[12:04] <paveq> so where do I find more info about "setting up automated deployments"
[12:04] <paveq> does it *work*?
[12:06] <paveq> there doesn't seem to be any documentation in the web site
[12:07] <paveq> funny
[12:07] <paveq> 230 nicks but no-one seems to be here :P
[12:07] <paveq> or no-one knows :/
[12:09] <lozenge> hi
[12:20] <Kronoz> !nvidia
[12:20] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:24] <jorgp> is it musicbrainz or tunepimp that has the mp3 disabled
[12:35] <mardi> Do I use K3b for burning an ISO?
[12:35] <Kronoz> mardi, yes
[12:35] <mardi> Kronoz: Thanks!
[12:38] <djib> hey
[12:38] <djib> I'm trying to update to dapper but when I do a dist-upgrade apt want to get rid of loads of packages like eclipse, amarok, ...
[12:39] <djib> why, and how can I avoid that ?
[12:40] <behavedave> Looks like KDE 3.5.3 has been released!
[12:40] <djib> yep, the binaries are available for dapper
[12:42] <behavedave> so they are - give that a go
[12:47] <AdmiralFTW> !cups
[12:47] <ubotu> it has been said that cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[12:55] <djib> anyone know when PLF repos will be available for dapper ?
[12:58] <jorgp> djib: remove the dependencies
[12:58] <djib> jorgp: how do I do that ?
[01:00] <AdmiralFTW> i can't get my USB printer to work on my comuter
[01:00] <AdmiralFTW> and ideas?
[01:00] <djib> http://www.linux-usb.org/
[01:01] <rpedro> AdmiralFTW: what brand is your printer?
[01:01] <AdmiralFTW> its a dell A940
[01:02] <rpedro> hmm, Dell printers I've are usually rebranded Lexmarks, I believe
[01:02] <AdmiralFTW> yea i read that somewhere
[01:03] <AdmiralFTW> i ran printconf
[01:03] <rpedro> not very good support under linux, the best support is for HP and Brother printers
[01:03] <AdmiralFTW> but it said foomaitc was doing something wrong
[01:03] <rpedro> overall...
[01:03] <AdmiralFTW> my friend had an easy time configuring his, its a lexmark
[01:06] <djib> AdmiralFTW: have you had a look on linux-usb.org ?
[01:06] <AdmiralFTW> yea
[01:06] <djib> whad did you find ?
[01:06] <AdmiralFTW> it had a pdf which was no help
[01:06] <djib> ok but if you find something I guess chances are that you can get your printer to work
[01:09] <rpedro> the Dell A940 is supposed to be a rebranded Lexmark X5150M
[01:10] <rpedro> I'm using gnome right now, and can't find either on the list of supported printers, sorry
[01:10] <AdmiralFTW> i'm on the ubuntu wiki now
[01:15] <Fastly> i just installed amarok 1.4 on ubuntu and now get the following error: No new media devices were found. If you feel this is an error, ensure that the DBUS and HAL daemons are running and KDE was built with support for them. You can test this by running "dcop kded mediamanager fullList" in a Konsole window.
[01:16] <Fastly> any ideas?
[01:16] <Fastly> i get this error when trying to autodetect my ipod which is plugged in and mounted
[01:16] <Fastly> the ipod icon was created on  the desktop
[01:30] <jonathan_> hello
[01:31] <jonathan_> #alionet
[01:38] <Chuck> Hi, I have just upgraded to kubuntu dapper, and now when I boot a kernel (dose not matter which one) it loads, then when the login screen should come up, it does not and just displays the new kubuntu load logo thingy, I changed the thing and it keeps saying some kernel module failed to load
[01:38] <conn> hi, when I run a certain app, DRI won't work, displaying this error: libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_Dispatch). Usually LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 will fix the issue, but I can't get it working with a particular app (vmware-player). Every other gl app works fine, direct rendering is enabled and working fine. Any ideas?
[01:41] <rpedro> Chuck: try asking in #ubuntu+1 , if  you don't think it's a kubuntu specific bug
[01:42] <RadiantFire> Chuck: I had the problem, and I fixed it by logging in at terminall and running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:43] <Chuck> Thanks
[01:49] <Kronoz> what time is dapper due?
[01:50] <Eroick> between 12 noon Central time today and 12 noon central tomorow
[01:50] <Eroick> in other words, soon, but nobody knows how soon!
[01:53] <word> I'm getting the error "[42989......]  Buffer, I/O error on device dm-0, logical block 64183..." when the Enterprise Volume Manager starts up and that error goes on forever with the numbers chaning i have to skip the volume manager to satart up kubuntu
[01:54] <james_xxx> how would one go about enabling direct rendering? is there any reason why a person would not want to do this
[01:58] <james_xxx> dieser raum sieht fast tot aus...
[01:58] <RadiantFire> maybe we all have better things to do :-)
[01:59] <james_xxx> RadiantFire: easily lol
[02:07] <BlueLaguna> anyone installed xgl?
[02:08] <james_xxx> BlueLaguna: i installed it, but don't yet know what to do next
[02:13] <BlueLaguna> bah, I'll save this for some other time...
[02:22] <james_xxx> where geographically do desktop linux distros have their heaviest user base?
[02:24] <_chuck> yeah ok I got it working :)
[02:25] <_chuck> now time to try to install my grapics drivers
[02:31] <Jack_Smirnoff> how do I do a hardware change like a video card after Kubuntu is installed?
[02:32] <Jack_Smirnoff> I changed the card and rebooted into the recovery mode. ended up at a prompt but did not know what to do next.
[02:35] <rpedro> BlueLaguna: /j #ubuntu-xgl
[02:36] <Bladesonfire> Jack_Smirnoff, what video card brand are you using?
[02:37] <Jack_Smirnoff> In this casse S3
[02:37] <Jack_Smirnoff> Cheapie PCI
[02:37] <Jack_Smirnoff> It had onboard video which I disabled
[02:37] <Jack_Smirnoff> then into recovery mode
[02:38] <Bladesonfire> Jack_Smirnoff, try this command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:39] <Jack_Smirnoff> I cant since I opted for just reinstalling
[02:39] <Jack_Smirnoff> It is just a test anyhow
[02:39] <Jack_Smirnoff> I was just wondering how to do it right since I did it wrong
[02:39] <_chuck> how can I open a decompress a .tar.gz from the commandline?
[02:39] <Bladesonfire> THe only problem is a malformed xorg.conf
[02:40] <Bladesonfire> _chuck, tar xvzf /path/to/file
[02:40] <_chuck> thanks
[02:40] <Jack_Smirnoff> so I edit it?
[02:41] <Bladesonfire> Jack_Smirnoff, I don't know what to do for an S3, but you need to change the device section of your xorg
[02:41] <james_xxx> how would i enable direct rendering (provided it is possible with my system)?
[02:41] <Bladesonfire> Jack_Smirnoff, if you want, you can always boot a live CD and copy that xorg
[02:41] <Jack_Smirnoff> but that is the filename to edit?
[02:42] <_chuck> "make: command not found"  Can I install the make command on kubuntu?
[02:42] <Jack_Smirnoff> will it be in the path?
[02:42] <Bladesonfire> Jack_Smirnoff, The full path for the file is under /etc/X11/xorg.conf (make sure to back it up before you do anything)
[02:42] <Jack_Smirnoff> thanks..
[02:42] <Bukunut> hi all
[02:42] <Bladesonfire> _chuck, "sudo aptitude install build-essentials"
[02:43] <Jack_Smirnoff> Can you tell me where to find an artice on how I should have dont it?
[02:44] <Jack_Smirnoff> done
[02:44] <_chuck> "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "build-essentials""
[02:44] <Bladesonfire> Jack_Smirnoff, did you try the wiki or the forums?
[02:44] <Bladesonfire> _chuck, sorry: build-essential
[02:44] <Jack_Smirnoff> tried the forums yes
[02:44] <_chuck> ok
[02:44] <Jack_Smirnoff> but nothing about changing hardware
[02:45] <Jack_Smirnoff> THe live handles hardware changes like nothing I would have expected this to be simple
[02:45] <Bladesonfire> Jack_Smirnoff, go to #ubuntu and maybe someone there can help you
[02:45] <Jack_Smirnoff> thanks.
[02:47] <Bladesonfire> I like Adept over Synaptic
[02:48] <Bukunut>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[02:49] <_chuck> "Linux kernel headers 2.6.15 on 386"  is that the sorce for /usr/src?
[02:49] <_chuck> for recomplining the sorce
[02:51] <_chuck> excuse my spelling I am use to xchat spell checker helping me
[02:52] <Bladesonfire> And yes, it is
[02:52] <james_xxx> is there a way to logout from the command line? i need the command
[02:54] <_chuck> *sigh* how anyone there tryed to install these drivers: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=865&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng&strOSs=39&submit=Go%21
[02:55] <james_xxx> damn it
[02:56] <Bladesonfire> _chuck, no... try #ubuntu
[02:56] <Bladesonfire> james_xxx, "lo" "exit" "logout"
[02:56] <bipolar> i'm sitting at our lug meeting. does the dapper 'live' cd automaticly setup dualboot if a pc has winxp on it? all my installs have been linux only so far.
[02:57] <crimsun> it will detect the other OS, yes.
[02:57] <bipolar> will it repartition?
[02:58] <bipolar> resize the windows partition...
[02:58] <james_xxx> Bladesonfire: after i apt-get dist-upgrade, is there anything i need to do next?
[02:58] <Bladesonfire> I've never repartitioned an NTFS filesystem before
[02:58] <Bladesonfire> james_xxx, Update your sources.list and reboot, I believe
[02:59] <james_xxx> and i need a way to actually shut down from the command line lol
[02:59] <james_xxx> i lost my panel somehow
[02:59] <Bladesonfire> james_xxx, sudo shutdown -r now (-r = restart, -h = halt/shutdown)
[02:59] <james_xxx> thanks a million
[03:00] <Bladesonfire> james_xxx, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades ... don't know what step you are in that, but yes, gl
[03:01] <Midspeed> hello everybody
[03:01] <Bladesonfire> hi
[03:01] <Midspeed> i have a problem, if anybody could help me, it would be highly appreciated
[03:01] <Midspeed> everytime i try to access USER AND GROUPS in System Setting i get this error
[03:02] <Midspeed> The module Users and Groups could not be loaded.
[03:03] <Midspeed> and i need to add a user and i cant, i tried adding a user on the shell and it does create it, but it wont login it says the password is incorrect even though i have changed the password like 3 times
[03:03] <Bladesonfire> Midspeed, I don't know about the modules problem (I get it, too, sometimes), but for command line, do "useradd user" and then "passwd user"
[03:04] <Midspeed> ok
[03:04] <Midspeed> let me try that
[03:05] <Midspeed> and how do i delete a formerely created user?
[03:05] <Midspeed> whats the shell command for it?
[03:05] <RadiantFire> i think it is userdel
[03:06] <RadiantFire> either that or maybe something in gpasswd
[03:06] <Midspeed> its deluser i just tried it, thanks its good
[03:06] <Midspeed> wait userdel works too
[03:06] <Midspeed> he he he
[03:06] <Midspeed> thanks alot
[03:08] <Bilford> dont go to #Ubuntu.  theres 1000 people there now, and theyre all talking
[03:09] <Bladesonfire> 908, to be exact ;)
[03:09] <optiproc> wow
[03:12] <_chuck> ok these crappy intel drivers are cleary not going to work, anyone know another possable soluation to a unsupported driver problem?
[03:12] <optiproc> I'm looking forward to the dapper release.  right now I'm running opensuse and the package manager is really annoying but it does have good support for mixed 32 bit and 64 bit apps
[03:13] <optiproc> which intel drivers are you using?
[03:14] <Bladesonfire> Sorry _chuck, I only know nVidia
[03:14] <_chuck> these: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=865&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng&strOSs=39&submit=Go%21
[03:14] <Bladesonfire> Get one of those cards and get back to me ;)
[03:15] <_chuck> Bladesonfire: I do not think nVidia will work for me
[03:15] <_chuck> I think it will be a lot better if I could use my RAM for my video chipset
[03:15] <Bladesonfire> Will only work if you have that brand card, of course
[03:16] <_chuck> but we I config xserver to do that, it does not want to run
[03:16] <_chuck> when*
[03:16] <Bladesonfire> Hmm
[03:16] <Bladesonfire> I dunno
[03:17] <_chuck> when you do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it asks if you want to use RAN as Video RAM, and if I put something down for that, when I try to run X it crashes says something about a module not being supported
[03:18] <_chuck> and my chipset does not have any RAM of its own
[03:18] <_chuck> so I am stuck on 640x480 with like 16-bit color
[03:18] <Bladesonfire> What happens if you don't put anything in it?
[03:18] <Bladesonfire> Ah
[03:19] <_chuck> And its hard as crap to work on such a low res
[03:19] <_chuck> your text is like .7 inchs high
[03:19] <Bladesonfire> _chuck, you saw this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27029
[03:19] <_chuck> I will soon
[03:22] <_chuck> Ill have to try using 855resolution
[03:31] <chuck> What was that link again...
[03:31] <dbglt> is dapper released yet? :)
[03:31] <chuck> nvm
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> dbglt: Not yet
[03:41] <dbglt> CheeseBurgerMan: how many more minutes? :)
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> dbglt: It could be...*shock*... over 24 hours (or > 1440 minutes)
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> :P
[03:43] <dbglt> blarg
[03:43] <dbglt> it's already midday here :p
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's still may here ;)
[03:43] <licio> lol
[03:43] <dbglt> ^_^
[03:44] <jet87> i've still got 3+ hours
[03:44] <dbglt> wake up, folks. Live in the real world.
[03:45] <dbglt> :)
[03:45] <dbglt> the future is now!
[03:45] <Bladesonfire> What's the future like?
[03:45] <firephoto> blue n silver
[03:45] <crimsun> it's bright.
[03:47] <dbglt> bit cloudy outside
[03:48] <dbglt> oh and a bit of an unrelated question... decent tagger for mp3s? preferably a kde one
[03:48] <firephoto> dbglt: juk or amarok does that
[03:48] <dbglt> firephoto: not well enough for me :\
[03:48] <dbglt> firephoto: won't capture anything in brackets as part of my title :|
[03:49] <dbglt> e.g. Song (Remix) - I want all of that in the title
[03:49] <dbglt> both of them decide they don't like that, and just give "Song"
[03:49] <Bilford> how do you receive DCC in Konversation
[03:49] <firephoto> they don't mas tag as good as they could though.. juk is a little better for that..  oh you want them to take file names and make tags?
[03:49] <Bilford> I tried configuring ports but it didnt work
[03:49] <dbglt> firephoto: for some instances yeah
[03:50] <firephoto> Bilford: worked here i think. just opens a new tab.
[03:50] <Bilford> I get that far, but the download doesnt start
[03:50] <Bilford> just hangs at 0%
[03:51] <Bilford> I'll try a few more ports
[03:51] <firephoto> oh.. probably is network related then.
[03:58] <Bilford> I just had to right click it to start the download
[03:58] <Bilford> choose Accept
[03:58] <chuck> I love what Dell and Intel did to my PC, I do not have any PCI, AGP, no exepansion slotes at all, and intel has logical PCI slotes for all of Intel's crappy chipsets
[04:02] <chuck> I think the problem could me with my VBOIS, I have a lot of things that tell me I do not have one
[04:06] <chuck> brb
[04:06] <orient2000> Is ubuntu tasty? Did anybody drink it?
[04:07] <Bilford> what
[04:07] <orient2000> Ubuntu is also a wine from south africa he he, just wander if anybody tried it. Is it good?
[04:08] <Bilford> no
[04:08] <Bilford> are you sure it's a wine
[04:10] <orient2000> You can buy it in Toronto in LCBO store. Sure it is a wine. It make me happy to see this name. We should send few bottles to developers team.
[04:10] <Bilford> lol
[04:10] <Bilford> theyd probably like that
[04:11] <orient2000> I wonder if they know about it.
[04:12] <james_xxx> can anyone tell me how you can type in different languages on kubuntu? is there a selector i need to install? i already have the support packages installed
[04:12] <Bilford> yes
[04:13] <Bilford> REgional and Accessibility
[04:13] <Bilford> Keyboard Layout
[04:13] <james_xxx> Bilford: thanks
[04:14] <DaSkreech> jorgp: Hello
[04:18] <james_xxx> heute abend a ich zwei rote pfel
[04:18] <james_xxx> kool
[04:20] <Bilford> looks like you can switch back and forth easily
[04:20] <feetboy16> i cant change my wallpaper on kde :S its stick as a green and yellow gradient and wont budge
[04:20] <feetboy16> how can i change it O_o
[04:20] <feetboy16> thanks
[04:20] <Bilford> thats too easy
[04:21] <james_xxx>      ...
[04:21] <DaSkreech> haha
[04:21] <Bilford> lol
[04:21] <Bilford> left to right
[04:21] <james_xxx> rock and rool
[04:21] <Bilford> I mean right to left
[04:22] <james_xxx> roll*
[04:22] <DaSkreech> feetboy16: What have you tried to do?
[04:22] <feetboy16> change it from kcontrol so far
[04:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> feetboy16: Right click on an empty area of the desktop, and click 'Configure Desktop' ;)
[04:22] <orient2000> If I switch to chinese, how can I switch back to English when I can not understand chinese at all? P
[04:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's in kcontrol too, but that's the easy way. :)
[04:22] <feetboy16> did that
[04:22] <DaSkreech> Right
[04:22] <feetboy16> same applet, CheeseBurgerMan
[04:23] <james_xxx> ok the language support in kubuntu us way better in k/ubuntu than in windows
[04:23] <DaSkreech> What do you have your background set as?
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> feetboy16: I know.
[04:23] <james_xxx> is*
[04:23] <DaSkreech> No Picture, Picture or Slideshow?
[04:23] <Bilford> I know.  you should see some of the languages
[04:23] <feetboy16> well it is set as no picture (single colour, blue) but it shows a gradient of green to yellow :S
[04:23] <DaSkreech> james_xxx: side effect of open source
[04:23] <Bilford>  
[04:24] <DaSkreech> Under the options beneath that do you have it as single colour?
[04:24] <chuck> you know whats odd, knoppix (liveCD) can get me a higher res
[04:24] <DaSkreech> With no blending?
[04:24] <feetboy16> ya
[04:24] <feetboy16> basically it isnt showing anything corresponding to the settings, to put it simply
[04:24] <feetboy16> i could set a wallpaper, set a slideshow, change the direction of the gradient, nothing
[04:24] <james_xxx> Bilford: that is so awesome
[04:25] <DaSkreech> and this setting is for .. all desktops?
[04:25] <chuck> You think its possable to copy the settings/driver/(w/e) knoppix is doing?
[04:25] <feetboy16> all, 1, 2'
[04:25] <imbrandon> Chuck just copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:25] <orient2000> Did anybody had a problems with a screen savers. I did try it 2 weeks ago and some did freeze my system. I had to reset. Is it still a problem? I am afraid to try again.
[04:25] <feetboy16> you name it, none corespond
[04:25] <chuck> ok, going to liveCD, brb
[04:27] <DaSkreech> I don't know
[04:27] <DaSkreech> Log out and log back in?
[04:27] <feetboy16> its been happening for a few days
[04:27] <james_xxx> i wonder if anyone will make bootable k/ubuntu usb drives :-)
[04:27] <feetboy16> logged in logged out fiddled with xorg.conf rebooted
[04:28] <orient2000> Bilford: it looks Thai to me.
[04:28] <feetboy16> everything i could think of
[04:28] <james_xxx> that could be thai or tamil or something
[04:28] <DaSkreech> didn't do anything to set it to that in the first plae?
[04:28] <Bilford> Unicode 0BB7
[04:28] <feetboy16> i dunno what could have done it :S
[04:29] <Bilford> Tamil
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Umm. I forget where kde saves that option
[04:29] <orient2000> I thought Tamil is close to sanscrit or hindi. interesting.
[04:30] <NeoChaosX> am I the only one who noticed that the font size on kubuntu.org is bigger than usual?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> Let me see if I can find where my wallpaper is
[04:30] <james_xxx> NeoChaosX: yeah , it is
[04:31] <feetboy16> ok das
[04:32] <james_xxx> i was serious about  the bootable k/ubuntu usb drive lol. i have a usb version of damn small linux that i think is sweet
[04:33] <orient2000> can you tell me abot this small USB boot option on small linux?
[04:36] <james_xxx> orient2000: u can download it on the damn small linux website
[04:37] <richard> Is KDE 3.5.3 in the Kubuntu repositories yet? Or will it take a few days?
[04:38] <james_xxx> orient2000: they make a version that is designed to install to usb drive.... and for older computers that cannot boot from usb, you can also download a file that will make a bootable floppy that will then tell the computer to boot from the usb drive
[04:38] <orient2000> is it domnsmalllinux.com ? you mean?
[04:39] <chavo> richard,  3.5.3 is available
[04:39] <Chuck> The knoppix X server does not have a xorg.config or what ever!
[04:40] <james_xxx> www.damnsmalllinux.org
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> Chuck: It may use XFree86
[04:40] <orient2000> thanks.
[04:40] <Chuck> right...
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> Chuck: Was that an 'I have not clue what you mean, but thanks' right? :P
[04:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> no*
[04:41] <Chuck> lol
[04:41] <Chuck> no I know that that is
[04:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe, good :)
[04:41] <james_xxx> it says that KDE 3.5.3 is available for i386 and PPC... would that mean that it is not available for i686??
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> What? KDE 3.5.3 is out? I must update! :P
[04:42] <imbrandon> james_xxx, 686 == i386 arch
[04:42] <Chuck> I think you can pick which Xserver to use on load
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh, only for Dapper. :(
[04:42] <chavo> james_xxx, kubuntu is compiled for 386
[04:42] <Chuck> I picked Xvesa
[04:42] <james_xxx> 3.5.3 is out, but i don't think it's in the repos yet
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> james_xxx: It is for Dapper
[04:42] <james_xxx> chavo: thanks
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[04:43] <chavo> yes you can get it for dapper, it's not in main it's in kubuntu.org
[04:43] <chavo> riddel's packages
[04:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah
[04:43] <james_xxx> CheeseBurgerMan: does that mean we can upgrade with synaptic or adept?
[04:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> james_xxx: If you have Dapper and add the repo to your sources.list, then yes.
[04:43] <DaveQB11> how would one go about upgrading to Dapper from Breezy ? And when should one do the dist-upgrade to get the official release, not the RC ? Wait til the ISO's are posted up ??
[04:44] <feetboy16> from dapper to breezy?
[04:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> !upgrade
[04:44] <ubotu> [upgrade]  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[04:44] <feetboy16> why would you want to go backwards
[04:44] <imbrandon> !upgrade
[04:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> ha! :P
[04:44] <DaveQB11> thanx for the link CheeseBurgerMan
[04:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> feetboy16: "To Dapper from Breezy"
[04:44] <feetboy16> oh
[04:44] <feetboy16> wow
[04:45] <DaveQB11> when should one do the upgrade to the same system as if they did an install with the Official release of Dapper ?
[04:45] <feetboy16> ok i think i need to go have an eye bath again, the eye meds are obviously kicking in. brb.
[04:45] <DaveQB11> ".. to get the same system ..."
[04:45] <imbrandon> dave yes
[04:45] <DaveQB11> imbrandon: yes which ?
[04:45] <james_xxx> is it necessary to add the key that it mentions?
[04:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> james_xxx: If you havent added it yet, then yes.
[04:46] <imbrandon> james_xxx, yes , DaveQB11 anytime, i would do updates regularly, you will have the same system from then on after launch
[04:47] <DaveQB11> imbrandon: yeah I update regularly now, so wait til its released today to do the dist-update ?
[04:47] <james_xxx> do you think that 3.5.3 will be a part of dapper stable?
[04:47] <imbrandon> DaveQB11, update for dapper includes dist-upgrades ;)
[04:48] <imbrandon> james_xxx, probbly not
[04:48] <imbrandon> DaveQB11, by update regularly i mean running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:48] <DaveQB11> imbrandon: yeah ok, I guess what I am trying to ask is, if I do a dist-upgrade not, would that give me the same as if I downloaded the Official Dapper ISO's releasing today or the same as if I installed from the RC ISO's
[04:48] <imbrandon> ;)
[04:49] <imbrandon> DaveQB11, yes it would give you the same system
[04:49] <DaveQB11> imbrandon: Ahh ok, no I do not do that, just fetch updates in adept and commit
[04:49] <feetboy16> and even if it didnt, the regular updates would get you up to scratch anyways..
[04:49] <DaveQB11> imbrandon: the same as Official not RC you mean ??
[04:50] <DaveQB11> feetboy16: yeah true, just trying to avoid any complications
[04:50] <james_xxx> would someone tell me again how to edit the source list? sudo nano something something....
[04:50] <orient2000> KDE 3.5.3  sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[04:51] <DaveQB11> james_xxx:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list i think
[04:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> Dave is correct
[04:51] <DaveQB11> james_xxx: use TAB completions, easiest
[04:51] <imbrandon> DaveQB11, i dont think you are understanding how the repos work, the repos hold the packages for RC untill release, then they are holding the same packages for the release, so as long as you are updated you have what ever the newest released version is, dosent matter what you started with
[04:51] <chuck> Is it possable to install XFree86 on ubuntu
[04:52] <imbrandon> chuck, possible but it would be a major pain and a major downgrade from xorg
[04:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> !xfree86
[04:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> Rats :P
[04:52] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CheeseBurgerMan
[04:52] <feetboy16> xorg and xfree86 use the same syntax in their config files, so it should be a matter of copy/paste really :S
[04:53] <chuck> imbrandon, well with xorg the max res I can get is 640x480 with 16 bit color at 60 Hz, not sure you can get much lower
[04:53] <imbrandon> chuck, xfree and xorg use the same syntax in the config files
[04:53] <feetboy16> echo echo echo
[04:53] <DaveQB11> imbrandon: yep, so I am just trying to skip having RC packages on my system; go straight to Official Dapper hence my timing question
[04:53] <imbrandon> chuck, also try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:54] <chuck> Yeah, only done that about 35 times today
[04:54] <chuck> I think the problem lies with my VBOIS, I do not think I have one.
[04:54] <imbrandon> DaveQB11, there is no way to "skip" a version per se like windows , anyhow wait till the iso is out in your case
[04:55] <chuck> and I try to install the intel drivers for linux/my chip.  And there are bugs in the programming of the drivers.
[04:55] <DaveQB11> imbrandon: thanx. There will little to no changed in the repos once Official release huh ?
[04:55] <imbrandon> DaveQB11, correct
[04:55] <DaveQB11> imbrandon: cheers
[04:55] <chuck> Unless you wanna try to make header and tails out of the 130 some line error dump...
[04:56] <OmniD> Should 6.06 come out at the same time as the ubuntu version?
[04:56] <OmniD> For kubuntu?
[04:56] <imbrandon> OmniD, yes
[04:56] <OmniD> Oh awesome. I wanna try out KDE
[04:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> OmniD: You can just install KDE on Breezy
[04:57] <OmniD> I hear a lot of people like it more.
[04:57] <OmniD> I'm not on Breezy
[04:57] <imbrandon> we all seem to ;)
[04:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> OmniD: Oh :P
[04:57] <OmniD> I'm not on any Linux at the moment
[04:57] <chuck> imbrandon, I just don't know what to do...  I tryed using some 855resolution program, and it does not work
[04:57] <OmniD> Just waiting so I can download all I need in one nice DVD
[04:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> Right. :)
[04:58] <imbrandon> chuck, what card
[04:58] <OmniD> The other channel is going insane
[04:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> I assume 'the other channel' is #ubuntu
[04:58] <_nano_> OmniD: which channel? ubuntu?
[04:58] <robin__> any one know if writing to my xp partition from kubuntu will hurt anything?
[04:58] <OmniD> _nano_: yes
[04:58] <imbrandon> robin_ probbly, ntfs write support in linux is dangerous
[04:58] <DaveQB11> robin_:  depends on file system
[04:59] <DaveQB11> robin_: FAT32 or NTFS ?
[04:59] <chuck> imbrandon: Intel Corp 82845G/GL[brookdale-G] /GL
[04:59] <robin__> ntfs
[04:59] <OmniD> FAT32 is recommended right?
[04:59] <_nano_> robin_it's always better to create a separate fat32 partition in between ntfs and linux partitions
[04:59] <chuck> I think thats right
[04:59] <DaveQB11> robin_:  i wouldnt
[04:59] <robin__> ok jusy checkin
[04:59] <chavo> chuck, laptop?
[04:59] <imbrandon> hahaha chuck you have the EXACT same card i do, hmmm , mine works perfect
[04:59] <robin__> thx
[04:59] <DaveQB11> I have a Win install on FAT32, make life so much easier :)
[04:59] <imbrandon> i even play 3d games etc
[04:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> DaveQB11: Totally :)
[04:59] <_nano_> yeah imbrandon has even run xgl on that ;)
[04:59] <robin__> fat 32 wont see 120 gig
[05:00] <chuck> yeap its  Intel Corp. 82845G/GL [Brookdale-G]  Chipset Integrated
[05:00] <DaveQB11> CheeseBurgerMan: I hardly use Win though, so doesnt make a diff what its on
[05:00] <chavo> chuck, what about the monitor?
[05:00] <DaveQB11> robin_: I only have 6 gigs for Win sorry, so cant suggest in your case
[05:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> DaveQB11: I know it...I was Windows free for awhile, but then I was doing some stuff that required Windows, so I had to reinstall. :(
[05:00] <imbrandon> chuck, i use that exact same card, hold on i'll paste my xorg conf
[05:00] <chuck> imbrandon, what driver are you using?
[05:00] <imbrandon> i810
[05:00] <chuck> ...
[05:00] <DaveQB11> CheeseBurgerMan: qemu ?
[05:00] <chuck> PM it to me
[05:01] <chuck> What type of monitor?
[05:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> DaveQB11: virtualization is too slow for me. :P
[05:01] <DaveQB11> CheeseBurgerMan: yeah i got it for one game, that doesnt have network support in Linux
[05:01] <DaveQB11> CheeseBurgerMan:  :(
[05:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe
[05:02] <chuck> I have a MAG XLI795 or a MAG XL1795, not sure if its a one or are I
[05:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's why I have mine fat32. It doesn't affect my computing much
[05:02] <robin__> is there a bearshare type program for linux?
[05:02] <chuck> bearshare?
[05:02] <chuck> like a torrent?
[05:02] <robin__> no file sharing
[05:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> chuck: Gnutella client
[05:03] <DaveQB11> limewire ?
[05:03] <imbrandon> robin_ limewire or frostwire
[05:03] <robin__> perfect thx
[05:03] <DaveQB11> frostwire ?
[05:03] <chuck> torrent is file shareing?
[05:03] <robotgeek> imbrandon: apollon also works
[05:04] <imbrandon> chuck, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/750484
[05:04] <imbrandon> brb
[05:04] <chuck> thanks
[05:04] <DaveQB11> so when is dapper released ? in what timezone and time ? Midnight S.A. ?
[05:04] <imbrandon> DaveQB11, when they announce it on the webpage, they have a "day" not time ;)
[05:04] <chx> I am dist-upgrade 'ing now -- I guess it won't change _that much_
[05:04] <imbrandon> chx, very very very little
[05:04] <DaveQB11> imbrandon: doh! :)
[05:05] <chx> I run Dapper since Flight 5
[05:05] <chx> it's usable since Flight 6
[05:05] <DaveQB11> chx: hows it been ?
[05:05] <Bilford> tj9991, I guess youre installing today, right
[05:05] <imbrandon> :) yea i've been using it months
[05:05] <chx> at least on this box
[05:05] <chx> Flight 5 was... freaky.
[05:05] <DaveQB11> imbrandon:  overall impressions ? big diff ?
[05:05] <chx> yes, big diff
[05:05] <imbrandon> DaveQB11, very
[05:05] <robin__> oh is it due to be released to? i have the available releassse now and so far no problems
[05:05] <imbrandon> DaveQB11, but i work on it every day too ;)
[05:06] <chx> yes, today is the big day
[05:06] <robin__> awesoom
[05:06] <DaveQB11> imbrandon:  in hardware detection, boot speed, overall speed, eye candy ?
[05:06] <DaveQB11> imbrandon: your a dev i take it ?
[05:06] <imbrandon> DaveQB11, yes yes yes etc etc etc , try it out
[05:06] <DaveQB11> imbrandon:  i will be
[05:06] <james_xxx> ok back to 3.5.3 and the thing with the key.... do i install 3.5.3 first , THEN the key, or the other way around?
[05:06] <chx> DaveQB11: hardware detection big time
[05:06] <imbrandon> DaveQB11, http://wiki.kubuntu.org/imbrandon tells a bit more about me ;)
[05:06] <imbrandon> brb
[05:07] <chx> DaveQB11: you can't imagine the weird sh*t I am throwing at poor *ubuntu
[05:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> james_xxx: add the key, then install 3.5.3
[05:07] <DaveQB11> chx:  how you mean ?
[05:07] <robin__> I dont understand where the $ comes from to devlope ubuntu/kubuntu, they give cd's away, will this ever end
[05:07] <DaveQB11> chx:  home baked packages etc ?
[05:07] <chx> DaveQB11: no, exotic hardware
[05:07] <imbrandon> robin_ Mark Shuttleworth ;)
[05:08] <chuck> ok, restarting xserver, brb
[05:08] <imbrandon> brb
[05:08] <MasterEvilAce`LT> is there a way to make Konversation not stay in taskbar if it's in sys tray?
[05:08] <james_xxx> ok here goes the KDE upgrade... i hope this was a wise thing lol
[05:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> MasterEvilAce`LT: Yes.
[05:09] <barros> anyone here succed to install RT2500-USB on ubuntu?
[05:09] <robin__> well I am glad mark finds this worth while and I hope he keeps supporting ubuntu/kubuntu. I tried severial  linux os's and untu kubuntu I didnt like any all that much
[05:09] <barros> especifically, DWL-G122, D-Link
[05:09] <_nano_> barros: what's that?
[05:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> MasterEvilAce`LT: Settings > General > Skip creating taskbar entry
[05:09] <barros> wireless adapter, usb
[05:10] <_nano_> barros: aah i see..
[05:10] <MasterEvilAce`LT> CheeseBurgerMan: thx
[05:10] <chx> barros: you want ndiswrapper
[05:11] <barros> yes, i tried.. i'm using it right now under fedora, but didnt work on ubuntu
[05:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> barros: Which version did you try?
[05:11] <barros> i've just installed ubuntu, so I'm new to this distro
[05:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> The one that comes with ubuntu, or the latest?
[05:11] <barros> the last stable one, 5.something
[05:11] <robotgeek> barros: i absolutely hate that card, are you sure it has the exact chipset?
[05:11] <chx> barros: hmmm ask on forum if you do not get an answer here -- i had no problems whatsoever with ndiswrapper (on my laptop which runs Breezy Xubuntu.)
[05:12] <chx> ah, you also run Breezy
[05:12] <chx> strange.
[05:12] <barros> hmm.. i've installed the driver
[05:12] <barros> but when i do a modprobe ndiswrapper, it hangs (just the terminalk)
[05:12] <robin__> any one know if kubuntu runs a hard drive at full speed or do i need to configure something?
[05:12] <barros> dmesg show some kernel oops..
[05:13] <barros> I'll download teh new kubunto when it gets released and try again..
[05:13] <chuck> you know, I think that it might not be the card that the problem is in, but maybe the monitor...
[05:13] <robotgeek> barros: lsusb output please
[05:14] <barros> sory, i'm at fedora now, but it show the D-Link device
[05:14] <chuck> I tryed your xorg.conf file and it crashed Xserver
[05:14] <barros> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 2001:3c00 D-Link Corp. [hex] 
[05:14] <barros> it show something like this.. i think that is it
[05:15] <_nano_> robotgeek: sup
[05:15] <imbrandon> chuck, probbly, becouse i use that card perfect, even with xgl ;)
[05:16] <chuck> brb
[05:16] <robotgeek> barros: cool, you need teh ralink driver
[05:16] <_nano_> imbrandon: yeah yea..gloat!
[05:17] <imbrandon> heh
[05:17] <barros> i think so.. but there was no devel pkg installed, so i dindt try to compile it
[05:17] <barros> i've just tried the same solution I use here, at fedora.. :((
[05:18] <Bilford> tj9991, since you wasted so much time, are you going to download the final release
[05:18] <tj9991> you can upgrade once its installed, right
[05:18] <robotgeek> barros: can guide you thru it on Kubuntu, i am guessing
[05:18] <Bilford> yes
[05:18] <tj9991> then no
[05:19] <_nano_> where can i see the changelog between final release and RC ?
[05:19] <barros> robotgeek: didnt understand what u meant.sorry! :D
[05:19] <imbrandon> _nano_, the dapper -changes mailing list ;)
[05:19] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: i knew i would find you here
[05:19] <_nano_> imbrandon: link please :P
[05:20] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Stalker!
[05:20] <_nano_> haha
[05:20] <DShepherd> :-)
[05:20] <DShepherd> come join the party in #ubuntu we trying to break 1000 :-)
[05:21] <imbrandon> _nano_, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/
[05:21] <_nano_> imbrandon: thanks !
[05:21] <barros> robotgeek: do u use that card?
[05:21] <robotgeek> barros: nope, i use a pci card from ralink
[05:22] <barros> hmm.. use the native driver?
[05:22] <robotgeek> barros: yes, i am on ppc, so gotta use taht driver
[05:23] <chuck> Think its possble to have monitor drivers?
[05:23] <imbrandon> no you set the vsync and hsync of them thats all
[05:23] <barros> robotgeek: i'll wait tomorrow for the final release.. then I'll try that..
[05:23] <robotgeek> barros: okay cool, ping me in here
[05:24] <barros> i'm just switching from fedora
[05:24] <DaSkreech> !frostwire
[05:24] <ubotu> frostwire is probably a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWireHowTo
[05:24] <barros> so, have no ideia about ubuntu, but sounds very cool
[05:24] <barros> robotgeek: thanks
[05:24] <chuck> imbrandon: when I conf my monitor type, and reset xserver, it crashes
[05:24] <robotgeek> barros: no rpm hell for once
[05:25] <chuck> It will crash unless I have a Genetic Monitor
[05:25] <barros> hehe..
[05:25] <barros> robotgeek: anout devel pkgs, is tehre any easy way to install it?
[05:25] <barros> *about
[05:26] <chuck> it says something about "/etc/wacom" or something like tha
[05:26] <chuck> that
[05:26] <robotgeek> barros: yeah, apt-get install build-essential
[05:26] <james_xxx> ok i installed 3.5.3... what do i need to do now, just reboot?
[05:27] <barros> hmmm.. that is great!!
[05:27] <tj9991> !alg3
[05:27] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tj9991
[05:27] <barros> ok, gotta go.. i'm looking forward for tomorrow! :DD
[05:28] <robotgeek> later barros
[05:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> james_xxx: No, just restart kde 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop'
[05:28] <barros> i'll leave my nick hanging here..
[05:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> then you can start it again with 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start'
[05:28] <chuck> I am installing wacom
[05:28] <james_xxx> CheeseBurgerMan: thanks
[05:28] <chuck> see if that helps
[05:28] <barros> robotgeek: thanks for the help..
[05:29] <robotgeek> barros: no problem
[05:29] <_nano_> robotgeek: hows easyubuntu goin?
[05:30] <chuck> brb
[05:30] <word> When I start up Linux the Enterprise Volume manager fails to start so the booting stops...i have to skip it. I get this error repeatedly if I don't skip it - [####.####] Buffer I/O error on device dm-0 Logical block #####
[05:30] <robotgeek> _nano_: works decently well, I should think
[05:30] <_nano_> robotgeek: about the dma thingy...is it necessary?
[05:30] <robotgeek> _nano_: not on dapper, maybe in breezy yes
[05:31] <_nano_> robotgeek: aah ok
[05:31] <word> Any ideas?
[05:32] <robotgeek> word: sorry, i have no clue.
[05:33] <robotgeek> if no one answers in here, also ask in #ubuntu
[05:33] <word> robotgeek: Ok, and i have one more thing uh when i dock something with the bar at the bottom half of it goes 'fuzzy' and if I dock something completely across the bottom bar the entire thing goes 'fuzzy' what could that becaused by?
[05:34] <robotgeek> word: hmm, no clue again. is this default kde?
[05:35] <word> yup
[05:35] <word> It happened soon after a kde-desktop and a nvidia driver update so that may be the cause..
[05:36] <_nano_> what should kde-deskop and nvidia driver have to do with  volume management?
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Does anyone have the http://archive.cessi.net/ubuntu/ repos?
[05:36] <word> _nano_: I'm talking about a different problem now
[05:36] <_nano_> oops
[05:36] <imbrandon> DaSkreech, nope i just use official ones
[05:37] <_nano_> word: could you post a screenshot?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Thats supposed to have the musicbrainz with mp3
[05:37] <chuck> It says "No Video BOIS modes to use"    what does this mean?
[05:38] <chuck> BIOS*
[05:38] <DaSkreech> Or if anyone had musicbrainz with mp3 as a deb that would be cool :-)
[05:39] <chuck> "No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth"*
[05:39] <chuck> Thats what it says
[05:40] <dr_willis> sounds like your chosen video mode. is not  allowed with the depth (# of colors) you wish to use.
[05:41] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: More like trying to get to 925 :-)
[05:41] <chuck> But if I set that up with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it works, when I change the monitor it no longer works
[05:41] <DShepherd> ok
[05:41] <chuck> unless I use Genetic Monitor
[05:42] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: You use Limewire or frostwire?
[05:42] <DShepherd> Limewire
[05:42] <DaSkreech> ok
[05:42] <DaSkreech> You use sun java or balckdown?
[05:42] <DaSkreech> blackdown?
[05:43] <DShepherd> sun
[05:43] <DaSkreech> 4 or 5?
[05:43] <K|NgGh0sT> It
[05:43] <DShepherd> 5
[05:43] <DaSkreech> ok Cool :)
[05:44] <word> _nano_: I've tried it the fuzziness doesn't show on screenshots
[05:44] <K|NgGh0sT> How can I stop Kubuntu from displaying "DISPLAY CHANGED: LCD On" Every 5 mins?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> Hmm I have to install dev files to for flac to get mp3 to work :-)
[05:44] <DaSkreech> Cool :)
[05:44] <scarn> anyone know why when i reboot to windows my clock is 5 hours ahead? i have kubuntu and windows on seperate drives. k/ubuntu (breezy and dapper) both do this, no other distros i have tried do this..
[05:45] <_nano_> scarn: check if your machine is set at local time?
[05:45] <OmniD> K|NgGh0sT has a question as well
[05:45] <_nano_> word: wow thats weird
[05:46] <mister_roboto> scarn: i noticed that one computer i installed dapper on is set to time zone UTC, and when i change the time zone to my local one, it stays stuck on UTC. I had to add another time zone and display the clock as that, even thoguh the clock stays stuck on UTC
[05:46] <scarn> _nano_ in kubuntu? it is set to local
[05:46] <word> _nano_: I tried getting istanbul to work to take a video of it but it freaked out when i tried to do something at 30fps
[05:46] <OmniD> word: I think your FSAA settings are up or something
[05:46] <word> OmniD: FSAA? O.o how would I set those right?
[05:46] <mister_roboto> scarn: that is, the "local time zone" stays stuck on UTC, which happens to be 5 hours ahead of central time, my real local time zone
[05:46] <_nano_> word: try the usual ksnapshot?
[05:47] <scarn> yea im central aswell
[05:47] <scarn> pita this is heh
[05:47] <word> _nano_: I tried it but it doesn't show it.
[05:48] <_nano_> word: :S
[05:48] <mister_roboto> scarn: you can add more time zones to the clock display and pick that one to show the time. e.g., i added "chicago" there and use that to display the clock. however if i do "date" on the command line, it's still UTC.
[05:48] <DaSkreech> ubotu: Tell DShepherd about frostwire
[05:48] <troy> bloody nick thieves
[05:49] <scarn> mister_roboto hmm, i have it set ti chicago.. maybe ill add menominee aswell. see if that does it
[05:49] <word> !fsaa
[05:49] <ubotu> word: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:50] <OmniD> word: No clue I haven't even used ubuntu in a while teehee
[05:50] <word> OmniD: meh ><
[05:50] <OmniD> but FSAA stands for Full-scene anti-alaising
[05:50] <OmniD> It might be the cause WHO KNOWS
[05:52] <K|NgGh0sT> hrmm
[05:52] <K|NgGh0sT> well this is usefull
[05:54] <DaveQB11> imbrandon: no HTML or text versions of your resume ?
[05:55] <DaSkreech> ok
[05:55] <DaSkreech> adept just crashed
[05:55] <DaSkreech> not good
[05:56] <feetboy16> erm still having issues with my wallpaper in kde, DaSkreech, are you there?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> feetboy16: yup
[05:57] <feetboy16> did you find where KDE stores the info for the wallpaper?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> Sorry got caught up helping someone else
[05:58] <K|NgGh0sT> How can I stop Kubuntu from displaying "DISPLAY CHANGED: LCD On" Every 5 mins?
[05:58] <feetboy16> oki doki
[05:58] <K|NgGh0sT> feetboy16: /usr/share/wallpaper
[05:58] <feetboy16> ok
[05:59] <feetboy16> thats not quite what i was looking for
[05:59] <feetboy16> the problem is nothing i do seems to change the kde wallpaper
[05:59] <imbrandon> DaveQB11, i havent updated it in a while
[05:59] <james_xxx> ok , i THINK i installed KDE 3.5.3, how do i know for sure that it took? it all looks and feels the same
[06:00] <dr_willis> use the 'about kde' menu item.
[06:00] <DaveQB11> imbrandon: i see
[06:00] <dr_willis> :P
[06:00] <DaveQB11> :)
[06:04] <DaSkreech> feetboy16: look in ~/.kde/share/config?
[06:04] <feetboy16> ok
[06:04] <feetboy16> ahhh theres so many :S
[06:05] <feetboy16> but i found it
[06:05] <feetboy16> i dont know what to change the values to of course
[06:06] <DaSkreech> feetboy16: Which one?
[06:07] <DaSkreech> displayconfigrc?
[06:07] <feetboy16> ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc
[06:09] <DaSkreech> feetboy16: pastebin what yours says
[06:09] <feetboy16> pastebin link plz?
[06:09] <PyroMithrandir> !pastebin
[06:09] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[06:10] <feetboy16> ty
[06:11] <feetboy16> odd, the pastebin page isnt coming up for me O_o
[06:11] <james_xxx> i don't think i have an 'about KDE' menu item lol
[06:11] <feetboy16> you do
[06:11] <feetboy16> right click the panel
[06:12] <feetboy16> highlight help, then about KDE
[06:13] <K|NgGh0sT> What's a good FTP Client?
[06:13] <robotgeek> K|NgGh0sT: i use konqueror
[06:14] <james_xxx> feetboy16: ty
[06:14] <thompa> gftp
[06:14] <feetboy16> the about KDE option is found in nearly every KDE application, just so you know, james :-)
[06:14] <DaSkreech> feetboy16: try http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[06:14] <K|NgGh0sT> That works
[06:15] <K|NgGh0sT> Thanks
[06:15] <feetboy16> ok ty das
[06:15] <thompa> I always end up using gftp, its fast and simple, works well with digikam
[06:16] <K|NgGh0sT> ANyone that can help me get rid of KDE constantly going Display Change: LCD On?
[06:16] <paperangel> can anyone tell me how to correctly install a broadcom chipset
[06:16] <feetboy16> oh no wonder this is going so slowly, i forgot i had synaptic going :$
[06:17] <feetboy16> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14941
[06:17] <DaSkreech> K|NgGh0sT: have you tried in #kde
[06:20] <DaSkreech> feetboy16: Looks like the Color1 and Color2 entries can go
[06:21] <feetboy16> ok
[06:21] <feetboy16> all of them?
[06:21] <DaSkreech> feetboy16: How many times have you logged in multiple users on the same Xserver?
[06:22] <feetboy16> only once, ever
[06:22] <DaSkreech> I was just noticing that it's very convulted :)
[06:22] <feetboy16> oh
[06:22] <DaSkreech> feetboy16: Want me to give you a pretty much default one so you can start over?
[06:22] <feetboy16> yes please
[06:23] <DaSkreech> you can back that one up if you like
[06:24] <DaSkreech> feetboy16: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14942
[06:24] <feetboy16> thank you
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Log out and back in and tell me if it works
[06:25] <feetboy16> it worked
[06:25] <feetboy16> lol
[06:25] <feetboy16> thanks das :-)
[06:27] <feetboy16> while im here i might as well ask how you put the trash bin on the desktop?
[06:28] <DaSkreech> You add a launcher
[06:28] <DaSkreech> to trash:/
[06:29] <feetboy16> and that will handle the icon changing ness?
[06:31] <chuck> Well this is intressing, I got the screen to 800x600 but all the applations are still at 640x480
[06:33] <chuck> Where is the default RES saved, in xorg.conf?
[06:33] <chuck> I can not find it in there?
[06:33] <PyroMithrandir> chuck, in the Screen section, Display Subsection
[06:33] <PyroMithrandir> "Modes"
[06:34] <PyroMithrandir> and look at wha the "DefaultDepth" line is
[06:34] <PyroMithrandir> and the Display subsection with that depth is the default
[06:34] <PyroMithrandir> the resolution is the first thing in the "Modes" line
[06:36] <chuck> PyroMithrandir, ok, I see that, but that is not what its being set at
[06:38] <chuck> occording to the system information programie its at 640x480, and I agree with the apps being at that, but the background is at a higher res
[06:39] <PyroMithrandir> chuck, what do you mean the apps are at that but the background is higher?
[06:40] <chuck> like all the background pic and the sreen size all got bigger (I even had to adjust my monitor) but the appliations like Konversation still has the same size letters and a big look
[06:40] <chuck> one sec
[06:40] <chuck> I wanna try something
[06:40] <chuck> I am going to find a pic online that is at my screen res
[06:40] <chuck> brb
[06:41] <mrfishhat> tomorrow?
[06:42] <DaSkreech> tommorow today
[06:42] <DaSkreech> tomorrow comes today :-)
[06:42] <mrfishhat> by tomorrowi mean the dapper release
[06:42] <nixternal> muahah releases
[06:42] <mrfishhat> but
[06:43] <mrfishhat> what time zone are they using?
[06:46] <nixternal> you guys are all to late
[06:46] <nixternal> [23:37]  <robinl1> Final release will be one week later than usual, to allow for extra non-invasive polish-only changes, settling, testing, documentation of errata and bugs, and the taking of a collective deep breath before MDZ rolls the ISOs. This will not affect the release date for Dapper+1 (that is, the Dapper+1 release cycle will be shortened by one week).
[06:46] <nixternal> next week everybody
[06:47] <nixternal> JUST KIDDING!!!!
[06:47] <nixternal> gotcha
[06:47] <bimberi> one of the better ones so far
[06:47] <chuck> ok I am on 640x480
[06:48] <nixternal> my pda is on 640x480 ;)
[06:48] <chuck> Even though that sould be inpossable
[06:48] <chuck> Modes           "1024x768" "800x600"
[06:48] <chuck> brb
[06:51] <vinboy> should I restart linux after installing new kde?
[06:51] <mrfishhat> just restart x
[06:51] <Lynoure> vinboy: Restart xserver, that should be enough
[06:51] <mrfishhat> alt-ctrl-backspace
[06:52] <vinboy> thanks Lynoure
[06:52] <vinboy> the mrfishhat
[06:52] <Xaero_Vincent> cool.. KDE 3.5.3 is gonna make it in 6.06.. but could that introduce last minute problems?
[06:54] <aseigo_boston> Xaero_Vincent: it could. but it's been banged on pretty hard at this point.
[06:55] <aseigo_boston> Xaero_Vincent: the fixes in 3.5.3 are qualified bug fixes, translation updates and new features that have already shipped in distros already (as part of customizations of the 3.5 tree for those distros)
[06:55] <DaSkreech> aseigo_boston: And beyond!!!!
[06:55] <aseigo_boston> hahah.. yeah. AND BEYOND
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Shouldn't we all?
[06:56] <aseigo_boston> well, i'm -supposed- to be cogent at 09:00
[06:56] <vinboy> brb guys
[06:56] <aseigo_boston> something i don't usually do
[06:56] <vinboy> just upgraded to kde 3.5.3
[06:56] <chuck> How can I setup Xserver to use RAM for video RAM?
[06:59] <mrfishhat> you know one thing im hoping dapper will asist me with?
[06:59] <mrfishhat> The audio video sync with macromedia flash
[07:00] <chuck> ?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> So when do the torrents go?
[07:06] <DaSkreech>  up?
[07:07] <DShepherd> when its time
[07:08] <mrfishhat> anyone know what time zone?
[07:08] <Xaero_Vincent> yea Im gonna get Kubuntu this time... instead of Gubuntu... 800 bug fixes for 3.5.3 is sweet.
[07:09] <mrfishhat> kubuntu is where its at
[07:09] <mrfishhat> i mean i dont mind gnome
[07:09] <mrfishhat> but
[07:09] <mrfishhat> its not KDE
[07:09] <Xaero_Vincent> KDE 4 will eat Gnome for lunch... sshhh
[07:09] <mrfishhat> 3.5 eats gnome hardcore
[07:10] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: That's not soon enough :-(
[07:10] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: well it will have to do
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Mising out on the party in edubuntu? :)
[07:11] <mrfishhat> what WM does edu use?
[07:11] <Xaero_Vincent> not many people are interesting in that
[07:11] <DShepherd> there's a party there too?
[07:11] <Xaero_Vincent> Gnome
[07:11] <DaSkreech> Xaero_Vincent: Edubuntu or gnome?
[07:11] <Xaero_Vincent> it seems thats for little school kids
[07:11] <Xaero_Vincent> Edubuntu uses gnome
[07:11] <mrfishhat> well it doesnt matter
[07:12] <mrfishhat> as long as the kubuntu dapper comes out ASAP
[07:12] <Xaero_Vincent> Metacity to be exact :)
[07:18] <DaSkreech> It has a bunch of KDe stuff in it too
[07:18] <DaSkreech> It's quite good for all sorts of learning stuff
[07:19] <DaSkreech>  for example it has a planetarium which works with telescopes
[07:19] <oomph> how is 6.06?
[07:19] <fatejudger> this is so exciting
[07:19] <fatejudger> like waiting for the ball to drop, except it happens twice a year
[07:20] <oomph> what debian repository is the new 6.06 based off?
[07:20] <crimsun> oomph: sid at various points, so in reality, none
[07:21] <oomph> how up to date is the new version going to be kept?
[07:21] <fatejudger> is Edgy even going to sync with debian anymore?
[07:23] <mrfishhat> GHNS?
[07:26] <DaSkreech> Get hot new Stuff
[07:26] <mrfishhat> well
[07:26] <mrfishhat> does anyone have a dapper countdown timer?
[07:27] <fatejudger> lol
[07:27] <mrfishhat> i heard june 1st
[07:27] <fatejudger> someone should have made a superkaramba widget for that
[07:27] <fatejudger> yeah, but it's around June 1st
[07:27] <fatejudger> not midnight
[07:27] <mrfishhat> damn
[07:27] <fatejudger> kind of takes the suspense out of it
[07:27] <mrfishhat> i was planning to stay up.
[07:28] <fatejudger> I usually do
[07:28] <fatejudger> it'll come out in a couple of hours most likely
[07:28] <mrfishhat> i think it adds more suspense
[07:28] <fatejudger> heh, ya
[07:28] <mrfishhat> because in the morning
[07:28] <fatejudger> the only reason I care about getting the final is so I can format
[07:28] <fatejudger> I really fucked up some config files
[07:28] <mrfishhat> ouch
[07:28] <fatejudger> yeah
[07:29] <fatejudger> I also have this weird problem where my computer hangs at shutdown
[07:29] <fatejudger> and I noticed that usplash shutdown was broken again
[07:29] <fatejudger> they've seemed to have a lot of trouble with that
[07:30] <oomph> new kubunto looks pretty good
[07:30] <oomph> ive been using xandros :)
[07:30] <oomph> might be a good substitute
[07:32] <Xaero_Vincent> Metacity to be exact :)
[07:32] <Xaero_Vincent> oops
[07:32] <oomph> hrmm is it possible to su to root within ubunto?
[07:32] <Xaero_Vincent> lol
[07:33] <DaveQB11> oomph:  sudo su
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Whats the changelog for kde 3.5.3?
[07:33] <oomph> i dont recall setting up a pw for root during installation
[07:33] <Xaero_Vincent> like 800 bug fixes!
[07:33] <Xaero_Vincent> thats awasome
[07:33] <DaveQB11> oomph: its the main user you set ups' password
[07:33] <DaveQB11> man I wronte that really badly.
[07:33] <DaveQB11> wrote
[07:33] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: try it out
[07:33] <oomph> gotcha
[07:33] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: startup is blazing fast
[07:34] <oomph> so you just do sudo su
[07:34] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: plus a huge amount of KHTML optimizations
[07:34] <Snake[Sleep] > howto mount iso?
[07:34] <oomph> and use main user credentials
[07:34] <DaveQB11> oomph: there's no root by default
[07:34] <DaveQB11> oomph:  just admin users that are allowed to sudo
[07:34] <oomph> ok, cool that makes sense
[07:34] <DaveQB11> oomph:  I created root myself on my system
[07:34] <oomph> yeah, ill give this sudo method a shot
[07:34] <oomph> otherwise ill do likewise
[07:35] <oomph> and create a root account
[07:35] <DaveQB11> oomph:  i am slowly getting used to it
[07:35] <DaSkreech> ah Bloody sun!
[07:35] <noiesmo> oomph, sudo -i
[07:35] <DaSkreech> How do I install the sun java from adept?
[07:35] <Snake[Sleep] > DaSkreech: cant
[07:35] <DaveQB11> so where's Dapper !!!!
[07:35] <Snake[Sleep] > DaSkreech: only works with synaptic
[07:35] <Xaero_Vincent> root isnt a smart idea... especially since Ubuntu doesnt include other kernel security features like Mandatory Access Control.
[07:35] <DaSkreech> really?
[07:35] <fatejudger> Snake[Sleep] : that's completely incorrect
[07:35] <Snake[Sleep] > O really??
[07:35] <DaSkreech> nice time to mention this :(
[07:36] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: it isn't a matter Adept/Synaptic
[07:36] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: you have to add the right repos
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Snake[Sleep] : so kill adept?
[07:36] <Snake[Sleep] > Last time I tried, I needed the liscense verified
[07:36] <DaSkreech> fatejudger: It's in universe
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Right
[07:36] <Snake[Sleep] > annnddd adept wouldnt do that
[07:36] <Snake[Sleep] > synaptic does
[07:36] <DaSkreech> so kill adept?
[07:36] <Snake[Sleep] > if you wish
[07:36] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: no, it's in a third party repo
[07:36] <Snake[Sleep] > DaSkreech: fatejudger may have a better way tho
[07:36] <Xaero_Vincent> Is Adept as good as Synaptic..?
[07:36] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: if you're talking about the proprietary version of java
[07:37] <Xaero_Vincent> i usually just use command line
[07:37] <fatejudger> Xaero_Vincent: better, IMO
[07:37] <Snake[Sleep] > howto mount isos?
[07:37] <fatejudger> Xaero_Vincent: I do too, but if I didn't have that I'd use Adept
[07:37] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, there are 3 basic steps to create a java sun package for kubuntu
[07:37] <DaSkreech> I like it better than synaptic except that it has no changelogs and now I findo ut that I can't interact with prompts
[07:37] <DaveQB11> Snake[Sleep] :  mount -o loop file.iso folder
[07:37] <fatejudger> !tell DaSkreech about java
[07:37] <oomph> what exactly does sudo -i do? i read the man pages but don't quite get it
[07:37] <Snake[Sleep] > DaveQB11: thanks man
[07:37] <DaveQB11> Snake[Sleep] :  no problems
[07:38] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: just use the Seveas repo to get java, super easy
[07:38] <noiesmo> oomph, basically logs you in as root temperorally man bad spelling
[07:38] <DaveQB11> noiesmo: lol
[07:38] <DaSkreech> fatejudger: It's in the repos alreasy
[07:38] <DaSkreech> already
[07:38] <oomph> so what would the syntax be?
[07:38] <oomph> sudo -i su
[07:38] <oomph> ?
[07:38] <noiesmo> oomph, no just sudo -i
[07:39] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: no it isn't
[07:39] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: not the proprietary one
[07:39] <oomph> ok, and it only lasts for that terminal session?>
[07:39] <DaSkreech> fatejudger: I just tried to install it!
[07:39] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, I have three commandline steps you can make a java package for kubuntu from the sun package
[07:39] <DaSkreech> It's asking me to agree to the sun agreement
[07:39] <DaveQB11> oomph:  using sudo remembers you have authenticated for a period after, in that term session
[07:39] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: really?
[07:39] <DaSkreech> fatejudger: Yes
[07:39] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: which package is it?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> sun-java5jre
[07:40] <mrfishhat> LOUNGE
[07:40] <DaSkreech> or sun-java5bin
[07:40] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: wow, and that's in universe now?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> I think they are the same thing
[07:40] <oomph> then what exactly is the differrences between doing sudo su and sudo -i ?
[07:40] <oomph> since both allow you to run as root
[07:40] <DaSkreech> fatejudger: yes Sun made a big deal about it and held a press conference
[07:40] <oomph> sorry if im being dense :) i just began using linux on Xandros
[07:41] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: I had no idea, this is really cool
[07:41] <noiesmo> oomph, sudo -i is the recommended way suggest here by most support peoples
[07:41] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: jre depends on bin
[07:41] <Snake[Sleep] > fatejudger: now do you see what I was talking about?? lol
[07:41] <DaveQB11> oomph: more a technical/appearance.  sudo you stay as you, but subsequent sudo's do not need a password
[07:41] <Snake[Sleep] > :)
[07:41] <DaSkreech> fatejudger: If it would blooming install
[07:41] <Snake[Sleep] > DaSkreech: im tellin ya dude, synaptic.
[07:42] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: I can't wait for Java-KDE integration
[07:42] <fatejudger> Snake[Sleep] : he already figured it out
[07:42] <Snake[Sleep] > fatejudger: i see..
[07:42] <oomph> is it possible to add the debian repositories to the apt sources list?
[07:42] <fatejudger> Snake[Sleep] : obviously you don't know much about Linux, both Adept and Synaptic are frontends for a program called aptitude
[07:42] <_nano_> fatejudger: java-KDE integration? like?
[07:42] <oomph> without breaking crap
[07:42] <fatejudger> _nano_: like not using the stupid Motif look and feel for Swing
[07:43] <DaSkreech> whats that dpkg --reconfigure -a command?
[07:43] <fatejudger> Snake[Sleep] : in other words, they do the same thing
[07:43] <noiesmo> oomph, not recommended but I do use deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main for mplayer etc
[07:43] <noiesmo> oomph, i'm running kubuntu dapper and havent had any problems
[07:43] <Snake[Sleep] > fatejudger: I know that, all I know is I hit that problem he seemed to be having of it not installing, thats because you have to accept a licesnse agreement, adept (when I used it about a week ago) wouldnt verify this license. Perhaps its changed, but synaptic did let me
[07:44] <oomph> noiesmo : so anything from the SID tree would work but not exactly recommended, correct?
[07:44] <fatejudger> Snake[Sleep] : in Dapper you can click "show details" to do that
[07:44] <fatejudger> Snake[Sleep] : inside of Adept
[07:44] <oomph> yeah im running dapper as well
[07:44] <DaSkreech> fatejudger: Didn't work
[07:44] <fatejudger> what didn't?
[07:44] <DaSkreech> I always have the deatils open
[07:44] <DaSkreech> details
[07:44] <noiesmo> oomph, I would say yes from personnal experience running kubuntu last 6 months used debian before that for years
[07:44] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: shit, I just tried it to
[07:44] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: that's a bunch of BS
[07:45] <Snake[Sleep] > fatejudger: thats is what I thought too, it didnt work, hence why I said synaptic
[07:45] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: it must use ncurses or something stupid
[07:45] <fatejudger> Snake[Sleep] : or CLI...
[07:45] <Snake[Sleep] > My apt-get wouldnt do it.
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Well it uses my curses
[07:45] <oomph> noiesmo: have you tried using the "pinning" I read about it on the debian site
[07:45] <Snake[Sleep] > I didnt try aptitude
[07:45] <oomph> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version
[07:45] <noiesmo> oomph, only on my debian installs
[07:45] <oomph> you can set priority when you have multiple repositories or something
[07:46] <oomph> i would imagine it would work for kubunto source list as well
[07:46] <fatejudger> Snake[Sleep] : it works in the CLI
[07:46] <Snake[Sleep] > Hmmm
[07:46] <fatejudger> Snake[Sleep] : I hate curses....
[07:46] <noiesmo> oomph, more than likely kubuntu is a debian derivitive
[07:46] <Snake[Sleep] > Updates perhaps, as I said, I tried it about 6 days ago, I would hope theyve been gettin it to work for the release tomorrow on all fronts
[07:47] <oomph> noiesmo: how long have you been running Kubunto? did you run debian for a long time prior?
[07:47] <noiesmo> oomph, about six months with kubuntu and about 2-3years running debian
[07:47] <oomph> have you ever tried xandros?
[07:48] <oomph> its debian based as well
[07:48] <oomph> i originally learned some linux on debian but coming from windows it was a bit of a leap
[07:48] <oomph> i liked the debian system so gave xandros a shot
[07:48] <noiesmo> oomph, no, havnt tried only went to kubuntu for xgl/compiz eye candy
[07:48] <mrfishhat> in the ubuntu site
[07:48] <mrfishhat> on the forums
[07:48] <DaSkreech> what would lock /var/cache/debconf/config.dat?
[07:48] <mrfishhat> they have dapper as the current release
[07:49] <oomph> this new version of Kubunto is lots like xandros
[07:49] <DaSkreech> found it
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Yay and Frostwire doesn't work!!
[07:52] <oomph> found this guide
[07:52] <oomph> http://www.krazypenguin.net/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide#Welcome_to_the_Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide_.21.21.21
[07:52] <oomph> seems pretty useful
[07:52] <oomph> for newbs like myself :)
[07:54] <noiesmo> oomph, cool :)
[07:54] <DaSkreech> !frostwire
[07:54] <ubotu> frostwire is, like, totally, a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWireHowTo
[07:56] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, frostwire needs java 1.5+ and also you may need to run a dos2unix command to correct a packageing error
[07:56] <DaSkreech> noiesmo: The wiki page has a update-alternatives fix that fixes the problem
[07:57] <DaSkreech> noiesmo: Thanks
[07:57] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, np
[07:57] <DaSkreech> So I just need musicbrainz and I'll be happy for a week at least
[08:03] <Mussorgsky> why on earth does Ctrl+Tab not work?
[08:05] <oomph> can't apt-get install mozzilla
[08:05] <oomph> its not in the repository
[08:05] <noiesmo> oomph, mozilla not mozzila
[08:05] <noiesmo> oomph, firefox is mozilla-firefox
[08:05] <Lynoure> Mussorgsky: In which context?
[08:05] <noiesmo> maybe you want Alt+Tab
[08:06] <DaveQB11> oomph:  use an apt-get frontend and search, makes life easier ;-)
[08:06] <DaveQB11> oomph:  adept has servered me wll
[08:07] <DaveQB11> who else finds the chick in the "Desktop" image on the Ubuntu eb site, hot ?
[08:07] <noiesmo> apt-cache search keyword's is always good
[08:07] <DaveQB11> eb=web
[08:07] <mrfishhat> the chick above server?
[08:07] <DaveQB11> noiesmo: i prefer the GUI way ;-)
[08:07] <Mussorgsky> Lynoure: KDE, to switch desktops
[08:07] <DaveQB11> mrfishhat:  no no, Desktop
[08:08] <mrfishhat> ah she looks like a 15year old asian girl
[08:08] <DaveQB11> nahhhh
[08:08] <DaveQB11> at least 17 :)
[08:09] <Mussorgsky> also, I can't play mp3s... just installed gstreamer0.8-mad but it
[08:09] <Mussorgsky> didn't solve it
[08:09] <oomph> yeah i tried adept but could not find it there either
[08:09] <crimsun> Mussorgsky: in dapper or breezy?
[08:09] <Mussorgsky> dapper
[08:09] <crimsun> Mussorgsky: and which app are you using to play mp3s?
[08:09] <mrfishhat> does anyone know if theres a way to get xgl/compiz and twinview working together?
[08:09] <noiesmo> oomph, what you app you looking for
[08:10] <Bilford> for dapper mp3, you need   sudo apt-get libxine-extracodecs
[08:10] <Mussorgsky> just installed kubuntu dapper, using amarok or kaffeine to play
[08:10] <crimsun> Mussorgsky: you need to enable universe + multiverse and install libxine-extracodecs
[08:10] <Mussorgsky> ok, thanks :) this solves mp3
[08:10] <crimsun> gst0.8 is deprecated.
[08:10] <Bilford> what does XMMS use?
[08:10] <crimsun> an internal mpg123-based lib.
[08:11] <Bilford> my laptop likes that bettter for ogg
[08:11] <Bilford> the libxine sounded scratchy
[08:11] <Mussorgsky> now, how can I switch desktops ? (or better, configure the shortcut) ctrl+f1 f2 etc is no good, I have to move my hands a lot for that
[08:11] <Bilford> sounds fine on my desktop though
[08:13] <oomph> when i use adept to search for mozilla i find it but its greyed out
[08:13] <Bilford> sounds like you need to enable multiverse or universe
[08:14] <oomph> i do not see that as an option within the gui
[08:14] <chavo> mrfishhat, yes you can get twinview and xgl working together
[08:15] <Bilford> System- Adept
[08:15] <Bilford> after Adept is open, go to Adept- Manage Repositories
[08:16] <mrfishhat> chavo: have you done it? if so i would like to know where to start
[08:16] <Bilford> enable the grayed out lines that have text in the Distribution/Components columns
[08:16] <chavo> mrfishhat, yes I have it working
[08:16] <chavo> did you enable the quinstorm repos?
[08:17] <Bilford> Apply -  then Fetch Updates
[08:17] <mrfishhat> quinstorm?
[08:17] <chavo> it's an updated xgl and compiz
[08:17] <Bilford> oomph, are you doing all this
[08:17] <mrfishhat> chavo: interesting
[08:17] <oomph> yes
[08:17] <oomph> thanks bilford
[08:17] <oomph> i think i gots it
[08:18] <mrfishhat> chavo: i must add it to my sources?
[08:18] <oomph> i see the source list you are refering to
[08:18] <chavo> mrfishhat, yes that's the easiest way
[08:18] <oomph> so enable universe and multiverse then?
[08:18] <Bilford> enable the grayed out lines that have text in the Distribution/Components columns (by right-clicking them and Enabling)
[08:18] <Bilford> yes
[08:18] <Bilford> then Apply -  then Fetch Updates
[08:18] <mrfishhat> chavo: is that the beerorkid ones?
[08:19] <chavo> yes
[08:19] <mrfishhat> its late here
[08:19] <mrfishhat> chavo: i bookmarked those and im off to bed but thanks for telling me it works, i can NEVER go back to just one monitor
[08:20] <chavo> yeah me neither
[08:21] <oomph> bilford, thanks for the help. I did an apt-get update
[08:21] <Bilford> ok
[08:21] <oomph> and seems to have added the repositories
[08:22] <mrfishhat> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[08:22] <mrfishhat> ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/.pool/
[08:22] <oomph> which is better? firefox or regular mozilla?
[08:23] <_nano_> regular mozilla?
[08:23] <_nano_> seamonkey? :P
[08:23] <me2win> oomph: firefox
[08:23] <me2win> oomph: mozilla is a little bloated
[08:23] <oomph> k
[08:24] <Bilford> I like Konqueror
[08:25] <mrfishhat> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[08:25] <mrfishhat> just for those like me who want to start downloading the dapper final
[08:25] <oomph> which irc client is best? ive only used xchat from my debian days. Are there any better ones since?
[08:26] <Bilford> everyone has their own preference
[08:26] <me2win> oomph: konversation is good for KDE
[08:26] <Bilford> I like Konversation
[08:26] <mrfishhat> Konversation
[08:26] <me2win> oomph: but I use xchat because it has word filtering, with Konversation doesn't have
[08:26] <Bilford> Im not a Kubuntu mouthpiece.  I really do like Konqueror and Konversation
[08:27] <n3storm> me2win, what is word filtering for?
[08:27] <word> stop saying word ><
[08:27] <me2win> n3storm: when you cuss alot like me, i type in f*ck and comes out at f*ck
[08:27] <me2win> as*
[08:27] <james_xxx> is it possible to copy text in xchat? i was never able to, that was always my big issue with it
[08:27] <n3storm> aah, hehehe
[08:28] <n3storm> ass
[08:28] <n3storm> nope
[08:28] <n3storm> hehehe
[08:29] <stevekl> Is it not possible to steam a dvd over LAN?
[08:29] <me2win> lol
[08:30] <cfraz89> stevekl: yep
[08:30] <cfraz89> nmm is tailored for stuff like that
[08:30] <stevekl> nmm?
[08:31] <stevekl> What's that exactly?
[08:31] <cfraz89> http://www.networkmultimedia.org/
[08:31] <cfraz89> its a multimedia framework
[08:31] <cfraz89> made for network integration
[08:32] <cfraz89> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=30100
[08:32] <cfraz89> and that is a good frontend for it i think
[08:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there, is there a way in mplayer of filtering the visualized video sequence in the same way a television does?
[08:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> a CRT i mean.. when i watch a lo-quality movie on a crt it looks  way better
[08:37] <Lynoure> Tallia1Kubuntu: On tv it every other line, then the others. But that does not happen on a computer CRT. And on LCD it might even look bad, but sorry, no idea how to force it.
[08:37] <Lynoure> s/it every/it shows every
[08:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ??
[08:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> on ty it every other line, then the others? doesn't make any sense to me.....
[08:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and the second phrase even worse.. !?!?!?
[08:38] <n3storm> anybody using 3.5.3?
[08:39] <n3storm> www.kubuntu.org server looks down
[08:40] <n3storm> any admin in this channel?
[08:40] <crimsun> it's not at all down.
[08:40] <_nano_> n3storm: it's working for me
[08:40] <n3storm> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[08:40] <n3storm> can you reach this page, please
[08:40] <crimsun> yes.
[08:40] <chavo> works here
[08:40] <n3storm> now yes
[08:40] <n3storm> hehehe
[08:40] <n3storm> thanks
[08:40] <_nano_> lol
[08:41] <n3storm> Internet is a bit starnge this days in Spain, sorry, false alarm
[08:48] <dein> i cant get azureus to work on my computer
[08:48] <dein> i think its the version of java ive got
[08:50] <cfraz89> dein, you need sun java
[08:50] <cfraz89> and you have to rename the gcj /usr/bin/java to something else
[08:50] <cfraz89> and then link the sun java to /usr/bin/java
[08:51] <fatejudger> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:52] <dein> ok thanks
[08:55] <dein> it still doesnt work ; ;
[08:56] <fatejudger> well you didn't install sun's java
[08:57] <Vampis> when u want to run a jar-file
[08:57] <Vampis> is it java -jar filename.jar ?
[08:59] <dein> ive got the plf version of sun java
[09:00] <ssaj> t-1
[09:02] <serenity> hi
[09:04] <serenity> everytime i want to configure a programm, shell give me this http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1303/
[09:04] <chakie_work> do you have a c compiler installed?
[09:04] <chakie_work> kubuntu doesn't install one by default...
[09:05] <serenity> i did apt-get install gcc
[09:06] <ash211> try apt-get install build-essential also
[09:06] <ash211> that includes more than just gcc
[09:06] <chakie_work> it's always a hassle to get a ubuntu system up an running as a development system
[09:07] <serenity> seems, there are no sources, but uni and multiserve are included
[09:07] <serenity> i mean multiverse
[09:07] <oomph> anyone know how to setup kubunto to log into an active directory domain?
[09:08] <Vampis> hm, activity
[09:08] <Vampis> repeating myself then :)
[09:08] <Vampis> when u want to run a jar-file
[09:08] <Vampis> is it java -jar filename.jar ?
[09:08] <oomph> kinda the way xandros biz edition does
[09:09] <dein> ok
[09:10] <dein> ive got the latest version of java installed now
[09:10] <dein> azureus loads but then freezes showing "azureus did not shut down tidily"
[09:11] <fatejudger> dein: why are you using Azureus anyway?
[09:11] <fatejudger> dein: it sucks, use KTorrent instead
[09:11] <serenity> where to find the build-essential
[09:11] <DaveQB11> can one use the Desktop Live CD's to install to a partition of your choice ? Or it does it for you , no choice, full wipe out of disk?
[09:11] <Vampis> serenity: sudo apt-get install build-essential ?
[09:11] <DaveQB11> ktorent rocks!
[09:11] <serenity> my fault.
[09:11] <dein> ive yet to get ktorrent to download anywhere near as fast as azureus
[09:11] <serenity> did essenitalS
[09:12] <dein> i cant get its upnp plugin to work
[09:12] <oomph> sudo tar jxvf Azureus_2.4.0.2_linux.tar.bz2 -C /opt
[09:12] <oomph> sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/azureus.desktop
[09:12] <DaveQB11> speed is al relevant to everyone else that file
[09:12] <chakie_work> ktorrent is good
[09:12] <fatejudger> dein: technically, there shouldn't be a speed difference
[09:12] <chakie_work> it *can* crash, but it gets stuff downloaded
[09:12] <fatejudger> chakie_work: ktorrent doesn't crash
[09:12] <fatejudger> chakie_work: at least if you use 1.2 it doesn't
[09:13] <chakie_work> yes it does
[09:13] <chakie_work> 1.2 something
[09:14] <dein> Fatejudger: it might have something to do with my router, i dont know
[09:14] <fatejudger> chakie_work: file a bug report then
[09:14] <chakie_work> when i remove a perpetually stalled or a completed download it does crash, maybe once every 5 times
[09:14] <fatejudger> chakie_work: weird, never happened to me
[09:14] <chakie_work> fatejudger: heh, and that means that it can't happen?
[09:14] <chakie_work> fatejudger: are you a developer?
[09:16] <fatejudger> chakie_work: for KTorrent, no
[09:16] <chakie_work> apart from the crashes i love ktorrent
[09:16] <fatejudger> chakie_work: it means there should be some reproducible error
[09:16] <chakie_work> it doesn't seem to lose data so i can restart it if it dies
[09:16] <cfraz89> ktorrent 2.0 beta is good
[09:16] <dein> oomph
[09:16] <fatejudger> that's out?
[09:17] <dein> im running kubuntu
[09:17] <chakie_work> fatejudger: sure, but i download very little stuff, so it's not too easy to reproduce
[09:17] <dein> will sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/azureus.desktop still work for me?
[09:18] <fatejudger> do the 5.10 packages work on Dapper?
[09:19] <cfraz89> its not in apt-get, but the ubuntu package is at kde-apps.org
[09:21] <chakie_work> i'll have to compile it :)
[09:23] <imbrandon> dein, no "kdesu kate /usr/share/applications/azureus.desktop" will work though
[09:23] <chakie_work> hm, the ktorrent 2.0b kubuntu package, is it for breezy or dapper?
[09:23] <serenity> it's the first time i compiled a source...*g*
[09:24] <chakie_work> ok, it shouldn't take long before dapper is released...
[09:25] <fatejudger> that 5.10 KTorrent package doesn't work with Dapper
[09:25] <fatejudger> does anyone know where you can get a Dapper package?
[09:25] <serenity> stable?
[09:28] <fatejudger> no, for KTorrent
[09:28] <fatejudger> the beta
[09:28] <serenity> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dapper/
[09:28] <Vampis> :))
[09:29] <fatejudger> that's the RC
[09:29] <fatejudger> I'm talking about KTorrent though
[09:36] <shadow_mil> #ubuntu has gone dapper mad...
[09:37] <shadow_mil> does (k)ubuntu have agpgart support?
[09:39] <cfraz89> im using the ktorrent package 2.0 beta
[09:39] <serenity> how to copy files with sudo?
[09:39] <cfraz89> i had to force overwrite though
[09:41] <cfraz89> serenity:
[09:41] <cfraz89> sudo 'cp <from> <to>'
[09:42] <_nano_> cfraz89: sup
[09:42] <serenity> and whole folders?
[09:42] <cfraz89> ummm
[09:42] <_nano_> cp -r foldername
[09:42] <serenity> k
[09:42] <serenity> ty
[09:42] <_nano_> cp -r old new
[09:43] <_nano_> to be precidse :P
[09:44] <cfraz89> hi _nano_
[09:45] <serenity> and if i want to copy all files of a folder to another?
[09:45] <_nano_> cp .* newfolderlocation/
[09:45] <_nano_> cp *.* rather
[09:46] <_nano_> or cp * would do
[09:46] <_nano_> * is a wildcard kind of
[09:49] <dein> does ubuntu have a firewall running by default?
[09:52] <cfraz89> no
[09:54] <MasterEvilAce> you can get firestarter, i think that's a common firewall
[10:01] <kakalto> when's the countdown? xD
[10:01] <MasterEvilAce> no idea
[10:02] <serenity> how to install a program which is local on my hdd, like xyz.deb
[10:03] <Vampis> sudo dpkg -i xyz.deb
[10:05] <cfraz89> if you right click on it you can go to kubuntu package menu -> Install package
[10:06] <Vampis> guigays
[10:06] <Vampis> :P
[10:06] <cfraz89> lol
[10:18] <word> what does this error mean - http://rafb.net/paste/results/LSATxx90.html ?
[10:29] <sUper> how do i install firefox
[10:30] <Vampis> sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:30] <Vampis> *shaking his head*
[10:31] <_nano_> sUper: also add: MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1  in your /etc/environment
[10:32] <cromo> why is the http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest not redirecting to kde-3.5.3? It should :>
[10:34] <GazzaK> cromo: but http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353/ is
[10:37] <_rince_> mrgn
[10:37] <imbrandon> ello
[10:37] <GazzaK> hey imbrandon, morning guy
[10:37] <imbrandon> heya GazzaK
[10:37] <GazzaK> my head hurts!
[10:38] <shadow_mil> thanks
[10:38] <chunLaptop> hey does firefox freeze on you guys when you visit a flash intensive site like myspace
[10:38] <GazzaK> I think I need to invest in some form of cattleprod for my users here...  they just don't learn. :(
[10:39] <imbrandon> chunLaptop, i stray away from myspace as much as possible but no flash is not a problem for me with ff ( most users that have problems with ff crashing its due to an extension )
[10:39] <chunLaptop> it's only on some flash sites for me, but ok
[10:40] <cromo> GazzaK: it doesn't redirect to 353 - it _contains_ it.
[10:45] <OmniD> chunLaptop: Your problem is that you are visitiing MySpace
[10:45] <OmniD> *visiting
[10:45] <GazzaK> lol @ OmniD
[10:47] <chunLaptop> =p =p
[10:49] <chunLaptop> i don't think the packagers decided to put code just to smite myspace =p i've been getting around it using konqueror but..
[10:51] <chunLaptop> still sucks
[11:02] <Ed_L> wow, so quiet compared to #ubuntu
[11:07] <Fillado> indeed
[11:10] <imbrandon> Dapper Released : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/      http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06/
[11:10] <Bilford> finally
[11:11] <Bilford> front page still has Breezy
[11:11] <imbrandon> give it a few minutes
[11:11] <imbrandon> its there
[11:12] <RogueJediX> Woo!
[11:12] <dein> oooh
[11:12] <dein> dapper final is out now?
[11:12] <cfraz89> yay
[11:13] <Bilford> you have inside information then
[11:13] <Bilford> do you work on it
[11:13] <imbrandon> Bilford, http://wiki.kubuntu.org/imbrandon
[11:13] <Fillado> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06/
[11:13] <Fillado> although apparently it's "not out" yet
[11:14] <imbrandon> Fillado, already said ;)
[11:14] <dein> how do i upgrade to it?
[11:14] <Fillado> oh yeah :D
[11:14] <dein> oh
[11:14] <Bilford> oh yeah, I remember that topic
[11:14] <dein> well when its out, how do i upgrade to it?
[11:14] <RogueJediX> dein: Wait a while then type sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:14] <Bilford> Congratulating you on being a member
[11:14] <dein> ok
[11:15] <RogueJediX> imbrandon: If I upgrade via apt now will I get the RC version or the final one?
[11:15] <cfraz89> its like crazy on #ubuntu
[11:15] <dein> still rc
[11:16] <dein> i tried a sec now
[11:16] <dein> er just recently
[11:16] <RogueJediX> Oh. I'll just wait a few hours then
[11:16] <imbrandon> RogueJediX, final
[11:16] <RogueJediX> Oh. Cool!
[11:17] <PPower> do you think the repos have been updated?
[11:17] <dein> the repos havent been updated for me 0.o
[11:17] <PPower> neither here
[11:18] <imbrandon> dein, if you have been doing update then you have the release
[11:18] <dein> 0.o so im already on final?
[11:18] <imbrandon> dein, correct ...
[11:18] <dein> strange
[11:19] <dein> i was expecting a much bigger update
[11:19] <dein> i've only had 5 files updated so far
[11:19] <imbrandon> if you do alot of small updates one big one is not needed ;)
[11:20] <rob> so.. its official I see
[11:20] <rob> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[11:21] <dein> i did not know apt-get had azureus
[11:22] <Spaceraver> yay...
[11:22] <Riddell> drumroll please...
[11:22] <cfraz89> lol no update for me
[11:22] <Riddell> ** ladies and gentlemen your attention please
[11:22] <Riddell> thanks imbrandon
[11:22] <Ed_L> yaaay!
[11:22] <Riddell> Kubuntu 6.06 LTS has been released!  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.06-lts-release.php
[11:22] <Ed_L> a lot more quiet than #ubuntu :P
[11:23] <dein> who is in charge of the azureus package?
[11:23] <imbrandon> Ed_L, they are just nuts over there ;)
[11:23] <imbrandon> heh
[11:24] <Ed_L> indeed :P
[11:24] <Ed_L> silleh gnome users :P
[11:25] <RogueJediX> Wow. It is pretty hectic
[11:26] <Spaceraver> man unubtu chan is buzzing atm... too much for my taste
[11:26] <K|NgGh0sT> You're telling me
[11:27] <RogueJediX> I feel a little bit sorry for the announcer. He must be getting pounded in there
[11:27] <Spaceraver> heh... like someone just saw an alien...
[11:27] <dbglt> is there a ubuntu kde 3.5.3 package?
[11:29] <imbrandon> dbglt, yes look at http://www.kubuntu.org
[11:29] <Terminus-> dbglt: guess not. running dapper here and it's at 3.5.2.
[11:29] <Josh43> Ok, so did we get tricked then? all the downloads shows isos for 24 hours ago
[11:29] <Terminus-> dbglt: maybe edgy. :)
[11:29] <dbglt> Terminus-: ah
[11:29] <imbrandon> Terminus ther are packages avaible on kubuntu.org
[11:29] <reon> at last 6.06 is out
[11:29] <BlueEagle> "This release comes with KDE 3.5.2 and includes a..." from http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.06-lts-release.php
[11:29] <scheuri> KDE 3.5.3 only fpr Kubuntu 6.06??
[11:30] <h3sp4wn> kde 3.5.3 seems to be working fine here
[11:30] <Josh43> scheuri: Feature freze was a while ago, the new ver must not have made it in time
[11:30] <imbrandon> BlueEagle,  dbglt , Terminus http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[11:30] <dbglt> yep, linked from main
[11:30] <dbglt> updating now
[11:31] <dbglt> imbrandon: thanks :)
[11:31] <Terminus-> imbrandon: whoa... cool! haven't been to that site in a while... thought it was a backport or something...
[11:31] <scheuri> Josh43: actually...I wonder if there is 3.5.3 for breezy...
[11:31] <imbrandon> scheuri, no
[11:31] <scheuri> Josh43: I nearly updated breezy with dapper KDE packages...;)
[11:31] <scheuri> imbrandon: thanks for answer
[11:32] <Fillado> scheuri: yeah there is
[11:32] <monad> hi... two questions: 1) why is it that less <file> says "invalid charset name" all of a sudden? 2) how can i start sshd and add it to a runlevel (can't find sth like /etc/init.d/sshd start or rc-update add sshd default or whatever)
[11:32] <Terminus-> oh... different repos. hehe
[11:32] <Fillado> oh
[11:32] <Fillado> nvm
[11:32] <imbrandon> monad, apt-get install ssh
[11:32] <monad> imbrandom, how dumb do you think i am
[11:33] <imbrandon> not very , just making sure you had irt installed
[11:33] <scheuri> weeeeeeeell....is there or isnt there...;)
[11:33] <monad> imbrandom, it'S there, but it has to be started, right? and added to a runlevel manually
[11:33] <imbrandon> should have to
[11:33] <imbrandon> shoudnt*
[11:34] <monad> there is sth like rc-update in kubuntu i presume
[11:34] <imbrandon> one sec ...
[11:34] <K|NgGh0sT> if I am already running dapper shouldnt apt-get dist-upgrade work?
[11:34] <Lynoure> monad: is it there? I don't think openssh-server is installed by default.
[11:35] <seaLne> K|NgGh0sT: apt-get update first?
[11:35] <K|NgGh0sT> did
[11:35] <seaLne> K|NgGh0sT: should be fine
[11:35] <K|NgGh0sT> maybe my source isnt upto date?
[11:35] <monad> lynoure: ok... i already installed ssh and sshd - i can use ssh to tunnel to remote machines. but in order to get into *this machine, sshd has to be started
[11:35] <imbrandon> monad,
[11:35] <imbrandon> brandon@server:~$ /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[11:35] <imbrandon>  * Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...
[11:35] <seaLne> K|NgGh0sT: apt-get update should fix that
[11:36] <K|NgGh0sT> no, I mean, maybe ca.archive.ubuntu.com isnt upto date
[11:36] <dbglt> is it possible to use XGL with ati cards?
[11:36] <mind> hello, is there anyone who can help me configure nvidia drivers on ubuntu breeze ? thanks
[11:36] <seaLne> K|NgGh0sT: there were only like 4 packages changed in the last 24 hours
[11:36] <monad> imbrandon, thanks. and is there some script like rc-update that let's me add it to default runlevel?
[11:38] <mind> please, my eyes are aching, i can't set a higher refresh rate than 60 hz.
[11:38] <imbrandon> monad, i'm not familiar with rc-update , but you can cahnge the run levels by ....... *looks it up*
[11:38] <l_r> hello
[11:38] <Kadran> !nvidia
[11:38] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:38] <l_r> is there a dvd iso for kubuntu lts?
[11:38] <l_r> !dvd
[11:38] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[11:38] <l_r> !iso
[11:38] <seaLne> DVD images are not quite ready yet
[11:38] <ubotu> hmm... iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[11:38] <l_r> ok
[11:39] <l_r> thanks
[11:39] <seaLne> should be up shortly
[11:40] <mind> why won't anyone help ? :(
[11:40] <Kadran> ubotu: tell mind about !nvidia
[11:40] <dein> mind
[11:41] <dbglt> can anyone help me out or point me to a howto explaining how to use XGL and get it running under dapper?
[11:41] <dein> you using a regular monitor?
[11:41] <mind> yes, a CRT monitor
[11:41] <K|NgGh0sT> How come I keep getting "Display Changed: LCD On" randomly?
[11:41] <mind> it supports 1600 x 1200 @ 85 hz, but i can't set it higher than 1024 x 728 @ 60 hz
[11:41] <dein> ok  go to system settings quick
[11:42] <mind> and do what ? :\
[11:42] <dein> go to display and click the hardware tab
[11:43] <mind> i only have system > eferences and administration
[11:43] <mind> *preferences
[11:43] <PPower> i need a hand modifing a  bootup script. ubuntu is too buisy right now
[11:43] <dein> are you on ubuntu?
[11:43] <PPower> both really
[11:43] <PPower> but i use kubuntu more
[11:44] <mind> yes, ubuntu breeze x64
[11:44] <l_r> i wonder whether it takes more to install from cd and download/install the rest or wait for the dvd iso.....
[11:44] <MidMark> dbglt: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/CompositeManager/Xgl
[11:44] <dein> ehh... i don't know how to do it all that much in ubuntu
[11:44] <dein> what card are you using?
[11:44] <mind> on the upper left corner of the screen i have application, places and system
[11:44] <mind> i have a leadtek 6800GT (nvidia)
[11:45] <dein> do you have proprietary drivers installed?
[11:45] <BlueEagle> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Netboot does not exist yet it's referenced from http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.06-lts-release.php
[11:45] <mind> yes, i followed the tutorial on wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:46] <mind> but i don't know where the nvidia settings are at
[11:46] <dein> ok gimme a sec
[11:46] <mind> ok, thanks
[11:47] <dein> do "sudo nvidia-xconfig --mode=1600x1200" to enable that resolution
[11:47] <mind> in the terminal .. right ?
[11:47] <dein> ya
[11:48] <K|NgGh0sT> uh
[11:48] <mind> command not found :|
[11:48] <mind> how about refresh rates ?
[11:48] <K|NgGh0sT> I installed nvidia drivers, and when I rebooted, all my text is now oversized, how can I get everything back to normal sized font
[11:49] <monad> can somebody please tell me why i get "invalid charset name" in xterm when i "less" or try to access a man page?
[11:49] <monad> this is really annoying
[11:49] <dein> is there a display settings in ubuntu?
[11:50] <mind> yes, but the highest resolution i can choose is 1024 x 768 with a refresh rate of 60 hz
[11:50] <dein> is there a hardware option anywhere in that menu?
[11:50] <mind> system > preferences > screen resolution
[11:50] <mind> no, there isn't
[11:50] <monad> wow
[11:50] <dein> sigh
[11:51] <Fillado> Mind: You need to edit your xorg.conf file :)
[11:51] <kosh> monad: no idea why it happens, I have also not used xterm in ..... well a while
[11:51] <mind> fillado, may i msg you ?
[11:51] <Fillado> sure
[11:51] <kosh> you can change the resolution of the running system however it only presents the modes that the system has detected
[11:51] <monad> kosh: seems there'S something wrong with locales
[11:52] <kosh> if the system can not identify what modes are valid then it can't present choices
[11:52] <monad> btw... can somebody tell me how update-rc.d works?
[11:53] <K|NgGh0sT> I installed nvidia drivers, and when I rebooted, all my text is now oversized, how can I get everything back to normal sized font
[11:53] <word> what does this error mean - http://rafb.net/paste/results/LSATxx90.html ?
[11:53] <mind> fillado... priv pls :)
[11:53] <dein> only the text?
[11:53] <dr3as> damn, typical.. showing of my laptop to a friend, he really likes kubuntu he says, and ask if he just can check out a site.. ofc, he writes the url and a message about no flash 8 is displayed :S
[11:53] <dein> are you running kubuntu?
[11:53] <K|NgGh0sT> yeah
[11:54] <word> dr3as: You can install flash...just not shockwave.
[11:54] <K|NgGh0sT> well everything seems to be oversized
[11:54] <K|NgGh0sT> every piece of text
[11:54] <kosh> probably running in a different resolution then you where previously
[11:54] <dein> is it only the text, or is everything bigger
[11:54] <kosh> if it is text then the system probably figured out the dpi wrong which is very strange to have happen
[11:54] <dein> graphics etc?
[11:55] <K|NgGh0sT> I checked system monitor it said I was still running 1680x1050
[11:55] <word> does anyone know what this error message means? - http://rafb.net/paste/results/LSATxx90.html
[11:55] <K|NgGh0sT> er not monitor
[11:55] <K|NgGh0sT> Info Centre
[11:55] <Fillado> Mind: just go to your monitor's website, find the specs for yours, and then edit your xorg.conf file for the horizontal and vertical refresh rates
[11:55] <zblach> hi. I've attempted installing 5.10 to a laptop, and everything seems to have gone well, but kde doesn't seem to load up. any ideas?
[11:55] <dein> unless kosh has a better solution (which he probably does) go to appearance in system settings and lower your font size
[11:56] <EvilIdler> Boo, the Dapper kernel is STILL broken :(
[11:56] <dr3as> not 8 as far as i know
[11:56] <kosh> the dpi needs to be fixed but I don't have time to walk people through it right now
[11:56] <kosh> I need to get other work done
[11:56] <Lynoure> EvilIdler: Which way?
[11:56] <EvilIdler> Lynoure: Can't mount root partition. It's been reported in several different bug reports, but only rated 'Major'
[11:57] <baby> hi guys i tried to install flash player on Mozilla but it says x86_64 is not supported by the macromedia so what can i do for it ?
[11:57] <Lynoure> EvilIdler: Which kind of fs? *curious*
[11:57] <EvilIdler> Lynoure: Ext3 in my case. Some of the others with the problem have different systems
[11:58] <EvilIdler> Lynoure: It's a problem in the initrd - no devices exist
[11:58] <kosh> baby: you have a long path to try and make that work, flash does not support ANY 64bit systems regardless of os
[11:59] <zblach> ?
[11:59] <mind> Fillado : i do know the specs for my monitor, i just have no idea how to edit xorg.conf. can you help please ?
[11:59] <kosh> baby: there is a webpage somewhere that says how to get around that in linux but the thing ends up running a 32bit version of mozilla etc so that you can run a 32bit version of flash
[11:59] <Lynoure> EvilIdler: ah, a SATA bug
[11:59] <EvilIdler> Lynoure: I don't have SATA
[11:59] <kosh> baby: however in my case I consider it to be a feature that 64bit systems don't run flash :)
[11:59] <mind> anyone ?
[12:00] <EvilIdler> Just a plain, old. run-of-the-assmeblyline ATA drive
[12:00] <baby> kosh: then i'll not be able to run it
[12:00] <Fillado> in a terminal type "sudo kwrite", then open /etc/x11/xorg.conf :)
[12:00] <kosh> baby: there are ways around that but in windows and linux there is no easy way to run flash on a 64bit system
[12:00] <Fillado> Mind: ^
[12:00] <kosh> baby: that is why many that still want to use stuff like flash just run a 32bit version of the os instead
[12:01] <zblach> anyone have breezy/dapper on a laptop?
[12:01] <mind> fillado : i don't understand
[12:01] <mind> uhm, ok, i'm blind, i'll try it now
[12:01] <Fillado> lol
[12:02] <mind> mind@dyn-85:~$ sudo kwrite
[12:02] <mind> sudo: kwrite: command not found
[12:02] <mind> mind@dyn-85:~$
[12:02] <K|NgGh0sT> kosh, do I just edit xorg.conf?
[12:02] <imbrandon> Fillado, dont use sudo for graphical apps , use kdesu
[12:02] <imbrandon> mind "kdesu kate"
[12:02] <K|NgGh0sT> zblach: I am running dapper on this laptop
[12:03] <word> does anyone know what this error message means? - http://rafb.net/paste/results/LSATxx90.html
[12:03] <zblach> K|NgGh0sT: what kind of laptop?
[12:03] <Lynoure> EvilIdler: hmm, can you then give me the bug number? (but no, cannot probably help you apart from telling to try some other kernel to see if the bug is not longer)
[12:03] <K|NgGh0sT> Asus z71v
[12:03] <Fillado> works fine for me :D
[12:03] <zblach> K|NgGh0sT: any problems?
[12:03] <mind> imbrandon, tried that too, doesn't work
[12:03] <Fillado> what does kdesu do?
[12:03] <imbrandon> Fillado, its for graphical apps , sudo on graphical apps will mees the permissions up
[12:03] <holden> does anyone knows why http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dapper/kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso.torrent doesn't work?
[12:03] <zblach> Fillado: kde + sudo = kdesu
[12:03] <K|NgGh0sT> zblach: just the intel wireless sucks for WPA
[12:03] <Fillado> ah
[12:04] <EvilIdler> Lynoure: Bugs 32446, 32123, are relevant to my problem. I use kernel 2.6.15-23-686 on a P4
[12:04] <imbrandon> Fillado, and kwrite is now kate on dapper
[12:04] <mind> any more suggestions ? :|
[12:04] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:04] <zblach> K|NgGh0sT: oh. not worried about wireless yet. kde doesn't load on my HP dv1680
[12:04] <mind> i don't have dapper
[12:04] <imbrandon> mind, what are you trying to edit ?
[12:04] <zblach> it thinks it loads, but it doesn't
[12:04] <Fillado> lol ok, just kate and kwrite were both on breezy
[12:04] <mind> imbrandon, xorg.conf
[12:05] <imbrandon> then "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12:06] <K|NgGh0sT> I really wish I never installed those Nvidia drivers now
[12:06] <mind> opens it, but it's a blank file. omg :|
[12:06] <Lynoure> EvilIdler: Have you tried the workarounds mentioned in the first one?
[12:06] <word> imbrandon: Meh.....any idea what this error means? - http://rafb.net/paste/results/LSATxx90.html I keep seeing it all over the place..even just opening up an app it shows twice.
[12:07] <imbrandon> mind, make sure you dident typo
[12:07] <EvilIdler> Lynoure: All of them, several times, despite logic saying I shouldn't ;)
[12:07] <imbrandon> word, no idea
[12:07] <imbrandon> ohhh word
[12:07] <mind> imbrandon, i triple-checked :|
[12:08] <imbrandon> word, thats becouse you have some extra entries for input devices in your xorg.conf
[12:08] <word> o.O
[12:08] <EvilIdler> Lynoure: There's no alternative kernel I can use to get proper 3D support, either, since nvidia-glx mysteriousy has a dependency of the generic architecture
[12:08] <imbrandon> word take out the tablet pc stuff
[12:08] <imbrandon> in xorg.conf
[12:09] <K|NgGh0sT> dein: where is system settings?
[12:09] <imbrandon> K|NgGh0sT, kmenu --> systems settings
[12:09] <dein> in your start menu
[12:10] <K|NgGh0sT> definitly not there
[12:10] <EvilIdler> Lynoure: It seems like the latest kernels don't hava ATA drivers built-in :/
[12:10] <MadTony71> General newbie question of the day, laugh if you must, but where do I find my mounted volume icons so I can visually manipulate the files in them?
[12:10] <Kmirno> MadTony71: media:/
[12:10] <Riddell> MadTony71: System Menu->Storage Media
[12:10] <Lynoure> EvilIdler: That's sad. :/  What do you use meanwhile? (Based on loads of people complaining about things directly or indirectly related to nvidia, I'm so happy I went for ati...)
[12:10] <MadTony71> they don't show up in there, just floppy....:/
[12:11] <EvilIdler> Lynoure: Using the Breezy kernel with nv driver. No 3D :(
[12:11] <EvilIdler> Lynoure: ATI has only caused problems for those I know who use it :P
[12:11] <Kmirno> Lynoure: based on all theses hours of pain I experienced with ati I'm so happy for switching to nvidia
[12:11] <tristan> Anyone has done the upgrade through the internet yet?
[12:11] <imbrandon> eww ati ;)
[12:11] <EvilIdler> Lynoure: I think both are equally problematic if you don't have them working first time, but my problem is not the nvidia drivers anyway
[12:12] <K|NgGh0sT> dein: Its really not there
[12:12] <Lynoure> Kmirno: I guess it's a matter of luck :)
[12:12] <_nano_> imbrandon: yeah eww ati...i had to wait till xorg 7 for my old radeon 7500 to be fully exploited :(
[12:12] <dein> it should be be right above the actions tab
[12:13] <K|NgGh0sT> Its not
[12:13] <dein> are you running dapper?
[12:13] <K|NgGh0sT> yeah
[12:13] <dein> weird
[12:13] <MadTony71> IMHO Storage Media is where I thought to look first, but alas just a floppy icon, not either of the 2 DVD drives, nor the storage volume (hard drive).. is there anything special you need to do to get the extra drive's icons to appear?
[12:13] <imbrandon> do you have kubuntu-desktop installed ?
[12:14] <K|NgGh0sT> hell if I know, I just did apt-get install kde
[12:14] <K|NgGh0sT> and I got this
[12:14] <imbrandon> MadTony71, type "mount" at a promt and make sure they are listed
[12:14] <Kmirno> Lynoure: you can call that .. I actually stoped even trying with the ati ... I use gpl non accelerated drivers .. I had a 350 euros(at the time) Graphic ATI card (9700 PRO) I didn't use it's 3D acceleration on linux ... too much pain.. I just bought an 7900 GT and it worked soooo easyily on my kubuntu .. I didn't even have to open a konsole !
[12:14] <imbrandon> K|NgGh0sT, no thats not kubuntu propper, do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" there are setting that provides
[12:15] <Lynoure> Kmirno: all of my tree atis worked fine, 3d and all, with rather little effort  (ok, x600 didn't with breezy, so I went for dapper instead)
[12:15] <Lynoure> Kmirno: But I have always been lucky :)
[12:16] <uccoffee_loves_B> hi every one
[12:16] <Lynoure> s/tree/three
[12:16] <Kmirno> Lynoure: yeah :)
[12:16] <MadTony71> imbrandon: the dvd's are not, the 3 hard drive partitions are.....
[12:16] <alexey__> hi !
[12:16] <alexey__> I am a SUSE Linux user and want to evaluate Ubuntu/Kubuntu. One question - is there a complete GNOME/KDE Ubuntu DVD?
[12:16] <tristan> My radeon X700 never had 3D accell
[12:16] <imbrandon> alexey__, it comes on one cd, no need for a dvd
[12:16] <tristan> I hope upgrading to dapper will fix that
[12:17] <K|NgGh0sT> aha
[12:17] <K|NgGh0sT> There we go
[12:17] <Kmirno> Lynoure: On the over hand I didn't try 3d on the ATI 9700 PRO for 1 year now ... I guess they might have release better driver in the mean time ...
[12:17] <imbrandon> alexey__, http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[12:17] <K|NgGh0sT> dein: I knew I wasnt going crazy
[12:17] <MadTony71> imbrandon: OK I switched DVD's and it then mounted one, so assuming it just didn't like the DVD's I had in there, but still no hard drive icons
[12:17] <imbrandon> hmmm
[12:18] <imbrandon> MadTony71, have you rebooted since you updated >
[12:18] <imbrandon> ?
[12:19] <word> imbrandon: Now I get this error - http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/750974
[12:19] <Lynoure> Kmirno: What's ironic is that I rarely do anything useful 3D stuff on linux... :) I don't even like screensavers
[12:19] <MasterEvilAce> test
[12:19] <MadTony71> come to think of it I may not have, I'll give it a shot see what happens, it may have unmounted the volumes for the update
[12:19] <MasterEvilAce> has it been released yet??
[12:19] <Chousuke> What, dapper? /topic :P
[12:19] <MasterEvilAce> the final version yes
[12:19] <imbrandon> MasterEvilAce, type /topic
[12:20] <MadTony71> brb, thanks for not laughing at me too much...
[12:20] <l_r> is there a dvd iso ready?
[12:20] <MasterEvilAce> oh h4x
[12:20] <Kmirno> Lynoure: well there's blender (ok not that much people use it)
[12:20] <MasterEvilAce> i already have dapper so how do i update? do i just dist-upgrade or what
[12:20] <imbrandon> yup
[12:20] <l_r> where?
[12:20] <word> imbrandon: Now I get this error - http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/750974
[12:20] <imbrandon> l_r, no dvd iso
[12:20] <l_r> :(
[12:20] <imbrandon> word, when ?
[12:21] <l_r> meaning that they are not available yet?
[12:21] <imbrandon> l_r, no they are not avaible yet, you know the dvd is just livecd+textmode cd correct? no new packages
[12:21] <word> Same times as I get the other errors when I open up kate or any other app
[12:22] <imbrandon> word, no idae for real now, i've never seen that error
[12:22] <Lynoure> Kmirno: I'm graphically clumsy :)
[12:22] <imbrandon> word, you ONLY removed the tablet input devices ?
[12:23] <threat> has it been released yet?
[12:23] <imbrandon> threat, read the topic
[12:24] <word> imbrandon: I commented out the devices and I commented out the reference to them in the ServerLayout section
[12:25] <imbrandon> hrm
[12:28] <EvilIdler> 7MB initrd posted to a bugreport. Yay.
[12:29] <monad> hi... can someone tell me how to add sshd to default runlevel with update-rc.d?
[12:32] <mind> any idea what program to use to open .deb files ?
[12:32] <word> mind: dpkg...
[12:33] <word> in kubuntu you just right click - > Kubuntu package menu - > install
[12:34] <MadTony71> imbrandon: Still didn't create hard drive volume icons, so I just went through nav panel and drug out links to them.. thanks for the input though...
[12:35] <K|NgGh0sT> now to fix this text issue
[12:37] <DevGet> sometimes when I rightclick on a dir on the desktop, my desktop hangs and then vanish, anyone who know how to slove it?
[12:37] <K|NgGh0sT> argh
[12:37] <K|NgGh0sT> now I lost my display res completely
[12:40] <baby> which KDE version on dapper? how can i know it?
[12:42] <DevGet> baby: 3.5.2
[12:50] <Snake> Hmm
[12:53] <Riddell> thanks Snake
[12:54] <K|NgGh0sT> So who wants to help me get my Display back to 1600x1050?
[12:55] <Snake> Riddell: no problem man :) I got the shipits comin in too, those pressed cds are hott
[12:55] <Snake> Uh oh!
[12:55] <Snake> wheres a dapper torrent!?
[12:55] <Snake> LOL
[12:56] <_johannes> Heya. I could need some help with installing GNU m4-1.4.4
[12:56] <Snake> Found em
[12:57] <MadTony71> where do you get the torrent client?
[12:57] <Snake> MadTony71: if you on windows, use utorrent
[12:58] <Snake> MadTony71: on kubuntu I use ktorrent
[12:58] <MadTony71> Snake: ok same site has both?
[12:58] <MadTony71> Snake: I didn't see ktorrent on there.. I'll look again..
[12:59] <Snake> MadTony71: no its not the same site
[12:59] <Snake> MadTony71: are you on kubuntu?
[01:00] <MadTony71> Snake: yep, but I don't have the client app for torrents on here yet
[01:00] <Snake> MadTony71: then just open adept and get it (or "sudo apt-get install ktorrent)
[01:00] <Snake> no quotes
[01:01] <_bon> hi konqueror trys to open/download ever link i click any ideas?
[01:02] <kosh> what do you want to happen?
[01:02] <_bon> lol
[01:02] <kosh> well it seems to me that if I click on a link I except it to open or download based on the content
[01:02] <_bon> not save ever web page to the hard rive
[01:02] <kosh> so either your problem is different then that or your first description was not quite accurate enough
[01:03] <seaLne> _bon: just one website?
[01:03] <kosh> okay so it is trying to save every page rather then open it for viewing?
[01:03] <_bon> every link
[01:03] <seaLne> on different websites?
[01:03] <_bon> yeah
[01:03] <kosh> just a sec
[01:04] <Snake> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm kde4
[01:04] <kosh> settings -> configure konqueror -> file associations -> text -> html -> embedding  and make sure it says show file in embedded viewing and that the primary preference is khtml
[01:04] <Snake> sexeh
[01:05] <kosh> Snake: long time for that
[01:05] <Snake> kosh: I want it.
[01:05] <Snake> :)
[01:05] <Snake> when was kde2 released?? 1998ish?
[01:05] <Snake> meh gotta go :(
[01:08] <K|NgGh0sT> I think i fixxed it
[01:08] <Bilford> I recommend adding Settings to your Start Menu
[01:08] <Bilford> oh, I was scrolled up
[01:09] <Bilford> nm
[01:09] <K|NgGh0sT> Gaim is still uber gay but wahtever
[01:09] <bachstudies> is it easy to get xgl working on kubuntu?
[01:09] <kingghost> h
[01:09] <_bon> yeah cheers works perfect noow
[01:11] <RogueJediX> I have a question. Is there a way to make konqueror open online txt files in itself, while still preserving the offline txt file association with kate?
[01:13] <kbrooks> bachstudies: ?
[01:13] <kbrooks> bachstudies: can i talk to you
[01:13] <K|NgGh0sT> alright time for bed
[01:14] <kbrooks> bachstudies: you should file a bug each time you see one
[01:14] <kbrooks> bachstudies: you were not informative enough
[01:15] <crazy_penguin> hi all!
[01:16] <_bon> this there a way to make the read emails button work kopete useing hotmail account
[01:16] <bachstudies> kbrooks: thanks for the advice. I absolutely love the fact that I can get on IRC and have questions answered immediately. Sorry i am completely new to easyubuntu scripts and it just puzzles me that the stable 3.0 release doesn't work but the nightly build does
[01:16] <kbrooks> bachstudies: please get to #easyubuntu
[01:18] <XVampireX> dapper is gonna be shipped on DVD?!
[01:18] <piotrek> macd, hi
[01:19] <piotrek> macd, i've now intel c++ compiler installed on my pc :)
[01:19] <piotrek> macd, bottom of http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179589
[01:20] <kbrooks> XVampireX: i believe so.
[01:20] <kbrooks> XVampireX: er, no
[01:20] <kbrooks> XVampireX: 1 cd
[01:21] <XVampireX> I hope
[01:21] <XVampireX> Cause I see some DVD torrents...
[01:21] <_bon> anyone know an easy setup free pop for hotmail
[01:22] <MasterEvilAce> eh i think you'd need thirdparty app
[01:23] <_bon> there was freepopsd for brezzy but doesnt work for dapper
[01:25] <XVampireX> And is there going to be a shipit for xubuntu? I'd like to see how xfce4 is
[01:25] <MasterEvilAce> I installed compiz.. i checked the plugins i want.. how do i .. activate them?
[01:26] <_nano_> XVampireX: sup
[01:26] <cfraz89> MasterEvilAce: install gset-compiz
[01:26] <XVampireX> _nano_: Fine :)
[01:26] <MasterEvilAce> cfaz: I did :P
[01:27] <_nano_> !dapper
[01:27] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[01:27] <cfraz89> MasterEvilAce: you just tick off the plugins you want and press apply
[01:28] <MasterEvilAce> cfraz89: is there an apply button?
[01:28] <MasterEvilAce> I don't see apply button. but i exited and reopened and it still has all my stuff active.. i see no difference in anything though
[01:28] <_nano_> would turning off prelink.bin be catastrophic or anything?
[01:29] <_nano_> it takes up a lot of resources ..and runs everynight :|
[01:29] <cfraz89> MasterEvilAce: no, it works on gconf
[01:29] <cfraz89> so as soon as you tick it it loads
[01:30] <Riddell> XVampireX: as always we have a DVD available (which is still syncing to the mirrors)
[01:31] <_nano_> Riddell: synaptic doesn't show any upgradable packages ?
[01:31] <kbrooks> dappling the er: DAPPER
[01:32] <cfraz89> oh wow kde 3.5.3 is released
[01:32] <cfraz89> looks good
[01:32] <baby> when i try to configure any file it gives an error like "C Compiler cannot create executables" how can i fix it?
[01:32] <Riddell> _nano_: change your sources to dapper
[01:33] <_nano_> Riddell: i'm on dapper rc
[01:33] <Riddell> _nano_: then do an update
[01:33] <XVampireX> Riddel: The DVD is for ubuntu/kubuntu and edubuntu all together?
[01:34] <kbrooks> dappling the er: DAPPER
[01:34] <kbrooks> XVampireX: no. at least, i don't think so
[01:35] <XVampireX> So why would anyone need a DVD? :P
[01:36] <XVampireX> kbrooks: It looks like it is ubuntu/kubuntu/edubuntu from what demonoid torrent says
[01:37] <baby> can anybody help me? i cannot compile any file i mean write configure on the console it gives a c compiler cannot create executables error
[01:38] <Riddell> baby: install build-essential
[01:38] <baby> with apt get?
[01:39] <imbrandon> baby yes
[01:40] <imbrandon> XVampireX, then its not the official dvd, the offical dvd is just the livecd+text installcd
[01:41] <Bilford> they should remove the DVD
[01:41] <Bilford> most people will probably download it
[01:41] <cfraz89> the world is now a better place
[01:41] <Bilford> the world has had an upgrade
[01:41] <cfraz89> kbuntu dapper and  kde 3.5.3 in one day...
[01:42] <cfraz89> what more could i ask for?
[01:42] <kbrooks> cfraz89: :-)
[01:42] <cfraz89> :)
[01:42] <XVampireX> imbrandon: Well maybe it is, the description is kinda vague to tell you the truth, but the file size kinda speaks for it: 3.14GB
[01:42] <Bilford> lol
[01:42] <Bilford> Chatty Chilford
[01:43] <_nano_> haha
[01:44] <baby> imbradon: i installed build-essential but now i get a Can't find X includes error how can i fix it too?
[01:45] <Hobbsee> !xincludes
[01:45] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[01:46] <baby> ubotu: ok then i'll install them
[01:46] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, baby
[01:46] <cfraz89> lol baby
[01:47] <_nano_> rofl
[01:47] <_nano_> baby's in cloud number nine ;)
[01:47] <cfraz89> !porn
[01:47] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, cfraz89
[01:47] <cfraz89> lol hahah
[01:47] <_nano_> !bad
[01:47] <ubotu> _nano_: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:48] <_nano_> !canonical
[01:48] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _nano_
[01:48] <_nano_> what?
[01:48] <cfraz89> !ubuntu
[01:48] <pm> is desktop cd another name for live cd? which iso i should choose for an ordinary installation?
[01:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntu is a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[01:48] <Hobbsee> !botabuse
[01:48] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[01:48] <cfraz89> lol
[01:49] <cfraz89> oh sorry
[01:49] <_nano_> oops :P
[01:49] <_nano_> hi Hobbsee
[01:49] <Hobbsee> hi _nano_
[01:50] <_nano_> upgraded? :)
[01:53] <cfraz89> i was dissapointed by the release
[01:53] <cfraz89> i had no updates :(
[01:53] <cfraz89> i updated this morning
[01:54] <cfraz89> but when kde 3.5.3 is finished i will be excited agian
[01:54] <kbrooks> cfraz89: you're on ubuntu
[01:54] <cfraz89> yep
[01:54] <cfraz89> kubuntu
[01:54] <scheuri> cfraz89: of course it had no updates...it is not meant to do lots of updates between RC and finale
[01:54] <cfraz89> yeah, still dissapointing though
[01:54] <cfraz89> i wanted at least one
[01:54] <cfraz89> to feel special
[01:54] <kbrooks> cfraz89: lol why
[01:54] <Hobbsee> cfraz89: kde 3.5.3 is out
[01:55] <cfraz89> so i could feel the upgrade
[01:55] <cfraz89> Hobbsee: yeah, im downloading it now
[01:55] <cfraz89> 18%
[01:55] <cfraz89> kbrooks: it never came to me as a rush
[01:55] <cfraz89> my computer became dapper slowly
[01:56] <cfraz89> i wanted to say at one point, yay i have upgraded to dapper final
[01:56] <cfraz89> but now i realise i missed that moment
[01:56] <chakie_work> hm, is it time to start updating and checking if the system boots anymore?
[01:56] <cfraz89> because it was this morning
[01:57] <kbrooks> cfraz89: you are ON dapper already
[01:57] <chakie_work> anyone managed to do an update?
[01:57] <kbrooks> cfraz89: i updated yesterdaty, lots and lots of them
[01:57] <baby> ok i solved that problem but now it gives a Qt (>= Qt 3.2) error. do i have to download Qtl-dev packages
[01:57] <baby> ?
[01:58] <Riddell> baby: what are you compiling?
[01:58] <cfraz89> kbrooks: yeah, but i never realised it until it was too late
[01:58] <baby> Riddell it's a theme for KDE
[01:59] <Riddell> baby: apt-get build-dep kdebase   will bring in all you need
[01:59] <baby> Riddel: ok
[02:00] <cfraz89> Riddell: thats tricky
[02:01] <cfraz89> i didnt know about build-dep
[02:01] <Sho_> Does anybody know if 6.06 ships the bcm43xx driver?
[02:01] <Riddell> /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx.ko is there
[02:01] <Sho_> lovely
[02:04] <pm> i'm using dapper beta, should i upgrade via apt-get upgrade or is it advisiable to install the final release anew?
[02:05] <Kadran> Sho_: how did you updated konversation?
[02:05] <imbrandon> pm sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is fine
[02:05] <Sho_> Kadran: I'm one of the Konversation developers and presently using the development version. We have a nice Wiki page full of info on how to get ahold of that: http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/SVN
[02:05] <kosh> pm: if you installed from a prerelease version of dapper you just have to do apt-get dist-upgrade to get the final version
[02:06] <Hobbsee> hi Sho_
[02:06] <Sho_> hiya Hobbsee
[02:06] <imbrandon> heh
[02:06] <pm> kosh: i installed from flight 7
[02:06] <Hobbsee> pm: yes, still dist-upgrade
[02:06] <kosh> pm: so just do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:06] <Hobbsee> pm: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:06] <Sho_> Hobbsee: hehe :) No, I was just asking the guys a question about the driver support in 6.06
[02:06] <Kadran> Sho_: i see some lines with * nickname and some blue lines , and don't know what is it?
[02:07] <imbrandon> Sho_, you probbly have that set to an alias ;)
[02:07] <Sho_> Hobbsee: Going to put that on my iBook later tonight
[02:07] <Hobbsee> Sho_: ah :P  fun
[02:07] <pm> and won't there be any problems if i upgrade via apt-get upgrade
[02:07] <kosh> apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:07] <kosh> not upgrade
[02:07] <kosh> and no there won't be any problems
[02:07] <Hobbsee> Sho_: so should we look forward to new features in edgy, for konversation?  when do you recommend grabbing the svn copy, and sticking it into the repos?  or will there be some form of release there?
[02:07] <kosh> heck I updated from debian sid to breez to dapper without a reinstall and that debian box has been running debian for 5 years before that
[02:08] <kosh> I have not done a reinstall of linux in a long time
[02:08] <imbrandon> heh i need one of those and a common sense too
[02:09] <Hobbsee> thanks kosh
[02:09] <Kadran> hey guys, any one using konversation tell me what are these blue lines for?
[02:09] <Sho_> Hobbsee: We're eventually going to publish a new release, hopefully in time for edgy's Upstream Version Freeze. Has a date been set for that
[02:09] <Hobbsee> Kadran: er, blue lines?  like /me?
[02:09] <Sho_> +?
[02:09] <imbrandon> Kadran, they are "actions"
[02:09] <Hobbsee> Sho_: cool, looking forward to seeing the new features :)
[02:10] <Kadran> yes like this
[02:10] <Hobbsee> Sho_: i dont believe so yet, but the development time is 4 months, IIRC
[02:10] <imbrandon> Kadran, type /me somthing
[02:10] <imbrandon> yea
[02:10] <Kadran> :), thanks
[02:11] <kosh> emotes
[02:11] <imbrandon> Kadran, its an action , or emote
[02:11] <Sho_> Hobbsee: Well then let's hope we can put 0.20 (which will probably the last KDE 3.x release) into Edgy :)
[02:11] <imbrandon> like .....
[02:11] <imbrandon> or something
[02:11] <Hobbsee> Sho_: yay!  how close is that, from your end?
[02:12] <Kadran> imbrandon: thanks
[02:12] <Hobbsee> kosh: careful about that...dont burn down too much...
[02:12] <imbrandon> heya goldenear
[02:12] <psb154> I can mount an smb volume using cifs from a fedora install but not from a kbuntu install. The message is: is write-protected, mounting read-only
[02:12] <kosh> Hobbsee: so such thing as burning down too much :)
[02:12] <goldenear> hi imbrandon
[02:12] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[02:12] <Sho_> Hobbsee: I can't really put any dates on it because we're a very very small team of people perpetually busy with other stuff, so development is on and off. I know my to-do for 0.20 still has a quite a few items on it.
[02:13] <Hobbsee> Sho_: okay, cool :)
[02:13] <Sho_> Hobbsee: But if we have four months from Kubuntu's side, that should work out ..
[02:15] <Sho_> Hobbsee: Well, you know my feelings about distros packaging SVN snapshots ;-)
[02:15] <pm> what time did the isos appear on the servers? (it's 14.15 right now for me)
[02:15] <Hobbsee> Sho_: yes, i know :) - that's why i was asking if there was a particular stable time that we could do it, rather than not asking, and finding out the bugs ourselves :P
[02:17] <bachstudies> does anyone know how to join a windows workgroup in kubuntu 6.06?
[02:18] <MasterEvilAce> use samba
[02:18] <Sho_> Hobbsee: Perhaps we can set up some sort of "ready for wide-spread testing" milestone at some point, we'll see
[02:18] <bobesponja> bachstudies: smb:/workgroup in konqueror
[02:18] <Hobbsee> Sho_: that'd be cool :)
[02:18] <Hobbsee> that's the sort of thing i was thinking of
[02:18] <bachstudies> is there a GUI for kubuntu's samba settings? I seem to remember that in other distros KDE had its own settings window
[02:19] <Abecearian> I'm sure y'all are overwhelmed w/ Dapper out, but I thought I'd drop a quick suggestion: On the Download page your DVD link goes to http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/breezy/release/dvd/ ; the link for Dapper's DVD is actually http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release/dvd/
[02:19] <MasterEvilAce> I think i heard a samba config thing comes in KDE's network package.. i think that's installed by default.. it's in kcontrol
[02:19] <MasterEvilAce> called samba something
[02:19] <Sho_> Hobbsee: Can't promise anything, though - if it doesn't happen by itself I don't want developers to have to worry about what they put in SVN because $distro might decide to run with it ;)
[02:19] <Hobbsee> Sho_: of course.
[02:19] <Abecearian> It is also worth noting that the Ubuntu Dapper DVD is even harder to find, so you already are ahead of the game as is!
[02:20] <Abecearian> Good luck!
[02:20] <pm> apt-get dist-upgrade says that there are no packages that need upograding
[02:20] <bachstudies> MasterEvilAce: i've managed to open it in a terminal but there's no icon for it on the kubuntu menus
[02:20] <MasterEvilAce> pm: run apt-get update first
[02:21] <pm> does it mean i had official yesterday?
[02:21] <MasterEvilAce> bachstudies: kcontrol? yeah there is no icon. i got to it by going to terminal as well
[02:21] <MasterEvilAce> bachstudies: I've seen the samba config in kcontrol somewhere. should be able to just type samba at the top and it'll be there
[02:22] <bachstudies> MasterEvilAce: the samba section doesn't want to open....just says 'opening...' and doesn't!
[02:22] <MasterEvilAce> bachstudies: I think that happened a few times for me.. i'm not sure why. Just close and try to reopen it again
[02:22] <Hobbsee> pm: yeah.
[02:22] <bachstudies> MasterEvilAce: thanks
[02:22] <Hobbsee> sorta. mostly.   yes.
[02:22] <pm> MasterEvilAce, i've been using ubuntu for a year, i know that upgrade apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade) must be preceded by apt-get update
[02:23] <MasterEvilAce> pm: just covering the bases :)
[02:23] <Hobbsee> pm: that's correct
[02:23] <imbrandon> [07:21]  <pm> does it mean i had official yesterday? <--- probbly
[02:23] <bachstudies> MasterEvilAce: no luck...it comes up a greyed-out box and when i hit adminstrator mode it just saying opening
[02:23] <imbrandon> depending on the time you did the updates
[02:24] <MasterEvilAce> bachstudies: i'm not sure. I do remember it was very iffy on my computer as well. Try accessing admin mode in a different section, then going back to the samba one. I would try to help figure it out on my side, but i'm trying ot get some stuff working and linux isn't boot atm :)
[02:24] <bachstudies> MasterEvilAce: just got round it by typing sudo kcontrol in terminal!
[02:25] <MasterEvilAce> bachstudies: lol!
[02:28] <pm> will kubuntu shipit have both alternate and desktop (or even server) cds?
[02:30] <cfraz89> has anyone managed to upgrade to kde 3.5.3?
[02:31] <Hobbsee> cfraz89: yeah
[02:31] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.3
[02:31] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:31] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.2
[02:31] <ubotu> [kde3.5.2]  to upgrade to KDE3.5.2, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[02:31] <cfraz89> it doesnt like installing kdelibs-data
[02:31] <Hobbsee> mm...modifying that...
[02:31] <cfraz89> ohhhhh i see
[02:31] <cfraz89> its overlapping my ktorrent package
[02:31] <Kadran> cfraz89: it is faster
[02:31] <cfraz89> lots faster?
[02:32] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.3
[02:32] <ubotu> kde3.5.3 is, like, to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[02:32] <Hobbsee> cfraz89: there you go
[02:32] <cfraz89> lol thanks
[02:33] <cfraz89> worked it out, its because i force installed ktorrent2.0 beta
[02:33] <cfraz89> now its coming back to haunt me
[02:35] <Hobbsee> cfraz89: that'll create problems, yes
[02:35] <cfraz89> lol now i cant remove it either
[02:35] <_bon> ubuntu fourms gone down
[02:35] <_bon> ?
[02:36] <cfraz89> how to force remove a package?
[02:37] <cfraz89> ignoring deps?
[02:37] <mchasard> Hi i just saw kubuntu 6.06 out
[02:37] <mchasard> Can we use it as live cd ?
[02:38] <mchasard> Cause on distrowatch its desktop version 6.06 lts
[02:38] <cfraz89> i think ive messed up badly
[02:39] <cfraz89> kde-libs data wont install because it will overwrite a file
[02:39] <mchasard> Hum so can i use it as live cd ...
[02:39] <cfraz89> it wont even force install
[02:39] <cfraz89> it says dpkg was killed by signal
[02:39] <Hobbsee> cfraz89: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[02:39] <cfraz89> no bad
[02:39] <cfraz89> it wants to take down all of kde + more
[02:40] <cfraz89> how can i remove it without removing everything else?
[02:40] <Hobbsee> you can use sudo apt-get --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/nameofdeb.deb  i think
[02:40] <_bon> craz89: http://biostat.mc.vanderbilt.edu/twiki/bin/view/Main/DependFixDebian
[02:40] <empi> mchasard, I think its also a live cd
[02:40] <_bon> i had the same problem
[02:41] <pm> i oredered 5 cds of kubuntu 6.0.6 a few days ago but i didn't get any confirmation (either via email or on webpage), is it normal?
[02:41] <pm> kubuntu 6.06* of course
[02:42] <empi> mchasard, to quote the kubuntu site: "The desktop CD allows you to try Kubuntu without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later."
[02:42] <cfraz89> Hobbsee: i tried using dpkg --force-overwrite
[02:42] <cfraz89> but it dies for some reason
[02:42] <Hobbsee> cfraz89: ah, is that it.  define "some reason" and pastebin what you got
[02:42] <cfraz89> i really dont know why
[02:42] <cfraz89> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.3-0ubuntu0.1_all.deb (--unpack):
[02:42] <cfraz89>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package ktorrent
[02:42] <cfraz89> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[02:43] <cfraz89> ooh got it
[02:43] <cfraz89> i guess the order is important
[02:43] <empi> congrats
[02:43] <empi> =)
[02:44] <cfraz89> thanks Hobbsee
[02:44] <pekay> hey is upgrading to KDE 3.5.3 safe or risky?
[02:45] <cfraz89> empi: lol thanks
[02:45] <cfraz89> pekay: is safe
[02:45] <Kadran> is KOOL
[02:45] <mchasard> So please the new iso is can be used as live cd ?
[02:46] <Kadran> the Desktop CD
[02:46] <mchasard> Yes its called desktop
[02:46] <empi> mchasard, YES
[02:47] <mchasard> Ok thanks i can goes on to download it
[02:47] <empi> mchasard,  http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/dapper/
[02:47] <zuid> Have I joined in the middle of a "Why the hell did the upgrade just delete my desktop?" conversation?  If not, I'd quite like to start it..
[02:47] <aftertaf> lol
[02:47] <aftertaf> hey mom, i'm on stable dapper :] 
[02:48] <mchasard> Its the release version ?
[02:48] <MasterEvilAce> aftertaf: congrats! now do your homework!!!
[02:48] <aftertaf> homework? :] 
[02:48] <Kadran> aftertaf: happy new half-year
[02:48] <aftertaf> ive been on a stable enough dapper for 3 months now :)
[02:48] <zuid> Does anybody have any idea what this is all about?  There are month-old bugs registered for this problem but it's still happening in today's 'stable' release?
[02:48] <empi> lol Kadran
[02:48] <Hobbsee> pekay: seems okay
[02:49] <Hobbsee> zuid: which problem?
[02:49] <cfraz89> i have a persistent bug in dapper too
[02:49] <aftertaf> zuid, what is the actual problem? error messages & such
[02:49] <zuid> That dist-upgrade deletes all KDE packages.
[02:49] <aftertaf> zuid, whats your sources.list like?
[02:49] <zuid> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/39658
[02:49] <zuid> It's untouched from 5.10 default except for adding 'universe'.
[02:49] <aftertaf> zuid, you upping from breezy?
[02:49] <zuid> Yep.
[02:50] <aftertaf> zuid, add the kde-353 line and get new kde too.
[02:50] <aftertaf> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353/ dapper main
[02:50] <Kadran> zuid !kde-3.5.3
[02:50] <Kadran> !kde-3.5.3
[02:50] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kadran
[02:50] <aftertaf> cfraz89, what bug is that?
[02:50] <zuid> Is there anybody in here capable of adding a fairly prominent notice to the "Upgrade your Kubuntu in 5 easy steps!" web page?  This is a pretty major problem ...
[02:51] <Kadran> !kde3.5.3
[02:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, kde3.5.3 is to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[02:51] <empi> !kde3.5.3
[02:51] <empi> hmpf
[02:51] <zuid> aftertaf - Thanks very much.
[02:51] <aftertaf> zuid, :)
[02:51] <cfraz89> aftertaf: printing to some canon pixmas stops about 2 pages into the jon
[02:51] <cfraz89> *job
[02:51] <aftertaf> zuid, they havent made it to ubuntu dapper repos yet i guess
[02:52] <aftertaf> cfraz89, ah. not with printer as i am, cant help
[02:52] <_bon> i am quit inpressed with the install much better than upgradeing any other linu distro
[02:53] <MasterEvilAce> rumor has it kde3.5.3 is an upgrade to KDE 3.5.3? wtf?
[02:53] <XVampireX> lol
[02:53] <root_> hello i cannot find anything about how to install nvidia drivers on kubuntu dapper, can anybody help me? thx
[02:53] <Kadran> root_
[02:53] <Kadran> !nvidia
[02:53] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:53] <DaveQB> did anyone have trouble with Enlightment-data package when doing a dist-upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 ?
[02:53] <cfraz89> aftertaf: its ok
[02:53] <XVampireX> root_: What nvidia card?
[02:53] <klerfayt> how to get rid of gam_server or is it needed for something important?
[02:53] <cfraz89> thanks anyway
[02:53] <XVampireX> Yeah, lol
[02:54] <Hobbsee> MasterEvilAce: no, to upgrade to kde3.5.3...
[02:54] <XVampireX> That's easier
[02:54] <aftertaf> DaveQB, im on cvs.
[02:54] <root_> GeForce5600xt
[02:54] <MasterEvilAce> oh ok (bad wording) but okay
[02:54] <DaveQB> I have found the new Nvidia .run installers work flawlessly
[02:54] <root_> the standard sudo nvidia_glx enable is not working
[02:54] <scheuri> Question about Konquerorsettings: How to make View Mode -Detailed List View permanent?
[02:54] <DaveQB> aftertaf: of Enlightment ?
[02:54] <XVampireX> MasterEvilAce: Even funnier is when I thought that I was already using 3.5.3 even though I was using 3.5.2
[02:54] <WillyTP> uff sadly still no kde 3.5.3 for amd64
[02:54] <aftertaf> DaveQB, e17 yeah
[02:55] <Kadran> root_ did you restarted the X?
[02:55] <aftertaf> WillyTP, sure about that?
[02:55] <Cristiano> yep Kadran
[02:55] <Cristiano> it doesnt work
[02:55] <aftertaf> scheuri, save the profile to standard filemanager profile
[02:55] <DaveQB> aftertaf: more just I mean an error whilst doing a dist-upgrade. another has just halted me again
[02:55] <DaveQB> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ofx_1%3a0.8.0-10_i386.deb (--unpack):
[02:55] <DaveQB>  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/ofx2qif', which is also in package libofx2
[02:55] <DaveQB> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:55] <WillyTP> aftertaf, yes
[02:55] <WillyTP> it's written on kubuntu page
[02:56] <aftertaf> DaveQB, use dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/ofx_1%3a0.8.0-10_i386.deb
[02:56] <pekay> !kde5.3.3
[02:56] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pekay
[02:56] <scheuri> aftertaf: seems to work...thousand thanks
[02:56] <aftertaf> 533 lol
[02:56] <DaveQB> aftertaf:  cheers, i'll try that
[02:56] <pekay> aff xd
[02:56] <aftertaf> scheuri, :)
[02:56] <aftertaf> DaveQB, :)
[02:56] <LeeJunFan> must be popular today, can't download from us sites. damn timeouts.
[02:57] <DaveQB> a similiar error happened previoously with the enlightment-data package, I just unchecked it and tried again
[02:57] <Hobbsee> !info kdelibs
[02:57] <ubotu> kdelibs: (core libraries from the official KDE release), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 29 kB, Installed size: 72 kB
[02:57] <aftertaf> DaveQB, e16?
[02:57] <Cristiano> i found some time ago a guide telling to modify xorg.conf and to create a file named NvidiaSettings or something like that, do u remember where to find it?
[02:57] <baby> where is icon folder on Linux?
[02:57] <aftertaf> baby, /usr/share/icons
[02:57] <MasterEvilAce> I understand how to do the XGL stuff.. but is there a way to make sure it's working?
[02:57] <Kadran> Cristiano: strange it has worked with me , try running nvidia-settings
[02:58] <MasterEvilAce> and active
[02:58] <DaveQB> aftertaf: not sure to be honest, I hardly use it, just wanted a light alternative, its whatever ya get on 5.10 per default
[02:58] <baby> aftertaf: thanks
[02:58] <Cristiano> Kadran what did u do?
[02:58] <aftertaf> DaveQB, try e17, you'll be blown away. i have an autoconfig script if you want ;)
[02:58] <Cristiano> i use the command "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and it gave me an error
[02:58] <DaveQB> aftertaf:  yeah I have heard it is nice
[02:58] <DaveQB> binary config files though huh ??
[02:59] <DaveQB> aftertaf:  a sequence of errors with the overwite command you just gave me :(
[02:59] <Silensius> does anyone help me to configure my sourceslist for dapper for have acces to all debian packages
[02:59] <aftertaf> hehe, not all are binary. just the icons.
[02:59] <aftertaf> DaveQB, sudo?
[02:59] <WillyTP> just a curiosity... with the default install, what does DVD version has more?
[02:59] <aftertaf> Silensius, change all breezy to dapper.
[02:59] <Kadran> Cristiano:what is the error?
[02:59] <Silensius> i have just install the last dapper
[03:00] <aftertaf> WillyTP, not sure, maybe has more available packages...
[03:00] <DaveQB> aftertaf: more like a circular dependacy, maybe
[03:00] <aftertaf> DaveQB, paste me it.
[03:00] <Cristiano> Kadran,
[03:00] <Cristiano> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[03:00] <Silensius> when i do apt-get install grip   it says i coundt find packages
[03:00] <Cristiano> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[03:00] <Cristiano> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[03:00] <Cristiano> command:
[03:00] <Cristiano> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[03:00] <Cristiano> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[03:00] <Cristiano> from nv to nvidia.
[03:01] <aftertaf> Silensius, sudo apt-get update?
[03:01] <aftertaf> Silensius,  and apt-cache search grip
[03:01] <Silensius> o i try
[03:01] <DaveQB> aftertaf: oh i havent logged onto freenode... cant PM yet
[03:02] <aftertaf> then paste to #aftertaf
[03:02] <Kadran> Cristiano: did you tried this ? 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum'
[03:02] <Silensius> aftertaf nothing
[03:02] <Cristiano> yep it broke everything
[03:02] <bachstudies> having huge difficulties getting xp to see my kubuntu folder and print shares. in XP i can see my kubuntu machine but it won't let me access anything and my printer is not detected
[03:02] <aftertaf> !info grip
[03:02] <ubotu> grip: (GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 3.3.1-2ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 444 kB, Installed size: 1276 kB
[03:02] <Kadran> aftertaf: use pastebin
[03:03] <aftertaf> true Kadran there is that too :)
[03:03] <Cristiano> Kadran: i was looking for the guide i used to configure the drivers, the only guide that worked to me, but no luck at all!
[03:04] <Kadran> Cristiano: ok , when i installed the nvidia-glx it told me that if it didn't work use the legacy one so i hope it works for you
[03:04] <MasterEvilAce> bachstudies: yeah I had the same problem. i fixed it in a sort of decent way, i guess
[03:04] <Kadran> however your card can't be legacy
[03:04] <Cristiano> ok i try
[03:05] <bachstudies> MasterEvilAce: how?
[03:05] <Kadran> Cristiano: ok and tell me if any progress
[03:05] <Kadran> Cristiano: and good luck
[03:06] <Cristiano> Kadran lol thx :D
[03:06] <Silensius> ubotu : must i add brezzy iin sourceslist
[03:06] <ubotu> Silensius: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:06] <Silensius> ok
[03:06] <MasterEvilAce> bachstudies: gimmie a second. let me look at my settings.. kubuntu is updating stuff so it's a bit slow
[03:06] <zuid> This is nuts .. in trying to upgrade KDE, it for some reason seems to think that none of my existing KDE apps will work with the new version .. therefore wants to remove them all.  Wanting to upgrade everything also has the same effect.
[03:07] <aftertaf> DaveQB, paste it to pastebin and we can all hep out ;)
[03:07] <DaveQB> aftertaf:  dward.us/apt.txt
[03:07] <nomad411> I only find CDs, isn't the new release available on DVD ISOs ?
[03:08] <zuid> doing a dist-upgrade doesn't even consider upgrading, it just wants to remove everything (despite adept claiming they are all 'upgradable') ..   Do I have to switch all my repositories back to breezy, upgrade kde, then switch back to dapper, and upgrade it all again?
[03:08] <aftertaf> zuid, nope.
[03:08] <aftertaf> you are on breezy qnd kde 3.5.2 right now?
[03:08] <DaveQB> aftertaf:  me ?
[03:09] <zuid> I don't know about qnd, but it's breezy with 3.5.2, yeah.
[03:09] <zuid> No, wait.. 3.5.1.
[03:09] <zuid> Sorry.
[03:09] <aftertaf> and :)
[03:09] <jh99> is it correct that breez badger installations can be updated to dapper without too much trouble? (except for hte possible bug in the wiki kubuntu-desktop package ..)
[03:09] <Hobbsee> zuid: the work aroundafter getting adept to upgrade, should be sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <psb154>  http://ca.samba.org/samba/ftp/cifs-cvs/mount.cifs
[03:09] <psb154> sorry
[03:09] <aftertaf> hey this is linux, bits of string are needed to hold it together sometimes :)
[03:10] <zuid> I saw that "workaround" .. the problem is that the package 'kubuntu-desktop' isn't even available according to apt.
[03:10] <aftertaf> (as opposed to ALL the time with other OSs) :)
[03:10] <Hobbsee> zuid: er....
[03:10] <zuid> Since changing my repositories to dapper, kubuntu-desktop has disappeared as an option.
[03:10] <Hobbsee> it's here...
[03:10] <aftertaf> zuid, did you add the 353 line too?
[03:10] <DexterF> hi
[03:10] <zuid> (I am aware that this sounds crazy in three flavours)
[03:10] <jh99> does the kubuntu-desktop package bug happen on ALL upgrades from BB to Dapper?
[03:10] <psb154> kubuntu does not seem to install mount.cifs. This causes some mysterious samba read-only problems.
[03:11] <zuid> aftertaf - Yep.  It updated those happily, claims that all kde-related packages are 'upgradable', but wants to remove them rather than upgrading.
[03:11] <DexterF> just upgraded to 6.06, get to login screen, but after login kde won't start and I fall back to login
[03:11] <jh99> can i update BB to Dapper just by changing the repositories of do i need a CD? is it the same thing?
[03:11] <bachstudies> MasterEvilAce: it is blocking my messages to you seeing as i am an unregistered user
[03:11] <DexterF> ideas where to look? Xorg log seems ok
[03:11] <Cristiano> Kadran: nothing to do even with legacy :(
[03:11] <aftertaf> DexterF, rm ~/.ICEauthority
[03:11] <MasterEvilAce> bachstudies: :(  okay, well you can get into kcontrol and samba config right?
[03:12] <bachstudies> MasterEvilAce: yep
[03:12] <piotrek> join #princed
[03:12] <zuid> DexterF - If you upgraded by following the instructions on kubuntu's website then your problem is probably a distinct lack of KDE.
[03:12] <aftertaf> looolzuid
[03:12] <jh99> zuid, which directions are that?
[03:12] <jh99> zuid, ..instructions i mean
[03:12] <baby> i cannot copy paste to /usr/share/icon dir..How can i do it?
[03:13] <zuid> The ones that don't mention you should check what adept plans to do before rebooting. :)
[03:13] <DexterF> aftertaf: didnt help
[03:13] <DexterF> zuid: well, aptitude upgrade
[03:13] <james_xxx> is the kubuntu website down?
[03:13] <james_xxx> or just overloaded
[03:14] <aftertaf> DexterF, try sudo aptitude install adept, see if it drags some kde goodness in.
[03:14] <MasterEvilAce> bachstudies: okay under [base]  tab.. make sure workgroup is correct. set security level to "Share".  under [Shares]  tab add whatever folder you want shared (or edit one) and make sure Public/Browseable/ and Available are CHECKED.   If you need XP to be able to write to it, under [USERS]  I had to force user and force group to my user/group at the bottom   For your printer, the printer tab should be setup the same way (altho
[03:14] <bachstudies> oh ok
[03:14] <MasterEvilAce> hope that helps
[03:14] <empi> and set file permissions correctly
[03:15] <bachstudies> MasterEvilAce: is the printer a bit more tricky?
[03:15] <empi> that bugered me last time
[03:15] <MasterEvilAce> bachstudies: I'm not sure. I don't have a computer connected to my linux system.. i assume it would be similar
[03:15] <MasterEvilAce> bachstudies: editing a printer, it has similar share options (the check boxes) trial and error maybe should work
[03:16] <bachstudies> MasterEvilAce: ok thanks
[03:16] <goldenear> why, when I do sudo apt-get remove libgtk2.0-common, apt-get says that amarok (amarok-xine) will be removed ?
[03:16] <aftertaf> cos its a dependency? :)
[03:17] <jh99> my question again: can i update a breezy badger to dapper just by changing repositories?
[03:17] <MasterEvilAce> Oh speaking of dependencies.. how come when i try to INSTALL nvidia-settings (i think it is), it wants to remove nvidia-glx?
[03:17] <aftertaf> jh99, 'normally' yeah
[03:17] <MasterEvilAce> jh99: yeah, then run apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:17] <jh99> k
[03:17] <goldenear> jh99: normally yes
[03:18] <jh99> repository lists / names are easy to find on kubuntu org?
[03:18] <goldenear> but it seems to have a bug with it
[03:18] <GnarusLeo> Hi, I have the Kubuntu Breezy, how would I go approach to upgrade to dapper?
[03:18] <GnarusLeo> still want my kde and all
[03:18] <aftertaf> lol
[03:18] <DevGet> anyone that has got audacity work in KDE?
[03:18] <MasterEvilAce> DevGet: it loads for me in KDE just fine
[03:19] <DevGet> yes, it loads, but it can't record anything for me
[03:19] <MasterEvilAce> hm
[03:20] <bachstudies> MasterEvilAce: could i just ask what you have your samba printer path set to?
[03:20] <MasterEvilAce> DevGet: yes doesn't work here either.. weird
[03:20] <ke> How long is the shipit under way?
[03:20] <DexterF> aftertaf: no go. installed new adept and apt-install-data, but that's it. kde is there alright.
[03:20] <DevGet> and when I try:
[03:20] <DevGet> gustav@tux:~$ artsdsp audacity
[03:20] <DevGet> Segmentation fault
[03:21] <DexterF> must be something during kde startup as X comes up alright, but what? where?
[03:21] <DexterF> where does kde log?
[03:21] <aftertaf> dexter, try dpkg -l |grep kde.... to make sure
[03:21] <MasterEvilAce> bachstudies: don't have a printer installed.. the default "printers" comment "All Printers" path is set to /tmp  and is "available" but not "browseable" or "public"
[03:22] <jh99> thx guys
[03:22] <bachstudies> MasterEvilAce: oh ok thanks
[03:22] <aseigo_lsb> DexterF: you mean arts? it doesn't use kde's logging an any form... kde apps, however, have their logging controlled via `kdebugdialog --fullmode`
[03:22] <jh99> lets see how far repository changes bring me ...
[03:22] <jh99> any no-nos while dist upgrading?
[03:22] <MasterEvilAce> jh99: try not to spill water on your keyboard
[03:22] <h3sp4wn> GnarusLeo: Go into adept Manage Repositories and change "breezy" to "dapper" Click "Fetch Updates" Click "Full Upgrade" Click "Commit"
[03:22] <jh99> :) any other helpful tips MasterEvilAce ?
[03:23] <GnarusLeo> k, thanks
[03:23] <MasterEvilAce> jh99: nah, everything should theoretically go just fine
[03:23] <jh99> thx, later .
[03:23] <zuid> BEFORE you hit commit, check Preview Changes!  If you have a list full of "Remove" entries then don't commit!
[03:24] <aftertaf> cy all later. good luck zuid :] 
[03:24] <DexterF> aseigo_lsb: arts? huh? no, kdeinit
[03:24] <Mark_> hey i have a serious problem with install kubuntu
[03:24] <h3sp4wn> zuid: You would expect things to be removed
[03:24] <DexterF> aftertaf: kde packages are in place
[03:24] <zuid> YEah a couple of things, but not 199 packages.
[03:24] <Mark_> i simply cannot start the installation program, because during boot there is a problems with the cdrom
[03:24] <zuid> (All of which are kde-related)
[03:24] <DaveQB> how does Adept handle if a config files changes ?? Does it show you the diff with a GUI frontend ?
[03:25] <Mark_> i get error like bad block
[03:25] <pekay> 14% lol this update is slow, anyone got it slow?
[03:25] <Mark_> anyone?? had rpoblems with booting the cd (desktop 6.06)?
[03:25] <aseigo_lsb> DexterF: kdeinit isn't the actual app
[03:25] <DexterF> aww.. I once experimente4d with Xgl packages. maybe kwin chokes on that?
[03:26] <aseigo_lsb> DexterF: kdeinit is simply an "execute wrapper" that helps speed up start up times (it's a cute hack =) ... look after the 'kdeinit' line to see what is actually being run
[03:26] <DexterF> aseigo_lsb: well, kdeinit, startkde, kde-session, I don't mind, what I wanna know is: where are kde logfiles that document what happens during kde start?
[03:27] <DaveQB> website must be coping a pinding 100x slower then it was today lol
[03:27] <robin_> I really wonder how many tests has been done on the installer :(
[03:27] <robin_> it's just crash..
[03:27] <DaveQB> robin_: liveCD or alternative ?
[03:28] <DexterF> how do I launch an X with an xterm from tty?
[03:28] <robin_> desktop version
[03:28] <robin_> DaveQB: desktop.
[03:28] <DaveQB> robin_:  oic
[03:28] <Bilford> Ubuntu on Slashdot
[03:29] <thoreauputic> Bilford: stand by to watch the Ubuntu servers melt...
[03:29] <robin_> DaveQB: it crashes on the DHCP  part so it seems, I don't have network.
[03:29] <Bilford> they should make people use torrents
[03:29] <bobesponja> is the torrent tracker dead?
[03:30] <thoreauputic> Bilford: we are encouraging that of course
[03:30] <DaveQB> robin_:  oh, I have never tried, but I will be on my laptop.
[03:30] <Mark_> i simply cannot start the installation program, because during boot there is a problems with the cdrom. i get error like bad block. anyone?? had rpoblems with booting the cd (desktop 6.06)?
[03:30] <DaveQB> Where are the torrent links ? I cant see them
[03:30] <thoreauputic> DaveQB: /topic
[03:30] <baby> how can i add new icons to kubuntu. i downloaded a new icon pack and there r folders like 128x128 48x48 also there is a index.desktop so i created a folder in /usr/share/icon and coppied them in it but i cant see those icons on KDE customize?
[03:30] <DaveQB> cheers
[03:30] <robin_> the release candidate also crashed..
[03:31] <robin_> I was hoping to isntll kubuntu, but now I'm stuck to breezy I guess.
[03:31] <thoreauputic> DaveQB: hmm - actually sorry I don't see a Kubuntu torrent in the topic
[03:31] <DexterF> gonna reinstall kde.. se what happens. if all else fails, fresh install
[03:31] <thoreauputic> DaveQB: ubuntu torrent is in the #ubuntu topic though
[03:31] <Bilford> you can do a lot more with LInux than you can with Windows
[03:31] <DaveQB> thoreauputic: I am chasing some links from the ubuntu site, we'll see, slow though heheheh
[03:32] <Mark_> i simply cannot start the installation program, because during boot there is a problems with the cdrom. i get error like bad block. anyone?? had rpoblems with booting the cd (desktop 6.06)?
[03:32] <Bilford> I set it up so when I double-click a rm file, it automatically decodes it to wav
[03:32] <robin_> I just downloaded the iso from the main site with 750kb/s much faster than the torrents..
[03:32] <DaveQB> Mark_:  havent even got it yet :)
[03:32] <Mark_> DaveQB, okay thx anyway
[03:32] <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: the correct kubuntu torrent is now listed on kubuntu.org, i think
[03:33] <Bilford> I think KDE should be the default Ubuntu Window
[03:33] <DaveQB> thoreauputic:  heres the Tawain link to torrents and iso's http://apt.nc.hcc.edu.tw/pub/ubuntu-cd/kubuntu/6.06/
[03:33] <psb154> 1060 nicks on ubuntu :-)
[03:33] <DaveQB> Bilford:  me to :)
[03:33] <kkathman> hey Hobbsee :)  how goes it?
[03:33] <Bilford> I think the average Windows user would find KDE more freindly
[03:33] <Hobbsee> hi kkathman
[03:33] <Hobbsee> it goes.  mostly.
[03:33] <Bilford> more eye candy for KDE
[03:33] <kkathman> better than not I suppose... going that is
[03:34] <MasterEvilAce> how do i make a new file with NANO?
[03:34] <alepetrucci> hi, anyone know if there are probles upgrading to dapper directly form dapper beta?
[03:34] <dr_willis> alepetrucci:  thers always potentials for probpems
[03:34] <dr_willis> but ive not heard of many
[03:34] <alepetrucci> so a fresh install is recomended?
[03:34] <dr_willis> and ive not experienecd any
[03:35] <kkathman> alepetrucci:  if you've kept up with the updates, you should be fine
[03:35] <imbrandon> MasterEvilAce, just type "nano newfilenamehere.txt" and when you save it will create a new file
[03:35] <dr_willis> if you dont have a highly tweaked/or weird system. it may be easier to reinstall
[03:35] <alepetrucci> shall i cahnege repositories?
[03:35] <kkathman> no need to update at all
[03:35] <kkathman> i.e. reinstall fresh
[03:35] <MasterEvilAce> imbrandon: that's what i've been trying.. but it says it cannot save because the file doesn't exist??
[03:35] <DaveQB> kubuntu desktop torrent is a go !! :)
[03:35] <MasterEvilAce> alepetrucci: shouldn't even have to change repo's.. just apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade and you shuold get the new stuff i believe
[03:35] <DaveQB> 2 hours to go on Torrent
[03:36] <h3sp4wn> How do you change debconf so it asks more questions ? (instead of just doing everything automatically) I have done it before just can't remember
[03:36] <alepetrucci> ok thx ill give a try...if something goes wrong illreinstall it...
[03:36] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, -plow ?
[03:36] <DaveQB> this is weird how dist-upgrade re-installs the same KDE I had before
[03:36] <dr_willis> its often handy to have your /home on a spare hard drive :P or partition
[03:36] <DaveQB> must have a different "tweak" to it
[03:37] <imbrandon> DaveQB, you need to change your repos to dapper
[03:37] <DaveQB> dr_willis:  for sure.  People DONT do that ??
[03:37] <h3sp4wn> imbrandom: It was a permenant setting (you know like on debian where it asks you about most stuff)
[03:37] <alepetrucci> dist-update says i dont have any packet do download  :|
[03:37] <Hobbsee> DaveQB: yeah, built on totally different libs.
[03:37] <DaveQB> imbrandon: ummm I did, 900+ packages to upgrade
[03:37] <imbrandon> sounds about right
[03:37] <dr_willis> DaveQB:  ive had issues with the older gnome and kde configs  however messing with a new install/versions of gnome/kde.
[03:37] <DaveQB> oh  finally, done!
[03:38] <DaveQB> dr_willis: that has been warrying me
[03:38] <DaveQB> dr_willis: mv  ~/.kde ~/.kde.orig fix it ?
[03:39] <aseigo_lsb> er, used
[03:39] <imbrandon> kdhome or kdehome aseigo_lsb ?
[03:39] <DaveQB> aseigo_lsb:  oh, nice one
[03:40] <aseigo_lsb> $KDEHOME
[03:40] <imbrandon> cool
[03:40] <imbrandon> heheh i thought it was but wasent sure, so i was checkin
[03:40] <robin_> nobody got the problem, that the partition manager in the installer is way to big -> it doesn't fit in the screen.
[03:41] <robin_> hmm, kubuntu.org already down.
[03:41] <imbrandon> robin_, dosent look like it to me ....
[03:42] <robin_> imbrandon: the website, or the installer :) ?
[03:42] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: Do you mirror the wiki by chance also ?
[03:42] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, where ?
[03:42] <imbrandon> err what wiki i should say
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: You were talking about having a repository mirror I just wondered whether you also mirrored the wki
[03:43] <vinboy> hi
[03:43] <vinboy> how do I reduce the number of terminals?
[03:43] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, nah just the dapper bin and src repos
[03:43] <Hobbsee> vinboy: comment out the extra ones in /etc/inittab
[03:43] <vinboy> thanks Hobbsee
[03:43] <[HUN] Big_T> hi kubuntu users
[03:44] <imbrandon> robin_, they both come from the same server
[03:44] <Hobbsee> alepetrucci: there arent problems upgrading from an earlier beta of dapper to a later one
[03:44] <[HUN] Big_T> can anyone help me with my ubuntu install? i get an error message when the system root is mounting: cdrom_pc_intr: the drive appears confused
[03:45] <[HUN] Big_T> what to do now? :(
[03:45] <alepetrucci> hobbsee: i installed the last beta, released around one week ago...now it says idont have anything to update....and i updated the beta dayly since today
[03:46] <imbrandon> alepetrucci, then you have the release
[03:46] <Hobbsee> alepetrucci: that woudl be right
[03:46] <kkathman> alepetrucci:  this was what I was trying to say earlier
[03:46] <alepetrucci> well i already have the finalekubuntu and i didnt know  :)
[03:47] <[HUN] Big_T> anyone knows a way to fix my problem?  :[
[03:48] <robin_> imbrandon: well they both doesn't work anymore :)
[03:48] <imbrandon> [HUN] Big_T, i dont know but i'm trying to find out for you
[03:48] <[HUN] Big_T> thx imbrandon
[03:48] <robin_> i'm trying to download the alternative, since the desktop version keeps crashing while installing.
[03:49] <[HUN] Big_T> i didn't find anything in the wiki about this
[03:49] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: dpkg-reconfigure debconf was all that was necessary
[03:50] <robin_> [HUN] Big_T: are you using sata ?
[03:50] <[HUN] Big_T> no, just ide
[03:50] <[HUN] Big_T> 1 have 2 ide buses
[03:50] <[HUN] Big_T> primary: 2 ide hdd
[03:50] <robin_> [HUN] Big_T: can you set them in compatibility mode in your bios ?
[03:51] <[HUN] Big_T> robin_ i'll try
[03:51] <[HUN] Big_T> now i'm in bios
[03:51] <[HUN] Big_T> what to do?
[03:52] <imbrandon> cool h3sp4wn
[03:52] <imbrandon> ok i'm off to bed, gnight h3sp4wn, Hobbsee and everyone
[03:52] <robin_> [HUN] Big_T: I don't know for sre, I have heard from someone else who had the same problem, he could set some compatibility mode for the ide stuff
[03:52] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: Bye
[03:52] <Hobbsee> night imbrandon
[03:52] <cfraz89> night all
[03:52] <robin_> [HUN] Big_T: in the bios, which seems to fix it.
[03:53] <robin_> cya
[03:53] <[HUN] Big_T> i have to set at the ide devices the type of the cdroms to cdrom?
[03:54] <xwolf-> do I have to change breezy-updates and breezy-security repos to dapper-up.. and dapper-sec... too?
[03:55] <imbrandon> yes
[03:55] <[HUN] Big_T> ah i've found it
[03:55] <imbrandon> xwolf-, yes
[03:55] <deever> hey guys!
[03:56] <deever> the torrent seems to be broken!
[03:56] <XVampireX> Then don't download from the torrent
[03:56] <Hobbsee> deever: link to the torrent?
[03:56] <deever> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release/dvd/kubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[03:56] <Hobbsee> hmm okay, that is the right torrent
[03:57] <deever> i'm using ktorrent
[03:58] <XVampireX> Hey, where do I get to see this commercial?: http://www.ubuntu.com/include/img/totem.png
[03:59] <gil> hello
[03:59] <deever> does the torrent work for someone out there?
[03:59] <gil> can someone help me with my 6in1 card reader on a toshiba?
[03:59] <gil> what drivers/lib do i need for that
[04:00] <chavo> XVampireX, /etc/skel/Examples
[04:00] <xwolf-> how big is the full upgrade, approximately?
[04:00] <DaveQB> 600mb for me
[04:00] <chavo> xwolf-, depends on what you've installed
[04:01] <xwolf-> breezy cd.. :P
[04:01] <DaveQB> why would one have pkg's kept back after the dist-upgrade ?? mostly OOo2
[04:01] <TheFuzzball> how do I upgrade from KDE 3.5.2 to KDE 3.5.3 on Kubuntu Dapper?
[04:01] <deever> the torrent seems to be broken!
[04:01] <deever> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release/dvd/kubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[04:01] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.3
[04:01] <ubotu> kde3.5.3 is, like, to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[04:01] <deever> does the torrent work for someone out there?
[04:01] <XVampireX> chavo: Thanks
[04:02] <chavo> np
[04:02] <DexterF> bloody hell.
[04:03] <DaveQB> deever: yep
[04:03] <DexterF> reinst'ed X and kde, still wont start
[04:03] <DaveQB> deever: you mean to download, or the ISO once downloaded through torrent ?
[04:03] <Hobbsee> !xhangs
[04:03] <ubotu> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[04:04] <deever> DaveQB: to download
[04:04] <DexterF> in case that was for me - already did that 100 lines above
[04:04] <DaveQB> deever:  oh ok, yeah working here fine
[04:04] <Hobbsee> DexterF: cd && rm .Xauthority .ICEauthority && cd .kde && rm *.<username> && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:04] <DaveQB> I went through Tawain mirror
[04:04] <DaveQB> deever: http://apt.nc.hcc.edu.tw/pub/ubuntu-cd/kubuntu/6.06/
[04:04] <deever> DaveQB: ok, thanks! ;)
[04:05] <DaveQB> deever:  no worries
[04:05] <Hobbsee> DexterF: that should hopefully fix the problem
[04:05] <DexterF> Hobbsee: ok, didn't rm Xauthority, only ICE
[04:05] <Hobbsee> DexterF: do both - copy and paste that whole command
[04:06] <Hobbsee> DexterF: no, wait.
[04:06] <Hobbsee> DexterF: cd && rm .Xauthority .ICEauthority .DCOP* && cd .kde && rm *-<username> && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:06] <DexterF> Hobbsee: I don't see the point in rming .kde/*.<username>
[04:07] <Hobbsee> got one of the commands wrong :P
[04:07] <DexterF> apart from that there's nothing in .kde that matches.
[04:07] <DexterF> if there was, what would that do?
[04:07] <Hobbsee> DexterF: yes, see the new version - i meant a - rather than a .
[04:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there! somebody here uses IRC to download divx movies?
[04:08] <DexterF> Tallia1Kubuntu: bob damnit
[04:08] <XVampireX> Tallia1Kubuntu: Bad question
[04:09] <MasterEvilAce> RUN AWAY QUICKLY
[04:09] <DaveQB> could be legit movies
[04:09] <DexterF> yeah. right.
[04:09] <MasterEvilAce> does anyone else have a problem where amarok simply DOES NOT remember to NOT show a splash screen??
[04:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> meh.. whatever, thnx anyway
[04:09] <DaveQB> Elephants Dream Tallia1Kubuntu ?
[04:09] <DexterF> that you can only get on IRC
[04:09] <DaveQB> :)
[04:09] <XVampireX> Yeah, Elephants Dream is good
[04:10] <DaveQB> weird though
[04:10] <DaveQB> "Emo.... Emo ..... Emo ..... "
[04:10] <Farhad> Hello to all
[04:10] <gil> can anyone help me....i need to get my card reader setup?>
[04:10] <gil> does not pick up at all
[04:10] <DaveQB> gil sudo lspci ?
[04:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can i just ask you why you got so upset? it seems a bit weird to me.. pretty much everybody that use inet that i know downloads from the net movies and music.. could you clarify me the situation?
[04:10] <DaveQB> gil:  or sudo lsusb ?
[04:11] <DexterF> Hobbsee: what can I say. still doesn't work. I guess I really butchered that install when tinkering with Xorg.
[04:11] <DexterF> Xgl I mean
[04:11] <sPiderman> how do i install firefox 1.5
[04:11] <gil> DaveQB thanks
[04:11] <sPiderman> i have extract it
[04:11] <gil> its a built in toshiba card reader
[04:11] <DexterF> sPiderman: use adept or synaptic
[04:11] <bachstudies> is anyone having trouble getting the screensaver to activate in 6.06?
[04:11] <Hobbsee> DexterF: hmmm...
[04:11] <DaveQB> gil:  if no info on it from those commands then the kernel isnt seeing it
[04:11] <DexterF> no need to extract anything at all
[04:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> DaveQB:  DexterF: XVampireX: can you answer me?
[04:11] <Hobbsee> !tell sPiderman about firefox1.5
[04:12] <XVampireX> What?
[04:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can i just ask you why you got so upset? it seems a bit weird to me.. pretty much everybody that use inet that i know downloads from the net movies and music.. could you clarify me the situation?
[04:12] <DexterF> Tallia1Kubuntu: listen, this is a channel about Kubuntu. so thats the first thing where your question was inappropriate
[04:12] <XVampireX> I don't go on IRC for that, there are torrents for that
[04:12] <DexterF> next: you asked about warez
[04:12] <gil> lspci sees it
[04:12] <XVampireX> Yeah
[04:12] <gil> how do i access it...
[04:12] <DaveQB> what DexterF said
[04:12] <XVampireX> !offtopic
[04:12] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[04:12] <DaveQB> gil:  :)
[04:12] <DexterF> don't tdon't try to bs anyone here, if someone asks about divx via irc case is clear
[04:12] <DaveQB> gil:  did it auto mount then ??
[04:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yeah yeah i know.. but torrents i dunno why make my US-robotics not work well.. i can't navigate anymore
[04:13] <gil> no
[04:13] <DaveQB> gil:  try mount command
[04:13] <DaveQB> gil:  might reveal more
[04:13] <DaveQB> hmmm ok gil
[04:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sorry about the unappropriate question..
[04:13] <DexterF> Tallia1Kubuntu: in general: freenode and warez talk -> perm ban soon
[04:13] <DaveQB> is it plugged into the mainboard USB pins and you can unplug ?
[04:14] <DaveQB> gil:  ^
[04:14] <DexterF> this is a network thats mostly or entirely about free software and we don't wanna go anywhere near this direction
[04:14] <gil> sorry
[04:14] <DexterF> hey, my libdecss is broken :D
[04:14] <DexterF> *scnr*
[04:14] <gil> mount reveals nothing of the device
[04:14] <DaveQB> gil:  what does 'sudo fdisk -l' give you?
[04:14] <gil> gives me all mounted disks
[04:15] <DexterF> Hobbsee: no more time to tinker, ill just reinstall i guess. luckily this is a test install only
[04:15] <DaveQB> gil: fdisk -l ?
[04:15] <gil> does not show me the PCI device
[04:15] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:15] <DaveQB> it should list ALL disk, mounted or not
[04:16] <gil> shows me 6dev/sda
[04:16] <gil> sorry
[04:16] <gil> shows me dev/sda1 --- dev/sda6
[04:16] <DaveQB> gil:  ?  /dev/sda ? that should be it then
[04:16] <DaveQB> try sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[04:17] <DaveQB> gil:  my USB HDD's and MP3's get listed as /dev/sdaX devices
[04:17] <gil> these are all partitions i have on my drice
[04:17] <gil> drive
[04:17] <DaveQB> gil:  tried konqueror and going to address media:/
[04:18] <DaveQB> gil:  HDD or USB ?
[04:18] <DaveQB> gil:  need more info mate about your set up
[04:19] <gil> the only usb device i have now is an external DVDRW
[04:19] <gil> dev/sda1 windows///dev/sda2 another fat32 partition and so on...
[04:19] <gil> i have little experience in this as you can tell
[04:19] <gil> bare with me
[04:20] <DaveQB> gil:  no worries mate
[04:20] <DaveQB> but you sure they are sda and not hda ?
[04:21] <davidhouse> hi guys. it is not possible for xine to play mp3s?
[04:21] <davidhouse> in breezy, this is.
[04:21] <MasterEvilAce> xine CAN play mp3s
[04:21] <MasterEvilAce> i dunno aboot specifics
[04:21] <davidhouse> yes, i had amarok/xine playing mp3s on my suse.
[04:21] <imbrandon_zZz> davidhouse, apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:21] <davidhouse> but there doesn't seen to be a libxine-mad
[04:21] <imbrandon_zZz> davidhouse, apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:21] <davidhouse> imbrandon_zZz: breezy.
[04:22] <davidhouse> it isn't there ;)
[04:22] <imbrandon_zZz> breezy i dont know, dapper is stable ;)
[04:22] <davidhouse> is it easy to upgrade?
[04:22] <MasterEvilAce> Hey, after installing KDE3.5.3 it seems my laptop LCD keeps using MAX resolution available on startup-- rather than the MAX the monitor can support.. 1600x1200. how do i fix it? i removed resolutions above 1600x1200 from xorg.conf but they came back, and still the same thing.
[04:22] <imbrandon_zZz> davidhouse, very easy
[04:22] <NRG88> how come KDE 3.5.3 isn't on the official CD?
[04:22] <gil> so dave you wana try to give me another push here?
[04:22] <imbrandon_zZz> NRG88, it wasent avaible in time for the release
[04:23] <imbrandon_zZz> davidhouse, follow the cli instructions on this page
[04:23] <NRG88> hm, but I could upgrade to KDE 3.5.3
[04:23] <imbrandon_zZz> !upgrade
[04:23] <imbrandon_zZz> !+upgrade
[04:23] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[04:23] <empi> big thx @ all kubuntu/ubuntu developers btw,
[04:23] <Hamurabbi> does the kubuntu dvd contain both the Desktop and the "Server"/"alternate" versions ?
[04:23] <imbrandon_zZz> NRG88,  yes goto kubuntu.org and read about kde 3.5.3
[04:23] <DaveQB> gil:  paste bin the out of these 2 commands  'sudo fdisk -l' and 'mount'
[04:23] <davidhouse> thanks imbrandon_zZz. i was wiki-scouring but it's a bit slow at the minute with all the 6.06 traffic
[04:24] <NRG88> imbrandon_zZz, I heard something about a gold edition
[04:24] <robin_> ok, cool, the installer is now copying the files.
[04:24] <NRG88> like in a week or so
[04:24] <imbrandon_zZz> gold edition ? of what ?
[04:24] <robin_> the crash seems have to do with not formating the hdd.
[04:24] <NRG88> dapper
[04:24] <DaveQB> robin_:  cool.  Bout time huh ?
[04:24] <imbrandon_zZz> hahah no
[04:24] <DaveQB> robin_:  you grabbed Alternative quick
[04:24] <davidhouse> imbrandon_zZz: hmm... that applies to ubuntu. anything more specific for kubuntu?
[04:25] <DaveQB> robin_:  so the LiveCD installer expects a blank HDD ?
[04:25] <imbrandon_zZz> david i said follow the cli
[04:25] <robin_> DaveQB: no, not the alternative ;)
[04:25] <robin_> DaveQB: the desktop version..
[04:25] <DaveQB> robin_:  need to do some manual work for it to work ?
[04:25] <DaveQB> robin_:  how did you get it working then ?
[04:25] <robin_> DaveQB: I has an old reiserfs parition, and as default it won't format it again.
[04:26] <robin_> DaveQB: so, I have checked Format., and now it's working
[04:26] <robin_> DaveQB: I guess the old filesystem was fubar.
[04:26] <DaveQB> robin_:  hahaha, that simple ?
[04:26] <robin_> DaveQB: yes
[04:26] <DaveQB> robin_: do you get to select what partition to use ?
[04:26] <robin_> DaveQB: yes
[04:26] <NRG88> i wonder when will KDE 3.5.3 be included on the CD
[04:26] <DaveQB> reinstall rather, have Vector on it
[04:27] <DaveQB> cool
[04:27] <DaveQB> robin_:  get to select mount points ?
[04:27] <gil> dave how do i paste this here
[04:27] <DaveQB> NRG88:  next release is my bet
[04:27] <robin_> DaveQB: yes
[04:27] <NRG88> next release?
[04:27] <DaveQB> gil:  too much to paste here, use a paste bin, not sure of one in here, might be in the topic
[04:27] <NRG88> hey, this is not gnome :P
[04:28] <robin_> DaveQB: you are trying to install it now ?
[04:28] <DaveQB> robin_:  no, well dist-upgrading my Desktop
[04:28] <robin_> DaveQB: ok
[04:28] <DaveQB> robin_:  waiting for the big OOo2 pkgs to download
[04:29] <chavo> NRG88, you can get 3.5.3, but it won't be on the CD
[04:29] <DaveQB> you know OOo has more lines of code then the kernel! Almost double, from memory
[04:29] <NRG88> :(
[04:29] <robin_> the kubuntu server is kinda strange or it won't connect or it does, and than you get full speed :)
[04:29] <NRG88> ok
[04:29] <chavo> !kde3.5.3
[04:29] <ubotu> rumour has it, kde3.5.3 is to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[04:29] <NRG88> when will the DVD be out?
[04:34] <gil> DaveQB:http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=63124
[04:35] <robin_> cool
[04:35] <robin_> kubuntu installed :)
[04:35] <robin_> went pretty fast
[04:35] <Hamurabbi> what cd did you use ?
[04:36] <robin_> Desktop
[04:36] <DaveQB> gil: so sda is definately your HDD then,
[04:36] <DaveQB> gil:  fdisk -l ?
[04:36] <Hamurabbi> is it fast ?
[04:36] <gil> yes
[04:36] <DaveQB> robin_:  20mins ?
[04:36] <Hamurabbi> stable ?
[04:36] <robin_> I think less than 20mins
[04:37] <gil> this is what i get from lspci http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=63125
[04:37] <DaveQB> gil:  this might help, before i forget about it
[04:37] <DaveQB> http://www.cs.sfu.ca/~ggbaker/personal/cf-linux
[04:37] <gil> you will see that at the end it pick up card reader
[04:38] <DaveQB> gil:  ahh mass storage device, thats a plus
[04:39] <Firetech> hmm, I can't reinstall kubuntu-desktop for upgrading, since it depends on akode, that doesn't want to be installed...
[04:39] <DaveQB> gil:  cat /proc/bus/usb/devices ?
[04:42] <gil> sorry must run
[04:42] <gil> i appreciate the help so far
[04:42] <yamal> is there anywhere to get the dvd iso other than bittorrent?
[04:42] <porter235> hey all.. looking for suggestions.. i am attempting to upgrade to dapper. dist-upgrade wants to remove all kde stuff... checked -f install kubuntu-desktop and it wont go due to dependencies that won't be installed. so should i just go ahead and do the dist-upgrade (removing all kde) and THEN the -f install kubuntu-desktop? will i still have all of my config info?
[04:44] <DaveQB> porter235:  yeah, if you want to be certain, backup your ~/.kde folder
[04:44] <DaveQB> but maybe you haven't the right repos in sources.list ??
[04:45] <silensius> c
[04:45] <porter235> deb file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main
[04:45] <porter235> ## All officially supported packages, including security- and other updates
[04:45] <porter235> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[04:45] <porter235> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[04:45] <porter235> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[04:45] <porter235> ## The source packages (only needed to recompile existing packages)
[04:45] <porter235> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[04:45] <porter235> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[04:45] <porter235> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[04:45] <porter235> ## All community supported packages, including security- and other updates
[04:45] <porter235> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[04:45] <porter235> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[04:45] <porter235> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse
[04:46] <DexterF> porter235: pastebin, axpr.net or #flood
[04:46] <porter235> sorry
[04:47] <porter235> <- irc ignoramous
[04:47] <DexterF> Hobbsee: found sth interesting in ~/.xsession-errors - apparently kde borks because it can't create a new error log file
[04:47] <Hobbsee> porter235: do not paste!
[04:47] <porter235> got it. thanks.
[04:47] <Hobbsee> DexterF: er, okay then....
[04:48] <DexterF> says no perm for writing to /dev/null - i checked from my main system (slackware), had 666, but I remember in kubuntu it had only 600
[04:48] <DexterF> and belonged to root:root
[04:48] <DexterF> udev bug?
[04:50] <h3sp4wn> DexterF: Should be 666 (is on both my dapper boxes)
[04:50] <DexterF> ok, ill check it in th elive system... later
[04:51] <DaveQB> porter235: this might help http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[04:56] <caribou7> I just installed Kubuntu on a system sitting next to this one
[04:56] <caribou7> I have two questions if anyone can help me
[04:57] <caribou7> 1) How do I install the Krusader file manager?
[04:57] <caribou7> 2) I installed Firefox but it does not seem to have tabs as in Windows, why?
[04:58] <tidalwav1> it should have tabs--hit ctrl+t
[04:58] <tidalwav1> see if one appears
[04:58] <caribou7> Okay, that worked.  Hmmm.
[04:58] <tidalwav1> you probably have an extension installed on your other system to keep the tab bar visible when no tabs are open.
[04:58] <DaveQB> caribou7: right click (near the top) > Customize .....
[04:59] <imbrandon> tidalwav1, thats not an extension its an option
[04:59] <imbrandon> in normal ff
[04:59] <tidalwav1> ah
[04:59] <tidalwav1> I always used an extension :P
[04:59] <imbrandon> just goto options its inthe tab options
[04:59] <tidalwav1> tab mix plus
[04:59] <tidalwav1> heh
[04:59] <tidalwav1> as for my question:
[05:00] <caribou7> Ah, that's the problem I'll bet
[05:00] <tidalwav1> I'm trying to get my network up using ndiswrapper
[05:00] <tidalwav1> kubuntu's detecting my wireless card as eth0
[05:00] <caribou7> I probably need the tab mix plus extension.
[05:00] <tidalwav1> even though ndiswrapper said driver and hardware present and the module's loaded
[05:01] <caribou7> DaveQB, I do not see a "Customize" option.
[05:01] <tidalwav1> I can't bring up the network
[05:01] <imbrandon> and the problem is ?
[05:01] <tidalwav1> even though it's detected as eth0
[05:01] <DaveQB> caribou7: what do you have then ?
[05:01] <imbrandon> type "dhclient eth0" see what happens
[05:01] <tidalwav1> sudo dhclient eth0 fails
[05:01] <tidalwav1> so does ifup eth0
[05:01] <imbrandon> hrm thats as much as i know about ndiswrapper
[05:01] <imbrandon> brb
[05:02] <tidalwav1> heh k
[05:02] <tidalwav1> actually it was detected as eth1 :P doesn't really matter
[05:02] <tidalwav1> I tried the commands with 1 not 0
[05:02] <tidalwav1> lol
[05:02] <tidalwav1> idk, is there a way to force network reconfiguration?
[05:02] <h3sp4wn> Do you what chipset your card is based upon ?
[05:02] <Hobbsee> tidalwav1: is there any encryption on the network?
[05:02] <tidalwav1> uhhh
[05:02] <tidalwav1> nope, no encryption.
[05:03] <tidalwav1> it's a microsoft mn 720.
[05:03] <tidalwav1> I'll get the chipset in a second.
[05:03] <tidalwav1> pci based.
[05:03] <tidalwav1> would lspci inform me of the chipset?
[05:03] <Hobbsee> yes
[05:03] <tidalwav1> looks like a broadcom BCM43xG
[05:04] <tidalwav1> I had this problem with the beta releases of dapper as well
[05:04] <tidalwav1> I think it's something that KDE is doing
[05:04] <tidalwav1> if I hit 'enable interface' it lights up in the network settings dialog then dies almost instantly
[05:05] <tidalwav1> but like I said
[05:05] <h3sp4wn> tidalwav1: Have you installed the firmware ?
[05:06] <tidalwav1> is there a way to just force reconfiguration?
[05:06] <tidalwav1> what do you mean by firmware
[05:06] <tidalwav1> you mean the ndiswrapper drivers?
[05:06] <tidalwav1> yes.
[05:07] <h3sp4wn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:07] <h3sp4wn> Don't use ndiswrapper with dapper (unless its a last resort)
[05:07] <iqon> does anyone have google video working in konquerer?
[05:08] <damian_> yes i have
[05:08] <iqon> how do i get it to work?
[05:08] <klerfayt> iqon: it's half broken here
[05:08] <Seantater_> I've never gotten it to work
[05:09] <klerfayt> I thnk that you need java to get it working?
[05:09] <james_xxx> i have several wireless cards around here... have got none of them to work yet
[05:09] <tidalwav1> ok, awesome, looks like I should be able to use the bcm43 driver
[05:09] <tidalwav1> I'll try that
[05:10] <rohan> kubuntu.org is down ?
[05:12] <foodcoman> Woooooop!    Good Job Kubuntu/Ubuntu Team...... You Rock!
[05:12] <rohan> wish i could go to the site :P
[05:13] <robin_> I have some problem with my wifi, according to this site: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/329  I have to run bcm43xx-fwcutter, but it isn't installed, and neither apt can find it in the repositories.
[05:13] <chavo> rohan, it's loading here, but really slow
[05:13] <rohan> ouch, kubuntu already has so many problems ?! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems
[05:13] <rohan> chavo: oh, here its timing out
[05:13] <noch> good morning
[05:13] <klerfayt> iqon: I can see the videos in google but "arrow" key that let's you zoom 1:1 doesn't work
[05:13] <foodcoman> I am glad its that popular.
[05:13] <chavo> yeah I can imagine it's getting hammered :)
[05:13] <noch> or evening, night, whatever
[05:14] <klerfayt> iqon: how did yu install flash?
[05:14] <noch> anyone try the new release yet?
[05:14] <DeadS0ul> noch:  i'm on it
[05:14] <DeadS0ul> and have been for a while
[05:14] <foodcoman> noch: I installed the RC and have updated.  Very nice and smooth.
[05:14] <DeadS0ul> it's pretty sweet hehe
[05:14] <noch> hmm
[05:15] <noch> ok
[05:15] <DeadS0ul> only problem is I can't get my remote for my bttv card working
[05:15] <cuco> Riddell, here?
[05:15] <robin_> I have some problem with my wifi, according to this site: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/329  I have to run bcm43xx-fwcutter, but it isn't installed, and neither apt can find it in the repositories. <= someone can check this ?
[05:16] <cuco> Riddell, is it ok to add a new patch for kdelibs which fixes http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118319 ?
[05:17] <DeadS0ul> I have it ..
[05:17] <DeadS0ul> robin_: I have it
[05:17] <noch> sigh . .
[05:18] <noch> i love it when i dont use my laptop for a few days and i come on to 2309442989 new updates . . .
[05:18] <robin_> DeadS0ul: hmm strange, I have updated my repositories, but still it can't be found
[05:18] <robin_> DeadS0ul: can you see in which repository  ?
[05:18] <Hobbsee> noch: hehe - now be fair here - even from breezy, the number of updates is under 1000
[05:19] <DeadS0ul> pool/universe/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060108-6build1_i386.deb
[05:19] <jeff_> lol
[05:19] <noch> heh yea
[05:19] <jeff_> does anybody know the default directory of kde base?
[05:20] <jeff_> i need it for Kinstaller
[05:20] <Hobbsee> er....locate kdebase?
[05:20] <foodcoman> jeff_: Your package manager will tell you.
[05:21] <Kronoz> is the final  kdapper much different to the rc?
[05:21] <h3sp4wn> jeff_: dpkg -L kde-base (if it is installed)
[05:21] <h3sp4wn> jeff_: dpkg -L kdebase (sorry)
[05:22] <jeff_> foodcoman: i mostly only use apt, would apt-cache show kdebase do the trick?
[05:22] <jeff_> lol ok
[05:22] <jeff_> thanks
[05:22] <robin_> DeadS0ul: thx, for some odd reason apt had disabled all repositories (comment out in sources.list).
[05:23] <tidalwav1> the bcm43xx driver didn't work, but blacklisting that module and using ndiswrapper worked perfectly :P
[05:23] <jeff_> h3sp4wn: it lists a few directories
[05:23] <h3sp4wn> jeff_: that lists all the files installed by kdebase
[05:23] <DeadS0ul> haha
[05:24] <DeadS0ul> what wifi cards work in linux atm?
[05:24] <h3sp4wn> atheros (best)
[05:24] <h3sp4wn> intel / ralink
[05:24] <foodcoman> DeadS0ul: The Intel in my Thinkpad R52 is working nicely!  =D
[05:24] <robin_> DeadS0ul: I hope I can use my broadcom with the experimental drivers, otherwise I have to use ndiswrapper again, and stick to the windows driver, which works perfect though.
[05:26] <Firetech> hmm... dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper wants to remove an awfull lot of packages, not just all of KDE, but also gnome stuff like gedit etc, mozilla-broswer and nvidia-settings (and a lot more)... is this normal?
[05:26] <Firetech> 1618 upgraded, 231 newly installed, 529 to remove and 12 not upgraded.
[05:26] <foodcoman> Native support for the Intel 2200BG in the base install.
[05:27] <DeadS0ul> yah I got the intell 2100 working on my laptop
[05:30] <foodcoman> Wow 1084 nicks in ubuntu.  Sheesh.
[05:30] <Hobbsee> foodcoman: yeah, wow :P
[05:30] <Hobbsee> that's bigger then #gentoo or #debian
[05:31] <Hobbsee> thank goodness for a lack of spammers though!
[05:31] <aeon17x> is that the new record?
[05:31] <foodcoman> http://distrowatch.org   Check out the hit rates at the right.  Popularity.
[05:31] <Hobbsee> i'd beleive so
[05:32] <aseigo_lsb> foodcoman: those stats are more than a little skewed
[05:34] <foodcoman> Its not Linux popularity.  Its hit rates on that web site per link of distro.
[05:35] <jeekl> How do I specify qtdir when running configre? --qtdir=/usr/share/qt4 right?
[05:36] <chavo> jeekl, ./configure --help
[05:36] <foodcoman> aseigo_lsb: I just assume alot of people are seeing what the Ubuntu buzz is all about.
[05:37] <robin_> To use WPA encryption, I'm still forced to use the wpasupplicant scripts ?
[05:37] <jeekl> chavo: Yes, thats what I did. And I did it rihgt. Where does kubuntu install qt 4?
[05:37] <robin_> the GUI still only offers WEP input box.
[05:38] <Hobbsee> robin_: install knetworkmanager
[05:40] <robin_> Hobbsee: looks cool, gonna try it out, why isn't installed by default ?
[05:40] <jorgp> on distrowatch.org, why is kubuntu so low
[05:40] <Hobbsee> robin_: i dont know...
[05:40] <Hobbsee> jorgp: less kubuntu users than ubuntu ones
[05:40] <jeekl> chavo: This is what I'm getting http://pastebin.com/751514
[05:41] <h3sp4wn> robin_ : you can now configure wpa_supplicant from /etc/network/interfaces
[05:42] <chavo> jeekl, did you  set $QTDIR
[05:42] <jeekl> chavo: No, do I need to whenusing qtdir?
[05:42] <h3sp4wn> robin_: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes (is pretty easy to understand)
[05:43] <Hobbsee> h3sp4wn: you can do it from knetworkmanager too :P
[05:43] <h3sp4wn> Hobbsee: If you want your connection to go down all the time (at least on ralink and atheros) :D
[05:44] <Hobbsee> h3sp4wn: ah okay - i dont have those cards
[05:45] <_john> hello everyone
[05:45] <Phleagor> hi
[05:45] <Hobbsee> hi
[05:45] <_john> i am new to kubuntu....and i would like to ask a few questions
[05:46] <Hobbsee> !+ask
[05:46] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:46] <jeekl> chavo: I've set $QTDIR=/usr/share/qt4 but still getting the same result.
[05:47] <_john> ok....i have avi files that i want to burn to player on my dvd player connected to my tv....i tried installing tovid + tovid-gui...but the gui part won't install
[05:49] <dontm> is there any way to upgrade to dapper from breezy w/o reinstalling?
[05:49] <_john> is there another program to convert avi files besides tovid
[05:49] <Phleagor> yes dontm
[05:49] <Phleagor> update your sources.list
[05:49] <Phleagor> and then
[05:49] <Phleagor> #apt-get update
[05:49] <Phleagor> # apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:49] <Phleagor> i'm doin it at the moment
[05:50] <Phleagor> it is installing the packages
[05:50] <oates> and then reinstall kde, right?
[05:50] <Phleagor> i think it installs automatically
[05:50] <oates> i did a dist-upgrade and it removed all kde packages
[05:50] <Jacci> Is it possible to install kubuntu on a separate physical drive so that the windows disks would remain inaccessible from linux?
[05:50] <Phleagor> then do "apt-get insyall kubuntu-desktop" as root
[05:51] <oates> or rather, is in the process of doing so :)
[05:51] <oates> yeah
[05:51] <dontm> Phleagor: is there a website detailing all those steps?
[05:51] <Phleagor> yes
[05:51] <Phleagor> mom
[05:51] <_john> another thing...i am used to debian proper....i want to upgrade my kernel.....can you apt-get linux-imge and install a new kernel
[05:51] <armedking>  Is there a way to look for unused installed packages and remove them. ie. when installing something it installes deps but when removing the main package the dependancys remain
[05:51] <dontm> mom?
[05:52] <robin__> cool, the broadcom drivers rocks :) it even find more wifi networks than the windows driver :D
[05:52] <h3sp4wn> dontm: sudo sed -ie "s/breezy/dapper/" sources.list && grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list (should all say dapper) then sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:52] <Phleagor> mom = one moment, please :)
[05:52] <gil> ok am back now...
[05:52] <gil> i have a toshiba m40x....i cant for the life of me get the Card reader to pick up an inserted card
[05:53] <Phleagor> dontm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[05:53] <robin__> and knetwork manager works great, although it complains the network has been disconnected, while it is still active and working ;)
[05:53] <armedking> Anyone?
[05:54] <Phleagor> i will restart now
[05:54] <Phleagor> brb
[05:54] <Hobbsee> armedking: in aptitude somehwo
[05:54] <dontm> Phleagor: ty exactly what i was looking for
[05:54] <_john> does dapper have xorg 7.0
[05:54] <Jacci> How can you "disable" the windows disks from linux?
[05:54] <armedking> Hobbsee: Well the questing it how realy. It doesnt have a function like that.
[05:55] <Hobbsee> armedking: i think it happens when you sudo aptitude remove apackage, and it gets rid of unneeded ones a swell
[05:55] <jorgp> _john: yes
[05:55] <Firetech> is it normal that all of KDE gets uninstalled on upgrade to dapper? (im using the official 3.5.2 packages for breezy)
[05:56] <Hobbsee> Firetech: so it seems
[05:56] <Phleagor> re
[05:56] <Phleagor> it works
[05:56] <Phleagor> i have dapper :D
[05:56] <Phleagor> *dance*
[05:57] <_john> rats then i can't upgrade to dapper .... pout
[05:57] <Hobbsee> Phleagor: yay!  did you dist-upgrade?
[05:57] <Phleagor> yes
[05:57] <Phleagor> click the link i postet above
[05:57] <Firetech> Hobbsee: it it normal that a lot of other packages like gedit and mozilla-browser gets removed too?
[05:57] <Phleagor> there is the description how it works
[05:57] <dr_willis> they get removed then reinstalled i think.
[05:58] <Hobbsee> dr_willis: a FYI - if you've already got an earlier version of dapper, you dont have to reinstall now that the release is out - it's fine to upgrade
[05:58] <Phleagor> hmm...the plastik theme looks a bit different
[05:58] <dr_willis> Hobbsee:  ive been upgrading for the last 2 months. :P
[05:58] <Firetech> I have kde (used), gnome (unused) and xfce (unused) installed, don't reawlly know why...
[05:58] <nico8481> hello
[05:59] <dr_willis> Moo
[05:59] <dontm> Phleagor: why not just use the "update-manager" approach?
[06:00] <Hobbsee> night all.
[06:00] <Phleagor> i don't know it, dontm
[06:00] <Phleagor> so i just replaced the sources.list
[06:00] <Phleagor> i think it's easier
[06:00] <Phleagor> and i know what i have done
[06:01] <jarlath> Whats on the DVD version of kubuntu that isnt on the CD?
[06:01] <Hobbsee> jarlath: all of main, i believe
[06:03] <jarlath> Hobbsee, thanks.
[06:05] <dontm> Phleagor: so basically it's just a matter of replacing breezy w/ dapper in the source list, updating the headers, and then issuing dist-upgrade?
[06:06] <Hobbsee> dontm: yep
[06:06] <Phleagor> yes
[06:06] <dontm> ok i guess i will HAVE to do it manually being that the url in the wiki is down
[06:06] <dontm> =-(
[06:06] <dontm> paste.ubuntu-nl.org:6666 is down
[06:07] <Hobbsee> dontm: use pastebin.com
[06:07] <dontm> that is where the updated source list resides according to the wiki
[06:07] <dontm> ?
[06:07] <dontm> Hobbsee: what do u mean?
[06:08] <Hobbsee> dontm: as paste.ubuntu-nl.org is down, use another pastebin service..
[06:08] <caribou7> Okay, can anyone tell me how to install Krusader
[06:08] <Hobbsee> !krusader
[06:08] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:08] <Hobbsee> sudo apt-get install krusader?
[06:08] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install krusader
[06:08] <dr_willis> :P
[06:09] <caribou7> Thanks
[06:09] <dontm> Hobbsee: ok so pastebin.com:6666 will also contain the updated source list?
[06:09] <nomad411> had never heard of Krusader before, how would that be better than splitting a view in Konqueror?
[06:09] <nomad411> !krusader
[06:09] <ubotu> nomad411: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:09] <Hobbsee> dontm: i doubt it
[06:10] <Kronoz> nomad411, krusader has more file operation options i think
[06:10] <nomad411> ahh
[06:10] <nomad411> will look at it
[06:11] <h3sp4wn> dontm: have a look at http://www.dirtytechno.org/linux/sources.list and I know its working
[06:12] <dontm> h3sp4wn: thank you very much yet again
[06:12] <caribou7> I got Couldn't find package krusader
[06:13] <dontm> h3sp4wn: i am assuming i can safely change gb to us?
[06:13] <DrCurl> hello
[06:13] <h3sp4wn> dontm: yes
[06:13] <DrCurl> Will networkmanager integrate well with xubuntu?
[06:13] <h3sp4wn> dontm: It presumes that both archives are working correctly at the moment
[06:14] <h3sp4wn> DrCurl: #xubuntu may know
[06:14] <DrCurl> ha sorry
[06:14] <DrCurl> wrong chanel :(
[06:15] <dontm> kk pkgs are downloading now thank you all for ur help
[06:16] <dontm> so after dist-upgrade finishes
[06:17] <dontm> i should reinstall/update the kubuntu-desktop pkg right?
[06:17] <h3sp4wn> dontm: yes
[06:17] <dontm> and then that's it right?
[06:17] <h3sp4wn> dontm: That is listed as a bug on the kubuntu page I think
[06:17] <dontm> oh damn
[06:18] <h3sp4wn> dontm: Its not a problem though just put it back sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:18] <dontm> right yeah just saw that on the wiki cool thanks
[06:18] <r0xz> the language of ktorrent svn in dapper changed recently. Is it possible to change it back?
[06:18] <h3sp4wn> dontm: Are you using ndiswrapper or any strange wireless stuff ?
[06:19] <dontm> h3sp4wn: seriously thanks for all ur help.  im gonna go get rdy for work now while all this ish downloads bbl
[06:19] <dontm> h3sp4wn: nah this is all for fun in vmware
[06:19] <csko> how can i install dapper using expert mode?
[06:19] <dontm> h3sp4wn: actually i was thinking of getting a laptop soon and throwing kubu on it.  any recos?  tuxmobil is good but a lil outdated =-/
[06:21] <caribou7> Well I'm unimpressed with Kubuntu so far... first thing I try to install (besides Firefox) turning out to be major problem - I found instructions at http://www.elijahlofgren.com/ubuntu/breezy/ (under Build a stable Krusader) but it doesn't work
[06:21] <dontm> caribou7: that doesnt mean u should be unimpressed w/ the entire distro cuz ONE pkg gives u problems =-)
[06:22] <Phleagor> hmm...sound is very silent now
[06:22] <Phleagor> mixers are all at the top
[06:22] <caribou7> Well, except this is the equivalent of the one program I use the most under Windows.
[06:22] <dr_willis>  apt-cache search krusader
[06:22] <dr_willis> krusader - Twin-panel (commander-style) File Manager for KDE
[06:22] <chavo> kruasder is in universe
[06:23] <davidhouse> hi guys. just upgrade to dapper. everything seems to be hanging together, but irssi segfaults.
[06:23] <caribou7> That doesn't maen anything to me, I'm new at this
[06:23] <chavo> !repos
[06:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:23] <dr_willis> I would NOT trust that http://www.elijahlofgren.com/ubuntu/breezy/ site.. for several reasons.. one its for breezy. ;p we are now using dapper.
[06:23] <caribou7> Oh
[06:23] <dr_willis> secondly it reccomends to use automatix.
[06:23] <caribou7> That's how little I know
[06:24] <dr_willis> which is 'bad' :)
[06:24] <caribou7> That's not a good idea?
[06:24] <caribou7> I had heard that was a good thing to install
[06:24] <dr_willis> its a VERY VERY VERY bad thing to use
[06:25] <caribou7> I had heard you need to use that to get certain types of media to play.
[06:25] <dr_willis> if you must use a helper-script try that  easyubuntu one. (i think)
[06:25] <dr_willis> you dont have to use automatix. it can all be done safer manually
[06:25] <dr_willis> !easyubuntu
[06:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[06:25] <dr_willis> java - is now in the repos.. and is trivial to install. :P
[06:25] <dr_willis> so even thats a little out of date
[06:25] <caribou7> Okay
[06:26] <dr_willis> best solution - learn how/why to install the stuff you need yourself. normally its a look up on the wiki page.. a little reading and a cut/paste to the console. :P
[06:27] <caribou7> What wiki page?  I JUST put this up this morning.
[06:27] <dr_willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[06:28] <caribou7> Don't assume I know ANYTHING other than how to get around in Windows.  :-)
[06:28] <dr_willis> then you should spend a few hrs reading that wiki, and several linux tutorials.
[06:28] <dr_willis> and not say how 'unimpressed' you are about things till you have enough experience to give a educated oponion. :)
[06:29] <SkrotFFS> Hi. Using konqueror and having kmplayer installed should make kmplayer embedd in konqueror when visiting sites such as apple.com/trailers right?
[06:29] <dr_willis> theres also a great many other 2 pane file managers other then Krusader. I perfer 'mc'
[06:30] <caribou7> Reason I am unimpressed is because I was told that this was the Linux for Windows users - it isn't as easy as Windows!
[06:30] <Phleagor> oh yes it is
[06:30] <caribou7> mc - command not found
[06:31] <dr_willis> linux tip #1 - 'think'
[06:31] <dr_willis> if its not there - install it. :P
[06:31] <nzt> hello
[06:31] <h3sp4wn> caribou7: Doing some things on windows is non trivial (using the iis object for example)
[06:31] <caribou7> Well, can you tell me how to install Krusader?  Found this wiki page, no installation instructions there:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportKrusader?highlight=%28Krusader%29
[06:31] <caribou7> I don't do that on Windows
[06:32] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install krusader
[06:32] <caribou7> I would not even know what the iis option is.
[06:32] <dr_willis> is what i used.
[06:32] <dr_willis> you are makign it way tooo hard. :P
[06:32] <dr_willis> !info krusader
[06:33] <ubotu> krusader: (Twin-panel (commander-style) File Manager for KDE), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.60.0-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1937 kB, Installed size: 5276 kB
[06:33] <DaveQB> After upgrading to Dapper, anyone have trouble with Nvidia module ?
[06:33] <foodcoman> caribou7: Its in the package manager.  Just have to add the Icon to kmenu
[06:33] <caribou7> it says "couldn't find package krusader"
[06:33] <caribou7> Please explain
[06:33] <mezz> have you enabled the universe repositary?
[06:33] <foodcoman> caribou7: You probably havent enabled the other repositories.
[06:33] <caribou7> How do I do that?
[06:33] <DaveQB> and ran and update
[06:33] <dr_willis> !universe
[06:33] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:34] <mezz> once you have done that installing stuff will be really easy :)
[06:34] <dr_willis> a few clicks in the package manager. is one way.   i do it  so automatically.
[06:34] <foodcoman> caribou7: You can do this in adept package manager under system.
[06:34] <dr_willis> but that stuff is considered less 'stable' i guess you can sao. so its not the default.
[06:34] <foodcoman> caribou7: its a menu option.
[06:34] <Kronoz> how are people finding kubuntu dapper?
[06:34] <dr_willis> actually dont the 'add/remove' programs entry auto-ask to enable them?
[06:35] <foodcoman> Kronoz: I like it better than my Breezy installs.
[06:35] <nzt> hmmm i've got a little trouble on da Kubujtu dapper  if in can ?
[06:35] <Kronoz> nzt, jsut ask your question
[06:35] <caribou7> Okay, give me a minute to digest that, I'm looking at the page now
[06:36] <foodcoman> caribou7: Open Kmenu/system/adept.... then go to the Adept menu, then manage repositories.  Then you can enable the ones not enabled
[06:36] <dr_willis> caribou7:  look in the kde menus 'add/remove programs' i THought it asked if i wanted to enable those extra repos. as well.
[06:36] <dr_willis> but thats one of the first things i do on a clean install. :P so not sure.
[06:36] <mezz> Kronoz: I really like it, occasionally has a really annoying crash when shutting down, but other than its great
[06:36] <nzt> i've only the defauts one
[06:36] <foodcoman> dr_willis: Sorry for butting in.  I will hold.  Sorry
[06:37] <dr_willis> foodcoman:  can you confirm that it did do that for you? I cant rember for sure if it did ask.
[06:38] <dr_willis> foodcoman:  it may of been the gnome add/remove program that did it :P
[06:38] <dr_willis> hmm adept looks updates since last i used it. :P
[06:38] <foodcoman> dr_willis: I manaully enabled mine in Adept.
[06:38] <foodcoman> dr_willis: I am running add/remove now.
[06:39] <dr_willis> foodcoman:  yea. :P i  just seem to recall that on an install i ran ad/remove first to see what it did. and it may of asked to set up the repos. since they were not set up.
[06:39] <foodcoman> dr_willis: Unless checking the Unsupported/proprietary check boxes on the top right does this, then I would say no.
[06:39] <caribou7> Okay, I went to that Wiki page and I found adept but when I click on "Adept" it does not show what the wiki page shows, only the "Quit" option shows.
[06:41] <dr_willis> caribou7:  try the "add/remove programs" entry in the menus and  see if you can install krusader that way  (its all just different front ends to the same tools)
[06:41] <caribou7> Oh... you have to do sudo adept
[06:41] <caribou7> no I tried that already.
[06:41] <dr_willis> that wiki page is showing the gnome tools/screen shots.
[06:41] <caribou7> Shows KDE near the bottom
[06:41] <dr_willis> there it is. :P lol
[06:41] <nzt> have any solution for my noob trouble on dapper please
[06:41] <dr_willis> looks like thats the old adept. :P
[06:42] <mezz> nzt: whats the problem?
[06:42] <foodcoman> nzt:Lost of practice, and reading will fix any noob troubles.   =D
[06:42] <dr_willis> check them and search for krusader
[06:43] <nzt> i've take dapper but when i've dowload skins et sudo cp them don't working
[06:43] <dr_willis> yep.. check 'unsupported' and krusader shows up. :P
[06:43] <nzt> one hour i try and read :)
[06:43] <|ikaros|> is there a java repository for dapper drake? (with j2sdk)
[06:43] <foodcoman> dr_willis: I checked those, and then searched for 'krus' and krusader showed, but I have already enabled my repose in Adept under the system menu.
[06:44] <dr_willis> foodcoman:  yea.. thats a nice little way of them  doing it.. but its a little 'vague' on how it works with the other repos.
[06:44] <mezz> nzt: I don't understand.
[06:44] <nzt> i've got only this on Amsn cos' my wife want it all of the others cp works
[06:45] <foodcoman> dr_willis: Yeah who know exactly what repos, backports I suppose and ...........
[06:45] <nzt> ON a kubuntu dapper put amsn dowload skins but its impossible to paste them and use
[06:45] <nzt> the sudo cp doesn't work on other log
[06:46] <jorgp> do the packages in kubuntu.org have mp3 support enabled?
[06:46] <davidhouse> what do the first two characters of each line mean in dpkg -l? i can't find the information in the manpage for some reason
[06:46] <visik7> jorgp: what do you mena mp3 support ?
[06:46] <ubuntu> anybody here using xubuntu live cd?
[06:46] <visik7> davidhouse: status and marked
[06:46] <foodcoman> jorgp: I installed xmms alone and streamed from shoutcast.com
[06:46] <jorgp> visik7: like amarok 1.4, will it play mp3 files
[06:46] <visik7> explained on the top
[06:46] <visik7> amarok 1.4 has a separe repo
[06:46] <visik7> and by the way amarok relay on xine
[06:47] <mezz> nzt: I think I understand, so you have installed new amsn skins but can't work out how to use them?
[06:47] <visik7> so if you have xine mp3 support you can play mp3
[06:47] <robin__> how can i play mp3 files with amarok ?
[06:47] <robin__> I need some package with the mp3 codec ?
[06:47] <visik7> !restricted
[06:47] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:47] <nzt> the dl skins cannot be cp to the good directory /usr/amsn/skins
[06:47] <davidhouse> ah, i see. thanks visik7.
[06:48] <robin__> thx
[06:48] <visik7> !tell robin_ about restricted
[06:48] <mindfocus> I have a really basic question. How do you change the resolution of the verbose startup? I would like to configure it to where the initial verbose output is displayed at 1024X768.
[06:48] <ng_> just install libxine-extracodecs to play mp3
[06:48] <nzt> all others programmes skins in usr are cp with sudo but not for amsn
[06:48] <visik7> mindfocus: vga=791
[06:48] <SkrotFFS> visik7: Will that remove the graphical booter?
[06:48] <dr_willis> mindfocus:  thats a kernel/boot option that you would set in the grub's config file. Not sure if tehres a nice gui to do it.
[06:49] <visik7> SkrotFFS: to remove graphical boot loader you need to remove splash from the line of the kernel in menu.lst
[06:49] <mezz> ntz: are you getting an error message when you try to copy them?
[06:49] <SkrotFFS> visik7: I want higher resolution on boot and a graphical splash. Will the play nice with eachother?
[06:49] <gurumeditationer> <stupid question>The 6.06 "desktop" live image that can install to HD, is the result of that installation equivalent to what happens with the "install" image of 5.10</stupid question>
[06:49] <mindfocus> Alright cool. Thanks.
[06:49] <dr_willis> ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
[06:49] <dr_willis> # defoptions=quiet splash
[06:49] <robin_> !tell robin_ about restricted
[06:50] <Big_T> hi
[06:50] <macd> kubuntu.org down or just dead slow?
[06:51] <SkrotFFS> macd: Just dead slow
[06:51] <altprsona> if my actions are going acording to plan, then iv just redid my video driver.. and now would like to do nvidia-config but that dosnt work im on kubuntu 5.1
[06:51] <TuxTech> can someone help me with a Xubuntu question?
[06:51] <tRSS> where can I get the latest sources.list, so that I can upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[06:51] <macd> SkrotFFS: yeah it just started to load....
[06:51] <foodcoman> Easyubuntu work in Kubuntu with no hitches?
[06:52] <macd> tRSS: http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:52] <Big_T> got an installation problem, please read the post and help, if you can: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1076892#post1076892
[06:52] <visik7> dr_willis: the right way to do it is :
[06:52] <visik7> dr_willis: edit the line 66 (or near by)
[06:52] <visik7> dr_willis: it starts with # kopt=
[06:52] <dr_willis> yea. im just now realizing how Well done the update-grub 'system' they are using is.
[06:53] <ccc_> gurumeditationer: yes. i.e. both live and install on one disc.
[06:53] <visik7> dracflamloc:  mine is # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=791
[06:53] <visik7> ops
[06:53] <visik7> dr_willis:
[06:53] <gurumeditationer> thanks, ccc_
[06:53] <visik7> dr_willis: and then update-grub
[06:53] <visik7> ok you know what to do
[06:53] <gurumeditationer> One last question: is the "alternative" image basically the same as 5.10 install?
[06:54] <dr_willis> visik7:  i think the defoptions is better.  since it dont add the extra to the 'rescue' entry.
[06:54] <ccc_> gurumeditationer: read here: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/dapper/
[06:54] <dr_willis> but it depends on teh exact option and what you are doing i guess
[06:54] <visik7> dr_willis: depend
[06:54] <robin_> visik7: well the page you gave me, sais I have to install libxine-extracodecs
[06:55] <robin_> visik7: but the package is not in the repositories
[06:55] <robin_> visik7: I have universe enabled.
[06:55] <visik7> !tell robin_  about multiverse
[06:55] <Blippe> after logging in kde the screenresolution changes to something screwey, how do i remove that?
[06:56] <gurumeditationer> sorry to spam the room with dumb questions, ccc_, but someone told me that the live installation didn't install the same stuff as a "proper" install and I couldn't google anything specific.
[06:56] <robin_> visik7: sorry, but thank you :)
[06:56] <dr_willis> gurumeditationer:  ive not heard of any differaance with the ubuntu live/installers.
[06:56] <dr_willis> now some other live disrto/cds do have differances
[06:56] <gurumeditationer> Yeah I'm thinking the guy was full of shit
[06:57] <dr_willis> live cd's are often smaller and have less things on them when isntalled to hd.
[06:57] <Blippe> gurumeditationer, the desktop cd (what used to be the live) is the "proper" cd!
[06:57] <dr_willis> Blippe:  yea - ive noticed that as well. :P
[06:57] <dr_willis> the live-installer is now the default installer.
[06:58] <gurumeditationer> Cool, thanks for clearing that up for me.
[06:58] <TuxTech> anybody having a problem shutting down while using Kubuntu, or Xubuntu live cd (no install) :??
[06:59] <altprsona> kubuntu 5.1 cant get nvidia-config = command not found. where do i start fixing that?
[06:59] <foodcoman> TuxTech: The only problem I had with Live, is locking the screen and not knowing the password.
[06:59] <davidhouse> hi guys. just installed dapper, emacs isn't working. starting it from the terminal gives the error "No fonts match `MonospaceXcursor.theme: kubuntu'".
[07:00] <davidhouse> any ideas?
[07:00] <foodcoman> TuxTech: Other than that it has been completely solid.
[07:00] <poing_> Hi there, I have been upgrading from breezy to dapper. How do I check it really worked?
[07:00] <nzt> will search by myself see U enjoy on da new rc
[07:01] <TuxTech> thanks food...xubuntu mainly....locks up during shutdown....although i have to add that this was a beta version i was trying...still at work and hve not tried 6.06 final...ty
[07:01] <foodcoman> TuxTech: havent load xub.... yet....Sorry
[07:01] <TuxTech> says "system will now halt" stays there and wont shut down
[07:02] <TuxTech> np food...thx :)
[07:06] <gurumeditationer> I can't download the .torrent files from www.kubuntu.org from UK, europe or US, is there a mirror?
[07:08] <mikedep333> hey guys, I installed ubuntu dapper and then installed kubutu-desktop
[07:08] <mikedep333> but my volume control (a simple knob on a ps/2 keyboard) doesn't work in KDE
[07:08] <mikedep333> it does in gnome
[07:08] <mikedep333> any advice?
[07:08] <dontm> h3sp4wn: are you a ubuntu developer?
[07:09] <dontm> er AN ubuntu developer heh
[07:09] <dontm> according to !ask u should always use proper grammar when asking a question
[07:10] <seth> mikedep333, SystemSettings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Layout
[07:10] <seth> mikedep333, if your model is there, you can select it and things will work. Otherwise you'd need to do it manually
[07:10] <davidhouse> dontm: fwiw, it's "a ubuntu developer". the reason is that you pronounce it you-buntu, so it doesn't begin with a vowel _sound_.
[07:11] <Bazzi> isnt it pronounced ubuntu not you-buntu?
[07:11] <Bazzi> I dont recall Africans to have a you-u
[07:11] <mikedep333> awesome, it is there (HP SK-2505 internet keyboard)
[07:12] <mikedep333> seth: thanks alot
[07:12] <dontm> davidhouse: no, it's the fact that it precedes a vowel, not necessarily a vowel sound
[07:12] <mikedep333> (and the volume works)
[07:12] <davidhouse> hmm... i suppose you could pronounce it that way. never though about that.
[07:12] <sampan> does anyone know if i apt-upgrade from breezy to dapper if SKIM will be installed automatically? (it is not presently installed with breezy)
[07:12] <dontm> davidhouse: consult Chicago Manual of Style via google
[07:12] <davidhouse> dontm, i don't think it is. for example, you say "half an hour", even though that doesn't begin with a vowel.
[07:13] <seth> mikedep333, cheers
[07:13] <seth> sampan, SKIM is a part of kubuntu-desktop
[07:13] <Flosoft> is kubuntu.org down?
[07:13] <seth> sampan, as long as you have kubuntu-desktop installed (which you should for a proper dist-upgrade), you'll get SKIM
[07:13] <sampan> seth, so the upgrade will automatically add it, then?!
[07:14] <sampan> thanks :D  that's exactly what i wanted to hear!
[07:14] <seth> Flosoft, just very slow. It's being hammered due to release :)
[07:14] <Flosoft> ok
[07:14] <dontm> are you an ubuntu developer? is correct either way
[07:14] <dontm> even if it was by sound heh
[07:14] <dontm> so if it is by sound
[07:14] <sampan> errr, i should have said your name in that -- thanks seth!  that's what i wanted to hear
[07:14] <seth> dontm, I always pronounce it oo-boon-too anyways ;)
[07:14] <dontm> it's still "an ubuntu..."
[07:14] <klerfayt> http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9812/snapshot25do.png - sun java installation is stuck; any ideas?
[07:14] <seth> sampan, no worires
[07:14] <seth> worries
[07:14] <dontm> no matter what, it's "an ubuntu" heh
[07:15] <seth> klerfayt, it requires you to hit the OK button
[07:15] <seth> klerfayt, you can see it there in your screenshot
[07:15] <klerfayt> seth: I hit "enter" and nothing happens
[07:15] <Seantater_> anyone here doing a dist-upgrade?
[07:15] <seth> klerfayt, you might try using Tab to select it
[07:15] <dontm> according to chicago manual of style, in formal writing it's by letter, in informal speech it's by sound
[07:15] <dontm> however, most modern writing manuals have transitioned to "all by sound"
[07:15] <klerfayt> seth: still nothing
[07:15] <seth> Grammar police... #kubuntu-offtopic, please ;)
[07:15] <davidhouse> dontm, where does the CMS say that?
[07:16] <dontm> davidhouse: i am consulting my brother who hold a degree in English =-p
[07:16] <dontm> he is quoting the CMS
[07:16] <dontm> er holds a degree rather heh
[07:17] <dontm> we are looking the heath handbook now, please hold
[07:17] <Bazzi> dude, relax ;)
[07:17] <davidhouse> dontm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%2C_an#An
[07:17] <Bazzi> it's not that English grammar is valued a lot anyway ;)
[07:17] <davidhouse> wikipedia > CMS for being current.
[07:18] <paperangel> i need some help
[07:18] <seth> hang on klerfayt, let me check with the guy who wrote Adept
[07:18] <paperangel> how do i install a Verizon PC5740
[07:18] <klerfayt> seth: too late I quitted adept
[07:18] <seth> klerfayt, ok
[07:18] <seth> install java via CLI
[07:19] <seth> then resume Adept
[07:19] <dontm> davidhouse: i take it u dont read digg.com
[07:19] <seth> imo
[07:19] <davidhouse> dontm, no, why?
[07:19] <h3sp4wn> dontm: Not a ubuntu developer (Just used linux for quite a long time only been using debian based stuff for maybe six months)
[07:19] <seth> dontm, davidhouse... please take the grammar discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic -- thank you
[07:19] <dontm> davidhouse: just yesterday there was an aritcle about a judge who used wiki as a source in the apple case and said and i quote "this is a practice that earns students across the nation a F"
[07:19] <dontm> heh
[07:20] <klerfayt> seth:  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:20] <seth> klerfayt, an adept process is probably still running
[07:20] <seth> klerfayt, sudo killall adept-updater
[07:20] <sorush20> hi guys
[07:21] <johannes> What can I do about the error "C compiler cannot create executables"?
[07:21] <klerfayt> seth: hmm sudo apt-get update gives me: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:22] <seth> klerfayt, yep
[07:22] <seth> klerfayt, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:22] <jarlath> Is it possible to install a deb without messing without sources?
[07:22] <davidhouse> dontm, well, i just think you'd sound very odd indeed saying "an United", etc. anyway, this is OT as seth pointed out. </rant> :)
[07:22] <seth> thanks ;)
[07:23] <seth> any day but release day
[07:23] <seth> hehe
[07:23] <dontm> davidhouse: dont piss off the ops, either PM me or join #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:23] <dr_willis> jarlath: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb    (IF you got all teh dependencies  set up)
[07:23] <jarlath> Thanks dr_willis
[07:23] <dontm> davidhouse: check ur msgs, i sent you what scott foresman says (both right)
[07:23] <sorush20> hi guys according to my adept there are 1700 packages that need to upgrade.. is there any way that I can get adept to upgrade 10 at a time to avoid corruption and errors.. becuase this have happend to me before?
[07:23] <robin_> is kubuntu more popular than ubuntu, or does ubuntu have bigger servers running their site :)
[07:23] <davidhouse> dontm, check your own.
[07:24] <dontm> davidhouse: heh ok yeah this is stupid
[07:24] <dontm> lol
[07:24] <davidhouse> hehe
[07:24] <dontm> man this dapper upgrade is taking forever
[07:24] <dr_willis> robin_ they are basicially identical. :P just flipsides of the same coin. I normally install ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop first thing
[07:24] <dontm> hopefully that's a good thing
[07:24] <dontm> im getting 200KBps too
[07:24] <Sweet_kate> hey guys can i gently suggest me a shoutcast radio winamp-like player?
[07:25] <evil-doer> ive got about 5 mins to go
[07:25] <davidhouse> starting it from the terminal gives the error "No fonts match `MonospaceXcursor.theme: kubuntu'".
[07:25] <dontm> davidhouse: did u run install kubuntu-desktop after dist-upgrade?
[07:25] <dontm> davidhouse: and no X server problems?
[07:25] <davidhouse> no X server problems.
[07:25] <dontm> very cool
[07:25] <dontm> ok well ill have to finish this after work, im late now, wow im a nerd lol
[07:25] <dontm> see ya all
[07:26] <robin_> dr_willis: I meant the internet server :), kubuntu.org is slower than ubuntu.org :D
[07:26] <dontm> being late for work cuz of dapper wow lol
[07:26] <dr_willis> robin_ ahh. :P never noticed.
[07:26] <mikedep333> using ubuntu dapper and running kde, is there a KDE way to install debs by selecting them in konqueror?
[07:27] <sorush20> does a desktop computer need acpic?
[07:27] <nico8481> is it possible to export you kmail mailbox to some file for further importation (after system reinstallation for example)?
[07:27] <mikedep333> I know about using gdebi-gtk to open them
[07:27] <robin_> anyone already running amarok 1.4 on dapper ?
[07:28] <jrk29> Did someone stop being able to see videos with w32 codecs with xine in dapper?
[07:28] <tsdgeos> me
[07:28] <jrk29> Or was it only me? :-)
[07:30] <pipitas> Kubuntu suxxx when it comes to printing... Someon totally managed to spoil it altogether when it comes to using the new CUPS-1.2.0 features. It doesnt even print to a CUPS-1.1.x server that shares its printers!!! (I assume Kubuntu inherited most of the suckiness from Ubuntu or even Debian default configs, but for users this still sucks heavily...)   :-|
[07:33] <Hard_Wired> Does anyone know where to download print drivers from for unlisted models?
[07:34] <Seantater_> Hard_Wired: nope-- I'm not sure you can
[07:34] <pppoe_dude> Hard_Wired: what kind of printer?
[07:35] <Flosoft> Riddell: Can you check your PM?
[07:35] <klerfayt> guess I was wrong that I need "java sun" to get google video play in konqueror (make the black arrow in controls to show video zoom levels)
[07:36] <davidhouse> anyone got any ideas about my emacs problem?
[07:36] <seth> klerfayt, nope, that's Flash
[07:36] <davidhouse> starting it from the terminal gives the error "No fonts match `MonospaceXcursor.theme: kubuntu'".
[07:36] <seth> davidhouse, uh oh, 'tis a bug. Let me track down where to change that
[07:37] <seth> there should be a new line between Monospace and Xcursor.theme
[07:37] <davidhouse> aha
[07:37] <klerfayt> seth: I got flash installed manually and videos play, but that "black arrow" in video contols doesn't show me the list of zoom levels
[07:37] <davidhouse> seth, occurs with both the emacs21 and emacs21-gtk-snapshot packages. doesn't occur with the emacs-nox ones though.
[07:37] <macd> is there any reason kcontrol and KDE system settings would not show the same settings...
[07:37] <Flosoft> can someone add my mirror to the Kubuntu Website? I updated the files in a sec..
[07:38] <seth> Flosoft, what's the deb URL?
[07:38] <Flosoft> seth: Are you an Kubuntu Admin?
[07:38] <Flosoft> normally I submit the info to ridell no?
[07:39] <seth> Flosoft, yeah, Riddell would be fine
[07:39] <bachstudies> dapper rocks!
[07:39] <Flosoft> but he isn't here here ?
[07:39] <Flosoft> he doesn't awnser
[07:42] <brandon_> Riddell's got kde 3.5.3 out today it seems
[07:45] <evil-doer> its all upgraded and seems to have booted fine
[07:46] <evil-doer> why cant suse be this easy
[07:46] <davidhouse> evil-doer: +1 on that. :)
[07:46] <Phleagor> suse sucks
[07:46] <evil-doer> i have suse on my laptop and i havent tried upgrading yet because theres about 1000 items its complaining about
[07:47] <evil-doer> youd think 10.0 to 10.1 wouldnt be such a hassle
[07:47] <evil-doer> and i hardly installed that much on top of default :|
[07:48] <Phleagor> evil-doer: please don't do it
[07:48] <Phleagor> nothing will work after the update
[07:48] <evil-doer> seriously?
[07:48] <Kronoz> evil-doer, 10.1 is very different
[07:48] <Phleagor> i had 8.2 as my first distri
[07:48] <evil-doer> sigh
[07:48] <Phleagor> and i updated it
[07:48] <Phleagor> nothing worked
[07:48] <Phleagor> i reinstalled it
[07:48] <Phleagor> and updated again
[07:48] <Phleagor> nothing worked
[07:48] <Phleagor> ...
[07:48] <andreasc89> dapper drake is out
[07:49] <Kronoz> it wants to have a seperate /home + new package manager rug/zmd thing + more gnome orientated
[07:51] <dergringo> how do I activate 3d acceleration? I got an ati mobility radeon m300.
[07:52] <evil-doer> i wanna put kubuntu on my laptop now. but im not sure how id do that. its dual booting windows/suse at the moment
[07:53] <davidhouse> evil-doer: remove the suse partition. :)
[07:53] <thompa> you will have to shrink the windows partition, or install on  suse
[07:53] <evil-doer> what about the boot loader etc
[07:53] <h3sp4wn> evil-doer: Just remove the windows partition suse will be fine
[07:53] <sampan> are the servers being hammered by people downloading/upgrading?  kinda wanting to upgrade, but don't want the download to take 4 days if the servers are being beaten into submission ;)
[07:55] <seth> sampan, I got 180KB doing the KDE 3.5.2 -> 3.5.3 dance
[07:55] <thompa> sampan: mines downlaoding fine
[07:56] <thompa> sampan:http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/dapper/kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[07:56] <thompa> 23 minutes for complete download
[07:56] <sampan> thanks seth and thompa :)  might have to take the plunge with the dist-upgrade thing instead of the iso
[07:57] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody can tell me a stopper program?
[07:57] <MetaMorfoziS> simple start stop that i need
[07:57] <thompa> the distrowatch links are too slow right now
[07:58] <seth> MetaMorfoziS, what are you wanting to stop?
[07:58] <seth> MetaMorfoziS, you want to shutdown the computer?
[07:58] <MetaMorfoziS> nono
[07:58] <MetaMorfoziS> simple start stop
[07:58] <MetaMorfoziS> stopwatch
[07:58] <MetaMorfoziS> not kshutdown
[07:58] <seth> oh
[07:58] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[07:58] <seth> stopwatch
[07:58] <seth> :)
[07:59] <MetaMorfoziS> in#ubuntu sb advised teatimer
[07:59] <MetaMorfoziS> i find it... but if you can better
[07:59] <MetaMorfoziS> ...
[07:59] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[07:59] <Kronoz> sleep 30; echo 30 seconds! :p
[08:00] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[08:00] <MetaMorfoziS> put a turtle in the window for a half hour, and when you get it back it's usually 30minutes!:D
[08:00] <pipitas> Riddell: ping
[08:00] <Kronoz> MetaMorfoziS, :| lol
[08:01] <seth> KArm, maybe, MetaMorfoziS ? but if you want simple simple, teatimer is probably it
[08:01] <foodcoman> Kronoz: will be your stopwatch.
[08:01] <pipitas> Riddell: Who's the CUPS packager for K/Ubuntu? Is s/he here?
[08:02] <Kronoz> foodcoman, whats thay?
[08:02] <Kronoz> s/thay/that
[08:03] <chakie> a watch...
[08:03] <foodcoman> Kronoz: MetaMorfoziS looking for stopwatch.  You nick sounds like Chronos almost.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronos
[08:03] <Flosoft> hey ... who has access to update the Kubuntu Website? Can you PM me please? I got parts of my mirrors setup
[08:03] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[08:04] <Kronoz> foodcoman, oh i see lol
[08:04] <foodcoman> Kronoz: Sorry, I am wired abit different than most.
[08:06] <thompa> lame ubuntu review on tux machines
[08:07] <thompa> the guys got like 30 hdas he has mounted, totally un-user-normal
[08:09] <foodcoman> http://unapark6.com/?p=1235
[08:10] <saj> hi guys, gow do i get KDE on my gnome dapper?
[08:10] <Flosoft> Riddell: are you there?
[08:10] <jpatrick> Flosoft: i think he's gone to the pub
[08:11] <macd> saj, 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-dekstop'
[08:11] <Flosoft> ok ..
[08:11] <macd> yes today is a day to celelbrate :)
[08:11] <Flosoft> jpatrick: Do you have access to the Kubuntu Website?
[08:11] <Flosoft> to add mirrors?
[08:11] <jpatrick> No
[08:11] <Flosoft> damn
[08:11] <Flosoft> who else has?
[08:11] <jpatrick> afaik him
[08:11] <Flosoft> no one else?
[08:12] <jpatrick> Not that I know of
[08:12] <saj> macd: thnx buddy
[08:12] <jpatrick> Flosoft: site times-out :(
[08:12] <macd> saj: it will take a while so grab a beer and wait :)
[08:12] <robin_> f
[08:12] <robin_> test
[08:12] <macd> jpatrick: oh yeah servers getting hammered
[08:13] <saj> macd: :( what will it update? will it just install KDE or does it install any thing else aswell?
[08:13] <macd> it will install the kubuntu desktop, meaning kde and all of its programs.
[08:15] <soon> Hi there folks ... Im having trouble with Nvidia drivers .. anyone care to help out? ... I've adept-installed: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-amd64-generic.nividia-legacy and nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-settings and nvidia-kernel-common (I have a Nvidia Geforce 6600 card)
[08:15] <saj> macd: kk thnx alot for the help, i gtg now much:D :P so ALLAH Hafiz (GOD TAKE CAE OF YOU)
[08:15] <soon> Now when I try glxgears I get: Error: Could not open /dev/nvidiactl because the permissions are too resticitive.
[08:16] <soon> (I can reboot and get X running though)
[08:23] <yoba> hello
[08:23] <dickhall_> anyone here use bzr-NG?
[08:23] <yoba> no
[08:23] <dickhall_> yoba: thanks for answering for the group ;)
[08:24] <robotgeek> dickhall_: its very unlikely that anyone here will know about bazaar
[08:24] <yoba> your welcome
[08:24] <dickhall_> well, there's 272 people here, which is much more than #kubuntu-devel, and no one's answering over there
[08:25] <JavaGeek> congratulations on Dapper release, btw
[08:25] <dickhall_> and it's a kubuntu/kde project I'm asking about, so it seems on-topic
[08:25] <robotgeek> dickhall_: yeah, its not offtopic, i'm just suggesting that it might be better to ask someone there :)
[08:25] <dickhall_> I did ask someone there, and there's no response ;)
[08:26] <DustyDingo> hi
[08:26] <yoba> hi
[08:26] <iNiku> whoa, the level of traffic in #ubuntu is giving me a headache
[08:26] <JavaGeek> i avoid those channels like the plague :)
[08:27] <macd> we should hope the traffic in #kubuntu should be so high.....
[08:28] <JavaGeek> well, kubuntu doesn't require as much help as ubuntu
[08:29] <NthDegree> lol
[08:29] <macd> I woulndt say that, Id say is adoption rate isnt as high
[08:29] <NthDegree> GNOME is easier than KDE, but KDE has more customisability
[08:29] <laia> hi all
[08:30] <macd> has anyone noticed that kcontrol and kde system settings dont show the same settings? as in mismatched settings.
[08:30] <NthDegree> I use both ubuntu and kubuntu
[08:30] <laia> i try to burning a cd on kubuntu on powerpc g3 new world and i dont get success
[08:30] <JavaGeek> well, when I have a trouble with kubuntu, I usually check in Ubuntu's Forum first
[08:30] <laia> anyone can help me now?
[08:31] <NthDegree> laia: you using k3b as your software
[08:31] <macd> laia: more information needed, as in what errors are you getting, and what are you using to burn with?
[08:31] <JavaGeek> usually the problem is not kde/gnome related
[08:31] <dickhall_> and what's your favourite colour?
[08:31] <macd> kde bule of course :P
[08:31] <macd> blue*
[08:31] <NthDegree> laia: give us all the information relation to the problem
[08:31] <NthDegree> in*
[08:31] <jorgp> heh, that is normal traffic for #gentoo
[08:32] <NthDegree> gentoo was well annoying
[08:32] <dickhall_> with gentoo, you need the help ;)
[08:32] <NthDegree> kde won't compile
[08:32] <NthDegree> on gentoo lol
[08:32] <macd> yes it was in thier stable repos :P
[08:32] <NthDegree> X wouldn't work on FreeBSD
[08:32] <JavaGeek> before kubuntu I was using gentoo on a celeron 600MHz laptop. upgrading anything took *days*
[08:33] <jorgp> kde compiles fine for me on gentoo
[08:33] <NthDegree> ubuntu and kubuntu have been the best OSes for me
[08:33] <NthDegree> I even compile on them
[08:33] <macd> well of course it compiles everything :P, and theres a argument to be said for that extra thousandth of a second improvement in speed
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[08:33] <laia> I have a scisi CDD 3600 and i start to use k3b. The errors are: the Burning Device is showed on k3b!
[08:34] <dickhall_> gentoo was the first linux I dove into, and it was good, kinda forced me to learn a bunch of stuff
[08:34] <laia> Sorry! The Device is NOT showed
[08:34] <macd> laia: that doesnt sound like a(n) error that sounds like its informing you the burner was found...
[08:34] <macd> ohh, heh
[08:34] <NthDegree> laia: that means k3b probably hates your burner
[08:34] <NthDegree> or you have no CD in it
[08:34] <macd> laia, try this: alt+f2  then type  'kdesu k3b'
[08:34] <macd> I bet k3b setup was never run...
[08:34] <jorgp> the thing with gentoo is its high maintenance, (k)ubuntu is not
[08:35] <JavaGeek> laia: what OS are you using on that powerpc?
[08:35] <NthDegree> jorgp: nothing compared to OpenBSD
[08:35] <laia> JavaGeek: Kubuntu
[08:35] <jorgp> NthDegree: never run that distro, I've got freebsd running on a server though
[08:36] <jorgp> but im getting ready to change it over to ubuntu
[08:36] <NthDegree> jorgp: OpenBSD is great if you use packages
[08:36] <NthDegree> but nothing else except the packages work
[08:36] <NthDegree> most of the ports suck on amd64
[08:37] <jorgp> i dont have an amd64 yet, so to date I have been spared all the amd64 pain
[08:37] <NthDegree> jorgp: ubuntu amd64 is great
[08:37] <gil> i have a toshiba m40x....i cant for the life of me get the Card reader to pick up an inserted card
[08:37] <NthDegree> gentoo amd64 and openbsd amd64 suck ass
[08:37] <gil> who can help with this
[08:38] <NthDegree> i hope fedora amd64 works tho
[08:38] <NthDegree> i need a high security linux to contain windows
[08:38] <NthDegree> since I don't trust windows
[08:39] <macd> NthDegree: might I recommnd solaris and utilizing solaris zones....
[08:39] <h3sp4wn> NthDegree: Don't run it then
[08:39] <jorgp> NthDegree: last fedora I used was fc2, which I dont care for rpm based distros, so I wont use them again
[08:39] <macd> Solaris + Xen = sweetness
[08:39] <h3sp4wn> You can use trusted solaris if you are really paranoid
[08:39] <gil> has anyone gotten the 6in1 built in card reader to work in dapper?
[08:39] <NthDegree> jorgp:  well fedora has excellent security, SElinux, PIE and RSBAC I think
[08:40] <laia> macd: I start k3b with root, but the device donsent apear!
[08:40] <macd> laia: have you ru k3b setup?
[08:40] <NthDegree> gil:  I have a 9 in 1 and it works
[08:40] <jorgp> NthDegree: so does ubuntu
[08:40] <laia> macd: no! How I try this?
[08:40] <macd> SElinux secure? hah! anything the NSA produced...
[08:40] <gil> NthDegree:is it a built in laptop reader
[08:41] <NthDegree> gil: mine is a built-in reader (not a laptop though)
[08:41] <NthDegree> jorgp: does it? that's weird where is the SElinux settings etc.
[08:41] <gil> NthDegree:how did you set it up
[08:41] <JavaGeek> macd: as long as there's a source to it, i don't see why not
[08:41] <NthDegree> gil:  I didn't it just works
[08:42] <macd> JavaGeek: your going ot audit all that code :P
[08:42] <gil> ol
[08:42] <gil> *ok
[08:42] <NthDegree> macd:  if there was a backdoor it would have been spotted
[08:42] <macd> laia: its in one of k3b's menus,
[08:43] <macd> NthDegree: I guess you dont remember the backdoor in the ATT C compiler that existed for 9 years :P
[08:43] <JavaGeek> macd: sure, why not :)
[08:43] <macd> just because its heavily used doesnt mena anyone actualy looks...
[08:44] <laia> root@lbmsala4c:/home/laia# cdrecord -scanbus
[08:44] <laia> Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a01 (powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Joerg Schilling
[08:44] <laia> (...)
[08:44] <laia> cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.12-10-powerpc
[08:44] <laia> cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
[08:44] <JavaGeek> macd: i read somewhere why it was in NSA's best interest to be honest about these things
[08:44] <laia> (...)
[08:44] <laia> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[08:44] <laia> cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'.
[08:44] <laia> cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
[08:44] <laia> cdrecord:
[08:44] <laia> cdrecord: For more information, install the cdrtools-doc
[08:44] <laia> cdrecord: package and read /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup .
[08:44] <laia> root@lbmsala4c:/home/laia#
[08:44] <macd> I dont think anything honest is in the NSA's best intrest
[08:45] <JavaGeek> macd: like, if someone *ever* found something hidden, it would discredit *all* of NSA's work
[08:45] <JavaGeek> or something like that
[08:46] <macd> JavaGeek: you think theyre concenred with that after the information they provided the govt with i Iraq?
[08:46] <rdale> I've got stuck upgrading from breezy to dapper. I had to interrupt adept because I was using too much bandwidth at work, and when I restarted it later it seems to have screwed up my installation.
[08:46] <macd> lol, if they dont care what people think about that, they surely dont care about some code...
[08:46] <macd> but maybee this is best suited for #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:47] <rdale> what commands do I have to give 'apt-get' to force it to upgrade my machine to dapper?
[08:48] <macd> rdale: sudo update-manager -f works well.
[08:48] <Snake[Away] > Wow 1000 people in #ubuntu
[08:48] <Snake[Away] > crazy.
[08:48] <rdale> ok, thanks I'll try that
[08:49] <conn> hi, is it possible to rename partition numbers? e.g., rename hda7 to hda2 (providing hda2 doesn't already exist)?
[08:49] <Snake> Happy dapper day all
[08:50] <jorgp> conn: why?
[08:50] <mrfishhat> happy dapper day snake
[08:50] <Snake> :)
[08:50] <mrfishhat> today i shall be burning install disks for a few hours
[08:50] <mrfishhat> then an install party at the lug
[08:50] <Snake> mrfishhat: I got shipits on the way, im gonna pass them out at the library
[08:50] <conn> jorgp: because the livecd installer has renamed my partition from hda3 to hda4, 5, and 6 (from reinstalls)
[08:51] <mrfishhat> i have shipits to
[08:51] <mrfishhat> but the lug members wont wait
[08:51] <Snake> hehe
[08:51] <h3sp4wn> mrfishhat: Why not just mirror the archive and netboot all the installations
[08:51] <mrfishhat> the shipits are for people at the mall
[08:52] <mrfishhat> h3sp4wn: the lug meets at a pizza joint
[08:52] <gilster> so anyone want to help me with built in card reader on a toshiba m40
[08:52] <h3sp4wn> mrfishhat: And you don't have switches / wireless ?
[08:52] <mrfishhat> h3sp4wn: true
[08:53] <mrfishhat> h3sp4wn: but they prefer it this way
[08:55] <gilster> please anyone....card reader setup? toshiba m40x
[08:57] <mrfishhat> it doesnt just work?
[08:57] <mrfishhat> my card reader works fine when you just plug it in
[08:59] <dergringo> where do I find the package "gnome-window-decorator" ?
[08:59] <SkrotFFS> dergringo: For Compiz/XGl?
[09:00] <heinkel_111> hi! anybody knows where to find info about troubleshooting local printer? It is "stopped" and I have problem getting it to "start"
[09:00] <SkrotFFS> In that case it's called "compiz-gnome"
[09:01] <Hard_Wired> What does it mean when a USB pen drive is listed in lsusb but not mounted?
[09:01] <dergringo> SkrotFFS: thank you. Do you know what compiz-"vanilla" is?
[09:01] <laia> NthDegree: I guess that I found the problem! in my fstab, the burning device was: /dev/scd0 /media/crom1 ... If i try mount /media/cdrom1, I get a message: the device scd0 dosent exist
[09:02] <Seantater_> Hard_Wired: that you need to mount it :-P
[09:02] <SkrotFFS> dergringo: No idea
[09:02] <Hard_Wired> Kubuntu automounts everything else
[09:02] <laia> NthDegree: any clue?!
[09:02] <Hard_Wired> and I've tried doing it through the FSTAb file but it didn't work
[09:02] <Seantater_> Hard_Wired: Maybe it's been formatted ntfs or something
[09:03] <Hard_Wired> I have no way of knowing
[09:03] <Seantater_> Hard_Wired: what /dev is it?
[09:03] <Hard_Wired> mark@ubuntu:~$ lsusb
[09:03] <Hard_Wired> Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0781:1234 SanDisk Corp.
[09:04] <Hard_Wired> I've tried mounting it on sda1 in FSTAB but it didn't see it
[09:04] <Seantater_> Hard_Wired: okay -- try this: mkdir /media/penDrive ; mount -t auto /dev/sdd /media/penDrive
[09:05] <Hard_Wired> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/penDrive': File exists
[09:05] <Hard_Wired> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:05] <Hard_Wired> mark@ubuntu:~$
[09:05] <uwo> hi all - does anyone know how i could get sys tray into 2 rows on normal size - have a feeling it was that way before upgrade to kde 3.5.3 (could be sth else, but it is this time) - it now goes into 2 rows only on large
[09:06] <JavaGeek> pmount /dev/sd<whatever letter corresponds to the drive>1
[09:06] <Hard_Wired> Error: device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[09:06] <Seantater_> Hard_Wired: okay -- how about mount -t vfat /dev/sdd1 /media/penDrive
[09:07] <JavaGeek> Hard_Wired: dmesg | grep SanDisk
[09:07] <DustyDingo> hm, is there a non graphical (no kde) installation for kubuntu?
[09:07] <Seantater_> DustyDingo: Sure -- server install
[09:07] <DustyDingo> i mean, there is not such an item, when i run the install cd nd grub appears
[09:08] <Hard_Wired> mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[09:08] <Seantater_> DustyDingo: It's a specific CD from the ubuntu download page
[09:08] <Hard_Wired> the grep command just returns me to the prompt
[09:08] <Seantater_> DustyDingo: when you take away gnome/kde, ubuntu/kubuntu are exactly alike -- so there is only one 'server install' cd
[09:08] <DustyDingo> well, i am trying to install since halph an hour
[09:09] <JavaGeek> Hard_Wired: dmesg | grep usb
[09:09] <DustyDingo> and even gentoo was easier, i simply don't get along eith it ;)
[09:09] <Hard_Wired> [4294673.973000]  usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
[09:09] <Hard_Wired> [4294673.974000]  usbcore: registered new driver hub
[09:09] <Hard_Wired> [4294960.899000]  usb 3-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
[09:10] <Hard_Wired> [4295351.802000]  usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2
[09:10] <Hard_Wired> [4295352.069000]  drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x043D pid 0x0078
[09:10] <Hard_Wired> [4295352.069000]  usbcore: registered new driver usblp
[09:10] <Hard_Wired> [4295352.069000]  drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver
[09:10] <Hard_Wired> [4300459.949000]  usb 3-5: USB disconnect, address 2
[09:10] <Hard_Wired> [4301442.905000]  usb 3-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[09:10] <Hard_Wired> You asked for it!
[09:10] <serenity> hiho
[09:10] <Seantater_> !paste
[09:10] <DustyDingo> Seantater_: hm, so with this cd, which i have now, i can only choos the graphical installation?
[09:10] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[09:10] <Hard_Wired> didn't know about that site - thanks!
[09:10] <Seantater_> DustyDingo: I think you can choose server at bootup -- but you again may not -- I would go ahead and download the server cd.
[09:11] <JavaGeek> Hard_Wired: i don't think your pen is being recognized
[09:11] <Seantater_> DustyDingo: It's here --> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso
[09:11] <serenity> i want to help kubuntu, but how? I'm not good in coding and beta-testing is nothing really for me
[09:11] <Hard_Wired> no kidding
[09:11] <Seantater_> serenity: how about spreading the word about ubuntu
[09:12] <serenity> Seantater: i do this all the time
[09:12] <Seantater_> serenity: then keep doing that
[09:12] <serenity> Seantater: but i want to do more
[09:12] <Seantater_> serenity: Python is not hrad to learn if you put your mind to it
[09:12] <JavaGeek> serenity: get some cd's and distribute them to your friends and family
[09:12] <JavaGeek> serenity: or to the nearest public library
[09:13] <Jacci> Is it possible to "lock" the disks that contain windows files so that i can't mess things up by mistake?
[09:13] <serenity> i started with python, but don't have an idea what to code. It's easier to learn for me with a concrete project
[09:13] <DustyDingo> Seantater_: well, when you are not good at coding at all, also python won't help him
[09:14] <Snake> Python <3
[09:14] <Snake> PHP = <3 <3 <3
[09:14] <charlotte> hey im new to kubuntu and i cant get it to recognise my sound card
[09:14] <serenity> DustyDingo: not good, because i begun just 2 weeks ago
[09:14] <Seantater_> what is <3?
[09:14] <Hard_Wired> you don't have write access to NTFS partitions by default
[09:14] <Snake> Seantater_: a heart (as in love)
[09:14] <Hard_Wired> should be no need to lock them
[09:16] <JavaGeek> Java = <3 ^ 8
[09:16] <Jacci> thanks, that's just what i needed to know
[09:16] <Snake> ew java...
[09:16] <Snake> JavaGeek: in my experience, its slow and bulgy
[09:17] <serenity> what can be an interesting programm to begin with?
[09:17] <JavaGeek> Snake: no much experience then :)
[09:17] <uwo> can nobody tell me if it is possible to set the number of rows for sys tray (other than resizing the panel)?
[09:17] <Snake> JavaGeek: Heh, well its the only thing that crashed my firefox and laggs my PC to a crawl (mainly frostwire)
[09:17] <ubuntu_> greetings everybody
[09:18] <JavaGeek> Snake: currently, or before dapper?
[09:18] <JavaGeek> greetings, ubuntu_
[09:18] <ubuntu_> anybody can help me? the uninstaller fails to start, the following output ist produced on the console: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/751791
[09:18] <Snake> JavaGeek: currently (dapper)
[09:18] <Dakkar> :D
[09:18] <Dakky> better than ubuntu_ :D
[09:19] <JavaGeek> Snake: weird, I have no troubles with java and/or firefox
[09:19] <Snake> :-/
[09:19] <JavaGeek> Snake: are you sure Sun's java is the one installed?
[09:19] <Snake> JavaGeek: yes
[09:19] <JavaGeek> sun-java5-bin?
[09:19] <Snake> JavaGeek: yea
[09:20] <Dakky> hurm :D i didnt mean the UNinstaller but the INstaller *fg*
[09:20] <NthDegree> JavaGeek:  I got blackdown java or w/e it's called and my firefox crashes whenever I try to load java applets
[09:20] <JavaGeek> NthDegree: get sun's java, not some cheap imitation
[09:20] <JavaGeek> :)
[09:21] <NthDegree> JavaGeek:  sun's java has no AMD64 firefox plugin
[09:21] <JavaGeek> ah... I don't even know if they have AMD64 support
[09:21] <NthDegree> blackdown does
[09:21] <NthDegree> but firefox crashes
[09:22] <Dakky> nobody has an idea?
[09:22] <NthDegree> Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition <---- look on synaptic
[09:22] <EvilIdler> Try a 32-bit Firefox and hate yourse3lf in the morning? :P
[09:24] <JavaGeek> mmm... Sun *does* have an AMD64 version
[09:24] <JavaGeek> but I guess they haven't made the (k)ubuntu package yet
[09:25] <EvilIdler> Grab that for now and set your system's Java version to be that
[09:25] <EvilIdler> I'm sure it'll be packaged up soon enough
[09:25] <NthDegree> well if I ever get together the right stuff for packaging then I will
[09:26] <NthDegree> I don't want to clutter up my system though that's the only thing
[09:26] <jorgp> where are the cd covers and cd case artwork located?
[09:27] <DustyDin1o> re
[09:28] <Dakky> is there a way to isntall kubuntu without the ubiquity installer?
[09:28] <Dakky> some ncurses gui
[09:28] <EvilIdler> It doesn't hurt to stick it in /usr/local. It's easy to remove later, since it's generally one directory.
[09:29] <JavaGeek> Dakky: aptitude?
[09:29] <EvilIdler> Ugh, Amarok isn't playing nice with Samba shares
[09:29] <Dakky> hurm JavaGeek :D ubiquity is the complete ubuntu isntaller :D
[09:29] <Dakky> i failed to isntall ubuntu itself :D
[09:30] <JavaGeek> oh :)
[09:30] <JavaGeek> i had kubuntu installed before, just upgraded
[09:30] <Dakky> just started the live cd, did some xserver hacking and now the installer denies service
[09:30] <DustyDin1o> god damn, doesn't kubuntu 6.06 features a 2.6.16 kernel?!?!?
[09:30] <DustyDin1o> cause i thought so
[09:30] <foodcoman> Anyone know why I get this error on my laptop CDROM.  Trying to enable DMA. http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/751965
[09:31] <JavaGeek> oh, yeah.. I need to find out what happened to mmc_block kernel module on dapper
[09:31] <DustyDin1o> 2.6.15 won't run on a thinkpad t60 at all
[09:33] <Blake7984> how would i go about doing a proper fresh installation using sata hardware raid....its detecting my drives as 2 seperate drives rather than a single mirrored array
[09:34] <macd> Blake7984: well hardware raid is transparent to software, so something must be setup properly
[09:34] <macd> must not be*
[09:34] <Blake7984> dont know...worked fine in windows earlier today...just checked the bios raid utility and it says its a healthy mirrored array still
[09:34] <Blake7984> its detecting it as 2 scsi drives...sda and sdb
[09:34] <macd> intersting, there are some options with LVM you can look into
[09:34] <Blake7984> i tried deleting a partition on sda and committing, then checking sdb...it still existed on sdb
[09:35] <macd> I dont do much with sata raid unfourtunatly just real scsi
[09:35] <Blake7984> i definitely am confused here...ive never seen any OS or anything recognize hardware raid as anything other than a single drive
[09:35] <macd> Blake7984: I'd bet theres a option you can pass to the installer
[09:36] <macd> surfed the forums yet?
[09:36] <Blake7984> i tried some searching for "raid" earlier but got nothing useful yet, about to look more now
[09:36] <macd> yeah, Im just hittig them now
[09:37] <Blake7984> im wondering if i should be using the livecd like i have here, or if i should have gotten that alternate installer
[09:37] <macd> the alternate installer just contains some extra stuff, but I dont think it would make the difference to detect raid..
[09:37] <Blake7984> at least ubuntuforums.org seems to work now...earlier it was taking 30-45 secs to load a page, if it loaded at all
[09:38] <macd> yeah #ubuntu has 1000 users in it
[09:38] <Blake7984> im also not sure how its detecting the drives...as if its bypassing the raid....surprising
[09:38] <macd> dapper went stable so everyones slamming the servers
[09:38] <EvilIdler> I wouldn't call it stable yet, since the kernel still won't boot on my system :/
[09:38] <Blake7984> hehe yep...and im one of them :)
[09:39] <macd> EvilIdler: well thats one out of thousands :P
[09:39] <macd> and we know thinkpads are finicky
[09:39] <chavo> 1 out of thousands == stable
[09:39] <EvilIdler> There are more bug reports than just mine about the problem, though ;)
[09:40] <Blake7984> using nforce4 chipset/raid controller btw
[09:40] <Blake7984> and amd64 version
[09:40] <macd> still a small portion of bugs on some systems can't hold up the release, look at windows :P
[09:40] <EvilIdler> "It builds, we ship it"
[09:41] <EvilIdler> I just wish there would be a kernel released that had, y'know, ATA drivers to detect my harddrives
[09:41] <Blake7984> hmm, reading a post about raid 0 right now....im raid 1...but hopefully it might help
[09:42] <macd> EvilIdler: I believe there are options you can pass to init
[09:42] <EvilIdler> macd: Yes, I've tried all of them. No initrd found, no matter what, as there are no devices at all
[09:45] <Infecto> hello
[09:45] <bibiphoque> hi
[09:45] <Infecto> can some one help me with resuming a laptop from suspend to ram
[09:45] <Infecto> my screen dont wont to wake up
[09:45] <Infecto> and for that
[09:45] <Infecto> /etc/acpi/resume.d/72-acpi-pain.sh: line 23: echo: write error: Exec format error
[09:46] <kubuntu_tester> hello folks
[09:46] <shadow_mil> Where is the startup scripts in kubuntu?
[09:47] <texjoachim> hi!
[09:47] <kubuntu_tester> I have a problem with the last version of kubuntu
[09:47] <texjoachim> why am I unable to mount my cf cards via the usb reader after the update to dapper drake?
[09:47] <Blake7984> guess i'll see if #ubuntu has anyone using sata raid...forums dont seem to have much here
[09:47] <kubuntu_tester> the device name of a disk in "storage media" folder is NULL
[09:47] <kubuntu_tester> how to change it?
[09:49] <kubuntu_tester> nobody can help me?
[09:51] <kubuntu_tester> here a screenshot: http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot8ae.png
[09:54] <kubuntu_tester> the partition is a fat32
[09:54] <shadow_mil> Where is the boot script?
[09:56] <McScruff> hi, installed kubntu, got all my codecs, installed ndiswraper, added "ndiswrapper" so it starts on boot, rebooted and it wont load u
[09:56] <McScruff> *up
[09:58] <iNiku> McScruff: did you configure ndiswrapper?
[09:58] <McScruff> yes
[09:58] <iNiku> McScruff: ndiswrapper -l shows your windows driver?
[09:59] <McScruff> yes
[09:59] <iNiku> which NIC?
[09:59] <McScruff> broadcom :)
[09:59] <moo> kubuntu_tester, try setting al label for /dev/sda2, unmount the volume first and then try sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda2 -n yourdisklabel
[09:59] <iNiku> McScruff: ahh
[09:59] <iNiku> lsmod | grep bcm
[09:59] <McScruff> but i have had it working under ubuntu before
[10:00] <McScruff> i also blacklisted bcm43xx
[10:00] <iNiku> McScruff: breezy?
[10:00] <kubuntu_tester> thanks mooI will try
[10:00] <McScruff> dapper beta
[10:00] <iNiku> hmm
[10:00] <McScruff> oo, i could run a dmesg
[10:00] <iNiku> so you're sure you don't have bcm43xx loaded?
[10:00] <iNiku> lsmod doesn't show it?
[10:00] <load> can I use synaptec to update to dapper rather than using adept without any problems?
[10:00] <McScruff> erm with lsmod it loads alot and i cant see whats at the top of the list
[10:01] <McScruff> im on command line atm
[10:01] <iNiku> McScruff: lsmod | grep bcm
[10:01] <Sho_> Is there a how-to somewhere on how to get back the default Konqueror menu bar?
[10:01] <iNiku> McScruff: does it show anything?
[10:01] <McScruff> iNiku . yes
[10:02] <Infecto> chow to reinstal packages including config files
[10:02] <McScruff> it shows bcm43xx
[10:02] <McScruff> softmac
[10:02] <iNiku> well, that means it's loaded
[10:02] <iNiku> and it shouldn't be
[10:02] <McScruff> ieee80211
[10:02] <iNiku> McScruff: how did you blacklist it?
[10:02] <McScruff> iNiku . opened the blacklist test file and typed in bcm43xx
[10:02] <McScruff> im gonna check for typos
[10:03] <iNiku> test file?
[10:03] <McScruff> whats kde's command line text editer?
[10:03] <McScruff> its not nano :(
[10:04] <iNiku> um, text mode editors have nothing to do with kde... kate is a kde editor
[10:04] <McScruff> wait, i spelt nano wrong
[10:04] <McScruff> damn typos
[10:04] <abloylas> Hi guys! Just got a strange error message after a clean install of kubuntu, trying to run Automatix. Have you seen the following:
[10:04] <iNiku> show me the line you added in the blacklist file
[10:04] <kubuntu_tester> moo: I cant set volume label
[10:04] <kubuntu_tester> :-?
[10:04] <abloylas> or kphotoalbum, adept, and kaffine
[10:04] <EvilIdler> abloylas: There's your error right there - it's Automatix ;)
[10:04] <abloylas> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[10:04] <abloylas>   Major opcode:  144
[10:04] <abloylas>   Minor opcode:  3
[10:04] <abloylas>   Resource id:  0x0
[10:04] <abloylas> Failed to open device
[10:05] <EvilIdler> Automatix will mess with your system in dangerous ways. Avoid.
[10:05] <abloylas> it doesn't seem that way
[10:05] <shadow_mil> How can I add a command for linux to use on bootup?
[10:05] <McScruff> iNiku . i think i found the problem , i put "bcm43xx" but i needed to put "blacklist bcm43xx"
[10:05] <davidhouse> McScruff: you spelt a four-letter word wrong? :)
[10:05] <iNiku> McScruff: indeed
[10:05] <iNiku> McScruff: after that, if you don't want to reboot...
[10:05] <McScruff> davidhouse, yes, hit the p so it said nanp
[10:05] <abloylas> also associated with kphotoalbum, adept, and kaffine
[10:06] <EvilIdler> I tend to just go for naan myself :P
[10:06] <McScruff> iNiku . i rebooted and it still didnt work
[10:06] <iNiku> McScruff: after fixing the blacklist file?
[10:06] <McScruff> yea
[10:06] <iNiku> McScruff: that was a quick reboot
[10:07] <McScruff> no gui to shut down
[10:07] <kubuntu_tester> moo: http://pastebin.com/752044
[10:07] <iNiku> try lsmod | grep bcm again
[10:08] <McScruff> iNiku . nothing is showing now
[10:08] <McScruff> maybe i need a cold boot and not just a reboot?
[10:08] <iNiku> McScruff: okay, lsmod | grep ndis then?
[10:08] <iNiku> McScruff: no, that won't help
[10:08] <McScruff> iNiku . ndiswrapper is there
[10:08] <iNiku> what does ndiswrapper -l tell you?
[10:09] <iNiku> does it say driver installed and hardware present?
[10:09] <McScruff> that my driver and hardware are there
[10:09] <McScruff> yes
[10:09] <iNiku> okay, does iwconfig show any interfaces with wireless extensions?
[10:09] <McScruff> yes, eth1
[10:09] <iNiku> that means ndiswrapper is working, then
[10:10] <iNiku> how are you trying to set up the wireless connection?
[10:10] <McScruff> its my whole system that isnt booting
[10:10] <McScruff> no gui loads
[10:10] <iNiku> ohhhh
[10:10] <iNiku> I thought you meant ndiswrapper wasn't loading up
[10:10] <SkrotFFS> Does kubuntu have a install-gui like ubuntu live-cd does?
[10:11] <aseigo_lsb> yes
[10:11] <McScruff> SkrotFFS, yes
[10:11] <SkrotFFS> Wow, thats neat! Is it the same program?
[10:11] <iNiku> McScruff: how did you "add ndiswrapper so it starts at boot"?
[10:12] <McScruff> iNiku . i added "ndiswrapper" into /etc/modules
[10:13] <hyperactivecrond> Does kubuntu have the livecd installation like ubuntu?
[10:13] <hyperactivecrond> for dapper
[10:13] <McScruff> yes me
[10:13] <SkrotFFS> hyperactivecrond: I just asked. And yes, it apparently does. :)
[10:13] <hyperactivecrond> sorry i just /join'ed SkrotFFS
[10:13] <SkrotFFS> I know =)
[10:13] <McScruff> iNiku, the only other things i did wasdownload codecs :S
[10:14] <iNiku> McScruff: I think that shouldn't be necessary... but it shouldn't hurt either
[10:14] <iNiku> McScruff: I think you must have done something else, too... do you get any errors when it's booting up?
[10:15] <iNiku> can you start up X and kde manually by doing a sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start?
[10:15] <McScruff> iNiku, it loads everything on the splash screen then when it is about to load the kdm it goes to a black screen
[10:16] <danst> hi i just installed dapper drake (kubuntu/german) and it seems that it has a different encoding than previous versions. I cannot see the special characters in my home directory! (locale says: de_DE.UTF-8 as it should!)
[10:17] <piotrek> hi macd :)
[10:17] <macd> hi, and whats going on?
[10:17] <McScruff> iNiku, xorg log saya "Fatal server error no screens found"
[10:17] <piotrek> i've icc installed :)
[10:17] <piotrek> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1035153#post1035153
[10:17] <iNiku> McScruff: well, that would explain it
[10:18] <iNiku> McScruff: your X config is broken somehow
[10:18] <McScruff> hmmm
[10:18] <piotrek> see the bottom of this page ;)
[10:18] <McScruff> iNiku, is there a way i can fix this?
[10:19] <iNiku> guess you could try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:19] <macd> nice piotrek It wouldve taken months for me to figure that out :P
[10:19] <macd> Id contact intel about that fix too :P
[10:20] <load> doing a full upgrade wants to remove a lot of packages and I can't figure out why
[10:20] <piotrek> :)
[10:20] <load> any reason why?
[10:23] <McScruff> wow dappe runs sooooo fast with no gui
[10:23] <McScruff> *dapper
[10:23] <iNiku> hehe
[10:23] <McScruff> rebooting :P
[10:23] <McScruff> picked up my corect screen res tho
[10:23] <iNiku> I remember back when I had to upgrade my RAM from 8MB to 16MB so X would run faster :P
[10:24] <McScruff> i have a GUI!!!!!!! THANKYOU iNiku !!!!!
[10:24] <McScruff> w00000000000t
[10:24] <iNiku> you're welcome :)
[10:24] <_thumper_> anyone know of some good cifs samples, my mount has all ownership set to 35000:root
[10:24] <iNiku> probably working wlan, too :)
[10:25] <iNiku> since you now have the blacklist line right
[10:25] <McScruff> screen resdidnt load right tho :(
[10:26] <iNiku> _thumper_: you have uid=35000 in your /etc/fstab line?
[10:27] <_michel> comment faire fonctonner une camera logitech sus ubuntu avec gnomemeeting
[10:27] <bachstudies> does anyone know how to fine tune the monitor power saving feature? After 30 mins by monitor doesn't completely switch off like in other distros
[10:27] <_thumper_> iNiku, no I don't have uid set at all, tried it set but made no difference
[10:28] <iNiku> _thumper_: okay, strange... haven't used cifs so no idea, sorry
[10:28] <McScruff> iNiku, if xserver-xorg detected my screen res of 1280x800 is there any reason why i cant select it in my desktop
[10:28] <_thumper_> iNiku, oh well...
[10:28] <iNiku> McScruff: um... what do you mean you can't select it? what res is your X server running at, then?
[10:29] <stodge> Anyone familiar with this error when starting kontact:     "Running Kontact more than once is not supported by the Metakit backend and can cause the loss of archived articles and crashes at startup."'''
[10:29] <McScruff> iNiku, 1024x786
[10:29] <iNiku> bachstudies: isn't it in the kde control panel?
[10:29] <McScruff> yes, but the max it says there is 1024x786
[10:29] <iNiku> McScruff: says where?
[10:29] <iNiku> McScruff: oh, in control panel?
[10:29] <McScruff> in the desktop config
[10:29] <McScruff> :P
[10:29] <sampan> is it bad if there's an adept/apt error on doing a dapper upgrade?  O_O
[10:30] <trip> what kind of error
[10:30] <trip> hehe
[10:30] <iNiku> ah. I was suggesting the control panel to bachstudies :)
[10:30] <McScruff> i saw after :P
[10:30] <iNiku> McScruff: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xrog.conf?
[10:30] <iNiku> xorg.conf
[10:30] <McScruff> i can, lemmie log on from the lappy
[10:30] <sampan> trip, just one package in adept gives an error on downloading it (thus far only this one: libaudio2 1.7-3ubuntu3)
[10:30] <McScruff> iNiku, brb
[10:30] <sampan> so i'm guessing the package never even downloaded
[10:31] <bachstudies> iNiku: there is no option anymore in the control panel. only the system settings one
[10:31] <McScruff> on lappy now
[10:31] <iNiku> bachstudies: oh, okay, same difference :P
[10:33] <iNiku> bachstudies: you mean you have 30 minutes set in system settings -> display -> power saving but it doesn't completely turn off the monitor?
[10:33] <trip> sampan, might just be busy update servers
[10:33] <bachstudies> iNiku: but the one in system settings only have one option : on or off. I want my LCD screen to switch off (as in windows, PCLOS etc) rather than go on standby (monitor screen still lit up)
[10:33] <trip> i was having horrible issues upgrading dapper a couple weeks ago bc of network traffic
[10:33] <bachstudies> iNiku: exactly!
[10:33] <McScruff> iNiku: http://pastebin.com/752095
[10:33] <sampan> trip, hope that's all it is -- the rest of the packages seem to be coming in okay though :/
[10:33] <iNiku> bachstudies: okay... xset should do it
[10:34] <iNiku> bachstudies: xset q to see your current settings
[10:34] <bachstudies> iNiku: in a terminal?
[10:34] <iNiku> yep
[10:34] <bachstudies> iNiku: ok i can see the settings
[10:35] <iNiku> dpms enabled?
[10:35] <bachstudies> iNiku: it says DPMS enabled buy standby, suspend and Off are all set as 1800
[10:35] <iNiku> bachstudies: hmm, okay, sounds like it should work then... 1800 seconds is 30 minutes
[10:36] <iNiku> not sure why it's not working, then
[10:36] <bachstudies> iNiku: but won't there be an issue which the three modes set to the same time?
[10:36] <bachstudies> iNiku: is there any way to disable standby and suspend modes?
[10:36] <iNiku> McScruff: what does xrandr tell you?
[10:36] <iNiku> bachstudies: you could probably try setting them to 0
[10:37] <bachstudies> iNiku: how?
[10:37] <iNiku> xset dpms standby 0 probably
[10:37] <McScruff>  SZ:    Pixels          Physical       Refresh
[10:37] <McScruff> *0   1024 x 768    ( 302mm x 191mm )  *60
[10:37] <McScruff>  1    800 x 600    ( 302mm x 191mm )   60
[10:37] <McScruff>  2    640 x 480    ( 302mm x 191mm )   60
[10:37] <iNiku> and xset dpms suspend 0
[10:37] <tommy> hi, ive just installed kubuntu dapper drake (newest version; 6.04) and i need a good sources.list file. Ive been using www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic before, but that page is down, so i dont know anymore sources list generators, anyone might help?(A)
[10:38] <iNiku> McScruff: hmm, that's strange. xorg.conf says 1280x800
[10:38] <iNiku> McScruff: I think a friend had the same issue and he sorted it out somehow, I juts don't know how... have you checked the ubuntu wiki?
[10:38] <McScruff> iNiku: will i have to use the dirty 915resolution hack?
[10:38] <tommy> plz anyone?
[10:38] <iNiku> McScruff: dunno, what's that? :)
[10:39] <foodcoman> Where could one get Kubuntu cd label artwork?
[10:39] <McScruff> iNiku: you can make intel gfx chips run at certain res's you just stick the line in a bootup config and it will make it run at what u set
[10:39] <iNiku> ugh
[10:40] <iNiku> could you pastebin your xorg.0.log too?
[10:40] <tommy> source!
[10:40] <iNiku> Xorg.0.log that is
[10:40] <tommy> plz
[10:41] <iNiku> tommy: latest version is 6.06, not 6.04
[10:41] <tommy> yeah
[10:41] <tommy> sorry
[10:41] <tommy> i use 6.06
[10:41] <tommy> but i need a sources.list file:(
[10:41] <tommy> and i want to generate it myself, so i get all mirrors
[10:41] <iNiku> but, dunno where you could get a good sources.list if the standard one with universe and multiverse uncommented is not enough
[10:42] <tommy> iNiku; ok
[10:43] <bachstudies> iNiku: ok I've tried each mode by itself (testing with 10 sec intervals) and each one just puts the monitor into standby
[10:44] <iNiku> oh... McScruff, have you tried system settings -> display -> hardware?
[10:44] <McScruff> iNiku: my xorg log = http://pastebin.com/752118 and http://pastebin.com/752122
[10:44] <iNiku> there's a setting for image format there, 4:3 or widescreen
[10:44] <iNiku> dunno if that would help
[10:44] <iNiku> I have no idea what it actually affects
[10:45] <McScruff> looking for the widescreen now
[10:46] <iNiku> McScruff: in the monitor settings
[10:46] <iNiku> click on configure
[10:46] <McScruff> iNiku: im gonna restart X to rest
[10:47] <McScruff> iNiku: how do i just resrt X
[10:47] <jorgp> isn't https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDRipping a little bit dated, talking about gstreamer-0.8 instead of 0.10
[10:47] <iNiku> if that doesn't help, you could perhaps even try forcing a "generic flat panel 1280x800" display type in there
[10:48] <iNiku> ctrl-alt-backspace will kill X
[10:48] <iNiku> and kdm will then restart it
[10:49] <BASEman> what contains the DVD compared to the CD?
[10:52] <RogueJediX> Is Crystal window decoration based on Vista by any chance?
[10:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there.. i have the usual problem with skype.. using oss it get the /dev/dsp resource busy and it has problems releasing it after it finishes.. is there a way to force the release of a resource, like in this case the audio output device?
[10:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> obviously without having to turn off skype everytime...
[10:54] <mirspcm> Tallia1Kubuntu: fuser -k /dev/dsp will kill anything useing /dev/dsp
[10:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> that will turn off skype though
[10:55] <mirspcm> Tallia1Kubuntu: but you have to know skype handle audio like sh** so it won't release dsp after a call or something
[10:55] <shadow_mil> Where can I add a command that will run before Xserver starts
[10:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mirspcm: so you know this problem perfectly
[10:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> shadow_mil: in the /etc/rc?.d
[10:55] <mirspcm> Tallia1Kubuntu: and the skype team did ensure it is the real dsp and not a wrapper so such things like arts mapper won't work
[10:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see, however i don't like arts a lots
[10:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it's very slow..
[10:56] <shadow_mil> Tallia1Kubuntu: I am not sure which file to add it in, or where
[10:56] <mirspcm> Tallia1Kubuntu: trust me on this : I spend sooo much time on this probleme (with f*ck** clients not willing to use something else)
[10:56] <mirspcm> Tallia1Kubuntu: nobody likes arts but at list you could use some other sound program at the same time
[10:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mirspcm: i see... since you spent so much time what did you choose for audio settings? like engine and so on
[10:57] <mirspcm> Tallia1Kubuntu: plain oss, no other sound program running on system
[10:57] <iNiku> shadow_mil: /etc/rc.local
[10:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mirspcm: yeah, you are right.. but where do you select arts? from kcontrol i can't.. there's alsa esd oss autodetect..
[10:57] <iNiku> probably
[10:57] <mirspcm> Tallia1Kubuntu: skype restarting 16x a day 'cause of I/O problems
[10:57] <shadow_mil> What run level does Xserver start in kubuntu?
[10:57] <shadow_mil> ok
[10:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> iNiku: mhh?
[10:57] <iNiku> shadow_mil: which command do you want to run?
[10:58] <mirspcm> Tallia1Kubuntu: it's not something you select, it's more like a hack useing artsdsp -m /usr/bin/skype command
[10:58] <mirspcm> tailbut it doesn't work because skype detects the wrapper and gets around it.
[10:58] <iNiku> does skype work with aoss?
[10:58] <mirspcm> Tallia1Kubuntu: it s*cks
[10:58] <jorgp> anyone know where the kubuntu cd install labels can be found?
[10:58] <shadow_mil>    /usr/bin/915resolution 45 1024 768
[10:59] <mirspcm> skyype works with OSS (alsa emulation or the real one doesn't matter) and it just grabs the real dsp and doesn't give up
[10:59] <iNiku> mirspcm: if it works with aoss, you can use dmix or hw mixing
[11:00] <mirspcm> iNiku: I thought too.. but didn't seem to work
[11:00] <mirspcm> iNiku: I admit I just gave up
[11:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so arts is a layer over oss or alsa or whatever else..?
[11:00] <shadow_mil> what init does xsever start in kubuntu?
[11:00] <mirspcm> iNiku: maybe it does work now with alsa mixer
[11:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> shadow_mil: boh!! :)
[11:00] <iNiku> mirspcm: hmm, strange... should give that a try at some point
[11:01] <mirspcm> Tallia1Kubuntu: arts is an old kde sound server abover alsa/oss
[11:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> x11-common? xorg-common?
[11:01] <iNiku> shadow_mil: 2, 3, 4 and 5
[11:01] <shadow_mil> ok...
[11:01] <mirspcm> well I must leave
[11:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> kdm?
[11:01] <mirspcm> see ya !
[11:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok see ya
[11:01] <iNiku> shadow_mil: if you were asking about run levels?
[11:02] <iNiku> the init script is /etc/init.d/kdm
[11:02] <shadow_mil> ok
[11:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> iNiku: i don't have /etc/rc.local
[11:02] <iNiku> Tallia1Kubuntu: maybe it's not there by default anymore
[11:02] <iNiku> but it does work
[11:03] <shadow_mil> brb
[11:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so if you create that folder it will work?
[11:03] <iNiku> file, not folder
[11:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> those will be executed as root anyway right?
[11:03] <iNiku> yep
[11:03] <iNiku> it's just one script, /etc/rc.local
[11:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ahah, i saw it now :)
[11:04] <DrBair> almost all the the plugsin in dvdrip are non-functional... any ideas?
[11:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i taught it was a folder :)
[11:04] <bachstudies> anybody else know how to make my monitor actually turn off rather than just standby (tried xset dpms options to no avail)
[11:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> iNiku: since you seem to be so well informed.. is there a way to execute a program in the User context, before the starting of X? if X crash, and the program was started by X subprocess will crash too :(
[11:06] <iNiku> Tallia1Kubuntu: umm... like what program?
[11:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dunno, like amule daemon
[11:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> or noip2
[11:06] <iNiku> Tallia1Kubuntu: so the point is you want it to run as a certain user instead of root?
[11:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yep
[11:07] <iNiku> Tallia1Kubuntu: you could put su user -c "command" in /etc/rc.local
[11:07] <iNiku> but make sure your command forks into the background
[11:07] <iNiku> ie. becomes a daemon
[11:07] <iNiku> if it stays in the foreground, it will block the bootup
[11:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> using & ?
[11:08] <iNiku> yeah, if it doesn't daemoniza by itself
[11:09] <iNiku> most things written to run as daemons will automatically fork into the background and exit immediately
[11:09] <iNiku> just make sure yours does before you put it in rc.local :)
[11:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> iNiku: won't su USER -c "balbal" need the password insertion?
[11:09] <iNiku> Tallia1Kubuntu: not when it's run as root
[11:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oh, i see, so root can execute a whatever command emulating completely a whatever user without having any privilege..
[11:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nice.. :P
[11:10] <iNiku> root has all privileges :)
[11:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> iNiku: ok .... see ya!
[11:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> rc.local is before than X starts right?
[11:12] <iNiku> yep
[11:12] <iNiku> oh
[11:13] <iNiku> actually, not necessarily
[11:13] <iNiku> # This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel.
[11:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?? don't understand
[11:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what's a multiuser runlevel..
[11:13] <andrei> Hi there...
[11:14] <iNiku> any normal runlevel is a multiuser runlevel
[11:14] <andrei> I've upgraded to Kde 3.5.3...
[11:14] <andrei> and now I have a problem...
[11:14] <andrei> with my network...
[11:14] <andrei> I need to disable/enable
[11:14] <andrei> after each reboot
[11:14] <iNiku> Tallia1Kubuntu: but what that means is that it might actually run after X start
[11:14] <andrei> to make it work
[11:15] <andrei> anyone?
[11:15] <Vliegendehuiskat> allright
[11:15] <Vliegendehuiskat> it seems to be this way that everyone who knows how to deal with problems is gone
[11:16] <andrei> :(
[11:16] <iNiku> andrei: I'm not sure what you mean
[11:16] <andrei> well...
[11:16] <andrei> :)
[11:16] <iNiku> you need to disable/enable what?
[11:17] <andrei> if I don;t do this
[11:17] <pgquiles> does dapper include XGL?
[11:17] <andrei> my internet connection isn't working
[11:17] <iNiku> Vliegendehuiskat: what do you mean? you haven't even asked a question as far as I can see?
[11:17] <Vliegendehuiskat> nope
[11:17] <Vliegendehuiskat> cause its a bit Asocial to do
[11:17] <Vliegendehuiskat> well
[11:17] <Vliegendehuiskat> i'll fire away than
[11:17] <andrei> enable/disable from system settings... kde menu...
[11:17] <Vliegendehuiskat> i'm installing kubuntu
[11:18] <Vliegendehuiskat> from the cd yes
[11:18] <iNiku> andrei: enable what?
[11:18] <Vliegendehuiskat> and in the end it reboots
[11:18] <Vliegendehuiskat> well
[11:18] <iNiku> the network?
[11:18] <andrei> the network card
[11:18] <Vliegendehuiskat> now its in that reboot
[11:18] <andrei> yes
[11:18] <Vliegendehuiskat> and the screen is black
[11:18] <iNiku> andrei: hmm... what kind of network card?
[11:18] <Vliegendehuiskat> the hdd led flashes like an idiot
[11:18] <Vliegendehuiskat> and the cursor stil flickers
[11:18] <Vliegendehuiskat> ow yeah
[11:18] <andrei> nForce 3 Gigabit
[11:18] <Vliegendehuiskat> and caps lock responds
[11:18] <Vliegendehuiskat> but thats all it does
[11:19] <Vliegendehuiskat> and its like this for alredy 15 min
[11:19] <Vliegendehuiskat> so
[11:19] <Vliegendehuiskat> anyone with suggestions?
[11:19] <andrei> that happend after upgrading to kde 3.5.3
[11:19] <iNiku> Vliegendehuiskat: did it show anything during the reboot before the screen went black?
[11:19] <Vliegendehuiskat> yup
[11:19] <Vliegendehuiskat> it did
[11:19] <Vliegendehuiskat> but thats gone now
[11:20] <Vliegendehuiskat> half of the shutdown actions seemed to be ok
[11:20] <Vliegendehuiskat> but than..... its like this :P
[11:20] <Vliegendehuiskat> (btw its a laptop
[11:20] <iNiku> hmm
[11:21] <xwolf-> how is NTFS writing in dapper?
[11:21] <OlliK> bad
[11:21] <iNiku> it's not
[11:22] <andrei> Ixwolf: fuse-utils
[11:22] <andrei> it works
[11:22] <andrei> with ntfs
[11:22] <andrei> write
[11:22] <andrei> pretty damn good
[11:22] <Vliegendehuiskat> iNiku, just power down and reinstall?
[11:22] <xwolf-> i don't intend to write on ntfs.. just wondering, cause in breezy you couldnt
[11:22] <iNiku> Vliegendehuiskat: I guess you've tried rebooting again?
[11:22] <Vliegendehuiskat> well
[11:23] <Vliegendehuiskat> that the point
[11:23] <Vliegendehuiskat> it stuck up in the reboot
[11:23] <Vliegendehuiskat> and since the hdd led flashes
[11:23] <Vliegendehuiskat> i'm like
[11:23] <xwolf-> damn slow full upgrade, still 54% :/
[11:23] <Vliegendehuiskat> is it doing something or not?
[11:24] <iNiku> Vliegendehuiskat: yeah, dunno...
[11:24] <Vliegendehuiskat> allright :P
[11:24] <Vliegendehuiskat> than i don't seem to be suchs a noob after all
[11:24] <Vliegendehuiskat> :P
[11:24] <iNiku> I haven't done a dapper install so I have no idea how it works :)
[11:24] <Vliegendehuiskat> well
[11:25] <iNiku> I upgraded from breezy
[11:25] <Vliegendehuiskat> now I powerd it down
[11:25] <Vliegendehuiskat> and grub loads
[11:25] <Vliegendehuiskat> well I'll see where it end up
[11:25] <iNiku> btw, I have to ask... I know what huiskat means but what's vliegende? :D
[11:25] <Vliegendehuiskat> :)
[11:25] <Vliegendehuiskat> flyinghousecat
[11:26] <Vliegendehuiskat> you know dutch?
[11:26] <iNiku> ahh, of course, that's why it was so familiar
[11:26] <iNiku> only a tiny bit... I worked there for a few months some years ago
[11:26] <BASEman> I am currently burning the 10.1 DVD using k3b and it's going horribly slowly. Mouse and keyboard are showing off delays. Any idea where this could come from?
[11:26] <Vliegendehuiskat> bumped into me somwhere else?
[11:26] <Vliegendehuiskat> allright
[11:26] <Vliegendehuiskat> where did you work?
[11:27] <iNiku> I knew what huiskat meant and vliegende sounded familiar, just couldn't remember what it means :)
[11:27] <Vliegendehuiskat> :)
[11:27] <iNiku> we had an office in Rotterdam and server room just off A10 in Amsterdam
[11:27] <iNiku> the company that I worked for, that is
[11:27] <Vliegendehuiskat> must have been redbus
[11:27] <iNiku> actually Level 3 :)
[11:28] <Vliegendehuiskat> hm
[11:28] <Vliegendehuiskat> possible too
[11:28] <Vliegendehuiskat> well
[11:28] <Vliegendehuiskat> kubuntu seems to load :D
[11:28] <macd> slowly :{
[11:28] <iNiku> good :)  wonder what it was doing before, though...
[11:28] <Vliegendehuiskat> so am I
[11:28] <macd> sluggishly loading :P
[11:29] <Vliegendehuiskat> time to change the root pass :D
[11:29] <iNiku> (just to clarify, I didn't work for L3, we just rented loads of rack space from them)
[11:29] <macd> ehh I thought you 2 were talking about the kubuntu web, not the os install.!
[11:29] <Vliegendehuiskat> ok
[11:29] <Vliegendehuiskat> nah
[11:29] <Vliegendehuiskat> anyway
[11:30] <SkrotFFS> Is there a torrent for kubuntu 6.06 CD-version?
[11:30] <iNiku> SkrotFFS: yes
[11:30] <SkrotFFS> You've got a URL for that? =)
[11:30] <Vliegendehuiskat> the state has been pumping up internet exchanges everywhere now
[11:30] <Vliegendehuiskat> we have 12 atm :P
[11:30] <iNiku> SkrotFFS: hang on, I might
[11:31] <iNiku> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[11:31] <SkrotFFS> ah, thanks
[11:31] <iNiku> use the ubuntu ones
[11:31] <iNiku> not dapper-whatnot
[11:32] <Vliegendehuiskat> iNiku,
[11:32] <Vliegendehuiskat> you know where the install log is left?
[11:32] <SkrotFFS> allrighty
[11:32] <iNiku> Vliegendehuiskat: hehe
[11:32] <iNiku> hmm... nope
[11:35] <iNiku> there seems to be something under /var/log/installer
[11:38] <andrei> I've fixed the network enable/disable problem... :)
[11:38] <andrei> bad dhcp...
[11:38] <Vliegendehuiskat> hm
[11:38] <Vliegendehuiskat> iNiku,
[11:38] <Vliegendehuiskat> nothing
[11:38] <Vliegendehuiskat> I guess it just did shutdown :P
[11:39] <iNiku> if the hd light was flashing though...
[11:39] <Vliegendehuiskat> yeah
[11:39] <Vliegendehuiskat> well
[11:39] <Vliegendehuiskat> now i'm gonna mount my partitions again
[11:39] <Vliegendehuiskat> cause the installer has an awfull bug
[11:40] <Vliegendehuiskat> It can only take 3 partitions
[11:40] <iNiku> which installer?
[11:40] <iNiku> or both?
[11:40] <HymnToLife> I know lots of people having problems with the Dapper installer
[11:41] <Vliegendehuiskat> the installer from the live cd
[11:41] <nocloud> can anybody give me instructions on upgrading breezy to dapper?
[11:41] <andrei> what do you mean, only 3 partitions?
[11:41] <nocloud> the ones online don't make sense to me......
[11:41] <HymnToLife> I guess I will stick with Breezy and dist-upgrade
[11:41] <nocloud> how do i change distributions in adept?
[11:43] <HymnToLife> nocloud> what d'you mean ?
[11:43] <nocloud> i'm trying to upgrade breezy to dapper....
[11:43] <davidhouse> i think he means upgrade
[11:43] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can upgrade?
[11:44] <HymnToLife> !upgrade
[11:44] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[11:45] <sampan> !kupgrade   ;)
[11:45] <ubotu> sampan: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:46] <McScruff> iNiku: i ran 915resolution , but everything works now :) thankyou again for your great support
[11:46] <sampan> nocloud, in adept, go to the top menu: Adept --> "manage repositories" ... then double click on every instance of "breezy" and change it to "dapper" -- then hit "apply" ... then "fetch updates" ... then you can "review changes" or "full upgrade" i think
[11:46] <Vliegendehuiskat> anyway
[11:46] <Vliegendehuiskat> folks!
[11:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> thanx for the kind support
[11:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> i'm gonna reinstall it again tomorrow cause I don't trust it :P
[11:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> anyway
[11:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> now i'm off
[11:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> later all!
[11:47] <iNiku> fly safely :)
[11:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> :)
[11:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> I will
[11:48] <Vliegendehuiskat> (K)ubuntu will protect me
[11:48] <iNiku> hmm... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LVMOnRaid?highlight=%28lvm%29%7C%28install%29
[11:48] <Vliegendehuiskat> bye!
[11:48] <iNiku> wonder how seriously that is out of date
[11:48] <heinrich> how do i install apache and php and mysql?
[11:49] <sampan> !lamp
[11:49] <iNiku> it claims grub cannot be used to boot an lvm/raid system, wonder if that's still true?
[11:49] <sampan> ubotu tell heinrich about lamp
[11:50] <DaveQB> anyone having trouble with thunderbird launching ANY brower on url clicks?
[11:52] <K|NgGh0sT> How do I get ubuntu from showing "Display CHanged: LCD On" randomly all the time?
[11:54] <DaveQB> found it! galternatives is your friend ;-)
[11:55] <davidhouse> good luck with the rest of the launch, team. thanks for making it fairly painless: just fix emacs and everything will be rosy :)
[11:55] <slow-motion> re
[11:56] <iNiku> what, emacs is borked?
[11:57] <eric_p> ping Riddell
[11:57] <elgordo123> -->Probably asked 1 million times today...   Where can I download the x86 torrent (non-dvd)
[11:57] <davidhouse> iNiku: yeah. emacs*-nox is okay, but emacs and emacs-gtk are borked.
[11:58] <iNiku> elgordo123: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/, look for the *ubuntu* torrents
[11:58] <elgordo123> thank you iNiku!
[11:58] <iNiku> (not the dapper ones)
[11:58] <iNiku> davidhouse: hmm, borked how?
[11:58] <elgordo123> oh dapper is not there?  thats what I'm after
[11:59] <iNiku> elgordo123: I meant, look for the ubuntu-6.06 ones
[11:59] <iNiku> those are the dapper images you want
[11:59] <elgordo123> thanks
[11:59] <davidhouse> iNiku: running it crashes with something like "no such font: MonospaceXsomething or other". i mentioned it to seth earlier and he said there was meant to be a line break in between the Monospace and the X.
[12:00] <altprsona> i was doing and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade after changing my sources to the 6. from the 5. and i accidentally stopped the thing. can i restart it from where it was or do i have to do it all agaain?
[12:00] <iNiku> davidhouse: oh... oh well
[12:00] <visik7> the problem releated to casually LCD on  is solvable ?
[12:01] <davidhouse> iNiku: just hope it gets fixed soon, i'm not much use without emacs.
[12:01] <bluszcz> hi
[12:01] <iNiku> davidhouse: when did it break? seems to work here
[12:02] <bluszcz> does dapper is equipped with xgk by default?
[12:02] <davidhouse> iNiku: oh? let me check it out
[12:03] <iNiku> I have emacs21 here
[12:03] <davidhouse> the normal X one?
[12:03] <altprsona> can "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" be resumed if it gets stopped?
[12:03] <iNiku> I suppose that's what it is, the package is just called emacs21
[12:04] <iNiku> was installed by default
[12:04] <davidhouse> yeah.
[12:04] <davidhouse> i think i tried that.
[12:04] <iNiku> Package: emacs21
[12:04] <iNiku> Version: 21.4a-3ubuntu2