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paveqso where do I find more info about "setting up automated deployments"12:04
paveqdoes it *work*?12:04
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paveqthere doesn't seem to be any documentation in the web site12:06
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paveqfunny12:07
paveq230 nicks but no-one seems to be here :P12:07
paveqor no-one knows :/12:07
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lozengehi12:09
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Kronoz!nvidia12:20
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia12:20
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jorgpis it musicbrainz or tunepimp that has the mp3 disabled12:24
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mardiDo I use K3b for burning an ISO?12:35
Kronozmardi, yes12:35
mardiKronoz: Thanks!12:35
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djibhey12:38
djibI'm trying to update to dapper but when I do a dist-upgrade apt want to get rid of loads of packages like eclipse, amarok, ...12:38
djibwhy, and how can I avoid that ?12:39
behavedaveLooks like KDE 3.5.3 has been released!12:40
djibyep, the binaries are available for dapper12:40
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behavedaveso they are - give that a go12:42
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AdmiralFTW!cups12:47
ubotuit has been said that cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/12:47
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djibanyone know when PLF repos will be available for dapper ?12:55
jorgpdjib: remove the dependencies12:58
djibjorgp: how do I do that ?12:58
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AdmiralFTWi can't get my USB printer to work on my comuter01:00
AdmiralFTWand ideas?01:00
djibhttp://www.linux-usb.org/01:00
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rpedroAdmiralFTW: what brand is your printer?01:01
AdmiralFTWits a dell A94001:01
rpedrohmm, Dell printers I've are usually rebranded Lexmarks, I believe01:02
AdmiralFTWyea i read that somewhere01:02
AdmiralFTWi ran printconf01:03
rpedronot very good support under linux, the best support is for HP and Brother printers01:03
AdmiralFTWbut it said foomaitc was doing something wrong01:03
rpedrooverall...01:03
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AdmiralFTWmy friend had an easy time configuring his, its a lexmark01:03
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djibAdmiralFTW: have you had a look on linux-usb.org ?01:06
AdmiralFTWyea01:06
djibwhad did you find ?01:06
AdmiralFTWit had a pdf which was no help01:06
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djibok but if you find something I guess chances are that you can get your printer to work01:06
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rpedrothe Dell A940 is supposed to be a rebranded Lexmark X5150M01:09
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rpedroI'm using gnome right now, and can't find either on the list of supported printers, sorry01:10
AdmiralFTWi'm on the ubuntu wiki now01:10
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Fastlyi just installed amarok 1.4 on ubuntu and now get the following error: No new media devices were found. If you feel this is an error, ensure that the DBUS and HAL daemons are running and KDE was built with support for them. You can test this by running "dcop kded mediamanager fullList" in a Konsole window.01:15
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Fastlyany ideas?01:16
Fastlyi get this error when trying to autodetect my ipod which is plugged in and mounted01:16
Fastlythe ipod icon was created on  the desktop01:16
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jonathan_hello01:30
jonathan_#alionet01:31
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ChuckHi, I have just upgraded to kubuntu dapper, and now when I boot a kernel (dose not matter which one) it loads, then when the login screen should come up, it does not and just displays the new kubuntu load logo thingy, I changed the thing and it keeps saying some kernel module failed to load01:38
connhi, when I run a certain app, DRI won't work, displaying this error: libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_Dispatch). Usually LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 will fix the issue, but I can't get it working with a particular app (vmware-player). Every other gl app works fine, direct rendering is enabled and working fine. Any ideas?01:38
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rpedroChuck: try asking in #ubuntu+1 , if  you don't think it's a kubuntu specific bug01:41
RadiantFireChuck: I had the problem, and I fixed it by logging in at terminall and running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:42
ChuckThanks01:43
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Kronozwhat time is dapper due?01:49
Eroickbetween 12 noon Central time today and 12 noon central tomorow01:50
Eroickin other words, soon, but nobody knows how soon!01:50
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wordI'm getting the error "[42989......]  Buffer, I/O error on device dm-0, logical block 64183..." when the Enterprise Volume Manager starts up and that error goes on forever with the numbers chaning i have to skip the volume manager to satart up kubuntu01:53
james_xxxhow would one go about enabling direct rendering? is there any reason why a person would not want to do this01:54
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james_xxxdieser raum sieht fast tot aus...01:58
RadiantFiremaybe we all have better things to do :-)01:58
james_xxxRadiantFire: easily lol01:59
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BlueLagunaanyone installed xgl?02:07
james_xxxBlueLaguna: i installed it, but don't yet know what to do next02:08
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BlueLagunabah, I'll save this for some other time...02:13
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james_xxxwhere geographically do desktop linux distros have their heaviest user base?02:22
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_chuckyeah ok I got it working :)02:24
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_chucknow time to try to install my grapics drivers02:25
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Jack_Smirnoffhow do I do a hardware change like a video card after Kubuntu is installed?02:31
Jack_SmirnoffI changed the card and rebooted into the recovery mode. ended up at a prompt but did not know what to do next.02:32
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rpedroBlueLaguna: /j #ubuntu-xgl02:35
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BladesonfireJack_Smirnoff, what video card brand are you using?02:36
Jack_SmirnoffIn this casse S302:37
Jack_SmirnoffCheapie PCI02:37
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Jack_SmirnoffIt had onboard video which I disabled02:37
Jack_Smirnoffthen into recovery mode02:37
BladesonfireJack_Smirnoff, try this command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:38
Jack_SmirnoffI cant since I opted for just reinstalling02:39
Jack_SmirnoffIt is just a test anyhow02:39
Jack_SmirnoffI was just wondering how to do it right since I did it wrong02:39
_chuckhow can I open a decompress a .tar.gz from the commandline?02:39
BladesonfireTHe only problem is a malformed xorg.conf02:39
Bladesonfire_chuck, tar xvzf /path/to/file02:40
_chuckthanks02:40
Jack_Smirnoffso I edit it?02:40
BladesonfireJack_Smirnoff, I don't know what to do for an S3, but you need to change the device section of your xorg02:41
james_xxxhow would i enable direct rendering (provided it is possible with my system)?02:41
BladesonfireJack_Smirnoff, if you want, you can always boot a live CD and copy that xorg02:41
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Jack_Smirnoffbut that is the filename to edit?02:41
_chuck"make: command not found"  Can I install the make command on kubuntu?02:42
Jack_Smirnoffwill it be in the path?02:42
BladesonfireJack_Smirnoff, The full path for the file is under /etc/X11/xorg.conf (make sure to back it up before you do anything)02:42
Jack_Smirnoffthanks..02:42
Bukunuthi all02:42
Bladesonfire_chuck, "sudo aptitude install build-essentials"02:42
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Jack_SmirnoffCan you tell me where to find an artice on how I should have dont it?02:43
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Jack_Smirnoffdone02:44
_chuck"Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "build-essentials""02:44
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BladesonfireJack_Smirnoff, did you try the wiki or the forums?02:44
Bladesonfire_chuck, sorry: build-essential02:44
Jack_Smirnofftried the forums yes02:44
_chuckok02:44
Jack_Smirnoffbut nothing about changing hardware02:44
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Jack_SmirnoffTHe live handles hardware changes like nothing I would have expected this to be simple02:45
BladesonfireJack_Smirnoff, go to #ubuntu and maybe someone there can help you02:45
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Jack_Smirnoffthanks.02:45
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BladesonfireI like Adept over Synaptic02:47
Bukunut /msg nickserv set unfiltered on02:48
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_chuck"Linux kernel headers 2.6.15 on 386"  is that the sorce for /usr/src?02:49
_chuckfor recomplining the sorce02:49
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_chuckexcuse my spelling I am use to xchat spell checker helping me02:51
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BladesonfireAnd yes, it is02:52
james_xxxis there a way to logout from the command line? i need the command02:52
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_chuck*sigh* how anyone there tryed to install these drivers: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=865&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng&strOSs=39&submit=Go%2102:54
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james_xxxdamn it02:55
Bladesonfire_chuck, no... try #ubuntu02:56
Bladesonfirejames_xxx, "lo" "exit" "logout"02:56
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bipolari'm sitting at our lug meeting. does the dapper 'live' cd automaticly setup dualboot if a pc has winxp on it? all my installs have been linux only so far.02:56
crimsunit will detect the other OS, yes.02:57
bipolarwill it repartition?02:57
bipolarresize the windows partition...02:58
james_xxxBladesonfire: after i apt-get dist-upgrade, is there anything i need to do next?02:58
BladesonfireI've never repartitioned an NTFS filesystem before02:58
Bladesonfirejames_xxx, Update your sources.list and reboot, I believe02:58
james_xxxand i need a way to actually shut down from the command line lol02:59
james_xxxi lost my panel somehow02:59
Bladesonfirejames_xxx, sudo shutdown -r now (-r = restart, -h = halt/shutdown)02:59
james_xxxthanks a million02:59
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Bladesonfirejames_xxx, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades ... don't know what step you are in that, but yes, gl03:00
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Midspeedhello everybody03:01
Bladesonfirehi03:01
Midspeedi have a problem, if anybody could help me, it would be highly appreciated03:01
Midspeedeverytime i try to access USER AND GROUPS in System Setting i get this error03:01
MidspeedThe module Users and Groups could not be loaded.03:02
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Midspeedand i need to add a user and i cant, i tried adding a user on the shell and it does create it, but it wont login it says the password is incorrect even though i have changed the password like 3 times03:03
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BladesonfireMidspeed, I don't know about the modules problem (I get it, too, sometimes), but for command line, do "useradd user" and then "passwd user"03:03
Midspeedok03:04
Midspeedlet me try that03:04
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Midspeedand how do i delete a formerely created user?03:05
Midspeedwhats the shell command for it?03:05
RadiantFirei think it is userdel03:05
RadiantFireeither that or maybe something in gpasswd03:06
Midspeedits deluser i just tried it, thanks its good03:06
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Midspeedwait userdel works too03:06
Midspeedhe he he03:06
Midspeedthanks alot03:06
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Bilforddont go to #Ubuntu.  theres 1000 people there now, and theyre all talking03:08
Bladesonfire908, to be exact ;)03:09
optiprocwow03:09
_chuckok these crappy intel drivers are cleary not going to work, anyone know another possable soluation to a unsupported driver problem?03:12
optiprocI'm looking forward to the dapper release.  right now I'm running opensuse and the package manager is really annoying but it does have good support for mixed 32 bit and 64 bit apps03:12
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optiprocwhich intel drivers are you using?03:13
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BladesonfireSorry _chuck, I only know nVidia03:14
_chuckthese: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=865&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng&strOSs=39&submit=Go%2103:14
BladesonfireGet one of those cards and get back to me ;)03:14
_chuckBladesonfire: I do not think nVidia will work for me03:15
_chuckI think it will be a lot better if I could use my RAM for my video chipset03:15
BladesonfireWill only work if you have that brand card, of course03:15
_chuckbut we I config xserver to do that, it does not want to run03:16
_chuckwhen*03:16
BladesonfireHmm03:16
BladesonfireI dunno03:16
_chuckwhen you do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it asks if you want to use RAN as Video RAM, and if I put something down for that, when I try to run X it crashes says something about a module not being supported03:17
_chuckand my chipset does not have any RAM of its own03:18
_chuckso I am stuck on 640x480 with like 16-bit color03:18
BladesonfireWhat happens if you don't put anything in it?03:18
BladesonfireAh03:18
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_chuckAnd its hard as crap to work on such a low res03:19
_chuckyour text is like .7 inchs high03:19
Bladesonfire_chuck, you saw this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2702903:19
_chuckI will soon03:19
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_chuckIll have to try using 855resolution03:22
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chuckWhat was that link again...03:31
dbgltis dapper released yet? :)03:31
chucknvm03:31
CheeseBurgerMandbglt: Not yet03:32
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dbgltCheeseBurgerMan: how many more minutes? :)03:41
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CheeseBurgerMandbglt: It could be...*shock*... over 24 hours (or > 1440 minutes)03:43
CheeseBurgerMan:P03:43
dbgltblarg03:43
dbgltit's already midday here :p03:43
CheeseBurgerManlol03:43
CheeseBurgerManIt's still may here ;)03:43
liciolol03:43
dbglt^_^03:43
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jet87i've still got 3+ hours03:44
dbgltwake up, folks. Live in the real world.03:44
dbglt:)03:45
dbgltthe future is now!03:45
BladesonfireWhat's the future like?03:45
firephotoblue n silver03:45
crimsunit's bright.03:45
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dbgltbit cloudy outside03:47
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dbgltoh and a bit of an unrelated question... decent tagger for mp3s? preferably a kde one03:48
firephotodbglt: juk or amarok does that03:48
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dbgltfirephoto: not well enough for me :\03:48
dbgltfirephoto: won't capture anything in brackets as part of my title :|03:48
dbglte.g. Song (Remix) - I want all of that in the title03:49
dbgltboth of them decide they don't like that, and just give "Song"03:49
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Bilfordhow do you receive DCC in Konversation03:49
firephotothey don't mas tag as good as they could though.. juk is a little better for that..  oh you want them to take file names and make tags?03:49
BilfordI tried configuring ports but it didnt work03:49
dbgltfirephoto: for some instances yeah03:49
firephotoBilford: worked here i think. just opens a new tab.03:50
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BilfordI get that far, but the download doesnt start03:50
Bilfordjust hangs at 0%03:50
BilfordI'll try a few more ports03:51
firephotooh.. probably is network related then.03:51
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BilfordI just had to right click it to start the download03:58
Bilfordchoose Accept03:58
chuckI love what Dell and Intel did to my PC, I do not have any PCI, AGP, no exepansion slotes at all, and intel has logical PCI slotes for all of Intel's crappy chipsets03:58
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chuckI think the problem could me with my VBOIS, I have a lot of things that tell me I do not have one04:02
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chuckbrb04:06
orient2000Is ubuntu tasty? Did anybody drink it?04:06
Bilfordwhat04:07
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orient2000Ubuntu is also a wine from south africa he he, just wander if anybody tried it. Is it good?04:07
Bilfordno04:08
Bilfordare you sure it's a wine04:08
orient2000You can buy it in Toronto in LCBO store. Sure it is a wine. It make me happy to see this name. We should send few bottles to developers team.04:10
Bilfordlol04:10
Bilfordtheyd probably like that04:10
orient2000I wonder if they know about it.04:11
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james_xxxcan anyone tell me how you can type in different languages on kubuntu? is there a selector i need to install? i already have the support packages installed04:12
Bilfordyes04:12
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BilfordREgional and Accessibility04:13
BilfordKeyboard Layout04:13
james_xxxBilford: thanks04:13
DaSkreechjorgp: Hello04:14
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james_xxxheute abend a ich zwei rote pfel04:18
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james_xxxkool04:18
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Bilfordlooks like you can switch back and forth easily04:20
feetboy16i cant change my wallpaper on kde :S its stick as a green and yellow gradient and wont budge04:20
feetboy16how can i change it O_o04:20
feetboy16thanks04:20
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Bilfordthats too easy04:20
james_xxx     ...04:21
DaSkreechhaha04:21
Bilfordlol04:21
Bilfordleft to right04:21
james_xxxrock and rool04:21
BilfordI mean right to left04:21
james_xxxroll*04:22
DaSkreechfeetboy16: What have you tried to do?04:22
feetboy16change it from kcontrol so far04:22
CheeseBurgerManfeetboy16: Right click on an empty area of the desktop, and click 'Configure Desktop' ;)04:22
orient2000If I switch to chinese, how can I switch back to English when I can not understand chinese at all? P04:22
CheeseBurgerManIt's in kcontrol too, but that's the easy way. :)04:22
feetboy16did that04:22
DaSkreechRight04:22
feetboy16same applet, CheeseBurgerMan04:22
james_xxxok the language support in kubuntu us way better in k/ubuntu than in windows04:23
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DaSkreechWhat do you have your background set as?04:23
CheeseBurgerManfeetboy16: I know.04:23
james_xxxis*04:23
DaSkreechNo Picture, Picture or Slideshow?04:23
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BilfordI know.  you should see some of the languages04:23
feetboy16well it is set as no picture (single colour, blue) but it shows a gradient of green to yellow :S04:23
DaSkreechjames_xxx: side effect of open source04:23
Bilford 04:23
DaSkreechUnder the options beneath that do you have it as single colour?04:24
chuckyou know whats odd, knoppix (liveCD) can get me a higher res04:24
DaSkreechWith no blending?04:24
feetboy16ya04:24
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feetboy16basically it isnt showing anything corresponding to the settings, to put it simply04:24
feetboy16i could set a wallpaper, set a slideshow, change the direction of the gradient, nothing04:24
james_xxxBilford: that is so awesome04:24
DaSkreechand this setting is for .. all desktops?04:25
chuckYou think its possable to copy the settings/driver/(w/e) knoppix is doing?04:25
feetboy16all, 1, 2'04:25
imbrandonChuck just copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:25
orient2000Did anybody had a problems with a screen savers. I did try it 2 weeks ago and some did freeze my system. I had to reset. Is it still a problem? I am afraid to try again.04:25
feetboy16you name it, none corespond04:25
chuckok, going to liveCD, brb04:25
DaSkreechI don't know04:27
DaSkreechLog out and log back in?04:27
feetboy16its been happening for a few days04:27
james_xxxi wonder if anyone will make bootable k/ubuntu usb drives :-)04:27
feetboy16logged in logged out fiddled with xorg.conf rebooted04:27
orient2000Bilford: it looks Thai to me.04:28
feetboy16everything i could think of04:28
james_xxxthat could be thai or tamil or something04:28
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DaSkreechdidn't do anything to set it to that in the first plae?04:28
BilfordUnicode 0BB704:28
feetboy16i dunno what could have done it :S04:28
BilfordTamil04:29
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DaSkreechUmm. I forget where kde saves that option04:29
orient2000I thought Tamil is close to sanscrit or hindi. interesting.04:29
NeoChaosXam I the only one who noticed that the font size on kubuntu.org is bigger than usual?04:30
DaSkreechLet me see if I can find where my wallpaper is04:30
james_xxxNeoChaosX: yeah , it is04:30
feetboy16ok das04:31
james_xxxi was serious about  the bootable k/ubuntu usb drive lol. i have a usb version of damn small linux that i think is sweet04:32
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orient2000can you tell me abot this small USB boot option on small linux?04:33
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james_xxxorient2000: u can download it on the damn small linux website04:36
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richardIs KDE 3.5.3 in the Kubuntu repositories yet? Or will it take a few days?04:37
james_xxxorient2000: they make a version that is designed to install to usb drive.... and for older computers that cannot boot from usb, you can also download a file that will make a bootable floppy that will then tell the computer to boot from the usb drive04:38
orient2000is it domnsmalllinux.com ? you mean?04:38
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chavorichard,  3.5.3 is available04:39
ChuckThe knoppix X server does not have a xorg.config or what ever!04:39
james_xxxwww.damnsmalllinux.org04:40
CheeseBurgerManChuck: It may use XFree8604:40
orient2000thanks.04:40
Chuckright...04:40
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CheeseBurgerManChuck: Was that an 'I have not clue what you mean, but thanks' right? :P04:40
CheeseBurgerManno*04:41
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Chucklol04:41
Chuckno I know that that is04:41
CheeseBurgerManhehe, good :)04:41
james_xxxit says that KDE 3.5.3 is available for i386 and PPC... would that mean that it is not available for i686??04:41
CheeseBurgerManWhat? KDE 3.5.3 is out? I must update! :P04:42
imbrandonjames_xxx, 686 == i386 arch04:42
ChuckI think you can pick which Xserver to use on load04:42
CheeseBurgerManOh, only for Dapper. :(04:42
chavojames_xxx, kubuntu is compiled for 38604:42
ChuckI picked Xvesa04:42
james_xxx3.5.3 is out, but i don't think it's in the repos yet04:42
CheeseBurgerManjames_xxx: It is for Dapper04:42
james_xxxchavo: thanks04:42
CheeseBurgerManhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php04:42
chavoyes you can get it for dapper, it's not in main it's in kubuntu.org04:43
chavoriddel's packages04:43
CheeseBurgerManAh04:43
james_xxxCheeseBurgerMan: does that mean we can upgrade with synaptic or adept?04:43
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CheeseBurgerManjames_xxx: If you have Dapper and add the repo to your sources.list, then yes.04:43
DaveQB11how would one go about upgrading to Dapper from Breezy ? And when should one do the dist-upgrade to get the official release, not the RC ? Wait til the ISO's are posted up ??04:43
feetboy16from dapper to breezy?04:44
CheeseBurgerMan!upgrade04:44
ubotu[upgrade]  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.04:44
feetboy16why would you want to go backwards04:44
imbrandon!upgrade04:44
CheeseBurgerManha! :P04:44
DaveQB11thanx for the link CheeseBurgerMan04:44
CheeseBurgerManfeetboy16: "To Dapper from Breezy"04:44
feetboy16oh04:44
feetboy16wow04:44
DaveQB11when should one do the upgrade to the same system as if they did an install with the Official release of Dapper ?04:45
feetboy16ok i think i need to go have an eye bath again, the eye meds are obviously kicking in. brb.04:45
DaveQB11".. to get the same system ..."04:45
imbrandondave yes04:45
DaveQB11imbrandon: yes which ?04:45
james_xxxis it necessary to add the key that it mentions?04:45
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CheeseBurgerManjames_xxx: If you havent added it yet, then yes.04:46
imbrandonjames_xxx, yes , DaveQB11 anytime, i would do updates regularly, you will have the same system from then on after launch04:46
DaveQB11imbrandon: yeah I update regularly now, so wait til its released today to do the dist-update ?04:47
james_xxxdo you think that 3.5.3 will be a part of dapper stable?04:47
imbrandonDaveQB11, update for dapper includes dist-upgrades ;)04:47
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imbrandonjames_xxx, probbly not04:48
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imbrandonDaveQB11, by update regularly i mean running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"04:48
DaveQB11imbrandon: yeah ok, I guess what I am trying to ask is, if I do a dist-upgrade not, would that give me the same as if I downloaded the Official Dapper ISO's releasing today or the same as if I installed from the RC ISO's04:48
imbrandon;)04:48
imbrandonDaveQB11, yes it would give you the same system04:49
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DaveQB11imbrandon: Ahh ok, no I do not do that, just fetch updates in adept and commit04:49
feetboy16and even if it didnt, the regular updates would get you up to scratch anyways..04:49
DaveQB11imbrandon: the same as Official not RC you mean ??04:49
DaveQB11feetboy16: yeah true, just trying to avoid any complications04:50
james_xxxwould someone tell me again how to edit the source list? sudo nano something something....04:50
orient2000KDE 3.5.3  sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg04:50
DaveQB11james_xxx:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list i think04:51
CheeseBurgerManDave is correct04:51
DaveQB11james_xxx: use TAB completions, easiest04:51
imbrandonDaveQB11, i dont think you are understanding how the repos work, the repos hold the packages for RC untill release, then they are holding the same packages for the release, so as long as you are updated you have what ever the newest released version is, dosent matter what you started with04:51
chuckIs it possable to install XFree86 on ubuntu04:51
imbrandonchuck, possible but it would be a major pain and a major downgrade from xorg04:52
CheeseBurgerMan!xfree8604:52
CheeseBurgerManRats :P04:52
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CheeseBurgerMan04:52
feetboy16xorg and xfree86 use the same syntax in their config files, so it should be a matter of copy/paste really :S04:52
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chuckimbrandon, well with xorg the max res I can get is 640x480 with 16 bit color at 60 Hz, not sure you can get much lower04:53
imbrandonchuck, xfree and xorg use the same syntax in the config files04:53
feetboy16echo echo echo04:53
DaveQB11imbrandon: yep, so I am just trying to skip having RC packages on my system; go straight to Official Dapper hence my timing question04:53
imbrandonchuck, also try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:53
chuckYeah, only done that about 35 times today04:54
chuckI think the problem lies with my VBOIS, I do not think I have one.04:54
imbrandonDaveQB11, there is no way to "skip" a version per se like windows , anyhow wait till the iso is out in your case04:54
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chuckand I try to install the intel drivers for linux/my chip.  And there are bugs in the programming of the drivers.04:55
DaveQB11imbrandon: thanx. There will little to no changed in the repos once Official release huh ?04:55
imbrandonDaveQB11, correct04:55
DaveQB11imbrandon: cheers04:55
chuckUnless you wanna try to make header and tails out of the 130 some line error dump...04:55
OmniDShould 6.06 come out at the same time as the ubuntu version?04:56
OmniDFor kubuntu?04:56
imbrandonOmniD, yes04:56
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OmniDOh awesome. I wanna try out KDE04:56
CheeseBurgerManOmniD: You can just install KDE on Breezy04:57
OmniDI hear a lot of people like it more.04:57
OmniDI'm not on Breezy04:57
imbrandonwe all seem to ;)04:57
CheeseBurgerManOmniD: Oh :P04:57
OmniDI'm not on any Linux at the moment04:57
chuckimbrandon, I just don't know what to do...  I tryed using some 855resolution program, and it does not work04:57
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OmniDJust waiting so I can download all I need in one nice DVD04:57
CheeseBurgerManRight. :)04:57
imbrandonchuck, what card04:58
OmniDThe other channel is going insane04:58
CheeseBurgerManI assume 'the other channel' is #ubuntu04:58
_nano_OmniD: which channel? ubuntu?04:58
robin__any one know if writing to my xp partition from kubuntu will hurt anything?04:58
OmniD_nano_: yes04:58
imbrandonrobin_ probbly, ntfs write support in linux is dangerous04:58
DaveQB11robin_:  depends on file system04:58
DaveQB11robin_: FAT32 or NTFS ?04:59
chuckimbrandon: Intel Corp 82845G/GL[brookdale-G] /GL04:59
robin__ntfs04:59
OmniDFAT32 is recommended right?04:59
_nano_robin_it's always better to create a separate fat32 partition in between ntfs and linux partitions04:59
chuckI think thats right04:59
DaveQB11robin_:  i wouldnt04:59
robin__ok jusy checkin04:59
chavochuck, laptop?04:59
imbrandonhahaha chuck you have the EXACT same card i do, hmmm , mine works perfect04:59
robin__thx04:59
DaveQB11I have a Win install on FAT32, make life so much easier :)04:59
imbrandoni even play 3d games etc04:59
CheeseBurgerManDaveQB11: Totally :)04:59
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_nano_yeah imbrandon has even run xgl on that ;)04:59
robin__fat 32 wont see 120 gig04:59
chuckyeap its  Intel Corp. 82845G/GL [Brookdale-G]  Chipset Integrated05:00
DaveQB11CheeseBurgerMan: I hardly use Win though, so doesnt make a diff what its on05:00
chavochuck, what about the monitor?05:00
DaveQB11robin_: I only have 6 gigs for Win sorry, so cant suggest in your case05:00
CheeseBurgerManDaveQB11: I know it...I was Windows free for awhile, but then I was doing some stuff that required Windows, so I had to reinstall. :(05:00
imbrandonchuck, i use that exact same card, hold on i'll paste my xorg conf05:00
chuckimbrandon, what driver are you using?05:00
imbrandoni81005:00
chuck...05:00
DaveQB11CheeseBurgerMan: qemu ?05:00
chuckPM it to me05:00
chuckWhat type of monitor?05:01
CheeseBurgerManDaveQB11: virtualization is too slow for me. :P05:01
DaveQB11CheeseBurgerMan: yeah i got it for one game, that doesnt have network support in Linux05:01
DaveQB11CheeseBurgerMan:  :(05:01
CheeseBurgerManhehe05:01
chuckI have a MAG XLI795 or a MAG XL1795, not sure if its a one or are I05:02
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CheeseBurgerManThat's why I have mine fat32. It doesn't affect my computing much05:02
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robin__is there a bearshare type program for linux?05:02
chuckbearshare?05:02
chucklike a torrent?05:02
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robin__no file sharing05:02
CheeseBurgerManchuck: Gnutella client05:03
DaveQB11limewire ?05:03
imbrandonrobin_ limewire or frostwire05:03
robin__perfect thx05:03
DaveQB11frostwire ?05:03
chucktorrent is file shareing?05:03
robotgeekimbrandon: apollon also works05:03
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imbrandonchuck, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/75048405:04
imbrandonbrb05:04
chuckthanks05:04
DaveQB11so when is dapper released ? in what timezone and time ? Midnight S.A. ?05:04
imbrandonDaveQB11, when they announce it on the webpage, they have a "day" not time ;)05:04
chxI am dist-upgrade 'ing now -- I guess it won't change _that much_05:04
imbrandonchx, very very very little05:04
DaveQB11imbrandon: doh! :)05:04
chxI run Dapper since Flight 505:05
chxit's usable since Flight 605:05
DaveQB11chx: hows it been ?05:05
Bilfordtj9991, I guess youre installing today, right05:05
imbrandon:) yea i've been using it months05:05
chxat least on this box05:05
chxFlight 5 was... freaky.05:05
DaveQB11imbrandon:  overall impressions ? big diff ?05:05
chxyes, big diff05:05
imbrandonDaveQB11, very05:05
robin__oh is it due to be released to? i have the available releassse now and so far no problems05:05
imbrandonDaveQB11, but i work on it every day too ;)05:05
chxyes, today is the big day05:06
robin__awesoom05:06
DaveQB11imbrandon:  in hardware detection, boot speed, overall speed, eye candy ?05:06
DaveQB11imbrandon: your a dev i take it ?05:06
imbrandonDaveQB11, yes yes yes etc etc etc , try it out05:06
DaveQB11imbrandon:  i will be05:06
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james_xxxok back to 3.5.3 and the thing with the key.... do i install 3.5.3 first , THEN the key, or the other way around?05:06
chxDaveQB11: hardware detection big time05:06
imbrandonDaveQB11, http://wiki.kubuntu.org/imbrandon tells a bit more about me ;)05:06
imbrandonbrb05:06
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chxDaveQB11: you can't imagine the weird sh*t I am throwing at poor *ubuntu05:07
CheeseBurgerManjames_xxx: add the key, then install 3.5.305:07
DaveQB11chx:  how you mean ?05:07
robin__I dont understand where the $ comes from to devlope ubuntu/kubuntu, they give cd's away, will this ever end05:07
DaveQB11chx:  home baked packages etc ?05:07
chxDaveQB11: no, exotic hardware05:07
imbrandonrobin_ Mark Shuttleworth ;)05:07
chuckok, restarting xserver, brb05:08
imbrandonbrb05:08
MasterEvilAce`LTis there a way to make Konversation not stay in taskbar if it's in sys tray?05:08
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james_xxxok here goes the KDE upgrade... i hope this was a wise thing lol05:08
CheeseBurgerManMasterEvilAce`LT: Yes.05:09
barrosanyone here succed to install RT2500-USB on ubuntu?05:09
robin__well I am glad mark finds this worth while and I hope he keeps supporting ubuntu/kubuntu. I tried severial  linux os's and untu kubuntu I didnt like any all that much05:09
barrosespecifically, DWL-G122, D-Link05:09
_nano_barros: what's that?05:09
CheeseBurgerManMasterEvilAce`LT: Settings > General > Skip creating taskbar entry05:09
barroswireless adapter, usb05:09
_nano_barros: aah i see..05:10
MasterEvilAce`LTCheeseBurgerMan: thx05:10
chxbarros: you want ndiswrapper05:10
barrosyes, i tried.. i'm using it right now under fedora, but didnt work on ubuntu05:11
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CheeseBurgerManbarros: Which version did you try?05:11
barrosi've just installed ubuntu, so I'm new to this distro05:11
CheeseBurgerManThe one that comes with ubuntu, or the latest?05:11
barrosthe last stable one, 5.something05:11
robotgeekbarros: i absolutely hate that card, are you sure it has the exact chipset?05:11
chxbarros: hmmm ask on forum if you do not get an answer here -- i had no problems whatsoever with ndiswrapper (on my laptop which runs Breezy Xubuntu.)05:11
chxah, you also run Breezy05:12
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chxstrange.05:12
barroshmm.. i've installed the driver05:12
barrosbut when i do a modprobe ndiswrapper, it hangs (just the terminalk)05:12
robin__any one know if kubuntu runs a hard drive at full speed or do i need to configure something?05:12
barrosdmesg show some kernel oops..05:12
barrosI'll download teh new kubunto when it gets released and try again..05:13
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chuckyou know, I think that it might not be the card that the problem is in, but maybe the monitor...05:13
robotgeekbarros: lsusb output please05:13
barrossory, i'm at fedora now, but it show the D-Link device05:14
chuckI tryed your xorg.conf file and it crashed Xserver05:14
barrosBus 005 Device 002: ID 2001:3c00 D-Link Corp. [hex] 05:14
barrosit show something like this.. i think that is it05:14
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_nano_robotgeek: sup05:15
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imbrandonchuck, probbly, becouse i use that card perfect, even with xgl ;)05:15
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chuckbrb05:16
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robotgeekbarros: cool, you need teh ralink driver05:16
_nano_imbrandon: yeah yea..gloat!05:16
imbrandonheh05:17
barrosi think so.. but there was no devel pkg installed, so i dindt try to compile it05:17
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barrosi've just tried the same solution I use here, at fedora.. :((05:17
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Bilfordtj9991, since you wasted so much time, are you going to download the final release05:18
tj9991you can upgrade once its installed, right05:18
robotgeekbarros: can guide you thru it on Kubuntu, i am guessing05:18
Bilfordyes05:18
tj9991then no05:18
_nano_where can i see the changelog between final release and RC ?05:19
barrosrobotgeek: didnt understand what u meant.sorry! :D05:19
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imbrandon_nano_, the dapper -changes mailing list ;)05:19
DShepherdDaSkreech: i knew i would find you here05:19
_nano_imbrandon: link please :P05:19
DaSkreechDShepherd: Stalker!05:20
_nano_haha05:20
DShepherd:-)05:20
DShepherdcome join the party in #ubuntu we trying to break 1000 :-)05:20
imbrandon_nano_, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/05:21
_nano_imbrandon: thanks !05:21
barrosrobotgeek: do u use that card?05:21
robotgeekbarros: nope, i use a pci card from ralink05:21
barroshmm.. use the native driver?05:22
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robotgeekbarros: yes, i am on ppc, so gotta use taht driver05:22
chuckThink its possble to have monitor drivers?05:23
imbrandonno you set the vsync and hsync of them thats all05:23
barrosrobotgeek: i'll wait tomorrow for the final release.. then I'll try that..05:23
robotgeekbarros: okay cool, ping me in here05:23
barrosi'm just switching from fedora05:24
DaSkreech!frostwire05:24
ubotufrostwire is probably a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWireHowTo05:24
barrosso, have no ideia about ubuntu, but sounds very cool05:24
barrosrobotgeek: thanks05:24
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chuckimbrandon: when I conf my monitor type, and reset xserver, it crashes05:24
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robotgeekbarros: no rpm hell for once05:24
chuckIt will crash unless I have a Genetic Monitor05:25
barroshehe..05:25
barrosrobotgeek: anout devel pkgs, is tehre any easy way to install it?05:25
barros*about05:25
chuckit says something about "/etc/wacom" or something like tha05:26
chuckthat05:26
robotgeekbarros: yeah, apt-get install build-essential05:26
james_xxxok i installed 3.5.3... what do i need to do now, just reboot?05:26
barroshmmm.. that is great!!05:27
tj9991!alg305:27
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tj999105:27
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barrosok, gotta go.. i'm looking forward for tomorrow! :DD05:27
robotgeeklater barros05:28
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CheeseBurgerManjames_xxx: No, just restart kde 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop'05:28
barrosi'll leave my nick hanging here..05:28
CheeseBurgerManthen you can start it again with 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start'05:28
chuckI am installing wacom05:28
james_xxxCheeseBurgerMan: thanks05:28
chucksee if that helps05:28
barrosrobotgeek: thanks for the help..05:28
robotgeekbarros: no problem05:29
_nano_robotgeek: hows easyubuntu goin?05:29
chuckbrb05:30
wordWhen I start up Linux the Enterprise Volume manager fails to start so the booting stops...i have to skip it. I get this error repeatedly if I don't skip it - [####.####] Buffer I/O error on device dm-0 Logical block #####05:30
robotgeek_nano_: works decently well, I should think05:30
_nano_robotgeek: about the dma thingy...is it necessary?05:30
robotgeek_nano_: not on dapper, maybe in breezy yes05:30
_nano_robotgeek: aah ok05:31
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wordAny ideas?05:31
robotgeekword: sorry, i have no clue.05:32
robotgeekif no one answers in here, also ask in #ubuntu05:33
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wordrobotgeek: Ok, and i have one more thing uh when i dock something with the bar at the bottom half of it goes 'fuzzy' and if I dock something completely across the bottom bar the entire thing goes 'fuzzy' what could that becaused by?05:33
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robotgeekword: hmm, no clue again. is this default kde?05:34
wordyup05:35
wordIt happened soon after a kde-desktop and a nvidia driver update so that may be the cause..05:35
_nano_what should kde-deskop and nvidia driver have to do with  volume management?05:36
DaSkreechDoes anyone have the http://archive.cessi.net/ubuntu/ repos?05:36
word_nano_: I'm talking about a different problem now05:36
_nano_oops05:36
imbrandonDaSkreech, nope i just use official ones05:36
_nano_word: could you post a screenshot?05:37
DaSkreechThats supposed to have the musicbrainz with mp305:37
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chuckIt says "No Video BOIS modes to use"    what does this mean?05:37
chuckBIOS*05:38
DaSkreechOr if anyone had musicbrainz with mp3 as a deb that would be cool :-)05:38
chuck"No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth"*05:39
chuckThats what it says05:39
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dr_willissounds like your chosen video mode. is not  allowed with the depth (# of colors) you wish to use.05:40
DaSkreechDShepherd: More like trying to get to 925 :-)05:41
chuckBut if I set that up with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it works, when I change the monitor it no longer works05:41
DShepherdok05:41
chuckunless I use Genetic Monitor05:41
DaSkreechDShepherd: You use Limewire or frostwire?05:42
DShepherdLimewire05:42
DaSkreechok05:42
DaSkreechYou use sun java or balckdown?05:42
DaSkreechblackdown?05:42
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DShepherdsun05:43
DaSkreech4 or 5?05:43
K|NgGh0sTIt05:43
DShepherd505:43
DaSkreechok Cool :)05:43
word_nano_: I've tried it the fuzziness doesn't show on screenshots05:44
K|NgGh0sTHow can I stop Kubuntu from displaying "DISPLAY CHANGED: LCD On" Every 5 mins?05:44
DaSkreechHmm I have to install dev files to for flac to get mp3 to work :-)05:44
DaSkreechCool :)05:44
scarnanyone know why when i reboot to windows my clock is 5 hours ahead? i have kubuntu and windows on seperate drives. k/ubuntu (breezy and dapper) both do this, no other distros i have tried do this..05:44
_nano_scarn: check if your machine is set at local time?05:45
OmniDK|NgGh0sT has a question as well05:45
_nano_word: wow thats weird05:45
mister_robotoscarn: i noticed that one computer i installed dapper on is set to time zone UTC, and when i change the time zone to my local one, it stays stuck on UTC. I had to add another time zone and display the clock as that, even thoguh the clock stays stuck on UTC05:46
scarn_nano_ in kubuntu? it is set to local05:46
word_nano_: I tried getting istanbul to work to take a video of it but it freaked out when i tried to do something at 30fps05:46
OmniDword: I think your FSAA settings are up or something05:46
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wordOmniD: FSAA? O.o how would I set those right?05:46
mister_robotoscarn: that is, the "local time zone" stays stuck on UTC, which happens to be 5 hours ahead of central time, my real local time zone05:46
_nano_word: try the usual ksnapshot?05:46
scarnyea im central aswell05:47
scarnpita this is heh05:47
word_nano_: I tried it but it doesn't show it.05:47
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_nano_word: :S05:48
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mister_robotoscarn: you can add more time zones to the clock display and pick that one to show the time. e.g., i added "chicago" there and use that to display the clock. however if i do "date" on the command line, it's still UTC.05:48
DaSkreechubotu: Tell DShepherd about frostwire05:48
troybloody nick thieves05:48
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scarnmister_roboto hmm, i have it set ti chicago.. maybe ill add menominee aswell. see if that does it05:49
word!fsaa05:49
ubotuword: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:49
OmniDword: No clue I haven't even used ubuntu in a while teehee05:50
wordOmniD: meh ><05:50
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OmniDbut FSAA stands for Full-scene anti-alaising05:50
OmniDIt might be the cause WHO KNOWS05:50
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K|NgGh0sThrmm05:52
K|NgGh0sTwell this is usefull05:52
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DaveQB11imbrandon: no HTML or text versions of your resume ?05:54
DaSkreechok05:55
DaSkreechadept just crashed05:55
DaSkreechnot good05:55
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feetboy16erm still having issues with my wallpaper in kde, DaSkreech, are you there?05:56
DaSkreechfeetboy16: yup05:57
feetboy16did you find where KDE stores the info for the wallpaper?05:57
DaSkreechSorry got caught up helping someone else05:57
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K|NgGh0sTHow can I stop Kubuntu from displaying "DISPLAY CHANGED: LCD On" Every 5 mins?05:58
feetboy16oki doki05:58
K|NgGh0sTfeetboy16: /usr/share/wallpaper05:58
feetboy16ok05:58
feetboy16thats not quite what i was looking for05:59
feetboy16the problem is nothing i do seems to change the kde wallpaper05:59
imbrandonDaveQB11, i havent updated it in a while05:59
james_xxxok , i THINK i installed KDE 3.5.3, how do i know for sure that it took? it all looks and feels the same05:59
dr_willisuse the 'about kde' menu item.06:00
DaveQB11imbrandon: i see06:00
dr_willis:P06:00
DaveQB11:)06:00
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DaSkreechfeetboy16: look in ~/.kde/share/config?06:04
feetboy16ok06:04
feetboy16ahhh theres so many :S06:04
feetboy16but i found it06:05
feetboy16i dont know what to change the values to of course06:05
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DaSkreechfeetboy16: Which one?06:06
DaSkreechdisplayconfigrc?06:07
feetboy16~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc06:07
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DaSkreechfeetboy16: pastebin what yours says06:09
feetboy16pastebin link plz?06:09
PyroMithrandir!pastebin06:09
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 06:09
feetboy16ty06:10
feetboy16odd, the pastebin page isnt coming up for me O_o06:11
james_xxxi don't think i have an 'about KDE' menu item lol06:11
feetboy16you do06:11
feetboy16right click the panel06:11
feetboy16highlight help, then about KDE06:12
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K|NgGh0sTWhat's a good FTP Client?06:13
robotgeekK|NgGh0sT: i use konqueror06:13
james_xxxfeetboy16: ty06:14
thompagftp06:14
feetboy16the about KDE option is found in nearly every KDE application, just so you know, james :-)06:14
DaSkreechfeetboy16: try http://kubuntu.pastebin.com06:14
K|NgGh0sTThat works06:14
K|NgGh0sTThanks06:15
feetboy16ok ty das06:15
thompaI always end up using gftp, its fast and simple, works well with digikam06:15
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K|NgGh0sTANyone that can help me get rid of KDE constantly going Display Change: LCD On?06:16
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paperangelcan anyone tell me how to correctly install a broadcom chipset06:16
feetboy16oh no wonder this is going so slowly, i forgot i had synaptic going :$06:16
feetboy16DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1494106:17
DaSkreechK|NgGh0sT: have you tried in #kde06:17
DaSkreechfeetboy16: Looks like the Color1 and Color2 entries can go06:20
feetboy16ok06:21
feetboy16all of them?06:21
DaSkreechfeetboy16: How many times have you logged in multiple users on the same Xserver?06:21
feetboy16only once, ever06:22
DaSkreechI was just noticing that it's very convulted :)06:22
feetboy16oh06:22
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DaSkreechfeetboy16: Want me to give you a pretty much default one so you can start over?06:22
feetboy16yes please06:22
DaSkreechyou can back that one up if you like06:23
DaSkreechfeetboy16: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1494206:24
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feetboy16thank you06:24
DaSkreechLog out and back in and tell me if it works06:25
feetboy16it worked06:25
feetboy16lol06:25
feetboy16thanks das :-)06:25
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feetboy16while im here i might as well ask how you put the trash bin on the desktop?06:27
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DaSkreechYou add a launcher06:28
DaSkreechto trash:/06:28
feetboy16and that will handle the icon changing ness?06:29
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chuckWell this is intressing, I got the screen to 800x600 but all the applations are still at 640x48006:31
chuckWhere is the default RES saved, in xorg.conf?06:33
chuckI can not find it in there?06:33
PyroMithrandirchuck, in the Screen section, Display Subsection06:33
PyroMithrandir"Modes"06:33
PyroMithrandirand look at wha the "DefaultDepth" line is06:34
PyroMithrandirand the Display subsection with that depth is the default06:34
PyroMithrandirthe resolution is the first thing in the "Modes" line06:34
chuckPyroMithrandir, ok, I see that, but that is not what its being set at06:36
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chuckoccording to the system information programie its at 640x480, and I agree with the apps being at that, but the background is at a higher res06:38
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PyroMithrandirchuck, what do you mean the apps are at that but the background is higher?06:39
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chucklike all the background pic and the sreen size all got bigger (I even had to adjust my monitor) but the appliations like Konversation still has the same size letters and a big look06:40
chuckone sec06:40
chuckI wanna try something06:40
chuckI am going to find a pic online that is at my screen res06:40
chuckbrb06:40
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mrfishhattomorrow?06:41
DaSkreechtommorow today06:42
DaSkreechtomorrow comes today :-)06:42
mrfishhatby tomorrowi mean the dapper release06:42
nixternalmuahah releases06:42
mrfishhatbut06:42
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mrfishhatwhat time zone are they using?06:43
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nixternalyou guys are all to late06:46
nixternal[23:37]  <robinl1> Final release will be one week later than usual, to allow for extra non-invasive polish-only changes, settling, testing, documentation of errata and bugs, and the taking of a collective deep breath before MDZ rolls the ISOs. This will not affect the release date for Dapper+1 (that is, the Dapper+1 release cycle will be shortened by one week).06:46
nixternalnext week everybody06:46
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nixternalJUST KIDDING!!!!06:47
nixternalgotcha06:47
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bimberione of the better ones so far06:47
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chuckok I am on 640x48006:47
nixternalmy pda is on 640x480 ;)06:48
chuckEven though that sould be inpossable06:48
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chuckModes           "1024x768" "800x600"06:48
chuckbrb06:48
vinboyshould I restart linux after installing new kde?06:51
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mrfishhatjust restart x06:51
Lynourevinboy: Restart xserver, that should be enough06:51
mrfishhatalt-ctrl-backspace06:51
vinboythanks Lynoure06:52
vinboythe mrfishhat06:52
Xaero_Vincentcool.. KDE 3.5.3 is gonna make it in 6.06.. but could that introduce last minute problems?06:52
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aseigo_bostonXaero_Vincent: it could. but it's been banged on pretty hard at this point.06:54
aseigo_bostonXaero_Vincent: the fixes in 3.5.3 are qualified bug fixes, translation updates and new features that have already shipped in distros already (as part of customizations of the 3.5 tree for those distros)06:55
DaSkreechaseigo_boston: And beyond!!!!06:55
aseigo_bostonhahah.. yeah. AND BEYOND06:55
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DaSkreechShouldn't we all?06:55
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aseigo_bostonwell, i'm -supposed- to be cogent at 09:0006:56
vinboybrb guys06:56
aseigo_bostonsomething i don't usually do06:56
vinboyjust upgraded to kde 3.5.306:56
chuckHow can I setup Xserver to use RAM for video RAM?06:56
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mrfishhatyou know one thing im hoping dapper will asist me with?06:59
mrfishhatThe audio video sync with macromedia flash06:59
chuck?07:00
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DaSkreechSo when do the torrents go?07:06
DaSkreech up?07:06
DShepherdwhen its time07:07
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mrfishhatanyone know what time zone?07:08
Xaero_Vincentyea Im gonna get Kubuntu this time... instead of Gubuntu... 800 bug fixes for 3.5.3 is sweet.07:08
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mrfishhatkubuntu is where its at07:09
mrfishhati mean i dont mind gnome07:09
mrfishhatbut07:09
mrfishhatits not KDE07:09
Xaero_VincentKDE 4 will eat Gnome for lunch... sshhh07:09
mrfishhat3.5 eats gnome hardcore07:09
DaSkreechDShepherd: That's not soon enough :-(07:10
DShepherdDaSkreech: well it will have to do07:10
DaSkreechMising out on the party in edubuntu? :)07:10
mrfishhatwhat WM does edu use?07:11
Xaero_Vincentnot many people are interesting in that07:11
DShepherdthere's a party there too?07:11
Xaero_VincentGnome07:11
DaSkreechXaero_Vincent: Edubuntu or gnome?07:11
Xaero_Vincentit seems thats for little school kids07:11
Xaero_VincentEdubuntu uses gnome07:11
mrfishhatwell it doesnt matter07:11
mrfishhatas long as the kubuntu dapper comes out ASAP07:12
Xaero_VincentMetacity to be exact :)07:12
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DaSkreechIt has a bunch of KDe stuff in it too07:18
DaSkreechIt's quite good for all sorts of learning stuff07:18
DaSkreech for example it has a planetarium which works with telescopes07:19
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oomphhow is 6.06?07:19
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fatejudgerthis is so exciting07:19
fatejudgerlike waiting for the ball to drop, except it happens twice a year07:19
oomphwhat debian repository is the new 6.06 based off?07:20
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crimsunoomph: sid at various points, so in reality, none07:20
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oomphhow up to date is the new version going to be kept?07:21
fatejudgeris Edgy even going to sync with debian anymore?07:21
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mrfishhatGHNS?07:23
DaSkreechGet hot new Stuff07:26
mrfishhatwell07:26
mrfishhatdoes anyone have a dapper countdown timer?07:26
fatejudgerlol07:27
mrfishhati heard june 1st07:27
fatejudgersomeone should have made a superkaramba widget for that07:27
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fatejudgeryeah, but it's around June 1st07:27
fatejudgernot midnight07:27
mrfishhatdamn07:27
fatejudgerkind of takes the suspense out of it07:27
mrfishhati was planning to stay up.07:27
fatejudgerI usually do07:28
fatejudgerit'll come out in a couple of hours most likely07:28
mrfishhati think it adds more suspense07:28
fatejudgerheh, ya07:28
mrfishhatbecause in the morning07:28
fatejudgerthe only reason I care about getting the final is so I can format07:28
fatejudgerI really fucked up some config files07:28
mrfishhatouch07:28
fatejudgeryeah07:28
fatejudgerI also have this weird problem where my computer hangs at shutdown07:29
fatejudgerand I noticed that usplash shutdown was broken again07:29
fatejudgerthey've seemed to have a lot of trouble with that07:29
oomphnew kubunto looks pretty good07:30
oomphive been using xandros :)07:30
oomphmight be a good substitute07:30
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Xaero_VincentMetacity to be exact :)07:32
Xaero_Vincentoops07:32
oomphhrmm is it possible to su to root within ubunto?07:32
Xaero_Vincentlol07:32
DaveQB11oomph:  sudo su07:33
DaSkreechWhats the changelog for kde 3.5.3?07:33
oomphi dont recall setting up a pw for root during installation07:33
Xaero_Vincentlike 800 bug fixes!07:33
Xaero_Vincentthats awasome07:33
DaveQB11oomph: its the main user you set ups' password07:33
DaveQB11man I wronte that really badly.07:33
DaveQB11wrote07:33
fatejudgerDaSkreech: try it out07:33
oomphgotcha07:33
fatejudgerDaSkreech: startup is blazing fast07:33
oomphso you just do sudo su07:34
fatejudgerDaSkreech: plus a huge amount of KHTML optimizations07:34
Snake[Sleep] howto mount iso?07:34
oomphand use main user credentials07:34
DaveQB11oomph: there's no root by default07:34
DaveQB11oomph:  just admin users that are allowed to sudo07:34
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oomphok, cool that makes sense07:34
DaveQB11oomph:  I created root myself on my system07:34
oomphyeah, ill give this sudo method a shot07:34
oomphotherwise ill do likewise07:34
oomphand create a root account07:35
DaveQB11oomph:  i am slowly getting used to it07:35
DaSkreechah Bloody sun!07:35
noiesmooomph, sudo -i07:35
DaSkreechHow do I install the sun java from adept?07:35
Snake[Sleep] DaSkreech: cant07:35
DaveQB11so where's Dapper !!!!07:35
Snake[Sleep] DaSkreech: only works with synaptic07:35
Xaero_Vincentroot isnt a smart idea... especially since Ubuntu doesnt include other kernel security features like Mandatory Access Control.07:35
DaSkreechreally?07:35
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fatejudgerSnake[Sleep] : that's completely incorrect07:35
Snake[Sleep] O really??07:35
DaSkreechnice time to mention this :(07:35
fatejudgerDaSkreech: it isn't a matter Adept/Synaptic07:36
fatejudgerDaSkreech: you have to add the right repos07:36
DaSkreechSnake[Sleep] : so kill adept?07:36
Snake[Sleep] Last time I tried, I needed the liscense verified07:36
DaSkreechfatejudger: It's in universe07:36
DaSkreechRight07:36
Snake[Sleep] annnddd adept wouldnt do that07:36
Snake[Sleep] synaptic does07:36
DaSkreechso kill adept?07:36
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Snake[Sleep] if you wish07:36
fatejudgerDaSkreech: no, it's in a third party repo07:36
Snake[Sleep] DaSkreech: fatejudger may have a better way tho07:36
Xaero_VincentIs Adept as good as Synaptic..?07:36
fatejudgerDaSkreech: if you're talking about the proprietary version of java07:36
Xaero_Vincenti usually just use command line07:37
fatejudgerXaero_Vincent: better, IMO07:37
Snake[Sleep] howto mount isos?07:37
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fatejudgerXaero_Vincent: I do too, but if I didn't have that I'd use Adept07:37
noiesmoDaSkreech, there are 3 basic steps to create a java sun package for kubuntu07:37
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DaSkreechI like it better than synaptic except that it has no changelogs and now I findo ut that I can't interact with prompts07:37
DaveQB11Snake[Sleep] :  mount -o loop file.iso folder07:37
fatejudger!tell DaSkreech about java07:37
oomphwhat exactly does sudo -i do? i read the man pages but don't quite get it07:37
Snake[Sleep] DaveQB11: thanks man07:37
DaveQB11Snake[Sleep] :  no problems07:37
fatejudgerDaSkreech: just use the Seveas repo to get java, super easy07:38
noiesmooomph, basically logs you in as root temperorally man bad spelling07:38
DaveQB11noiesmo: lol07:38
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DaSkreechfatejudger: It's in the repos alreasy07:38
DaSkreechalready07:38
oomphso what would the syntax be?07:38
oomphsudo -i su07:38
oomph?07:38
noiesmooomph, no just sudo -i07:38
fatejudgerDaSkreech: no it isn't07:39
fatejudgerDaSkreech: not the proprietary one07:39
oomphok, and it only lasts for that terminal session?>07:39
DaSkreechfatejudger: I just tried to install it!07:39
noiesmoDaSkreech, I have three commandline steps you can make a java package for kubuntu from the sun package07:39
DaSkreechIt's asking me to agree to the sun agreement07:39
DaveQB11oomph:  using sudo remembers you have authenticated for a period after, in that term session07:39
fatejudgerDaSkreech: really?07:39
DaSkreechfatejudger: Yes07:39
fatejudgerDaSkreech: which package is it?07:39
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DaSkreechsun-java5jre07:40
mrfishhatLOUNGE07:40
DaSkreechor sun-java5bin07:40
fatejudgerDaSkreech: wow, and that's in universe now?07:40
DaSkreechI think they are the same thing07:40
oomphthen what exactly is the differrences between doing sudo su and sudo -i ?07:40
oomphsince both allow you to run as root07:40
DaSkreechfatejudger: yes Sun made a big deal about it and held a press conference07:40
oomphsorry if im being dense :) i just began using linux on Xandros07:40
fatejudgerDaSkreech: I had no idea, this is really cool07:41
noiesmooomph, sudo -i is the recommended way suggest here by most support peoples07:41
fatejudgerDaSkreech: jre depends on bin07:41
Snake[Sleep] fatejudger: now do you see what I was talking about?? lol07:41
DaveQB11oomph: more a technical/appearance.  sudo you stay as you, but subsequent sudo's do not need a password07:41
Snake[Sleep] :)07:41
DaSkreechfatejudger: If it would blooming install07:41
Snake[Sleep] DaSkreech: im tellin ya dude, synaptic.07:41
fatejudgerDaSkreech: I can't wait for Java-KDE integration07:42
fatejudgerSnake[Sleep] : he already figured it out07:42
Snake[Sleep] fatejudger: i see..07:42
oomphis it possible to add the debian repositories to the apt sources list?07:42
fatejudgerSnake[Sleep] : obviously you don't know much about Linux, both Adept and Synaptic are frontends for a program called aptitude07:42
_nano_fatejudger: java-KDE integration? like?07:42
oomphwithout breaking crap07:42
fatejudger_nano_: like not using the stupid Motif look and feel for Swing07:42
DaSkreechwhats that dpkg --reconfigure -a command?07:43
fatejudgerSnake[Sleep] : in other words, they do the same thing07:43
noiesmooomph, not recommended but I do use deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main for mplayer etc07:43
noiesmooomph, i'm running kubuntu dapper and havent had any problems07:43
Snake[Sleep] fatejudger: I know that, all I know is I hit that problem he seemed to be having of it not installing, thats because you have to accept a licesnse agreement, adept (when I used it about a week ago) wouldnt verify this license. Perhaps its changed, but synaptic did let me07:43
oomphnoiesmo : so anything from the SID tree would work but not exactly recommended, correct?07:44
fatejudgerSnake[Sleep] : in Dapper you can click "show details" to do that07:44
fatejudgerSnake[Sleep] : inside of Adept07:44
oomphyeah im running dapper as well07:44
DaSkreechfatejudger: Didn't work07:44
fatejudgerwhat didn't?07:44
DaSkreechI always have the deatils open07:44
DaSkreechdetails07:44
noiesmooomph, I would say yes from personnal experience running kubuntu last 6 months used debian before that for years07:44
fatejudgerDaSkreech: shit, I just tried it to07:44
fatejudgerDaSkreech: that's a bunch of BS07:44
Snake[Sleep] fatejudger: thats is what I thought too, it didnt work, hence why I said synaptic07:45
fatejudgerDaSkreech: it must use ncurses or something stupid07:45
fatejudgerSnake[Sleep] : or CLI...07:45
Snake[Sleep] My apt-get wouldnt do it.07:45
DaSkreechWell it uses my curses07:45
oomphnoiesmo: have you tried using the "pinning" I read about it on the debian site07:45
Snake[Sleep] I didnt try aptitude07:45
oomphhttp://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version07:45
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noiesmooomph, only on my debian installs07:45
oomphyou can set priority when you have multiple repositories or something07:45
oomphi would imagine it would work for kubunto source list as well07:46
fatejudgerSnake[Sleep] : it works in the CLI07:46
Snake[Sleep] Hmmm07:46
fatejudgerSnake[Sleep] : I hate curses....07:46
noiesmooomph, more than likely kubuntu is a debian derivitive07:46
Snake[Sleep] Updates perhaps, as I said, I tried it about 6 days ago, I would hope theyve been gettin it to work for the release tomorrow on all fronts07:46
oomphnoiesmo: how long have you been running Kubunto? did you run debian for a long time prior?07:47
noiesmooomph, about six months with kubuntu and about 2-3years running debian07:47
oomphhave you ever tried xandros?07:47
oomphits debian based as well07:48
oomphi originally learned some linux on debian but coming from windows it was a bit of a leap07:48
oomphi liked the debian system so gave xandros a shot07:48
noiesmooomph, no, havnt tried only went to kubuntu for xgl/compiz eye candy07:48
mrfishhatin the ubuntu site07:48
mrfishhaton the forums07:48
DaSkreechwhat would lock /var/cache/debconf/config.dat?07:48
mrfishhatthey have dapper as the current release07:48
oomphthis new version of Kubunto is lots like xandros07:49
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DaSkreechfound it07:49
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DaSkreechYay and Frostwire doesn't work!!07:51
oomphfound this guide07:52
oomphhttp://www.krazypenguin.net/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide#Welcome_to_the_Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide_.21.21.2107:52
oomphseems pretty useful07:52
oomphfor newbs like myself :)07:52
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noiesmooomph, cool :)07:54
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DaSkreech!frostwire07:54
ubotufrostwire is, like, totally, a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWireHowTo07:54
noiesmoDaSkreech, frostwire needs java 1.5+ and also you may need to run a dos2unix command to correct a packageing error07:56
DaSkreechnoiesmo: The wiki page has a update-alternatives fix that fixes the problem07:56
DaSkreechnoiesmo: Thanks07:57
noiesmoDaSkreech, np07:57
DaSkreechSo I just need musicbrainz and I'll be happy for a week at least07:57
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Mussorgskywhy on earth does Ctrl+Tab not work?08:03
oomphcan't apt-get install mozzilla08:05
oomphits not in the repository08:05
noiesmooomph, mozilla not mozzila08:05
noiesmooomph, firefox is mozilla-firefox08:05
LynoureMussorgsky: In which context?08:05
noiesmomaybe you want Alt+Tab08:05
DaveQB11oomph:  use an apt-get frontend and search, makes life easier ;-)08:06
DaveQB11oomph:  adept has servered me wll08:06
DaveQB11who else finds the chick in the "Desktop" image on the Ubuntu eb site, hot ?08:07
noiesmoapt-cache search keyword's is always good08:07
DaveQB11eb=web08:07
mrfishhatthe chick above server?08:07
DaveQB11noiesmo: i prefer the GUI way ;-)08:07
MussorgskyLynoure: KDE, to switch desktops08:07
DaveQB11mrfishhat:  no no, Desktop08:07
mrfishhatah she looks like a 15year old asian girl08:08
DaveQB11nahhhh08:08
DaveQB11at least 17 :)08:08
Mussorgskyalso, I can't play mp3s... just installed gstreamer0.8-mad but it08:09
Mussorgskydidn't solve it08:09
oomphyeah i tried adept but could not find it there either08:09
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crimsunMussorgsky: in dapper or breezy?08:09
Mussorgskydapper08:09
crimsunMussorgsky: and which app are you using to play mp3s?08:09
mrfishhatdoes anyone know if theres a way to get xgl/compiz and twinview working together?08:09
noiesmooomph, what you app you looking for08:09
Bilfordfor dapper mp3, you need   sudo apt-get libxine-extracodecs08:10
Mussorgskyjust installed kubuntu dapper, using amarok or kaffeine to play08:10
crimsunMussorgsky: you need to enable universe + multiverse and install libxine-extracodecs08:10
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Mussorgskyok, thanks :) this solves mp308:10
crimsungst0.8 is deprecated.08:10
Bilfordwhat does XMMS use?08:10
crimsunan internal mpg123-based lib.08:10
Bilfordmy laptop likes that bettter for ogg08:11
Bilfordthe libxine sounded scratchy08:11
Mussorgskynow, how can I switch desktops ? (or better, configure the shortcut) ctrl+f1 f2 etc is no good, I have to move my hands a lot for that08:11
Bilfordsounds fine on my desktop though08:11
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oomphwhen i use adept to search for mozilla i find it but its greyed out08:13
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Bilfordsounds like you need to enable multiverse or universe08:13
oomphi do not see that as an option within the gui08:14
chavomrfishhat, yes you can get twinview and xgl working together08:14
BilfordSystem- Adept08:15
Bilfordafter Adept is open, go to Adept- Manage Repositories08:15
mrfishhatchavo: have you done it? if so i would like to know where to start08:16
Bilfordenable the grayed out lines that have text in the Distribution/Components columns08:16
chavomrfishhat, yes I have it working08:16
chavodid you enable the quinstorm repos?08:16
BilfordApply -  then Fetch Updates08:17
mrfishhatquinstorm?08:17
chavoit's an updated xgl and compiz08:17
Bilfordoomph, are you doing all this08:17
mrfishhatchavo: interesting08:17
oomphyes08:17
oomphthanks bilford08:17
oomphi think i gots it08:17
mrfishhatchavo: i must add it to my sources?08:18
oomphi see the source list you are refering to08:18
chavomrfishhat, yes that's the easiest way08:18
oomphso enable universe and multiverse then?08:18
Bilfordenable the grayed out lines that have text in the Distribution/Components columns (by right-clicking them and Enabling)08:18
Bilfordyes08:18
Bilfordthen Apply -  then Fetch Updates08:18
mrfishhatchavo: is that the beerorkid ones?08:18
chavoyes08:19
mrfishhatits late here08:19
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mrfishhatchavo: i bookmarked those and im off to bed but thanks for telling me it works, i can NEVER go back to just one monitor08:19
chavoyeah me neither08:20
oomphbilford, thanks for the help. I did an apt-get update08:21
Bilfordok08:21
oomphand seems to have added the repositories08:21
mrfishhathttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/08:22
mrfishhatftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/.pool/08:22
oomphwhich is better? firefox or regular mozilla?08:22
_nano_regular mozilla?08:23
_nano_seamonkey? :P08:23
me2winoomph: firefox08:23
me2winoomph: mozilla is a little bloated08:23
oomphk08:23
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BilfordI like Konqueror08:24
mrfishhathttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/08:25
mrfishhatjust for those like me who want to start downloading the dapper final08:25
oomphwhich irc client is best? ive only used xchat from my debian days. Are there any better ones since?08:25
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Bilfordeveryone has their own preference08:26
me2winoomph: konversation is good for KDE08:26
BilfordI like Konversation08:26
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mrfishhatKonversation08:26
me2winoomph: but I use xchat because it has word filtering, with Konversation doesn't have08:26
BilfordIm not a Kubuntu mouthpiece.  I really do like Konqueror and Konversation08:26
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n3stormme2win, what is word filtering for?08:27
wordstop saying word ><08:27
me2winn3storm: when you cuss alot like me, i type in f*ck and comes out at f*ck08:27
me2winas*08:27
james_xxxis it possible to copy text in xchat? i was never able to, that was always my big issue with it08:27
n3stormaah, hehehe08:27
n3stormass08:28
n3stormnope08:28
n3stormhehehe08:28
steveklIs it not possible to steam a dvd over LAN?08:29
me2winlol08:29
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cfraz89stevekl: yep08:30
cfraz89nmm is tailored for stuff like that08:30
steveklnmm?08:30
steveklWhat's that exactly?08:31
cfraz89http://www.networkmultimedia.org/08:31
cfraz89its a multimedia framework08:31
cfraz89made for network integration08:31
cfraz89http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3010008:32
cfraz89and that is a good frontend for it i think08:32
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi there, is there a way in mplayer of filtering the visualized video sequence in the same way a television does?08:35
Tallia1Kubuntua CRT i mean.. when i watch a lo-quality movie on a crt it looks  way better08:35
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LynoureTallia1Kubuntu: On tv it every other line, then the others. But that does not happen on a computer CRT. And on LCD it might even look bad, but sorry, no idea how to force it.08:37
Lynoures/it every/it shows every08:37
Tallia1Kubuntu??08:38
Tallia1Kubuntuon ty it every other line, then the others? doesn't make any sense to me.....08:38
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Tallia1Kubuntuand the second phrase even worse.. !?!?!?08:38
n3stormanybody using 3.5.3?08:38
n3stormwww.kubuntu.org server looks down08:39
n3stormany admin in this channel?08:40
crimsunit's not at all down.08:40
_nano_n3storm: it's working for me08:40
n3stormhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php08:40
n3stormcan you reach this page, please08:40
crimsunyes.08:40
chavoworks here08:40
n3stormnow yes08:40
n3stormhehehe08:40
n3stormthanks08:40
_nano_lol08:40
n3stormInternet is a bit starnge this days in Spain, sorry, false alarm08:41
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deini cant get azureus to work on my computer08:48
deini think its the version of java ive got08:48
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cfraz89dein, you need sun java08:50
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cfraz89and you have to rename the gcj /usr/bin/java to something else08:50
cfraz89and then link the sun java to /usr/bin/java08:50
fatejudgersudo update-alternatives --config java08:51
deinok thanks08:52
deinit still doesnt work ; ;08:55
fatejudgerwell you didn't install sun's java08:56
Vampiswhen u want to run a jar-file08:57
Vampisis it java -jar filename.jar ?08:57
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deinive got the plf version of sun java08:59
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ssajt-109:00
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serenityhi09:02
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serenityeverytime i want to configure a programm, shell give me this http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1303/09:04
chakie_workdo you have a c compiler installed?09:04
chakie_workkubuntu doesn't install one by default...09:04
serenityi did apt-get install gcc09:05
ash211try apt-get install build-essential also09:06
ash211that includes more than just gcc09:06
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chakie_workit's always a hassle to get a ubuntu system up an running as a development system09:06
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serenityseems, there are no sources, but uni and multiserve are included09:07
serenityi mean multiverse09:07
oomphanyone know how to setup kubunto to log into an active directory domain?09:07
Vampishm, activity09:08
Vampisrepeating myself then :)09:08
Vampiswhen u want to run a jar-file09:08
Vampisis it java -jar filename.jar ?09:08
oomphkinda the way xandros biz edition does09:08
deinok09:09
deinive got the latest version of java installed now09:10
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deinazureus loads but then freezes showing "azureus did not shut down tidily"09:10
fatejudgerdein: why are you using Azureus anyway?09:11
fatejudgerdein: it sucks, use KTorrent instead09:11
serenitywhere to find the build-essential09:11
DaveQB11can one use the Desktop Live CD's to install to a partition of your choice ? Or it does it for you , no choice, full wipe out of disk?09:11
Vampisserenity: sudo apt-get install build-essential ?09:11
DaveQB11ktorent rocks!09:11
serenitymy fault.09:11
deinive yet to get ktorrent to download anywhere near as fast as azureus09:11
serenitydid essenitalS09:11
deini cant get its upnp plugin to work09:12
oomphsudo tar jxvf Azureus_2.4.0.2_linux.tar.bz2 -C /opt09:12
oomphsudo gedit /usr/share/applications/azureus.desktop09:12
DaveQB11speed is al relevant to everyone else that file09:12
chakie_workktorrent is good09:12
fatejudgerdein: technically, there shouldn't be a speed difference09:12
chakie_workit *can* crash, but it gets stuff downloaded09:12
fatejudgerchakie_work: ktorrent doesn't crash09:12
fatejudgerchakie_work: at least if you use 1.2 it doesn't09:12
chakie_workyes it does09:13
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chakie_work1.2 something09:13
deinFatejudger: it might have something to do with my router, i dont know09:14
fatejudgerchakie_work: file a bug report then09:14
chakie_workwhen i remove a perpetually stalled or a completed download it does crash, maybe once every 5 times09:14
fatejudgerchakie_work: weird, never happened to me09:14
chakie_workfatejudger: heh, and that means that it can't happen?09:14
chakie_workfatejudger: are you a developer?09:14
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fatejudgerchakie_work: for KTorrent, no09:16
chakie_workapart from the crashes i love ktorrent09:16
fatejudgerchakie_work: it means there should be some reproducible error09:16
chakie_workit doesn't seem to lose data so i can restart it if it dies09:16
cfraz89ktorrent 2.0 beta is good09:16
deinoomph09:16
fatejudgerthat's out?09:16
deinim running kubuntu09:17
chakie_workfatejudger: sure, but i download very little stuff, so it's not too easy to reproduce09:17
deinwill sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/azureus.desktop still work for me?09:17
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fatejudgerdo the 5.10 packages work on Dapper?09:18
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cfraz89its not in apt-get, but the ubuntu package is at kde-apps.org09:19
chakie_worki'll have to compile it :)09:21
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imbrandondein, no "kdesu kate /usr/share/applications/azureus.desktop" will work though09:23
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chakie_workhm, the ktorrent 2.0b kubuntu package, is it for breezy or dapper?09:23
serenityit's the first time i compiled a source...*g*09:23
chakie_workok, it shouldn't take long before dapper is released...09:24
fatejudgerthat 5.10 KTorrent package doesn't work with Dapper09:25
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fatejudgerdoes anyone know where you can get a Dapper package?09:25
serenitystable?09:25
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fatejudgerno, for KTorrent09:28
fatejudgerthe beta09:28
serenityhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dapper/09:28
Vampis:))09:28
fatejudgerthat's the RC09:29
fatejudgerI'm talking about KTorrent though09:29
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shadow_mil#ubuntu has gone dapper mad...09:36
shadow_mildoes (k)ubuntu have agpgart support?09:37
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cfraz89im using the ktorrent package 2.0 beta09:39
serenityhow to copy files with sudo?09:39
cfraz89i had to force overwrite though09:39
cfraz89serenity:09:41
cfraz89sudo 'cp <from> <to>'09:41
_nano_cfraz89: sup09:42
serenityand whole folders?09:42
cfraz89ummm09:42
_nano_cp -r foldername09:42
serenityk09:42
serenityty09:42
_nano_cp -r old new09:42
_nano_to be precidse :P09:43
cfraz89hi _nano_09:44
serenityand if i want to copy all files of a folder to another?09:45
_nano_cp .* newfolderlocation/09:45
_nano_cp *.* rather09:45
_nano_or cp * would do09:46
_nano_* is a wildcard kind of09:46
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deindoes ubuntu have a firewall running by default?09:49
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cfraz89no09:52
MasterEvilAceyou can get firestarter, i think that's a common firewall09:54
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kakaltowhen's the countdown? xD10:01
MasterEvilAceno idea10:01
serenityhow to install a program which is local on my hdd, like xyz.deb10:02
Vampissudo dpkg -i xyz.deb10:03
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cfraz89if you right click on it you can go to kubuntu package menu -> Install package10:05
Vampisguigays10:06
Vampis:P10:06
cfraz89lol10:06
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wordwhat does this error mean - http://rafb.net/paste/results/LSATxx90.html ?10:18
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sUperhow do i install firefox10:29
Vampissudo apt-get install firefox10:30
Vampis*shaking his head*10:30
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_nano_sUper: also add: MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1  in your /etc/environment10:31
cromowhy is the http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest not redirecting to kde-3.5.3? It should :>10:32
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GazzaKcromo: but http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353/ is10:34
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_rince_mrgn10:37
imbrandonello10:37
GazzaKhey imbrandon, morning guy10:37
imbrandonheya GazzaK10:37
GazzaKmy head hurts!10:37
shadow_milthanks10:38
chunLaptophey does firefox freeze on you guys when you visit a flash intensive site like myspace10:38
GazzaKI think I need to invest in some form of cattleprod for my users here...  they just don't learn. :(10:38
imbrandonchunLaptop, i stray away from myspace as much as possible but no flash is not a problem for me with ff ( most users that have problems with ff crashing its due to an extension )10:39
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chunLaptopit's only on some flash sites for me, but ok10:39
cromoGazzaK: it doesn't redirect to 353 - it _contains_ it.10:40
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OmniDchunLaptop: Your problem is that you are visitiing MySpace10:45
OmniD*visiting10:45
GazzaKlol @ OmniD10:45
chunLaptop=p =p10:47
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chunLaptopi don't think the packagers decided to put code just to smite myspace =p i've been getting around it using konqueror but..10:49
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chunLaptopstill sucks10:51
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Ed_Lwow, so quiet compared to #ubuntu11:02
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Filladoindeed11:07
imbrandonDapper Released : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/      http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06/11:10
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Bilfordfinally11:10
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Bilfordfront page still has Breezy11:11
imbrandongive it a few minutes11:11
imbrandonits there11:11
RogueJediXWoo!11:12
deinoooh11:12
deindapper final is out now?11:12
cfraz89yay11:12
Bilfordyou have inside information then11:13
Bilforddo you work on it11:13
imbrandonBilford, http://wiki.kubuntu.org/imbrandon11:13
Filladohttp://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06/11:13
Filladoalthough apparently it's "not out" yet11:13
imbrandonFillado, already said ;)11:14
deinhow do i upgrade to it?11:14
Filladooh yeah :D11:14
deinoh11:14
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Bilfordoh yeah, I remember that topic11:14
deinwell when its out, how do i upgrade to it?11:14
RogueJediXdein: Wait a while then type sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade11:14
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BilfordCongratulating you on being a member11:14
deinok11:14
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RogueJediXimbrandon: If I upgrade via apt now will I get the RC version or the final one?11:15
cfraz89its like crazy on #ubuntu11:15
deinstill rc11:15
deini tried a sec now11:16
deiner just recently11:16
RogueJediXOh. I'll just wait a few hours then11:16
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imbrandonRogueJediX, final11:16
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RogueJediXOh. Cool!11:16
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PPowerdo you think the repos have been updated?11:17
deinthe repos havent been updated for me 0.o11:17
PPowerneither here11:17
imbrandondein, if you have been doing update then you have the release11:18
dein0.o so im already on final?11:18
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imbrandondein, correct ...11:18
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deinstrange11:18
deini was expecting a much bigger update11:19
deini've only had 5 files updated so far11:19
imbrandonif you do alot of small updates one big one is not needed ;)11:19
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robso.. its official I see11:20
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robhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html11:20
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deini did not know apt-get had azureus11:21
Spaceraveryay...11:22
Riddelldrumroll please...11:22
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cfraz89lol no update for me11:22
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:imbrandon] : Dapper Drake 6.06 LTS Ready for download See - http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.06-lts-release.php | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems | Shipit!-Get FREE Kubuntu CDs shipped directly to your home! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ | Please don't paste into the channel, use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | Please take off-topic conversations to #kubuntu-offtopic
Riddell** ladies and gentlemen your attention please11:22
Riddellthanks imbrandon11:22
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Ed_Lyaaay!11:22
RiddellKubuntu 6.06 LTS has been released!  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.06-lts-release.php11:22
Ed_La lot more quiet than #ubuntu :P11:22
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deinwho is in charge of the azureus package?11:23
imbrandonEd_L, they are just nuts over there ;)11:23
imbrandonheh11:23
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Ed_Lindeed :P11:24
Ed_Lsilleh gnome users :P11:24
RogueJediXWow. It is pretty hectic11:25
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Spaceraverman unubtu chan is buzzing atm... too much for my taste11:26
K|NgGh0sTYou're telling me11:26
RogueJediXI feel a little bit sorry for the announcer. He must be getting pounded in there11:27
Spaceraverheh... like someone just saw an alien...11:27
dbgltis there a ubuntu kde 3.5.3 package?11:27
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imbrandondbglt, yes look at http://www.kubuntu.org11:29
Terminus-dbglt: guess not. running dapper here and it's at 3.5.2.11:29
Josh43Ok, so did we get tricked then? all the downloads shows isos for 24 hours ago11:29
Terminus-dbglt: maybe edgy. :)11:29
dbgltTerminus-: ah11:29
imbrandonTerminus ther are packages avaible on kubuntu.org11:29
reonat last 6.06 is out11:29
BlueEagle"This release comes with KDE 3.5.2 and includes a..." from http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.06-lts-release.php11:29
scheuriKDE 3.5.3 only fpr Kubuntu 6.06??11:29
h3sp4wnkde 3.5.3 seems to be working fine here11:30
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Josh43scheuri: Feature freze was a while ago, the new ver must not have made it in time11:30
imbrandonBlueEagle,  dbglt , Terminus http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php11:30
dbgltyep, linked from main11:30
dbgltupdating now11:30
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dbgltimbrandon: thanks :)11:31
Terminus-imbrandon: whoa... cool! haven't been to that site in a while... thought it was a backport or something...11:31
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scheuriJosh43: actually...I wonder if there is 3.5.3 for breezy...11:31
imbrandonscheuri, no11:31
scheuriJosh43: I nearly updated breezy with dapper KDE packages...;)11:31
scheuriimbrandon: thanks for answer11:31
Filladoscheuri: yeah there is11:32
monadhi... two questions: 1) why is it that less <file> says "invalid charset name" all of a sudden? 2) how can i start sshd and add it to a runlevel (can't find sth like /etc/init.d/sshd start or rc-update add sshd default or whatever)11:32
Terminus-oh... different repos. hehe11:32
Filladooh11:32
Filladonvm11:32
imbrandonmonad, apt-get install ssh11:32
monadimbrandom, how dumb do you think i am11:32
imbrandonnot very , just making sure you had irt installed11:33
scheuriweeeeeeeell....is there or isnt there...;)11:33
monadimbrandom, it'S there, but it has to be started, right? and added to a runlevel manually11:33
imbrandonshould have to11:33
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imbrandonshoudnt*11:33
monadthere is sth like rc-update in kubuntu i presume11:34
imbrandonone sec ...11:34
K|NgGh0sTif I am already running dapper shouldnt apt-get dist-upgrade work?11:34
Lynouremonad: is it there? I don't think openssh-server is installed by default.11:34
seaLneK|NgGh0sT: apt-get update first?11:35
K|NgGh0sTdid11:35
seaLneK|NgGh0sT: should be fine11:35
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K|NgGh0sTmaybe my source isnt upto date?11:35
monadlynoure: ok... i already installed ssh and sshd - i can use ssh to tunnel to remote machines. but in order to get into *this machine, sshd has to be started11:35
imbrandonmonad,11:35
imbrandonbrandon@server:~$ /etc/init.d/ssh restart11:35
imbrandon * Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...11:35
seaLneK|NgGh0sT: apt-get update should fix that11:35
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K|NgGh0sTno, I mean, maybe ca.archive.ubuntu.com isnt upto date11:36
dbgltis it possible to use XGL with ati cards?11:36
mindhello, is there anyone who can help me configure nvidia drivers on ubuntu breeze ? thanks11:36
seaLneK|NgGh0sT: there were only like 4 packages changed in the last 24 hours11:36
monadimbrandon, thanks. and is there some script like rc-update that let's me add it to default runlevel?11:36
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mindplease, my eyes are aching, i can't set a higher refresh rate than 60 hz.11:38
imbrandonmonad, i'm not familiar with rc-update , but you can cahnge the run levels by ....... *looks it up*11:38
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l_rhello11:38
Kadran!nvidia11:38
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia11:38
l_ris there a dvd iso for kubuntu lts?11:38
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l_r!dvd11:38
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)11:38
l_r!iso11:38
seaLneDVD images are not quite ready yet11:38
ubotuhmm... iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto11:38
l_rok11:38
l_rthanks11:39
seaLneshould be up shortly11:39
mindwhy won't anyone help ? :(11:40
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Kadranubotu: tell mind about !nvidia11:40
deinmind11:40
dbgltcan anyone help me out or point me to a howto explaining how to use XGL and get it running under dapper?11:41
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deinyou using a regular monitor?11:41
mindyes, a CRT monitor11:41
K|NgGh0sTHow come I keep getting "Display Changed: LCD On" randomly?11:41
mindit supports 1600 x 1200 @ 85 hz, but i can't set it higher than 1024 x 728 @ 60 hz11:41
deinok  go to system settings quick11:41
mindand do what ? :\11:42
deingo to display and click the hardware tab11:42
mindi only have system > eferences and administration11:43
mind*preferences11:43
PPoweri need a hand modifing a  bootup script. ubuntu is too buisy right now11:43
deinare you on ubuntu?11:43
PPowerboth really11:43
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PPowerbut i use kubuntu more11:43
mindyes, ubuntu breeze x6411:44
l_ri wonder whether it takes more to install from cd and download/install the rest or wait for the dvd iso.....11:44
MidMarkdbglt: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/CompositeManager/Xgl11:44
deinehh... i don't know how to do it all that much in ubuntu11:44
deinwhat card are you using?11:44
mindon the upper left corner of the screen i have application, places and system11:44
mindi have a leadtek 6800GT (nvidia)11:44
deindo you have proprietary drivers installed?11:45
BlueEaglehttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Netboot does not exist yet it's referenced from http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.06-lts-release.php11:45
mindyes, i followed the tutorial on wiki.ubuntu.com11:45
mindbut i don't know where the nvidia settings are at11:46
deinok gimme a sec11:46
mindok, thanks11:46
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deindo "sudo nvidia-xconfig --mode=1600x1200" to enable that resolution11:47
mindin the terminal .. right ?11:47
deinya11:47
K|NgGh0sTuh11:48
mindcommand not found :|11:48
mindhow about refresh rates ?11:48
K|NgGh0sTI installed nvidia drivers, and when I rebooted, all my text is now oversized, how can I get everything back to normal sized font11:48
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monadcan somebody please tell me why i get "invalid charset name" in xterm when i "less" or try to access a man page?11:49
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monadthis is really annoying11:49
deinis there a display settings in ubuntu?11:49
mindyes, but the highest resolution i can choose is 1024 x 768 with a refresh rate of 60 hz11:50
deinis there a hardware option anywhere in that menu?11:50
mindsystem > preferences > screen resolution11:50
mindno, there isn't11:50
monadwow11:50
deinsigh11:50
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FilladoMind: You need to edit your xorg.conf file :)11:51
koshmonad: no idea why it happens, I have also not used xterm in ..... well a while11:51
mindfillado, may i msg you ?11:51
Filladosure11:51
=== monad neither... maybe that's the reason
koshyou can change the resolution of the running system however it only presents the modes that the system has detected11:51
monadkosh: seems there'S something wrong with locales11:51
koshif the system can not identify what modes are valid then it can't present choices11:52
monadbtw... can somebody tell me how update-rc.d works?11:52
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K|NgGh0sTI installed nvidia drivers, and when I rebooted, all my text is now oversized, how can I get everything back to normal sized font11:53
wordwhat does this error mean - http://rafb.net/paste/results/LSATxx90.html ?11:53
mindfillado... priv pls :)11:53
deinonly the text?11:53
dr3asdamn, typical.. showing of my laptop to a friend, he really likes kubuntu he says, and ask if he just can check out a site.. ofc, he writes the url and a message about no flash 8 is displayed :S11:53
deinare you running kubuntu?11:53
K|NgGh0sTyeah11:53
worddr3as: You can install flash...just not shockwave.11:54
K|NgGh0sTwell everything seems to be oversized11:54
K|NgGh0sTevery piece of text11:54
koshprobably running in a different resolution then you where previously11:54
deinis it only the text, or is everything bigger11:54
koshif it is text then the system probably figured out the dpi wrong which is very strange to have happen11:54
deingraphics etc?11:54
K|NgGh0sTI checked system monitor it said I was still running 1680x105011:55
worddoes anyone know what this error message means? - http://rafb.net/paste/results/LSATxx90.html11:55
K|NgGh0sTer not monitor11:55
K|NgGh0sTInfo Centre11:55
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FilladoMind: just go to your monitor's website, find the specs for yours, and then edit your xorg.conf file for the horizontal and vertical refresh rates11:55
zblachhi. I've attempted installing 5.10 to a laptop, and everything seems to have gone well, but kde doesn't seem to load up. any ideas?11:55
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deinunless kosh has a better solution (which he probably does) go to appearance in system settings and lower your font size11:55
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EvilIdlerBoo, the Dapper kernel is STILL broken :(11:56
dr3asnot 8 as far as i know11:56
koshthe dpi needs to be fixed but I don't have time to walk people through it right now11:56
koshI need to get other work done11:56
LynoureEvilIdler: Which way?11:56
EvilIdlerLynoure: Can't mount root partition. It's been reported in several different bug reports, but only rated 'Major'11:56
babyhi guys i tried to install flash player on Mozilla but it says x86_64 is not supported by the macromedia so what can i do for it ?11:57
LynoureEvilIdler: Which kind of fs? *curious*11:57
EvilIdlerLynoure: Ext3 in my case. Some of the others with the problem have different systems11:57
EvilIdlerLynoure: It's a problem in the initrd - no devices exist11:58
koshbaby: you have a long path to try and make that work, flash does not support ANY 64bit systems regardless of os11:58
zblach?11:59
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mindFillado : i do know the specs for my monitor, i just have no idea how to edit xorg.conf. can you help please ?11:59
koshbaby: there is a webpage somewhere that says how to get around that in linux but the thing ends up running a 32bit version of mozilla etc so that you can run a 32bit version of flash11:59
LynoureEvilIdler: ah, a SATA bug11:59
EvilIdlerLynoure: I don't have SATA11:59
koshbaby: however in my case I consider it to be a feature that 64bit systems don't run flash :)11:59
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mindanyone ?11:59
EvilIdlerJust a plain, old. run-of-the-assmeblyline ATA drive12:00
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babykosh: then i'll not be able to run it12:00
Filladoin a terminal type "sudo kwrite", then open /etc/x11/xorg.conf :)12:00
koshbaby: there are ways around that but in windows and linux there is no easy way to run flash on a 64bit system12:00
FilladoMind: ^12:00
koshbaby: that is why many that still want to use stuff like flash just run a 32bit version of the os instead12:00
zblachanyone have breezy/dapper on a laptop?12:01
mindfillado : i don't understand12:01
minduhm, ok, i'm blind, i'll try it now12:01
Filladolol12:01
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mindmind@dyn-85:~$ sudo kwrite12:02
mindsudo: kwrite: command not found12:02
mindmind@dyn-85:~$12:02
K|NgGh0sTkosh, do I just edit xorg.conf?12:02
imbrandonFillado, dont use sudo for graphical apps , use kdesu12:02
imbrandonmind "kdesu kate"12:02
K|NgGh0sTzblach: I am running dapper on this laptop12:02
worddoes anyone know what this error message means? - http://rafb.net/paste/results/LSATxx90.html12:03
zblachK|NgGh0sT: what kind of laptop?12:03
LynoureEvilIdler: hmm, can you then give me the bug number? (but no, cannot probably help you apart from telling to try some other kernel to see if the bug is not longer)12:03
K|NgGh0sTAsus z71v12:03
Filladoworks fine for me :D12:03
zblachK|NgGh0sT: any problems?12:03
mindimbrandon, tried that too, doesn't work12:03
Filladowhat does kdesu do?12:03
imbrandonFillado, its for graphical apps , sudo on graphical apps will mees the permissions up12:03
holdendoes anyone knows why http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dapper/kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso.torrent doesn't work?12:03
zblachFillado: kde + sudo = kdesu12:03
K|NgGh0sTzblach: just the intel wireless sucks for WPA12:03
Filladoah12:03
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EvilIdlerLynoure: Bugs 32446, 32123, are relevant to my problem. I use kernel 2.6.15-23-686 on a P412:04
imbrandonFillado, and kwrite is now kate on dapper12:04
mindany more suggestions ? :|12:04
imbrandon;)12:04
zblachK|NgGh0sT: oh. not worried about wireless yet. kde doesn't load on my HP dv168012:04
mindi don't have dapper12:04
imbrandonmind, what are you trying to edit ?12:04
zblachit thinks it loads, but it doesn't12:04
Filladolol ok, just kate and kwrite were both on breezy12:04
mindimbrandon, xorg.conf12:04
imbrandonthen "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"12:05
K|NgGh0sTI really wish I never installed those Nvidia drivers now12:06
mindopens it, but it's a blank file. omg :|12:06
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LynoureEvilIdler: Have you tried the workarounds mentioned in the first one?12:06
wordimbrandon: Meh.....any idea what this error means? - http://rafb.net/paste/results/LSATxx90.html I keep seeing it all over the place..even just opening up an app it shows twice.12:06
imbrandonmind, make sure you dident typo12:07
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EvilIdlerLynoure: All of them, several times, despite logic saying I shouldn't ;)12:07
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imbrandonword, no idea12:07
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imbrandonohhh word12:07
mindimbrandon, i triple-checked :|12:07
imbrandonword, thats becouse you have some extra entries for input devices in your xorg.conf12:08
wordo.O12:08
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EvilIdlerLynoure: There's no alternative kernel I can use to get proper 3D support, either, since nvidia-glx mysteriousy has a dependency of the generic architecture12:08
imbrandonword take out the tablet pc stuff12:08
imbrandonin xorg.conf12:08
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K|NgGh0sTdein: where is system settings?12:09
imbrandonK|NgGh0sT, kmenu --> systems settings12:09
deinin your start menu12:09
K|NgGh0sTdefinitly not there12:10
EvilIdlerLynoure: It seems like the latest kernels don't hava ATA drivers built-in :/12:10
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MadTony71General newbie question of the day, laugh if you must, but where do I find my mounted volume icons so I can visually manipulate the files in them?12:10
KmirnoMadTony71: media:/12:10
RiddellMadTony71: System Menu->Storage Media12:10
LynoureEvilIdler: That's sad. :/  What do you use meanwhile? (Based on loads of people complaining about things directly or indirectly related to nvidia, I'm so happy I went for ati...)12:10
MadTony71they don't show up in there, just floppy....:/12:10
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EvilIdlerLynoure: Using the Breezy kernel with nv driver. No 3D :(12:11
EvilIdlerLynoure: ATI has only caused problems for those I know who use it :P12:11
KmirnoLynoure: based on all theses hours of pain I experienced with ati I'm so happy for switching to nvidia12:11
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tristanAnyone has done the upgrade through the internet yet?12:11
imbrandoneww ati ;)12:11
EvilIdlerLynoure: I think both are equally problematic if you don't have them working first time, but my problem is not the nvidia drivers anyway12:11
K|NgGh0sTdein: Its really not there12:12
LynoureKmirno: I guess it's a matter of luck :)12:12
_nano_imbrandon: yeah eww ati...i had to wait till xorg 7 for my old radeon 7500 to be fully exploited :(12:12
deinit should be be right above the actions tab12:12
K|NgGh0sTIts not12:13
deinare you running dapper?12:13
K|NgGh0sTyeah12:13
deinweird12:13
MadTony71IMHO Storage Media is where I thought to look first, but alas just a floppy icon, not either of the 2 DVD drives, nor the storage volume (hard drive).. is there anything special you need to do to get the extra drive's icons to appear?12:13
imbrandondo you have kubuntu-desktop installed ?12:13
K|NgGh0sThell if I know, I just did apt-get install kde12:14
K|NgGh0sTand I got this12:14
imbrandonMadTony71, type "mount" at a promt and make sure they are listed12:14
KmirnoLynoure: you can call that .. I actually stoped even trying with the ati ... I use gpl non accelerated drivers .. I had a 350 euros(at the time) Graphic ATI card (9700 PRO) I didn't use it's 3D acceleration on linux ... too much pain.. I just bought an 7900 GT and it worked soooo easyily on my kubuntu .. I didn't even have to open a konsole !12:14
imbrandonK|NgGh0sT, no thats not kubuntu propper, do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" there are setting that provides12:14
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LynoureKmirno: all of my tree atis worked fine, 3d and all, with rather little effort  (ok, x600 didn't with breezy, so I went for dapper instead)12:15
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LynoureKmirno: But I have always been lucky :)12:15
uccoffee_loves_Bhi every one12:16
Lynoures/tree/three12:16
KmirnoLynoure: yeah :)12:16
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MadTony71imbrandon: the dvd's are not, the 3 hard drive partitions are.....12:16
alexey__hi !12:16
alexey__I am a SUSE Linux user and want to evaluate Ubuntu/Kubuntu. One question - is there a complete GNOME/KDE Ubuntu DVD?12:16
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tristanMy radeon X700 never had 3D accell12:16
imbrandonalexey__, it comes on one cd, no need for a dvd12:16
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tristanI hope upgrading to dapper will fix that12:16
K|NgGh0sTaha12:17
K|NgGh0sTThere we go12:17
KmirnoLynoure: On the over hand I didn't try 3d on the ATI 9700 PRO for 1 year now ... I guess they might have release better driver in the mean time ...12:17
imbrandonalexey__, http://kubuntu.org/download.php12:17
K|NgGh0sTdein: I knew I wasnt going crazy12:17
MadTony71imbrandon: OK I switched DVD's and it then mounted one, so assuming it just didn't like the DVD's I had in there, but still no hard drive icons12:17
imbrandonhmmm12:17
imbrandonMadTony71, have you rebooted since you updated >12:18
imbrandon?12:18
wordimbrandon: Now I get this error - http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/75097412:19
LynoureKmirno: What's ironic is that I rarely do anything useful 3D stuff on linux... :) I don't even like screensavers12:19
MasterEvilAcetest12:19
MadTony71come to think of it I may not have, I'll give it a shot see what happens, it may have unmounted the volumes for the update12:19
MasterEvilAcehas it been released yet??12:19
ChousukeWhat, dapper? /topic :P12:19
MasterEvilAcethe final version yes12:19
imbrandonMasterEvilAce, type /topic12:19
MadTony71brb, thanks for not laughing at me too much...12:20
l_ris there a dvd iso ready?12:20
MasterEvilAceoh h4x12:20
KmirnoLynoure: well there's blender (ok not that much people use it)12:20
MasterEvilAcei already have dapper so how do i update? do i just dist-upgrade or what12:20
imbrandonyup12:20
l_rwhere?12:20
wordimbrandon: Now I get this error - http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/75097412:20
imbrandonl_r, no dvd iso12:20
l_r:(12:20
imbrandonword, when ?12:20
l_rmeaning that they are not available yet?12:21
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imbrandonl_r, no they are not avaible yet, you know the dvd is just livecd+textmode cd correct? no new packages12:21
wordSame times as I get the other errors when I open up kate or any other app12:21
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imbrandonword, no idae for real now, i've never seen that error12:22
LynoureKmirno: I'm graphically clumsy :)12:22
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imbrandonword, you ONLY removed the tablet input devices ?12:22
threathas it been released yet?12:23
imbrandonthreat, read the topic12:23
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wordimbrandon: I commented out the devices and I commented out the reference to them in the ServerLayout section12:24
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imbrandonhrm12:25
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EvilIdler7MB initrd posted to a bugreport. Yay.12:28
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monadhi... can someone tell me how to add sshd to default runlevel with update-rc.d?12:29
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mindany idea what program to use to open .deb files ?12:32
wordmind: dpkg...12:32
wordin kubuntu you just right click - > Kubuntu package menu - > install12:33
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MadTony71imbrandon: Still didn't create hard drive volume icons, so I just went through nav panel and drug out links to them.. thanks for the input though...12:34
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K|NgGh0sTnow to fix this text issue12:35
DevGetsometimes when I rightclick on a dir on the desktop, my desktop hangs and then vanish, anyone who know how to slove it?12:37
K|NgGh0sTargh12:37
K|NgGh0sTnow I lost my display res completely12:37
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babywhich KDE version on dapper? how can i know it?12:40
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DevGetbaby: 3.5.212:42
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SnakeHmm12:50
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Riddellthanks Snake12:53
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K|NgGh0sTSo who wants to help me get my Display back to 1600x1050?12:54
SnakeRiddell: no problem man :) I got the shipits comin in too, those pressed cds are hott12:55
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SnakeUh oh!12:55
Snakewheres a dapper torrent!?12:55
SnakeLOL12:55
_johannesHeya. I could need some help with installing GNU m4-1.4.412:56
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SnakeFound em12:56
MadTony71where do you get the torrent client?12:57
SnakeMadTony71: if you on windows, use utorrent12:57
SnakeMadTony71: on kubuntu I use ktorrent12:58
MadTony71Snake: ok same site has both?12:58
MadTony71Snake: I didn't see ktorrent on there.. I'll look again..12:58
SnakeMadTony71: no its not the same site12:59
SnakeMadTony71: are you on kubuntu?12:59
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MadTony71Snake: yep, but I don't have the client app for torrents on here yet01:00
SnakeMadTony71: then just open adept and get it (or "sudo apt-get install ktorrent)01:00
Snakeno quotes01:00
_bonhi konqueror trys to open/download ever link i click any ideas?01:01
koshwhat do you want to happen?01:02
_bonlol01:02
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koshwell it seems to me that if I click on a link I except it to open or download based on the content01:02
_bonnot save ever web page to the hard rive01:02
koshso either your problem is different then that or your first description was not quite accurate enough01:02
seaLne_bon: just one website?01:03
koshokay so it is trying to save every page rather then open it for viewing?01:03
_bonevery link01:03
seaLneon different websites?01:03
_bonyeah01:03
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koshjust a sec01:03
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Snakemmmmmmmmmmmmmmm kde401:04
koshsettings -> configure konqueror -> file associations -> text -> html -> embedding  and make sure it says show file in embedded viewing and that the primary preference is khtml01:04
Snakesexeh01:04
koshSnake: long time for that01:05
Snakekosh: I want it.01:05
Snake:)01:05
Snakewhen was kde2 released?? 1998ish?01:05
Snakemeh gotta go :(01:05
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K|NgGh0sTI think i fixxed it01:08
BilfordI recommend adding Settings to your Start Menu01:08
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Bilfordoh, I was scrolled up01:08
Bilfordnm01:09
K|NgGh0sTGaim is still uber gay but wahtever01:09
bachstudiesis it easy to get xgl working on kubuntu?01:09
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kingghosth01:09
_bonyeah cheers works perfect noow01:09
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RogueJediXI have a question. Is there a way to make konqueror open online txt files in itself, while still preserving the offline txt file association with kate?01:11
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kbrooksbachstudies: ?01:13
kbrooksbachstudies: can i talk to you01:13
K|NgGh0sTalright time for bed01:13
kbrooksbachstudies: you should file a bug each time you see one01:14
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kbrooksbachstudies: you were not informative enough01:14
crazy_penguinhi all!01:15
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_bonthis there a way to make the read emails button work kopete useing hotmail account01:16
bachstudieskbrooks: thanks for the advice. I absolutely love the fact that I can get on IRC and have questions answered immediately. Sorry i am completely new to easyubuntu scripts and it just puzzles me that the stable 3.0 release doesn't work but the nightly build does01:16
kbrooksbachstudies: please get to #easyubuntu01:16
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XVampireXdapper is gonna be shipped on DVD?!01:18
piotrekmacd, hi01:18
piotrekmacd, i've now intel c++ compiler installed on my pc :)01:19
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piotrekmacd, bottom of http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17958901:19
kbrooksXVampireX: i believe so.01:20
kbrooksXVampireX: er, no01:20
kbrooksXVampireX: 1 cd01:20
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XVampireXI hope01:21
XVampireXCause I see some DVD torrents...01:21
_bonanyone know an easy setup free pop for hotmail01:21
MasterEvilAceeh i think you'd need thirdparty app01:22
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_bonthere was freepopsd for brezzy but doesnt work for dapper01:23
XVampireXAnd is there going to be a shipit for xubuntu? I'd like to see how xfce4 is01:25
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MasterEvilAceI installed compiz.. i checked the plugins i want.. how do i .. activate them?01:25
_nano_XVampireX: sup01:26
cfraz89MasterEvilAce: install gset-compiz01:26
XVampireX_nano_: Fine :)01:26
MasterEvilAcecfaz: I did :P01:26
_nano_!dapper01:27
ubotuDAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html01:27
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cfraz89MasterEvilAce: you just tick off the plugins you want and press apply01:27
MasterEvilAcecfraz89: is there an apply button?01:28
MasterEvilAceI don't see apply button. but i exited and reopened and it still has all my stuff active.. i see no difference in anything though01:28
_nano_would turning off prelink.bin be catastrophic or anything?01:28
_nano_it takes up a lot of resources ..and runs everynight :|01:29
cfraz89MasterEvilAce: no, it works on gconf01:29
cfraz89so as soon as you tick it it loads01:29
RiddellXVampireX: as always we have a DVD available (which is still syncing to the mirrors)01:30
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_nano_Riddell: synaptic doesn't show any upgradable packages ?01:31
kbrooksdappling the er: DAPPER01:31
cfraz89oh wow kde 3.5.3 is released01:32
cfraz89looks good01:32
babywhen i try to configure any file it gives an error like "C Compiler cannot create executables" how can i fix it?01:32
Riddell_nano_: change your sources to dapper01:32
_nano_Riddell: i'm on dapper rc01:33
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Riddell_nano_: then do an update01:33
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XVampireXRiddel: The DVD is for ubuntu/kubuntu and edubuntu all together?01:33
kbrooksdappling the er: DAPPER01:34
kbrooksXVampireX: no. at least, i don't think so01:34
XVampireXSo why would anyone need a DVD? :P01:35
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XVampireXkbrooks: It looks like it is ubuntu/kubuntu/edubuntu from what demonoid torrent says01:36
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babycan anybody help me? i cannot compile any file i mean write configure on the console it gives a c compiler cannot create executables error01:37
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Riddellbaby: install build-essential01:38
babywith apt get?01:38
imbrandonbaby yes01:39
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imbrandonXVampireX, then its not the official dvd, the offical dvd is just the livecd+text installcd01:40
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Bilfordthey should remove the DVD01:41
Bilfordmost people will probably download it01:41
cfraz89the world is now a better place01:41
Bilfordthe world has had an upgrade01:41
cfraz89kbuntu dapper and  kde 3.5.3 in one day...01:41
cfraz89what more could i ask for?01:42
kbrookscfraz89: :-)01:42
cfraz89:)01:42
XVampireXimbrandon: Well maybe it is, the description is kinda vague to tell you the truth, but the file size kinda speaks for it: 3.14GB01:42
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Bilfordlol01:42
BilfordChatty Chilford01:42
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_nano_haha01:43
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babyimbradon: i installed build-essential but now i get a Can't find X includes error how can i fix it too?01:44
Hobbsee!xincludes01:45
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev01:45
babyubotu: ok then i'll install them01:46
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, baby01:46
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cfraz89lol baby01:46
_nano_rofl01:47
_nano_baby's in cloud number nine ;)01:47
cfraz89!porn01:47
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, cfraz8901:47
cfraz89lol hahah01:47
_nano_!bad01:47
ubotu_nano_: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:47
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_nano_!canonical01:48
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _nano_01:48
_nano_what?01:48
cfraz89!ubuntu01:48
pmis desktop cd another name for live cd? which iso i should choose for an ordinary installation?01:48
uboturumour has it, ubuntu is a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth01:48
Hobbsee!botabuse01:48
ubotuYou can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.01:48
cfraz89lol01:48
cfraz89oh sorry01:49
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_nano_oops :P01:49
_nano_hi Hobbsee01:49
Hobbseehi _nano_01:49
_nano_upgraded? :)01:50
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cfraz89i was dissapointed by the release01:53
cfraz89i had no updates :(01:53
cfraz89i updated this morning01:53
cfraz89but when kde 3.5.3 is finished i will be excited agian01:54
kbrookscfraz89: you're on ubuntu01:54
cfraz89yep01:54
cfraz89kubuntu01:54
scheuricfraz89: of course it had no updates...it is not meant to do lots of updates between RC and finale01:54
cfraz89yeah, still dissapointing though01:54
cfraz89i wanted at least one01:54
cfraz89to feel special01:54
kbrookscfraz89: lol why01:54
Hobbseecfraz89: kde 3.5.3 is out01:54
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cfraz89so i could feel the upgrade01:55
cfraz89Hobbsee: yeah, im downloading it now01:55
cfraz8918%01:55
cfraz89kbrooks: it never came to me as a rush01:55
cfraz89my computer became dapper slowly01:55
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cfraz89i wanted to say at one point, yay i have upgraded to dapper final01:56
cfraz89but now i realise i missed that moment01:56
chakie_workhm, is it time to start updating and checking if the system boots anymore?01:56
cfraz89because it was this morning01:56
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kbrookscfraz89: you are ON dapper already01:57
chakie_workanyone managed to do an update?01:57
kbrookscfraz89: i updated yesterdaty, lots and lots of them01:57
babyok i solved that problem but now it gives a Qt (>= Qt 3.2) error. do i have to download Qtl-dev packages01:57
baby?01:57
Riddellbaby: what are you compiling?01:58
cfraz89kbrooks: yeah, but i never realised it until it was too late01:58
babyRiddell it's a theme for KDE01:58
Riddellbaby: apt-get build-dep kdebase   will bring in all you need01:59
babyRiddel: ok01:59
cfraz89Riddell: thats tricky02:00
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cfraz89i didnt know about build-dep02:01
Sho_Does anybody know if 6.06 ships the bcm43xx driver?02:01
Riddell/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko is there02:01
Sho_lovely02:01
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pmi'm using dapper beta, should i upgrade via apt-get upgrade or is it advisiable to install the final release anew?02:04
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KadranSho_: how did you updated konversation?02:05
imbrandonpm sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is fine02:05
Sho_Kadran: I'm one of the Konversation developers and presently using the development version. We have a nice Wiki page full of info on how to get ahold of that: http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/SVN02:05
koshpm: if you installed from a prerelease version of dapper you just have to do apt-get dist-upgrade to get the final version02:05
Hobbseehi Sho_02:06
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Sho_hiya Hobbsee02:06
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imbrandonheh02:06
pmkosh: i installed from flight 702:06
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Hobbseepm: yes, still dist-upgrade02:06
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koshpm: so just do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:06
Hobbseepm: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:06
Sho_Hobbsee: hehe :) No, I was just asking the guys a question about the driver support in 6.0602:06
KadranSho_: i see some lines with * nickname and some blue lines , and don't know what is it?02:06
imbrandonSho_, you probbly have that set to an alias ;)02:07
Sho_Hobbsee: Going to put that on my iBook later tonight02:07
HobbseeSho_: ah :P  fun02:07
pmand won't there be any problems if i upgrade via apt-get upgrade02:07
koshapt-get dist-upgrade02:07
koshnot upgrade02:07
koshand no there won't be any problems02:07
HobbseeSho_: so should we look forward to new features in edgy, for konversation?  when do you recommend grabbing the svn copy, and sticking it into the repos?  or will there be some form of release there?02:07
koshheck I updated from debian sid to breez to dapper without a reinstall and that debian box has been running debian for 5 years before that02:07
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koshI have not done a reinstall of linux in a long time02:08
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imbrandonheh i need one of those and a common sense too02:08
Hobbseethanks kosh02:09
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Kadranhey guys, any one using konversation tell me what are these blue lines for?02:09
Sho_Hobbsee: We're eventually going to publish a new release, hopefully in time for edgy's Upstream Version Freeze. Has a date been set for that02:09
HobbseeKadran: er, blue lines?  like /me?02:09
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Sho_+?02:09
imbrandonKadran, they are "actions"02:09
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HobbseeSho_: cool, looking forward to seeing the new features :)02:09
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Kadranyes like this02:10
HobbseeSho_: i dont believe so yet, but the development time is 4 months, IIRC02:10
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imbrandonKadran, type /me somthing02:10
imbrandonyea02:10
Kadran:), thanks02:10
=== Kadran and what it is used for?
koshemotes02:11
imbrandonKadran, its an action , or emote02:11
Sho_Hobbsee: Well then let's hope we can put 0.20 (which will probably the last KDE 3.x release) into Edgy :)02:11
imbrandonlike .....02:11
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imbrandonor something02:11
HobbseeSho_: yay!  how close is that, from your end?02:11
Kadranimbrandon: thanks02:12
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Hobbseekosh: careful about that...dont burn down too much...02:12
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imbrandonheya goldenear02:12
psb154I can mount an smb volume using cifs from a fedora install but not from a kbuntu install. The message is: is write-protected, mounting read-only02:12
koshHobbsee: so such thing as burning down too much :)02:12
goldenearhi imbrandon02:12
Hobbseehehe!02:12
Sho_Hobbsee: I can't really put any dates on it because we're a very very small team of people perpetually busy with other stuff, so development is on and off. I know my to-do for 0.20 still has a quite a few items on it.02:12
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HobbseeSho_: okay, cool :)02:13
Sho_Hobbsee: But if we have four months from Kubuntu's side, that should work out ..02:13
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Sho_Hobbsee: Well, you know my feelings about distros packaging SVN snapshots ;-)02:15
pmwhat time did the isos appear on the servers? (it's 14.15 right now for me)02:15
HobbseeSho_: yes, i know :) - that's why i was asking if there was a particular stable time that we could do it, rather than not asking, and finding out the bugs ourselves :P02:15
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bachstudiesdoes anyone know how to join a windows workgroup in kubuntu 6.06?02:17
MasterEvilAceuse samba02:18
Sho_Hobbsee: Perhaps we can set up some sort of "ready for wide-spread testing" milestone at some point, we'll see02:18
bobesponjabachstudies: smb:/workgroup in konqueror02:18
HobbseeSho_: that'd be cool :)02:18
Hobbseethat's the sort of thing i was thinking of02:18
bachstudiesis there a GUI for kubuntu's samba settings? I seem to remember that in other distros KDE had its own settings window02:18
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AbecearianI'm sure y'all are overwhelmed w/ Dapper out, but I thought I'd drop a quick suggestion: On the Download page your DVD link goes to http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/breezy/release/dvd/ ; the link for Dapper's DVD is actually http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release/dvd/02:19
MasterEvilAceI think i heard a samba config thing comes in KDE's network package.. i think that's installed by default.. it's in kcontrol02:19
MasterEvilAcecalled samba something02:19
Sho_Hobbsee: Can't promise anything, though - if it doesn't happen by itself I don't want developers to have to worry about what they put in SVN because $distro might decide to run with it ;)02:19
HobbseeSho_: of course.02:19
AbecearianIt is also worth noting that the Ubuntu Dapper DVD is even harder to find, so you already are ahead of the game as is!02:19
AbecearianGood luck!02:20
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pmapt-get dist-upgrade says that there are no packages that need upograding02:20
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bachstudiesMasterEvilAce: i've managed to open it in a terminal but there's no icon for it on the kubuntu menus02:20
MasterEvilAcepm: run apt-get update first02:20
pmdoes it mean i had official yesterday?02:21
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MasterEvilAcebachstudies: kcontrol? yeah there is no icon. i got to it by going to terminal as well02:21
MasterEvilAcebachstudies: I've seen the samba config in kcontrol somewhere. should be able to just type samba at the top and it'll be there02:21
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bachstudiesMasterEvilAce: the samba section doesn't want to open....just says 'opening...' and doesn't!02:22
MasterEvilAcebachstudies: I think that happened a few times for me.. i'm not sure why. Just close and try to reopen it again02:22
Hobbseepm: yeah.02:22
bachstudiesMasterEvilAce: thanks02:22
Hobbseesorta. mostly.   yes.02:22
pmMasterEvilAce, i've been using ubuntu for a year, i know that upgrade apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade) must be preceded by apt-get update02:22
MasterEvilAcepm: just covering the bases :)02:23
Hobbseepm: that's correct02:23
imbrandon[07:21]  <pm> does it mean i had official yesterday? <--- probbly02:23
bachstudiesMasterEvilAce: no luck...it comes up a greyed-out box and when i hit adminstrator mode it just saying opening02:23
imbrandondepending on the time you did the updates02:23
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MasterEvilAcebachstudies: i'm not sure. I do remember it was very iffy on my computer as well. Try accessing admin mode in a different section, then going back to the samba one. I would try to help figure it out on my side, but i'm trying ot get some stuff working and linux isn't boot atm :)02:24
bachstudiesMasterEvilAce: just got round it by typing sudo kcontrol in terminal!02:24
MasterEvilAcebachstudies: lol!02:25
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pmwill kubuntu shipit have both alternate and desktop (or even server) cds?02:28
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cfraz89has anyone managed to upgrade to kde 3.5.3?02:30
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Hobbseecfraz89: yeah02:31
Hobbsee!kde3.5.302:31
ubotuHobbsee: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:31
Hobbsee!kde3.5.202:31
ubotu[kde3.5.2]  to upgrade to KDE3.5.2, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".02:31
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cfraz89it doesnt like installing kdelibs-data02:31
Hobbseemm...modifying that...02:31
cfraz89ohhhhh i see02:31
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cfraz89its overlapping my ktorrent package02:31
Kadrancfraz89: it is faster02:31
cfraz89lots faster?02:31
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Hobbsee!kde3.5.302:32
ubotukde3.5.3 is, like, to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".02:32
Hobbseecfraz89: there you go02:32
cfraz89lol thanks02:32
cfraz89worked it out, its because i force installed ktorrent2.0 beta02:33
cfraz89now its coming back to haunt me02:33
Hobbseecfraz89: that'll create problems, yes02:35
cfraz89lol now i cant remove it either02:35
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_bonubuntu fourms gone down02:35
_bon?02:35
cfraz89how to force remove a package?02:36
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cfraz89ignoring deps?02:37
mchasardHi i just saw kubuntu 6.06 out02:37
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mchasardCan we use it as live cd ?02:37
mchasardCause on distrowatch its desktop version 6.06 lts02:38
cfraz89i think ive messed up badly02:38
cfraz89kde-libs data wont install because it will overwrite a file02:39
mchasardHum so can i use it as live cd ...02:39
cfraz89it wont even force install02:39
cfraz89it says dpkg was killed by signal02:39
Hobbseecfraz89: sudo apt-get remove packagename02:39
cfraz89no bad02:39
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cfraz89it wants to take down all of kde + more02:39
cfraz89how can i remove it without removing everything else?02:40
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Hobbseeyou can use sudo apt-get --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/nameofdeb.deb  i think02:40
_boncraz89: http://biostat.mc.vanderbilt.edu/twiki/bin/view/Main/DependFixDebian02:40
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empimchasard, I think its also a live cd02:40
_boni had the same problem02:40
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pmi oredered 5 cds of kubuntu 6.0.6 a few days ago but i didn't get any confirmation (either via email or on webpage), is it normal?02:41
pmkubuntu 6.06* of course02:41
empimchasard, to quote the kubuntu site: "The desktop CD allows you to try Kubuntu without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later."02:42
cfraz89Hobbsee: i tried using dpkg --force-overwrite02:42
cfraz89but it dies for some reason02:42
Hobbseecfraz89: ah, is that it.  define "some reason" and pastebin what you got02:42
cfraz89i really dont know why02:42
cfraz89dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.3-0ubuntu0.1_all.deb (--unpack):02:42
cfraz89 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package ktorrent02:42
cfraz89dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)02:42
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cfraz89ooh got it02:43
cfraz89i guess the order is important02:43
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empicongrats02:43
empi=)02:43
cfraz89thanks Hobbsee02:44
pekayhey is upgrading to KDE 3.5.3 safe or risky?02:44
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cfraz89empi: lol thanks02:45
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cfraz89pekay: is safe02:45
Kadranis KOOL02:45
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mchasardSo please the new iso is can be used as live cd ?02:45
Kadranthe Desktop CD02:46
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mchasardYes its called desktop02:46
empimchasard, YES02:46
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mchasardOk thanks i can goes on to download it02:47
empimchasard,  http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/dapper/02:47
zuidHave I joined in the middle of a "Why the hell did the upgrade just delete my desktop?" conversation?  If not, I'd quite like to start it..02:47
aftertaflol02:47
aftertafhey mom, i'm on stable dapper :] 02:47
mchasardIts the release version ?02:48
MasterEvilAceaftertaf: congrats! now do your homework!!!02:48
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aftertafhomework? :] 02:48
Kadranaftertaf: happy new half-year02:48
aftertafive been on a stable enough dapper for 3 months now :)02:48
zuidDoes anybody have any idea what this is all about?  There are month-old bugs registered for this problem but it's still happening in today's 'stable' release?02:48
empilol Kadran02:48
Hobbseepekay: seems okay02:48
Hobbseezuid: which problem?02:49
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cfraz89i have a persistent bug in dapper too02:49
aftertafzuid, what is the actual problem? error messages & such02:49
zuidThat dist-upgrade deletes all KDE packages.02:49
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aftertafzuid, whats your sources.list like?02:49
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zuidhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/3965802:49
zuidIt's untouched from 5.10 default except for adding 'universe'.02:49
aftertafzuid, you upping from breezy?02:49
zuidYep.02:49
aftertafzuid, add the kde-353 line and get new kde too.02:50
aftertafdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353/ dapper main02:50
Kadranzuid !kde-3.5.302:50
Kadran!kde-3.5.302:50
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kadran02:50
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aftertafcfraz89, what bug is that?02:50
zuidIs there anybody in here capable of adding a fairly prominent notice to the "Upgrade your Kubuntu in 5 easy steps!" web page?  This is a pretty major problem ...02:50
Kadran!kde3.5.302:51
uboturumour has it, kde3.5.3 is to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".02:51
empi!kde3.5.302:51
empihmpf02:51
zuidaftertaf - Thanks very much.02:51
aftertafzuid, :)02:51
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cfraz89aftertaf: printing to some canon pixmas stops about 2 pages into the jon02:51
cfraz89*job02:51
aftertafzuid, they havent made it to ubuntu dapper repos yet i guess02:51
aftertafcfraz89, ah. not with printer as i am, cant help02:52
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_boni am quit inpressed with the install much better than upgradeing any other linu distro02:52
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MasterEvilAcerumor has it kde3.5.3 is an upgrade to KDE 3.5.3? wtf?02:53
XVampireXlol02:53
root_hello i cannot find anything about how to install nvidia drivers on kubuntu dapper, can anybody help me? thx02:53
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Kadranroot_02:53
Kadran!nvidia02:53
ubotuHelp about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia02:53
DaveQBdid anyone have trouble with Enlightment-data package when doing a dist-upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 ?02:53
cfraz89aftertaf: its ok02:53
XVampireXroot_: What nvidia card?02:53
klerfaythow to get rid of gam_server or is it needed for something important?02:53
cfraz89thanks anyway02:53
XVampireXYeah, lol02:53
HobbseeMasterEvilAce: no, to upgrade to kde3.5.3...02:54
XVampireXThat's easier02:54
aftertafDaveQB, im on cvs.02:54
root_GeForce5600xt02:54
MasterEvilAceoh ok (bad wording) but okay02:54
DaveQBI have found the new Nvidia .run installers work flawlessly02:54
root_the standard sudo nvidia_glx enable is not working02:54
scheuriQuestion about Konquerorsettings: How to make View Mode -Detailed List View permanent?02:54
DaveQBaftertaf: of Enlightment ?02:54
XVampireXMasterEvilAce: Even funnier is when I thought that I was already using 3.5.3 even though I was using 3.5.202:54
WillyTPuff sadly still no kde 3.5.3 for amd6402:54
aftertafDaveQB, e17 yeah02:54
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Kadranroot_ did you restarted the X?02:55
aftertafWillyTP, sure about that?02:55
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Cristianoyep Kadran02:55
Cristianoit doesnt work02:55
aftertafscheuri, save the profile to standard filemanager profile02:55
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DaveQBaftertaf: more just I mean an error whilst doing a dist-upgrade. another has just halted me again02:55
DaveQBdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ofx_1%3a0.8.0-10_i386.deb (--unpack):02:55
DaveQB trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/ofx2qif', which is also in package libofx202:55
DaveQBErrors were encountered while processing:02:55
WillyTPaftertaf, yes02:55
WillyTPit's written on kubuntu page02:55
aftertafDaveQB, use dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/ofx_1%3a0.8.0-10_i386.deb02:56
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ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pekay02:56
scheuriaftertaf: seems to work...thousand thanks02:56
aftertaf533 lol02:56
DaveQBaftertaf:  cheers, i'll try that02:56
pekayaff xd02:56
aftertafscheuri, :)02:56
aftertafDaveQB, :)02:56
LeeJunFanmust be popular today, can't download from us sites. damn timeouts.02:56
DaveQBa similiar error happened previoously with the enlightment-data package, I just unchecked it and tried again02:57
Hobbsee!info kdelibs02:57
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ubotukdelibs: (core libraries from the official KDE release), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 29 kB, Installed size: 72 kB02:57
aftertafDaveQB, e16?02:57
Cristianoi found some time ago a guide telling to modify xorg.conf and to create a file named NvidiaSettings or something like that, do u remember where to find it?02:57
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babywhere is icon folder on Linux?02:57
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aftertafbaby, /usr/share/icons02:57
MasterEvilAceI understand how to do the XGL stuff.. but is there a way to make sure it's working?02:57
KadranCristiano: strange it has worked with me , try running nvidia-settings02:57
MasterEvilAceand active02:58
DaveQBaftertaf: not sure to be honest, I hardly use it, just wanted a light alternative, its whatever ya get on 5.10 per default02:58
babyaftertaf: thanks02:58
CristianoKadran what did u do?02:58
aftertafDaveQB, try e17, you'll be blown away. i have an autoconfig script if you want ;)02:58
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Cristianoi use the command "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and it gave me an error02:58
DaveQBaftertaf:  yeah I have heard it is nice02:58
DaveQBbinary config files though huh ??02:58
DaveQBaftertaf:  a sequence of errors with the overwite command you just gave me :(02:59
Silensiusdoes anyone help me to configure my sourceslist for dapper for have acces to all debian packages02:59
aftertafhehe, not all are binary. just the icons.02:59
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aftertafDaveQB, sudo?02:59
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WillyTPjust a curiosity... with the default install, what does DVD version has more?02:59
aftertafSilensius, change all breezy to dapper.02:59
KadranCristiano:what is the error?02:59
Silensiusi have just install the last dapper02:59
aftertafWillyTP, not sure, maybe has more available packages...03:00
DaveQBaftertaf: more like a circular dependacy, maybe03:00
aftertafDaveQB, paste me it.03:00
CristianoKadran,03:00
CristianoError: your X configuration has been altered.03:00
Silensiuswhen i do apt-get install grip   it says i coundt find packages03:00
CristianoThis script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this03:00
Cristianonot correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following03:00
Cristianocommand:03:00
Cristianomd5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum03:00
Cristianootherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section03:00
Cristianofrom nv to nvidia.03:00
aftertafSilensius, sudo apt-get update?03:01
aftertafSilensius,  and apt-cache search grip03:01
Silensiuso i try03:01
DaveQBaftertaf: oh i havent logged onto freenode... cant PM yet03:01
aftertafthen paste to #aftertaf03:02
KadranCristiano: did you tried this ? 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum'03:02
Silensiusaftertaf nothing03:02
Cristianoyep it broke everything03:02
bachstudieshaving huge difficulties getting xp to see my kubuntu folder and print shares. in XP i can see my kubuntu machine but it won't let me access anything and my printer is not detected03:02
aftertaf!info grip03:02
ubotugrip: (GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 3.3.1-2ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 444 kB, Installed size: 1276 kB03:02
Kadranaftertaf: use pastebin03:02
aftertaftrue Kadran there is that too :)03:03
CristianoKadran: i was looking for the guide i used to configure the drivers, the only guide that worked to me, but no luck at all!03:03
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KadranCristiano: ok , when i installed the nvidia-glx it told me that if it didn't work use the legacy one so i hope it works for you03:04
MasterEvilAcebachstudies: yeah I had the same problem. i fixed it in a sort of decent way, i guess03:04
Kadranhowever your card can't be legacy03:04
Cristianook i try03:04
bachstudiesMasterEvilAce: how?03:05
KadranCristiano: ok and tell me if any progress03:05
KadranCristiano: and good luck03:05
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CristianoKadran lol thx :D03:06
Silensiusubotu : must i add brezzy iin sourceslist03:06
ubotuSilensius: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:06
Silensiusok03:06
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MasterEvilAcebachstudies: gimmie a second. let me look at my settings.. kubuntu is updating stuff so it's a bit slow03:06
zuidThis is nuts .. in trying to upgrade KDE, it for some reason seems to think that none of my existing KDE apps will work with the new version .. therefore wants to remove them all.  Wanting to upgrade everything also has the same effect.03:06
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aftertafDaveQB, paste it to pastebin and we can all hep out ;)03:07
DaveQBaftertaf:  dward.us/apt.txt03:07
nomad411I only find CDs, isn't the new release available on DVD ISOs ?03:07
zuiddoing a dist-upgrade doesn't even consider upgrading, it just wants to remove everything (despite adept claiming they are all 'upgradable') ..   Do I have to switch all my repositories back to breezy, upgrade kde, then switch back to dapper, and upgrade it all again?03:08
aftertafzuid, nope.03:08
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aftertafyou are on breezy qnd kde 3.5.2 right now?03:08
DaveQBaftertaf:  me ?03:08
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zuidI don't know about qnd, but it's breezy with 3.5.2, yeah.03:09
zuidNo, wait.. 3.5.1.03:09
zuidSorry.03:09
aftertafand :)03:09
jh99is it correct that breez badger installations can be updated to dapper without too much trouble? (except for hte possible bug in the wiki kubuntu-desktop package ..)03:09
Hobbseezuid: the work aroundafter getting adept to upgrade, should be sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:09
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psb154 http://ca.samba.org/samba/ftp/cifs-cvs/mount.cifs03:09
psb154sorry03:09
aftertafhey this is linux, bits of string are needed to hold it together sometimes :)03:09
zuidI saw that "workaround" .. the problem is that the package 'kubuntu-desktop' isn't even available according to apt.03:10
aftertaf(as opposed to ALL the time with other OSs) :)03:10
Hobbseezuid: er....03:10
zuidSince changing my repositories to dapper, kubuntu-desktop has disappeared as an option.03:10
Hobbseeit's here...03:10
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aftertafzuid, did you add the 353 line too?03:10
DexterFhi03:10
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zuid(I am aware that this sounds crazy in three flavours)03:10
jh99does the kubuntu-desktop package bug happen on ALL upgrades from BB to Dapper?03:10
psb154kubuntu does not seem to install mount.cifs. This causes some mysterious samba read-only problems.03:10
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zuidaftertaf - Yep.  It updated those happily, claims that all kde-related packages are 'upgradable', but wants to remove them rather than upgrading.03:11
DexterFjust upgraded to 6.06, get to login screen, but after login kde won't start and I fall back to login03:11
jh99can i update BB to Dapper just by changing the repositories of do i need a CD? is it the same thing?03:11
bachstudiesMasterEvilAce: it is blocking my messages to you seeing as i am an unregistered user03:11
DexterFideas where to look? Xorg log seems ok03:11
CristianoKadran: nothing to do even with legacy :(03:11
aftertafDexterF, rm ~/.ICEauthority03:11
MasterEvilAcebachstudies: :(  okay, well you can get into kcontrol and samba config right?03:11
bachstudiesMasterEvilAce: yep03:12
piotrekjoin #princed03:12
zuidDexterF - If you upgraded by following the instructions on kubuntu's website then your problem is probably a distinct lack of KDE.03:12
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aftertaflooolzuid03:12
jh99zuid, which directions are that?03:12
jh99zuid, ..instructions i mean03:12
babyi cannot copy paste to /usr/share/icon dir..How can i do it?03:12
zuidThe ones that don't mention you should check what adept plans to do before rebooting. :)03:13
DexterFaftertaf: didnt help03:13
DexterFzuid: well, aptitude upgrade03:13
james_xxxis the kubuntu website down?03:13
james_xxxor just overloaded03:13
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aftertafDexterF, try sudo aptitude install adept, see if it drags some kde goodness in.03:14
MasterEvilAcebachstudies: okay under [base]  tab.. make sure workgroup is correct. set security level to "Share".  under [Shares]  tab add whatever folder you want shared (or edit one) and make sure Public/Browseable/ and Available are CHECKED.   If you need XP to be able to write to it, under [USERS]  I had to force user and force group to my user/group at the bottom   For your printer, the printer tab should be setup the same way (altho03:14
bachstudiesoh ok03:14
MasterEvilAcehope that helps03:14
empiand set file permissions correctly03:14
bachstudiesMasterEvilAce: is the printer a bit more tricky?03:15
empithat bugered me last time03:15
MasterEvilAcebachstudies: I'm not sure. I don't have a computer connected to my linux system.. i assume it would be similar03:15
MasterEvilAcebachstudies: editing a printer, it has similar share options (the check boxes) trial and error maybe should work03:15
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bachstudiesMasterEvilAce: ok thanks03:16
goldenearwhy, when I do sudo apt-get remove libgtk2.0-common, apt-get says that amarok (amarok-xine) will be removed ?03:16
aftertafcos its a dependency? :)03:16
jh99my question again: can i update a breezy badger to dapper just by changing repositories?03:17
MasterEvilAceOh speaking of dependencies.. how come when i try to INSTALL nvidia-settings (i think it is), it wants to remove nvidia-glx?03:17
aftertafjh99, 'normally' yeah03:17
MasterEvilAcejh99: yeah, then run apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade03:17
jh99k03:17
goldenearjh99: normally yes03:17
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jh99repository lists / names are easy to find on kubuntu org?03:18
goldenearbut it seems to have a bug with it03:18
GnarusLeoHi, I have the Kubuntu Breezy, how would I go approach to upgrade to dapper?03:18
GnarusLeostill want my kde and all03:18
aftertaflol03:18
DevGetanyone that has got audacity work in KDE?03:18
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MasterEvilAceDevGet: it loads for me in KDE just fine03:18
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DevGetyes, it loads, but it can't record anything for me03:19
MasterEvilAcehm03:19
bachstudiesMasterEvilAce: could i just ask what you have your samba printer path set to?03:20
MasterEvilAceDevGet: yes doesn't work here either.. weird03:20
keHow long is the shipit under way?03:20
DexterFaftertaf: no go. installed new adept and apt-install-data, but that's it. kde is there alright.03:20
DevGetand when I try:03:20
DevGetgustav@tux:~$ artsdsp audacity03:20
DevGetSegmentation fault03:20
DexterFmust be something during kde startup as X comes up alright, but what? where?03:21
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DexterFwhere does kde log?03:21
aftertafdexter, try dpkg -l |grep kde.... to make sure03:21
MasterEvilAcebachstudies: don't have a printer installed.. the default "printers" comment "All Printers" path is set to /tmp  and is "available" but not "browseable" or "public"03:21
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jh99thx guys03:22
bachstudiesMasterEvilAce: oh ok thanks03:22
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aseigo_lsbDexterF: you mean arts? it doesn't use kde's logging an any form... kde apps, however, have their logging controlled via `kdebugdialog --fullmode`03:22
jh99lets see how far repository changes bring me ...03:22
jh99any no-nos while dist upgrading?03:22
MasterEvilAcejh99: try not to spill water on your keyboard03:22
h3sp4wnGnarusLeo: Go into adept Manage Repositories and change "breezy" to "dapper" Click "Fetch Updates" Click "Full Upgrade" Click "Commit"03:22
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jh99:) any other helpful tips MasterEvilAce ?03:22
GnarusLeok, thanks03:23
MasterEvilAcejh99: nah, everything should theoretically go just fine03:23
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jh99thx, later .03:23
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zuidBEFORE you hit commit, check Preview Changes!  If you have a list full of "Remove" entries then don't commit!03:23
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aftertafcy all later. good luck zuid :] 03:24
DexterFaseigo_lsb: arts? huh? no, kdeinit03:24
Mark_hey i have a serious problem with install kubuntu03:24
h3sp4wnzuid: You would expect things to be removed03:24
DexterFaftertaf: kde packages are in place03:24
zuidYEah a couple of things, but not 199 packages.03:24
Mark_i simply cannot start the installation program, because during boot there is a problems with the cdrom03:24
zuid(All of which are kde-related)03:24
DaveQBhow does Adept handle if a config files changes ?? Does it show you the diff with a GUI frontend ?03:24
Mark_i get error like bad block03:25
pekay14% lol this update is slow, anyone got it slow?03:25
Mark_anyone?? had rpoblems with booting the cd (desktop 6.06)?03:25
aseigo_lsbDexterF: kdeinit isn't the actual app03:25
DexterFaww.. I once experimente4d with Xgl packages. maybe kwin chokes on that?03:25
aseigo_lsbDexterF: kdeinit is simply an "execute wrapper" that helps speed up start up times (it's a cute hack =) ... look after the 'kdeinit' line to see what is actually being run03:26
DexterFaseigo_lsb: well, kdeinit, startkde, kde-session, I don't mind, what I wanna know is: where are kde logfiles that document what happens during kde start?03:26
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DaveQBwebsite must be coping a pinding 100x slower then it was today lol03:27
robin_I really wonder how many tests has been done on the installer :(03:27
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robin_it's just crash..03:27
DaveQBrobin_: liveCD or alternative ?03:27
DexterFhow do I launch an X with an xterm from tty?03:28
robin_desktop version03:28
robin_DaveQB: desktop.03:28
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DaveQBrobin_:  oic03:28
BilfordUbuntu on Slashdot03:28
thoreauputicBilford: stand by to watch the Ubuntu servers melt...03:29
robin_DaveQB: it crashes on the DHCP  part so it seems, I don't have network.03:29
Bilfordthey should make people use torrents03:29
bobesponjais the torrent tracker dead?03:29
thoreauputicBilford: we are encouraging that of course03:30
DaveQBrobin_:  oh, I have never tried, but I will be on my laptop.03:30
Mark_i simply cannot start the installation program, because during boot there is a problems with the cdrom. i get error like bad block. anyone?? had rpoblems with booting the cd (desktop 6.06)?03:30
DaveQBWhere are the torrent links ? I cant see them03:30
thoreauputicDaveQB: /topic03:30
babyhow can i add new icons to kubuntu. i downloaded a new icon pack and there r folders like 128x128 48x48 also there is a index.desktop so i created a folder in /usr/share/icon and coppied them in it but i cant see those icons on KDE customize?03:30
DaveQBcheers03:30
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robin_the release candidate also crashed..03:30
robin_I was hoping to isntll kubuntu, but now I'm stuck to breezy I guess.03:31
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thoreauputicDaveQB: hmm - actually sorry I don't see a Kubuntu torrent in the topic03:31
DexterFgonna reinstall kde.. se what happens. if all else fails, fresh install03:31
thoreauputicDaveQB: ubuntu torrent is in the #ubuntu topic though03:31
Bilfordyou can do a lot more with LInux than you can with Windows03:31
DaveQBthoreauputic: I am chasing some links from the ubuntu site, we'll see, slow though heheheh03:31
Mark_i simply cannot start the installation program, because during boot there is a problems with the cdrom. i get error like bad block. anyone?? had rpoblems with booting the cd (desktop 6.06)?03:32
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BilfordI set it up so when I double-click a rm file, it automatically decodes it to wav03:32
robin_I just downloaded the iso from the main site with 750kb/s much faster than the torrents..03:32
DaveQBMark_:  havent even got it yet :)03:32
Mark_DaveQB, okay thx anyway03:32
Hobbseethoreauputic: the correct kubuntu torrent is now listed on kubuntu.org, i think03:32
BilfordI think KDE should be the default Ubuntu Window03:33
DaveQBthoreauputic:  heres the Tawain link to torrents and iso's http://apt.nc.hcc.edu.tw/pub/ubuntu-cd/kubuntu/6.06/03:33
psb1541060 nicks on ubuntu :-)03:33
DaveQBBilford:  me to :)03:33
kkathmanhey Hobbsee :)  how goes it?03:33
BilfordI think the average Windows user would find KDE more freindly03:33
Hobbseehi kkathman03:33
Hobbseeit goes.  mostly.03:33
Bilfordmore eye candy for KDE03:33
kkathmanbetter than not I suppose... going that is03:33
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MasterEvilAcehow do i make a new file with NANO?03:34
alepetruccihi, anyone know if there are probles upgrading to dapper directly form dapper beta?03:34
dr_willisalepetrucci:  thers always potentials for probpems03:34
dr_willisbut ive not heard of many03:34
alepetrucciso a fresh install is recomended?03:34
dr_willisand ive not experienecd any03:34
kkathmanalepetrucci:  if you've kept up with the updates, you should be fine03:35
imbrandonMasterEvilAce, just type "nano newfilenamehere.txt" and when you save it will create a new file03:35
dr_willisif you dont have a highly tweaked/or weird system. it may be easier to reinstall03:35
alepetruccishall i cahnege repositories?03:35
kkathmanno need to update at all03:35
kkathmani.e. reinstall fresh03:35
MasterEvilAceimbrandon: that's what i've been trying.. but it says it cannot save because the file doesn't exist??03:35
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DaveQBkubuntu desktop torrent is a go !! :)03:35
MasterEvilAcealepetrucci: shouldn't even have to change repo's.. just apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade and you shuold get the new stuff i believe03:35
DaveQB2 hours to go on Torrent03:35
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h3sp4wnHow do you change debconf so it asks more questions ? (instead of just doing everything automatically) I have done it before just can't remember03:36
alepetrucciok thx ill give a try...if something goes wrong illreinstall it...03:36
imbrandonh3sp4wn, -plow ?03:36
DaveQBthis is weird how dist-upgrade re-installs the same KDE I had before03:36
dr_willisits often handy to have your /home on a spare hard drive :P or partition03:36
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DaveQBmust have a different "tweak" to it03:36
imbrandonDaveQB, you need to change your repos to dapper03:37
DaveQBdr_willis:  for sure.  People DONT do that ??03:37
h3sp4wnimbrandom: It was a permenant setting (you know like on debian where it asks you about most stuff)03:37
alepetruccidist-update says i dont have any packet do download  :|03:37
HobbseeDaveQB: yeah, built on totally different libs.03:37
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DaveQBimbrandon: ummm I did, 900+ packages to upgrade03:37
imbrandonsounds about right03:37
dr_willisDaveQB:  ive had issues with the older gnome and kde configs  however messing with a new install/versions of gnome/kde.03:37
DaveQBoh  finally, done!03:37
DaveQBdr_willis: that has been warrying me03:38
DaveQBdr_willis: mv  ~/.kde ~/.kde.orig fix it ?03:38
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aseigo_lsber, used03:39
imbrandonkdhome or kdehome aseigo_lsb ?03:39
DaveQBaseigo_lsb:  oh, nice one03:39
aseigo_lsb$KDEHOME03:40
imbrandoncool03:40
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imbrandonheheh i thought it was but wasent sure, so i was checkin03:40
robin_nobody got the problem, that the partition manager in the installer is way to big -> it doesn't fit in the screen.03:40
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robin_hmm, kubuntu.org already down.03:41
imbrandonrobin_, dosent look like it to me ....03:41
robin_imbrandon: the website, or the installer :) ?03:42
h3sp4wnimbrandon: Do you mirror the wiki by chance also ?03:42
imbrandonh3sp4wn, where ?03:42
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imbrandonerr what wiki i should say03:42
h3sp4wnimbrandon: You were talking about having a repository mirror I just wondered whether you also mirrored the wki03:43
vinboyhi03:43
vinboyhow do I reduce the number of terminals?03:43
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imbrandonh3sp4wn, nah just the dapper bin and src repos03:43
Hobbseevinboy: comment out the extra ones in /etc/inittab03:43
vinboythanks Hobbsee03:43
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[HUN] Big_Thi kubuntu users03:43
imbrandonrobin_, they both come from the same server03:44
Hobbseealepetrucci: there arent problems upgrading from an earlier beta of dapper to a later one03:44
[HUN] Big_Tcan anyone help me with my ubuntu install? i get an error message when the system root is mounting: cdrom_pc_intr: the drive appears confused03:44
[HUN] Big_Twhat to do now? :(03:45
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alepetruccihobbsee: i installed the last beta, released around one week ago...now it says idont have anything to update....and i updated the beta dayly since today03:45
imbrandonalepetrucci, then you have the release03:46
Hobbseealepetrucci: that woudl be right03:46
kkathmanalepetrucci:  this was what I was trying to say earlier03:46
alepetrucciwell i already have the finalekubuntu and i didnt know  :)03:46
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[HUN] Big_Tanyone knows a way to fix my problem?  :[03:47
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robin_imbrandon: well they both doesn't work anymore :)03:48
imbrandon[HUN] Big_T, i dont know but i'm trying to find out for you03:48
[HUN] Big_Tthx imbrandon03:48
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robin_i'm trying to download the alternative, since the desktop version keeps crashing while installing.03:48
[HUN] Big_Ti didn't find anything in the wiki about this03:49
h3sp4wnimbrandon: dpkg-reconfigure debconf was all that was necessary03:49
robin_[HUN] Big_T: are you using sata ?03:50
[HUN] Big_Tno, just ide03:50
[HUN] Big_T1 have 2 ide buses03:50
[HUN] Big_Tprimary: 2 ide hdd03:50
robin_[HUN] Big_T: can you set them in compatibility mode in your bios ?03:50
[HUN] Big_Trobin_ i'll try03:51
[HUN] Big_Tnow i'm in bios03:51
[HUN] Big_Twhat to do?03:51
imbrandoncool h3sp4wn03:52
imbrandonok i'm off to bed, gnight h3sp4wn, Hobbsee and everyone03:52
robin_[HUN] Big_T: I don't know for sre, I have heard from someone else who had the same problem, he could set some compatibility mode for the ide stuff03:52
h3sp4wnimbrandon: Bye03:52
Hobbseenight imbrandon03:52
cfraz89night all03:52
robin_[HUN] Big_T: in the bios, which seems to fix it.03:52
robin_cya03:53
[HUN] Big_Ti have to set at the ide devices the type of the cdroms to cdrom?03:53
xwolf-do I have to change breezy-updates and breezy-security repos to dapper-up.. and dapper-sec... too?03:54
imbrandonyes03:55
[HUN] Big_Tah i've found it03:55
imbrandonxwolf-, yes03:55
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deeverhey guys!03:55
deeverthe torrent seems to be broken!03:56
XVampireXThen don't download from the torrent03:56
Hobbseedeever: link to the torrent?03:56
deeverhttp://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release/dvd/kubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso.torrent03:56
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Hobbseehmm okay, that is the right torrent03:56
deeveri'm using ktorrent03:57
XVampireXHey, where do I get to see this commercial?: http://www.ubuntu.com/include/img/totem.png03:58
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gilhello03:59
deeverdoes the torrent work for someone out there?03:59
gilcan someone help me with my 6in1 card reader on a toshiba?03:59
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gilwhat drivers/lib do i need for that03:59
chavoXVampireX, /etc/skel/Examples04:00
xwolf-how big is the full upgrade, approximately?04:00
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DaveQB600mb for me04:00
chavoxwolf-, depends on what you've installed04:00
xwolf-breezy cd.. :P04:01
DaveQBwhy would one have pkg's kept back after the dist-upgrade ?? mostly OOo204:01
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TheFuzzballhow do I upgrade from KDE 3.5.2 to KDE 3.5.3 on Kubuntu Dapper?04:01
deeverthe torrent seems to be broken!04:01
deeverhttp://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release/dvd/kubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso.torrent04:01
Hobbsee!kde3.5.304:01
ubotukde3.5.3 is, like, to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".04:01
deeverdoes the torrent work for someone out there?04:01
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XVampireXchavo: Thanks04:01
chavonp04:02
DexterFbloody hell.04:02
DaveQBdeever: yep04:03
DexterFreinst'ed X and kde, still wont start04:03
DaveQBdeever: you mean to download, or the ISO once downloaded through torrent ?04:03
Hobbsee!xhangs04:03
ubotuIf the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority04:03
deeverDaveQB: to download04:04
DexterFin case that was for me - already did that 100 lines above04:04
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DaveQBdeever:  oh ok, yeah working here fine04:04
HobbseeDexterF: cd && rm .Xauthority .ICEauthority && cd .kde && rm *.<username> && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart04:04
DaveQBI went through Tawain mirror04:04
DaveQBdeever: http://apt.nc.hcc.edu.tw/pub/ubuntu-cd/kubuntu/6.06/04:04
deeverDaveQB: ok, thanks! ;)04:04
DaveQBdeever:  no worries04:05
HobbseeDexterF: that should hopefully fix the problem04:05
DexterFHobbsee: ok, didn't rm Xauthority, only ICE04:05
HobbseeDexterF: do both - copy and paste that whole command04:05
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HobbseeDexterF: no, wait.04:06
HobbseeDexterF: cd && rm .Xauthority .ICEauthority .DCOP* && cd .kde && rm *-<username> && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart04:06
DexterFHobbsee: I don't see the point in rming .kde/*.<username>04:06
Hobbseegot one of the commands wrong :P04:07
DexterFapart from that there's nothing in .kde that matches.04:07
DexterFif there was, what would that do?04:07
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HobbseeDexterF: yes, see the new version - i meant a - rather than a .04:07
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi there! somebody here uses IRC to download divx movies?04:07
DexterFTallia1Kubuntu: bob damnit04:08
XVampireXTallia1Kubuntu: Bad question04:08
MasterEvilAceRUN AWAY QUICKLY04:09
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DaveQBcould be legit movies04:09
DexterFyeah. right.04:09
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MasterEvilAcedoes anyone else have a problem where amarok simply DOES NOT remember to NOT show a splash screen??04:09
Tallia1Kubuntumeh.. whatever, thnx anyway04:09
DaveQBElephants Dream Tallia1Kubuntu ?04:09
DexterFthat you can only get on IRC04:09
DaveQB:)04:09
XVampireXYeah, Elephants Dream is good04:09
DaveQBweird though04:10
DaveQB"Emo.... Emo ..... Emo ..... "04:10
FarhadHello to all04:10
gilcan anyone help me....i need to get my card reader setup?>04:10
gildoes not pick up at all04:10
DaveQBgil sudo lspci ?04:10
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Tallia1Kubuntucan i just ask you why you got so upset? it seems a bit weird to me.. pretty much everybody that use inet that i know downloads from the net movies and music.. could you clarify me the situation?04:10
DaveQBgil:  or sudo lsusb ?04:10
DexterFHobbsee: what can I say. still doesn't work. I guess I really butchered that install when tinkering with Xorg.04:11
DexterFXgl I mean04:11
sPidermanhow do i install firefox 1.504:11
gilDaveQB thanks04:11
sPidermani have extract it04:11
gilits a built in toshiba card reader04:11
DexterFsPiderman: use adept or synaptic04:11
bachstudiesis anyone having trouble getting the screensaver to activate in 6.06?04:11
HobbseeDexterF: hmmm...04:11
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DaveQBgil:  if no info on it from those commands then the kernel isnt seeing it04:11
DexterFno need to extract anything at all04:11
Tallia1KubuntuDaveQB:  DexterF: XVampireX: can you answer me?04:11
Hobbsee!tell sPiderman about firefox1.504:11
XVampireXWhat?04:12
Tallia1Kubuntucan i just ask you why you got so upset? it seems a bit weird to me.. pretty much everybody that use inet that i know downloads from the net movies and music.. could you clarify me the situation?04:12
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DexterFTallia1Kubuntu: listen, this is a channel about Kubuntu. so thats the first thing where your question was inappropriate04:12
XVampireXI don't go on IRC for that, there are torrents for that04:12
DexterFnext: you asked about warez04:12
gillspci sees it04:12
XVampireXYeah04:12
gilhow do i access it...04:12
DaveQBwhat DexterF said04:12
XVampireX!offtopic04:12
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!04:12
DaveQBgil:  :)04:12
DexterFdon't tdon't try to bs anyone here, if someone asks about divx via irc case is clear04:12
DaveQBgil:  did it auto mount then ??04:12
Tallia1Kubuntuyeah yeah i know.. but torrents i dunno why make my US-robotics not work well.. i can't navigate anymore04:13
gilno04:13
DaveQBgil:  try mount command04:13
DaveQBgil:  might reveal more04:13
DaveQBhmmm ok gil04:13
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Tallia1Kubuntusorry about the unappropriate question..04:13
DexterFTallia1Kubuntu: in general: freenode and warez talk -> perm ban soon04:13
DaveQBis it plugged into the mainboard USB pins and you can unplug ?04:13
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DaveQBgil:  ^04:14
DexterFthis is a network thats mostly or entirely about free software and we don't wanna go anywhere near this direction04:14
gilsorry04:14
DexterFhey, my libdecss is broken :D04:14
DexterF*scnr*04:14
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gilmount reveals nothing of the device04:14
DaveQBgil:  what does 'sudo fdisk -l' give you?04:14
gilgives me all mounted disks04:14
DexterFHobbsee: no more time to tinker, ill just reinstall i guess. luckily this is a test install only04:15
DaveQBgil: fdisk -l ?04:15
gildoes not show me the PCI device04:15
Hobbseeheh04:15
DaveQBit should list ALL disk, mounted or not04:15
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gilshows me 6dev/sda04:16
gilsorry04:16
gilshows me dev/sda1 --- dev/sda604:16
DaveQBgil:  ?  /dev/sda ? that should be it then04:16
DaveQBtry sudo fdisk /dev/sda04:16
DaveQBgil:  my USB HDD's and MP3's get listed as /dev/sdaX devices04:17
gilthese are all partitions i have on my drice04:17
gildrive04:17
DaveQBgil:  tried konqueror and going to address media:/04:17
DaveQBgil:  HDD or USB ?04:18
DaveQBgil:  need more info mate about your set up04:18
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gilthe only usb device i have now is an external DVDRW04:19
gildev/sda1 windows///dev/sda2 another fat32 partition and so on...04:19
gili have little experience in this as you can tell04:19
gilbare with me04:19
DaveQBgil:  no worries mate04:20
DaveQBbut you sure they are sda and not hda ?04:20
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davidhousehi guys. it is not possible for xine to play mp3s?04:21
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davidhousein breezy, this is.04:21
MasterEvilAcexine CAN play mp3s04:21
MasterEvilAcei dunno aboot specifics04:21
davidhouseyes, i had amarok/xine playing mp3s on my suse.04:21
imbrandon_zZzdavidhouse, apt-get install libxine-extracodecs04:21
davidhousebut there doesn't seen to be a libxine-mad04:21
imbrandon_zZzdavidhouse, apt-get install libxine-extracodecs04:21
davidhouseimbrandon_zZz: breezy.04:21
davidhouseit isn't there ;)04:22
imbrandon_zZzbreezy i dont know, dapper is stable ;)04:22
davidhouseis it easy to upgrade?04:22
MasterEvilAceHey, after installing KDE3.5.3 it seems my laptop LCD keeps using MAX resolution available on startup-- rather than the MAX the monitor can support.. 1600x1200. how do i fix it? i removed resolutions above 1600x1200 from xorg.conf but they came back, and still the same thing.04:22
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imbrandon_zZzdavidhouse, very easy04:22
NRG88how come KDE 3.5.3 isn't on the official CD?04:22
gilso dave you wana try to give me another push here?04:22
imbrandon_zZzNRG88, it wasent avaible in time for the release04:22
imbrandon_zZzdavidhouse, follow the cli instructions on this page04:23
NRG88hm, but I could upgrade to KDE 3.5.304:23
imbrandon_zZz!upgrade04:23
imbrandon_zZz!+upgrade04:23
ubotuupgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.04:23
empibig thx @ all kubuntu/ubuntu developers btw,04:23
Hamurabbidoes the kubuntu dvd contain both the Desktop and the "Server"/"alternate" versions ?04:23
imbrandon_zZzNRG88,  yes goto kubuntu.org and read about kde 3.5.304:23
DaveQBgil:  paste bin the out of these 2 commands  'sudo fdisk -l' and 'mount'04:23
davidhousethanks imbrandon_zZz. i was wiki-scouring but it's a bit slow at the minute with all the 6.06 traffic04:23
NRG88imbrandon_zZz, I heard something about a gold edition04:24
robin_ok, cool, the installer is now copying the files.04:24
NRG88like in a week or so04:24
imbrandon_zZzgold edition ? of what ?04:24
robin_the crash seems have to do with not formating the hdd.04:24
NRG88dapper04:24
DaveQBrobin_:  cool.  Bout time huh ?04:24
imbrandon_zZzhahah no04:24
DaveQBrobin_:  you grabbed Alternative quick04:24
davidhouseimbrandon_zZz: hmm... that applies to ubuntu. anything more specific for kubuntu?04:24
DaveQBrobin_:  so the LiveCD installer expects a blank HDD ?04:25
imbrandon_zZzdavid i said follow the cli04:25
robin_DaveQB: no, not the alternative ;)04:25
robin_DaveQB: the desktop version..04:25
DaveQBrobin_:  need to do some manual work for it to work ?04:25
DaveQBrobin_:  how did you get it working then ?04:25
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robin_DaveQB: I has an old reiserfs parition, and as default it won't format it again.04:25
robin_DaveQB: so, I have checked Format., and now it's working04:26
robin_DaveQB: I guess the old filesystem was fubar.04:26
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DaveQBrobin_:  hahaha, that simple ?04:26
robin_DaveQB: yes04:26
DaveQBrobin_: do you get to select what partition to use ?04:26
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robin_DaveQB: yes04:26
NRG88i wonder when will KDE 3.5.3 be included on the CD04:26
DaveQBreinstall rather, have Vector on it04:26
DaveQBcool04:27
DaveQBrobin_:  get to select mount points ?04:27
gildave how do i paste this here04:27
DaveQBNRG88:  next release is my bet04:27
robin_DaveQB: yes04:27
NRG88next release?04:27
DaveQBgil:  too much to paste here, use a paste bin, not sure of one in here, might be in the topic04:27
NRG88hey, this is not gnome :P04:27
robin_DaveQB: you are trying to install it now ?04:28
DaveQBrobin_:  no, well dist-upgrading my Desktop04:28
robin_DaveQB: ok04:28
DaveQBrobin_:  waiting for the big OOo2 pkgs to download04:28
chavoNRG88, you can get 3.5.3, but it won't be on the CD04:29
DaveQByou know OOo has more lines of code then the kernel! Almost double, from memory04:29
NRG88:(04:29
robin_the kubuntu server is kinda strange or it won't connect or it does, and than you get full speed :)04:29
NRG88ok04:29
chavo!kde3.5.304:29
uboturumour has it, kde3.5.3 is to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".04:29
NRG88when will the DVD be out?04:29
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gilDaveQB:http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=6312404:34
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robin_cool04:35
robin_kubuntu installed :)04:35
robin_went pretty fast04:35
Hamurabbiwhat cd did you use ?04:35
robin_Desktop04:36
DaveQBgil: so sda is definately your HDD then,04:36
DaveQBgil:  fdisk -l ?04:36
Hamurabbiis it fast ?04:36
gilyes04:36
DaveQBrobin_:  20mins ?04:36
Hamurabbistable ?04:36
robin_I think less than 20mins04:36
gilthis is what i get from lspci http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=6312504:37
DaveQBgil:  this might help, before i forget about it04:37
DaveQBhttp://www.cs.sfu.ca/~ggbaker/personal/cf-linux04:37
gilyou will see that at the end it pick up card reader04:37
DaveQBgil:  ahh mass storage device, thats a plus04:38
Firetechhmm, I can't reinstall kubuntu-desktop for upgrading, since it depends on akode, that doesn't want to be installed...04:39
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DaveQBgil:  cat /proc/bus/usb/devices ?04:39
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gilsorry must run04:42
gili appreciate the help so far04:42
yamalis there anywhere to get the dvd iso other than bittorrent?04:42
porter235hey all.. looking for suggestions.. i am attempting to upgrade to dapper. dist-upgrade wants to remove all kde stuff... checked -f install kubuntu-desktop and it wont go due to dependencies that won't be installed. so should i just go ahead and do the dist-upgrade (removing all kde) and THEN the -f install kubuntu-desktop? will i still have all of my config info?04:42
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DaveQBporter235:  yeah, if you want to be certain, backup your ~/.kde folder04:44
DaveQBbut maybe you haven't the right repos in sources.list ??04:44
silensiusc04:45
porter235deb file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main04:45
porter235## All officially supported packages, including security- and other updates04:45
porter235deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted04:45
porter235deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted04:45
porter235deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted04:45
porter235## The source packages (only needed to recompile existing packages)04:45
porter235# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted04:45
porter235# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted04:45
porter235# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted04:45
porter235## All community supported packages, including security- and other updates04:45
porter235deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse04:45
porter235deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse04:45
porter235deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse04:45
DexterFporter235: pastebin, axpr.net or #flood04:46
porter235sorry04:46
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porter235<- irc ignoramous04:47
DexterFHobbsee: found sth interesting in ~/.xsession-errors - apparently kde borks because it can't create a new error log file04:47
Hobbseeporter235: do not paste!04:47
porter235got it. thanks.04:47
HobbseeDexterF: er, okay then....04:47
DexterFsays no perm for writing to /dev/null - i checked from my main system (slackware), had 666, but I remember in kubuntu it had only 60004:48
DexterFand belonged to root:root04:48
DexterFudev bug?04:48
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h3sp4wnDexterF: Should be 666 (is on both my dapper boxes)04:50
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DexterFok, ill check it in th elive system... later04:50
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DaveQBporter235: this might help http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php04:51
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caribou7I just installed Kubuntu on a system sitting next to this one04:56
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caribou7I have two questions if anyone can help me04:56
caribou71) How do I install the Krusader file manager?04:57
caribou72) I installed Firefox but it does not seem to have tabs as in Windows, why?04:57
tidalwav1it should have tabs--hit ctrl+t04:58
tidalwav1see if one appears04:58
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caribou7Okay, that worked.  Hmmm.04:58
tidalwav1you probably have an extension installed on your other system to keep the tab bar visible when no tabs are open.04:58
DaveQBcaribou7: right click (near the top) > Customize .....04:58
imbrandontidalwav1, thats not an extension its an option04:59
imbrandonin normal ff04:59
tidalwav1ah04:59
tidalwav1I always used an extension :P04:59
imbrandonjust goto options its inthe tab options04:59
tidalwav1tab mix plus04:59
tidalwav1heh04:59
tidalwav1as for my question:04:59
caribou7Ah, that's the problem I'll bet05:00
tidalwav1I'm trying to get my network up using ndiswrapper05:00
tidalwav1kubuntu's detecting my wireless card as eth005:00
caribou7I probably need the tab mix plus extension.05:00
tidalwav1even though ndiswrapper said driver and hardware present and the module's loaded05:00
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caribou7DaveQB, I do not see a "Customize" option.05:01
tidalwav1I can't bring up the network05:01
imbrandonand the problem is ?05:01
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tidalwav1even though it's detected as eth005:01
DaveQBcaribou7: what do you have then ?05:01
imbrandontype "dhclient eth0" see what happens05:01
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tidalwav1sudo dhclient eth0 fails05:01
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tidalwav1so does ifup eth005:01
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imbrandonhrm thats as much as i know about ndiswrapper05:01
imbrandonbrb05:01
tidalwav1heh k05:02
tidalwav1actually it was detected as eth1 :P doesn't really matter05:02
tidalwav1I tried the commands with 1 not 005:02
tidalwav1lol05:02
tidalwav1idk, is there a way to force network reconfiguration?05:02
h3sp4wnDo you what chipset your card is based upon ?05:02
Hobbseetidalwav1: is there any encryption on the network?05:02
tidalwav1uhhh05:02
tidalwav1nope, no encryption.05:02
tidalwav1it's a microsoft mn 720.05:03
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tidalwav1I'll get the chipset in a second.05:03
tidalwav1pci based.05:03
tidalwav1would lspci inform me of the chipset?05:03
Hobbseeyes05:03
tidalwav1looks like a broadcom BCM43xG05:03
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tidalwav1I had this problem with the beta releases of dapper as well05:04
tidalwav1I think it's something that KDE is doing05:04
tidalwav1if I hit 'enable interface' it lights up in the network settings dialog then dies almost instantly05:04
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tidalwav1but like I said05:05
h3sp4wntidalwav1: Have you installed the firmware ?05:05
tidalwav1is there a way to just force reconfiguration?05:06
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tidalwav1what do you mean by firmware05:06
tidalwav1you mean the ndiswrapper drivers?05:06
tidalwav1yes.05:06
h3sp4wnhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx05:07
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h3sp4wnDon't use ndiswrapper with dapper (unless its a last resort)05:07
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iqondoes anyone have google video working in konquerer?05:07
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damian_yes i have05:08
iqonhow do i get it to work?05:08
klerfaytiqon: it's half broken here05:08
Seantater_I've never gotten it to work05:08
klerfaytI thnk that you need java to get it working?05:09
james_xxxi have several wireless cards around here... have got none of them to work yet05:09
tidalwav1ok, awesome, looks like I should be able to use the bcm43 driver05:09
tidalwav1I'll try that05:09
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rohankubuntu.org is down ?05:10
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foodcomanWoooooop!    Good Job Kubuntu/Ubuntu Team...... You Rock!05:12
rohanwish i could go to the site :P05:12
robin_I have some problem with my wifi, according to this site: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/329  I have to run bcm43xx-fwcutter, but it isn't installed, and neither apt can find it in the repositories.05:13
chavorohan, it's loading here, but really slow05:13
rohanouch, kubuntu already has so many problems ?! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems05:13
rohanchavo: oh, here its timing out05:13
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nochgood morning05:13
klerfaytiqon: I can see the videos in google but "arrow" key that let's you zoom 1:1 doesn't work05:13
foodcomanI am glad its that popular.05:13
chavoyeah I can imagine it's getting hammered :)05:13
nochor evening, night, whatever05:13
klerfaytiqon: how did yu install flash?05:14
nochanyone try the new release yet?05:14
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DeadS0ulnoch:  i'm on it05:14
DeadS0uland have been for a while05:14
foodcomannoch: I installed the RC and have updated.  Very nice and smooth.05:14
DeadS0ulit's pretty sweet hehe05:14
nochhmm05:14
nochok05:15
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DeadS0ulonly problem is I can't get my remote for my bttv card working05:15
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cucoRiddell, here?05:15
robin_I have some problem with my wifi, according to this site: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/329  I have to run bcm43xx-fwcutter, but it isn't installed, and neither apt can find it in the repositories. <= someone can check this ?05:15
cucoRiddell, is it ok to add a new patch for kdelibs which fixes http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118319 ?05:16
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DeadS0ulI have it ..05:17
DeadS0ulrobin_: I have it05:17
nochsigh . .05:17
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nochi love it when i dont use my laptop for a few days and i come on to 2309442989 new updates . . .05:18
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robin_DeadS0ul: hmm strange, I have updated my repositories, but still it can't be found05:18
robin_DeadS0ul: can you see in which repository  ?05:18
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Hobbseenoch: hehe - now be fair here - even from breezy, the number of updates is under 100005:18
DeadS0ulpool/universe/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060108-6build1_i386.deb05:19
jeff_lol05:19
nochheh yea05:19
jeff_does anybody know the default directory of kde base?05:19
jeff_i need it for Kinstaller05:20
Hobbseeer....locate kdebase?05:20
foodcomanjeff_: Your package manager will tell you.05:20
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Kronozis the final  kdapper much different to the rc?05:21
h3sp4wnjeff_: dpkg -L kde-base (if it is installed)05:21
h3sp4wnjeff_: dpkg -L kdebase (sorry)05:21
jeff_foodcoman: i mostly only use apt, would apt-cache show kdebase do the trick?05:22
jeff_lol ok05:22
jeff_thanks05:22
robin_DeadS0ul: thx, for some odd reason apt had disabled all repositories (comment out in sources.list).05:22
tidalwav1the bcm43xx driver didn't work, but blacklisting that module and using ndiswrapper worked perfectly :P05:23
jeff_h3sp4wn: it lists a few directories05:23
h3sp4wnjeff_: that lists all the files installed by kdebase05:23
DeadS0ulhaha05:23
DeadS0ulwhat wifi cards work in linux atm?05:24
h3sp4wnatheros (best)05:24
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h3sp4wnintel / ralink05:24
foodcomanDeadS0ul: The Intel in my Thinkpad R52 is working nicely!  =D05:24
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robin_DeadS0ul: I hope I can use my broadcom with the experimental drivers, otherwise I have to use ndiswrapper again, and stick to the windows driver, which works perfect though.05:24
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Firetechhmm... dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper wants to remove an awfull lot of packages, not just all of KDE, but also gnome stuff like gedit etc, mozilla-broswer and nvidia-settings (and a lot more)... is this normal?05:26
Firetech1618 upgraded, 231 newly installed, 529 to remove and 12 not upgraded.05:26
foodcomanNative support for the Intel 2200BG in the base install.05:26
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DeadS0ulyah I got the intell 2100 working on my laptop05:27
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foodcomanWow 1084 nicks in ubuntu.  Sheesh.05:30
Hobbseefoodcoman: yeah, wow :P05:30
Hobbseethat's bigger then #gentoo or #debian05:30
Hobbseethank goodness for a lack of spammers though!05:31
aeon17xis that the new record?05:31
foodcomanhttp://distrowatch.org   Check out the hit rates at the right.  Popularity.05:31
Hobbseei'd beleive so05:31
aseigo_lsbfoodcoman: those stats are more than a little skewed05:32
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foodcomanIts not Linux popularity.  Its hit rates on that web site per link of distro.05:34
jeeklHow do I specify qtdir when running configre? --qtdir=/usr/share/qt4 right?05:35
chavojeekl, ./configure --help05:36
foodcomanaseigo_lsb: I just assume alot of people are seeing what the Ubuntu buzz is all about.05:36
robin_To use WPA encryption, I'm still forced to use the wpasupplicant scripts ?05:37
jeeklchavo: Yes, thats what I did. And I did it rihgt. Where does kubuntu install qt 4?05:37
robin_the GUI still only offers WEP input box.05:37
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Hobbseerobin_: install knetworkmanager05:38
robin_Hobbsee: looks cool, gonna try it out, why isn't installed by default ?05:40
jorgpon distrowatch.org, why is kubuntu so low05:40
Hobbseerobin_: i dont know...05:40
Hobbseejorgp: less kubuntu users than ubuntu ones05:40
jeeklchavo: This is what I'm getting http://pastebin.com/75151405:40
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h3sp4wnrobin_ : you can now configure wpa_supplicant from /etc/network/interfaces05:41
chavojeekl, did you  set $QTDIR05:42
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jeeklchavo: No, do I need to whenusing qtdir?05:42
h3sp4wnrobin_: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes (is pretty easy to understand)05:42
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Hobbseeh3sp4wn: you can do it from knetworkmanager too :P05:43
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h3sp4wnHobbsee: If you want your connection to go down all the time (at least on ralink and atheros) :D05:43
Hobbseeh3sp4wn: ah okay - i dont have those cards05:44
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_johnhello everyone05:45
Phleagorhi05:45
Hobbseehi05:45
_johni am new to kubuntu....and i would like to ask a few questions05:45
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Hobbsee!+ask05:46
ubotuFor information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:46
jeeklchavo: I've set $QTDIR=/usr/share/qt4 but still getting the same result.05:46
_johnok....i have avi files that i want to burn to player on my dvd player connected to my tv....i tried installing tovid + tovid-gui...but the gui part won't install05:47
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dontmis there any way to upgrade to dapper from breezy w/o reinstalling?05:49
_johnis there another program to convert avi files besides tovid05:49
Phleagoryes dontm05:49
Phleagorupdate your sources.list05:49
Phleagorand then05:49
Phleagor#apt-get update05:49
Phleagor# apt-get dist-upgrade05:49
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Phleagori'm doin it at the moment05:49
Phleagorit is installing the packages05:50
oatesand then reinstall kde, right?05:50
Phleagori think it installs automatically05:50
oatesi did a dist-upgrade and it removed all kde packages05:50
JacciIs it possible to install kubuntu on a separate physical drive so that the windows disks would remain inaccessible from linux?05:50
Phleagorthen do "apt-get insyall kubuntu-desktop" as root05:50
oatesor rather, is in the process of doing so :)05:51
oatesyeah05:51
dontmPhleagor: is there a website detailing all those steps?05:51
Phleagoryes05:51
Phleagormom05:51
_johnanother thing...i am used to debian proper....i want to upgrade my kernel.....can you apt-get linux-imge and install a new kernel05:51
armedking Is there a way to look for unused installed packages and remove them. ie. when installing something it installes deps but when removing the main package the dependancys remain05:51
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dontmmom?05:51
robin__cool, the broadcom drivers rocks :) it even find more wifi networks than the windows driver :D05:52
h3sp4wndontm: sudo sed -ie "s/breezy/dapper/" sources.list && grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list (should all say dapper) then sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade05:52
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Phleagormom = one moment, please :)05:52
gilok am back now...05:52
gili have a toshiba m40x....i cant for the life of me get the Card reader to pick up an inserted card05:52
Phleagordontm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades05:53
robin__and knetwork manager works great, although it complains the network has been disconnected, while it is still active and working ;)05:53
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armedkingAnyone?05:53
Phleagori will restart now05:54
Phleagorbrb05:54
Hobbseearmedking: in aptitude somehwo05:54
dontmPhleagor: ty exactly what i was looking for05:54
_johndoes dapper have xorg 7.005:54
JacciHow can you "disable" the windows disks from linux?05:54
armedkingHobbsee: Well the questing it how realy. It doesnt have a function like that.05:54
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Hobbseearmedking: i think it happens when you sudo aptitude remove apackage, and it gets rid of unneeded ones a swell05:55
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jorgp_john: yes05:55
Firetechis it normal that all of KDE gets uninstalled on upgrade to dapper? (im using the official 3.5.2 packages for breezy)05:55
HobbseeFiretech: so it seems05:56
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Phleagorre05:56
Phleagorit works05:56
Phleagori have dapper :D05:56
Phleagor*dance*05:56
_johnrats then i can't upgrade to dapper .... pout05:57
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HobbseePhleagor: yay!  did you dist-upgrade?05:57
Phleagoryes05:57
Phleagorclick the link i postet above05:57
FiretechHobbsee: it it normal that a lot of other packages like gedit and mozilla-browser gets removed too?05:57
Phleagorthere is the description how it works05:57
dr_willisthey get removed then reinstalled i think.05:57
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Hobbseedr_willis: a FYI - if you've already got an earlier version of dapper, you dont have to reinstall now that the release is out - it's fine to upgrade05:58
Phleagorhmm...the plastik theme looks a bit different05:58
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dr_willisHobbsee:  ive been upgrading for the last 2 months. :P05:58
FiretechI have kde (used), gnome (unused) and xfce (unused) installed, don't reawlly know why...05:58
nico8481hello05:58
dr_willisMoo05:59
dontmPhleagor: why not just use the "update-manager" approach?05:59
Hobbseenight all.06:00
Phleagori don't know it, dontm06:00
Phleagorso i just replaced the sources.list06:00
Phleagori think it's easier06:00
Phleagorand i know what i have done06:00
jarlathWhats on the DVD version of kubuntu that isnt on the CD?06:01
Hobbseejarlath: all of main, i believe06:01
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jarlathHobbsee, thanks.06:03
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dontmPhleagor: so basically it's just a matter of replacing breezy w/ dapper in the source list, updating the headers, and then issuing dist-upgrade?06:05
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Hobbseedontm: yep06:06
Phleagoryes06:06
dontmok i guess i will HAVE to do it manually being that the url in the wiki is down06:06
dontm=-(06:06
dontmpaste.ubuntu-nl.org:6666 is down06:06
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Hobbseedontm: use pastebin.com06:07
dontmthat is where the updated source list resides according to the wiki06:07
dontm?06:07
dontmHobbsee: what do u mean?06:07
Hobbseedontm: as paste.ubuntu-nl.org is down, use another pastebin service..06:08
caribou7Okay, can anyone tell me how to install Krusader06:08
Hobbsee!krusader06:08
ubotuHobbsee: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:08
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Hobbseesudo apt-get install krusader?06:08
dr_willissudo apt-get install krusader06:08
dr_willis:P06:08
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caribou7Thanks06:09
dontmHobbsee: ok so pastebin.com:6666 will also contain the updated source list?06:09
nomad411had never heard of Krusader before, how would that be better than splitting a view in Konqueror?06:09
nomad411!krusader06:09
ubotunomad411: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:09
Hobbseedontm: i doubt it06:09
Kronoznomad411, krusader has more file operation options i think06:10
nomad411ahh06:10
nomad411will look at it06:10
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h3sp4wndontm: have a look at http://www.dirtytechno.org/linux/sources.list and I know its working06:11
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dontmh3sp4wn: thank you very much yet again06:12
caribou7I got Couldn't find package krusader06:12
dontmh3sp4wn: i am assuming i can safely change gb to us?06:13
DrCurlhello06:13
h3sp4wndontm: yes06:13
DrCurlWill networkmanager integrate well with xubuntu?06:13
h3sp4wndontm: It presumes that both archives are working correctly at the moment06:13
h3sp4wnDrCurl: #xubuntu may know06:14
DrCurlha sorry06:14
DrCurlwrong chanel :(06:14
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dontmkk pkgs are downloading now thank you all for ur help06:15
dontmso after dist-upgrade finishes06:16
dontmi should reinstall/update the kubuntu-desktop pkg right?06:17
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h3sp4wndontm: yes06:17
dontmand then that's it right?06:17
h3sp4wndontm: That is listed as a bug on the kubuntu page I think06:17
dontmoh damn06:17
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h3sp4wndontm: Its not a problem though just put it back sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop06:18
dontmright yeah just saw that on the wiki cool thanks06:18
r0xzthe language of ktorrent svn in dapper changed recently. Is it possible to change it back?06:18
h3sp4wndontm: Are you using ndiswrapper or any strange wireless stuff ?06:18
dontmh3sp4wn: seriously thanks for all ur help.  im gonna go get rdy for work now while all this ish downloads bbl06:19
dontmh3sp4wn: nah this is all for fun in vmware06:19
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cskohow can i install dapper using expert mode?06:19
dontmh3sp4wn: actually i was thinking of getting a laptop soon and throwing kubu on it.  any recos?  tuxmobil is good but a lil outdated =-/06:19
caribou7Well I'm unimpressed with Kubuntu so far... first thing I try to install (besides Firefox) turning out to be major problem - I found instructions at http://www.elijahlofgren.com/ubuntu/breezy/ (under Build a stable Krusader) but it doesn't work06:21
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dontmcaribou7: that doesnt mean u should be unimpressed w/ the entire distro cuz ONE pkg gives u problems =-)06:21
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Phleagorhmm...sound is very silent now06:22
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Phleagormixers are all at the top06:22
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caribou7Well, except this is the equivalent of the one program I use the most under Windows.06:22
dr_willis apt-cache search krusader06:22
dr_williskrusader - Twin-panel (commander-style) File Manager for KDE06:22
chavokruasder is in universe06:22
davidhousehi guys. just upgrade to dapper. everything seems to be hanging together, but irssi segfaults.06:23
caribou7That doesn't maen anything to me, I'm new at this06:23
chavo!repos06:23
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource06:23
dr_willisI would NOT trust that http://www.elijahlofgren.com/ubuntu/breezy/ site.. for several reasons.. one its for breezy. ;p we are now using dapper.06:23
caribou7Oh06:23
dr_willissecondly it reccomends to use automatix.06:23
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caribou7That's how little I know06:23
dr_williswhich is 'bad' :)06:24
caribou7That's not a good idea?06:24
caribou7I had heard that was a good thing to install06:24
dr_willisits a VERY VERY VERY bad thing to use06:24
caribou7I had heard you need to use that to get certain types of media to play.06:25
dr_willisif you must use a helper-script try that  easyubuntu one. (i think)06:25
dr_willisyou dont have to use automatix. it can all be done safer manually06:25
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dr_willis!easyubuntu06:25
uboturumour has it, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.06:25
dr_willisjava - is now in the repos.. and is trivial to install. :P06:25
dr_willisso even thats a little out of date06:25
caribou7Okay06:25
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dr_willisbest solution - learn how/why to install the stuff you need yourself. normally its a look up on the wiki page.. a little reading and a cut/paste to the console. :P06:26
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caribou7What wiki page?  I JUST put this up this morning.06:27
dr_willishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/06:27
caribou7Don't assume I know ANYTHING other than how to get around in Windows.  :-)06:28
dr_willisthen you should spend a few hrs reading that wiki, and several linux tutorials.06:28
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dr_willisand not say how 'unimpressed' you are about things till you have enough experience to give a educated oponion. :)06:28
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SkrotFFSHi. Using konqueror and having kmplayer installed should make kmplayer embedd in konqueror when visiting sites such as apple.com/trailers right?06:29
dr_willistheres also a great many other 2 pane file managers other then Krusader. I perfer 'mc'06:29
caribou7Reason I am unimpressed is because I was told that this was the Linux for Windows users - it isn't as easy as Windows!06:30
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Phleagoroh yes it is06:30
caribou7mc - command not found06:30
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dr_willislinux tip #1 - 'think'06:31
dr_willisif its not there - install it. :P06:31
nzthello06:31
h3sp4wncaribou7: Doing some things on windows is non trivial (using the iis object for example)06:31
caribou7Well, can you tell me how to install Krusader?  Found this wiki page, no installation instructions there:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportKrusader?highlight=%28Krusader%2906:31
caribou7I don't do that on Windows06:31
dr_willissudo apt-get install krusader06:32
caribou7I would not even know what the iis option is.06:32
dr_willisis what i used.06:32
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dr_willisyou are makign it way tooo hard. :P06:32
dr_willis!info krusader06:32
ubotukrusader: (Twin-panel (commander-style) File Manager for KDE), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.60.0-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1937 kB, Installed size: 5276 kB06:33
DaveQBAfter upgrading to Dapper, anyone have trouble with Nvidia module ?06:33
foodcomancaribou7: Its in the package manager.  Just have to add the Icon to kmenu06:33
caribou7it says "couldn't find package krusader"06:33
caribou7Please explain06:33
mezzhave you enabled the universe repositary?06:33
foodcomancaribou7: You probably havent enabled the other repositories.06:33
caribou7How do I do that?06:33
DaveQBand ran and update06:33
dr_willis!universe06:33
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource06:33
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mezzonce you have done that installing stuff will be really easy :)06:34
dr_willisa few clicks in the package manager. is one way.   i do it  so automatically.06:34
foodcomancaribou7: You can do this in adept package manager under system.06:34
dr_willisbut that stuff is considered less 'stable' i guess you can sao. so its not the default.06:34
foodcomancaribou7: its a menu option.06:34
Kronozhow are people finding kubuntu dapper?06:34
dr_willisactually dont the 'add/remove' programs entry auto-ask to enable them?06:34
foodcomanKronoz: I like it better than my Breezy installs.06:35
nzthmmm i've got a little trouble on da Kubujtu dapper  if in can ?06:35
Kronoznzt, jsut ask your question06:35
caribou7Okay, give me a minute to digest that, I'm looking at the page now06:35
foodcomancaribou7: Open Kmenu/system/adept.... then go to the Adept menu, then manage repositories.  Then you can enable the ones not enabled06:36
dr_williscaribou7:  look in the kde menus 'add/remove programs' i THought it asked if i wanted to enable those extra repos. as well.06:36
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dr_willisbut thats one of the first things i do on a clean install. :P so not sure.06:36
mezzKronoz: I really like it, occasionally has a really annoying crash when shutting down, but other than its great06:36
nzti've only the defauts one06:36
foodcomandr_willis: Sorry for butting in.  I will hold.  Sorry06:36
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dr_willisfoodcoman:  can you confirm that it did do that for you? I cant rember for sure if it did ask.06:37
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dr_willisfoodcoman:  it may of been the gnome add/remove program that did it :P06:38
dr_willishmm adept looks updates since last i used it. :P06:38
foodcomandr_willis: I manaully enabled mine in Adept.06:38
foodcomandr_willis: I am running add/remove now.06:38
dr_willisfoodcoman:  yea. :P i  just seem to recall that on an install i ran ad/remove first to see what it did. and it may of asked to set up the repos. since they were not set up.06:39
foodcomandr_willis: Unless checking the Unsupported/proprietary check boxes on the top right does this, then I would say no.06:39
caribou7Okay, I went to that Wiki page and I found adept but when I click on "Adept" it does not show what the wiki page shows, only the "Quit" option shows.06:39
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dr_williscaribou7:  try the "add/remove programs" entry in the menus and  see if you can install krusader that way  (its all just different front ends to the same tools)06:41
caribou7Oh... you have to do sudo adept06:41
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caribou7no I tried that already.06:41
dr_willisthat wiki page is showing the gnome tools/screen shots.06:41
caribou7Shows KDE near the bottom06:41
dr_willisthere it is. :P lol06:41
nzthave any solution for my noob trouble on dapper please06:41
dr_willislooks like thats the old adept. :P06:41
mezznzt: whats the problem?06:42
foodcomannzt:Lost of practice, and reading will fix any noob troubles.   =D06:42
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dr_willischeck them and search for krusader06:42
nzti've take dapper but when i've dowload skins et sudo cp them don't working06:43
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dr_willisyep.. check 'unsupported' and krusader shows up. :P06:43
nztone hour i try and read :)06:43
|ikaros|is there a java repository for dapper drake? (with j2sdk)06:43
foodcomandr_willis: I checked those, and then searched for 'krus' and krusader showed, but I have already enabled my repose in Adept under the system menu.06:43
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dr_willisfoodcoman:  yea.. thats a nice little way of them  doing it.. but its a little 'vague' on how it works with the other repos.06:44
mezznzt: I don't understand.06:44
nzti've got only this on Amsn cos' my wife want it all of the others cp works06:44
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foodcomandr_willis: Yeah who know exactly what repos, backports I suppose and ...........06:45
nztON a kubuntu dapper put amsn dowload skins but its impossible to paste them and use06:45
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nztthe sudo cp doesn't work on other log06:45
jorgpdo the packages in kubuntu.org have mp3 support enabled?06:46
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davidhousewhat do the first two characters of each line mean in dpkg -l? i can't find the information in the manpage for some reason06:46
visik7jorgp: what do you mena mp3 support ?06:46
ubuntuanybody here using xubuntu live cd?06:46
visik7davidhouse: status and marked06:46
foodcomanjorgp: I installed xmms alone and streamed from shoutcast.com06:46
jorgpvisik7: like amarok 1.4, will it play mp3 files06:46
visik7explained on the top06:46
visik7amarok 1.4 has a separe repo06:46
visik7and by the way amarok relay on xine06:46
mezznzt: I think I understand, so you have installed new amsn skins but can't work out how to use them?06:47
visik7so if you have xine mp3 support you can play mp306:47
robin__how can i play mp3 files with amarok ?06:47
robin__I need some package with the mp3 codec ?06:47
visik7!restricted06:47
uboturestricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats06:47
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nztthe dl skins cannot be cp to the good directory /usr/amsn/skins06:47
davidhouseah, i see. thanks visik7.06:47
robin__thx06:48
visik7!tell robin_ about restricted06:48
mindfocusI have a really basic question. How do you change the resolution of the verbose startup? I would like to configure it to where the initial verbose output is displayed at 1024X768.06:48
ng_just install libxine-extracodecs to play mp306:48
nztall others programmes skins in usr are cp with sudo but not for amsn06:48
visik7mindfocus: vga=79106:48
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SkrotFFSvisik7: Will that remove the graphical booter?06:48
dr_willismindfocus:  thats a kernel/boot option that you would set in the grub's config file. Not sure if tehres a nice gui to do it.06:48
visik7SkrotFFS: to remove graphical boot loader you need to remove splash from the line of the kernel in menu.lst06:49
mezzntz: are you getting an error message when you try to copy them?06:49
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SkrotFFSvisik7: I want higher resolution on boot and a graphical splash. Will the play nice with eachother?06:49
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gurumeditationer<stupid question>The 6.06 "desktop" live image that can install to HD, is the result of that installation equivalent to what happens with the "install" image of 5.10</stupid question>06:49
mindfocusAlright cool. Thanks.06:49
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dr_willis## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda506:49
dr_willis# defoptions=quiet splash06:49
robin_!tell robin_ about restricted06:49
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Big_Thi06:50
macdkubuntu.org down or just dead slow?06:50
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SkrotFFSmacd: Just dead slow06:51
altprsonaif my actions are going acording to plan, then iv just redid my video driver.. and now would like to do nvidia-config but that dosnt work im on kubuntu 5.106:51
TuxTechcan someone help me with a Xubuntu question?06:51
tRSSwhere can I get the latest sources.list, so that I can upgrade from breezy to dapper?06:51
macdSkrotFFS: yeah it just started to load....06:51
foodcomanEasyubuntu work in Kubuntu with no hitches?06:51
macdtRSS: http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:52
Big_Tgot an installation problem, please read the post and help, if you can: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1076892#post107689206:52
visik7dr_willis: the right way to do it is :06:52
visik7dr_willis: edit the line 66 (or near by)06:52
visik7dr_willis: it starts with # kopt=06:52
dr_willisyea. im just now realizing how Well done the update-grub 'system' they are using is.06:52
ccc_gurumeditationer: yes. i.e. both live and install on one disc.06:53
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visik7dracflamloc:  mine is # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=79106:53
visik7ops06:53
visik7dr_willis:06:53
gurumeditationerthanks, ccc_06:53
visik7dr_willis: and then update-grub06:53
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visik7ok you know what to do06:53
gurumeditationerOne last question: is the "alternative" image basically the same as 5.10 install?06:53
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dr_willisvisik7:  i think the defoptions is better.  since it dont add the extra to the 'rescue' entry.06:54
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ccc_gurumeditationer: read here: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/dapper/06:54
dr_willisbut it depends on teh exact option and what you are doing i guess06:54
visik7dr_willis: depend06:54
robin_visik7: well the page you gave me, sais I have to install libxine-extracodecs06:54
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robin_visik7: but the package is not in the repositories06:55
robin_visik7: I have universe enabled.06:55
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visik7!tell robin_  about multiverse06:55
Blippeafter logging in kde the screenresolution changes to something screwey, how do i remove that?06:55
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gurumeditationersorry to spam the room with dumb questions, ccc_, but someone told me that the live installation didn't install the same stuff as a "proper" install and I couldn't google anything specific.06:56
robin_visik7: sorry, but thank you :)06:56
dr_willisgurumeditationer:  ive not heard of any differaance with the ubuntu live/installers.06:56
dr_willisnow some other live disrto/cds do have differances06:56
gurumeditationerYeah I'm thinking the guy was full of shit06:56
dr_willislive cd's are often smaller and have less things on them when isntalled to hd.06:57
Blippegurumeditationer, the desktop cd (what used to be the live) is the "proper" cd!06:57
dr_willisBlippe:  yea - ive noticed that as well. :P06:57
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dr_willisthe live-installer is now the default installer.06:57
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gurumeditationerCool, thanks for clearing that up for me.06:58
TuxTechanybody having a problem shutting down while using Kubuntu, or Xubuntu live cd (no install) :??06:58
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altprsonakubuntu 5.1 cant get nvidia-config = command not found. where do i start fixing that?06:59
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foodcomanTuxTech: The only problem I had with Live, is locking the screen and not knowing the password.06:59
davidhousehi guys. just installed dapper, emacs isn't working. starting it from the terminal gives the error "No fonts match `MonospaceXcursor.theme: kubuntu'".06:59
davidhouseany ideas?07:00
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foodcomanTuxTech: Other than that it has been completely solid.07:00
poing_Hi there, I have been upgrading from breezy to dapper. How do I check it really worked?07:00
nztwill search by myself see U enjoy on da new rc07:00
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TuxTechthanks food...xubuntu mainly....locks up during shutdown....although i have to add that this was a beta version i was trying...still at work and hve not tried 6.06 final...ty07:01
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foodcomanTuxTech: havent load xub.... yet....Sorry07:01
TuxTechsays "system will now halt" stays there and wont shut down07:01
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TuxTechnp food...thx :)07:02
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gurumeditationerI can't download the .torrent files from www.kubuntu.org from UK, europe or US, is there a mirror?07:06
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mikedep333hey guys, I installed ubuntu dapper and then installed kubutu-desktop07:08
mikedep333but my volume control (a simple knob on a ps/2 keyboard) doesn't work in KDE07:08
mikedep333it does in gnome07:08
mikedep333any advice?07:08
dontmh3sp4wn: are you a ubuntu developer?07:08
dontmer AN ubuntu developer heh07:09
dontmaccording to !ask u should always use proper grammar when asking a question07:09
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sethmikedep333, SystemSettings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Layout07:10
sethmikedep333, if your model is there, you can select it and things will work. Otherwise you'd need to do it manually07:10
davidhousedontm: fwiw, it's "a ubuntu developer". the reason is that you pronounce it you-buntu, so it doesn't begin with a vowel _sound_.07:10
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Bazziisnt it pronounced ubuntu not you-buntu?07:11
BazziI dont recall Africans to have a you-u07:11
mikedep333awesome, it is there (HP SK-2505 internet keyboard)07:11
mikedep333seth: thanks alot07:12
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dontmdavidhouse: no, it's the fact that it precedes a vowel, not necessarily a vowel sound07:12
mikedep333(and the volume works)07:12
davidhousehmm... i suppose you could pronounce it that way. never though about that.07:12
sampandoes anyone know if i apt-upgrade from breezy to dapper if SKIM will be installed automatically? (it is not presently installed with breezy)07:12
dontmdavidhouse: consult Chicago Manual of Style via google07:12
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davidhousedontm, i don't think it is. for example, you say "half an hour", even though that doesn't begin with a vowel.07:12
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sethmikedep333, cheers07:13
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sethsampan, SKIM is a part of kubuntu-desktop07:13
Flosoftis kubuntu.org down?07:13
sethsampan, as long as you have kubuntu-desktop installed (which you should for a proper dist-upgrade), you'll get SKIM07:13
sampanseth, so the upgrade will automatically add it, then?!07:13
sampanthanks :D  that's exactly what i wanted to hear!07:14
sethFlosoft, just very slow. It's being hammered due to release :)07:14
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Flosoftok07:14
dontmare you an ubuntu developer? is correct either way07:14
dontmeven if it was by sound heh07:14
dontmso if it is by sound07:14
sampanerrr, i should have said your name in that -- thanks seth!  that's what i wanted to hear07:14
sethdontm, I always pronounce it oo-boon-too anyways ;)07:14
dontmit's still "an ubuntu..."07:14
klerfaythttp://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9812/snapshot25do.png - sun java installation is stuck; any ideas?07:14
sethsampan, no worires07:14
sethworries07:14
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dontmno matter what, it's "an ubuntu" heh07:14
sethklerfayt, it requires you to hit the OK button07:15
sethklerfayt, you can see it there in your screenshot07:15
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klerfaytseth: I hit "enter" and nothing happens07:15
Seantater_anyone here doing a dist-upgrade?07:15
sethklerfayt, you might try using Tab to select it07:15
dontmaccording to chicago manual of style, in formal writing it's by letter, in informal speech it's by sound07:15
dontmhowever, most modern writing manuals have transitioned to "all by sound"07:15
klerfaytseth: still nothing07:15
sethGrammar police... #kubuntu-offtopic, please ;)07:15
davidhousedontm, where does the CMS say that?07:15
dontmdavidhouse: i am consulting my brother who hold a degree in English =-p07:16
dontmhe is quoting the CMS07:16
dontmer holds a degree rather heh07:16
dontmwe are looking the heath handbook now, please hold07:17
Bazzidude, relax ;)07:17
davidhousedontm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%2C_an#An07:17
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Bazziit's not that English grammar is valued a lot anyway ;)07:17
davidhousewikipedia > CMS for being current.07:17
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paperangeli need some help07:18
sethhang on klerfayt, let me check with the guy who wrote Adept07:18
paperangelhow do i install a Verizon PC574007:18
klerfaytseth: too late I quitted adept07:18
sethklerfayt, ok07:18
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sethinstall java via CLI07:18
seththen resume Adept07:19
dontmdavidhouse: i take it u dont read digg.com07:19
sethimo07:19
davidhousedontm, no, why?07:19
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h3sp4wndontm: Not a ubuntu developer (Just used linux for quite a long time only been using debian based stuff for maybe six months)07:19
sethdontm, davidhouse... please take the grammar discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic -- thank you07:19
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dontmdavidhouse: just yesterday there was an aritcle about a judge who used wiki as a source in the apple case and said and i quote "this is a practice that earns students across the nation a F"07:19
dontmheh07:19
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klerfaytseth:  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:20
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sethklerfayt, an adept process is probably still running07:20
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sethklerfayt, sudo killall adept-updater07:20
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sorush20hi guys07:20
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johannesWhat can I do about the error "C compiler cannot create executables"?07:21
klerfaytseth: hmm sudo apt-get update gives me: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.07:21
sethklerfayt, yep07:22
sethklerfayt, sudo dpkg --configure -a07:22
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jarlathIs it possible to install a deb without messing without sources?07:22
davidhousedontm, well, i just think you'd sound very odd indeed saying "an United", etc. anyway, this is OT as seth pointed out. </rant> :)07:22
seththanks ;)07:22
sethany day but release day07:23
sethhehe07:23
dontmdavidhouse: dont piss off the ops, either PM me or join #kubuntu-offtopic07:23
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dr_willisjarlath: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb    (IF you got all teh dependencies  set up)07:23
jarlathThanks dr_willis07:23
dontmdavidhouse: check ur msgs, i sent you what scott foresman says (both right)07:23
sorush20hi guys according to my adept there are 1700 packages that need to upgrade.. is there any way that I can get adept to upgrade 10 at a time to avoid corruption and errors.. becuase this have happend to me before?07:23
robin_is kubuntu more popular than ubuntu, or does ubuntu have bigger servers running their site :)07:23
davidhousedontm, check your own.07:23
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dontmdavidhouse: heh ok yeah this is stupid07:24
dontmlol07:24
davidhousehehe07:24
dontmman this dapper upgrade is taking forever07:24
dr_willisrobin_ they are basicially identical. :P just flipsides of the same coin. I normally install ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop first thing07:24
dontmhopefully that's a good thing07:24
dontmim getting 200KBps too07:24
Sweet_katehey guys can i gently suggest me a shoutcast radio winamp-like player?07:24
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evil-doerive got about 5 mins to go07:25
davidhousestarting it from the terminal gives the error "No fonts match `MonospaceXcursor.theme: kubuntu'".07:25
dontmdavidhouse: did u run install kubuntu-desktop after dist-upgrade?07:25
dontmdavidhouse: and no X server problems?07:25
davidhouseno X server problems.07:25
dontmvery cool07:25
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dontmok well ill have to finish this after work, im late now, wow im a nerd lol07:25
dontmsee ya all07:25
robin_dr_willis: I meant the internet server :), kubuntu.org is slower than ubuntu.org :D07:26
dontmbeing late for work cuz of dapper wow lol07:26
dr_willisrobin_ ahh. :P never noticed.07:26
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mikedep333using ubuntu dapper and running kde, is there a KDE way to install debs by selecting them in konqueror?07:26
sorush20does a desktop computer need acpic?07:27
nico8481is it possible to export you kmail mailbox to some file for further importation (after system reinstallation for example)?07:27
mikedep333I know about using gdebi-gtk to open them07:27
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robin_anyone already running amarok 1.4 on dapper ?07:27
jrk29Did someone stop being able to see videos with w32 codecs with xine in dapper?07:28
tsdgeosme07:28
jrk29Or was it only me? :-)07:28
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pipitasKubuntu suxxx when it comes to printing... Someon totally managed to spoil it altogether when it comes to using the new CUPS-1.2.0 features. It doesnt even print to a CUPS-1.1.x server that shares its printers!!! (I assume Kubuntu inherited most of the suckiness from Ubuntu or even Debian default configs, but for users this still sucks heavily...)   :-|07:30
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Hard_WiredDoes anyone know where to download print drivers from for unlisted models?07:33
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Seantater_Hard_Wired: nope-- I'm not sure you can07:34
pppoe_dudeHard_Wired: what kind of printer?07:34
FlosoftRiddell: Can you check your PM?07:35
klerfaytguess I was wrong that I need "java sun" to get google video play in konqueror (make the black arrow in controls to show video zoom levels)07:35
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davidhouseanyone got any ideas about my emacs problem?07:36
sethklerfayt, nope, that's Flash07:36
davidhousestarting it from the terminal gives the error "No fonts match `MonospaceXcursor.theme: kubuntu'".07:36
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sethdavidhouse, uh oh, 'tis a bug. Let me track down where to change that07:36
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seththere should be a new line between Monospace and Xcursor.theme07:37
davidhouseaha07:37
klerfaytseth: I got flash installed manually and videos play, but that "black arrow" in video contols doesn't show me the list of zoom levels07:37
davidhouseseth, occurs with both the emacs21 and emacs21-gtk-snapshot packages. doesn't occur with the emacs-nox ones though.07:37
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macdis there any reason kcontrol and KDE system settings would not show the same settings...07:37
Flosoftcan someone add my mirror to the Kubuntu Website? I updated the files in a sec..07:37
sethFlosoft, what's the deb URL?07:38
Flosoftseth: Are you an Kubuntu Admin?07:38
Flosoftnormally I submit the info to ridell no?07:38
sethFlosoft, yeah, Riddell would be fine07:39
bachstudiesdapper rocks!07:39
Flosoftbut he isn't here here ?07:39
Flosofthe doesn't awnser07:39
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brandon_Riddell's got kde 3.5.3 out today it seems07:42
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evil-doerits all upgraded and seems to have booted fine07:45
evil-doerwhy cant suse be this easy07:46
davidhouseevil-doer: +1 on that. :)07:46
Phleagorsuse sucks07:46
evil-doeri have suse on my laptop and i havent tried upgrading yet because theres about 1000 items its complaining about07:46
evil-doeryoud think 10.0 to 10.1 wouldnt be such a hassle07:47
evil-doerand i hardly installed that much on top of default :|07:47
Phleagorevil-doer: please don't do it07:48
Phleagornothing will work after the update07:48
evil-doerseriously?07:48
Kronozevil-doer, 10.1 is very different07:48
Phleagori had 8.2 as my first distri07:48
evil-doersigh07:48
Phleagorand i updated it07:48
Phleagornothing worked07:48
Phleagori reinstalled it07:48
Phleagorand updated again07:48
Phleagornothing worked07:48
Phleagor...07:48
andreasc89dapper drake is out07:48
Kronozit wants to have a seperate /home + new package manager rug/zmd thing + more gnome orientated07:49
dergringohow do I activate 3d acceleration? I got an ati mobility radeon m300.07:51
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evil-doeri wanna put kubuntu on my laptop now. but im not sure how id do that. its dual booting windows/suse at the moment07:52
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davidhouseevil-doer: remove the suse partition. :)07:53
thompayou will have to shrink the windows partition, or install on  suse07:53
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evil-doerwhat about the boot loader etc07:53
h3sp4wnevil-doer: Just remove the windows partition suse will be fine07:53
sampanare the servers being hammered by people downloading/upgrading?  kinda wanting to upgrade, but don't want the download to take 4 days if the servers are being beaten into submission ;)07:53
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sethsampan, I got 180KB doing the KDE 3.5.2 -> 3.5.3 dance07:55
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thompasampan: mines downlaoding fine07:55
thompasampan:http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/dapper/kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso07:56
thompa23 minutes for complete download07:56
sampanthanks seth and thompa :)  might have to take the plunge with the dist-upgrade thing instead of the iso07:56
MetaMorfoziSanybody can tell me a stopper program?07:57
MetaMorfoziSsimple start stop that i need07:57
thompathe distrowatch links are too slow right now07:57
sethMetaMorfoziS, what are you wanting to stop?07:58
sethMetaMorfoziS, you want to shutdown the computer?07:58
MetaMorfoziSnono07:58
MetaMorfoziSsimple start stop07:58
MetaMorfoziSstopwatch07:58
MetaMorfoziSnot kshutdown07:58
sethoh07:58
MetaMorfoziS:)07:58
sethstopwatch07:58
seth:)07:58
MetaMorfoziSin#ubuntu sb advised teatimer07:59
MetaMorfoziSi find it... but if you can better07:59
MetaMorfoziS...07:59
MetaMorfoziS:D07:59
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Kronozsleep 30; echo 30 seconds! :p07:59
MetaMorfoziS:D08:00
MetaMorfoziSput a turtle in the window for a half hour, and when you get it back it's usually 30minutes!:D08:00
pipitasRiddell: ping08:00
KronozMetaMorfoziS, :| lol08:00
sethKArm, maybe, MetaMorfoziS ? but if you want simple simple, teatimer is probably it08:01
foodcomanKronoz: will be your stopwatch.08:01
pipitasRiddell: Who's the CUPS packager for K/Ubuntu? Is s/he here?08:01
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Kronozfoodcoman, whats thay?08:02
Kronozs/thay/that08:02
chakiea watch...08:03
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foodcomanKronoz: MetaMorfoziS looking for stopwatch.  You nick sounds like Chronos almost.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronos08:03
Flosofthey ... who has access to update the Kubuntu Website? Can you PM me please? I got parts of my mirrors setup08:03
MetaMorfoziS:D08:03
Kronozfoodcoman, oh i see lol08:04
foodcomanKronoz: Sorry, I am wired abit different than most.08:04
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thompalame ubuntu review on tux machines08:06
thompathe guys got like 30 hdas he has mounted, totally un-user-normal08:07
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foodcomanhttp://unapark6.com/?p=123508:09
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sajhi guys, gow do i get KDE on my gnome dapper?08:10
FlosoftRiddell: are you there?08:10
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jpatrickFlosoft: i think he's gone to the pub08:10
macdsaj, 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-dekstop'08:11
Flosoftok ..08:11
macdyes today is a day to celelbrate :)08:11
Flosoftjpatrick: Do you have access to the Kubuntu Website?08:11
Flosoftto add mirrors?08:11
jpatrickNo08:11
Flosoftdamn08:11
Flosoftwho else has?08:11
jpatrickafaik him08:11
Flosoftno one else?08:11
jpatrickNot that I know of08:12
sajmacd: thnx buddy08:12
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jpatrickFlosoft: site times-out :(08:12
macdsaj: it will take a while so grab a beer and wait :)08:12
robin_f08:12
robin_test08:12
macdjpatrick: oh yeah servers getting hammered08:12
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sajmacd: :( what will it update? will it just install KDE or does it install any thing else aswell?08:13
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macdit will install the kubuntu desktop, meaning kde and all of its programs.08:13
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soonHi there folks ... Im having trouble with Nvidia drivers .. anyone care to help out? ... I've adept-installed: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-amd64-generic.nividia-legacy and nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-settings and nvidia-kernel-common (I have a Nvidia Geforce 6600 card)08:15
sajmacd: kk thnx alot for the help, i gtg now much:D :P so ALLAH Hafiz (GOD TAKE CAE OF YOU)08:15
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soonNow when I try glxgears I get: Error: Could not open /dev/nvidiactl because the permissions are too resticitive.08:15
soon(I can reboot and get X running though)08:16
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yobahello08:23
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dickhall_anyone here use bzr-NG?08:23
yobano08:23
dickhall_yoba: thanks for answering for the group ;)08:23
robotgeekdickhall_: its very unlikely that anyone here will know about bazaar08:24
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yobayour welcome08:24
dickhall_well, there's 272 people here, which is much more than #kubuntu-devel, and no one's answering over there08:24
JavaGeekcongratulations on Dapper release, btw08:25
dickhall_and it's a kubuntu/kde project I'm asking about, so it seems on-topic08:25
robotgeekdickhall_: yeah, its not offtopic, i'm just suggesting that it might be better to ask someone there :)08:25
dickhall_I did ask someone there, and there's no response ;)08:25
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DustyDingohi08:26
yobahi08:26
iNikuwhoa, the level of traffic in #ubuntu is giving me a headache08:26
JavaGeeki avoid those channels like the plague :)08:26
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macdwe should hope the traffic in #kubuntu should be so high.....08:27
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JavaGeekwell, kubuntu doesn't require as much help as ubuntu08:28
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NthDegreelol08:29
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macdI woulndt say that, Id say is adoption rate isnt as high08:29
NthDegreeGNOME is easier than KDE, but KDE has more customisability08:29
laiahi all08:29
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macdhas anyone noticed that kcontrol and kde system settings dont show the same settings? as in mismatched settings.08:30
NthDegreeI use both ubuntu and kubuntu08:30
laiai try to burning a cd on kubuntu on powerpc g3 new world and i dont get success08:30
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JavaGeekwell, when I have a trouble with kubuntu, I usually check in Ubuntu's Forum first08:30
laiaanyone can help me now?08:30
NthDegreelaia: you using k3b as your software08:31
macdlaia: more information needed, as in what errors are you getting, and what are you using to burn with?08:31
JavaGeekusually the problem is not kde/gnome related08:31
dickhall_and what's your favourite colour?08:31
macdkde bule of course :P08:31
macdblue*08:31
NthDegreelaia: give us all the information relation to the problem08:31
NthDegreein*08:31
jorgpheh, that is normal traffic for #gentoo08:31
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NthDegreegentoo was well annoying08:32
dickhall_with gentoo, you need the help ;)08:32
NthDegreekde won't compile08:32
NthDegreeon gentoo lol08:32
macdyes it was in thier stable repos :P08:32
NthDegreeX wouldn't work on FreeBSD08:32
JavaGeekbefore kubuntu I was using gentoo on a celeron 600MHz laptop. upgrading anything took *days*08:32
jorgpkde compiles fine for me on gentoo08:33
NthDegreeubuntu and kubuntu have been the best OSes for me08:33
NthDegreeI even compile on them08:33
macdwell of course it compiles everything :P, and theres a argument to be said for that extra thousandth of a second improvement in speed08:33
macd<sarcasm>08:33
laiaI have a scisi CDD 3600 and i start to use k3b. The errors are: the Burning Device is showed on k3b!08:33
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dickhall_gentoo was the first linux I dove into, and it was good, kinda forced me to learn a bunch of stuff08:34
laiaSorry! The Device is NOT showed08:34
macdlaia: that doesnt sound like a(n) error that sounds like its informing you the burner was found...08:34
macdohh, heh08:34
NthDegreelaia: that means k3b probably hates your burner08:34
NthDegreeor you have no CD in it08:34
macdlaia, try this: alt+f2  then type  'kdesu k3b'08:34
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macdI bet k3b setup was never run...08:34
jorgpthe thing with gentoo is its high maintenance, (k)ubuntu is not08:34
JavaGeeklaia: what OS are you using on that powerpc?08:35
NthDegreejorgp: nothing compared to OpenBSD08:35
laiaJavaGeek: Kubuntu08:35
jorgpNthDegree: never run that distro, I've got freebsd running on a server though08:35
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jorgpbut im getting ready to change it over to ubuntu08:36
NthDegreejorgp: OpenBSD is great if you use packages08:36
NthDegreebut nothing else except the packages work08:36
NthDegreemost of the ports suck on amd6408:36
jorgpi dont have an amd64 yet, so to date I have been spared all the amd64 pain08:37
NthDegreejorgp: ubuntu amd64 is great08:37
gili have a toshiba m40x....i cant for the life of me get the Card reader to pick up an inserted card08:37
NthDegreegentoo amd64 and openbsd amd64 suck ass08:37
gilwho can help with this08:37
NthDegreei hope fedora amd64 works tho08:38
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NthDegreei need a high security linux to contain windows08:38
NthDegreesince I don't trust windows08:38
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macdNthDegree: might I recommnd solaris and utilizing solaris zones....08:39
h3sp4wnNthDegree: Don't run it then08:39
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jorgpNthDegree: last fedora I used was fc2, which I dont care for rpm based distros, so I wont use them again08:39
macdSolaris + Xen = sweetness08:39
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h3sp4wnYou can use trusted solaris if you are really paranoid08:39
gilhas anyone gotten the 6in1 built in card reader to work in dapper?08:39
NthDegreejorgp:  well fedora has excellent security, SElinux, PIE and RSBAC I think08:39
laiamacd: I start k3b with root, but the device donsent apear!08:40
macdlaia: have you ru k3b setup?08:40
NthDegreegil:  I have a 9 in 1 and it works08:40
jorgpNthDegree: so does ubuntu08:40
laiamacd: no! How I try this?08:40
macdSElinux secure? hah! anything the NSA produced...08:40
gilNthDegree:is it a built in laptop reader08:40
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NthDegreegil: mine is a built-in reader (not a laptop though)08:41
NthDegreejorgp: does it? that's weird where is the SElinux settings etc.08:41
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gilNthDegree:how did you set it up08:41
JavaGeekmacd: as long as there's a source to it, i don't see why not08:41
NthDegreegil:  I didn't it just works08:41
macdJavaGeek: your going ot audit all that code :P08:42
gilol08:42
gil*ok08:42
NthDegreemacd:  if there was a backdoor it would have been spotted08:42
macdlaia: its in one of k3b's menus,08:42
macdNthDegree: I guess you dont remember the backdoor in the ATT C compiler that existed for 9 years :P08:43
JavaGeekmacd: sure, why not :)08:43
macdjust because its heavily used doesnt mena anyone actualy looks...08:43
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laiaroot@lbmsala4c:/home/laia# cdrecord -scanbus08:44
laiaCdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a01 (powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Joerg Schilling08:44
laia(...)08:44
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laiacdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.12-10-powerpc08:44
laiacdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.08:44
JavaGeekmacd: i read somewhere why it was in NSA's best interest to be honest about these things08:44
laia(...)08:44
laiacdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.08:44
laiacdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'.08:44
laiacdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.08:44
laiacdrecord:08:44
laiacdrecord: For more information, install the cdrtools-doc08:44
laiacdrecord: package and read /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup .08:44
laiaroot@lbmsala4c:/home/laia#08:44
macdI dont think anything honest is in the NSA's best intrest08:44
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JavaGeekmacd: like, if someone *ever* found something hidden, it would discredit *all* of NSA's work08:45
JavaGeekor something like that08:45
macdJavaGeek: you think theyre concenred with that after the information they provided the govt with i Iraq?08:46
rdaleI've got stuck upgrading from breezy to dapper. I had to interrupt adept because I was using too much bandwidth at work, and when I restarted it later it seems to have screwed up my installation.08:46
macdlol, if they dont care what people think about that, they surely dont care about some code...08:46
macdbut maybee this is best suited for #kubuntu-offtopic08:46
rdalewhat commands do I have to give 'apt-get' to force it to upgrade my machine to dapper?08:47
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macdrdale: sudo update-manager -f works well.08:48
Snake[Away] Wow 1000 people in #ubuntu08:48
Snake[Away] crazy.08:48
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rdaleok, thanks I'll try that08:48
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connhi, is it possible to rename partition numbers? e.g., rename hda7 to hda2 (providing hda2 doesn't already exist)?08:49
SnakeHappy dapper day all08:49
jorgpconn: why?08:50
mrfishhathappy dapper day snake08:50
Snake:)08:50
mrfishhattoday i shall be burning install disks for a few hours08:50
mrfishhatthen an install party at the lug08:50
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Snakemrfishhat: I got shipits on the way, im gonna pass them out at the library08:50
connjorgp: because the livecd installer has renamed my partition from hda3 to hda4, 5, and 6 (from reinstalls)08:50
mrfishhati have shipits to08:51
mrfishhatbut the lug members wont wait08:51
Snakehehe08:51
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h3sp4wnmrfishhat: Why not just mirror the archive and netboot all the installations08:51
mrfishhatthe shipits are for people at the mall08:51
mrfishhath3sp4wn: the lug meets at a pizza joint08:52
gilsterso anyone want to help me with built in card reader on a toshiba m4008:52
h3sp4wnmrfishhat: And you don't have switches / wireless ?08:52
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mrfishhath3sp4wn: true08:52
mrfishhath3sp4wn: but they prefer it this way08:53
gilsterplease anyone....card reader setup? toshiba m40x08:55
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mrfishhatit doesnt just work?08:57
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mrfishhatmy card reader works fine when you just plug it in08:57
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dergringowhere do I find the package "gnome-window-decorator" ?08:59
SkrotFFSdergringo: For Compiz/XGl?08:59
heinkel_111hi! anybody knows where to find info about troubleshooting local printer? It is "stopped" and I have problem getting it to "start"09:00
SkrotFFSIn that case it's called "compiz-gnome"09:00
Hard_WiredWhat does it mean when a USB pen drive is listed in lsusb but not mounted?09:01
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dergringoSkrotFFS: thank you. Do you know what compiz-"vanilla" is?09:01
laiaNthDegree: I guess that I found the problem! in my fstab, the burning device was: /dev/scd0 /media/crom1 ... If i try mount /media/cdrom1, I get a message: the device scd0 dosent exist09:01
Seantater_Hard_Wired: that you need to mount it :-P09:02
SkrotFFSdergringo: No idea09:02
Hard_WiredKubuntu automounts everything else09:02
laiaNthDegree: any clue?!09:02
Hard_Wiredand I've tried doing it through the FSTAb file but it didn't work09:02
Seantater_Hard_Wired: Maybe it's been formatted ntfs or something09:02
Hard_WiredI have no way of knowing09:03
Seantater_Hard_Wired: what /dev is it?09:03
Hard_Wiredmark@ubuntu:~$ lsusb09:03
Hard_WiredBus 003 Device 004: ID 0781:1234 SanDisk Corp.09:03
Hard_WiredI've tried mounting it on sda1 in FSTAB but it didn't see it09:04
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Seantater_Hard_Wired: okay -- try this: mkdir /media/penDrive ; mount -t auto /dev/sdd /media/penDrive09:04
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Hard_Wiredmkdir: cannot create directory `/media/penDrive': File exists09:05
Hard_Wiredmount: you must specify the filesystem type09:05
Hard_Wiredmark@ubuntu:~$09:05
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uwohi all - does anyone know how i could get sys tray into 2 rows on normal size - have a feeling it was that way before upgrade to kde 3.5.3 (could be sth else, but it is this time) - it now goes into 2 rows only on large09:05
JavaGeekpmount /dev/sd<whatever letter corresponds to the drive>109:06
Hard_WiredError: device /dev/sda1 does not exist09:06
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Seantater_Hard_Wired: okay -- how about mount -t vfat /dev/sdd1 /media/penDrive09:06
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JavaGeekHard_Wired: dmesg | grep SanDisk09:07
DustyDingohm, is there a non graphical (no kde) installation for kubuntu?09:07
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Seantater_DustyDingo: Sure -- server install09:07
DustyDingoi mean, there is not such an item, when i run the install cd nd grub appears09:07
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Hard_Wiredmount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist09:08
Seantater_DustyDingo: It's a specific CD from the ubuntu download page09:08
Hard_Wiredthe grep command just returns me to the prompt09:08
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Seantater_DustyDingo: when you take away gnome/kde, ubuntu/kubuntu are exactly alike -- so there is only one 'server install' cd09:08
DustyDingowell, i am trying to install since halph an hour09:08
JavaGeekHard_Wired: dmesg | grep usb09:09
DustyDingoand even gentoo was easier, i simply don't get along eith it ;)09:09
Hard_Wired[4294673.973000]  usbcore: registered new driver usbfs09:09
Hard_Wired[4294673.974000]  usbcore: registered new driver hub09:09
Hard_Wired[4294960.899000]  usb 3-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 209:09
Hard_Wired[4295351.802000]  usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 209:10
Hard_Wired[4295352.069000]  drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x043D pid 0x007809:10
Hard_Wired[4295352.069000]  usbcore: registered new driver usblp09:10
Hard_Wired[4295352.069000]  drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver09:10
Hard_Wired[4300459.949000]  usb 3-5: USB disconnect, address 209:10
Hard_Wired[4301442.905000]  usb 3-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 409:10
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Hard_WiredYou asked for it!09:10
serenityhiho09:10
Seantater_!paste09:10
DustyDingoSeantater_: hm, so with this cd, which i have now, i can only choos the graphical installation?09:10
ubotuPlease do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 09:10
Hard_Wireddidn't know about that site - thanks!09:10
Seantater_DustyDingo: I think you can choose server at bootup -- but you again may not -- I would go ahead and download the server cd.09:10
JavaGeekHard_Wired: i don't think your pen is being recognized09:11
Seantater_DustyDingo: It's here --> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso09:11
serenityi want to help kubuntu, but how? I'm not good in coding and beta-testing is nothing really for me09:11
Hard_Wiredno kidding09:11
Seantater_serenity: how about spreading the word about ubuntu09:11
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serenitySeantater: i do this all the time09:12
Seantater_serenity: then keep doing that09:12
serenitySeantater: but i want to do more09:12
Seantater_serenity: Python is not hrad to learn if you put your mind to it09:12
JavaGeekserenity: get some cd's and distribute them to your friends and family09:12
JavaGeekserenity: or to the nearest public library09:12
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JacciIs it possible to "lock" the disks that contain windows files so that i can't mess things up by mistake?09:13
serenityi started with python, but don't have an idea what to code. It's easier to learn for me with a concrete project09:13
DustyDingoSeantater_: well, when you are not good at coding at all, also python won't help him09:13
SnakePython <309:14
SnakePHP = <3 <3 <309:14
charlottehey im new to kubuntu and i cant get it to recognise my sound card09:14
serenityDustyDingo: not good, because i begun just 2 weeks ago09:14
Seantater_what is <3?09:14
Hard_Wiredyou don't have write access to NTFS partitions by default09:14
SnakeSeantater_: a heart (as in love)09:14
Hard_Wiredshould be no need to lock them09:14
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JavaGeekJava = <3 ^ 809:16
Jaccithanks, that's just what i needed to know09:16
Snakeew java...09:16
SnakeJavaGeek: in my experience, its slow and bulgy09:16
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serenitywhat can be an interesting programm to begin with?09:17
JavaGeekSnake: no much experience then :)09:17
uwocan nobody tell me if it is possible to set the number of rows for sys tray (other than resizing the panel)?09:17
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SnakeJavaGeek: Heh, well its the only thing that crashed my firefox and laggs my PC to a crawl (mainly frostwire)09:17
ubuntu_greetings everybody09:17
JavaGeekSnake: currently, or before dapper?09:18
JavaGeekgreetings, ubuntu_09:18
ubuntu_anybody can help me? the uninstaller fails to start, the following output ist produced on the console: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/75179109:18
SnakeJavaGeek: currently (dapper)09:18
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Dakkar:D09:18
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Dakkybetter than ubuntu_ :D09:18
JavaGeekSnake: weird, I have no troubles with java and/or firefox09:19
Snake:-/09:19
JavaGeekSnake: are you sure Sun's java is the one installed?09:19
SnakeJavaGeek: yes09:19
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JavaGeeksun-java5-bin?09:19
SnakeJavaGeek: yea09:19
Dakkyhurm :D i didnt mean the UNinstaller but the INstaller *fg*09:20
NthDegreeJavaGeek:  I got blackdown java or w/e it's called and my firefox crashes whenever I try to load java applets09:20
JavaGeekNthDegree: get sun's java, not some cheap imitation09:20
JavaGeek:)09:20
NthDegreeJavaGeek:  sun's java has no AMD64 firefox plugin09:21
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JavaGeekah... I don't even know if they have AMD64 support09:21
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NthDegreeblackdown does09:21
NthDegreebut firefox crashes09:21
Dakkynobody has an idea?09:22
NthDegreeBlackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition <---- look on synaptic09:22
EvilIdlerTry a 32-bit Firefox and hate yourse3lf in the morning? :P09:22
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JavaGeekmmm... Sun *does* have an AMD64 version09:24
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JavaGeekbut I guess they haven't made the (k)ubuntu package yet09:24
EvilIdlerGrab that for now and set your system's Java version to be that09:25
EvilIdlerI'm sure it'll be packaged up soon enough09:25
NthDegreewell if I ever get together the right stuff for packaging then I will09:25
NthDegreeI don't want to clutter up my system though that's the only thing09:26
jorgpwhere are the cd covers and cd case artwork located?09:26
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DustyDin1ore09:27
Dakkyis there a way to isntall kubuntu without the ubiquity installer?09:28
Dakkysome ncurses gui09:28
EvilIdlerIt doesn't hurt to stick it in /usr/local. It's easy to remove later, since it's generally one directory.09:28
JavaGeekDakky: aptitude?09:29
EvilIdlerUgh, Amarok isn't playing nice with Samba shares09:29
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Dakkyhurm JavaGeek :D ubiquity is the complete ubuntu isntaller :D09:29
Dakkyi failed to isntall ubuntu itself :D09:29
JavaGeekoh :)09:30
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JavaGeeki had kubuntu installed before, just upgraded09:30
Dakkyjust started the live cd, did some xserver hacking and now the installer denies service09:30
DustyDin1ogod damn, doesn't kubuntu 6.06 features a 2.6.16 kernel?!?!?09:30
DustyDin1ocause i thought so09:30
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foodcomanAnyone know why I get this error on my laptop CDROM.  Trying to enable DMA. http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/75196509:30
JavaGeekoh, yeah.. I need to find out what happened to mmc_block kernel module on dapper09:31
DustyDin1o2.6.15 won't run on a thinkpad t60 at all09:31
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Blake7984how would i go about doing a proper fresh installation using sata hardware raid....its detecting my drives as 2 seperate drives rather than a single mirrored array09:33
macdBlake7984: well hardware raid is transparent to software, so something must be setup properly09:34
macdmust not be*09:34
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Blake7984dont know...worked fine in windows earlier today...just checked the bios raid utility and it says its a healthy mirrored array still09:34
Blake7984its detecting it as 2 scsi drives...sda and sdb09:34
macdintersting, there are some options with LVM you can look into09:34
Blake7984i tried deleting a partition on sda and committing, then checking sdb...it still existed on sdb09:34
macdI dont do much with sata raid unfourtunatly just real scsi09:35
Blake7984i definitely am confused here...ive never seen any OS or anything recognize hardware raid as anything other than a single drive09:35
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macdBlake7984: I'd bet theres a option you can pass to the installer09:35
macdsurfed the forums yet?09:36
Blake7984i tried some searching for "raid" earlier but got nothing useful yet, about to look more now09:36
macdyeah, Im just hittig them now09:36
Blake7984im wondering if i should be using the livecd like i have here, or if i should have gotten that alternate installer09:37
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macdthe alternate installer just contains some extra stuff, but I dont think it would make the difference to detect raid..09:37
Blake7984at least ubuntuforums.org seems to work now...earlier it was taking 30-45 secs to load a page, if it loaded at all09:37
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macdyeah #ubuntu has 1000 users in it09:38
Blake7984im also not sure how its detecting the drives...as if its bypassing the raid....surprising09:38
macddapper went stable so everyones slamming the servers09:38
EvilIdlerI wouldn't call it stable yet, since the kernel still won't boot on my system :/09:38
Blake7984hehe yep...and im one of them :)09:38
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macdEvilIdler: well thats one out of thousands :P09:39
macdand we know thinkpads are finicky09:39
chavo1 out of thousands == stable09:39
EvilIdlerThere are more bug reports than just mine about the problem, though ;)09:39
Blake7984using nforce4 chipset/raid controller btw09:40
Blake7984and amd64 version09:40
macdstill a small portion of bugs on some systems can't hold up the release, look at windows :P09:40
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EvilIdler"It builds, we ship it"09:40
EvilIdlerI just wish there would be a kernel released that had, y'know, ATA drivers to detect my harddrives09:41
Blake7984hmm, reading a post about raid 0 right now....im raid 1...but hopefully it might help09:41
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macdEvilIdler: I believe there are options you can pass to init09:42
EvilIdlermacd: Yes, I've tried all of them. No initrd found, no matter what, as there are no devices at all09:42
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Infectohello09:45
bibiphoquehi09:45
Infectocan some one help me with resuming a laptop from suspend to ram09:45
Infectomy screen dont wont to wake up09:45
Infectoand for that09:45
Infecto/etc/acpi/resume.d/72-acpi-pain.sh: line 23: echo: write error: Exec format error09:45
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kubuntu_testerhello folks09:46
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shadow_milWhere is the startup scripts in kubuntu?09:46
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texjoachimhi!09:47
kubuntu_testerI have a problem with the last version of kubuntu09:47
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texjoachimwhy am I unable to mount my cf cards via the usb reader after the update to dapper drake?09:47
Blake7984guess i'll see if #ubuntu has anyone using sata raid...forums dont seem to have much here09:47
kubuntu_testerthe device name of a disk in "storage media" folder is NULL09:47
kubuntu_testerhow to change it?09:47
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kubuntu_testernobody can help me?09:49
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kubuntu_testerhere a screenshot: http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot8ae.png09:51
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kubuntu_testerthe partition is a fat3209:54
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shadow_milWhere is the boot script?09:54
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McScruffhi, installed kubntu, got all my codecs, installed ndiswraper, added "ndiswrapper" so it starts on boot, rebooted and it wont load u09:56
McScruff*up09:56
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iNikuMcScruff: did you configure ndiswrapper?09:58
McScruffyes09:58
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iNikuMcScruff: ndiswrapper -l shows your windows driver?09:58
McScruffyes09:59
iNikuwhich NIC?09:59
McScruffbroadcom :)09:59
mookubuntu_tester, try setting al label for /dev/sda2, unmount the volume first and then try sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda2 -n yourdisklabel09:59
iNikuMcScruff: ahh09:59
iNikulsmod | grep bcm09:59
McScruffbut i have had it working under ubuntu before09:59
McScruffi also blacklisted bcm43xx10:00
iNikuMcScruff: breezy?10:00
kubuntu_testerthanks mooI will try10:00
McScruffdapper beta10:00
iNikuhmm10:00
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McScruffoo, i could run a dmesg10:00
iNikuso you're sure you don't have bcm43xx loaded?10:00
iNikulsmod doesn't show it?10:00
loadcan I use synaptec to update to dapper rather than using adept without any problems?10:00
McScrufferm with lsmod it loads alot and i cant see whats at the top of the list10:00
McScruffim on command line atm10:01
iNikuMcScruff: lsmod | grep bcm10:01
Sho_Is there a how-to somewhere on how to get back the default Konqueror menu bar?10:01
iNikuMcScruff: does it show anything?10:01
McScruffiNiku . yes10:01
Infectochow to reinstal packages including config files10:02
McScruffit shows bcm43xx10:02
McScruffsoftmac10:02
iNikuwell, that means it's loaded10:02
iNikuand it shouldn't be10:02
McScruffieee8021110:02
iNikuMcScruff: how did you blacklist it?10:02
McScruffiNiku . opened the blacklist test file and typed in bcm43xx10:02
McScruffim gonna check for typos10:02
iNikutest file?10:03
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McScruffwhats kde's command line text editer?10:03
McScruffits not nano :(10:03
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iNikuum, text mode editors have nothing to do with kde... kate is a kde editor10:04
McScruffwait, i spelt nano wrong10:04
McScruffdamn typos10:04
abloylasHi guys! Just got a strange error message after a clean install of kubuntu, trying to run Automatix. Have you seen the following:10:04
iNikushow me the line you added in the blacklist file10:04
kubuntu_testermoo: I cant set volume label10:04
kubuntu_tester:-?10:04
abloylasor kphotoalbum, adept, and kaffine10:04
EvilIdlerabloylas: There's your error right there - it's Automatix ;)10:04
abloylasX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16610:04
abloylas  Major opcode:  14410:04
abloylas  Minor opcode:  310:04
abloylas  Resource id:  0x010:04
abloylasFailed to open device10:04
EvilIdlerAutomatix will mess with your system in dangerous ways. Avoid.10:05
abloylasit doesn't seem that way10:05
shadow_milHow can I add a command for linux to use on bootup?10:05
McScruffiNiku . i think i found the problem , i put "bcm43xx" but i needed to put "blacklist bcm43xx"10:05
davidhouseMcScruff: you spelt a four-letter word wrong? :)10:05
iNikuMcScruff: indeed10:05
iNikuMcScruff: after that, if you don't want to reboot...10:05
McScruffdavidhouse, yes, hit the p so it said nanp10:05
abloylasalso associated with kphotoalbum, adept, and kaffine10:05
EvilIdlerI tend to just go for naan myself :P10:06
McScruffiNiku . i rebooted and it still didnt work10:06
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iNikuMcScruff: after fixing the blacklist file?10:06
McScruffyea10:06
iNikuMcScruff: that was a quick reboot10:06
McScruffno gui to shut down10:07
kubuntu_testermoo: http://pastebin.com/75204410:07
iNikutry lsmod | grep bcm again10:07
McScruffiNiku . nothing is showing now10:08
McScruffmaybe i need a cold boot and not just a reboot?10:08
iNikuMcScruff: okay, lsmod | grep ndis then?10:08
iNikuMcScruff: no, that won't help10:08
McScruffiNiku . ndiswrapper is there10:08
iNikuwhat does ndiswrapper -l tell you?10:08
iNikudoes it say driver installed and hardware present?10:09
McScruffthat my driver and hardware are there10:09
McScruffyes10:09
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iNikuokay, does iwconfig show any interfaces with wireless extensions?10:09
McScruffyes, eth110:09
iNikuthat means ndiswrapper is working, then10:09
iNikuhow are you trying to set up the wireless connection?10:10
McScruffits my whole system that isnt booting10:10
McScruffno gui loads10:10
iNikuohhhh10:10
iNikuI thought you meant ndiswrapper wasn't loading up10:10
SkrotFFSDoes kubuntu have a install-gui like ubuntu live-cd does?10:10
aseigo_lsbyes10:11
McScruffSkrotFFS, yes10:11
SkrotFFSWow, thats neat! Is it the same program?10:11
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iNikuMcScruff: how did you "add ndiswrapper so it starts at boot"?10:11
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McScruffiNiku . i added "ndiswrapper" into /etc/modules10:12
hyperactivecrondDoes kubuntu have the livecd installation like ubuntu?10:13
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hyperactivecrondfor dapper10:13
McScruffyes me10:13
SkrotFFShyperactivecrond: I just asked. And yes, it apparently does. :)10:13
hyperactivecrondsorry i just /join'ed SkrotFFS10:13
SkrotFFSI know =)10:13
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McScruffiNiku, the only other things i did wasdownload codecs :S10:13
iNikuMcScruff: I think that shouldn't be necessary... but it shouldn't hurt either10:14
iNikuMcScruff: I think you must have done something else, too... do you get any errors when it's booting up?10:14
iNikucan you start up X and kde manually by doing a sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start?10:15
McScruffiNiku, it loads everything on the splash screen then when it is about to load the kdm it goes to a black screen10:15
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dansthi i just installed dapper drake (kubuntu/german) and it seems that it has a different encoding than previous versions. I cannot see the special characters in my home directory! (locale says: de_DE.UTF-8 as it should!)10:16
piotrekhi macd :)10:17
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macdhi, and whats going on?10:17
McScruffiNiku, xorg log saya "Fatal server error no screens found"10:17
piotreki've icc installed :)10:17
piotrekhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1035153#post103515310:17
iNikuMcScruff: well, that would explain it10:17
iNikuMcScruff: your X config is broken somehow10:18
McScruffhmmm10:18
piotreksee the bottom of this page ;)10:18
McScruffiNiku, is there a way i can fix this?10:18
iNikuguess you could try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:19
macdnice piotrek It wouldve taken months for me to figure that out :P10:19
macdId contact intel about that fix too :P10:19
loaddoing a full upgrade wants to remove a lot of packages and I can't figure out why10:20
piotrek:)10:20
loadany reason why?10:20
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McScruffwow dappe runs sooooo fast with no gui10:23
McScruff*dapper10:23
iNikuhehe10:23
McScruffrebooting :P10:23
McScruffpicked up my corect screen res tho10:23
iNikuI remember back when I had to upgrade my RAM from 8MB to 16MB so X would run faster :P10:23
McScruffi have a GUI!!!!!!! THANKYOU iNiku !!!!!10:24
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McScruffw00000000000t10:24
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iNikuyou're welcome :)10:24
_thumper_anyone know of some good cifs samples, my mount has all ownership set to 35000:root10:24
iNikuprobably working wlan, too :)10:24
iNikusince you now have the blacklist line right10:25
McScruffscreen resdidnt load right tho :(10:25
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iNiku_thumper_: you have uid=35000 in your /etc/fstab line?10:26
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_michelcomment faire fonctonner une camera logitech sus ubuntu avec gnomemeeting10:27
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bachstudiesdoes anyone know how to fine tune the monitor power saving feature? After 30 mins by monitor doesn't completely switch off like in other distros10:27
_thumper_iNiku, no I don't have uid set at all, tried it set but made no difference10:27
iNiku_thumper_: okay, strange... haven't used cifs so no idea, sorry10:28
McScruffiNiku, if xserver-xorg detected my screen res of 1280x800 is there any reason why i cant select it in my desktop10:28
_thumper_iNiku, oh well...10:28
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iNikuMcScruff: um... what do you mean you can't select it? what res is your X server running at, then?10:28
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stodgeAnyone familiar with this error when starting kontact:     "Running Kontact more than once is not supported by the Metakit backend and can cause the loss of archived articles and crashes at startup."'''10:29
McScruffiNiku, 1024x78610:29
iNikubachstudies: isn't it in the kde control panel?10:29
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McScruffyes, but the max it says there is 1024x78610:29
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iNikuMcScruff: says where?10:29
iNikuMcScruff: oh, in control panel?10:29
McScruffin the desktop config10:29
McScruff:P10:29
sampanis it bad if there's an adept/apt error on doing a dapper upgrade?  O_O10:29
tripwhat kind of error10:30
triphehe10:30
iNikuah. I was suggesting the control panel to bachstudies :)10:30
McScruffi saw after :P10:30
iNikuMcScruff: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xrog.conf?10:30
iNikuxorg.conf10:30
McScruffi can, lemmie log on from the lappy10:30
sampantrip, just one package in adept gives an error on downloading it (thus far only this one: libaudio2 1.7-3ubuntu3)10:30
McScruffiNiku, brb10:30
sampanso i'm guessing the package never even downloaded10:30
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bachstudiesiNiku: there is no option anymore in the control panel. only the system settings one10:31
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McScruffon lappy now10:31
iNikubachstudies: oh, okay, same difference :P10:31
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iNikubachstudies: you mean you have 30 minutes set in system settings -> display -> power saving but it doesn't completely turn off the monitor?10:33
tripsampan, might just be busy update servers10:33
bachstudiesiNiku: but the one in system settings only have one option : on or off. I want my LCD screen to switch off (as in windows, PCLOS etc) rather than go on standby (monitor screen still lit up)10:33
tripi was having horrible issues upgrading dapper a couple weeks ago bc of network traffic10:33
bachstudiesiNiku: exactly!10:33
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McScruffiNiku: http://pastebin.com/75209510:33
sampantrip, hope that's all it is -- the rest of the packages seem to be coming in okay though :/10:33
iNikubachstudies: okay... xset should do it10:33
iNikubachstudies: xset q to see your current settings10:34
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bachstudiesiNiku: in a terminal?10:34
iNikuyep10:34
bachstudiesiNiku: ok i can see the settings10:34
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iNikudpms enabled?10:35
bachstudiesiNiku: it says DPMS enabled buy standby, suspend and Off are all set as 180010:35
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iNikubachstudies: hmm, okay, sounds like it should work then... 1800 seconds is 30 minutes10:35
iNikunot sure why it's not working, then10:36
bachstudiesiNiku: but won't there be an issue which the three modes set to the same time?10:36
bachstudiesiNiku: is there any way to disable standby and suspend modes?10:36
iNikuMcScruff: what does xrandr tell you?10:36
iNikubachstudies: you could probably try setting them to 010:36
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bachstudiesiNiku: how?10:37
iNikuxset dpms standby 0 probably10:37
McScruff SZ:    Pixels          Physical       Refresh10:37
McScruff*0   1024 x 768    ( 302mm x 191mm )  *6010:37
McScruff 1    800 x 600    ( 302mm x 191mm )   6010:37
McScruff 2    640 x 480    ( 302mm x 191mm )   6010:37
iNikuand xset dpms suspend 010:37
tommyhi, ive just installed kubuntu dapper drake (newest version; 6.04) and i need a good sources.list file. Ive been using www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic before, but that page is down, so i dont know anymore sources list generators, anyone might help?(A)10:37
iNikuMcScruff: hmm, that's strange. xorg.conf says 1280x80010:38
iNikuMcScruff: I think a friend had the same issue and he sorted it out somehow, I juts don't know how... have you checked the ubuntu wiki?10:38
McScruffiNiku: will i have to use the dirty 915resolution hack?10:38
tommyplz anyone?10:38
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iNikuMcScruff: dunno, what's that? :)10:38
foodcomanWhere could one get Kubuntu cd label artwork?10:39
McScruffiNiku: you can make intel gfx chips run at certain res's you just stick the line in a bootup config and it will make it run at what u set10:39
iNikuugh10:39
iNikucould you pastebin your xorg.0.log too?10:40
tommysource!10:40
iNikuXorg.0.log that is10:40
tommyplz10:40
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iNikutommy: latest version is 6.06, not 6.0410:41
tommyyeah10:41
tommysorry10:41
tommyi use 6.0610:41
tommybut i need a sources.list file:(10:41
tommyand i want to generate it myself, so i get all mirrors10:41
iNikubut, dunno where you could get a good sources.list if the standard one with universe and multiverse uncommented is not enough10:41
tommyiNiku; ok10:42
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bachstudiesiNiku: ok I've tried each mode by itself (testing with 10 sec intervals) and each one just puts the monitor into standby10:43
iNikuoh... McScruff, have you tried system settings -> display -> hardware?10:44
McScruffiNiku: my xorg log = http://pastebin.com/752118 and http://pastebin.com/75212210:44
iNikuthere's a setting for image format there, 4:3 or widescreen10:44
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iNikudunno if that would help10:44
iNikuI have no idea what it actually affects10:44
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McScrufflooking for the widescreen now10:45
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iNikuMcScruff: in the monitor settings10:46
iNikuclick on configure10:46
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McScruffiNiku: im gonna restart X to rest10:46
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McScruffiNiku: how do i just resrt X10:47
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jorgpisn't https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDRipping a little bit dated, talking about gstreamer-0.8 instead of 0.1010:47
iNikuif that doesn't help, you could perhaps even try forcing a "generic flat panel 1280x800" display type in there10:47
iNikuctrl-alt-backspace will kill X10:48
iNikuand kdm will then restart it10:48
BASEmanwhat contains the DVD compared to the CD?10:49
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RogueJediXIs Crystal window decoration based on Vista by any chance?10:52
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi there.. i have the usual problem with skype.. using oss it get the /dev/dsp resource busy and it has problems releasing it after it finishes.. is there a way to force the release of a resource, like in this case the audio output device?10:53
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Tallia1Kubuntuobviously without having to turn off skype everytime...10:54
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mirspcmTallia1Kubuntu: fuser -k /dev/dsp will kill anything useing /dev/dsp10:54
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Tallia1Kubuntuthat will turn off skype though10:54
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mirspcmTallia1Kubuntu: but you have to know skype handle audio like sh** so it won't release dsp after a call or something10:55
shadow_milWhere can I add a command that will run before Xserver starts10:55
Tallia1Kubuntumirspcm: so you know this problem perfectly10:55
Tallia1Kubuntushadow_mil: in the /etc/rc?.d10:55
mirspcmTallia1Kubuntu: and the skype team did ensure it is the real dsp and not a wrapper so such things like arts mapper won't work10:55
Tallia1Kubuntui see, however i don't like arts a lots10:56
Tallia1Kubuntuit's very slow..10:56
shadow_milTallia1Kubuntu: I am not sure which file to add it in, or where10:56
mirspcmTallia1Kubuntu: trust me on this : I spend sooo much time on this probleme (with f*ck** clients not willing to use something else)10:56
mirspcmTallia1Kubuntu: nobody likes arts but at list you could use some other sound program at the same time10:56
Tallia1Kubuntumirspcm: i see... since you spent so much time what did you choose for audio settings? like engine and so on10:57
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mirspcmTallia1Kubuntu: plain oss, no other sound program running on system10:57
iNikushadow_mil: /etc/rc.local10:57
Tallia1Kubuntumirspcm: yeah, you are right.. but where do you select arts? from kcontrol i can't.. there's alsa esd oss autodetect..10:57
iNikuprobably10:57
mirspcmTallia1Kubuntu: skype restarting 16x a day 'cause of I/O problems10:57
shadow_milWhat run level does Xserver start in kubuntu?10:57
shadow_milok10:57
Tallia1KubuntuiNiku: mhh?10:57
iNikushadow_mil: which command do you want to run?10:57
mirspcmTallia1Kubuntu: it's not something you select, it's more like a hack useing artsdsp -m /usr/bin/skype command10:58
mirspcmtailbut it doesn't work because skype detects the wrapper and gets around it.10:58
iNikudoes skype work with aoss?10:58
mirspcmTallia1Kubuntu: it s*cks10:58
jorgpanyone know where the kubuntu cd install labels can be found?10:58
shadow_mil   /usr/bin/915resolution 45 1024 76810:58
mirspcmskyype works with OSS (alsa emulation or the real one doesn't matter) and it just grabs the real dsp and doesn't give up10:59
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iNikumirspcm: if it works with aoss, you can use dmix or hw mixing10:59
mirspcmiNiku: I thought too.. but didn't seem to work11:00
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mirspcmiNiku: I admit I just gave up11:00
Tallia1Kubuntuso arts is a layer over oss or alsa or whatever else..?11:00
shadow_milwhat init does xsever start in kubuntu?11:00
mirspcmiNiku: maybe it does work now with alsa mixer11:00
Tallia1Kubuntushadow_mil: boh!! :)11:00
iNikumirspcm: hmm, strange... should give that a try at some point11:00
mirspcmTallia1Kubuntu: arts is an old kde sound server abover alsa/oss11:01
Tallia1Kubuntux11-common? xorg-common?11:01
iNikushadow_mil: 2, 3, 4 and 511:01
shadow_milok...11:01
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mirspcmwell I must leave11:01
Tallia1Kubuntukdm?11:01
mirspcmsee ya !11:01
Tallia1Kubuntuok see ya11:01
iNikushadow_mil: if you were asking about run levels?11:01
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iNikuthe init script is /etc/init.d/kdm11:02
shadow_milok11:02
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Tallia1KubuntuiNiku: i don't have /etc/rc.local11:02
iNikuTallia1Kubuntu: maybe it's not there by default anymore11:02
iNikubut it does work11:02
shadow_milbrb11:03
Tallia1Kubuntuso if you create that folder it will work?11:03
iNikufile, not folder11:03
Tallia1Kubuntuthose will be executed as root anyway right?11:03
iNikuyep11:03
iNikuit's just one script, /etc/rc.local11:03
Tallia1Kubuntuahah, i saw it now :)11:03
DrBairalmost all the the plugsin in dvdrip are non-functional... any ideas?11:04
Tallia1Kubuntui taught it was a folder :)11:04
bachstudiesanybody else know how to make my monitor actually turn off rather than just standby (tried xset dpms options to no avail)11:04
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Tallia1KubuntuiNiku: since you seem to be so well informed.. is there a way to execute a program in the User context, before the starting of X? if X crash, and the program was started by X subprocess will crash too :(11:05
iNikuTallia1Kubuntu: umm... like what program?11:06
Tallia1Kubuntudunno, like amule daemon11:06
Tallia1Kubuntuor noip211:06
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iNikuTallia1Kubuntu: so the point is you want it to run as a certain user instead of root?11:06
Tallia1Kubuntuyep11:06
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iNikuTallia1Kubuntu: you could put su user -c "command" in /etc/rc.local11:07
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iNikubut make sure your command forks into the background11:07
iNikuie. becomes a daemon11:07
iNikuif it stays in the foreground, it will block the bootup11:07
Tallia1Kubuntuusing & ?11:08
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iNikuyeah, if it doesn't daemoniza by itself11:08
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iNikumost things written to run as daemons will automatically fork into the background and exit immediately11:09
iNikujust make sure yours does before you put it in rc.local :)11:09
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Tallia1KubuntuiNiku: won't su USER -c "balbal" need the password insertion?11:09
iNikuTallia1Kubuntu: not when it's run as root11:09
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Tallia1Kubuntuoh, i see, so root can execute a whatever command emulating completely a whatever user without having any privilege..11:10
Tallia1Kubuntunice.. :P11:10
iNikuroot has all privileges :)11:10
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Tallia1KubuntuiNiku: ok .... see ya!11:11
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Tallia1Kubunturc.local is before than X starts right?11:12
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iNikuyep11:12
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iNikuoh11:12
iNikuactually, not necessarily11:13
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iNiku# This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel.11:13
Tallia1Kubuntu?? don't understand11:13
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat's a multiuser runlevel..11:13
andreiHi there...11:13
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iNikuany normal runlevel is a multiuser runlevel11:14
andreiI've upgraded to Kde 3.5.3...11:14
andreiand now I have a problem...11:14
andreiwith my network...11:14
andreiI need to disable/enable11:14
andreiafter each reboot11:14
iNikuTallia1Kubuntu: but what that means is that it might actually run after X start11:14
andreito make it work11:14
andreianyone?11:15
Vliegendehuiskatallright11:15
Vliegendehuiskatit seems to be this way that everyone who knows how to deal with problems is gone11:15
andrei:(11:16
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iNikuandrei: I'm not sure what you mean11:16
andreiwell...11:16
andrei:)11:16
iNikuyou need to disable/enable what?11:16
andreiif I don;t do this11:17
pgquilesdoes dapper include XGL?11:17
andreimy internet connection isn't working11:17
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iNikuVliegendehuiskat: what do you mean? you haven't even asked a question as far as I can see?11:17
Vliegendehuiskatnope11:17
Vliegendehuiskatcause its a bit Asocial to do11:17
Vliegendehuiskatwell11:17
Vliegendehuiskati'll fire away than11:17
andreienable/disable from system settings... kde menu...11:17
Vliegendehuiskati'm installing kubuntu11:17
Vliegendehuiskatfrom the cd yes11:18
iNikuandrei: enable what?11:18
Vliegendehuiskatand in the end it reboots11:18
Vliegendehuiskatwell11:18
iNikuthe network?11:18
andreithe network card11:18
Vliegendehuiskatnow its in that reboot11:18
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andreiyes11:18
Vliegendehuiskatand the screen is black11:18
iNikuandrei: hmm... what kind of network card?11:18
Vliegendehuiskatthe hdd led flashes like an idiot11:18
Vliegendehuiskatand the cursor stil flickers11:18
Vliegendehuiskatow yeah11:18
andreinForce 3 Gigabit11:18
Vliegendehuiskatand caps lock responds11:18
Vliegendehuiskatbut thats all it does11:18
Vliegendehuiskatand its like this for alredy 15 min11:19
Vliegendehuiskatso11:19
Vliegendehuiskatanyone with suggestions?11:19
andreithat happend after upgrading to kde 3.5.311:19
iNikuVliegendehuiskat: did it show anything during the reboot before the screen went black?11:19
Vliegendehuiskatyup11:19
Vliegendehuiskatit did11:19
Vliegendehuiskatbut thats gone now11:19
Vliegendehuiskathalf of the shutdown actions seemed to be ok11:20
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Vliegendehuiskatbut than..... its like this :P11:20
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Vliegendehuiskat(btw its a laptop11:20
iNikuhmm11:20
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xwolf-how is NTFS writing in dapper?11:21
OlliKbad11:21
iNikuit's not11:21
andreiIxwolf: fuse-utils11:22
andreiit works11:22
andreiwith ntfs11:22
andreiwrite11:22
andreipretty damn good11:22
VliegendehuiskatiNiku, just power down and reinstall?11:22
xwolf-i don't intend to write on ntfs.. just wondering, cause in breezy you couldnt11:22
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iNikuVliegendehuiskat: I guess you've tried rebooting again?11:22
Vliegendehuiskatwell11:22
Vliegendehuiskatthat the point11:23
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Vliegendehuiskatit stuck up in the reboot11:23
Vliegendehuiskatand since the hdd led flashes11:23
Vliegendehuiskati'm like11:23
xwolf-damn slow full upgrade, still 54% :/11:23
Vliegendehuiskatis it doing something or not?11:23
iNikuVliegendehuiskat: yeah, dunno...11:24
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Vliegendehuiskatallright :P11:24
Vliegendehuiskatthan i don't seem to be suchs a noob after all11:24
Vliegendehuiskat:P11:24
iNikuI haven't done a dapper install so I have no idea how it works :)11:24
Vliegendehuiskatwell11:24
iNikuI upgraded from breezy11:25
Vliegendehuiskatnow I powerd it down11:25
Vliegendehuiskatand grub loads11:25
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Vliegendehuiskatwell I'll see where it end up11:25
iNikubtw, I have to ask... I know what huiskat means but what's vliegende? :D11:25
Vliegendehuiskat:)11:25
Vliegendehuiskatflyinghousecat11:25
Vliegendehuiskatyou know dutch?11:26
iNikuahh, of course, that's why it was so familiar11:26
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iNikuonly a tiny bit... I worked there for a few months some years ago11:26
BASEmanI am currently burning the 10.1 DVD using k3b and it's going horribly slowly. Mouse and keyboard are showing off delays. Any idea where this could come from?11:26
Vliegendehuiskatbumped into me somwhere else?11:26
Vliegendehuiskatallright11:26
Vliegendehuiskatwhere did you work?11:26
iNikuI knew what huiskat meant and vliegende sounded familiar, just couldn't remember what it means :)11:27
Vliegendehuiskat:)11:27
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iNikuwe had an office in Rotterdam and server room just off A10 in Amsterdam11:27
iNikuthe company that I worked for, that is11:27
Vliegendehuiskatmust have been redbus11:27
iNikuactually Level 3 :)11:27
Vliegendehuiskathm11:28
Vliegendehuiskatpossible too11:28
Vliegendehuiskatwell11:28
Vliegendehuiskatkubuntu seems to load :D11:28
macdslowly :{11:28
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iNikugood :)  wonder what it was doing before, though...11:28
Vliegendehuiskatso am I11:28
macdsluggishly loading :P11:28
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Vliegendehuiskattime to change the root pass :D11:29
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iNiku(just to clarify, I didn't work for L3, we just rented loads of rack space from them)11:29
macdehh I thought you 2 were talking about the kubuntu web, not the os install.!11:29
Vliegendehuiskatok11:29
Vliegendehuiskatnah11:29
Vliegendehuiskatanyway11:29
SkrotFFSIs there a torrent for kubuntu 6.06 CD-version?11:30
iNikuSkrotFFS: yes11:30
SkrotFFSYou've got a URL for that? =)11:30
Vliegendehuiskatthe state has been pumping up internet exchanges everywhere now11:30
Vliegendehuiskatwe have 12 atm :P11:30
iNikuSkrotFFS: hang on, I might11:30
iNikuhttp://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/11:31
SkrotFFSah, thanks11:31
iNikuuse the ubuntu ones11:31
iNikunot dapper-whatnot11:31
VliegendehuiskatiNiku,11:32
Vliegendehuiskatyou know where the install log is left?11:32
SkrotFFSallrighty11:32
iNikuVliegendehuiskat: hehe11:32
iNikuhmm... nope11:32
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iNikuthere seems to be something under /var/log/installer11:35
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andreiI've fixed the network enable/disable problem... :)11:38
andreibad dhcp...11:38
Vliegendehuiskathm11:38
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VliegendehuiskatiNiku,11:38
Vliegendehuiskatnothing11:38
VliegendehuiskatI guess it just did shutdown :P11:38
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iNikuif the hd light was flashing though...11:39
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Vliegendehuiskatyeah11:39
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Vliegendehuiskatwell11:39
Vliegendehuiskatnow i'm gonna mount my partitions again11:39
Vliegendehuiskatcause the installer has an awfull bug11:39
VliegendehuiskatIt can only take 3 partitions11:40
iNikuwhich installer?11:40
iNikuor both?11:40
HymnToLifeI know lots of people having problems with the Dapper installer11:40
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Vliegendehuiskatthe installer from the live cd11:41
nocloudcan anybody give me instructions on upgrading breezy to dapper?11:41
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andreiwhat do you mean, only 3 partitions?11:41
nocloudthe ones online don't make sense to me......11:41
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HymnToLifeI guess I will stick with Breezy and dist-upgrade11:41
nocloudhow do i change distributions in adept?11:41
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HymnToLifenocloud> what d'you mean ?11:43
nocloudi'm trying to upgrade breezy to dapper....11:43
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davidhousei think he means upgrade11:43
noclouddoes anybody know how i can upgrade?11:43
HymnToLife!upgrade11:44
ubotuupgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.11:44
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sampan!kupgrade   ;)11:45
ubotusampan: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:45
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McScruffiNiku: i ran 915resolution , but everything works now :) thankyou again for your great support11:46
sampannocloud, in adept, go to the top menu: Adept --> "manage repositories" ... then double click on every instance of "breezy" and change it to "dapper" -- then hit "apply" ... then "fetch updates" ... then you can "review changes" or "full upgrade" i think11:46
Vliegendehuiskatanyway11:46
Vliegendehuiskatfolks!11:46
Vliegendehuiskatthanx for the kind support11:47
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Vliegendehuiskati'm gonna reinstall it again tomorrow cause I don't trust it :P11:47
Vliegendehuiskatanyway11:47
Vliegendehuiskatnow i'm off11:47
Vliegendehuiskatlater all!11:47
iNikufly safely :)11:47
Vliegendehuiskat:)11:47
VliegendehuiskatI will11:47
Vliegendehuiskat(K)ubuntu will protect me11:48
iNikuhmm... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LVMOnRaid?highlight=%28lvm%29%7C%28install%2911:48
Vliegendehuiskatbye!11:48
iNikuwonder how seriously that is out of date11:48
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heinrichhow do i install apache and php and mysql?11:48
sampan!lamp11:49
iNikuit claims grub cannot be used to boot an lvm/raid system, wonder if that's still true?11:49
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sampanubotu tell heinrich about lamp11:49
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DaveQBanyone having trouble with thunderbird launching ANY brower on url clicks?11:50
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K|NgGh0sTHow do I get ubuntu from showing "Display CHanged: LCD On" randomly all the time?11:52
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DaveQBfound it! galternatives is your friend ;-)11:54
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davidhousegood luck with the rest of the launch, team. thanks for making it fairly painless: just fix emacs and everything will be rosy :)11:55
slow-motionre11:55
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iNikuwhat, emacs is borked?11:56
eric_pping Riddell11:57
elgordo123-->Probably asked 1 million times today...   Where can I download the x86 torrent (non-dvd)11:57
davidhouseiNiku: yeah. emacs*-nox is okay, but emacs and emacs-gtk are borked.11:57
iNikuelgordo123: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/, look for the *ubuntu* torrents11:58
elgordo123thank you iNiku!11:58
iNiku(not the dapper ones)11:58
iNikudavidhouse: hmm, borked how?11:58
elgordo123oh dapper is not there?  thats what I'm after11:58
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iNikuelgordo123: I meant, look for the ubuntu-6.06 ones11:59
iNikuthose are the dapper images you want11:59
elgordo123thanks11:59
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davidhouseiNiku: running it crashes with something like "no such font: MonospaceXsomething or other". i mentioned it to seth earlier and he said there was meant to be a line break in between the Monospace and the X.11:59
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altprsonai was doing and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade after changing my sources to the 6. from the 5. and i accidentally stopped the thing. can i restart it from where it was or do i have to do it all agaain?12:00
iNikudavidhouse: oh... oh well12:00
visik7the problem releated to casually LCD on  is solvable ?12:00
davidhouseiNiku: just hope it gets fixed soon, i'm not much use without emacs.12:01
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bluszczhi12:01
iNikudavidhouse: when did it break? seems to work here12:01
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bluszczdoes dapper is equipped with xgk by default?12:02
davidhouseiNiku: oh? let me check it out12:02
iNikuI have emacs21 here12:03
davidhousethe normal X one?12:03
altprsonacan "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" be resumed if it gets stopped?12:03
iNikuI suppose that's what it is, the package is just called emacs2112:03
iNikuwas installed by default12:04
davidhouseyeah.12:04
davidhousei think i tried that.12:04
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iNikuPackage: emacs2112:04
iNikuVersion: 21.4a-3ubuntu212:04

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