from source using "make".
[11:44] <Fujitsu> seb128 just said the final CDs had been rolled, and they would probably be the last.
[11:44] <Fujitsu> School now!
[11:45] <yct> avalente, i never used it either, I was planning to use it on Drake now, but got some warnings here
[11:45] <gnomefreak> avalente: i think it gets updated to a newer version and you will have to config it in xorg
[11:45] <keherman> Where are the new torrent files!?!?!  cmon !!!
[11:45] <KeithWeisshar> does the dvd version of ubuntu still use the old text mode installer
[11:46] <avalente> gnomefreak: i lost the nvidia-glx package at all... the X said it had no driver, so i've apt-get isntall nvidia-glx to bring it back
[11:46] <gnomefreak> KeithWeisshar: yes im fairly sure
[11:46] <livevil> ok
[11:46] <KeithWeisshar> is there a live installer in the dvd version
[11:46] <airblue> livevil: What are you trying to install?
[11:46] <avalente> yct: ah.. so you're not saying the bug i reported was caused by automatix, but instead that automatix also had a bug... k :) got y now
[11:46] <livevil> ok airblue, but on synaptic I can't found vlc
[11:47] <gnomefreak> KeithWeisshar: i dont think so but dont know
[11:47] <yct> avalente, neither, i was just suggesting you automatix (may i suggest you easybuntu now:)
[11:47] <gnomefreak> avalente: automatix is garbage and avalente since breezy automatix and dapper automatix are different yes it could have been caused by that
[11:47] <yct> ~ i think the download sites will be drakedotted for some time after release:]  ~
[11:47] <kasper_G> Anybody has experience with either maple and/or mathematica? ... I am trying to use the key "^" but it doesn't function properly in either software. Anybody knows a solution?
[11:47] <petrik> sybariten, When I ask file share to use smb it keeps throwing a username and password box at me and no matter what I enter I can not get further. Also workgroups remains as MSHOME even if I change it in network admin
[11:47] <avalente> gnomefreak: i don't have automatix..
[11:47] <livevil> vlc
[11:48] <avalente> yct: ah.. I see..
[11:48] <livevil> I'm a beginner
[11:48] <gnomefreak> avalente: did you when you did the upgrade?
[11:48] <avalente> nope
[11:48] <avalente> never used automatix
[11:48] <mirak> is there a way to not have iptable putting is logs on the tty ?
[11:48] <livevil> airblue: vlc
[11:48] <airblue> livevil: Thats OK. VLC may not been in what we refer to as "repositories", which hold all the software
[11:48] <airblue> livevil: If you update your repositories list, it will appear
[11:48] <avalente> I had the system going... updated to dapper RC, reboot, lost X, console, reinstall nvidia-glx that was missing, start X, up and going..
[11:49] <Knorrie> mirak: look at the dmesg command, it's something like dmesg -1 or so
[11:49] <r0xoR> ahhhh, back from errands :)
[11:49] <airblue> livevil: What version are you running?
[11:49] <livevil> I'm trying
[11:49] <honkzilla> I just did a fresh install of 6.06 LTS Release Candidate.  Network worked fine during the installation, but is only showing ethernet errors now (tulip driver).  Can someone help me troubleshoot this?
[11:49] <r0xoR> not like y'all missed me or anything anyway :P
[11:49] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[11:49] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[11:49] <livevil> airblue: ubuntu
[11:50] <georgeguitar> hello
[11:50] <airblue> livevil: Which version? Breezy, Dapper (5.01, 6.06)?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> livevil: lsb_release -a to find out what verison of ubuntu you have
[11:50] <r0xoR> hi georgeguitar
[11:50] <r0xoR> georgeguitar, do you in fact play guitar?
[11:50] <yct> ubotu, what timezone? i'll have 1st june in 10 minutes
[11:50] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, yct
[11:51] <yct> :)
[11:51] <Polibio> helo
[11:51] <Lastinus> hmm, i suppose 6.06 is released on australian mirrors :D
[11:51] <petrik> yct, I've had June first for 10 hours already :-)
[11:51] <siriusnova> yay
[11:51] <livevil> airblue it's 5.1
[11:51] <gnomefreak> yct: when its changed back to here you will know not sure yet when
[11:51] <siriusnova> Dapper is almost released :P
[11:51] <airblue> livevil: Ok, 1 sec
[11:52] <livevil> ok
[11:52] <yct> petrik, I'd feel cheated! :)
[11:52] <airblue> livevil: Go here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories.
[11:52] <Seveas> airblue, NO
[11:52] <Seveas> airblue, ubuntuguide is bad
[11:52] <Flannel> airblue: ubuntuguide is no good.
[11:52] <bobesponja> tomorrow's iso will be desktop, install and live or only install and live? (beside the other server etc)
[11:52] <mirak> r0xoR: lol
[11:52] <airblue> OK
[11:52] <Seveas> bobesponja, desktop == live
[11:52] <sybariten> crap, i actually think i got slower speeds by using my closest ubuntu servers, than the american ones
[11:52] <Polibio> when I right-click, for example, a .pdf document, the sentence "Open with Acrobat Reader" appears two times.  How can I delete one of them?
[11:52] <avalente> gnomefreak: ah.. i did the update using the update-manager -d thing
[11:53] <livevil> do you know if I can download some kind of firewall from synaptic?
[11:53] <petrik> yct, 14 to go and they'll have missed deadline ;-)
[11:53] <mecca> quit
[11:53] <airblue> What should I use as a alternative?
[11:53] <r0xoR> mirak, i guess i'm funny today
[11:53] <mecca> oops
[11:53] <avalente> gnomefreak: I can't get the bug to be "confirmed" os that it might get fixed before relase:S
[11:53] <Spec> livevil: iptables
[11:53] <Seveas> airblue, help.ubuntu.com, wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:53] <bobesponja> Seveas: and do you know if there are going to call them desktop or live?
[11:53] <Seveas> bobesponja, desktop
[11:53] <airblue> Got it
[11:53] <yct> petrik, anyway, still better than visto, or vista or what they call it
[11:53] <bobesponja> Seveas: thanx
[11:53] <Knorrie> livevil: firestarter is nice for a simple firewall you can configure with a gui
[11:53] <iGama> livevil : www.easylinux.info check the site
[11:53] <mecca> hey another complete newbie question... i changed monitors from a 21" crt to a 16:9 20" apple cinema display and the right side of my screen is all horizontal bars
[11:53] <Spec> avalente: what bug?
[11:53] <Seveas> bobesponja, "live" and "install" are renamed to "desktop" and "alternate install"
[11:54] <lukketto> livevil: firestarter
[11:54] <mecca> is there a way to re-run the x config
[11:54] <mecca> to reflect the new changes and autodetect the monitor
[11:54] <mecca> ?
[11:54] <Spec> dpkg-reconfigure <packagename for x>
[11:54] <wold> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:54] <wold> ops
[11:54] <wold> :P
[11:54] <Polibio> when I right-click, for example, a .pdf document, the sentence "Open with Acrobat Reader" appears two times.  How can I delete one of them from the right click menu?
[11:54] <paul_> hey guys, how do i open up an xterm in root ?
[11:54] <avalente> spec 47017
[11:54] <airblue> livevil: Follow these instructions: Open a terminal (Applications -> Acessories -> Terminal)
[11:54] <paul_> (i want to be able to click an icon to open a rootterm)
[11:55] <bobesponja> Seveas: I'm writing an app that download the ubuntu iso with bittorrent and burn them automatically on windows with cdrecord.exe using a Qt4 gui, that's why I'm asking :)
[11:55] <mecca> Spec, in that instance would that be xserver-xorg or xserver-common?
[11:55] <mecca> as the pkg
[11:55] <_clem> paul_ : sudo xterm should go I guess..
[11:55] <Spec> as far as i know
[11:55] <paul_> thnx
[11:55] <gareth_> i have a friend who installed linux then deleted the linux partiton. But grubs still there and he can't boot into windows. What can he do?
[11:55] <Spec> bug #47017
[11:55] <mecca> Spec, its xserver-xorg... nm :)
[11:55] <Spec> give me the bug Ubugtu!
[11:55] <paul_> it worked
[11:55] <paul_> thank you guys l8r
[11:55] <gnomefreak> avalente: do you have the link for it?
[11:56] <avalente> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/47017
[11:56] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:56] <Spec> sucky bug
[11:56] <cached> 1 hour
[11:56] <darich> wooo just got me Dapper Drake working :)
[11:56] <Knorrie> darich: congrats
[11:56] <Mewshi> how do i install xine?
[11:56] <darich> Ati drivers..wireless and everything!
[11:56] <cached> sudo apt-get install xine ?
[11:56] <Polibio> if Ubuntu isn't yet finished, how can it be that they say in the ship it pages that "approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-05-24"??
[11:56] <visik7> Mewshi: apt-get install xine-ui ?
[11:57] <Mewshi> no, the libs...
[11:57] <Spec> apt-get install gxine
[11:57] <darich> thanks Knorrie btw
[11:57] <cached> polibio: you sure you didnt order breezy?
[11:57] <Spec> apt-get install libxine-extracodecs libxine-dev libxine-main1
[11:57] <darich> am a windows refugee
[11:57] <darich> so
[11:57] <crimsun> Polibio: they approved and sent your order on that date, not that they shipped it on that date.
[11:57] <darich> am loving Ubuntu a new challenge
[11:57] <avalente> Spec: i've used update-manager and changed nothing...maybe some package is removing the nvidia-glx one
[11:58] <jsb> ubotu tell jsb about ATI
[11:58] <Mewshi> libxine1c2 - the xine video/media player library, binary files
[11:58] <Mewshi>  <- this is what it says in apt-cache search xine, but when i use "Apt-get install libxinelc2" it says "Couldn't find package"
[11:58] <cached> hmm you are right
[11:58] <cached>     *  10 CDs requested in 2006-05-25. 10 CDs approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-05-30. Please note requests usually take from 4 to 6 weeks to deliver, depending on the country of shipping.
[11:58] <cached> 59 minutes
[11:58] <keherman> 59 minutes to what ?
[11:58] <Seveas> release will NOT be in 59 minutes
[11:58] <Seveas> 10 hours is more likely
[11:59] <Seveas> release team is going to bed RSN and will release after they woke up
[11:59] <Polibio> crimsun, but they say "sent to the shiping company"
[11:59] <yct> are they currently building it?:)
[11:59] <keherman> Seveas, can the torrent not be made and given out, so that immediately when the ISOs are there, it begins downloading?
[11:59] <Seveas> Polibio, wrong message 
[11:59] <crimsun> Polibio: your /order/
[11:59] <Polibio> ok,
[11:59] <todayisagift> how do install something i downloaded from the internet?
[11:59] <cached> seveas: why didnt they just make it a cron job
[11:59] <Spec> todayisagift: that question is too vague.
[11:59] <Seveas> cached, ROFL
[11:59] <keherman> todayisagift, what kind of file?
[12:00] <crimsun> yes, because all major releases can be crontabbed.