[12:05] <bobesponja> Flosoft:  I'm writing an app that download the ubuntu iso with bittorrent and burn them automatically on windows with cdrecord.exe using a Qt4 gui, that's why I'm asking :)
[12:05] <bobesponja> Flosoft: it looks like this http://p80.free.fr/getmydistro.png
[12:06] <Flosoft> nice
[12:06] <Flosoft> can I PM you ?
[12:06] <bobesponja> sure
[02:14] <kwwii> re
[02:15] <kwwii> Riddell: alles klar mit das Bild?
[02:15] <kwwii> erm...
[02:15] <kwwii> sorry
[02:15] <nixternal> hehe
[02:15] <kwwii> Riddell: did the pic work ok?
[02:44] <bobesponja> kwwii: I think Riddell is sleeping :)
[02:44] <kwwii> bobesponja: yeah, he is always doing the smart thing
[02:44] <kwwii> I think I will follow his example
[02:45] <kwwii> and then onward to D-land
[02:45] <kwwii> night all
[03:11] <jeroenvrp> are the torrents on e.g. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ the same torrents that will be used tomorrow!?
[03:14] <bobesponja> jeroenvrp: no
[03:14] <jeroenvrp> bobesponja: ok, I thought let's put the torrents allready on my pc
[03:15] <bobesponja> but they shouldn't be that different
[03:16] <bobesponja> tomorrow's will be like this: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-desktop-i386.iso.torrent 
[03:16] <jeroenvrp> bobesponja: thats not the problem, I allready have dapper
[03:16] <bobesponja> but they are not online yet
[03:16] <jeroenvrp> it's for other users
[03:16] <jeroenvrp> to help it seed
[03:16] <bobesponja> I see
[03:17] <bobesponja> do you have a nice server connection?
[03:17] <jeroenvrp> bobesponja: normal adsl
[03:18] <bobesponja> jeroenvrp: goe gaat :)
[03:18] <jeroenvrp> wa
[03:18] <jeroenvrp> oo
[03:18] <jeroenvrp> haha
[03:18] <jeroenvrp> hoe gaat het
[03:19] <jeroenvrp> or "gaat het goed? "
[03:19] <bobesponja> hmm not that far
[03:19] <jeroenvrp> yeah you were nearby
[03:19] <bobesponja> and hoe gaat met yow? or something
[03:19] <jeroenvrp> hoe gaat het met jou
[03:19] <jeroenvrp> or beter: hoe gaat het met je
[03:20] <bobesponja> hoe gaat he met je
[03:20] <bobesponja> k got it
[03:20] <jeroenvrp> or extra polite: hoe gaat met met u?
[03:20] <bobesponja> isn't there something like Sup? or what's up?
[03:20] <bobesponja> ie shorter
[03:20] <jeroenvrp> yeah
[03:21] <jeroenvrp> hoe is 't
[03:21] <jeroenvrp> or "hoe's't"
[03:21] <bobesponja> lol
[03:21] <bobesponja> cool
[03:21] <bobesponja> and how do you pronoounce that in English?
[03:21] <jeroenvrp> or"alles goed?  
[03:21] <bobesponja> oh ja
[03:21] <jeroenvrp> what you mean
[03:22] <bobesponja> hoe's't
[03:22] <jeroenvrp> ah
[03:22] <jeroenvrp> huust
[03:22] <bobesponja> k
[03:22] <jeroenvrp> no
[03:22] <jeroenvrp> whost
[03:22] <jeroenvrp> who'st
[03:22] <bobesponja> ok
[03:23] <jeroenvrp> it means: who are you
[03:23] <bobesponja> thanx for the lesson
[03:23] <jeroenvrp> now
[03:23] <jeroenvrp> how are you
[03:23] <jeroenvrp> have to go
[03:23] <jeroenvrp> going to bed
[03:23] <bobesponja> see ya
[03:23] <jeroenvrp> cheers
[04:05] <bddebian> Hello
[04:09] <bddebian> Heya imbrandon
[04:10] <imbrandon> heya bddebian
[04:10] <imbrandon> T - "hours" ;)
[04:11] <bddebian> ?
[04:11] <bddebian> Oh hehe :-)
[04:39] <imbrandon> who has ops in #ubuntu+1 , looks like ones is needed ( brainf*ck speech and such )
[05:16] <dickhall> is this the appropriate forum for talking about things like Katapult dev?
[05:16] <robotgeek> dickhall: you can talk to Mez, but he aint here
[05:17] <dickhall> okay
[05:17] <dickhall> Mez = martin?
[05:20] <dickhall> I started dabbling with it today, my first Qt/KDE project and my first C++ in a while. Trying to get it to act more like Quicksilver on the mac by having it keep a running list of best matches (in order) you can scroll through by hitting down
[05:22] <dickhall> got a good part of the way through it, but it keeps segfaulting now and I can't figure out why. 'tis probably just some API I'm messing up, more Qt/KDE specific than katapult
[05:22] <dickhall> but it'd be good to talk to someone involved with the project just to sanity check. what time zone is Mez in?
[05:23] <robotgeek> dickhall: not sure, sorry. i think there are forums now?
[05:24] <dickhall> there's a wiki, lemme check there
[05:24] <dickhall> do you know what times you usally see mez?
[05:25] <robotgeek> dickhall: nope, i've been erratic of late
[05:25] <dickhall> no prob, thanks anyway
[05:27] <robotgeek> http://forums.thekatapult.org.uk/ dickhall 
[06:06] <robotgeek> hi Mez , dickhall was looking for you
[06:07] <Mez> know y?
[06:07] <robotgeek> Mez: katapult foo/ 
[06:07] <Mez> ah - tell him http://forums.thekatapult.org.uk next time
[06:08] <robotgeek> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/750572 
[06:08] <robotgeek> he's here, we should ping dickhall again :)
[07:10] <dickhall> hey
[08:46] <kwwii> Riddell: ping?
[08:49] <kwwii> I hope that the release announcement pic worked out well
[08:50] <kwwii> be back tomorrow
[08:50] <kwwii> or late tonight
[09:25] <\sh_away> where is 6.06 ?
[09:26] <OdyX> !seen 6.06
[09:27] <imbrandon> \sh, not quite there yet 
[09:27] <seaLne> probably what you have :)
[09:30] <Lure> \sh: [09:15]  <Kamion> Burgundavia: at minimum we're waiting on me having breakfast and getting into the office.
[09:30] <Lure> ;-)
[09:36] <seaLne> hehe
[09:37] <\sh> now I need an excuse for my buddies here...they want to download
[09:38] <Lure> \sh: they can download from cdimage.u.c
[09:38] <Lure> (latest daily)
[09:40] <\sh> Lure: we were communicating the official release channels...well, anyways...waiting for official releases and start my mirror
[10:08] <verwilst> so it's any hour now? ;)
[10:08] <imbrandon> yup
[10:08] <verwilst> jaj! :)
[10:12] <OdyX> it'll be last hour in last timezone... 
[10:15] <mornfall> is it supposed to be today? :-)
[11:10] <Riddell> seaLne: about?
[11:14] <seaLne> Riddell: yep
[11:15] <Riddell> seaLne: want to fire up a bittorrent on your elite bandwidth?
[11:15] <Riddell> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dapper/
[11:15] <seaLne> doh i was looking on cdimage for them
[11:18] <seaLne> checking md5s to make sure i have them first
[11:21] <verwilst> hooray!
[11:21] <Lure> congrats to everyone!
[11:22] <seaLne> Riddell: where are the torrents for the DVDs?
[11:23] <verwilst> woohoow, 4 meg per second :)
[11:23] <Riddell> Kubuntu 6.06 LTS has been released!  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.06-lts-release.php
[11:23] <Riddell> seaLne: not out yet, let me ask what's happening
[11:24] <seaLne> Problem connecting to tracker - (111, 'Connection refused')
[11:24] <seaLne> hmm
[11:24] <seaLne> Riddell: ^
[11:25] <MidMark> contratulations! Very good work!
[11:25] <Lure> Riddell: FAQ does not mention dapper in sources.list http://kubuntu.org/faq.php
[11:26] <Lure> Riddell: and docu links are old: http://kubuntu.org/documentation.php
[11:26] <seaLne> verwilst: i take it the torrents are working for you?
[11:26] <Riddell> Lure: give me a chance :)
[11:26] <verwilst> i used ftp :)
[11:27] <verwilst> it's in
[11:27] <verwilst> want me to share with bittorrent too?
[11:27] <Lure> Riddell: ok - though these are left-out...
[11:28] <seaLne> rejected by tracker - Requested download is not authorized for use with
[11:29] <Riddell> seaLne: working for me
[11:29] <Riddell> well, three of them ar
[11:29] <Riddell> are
[11:29] <seaLne> ah, a few of them have just started working
[11:29] <verwilst> i'm downloading desktop & alternate, i386 and amd64 version
[11:29] <verwilst> just to share it
[11:30] <verwilst> since i ftp'ed my own copy of kubuntu-alternate already ;)
[11:31] <verwilst> i hope bittorrent will work since i'm behind the company NAT gateways :)
[11:33] <seaLne> all torrents seem happy now
[11:34] <Riddell> seaLne: great
[11:34] <MidMark> where are linked in download page? I can't see them
[11:34] <seaLne> but i guess no one is downloading yet
[11:34] <seaLne> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/dapper/
[11:35] <verwilst> uploading works as well :)
[11:35] <MidMark> I mean dvd where are linked?
[11:35] <verwilst> sweeet
[11:36] <verwilst> hehe uploading @250kb/sec
[11:36] <verwilst> download +- 2
[11:36] <verwilst> :p
[11:38] <seaLne> MidMark: maybe kubuntu would be a better place for your questions
[11:38] <seaLne> #kubuntu
[11:38] <MidMark> ok
[11:42] <seaLne> Riddell: on announcement in Netboot Install you link to non existant wiki page
[11:43] <seaLne> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Installation/Netboot maybe?
[11:44] <Riddell> We probably needs a Kubuntu netboot install
[11:45] <Riddell> that basicly just points to the preseed file
[11:58] <seaLne> installing gnome-desktop sets gnome to the default in kdm
[11:58] <seaLne> i guess its using x-window-manager
[12:05] <seaLne> well i'm only uploading at 2.1MiB/s so there isn't that much demand
[12:06] <seaLne> no one seems to want ppc interestingly
[12:07] <OdyX> seaLne: well.. i386 isn't much demanded too
[12:07] <seaLne> 1.2Mib from me
[12:08] <seaLne> oh + .7
[12:08] <OdyX> and bizarely, alternate is more disponible than desktop
[12:12] <verwilst> i like alternate better
[12:13] <verwilst> it's far faster to install with the textbased install
[12:13] <OdyX> verwilst: as do I, but I download both... :D
[12:13] <verwilst> i'm downloading 4
[12:13] <verwilst> just to feed the torrents :)
[12:14] <OdyX> that's it... But I first have to download...
[12:14] <OdyX> I think I'll download them directly now...
[12:14] <OdyX> and then feed.
[12:14] <OdyX> It'll be better, huh ?
[12:15] <verwilst> uh can you do that?
[12:15] <OdyX> well.. With good clients it should be possible....
[12:24] <imbrandon> !?!! [05:23]  [473]  #ubuntu+1 You need to be invited to that channel
[12:35] <jeroenvrp> congratulations to all the devs!!
[12:36] <Riddell> thanks jeroenvrp 
[12:54] <Riddell> seaLne: DVDs starting to appear http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release/
[12:54] <seaLne> i take it they are 20060531.1 ?
[12:55] <Riddell> yes
[12:55] <Riddell> renamed
[12:56] <seaLne> md5ing dvds takes too long :)
[12:56] <Riddell> I did that over NFS at my uni once, sysadmin wasn't too happy with me
[12:57] <seaLne> why are the dvds in that extra release dir?
[12:57] <seaLne> err ignore me
[12:59] <seaLne> i'd misread that as beingon eleases.u.c
[12:59] <Riddell> no room on releases.u.c for DVDs
[01:00] <seaLne> oh?
[01:00] <seaLne> how will users know then?
[01:00] <Riddell> linked to from kubuntu.org/download.php
[01:01] <seaLne> ah
[01:01] <Riddell> but most users don't need the DVD
[01:01] <seaLne> confusing tho
[01:01] <Riddell> yes
[01:01] <seaLne> breezy dvd was downloaded way more than cd via bt
[01:03] <OdyX> tracker's bad for "alternate"....
[01:03] <seaLne> OdyX: ?
[01:04] <OdyX> seaLne: I don't know... I get errors...
[01:04] <OdyX> * Tracker: [couldn't connect to server] 
[01:04] <seaLne> i got that originally then after a bit it started working
[01:04] <seaLne> you behind a firewall?
[01:04] <Riddell> OdyX: keep trying, the data centre it pretty busy
[01:04] <OdyX> not as far as I now...
[01:04] <OdyX> Riddell: and that's good :D
[01:05] <seaLne> yeah it would definitly be bad if no one was downloading :)
[01:05] <OdyX> Riddell: do you have usage graphs ?
[01:06] <Riddell> nope
[01:06] <Riddell> sysadmins do but we don't get to see them
[01:06] <OdyX> could be fine to see "Dapper boom"
[01:12] <seaLne> Riddell: you didn't send the announcement mail to  
[01:12] <seaLne> ubuntu-announce?
[01:12] <Riddell> apparantly we're not getting an announcement on ubuntu-announce :(
[01:14] <seaLne> good way to restart the ubuntu dosen't really care about kde thread again :-/
[01:14] <OdyX> seaLne: ...
[01:14] <Riddell> yes
[01:15] <OdyX> seaLne: read sabdfl's announce: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/45
[01:15] <OdyX> seaLne: you'll see Xubuntu, SPARC, Debian....
[01:15] <OdyX> but no "K"
[01:16] <ajmitch_> OdyX: that's because SPARC support & xubuntu are new
[01:16] <OdyX> ajmitch_: sure they are... But Kubuntu 5.10 was nothing compared to this killing 6.06 LTS...
[01:16] <ajmitch_> you don't see him thanking the MOTUs either, or the art team
[01:16] <OdyX> ajmitch_: sure...
[01:17] <ajmitch_> so should I kick up a fuss now because I was ignored? :)
[01:17] <seaLne> yep :)
[01:17] <OdyX> ajmitch_: as don't I...
[01:19] <OdyX> ajmitch_: . . .
[01:32] <verwilst> hm,  i'm seeding the torrents with over 1meg per second
[01:33] <marseillai> seaLne: kubuntu still can't be install on sparc?
[01:33] <Riddell> marseillai: did you try?
[01:34] <marseillai> Riddell: i'll have my sparc tomorrow normally so i'll test this week end if everything is fine!
[01:34] <marseillai> but if it doesn't work i think i'll try debian at least to test hardware
[01:38] <Hobbsee> hey all
[01:38] <Riddell> morning Hobbsee 
[01:39] <Hobbsee> hey Riddell - release didnt exhaust you too much, i see :)
[01:40] <Riddell> I seem to be all in one piece
[01:40] <Hobbsee> hehe oh good :P
[01:42] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, you should have seen #ubuntu it was a mad house to say the leaste
[01:42] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: hehe!  i'll bet it was.  I was at uni, actually doing the assignment that i'd been putting off...
[01:43] <imbrandon> heh
[01:43] <imbrandon> ahh
[01:43] <Riddell> I appreciate all questions
[01:44] <Hobbsee> Riddell: even this one?  when will we see edgy repos open?
[01:46] <Riddell> hah, I had a timer running to see when someone would ask that :)
[01:46] <imbrandon> heheh
[01:46] <Hobbsee> Riddell: glad to see that i never disappoint :D
[01:47] <Lure> we all want some edgy fun - dapper is boring ;-)
[01:47] <Riddell> in answer, I've no idea, whenever the soyuz admins press the big green button I think
[01:48] <Hobbsee> Lure: very true.  who needs stability anyway :P
[01:48] <Hobbsee> just dont let it mess up my grub!
[01:48] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ah okay :P
[01:48] <Hobbsee> Riddell: so how far did the timer get?
[01:48] <Riddell> 2 hours and 48 minutes
[01:48] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:48] <Hobbsee> @time
[01:48] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: June 01 2006, 11:48:59
[01:49] <Hobbsee> not bad, not bad at all...
[01:49] <apokryphos> Riddell: congratulations on a great release :)
[01:50] <apokryphos> (the announcement page looks really great, too; will be nice to hand people that)
[01:50] <imbrandon> yea all of kubuntu.org looks alot better
[01:50] <imbrandon> ;)
[01:52] <Riddell> better than the cheesy stock "support bloke" photo on ubuntu.com?
[01:52] <apokryphos> oh yeah ;-)
[01:52] <apokryphos> one of the first things I thought, too
[01:52] <Hobbsee> hmmm...looks very nice :)
[01:52] <Hobbsee> and i'm not the model - yay!
[01:53] <apokryphos> now, doesn't he look so understanding :D
[01:53] <apokryphos> they changed the desktop and server picture I see
[01:53] <apokryphos> they had some stock photos for those too
[02:04] <Hobbsee> silly ndiswrapper, losing the connection.  or silly telstra.  whichever.
[02:04] <Riddell> screen is your friend
[02:04] <Riddell> (so long as you have a server with a decent connection and don't mind lag)
[02:04] <Hobbsee> bleck.  lag is evil
[02:04] <Hobbsee> and i cant do much if the ISP goes down for a bit.
[02:05] <Riddell> true
[02:05] <Hobbsee> mind you, i *do* have the wired connection here, so am not totally stranded if/when ndiswrapper borks
[02:05] <Hobbsee> that takes out the phone, and the net connection - what fun!  :P
[02:06] <seaLne> marseillai: well i only tried what became the release image on blade100 and ultra10
[02:07] <seaLne> Hobbsee: i'd thought about asking about edgy last night but thought better of it :)
[02:08] <Hobbsee> seaLne: hehe.  i always run such risks :P  And have people wanting to shoot me, as a consequence :P
[02:09] <Riddell> seaLne: it's not been released on sparc
[02:09] <Riddell> Hobbsee: don't you have an elite university connection available?
[02:09] <seaLne> Riddell: ok technically i suppose :)
[02:10] <seaLne> ultra10s don't like cdrws i discovered
[02:10] <Hobbsee> Riddell: sure.  but that's at uni.  and i finally came home.
[02:10] <Hobbsee> and it's kinda slow, and the tech people are really freaky, and can look at what you're doing on the screen.
[02:11] <Hobbsee> oh, and lock you out of the uni system.   which would suck.
[02:11] <Riddell> do they have vnc running or something?
[02:12] <seaLne> Hobbsee: but.. but.. but suspending accounts is the fun part of the job :)
[02:12] <Hobbsee> Riddell: i've got no idea...i've not been able to poke around too much - mainly because they have better security than school did, and that they have the ability to send out scary men who come and glare at you, and to lock you out
[02:12] <Hobbsee> seaLne: hehe
[02:13] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[02:14] <seaLne> a applet i had written took down the server it was running on
[02:14] <marseillai> Riddell: there is a mistake here : http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[02:14] <marseillai> a big mistake
[02:14] <Hobbsee> hehe!  nice!
[02:14] <seaLne> unfortunatly this was the main shell server
[02:15] <Riddell> marseillai: hmm?
[02:15] <marseillai> Bittorrent point on http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/breezy/release/dvd/ instead of http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release/dvd/
[02:15] <imbrandon> whoops
[02:15] <Riddell> well spotted, fixed
[02:15] <seaLne> its a test to see if they deserve the dvd
[02:15] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:15] <imbrandon> heh
[02:16] <imbrandon> the dvd IS just the livecd+textinstall correct ?
[02:16] <Riddell> the breezy torrents will be dead anyway
[02:16] <Riddell> imbrandon: plus "supported"
[02:16] <imbrandon> supported ? 
[02:16] <seaLne> so even worse, it takes for ever to download the wrong dvd :)
[02:16] <Riddell> everything else in main
[02:16] <imbrandon> ahh
[02:17] <seaLne> does it install anymore?
[02:17] <imbrandon> so kubuntu-desktop/ubuntu-dekstop etc etc etc all on there ( well the packages to make them )
[02:17] <imbrandon> but it installs / boots kubuntu by default ?
[02:18] <seaLne> yeah seperate k/ubuntu dvds
[02:18] <Hobbsee> Riddell: not if enough silly users go and download the wrong release :P
[02:18] <Riddell> imbrandon: only kubuntu on there
[02:19] <imbrandon> seaLne, yea i ment more if i pop in the kubuntu dvd and install it , then later "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" would it grab it from the dvd ( as long as the package wasent updated )
[02:19] <imbrandon> ahh ok Riddell
[02:20] <imbrandon> i have a local dapper mirror on my lan anyhow so no need for the dvd ;)
[02:20] <seaLne> imbrandon: you mean to say you haven't installed dapper yet?
[02:20] <imbrandon> seaLne, yea i've been running dapper months
[02:21] <imbrandon> was just curious
[02:21] <imbrandon> since flight 5 or so
[02:21] <imbrandon> ;)
[02:21] <seaLne> just checking :P
[02:22] <imbrandon> yea just curious so when they ask me in #kubuntu i know the correct awnser ;)
[02:23] <seaLne> Riddell: have you thought about making a full content RSS feed?
[02:24] <Hobbsee> ack!  no more network borking!
[02:25] <Riddell> seaLne: nope, I suppose I could although the rss feed is made by hand so it would increase the chances of me messing it up somewhere
[02:25] <Riddell> I wonder if the server is set up to let me do rss with php
[02:26] <imbrandon> riddell i could whip up a php rss feed if the thing is coming from a db
[02:26] <imbrandon> which i hope it is
[02:26] <Hobbsee> whatever you do, dont start doing a rss feed that only has the topic, and nothing about it - that's annoying...
[02:26] <imbrandon> Riddell, http://www.imbrandon.com/rss.xml is a php scipt xml feed, very easy to make
[02:27] <imbrandon> heheh Hobbsee yea , but he said full content ;)
[02:27] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: i know :P
[02:28] <Riddell> Hobbsee: worst thing about kde dot news I know
[02:28] <Hobbsee> they're not alone in doing it, unfortunately.  but yeah
[02:29] <seaLne> can save a lot of bandwidth for stupid rss clients tho
[02:30] <Riddell> imbrandon: that's taken from a database though is'nt it?
[02:30] <imbrandon> yea a mysql db
[02:30] <seaLne> interesting rss reader figures from bloglines fridge: 88 kubuntu: 65 and ubuntu planet: 108 subscribers
[02:31] <Riddell> we're almost up there with fridge!
[02:32] <Riddell> Hobbsee: if you hvae elite uni bandwidth you could bittorrent the images
[02:33] <Hobbsee> Riddell: i dont, it's even worse there than at home
[02:33] <Hobbsee> and i'm not eager to get on the wrong side of big giants again...
[02:33] <imbrandon> heh i got them seeding off buntudot.org ;)
[02:37] <Riddell> imbrandon: what's intended for that domain?
[02:38] <imbrandon> Riddell, a buntu radio show / central news site 
[02:39] <imbrandon> with a slashdot type news interface but i'm doing it by hand becouse 1) i want php and slashcode is perl and 2) slashcode is the suxors
[02:40] <imbrandon> TheMuso and me were thinking about a weekly podcast type radio thing from a buntu team member per week, like you or mdz , sabdfl etc etc etc
[02:40] <Riddell> ambitious
[02:41] <Riddell> seaLne: whatever happened to behind ubuntu?
[02:41] <imbrandon> still in the works heheh thus the blank page , but i just reg'd the domain two days ago and just started the php code today
[02:44] <seaLne> Riddell: apparently french is so hard a language to translate stuff into a month after other translations were done it still isn't finished
[02:44] <seaLne> Riddell: honest i'm not serverly pissed off with them
[02:47] <goldenear> seaLne: what's wrong with french ?
[02:48] <Riddell> seaLne: ust set a deadline and say you're not waiting
[02:48] <Riddell> just
[02:49] <goldenear> seaLne: what translation do you need ?
[02:49] <seaLne> i plan to on the next meeting on monday, first deadline for kinnison was missed with the excuse of not realising that when i sent them the interview and they agreed a publishing date that they should actually translate it, then more broken promises for the last few weeks
[02:50] <seaLne> goldenear: got germna, danish and chinese done for this interview and apparently french is nearly done
[02:51] <goldenear> ok
[02:51] <seaLne> goldenear: are you french?
[02:51] <goldenear> yes
[02:51] <goldenear> (but don't say it to anybody ;) )
[02:52] <Hobbsee> what are we going to do about this?  apparently it's still happening.https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/39658
[02:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 39658 in kubuntu-meta "[dist-upgrader]  dist-upgrade wants to delete almost kde packages while migrating from breezy to dapper" [Major,Confirmed]  
[02:52] <Lure> Hobbsee: would be naice to fix with -updates, but not sure if possible at all
[02:53] <seaLne> wouldn't -updates be too late?
[02:53] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:53] <Hobbsee> guess it would..
[02:53] <seaLne> i thought about looking at it and quickly realised i wouldn't have a clue :(
[02:54] <Hobbsee> you'd have to force kubuntu-desktop to be installed, after it'd done all of that
[02:55] <Hobbsee> removing kdelibs would force all the kde packages to be removed - that much is obvious - but how to force kubuntu desktop ot be installed at the end?
[02:55] <seaLne> wouldn't the solution be not having it removed in the first place?
[02:55] <Lure> seaLne: why? when user changes breezy->dapper it will get also new updates - it does not help for users that already did upgrade (but there is workaround to cure it)
[02:55] <goldenear> Hobbsee: "My sources.list is very common : I only added [...]  the kubuntu.org updates for Amarok, kde 3.5.2 and koffice" <-- that might be the problem ?
[02:55] <seaLne> nope same with and without
[02:56] <Lure> seaLne: exactly - not sure why kdelibs get removed...
[02:56] <Hobbsee> Lure: they wont think to try to upgrade again, when they lose x
[02:56] <seaLne> Lure: it dosen't
[02:56] <Hobbsee> Lure: because kdelibs4c2a replaces it
[02:56] <Hobbsee> i expect
[02:56] <seaLne> ah it does?
[02:56] <Lure> then the problem is that kdelibs4c2a needs to "Provides/Replaces" kdelibs and we should be fine...
[02:57] <Lure> Riddell: ^^^
[02:57] <Hobbsee> what's the breezy version of kdelibs?
[02:57] <Hobbsee> what's it called?
[02:57] <Lure> Hobbsee: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/kde/kdelibs
[02:58] <Lure> but there is also http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/kdelibs4c2
[02:58] <Lure> so this is probably not the case for removal...
[02:58] <seaLne> kdelibs4c2 is one of the removed things
[02:58] <seaLne> see the top of http://librarian.launchpad.net/2923982/breezy2dapper-20050525.txt
[02:58] <seaLne> ignore the error at the bottom of that hard disk was about to fail
[03:04] <Hobbsee_> my connection almightly sucks tonight!
[03:04] <Hobbsee_> Lure: did you find out your answer?  i did
[03:04] <Hobbsee> and that time my net connection didnt go down...well, it did - then the keyboard input stopped.
[03:15] <Riddell> toma_rfg: what does Gilles Caulier do in KDE?
[03:16] <jsgotangco> Riddell: congratulations :)
[03:17] <bobesponja> Riddell: digikam
[03:21] <Riddell> jsgotangco: thanks :)
[03:21] <jjesse> just download LTS desktop and gettign ready to load in virtual machine, just wanted to say congrats on getting it released :)
[03:24] <Riddell> jjesse: say that again when you have it lodaed :)
[03:24] <jjesse> grin will do
[03:24] <jsgotangco> heh
[03:24] <jsgotangco> its actually running in one of my machines
[03:24] <jsgotangco> BIG IMPROVEMENT
[03:25] <jsgotangco> light years ahead
[03:28] <seaLne> bah i can't print anymore, zero sized output
[03:44] <Hobbsee> Lure: pnig.
[03:44] <Hobbsee> ping
[03:45] <imbrandon> [08:44]  <[HUN] Big_T> can anyone help me with my ubuntu install? i get an error message when the system root is mounting: cdrom_pc_intr: the drive appears confused
[03:45] <imbrandon> ^^ anyone got a clue ?
[03:47] <imbrandon> Riddell, ping ..... any idea or know whom to ask ?
[03:49] <jjesse> imbrandon: ar eyou using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?  did you ask on kubuntu-users or ubuntu-users ?
[03:50] <imbrandon> jjesse, kubuntu ... from the #kubuntu chan , i had him clarify
[03:52] <imbrandon> k i'm off to sleep ..... gnight all
[03:53] <Riddell> imbrandon: I've no ideas
[03:54] <imbrandon> np someone else helped him ( something about a bios setting for his cdrom drive )
[03:59] <bddebian> Howdy
[03:59] <Hobbsee> hi bddebian (again)
[04:00] <bddebian> :-)
[04:00] <bddebian> w00t
[04:00] <Hobbsee> better catch it - you dont want that to smash :P
[04:00] <Hobbsee> midn you, smashing stuff up is FUN :D
[04:00] <seaLne> bddebian: watch out its full of petrol and has a burning rag hanging out
[04:01] <Hobbsee> especially when you have lovely yellow liquid that then ends up staining everything, including lab notes :P
[04:01] <bddebian> seaLne: lol
[04:01] <bddebian> Hobbsee: You peed on your homework?
[04:01] <Hobbsee> it was cesium or something...
[04:04] <jjesse> wow kubuntu.org is ssssssssslllllllllllllllooooooooooowwwwwwww
[04:04] <sebas> Hardly surprising :)
[04:05] <Riddell> the whole datacentre will be
[04:05] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:05] <jjesse> grin i can't imagine the total size transfered/downloaded today will b
[04:10] <OdyX> jjesse: that's probably "a lot"
[04:10] <OdyX> :D
[04:11] <bobesponja> hey all
[04:12] <seaLne> well i've uploaded 30G via bt so far :)
[04:12] <jjesse> wow
[04:12] <bobesponja> I wrote a little app for windows users so they can download and burn Kubuntu easily with only one click
[04:13] <bobesponja> here is the annoucement http://getmydistro.blogspot.com/2006/06/getmydistro-01-released.html
[04:13] <bobesponja> and the screenshot http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7632/1531/1600/getmydistro3.png
[04:15] <seaLne> cool, that looks quite simple to use
[04:16] <OdyX> bobesponja: that seems good.
[04:16] <bobesponja> it uses bittorrent
[04:16] <bobesponja> well the basic python bittorrent client
[04:17] <OdyX> bobesponja: seems to miss an icon, huh ?
[04:17] <bobesponja> yep, I'm not an artist
[04:17] <bobesponja> OdyX: if you can get me one that would be cool
[04:17] <bobesponja> I tried it on my laptop and on my desktop but more testing would be welcome
[04:19] <goldenear> bobesponja: where is the button to format the harddrive (removing windows) before rebooting on the CD ? ;)
[04:19] <bobesponja> goldenear: lol yeah that's for 0.2 ;)
[04:20] <goldenear>  bobesponja: good news :D
[04:20] <goldenear> lol
[04:20] <bobesponja> goldenear: actually I thought about that, but kubuntu installer can do it so
[04:23] <goldenear> bobesponja: I know, I was kidding :)
[04:26] <bobesponja> Riddell: maybe you could post about it (http://getmydistro.blogspot.com/2006/06/getmydistro-01-released.html) on the download page of kubuntu.org :)
[04:34] <Riddell> bobesponja: very interesting, I can't put it on kubuntu.org without testing it but I'll put it in my blog and see what people make of it
[04:34] <bobesponja> Riddell: thanx
[04:35] <Riddell> bobesponja: is the source available?
[04:35] <Riddell> yeah, I see it
[04:35] <seaLne> the download seems extremly slow
[04:36] <imbrandon> yea i think the servers are /.'d heh
[04:36] <imbrandon> kubuntu.org is ungodly slow right now
[04:36] <seaLne> i ment bobesponjas thing
[04:37] <seaLne> imbrandon: that must have been a very short sleep
[04:37] <imbrandon> never went to sleep yet, went to bed and couldent sleep
[04:37] <imbrandon> lol
[04:37] <imbrandon> so i grabed a soda and will go back to bed soon ;)
[04:38] <bobesponja> I'm uploading it to another mirror
[04:38] <bobesponja> seaLne: http://p80.free.fr/Setup.exe
[04:39] <seaLne> 2/3 so not worth changing now i guess
[04:45] <seaLne> bobesponja: i get a download failed, does it try to access a web page?
[04:45] <seaLne> (after clicking the get kubuntu button)
[04:48] <bobesponja> seaLne: no, it trys to download the torrent file first
[04:48] <bobesponja> seaLne: try again
[04:49] <seaLne> i guess if it tries to download from a website it will fail if you are behind a proxy
[04:49] <bobesponja> seaLne: aer you behind a proxy?
[04:49] <seaLne> well i need to use a proxy for port 80 access
[04:50] <seaLne> so i guess i'm not a very good test for you
[04:51] <bobesponja> I think I'm gonna include the torrent into the app
[04:52] <seaLne> bobesponja: it might be worth asking the sysadmins whether they ever change the torrent file
[04:52] <bobesponja> seaLne: yes
[04:52] <bobesponja> seaLne: do all the downloads fail for you?
[04:53] <seaLne> i think worrying about proxies is maybe beyond the need of most of the users for your program
[04:53] <seaLne> yes
[04:55] <bobesponja> seaLne: yes I guess so, plus proxy are usually used at work not at home and this kind of app is used at home
[04:55] <bobesponja> seaLne: do you have a proxy at home? :)
[04:55] <seaLne> no, but i don't have windows at home
[04:56] <bobesponja> well actually it's just a Qt4 app so it should compile on linux
[04:56] <bobesponja> seaLne: I'm gonna try to make it work on linux maybe I'll get more testers
[04:57] <seaLne> you might get more testers but probably not more users
[05:46] <cmvo> Riddell and all the others: Congratulations and thanks for Kubuntu 6.06!
[05:47] <nixternal> dito from me...good job, and thanks for letting me test with it...thanks for the support....thanks for the community...as we say in the navy, Bravo Zulu...Congratulations on a job well done!!!
[05:47] <Hobbsee> hi cmvo 
[05:47] <Hobbsee> and nixternal 
[05:47] <nixternal> hey Hobbsee
[05:47] <cmvo> Hi Hobbsee!
[05:47] <nixternal> im still in the process of uncrossing my eyes this morning
[05:47] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:48] <nixternal> coffee is working very slowly this morning
[05:48] <cmvo> Hobbsee: Whats you local time 23:48?
[05:48] <Hobbsee> cmvo: um...
[05:48] <Hobbsee> @time sydney
[05:48] <Ubugtu> Current time in Australia/Sydney: June 02 2006, 01:49:00
[05:49] <Hobbsee> there you go
[05:49] <Hobbsee> crud, i was going to go to bed before 2am today...
[05:49] <nixternal> let me guess..gotta be at work at 7am too ey Hobbsee?
[05:49] <Hobbsee> nixternal: er...no, first lecture is at 10...
[05:49] <nixternal> my daughters godmother lives somewhere around Sidney...supposed to go out and visit soon
[05:49] <cmvo> Hobbsee:  Ah, thanks. Then you got all the right to be sleepy :-)
[05:49] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:49] <Hobbsee> i sure do :P
[05:50] <nixternal> so you can sleep to 9:50 then ;)
[05:50] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:50] <bobesponja> Riddell: you can test it on linux now http://getmydistro.blogspot.com/2006/06/getmydistro-for-gnulinux.html
[05:50] <Hobbsee> not and make it on time...
[05:50] <nixternal> hehe
[05:50] <bobesponja> http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7632/1531/1600/gnulinux.png :)
[05:50] <nixternal> i didn't say anything about making it on time...you can make it though ;)
[05:51] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:51] <Hobbsee> like i did todya...yes...
[05:51] <Hobbsee> hmmm...what was it...about 5 hours and 15 mins late?
[05:51] <bobesponja> seaLne: here it is http://p80.free.fr/gnulingetmydistro.tar.bz2
[05:52] <nixternal> 5 hours and 15 minutes late...and the lecture was still going on?  if that's true, thank god you were that late, cuz you would have probably fallin' asleep
[05:53] <Hobbsee> nixternal: no, was a different lecture by that point.
[05:53] <nixternal> i swear...digg and slashdot have 2 purposes...render websites useless
[05:53] <nixternal> probably a different day too ;)
[05:54] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:54] <Hobbsee> no, just a different lecture...
[05:55] <nixternal> at least you made it...thats a good start ;)
[05:56] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:59] <nixternal> nite Hobbsee
[05:59] <Hobbsee> night nixternal 
[05:59] <cmvo> Hobbsee: bye!
[06:06] <Hobbsee> hey Lure 
[06:09] <nixternal> how come the kubuntuforums.net aren't up to date???  no release stuff whatsoever on the front page
[06:09] <Hobbsee> nixternal: we dont run them, i expect
[06:09] <Hobbsee> kubuntu.org is up to date - forums are by other people.
[06:09] <nixternal> i kinda figured that
[06:09] <nixternal> cuz the look is different
[06:10] <seaLne> nixternal: i see stuff about dapper and 353 on that site
[06:10] <nixternal> dapper rc...not final
[06:10] <nixternal> 3.5.3 was the last post
[06:11] <seaLne> ah, so it is
[06:11] <nixternal> hehe
[06:11] <seaLne> maybe the forum admins aren't home from school yet
[06:11] <nixternal> it is funny..people in the forums are complaining that downloading release candidate is slow today...LOL...i wonder why...
[06:11] <Lure> hi Hobbsee
[06:11] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:12] <Hobbsee> nixternal: that's the advantage of testing - the repos are all pretty fast
[06:12] <Hobbsee> usually not mirrored though
[06:12] <Hobbsee> so grabbing kde 3.5.3 was pretty fast - we got it before everyone else :D
[06:12] <nixternal> no..the thing is...they are griping about RC today, when it is posted that the final is out
[06:12] <Hobbsee> true.  weird.
[06:12] <seaLne> maybe different time zone?
[06:12] <nixternal> hehe...i think besides Riddell i was next to install it...i was campin' out when Riddell posted it
[06:13] <Hobbsee> yep
[06:13] <nixternal> hehe
[06:13] <nixternal> im lovin' 3.5.3
[06:13] <Hobbsee> after 3.5 beta2...ouchy...
[06:13] <nixternal> it is quicker for me at least
[06:13] <Hobbsee> right.  i'm off.
[06:13] <nixternal> ya..3.5 beta2 was an ouch..but Riddell reassured me that it wasn't the same
[06:13] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:13] <nixternal> hehe
[06:13] <Lure> nixternal: yes 3.5.3 is much faster on startup
[06:14] <nixternal> night Hobbsee
[06:14] <nixternal> for real this time
[06:14] <nixternal> 3.5.3 is quicker all around for me...and yes definately faster on startup
[06:18] <nixternal> it doesn't seem that many people downloading are grabbing torrents...direct http/ftp downloads i guess...i haven't served that much since i went to sleep last night
[06:27] <OdyX> nixternal: I can hardly download... But I'll seed as soon as possible...
[06:27] <nixternal> nobody realling is grabbing it...im watching both of my seeds now...and they just aren't doing much
[06:27] <nixternal> right now im a 0.0kb upload
[06:28] <nixternal> my torrent download is flying
[06:28] <OdyX> Rate:  26.2 /   3.0 KB
[06:28] <OdyX> Up/Dow
[06:29] <nixternal> im at 1003 / 9 kb right now
[06:40] <\sh> 23
[06:48] <Tonio_> hey ;)
[07:17] <seth> mornfall, ping?
[07:17] <mornfall> seth: semi-pong
[07:17] <mornfall> what's up
[07:17] <seth> mornfall, quick question... guy in #kubuntu is trying to use adept to yoink java and gets http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9812/snapshot25do.png
[07:17] <seth> and I don't know how to tell him to hit OK
[07:17] <seth> he says pressing Enter does nothing
[07:18] <mornfall> that's lame :|
[07:18] <mornfall> well, clicking into the konsole and hitting enter still doesn't help i assume?
[07:18] <seth> nope :(
[07:18] <mornfall> no idea then
[07:18] <seth> I'll just tell him to cancel and install java via cli
[07:18] <seth> okay
[07:18] <seth> sorry to bother
[07:19] <seth> thanks :)
[07:19] <mornfall> i knew the hidden konsole thing would generate trouble
[07:19] <mornfall> i could probably crank out a fix
[07:19] <mornfall> hmm
[07:19] <mornfall> now as i think of it
[07:19] <mornfall> shame it's a bit late :p
[07:26] <mornfall> --> pub
[07:26] <mornfall> later
[07:30] <jpatrick> cya
[07:30] <seaLne> Riddell: you seen there is a xubuntu announcement on ubuntu-announce?
[07:42] <OdyX> seaLne: could you maybe stop trolling ? XD
[07:42] <jpatrick> OdyX: lol
[07:42] <seaLne> :P
[07:42] <OdyX> jpatrick: yop
[07:43] <jpatrick> ownage I see
[07:43] <jpatrick> say*
[07:45] <jpatrick> seaLne: kubuntu announcement @ kubuntu-devel
[07:45] <seaLne> thats not the point
[07:46] <jpatrick> It is now...
[07:46] <jpatrick> ;)
[07:59] <kmon> hi
[07:59] <kmon> thanks for dapper ;)
[08:00] <jpatrick> kmon: yo
[08:00] <kmon> hi jpatrick
[08:03] <kmon> Riddell: thanks for fixing kde 3.5.3 in amd64
[08:03] <kmon> if you ever come to madrid I'll buy you all the beers you can take xD
[08:05] <jpatrick> kmon: how are you?
[08:05] <kmon> tired
[08:05] <kmon> but happy for dapper
[08:05] <kmon> and excited for the paris summit
[08:05] <jjesse> i wish i was able to come to paris :(
[08:06] <jpatrick> jjesse: come over to the otherside...
[08:07] <jjesse> jpatrick: just started a new job and have no vacation yet :)
[08:07] <kmon> the kubuntu website is slow.... I imagine it's the dapper efect
[08:07] <jjesse> kmon: it was timing out for me earlier this morning EST
[08:07] <kmon> did everyone else noticed kubuntu was out earlier than ubunu? :P
[08:08] <kmon> ubuntu
[08:10] <bddebian> rockin'!! :-)
[08:10] <apachelogger> anyway, off for server maintenance
[08:13] <Flosoft> jpatrick: well ... if you want the iso ;) ... http://mirrors.flosoft.biz/projects/kubuntu
[08:13] <kmon> arggg
[08:13] <kmon> xmms is brought back with kde 3.5.3
[08:14] <kmon> :(
[08:14] <kmon> and gtk1
[08:14] <pradeepto> guys little late in the day I guess.... BUT GREAT WORK on Kubuntu Dapper Drake :)
[08:14] <pradeepto> Team Kubuntu Cheers!
[08:16] <jpatrick> Flosoft: groovy
[08:16] <Flosoft> hehe ... alternate are on the wa ... ;)
[08:16] <Flosoft> Flosoft High-Speed Downloads as usual ...
[08:16] <Flosoft> different mirrors still need to be updated ;)
[08:17] <pradeepto> folks laters, just wanted to drop in say congratulations. :)
[08:20] <dickhall_> anyone here use bzr-NG? I'm having trouble pulling down the katapult source
[08:29] <tvo> dickhall_: what commands did you use?  I'm one of the katapult devs so I ought to know it (I doubt I do tho ;))
[08:29] <dickhall_> :)
[08:30] <dickhall_> bzr branch http://baz.thekatapult.org.uk/dev/
[08:30] <dickhall_> as written on the wiki
[08:30] <dickhall_> (I've never used bzr, so I'm just following orders
[08:34] <tvo> bzr branch seems to do something here but it takes really long somehow
[08:35] <jpatrick> I thought it was bzr get
[08:35] <dickhall_> I'm getting (sorry for the paste, but it's low traffic): 
[08:35] <dickhall_> bzr: ERROR: command: '/usr/bin/bzr' 'branch' 'http://baz.thekatapult.org.uk/stable/'
[08:36] <dickhall_> pwd: /home/chris/katapult
[08:36] <dickhall_> an integer is required at /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/bzrlib/builtins.py line 432, in run() see ~/.bzr.log for debug information
[08:36] <tvo> dickhall_: hm that doesn't happen here
[08:36] <dickhall_> :(
[08:37] <tvo> well, unless it happens later in the command, it isn't finished here
[08:37] <dickhall_> are you doing that over an existing branch, or in a new area?
[08:37] <dickhall_> oh, it happens quite quickly, you'd know by know
[08:37] <tvo> clean dir
[08:37] <dickhall_> er, now
[08:37] <dickhall_> hrm
[08:37] <tvo> jpatrick: I think with baz it was baz get
[08:37] <jpatrick> ok
[08:38] <tvo> dickhall_: you're using standard dapper install of bzr?
[08:38] <dickhall_> I'm still on breezy
[08:38] <tvo> hmkay
[08:38] <dickhall_> I'm at work, and I'm hesitant to do a full upgrade in case it results in downtime
[08:38] <dickhall_> but yeah, just installed bzr today
[08:39] <tvo> so maybe bzr in breezy is a bit broken
[08:39] <tvo> or did you get it from backports or bzr's own repo?
[08:39] <dickhall_> just standard adept
[08:40] <dickhall_> I'll try bzr's site
[08:43] <dickhall_> oooh, much better :)
[08:43] <tvo> it works now?
[08:44] <dickhall_> well, it's fetching, and hasn't bailed out in the first 4 seconds
[08:44] <dickhall_> so an improvement at least
[08:45] <tvo> guess it will do fine then, it took a while here too
[08:46] <Flosoft> Riddell: Are you back?
[08:51] <dickhall_> sweet, worked, thanks tvo 
[08:53] <tvo> np
[08:54] <dickhall_> so, are you guys looking for new devs or accepting patches? I'm just dabbling currently, but if I have enough time I would love to contribute
[08:55] <tvo> dickhall_: we're sort of making plans for katapult 0.4
[08:55] <OdyX> dickhall_: what is your current status ?
[08:55] <tvo> redesiging the API to support multithreading (for slow catalogs which need to query the web for example)
[08:55] <tvo> and multiple actions
[08:55] <dickhall_> yeah, I read some of the braindumps
[08:55] <dickhall_> OdyX: in what sense?
[08:56] <tvo> but it's going really slow as I'm spending most of my open source software dev time on another project
[08:56] <tvo> and our leader (Mez) is without a proper internet connection
[08:56] <OdyX> dickhall_: I mean... DD, power user, brother of sabdfl ?
[08:56] <tvo> and I didn't get used to bzr yet, doesn't help either..
[08:58] <kmon> krita 1.5.1 is broken in amd64
[08:58] <dickhall_> I have no open source experience - went right from school to a job. what you see now is me trying to get into open source ;)
[08:58] <kmon> krita: error while loading shared libraries: libkio.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:58] <Flosoft> I added the all the files to my mirrors ... can you update the page?
[08:58] <dickhall_> I'm a professional programmer, working at an threat protection company on antispam software
[08:59] <dickhall_> most of the stuff I've been doing recently has been perl, javascript, and html, which is why I want to get into OSS - I'd like to get back into C++
[08:59] <dickhall_> and contribute to the community, of course
[09:00] <dickhall_> I enjoy long walks on the beach and chocolate. anything else, OdyX ? ;)
[09:01] <OdyX> dickhall_: Well. I'm no decider nor nothing... But everybody's welcome...
[09:01] <OdyX> dickhall_: got your LP account ?
[09:01] <dickhall_> LP?
[09:02] <dickhall_> like I said, I'm new to the community, from a dev standpoint at least
[09:02] <jpatrick> https://launchpad.net/
[09:02] <dickhall_> thanks, checking it out
[09:03] <dickhall_> I'm only in the dabbling phase currently - downloaded the source and started hacking yesterday for fun
[09:03] <OdyX> dickhall_: source of what ?
[09:03] <dickhall_> katapult, that's what I was chatting about with tvo
[09:04] <OdyX> dickhall_: work on Kubuntu is mainly packaging and debugging, not a lot of programmation...
[09:05] <dickhall_> I know - when I said "are you guys looking for new devs or accepting patches" it was about katapult specifically - 'twas addressed to tvo
[09:05] <OdyX> dickhall_: welll. katapult is not a Kubuntu matter... It's included in it, maybe a little adapted to Debian (then Kubuntu). If you want to "hack" katapult, you'd better join katapult's team directly, and get involved there, upstream...
[09:05] <dickhall_> that's what I was doing - tvo is on katapult's team ;)
[09:05] <tvo> katapult is a bit Kubuntu matter :)
[09:05] <dickhall_> heh
[09:05] <dickhall_> gotta jet to a meeting, I'll return
[09:05] <tvo> as Kubuntu made sure it got continued being developed after orig author quit
[09:07] <tvo> dickhall_: but any dev power, esp. redesigning now would be really useful... I don't want to push bad API in, so if you got C++ experience and can comment on it :)
[09:07] <kmon> Riddell: where do we fill bugs against your unofficial packages? (kde 3.5.3 or koffice 1.5.1)
[09:19] <OdyX> kmon: official BTS is /msg Riddell I have a bug.
[09:19] <kmon> OdyX: My irc name isn't registered....
[09:19] <kmon> so maybe I'll send him an email
[09:20] <OdyX> kmon: I was joking, but I think LP is maybe not the best place...
[09:20] <OdyX> _maybe_
[09:20] <kmon> dunno, but thanks
[09:47] <Flosoft> Riddell: Are you back?
[09:47] <jpatrick> Flosoft: he might not be back for a long time
[09:48] <jpatrick> send him an email or something
[09:48] <Flosoft> damn ... isn't there anyone else who can update the mirror page?
[09:56] <OdyX> Flosoft: I think he's the only one with rights.
[09:57] <seaLne> to k.o? yeah
[09:57] <OdyX> that's perfectible though...
[09:58] <kwwii> night all
[09:58] <kwwii> downloading dapper for the two new ppc build machines
[09:58] <kwwii> which works great when sleeping :-)
[10:26] <kmon> Riddell: I've created a wiki page to track issues with kubuntu.org packages. If it's not the appropiate place, feel free to remove it and point out where to track them.
[10:27] <seaLne> kmon: maybe it would be usefull if you shared its name :)
[10:27] <kmon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/kubuntuUnofficialPackages
[10:28] <kmon> the K is not capital
[10:28] <kmon> arg
[10:30] <kmon> how do I change the initial k to K
[10:30] <kmon> ?
[10:31] <seaLne> create a new one?
[10:32] <kmon> I'm doing so
[10:32] <kmon> I hope I can delete the other one
[10:33] <seaLne> if not i think you can do some sort of redirect, not sure how tho
[10:34] <kmon> I've also linked in main kubuntu wiki page
[10:34] <kmon> so it's easy to track it
[10:35] <seaLne> cool
[10:35] <seaLne> nn
[10:35] <kmon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuUnofficialPackages
[10:35] <kmon> has anyone tried the kaffeine 0.8 package from kubuntu.de?
[10:39] <Flosoft> how can I contact Ridell?
[10:39] <kmon> email him
[10:40] <Flosoft> whats his mail?
[10:40] <kmon> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.06-lts-release.php
[10:40] <jeroenvrp> kmon: no, I compiled my own 0.8.1 and works great
[10:40] <kmon> it's at the end of the page
[10:40] <kmon> jeroenvrp:  I'm a lazy bastard
[10:41] <kmon> :)
[10:41] <jeroenvrp> maybe I have the deb somewhere around
[10:41] <jeroenvrp> kmon: I have a checkinstall-deb for you
[10:41] <kmon> I'm on amd64
[10:41] <jeroenvrp> mmm
[10:41] <jeroenvrp> ok
[10:42] <jeroenvrp> thats a shame
[10:42] <kmon> I'll end up using kubuntu.de packages
[10:42] <jeroenvrp> I think you should try those yes
[10:42] <jeroenvrp> why not
[10:42] <kmon> but I wanted to know if someone has tried them before installing them
[10:42] <jeroenvrp> Proberly .de have test it :_)
[10:42] <kmon> surely
[10:50] <kmon> kde 3.5.3 has reverted the dockable tray icons
[10:50] <kmon> now they are all in the same row
[10:50] <kmon> it's strange
[11:20] <Tonio_> hey did someone here install kde 3.5.3 ?
[11:21] <Tonio_> I have the feeling cursor on the desktop doesn't work....
[11:21] <Tonio_> I just get a black one
[11:21] <Tonio_> Riddell: can you confirm ?
[11:22] <nixternal> Tonio_: i have kde 3.5.3 installed...i installed it this morning
[11:22] <nixternal> on this system here as a matter of fact
[11:22] <bddebian> Later folks, Congrats again!
[11:22] <nixternal> l8r bddebian
[11:22] <Tonio_> nixternal: is your cursor theme correct on the desktop ?
[11:22] <Tonio_> bddebian: ;)
[11:22] <nixternal> let me check on desktop real quick..it is fine here in konversation...let me confirm desktop
[11:23] <Tonio_> nixternal: tanks
[11:23] <nixternal> yes it is fine. i have the default mouse cursor showing correct on the desktop
[11:23] <Tonio_> what the hell..................... I have a clean dapper installation, and a fresh profile...........
[11:24] <nixternal> im installing a fresh setup on another machine and will upgrade to kde 3.5.3 as soon as possible...i will see if it happens there
[11:25] <nixternal> text install is so solid..i love it...quick as all hell too
[11:26] <Tonio_> nixternal: I prefer text install too
[11:26] <Tonio_> okay so let's reinstall a clean dapper system and compare
[11:26] <nixternal> im half way there
[11:29] <nixternal> Tonio_: you only get the black curson when you are on the desktop? it doesn't happen anywhere else?
[11:29] <nixternal> s/curson/cursor
[11:29] <Tonio_> it happens on all windows on the bar too
[11:29] <nixternal> that is odd
[11:29] <Tonio_> I can see that kde also switched back the systray to one line mode
[11:29] <Tonio_> I hate this...........
[11:30] <nixternal> one line mode?
[11:30] <nixternal> oh..where the icons are all on one line
[11:30] <Tonio_> yes, the systray on 3.5.2 was on 2 lines by default
[11:30] <Tonio_> they removed this...........
[11:30] <nixternal> yes...i kind of liked that...but i do like the one line the way i have it now...so it really doesn't bother me
[11:30] <kmon> It's not even mentioned in the changelog...
[11:31] <kmon> so I don't know why
[11:31] <Tonio_> kmon: nope...
[11:31] <Tonio_> kmon: I think that should be configurable in the sysray options
[11:31] <nixternal> i think i seen Riddell and them talking about it too...and fixing it somehow...how they fixed it though i can't remember
[11:32] <kmon> Tonio_: that was my first thought when I saw the feature removed
[11:32] <kmon> but apparently it has left us....
[11:32] <Tonio_> kmon: sadly yes...........
[11:32] <Tonio_> kmon: I use to have lots of things launched at the same time, so it was very usefull for me....
[11:33] <kmon> the tray looked better
[11:33] <nixternal> i have never had an operating system from boot up to install complete in less then 15 minutes..this is wonderful
[11:33] <Tonio_> kmon: do you see the cursor issue or not ?
[11:33] <kmon> I have a custom cursor and everything is fine here
[11:34] <kmon> I'm using amd64
[11:34] <Tonio_> kmon: okay
[11:34] <Tonio_> I will reinstall a clean system to be sure........... my one is probably too much customed
[11:34] <kmon> FYI I've started a wiki page to track kubuntu.org glitches
[11:34] <Tonio_> kmon: great
[11:34] <kmon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuUnofficialPackages
[11:35] <nixternal> excellent
[11:35] <kmon> so feel free to add your bugs until Riddell is fed up :)
[11:36] <Tonio_> kmon: yes, but I wanna track bugs on a clean system :)
[11:36] <kmon> sure
[11:36] <nixternal> heh..i thought i was the only one with amarok 1.4 splash screen issue..i asked the past couple of days and everyone was said they had no problem
[11:36] <Tonio_> but concerning the tray, that's unfortunatelly not a bug, unless it is supposed to still be on two lines but doesn't work
[11:36] <kmon> have you guys thought about how are you going to provided updated packages to dapper?
[11:36] <Tonio_> we should ask to kde people if that's vonluntary removed or not
[11:37] <kmon> officialy or unofficialy
[11:38] <kmon> Tonio_: could you ask kde and if it's a bug add it to the wiki page?
[11:38] <Tonio_> kmon: yes
[11:38] <kmon> I don't know any kde dev
[11:38] <kmon> hehe
[11:39] <kmon> you could ask aseigo, since he's the kicker maintainer, and a kubuntu fan 
[11:39] <kmon> I've seen him in #kubuntu
[11:39] <Tonio_> kmon: thanks for the info
[11:40] <kmon> no problem
[11:40] <kmon> thanks for your work on dapper ;)
[11:41] <apachelogger> kmon: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125210
[11:41] <Ubugtu> KDE bug 125210 in general "amaroK doesn't apply the show splashscreen setting from a kiosk config" [Minor,New]  
[11:41] <apachelogger> btw ;-)
[11:41] <kmon> thanks apachelogger
[11:41] <apachelogger> np
[11:41] <kmon> I'm linking the bug in the page
[11:44] <kmon> apachelogger: you're from the kubuntu.de crew, aren't you?
[11:44] <apachelogger> yep
[11:44] <kmon> I was thinking the other day it would be nice to integrate your packages with kubuntu.org ones
[11:45] <kmon> I wan't lastest kaffeine ;)
[11:45] <kmon> it would be nice for people running dapper
[11:45] <kmon> since it's going to be long supported
[11:45] <apachelogger> well, one can add the repo anyway ;-)
[11:46] <kmon> sure
[11:46] <apachelogger> no need to have it at kubuntu.org
[11:46] <apachelogger> just a too big list of various packages in our repo
[11:46] <kmon> but at least, provide a page with info about this repos
[11:46] <kmon> and how to include the gpg key, etc
[11:46] <kmon> not sure...
[11:46] <kmon> just an idea to make it easier
[11:46] <kmon> for users
[11:46] <apachelogger> yeah
[11:46] <kmon> (me :P)
[11:47] <apachelogger> I gonna talk to the repo master
[11:47] <kmon> I've adde the topic to the next agenda
[11:47] <kmon> let's see what Riddell and others think about it
[11:47] <apachelogger> kmon: http://www.czessi.net/apt.php?i18n=en
[11:47] <kmon> maybe he has other plans to keep us in the bleeding edge
[11:48] <apachelogger> or http://packages.kubuntu.de/apt.php?i18n=en
[11:49] <apachelogger> actually leads to same result ;-)
[11:49] <kmon> yeah
[11:49] <kmon> nice
[11:49] <kmon> are you an amarok devel?
[11:50] <apachelogger> not dev, though nearly everything else ;-)
[11:50] <kmon> hehe
[11:50] <kmon> I thought so after reading your lastest blog
[11:51] <kmon> it's sindicated in planet kubuntu de
[11:51] <kmon> and you write in english.... so 
[11:51] <kmon> when I'm bored at work
[11:51] <kmon> I read blogs
[11:51] <apachelogger> ;-)
[11:51] <kmon> specially kde ones
[11:51] <kmon> jeje
[11:51] <kmon> hehe
[11:52] <nixternal> apachelogger: thx for the link to that bug...i followed #4 and now the disable splash works
[11:52] <pygi> apachelogger is a marketing people :)
[11:52] <pygi> at least from what I got from amarok organisation :)
[11:52] <apachelogger> pygi: and Senior Director of Interproject Coordination Activities
[11:53] <pygi> apachelogger, and that ;)
[11:53] <apachelogger> ah, and release dude ;-)
[11:53] <pygi> apachelogger, yes, yes, I know :)
[11:58] <pygi> apachelogger, so when is next release? ;)
[11:58] <apachelogger> 1.4.1 beta1 on 18th
[11:58] <apachelogger> 18th + 2weeks = 1.4.1
[11:59] <pygi> oki, what about 1.5?
[11:59] <apachelogger> no 1.5
[11:59] <pygi> ah, yes
[11:59] <pygi> 2.0?
[11:59] <apachelogger> hopefully same day as KDE 4.0
[11:59] <pygi> when would that be ? :)
[11:59] <pygi> (me is asking because of gst engine has to be done by then)
[12:00] <apachelogger> pygi: not my genre ;-)
[12:00] <pygi> apachelogger, hehe :)
[12:00] <pygi> thanks :)
[12:01] <nixternal> Tonio_: downloading kde 3.5.3 and upgrading now...we should know something in about the next 5 to 10 minutes
[12:01] <apachelogger> pygi: release month/year of 4.0 isn't set yet (official)
[12:02] <nixternal> i can't wait for that
[12:02] <nixternal> i just wish some of the people on kde-look would stop posting vista-like kde4 ideas
[12:03] <apachelogger> yeah :|
[12:04] <nixternal> linux isn't windows...thats my take...if im gonna be free os hippy, then i don't want to use something that looks like it came from m$ ;)
[12:04] <nixternal> i like kmenu 'K" w/ gears...no kbfx either ;)
[12:05] <nixternal> now if only the hardware was free...then there could be a happy hippy land