[12:00] <ruskie_> ;)
[12:00] <czambran> Seveas so now it wont be released at 2006-06-01 00:00 GMT?
[12:00] <cached> seveas: finish it today and have cron script edit the page linking to it
[12:00] <livevil> airblue, I've tryed to follow the instrunction written in the web page you have indicated, but the file sources.list is different
[12:00] <Seveas> czambran, no
[12:00] <todayisagift> keherman: i d/l audacious the winamp-like media player, i extracted it to the tmp folder and now i forgot what to do
[12:00] <Mewshi> it says it couldn't find "libxine-extracodecs" is there something i need to add to the repositories?
[12:00] <pitti_> kermitX_: aptitude automatically removes dependencies it installed automatically
[12:00] <keherman> todayisagift, go into the directoy
[12:01] <czambran> Seveas, will new updates come out once it gets released?
[12:01] <cached> yes
[12:01] <Spec> Mewshi: enable the multiverse
[12:01] <cached> i can answer that one :)
[12:01] <Mewshi> how do i do that?
[12:01] <todayisagift> keherman: ok
[12:01] <cached> edit the file
[12:01] <cached> wtf
[12:01] <Spec> !multiverse
[12:01] <pitti_> kermitX_, if you aptitude install foo, this pulls in bar, then aptitude remove foo will also remove bar, since you didn't explicitly want it
[12:01] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:01] <sybariten> todayisagift: you sure you couldnt install it via apt-get ?
[12:01] <Spec> Mewshi: ^^
[12:01] <keherman> todayisagift, whats in there?
[12:01] <pitti_> kermitX_, that's a great feature to keep your system clean
[12:01] <cached> why is my screen suddenly ultraviolet or some shit
[12:01] <cached> whoop
[12:01] <cached> s
[12:01] <cached> *some poop
[12:01] <kermitX_> pitti_ this is an XUBUNTU install (!)
[12:02] <Spec> cached: your monitor hates you
[12:02] <cached> it wants me to get cancer
[12:02] <Seveas> kermitX_, the installer uses aptitude 
[12:02] <Spec> you can fix it, you know
[12:02] <HymnToLife> lmao Spec
[12:02] <zelevw> hi...im trying to use an ssh tunnel for vnc and I type:  ssh -L 5901:remotehost:5901 remotehost , once connected I try to vncviewer localhost:1 and I get this error: ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::EndOfStream What am I doing wrong? Thanks.
[12:02] <pitti_> kermitX_, usually, the installer manually installs all *-desktop dependencies to prevent that; if xubuntu doesn't do that, then you should indeed file a bug
[12:02] <pitti_> crimsun?
[12:03] <crimsun> pitti_: a friendly hug.
[12:03] <zelux> hello...i am braziliam...........good for all
[12:03] <zelux> hello for all
[12:03] <thementor> hello channel
[12:03] <kermitX_> pitti_ will test final and see what it does.
[12:03] <thementor> im currently using 5.10
[12:03] <twobitsprite> something happened to my system and now I GDM won't load... the x server complains about "kbd (module does not exist, 0)"
[12:04] <thementor> what is the default mp3 player in ubuntu 5.10
[12:04] <twobitsprite> I installed "kbd" package, but nothing changes...
[12:04] <ucordes> totem?
[12:04] <ucordes> hey all
[12:04] <ucordes> when will it be out to download :-) ?
[12:04] <cached> im using 6.07
[12:05] <todayisagift> sybariten: it says on the site to type in  # apt-get install audacious i did that and it gives me an error of the following
[12:05] <thementor> ucordes:it says pls check gstream installation
[12:05] <zelevw> Its June 1st here already...when can I download dapper?
[12:05] <cached> zeleww: thepiratebay.com
[12:05] <keherman> zelevw, where are you?!!
[12:05] <cached> israel
[12:05] <zelevw> keherman: spain
[12:05] <todayisagift> sybariten: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:05] <todayisagift> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:05] <cached> dammit
[12:05] <cached> close
[12:05] <cached> todayisagift you have something using it
[12:05] <yct> prague
[12:05] <mirak> in the install cd , when can we install on disk ?
[12:05] <novato56785> hi ervy1
[12:05] <Seveas> todayisagift, sudo ...
[12:06] <keherman> todayisagift, use sudo
[12:06] <zelevw> hi...im trying to use an ssh tunnel for vnc and I type:  ssh -L 5901:remotehost:5901 remotehost , once connected I try to vncviewer localhost:1 and I get this error: ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::EndOfStream What am I doing wrong? Thanks.
[12:06] <thementor> hello
[12:06] <twobitsprite> so yeah... anyone have any idea about my problem with my x server? It complains that it can't find a module called "kbd"...?
[12:06] <thementor> what is the default mp3 plauer
[12:06] <Polibio> crimsun, but they say "10 CD sent to the shiping company" not "the order sent..."
[12:06] <ucordes> hey thementor
[12:06] <thementor> totem isnt playing it
[12:06] <ucordes> install the packet gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:06] <C_REATIVE> totme
[12:06] <ucordes> you know hot to do this?
[12:06] <ucordes> how
[12:07] <todayisagift> so it will be sudo-get ...
[12:07] <Polibio> I'm worried they send the Breezy
[12:07] <thementor> ucordes:where is it available
[12:07] <novato56785> im trying to get 3e accel with a radeon9200 in an amd64 motherboard
[12:07] <keherman> zelevw, dont you want localhost instead of remotehost there?
[12:07] <ucordes> well
[12:07] <zelevw> keherman: ill try that
[12:07] <crimsun> Polibio: the wording is odd, but rest assured they haven't yet shipped 10 dapper cds.
[12:07] <Polibio> ok, thanks
[12:07] <keherman> zelevw, :localhost:
[12:07] <zelevw> keherman: Couldn't convert 'remotehost' to host address
[12:07] <novato56785> dmesg: [drm:radeon_cp_init]  *ERROR* radeon_cp_init called without lock held
[12:08] <Mewshi> they're still not showing up
[12:08] <Nightflopp> Hello! Does anybody know how many hours are left before dapper release?
[12:08] <twobitsprite> can someone please help me, I don't want to have to reinstall... :(
[12:08] <Polibio> bye for now
[12:08] <zelevw> keherman: vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
[12:08] <ucordes> no im wondrin too nightflop
[12:08] <keherman> zelevw, you physically need to type the ip or hostname
[12:08] <pjw> Will the free DVDs be with the new ubuntu?
[12:08] <thementor> is there any way of knowing bout the status of my cd request
[12:08] <todayisagift> keherman: how do i rearrange it to use sudo, i apologize for sounding like a dumbass but i am fairly new at using ubuntu
[12:08] <zelevw> keherman: do you have experience with ssh tunneling?
[12:08] <your_mom> i broke x, how can i fix this?not even dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg works
[12:08] <keherman> todayisagift, rearrange it?
[12:09] <erus`> hu guys -> i followed the wiki about installing drivers for my radeon 9800pro and i get this http://pastebin.com/750028 *line 652*
[12:09] <keherman> zelevw, yea
[12:09] <keherman> zelevw, what is your goal?
[12:09] <sybariten> todayisagift: "sudo apt-get install packagename"
[12:09] <todayisagift> keherman: lol not rearrange it but what would be the command using sudo?
[12:09] <zelevw> keherman: .im trying to use an ssh tunnel for vnc and I type:  ssh -L 5901:remotehost:5901 remotehost , once connected I try to vncviewer localhost:1 and I get this error: ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::EndOfStream What am I doing wrong? Thanks.
[12:09] <livevil> please someone could help me to installa vlc, I can't do it from synaptic
[12:09] <ucordes> why livevil?
[12:09] <Mewshi> i still can't find any xine packages...
[12:09] <keherman> todayisagift, what are you trying to do?
[12:10] <keherman> zelevw, who is "remotehost" ?
[12:10] <erus`> nvr mind
[12:10] <livevil> because, like someone was explaining me before, it isn't updated
[12:10] <keherman> zelevw, you need an actual IP address there!
[12:10] <thementor> is gstream package only 50kb???
[12:10] <your_mom> any help on my question?
[12:10] <livevil> It doesn't appear on the list
[12:10] <zelevw> keherman: thanks, Im using remotehost here but Im using a FQDN
[12:11] <keherman> k
[12:11] <fuffalo> is the ubuntu site running drupal
[12:11] <yct> wondering why ubuntu doesn't provide some easy pointer (like a notification bubble) to easyubuntu or some sort of automatix script right after install.. would make it much easier for many and still be legal
[12:11] <avalente> !!easyubuntu
[12:11] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, avalente
[12:11] <avalente> !! easyubuntu
[12:11] <ubotu> avalente: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:11] <avalente> ups
[12:11] <yct> !easyubuntu
[12:11] <ubotu> from memory, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[12:12] <manhan> hi
[12:12] <sybariten> todayisagift: did that work ?
[12:12] <[zero] > Hi im having some problems installing ubuntu on a pc, would there be any problems if i installed it to the HDD on this computer then put the HDD into the other computer?
[12:12] <todayisagift> keherman: ok i am trying to install audacious, the sudo command is not working because it says it can't locate the file "audacious" but i have it d/l i extracted to my tmp folder and i just needed to figure out how to install it
[12:12] <eric> can anyone tell me how to uninstall doom3 i used the loki installer to install it ??????
[12:12] <todayisagift> sybariten: keherman: ok i am trying to install audacious, the sudo command is not working because it says it can't locate the file "audacious" but i have it d/l i extracted to my tmp folder and i just needed to figure out how to install it
[12:13] <keherman> todayisagift, is it a source package or a DEB file?
[12:13] <your_mom> i broke x, how can i fix this?not even dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg works?
[12:13] <livevil> vlc, please help me to install it!!!!!
[12:13] <sybariten> todayisagift: if you use apt-get,  you shouldnt manually download stuff first. Apt-get till do that for you (hence the name ;)
[12:13] <gnomefreak> livevil: sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:13] <lsuactiafner> how many hours from now will dapper be out?
[12:13] <gnomefreak> !info vlc
[12:13] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, ~12
[12:13] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[12:14] <gnomefreak> lsuactiafner: 24
[12:14] <sybariten> hehe
[12:14] <odjay> hello everybody
[12:14] <livevil> Ok gnome, i'll try
[12:14] <todayisagift> sybariten: i know, but when i did the apt-get it gave me and error, along with sudo apt-get it says it couldn't find the file
[12:14] <gnomefreak> livevil: enable universe repo than sudo apt-get update
[12:14] <Rdde> hi, im trying to install kismet (www.kismetwireless.net) i have downloaded the gz file and unpacked it.. now wnat?
[12:14] <odjay> someone did try the persistent flag at boot with livecd
[12:14] <blah> whats ubuntu's server channel
[12:14] <todayisagift> keherman: all of the files says "source code" after them as the description
[12:14] <ucordes> darn mates i cant wait
[12:14] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-server?
[12:15] <ucordes> :-)
[12:15] <keherman> todayisagift, apt-get will only install packages in the official repositories -- not things you downloaded outside of this
[12:15] <livevil> it answer that it's impossible to find vnc
[12:15] <gnomefreak> livevil: vnc or vlc?
[12:15] <ucordes> let's all have a dapper pre release party
[12:15] <keherman> todayisagift, do you see a Makefile ?
[12:15] <keherman> ucordes, i want to party!!
[12:15] <livevil> vlc, sorry
[12:15] <gnomefreak> livevil: they are not the same
[12:15] <ucordes> ^^ hehe
[12:15] <gnomefreak> livevil: enable universe repo
[12:15] <keherman> are there any Dapper release parties!!?
[12:15] <odjay> how can I avoid scan of disk at boot time
[12:15] <nbx909> yes
[12:15] <nbx909> i
[12:15] <Seveas> !parties
[12:15] <ucordes> sure in my house
[12:16] <ubotu> Seveas: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:16] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell livevil -about universe
[12:16] <nbx909> lol
[12:16] <keherman> odjay, what kind of scan?
[12:16] <livevil> I know
[12:16] <Seveas> !parties is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseParties
[12:16] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[12:16] <mysyfy> hi..how can i mount sata drive.... mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 then cd /media/sda1 gives permission denied
[12:16] <kilotango> is ubuntu 6.06 being released at 00:00 UTC or just sometime on the 1st?
[12:16] <livevil> how can be enabled?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> livevil: if you enable it than run apt-get update than install it
[12:16] <nbx909> kilotango, 00:00 utc
[12:16] <S0me1> hi guys
[12:16] <gnomefreak> livevil: look in your pm for instruction
[12:16] <odjay> well basically when I boot my livecd I use the persistent flag and the boot faile with an error at /dev/sde drive or something
[12:16] <czambran> kilotango, seveas told us that it will probably be released in 10 hours.
[12:16] <keherman> ok now for a cooler ubotu question!!!
[12:16] <keherman> !panties
[12:16] <ubotu> keherman: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:16] <kilotango> nbx909: thanks
[12:17] <Seveas> kilotango, it will be released in 12-18 hours most likely
[12:17] <gnomefreak> keherman: please dont play with thte bot
[12:17] <Seveas> definitely NOT on 0:00 UTC
[12:17] <ice-t> omg, i am utc -1, i have to wait an other hour
[12:17] <ice-t> not?
[12:17] <livevil> ok
[12:17] <czambran> Seveas, no it is 18 hours
[12:17] <ucordes> oh i think i'm takin a trip to stuttgart tomorrow
[12:17] <ekelund> just a question does 6.06 contain xgl?
[12:17] <nbx909> Seveas, really?
[12:17] <mysyfy> modules libata and sata_sis are already loaded
[12:17] <Seveas> nbx909, yes
[12:17] <keherman> ekelund, not by default
[12:17] <Seveas> just asked the people who push the magic button 
[12:17] <eXistenZ> It is 1/6 here
[12:18] <ekelund> keherman: so apt-get to get it?
[12:18] <nbx909> Seveas, why?
[12:18] <kilotango> there's a magic button? ;)
[12:18] <czambran> Seveas, how come the delay? Will new updated come out?
[12:18] <mysyfy> fdisk -l /dev/sda1 also gives cannot open /dev/sda
[12:18] <Seveas> czambran, which delay?
[12:18] <kspath_> what delay?
[12:18] <Seveas> no one ever said it would be on 0:00
[12:18] <keherman> ekelund, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl
[12:18] <gnomefreak> Seveas: they are getting that from fridge
[12:18] <ruskie_> Howto fix this.
[12:18] <ruskie_> http://pastebin.com/750067
[12:18] <nbx909> Seveas, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/182
[12:18] <lukaswayne9> Will dapper boxes that apt-get update tomorrow be notified about the upgrade?
[12:18] <yct> Seveas, how many people worked on Dapper?
[12:18] <blanky> dappers out tomorrow!
[12:18] <Seveas> fridge sucks, if you say "it's on that date" it automagically says "0:00"
[12:18] <czambran> Seveas, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/182
[12:19] <blanky> right?
[12:19] <kspath_> if it is released 23:59 on June 1st it will still be released June 1st.
[12:19] <mysyfy> cat /proc/scsi/scsi outputs the device
[12:19] <Seveas> yct, indirectly: thousands
[12:19] <blanky> hey guys dapper is out tomorrow right?
[12:19] <Rdde> can anyone help me plz? im trying to install a program called kismet.. there is a install-sh file but I get "no input file selected" when i try to launch it
[12:19] <keherman> ekelund, follow the instructions
[12:19] <sybariten> todayisagift: what happens if you do sudo apt-cache search audacuiousasfcukingspelling
[12:19] <yct> Seveas, i mean, the paid ones
[12:19] <gnomefreak> it will be released when it gets released!
[12:19] <kspath_> !gnomefreak++
[12:19] <Spec> !language
[12:19] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[12:19] <czambran> gnomefreak, that is not the best attitude
[12:20] <czambran> gnomefreak, if you don't want to respond, DON'T
[12:20] <gnomefreak> czambran: its true noone in here has any control over when it is released
[12:20] <mysyfy> someone can help mount a sata hd...
[12:20] <nbx909> Seveas, so when is it going to be released?
[12:20] <kspath_> nbx909: before June 2nd
[12:20] <Seveas> nbx909, sometime june 1st UTC
[12:20] <ucordes> lol
[12:20] <ucordes> what time zone????
[12:20] <Rdde> anyone wanna help me install a program ? =S
[12:20] <ekelund> keherman: thanx maybe will try it someday. what time is the release says less than 24h
[12:20] <ucordes> that's the big question
[12:20] <Spec> UTC
[12:20] <czambran> ucordes, UTC!
[12:20] <Spec> !UTC
[12:20] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Spec
[12:20] <ucordes> ok, i see
[12:21] <Polypterus> GMT 00:00 is what I've heard
[12:21] <keherman> would people pay like $10 for up to 15 minutes of Uubuntu support?
[12:21] <sybariten> i just cant understand why people want to know if its released in 14 or 18 hours? Do they have clients that are terrible dependent on this specific release or "what-the-fuss?"
[12:21] <odjay> keherman - well basically when I boot my livecd I use the persistent flag and the boot faile with an error at /dev/sde drive or something
[12:21] <Spec> damn, maybe i was hit by a windmill
[12:21] <nbx909> Seveas, will it be a sane hour? edt
[12:21] <Spec> 10$ for 15 minutes?
[12:21] <nbx909> lol
[12:21] <Spec> that's pretty steep
[12:21] <Rdde> noone? =(
[12:21] <ucordes> sybariten my client really depends on
[12:21] <keherman> Spec, $5 ?
[12:21] <czambran> sybariten, that we are all looking forward to see how the final release behaves
[12:21] <Doso> sybariten: Well basicly I got nothing else to do and i want to use daper drake to do my final Windows -> Linux switch ~~
[12:21] <odjay> keherman - otherwise without peristent flag (to save session on usb pen) my dapper work very well
[12:21] <ucordes> im my own client
[12:21] <ucordes> ^^
[12:21] <Seveas> ok people, cut the dapper release talk. It will NOT be released in 40 minutes so please stop the speculation
[12:21] <Polypterus> Thought this channel had to be packed and active now :)
[12:21] <keherman> Rdde, what program?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> if your that hard up for dapper get the daily image and do the 1 update that it has poof your than on stable
[12:22] <kspath_> !Seveas++
[12:22] <ucordes> kk sry seveas
[12:22] <ajmitch_> Seveas: itchy trigger finger yet?
[12:22] <odjay> I love Ubuntu :-)
[12:22] <eric> Seveas when WILL it be released??
[12:22] <Rdde> keherman, trying to install a program called kismet.. unpacked it and there is a install-sh but I dont know what to do now
[12:22] <sybariten> ok so appearently people rely on this release to be some sort of messias of the operating systems
[12:22] <Seveas> ajmitch_, that and a handful of quick-fire aliases
[12:22] <gnomefreak> eric: dont
[12:22] <kspath_> eric: Before June 2nd.
[12:22] <sleepe1> hi ppl! i need help!   how can i downgrade nvidia-glx ?
[12:22] <czambran> eric,  he already said sometime June 1st.
[12:22] <ajmitch_> eric: don't bother asking, please
[12:22] <keherman> Rdde, why dont you install it from APT instead?
[12:23] <keherman> Rdde, $ aptitude install kismet
[12:23] <eric> OK OK
[12:23] <ucordes> gnomefreak, so it's no big difference to the last image?
[12:23] <Sharjeel> hi
[12:23] <eric> gnomefreak don't what ???
[12:23] <Rdde> keherman,  omg.. thanks mate =)
[12:23] <keherman> Rdde, or go into Synaptic Package Manager
[12:23] <odjay> someone have a full list of the boot command available for Ubuntu livecd
[12:23] <sybariten> uhm, what is /etc/login.defs ??
[12:23] <Sharjeel> is there any difrence betwen the livecd and the install?
[12:23] <Sharjeel> which should i DL?
[12:23] <czambran> Seveas, could you put that the release is not going to happen a 00:00:00 June 1st on the title?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> ucordes: the final iso isnt gonna have final stamped on it and they stopped devel yesterday iirc
[12:23] <abeck> how do I install tight vnc on my system to avoid the hacks in real vnc?
[12:23] <keherman> sybariten, part of LSB ?
[12:24] <sybariten> keherman: *swoosh*
[12:24] <czambran> Seveas,  thank u
[12:24] <kspath_> at ?
[12:24] <Seveas> 
[12:24] <sybariten> keherman: (a gesture to illustrate that its above my head)
[12:24] <kspath_> !Seveas++
[12:24] <visik7> Seveas: have you removed java from your dapper repo ?
[12:24] <kspath_> gnomefreak: I agree but it is something perhaps.
[12:24] <Seveas> visik7, no
[12:24] <czambran> gnomefreak, if somebody asks, then u can quickly tell them
[12:24] <czambran> read the title
[12:25] <sleepe1> hi ppl! i need help!   how can i downgrade nvidia-glx ?
[12:25] <keherman> sybariten, Linux Standards Base
[12:25] <sleepe1> anybody?
[12:25] <s|k> er
[12:25] <Seveas> visik7, it's replaced with dummy packages depending on the ones in the Ubuntu archives
[12:25] <nbx909> seveas it's only 22:24 zulu lol
[12:25] <visik7> Seveas: is there some reason or what ?
[12:25] <visik7> Seveas: oh ok
[12:25] <s|k> what's the irc channel for the forums?
[12:25] <visik7> :)
[12:25] <sybariten> keherman: hmm
[12:25] <keherman> sybariten, meant to make the platforms similar in defined ways so that software can be compatible across multiple distrivutions
[12:25] <Seveas> nbx909, yes 90 minutes more of "is it going to be at 0:00" crap
[12:25] <gnomefreak> s|k: #ubuntu-forums i think   maybe without the -
[12:25] <kspath_> !tell s|k about forum
[12:25] <keherman> are we there yet?
[12:25] <tarvid> which package displays the contents of gnu dbm files
[12:26] <HellDragon> 1337 is the language of the future
[12:26] <s|k> kspath_: it doesn't have the channel name
[12:26] <kspath_> HellDragon: of unemployement?
[12:26] <yct> am I the only one waiting for Drake here?:)
[12:26] <Sharjeel> lol
[12:26] <livevil> thank', it seems to work, I'm installing fire starter too
[12:26] <Polypterus> l337 is f*cking stupid
[12:26] <czambran> yct, we all are
[12:26] <jorgp> is it musicbrainz or tunepimp that has the mp3 disabled
[12:26] <nbx909> Seveas, then you get the where is it?!?!?!?
[12:26] <Sharjeel> 0001-0011-0011-0111
[12:26] <kspath_> yct: Dapper will be released before June 2nd.
[12:26] <ucordes> wtf is 1317?
[12:26] <s|k> kspath_: they deleted all my dapper posts today, and I think everyone elses
[12:26] <Sharjeel> is the language of future;)
[12:26] <ucordes> 1337 ^^
[12:27] <Seveas> s|k, wtf
[12:27] <livevil> DO you need something more for internet security over firestarter
[12:27] <kspath_> s|k: "they" a conspiracy?
[12:27] <gnomefreak> ucordes: crap is what it is IMHO
[12:27] <Seveas> forums really are ruled by crappy idiots I guess
[12:27] <livevil> do you think I need something else for internet security, over firestarter?
[12:27] <sybariten> keherman: ok ... i have appearently changed mine since installing ubuntu, and now when upgrading versions, there is a "newer" version or something and apt asks me if i want to upgrade the file or not
[12:27] <czambran> Seveas, why do you say that?
[12:27] <kspath_> livevil: clue is good for security,
[12:27] <gnomefreak> if you write code to have a number/name and not do it for yourself or to help others its not worth a crap
[12:27] <Seveas> czambran, deleting posts is SO not done
[12:28] <[zero] > Anyone know why when I boot up ubuntu it just restarts?
[12:28] <czambran> Seveas, ohh that, my bad
[12:28] <ucordes> nikomedia was captured by sultan orhan in 1st in 1337
[12:28] <livevil> wht's clue kspath_?
[12:28] <odjay> sorry to ask but dapper 6.06 that I current run is what ? what is going to be released very soon the final ... the one I got is a rc2
[12:28] <BSDinux> how can i temporarily deactivate gnome? i want to start X11 without gnome, but i can't find the /etc/rc.conf on my ubuntu box...
[12:28] <gnomefreak> odjay: june 1st
[12:28] <yct> kspath_, I know there's hours to release, but this is the place to be at:)
[12:28] <ucordes> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC!
[12:28] <kspath_> livevil: I think there will be some information on securing ubuntu at ubuntu sites. General linux security howtos are everywhere.
[12:28] <ucordes> lol
[12:28] <RandolphCarter> gah, 0.00 BST? :D
[12:28] <hollywoodb> odjay: if you stay current with apt-get or synaptic you'll basically be running the same thing as dapper stable
[12:29] <Mysta_> i think i've tried to run apt-get / aptitude too many times. now it says theres a lock. how do i remove this LOCK???
[12:29] <Seveas> Mysta_, the safest way is to reboot
[12:29] <Sharjeel> 1111-0000-1100    0001-0011-0011-0111
[12:29] <yct> kspath_, I could install RC and update, but this is the event; i'm happy
[12:29] <Sharjeel> :)
[12:29] <gnomefreak> Mysta_: i didnt they there was a number of times
[12:29] <Seveas> Sharjeel, stop it
[12:29] <kspath_> livevil: firestarter is only a firewall and only the tip of basic security. a firewall can not prevent problems by itself.
[12:29] <Sharjeel> soz
[12:29] <czambran> I didn't even know, you could get lock out
[12:29] <aleksand1r> anyone knows the difference between 'sudo update-manager -d' from the console and 'gksudo update-manager -d'? the latter doesn't show the option to upgrade to dapper - strange
[12:29] <livevil> ok, sorry for the stupid question
[12:29] <darich> the Dapper update broke my networking...and borked my fglrx driver
[12:29] <Mysta_> gnomefreak: im not sure i understand your last comment
[12:29] <Sharjeel> dint mean to be rude seveas but i doent likel337 lingo:D
[12:29] <darich> but I fixed it
[12:29] <Seveas> aleksand1r, gksudo "update-manager -d
[12:30] <darich> so it's all good
[12:30] <Seveas> "
[12:30] <Seveas> with the ""
[12:30] <erus`> i cant get radeon 9800 pro 3d to work on ubuntu
[12:30] <erus`> please help
[12:30] <kspath_> livevil: Not really a stupid question. It is something you can answer for yourself by doing research.
[12:30] <gnomefreak> Mysta_: i didnt know there was a lock when you used apt-get or aptitude too many times
[12:30] <ucordes> darich: i also broke my system with the update
[12:30] <_clem> hey !! Dapper was released. There's a leak on one of the Czech mirrors !!
[12:30] <aleksand1r> thanks @seveas
[12:30] <Rdde> keherman, have you ever used the program ? kismet?
[12:30] <Sharjeel> hey does ubuntu come with the nvidia driver or will i have to install it?
[12:30] <Mysta_> gnomefreak: sorry, i assumed that.
[12:30] <_clem> ahh.. na.. I was only kidding :)
[12:30] <ucordes> clem? lol
[12:30] <blah> how do i remove a user in terminal
[12:30] <keherman> erus`, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:30] <czambran> _clem, I wouldn't trust it
[12:30] <hollywoodb> Mysta_: gnomefreak: there's a lock when either synaptic, aptitude, or apt-get processes are currently running
[12:30] <erus`> followed that but still no worky
[12:30] <Seveas> blah, sudo deluser $USERNAME
[12:30] <keherman> Rdde, i was at H2K2 when it was released!
[12:31] <BSDinux> can someone enlightenme on where the X11 autostart happens in ubuntu? i want to deactivate gnome temporarily and automatically run a program when X11 starts
[12:31] <Mysta_> hollywoodb: what is the name of the process?
[12:31] <gnomefreak> hollywoodb: yes but we werent talking about that
[12:31] <gnomefreak> Mysta_: apt
[12:31] <Mysta_> thx
[12:31] <Rdde> keherman, what dose that mean? =P
[12:31] <aleksand1r> checked it - works with brackets
[12:31] <gnomefreak> Mysta_: if synaptic is open apt wont run because it uses apt
[12:31] <keherman> Rdde, it means I've used it for a very long time :-)
[12:31] <keherman> Rdde, H2K2 is a 'hacker' conference
[12:31] <darich> really ucordes
[12:31] <hollywoodb> gnomefreak: I'm aware, but if it could be a hanging process from one of the many times it was run, causing the lock to remain in place
[12:31] <your_mom> whats the apt-get to install xorg again
[12:31] <gnomefreak> hollywoodb: true
[12:31] <your_mom> i messed up x
[12:32] <mutante> Rdde: if you | the output of kismet to "festival" ,you can put on headphones and close the laptop while walking around and be notified of new networks
[12:32] <your_mom> and cant load to gnome
[12:32] <Mysta_> gnomefreak: im using no X, straight console
[12:32] <aleksand1r> is 1,8 GB free space on my / enough to upgrade to dapper?
[12:32] <keherman> mutante, i love festival!
[12:32] <gnomefreak> Mysta_: ok than check on ps aux
[12:32] <keherman> aleksand1r, yep
[12:32] <keherman> aleksand1r, many files will be overwritten
[12:32] <_clem> it happened for FC5 though, and as I remember there were leaks on SUSE10.1 as well. People became to go crazy just before the release. Fedora had given a precise time 2pm GMT it was crazy on some forums :)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> Mysta_: do you have gui running on another tty?
[12:32] <lmh> hi all, have trouble getting my wlan adapter to work (centrino)
[12:32] <BSDinux> can someone enlightenme on where the X11 autostart happens in ubuntu? i want to deactivate gnome temporarily and automatically run a program when X11 starts
[12:32] <aleksand1r> thanks keherman ;)
[12:33] <SurfnKid> hey how can i create a FN+KEY for a specific command
[12:33] <luis_> will dapper REALLY be released in an hour? (according to 'the fridge')
[12:33] <p_mash> is there an utility wiht ububtu to monitor network traffic ? ie the bandwidth etc ...
[12:33] <gnomefreak> luis_: no
[12:33] <Seveas> luis_, /topic
[12:33] <Fillado> dammit i can't decided between KDE of Gnome for Dapper :(
[12:33] <czambran> luis_, read the title of the forum
[12:33] <yct> i dont like FC for not supporting ReiserFS
[12:33] <Mysta_> gnomefreak: haven't figured out how to do that yet. i ran ps aux, whats the diff between that and top?
[12:33] <Beginer> I have some problems with Live CD booting so I have one stupid question to ask.When I download Ubuntu should I unpack rar archive and than burn it on a CD or not?
[12:33] <Rdde> keherman, heavy! well it wont start.. can i post the message to you in private?
[12:33] <kspath_> luis_: Dapper will be released before June 2nd.
[12:33] <hollywoodb> Fillado: xubuntu !
[12:33] <SurfnKid> !fn
[12:33] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid
[12:33] <Fastly> i added the apt source: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main so that i can upgrade amarok to 1.4... now it doesn't autodetect my ipod..:
[12:33] <lmh> can't send a ping over wlan although it tells me i'm connected
[12:33] <Fastly> No new media devices were found. If you feel this is an error, ensure that the DBUS and HAL daemons are running and KDE was built with support for them. You can test this by running "dcop kded mediamanager fullList" in a Konsole window.
[12:33] <ruskie_> Beginer: burn it as a iso
[12:33] <aleksand1r> luis_ , even less
[12:33] <Mysta_> Beginer: download the ISO, and then burn it
[12:33] <keherman> Rdde, k
[12:33] <gnomefreak> Mysta_: top gives you more info and it changes alot more
[12:33] <_clem> yct: yeah.. they kind of officially chose ext3...
[12:33] <lmh> anyone an idea?
[12:33] <Mysta_> gnomefreak: ok
[12:33] <bkanuka> my usb cdrom will ot work
[12:33] <luis_> ok, thanks everyone
[12:34] <Fillado> hollywoodb: xubuntu? :D
[12:34] <hollywoodb> Mysta_: if you like top you'll love htop
[12:34] <_clem> lmh: then it's lying !!! :(
[12:34] <bkanuka> ive been trying ffor days
[12:34] <Fastly> what's the best way of adding dbus and hal from the dapper kubuntu sources?
[12:34] <aleksand1r> 26 min. to dapper release ;)
[12:34] <hollywoodb> Filbert: Xfce instead of KDE or Gnome
[12:34] <weierstrass> hi there. i have a problem. when i installed ubuntu i forgot to make a swap partition. the system boots and everything, but what's the easiest way to repartition and fix this?
[12:34] <yct> _clem, I've seen benchmarks and stuff, but in my own experience i can't stand anything else than reiser.. didn't tried xfs though
[12:34] <MTecknology> Installed Dapper and restored my firefox profile. I restored it from a Windows profile and it actually worked. Only problem is that when I try to play a flash game, it gets stuck in a loop and eventually closes ff, when I try to use a java applet, it just closes ff while loading. - i doubt this is dapper specific
[12:34] <Seveas> aleksand1r, last warning.
[12:34] <SurfnKid> does anyone knowh ow to create a FN KEY for a specific command
[12:34] <Fillado> ah
[12:34] <czambran> aleksand1r, read the title
[12:34] <kspath_> aleksand1r: Dapper will be released before June 2nd.
[12:34] <lmh> ifconfig tells me it's up and connected, already has an address, but still i can't ping /surf
[12:34] <czambran> * See how easy it is
[12:34] <ucordes> proteinblob
[12:34] <Mysta_> hollywoodb: htop - "command not found" ?
[12:34] <Seveas> next one to ask when dapper will be released gets larted
[12:34] <lmh> destination host unreachable
[12:35] <kspath_> Mysta_: apt-get install htop
[12:35] <hollywoodb> Mysta_: yeah, you'll have to install it once apt is working
[12:35] <_clem> yct: I like reiserfs myself, even though I don't really know why :) I used to be a slackware fan, and Patrick loved Reiserfs... I guess I got that from him.. I don't know much about FS though.
[12:35] <Mysta_> lol ok
[12:35] <Beginer> I have downoladed it and its archive that can be opend with winrar.
[12:35] <czambran> Seveas, thanks for letting us know
[12:35] <lmh> nobody?
[12:35] <czambran> ;)
[12:35] <fapema1> 
[12:35] <fapema1> pl
[12:35] <Seveas> kspath_, thanks for mentioning htop 
[12:35] <fapema1> kl] 
[12:35] <sybariten> larted, thats a new one
[12:35] <Doso> Seveas: Do you happen to know when Daper will be re... ah nm :] 
[12:35] <_clem> lmh : are you using DHCP ?
[12:35] <yct> _clem, I'm on Fedora now, and hitting the "Start" button first time after start is just too much like Windows, the HDD goes wrrrrrrrrrr
[12:35] <czambran> Doso, :-D
[12:35] <Mysta_> hollywoodb: ok, so i found the process. is it just kill PID, replacing PID w/ the commands PID
[12:35] <bkanuka> can anyone help with this? "device descriptor read/64, error -110"
[12:36] <lmh> _clem: yes
[12:36] <_clem> yct: I'm on SUSE 10.1 myself :)
[12:36] <Doso> (:
[12:36] <sutur> in germany ist already june 1st ;)
[12:36] <_clem> lmh: do you need DHCP ?
[12:36] <hollywoodb> Mysta_: yep
[12:36] <kspath_> sutur: Dapper will be released before June 2nd.
[12:36] <lmh> no, already tried without, same prob
[12:36] <RandolphCarter> lmh: could you paste 'ifconfig -a' and 'netstat -r'
[12:36] <Aven> hey
[12:36] <yct> _clem, but my Fedora knows these are the last hours of it :p
[12:36] <lmh> but dhcp gives me an ip
[12:36] <Aven> who runs evolution?
[12:37] <Seveas> ah, the peace and quietness 
[12:37] <Seveas> btw: blame ajmitch_, he suggested it 
[12:37] <SurfnKid> Seveas whoa nice smiley dude
[12:37] <RandolphCarter> lmh: to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ;)
[12:37] <crazybob> anyone know if the forums will open a dapper section?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:37] <bkanuka> device descriptor read/64, error -110.........???
[12:37] <bkanuka> please
[12:37] <_clem> yct: well.. I need to write a "month with Suse 10.1" article... so unfortunately my good laptop is taken... I'm gonna have to install Ubuntu on another machine in the meantime :((
[12:38] <BSDinux> does noone know how to temporarily remove gnome from startx?
[12:38] <_clem> I'm a Kubuntu user myself... but it happens sometimes, I need to make space to test other stuff.. :)
[12:38] <Aven> who runs evolution?
[12:38] <SurfnKid> Aven me
[12:38] <Rdde> keherman, did you get it?
[12:38] <Aven> how do I export outlook settings into evolution? :\
[12:38] <Aven> like...
[12:38] <Aven> the file has all the settings
[12:38] <SurfnKid> connection settings
[12:38] <Mysta_> hollywoodb: thanks it worked, now i'm gonna run sudo apt-get install htop
[12:39] <sybariten> hm, this process that apt does after downloading the very dist-upgrade ... i mean, after downloading the hundreds of megabytes....  does it take a long time? should i be prepared for an hour of HD-chewing, or is it like ten minutes ?
[12:39] <Seveas> sybariten, closer to an hour than to ten minutes
[12:39] <Beginer> When I download Ubuntu shoul I only burn that one file or should I extract it and than burn it?
[12:39] <bkanuka> Aven: what version outlook?
[12:39] <Seveas> depending on how many packages you installed
[12:39] <Aven> bkanuka: newest :P
[12:39] <keherman> Rdde,my user name is not registered here
[12:39] <Mysta_> Beginer: just burn the ISO to disk
[12:39] <sybariten> Seveas: holy crap ....
[12:39] <_clem> Beginer: burn it directly.
[12:39] <Aven> SurfnKid: where's connection settings? :P
[12:39] <keherman> Rdde, guess i see your msgs but you cant see mine
[12:39] <keherman> hodl on
[12:39] <H080J03> how do i configure keyboard short cuts, so when i press crtl+alt+p it will print the screen
[12:40] <SurfnKid> oh
[12:40] <bkanuka> Aven: sorry
[12:40] <lmh> RandolphCarter: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14934
[12:40] <Beginer> Thanks Mysta_
[12:40] <RandolphCarter> thanks lmh
[12:40] <Aven> bkanuka: sorry what? :P
[12:40] <SurfnKid> Aven Edit/Preferences
[12:40] <Mysta_> hello RandolphCarter!
[12:40] <keherman> Rdde, cant -- just read the kismet README
[12:40] <aleksand1r> H080J03: why not use one key PrtSc?
[12:40] <bkanuka> Aven: oh lol didnt know if u got those...i dont think u can
[12:40] <RandolphCarter> lmh: could you do 'netstat -r' too?
[12:40] <H080J03> beacuse it doesn't work
[12:40] <Aven> SurfnKid: I meant where I can put the outlook file
[12:40] <SurfnKid> That'll get you to Mail Accounts.  Not sure if you can import mail settings, maybe you can
[12:40] <Aven> ah
[12:40] <RandolphCarter> hey Mysta_ :)
[12:40] <H080J03> i am looking thur the config edtior for it, but i can't find a keyboard schort cut
[12:41] <kermitX_> screenshot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14935
[12:41] <lmh> RandolphCarter: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14936
[12:41] <RandolphCarter> lmh: which of those two NICs do you want to access the net through btw?
[12:41] <livevil> I've installe dfirestarted,do i nedd to reeboot my machine to use it, or is it avaiable in other way?
[12:41] <bkanuka> Aven: what do u want in evolution the most?
[12:41] <aleksand1r> H080J03: might need some more advanced hacking
[12:41] <Aven> bkanuka: email :P
[12:41] <bkanuka> Aven: like addresses?
[12:41] <Mysta_> RandolphCarter: I dont know if you remember my problem w/ the Radeon 7000, but I had to end up changing the driver again to vesa :(, but the server is for vmware so thats cool
[12:41] <Aven> getting my email configured
[12:41] <H080J03> hmm so how would i go about it
[12:42] <lmh> RandolphCarter: at the moment to be able to ssh and paste the text in the box, i use the lan-nic.
[12:42] <tarzeau> it's out already?
[12:42] <Rastas> 800 people
[12:42] <bkanuka> oh well to configue it just wrie down the settings
[12:42] <lmh> RandolphCarter: but i want to be able to use both
[12:42] <Mysta_> 846 people
[12:42] <aleksand1r> H080J03: can't help - beginner myself
[12:42] <ompaul> Seveas, if I have anything in there kill it :-
[12:42] <bkanuka> there cant be that many
[12:42] <ompaul> :-)
[12:42] <BSDinux> does noone know how to temporarily remove gnome from startx?
[12:42] <rob_p> BSDinux: 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove' should do it.
[12:42] <dra> Guess I ought to sleep instead of waiting for the release. Thanks alot in advance everybody involved!
[12:42] <Seveas> ompaul, I'm tempted to /cs clear bans
[12:42] <dra> nite
[12:42] <sybariten> crappers, i want progress bars gdammit! everything in life should have progress bars!!
[12:42] <BSDinux> thx
[12:42] <keherman> Rdde, i forget my password with this id -- i usually use khermans
[12:42] <ompaul> Seveas, let me check them
[12:42] <H080J03> i know the command line for takeing a screen shot, but i just need to set the configure the keyboard short cuts to do that command
[12:43] <keherman> Rdde, this is my default id at school
[12:43] <tarzeau> sybariten: i disagree
[12:43] <yct> _clem, what would be the overall opinion on suse? i tried it in past (3-4 yrs back), was pretty impressive
[12:43] <keherman> Rdde, so i cant priv msg you sorry
[12:43] <gnomefreak> Seveas: in #ubuntu+1?
[12:43] <aleksand1r> BSDinux: you mean remove gdm?
[12:43] <djib> hey
[12:43] <djib> I'm trying to update to dapper but when I do a dist-upgrade apt want to get rid of loads of packages like eclipse, amarok, ...
[12:43] <Seveas> gnomefreak, just did it there 
[12:43] <sybariten> tarzeau: yeah but you arent dist-upgrading
[12:43] <RandolphCarter> lmh: they're both connected to the same network though? you'll need to setup the routing table
[12:43] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:43] <djib> why, and how can I avoid that ?
[12:43] <tarzeau> sybariten: yes i do sometimes
[12:43] <BSDinux> i only want to stop gdm/gnome from starting when x starts.. and i want to add another programm instead (no daemon)
[12:43] <sybariten> Seveas: what the kufc was with that smiley???!
[12:43] <Rdde> keherman,  did you get my msg? someghing about package source? is that the network card? =S
[12:43] <BSDinux> i'll try the rc-remove thing
[12:44] <BSDinux> and add the prog in xsessions.d
[12:44] <tarzeau> sybariten: why does it matter if you do it in a gnu screen?
[12:44] <bkanuka> has anyone seen this with usb device!? " device descriptor read/64, error -110"
[12:44] <keherman> Rdde, i sent you many message in here
[12:44] <ompaul> Seveas, that might not be tje best idea
[12:44] <SurfnKid> !tell Aven about Outlook
[12:44] <iverylm> Hello room.  Has 6.06 been released?
[12:44] <tarzeau> iverylm: see /topic
[12:44] <gnomefreak> ompaul: it looks like sagan stays
[12:44] <lmh> RandolphCarter: yes, they're both connected to the same net. what i'd like to do is being able to use the "places"-function under gnome-network - settings: switch between home-lan / home-wlan
[12:44] <Seveas> iverylm, /topic
[12:44] <keherman> Rdde, http://kerneltrap.org/node/5414
[12:44] <sybariten> tarzeau: huh ?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> ompaul: if you check +1 they are still there
[12:44] <kspath_> iverylm: Dapper will be released before June 2nd.
[12:45] <aleksand1r> BSDinux: i'd try to remove gdm or hash it in one of the /etc/rc.d catalogues
[12:45] <keherman> Rdde, http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/3595531
[12:45] <djib> can someone tell me why dist-upgrade wants to get rid of all those packages and how I can avoid that ?
[12:45] <Mysta_> wow, htop ROX!
[12:45] <ompaul> for +1 I think it safe to  kill them that will be closed ..
[12:45] <gnomefreak> djib: all what packages?
[12:45] <Mysta_> lol, im a noob
[12:45] <aleksand1r> but i guess you can't be a newbie to attempt it
[12:45] <kspath_> Mysta_: apt-cache search rox
[12:45] <RandolphCarter> lmh: that should be relatively easy, just don't have both interfaces up at the same time
[12:45] <BSDinux> i'll try that now, thanks
[12:45] <_clem> yct: I loved it myself, I reviewed it here : http://www.linuxforums.org/reviews/review_of_suse_10.1.html It's more like an overview though... I didn't go in the innards of things. I got criticized a lot for that, and a lot of people seem enclined to say that SUSE and Fedora are shit because they see it as the new "linux standards".. the whole anti-windows crap and all..
[12:45] <RandolphCarter> lmh: for home-lan disable eth1, and from home-wan disable eth0
[12:46] <Mysta_> kspath_: what was that?
[12:46] <keherman> RandolphCarter, is that you Doug?
[12:46] <kspath_> Mysta_:  something interesting
[12:46] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell _clem -about language
[12:46] <RandolphCarter> keherman: nope :/
[12:46] <keherman> nm, lol
[12:46] <Rdde> keherman, thanks mate
[12:46] <djib> gnomefreak: I want to dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper. I updated my source.list and when I do a dist upgrade, it tells me that 253 packages will be removes, including some like Eclipse that I use all the time
[12:46] <bkanuka> please i have no cd rom and need it tonight
[12:46] <_clem> ah come on....
[12:46] <RandolphCarter> :P
[12:46] <_clem> ok sorry..
[12:46] <keherman> Rdde, no problem
[12:46] <SurfnKid> slapping around rules
[12:47] <h3h_timo> does anyone know why my ram wouldnt be compatible... it is the same type of ram that i have now.. it just wont boot with my computer
[12:47] <lmh> RandolphCarter: thanks, tried that b4, didn't work, now it miracolusly works. Great, Thanks!
[12:47] <keherman> h3h_timo, bad slot?
[12:47] <g0dchild> hid3, all, I have a lotta stuff downloaded and as expectd, the /var partition is now full
[12:47] <bkanuka> my dmesg says " device descriptor read/64, error -110" I dont know what else is wrong
[12:47] <keherman> h3h_timo, you busted it jamming it in!??!
[12:47] <RandolphCarter> lmh: np's :)
[12:47] <g0dchild> is it possible to have apt-get to look up from a local server/aka a folder on another partition of the same PC?
[12:47] <h3h_timo> no... its the same exact kind... i didnt bust it either
[12:47] <charle97> hello
[12:47] <_clem> yct: rug is great as well (the package manager). It's still very slow compared to APT though.
[12:48] <h3h_timo> i tried both sticks in both scots
[12:48] <bkanuka> hello
[12:48] <amphi> hello
[12:48] <_clem> yct: I think Fedora and Suse should really look at Ubuntu and learn from the APT advantages.
[12:48] <eXistenZ_> we need ubuntu 6 =|
[12:48] <_clem> yct: also, it wouldn't harm Ubuntu to look at what's done in FC and SUSE as regards to integration and look and feel.
[12:49] <LinuxJones> g0dchild, apt-get clean
[12:49] <djib> gnomefreak: any idea ?
[12:49] <charle97> what would be the best way to download 6.06 when released?
[12:49] <kspath_> eXistenZ_: dapper will be released before June 2nd.
[12:49] <_clem> yct: and finally... enough of these customized kernels ... they annoy so many people who don't care about the features they offer...
[12:49] <gnomefreak> djib: if you look in the installing new packages you should see them
[12:50] <g0dchild> LinuxJones, no- thats not it, i dont want to lose any one of those downloaded packages- short of bandwidth...but i'd like apt-get to look up from a local repo- if thats posible
[12:50] <gnomefreak> djib: alot of name changes have happened in dapper
[12:50] <djib> gnomefreak: ok, I'll have a look
[12:50] <h3h_timo> !tell
[12:50] <_clem> charle97: I suppose there'll be a torrent link. Otherwise you can rely on the FTP mirrors.
[12:50] <hyphenated> charle97: bittorrent, would be the nicest way for everyone, but it'll use more bandwidth overall. alternatively, downloading from a mirror that is within your country or close to it
[12:50] <SurfnKid> someone pleaaase help me set up FN keys
[12:50] <charle97> _clem and hyphenated, ty
[12:50] <LinuxJones> g0dchild, you mean like one closer to where you live ?
[12:51] <h3h_timo> tell me about dapper
[12:51] <h3h_timo> tell h3h_timo about dapper
[12:51] <jhenn> how can i use my palm pilot with ubuntu?
[12:51] <nbx909> kspath_, what? june 2nd?
[12:51] <g0dchild> LinuxJones, no...i really dont know how to explain it- ok, have it this way- i need to know how i can serve packages off http- on localhost
[12:51] <sugyi> the best way to download dapper is to use torrents, cos this way u leave the servers space for living, cos many people is going to download dapper
[12:51] <kspath_> jhenn: apt-cache search palm
[12:51] <amphi> SurfnKid: what do you mean?
[12:51] <hollerith> how do you upgrade from breezy  to dapper
[12:51] <exhale> !upgrade
[12:51] <ubotu> well, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[12:52] <LinuxJones> g0dchild, ohh hit google for apt-proxy howto
[12:52] <jhenn> kspath_: says gnome-pilot is installed but i don't know how to invoke it
[12:52] <sugyi> PLEASE USE TORRENTS TO DOWNLOAD DAPPER
[12:52] <gnomefreak> hollerith: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[12:52] <g0dchild> LinuxJones, thx
[12:52] <LinuxJones> g0dchild, GL
[12:52] <SurfnKid> amphi yea like I want to run a program with a special FN key, a quick shortcut to get there
[12:52] <gnomefreak> sugyi: please drop the caps
[12:52] <Flannel> hollerith: once it's released, it update manager will prompt you for a dist upgrade, if I understand correctly.
[12:52] <amphi> SurfnKid: depends on the wm
[12:52] <LinuxJones> g0dchild, Dapper .torrent is up somewhere ?
[12:52] <livevil> someone can explain me how to use firestarter?
[12:52] <Kyral> !dapper
[12:52] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[12:52] <sugyi> gnomefreak oh sorry
[12:52] <SurfnKid> tell me how to check which wm im on
[12:52] <bkanuka> please help me with my cd drive
[12:53] <Chris_Tucker> !dapper
[12:53] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[12:53] <amphi> SurfnKid: I use openbox, but I expect you are using gnome
[12:53] <bkanuka> i've really lookied everywhere
[12:53] <jhenn> how can i use my palm pilot with ubuntu?
[12:53] <SurfnKid> yes, now how can i switch to sawfish or openbox
[12:53] <rubso> where is my ubuntu 6 ?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> SurfnKid: look in the menu for about "something" or help
[12:53] <Flannel> !tell jhenn about palm
[12:53] <djib> jhenn: -> add pilot applet in your taskbar
[12:53] <Seveas> WOOHOO!!!
[12:53] <pEtErZ> How do i launch a shell on ubuntu?
[12:53] <Seveas> #ubuntu now has more users than #debian 
[12:53] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ?
[12:53] <SurfnKid> mm im looking
[12:53] <djib> gnomefreak: ok, sounds good
[12:53] <RandolphCarter> Seveas: :D
[12:53] <Flannel> Seveas: crazy.
[12:54] <djib> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:54] <rubso> pEtErZ: from Accessories
[12:54] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:54] <Seveas> and only 70 less than #gentoo
[12:54] <sybariten> ok i get lots and lots and lots of perl-errors when doing this dist-upgrade
[12:54] <Seveas> it used to be 70 less than debian and 300 below gentoo 
[12:54] <sybariten> i suspect it has to do with apt, or some other script, being based on perl
[12:54] <djib> Anyone knows when will PLF be available for dapper ?
[12:54] <pycs> is dapper final out yet?
[12:54] <nbx909> NO
[12:54] <ucordes> perl terros
[12:54] <nbx909> see topic
[12:54] <sam__> bkanuka:  what's the problem
[12:54] <[H5N1] > Ubuntu == Gentoo now?
[12:54] <sybariten> the error has to do with locale settings anyhow ... anyone think its fatal ?
[12:54] <[H5N1] > :)
[12:54] <pEtErZ> rubso: terminal?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> Seveas: cant go by that ubuntu has alot of users with 2-3 names in channels at all times :(
[12:54] <rubso> pEtErZ: yes !?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> pycs: no
[12:55] <Mark1412> hi guys
[12:55] <sybariten> perl - warning: setting locale failed
[12:55] <rubso> gnomefreak: then, when?
[12:55] <pycs> oh :(
[12:55] <pEtErZ> rubso: how do i login as root?
[12:55] <Mewshi> it still can't find libxinelc2
[12:55] <ucordes> hi mark
[12:55] <gnomefreak> rubso: when it hits the server
[12:55] <Flannel> !tell pEtErZ about root
[12:55] <Mark1412> where do i download plugins for videos from?
[12:55] <aleksand1r> sudo su -
[12:55] <ucordes> girl
[12:55] <rubso> pEtErZ: sudo
[12:55] <bur[n] er> !tell mark about restrictedformats
[12:55] <_oscar> anyone built kvirc from cvs?
[12:55] <rubso> gnomefreak: ><" i need accurate time ! "WHEN"
[12:55] <ucordes> lol
[12:56] <gnomefreak> rubso: there isnt one
[12:56] <ucordes> oh my gosh they let us hang
[12:56] <SurfnKid> how can i change the WM?
[12:56] <Seveas> gnomefreak, debian too 
[12:56] <SurfnKid> Ive got sawfish installed
[12:56] <SurfnKid> where's the xsession file at
[12:56] <gnomefreak> ahhh than we are doing good ;)
[12:56] <Mark1412> where do i download plugins for videos from?
[12:56] <Flannel> SurfnKid: at the login thing (GDM) change your session.
[12:56] <Mark1412> where do i download plugins for videos from?
[12:56] <aleksand1r> pEtErZ: i always use this command "sudo su -"
[12:57] <kspath_> gnomefreak, Seveas by what definition of good?
[12:57] <SurfnKid> Flannel I only see KDE and GNOME but nothing else
[12:57] <gnomefreak> kspath_: amount of users
[12:57] <Mark1412> where do i download plugins for videos from?
[12:57] <Mark1412> where do i download plugins for videos from?
[12:57] <Mark1412> where do i download plugins for videos from?
[12:57] <SurfnKid> stop that
[12:57] <kspath_> Mark1412: bye
[12:57] <GrumpyPiano> Am I correct in saying that Dapper is out in 5?
[12:57] <Flannel> GrumpyPiano: no.
[12:57] <jhenn> heh
[12:57] <gnomefreak> GrumpyPiano: no
[12:57] <McNutella> lol
[12:58] <GrumpyPiano> Another hour?
[12:58] <Mark1412> ;
[12:58] <livevil> someone can help me with firestarter?
[12:58] <kspath_> Seveas: good idea
[12:58] <exhale> only god knowns
[12:58] <nbx909> GrumpyPiano, midnight utc is another hour
[12:58] <exhale> knows*
[12:58] <gnomefreak> everyone that wants to know when dappers final will be released type /topic   in this channe;l
[12:58] <LiamCrevan> can someone tell me how to disable the tap-to-click thingy of my touchpad? I tried using ksynaptics but the settings are completely ignored...
[12:58] <Seveas> exhale, s/god/sabdfl/
[12:58] <Mysta_> thx guys for ya help. see ya later!
[12:58] <rubso> gnomefreak: i believe dapper drake is going to be in torrents and direct links?
[12:58] <kspath_> Dapper will be released before June 2nd.
[12:58] <jhenn> is dapper going to have any updates when its released if you're already on dapper with all updates?
[12:58] <Seveas> jhenn, no
[12:58] <_clem> LiamCrevan: try synclient
[12:58] <gnomefreak> rubso: it is not released yet adn there is no time stated
[12:58] <rubso> livevil: try ubuntu official forums.
[12:59] <rubso> gnomefreak: lol i'm asking about torrents ubuntu !
[12:59] <livevil> ok
[12:59] <ShadowNova> I installed the ATI driver and the fglrx driver to get my 3d apps working, but now, whenever I run them, I get [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for <Insert Random Word Here> and none of my 3d apps work. What's going on?
[12:59] <Mark1412> where do u get video plugins from!!!!
[12:59] <gnomefreak> rubso: there have always been torrents of ubuntu
[12:59] <kspath_>  /ignore Mark1412
[12:59] <kspath_> sorry
[12:59] <Klaynos> Mark1412: the vidio plugins store?
[12:59] <rubso> Mark1412: Synaptic
[01:00] <Seveas> gnomefreak, /cycle
[01:00] <Seveas> 
[01:00] <aleksand1r> Mark1412: you need win32codecs or sth like that
[01:00] <Mewshi> it still can't find libxinelc2
[01:00] <gnomefreak> holy crap
[01:00] <Seveas> gnomefreak, how'bout that? 
[01:00] <LiamCrevan> how do I get synclient?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> 855
[01:00] <Flannel> 855 people! and none of them ops! amazing!
[01:00] <gnomefreak> omg
[01:00] <_clem> Mark1412: astalavista.box.sk ...tsss.. :(
[01:00] <DShepherd> wow
[01:00] <DShepherd> 856
[01:00] <DShepherd> everyone say hi!
[01:00] <gnomefreak> we havent merged +1 yet either
[01:00] <_clem> LiamCrevan: sudo aptitude search synclient
[01:00] <Seveas> DShepherd, no need to count, we can all see it...
[01:01] <via_strass> hi there. i installed ubuntu but forgot to set up a swap partition. the system boots and works but i would like to know the easiest way to fix this.
[01:01] <joelito> anyone knows when dapper isos will appear?
[01:01] <Flannel> joelito: when it's released.
[01:01] <Seveas> joelito, /topic
[01:01] <kspath_> Dapper will be released before June 2nd.
[01:01] <aleksand1r> via_strass: yes, there is
[01:01] <Mewshi> hello?  Why won't xine show up?
[01:01] <Seveas> kspath_, no need to repeat that 
[01:01] <via_strass> aleksand1r can you tell me what it is?
[01:01] <joelito> lol thanks
[01:01] <LiamCrevan> sudo aptitude search synclient <-- doesn't give any output
[01:01] <aleksand1r> via_strass: do you hava any free partitions on the hd
[01:02] <_clem> kspath_ : you mean before July 2nd ... 00:00:01 am ? (only kidding..) :)
[01:02] <via_strass> no aleksand1r
[01:02] <GrumpyPiano> So in exactly how long will Dapper be released? :-/
[01:02] <Seveas> GrumpyPiano, /topic
[01:02] <gnomefreak> GrumpyPiano: read the topic
[01:02] <aleksand1r> via_strass: so you'll need a livecd
[01:02] <_clem>  LiamCrevan: then you probably have to change your repositories.
[01:02] <aleksand1r> via_strass: do you have one?
[01:02] <ShadowNova> I installed the ATI driver and the fglrx driver to get my 3d apps working, but now, whenever I run them, I get [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for <Insert Random Word Here> and none of my 3d apps work. What's going on?
[01:02] <via_strass> i have a hoary livecd aleksand1r
[01:02] <tanek> is there any program for burning .img images under linux? cant seem to find one, or a way to convert them into .iso
[01:02] <rubso> gnomefreak: they won't stop asking :p less than 24 hours doesn't deliever !
[01:02] <nbx909> tanek, gnomebaker
[01:03] <GrumpyPiano> gnomefreak: ok thanks
[01:03] <kspath_> !Seveas++
[01:03] <cello_rasp> how do i make a backup iso of a dvd i have
[01:03] <rubso> tanek: have you tried the CD/DVD Creator or k3b?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> rubso: there is no time on it please read the /topic
[01:03] <rubso> cello_rasp: mkiso i believe
[01:03] <_clem> kspatjh_ :what's the !username++ thing ? is it just a way of showing your approbation, or does it actually do something ?
[01:03] <Hisakasex> I need help with postfix
[01:03] <Jowi> just to clarify, when dapper is current release will #ubuntu+1 be for eft what it is now for dapper?
[01:04] <aleksand1r> if you have a partitioning tool then resize your paartition to make some space for swap
[01:04] <SurfnKid> oh I need help with postfix too
[01:04] <pericles> In http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ they say that Dapper will be released in 57 minutes!!!
[01:04] <gnomefreak> Jowi: not for a few weeks
[01:04] <gnomefreak> pericles: its wrong
[01:05] <aleksand1r> around 512mb will be enough
[01:05] <Hisakasex> I need to find a tutorial to understand main.cnf
[01:05] <Jowi> gnomefreak: ah ok.
[01:05] <pericles> gnomefreak: why wrong?
[01:05] <aleksand1r> than you'll need to edit the /etc/fstab and add the swap line
[01:05] <gnomefreak> pericles: because it wont be released in 57 minutes
[01:05] <Knorrie> Hisakasex: www.postfix.org has very good documentation
[01:05] <exhale> gnomefreak, how come?
[01:05] <Hisakasex> ok
[01:05] <pericles> gnomefreak: but they say so...
[01:05] <Flannel> SurfnKid: this help? : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaKeys
[01:05] <gnomefreak> Seveas: you care to explain this?
[01:05] <via_strass> thanx aleksand1r am i right in thinking that a swap partition doesn't need formatting?
[01:06] <roostishaw> how do I get my menu to look like this: http://tinyurl.com/e7h6e
[01:06] <roostishaw> I mean the little 'dock' at the bottom
[01:06] <SurfnKid> ok let me check that Flannel thx
[01:06] <gnomefreak> people if you believe everything you see on the web that is your choice but most of it is not true
[01:06] <aleksand1r> i guess it needs
[01:06] <_clem> via_strass : yes.
[01:06] <aleksand1r> there will be an option in the partitioning tool
[01:06] <atzar> does dapper work with ibook airport extreme if i install dapper on my brother's computer ?
[01:06] <gnomefreak> dapper will be released when it hits the servers noone knows when that will be because there is no telling how long it takes to upload or when it is being uploaded
[01:07] <aleksand1r> 1 resize 2 create partition
[01:07] <_clem> via_strass : well it needs formatting the first time I guess...
[01:07] <_clem> via_strass : actually... I don't have a clue :) !!
[01:07] <tanek> rubso: nope, i havent... care to explain? :P
[01:07] <aleksand1r> via_strass: creating partition will need choosing a type of it
[01:07] <aleksand1r> via_strass: choose swap
[01:08] <Flannel> atzar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOnMac
[01:08] <via_strass> hmm i have a copy of paragon partition manager. iirc my livecd of hoary doesn't boot, it just hangs when starting X..
[01:08] <rubso> tanek: go to the Home Folder, i believe in Tools you will find CD/DVD Creator
[01:09] <ea57h3r0> !dapper
[01:09] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install,  or other conversation, dapper will be in #ubuntu starting 1st of june :-) But not until then
[01:09] <aleksand1r> via_strass: if the paragon partition can create swap partition you'll be able to do it
[01:09] <Seveas> !no dapper is <reply> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[01:09] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[01:09] <tanek> ?
[01:10] <DShepherd> Seveas: hehehe
[01:10] <aleksand1r> quit
[01:10] <kspath_> !Seveas++
[01:10] <aleksand1r> exit
[01:10] <Seveas> !karma Seveas
[01:10] <ubotu> seveas has karma of 6
[01:10] <Archville> Hi.
[01:10] <Knorrie> alkalineX: /quit
[01:10] <tanek> rubso: no..
[01:10] <Knorrie> alkalineX: ow sorry
[01:10] <_clem> !karma
[01:10] <ubotu> _clem has neutral karma
[01:10] <Seveas> kspath_, as ou can see we don't use the karma feature a lot
[01:11] <kspath_> hehehe
[01:11] <roostishaw> can GTK 2.0 themes slow down gnome?
[01:11] <L^sse> 50 minutes to Dapper!
[01:11] <Seveas> and I'd appreciate it if it staus that way
[01:11] <alkalineX> wtf
[01:11] <Seveas> L^sse, no
[01:11] <Seveas> !dapper
[01:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[01:11] <Seveas> alkalineX, that was a <tab> error 
[01:11] <Knorrie> alkalineX: i meant aleksand1r
[01:11] <Cas> Seveas: can you pipe to a user? like "!no > Seveas"
[01:11] <Yoric> hi
[01:11] <Knorrie> Cas: pipe == |
[01:11] <Fastly> i just installed amarok 1.4 on ubuntu and now get the following error: No new media devices were found. If you feel this is an error, ensure that the DBUS and HAL daemons are running and KDE was built with support for them. You can test this by running "dcop kded mediamanager fullList" in a Konsole window.
[01:11] <roostishaw> can GTK 2.0 themes slow down gnome?
[01:11] <L^sse> Seveas: ok, i'll to bed then :/
[01:12] <crywolf_3> can someone help me
[01:12] <Seveas> Cas, !tell $user about $factoid
[01:12] <tanek> oh, less than 24hrs
[01:12] <_clem> kspath_ : what's the karma thing ? is it related to the !nick++ ?
[01:12] <tanek> exciting
[01:12] <Fastly> does anyone here know exacty what kubuntu packages are needed?
[01:12] <Yoric> roostishaw, I'm pretty sure they can
[01:12] <Jowi> roostishaw: yes
[01:12] <Flannel> Fastly: you might get more luck in #kubuntu
[01:12] <Shaezsche> how do i install the latest ubuntu on an external usb HD?
[01:12] <crywolf_3>  i tried to play a dvd and get this message, Failed to play Audio/Video Disc
[01:12] <BioVorE> Fastly: is you sound device setup right?
[01:12] <Fastly> sound is fine
[01:12] <cached> whens dapper up?
[01:12] <Fastly> and amarok works fine
[01:12] <kspath_> cached: /topic
[01:13] <cached> ooo
[01:13] <cached> purty
[01:13] <Fastly> just the ipod isn't autodetected
[01:13] <Shaezsche> ??
[01:13] <BioVorE> Fastly: what back end is aramok using? xine?
[01:13] <Cas> Shaezsche: you could if you can make the disk bootable in your BIOS
[01:13] <Shaezsche> ok
[01:13] <Shaezsche> and then it will install without any further tinkering?
[01:14] <Fastly> think so... will check..
[01:14] <_clem> Shaezsche : there is a new release tomorrow, you should wait till then...
[01:14] <Shaezsche> also, will this affect my battery life? switching from windows xp to ubuntu.
[01:14] <Shaezsche> i just dled the lts kubuntu
[01:14] <roostishaw> Jowi or Yoric, then what is the 'fastest' theme? the default one from the ubuntu install?
[01:14] <crywolf_3> i get an error when i tried to play a dvd, Failed to play Audio/Video Disc
[01:14] <crywolf_3> why
[01:14] <_clem> Shaezsche : well... will the usb be seen as /dev/sda1 always.... would it not break grub if it moved to /dev/sda2 ?
[01:14] <Kyral> !dvd
[01:14] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[01:14] <TTT_Travis> I thought dapper was supposed to be coming out in 45 minutes
[01:15] <Mic__hael> Shaezsche: battery life could be less with ubuntu, it depends
[01:15] <kspath_> TTT_Travis: /topic
[01:15] <TTT_Travis> yeah
[01:15] <TTT_Travis> I know
[01:15] <dave> crywolf_3: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-49d7b89e22f864732e033a68a77cfe144f23af8c
[01:15] <Shaezsche> michael, how much less? and depends on what
[01:15] <TTT_Travis> but someone told me 8 EST
[01:15] <crywolf_3> thanke
[01:15] <_clem> !dapper
[01:15] <kspath_> TTT_Travis: /shoot someone
[01:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[01:15] <crywolf_3> thanke dave
[01:15] <dmbt> its possible
[01:15] <_clem> !restricted
[01:15] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:15] <Shaezsche> whya re the kubuntu and xubuntu LTS releases out before the ubuntu?
[01:16] <atzar> what is the equivalent of cubase on Linux ?
[01:16] <Mic__hael> Shaezsche: by default, it's usually less, but people who pay attention to it manage to get more out of their batteries with ubuntu... I don't know how, and I don't remember how long my batteries lasted with xp
[01:16] <aleksander> via_strass: and you'll finally need to ad this line to your /etc/fstab: /dev/hdax none swap sw 0 0
[01:16] <TTT_Travis> if I install the daily build for yesterday will it be about the same?
[01:16] <Seveas> atzar, I wish there was one...
[01:16] <kspath_> atzar: apt-cache search keyword
[01:16] <TTT_Travis> wait nevermind, I actually want the server version
[01:16] <aleksander> via_strass: and an x stands for the number of your swap partition
[01:16] <Shaezsche> whya re the kubuntu and xubuntu LTS releases out before the ubuntu?
[01:16] <_clem> Shaezsche: what makes you say that ?
[01:16] <aleksander> via_strass: you'll be able to check it with fdisk -l
[01:16] <Jowi> roostishaw: "simple" is very quick. Wonderlooks or Bluecurve are also pretty good (those are gtk (or button/widget themes))
[01:16] <atzar> Seveas: you mean, there's no ?
[01:16] <mawa> I run ubuntu on an older powermac g4 and i cant seem to access the capture controls or get the microphone to record any sound. any suggestions?
[01:16] <dmbt> ewmmmm, bacon.......
[01:17] <Shaezsche> i just downled the kubuntu lts off the website
[01:17] <Shaezsche> go to its homepage
[01:17] <crywolf_3> dave , ,,,, it saiys, Failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab
[01:17] <_clem> Shaezsche: you mean the RC ?
[01:17] <Shaezsche> i dont know it SAID lts
[01:17] <Shaezsche> ahhh, the dled file says RC
[01:17] <Shaezsche> thats bs
[01:17] <_clem> ok
[01:17] <Seveas> HAHAH
[01:18] <Seveas> Shaezsche, kubuntu/edubuntu/xubuntu will be released at the same time or later
[01:18] <Jowi> roostishaw: the absolute slowest i've seen is CleanestBrushedGnome
[01:18] <Shaezsche> ok
[01:18] <dmbt> wow, a lot of people in this room today
[01:18] <_clem> well even the kubuntu.org page states "Release Candidate".
[01:18] <Stormx2> I missed you ubuntu <3
[01:18] <Shaezsche> does this version boot faster than 5.10? that took nearly twice as long as winxp to load to the desktop
[01:18] <Seveas> Stormx2, !
[01:18] <roostishaw> Jowi, where can I find simple?
[01:18] <Stormx2> Seveas!
[01:18] <Seveas> where the f* have you been?
[01:18] <Stormx2> How are you man?
[01:18] <Stormx2> Windows
[01:18] <dmbt> will hte user count get up to 1000?
[01:18] <Stormx2> my friend
[01:18] <Seveas> shiver
[01:18] <_clem> Shaezsche: Gnome 2.14 is much faster than the previous Gnome to start.
[01:18] <Stormx2> Yeah well
[01:18] <Seveas> did you go through decon already?
[01:19] <Jowi> roostishaw: umm. don't remember. try art.gnome.org
[01:19] <ompaul> !offtopic
[01:19] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[01:19] <Shaezsche> clem, excellent
[01:19] <ompaul> hehe
[01:19] <aLd> could i just install kde rather than geting kabuntu
[01:19] <Stormx2> graphic design : linux doesn't cut it with that
[01:19] <Stormx2> haha Seveas ^_^ that made me laugh
[01:19] <Stormx2> Oh im in a good mood
[01:19] <Stormx2> its good to be back with my geeks <3
[01:19] <byen> aLd, yes you can
[01:19] <Seveas> ompaul, do you seriously see any chance to get #ubuntu on-topic tonight?
[01:19] <_clem> aLd : yes, from Ubuntu, install the kubuntu-desktop package.
[01:19] <Stormx2> plus i like the more rounded fonts on ubuntu
[01:19] <ompaul> Seveas, no
[01:19] <Stormx2> hehe
[01:19] <Shaezsche> does this one feature modem support?
[01:19] <Mewshi> how do i get xine 1.1.1?
[01:19] <kspath_> !ompaul++
[01:20] <byen> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop aLd
[01:20] <Stormx2> Its had modem support for a while, eh?
[01:20] <Seveas> ompaul, for tonight I've given up on it, let's just have fun
[01:20] <ompaul> !karma ompaul
[01:20] <ubotu> ompaul has karma of 5
[01:20] <dmbt> arrr, to many people, to many messages to fast!
[01:20] <SurfnKid> how do i set up a *.deb file?
[01:20] <SurfnKid> !deb
[01:20] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[01:20] <SurfnKid> thank u
[01:20] <Stormx2> Oh man
[01:20] <dmbt> SurfnKid: install one or make one?
[01:20] <dmbt> oh
[01:20] <Stormx2> Damn
[01:20] <kspath_> dmbt: /ignore nick helps with all so much though.
[01:20] <Abo> is it time to upgrade to Dapper, or I should wait yet another day?
[01:20] <Stormx2> That bot is stealing all our glory!
[01:20] <Stormx2> !self-destruct
[01:20] <ubotu> Stormx2: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:20] <_clem> !dapper
[01:20] <tdshiv> will the LTS, dapper drake update itself through the update function or will i have to go back and isntall the new kernel myself .... is it a new kernal?
[01:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[01:21] <SurfnKid> downloaded one, need to install it. keytouch manager
[01:21] <lix> Hi. Where can I order Dapper Drake CD's for our University? (We need around 200pcs. ix86 & PPC).
[01:21] <Cas> tdshiv: it will update
[01:21] <aLd> thanks beyn
[01:21] <tdshiv> thanks cas
[01:21] <baconbacon> !shipit
[01:21] <ubotu> For free ubuntu CDs visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ . For kubuntu CDs visit http://shipit.kubuntu.org . For edubuntu CDs - http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[01:21] <dmbt> lix: you should email shipit
[01:21] <Seveas> lix, for that number of cd's: contact info@shipit.ubuntu.com
[01:21] <lix> k :) thanks!
[01:21] <Stormx2> i was gone for 5 days... lets see how many updates
[01:21] <Stormx2> 59
[01:21] <Stormx2> not bad.
[01:21] <Abo> I've been using breezer since little more than a week now, I really liked it !
[01:21] <Stormx2> >.< I bet libc is in there though
[01:21] <Stormx2> Ah man
[01:21] <Abo> best distro I ever tried
[01:21] <ompaul> lix, you can get 10 cds and use them - you can get one and use it on all - its legal
[01:21] <hyphenated> do you really need 200 discs, instead of using the same ones a bunch of times?
[01:21] <Stormx2> I get to install dapper on my friend's pc
[01:22] <Stormx2> Abo:  :D YAY!
[01:22] <petrik> NFS folder sharing help please. I rightclicked of the folder to share it and gave it the IP of other computer. How do I now view it on the other computer?
[01:22] <aleksander> Abo: so go for dapper, you'll be even more impressed ;)
[01:22] <ompaul> okay its a 3 hour download
[01:22] <Mewshi> can i update to the dapper repositories?
[01:22] <ompaul> Mewshi, yes
[01:22] <BioVorE> yes
[01:22] <crywolf_3> i download realplayer_10.0.7-0.0_i386.deb but i cant install it
[01:22] <aleksander> Mewshi: yes
[01:22] <Mewshi> how?
[01:22] <baconbacon> !upgrade
[01:22] <crywolf_3>  how do i do it
[01:23] <ubotu> [upgrade]  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[01:23] <Stormx2> Apart from looking nicer and gedit now highlighting php for me (YES!) dapper isn't much different for me  But its still yummeh!
[01:23] <ompaul> !realplayer
[01:23] <ubotu> hmm... realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:23] <crazybob> !forum
[01:23] <ubotu> forum is, like, the ubuntu web forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:23] <Cas> Mewshi: update and run 'sudo update-manager -d"
[01:23] <ompaul> !tell crywolf_3 about realplayer
[01:23] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[01:23] <crywolf_3> i download , realplayer_10.0.7-0.0_i386.deb, how do i install it
[01:23] <ubotu> :)
[01:23] <Abo> aleksander, how to upgrade (smoothly) ?  sudo apt-get upgrade?
[01:23] <Stormx2> Abo: Nope. Look at what ubotu said
[01:23] <aleksander> Mewshi: alt+f2 and gksudo "update-manager -d"
[01:23] <ompaul> crywolf_3, don't repeat please it has been in the channel once and messaged to you by the bot
[01:23] <_clem> !upgrade
[01:23] <ubotu> well, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[01:23] <joelito> Do you think using the torrent will be a good Idea?
[01:24] <Abo> crywolf_3, sudo chmod +x realplayer_10.0.7-0.0_i386.deb
[01:24] <crywolf_3> ok
[01:24] <ompaul> _clem, message the bot please
[01:24] <Stormx2> crywolf_3: Read the howtoo foo'
[01:24] <aleksander> Abo: alt+f2 and gksudo "update-manager -d"
[01:24] <Flannel> Seveas, once dapper is released, it will ask to update without any invervention (update manager) right?
[01:24] <_clem> ompaul : It was for Abo, not for me.
[01:24] <dmbt> i here on breezy, there is a nice graphical upgrader gui for dapper
[01:24] <Stormx2> I don't think so.
[01:24] <Seveas> Flannel, sudo update-manager -d already works...
[01:24] <Jowi> joelito: last time i tried the torrent was really quick
[01:24] <hyperactivecrond> what time did we officialy release (GMT Time?) Dapper?
[01:24] <ompaul> no
[01:24] <Flannel> hyperactivecrond: see topic
[01:24] <hyperactivecrond> ah whoops didnt' read the /topic
[01:24] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, /topic
[01:24] <rackerz> 1AM apprently.
[01:25] <Stormx2> It isn't released yet, foo;
[01:25] <Seveas> rackerz, no
[01:25] <ompaul> that would be UTC
[01:25] <rackerz> Yeah i didn't think so.
[01:25] <joelito> Good, 'cause i'll need the ISOs as soon as I can get them
[01:25] <Newbify2> anyone know if there is a bittorrent for it?
[01:25] <Stormx2> Dude
[01:25] <Archville> Seveas:  Do you know what version of Gedit is bundled in the Dapper release ?
[01:25] <hyperactivecrond> becuase the announces are in the wiki
[01:25] <Archville> I think i've found a bug on the latest one.
[01:25] <rackerz> Is this the official Ubuntu channel?
[01:25] <Seveas> joe_user, then download the latest daily now and rsync after release 
[01:25] <Flannel> Seveas: ah, I didn't know if that was wise for general public, or if it were just for beta upgrades.  Thanks for the clarification.
[01:25] <crazybob> i thought it was released in 30+ minutes according to the fridge
[01:25] <dmbt> rackerz: yes
[01:25] <Seveas> joelito*
[01:25] <Seveas> rackerz, yes
[01:25] <sutur> in 5minutes and 30seconds...
[01:25] <rackerz> Ty,
[01:25] <Stormx2> Is our cosmonaut overlord gonna join IRC and be like "Now, creatures, feast on our duck!!"
[01:25] <Seveas> crazybob, fridge is incorrect
[01:25] <hyperactivecrond> sutur: lol
[01:25] <crywolf_3> i type the code in the terminal but its not installed
[01:25] <dmbt> rackerz: although iright now its a bit hectic in here
[01:26] <crazybob> ok
[01:26] <Seveas> Stormx2, no
[01:26] <ompaul> Newbify2, there needs to be downloads of the binaryies to seed for the torrents
[01:26] <Stormx2> oh :(
[01:26] <Jowi> rackerz: yeah, but atm everyone is a bit frantic
[01:26] <Flannel> crazybob: no, fridge just defaulted to 00:00 for the time, and is counting down from that.
[01:26] <crywolf_3> i typed realplayer code in the terminal
[01:26] <Stormx2> oh man
[01:26] <Stormx2> I wanted it to be like the y2k stuff
[01:26] <rackerz> Yeah I'm guessing it is. Dapper release today.
[01:26] <crywolf_3>  dut it wont install
[01:26] <Stormx2> like everyone counting down
[01:26] <hyperactivecrond> sutur: you aren't serious, are you:
[01:26] <hyperactivecrond> rackerz: affirmative
[01:26] <dmbt> anyone guess if its going to be available in the next couple of hoursa?
[01:26] <mcmahons> so... whens dapper coming out? :)
[01:27] <utUtu> Dapper Dev forum is now closed and the new look  Ubuntu website is now ready for business?
[01:27] <Stormx2>  /topic
[01:27] <TiG4> --- Is there a program that allows me to keep a window ontop of all other windows? ---
[01:27] <hyperactivecrond> mcmahons: /topic
[01:27] <mcmahons> Stormx2: i was joking i read it :)
[01:27] <Versed> probably I would think sometime around or after 8am gmt.  could be wrong.
[01:27] <Felyduw> upgrading now... wee :D
[01:27] <Stormx2> Ah I see
[01:27] <Stormx2> 
[01:27] <mcmahons> same to you hyper :)
[01:27] <Newbify2> ompaul, ok yea I was just wondering, because it seems like this will be a very popular release and a bittorrent would be nice to save bandwidth from the mirrors
[01:27] <dmbt> so, its going to be released in a couple minutes ;)
[01:27] <Stormx2> maybe
[01:27] <mcmahons> Newwbify2: haha who cares shuttleworth's paying for it :)
[01:27] <Seveas> Versed, keep this a secret, but I heard from some of the lead developers that morning or midday isn't unlikely
[01:27] <ompaul> Newbify2, well no doubt some people will have it on torrent as soon as they upload for it
[01:28] <Stormx2> How come our cosmonaut overlord is so rich?
[01:28] <Stormx2> does he have shares in google?
[01:28] <Versed> I'm thinking more from what makes sense then from speculation.
[01:28] <Seveas> Stormx2, bankrobbery
[01:28] <dmbt> Stormx2: becauase he is smart
[01:28] <Stormx2> Oh ok
[01:28] <Versed> or any rumors.
[01:28] <Flannel> Stormx2: usually rich people have lots of money, so, I imagine that's why.
[01:28] <ompaul> mcmahons, we all should, better to get it to an extra 5 people who can't afford it on CDs than waste it on bandwidth tarriffs
[01:28] <Seveas> Flannel, ROFLQ
[01:28] <Stormx2> Flannel: XD
[01:28] <GazzaK> Versed, keep this a secret, - lol, like yeah, thats gonna not be spread about every ubuntu channel
[01:28] <Versed> lol
[01:29] <Seveas> ogra, welcome to hell 
[01:29] <dmbt> linux releases by ubuntu hurt the US economy
[01:29] <Stormx2> Ah this isn't hell
[01:29] <Stormx2> this is just temporerily efnet
[01:29] <dmbt> they make all the isps bandwidth bills go up
[01:29] <Stormx2> oh right, hell
[01:29] <Seveas> Stormx2, hahahahah 
[01:29] <ompaul> that shoud be on bash.org
[01:29] <ogra> Seveas, hell ?
[01:29] <Seveas> ogra, 856 people screaming for dapper
[01:29] <hyperactivecrond> make a new channel: #waitforreleaseofdapper?
[01:29] <ogra> ah, i see
[01:30] <Versed> look, in anycase, when 30 million people hits canonical's servers all at once, don't think anybody's gonna get anything fast.
[01:30] <Jeeves_> Seveas: WHEN IS DAPPER!?
[01:30] <joelito> el conteo esta en http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
[01:30] <Stormx2> >.<
[01:30] <Kyral> I am sick of this, I need an advil
[01:30] <petrik> How do you crash out of a frozen program?
[01:30] <GeorgeAScott> forcequit?
[01:30] <ogra> Seveas, tell them the more "PASS" entries we have on the testing wikipage the faster it is to happen
[01:30] <Jeeves_> Naja!
[01:30] <Noah0504> hehe, I wonder if I'll be able to download the Dapper updates tonight when I'm up at two in the mornin'!
[01:30] <_clem> petrik: xkill
[01:30] <pEtErZ> is it possible to give users full access to the opt folder, if yes can someone msg me and please tell me how, right now i am logged into shell as root
[01:31] <Versed> I'm having a beer and cigar and toasting to those developers who did this for us, if I can't get it tommorow, I will get it in a few days.  anyone want a beer?
[01:31] <Jeeves_> I know that a certain someone isn't going to be able to use nl.archive! :)
[01:31] <Seveas> Jeeves_, bugger
[01:31] <Stormx2> I want a beer 
[01:31] <hyperactivecrond> i have a lovely message for anyone who decides to ask when dapper's gona be released next <eg>
[01:31] <hyperactivecrond> !beer Stormx2
[01:31] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:31] <Seveas> I'll send Mendel to ddos you ;)
[01:31] <trainstroker> how do i make linux reaad batch files or INF files. i need for a thumb drive to be able to auto run something off of linux.
[01:31] <aleksander> pEtErZ: why would you like to do it?
[01:31] <Abo> I have this redundant problem where all gaim and xchat are well connected to the internet but all the rest (firefox, apt-get ...) fail to connect
[01:31] <Cas> pEtErZ: man chmod
[01:31] <Kyral> Jeez, these people are actiing like the HURD went stable :P
[01:31] <Flannel> wow, this is like windows95....
[01:31] <crywolf_3> help
[01:31] <Seveas> Kyral, HAHAHAHAHAHAH
[01:31] <petrik> Not from a command line. I don't have acess to it. Can't go anywhere. mouse moves but other than that no responce
[01:32] <Kyral> Thank you! Finally someone got it :P
[01:32] <ompaul> crywolf_3, thats not much use - say more
[01:32] <aleksander> pEtErZ: i'm not a hacker but i think this kind of ingeration in the system is a bad idea
[01:32] <joelito> Flannel, I read something like that in #ubuntu-es
[01:32] <joelito> the spanish channel
[01:32] <crywolf_3> i 'm tring to install real player
[01:32] <Stormx2> Stromx? THOUTH BLASPHEME!!
[01:32] <_clem> Abo : could be a proxy or DNS problem.
[01:32] <Versed> btw, whats the dapper ubuntu channel again is it #ubuntu-1?
[01:32] <_clem> Abo : check both.
[01:32] <hyperactivecrond> !tell crywolf_3 about restrictedformats
[01:32] <Stormx2> crywolf_3: are you setting out to annoy us or something?
[01:32] <Seveas> Versed, #ubuntu+1
[01:32] <Stormx2> crywolf_3: Read the howto
[01:32] <Versed> thanks
[01:32] <Stormx2> !tell crywolf_3 about realplayer
[01:33] <crywolf_3> damn!
[01:33] <Cas> crywolf_3: or tell us where exactly you are stuck
[01:33] <ray__> hello all
[01:33] <Stormx2> Hi ray__!!
[01:33] <Roger_The_Bum> ok never mind then
[01:33] <crywolf_3> cho!
[01:33] <Roger_The_Bum> when WILL it be released?
[01:33] <Stormx2> !dictionary cho
[01:33] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Stormx2
[01:33] <Flannel> Roger_The_Bum: see topic
[01:34] <kspath_> Roger_The_Bum: /topic
[01:34] <bosco> cant dont no
[01:34] <Roger_The_Bum> ok
[01:34] <ray__> grrr... I hate that default __ that gets added to the name
[01:34] <Stormx2> its cause its been taken
[01:34] <Stormx2> methinks
[01:34] <bosco> join # topic
[01:34] <hyperactivecrond> Roger_The_Bum: hold your breath.  it'll speed up the release. we'll tell you wne it's released
[01:34] <Roger_The_Bum> /nick ray
[01:35] <Roger_The_Bum> whatev
[01:35] <hyperactivecrond> keep on holdin
[01:35] <GeorgeAScott> isn't there a dapper #
[01:35] <bosco> so i will just check back tommorow after work and get dapper
[01:35] <Flannel> GeorgeAScott: we've given up.
[01:35] <GeorgeAScott> and why can't i find it
[01:35] <bosco> there is dapper1
[01:35] <Roger_The_Bum> #dapper ?
[01:35] <Kyral> #ubuntu+1
[01:35] <Flannel> GeorgeAScott: #ubuntu+1 was dapper
[01:35] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu+1
[01:35] <bosco> Roger_The_Bum, the room for dapper questions
[01:35] <Roger_The_Bum> oh
[01:36] <ray__> well, i have a quick question about changing from ati to nvidia
[01:36] <ray__> video cards that is
[01:36] <trainstroker> how do i make linux reaad batch files or INF files. i need for a thumb drive to be able to auto run something off of linux.\
[01:36] <mcmahons> its sad how excited i am for this release
[01:36] <Kyral> YES IT IS!!
[01:36] <Kyral> :P
[01:36] <petrik> Is there a key combination to quit a frozen PC where only the mouse moves but no other responce?
[01:36] <_clem> trainstroker: that's a weird question....
[01:36] <hyperactivecrond> petrik: ctrl-shift-backspace
[01:36] <ray__> will someone look at this url and tell me if it looks correct? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152159&highlight=nvidia+s-video
[01:37] <Seveas> ray__, that looks like a perfectly good url
[01:37] <Roger_The_Bum> wow
[01:37] <_clem> petrik: try CTRL+ALT+BACLSPACE
[01:37] <Roger_The_Bum> everybody IS waiting...
[01:37] <Stormx2> Seems valid enough
[01:37] <ompaul> !nvidia
[01:37] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:37] <ray__> seveas is soooo funny
[01:37] <ray__> :)
[01:37] <joelito> ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:37] <hyperactivecrond> !tell ompaul about msgthebot
[01:38] <petrik> I think it's the power button. No responce from key combinations
[01:38] <Seveas> ompaul, how about /cs clear bans in here?
[01:38] <Roger_The_Bum> wow
[01:38] <ray__> seriously though, will someone read that thread and tell me if the advice on how to change from ati to nvidia is correct?
[01:38] <mcmahons> Roger_The_Bum: what did you expect, ubuntu is the most pop. linux disstro
[01:38] <ray__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152159&highlight=nvidia+s-video
[01:38] <trainstroker> _clem: i wrote a prog for my psp that is an autorun. if a set variable in the PC memory idetifies you as the owner. then it acts like it usually does. if u arent the owner it emails the owner an email with IP. this is does from an autorun (INF) which executes an HTM which exectues an PHP on my server and emails the IP
[01:38] <conn> hi, when I run a certain app, DRI won't work, displaying this error: libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_Dispatch). Usually LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 will fix the issue, but I can't get it working with a particular app (vmware-player). Every other gl app works fine, direct rendering is enabled and working fine. Any ideas?
[01:38] <ompaul> Seveas, no there are some we should not touch - have a lclose look
[01:38] <mcmahons> ray__: ok
[01:38] <Roger_The_Bum> this is more hyper than #wikipedia when it was down 0_o
[01:38] <Seveas> ok
[01:38] <gnomefreak> !nvidia
[01:38] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:38] <Roger_The_Bum> wair
[01:39] <Seveas> Roger_The_Bum, heh
[01:39] <Roger_The_Bum> it wasn't this hyper
[01:39] <Stormx2> i hope shufflesmurf does come in here personally and go "hay guis ges wat?"
[01:39] <hyperactivecrond> !tell gnomefreak about msgthebot
[01:39] <Seveas> Roger_The_Bum, wikipedia 1000000 countdown was worse 
[01:39] <Stormx2> Oh yeah
[01:39] <gnomefreak> hyperactivecrond: i didnt do that for me
[01:39] <Stormx2> So much fuss about a train station
[01:39] <Roger_The_Bum> it was +m and consisted of me shouting <<<><>>>800<<<><>>>
[01:39] <Roger_The_Bum> until I was devoiced
[01:39] <Stormx2> What did that do?
[01:39] <Stormx2> >_<
[01:40] <Seveas> "shufflesmurf" LOL
[01:40] <Roger_The_Bum> also 90% of the messages were people entering and leaving
[01:40] <Stormx2> oww
[01:40] <Stormx2> hairball
[01:40] <Roger_The_Bum> 0_o
[01:40] <apokryphos> Seveas: looking at them, all ones set by me could be removed I guess
[01:40] <Capn_Refsmmat> Stormx2: you're a cat?
[01:40] <Stormx2> No
[01:40] <Stormx2> >.< but hair gets lodged in my throut
[01:40] <gnomefreak> Seveas: its really just a few that the server caught by the looks of it
[01:40] <Seveas> kalel, fly away ;)
[01:40] <_clem> trainstroker: so ? Linux will read any readable file and execute any executable file. http://www.linuxforums.org/security/file_permissions.html Now, if you're writing DOS commands in a batch file don't expect BASH to run them properly.
[01:40] <kalel> Seveas: rofl
[01:41] <kalel> :)
[01:41] <mcmahons> ray__: that seems fine whats the problem
[01:41] <kevor> *burp*
[01:41] <ray__> the link from the wiki only deals with installing drivers. what about when to replace the actual card and stuff
[01:41] <Seveas> /nick jorel
[01:41] <H080J03> lol
[01:41] <ray__> mcmahons, no problem yet
[01:41] <DarkTower> the graphical installer will only let me assign mount points to two partition in dapper. Anyone else have that? I can only do / and home, not swap even though i made 4 partitions
[01:41] <mcmahons> ray__: stick the card in, boot ubuntu, follow the instructions.
[01:41] <MTecknology> Installed Ubuntu and restored my firefox profile. I restored it from a Windows profile and it actually worked. Only problem is that when I try to play a flash game, it gets stuck in a loop and eventually closes ff, when I try to use a java applet, it just closes ff while loading.
[01:41] <ray__> i'm trying to make sure i don't run into any problems :)
[01:41] <gnomefreak> ray__: you wont know til it happens
[01:41] <Stormx2> MTecknology: Ekk
[01:41] <mcmahons> ray__: very thorough of you :)
[01:42] <Stormx2> MTecknology: Meh try reinstalling java/flash?
[01:42] <Stormx2> Hi ubuntu
[01:42] <MTecknology> Stormx2, i have
[01:42] <mcmahons> ray__: if you run into any problems (ie. x isn't working) just come in here and we'll help
[01:42] <gnomefreak> ray__: you can read all the docs int he world they might not list a problem you run into
[01:42] <Jowi> DarkTower: swap has no mountpoint
[01:42] <RTB|0_o> wow
[01:42] <ray__> here goes nothing... i'll come back and let you know :P
[01:42] <Stormx2> Clearly judgement day has come, ubuntu has become self aware. it is only a matter of time.
[01:42] <RTB|0_o> somebody took ubuntu
[01:42] <RTB|0_o> amazing
[01:42] <mcmahons> ray__: no worries :)
[01:42] <ray__> thanks, guys
[01:43] <DarkTower> Jowi: Except that it says on that scree you must assign a prtition for swao
[01:43] <MTecknology> no help?? :'(
[01:43] <Stormx2> MTecknology: Get rid of firefox? ;)
[01:43] <Jowi> DarkTower: yes, swap use a partition, but no mountpoint
[01:43] <hyperactivecrond> use it as type SWAP
[01:43] <DarkTower> Jowi: And then half way through warns you you havent assigned a swap
[01:43] <Stormx2> Is it actually possible to run more than one linux distro on the same drive/machine?
[01:43] <MTecknology> Stormx2, i love ff
[01:43] <Nullified> !x
[01:43] <ubotu> it has been said that x is a portable, network-transparent window system.
[01:43] <ahmeni> Anyone know what the scheme is when it comes to package names for libraries, and the trailing bits?  I'm doing up a temporary package for libode, but the current version in apt is libode0c2..
[01:44] <Stormx2> MTecknology: Yeah, well reinstall it after :
[01:44] <hyperactivecrond> Stormx2: yes.
[01:44] <hyperactivecrond> !tell Nullified about msgthebot
[01:44] <leonardoo> dapper is coming :)
[01:44] <Jowi> DarkTower: ouch. that's worse. i haven't tried the gui installer for awhile so i'm not sure why that would be.
[01:44] <Flannel> o_0: 'ubuntu' is the default login for people from the liveCD, we get them all the time
[01:44] <Stormx2> Last time i tried to install fedora core 3 and ubuntu. And *everything* screwed up
[01:44] <MTecknology> Stormx2, i tried reinstalling it all
[01:44] <DarkTower> Jowi: Sorry but thats not how its behaving. I have created a swap partition, but you also have to select it in the next screen and thats not possible
[01:44] <leonardoo> hello everybody
[01:44] <o_0> oh
[01:44] <Stormx2> Eended up with an ubuntu-fedora hybrid
[01:44] <hyperactivecrond> can we not change that to an autologin
[01:44] <Stormx2> which was pretty cool
[01:44] <Stormx2> but it didn't work
[01:44] <Stormx2> XD
[01:44] <avalente> where's Mark S.? He should be the one to announce Dapper
[01:44] <Nullified> Heya guys anyone where the config files for the X window manager are
[01:44] <mo> Hello all
[01:44] <Stormx2> Hi mo!
[01:44] <mo> ahoy
[01:44] <Stormx2> I have a friend who's surname is mo
[01:45] <aleksander> Nullified: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:45] <mo> that's one crazy surname
[01:45] <ahmeni> Is there a channel for package maintinence questions?
[01:45] <Stormx2> Uh oh
[01:45] <apokryphos> avalente: it won't be announced for some time still
[01:45] <DarkTower> Also there is no way to graphically do softyware raid in the installer. I really dislike the new graphical installer, it doesnt even give you the option of doing things the old way
[01:45] <Tedd> Stormx2, I beat up a mo once
[01:45] <Capn_Refsmmat> that was a lot of removed bans
[01:45] <o_0> whoa
[01:45] <Tedd> True story
[01:45] <Stormx2> * ChanServ removes ban on LOLLIE!*@*
[01:45] <Stormx2> XD~~
[01:45] <mo> I'm a mo that's not yet been beaten up
[01:45] <dmbt> umm, was that suppose3d to happen?
[01:45] <o_0> whoa
[01:45] <apokryphos> Stormx2: yeah, he/she was an annoying one 8)
[01:45] <avalente> apokryphos: but with mark be here? ;)
[01:45] <gnomefreak> dmbt: yes
[01:45] <mo> but I'll steer clear of Tedd, cos I don't want to tempt fate
[01:45] <MTecknology> what's with removing bans?
[01:45] <mo> oh
[01:45] <mo> too late
[01:45] <dmbt> ok, good
[01:45] <avalente> I want to /whois him
[01:45] <apokryphos> avalente: very doubtful.
[01:45] <avalente> LOL
[01:45] <hyperactivecrond> !tell Tedd about coc
[01:45] <gnomefreak> Tedd: watch your language
[01:45] <apokryphos> MTecknology: fresh for dapper :)
[01:45] <hyperactivecrond> please follow that ted
[01:45] <hyperactivecrond> tedd*
[01:45] <MTecknology> o
[01:46] <Stormx2> what is snuffleturf's username on IRC?
[01:46] <o_0> ok
[01:46] <Tedd> How many times have I heard that XD
[01:46] <_clem> trainstroker: and anyway... as much as I don't like theft... as a computer enthousiast I don't like the idea of an autorun which would connect to the internet on my behalf and broadcast information. Plus, as a developer, I find your solution pretty unstable, you're relying on : DOS, autorun, internet connection, firewall... I don't know, I don't like it.
[01:46] <MTecknology> So, Dapper is moving to here in how long?
[01:46] <o_0> now it makes sense
[01:46] <ompaul> soon
[01:46] <hyperactivecrond> is o_0 popping up randmoly with no text in anyone's irc clients besides mine?
[01:46] <apokryphos> MTecknology: as soon as it's released
[01:46] <avalente> sabdfl Stormx2
[01:46] <o_0> no
[01:46] <Stormx2> T minus 6 seconds.
[01:46] <o_0> I just type /me then a double space
[01:46] <MTecknology> what time?
[01:46] <Stormx2> avalente: Is than an acronym
[01:46] <o_0> 6 seconds?
[01:46] <Stormx2> Lets figure out what it means!
[01:46] <Jowi> MTecknology: see /topic
[01:47] <Stormx2> It will be a recursive one... he's in with linux
[01:47] <Stormx2> Umm
[01:47] <DarkTower> Anyone else had trouble with the dapper graphical partitioner, using 4 partitions??
[01:47] <mo> I'm a complete and utter ubuntu newbie, and I'm having difficulty with enabling the universe and multiverse
[01:47] <joelito> 12min
[01:47] <Seveas> BREAKING NEWS: Dapper Drake canceled, the Drake was killed by avian flu
[01:47] <hyperactivecrond> self appointed b dictator for life
[01:47] <MTecknology> Jowi, idk what time that is in CST
[01:47] <Stormx2> ROFL!!!
[01:47] <gnomefreak> ;)
[01:47] <avalente> self apointed benevolent dictator for life or somtheing like that
[01:47] <o_0> wow
[01:47] <Seveas> !sabdfl
[01:47] <kspath_> !Seveas++
[01:47] <ompaul> o_0, not funny
[01:47] <ubotu> sabdfl is probably Mark Shuttleworth, cosmonaut and founder of Canonical and Ubuntu
[01:47] <via_strass> _clem trainstoker is long gone
[01:47] <gnomefreak> i thought about adding to the topic something along those lines
[01:47] <dmbt> hey guess what, ubuntu dapper has just been released *yay*!
[01:47] <_clem> oh.. :)
[01:47] <_clem> ok
[01:47] <o_0> this nick explains everything
[01:47] <Stormx2> sabdfl: a bloody different flu leeches
[01:47] <Stormx2> There we go
[01:47] <Linuturk_NB> yo, ive got a modified cuecat barcode scanner. It spits out a UPS in plain ASCII. It connects via a PS/2 interupt on the keyboard. It works fine on a windows machine, but in Ubuntu, it spits out different numbers everytime I scan the same barcode. Anyone help?
[01:47] <dmbt> made you look!
[01:48] <Plouj> damn it, Ubuntu is soo fooking slow
[01:48] <Jowi> MTecknology: i only know of GMT+1 :)
[01:48] <hyperactivecrond>  /nick Dapperishere
[01:48] <Stormx2> dmbt: WTFWHERE?!
[01:48] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: youve been sitting here asking when how long if everyone stops asking we might tell everyone when we know ;)
[01:48] <dmbt> made you look
[01:48] <Seveas> Stormx2, he's messing with you :
[01:48] <_clem> lol
[01:48] <hyperactivecrond> !tell Plouj about COC
[01:48] <o_0> LIARZOR
[01:48] <Plouj> on Athlon 3500+ with 1GB of ram :/
[01:48] <Stormx2> I know ;)
[01:48] <via_strass> !tell mo about universe
[01:48] <apokryphos> quite an atmosphere ;-)
[01:48] <sutur> BREAKING NEWS: dapper drake realease posponed due to trademark conflicts with the mandrake foundation.
[01:48] <kspath_>  /ignore Plouj
[01:48] <o_0> !tell o_0 about the !tell command
[01:48] <_clem> !tell _clem about COC
[01:49] <Jowi> sutur: you misspelled "mandriva"
[01:49] <Seveas> sutur, hehe
[01:49] <MTecknology> gnomefreak, i'm actually more conserned with getting java and flash working, that's what i keep asking
[01:49] <hyperactivecrond> mandriva is spelled "H-E-L-L"
[01:49] <avalente> lol
[01:49] <apokryphos> Guys -- #ubuntu-offtopic is open for general chatter :)
[01:49] <bsdfox> can anyone tell me where to change my hostname?
[01:49] <Linuturk_NB>  yo, ive got a modified cuecat barcode scanner. It spits out a UPS in plain ASCII. It connects via a PS/2 interupt on the keyboard. It works fine on a windows machine, but in Ubuntu, it spits out different numbers everytime I scan the same barcode. Anyone help?
[01:49] <hyperactivecrond> !tell MTecknology about flash
[01:49] <czambran> MTecknology: if it is not working now, I wouldn't think they will magically start working after the final release
[01:49] <_clem> spelt ?
[01:49] <ThE-LiGhT> what is the UTC time now?
[01:49] <hyperactivecrond> !tell MTecknology about java
[01:49] <Seveas> apokryphos, there is no way in mandriva^Whell that this channel will be on topic anytime soon
[01:49] <hyperactivecrond> ThE-LiGhT: Eastern time + 5
[01:49] <gnomefreak> ThE-LiGhT: type in terminal date -u
[01:49] <hyperactivecrond> aka 12:49 AM
[01:49] <Seveas> @now UTC
[01:49] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: May 31 2006, 23:49:47
[01:49] <Stormx2> owww
[01:49] <gnomefreak> hyperactivecrond: its 4 from est
[01:49] <Stormx2> battery taste bad!
[01:49] <apokryphos> Seveas: still 9 hours or so to go
[01:50] <hyperactivecrond> gnomefreak: uh... iirc it's gmt -5
[01:50] <Seveas> apokryphos, maybe more
[01:50] <Sammi84> straight from fridge.ubuntu.vom: Upcoming events 	Ubuntu 6.06 Release(event)(10 minutes)
[01:50] <Sammi84> !!!!!!!!!
[01:50] <Plouj> but seriously, why is ubuntu so slow on my machine that I can see how each terminal is redrawing itself when I have two terms and firefox open?
[01:50] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Sammi84
[01:50] <ompaul> apokryphos, where did 8am come from
[01:50] <gnomefreak> hyperactivecrond: im on est time i know its -4
[01:50] <rackerz> 9 hours till what?
[01:50] <utUtu> is that joke about the Mandrake trademark?
[01:50] <MTecknology> czamran, no shit - i'm on dapper
[01:50] <ompaul> apokryphos, where did 8am come us time
[01:50] <ThE-LiGhT> so few more hours ah?
[01:50] <Plouj> and when I compile wine, my system becomes unusable
[01:50] <hyperactivecrond> gnomefreak: i'm on EDT
[01:50] <bsdfox> can anyone tell me where to change my hostname?
[01:50] <Stormx2> Sammi84: They've introduced a .vom domain?
[01:50] <czambran> MTecknology: so am I
[01:50] <Rubin> why does the kde-core in dapper say its version 5?
[01:50] <crywolf_3> sami84...
[01:50] <Roger_The_Bum> yay
[01:50] <crywolf_3>  wad up
[01:50] <crywolf_3>  bro
[01:50] <Flannel> !tell bsdfox about hostname
[01:51] <gnomefreak> ;) we cleaning house?
[01:51] <crywolf_3> sammi84
[01:51] <Roger_The_Bum> n0_othing much
[01:51] <Plouj> whoa, I just noticed that I have direct rendering disabled with my nvidia 6600GT
[01:51] <Linuturk_NB> http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.14580695 << these so rock
[01:51] <bsdfox> thanks
[01:51] <bsdfox> Plouj so do I
[01:51] <Roger_The_Bum> wow
[01:51] <_clem> Plouj: depends on your hardware, configuration... I say troubleshoot... but it certainly wrong to say that Ubuntu is slow, it sure isn't for a lot of people (and I also mean a lot of old computers).
[01:51] <Plouj> what can I do to try to enable direct rendering?
[01:51] <bsdfox> Plouj I use glx
[01:51] <crywolf_3> can u help me with instalin realplayer?
[01:51] <Roger_The_Bum> how is the server not DDoS'ed
[01:51] <apokryphos> crywolf_3: /msg ubotu realplayer
[01:51] <bsdfox> Plouj DRI is more important for ati cards
[01:51] <Roger_The_Bum> ubuntu IS the best!
[01:51] <Plouj> bsdfox: what are you talking about?
[01:52] <Plouj> glxinfo |grep direct
[01:52] <Plouj> direct rendering: No
[01:52] <bsdfox> yeah
[01:52] <Plouj> I think that is causing my system slowness
[01:52] <Stormx2> We have to organise a mexican wave
[01:52] <ompaul> crywolf_3, read the message the bot sent you, there is a URL inthere it will get you sorted
[01:52] <gnomefreak> welcome HedgeMage ;)
[01:52] <Stormx2> For when it comes out
[01:52] <Stormx2> where we all say something very deep.
[01:52] <bsdfox> Plouj what do you score in `glxgears -printfps`
[01:52] <Stormx2> Like names of fuit
[01:52] <Stormx2> fruit*
[01:52] <Stormx2> or something...
[01:52] <HedgeMage> hi gnomefreak
[01:52] <sapote1> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[01:52] <hyperactivecrond> hold your breath. it is scientifically proven that holding one's breath speeds up the process
[01:53] <Jowi> Plouj: dri is only useful for accellerated 3d afaik
[01:53] <Plouj> bsdfox: about 866.317 FPS
[01:53] <Ophiocus> will there be much of a change for dapper beta users in a few hours or we just get to watch the rest of the comunity go heels over head for code we already have?
[01:53] <bsdfox> Plouj damn, I am getting 6800 with my 6600gt
[01:53] <bsdfox> 6800fps
[01:53] <Slappy> lol
[01:53] <hyperactivecrond> We'll tell you when it's relased. just keep holding your breath. that's right...
[01:53] <Slappy> 4000 here
[01:53] <Plouj> cuz direct rendering is on for you, no?
[01:53] <Knorrie> Ophiocus: you can watch it in here ;-)
[01:53] <_clem> Ophiocus : you just get to watch people go crazy I guess :)
[01:53] <crimsun> Ophiocus: if you're current, you already have it.
[01:53] <czambran> Ophiocus: I wonder the same
[01:54] <Stormx2> Ophiocus: Hi
[01:54] <Plouj> anyways, isn't there a way to enable direct rendering?
[01:54] <hyperactivecrond> Capn_Refsmmat: as opposed to what, Debian
[01:54] <Seveas> Capn_Refsmmat, they are *NOT*
[01:54] <DarkTower> I hope you can use the old installer in dapper, the graphical has got problems
[01:54] <hyperactivecrond> oops did i say that aloud?
[01:54] <teckfatt> yeah..... another 6 min
[01:54] <_clem> Ophiocus : In these moments you understand Debian users better..
[01:54] <s|k> I tried kde for the fun of it, god it is ugly :<
[01:54] <Seveas> they are *TEST* images
[01:54] <crimsun> DarkTower: yes, that's the alternate.
[01:54] <apokryphos> DarkTower: no, it should be fine.
[01:54] <petrik> When it is released no one will be able to get it as the servers will be jammed
[01:54] <Capn_Refsmmat> Seveas: I know... hence "seem"
[01:54] <gnomefreak> its not the final
[01:54] <bruce89> alternate Cd is the old installer
[01:54] <Roger_The_Bum> 8 EST?
[01:54] <sutur> hyperactivecrond: im beginning to see black spots...
[01:54] <Seveas> teckfatt, +several hours
[01:54] <apokryphos> bruce89: nope. Alternative CD is live+install
[01:54] <Roger_The_Bum> o
[01:54] <hyperactivecrond> sutur: just keep holding... and don't have your next of kin sue me
[01:54] <apokryphos> bruce89: argh, I mean it is the old installer, sorry.
[01:55] <Stormx2> They're just doing what all the good bands do at concerts; make the fans wait!
[01:55] <apokryphos> desktop is live+install
[01:55] <Linuturk_NB>  yo, ive got a modified cuecat barcode scanner. It spits out a UPS in plain ASCII. It connects via a PS/2 interupt on the keyboard. It works fine on a windows machine, but in Ubuntu, it spits out different numbers everytime I scan the same barcode. Anyone help?
[01:55] <Roger_The_Bum> apokryphos, yeah
[01:55] <gnomefreak> bruce89: alternatate is the install cd not the live
[01:55] <bruce89> no, i'm sure its the old one
[01:55] <apokryphos> and DVD is alternative+desktop
[01:55] <dmbt> have a question
[01:55] <Roger_The_Bum> wait
[01:55] <r0xoR> can anyone tell me roughly how much didfference there is between brezzy and dapper... i.e. after a fresh "default install" is there much different?
[01:55] <sutur> dapper..... its.... here ... i can.....toucht IT
[01:55] <Roger_The_Bum> is there a DVD
[01:55] <DarkTower> apokryphos: No its not. I create 4 partitions but it only lets me assign two, thus not giving any swap, which it says you need to do. Then half way through it warns i havent set any swap, which is true because it was impossible
[01:55] <dmbt> does the gui installer stil linstall all the debs sepereately
[01:55] <dmbt> >
[01:55] <bruce89> lots
[01:55] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: its desktop also?
[01:55] <hyperactivecrond> r0xoR: yes
[01:55] <leon> its orange
[01:55] <Fastly> guys, for some reason my NetworkManager applet is reporting that "no networking devices have been found" ... i have tried reinstalling it and even rebooting and no joy... any ideas?
[01:55] <teckfatt> 4 min......
[01:55] <Roger_The_Bum> r0xoR, yeah
[01:55] <czambran> r0xoR: Oh yes!
[01:55] <sapote1> e2e5e0bfb2edffd2ce02dd77bda4558e  ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso    MD5 sum
[01:55] <apokryphos> DarkTower: well, you don't have final, do you?
[01:55] <Roger_The_Bum> it can do woreless
[01:55] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: yup
[01:55] <Seveas> dmbt, no, the gui installer copies the live filesystem
[01:55] <sskroeder> hi .. this may sound as a silly request - but is there some way that i can de-install all packages that aren't part of the default Ubuntu install -- I've installed a lot of packages to try them out - and now i can't tell the ones that came with the system from those that i've subsequently installed ...-- how can i get back to a "clean install" - without having to actually re-install
[01:55] <dmbt> ah
[01:55] <hyperactivecrond> as opposed to feces brown (no offense to anyone with artwork)
[01:55] <r0xoR> aight, so it's worth waiting until tomorow?
[01:56] <bruce89> I do't think it really is 4mins
[01:56] <apokryphos> r0xoR: at the least, yes.
[01:56] <Fastly> the Network Monitor 2.12.0 built into gnome is working...
[01:56] <crywolf_3> i cant seems to get help here
[01:56] <hyperactivecrond> crywolf_3: what is your question?
[01:56] <bruce89> why
[01:56] <Stormx2> crywolf_3: What is the problem?
[01:56] <teckfatt> we will see after 3 min
[01:56] <DarkTower> apokryphos: thats true. I hope since 3 days ago theyve also put back the ability to do software RAID, because thats no longer possible
[01:56] <dmbt> crywolf_3: its a bit hectic in here
[01:56] <crazybob> crywolf_3 try the forums?
[01:56] <Stormx2> crywolf_3: How hard is it to follow a howto?
[01:56] <_clem> sskroeder: you should read about APT... you're going to love it.
[01:56] <czambran> Fastly:  for me it's not
[01:56] <petrik> Oh well I'm of to work so will not be able to get my grubby hands on it ofr at least another 9 hours
[01:56] <hyperactivecrond> crywolf_3: /msg me
[01:56] <gnomefreak> sapote1: why are you just posting things?
[01:56] <bruce89> bye
[01:56] <Fastly> czambran, what's not?
[01:56] <pschulz01> s/a/at/
[01:56] <hyperactivecrond> bye bruce
[01:56] <bruce89> eh
[01:56] <Roger_The_Bum> hola rey
[01:56] <bruce89> not me
[01:56] <hyperactivecrond> ah
[01:56] <sskroeder> _clem, i've been browsing throug the man pages - but haven't found an suitable answer
[01:57] <bruce89> i was saying bye to someone else
[01:57] <reydeluniverso> HOLA REY
[01:57] <czambran> Fastly: the network manager
[01:57] <Stormx2> sskroeder: I dunno man
[01:57] <_clem> sskroeder: sudo aptitude remove thepackagename
[01:57] <bruce89> the new website layot is interesting...
[01:57] <Fastly> hmm.... czambran, did you upgrade to dapper recently too?
[01:57] <Stormx2> _clem: Thats what he need
[01:57] <Stormx2> bruce89: For which website
[01:57] <nahoj> this channel is getting to big for it's own good....
[01:57] <reydeluniverso> DEMONIOS
[01:57] <Roger_The_Bum> brb
[01:57] <bruce89> ubuntu's
[01:57] <_clem> sskroeder: but I really insist on the fact that you should read the doc about APT from the Debian website. It's a must-read.
[01:57] <bruce89> http://www.ubuntu.com
[01:58] <your_mom> i broke x, how can i fix it? dpkg-configure xserver-xorg dosent work
[01:58] <Roger_The_Bum> don't release without me
[01:58] <teckfatt> is anyone sure the dapper going to release in next 1 min?
[01:58] <sskroeder> _clem, I know how to remove a package - but i wouldn't want to remove some component, that may have to be used later...
[01:58] <Stormx2> Oh we to make a mark shuttleworth website! like! a fansite! with ponies and animated gifs!
[01:58] <czambran> Fastly: I mean it kind of is, but it doesn;t work with my wireless only with the wired one
[01:58] <czambran> teckfatt: read the title
[01:58] <hyperactivecrond> Seveas: maybe we should have people talking about the release in another channel?
[01:58] <Flannel> sskroeder: well, one way would be to mark everything for uninstallation, then reinstall ubuntu-desktop.  That'll unmark everything requires.  Of course, I don't know if there's a problem wth that or not.
[01:58] <Fastly> doesn't work with either for me
[01:58] <Seveas> Stormx2, NO YOU CAN'T HAVE A PONY!
[01:58] <Stormx2> teckfatt: you'll be lucky if its the next hour
[01:58] <bruce89> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:58] <czambran> hyperactivecrond: what for?
[01:58] <Stormx2> :( But daadddyyyy
[01:58] <apokryphos> hyperactivecrond: nah, it's ok to have a little hype :)
[01:58] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, good luck with that ;)
[01:58] <GaiaX11> How do i recover my grub? apt-get install grub-install hd0?
[01:58] <Zambezi> Is somebody waiting here for Ubuntu? Acctually waiting until it comes?
[01:58] <Sammi84> Dapper Drake is out in 1 min!!!!
[01:58] <Roger_The_Bum> OMGPONIES
[01:58] <nbx909> ><
[01:58] <apokryphos> GaiaX11: /msg ubotu grub
[01:58] <sskroeder> Flannel, well it sounds like an idea to me ;-))
[01:58] <Seveas> Sammi84, +several hours
[01:58] <_clem> sskroeder: it won't remove things that are used. If you'll need them "later" they'll get reinstalled when needed. APT is great at that.
[01:58] <bruce89> especially iif you look at the testinbg data for the latest cd build...
[01:58] <apokryphos> Roger_The_Bum: ?
[01:58] <DarkTower> Sammi84: really?
[01:58] <Agrajag> no it's not.
[01:59] <Capn_Refsmmat> Sammi84: omgwtfbbq
[01:59] <kspath_> DarkTower: no
[01:59] <Sammi84> heheh according to fridge.ubuntu.com :)
[01:59] <Roger_The_Bum> do you read slashdot?
[01:59] <bruce89> yikes, it's hectic in here
[01:59] <gnomefreak> Sammi84: its not gonna be released in the next hr or 2 give it time
[01:59] <your_mom> i uninstalled xorg, so x is broken anyway to fix
[01:59] <sskroeder> Flannel, i'll try it out - see if it does the trick...
[01:59] <leon> dont really like the decayed font
[01:59] <Stormx2> Roger_The_Bum: You're asking someone on freenode. of course he reads slashdot
[01:59] <apokryphos> Sammi84: nope, that's nto really an announcement.
[01:59] <bruce89> fridge is just saying 00:00, as it the beginning of the day
[01:59] <Roger_The_Bum> yeah
[01:59] <rackerz> gnomefreak, are you talking about dapper?
[01:59] <Roger_The_Bum> but he didn't get OMG PONIES
[01:59] <bruce89> 1 would say about 11:00 Ut
[01:59] <gnomefreak> rackerz: yes
[01:59] <GaiaX11> apokryphos, ???!!!!
[01:59] <Flannel> your_mom: reinstall xorg.
[01:59] <Roger_The_Bum> 11:00???
[01:59] <rackerz> Thankyou :)
[01:59] <gnomefreak> rackerz: give it a few more hours
[01:59] <_clem> I don't read slashdot.... :
[01:59] <Stormx2> Roger_The_Bum: Oh that one was so funny!
[01:59] <Roger_The_Bum> wait...
[01:59] <Stormx2> Roger_The_Bum: Penis unicorns! XD~~~
[01:59] <hyperactivecrond> i say that we shoud celebrate the working on Edgy that starts tomorrow?
[01:59] <apokryphos> Roger_The_Bum: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for totally unrelated talk :)
[02:00] <apokryphos> GaiaX11: type /msg ubotu grub
[02:00] <bruce89> oh
[02:00] <hyperactivecrond> !tell Stormx2 about COC
[02:00] <Roger_The_Bum> 11 UTC?
[02:00] <TTT_Travis> too bad, ubuntu was supposed to be coming out right now
[02:00] <teckfatt> hahaha
[02:00] <Flannel> TTT_Travis: no it wasnt.
[02:00] <leon> where is it?
[02:00] <Roger_The_Bum> earlier or later?
[02:00] <GaiaX11> apokryphos, right!
[02:00] <TTT_Travis> yes it was
[02:00] <MTecknology> alright, to my previously stated question. can anybody direct me to a helpful channel?
[02:00] <kspath_> !topicsmite
[02:00] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kspath_
[02:00] <czambran> TTT_Travis: it will
[02:00] <TTT_Travis> thats what I heard
[02:00] <apokryphos> Guys: regarding the release time, please read the TOPIC :)
[02:00] <Ophiocus> hyperactivecrond: the efort to enforce that idea conterveins the fact that sometimes hapiness is expressed in havoc and that sometimes celebration overules orderly fashion
[02:00] <sapote1> # Ubuntu 6.06 Release(event)(NOW)
[02:00] <czambran> TTT_Travis:  but in a while
[02:00] <TTT_Travis> a while as in hours
[02:00] <Seveas> sapote1, NOW as in TODAY
[02:00] <thenetduck> hey is there going to be a Dapper countdown???
[02:00] <Seveas> thenetduck, no
[02:00] <crazybob> the fridge lied to us.. down with the fridge..
[02:00] <hyperactivecrond> Ophiocus: good point.
[02:00] <apokryphos> thenetduck: no
[02:00] <thenetduck> dang it
[02:00] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: no
[02:01] <czambran> TTT_Travis: yes, several
[02:01] <thenetduck> why bloody well not
[02:01] <bosco> the dapper release is soppesed to be min away
[02:01] <czambran> they are getting it all dapper
[02:01] <apokryphos> crazybob: nope, just the way it handles notes.
[02:01] <Stormx2> " ThePirateBay.org Raided and Shut Down" WTF!
[02:01] <Nullified> I changed my graphics card from a (AGP) 9800PRO to a (PCIE) X700PRO , X doesnt like this and refuses to run GDM, Is there anyway to make it boot as if it were the first time and let it configure itself
[02:01] <TTT_Travis> thats too bad
[02:01] <your_mom> i uninstalled xorg, so x is broken anyway to fix? please
[02:01] <crazybob> i know just messing
[02:01] <crazybob> :)
[02:01] <MTecknology> !topicsmite
[02:01] <kspath_> bosco: no
[02:01] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MTecknology
[02:01] <hyperactivecrond> thenetduck: hold your breath. we'll tell u when its ready. hlding your breath speeds up the process. seriously.
[02:01] <apokryphos> Stormx2: Swedish police ;-)
[02:01] <thenetduck> lol
[02:01] <thenetduck> im gasping
[02:01] <HedgeMage> your_mom: install xorg again :P
[02:01] <Flannel> the FRIDGE uses 00:00 as the default time for something that happens "on a day".
[02:01] <hyperactivecrond> MTecknology: that only works in #debian with !topicbanter
[02:01] <czambran> hyperactivecrond: ;)
[02:01] <bosco> kspath_, that is what they said in the dapper room
[02:01] <thenetduck> *holding breath now*
[02:01] <Stormx2> Oh man
[02:01] <Plouj> oh, I really don't know why, but Ubuntu 32bit is super slow compared to my Gentoo installed on the second system - right now, I'm compiling wine in ubuntu, and typing is awful due to the huge lag
[02:01] <HedgeMage> your_mom: apt-get install xorg
[02:01] <bruce89> I think that it would be a good idea if people needing support go to the forums
[02:01] <bruce89> mind you we are a bit preoccupied
[02:01] <_clem> you must hate fridge..... :))))
[02:02] <MTecknology> hyperactivecrond, what only works?
[02:02] <apokryphos> bruce89: nope, support is still fine here
[02:02] <eXistenZ> so
[02:02] <hyperactivecrond> _clem: lay off the excess punctuatoin
[02:02] <Roger_The_Bum> mmm fridger\
[02:02] <eXistenZ> we need dapper
[02:02] <thenetduck> * nots not coming soon enough i need to take a breath*
[02:02] <InvisiblePinkUni> are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet?
[02:02] <halibut> how many hours left? :D
[02:02] <hyperactivecrond> MTecknology: could you /msg me with what you mean
[02:02] <Flannel> topic people, read the topic.
[02:02] <Roger_The_Bum> why 11:00 UTC?
[02:02] <MTecknology> hyperactivecrond, what i mean for what?
[02:02] <apokryphos> InvisiblePinkUni, halibut: /topic
[02:02] <hyperactivecrond> !topicbanter
[02:02] <your_mom> i uninstalled xorg, so x is broken anyway to fix? please
[02:02] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hyperactivecrond
[02:02] <Roger_The_Bum> can't it be 10
[02:02] <Roger_The_Bum> or 10:30
[02:02] <Plouj> after installing dapper 6.06 all I did was install the nvidia drivers, so  my ubuntu isn't very much customized
[02:02] <leon> decayed font gone again
[02:02] <rackerz> alot of unhappy people in the forum :P
[02:02] <Roger_The_Bum> okay
[02:02] <bruce89> :(
[02:02] <InvisiblePinkUni> so it will be out in less than 12 hours?
[02:03] <apokryphos> Roger_The_Bum: please stop it :)
[02:03] <halibut> Plouj, 107+ ?
[02:03] <bruce89> maybe
[02:03] <teckfatt> i think so
[02:03] <apokryphos> InvisiblePinkUni: /topic
[02:03] <_clem> if asked so nicely, avec plaisir.
[02:03] <bruce89> but mabye not
[02:03] <Plouj> halibut: yes
[02:03] <eyequeue> I would guess business hours in .uk
[02:03] <hyperactivecrond> InvisiblePinkUni: coat yourself in peanut butter and go play with pitbulls. we'll tell you tomorrow when it's out
[02:03] <bruce89> that is in 8 hours
[02:03] <LinuxMonkey> I wish ubuntu would release it to us on mirc early...lol
[02:03] <bruce89> 9-5
[02:03] <bruce89> that is
[02:03] <teckfatt> time now at UK is 1:03am
[02:03] <keithg> What do you need to tell apt-get to install gnome?  I did a server install on my other hard drive by mistake.
[02:03] <apokryphos> LinuxMonkey: yuck, no mirc users here.
[02:03] <hyperactivecrond> LinuxMonkey: how canyou be on mIRC on linux?
[02:03] <mcscruff> teckfatt, 1:04 :P
[02:03] <Seveas> keithg, ubuntu-desktop
[02:03] <eyequeue> LinuxMonkey, what is mirc?
[02:03] <leon> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:03] <apokryphos> eyequeue: IRC client for Windoze
[02:03] <bruce89> 8 hours from now til 16 hours from now
[02:03] <mcscruff> eyequeue, mirc = a windows irc
[02:03] <Seveas> eyequeue, some crappy windows-only irc client
[02:03] <keithg> Seveas thanks.
[02:03] <LinuxMonkey> my bad i just woke up
[02:03] <BrianHH> Hi Everyone.  Can anyone help me getting my Palm to sync?  I've been trying to get it to attach to my docking station for my laptop.  When I run dmesg, it shows the Palm attaching to port ttyUSB1 *and* port ttyUSB2, and then disconnecting.  Can anyone help me unravel this?
[02:03] <LinuxMonkey> IRC
[02:04] <DarkTower> ban Mirc lol
[02:04] <apokryphos> which actually works in wine
[02:04] <dmbt> i don't like mirc
[02:04] <apokryphos> (but yes, don't use it)
[02:04] <DrewMarin> ok how do I get vba to run in a gui
[02:04] <DrewMarin> gvba wont work
[02:04] <dmbt> its just not as good as xchat or chatzilla
[02:04] <tyler_> waz up
[02:04] <InvisiblePinkUni> 898 users... is this a record?
[02:04] <leon> is this a joke? http://fridge.ubuntu.com/files/no-pony-for-you.jpg
[02:04] <apokryphos> InvisiblePinkUni: I think so, yes.
[02:04] <Seveas> InvisiblePinkUni, yes
[02:04] <firestorm> xchat for windows isnt free
[02:05] <Stormx2> oww bloody battery acid. i need a drink.
[02:05] <hyperactivecrond> people who wish to ask about when dapper is released... direct your output to /dev/null.
[02:05] <myleftfoot> 899
[02:05] <teckfatt> need to ask seveas
[02:05] <Capn_Refsmmat> firestorm: silverex.org
[02:05] <InvisiblePinkUni> 900 woo hooo
[02:05] <apokryphos> I'm sure we'll get way into the 900s at actual release time :)
[02:05] <Seveas> 26 users short of being the biggest channel on freenode
[02:05] <bimberi> I've not seen #ubuntu with more uses than #debian before
[02:05] <Klaynos> firestorm: there are good free builds
[02:05] <apokryphos> Seveas: #gentoo still bigger?
[02:05] <Stormx2> Ill advertise
[02:05] <Seveas> apokryphos, slightly
[02:05] <crimsun> Seveas: won't hold for long :-)
[02:05] <Seveas> crimsun, yeah
[02:05] <apokryphos> bimberi: it has in the last few weeks or so
[02:05] <bruce89> 900s now
[02:05] <apokryphos> A lot of /. publicity
[02:05] <DrewMarin> how do I get the command gvba to work
[02:05] <bruce89> oops
[02:05] <Ophiocus> will we be graced with a few words from Shuttleworth in here? would be neat
[02:05] <bruce89> 899 now
[02:05] <Klaynos> and I see I've beating silverx.org into Capn_Refsmmat enough for him to link it...
[02:05] <_clem> DrewMarin: what is gvba ?
[02:05] <hyperactivecrond> #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic banter. please. it's too loud in here
[02:05] <Plouj> how do I disable shift+backspace zapping?
[02:06] <apokryphos> how many times have you heard there being /. entry that "Distro X WILL be released in the next week"?
[02:06] <bimberi> apokryphos: it will change a lot on June 4 (when they point to OFTC)
[02:06] <Capn_Refsmmat> Klaynos: :D
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond> Plouj: don't use XGL
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond> :)
[02:06] <bruce89> not yest shuttleworth i dont think
[02:06] <Plouj> hyperactivecrond: ah, must be!
[02:06] <apokryphos> bimberi: OFTC?
[02:06] <tyler_> waz up
[02:06] <DrewMarin> well I have vba but last time I had visual boy advance gvba was a way to get a graphic interface with it
[02:06] <Plouj> darn thing
[02:06] <porjo> Is there an alternative panel Clock to the default? I prefer the look of KDE's Clock with the LCD look. Is there something similar for gnome?
[02:06] <bruce89> not that i know of
[02:06] <tyler_> waz up im new to linux
[02:06] <bruce89> good
[02:06] <DrewMarin> me to tyler
[02:06] <Stormx2> hi tyler_
[02:06] <DrewMarin> 4 days
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond>  /. should do a story: "chaos in #ubuntu"
[02:06] <Stormx2> 6 months heh
[02:06] <LinuxMonkey> apokryphos i heard it on digg about 49 times...lol just for 6.06...lol
[02:06] <Stormx2> loving it ;-)
[02:06] <Slappy> n99b here too
[02:06] <hyperactivecrond> before the release
[02:06] <bruce89> 4.5 months
[02:06] <Slappy> err n00b
[02:07] <_clem> DrewMarin: oh ok. I remember using vba.. I don't know about gvba though.
[02:07] <Stormx2> n99b
[02:07] <Stormx2> XD
[02:07] <teckfatt> 901 now
[02:07] <Stormx2> Oww drink
[02:07] <Stormx2> Must... get... water
[02:07] <Seveas> you really are a n00b if you write n00b as n99b 
[02:07] <DrewMarin> some guy told me try gvba and i was like ok and it didnt work
[02:07] <bruce89> I (kinda) used waty
[02:07] <bruce89> *warty
[02:07] <DrewMarin> then he said do this
[02:07] <DrewMarin> and I did and hey it worked
[02:07] <rackerz> everyone seen the forums? No pony xD
[02:07] <bruce89> aw
[02:07] <Stormx2> Ghetto_Smurf rofl
[02:07] <DrewMarin> clem: ever tried using gnomeboyadvance it never installs for me
[02:07] <Stormx2> That has to be the best name ever
[02:07] <kingroach> is 6.06 release on may,31 or june,1?
[02:07] <hyperactivecrond>  /. has changed it's css
[02:08] <Seveas> kingroach, in less than 24 hours
[02:08] <nbx909> june 1st edt
[02:08] <DrewMarin> kingroach u can get it now
[02:08] <eyequeue> kingroach, today, june
[02:08] <Ghetto_Smurf> Stormx2 ?
[02:08] <nbx909> er
[02:08] <DarkTower> how do ytou get that cool graphical stuff hapnin in dapper. you know xgl or watever
[02:08] <DrewMarin> I have it
[02:08] <DrewMarin> just upgrade
[02:08] <hyperactivecrond> kingroach: never. bird flue came and infected the drake.
[02:08] <nbx909> june 1st zulu
[02:08] <teckfatt> stormx2: depend where you are
[02:08] <kingroach> is there any link to the final iso
[02:08] <eyequeue> hyperactivecrond, cute
[02:08] <bruce89> whats the pony thing all about
[02:08] <bimberi> ubotu tell DrewMarin about xgl
[02:08] <hyperactivecrond> kkingroach: when it's ready there will be
[02:08] <kingroach> I have been waiting for few week sof r the final build..lol
[02:08] <_clem> DrewMarin: no.. I messed a bit with emulators, but in the end of the day, I only sticked to scummvm and my Atari ST emulator (to play Colonial Conquest.. which I'll port to PC one of these days)
[02:08] <ompaul> nbx909, its been there 8 minutes ago
[02:08] <Rambo3> class A professional forum
[02:08] <DrewMarin> atari is fun
[02:09] <Newbify2> lol is that picture of the girl crying on the forums "No you can't have a pony" new?
[02:09] <DarkTower> Do i need to install it?
[02:09] <_clem> DrewMarin: although I really like Tennis on the game boy :)
[02:09] <Rambo3> c64 emulator is good too
[02:09] <DrewMarin> I have my parents atari 2600 but I need to get one of the cords replaced
[02:09] <nbx909> ompaul, no it's not on
[02:09] <ubuntu> hola
[02:09] <Hitchhiker> Will Dapper Drake come with xgl?
[02:09] <ubuntu> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL
[02:09] <Flannel> alright, guys, take the game talk to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:09] <ubuntu> ??????????????
[02:09] <Flannel> Hitchhiker: no.  Edgy will.
[02:09] <LinuxMonkey> are the servers that will distribute the dapper on dapper them self or atleast running ubuntu?
[02:09] <dmbt>  Hitchhiker :no
[02:09] <Roger_The_Bum> yo lo hablo
[02:09] <DrewMarin> of I have seen the movie of xgl its awsome
[02:09] <coolguy> hola amigo
[02:09] <czambran> Does anybody know why would my mic stop working all of the sudden?
[02:09] <Rambo3> !ops
[02:09] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[02:09] <ubuntu> Hola
[02:09] <hyperactivecrond> !es
[02:09] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:09] <Seveas> Rambo3, ?
[02:09] <crimsun> LinuxMonkey: no.
[02:09] <andrejkw> Yay!
[02:09] <bruce89> and even in edgy XGL will have to be optional
[02:09] <bruce89> sort of
[02:09] <andrejkw> They're preparing for Dapper Drake now!!
[02:10] <SurfnKid> !deb
[02:10] <_clem> ubuntu : si, pero la gente habla ingles aqui. Por favor, va a #ubuntu-es
[02:10] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[02:10] <hyperactivecrond> !tell SurfnKid about msgthebot
[02:10] <ubuntu> Lo que pasa es que es la primera vez que uso ubuntu para chatear
[02:10] <DrewMarin> what does it do exactly I saw the trailer but didnt understand it
[02:10] <bruce89> 8-16 hours i say
[02:10] <ubuntu> !!1
[02:10] <Rambo3> sry , thougt i would list ops to see if i had to listen to flannel
[02:10] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ubuntu
[02:10] <Roger_The_Bum> !tell Roger_The_Bum about msgthebot
[02:10] <Hitchhiker> Of course, at this point, XGL really needs to be optional... I just tried it with SuSE 10.1, and XGL is very beta...
[02:10] <Flannel> bruce89: it'll always be optional.  But it will be supported on edgy, you can get it to work on dapper, but it's not supported.
[02:10] <SurfnKid> whats that command dpkg to unzip and setup *.deb files
[02:10] <apokryphos> Rambo3: you should use /chanserv access #channel list
[02:10] <nbx909> ubuntu, no hablamos espanol
[02:10] <eyequeue> i've got a question on the dapper cdimage ... is there a way to d/l the parts that won't change, only grabbing the "this is the final release" parts later? (to get ready to seed a torrent in a few hours)?
[02:10] <DarkTower> i thought dapper supported xgl
[02:10] <DrewMarin> what is xgl for just fun
[02:10] <[zero] > :( I broke my pc
[02:10] <nbx909> !es
[02:10] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:11] <Ademan> is it a bad idea to install a package from a *.deb file (not from the repository) ? will it be easy to remove? will i theoretically be able to install the next version without installing the old? do ineed to keep the old package around?
[02:11] <Flannel> DrewMarin: google it, there's a video, you really have to see it.  It's eyecandy, basically.
[02:11] <bimberi> eyequeue: yes, using rsync
[02:11] <DrewMarin> yea I have seen the video
[02:11] <DrewMarin> looked awsome
[02:11] <hyperactivecrond> Por favor, no abusar ud. el bot.
[02:11] <crimsun> just rysnc from the daily
[02:11] <DarkTower> yes but how do u inswtall xgl on dapper?
[02:11] <DrewMarin> Ill look for it now
[02:11] <bruce89> over 900 again
[02:11] <Flannel> DarkTower: #ubuntu-xgl
[02:11] <hyperactivecrond> god i suck @ spanish
[02:11] <krazykit> Ademan: only bad if the deb installs libraries or something.  if it's a program, it's /usually/ ok.
[02:11] <dmbt> wow, 900 people in this room
[02:11] <apokryphos> DarkTower: /msg ubotu xgl
[02:11] <bruce89> let's see if we can get over 10000
[02:11] <DrewMarin> since I upgraded to 6.06 lts today
[02:11] <bruce89> *1000
[02:11] <eyequeue> bimberi, ah yes, makes sense, thanks for reminding me of what i should have already known :)
[02:11] <Hitchhiker> XGL renders your entire X session through OpenGL, so you can do all kinds of crazy stuff like wobbly windows, switching desktops on a 3d cube, transparencies, etc.
[02:11] <Alexiel> .list
[02:11] <Alexiel> oops
[02:11] <crimsun> 10k would be a bit much.
[02:11] <Hitchhiker> It's pretty fast, too
[02:11] <DarkTower> !xgl
[02:11] <ubotu> hmm... xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[02:11] <dark-messias> alguem do brasil?
[02:11] <hyperactivecrond> !pg
[02:11] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hyperactivecrond
[02:11] <dmbt> will we hit 1000 users in this room?
[02:11] <ubuntu> YO SOY URUGUAYA
[02:12] <hyperactivecrond> !pr
[02:12] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:12] <eyequeue> !.br
[02:12] <ubotu> eyequeue: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:12] <caldo> not at 0:00 whats the fun in that then? i was going to have a dapper drake countdown party!
[02:12] <bruce89> mabye
[02:12] <eyequeue> !br
[02:12] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:12] <hyperactivecrond> !pt
[02:12] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:12] <bimberi> eyequeue: that's what i'm here for - now don't forget the milk :P
[02:12] <charle97> !dapper
[02:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[02:12] <sapote1> #ubuntu-es
[02:12] <DrewMarin> ok why isnt xgl in synapatic I have 6.06 lts
[02:12] <Jeeves_> caldo: I agree
[02:12] <crimsun> DrewMarin: enable universe
[02:12] <hyperactivecrond> !tell DrewMarin about XGL
[02:12] <Jeeves_> There should have been a countdown party
[02:12] <LinuxJones> God there are 900 people in here
[02:12] <hyperactivecrond> no ponies for you
[02:12] <Ademan> krazykit: ok, what would the case be that it wouldnt be?
[02:12] <caldo> still, i'm getting rip roaringly drunk in anticipation :-)
[02:12] <DrewMarin> i know about xgl
[02:12] <Flannel> Jeeves_: that would require us to know when it'll be released.
[02:12] <dmbt> we should play that song 'Final Contdown' in the party
[02:12] <caldo> that and half life episode one should come out tomorrow
[02:12] <apokryphos> DrewMarin: go to #ubuntu-xgl
[02:12] <Seveas> "The suspense is killing us"
[02:13] <DShepherd> LinuxJones: yes God knows. no need to remind him :-)
[02:13] <caldo> june 1 is good to geeks
[02:13] <hyperactivecrond> that should be a #ubuntu inside joke like "Ramone" on opie and anthony.
[02:13] <DrewMarin> k
[02:13] <chuck> preist rocks
[02:13] <LinuxJones> :)
[02:13] <hyperactivecrond> the whole pony thing
[02:13] <krazykit> Ademan: some programs depend on different library versions and will simply die.
[02:13] <Jeeves_> Flannel: They've had 8 months to figure that out :)
[02:13] <dmbt> will we beat #gentoo in users?
[02:13] <rackerz> Their all wanting Dapper, but their not getting!
[02:13] <caldo> barbie horse adventure?
[02:13] <crimsun> Seveas: but I want dapper /now/!
[02:13] <Stormx2> !tell hyperactivecrond about coc
[02:13] <crimsun> and a pony
[02:13] <BadriNarayan> What is the typical number of people on this channel?
[02:13] <caldo> !lart all
[02:13] <dark-messias> thank you
[02:13] <bimberi> yeah, c'mon Seveas!
[02:13] <crimsun> ow
[02:13] <Stormx2> lmao
[02:13] <krazykit> dmbt: gentoo only has 883 users
[02:13] <hyperactivecrond> Stormx2: can i /msg you
[02:13] <dmbt> BadriNarayan: i think its usually less than 700
[02:13] <apokryphos> BadriNarayan: under 800 or so
[02:13] <Seveas> BadriNarayan, 700-800
[02:13] <Jeeves_> Seveas: Still not sleeping?
[02:13] <caldo> phh
[02:13] <_clem> I want my Dapper now !!! If you're not giving it to me, I'm going to bed ! End of story !
[02:13] <caldo> pitiful gentoo
[02:13] <Ademan> krazykit: but as far as a program... do i need to keep the *.deb around to uninstall?
[02:13] <Seveas> Jeeves_, no
[02:13] <apokryphos> krazykit: no, it has 922
[02:13] <Stormx2> hyperactivecrond: You can try
[02:13] <_clem> ok I'm going to bed...
[02:13] <_clem> :)
[02:13] <Jeeves_> Seveas: You were awfully quiet :)
[02:13] <DShepherd> krazykit: its 900 plus.. i just checked
[02:14] <LinuxMonkey> im just waiting for someone to blurt out... Its up its up. and be a joke and have all of ya rush to the website...lol
[02:14] <rackerz> Can I have a pony :D
[02:14] <Stormx2> ok, night nigh _clem!
[02:14] <Hitchhiker> Amusingly, I'm looking to try Ubuntu for the first time today, since I've gotten rather disgusted with SuSE 10.1... synchornicity for dapper :)
[02:14] <BadriNarayan> Thank you. Then 900 isn't extraordinarily high?
[02:14] <Seveas> Jeeves_, heh 
[02:14] <nbx909> 902 people lol
[02:14] <DrewMarin> _clem: u can update to it I got 6.06 lts
[02:14] <krazykit> DShepherd and apokryphos i just checked too :-P
[02:14] <_clem> gnight guys :)
[02:14] <rixxon> what do i need to extract a rar split to multiple archives (.rar .r00 .r01 ...)?
[02:14] <caldo> just put opera on a 5 second refresh
[02:14] <DShepherd> krazykit: :-)
[02:14] <tested2> Slightly off topic but anyone know how I can have xchat only highlight a channel when my nick is mentioned?
[02:14] <crimsun> rixxon: unrar-nonfree in breezy.
[02:14] <rixxon> crimsun: nonfree?
[02:14] <_clem> I know I know... but I want to review the graphical installer.. :)
[02:14] <apokryphos> caldo: it'll still be quite a few hours
[02:14] <paradon> From memory, Breezy was released at 0700 UTC, so there'll probably still be a big wait for Dapper :-(
[02:14] <crimsun> rixxon: the name of breezy's package is 'unrar-nonfree', in multiverse
[02:14] <Flannel> tested2: it does that by default.  the red highlight.
[02:14] <_clem> see you tomorrow. Patience is a vertue (or something like that..). :)
[02:14] <krazykit> Ademan: no, you don't.  the uninstall stuff sticks around.  you just need to remove it with your favorite method, be that synaptic or dpkg
[02:15] <crimsun> rixxon: the dapper one is 'unrar', also in multiverse
[02:15] <rixxon> crimsun: does it mean it is not free? :P
[02:15] <tested2> Flannel, yeah but I only want it to highlight then
[02:15] <Flannel> rixxon: Free as in speech, not free as in beer, in that case.
[02:15] <caldo> i need dapper, i have a memory leak on this machine with 382 days of uptime
[02:15] <bruce89> you can watch with this eye
[02:15] <DShepherd> _clem: virtue.. that's better :-)
[02:15] <hyperactivecrond> apt-get install pacman
[02:15] <bruce89> or with this eye
[02:15] <crimsun> rixxon: no, the packager was angry he didn't get a pony and randomly appended the "-nonfree" part.
[02:15] <caldo> it's going down fast!
[02:15] <tested2> Im talking about the channel name in the tabs not the text box
[02:15] <guano> well ... i guess i found out everything  need to know.. it won't be a midnight release :(
[02:15] <rixxon> heh
[02:15] <Ademan> krazykit: i'm not entirely comfortable with dpkg so, is there a way in synaptic i can view all of my installed packages?
[02:16] <eric> can anyone tell me if its possible to instal shockwave player on ubuntu ????
[02:16] <hyperactivecrond> pacman -Sy apt-get
[02:16] <DShepherd> Ademan: yes..
[02:16] <Seveas> eric, it's not
[02:16] <bruce89> nope 8-16 hours away i would predixt
[02:16] <Stormx2> No release parties in England. What a suprise
[02:16] <bruce89> any bets?
[02:16] <hyperactivecrond> pacman -R apt-get *
[02:16] <hollywoodb> tested2: it'll highlight in red for activity, blue if your name has been mentioned
[02:16] <Flannel> tested2: right, doesn't the text of the tab go red (as opposed to black) when you've been mentioned? (sorry, It's been a while since Ive used xchat)
[02:16] <ollo82> pacman is from arch linux, right?
[02:16] <caldo> apt-get install dapper damnit!
[02:16] <LinuxMonkey> c'mon the suspence killed me allready, im am now a ghost...im sure the iso's are all ready on the server and been locked for the past day
[02:16] <crimsun> bruce89: yeah, that's pretty close.
[02:16] <dark-messias> como escrever em fat32 a partir do ubuntu?
[02:16] <DarkTower> can ekiga be used to call phones by having a paid for account with a provider?
[02:16] <bruce89> I say we should have a wiki page which guesses whenreleases happen
[02:16] <MTecknology> where is ubuntus bug database
[02:16] <DarkTower> like skyupe
[02:16] <bruce89> like the million pool in WP
[02:16] <BadriNarayan> hyperactivecrond: I think the pacman in ubuntu is not what you think it is :p
[02:16] <Flannel> MTecknology: launchpad
[02:16] <bruce89> etc.
[02:16] <Seveas> MTecknology, bugs.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <crimsun> LinuxMonkey: yes, they're being rsynced around the world
[02:17] <myleftfoot> caldo: you need dapper or I diaper for the leak?
[02:17] <MTecknology> ty
[02:17] <mcmahons> LinuxMonkey: the devs are all just sitting in this channel laughing at us
[02:17] <DShepherd> Ademan:  just click the status button
[02:17] <hyperactivecrond> btw what does LTS mean?
[02:17] <krazykit> Ademan: i'm unfamiliar with synaptic, sorry.  don't recall where it'll show, but it will
[02:17] <eric> so there is no way at all that i can view shockwave files then ????
[02:17] <krazykit> hyperactivecrond: long term support
[02:17] <Flannel> hyperactivecrond: Long Term Support
[02:17] <bruce89> mmm
[02:17] <mcmahons> long term support
[02:17] <tested2> Flannel yes it work what im trying to do is disable all other highlighting essentially
[02:17] <eyequeue> hyperactivecrond, long term support
[02:17] <hyperactivecrond> that works
[02:17] <DShepherd> Ademan: you got that?
[02:17] <bruce89> Long Term Support!
[02:17] <magic> Hi guys!
[02:17] <Seveas> LONG TERM SUSPENSE
[02:17] <Stormx2> Hi magic!
[02:17] <bruce89> helop
[02:17] <mcmahons> hahaha
[02:17] <LinuxMonkey> I wonder how long before we overload the servers with download requests when it gets released
[02:17] <Ademan> DShepherd: yeah, thanks, i was installing the package
[02:17] <BrianHH> Can anyone help me figure out where my Palm is installed on my system?  I went through the Palm HOWTO and aside from reminding me to install pilot-xfer, it didn't really illuminate anything for me.
[02:17] <bruce89> wel not that long
[02:17] <Hitchhiker> With SuSE, you have to use outside repositories (which may be flaky) for stuff like video and audio codecs.  Does the Ubuntu team manage this multiverse thing?
[02:17] <Stormx2> Its magic... you know
[02:17] <DShepherd> Ademan: ok
[02:18] <Stormx2> Never beleive its not so...
[02:18] <Bung> i just installed conky with synaptic, but i dont see a .conky or .conkyrc in my ~/ ... so uh, where do i configure the one i see when i run it?
[02:18] <Stormx2> I should sleep
[02:18] <alex_> hello
[02:18] <Stormx2> >.<
[02:18] <rixxon> crimsun: im on dapper rc, E: Package unrar has no installation candidat
[02:18] <apokryphos> Hitchhiker: for some things which are illegal to have in the repositories, yes.
[02:18] <bruce89> me too
[02:18] <apokryphos> rixxon: install unrar-nonfree
[02:18] <crimsun> !info unrar dapper
[02:18] <DrewMarin> you know Im bored of linux gonna go into linux cya guys tommorow
[02:18] <Seveas> !info unrar dapper
[02:18] <ubotu> unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[02:18] <crimsun> rixxon: ^^ note the multiverse.
[02:18] <rixxon> crimsun: multiverse enabled
[02:19] <Stormx2> rixxon: have you sudo apt-get update since?
[02:19] <apokryphos> rixxon: my mistake; you just have to enable multiverse.
[02:19] <crimsun> rixxon: dapper or dapper-updates or dapper-backports? :-)
[02:19] <rixxon> E: Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate
[02:19] <tested2> Would some one be so kind as to say my nick in 30 seconds want to see if the change I mae worked
[02:19] <rixxon> uhm
[02:19] <apokryphos> rixxon: /msg ubotu repositories
[02:19] <hollywoodb> Bung: I don't remember if its in /usr/share/conky, or /etc/conky*, but there's a file somewhere you can copy to ~/.conkyrc to edit
[02:19] <kspath_> my nick
[02:19] <keherman> Is Ubuntu Live Chat Support in Dapper?
[02:19] <crimsun> rixxon: it's "unrar" in dapper.
[02:19] <rackerz> how come http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org is gone?
[02:19] <Seveas> keherman, no
[02:19] <keherman> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport
[02:19] <carthik> tested2, testing
[02:19] <Lathiat> tested2
[02:19] <hazart> tested2: :P
[02:19] <bruce89> tested2
[02:19] <Slappy> tested2
[02:19] <Seveas> rackerz, cdimage.ubuntu.com
[02:19] <Stormx2> tested2
[02:19] <Ophiocus> tested2:
[02:19] <tested2> Thanks, Everyone it worked
[02:19] <Nosgoth> I wish I could wait quietly
[02:19] <Hitchhiker> apokryphos: What do you mean?  Looking on the wiki, multiverse is the "repo of last resort" for Ubuntu, if I'm understanding this right, so w32codec and stuff would probably be there... but who manages Multiverse, is what I'm asking...
[02:19] <rackerz> Yeah that's what I thought.
[02:19] <bruce89> enough timesfor you?
[02:19] <DShepherd> tested2:
[02:19] <rixxon> crimsun: apokryphos told me to install nonfree :P
[02:19] <Seveas> tested2,
[02:19] <magic> Hey I downloaded the iso file from ubunto doenloads, the thing is that the file size is 839.1 MB, so I am unable to burn it on a CD because the CDs are capable of 700MB, did I downloaded a wrong iso?
[02:19] <DShepherd> tested2: hehehe
[02:20] <Ubugtu> tested2
[02:20] <Stormx2> wtf?
[02:20] <BadriNarayan> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ exists
[02:20] <moonman> hows everyone tonight?
[02:20] <Stormx2> Ubugtu said it?
[02:20] <bruce89> i'm sure that's often enouugh
[02:20] <Stormx2> lol
[02:20] <DShepherd> tested2: should we stop now?
[02:20] <tested2> I just set all other highlights to black cause im a genius or an idiot depending on the way you look at it
[02:20] <Ubugtu> Stormx2
[02:20] <carthik> Hitchhiker, multiverse is managed by ubuntu, and no it doesn't have w32codecs and other legally unsound stuff
[02:20] <sexcopter8000m> wow, 911 people in here... more than i've ever seen! 
[02:20] <apokryphos> Hitchhiker: no, things like libdvdcss and w32codecs (which are illegal in many places) are not there, since they're not legal to have.
[02:20] <hyperactivecrond> your mom's box
[02:20] <rixxon> Stormx2: did that now, same error
[02:20] <Stormx2> HE SAID MY NAME!! <3<3<3
[02:20] <bruce89> ?
[02:20] <Stormx2> :O
[02:20] <hazart> We're waiting for the dapper to fly off!
[02:20] <apokryphos> sexcopter8000m: more than there's ever been :)
[02:20] <dmbt> dude, whats with the no you can't have a pony thing
[02:20] <Stormx2> That is unnecessy sexual contact!
[02:20] <hyperactivecrond> hey the iso is online. shouldn't it be released then?
[02:20] <Stormx2> Bad bot!
[02:20] <dmbt> on ubuntuforums?
[02:20] <Stormx2> very bad bot!
[02:20] <Hitchhiker> apokryphos: Then how would you play movies or mp3s on Ubuntu?
[02:21] <hyperactivecrond> Stormx2: chill
[02:21] <gilianima> I have recoded some text files that contains french and chinese with 'recode euc-cn..utf8 -f *', it worked well for chinese but not for french, does someone understand that ?
[02:21] <bruce89> blooming heck, soon it wioll be
[02:21] <apokryphos> hyperactivecrond: where?
[02:21] <Stormx2> Ubugtu: Go to my room!
[02:21] <Agrajag> Hitchhiker: by breaking the law, of course
[02:21] <hazart> Anyone who noted the "No you can't have a pony" on the forums? It's gone now :P
[02:21] <apokryphos> Hitchhiker: mp3 codecs are not illegal, and in fact there are free mp3 codecs
[02:21] <bruce89> flp
[02:21] <Ubugtu> with pleasure!
[02:21] <bruce89> sorry - test
[02:21] <paul_> How do you enable dvd playback in ubuntu using totem movie player?
[02:21] <hyperactivecrond> dop'h nvm
[02:21] <dmbt> what was the ubuntofroums pony thing?
[02:21] <hyperactivecrond> d'oh*
[02:21] <hyperactivecrond> sorry
[02:21] <bruce89> i dont know
[02:21] <hyperactivecrond> and also, who'se abusing Ubugtu?
[02:21] <Stormx2> last.fm gives away ponies
[02:21] <Stormx2> ^_^
[02:22] <crimsun> Ubugtu's owner is.
[02:22] <kspath_> !tell dmbt about pony
[02:22] <Ubugtu> Stormx2 is abusing me
[02:22] <apokryphos> paul_: /msg ubotu restricted
[02:22] <T-CAN> ubotu tell Hitchhiker about restrictedformats
[02:22] <sutur> i want one (pony)
[02:22] <gnomefreak> lmao
[02:22] <Stormx2> Its not abuse
[02:22] <hazart> This picture was on the front page of the forums : http://www.hadess.net/blog/images/cant-have-a-pony.png
[02:22] <bruce89> i what way
[02:22] <Stormx2> Now lets get out the sun before I melt
[02:22] <rackerz> dmbt, it's a joke from the Fridge :D
[02:22] <Hitchhiker> apokryphos: Of course... and frankly I'm not concerned about the FBI raiding me over libdvdcss, but I'm just waiting on Dapper to try my hand at Ubuntu, and I'm wondering what Ubuntu's procedure for that stuff is
[02:22] <guano> hyperactivecrond where did you see the iso?
[02:22] <dmbt> oh
[02:22] <bruce89> out the moon more like
[02:22] <rackerz> I don't think he really saw the iso
[02:22] <ompaul> crimsun, that is not funny but it is true :-) well done, you did some really good stuff there
[02:22] <hyperactivecrond> guano: false alarm.
[02:22] <Stormx2> You see, Ubugtu, I never had a childhood
[02:22] <Hitchhiker> Ah, here we are, thanks for the URL :)
[02:22] <hyperactivecrond> TO Clarify:
[02:22] <hazart> What exactly is the fridge? Some core community og COOL developers?
[02:22] <T-CAN> NP
[02:22] <YoManWazap> dmbt I guess cause time is over and the release in not yet out!!
[02:22] <ompaul> crimsun, that was two statements :-)
[02:22] <apokryphos> Hitchhiker: all you should ever need, really, is the normal repositories (with multiverse etc), and Seveas' repository. See /msg ubotu seveas
[02:22] <T-CAN> its a pretty simple process
[02:23] <bruce89> i doubtthe FBI will raid you
[02:23] <BadriNarayan> thanks for the link, hyperactivecrond
[02:23] <crimsun> ompaul: no idea what you're referring to :-)
[02:23] <paul_> ./msg unbuntu restricted
[02:23] <guano> hyperactivecrond :( i've been searching for a "misplaced" final iso ;)
[02:23] <BadriNarayan> why do you not want it to be public though?
[02:23] <Hitchhiker> Thanks
[02:23] <ompaul> paul_, without the .
[02:23] <hyperactivecrond> there is NO iso yet!
[02:23] <T-CAN> so whats the next release gunna be? Crappy Camel?
[02:23] <rixxon> on dapper, multiverse enabled, apt-get updated, unrar not found. suggestions? :)
[02:23] <hyperactivecrond> T-CAN: don't hate.
[02:23] <bruce89> We're all just tiny multiple bleeps of laser traveling to/from any two energy sources, think about it, I did and I thought, shouldn't that be travelling?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell paul_ -about restricted
[02:23] <hyperactivecrond> T-CAN: edgy eft
[02:23] <apokryphos> T-CAN: Edgy Eft
[02:23] <bruce89> where
[02:23] <paul_> Yea please do
[02:24] <T-CAN> nice
[02:24] <Stormx2> I wanted Perky Penguin :(
[02:24] <Hitchhiker> rixxon: Try looking for just 'rar', perhaps?
[02:24] <T-CAN> haha
[02:24] <hyperactivecrond> !tell paul_ about restricted
[02:24] <Belathor> After that they should do Prancing Pony, so we can have are ponies!
[02:24] <bruce89> oh welll edgy+1 might be perky
[02:24] <gnomefreak> paul_: i already did
[02:24] <kspath_> Stormx2: that will take several years
[02:24] <Stormx2> I hope so
[02:24] <hyperactivecrond> who is getting ubugtu to be creepy?
[02:24] <Seveas> edgy+1 will be furry
[02:24] <rixxon> Hitchhiker: nothing found
[02:24] <gumpish> prancing pony, rofl
[02:24] <Stormx2> lmao!
[02:24] <Lathiat> lol gumpish
[02:24] <hyperactivecrond> no pony for us
[02:24] <s|k> lol
[02:24] <hyperactivecrond> for we
[02:24] <Stormx2> Umm
[02:24] <hyperactivecrond> whatever
[02:24] <Ophiocus> Stormx2: you should have realised by now that they follow an alphabetic order?
[02:24] <Belathor> :D
[02:24] <bruce89> tested2
[02:24] <hazart> Do somebody have a patch to make the taskbar fully transparent? Right now mine has some non translucent corners around the window list.
[02:24] <Nosgoth> My wine's not gonna last forever (please Cannonical, It's just a click away)
[02:24] <crimsun> that silly Ubugtu bot.
[02:24] <crimsun> =] 
[02:24] <Stormx2> Ophiocus: w h b d?
[02:24] <Hitchhiker> What the heck is an Eft, anyway?
[02:25] <hyperactivecrond> crimsun: how?
[02:25] <YoManWazap> i want my pony NOW!!!! grrrrrr
[02:25] <bruce89> gecko
[02:25] <Ubugtu> !lart crimsun
[02:25] <bruce89> or a newt
[02:25] <T-CAN> so what was between breezy badger and dapper drake?
[02:25] <hyperactivecrond> YoManWazap: no pony for you
[02:25] <bruce89> a young one
[02:25] <Ubugtu> I'm not silly
[02:25] <gnomefreak> Hitchhiker: a small newt
[02:25] <sutur> me i guess
[02:25] <Stormx2> Ophiocus: Are you using dvorak or something?
[02:25] <Flannel> Nosgoth: it's more than just them 'releasing' it.   They have to finish it and upload, and stuff.
[02:25] <Hitchhiker> Ah, thanks
[02:25] <gnomefreak> very small
[02:25] <mock_turtle> hi
[02:25] <crimsun> hyperactivecrond: how what?
[02:25] <bruce89> lots of difference
[02:25] <gumpish> what about hoary hedgehog? NOT ALPHABETIC
[02:25] <Stormx2> Ubugtu come closer <3
[02:25] <DShepherd> hi
[02:25] <hyperactivecrond> crimsun: sorry i thought you did that nvm
[02:25] <bruce89> smoketesting and all
[02:25] <Flannel> T-CAN: ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta for a bunch of changes
[02:25] <Ophiocus> Stormx2: exactly ! its a md5 encrypted pass phrase for the string "bug#1"
[02:25] <Nosgoth> Flannel, u'r right.
[02:25] <apokryphos> mirrors have to sync etc
[02:25] <apokryphos> (quite a lot of ISOs this time round)
[02:25] <bruce89> oy
[02:26] <Ophiocus> <-urban legend maker :P
[02:26] <Flannel> gumpish: they started the alphabetical stuff after Hoary.
[02:26] <l_r> is dapper drake ready
[02:26] <Stormx2> Ophiocus: abuh?
[02:26] <bruce89> no
[02:26] <gnomefreak> gumpish: its not gonna be nor ever was alphabetical
[02:26] <LinuxMonkey> Flannel you know they allready have it uploaded for a day or so, they just got to sync it first
[02:26] <rixxon> don't tell me unability to extract a rar archive will be the reason i switch back to windows :(
[02:26] <jrasith> hello all
[02:26] <bruce89> 914 now
[02:26] <Harold_P> rixxon, get unrar
[02:26] <rixxon> Harold_P: that's the problem
[02:26] <dmbt> rixxon: unrar
[02:26] <Hitchhiker> So it's Gory Gabon after Edgy Eft? :)
[02:26] <gnomefreak> l_r: its ready just not final release
[02:26] <bruce89> could be
[02:26] <DShepherd> rixxon: heheh
[02:26] <r0xz> l_r: no, read toppic
[02:26] <guano> ?? there are dapper iso's on isohunt.com ... 11 hours old...
[02:26] <Harold_P> you can't apt-get install unrar, rixxon?
[02:26] <megabyte405> rixxon: unrar-free , or unrar-nonfree if you need support for the latest rar version
[02:26] <crimsun> Hitchhiker: no, hanged hitchhiker
[02:26] <Stormx2> Amazing Antalope
[02:26] <hyperactivecrond> guano: warez. haxx.
[02:27] <Hitchhiker> haha
[02:27] <bruce89> daily disk i think
[02:27] <rixxon> megabyte405: unrar-free can't extract splitted archive, no?
[02:27] <rackerz> warez rulezzz
[02:27] <fiendskull9> !mp3
[02:27] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:27] <gnomefreak> gumpish: theres dapper isos on ubuntu.com sites too
[02:27] <YoManWazap> l_r no the they keep the pony hiding
[02:27] <hyperactivecrond> Creepy Channelusers
[02:27] <megabyte405> rixxon: no clue, I don't really use rar
[02:27] <apokryphos> rackerz: no warez talk in here please :)
[02:27] <T-CAN> hahaha
[02:27] <guano> they're hosted from torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce
[02:27] <hyperactivecrond> !tell fiendskull9 about msgthebot
[02:27] <apokryphos> rixxon: what's the problem?
[02:27] <gumpish> someone told me gullible isn't in the dictionary
[02:27] <bruce89> yikes whats all the warez all about now, I thought ubuntu negates the "need" for i
[02:27] <DShepherd> rixxon: do you have the multiverse repository in your source list?
[02:27] <jrasith> any idea on what time the bit torrents will be up?
[02:27] <Hitchhiker> Could one of the gui archive managers read rar, perhaps?
[02:27] <FliesLikeABrick> rixxon whatever rar utility is in apt can do split archives, I've done it many times
[02:27] <apokryphos> jrasith: at release time.
[02:27] <DShepherd> !dapper
[02:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[02:27] <rixxon> unrar-free is the only thing apt-get/synaptic finds, i'll try it
[02:28] <jrasith> ohh!, thanks ubotu
[02:28] <T-CAN> download of drake will be availible via bit torrent??
[02:28] <apokryphos> rixxon: are you on dapper?
[02:28] <rixxon> apokryphos: yes
[02:28] <T-CAN> there is a god!
[02:28] <apokryphos> rixxon: install "unrar"
[02:28] <_kadaj_3> hei hei
[02:28] <apokryphos> T-CAN: indeed, as all Ubuntu releases are :)
[02:28] <gnomefreak> T-CAN: yes it will ber
[02:28] <bruce89> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[02:28] <gnomefreak> -r
[02:28] <_kadaj_3> ubuntu will be release
[02:28] <rixxon> apokryphos: apt-get doesn't find 'unrar'
[02:28] <bruce89> multiverse?
[02:28] <cdubya> heh, think I'll wait till after the weekend perhaps to try dapper....maybe the flood gates will have subsided......besides, it'll give me time to make sure it's not breaking you all's stuff first...... :D
[02:28] <DShepherd> rixxon you need to have the multiverse repo enabled before you will see unrar in synaptic
[02:28] <apokryphos> rixxon: then you don't have multiverse enabled
[02:28] <FliesLikeABrick> yes T-CAN and the bittorrent release will be quite quick, many people seed releases on fast servers for it
[02:28] <fiendskull9> rixxon, apt-get install rar
[02:28] <eyequeue> !repos
[02:28] <DShepherd> !unrar
[02:28] <rixxon> DShepherd: i have, i think? :P
[02:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:28] <ubotu> DShepherd: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:28] <fiendskull9> it installs unrar too
[02:29] <slackern> unrar is in multiverse
[02:29] <rixxon> DShepherd: in synaptic, repositories settings, i checked all repositories
[02:29] <bruce89> tested2
[02:29] <bruce89> 921 people now
[02:29] <carthik> rixxon, can you paste the sources.list to the pastebin and post a link here?
[02:29] <crywolf_3> i installed windows media codec using the ristricted format and the file is in the file browser how do i now installit the file is called, w32codecs_20050412-0.4_i386.deb
[02:29] <hyperactivecrond> Seveas: Ping
[02:29] <Seveas> HEAR HEAR: #ubuntu is now the BIGGEST channel on freenode!!!
[02:29] <Seveas> HEAR HEAR: #ubuntu is now the BIGGEST channel on freenode!!!
[02:29] <bimberi> #ubuntu > #gentoo
[02:29] <DShepherd> rixxon: do what carthik siad
[02:29] <apokryphos> #ubuntu is officially
[02:29] <Dimitris> !easysource
[02:29] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:29] <moonman> how would i go about executing a .run?
[02:29] <apokryphos> heh
[02:29] <YoManWazap> lol people the pony is gone!!!
[02:29] <rixxon> hokay
[02:29] <bruce89> sudo dpkg -i *deb
[02:29] <rackerz> 924!!
[02:29] <Plouj> hah, stupid Xgl is gone, and I'm happy again
[02:29] <DShepherd> Seveas: yeah!
[02:29] <crimsun> zomg ponies
[02:29] <jrasith> w00t biggest channel
[02:29] <Seveas> WE HAVE OUR PONY!
[02:29] <Knorrie> !tell Seveas about repeat
[02:29] <gnomefreak> Seveas: they are like a bunch of wolves after a cat
[02:29] <matallo> when is ubuntu released????
[02:29] <Harold_P> no
[02:30] <Harold_P> after a dapper drake
[02:30] <Harold_P> ;)
[02:30] <FliesLikeABrick> matallo within 24h
[02:30] <slackern> moonman: "chmod +x filename.run" to make it executable, then "./filename.run" to run it.
[02:30] <matallo> i want it now
[02:30] <apokryphos> matallo: /topic
[02:30] <DShepherd> !ltell matallo about dapper
[02:30] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DShepherd
[02:30] <ubuntuspony> Knorrie: don't tell seveas what to do
[02:30] <crywolf_3> how do i install this file so i can watch  dvd, w32codecs_20050412-0.4_i386.deb
[02:30] <rixxon> where is sources.list now again :$
[02:30] <odie> hey, i have installed dvdshrink, but how i start it on gui?
[02:30] <Knorrie> ubuntuspony: heh
[02:30] <bruce89> you can always settle for springwatch for bird footage
[02:30] <FliesLikeABrick> crywolf_3 sudo dpkg -i <that filename>
[02:30] <Knorrie> *limburgs
[02:30] <DarkTower> dapper still recognises my wireless card and says it uses it but wont. Been like that since flight one
[02:30] <rixxon> found it
[02:30] <DShepherd> !tell matallo about dapper
[02:30] <Seveas> Knorrie, hah, if only that was true IRL
[02:30] <hyperactivecrond> Seveas: who maintains ubotu? ive found a problem with it
[02:31] <DShepherd> rixxon: you found multiverse?
[02:31] <matallo> thx
[02:31] <Seveas> hyperactivecrond, there are more problems with it, i'm working on a replacement
[02:31] <crywolf_3> what do i do with the file?
[02:31] <rixxon> DShepherd: hm?
[02:31] <FliesLikeABrick> crywolf_3  read what I said to you
[02:31] <rixxon> i found sources.list :P
[02:31] <hyperactivecrond> Seveas: can i /msg you?
[02:31] <DShepherd> rixxon: or unrar?
[02:31] <Seveas> sure
[02:31] <gnomefreak> Seveas: hes not ready to replace ubotu yet?
[02:31] <apokryphos> hyperactivecrond: cafuego does
[02:31] <sutur> i found our pony: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ohpatty/118097388/
[02:31] <matallo> i'm just like a star wars nerd sitting in front of the theatre
[02:31] <crywolf_3> i read it
[02:31] <apokryphos> Seveas: really? A blootbot?
[02:31] <crywolf_3>  but i'm a newbiie
[02:31] <Seveas> apokryphos, no
[02:31] <apokryphos> Seveas: perl is evil, indeed.
[02:31] <YoManWazap> why they tooked the pony out, where is?!!
[02:31] <Stormx2> Did I miss anything?
[02:31] <dmbt> arrr, so many messages so fast here
[02:31] <gnomefreak> yayyyy no more bloodbots ;)
[02:32] <arun> hi..  i am having problems with getting my speaker work in ubuntu.. can someone help me with this
[02:32] <rixxon> DShepherd, carthik: http://rafb.net/paste/results/hMokBS52.txt
[02:32] <apokryphos> blootbots aren't that bad :P
[02:32] <Seveas> sutur, LOL
[02:32] <moonman> i have a .run that i need to execute
[02:32] <malegria> is the stable version of dapper drake released? in the german ubuntu site they announced it but link refers to the release
[02:32] <moonman> any ideas on how to go about this?
[02:32] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell malegria about dapper
[02:32] <rackerz> I'ts not released
[02:32] <gnomefreak> malegria: type .topic
[02:32] <FliesLikeABrick> moonlite1 just chmod it +x and do ./filename
[02:32] <gnomefreak> opps /topic
[02:32] <malegria> sorry!
[02:32] <BadriNarayan> moonman: ./<filename>.run did not work?
[02:32] <hazart> Nice of sun to loosen their licence: apt-get install sun-java5-jdk totally nice :D
[02:32] <Belathor> crywolf_3: Have you tried EasyUbuntu?
[02:32] <InvisiblePinkUni> 925 users....
[02:32] <bruce89> http://www.wwt.org.uk/Supergoose/Maps.asp may satifiey some curiosity for flying drakes
[02:32] <rackerz> go to /topic
[02:33] <fortgate> "sh somfile.run"
[02:33] <InvisiblePinkUni> whats the record?
[02:33] <dmbt> oh yeh, and btw, whoever said it was released on bittorrent it wrong
[02:33] <Stormx2> What does LTS mean?
[02:33] <dmbt> it isn't
[02:33] <crywolf_3> no
[02:33] <DShepherd> rixxon: you dont have multiverse set up properly yet
[02:33] <BadriNarayan> moonman: try chmod+x<filename>.run?
[02:33] <apokryphos> InvisiblePinkUni: this
[02:33] <givre> .topic
[02:33] <Stormx2> !lts
[02:33] <FliesLikeABrick> dmbt nobody said it was on bittorrent yet
[02:33] <ubotu> methinks lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[02:33] <moonman> BadriNarayan, that was the command i needed
[02:33] <moonman> thanks
[02:33] <rackerz> !lts
[02:33] <crywolf_3> how do i go there
[02:33] <odie> how do i run dvdshrink on gui?
[02:33] <T-CAN> no released on bit torrent?
[02:33] <rixxon> DShepherd: ok, i just checked all repositories in synaptics repositories settings...
[02:33] <nosklo> can I download final release dapper already??
[02:33] <FliesLikeABrick> T-CAN not yet
[02:33] <matallo> yes
[02:33] <gnomefreak> Long Term Support
[02:33] <hazart> nosklo: nope
[02:33] <Seveas> nosklo, no
[02:33] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell nosklo  about dapper
[02:33] <MTecknology> can somebody give me some freakin help!! http://pastebin.com/750297
[02:33] <rixxon> !tell rixxon about multiverse
[02:33] <kspath_> !tell nosklo about dapper
[02:33] <matallo> not the final
[02:33] <hazart> !tell hazart about dapper
[02:34] <hazart> Nice :D
[02:34] <nosklo> ok i will wait
[02:34] <matallo> but you'll update & upgrade later and it's the same
[02:34] <eigenlambda> MTecknology: remember, java is non-free
[02:34] <DShepherd> !sourcelist
[02:34] <FliesLikeABrick> wait 24 hours and look at ubuntu.com for the release info
[02:34] <ubotu> DShepherd: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:34] <MTecknology> point being??
[02:34] <odie> how do i run dvdshrink on gui? on dapper? i lied idon have dapper but can you reply ?
[02:34] <FliesLikeABrick> !repos
[02:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:34] <bruce89> 928 people
[02:34] <hyperactivecrond> !tell FliesLikeABrick about msgthebot
[02:34] <FliesLikeABrick> bruce89 we can see, we don't need you telling us
[02:34] <BadriNarayan> !repos
[02:34] <carthik> rixxon, multiverse is enabled only for the backports, you see, so add "multiverse" after "universe" wherever there is universe in that file
[02:34] <bruce89> alright, ill shut it
[02:34] <FliesLikeABrick> hyperactivecrond I only did it because DShepherd had the wrong one.  Tell him not me
[02:35] <rixxon> carthik: ah, ok, thanks
[02:35] <eugman> +p What the command to recofigure xorg?
[02:35] <hyperactivecrond> ah ok
[02:35] <DShepherd> rixxon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14938 <-- i think you can replace your sourcelist with this.. should be safe.. make a back up first though
[02:35] <DarkTower> they should hold the release until we get 1000 people in here lol
[02:35] <hyperactivecrond> !tell DShepherd about msgthebot
[02:35] <FliesLikeABrick> eugman dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg
[02:35] <eigenlambda> MTecknology: that said, it looks like it crashed in libfontmanager.so?
[02:35] <FliesLikeABrick> eugman dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:35] <bruce89> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:35] <hyperactivecrond> !tell BadriNarayan about msgthebot
[02:35] <matallo> Lol DarkTower
[02:35] <DShepherd> hyperactivecrond: thanks
[02:35] <YoManWazap> LOL people the pony is traveling...fron the forums he went to main Ubuntu page
[02:35] <Plouj> how do I enable alt/ctrl+drag resizing/moving of windows in GNOME?
[02:35] <MTecknology> eigenlambda, that means?
[02:35] <hyperactivecrond> np DShepherd
[02:35] <moonman> BadriNarayan, no dice
[02:35] <Newbify2> heh
[02:35] <eigenlambda> no idea
[02:35] <eigenlambda> ::shrug:: dunno much about java
[02:35] <DShepherd> hyperactivecrond:  :-P
[02:36] <odie> first, fuck a pig
[02:36] <eigenlambda> give your crash report to Sun?
[02:36] <r4zz> Bad news, I just got off the horn with Shuttleworth, apparently there's going to be another delay.
[02:36] <eigenlambda> java is non-free
[02:36] <crimsun> odie: um...
[02:36] <gnomefreak> odie: watch your langauage
[02:36] <eigenlambda> um, multiverse
[02:36] <odie> ok
[02:36] <gnomefreak> - one of those a's
[02:36] <nekostar> hm
[02:36] <eigenlambda> multiverse?  is java in multiverse or restricted?
[02:36] <bruce89> where's the pony?
[02:36] <jrasith> how long of a delay?
[02:36] <hyperactivecrond> bruce89: dead.
[02:36] <odie> can i say scrub?
[02:36] <sutur> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ohpatty/118097388/
[02:36] <DShepherd> r4zz: we believe you not!
[02:36] <nekostar> how hard is it to make a lil proggie to gui something?
[02:36] <bruce89> oh well
[02:36] <FliesLikeABrick> odie stop spamming
[02:36] <hyperactivecrond> the people asking about when it's released killed it.
[02:36] <FliesLikeABrick> Seveas can you do something about odie?
[02:36] <odie> ok ill stop now
[02:36] <eigenlambda> you can tell, i'm from debian
[02:37] <gnomefreak> i can
[02:37] <eigenlambda> from how unhelpful i am
[02:37] <gnomefreak> no need yet
[02:37] <nekostar> i wanna make a gksu mount thing to automattically mount isos to my cdrom/dvdrom drive folders
[02:37] <matallo> they've rdesigned the site I think
[02:37] <FliesLikeABrick> eigenlambda java is in multiverse
[02:37] <bruce89> really
[02:37] <eigenlambda> and saying non-free
[02:37] <eigenlambda> hehe
[02:37] <r4zz> :P
[02:37] <YoManWazap> now is at www.ubuntu.com..just arrived fron the forums
[02:37] <bruce89> oh
[02:37] <odie> im just newbee in search for help
[02:37] <hyperactivecrond> bruce89: not really.
[02:37] <nekostar> and would just like a popup box to select the iso so i can browse for it
[02:37] <hyperactivecrond> odie: then don't troll/spam
[02:37] <hyperactivecrond> i speak from experience
[02:37] <hastesaver> odie, then stick to the topic.
[02:37] <matallo> hodie: help is not here look up in lost+found
[02:37] <odie> dapper
[02:37] <bruce89> but what is the problem anyway
[02:37] <odie> i tried to install but it stock in 3 stap
[02:38] <odie> step
[02:38] <crywolf_3> what must i do to get some help around here?
[02:38] <Davey_> Hey
[02:38] <Flannel> crywolf_3: ask a question
[02:38] <FliesLikeABrick> crywolf_3 just ask your question and read what people answer.  I've answered your question 3 times
[02:38] <DShepherd> crywolf_3: ask your question
[02:38] <gnomefreak> crywolf_3: start by stating your problem?
[02:38] <FliesLikeABrick> crywolf_3  if my answer wasn't good enough, ask a different question that is better
[02:38] <bruce89> sheesjh
[02:38] <odie> thats easy, when people anwser
[02:38] <odie> :D
[02:38] <FliesLikeABrick> odie stop trolling
[02:38] <Davey|MbP> anybody know if rsync uses something *like* diff to make updates to existing files? I want to know if it'll re-transer my mailboxes, or just diff and add the new stuff
[02:38] <crywolf_3> i said i am new to ubuntu
[02:38] <gnomefreak> odie: saying stuck on step 3 doesnt help much
[02:38] <bruce89> people are a bit overexcited about the Dapper thing
[02:39] <[zero] > ubuntu.com has changed
[02:39] <gnomefreak> FliesLikeABrick: hes ok
[02:39] <odie> trolling? whats trolling?
[02:39] <FliesLikeABrick> yes it does Davey|MbP, it uses a "rolling-hash" algorithm
[02:39] <odie> ok, bye
[02:39] <bruce89> what you do
[02:39] <matallo> yes [zero] 
[02:39] <Kr0ntab> trolling = being retarded
[02:39] <apokryphos> [zero] : yup, new feel for dapper.
[02:39] <caldo> IT'S UP! IT'S UP! IT'S UP!
[02:39] <caldo> IT'S UP! IT'S UP! IT'S UP!
[02:39] <caldo> IT'S UP! IT'S UP! IT'S UP!
[02:39] <odie> maybe other day...
[02:39] <caldo> ...
[02:39] <FliesLikeABrick> caldo don't spam
[02:39] <bruce89> is it
[02:39] <hyperactivecrond> !ponie
[02:39] <ubotu> I guess ponie is whinny, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/files/no-pony-for-you.jpg
[02:39] <Davey|MbP> FliesLikeABrick: OK :)
[02:39] <caldo> gwahaha
[02:39] <caldo> sorry
[02:39] <caldo> couldn't help myself
[02:39] <YoManWazap> my god!!...the pony moves again....hes no more on www.ubuntu.com
[02:39] <matallo> you fucking bastard caldo
[02:39] <arun> how do i setup sound in ubunu?
[02:39] <hyperactivecrond> for all of you with a ponie fetish
[02:39] <crywolf_3>  and i followed all the steps to install realplayer but i dont see where it was installed, its in a file browser
[02:39] <caldo> gwahahaha
[02:39] <apokryphos> matallo: language please
[02:39] <gumpish> caldo: then someone else can help yourself for you =p
[02:39] <odie> hyperactiverond: don be a dark ruler!!!
[02:40] <crywolf_3>   how do i install it
[02:40] <[zero] > only problem is... my pc broke HAHAHA
[02:40] <gnomefreak> caldo: no worries i can help you for you now stop spamming
[02:40] <MTecknology> I want help, i wanna play games
[02:40] <hyperactivecrond> !tell matallo about COC
[02:40] <apokryphos> crywolf_3: ubuntu?
[02:40] <[zero] > so i wont be using it :(
[02:40] <crywolf_3> yeah
[02:40] <bruce89> also going whhahhwha once certainly doesn't call for swearing
[02:40] <DShepherd> caldo: up where?
[02:40] <matallo> sorry apokryphos i'm so excited
[02:40] <caldo> not, just a little joke
[02:40] <crywolf_3>  i download it 3 days ago
[02:40] <caldo> heh
[02:40] <Limen> were can I download the release when it arrives?
[02:40] <andrejkw> I am so impatient for Dapper.
[02:40] <ekelund> I will leave this channel to much join and part for me this client sounds all the time
[02:40] <matallo> i can't control
[02:40] <MTecknology> !COC
[02:40] <ubotu> [coc]  the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:40] <hastesaver> arun, it should be setup by itself, if you're having problems, look at the link given by "/msg ubotu sound"
[02:40] <Hitchhiker> http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[02:40] <FliesLikeABrick> Limen look at the ubuntu website after it is released and click on download, just like you normally would
[02:40] <rixxon> carthik: i did 'sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list', :%s/universe$/universe multiverse/g, and :wq
[02:40] <Limen> thx
[02:40] <rixxon> carthik: E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[02:41] <gnomefreak> rixxon: enable multiverse
[02:41] <rixxon> gnomefreak: read the message before :P
[02:41] <gnomefreak> rixxon: no the ones with the word backport in them
[02:41] <blurtblurt> Is there a page describing the -server kernels?
[02:41] <medgno> rixxon, did you do a sudo apt-get update?
[02:41] <sutur> in austria its 02:41 how much longer shall i wait?
[02:41] <crywolf_3> i did everything to install the wm codec to playback dvd
[02:42] <matallo> imagine they who have to ftp the files to the servers
[02:42] <megabyte405> rixxon: there is no package named unrar.  Pick either unrar-free or unrar-nonfree
[02:42] <crywolf_3>  dut still not working
[02:42] <gnomefreak> blurtblurt: server kernels are same as non server kernels
[02:42] <matallo> they must feel like GOD
[02:42] <megabyte405> rixxon: search synaptic for info
[02:42] <DShepherd> rixxon: did you check my sourcelist at pastebin? your sourcelist should look like that
[02:42] <rixxon> medgno: thank you, forgot that *doh*
[02:42] <megabyte405> rixxon: search for "rar"
[02:42] <DShepherd> rixxon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14938 <-- here it is again
[02:42] <FliesLikeABrick> matallo the channel is busy enough right now, please stick to the topic
[02:42] <Jeeves_> gnomefreak: In dapper they aren't. AFAIS
[02:42] <carthik> rixxon, after you change sources.list it is neccessary to do an $sudo apt-get update
[02:42] <crimsun> gnomefreak: (not precisely. different elevator algorithm, preempt is disabled, memory support is larger, etc.)
[02:42] <caldo> where would the torrent normally be?
[02:42] <medgno> blurtblurt, except that server kernels are tuned better for servers and don't have the non-free drivers
[02:42] <T-CAN> in fstab, what should i set umask to to give me read/write/execute permissions on a partion ??
[02:42] <caldo> on /download ?
[02:42] <Flannel> Jeeves_: I believe they are.
[02:42] <rixxon> carthik: yea i did, and it works now. thank you!
[02:42] <YoManWazap> from the ubuntu forums: they decided to open the dapper drake section a little early
[02:42] <FliesLikeABrick> T-CAN a normal ext3 filesystem on that partition?
[02:42] <rackerz> does anyone think Dapper will be out in 30 mins? If not I'm going to go to bed.
[02:42] <blurtblurt> medgno: I just want a list of differences, including a summary of how they are tuned
[02:42] <T-CAN> vfat
[02:42] <carthik> rixxon, my pleasure
[02:42] <FliesLikeABrick> rackerz go to bed
[02:42] <bruce89> edgy dont you mean
[02:43] <hyperactivecrond> that was for you Rackerz
[02:43] <Jeeves_> Flannel: I read somewhere that Dapper has seperate server kernels
[02:43] <caldo> YoManWazap i already did that joke heh
[02:43] <DShepherd> T-CAN: 0222
[02:43] <rackerz> lol :D
[02:43] <nbx909> rackerz expect it in 8 hours
[02:43] <T-CAN> alright, thanks
[02:43] <Godfather> rackerz, hahaha me too
[02:43] <rackerz> i'll get up in 8 hours
[02:43] <BadriNarayan> or 12 hours, whichever is later
[02:43] <bruce89> or 8-16
[02:43] <DShepherd> T-CAN: its is ntfs? or vfat?
[02:43] <caldo> i'm already up
[02:43] <nbx909> yeah 8-16
[02:43] <tommy> does someone know if the multimedia streams in broswers are correctly played by default in dapper ?
[02:43] <T-CAN> vfat
[02:43] <caldo> it IS exciting
[02:43] <FliesLikeABrick> DShepherd he said vfat
[02:43] <bruce89> it's anyones gues
[02:43] <DShepherd> FliesLikeABrick: ok
[02:43] <rackerz> Right see you guys in 8 hours!
[02:43] <tommy> I had a lot of problems in breezy
[02:43] <T-CAN> yep
[02:43] <gnomefreak> ah ok ty crimsun
[02:43] <cdubya> any php/mysql folks in here.....I know it's a bit off-topic, but I can't get anyone to even answer me on #php......and I've tried #mysql before as well with little luck.....
[02:43] <Flannel> tommy: they won't be played by default, since you have to install the codecs, etc.
[02:44] <Flannel> cdubya: #ubuntu-offtopic for it ;)
[02:44] <FliesLikeABrick> cdubya you do not want to ask here, especially because it is this busy right now.
[02:44] <matallo> how will the command be to install lamp?
[02:44] <hyperactivecrond> don't let the doorknob hit ya where the good lord split ya...
[02:44] <Jeeves_> cdubya: Kinda busy here for non-topic questions
[02:44] <matallo> sudo aptitude install lamp?
[02:44] <Flannel> !tell matallo about lamp
[02:44] <Dimitris> Any particular torrent site that will host dapper?
[02:44] <caldo> i think its an option when you stuff the cd in
[02:44] <bruce89> lots
[02:44] <caldo> at least that was the screenshot i saw
[02:44] <tommy> Flannel, I have installed the codecs in breezy but even with this I still had a lot of problems
[02:44] <muszek> Dimitris: thepiratebay.org :)
[02:44] <apokryphos> sutur: /topic
[02:44] <Chobo-Mog> lol
[02:44] <caldo> lo
[02:44] <fortgate> !tell fortgate about lamp
[02:44] <jrasith> lol
[02:44] <hyperactivecrond> Dimitris: microsoft.com
[02:45] <cdubya> thanks, all.
[02:45] <caldo> i'll host it off my 200mhz p1
[02:45] <Jeeves_> Dimitris: I will. :)
[02:45] <FliesLikeABrick> Dimitris I will be hosting a seed for the torrent on 4 of my 100mbit servers across the USA
[02:45] <Dimitris> hyperactivecrond :-D Nice!!!
[02:45] <hyperactivecrond> Dimitris: heh
[02:45] <hyperactivecrond> me++
[02:45] <hyperactivecrond> Dimitris, can i /msg you
[02:45] <hou5ton> I have changed the repositories to dapper and upgraded ... and now gnome won't come up and the sound doesn't work .... any suggestions?
[02:45] <Dimitris> sure
[02:45] <matallo> torrent will be faster than ftp or http won't it?
[02:45] <FliesLikeABrick> hou5ton #ubuntu+1 for dapper help
[02:46] <bruce89> probalbyt
[02:46] <medgno> hou5ton, did you 'upgrade' or 'dist-upgrade'?
[02:46] <jrasith> I would assume so
[02:46] <apokryphos> matallo: definitely, yes.
[02:46] <FliesLikeABrick> yes matallo  it will be a lot faster
[02:46] <matallo> thx
[02:46] <caldo> i just hope there won't be vmware problems, i need that thing to work
[02:46] <[zero] > is this new version out yet?
[02:46] <hou5ton> medgno:  don't really know
[02:46] <FliesLikeABrick> caldo vmware works fine on dapper
[02:46] <bruce89> no
[02:46] <FliesLikeABrick> [zero]  /topic
[02:46] <apokryphos> [zero] : /topic
[02:46] <medgno> hou5ton, or if you used synaptic, did you select the 'smart upgrade'?
[02:46] <[zero] > oh yeh hehe
[02:46] <[zero] > sozz
[02:46] <crimsun> caldo: it's included in multiverse.
[02:46] <caldo> oh really
[02:46] <muszek> matallo: I got breezy with full speed (2mbps) right after it came out... it got slower at the very end, though.
[02:46] <Jack_Smirnoff> Hello all.  I would like to know the proper way to make a hardware change (Video card) after Ubuntu is installed
[02:46] <caldo> thats awesome
[02:46] <caldo> save me alot of trouble
[02:46] <bruce89> wow, a lot of stroppy people here
[02:46] <Hitchhiker> How about dapper and Xen?
[02:46] <muszek> matallo: I was getting it via http
[02:47] <grimboy> I want a pony!
[02:47] <hou5ton> medgno:  well ... I just changed all the repo's where it said "breezy" to "dapper" ... was that a bad thing?
[02:47] <caldo> how about dapper and IIS?
[02:47] <caldo> ;-)
[02:47] <hyperactivecrond> !tell grimboy about ponie
[02:47] <bruce89> yes
[02:47] <crimsun> !info vmware-player dapper
[02:47] <crimsun> bah, it hasn't been updated yet
[02:47] <caldo> !info vmware-server dapper
[02:47] <medgno> hou5ton, that's how you're supposed to do it. But what did you do after changing the repos?
[02:47] <bruce89> no its not
[02:47] <caldo> doh!
[02:47] <r4zz> FliesLikeABrick, when do you expect to be starting the torrent?
[02:47] <FliesLikeABrick> r4zz as soon as it is released
[02:47] <[zero] > I got a question, If i duel boot ubuntu on this pc and have a seperate harddrive for music and that will i be able to read and write to the seperate harddrive from both ubuntu and xp??
[02:47] <matallo> afaik the more people the faster -->btorrent the more people the slower --> http
[02:47] <bruce89> gksu "update-manager -d"
[02:47] <FliesLikeABrick> r4zz I will be leaving my 100mbit seeds online for the next week or two
[02:47] <hou5ton> medgno:  well .. I don't recall doing a "smart" upgrade
[02:48] <Flannel> bruce89: gksudo not gksu
[02:48] <bruce89> if it's Fat, yes
[02:48] <DShepherd> [zero] : if it vfat.. yes
[02:48] <Jack_Smirnoff> only if is running fat32 partition
[02:48] <nosklo> can I downoad dapper? please please please please please
[02:48] <grimboy> Is this some kind of discrimination against anyone not in america?
[02:48] <bruce89> is it gksudo
[02:48] <FliesLikeABrick> nosklo  /topic
[02:48] <medgno> hou5ton, maybe try running the command 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' in a terminal and see what it says
[02:48] <rixxon> what do i need to play xvid in totem?
[02:48] <r4zz> FliesLikeABrick, will you be getting it at the same time as the mirrors or will you have to get it off one of them?
[02:48] <caldo> damn, the torrent is only going to be dvd?
[02:48] <FliesLikeABrick> r4zz I will be getting it from the torrent initially
[02:48] <caldo> i knew i should have bought that burner
[02:48] <[zero] > ok thankx everyone that answered it shall be done :D
[02:48] <FliesLikeABrick> no caldo the torrent will be all of the release images
[02:49] <caldo> sweet
[02:49] <grimboy> It is. First random wars, now small delays.
[02:49] <bruce89> but the topic is Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise) | Release Parties! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseParties
[02:49] <hou5ton> medgno:  that's what I did before ... and I just did it again and it indicates I'm good
[02:49] <r4zz> FliesLikeABrick,  oh I get it now, I thought you were in charge of the official torrent :P
[02:49] <Dimitris> News: Pirate Bay torrent site down after Swedish National Criminal Police search warrant
[02:49] <crywolf_3> not getting any where
[02:49] <bruce89> we now
[02:49] <bruce89> know
[02:49] <FliesLikeABrick> no r4zz I just put up a bunch of fast mirrors on servers I own to help speed the torrent up a lot
[02:49] <bruce89> or i know
[02:49] <matallo> lol Dimitris
[02:49] <medgno> hou5ton, okay, then I'm not sure. You did everything right as far as I know.
[02:49] <FliesLikeABrick> Dimitris  bruce89  pasting please
[02:50] <r4zz> that's pretty cool :)
[02:50] <FliesLikeABrick> stop pasting*
[02:50] <medgno> if you haven't rebooted, you could try that
[02:50] <bruce89> am i
[02:50] <hyperactivecrond> !ponie
[02:50] <ubotu> ponie is, like, totally, whinny, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/files/no-pony-for-you.jpg
[02:50] <bruce89> am i?
[02:50] <bruce89> oops
[02:50] <FliesLikeABrick> bruce89 we know what the topic says, we don't need you to paste it for us ;)
[02:50] <rpedro> !joystick
[02:50] <ubotu> have a look at all these packages "joystick" - Testing and calibration tools "jscalibrator" - GTK Joystick Calibrator "jslaunch" - Joystick button shell command execution/shutdown tool
[02:51] <bruce89> but then when people say stuff about dapper you tell them to keep on topic, but the topic is dapper
[02:51] <Flannel> bruce89: only by resignation.
[02:51] <JohnP789> "time sudo hdparm /dev/hdc" takes over a minute to complete.  I don't see anything in the logs to suggest what's wrong.  Any ideas?
[02:51] <FliesLikeABrick> bruce89 when people ask "when will dapper be out?!?" we point them to the topic rather than telling them over and over
[02:52] <JohnP789> /dev/hdc is an NEC DVD burner.
[02:52] <bruce89> i see
[02:52] <matallo> there's no rss for teh fridge?
[02:52] <bruce89> it is very annoying i supose
[02:52] <bruce89> yes there is
[02:52] <matallo> oh ye
[02:52] <matallo> sorry
[02:52] <JohnP789> It's instantaneous with no media in the drive.
[02:53] <FliesLikeABrick> JohnP789 then it is likely reading data from the drive
[02:53] <xumbi> anyone know what server(s) will have dapper first?
[02:53] <gnomefreak> xumbi: no but you will be informed
[02:54] <nosklo> xumbi, people are suggesting microsoft.com
[02:54] <gnomefreak> if im still up ;)
[02:54] <jrasith> lol, microsoft.com
[02:54] <AngryElf> how can i get the version of a package installed using apt-get?
[02:54] <tommy> i d like to know if there will be a version that fits on a cd, or is it gonna be available only on dvd ?
[02:54] <medgno> there will be cd images
[02:54] <fortgate> AngryElf, apt-cache policy <packagename>
[02:54] <troy_s> angry:  have you tried apt-cache?
[02:54] <grimboy> man
[02:54] <AngryElf> or ,whatever program......just not synaptic
[02:54] <Flannel> AngryElf: apt-cache show [package]  or showpkg
[02:54] <gnomefreak> AngryElf: what package?
[02:54] <FliesLikeABrick> xumbi your best bet (if you're looking for a CD image) is to get it from the torrents
[02:54] <ggilbert> tommy, it will fit on a cd
[02:54] <xumbi> nolsko: awesome, I'll watch that ;)
[02:55] <ablyss> i need to report a bug.. tail -c in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper doesn't work
[02:55] <tommy> ggilbert, thanks
[02:55] <Ophiocus> AngryElf: in synaptic search in your installed tab for a description
[02:55] <bruce89> tired, bye
[02:55] <FliesLikeABrick> ablyss  if you need help with dapper between now and tomorrow, go to #ubuntu+1
[02:55] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ablyss about bug
[02:55] <hou5ton> I've downloaded the Dapper RC and burned the ISO, twice ... but it won't install
[02:55] <Hitchhiker> How well does Ubuntu upgrade between versions?  With SuSE, it's been hit or miss, and mostly miss...
[02:55] <ablyss> thanks
[02:55] <FliesLikeABrick> Hitchhiker flawlessly
[02:55] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[02:55] <ubotu> upgrade is probably Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[02:55] <FliesLikeABrick> Hitchhiker it is somethign tested very carefully
[02:55] <ggilbert> Hitchhiker: It does a dandy job upgrading
[02:55] <FliesLikeABrick> something*
[02:55] <xumbi> anyone know what the title will be?  e.g. ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso  I'm trying to write a script to download it as soon as it's released :)
[02:55] <AngryElf> i could imagine that more than one version gets cached, with that in mind, apt-cache will show the version of the package that's installed, yes?
[02:56] <FliesLikeABrick> hou5ton you may want to wait and re-download the actual stable release tomorrow
[02:56] <Hitchhiker> Sweet
[02:56] <BadriNarayan> Can I ask a question about NetworkManager in ubuntu here?
[02:56] <Flannel> Hitchhiker: it upgrades fine, there are some leftover packages you sometimes have to remove afterwards, but they're not anything that's going to explode.
[02:56] <gnomefreak> xumbi: 5.10 was released in oct 2005
[02:56] <FliesLikeABrick> gnomefreak he was using that as an example
[02:56] <FliesLikeABrick> xumbi just check it by hand, scripts will just load the servers un-necessarily
[02:56] <hou5ton> FliesLikeABrick::  ya .. at this point ... good idea
[02:56] <xumbi> gnomefreak: yes I know, I was just using that as an example
[02:56] <thenetduck> hey i thought they said 0:00 GMT for Dapper release is that correct?
[02:56] <FliesLikeABrick> thenetduck read the topic /topic
[02:56] <fortgate> AngryElf, apt-cache policy <pkg>       will show you the currently installed version, and the available versions
[02:56] <Kyral> look at the topic...
[02:56] <Bilford> it's 00:56
[02:56] <xumbi> FliesLikeABrick: good point
[02:56] <guano> xumbi i think it would look something like dapper-dvd-i386.iso
[02:56] <Hitchhiker> Flannel: Sweet... SuSE has often caused things like network to stop working at boot when doing upgrades...
[02:57] <gnomefreak> xumbi: ubuntu-6.06-alternative-1386.iso  afaik
[02:57] <AngryElf> fortgate, thanx
[02:57] <FliesLikeABrick> I highly reccomend downloading the images via torrent rather than loading the webservers once dapper is released
[02:57] <FliesLikeABrick> it will be much faster
[02:57] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: no it was not correct
[02:57] <fortgate> OMG irc channels come with topics now?  :)
[02:57] <thenetduck> gosh darn it
[02:57] <_chuck> anyone here ever tryed to intstall these drivers:   Intel Graphics driver for Linux* (includes AGP GART and DRM kernel modules)
[02:57] <_chuck> http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=865&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng&strOSs=39&submit=Go%21
[02:58] <Bilford> Im using Dapper RC.  is the final version going to be any different compared to me simply downloading the latest daily update?
[02:58] <FliesLikeABrick> no Bilange
[02:58] <Flannel> Bilford: nope.
[02:58] <FliesLikeABrick> Bilford no
[02:58] <Bilford> ty
[02:58] <gnomefreak> Bilford: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:58] <Bilford> ok
[02:58] <ggilbert> Barring any last minute packages, which would just be happily upgraded anyways :)
[02:58] <caldo> apt-get install cluehammer
[02:58] <gnomefreak> ggilbert: no last min packages the last one was uploaded this am
[02:59] <pepinito> hi
[02:59] <gnomefreak> 12 or so hours ago
[02:59] <eugman> I just upgraded to dapper but got no response to my question in ubuntu+1. Do I need gdk-imlib1?
[02:59] <Kr0ntab> this channel is gonna get a little larger soon, eh?
[02:59] <FliesLikeABrick> eugman for what?
[02:59] <Dimitris> Any step by step guide for installing ati drivers for ati mobility radeon x300?
[02:59] <FliesLikeABrick> Kr0ntab it has been growing fast over the past couple hours
[02:59] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell Dimitris about ati
[02:59] <pepinito> could you please help me to put a trash can on my desktop
[02:59] <Bugs> question - How do I make a shortcut (link) on the desktop ?
[02:59] <Kr0ntab> FliesLikeABrick, yeah.
[02:59] <Sgeo> What time is the release?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> Kr0ntab: maybe not sure how many we will lose once the release is out
[02:59] <FliesLikeABrick> Sgeo /topic
[02:59] <FliesLikeABrick> Bugs right click on the desktop and create a new shortcut
[02:59] <ggilbert> Dimitris: In my experience, step one is get a very large glass of beer. :)
[03:00] <hou5ton> #join ubuntu+1
[03:00] <Kr0ntab> hey gnomefreak ... how ya been?
[03:00] <Sgeo> Can you give an upper bound on the time
[03:00] <Sgeo> And I don't mean 23:59
[03:00] <FliesLikeABrick> Sgeo 23.5 hours from now
[03:00] <gnomefreak> Kr0ntab: ok
[03:00] <jrasith> lol
[03:00] <BadriNarayan> How do I make NetworkManager coexist with ubuntu's network-admin scripts? It used to show Wireless Networks. Now it show only wired. Can somebody point to a good site for debugging this?
[03:00] <gnomefreak> FliesLikeABrick: you cant create a shortcut
[03:00] <FliesLikeABrick> Sgeo the topic says that.
[03:00] <Bugs> FliesLikeABrick: that isn't an option in the context menu....
[03:00] <lufis> Hi. Can someone help me play MP3 files in amaroK?
[03:00] <eugman> I dunno. It apprently thinks it maybe should be upgraded. When I do try that it wants to remove a different lib. I want to know if I really need this package.
[03:00] <gnomefreak> Bugs: create launcher
[03:00] <Okita> Can anyone tell me why my Dapper might be listening on TCP port 1720?
[03:00] <FliesLikeABrick> gnomefreak you can create an application launcher or something to that effect... can't you?  I'm sure I've done it before
[03:00] <DShepherd> lufis: install the xine package for amarok
[03:00] <Bilford> lufis, Dapper or Breezy
[03:00] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah I mean create launcher gnomefreak  sorry
[03:00] <gnomefreak> FliesLikeABrick: not shortcut
[03:00] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:00] <cluehammer> Okita sudo netstat -pan | grep 1720
[03:00] <lufis> Bilford: dapper
[03:00] <pepinito> hi, can some explain to me how can i put a trash can on my desktop?
[03:01] <Bilford> lufis, then what DShepherd said
[03:01] <Bilford> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:01] <Bugs> FliesLikeABrick:  I need a shortcut / link to a folder, not an app
[03:01] <cluehammer> ugh still with the gstreamer
[03:01] <YCIRC> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[03:01] <AngryElf> guys, i'm having an issue with xine......."xine dvd:/" and "xine /dev/hdc" or dvd don't work......."mplayer /dev/dvd" doesn't work but "mplayer /dev/hdc" does work........../dev/dvd -> /dev/hdc.....xine says "no input plugin available to handle dvd:/....any ideas?
[03:01] <thomag> \topic
[03:01] <medgno> pepinito, go into gconf-editor, and then /apps/nautilus/desktop  and set trash_icon_visible to true
[03:01] <cluehammer> pleeeeease tell me they at least ripped out esd?
[03:01] <lufis> DShepherd: I have the xine package, don't i? Otherwise, nothing would play. I can play Vorbis files but no go for mp3, and I have the gstreamer-ugly package installed
[03:01] <rixxon> how to play xvid in totem?
[03:01] <FliesLikeABrick> YCIRC do ./configure first
[03:01] <YCIRC> yes
[03:01] <Bilford> lufis, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:01] <cluehammer> !info esd
[03:01] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell YCIRC about source
[03:02] <pepinito> ok
[03:02] <fortgate> bugs:  "cd ~/Desktop ; ln -s ~/SomeDirectory"    as a guess :)
[03:02] <Bugs> pepinito: I am trying to do something similar too... let me know if someone answers you, k ?
[03:02] <pepinito> thanks
[03:02] <DShepherd> cluehammer: not to my knowledge
[03:02] <lufis> Bilford: great, thanks
[03:02] <medgno> Bugs, I did
[03:02] <cluehammer> nooooooooo!
[03:02] <Bilford> gstreamer is for Breezy
[03:02] <cluehammer> why must they torment me so!
[03:02] <kbrooks> Hmmm :-)
[03:02] <lufis> Bilford: you mean, Dapper doesn't use gstreamer?
[03:02] <DShepherd> cluehammer: you and me alike
[03:02] <cluehammer> when lord! when's it gonna be esd's time!
[03:02] <Efnian_> Is someone using XChat?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> lufis: yes it does
[03:02] <ggilbert> cluehammer: hopefully soon :)
[03:02] <kbrooks> hey.
[03:02] <llorT> Guten tag.
[03:02] <moonman> Efnian, i am
[03:02] <FliesLikeABrick> Efnian I'd imagine a lot of people are
[03:02] <kbrooks> Efnian: i am
[03:02] <cluehammer> so terrible
[03:02] <grimboy> Yes
[03:02] <Okita> cluehammer: Nothing
[03:02] <cluehammer> so very very terrible
[03:02] <bsdfox> gstreamer rocks
[03:03] <Bilford> lufis, to play mp3 in Breezy, you need gstream, for Dapper you need libxine
[03:03] <Sgeo> Is there a reason for withholding the release time?
[03:03] <BadriNarayan> Does anybody use network-manager? Does it work all the time?
[03:03] <lufis> Bilford, oh... okay
[03:03] <FliesLikeABrick> Sgeo this is normal
[03:03] <kbrooks> Efnian: apt-get remove xchat-gnome && apt-get install xchat
[03:03] <bsdfox> BadriNarayan I've seen bugs
[03:03] <jrasith> why the switch to zine?
[03:03] <moonman> i need a hand with a .run file
[03:03] <Sgeo> Is there a reason for it in general?
[03:03] <kbrooks> xchat-gnome: gone!
[03:03] <jrasith> *xine
[03:03] <bsdfox> device names showing up weird
[03:03] <Healot> yay! they remove gstreamer for totem
[03:03] <ggilbert> Sgeo: It probably boils down to they don't know when it'll be read to go.
[03:03] <BadriNarayan> bsdfox: thanks
[03:03] <gnomefreak> Sgeo: ther eis no time
[03:03] <kbrooks> xchat: IN!
[03:03] <Efnian_> moonman, do the highlighted messages attributed to you behave correctly?
[03:03] <cluehammer> oh yeah and is there a reason the dcc configuration options are gone from xchat?
[03:03] <leboff> is there a problem with running kde and gnome at the same time?
[03:03] <exhale> whats the difference between xchat-gnome and xchat?
[03:03] <cluehammer> just wondering, that's been bugging the hell outta me
[03:03] <gnomefreak> Sgeo: cant tell how long its gonna be to upload it and make sure everything works
[03:03] <DShepherd> exhale: ones newer
[03:03] <BadriNarayan> exhale: no
[03:03] <moonman> Efnian_, what do you mean, like when you tab my nick in?
[03:03] <grimboy> BadriNarayan: It broke my network
[03:04] <Efnian_> moonman, yes
[03:04] <ggilbert> exhale: Xchat-gnome has a bit of a nicer ui, but it doesn't have every feature of xchat
[03:04] <kbrooks> exhale: no "difference"
[03:04] <moonman> yes
[03:04] <BadriNarayan> grimboy: at least I am not alone
[03:04] <cluehammer> i broke the interweb :-(
[03:04] <moonman> Efnian_, yes
[03:04] <Bilford> this channel is scrolling too fast
[03:04] <exhale> ggilbert is xchat-gnome default in dapper?
[03:04] <FliesLikeABrick> yes xch
[03:04] <eggzeck> xchat-gnome does not have a nicer ui at all
[03:04] <FliesLikeABrick> yes exhale
[03:04] <ghost> hi all. I have two questions, how can i set the defauilt view of folders to display hidden files/folders and is there a way to automatically add a certain emblem to all these hidden files/folders?
[03:04] <Efnian_> moonman, long highlighted messages won't wrap to the window on my client.
[03:04] <SurfnKid> !ATI How To
[03:04] <DShepherd> Bilford: close your eyes, that should fix it
[03:04] <ubotu> SurfnKid: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:04] <ggilbert> eggzeck: In my opinion it does :p
[03:04] <moonman> Efnian_, no clue
[03:04] <ggilbert> it's debatable
[03:04] <grimboy> Bilford: There's a certian amount of irony to that statement.
[03:04] <exhale> xchat-gnome sucks compared to xchat, thats what i know.
[03:04] <eggzeck> ggilbert: not in mine, hehe =)
[03:05] <kbrooks> SurfnKid: !ati
[03:05] <kbrooks> !ati
[03:05] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell SurfnKid about ati
[03:05] <ubotu> well, ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:05] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell kbrooks about msgthebot
[03:05] <Efnian_> xchat-gnome is awful.
[03:05] <bur[n] er> ghost: edit preferences, to show hidden files
[03:05] <DShepherd> ghost: nautius, edit preferences
[03:05] <Efnian_> funny, i still support gnome-screensaver.
[03:05] <gnomefreak> FliesLikeABrick: stop that please
[03:05] <moonman> i need a hand getting a .run file to work, any suggestions?
[03:05] <ghost> cool any idea about the emblems?
[03:05] <exhale> xchat-gnome is garbage.
[03:05] <semq> hi there
[03:05] <leboff> is there a disadvantage to running kde and gnome at the same time?
[03:05] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: what is he doing?
[03:05] <baseman_> this is just bizarre
[03:05] <DShepherd> ghost: what about them?
[03:05] <Bilford> I use Konversation
[03:05] <bur[n] er> moonman: probably need to chmod +x it
[03:05] <FliesLikeABrick> no leboff aside from hard drive space usage
[03:05] <moonman> ill try it.
[03:05] <DShepherd> leboff: more memory?
[03:05] <moonman> bur[n] er, ill try it
[03:05] <bur[n] er> ghost: none
[03:05] <leboff> FliestLikeABrick: thats what i like to hear
[03:06] <llorT> Is this a Ubuntu support channel?
[03:06] <ghost> i want ubuntu to automaticaly assign an emblem to show that all hidden files folders are hidden
[03:06] <semq> ive gnome, kde and xfce lebof
[03:06] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: everyone that does !bot he sends the msg the bot trigger to but hes not reading the full thing
[03:06] <FliesLikeABrick> yes llorT
[03:06] <DShepherd> llorT: yes
[03:06] <ggilbert> exhale: happily both are in the repository, so we can use what we each like :)
[03:06] <ghost> coz otherwise it will be hard to tell at a glance which folders are which
[03:06] <gnomefreak> llorT: most of the time whats up?
[03:06] <Healot> Mark is going evil :0-
[03:06] <Bilford> This is a speed-reading improvement channel
[03:06] <Zambezi> Anybody how knows something why Dapper isn't released yet? I've been waiting for three hours! :-P
[03:06] <moonman> bur[n] er, should i sudo that?
[03:06] <kbrooks> Healot: who?
[03:06] <DShepherd> Zambezi: its not ready yet
[03:06] <Bladesonfire> Efnian_, Xchat-gnome is pretty bad =P
[03:06] <bsdfox> Zambezi just download the RC and update :D
[03:06] <kbrooks> Zambezi: jne 1
[03:06] <llorT> I just installed Ubuntu. I noticed that KDE is not installed by default. Therefore, Ubuntu sucks.
[03:07] <ray__> well alrighty... i'm back with a new video card
[03:07] <Hitchhiker> Zambezi: The drake is getting dressed so he can be dapper
[03:07] <kbrooks> llorT: kubuntu
[03:07] <ray__> all's well
[03:07] <DShepherd> llorT: get out!
[03:07] <Bilford> llorT, Kubuntu uses KDE
[03:07] <gnomefreak> Zambezi: type /topic
[03:07] <kspath_>  /ignore llorT
[03:07] <FliesLikeABrick> llorT there is a separate version of ubuntu for KDE named kubuntu
[03:07] <llorT> Sorry.
[03:07] <Zambezi> DShepherd: So you know when?
[03:07] <bsdfox> kde is bunk
[03:07] <kbrooks> DShepherd: DONT BE RUDE
[03:07] <kbrooks> DShepherd: FFS
[03:07] <llorT> I am just upset.
[03:07] <DShepherd> Zambezi: yes.. june 1st :-)
[03:07] <Jeeves_> Zambezi: (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[03:07] <kbrooks> llorT: dont be
[03:07] <bur[n] er> llorT: kubuntu.org
[03:07] <Flannel> llorT: you need kubuntu, not ubuntu.
[03:07] <hyphenated> llorT: it's very little work to install KDE after installing ubuntu
[03:07] <DShepherd> kbrooks: sorry :-(.. i take it back llorT
[03:07] <FliesLikeABrick> llorT you can install kubuntu if you already have ubuntu installed by doing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:07] <moonman> bur[n] er, it returned nothing
[03:07] <Healot> llorT: because you don't read about the releases
[03:07] <grimboy> Just unistall ubuntu-desktop and install kbuntu-desktop
[03:07] <phreekbird> question? ... is there a source file out that that works? i mean i uncomment the universe sections and im getting errors
[03:07] <bsdfox> you're upset because ubuntu doesn't have KDE?
[03:07] <baseman_> or he could just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu"
[03:07] <DShepherd> llorT: it was a serious joke
[03:07] <phreekbird> for breezy btw
[03:07] <paul_> I just want to say thanks for the help I asked for previously. Up and running like a champ. lol :)
[03:07] <Zambezi> DShepherd: I just a little bit Impatient. :-)
[03:07] <hyphenated> baseman_: kubuntu-desktop
[03:07] <bur[n] er> moonman: it shouldn't return anything... "man chmod" to find out what you did
[03:07] <bsdfox> you should be sentenced to using windows
[03:07] <kbrooks> baseman_: kubuntu-desktop
[03:07] <Efnian_> Bladesonfire, first I tried XChat, I couldn't figure it out. The I Tried XCG, it was so awful I just decided to figure XCHat out then :)
[03:08] <baseman_> yeah that one
[03:08] <ray__> i've tried getting the svideo out to work following the following url, but it doesn't seem to be working http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/NvidiaTvOut
[03:08] <llorT> Why is there no KDE in apt-cache?
[03:08] <DShepherd> Zambezi: somewhat
[03:08] <gnomefreak> grimboy: that doesnt work
[03:08] <baseman_> allright can somebody please explain to me how to not have ubuntu discard my ip address randomly
[03:08] <Okita> I'm having trouble figuring out why port 1720 is open on my network, is there a computer security channel?
[03:08] <baseman_> because i'd like to hang onto it
[03:08] <medgno> llorT, , you want to install kubuntu-desktop
[03:08] <Zambezi> I just have to wait and that's something I hate!
[03:08] <DShepherd> llorT: sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[03:08] <FliesLikeABrick> llorT kubuntu-desktop is what you want from apt
[03:08] <Bladesonfire> Efnian_, Xchat is nice... I use it in KDE
[03:08] <bur[n] er> llorT: there is... but get kubuntu-desktop like everyone is saying
[03:08] <grimboy> gnomefreak: shh...
[03:08] <guano> he's a bot. man i'm slow. so slow. i have a burning question and i asked a bot. a bot. i'm slow and a newbie. so who's a real ubuntu authority here that i can ask my secret burning question?
[03:08] <semq> i'm trying to work only on xfce but I have stuff on gnome and kde - any tips?
[03:08] <llorT> DShepherd: Why can't I do apt-get install kde?
[03:08] <cluehammer> i have a burning question, what is this burning
[03:08] <ggilbert> llorT: because the packages weren't named kde
[03:08] <llorT> In Debian, I could do that.
[03:09] <FliesLikeABrick> llorT because it isn't named that ;)
[03:09] <bur[n] er> semq: use the gnome and kde apps within xfce?
[03:09] <FliesLikeABrick> llorT kubuntu-desktop is kde but with small changes for ubuntu so you can use it more normally
[03:09] <gnomefreak> llorT: you can but you would have to install everything else to go along with it
[03:09] <Jeeves_> cluehammer: Hmmm?
[03:09] <bur[n] er> llorT: ubuntu != debian :P
[03:09] <DShepherd> llorT: listen to everyone
[03:09] <llorT> I want to do appt-get install kde :|
[03:09] <edvinasMD5> Is there anything similar to gdesklets?
[03:09] <semq> yes and delete useless stuff
[03:09] <baseman_> i want my dhcp to work *cry*
[03:09] <BadriNarayan> llorT = Troll
[03:09] <gnomefreak> llorT: than do it but you wont find it usable really
[03:09] <llorT> WTF?
[03:09] <Ophiocus> llorT: Linux is all about flexibility, i think its time you follow that lead
[03:09] <bsdfox> llorT go read the website noob
[03:09] <h3h_timo> baseman_, are you using dapper?
[03:09] <FliesLikeABrick> bsdfox be nice
[03:09] <llorT> bsdfox: I'm not a noob.
[03:09] <bsdfox> I wish I had ovary punched your mother years ago
[03:09] <_chuck> I am having problems, linux does not have drivers of my grapics, and when I try to install the crappy intel grapics, it gets programming errors, that not only I am getting... anyone know a possable solution to my problem?
[03:09] <ubuntu_> oi
[03:09] <kbrooks> bsdfox: dont say that
[03:10] <FliesLikeABrick> btw gnomefreak, my apologies for the bot spam
[03:10] <semq> for exemple : id like to delete kde but i want to save what i downloaded b
[03:10] <_chuck> crappy intel drivers*
[03:10] <semq> b4
[03:10] <kbrooks> bsdfox: may i slap you with a blog page?
[03:10] <ray__> will someone help me with getting the svideo working with an nvidia card?
[03:10] <ray__> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/NvidiaTvOut
[03:10] <Roger_The_Bum> wait
[03:10] <gnomefreak> llorT: you can install it as you want we suggest kubuntu-desktop for a reason
[03:10] <ubuntu_> oi
[03:10] <Roger_The_Bum> release parties?
[03:10] <ubuntu_> oi
[03:10] <bsdfox> kbrooks uh, ok
[03:10] <FliesLikeABrick> Roger_The_Bum read the link in the topic
[03:10] <Roger_The_Bum> ITS OUT?!?!?!?!?
[03:10] <llorT> BadriNarayan: Please don't call me a troll.
[03:10] <gnomefreak> no Roger_The_Bum
[03:10] <Bladesonfire> ray__, read the official Nvidia README... it's very good
[03:10] <kspath_> bur[n] er: It is hard to keep up with all the /ignore nickname additions today
[03:10] <ray__> that howto isn't working for me
[03:10] <kbrooks> Roger_The_Bum: NO, IT ISNT
[03:10] <Roger_The_Bum> ok
[03:11] <bur[n] er> kspath_: so true... I love release time ;)
[03:11] <semq> i see you can delete or 'fully' delete but this mess me up
[03:11] <kbrooks> Roger_The_Bum: READ THE TOPIC. TYPE "/topic'.
[03:11] <xhaker> hey.. is there any disk managment utility that shows some disk files location?
[03:11] <baseman_> ugh this is soooo frustrating
[03:11] <semq> scuse my english
[03:11] <Roger_The_Bum> I can read the topic
[03:11] <BadriNarayan> llorT: I just pointed out that your name is an anagram for Troll :) Sorry if you are offended
[03:11] <gnomefreak> baseman_: you have breezy installed?
[03:11] <bsdfox> semq one sends it to the trash can, the other delets it
[03:11] <baseman_> dapper RC
[03:11] <semq> :o
[03:11] <llorT> BadriNarayan: Ruined my attempt to troll in #ubuntu :\
[03:11] <grimboy> It's Troll backward
[03:11] <gnomefreak> baseman_: than what are you waiting for?
[03:11] <cluehammer> eh i dunno, at least gnome-xchat has actual dcc settings
[03:11] <llorT> Oh well.
[03:11] <baseman_> i am trying to get my wifi working
[03:11] <semq> how could I save before deletion?
[03:11] <rixxon> totem + xvid, how?
[03:11] <ray__> Bladesonfire, this link? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=official+nvidia+readme
[03:12] <cluehammer> missing a bunch of other stuff though
[03:12] <cluehammer> tossup
[03:12] <llorT> Sorry about trolling in here.
[03:12] <baseman_> DHCP throws me an IP address, and Dapper drops it
[03:12] <bur[n] er> !tell rixxon about restrictedformats
[03:12] <FliesLikeABrick> thanks gnomefreak
[03:12] <DShepherd> llorT: we still love you
[03:12] <rixxon> thank you bur[n] er
[03:12] <phreekbird> ok so anyone able to help me with breezy sources? <ducks as stuff is thrown at him> ya so i uncommented all the universe ones and im getting errors... anyone able to help?
[03:12] <llorT> Bye.
[03:12] <Bladesonfire> ray__, http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-g.html
[03:12] <hyphenated> ubotu: source-o-matic ?
[03:12] <semq> copy the stuff i downloaded (i wouldnt like to download it again)
[03:12] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:13] <Sgeo> Why is kubuntu-usplash-artwork only Recomment usplash?
[03:13] <Bladesonfire> ray__, I set up my s-video out on my laptop with twinview and it works great
[03:13] <RTB|Waiting4Dapr> ok that should do the trick
[03:13] <ray__> thank you very much, Bladesonfire
[03:13] <semq> (i a linux noob)
[03:13] <edvinasMD5> Is there anything similar to gdesklets?
[03:13] <baseman_> so nobody in here has a clue about DHCP issues?
[03:13] <kbrooks> Sgeo: because it is ARTWORK. artwork does not depend, it recommends
[03:13] <medgno> edvinasMD5, in kde, there's superkaramba
[03:13] <DShepherd> edvinasMD5: on gnome. no
[03:13] <gnomefreak> edvinasMD5: yeah gdesklets
[03:13] <grimboy> gdesklets looks terrible on my machine
[03:14] <FliesLikeABrick> baseman_ can you give me more information about what isn't working, rather than just saying it is broken?
[03:14] <edvinasMD5> ty
[03:14] <baseman_> absolutely.  I am trying to use my orinoco gold wifi card.
[03:14] <bur[n] er> DShepherd: that's only half true.. .you can run opera widgets in gnome
[03:14] <baseman_> It connects to the accesspoint, as evidenced by the lights on the card, iwconfig, and network manager
[03:14] <DShepherd> bur[n] er: ok kool
[03:14] <pepinito> great!
[03:14] <cluehammer> there will always be women in rubber flirting with me
[03:14] <baseman_> It also requests an IP address via DHCP according to my DHCP server
[03:15] <cluehammer> guess the quote!
[03:15] <baseman_> 's logs
[03:15] <kbrooks> Sgeo: people want to see artwork
[03:15] <pepinito> now i have a trash on my desktop
[03:15] <baseman_> and the DHCP server throws one back
[03:15] <pepinito> thanks!
[03:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell cluehammer about offtopic
[03:15] <h3h_timo> baseman_, ive had probems with dhcp and dapper too.. i get addresses and everything... it just wont connect
[03:15] <cluehammer> lol i gotcha
[03:15] <baseman_> ubuntu sets the interface's IP to the one it is given, according to ifconfig and "Connection Properties"
[03:15] <baseman_> ...for about half a second
[03:15] <baseman_> then back to no ip address and the default ipv6 one.
[03:16] <semq> does anyone know how to fully uninstall cedega?
[03:16] <phreekbird> thanks for the help hyphen
[03:16] <Bugs> fortgate: it worked perfectly...thanks mate!
[03:16] <baseman_> based on that expanded information, anyone have a clue?
[03:16] <edvinasMD5> is there any difficulty to change from gnome to kde? And what do you think which one is better?
[03:16] <SurfnKid> FliesLikeABrick, thanks for the ATI link earlier
[03:16] <DShepherd> edvinasMD5: offtopic please
[03:17] <h3h_timo> does anyone know of a program used for downloading files with irc... like an easy way to get files from ircspy????
[03:17] <Bladesonfire> KDE > Gnome ;)
[03:17] <SurfnKid> gotta patch this stuff up
[03:17] <gnomefreak> edvinasMD5: no install the one you dont have than log out click sessions and choose
[03:17] <semq> edvina : kde not bad   but if u like light interface, pick xfce
[03:17] <cluehammer> mm xfce
[03:17] <Bladesonfire> edvinasMD5, I also like XFCE
[03:17] <cluehammer> cholesterol free
[03:17] <grimboy> I found xfce to not have enough stuff.
[03:17] <Efnian_> grimboy, like?
[03:17] <squid> ubuntu-es
[03:17] <edvinasMD5> What's bad in KDE?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> guys take the likes nad dislikes to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:18] <grimboy> Efnian: Stuff
[03:18] <squid> #ubuntu-mx
[03:18] <Sgeo> edvinasMD5, no update-manager
[03:18] <semq> too many icons, slower
[03:18] <gnomefreak> Sgeo: there is in dappers xfce
[03:18] <edvinasMD5> Can i order free dappers cd already?
[03:18] <semq> Sgeo : is this any update manager in xfce?
[03:18] <DShepherd> is there going to be a cd released with Xubuntu?
[03:18] <Flannel> Bladesonfire: there's Xubuntu (xfce)
[03:18] <gnomefreak> edvinasMD5: yes
[03:19] <gnomefreak> semq: there is in the new xfce
[03:19] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: no
[03:19] <semq> xfce4 ?
[03:19] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: ok
[03:19] <gnomefreak> semq: yes
[03:19] <FliesLikeABrick> sorry that you're frustrated baseman_, its just really busy tonight and probably for the next couple nights because of the release
[03:19] <gnomefreak> 4.4
[03:19] <semq> ok i do have xfce4
[03:19] <semq> didnt found it yet
[03:19] <gnomefreak> semq: does it have a panel on top? like gnome?
[03:19] <baseman_> i know, but stuff like this _should_ work
[03:20] <baseman_> i mean it's not like i'm trying to recompile the kernel
[03:20] <sutur> edvinasMD5: you can order them already. go to: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[03:20] <Bladesonfire> Flannel, I have Xubuntu installed on one of my computers =D
[03:20] <semq> ;o 4.4            synaptic doesnt have xfce 4.4 i think
[03:20] <FliesLikeABrick> baseman_ did you set up the dhcpd on another computer, or is it dhcp from a router/etc?
[03:20] <semq> yes panel on top and bottm
[03:20] <squid> #ubuntu-es
[03:20] <edvinasMD5> oh, i already did it :)
[03:20] <gnomefreak> semq: your on breezy
[03:20] <InvisiblePinkUni> 24 hours from when?
[03:20] <baseman_> it's on my server
[03:20] <FliesLikeABrick> InvisiblePinkUni see /topic
[03:20] <kspath_> squid: try /join #ubuntu-es
[03:20] <FliesLikeABrick> InvisiblePinkUni within 24h from 00:00 GMT
[03:20] <semq> yes gnome
[03:20] <rixxon> installed totem-xine, where the heck is it?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> semq: the update notifier is there on xfce 4.4
[03:20] <InvisiblePinkUni> FliesLikeABrick: :)
[03:20] <baseman_> everything works fine on the breezy laptop not three feet away
[03:21] <gnomefreak> !info totem-xine
[03:21] <ubotu> totem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 776 kB, Installed size: 4492 kB
[03:21] <gnomefreak> rixxon: universe
[03:21] <semq> i have to install manually without synaptic?
[03:21] <FliesLikeABrick> baseman_ what do you have your lease time set to?
[03:21] <rixxon> gnomefreak: i mean where is it on my computer, how do i star tit
[03:21] <InvisiblePinkUni> can the topic be set to "countdown" the time....
[03:21] <baseman_> on the server?
[03:21] <baseman_> like 24 hours or so I believe
[03:21] <gnomefreak> rixxon: under totem in the menu
[03:21] <FliesLikeABrick> yes baseman_ on the server
[03:21] <FliesLikeABrick> InvisiblePinkUni there is not an exact time set
[03:21] <rixxon> gnomefreak: what menu? :/
[03:21] <edvinasMD5> how can I be root on my desktop, not in terminal?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> rixxon: if you didnt already type killall gnome-panel
[03:21] <dmbt> *people*: dapper will be ready when its *ready* be patient
[03:21] <Bladesonfire> !root
[03:21] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:22] <grimboy> rixxon: now you can't use the gstreamer backend
[03:22] <gnomefreak> rixxon: its under multimedia
[03:22] <chapium> semq, you can get a .deb of the latest xfce right from the xfce website i think
[03:22] <semq> how can i update my xfce version gnomefreak?
[03:22] <Bladesonfire> edvinasMD5, that link was for you ;)
[03:22] <Flannel> edvinasMD5: gksudo nautilus will make a nautilus window with root privledges
[03:22] <InvisiblePinkUni> loosing users ... down from 925 to 898...
[03:22] <rixxon> gnomefreak: i don't have a multimedia menu
[03:22] <chapium> semq, there is also an installer that will compile it for you
[03:22] <gnomefreak> semq: upgrade to dapper
[03:22] <semq> ty chapium
[03:22] <FliesLikeABrick> InvisiblePinkUni we can see ;)
[03:22] <gnomefreak> rixxon: sound
[03:22] <semq> is dapper a beta version?
[03:22] <rixxon> gnomefreak: only normal totem is there
[03:22] <Tweek888> Hello, I'm having some trouble setting up nvidia-glx on dapper
[03:22] <edvinasMD5> well i want to edit gdesklets source
[03:22] <gnomefreak> rixxon: no its not
[03:22] <grimboy> It is normal totem
[03:22] <FliesLikeABrick> semq only for the next 24h or less.  it will be available as stable tomorrow
[03:22] <InvisiblePinkUni> FliesLikeABrick: we must stop users from leaving.... get 1000 users.... ;)
[03:23] <semq> great ;)
[03:23] <gnomefreak> rixxon: totem-xine and totem can not live on same system with apt
[03:23] <rixxon> grimboy: but normal totem can't play xvid for me?
[03:23] <Flannel> edvinasMD5: you'll need to download the source then, from the repositories
[03:23] <ryno> I have a usb device that works fine when it's coldplugged but when I turn it off and then turn it back on the module doesn't come up anymore. Any idea how I can figure out why and how to fix it?
[03:23] <baseman_> ugh why is this
[03:23] <FliesLikeABrick> gnomefreak is dapper technically considered beta right now or something more since it is past RC?
[03:23] <chapium> dapper was a horrible upgrade for me, it enticed me to mess with things i shouldn't.  Like xgl.  Now my gdm is screwed :(
[03:23] <grimboy> rixxon: Use gxine then
[03:23] <gnomefreak> rixxon: if you install totem-xine than the totem you see is it
[03:23] <gnomefreak> FliesLikeABrick: rc
[03:23] <glanz> ?????
[03:23] <FliesLikeABrick> thanks gnomefreak, just a technicality
[03:23] <DShepherd> chapium: heheeh
[03:23] <edvinasMD5> there is an option, view source, but only read only, i think i could edit it, if i would be root
[03:23] <kspath_>  /ignore chapium
[03:23] <gnomefreak> FliesLikeABrick: depends for people that have it?
[03:23] <chapium> but thats really my own fault, not dappers directly
[03:24] <rixxon> gnomefreak: yea but totem fails to play xvid :p
[03:24] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah gnomefreak I was referring to the status of the available version
[03:24] <gnomefreak> FliesLikeABrick: ive been on dapper stable for over 12 hours
[03:24] <FliesLikeABrick> as have I gnomefreak
[03:24] <Flannel> edvinasMD5: so, close it, then gksudo gdesklets
[03:24] <gnomefreak> FliesLikeABrick: rc
[03:24] <gnomefreak> rixxon: did you install the xine codecs?
[03:24] <DShepherd> rixxon: i think you need one of the gstreamer packages,, bad or the ugly.. i think, i;m not sure
[03:25] <rixxon> gnomefreak: 'sudo apt-get install totem-xine' - gonna try gxine now anyway
[03:25] <nosklo> ryno, which usb device is that?
[03:25] <edvinasMD5> md5@vodka:~$ gksudo gdesklets
[03:25] <edvinasMD5> You must NOT run gDesklets as super user (root).
[03:25] <grimboy> rixxon: That's not a codec that's a backend
[03:25] <gnomefreak> edvinasMD5: right click gnome panel you should beable to add them there
[03:26] <rixxon> so what do i apt-get :)
[03:26] <gnomefreak> rixxon: there are xine codecs to play certain files
[03:26] <edvinasMD5> i can add them, but i can't edit them :)
[03:26] <jmworx> I want to install Dapper now. What should I use (rc/beta/whatever)?
[03:26] <rixxon> it did install some libxine or something
[03:26] <glanz> I got the codecs frol PLF then use only xine... I'm on Xubuntu-- already up2date
[03:26] <ryno> nosklo: It's m audio quattro sound card. I know I was able to get the modules to come back online after power down in debian.
[03:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell rixxon about restricted
[03:26] <kbrooks> jmworx: rc, then upgrade
[03:26] <gnomefreak> rixxon: your pm has the site you need
[03:26] <semq> see you all
[03:26] <jmworx> kbrooks: where can I grab the latest rc?
[03:26] <DShepherd> rixxon: try gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and totem should play your files..
[03:26] <gnomefreak> !rc
[03:26] <ubotu> The release candidate for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. For more info on how to get the release candidate see http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/
[03:27] <kbrooks> jmworx: iirc, there is only one
[03:27] <rixxon> DShepherd: one ugly, one bad? which is good!
[03:27] <gnomefreak> most u0pto date iso http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[03:27] <JoeyB2> when I install dapper I want to put my home directory on a separate drive, how do I do that?
[03:27] <DShepherd> rixxon: they should all be :-)
[03:27] <gnomefreak> JoeyB2: create it when you mannully partitions it
[03:28] <Sakkath> How can I RAID two firewire extrenal HDDs?
[03:28] <grimboy> rixxon: If you do that you'll have to reinstall totem-gstreamer as those are gstreamer codecs
[03:28] <rixxon> DShepherd: why are they called ugly and bad
[03:28] <FliesLikeABrick> Sakkath at install time or afterwards?
[03:28] <edvinasMD5> is it possible to get in the Ubuntu team?
[03:28] <Sakkath> FliesLikeABrick: after
[03:28] <grimboy> edvinasMD5: Yes, just contribute.
[03:28] <Nullified> Whats the time UTC atm
[03:28] <gnomefreak> Nullified: date -u
[03:28] <FliesLikeABrick> Sakkath take a look at the program called "mdadm"
[03:28] <Nullified> date -u
[03:28] <edvinasMD5> contribute ? what does it mean?
[03:29] <gnomefreak> Nullified: in terminal
[03:29] <DShepherd> rixxon: the stuff they have.. in themm they are bad and ugly :-)
[03:29] <telache> Anyone ever use Easyubuntu?
[03:29] <DShepherd> telache: yes
[03:29] <Sakkath> FliesLikeABrick: same if im on PPC version of ubuntu?
[03:29] <rixxon> DShepherd: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is already the newest version.
[03:29] <Nullified> Im not on linux atm gnomefreak mines fecked
[03:29] <FliesLikeABrick> yes Sakkath
[03:29] <DShepherd> rixxon: u have bad?
[03:29] <openback> what's the easiest way for me to check if samba is starting on my machine? I don't think it is even when I execute "sudo /etc/init.d/samba start"
[03:29] <gnomefreak> Nullified: Thu Jun  1 01:30:24 UTC 2006
[03:29] <Sakkath> FliesLikeABrick: thanks, i'll check it out...
[03:29] <Knorrie> openback: ps axu | grep smbd
[03:29] <rixxon> DShepherd: no, i thought i needed only either of them :P
[03:29] <FliesLikeABrick> glad I could help Sakkath
[03:29] <jmworx> kbrooks: thanks, found it
[03:29] <poimen> I can Install kde and gnome in same installation witout conflicts?
[03:29] <suspekt> wooot!
[03:30] <FliesLikeABrick> yes poimen
[03:30] <openback> Knorrie: my brain froze, thanks
[03:30] <Sakkath> FliesLikeABrick: another question, the main FS is ext3, if i make these drives raided, should I use ext3, or can I use reiserfs?
[03:30] <Healot> Sakkath: good guide for RAID/LVM >> http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_node/parted_toc.html
[03:30] <suspekt> RELEASE PARTY UP T
[03:30] <Knorrie> openback: np
[03:30] <telache> DSheperd: I downloaded the tarball and when I open it, it extracts nothing.  Is there an easier way to do this?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> suspekt: stop spamming please
[03:30] <FliesLikeABrick> Sakkath you can use whatever filesystem you want on it, like a normal partition
[03:30] <Nullified> thx gnomefreak
[03:30] <gnomefreak> Nullified: yw
[03:30] <rixxon> DShepherd: ok, installed bad, totem still doesn't play xvid
[03:30] <DShepherd> telache: not that i know if
[03:30] <poimen> I just do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[03:30] <Sakkath> FliesLikeABrick: but it won't make a difference if it's different than the root?
[03:30] <DShepherd> rixxon: oh :-(
[03:30] <grimboy> rixxon: Make sure when you play it the player is using the gstreamer backend
[03:30] <openback> Knorrie: would smb be the same? I have that, but not smbd
[03:30] <gnomefreak> rixxon: please get the xine codecs off the site ubotu gave you
[03:30] <grimboy> rixxon: You installed the xine backend
[03:31] <FliesLikeABrick> correct Sakkath
[03:31] <telache> Why isn't easyubuntu available on Apt-get?  How can we get it there for noobs like me?
[03:31] <thomag> If I download the RC, can I update to 6.06 when it's released?
[03:31] <Sakkath> FliesLikeABrick: thanks
[03:31] <rixxon> grimboy: so, what should i do?
[03:31] <FliesLikeABrick> Uberriffic tell telache about easyubuntu
[03:31] <gnomefreak> thomag: yes
[03:31] <Sakkath> FliesLikeABrick: would that be just mkreiserfs?
[03:31] <FliesLikeABrick> ubotu: tell telache about easyubuntu
[03:31] <thomag> What's the magic?
[03:31] <FliesLikeABrick> yes Sakkath  ;)
[03:31] <Sakkath> FliesLikeABrick: ok thanks very much :D
[03:31] <grimboy> rixxon: Do what ubotu tells you
[03:31] <gnomefreak> thomag: there is none lol
[03:31] <kbrooks> telache: http://kbrooks.ath.cx/index.php/2006/05/03/inclusion-of-easyubuntu-in-ubuntu/
[03:32] <Knorrie> openback: no, you should see smbd and nmdb
[03:32] <thomag> Well... terminal commands are magic until I know them.
[03:32] <Knorrie> nmbd
[03:32] <gnomefreak> thomag: the updates stopped comming so if you get rc you might have 60 or so than poof your on stable
[03:32] <DShepherd> rixxon: i think thats your package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[03:32] <telache> Thanks guys.
[03:32] <rixxon> grimboy: it doesn't tell me about 'backends'
[03:32] <kbrooks> telache: read this. you may not understand it, so ask
[03:32] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell rixxon about restricted
[03:32] <jmworx> kbrooks: when's the release date for the final version BTW?
[03:32] <kbrooks> telache: do you understand what a copyright is?
[03:32] <DShepherd> rixxon: yeah,, i think that your plugin.. gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[03:32] <suspekt> wait what whas that? you can't upgrade from RC to full?
[03:33] <thomag> I might have heard it was sudo apt-get something.
[03:33] <FliesLikeABrick> jmworx read /topic
[03:33] <gnomefreak> rixxon: go to that websiote and follow the directions for xine codecs
[03:33] <kbrooks> suspekt: you can
[03:33] <FliesLikeABrick> suspekt you can once it is released
[03:33] <FliesLikeABrick> suspekt er, rather.  you can now
[03:33] <kbrooks> suspekt: its dsesigned like that
[03:33] <kbrooks> telache: There?
[03:33] <grimboy> rixxon: Ignore me, listen to gnomefreak
[03:33] <mcmahons> FliesLikeABrick: are the apt repositories now stable or still an rc
[03:33] <gnomefreak> anyone on ubuntu breezy/dapper no need to wait for release
[03:33] <suspekt> its just an apt-get distrobution upgrade
[03:33] <Flannel> mcmahons: RC still currently
[03:33] <FliesLikeABrick> mcmahons they should now be stable
[03:34] <telache> kbrooks: I don't know what you mean by "copyright"
[03:34] <mcmahons> FliesLikeABrick: how can I tell
[03:34] <openback> I'm having a problem where samba does not start on my machine. How can I start to debug it, as i don't know where errormessages would be displayed?
[03:34] <kbrooks> telache: the right to copy
[03:34] <mcmahons> Flannel: ne way of telling
[03:34] <bkh> So is there a picture of the Dapper Drake? :)
[03:34] <mcmahons> openback: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[03:34] <FliesLikeABrick> openback if there are errors check in /var/log for samba errors and /var/log/syslog
[03:34] <DShepherd> bkh:  lost
[03:34] <kbrooks> bkh: LOL. no
[03:34] <Warbo> Does anyone know why totem might lose sound? (would "/dev/dsp in use" be the problem? I've stopped any process that might be using it)
[03:34] <telache> kbrooks: seems simple enough
[03:34] <DShepherd> bkh:  lots
[03:35] <poimen> suspekt : u using rc?
[03:35] <suspekt> atm
[03:35] <bkh> hehe... within seconds, I get yes, no, and no idea, it seems :)
[03:35] <gnomefreak> suspekt: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:35] <openback> mcmahons: I've done that, I get no messages and nothing starts
[03:35] <poimen> suspekt : the just do   sudo apt-get update
[03:35] <Sgeo> Warbo, you using GNOME or KDE?
[03:35] <kbrooks> telache: you apparently don't understand ;)
[03:35] <poimen> suspekt : and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:35] <kbrooks> telache: "seems"
[03:35] <openback> FliesLikeABrick: I've looked in there and I see no recent messages for smbd or nmbd in there
[03:35] <Sakkath> FliesLikeABrick: permission to query you?
[03:35] <mcmahons> openback: hmm ok, can you make it start with verbose out put like with a -v switch
[03:35] <FliesLikeABrick> sure Sakkath
[03:36] <Warbo> Sgeo: GNOME and Xine
[03:36] <Sgeo> Oh.
[03:36] <edvinasMD5> md5@vodka:~$ gpg --clearsign ~/md5.txt
[03:36] <edvinasMD5> gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available
[03:36] <edvinasMD5> gpg: /home/md5/md5.txt: clearsign failed: secret key not available
[03:36] <Sgeo> I remember having problems with Totem on KDE
[03:36] <edvinasMD5> What's wrong?
[03:36] <phreekbird> ok still getting errors with the sourceOmatic thingy ... here is the source list --> http://pastebin.com/750397   and here is the error(s) im getting  --->http://pastebin.com/750391
[03:36] <openback> mcmahons: through the init.d script? I just tried and I didn't get any message at all
[03:36] <suspekt> 29 packaged upgraded
[03:36] <telache> kbrooks: easy ubuntu is not GPL?
[03:36] <thomag> !rc
[03:36] <ubotu> The release candidate for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS. For more info on how to get the release candidate see http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/
[03:36] <suspekt> not much diffrent then rc?
[03:36] <mcmahons> openback: try find the binary itself
[03:36] <kbrooks> telache: pm me
[03:36] <Warbo> Sgeo: Nevermind, I think it was Moho hogging the soundcard
[03:37] <poimen> suspekt : and that will get you to the latest 6.06   if you do that by tomorow again I think u will have the final version
[03:37] <Sgeo> Moho?
[03:37] <edvinasMD5> no1 knows? o_0?
[03:37] <Warbo> Sgeo: commercial software (therefore can't be rewritten to use better soundserver)
[03:37] <todayisagift> is there a linux program that allows for remote desktop to a windows machine??
[03:37] <Warbo> todayisagift: VNC is widely supported
[03:38] <rixxon> got xvid working, thanks everyone who helped me!
[03:38] <T-CAN> is there anyway I can play .wmv or .avi movies?
[03:38] <openback> mcmahons: well good point, I see quite a few smb* programs, but no smbd or nmbd. Which package am I missing then?
[03:38] <rixxon> !tell T-CAN about restricted
[03:38] <T-CAN> i havent found any packages in synaptec
[03:38] <DShepherd> rixxon: what was the solution?
[03:38] <jrsims> hey, looks like I deleted my home directory and all my settings files for gnome.
[03:38] <jmworx> FliesLikeABrick: Oops, thanks
[03:38] <poimen> suspekt : dist-upgrade is when u are using another number of relese like if yopuwere using breezy (5.10 ) and want to go to dapper (6.06)
[03:38] <jrsims> How do I create a new gnome profile
[03:38] <jrsims> ?
[03:38] <rixxon> DShepherd: i don't quite know, installed _all_ packages mentioned for ubuntu dapper :D
[03:38] <shane_> t-can - mplayer
[03:38] <Warbo> !tell T-CAN about universe
[03:38] <DShepherd> rixxon: ok kool
[03:38] <poimen> suspekt : got it?
[03:39] <DShepherd> rixxon: as long as your happy man.
[03:39] <rixxon> DShepherd: hehe ;)
[03:39] <T-CAN> ya, i have universe and multiverse enabled
[03:39] <T-CAN> i just need to know which packages to get
[03:39] <T-CAN> if there are any
[03:39] <jrsims> Can anyone tell me how to create a new Gnome profile after I accidentally killed my home directory?
[03:39] <pianoboy3333> What command will give me all the packages that I can update, but just a list, not apt-get update
[03:40] <Warbo> T-CAN: Just get anything beginning with "gstreamer" and you should be OK
[03:40] <rixxon> T-CAN: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-16ea04e7e1ecd06555912ba3f470b56563cbd85d
[03:40] <todayisagift> can you think of anything else other than VNC?
[03:40] <bkh> VNC is the standard way of getting remote desktops
[03:40] <grimboy> T-CAN: sudo apt-get install gstreamer*
[03:41] <bkh> Both in the windows world and linux
[03:41] <Healot> OS independent i would say
[03:41] <todayisagift> ok then ubuntu is what version of linux (x...)
[03:41] <jrsims> Hello!! Can anyone tell me how to create a new Gnome profile after I accidentally killed my home directory?
[03:41] <mcmahons> pianoboy3333: there'll be a switch for apt-get update, do a man apt
[03:41] <DShepherd> T-CAN: use synpatic and install gstreamer0.10 stuff
[03:41] <Warbo> pianoboy3333: Dunno. If you use the clean option then --download-only you would know that everything in /var/cache/apt/archives was upgradable
[03:42] <Warbo> jrsims: Usually just logging in again will do it (after copying anything from /etc/skel to your new home)
[03:42] <_tmx_dt2> hey can any1 help me mount my ntfs primary hard drive that i can't find ever since I BSOD safe mode or not.  thanks
[03:42] <delire> 888 nicks. nize
[03:42] <matthew> hi
[03:43] <Tweek888> Has anyone not been able to get nvidia drivers working properly on dapper?
[03:43] <jrsims> Warbo: well, I will enter gnome from the login screen, but then all I get is a screen with my mouse pointer on it
[03:43] <matthew> how do i install apps and programs on gnome?
[03:43] <todayisagift> what version of linux is ubuntu?
[03:43] <jrsims> Warbo: no menu bars or anything
[03:43] <Harold_P> there is no version of linux..
[03:43] <Harold_P> just kernel version, really
[03:43] <jrsims> Warbo: so I was thinking I probably killed all my gnome settings in the home directory.
[03:43] <NoUse> Harold_P linux is the kernel :-)
[03:44] <grimboy> And versions of gnu tools
[03:44] <DShepherd> matthew: synaptic
[03:44] <jpatota> todayisagift, ubuntu is a verion of linux
[03:44] <grimboy> Linux is nothing without gnu tools
[03:44] <Warbo> jrsims: Did you lose your actual home directory?
[03:44] <bkh> There should be something like /etc/skel/ with a base gnome home dir stuff in it
[03:44] <mcmahons> todayisagift: it uses linux version 2.6 (that is linux kernel 2.6)
[03:44] <matthew> what is synaptic?
[03:44] <jpatota> that too
[03:44] <earthen_> matthew,  simantic or comand line atp-get install "name of package"
[03:44] <suspekt> i was about to say i always condisdured 'linux' in the way a person would talk about it is made of up of lots of diffrent core programs
[03:44] <_tmx_dt2> hey can any1 help me mount my ntfs primary hard drive that i can't find ever since I BSOD safe mode or not.  thanks
[03:44] <NoUse> todayisagift Linux is the the piece that talks to the hardware, if you want to know what version of Linux you are running run 'uname -a'
[03:44] <jrsims> Warbo: well, no. but everything in it is gone.
[03:44] <Tweek888> Can some one help me with configuring my nvidia drivers?
[03:44] <shane_> matthew - front end to apt
[03:44] <Tweek888> they're just not working..
[03:44] <Warbo> bkh: I think /etc/skel just has base stuff to log in, and once in GNOME makes it's own configs if they are not there
[03:44] <NoUse> todayisagift if you want to know what version of ubuntu you are running run 'lsb_release -a'
[03:45] <Warbo> jrsims: including hidden stuff?
[03:45] <earthen_> matthew, it the gui program for install software, it will download what you want and install it for you
[03:45] <shane_> nouse - good info
[03:45] <grimboy> _tmx_dt2: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[03:45] <jrsims> Warbo: yeah. I just did an "ls -a" though, and it looks like I have some of my settings files back. Still, gnome won't fully load.
[03:45] <bkh> warbo: That's what I thought, but the guy said that didn't work...
[03:45] <jpatota> _tmx_dt2, does it show up in your bios or /etc/fstab?
[03:46] <theCore> how do I lock a package version in command line?
[03:46] <matthew> i cant find gui
[03:46] <earthen_> matthew, it in System-->Administration -->Synaptic package manager
[03:46] <_tmx_dt2> it shows up in bios lemme check etc/fstab
[03:46] <todayisagift> NoUse: the reason i ask is when i go to d/l VNC it asks linux (x86, x64, ia64) and i just dont know
[03:47] <void^> theCore: apt-cache policy
[03:47] <_tmx_dt2> i don't have a fstab folder :-x
[03:47] <delire> todayisagift: ia64 is Itanium. x64 is AMD64, x86 is generic intel
[03:47] <cowbud> w00t w00t dapper
[03:47] <grimboy> _tmx_dt2: It's not a folder
[03:47] <delire> cowbud: countdown to rockinpops
[03:47] <matthew> earthen ok i found it i download an app from a site now how do i install
[03:47] <Warbo> jrsims: Hmmm. Are you really concerned with your settings (ie. customised to the extreme like me) because maybe deleting them and letting them be remade might work. However, it may not be a settings problem, it may be a  network/authentication one
[03:47] <cowbud> delire: is there actually a countdown? :)
[03:47] <earthen_> matthew, GUI stands for Graphical User Interface
[03:47] <delire> cowbud: there should be!
[03:47] <_tmx_dt2> what is it?
[03:47] <jdub> todayisagift: you're looking for a vnc client?
[03:47] <cowbud> indeed there should be :)
[03:47] <theCore> void^: how do I lock one?
[03:47] <earthen_> matthew, if you can see your desktop you have gui
[03:47] <kspath>  /topic
[03:48] <delire> theCore: what do you mean by 'lock'?
[03:48] <cowbud> I got loads of systems waiting to get the official I know a snapshot would probably work but meh :)
[03:48] <grimboy> _tmx_dt2: sudo gedit /etc/fstab from the terminal
[03:48] <_tmx_dt2> lol even i knew that ;)
[03:48] <jrsims> Warbo: well, I'm not too worried about my settings, and it does look like many of the settings files were recreated when I attempted to log in again.
[03:48] <jpatota> _tmx_dt2:, http://www.linuxforum.com/linux_tutorials/1/1.php
[03:48] <todayisagift> jdub: yea do you have any suggestions, i need to vnc, (with full control) from my unix machine to a windows machine
[03:48] <delire> cowbud: my bt client is chomping at the bit.. foaming even.
[03:48] <earthen_> matthew, if you downloaded it with the Synaptic package manager then it is allready installed
[03:48] <Warbo> jrsims: I have encountered this before, but I forgot how I solved it. I think it was a permission thing
[03:48] <jrsims> Warbo: so maybe it's not the fact that I killed my files, it's something else. I'm not sure what to do. Would an apt-get of gnome be an idea?
[03:48] <jdub> todayisagift: there's one installed by default, the frontend for it is called 'terminal server client' (under internet in your menu)
[03:48] <_tmx_dt2> how do you access the root in ubuntu?
[03:48] <Flannel> !tell _tmx_dt2 about root
[03:48] <theCore> delire: I have custom packages, and I don't want APT overwrite them
[03:48] <grimboy> delire: Speaking of that, how come all of ubuntu's bittorrent clients suck
[03:48] <jpatota> _tmx_dt2, sudo -s
[03:49] <TTT_Travis> is Ubuntu Server Dapper Drake going to be released in the next 24 hours too?
[03:49] <delire> theCore: right, are you talking about 'pinning'?
[03:49] <matthew> i downloaded it to my desktop
[03:49] <_tmx_dt2> whats sudo -s ?
[03:49] <jdub> todayisagift: always look for packages in ubuntu before going to random websites :)
[03:49] <jpatota> _tmx_dt2, from the command line
[03:49] <Warbo> jrsims: I think removing your user and adding it again might work better as I think there are important files in your home for logging you into X
[03:49] <Flannel> TTT_Travis: all Dapper versions will be released at the same time
[03:49] <theCore> delire: yea
[03:49] <bimberi> theCore: you can do it in Synaptic via the Package menu (Lock Version)
[03:49] <grimboy> delire: like su
[03:49] <delire> grimboy: i only use btdownloadcurses. i did try azureus for a few months.
[03:49] <earthen_> matthew, what did you download
[03:49] <jpatota> _tmx_dt2, type it then 'vi /etc/fstab'
[03:49] <cowbud> delire: :)
[03:49] <_tmx_dt2> oh nvm i ran terminal; i think thats the command line prompt you guys are tryn to mention lol
[03:49] <cowbud> jdub: you shit us not eh?
[03:49] <theCore> bimberi: I know but I want to do it in command line
[03:49] <ali> n00b question: i am trying to install mplayer but i am getting this error mplayer-386: Depends: libjack0.80.0-0 (>= 0.99.0) but it is not installable
[03:49] <ali>                Depends: libpolyp0 but it is not installable
[03:49] <ali> E: Broken packages
[03:49] <jrsims> Warbo: ok. do you know the command? is it just a 'useradd'?
[03:50] <grimboy> delire: Oops not you, and thanks
[03:50] <matthew> nero linux
[03:50] <earthen_> matthew, or what are you trying to install
[03:50] <Warbo> jrsims: either that or adduser :)
[03:50] <bimberi> theCore: ah, missed that bit ...
[03:50] <bimberi> ubotu tell theCore about pinning
[03:50] <bkh> I think useradd is System V way and adduser is BSD style...
[03:50] <theCore> bimberi: thanks
[03:50] <ali> anyone?
[03:50] <jrsims> Warbo: yeah, isn't there a difference - like you can add a user but it won't create a home dir, or something like that? Various adduser options?
[03:51] <jdub> jrsims: what is the problem?
[03:51] <earthen_> matthew, ok then you'll have to read the doc's for that as it is a custom install
[03:51] <delire> theCore: you'll need to specify your pinning in /etc/apt/preferences.
[03:51] <bimberi> theCore: yw :)
[03:51] <matthew> oh ok
[03:51] <Warbo> matthew: That isn't really needed as most funtionality is built into the file manager (it won't corrupt your discs like Explorer will) and then there is GnomeBaker and K3b which are very good and already in Ubuntu
[03:51] <jrsims> jdub: login from gdm is fine, but Gnome comes up with just a mouse pointer and background color
[03:51] <shane_> ali - installing via synaptic?
[03:51] <earthen_> matthew,  sorry I can't help with that maybe someone else here installed it
[03:51] <Warbo> jrsims: I honestly don't know (adduser seems fine whenever I use it)
[03:51] <todayisagift> jdub: what do i have to do to the windows machine to allow my unix box to connect
[03:52] <jrsims> Warbo: cool. I'll look at the man page and try that.
[03:52] <Flannel> jrsims: does gnome safe mode work?
[03:52] <jdub> todayisagift: either enable terminal services, or install a vnc server
[03:52] <jrsims> Flannel: hmm. have not tried!
[03:52] <earthen_> matthew,  you can serch in the  Synaptic package manager for another cd burner program though
[03:52] <jdub> jrsims: type ifconfig at the command line -> is there a 'lo' interface listed?
[03:52] <shane_> K3b
[03:52] <jrsims> jdub: checking...
[03:52] <sg47_> I read about this single command thing to setup a server
[03:52] <felipe__> In which timezone are the guys who update the ubuntu download page. I'm waiting for the dapper link
[03:53] <Warbo> flannel: Doesn't gnome safe mode just turn off any custom startup programs? He can't even log in so I don't think it would help
[03:53] <sg47_> does it work with RC1 too?
[03:53] <jdub> sg47_: there's a server CD which you can use to install; one of the installation choices is 'LAMP server'
[03:53] <Flannel> Warbo: he can't get to GDM? or can't get into gnome?
[03:53] <jrsims> jdub: yes there is a lo
[03:53] <jpatota> _tmx_dt2, paste the contents of your /etc/fstab into a pastebot on the channel
[03:53] <earthen_> matthew, I think gnomebaker is sopost to be good
[03:53] <delire> theCore: there is a manpage on it somewhere. i can't remember right now. you can just use: 'Package: <PackageName>' on one line and then 'Pin: version <version number>' on the line below.
[03:53] <Warbo> Flannel: GNOME (just a pointer on a blank screen)
[03:53] <dmbt> k3b is the best burning software
[03:53] <grimboy> I think the whole, lamp out of the box thing is horribly biased.
[03:53] <Warbo> Flannel: I think it is permission problem
[03:53] <jrsims> Flannel: I get GDM, and login works, then it tries to open gnome and I get just a mouse pointer and the background color. I can move the mouse, but nothing else loads.
[03:53] <dmbt> whether you use gnome or not
[03:54] <Flannel> right, try safe mode.  see if that works.
[03:54] <delire> theCore: i like to use a wildcard for the version number: eg. 'Pin: version 0.6.7.*'
[03:54] <shane_> matthew - K3b is a great app for burning CD/DVDx
[03:54] <sg47_> can you give me the link to Dapper RC1?
[03:54] <jrsims> Flannel: k. back in a bit!
[03:54] <theCore> delire:  I already got it, thanks for the help
[03:54] <delire> theCore: np
[03:54] <phreekbird> ok is anyone able to help me? problems with source.list - here is the source list --> http://pastebin.com/750397 and here is the error(s) im getting --->http://pastebin.com/750391    really like ubuntu but dang its a pain to get a sourcelist setup right
[03:54] <bur[n] er> sg47_: google and you'll find it no doubt
[03:54] <grimboy> Yeah, it's a share k3b is the only decent cd/dvd burner
[03:54] <sg47_> what crap?
[03:54] <jdub> jrsims: log in again, then put the output of 'ps afx' somewhere
[03:55] <Antipodean> hey all ;)
[03:55] <Warbo> grimboy: xcdroast was quite godd (haven't used it in a while) and it used a different interface to the "Nero stlye" that k3b and gnome-baker use
[03:55] <ali> please help me install mplayer, i am getting some errors
[03:55] <delire> phreekbird: you shouldn't need to edit the sources.list directly..
[03:55] <bimberi> ubotu tell ali about mplayer
[03:55] <bur[n] er> xfburn is neat these days
[03:56] <DShepherd> phreekbird: you upgrading from breezy to dapper?
[03:56] <sg47_> is Dapper going to be released tomorrow?
[03:56] <shane_> dapper release candidate - http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperrc
[03:56] <FliesLikeABrick> sg47_ read /topic
[03:56] <Warbo> Well, my CD writer isn't working at the moment anyway
[03:56] <brad`> fridge says its released already
[03:56] <bkh> The well dressed duck will be released today
[03:56] <Flannel> phreekbird: try removing us. from all those mirrors, sometimes the us mirror goes down.
[03:56] <Xaero_Vincent> clear
[03:56] <kspath> brad`: /topic
[03:56] <jdub> brad`: it certainly does not
[03:56] <sg47_> FliesLikeABrick, can I download RC1 now and upgrade to the stable version?
[03:56] <Xaero_Vincent> COOL!! less than 24 hours to kick butt OS :D
[03:57] <Flannel> sg47_: yes.
[03:57] <jdub> sg47_: yes
[03:57] <FliesLikeABrick> yes sg47_
[03:57] <brad`> # Ubuntu 6.06 Release(event)(NOW)
[03:57] <Harold_P> lol lies
[03:57] <Madpilot> brad`, the Fridge's calendar is a bit simple-minded
[03:57] <kspath> !tell brad` about dapper
[03:57] <jdub> brad`: that's a calendar entry for today, not an announcement
[03:57] <Flannel> brad`: it defaults to 00:00 for the time, (since only a date was entered).
[03:57] <Xaero_Vincent> um... the servers are going to be packed though
[03:57] <Xaero_Vincent> i'll probably wait until next week to get it
[03:57] <FliesLikeABrick> use the torrents Xaero_Vincent
[03:58] <sg47_> I just have one question. Can I add a second hard disk after I have installed Ubuntu? How does it get recognized?
[03:58] <brad`> i watched it could the hours down from 15 hours, hopeing the release was automated at 0 :)
[03:58] <FliesLikeABrick> the torrents will be very fast
[03:58] <FliesLikeABrick> yes sg47_ you can
[03:58] <sg47_> I have had problems with adding a second hard to Linux after I've installed it
[03:58] <NoUse> phreekbird that first line that says Failed to fetch..., put that URL into your browser and see what it displays
[03:58] <rob138> how do i set up a user/password for a samba share?
[03:58] <Flannel> !tell rob138 about samba
[03:58] <delire> phreekbird: i don't know what's up there. i just downloaded http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz and gunzipped it ok.
[03:58] <FliesLikeABrick> rob138  sudo smbpasswd <username>
[03:58] <bimberi> rob138: sudo smbpasswd -a username
[03:58] <Flannel> rob138, at the bottom half of that, talks about it.
[03:58] <bur[n] er> sg47_: you can, and it doesn't till you format it and mount it... try to use gparted to partition it and then browse it in nautilus
[03:58] <easthero> !dapper
[03:58] <threat> hey
[03:58] <rob138> does it have to be my username?
[03:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[03:59] <grimboy> sg47: just did that the other day.
[03:59] <bimberi> rob138: yes
[03:59] <delire> phreekbird: i don't use the US mirrors however so cannot see if the same problem is replicated here.
[03:59] <Nullified> Anyone here running a X700 PRO Graphics Card? As X Throws up errors on mine even after a full wipe and re-insta
[03:59] <sg47_> bur[n] er, what if it's an already formatted disk?
[03:59] <bur[n] er> sg47_: just mount it
[03:59] <bur[n] er> sg47_: it doesn't show up in nautilus?
[03:59] <bimberi> rob138: well it needs to be the name of an account on the computer
[03:59] <rob138> bimberi, does the password need to be the same?
[03:59] <sg47_> where can I learn about the differences between the server install and the desktop install?
[03:59] <bur[n] er> sg47_: sure you have the jumpers right?  it show up in the bios?
[03:59] <bimberi> rob138: nope
[03:59] <NoUse> !tell sg47_ about server
[03:59] <Antipodean> anybody here have any suggestions with enabling an extr2 HD that shows in the disk manager & just wont enable... using the automatic diskmounter script just gives this message : "Ignoring /dev/hdd1 - already in /etc/fstab"
[03:59] <DShepherd> sga7 check ubuntu.com
[04:00] <phreekbird> thanks so much for the feedback ... any advice on an non us mirror near the east coast US ? something that stays up?
[04:00] <Antipodean> anybody here have any suggestions with enabling an extr2 HD that shows in the disk manager & just wont enable... using the automatic diskmounter script just gives this message : "Ignoring /dev/hdd1 - already in /etc/fstab" ???
[04:00] <PrimoTurbo> Does someone have a list of updates on what the final 6.06 will improve on comapred to Breezy. Thanks
[04:00] <bur[n] er> server doesn't have X, desktop has a full GUI
[04:00] <rob138> bimberi, any reason why windows isn't loggin in?
[04:00] <kspath>  /ignore Antipodean
[04:00] <rob138> bimberi, heh or wouldn't
[04:00] <shane_> what is !tell?
[04:00] <DShepherd> sg47_: check ubuntu.com
[04:00] <NoUse> !tell shane_ about ubotu
[04:00] <Warbo> PrimoTurbo: Too many details to list, but I would guess every package has been rebuilt due to core libraries and gcc and things
[04:00] <Antipodean> sorry about putting that q in twice... that was a typo
[04:00] <NoUse> Antipodean edit /etc/fstab and remove the line with the hard drive you are trying to add
[04:01] <bimberi> rob138: no, samba might have logs in /var/log
[04:01] <NoUse> Antipodean then you can re-run that script
[04:01] <shane_> cool, thanks
[04:01] <Antipodean> NoUse: Thanks mate
[04:01] <twysted> WAHOOO UBUNTU ROCKS!
[04:01] <threat> heh
[04:01] <kspath> !tell twysted about CAPS
[04:01] <Saj> hi
[04:01] <Saj> how do i install from te live CD?
[04:02] <jdub> Saj: double click on the install icon on the desktop
[04:02] <threat> so the Ubuntu live CD runs off the CD, can it also install Ubuntu onto a hard disk drive?
[04:02] <_tmx_dt2> hey guys.  i finally mounted my c:\ but i don't know how to get write access to my external HD that i just plugged in.. lil help?
[04:02] <bimberi> Saj: which liveCD? you can't with Breezy
[04:02] <Warbo> Saj: If you are in Dapper live cd there is an icon
[04:02] <bur[n] er> jdub: nice to see yer nick on irc again :)
[04:02] <shane_> threat - yes
[04:02] <jdub> threat: in dapper, yes
[04:02] <threat> shane_, nice
[04:02] <Saj> yeh
[04:02] <threat> dapper?
[04:02] <jdub> bur[n] er: i'm always on irc, but rarely here (too much to handle)
[04:02] <Saj> im using the new one
[04:02] <Saj> just cdrom on desktop
[04:03] <Saj> :(
[04:03] <_tmx_dt2> hey guys.  i finally mounted my c:\ but i don't know how to get write access to my external HD that i just plugged in.. lil help?
[04:03] <shane_> threat - newest release
[04:03] <threat> _tmx_dt2, c:\? you mean /dev/hda1?
[04:03] <jdub> Saj: that's not dapper
[04:03] <_tmx_dt2> sda1.. thats where my primary HD Is
[04:03] <bur[n] er> jdub: of course, dapper's great!
[04:03] <windex> genuine question, amazing: can the bootloader that ships with amd64 editions of ubuntu boot 32 bit windows?
[04:03] <Warbo> saj: Then you are using Breezy (latest stable) not Dapper (latest, but "unstable" until later today)
[04:03] <threat> shane_, oh, so the worty hog isn't the latest?
[04:03] <mianos> re
[04:03] <threat> oh, so a knew Ubuntu is due out soon?
[04:03] <Saj> then how to i install this one guys?
[04:03] <jdub> threat: warty was released in october 2004 :)
[04:03] <threat> jdub, lol
[04:03] <bimberi> threat: well W is further down the alphabet
[04:03] <mianos> little question about suspend in ubuntu
[04:04] <Warbo> windex: Yes, it doesn't do it itself, it just hands over to windows' own bootloader (chainloading)
[04:04] <jdub> threat: there are > 890 people here because 6.06 LTS is about to be released
[04:04] <threat> jdub, well what is the name of the latest one?
[04:04] <OmniDistortion> I didn't even know a new version was coming out, I was just about to download myself breezy!
[04:04] <threat> jdub, oh nice
[04:04] <jdub> threat: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (codename Dapper Drake)
[04:04] <beerboybeerboy> 890 people???????
[04:04] <NoUse> Saj download the install CD
[04:04] <bimberi> jdub: peaked at ~925 a couple of hours ago :)
[04:04] <beerboybeerboy> In Oct 2004, there were about 50 to 100
[04:04] <codergeek42_> 886 to be more precise... ;)
[04:04] <windex> Warbo: i know that, but i couldn't remember if grub was 32/64 bit native or 16bit.
[04:04] <Saj> :'(
[04:04] <threat> jdub, how long? I was just about to download 5.10 :P
[04:04] <jdub> bimberi: slackers!
[04:04] <Saj> :'(:'(:'(
[04:04] <OmniDistortion> 887 people WRONG
[04:04] <jdub> threat: see the topic
[04:04] <shane_> breezy is soooo yesterday
[04:04] <NoUse> Saj just wait 24 hours and get dapper
[04:04] <shane_> er, today still
[04:04] <mianos> the button on logout? does it just echo disk > /sys/power/state, or are there other scripts (dapper)
[04:04] <mianos> ??
[04:04] <Warbo> 16bit? It supports large drives I know
[04:04] <Saj> hmm
[04:04] <threat> jdub, woot
[04:05] <threat> jdub, thank you :)
[04:05] <uncreative> my pop mail got corrupt, but i have a month old backup, i still have all my mail on gmail - but it won't re-download into Mail - does anyone know of some way i can reset some flag on the last month of emails within gmail so that it will redownload into my pop3 Mail?
[04:05] <beerboybeerboy> I take pride in the fact that I started using Ubuntu from the Warty days though I still ask some dumb questions even now
[04:05] <jrsims> Flannel: ok, I tried logging in in safe mode, still no go. Doesn't work for root either.
[04:05] <Saj> yeh
[04:05] <threat> jdub, I will wait then
[04:05] <Saj> might aswell wait:)
[04:05] <Saj> but which will be more stable breezy or dabber?
[04:05] <OmniDistortion> I WONDER
[04:05] <shane_> dapper...
[04:05] <threat> 6.06?  doesn't that mean it will be released on the 6th of june?
[04:05] <Warbo> beerboybeerboy: Like many people switched to unstable Ubuntu to get XGL, I switched to unstable breezy to get kde3.5 and xcompmgr
[04:05] <windex> Saj: they dont make a release until its reasonably stable.. thats why they make us wait.
[04:05] <mianos> ah, there is a gconf key
[04:05] <mianos> yeah
[04:05] <CronoDekar> means '06 june
[04:05] <Saj> hmmm
[04:06] <codergeek42_> threat: IIRC it's year.month  for the release numbers
[04:06] <Saj> kool
[04:06] <shane_> june 06
[04:06] <threat> oh
[04:06] <[arcane] > how would i add a unstable brach to debian ??
[04:06] <[zero] > Hey
[04:06] <threat> ok thank you :)
[04:06] <Saj> ubuntu rock solid
[04:06] <OmniDistortion> Saj It's a completely new version, it's most likely going to be better in every way imaginable especially in stability
[04:06] <beerboybeerboy> I'm not yet ready to use it as my desktop machine now though I dual boot in my laptop
[04:06] <windex> codergeek42_: uh.. you mean month.year? :)
[04:06] <DShepherd> Saj:  getting there
[04:06] <Saj> installed PClinuxOS a 2 days ago, damn
[04:06] <[zero] > im on ubuntu at last :D
[04:06] <CronoDekar> no, year.month
[04:06] <Saj> every thing crashed in that lol
[04:06] <beerboybeerboy> after I changed jobs, I had to work on Windows entirely
[04:06] <threat> how long does it normally take for the Mirrors to get the latest version?
[04:06] <Warbo> [arcane] : look in /etc/apt/sources.list for stable or sarge and replace with unstable or sid
[04:06] <windex> CronoDekar: oh, right. silly 6/6
[04:06] <threat> or should I hammer the official site?
[04:06] <[zero] > Not on the PC I wanted to run it on but oh well
[04:06] <CronoDekar> :D
[04:06] <[arcane] > Warbo: thx
[04:07] <Madpilot> threat, releases they usually get out to the mirrors fairly quickly
[04:07] <Saj> so i basicly downloaded this on the 27th day of the 5 months
[04:07] <threat> or etch :)
[04:07] <Saj> lol:D
[04:07] <shane_> PCLinuxOS is ok - it's the community support for Ubuntu that won me over
[04:07] <pally> it feels like Xmas eve
[04:07] <Saj> yeh
[04:07] <OmniDistortion> When I dual boot for some reason windows fucks with the boot sector and the entire drive dies
[04:07] <mister_roboto> anyone try mepis?
[04:07] <Flannel> pally: nah, it feels like the night before Win95 was released ;)
[04:07] <pally> lol
[04:07] <pally> anyone kiss me when dapper is released?
[04:07] <Warbo> OmniDistortion: Always install Linux second
[04:07] <Saj> hahahaha
[04:07] <Saj> lol
[04:07] <bkh> Flannel: You mean like 'The Omen'?
[04:07] <Saj> :D
[04:07] <threat> Flannel, except we won't be disapointed :)
[04:07] <shane_> mepis seemed to have fizzled lately
[04:07] <CronoDekar> haha
[04:07] <Nullified> Guys, I dont think i've set a root password yet
[04:08] <mister_roboto> shane: fizzled how?
[04:08] <Flannel> !tell Nullified about root
[04:08] <shane_> sure you have
[04:08] <mianos> glxgear
[04:08] <Madpilot> Nullified, there isn't one
[04:08] <mianos> s
[04:08] <tritium> Nullified: you don't need to
[04:08] <Flannel> Nullified: you havent, and that's ok ;)
[04:08] <threat> Nullified, ubuntu doesnt have a root as such
[04:08] <earthen_> anyone know how to get blutooth stuff working?
[04:08] <Warbo> Nullified: Neither have I. Ubuntu doesn't use it
[04:08] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Nullified about sudo
[04:08] <OmniDistortion> Warbo: Oh I did believe me, but I didn't use windows until much later. It was installed first.
[04:08] <Saj> is dabber going to have KDE on it?
[04:08] <beerboybeerboy> Nullified, what was the password that you set when you installed Ubuntu?
[04:08] <mianos> why does glxgears in ubuntu doesn't display frames?
[04:08] <Flannel> !tell earthen_ about bluetooth
[04:08] <OmniDistortion> When I used it that's when it happened
[04:08] <shane_> they were growing fast, but Ubuntu has simply skyrocketed in outperforming all other distro installations
[04:08] <Nullified> Ok, Whats the command to start Gnome, is it /etc/init.d/gdm start ?
[04:08] <Antipodean> NoUse: bugger - that still didn't work...
[04:09] <Antipodean> argh
[04:09] <OmniDistortion> Hello nhaines (namedropping)
[04:09] <Warbo> OmniDistortion: The only way I could think of messing with MBR would be to do a "restore" or something in windows (which would be quite obviously the culprit)
[04:09] <Flannel> !tell mianos about glxgears
[04:09] <mister_roboto> shane: I simply could NOT get ubuntu to boot on an old P2-300 so I tried mepis for fun (never saw it before). so far it's running great and is using some dapper repositories too.
[04:09] <NoUse> Antipodean what are you trying to do?
[04:09] <nhaines> Haha, hiya, Omni.  :)
[04:09] <Antipodean> mount & format a HD
[04:09] <earthen_> Flannel, I have the bluetooth device working and it can see my mouse but the mouse will not move the pointer
[04:09] <shane_> Mr_roboto - i ran mepis for a while and out of the box it was great, but just seemed a bit cluttered
[04:09] <NoUse> Antipodean well you can't format a HD while its mounted
[04:09] <OmniDistortion> Warbo: I really just don't want to mess with it anymore. I'm not going to dualboot with XP unless I know for sure nothing like that would happen again
[04:10] <NoUse> Antipodean so why don't you just format it
[04:10] <mianos> is ubotu a bot?
[04:10] <Antipodean> with the disk manager? done that about 3 times now
[04:10] <rixxon> what means 'software 3.0'? it is mentioned on the fridge
[04:10] <nhaines> I highly recommend backing up your MBR first.  WinXP had managed to screw mine up, and WinXP recovery console couldn't fix it.  Only a Knoppix CD and a friend who's insane enough to be able to hack the NTFS header by hand could do it.
[04:10] <shane_> and you're right about th eP2 300 support - tried ubuntu on something similar the other day and it didn't work
[04:10] <Flannel> mianos: yes
[04:10] <mister_roboto> !ubotu
[04:10] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[04:10] <mianos> thx
[04:10] <Antipodean> NoUse: with the disk manager? done that about 3 times now
[04:10] <Warbo> Does anyone know of some simple sound editor like Audacity, but not Audacity (I can't get my head around it). I am forced to use gnoise, but I don't like how that writes the changes directly to the file
[04:10] <Saj> ubotu
[04:10] <Saj> hi ubotu
[04:10] <Saj> lol
[04:10] <Saj> :(
[04:11] <mister_roboto> Saj: ask it things by using an exclamation before the search term
[04:11] <Flannel> rixxon: it's a buzzword, who cares.
[04:11] <OmniDistortion> !ubotu are you white
[04:11] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, OmniDistortion
[04:11] <phreekbird> question about dapper ... are the us repositorys going to work for that? or is it going to be like it is with breezy?
[04:11] <mister_roboto> lol
[04:11] <OmniDistortion> I don't think it worked
[04:11] <rixxon> Flannel: just wondering. is it like web 2.0 but for software? :S
[04:11] <Flannel> rixxon: right, or.. something like that
[04:12] <jdub> rixxon: it's a joke about that, yes
[04:12] <NobodHere> hey all!  My ubuntu server box just started acting up -big- time about 4 hours ago.  It is acting like DNS is broken, but it's not.  Apache and MySQL are fine; postfix is taking forever to respond to SMTP connections, same with cyrus and sshd.  Bind(named) is fine.
[04:12] <rixxon> Flannel: whatever that would mean, since web 2.0 means websites like software :p
[04:12] <rixxon> (kinda)
[04:12] <Warbo> rixxon: It doesn't really mean anything (anyway, Ubuntu is almost at 6!)
[04:12] <WimS> i can ask dapper questions here right?
[04:12] <jdub> absolutely
[04:12] <_tmx_dt2> noob question: can winrar or winace decompress .tar.gz files?
[04:12] <Saj> thnx
[04:12] <Saj> .
[04:12] <Saj> !hi
[04:12] <ubotu> hmm... hi is Hello, saj!
[04:12] <Saj> !ubotu
[04:12] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[04:13] <Saj> lol
[04:13] <Saj> wow
[04:13] <Saj> attitude
[04:13] <_tmx_dt2> noob question: can winrar or winace decompress .tar.gz files? it can right?
[04:13] <FlyingSquirrel32> I'm looking for a scheduling sort of program that will allow my to plan and count hours and jobs done. Any suggestions?
[04:13] <lukaswayne9> _tmx_dt2: i think winzip can
[04:13] <rixxon> _tmx_dt2: correct on winrar anyway
[04:13] <Saj> yeh
[04:13] <edvinasMD5> _tmx_dt2, yes
[04:13] <Saj> winrar definatly can
[04:13] <bkh> tar.gz is pretty commonly usable in windows compression programs
[04:13] <threat> so, is 'Dapper Drake' Pig related?
[04:13] <_tmx_dt2> thx so much i'm compressing all these files on my hd to save i'm uploadin them on my webspace.  thx guys
[04:14] <tritium> threat: no, duck
[04:14] <Warbo> threat: Drake is a duck
[04:14] <exhale> lmao pig
[04:14] <bkh> A well dressed duck
[04:14] <threat> tritium, yes I relised that, but I thought Ubuntu had a thing with pigs
[04:14] <Warbo> threat: At least it's dapper, and not hoary
[04:14] <cached> badger?
[04:14] <phreekbird> !ubotu
[04:14] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[04:14] <cached> badger != pig
[04:14] <lukaswayne9> !ubotu
[04:14] <bkh> Warty Warthog was one of the releases
[04:14] <tritium> threat: nope
[04:14] <Warbo> badger > pig
[04:14] <NobodHere> anyone see my message?
[04:15] <cached> 1 item does not create a pattern
[04:15] <jdub> 900!
[04:15] <lukaswayne9> eft > drake :)
[04:15] <jdub> :-)
[04:15] <Efnian> lol
[04:15] <cached> nobodhere: only the first half
[04:15] <nhaines> Sorry, NobodHere, it's not readble to us.
[04:15] <bkh> NobodHere: No
[04:15] <threat> Who the hell comes up with these names?
[04:15] <OmniD> Shh
[04:15] <OmniD> everyone be quiet
[04:15] <lukaswayne9> threat: sadbfl
[04:15] <NobodHere> NobodHere: hey all!  My ubuntu server box just started acting up -big- time about 4 hours ago.  It is acting like DNS is broken, but it's not.  Apache and MySQL are fine; postfix is taking forever to respond to SMTP connections, same with cyrus and sshd.  Bind(named) is fine.
[04:15] <Warbo> threat: infinite monkeys with typewriters
[04:15] <WimS> ok, i dist-upgraded to dapper from breezy and everything seemed like it worked, except my WiFi. It's broadcom. It used to work in breezy but it doesn't now. I couldn't get the new broadcom built in driver to work, so i rmmod it, but when i tried to install ndiswrapper and do it the way i did in breezy, but my network card doesn't wshow up in the network config dialog box, and not under ifconfig either
[04:15] <threat> NobodHere, didn't you just say that?
[04:15] <cached> NECESITO EL DAPPER
[04:16] <NobodHere> NobodHere: anyone see my message?
[04:16] <NobodHere> cached: nobodhere: only the first half
[04:16] <NobodHere> [10:15pm]  nhaines: Sorry, NobodHere, it's not readble to us.
[04:16] <NobodHere> [10:15pm]  bkh: NobodHere: No
[04:16] <NobodHere> [10:15pm] 
[04:16] <lukaswayne9> cached: Tu hablas espanol?
[04:16] <threat> Warbo, you do relise that one monkey with infinite time is the same thing?
[04:16] <Ophiocus> !es
[04:16] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:16] <cached> lukaswayne: does taking spanish 1 count? :P
[04:16] <OmniD> NobodHere: The solution is Dabber Drake
[04:16] <Warbo> threat: No, because he cannot use ideas that he would never think of.
[04:16] <OmniD> *Dapper
[04:16] <lukaswayne9> cached: that's what i'm taking :)
[04:16] <cached> i only know present and progressive tense
[04:16] <threat> Warbo, infinite monkey's would cause massive gravititaional shifts
[04:16] <lukaswayne9> cached: i just know present... i've got finals next week
[04:17] <WimS> so does anybody know how i get the built in broadcom driver to work ?
[04:17] <Antipodean> sorry - can anybody help - I have a HD, showing in the diskmanager that STILL shows as NTFS despite multiple formating  done with the diskmanager & which I still can't seem to get mounted? Suggestions anybody?
[04:17] <Efnian> i dread what an infinite monkey'd be like
[04:17] <NobodHere> I really fail to see how upgrading to the next version will solve this problem.  That's kind of the shotgun approach.
[04:17] <cached> buena suerte
[04:17] <OmniD> I know
[04:17] <mcmahons> dapper out yet?
[04:17] <DShepherd> no
[04:17] <OmniD> But we can always hope!!!
[04:17] <Warbo> threat: The centre ones would compress to a singularity, but there would always be more to replace them
[04:17] <cached> mcmahons: /topic
[04:17] <EmuMatte> WimS -- is it the NIC that isn't recognized, or WPA?
[04:17] <kspath>  mcmahons /topic
[04:17] <mister_roboto> WimS: I had a similar problem with my TrueMobile 1150 wifi after dist-upgrade. lost the wifi. oddly, it worked fine with the live cd so i ended up reinstalling from scratch and that fixed it. i found that to be very disappointing
[04:17] <cached> kspath: beat you to it :P
[04:17] <WimS> EmuMatte NIC
[04:17] <OmniD> Also eat more meat so you have lots of protein in your diet so you can become big and strong that might help too
[04:17] <kspath> cached: I am old and slow
[04:17] <lukaswayne9> i hope it's released before 3:30 PM EST tomorrow
[04:17] <cached> kspath: i'm not as old as you
[04:18] <cached> kspath: wait, that proves your point
[04:18] <Antipodean> sorry - can anybody help - I have a HD, showing in the diskmanager that STILL shows as NTFS despite multiple formating  done with the diskmanager & which I still can't seem to get mounted? Suggestions anybody?
[04:18] <Warbo> Anyone know simple sound editors other than gnoise and audacity (Universe has too much stuff in to test it all)
[04:18] <NobodHere> guys, I have email down.  This is a big problem.  Nobody's home in #ubuntu-server, I could really use some help.  If there's a better place to ask, please point me in the right direction.
[04:18] <lukaswayne9> Warbo: I use audacity... That's pretty much it for me
[04:19] <shane_> Warbo - give audacity another try
[04:19] <phreekbird> !info sources
[04:19] <EmuMatte> NobodHere - have you tried repairing your windows installation?
[04:19] <Warbo> lukaswayne9: I can't seem to do anything in it other than crazy effects, all I want is to cut and paste and fade
[04:19] <Saj> hey, will dabber have the ability to start from the cd?
[04:19] <lukaswayne9> Warbo there's a fade plugin for audacity.. just select an area, and use the plugin
[04:19] <NobodHere> EmuMatte: What?
[04:19] <shane_> cut, paste and fade are the only things I can do in Audacity
[04:19] <nhaines> Saj, what do you mean?
[04:20] <Zambezi> Saj: You probably talking about a Live-CD?
[04:20] <Saj> yeh
[04:20] <lukaswayne9> Warbo: for cut/paste, just make sure playback is stopped.. and then just zoom out, select and area, and then edit..cut..paste etc
[04:20] <Saj> soz...
[04:20] <eugman> Can someone tell me what sudo apt-get clean does? Please refrain from giving the most obvious and simple answer which can be gleaned just by looking at it.
[04:20] <Antipodean> *shrugs*
[04:20] <earthen_> how do I rescan for my usb devices,
[04:20] <tritium> eugman: deletes .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:20] <Warbo> lukaswayne9: Whenever I try to select an area I end up changing it's volume. I suppose I'll have ANOTHER go
[04:20] <eugman> Ah, ok thanks.
[04:20] <kspath> earthen_: lsusb
[04:21] <shane_> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperrc
[04:21] <Saj> so is live cd gonna have install thing then?
[04:21] <shane_> clean clears out  the  local  repository  of  retrieved  package
[04:21] <shane_>               files.
[04:21] <Zambezi> Saj: So if you want to try, use the Live-CD.
[04:21] <Flannel> Saj: yes, espresso is on the liveCD.
[04:21] <Antipodean> all i wanna do is use my hard disk... *bashes head against wall*
[04:21] <Warbo> Hmmm. Error initialising audio layer when I start Audacity
[04:21] <kspath> earthen_: trying to force recognition of a device ? was it powered off?
[04:21] <bimberi> Saj: yes the dapper (6.06 LTS) one will
[04:21] <earthen_> kspath, no that lists my connected devices, I want to rescan for connected devices I removed a device that works but when i plug it back in I have ti reboot to get it to work again
[04:21] <Zambezi> Saj: Ye. In the memory. Not the Harddrive.
[04:21] <Saj> :(
[04:22] <Saj> ok il dl install cd instead then:)
[04:22] <Antipodean> *bleeding profusely from head injury*
[04:22] <Ophiocus> i ll be afk, wish you all a happy dapper upgrade, seeyas!!
[04:22] <earthen_> kspath, yes how do I do that
[04:22] <Flannel> Zambezi: the Dapper LiveCD can install.
[04:22] <Zambezi> Saj: But a Live-CD is just a temporary thing.
[04:22] <Flannel> Zambezi: the Dapper LiveCD can install.
[04:22] <NobodHere> well, thanks for the smart-ass replies to a serious problem, guys.  Glad to see the ubuntu "community" is knowledgeable and interested in helping others.
[04:22] <Warbo> Saj: I would get a breezy install disc because I have heard bad things about installing with dapper CDs (should be fixed now though, but you never know)
[04:22] <shane_> can the live cd install without booting into ubuntu/
[04:22] <Zambezi> Flannel: I just tried the Breezy.
[04:23] <Flannel> shane_: no.
[04:23] <bur[n] er> shane_: from windows?  no
[04:23] <KarlsBerg> Hello!
[04:23] <Antipodean> sorry - can anybody help - I have a HD, showing in the diskmanager that STILL shows as NTFS despite multiple formating  done with the diskmanager & which I still can't seem to get mounted? Suggestions anybody?
[04:23] <KarlsBerg> help we !
[04:23] <KarlsBerg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1074863#post1074863
[04:23] <shane_> no, without booting into the live CD
[04:23] <Saj> warbo: hmmm, so will breezy be updatable to dapper via the synaptic thing?
[04:23] <|Sivik|> hi all
[04:23] <Flannel> shane_: no, the liveCD has to do it's liveCD thing.
[04:23] <Flannel> Saj: yes
[04:23] <EmuMatte> saj - yes
[04:23] <bur[n] er> Antipodean: run gparted not through the installer, make sure to hit apply
[04:23] <earthen_> kspath, how do I do a force recognition
[04:23] <jdub> Saj: there will be a very sexy upgrade process
[04:23] <Saj> oh, thats kool then, il just DL breezt now:D
[04:23] <EmuMatte> jdub -- if sexy mean "rapish"
[04:24] <Saj> :P i cant wait lol
[04:24] <mcmahons> Saj: sudo update-manager -d
[04:24] <Antipodean> bur[n] er: thanks man
[04:24] <mcmahons> Saj: why not wait for dapper, you'll save yourself hours
[04:24] <bur[n] er> Saj: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[04:24] <Warbo> Saj: Yes, I am in dapper that way
[04:24] <jdub> Saj: don't download breezy, download the dapper release candidate
[04:24] <tritium> EmuMatte: not even close
[04:24] <KarlsBerg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1074863#post1074863
[04:24] <bur[n] er> !releasecandidate
[04:24] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bur[n] er
[04:24] <bur[n] er> aww... worth a shot ;)
[04:24] <OmniD> jdub: but isn't the official release coming out soon?
[04:24] <Zambezi> jdub: Or hold for half a day and download Dapper final release.
[04:24] <EmuMatte> !suse
[04:25] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, EmuMatte
[04:25] <Warbo> I had a cat called mittens
[04:25] <bur[n] er> OmniD: trivial to upgrade
[04:25] <mcmahons> jdub: are you jefff waugh?
[04:25] <Saj> hmmm
[04:25] <Saj> bah, imight aswsell go dapper then,
[04:25] <T-CAN> so no one has any idea when dapper is going to be released?
[04:25] <Saj> cuz ur right guys, itl take hours:( + the system will be jam acked with breezy users upgrading lol
[04:25] <Flannel> T-CAN: sometime on june 1.
[04:25] <tritium> T-CAN: within 24 hrs
[04:25] <mcmahons> T-CAN: today
[04:25] <Warbo> T-CAN: today
[04:25] <Efnian> T-CAN, today
[04:25] <shane_> t-can - tomorrow for me
[04:25] <Zambezi> OmniD: I should come out 2006-06-01 during the day London-time.
[04:25] <lukaswayne9> Saj pretty much.. just wait for the torrents to be released tomorrow
[04:25] <eugman> So why the delay?
[04:25] <Saj> kk
[04:25] <jdub> mcmahons: yeah
[04:25] <cge> eugman: there is no delay
[04:25] <Warbo> T-CAN: What time is it for you now?
[04:25] <Efnian> eugman, there's no delay
[04:25] <mcmahons> jdub: cool :)
[04:25] <jdub> mcmahons: though usually i only use two Fs
[04:25] <Saj> where will they be available? via the ubuntu website?
[04:26] <T-CAN> 10:25pm
[04:26] <AngryElf> guys, for some reason xine can't see /dev/dvd......it keeps saying "Could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss" -- not an encryption error (besides this is an unencrypted disc) any ideas?
[04:26] <Flannel> Saj: and the mirrors, and bittorrent.
[04:26] <bur[n] er> Saj: naturally
[04:26] <lukaswayne9> Saj yes
[04:26] <Warbo> T-CAN: probably tomorrow then
[04:26] <Zambezi> Saj: Yes. Check www.ubuntu.com
[04:26] <eugman> Efinian, Why is it being released later than greenwich time?
[04:26] <T-CAN> ya, thats what I was thinkin
[04:26] <Saj> kk
[04:26] <EmuMatte> Anyone have Ubuntu Dapper Drake WAREZ?! I NEED THE FINALZ!
[04:26] <T-CAN> oh well, it will be worth the wait
[04:26] <bkh> AngryElf: check the permissions on /dev/dvd
[04:26] <Efnian> eugman, it will be released 1.6.. What's wrong?
[04:26] <Zambezi> T-CAN: Where are you from if the time is 10.30?
[04:26] <T-CAN> EST
[04:26] <Warbo> T-CAN: No point delaying for 6 weeks and getting picky on the exact hour
[04:26] <T-CAN> Maine, USA
[04:26] <lukaswayne9> Zambezi: east coast
[04:26] <shane_> EST rocks!
[04:27] <mcmahons> jdub: haha fair enough. so when's dapper ccoming out ;)
[04:27] <bur[n] er> EmuMatte: workin on gettig hte 0-day of dapper here ;)
[04:27] <EmuMatte> AST is BETTAR!
[04:27] <lukaswayne9> shane_: amen!
[04:27] <T-CAN> im with ya Warbo
[04:27] <EmuMatte> bur[n] er -- kekeke :)
[04:27] <Viaken> Well awesome. The topic has all I need to know. :)
[04:27] <Warbo> T-CAN: figuratively you mean, as I am at 3:30am here :)
[04:27] <KarlsBerg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1074863#post1074863 Help we with a simple reply please!
[04:27] <eugman> Efinian, Nothing.  I've already upgraded. I was just under the impression it be released already and was wondering if there was a reason for having to do it a bit later in the day?
[04:27] <Healot> Warez doesn't exist in Linux-land
[04:27] <T-CAN> hahaha, exactly
[04:27] <EmuMatte> Healot -- ...
[04:27] <mumanddad> what package do i need to install to compile sources?
[04:27] <tritium> warez are also offtopic
[04:28] <EmuMatte> mumanddad -- headers / gcc
[04:28] <bimberi> mumanddad: build-essential
[04:28] <nhaines> eugman, it takes time to build 4 releases times three projects.
[04:28] <Warbo> Will there be a big upgrade at the release or not, as it is all stabilised now?
[04:28] <tritium> mumanddad: you'll want to start with build-esential
[04:28] <mumanddad> thanks
[04:28] <mumanddad> thats the one :-)
[04:28] <Warbo> I mean from current Dapper
[04:28] <lukaswayne9> Is there a server upgrade guide available?
[04:28] <Antipodean> so folks, whats the better filesystem to use ext2, or ext3?
[04:28] <jdub> Warbo: dude, we're like, hours away
[04:29] <jdub> Antipodean: ext3
[04:29] <Antipodean> jdub: thnx
[04:29] <Warbo> Antipodean: ext3, it is the same as ext2 so it is compatible (but has a journal)
[04:29] <mcmahons> ext3
[04:29] <Warbo> jdub: British summer time (take that standardised time!)
[04:29] <KarlsBerg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1074863#post1074863 Help we with a simple reply please!
[04:30] <brandon_> has anybody got azureus working?
[04:30] <T-CAN> ubotu, tell T-CAN about CLI
[04:30] <Efnian> brandon_, yes
[04:30] <OmniD> what will happen when it's released
[04:30] <lukaswayne9> i think i'll upgrade my server before the rush :)
[04:30] <tritium> OmniD: people will rush to download it
[04:30] <OmniD> Aw ubuntu come back
[04:30] <nhaines> warbo: it's pretty much all stable.
[04:30] <bimberi> we all get a pony
[04:30] <brandon_> Efnian, was there some special process involved with installing it?
[04:30] <paradon> OmniD: The internet will break.
[04:31] <OmniD> I won't be rushing to download it if I don't know if it's released
[04:31] <Warbo> Does anyone know why epiphany would crash every time it tries to load? I've purged and reinstalled and stuff (I almost built from source, but couldn't be bothered to tell it that I have the dependencies)
[04:31] <capgadget> Movie downloads will slow 3% when Dapper is released.
[04:31] <Warbo> nhaines: thx
[04:31] <Efnian> brandon_, I'd imo recommend not to use the repos
[04:31] <neoshin> i want a pony
[04:31] <brandon_> Efnian, the one in the repos doesn't work, the one from the website doesn't work
[04:32] <Warbo> neoshin: apt-get install pony
[04:32] <bur[n] er> anyone know what to use in gconf-editor under the metacity global keybindings to get a binding on Page Up and Page Down?
[04:32] <guano> ./configure pony
[04:32] <jdub> Warbo: sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/compreg.dat
[04:32] <Efnian> brandon_, do you have java installed?
[04:32] <Skip> When I installed dapper 3d acceleration stopped. Using fglrx. Any ideas why?
[04:32] <FoX_44470> When dapper is released ?
[04:32] <Efnian> FoX_44470, today.
[04:32] <siccness> Within 24 hours
[04:32] <brandon_> Efnian, it is installed, yes
[04:32] <|Sivik|> how anyone had any issues with a pci-e card and the x-session going back to the login screen?
[04:32] <cge> FoX_44470: sometime in the next 22 hours or so.
[04:33] <lukaswayne9> Upgrading my server to dapper now :)
[04:33] <|Sivik|> lukaswayne9, thats cool
[04:33] <chapium> i noticed apt-get update slowed down a bit
[04:33] <threat> is it released yet?
[04:33] <threat> :P
[04:33] <henriquemaia> Just an advice: would be these daily builds good enough? I have to install Dapper on a friend's computer for her to complete a work for school.
[04:33] <chapium> plus ubuntu.com changed their front page
[04:34] <bur[n] er> henriquemaia: yes
[04:34] <Efnian> brandon_, the one on the website should work by just uncompressing it somewhere within your home directory and running it.
[04:34] <henriquemaia> I don't mind of dist-upgrading later.
[04:34] <nhaines> jdub, is there any way to observe the release process?  Such as the progress of the CD images being built?  Or whatever else they're doing right now?
[04:34] <FoX_44470> yes, because the download page is the same
[04:34] <brandon_> Efnian, so it's just a java issue then?
[04:34] <Efnian> brandon_, how exactly it doesn't work?
[04:34] <bkh> Yeah, there are now 5 people dancing instead of 3...
[04:34] <henriquemaia> Thanks bur[n] er.
[04:34] <guano> henriquemaia skip the daily builds.. install 5.10 and upgrade it, it will install fresh dapper
[04:34] <Viaken> I wish I could dist-upgrade. Dialup isn't dist-upgrade friendly.
[04:34] <jdub> nhaines: not really (mostly because nothing much is happening right now)
[04:34] <henriquemaia> I have done that with... no luck
[04:34] <henriquemaia> The system broke.
[04:35] <henriquemaia> hehe.
[04:35] <cge> henriquemaia: I would use the dailies instead.
[04:35] <cge> henriquemaia: If you can get them... The servers seem rather slow right now.
[04:35] <brandon_> Efnian, it starts and then a popup message thatw e all know and love happens and won't go away, but the application window isn't there, and the tray icon isn't there
[04:35] <henriquemaia> the breezy-dapper dist-upgrade didn't go well.
[04:35] <guano> i just dist-upgraded a ppc and i'm running true dapper... it's pretty :)
[04:35] <nhaines> jdub: aww, too bad.  I don't want to pester for ETA, but waiting is easier if you can watch things.  :)
[04:35] <cluehammer> phh real men dist-upgrade over null modem cables
[04:35] <Efnian> brandon_, it think the website one works best with sun's java. do you have it configured?
[04:35] <nhaines> henriquemaia, you shouldn't dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper.
[04:35] <chapium> the progression of ubuntu is like evolution
[04:36] <chapium> first people are naked
[04:36] <chapium> then they where shirts
[04:36] <bkh> Would that be Breezer Drake or Dapper Badger?
[04:36] <chapium> now they wear long sleeves
[04:36] <Viaken> I dist-upgrades from breezy to dapper beta. >.>
[04:36] <henriquemaia> ist this the link for the daylies? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[04:36] <Warbo> Viaken: It would be good to only have security-updates (but still have access to repos) for dialup users
[04:36] <Viaken> upgraded*
[04:36] <chapium> pretty soon they will be wearing eskimo hats
[04:36] <cluehammer> lol
[04:36] <Viaken> Warbo: It's a laptop with wireless, so it's not a huge issue. :)
[04:36] <brandon_> Efnian, well obviously it's not properly configured, but i grabbed it from sun's site and replaced the one from the repos by renaming the newer one to the same name as the old version's directory
[04:36] <slavik> yo!
[04:36] <KarlsBerg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1074863#post1074863 Help we with a simple reply please!
[04:36] <ray__> hello, i'm still having trouble getting svideo out to work with my nvidia card. i used the following url: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-g.html
[04:37] <FoX_44470> Where are you read that the Dapper come 1st June, i have just read june ! The day is not write ! Sorry for english, i'm french
[04:37] <nhaines> FoX_44470, it has been discussed in many announcements made by Cannonical and Ubuntu.
[04:37] <lukaswayne9> FoX_44470: Bonjour :)
[04:37] <|Sivik|> how anyone had any issues with a pci-e card and the x-session going back to the login screen?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:37] <Flannel> FoX_44470: it will be released june 1.
[04:37] <ray__> would someone be willing to look at my xorg.conf to see if i've done it right?
[04:37] <chapium> ray__: pastebin it and someone might volunteer
[04:37] <slavik> ray__: pastebin it and hope
[04:38] <FoX_44470> lukaswayne9 > Au, je suis pas tout seul !
[04:38] <ray__> would you give me the url to pastebin?
[04:38] <chapium> !info pastebin
[04:38] <Warbo> "Epiphany has quit unexpectedly" every time I load it :(
[04:38] <slavik> !pastebin
[04:38] <beerboybeerboy> I have a PII-300 with 192 MB RAM. Do you think it'll be worthwhile to install GUI and VNC Server on that machine?
[04:38] <ray__> !info pastebin
[04:38] <|Sivik|> beerboybeerboy, no
[04:38] <chapium> pastebin is no longer in the topic >:-[
[04:38] <lukaswayne9> FoX_44470: My French 1 class didn't take me that far!  I can say "J'adore la glace", though! ;-)
[04:38] <ray__> !pastebin
[04:38] <Efnian> brandon_, try running ' update-alternatives --config java '
[04:38] <T-CAN> if i want to change permissions of a whole partition could i do    sudo chmod 755 /dev/media/windows  ?
[04:38] <Warbo> |Sivik|: I don't see why it would be your graphics card unless you use xgl
[04:38] <Efnian> Perpetual Penguin
[04:39] <henriquemaia> whats the link for the current daily builds?
[04:39] <SurfnKid> Got the ATI thing inttstalled, but now i have a CHOPPY Rendering Mode
[04:39] <|Sivik|> Warbo: then what else could it be
[04:39] <slavik> !tell ray__ about pastebin
[04:39] <chapium> T-CAN: is that ntfs?
[04:39] <Warbo> |Sivik|: No idea
[04:39] <T-CAN> vfat
[04:39] <SurfnKid> Renders for 3 seconds chops 1 renders 3 chops 1 non stop
[04:39] <|Sivik|> Warbo, do you understand what i'm trying to say
[04:39] <nhaines> T-CAN, vfat doesn't support permissions other than read-only.
[04:39] <ray__> !tell ray__ about pastebin
[04:39] <ray__> hmmm
[04:39] <SurfnKid> could it be my Centrino chip lacking cpu power
[04:39] <intelikey> Q.  is there a way to get mount/fstab to use sf-specific settings on different types of removable media ?
[04:39] <intelikey> ray__ pastebin it and we'll have a look.
[04:39] <T-CAN> well that sucks
[04:39] <|Sivik|> Warbo, it begins by closing ff or terminal once or twice and then if i'm still using the computer, it goes back to the login screen, if i'm not using the computer, it just freezes completely and i have to restart
[04:39] <ray__> commands are not workng
[04:40] <intelikey> s/sf-specific/fs-specific/
[04:40] <mking> ray__ use google
[04:40] <FoX_44470> lukaswayne9> me, my english is very bad, but I love ice-cream
[04:40] <FoX_44470> ;)
[04:40] <lukaswayne9> FoX_44470: Ah, good! :)
[04:40] <Warbo> |Sivik|: No idea sorry, just don't think it is a problem with pci-e
[04:40] <lukaswayne9> FoX_44470: english is tough language
[04:40] <|Sivik|> Warbo: ok
[04:40] <brandon_> Efnian, that gives me a list of 4 possibilities
[04:40] <slavik> ray__: in terminal "cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/Desktop/xorg.conf"
[04:40] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[04:40] <|Sivik|> Warbo: i have been trying to figure this out for over a week
[04:41] <Efnian> brandon_, there should be  /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[04:41] <Warbo> |Sivik|: I am just thinking that problems with pci-e would probably not start GDM at all
[04:41] <henriquemaia> The live CD can be installed?
[04:41] <brandon_> Efnian, i have selected that option, so i'll give azureus a shot again
[04:41] <slavik> henriquemaia: yes
[04:42] <intelikey> ooooh temp desync from server....
[04:42] <henriquemaia> Thanks, slavik
 yes, very difficult for me, but it's life !
[04:42] <intelikey> hehhe i was wondering why no one was talking.... then it resynced.
[04:42] <|Sivik|> Warbo: k
[04:43] <Booo> sorry just signed in ..so is Ubuntu 6.06 out yet?
[04:43] <ray__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14940
[04:43] <nhaines> booo: no.
[04:43] <intelikey> k
[04:43] <slavik> Booo: not yet
[04:43] <lukaswayne9> Boo /topic
[04:43] <bkh> Booo: The duck is still getting dressed.
[04:43] <Booo> slavik: any idea when?
[04:43] <OmniD> UTC? What time is it UTC
[04:43] <hassan> wee, soooo excited.  tick tock
[04:43] <ray__> i'm just trying to get the TV to show exactly what's on my LCD at the moment
[04:43] <lukaswayne9> Oh great!  Just what I always wanted!  A new version of eject!
[04:43] <Warbo> Anyone tried Gnash?
[04:43] <slavik> soon?
[04:43] <bimberi> Booo: /topic !!
[04:44] <davidmccabe> http://lists.debian.org/cdwrite/2004/10/msg00052.html
[04:44] <davidmccabe> though that patch is from 2004, I'm still having that problem in Breezy.
[04:44] <brandon_> Efnian, that seems to have worked, except that i can't get that damned message to go away
[04:44] <nhaines> It is 03:44 UTC
[04:44] <Booo> bimberi: thanks
[04:44] <bimberi> Booo: np :)
[04:44] <FoX_44470> No, 2h44 UTC
[04:44] <jaime> hello everybody
[04:44] <nhaines> Hi, jai  :)
[04:45] <intelikey> ray__ mmmm no v4l in the modules ?
[04:45] <Booo> i feel like a kid on the night before x-mas :)
[04:45] <ubuntu> can some one help m einstall ubuntu?
[04:45] <jaime> how you doing
[04:45] <ubuntu> good
[04:45] <nhaines> I mean jaime, sorry.  :)
[04:45] <ray__> intelikey, v4l?
[04:45] <nhaines> What is the problem, ubuntu?
[04:45] <jaime> its ok
[04:45] <chapium> Hmm, I screwed up my x-session permissions or something.  How do I update ubuntu's time by the terminal?
[04:45] <intelikey> vidio for linux
[04:45] <ubuntu> can u install ubuntu onto harddrive from a live cd?
[04:45] <Warbo> ubuntu: Have you tried yet? If you have a problem what is it?
[04:45] <Efnian> brandon_, i'm not sure what message you mean, but open the  Help ->  About, and try to close the message again, while the about box open.
[04:45] <Warbo> Ubuntu: From Dapper you can, not Breezy (latest stable)
[04:45] <ubuntu> i just want to know how i install from a live cd?
[04:46] <nhaines> ubuntu, yes, with Ubuntu 6.06 you can do so.
[04:46] <ubuntu> how?
[04:46] <Bilford> Is anyone planning on not upgrading to Dapper?
[04:46] <bimberi> ubuntu: the 6.06 LTS LiveCD has an Install icon on the desktop
[04:46] <nhaines> ubuntu, there will be an "install" icon on the desktop of the Desktop CD (live CD)
[04:46] <intelikey> Bilford i
[04:46] <your_mom> whats the sudo apt to install xorg. it seems i uninstalled, and messed up my whole system
[04:46] <brandon_> Efnian, i started using the newest version from the site, and it works. thanks!
[04:46] <Warbo> ubuntu: If you see a HD install icon in the CD then you can. If not then you have the "old" version
[04:46] <Bilford> intelikey, why not
[04:46] <intelikey> already there
[04:46] <nhaines> Bilford, I've been running dapper for three months with no problems.
[04:46] <ubuntu> ok cool
[04:46] <brandon_> Efnian, as a matter of fact, this should be in the wiki
[04:46] <Efnian> brandon_, what?
[04:46] <ray__> intelikey, what is v4l? i've never heard of that
[04:47] <lukaswayne9> nhaines: same here, i've been running it pretty since the repos were available.. i was dapper tried and true, even through all the X breakages
[04:47] <Bilford> nhaines, is that when the first release was?
[04:47] <ubuntu> and i heard u can do a dual boot, like windows and ubuntu? can hard drive install ubuntu and not erase windows?
[04:47] <brandon_> Efnian, how to get azureus to work, because a lot of people are having java related trouble with it
[04:47] <nictuku> ubuntu, indeed you can
[04:47] <chapium> ubuntu: if the partitions are already setup you probably can
[04:47] <pike__> ubuntu: yes the installer can resize your windows partition and create a new one for ubuntu
[04:47] <ubuntu> how do i do that?
[04:47] <ubuntu> k
[04:47] <chapium> pike__: oooo
[04:47] <lukaswayne9> Does the Ubuntu Desktop CD resize NTFS?
[04:47] <Warbo> ubuntu: Ubuntu will see windows and ask if you want to shrink it to make room for Ubuntu (you need free space in Wndows in order to shrink it) then you get a choice when you boot for windows or ubuntu
[04:48] <nhaines> Bilford, no, it started in November, I think, but I usually wait until about four or five months in before trying.
[04:48] <mawa> cool with the chrink feature, does it work well?
[04:48] <mawa> shrink
[04:48] <Efnian> brandon_, noprob, i think the repo one, which is optimized for blackdown java, is fairly easy to install.
[04:48] <jaime> nhaines do you got msn so we can chat
[04:48] <ubuntu> ok when i clikc on the "cd" on the desktop i see a folder that says install, is that what folder i go in?
[04:48] <Efnian> brandon_, although i prefer the official one, it's cleaner.
[04:48] <nhaines> mawa, yes, it works extremely well.
[04:48] <Warbo> ubuntu: It is much easier to set up with Dapper though, as it has graphics (Breezy install CD is text-based)
[04:48] <nhaines> jaime I do have msn, yes.
[04:48] <jaime> can you add me
[04:48] <ubuntu> oo ok
[04:48] <intelikey> ray__ i'm not 'sure' you need v4l to get that to work.   but  apt-cache search v4l
[04:49] <ubuntu> can i download drapper while i am on the live cd?
[04:49] <ubuntu> then install?
[04:49] <jaime> jaimesdemoyan@hotmail.com
[04:49] <slavik> ubuntu, why?
[04:49] <Warbo> ubuntu: You cannot install from breezy livecd (like you have), it is not hidden away, it is not there
[04:49] <ubuntu> never mind
[04:49] <ubuntu> so i have to download drapper, then burn it to a cd and the ninstall it?
[04:49] <intelikey> ray__ was v4l not an option in the modules section of your config ?
[04:49] <jaime> i have some problems with my ubuntu and i think you can help me fix them
[04:49] <slavik> ubuntu, just wait for the release livecd
[04:49] <T-CAN> has anyone in here tried building a Linux from scratch system?
[04:49] <ubuntu> when is that?
[04:49] <mawa> is there any "known" reason to why would not be able to access the capture controls in alsamixer?
[04:50] <Warbo> ubuntu: If you download the Dapper cd you will not be able to save it if you use windows xp (linux cannot write to ntfs partitions) unless you save it to a usb drive or something
[04:50] <lukaswayne9> T-CAN: Does Archlinux count? :)
[04:50] <paradon> T-CAN: I did, a long time ago.
[04:50] <ubuntu> what?
[04:50] <T-CAN> how did it turn out?
[04:50] <Warbo> ubuntu: I mean from within the LiveCD
[04:50] <ubuntu> ok
[04:50] <paradon> T-CAN: Initial setup isn't _too_ bad... updates are a b****
[04:50] <hassan> linux from scratch was too hard for me and i've done stage 1 from stage 3 tarball gentoo with no problems
[04:50] <T-CAN> ya, i can imagine
[04:50] <ubuntu> so if i get out of the live cd and use windows and download drapper then burn it to a cd then install it?
[04:50] <ray__> intelikey, that doesn't seem to be what i need. nvidia drivers should work just fine
[04:50] <slavik> hassan: is that your first name?
[04:51] <Flannel> ubuntu: right.
[04:51] <nhaines> jaime, sure, what's your MSN Messenger username?
[04:51] <paradon> As in, I never updated stuff at all unless I really needed to...
[04:51] <T-CAN> hassan, really?
[04:51] <ubuntu> ok
[04:51] <ubuntu> cool
[04:51] <hassan> last name
[04:51] <Bilford> nhaines, when do you think the first Edgy releasse will be
[04:51] <ray__> especially with all the howtos i've seen
[04:51] <jaime> jaimesdemoyan@hotmail.com
[04:51] <ubuntu> whats the big difference between drapper and breazy badger?
[04:51] <Flannel> Bilford: edgy will release in octover
[04:51] <slavik> nvm then
[04:51] <your_mom> whats the sudo apt to install xorg. it seems i uninstalled, and messed up my whole system, any help pleae
[04:51] <intelikey> ray__ other than the missing v4l  i don't see any thing that looks  amiss
[04:51] <Bilford> Flannel, not official
[04:51] <Bilford> Flannel, testing releases
[04:51] <h3h_timo> has anyone ever tried xubuntu on an xbox?
[04:51] <nhaines> Bilford, probably in a month or so.  But the actual release will be in mid-October.
[04:51] <Flannel> ubuntu: ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta
[04:51] <Warbo> your_mom: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:51] <paradon> T-CAN: I went from LinuxFromScratch to SourceMage, which was a huge, huge improvement :-)
[04:51] <ubuntu> ok cool
[04:51] <slavik> "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to whoever messed up their install
[04:52] <ubuntu> is it easy to install for a newbie?
[04:52] <ray__> intelikey, say i dl'ed v4l-conf, would i specify something in xorg.conf myself?
[04:52] <lukaswayne9> T-CAN: arch linux is pretty cool if you want to learn the ins and outs of the system... it's kinda like a binary gentoo
[04:52] <Warbo> ubuntu: Yes, just read what it tells you carefully (it is a big step, installing an OS)
[04:52] <T-CAN> paradon, did you try LFS relatively early in your Linux career? did it help you learn a lot?
[04:52] <nhaines> ubuntu: it couldn't be easier.  Get the Desktop CD and then you can boot into it and install it from there.
[04:52] <ubuntu> yea i did damns small linux on my laptop
[04:52] <hassan> t-can yeah. lfs can be done but stick to a guide from the forums
[04:52] <ubuntu> this seems easier
[04:53] <ubuntu> anywho drapper is graphical u said, so that shoudl be easy
[04:53] <intelikey> ray__ and like i said.  i don't know that you need it,  but you can try adding    section "Module"   load  v4l
[04:53] <intelikey> in section modules that is
[04:53] <Warbo> ubuntu: Yep, it uses gparted I think (to shrink windows/create Linux partitions)
[04:53] <nhaines> Yes, it has a wizard with 7 pages, it asks just a couple questions, and then it goes to work.  :)
[04:53] <ubuntu> and in the graphical interface will it allow me to keep windows?
[04:53] <SurfnKid> I figured out why I was chopping
[04:53] <nhaines> ubuntu: yes.
[04:53] <lukaswayne9> T-CAN: i would reccommend Arch, I learned a lot from Arch
[04:53] <ubuntu> ok
[04:53] <paradon> T-CAN: Well, I'd been using Redhat 6 as my primary OS for about 2 years, and working as a sysadmin with Mandrake7 servers for about a year, when I installed LFS.  But yeah, I learned a fair bit.
[04:53] <ubuntu> cool thanks for the help
[04:53] <ubuntu> u guys are the best
[04:53] <Warbo> np
[04:53] <jaime> does any know where i can get linux manuals
[04:54] <SurfnKid> 3Ddesk creates a burden on the CPU and chops the screensaver so no more 3D desk
[04:54] <davidmccabe> Samsung's support website is 404.
[04:54] <ray__> intelikey, one more question: everytime i save the xorg.conf file, do i have to restart?
[04:54] <WoodwardAve> repos are getting slammed
[04:54] <ray__> in order for changes to show up?
[04:54] <intelikey> only restart X  not a reboot
[04:54] <Warbo> Has anyone tried Gnash? Did they have problems with Macromedia/Adobe Flash since?
[04:54] <SurfnKid> hey intelikey I got my ATI card going =D now I can do cool graphics
[04:55] <intelikey> ray__ issue  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:55] <ray__> i tried hitting ctrl+alt+backspace and i don't know how to get x to start up again
[04:55] <cowbud> when I do something like xterm -bg black it says color name "black" undefined and yet I have a /etc/X11/rgb.txt wtih black in it..any ideas?
[04:55] <Warbo> ray__: in a console (ctrl-alt-f1) type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to restart the graphics without rebooting
[04:55] <nhaines> jaime, I'm sorry, I didn't see your message with your username.  I just added you.
[04:56] <T-CAN> lukaswayne9, so how do I get started with arch?
[04:56] <SurfnKid> Warbo is that how you start the gdm lets say if you dont go directly to the logon screen?
[04:56] <intelikey> SurfnKid good on ya there
[04:56] <SurfnKid> yep mate
[04:56] <Warbo> SurfnKid: Yes, it makes any temporary files it needs to (better than typing "sudo gdm")
[04:56] <jaime> speak to me
[04:56] <lukaswayne9> T-CAN: http://archlinux.org   They have an excellent guide from installing, setting up the system, and using the core tools
[04:56] <jaime> on msn
[04:56] <intelikey> SurfnKid just venella sudo gdm
[04:56] <PrimoTurbo> Anyone have any clue on when Ubuntu will be out I want to download it as soon as possible :p
[04:56] <pike__> cowbud: if you designate a foreground too xterm -fg green -bg black does it work?
[04:56] <nhaines> PrimoTurbo, today.
[04:57] <lukaswayne9> T-CAN: they also have a helpful community at #archlinux
[04:57] <SurfnKid> so If I disable the option to have the logon screen then I'll just have a prompt correct?
[04:57] <Warbo> SurfnKid: You cannot do that in a GUI though, as it will stop but not start again because the GUI telling it what to do is gone (use stop and start for that)
[04:57] <nhaines> Even though it messes with my connection lately!  :p
[04:57] <intelikey> SurfnKid yep
[04:57] <SurfnKid> ok cool
[04:57] <paradon> T-CAN: Archlinux is a fairly nice, fairly light, binary distro, with a very nice package build system that's very reminiscent of BSD Ports
[04:57] <SurfnKid> in case anyone wants to mess with this pc and I know how to get into the gdm =D
[04:58] <Warbo> SurfnKid: Use start instead of restart if it is not already running
[04:58] <cluehammer> only an hour to go!
[04:58] <cowbud> pike__: it comes up black fine but it complains about not having black defined..
[04:58] <SurfnKid> Warbo I gotcha
[04:58] <lukaswayne9> paradon: i used to be a hardcore archer.. really showed me the ropes of linux
[04:58] <lukaswayne9> paradon: i've made so many arch packages in my day
[04:58] <SurfnKid> so its always better to do it in one of the terminal screens
[04:58] <SurfnKid> cool
[04:59] <intelikey> SurfnKid also of note you might want to start x via the startx command.   that bypasses gdm and puts you right into the wm of your choice (gnome default)
[04:59] <DapperDrake> cluehammer: /topic
[04:59] <Beforewisdom> If I wait until tomorrow will the update manager take care of upgrading Ubuntu for me?
[04:59] <sailorptah> hello :)  I have an Acer TravelMate 8200 running Breezy Badger here, and it can't seem to find the network card, or the battery.  (It thinks it's running on AC power even when unplugged.  The problem is that I can't see how much power the battery has left.)  Help, please?
[04:59] <SurfnKid> ohh
[04:59] <DapperDrake> please dont ask that
[04:59] <Beforewisdom> ;p;
[04:59] <Beforewisdom> lol
[04:59] <Beforewisdom> sorry
[04:59] <paradon> lukaswayne9: I haven't used it heavily, just on a couple of old machines where I wanted a lightweight distro with XFCE... but I'll almost certainly use it next time I want to make a "customised" server distro.  In the past I've used SourceMage... but compiling everything on every machine is annoying.
[04:59] <intelikey> SurfnKid most console users  use   startx  for X sessions
[04:59] <SurfnKid> how do i chose the WM of my choice with startx
[04:59] <Warbo> Beforewisdom: I doubt it. You will need to change breezy to dapper in your sources.list then it will do it
[05:00] <cowbud> SurfnKid: edit your .xinitrc
[05:00] <leonel> dapper  !!  come out come out wherever you are !
[05:00] <SurfnKid> i see
[05:00] <lukaswayne9> paradon: yeah.. arch has pretty nice optimizations as well
[05:00] <SurfnKid> thatll be homework for later
[05:00] <Beforewisdom> Warbo, I saw a post on slashdot that said the update manager should take care of it, was that post bullshit?
[05:00] <intelikey> SurfnKid you have to have other wm's installed to choose them.
[05:00] <lukaswayne9> paradon: i just installed ubuntu on my server, that's working out pretty nicely
[05:00] <SurfnKid> Im just getting the hang of this OS
[05:00] <nhaines> Beforewisdom, that's not true.  Your Upgrade Manager will let you upgrade automatically.
[05:00] <MTecknology> anybody know off hand what dependencies cvswine needs?
[05:00] <SurfnKid> intelikey, right I have a few already but dont come up on the session options
[05:00] <Warbo> Beforewisdom: If you redirect your update manager from breezy to dapper then it will be fine, you have to redirect it manually though
[05:01] <slavik> -d
[05:01] <Shaezsche> dapper is dumb if it cannot recognize software modems
[05:01] <nhaines> Warbo, that's nto true.  If he redirects it he will break it.
[05:01] <leonel> HEY  dapper  !!  come out come out wherever you are !
[05:01] <Healot> Shaezsche: no, you are :-
[05:01] <Warbo> Beforewisdom: There is a file /etc/apt/sources.list which you should open (as super user) and replace any "breezy" with "dapper" then reload synaptic
[05:01] <Shaezsche> seriously, how hard is it to program a linux distro to recognize modems?
[05:01] <intelikey> SurfnKid one can for instance issue a command like    startx /usr/bin/xfce4    to open an xfce session    iirc
[05:02] <Flannel> Shaezsche: how hard is it for the modem manufacturers to release the specifications of the modem?
[05:02] <Viaken> Shaezsche: http://linmodem.org
[05:02] <Beforewisdom> thanks warbo.  I might wait a few days, I can hear servers creaking now
[05:02] <nhaines> Beforewisdom, do not change your sources.list file.  You will break your install.
[05:02] <Warbo> Shaezsche: Seriously, how hard is it to make a modem that is a modem? :)
[05:02] <Shaezsche> viaken that prog doesnt recognize my modem
[05:02] <Healot> Shaezsche: Real modem, easy, soft modem lacks of driver and even a nit of support from manufacture
[05:02] <Shaezsche> and viaken why isnt that built into ubuntu?
[05:02] <nhaines> Beforewisdom, as soon as 6.06 is released, your update manager will offer to let you upgrade.
[05:02] <intelikey> SurfnKid be sure to tab complete commands like that.
[05:02] <SurfnKid> iirc as in chat?
[05:02] <Warbo> nhaines: My install is fine???
[05:02] <SurfnKid> right full path
[05:02] <knanand> what is de cmd to install rpm packages
[05:02] <intelikey> iirc=if i recall correctly
[05:02] <Healot> alien <rpm file>
[05:02] <Warbo> knanand: Use alien on them first, and that is a bit dodgy
[05:02] <SurfnKid> oh lol
[05:02] <lukaswayne9> well it's bedtime for me, night all
[05:03] <nhaines> Warbo, there is a special upgrade tool that handles the update and tranistional and obsoleted packages.
[05:03] <Warbo> nhaines: Does it? Cool
[05:03] <SurfnKid> hey is there a command line based IRC that i can get to in case i have trouble thru the terminal
[05:03] <Shaezsche> ubuntu also doesnt recognize laptop card readers
[05:03] <Shaezsche> at least rarely
[05:03] <lwarimav> Can anyone here tell me how to restore my firefox in ubuntu???
[05:03] <spikeb> SurfnKid, irssi
[05:03] <SurfnKid> sweet
[05:03] <henriquemaia> What's this? ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/
[05:03] <SurfnKid> thx
[05:03] <SurfnKid> might need that when all else fails
[05:03] <spikeb> SurfnKid, i think it is installed by default
[05:03] <SurfnKid> cuz im definitely not bootin to WXP
[05:03] <SurfnKid> ahh
[05:04] <intelikey> SurfnKid several in fact.  even xchat has a text mode
[05:04] <SurfnKid> oh
[05:04] <knanand> Warbo: is it alien <pkg_name> ??
[05:04] <WhatTheDeuce> Hey.  I'm having some trouble getting cl-curl working.  I've installed libcurl3-dev, cl-uffi, and cl-asdf, but when I try (asdf:operate 'asdf:compile-op :curl) (asdf:operate 'asdf:load-op :curl) I get errors
[05:04] <SurfnKid> yeah something so i can crank up and ask for help
[05:04] <Healot> Is anyone here who dumb enough to ask question about proprietary hardware?
[05:04] <Viaken> Shaezsche: These things are not so simple as you seem to think. Manufacturers worldwide are making their own, custom interfaces and hardware and not providing any documentation or help for people wanting to interface it. It's like trying to learn an alien language with no training programs, no books, just a native speaker that can't understand you, either.
[05:04] <intelikey> SurfnKid i'm using bx as we speak
[05:04] <lwarimav> How can I restore firefox???
[05:04] <chron> what is the gnome browser called?
[05:04] <Warbo> knanand: You need the rpm file in the directory your terminal is in (default is home) then "sudo alien packagefile.rpm"
[05:04] <chron> the command
[05:04] <pike__> lwarimav: what mean you restore? an easy workaround would be just download the updated firefox to your home directory and run it from there
[05:05] <chron> on ubuntu
[05:05] <nhaines> chron, epiphany
[05:05] <intelikey> lwarimav restore ?
[05:05] <K|NgGh0sT> How can I stop Kubuntu from displaying LCD ON,  every 4 mins
[05:05] <nhaines> chron,  Or maybe nautilus --browser
[05:05] <klormexor> < SurfnKid on irssi
[05:05] <klormexor> hehe
[05:05] <intelikey> chron nautilus ?
[05:05] <Warbo> chron: epiphany (not to be confused with the boulderdash clone)
[05:05] <klormexor> ok im outs
[05:05] <lwarimav> Firefox doesn't work....
[05:05] <mrproper> When I try to install vmware-player from multiverse, it says it cannot display the license.
[05:05] <lwarimav> Should I reinstalle it???
[05:05] <chron> ok thanks
[05:05] <chron> my friend not too good at linux
[05:05] <chron> needs a root browser
[05:05] <chron> to drag and drop fles
[05:05] <chron> heh
[05:06] <chron> i guess thats the friendliest way?  even though it's not secure
[05:06] <pike__> lwarimav: if you type 'killall firefox-bin' does that fix it?
[05:06] <nbx909> dapper is out
[05:06] <nbx909> ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/
[05:06] <Shaezsche> will ubuntu even recognize the intel 900 graphics chipset?
[05:06] <nbx909> ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[05:07] <sailorptah> Can anyone tell me how to get my laptop to detect the network card?  Or the battery?
[05:07] <Warbo> lwarimav: Has it been installed through Synapic/apt? Then I would try a complete removel (--purge) and reinstall if the problem persists
[05:07] <nhaines> nbx909, that is probably the release candidate.
[05:07] <nbx909> no it's not
[05:07] <nbx909> look at it
[05:07] <nbx909> the release clients have rc
[05:07] <chron> "epiphany: command not found"
[05:07] <chron> you sure thats the browser?
[05:07] <Shaezsche> its an alternate install iso
[05:07] <Healot> read the release document yet?
[05:07] <lwarimav> thank Warbo... I'll try that
[05:07] <Shaezsche> its rc
[05:07] <chron> or is it nautilus?
[05:07] <Warbo> Shaezsche: It's got 3D acceleration built into the kernel for intel I think
[05:07] <sailorptah> Okay, how about this: Can anyone HEAR me?  Are these messages coming through?
[05:07] <knanand> Warbo: alien cmd not found.
[05:07] <nbx909> sailorptah, ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[05:08] <sailorptah> Ah, thank you.
[05:08] <nbx909> Shaezsche, ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[05:08] <intelikey> lwarimav i'm not sure what you are wanting to restore though ?    if you mean reinstall it.  then apt-get purge it and then install ubuntu-desktop  but if you have broken it locally that wont help you.    test this.  do sudo useradd something && sudo passwd something     logout and login as something with the passwd you set.  then start ff and see if the break is local or system.
[05:08] <Warbo> chron: Epiphany is GNOME's favourite browser, but Ubuntu uses firefox (type it)
[05:08] <chron> i'm trying to drag and drop files as root, how would i do this?
[05:08] <nbx909> it has the rc along with all of them
[05:08] <Warbo> knanand: You need to install it (sudo apt-get install alien)
[05:08] <sizzymia> i'm trying to print to my photo tray with a HP photosmart 7760 and it won't work.  I can print with the normal tray, but not the photo tray.  any ideas?
[05:08] <lwarimav> ok intelikey
[05:09] <SurfnKid> I just thougght of this today, maybe you all have, but the fact that running an OS where you have no clue whats on the background, except maybe limited to only killing processes and viewing CPU time and load has made me think of linux now, it gets you involved, you actually know what is the pc loading to, module wise and processes wise, and if something fails even then you can code your way out of a crash
[05:09] <kaled> hmm, where are the .torrents?
[05:09] <chron> if you run nautilus as root
[05:09] <argpirate> anyone know where to get a newer version of kxdocker?
[05:09] <chron> are you looking at screw ups?
[05:09] <intelikey> lwarimav if it works for something  you have files in your normal users $HOME  that are causing the issue.  else it's a system break
[05:09] <Warbo> chron: Yes, especially for a newbie
[05:09] <chron> i'm trying to drag and drop files as root
[05:09] <SurfnKid> just a thought =D
[05:09] <chron> how can i do this?
[05:09] <Flannel> chron: gksudo nautilus
[05:09] <Warbo> chron: What files?
[05:10] <chron> ok thanks
[05:10] <chron> just alot of files
[05:10] <chron> from one hd to another
[05:10] <Warbo> chron: i mean, why do you need root?
[05:10] <Flannel> chron: just be careful ;)
[05:10] <bkh> SurfnKid: Yeah, having a system that isn't designed to hide things from you is a definite plus when you're learning this stuff...
[05:10] <Warbo> chron: Set the permissions properly and you have solved the underlying issue
[05:10] <chron> thats what i'm trying to get him to do
[05:11] <bkh> I certainly learned alot my first time using linux... but then, that was with slackware back around kernel 0.83 or so :)
[05:11] <RTB|Waiting4Dapr> chron?
[05:11] <Shaezsche> how can i edit the kernal?
[05:11] <RTB|Waiting4Dapr> ok nevermind\
[05:11] <RTB|Waiting4Dapr> I thought you were someone else
[05:11] <bkh> Shaezsche: Go to /usr/src/linux
[05:11] <Shaezsche> thanks
[05:11] <intelikey> welcome to the club SurfnKid
[05:11] <Viaken> Shaezsche: That's probably in the wiki, too, if you want more details.
[05:12] <Harold_P> So far all the links I've gotten, even the .pool one seem to be RC's
[05:12] <Warbo> Shaezsche: Install the source and go to it, then configure it and make it and use the bzImage it makes as your kernel
[05:12] <Shaezsche> navigating that wiki is daunting
[05:12] <Shaezsche> thanks
[05:12] <Shaezsche> what do you mean install the source? shouldnt it automatically be installed if i am running the operating system
[05:12] <Warbo> Shaezsche: I think it is in /lib/modules/<kernelversion>/build as well (linked)
[05:12] <Shaezsche> ok
[05:12] <intelikey> Shaezsche lol
[05:13] <nhaines> No, Shaezsche, only the binaries are installed when you run the OS.
[05:13] <chapium> help, the X just switched to 640x480 and i forgot the key combination that changes it.  Everything is huge now!
[05:13] <Shaezsche> well, how do i install the source? must it be dled?
[05:13] <Viaken> Shaezsche: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto?highlight=%28kernel%29
[05:13] <Warbo> Shaezsche: No, the source is about 40MB+ which is not really needed. For building programs the linux-headers package suffices
[05:13] <Shaezsche> thanks via lol
[05:13] <nosklo> hmm seems like final version is here ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ ?
[05:13] <Shaezsche> NO nosklo stfu
[05:13] <nbx909> yep
[05:13] <Viaken> The search has always worked for me. :P
[05:13] <nbx909> that's it
[05:13] <Shaezsche> that was an alternate install version
[05:13] <RTB|Waiting4Dapr> ?_o
[05:13] <offby1> is it straightforward to upgrade Debian Sarge to Dapper?
[05:13] <Shaezsche> i know nothing about linux but i KNOW thats  a RC
[05:13] <intelikey> Shaezsche you could install the full linux source tree including the source for all apps........  got a few tara to waste.
[05:14] <intelikey> ?
[05:14] <Warbo> offby1: no
[05:14] <nosklo> it doesnt have the "rc' tag in the filename
[05:14] <nbx909> Shaezsche, the alternate verson means just a text install
[05:14] <offby1> Warbo: is there anything written about it, or should I not even try?
[05:14] <nosklo> and the modify date is today
[05:14] <nbx909> yeah
[05:14] <Mixx> look at the upload dates of them
[05:14] <Hisakasex> hello
[05:14] <SurfnKid> lol intelikey
[05:14] <Krhis> 722b8b4a75f977a76a722d4a2b071b19  ubuntu-6.06-desktop-amd64.iso <<<< Not a RC?
[05:14] <SurfnKid> the Molecule screen saver has got me so hooked, im lovin it
[05:14] <Warbo> offby1: Well, I would recommend starting from scratch with Dapper, but if you don't mind wasting a bit of time you could have a go and learn a bit
[05:14] <Viaken> intelikey: I run Gentoo on my desktop. All the source is on it, and it only takes up 6G.
[05:15] <Healot> just let Mark announce the release...
[05:15] <Viaken> It's compressed, true, but it's there.
[05:15] <RTB|Waiting4Dapr> well the servers are up
[05:15] <Healot> greedy Ubuntu freaks
[05:15] <offby1> Warbo: what might you expect to be the problem?
[05:15] <whitesuit> ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[05:15] <whitesuit> is it out?
[05:15] <spikeb> NO
[05:15] <Flannel> whitesuit: stop it.  no.
[05:15] <SurfnKid> bkh yeah just be able to code something even if you're not a programmer, im a network engineer i hate coding, im terrible with syntax, and look at me ive done a few things here and there
[05:15] <spikeb> until it's been announced, it's not out.
[05:15] <PrimoTurbo> whitesuit: thanks downloading now
[05:15] <intelikey> Viaken your All   and my  All   !=
[05:15] <mumanddad> what's the best way to allow remote logins to dapper?
[05:15] <Bilford> Mark Shuttleworth is going to announce it in here?
[05:15] <Warbo> offby1: PAckages are given different names and are built with different versions of glibc and stuff, meaning that they all conflict and the ones which do install may not work right
[05:16] <GreedyUbuntuFrea> ssh I think
[05:16] <pike__> mumanddad: im partial to freenx
[05:16] <Viaken> Meh...
[05:16] <GreedyUbuntuFrea> but i'm not a greedy ubuntu freak or anything
[05:16] <ablyss> mumanddad: the ablyss-a-fied way ;-)
[05:16] <intelikey> Viaken your all = all that you have installed.   my all = all there is.
[05:16] <bzaks> could anyone help me out? I tried installing php, but the phpmodule for apache didn't install
[05:16] <whitesuit> Flannel, what is that file then?
[05:16] <offby1> Warbo: ah.  You have properly frightened me :-)  Thanks
[05:16] <Flannel> whitesuit: not necessarily the final one.
[05:16] <PrimoTurbo> wait is that the release or no?
[05:16] <DShepherd> is ubuntu out now?
[05:16] <lysis> how's it going everybody?
[05:16] <Efnian> it is not out
[05:16] <GreedyUbuntuFrea> DShepherd, NO
[05:16] <PrimoTurbo> good downloading it now
[05:16] <DShepherd> lysis: ok so far
[05:16] <mumanddad> are you all drunk? :-)
[05:16] <DShepherd> GreedyUbuntuFrea: ok
[05:16] <lysis> DShepherd: ubuntu's been out for a while. =)
[05:17] <Hisakasex> help with postfix
[05:17] <DShepherd> lysis: :-P
[05:17] <GreedyUbuntuFrea> SORry
[05:17] <lysis> DShepherd: =)   did you mean dapper?  lol  ;)
[05:17] <intelikey> mumanddad no i'm a troll....
[05:17] <DShepherd> so who's been raising the false alarm
[05:17] <Viaken> Hm...speaking of that, I probably don't need the source for the past 4 versions of OOo...
[05:17] <mumanddad> lol
[05:17] <intelikey> :)
[05:17] <PrimoTurbo> hold on is dapper drake out yet or no? what am I downloading atm?
[05:17] <DShepherd> lysis: no i didnt i meant edgy :-)
[05:17] <Roger_The_Bum> the RC
[05:17] <Hisakasex> if I set $mynetwork to 127.0.0.1 do I need to set smptd_restriction_parameters also to something?
[05:17] <pike__> mumanddad: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[05:17] <mumanddad> if your downloading from the website probably Breezy
[05:17] <Roger_The_Bum> 127.0.0.1?
[05:17] <mumanddad> thanks pike
[05:17] <Hisakasex> only localhost
[05:17] <Roger_The_Bum> I'm So Hakcing you!!11!
[05:18] <cool> hi
[05:18] <cluehammer> omfg
[05:18] <cluehammer> haaax
[05:18] <lysis> Roger_The_Bum: 127.0.0.1 is the standard loopback address.
[05:18] <PrimoTurbo> How will the file be named? ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[05:18] <Roger_The_Bum> no duh
[05:18] <mumanddad> lol... I'm behind a firewall
[05:18] <lysis> Roger_The_Bum: you seemed confused
[05:18] <lysis> lol
[05:18] <nhaines> PrimoTurbo, you 're probably downloading a daily CD.
[05:18] <Hisakasex> yes
[05:18] <Roger_The_Bum> I was going to do a connection reset by peer thing
[05:18] <eXcentra> lysis: it's just a joke ;P
[05:18] <PrimoTurbo> k I'll wait for offical word then
[05:18] <nhaines> PrimoTurbo, the website will be updated as soon as 6.06 is out.
[05:18] <Warbo> Roger_The_Bum: NO!! Whois says that's me!
[05:18] <ablyss> mumanddad: get sshd, set up /etc/hosts.allow, run a cron job to check for remote access via http that recognizing a "secret" pass to remote in, which the cron job will read and edit /etc/hosts.allow.. u then can safely remotely log into an encrypted system
[05:18] <Hisakasex> I don't want any machine in my network to send emails
[05:18] <lysis> well i wasn't here for the beginning of the joke!!! =)
[05:18] <intelikey> hehhe dl all your warez at 127.0.0.1
[05:19] <Brennan> hey!
[05:19] <lysis> hahaha intelikey
[05:19] <bzaks> how do I go about removing something I put in by using "make install"? is there a "unmake" or "uninstall" ?
[05:19] <Warbo> bzaks: Usually "make uninstall"
[05:19] <eXcentra> lysis: :| heh, for a sec i thought that you might've been acting sarcastic as well.
[05:19] <lysis> Roger_The_Bum: i bet you'll never figure out the password . . .
[05:19] <Brennan> can someone help me with installing limewire?
[05:19] <Belutz> so, the dapper haven't out yet
[05:19] <seife> where can i download dapper drake final release?
[05:19] <Brennan> im new to ubuntu and dont know how to do t his
[05:19] <Viaken> seife: /topic
[05:19] <bzaks> okay
[05:19] <bzaks> thanks Warbo
[05:19] <Flannel> seife: you can't yet.
[05:19] <WimS> exactly where does the packages i download with a-get gets storedo nmy harddisk ?
[05:20] <lysis> eXcentra: nope. haha  i thought he was going "127.0.0.1?" and then my brain was adding "wtf is that?" so i immediately answered for him of course. haha
[05:20] <seife> Flannel: why not
[05:20] <Warbo> Brennan: Do you have: Java and Universe
[05:20] <Flannel> seife: it's not out yet.
[05:20] <Shaezsche> sudo eat bill gates
[05:20] <Brennan> i do not
[05:20] <Flannel> !tell Brennan about limewire
[05:20] <WimS> exactly where does the packages i download with apt-get gets storedo nmy harddisk ?
[05:20] <eXcentra> lysis: haha, i see
[05:20] <Brennan> can you give me ae link?
[05:20] <Shaezsche> why doesnt that command work?
[05:20] <Warbo> !tell Brennan about universe
[05:20] <Flannel> Brennan: check your pm from ubotu
[05:20] <bzaks> Warbo: if I want to uninstall with make, what folder to I go to?
[05:20] <lysis> WimS: i believe /usr/local/bin ?
[05:20] <Warbo> !tell Brennan about java
[05:20] <AngryElf> 897 ppl in the chan, that's a lot yea?
[05:20] <nhaines> WimS: /var/cache/apt/cache/archives
[05:20] <WimS> lysis thanks
[05:20] <lastnode>     
[05:20] <WimS> oh
[05:20] <SurfnKid> now that ive got the Video card, the restrictedDRM thing now i need to get my fan sensors running
[05:20] <lysis> lastnode: what? lol
[05:20] <cluehammer> more in gentoo
[05:20] <Roger_The_Bum> 0_o
[05:20] <SurfnKid> lastnode whoaaaaaaoooaoaoaaaa
[05:20] <lastnode> sorry, font
[05:20] <lastnode> :)
[05:21] <cluehammer> though thats probably cause they all need to beg for help to get it to work
[05:21] <lwarimav> whao
[05:21] <lastnode> i was typing in sinhala
[05:21] <seife> Flannel: when its going to be released
[05:21] <seife> tonight?
[05:21] <Warbo> bzaks: The folder that contains the program (all instructions for make are in a Makefile in each source directory)
[05:21] <Shaezsche> am i retarded if i am installing ubuntu for gaming?
[05:21] <Flannel> seife: check the topic.
[05:21] <lastnode> guys, is there a good character map for gnome?
[05:21] <Roger_The_Bum> oh
[05:21] <Roger_The_Bum> ok
[05:21] <Shaezsche> j/k
[05:21] <bzaks> oh!!! so if I deleted it, I'm fucked?
[05:21] <Flannel> lastnode: gnome has a character map. yes.
[05:21] <Efnian> Shaezsche, no, you're not.
[05:21] <Flannel> bzaks: language.
[05:21] <seife> i want it at 0:00
[05:21] <lysis> Shaezsche: depends, how much you like chess?
[05:21] <seife> hehhe jk
[05:21] <Shaezsche> -j/k
[05:21] <bzaks> sorry
[05:21] <Roger_The_Bum> that looked bangladesh-ish
[05:21] <lastnode> Flannel, where is it?
[05:21] <lysis> =P
[05:21] <Flannel> lastnode: sigh, going to make me fire up gnome? ;)  probably in accessories.  let me look.
[05:21] <crimsun> lastnode: Applications> Accessories> Character Map
[05:22] <Flannel> thanks crimsun
[05:22] <Healot> played a lot of 3D on ubuntu/other gnu/linux distro
[05:22] <Warbo> bzaks: Redownload it, configure it then make uninstall
[05:22] <Strokerace> hi, I need some help with a live cd
[05:22] <Viaken> I play lots of games on Ubuntu.
[05:22] <Healot> egoboo is one of my favorite
[05:22] <bzaks> okay
[05:22] <bzaks> thanks Warbo!
[05:22] <Shaezsche> cedega!
[05:22] <Shaezsche> the only game i play is warcraft 3
[05:22] <Shaezsche> and starcraft
[05:22] <Healot> who need windows games
[05:22] <nefelim> i'm using ubuntu, would there be a problem if i install the kde desktop or do i need to reinstall using the kubuntu instead? thanks...
[05:22] <cluehammer> mmmm starcraft
[05:22] <lysis> i could never get cedega, cxo, or wine to work properly for me
[05:22] <ablyss> nefelim: no problem
[05:22] <Warbo> nefelim: You can use both fine
[05:22] <nhaines> Strokerace, what's the problem?
[05:22] <your_mom> is there a way to get around "overwriting now allowed
[05:22] <Strokerace> live cd doesn't work on my HP laptop
[05:22] <Flannel> nefelim: nope, just install kubuntu-desktop
[05:23] <Roger_The_Bum> Oh ReaLlY?
[05:23] <nhaines> nefelim, install kubuntu-desktop
[05:23] <nefelim> ah okay thanks
[05:23] <Roger_The_Bum> wow
[05:23] <Viaken> No, actually, Chromium, Planet Penguin Racer, Battle for Wesnoth, Blob Wars, Globulation, Fish Fillets, ScummVM with the free games in the depos, etc.
[05:23] <Roger_The_Bum> I should remember that
[05:23] <Hisakasex> need help with postfix
[05:23] <Roger_The_Bum> that's awesom
[05:23] <ablyss> nefelim: just take note if you use QT theme engine with KDE, gtk apps will break often
[05:23] <Roger_The_Bum> ok never mind then
[05:23] <nefelim> what is qt?
[05:23] <Warbo> nefelim: The buttons and stuff KDE uses. GNOME uses GTK, they use different themes and stuff
[05:24] <cluehammer> enemy territory!
[05:24] <SurfnKid> !sensors
[05:24] <lysis> nefelim: sometimes girls call me a QT
[05:24] <ubotu> sensors is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[05:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> nefelim: KDEs graphic toolkit...like GTK for gnome.
[05:24] <ablyss> qt theme engine is a theme engine that makes gtk apps look like kde apps
[05:24] <Strokerace> it get an error when it goes to the desktop and gnome
[05:24] <nbx909> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570
[05:24] <nefelim> a okey
[05:24] <Viaken> !sensors
[05:24] <nefelim> so which is better gnome or kde?
[05:24] <lysis> i prefer gnome
[05:24] <Viaken> ah ok
[05:24] <Strokerace> KDE
[05:24] <Warbo> nefelim: Don't start a flame war!
[05:24] <nhaines> nefelim, they are both very good, but act a little different.
[05:24] <Shaezsche> if i disable my internal HD, and set my laptop to boot to an USB HD with the install CD in the drive, will it automatically intall on the external drive? or will i need to use a special command?
[05:24] <nefelim> hahahhaa sorry
[05:24] <_nano_> nefelim: personal preference
[05:24] <Flannel> !offtopic
[05:24] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[05:24] <Bilford> Ubuntu is on the ABC News:  http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=2026572
[05:24] <Flannel> nefelim: go to offtopic for WM wars ;)
[05:25] <chron> are file system checks done automatically on ubuntu?
[05:25] <cluehammer> you know, i bet ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso really IS the file seeing as how it's timestamped for this morning, still i'm waiting for the torrent
[05:25] <Warbo> nefelim: Try both and see which you prefer. I like features of both, but GNOME has more I like and less I dislike
[05:25] <_nano_> chron: you can set that on fstab
[05:25] <chron> how?
[05:25] <nhaines> I'm actually very impressed, there's like zero fighting between GNOME and KDE users on Ubuntu.
[05:25] <Shaezsche> ?
[05:25] <lwarimav> how can i install the real Player10GOLD.bin???? a simple installation
[05:25] <chron> oh yea the dump/pass right?
[05:25] <Roger_The_Bum> same
[05:25] <_nano_> chron: yea
[05:25] <bimberi> chron: by default the root filesystem is checked every 30 mounts
[05:25] <Roger_The_Bum> lol edubuntu pwns all
[05:25] <nefelim> well i tried to install mandrake on one of my pc i find kde cool but revert back to ubuntu since i find ubuntu more user-friendly so i decided to try kde for ubuntu :)
[05:25] <lysis> Flannel: i think we should finish this dispute right now, once and for all, CLI is best.  bah on WM  =P
[05:25] <Warbo> chron: After a certain time or number of mounts or if you don't shutdown they should check on boot
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[05:25] <Roger_The_Bum> but I am trying to get my brother on it
[05:25] <intelikey> nefelim better is subjective.   which ever you like, is always "better" than the one you don't like.....
[05:26] <Viaken> My philosophy is use whatever works for you, as long as it doesn't prevent us from worknig together.
[05:26] <Roger_The_Bum> it all depends
[05:26] <Funkmon> Hey, you guys, can you help me with a problem I'm having with the 5.10 LiveCD?
[05:26] <Eroick> i installed dapper. it comes with ndiswrapper module, but not the tool. where can I get the tool?
[05:26] <lysis> Funkmon: what's wrong buddy?
[05:26] <chron> so what would 1 2 mean for dump pass
[05:26] <chron> ?
[05:26] <Roger_The_Bum> what?
[05:26] <Flannel> Bilford: it's a pity they got half of it wrong.
[05:26] <Shaezsche> if i disable my internal HD, and set my laptop to boot to an USB HD with the install CD in the drive, will it automatically intall on the external drive? or will i need to use a special command?
[05:26] <nefelim> well okay maybe i will try kde but if im not satisfied is it easy to uninstall it?
[05:26] <Bilford> Flannel, whats wrong
[05:26] <Roger_The_Bum> Funkmon, did you burn the ISO correctly?
[05:26] <pike__> nefelim: take a look at xubuntu too..
[05:26] <Flannel> Bilford: Canonical isn't SELLING support for X years.
[05:26] <lwarimav> intelikey, how can i install in a simple form RealPlayer10GOLD.bin????
[05:26] <DShepherd> i smell dapper nearing
[05:26] <nhaines> Eroick, install ndiswrapper-utils
[05:27] <_nano_> chron: the last column
[05:27] <nefelim> what is xubuntu? what's new with it?
[05:27] <Eroick> nhaines: is it on the CD? if not, where can i get it when im on windowsS?
[05:27] <DShepherd> nefelim: its kooler
[05:27] <Eroick> nefelim: it is ubuntu running xfce
[05:27] <_nano_> chron: the sixth column...it's the fsck column
[05:27] <pike__> nefelim: its xfce more lighweight
[05:27] <nhaines> Eroick, it is on the CD, yes.
[05:27] <Flannel> Bilford: well, they are selling optionally, but it's still poorly worded.
[05:27] <Shaezsche> xubu is supposed to be fast
[05:27] <_nano_> chron: if you set it to 1..it will check file system before mounting it
[05:27] <Roger_The_Bum> note: fsck!=F*ck
[05:27] <nefelim> ah okey
[05:27] <supertanker> hello. I have an Nvidia card with OpenGL support. In my other linux distro, I have the opengl driver installed and working, But in Ubuntu, when I install the driver and try to play a game it says it cannot find libGL
[05:27] <_nano_> chron: it's normally set to zero for faster boot
[05:27] <Viaken> xfce is nifty.
[05:27] <nhaines> Eroick, but pretending it isn't, you could go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for it under dapper, if you had to.  :)
[05:28] <chron> ok thanks
[05:28] <DShepherd> Shaezsche: fast-er
[05:28] <intelikey> lwarimav .bin files can usally be executed.   "sh file.bin "     if it needs root clearance use "sudo sh file.bin "
[05:28] <pike__> xubuntu under dapper is very nifty
[05:28] <Shaezsche> xubu has even worse hardware recognition
[05:28] <supertanker> do I have to enable OpenGL or something?
[05:28] <Warbo> lwarimav: I find the debian package of realplayer from nerim.net works fine in Ubuntu (I would prefer using debian packages than prorpietary vendors idea of an installer)
[05:28] <Efnian> cluehammer, it's timestamped yesterday
[05:28] <Roger_The_Bum> intelikey, would it be sudo -i sh file.bin?
[05:28] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: I knew I'd find you here
[05:28] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: Stalker!
[05:28] <lwarimav> ok
[05:28] <K|NgGh0sT> How can I stop Kubuntu from displaying LCD ON,  every 4 mins
[05:28] <_nano_> Shaezsche: hardware recognition is not done by window managers is it?
[05:28] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Roger_The_Bum is not me :-)
[05:28] <cluehammer> close enough, it's not like they would put an rc out the day before
[05:28] <supertanker> well?
[05:28] <lwarimav> ok warbo
[05:29] <Roger_The_Bum> yeah
[05:29] <intelikey> Roger_The_Bum not if i did it....    i don't use sudo.
[05:29] <Shaezsche> who cares
[05:29] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: i didnt think so either
[05:29] <lwarimav> ok intelikey
[05:29] <cluehammer> 31 minutes left!
[05:29] <Strokerace> anyone here that works on the live cd
[05:29] <Viaken> cluehammer: /topic
[05:29] <Roger_The_Bum> do you use su
[05:29] <nhaines> Roger_The_Bum, use sudo for everything.
[05:29] <Josh43> "Ok, pending Dapper release: Can anyone tell me if there is a way to test the mirror speeds and find out which I should be using?
[05:29] <Funkmon> Psst. Lysis
[05:29] <intelikey> Roger_The_Bum no su and sudo don't work on a system mounted nosuid
[05:29] <supertanker> I need to figure out how to get OpenGL working, I know my card is supported
[05:29] <supertanker> I installed the Nvidia driver
[05:29] <Roger_The_Bum> I dunno
[05:30] <cluehammer> oh i saw the topic, let me dream darn you heh!
[05:30] <supertanker> (that came iwth ubuntu). Do I need to enable it or anythuing?
[05:30] <dr_willis> Josh43:  thers some apt-get tool that can do that.. but i havent messed with it in ages.   but i imagine the best downloads will be with torrents (perhaps)
[05:30] <Roger_The_Bum> I actually don't use ubuntu that often
[05:30] <Flannel> !tell supertanker about nvidia
[05:30] <muszek> cluehammer: is it going to be out in 31 minutes?
[05:30] <cluehammer> no
[05:30] <cluehammer> i'm just being a doof
[05:30] <Roger_The_Bum> I just use it now because of it's l33tn3ss
[05:30] <muszek> oh :)
[05:30] <cluehammer> i'm good at that, practice makes perfect
[05:30] <Roger_The_Bum> and it's wireless support
[05:30] <Roger_The_Bum> *its
[05:30] <nbx909> muszek, it's out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570
[05:31] <BlackWind>               /topic
[05:31] <intelikey> what i use can hardly be called ubuntu.   it is dapper drake  but nothing is default.
[05:31] <BlackWind> oops
[05:31] <argpirate> how can one install an actuall package  from debain? is this possible?
[05:31] <Josh43> dr_willis; I'm looking to permanently change mirrors to something close; like the university
[05:31] <Eroick> how do i set the CDrom as a repo?
[05:31] <dr_willis> Josh43:  ive found that  never works. :P
[05:31] <keithg> How is the grub bootloader reinstalled?
[05:31] <nbx909> sudo dpkg -i package .deb
[05:31] <Viaken> \o/ Hooray being a doof!
[05:31] <argpirate> thanks
[05:31] <Warbo> argpirate: gdebi/dpkg for a package, but I wouldn't add debian sources to apt
[05:31] <carlosqueso> it'll be out in 8:25
[05:31] <Roger_The_Bum> 8:25?
[05:31] <K|NgGh0sT> How can I stop Kubuntu from displaying DISPLAY: LCD ON,  every 4 mins
[05:31] <argpirate> oh i just want to install 1 package
[05:31] <dr_willis> Josh43:  in the past ive gotten better downloads from places 1000+ miles away , it all depends on the servers loads and stuff.
[05:31] <intelikey> argpirate it is possable.  but not recommended.  why not use the package from ubuntu ?
[05:31] <Roger_The_Bum> what's that in UTC
[05:31] <carlosqueso> 8 hrs, 25 mins
[05:31] <nhaines> argpirate, just install gdebi and then double-click the deb packages.
[05:31] <Josh43> dr_wllis; lol; yeah, you are probly right.. just hoping :)
[05:32] <Roger_The_Bum> DAMN IT!
[05:32] <argpirate> intelikey, beceasue the one i want does not exist for ubuntu
[05:32] <intelikey> argpirate name ?
[05:32] <carlosqueso> lol
[05:32] <argpirate> kxdocker 1.1.x
[05:32] <Roger_The_Bum> I wanted to be there for the release
[05:32] <Bilford> ne1 have activation crack for Dapper , pls msg
[05:32] <_nano_> Roger_The_Bum: don't sleep :D
[05:32] <intelikey> kxdocker - innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker
[05:32] <intelikey> kxdocker-data - resource files for kxdocker
[05:32] <Roger_The_Bum> no I have schol
[05:33] <Roger_The_Bum> I leave at 7 EST
[05:33] <argpirate> version .39 is what is in the repos
[05:33] <Warbo> Roger_The_Bum: Yay for half term! :)
[05:33] <intelikey> kxdocker-data - resource files for kxdocker
[05:33] <_nano_> Roger_The_Bum: aww...
[05:33] <Roger_The_Bum> :__(
[05:33] <intelikey> ooops
[05:33] <_nano_> Bilford: activation crack?
[05:33] <Soir> Bilford: just write the contents of /dev/zero onto every file, that'll nullify the control management
[05:33] <nhaines> Bilford, Ubuntu doesn use activation.
[05:33] <Roger_The_Bum> soir: this is a HELP channel
[05:33] <supertanker> I just forgot, what is the name of ubuntu 5.1?
[05:34] <crimsun> supertanker: 5.10 == breezy
[05:34] <_nano_> supertanker: 5.10? breezy
[05:34] <Warbo> Soir: If you said that about windows then taht would be help, but...
[05:34] <Flannel> Soir: that sort of thing will get you banned
[05:34] <Bilford> Soir, THANKS!
[05:34] <Josh43> dr_willis; thus the hope of an automated tool that will spit out what I'm getting from a list of mirrors
[05:34] <Roger_The_Bum> not a stupid "ooh let's fool him with an rm -rf /"
[05:34] <Eroick> i got some 1337 h4x to get u d4pp3r for fr33 d00ds.
[05:34] <nhaines> supertanker, it's 5.10
[05:34] <Soir> Roger_The_Bum: The question's nonsense! ;) I'm allowed a little (poor) humour.
[05:34] <earthen_> can someone tell me how do I do a force recognition on usb devices
[05:34] <Soir> I didn't even say how to do it.
[05:34] <Roger_The_Bum> become a jedi
[05:34] <nhaines> supertanker, that's "five point ten" ;)
[05:34] <dr_willis> Josh43:  theres some apt-get tool that can scan  the apt repos and print out a list of the lowest pinged ones and stuff.. but thats about it.
[05:34] <Soir> (since, someone probably would)
[05:34] <supertanker> ah okay
[05:34] <intelikey> argpirate id wate until dapper flys then if you still need to use the debian deb   use at your own risk.
[05:34] <supertanker> thx
[05:35] <Roger_The_Bum> mnde yur speellig
[05:35] <Flannel> Soir: heh, right.  I see his question now.  deftly handled
[05:35] <imbrandon> cat /dev/zero / ? heheh
[05:35] <Warbo> intelikey: Dapper's flying away? It never even landed!
[05:35] <keithg> :D
[05:35] <Soir> Note to the unwary: trying to commandify my suggestion probably -will- get you banned 8)
[05:35] <Roger_The_Bum> it's almost as edgy as tose rebellious efts!
[05:35] <Roger_The_Bum> *those
[05:35] <Mixx> eft slithers
[05:35] <Efnian> Eroick, System -> Software Properties -> Add CD
[05:35] <pike__> earthen_: what sort of device does it show up when you issue the lsusb command?
[05:36] <Mixx> efts appear to be utterly unedgy creatures
[05:36] <Warbo> Anyone in here have problems with Epiphany crashing when it loads?
[05:36] <cluehammer> netselect
[05:36] <Roger_The_Bum> hey everybody type emacs -batch -l dunnet!
[05:36] <FoX_44470> A link for download Dapper ? the final release
[05:36] <earthen_> pike__, it a brodcom bluetooth device but i unpluged it and when I plug it back in it doesnot show up
[05:36] <nhaines> FoX_44470, 6.06 is not released yet.
[05:37] <FoX_44470> ok, thank's
[05:37] <Roger_The_Bum> nhaines: like in 8 hrs
[05:37] <MTecknology> what's probably the best rss reader for ff, and a good newsfeed?
[05:37] <K|NgGh0sT> How can I stop Kubuntu from displaying DISPLAY CHANGED: LCD ON,  every 4 mins
[05:37] <nhaines> FoX_44470, when it is released, you can find it at http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[05:37] <Roger_The_Bum> s/nhaines/fox_44470
[05:37] <earthen_> pike__, if I reboot it will show up but I'd like to know how to do it with out rebooting
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Anyone use frostwire?
[05:37] <Soir> FoX_44470: it'll be released as the rest of the world enters June 1, so not long to go :)
[05:37] <Warbo> MTecknology: I would not use one within firefox, I would use an external one
[05:37] <Roger_The_Bum> ><
[05:37] <word> When I start up Linux the Enterprise Volume manager fails to start so the booting stops...i have to skip it. I get this error repeatedly if I don't skip it - [####.####] Buffer I/O error on device dm-0 Logical block #####
[05:37] <keithg> Does anyone know how to reinstall grub?
[05:37] <Roger_The_Bum> oh my
[05:38] <Warbo> word: Sounds like a broken disk
[05:38] <a2xm> hi all... pls help.. how to resume the paused printer?
[05:38] <Roger_The_Bum> this sounds serious
[05:38] <MTecknology> Warbo, suggestion?
[05:38] <nhaines> keithg, run grub-install.  Might want to check the man page.  :)
[05:38] <earthen_> pike__, can you help me?
[05:38] <Warbo> MTecknology: Er... Hang on
[05:38] <keithg> nhaines:  Thanks.  :)
[05:38] <Efnian> cluehammer, they wouldn't be stacking rc's in the same folder as the official release.
[05:38] <Mixx> Efnian - why not?
[05:38] <intelikey> !tell keithg about boot
[05:38] <intelikey> !tell keithg about dualboot
[05:38] <Roger_The_Bum> god, I'm so impatient
[05:38] <pike__> earthen_: probably wont be much help there but.. if you sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart might work
[05:38] <a2xm> I did click resume printer but nothing happen
[05:38] <Soir> word: buffer i/o error? Was this device working before?
[05:38] <intelikey> !tell keithg about grub
[05:38] <word> Warbo: I tried to run gparted and it told me i had a bad sector but then after running partition magic on my windows partition it checked nad said everything was fine when i gave my linux part more space so...
[05:38] <cef> Efnian: pfft
[05:38] <Warbo> MTecknology: liferea seems to be popular (I don't use RSS though)
[05:39] <Roger_The_Bum> I want ubuntu so bad, it's spreading to other distros
[05:39] <word> It was working just prior to me running gparted and it finding a bad sector Soir
[05:39] <keithg> intelikey:  Thank you.
[05:39] <intelikey> keithg more than you ever wanted to know
[05:39] <word> But apparently now the bad sector is fixed :-/ Soir
[05:39] <intelikey> i can't use grub
[05:39] <DevilsAdvocate> hey, i just installed azureus 1.5 on ubuntu but for some reason it won't download anything properly. any ideas on why this might be? i'm pretty sure its set up properly. port are opened etc.
[05:40] <word> Click on Plugins - > IRC support
[05:40] <earthen_> pike__, ok I will try that
[05:40] <Efnian> Mixx, it's an rc.
[05:40] <Soir> word: That's little consolation ^^ What'd you do immediately before the problem, resize a partition?
[05:40] <paradon> DevilsAdvocate: Make sure you have Sun Java 1.5
[05:40] <word> DevilsAdvocate: Azureus has it's own irc support channel built in to the program
[05:40] <intelikey> it(grub) doesn't like my setup.
[05:40] <jay> alo
[05:40] <T313C0mun1s7> Any Crossover Office experts?
[05:40] <earthen_> pike__, that did it thanks
[05:40] <pike__> earthen_: np
[05:40] <a2xm> hi all... pls help.. how to resume the paused printer?
[05:40] <jay> np?
[05:40] <a2xm> I did click resume printer but nothing happen
[05:41] <word> Soir: Attempted to resize the partition it did a sector error check prior to doing anything ( I assume ) and then told me i had something wrong and then when i booted into linux i was confronted with this error
[05:41] <jay> loso
[05:41] <intelikey> a2xm open the printer control as root and click the resume
[05:41] <DevilsAdvocate> paradon: i tried installing 1.5 but for some reason when i do java --version it says it's 1.4
[05:41] <Soir> word: so nothing was written to the disk? or did PM attempt to 'fix' an error?
[05:42] <OmniD> 912!
[05:42] <Harold_P> Where'd all the dapper wanters go/
[05:42] <K|NgGh0sT> How can I stop Kubuntu from displaying DISPLAY CHANGED: LCD ON,  every 5 mins?
[05:42] <alex_> if i use debian mirrors to install software into ubuntu, do you think that something might break?
[05:42] <word> Soir: PM 'might' have attempted to fix the error...I'm not sure if I went into windows and ran chkdsk prior to going into linux which tried to correct something..gparted just refused to partition anything because of the error.
[05:42] <Twylo> I think we're all dapper wanters here.
[05:42] <nbx909> Harold_P, download ing it
[05:42] <nbx909> lol
[05:42] <pike__> K|NgGh0sT: might have better luck in the kubuntu channel
[05:43] <challahc> i just switched to compiz on dapper, it's awesome
[05:43] <nbx909> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570
[05:43] <a2xm> intelikey, ah.. as root.. i'll try.. thanks
[05:43] <nbx909> :)
[05:43] <K|NgGh0sT> .j $kubuntu
[05:43] <Harold_P> same here, nbx909
[05:43] <intelikey> K|NgGh0sT have you asked in #kubuntu
[05:43] <pike__> K|NgGh0sT: example: /j #kubuntu
[05:43] <K|NgGh0sT> ya ya ya
[05:43] <Hisakasex> how can I check if I have mail in queue
[05:43] <Hisakasex> ??
[05:44] <intelikey> type mail
[05:44] <earthen_> pike__, you would know how to configure a blutooth mouse would ya? :)
[05:44] <kaled> mailq
[05:44] <Efnian> cluehammer, regarding the link you gave... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ it's the same iso's.
[05:44] <DShepherd> how will we know when dapper will be be officiallly released. ops going to make the announcement?
[05:44] <Hisakasex> thanks
[05:44] <pike__> earthen_: not a clue sorry
[05:44] <MTecknology> Any suggestions for news feeds?
[05:44] <beniamino> can anyone advise how to connect to a 802..11b network with WPA2 under dapper?
[05:44] <Flannel> DShepherd: there will be announcements, and fanfare, and sacrifices of virgins, and...
[05:44] <earthen_> pike__, :( O well
[05:44] <Flannel> DShepherd: you'll know ;)
[05:44] <beniamino> iwconfig used to work for wep, but seems unaware of wpa2
[05:44] <DShepherd> Flannel: no.. not the virgins
[05:44] <bkh> Grr... I wish they'd put up the torrent, even without seeding it, so I could start it up and go to bed :)
[05:45] <earthen_> pike__, thanks anyway I'm one step further so it's a start
[05:45] <nhaines> bkh, they need the images to be ready before they can create a torrent.  ;)
[05:45] <DrSpin> Can anyone tell my why the cookie that gets set for the PHP Session does not display in Firefox??
[05:45] <Soir> word: this error sounds like it's more upstream, if it's a bug doing something - what's your disk setup? raid?
[05:45] <cef> bkr: heh
[05:45] <challahc> beniamino: have you used NetworkManager?
[05:45] <Viaken> Sacrifices of virgins? >.> Wouldn't that halve the population of the room? (ba-dum bum)
[05:45] <_Grout> think there putting it up at midnight?
[05:45] <DarkTower> beniamino: have a look in the packages, you need a package add on to handle wpa i believe
[05:45] <pike__> earthen_: well.. it might work by sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and going back through and setting up everything..
[05:45] <cluehammer> yar
[05:45] <intelikey> beniamino i can advise, that; there are some really good network adm's that hange in ##linux
[05:45] <word> No, regular one HD 80 gig 2 partitions.
[05:45] <bkh> Yeah, I know... grr...
[05:46] <beniamino> ok, will try ##linux, thanks
[05:46] <intelikey> np
[05:46] <disinterested_pe> virgins take to long to train
[05:46] <[1] Troy> hi.  i'm sure this hasn't been asked b4 - when is dapper coming out?
[05:46] <NoUse> !dapper
[05:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[05:46] <[1] Troy> heheh
[05:46] <intelikey> lol
[05:46] <Viaken> [1] Troy: Real Soon Now(TM)
[05:46] <nbx909> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570
[05:46] <Flannel> nbx909: stop it.
[05:46] <[1] Troy> i was kidding.
[05:46] <nbx909> it;s out
[05:46] <carlosqueso> that means in 8 hours, 12 minutes :-P
[05:46] <kaled> it's not
[05:46] <earthen_> pike__, that could be a option
[05:47] <Flannel> nbx909: no, thats not it.
[05:47] <KurtKraut> nbx909, we garantee you it is not.
[05:47] <Bung> anyone know any decent gui torrent apps lighter then azureus? and not something like ktorrent that needs the whole kdebase.
[05:47] <carlosqueso> wait, meant 18 hours, 12 minutes
[05:47] <ali> hello guys, i accidently removed the top gnome panel :-(( how do i get it back??
[05:47] <mcmahons> Bung: the gnome bittorent one is pretty light
[05:47] <disinterested_pe> gwaranteed
[05:47] <nbx909> Flannel, really? it's seems to be on most of the servers and then it's appearing on others gradually so it seems to be syncing
[05:47] <carlosqueso> right-click on the other I believe, and click add panel
[05:47] <Flannel> ali: right click, add panel, then drag it up top, right click, add to panel.
[05:47] <word> Soir: No, regular one HD 80 gig 2 partitions.
[05:47] <Viaken> Bung: freeloader is...servicable.
[05:48] <yappa> are they going to put the torrent on piratebay ;)
[05:48] <DarkTower> nbx909: thats probably rc
[05:48] <Flannel> ali: then add the stuff back (the menu bar, clock, etc)
[05:48] <Flannel> nbx909: thats a daily
[05:48] <kag> yappa: piratebay was raided today
[05:48] <wormsarm> hi !
[05:48] <nbx909> DarkTower, no the rc is labeled as an rc
[05:48] <Bilford> yappa, yeah, its there now
[05:48] <yappa> kag:  I know lol
[05:48] <Hisakasex> wich is the parameter that indicates the directory where the errors and warnings of resources/software are going to logged in
[05:48] <mecca> hey guys... how does one install a PCF font in Ubuntu?  theres no /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/lib/fonts dir :F
[05:48] <Hisakasex> ?
[05:48] <DarkTower> nbx909: then its the daily, marked daily
[05:48] <wormsarm> where can I donwload wine? but I dont want .14 i want .13 and I only can download .14
[05:48] <Soir> word: anything else come up in error about it? or just the buffer problem
[05:48] <nbx909> DarkTower, it's not marked daily
[05:48] <intelikey> Bung try apt-cache search torrent
[05:48] <yappa> I'm just being a smart ass as usual!
[05:48] <Efnian> nbx909, the non-rc is the latest daily, check the MD5 checksums.
[05:48] <Bung> mcmahons: ill check it out, i was hoping for one that still let you select files within the torrent
[05:49] <glick> scuse me, i really dig the ubuntu icon set, for dapper, but are they avaiable in any other color other then puke orange?
[05:49] <argpirate> if you are already running dapper beta yoou should just be able to upgrade like normal aye?
[05:49] <Bung> Viaken: freeloader? ok ill look at that too
[05:49] <DarkTower> nbx909: if it was out would there be 900 people here talking bout when its coming
[05:49] <jbroome> aye
[05:49] <intelikey>  apt-cache search    is your friend
[05:49] <Viaken> It won't do what you want, though.
[05:49] <Flannel> argpirate: yep
[05:49] <nhaines> glick, what are you eating if your vomit is orange?  :)
[05:49] <cef> Efnian: and you expect it to change from the last daily?
[05:49] <nbx909> Efnian, where are the daily md5s?
[05:49] <word> Just that if I skip it with ctrl+c there are no problems but otherwise i get those errors when it starts up the volume manager..is there anyway to try and reinstall just the vol manager to see if that would fix it?
[05:49] <nhaines> argpirate, correct.
[05:49] <word> Soir
[05:49] <Hisakasex> wich is the parameter that indicates the directory where the errors and warnings of resources/software are going to be logged in
[05:49] <glick> nhaines, captain morgan and oranges
[05:49] <jamesstansell> wormsarm: sourceforge.net supposedly has archives of the older wine versions
[05:49] <nhaines> glick, thatl do it!
[05:49] <Viaken> Bung: I use rtorrent, myself. It's semi-GUI (ncurses based), and has always worked very well for me.
[05:49] <majd> Hi, i've already installed LAMP before but it was very messy and i want you'r guys' input, what's the best, easiest way to install apache2/mysql/php? (I don't want to use a prepackage like LAMPP cause that just complicates things later on)
[05:50] <wormsarm> and how I compile them?
[05:50] <Roger_The_Bum> so... let me get this straight before I go to bed...
[05:50] <Flannel> !tell majd about lamp
[05:50] <Hisakasex> wich is the parameter that indicates the directory where the errors and warnings of resources/software are going to be logged in?
[05:50] <Bung> Viaken, does that have file selection? ... ah its ok, ill just google it, thanks again
[05:50] <majd> thanks
[05:50] <wormsarm> is a tar.bz2
[05:50] <Soir> word: You could try that, quick scans of the web seem to think that it can sometimes become touchy about the size of devices
[05:50] <Bilford> Is Microsoft afraid of Ubuntu
[05:50] <DarkTower> the orange colour is awesome
[05:50] <wormsarm> I use breezy
[05:50] <DarkTower> Bilford: Yes definitely
[05:50] <Viaken> Bung: freeloader doesn't. rtorrent does, I think.
[05:50] <majd> Flannel, is it any different under dapper?
[05:50] <glick> i dont like it
[05:50] <nhaines> Dapper's Human theme is so much nicer.  I got used to it.
[05:50] <Hisakasex> wich is the main.cf (postfix) parameter that indicates the directory where the errors and warnings of resources/software are going to be logged in?
[05:50] <Flannel> people complaining about orange?  heh, first brown, now orange.  What color would you be satisfied with? ;)
[05:50] <NickGarvey> I'm dieing here
[05:50] <glick> would be nice in blue
[05:50] <NickGarvey> I can't wait for dapper
[05:50] <intelikey> Hisakasex isn't that controled by sysklogd and klogd    set in /etc/something......
[05:50] <jamesstansell> wormsarm: I think they should have debs that work in breezy
[05:50] <dr_willis> Puce!
[05:50] <yappa> Bilford:  I doubt it.  There's a lot of people out there that are Windows Addicts.
[05:50] <nhaines> glick, then use Clearlooks.
[05:50] <Bung> Viaken: good to know, thanks !
[05:51] <Flannel> majd: not that I'm aware of.  Might be small filename differences, but essentially the same.
[05:51] <Bugs> NickGarvey: don't wait then, get it now...
[05:51] <Roger_The_Bum> OMG PONIES pink
[05:51] <nbx909> DarkTower, it's not the daily look how the daily one is labled
[05:51] <nbx909> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20060531/
[05:51] <Efnian> nbx909, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/MD5SUMS
[05:51] <majd> ok
[05:51] <Twylo> I've been running the RC, and it's been rock solid.  Very nice.
[05:51] <Hisakasex> the postfix config file is in /etc/postfix/
[05:51] <NickGarvey> no the full thing bugs
[05:51] <DarkTower> nbx909: convince everyone else talking bout when its coming that ots here
[05:51] <kaled> tried man postfix?
[05:51] <Bung> SNAKES ON A PLANE
[05:51] <DarkTower> !dapper
[05:51] <Roger_The_Bum> when is it coming out
[05:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[05:51] <Roger_The_Bum> give me a utc time
[05:51] <jbroome> snakes on a MF'ing plane!
[05:51] <Hisakasex> yes I did
[05:51] <majd> !ati
[05:51] <ubotu> from memory, ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:52] <Roger_The_Bum> I heard 8 hours ago
[05:52] <Hisakasex> but I'm confused
[05:52] <NickGarvey> thank you DarkTower
[05:52] <_Grout> what about 0:01 UTC
[05:52] <Bugs> NickGarvey:  not sure what you are referring to...i have been running it for awhile and it's brilliant - have you tried it ?
[05:52] <Roger_The_Bum> maybe
[05:52] <mecca> does Ubuntu not support PCF fonts?
[05:52] <FLeiXiuS> Dapper is out tomorrow eh?  Or...is it a specific time EST?
[05:52] <DarkTower> NickGarvey: wc
[05:52] <crimsun> release will be within the next 4-12 hours.
[05:52] <Bilford> it's already tomorrow
[05:52] <Bilford> it's 03:52
[05:52] <nbx909> DarkTower, the md5 sums match but it's named differently
[05:52] <T313C0mun1s7> So nobody that is good with Crossover Office isssues?
[05:52] <paradon> My wild-ass guess is 0700 UTC, since IIRC that's when Breezy came out.
[05:52] <jaime> nhaines sorry i closed the conversation i tried to fine you but  i cant so if you can talk to me on msn open the conversation again please
[05:52] <kaled> then try man postfix | grep -C 2 log
[05:52] <steveneddy> release of Dapper? is this MY time or system time?
[05:52] <Hisakasex> ok
[05:52] <Roger_The_Bum> all I know is, I'm going to leave at 7 AM ETC and I want a TORRENT
[05:52] <Healot> wait until Mark announce the release
[05:53] <crimsun> steveneddy: as of now.
[05:53] <NickGarvey> yeah.. so I think...
[05:53] <NickGarvey> I need to get my charger so I can keep my laptop on
[05:53] <Efnian> nbx909, i didn't notice the filename, interesting.
[05:53] <DarkTower> nbx909: THEN THEY ARE THE SAME
[05:53] <rredd4> Bilford, not here
[05:53] <Phuzion> Can someone tell me how to upgrade my distro easily with apt-get?
[05:53] <ggilbert> It probably is going to correspond to whenever the PR person gets up this morning :p
[05:53] <steveneddy> I just don't see it on the DL pages yet...
[05:53] <DarkTower> oops sorry for shouting all
[05:53] <Viaken> Roger_The_Bum: That'd be 12:00 UTC, so hopefully they'd have it out by then.
[05:53] <nbx909> DarkTower, that just means the daily build was the final build lol
[05:53] <RTB|Sleep> ok
[05:53] <Bilford> It doesnt really amtter if it's the final or not
[05:53] <RTB|Sleep> est? bien
[05:53] <Bilford> it will just download a few minor updates
[05:53] <nbx909> Efnian, yes i noted earlier when people were talking about it that the names don't match
[05:53] <RTB|Sleep> buenas noches
[05:53] <T313C0mun1s7> -Dapper will be released prior to midnight June 2nd in a timezone other than yours.
[05:54] <DarkTower> nbx909: sure
[05:54] <rredd4> Phuzion  apt-get distro-update
[05:54] <kaled> for finer grained logging, see ulogd
[05:54] <nbx909> DarkTower, what ever we will see then
[05:54] <cluehammer> hmmm i'm hungry
[05:54] <Bilford> I think the only difference between today's daily build and Final Release is about a few megs of extra updates to download
[05:54] <Phuzion> rredd4:  invalid operation
[05:54] <cluehammer> apt-get hamburger
[05:54] <majd> I marked the xorg-driver-fglrx package to be removed earlier and i can't seem to unmark it..any idea why?
[05:54] <Bugs> cluehammer:  lol
[05:55] <rredd4> Phuzion sudo apt-get distro-update
[05:55] <jamesstansell> wormsarm: the archive has .12 for breezy, but not .13
[05:55] <cef> nbx909: no, it means htat the daily build and the final build produce the same binary.
[05:55] <jamesstansell> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6241&package_id=174803
[05:55] <steveneddy> would it be easier to apt-get dist-upgrade or wait for the DL...nevermind..I'm installin it on another partition
[05:55] <Viaken> # emerge dapper
[05:55] <Viaken> Oh, sorry...wrong distro. XD
[05:55] <intelikey> Phuzion sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list (change all breezy to dapper) && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && echo success || echo failed.
[05:55] <JabberWokky> apt-get install June 1st, 2006
[05:55] <DrSpin> Viaken: LOL
[05:55] <nbx909> cef, is that suposed to be possible?
[05:55] <sloof3> Viaken: The only true package management
[05:55] <wormsarm> i'll try .12
[05:55] <NickGarvey> hahaha
[05:55] <cluehammer> !lart sloof3
[05:55] <intelikey> hmm could have used sed and done an enline edit.
[05:55] <cef> nbx909: create 2 .iso files at different times of exactly the same data
[05:56] <nbx909> cef, well then that means the daily build was the same exact thing as the final build lol
[05:56] <nbx909> i don't see your point
[05:56] <nbx909> lol
[05:56] <kaled> if Ubuntu there's pacakge named 'moo' in apt repositories, how do you install it with apt-get?
[05:56] <cluehammer> apt-get install moo
[05:56] <nbx909> kaled, sudo apt-get install moo
[05:56] <exclipy> sudo apt-get install moo
[05:56] <steveneddy> sudo apt-get moo
[05:56] <cef> nbx909: yeah, but that doesn't mean the build process wasn't performed twice - once for the daily, once for the final.
[05:56] <DarkTower> cef: i wouldnt bother. he's in on a big secret, the only person who knows its out
[05:56] <Flannel> nbx909: no, stop telling people that's out.  It's not.
[05:56] <steveneddy> nite all
[05:57] <nbx909> cef, yes
[05:57] <chapium> steveneddy: gnite
[05:57] <Viaken> Phuzion: You could also do sudo sed -i.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:57] <ChangerO1Sea> hey... how long until dapper comes out?
[05:57] <kaled> hmm, it won't work
[05:57] <jbroome> stab
[05:57] <cef> DarkTower: meh. I grabbed that about 4 hrs ago
[05:57] <nbx909> Flannel, what am i ttelling people i having told anyone else after you told me not to
[05:57] <Viaken> That keeps you from having to edit it by hand. :P
[05:57] <pike__> ChangerO1Sea: 14 days
[05:57] <cluehammer> i bet mark shuttleworth just dumps his cvs every couple of months and that's the new release :-), the artwork is probably whatever his kids have got on the fridge
[05:57] <nhaines> ! tell ChangerO1Sea about dapper
[05:57] <nbx909> they can look at digg
[05:57] <ubotu> nhaines: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:57] <ChangerO1Sea> pike__: what?
[05:57] <nhaines> !tell ChangerO1Sea about dapper
[05:57] <ChangerO1Sea> i thought it was coming out tonight
[05:57] <OmniD> lies
[05:57] <pike__> ChangerO1Sea: just kidding couple hours
[05:57] <cluehammer> nope, still in the closet
[05:57] <glick> so the ubuntu icons arnt available in any other color?
[05:57] <intelikey> Phuzion the fully automatic way.                                                                                      sed 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list > sources.list && sudo cp sources.list /etc/apt/ && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && echo success || echo failed.
[05:57] <Flannel> nbx909: shrug sorry, I haven't really been paying attention.  no use, with this crowd.
[05:57] <rredd4> Phuzion -->  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:58] <Bugs> hey, anyone use GIMPSHOP ?
[05:58] <JabberWokky> ChangerO1Sea: Your "tonight" isn't everybody elses.
[05:58] <MTecknology> What makes EMACS different from gedit?
[05:58] <nbx909> Flannel, that's why i was spaming it, i'm acually a very good irc user in smaller crowds lol
[05:58] <ChangerO1Sea> ok.. well its 1158 here now
[05:58] <Flannel> MTecknology: emacs is an OS.  gedit is a text editor
[05:58] <cluehammer> gedit isn't an operating system
[05:58] <Bugs> MTecknology:  asprin :)
[05:58] <ggilbert> MTecknology: Well, both can edit text. That's about where the similarities end
[05:58] <Viaken> intelikey: Was mine wrong? :P
[05:58] <Healot> emacs is old, cli-orirented...
[05:58] <ChangerO1Sea> so i have to wait how long?
[05:58] <JabberWokky> MTecknology: weevils.  And lots of extra keypresses.  Too much to answer in a line on IRC.
[05:58] <Chobo-Mog> hey, could someone explain what the differences are between 6.06 Flight-7 and LTS, please?
[05:58] <OmniD> gedit isn't an operating system?!?!?!
[05:58] <OmniD> MY LIFE IS A LIE
[05:59] <Viaken> ChangerO1Sea: However long it may take?
[05:59] <intelikey> Viaken no i just updated mine from the first time i answered.
[05:59] <cluehammer> emacs causes cancer, sterility, and carpal tunnel, gedit just does eyestrain
[05:59] <Bugs> cluehammer:  LOL
[05:59] <dr_willis> OmniD:  its not.. but emacs is. :P
[05:59] <yappa> I wonder if Dapper is already just waiting to go but they're holding off to build suspense.
[05:59] <sloof3> well?
[05:59] <Viaken> heh :) Just checking. I'm not a sed wizard yet, but I'm aspiring.
[05:59] <DarkTower> emacs is cooler
[05:59] <sloof3> It be 00:00
[05:59] <Flannel> Chobo-Mog: no differences, well, flight7 isn't the final release, still a beta.
[05:59] <MTecknology> JabberWokky, is emacs more of a programming tool?
[05:59] <Bugs> GimpShop ?  Anyone, anyone ???
[05:59] <cluehammer> i bet dapper is just a VERY belated april fools joke
[05:59] <T313C0mun1s7> but gedit is hotter
[05:59] <DShepherd> yappa: mmmm maybe
[05:59] <crimsun> yappa: no, we're waiting for the majority of mirrors to finish rsyncing.
[05:59] <DarkTower> MTecknology: yes more programming
[05:59] <cluehammer> nein, gvim
[05:59] <bobessutio> mirrors?
[05:59] <Healot> cluehammer: yeah a joke
[05:59] <MTecknology> ty
[06:00] <pike__> MTecknology: the only thing they really have in common is sucking when compared to vi :)
[06:00] <Flannel> MTecknology: no, they're both.  emacs has a lot of scriptability built in, which has caused people to go crazy and code everything in emacs script (games, browsers, etc).
[06:00] <DarkTower> pike__: lol
[06:00] <JabberWokky> MTecknology: emacs is a total environment, a la KDE or Gnome, but text oriented.  It has web browsers, games, pim software, quantuum mechanics tools, etc. (And I'm serious about the last -- that's what my fiance uses it for)
[06:00] <cluehammer> admittedly, i bet it wasn't just the scripting part of emacs that drove them batty
[06:00] <Flannel> JabberWokky: nah, it's an editor, just with scripting hooks.
[06:00] <DarkTower> JabberWokky: emacs is not like KDE or gnome, thats silly
[06:00] <Phuzion> Yeah umm, every time I try to do something among the lines of apt-get update or upgrade-dist, it fails saying couldn't stat source package list
[06:00] <Bugs> pike__:  incorrect, "vi" suck, "emacs" blows
[06:00] <Flannel> !offtopic
[06:00] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:00] <rredd4> cimsun, you said "we're"  are you part of the resyncing?
[06:00] <brett> Anyone know a good tool to convert AVI to MP4 (ipod)
[06:00] <Ademan> anyone know why i can only play one sound source at a time? like if i have rhythmbox up, nothing in firefox will play, and vice versa
[06:01] <cluehammer> lol
[06:01] <ggilbert> Someone did implement tetris in vim :p
[06:01] <MTecknology> is there any need for me to really learn to use emacs?
[06:01] <bkh> The icon for emacs is a kitchen sink for a very good reason
[06:01] <_Grout> !offtopic
[06:01] <nhaines> chobo: lots of live CD installer fixes.
[06:01] <cluehammer> Ademan because of the horror known as esd
[06:01] <DarkTower> MTecknology: if you want to program in it
[06:01] <bur[n] er> brett: if you find it, yell with some excitement, i've been curious ;)
[06:01] <esc_ape> does anyone know if rufus is allowed on oink?
[06:01] <intelikey> Phuzion pastebin your sources.list
[06:01] <crimsun> rredd4: as part of the development team.
[06:01] <ggilbert> MTecknology: not really. It's a nice program that you could learn, but there is no necessary reason
[06:01] <Ademan> cluehammer: whats wrong with it? should i use oss?
[06:01] <Viaken> Anyone in here played with bastet? XD That's some mean Tetris.
[06:01] <eigenlambda> lol... rly, a kitchensink?
[06:01] <Phuzion> intelikey:  how do I copy from PuTTY?
[06:01] <rredd4> crimsun cool!!
[06:01] <JabberWokky> DarkTower: It's an environment, complete with an application base.
[06:01] <Chobo-Mog> ahh...thanks
[06:01] <cluehammer> Ademan nah, you want to google dmix thouhg if you have breezy it should already be there
[06:02] <crimsun> dmix has been enabled as of breezy.
[06:02] <mister_roboto> Phuzion: you use sftp, included with the putty programs
[06:02] <crimsun> (except for usb)
[06:02] <intelikey> Phuzion mouse ?
[06:02] <cef> crimsun: .torrents would be nice for those already with the image *grin*
[06:02] <Ademan> i've got dapper... so...
[06:02] <brett> burner, plenty in windows... but linux converters seem hard to find
[06:02] <cluehammer> Ademan they stuffed esd on one channel and left another open, but some programs like to hog the sound device all to themselves
[06:02] <crimsun> cef: wouldn't they?
[06:02] <Phuzion> intelikey:  Yeah
[06:02] <ggilbert> What I'd personally love is a gvim with gnome-vfs support :p
[06:02] <T313C0mun1s7> gedit and emacs are the same: emacs was made because Stalman is a programmer, gedit was made because Stalman is a programmer - see, the same
[06:02] <Ademan> cluehammer: seems like just about everything
[06:02] <Chobo-Mog> I was just asking because I saw the flight-7 version online and I thought dapper had finally been released...i guess it was just the beta
[06:02] <cluehammer> Ademan dunno in dapper, isn't out yet
[06:02] <rredd4> does any one use a laptop with nvidia geforce 2?
[06:02] <bur[n] er> brett: you could try using wine
[06:02] <Phuzion> nevermind
[06:02] <Phuzion> figured it out
[06:03] <Flannel> Chobo-Mog: flight7 has ... been out for a few weeks now.
[06:03] <knanand> how to enable DMA for my IDE Device
[06:03] <khermans> knanand, hdparm
[06:03] <eigenlambda> emacs is the same as gedit?
[06:03] <Hmmmm> guys, how many hours till the dapper release?
[06:03] <Chobo-Mog> k
[06:03] <khermans> eigenlambda, no!
[06:03] <windex> Hmmmm: 24.
[06:03] <brett> I could... rather not... I have XP in VMware too...
[06:03] <khermans> eigenlambda, Thomas!
[06:03] <windex> Hmmmm: it'll be 24 until its released. :)
[06:03] <eigenlambda> khermans: kris!!
[06:03] <Hmmmm> windex, thanks, man thats a lnog time to have to wait
[06:03] <cluehammer> noooooo!
[06:03] <windex> Hmmmm: i know the feeling. :P
[06:03] <khermans> eigenlambda, how could you even comapre geidt and emacs!?!?
[06:03] <crimsun> be patient, the announcement's not that far off
[06:03] <khermans> lol
[06:03] <eigenlambda> khermans: wow, counting down to the release here?
[06:03] <cluehammer> i can't wait that long /me hyperventilates
[06:03] <eigenlambda> no, that's what they were doing
[06:03] <khermans> eigenlambda, yup. its a party
[06:03] <knanand> khermans: syntax for that??
[06:03] <Hmmmm> windex, out here in india its already 1st of june. 10 AM in fact
[06:03] <eigenlambda> ya
[06:04] <brett> I'm ripping young frankenstein at the moment  :)
[06:04] <bkh> When Jack Bauer manages to rescue the duck?
[06:04] <Viaken> brett: I'm sure there's a way to convert it in Linux, but I don't know how. It would probably amount to piping a decoder to an encoder, tho.
[06:04] <khermans> knanand, /etc/hdparm.conf
[06:04] <Bung> i installed the bittorrent and bittorrent-gui in synaptic. but when i try to run either from term, command not found... any ideas??
[06:04] <eigenlambda> maybe i should go out to amherst
[06:04] <T313C0mun1s7> eigenlambda: in may expample I forgot to point out that linux exists only because of Stalman
[06:04] <Vaske_Car> Please somebody post link to tutorial of how to install web server?
[06:04] <eigenlambda> with a 6pack
[06:04] <windex> Hmmmm: its 2pm in austraillia, where ubuntu's parent company is. it'll get here eventually. :)
[06:04] <eigenlambda> T313C0mun1s7: pretty much
[06:04] <cluehammer> btdownloadcurses file.torrent
[06:04] <intelikey> i'm gonna wait another week so you guys can report all the bugs and maybe they will have the first fix's by then.
[06:04] <khermans> eigenlambda, heh we're not really that nerdy
[06:04] <rredd4> crimsun do developers get an early release of final dapper?
[06:04] <lightstar> Vaske_Car, apt-get install apache2?
[06:04] <pike__> Vaske_Car: you mean like sudo apt-get install apache2 ?
[06:04] <cluehammer> dpkg -L bittorrent | most gives all ofthe files
[06:04] <Ademan> should dmix be in synaptic?
[06:04] <Vaske_Car> no
[06:04] <eigenlambda> i have all my stuff in a tarball
[06:05] <Hmmmm> windex, ya i guess i can wait. even tough im already running some beta of dapper i want the real thing
[06:05] <Vaske_Car> there is tutorial on WIKI
[06:05] <jobezone> rredd4: but they have to sign a NDA first!
[06:05] <khermans> Can i get an SMS notify when it is realeased so I dont have to sit in this channel?
[06:05] <Vaske_Car> but can not find it
[06:05] <disinterested_pe> im waiting for dapper till it hits my mail box
[06:05] <eigenlambda> and when dapper gets released, im wiping my drive and installing it
[06:05] <Hmmmm> anyone know what's the best way to backup mails in evolution?
[06:05] <cluehammer> Ademan no it's a setup for alsa, google it I don't remeber the file to edit offhand
[06:05] <ggilbert> Hmmmm: If you're using the beta of dapper, just upgrade. it'll be the same
[06:05] <Phuzion> http://pastebin.com/750566 there is my sources.list
[06:05] <jay> joined
[06:05] <intelikey> most ?
[06:05] <rredd4> jobezone they are paying $$
[06:05] <khermans> eigenlambda, yeah, i have a separate /home -- gonna just write over all other partitions
[06:05] <Hmmmm> ggilbert, i want to do a clean nstal lthis time over. too many tweaks and upgrades
[06:05] <jay> \yup
[06:05] <ggilbert> Hmmmm: you don't need to do a hull reinstall :)
[06:05] <Bung> i installed the bittorrent and bittorrent-gui in synaptic. but when i try to run either from term, command not found... any ideas??
[06:05] <T313C0mun1s7> So if I am already running a fully updated flight 7, will it automagically update to final?
[06:05] <intelikey> cluehammer | most ?
[06:05] <Chobo-Mog> argh...this suspense is killing me.   I'm still using Windows, since the previous version of Ubuntu wouldn't install properly, but I'm hoping that Dapper will work fine
[06:06] <tate> heh, I came to see if it was going to be a midnight release:-)
[06:06] <crimsun> Ademan: no, it's part of src:alsa-lib (binary:libasound2)
[06:06] <grv> same here
[06:06] <Vaske_Car> it goes something like Ubutu! tell me about apache ...
[06:06] <grv> im disappointed:(
[06:06] <Hmmmm> Bung, try instaling azureus
[06:06] <z4k4ri4> Could someone /msg me when dapper is *really* out?
[06:06] <Bung> hmmm, no thanks
[06:06] <sherlock-holmes> wher is it gonna release? any ideas? just joined
[06:06] <Hmmmm> sudo apt-get install azureus
[06:06] <JabberWokky> tate: It is for somebody's value of midnight.  :)
[06:06] <Bung> going for lightweight
[06:06] <jobezone> Bung: See in synaptic, the files installed by those packages.
[06:06] <ggilbert> T313C0mun1s7: Yes, if you were to update right nw You'd have more or less the final version
[06:06] <grv> yes true
[06:06] <knanand> khermans: what shud i do here??
[06:06] <pike__> Bung: there is always utorrent under wine
[06:06] <eigenlambda> khermans: i was gonna do that when i installed debian, but i figured, i was never going to reinstall
[06:06] <Bung> jobezone: ok ill doublecheck
[06:06] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Cool :)
[06:06] <Warbo> tate: That would be novel, a midnight release at 5:00
[06:06] <Ademan> crimsun: so if i have those libs i should be alright?
[06:06] <tate> I can't be too dissappointed, I can't install it yet
[06:06] <K|NgGh0sT> Whats the command to change owner of a file?
[06:06] <eigenlambda> khermans: i keep thinking, im never going to reinstall...
[06:06] <Phuzion> intelikey:  http://pastebin.com/750566 is my sources.list
[06:06] <sherlock-holmes> there is nothing in the update...just a pcmcia-cs
[06:06] <Warbo> K|NgGh0sT: chown
[06:07] <crys> The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) <- during an install; anybody here familiar with what causes that?
[06:07] <Bung> pike: not interested in running an app for emulation when there are plenty of linux torrent apps, thanks though
[06:07] <FunnyLookinHat> man how much longer!!!
[06:07] <Vaske_Car> Ubutu! tell Vaske_Car about web server
[06:07] <Hmmmm> guys, anyone know what's the best way to backup mails in evolution?
[06:07] <Vaske_Car> something like that
[06:07] <intelikey> looking
[06:07] <supyo> how do you make java work with firefox using Ubuntu live?
[06:07] <knanand> khermans: i think all lines here are commented by #
[06:07] <Warbo> K|NgGh0sT: chown user file
[06:07] <khermans> knanand, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA?highlight=%28dma%29
[06:07] <Viaken> WHere does Evolution store the mails?
[06:07] <khermans> knanand, always search the wiki first
[06:07] <jobezone> Bung: see the ones in /bin or /usr/bin .
[06:07] <Phuzion> Alright
[06:07] <T313C0mun1s7> I am up to date now - I assumed that because of the code freeze I would see many updates, but the last week I have seen several a day.
[06:07] <sherlock-holmes> not anymore
[06:07] <JabberWokky> FunnyLookinHat: Stop asking, or Mark will trun this distro around and drive you $HOME!
[06:07] <jobezone> Bung: Also see ktorrent, it's excellent!
[06:07] <khermans> Viaken, .evolution
[06:07] <Hmmmm> Viaken, it stores them in /home/user/.volution iirc
[06:07] <jobezone> Bung: has built-in search of torrents. Fast. Excelent.
[06:08] <Viaken> Then couldn't you cp ~/.evolution somewhere safe?
[06:08] <Hmmmm> Viaken, k thanks
[06:08] <Viaken> Add it as a cron job if you want periodic backups?
[06:08] <brett> When you install a program  with wine, where do you find the program files?
[06:08] <nhaines> T313C0mun1s7, there was no code freeze.  :)
[06:08] <khermans> i always recommend separate /home !!!
[06:08] <ggilbert> T313C0mun1s7: If you're up to date, then you have basically the release.
[06:08] <intelikey> Phuzion no sources there.... hehhe     add a line like this "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse"
[06:08] <pike__> brett: like /home/brett/.wine/drive_c/
[06:08] <nhaines> brett, it'll be in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files
[06:08] <sherlock-holmes> any change in the ubuntu artwork?
[06:08] <bkh> JabberWokky: If he does, we'll sick Brazen Bandersnatch on him
[06:09] <Hmmmm> found a good evolution backup link:- http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/03/how-to-backup-evolution/
[06:09] <nhaines> sherlock-holmes, not in the last day.
[06:09] <kambei> I'm trying to use the wine packages (0.9.14) and I'm having trouble with openGL.
[06:09] <T313C0mun1s7> Why has the art kept changing - like serveral times a day?
[06:09] <khermans> kambei, cedega
[06:09] <supyo> java, ubuntu live, firefox - possible?
[06:09] <nhaines> T313C0mun1s7, they had an external professional artist doing icons.
[06:09] <Bung> jobezone: not interested in installing all the kde deps for that, going for lightweight, thanks though
[06:09] <rredd4> sherlock-holmes there was an update yesterday
[06:09] <Phuzion> Same problem
[06:09] <jobezone> gaim should highlight messages with our nickname. It's hard to see if anyone is talking to mee.
[06:09] <intelikey> Phuzion then update and dist-upgrade.....  but i'd wait the 6 or so hours till the release is out.
[06:09] <Hmmmm> when does xubuntu a la dapper get released? wanted to see how much faster it runs than gnome
[06:09] <mnvl> did dapper come out yet?
[06:09] <kambei> I'm not interested in using cedega.  I would just like openGL to work with wine.
[06:09] <grv> nope
[06:09] <sherlock-holmes> really?.... i did that...didint notice any significant change
[06:09] <Viaken> Not yet, mnvl
[06:10] <jobezone> Bung: ok, but you're missing out, trust me.
[06:10] <rredd4> mnvl read the topic
[06:10] <JabberWokky> mnvl: Yes, but you missed it.
[06:10] <rredd4> lol\
[06:10] <Bung> jobezone: this laptop will overheat, ive tried it before
[06:10] <sherlock-holmes> i heard the release is gonna be late today....
[06:10] <Ademan> crimsun: so, is "alsa-base" the package i want? because i've already got that...
[06:10] <T313C0mun1s7> Oh, and I went and changed them ;-(   [and the background, and the usplach, and the log-in, and the wallpaper, and the cursors, etc . . .] 
[06:10] <Bung> thanks again
[06:10] <mnvl> when it does will the same servers that apt-get update uses get hammered?
[06:10] <jobezone> Bung: managed to use bittorrent?
[06:10] <intelikey> Phuzion any change to /etc/apt/sources.list   MUST be followed by an apt-get update or equlevent
[06:10] <sherlock-holmes> donno who decides the precise timings...
[06:10] <crimsun> Ademan: no, you already have alsa; it's installed & configured by default.
[06:10] <crimsun> Ademan: what's the issue?
[06:11] <Efnian> Alsa-base are belong to us.
[06:11] <Bung> jobezone: no, there are all these btdownloadgui and stuff, but they give errors, i cant find one in /usr/bin that will run
[06:11] <Vaske_Car> What does mean command aptitude ?
[06:11] <intelikey> lol equlevent
[06:11] <khermans> There's not handicapped people in the Ubuntu logo -- guess they aren't really people
[06:11] <intelikey> i'm on tonight,,,, aint i
[06:11] <Ademan> crimsun: only one program can play sound at a time
[06:11] <rredd4> Vaske_Car  man aptitude
[06:11] <crimsun> Ademan: cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:11] <Viaken> JabberWokky: That's what I was wondering. :P
[06:11] <T313C0mun1s7> There are no Albinos either, would you say the same?
[06:11] <grv> color schemes can actually make the topic not visible:/
[06:12] <grv> depending~__~
[06:12] <khermans> T313C0mun1s7, at leats one leper or something c'mon!!!
[06:12] <crimsun> Ademan: use pastebin.
[06:12] <Ademan> crimsun: sudo cat?
[06:12] <Ademan> oh
[06:12] <Ademan> ok
[06:12] <crimsun> Ademan: no, as your user.
[06:12] <Bung> Zambezi: you around?
[06:12] <lufis> Hi. How would I go about filing a feature request for Ubunu?
[06:12] <T313C0mun1s7> How about a pigmy
[06:12] <jobezone> Bung: that's weird... did you install from the repositories? If so, you could report that as a bug in launchpad.net .
[06:12] <nhaines> Phuzion, don't change your sources.list file.  If you want to upgrade to Dapper early, then just run gksudo update-manager -r
[06:12] <sherlock-holmes> there is no new information....i waited for nothing...man i am tired...
[06:13] <Bung> jobezone: i dunno, it was in synaptic, so i presume it was from repositories?
[06:13] <khermans> T313C0mun1s7, nahh
[06:13] <Phuzion> nhaines:  Server, running Bash
[06:13] <Ademan> crimsun: http://hstuart.dk/paste/view.aspx?id=4692a175-ee06-487e-b8d3-a8aebd6cef18
[06:13] <nhaines> Phuzion, oh, in that case it should be safe enough to change the sources.list.
[06:13] <T313C0mun1s7> I want to see a logo with three white males, there getting rare you know.
[06:14] <Ademan> T313C0mun1s7: HAHAHA
[06:14] <cluehammer> lol
[06:14] <crimsun> Ademan: you didn't create /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc* by hand, did you?
[06:14] <jobezone> Bung, yes, synaptic, apt-get, install from your configured repositories.
[06:14] <Bung> roger
[06:14] <Ademan> debian is enough of an elitist platform to have a white pride logo lol
[06:14] <matthew_w> Hey folks, what is a program I could use to clean up the audio track in a video file I have?
[06:14] <khermans> T313C0mun1s7, yeah theres only one -- but seriously if its for everyone, there should be a homeless guy in the logo or something
[06:14] <Ademan> crimsun: nope, all autoconfigured
[06:14] <Phuzion> nhaines:  Do you know anything about sources.list?
[06:14] <lufis> Is there any way I could file a feature request for Ubuntu?
[06:14] <sherlock-holmes> dont think so
[06:14] <nhaines> Phuzion, yes, I do.
[06:14] <jobezone> lufis: register at launchpad.net
[06:14] <JabberWokky> T313C0mun1s7: Google "Pep Boys"
[06:14] <crimsun> Ademan: and which apps are you testin?
[06:14] <T313C0mun1s7> Maybe the homeless gut can run it on one of those $100 laptops.
[06:15] <crimsun> testing^
[06:15] <intelikey> Phuzion did you see my post ?
[06:15] <lufis> jobezone: done and done. What then?
[06:15] <Phuzion> http://pastebin.com/750566 did I do anything wrong?
[06:15] <Phuzion> intelikey:  I must have missed it
[06:15] <Ademan> crimsun: rhythmbox + firefox (flash plugin and otherwise)
[06:15] <cluehammer> i bet you could run it on the $100 dollar laptop with windowmaker
[06:15] <intelikey> Phuzion add a line like this "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse"
[06:15] <jobezone> lufis: and file a bug report on the specific package you have a wish for (or first search if someone else has done it before, and comment on it, if you want).
[06:15] <dr_willis> cluehammer:  ran ubuntu on my P100 laptop with windowmaker. :P
[06:15] <khermans> Can we get a cell phone text message when the torrent is up?!?!?!?
[06:15] <Phuzion> Did that
[06:15] <Phuzion> Didn't work
[06:15] <crimsun> Ademan: flash is an awful test, since it's oss-only and hogs the sound device.
[06:15] <intelikey> Phuzion any change to /etc/apt/sources.list   MUST be followed by an apt-get update
[06:15] <khermans> Any SMS notification of Ubuntu release methods?
[06:15] <nbx909> khermans, you can use the daily build torrent
[06:15] <cluehammer> ahh windowmaker, the best 1993 had to offer
[06:16] <cluehammer> yar
[06:16] <crimsun> Ademan: use multiple simultaneous instances of aplay
[06:16] <khermans> nbx909, link?
[06:16] <nbx909> it's the same thing as the final build
[06:16] <lufis> jobezone: what if it's not a package, but a inclusion of a certain software?
[06:16] <cluehammer> as much fun as this is, i must sleep. night
[06:16] <Phuzion> intelikey:  Added the line, apt-get update and still fails
[06:16] <nbx909> khermans, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570
[06:16] <nhaines> khermans, use a favor from a friend?  :)
[06:16] <Vaske_Car> ""With the latest release, 6.06 LTS, the Ubuntu Server Edition..."" Where can I download that new version 6.06?
[06:16] <intelikey> Phuzion did you what error message ?
[06:16] <rredd4> Phuzion did you then type apt-get update
[06:16] <khermans> nhaines, favor??!
[06:16] <T313C0mun1s7> fluxbox - I have a 486 W/ 32Mb Ram running it (Under Ubantu server)
[06:16] <Phuzion> yes
[06:16] <nbx909> Khisanth, scroll down to edit 2
[06:16] <MTecknology> If the release of Dapper is 00:00GMT, and I am +6CST, does that mean it will be 06:00CST when I see it released?
[06:16] <nhaines> khermans, get him to check ubuntu.com and SMS you when it updates.
[06:16] <Ademan> crimsun: oh, ok
[06:16] <Khisanth> what am I editing?
[06:16] <Ademan> aplay?
[06:16] <khermans> nhaines, oh thats lame!!
[06:16] <nbx909> MTecknology, it's out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570
[06:17] <KurtKraut> Vaske_Car, at www.ubuntu.com after a few hours when this version will be released
[06:17] <Bilford> the release isnt 0000
[06:17] <jobezone> lufis: ahh.. good point, I don't know that. You mean a package not available in Main, Universe, or Restricted?
[06:17] <nhaines> khermans, it's guaranteed, though, if you have a good friend.  :)
[06:17] <FunnyLookinHat> MTecknology: CST is -6 GMT
[06:17] <KurtKraut> nbx909, it is not. These files are not the final version
[06:17] <MTecknology> o, so Dapper is supported in this channel now?
[06:17] <MTecknology> LOL, I stupid
[06:17] <nhaines> khermans, if you're in the US, I'll SMS you.
[06:17] <nbx909> KurtKraut, yes they are....
[06:17] <crimsun> Ademan: yes, from the terminal. ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''
[06:17] <T313C0mun1s7> JabberWokky: http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~rvm/pics/pepboys.jpg
[06:17] <Vaske_Car> KurtKraus, oh so its still in developement...
[06:17] <FunnyLookinHat> or wait
[06:17] <FunnyLookinHat> I am thinking GMT
[06:17] <jobezone> lufis: well, first see if it's in debian. If it's already in, it means it will be part of the next release (Not dapper).
[06:17] <FunnyLookinHat> ^_^
[06:17] <Phuzion> http://pastebin.com/750586
[06:17] <IcemanV9> MTecknology: CST? we're 6 hrs behind GMT
[06:17] <Phuzion> There ya go
[06:17] <Vaske_Car> How long is Server version supported?
[06:17] <Viaken> jobezone: lufis is gone.
[06:17] <MTecknology> ok
[06:17] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: 5 years.
[06:17] <intelikey> looking
[06:17] <jobezone> Viaken: Thanks!
[06:18] <Viaken> No worries! :)
[06:18] <khermans> Is Dapper officially out now?!?!
[06:18] <IcemanV9> actually CDT :P
[06:18] <KurtKraut> Vaske_Car, 5 years. Stop asking questions that you already know the answer :P
[06:18] <crimsun> khermans: does the topic say as much?
[06:18] <onkarshinde> khermans: Read the channel topic
[06:18] <matthew_w> Also, what the heck is up with sound in Ubuntu.  Every application is crashing like crazy whenever it needs the sound device, or, it can't find the sound device, so I have so start/kill ESD a million times before anything works.  What am I doing wrong?
[06:18] <Ademan> crimsun: aplay does work that way
[06:18] <FunnyLookinHat> matthew_w: are you using dapper or breezy?
[06:18] <crimsun> Ademan: then alsa & dmix are fine for your chipset.
[06:18] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, im a bit confused now... it say that Ubuntu is suported 18months..., is there separate server version that is suported 5 years?
[06:19] <nhaines> matthew_w, you should configure dmix correctly.
[06:19] <khermans> crimsun, no it doesnt -- ok so i'll change it
[06:19] <zcat[1] > Bah, it's been 1/6 here for over 16 hours already!!!
[06:19] <FunnyLookinHat> matthew_w: never had any issues liek that for dapper beta
[06:19] <onkarshinde> matthew_w: Instead of killing ESD everytime, prevent it from starting
[06:19] <T313C0mun1s7> Is that what my problem with Listen is tonight - I have to kill it every 5 minutes
[06:19] <nhaines> matthew_w, 6.06 fixes this problem in most cases.
[06:19] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: -desktop is 3 years. -server is 5 years.
[06:19] <intelikey> Phuzion drop the us.  maybe and try again
[06:19] <MTecknology> Could not download all repository indexes - http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr/./Release: No MD5Sum entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/people.ubuntu.com_%7ejbailey_snapshot_bzr_._Release
[06:19] <MTecknology> what's wrong?
[06:19] <Ademan> crimsun: then what do i do about flash? grin and bear it? or can i install oss and make it play nice with esd? or what?
[06:19] <crimsun> Ademan: install alsa-oss from universe, and use ``aoss firefox''
[06:19] <intelikey> Phuzion or add a nl.  or something
[06:19] <crimsun> and go write a nasty e-mail to macromedia/adobe
[06:20] <DBO> I write two every week =)
[06:20] <Phuzion> Same problem
[06:20] <intelikey> Phuzion that is not a sources.list error.  that is a network error.
[06:20] <Ademan> crimsun: what did you mean by the second part? is that... the command to start up firefox?
[06:20] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, how do I download server version??? I tried here http://www.ubuntu.com/download but it offer standard 5.10 version, it does not say that it is server version...  ?????
[06:20] <khermans> crimsun, it seems to be in that .pool directory!
[06:20] <FunnyLookinHat> Vaske_Car: try going to the links from ubuntu.com concerning the server..
[06:20] <KurtKraut> Vaske_Car, server version is for Ubuntu Dapper (codenome of 6.06)
[06:21] <FunnyLookinHat> if those don't work it's becaues it's not relased
[06:21] <Phuzion> I forgot to set my network settings totally
[06:21] <KurtKraut> Vaske_Car, codename I mean
[06:21] <rredd4> intelikey maybe Phuzion can use apt spy
[06:21] <matthew_w> Ah good, Dapper's out soon.  I'll just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade soon
[06:21] <intelikey> rredd4 yeah
[06:21] <Viaken> Phuzion: Then that might be your problem. ;)
[06:21] <FunnyLookinHat> but I want my ISOs now before i go to bed
[06:21] <matthew_w> Also - hey, will that give me ALL of the new stuff in Dapper, because, when I upgraded to Breezy, I missed some stuff that would have been installed had I used the CD's/
[06:21] <crimsun> Ademan: yes
[06:21] <nhaines> matthew_w, use Upgrade Manager.  :)
[06:22] <pjw> Will the new version of Ubuntu include a flash plugin for AMD64?
[06:22] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: it hasn't been released yet.
[06:22] <matthew_w> nhaines; where's that located?
[06:22] <crimsun> pjw: no
[06:22] <Vaske_Car> So 5.10 is still stadard version and new version will be called  Ubuntu Dapper
[06:22] <Vaske_Car> now i understand
[06:22] <Phuzion> How do I tell ifconfig what my router address is?
[06:22] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: correct
[06:22] <onkarshinde> pjw: No
[06:22] <nhaines> matthew_w, System>Administration
[06:22] <Meshezabeel> all you have to do is: apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[06:22] <matthew_w> Ah
[06:22] <matthew_w> Thanks
[06:22] <crimsun> khermans: To what are you referring?
[06:22] <nhaines> Vaske_Car, the new version will be called 6.06 LTS
[06:22] <Vaske_Car> crimsun, any idea when it will be released?
[06:22] <zcat[1] > what's LTS stand for?
[06:22] <rredd4> Meshezabeel  to hard for you?!
[06:22] <onkarshinde> Vaske_Car: Wrong. Once dapper is released latest stable version will be 6.06
[06:22] <crimsun> zcat[1] : long term support
[06:22] <JabberWokky> zcat[1] : Long Term Support
[06:23] <zcat[1] > Ahhhhh..
[06:23] <czambran> Seveas: any development on the release?
[06:23] <crimsun> Vaske_Car: sometime in the next 8-12 hours, most likely
[06:23] <nhaines> !tell Vaske_Car about dapper
[06:23] <MTecknology> There going to be a shit load of updates the first few weeks for dapper?
[06:23] <Meshezabeel> rredd4, yeah, it is a bit hard, I'm just glad I don't have to type sudo or something silly like that!
[06:23] <pjw> onkarshinde: when will it be?
[06:23] <Meshezabeel> ;)
[06:23] <zcat[1] > In another 8 hours is will be 2/6 here !!
[06:23] <nbx909> for those who don't think that http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570 is the latest stable verson here is a screen shot of it running in vmware http://kimages.be/share/87459560.png i
[06:23] <intelikey> i just was using hoary, and so i uninstalled ubuntu-base and did a dist-upgrade to dapper skipping breezy  and i don't reccomend that anyone else try that... but it worked well.
[06:23] <onkarshinde> pjw: Sometime today
[06:23] <crimsun> pjw: it's difficult to release something that doesn't exist!
[06:23] <Bilford> best guess for release time is in 2 hours 37 minutes
[06:23] <Viaken> !tell Viaken about dapper
[06:23] <meddlepal> Hey, when Dapper is released, just wondering what command I should execute to download and install? Is it going to be the same update-manager -d switch as with the RC?
[06:23] <rredd4> Meshezabeel  are you root, if not type sudo
[06:23] <Viaken> well that wasn't helpful. lol
[06:23] <MTecknology> !Dapper
[06:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[06:23] <z4k4ri4> Dapper will be released on 6:06, the question is in what timezone :)
[06:24] <czambran> meddlepal: you shouldn';t need the 'd' switch
[06:24] <crimsun> Bilford: that's pretty optimistic, considering our core-devs will still be asleep.
[06:24] <nhaines> nbx909, the betas have looked like that for the last two weeks.
[06:24] <MTecknology> lol
[06:24] <onkarshinde> z4k4ri4: Read ubotu reply
[06:24] <khermans> crimsun, guess i am wrong -- maybe Dapper will be out at 3:53 accroding to the .pool directories on the releases.ubuntu.com site
[06:24] <ajax4> Its 6/6 on the East Coast :)
[06:24] <PrimoTurbo> Can anyone confirm that .pool is the same as the final?
[06:24] <Bilford> crimsun, they should still be up partying
[06:24] <ajax4> Err, 6/1 that is.
[06:24] <intelikey> Phuzion why do you have breezy cd in that list ?
[06:24] <Flannel> PrimoTurbo: it's not.
[06:24] <intelikey> oooops
[06:24] <khermans> crimsun, since it seems to be uploaded very frequently around that time
[06:24] <JabberWokky> ajax4: I was wondering "East coast of *what* is 6/6?!??!"
[06:24] <Flannel> PrimoTurbo: its todays daily build
[06:25] <PrimoTurbo> I see
[06:25] <rredd4> intelikey Phuzion (i=Phuzion8@69-168-170-76.clvdoh.adelphia.net) has left #ubuntu
[06:25] <nbx909> nhaines, they said thank you for your interest in ubuntu released in june 2006?
[06:25] <PrimoTurbo> man this is annoying I see a thread about the final
[06:25] <ajax4> Jabber: hehe, typo!
[06:25] <Vaske_Car> Here is why i ask about server version: If i run server with 5.10 after 3 years I will not be able to update it no more, right?
[06:25] <intelikey> rredd4 see the oooops ?
[06:25] <T313C0mun1s7> I Know EXACTLY when it will be released!! I am just not telling (other wise what fun is being omnipotent)
[06:25] <crimsun> khermans: the timestamps from publisher mean nothing until the released is announced.
[06:25] <nhaines> nbx909, yes.
[06:25] <zcat[1] > JabberWokky: east coast are a little lagged at the moment I guess :)
[06:25] <TiG4> http://ubuntu.youaremighty.com   <--- This Is Great!
[06:25] <Bilford> Mark Shuttleworth went to the INternational Space Station
[06:25] <nbx909> nhaines, okay then my bad
[06:25] <Flannel> Vaske_Car: security updates, right.  You can still use it, and still upgrade it to a later version.
[06:26] <rredd4> intelikey oops...
[06:26] <nbx909> nhaines, i guess we will see when the stable verson is released if i was right
[06:26] <rredd4> lol
[06:26] <intelikey> :)
[06:26] <khermans> crimsun, is there a HOWTO on the release process?  Do they say what special testing is done to the final ISOs and things like this?
[06:26] <Meshezabeel> Dapper will be released on at 06:06:06am
[06:26] <nhaines> nbx909, the release candidate one week ago was an attempt to make a gold copy of 6.06, so, we have to wait until the announcemtn.  :)
[06:26] <khermans> to ensure like not major flaws in the release, like a bad image
[06:26] <Bilford> why is everyone waiting?  the final release wont be much different than the latest build
[06:27] <KurtKraut> TiG4, fantastic :P
[06:27] <grv> because it will be *official*
[06:27] <Bilford> you might have to download 2 mb of updates
[06:27] <khermans> Meshezabeel, that would be sweet 666
[06:27] <ajax4> Bilford: This will be my first time running Ubuntu, so I figured I'd wait for the final release.
[06:27] <T313C0mun1s7> Ok, Ok - it will be sometime after the thousands of hungry mirrors are done syncing, or just after you give up and go to bed (which ever comes last)
[06:27] <Meshezabeel> khermans, oh no, the end has come!!!
[06:27] <jtd> hi, guys!
[06:27] <intelikey> rredd4 you may catch me doing that a lot.  i generally lag several seconds do to using all my band-narrowness
[06:27] <Flannel> Bilford: most of us want to start serving up torrents, to share the wealth.  I know I'm not downloading to install, just to mirrow.
[06:27] <Soir> Bilford: ISOs, maybe?
[06:27] <zcat[1] > khermans: I think they should have delayed five more days, just for the coolness factor of releasing at 06:06:06 06/06/06
[06:27] <bimberi> Bilford: shhhh, you're spoiling their fun :P
[06:27] <jtd> can someone give me a brief rundown on how well the x86-64 version of Ubuntu works at the moment?
[06:27] <nhaines> Bilford, for example, the kids' computer is not connected to the Internet, so I am waiting for a final CD to burn to take over and do updates.
[06:27] <Bilford> ok sorry
[06:27] <jtd> (if the answer is "poorly," say no more ;)
[06:28] <rredd4> intelikey i see, i have a .1s lag
[06:28] <rredd4> cable
[06:28] <paradon> jtd: Not very, if you want stuff like Java, Flash, and windows media codecs.
[06:28] <windex> Bilford: this hardware has never run linux nativley.. i'd rather use something as polished as possible/
[06:28] <khermans> zcat[1] , anything is still possible!
[06:28] <jtd> paradon: good to know.  Thanks.
[06:28] <zcat[1] > nah, no more unexpected delays.. it's not vista!!
[06:28] <rredd4> intelikey would a different server help...
[06:28] <Bilford> windex, you like things clean and shiny
[06:28] <intelikey> rredd4 i can't speek of 'band-width' on a 28k modem.
[06:28] <Viaken> jtd: But you can run those things in a chroot, with varying degrees of success.
[06:28] <khermans> Vista looks pretty cool -- too bad it sucks
[06:28] <intelikey> rredd4 it's band narrowness
[06:28] <T313C0mun1s7> JTD unless you need TONS of memory access - stick with 32 bit, there are too many things still not supported
[06:28] <intelikey> :)
[06:29] <rredd4> intelikey  ok, 28k eye eye...
[06:29] <bkh> From what I've seen, Vista has nothing over XGL.
[06:29] <FoX_44470> Microsoft powwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh ! ;)
[06:29] <FoX_44470> lol
[06:29] <DShepherd> what; keep the dapper duck so long?
[06:29] <Viaken> \o/ XGL rox!
[06:29] <jtd> I just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'd when the last time I did it was a few days ago, and only 4 packages were updated.  they must be doing well.
[06:29] <khermans> bkh, yeah XGL rocks man, i love it
[06:29] <jtd> Viaken: what do you mean by running things in a chroot?
[06:29] <Bilford> whats XGL
[06:29] <intelikey> rredd4 only upside, i'm DoS immune
[06:29] <Vaske_Car> ok i am downlaoding 6.06 :)
[06:29] <bkh> XGL seems to work great for me, but Compbiz doesn't like me
[06:29] <jtd> T313C0mun1s7: You get no speed advantage from running 64-bit binaries?
[06:29] <crimsun> khermans: there is a testing page, yes. Some of the issues encountered are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseRadar
[06:30] <Bilford> does Kubuntu use XGL
[06:30] <grv> xgl, the 3d desktop
[06:30] <Viaken> Bilford: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XGL
[06:30] <Bilford> ty
[06:30] <zcat[1] > DShepherd: it's tied up in duck tape..
[06:30] <Hisakasex> how can I check sent mail by postfix?
[06:30] <bkh> XGL is a new system that renders your whole desktop through OpenGL, so you can do all sorts of crazy things
[06:30] <rredd4> intelikey  how do you upgrade to dapper then, friends?  cd?
[06:30] <T313C0mun1s7> JTD only if the binary is native 64bit and VERY FEW are. Even then it is minimal
[06:30] <grv> like watch porn upsidedown
[06:30] <grv> on a cube
[06:30] <Hisakasex> what's the command to check sent mail by postfix?
[06:30] <bkh> Like wobbly windows, desktop switching on a 3d cube, all good stuff
[06:30] <no0ke> what's LTS?
[06:30] <Hisakasex> sorry for my english
[06:30] <intelikey> rredd4 that's what eat all the band-narrowness  :)
[06:31] <IcemanV9> !LTS
[06:31] <ubotu> lts is, like, totally, Long Term Support. LTS versions will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[06:31] <Viaken> jtd: Trying to find you a link.
[06:31] <rredd4> intelikey  must take hours
[06:31] <Bung> has anyone here got opera to work with an application for opening files?
[06:31] <Meshezabeel> ah, thought it was Linux Terminal Server ;)
[06:31] <jtd> T313C0mun1s7: so on my Athlon64 I am much, much better-off running normal 32-bit Ubuntu.
[06:31] <zcat[1] > 'late to servers' -- they delayed it 6 weeks...
[06:31] <Vaske_Car> CentOS 4 is suported till 2018
[06:31] <rendo> When 6.06 is released for download, does anyone recall from 5.10's release if the servers will be slow?
[06:31] <haloe> hey
[06:31] <Bung> i set opera to use qtorrent for torrents, but it loads qtorrent, and no torrents display
[06:31] <P0ldy> It's best to use a torrent to download
[06:31] <intelikey> yeah i let it run while i code or chat or what ever. rredd4
[06:31] <zcat[1] > I'll torrent it...
[06:32] <haloe> have you ever tried azureus or bitcomet
[06:32] <jtd> rendo: BT is your friend :)  and I don't mean British Telecom.
[06:32] <haloe> ???
[06:32] <Meshezabeel> azureus is pretty good
[06:32] <Vaske_Car> How does torrent work?
[06:32] <pjw> Does the alternate version include a ncurses installer?
[06:32] <IcemanV9> torrent will go fast as everyone will torrent iso's
[06:32] <rendo> I know what BT is, I assume that means yes to my question. :P
[06:32] <onkarshinde> haloe: azureusis really good
[06:32] <jtd> BitComet is crap.
[06:32] <T313C0mun1s7> JTD: Here is my thread on my headaches with 64bit and why I changed: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180600
[06:32] <jtd> Avoid it.
[06:32] <haloe> yeah :)
[06:32] <Meshezabeel> Vaske_Car, don't worry about torrent, you are already downloading 6.06
[06:32] <P0ldy> Yes, please don't use BitComet
[06:32] <haloe> BitComet is crap?
[06:32] <zcat[1] > how many bits could a bit torrent torrent if a bit torrent could torrent bits?
[06:32] <no0ke> when's it coming out???????????????????????
[06:32] <rredd4> gee, I love my cable internet!!
[06:32] <Vaske_Car> I do, it need 50 minutes
[06:32] <cef> zcat[1] : heh
[06:33] <onkarshinde> no0ke: sometime today
[06:33] <jtd> BitComet, last I checked, breaks private torrent protection, which causes some trackers to reject you when you use it.
[06:33] <intelikey> zcat[1]  forty five!
[06:33] <bimberi> no0ke: /topic
[06:33] <haloe> zacat[1] : how many bits could a bit torrent torrent if a bit torrent could torrent bits?
[06:33] <jtd> T313C0mun1s7: Molto grazie.
[06:33] <z4k4ri4> If you already running dapper beta it's better to use jigdo
[06:33] <haloe> copypaste lol
[06:33] <haloe> hahaha
[06:33] <Meshezabeel> if a bit torrent could torrent bits, the bits that a bit torrent could torrent bit if a torrent bit torrent torrents bits
[06:33] <onkarshinde> I am using jigdo. I had beta and then RC
[06:33] <bkh> Torrential
[06:33] <intelikey> zcat[1]  ever hear the expression "ask a stupid question, get a ....."    :)
[06:33] <blanky> Meshezabeel, where'd you copy that from
[06:33] <pjw> The alternate version == the old install version?
[06:34] <pjw> ?
[06:34] <Toma-> what does LTS stand for?
[06:34] <rendo> So is it released yet or no?
[06:34] <no0ke> !lts
[06:34] <z4k4ri4> pjw: yes
[06:34] <ubotu> I guess lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[06:34] <haloe> Bung: hello
[06:34] <P0ldy> BitComet also favors peers using the same client, and sends so many junk packets that you could upload 1.5 of a torrent and not get the full copy out
[06:34] <T313C0mun1s7> By the way for anyone wanting to know why NOT to run 64 bit this is a excellent thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180600
[06:34] <Meshezabeel> blanky, my twisted mind
[06:34] <blanky> !yourmom
[06:34] <ubotu> blanky: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:34] <onkarshinde> pjw: right
[06:34] <haloe> :O
[06:34] <blanky> lol
[06:34] <blanky> brb
[06:34] <rredd4> !LTS
[06:34] <ubotu> I guess lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[06:34] <Vaske_Car> will 6.06 beta bupdate itself to final version when released?
[06:34] <Toma-> i c
[06:34] <nhaines> Vaske_Car, yes.
[06:34] <OmniD> I refuse to use Ubuntu unless I have mouse trails
[06:34] <zcat[1] > !botsnack
[06:34] <ubotu> thanks zcat[1]  :)
[06:34] <OmniD> I MUST BE SATISFIED
[06:34] <Vaske_Car> :)
[06:34] <eigenlambda> OmniD: lol!
[06:34] <pjw> z4k4ri4: so, Does it include an installer with ncurses?
[06:34] <khermans> OmniD, you can enable them
[06:34] <eigenlambda> lol @ mouse trails
[06:34] <haloe> hey zcat[1] 
[06:35] <OmniD> oh sweet. I was joking but hey might as well do it.
[06:35] <haloe> I want to show you something funny
[06:35] <khermans> OmniD, yea yer dum
[06:35] <zcat[1] > the new live-cd GUI installer is sweet...
[06:35] <khermans> lol
[06:35] <eigenlambda> lol
[06:35] <OmniD> :c
[06:35] <z4k4ri4> pjw: yes
[06:35] <Bilford> mouse trails are the reason why I switched to Ubuntu
[06:35] <jtd> P0ldy: I actually didn't know that about BitComet with the whole "favoring peers with same client" thing.
[06:35] <Meshezabeel> yes, that's why most people don't want to switch to linux, because they lose the important things like mouse trails
[06:35] <eigenlambda> Viaken: it's not all its cracked up to be
[06:35] <zcat[1] > mouse trails? important?
[06:35] <Bilford> actually, I use Kubuntu
[06:35] <sally__> if the live cd has an installer, why should I not download the live cd?  what advantages does the non-live cd have
[06:35] <jtd> what's esspresso?
[06:35] <JabberWokky> zcat[1] : If you're visually impaired, they are.
[06:36] <eigenlambda> just get a coolatta-type drink.  those are good.
[06:36] <zcat[1] > perhaps on a crap old 386 laptop, but who the hell needs mousetrails these days?
[06:36] <Vaske_Car> does anybody running Invision Power Board from home?
[06:36] <rendo> So is it released yet or no?
[06:36] <intelikey> eigenlambda we shoul code something called "mouse droppings"   that will leave mouse pills in the corner of the screen if the mouse is idle for very long....  :)
[06:36] <haloe> :O
[06:36] <eigenlambda> espresso is a smal cup of coffee
[06:36] <crimsun> Meshezabeel: dude, ponies are way more important than mouse trails, and vista has ponies, so I'm going with vista.
[06:36] <orbin> sally__: only the dapper live cd has an installer.  previous version did not
[06:36] <grndslm> sally)), the only reason you'd need to use the live cd is for an older computer...in which case you should try xubuntu instead of ubuntu
[06:36] <jtd> eigenlambda: I know that :)  I thought "esspresso" was a program.  Heh.
[06:36] <Viaken> eigenlambda: Well, I haven't heard any of the cracking up, so I can't be let down. ;)
[06:36] <eigenlambda> intelikey: eww!!
[06:36] <bimberi> sally__: specialised install methods (oem, expert, server)
[06:36] <zcat[1] > OMFG!!! Ponies!!!
[06:36] <sally__> bimberi: thanks
[06:36] <grndslm> sally__, scuze me, i meant install cd
[06:36] <eigenlambda> you mean, like phosphor burn-in?
[06:36] <bimberi> sally__: yw :)
[06:37] <nhaines> jtd, the installer is called Ubiquity, not expresso any longer.  ;)
[06:37] <Viaken> crimsun: Ponies??
[06:37] <haloe> lol
[06:37] <eigenlambda> lol
[06:37] <Meshezabeel> crimsun, they used to think no one would ever need more than 64k of mouse trails, but no, we need more of them!!!
[06:37] <Xore> Ponies are so 2 months ago
[06:37] <Toma-> anyone tried the kubuntu RC? is it rock solid?
[06:37] <jtd> I have a question about xfce on Ubuntu (xubuntu).  When you install packages, will apt-get install icons in xfce's menus the way it does for KDE and Gnome?
[06:37] <zcat[1] > Ubuntu 6.06 .. now with PONIES!!
[06:37] <Bilford> lol
[06:37] <eigenlambda> ubuntu- the canonical desktop linux
[06:38] <jtd> OMG!!!!!  PONIES!!!!@!212
[06:38] <DShepherd> Toma-: as in #kubuntu
[06:38] <Vaske_Car> Where can I read new stuff implemented in 6.06?
[06:38] <zcat[1] > sudo apt-get install xteddy
[06:38] <Bung> haloe: yes?
[06:38] <DShepherd> ask*
[06:38] <T313C0mun1s7> I HAVE mounse trails - they go from the corner to under the couch
[06:38] <eigenlambda> i liked the pink slashdot theme
[06:38] <eigenlambda> T313C0mun1s7: lol
[06:38] <onkarshinde> Vaske_Car: what do you mean by this?
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Toma-: It's been stable since Flight 6
[06:38] <zcat[1] > I wonder if I can put a pony image into xteddy.. hafta look into that
[06:38] <eigenlambda> these kids in my suite this semester...
[06:38] <shrewd> guys for pentium D (EM64) do i grab the amd64 dapper release or no?
[06:38] <P0ldy> New slashdot redesign is an improvement
[06:38] <eigenlambda> ...they had a mouse in their room
[06:38] <rredd4> hello from Alicia
[06:38] <eigenlambda> it was eating their cheese balls
[06:38] <wulax> wow, 2 mb/s when downloading dapper iso. great.
[06:38] <Bilford> shrewd, it's not out yet
[06:38] <eigenlambda> that weren't covered
[06:38] <DShepherd> P0ldy: very much so
[06:38] <Vaske_Car> onkarshinde, what will be new in 6.06 comparing to 5.10
[06:38] <DShepherd> P0ldy: i like it
[06:39] <shrewd> Bilford: thanks for that, i'll wait :(
[06:39] <jtd> shrewd: general agreement seems to be "no."  not worth the marginal speed boost for almost all applications.
[06:39] <nhaines> Vaske_Car, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperrc
[06:39] <eigenlambda> dumb kids... having uncovered food in their room...
[06:39] <onkarshinde> Vaske_Car: search for release notes on wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:39] <Toma-> shrewd: id say stick with x86. youll be able to use flash, w32codecs and so on
[06:39] <jtd> shrewd: I actually just asked a similar question :)
[06:39] <P0ldy> DShepherd, I prefer the runner up, but anything short of ponies is better than what it is now
[06:39] <crimsun> well obviously edgy will have ponies...
[06:39] <Vaske_Car> With Ubuntu 6.06 LTS RC comes many bug fixes, improved artwork, and general fixes all around.
[06:39] <DShepherd> P0ldy: the runner up is good but i like the winner
[06:39] <nhaines> Vaske_Car, keep reading.
[06:39] <FoX_44470> Dapper is now released ! :D For the link, sent me 1000$
[06:40] <jtd> so why is there all this bitching from the Debian project about the Ubuntu project?  What's the real story there?
[06:40] <Bilford> sudo apt-get install ponylib
[06:40] <intelikey> why is fortune-mod part of the default server ?
[06:40] <wulax> crazy crapper
[06:40] <Vaske_Car> Note: This is still a development release. Do not install it on production machines. The final stable version will be released in June of 2006.
[06:40] <DShepherd> crimsun: jamaican ponies too:-)
[06:40] <DaSkreech> haloe: You forgot to .configure
[06:40] <jtd> Bilford: heh
[06:40] <P0ldy> FoX_44470, expect a payment from my nigerian friend soon
[06:40] <haloe> lol
[06:40] <Vaske_Car> Is this the one that we downloading
[06:40] <T313C0mun1s7> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180600  Why I chose not to run x63 on a Athlon 64 X2 4200+
[06:40] <cluehammer> any news? or should i just say screw it and go to bed?
[06:40] <eigenlambda> debian purists wish debian could be ubuntu
[06:40] <Meshezabeel> I hear that they are going to beef up ship-it to ship a hard copy of the Internet to the first 6006 people that order Ubuntu CDs.
[06:40] <DShepherd> FoX_44470: can i write u a check
[06:40] <eigenlambda> ...i wish ubuntu had been debian
[06:40] <DShepherd> ?
[06:40] <jtd> 63-bit processors?
[06:40] <jtd> wow.
[06:40] <haloe> anyone want to make things easier
[06:40] <onkarshinde> cluehammer: better go to bed
[06:40] <haloe> 64?
[06:40] <cluehammer> debian: would you like some fries with that 1337ism
[06:40] <cluehammer> night all
[06:40] <haloe> 63 is obsolete
[06:40] <eigenlambda> my dad used to work on 36-bit processors...
[06:40] <Meshezabeel> eigenlambda, ubuntu was debian ;)
[06:41] <haloe> lol
[06:41] <intelikey> cluehammer
[06:41] <nhaines> Vaske_Car, eitehr that or a less stable version, because 6.06 is not  out yet.
[06:41] <haloe> 32
[06:41] <T313C0mun1s7> I save a bit for rainy days
[06:41] <FoX_44470> I accept all sort of money !
[06:41] <cluehammer> ?
[06:41] <haloe> 2-4-8-16-32-64-128
[06:41] <jtd> no
[06:41] <eigenlambda> i think one of those architectures is still in debian/stable
[06:41] <haloe> is it that hard?
[06:41] <Vaske_Car> nhaines, this is June, is this 6.06 final version or beta?
[06:41] <rendo> Where are the prime numbers?
[06:41] <haloe> 1
[06:41] <rendo> I NEED PRIME NUMBERS
[06:41] <Vaske_Car> oh
[06:41] <haloe> lol
[06:41] <jtd> 4 8 15 16 23 42
[06:41] <P0ldy> Debian is supposed to be getting their release cycles out faster
[06:42] <Meshezabeel> Vaske_Car, final version
[06:42] <T313C0mun1s7> No it is not hard, just put a bit in your pocket
[06:42] <Xore> rendo: 2^p - 1
[06:42] <intelikey> haloe you know binarry ?      i heard there are 10 kinds of people in the world,   those that know binarry and those that dont.
[06:42] <T313C0mun1s7> Id you need extra bits shake a floppy over a bowl
[06:42] <mjb> Hey is 'Always on visible Workspace' determined by metacity?
[06:42] <haloe> zcat[1]  need to steal bill gates pc!
[06:42] <haloe> lol
[06:42] <nhaines> Vaske_Car, there is no final version yet.  It will happen later on today.  Watch http://www.ubuntu.com/download for the release.
[06:42] <Efnian> mjb, I wish I could customize a shortcut for that
[06:42] <zcat[1] > intelikey: no, there are 10 kinds.. those that know binary, those that don't, and those that mistake it for trinary..
[06:42] <haloe> intelikey: yes
[06:42] <Viaken> 2 3 5 7 11 13 17
[06:43] <Viaken> Primes for you, rendo.
[06:43] <haloe> intelikey: want to be member
[06:43] <shrewd> so the regular ubuntu install disk is what i want for a pentium D and SMP will work nicely?
[06:43] <mjb> I was looking to see if I drag a window to a second monitor that property automatically gets set
[06:43] <haloe> I am hunting for members
[06:43] <T313C0mun1s7> If you really want to throw your computer for a loop, give it a 2
[06:43] <Xore> zcat[1] : ternary, i think
[06:43] <mjb> .. like a pallette
[06:43] <majd> !lamp
[06:43] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:43] <zcat[1] > yeah, whatever :)
[06:43] <Hisakasex> what's the command to check sent mail by postfix?
[06:43] <nhaines> shrewd, that's right.
[06:43] <T313C0mun1s7> and that would be 11 kinds
[06:43] <eigenlambda> lol php
[06:43] <mjb> I was thinking some hack script might do the trick...
[06:43] <zcat[1] > 11 kinds in binary, 10 kinds in ternary..
[06:44] <JoseStefan> shrewd, you might need to install a 686 package
[06:44] <bkh> So when Edgy Eft is ready, will Dapper Drake be considered a lame duck?
[06:44] <jtd> ...
[06:44] <intelikey> no just 2
[06:44] <Vaske_Car> majd, im not sure that this tutorial work well... i come to the point where i have to edit php.ini and it open empty file..
[06:44] <rendo> No.,
[06:44] <rendo> Mediocre Mallard. :/
[06:44] <jtd> OH GOD
[06:44] <shrewd> thanks :)
[06:44] <majd> Vaske_Car, that's not good
[06:44] <T313C0mun1s7> Dont make me explain binary please
[06:44] <eigenlambda> ya, i can't wait to see what's in edgy
[06:44] <Vaske_Car> majd, you try anyway
[06:45] <eigenlambda> i wonder if there's going to be some *actual* pr0n on the cd
[06:45] <bkh> Would you say that it's making you edgy, eigenlambda?
[06:45] <Hobart> bkh -> no, when Eft is out, they'll call Drake "Etch".
[06:45] <Hmmmm> guys, i want to resinatll my machine and install dapper. how do i backup azureus so I cna continue the downloads?will backing up the .azureus do?
[06:45] <haloe> I have a game
[06:45] <Flannel> bkh: not really.  Edgy is going to be unstable, well, unstable compared to dapper.
[06:45] <mjb> Are there any metacity hackers in the audience?
[06:45] <haloe> stop typing for 1 min.
[06:45] <zcat[1] > Hmmmm: yes
[06:45] <eigenlambda> instead of just, lookind down on some chick's blouse
[06:45] <Meshezabeel> zcat[1]  what about those that make the mistake of quaternary?
[06:45] <Hmmmm> zcat[1] , cool thatnks
[06:45] <P0ldy> Hmmmm, why reinstall?  you could upgrade.
[06:45] <T313C0mun1s7> haloe: use the scroll bar
[06:45] <zcat[1] > eigenlambda: you never installed calendar did you?
[06:45] <haloe> lol
[06:45] <Hmmmm> P0ldy, i know. but iv been upgrading for a while. and I'd like to clean a few things up
[06:46] <eigenlambda> i don't use a calendar, no
[06:46] <P0ldy> Hmmmm, ah
[06:46] <haloe> anyone want to join me in opera irc
[06:46] <eigenlambda> actually, i don't use ubuntu yet.  going to install tomorrow
[06:46] <nhaines> Okay, I've got some stuff to take care of.  Take care, everyone.  :)
[06:46] <zcat[1] > eigenlambda: it was a series of wallpapers of actual naked people...
[06:46] <JoseStefan> does this channel always have this much activity? (900 users)
[06:46] <haloe> this is so funny
[06:46] <P0ldy> yes
[06:46] <Meshezabeel> why would someone want to download the install disc rather than the live disc?
[06:46] <Efnian> yes
[06:46] <GeorgeClooney> im here for the release party!!!!!
[06:46] <eigenlambda> zcat[1] : sweet!
[06:46] <GeorgeClooney> heh
[06:46] <haloe> I cam here for ubuntu and noone can help
[06:46] <eigenlambda> where?
[06:46] <haloe> lol!
[06:46] <rendo> !LTS
[06:46] <ubotu> well, lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[06:46] <Efnian> Meshezabeel, I do the Expert instal.
[06:46] <Vaske_Car> is there any REPAIR feature in Ubuntu in case that it crash?
[06:46] <rendo> A hammer.
[06:46] <T313C0mun1s7> haloe - but you were wanting to leave and play a game
[06:47] <jtd> you know what I want to see in Edgy?
[06:47] <P0ldy> yeah... init 1
[06:47] <Das|Sleeping> What's the command to see all proccess running again?
[06:47] <eigenlambda> Vaske_Car: like what?
[06:47] <bkh> I'm in the same position, I've been using SuSE for the last few years, but 10.1 is just f'd up, so I'm looking to switch to Ubuntu or CentOS...
[06:47] <nhaines> Vaske_Car, yes, there is a recovery option in grub at startup.
[06:47] <jtd> A replacement for INIT, for the love of God.
[06:47] <Meshezabeel> Efnian, you can't do this under live cd?
[06:47] <Xore> If Neo was the One of the matrix. Eigenlambda is it's zero. (laugh dammit, it's funny) (no offense, eigenlambda)
[06:47] <zcat[1] > ubuntu-calendar - The Ubuntu Calendar features monthly updated artwork and themes
[06:47] <eigenlambda> Das|Sleeping: try ps -ax
[06:47] <eigenlambda> or top
[06:47] <h3h_timo> can i update yet???????????????
[06:47] <jtd> Linux STILL does serial boot-up
[06:47] <Efnian> Meshezabeel, actually, I have no idea, I'm playing it safe.
[06:47] <GeorgeClooney> i told the internet people that i had to have the net today so that i could upgrade to dapper, how sad is that.  they were very confused on the phone and told me that their internet service required windows 98 or higher and were utterly confused by the name dapper
[06:47] <haloe> Efnian P0ldy want to join you can get a much better conversation
[06:47] <h3h_timo> what is serial boot up
[06:47] <Viaken> !tell h3h_timo about dapper
[06:47] <Vaske_Car> well i just compare to Windows... im still in process to migrate to Ubuntu completly so i just want to know..
[06:47] <bkh> But isn't the matrix written in hex?
[06:47] <jtd> and if one thing is blocking, the entire boot sequence stops.
[06:48] <bkh> On those screens with the green letters...
[06:48] <eigenlambda> kinda funny...
[06:48] <Xore> ;_;
[06:48] <eigenlambda> i guess the Matrix isn't invertible, then
[06:48] <jtd> h3h_timo: it means that, for example, if the boot sequence is waiting on an IP address from DHCP, nothing else happens while it's waiting.  the system just sits there and waits.
[06:48] <eigenlambda> if one of the eigenvalues is 0
[06:48] <P0ldy> GeorgeClooney, lol.  'What version of Windows is a Dapper?'
[06:48] <rredd4> will Canonical offer help if I email them a question?
[06:48] <rendo> I used to work for an ISP
[06:48] <rendo> We didn't support linux.
[06:48] <h3h_timo> jtd, it does that for anything it tries to do?
[06:48] <rendo> People got pissed when they called.
[06:49] <Vaske_Car> Next release should be named Ubuntu Mega, it sound nice :)
[06:49] <zcat[1] > jtd: you can esily background that, but if something else needs an IP address and dhcp hasn't finished yet, things can get unpredictable
[06:49] <haloe> irc://irc.opera.com/general
[06:49] <haloe> irc://irc.opera.com/general
[06:49] <haloe> irc://irc.opera.com/general
[06:49] <haloe> irc://irc.opera.com/general
[06:49] <haloe> irc://irc.opera.com/general
[06:49] <T313C0mun1s7> I have a copy of Windows 1 (for really and for true - I keep it next to my copy of OS/2)
[06:49] <crimsun> haloe: ok, that's enough spam kthx
[06:49] <haloe> FLOODING wont I get banned>
[06:49] <eigenlambda> haloe: nice flood
[06:49] <jtd> zcat: the system should still start, though.  this is especially important for laptops.
[06:49] <haloe> lol
[06:49] <Xore> /quit and /part were in a channel. /part left. who was still there?
[06:49] <haloe> this is crazy
[06:49] <jtd> wow.  someone uses direcpc.
[06:49] <grv> lol
[06:49] <JoseStefan> what version of linux would be good for an old 486/25 with 32mb of ram?
[06:49] <grv> xore:)
[06:49] <intelikey> /quit
[06:50] <jtd> h3h_timo: yup.
[06:50] <haloe> I use ubuntu and I wanted to ask what is difference
[06:50] <Xore> COMEDY GOLD
[06:50] <Xore> i suck
[06:50] <grv> /part ?
[06:50] <zcat[1] > yeah.. there's a package I think for laptops that checks if anything is actually plugged IN to the netweork port and skips dhcp if not..
[06:50] <haloe> ubuntu kubunu
[06:50] <Kyral> JoseStefan: Damn Small Linux
[06:50] <grv> :D
[06:50] <h3h_timo> jtd, is it ever gonna change
[06:50] <P0ldy> JoseStefan, what are you going to do with it
[06:50] <haloe> ???
[06:50] <GeorgeClooney> P0ldy then they insult me with having a windows only setup... i am glad that my gfs computer has windows or i would have been very upset.  last time the guy came to set it up he was like "is this a mac?"  i said no, this is linux and he said oh that line x thing that i always hear about... ok
[06:50] <T313C0mun1s7> I use ubantu server with fluxbox on a 486 w/ 32meg - but there is a lot of work setting it up
[06:50] <haloe> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[06:50] <JoseStefan> well actually it's has an overdrive = 586/133
[06:50] <rredd4> JoseStefan  Damn small linux is great
[06:50] <eigenlambda> haloe: try "ph'nglui mglw'nafh Gthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" for your next flood
[06:50] <jtd> h3h_timo: I dunno.  people make noises about replacing INIT with a parallel boot-up system of some kind all the time, but so far I don't know of any distribution that uses one.
[06:50] <wims> klined
[06:50] <wims> that's nice
[06:50] <GeorgeClooney> i am syco54645 normally by the way, i just didnt want to identify
[06:50] <jtd> eigenlambda: heh
[06:50] <JoseStefan> Nostalgia, it was my first PC
[06:50] <orbin> wims: he deserved it
[06:51] <h3h_timo> jtd, well... thats new info thanks for explaining
[06:51] <GeorgeClooney> but this is getting too chatty for a help chat, so i am out of here, back to my other apartment where my ac works.
[06:51] <Flannel> eigenlambda: is that klingon?
[06:51] <DrewMarin> woot
[06:51] <jtd> zcat[1] : doesn't help if you have wireless.
[06:51] <bkh> CTHULHU F'TAGN!
[06:51] <jtd> IA!  IA!
[06:51] <Xore> <noise type="random" source="camel" />
[06:51] <T313C0mun1s7> The processor is not going to be the problem - memory is the killer
[06:51] <JoseStefan> so I might have a chance with ubuntu-server ?
[06:51] <zcat[1] > I tell people I'm running a preview that hasn't been released yet. They go "oh, vista" and I tell them something like that.... they're going to be so dissapointed when they actually see Vista compared to my sweet compiz setup!!
[06:52] <Meshezabeel> bkh, get your batleth ready
[06:52] <DShepherd> zcat[1] : :-)
[06:52] <intelikey> klingoneese  don't you know?
[06:52] <jtd> zcat[1] : "compiz?"
[06:52] <P0ldy> GeorgeClooney, you shouldn't even have to tell them what OS you're using.  If you know the issue, just have them elevate you to tier2 tech support so you don't have to get the "do this reboot do this" shit
[06:52] <rendo> Anyone know if Cedega will support DX10?
[06:52] <T313C0mun1s7> I started with the base install, then custom, and started stripping out un-needed stuff
[06:52] <IcemanV9> JoseStefan: yea. try to install server
[06:52] <DShepherd> zcat[1] : i cant wait for edgy too
[06:52] <hkl8324> I checked shipit and it said the CD have been shipped to the shipping company on 31/5, what does that mean? The CD is the not final LTS or?
[06:52] <bkh> Meshezabeel: That isn't Klingon
[06:52] <Xore> oh no!
[06:52] <orbin> rendo: ask in #cedega
[06:52] <Xore> we're back below 900 people in here
[06:52] <grv> cedega probably doesnt even know if theyll support it:P
[06:52] <rendo> I'm lazy, can't you do it for me? :p
[06:52] <Saj> lol
[06:53] <DShepherd> Xore: yeah
[06:53] <JoseStefan> 900
[06:53] <zcat[1] > I think I can wait for edgy.. dapper is pretty sweet already. Everything I need for a while anyhow..
[06:53] <nbx909> yeah i found the link early
[06:53] <nbx909> lol
[06:53] <Saj> :D
[06:53] <Hmmmm> when does xubuntu a la dapper get released? wanted to see how much faster it runs than gnome
[06:53] <DShepherd> zcat[1] : same here.. been running dapper from Feb
[06:53] <nbx909> well not me a friend of mine
[06:53] <nbx909> lol
[06:53] <Hmmmm> !xubuntu
[06:53] <ubotu> xubuntu is probably Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[06:53] <zcat[1] > Hey, I just found a torrent link on ubuntu.com for 6.06-LTS
[06:53] <jbroome> omg omg omg
[06:53] <jrsims> Hello! Anyone know how I can have drop-shadows in gnome?
[06:53] <GianLuigiBuffon> hi m8s!!!!
[06:53] <DShepherd> Hmmmm: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:53] <zcat[1] > ummm no sorry, just kidding :)
[06:54] <Hmmmm> DShepherd, cool thanks
[06:54] <troy_s> jrsims:  Do a search for compiz / xgl
[06:54] <DShepherd> Hmmmm: np
[06:54] <GianLuigiBuffon> I'm running Ubuntu 5.05 Breezy and I want to upgrate to Dapper.... the question is... how? xD
[06:54] <jrsims> troy_s: yeah, is that anywhere near stable yet?
[06:54] <jtd> will sudo apt-get remove --recursive ubuntu-desktop eliminate GNOME for you?
[06:54] <Xaero_Vincent> 900 people here? wtf
[06:54] <majd> where does php.ini install into?
[06:54] <eigenlambda> Flannel: no, it's what the Cthulhu cultists chant
[06:54] <Meshezabeel> bkh: well then go get me a shrubbery
[06:54] <troy_s> jrsims:  pretty stable for most.
[06:54] <JoseStefan> the are some unconfirmed links on the ubuntu forums
[06:54] <bkh> Meshezabeel: No, you'll just want another one.
[06:54] <majd> Xaero_Vincent, dapper release
[06:54] <jrsims> troy_s: I think I've already installed the packages. How do I enable?
[06:54] <GianLuigiBuffon> Cthulhu rules!!!!
[06:54] <Meshezabeel> :)
[06:54] <intelikey> jtd no  remove gconf
[06:55] <troy_s> jrsims:  if gl accellerated cards were open spec, probably more stable.  send mail to nvidia and ati.
[06:55] <Fracture>  /m
[06:55] <Soir> GianLuigiBuffon: With magical powers! And selective editing of /etc/apt/sources.list. Read the wiki for more info
[06:55] <Xore> Xaero_Vincent: 900 people in here is nothing. you should see how many people are going to be in #vista when it releases. (0)
[06:55] <jtd> GianLuigiBuffon: change all the lines that say "breezy" in your /etc/apt/sources.list to say "dapper."
[06:55] <eigenlambda> i think the GNAA is a kind of secular Cthulhu cult
[06:55] <troy_s> jrsims: let me find a link.
[06:55] <Meshezabeel> ni ni ni ni
[06:55] <GianLuigiBuffon> :O
[06:55] <jtd> intelikey: ah.  that makes sense.  all depends on gconf :)
[06:55] <Saj> dapper will be runing gnome?
[06:55] <Meshezabeel> ni
[06:55] <jessy_> where is dapper drake ? :s
[06:55] <GianLuigiBuffon> so better downloading dapper drake?
[06:55] <troy_s> jrsims:  try the wiki too.  here is the forums link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090
[06:55] <rendo> It's not a question of how many will be in #vista, but more so how many people call in Microsoft because the OS fails to install properly. :P
[06:55] <troy_s> !xgl
[06:55] <ubotu> from memory, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[06:56] <troy_s> !compiz
[06:56] <ubotu> Compiz is a compositing manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. See http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz -- Installation howto's:   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.
[06:56] <rredd4> zcat   made me look, lol
[06:56] <Merturk_NB|hw> will there be a seperate iso for xubuntu?
[06:56] <Viaken> GianLuigiBuffon: sed -i.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:56] <jtd> hm.
[06:56] <Xore> One of the big questions: What if Microsoft made an operating system, and Nobody Came?
[06:56] <jtd> I wonder if you can have KDE running on one facet of an XGL cube and Gnome running on another.
[06:56] <troy_s> jrsims:  enough?
[06:56] <Xore> s/Came/Cared/;      ?
[06:56] <jrsims> troy_s: yeah, thanks!
[06:56] <Soir> Viaken: mmmm, one line dapper.
[06:56] <GianLuigiBuffon> just that viaken?
[06:56] <P0ldy> XGL's exxxcellent
[06:56] <Hisakasex> how can I check sent mail by postfix?
[06:56] <Efnian> jtd, yeah, and XFCE on third and fluxbox on fourth.
[06:57] <Hisakasex> sorry for asking the same again.. I went to eat
[06:57] <grv> i dont think anyone knows hisakasex:(
[06:57] <GianLuigiBuffon> sed: couldn't open temporary file /etc/apt//sedGrD8Zz: Permission denied
[06:57] <jtd> Efnian: ... I may weep.  :D
[06:57] <intelikey> jtd yeah. you will need to renistall x-window-system-core   assuming you are keeping X    and  deborphan is your friend
[06:57] <GianLuigiBuffon> I'll put sude first
[06:57] <Soir> sudo would be good, yes
[06:57] <jtd> intelikey: "deborphan?"
[06:57] <Merturk_NB|hw> will there be a different ISO for xubuntu?
[06:57] <rredd4> will Canonical offer help if I email them a question?
[06:57] <GianLuigiBuffon> denied
[06:57] <intelikey> jtd yes
[06:57] <Viaken> Oh yeah...forgot my sudos. lol
[06:57] <jrsims> troy_s: wait, is this a memory hog, or mostly handled by my vid card?
[06:57] <troy_s> merturk: one would think so.
[06:57] <Efnian> Merturk_NB|hw, yes.
[06:57] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: 1000+?
[06:57] <Soir> Merturk_NB|hw: eventually, yeah.
[06:57] <rob_p> Hisakasex:  Probably by viewing Postfix's logfile.
[06:57] <troy_s> jrsims:  hard to say ultimately.  test and watch your resources.
[06:57] <JoseStefan> in theory, dapper should be released before the 2nd so we have 19h left (tops)
[06:57] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: its falling
[06:57] <jrsims> k
[06:57] <Merturk_NB|hw> Soir, eventually?
[06:58] <grv> lol josestefan
[06:58] <jtd> intelikey: why do you need that?
[06:58] <zcat[1] > sorry, only 7 now...
[06:58] <Xore> the 24h topic was up at LEAST 10 hours ago, to my knowledge, so it's down to under 14
[06:58] <GianLuigiBuffon> Viaken that command doesn't work... access denied
[06:58] <intelikey> jtd i do a looping deborphan to clean out all unnessary libs
[06:58] <troy_s> jrsims:  with novell developing it, i suspect it will get refined quite rapidly.
[06:58] <Merturk_NB|hw> Soir, easier to just install a server and run sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?
[06:58] <nbx909> no
[06:58] <jrsims> troy_s: yeah, I'm looking forward to it
[06:58] <Viaken> GianLuigiBuffon: You'll have to sudo everything: sudo sed -i.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:58] <Saj> interesting.
[06:58] <JoseStefan> well it's almost 05:00 GMT
[06:58] <shrewd> anybody used suse10.1?
[06:58] <nbx909> i tried that Merturk_NB|hw it takes for ever lol
[06:58] <jtd> intelikey: ... oooohhh.  You know, I have always wanted to know how to do that :D
[06:59] <Merturk_NB|hw> well, i've got a cable modem
[06:59] <troy_s> jrsims:   your computer will still work without wobbly windows ;)
[06:59] <bkh> shrewd: I am right now... which is why I'm looking at Ubuntu
[06:59] <Merturk_NB|hw> 600 kb/s plus
[06:59] <shrewd> re:suse10.1: what did you think?
[06:59] <Saj> 1 thing that will make ubuntu great is a cedega type thing built in:D
[06:59] <Soir> Merturk_NB|hw: That's what I did. I dunno if they're putting out a new iso immediately, I'd have -supposed- they would ;)
[06:59] <jtd> intelikey: That should be made part of some kind of "clean up your system" package.
[06:59] <GianLuigiBuffon> i pushed enter
[06:59] <jsestri2> what file would i edit to pass parameters to mysqld when it starts up with a new session?
[06:59] <rob138> are there any torrents of 6.06 iso?
[06:59] <GianLuigiBuffon> and nothing happened
[06:59] <jrsims> troy_s: yeah, I think I can do without wobbly windows, but drop shadows would be nice.
[06:59] <GianLuigiBuffon> is normal ?
[06:59] <Soir> nbx909: try upgrading from 4.10 in stages and then installing xubuntu-desktop ;)
[06:59] <Saj> but thats a dream for now:(
[06:59] <GianLuigiBuffon> or I must do something more
[06:59] <troy_s> jesetri2:  what are you trying to do exactly?
[06:59] <jrsims> troy_s: btw, know how I can check my version of xorg?
[06:59] <nbx909> Soir, lol
[06:59] <troy_s> rob:  yes.
[06:59] <JoseStefan> the ubuntuforums has "unconfirmed" links
[07:00] <bkh> SuSE has completely lost it.  The Developers treat releases like betas and Novell execs are forcing things like ZenWorks onto SuSE in a misguided attempt to boost sales
[07:00] <troy_s> jrsims:  what version of ubuntu you running?
[07:00] <Viaken> GianLuigiBuffon: Give it a little time.
[07:00] <rob138> troy_s where can i find them?
[07:00] <intelikey> jtd install deborphan and do this       [ $UID -gt 1 ]  && SU=sudo ;while deborphan | grep [A-z]  >/dev/null 2>&1 ;do $SU apt-get --purge remove `deborphan` ;done
[07:00] <lin> \q
[07:00] <GianLuigiBuffon> yeah but it finished at the moment
[07:00] <DarkTower> how stable will doing an upgrade from breezy be when dapper is released?
[07:00] <troy_s> rob138:  i THINK there are torrent listings at cdimage.ubuntu.com
[07:00] <jrsims> troy_s: most current dapper
[07:00] <troy_s> whoops
[07:00] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: what?
[07:00] <troy_s> cdimages.ubuntu.com
[07:00] <rob_p> troy_s:  Yup!
[07:00] <intelikey> you can script that.  i wrote it.  it's GNU
[07:00] <GianLuigiBuffon> now is working
[07:00] <JoseStefan> there is a rumor that the current dailys = final
[07:00] <GianLuigiBuffon> before it didn't request me the password and nothing
[07:01] <rob138> troy_s thanks
[07:01] <jrsims> troy_s: nm, looked at synaptic. I have 7
[07:01] <rob_p> troy_s:  Oops!  Wrong rob :-)
[07:01] <GianLuigiBuffon> so... when It finish, I'll have dapper then?
[07:01] <grndslm> does anybody know how to use flash memory as part of system memory, like vista does?  i gotta admit, that's pretty amazing that microsoft came up with a measly one new feature to the software industry
[07:01] <troy_s> guys, ubuntu is where it is at.  i believe mark has a few tricks up his sleeve regarding sun... we shall need to wait and see.
[07:01] <bimberi> JoseStefan: that's pretty likely
[07:01] <GianLuigiBuffon> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[07:01] <GianLuigiBuffon>  is this ok?
[07:01] <troy_s> the open sourcing of java soon and mark's response from the sun crowd was enough to suggest some back room chitters.
[07:01] <eigenlambda> No.  Using flash as system memory is stupid.
[07:01] <jrsims> so whats the news with Sun and ubuntu? Sun going to support it or what?
[07:02] <eigenlambda> it *will* destroy your flash
[07:02] <grndslm> eigenlambda, why?
[07:02] <eigenlambda> flash can only be rewritten a certain number of times.
[07:02] <DarkTower> grndslm: how much would that gain you? where does it say vista is doing that?
[07:02] <Viaken> GianLuigiBuffon: It should be. I get that error sometimes, too.
[07:02] <troy_s> jrsims:  depends on how you read it.  if sun wants to jettison the whole os aspect and focus on pure corp, it is an interesting situation... :)
[07:02] <DarkTower> wsouldnt make sense to use flash memory like that
[07:02] <JoseStefan> i rather have a ramdrive composed of DDR, but that's expensive
[07:02] <grndslm> DarkTower, i don't recall the site, but look it up if you'd like
[07:02] <bkh> It's an awful lot of writes, but swap gets re-written constantly
[07:02] <Viaken> GianLuigiBuffon: That said, proceed at your own risk. Ctrl-C if you want to stop it.
[07:02] <eigenlambda> using it like it's disk space is commonplace, because that's what it is like
[07:02] <GianLuigiBuffon> viaken  now appeared for update... with a large list of stuff that wont be installed
[07:02] <GianLuigiBuffon> no, it's done
[07:02] <eigenlambda> using it as main memory is stupid beyond belief
[07:02] <chuck> How do I setup Xserver to use system RAM as video RAM?
[07:03] <Merturk_NB|hw> well, this weekend I'm opening up a Tattoo Parlor running almost pure Ubuntu 6.06
[07:03] <jrsims> troy_s: think that's what they want to do? Make ubuntu their flagship OS?
[07:03] <OmniD> grndslm: for some reason that sounds like a really stupid idea considering the amount of writes are limited before the flash memory is useless
[07:03] <Joetheodd> Happy Dapper day! It's now 12:03AM CST!
[07:03] <grndslm> eigenlambda, there is no flash that can be written to like ram?
[07:03] <Merturk_NB|hw> minus one manager (my father) that is staying on Windows
[07:03] <vinboy> happy dapper day
[07:03] <DarkTower> grndslm: sorry but as you can see from peoples responses that doesnt make sense, may have read wrong or the site was bs
[07:03] <troy_s> jrsims:  I don't know.  But one would think that having Mark on stage has something to do with something.
[07:03] <eigenlambda> grndslm: it can be written to like ram...
[07:03] <Merturk_NB|hw> he just hard a heart attack, so I don't want to stress him out
[07:03] <eigenlambda> ...but that's a dumb idea
[07:03] <grv> idk why they gotta be secretive on the release:/
[07:03] <jet87> Joetheodd: CDT, you mean?
[07:03] <Xaero_Vincent> why would u need Ubuntu in a Tatto Parlor?
[07:03] <grndslm> i'll take your guys' word for it....
[07:03] <eigenlambda> of course it's random access
[07:03] <chuck> How do I setup Xserver to use system RAM as video RAM?
[07:03] <zcat[1] > Thu Jun  1 17:03:36 NZST 2006
[07:03] <jrsims> troy_s: what presentation is this, and where can I get the video?
[07:03] <grndslm> i just can't believe they'd implement such a dumb idea then
[07:03] <jsestri2> grv: so they don't get bombed at a specific time
[07:04] <eigenlambda> ya
[07:04] <DarkTower> vinboy: happy dapper
[07:04] <eigenlambda> neither can i
[07:04] <grv> they'll get bombed anyway~___~
[07:04] <zcat[1] > dammit, we're running out of day over here!!!
[07:04] <Joetheodd> jet87: Central Standard Time
[07:04] <troy_s> http://www.webaugur.com/dave/blogger/2006/05/sun-ubuntu-aha.html
[07:04] <eigenlambda> i think you read something wrong, or read something wrong
[07:04] <leboff> can someone link me that forum post?
[07:04] <jsestri2> grv: theres a diff between a huge load, and a huge load instantly
[07:04] <troy_s> jrsims:  try that for a few quotes.
[07:04] <GianLuigiBuffon> Now i'm on synaptics upgrading
[07:04] <GianLuigiBuffon> I hope to do it well
[07:04] <GianLuigiBuffon> xD
[07:04] <troy_s> jrsims:  google will yield many more.
[07:04] <vinboy> should I get a p4 or amd64?
[07:04] <jrsims> sweet
[07:04] <vinboy> i don't do much gaming
[07:04] <troy_s> vinboy: amd
[07:04] <spartas> joetheodd: Central Daylight Time
[07:04] <DarkTower> how stable is doing an upgrade from breezy when dapper is out??
[07:04] <Efnian> vinboy, amd
[07:04] <jet87> CST would be an hour back from what it is right now, i'm from around chicago and its just after 12
[07:04] <vinboy> ok
[07:04] <grndslm> get a core duo
[07:04] <troy_s> vinboy:  check how they support open source
[07:04] <GianLuigiBuffon> is going to download 1600 files... is that ok?????
[07:04] <IcemanV9> Joetheodd: Central Daylight Time (CDT)
[07:04] <troy_s> vinboy:  and intel is closed closed closed.
[07:05] <DarkTower> vinboy: amd
[07:05] <vinboy> troy_s: oh ic
[07:05] <Viaken> brb
[07:05] <GianLuigiBuffon> 1165
[07:05] <Saj> vinboy: amd64 is better....get x2 though
[07:05] <troy_s> vinboy:  and now in bed with the worst of all closed companies:  apple.
[07:05] <vinboy> sounds good to me
[07:05] <vinboy> Saj: x2 is expensive :(
[07:05] <troy_s> vinboy:  you WONT be dissapointed.  get an x2
[07:05] <leboff> can some one give me that forum with the links to the distros?
[07:05] <grndslm> distrowatch.com
[07:05] <JoseStefan> vinboy: wait for Conroe "Core Duo 2" to be released, compare to AMD's AM2 socket, then decide
[07:05] <jsestri2> anyone here interested in fixing a problem and not just blabbing about the release?
[07:05] <DarkTower> troy_s: i like amd much better, but how is intel closed?? I find whenever i want something to work with ubuntu i use original intel and all is fine
[07:05] <grv> core duo is very good too
[07:05] <troy_s> vinboy:  naw... don't even try to compare the x2 to the cheapo "core Duo(tm)(c)(blah)"
[07:05] <crimsun> jsestri2: shoot.
[07:05] <grndslm> core duo!
[07:05] <paradon> Re: Windows Vista and Flash : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperFetch
[07:05] <Joetheodd> spartas, IcemanV9, I may be wrong but at least I'm not politically correct. ^_^
[07:05] <troy_s> darktower:  do some research.
[07:05] <vinboy> ic
[07:05] <grndslm> that's it
[07:05] <grv> u can compare them
[07:05] <grv> benchmarks
[07:06] <Merturk_NB|hw> to bad I won't get all these cool features on my 500 mhz machine :-/
[07:06] <troy_s> darktower:  amd actively supports the open source movement.
[07:06] <vinboy> ok i prolly go check out the x2 then, thanks guys
[07:06] <Saj> vinboy: i know but 1 3200 x2 is wquivilant of 2 3200 64s...
[07:06] <jsestri2> crimsun: ah, great, i'm trying to pass some parameters to mysqld when it starts up...point me in the direction of where those go?
[07:06] <GianLuigiBuffon> viaken all that stuff is ok? The 1160 files from synaptics and all of that?
[07:06] <zcat[1] > Merturk_NB|hw: I ran compiz on a 500 with an earlyish nvidia cark.. not great but surprisingly geed..
[07:06] <vinboy> by the way, do u guys run 64bit ubuntu? if not, what is the gain of getting an amd64 cpu?
[07:06] <zcat[1] > *good
[07:06] <DShepherd> Merturk_NB|hw: nope.. not a chance :-)
[07:06] <crimsun> jsestri2: /etc/init.d/mysql
[07:06] <GianLuigiBuffon> I've marken all upgrades (it requested it for updating)=
[07:06] <DShepherd> Merturk_NB|hw: and if you do.. it wont be worth it
[07:06] <DarkTower> troy_s: sorry thats not much of an argument, And saying amd supports open source doesnt mean intel is closed, one doesnt follow from the other. As i said i like amd better, but unless you can give an example of how closed intel is that doesnt make sense
[07:07] <vinboy> Saj: wow, tat sound amazing!
[07:07] <Saj> 64bit cpu is a difrent asepct of the thing
[07:07] <jet87> i'm trying to figure out if i want to do a ubuntu install on the core duo laptop i'm getting, or just run it with vmware as a hypervisor in xp
[07:07] <tempname> !grub
[07:07] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:07] <jsestri2> crimsun: thanks a bunch.
[07:07] <JoseStefan> 64bit is the future
[07:07] <troy_s> darktower:  do your homework
[07:07] <spartas> joetheodd, not trying to be politically correct; there is a difference (CDT is UTC-5, CST is UTC-6)
[07:07] <Efnian> vinboy, all amd's are 64-bit nowadays.
[07:07] <troy_s> darktower:  that's all i will say.
[07:07] <intelikey> hmmmm i may hook two mother boards togather via the ide cable.....
[07:07] <grv> lol
[07:07] <JoseStefan> intelikey, no
[07:07] <maruchan> man i have a question that still cant get answered i'm trying to get my system back up, i uninstalled xorg, and now the x is broken, and when i try to install xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:07] <intelikey> JoseStefan yeah
[07:07] <bkh> I fried a scsi cable that way once...
[07:07] <DarkTower> troy_s: lol sorry. if you actual knew something you'd give a reason. Its like if i yelled out the sky is red, do your research thats why. You would have an example
[07:07] <jet87> i hear enough about time zones living in indiana, they're a touchy subject for me
[07:08] <maruchan> but i cant cuase it says it wants to change  diffrent file and its not allowed
[07:08] <jbroome> purple is better than brown
[07:08] <Efnian> I keep a safe distance to all time zones.
[07:08] <grndslm> jet87, i don't have a core duo, but intel is extremely open and smp support has worked with linux forever....apparently linux runs quicker than os x on the macbooks
[07:08] <crimsun> jbroome: omg ponies.
[07:08] <paradizelos1> CST is -6 hours, so 12 midnight is 0600 UTC
[07:08] <bkh> It was the coolest cable fry... the one of the fifty wires fried, right in the center, cutting the cable in half lengthwise...
[07:08] <troy_s> darktower:  theo and all have more than talked enough about intel...
[07:09] <axion`> ive heard xp runs games better than osx on certain macs
[07:09] <JoseStefan> Edgy should default to hot pink colors
[07:09] <maruchan> any help on my problem
[07:09] <nbx909> JoseStefan, lol
[07:09] <jbroome> crimsun: ponies made from puppies
[07:09] <bkh> It was a misguided attempt at making a scsi drive visible by two different computers at the same time back in college...
[07:09] <jet87> the core duos support VT, and googling around vmware can run as a hypervisor (like xen).  i would flat out install ubuntu if i didn't have to worry about dell hell and not fubaring the rest of the special partitions
[07:09] <nbx909> JoseStefan, anything but this stupid brown-orange color
[07:09] <Saj> vinboy: you see the the chip actualy works 32bit, every single part of it, but every bufer has 32 bits extra and if there is something above 32 bits that particuler buffer thingi switches to 64bit....so its basicly two things in one..the amd core is clocked slower, this is better because it makes less heat and thus is more overclockable, the other advantage is the memory controller which is on the chip, this optimises the ram and thus makes the system mroe e
[07:09] <Saj> fficient and faster.
[07:09] <DarkTower> troy_s: ok do your homework
[07:10] <nbx909> i have to install bluecurve every time
[07:10] <nbx909> lol
[07:10] <varsendaggr> hey when will dapper be officially relaesed
[07:10] <axion`> orange brown is the ubuntu colors tho
[07:10] <intelikey> bkh heh
[07:10] <nbx909> varsendaggr, we don't know
[07:10] <varsendaggr> now now now
[07:10] <rendo> varsendahhr soon!
[07:10] <grv> lol
[07:10] <varsendaggr> i heard tomarrow
[07:10] <rendo> Ef off keyboard.
[07:10] <varsendaggr> it looks cool
[07:10] <axion`> less that 24hrs, a little bird told me
[07:10] <bkh> Real Soon Now(tm)
[07:10] <axion`> than*
[07:10] <grv> rumor is that the daily builds arent going to differ from the official:/
[07:10] <jbroome> varsendaggr: it's tomorrow now
[07:10] <nbx909> varsendaggr, but you can download what we think is the final verson http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570
[07:10] <axion`> grv, how far back?
[07:10] <axion`> just todays?
[07:10] <JoseStefan> less than 16:50:00
[07:11] <grv> i guess
[07:11] <axion`> well, im not good enough yet to tell whether or not, so no use trying
[07:11] <Saj> eta = 7hrs aprox then:D
[07:11] <vinboy> thanks Saj
[07:11] <grv> hey anyone use WUSB54G on ubuntu?
[07:11] <Saj> vinboy: pleasure
[07:11] <reXin> anybody know if dapper will have an option for an EFI supported boot loader instead of grub?
[07:12] <jtd> !automatix
[07:12] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[07:12] <rendo> Oh well, I'll head to bed and hopefully she's "officially" out in the morning for the awesome installage and the orgasmic bliss of DD.
[07:12] <paradizelos1> reXin: if it doesn't have it now, it won't be in the final release
[07:12] <paradizelos1> possibly an update
[07:12] <rendo> Interesting.
[07:12] <Hentai_Jeff> why am I tempted to send ubuntu disks to everyone I know an address for? :D
[07:12] <rendo> Subliminal messages with the name Dapper Drake.
[07:12] <nbx909> lol
[07:12] <Hentai_Jeff> and yes new dapper CDs of coarse
[07:12] <rendo> You want a handful of awesome OS.  Get DD, they're just like big titties!
[07:13] <troy_s> grv:  what's your question specifically?
[07:13] <jet87> lol
[07:13] <jbroome> whoah, we're all anxiously awaiting our double D's
[07:13] <rendo> Haha.
[07:13] <reXin> last i tried was flight 5... got my fingers crossed though
[07:13] <grv> no just wondering, did u get it working easily?
[07:13] <Saj> me gots a suspicion the dapper is ready, being uploaded as we speak:D........may be the deadline is a co ordination thing? ie make all the mirors, update all the sites, everything on same time?
[07:13] <axion`> i pine for DD's
[07:13] <grv> havent tried it yet
[07:13] <JoseStefan> i started with dapper Flight5
[07:13] <troy_s> grv:  multiple release versions i think with different chips... let me find a link.
[07:13] <Shotgun> hey, I need to find out how much ram there is on a machine running ubuntu, i have sshed to it using putty, so it will have to be through cmdlines, thx in advance
[07:13] <rendo> Well, until I get the official DD, I'll go molest my wife's DD wihle she sleeps. :P
[07:13] <grv> ya i got links and stuff troy_s
[07:13] <jbroome> i'm going to bed to dream of DD's.  night all
[07:13] <axion`> well from a collaborative standpoint, everything had to have been compiled when the 24 deadline came up
[07:13] <nbx909> Shotgun, free -m will tell you how much
[07:14] <reXin> dito. later
[07:14] <nbx909> Shotgun, that's in mb
[07:14] <maruchan> man i have a question that still cant get answered i'm trying to get my system back up, i uninstalled xorg, and now the x is broken, and when i try to install xorg-driver-fglrx, any help?
[07:14] <troy_s> grv:  i think it ultimately depends on what chip is driving it.
[07:14] <wims> do you think ndiswrapper will work after a dist upgrade?
[07:14] <troy_s> grv:  and if the idiots would just open there specs, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
[07:14] <paradizelos1> maruchan: i'm sorry to sound like an ass, but xorg IS the X system
[07:14] <rendo> Maybe I shouldn't have mentoned the correlation with Dapper Drake and Double D. :P
[07:14] <grv> lol
[07:14] <wims> i'm guessing..... no
[07:14] <orbin> maruchan: how did you uninstall xorg?
[07:14] <jet87> my "little" BB install got seriously fubared by xen after an update
[07:14] <rendo> All you uber nerds with no girlfriends will probably go and download porn now. :/
[07:15] <Shotgun> thx
[07:15] <troy_s> maruchan:  you will need some form of Xwindows to run a gui
[07:15] <axion`> my gf is sitting behind me for the record
[07:15] <maruchan> i know
[07:15] <Unenvarjo> good morning
[07:15] <Hentai_Jeff> rendo:what about us uber geeks with a wife and kids?
[07:15] <troy_s> maruchan:  which means removing xorg was not so good
[07:15] <ray__> hello all, will someone please help me with twinview? i've tried seemingly all howtos, tutorials, etc. with no success
[07:15] <rendo> Same boat as me Jeff?
[07:15] <maruchan>  but but when i try to reinstall xorg again, i get errors
[07:15] <troy_s> maruchan:  but not the end of the world.
[07:15] <wims> who needs a gf when you got a hand :D
[07:15] <rendo> Go molest the wife while she sleeps :P
[07:15] <maruchan> something about replacing a file, and not being allowed
[07:15] <rendo> It's always a surprise what she says.
[07:15] <troy_s> ray:  issue?
[07:15] <grv> did u do it as root?
[07:15] <grv> ~___~
[07:15] <Hentai_Jeff> got 2 boys
[07:15] <troy_s> maruchan:  boot to recovery mode, and try from there.
[07:16] <jayb> hey guys... anyone here got ununtu-server running on IBM XSeries hardware ?
[07:16] <Hentai_Jeff> one's nearly 4 months
[07:16] <maruchan> did that already too no go
[07:16] <rendo> Oldest is how old?
[07:16] <spartas> who needs a hand, i'm sure not volunteering mine
[07:16] <rendo> I have 2 boys too.
[07:16] <ray__> troy_s, yes, i cannot get the TV to display anything
[07:16] <Hentai_Jeff> the other's nearly 4 years
[07:16] <rendo> 15 months and 3 months.
[07:16] <Hentai_Jeff> he's a stepson though
[07:16] <rendo> Ah.
[07:16] <troy_s> maruchan:  well you will need to give us a little more information.. .like exact errors etc using pastebin.
[07:16] <axion`> is it possible to liveboot and copy the live xorg to your install?
[07:16] <Viaken> jay,dr18
[07:16] <rendo> They're fun. :D
[07:16] <Hentai_Jeff> and I'm planing to start him on the road to geekdom soon
[07:16] <Hentai_Jeff> :D
[07:16] <troy_s> ray:  have you tried the wiki?
[07:16] <rendo> People always tell me "You got your hands full"
[07:16] <JoseStefan> T minus 3284 minutes
[07:17] <rendo> I don't think they know what they're talking about.
[07:17] <rendo> IT's pretty easy actually.
[07:17] <maruchan> i get this error "dpkg rename invlolves overwriting '/usr/lib/libGL.so.1' with
[07:17] <maruchan> diffrent file 'usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa',
[07:17] <maruchan> not allowed"
[07:17] <rendo> Mione already is a nerd.
[07:17] <Hentai_Jeff> yeah I was scared as hell before my wife had our lil man
[07:17] <axion`> rendo, those kids are timebombs, you get them firgured out, then they turn 2
[07:17] <axion`> =)
[07:17] <rendo> Oldest anyways.  He plays the PS2 and knows how to turn on the PC and the monitor.
[07:17] <Saj> maruchan: of your looking to salvage files? then get a livecd which has ability to access the HDDs, as per my very limited linux knowledge i only know of PClinuxOS (my first full linux conversion...bin abt 3 days lol), but there are more such live CDs. once your booted salvage what you can;), in windows there is a emergency recovery disk, basicly has all the essentials and if something brakes, you boot via the erd and it patches he broken bits....there must
[07:17] <Saj> be something like this on linux? if not i think if you know what ned to be mended then grab a live cd which has a: can access to the drives and b: able to access internet and fix the files manualy;)
[07:17] <troy_s> maruchan: what is the command that you did that fubard your x?
[07:17] <jayb> Viaken - what do you mean ?? what is dr18 ?
[07:17] <rendo> WEll he doesn't play the PS2, he button mashes. :P
[07:17] <K|NgGh0sT> what does ubuntu make the rootpass to be?
[07:17] <maruchan> fubard?
[07:17] <Hentai_Jeff> but I'm about to start my oldest on linux :D
[07:18] <Flannel> !tell K|NgGh0sT about root
[07:18] <grv> button mashing is a skill
[07:18] <rendo> Awesome. :)
[07:18] <troy_s> maruchan:  dun broken it.
[07:18] <intelikey> free needs work.....
[07:18] <DShepherd> where is dapper :-(?
[07:18] <rendo> My wife REFUSES to even try Ubuntu.
[07:18] <intelikey> echo "`free -m | grep -e '-/+' | cut -b31- | tr -d ' '`m free"
[07:18] <maruchan> i did this on synamptic i uninstalled xorg, then it when broke
[07:18] <troy_s> !root
[07:18] <Hentai_Jeff> it's how he's gonna learn to read sort of
[07:18] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:18] <maruchan> i reboted and got this error
[07:18] <rendo> She's one of those "It ain't broke, don't fix it.  I know it, it works" kinda people.
[07:18] <Viaken> jayb, sorry. lol Wasn't paying attention and was cleaning my keys.
[07:18] <Flannel> rendo: install kubuntu, and install the windowsXP theme, she'll never know the difference.
[07:18] <Hentai_Jeff> lol
[07:18] <axion`> (F*ed Up Beyond Recognition)eD
[07:18] <troy_s> maruchan:  yes, then you boot to recovery and did a 'sudo apt-get install xorg' or something akin to that?
[07:18] <Hentai_Jeff> I gotta wonder if edubuntu would be right for my sons
[07:18] <jayb> HAHA ... ok.. great .:P
[07:19] <rob138> what command show's what process is using my sound?
[07:19] <grv> lol flannel
[07:19] <rendo> Hentai_Jeff going to have him use Windows at all?
[07:19] <Shotgun> a program i made has a memory leak, with not dealocating a hash table, as a result a large section of my memory is taken up by it, anyway to get it back, other then a reset?
[07:19] <troy_s> rendo:  it is broke.
[07:19] <Hentai_Jeff> later on
[07:19] <maruchan> umm i havent trie dthat troy, let me give that try as well
[07:19] <Soir> I'm intentionally giving Ubuntu to a non-computer-literate so they don't learn any other way
[07:19] <jayb> so guys.. Im getting some IBM xSeries servers in the next week.. and I want to use Ubuntu on them... but im concerned that Ill have to go redhat simply for driver support
[07:19] <Hentai_Jeff> he's gotta know some about it
[07:19] <intelikey> hehhe i had this system up and running an half setup befor i added a user account....
[07:19] <troy_s> maruchan:  it is easy enough to fix
[07:19] <rendo> troy_s: She's a woman, what else do you expect? :P
[07:19] <jayb> has anyone used ubuntu on this ahrdware ?
[07:19] <LeoStewart> isn't Dapper Drake going to be released in a few hours?
[07:19] <troy_s> maruchan:  which is why learning your way around a cli is important.
[07:19] <JoseStefan> install IE7 that should break things
[07:19] <Soir> if they want to learn windows after they know ubuntu, they're welcome to think about it
[07:19] <grv> nah your kid will become a windows fanboy, GAMES
[07:19] <axion`> Soir - he will be The One
[07:19] <troy_s> rendo:  just explain what using ms and apple does to the future for your kids.
[07:20] <axion`> yeah rendo, give them the M$ propaganda speech
[07:20] <maruchan> lol i learned more fixing x, these past day, then using ubuntu this past year
[07:20] <rendo> Haha.
[07:20] <Hentai_Jeff> call it an experement to see if someone who started with linux going over to windows has the same hurdles
[07:20] <ubuntubes> hi
[07:20] <grv> im running on m$ right now:O
[07:20] <LeoStewart> does anyone know when Dapper Drake will be released?
[07:20] <rendo> "They'll take our first born and turn him into a slave and harvest his organs for their programmers who REALLY need it"
[07:20] <OmniD> Well if I have the hardware support this version that I didn't before I'll be supporting Ubuntu a lot more than Apple.
[07:20] <troy_s> leo:  give it a day or so.
[07:20] <sime> LeoStewart: In 24hrs my guess
[07:20] <nbx909> LeoStewart, it is out unoffically
[07:20] <JoseStefan> LeoStewart: less than 17h
[07:20] <OmniD> I mean OSX
[07:20] <LeoStewart> troy_s alright, thanks.
[07:20] <spartas> grv, that's nothing, i'm running on os x now
[07:20] <Soir> axion`: I have had concern that she's spontaneously going to develop Lain-like tendencies and I'll come back after university one year to a house filled with cabling and pieces of hardware, yes. I'll watch for it. :)
[07:21] <Hentai_Jeff> same here while my ubuntu machine is down
[07:21] <mikedep333> #nvidia
[07:21] <grv> sOOOooo
[07:21] <LeoStewart> heh, alright, thanks.
[07:21] <mikedep333> !nvidia
[07:21] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:21] <troy_s> omnid:  that isn't the open source peoples fault.  vote with your money.
[07:21] <LeoStewart> good night.
[07:21] <Noah0504> JoseStefan: No you're talking!
[07:21] <Saj> ive tried linux many times, i keep switching for games:D (also cuz i doent know jack all abt linux, not even how file system wrks...untill recently lol)
[07:21] <Saj> other things are macromedia suite
[07:21] <nbx909> LeoStewart, http://digg.com/linux_unix/DAPPER_IS_OUT_
[07:21] <Saj> :D
[07:21] <Saj> and photoshop
[07:21] <JoseStefan> Noah0504: ??
[07:21] <nomin> anyone in here play games on linux or interested in emulating a keystrokes with a joystick/gamepad?
[07:21] <ubuntubes> is ubuntu 5.10 support hp proliant ML350 G2 ?
[07:21] <La_PaRCa> Wow. That was weird. Apparently my /home partition just went to read-only for no apparent reason. Anyone?
[07:21] <ray__> troy_s, are you still around?
[07:21] <jsestri2> Saj: fight the power, use linux as much as possible
[07:21] <troy_s> ubuntubes:  check the wiki...
[07:21] <troy_s> ray: go
[07:21] <Hentai_Jeff> ubuntubes:just give it a try
[07:22] <Hentai_Jeff> no harm in using a live CD
[07:22] <rendo> Saj: Dual-boot, just for games.
[07:22] <ray__> i apologize, i hit a wrong key combination and i don't know what happened. i had to restart
[07:22] <troy_s> jsestri2:  fight both powers ms and apple.  amen.
[07:22] <GianLuigiBuffon> viaken I guess that i'm doing ok
 ive tried linux many times, <<< i think 'tried' means  saw it some place.....   :)
[07:22] <troy_s> ray:  its ok.
[07:22] <Hentai_Jeff> seperate machines for me
[07:22] <rob138> what command show's what process is using my sound?
[07:22] <ray__> what does ctrl+alt+f1 do?
[07:22] <jsestri2> troy_s: at least apple is bsd based :-D
[07:22] <Saj> nomin: yeh me, tried CS already with some problem on wine...wanna get falcon 4:AF and LOMAC on here though...and working with me joystick:D
[07:22] <rendo> I tried linux like 5 times before I stuck with it.
[07:22] <GianLuigiBuffon> because is now doing several stuff on the konsole
[07:22] <La_PaRCa> Can anyone check launchpad for this bug? I cannot open firefox and I dont want to reboot so I can diagnose it.
[07:22] <Hentai_Jeff> though I'm on the ubuntu most of the time
[07:22] <troy_s> ray:  shifts to a virtual terminal
[07:22] <Viaken> I can't access www.ubuntu.com/download Has it gone live?
[07:22] <JoseStefan> ray__: switches to tty 1 (first console)
[07:22] <grv> nope
[07:22] <ray__> how do i escape from that in the future
[07:22] <grv> i can access it
[07:22] <ubuntubes> Hentai_Jeff I'm afraid it spoil my school server because that server have RAID
[07:22] <jayb> nope
[07:22] <axion`> Dapper should be a very easy version to "stick to" imo
[07:22] <grv> still says 5.10
[07:22] <Viaken> GianLuigiBuffon: That would be installing the files it just downloaded. Good luck, and enjoy the new shinies.
[07:22] <nomin> Saj, have you ever used qjoypad?
[07:22] <troy_s> ray:  to get back to graphics, flip to f7
[07:23] <phiqtion> how do i install a source program?
[07:23] <Viaken> Nevermind. False alarm. :P
[07:23] <phiqtion> from a .tar.gz file
[07:23] <Saj> rendo: thnx, tried that before...windows kept recking linux... lol
[07:23] <Viaken> Just my crappy connection I guess. lol
[07:23] <ubuntubes> troy_s : how to check wiki?
[07:23] <ray__> ctrl+alt+f7?
[07:23] <bimberi> La_PaRCa: that's a sign that it got errors - probably mounted with the errors=remount-ro option - backed up?
[07:23] <Saj> rendo: now i got 2hdds:D he he he
[07:23] <troy_s> ray:  you can flip from consoles to gui (on f7)
[07:23] <Hentai_Jeff> wait a bit and try the live CD thing ubuntubes
[07:23] <troy_s> !wiki
[07:23] <JoseStefan> ray__: you have cnsoles on F1 thru F6, and X on F7,    ctrl+alt+f7
[07:23] <jet87> i installed a few different distros, but ubuntu was the first one i was able to stick with for a while.  i don't remember why i had to go back to windows though
[07:23] <rendo> Saj: Install Windows first, then Linux.  I'm sure there's a way to edit the boot tables but I don't know that fancy crap.
[07:23] <troy_s> http:wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:23] <intelikey> ray__ yeah tty7 is the default location for X
[07:23] <Saj> nomin: whats that ?
[07:23] <bimberi> ubotu tell phiqtion about compiling
[07:23] <La_PaRCa> bimberi, um, the thing is, it mounted correctly. It was working until a minute ago.
[07:23] <ray__> ah, now i know
[07:23] <GianLuigiBuffon> viaken... yeah, after running your command, the updates appeared...and appeared a error wich told me to click "all upgrades" on synaptics... and thats what I done.
[07:23] <Hentai_Jeff> personaly I can't wait for Cedega to get better
[07:24] <rendo> Me too.
[07:24] <ray__> back to twinview problem
[07:24] <GianLuigiBuffon> I guess that after all i'll reboot and I'll have dapper
[07:24] <Saj> rendo: hmmm, yeh but you forget you have to keep installing windows every week or so lol
[07:24] <bimberi> La_PaRCa: as i said ...
[07:24] <ubuntubes> Hentai_Jeff : is live cd dont do damage on the systems?
[07:24] <troy_s> wiki [string]  says ubotu
[07:24] <rendo> Soon as I get my new PC, I'm getting cedega.
[07:24] <rob138> anybody, what command show's what process is using my sound?
[07:24] <grv> i dont think cedega will ever become as good as native dx though:/
[07:24] <La_PaRCa> bimberi, ok, how can I know what caused the errors?
[07:24] <ray__> mind if i post contents of xorg.conf to pastebin really quick?
[07:24] <Hentai_Jeff> yes ubuntubes
[07:24] <nomin> Saj, it emulates keystrokes and the mouse on linux:  http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/
[07:24] <rendo> Saj: Only if you screw it up all the time.
[07:24] <Viaken> GianLuigiBuffon: That's the idea.
[07:24] <troy_s> ray:  google virtual terminals in linux... should be good learning.
[07:24] <Hentai_Jeff> grv:that goes without saying
[07:24] <nomin> Saj, it's a great program, but it doesn't run on ubuntu yet
[07:24] <bimberi> La_PaRCa: i'm not sure - poke around dmesg and in /var/log
[07:24] <troy_s> ray: are you having issues with x?
[07:24] <JoseStefan> 80% Complete :P
[07:24] <ubuntubes> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! <-- is this true?
[07:24] <Hentai_Jeff> the developers are about to have the vista hurdle
[07:24] <intelikey> ray__ alt+left-arrow  is a surefire way to find a running X from the console.... it switches one tty left each press.
[07:24] <troy_s> ray:  the kind of 'golden rule' is to set your driver to vesa
[07:24] <Flannel> ubuntubes: yes.
[07:24] <GianLuigiBuffon> thks a lot viaken. I hope to leave the noob stat and could help new users :)
[07:24] <Viaken> Virtual terminals are WONDERFUL.
[07:25] <grv> it will be a LONG time before there are some hardcore games on linux
[07:25] <troy_s> ray:  and start from there
[07:25] <Saj> rendo: i got it sorted now:D 2 hdds is theway. to boot linux or windows i simply switch the hdd for it to look in first...and keep it single boot:) woks like a charm;)
[07:25] <Viaken> GianLuigiBuffon: Just be willing to give it a go and you'll get there.
[07:25] <JoseStefan> ubuntubes: less than 17h now
[07:25] <ray__> i cannot get TV to display
[07:25] <Viaken> grv: You mean like Enemy Territory? UT2k4?
[07:25] <troy_s> ray:  oh yes... the twinview...
[07:25] <rendo> Saj: That's so complicated and un-lazy, what's wrong with you!
[07:25] <troy_s> wiki twinview
[07:25] <Viaken> NWN?
[07:25] <paradon> grv: Quake 3?
[07:25] <ray__> i've got the monitor working obviously
[07:25] <ubuntubes> YAHHHHOOooooooo....
[07:25] <troy_s> did you check the wiki?
[07:25] <Merturk_NB|hw> i'm having a problem getting a barcode scanner to work properly
[07:25] <La_PaRCa> bimberi, care to help me figure it out? I got the error on dmesg but I have no idea what it means.
[07:25] <grv> those are a FEW titles
[07:25] <Viaken> Doom 3?
[07:25] <ray__> troy_s, yes
[07:25] <GianLuigiBuffon> yeah, after i'll go nback to updates and install all that the system request me
[07:25] <Viaken> Quake 4, too, I think.
[07:25] <JoseStefan> grv, id Software's entire product line is available for linux
[07:25] <ubuntubes> I'm going to wait for this....
[07:26] <nomin> Saj, do you think you would ever use qjoypad if you could?
[07:26] <Saj> rendo: doent know:D i got the linux virus:D no more lazy:D:D:D
[07:26] <ray__> i've read plenty of howtos, tutorials, you name it
[07:26] <grv> ok, thats only several games:/
[07:26] <paradizelos1> so will there be an automatic upgrade from breezy?
[07:26] <grv> you know what im talking about
[07:26] <lwarimav> I have a problem with firefox. After installing some extensions, I couldn't restart firefox. What should I do?????
[07:26] <troy_s> ray:  hrm... iirc isn't twinview in juxtaposition to dual headed mode?  its an nvidia thing no?
[07:26] <Saj> nomin: let me get more info on it...see what it allows etc.
[07:26] <Unenvarjo>  Unreal Tournament works, if I recall correctly
[07:26] <troy_s> ray:  did you check into more pure dual head modes?
[07:26] <rendo> lwarimav: run it in the terminal and see where the errors come up.
[07:26] <axion`> does CS:Source work?
[07:26] <grv> on cedega
[07:26] <Viaken> Unenvarjo: I run Unreal Tourney 2004 on mine.
[07:26] <troy_s> ray:  pastebin your conf
[07:26] <kbrosnan> lwarimav, what version of firefox
[07:26] <Viaken> axion`: I don't think so, yet.
[07:26] <intelikey> lwarimav did you test if the issue is local or system wide ?
[07:26] <glick> dapper not released yet :/
[07:26] <Hentai_Jeff> America's army has a linux version
[07:26] <grv> im not sure what the frames are though
[07:26] <bimberi> La_PaRCa: put it on the pastebin, but don't just ask me.  It's not an area of expertise for me (touches wood)
[07:26] <Saj> nomin: hell yes:D
[07:26] <Viaken> Cedega/wine's working on it.
[07:27] <Hentai_Jeff> though they're canceling it
[07:27] <lwarimav> 1.5.0.1
[07:27] <grv> i play cs:s competitively, so i pretty much stick with windows
[07:27] <La_PaRCa> bimberi, gonna try and remount it somehow and will come back
[07:27] <Unenvarjo> viaken, I've got 2003 on mine, the 2004 was too expensive for my student budget back then :D
[07:27] <Viaken> Hentai_Jeff: They are? I was wondering why the latest version didn't get released on Linux. :(
[07:27] <Noah0504> Is there a reason the stream I'm listening to stops after everysong?  I have to restart Rhythmbox and start it again for it to play.
[07:27] <kbrosnan> lwarimav, try firefox's safe mode
[07:27] <lwarimav> intelikey: version 1.5
[07:27] <DShepherd> its finally June 1st here
[07:27] <rob138> what command show's what process is using my sound?
[07:27] <nomin> Saj, the reasons I'm interested are:  1) I would like to see qjoypad made for ubuntu and 2) there are minor things that need to be fixed on it.  I emailed the developer and he says he has no time to develop it and needs help.
[07:27] <intelikey> lwarimav did you test if the issue is local or system wide ?
[07:27] <ray__> troy_s, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14943
[07:27] <axion`> i think it's funny the servers run linux but they wont make the game to support it...
[07:27] <kbrosnan> lwarimav, Firefox's safe mode is a good way to find out if an extension/theme or user set preferences are causing your problem. See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode
[07:27] <ubuntubes> if ubuntu 6.06 out.. then server will going slow.. alot of people will download this latest ubuntu.. haha
[07:27] <Hentai_Jeff> yep Viaken but start sending in protests
[07:27] <troy_s> noah: that shouldn't happen.  have you tried it with other streams?
[07:27] <Hentai_Jeff> they'll probubaly listen
[07:27] <intelikey> lwarimav i'm the one that sujested you add a user "something"
[07:27] <sklav> hi guys im having an issue
[07:28] <axion`> im hopping on the torrent when it goes live =)
[07:28] <Hentai_Jeff> the main guy wanted to keep it going
[07:28] <sklav> my networking is all screwed up after a dist-upgrade
[07:28] <troy_s> ray:  are you getting any errors in your xlog or ???
[07:28] <sklav> eth0 and eth1 have been replaced by eth2 and eth3
[07:28] <Noah0504> troy_s: Yes.
[07:28] <Linuturk> got a link to the offical torrent?
[07:28] <JoseStefan> does anyone like the ed2k network?
[07:28] <rob138> whats the diff between the release canidate and what's coming out in hours?
[07:28] <Xaero_Vincent> yep 3 million people use Ubuntu... the servers will be packed
[07:28] <nomin> Saj, I can use it on mandriva2005 and it works great except for a few small things.  I also use it to control multimedia that I watch on my tv.  I have an usb extension for my controller so I can control the mouse and browser.
[07:28] <Saj> nomin: does it work with home made bottuns and switches which would be plugged into game port?
[07:28] <lwarimav> intelikey : my firefox is in Ubuntu
[07:28] <myleftfoot> if everyone jumps on the torrent when it goes live it should make for sweet download speeds
[07:28] <sklav> and for the life of me i cannot find where ubuntu is getting this info
[07:28] <rendo> Only 3 million?
[07:28] <rendo> Or is that a lot?
[07:28] <ray__> troy_s, xlog?
[07:28] <JoseStefan> rob138: Release Candidate is 1 week old :o
[07:28] <troy_s> noah:  strange weird.  can't say that it would be rhythm's fault because i am pretty sure there are a 1000 folks running it fine.
[07:28] <Hentai_Jeff> rendo:for a linux distro it's alot
[07:28] <ray__> i'm obviously new to this
[07:29] <grv> lol
[07:29] <troy_s> ray:  in your var/log, look to your x*.log files.
[07:29] <Hentai_Jeff> compaired to windows it's chicken feed
[07:29] <rob138> JoseStefan, not a terrible difference then
[07:29] <rob138> what command show's what process is using my sound?
[07:29] <intelikey> lwarimav are you not in ubuntu ?
[07:29] <nomin> Saj, it works as long as linux recongnizes it.
[07:29] <ubuntubes> does anybody know how to set the initial bootup into shell prompt?
[07:29] <sklav> how dow one call a module with an alias
[07:29] <Noah0504> troy_s: Hmm, I'll keep messing with it.
[07:29] <lwarimav> intelikey: yes I am
[07:29] <K|NgGh0sT> what is the best .rar handler?
[07:29] <troy_s> ray:  that's totally fine.  learning is the key to helping out others.
[07:29] <Saj> rendo: i got it.:D he he he. ill figure out how to get a external switch to change settings in the bios. ie hae a 2 way switch (button) which chooses the drive order..:D:D:D what you think?
[07:29] <sklav> eth0 is not found but its found under the name eth3
[07:29] <nomin> Saj, I don't know too many of the technical aspects of it, but it says on the website that it is based on linux's ability to recognize a joystick.
[07:29] <rendo> I'll do my part in the next few years, I plan to startup a computer shop in my area and I plan to expand to the entire northern region of the province, will offer PC's either barebone or with Ubuntu. ;)  No windows. :b
[07:30] <JoseStefan> ubuntube: you might need to mess with your init scripts, the wiki may have something on that
[07:30] <Viaken> axion`: Meanwhile your other hand is rewriting the kernel and writing shell scripts that feed your cat?
[07:30] <rendo> Saj: Master and Slave. :b
[07:30] <troy_s> kingghost:  if you add the rar support, the default archiver should handle rar.
[07:30] <rpaul> sklav: have you rebooted since the dist upgrade?
[07:30] <axion`> pfft hell no
[07:30] <sklav> yes rpaul
[07:30] <sklav> many times
[07:30] <intelikey> lwarimav i'm sorry. i fail to see the relevance of "<lwarimav> intelikey : my firefox is in Ubuntu"  <--- i don't do windows....
[07:30] <axion`> hehe
[07:30] <sklav> no change
[07:30] <ray__> what should i be looking for in the Xorg.0.log?
[07:30] <K|NgGh0sT> troy_s: apt-get install rar?
[07:30] <grv> jack up ur prices a few bucks and tell them they get a discount for coming preinstalled with ubuntu:P
[07:30] <troy_s> sklav:  are 0 and 1 still there?
[07:30] <Hentai_Jeff> rendo good luck actully running that store
[07:30] <troy_s> king:  apt-cache search rar
[07:30] <nomin> Saj, I would like to get more people interested in it so that it's made for more distros and so that the minor things can be fixed.  I think it's the only program necessary for using the joystick or gamepad on linux.
[07:30] <sklav> troy_s, no they are not
[07:30] <lwarimav> intelikey: I use Ubuntu
[07:30] <ubuntubes> JoseStefan : ok than i'm going to do something on it
[07:30] <Saj> rendo: already that order....:D windows is the slave ofcourse he eh eh
[07:31] <rendo> Saj: :P
[07:31] <JoseStefan> ray__: there is a way to "reset" your xorg config, if it makes you feel better
[07:31] <sklav> they are now seen as eth2 and eth3
[07:31] <bkh> Clint Eastwood pilots my Firefox.
[07:31] <Hentai_Jeff> though I'd get a laptop from you :D
[07:31] <intelikey> lwarimav yes.   and did you add a user and try to start ff as that user ?
[07:31] <Saj> nomin: i would help if i could but im a total noob my self:D atleast on linux lol
[07:31] <nbx909> Bob Dole powers mine
[07:31] <nbx909> lol
[07:31] <troy_s> sklav:  erm... and this was dist-upgrade?
[07:31] <ray__> josestefan, how's that? and what will that accomplish?
[07:31] <sklav> yes troy_s
[07:31] <bkh> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083943/
[07:31] <sklav> dist-upgrade
[07:31] <rendo> Hentai_Jeff: Thanks, I really have a huge dislike for Windows and there's no need paying $100 to make a machine for people.
[07:31] <rpaul> Is there anywork being done to make the upgrade done through ubuntu torrent based.  That would surely reduce the server load for those dist-upgrading
[07:31] <troy_s> sklav:  well i will say that it is fixable for certain.  sounds like a skript borked you a bit.
[07:31] <JoseStefan> ray__: in case "something" messed it up, it should be good as new again
[07:32] <grv> wow
[07:32] <sklav> any idea which 1?
[07:32] <grv> clint eastwood._____.
[07:32] <lwarimav> intelikey: I am connected to a server. And My profile is registered in the server...
[07:32] <axion`> rpaul, thats an awesome idea. to expand upon that... why doesn't Steam do that as well?
[07:32] <Hentai_Jeff> something I've been thinking about doing it making a net and local based uber PC shop
[07:32] <grv> 5.5/10, poor firefox
[07:32] <ray__> troy_s, what should i be looking for in the Xorg.0.log?
[07:32] <kbrosnan> lwarimav, before going through the add a user step there are a number of firefox trouble shooting steps, the first being to start firefox's safe mode
[07:32] <troy_s> sklav:  are they active etc?
[07:32] <ray__> josestefan, how do you reset it?
[07:32] <sklav> something todo with how the kernel loaded the module and associated alias
[07:32] <maruchan> thank you troy
[07:32] <rpaul> axion`: yeah, blizzard does it with there updated for WoW
[07:32] <maruchan>  i have it running again
[07:32] <sklav> yes im on the system now
[07:32] <troy_s> ray:  look for errors related to the nvidia end of things
[07:32] <ray__> i know about creating backups and such
[07:32] <nomin> Saj, well if you see more people that want to play games or have mouse and keyboard emulation with the joystick, just tell them about qjoypad.  Do you agree that it's a very useful program?
[07:32] <DarkTower> Hentai_Jeff: with ubuntu preinstalled :)
[07:32] <troy_s> maruchan:  yay
[07:33] <intelikey> lwarimav remote desktop ?
[07:33] <axion`> that's because blizzard is king of flawless execution
[07:33] <Hentai_Jeff> so ppl that want that kick ass looking and running PC but haven't the time to do it can still get it
[07:33] <sklav> what is the equivalent of modprobe.conf on ubuntu?
[07:33] <Viaken> You know...I was thinking. Couldn't someone make a package manager that used torrents instead of fetching the files normally? Or, at least, the larger files?
[07:33] <troy_s> maruchan:  now spread the ubuntu.
[07:33] <Hentai_Jeff> and ubuntu would be an option yes
[07:33] <JoseStefan> ray__: remember, to make a copy first. let me look for it
[07:33] <SurfnKid> has anyone installed the lm_sensors yet?
[07:33] <lwarimav> intelikey: I do not see any safe mode*
[07:33] <Joetheodd> How do I create a shared folder on my Linux box that I can put files in from another Linux box (Warty live CD)?
[07:33] <ubuntubes> is apt-get update process will changing my edited script?
[07:33] <rendo> Hentai_Jeff: Mine will start out most likely as a hardware/repair place and once I get the business, start making preset machines while still offering custom built and basic hardware options.
[07:33] <majd> can you create restore points in ubuntu?
[07:33] <troy_s> joetheodd:  use ssh
[07:33] <SurfnKid> I downloaded the i2c and lm_sensors from the site but when i unzip them, whats next?
[07:33] <intelikey> lwarimav i didn't say safe mode
[07:33] <RopeHead> rob138, fuser -v /dev/dsp
[07:33] <JoseStefan> ray__: try this --> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:33] <rpaul> Viaken: it just makes sense aye.  doesn't seem to be done any any distros i can think of
[07:33] <intelikey> lwarimav that was someone else
[07:33] <troy_s> joetheodd:  everything else is ugly insecure.
[07:33] <axion`> yeah it's about time the torrent technology get's widely adopted
[07:34] <troy_s> !ssh
[07:34] <DarkTower> Hentai_Jeff: its a good idea
[07:34] <Hentai_Jeff> I'd give it 2 years of me being an actual success before Dell buys me
[07:34] <ubotu> [ssh]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[07:34] <nbx909> Joetheodd, http://krazypenguin.net/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide#How_to_share_folders_the_easy_way
[07:34] <kbrosnan> lwarimav, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode
[07:34] <rob138> ropehead, thanks ill try that
[07:34] <lwarimav> intelikey: oups
[07:34] <Viaken> Have, in the repositories, .torrents for the larger files..and have some code in the package manager that says "if $downloaded_file.name ~= .torrent { btdownload $downloaded_file }; install(); }"?
[07:34] <Hentai_Jeff> or tries
[07:34] <rendo> Hentai_Jeff: Don't succumb. :P
[07:34] <[1] Troy> At my request, would all you guys mind NOT downloading DAPPER right away?  I dont want to wait for slow download... kk thx.
[07:34] <ampersand> why is Dapper not being released at 0:00 I have been waiting two days for this
[07:34] <axion`> torrent it, troy =)
[07:34] <bkh> ampersand: Just to mess with you
[07:34] <thug> hi all
[07:34] <[1] Troy> axion - from where???
[07:34] <Saj> nomin: are there any more like qpad?
[07:34] <Hentai_Jeff> hey I could make it where they can but only if they start offering ubuntu on their PCs
[07:34] <grv> they are waiting for 0:00 gmt -12
[07:34] <thug> its dapper available yet ?
[07:34] <ubuntubes> does anybody know that is apt-get update process will changing my edited script?
[07:35] <jtd> majd just asked a good question: can you create restore points in Ubuntu?  Or something like them?
[07:35] <nbx909> thug, not offically but we believe we've found it
[07:35] <Joetheodd> troy_s: It's all behind a hardware firewall - I'm just transfering over my LAN.
[07:35] <ray__> troy_s, please look at this
[07:35] <troy_s> wow how leet.
[07:35] <ray__> (--) PCI:*(2:0:0) nVidia Corporation unknown chipset (0x0185) rev 193, Mem @ 0xfd000000/24, 0xe8000000/27, BIOS @ 0xfeae0000/17
[07:35] <nbx909> thug, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570
[07:35] <Viaken> [1] Troy: You don't have to worry about me. I'm not gonna attempt it on my dialup. :P
[07:35] <DarkTower> Hentai_Jeff: They almost did have it preinstalled on a laptop instead of XP
[07:35] <Noah0504> troy_s: I lied.  I just found a stream that doesn't do that.  But I still wonder why some of the others are.
[07:35] <troy_s> joe:  that's fine.  just make sure 22 is open.
[07:35] <[1] Troy> lol viaken
[07:35] <DarkTower> Hentai_Jeff: OOps that was HP
[07:35] <nomin> Saj, not that I know of.  I've looked and found nothing like it.  I think something like this should be a standard program that comes with every distro.
[07:35] <Hentai_Jeff> Dell thought about it
[07:35] <Viaken> jtd: You could probably just backup /etc/, or everything except /home/ and use that as a restore point.
[07:35] <thug> nbx909 what do you mean you belive you`ll find it ?
[07:35] <JoseStefan> in true fairness, they are waiting for all countries to pass to 1st of June (just a guess)
[07:35] <troy_s> laf...
[07:35] <rendo> DarkTower: I can't see them doing it though, they can't bloat Ubuntu as easily as they can XP with crap. :)
[07:35] <Hentai_Jeff> their servers use fedora core too
[07:36] <DShepherd> what are they waiting for?
[07:36] <[1] Troy> axion?? - you know torrent site for it?
[07:36] <Viaken> !dapper
[07:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[07:36] <troy_s> uh ray:  you will need nvidia drivers
[07:36] <nbx909> thug, we believe we have found
[07:36] <nomin> Saj, I think qjoypad just needs to be promoted more.
[07:36] <nbx909> thug, it
[07:36] <nbx909> lol
[07:36] <troy_s> ray:  you aren't using them are you?
[07:36] <rendo> Wait.
[07:36] <troy_s> !nvidia
[07:36] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:36] <rendo> LTS is the final version of DApper?
[07:36] <Viaken> They'll be releasing whenever they ---- well please.
[07:36] <ampersand> screw the other countries I want it now!
[07:36] <sklav> anybody know where i can specify for example alias 8139too eth1
[07:36] <jtd> Viaken: that procedure sounds sketchy to me :)
[07:36] <rpaul> it's been the 1st here for 17 and a 1/2 hours.   why are we wating for the slow people :)
[07:36] <Hentai_Jeff> but M$ told Dell no
[07:36] <ray__> troy_s, yes i am
[07:36] <Viaken> ~lts
[07:36] <Viaken> !lts
[07:36] <ubotu> well, lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[07:36] <Viaken> jtd: I'm all about sketchy. :D
[07:36] <JoseStefan> ray__: try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:36] <troy_s> ray:  and gl is working all well and good?
[07:36] <thug> nbx909 well give me the link then :)
[07:36] <ray__> refer to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14943
[07:36] <troy_s> ray:  listen to jose for a few...
[07:36] <axion`> This is today's daily build torrent - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/dapper-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent NOT THE FINAL AFAIK
[07:36] <DarkTower> rendo: haha. but i think HP really will, they actual made a version of ubuntu with supprt for all parts of that laptop available on their website in case you wanted to get rid of XP. Bet m$ put the pinch on em at the last moment
[07:36] <jtd> heh.
[07:37] <nbx909> thug http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570
[07:37] <[1] Troy> thx man.
[07:37] <rendo> DarkTower: *shakes fist* Those bastards.
[07:37] <Joetheodd> nbx909: thanks, looks mega-easy
[07:37] <Saj> nomin: true, i bet you can use it for remotely controling model aircraft:D via your linux box
[07:37] <ray__> geez... what's gl?
[07:37] <Hentai_Jeff> BTW is there anything different offered on the ubuntu server version then the text only install?
[07:37] <ubuntubes> does anybody know where to put the web folder ? i have installed apache
[07:37] <sklav> anybody?
[07:37] <axion`> Hentai_Jeff... u mean "other" than?
[07:37] <DarkTower> rendo: how amazing would it be for a major vendor like that to be preinstalling ubuntu
[07:37] <lwarimav> intelikey: my computer is connected to a network centralised to a server that registered all profile usine this computer... So my firefox doen't work.... Now my question is should i solve it localy on the PC, or I have to edit my profile on the server?????
[07:37] <sklav> where can i add alias 8139too eth0
[07:38] <rendo> DarkTower: It would be a dream come true to the community.
[07:38] <axion`> yes, the link i posted is the daily build liveCD
[07:38] <rpaul> axion`: the desktop live CD has a graphical installer
[07:38] <JoseStefan> ray
[07:38] <DarkTower> rendo: bill gates would cry lol
[07:38] <JoseStefan> ray__: did you get that?
[07:38] <troy_s> joetheodd:  it doesn't matter if it is secure or not.  learn ssh - it is an amazingly useful too.
[07:38] <nomin> Saj, there's probably quite a few uses people can get out of mouse and keyboard emulation.
[07:38] <troy_s> joetheodd: tool.
[07:38] <mikedep333> !runlevel
[07:38] <ubotu> mikedep333: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:38] <spikeb> be nice if HP contributed patches
[07:38] <mikedep333> !runlevels
[07:38] <ubotu> mikedep333: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:38] <rendo> DarkTower: And it would all be caught on tape, and it would be the most downloaded torrent in history. :P
[07:38] <DarkTower> hehehe
[07:38] <Unenvarjo> ubuntubes, after installing apache you should create public_html/ in your home directory for a web folder
[07:38] <blurtblurt> wow. Dapper still doesn't autoload kernel drivers for PCMCIA cards
[07:38] <thug> nbx909 thanks you ... its that the official release ?
[07:38] <CHodapp> Why does Ubuntu seem to be a massive target for hatred?
[07:38] <Hentai_Jeff> hmm I just remembered a cosplay skit from a few years back
[07:38] <ray__> yes, josestefan. i've run that earlier today actually when i installed this nvidia card
[07:38] <Hentai_Jeff> has anyone seen chobits?
[07:38] <Saj> dapper out yet?
[07:39] <ampersand> i am working on clearing out my computer to do a fresh install right now
[07:39] <spikeb> read the topic
[07:39] <Viaken> Not yet, Saj.
[07:39] <ray__> troy_s, what is gl?
[07:39] <axion`> CHodapp, because of its potential for greatness, and the normal troll hatred of things that are popular
[07:39] <Saj> viaken: :(
[07:39] <spikeb> gl = opengl, a graphics system
[07:39] <guest_> 69_@ yahoo.com
[07:39] <troy_s> ray:  opengl.  do you get the nvidia boot logo when it loads?
[07:39] <Zambini> Hey, someone wanna help me with vnc and an ubuntu>XP connection? pm me
[07:39] <eigenlambda> CHodapp: because it's more successful than others
[07:39] <ubuntubes> Unenvarjo : is that all so anybody can access to my web?
[07:39] <thug> nbx909 hope you didnt give me the beta release ;)
[07:39] <JoseStefan> ray__: alternativly, you could do it without the -phigh paramter, and it will ask you a lot of questions, i suggest using the "nv" driver instead of "nvidia" for the time being
[07:39] <ray__> troy_s, yes i did until i turned it off
[07:39] <CHodapp> It's certainly been getting a lot of publicity for being apparently a lot more easier than Windows to install and set up
[07:39] <eigenlambda> trolls like to go wherever the people are
[07:39] <Viaken> CHodapp: No matter what it is, you'll always find someone who hates it.
[07:39] <fiendskull9> doesnt dapper come out today? (tommorow, whatever you wanna say)
[07:39] <eigenlambda> of course
[07:40] <Hentai_Jeff> Chodapp:it has?
[07:40] <grv> !dapper
[07:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[07:40] <eigenlambda> to remind them that cthulhu is coming
[07:40] <Unenvarjo> ubuntubes, yes. It shows as http://yourhost.yourdomain/~youraccount/ when using a browser
[07:40] <jtd> fiendskull9: should do, yes.
[07:40] <paradon> thug: nbx909 gave you the latest daily build, which some people here think will be identical to the same release.
[07:40] <fiendskull9> yayaya
[07:40] <fiendskull9> i cant wait
[07:40] <troy_s> ray:  ok well then you are def on the driver...
[07:40] <Hentai_Jeff> most ppl don't even see windows geting installed
[07:40] <CHodapp> Hentai_Jeff, relative to other distros, at least.
[07:40] <mikedep333> can anyone tell me how to check what runs on what runlevels in dapper?
[07:40] <majd> i've seen that message 15 times in the last 2 minutes lol
[07:40] <ray__> josestefan, i'm currently having no problems on my desktop, i just can't get svideo out to work on TV
[07:40] <CHodapp> Hentai_Jeff, nope, they don't.
[07:40] <jtd> I should have had a Dapper release party :)
[07:40] <troy_s> ray:  do a little hunting under dual head mode.  twinview is some driver mod by nvidia.
[07:40] <Hentai_Jeff> so they don't really know
[07:40] <fiendskull9> probably around 8-9 am CST?
[07:40] <lwarimav> kbrosnan:my computer is connected to a network centralised to a server that registered all profile usine this computer... So my firefox doen't work.... Now my question is should i solve it localy on the PC, or I have to edit my profile on the server?????
[07:40] <troy_s> ray:  dual head mode is the more x-windows pure way of doing that sort of thing.
[07:40] <rendo> I wonder how pissed my wife would be if she woke up to Ubuntu as her OS.....
[07:40] <DarkTower> will the official ubuntu book be coming out in print??
[07:40] <ubuntubes> Unenvarjo : no I dont want ~ , I just want it to be on root
[07:40] <spikeb> heh
[07:40] <JoseStefan> ray__: oh, i thought you had X starting problems :S
[07:41] <grv> rendo, how good is she with comps?
[07:41] <Zambini> Hey, someone wanna help me with vnc and an ubuntu>XP connection? pm me
[07:41] <jtd> rendo: back it up first, then upgrade her to Ubuntu :)
[07:41] <spikeb> my wife thought it was cool when she'd wake up without windows on her pc
[07:41] <spikeb> long as it booted
[07:41] <ray__> sorry, josestefan. i should have specified
[07:41] <grv> is there anything she does that she cant possibly do on nix
[07:41] <rendo> grv: She's an idiot. :P
[07:41] <Unenvarjo> ubuntubese, oh. The root apache directory is /var/www something
[07:41] <fiendskull9> rendo, ive considered installing slackware 2.3 without a gui on one of my enemys computers
[07:41] <grv> exactly
[07:41] <Saj> rendo: lol hahaha, what she using atm?
[07:41] <nomin> Saj: have you tried cedega yet?
[07:41] <rendo> saj: XP. :/
[07:41] <JoseStefan> ray__: maybe i missed something, it is pretty cluttered in here :o
[07:41] <CHodapp> fiendskull9, is this person a PC lover?
[07:41] <DarkTower> rendo: my gf loves it. hates windows now. AFter she saw how much more quickly devices like camera and ipod worked, out with windows
[07:41] <fiendskull9> CHodapp, no, one of those, IE and AIM on the desktop type of people
[07:41] <jtd> fiendskull9: doesn't Slack have a reasonably easy to use package manager that would let them install a gui pretty fast?
[07:41] <ubuntubes> Unenvarjo : oo so meaning that I have to paste it into www right?
[07:41] <ray__> troy_s, so do you know much about dual head mode?
[07:41] <rendo> DarkTower: Well she bugs me all the time about the stupidest things.
[07:42] <VR_> i wish wireless would work better.
[07:42] <intelikey> lwarimav looks like you are going to need some advanced help there.  myself being network illiterate, i'm not sure if you are talking about a remote desktop from a terminal server or just a lan config.  so i will have to defer you to more qualified help.    crimson maybe ?
[07:42] <fiendskull9> jtd, we are talking 2.3, like 1996 here :P
[07:42] <Saj> nomin: no, just been on wine for the last few days...is cedega easier to operate then wine, i mean is it reali as simple as rag and drop?
[07:42] <zcat[1] > http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso  -- is this it? :-)
[07:42] <jtd> fiendskull9: hahahahaha :D
[07:42] <ray__> josestefan, it's very cluttered in here!
[07:42] <DarkTower> rendo: lol shes your wife, thats her job
[07:42] <troy_s> ray:  done a couple times.  it should seem easy compared to twinview :)
[07:42] <Unenvarjo> ubuntubes: umm, no. The /var/www/ is visible by default. Just put content in there :)
[07:42] <CHodapp> fiendskull9, I have a floppy disk that makes a ramdisk and runs MacOS 6 or something on it in 512x384... all monochrome
[07:42] <rendo> DarkTower: Like "I downloaded this torrent for <TYCOON GAME HERE> and it's a .dmg file, how do I make it so it works on windows"
[07:42] <fiendskull9> jtd, but i beleive they even used slapt back then, but the repositories would be weird
[07:42] <Unenvarjo> it shows as http://yourhost.yourdomain/
[07:42] <kbrosnan> lwarimav, none of that should matter just "firefox -safe-mode" in a console window
[07:42] <Saj> rendo: install a theme that looks like xp lol hahaha confuse her;)
[07:42] <rendo> So I come here, and ask since I'm tired as shit and I don't know macs at all.
[07:42] <fiendskull9> CHodapp, lmao
[07:42] <DarkTower> rendo: heheh
[07:42] <jtd> fiendskull9: and by "weird" we mean "not there" :)
[07:42] <fiendskull9> Saj, they have those, they are pretty nice
[07:42] <rendo> Learn it's for macs and won't work on windows. :P
[07:42] <eigenlambda> you mean system 6
[07:42] <fiendskull9> jtd, lol
[07:42] <PPower> _nano_: Hello again! I have finally fixed it!!!
[07:42] <ray__> troy_s, any good places to learn how to accomplish dual head?
[07:42] <Viaken> I'd love to get my g/f running Linux of any type, but she's so attached to MSN's piddly lil features that the open source IM clients haven't caught up with (or avoid for good reason)...
[07:42] <rendo> So I beat her.
[07:42] <threat> is it released yet?
[07:42] <CHodapp> eigenlambda, yes, I probably do.
[07:42] <Unenvarjo> ubuntubes, and any directory under /var/www/ shows as http://yourhost.blahblah/mydir/
[07:42] <eigenlambda> it wasn't called "mac os" until 7.6
[07:43] <eigenlambda> hehe
[07:43] <JoseStefan> rendo: try daemon tools for windows
[07:43] <eigenlambda> jinxt
[07:43] <troy_s> ray:  start with the wiki, then the forums.  i am pretty sure you will hit success shortly.
[07:43] <jtd> yeah
[07:43] <ubuntubes> Unenvarjo : oo i got it... thanks
[07:43] <jtd> it was "System 7.5"
[07:43] <CHodapp> eigenlambda, uses VMac... pretty handy because it's light.
[07:43] <Unenvarjo> np
[07:43] <fiendskull9> Viaken, kopete has some nice little piddley features
[07:43] <rendo> JoseStefan: Doesn't work with .dmg files, unless there's a newer version that supports it.
[07:43] <lwarimav> intelikey: Its a lan config
[07:43] <_nano_> PPower: congrats! \o./
[07:43] <Hentai_Jeff> rendo:your wife prefers macs?
[07:43] <axion`> maybe PowerISO?
[07:43] <Unenvarjo> ubuntubes, check if I'm right though, I have a terrible memory and I almost never use the apache root directory
[07:43] <troy_s> ray:  off to beddy.  good luck.  and if you don't hit it, just come back.  this place has plenty of knowledgable folks
[07:43] <Viaken> fiendskull9: I'll look into it. :P
[07:43] <rendo> Hentai_Jeff: No, she downloaded a .dmg file and tried to get it to work on a PC machine.
[07:43] <jtd> especially 10.4
[07:43] <fiendskull9> My schools computers run OSX tiger, and i primarily use the terminal for everything
[07:44] <ray__> thanks for the help, troy_s
[07:44] <Hentai_Jeff> hmm
[07:44] <fiendskull9> dont need no fancy aqua gui :P
[07:44] <rendo> PowerISO converted it, but wouldn't emulate it.
[07:44] <CHodapp> My school computers are mostly Windows
[07:44] <_nano_> PPower: so how did you solve it? i'm really curious :D
[07:44] <nomin> Saj:  wine is a pain in the ass.  Cedega is much easier than wine.  Cedega is built on wine.  I tried the cedega demo and it works beautifully.  It even installs the updates.  It's awesome.  Only problem I found is that you can't play on punkbuster enabled servers because it doesn't like non-windows computers.
[07:44] <PPower> _nano_: There is still one issue to iron out though. Every time I reboot I have to run iwconfig eth1 ap any and then disable and then reenable the adapter to get any signal
[07:44] <jtd> Aqua *is* pretty, though
[07:44] <intelikey> lwarimav then ignore all other computers and work on the one firefox is on.    all my questions will be addressing that particular box.
[07:44] <Hentai_Jeff> the logic of that escapes me
[07:44] <PPower> _nano_: Wired it up and installed the fwcutter package, then run the ubuntu script
[07:44] <ubuntubes> Unenvarjo : hehe...
[07:44] <CHodapp> nomin, that's weird, Enemy Territory uses punkbuster and I'm on Linux
[07:44] <fiendskull9> jtd, yes very, the apple GD's hit a big note when osx came out. a BIG note
[07:44] <nomin> cedega is very easy to use
[07:44] <_nano_> PPower: aah nice..so now you are using the bcm43xx driver then
[07:44] <Hentai_Jeff> it's like that damn boot camp
[07:44] <intelikey> lwarimav do you have more than one user account on that box ?
[07:44] <CHodapp> The interface on OS X is nice but it's not anything particularly special to me
[07:44] <RancidLM> any rumors on what time 6.06 is being released?
[07:44] <grv> does cedega really not work on pb:(?
[07:44] <PPower> _nano_: yes, did you get that thing about the reboot though?
[07:45] <grv> !dapper
[07:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[07:45] <_nano_> PPower: pm?
[07:45] <lwarimav> intelikey: yes
[07:45] <fiendskull9> jtd, it would be a godsend if they released all the gui source, and graphics for it. it would be very portable
[07:45] <ubuntubes> Does anybody know how to limit the bandwidth for individual workstation??
[07:45] <Saj> nomin: yeh it was called wine x before....how do you get the demo mate?
[07:45] <PPower> _nano_: ??? i dont get you
[07:45] <gambit> in dpkg-reconfigure locales how do i select en_us, it wont check the box
[07:45] <lwarimav> intelikey: I have more than 100 users
[07:45] <intelikey> lwarimav does firefox work for other users ?
[07:45] <nomin> Chodapp, maybe punkbuster allows linux now.  I tried it a few months ago, guess I'll have to try it again.  it was an issue in the cedega forums, cedega said they were'nt able to play on punkbuster at that time.
[07:45] <Hentai_Jeff> what is the point of booting winblows on a mac?
[07:45] <sklav> how can one grep inside a bunch of files for a particular word?
[07:45] <rendo> Games.
[07:45] <jtd> fiendskull9: I'm waiting for the day they reimplement Cocoa, Aqua, Carbon, and the rest of the OS on top of L4 instead of something Mach-y.  ::drool::
[07:45] <sklav> example /etc
[07:45] <nomin> Saj, it's on cedegas site.
[07:45] <fiendskull9> CHodapp, well, its just like using linux (unless your a PandC type of guy)
[07:45] <Unenvarjo> ubuntubes, a program called wondershaper can do that
[07:45] <lwarimav> intelikey: yes but exept me
[07:45] <eigenlambda> what't the point of getting a mac in thefirst place?
[07:45] <CHodapp> nomin, eh... it's been in ET for at least a year now, that's when I got it - could be longer, even
[07:45] <rendo> Haha.
[07:45] <Saj> btw guys of the community, gals of the community, dev team, eery one....ubuntu rox:D
[07:46] <grv> hentai_jeff, i know someone whos parents bought him a mac for college so he wouldnt game
[07:46] <CHodapp> fiendskull9, uh.... how?
[07:46] <fiendskull9> agreed
[07:46] <Saj> thnx for ubuntu
[07:46] <rendo> grv: LOL
[07:46] <sklav> anybody?
[07:46] <rendo> grv: That's awesome. :B
[07:46] <fiendskull9> CHodapp, darwin was written from unix source
[07:46] <Hentai_Jeff> ok there's the only good point I've seen for that
[07:46] <grv> but he kept his grades up and he eventually took his comp with him after the first semister
[07:46] <sklav> how can one grep inside a bunch of files for a particular word? example eth3 in /etc/*
[07:46] <intelikey> lwarimav ok then it is a local issue.  i.e. the probolem exists within your /home/<your_name>/ dir
[07:46] <grv> lol
[07:46] <ubuntubes> Unenvarjo : ok i give a try
[07:46] <eigenlambda> What's the deal with you mac fanatics? ...I don't see why anybody would choose a Mac over other faster, cheaper, more stable systems.
[07:46] <fiendskull9> CHodapp, i think 95% of OSX commands are unix commands
[07:46] <Viaken> Unenvarjo: Should I be bothered that it hasn't been updated in 4 years?
[07:46] <msikma> When will the site's /download page be updated?
[07:46] <troy_s> sklav:  man grep
[07:46] <CHodapp> fiendskull9, that's great, but people usually only see the GUI.
[07:46] <Saj> nomin: thnx, ii thought its one of them tight one:D:D:D....he he he
[07:46] <lwarimav> intelikey/
[07:46] <rendo> Windows is garbage, MAC's are like pre-garbage moldy cabbage, and Ubuntu is my wife's canoloni's
[07:46] <fiendskull9> CHodapp, yeah
[07:46] <Viaken> msikma: When Dapper is officially released.
[07:46] <msikma> eigenlambda: tsk. Starting zealous discussions again?
[07:46] <spartas> sklav: grep -i <search_text> <directory>
[07:47] <Saj> nomin rox:D
[07:47] <nomin> CHodapp, maybe some games can play on PB and some can't.  I don't know.
[07:47] <msikma> This is why I hate this channel.
[07:47] <jtd> eigenlambda: are you talking about hardware?  other than the thermal paste debacle, Macs are very, very well-designed machines.
[07:47] <nosklo> i want final dapper, where is it, where is it, where is it
[07:47] <CHodapp> fiendskull9, if you go to the prompt, then maybe it's like using Linux.
[07:47] <sklav> thanks spartas
[07:47] <fiendskull9> CHodapp, i do enjoy chatting with _real_ mac geeks though, because they appreciate the core
[07:47] <Unenvarjo> viaken, I haven't been. That just means it sta(b)le :P
[07:47] <axion`> they should make Ubuntu commercials featuring the 'Mac Guy' and the 'PC Guy'
[07:47] <Flannel> people! .*wars are for #ubuntu-offtopic!
[07:47] <Viaken> LOL
[07:47] <rendo> Heh.
[07:47] <lastnode> +1 to that
[07:47] <Hentai_Jeff> axion:yes, god yes
[07:47] <lastnode> let's keep this open for support
[07:47] <lwarimav> intelikey: Can you specify the directory in my home that i should edit????
[07:47] <ubuntubes> Unenvarjo : do you know how to get this wondershaper ?
[07:47] <fiendskull9> axion`, those commercials piss me off, because PCguy potrays a windows  user
[07:47] <fiendskull9> ugh
[07:47] <Hentai_Jeff> I hate those comercials though
[07:47] <axion`> yeah
[07:47] <Viaken> axion`: That would be funny... "Hi! I'm a Mac" "I'm a PC!" ..."We run Ubuntu." *hugs all around*
[07:48] <rendo> Here's how the commericial would go.
[07:48] <CHodapp> UBUNTU? WTF IS THAT?
[07:48] <lastnode> guys >> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:48] <axion`> the guys that plays 'PC Guy' is a hilarious anchor on the Daily Show
[07:48] <jtd> eigenlambda: why?
[07:48] <eigenlambda> lastnode: ya rly.  mac discussion >> elsewhere
[07:48] <Unenvarjo> ubuntubes, I recall that it was in universe, but that was somewhere in the time of warty or hoary
[07:48] <nomin> Choddapp: do you use a joystick with games on linux?
[07:48] <axion`> Ubuntu would have to be a very tall african
[07:48] <grv> i had one of the first versions of the ipod, will never buy apple crap again
[07:48] <JoseStefan> nah, they should hire the "Subway's" guy
[07:48] <CHodapp> nomin, yes, sometimes
[07:48] <intelikey> lwarimav that is good.   try this in a terminal   cd /home && sudo tar -czf backup.tgz `whoami` && cd
[07:48] <axion`> whose head is probably not even in frame
[07:48] <grv> terrible support system
[07:48] <rendo> "*cough sneeze cough* I got a virus again" "If you're a MAC you don't get viruses PC" *stealth ninja walks in and murders both* "Ubuntu knows kung-fu"
[07:48] <nomin> Chodapp, have you ever heard of qjoypad?
[07:48] <CHodapp> Nope
[07:48] <CHodapp> Why?
[07:48] <intelikey> lwarimav that will make a backup of your home
[07:48] <dooglus> what's the program called that lets me set the preferred applications in gnome?
[07:49] <CHodapp> rendo, put him in a hospital on life support with no one allowed to visit him... "I'll never get viruses again!"
[07:49] <axion`> ubuntu accuses mac guy of being in the closet and kicks dirt on PC guy
[07:49] <Hentai_Jeff> lol rendo
[07:49] <nomin> CHodapp, I think it's a very useful program that ought to be a part of every distro:  http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/
[07:49] <eigenlambda> CHodapp: alright, i dane no idea what your name is supposed to mean
[07:49] <nomin> CHodapp:  it emulates keystroks and mouse with a joystick/gamepad
[07:49] <Hentai_Jeff> it'd be like that ctrl+alt+del comic
[07:49] <lastnode> dooglus, System ->Preferences ->Preferred Applications ?
[07:49] <CHodapp> nomin, hmmm....
[07:49] <rendo> Who argues with Kung-fu?
[07:49] <intelikey> lwarimav next you can do an rm .mozilla-f* -rf      and then start firefox
[07:49] <rendo> Like come on.
[07:50] <CHodapp> eigenlambda, Chris Hodapp
[07:50] <nomin> CHodapp:  it's not packaged for ubuntu yet.  I can only use it on mandriva now.
[07:50] <eigenlambda> CHodapp: oh, ok
[07:50] <dooglus> lastnode: yes, that one.  what's the program name?  like the name of the binary?
[07:50] <nomin> CHodapp:  other than a few small things, it's an awesome program.  I use it for games and for viewing multimedia on my tv.
[07:50] <CHodapp> I've got a nice Logitech joystick that I got used for $5, but I don't know where I'd want to use it with this...
[07:50] <eigenlambda> i was trying to parse it like 'CHod.app'
[07:50] <dooglus> lastnode: I'm running XFCE, so I don't see the menu, but some apps still use the GNOME settings.
[07:51] <lastnode> dooglus, gnome-default-applications-properties
[07:51] <poningru> kbrosnan: need help?
[07:51] <JoseStefan> ETA 16 hours 10 minutes
[07:51] <kbrosnan> no
[07:51] <amac> so what are the ubuntu people doing right now?
[07:51] <nomin> CHodapp: I emailed the develper for qjoypad and he says he doesn't have time to develop it, he would like help from more people.
[07:51] <CHodapp> amac,  I dunno,  I'm a Slackware user
[07:51] <lastnode> amac, they're hanging in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:51] <amac> developers I mean
[07:51] <rendo> Or maybe the commericial could have 3 generations of men.
[07:51] <CHodapp> though I may try Ubuntu - I've got some extra space on this box
[07:51] <SurfnKid> has anyone had big problems with the i2c and lm-sensor install?
[07:52] <dooglus> lastnode: thanks.  that's a good long name :)
[07:52] <rendo> A 50 year old Grandpa, His 20 year old son and his 1 year old grandson.
[07:52] <lastnode> dooglus, typical gnome devs ;-)
[07:52] <intelikey> amac watching folks like you, to see if the work was worth it.
[07:52] <dooglus> lastnode: I discovered that I can run it from "gnome-control-center" too
[07:52] <Hisakasex> hello
[07:52] <babo> So is dapper out then or what ?
[07:52] <rendo> babo or what
[07:52] <lastnode> babo, it will be, today :)
[07:52] <JoseStefan> ETA 16 hours 8 minutes
[07:52] <rahonavis> i just updated my RC of Dapper and there wasn't much to download
[07:52] <lastnode> yeah, it's pretty much gold
[07:52] <rahonavis> yeh, so ya'll dont lose sleep over it :)
[07:52] <thug> someone said it is out
[07:52] <thug> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570
[07:53] <DShepherd> JoseStefan: how do you know?
[07:53] <amac> will there be another update?
[07:53] <Hisakasex> A hour ago I was asking how to check sent mails by postfix. The answer is in /var/log/mail.log
[07:53] <rendo> You know what a nasty practical joke would be?
[07:53] <cam> dapper out soon ... damn what if I've installed 5.1 ? can I upgrade easily ?
[07:53] <amac> cool
[07:53] <JoseStefan> DShepherd, cause by then it will be the 2nd of June
[07:53] <Viaken> thug: That's just someone poking around in places they shouldn't be. ;)
[07:53] <rendo> If someone renamed an XP install iso to an ubuntu install iso and someone went to install it and installed windows :(
[07:53] <stjepan> thug, but is it true?
[07:53] <babo> Isn't it today already ?
[07:53] <CHodapp> What's the normal installation method? CDs? How many? Netinstall?
[07:53] <ompaul> cam yes
[07:53] <lastnode> cam, yes you can, apt-get dist upgrade
[07:53] <stjepan> babo, see the topic
[07:53] <lastnode> CHodapp, one CD
[07:53] <CHodapp> Cool.
[07:54] <rahonavis> isn't it dist-upgrade, lastnode ?
[07:54] <Krank> Anyone here have a ASRock 939Dual-Sata2 mb?
[07:54] <thug> stjepan looks like they also have the md5sums
[07:54] <amac> awesome, downloading right now =)
[07:54] <CHodapp> Are there normally torrents?
[07:54] <cam> ok, that's what i thought ;) dist-upgrade
[07:54] <lastnode> rahonavis, yes, sorry, my bad
[07:54] <stjepan> ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/MD5SUMS
[07:54] <JoseStefan> CHodap, yep
[07:54] <lastnode> cam, what rahonavis said
[07:54] <stjepan> wow
[07:54] <Hentai_Jeff> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20060513
[07:54] <grv> o_O
[07:54] <CHodapp> I'm on an evil network that won't allow torrents. Maybe I'll wait a week until I'm home to get the torrents.
[07:54] <stjepan> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/dapper.php
[07:54] <amac> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/dapper-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[07:55] <Hisakasex> you can use egrep '(reject|warning|error|fatal|panic):' /var/log/mail.log
[07:55] <JoseStefan> CHodap, there are torrents, http and ftp
[07:55] <lwarimav> intelikey: ok
[07:55] <lastnode> CHodapp, you can deebootstrap too
[07:55] <CHodapp> deebootstrap?
[07:55] <nomin> CHodapp, i think you can order it for free via the mail.
[07:55] <intelikey> lwarimav last thing you did was ?
[07:55] <lastnode> CHodapp, google is your friend. you're a slackware man, i doubt i need to explain much
[07:55] <Bardamu> hello
[07:56] <lastnode> hi Bardamu , how may we help you today?:)
[07:56] <CHodapp> Don't ask them questions, they'll just send you to GOOGLE!
[07:56] <Saj> !dapper
[07:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[07:56] <lwarimav> intelikey: well I try to enter the first command you gave but they tell me "lwarimav is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[07:56] <lwarimav> "
[07:56] <Bardamu> lastnode,  i don't need help today :)
[07:56] <Hentai_Jeff> but google owns
[07:56] <neoxan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570
[07:56] <lastnode> CHodapp, er?
[07:56] <rpedro> !jigdo
[07:56] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rpedro
[07:56] <neoxan> check that thread
[07:56] <neoxan> :)
[07:56] <CHodapp> Ah, that's why I couldn't find it . . . only one 'e' in debootstrap
[07:57] <intelikey> lwarimav ah   are you not the admin of that box ?
[07:57] <grv> arent the md5s different from the dailys compared to: ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/MD5SUMS ?
[07:57] <lwarimav> intelikey: yes
[07:57] <mikedep333> !nvidia
[07:57] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:57] <JoseStefan> "Contact the system administrator" that sure brings memories
[07:57] <CHodapp> I'll just wait till I'm home to grab the torrents . . . this network is smoking crack anyway, I have to jump through some hoops to make anything get online.
[07:57] <intelikey> lwarimav and you can't sudo ?    can you su -  ?
[07:57] <MTecknology> is there any program that will speak text the I type and hopefully feed it back into my computer?
[07:58] <nomin> CHodapp, do you think you would find qjoypad useful?
[07:58] <rahonavis> CHodapp, why not use a download manager and fetch direct http ?
[07:58] <lwarimav> intelikey: no
[07:58] <lastnode> MTecknology, apt-cache search festival
[07:58] <lastnode> CHodapp, wget ftw!
[07:58] <intelikey> lwarimav how do you admin the box without root access ?
[07:58] <CHodapp> rahonavis, eh, just don't feel like doing it now.
[07:58] <CHodapp> wanna conserve bandwidth... or something.
[07:58] <lwarimav> intelikey: well you see I have a user account like all others
[07:59] <BlackWind>       /quit
[07:59] <BlackWind> oops
[07:59] <Krank> question from a bit of a noob... when attempting to use the live cd I get this: "hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[07:59] <Krank> Buffer I/O error on device hdb, logical block <varies>" Any ideas?
[07:59] <JoseStefan> you can always seed it later
[07:59] <lastnode> lwarimav, then you're not a box admin, right?
[07:59] <CHodapp> yeah...
[07:59] <Hentai_Jeff> wonder how many ppl are on ubuntu.com/download refreshing every 2 seconds
[07:59] <lwarimav> intelikey: no
[07:59] <lwarimav> intelikey: i mean yes
[07:59] <lastnode> Krank, did you check your md5sums before you burned the iso?
[07:59] <Krank> It's actually hdc there
[08:00] <grv> ppl are going to be fuming if this comes out on the 2nd
[08:00] <lastnode> Hentai_Jeff, arent you already runnning breezy? just dist-upgrade
[08:00] <intelikey> lwarimav ok so as the admin user or root or whoever is able,  if you want to be safe make a backup of your home.  else we can proceed without backups
[08:00] <Krank> No, Think the burn was a bit off?
[08:00] <Hentai_Jeff> actully my ubuntu machine's down
[08:00] <lastnode> @now Colombo
[08:00] <Ubugtu> Current time in Asia/Colombo: June 01 2006, 12:00:26
[08:00] <Hentai_Jeff> and I was on flight 5 before then
[08:00] <rahonavis> grv its already out a link has already been posted with isos from the ubuntuforums.org
[08:00] <grv> ive seen the link
[08:00] <Hentai_Jeff> getting the new motherboard tommorow
[08:00] <lastnode> Hentai_Jeff, just install flight5 and dist-uprade :)
[08:00] <spikeb> IT IS NOT OUT
[08:00] <Hentai_Jeff> or really today
[08:00] <grv> the md5s are different
[08:01] <rahonavis> oh.
[08:01] <lwarimav> intelekey: oko
[08:01] <rahonavis> i appologize to channel
[08:01] <rahonavis> someone should close that thread
[08:01] <rahonavis> wasting our bandwidth
[08:01] <MTecknology> lastnode, I have festival, but when I try to make it say text, it doesn't say anything. I used >SayText "Hello"
[08:01] <intelikey> lwarimav tell me when you are read for the next step.
[08:01] <intelikey> ready
[08:01] <lwarimav> intelikey: ok
[08:01] <Linuturk> grrr, release 6.06
[08:01] <Linuturk> :(
[08:01] <dunnix> hello everyone
[08:01] <lastnode> MTecknology, you'll need to google
[08:02] <animato> hello, syanptic keeps connecting to repos in Australia, how can i change it?
[08:02] <Hentai_Jeff> if I had my ubuntu machine already up I'd be on 6.06 already
[08:02] <rahonavis> so many people are upset it isn't released.  if ya want it that bad you could get the RC and update / upgrade :)
[08:02] <MTecknology> I have it
[08:02] <Hentai_Jeff> gotta love power surges
[08:02] <MTecknology> I love it
[08:02] <lwarimav> intelikey: I am ready
[08:02] <intelikey> lwarimav next you can remove the firefox dir.   do an rm .mozilla-f* -rf      and then start firefox
[08:03] <neoxan> ubuntu dapper final (not offical yet) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570
[08:03] <rahonavis> MTecknology, yes i have it too and am happy with it.  i'm not an advanced user though but i know my way around and can figure out things.
[08:03] <Seveas> next one posting crap links gets a ban
[08:03] <dunnix> in communist russia you dont apt-get     apt-gets you   :P
[08:03] <Vaske_Car> did anybody install 6.06 yet?
[08:04] <jiping> yep
[08:04] <jiping> 6.06 is good
[08:04] <Mysta> yea, on a server ;)
[08:04] <nomin> dunix:  have you been talking to arrummzen lately?
[08:04] <Vaske_Car> say something guys heehe
[08:04] <CHodapp> WAFFLES
[08:04] <grv> 6.06 does not exist
[08:04] <jiping> great
[08:04] <myleftfoot> ive been running dapper since flight 5... it rocks. waiting for official release to burn dvd's for friends and family
[08:04] <dunnix> nomin: no dont know him
[08:04] <spikeb> ditto myleftfoot
[08:05] <rahonavis> grv is right there was a leaked beta iso with a md5sum that was wrong from ubuntuforums.org
[08:05] <Vaske_Car> is there a way to use eMule on Ubuntu?
[08:05] <KLineD> I've been running it from flight 3.. kinda washes off the excitement factor but I'm waiting for final to burn some dvds
[08:05] <Hentai_Jeff> great now I'm thinking about stewie doing my left foot
[08:05] <rahonavis> Vaske_Car, i think its called aMule
[08:05] <z_diver> does anyone know if the LAMP install can be run from espresso?
[08:05] <intelikey> lwarimav results ?
[08:05] <Seveas> z_diver, it can't
[08:05] <jiping> yes, u can use emule
[08:05] <jameswang> eMule under Linux is aMule.
[08:05] <jiping> but it's called amule
[08:05] <Vaske_Car> what is MD5 for this "final" version 6.06?
[08:06] <jiping> what about xMule?
[08:06] <Seveas> Vaske_Car, the final iso is not released yet
[08:06] <z_diver> Seveas: Then it's only from the alternate installer?
[08:06] <Seveas> z_diver, no, only from the server cd
[08:06] <DShepherd> Seveas: why??? :-(
[08:06] <lwarimav> intelikey: It works.... waooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:06] <Seveas> DShepherd, because sabdfl is not awake yet
[08:06] <spikeb> somebody call and wake him up
[08:06] <spikeb> heh
[08:06] <JoseStefan> i just downloaded the daily for the 31st, now i just hope the files didnt change
[08:06] <Astinus-> charle97: http://mirror.trivini.no/ubuntu-iso/6.06/
[08:07] <DShepherd> Seveas: hehe. really?
[08:07] <jiping> do we need to change to the formal dapper, or the beta version can be updated
[08:07] <intelikey> lwarimav if you made a backup and you don't see any reason to keep it.  you can rm it now.
[08:07] <DShepherd> Seveas: what time is he getting up?
[08:07] <intelikey> lwarimav your welcome.
[08:07] <Flannel> jiping: beta can be updated,no problem.
[08:07] <Seveas> DShepherd, when he wakes up.
[08:07] <lwarimav> intelikey: thanks bro
[08:07] <DShepherd> Seveas: that works
[08:07] <myleftfoot> JoseStefan: you can just update that once the final is out. you can install it and upgrade later
[08:07] <intelikey> np
[08:07] <rahonavis> get RC not beta :)
[08:08] <jiping> F thanks
[08:08] <JoseStefan> myleftfoot: i need the "final" on disc
[08:08] <dooglus> how do I revert back to the version of a package which is in the repos, if I have since built and installed a newer version from CVS?
[08:08] <JoseStefan> "cd"
[08:08] <Vaske_Car> so for amule: sudo apt-get install amule      <<< is this right command?
[08:08] <Flannel> JoseStefan: you'll have to wait then.
[08:08] <jiping> hi fujitsu, how are u
[08:08] <jiping> yep
[08:08] <JoseStefan> i just need to verify the MD5's once the final is released officially
[08:09] <JoseStefan> and cross my fingers so i dont have to re-download :S
[08:09] <Fujitsu> Hi jiping.
[08:09] <myleftfoot> JoseStefan: yup you have to wait and torrent up like the rest of us.
[08:09] <rahonavis> Vaske i often perform multiple admin tasks under sudo so what i do is "sudo su" and the apt-get install amule you might want to enable your universe and multiverse
[08:09] <intelikey> Vaske_Car yes
[08:09] <herbheart> rahonavis you might want to try sudo -i
[08:09] <z4k4ri4> still not released, 6:09 UTC
[08:09] <Saj> is there a page with all the features of dapper drake on it ?
[08:09] <rahonavis> thank you
[08:09] <Fujitsu> rahonavis, sudo -i
[08:09] <Vaske_Car> does 6.06 uninstall all required libraries if we uninstall some software or it leave libraries?
[08:09] <rahonavis> i was looking foor the proper way to do it
[08:09] <dooglus> myleftfoot: why would you use the torrent if you already have breezy?  you can just update breezy to dapper
[08:10] <rob138> so it's released now?
[08:10] <grv> some ppl like a fresh install
[08:10] <MTecknology> lastnode, I can make festival speak text, how to I make that audio input from my microphone
[08:10] <rahonavis> person i helped, see the responses :)
[08:10] <intelikey> Vaske_Car leaves libs
[08:10] <grv> or want to burn for others
[08:10] <rob138> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[08:10] <myleftfoot> dooglus: i have dapper. final RC. I just need the iso to burn some for my friends and family
[08:10] <dooglus> Vaske_Car: it depends how you uninstall.  apt-get will leave libraries, debfoster won't.  aptitude can delete dependencies too.
[08:10] <dooglus> myleftfoot: I see.
[08:10] <intelikey> Vaske_Car install deborphan and run that.
[08:11] <JoseStefan> Seveas: what was that? if you dont mind me asking?
[08:11] <swarmz> so it's not been released yet?
[08:11] <rahonavis> myleftfoot, are they having surgery that requires the final iso immediately ?  ;)  :)
[08:11] <Seveas> JoseStefan, an idiot
[08:11] <swarmz> how annoying!
[08:11] <Fujitsu> Seveas, always good to get rid of them.
[08:11] <freakabcd> rahonavis, hisrightfoot might know :p
[08:11] <Vaske_Car> intelikey, is there any tutorial of how to uninstall everything that we do not need for server in order to make computer a bit faster, or it is not neccesary?
[08:11] <myleftfoot> rohonavis, no but when they get them windows gets to go to heaven
[08:12] <intelikey> Vaske_Car not that i am aware of.
[08:12] <Vaske_Car> roger
[08:12] <JoseStefan> Vaske_Car: you only have to worry about active processes, and those you can check with "top"
[08:12] <Tomcat_> Vaske_Car: Install "debfoster" package and run "sudo debfoster"
[08:12] <Krank> lastnode, you still there?
[08:12] <JoseStefan> Vaske_Car: but be careful what you decide to remove
[08:12] <Tomcat_> Vaske_Car: debfoster will make sure only packages that are needed are installed, and the rest will be uninstalled.
[08:12] <khermans> http://www.kristianhermansen.com/tmp/DapperOut.pl
[08:12] <swarmz> rob138: I can't respond to PMs because of "spam issues"
[08:13] <Vaske_Car> i will do it tomorrow, i must go sleep now ;(
[08:13] <Tomcat_> Vaske_Car: But as JoseStefan said... be careful what to remove.
[08:13] <intelikey> Tomcat_ yeah that's handy to trim ship with.
[08:13] <rob138> swarmz, on my side?
[08:13] <swarmz> rob138: when will apt be able to deliver the update?
[08:13] <khermans> This is a Dapper SMS notifier on release within one miinute of being out...
[08:13] <rahonavis> freakabcd, yes i understand.. and even i fall victim to this when i get excited.  but i did the right thing and tried the RC which is fine by me.  i can download the iso of proper release later.
[08:13] <Vaske_Car> thanks guys and good night all!
[08:13] <Bilford> 47 minutes maybe
[08:13] <Vaske_Car> cya tomorrow
[08:13] <swarmz> rob138: nah, my side because i'm not registered
[08:13] <Jeeves_> Morning
[08:13] <rob138> swarmz, oh
[08:13] <intelikey> Vaske_Car c ay
[08:13] <rob138> swarmz, i dont know the answer to that
[08:14] <swarmz> so, when will apt be able to deliver the update?
[08:14] <Saj> !DAPPER
[08:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[08:14] <swarmz> damn it! i have halflife2 episode1 to play tonight at 6pm!
[08:14] <JoseStefan> what's the last country to cross the "day" barrier?
[08:14] <rob138> i got an hour
[08:15] <rahonavis> hehe you all are like counting the minutes in your heads.  i freak out because i have to wait a week to get a top cigarette roller :)
[08:15] <glick> alleyoopster, whenever i see your name i read it as alley-poopster
[08:15] <intelikey> deborphan is good.  i like it.   using it in a loop will clean all un-needed libs.
[08:15] <rahonavis> no offense intended
[08:15] <myleftfoot> JoseStefan: Midway  i think... acording to my KDE World Map
[08:15] <sirkleo> hola
[08:15] <amac> woot woot, http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_Released
[08:15] <sirkleo> quien anda ahi?
[08:15] <herbheart> hate to sound stupid but what does the LTS in "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS" mean?
[08:16] <khermans> Run my script like this -> wget http://www.kristianhermansen.com/tmp/DapperOut.pl && perl DapperOut.pl
[08:16] <JoseStefan> is there a "Google Earth" equivalent for linux?
[08:16] <JoseStefan> !lts
[08:16] <ubotu> from memory, lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[08:16] <chavo> JoseStefan, not yet
[08:16] <myleftfoot> JoseStefan: not yet.... google is working on it
[08:16] <chavo> it's being worked on though
[08:16] <swarmz> so why is there this delay for releasing on apt?
[08:16] <JoseStefan> guess i have to settle with google maps, for now
[08:17] <Fujitsu> swarmz, what delay!?>
[08:17] <Fujitsu> *!?
[08:17] <Corey> Howdy
[08:17] <henriquemaia> Try this, JoseStefan: http://www.flashearth.com/
[08:17] <joshhendo> JoseStefan: It is -possible- to run google earth in Wine, though it is a tad dogy
[08:17] <Corey> isnt dapper drake fully released today ?
[08:17] <spikeb> !dapper
[08:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[08:17] <Fujitsu> Hi Corey, sometime today.
[08:17] <glick> khermans, what does your script do
[08:17] <Corey> nice nice
[08:17] <JoseStefan> back to midway, can't seem the find it
[08:17] <maruchan> synaptic should i install both compiz, and compiz-gnome?
[08:17] <maruchan> or just 1
[08:17] <swarmz> Fujitsu:
[08:17] <Corey> I have it already running will the official release be any changes ?
[08:17] <khermans> glick, checks for Dapper release and notifies you by SMS cell phone text message as soon as it comes out
[08:18] <swarmz> sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:18] <swarmz> Reading package lists... Done
[08:18] <swarmz> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:18] <swarmz> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:18] <swarmz> keiron@desktop:~/leadbullet/cvs.dev/file_data/library/file_data/api$
[08:18] <JoseStefan> maruchan: i think dependencies will require both
[08:18] <maruchan> ahh okay thx
[08:18] <swarmz> why is it not released on apt yet?
[08:18] <glick> khermans, dear god people, get away from your computers for a minute, go outside, enjoy the sunshine and breathe the fresh air!
[08:18] <Fujitsu> swarmz, there is no delay! It just hasn't been released yet!
[08:18] <Seveas> swarmz, it is...
[08:18] <dholbach> hey Seveas
[08:18] <Corey> I don't wish to download another 600MB will the official release just be an upgrade for us already using the dapper drake ?
[08:18] <zcat[1] > e2e5e0bfb2edffd2ce02dd77bda4558e  ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[08:18] <zcat[1] > Y
[08:18] <khermans> glick, it is dark where I am!!!
[08:18] <Seveas> hi daniel
[08:18] <zcat[1] > hmmm..
[08:18] <Fujitsu> Corey, just upgrade.
[08:18] <Corey> Awseome :)
[08:18] <swarmz> well the release date was 00:00 GMT and it's passed that, so that counts as a delay i think
[08:18] <Corey> I love the dapper drake skin
[08:19] <Fujitsu> It was no 0:00Z
[08:19] <Corey> its so neat and easy on the eyes !
[08:19] <Fujitsu> !dapper
[08:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[08:19] <Seveas> swarmz, no one ver saizd 0:00
[08:19] <neutrinomass> swarmz: It was never on the 0:00 ... it was 1st june
[08:19] <Fujitsu> `but not at 0:00 UTC!'
[08:19] <Rambo3> Corey: for the 1 bilionth time no , you just have to change sources and update and upgrade
[08:19] <rob138> can someone explain why BT uses my sound device?
[08:19] <Corey> cool.
[08:19] <Bilford> maybe at 07:00
[08:19] <intelikey> swarmz the release date was 6/4  two month delay....
[08:19] <swarmz> i'm sure it said the actual time and timezone somewhere
[08:19] <dholbach> Corey: http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=14
[08:19] <Corey> harhahr I will get it downloaded before all of youz !!
[08:19] <Fujitsu> swarmz, that was wrong.
[08:20] <dholbach> Corey: ah ok, you're using dapper already
[08:20] <Corey> yeah
[08:20] <nomasteryoda> Corey, LOL
[08:20] <zcat[1] > Corey: too late.
[08:20] <dunnix> i had to mess around alot to get my resolution right on my widescreen    is dapper going to mess that up?
[08:20] <Fujitsu> dunnix, possibly.
[08:20] <swarmz> oh well
[08:20] <Kmirno> Mybe we should close this channel until release ?
[08:20] <nomasteryoda> dunnix, save your xorg.conf
[08:20] <Corey> youz guys already got the official realse !?
[08:20] <swarmz> i'll just ssh into work and get the iso there :P
[08:20] <Fujitsu> I've been running Dapper for three months.
[08:20] <nomasteryoda> Fujitsu, me too
[08:20] <Rambo3> i was born with dapper
[08:20] <myleftfoot> dunnix, the widescreen worked out of the box on my lappy
[08:20] <nomasteryoda> very nice
[08:20] <dunnix> cause im running 1366x768
[08:20] <Fujitsu> But it'll only be stable in a few hours...
[08:20] <nomasteryoda> Rambo3, cool
[08:20] <Corey> Yeah, ive been using dapper for about 3 days now.
[08:20] <fiendskull9> i stopped because i got tired of updating the artwork every 5 minutes
[08:21] <rob138> is there a command to restart sound? i don't wanna kill my BT download but want to use sound
[08:21] <nomasteryoda> dunnix, do back up the file first
[08:21] <Corey> Its fully stable o my machine :)
[08:21] <Kmirno> I eat an apple
[08:21] <pettman_> anyone know how to get another tab when using the server command in XChat?
[08:21] <Fujitsu> rob138, try killing esd.
[08:21] <nomasteryoda> to your home or even a usb stick
[08:21] <Kmirno> It's tasty
[08:21] <zcat[1] > I have an ISO already.. md5 doesn't match rc or any of the last few daylies...
[08:21] <Seveas> pettman_, /newserver
[08:21] <Corey> XCHAT FOR LIFEZ !
[08:21] <dunnix> nomasteryoda: good idea
[08:21] <Rambo3> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa- (perss tab ) restart
[08:21] <pettman_> Seveas, thanks
[08:21] <zcat[1] > Was in a hidden directory..
[08:21] <Kmirno> Apples are good
[08:21] <Corey> Hey does anyone know how to use divs ?
[08:22] <Corey> is there a html channel
[08:22] <Seveas> Kmirno, cut the offtopicness
[08:22] <jameswang> zcat[1] , Maybe your ISO got something wrong?
[08:22] <dunnix> nomasteryoda: but dapper should be able to read my custom modlines fine then?
[08:22] <Seveas> Corey, #html perhaps
[08:22] <nomasteryoda> dunnix,  i had same problems with my dualscreens on suse 9.3, 10.0 ... backed up the 5th time i overwrote it
[08:22] <nomasteryoda> =D
[08:22] <Healot> Corey: you can use mozilla-chat instead
[08:22] <nomasteryoda> dunnix, just to make sure, back up
[08:22] <rob138> Fujitsu, that didn't do anything, sound is still being used up... dsp?
[08:22] <Corey> mozilla chat ?
[08:22] <Corey> Im using xchat :D
[08:22] <Kmirno> Seveas: sorry just trying to divert from the "when dapper is released" huhu but ok I ****
[08:22] <JoseStefan> zcat[1] : you should verify your iso with the corresponding MD5SUMS file
[08:22] <zcat[1] > ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso - sounds fairly final to me.. :-)
[08:22] <Fujitsu> rob138, work out what's using it.
[08:22] <Fujitsu> zcat[1] , not really.
[08:22] <dunnix> nomasteryoda: ok
[08:22] <jameswang> I'm using gaim.
[08:22] <nomasteryoda> zcat[1] , LOL
[08:23] <rob138> Fujitsu, Gnome-btdownload is
[08:23] <Seveas> zcat[1] , the final ISO is NOT RELEASED YET
[08:23] <pettman_> zcat[1] , where is that to be found?
[08:23] <zcat[1] > The md5sums says it's right..
[08:23] <Corey> ITS RELEASED OMFG ITS RELEASED !!!!!!
[08:23] <Corey> DOWNLOAD QUICK
[08:23] <rob138> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ ?
[08:23] <Bilford> ...
[08:23] <crimsun> Seveas: the md5sum from ponyland says it's released!!!
[08:23] <Seveas> crimsun, screw ponyland 
[08:23] <Healot> Wait until Mark says so
[08:23] <spikeb> omg ponies
[08:24] <trygvebw> when it's released it will be here won't it? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/
[08:24] <Seveas> crimsun, NO YOU CAN'T HAVE A PONY
[08:24] <Sapote> Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:24] <zcat[1] > OMG!!! Dapper!!!
[08:24] <Bilford> you can make cool smilies with Kubuntu
[08:24] <JoseStefan> until the official announcment at ubuntu.com, no download can be validated
[08:24] <crimsun> Seveas: :((
[08:24] <Corey> IM ALREADY DOWNLOADING SUCKAS
[08:24] <Corey> :P
[08:24] <Corey> jks
[08:24] <Healot> glup
[08:24] <Seveas> I'm going to wave the kickban wand over any other stupid user from now on
[08:24] <Sapote> i download 6.06 from ubuntu.com
[08:25] <Seveas> let's keep it normal in here
[08:25] <lastnode> nobody mention dapper
[08:25] <lastnode> 0.o
[08:25] <Madpilot> Seveas: what's normal?
[08:25] <spikeb> Seveas, hard to do that when everyone is going absolutely ballistic heh
[08:25] <Seveas> Madpilot, not freaking out over bogus isos
[08:25] <imbrandon> heya Madpilot Seveas and crew
[08:25] <Bilford> that was normal for IRC
[08:25] <JoseStefan> you can download them, just dont freak out ;)
[08:26] <Sapote> http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/
[08:26] <jrsims> clear
[08:26] <JoseStefan> and let it be known they wont be valid until they match the "offical" announcment
[08:26] <VonGuard> Dapper ho!
[08:26] <jrsims> hey, so can I run XGL and get drop shadows without installing compiz too?
[08:26] <VonGuard> is it time yet?
[08:26] <CHodapp> No. Go back to bed.
[08:26] <Seveas> VonGuard, no.
[08:26] <VonGuard> poop
[08:27] <JoseStefan> California is still on the 31st, right?
[08:27] <jet87> yep
[08:27] <CHodapp> Huh?
[08:27] <Flannel> JoseStefan: for 30 minutes.
[08:27] <Saj> :(
[08:27] <ggilbert> for a half an hour
[08:27] <VonGuard> yeah, for another 30 minutes
[08:27] <Bilford> Is Mark Shuttleworth going to parachute onto the Today show set or something today
[08:27] <Fujitsu> Hahaha.
[08:27] <herbheart> !dapper
[08:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[08:27] <jrsims> God. I just love ubuntu so much.
[08:27] <ajmitch_> Seveas: just give everyone a pony & a kick :)
[08:27] <Bilford> what kind of advertising is planned
[08:27] <Seveas> Bilford, yes
[08:27] <spikeb> Bilange, that would rule lol
[08:27] <Graig> seriously?
[08:27] <Seveas> /kick ajmitch_ ZOMG PONIES!
[08:27] <VonGuard> i'm posatively giddy with excitement
[08:28] <JoseStefan> ubuntu should get at least 10 seconds on CNN
[08:28] <lastnode> ponies?
[08:28] <spikeb> haha Seveas
[08:28] <Bilford> Mark Shuttleworth will ride onto the Today Show set on a pony
[08:28] <jrsims> ubuntu is the greatest thing to happen to the world in a long time
[08:28] <lastnode> he should ride in on ponIES
[08:28] <herbheart> greatest thing to happen since ponies
[08:28] <lastnode> pluralism everyone
[08:28] <jrsims> SO anyway, can I run XGL and get drop shadows without installing compiz too?
[08:28] <pettman_> I hope that the fglrx freez has been amended...
[08:28] <Bilford> lol
[08:28] <CHodapp> LOL I CANT USE MY USB DILDO WITH UBUNTU
[08:28] <trygvebw> oh my
[08:28] <lastnode> mmm
[08:28] <lastnode> another one bites the dust
[08:29] <lastnode> Freddie Mercury was prophetic
[08:29] <JoseStefan> jrsims: you can install compiz and not use "the rest" of the features
[08:29] <cef> this is getting a bit draconian, no?
[08:29] <herbheart> yes you can use your dildo with ubuntu... but first, you have start up totem
[08:29] <Madpilot> lastnode: well, bites something, anyway. ;)
[08:29] <Healot> everyone's mad for Dapper Release eh?
[08:29] <VonGuard> freddie mercury was prosthetic
[08:29] <Fujitsu> Thanks for keeping the channel sane, Seveas.
[08:29] <swarmz> is the iso officially released?
[08:29] <jrsims> JoseStefan: huh? I don't need xgl?
[08:29] <lastnode> Madpilot, xD
[08:29] <cef> herbheart: haha
[08:29] <Seveas> swarmz, no
[08:29] <lastnode> swarmz, no!
[08:29] <swarmz> if not, what is this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/dapper-desktop-i386.iso
[08:29] <Saj> he should ride the e-pony which is a robot pony, with a intel inside and a ubuntu as the grey matter:D
[08:29] <Bilford> the daily build?
[08:29] <JoseStefan> jrsims: xgl + compiz, but you can turn off the features you dont want
[08:29] <imbrandon> daily build
[08:29] <lastnode> swarmz, daily-live, it's a daily build
[08:29] <Saj> it shall start dancing at the sound of action
[08:29] <Saj> lol
[08:29] <Fujitsu> swarmz, you've been told a thousand times.
[08:29] <swarmz> oh jesus
[08:29] <Saj> :D
[08:30] <jrsims> JoseStefan: have you installed it?
[08:30] <Bilford> it doesnt amtter though
[08:30] <swarmz> i haven't been told at all...
[08:30] <Rambo3> last fglrx driver for dapper was broke or what . i got mesa back on my system
[08:30] <l_r> is ubuntu out?
[08:30] <Graig> i cant wait for dapper, and that new nintendo system with that funny controller :)
[08:30] <lastnode> l_r, no
[08:30] <herbheart> swarmz it's a daily build from yesterday morning.
[08:30] <imbrandon> !dapper
[08:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[08:30] <khermans> Sorry server was acting weird...updated
[08:30] <khermans> wget http://kristianhermansen.com/tmp/DapperOut && perl DapperOut
[08:30] <robinl1> Guys..
[08:30] <l_r> how much do we have to wait?
[08:30] <robinl1> Dapper is already...
[08:30] <JoseStefan> jrsims, a friend of mine has it
[08:30] <Fujitsu> !dapper
[08:30] <Hodapp> Oh calm down...
[08:30] <lastnode> l_r, read the topic!
[08:30] <robinl1> Released
[08:30] <robinl1> but not officialy
[08:30] <jameswang> How can shield the "join/quit" message?
[08:30] <robinl1> xD
[08:30] <Touru> It's possible to update via normal updater, isn't it? But, is it better to do a fresh install?
[08:30] <cef> swarmz: might end up as the final release, but there is no official word on wether it will be. till there's official word, it can't technically be the release
[08:30] <l_r> lastnode,  i read it 24.01 hours ago
[08:30] <herbheart> l_r til June 1, midday
[08:30] <robinl1> I have the  new dapper right here now.
[08:30] <l_r> it's obsolete
[08:30] <jrsims> JoseStefan: well, maybe you can answer this. I've installed xgl and compiz (and supporting packages). But how do I start it?
[08:30] <lastnode> Touru, apt-get dist-upgrade works fine
[08:31] <robinl1> it's from yesterday
[08:31] <swarmz> i wanted an excuse to not do anything at work today!
[08:31] <lastnode> l_r, well, it still stands
[08:31] <swarmz> damn it!
[08:31] <Hodapp> Seveas, sheesh, it was a joke...
[08:31] <Graig> i have a problem with the screensaver applet, i think it's a bug..  it will start up during a game like tremulous.
[08:31] <Hodapp> swarmz, would that excuse really work?
[08:31] <Touru> lastnode: Excellent, thanks. =)
[08:31] <lastnode> Hobart, #ubuntu-offtopic is fine for stuff like that
[08:31] <lastnode> sorry
[08:31] <JoseStefan> jrsims: there is a way to load compiz using a .xsession file in your home dir
[08:31] <lastnode> Hodapp, that was for you
[08:31] <swarmz> will 6.06 include support for gnome, kde and others?
[08:31] <eobanb> swarmz, ....????
[08:31] <Seveas> swarmz, no, just blackbox
[08:31] <swarmz> or will they be separate isos?
[08:31] <jameswang> How can shield the "join/quit" message?
[08:31] <jameswang> How can shield the "join/quit" message?
[08:32] <jameswang> How can shield the "join/quit" message?
[08:32] <l_r> swarmz, no, they have removed everything ..
[08:32] <eobanb> !patience
[08:32] <robinl1> Is it forbidden to grab the final iso (which is there) from the ubuntu server, meant for the mirrors?
[08:32] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[08:32] <Madpilot> swarmz: they've always been seperate ISOs
[08:32] <Hodapp> Wait, ask one more time, jameswang
[08:32] <JoseStefan> jameswang: depends on your client
[08:32] <robinl1> The people in #ubuntu+1 did
[08:32] <eobanb> jameswang, it's a client-side setting
[08:32] <robinl1> now we got the final dapper
[08:32] <robinl1> :O
[08:32] <herbheart> swarmz, U6.06 will not come with Gnome. Only FVWM and Console
[08:32] <Hodapp> A little trigger-happy on the kickbans, I see.
[08:32] <paniq> what is LTS?
[08:32] <eobanb> long-term support.
[08:32] <lastnode> paniq, Long Term Support
[08:33] <paniq> ok
[08:33] <paniq> ?
[08:33] <swarmz> i see
[08:33] <khermans> paniq, Long Testicle Slacks
[08:33] <paniq> what does it mean?
[08:33] <lastnode> Hodapp, trigger happy or not, if you act like a jackass, you will get kicked
[08:33] <jrsims> shoot. do I need to repoint my repositories to get dapper?
[08:33] <JoseStefan> jrsims: take a look at this: http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916
[08:33] <spikeb> Hodapp, it's being going nuts here all night.
[08:33] <Seveas> Hodapp, yes, as long as people are going crazy I'll be quick on the trigger
[08:33] <khermans> paniq, you only need these pants if you have bug balls
[08:33] <eobanb> paniq, it indicates that 6.06 will be supported by canonical ltd for a long time.
[08:33] <lastnode> Hodapp, it's called natural selection. join #ubuntu-offtopic for everything offtopic, like i kept telling you
[08:33] <Saj> !drake
[08:33] <ubotu> it has been said that drake is a duck
[08:33] <Saj> :)
[08:33] <Saj> :O
[08:33] <Saj> duck:O:O:O
[08:33] <z4k4ri4> man drake
[08:33] <eobanb> Saj, do you have a question?
[08:33] <GianLuigiBuffon> I'm with Dapper Viaken !!!! thks man!!!!!!!!
[08:33] <Hodapp> OFFTOPIC
[08:33] <Hodapp> SHUT UP
[08:33] <makelele> has Dapper not been released yet ,what is the delay ?
[08:33] <khermans> drake is also a bug
[08:33] <GianLuigiBuffon> its cool
[08:33] <Viaken> No problem, GianLuigiBuffon! Hope you like it!
[08:33] <eobanb> makelele, read the topic please.
[08:34] <z4k4ri4> the mirorr
[08:34] <lastnode> wth?
[08:34] <lastnode> this is nuts
[08:34] <imbrandon> !+dapper
[08:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[08:34] <Seveas> lastnode, the channel is going nuts 
[08:34] <Saj> eoband: nop, apart from when dappy is coming:D
[08:34] <paniq> lastnode, dont try to bring order into the biggest party on earth ;)
[08:34] <GianLuigiBuffon> now I must reconfigure flash and that so tomorrow I guess that I must come again ahahahha :P
[08:34] <Fujitsu> makelele, what delay!?
[08:34] <GianLuigiBuffon> but all ok
[08:34] <lastnode> Seveas, apparently, yes :)
[08:34] <jrsims> Do I need to repoint my repositories to get the freshest dapper?
[08:34] <GianLuigiBuffon> just that
[08:34] <GianLuigiBuffon> thks buddie
[08:34] <Fujitsu> jrsims, no.
[08:34] <khermans> I've never seen so many people geek out over a release
[08:34] <rahonavis> this channel almost has 900 people in it.  about the size of a small town.
[08:34] <jrsims> yay
[08:34] <eobanb> jrsims, if you're already running dapper, then no.
[08:34] <Seveas> lastnode, I cleared out all bans yesterday 
[08:34] <lastnode> jrsims, dapper is coming at its freshest :) there are no separate repos
[08:34] <bill> hey bill
[08:34] <bill> lol
[08:34] <bill> its me
[08:34] <JoseStefan> jrsims: did you get my link?
[08:34] <Fujitsu> jrsims, the update tool will handle it for you
[08:35] <jrsims> JoseStefan: I did. Looking at it now.
[08:35] <Graig> wow that's alot of people.
[08:35] <lastnode> Seveas, to make room, eh? :)
[08:35] <Seveas> lastnode, hehe
[08:35] <intelikey> rahonavis very very very small town.
[08:35] <dholbach> khermans: me neither
[08:35] <paniq> lastnode, and dont forget, whenever you kick people, you have an influence on the stats. its better to say "on the day of release, #ubuntu had 1288239293 individuals" instead of just... 900 ;)
[08:35] <jrsims> I wonder of the latest Suse got this much fanfare...
[08:35] <lastnode> Seveas, when you got a moment for a /query, let me know
[08:35] <JoseStefan> jrsims: i suggest creating a new user for compiz/xgl
[08:35] <khermans> dholbach, says something about our community :-)
[08:35] <jon_> Ah, that's weird.  Dapper doesn't come with X-chat.  Had to install it.  but that's offtopic: my real point: Are you guys doing dapper support right now? or do I have to wait for the official release? :)
[08:35] <Seveas> lastnode, no need to ask for that 
[08:35] <rahonavis> intelikey, yes you are correct :)  perhaps with a goat that is mayor and drinks beer for lunch somewhere down in the rural areas of texas :)
[08:35] <lastnode> paniq, does anybody really care how many people were in #ubuntu? :)
[08:35] <jrsims> JoseStefan: good call
[08:35] <eobanb> wacky.  we're about to pass #gentoo as the most populous channel; at least temporarily.
[08:35] <ryno> This channel reminds me of the credits for a t.v. program. You can't keep up with all the text scrolling down the screen.
[08:35] <lastnode> Seveas, as in?
[08:36] <Seveas> khermans: that they're insane?
[08:36] <paniq> lastnode: independent blogs :D
[08:36] <JoseStefan> jrsims: that user will use the sample .xsession file
[08:36] <Seveas> lastnode, as in: you can always pm
[08:36] <khermans> Seveas, hey i didnt say it
[08:36] <Seveas> khermans, no, but you know it 
[08:36] <intelikey> rahonavis oh you've been here ?
[08:36] <herbheart> ryno - that's true and funny
[08:36] <myleftfoot> eoband, we did that already earlier. we went up to around 930
[08:36] <paniq> lastnode: when there are no stories to tell, there will be no hero to remember.
[08:36] <rahonavis> no intelikey though there exists such a town with a goat as a mayor.
[08:36] <lastnode> paniq, ooh, profound. :)
[08:37] <khermans> Seveas, i did write a script to SMS me in case I fall asleep and Dapper comes out ... cuz I'm gonna torrent it on my University gigabit
[08:37] <Watson> rahonavis: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:37] <scheuri> hi all
[08:37] <rahonavis> understood
[08:37] <paniq> lastnode: ;)
[08:37] <Watson> scheuri: greetings are not permitted. Ubuntu talk only.
[08:37] <Seveas> khermans, what does the script do, measure the activity in here? 
[08:37] <khermans> Seveas, lol -- nah greps the releases page
[08:37] <khermans> Seveas, there's no RSS right?
[08:37] <Jeeves_> Seveas: Watch de traffic peaks on the main ix'es :)
[08:37] <rahonavis> i'm leaving until tomorrow when the final is out
[08:38] <scheuri> Watson: if that is the case...I greet you with my biggest smile I can produce...
[08:38] <Seveas> Jeeves_, lol, do you really think it'll show up?
[08:38] <eobanb> Watson, i don't think that's even been a rule before, or at least not enforced
[08:38] <Fujitsu> Seveas, I've been wondering why you often have that character on the end of your messages... Is it meant to be a smile?
[08:38] <Jeeves_> Seveas: No.
[08:38] <jrsims> Am I the only one who is thinking of ditching work so I can play with dapper?
[08:38] <Seveas> Fujitsu, yes
[08:38] <Watson> jrsims: if I had a job, I'm sure I'd ditch it.
[08:38] <lastnode> jrsims, work? what is work?
[08:38] <eobanb> jrsims, glad to hear you're so enthusiastic
[08:38] <JoseStefan> you could use an http HEAD request on the release directory
[08:38] <Seveas> Jeeves_, ahhhh, not even a single pixel in the RRD graphs? ;)
[08:38] <Watson> lastnode: this thing where you do stuff and get paid...legally
[08:38] <KLineD> I'll go to work so I can download there
[08:38] <lastnode> Watson, oh, that.
[08:39] <l_r> i think ubuntu actually wins the competition between all the other linux-based distros as italy will win the world cup..people will only talk about ubuntu and italy before july
[08:39] <jrsims> eobanb: yeah, it's weird. I just love ubuntu. It touches me in weird ways in weird places.
[08:39] <Watson> uh...
[08:39] <khermans> JoseStefan, ahh probably a better idea!
[08:39] <Watson> l_r: kinda depends on the market, I think, but who knows...
[08:39] <Rambo3> l_r: italy haha
[08:39] <lastnode> get em while it's hot, children
[08:39] <l_r> :)
[08:39] <khermans> JoseStefan, suggest imporvement to this ? http://kristianhermansen.com/tmp/DapperOut
[08:39] <JoseStefan> khermans: looking...
[08:40] <eobanb> khermans, hahaha
[08:40] <jrsims> I wonder how many people are running "sudo apt-get upgrade" right now...
[08:40] <scheuri> am I in ubuntu-offtopic or in the support channel? *I can be nagging as well, ;)*
[08:40] <JoseStefan> khermans: don't know perl :(
[08:40] <Watson> jrsims: I dunno, I'm on Slackware...
[08:40] <Madpilot> scheuri: you're in #ubuntu
[08:40] <khermans> Joetheodd, doh!
[08:40] <jrsims> Watson: why are you in here then?
[08:40] <lastnode> jrsims, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:40] <neutrinomass> F-Spot is in mono ?
[08:40] <lastnode> :)
[08:40] <Watson> jrsims: curiosity
[08:40] <jrsims> lastnode: yeah, I just ran it too. :)
[08:40] <herbheart> F-Spot sucks
[08:41] <Watson> jrsims: will likely try Ubuntu soon
[08:41] <scheuri> Madpilot: thanks, I perfectly know...;)..I was just joking
[08:41] <Fujitsu> Better, Seveas.
[08:41] <lastnode> jrsims, i think we're running dapper!! woot xD
[08:41] <neutrinomass> herbheart: Likely, but that's not the point ...
[08:41] <ajmitch_> neutrinomass: yes, it uses mono
[08:41] <JoseStefan> khermans: that part doesn't do the checking, does it?
[08:41] <jrsims> Watson: it really is good. I also used slackware for a while.
[08:41] <Watson> herbheart: I like digiKam, even with all of KDE's KraKK KoKaine apps
[08:41] <khermans> JoseStefan, yeah, in wget
[08:41] <neutrinomass> ajmitch_: Is obtaining a backtrace for a mono app any different? I think debug symbols don't show, right ?
[08:41] <khermans> JoseStefan, i grep the output of wget -- very hacky
[08:41] <Saj> t-18 minutes
[08:41] <herbheart> F-Spot runs on top of mono yes it does
[08:41] <lastnode> so wants to hit up a tropical DRP? - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SriLankanTeam/DapperReleaseParty :)
[08:41] <intelikey> Watson it's just a linux distro.
[08:41] <Watson> intelikey: I am aware...
[08:42] <Phlosten> aww no party near me :(
[08:42] <Fujitsu> Saj, I could have sworn it was 18 hours, not 18 minutes.
[08:42] <lastnode> Phlosten, organize one
[08:42] <khermans> JoseStefan, what is the syntax of a HEAD request?
[08:42] <Watson> What's with all the apps on Mono? I'm just curious why they use Mono.
[08:42] <JoseStefan> khermans: head should be more efficient, but you'd have to program it
[08:42] <ajmitch_> neutrinomass: you'll generally want the exception traceback that f-spot spits out - what problem are you having?
[08:42] <Fujitsu> Phlosten, just Adelaide and Sydney.
[08:42] <Phlosten> lastnode, will be a large party with 1 attendee :)
[08:42] <Seveas> khermans, lynx -dump -head
[08:42] <khermans> JoseStefan, I can use netcat
[08:42] <lastnode> Phlosten, get people!
[08:42] <JoseStefan> khermans: you'd have to send HTTP headers, with an if-modified-since flag
[08:42] <neutrinomass> ajmitch_: Just ran across bug #47807
[08:42] <herbheart> Watson, c# and the mono platform are pretty cool and powerful
[08:42] <Watson> except when they fail to work :\
[08:42] <Saj> fujitso: releasing @ 1st jun....18 minutes till 1st jun in california :)
[08:42] <pschulz01> apt-get install dapper-party
[08:42] <Phlosten> Fujitsu, not organising a partee in Melbourne?
[08:43] <herbheart> Watson, I suspect they were buiilt as proof of concepts
[08:43] <Josh43> 18 hours? damn
[08:43] <Watson> hmmm
[08:43] <dhjohnson3> i'm allergic to chunder
[08:43] <JoseStefan> khermans: you're method seems to work, you only need it for 1 day
[08:43] <ajmitch_> neutrinomass: wonderful
[08:43] <Fujitsu> Phlosten, no. YukiCuss and I have exams on Monday, so not much time.
[08:43] <herbheart> tomboy (built on mono) rocks
[08:43] <vinboy> hi
[08:43] <Seveas> Josh43, less than 18, maybe 7;)
[08:43] <Josh43> well, one bonus: the torrent is going to FLY
[08:43] <khermans> JoseStefan, don't wanna bog down the server
[08:43] <vinboy> is it possible to delete file from NTFS partition?
[08:43] <Watson> I only use one Mono app right now and it's text-based
[08:43] <Seveas> vinboy, no
[08:43] <EpicWang> weeoo weeoo weeoo!
[08:43] <freakabcd> Fujitsu, think of use in brissie dude!
[08:43] <khermans> Seveas, thanks for the tip -- ill use less bandwidth now :-)
[08:43] <[1] Jess> 18 hours is their way of saying "go to bed"!  lol
[08:43] <Josh43> It's already 06/01 here (MST)
[08:43] <vinboy> thx Seveas
[08:43] <freakabcd> s/use/us/
[08:43] <digerati> this tomboy is cool :)
[08:43] <Watson> I think a lot of the GUI ones just had a lot of libs I never installed
[08:44] <rpaul> banshee is a good mono program
[08:44] <lastnode> pschulz01, Package dapper-party is a virtual package provided by: dapper-party-asia, dapper-party-us, dapper-party-africa
[08:44] <lastnode> ;-)
[08:44] <Fujitsu> It's 16:44 here :)
[08:44] <Watson> I read about Banshee, supposedly it supported iTunes & DAAP?
[08:44] <Linuturk> asl
[08:44] <Seveas> ajmitch_, don't count on it
[08:44] <Watson> Linuturk: 89/h/ukraine
[08:44] <gollum> Where is it? Where is it!
[08:44] <lastnode> ajmitch_, i doubt it. then we'll have the "oh lookie, dapper does this"
[08:44] <JoseStefan> khermans: you just need some sort of "link checker", one should exist out there
[08:44] <rpaul> Watson: is certainly does
[08:44] <freakabcd> Watson, h == ?
[08:44] <lastnode> Mithrandir, i was in a hurry :p
[08:44] <freakabcd> lol
[08:44] <rpaul> http://banshee-project.org
[08:44] <khermans> JoseStefan, wait HEAD doesnt help here
[08:44] <Mithrandir> ajmitch_: hahahah.  More sane?  It'll take off completely!
[08:44] <digerati> what does dapper party do?
[08:44] <gollum> They promised it to us today, they did...
[08:44] <lastnode> digerati, man joke
[08:45] <Watson> rpaul: cool, I will have to figure out this Mono business... all these Java apps for iTunes are crappy
[08:45] <sam__> Josh43 It's 23:44 MST
[08:45] <digerati> k
[08:45] <Linuturk> you meet chicks at a dapper release party
[08:45] <freakabcd> lastnode, man joke: No manual entry for joke
[08:45] <lastnode> freakabcd, :)
[08:45] <pschulz01> has a dependency on beer
[08:45] <Linuturk> heh
[08:45] <lastnode> bash is so humourless sometimes
[08:45] <JoseStefan> khermans: head can monitor a change on the directory listing
[08:45] <khermans> Linuturk, i think at the Dapper release party everyone had their dongles out
[08:45] <Josh43> sam__; uhm... mst = -7 gmt
[08:45] <scheuri> why on earth are all like "tear them apart if they dont release today" and whatever...it is done when its done, isn't it?
[08:45] <khermans> JoseStefan, syntax?
[08:45] <lastnode> pschulz01, and your env variable SELF_ATTRACTIVENESS has to be set to "10"
[08:45] <freakabcd> lastnode, no. thats not bash. its man that complaining
[08:45] <Watson> because if I have it installed before you, that means I win.
[08:45] <lastnode> freakabcd, yes, semantics, man, bash whatever
[08:45] <Mithrandir> scheuri: we will release today, so that's ok.
[08:45] <rixxon> how can i disable the minimize animation?
[08:46] <Josh43> scheuri: Yeah, no kidding.. it's a couple months overdue in the first place
[08:46] <herbheart> Watson, I'd be wary of banshee only because of experience with F-Spot
[08:46] <pschulz01> renice 10
[08:46] <freakabcd> maybe you'll be happier if you did: alias woman='man'; woman joke
[08:46] <gollum> Curse the Shuttleworth! He promised us...
[08:46] <freakabcd> :p
[08:46] <JoseStefan> khermans: you need to send raw HTTP headers, i don't remember the syntax
[08:46] <Linuturk> khermans, a real dongle fest huh?
[08:46] <scheuri> Mithrandir: well, anyway...:)...I am sure you have enough pressure anyway
[08:46] <Watson> herbheart: any other nice interfaces for iTunes/DAAP access?
[08:46] <Watson> I use amaroK/Kaffeine for all else
[08:46] <sam__> Josh43: yup.
[08:46] <JoseStefan> khermans: "lynx" can show you, i think
[08:46] <khermans> Linuturk, i hope there were some dongle ports too
[08:46] <Graig> my computer is acting wierd.
[08:46] <Josh43> sam__: So; 00:46MST
[08:46] <Linuturk> you know your a nerd when you get that
[08:47] <Rambo3> yeah, just install popup blocker in lynx and java too
[08:47] <JoseStefan> khermans: "lynx" can make HEAD requests
[08:47] <scheuri> Josh43: yes, that might be true...on the other hand...its free...and you haven't paid for it and...I personally prefer polished LTS.capable distro over punctual release...but that is only me
[08:47] <digerati> lol dongle ports
[08:47] <sam__> Josh43: nope
[08:47] <khermans> apparantly ubuntu-women.org supports women using Ubuntu, so there must only be like 1.5% dognle ports available at the release parties, compared to 98.5% dongles
[08:47] <Watson> lol dumb innuendo
[08:47] <sam__> MDT is.
[08:47] <herbheart> Watson, I use mpd (musidpd.org) but I don't have an ipod
[08:47] <Watson> herbheart: I don't have an iPod either. But I am in a college dorm with a lot of people sharing music over iTunes.
[08:47] <Madpilot> khermans: mind the CoC, please...
[08:47] <VR_> herbheart: do you know of any equalizer plugins for mpd?
[08:48] <khermans> Madpilot, ok ill won
[08:48] <Watson> I used to use MusicPD on my very slow server - it was great
[08:48] <khermans> Madpilot, ill keep my CoC away from the dongle parties
[08:48] <Josh43> scheuri: Oh, of course - I'm not arguing, I'm just going over what I'm going to do with dapper final :) Been testing and loving it, now format
[08:48] <intelikey> scheuri no.  it's not "only you"  :)
[08:48] <scheuri> intelikey: thanks...;)
[08:48] <herbheart> VR_ no eq for mpd. I use an external hardware mixer with an eq
[08:48] <EpicWang> gonna go try my xgl sweetness!
[08:48] <khermans> ipod support in Dapper is awesome
[08:48] <EpicWang> later
[08:48] <VR_> herbheart: ah, ok.
[08:48] <herbheart> I've been searching for an eq for mpd since I met mpd
[08:49] <scheuri> Josh43: okay, no worries..:)...I am using it now for a couple of weeks myself...looks very good...still, loads of people complain and I thing that is unfair
[08:49] <VR_> herbheart: if it had one, i wouldn't use anything else
[08:49] <La_PaRCa> Gotta reformat for dapper. Been running the same testing rig since hoary and now its being eaten alive by bitrot.
[08:49] <Watson> herbheart: there are EQs for ALSA and OSS, most likely.
[08:49] <scheuri> Josh43: and I mean complain in a bad manner...not the constructive critics
[08:49] <_kadaj_3> hi all
[08:49] <JoseStefan> khermans: you might have to run that HEAD request on a specific file, i suggest the MD5SUMS file
[08:49] <_kadaj_3> is that ubuntu 6.06 released?
[08:49] <Watson> What backends does mpd have again? I know it has esd, OSS, ALSA... what about JACK?
[08:49] <VR_> Watson: i searched for that stuff too, but never foiund anything
[08:49] <herbheart> yes Eq for Alsa, OSS and Jack, I think are why mpd doesn't do eq
[08:49] <eobanb> _kadaj_3, no.  read the topic please
[08:49] <VR_> found*
[08:49] <La_PaRCa> !+dapper
[08:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[08:50] <Josh43> scheuri: Yeah, there are alot of ppl who don't understand that it takes real work, not "omgz0rz; finsish it beotch'
[08:50] <Saj> t-10 minutes
[08:50] <Saj> :P:P:P:P
[08:50] <_kadaj_3> but it say today release
[08:50] <scheuri> Josh43: heh, couldn't point it out better...:)
[08:50] <JoseStefan> Can the output of lynx be done to stdout ?
[08:50] <eobanb> _kadaj_3, your point?
[08:50] <Seveas> _kadaj_3, today still has 17 hours and 10 minutes left
[08:50] <_kadaj_3> ok
[08:50] <herbheart> June 1 means anytime before June 2
[08:50] <Madpilot> actually, it's not even June 1st yet, not for 11 more minutes
[08:51] <khermans> JoseStefan, i still dont see how to check the links in a HEAD request
[08:51] <IsItOutYet> it is on my time zone
[08:51] <eobanb> Madpilot, depends on where you are.
[08:51] <JoseStefan> khermans: working on something for you...
[08:51] <herbheart> it's almost 2 hours in june you liar
[08:51] <khermans> JoseStefan, im trying ti with nc, but only get the real header -- no content
[08:51] <_kadaj_3> are you all waiting it release
[08:51] <Saj>  mins
[08:51] <[1] Jess> so  what was all this talk of Ubuntu having to many bugs for 5 year LTS?  did that get somewhat resolved?
[08:51] <Saj> 9mins
[08:51] <Josh43> Anyone: Is there an rss feed to the torrent when it drops?
[08:51] <Unenvarjo> here it's soon 10 am
[08:51] <JoseStefan> khermans: try this: lynx -head http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/MD5SUMS
[08:51] <Saj> if not i coming to kill ubuntu team :D :P
[08:51] <Seveas> eobanb, ubuntu counts in UTC 
[08:51] <JoseStefan> khermans: that will give you an idea
[08:51] <eobanb> [1] Jess, it's nothing to be worried about anymore.
[08:51] <myleftfoot> JoseStefan: i don't know about lynx but w3m has the  -dump_head       dump response of HEAD request into stdout
[08:51] <khermans> Josh43, i wish -- dont think so -- see my script
[08:52] <neutrinomass> [1] Jess: Dapper has tens of thousands of bugs. Like all distros, like all versions of Windows. The problem is the critical bugs, which AFAIK have been mostly resolved....
[08:52] <scheuri> [1] Jess: Ubuntu has over 10'000 pakets of software available...I guess we agree that it is impossible to have a perfect release...but still, most of the troubles are resolved I guess...
[08:52] <Josh43> khermans: Where at? SOmeone should get on that - all the torrent apps take rss feeds these days, and the more the merrier
[08:52] <IsItOutYet> khermans, can you link that there script so it uploads the corresponding rss feed?
[08:52] <khermans> JoseStefan, still not a head request there...but good call!
[08:52] <JoseStefan> myleftfoot: i think i found it for lynx, it's -dump
[08:52] <intelikey> lynx | tee file.name     works too
[08:52] <khermans> IsItOutYet, which RSS feed?
[08:52] <scheuri> [1] Jess: hoewever, if you encounter one...plesae let the devs know it with as many information possible
[08:52] <JoseStefan> khermans: this is the final statement:
[08:52] <JoseStefan> khermans: this is the final statement:
[08:52] <Graig> cept there's bugs in the gnome-screensaver package.
[08:52] <encompass> goodness the channel is nuts today
[08:52] <JoseStefan> oops
[08:53] <JoseStefan> khermans: lynx -dump -head http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/MD5SUMS
[08:53] <Josh43> JoseStefan: lol
[08:53] <tdn> When will it be released?!
[08:53] <cam> hi; is there a pkg to run a "no-ip" like server ?
[08:53] <eobanb> tdn, PLEASE read the topic.
[08:53] <herbheart> tdn, before June 2
[08:53] <dholbach> can't you guys just read ubuntu-announce@lists.ubuntu.com and be done with it?
[08:53] <intelikey> encompass in yellow
[08:53] <tdn> eobanb: hehe. Yeah. I know :)
[08:53] <mjb> Hey can 'Always on visible Workspace' be set via command line?
[08:53] <eobanb> tdn, if you know, then why did you ask?
[08:53] <Bilford> I think in 7 minutes
[08:54] <tdn> eobanb: just for fun.
[08:54] <khermans> JoseStefan, what, should I go by the E-Tag?
[08:54] <JoseStefan> khermans: you'd want to monitor the last-modified field
[08:54] <Seveas> dholbach, i wish they could....
[08:54] <eobanb> tdn, we get someone like you asking every 10 minutes, all right?
[08:54] <JoseStefan> khermans: etag is another way
[08:54] <encompass> intelikey: yellow?
[08:54] <tdn> eobanb: heh. Ok. Sorry :)
[08:54] <Fujitsu> eobanb, more like every two or three.
[08:54] <IsItOutYet> dholbach, let us have our fun with our geeky script and red-headed schoolgirl giddyness
[08:54] <khermans> JoseStefan, what is someone modifies, but not putting Dapper up?
[08:54] <scheuri> Seveas, dholbach...if they did, we'd miss all the fun here, righ? ;)
[08:54] <JoseStefan> khermans: at least you'll have a reason to take a look at the website
[08:54] <dholbach> IsItOutYet: I won't stop you guys.
[08:55] <JoseStefan> khermans: you'll know something has changed
[08:55] <intelikey> encompass the channel is nuts today... in yellow....  as in just before red.
[08:55] <khermans> IsItOutYet, if you think of a way to auto download the torrent, i don't know what the final name of the torrent will be
[08:55] <dholbach> scheuri: oh well - I guess there's enough of fun out there for eveyrone. :-)
[08:55] <scheuri> dholbach: ;)
[08:55] <mjb> Hey can 'Always on visible Workspace' be set via command line?
[08:55] <IsItOutYet> khermans, you could always use curl to get those headers as well
[08:55] <[1] Jess> does anyone know if the RC was taken as the "final" version?
[08:55] <Fujitsu> mjb, I don't think so.
[08:55] <dholbach> !patience
[08:55] <JoseStefan> khermans: remember that currently holds the RC from the 25th, so any change should be for the "final"
[08:55] <Fujitsu> [1] Jess, there have been a number of changes.
[08:55] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[08:55] <mjb> cheers
[08:55] <herbheart> ok, that's enough channel watching for now...
[08:56] <khermans> IsItOutYet, ahh libraries!! who needs libs?? lol -- good ole backticks for phun
[08:56] <herbheart> gonna prepare my machines to seed the torrent
[08:56] <scheuri> uh...may we flood the channel with that patience-answer?? ;)
[08:56] <z4k4ri4> mjb: I think there's some utility that could do that but I forget the name
[08:56] <herbheart> !dapper
[08:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 24 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[08:56] <herbheart> I think the bot is cool :) . Later guys
[08:56] <Seveas> !dapper =~ s/24/18/
[08:56] <ubotu> Seveas: OK
[08:57] <Fujitsu> You know what we need?
[08:57] <JoseStefan> khermans: with a HEAD statement, stress on the server is reduced to a minimum
[08:57] <Xore> BEER
[08:57] <khermans> JoseStefan, yeah i know
[08:57] <IsItOutYet> khermans, use curl -I  http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/MD5SUMS then watch for modifications on the "last-modified" line
[08:57] <philipacamaniac> amen
[08:57] <Fujitsu> A bot that automatically says `!dapper' whenever somebody joins the channel.
[08:57] <Mithrandir> Seveas: actually, s/18/17/ now, I think.
[08:57] <Xore> lets turn this into a drunken party!
[08:57] <herbheart> Seveas, what did that command just do?
[08:57] <Seveas> Mithrandir, true, but I'm not changing it every hour 
[08:57] <JoseStefan> IsItOutYet, i was doing the same with lynx :S
[08:57] <Fujitsu> herbheart, replaced 24 with 18.
[08:58] <digerati> what's next an o.r.g.?
[08:58] <Mithrandir> Seveas: chicken. :-P
[08:58] <Xore> whoa...
[08:58] <IsItOutYet> JoseStefan, but curl is so much geekier!
[08:58] <herbheart> ahhhh... a perl bot
[08:58] <intelikey> herbheart updated the bots output for !dapper
[08:58] <Seveas> Mithrandir, hmm, eggs... 
[08:58] <JoseStefan> IsItOutYet, don't have it installed at the time
[08:58] <IsItOutYet> JoseStefan, of course, brownie points for using perl_curl or whatever the lib is called
[08:58] <Bilford> 2 minutes
[08:58] <ofer0> I just love ubuntu... :)
[08:58] <ofer0> Need to get 829MB of archives.
[08:58] <ofer0> Wow, what a hit for the servers... damn
[08:58] <JoseStefan> IsItOutYet, i have a PHP link checker :P
[08:58] <encompass> I like the smily, never seen that... 
[08:58] <encompass> what char is that?
[08:59] <Xore> yea
[08:59] <Fujitsu> Japanese...
[08:59] <scheuri> [1] Jess: you may install RC right now and update it as soon as final hits the "shelfes"....
[08:59] <Fujitsu> I think.
[08:59] <ofer0> encompass, newline
[08:59] <scheuri> shelves
[08:59] <Josh43> Fujitsu: Yeah
[08:59] <Bilford> Chinese
[08:59] <Xore> i was just about to comment... that is the most awesome abuse of characters as a smiley ever
[08:59] <encompass> how do I do that?
[08:59] <khermans> IsItOutYet, curl is better!  ill whip up another version to get all the torrents and seed them as soon as they are available...
[08:59] <Xore> 
[08:59] <Fujitsu> Katakana `tsu'?
[08:59] <encompass> umm but how?
[08:59] <khermans> IsItOutYet, even if you fall asleep
[08:59] <myleftfoot> PST 2006-06-01. still waiting with a big grin and a few beers
[08:59] <Josh43> Fujitsu: No, not sure what it is, but not that
[08:59] <intelikey> encompass hehhe iv'e never seen it.   it's a and teo small squars
[08:59] <Mithrandir> encompass: U+30C4 KATAKANA LETTER TU
[08:59] <encompass> how do you type it?
[09:00] <[1] Jess> scheuri:  that's what I was thinking....  but I'm waiting for ubuntu so that xubuntu can get their first release out :)
[09:00] <JoseStefan> khermans: oh well, glad to help anywyas, at least i came up with the basis
[09:00] <IsItOutYet> khermans, yay! I guess I woulda done it, but mine would have been messy shell script.
[09:00] <philipacamaniac> happy new years! oh wait...
[09:00] <encompass> so, tell me, is Mark from england or africa or what
[09:00] <Fujitsu> Mithrandir, wow... I was right! I haven't done much Japanese lately...
[09:00] <encompass> the guys seems everywhere
[09:00] <scheuri> [1] Jess: you can always install other desktops on whatever (k|x)ubuntu you have installed
[09:00] <intelikey>  a
[09:00] <Madpilot> encompass: he's from South Africa; Canonical is based in London
[09:01] <Mithrandir> Madpilot: no, it's not.
[09:01] <Bilford> it;s 07:00, but still not out
[09:01] <Shotgun> hey, does unbuntu have systems in place to prevent particular programs from using lots of memory? i ask as i have a c program with a hash table and the program seg faults unless i have a frustratingly small table size
[09:01] <intelikey> hmm i can't cp and paste it either.
[09:01] <Mithrandir> Madpilot: Canonical it's based in the Isle of Man.
[09:01] <tapio_> When I change root password, Sudo doesn't seem to update to the new root password, must i specify a 'sudo password' or something?
[09:01] <[1] Jess> true.  but I was reading and apparently there's bugs if you use kubuntu before hand
[09:01] <mjb> Has anyone used (wmctrl) for setting up windows as always on?
[09:01] <VR_> i hate that dapper splashscreen on bootup :(
[09:01] <Madpilot> Mithrandir: only the lawyer's office. The actual office is in London, I'm pretty sure
[09:01] <Mithrandir> tapio_: your sudo password is your user password, not your root password.
[09:01] <eobanb> tapio_, sudo uses the password for the user logged in
[09:01] <eobanb> !tell tapio_ about sudo
[09:01] <DarkTower> oo man its only changed to 18 hours. looking like 2nd
[09:02] <Josh43>     
[09:02] <tapio_> Oh, that sounds pretty unsecure. I'll read about it before complaining though. Thanks :)
[09:02] <robitaille> Madpilot:  officially Canonical is based at the Isle of Man...end of the official story  :)
[09:02] <guillem101> Bilford, 9:00 right here :-P
[09:02] <JoseStefan> a lot of people seem to be grabbing the daily
[09:02] <robitaille> Madpilot: unofficially, I think it is a bank office
[09:02] <intelikey> !tell tapio about sudo
[09:02] <eobanb> already did that, intelikey
[09:02] <eobanb> tapio_, using sudo is arguably only less secure if you unnecessarily enable the root user itself, as you have.
[09:03] <Josh43> ,
[09:03] <encompass> Josh43: haha
[09:03] <mjb> does anyone here use wmcntrl ?
[09:03] <intelikey> eobanb arguably
[09:03] <protocol1> dapper eta?
[09:03] <DarkTower> Josh43: How come you typeing hiragana?
[09:03] <Josh43> .
[09:03] <digerati> its 2am in jamaica. going to bed
[09:03] <mjb> sorry thats wmcrtl
[09:03] <tanek> !upgrade
[09:03] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[09:03] <mjb> q:q
[09:03] <encompass> mjb: is that the control pannel for Windowmaker?
[09:03] <eobanb> protocol1, read the topic please.
[09:03] <mjb> yup
[09:04] <tapio_> eobanb: Ok, so only the main user I set up when installing will have the ability to use sudo?
[09:04] <JoseStefan> it's the 1st on PST
[09:04] <Josh43> DarkTower: Enjoying the freedom of ubuntu smilies
[09:04] <encompass> mjb: yeah I use it alot
[09:04] <eobanb> tapio_, that's the default configuration for sudo, yes.
[09:04] <DarkTower> Josh43: oops katakana
[09:04] <mjb> can you set always on proerty on a window?
[09:04] <Seveas> gucharmap
[09:04] <mejobloggs> is ubuntu 64-bit very good? Or is it best to stick to 32 ?
[09:04] <DarkTower> Josh43: hehe sweet
[09:04] <eobanb> tapio_, it'd be pretty damn silly if every user on the machine was in sudoers
[09:04] <Josh43> DarkTower: THe last one was hebrew ;)
[09:04] <mjb> I want to be able to drag a window to a second screen and have it automatically set
[09:04] <eobanb> mejobloggs, it's fine except when trying to run certain 32-bit software.
[09:05] <Madpilot> tapio_: you can add other uses to the sudo list, if you want to
[09:05] <eobanb> mejobloggs, if you're running only free software, then you should have no problem at all.
[09:05] <DarkTower> Josh43: ubuntu rocks
[09:05] <Madpilot> other users, rather
[09:05] <Josh43> DarkTower: Hai!
[09:05] <intelikey> eobanb so if i try to hack your box and i use user name eoban  and you have used sudo in the last 15 minutes i have full root access ?
[09:05] <voraistos> Josh43, DarkTower: is there any good support on ubuntu for asian languages like on windows ?
[09:05] <mejobloggs> eobanb: sweet, thanks for that. Does 64 give any advantage?
[09:05] <encompass> mjb no idea
[09:05] <Noah0504> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=659&slide=4&title=ubuntu+6.06+screenshots
[09:05] <mjb> encompass any ideas?
[09:05] <Noah0504> haha
[09:05] <DarkTower> Josh43: bonsai!!!!!!!!!!
[09:05] <Josh43> voraistos: MUCH better than windows
[09:05] <Seveas> ZOMG PONIES EDGY HAS BEEN RELEASED
[09:05] <mjb> oahh no worries
[09:06] <Shotgun> is there any cmd that allows programs to use more RAM?
[09:06] <ice_1963> :)
[09:06] <Fujitsu> voraistos, Japanese support is great!
[09:06] <Shotgun> or a particular program
[09:06] <Josh43> Seveas: ROXZORZ
[09:06] <mjb> cool program though...
[09:06] <Healot> 64bit application has the memory space advantage, maybe processing speed too
[09:06] <Seveas> 
[09:06] <Madpilot> Seveas: is this another op's cue to ban you now? ;)
[09:06] <Healot> tsu
[09:06] <protocol1> I am using the beta version....whats the command to upgrade to the official once its released?
[09:06] <Fujitsu> Seveas, that deserves a kick :P
[09:06] <voraistos> Josh43: can u explain? what about kanji support, spelling etc ?
[09:06] <eobanb> intelikey, first of all the box i'm running on right now is a powerbook with mac os x.  second of all, you'd have to know my user's password.  third of all, i'm not running ssh on here.  fourth i've changed sudo's config to be five minutes instead of 15
[09:06] <eobanb> intelikey, but you're welcome to try anyway...
[09:07] <Seveas> Fujitsu, true
[09:07] <Healot> voraistos: all even the interface could be in Japanese
[09:07] <IsItOutYet> 
[09:07] <protocol1> I am using the beta version....whats the command to upgrade to the official once its released?
[09:07] <Josh43> voraistos: I'm not the best person to ask, but I have never had a problem reading, browsing, using different applications with Kanji (I don't understand it, but by default I can see it all works)
[09:07] <eobanb> protocol1, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:07] <JoseStefan> Seveas, i could have slapped you with a large trout instead...
[09:07] <protocol1> ok
[09:07] <Seveas> JoseStefan, I prefer salmon
[09:07] <intelikey> eobanb i'm no hacker.   but you pointed out that, you do not use the 'default' sudo setup.    that's all i was about.  the default is not more secure.
[09:08] <Fujitsu> Tuna!
[09:08] <JoseStefan> Seveas: don't have salmon :(
[09:08] <rixxon> if i do ctrl+alt+backspace, will all programs end?
[09:08] <Madpilot> rixxon: yes
[09:08] <Mithrandir> intelikey: the default also requires you to control the same tty.
[09:08] <dhjohnson3> yes, forever
[09:08] <rixxon> Madpilot: ok thank you
[09:08] <eobanb> intelikey, then again, ubuntu doesnt run sshd by default, so i think the point is fairly moot.  if you care to discuss it more i'm in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:08] <voraistos> Josh43: the thing is windows has got a very complete support for japanese, and i wouldnt expectGNU/linux to ave such a thing.
[09:08] <Mithrandir> rixxon: you're not guaranteed that, but yes, usually.
[09:08] <Josh43> yikes cute: 
[09:08] <myleftfoot> rixxon: the ones running in X yes
[09:08] <KLineD> later guys, happy dapper day and happy downloading :)
[09:08] <rixxon> i see
[09:08] <guillem101> rixxon, not the srervices
[09:09] <lightstar> is dapper officially out?
[09:09] <eobanb> voraistos, ubuntu has fairly good support for many languages, in fact
[09:09] <eobanb> lightstar, no
[09:09] <eobanb> lightstar, read the topic please
[09:09] <mejobloggs> i guess the download servers are going to be pretty maxed out when it is ou
[09:09] <rapha> will you use the torrent network for download?
[09:09] <Jeeves_> lightstar: See topic :)
[09:09] <Josh43> voraistos: I always had a problem with even trying to get the characters to show up properly.. If in doubt: try a livecd
[09:09] <lightstar> eobanb, oops..sorry
[09:09] <eobanb> rapha, you can if you like
[09:09] <DarkTower> voraistos: : Ubuntu rips XO support
[09:09] <stjepan> is dapper out?
[09:09] <lightstar> Jeeves_, missed the topic...oops
[09:09] <mejobloggs> my IP blocks torrents !! :(
[09:09] <Healot> voraistos: you can add Japanese or other language support in ubuntu
[09:09] <rapha> yea, I'm just curious who's going to use it
[09:09] <eobanb> stjepan, NO, please read the topic
[09:10] <DarkTower> stjepan: not yet
[09:10] <eobanb> rapha, for people already running ubuntu it's probably better just to use apt
[09:10] <JoseStefan> 17 hours to go
[09:10] <DarkTower> !dapper
[09:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:10] <intelikey> Mithrandir not really.  it only requires a tty takeover for the timed method  but the user password is the point.   not just the timed method.    but i know and don't dispute that a properly setup sudo is a more secure approach.
[09:10] <Josh43> voraistos: Case and point:  means system :)
[09:10] <DarkTower> eobanb: is the upgrade from breezy stable??
[09:11] <eobanb> DarkTower, what do you mean, exactly
[09:11] <redraslo> DarkTower: do you mean the current RC?
[09:11] <Fujitsu> Case in point, you mean, Josh43?
[09:11] <eobanb> DarkTower, using dist-upgrade i've had basically no real problems, and i even upgraded to dapper about a month ago.
[09:11] <voraistos> i already am using ubuntu folks;) ,and i am not talking about the interface language :p. (and yea i have a JP keyboard.) however ill take a look into that. try to use (just for a test) a JP keyboard with language bar and all that shit in windows, thats just awesome. I respect MS for hat.
[09:11] <DarkTower> eobanb: you were saying i thought that people already running ubuntu should use apt-get to upgrade instead of new install, but maybe i misread soz
[09:11] <Josh43> Fujitsu: Nope
[09:11] <eobanb> DarkTower, that's right.
[09:12] <DarkTower> eobanb: oo, k. this is my work machine though. would be a bit scared lol.
[09:12] <Healot> voraistos: nihongo wo shaberu?
[09:12] <eobanb> DarkTower, well you should be backing up your data regardless.
[09:12] <rixth> RIP The Pirate Bay. http://piratebay.org/
[09:12] <OmniD> voraistos: I'm sure there is a good enough IME equivelent
[09:12] <eobanb> rixth, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:12] <voraistos> Healot: yep, more for my girl than myself ;)
[09:12] <DarkTower> Healot: nihongo go hanashimas
[09:13] <OmniD> *no
[09:13] <DarkTower> eobanb: thanks for the help. What would be best, just back up my home directory?
[09:13] <eobanb> DarkTower, probably.
[09:13] <Nigel> how is everyone going to know when it is released?  hitting refresh on the http://www.ubuntu.com/download page?
[09:13] <OmniD> YEP
[09:13] <scheuri> DarkTower: you should do that everytime...
[09:13] <OmniD> Mines on auto-refresh Nigel
[09:13] <voraistos> OmniD: yea i have to take a look into that, so i can convert my girlfriend to ubuntu ;)
[09:13] <Fujitsu> Nigel, looking for the news on Ubuntu.com... Reading ubuntu-announce... Reading here...
[09:13] <Healot> voraistos: you can either change the keyboardto Japanese and isntall iimf/anthy/scim for Japanese input/dictionary
[09:14] <paniq> hm
[09:14] <DarkTower> eobanb: cheers. will it change the theme and look all new and everything. Dont mean to sound like a kid about a new toy lol
[09:14] <eobanb> DarkTower, i don't expect you to encounter any major problems when doing dist-upgrade, but you should hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
[09:14] <paniq> where in my user profile are the application menus stored?
[09:14] <ubuntubes> any alternative program that can utilize bandwidth?
[09:14] <aztun> hi
[09:14] <_kadaj_3> hi
[09:14] <aztun> is the release avaiable anywhere???????''''
[09:14] <scheuri> ubuntubes: may you be more specific?
[09:14] <Linuturk> !dapper
[09:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:14] <dizz1> NO! NOT YET
[09:14] <DapperLad> Dapper just got released!!!!
[09:14] <joshhendo> aztun: yes
[09:14] <eobanb> DarkTower, doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will prompt you to either use your existing gnome config or replace it with the package maintainer's version
[09:14] <occhi> so when the new release is out, can you just do a apt-get distupgrade?
[09:14] <DapperLad> Just kidding...
[09:14] <voraistos> Healot: yea that sounds good. scim is pretty old, i heard about it long time ago
[09:15] <paniq> !shuttleworth
[09:15] <ubotu> paniq: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:15] <paniq> ehehe
[09:15] <aztun> joshhendo: which server
[09:15] <DarkTower> eobanb:  sweeet thanks again
[09:15] <intelikey> well  i haven't seen anyone for tech help in a while.   sorry if i missed you.     i'm outa here.  dapper can release without me just fine.
[09:15] <joshhendo> aztun: I will get you a link
[09:15] <occhi> so when the new release is out, can you just do a apt-get distupgrade?
[09:15] <eobanb> occhi, yes.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[09:15] <IsItOutYet> occhi, yes
[09:15] <scheuri> occhi: actually you can do it right away already...
[09:15] <protocol1> occhi, yep
[09:16] <occhi> im running dapper, but i downloaded it a few days ago
[09:16] <joshhendo> aztun: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185570
[09:16] <protocol1> I know I am anxious
[09:16] <dholbach> occhi: use http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=14 :)
[09:16] <occhi> just wondering what to do when the official one comes out
[09:16] <aztun> thx joshhendo
[09:16] <scheuri> occhi: just keep it updated...
[09:16] <eobanb> occhi, please read the topic...
[09:16] <ubuntubes> scheuri : Actually I want to allocate bandwidth to a specific pc, and how do I do that?
[09:16] <_kadaj_3> hahaha
[09:16] <voraistos> intelikey: but the nu ubuntu version release is more important than changing the millenium !
[09:16] <dholbach> occhi: you can upgrade now already
[09:16] <scheuri> ubuntubes: ah, okay...well...no idea..never done that with my computer (only router stuff)
[09:16] <rapha> they should release the next version at 0:00 next time  - they would save a lot of bandwidth from all the people reloading all the time or using scripts :))
[09:17] <occhi> eoband, im confused as to what i missed in the topic?
[09:17] <occhi> eobanb*
[09:17] <gambit> in dpkg-reconfigure locales, how do i select the box
[09:17] <_kadaj_3> :D
[09:17] <eobanb> occhi, how about the part where it says 'Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours!'
[09:17] <scheuri> gambit: spacebar doenst work?
[09:17] <occhi> eobanb, my question was regarding how to upgrade my current install when it is released
[09:17] <Healot> my personal favorite of Japanese Input > IIMF+Anthy engine
[09:18] <dhjohnson3> so what exactly are the developers or whomever doing right now?
[09:18] <gambit> spacebar nor x or #
[09:18] <Flannel> occhi: you don't need to do anything.  update-notifier will ask you if you want to update
[09:18] <hyphenated> dhjohnson3: hiding ;-)
[09:18] <Xore> dhjohnson3: enjoying a beer and watching us all panic
[09:18] <dhjohnson3> d'oh!
[09:18] <scheuri> dhjohnson3: probably they are at work? (its about 0800 in London, isnt it?)
[09:18] <dhjohnson3> double do'h!
[09:18] <ubuntubes> scheuri : so only router can do that? how about the ubuntu server? can it be?
[09:18] <timfrost> !upgrade
[09:18] <ubotu> well, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[09:18] <occhi> thanks Flannel, ive never used this distro till, about 5 minutes ago. just getting the feel for it and all :)
[09:18] <protocol1> dhjohnson3, doing finishing touch-ups
[09:18] <protocol1> ;)
[09:19] <dhjohnson3> but wouldn't they have been at work since way before midnight london time?
[09:19] <gambit> scheuri: nvm,  ty vmuch
[09:19] <Flannel> occhi: you'll have an icon on the top right of your screen, should be pretty apparent.
[09:19] <scheuri> ubuntubes: if you configure your ubuntu server to be a router (having at least 2 NICs) then you may...yes.
[09:19] <scheuri> gambit: easy...:)
[09:19] <dhjohnson3> protocoll, so how do they decide when to cut things off?
[09:19] <eobanb> dhjohnson3, they just decide
[09:19] <scheuri> ubuntubes: but I never had a linux system configured as router...so I am no help here, sorry
[09:19] <protocol1> when all of thier objectives been completed
[09:19] <Nigel> I wonder what the differences will be between the latest RC and the final release.  I'm going to feel like I wasted my time waiting for the final if it's not something significant.
[09:20] <paniq> nigel, no big difference
[09:20] <protocol1> there is a doc about the dapper goals somewhere I forget
[09:20] <ubuntubes> scheuri : :)
[09:20] <scheuri> Nigel it is quite unlikely a big diff...
[09:20] <paniq> nigel, i think some random icon touchups a few small updates, nothing fancy.
[09:20] <eobanb> Nigel, it's not anything significant, really.
[09:20] <IsItOutYet> Nigel, probably wont be a big difference. That why its called a "Release Candidate"
[09:20] <Burgundavia> protocol1: what sort of goals?
[09:20] <eobanb> paniq, not even that.
[09:20] <paniq> eobanb: from what i saw on my update manager list, yes.
[09:20] <protocol1> well....theres a doc on it somewhere in wiki
[09:20] <JoseStefan> i just want the ISOs
[09:20] <protocol1> !dapper
[09:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:21] <protocol1> woops
[09:21] <paniq> eobanb: between rc1 and today there were a few package updates, one was related to icon artwork
[09:21] <paniq> eobanb: but i wasnt able to spot the difference.
[09:21] <ubuntubes> what is the command to upgrade ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06? sudo apt-get upgrade ??
[09:21] <voraistos> !dapperandbeprecise
[09:21] <imbrandon> !upgrade
[09:21] <ubotu> voraistos: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:21] <ubotu> I guess upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[09:21] <myleftfoot> hehe, is anyone keeping a counter on how many times we typed !dapper today?
[09:21] <rapha> !dapper
[09:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:22] <JoseStefan> !edgy
[09:22] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html
[09:22] <paniq> !gksudo
[09:22] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[09:22] <JoseStefan> :P
[09:22] <Fujitsu> .ICEAuthority permissions-corruption FTW!
[09:22] <paniq> uhuh.
[09:22] <paniq> and then?
[09:22] <paniq> i ran gtk apps with sudo several times
[09:22] <Madpilot> myleftfoot: I think the bot logs # of requests, and it's visible somewhere
[09:23] <JoseStefan> !ubotu
[09:23] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:23] <Seveas> !gksudo =~ s/gtk/qt/
[09:23] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[09:23] <Seveas> it's qt f*ing up, not gtk
[09:23] <paniq> ok
[09:23] <Viaken> !update-manager
[09:23] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Viaken
[09:23] <mcmahons> so what's the news on dapper, how come it's gone from 24 to 18?
[09:23] <Viaken> What's the "-d" do for update manager?
[09:23] <JoseStefan> this should be funny:
[09:24] <JoseStefan> !windows
[09:24] <ubotu> For help with microsoft windows, please visit ##windows - see also https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[09:24] <Madpilot> myleftfoot: check http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ - number of requests is listed right there
[09:24] <scheuri> mcmahons: time passes??
[09:24] <Viaken> mcmahons: Because time has passed? :P
[09:24] <Fujitsu> Yes, sudo amor stuffs things up :P
[09:24] <paniq> !ballmer
[09:24] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, paniq
[09:24] <paniq> :(
[09:24] <myleftfoot> Madpilot: thanks
[09:24] <mcmahons> so when's it coming out, in 18 hours?
[09:24] <dhjohnson3> !judo-chop
[09:24] <ubotu> dhjohnson3: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:24] <Burgundavia> mcmahons: soonish
[09:24] <JoseStefan> less than 17h now
[09:24] <Madpilot> mcmahons: when it's ready
[09:24] <koasd> dapper is cool
[09:24] <z4k4ri4> !bdfl
[09:24] <joshhendo> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[09:24] <ubotu> z4k4ri4: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:24] <mcmahons> Madpilot: no joke :)
[09:24] <eobanb> mcmahons, no, a year from now.  read the topic for chrissake
[09:24] <paniq> i wrote a poem on WGA by the way
[09:24] <paniq> http://www.paniq.org/blog/a_poem_on_wga
[09:25] <scheuri> STOP PLAYING WITH UBOTU
[09:25] <Prof_Frink> myleftfoot: 43 times since Wed May 31 08:47:23 2006
[09:25] <z4k4ri4> !ubotu
[09:25] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:25] <paniq> !cookie
[09:25] <ubotu> Hey paniq, creative commons is at http://creativecommons.org
[09:25] <myleftfoot> Prof_Frink: thanks
[09:25] <ubuntubes> my windows xp logon cannot identify aunthenticate ubuntu samba logon?? any suggestion??
[09:25] <Fujitsu> Thankyou Seveas!
[09:25] <scheuri> thank you
[09:25] <ec1ip5e> anybody would help me about kernel panic ?
[09:25] <myleftfoot> that seems low
[09:25] <mcmahons> eonbanb: don't get angry about it mate.
[09:25] <scheuri> ubuntubes: users are in sambapasswd? are they real users on your ubuntu?
[09:25] <eobanb> mcmahons, people like you ask when dapper will be out every five minutes.  all right?
[09:26] <koasd> ec1ip5e: in which situation you got this problem?
[09:26] <zelevw> 18 HRS"!"!!
[09:26] <Healot> Dapper mad society
[09:26] <scheuri> mcmahons: this is a support channel...people ask, people answer...but pleeeeease dont play around
[09:26] <scheuri> at least not too much
[09:26] <ubuntubes> scheuri : yes real users but cannot go into samba windows xp logon
[09:26] <Hisakasex> I have a problem with postfix again
[09:26] <zelevw> its 9,30 am June 1st...no dapper yet
[09:26] <Viaken> FUN IS NOT ALLOWED!
[09:27] <Viaken> *ahem*
[09:27] <ec1ip5e> koasd : i've just upgrade my SDRAM from 128MB to 256MB
[09:27] <encompass> when the files are redy for the common user, it is recommended we user the bittorrent right?
[09:27] <scheuri> ubuntubes: so, your win XP cant get access to share on samba?
[09:27] <shadow_mil> OK, is there a channel for xorg?
[09:27] <eobanb> encompass, you can use whatever method is most convenient for you.
[09:27] <Healot> #xorg
[09:27] <encompass> k
[09:27] <koasd> zelevw:where are you from?
[09:27] <shadow_mil> ah, yes
[09:27] <shadow_mil> thanks
[09:27] <troy_> !dapper
[09:27] <DarkTower> the developers of ubuntu are doing an amazing job. i just wanna say that. and im not looking for a job lol
[09:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:27] <zelevw> koasd: boston but I live in spain now
[09:27] <Fujitsu> +1 DarkTower.
[09:27] <ubuntubes> scheuri : win XP can get access into share samba
[09:27] <evi|one>  How many seconds left? :D
[09:28] <prgrmr> :D
[09:28] <Chousuke> many.
[09:28] <lastnode> Fujitsu, is it out yet?
[09:28] <lastnode> xD
[09:28] <Hisakasex> I need to check if the email sent by a program that I have running, using postfix as mta is mal formed or something
[09:28] <scheuri> ubuntubes: okay....so win XP can't log in the user because it is authenticatin on a samba server?
[09:28] <Hisakasex> How can I do that?
[09:28] <Fujitsu> lastnode, I'll pummel you :P
[09:29] <Hisakasex> My gmail account receives emails from that program as spam
[09:29] <DarkTower> eobanb: will my apps like apache survive the change
[09:29] <JoseStefan> 59400 seconds left!
[09:29] <eobanb> DarkTower, sure.  i'd back up your apache config, etc., anyway
[09:29] <scheuri> Hisakasex: it may be considered spam because there is no reverse-DNS?
[09:30] <DarkTower> eobanb: thx
[09:30] <eobanb> DarkTower, on a similar note, why are you running a webserver on your work station
[09:30] <ubuntubes> scheuri : yes win XP cannot log in the users to my server1, just during the first win XP logon screen
[09:30] <scheuri> ubuntubes: sorry, cant help then...you might be more lucky at samba-channel
[09:30] <DarkTower> eobanb: even worse its a laptop lol! relax, i do some web application programming, need it for testing
[09:30] <IsItOutYet> Well, to stop the Dapper insanity. I wanna help out byt my LoCo is quite thin and I cannot get started. Who is in Montreal that would be willing to lead me into being more active in the community?
[09:31] <ubuntubes> scheuri : but when the users access from "my network places" then the popup window asking for username n password is ok.. they can access easily
[09:31] <eobanb> DarkTower, makes sense.
[09:31] <rapha> commoncommmoncommon I have to do something. I just sitting here hitting reload and staring :D
[09:31] <scheuri> Hisakasex: sorry...I meant reverse-lookup
[09:31] <Mithrandir> IsItOutYet: there's a bunch of ubuntu people in Montreal, afaik.  Most of our support staff is located there.
[09:31] <DarkTower> eobanb: i cant imagine programming on windows. so many tools i end up needing in linux when your programming
[09:31] <Burgundavia> IsItOutYet: join #ubuntu-ca
[09:31] <myleftfoot> IsItOutYet: yeah Tabarnac
[09:32] <JoseStefan> Dapper Countdown: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?month=6&day=2&year=2006&hour=0&min=0&sec=0&p0=0
[09:32] <Fujitsu> Or not...
[09:32] <Fujitsu> It will not be released at 0:00Z June 2 either!
[09:33] <JoseStefan> :(
[09:33] <ubuntubes> scheuri : so when I log off windows xp then type in the users username n password, then it cannot.. :(
[09:33] <scheuri> ubuntubes: sorry...can't help you there...
[09:33] <ubuntubes> any expertise in samba here??
[09:33] <eobanb> ubuntubes, have you tried connecting from another windows machine
[09:33] <DarkTower> im watching the seconds, the go nice and quick
[09:34] <Mithrandir> Fujitsu: there's an infinite amount of points in time where it will not be released.
[09:34] <eobanb> Mithrandir, not according to quantum theory, actually.
[09:34] <dhjohnson3> lingwo
[09:34] <Fujitsu> Hey, Singaporekid!
[09:34] <jamie> i thought it was gonna be out this morning :-(, oh well
[09:34] <Skiddles^> :D
[09:34] <DarkTower> Mithrandir: thanks archilles lol
[09:34] <ubuntubes> eobanb yes I did.. but still cant get into server1
[09:34] <Fujitsu> Mithrandir, but they countdown was to June 2, 0:00Z.
[09:34] <Flannel> eobanb: there are though, because of the uncountability of irrational numbers.
[09:34] <tritium> eobanb: time is not an energy level
[09:34] <Fujitsu> Thus, my point was valid.
[09:34] <koasd> less than 16 hours from now
[09:34] <axion`> 1,000,000th time today, is it out yet?
[09:35] <eobanb> ubuntubes, then it's not an ubuntu problem, but in fact, a windows problem
[09:35] <koasd> no
[09:35] <koasd> still not
[09:35] <Seveas> 
[09:35] <eobanb> tritium, doesnt matter.
[09:35] <axion`> =(
[09:35] <ubuntubes> eobanb : I guess it is because the configuration in smb.conf
[09:35] <jameyg> imagine how busy and overloaded this channel will be when it *is* actually out :-)
[09:35] <Flannel> Seveas: boxes!
[09:35] <Seveas> Flannel, PONIES
[09:35] <Skiddles^> _
[09:35] <axion`> i was gone for a few hours! i didnt get the latest
[09:35] <shadow_mil> does (k)ubuntu have agpgart support?
[09:35] <tarzeau> it's out already?
[09:35] <eobanb> tritium and flannel, it's called planck time
[09:35] <tritium> eobanb: yes, it does, actually.  Time is uncountably infinite
[09:35] <DarkTower> Flannel: real numbers, not necessarily irrational
[09:35] <cef> !pony
[09:36] <amac> its the early morning hours in the US
[09:36] <ubotu> ZOMG! PONIES!
[09:36] <rapha> !dapper
[09:36] <Skiddles^> omg ponies
[09:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:36] <Mithrandir> POOOOOOOOOOOONY
[09:36] <Unenvarjo> Pony!
[09:36] <eobanb> stop please.
[09:36] <Seveas> !forget pony
[09:36] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot pony
[09:36] <Flannel> eobanb: I'll gladly continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[09:36] <Skiddles^> >:3 OMG LIONS GET IN THE CAR
[09:36] <rapha> 9:37 o' clock here
[09:36] <Soir> I have a feeling it'll just get released as close as possible to the start of the working day today o.o
[09:36] <nomin> dapper drake will be released today?
[09:37] <shadow_mil> does (k)ubuntu have agpgart support?
[09:37] <amac> once it hits afternoon you'll have lots of "my computer caught fire cause of ubuntu" statements
[09:37] <scheuri> note to myself: avoid this channel 48h before a release
[09:37] <tritium> yes, shadow_mil
[09:37] <shadow_mil> tritium: how can I install it?
[09:37] <Seveas> scheuri, 24 is enough 
[09:37] <Flannel> noob-saibot: do try and stop that.
[09:37] <ubuntubes> what is the actual time for ubuntu 6.06 out?
[09:37] <BeNi> how to get dapper?? just to type apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[09:37] <Skiddles^> Oh yeah, Dapper is going to be released, holy crap I forgot.
[09:37] <nomin> I heard there are quite a few bugs still in dapper
[09:37] <scheuri> Seveas: ;)
[09:37] <DarkTower> Flannel: why would you be counting all the irrational number. pi 1 pi 2 lol
[09:37] <rapha> !dapper
[09:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:37] <tritium> shadow_mil: it's a kernel module, so you can make sure it's loaded, if it's not already
[09:37] <ompaul> note to scheuri explain your presence
[09:38] <Fujitsu> Good point, ompaul.
[09:38] <scheuri> ompaul: explanation: the naive thought, that there MIGHT be a question I may be able to answer and help
[09:38] <shadow_mil> tritium: Thanks, what does that mean exactly?
[09:38] <eobanb> nomin, there are surely remaining bugs, but the number is quite manageable now, to the point where dapper is ready for production use.
[09:38] <BeNi> how to get dapper?? just to type apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[09:38] <ompaul> hehe
[09:38] <DarkTower> Flannel: sorry, am i pushing my luck
[09:38] <ompaul> !upgrade
[09:38] <ubotu> [upgrade]  Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[09:38] <tritium> shadow_mil: if you "lsmod | grep agpgart", and it's listed in the output, you already have the module loaded
[09:39] <scheuri> ompaul: enjoy
[09:39] <ompaul> it is my intention to do so
[09:39] <rapha> have a look at ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/
[09:39] <tritium> ompaul: duck, by chance?  :)
[09:39] <ompaul> tritium, burnt dragon
[09:39] <shadow_mil> agpgart                34888  1 intel_agp
[09:39] <Fujitsu> :O
[09:39] <BadriNarayan> why is rapha ejected?
[09:39] <Fujitsu> rapha mentioned the forbidden URL!
[09:40] <BadriNarayan> oh i c
[09:40] <Flannel> DarkTower: well, the innumerability of real numbers comes from the innumerability of irrational numbers.  Or at least, while we're talking about "infinite points" between now and dapper release.  since it's not infinite integers.  hmm, I've forgotten rational numbers.  oh well, it's been a long day.
[09:40] <Seveas> for spreading crap
[09:40] <dholbach> hey mvo
[09:40] <tritium> shadow_mil: then, you've got it loaded.
[09:40] <shadow_mil> ok cool :)
[09:40] <dholbach> LOL
[09:40] <Seveas> mvo, lol 
[09:40] <ubuntubes> where I can get help ubuntu samba ??
[09:40] <scheuri> he
[09:40] <Fujitsu> mvo, l
[09:40] <Fujitsu> mvo, lo
[09:40] <Soir> It's a forbidden URL? o.o
[09:40] <Fujitsu> mvo, lol
[09:40] <tritium> hi dholbach :)
[09:40] <dholbach> hey tritium
[09:40] <eobanb> mvo, enough please
[09:40] <Seveas> GIMME A D GIMME AN H GIMME AN O GIMME AN L GIMME A B GIMME AN A GIMME A C GIMME AN H
[09:40] <Seveas> DHOLBACH!
[09:40] <dholbach> WOHOOO!
[09:41] <Flannel> holy cow.
[09:41] <Fujitsu> GI'IM A KICK.
[09:41] <Soir> well, if you can't get to the nearest ubuntu party, might as well be at the big one online ;p
[09:41] <scheuri> ubuntubes: your problem seems not specific UBUNTU samba...just samba...there is a channel here that deals with samba
[09:41] <montbazin> hi guys ! Can somebody tell me if there is something like "Band in a Box" for Ubuntu
[09:41] <Flannel> montbazin: what is "band in a box"?
[09:42] <DarkTower> Flannel: sorry, uncountability has nothing to with irrational number, they are special number that can't be expressed as a/b  for integers ab where b !=0. real numbers are all the numbers on the number line, they are the uncountables, not trnsendentals and the like of i, e and pi
[09:42] <Fujitsu> DarkTower, this is off-topic :)
[09:43] <DarkTower> Fujitsu: ok sorry
[09:43] <montbazin> Flannel: it's a music software which generates an accompagniment to play with.
[09:43] <BadriNarayan> about ubuntu's samba: isn't there anybody else who thinks "security=share" should be default?
[09:43] <Fujitsu> No.
[09:43] <dooglus> Josh43: no, less than 18 hours
[09:43] <Flannel> DarkTower: I'm fully aware of what irrational numbers are.  It's just been a long day.
[09:43] <DarkTower> BadriNarayan: no security=share is not secure. Linux doesnt put unsafe things as defualt
[09:43] <tritium> Flannel: the irrationals are countably infinite, actually.  See Cantor's diagonilization proof for details
[09:43] <Josh43> dooglus: ?
[09:43] <joshhendo> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ ?
[09:43] <BadriNarayan> I see thanks darktower
[09:44] <tritium> diagonalization, even
[09:44] <Fujitsu> joshhendo, your point?
[09:44] <nomin> in what ways is dapper better than breezy?
[09:44] <DarkTower> Flannel: sorry about that, same here, was being argumentative.
[09:44] <Flannel> tritium: right, that's the point.
[09:44] <myleftfoot> joshhendo: that's just the daily build
[09:44] <joshhendo> ok
[09:44] <BeNi> !upgrade
[09:44] <joshhendo> I just wanted to know if that was the final or what :S
[09:44] <scheuri> nomin: newer software, more implementations, new software
[09:44] <BadriNarayan> bad question
[09:45] <BadriNarayan> very risky
[09:45] <tritium> Flannel: your point is what?
[09:45] <scheuri> nomin: where newer software means that software from breezy is in it in a newer version and more software was added
[09:45] <nomin> cool
[09:45] <halibut> montbazin, nothing that I know of
[09:45] <rpedro_> montbazin: take a look at  http://ubuntustudio.com/
[09:45] <nomin> I hope qjoypad is in dapper
[09:46] <halibut> montbazin, you might be able to run BIAB under linux though
[09:46] <nomin> qjoypad should be available in every distro
[09:46] <dooglus> Josh43: I had my buffer scrolled up.  I saw "08:43 < Josh43> 18 hours? damn" and replied...  about an hour too late.
[09:46] <Seveas> !info qjoypad dapper
[09:46] <nomin> http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/
[09:46] <scheuri> nomin: I am sure the homepage will have information about the difference
[09:46] <Flannel> tritium: nothing, it's dead.  at a micro scale, irrational numbers are infinite.
[09:46] <halibut> montbazin, do you have the 2006 version?
[09:46] <dooglus> Flannel: no numbers are infinite
[09:46] <scheuri> nomin: gimme a sec I will check
[09:46] <DarkTower> dooglus: yes they are
[09:46] <nomin> qjoypad is a keystroke and mouse emulator for a joystick or gamepad.  It's very useful but no available on ubuntu yet.
[09:46] <dooglus> DarkTower: which ones?
[09:46] <Flannel> dooglus: how many integers are there then?
[09:47] <JoseStefan> isn't Pi infinite?
[09:47] <Josh43> dooglus: Lol - yeah, only a little late. Hey, it's 2am here; where's my Dapper? ;P
[09:47] <tritium> Flannel: scale is irrelevant.  They are countably infinite, Flannel, dooglus.
[09:47] <dooglus> Flannel: all the integers are finite
[09:47] <DarkTower> dooglus: tell me all the decimal places of pi
[09:47] <dooglus> DarkTower: pi is irrational
[09:47] <tritium> no, dooglus.  Okay, let's take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:47] <DarkTower> tritium: he knows that i misunderstood him, its finished
[09:47] <dooglus> DarkTower: but it's not infinite
[09:47] <dooglus> DarkTower: in fact it's less than 7
[09:47] <Flannel> I agree. offtopic for math stuffs.
[09:47] <tritium> dooglus: the _set_ is infinite
[09:48] <dooglus> tritium: yes, that's true.  but the numbers aren't infinite
[09:48] <DarkTower> dooglus: thats the very definition of irational
[09:48] <scheuri> nomin: I am afraid, I cant find anything
[09:48] <Seveas> DarkTower, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:48] <BadriNarayan> Suppose I wish to write a wishlist for shares-admin to allow adding samba users through GUI. Which package in launchpad should I look at?
[09:48] <JoseStefan> it's a matter of interpretation
[09:48] <Seveas> BadriNarayan, gnome-system-tools
[09:48] <nomin> scheuri:  I'm not too surprised.  I think it's the only program for emulating keystrokes and a mouse with a joystick on linux.
[09:48] <BadriNarayan> Thank you Seveas
[09:48] <DarkTower> Seveas: sorry. i said id stop and kept doing it. I wont continue.
[09:49] <MadMerC> can anyone tell me how to make thunderbird my default mail prog ??
[09:49] <McNutella> it STILL Not released then ?
[09:49] <Fujitsu> !dapper
[09:49] <scheuri> McNutella: CET is not the only timezone
[09:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:49] <JoseStefan> McNutella, view topic
[09:49] <Almenfors> have they released dapper yet?
[09:49] <scheuri> LOL
[09:49] <Almenfors> oh nm
[09:49] <McNutella> i read topic, obviously.. feeling a little dissapointed
[09:49] <scheuri> ;)
[09:50] <dholbach> McNutella: disappointed? why that?
[09:50] <Almenfors> u answerd it as i asked hehe and ill check the topic now. sorry =)
[09:50] <JoseStefan> i call a vote re-update the hours on the topic
[09:50] <McNutella> how do you work that out JoseStefan
[09:50] <montbazin> halibut: no I dont have BB , what is BIAB and where can I get it2006
[09:51] <Almenfors> is there a version of utorrent for linux? or something similar?
[09:51] <_nano_> ktorrent
[09:51] <JoseStefan> McNutella, i dont know, but it's been like an hour since the last topic update
[09:51] <scheuri> Almenfors: yes there are
[09:51] <Kr0ntab> maintainers are at their own little pre-release function gettin drunk off their butts... laughin at us.  :-)
[09:51] <Burgundavia> Almenfors: ubuntu already has a bittorrent client built in
[09:51] <scheuri> Almenfors: do a "aptitude search torrent" in your CLI
[09:51] <Almenfors> Burgundavia, that one built in sux.
[09:51] <McNutella> JoseStefan,  I guess a lttle mathematics is in order then.. 17 or so hours then I take it LOL
[09:51] <Ocult> what time will release the new version ????
[09:51] <Ocult> :O
[09:51] <Ocult> what time ?
[09:52] <McNutella> Ocult, shhh
[09:52] <JoseStefan> McNutella, indeed
[09:52] <montbazin> rpedro_: thanks I'll check that
[09:52] <Fujitsu> !dapper
[09:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:52] <Ocult> [McNutella] : ?
[09:52] <halibut> montbazin, biab = band in a box
[09:52] <McNutella> Ocult, do what I did, look at the topic after asking
[09:52] <eobanb> Ocult, read the topic next time first
[09:52] <Ocult> |eobanb|: but i wanna more details
[09:52] <montbazin> halibut: OK
[09:52] <Ocult> [eobanb] : it can be more precise
[09:52] <Ocult> ?
[09:52] <McNutella> Ocult, tough :)
[09:52] <eobanb> perhaps you missed the part, Ocult, where it says '(NO, we cannot be more precise)'
[09:53] <BadriNarayan> It is rather simple:ocult keep wanting
[09:53] <mcmahons> i don't understand why you are getting angry about people asking about when dappers coming out. obviously people are excited, why rain on their parade?
[09:53] <eobanb> mcmahons, because someone asks every five minutes.
[09:53] <JoseStefan> Ocult, if you find anything, you tell us, and we will update everyone
[09:53] <Ocult> [[eobanb] ] : OH.. my anxious made me blank
[09:53] <g_c_c> im probably the only person that doesn't know this, but does kde 3.5 have better accessability support?
[09:53] <Fujitsu> mcmahons, people ask excruciatingly regularly.
[09:53] <scheuri> mcmahons: it is not the asking itself, but probably the numbers of people asking it...and it is written ALL over
[09:53] <Ocult> JoseStefan: in bittorrente have the final version
[09:53] <scheuri> mcmahons: people tend to be lazy when it comes to reading...:)
[09:53] <EmxBA> when is dapper going to be released
[09:54] <EmxBA> really
[09:54] <philipacamaniac> It will be released at exactly^F^F^F^F^F^F^F^F (transmission terminated)
[09:54] <eobanb> EmxBA, please stfu.
[09:54] <g_c_c> ...
[09:54] <g_c_c> wow...
[09:54] <tritium> eobanb: be nice
[09:54] <Ocult> hahahaha
[09:54] <BadriNarayan> lol
[09:54] <Seveas> tritium, he said please 
[09:54] <McNutella> eobanb, dont be like that
[09:54] <JoseStefan> Ocult: it's not "final" until the "offical" announcment
[09:54] <mcmahons> scheuri: i read it, but for example jeff waugh was in here before. surely he knows when it's being released. i was just hoping someone knew
[09:54] <g_c_c> i dunno, be like that eobanb
[09:54] <scheuri> tritium: actually...he was...he said please...sorry...couldnt resist
[09:54] <EmxBA> eobanb: in next 18 hours
[09:54] <Linuturk> !dapper
[09:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:54] <tritium> Seveas: lol, okay...
[09:54] <halibut> montbazin, there is hydrogen, which is just a drum machine
[09:54] <Ocult> ALL KNOW TODAY UBUNTU WILL BE REALESE.. THEN PUT IN TOPIC  ..  Drapper drak will be realesed less than 24hours
[09:54] <Ocult> HAHAHAHAHA
[09:55] <ompaul> !shout
[09:55] <ubotu> shout is probably WE CAN READ LOWER CASE!
[09:55] <Fujitsu> .bans
[09:55] <Healot> Mark will announce that, have patience
[09:55] <KenSentMe> !tell me about upgrade
[09:55] <dholbach> !tell me about upgrade too
[09:55] <Skiddles^> !dance
[09:55] <Seveas> !shout =~ s/WE/<reply> WE/
[09:55] <ubotu> Skiddles^: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:55] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[09:55] <bliss_> ompaul; morning
[09:55] <Skiddles^> Ooh, a link :D
[09:55] <RancidLM> hey all
[09:55] <mcmahons> how hot is the chick on the server picture on the ubuntu site :)
[09:55] <ompaul> dholbach, it is when a server hugs your computer :-)
[09:55] <moon456> I guess every five minutes or so someone could type "!dapper" for the new comers that forget to read the topic
[09:56] <ompaul> bliss_, morning
[09:56] <Healot> the asian chick? mcmahons?
[09:56] <dholbach> ompaul: ahhhh now I understand
[09:56] <x3on> where is some info on ubuntu server?
[09:56] <RancidLM> !dapper
[09:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:56] <scheuri> moon456: they do not forget...they just dont
[09:56] <eobanb> mcmahons, that stock photo is all over the place
[09:56] <mcmahons> Healot: haha shes hot too, but I meant the server one.
[09:56] <BadriNarayan> Seveas, what is that substitution?
[09:56] <scheuri> x3on: on their homepage
[09:56] <OffHand> less then 18 hrs from when?
[09:56] <ompaul> dholbach, I knew you would
[09:56] <mcmahons> eobanb: doesn't reduce the hotness
[09:56] <philipacamaniac> mcmahons: wow, we're proving that we really are a large crowd of geeks
[09:56] <JoseStefan> does ubotu work for peanuts?
[09:56] <jdub> mcmahons: *soon*
[09:56] <Healot> mcmahons: sure, hot looking
[09:56] <samuel> can u download the final 6.06 yet ? cliche woo
[09:56] <bliss_> the ofical time i read was 12 noon GMT
[09:56] <ompaul> jdub, not soon enough :-)
[09:56] <McNutella> bliss_, from ?
[09:57] <jdub> hint -> the UK is only just getting in to work
[09:57] <philipacamaniac> !peanuts
[09:57] <g-nome> so where can i download this dapper?
[09:57] <ubotu> philipacamaniac: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:57] <bliss_> OFFICIAL
[09:57] <philipacamaniac> nope
[09:57] <mcmahons> jdub: as a fellow aussie, is it before bed or tomorroww morning?
[09:57] <RancidLM> gmt? they canadian?
[09:57] <highvoltage> dapper dapper dapper!!!
[09:57] <scheuri> jdub: at 0900am? lazy people...;)
[09:57] <samuel> can u download it yet?
[09:57] <Healot> GMT, Britain time
[09:57] <g-nome> nope
[09:57] <La_PaRCa> !dapper
[09:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:57] <BadriNarayan> Can someone tell me what the regexp by Seveas meant? I don't get it
[09:57] <jdub> mcmahons: dunno, i assume it will be very soon, but it depends on what your bedtime is.
[09:57] <bliss_> McMutella:; Madpilot
[09:57] <JoseStefan> samuel: in 18 hours you can
[09:57] <mcmahons> philipacmaniac: haha well i am waiting for a new linux distro
[09:58] <jdub> yo seb128
[09:58] <mcmahons> jdub: ok cool
[09:58] <McNutella> id just like a long pipe full of good stuff to smoke while I wait
[09:58] <scheuri> ompaul: which, at server end, you need to share with 1000000 people...;)
[09:58] <philipacamaniac> mcmahons: so are 928 other nerds
[09:58] <philipacamaniac> :)
[09:58] <g-nome> so 18 loooong hours
[09:58] <jdub> everyone cheer seb128 and dholbach, our awesomely-awesome gnome maintainers!
[09:58] <mcmahons> philipacmaniac: haha hilarious
[09:58] <zaphod_> when is it happening? 18 hours is too much
[09:58] <McNutella> lol
[09:58] <JoseStefan> it's still May-31 in Hawaii, right?
[09:58] <ompaul> scheuri, no its a hundred back direct to one of the mirrors
[09:58] <mcmahons> haha woot go seb and dholbach
[09:58] <Lukketto> !dapper
[09:58] <seb128> hey jdub :)
[09:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[09:59] <RancidLM> GMT its 07:58:00
[09:59] <scheuri> ompaul: oh okay...lucky...;)
[09:59] <BadriNarayan> 3 cheers for seb and dholbach
[09:59] <McNutella> lets all do some magic, it might JUST Happen LOL
[09:59] <g_c_c> so what will actually be changing between releases?
[09:59] <ompaul> 3 cheers for all
[09:59] <zaphod_> is it available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[09:59] <zaphod_> thats the final version, right?
[09:59] <Skiddles^> Boo, antigravity/upside-down/inverse tetris. my eyes hurt.
[09:59] <McNutella> hee hee
[09:59] <bliss_> ompaul: might as well go back to bed
[09:59] <myleftfoot> zaphod_: nope that's the daily build
[09:59] <BadriNarayan> g_c_c see the changelog on the wiki
[09:59] <g-nome> zaphod: is it?
[09:59] <zaphod_> on the forums, it says that it is
[09:59] <mcmahons> jdub: if i just do a dist-upgrade, will that be dapper final or still be an rc?
[09:59] <montbazin> halibut : thanx
[10:00] <philipacamaniac> http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[10:00] <g-nome> how was the first dapper beta been released?
[10:00] <zaphod_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1075007#post1075007
[10:00] <g_c_c> thx
[10:00] <g-nome> i mean when has the first dapper beta been released
[10:00] <JoseStefan> zaphod_: is that "official" ?
[10:00] <jdub> mcmahons: that
[10:00] <zaphod_> look at the forum link
[10:00] <Seveas> JoseStefan, no
[10:00] <jdub> mcmahons: there's not much in the way of package uploading going on now...
 Seveas : i got a disk which is 52G full on a running system, another disk which is 60G full, i want to rsync
[10:01] <lsuactiafner>                the 52G to the 60G, but when i try it the 60G of free space fills up, why would that be?        rsync --exclude
[10:01] <lsuactiafner>                /mnt/ --links -aH --partial --progress --exclude=/tmp* --exclude=/proc* --exclude=/sys* / /mnt/01/PC
[10:01] <Flannel> g-nome: dapper beta was released a week or two ago.
[10:01] <JoseStefan> i was using reverse psicology so he could answer his own question :/
[10:01] <g-nome> no, but i mean the *first* dapper thing
[10:01] <mcmahons> jdub: ok cool
[10:01] <scheuri> werent flights betas too=
[10:01] <scheuri> ?
[10:01] <ubuntu> jkkjkhkjjjkghk
[10:01] <jdub> scheuri: flights were regarded as 'alpha'
[10:01] <ubuntu> ldkgiiui
[10:01] <g-nome> i just want to know how LONG the period of testing was
[10:01] <scheuri> jdub: ah, okay
[10:01] <Flannel> haha, nice Seveas.
[10:02] <kakalto> when's the countdown? xD
[10:02] <neutrinomass> g-nome: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule
[10:02] <eobanb> best reason ever
[10:02] <JoseStefan> development took 9 months, didn't it?
[10:02] <Auckland_Pig> whats the free node record for no. of users on IRC channel?
[10:02] <dholbach> JoseStefan: 6 months + 6 weeks
[10:02] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig, if i had to guess, it's probably around 2000 users
[10:02] <g-nome> neutrinomass: that resumes it quite well - ty
[10:02] <JoseStefan> ok
[10:02] <Auckland_Pig> 2000... hmmm thats a lot
[10:02] <OmniD> So is this one of the bigger updates?
[10:03] <Auckland_Pig> hope it will reach 1000 users :)
[10:03] <eobanb> OmniD, uhhh yeah.
[10:03] <OmniD> To say the least or what
[10:03] <OmniD> I wouldn't know eobanb sorry
[10:03] <JoseStefan> 1000 on the first 3 days
[10:03] <g-nome> will dapper always have the new updates for software?
[10:03] <g-nome> and for the kernel??
[10:03] <philipacamaniac> g-nome: only security updates
[10:03] <tritium> g-nome: security updates, yes
[10:04] <McNutella> g-nome, one would assume so
[10:04] <bliss_> most folks have in some form or other already just getting ready to pop the cork
[10:04] <jdub> g-nome: no, focus post-release is security and major bugfixes
[10:04] <JoseStefan> g-nome: there will be different repositories for different need
[10:04] <JoseStefan> needs
[10:04] <Auckland_Pig> i did "update-manager -d" and am getting too many updates... how do i disable it?
[10:04] <scheuri> McNutella: this assumption is quite shortsighted in business and stability manner
[10:04] <Lukketto> !dapper
[10:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[10:04] <zjimbo> I feel iv been lied to 1st June 4:00PM and still no Dapper
[10:04] <McNutella> meh
[10:04] <eobanb> zjimbo, it's not 2 june yet
[10:04] <McNutella> hahahah
[10:04] <Auckland_Pig> woo hooo 18 hours :)
[10:04] <jdub> zjimbo: there's a lot of 1st June to go around teh world (hint: people doing the release are on UK time)
[10:05] <scheuri> zjimbo: there are mor than just one timezone in this world...
[10:05] <JoseStefan> some countries are still @ May-31, we have to be fair :D
[10:05] <moon456> for those anxious to use dapper, you can always upgrade to (or install) the rc version and then when the official version is release do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:05] <jsgotangco> yo!
[10:05] <lightstar> jdub, 15 hours 54 minutes
[10:05] <Seveas> jsgotangco, yo homeboy 
[10:05] <bliss_> zjimbo: you could always go to bed and wake to a new day in say 18 hours
[10:05] <joshhendo> is that how much longer to go?
[10:05] <philipacamaniac> it is 8:05 am UK time
[10:05] <Auckland_Pig> its 8pm in auckland :D
[10:05] <kakalto> it's kinda sad to be in New Zealand..... we are highly likely to get the release on the 2nd... :'(
[10:05] <ompaul> 933
[10:05] <g-nome>  = cool character
[10:05] <zjimbo> ahww why can't the world just work on "zjimbo time"
[10:05] <Prof_Frink> philipacamaniac: It's 8:05 GMT, it's 9:05 UK time
[10:06] <McNutella> its 9:05 in scotland philipacamaniac
[10:06] <Skiddles^> 
[10:06] <philipacamaniac> ah damn
[10:06] <joshhendo> 
[10:06] <Seveas> @now London
[10:06] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/London: June 01 2006, 09:06:13
[10:06] <bliss_> no its 9:05 in London
[10:06] <joshhendo>  COOL!
[10:06] <Healot> tsu huhuhu
[10:06] <Seveas> @now UTC
[10:06] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: June 01 2006, 08:06:20
[10:06] <Auckland_Pig> kakalto: where you from?
[10:06] <JoseStefan> we should use binary time
[10:06] <dholbach> @now Sydney
[10:06] <Ubugtu> Current time in Australia/Sydney: June 01 2006, 18:06:25
[10:06] <reon> 10:06 in South Africa
[10:06] <philipacamaniac> well, its 1:06 am tucson time, so why am I not asleep?
[10:06] <kakalto> waiuku
[10:06] <dholbach> kakalto: I shouldn't think so :)
[10:06] <Xore> @now vancouver
[10:06] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Vancouver: June 01 2006, 01:06:37
[10:06] <kakalto> Auckland_Pig: might as well be auckland :)
[10:06] <McNutella> youd think people dont know what time it is in their own room
[10:06] <La_PaRCa> @now de
[10:06] <Belutz> @now Jakarta
[10:06] <Xore> @now hawaii
[10:06] <Ubugtu> Current time in Asia/Jakarta: June 01 2006, 15:06:49
[10:06] <Ubugtu> Current time in US/Hawaii: May 31 2006, 22:06:50
[10:06] <eobanb> enough about time zones
[10:06] <RancidLM> Damn see today is almost tomorrow for the australians!
[10:06] <Seveas> @lobotomy
[10:06] <neutrinomass> What determines what network interfaces show up in network-admin ?
[10:07] <ktogias> @now Athens
[10:07] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Athens: June 01 2006, 11:07:04
[10:07] <guillem101> Hey! this is lasting much more I can stand for!
[10:07] <ThE-LiGhT> @now utc
[10:07] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: June 01 2006, 08:07:14
[10:07] <eobanb> neutrinomass, perhaps what network cards you have in your computer
[10:07] <guillem101> @now Barcelona
[10:07] <McNutella> @now moon
[10:07] <dunnix> ok i just installed dapper   how do i find out if it work alright?
[10:07] <scheuri> STOP THAT
[10:07] <La_PaRCa> @now berlin
[10:07] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Berlin: June 01 2006, 10:07:25
[10:07] <scheuri> arrrr
[10:07] <dunnix> seems to be doing fine
[10:07] <guillem101> @now BaMadrid
[10:07] <guillem101> @now Madrid
[10:07] <Seveas> stop playin with bots
[10:07] <McNutella> lol shilters
[10:07] <JoseStefan> leave the poor bot alone
[10:07] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Madrid: June 01 2006, 10:07:35
[10:07] <Madpilot> Enough bot-poking...
[10:07] <bliss_> whats this chatting clock!!!!!!!!
[10:07] <neutrinomass> eobanb: As well as my modems. But  one of my modems doesn't show.
[10:07] <apikoros> can gparted resize reiserfs partitions?
[10:07] <La_PaRCa> Just wanted to see how many hours to the world cup games
[10:07] <lsuactiafner> enough stop bot-poking pokings :)
[10:08] <eobanb> neutrinomass, well it's probably a winmodem.
[10:08] <Xore> @now caprica
[10:08] <Xore> ?
[10:08] <McNutella> someone shouldnt have mentioned the time command then :)
[10:08] <neutrinomass> eobanb: It's not a winmodem, it's a USB adsl modem. It works fine, but it doesn't show there.
[10:08] <mcquaid> join #tapioca-voip
[10:08] <guillem101> Seveas, we need a channel for our impaciency
[10:08] <eobanb> neutrinomass, well, it's not perfect.
[10:08] <scheuri> McNutella: one should think that here are adults...:)
[10:08] <Xore> this is irc
[10:08] <eobanb> neutrinomass, wait, adsl?
[10:08] <Xore> nobody ever accused us of being adult
[10:08] <philipacamaniac> I'm hitting F5 on Ubuntu's website more than I ever did for a ThinkGeek fortune
[10:08] <Healot> PCI/USB modems are mostly winmodems/software modem, no real modem chipset, emulated and requires CPU power
[10:08] <Fujitsu> Haha
[10:09] <neutrinomass> eobanb: Yes, ATM.
[10:09] <McNutella> scheuri, just like christmas I guessl... tee hee *giggles* yey, wooo!
[10:09] <scheuri> Xore: sorry...how impolite of me...
[10:09] <neutrinomass> Healot: It's a DSL modem. It works fine !
[10:09] <eobanb> neutrinomass, when you say 'modem' we take that to mean '56k modem'
[10:09] <scheuri> McNutella: obvisouly
[10:09] <Healot> well... if you were talking about modem...
[10:09] <g-nome> will the torrent or the mirror be faster
[10:09] <Auckland_Pig> i did "update-manager -d" and am getting too many updates... how do i disable it?
[10:09] <scheuri> g-nome: depends when you download it
[10:10] <OffHand> torrent probably
[10:10] <Healot> that DSL modem is not really a modem, it;s like a bridge with NAT/DHCP/firewall feature in it
[10:10] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig, newsflash, computers are complicated
[10:10] <neutrinomass> Anyway. Does anybody know where network-admin looks for network interfaces ?
[10:10] <Astinus-> what's the connection between CLOOP and SquashFS?
[10:10] <Healot> i don't recall what they call that DSL device
[10:10] <scheuri> g-nome: torrent might be much faster today and next few days
[10:10] <g-nome> can i downlaod it on mirror and seed it on torrent
[10:10] <g-nome> ?
[10:10] <neutrinomass> Healot: Probably. I'm not exactly sure ...
[10:10] <Auckland_Pig> eobanb: please tell how do i disable it?
[10:10] <scheuri> g-nome: you are invited to do so
[10:10] <Kr0ntab> this is almost as exciting as waiting for the 1-2-3-4-5-6 phenomenon:  $ date "+%T %D"
[10:10] <Kr0ntab> 01:02:03 04/05/06
[10:10] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig, don't run it?
[10:10] <Kr0ntab> :-P
[10:10] <neutrinomass> Healot: At least on the manufacturers website (and everywhere I've seen it) it's referred to as an "adsl modem"
[10:11] <g-nome> scheuri: well the problem is how to seed it on the dapper tracker?
[10:11] <montbazin> I'v 3 machines connected to a Cisco ethernet rooter, is there a command to se the IP adresses of the other machines ?
[10:11] <Healot> neutrinomass: they just want to make the term to be easy
[10:11] <Kr0ntab> I actually saved the output.  wutta lamer.
[10:11] <Healot> marketing purposes
[10:11] <Auckland_Pig> eobanb: there's this icon in the system tray asking me to update... can i just ignore it/
[10:11] <scheuri> g-nome: I have no idea...never done it myself...:)
[10:11] <neutrinomass> Healot: Probably. I guess it doesn't modulate anything at all. Anyway, thanks :)
[10:11] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig, if you want...i recommend you update, of course
[10:11] <disinterested_pe> well i upgraded and 6.06 is different
[10:11] <OffHand> montbazin, what if you do: ifconfig -a
[10:11] <scheuri> disinterested_pe: I hope it is
[10:11] <McNutella> good for you
[10:11] <eobanb> disinterested_pe, if it was the same, then why would you have upgraded
[10:11] <dunnix> beautiful beautiful   dapper
[10:11] <Auckland_Pig> eobanb: i only have limited bandwidth... and it downloads lots of packages daily
[10:12] <Healot> neutrinomass: it does modulates, but it doesn't require "dialing" >> this what modems suppose to do
[10:12] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig, well get a CD from shipit then
[10:12] <philipacamaniac> Auckland_Pig:  it will do that until the final release
[10:12] <scheuri> Auckland_Pig: that will stop as of today...:)
[10:12] <Auckland_Pig> philipacamaniac: so i need not worry after today :)
[10:12] <khermans> Auto-Dapper-Torrentify on release: http://kristianhermansen.com/tmp/DapperTorrent
[10:12] <Auckland_Pig> scheuri: great
[10:12] <philipacamaniac> well, in less than 18 hours...
[10:12] <Auckland_Pig> :)
[10:12] <neutrinomass> Healot: Ahh, ok, thanks :) I'm not exactly sure how Adsl works, I have to read up on the subject .
[10:12] <scheuri> Auckland_Pig: I mean....you need to download ALL of them today and after today mostly only security updates occur
[10:13] <JoseStefan> what can i expect from the dapper-updates repository ?
[10:13] <montbazin> OffHand: ifconfig -a only shows the IPs on the machine I'm working at
[10:14] <khermans> JoseStefan, updates
[10:14] <OffHand> montbazin: netstat -a
[10:14] <khermans> Joetheodd, btw--its here -> http://kristianhermansen.com/tmp/DapperTorrent
[10:14] <JoseStefan> i mean, how big updates?
[10:14] <highvoltage> i think people are waiting for release to blog about it :)
[10:14] <Seveas> highvoltage, heh
[10:14] <khermans> JoseStefan, i mean it uses HEAD now
[10:14] <La_PaRCa> khermans, nice use of sed
[10:14] <liquidindian> Hello, I'm having a problem, and I don't know where to start trying to fix it.  I can't access the terminal, certain things in firefox don't work, synaptic and the update manager don't open...
[10:14] <Fujitsu> :O
[10:14] <khermans> La_PaRCa, you being facetious!!!
[10:14] <Fujitsu> A support request!
[10:14] <Auckland_Pig> i am pretty frustrated with Gaim release cycles... they should learn from ubuntu
[10:14] <mcmahons> liquidindian: are you running dapper
[10:14] <Fujitsu> What errors does it give, if any?
[10:15] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig, agreed
[10:15] <liquidindian> mcmahons, yep
[10:15] <mcmahons> Auckland_Pig: gaim needs serious work
[10:15] <JoseStefan> khermans: you sure it's gonna page you
[10:15] <highvoltage> !dapper
[10:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[10:15] <khermans> Joetheodd, lol why?
[10:15] <Viaken> liquidindian: I had that problem with the dapper beta a little earlier. It happened when I would resume from hibernate. Rebooting fixed it, and updating everything fixed it for good.
[10:15] <khermans> JoseStefan, yes it should
[10:15] <disinterested_pe> yeah it does mcmahons
[10:15] <blue25h> hi ya
[10:15] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig and mcmahons, hopefully adium will do for gaim what ubuntu has done for debian
[10:15] <mind> hello, i need some help regarding screen resolution in ubuntu. Who can i privmsg ?
[10:15] <highvoltage> 10:15 < highvoltage> !dapper
[10:15] <mcmahons> liquidindian: try updating later today see if that fixes everything
[10:15] <highvoltage> 10:15 < ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[10:15] <DarkTower> adium?
[10:15] <highvoltage> oops, sorry
[10:16] <eobanb> mind, you can just ask here.
[10:16] <Auckland_Pig> gaim can still keep releasing while working on it..... dont understand why it needs to be kept in beta sooo long
[10:16] <khermans> JoseStefan, I bet you $100 i'm say "TOLD YOU SO" within one minutes of the release -- and I'll probably be asleep!
[10:16] <Auckland_Pig> just like google
[10:16] <montbazin> OffHand: netstat doesnt work either, it show everything on my machine, thas all
[10:16] <liquidindian> mcmahons, I can't open the terminal, though, or synaptic.  Is there any other way of doing that?
[10:16] <JoseStefan> khermans: no worries, i believe you
[10:16] <blue25h> both my printers worked ok in suse but refuse to work on ubuntu lol
[10:17] <OffHand> montbazin, I'm sorry. Maybe someone else knows
[10:17] <Auckland_Pig> !adium
[10:17] <ubotu> Auckland_Pig: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:17] <onkarshinde> liquidindian: why can't you open terminal?
[10:17] <khermans> JoseStefan, im just messing around -- i should make the script post in here automatically with a notice though
[10:17] <linav> heard google got its own version of ubuntu with all google pkgs preinstalled
[10:17] <Auckland_Pig> !gaim
[10:17] <Viaken> liquidindian: ctrl-alt-F1 to switch to a virtual terminal, do what you need to, then restart gdm (/etc/init.d/gdm restart)
[10:17] <ubotu> it has been said that gaim is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto
[10:17] <linav> is it true
[10:17] <philipacamaniac> blue25h: what types of printers?
[10:17] <Viaken> liquidindian: Or ctrl-alt-f7 to switch back to X before restarting gdm.
[10:17] <montbazin> OffHand: thanx , have a nice day
[10:17] <mind> ok, so i've just installed ubuntu, everything seems to be working fine, except screen resolution. I can't set it higher than 1024 x 768, 60 hz. I qouldn't mind the low resolution per-say, but the 60 hz refresh rate is killing my eyes :>. My monitor can do 1600 x 1200 @ 85 hz, it's an LG f900B (19') flatron. Thanks
[10:17] <xukun> if I want to make a new folder on my usb stick then I get the message: "Error Read only File System"
[10:17] <Fujitsu> Seveas, < 16 hours!
[10:17] <_nano_> !dapper
[10:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[10:17] <linav> but thatz for just google employees, not for everyone
[10:17] <khermans> La_PaRCa, how would you clean uup my sed?
[10:17] <JoseStefan> khermans: that notice wont be necesary, i'm sure we will get 1000s
[10:17] <eobanb> mind, what graphics card do you have
[10:17] <Fujitsu> !dapper s/18/16/
[10:17] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Fujitsu
[10:17] <khermans> lol
[10:17] <ompaul> Fujitsu, so he is right
[10:17] <blue25h> hp desk jet 5550 and samsung 1610
[10:17] <shriphani> gus i got a q
[10:17] <mind> Leadtek 6800GT
[10:17] <Fujitsu> ompaul, true.
[10:18] <ompaul> Fujitsu, ;-)
[10:18] <La_PaRCa> khermans, I wasnt making fun of it. I was commending you. sed is overlooked much these days.
[10:18] <eobanb> !tell mind about nvidia
[10:18] <Fujitsu> I haven't use ubotu in a while.
[10:18] <shriphani> how do i get ubuntu to ask me if i want to boot in gnome or console
[10:18] <dizz1> Again 18 Hours?
[10:18] <La_PaRCa> Seveas, Um, no. I will have a pony if I want a damn pony.
[10:18] <khermans> La_PaRCa, it's actually very hacky -- there must be a better way
[10:18] <Seveas> La_PaRCa, NO YOU CAN'T HAV A PONY!
[10:18] <matt_> Hi all, I am having problems with .rar files.  I have a rar file that i created on a windows machine which i want to extract on ubuntu.  I think i will need the nonfree version of unrar as the archive is probably version 3.  i have tried adding the multiverse source and running an apt-get update.  I have then tried apt-get install unrar-nonfree but i keep getting an error
[10:18] <Auckland_Pig> shriphani: cant you do that on the login screen menu?
[10:18] <ompaul> dizz1, no less than
[10:18] <kevor> Wow, what happened to rhythmbox!!! it's actually perfect now :)
[10:18] <eobanb> shriphani, in gdm you can select text mode
[10:18] <JoseStefan> shriphani: search the wiki
[10:18] <khermans> matt_, aptitude install rar unrar
[10:18] <philipacamaniac> blue25h: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[10:19] <OffHand> my little pony
[10:19] <La_PaRCa> Seveas, Well, if I cant have a pony, can I at least have some dapper final ISOs?
[10:19] <blue25h> every thing else works fine but the prnters sighs
[10:19] <neutrinomass> matt_: The package name is 'unrar' IIRC
[10:19] <shriphani> i mean if i want to boot into console once and once in gnome how ?
[10:19] <Seveas> La_PaRCa, in a few hours 
[10:19] <onkarshinde> I believe todays daily build ISO is not going to be changed anyway. So it is final. Am I wrong?
[10:19] <xukun> can I change the owner of my usb stick?
[10:19] <philipacamaniac> blue25h: notice HP desktjet 5550 uses the hpijs driver and is known to work
[10:19] <Xore> apt-get vs. aptitude. Comments, anyone? Alot of people i know say "use aptitude" but tutorials everywhere use apt-get
[10:19] <neutrinomass> s
[10:19] <philipacamaniac> blue25h: sighs?
[10:19] <JoseStefan> shriphani: you can switch from console to x, with ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+f7 respectivly
[10:19] <neutrinomass> (sorry, hit enter accidentally )
[10:19] <matt_> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[10:20] <kevor> khermans matt_ : also aptitude install unrar-nonfree
[10:20] <eobanb> Xore, i'd just try both and see what you like
[10:20] <scheuri> Xore: aptitude has a better "memory" of what has been installed and can uninstall unneeded and abandonned libs easier
[10:20] <blue25h> okies is looking ty
[10:20] <Fujitsu> Xore, aptitude is newer, and generally preferred.
[10:20] <matt_> what does aptitude do compared to apt-get?
[10:20] <matt_> oh okay
[10:20] <shriphani> hmm i mean cant it be done at boot time
[10:20] <neutrinomass> matt_ Are you sure you enabled multiverse/universe correctly ?
[10:20] <apikoros> does either the ubuntu livecd or install cd have reiserfs tools?
[10:20] <zjimbo> ne one tried Smart pkg man
[10:20] <Auckland_Pig> what version of gaim does dapper have?
[10:21] <matt_> well i think i did all line with multiverse at the end i uncommented in the sources.list
[10:21] <Fujitsu> zjimbo, syntax error.
[10:21] <Auckland_Pig> 1.5 or 2.0.0b3
[10:21] <Seveas> zjimbo, we speak english in here, not breezah/sms
[10:21] <onkarshinde> Auckland_Pig: 1.5.0
[10:21] <Auckland_Pig> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:21] <scheuri> matt: try a "aptitude search rar"
[10:21] <ompaul> !info gaim dapper
[10:21] <ubotu> gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), Packaged size: 816 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB
[10:21] <Viaken> So how do we check for unneeded/abandoned libs?
[10:21] <P0ldy> Auckland_Pig, 1.5.1cvs
[10:21] <philipacamaniac> blue25h: per another comment on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters , try using the ML-1710 driver with your Samsung ML-1610
 if you want 2b install it yourself  :)
[10:21] <khermans> Auckland_Pig, just get the 2.0 DEB
[10:21] <RancidLM> what version of gnome is 6.06 coming with?
[10:21] <eobanb> Auckland_Pig, like it or not, gaim 2.x is not ready for prime time.
[10:21] <ompaul> 2.14
[10:21] <Burgundavia> RancidLM: 2.14
[10:21] <Seveas> RancidLM, 2.14.1
[10:21] <Seveas> (.2 will be in the updates)
[10:22] <Hit3k> How do i enter a second wep key?
[10:22] <ompaul> the answer got better as it went along
[10:22] <shriphani> hello i need help
[10:22] <eobanb> shriphani, don't ask to ask, just ask
[10:22] <onkarshinde> Viaken: If you are using Synaptic then install deborphan package and after that you have to set a custom filter
[10:22] <cute_bettong> hi ompaul ^_^
[10:22] <ompaul> cute_bettong, 'lo
[10:22] <mind> eobanb, may i msg you please ?
[10:22] <Viaken> I'll look into it. Thanks, onkarshinde.
[10:22] <scheuri> Seveas: updates as in security updates?
[10:22] <shriphani> yeh i want to make ubuntu show me a choice of booting in console or gnome
[10:22] <eobanb> mind, if you like.
[10:23] <Seveas> scheuri, no, updates as in updates\
[10:23] <onkarshinde> Auckland_Pig: I am personally using Gaim2b3. My advice is don't give beta to friends who are new to linux.
[10:23] <scheuri> Seveas: ah okay...a special repository I presume
[10:23] <mcmahons> onkarshinde: what has changed in the beta
[10:23] <zjimbo> Ah, ok please accept my apologies im just so exited about this Smart Package Manager it, how do you say... shits on Suse's package manager, aka Yast2
[10:24] <Polibio> hallo
[10:24] <eobanb> welcome, Polibio
[10:24] <onkarshinde> mcmahons: Lot of things. Accounts management, plugin management, preferences
[10:24] <matt_> scheuri: i have run the search and it foudn the unrar-nonfree now what i tried aptitude install unrar-nonfree and it says no candidate version found
[10:24] <RancidLM> will ubuntu have a yast console type utility?
[10:24] <mcmahons> onkarshinde: do you like it?
[10:24] <Fujitsu> zjimbo, apt-get is significantly better than anything RPM-based anyway!
[10:24] <eobanb> 'yast console type utility'??
[10:24] <La_PaRCa> ompaul, if they say dapper will "release june 1st" I can say this brush is a pony.
[10:24] <shriphani> guys please make it clear on how to boot in console or gnome at will
[10:25] <Viaken> RancidLM: Like apt?
[10:25] <scheuri> matt_: after doing the search...what letter is in front of unrar-nofree?
[10:25] <reon> Hmm, see the 6.06 iso's are available
[10:25] <zjimbo> can't you apt - at comand?
[10:25] <matt_> scheuri: v
[10:25] <Fujitsu> !dapper
[10:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[10:25] <ompaul> La_PaRCa, but somebody is wrong ;-)
[10:25] <Fujitsu> reon, read the topic please.
[10:25] <flowolf> hi all
[10:25] <onkarshinde> mcmahons: Yes I do. But I was basically disappointed that no VV functionality is there.
[10:25] <Hit3k> How do i enter a second wep key?
[10:25] <mcmahons> onkarshinde: vv?
[10:25] <onkarshinde> @now utc
[10:25] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: June 01 2006, 08:25:37
[10:25] <La_PaRCa> ompaul, well, June 1st is almost over in auusiland, so there you go.
[10:25] <blue25h> when the next vertion of ubunto comes live will it up date or do you need to down load the cd ?
[10:25] <Polibio> has any of you the message: "10 CDs approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-05-24" in the shipit pages?
[10:25] <reon> Fujitsu, What about it ?
[10:25] <flowolf> dapper installer crashes on my pc
[10:25] <RancidLM> Viaken: na, u see yast basicly was a console based text gui control panel
[10:25] <flowolf> that's odd
[10:25] <scheuri> matt_: that means it is a virtual package, not really existing...this used if you may install severel packages which belong togehter in once or if the package actually does not exist...
[10:25] <ompaul> @now nz
[10:25] <Viaken> Ah ok
[10:25] <[Yatta] > excuse me... is it /etc/profile that i use to edit the system wide path???
[10:25] <Ubugtu> Current time in NZ: June 01 2006, 20:25:59
[10:26] <BadriNarayan> Polibio: I got that
[10:26] <ompaul> La_PaRCa, 4 hours in your neighbour
[10:26] <mcmahons> La_PaRCa: well theres still 5 1/2 hours to go. jeff said itll be there before bed.
[10:26] <Fujitsu> reon, Dapper has /not/ been released yet.
[10:26] <Seveas> Polibio, the *order* was sent to the shipping company
[10:26] <scheuri> matt_: sorry, cant spell anymore...
[10:26] <shriphani> people how do i make ubuntu give me a choice of booting in console or in gnome at startup
[10:26] <Mithrandir> [Yatta] : no, /etc/environment
[10:26] <Fujitsu> Seveas, it is ambiguous.
[10:26] <flowolf> can it be a problem with xfs as / partition?
[10:26] <Seveas> Fujitsu, indeed
[10:26] <onkarshinde> mcmahons: Voice And Video. There was a seperate fork of Gaim that had implemented it. Plans are to integrate in Gaim. I thought it would be Gaim2. Also I expected at least GTalk VoIP in Gaim2
[10:26] <[Yatta] > ohhhhhh thanks.. that explain why my stuff wasn't working
[10:26] <Fujitsu> `# CDs approved and sent to shipping company' implies the CDs have been sent.
[10:26] <matt_> scheuri: so there is no way to extract my rar file on my ubuntu box?
[10:26] <reon> Fujitsu, Well it seems to be on the servers regardless what the topic says. Unless I've got the cat by the tail.
[10:26] <Auckland_Pig> shriphani: you should be able to do that from the GDM login screen
[10:26] <eobanb> reon, if you read the topic, you would see that dapper is not out yet.  and since it's not out yet, ISOs are not yet available.  understand?
[10:26] <Seveas> flowolf, xfs as / is always probelematic if you don't have a separate /boot
[10:26] <Polibio> Seveas, "10 CDs approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-05-24"  the CDs, not the order", have you a similar phrase?
[10:27] <shriphani> ok so i type startx ?
[10:27] <Viaken> shriphani: Would involve changing the default runlevel by editing your /etc/grub.conf (or would it be /boot/grub.conf?). I don't know beyond that.
[10:27] <Auckland_Pig> shriphani: you can try "alt + F1"
[10:27] <mcmahons> onkarshinde: ok, doess that stuff work in ekiga?
[10:27] <highvoltage> shriphani: you cna edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[10:27] <shriphani> ok
[10:27] <scheuri> matt_: I actually wonder why this package is not available...gimme a sec...I will check
[10:27] <La_PaRCa> Whats the name of the package on dapper to install the whole LAMP stack?
[10:27] <highvoltage> shriphani: and make it boot to a runlevel that doesn't start gdm
[10:27] <mind>  in the tutorial it says that "If you are running Hoary Hedgehog or Breezy Badger, then install nvidia-settings. DO NOT install nvidia-settings in Dapper Drake because it will remove nvidia-glx". how i know what i'm running ? :)
[10:27] <onkarshinde> mcmahons: Haven't tried Ekiga. I am still on Breezy
[10:27] <reon> eobanb, I CAN read. All I said is that the iso's are available, you don't have to believe me.
[10:27] <mcmahons> onkarshinde: oh ok cool :)
[10:27] <[Yatta] > Mithrandir,  i only see 2 lines in that thing?
[10:27] <Polibio> BadriNarayan, but you are sure you asked for the Dapper, not Breeze?
[10:27] <Seveas> mind, lsb_release -a
[10:27] <highvoltage> mind: click on system -> about ubuntu
[10:28] <Major_Delta> t
[10:28] <xukun> What  ever I do I get the error that I can write on my usb stick becouse I dont have permission to write and its read only
[10:28] <khermans> La_PaRCa, good question!
[10:28] <BadriNarayan> Polibio: Yes. And Seveas' answer pertains to Dapper
[10:28] <scheuri> matt_: are you using dapper??
[10:28] <onkarshinde> xukun: Did you manually mount it? Or did it get automatically mounted?
[10:28] <reon> Fujitsu, the iso's are available though. ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[10:28] <[Yatta] > i wan tto add /usr/local/src/mythtv to my path .. I put it in /etc/profile but that doens't seem to work??
[10:28] <matt_> scheuri: no breezy
[10:29] <scheuri> matt_: okay...just another sec...
[10:29] <Auckland_Pig> will my hard disk life reduce if i keep my ubuntu switched on 24/7?
[10:29] <Fujitsu> reon, nobody said they were the final, official ones.
[10:29] <Polibio> ok, BadriNarayan, I was afraid they had sent the Dapper CD's
[10:29] <onkarshinde> Auckland_Pig: That depends on hard disk and not on OS
[10:29] <mind> sorry for the copy/paste, this is what i get "mind@dyn-85:~$ lsb_release -a
[10:29] <mind> LSB Version:    n/a
[10:29] <mind> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[10:29] <mind> Description:    Ubuntu (The Breezy Badger Release)
[10:29] <mind> Release:        5.10
[10:29] <khermans> Auckland_Pig, of course -- but who cares?
[10:29] <mind> Codename:       breezy
[10:29] <mind> "
[10:29] <blue25h> how do you quit this thing ? giggles
[10:29] <[Yatta] > can i just dit-upgrade to upgrade my Dapper FLight 7 to the final?
[10:29] <scheuri> matt_: try "aptitude install unrar-free unrar-nonfree"
[10:29] <khermans> Auckland_Pig, i've run Ubuntu since Warty -- kept my comp up all the time
[10:29] <Prof_Frink> [Yatta] : Yep
[10:29] <croppa> I am running Ubuntu Dapper and have a divco hdtv-t card. I have installed v4l-dvb-7bb558ec2684 and the picture is perfect however there is no sound. The sound works when a dvd is played.I am using xine.Where should I look to rectify my problem.
[10:30] <[Yatta] > no other clue on the path thing?
[10:30] <MonsieurBon> does anyone know more about the release hour of dapper?
[10:30] <La_PaRCa> !dapper
[10:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[10:30] <joshhendo> nope
[10:30] <MonsieurBon> I can't wait any longer! :)
[10:31] <Linuturk> they are toying with us
[10:31] <scheuri> MonsieurBon: then we apologize for your pain
[10:31] <reon> Fujitsu, true but it does not look like they are changing either.
[10:31] <matt_> scheuri: same error, i have managed to install a version of unrar, i think it was the free one, but it wont work with my rar file i think from what i read because the file is version 3
[10:31] <onkarshinde> MonsieurBon: Download latest CD image. I think It won't change.
[10:31] <Auckland_Pig> khermans: i'm just a bit anxious that something might happen to my hard disk. because i've kept mine on for nearly 2 months... with just 3 reboots.....
[10:31] <Fujitsu> It may not change.
[10:31] <Auckland_Pig> !harddisk
[10:31] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Auckland_Pig
[10:31] <Fujitsu> But it may.
[10:31] <philipacamaniac> MonsieurBon: and it comes with a free pony
[10:31] <lsuactiafner> erm, chances are they are just setting up many mirrors, otherwise if one mirror releases it and everyone tries to download it the mirror alone wont cope
[10:31] <pseudodeadkitty> MonsieurBon: how do you think I feel? I was up at 9AM PST waiting for it, and it's now 1:31AM PST now.
[10:31] <onkarshinde> Fujitsu: Then there is always jigdo
[10:31] <ThE-LiGhT> !pony
[10:31] <khermans> Auckland_Pig, well i routinely keep mine up for months too
[10:31] <ubotu> ThE-LiGhT: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:32] <ThE-LiGhT> what is "!PONY" ?
[10:32] <Fujitsu> onkarshinde, that's what I use anyway... But what has that got to do with the price of fish?
[10:32] <Auckland_Pig> !pony
[10:32] <Fujitsu> ThE-LiGhT, something that'll get you kicked.
[10:32] <Fujitsu> It was deleted a while ago.
[10:32] <onkarshinde> Fujitsu: I was talking about CD.
[10:32] <Fujitsu> onkarshinde, people should use jigdo anyway!
[10:32] <Soir> Fujitsu: that's not very informative ^^
[10:32] <vdaron> Hi all ! I need some help installing Dapper on RAID 5. INstaller hang while installing grub ...
[10:32] <rpaul> anyone know how many kW hours a computer uses while idle if left on 24 hours a day 7 days a week?
[10:33] <ThE-LiGhT> Fujitsu, thx
[10:33] <Soir> rpaul: less than a TV
[10:33] <ompaul> Soir, its playing with the bot - that gets people kicked ( ThE-LiGhT )
[10:33] <La_PaRCa> rpaul, well, your average pc without a monitor can use up about 200w
[10:33] <La_PaRCa> rpaul, 300w depending on the load
[10:33] <dooglus> Auckland_Pig: I would think that using a hard disk is more likely to wear it out than not using it.
[10:33] <onkarshinde> I want to print Ubuntu logo on coffee mug. Does any one know if there is any legal problem?
[10:34] <ThE-LiGhT> ompaul, 10q too
[10:34] <dooglus> Auckland_Pig: for maximum lifetime, never use it, ever.
[10:34] <rpaul> 200w an hour ... 300*24*7/1000 = 50.4 KW per week
[10:34] <JoseStefan> i think the mug must be GNU
[10:34] <scheuri> matt_: well,...try it first with free-version...it works with free and nonfree here with my breezy...seems you have not all repositories open (have you made a aptitude update lately?)
[10:34] <scheuri> wow
[10:34] <scheuri> its calm.-....toooo calm
[10:34] <rpaul> opps, that is for 300 kW
[10:34] <onkarshinde> JoseStefan: What does that mean?
[10:34] <Auckland_Pig> dooglus: i've got 2 harddisks.... and the 2nd one is mounted... but used like 1hour a day..... so was worrying if it might wear out sooner
[10:34] <dooglus> rpaul: "w an hour"?  watt's that mean?
[10:34] <dhonn> rpaul depends on your system
[10:34] <lsuactiafner> or.. try putting an iso together with jigit :)
[10:34] <JoseStefan> !gnu
[10:34] <ubotu> [gnu]  Not Unix. See http://www.gnu.org
[10:34] <imbrandon> onkarshinde, http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy/
[10:34] <Auckland_Pig> dooglus: i'm not worried about the primary disk.... only the second one
[10:35] <zjimbo> is there a viable alternative to mains energy?
[10:35] <Fracture> onkarshinde: I think he means that if you want to distribute your mug, after printing ubuntu on it, you need to make it GPL
[10:35] <philipacamaniac> hey, we're getting closer to that 1000 user mark
[10:35] <rpaul> my total energy for the entire house is about 110kW per week
[10:35] <McNutella> its been done, in the official ubuntu shop :)
[10:35] <JoseStefan> yeah that
[10:35] <onkarshinde> Fracture: I am not distributing it. It will be for personal use.
[10:35] <dhonn> amd x2 4200+ system/2gb of ram uses 51 watts draw lol
[10:35] <onkarshinde> imbrandon: Checking
[10:35] <JoseStefan> i must be getting sleepy
[10:35] <rpaul> so if i left my computer on 24/7 i would use abou t 150kw a week
[10:35] <redloff> h, how to disable flash in firefox 1.5.0.3?
[10:35] <rpaul> big change
[10:35] <ompaul> onkarshinde, you can get them from cafepress afik
[10:35] <matt_> scheuri: i have always just used the apt-get but have just done a aptitude update now, still not working doesn't find the package again
[10:36] <Fracture> onkarshinde: I bought one from Cafe press
[10:36] <dooglus> rpaul: you can't measure energy use in kW per week - that's a rate of acceleration of energy use
[10:36] <MonsieurBon> philipacamaniac, yeah cool, a pony!!!
[10:36] <matt_> scheuri: i must have the sources setup wrong i guess
[10:36] <McNutella> my box has been on for over two years, ive yet to run into emergancy power because of it
[10:36] <rpaul> 150kWh per week then
[10:36] <g-nome> does anyone know: which os has MORE USERS: linux or mac ? (with and without server?)
[10:36] <RancidLM> kinda off topic.. any one know how to disable auto read on thunderbird?
[10:36] <rpaul> dooglus: is that right now?
[10:36] <McNutella> g-nome, ill bet google knows that one ;)
[10:36] <philipacamaniac> g-nome: with server most certainly Linux
[10:36] <Fujitsu> Hi YukiCuss.
[10:36] <_nano_> onkarshinde: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy?highlight=%28logo%29
[10:37] <onkarshinde> ompaul: Fracture: I am in India. I guess getting from cafepress will be very costly for me.
[10:37] <[Yatta] > Mithrandir,  Thanks for the help :D it worked.. i could use the profile but then i would have to use export
[10:37] <Auckland_Pig> 957 users.... wooo hoo
[10:37] <JanJoost> hi
[10:37] <dooglus> rpaul: I don't know if it's right, but at least the units mean something now.  (I'm 6 feet per second tall, by the way)
[10:37] <JanJoost> silly question: is there anyone who's managed to get xv installed on breezy?
[10:37] <rpaul> dooglus: you are growing fast
[10:37] <YukiCuss> Fujitsu, yup.
[10:37] <JanJoost> (xv as in the image viewer)
[10:37] <zjimbo> 961 now
[10:37] <dooglus> rpaul: so are your electricity bills
[10:37] <Fracture> onkarshinde: the idea of the trademark policy is to protect the ubuntu and canonical image.  so if you are should be fine
[10:37] <McNutella> lol
[10:37] <La_PaRCa> dooglus, w per hour means using a watt for an hour
[10:37] <rpaul> dooglus: they would be if i left my computer on all the time
[10:38] <K|NgGh0sT> I'm trying to follow, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623 and I'm getting an error
[10:38] <scheuri> matt_: I guess there is something wrong with your sources.list
[10:38] <JoseStefan> ETA 22 minutes, for my bed time
[10:38] <Auckland_Pig> will i get a pony with my dapper cd's?
[10:38] <Fracture> !pony
[10:38] <ubotu> Fracture: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:38] <dooglus> La_PaRCa: no, it doesn't.  "1 watt hour" is using a watt for an hour.  watt per hour doesn't mean much.
[10:38] <Auckland_Pig> :p
[10:38] <rpaul> La_PaRCa: i write just 150Kw per week before, so he is write
[10:38] <pseudodeadkitty> Everyone should get a pony for this.
[10:38] <g-nome> McNutella: tried google, but did not found anything
[10:38] <philipacamaniac> Auckland_Pig: no, see topic. heh.
[10:38] <La_PaRCa> dooglus, you are strictly right
[10:38] <_nano_> onkarshinde: i think printing ubuntu logo on a personal coffee mug comes within "fair use"
[10:38] <rpaul> La_PaRCa: wow that was a bad sentence by me :P
[10:38] <McNutella> g-nome, guess you will just have to guess.. my gueses are both would be linux
[10:39] <Seveas> JanJoost, I *think* I had it installed on Breey
[10:39] <matt_> scheuri: if you are on breezy would you be able to paste your sources.list in a message window and i can compare please
[10:39] <JanJoost> seveas: ooh!
[10:39] <Burgundavia> _nano_: provided your country has a concept of fair use
[10:39] <scheuri> matt_: aye...
[10:39] <g-nome> you think linux has MORE dekstop users than mac?
[10:39] <disinterested_pe> ubuntu says my ferrari is in the mail
[10:39] <McNutella> onkarshinde, besides, for personal use im sure you could get away without even having to bother abotu asking or worrying
[10:39] <K|NgGh0sT> I'm trying to follow, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623 basically trying to get WPA to work... and I'm getting an error... http://pastebin.ca/60546
[10:39] <rpaul> mac would bemore than linux for desktop use i reckon
[10:39] <Xore> matt_: how about you use pastebin?
[10:39] <JanJoost> seveas: I managed to find a debian package, but that won't install since it has a dependency on xlib6g (which is not to be found)
[10:39] <g-nome> if so that would be great and force all the industry to finally create software for linux too
[10:39] <Fracture> http://www.ruinsbruins.com/PONYsm.jpg
[10:39] <Fracture> pony !!
[10:39] <matt_> Xore pastebin?
[10:40] <scheuri> matt_: do you see my messages?
[10:40] <dooglus> g-nome: I think OS-X is more widely used than Linux
[10:40] <dreamless> Can i have a pony?
[10:40] <apokryphos> dreamless: /topic
[10:40] <ompaul> dreamless, bill says not
[10:40] <dooglus> dreamless: we'll just have to see
[10:40] <matt_> scheuri: i have replied in the message window, can you not see it?
[10:40] <Xore> http://welcome_to_teh_intarweb.pastebin.com/   =)
[10:40] <cham3leon> Hi to all
[10:40] <dreamless> ompaul: damn ;)
[10:40] <dooglus> OMG!
[10:40] <g-nome> it would be interesting to have recent inofmation about that, doogluas
[10:40] <dhonn> rpaul: my bill states i used  291 kWh in 31 days: 9.4 kWh per day, i have two computers on 24/7
[10:40] <dreamless> apokryphos: hehe i know just fooling around
[10:40] <cham3leon> i'm having some problems trying to install the flash plugin for Opera browser
[10:41] <cham3leon> can someone help me?
[10:41] <mdz> GOOD MORNING UBUNTU LOVERS
[10:41] <shriphani> ok guys if i press alt-f1 at boot time i shall be in the console ?
[10:41] <l_r> is there anyone who already has a dapper drake iso image?
[10:41] <Seveas> hi mdz
[10:41] <dreamless> dooglus: guess so :P
[10:41] <philipacamaniac> mdz: released?????
[10:41] <bvanaerde> somebody said lovers?
[10:41] <philipacamaniac> j/k
[10:41] <K|NgGh0sT> I'm trying to follow, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623 basically trying to get WPA to work... and I'm getting an error... http://pastebin.ca/60546
[10:41] <McNutella> yes lovers :D
[10:41] <Auckland_Pig> where's the picture of the pony?
[10:41] <JoseStefan> shriphani: ctrl+alt+f1, at the ubuntu logon screen
[10:41] <McNutella> we all love our ubuntu more than our girlfriends
[10:41] <Xore> /pony
[10:41] <Fracture> http://www.ruinsbruins.com/PONYsm.jpg
[10:41] <matt_> scheuri: pastebin is a website for pasting i think
[10:41] <Xore> aw damn. my script is broken
[10:41] <shriphani> ok
[10:41] <scheuri> matt_: pasting my stuff just disconnected me...;)...so...
[10:41] <bvanaerde> that's because you geeks don't have a girlfriend... easy :p
[10:41] <shriphani> how do i boot back in gnome ?
[10:41] <rpaul> dhonn: Hmm, so 0.2kWh is not a good approximation of power usage for a computer.  that is a releif
[10:42] <guillem101> McNutella, at least we try to love as much as we can
[10:42] <rpaul> *relief
[10:42] <cham3leon> it works for firefox but not for opera
[10:42] <JoseStefan> shriphani: ctrl+alt+f7
[10:42] <zjimbo> how would you define of a server?
[10:42] <shriphani> oh thankx
[10:42] <zjimbo> use
[10:42] <McNutella> guillem101, and it loves us too!
[10:42] <gantchev> hi
[10:42] <JoseStefan> shriphani: and 2 tru 6 gives you more consoles
[10:42] <JoseStefan> thru*
[10:42] <philipacamaniac> bvanaerde: yeah, some of us geeks have a wife
[10:42] <bvanaerde> but then again, Ubuntu has never gotten on my nerves...
[10:42] <shriphani> that is f2 ?
[10:42] <McNutella> did you notice that mdz didnt jump in and ask when ;)
[10:42] <K|NgGh0sT> I'm trying to follow, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623 basically trying to get WPA to work... and I'm getting an error... http://pastebin.ca/60546
[10:42] <bvanaerde> include me too ;)
[10:42] <JoseStefan> shriphani: yes
[10:42] <Fracture> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/files/no-pony-for-you.jpg
[10:42] <Kholerabb1> Is dapper out?
[10:42] <McNutella> lol
[10:43] <Auckland_Pig> how fast are all mirrors on ubuntu download page going to update to dapper once its released?
[10:43] <Seveas> Kholerabb1, /topic
[10:43] <shriphani> ok so ctrl-alt-f2 ?
[10:43] <scheuri> matt_: you received my massage?
[10:43] <vinboy> anyone here use tetex? i need big help
[10:43] <McNutella> I reckon Kholerabb1 doesnt read the MOTD either
[10:43] <JoseStefan> shriphani: yep, "+f1" thru "+f7"
[10:43] <philipacamaniac> Auckland_Pig: slow
[10:43] <Xore> I wonder how many people would die if this channel decided to stampede for the exits
[10:43] <shriphani> ok so that is all consoles ?
[10:43] <McNutella> Auckland_Pig, 6k
[10:43] <dhonn> rpaul, is your system intel or amd, intel total system power uses at least 2x of amd
[10:43] <shriphani> and f7 is gnome
[10:43] <JoseStefan> shriphani: F7 is gui
[10:43] <shriphani> oh
[10:43] <shriphani> rest are all consoles
[10:43] <JoseStefan> yes
[10:44] <shriphani> how do i switch between them ?
[10:44] <rpaul> dhonn: depends on the CPU, but mine is a pretty old amd, i'd say it would eat the power.
[10:44] <bvanaerde> for those people asking for a pony...
[10:44] <Kholerabb1> Right :) sorry
[10:44] <bvanaerde> there still are some for sale here: http://last.fm
[10:44] <dhonn> rpaul, i used kill-a-watt to measure all the systems in frys
[10:44] <alsa> any one know how to copy a file from an ssh session to localhost
[10:44] <JoseStefan> ctrl+alt+f1
[10:44] <alsa> !ssh
[10:44] <ubotu> well, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[10:44] <bvanaerde> check the list on the right
[10:44] <tiagoboldt> first time I switched screens, i did ctrl+alt+f1 accidently and had to reboot because i didn't know how to get back :X
[10:45] <Fracture> !pony http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/47
[10:45] <ubotu> Fracture: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:45] <Fracture> http://www.hasbro.com/mylittlepony/
[10:45] <Auckland_Pig> tiagoboldt: agrees
[10:45] <Seveas> JanJoost, hmm, I think it was xview (from xloadimage I had installed...)
[10:45] <JoseStefan> ctrl+alt+f7 gets you back
[10:45] <tiagoboldt> yes, i know.. now.. :P
[10:45] <disinterested_pe> my pc uses more power than the refridgerator lol
[10:45] <extern> what IDE should I use for C++ development?
[10:45] <shriphani> i mean JoseStefan how do i switch between consoles
[10:45] <Fracture> for those who are deaf : http://commtechlab.msu.edu/sites/aslweb/P/W2960.htm
[10:45] <Xore> i wonder if next year's /. april fools joke will last as long as this one
[10:45] <JoseStefan> shriphani: same way
[10:46] <ubuntubes> does anybody know how to access mysql after installed it?
[10:46] <shriphani> ok wow
[10:46] <Edward_TLS> just type mysql
[10:46] <guillem101> Fracture, http://www.slashdot.org
[10:46] <H080J03> hello how do you get a h264 movie to play?
[10:46] <McNutella> Xore, hahahaha dont be so mean LOL
[10:46] <Xore> maybe it's just that there a little girl inside all of us that's using the meme as a means to express ourselves
[10:46] <rpaul> dhonn: i need to get one of them, what is frys?
[10:46] <zjimbo> how do you exit the manual pages from a terminal?
[10:46] <guillem101> Fracture, ho, sorry today is June 1st, not April 1st
[10:46] <McNutella> zjimbo, man
[10:46] <H080J03> q will exit the man pages
[10:47] <scheuri> zjimbo: by pressing Q
[10:47] <alsa> any one know how to copy a file from an ssh session to localhost?
[10:47] <BadriNarayan> zjimbo: press q
[10:47] <McNutella> oh I should wake up
[10:47] <JoseStefan> zjimbo, shift+q
[10:47] <alsa> ompaul
[10:47] <Seveas> alsa, scp
[10:47] <alsa> u there ?
[10:47] <Kr0ntab> welp... up to 965...
[10:47] <disinterested_pe> well gnight
[10:47] <extern> what IDE are you using for C++ development?
[10:47] <dhonn> rpaul, big electronics superstore
[10:47] <ubuntubes> just type mysql??
[10:47] <ubuntubes> cannot
[10:47] <ompaul> alsa, yes
[10:47] <ESPOiG> wen is the offical release of dapper
[10:47] <H080J03> if Q don't work try crtl c
[10:47] <rpaul> dhonn: in the US im guessing
[10:47] <Seveas> ESPOiG, soon
[10:47] <dhonn> rpaul, kill-a-watt measures the powerdraw from the wall of devices
[10:48] <ESPOiG> Seveas: any idea how soon?
[10:48] <Seveas> ESPOiG, very soon 
[10:48] <ompaul> ESPOiG, that would spoil the fun
[10:48] <zjimbo> Brilliant scheuri! iv had root logged in all day just stuck on the manual
[10:48] <ESPOiG> Seveas: lol... :|
[10:48] <joshhendo> 
[10:48] <rpaul> dhonn: yeah i found it on google, i want to get one of them so i can find out where all my power goes
[10:48] <guillem101> Hmm, 6.06 is at ubuntuforums marked as release. Is it save to upgrade right now or is it advisable to wait until "official release"?
[10:48] <La_PaRCa> Seveas, you are my new hero. You deserve a medal or something, you ver very very patient man.
[10:48] <dhonn> rpaul, in sandiego/ca our energy cost is about 13 cents per kW.  My bill is $39
[10:48] <ubuntubes> after install mysql, then how to access it??
[10:48] <H080J03> hmm so how do you get an h264 movie to play?
[10:49] <BadriNarayan> ubuntubes: Did you install *mysql-server* ?
[10:49] <ompaul> zjimbo, you don't need that you could have used sudo but it would be better not to do it at all ;-)
[10:49] <ubuntubes> BadriNarayan yes I did
[10:49] <philipacamaniac> guillem101: You can upgrade. the "official" release is for the iso's and torrents.
[10:49] <ubuntubes> BadriNarayan but how to access it
[10:49] <Auckland_Pig> just 34 more users for 1000 :)
[10:49] <eobanb> dhonn, i think you mean kWh
[10:49] <BadriNarayan> ubuntubes: try mysql -u root -p
[10:49] <dhonn> eobanb, yea
[10:49] <kevor> Wow, cewl that Java is now available via aptitude :)
[10:49] <Auckland_Pig> ubotu get some of your bot friends in here
[10:49] <ubotu> Auckland_Pig: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:50] <onkarshinde> /msh chanserv list #ubuntu*
[10:50] <ubuntubes> BadriNarayan : what -u n -p for?
[10:50] <apokryphos> Auckland_Pig: he's already with Ubugtu and ubuntulog
[10:50] <guillem101> philipacamaniac, so... via synaptic (changing everything from breezy to dapper) I will get the actual "official" release?
[10:50] <Seveas> and EdgyEft
[10:50] <Edward_TLS> ubuntubes, username and password
[10:50] <BadriNarayan> ubuntubes -u for username
[10:50] <zjimbo> Im using Suse 10.1 so no sudo!... I think. = |
[10:50] <BadriNarayan> ubuntube: -p for prompting for password, see man page
[10:51] <Auckland_Pig> what is Ubugtu ?
[10:51] <ubuntubes> BadriNarayan Edward_TLS so do I have to type: mysql userxxx root passxxx
[10:51] <JoseStefan> !ubugtu
[10:51] <ubotu> ubugtu is shown here with his brothers http://www.allscifi.com/aridor/index.asp?Autonumber=465
[10:51] <Ubugtu> Auckland_Pig me 
[10:51] <Auckland_Pig> :)
[10:51] <BadriNarayan> ubuntubes: what happens when you just say "mysql"?
[10:52] <rpaul> dhonn: I pay NZD $0.21 per kWh .... not sure how that compares.
[10:52] <Xore> there needs to be a ubuntunes player
[10:52] <Xore> to compete with itunes, or something
[10:52] <Seveas> I just heard: Ubuntu will be released when we hit 1000 users
[10:52] <cute_bettong> holy crap theres almost a thousand people in here O_O
[10:52] <apokryphos> hehe
[10:52] <cute_bettong> 968 users
[10:52] <ubuntubes> BadriNarayan : ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[10:52] <Xore> (enter 30 clones)
[10:52] <cute_bettong> sweet XD
[10:52] <JoseStefan> can i bring clones?
[10:53] <philipacamaniac> Xore: I believe it is called rhythmbox...
[10:53] <ompaul> Seveas, that would be a poor target
[10:53] <Fillado> xore: banshee/amarok
[10:53] <BadriNarayan> ubuntubes: Now, just try "mysql -u root -p"
[10:53] <Ng> Seveas: no ponies?! how mean! ;)
[10:53] <K|NgGh0sT> Please someone... I'm trying to follow, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623 basically trying to get WPA to work... and I'm getting an error... http://pastebin.ca/60546
[10:53] <guillem101> zjimbo, AFAIK, there is sudo at SuSE
[10:53] <ivoks> so, everyone is excited? :)
[10:53] <Seveas> Ng, ponies when we hit 1500 
[10:53] <Ng> hehe
[10:53] <apokryphos> guillem101: almost every distro has suse, just not every one has it used by default
[10:53] <Fillado> Half-Life 2: Episode 1 also comes out today = good day
[10:53] <kevor> hey, i want a Pony
[10:53] <apokryphos> *has sudo
[10:53] <Celestar> does ubuntu run on Sparc?
[10:53] <Prx> Creating chroot tree in /var/www/chroot
[10:53] <flowolf> that's really bad
[10:53] <Burgundavia> Celestar: yes
[10:53] <Prx> mknod: `dev/null': Operation not permitted
[10:54] <guillem101> apokryphos, s/suse/sudo
[10:54] <Prx> dpkg: error processing dtc (--configure):
[10:54] <flowolf> 2 bugs found on the new ubuntu dapper when installing
[10:54] <apokryphos> guillem101: yes
[10:54] <Prx> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:54] <Flannel> Seveas: so, I should fire up irssi on tons of screened terminals? ;)
[10:54] <philipacamaniac> J/K
[10:54] <EricNeon> how many chinese at here  now ?
[10:54] <ivoks> Celestar: new version, yes
[10:54] <Prx> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:54] <ubuntubes> BadriNarayan : I forget about my password
[10:54] <asdx> what this error means - No video BIOS modes to choose from
[10:54] <flowolf> should I report them?
[10:54] <Xore> if we buy Seveas hookers and blow, will he release dapper earlier?
[10:54] <apokryphos> flowolf: wat were they?
[10:54] <Prx> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:54] <Celestar> which new version?
[10:54] <WillyTP> hi
[10:54] <guillem101> apokryphos, but visudo will do the trick
[10:54] <alsa> ompaul do u know how to copy a file from an ssh session to localhost?
[10:54] <Prx> what is problem?
[10:54] <kevor> $ mv /usr/feelings/hangover /dev/null
[10:54] <Xore> anyone want to contribute to my "get Seveas hookers and blow" fund?
[10:54] <apokryphos> guillem101: it will, yes.
[10:54] <Seveas> Xore, I don't release dapper 
[10:54] <H080J03> how do you play a .mov file in ubuntu??
[10:54] <BadriNarayan> ubuntubes: If you did not set a password, just press return
[10:54] <Seveas> (nor do I need hookers)
[10:54] <orbin> flowolf: report the chinese? :-/
[10:54] <Xore> =(
[10:54] <Celestar> ivoks: what version would that be?
[10:54] <flowolf> apokryphos: 1) resolution setted at 640x480, unchangable
[10:54] <eXistenZ> what's going on with ubuntu, we need dapper!
[10:54] <kevor> lol
[10:54] <ivoks> Seveas: lots of traffice in here :)
[10:54] <Fillado> H080J03:VLC ?
[10:55] <Big_T> hello ubuntu users! :)
[10:55] <kevor> let's all call Seveas
[10:55] <Seveas> ivoks, yeah, it's crazy
[10:55] <onkarshinde> H080J03: Try VLC or mplayer
[10:55] <apokryphos> flowolf: /msg ubotu resolution
[10:55] <flowolf> apokryphos: 2) ubuntu installer crashes at the end
[10:55] <H080J03> Filldao it is h264
[10:55] <ivoks> Celestar: the one that is going to be released today - 6.06
[10:55] <Celestar> ivoks: 5.10 or later?
[10:55] <PHiSQuaRE> ahlo folks
[10:55] <BadriNarayan> ubuntubes: The default password is empty, not your login password
[10:55] <ubuntubes> BadriNarayan : I did set, but forgotten
[10:55] <Celestar> ivoks: cool, released when? ;)
[10:55] <ivoks> Seveas: and people just coming in :)
[10:55] <apokryphos> flowolf: you should report 2), and possibly 1), though there is an easy workaround
[10:55] <ivoks> Celestar: will be today
[10:55] <H080J03> fillado it is h264
[10:55] <Celestar> ivoks: so I'll wait till then, :)
[10:55] <Fillado> um...
[10:55] <Seveas> Celestar, it'll be released when the channel hits 1000 users
[10:55] <Big_T>  i'm waiting for dapper since midnight.. :D
[10:56] <matt_> scheuri: I got your message and it worked, do you know a way to recover a file that i have just deleted?
[10:56] <Celestar> Seveas: :P
[10:56] <waltman_> omg
[10:56] <kevor> official release is today? :D:D:D:D
[10:56] <JoseStefan> 22 people to go
[10:56] <kevor> sweet!
[10:56] <philipacamaniac> Seveas: that's in about 10 minutes
[10:56] <waltman_> i'm waiting dapper already :DD
[10:56] <Celestar> meep
[10:56] <H080J03> fillado i have installed the multimedia codecs in automax and easyubuntu
[10:56] <khermans> matt_, immediatle shut down your pc
[10:56] <Celestar> wrong window
[10:56] <bvanaerde> dapper was cancelled
[10:56] <flowolf> apokryphos: I'm a gentoo user so I know how to fix the resolution
[10:56] <OmniD> 22? 21.
[10:56] <Seveas> H080J03, automatix is a virus
[10:56] <H080J03> and it still won't play
[10:56] <OmniD> 20.
[10:56] <VirtualDarKness> if we get 2000 users can we have a pony?
[10:56] <flowolf> but that's bad as I was going to give ubuntu to some friends
[10:56] <Fillado> yeah VLC can play a 1080p .mov
[10:56] <apokryphos> flowolf: but gentoo users wouldn't know there's a dpkg-reconfigure for it :)
[10:56] <Seveas> VirtualDarKness, 1500
[10:56] <scheuri> matt_: I am afraid that is not possible...linux does not know that kind of recovery...KDE/Gnome has a bin...but console is mercyless
[10:56] <Fillado> in Windows at least
[10:56] <Celestar> ivoks: is it recommended to be used on a production system?
[10:56] <VirtualDarKness> Seveas, ;)
[10:57] <OffHand> automatix is a virus  =  LMAO
[10:57] <khermans> matt_, and then hex dump your drive contents if it is that important
[10:57] <morgs> VirtualDarKness: Ponies will be provided at a later date through dapper-updates
[10:57] <ivoks> Celestar: it's based on debian and has commercial support, even sun likes it... i don't see how much better support you can get :)
[10:57] <khermans> Seveas, Automatix users should try EasyUbuntu instead
[10:57] <JoseStefan> he just haves to set +l to 1499 :(
[10:57] <Fillado> you get that H080J03?
[10:57] <Seveas> morgs, dapper-ponies
[10:57] <ompaul> alsa, there are two ways to do that sftp which works like ftp and scp which is secure copy http://www.openssh.com/faq.html is fairly useful
[10:57] <H080J03> yea but the file i have is a Advanced Video Coding (H264)
[10:57] <Celestar> ivoks: good, because I still can't set up any friendship with solaris 10
[10:57] <Fillado> yeah so's this one
[10:57] <K|NgGh0sT> le sigh
[10:57] <Ed_L> I would so love to see a netsplit in this channel
[10:57] <K|NgGh0sT> this channel used to be used for support
[10:57] <Fillado> like i said it's a 1080p .mov
[10:57] <matt_> khermans:  sounds longwinded, guess i will have to get the backups out, arse
[10:57] <OmniD> Maybe they are waiting for there to be 1000 people in here guys
[10:57] <ompaul> khermans, there is no try there is only do
[10:58] <Burgundavia> K|NgGh0sT: it will be tomorrow again
[10:58] <OmniD> did you think of that didja
[10:58] <ivoks> Celestar: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/sunfire
[10:58] <H080J03> hm
[10:58] <JoseStefan> 16 to go
[10:58] <Xore> Ed_L: that's a scary thought
[10:58] <K|NgGh0sT> Burgundavia: doesnt help when I'm having issues now :(
[10:58] <Ed_L> hehe
[10:58] <H080J03> so is there anyway to play it?
[10:58] <Celeste> hi
[10:58] <Burgundavia> K|NgGh0sT: we are moments away from release of 6.06
[10:58] <Fillado> VLC Media player
[10:58] <H080J03> hmm
[10:58] <khermans> Solaris 10 has jails, which are pretty cool
[10:58] <H080J03> k
[10:58] <khermans> Burgundavia, moments?
[10:58] <Big_T> bye
[10:58] <foobar54> khermans: you mean zones? jails is more BDSish
[10:58] <ivoks> hehehe
[10:58] <ivoks> countdown
[10:59] <khermans> foobar54, yeah zones
[10:59] <Burgundavia> khermans: yes, moments. Sometimes those are long moments
[10:59] <Prx> Creating chroot tree in /var/www/chroot  ----mknod: `dev/null': Operation not permitted------dpkg: error processing dtc (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1: Errors were encountered while processing:dtc E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:59] <Prx> what is problem?
[10:59] <Ed_L> so how long?
[10:59] <khermans> its out baby!
[10:59] <DarkTower> yeh zones are slightly different than jails
[10:59] <apokryphos> Ed_L: how long is a piece of string? :)
[10:59] <khermans> i have confirmed
[10:59] <H080J03> i love how easy it is to install stuff in ubuntu
[10:59] <apokryphos> Soon
[10:59] <khermans> Got my SMS message!!!
[10:59] <philipacamaniac> It's released - http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[11:00] <khermans>  MY SMS SCRIPT WORKED!!!
[11:00] <CactusWiZaRd> OMG!
[11:00] <JoseStefan> it is!
[11:00] <Ed_L> !!!!!
[11:00] <ubotu> Ed_L: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:00] <khermans> its leeching now!
[11:00] <rob> umm you don't have to wait until Ubuntu is released to use it :)
[11:00] <DarkTower> sweeet
[11:00] <VirtualDarKness> but we are not at 1000 :'(
[11:00] <Ed_L> heh, too late :P
[11:00] <JoseStefan> haha, i have it
[11:00] <JoseStefan> same as daily
[11:00] <K|NgGh0sT> Couldnt you just apt-get dist-upgrade? once drapper is in sources.list?
[11:00] <PHiSQuaRE> don't hammer
[11:00] <DarkTower> nobody dowenload until we have 1000 lol
[11:00] <khermans> JoseStefan, got my gigabit downloading already on torrent
[11:00] <Xore> rob: everyone wants to jump on the official torrent
[11:00] <fabbione> no it's not released!
[11:00] <JoseStefan> i can seed ed2k if you like
[11:00] <fabbione> we are still upgrading the mirrors
[11:00] <EricNeon> I think the core team just writing news now
[11:00] <rob> Xore, nice
[11:00] <khermans> fabbione, YES IT IS
[11:00] <DarkTower> fabbione: what?
[11:00] <apokryphos> K|NgGh0sT: yes of course
[11:00] <fabbione> khermans: no it's not
[11:00] <fabbione> DarkTower: dapper
[11:00] <VirtualDarKness> happy dapper guys and thanks to everybody who works on it!
[11:01] <Seveas> khermans, NO IT IS NOT
[11:01] <K|NgGh0sT> then what the hell
[11:01] <fabbione> we are still updating the mirrors
[11:01] <apokryphos> khermans: where do you see the announcement?
[11:01] <DarkTower> fabbione: yes it is
[11:01] <samu> so how will the upgrade work this time?
[11:01] <DarkTower> happy dapper
[11:01] <Lukketto> fabbione: dinitto?
[11:01] <fabbione> DarkTower: i am sitting in the frigging room with the release guys
[11:01] <Seveas> DarkTower, fabbione knows much better thab you
[11:01] <fabbione> DarkTower: i know much better than you.. it's not
[11:01] <khermans> Seveas, torrent is there!
[11:01] <ompaul> Seveas, mute the channel -
[11:01] <fabbione> Lukketto: yes
[11:01] <H080J03> yea vlc worked!!
[11:01] <Seveas> now relax everyone
[11:01] <Seveas> release will be SOON
[11:01] <Seveas> but NOT NOW
[11:02] <Seveas> and you can NOT HAVE A PONY
[11:02] <fabbione> the mirrors are still updating
[11:02] <apokryphos> :)
[11:02] <fabbione> if you start downloading now there are big chances that torrents will not be working with the correct image
[11:02] <fabbione> please wait for the official announcment
[11:02] <fabbione> it's just a matter of few minutes
[11:02] <apokryphos> and you will know in here before others
[11:03] <ajmitch_> Seveas: aw, let us have a pony, please
[11:04] <Seveas> Now behave
[11:04] <Jeeves_> Hmm?
[11:04] <ompaul> ajmitch_, there are no ponies Bill said so! just like he said there would be no spam in 2006 so you can have one soon ;-)
[11:04] <bvanaerde> lol
[11:04] <tarzeau> where's the pony?
[11:04] <K|NgGh0sT> I doubt there is any differnce between RC and this
[11:04] <apokryphos> K|NgGh0sT: well, there is.
[11:04] <ivoks> K|NgGh0sT: there is
[11:04] <bvanaerde> pony? http://last.fm
[11:04] <CactusWiZaRd> :D
[11:04] <Seveas> K|NgGh0sT, there is
[11:04] <ompaul> there is no this
[11:04] <khermans> we need 18 more people in here
[11:04] <apokryphos> but yes, bugfixes
[11:05] <Linuturk> there is?
[11:05] <La_PaRCa> Why are you all goiing nuts over the ponies?
[11:05] <bvanaerde> lol
[11:05] <Linuturk> release notes?
[11:05] <Ed_L> *15
[11:05] <JoseStefan> the daily's of the 31st and the final match, please chech your MD5SUMS if you had the daily iso
[11:05] <philipacamaniac> does my cat count? I'll put her on my laptop.
[11:05] <K|NgGh0sT> La_PaRCa: they are obsessed with beastiality?
[11:05] <GazzaK> La_PaRCa: 'cos they are cute
[11:05] <CactusWiZaRd> where do we need more ppl?
[11:05] <Kr0ntab> 985 people
[11:05] <ompaul> La_PaRCa, it is all your fault
[11:05] <tiagoboldt> i'm already downloading http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[11:05] <tiagoboldt> :|
[11:05] <snowblink> Does the 1000th person win the pony?
[11:05] <tarzeau> tiagoboldt: it's released now?
[11:05] <EricNeon> 
[11:05] <ompaul> hehe
[11:05] <fermi> EricNeon: Huh, are you serious...?
[11:05] <Linuturk> you shouldn't download yet
[11:05] <Burgundavia> tarzeau: no, not quite yet
[11:06] <Linuturk> the IRC gods say so
[11:06] <La_PaRCa> ompaul, can you please cite your sources as to bill saying there are no ponies?
[11:06] <bvanaerde> please make it stop...
[11:06] <tarzeau> Burgundavia: but he is downloading it!
[11:06] <EricNeon> fermi: ?
[11:06] <EricNeon> lol
[11:06] <tarzeau> tiagoboldt: it's broken!
[11:06] <tiagoboldt> it is?
[11:06] <khermans> tiagoboldt, thats the old one dude
[11:06] <fermi> EricNeon: It seems that it's ok to talk anything you want here...
[11:06] <tarzeau> tiagoboldt: you download goatse
[11:06] <Josh43> La_PaRCa: I dunno if anyone said /no/ ponies; justy you cant have one
[11:06] <tiagoboldt> it's already @80MB
[11:06] <CactusWiZaRd> :D
[11:06] <flowolf> can I install grub on a xfs partition?
[11:06] <tiagoboldt> and climbing
[11:06] <fermi> EricNeon: right in this channel
[11:06] <ompaul> La_PaRCa, check out the 100 dollar laptop thing can't remember where I might have seen it on the fridge
[11:06] <tarzeau> tiagoboldt: waste of bandwith and time!
[11:06] <pholie> dualhead people, be prepared for broken X, the bug is not fixed :-D
[11:06] <tarzeau> tiagoboldt: can you read the /topic ?
[11:06] <Linuturk> I'll give you a pony . . . after you pay for it
[11:06] <flowolf> should I create a /boot partition for that?
[11:07] <tiagoboldt> no it's not the old one, it hasn't the RC
[11:07] <Auckland_Pig> 986..... just 14 more users to make it 1000
[11:07] <ivoks> relax... few more minutes... grab a coffe :)
[11:07] <tarzeau> tiagoboldt: checked the md5 sums?
[11:07] <CactusWiZaRd> how can i install the dapper when it's released?
[11:07] <tiagoboldt> if it is the old one, it has been renamed:P
[11:07] <PPower> 985 nicks
[11:07] <Josh43> 986
[11:07] <Lukketto> Cactus: download the iso ;)
[11:07] <tarzeau> PPower: do you remember the billenniumparty?
[11:07] <Linuturk> yeah, 985 nicks, but scan for duplicates
[11:07] <VirtualDarKness> I hope the release after edgy would be called "pony"
[11:07] <PPower> no
[11:07] <EricNeon> go girls and boys
[11:07] <tarzeau> VirtualDarKness: haha :)
[11:07] <VirtualDarKness> (would -> will :p)
[11:07] <philipacamaniac> I really need to go to bed (2:07am local time), but I just can't miss the 1000 mark, that's almost more cool than the release, LOL
[11:08] <Flannel> VirtualDarKness: nope, it'd have to be quite a few after, theyre alphabetical now.
[11:08] <dhonn> read the dates http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ they're yesterdays release heh
[11:08] <OffHand> someone call their irc bots
[11:08] <fabbione> torrents are still down
[11:08] <fabbione> we are working on the issue
[11:08] <fabbione> so please don't flood with requestes
[11:08] <fabbione> thanks
[11:08] <JoseStefan> i will have ED2K's in a few minutes
[11:08] <joshhendo> :)
[11:08] <mdz> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/
[11:08] <CactusWiZaRd> Lukketto: not interested, because i don't want to clean my computer... again
[11:09] <JoseStefan> i'm running checksums on the files making sure they are right
[11:09] <VirtualDarKness> Flannel, enchanted pony should fit alphabetical order ;)
[11:09] <Celestar> ivoks: nevertheless, it seems I have to get used to ubuntu :)
[11:09] <Flannel> VirtualDarKness: only if  pony starts with an e.
[11:09] <BadriNarayan> 12 more to go for 1000
[11:09] <BadriNarayan> ;)
[11:09] <Josh43> e-phoney?
[11:09] <ivoks> Celestar: it's the best OS there is :)
[11:09] <guzu> hello all
[11:09] <Patrick1> hi
[11:09] <Krpano> 994
[11:10] <BadriNarayan> 6 more!!
[11:10] <sizza> 6 more
[11:10] <sizza> lol
[11:10] <khermans> Ubuntu Pretty Pony (7.04)
[11:10] <tarzeau> 6 OMG
[11:10] <fermi> BadriNarayan: LOL
[11:10] <Auckland_Pig> woo hooo
[11:10] <EricNeon> wow, 994!
[11:10] <Celestar> ivoks: dunno I'm not using it yet. All SuSE and FreeBSD here
[11:10] <Auckland_Pig> come on 6 more
[11:10] <Auckland_Pig> 5 more
[11:10] <Fillado> :D
[11:10] <ProfFrink> Aegir_: Welcome to the nuthouse
[11:10] <La_PaRCa> Ubuntu Prancing Pony (7.04)
[11:10] <tarzeau> khermans: you mean 04.11 ?
[11:10] <Linuturk> call your friends
[11:10] <Auckland_Pig> 4 more
[11:10] <luis> too many people!!1
[11:10] <orbin> 3
[11:10] <Auckland_Pig> 3 more :D
[11:10] <Krpano> almost there
[11:10] <Aegir_> ProfFrink: Aye, noticed madness
[11:10] <Ed_L> 4
[11:10] <tarzeau> khermans: because now they don't need to release for 5 years
[11:10] <rixxon> Pimped Pony
[11:10] <EricNeon> 4
[11:10] <Linuturk> omg, i'm going to cream my pants
[11:10] <PPower> 5
[11:10] <fermi> 
[11:10] <Ed_L> 5 :(
[11:10] <Aegir_> Party time?
[11:10] <VirtualDarKness> there will be a *pony* release, 4 sure ;)
[11:10] <ProfFrink> Nah, 7.04 is the Funky Ferret
[11:10] <Seveas> sigh...
[11:11] <apokryphos> 1000!
[11:11] <Seveas> ok, so I lied
[11:12] <Seveas> it won't be released when we hit 1000
[11:12] <rob> heh
[11:12] <Seveas> it will be released once mdz hits the big button
[11:12] <Seveas> which should be soon
[11:13] <Linuturk> evil Seveas
[11:13] <Auckland_Pig> nice
[11:13] <cute_bettong> ok
[11:14] <Linuturk> :-P
[11:14] <PPower> Seveas: Why are all my posts getting 404ed
[11:14] <cute_bettong> that was odd
[11:14] <mikey> can anyone tell my why there will be Long Term Support on 6.06?
[11:14] <rixxon> i wonder is this the biggest channel on freenode, currently?
[11:14] <cute_bettong> it woulden't let me send to the channel
[11:14] <tiagoboldt> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[11:14] <ProfFrink> Seveas: Thanks for bringing a moment of sanity to the channel :D
[11:14] <tarzeau> rixxon: try /list -yes
[11:14] <Auckland_Pig> woo hooo.....
[11:14] <apokryphos> mikey: because ubuntu does long-term releases
[11:14] <rob> rixxon, I think so
[11:14] <cute_bettong> something in here glitched
[11:14] <tiagoboldt> it doens't says nothing about RC
[11:14] <frenkel> Seveas: soon as in minutes, or soon as in hours?
[11:14] <tiagoboldt> isn't it really the final?
[11:14] <cute_bettong> i think it's becasue ubuntu pwns XD
[11:14] <Seveas> frenkel, minutes
[11:14] <frenkel> nice :)
[11:14] <Aegir_> ohmahgoshohmagoshohmagosh *head explodes*
[11:14] <Linuturk> who is mzk or such?
[11:14] <Aegir_> *composes self*
[11:15] <cute_bettong> make something extrodanary and people will use it ^_^
[11:15] <mikey> apokryphos, on my shipped it cd, it says there is a new release every 6 months with updates and support for a year
[11:15] <VirtualDarKness> soon means as fast as a pony is ;)
[11:15] <cfraz89> wow it's like new-years eve here
[11:15] <neoXite> so
[11:15] <Fillado> :D
[11:15] <cute_bettong> XD
[11:15] <Xore> anyone remember #1111111111 ?
[11:15] <philipacamaniac> the question is, who will update the Wikipedia article first? And who will get the approved submission to Slashdot?
[11:15] <fermi> why I am banned to talk?
[11:15] <Lukketto> mikey: the dapper is a LTS
[11:15] <apokryphos> mikey: support is normally for 18 months actually
[11:15] <tarzeau> Xore: sure
[11:15] <tarzeau> Xore: i got the logs!
[11:15] <khermans> Fruity Fly (7.04) ?
[11:15] <lmanul> Linuturk: mdz is Matt Zimmerman
[11:15] <neoXite> the server cd and alternate install cd both use the debian installer and the desktop one uses its own?
[11:15] <Bilford> Friendly Ferret
[11:15] <selinium> Seveas. can you send out a /msg to everyone when it is out there? :)
[11:15] <Josh43> philipacamaniac: and ding/boingboing
[11:15] <Lukketto> LTS = Long Term Support
[11:15] <ProfFrink> Bilford: *Funky* Ferret!
[11:15] <Lukketto> 3 years
[11:15] <mikey> hrmm
[11:15] <Seveas> selinium, it is out there, the announcement just has to be sent
[11:16] <sladen> selinium: there's  /topic  for that
[11:16] <mikey> still odd.
[11:16] <Bilford> ProfFrink, maybe, but Ubuntu's goal is to become even more user friendly
[11:16] <Linuturk> Ubuntu 1004  Gentoo 938
[11:16] <philipacamaniac> Josh43: by ding, you mean digg?
[11:16] <Linuturk> two highest user counts on freenode
[11:16] <khermans> Flagrant Foul (7.04)
[11:16] <Lukketto> Linuturk :  YESSSSSSSSSSS
[11:16] <Josh43> philipacamaniac: indeed :)
[11:16] <morgs> Linuturk: invite them over ;-)
[11:16] <K|NgGh0sT> Userfriendly is overrated IMHO
[11:16] <mikey> oh another thing!  will the stock kernel version be compiled with the same one available in the repository?
[11:16] <Ed_L> Pretty Pony
[11:16] <mikey> cause that annoys me
[11:16] <Josh43> K|NgGh0sT: Install rock linux, then
[11:16] <zjimbo> tiagoboldt - is that the real, official release? I don't see RC anywhere. Could it be?
[11:17] <Linuturk> i tried to list the channels eariler and I got this:
[11:17] <Linuturk> Listing channels
[11:17] <Linuturk> -
[11:17] <Linuturk> Server load is temporarily too heavy. Please wait a while and try again.
[11:17] <Linuturk> -
[11:17] <Linuturk> End of /List
[11:17] <Linuturk> the power of Ubuntu
[11:17] <La_PaRCa> Are we ok to download the torrent now then?
[11:17] <tiagoboldt> zjimbo think so...
[11:17] <Auckland_Pig> the best way to get Windoze users is to first hook them to Firefox, Gaim, VLC and then present them with dapper cd....
[11:17] <Burgundavia> Linuturk: don't paste in here
[11:17] <ivoks> YAY!!!!
[11:17] <Josh43> Ed_L: That's too girly.. something like Prancing Pony
[11:17] <stylus> That's common Linuturk. Just give it a minute.
[11:17] <K|NgGh0sT> Josh43: linuxfromscratch ftw :D
[11:17] <dholbach> WOOHOO
[11:17] <BadriNarayan> Happy Dapper Drake everyone! The release is official now, at last...
[11:17] <bvanaerde> it is?
[11:17] <Flannel> Auckland_Pig: so, give them one of those google CDs? then a Dapper one?
[11:17] <DarkTower> woot
[11:17] <Linuturk> no link in topic?
[11:17] <OmniD> Oh really?
[11:18] <paradon> Is torrent up?
[11:18] <PPower> Aukland_Pig: You should see the anti ie section at toastytech.com
[11:18] <pseudodeadkitty> Show me the link!!
[11:18] <bvanaerde> :D
[11:18] <ivoks> it's out!!!!!
[11:18] <Josh43> K|NgGh0sT: That's for newbies :P
[11:18] <BadriNarayan> A big hug to all the devs
[11:18] <stylus> Happy release all. :-)
[11:18] <Seveas> K|NgGh0sT, you're not supposed to 
[11:18] <dbglt> does this change anything for me (who is already running dapper)? :P
[11:18] <tiagoboldt> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso <- i'm 75%
[11:18] <selinium> WOO HOO   \o/ \0/ \o/   WOO HOO !!!!
[11:18] <mikey> i love you all!
[11:18] <tarzeau> http://www.brigid.clickryder.com/photo2.html POOOOONIES
[11:18] <Fillado> nothing on http://www.ubuntu.com/ yet :|
[11:18] <nomis_> :)
[11:18] <Krpano> Hooray for the Devs !!!
[11:18] <khermans> Farty Flamingo?
[11:18] <Skiddles^> I hate you all :P
[11:18] <khermans> HOORAY!!!
[11:18] <lightstar> WOOHOOO
[11:18] <Linuturk> need a url
[11:18] <K|NgGh0sT> Seveas: why not?
[11:18] <Linuturk> please
[11:18] <CN_EricNeon> let me see how many pepole from China, please all of  Chinese add "CN" before your name
[11:18] <tarzeau> Linuturk: there! there! http://www.prettypony.com/
[11:19] <Linuturk> har
[11:19] <Auckland_Pig> Seveas: is it out?
[11:19] <BadriNarayan> Now, see the numbers in the channel drop.. ;)
[11:19] <Kr0ntab> hehehe
[11:19] <Linuturk> he's toying with our emotions
[11:19] <Kr0ntab> awesome.  well time for bed
[11:19] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[11:19] <Guardian> hello
[11:19] <ReMink> Hello all !
[11:19] <apokryphos> dapper is out!!
[11:19] <La_PaRCa> Mad props for the devs, and the docs, and the trans and the bugs and so on and so forth
[11:19] <Auckland_Pig> is dapper out?
[11:19] <Kr0ntab> word!
[11:19] <PPower> still not out here.
[11:19] <apokryphos> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[11:19] <Krpano> yes
[11:19] <ReMink> I search a Dapper's changelog, someone has it ?
[11:19] <Soir> mad props to the bugs? aren't we meant to be hunting those down?
[11:19] <tarzeau> !LTS
[11:20] <ubotu> I guess lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[11:20] <PPower> all isos here are 31st
[11:20] <tarzeau> what is the name of the next release?
[11:20] <Unenvarjo> yay
[11:20] <apokryphos> tarzeau: Edgy Eft
[11:20] <PPower> edgy eft
[11:20] <ubuntubes> help! how to remove directory and it contents
[11:20] <dooglus> tarzeau: The Edgy eft
[11:20] <ompaul> mdz, dvds?
[11:20] <JoseStefan> they are the same as the daily's from the 31st
[11:20] <K|NgGh0sT> Seveas: why not?
[11:20] <tarzeau> !EFT
[11:20] <ubotu> eft is, like, totally, a newt in its terrestrial stage of development - the release after Dapper will be called Edgy Eft.  For information and pictures of efts/newts, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt
[11:20] <dooglus> ubuntubes: rm -r <dir>
[11:20] <Flannel> Seveas, er, think the listing on the archives could be made so one can read the full name of the file? ;)
[11:20] <pseudodeadkitty> Wooot! Looks like it's officially party time. :)
[11:20] <tarzeau> what's a dapper? and edgy?
[11:20] <PPower> !dapper
[11:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' will be released in less than 18 hours, but not at 0:00 UTC! (NO, we cannot be more precise)
[11:20] <chrisbudden14> is anyone having a problem with the dapper i386 desktop CD torrent
[11:21] <PPower> !edgy
[11:21] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html
[11:21] <guzu> wsx
[11:21] <BadriNarayan> poor ubotu
[11:21] <akaihola> chrisbudden14: yes, connection refused
[11:21] <guzu> wsxedc
[11:21] <ubuntubes> dooglus thanks
[11:21] <chrisbudden14> thanks akaihola
[11:21] <guzu> hm
[11:21] <PPower> tarzeau: i hope that answers your question
[11:21] <Spaceraver> gah... so The LST beta cd is about the same disc or what??
[11:21] <JoseStefan> i will have ed2k links in a few seconds, for those interested
[11:21] <tarzeau> PPower: dict answered
[11:21] <chrisbudden14> shame, i wanted to do my bit
[11:21] <Seveas> !no dapper is <reply> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[11:21] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[11:21] <spacey> http://www.edubuntu.org/news/5
[11:21] <ompaul> !dapper
[11:21] <ubotu> dapper is released and called 6.06
[11:21] <Lynoure> ubuntubes: But be very careful... deleting from console does not put things in trash bin
[11:22] <Linuturk> ummmm, no seeds on the torrent
[11:22] <Linuturk> o bother
[11:22] <PPower> still not here at the server
[11:22] <PPower> still got dalies
[11:22] <ubuntubes> Lynoure : then how to completely remove ?
[11:22] <ompaul> Linuturk, they have to hit the servers first
[11:22] <mdz> Spaceraver: about the same, but with about a month's fewer bug fixes ;-)
[11:22] <Astinus-> was the forum dapper announcement the same isos as the final?
[11:22] <ThE-LiGhT> !dapper
[11:22] <ubotu> dapper is released and called 6.06
[11:22] <Balachmar> I have a question about the alacarte menu editor. The programming menu doesn't show up (and in the ditor it is in Italic) How do I make it show up?
[11:22] <tgb> is there a problem with the BT tracker? I keep getting rejected...
[11:22] <tiagoboldt> i've told u that that was the final version..
[11:22] <frenkel> Linuturk: i'm willing to seed, but my client can't connect tot he tracker
[11:22] <khermans> There is no MD5SUM for the Sparch build !!?!?!
[11:22] <guzu> ok, what's the different contetn of server cd and desktop cd?
[11:22] <philipacamaniac> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_Officially_Released
[11:22] <Lynoure> ubuntubes: That command _does_ completely remove.
[11:22] <guzu> on 606
[11:22] <Spaceraver> so that means i dont do a dist upgrade then... just upgrade as normal...
[11:22] <ThE-LiGhT> YEAHHHH BABY YEAHHH
[11:22] <khermans> oh no SPARC build at all
[11:22] <Seveas> khermans, sparc build will be released later
[11:22] <akaihola> rgp: yes, torrent says connection refused
[11:23] <Linuturk> heh, and the internet crashes
[11:23] <Fillado> same here for torrent too
[11:23] <PPower> getting out adept updater
[11:23] <chrisbudden14> [dugg] 
[11:23] <Linuturk> Connection Error here as well
[11:23] <netgrabber> hi ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.jigdo is missing :(
[11:23] <lightstar> same here for torrent
[11:23] <JoseStefan> dalies and final match, re-check your MD5SUMS
[11:23] <khermans> can't connect
[11:23] <Fillado> still connected to a load of azureus randomers through DHT at 0% :D
[11:23] <stylus> Is the server cd just the basic install cd?
[11:23] <Flannel> stylus: no, the alternate CD is.
[11:23] <Linuturk> azureus for the win
[11:23] <chrisbudden14> yes stylus
[11:23] <MonsieurBon> !dapper
[11:23] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[11:24] <Spaceraver> easy... like  a million people are trying to get that file... patience young padawan...
[11:24] <derfbugzi> omgz its still not here noes
[11:24] <Lynoure> ubuntubes: But not in a way that could could pass your harddisk to feds and be sure that they cannot dig stuff out, that kind of complete removing is more work intensive/takes tools
[11:24] <Flannel> chrisbudden14: no, now server is tuned for server installs.
[11:24] <CN_EricNeon> Seveas: then if Dapper will release when we hit 1100 ?
[11:24] <chrisbudden14> oh i see thanks Flannel
[11:24] <Aegir_> =] :D\-<
[11:24] <khermans> Tracker must be swamped or something
[11:24] <mind> hello, sorry for the huge copy paste earlier Seveas, it won't happen again
[11:24] <Astinus-> hmmm, what exactly is the root password for server?
[11:24] <rob> CN_EricNeon, sure!
[11:24] <MonsieurBon> are there any mirrors where I can get Dapper a bit faster then with 30kb/s?
[11:24] <ompaul> CN_EricNeon, its out
[11:24] <Flannel> so, we've gotta have a torrent for the .torrent file, right?
[11:24] <pseudodeadkitty> Tracker is probably freaking at the # of connections it just got hit with.
[11:24] <PPower> NOOO! Apt crashed!
[11:24] <OmniD> ouch 2 hour download
[11:24] <Celestar> release release release
[11:24] <Godfather-Off> ompaul, announce?
[11:24] <lmanul> Astinus-: sudo passwd to set it
[11:24] <linuxboy> what mirror has dapper? i want to upgrade to stable
[11:24] <ompaul> Godfather-Off, reat the topic
[11:25] <cfraz89> wow this is crazy hahaha
[11:25] <La_PaRCa> haha
[11:25] <Lynoure> Why is it this minute urgent to get dapper? =)
[11:25] <ompaul> Godfather-Off, :-)
[11:25] <cfraz89> its so peaceful at #kubuntu
[11:25] <Celestar> ok where is that download?
[11:25] <neoXite> is the repo now final?
[11:25] <ompaul> hehe
[11:25] <La_PaRCa> not seeing any seeds yet. I guess its nice to be on the seeder team!
[11:25] <chrisbudden14> im getting ~300kb/s from http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[11:25] <tiagoboldt> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ <- official anounce :)
[11:25] <JoseStefan> can i post ed2k links here?
[11:25] <maswan> chrisbudden14: I got 10.40 MB/s from se.releases.ubuntu.com
[11:25] <kane77> how long does it take to upgrade to dapper??
[11:25] <mind> so i've followed the instructions i've received from the link about installing the nvidia drivers, everything went ok, i logged off and rebooted the PC (just to make sure).
[11:25] <Krpano> i already finished... :D
[11:25] <ubuntubes> Lynoure : so when ever I deleted files it still there? then it can junk my harddisk right ?
[11:25] <PPower> reboot time! try and unlock apt
[11:25] <apokryphos> tiagoboldt: technically the official announce is the one one news ubuntu page or the mailing list
[11:26] <neoXite> weeee!! release?
[11:26] <Linuturk> for those that finished the downloads, can you seed the iso?
[11:26] <Balachmar> How can I help spreading the iso's?
[11:26] <Celestar> damnit
[11:26] <frenkel> Linuturk: the tracker doesn't work
[11:26] <Celestar> there's no Sparc Release yet?
[11:26] <Fillado> get onto the torrent with azureus
[11:26] <Linuturk> use azureus
[11:26] <JoseStefan> i'm starting the ed2k seeds
[11:26] <Fillado> DHT will do the rest
[11:26] <frenkel> no, azureus sucks
[11:26] <pschulz01> Are there any torrents?
[11:26] <apokryphos> Balachmar: by leaving your torrent client on after the download
[11:26] <mikey> Balachmar, put the iso anywhere you can :P
[11:26] <philipacamaniac> Looks like http://www.ubuntu.com/download still needs updating
[11:26] <mind> just before the login screen the nvidia logo splash screen appeared, and everything went a-ok. but now, i cannot find the nvidia settings and i still can't modify the refresh rates. can anyone help ? thanks
[11:26] <frenkel> i already have downloaded it, but i'm going to seed the torrent
[11:26] <apokryphos> pschulz01: yes, check the announcements
[11:26] <kane77> Balachmar, try seeding it through bittorrent
[11:27] <mikey> Balachmar, give it to your neighbors so they can help seed
[11:27] <khermans> "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker" ???
[11:27] <CactusWiZaRd> can i upgrade ubuntu through apt-get?
[11:27] <apokryphos> CactusWiZaRd: yes
[11:27] <LivingTarget> yes
[11:27] <tgb> khermans: I get the same error. no idea why.
[11:27] <La_PaRCa> We need some seeders to get in the torrent
[11:27] <chrisbudden14> im getting that as well khermans
[11:27] <Lynoure> ubuntubes: Yes and no. Can you start over and tell me what is it that you want to achieve: free disk space, make files 'disappear' or make damn sure no one can ever never get to those files?
[11:27] <Linuturk> start mass producing cd's and overnight them to everyone
[11:27] <kane77> apokryphos, how long does the upgrade take??
[11:27] <chrisbudden14> lol Linuturk
[11:27] <Auckland_Pig> what is LTS?
[11:27] <CactusWiZaRd> apokryphos: with what upload?
[11:27] <khermans> La_PaRCa, I have a gigabit network -- but torrents not working
[11:27] <Fillado> long term support
[11:27] <CactusWiZaRd> i mean command
[11:27] <kane77> Auckland_Pig long time support
[11:27] <Krpano> ill log into my windows and start helping seed...brb
[11:27] <orbin> mind: refresh rates ususally depend on the monitor freq. values in your xorg config
[11:28] <derfbugzi> any one got a link to the dvd?
[11:28] <Auckland_Pig> oh ok
[11:28] <cef> khermans: what client?
[11:28] <derfbugzi> torrent file
[11:28] <La_PaRCa> khermans, you probably have the wrong file
[11:28] <khermans> La_PaRCa, I'm sitting on gigabit upload
[11:28] <apokryphos> kane77: well, bandwidth might not be at its fastest now, but normally it just depends on your connection
[11:28] <Tomek> is there a dvd-iso-torrent yet?
[11:28] <apokryphos> not too long
[11:28] <mind> who can i msg for help regarding nvidia driver install ? thanks
[11:28] <calyth> I've got the torrent from the us server, but somehow there aren't any seeds there....
[11:28] <La_PaRCa> khermans, check the md5
[11:28] <khermans> cef, blaunchmanycurses
[11:28] <ubuntubes> Lynoure : I just want to free disk space
[11:28] <apokryphos> Tomek:there should be, yes.
[11:28] <tgb> cef: I'm using btdownloadcurses and get that
[11:28] <kane77> apokryphos, but how much data is it?
[11:28] <dooglus> if you use azureus to connect to the torrent, you can start downloading using dht
[11:28] <khermans> La_PaRCa, I downloaded the torrents here http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[11:28] <apokryphos> kane77: depends on how many things you have installed
[11:28] <La_PaRCa> khermans, check the md6 there with the one from the iso you downloaded
[11:28] <Lynoure> ubuntubes: then careful use of rm -r <directory> will do that for you
[11:28] <apokryphos> kane77: from a default ubuntu probably around 400/500 megs it needs to grab
[11:29] <squid0> 1031 users is a LOT for a channel!!
[11:29] <chrisbudden14> sure is
[11:29] <pseudodeadkitty> nice isn't it?
[11:29] <CactusWiZaRd> how can i upgrade through apt-get?
[11:29] <squid0> yep
[11:29] <chrisbudden14> coz' Ubuntu iz kool!!
[11:29] <chrisbudden14> lol
[11:29] <Fracture> @time
[11:29] <kane77> apokryphos, oh ok... so I will start later as i have some work to do first...
[11:29] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: June 01 2006, 09:29:26
[11:29] <Linuturk> :) desktop i386 started on the torrent for me :)
[11:29] <mikey> will it take a while for all the repositories to update?
[11:29] <khermans> La_PaRCa, do you have the correct torrent files?
[11:29] <mikey> or has it already been pre-done
[11:29] <ubuntubes> Lynoure : ooo ok thanks btw how to check for my disk space left?
[11:29] <Lynoure> ubuntubes: But be sure you don't target it to a wrong directory as recovering from accidental delete can be hard (no trash bin for the command line)
[11:29] <mikey> ready for the release
[11:30] <dooglus> Fillado: do you see peers on the torrent with data now
[11:30] <ThE-LiGhT> !dapper
[11:30] <dooglus> ?
[11:30] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[11:30] <Lynoure> ubuntubes: I tend to do    df -h
[11:30] <cef> hrm, same here regards the tracker. hrm
[11:30] <kbrooks> hey all.
[11:30] <CactusWiZaRd> Current time in GMT+2: June 1, 12:30 PM
[11:30] <Godfather-Off> Fracture, the repositories of edgy are down
[11:30] <chrisbudden14> CactusWiZaRd, change breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list (use find and replace) and then to sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:30] <Fillado> googlus: yeah
[11:30] <La_PaRCa> khermans, its downloading for me
[11:30] <Linuturk> i got peers with data
[11:30] <Fillado> *dooglus
[11:30] <Astinus-> goody, ubuntu today - knoppix 5 tomorrow
[11:30] <khermans> La_PaRCa, i must not have the right torrents -- can you send to me?
[11:30] <khermans> La_PaRCa, or link me to them?
[11:30] <Fillado> i just download a bit of the file with Opera and shoved into into azureus to help get some initial minor sharing going :D
[11:30] <Balachmar> How can I help spreading the iso's?
[11:31] <Balachmar> Where can I get the torrent so I can help seeding it?
[11:31] <Linuturk> seed them on a torrent
[11:31] <z4k4ri4> The release is the same as yesterday daily build
[11:31] <Flannel> Seveas: you might wnt to link about how to upgrade with apt- in the topic.  save a lot of questions over the next few hours.
[11:31] <leleobhz> isos is via torrent?
[11:31] <JoseStefan> anyone want an ed2k link, pm me
[11:31] <leleobhz> plz send the links, someone ;] 
[11:31] <Seveas> !upgrade
[11:31] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[11:31] <Tomek> I can't find the torrentdownload for the dvd iso
[11:31] <nomis_> let's digg it to the frontpage -> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_Officially_Released
[11:31] <La_PaRCa> khermans, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/
[11:31] <ubuntubes> Lynoure : ok thanks alot man
[11:31] <changlinn> is this the right torrent http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[11:31] <khermans> La_PaRCa, I'm using those
[11:31] <Oddie> how long does it say 'Uncompressing Linux... OK, booting the kernel'?? does anyone have time frames? is it long?
[11:31] <z4k4ri4> !DVD
[11:31] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[11:31] <khermans> La_PaRCa, oh not us.
[11:31] <changlinn> I'll be seeding it at full speed as soon as I get home
[11:31] <Fillado> you want the desktop probably
[11:31] <ompaul> ohh
[11:31] <Seveas> ompaul, !
[11:31] <Lukketto> !dapper
[11:31] <Lynoure> ubuntubes: your welcome (though I'm a woman) :)
[11:31] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[11:32] <Josh43> changlinn: desktop, not alternate
[11:32] <ompaul> Seveas, can you ake out the the escapes
[11:32] <z4k4ri4> there is DVD iso for dapper?
[11:32] <bvanaerde> ok this is not nice... I thought I'd download the iso here at work, but forgot the power cable of my laptop
[11:32] <mind> lcan someone please help me with the nvidia driver installation ? i'm getting desperate
[11:32] <DarkTower> even with libdvdcss i never got dvd player working in breezy
[11:32] <l_r> congratulations!
[11:32] <Mithrandir> Oddie: a few seconds max.
[11:32] <ompaul> I was asked to they are playing havoc with some terminals
[11:32] <Seveas> ompaul, why? Ubuntu is unicode by default 
[11:32] <La_PaRCa> Balachmar, download the .torrent of whatever iso you have from here http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/ and when your client asks where to save, point it to the iso you have
[11:32] <apokryphos> z4k4ri4: mirrors haven't synced yet, looks like it.
[11:32] <PPower> mind: dont try it. i broke ubuntu.
[11:32] <neoxan> thx Seveas and sorry!
[11:32] <amac-laptop> You guys are fast: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_Officially_Released
[11:32] <LordElph> server iso seems to have no seeds, can I do a server install from the desktop iso just as easily?
[11:32] <ompaul> Seveas, some people are not as lucky as us :)
[11:32] <Celestar> I can't download :P
[11:32] <Seveas> even my irssi-in-screen-on-gentoo works fine 
[11:32] <ompaul> shhh dont say g
[11:32] <chrisbudden14> torent still not working for me
[11:33] <jcz`> can anyone tell me why #ubuntu-1 is now invite-only ??
[11:33] <panosl> Hmmmm, it seems that the torrent: ubuntu-dapper-desktop-i386.iso.torrent is not downloading. I grabbed dapper-desktop-i386.iso.torrent from the tracker page, and now its downloading fine.
[11:33] <pseudodeadkitty> Know what's funny about all the hype related to it? My wife became curious as to what all the hype was about, and why I was so excited. I think we have another linux user in the house (finally)
[11:33] <kbrooks> Seveas: ping
[11:33] <dooglus> chrisbudden14: use azureus, it'll work then
[11:33] <Linuturk> LordElph, give the seeds a little bit
[11:33] <Flannel> Seveas: yeah, irssi - screen - putty works, but have to have all three set to unicode.
[11:33] <kbrooks> Seveas: pm me
[11:33] <mind> ppower : priv pls. thanks
[11:33] <Linuturk> Alternate just started up for me :)
[11:33] <lsuactiafner> am in console and the topic looks bad to me..
[11:33] <chrisbudden14> meh, i dont like azureus dooglus
[11:33] <Seveas> kbrooks, no.
[11:33] <rubso> i'm downloading my ubuntu !!!!!!! yeah yeah yeah
[11:33] <Seveas> I'm off for a sec, shower
[11:33] <Oddie> Mithrandir: Its just locked... dame looks like I need to look at other options then..... 3rd time lucky maybe leaving it 5min now...
[11:33] <dooglus> chrisbudden14: anything compatible with az's dht will work - bitcomet for instance or utorrent
[11:33] <jcz`> #ubuntu+1 unable to join channel (invite only)
[11:33] <rubso> tyt Seveas
[11:33] <jcz`> ???
[11:33] <ompaul> ;-) thanks
[11:33] <Mithrandir> Oddie: try booting with noapic and acpi=off, maybe?
[11:33] <Flannel> jcz`: this IS #ubuntu+1 now.
[11:34] <jcz`> ohh okie
[11:34] <lsuactiafner> my irc client /home/gw/usr/bin/BitchX: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0
[11:34] <lsuactiafner> hehe
[11:34] <ompaul> jcz`, there is no +1 until eft hits the repos
[11:34] <Linuturk> no, this is #ubuntu
[11:34] <dooglus> Flannel: wouldn't #ubuntu+1 be eft?
[11:34] <lsuactiafner> using it on my amd64 hehe
[11:34] <ompaul> dooglus, in a couple of weeks
[11:34] <Linuturk> #ubuntu+1 is for the specials
[11:34] <Flannel> sigh, pedantics, the lot of you.
[11:34] <khermans> OK GIGABIT torrenting is on!!!
[11:34] <neoxan> # Ubuntu 6.06 LTS released 2005-06-01
[11:34] <LoPMX> so... ubuntu 6 is officially released?
[11:34] <Fillado> yes
[11:34] <neoxan> 2005?
[11:34] <LoPMX> yeah!
[11:34] <mikey> yes
[11:34] <neoxan> :D
[11:34] <z4k4ri4> Yes, but it thesame as yesterdays daily
[11:34] <leleobhz> YEAH!
[11:34] <dhonn> the funny thing is that when people start installing dapper they will have to logoff the channel
[11:34] <mikey> now everyone... go get a drink!
[11:34] <CactusWiZaRd> darn
[11:35] <CactusWiZaRd> :E
[11:35] <PPower> expect the nicks to go down fast.
[11:35] <Linuturk> got a seed on the i386 alternate
[11:35] <rixxon> how do you upgrade rc to final? 'DapperUpgrades' doesn't mention this
[11:35] <baijum> Please give me torrent link for i386
[11:35] <pschulz01> Drink
[11:35] <jcz`> can someone tell me how i log onto 'failsafe terminal' ??
[11:35] <JoseStefan> have ed2k links for the desktop releases
[11:35] <leleobhz> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_Officially_Released
[11:35] <apokryphos> rixxon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:35] <chrisbudden14_> im just getting rejected by tracker on bittornado
[11:35] <rixxon> apokryphos: ah ok thanks
[11:35] <tgb> khermans: which tracker URL did you use that worked?
[11:35] <lmanul> jcz`: Use options on the greet screen
[11:35] <agwibowo> huh?
[11:35] <dooglus> chrisbudden14_: bittornado doesn't do DHT do it?
[11:35] <Godfather-Off> wich kernel has dapper drake?
[11:35] <agwibowo> Dapper is released?
[11:35] <alanhs> Mithrandir, when you said "noapi apci=off...."  How do I specify that during a boot ? F6 ?
[11:35] <mikey> hip hip HOORAY!
[11:35] <rixxon> apokryphos: will i have to reboot / things like that?
[11:35] <pseudodeadkitty> khermans: 1025 Guiness....now that's a tab. :)
[11:35] <chrisbudden14_> whats DHT dooglus
[11:35] <Sonderblade> why does ubuntu use utf-8 default instead of iso-8859?
[11:35] <mikey> YES!
[11:35] <khermans> tgb, well im having same problem still on some torrent files -- but some from us.releases... are working okay
[11:35] <philipacamaniac> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[11:35] <asdx_> whats so cool about dapper?
[11:36] <leleobhz> YEP!
[11:36] <dooglus> Godfather-Off: 2.6.15-23-686
[11:36] <Fillado> DHT means you can do torrents without a tracker
[11:36] <tgb> khermans: ok, I'll try that one, thanks.
[11:36] <apokryphos> rixxon: it's probably a good idea, yes.
[11:36] <khermans> pseudodeadkitty, i bought 5 Irish Car Bombs last night...heh
[11:36] <Mithrandir> alanhs: yes.
[11:36] <lmanul> alanhs: If you're using grub, type "e" to edit one of the menu entries
[11:36] <Kr0ntab> asdx_, it starts with a d!
[11:36] <apokryphos> ubotu: no rc is <reply> To Upgrade from RC to final, just: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:36] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[11:36] <chrisbudden14_> thanks Fillado
[11:36] <Godfather-Off> dooglus, in the web says 2.6.15.6
[11:36] <Mithrandir> alanhs: just append it to the end of the line.
[11:36] <agwibowo> just about time!
[11:36] <rixxon> apokryphos: will i loose any data on the disk?! :P
[11:36] <agwibowo> i'm sick of this opensuse
[11:36] <bliss_> Dapper Drake has been released http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185721
[11:36] <apokryphos> rixxon: nope
[11:36] <alanhs> Mithrandir, thanks :-)
[11:36] <rixxon> apokryphos: cool thank you
[11:36] <Seveas> bliss_, we need no forum crap to know it has been released...
[11:36] <CactusWiZaRd> apokryphos: for me this doesn't update anything :E
[11:36] <leleobhz> asdx_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[11:37] <Chousuke> I wonder how many people will come here telling it's released. :D
[11:37] <charle97> hello
[11:37] <Oddie> Mithrandir: thx i will try that....
[11:37] <apokryphos> CactusWiZaRd: were you on dapper RC?
[11:37] <dhonn> http://distrowatch.com/ kubuntu shows up
[11:37] <bbrazil> Chousuke: based on #debian with the sarge release, a lot
[11:37] <jcz`> options on the greet screen? all i see is 'applications'  'places' and 'system' at the top of my desktop, im using dapper
[11:37] <Celestar> Seveas: will there be any Sparc release anytime soon?
[11:37] <kbrooks> Seveas: mdz announce it
[11:37] <Chousuke> bbrazil: hahah :D
[11:37] <philipacamaniac> Chousuke: It's released!
[11:37] <dooglus> Godfather-Off: that's what uname -r tells me.
[11:37] <Chousuke> I saw that.
[11:37] <agwibowo> whats the server version?
[11:37] <CactusWiZaRd> apokryphos, Breezy Badger
[11:37] <Soir> You'd think we'd be the first to know 8)
[11:37] <Seveas> Celestar, might take a few days
[11:37] <Godfather-Off> dooglus, me too, but in the official release says 2.6.15.6
[11:37] <apokryphos> CactusWiZaRd: then check the /topic
 hey, ubuntu 6.06 is out!
[11:37] <bbrazil> agwibowo: has a more servery packages on the cd, more minimal install
 yeah, the guy who told everyone else is idle over there
[11:37] <l_r> hmm isn't there a dvd version?
[11:38] <Godfather-Off> dooglus, see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[11:38] <mdz> Cheers, everyone
[11:38] <thoreauputic> heh - pretty crowded in here today ;-) Wonder why ...
[11:38] <mdz> crowded in here
[11:38] <apokryphos> Soir: about the kubuntu release? Well, those in #kubuntu knew first yeah :)
[11:38] <agwibowo> bbrazil: more minimal install???
[11:38] <thoreauputic> mdz: :)
[11:38] <bliss_> RELESE ISSUED BY  Matt Zimmerman
[11:38] <bbrazil> agwibowo: installs as little as possible, doesn't install X etc.
[11:38] <apokryphos> mdz: indeed :). Largest channel by quite a bit.
[11:38] <agwibowo> bbrazil: ah.. ok .. thx
[11:38] <agwibowo> no dvd version?
[11:38] <Laterix> So is there this normal install CD available or is it just Desktop install nowadays?
[11:38] <sduffy> When is Dapper Drake going to be released?
[11:38] <bbrazil> agwibowo: waiting on it myself, should be
[11:38] <thoreauputic> hi ompaul :)
[11:38] <lsuactiafner> damnit i just finished my breezy download on a dialup..
[11:38] <freddo> \o/
[11:38] <apokryphos> agwibowo: not yet; looks like the mirrors still need to sync.
[11:38] <Lukketto> aduffy: it's out!
[11:38] <thoreauputic> Seveas: meanie ;-)
[11:38] <Balachmar> I get Requested download is not authorized with this tracker...
[11:38] <Linuturk> lol lsuactiafner
[11:38] <Soir> sduffy: a few minutes ago.
[11:39] <khermans> Seems like only the ALTERNATE torrents are working for me
[11:39] <orbin> lsuactiafner: ouch
[11:39] <Balachmar> How do I fix that?
[11:39] <Ng> is the dapper server kernel just recommended for big iron machines or regular PC hardware running as a server too?
[11:39] <bbrazil> Ng: 8+ cpu
[11:39] <Chousuke> I'd torrent Dapper, but I have a 7GB upload limit :/
[11:39] <Fillado> dammit i'm just going to get the file with Opera and then move it onto the torrent when it's working
[11:39] <sduffy> Soir: hmm i must check our mirror or force an update of it
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> heh not really... but takes 2 weeks to get it
[11:39] <bliss_> Seveas: sorry i though it was official as  Matt Zimmerman works for ubuntu
[11:39] <kbrooks> Chousuke: umm.
[11:39] <Ng> bbrazil: fair enough, thanks :)
[11:39] <sduffy> Soir: where is the release?
[11:39] <Linuturk> i386-desktop is going fast for me, and I'm not connected to any seeds
[11:39] <apokryphos> sduffy: /topic
[11:39] <ompaul> hi thoreauputic
[11:39] <Balachmar> I get Requested download is not authorized with this tracker... How do I fix that?
[11:39] <GazzaK>  Ubuntu can now be installed to USB devices, such as removable
[11:39] <GazzaK>  hard drives and flash memory, using the text-mode installer
[11:39] <leleobhz> a superseed for ubuntu now
[11:39] <GazzaK> woo
[11:39] <kbrooks> Chousuke: bittorent does not use up that
[11:39] <Flannel> woooohooo.  Now, all we need is seeders for desktop and server...
[11:39] <bbrazil> Ng: results may vary etc.
[11:39] <cef> yup the alternate torrents are the only ones working - http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[11:40] <mdz> bliss_: the sparc CDs will be released somewhat later; see the announcement
[11:40] <thoreauputic> ompaul: heheh - bit of excitement in the air :)
[11:40] <khermans> Balachmar, a lot of us are getting that error
[11:40] <Seveas> bliss_, and why do you think he'd tell the forums without telling us? 
[11:40] <mdz> the torrents are being worked on
[11:40] <Chousuke> kbrooks: well, it will if I forget it on for that long :P
[11:40] <kbrooks> Chousuke: it uses up WHAT you set foor uploading
[11:40] <mdz> they're coming up one at a time
[11:40] <leleobhz> a moment
[11:40] <ompaul> thoreauputic, so it appears
[11:40] <mdz> the alternates happen to be first alphabetically
[11:40] <kbrooks> Chousuke: no, it won't.
[11:40] <leleobhz> torrent rejected me! :[
[11:40] <rixth> So supposedly it has been released, but on ISOs are available?
[11:40] <Godfather-Off> Seveas, how is possible that official release has kenerl 2.6.15.6 and other releases has 2.6.15.23 ?
[11:40] <Chousuke> besides I'm not sure how much bw I have left before the limit.
[11:40] <charle97> my alternate torrent download is kicking ass
[11:40] <mind> Cand anyone help me configure X to allow refresh rates higher than 60 hz ?
[11:40] <ompaul> mdz, question, dvds are they anywhere yet?
[11:40] <Polibio> in this page: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html  they say that the definitive Kernel is 2.6.15.6, but I already have kernel 2.6.15.23, how can it be?
[11:40] <Soir> and people wonder why I like apt ;)
[11:40] <kbrooks> Chousuke: fine.
[11:40] <Seveas> Godfather-Off, 2.5.15-23 == 2.6.15.6
[11:40] <Big_T> hi
[11:40] <Seveas> a - is not a .
[11:40] <Linuturk> mdz, why is the desktop working for me then?
[11:40] <jcz`> ompaul, 'options on the greet screen'?   all i see is 'applications'  'places' and 'system' at the top of my desktop, im using dapper
[11:40] <mdz> ompaul: more or less
[11:40] <charle97> hello
[11:41] <Big_T> dapper released alerady? ^^
[11:41] <ompaul> mdz, se. good to go?
[11:41] <Chousuke> kbrooks: I suppose You have enough seeds as it is though.
[11:41] <mdz> Linuturk: amd64 desktop just started working for me
[11:41] <protocol1> how can I tell whether im running beta or official?
[11:41] <ompaul> mdz, sorry I am pushing this one I have to get 100 burnt for tonight
[11:41] <Moof> congratulations, guys
[11:41] <KenSentMe> !tell Big_T about dapper
[11:41] <cef> desktop i386 should now be available as torrent
[11:41] <chrisbudden14> torrent working
[11:41] <Big_T> thanx :)
[11:41] <ubuntubes> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ <--- dapper
[11:41] <Tomek> why there 3 different i386-dvd trackers?
[11:41] <chrisbudden14> thanks
[11:41] <kestas> !tell kestas about dapper
[11:41] <Linuturk> mdz had i386-desktop and i386 alternative going for a few minutes
[11:41] <Chousuke> kbrooks: I just happen to have ~1MB/s upload... the limits just suck :(
[11:41] <DarkTower> gtg, enjoy dapper all. thx to the developers
[11:41] <Polibio> Godfather-Off, :) no te le
[11:41] <luis> congratulations for ubuntu devs!!!
[11:41] <thoreauputic> protocol1: if you have been dist-upgrading dapper you already have it :)
[11:41] <Prof_Frink> Yep, i386-desktop is go
[11:42] <mdz> Linuturk: i386 desktop working now, too
[11:42] <kestas> guys if dapper is out how come I can't download the ISO?
[11:42] <snowblink> Will Dapper be okay with a dual-core machine?
[11:42] <Linuturk> i386 server still dead
[11:42] <Godfather-Off> Polibio, :P
[11:42] <kestas> the download page just says 5.10
[11:42] <mdz> Linuturk: as I say, they're coming up one at a time, in alphabetical order
[11:42] <lightstar> i386 torrent a ok
[11:42] <mdz> Linuturk: the server is VERY BUSY
[11:42] <elkbuntu> kestas, because everyone else is trying to do the same
[11:42] <PPower> Anyone, is there a way I can make a command run in the same script that starts the networking on bootup before it gets a dhcp lease
[11:42] <bliss_> Seveas: no idea why not ask him?
[11:42] <ajmitch_> snowblink: yes, perfectly fine with dualcore
[11:42] <kbrooks> kestas: typo?
[11:42] <Celestar> Seveas: pity :(
[11:42] <Flannel> snowblink: yep
[11:42] <xice> guys: digg this: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_6.06_LTS_Released_(Torrent_Link)
[11:42] <Linuturk> :) just trying to help
[11:42] <Tonus> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/606released points to a download link that still has 5.10 only. someone wanna fix that?
[11:42] <xice> ice> guys: digg this: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_6.06_LTS_Released_(Torrent_Link)
[11:42] <kestas> elkbuntu: is there a torrent?
[11:42] <dbglt> can anyone point me to a HOWTO on how to setup XGL under dapper with an ati graphics card?
[11:42] <kestas> k
[11:42] <jcz`> ompaul ?
[11:42] <ubuntubes> is dapper support my server proliant ML 350 G2 ??
[11:42] <protocol1> thoreauputic, but is there a way to check between beta or the official?
[11:42] <snowblink> Flannel, ajmitch_, cheers. Will install soon. :)
[11:42] <thoreauputic> guys, use the torrent to spare the servers :)
[11:42] <Seveas> bliss_, that was not a question...
[11:42] <ompaul> jcz`, sorry?
[11:42] <apokryphos> dbglt: /msg ubotu xgl
[11:42] <CactusWiZaRd> does every change that o
[11:42] <elkbuntu> kestas, if you're getting it from a mirror, it may not have synched yet
[11:42] <jcz`> ompaul, 'options on the greet screen'?   all i see is 'applications'  'places' and 'system' at the top of my desktop, im using dapper
[11:43] <CactusWiZaRd> i've* made, disappear?
[11:43] <khermans> thoreauputic, we are trying but they are faulty
[11:43] <thoreauputic> protocol1: I think I already answered you - if you are up to date, you have official
[11:43] <protocol1> ok thanks
[11:43] <thoreauputic> khermans: ah, OK
[11:43] <elkbuntu> Seveas, care to put the releases wiki page (ie the ones with the torrents) in the topic?
[11:43] <Balachmar> I'm super seeding the desktop torrent atm
[11:43] <sduffy> hmm, dapper has been on our mirror for a week now
[11:43] <Balachmar> It still complains about the tracker, but it does work...
[11:43] <apokryphos> sduffy: not official
[11:43] <elkbuntu> sduffy, that would have been RC
[11:43] <ompaul> jcz`, sorry I don't have a context for the question what are these options you are referring to
[11:44] <Oddie> Mithrandir: thx it loaded.... now to install it ;)
[11:44] <locksy> Is there a problem with the the torrents?
[11:44] <kbrooks> if i want to help distribute the torrent, what can i do?
[11:44] <Flannel> thoreauputic: we're waiting on seeds for desktop and server.  but, I'm torrenting all three! (just discovered btmany, very nice!)
[11:44] <thoreauputic> locksy: apparently
[11:44] <apokryphos> kbrooks: leave it seeding in your torrent client
[11:44] <thoreauputic> Flannel: :)
[11:44] <kbrooks> apokryphos: well, i dont need the iso ;)
[11:44] <bbrazil> kbrooks: start downloading, and leave it connected after you're finished
[11:44] <rixth> kbrooks, download it and leave your client open
[11:44] <Big_T> what is the difference by alternate and desktop releases? :S
[11:44] <kbrooks> Big_T: alternate = text mode
[11:44] <l_r> i wonder whether it takes more to install from cd and download/install the rest or wait for the dvd iso...any idea?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> Big_T: alternte is th e"install only" CD
[11:45] <Flannel> thoreauputic: heh.  this channel is so laggy.  bursts of like 20 lines.
[11:45] <kbrooks> Big_T: desktop = gui
[11:45] <Big_T> thanx kbrooks
[11:45] <jcz`> ompaul, im trying to log onto failsafe terminal
[11:45] <thoreauputic> Flannel: oh - I'm not seeing that here
[11:45] <Nookie> is ubuntu+1 channel down?
[11:45] <bbrazil> jcz`: try crtl-alt-f1
[11:45] <Ng> Nookie: since there is no ubuntu+1 yet, yes
[11:45] <pseudodeadkitty> Nookie: This IS #ubuntu+1 now.
[11:45] <thoreauputic> Nookie: until Edgy satarts
[11:45] <speedsix> Hi does anyone have any experience with transcode?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> *starts
[11:46] <asdx_> heck. more people here than in #debian lmao
[11:46] <Lynoure> Flannel: The channel is not laggy, your connection is...
[11:46] <Big_T> Downstream: 263.26kb/s  Upstream: 4.98kb/s
[11:46] <KenSentMe> can i download torrents using the command line?
[11:46] <agwibowo> has anyone tried compiz + xgl in ubuntu? the one in suse is a bit dodgy
[11:46] <LivingTarget> ubuntu ftw
[11:46] <rubso> guys, could you please give me a torrnet link?
[11:46] <Linuturk> heh, so when is Edgy out? (just kidding) :-P
[11:46] <apokryphos> agwibowo: 10.1? Doubt it. Though: /msg ubotu xgl
[11:46] <bbrazil> KenSentMe: yes, forget the name of the program - apt-cache search bittorrent
[11:46] <Lukketto> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[11:46] <thoreauputic> Linuturk: when it's ready ;P
[11:46] <Linuturk> rubso it's in the topic
[11:46] <ompaul> jcz`, did that sort you out?
[11:46] <rubso> ok ;)
[11:46] <mind> Cand anyone help me configure X to allow refresh rates higher than 60 hz ?
[11:47] <locksy> The tracker http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ seems to have different names for the torrents than is on http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[11:47] <Linuturk> for heavens sake
[11:47] <khermans> http://www.ubuntu.com/download still points to Breezy
[11:47] <bliss_> Seveas: without being rude why was ompail kicked out?
[11:47] <kbrooks> do i have to keep the iso AFTER i d/l it?
[11:47] <thoreauputic> khermans: correct
[11:47] <evad> khermans: just click a mirror and change 5.10 in the url to 6.06
[11:47] <bliss_> ompaul
[11:47] <Seveas> bliss_, for being irish ;)
[11:47] <evad> :P
[11:47] <Lukketto> about kubuntu-dapper?
[11:47] <thoreauputic> khermans: I noticed that too
[11:47] <luis_> where is the download link??
[11:47] <khermans> thoreauputic, intentional?
[11:47] <khermans> ok
[11:47] <kbrooks> bliss_: you think that's rude to ask?
[11:47] <kestas> http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-rc-desktop-i386.iso is this the right one? it has RC in it :P
[11:47] <thoreauputic> khermans: don't know
[11:47] <speedsix> anyone use transcode?
[11:48] <COSM0S> hello, anyone can help me with vmware?
[11:48] <cef> no. not the -rc- release
[11:48] <evad> kestas: then......no
[11:48] <BadriNarayan> kestas: no
[11:48] <jcz`> ompaul, well now i see a command line screen, wat do i do next to logon to failsafe terminal ? my problem is dapper is taking almost 5 minutes to logon after typing in my username and pw
[11:48] <khermans> speedsix, try gtranscode if you are unfamiliar
[11:48] <khermans> COSM0S, yea
[11:48] <kestas> evad: all of the mirrors seem to have rc only
[11:48] <agwibowo> whats gtranscode for?
[11:48] <COSM0S> ty kermans
[11:48] <bliss_> Seveas: yes i kinow he is Irish but lets no joke about it
[11:48] <BadriNarayan> jcz; type xinit
[11:48] <orbin> kbrooks: er, if you're seeding it, i think you need the complete file   ... not 100% sure though
[11:48] <khermans> agwibowo, a frontend
[11:48] <evad> kestas: I found one with 6.06
[11:48] <dooglus> kbrooks: you should keep the iso if you want to help seed it, yes
[11:48] <COSM0S> i'm using vmware's image with a NAT connection
[11:48] <agwibowo> ok...
[11:48] <COSM0S> simple i wanna know
[11:48] <evad> cough http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[11:48] <agwibowo> only 6 seeds at the moment... :(
[11:48] <speedsix> khermans I'm getting errors with the command line transcode so I think a frontend would fail still :(
[11:48] <derfbugzi> any one got DVD torrent links?
[11:49] <ompaul> jcz`, what spec is the hardware you have?
[11:49] <COSM0S> have i to use a firewall on the image?
[11:49] <noodle> \topic
[11:49] <Verithrax> Hm, it's possible to update to dapper automatically already, right?
[11:49] <thoreauputic> I think yesterday's daily is the same ISO - anyone confirm that?
[11:49] <KenSentMe> bbrazil i've just installed the package bittorrent, but can't seem to run it. Or do i need an other package too?
[11:49] <Healot> you guys prefer bt?
[11:49] <Lukketto> Verithax: ues
[11:49] <bbrazil> KenSentMe: I think rtorrent is what you're looking for
[11:49] <Healot> bt network is like worm speed nowadays
[11:49] <Grunt> hey is it finally out now?
[11:49] <Lukketto> Verythax: yes
[11:49] <kbrooks> thoreauputic: it isnt
[11:49] <Verithrax> Running upgrade-manager normally doesn't tell me about dapper.
[11:49] <agwibowo> Grunt: yes
[11:49] <amac-laptop> Yep. Show your love: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_Officially_Released
[11:49] <rubso> Linuturk: dapper-desktop-i386.iso am i right?
[11:49] <jcz`> ompaul, sempron 3000 cpu with 1 gig ram
[11:49] <thoreauputic> Healot: bittorrent is better for these ISO s and should be fast
[11:49] <Grunt> Excellent, thanks
[11:49] <bbrazil> KenSentMe: haven't used bt myself
[11:50] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: OK - thanks
[11:50] <evad> there is no "bt network" so if your torrents are slow it's just those torrents that are slow :P
[11:50] <Verithrax> Running upgrade-manager -d does, but it dies when I try to upgrade.
[11:50] <evad> well unless you mean British Telecom network :P
[11:50] <selinium> Verithrax: Have you changed your sources.list to point to dapper?
[11:50] <OmniD> cocks
[11:50] <Lukketto> Verythax: system->administration-> update
[11:50] <trygvebw> has it been officially released yet?
[11:50] <Ng> evad: or that your ISP isn't friendly to BT
[11:50] <ompaul> jcz`, that is *not right* there is something very wrong with that
[11:50] <HairyDude> how do you get aptitude to forget all holds?
[11:50] <asdx_> http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[11:50] <trygvebw> or only kubuntu?
[11:50] <cef> hrm. 4535kB/s total.. hrmmmm not high enough
[11:50] <Polibio> in this page: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html  they say that the definitive Kernel is 2.6.15.6, but I already have kernel 2.6.15-23, how can it be?
[11:50] <packman_e> hello all
[11:50] <Lukketto> verythax: without -d
[11:50] <jcz`> ompaul, when i type xinit + pw it just gives me 'login incorrect'
[11:50] <evad> Ng: possibly....
[11:50] <Grunt> 3 hrs to download :-(
[11:50] <Healot> the upgrade from breezy to dapper is like 200MB or something. huge
[11:50] <mnk> hello all - how do i do a distribution upgrade from dapper beta  to  final release?
[11:51] <bliss_> ompaul: good to have you back
[11:51] <Verithrax> Doesn't work. I have to change the source list? I thought it did that by itself.
[11:51] <pschulz01> #ubuntu-devel
[11:51] <Lukketto> Healot: it takes 1 hour for me
[11:51] <agwibowo> Grunt: 1 day and 13 hours
[11:51] <Patrick1> mnk: apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:51] <ompaul> jcz`, no to do that you log in with your usual username and password
[11:51] <backz> what's ubuntu 'alternate'?
[11:51] <bbrazil> Polibio: one is the ubuntu version, the other the linux versioning
[11:51] <Seveas> backz, text-mode install
[11:51] <Auckland_Pig> can anyone tell me how fast torrents are?
[11:51] <Auckland_Pig> please :)
[11:51] <OmniD> TOO fast
[11:51] <PeanutHorst> Auckland_Pig: um
[11:52] <Grunt> its killing me and I have a 2mb connection speed...are there any mirrors ready yet?
[11:52] <dooglus> Auckland_Pig: not fast at the moment - about 120Kb/s down
[11:52] <mnk> don't i have to 'update' the package files thingy?
[11:52] <Lukketto> verythax: did you change your souce-list?
[11:52] <OmniD> 120 down is pretty fast
[11:52] <Seveas> Grunt, nl.releases.ubuntu.com
[11:52] <PeanutHorst> Auckland_Pig: depends on the strength of connection, speed of seed host, other leeches, etc.
[11:52] <jcz`> ompaul, how do i login to failsafe terminal ?
[11:52] <mnk> cos my system is saying nothing to upgrade
[11:52] <Big_T> Auckland_Pig at the beginning slow but after a few hours it will be ultra fast :)
[11:52] <backz> dapper servers comes with Xorg?
[11:52] <dooglus> OmniD: it'll get faster - there are 9 seeds and 127 peers at the moment...
[11:52] <Polibio> bbrazil, thanks, do you know what is the definitive Ubuntu version in Dapper?   I say that because 2.6.15-23 give me some problems with the wifi card
[11:52] <dmb062082> woohoo just installd ubuntu64
[11:52] <Auckland_Pig> ok
[11:52] <kestas> backz: nope
[11:52] <thoreauputic> Auckland_Pig: it will speed up as more seeds come in
[11:52] <Healot> backz: yes xorg as the previous release
[11:52] <phatmonkey> does anyone have any logs of #ubuntu+1 from yesterday? i need an error message i got for a bug report
[11:53] <dmb062082> amazing guys, pain in the ass setting xserver-xorg with my monitor and vid card though heh
[11:53] <dmb062082> but im all set
[11:53] <Auckland_Pig> ok
[11:53] <ThE-LiGhT>  /msg ubotu upgrade
[11:53] <bbrazil> Polibio: there's no real difference between the 2.6.15.x kernels, mostly security fixes
[11:53] <ThE-LiGhT>  /msg ubotu upgrade
[11:53] <COSM0S> someone can help me with vmware please?
[11:53] <backz> dapper server uses another package repo? because it will be supported for five years.
[11:53] <apokryphos> ThE-LiGhT: no space before /
[11:53] <khermans> COSM0S, i offered to help
[11:53] <ompaul> jcz`, okay, bottom left of the gui screen - options - failsafe terminal   -- then log in
[11:53] <Big_T> now i will lose windows forever :D
[11:53] <Kr0ntab> adios #ubuntu+1  hehe...
[11:53] <Verithrax> I didn't change my sourse list before... I did now...
[11:53] <COSM0S> i'm using vmware's image with a NAT connection
[11:53] <Verithrax> Let me try again.
[11:53] <dmb062082> now for apt-get install kde, its just not working, so my question is, is there a command to get the entire kde package, and whats the 1st thing i should be doing as a new user update wise?
[11:53] <jcz`> ompaul, each time i quit dapper i only get 'system halting' or sumthing like that, it never actually shuts off, i have to push my external power off button to do that
[11:53] <Lynoure> Big_T: congrats for that :)
[11:53] <dmb062082> thanks in advance
[11:53] <COSM0S> have i to use a firewall on the image?
[11:54] <Grunt> Thanks Seveas
[11:54] <khermans> Kr0ntab, oh its still here -- no its edgy
[11:54] <apokryphos> dmb062082: install kubuntu-desktop
[11:54] <ThE-LiGhT> apokryphos, yeah, i fixed it :)
[11:54] <kestas> Ill be the first to grep all the text files for my admin pass :P
[11:54] <TheMadman> why are there 3 seperate .iso images on torrent.ubuntu.com for the dapper-desktop-amd64 iso?
[11:54] <khermans> COSM0S, if you want
[11:54] <Polibio> bbrazil, but mi wifi card works perfectly in 2.6.15-19 and not in 2.6.15-23
[11:54] <Kr0ntab> phatmonkey, I thinks I have the logs
[11:54] <siccness> 3 years is mad
[11:54] <jcz`> ompaul, how do i get out of this failsafe terminal now ?
[11:54] <kestas> TheMadman: 2 of them wipe your system
[11:54] <COSM0S> but is it necessary?
[11:54] <ompaul> jcz`, is it a black screen?
[11:54] <bbrazil> Polibio: odd, wifi is out of my experiance though
[11:54] <leleobhz> bbrazil: ubuntu-br?
[11:54] <COSM0S> or is it enought to use on the host?
[11:54] <jcz`> black command line screen yes
[11:54] <Polibio> bbrazil, ok, thanks vm
[11:54] <ompaul> jcz`, type exit
[11:54] <bbrazil> !br
[11:54] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:55] <Verithrax> Yeah, it finds the source.
[11:55] <leleobhz> :p
[11:55] <khermans> COSM0S, it depends how your setup the networking part
[11:55] <leleobhz> bbrazil: im there! :] 
[11:55] <jcz`> ompaul, i did that already
[11:55] <leleobhz> im asking about you
[11:55] <khermans> if it is NAT, then your host firewall i think is fine
[11:55] <mind> Cand anyone help me configure X to allow refresh rates higher than 60 hz ? thanks
[11:55] <bbrazil> leleobhz: /whois
[11:55] <Sonderblade> !se
[11:55] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[11:55] <COSM0S> it is simple a nat
[11:55] <khermans> COSM0S, however, what do you lose if you have a friewall in the image too
[11:55] <jcz`> ompaul, it just says 'localhost login'
[11:55] <ompaul> jcz`,
[11:55] <mnk> how do i update the sources.list? my system says there is nothing to upgrade
[11:55] <Verithrax> Well thar she blows.
[11:55] <dmb062082> install kubuntu-desktop, will this just add the  kde gui to my boot up display manager with the option to boot into kde? Or totally replace ubuntu
[11:55] <apokryphos> mnk: /msg ubotu upgrade
[11:55] <dmb062082> sorry I dont know much
[11:55] <Verithrax> Through apt, but GUIs inherently suck anyway.
[11:55] <TheMadman> so uh is there any official releases other than bittorrents
[11:56] <leleobhz> bbrazil: :P
[11:56] <ompaul> jcz`, so your out of it that is a standard terminal, the one you want to go to is Ctrl+Alt+F7
[11:56] <trygvebw> dmb062082, add the option
[11:56] <apokryphos> dmb062082: it will add the option
[11:56] <TheMadman> er are there
[11:56] <COSM0S> i think that the image can be more slow
[11:56] <dmb062082> woohoo awesome!!
[11:56] <dmb062082> I love you guys
[11:56] <Verithrax> At least shub-internet is being nice today, 200kbps. :D
[11:56] <cef> yay! over 5000kB/s served out of the torrent
[11:56] <Flannel> TheMadman: yes, but they've all slowed to a crawl.
[11:56] <dmb062082> bye bye windows, now I just need to give vmware and crossover office a wack, thanks apok and try
[11:56] <Big_T> Downstream: 252.96kb/s  Upstream: 4.43kb/s
[11:56] <dmb062082> still cant live with out dreamweaver heh, but gimp is nice
[11:56] <khermans> cef, your torrent?
[11:57] <backz> have ubuntu server automated LAMP?
[11:57] <khermans> dmb062082, try Nvu
[11:57] <Oddie> If you dont have alot of ram like myself.... How would I install it straght from the boot menu?
[11:57] <bliss_> final build http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ MD5 checksums confirmed it
[11:57] <agwibowo> i still think nothing can beat dreamweaver, khermans
[11:57] <cef> khermans: that's the current total down speed of all the people fetching the i386 desktop torrent. *grin*
[11:57] <kbrooks> backz: no.
[11:57] <dmb062082> Nvu?
[11:57] <kbrooks> backz: get LAMP
[11:57] <thoreauputic> !info nvu
[11:57] <TheMadman> ahs o http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/ all slow?
[11:57] <kbrooks> !lamp
[11:57] <cef> well. out of the 22 that are talking to my client
[11:57] <ubotu> nvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB
[11:57] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:57] <khermans> cef, from your torrent or official Ubuntu servers?
[11:58] <phatmonkey> how can i update from the RC? are the repositories updated yet?
[11:58] <thoreauputic> dmb062082: you picked a bad day for asking w=questions ;)
[11:58] <leleobhz> problems with torrent seeds?
[11:58] <KenSentMe> bbrazil rtorrent is the right package, thanx
[11:58] <khermans> 2^10 users in here
[11:58] <Grunt> installing LAMP on ubuntu 10 mins, setting it up on windows 1 hour!!
[11:58] <kbrooks> "Also in 6.06 (Dapper Drake) you have the option of choosing to install a LAMP setup at the inital Ubuntu installation screen."
[11:58] <jcz`> ompaul, ok someone told me to use alt-cntrl-f1 to get failsafe, then type xinit , yes ?
[11:58] <dooglus> cef: I see "Swarm speed: 6.31MB/s (77.1 kB/s average)
[11:58] <evi|one> That "Desktop CD" stuff is a combination of live CD and installation CD?
[11:59] <kbrooks> !lamp is also in 6.06 (Dapper Drake) you have the option of choosing to install a LAMP setup at the inital Ubuntu installation screen.
[11:59] <ubotu> okay, kbrooks
[11:59] <KenSentMe> lol, my torrents are uploading more than they are downloading
[11:59] <Lukketto> what are the differences between "dapper-desktop-i386.iso"  AND  "ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso" ???
[11:59] <khermans> Grunt, installing LAMP on Windows is, by definition, impossible :-)
[11:59] <dmb062082> later guys
[11:59] <leleobhz> my torrent i386 is not downloading
[11:59] <cef> dooglus: woo!
[11:59] <evad> Lukketto: read http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[11:59] <Astinus-> kbrooks: haven't seen that option ..
[11:59] <kbrooks> khermans: WAMP exists
[11:59] <jcz`> ompaul, how do i troubleshoot my 5 minute logon delay ?
[11:59] <Linuturk> nvu isn't all that great
[11:59] <Grunt> true what i should have said was WAMP ;-)
[11:59] <agwibowo> KenSentMe: mine too!!! 70 KB/s upload, 3KB/s download
[11:59] <chrisbudden14__> what the speed like on the torrents for you guys?
[11:59] <Linuturk> nvu isn't all that great
[11:59] <ompaul> jcz`, if you want a terminal that is where you go, if you want failsafe then you do what I suggested, bottom left of the gui - then log in
[11:59] <khermans> kbrooks, of cource -- my point
[11:59] <dooglus> Lukketto: alternate is text-only; desktop is live+ graphical install
[11:59] <phatmonkey>  how can i update from the RC? are the repositories updated yet? - anybody?
[11:59] <ompaul> jcz`, then check what your loading at the start
[11:59] <khermans> Linuturk, alright use emacs then
[12:00] <Linuturk> heh, my irc client is lagging
[12:00] <dooglus> phatmonkey: just update as usual.  apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:00] <cef> phatmonkey: use rsync
[12:00] <agwibowo> phatmonkey: you should just need to run apt-get
[12:00] <kbrooks> phatmonkey: just update
[12:00] <phatmonkey> ok, nothing there yet
[12:00] <cute_bettong> http://www.deviantart.com/view/34111635/
[12:00] <leleobhz> someone with problems with torrent?
[12:00] <zcat[1] > I've just started torrenting all the desktop iso's .. good speed into the NZ backbone so hopefully this will help everyone a little :)
[12:00] <mnk> which file tells me which release i'm using pls?
[12:00] <jcz`> ompaul, ok i dont see options on my bottom left gui
[12:00] <dooglus> phatmonkey: nothing changed since the pcmcia update a few hours ago
[12:00] <cef> phatmonkey: rsync will update the .iso, or if you've installed, just use apt-get
[12:00] <mnk> is there something like /etc/ubuntu-release ?
[12:00] <kbrooks> why is live AND desktop good? what does it bring to the user?
[12:01] <bbrazil> Linuturk: you can use traffic control to gaurentee irc etc. bandwidth
[12:01] <khermans> Least popular torrent:
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[12:01] <khermans> whoops
[12:01] <Terminus-> mnk: type 'lsb_release -a' in a console. :)
[12:01] <phatmonkey> haha, now it gets fixed. my upgrade died from a pcmcia problem
[12:01] <kbrooks> why is live AND desktop good? what does it bring to the user?
[12:01] <ompaul> jcz`, how did you get dapper?
[12:01] <dooglus> kbrooks: it means I can try ubuntu without affecting windows, and then install it if I like it, all from the same CD
[12:01] <zcat[1] > kbrooks: test your hardware before you install, prettyier installer, do other stuff while you wait..
[12:02] <cef> kbrooks: you can play with it, and install from it using a graphical interface
[12:02] <dooglus> kbrooks: previously I had to download 2 huge iso files - one to try, and one to install.
[12:02] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: more like what it brings to the shipit distribution method ( lower costs)
[12:02] <Afief> Can someone tell me where to get dapper from? the homepage still links to breezy
[12:02] <jcz`> i downloaded it off torrents if i recall correctly about 10 days ago
[12:02] <jcz`> ompaul
[12:02] <kbrooks> dooglus: now you have to get 1 iso file?
[12:02] <Oddie> dooglus: is there a way of installing the ubuntu from boot without having to load the live? I dont have much ram?
[12:02] <owlmanatt> happy dapper day
[12:02] <khermans> Lest popular: ubuntu-6.06-server-amd64.iso
[12:02] <lightstar> Afief, http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[12:02] <ajmitch_> zcat[1] : 100Mbps+ ?
[12:02] <dooglus> Oddie: I don't know
[12:02] <ompaul> jcz`, I read that, okay, and you installed then, when did it start going that slow?
[12:02] <dooglus> kbrooks: right.
[12:02] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: built-in installer on the desktop/live CD
[12:02] <Terminus-> Oddie: alternate cd i think. :)
[12:02] <dooglus> kbrooks: the 'desktop' one is both live cd and install cd
[12:02] <kbrooks> khermans: if course it is, amd64 sux after all
[12:03] <jcz`> ompaul, the first time i rebooted after installing it
[12:03] <derfbugzi> Does anyone know if there will be a dvd release?
[12:03] <zcat[1] > ajmitch_: 100Mbps minus whatever the webserver sucks up..
[12:03] <K|NgGh0sT> I installed nvidia drivers, and now it seems that my DPI is messed up, anyone know how to fix this?
[12:03] <bbrazil> derfbugzi: yes, we're still wating on it
[12:03] <ajmitch_> zcat[1] : a shame I'm not downloading then :)
[12:03] <kestas> how come the server and desktop cds are seperate? server is just desktop minus some packages right?
[12:03] <ompaul> jcz`,  that is an indication that something is very wrong even my slowest machine is nothing like that
[12:03] <derfbugzi> bbrazil, cheers
[12:03] <bbrazil> kestas: kinda
[12:04] <Linuturk> server has a completely different kernel
[12:04] <Linuturk> it's optimized to run on a server
[12:04] <ompaul> jcz`, okay do this: Ctrl+Alt+F1
[12:04] <khermans> kestas, i think you can type "server" from a desktop CD
[12:04] <ompaul> jcz`, log in and tell me when your in
[12:04] <siccness> dooglus, so the 'desktop' is both desktop/live cd?
[12:04] <kestas> Linuturk: you'd think they'd just put a different deb on a single cd
[12:04] <siccness> and alternative is just desktop/install?
[12:04] <kestas> Linuturk: a different deb for the optimised kernel
[12:04] <siccness> s/alternative/alternate
[12:04] <ukh> no, least popular is server-sparc, since it isn't there yet...
[12:04] <selinium> derfbugzi: There is one, look in the torrents http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[12:04] <bbrazil> siccness: alternate is text install
[12:04] <kestas> khermans: k
[12:04] <malte`> happy dapper day :D
[12:04] <jcz`> ompaul, ok im in
[12:05] <siccness> Ohhhh shi.....
[12:05] <siccness> :|
[12:05] <dooglus> siccness: desktop is live+install; alternate is a text based install
[12:05] <siccness> I'm glad I haven't downloaded anything
[12:05] <khermans> Linuturk, can you still use "server" from a desktop CD?
[12:05] <siccness> Thanks guys
[12:05] <K|NgGh0sT> I installed nvidia drivers, and now it seems that my DPI is messed up, anyone know how to fix this?
[12:05] <siccness> Heh :|
[12:05] <kestas> this day is like a million christmases in one
[12:05] <Linuturk> not anymore
[12:05] <mnk> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[12:05] <bbrazil> siccness: as long as you have the right arch, one can be changed to the other
[12:05] <twager> Can anyone tell me if it is ok to install a 32 bit linux  distro on a 64 bit system ?
[12:05] <mnk> what does LTS mean?
[12:05] <siccness> bbrazil, oh ok.
[12:05] <siccness> Long Term Support
[12:05] <dooglus> Long Term support
[12:05] <kestas> long term service
[12:05] <mnk> [sorry about all the qs] 
[12:06] <mnk> aah cool
[12:06] <bbrazil> twager: on amd64 or sparc64, yes
[12:06] <Fillado> what should you use to run a graphical app as root from a terminal?
[12:06] <kestas> service I say!
[12:06] <siccness> Support I say!
[12:06] <mnk> so it is upgraded then? :)
[12:06] <ompaul> jcz`, type this: sudo apt-get update
[12:06] <khermans> Fillado, gksudo
[12:06] <Celestar> where can I find the difference between the "desktop" and "server" versions?
[12:06] <Fillado> as i'm told sudo isn't a good idea
[12:06] <lmanul> kestas: Support :)
[12:06] <Fillado> ah thanks
[12:06] <ompaul> !root
[12:06] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:06] <mnk> I LOVE UBUNTU
[12:06] <mnk> :d
[12:06] <mnk> :D
[12:06] <khermans> sudo su root
[12:06] <isoTop> wow this channel is bigger than #gentoo
[12:06] <freddo> lts: Long Time for the Success:p
[12:06] <twager> thanks..I need a new mobo and 32 bit are quite rare
[12:06] <ompaul> Fillado, wrong :-) it is the best thing since sliced bread please read that link ;-)
[12:07] <flodine> cant find the mirror site for alternate iso
[12:07] <dxdemetriou> From http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/ is the final release? I haven't see the Dapper in the website and Update Manager.
[12:07] <jcz`> ompaul, im by dapper isnt online currently, does that matter ?
[12:07] <zcat[1] > I don
[12:07] <dooglus> ompaul: he means wrt running gui apps.
[12:07] <ompaul> jcz`, yeap
[12:07] <jcz`> ompaul, my dapper isnt online currently, does that matter ?
[12:07] <ompaul> jcz`, it needs to be
[12:07] <dooglus> ompaul: there are some here who claim that using sudo to run gui apps can mess things upo
[12:07] <zcat[1] > I don't think I've had anything through dist-upgrade for most of the day so I'm probably running what's on the CD now anyhow :)
[12:07] <Fillado> ompaul: ya what?
[12:08] <ompaul> dooglus, I am one of them :-) so noted Fillado your talking gui
[12:08] <Flannel> dooglus: that's correct.  use gksudo.
[12:08] <ompaul> Fillado your talking gui gksudo
[12:08] <evad> dooglus: how? sudo runs it as the root user - it works just fine and there cannot be (due to the way unix works) any bad side affects
[12:08] <Fillado> ya
[12:08] <dooglus> Flannel: do you have any example of how sudo can mess anything up?  like a repeatable case?
[12:08] <jcz`> ok, i have to switch cables, so i'll rejoin the channel using my linux box after i swap ethernet cables, be right back
[12:08] <ompaul> jcz`, let me give you instructions first
[12:08] <Flannel> evad: it's bugs in the qt library
[12:09] <Afief> Isn't there a liveCD/Install CD of ubuntu anymore?
[12:09] <jcz`> ok
[12:09] <dooglus> evad: I'm with you on this, yet people (like ompaul just did) continue to claim that sudo is a bad idea
[12:09] <thoreauputic> sudo can mess up ~/.ICEauthority on KDE, and .Xauthority
[12:09] <Fillado> Afief: Yes, that's the desktop one :)
[12:09] <khermans> dooglus, if there is a bad bug -- it could possibly hose your system
[12:09] <evad> oh
[12:09] <apokryphos> Afief: no, the setup has changed. There's an install+live CD (the desktop CD), and there's an old fashioned text install CD: the alternate CD
[12:09] <slackern> argh, so annoying that when you connect through places to a server that is down that it locks up almost everything till it times out.
[12:09] <dooglus> khermans: that's true of sudo and gksudo both
[12:09] <jcz`> ompaul, ok
[12:09] <khermans> dooglus, of course
[12:09] <zcat[1] > you can run gui stuff from the terminal as 'sudo foo', i don't think there's any major difference... if you already have a terminal open. For alt-F2 you'd use gksudo because it can ask for password through a window..
[12:09] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I've only seen sudo cause problems with KDE apps, personally
[12:09] <evad> I enable root on Ubuntu anyway, sudo passwd root really isn't difficult.
[12:09] <keiron> yo
[12:09] <ompaul> jcz`, sudo apt-get update <then > sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <then reboot> to enable the ethernet connection the cheap dirty way is > sudo dhclient
[12:10] <khermans> thoreauputic, kdelibs try to make sure you dont have setuid or setguid
[12:10] <keiron> i see 6.06 has been released. when can i expect apt to get updated so i can do the update through there?
[12:10] <Afief> apokryphos: so.... if i want to install, i have to boot into ubuntu live first?
[12:10] <dooglus> thoreauputic: does it still?  I think that was fixed some time ago
[12:10] <apokryphos> Afief: correct
[12:10] <Flannel> !gksudo
[12:10] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run qt applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[12:10] <Linuturk> 5 hours until I'm only seeding server i386
[12:10] <thoreauputic> dooglus: you may be right - this was last year IIRC
[12:10] <ryanakca> what packages should I install for a lamp server?
[12:10] <Rambo3> 1020 users
[12:10] <thoreauputic> dooglus: k3b was one offender I remember
[12:10] <ompaul> dooglus, I wish you had acked the fact that I agreed with you the statement I saw was without reference to gui - and I did concur that gk was the way with gnome
[12:10] <zcat[1] > thanks Flannel I didn't know that :)
[12:10] <dooglus> thoreauputic: k3b used to cause problems
[12:10] <Afief> apokryphos: is everything alright with that? i mean, i have some bad experience with some of those live-installers
[12:11] <thoreauputic> dooglus: right
[12:11] <Nookie> !libdvdcss
[12:11] <ubotu> I heard libdvdcss is (DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)) for i386. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for PPC and amd64
[12:11] <bbrazil> ryanakca: apache2, mysql-server, libapache-php4
[12:11] <apokryphos> Afief: it's the paciest/smoothest install I've ever done, probably
[12:11] <tubbie> !amarok
[12:11] <ubotu> hmm... amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/ - To install Amarok 1.4 on Ubuntu, see http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[12:11] <dooglus> ompaul: I'm still not convinced that there's any need to use gksudo as opposed to sudo though
[12:11] <bbrazil> !lamp
[12:11] <keiron> !dapper
[12:11] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[12:11] <Flannel> !tell ryanakca about lamp
[12:11] <Fillado> !arrrgh
[12:11] <ubotu> Fillado: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:11] <CrippsFX> does anybody know how to fix sound problems in ET? the output from ET says that "/dev/dsp" is busy, or in use ... although, I don't have any programs using sound open ...
[12:11] <Grunt> Hey I just wondered if there are any release parties happening in Birmingham, UK at all?
[12:11] <Afief> apokryphos: have the changed the partitioning scheme? that was about the only thing that bugged me in breezy
[12:11] <apokryphos> dooglus: there is; plain sudo doesn't set up the environment approprtiately for GUI applications
[12:11] <zcat[1] > twice the traffic up as down. cool... must be helping someone :)
[12:11] <keiron> when will the apt sources be updated to allow installation of dapper??!
[12:12] <bbrazil> Grunt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseParties
[12:12] <thoreauputic> Grunt: you have parties in Birmingham ? /me runs
[12:12] <dooglus> apokryphos: in what sense?
[12:12] <thoreauputic> Grunt: ;P
[12:12] <Beginer> Can I use dial-up for internet on Ubuntu 6.06 Live CD?
[12:12] <ajmitch_> zcat[1] : yeah, I can upload at a whole 50K/sec.. not really worth it :)
[12:12] <bbrazil> Grunt: there's one in Dublin if you want to fly over :)
[12:12] <thoreauputic> Beginer: yes
[12:12] <apokryphos> dooglus: many (particularly GTK, often I've seen) will be fine with the transition, but others you might have serious problems with. I've seen many cases where dcop sockets get mucked up, config files get incorrect permissions etc
[12:12] <Grunt> I just wondered the only party on the list was in London
[12:12] <jcz`> ompaul, doesnt dapper automatically detect my ethernet connections within 30 seconds after i physically  insert my ethernet connector into back of the mobo ?
[12:12] <xukun> !dapper
[12:12] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[12:12] <siccness> Hammer time!
[12:12] <dooglus> apokryphos: do you know of any case where it still happens?
[12:13] <dxdemetriou> The gksudo "update-manager -d" is not for beta?
[12:13] <apokryphos> dooglus: I'm pretty sure it can still happen, yes of course.
[12:13] <zcat[1] > !botsnack
[12:13] <ubotu> thanks zcat[1]  :)
[12:13] <tubbie> I have amarok 1.3.9 and I just added a new repo to get amarok 1.4. how do I update amarok?
[12:13] <Celestar> tadadada
[12:13] <dooglus> apokryphos: I'm looking for a specific example.
[12:13] <apokryphos> dxdemetriou: eh?
[12:13] <bvanaerde> !pony
[12:13] <ubotu> bvanaerde: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:13] <CrippsFX> tubbie, apt-get upgrade amarok
[12:13] <Fillado> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:13] <apokryphos> dooglus: well, fire up kate with sudo, play with things, change some settings, and then see, perhaps.
[12:13] <Verithrax> !botsnack
[12:13] <apokryphos> CrippsFX: no
[12:13] <ubotu> thanks verithrax :)
[12:13] <Verithrax> That's cute.
[12:14] <CrippsFX> apokryphos, why not?
[12:14] <Fillado> ^^Tubbie
[12:14] <dxdemetriou> apokryphos: I readed for this command is for beta packages. The Update Manager will not ask for upgrade to Dapper normally?
[12:14] <apokryphos> CrippsFX: to upgrade to latest amaroK you have to /msg ubotu amarok
[12:14] <cef> hrm, 6.8gb downloaded from the torrent
[12:14] <thoreauputic> dxdemetriou: it should now
[12:14] <dooglus> apokryphos: are you saying it only happens with KDE apps?  I don't have any of those
[12:14] <apokryphos> dxdemetriou: follow the same method for upgrading from rc. /msg ubotu rc
[12:14] <cef> 8.85 now.. moving fast!
[12:14] <apokryphos> dooglus: well I'm a KDE user, so I only have experience with KDE :)
[12:14] <Favorit> hi there guys
[12:14] <Beginer> How to set modem on a Live CD?
[12:14] <grimboy> !tell bvanaerde about ponie
[12:14] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: boo - hiss ;-)
[12:15] <Favorit> i got a well known maybe problem which i'm pondering how to solve.
[12:15] <alexey__> hi all !
[12:15] <CrippsFX> apokryphos, once the repo is added to /etc/apt/sources.list doing an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade amarok should do it.
[12:15] <apokryphos> CrippsFX: the main repositories do not have the latest version of amarok
[12:15] <Rambo3> lucky i got my copies  of official dapper from chinese blackmarket , before it was  released
[12:15] <apokryphos> but if you /msg ubotu amarok you can ge tit
[12:15] <apokryphos> get it
[12:15] <Favorit> i compiled 2.6.16 on ubuntu 5.10, amd64, and device mapper complains about dm-linear Device lookup failed
[12:15] <khermans> Rambo3, yeah me too
[12:15] <tubbie> thanks  :)
[12:15] <CrippsFX> apokryphos, I know that. He said that he's already added the repo for it.
[12:15] <thoreauputic> Beginer: System - Admin - Networking
[12:15] <alexey__> I am a SUSE Linux user and want to evaluate Ubuntu/Kubuntu. One question - is there a complete GNOME/KDE Ubuntu DVD?
[12:15] <Favorit> further on it just hangs on i/o
[12:15] <bvanaerde> grimboy: the bot is scared of me ;)
[12:15] <dooglus> apokryphos: yet you use gksudo?
[12:15] <apokryphos> CrippsFX: oh right; then you can just sudo apt-get install amarok, yes
[12:16] <grimboy> Heh
[12:16] <apokryphos> dooglus: no, I use kdesu. gksudo is the GTK-equivalent
[12:16] <CrippsFX> apokryphos, yep. Ya just missed that part of the message in the lines above :)
[12:16] <khermans> alexey__, not sure -- but you can easily install the kubuntu-desktop on top of Ubuntu
[12:16] <Beginer> But its not recognizeing it
[12:16] <kayde> How do i get gksudo "update-manager -d to update to dapper?
[12:16] <apokryphos> kayde: /msg ubotu rc
[12:16] <thoreauputic> Beginer: do you have a software modem?
[12:16] <uccoffee_loves_B> hi every one
[12:16] <uccoffee_loves_B> I m new to ubuntu
[12:16] <grimboy> Click the button at the top
[12:17] <uccoffee_loves_B> can anyone help me about setting up network?
[12:17] <uccoffee_loves_B> please
[12:17] <thoreauputic> Beginer: you need a hardware modem or a supported soft modem like a lucent
[12:17] <CrippsFX> uccoffee_loves_B, depends. what information do you have to give us about what you already have?
[12:17] <cmug> Is 6.06 available for download yet?
[12:17] <zcat[1] > is lucent still supported?
[12:17] <Beginer> Whats software modem?
[12:17] <derfbugzi> http://www.ubuntu.com/download is finally updated
[12:17] <apokryphos> cmug: yes; /topic
[12:17] <dooglus> kayde: you don't need the -d any more...  all you need to do is make sure you're up to date - click 'update' and 'install' and it should offer you dapper
[12:17] <derfbugzi> http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[12:17] <cmug> apokryphos, oh yeah, thanks
[12:17] <Healot> Beginer: http://linmodem.org
[12:17] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : i m using netgear WG121, and i m using ubuntu 6.06
[12:18] <twager> Yesterday I could get to the dapper channel ubuntu+1 Today it tells me invitation only.anyone know why ?
[12:18] <thoreauputic> Beginer: one usually designed for windows only ( braindead) see linmodems.org
[12:18] <derfbugzi> its gone
[12:18] <derfbugzi> this is drapper channel
[12:18] <bionic> ubuntu-6.06-dvd-amd64.iso, is this the final dapper release for amd64?
[12:18] <g-nome> still breezy
[12:18] <apokryphos> twager: this is dapper support :)
[12:18] <Roger_The_Bum> is it up ye-- W00TSICLE!
[12:18] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : the light infront of the WG121 are on
[12:18] <zcat[1] > twager: cos there's no edgy yet...
[12:18] <thoreauputic> Beginer: those modems require software drivers - real modems don't need drivers in Linux
[12:18] <Beginer> I got SoftV92 modem
[12:18] <twager> Sorry...Meant Breezy :-(
[12:18] <kayde> dooglus, click update? where?
[12:18] <Healot> http://linmodems.org/ even
[12:18] <jcz`> ompaul, also maybe im not shutting down dapper corectly, each time i click on system-quit-shutdown, the screen only gets to the point where it says something about halt
[12:19] <CrippsFX> uccoffee_loves_B, in the gnome system menu, choose administration>networking
[12:19] <Healot> Beginer: is it a PCI modem. or a serial modem?
[12:19] <thoreauputic> Beginer: time for a trip to linmodems.org then to see if it is supported or not
[12:19] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : and I tried the system > admin > networking > pick the WG121 > add SSID etc
[12:19] <flodine> is there a dapper channel
[12:19] <Beginer> Ok I'll try linmodems
[12:19] <derfbugzi> DVD Torrent File: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/release/dvd/ubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[12:19] <uccoffee_loves_B> and other happen
[12:19] <apokryphos> flodine: here
[12:19] <cute_bettong> w00ty
[12:19] <cute_bettong> XD
[12:19] <CrippsFX> uccoffee_loves_B, what happened?
[12:19] <zcat[1] > this is the dapper channel now!
[12:19] <kayde> dooglus, click update? where? i dont understans, ....
[12:19] <aLd> why can't i update with update maneger
[12:19] <derfbugzi> zcat[1] , yes
[12:19] <thoreauputic> Healot: Softv92 suggest a software modem
[12:19] <twager> Dapper channel was ubuntu+1
[12:19] <Celestar> :(
[12:19] <Beginer> Thanks
[12:19] <thoreauputic> ;)
[12:19] <CrippsFX> zcat[1]  is the dapper channel now!
[12:19] <Roger_The_Bum> why the dvd instead of the CD
[12:19] <tubbie> dapper is out now?
[12:20] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : and nothing happen
[12:20] <kayde> yeap
[12:20] <apokryphos> tubbie: /topic
[12:20] <zcat[1] > I am?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> tubbie: /topic, and yes :))
[12:20] <kayde> tubbie, yes :)
[12:20] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : doesnt feel like it, do i need a reboot like windows?
[12:20] <hyphenated> is there a link that describes the files a bit better? (eg: desktop, server, alternative) ?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: heh'
[12:20] <CrippsFX> uccoffee_loves_B, open up a terminal and type "ping -b www.google.ca"
[12:20] <flodine> i been running dapper from beta do i need to reinstall the final or just dist-upgrade
[12:20] <crimsun> In the Twenty-frist Century, we dislike reading the topic before we ask questions. We'd much rather have PONIES.
[12:20] <gnuyen> hrmm
[12:20] <negsoul> ow many megs wll it take to upgrade to new dapper?
[12:20] <gnuyen> since I don't want the "bleeding edge" version
[12:20] <negsoul> im using the rc
[12:20] <gnuyen> as much as the stable release
[12:20] <kayde> how do i upgrade to dapper in root?
[12:20] <Roger_The_Bum> OMG PONIES
[12:20] <ajmitch_> crimsun: surely not?
[12:20] <aLd> how do i update with update manager
[12:20] <GazzaK> Ponies - woo
[12:20] <apokryphos> kayde: /topic
[12:20] <derfbugzi> hyphenated, if you dont know what you want, chances are you want the desktop version
[12:20] <tubbie>  I don't have to reinstall. right? I have the flight 7 installed and updated everything
[12:21] <GazzaK> but I want a donkey
[12:21] <Tomcat__> PONIES!
[12:21] <GazzaK> donkey donkey donkey
[12:21] <hyphenated> derfbugzi: the description makes it sound like a live cd with an installer on it
[12:21] <Tomcat__> tubbie: Correct.
[12:21] <Roger_The_Bum> is there a reason that you would want the DVD?
[12:21] <thoreauputic> Zebras!
[12:21] <GazzaK> donkeys my friend
[12:21] <ompaul> jcz`, try logging out and doing ctrl-alt-f1 and log in and do this: sudo shutdown -h now<< if that fails try >-r <in place of >-h< when the machine starts to show signs of booting up hit and hold the power switch you should be safe enough - it would be better than your current situation anyway
[12:21] <gnuyen> is the only way to use update manager to upgrade to dapper by running it -d?
[12:21] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : unknow host
[12:21] <grimboy> negsoul: It says it's taking me 36 hours.
[12:21] <negsoul> grimboy,  xi
[12:22] <negsoul> so better download a new cd?
[12:22] <kayde> kayde@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[12:22] <kayde> Reading package lists... Done
[12:22] <kayde> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:22] <kayde> E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-base
[12:22] <kayde> kayde@ubuntu:~$
[12:22] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : terminal = application > accesories > terminal , right?
[12:22] <kayde> help me...
[12:22] <Almenfors> can i update from breezy to dapper somehow?
[12:22] <CrippsFX> uccoffee_loves_B, okay. when you do "iwconfig" is there an "eth1" or a "wlan0" ?
[12:22] <apokryphos> kayde: (i) do not flood the channel (ii) you do not need ubuntu-base specified there
[12:22] <rixxon> how do i make files hidden?
[12:22] <Tomcat__> gnuyen: I read the update manager will tell you automatically... might not work yet though... maybe tomorrow.
[12:22] <rixxon> or folder
[12:22] <apokryphos> Almenfors: /topic
[12:22] <grimboy> !tell Almenfors about upgrade
[12:22] <uccoffee_loves_B> eth1
[12:22] <ryanakca> Flannel: or in 6.06 (Dapper Drake) you have the option of choosing to install a LAMP setup at the inital Ubuntu installation screen.             I never got one of those... and I take it the howto is for breezy?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> kayde: ubunt-desktop will pull in what you need
[12:22] <gnuyen> alright I'll wait
[12:22] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : eth1
[12:22] <gnuyen> it's probably slow as hell now anyway
[12:22] <apokryphos> Almenfors: oh way, it was taken out :)
[12:22] <Rambo3> 10 answers in one : rtfm (or wiki)
[12:22] <hyphenated> ah, here's the one that explains desktop,server,alternate https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-May/000140.html
[12:22] <holden> wrong link: http://releases.ubutnu.com/releases/6.06/ on http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[12:22] <dooglus> rixxon: in Linux files are hidden if their name begins with a dot
[12:22] <thoreauputic> kayde: * ubuntu-desktop
[12:22] <kayde> apokryphos, ...?
[12:22] <threat> has it been released yet?
[12:22] <CrippsFX> uccoffee_loves_B, okay. try "iwlist eth1 scan"
[12:23] <Almenfors> apokryphos, hehe
[12:23] <ryanakca> Flannel: its php4 :S
[12:23] <ajmitch_> ryanakca: LAMP option is for the server install cd
[12:23] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : sorry, wth2
[12:23] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : sorry, eth2
[12:23] <onkarshinde> Congratulations everyone.
[12:23] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : sorry, eth2
[12:23] <kayde> thoreauputic, the whole code is?
[12:23] <jcz`> ompaul, ok
[12:23] <Rambo3> !tell Almenfors about upgrade
[12:23] <CrippsFX> uccoffee_loves_B, then replace "eth1" with "eth2"
[12:23] <thoreauputic> kayde:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:23] <aLd> running gksudo update-manager -d doesnt work for me
[12:23] <K|NgGh0sT> I installed nvidia drivers, and now it seems that my DPI is messed up, anyone know how to fix this?
[12:23] <takedown_> !easyubuntu
[12:23] <apokryphos> uccoffee_loves_B: no flooding please
[12:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[12:23] <rixxon> dooglus: what if i don't want to break the path
[12:23] <cute_bettong> ok um how do i order more than 8 cd;s of ubuntu at a time?
[12:23] <apokryphos> Almenfors: there :)
[12:23] <thoreauputic> kayde: that will pull in all the depenndencies for you
[12:23] <bbrazil> apokryphos: you've got upgarding twice
[12:23] <cute_bettong> i have a need for about 100 of the disks
[12:23] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : where to type?
[12:24] <kayde> thoreauputic, sweet thanks mate
[12:24] <CrippsFX> uccoffee_loves_B, in the terminal
[12:24] <cute_bettong> must upgrade my clients XD
[12:24] <apokryphos> bbrazil: heh, dang, it was there
[12:24] <nico> HI ..Does the new dapper include xgl and compiz yet ??
[12:24] <thoreauputic> kayde: no worries :)
[12:24] <linuxboy> I just upgaded to dapper last night. I tried again, butthere are no updates...
[12:24] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : app > acc > terminal , right?
[12:24] <CrippsFX> yes
[12:24] <ompaul> jcz`, you would be better asking the channel - I am doing other things and if I see it I can answer but I may not and you could be left sitting there
[12:24] <CrippsFX> uccoffee_loves_B, and leave the terminal open ;)
[12:24] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : no scan results
[12:24] <pekay> how can I update my KDE to 3.5.3?
[12:24] <CrippsFX> damn.
[12:24] <ajmitch_> CrippsFX: yo
[12:24] <Almenfors> apokryphos, got it as pm =)
[12:24] <uccoffee_loves_B> yohyo
[12:25] <CrippsFX> ajmitch_, word
[12:25] <Roger_The_Bum> pekay: #kubuntu (if it exists)
[12:25] <pekay> aha sorry
[12:25] <ajmitch_> CrippsFX: upgraded to dapper now?
[12:25] <CrippsFX> ajmitch_, do you know lots about wireless ?
[12:25] <CrippsFX> ajmitch_, I've been using dapper for a week and a half.
[12:25] <kayde> thoreauputic, it wont work...
[12:25] <ajmitch_> CrippsFX: using it in my laptop now
[12:25] <kbrooks> takedown_: easyubuntu works on Dapper
[12:25] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : any other thoughts?
[12:25] <nico> CrippsFX was that yes fot my question re xgl and compiz ??
[12:25] <thoreauputic> kayde: be specific
[12:25] <dooglus> apokryphos: that topic is unclear.  "USE THE ubuntu torrents DO NOT!!" is kind of a condradictory sentence
[12:25] <CrippsFX> ajmitch_, would you care to give uccoffee_loves_B a hand then?
[12:25] <kayde> thoreauputic, i would post what it says, but its to long..
[12:25] <thoreauputic> kayde: did you update first
[12:26] <kayde> thoreauputic, i pmd u
[12:26] <kayde> thoreauputic, how?
[12:26] <CrippsFX> nico, no, it wasn't, although it does apply.
[12:26] <pianoboy3333> Are there any parental control programs for ubuntu?
[12:26] <flodine> is the repositories from the rc the same as the final release repos?
[12:26] <ajmitch_> uccoffee_loves_B: what wireless card/chipset are you using?
[12:26] <zeR> pianoboy3333: what do you mean by that?
[12:26] <takedown_> kbrooks: i know, i just need a link to easyubuntu
[12:26] <uccoffee_loves_B> [ajmitch_] : wg121
[12:26] <Chousuke> hm
[12:26] <Pecisk> congrats everyone with Ubuntu 6.06 release!
[12:26] <thoreauputic> kayde: type this:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:26] <protocol1> thanks
[12:26] <apokryphos> dooglus: well yes, it's not fully syntactically correct English; /me didn't put that, but hey.
[12:26] <Chousuke> I don't even have a CD to burn Ubuntu on. :/
[12:26] <uccoffee_loves_B> [ajmitch_] : i m reading http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=5669296 . but dun understand what to do
[12:26] <nico> so i should add those one manually .. to get xgl and compiz working .. any plans for the future
[12:27] <thoreauputic> kayde: the channel is kind of busy right now :)
[12:27] <ajmitch_> uccoffee_loves_B: before trying iwlist, run sudo ifconfig eth2 up
[12:27] <pianoboy3333> zeR: like, programs that would block pr0n on a site...
[12:27] <ajmitch_> thoreauputic: just a little ;)
[12:27] <kbrooks> takedown_: #EasyUbuntu is the room for EU
[12:27] <negsoul> grimboy, still 36hrs?
[12:27] <ompaul> pianoboy3333, dans guardian and squid
[12:27] <xukun> ist save to upgrade to dapper?
[12:27] <martin__> Hello, does anybody else experience problem with OOo icons dissapearing?
[12:27] <pianoboy3333> yes
[12:27] <livevil> do you know a program for filesharing for linux ubuntu?
[12:27] <pianoboy3333> xukun: yes
[12:27] <ThE-LiGhT> can i remove old kernels? how
 you can use wildcards
[12:27] <dooglus> apokryphos: that's better
[12:27] <kayde> thoreauputic, woa!
[12:28] <thoreauputic> kayde: working?
[12:28] <xukun> What is the easy way to upgrade?
[12:28] <kayde> thoreauputic, its working....I think :)
[12:28] <apokryphos> ok, now time to revise for the exam ;-)
[12:28] <uccoffee_loves_B> [ajmitch_] : then?
[12:28] <ryanakca> why is it that "Listen 80" in httpd.conf makes apache run on ipv6 instead of ipv4?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> kayde: should be...
[12:28] <Flannel> ryanakca: the differences are trivial, setup is basically the same.
[12:28] <protocol1> hahah sick 1017 users in room
[12:28] <bcc|graf> livevil, frostwire
[12:28] <K|NgGh0sT> I installed nvidia drivers, and now it seems that my DPI is messed up, anyone know how to fix this?
[12:28] <aLd> i wan't to updat using update manager could someone point me in the right direction atleast
[12:28] <kayde> ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[12:28] <kayde> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:28] <livevil> thank'
[12:28] <uccoffee_loves_B> [ajmitch_] : it asks for password
[12:28] <apokryphos> aLd: /topic
[12:28] <ThE-LiGhT> can i remove old kernels? how?
[12:28] <uccoffee_loves_B> [ajmitch_] : is that my password?
[12:28] <nico> what should be the best version ..desktop or alternate ??
[12:29] <uccoffee_loves_B> [ajmitch_] : i typed my password in
[12:29] <martin__> Hey, does anybody else experience problem with OOo icons in teh program dissapearing?
[12:29] <cef> hrm, 28 GB down, 2TB to go *grin*
[12:29] <onkarshinde> ThE-LiGhT: use synaptic to remove old kernels
[12:29] <uccoffee_loves_B> [ajmitch_] : and back to flashing curser
[12:29] <apokryphos> nico: desktop is the standard one
[12:29] <xukun> how can I upgrade to dapper?
[12:29] <apokryphos> xukun: /topic
[12:29] <uccoffee_loves_B> [ajmitch_] : what's next?
[12:29] <nico> what is in alternate then ??
[12:29] <apokryphos> nico: the old classical text installer
[12:29] <ThE-LiGhT> onkarshinde, how can i find them there?
[12:29] <uccoffee_loves_B> oh
[12:29] <nico> okay .. will download desktop then .. from our internal mirrors ..
[12:30] <onkarshinde> nico: Desktop is basically live CD which can be installed also. If yoiu want to upgrade then use alternate CD
[12:30] <mydecay> hi all
[12:30] <uccoffee_loves_B> what to do next....
[12:30] <ajmitch_> uccoffee_loves_B: now, sudo iwlist eth2 scan
[12:30] <apokryphos> ubotu: alternate is <reply> The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with now Live session available.
[12:30] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[12:30] <ThE-LiGhT> onkarshinde, linux image?
[12:30] <onkarshinde> ThE-LiGhT: Search for linux-image
[12:30] <uccoffee_loves_B> [ajmitch_] : no scan result :(
[12:30] <apokryphos> nico: are you upgrading or installing?
[12:30] <nico> i have 5.10 at  home . . no net connection ...
[12:30] <flodine> i do i know if my dapper is up to date
[12:30] <nickm__> howcome ubuntu is only on a DVD now?
[12:30] <tubbie> is it posible to use multiple lyriyc source if a lyric is not found ?
[12:30] <ThE-LiGhT> onkarshinde, thx, is it safe?
[12:31] <Roger_The_Bum> !tell me about DVD
[12:31] <ajmitch_> uccoffee_loves_B: ok, I can't help terribly much since I don't know that driver too well, nor your network
[12:31] <rixxon> can i hide a file/folder from nautilus without braking the path (ie dotfile it)?
[12:31] <apokryphos> nickm__: it's not only on dvd
[12:31] <onkarshinde> flodine: If you are not getting any notification then it is uptodate
[12:31] <nickm__> apokryphos: the rest is just not up yet?
[12:31] <derfbugzi> Roger_The_Bum, what about dvd?
[12:31] <Bols> !tell me about DVD
[12:31] <Roger_The_Bum> why the DVD
[12:31] <apokryphos> nickm__: the DVDs are still synching, yes.
[12:31] <derfbugzi> !tell me about DVD
[12:31] <Roger_The_Bum> rather than the normal Cd;s
[12:31] <onkarshinde> ThE-LiGhT: Yes it is. You don't need old kernel. Remember the old version is 2.6.12 while new one is 2.6.15
[12:31] <apokryphos> You can /msg the bot guys :)
[12:31] <flodine> onkarshin how do i tell in a terminal
[12:31] <petrik> download talks about 6.06 but when you click on the links it gives you the badger
[12:31] <uccoffee_loves_B> [ajmitch_] : what is ndiswrapper
[12:31] <derfbugzi> its 3 gig, gotta be good
[12:31] <joshhendo> when is the date on this article going to be fixed? http://www.ubuntu.com/news/606released
[12:32] <derfbugzi> !DVD
[12:32] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[12:32] <uccoffee_loves_B> [ajmitch_] : it said it work with ndiswrapper
[12:32] <ajmitch_> uccoffee_loves_B: a way of using windows drivers for wireless
[12:32] <onkarshinde> flodine: Can you please ask again?
[12:32] <uccoffee_loves_B> [ajmitch_] : do i need it to run?
[12:32] <ThE-LiGhT> onkarshinde, cool.. i just want to free up some space for the upgrade
[12:32] <ajmitch_> and I've never needed to use ndiswrapper
[12:32] <uccoffee_loves_B> [ajmitch_] : or how do i try?
[12:32] <ajmitch_> uccoffee_loves_B: I don't know
[12:32] <rackerz> Was dapper released an hour ago?
[12:32] <nickm__> when is the official release time when everything will be ready?
[12:32] <onkarshinde> ThE-LiGhT: Wait
[12:32] <Roger_The_Bum> uccoffee_loves_B: no
[12:32] <nico> apokryphos .. it would be upgrading as i have 5.10 installed on Home pc .. it does not have net access ..
[12:32] <apokryphos> rackerz: or so
[12:32] <derfbugzi> ajmitch_, yes
[12:32] <rackerz> cheers.
[12:32] <onkarshinde> ThE-LiGhT: I though you already upgraded
[12:32] <Roger_The_Bum> nickm__, it's been released
[12:32] <flodine> onkarshin i deen on the beta for a long time do just do a dist-upgrade
[12:32] <uccoffee_loves_B> anyone know how to use ndiswrapper?
[12:32] <Bols> !DVD
[12:32] <apokryphos> nico: ok, then you'll want to upgrade from the CD, yup. You'll want the alternate
[12:32] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[12:32] <ajmitch_> derfbugzi: excuse me?
[12:32] <nico> but i don't mind re-installing at all ..
[12:32] <Roger_The_Bum> nickm__, type /topic
[12:32] <martin__> Hey, does anybody else experience problem with OOo icons inside the program dissapearing?
[12:33] <apokryphos> uccoffee_loves_B: /msg ubotu ndiswrapper
[12:33] <Roger_The_Bum> !install dvd
[12:33] <ubotu> Roger_The_Bum: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:33] <nickm__> just not all of the ISO's Roger_The_Bum
[12:33] <derfbugzi> ajmitch_, i meant rackerz
[12:33] <onkarshinde> flodine: Yes. 'Sudo apt-get update' and then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[12:33] <jessy_> somebody tried the DVD ? is this the version which can be used as an install cd or a live cd ??
[12:33] <nico> what would i need for xgl and compiz on Dapper ??
[12:33] <apokryphos> nico: if you want to reinstall then you can use desktop, sure.
[12:33] <apokryphos> jessy_: the DVD is desktop+alternate CD
[12:33] <Spaceraver> man... we need o split this chan to the release and general tech... too much is being said at one time...
[12:33] <jcz`> ompaul, by the way, i've already updated twice last week ... but it didnt seem to effect or solve my delayed login issue
[12:33] <jessy_> ok thanks
[12:33] <Roger_The_Bum> oh
[12:33] <onkarshinde> jessy_: both I guess
[12:33] <Roger_The_Bum> then it's just superfluous
[12:33] <flodine> onkarshin thxs very busy here i love it
[12:33] <derfbugzi> !alternate
[12:33] <nickm__> yeah, Roger_The_Bum, it may be available for download, just one DVD image or something, no use to most people :/
[12:33] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with now Live session available.
[12:34] <derfbugzi> ahh
[12:34] <rackerz> 1008 people :O
[12:34] <jessy_> ubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso this one is the right ?
[12:34] <apokryphos> Roger_The_Bum: or it isn't, since it gives the option of both.
[12:34] <rackerz> jessy, yes.
[12:34] <derfbugzi> jessy_, yes
[12:34] <onkarshinde> jessy_: yes
[12:34] <jessy_> kk let's download it
[12:34] <ThE-LiGhT> onkarshinde, nah..
[12:34] <ROBOd> hello guys
[12:34] <dooglus> so the alternate CD is a bootable live CD as well as the desktop one?
[12:34] <onkarshinde> ThE-LiGhT: How much space do you have left in /  ?
[12:34] <rackerz> dooglus, yes :)
[12:35] <thoreauputic> dooglus: no
[12:35] <ompaul> jcz`, I am by no means a gnome expert, however if your telling me (as you have done already) that you don't have the word "options" on the bottom of the screen then I wonder if you are running dapper, it should be visible fromwhere you log in
[12:35] <derfbugzi> the seeds for the dvd just vanished :noes:
[12:35] <apokryphos> dooglus: no, re: alternate: /msg ubotu alternate
[12:35] <dooglus> dooglus: maybe
[12:35] <Spaceraver> looks like the first couple of users have the cd downloaded by now... more parts...
[12:35] <zjimbo> why are all the link on the Ubu download page 404-ing?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> rackerz: no the alternate istext mode
[12:35] <onkarshinde> dooglus: No. Desktop is Live CD. Alternate is install CD
[12:35] <johan__> whats up with the dvd
[12:35] <ThE-LiGhT> onkarshinde, 629 mb or so.. no /home
[12:35] <dooglus> thoreauputic: did you seen ubotu's factoid:
[12:35] <dooglus> !alternate
[12:35] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with now Live session available.
[12:35] <ompaul> jcz`, in a terminal type: lsb_release -d : what does that tell you
[12:35] <thoreauputic> dooglus: yes, it has a typo
[12:35] <apokryphos> err, live cd available?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> dooglus: now should be "no"
[12:36] <cef> !ads
[12:36] <ubotu> Alternate = Old text-style installer, Desktop = LiveCD and graphical installer in one, Server = Server-class install (minimal)
[12:36] <derfbugzi> live cd is on all the cds as far as i understand
[12:36] <Krpano> anyone know what font is this ?... http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/39316-1.png ...
[12:36] <onkarshinde> ThE-LiGhT: 629 should be sufficient don't you think? Did you try to update? Did it give error about insufficient space?
[12:36] <derfbugzi> sorry, not the alternate
[12:36] <Spaceraver> zjimbo... because every man/woman and their cat wants ubuntu right now...
[12:36] <derfbugzi> but the oters
[12:36] <zjimbo> lol
[12:36] <thoreauputic> !alternate
[12:36] <ubotu> alternate is, like, totally, The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with no live session available.
[12:36] <ThE-LiGhT> onkarshinde, i'll check it... my friend needed 829 mb
[12:36] <scheuri> Spaceraver: well, and my dog and my grandma and...
[12:37] <rackerz> the text mode cd is bootable, i thought that was what he asked.
[12:37] <rixth> !install
[12:37] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[12:37] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I think thats right now
[12:37] <Spaceraver> ROFL scheuri
[12:37] <ROBOd> how to update to ubuntu 6.06 ?
[12:37] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: yup
[12:37] <apokryphos> ROBOd: /topic
[12:37] <ROBOd> without using the command line
[12:37] <rixth> ROBOd, best bet is to do a total reinstall.
[12:37] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: OK - just changed it :)
[12:37] <Grunt> BRB
[12:37] <apokryphos> rixth: no it's not
[12:37] <scheuri> ...and each and everyone of them needs to download it themself...;)
[12:37] <ROBOd> rixth: why? :)
[12:37] <onkarshinde> ThE-LiGhT: That depend on what all packages you have already installed. May be your friend installed mroe packages form repos.
[12:37] <Spaceraver> ROBOd... use apt-get dist-upgrade or dl the cd...
[12:37] <apokryphos> ROBOd: it isn't; a proper upgrade from stable -> stable is fully supported
[12:38] <jcz`> ompaul, well, it says 'welcome to Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Dapper Drake june 2006'
[12:38] <zjimbo> it's odd - I started downloading a while ago from releases.ubuntu.com and the speed hasn't dropped.
[12:38] <dooglus> thoreauputic: can you get him to miss out the "alternate is", like it did before?
[12:38] <ROBOd> Spaceraver: shall i download the livecd or the "normal" cd?
[12:38] <rixth> apokryphos, yeah, it kinda it for me anyway. All these updates have left orphaned files all over my filesystem, some functions such as auto-mounting of my camera don't work any more etc.
[12:38] <ROBOd> does the livecd allow me to upgrade?
[12:38] <Roger_The_Bum> yes
[12:38] <apokryphos> dooglus: yes, use x is <reply> somemessage   syntax
[12:38] <ROBOd> i suppose you guys have new repositories and such, for dapper
[12:38] <Roger_The_Bum> there is no live cd anymore
[12:38] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: of course if you want to be pedantic, it should be called "alternative" but whatever,
[12:38] <apokryphos> rixth: well, time to report bugs :)
[12:38] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I'll have another go
[12:38] <dooglus> ROBOd: the choice is desktop or alternate.  you want desktop
[12:38] <Roger_The_Bum> just the "desktop" cd
[12:38] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: that's soo altnerative oh my gosh
[12:38] <siccness> apokryphos, like what bugs?
[12:38] <onkarshinde> Roger_The_Bum: Yes there is. Only it has been renamed to Desktop CD
[12:39] <rixth> " The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer" does that mean 6.06 has a graphical installer?
[12:39] <Roger_The_Bum> and it has an installer
[12:39] <apokryphos> siccness: there aren't really many. Dapper is technically stable
[12:39] <Roger_The_Bum> rixth, yep
[12:39] <ROBOd> dooglus: so, i'll download desktop and it will nicely upgrade my stable ubuntu?
[12:39] <apokryphos> of course some bugs still slip through
[12:39] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: :)
[12:39] <Cas> !tell ROBOd about upgrade
[12:39] <rixth> Sweet! I can't wait 14 more minutes.
[12:39] <siccness> apokryphos, as expected though.
[12:39] <apokryphos> indeed
[12:39] <dooglus> apokryphos: there are over 10,000 open bugs against dapper aren't there?
[12:39] <siccness> I was just curious to know if there were any major flaws
[12:39] <ROBOd> Cas: i already so that, and i ain't liking that
[12:39] <Spaceraver> woot... now we might get a better rating at the sistro beginners shootout...
[12:39] <jcz`> ompaul, when i click on system- about ubuntu
[12:39] <apokryphos> dooglus: don't know
[12:40] <rixth> I'm getting 90kb/sec from releases.ubuntu.com. (I can max at 255kb/sec)
[12:40] <thoreauputic> !alternate
[12:40] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with no Live session available on it.
[12:40] <Cas> ROBOd: you mean the updatemanager -d ? what is the problem?
[12:40] <thoreauputic> OK
[12:40] <bionic> ubuntu-6.06-dvd-amd64.iso, is this the final dapper release for amd64?
[12:40] <zjimbo> Flaws? like yast in Suse?
[12:40] <apokryphos> rixth: torrents might be better now
[12:40] <apokryphos> zjimbo: yast is a flaw in suse?
[12:40] <apokryphos> erm...
[12:40] <asc> rixth: try the torrent, I'm getting 206 of 256
[12:40] <rixth> apecat, only 15 minutes left, may as well just let it finish
[12:40] <dooglus> apokryphos: did you see this?  http://launchpad.net/bugs/47195 :)
[12:40] <asc> *KB
[12:40] <rixth> Eeeeee! Now it is 33.
[12:40] <apokryphos> zjimbo: flaws of Ubuntu? Not BiArch compatible, not really as much polish IMO as some other distros.
[12:41] <ROBOd> Cas: i also want to have ubuntu 6.06 on my local disk, so i'll be able to do clean installs myself, if needed, without redownloading
[12:41] <bigfoot1> 1 month ago i upgraded from breezy to dapper beta .should i do anytthing today to go to non-beta dapper, or is it already on my system (via the daily software-updates)?
[12:41] <rixth> Can I start the correct against the semi downloaded ISO?
[12:41] <rixth> the torrent, rather
[12:41] <halibut> 6.06 LTS,  LTS = ?  is this the release I want?
[12:41] <rixth> halibut, yep
[12:41] <rsk> halibut: yes
[12:41] <rixth> halibut, LTS = long ter spport
[12:41] <rackerz> LTS = Long Term Support rite?
[12:41] <rackerz> guess so.
[12:41] <Fillado> Rixth: yeah
[12:41] <apokryphos> dooglus: nope, I don't think that means much at all.
[12:41] <morten__> is the alternate iso additional packages? from dapper 6.06?
[12:42] <negsoul> is wpa working ok now?
[12:42] <apokryphos> morten__: /msg ubotu alternate
[12:42] <ROBOd> thanks guys
[12:42] <ROBOd> gotta go, bye
[12:42] <halibut> I have a 64bit amd processor, should I get the 64bit ubuntu, I have heard a lot of comments like "64 bit is not ready for prime time yet" etc
[12:42] <berrum> hey! does anyone have experience with digital cameras and linux? need help
[12:42] <stephane> how can i get dapper drake?
[12:42] <stephane> a command in a terminal?
[12:42] <Spaceraver> !tell me about release
[12:42] <Fillado> Berrum: Plug it in :D
[12:42] <apokryphos> stephane: /topic
[12:42] <Pecisk> halibut: I think you should give it a shot :)
[12:42] <r4zz> http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[12:42] <kayde> thoreauputic, none of the options work...it wont let me downlod ANY of tthe way for daapper
[12:43] <Cas> ROBOd: i really don't understand you, if you now run breezy and want to update do it with the update-manager -d, if you want to install it on on a new pc download the cd,
[12:43] <eXistenZ> Is there a DVD version?
[12:43] <berrum> Fillado, hehe, already done that!
[12:43] <Lukketto> stephane: apt-get
[12:43] <petrik> I heard that if you have a second drive even if you don't ask it to touch it it will ruin it anyhow. Is there any thruth to that?
[12:43] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: yes, but I believe it's still synching on the mirrors
[12:43] <thoreauputic> kayde: be specific - what errors are you getting ?
[12:43] <rackerz> wow my download speed on torrents is kicking butt.
[12:43] <petrik> 6.06 that is
[12:43] <Fillado> Berrum: isn't it a Mass Storage Device?
[12:43] <Cas> petrik: no
[12:43] <halibut> petrik, nonsense
[12:43] <PeanutHorst> berrum: yup
[12:43] <derfbugzi> there are no seeders for the dvd at the moment :(
[12:43] <petrik> thank goodness for that
[12:43] <raquel> hola
[12:43] <kayde> thoreauputic, update manager, nothing, says my pc is up to daate...
[12:43] <stephane> yeah, apt get dapper drake?? doesnt work
[12:43] <PeanutHorst> mount it like  a USB disk
[12:44] <morten__> can anyone tell what the alternate iso is for?
[12:44] <PeanutHorst> adios, ubuntu users!
[12:44] <thoreauputic> kayde: did you read and follow the URL I gave you?
[12:44] <Cas> !tell stephane about upgrade
[12:44] <kayde> thoreauputic, and root says same thing
[12:44] <apokryphos> morten__: /msg ubotu alternate
[12:44] <kayde> thoreauputic, yes
[12:44] <Fillado> morten: if you have less RAM
[12:44] <protocol1> ahahha office space is funnier than crap
[12:44] <Fillado> than 192MB
[12:44] <kayde> thoreauputic, tried all the options
[12:44] <petrik> It's the 120GB drive I still need to tidy up and that I have not been able to get my two machines talking to each other for.
[12:44] <thoreauputic> kayde: you are doing something wrong :)
[12:44] <kayde> thoreauputic, yes :S
[12:44] <raquel> q pasa?
[12:44] <petrik> Hope networking is easier with 6.06
[12:44] <thoreauputic> kayde: it works fine if you do all the steps
[12:44] <Fillado> Morten: Read http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[12:44] <hyphenated> protocol1: I'm gonna go right ahead and ask you to come in on Sunday
[12:44] <Lukketto> stephane: apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:44] <protocol1> hahaha
[12:44] <halibut> will I be able to get nvidia drivers under 64 bit? will I be able to run 32 bit software as normal without running as root or something??
[12:45] <dooglus> morten__: the alternate install CD is for special cases (OEM, automation, LVM, RAID, etc.)
[12:45] <[zero] > How do I update?
[12:45] <Cas> Lukketto: update-manager -d is much more easier ;)
[12:45] <protocol1> hyphenated, looks like your having a bad case of the monday's
[12:45] <apokryphos> halibut: nvidia: yes; 32-bit software: as a general: no, ubuntu/debian is not biarch
[12:45] <halibut> Is Gnome faster under 64bit?
[12:45] <Cas> !tell [zero]  about upgrade
[12:45] <thoreauputic> dooglus: also low memory machines
[12:45] <apokryphos> halibut: yes
[12:45] <[zero] > thankx cas
[12:45] <raquel>  no me entero de naaa
[12:45] <thoreauputic> dooglus: < 192 MB
[12:45] <halibut> apokryphos, will I have significantly faster boot times?
[12:45] <Cas> halibut: here is is a little but also uses more memory
[12:45] <apokryphos> halibut: faster ish
[12:45] <Lukketto> Cas: much more ;) You can use system->admin->update ;)
[12:46] <Spaceraver> !es
[12:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:46] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I was just quoting from https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-May/000140.html
[12:46] <kerb> whats up with the tracker?
[12:46] <Spaceraver> cant handle the traffic
[12:46] <Pecisk> seems so
[12:46] <Lukketto> stephane: did you copy it?
[12:46] <hyphenated> protocol1: Well, I generally come in about 15 minutes late, I use the side door.. (can't remember the rest)
[12:46] <kerb> lol, just when I got a 25mbit server up to seed :)
[12:46] <thoreauputic> dooglus: fair enough ;) But the alternate CD should work better on low-memory machines for standard installs too :)
[12:46] <reiki> ubuntu+1 is invite only? (I just woke up)
[12:47] <kerb> reiki: closed until edgy opens
[12:47] <Frogzoo> is Dapper in da house?
[12:47] <ThE-LiGhT> onkarshinde, ok
[12:47] <reiki> kerb: ahh
[12:47] <ThE-LiGhT> Frogzoo, yeah!!
[12:47] <protocol1> hyphenated, and I sit at my desk and stare at nothing for about an hour!
[12:47] <Spaceraver> Frogzoo... look at the topic
[12:47] <protocol1> lol
[12:47] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I seem to recall seeing a discussion on ubuntu-devel list about problems with the desktop CD on low memory systems
[12:47] <Frogzoo> ThE-LiGhT: SHWEET!!
[12:47] <petrik> Just realised last CD I burned was on windoze. Now I have no more windoze this will be a test to see if breezy has CD writing set up correctly on this machine
[12:48] <Corey> woah
[12:48] <hyphenated> protocol1: last time I watched it, I laughed extra hard seeing Dr Cox (from Scrubs) as one of the Bob's
[12:48] <Corey> its really released !?
[12:48] <ska-fan> Which disk do I need when I want to upgrade from breezy and do have network access but want to take as much packages as possible from the disk?
[12:48] <thoreauputic> Corey: indeed
[12:48] <zjimbo> hm cancel at 12% to dump cd for dvd or keep going...
[12:48] <Corey> How can I upgrade from my current dapper installastion
[12:48] <ska-fan> traffic costs here
[12:48] <thoreauputic> ska-fan: alternate
[12:48] <thoreauputic> !alternate
[12:48] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with no Live session available on it.
[12:48] <berrum> Fillado, i dont know it is a mass storage device
[12:48] <thoreauputic> ska-fan: it has more packages on  it
[12:49] <r4zz> is the dvd worth waiting for?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> ska-fan: add it to synaptic or use apt-cdrom add
[12:49] <ska-fan> thoreauputic: ok. the old install cd is the new alternate cd?
[12:49] <Spaceraver> zjimbo... what would you need the dvd ver for... packages will become old fast
[12:49] <dooglus> r4zz: no
[12:49] <ThE-LiGhT> !desktop
[12:49] <ubotu> ThE-LiGhT: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:49] <thoreauputic> ska-fan: yup
[12:49] <ska-fan> thoreauputic: thanks a lot
[12:49] <Corey> Guys how do I update to dapper from my current dapper which I downlaoded 4 days ago
[12:49] <berrum> Fillado, its a digital ixus 700
[12:49] <Healot> the Desktop CD is like the LiveCD with installer option :-)
[12:49] <thoreauputic> ska-fan: no problem :)
[12:49] <r4zz> k... so http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso.torrent is the one I want right?
[12:49] <ska-fan> :)
[12:50] <Frogzoo> Corey: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:50] <kayde> thoreauputic, the one that involves pastebin, might work, how do i do it? what do i doo with that weird stuff?
[12:50] <protocol1> hyphenated, hahah peter gets promoted for blowing off
[12:50] <Healot> if you need LVM/RAID support, low RAM, customization, take the alternate-CD
[12:50] <Frogzoo> Corey: you may need to change your repos - not sure
[12:50] <thoreauputic> kayde: huh? I don't follow you ...
[12:50] <Corey> guys nothing updated
[12:51] <thoreauputic> kayde: I suggest you caome back when the channel is a bit less busy in a day or so :)
[12:51] <Frogzoo> Corey: check that you're using the release repos, not the beta ones - I think this would change
[12:51] <thoreauputic> *come
[12:51] <Spaceraver> Corey... then you dont need to..
[12:51] <kayde> thoreauputic, the stuff about pastebin: Upgrading by changing sources and the command line...
[12:51] <kayde> thoreauputic, ok
[12:51] <Corey> Frogzoo how do i change them
[12:51] <kayde> ?!!!!?!?!?!?!
[12:52] <kayde> frogzoo
[12:52] <kayde> wow
[12:52] <thoreauputic> kayde: you'll get more help when the release fever has calmed down a bit ;)
[12:52] <kayde> thoreauputic, :(
[12:52] <kayde> thoreauputic, ho well, se ya then
[12:52] <negsoul> you ppl are too excited with the new release
[12:52] <negsoul> go have sex
[12:52] <Bilford> no
[12:52] <kayde> !
[12:52] <ubotu> kayde: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:52] <thoreauputic> negsoul: or both at once?
[12:53] <Verithrax> We're Linux geeks. Come on.
[12:53] <r4zz> i second that no
[12:53] <negsoul> thoreauputic, it can be
[12:53] <negsoul> :p
[12:53] <dennis_> i just got my ubuntu disks am i obsolete already?
[12:53] <rixth> I have a girlfriend.
[12:53] <jcz`> haha so true ==>> <negsoul> you ppl are too excited with the new release
[12:53] <Frogzoo> negsoul: the gf says not until her lappie gets dapper :-(
[12:53] <rixth> dennis_, yes =(
[12:53] <Fillado> Berrum: Yeah looks like it should be as it works with Mac OS X
[12:53] <negsoul> Frogzoo, ill take care of her
[12:53] <negsoul> :P
[12:53] <jcz`> Frogzoo, dapper lapper ??
[12:53] <Corey> Frogzoo: how do I check if i have the right repos ?
[12:53] <negsoul> Frogzoo,  im joking!
[12:54] <Sampizcat> Hello all
[12:54] <jcz`> lala
[12:54] <Frogzoo> Corey: dunno - someone will know where the prodn repos are - or you could take a look with your web browser
[12:54] <rixth> I need to move 13gb of data between two partitions before I can upgrade =( It's gonna be a while.
[12:54] <Corey> it says they are 6.06 official
[12:54] <Frogzoo> Corey: well there u r - you're up 2 date
[12:54] <Sampizcat> Is this the place to ask a question about 6.06 and RAID?
[12:54] <rixth> Today has been a good and bad day.
[12:55] <rixth> Good = Dapper is released.
[12:55] <Corey> haha up to date 3 days ago :P
[12:55] <rixth> Bad = The Pirate Bay was shutdow.
[12:55] <Corey> stuff the riaa
[12:55] <Frogzoo> rixth: NOoooo.....
[12:55] <Krhis> Corey, they are Swedish.
[12:55] <rixth> Frogzoo, yah =( Swedish Police raided the datacenter.
[12:55] <zjimbo> rix_: who? how?
[12:55] <negsoul> jcz`, you're a programmer?
[12:55] <jcz`> can anyone tell me how i access my adjacent ntfs partition from dapper ?? i want to play a movie using that movie player thingee
[12:55] <ThE-LiGhT> onkarshinde, i need more 379 mb :(
[12:55] <Corey> well who ever got them
[12:55] <rixth> www.thepiratebay.org
[12:56] <Krhis> The Swedish Police?
[12:56] <jcz`> negsoul, no haha me noob
[12:56] <negsoul> jcz`, did you update daper?
[12:56] <negsoul> +p
[12:56] <jcz`> yes
[12:56] <jcz`> last week tho
[12:56] <Frogzoo> rixth: after all those uber cool email replies to legal threats
[12:56] <rixth> Oh wow, they changed the index page at TPB. Now it says they will be back up soon.
[12:56] <thoreauputic> Things are slowing down - we are below 1000 people now *grin*
[12:56] <Sampizcat> I'm having trouble with 6.06 and setting up RAID - I've managed to configure the software raid (raid is disabled in BIOS) and it's formatted the partitions (by the looks of things), but now it's just gone to a blue screen, and noing else is happening
[12:56] <jcz`> not in the last day or two
[12:56] <negsoul> jcz`, to the new release today?
[12:56] <exhale> whats the difference between the dapper and the 6.06 torrents?
[12:56] <negsoul> ah ok
[12:56] <jcz`> last week
[12:56] <negsoul> me neither
[12:57] <rixth> Frogzoo, my personal fave was "We've all heard the saying a few bad apples but come on" in response to an Apple suit.
[12:57] <leks> r there any edgy ift repos yet?
[12:57] <dennis_> i was a windows user and was pointed to ubuntu should i come back tomorrow for advice on this seems its busy?
[12:57] <zjimbo> rix_: thanks but I meant who shut them down?
[12:57] <Frogzoo> rixth: lol
[12:57] <negsoul> jcz`, check forums and mount
[12:57] <thoreauputic> leks: you're kidding , right?
[12:57] <jcz`> im so noob i stink
[12:57] <y2d2> anyone else having problems with update manager saying "system is up to date" even though they are obviously not updated to dapper drake?
[12:57] <leks> thoreauputic: no im not
[12:57] <GazzaK> dennis_: it might be wise!!!
[12:57] <dennis_> ok see ya tomorrow have fun
[12:57] <blckfx> hi
[12:57] <jcz`> negsoul, im hoping to just do an update
[12:57] <Sampizcat> Has anyone managed to install 6.06 with RAID using the LAMP option?
[12:57] <thoreauputic> leks: for heaven's sake - dapper only went official tody
[12:57] <jcz`> maybe tomorrow
[12:57] <thoreauputic> today
[12:58] <leks> thoreauputic: whatever?
[12:58] <Fillado> jcz`: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[12:58] <jcz`> will updating give me the lastest stable dapper ?
[12:58] <thoreauputic> leks: let the developers have a party at least ;)
[12:58] <thoreauputic> !ubuntuguide
[12:58] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead.
[12:58] <leks> theres always an actual Sid in debian, even when theres a release
[12:58] <leks> :)
[12:58] <thoreauputic> leks: that's debian, this is ubuntu :)
[12:58] <jcz`> Fillado, ohh good thx ! *huggie*
[12:58] <Fillado> oh well
[12:59] <ThE-LiGhT> i need to free up 379 mb.. any suggestions? old kernels or somthing?
[12:59] <Fillado> that bit works anyway :D
[12:59] <leks> thoreauputic: theyre much of the same
[12:59] <thoreauputic> leks: *sigh* the release model is different
[12:59] <zjimbo> hey guys what's better RPM or deb?
[12:59] <leks> i just want that CVS gnome hell
[12:59] <ThE-LiGhT> suggesstions*
[12:59] <leks> :-D
[12:59] <Sampizcat> ThE-LiGhT: /tmp maybe? downloaded and installed packages from up2date
[12:59] <blckfx> may i ask something?
[01:00] <jcz`> no
[01:00] <y2d2> "gksudo update-manager -d" seems to think im fully upgraded, but im still running breazy badger... any one have advice
[01:00] <exhale> no
[01:00] <Sampizcat> go for it blckfx
[01:00] <jcz`> haha
[01:00] <ThE-LiGhT> Sampizcat, /tmp - 1.9mb
[01:00] <zjimbo> hey guys what's better, vi or emacs?
[01:00] <blckfx> how can upgrading from hoary to breezy take 50 gb space?
[01:00] <venkatachar> what is the procedure to do dist-upgrade to 6.06
[01:00] <rixth> Edgy Eft is such a daft name.... why not call it Dodgy Dog?
[01:00] <thoreauputic> zjimbo: watch your step....
[01:00] <leks> is there a repo with gnome 2.15.2 for ubuntu?
[01:00] <Sampizcat> lol ThE-LiGhT. What about /var, are there packages in there from up2date?
[01:00] <rixth> Or Shify-Eyes Emu
[01:00] <Fillado> yes
[01:00] <negsoul> there should be girls here
[01:00] <zjimbo> sorry
[01:00] <Sampizcat> rixth:  or Horace the Horse?
[01:00] <venkatachar> what is the procedure to do dist-upgrade to 6.06?
[01:00] <rixth> negsoul, hold that though.
[01:00] <IB-> no more #ubuntu+1 ? :)
[01:01] <negsoul> rixth, you're a girl?
[01:01] <IB-> how much GB should i clear for ubuntu ?
[01:01] <assasukasse> how to install XGL on ubuntu with ati driver?
[01:01] <rixth> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/
[01:01] <AhmadH> Holy Horse
[01:01] <Bilford> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update  ?
[01:01] <ThE-LiGhT> Sampizcat, /var 289 mb... how can i check about up2date?
[01:01] <Zap42> any hints where i can find any dapper sparc (T1) server images?
[01:01] <Sampizcat> rixth ROFMAO
[01:01] <zjimbo> how can you tell there arnt any girls?
[01:01] <Bilford> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  ?
[01:01] <bigfoot1> one month ago, i upgraded to dapper beta via apt-get. I've been getting almost-daily Software Updates. Do i have to do anything today, or do i already have the Non-beta dapper on my pc?
[01:01] <Sampizcat> ThE-LiGhT:  just do a search for deb's and rpm's that you don't need
[01:01] <rixth> Edgy Eft should be the name of the unstable. 'Edgy' is not a good adjective
[01:01] <zjimbo> do you have a girl-dar
[01:01] <cef> Zap42: they're being held back
[01:01] <rukuartic> assasukasse: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto I think
[01:01] <Frogzoo> IB-: I'd recommend 20gig as comfortable
[01:01] <ThE-LiGhT> Sampizcat, cool.. thx
[01:01] <jcz`> girls dont have time for command line
[01:02] <GazzaK> I have a good Gaydar, and it is whooping here :p
[01:02] <IB-> k
[01:02] <Zap42> cef: quality issues?
[01:02] <bigfoot1> jcz`: you're a girl+
[01:02] <bigfoot1> L
[01:02] <IB-> now i just need the 2gb memory for vmware
[01:02] <bigfoot1> ?
[01:02] <y2d2> iv tryed sudo apt-get update & upgrade... obth are saying everything is fine
[01:02] <rixth> We're outnumbering #gentoo =D
[01:02] <negsoul> the easier way to encourage women to use linux is to have sex with a condom (a tux shape)
[01:02] <assasukasse> thanks
[01:02] <venkatachar> can anyone tell me what is the procedure to do dist-upgrade to 6.06
[01:02] <Bilford> sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:02] <zjimbo> jcz: so their too busy doing...?
[01:02] <thoreauputic> guys, #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter please
[01:02] <jcz`> zjimbo, wat u think ??
[01:02] <apokryphos> negsoul: geez; language, please.
[01:02] <rukuartic> Question: I just ran update/dist-upgrade and it only added one package. Was I just extremely up to date?
[01:03] <jcz`> sex + shopping
[01:03] <venkatachar> should i modify the sources.list?
[01:03] <jcz`> ofcourse
[01:03] <Frogzoo> !upgrade
[01:03] <ubotu> from memory, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[01:03] <assasukasse> This page does not exist yet.This page does not exist yet.
[01:03] <apokryphos> jcz`: stop
[01:03] <negsoul> apokryphos, i was just going directly to my way of thinking :X
[01:03] <y2d2> the sudo apt0get dist-upgrade just says im upgraded
[01:03] <leks> I WANT EDGY
[01:03] <leks> :'(
[01:03] <IB-> will ubuntu 6.06 run normally on a 500mhz computer ?
[01:03] <apokryphos> negsoul: that doesn't make it okay :)
[01:03] <rsk> IB-: what do you mean normally?
[01:03] <Chousuke> Do they yet have Apple powerbook suspend support on Dapper?
[01:03] <IB-> rsk: fast enough..
[01:03] <IB-> responsive enough
[01:03] <Cas> !tell assasukasse about xgl
[01:03] <Chousuke> it didn't work on breezy.
[01:03] <rsk> IB-: probably not
[01:03] <IB-> k
[01:03] <negsoul> thoreauputic, -> an op?
[01:03] <negsoul> :p
[01:04] <fr3drik> Is the torrent.ubuntu.com-tracker down?
[01:04] <thoreauputic> Chousuke: don't know -suspend works on iBook
[01:04] <venkatachar> should i modify the sources.list to upgrade to 6.06?
[01:04] <dabaR> Chousuke: yes.
[01:04] <negsoul> Chousuke, it doesnt for a tsunami neither
[01:04] <Zap42> IB-: if you dont have enough ram performance will depend on the speed of your disks
[01:04] <apokryphos> venkatachar: /topic
[01:04] <thoreauputic> negsoul: looks like it, doesn't it ?
[01:04] <Chousuke> dabaR: Are you sure?
[01:04] <IB-> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ doesnt work
[01:04] <LinuxJones> Even the Torrents are down
[01:04] <dabaR> Chousuke: you mean to make it go to sleep/
[01:04] <rixth> What version of PHP does the LAMP have?
[01:04] <IB-> Zap42: 128mb is prolyl not enough...
[01:04] <Verithrax> IB-, if you don't try to run Gnome, and instead run a lightweight WM, or tone down Gnome's eye-candy a lot, it might.
[01:04] <bionic> Im sorry to ask again, but ubuntu-6.06-dvd-amd64.iso, is this the final FULL dapper release for amd64? Thanks
[01:04] <Chousuke> dabaR: yeah.
[01:04] <negsoul> thoreauputic, just saw you removing it now
[01:04] <shriphani> guys where do i find the bittorrent meta file ?
[01:04] <apokryphos> bionic: yes
[01:04] <Zap42> IB-: yupp
[01:05] <rukuartic> IB-: you might like xubuntu, it runs xfce which is a lighter interface
[01:05] <IB-> i've got a 64bit cpu, should i go on ubuntu 64 or 32 ?
[01:05] <venkatachar>  /msg ubotu upgrade
[01:05] <Chousuke> dabaR: I have a 1.33GHz powerbook.
[01:05] <LinuxJones> shriphani, they don't seem to work atm
[01:05] <apokryphos> Does anyone have the torrent files available? I could host them temporarily
[01:05] <rob> gee the au mirror is a bit slow atm :)
[01:05] <bionic> apokryphos: appreciate it, thanks..
[01:05] <dabaR> Chousuke: yep, has been working for a while. Dunno whether they still have the right option in the shutdown menu, though. I have one right here too, talking to you from it. the newest powerbook.
[01:05] <thoreauputic> rob: use the torrents
[01:05] <assasukasse> !xgl
[01:05] <ubotu> I heard xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[01:05] <rixth> I will be seeding overnight.
[01:05] <IB-> what are the drawbacks to using ubuntu 64 ?
[01:05] <IB-> flash ? java ?
[01:05] <zjimbo> :-p I didn't know sexist stereotyping was allowed here...
[01:05] <Chousuke> dabaR: My powerbook isn't the newest one.
[01:05] <rob> thoreauputic, nah, I already have dapper installed, just updating
[01:05] <ajmitch_> IB-: pretty much just those two
[01:05] <rixth> IB- and w32codecs
[01:06] <thoreauputic> rob: then seed the torrent :)
[01:06] <Chousuke> dabaR: did your suspend work on breezy too?
[01:06] <IB-> and there isnt 32 emulation libs for them ?
[01:06] <rixth> Oh thats right, sorry.
[01:06] <leks> http://joelbryanonsoftware.blogspot.com/2006/05/5-ubuntu-common-hooker.html dat shit is brilliant
[01:06] <dabaR> Chousuke: heard of a live CD? aka desktop CD? you could use it to test. No it did not work in breezy
[01:06] <apokryphos> IB-: no, but you can make a chroot
[01:06] <thoreauputic> rob: if you  have an ISO of course
[01:06] <rob> I will probably soon
[01:06] <Chousuke> dabaR: hmmh.
[01:06] <apokryphos> unfortunately Ubuntu is not BiArch compatible [yet] 
[01:06] <IB-> so i guess for now i'll stick with 32 bit ver
[01:06] <Chousuke> I don't have any empty CDs to test :/
[01:06] <protocol1> hyphenated, peter's boss is funnier than s^%^
[01:06] <rukuartic> !ops
[01:06] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[01:06] <apokryphos> rukuartic: ?
[01:06] <rob> ?
[01:06] <Seveas> rukuartic, ?
[01:06] <thoreauputic> rukuartic: ?
[01:06] <rukuartic> leks
[01:06] <dabaR> Chousuke: ya, really, not much I can tell you..
[01:07] <thoreauputic> rukuartic: that's for emergencies...
[01:07] <Chousuke> dabaR: how about airport extreme?
[01:07] <rukuartic> my bad. I'll watch out i nthe future.
[01:07] <casanova_> the 64 -bit vrsion is n.i.c.e. but, it wosn't support most 32 -bit software, such as the Flash player, unless you do a few hax
[01:07] <r4zz> ?
[01:07] <ROBOd> hello guys
[01:07] <thoreauputic> rukuartic: don't use that factoid unless something is wrong
[01:07] <ROBOd> i have used the following tutorial: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:07] <IB-> yeah, got that, i'll stick with 32 for now
[01:07] <ROBOd> to get the new FF 1.5
[01:07] <ROBOd> how to undo the dpkg-divert?
[01:08] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: it tells you on the wiki page
[01:08] <y2d2> can any one tell me why gksudo "update-manager -d" isent upgrading me to dapper drake?
[01:08] <thoreauputic> !ff1.5
[01:08] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:08] <apokryphos> y2d2: are you on breezy?
[01:08] <y2d2> yes
[01:08] <Chousuke> so hmm
[01:08] <Frogzoo> lol
[01:08] <Cas> y2d2: is yor breezy up2date?
[01:08] <eXistenZ> thoreauputic, what mail client do you use
[01:08] <apokryphos> y2d2: well, what's the error?
[01:08] <McNutella> can I update using "software updates" GUI ?
[01:08] <y2d2> it says im up to date
[01:08] <thoreauputic> eXistenZ: sylpheed mostly
[01:08] <apokryphos> McNutella: for options see /msg ubotu upgrade
[01:08] <Chousuke> Dapper features combined livecd and installation?
[01:09] <IB-> will mark be here today maybe ?
[01:09] <apokryphos> y2d2: up to date? Are you sure dapper's not install?
[01:09] <souljas> Chousuke: yes
[01:09] <McNutella> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. does not exist LOL
[01:09] <y2d2> i used sudo apt-get update and upgrade
[01:09] <Chousuke> souljas: excellent
[01:09] <McNutella> needs the . taken outta that message
[01:09] <y2d2> my teminals say brezy badger
[01:09] <dabaR> Chousuke: works, however, still buggy, and I have come to a point where I will only use the drivers on a separate partition than my production one.
[01:09] <rsk> McNutella: it does
[01:09] <souljas> Chousuke:  also has a alternative cd for low memory machines and the such
[01:09] <Chousuke> dabaR: alright.
[01:10] <Bilford> y2d2, just replace all breezy with dapper in your source list
[01:10] <McNutella> ubotu has the . on the url link, that will take one to a page not in existance
[01:10] <apokryphos> y2d2: /msg ubotu upgrade for other methods
[01:10] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, McNutella
[01:10] <dabaR> Chousuke: however, my card is slightly diff from yours, afaik, so you may have better luck.
[01:10] <stylus> Err, how do I get all that graphical interface happening? It has nothing but a command prompt.
[01:10] <Chousuke> souljas: my machine has plenty of memory. 1.25GB ;)
[01:10] <apokryphos> Bilford, y2d2: there's a bit more to it than that. See /msg ubotu upgrade
[01:10] <y2d2> k, thanks guys, ill try that
[01:10] <eXistenZ> thoreauputic, I need to use a good email client
[01:10] <dooglus> how does one burn a .iso to a CD in xubuntu?
[01:10] <IB-> will mark be here today maybe ?
[01:10] <Bilford> ok
[01:10] <Chousuke> dabaR: it's unlikely I'll transfer completely to Ubuntu, but I'll have to check it out :)
[01:10] <dabaR> dooglus: right click burn to disc
[01:11] <dooglus> dabaR: right click where?
[01:11] <IB-> is he here now ? :)
[01:11] <dabaR> Chousuke: ya, very slick OS.
[01:11] <thoreauputic> eXistenZ: matter of taste - some use thunderbird, some evolution, some like mutt for CLI use
[01:11] <dabaR> dooglus: on the file
[01:11] <Mewshi> so... i'm liking this ubuntu thing... ^_^
[01:11] <stylus> How come it's just a stylus@place instead of a nice graphical login.
[01:11] <thoreauputic> eXistenZ: I like sylpheed :)
[01:11] <dooglus> dabaR: how do you mean?
[01:11] <eXistenZ> thoreauputic, I see :] 
[01:11] <stylus> ?
[01:11] <rsk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1074275#post1074275
[01:11] <rsk> anyone?
[01:11] <rsk> :|
[01:11] <Chousuke> dabaR: on x86 machines I'd have Ubuntu, but since I can run OS X on my powerbook, I don't have a real need for Ubuntu :)
[01:11] <TheMadman> anyone had success running k8v 64 bit motherboard with ATI graphics?
[01:11] <dabaR> dooglus: right click on the .iso file, and the menu will appear. then click the burn to disc option, and watch it work its magic.
[01:11] <rukuartic> apokryphos: I just ran both update/dist-upgrade and update-manager -d from dapper beta. If it doesn't upgrade much, am I using 6.06 final release?
[01:12] <no0ke> so dapper drake is now 'stable' ?
[01:12] <IB-> welp laters
[01:12] <chmod775> phew
[01:12] <dabaR> Chousuke: you must be either good with OSX, or just not use computers that much
[01:12] <apokryphos> rukuartic: which beta specifically? As in, when was the last time you upgraded?
[01:12] <apokryphos> no0ke: yes
[01:12] <GNAM> there are 3 dapper-dvd-i386.iso... what's kubuntu one?
[01:12] <thoreauputic> rukuartic: probably
[01:12] <chmod775> Is te gnome power manager working now
[01:12] <fr3drik> Woho, I'm uploading dapper with a total of 20 MB/s
[01:12] <apokryphos> GNAM: check /topic in #kubuntu
[01:12] <dooglus> dabaR: I downloaded the file in azureus, and now it's on my disk.  I can 'ls' in the directory.  if I right-click on it, it gives a menu "open terminal; open tab; copy; paste; menubar; and a few others.  nothing about burning
[01:12] <fr3drik> s/uploading/seeding
[01:12] <biberao> GNAM, KUBUNTU = KDE
[01:12] <chmod775> I have had problems with it ever since I upgraded it from breezy
[01:12] <chmod775> ?
[01:12] <Chousuke> dabaR: I'm the former then I guess, because I don't really fit into the latter category.
[01:12] <dabaR> dooglus: do you use gnome?
[01:13] <dooglus> dabaR: no, xubuntu
[01:13] <brasko> what's the command to update :)
[01:13] <chmod775> Is gnome power manager working properly
[01:13] <dabaR> dooglus: do you use nautilus?
[01:13] <chmod775> ?
[01:13] <dooglus> dabaR: no
[01:13] <dooglus> dabaR: I think that's part of GNOME
[01:13] <Cas> !tell brasko about upgrade
[01:13] <rsk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1074275
[01:13] <dabaR> dooglus: it is.
[01:13] <rukuartic> apokryphos: thoreauputic, err I can't quite remember which beta exactly. I installed it about a month ago
[01:13] <thoreauputic> dooglus: the right-click to burn is a nautilus thing
[01:13] <Fastly> is the LTS version the final release?
[01:13] <Frogzoo> so I tried "gksudo "update-manager -d" - but I get "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:17: FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet"
[01:13] <dabaR> dooglus: I am not sure of another method.
[01:13] <cy_> hello :)
[01:13] <rixth> releases.ubuntu.com appears to have died
[01:14] <apokryphos> rukuartic: well if you're on dapper then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will get you up to official, yes.
[01:14] <dabaR> dooglus: but, ask: How do I burn isos to a CD without nautilus?
[01:14] <dooglus> thoreauputic: yes, that's how I burned the breezy cd I think
[01:14] <Tidus> dabaR: install cdrecord
[01:14] <rsk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1074275
[01:14] <cef> rixth: it's not dead, but it's terribly slow
[01:14] <rukuartic> apokryphos: Ok, I was just makin sure. All that updated was pcmcia-cd or something :P
[01:14] <rixth> Can I start the correct against the semi downloaded ISO?
[01:14] <rixth> torrent, rather
[01:14] <Fastly> is Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) the final release?
[01:14] <thoreauputic> cef, rixth not surprisingly...
[01:15] <apokryphos> Fastly: yes
[01:15] <dabaR> Fastly: ?
[01:15] <cy_> apokryphos; can i easyli migrate my debian(unstable) system by changing the source.list and do a dist-upgrade ? or is there any guide howto move from debian to ubuntu ?
[01:15] <rsk> Fastly: no there will be more final releases :)
[01:15] <dabaR> there will be other releases
[01:15] <crazy_penguin> hi all!
[01:15] <mnk> hi all - i am thinking of buying wireless cards / routers for my desk top and laptop - which ones would u recommend that are known to 'just work' with ubuntu pls? i have heard the wireless isn't that good on linus
[01:15] <mdz> rixth: releases is a bit overloaded, but not dead yet ;-)
[01:15] <Bilford> how do you see what version /release you have
[01:15] <rukuartic> I was just hoping for a shiny "Welcome to 6.06" screen :P
[01:15] <Fastly> what does LTS stand for?
[01:15] <dabaR> Bilford: cat /etc/issue
[01:15] <rsk> long term support
[01:15] <rukuartic> Fastly: Long Term Support
[01:15] <brasko> Cas: thanks
[01:15] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : what does it mean by "Copy the appropriate files over to a directory on your Ubuntu computer (e.g. your Home directory) and install them in this order:"
[01:15] <Bilford> dabaR, ty
[01:15] <thoreauputic> !lts
[01:15] <ubotu> well, lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[01:15] <apokryphos> cy_: no, you'll likely encounter many problems. Upgrade from debian -> ubuntu is not supported at all; you'll need to do a full reinstall.
[01:15] <dabaR> Bilford: $20
[01:15] <uccoffee_loves_B> [CrippsFX] : what is my home dir?
[01:15] <Chousuke> whoa.
[01:15] <Chousuke> this torrent is speedy
[01:15] <cy_> apokryphos; thank you :)
[01:15] <uccoffee_loves_B> anyone can help
[01:16] <uccoffee_loves_B> what does it mean by " my Home dir " ?
[01:16] <rukuartic> uccoffee_loves_B: that'd be /home/(yourusername)
[01:16] <thoreauputic> uccoffee_loves_B: /home/yourusername
[01:16] <dabaR> I love when they put those three words in that order
[01:16] <Bilford> dabaR, lol
[01:16] <mnk> hi all - i am thinking of buying wireless cards / routers for my desk top and laptop - which ones would u recommend that are known to 'just work' with ubuntu pls? i have heard the wireless isn't that good on linus
[01:16] <Tidus> uccoffee_loves_B: /home/<username>
[01:16] <cef> Chousuke: lots of people seeding
[01:16] <uccoffee_loves_B> [thoreauputic] : thx
[01:16] <Chousuke> cef: yeah.
[01:16] <Chousuke> I'm getting 1MBps
[01:16] <Chousuke> <3
[01:16] <rukuartic> mnk: Linksys :P Works great.
[01:16] <rsk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1074275
[01:16] <rixth> I am getting 2 kn/sec.
[01:16] <rixth> kb, rather
[01:16] <dabaR> !wirelss
[01:16] <ubotu> dabaR: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:16] <Bilford> I have  Ubuntu 6.06 LTS \n \l
[01:17] <mnk> rukuartic - any linksys?
[01:17] <biberao> hey
[01:17] <mnk> !wireless
[01:17] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[01:17] <OmniD> Where is that torrent located
[01:17] <apokryphos> rsk: that's really not going to get you much help at all
[01:17] <biberao> how to make ubuntu work ok with WPA?
[01:17] <rukuartic> mnk: Hold up, lemme get the model number
[01:17] <thoreauputic> OmniD: /topic
[01:17] <OmniD> thanks
[01:17] <dabaR> OmniD: ubuntu.com/download
[01:17] <apokryphos> rsk: if there's a question, ask in here; if you need to provide further details, then link it in your post.
[01:17] <chmod775> !power
[01:17] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chmod775
[01:17] <rukuartic> mnk: wmp54g works great. As for the router, I like the wrt56g handles very nicely
[01:18] <rsk> sure
[01:18] <chmod775> Any boyd facing problems with the gnome power manager
[01:18] <Cas> !tell biberao about wpa
[01:18] <chmod775> ?
[01:18] <mnk> exclelent - thanks for that.
[01:18] <rukuartic> mnk: As for notebooks, what I did was take a LiveCD into the store and test them out to see if their internal wireless card worked
[01:18] <mnk> hmm ok
[01:18] <Cas> !tell chmod775 about anyone
[01:18] <rukuartic> mnk: And with the wireless card in the computer, make sure you learn how to use ndiswrapper. (I was using he PCI card, not the USB one)
[01:18] <biberao> doesnt work Cas
[01:18] <rsk> but im sure that wont help either
[01:19] <rsk> cause thats what i did first
[01:19] <dabaR> dooglus: did you read that?
[01:19] <crazy_penguin> i have some problems with the kernel/udev. at boot the system hangs for about 5 to 10 minutes and gives me the interrupt lost error. i tracked down that the error is comming from the second ide controller, but i'm pretty sure that's not hardware problem. any ideea anyone?
[01:19] <Cas> biberao: what part you have problems with?
[01:19] <mnk> exclelent - thanks for that.
[01:19] <rukuartic> chmod775: I was having a bit of problems. It has trouble changing the icon if I boot with the powercable unplugged. It still shows the icon for plugged in although it says batteries draining.
[01:19] <biberao> wpasupplicant tells me to remove keys
[01:19] <chmod775> hey Cas, I am facing problems with the gnome power manager it's acting funny, it does display how much charge I have in my batt properly, I did not face these problems with breezy
[01:19] <biberao> Cas,  wpasupplicant tells me to remove keys
[01:20] <McNutella> when I upgrade, do I have to reinstall all the codecs and programs I have already been using ?
[01:20] <biberao> Cas,  and many other things but i need to fix this later
[01:20] <rukuartic> McNutella: nope :P
[01:20] <biberao> i dont have my lappy here
[01:20] <McNutella> biberao, fabulous :)
[01:20] <Celestar> YAY!
[01:20] <rukuartic> McNutella: You might with windows though :P the beauty of linux
[01:20] <chmod775> rukuartic, and also it doesnt display the proper status of the batt charge. It also does'nt warn when there is too less batt power
[01:20] <McNutella> whats windows? rukuartic
[01:20] <rata> Hi, i am configuring a server with dapper, and i want to change locales, but dpkg-reconfigure locales does not do anything, and i checked that dpkg-reconfigure debconf says dialog. What am i doing wrong ?
[01:20] <biberao> McNutella, fabulous what?
[01:20] <vinboy> Hello,
[01:20] <vinboy> Nicolas Boccard wrote:
[01:21] <vinboy> > I use Texshop 1.35c on MACOSX 10.3.5 with a TeTEX installation from
[01:21] <McNutella> biberao, just a good thing, thats all
[01:21] <Cas> chmod775: take a look in malone for bugs, post a report if there is nothing about it
[01:21] <vinboy> > i-Installer. My tex file is
[01:21] <vinboy> > \documentclass[a5paper,10pt,oneside,notitlepage] {article}
[01:21] <rukuartic> chmod775: mine also doesn't soft shutdown when battery is low
[01:21] <rukuartic> !paste
[01:21] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[01:21] <vinboy> > \usepackage{fourier}
[01:21] <Frogzoo> upgrade to Dapper fails: http://pastebin.com/751031 ?
[01:21] <biberao> McNutella, but why did you tell me?
[01:21] <vinboy> > \begin{document}
[01:21] <vinboy> > some stuff with maths
[01:21] <vinboy> > \end{document}
[01:21] <vinboy> > Package: fourier 2004/03/02 1.2 fourier-GUTenberg package
[01:21] <vinboy> > (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty
[01:21] <vinboy> > Package: fontenc 2001/06/05 v1.94 Standard LaTeX package
[01:21] <rukuartic> vinboy: just give us a link
[01:21] <Frogzoo> vinboy: pastebin pls
[01:21] <vinboy> > (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def
[01:21] <chmod775> Cas, do u have the link to report bugs
[01:21] <vinboy> > File: t1enc.def 2001/06/05 v1.94 Standard LaTeX file
[01:21] <souljas> need more ftp's
[01:21] <vinboy> > LaTeX Font Info:    Redeclaring font encoding T1 on input line 38.)
[01:21] <vinboy> > ! Font T1/cmr/m/n/10=ecrm1000 at 10.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM)
[01:21] <dabaR> rata, did you try installing some other packages?
[01:21] <Mulder> what's the "alternative" isos i see?
[01:21] <Frogzoo> !ops
[01:21] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[01:21] <vinboy> >
[01:22] <vinboy> > Can anyone help ?
[01:22] <rob> ?
[01:22] <chmod775> rukuartic, I am just wondering if I get the isos and reinstall will that be fixed
[01:22] <vinboy> fourier.sty uses T1 font encoding by default, i.e. the fonts contain all
[01:22] <chmod775> ?
[01:22] <rukuartic> hoboy. poor ops =\
[01:22] <[ex] hungry-hobo> wow i guess we killed #ubuntu+1 since its invite only
[01:22] <Celestar> YAY!
[01:22] <vinboy> those accented letters and some more to support proper hyphenation.
[01:22] <apokryphos> Frogzoo: ?
[01:22] <Cas> !tell chmod775 about bugs
[01:22] <rob> vinboy, don;t paste
[01:22] <souljas> Mulder: for low memory systems and such
[01:22] <Frogzoo> apokryphos: thought vinboy was spamming
[01:22] <Seveas> rob, well, he can't anymore
[01:22] <neutrinomass> What is dapper-alternate ?
[01:22] <Mulder> souljas, oh. what optimisations do they have on them?
[01:22] <Celestar> sparc release for me :)
[01:22] <Cas> !tell chmod775 about bug
[01:22] <rukuartic> chmod775: No clue :p
[01:22] <rata> dabaR, like whats ? i check language-pack-<what i want> it is installed
[01:22] <rob> Seveas, yeah ;)
[01:22] <Tidus> chmod775: that's ok... the battery meter on my laptop dont work anyway.  as soon as you unplug it, it'll show 80% until it triggers the low battery alarm, at which time it'll jump down to 15%
[01:22] <rixth> Torrent is slow :(
[01:22] <marmite> is dapper available on any AU mirrors yet?
[01:22] <Tidus> chmod775: and it wont autoshutdown
[01:23] <jdub> Mulder: alternative is old-style installer; desktop is new live-cd installer
[01:23] <Xore> rob: netsplit 1000 users in #ubuntu for fun and profit! =)
[01:23] <jdub> marmite: doesn't look like it
[01:23] <Celestar> rixth: I download at 2.5MB/sec (http)
[01:23] <dabaR> marmite: do you guys have torrents there?
[01:23] <chmod775> Tidus, yes that's right
[01:23] <no0ke> lol, #ubuntu, #1 channel
[01:23] <watson540> im gonna miss tnhat channel, if only i hadnt killed irssi i would still be special and be in there
[01:23] <rob> Xore, fun and profit? :(
[01:23] <Tidus> chmod775: the hardware sensor in mine's busted... it does that in windows as well
[01:23] <Xore> ok, maybe not
[01:23] <OmniD> Sweet 3kb/s
[01:23] <rixth> Celestar, I am getting 7,8kb/sec =(
[01:23] <thoreauputic> dabaR: yes, there are torrents in .au :)
[01:23] <apokryphos> watson540: nope, there was a ChanServ clear
[01:23] <Xore> but, that would be one heckuva netsplit to witness
[01:23] <sarek> hi
[01:23] <Mulder> jdub, ah ok. so after install stage, they're identical?
[01:23] <rukuartic> dabaR: If there's not you could be the first one :P
[01:23] <jdub> Mulder: yeah
[01:23] <chmod775> I did'nt have these problems in breezy
[01:24] <Mulder> jdub, cheers
[01:24] <Celestar> rixth: because may I'm the only one who downloads that :P
[01:24] <jdub> Mulder: desktop CD is more fun :)
[01:24] <cef> heya jdub
[01:24] <jdub> morning cef
[01:24] <watson540> oh so i got kicked and didnt knoow it.haha
[01:24] <thoreauputic> jdub: congrats on release :)
[01:24] <rukuartic> Yeah, whats the difference between the desktopcd and the livcd?
[01:24] <Mulder> jdub, yeah i think i'll get desktop heh. i have 1.5gb ram, so not too fussy about it :)
[01:24] <Seveas> rukuartic, the desktop cd IS the live cd
[01:24] <biberao> are the dapper mirrors updated?
[01:24] <rukuartic> Seveas: Aha! <smart>
[01:24] <sarek> does anyone of you have a source for an ubuntu package of NetworkManager? My laptop crashed and I lost my sources.list :-(
[01:25] <capitanplaneta> viva ubuntu!
[01:25] <capitanplaneta> ra, ra, ra! :)
[01:25] <rukuartic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl/6666 I think sarek
[01:25] <Cas> !easysource
[01:25] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:25] <cached> !upgrade
[01:25] <Cas> sarek: ^
[01:25] <rukuartic> Oho! Thats cool.
[01:25] <cached> w00t downloading dapper at an amazing .15 KB/sec!
[01:26] <chmod775> I am totally pissed coz of power manager
[01:26] <sarek> rukuartic: ???
[01:26] <C_REATIVE> how can i share cable-net under ubuntu ?
[01:26] <sas171> hi, whats on dapper DVD new in compare to CD distrubution?
[01:26] <cached> is there a torrent
[01:26] <Seveas> I have 100k down in the torrent 
[01:26] <Mulder> us mirror is getting hammered right now i'm guessing
[01:26] <apokryphos> sas171: dvd is desktop+alternate
[01:26] <cef> so many people who grabbed the image then buggered off
[01:26] <Frogzoo> boo - upgrade needs execute on /tmp :p
[01:26] <Tidus> cached: use a torrent instead.
[01:26] <sduffy> Seveas: got 800kb down on torrent, and 600 up
[01:26] <cached> found one :)
[01:26] <apokryphos> cef: they might be installing 8)
[01:26] <sybariten> mmmmkay i just wanted to say, i just installed XFCE (via apt-get xubuntu-desktop) and i just cant believe how much better this sucky mac runs in that, compared to gnome ......
[01:26] <rukuartic> sarek: Follow the sourceomatic linkk. I'm totally wrong.
[01:26] <sas171> apokryphos: what alternate? for example?
[01:27] <apokryphos> sas171: /msg ubotu alternate
[01:27] <Seveas> nice
[01:27] <neutrinomass> Is Xubuntu not officially supported :-/ ?
[01:27] <rukuartic> sybariten: I actually ran xfce for a while, when I switched back to gnome--it was faster for things like firefox etc.
[01:27] <cached> just downloading the torrent takes forever
[01:27] <rukuartic> neutrinomass: #xubuntu I think
[01:27] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: it is now
[01:27] <sas171> apokryphos: thank you
[01:27] <dabaR> sybariten: heh, i am glad to hear that, but, use this channel for questions.
[01:27] <Seveas> if I have the complete iso I'll have some more up too
[01:27] <sarek> but these are the "official" packages, right? The version in Ubuntu 5.10 is quite outdated :-(
[01:27] <neutrinomass> apokryphos: Yeah n/m, the page I was reading was outdated ...
[01:27] <sduffy> Seveas: also mirroring it out from here, but havent seen to crazy a ramp up in traffic yet, def not pushing up near 2gb
[01:27] <Tidus> Seveas: now all you gotta do is get freenx working on dapper lol
[01:28] <Xore> mmmmm. freenx
[01:28] <rixth> "The reference implementation of the Java programming language from Sun Microsystems (Although this will be available in Ubuntu Dapper due to license changes.)" from Wikipedia. Will Dapper have Sun's Java by default?
[01:28] <marmite> so dapper-desktop-i386.iso is the livecd and installer in one?
[01:28] <rukuartic> So dapper server comes with a lamp install? That PHP or Perl?
[01:28] <rukuartic> marmite: yep ^^
[01:28] <apokryphos> marmite: yes
[01:28] <marmite> sweet
[01:28] <Seveas> Tidus, done that weeks ago...
[01:28] <LinuxJones> sduffy, if that't the x86 live cd could you post the .torrent so I can seed it ?
[01:28] <dholbach> rixth: no, not by default.
[01:28] <thoreauputic> rixth: not by default - but it's available in multiverse
[01:28] <zjimbo> how is xgl/compiz
[01:28] <capitanplaneta> is there an estimate on the number of ubuntu users, worldwide?
[01:29] <rukuartic> zjimbo: cool, and memory/processor hogging
[01:29] <apokryphos> zjimbo: /msg ubotu xgl
[01:29] <rixth> Ah okay. Also, in reference to rukuartic, is the LAMP PHP or Python or Perl? What versions?
[01:29] <rixth> !package malp
[01:29] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rixth
[01:29] <cef> not too bad.. according to the tracker, there's been 155 GiB downloaded
[01:29] <rixth> !package lamp
[01:29] <ubotu> rixth: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:29] <sybariten> one question though, i screwed up my locale settings - or whatever i should call the keyboard settings in this case, seems global for gnome and xfce anyhow - to the point where i cant use my swedish special characters. On the DamnSmall liveCD for instance, i start up with US keyboard each time and i exit X and do 'loadkeys se-latin1' and reenter X ....  on this box i couldnt do that now, from a terminal. Any ideas where i should change t
[01:29] <Fujitsu> !info lamp
[01:29] <lilo> congrats, all :)
[01:29] <Seveas> thanks lilo
[01:29] <neutrinomass> capitanplaneta: None that I know of...according to distrowatch it's the most popular distro....
[01:29] <zjimbo> ;-p fattening... the way I like it
[01:29] <apokryphos> thanks =)
[01:29] <Seveas> lilo, look at the number of users
[01:29] <thoreauputic> lilo: :)
[01:29] <lilo> Seveas: yep :)
[01:30] <Fujitsu> 1004...
[01:30] <lilo> Seveas: knew it had to happen :)
[01:30] <Fujitsu> A record, I believe?
[01:30] <Seveas> we beat #debian and in the same sweep took over the lead from #gentoo 
[01:30] <rixth> lilo, we're bigger than #gentoo =D
[01:30] <sybariten> rukuartic: ok, i doubt i will switch back though... we'll see
[01:30] <Fujitsu> Nice!
[01:30] <apokryphos> lilo: is there an all-time record?
[01:30] <thoreauputic> it was up to 1024 a while ago :)
[01:30] <dyn> hi all :)
[01:30] <ukh> well, #debian is leaving for OFTC anyway
[01:30] <Reg|ster> how can i update from 5.10 to 6.06??
[01:30] <lilo> Fujitsu: I believe this is the first time that you guys have been #1.... it's not unexpected, but it's pretty cool :)
[01:30] <apokryphos> yeah
[01:30] <grimboy> !lamp
[01:30] <lilo> I'm actually not sure what the record is
[01:30] <apokryphos> Reg|ster: /topic
[01:30] <lilo> but this is a record :)
[01:30] <apokryphos> yeah :)
[01:30] <lilo> ukh: I don't think they've been #1 for a while
[01:31] <rukuartic> lilo: are the logs mirrored somewhere? maybe someone could write a tidy perl script >>;
[01:31] <rata> dabaR, sorry, if you answer me i dont read you. Could you repeat which packages do you refer to ?
[01:31] <apokryphos> rukuartic: logs for this channel?
[01:31] <rukuartic> apokryphos: yep
[01:31] <dyn> i'm doing a clean install of 6.06.. approximately how long should it take to resize a 80Gb NTFS to 60Gb? it's been working for half an hour now and I'm slightly worried..
[01:31] <rob> !logs
[01:31] <ubotu> logs are at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[01:31] <apokryphos> rukuartic: /msg ubotu logs
[01:31] <tubbie> any one here have win xp installing using qemu?
[01:31] <rob> dam
[01:31] <sybariten> i believe in gnome you have a special setting for keyboard layouts and such ?  does xfce have something similar?
[01:31] <rixth> dyn, NTFS?
[01:31] <tubbie> installed*
[01:31] <dabaR> rata: I forgot what we were talking about
[01:31] <dyn> rixth: yeah to make some space on the hard dirve
[01:31] <Fillado> dyn: takes qtparted like a minute
[01:31] <rixth> dyn, I don't think Ubuntu has write support for NTFS.
[01:31] <rukuartic> apokryphos: Logs are rolling down the hill :P
[01:31] <Fujitsu> dyn, it could take a while if there are a lot of files.
[01:32] <Fujitsu> rixth, it can resize.
[01:32] <lilo> anyway, very neat :)
[01:32] <Fillado> unless your partiton is fragmented
[01:32] <rata> dabaR, :). I am triying to change locales for a server in dapper
[01:32] <rixth> Resizing is freaking scary.
[01:32] <jadaz87> does anyone know of a linux program that can modify fla or flash files?
[01:32] <_nano_> dyn: i think if the drive is fragmented it might take a while
[01:32] <dyn> Fujitsu: there's over 40G data on the ntfs
[01:32] <dyn> _nano_: so over 30 mins can be ok?
[01:32] <dabaR> rata: Oh. I am not sure, that is why I did not send any msgs
[01:32] <capitanplaneta> and the number of gnu/linux users worldwide?
[01:32] <rukuartic> I tried to resize my ntfs. It broke on the 6th try... Oh no...
[01:32] <Fillado> dyn: when did you last defrag it?
[01:32] <livingdaylight> is Dapper Official yet?
[01:32] <Frogzoo> tubbie: aye
[01:32] <Seveas> livingdaylight, yes
[01:32] <Fillado> yes livingdaylight
[01:32] <rukuartic> capitanplaneta: too many to count :P Lots of sysadmins/servers use linux
[01:32] <siccness> Yes livingdaylight
[01:33] <dyn> Fillado: it's the collegue's machine.. I think never is the right answer :)
[01:33] <cached> im connected to 3 seeds and 31 peers but im getting 435B/sec
[01:33] <livingdaylight> YeeeehaaaAAHH!!!
[01:33] <tubbie> Frogzoo, do you have sound working?
[01:33] <capitanplaneta> :)
[01:33] <dyn> Fillado: still, partman can do its job fine, nah?
[01:33] <rata> dabaR, ohh, dont care about it, lie me that i like it ;)
[01:33] <Fillado> yeah, just take quite a bit moving all the files forwad on the disc :)
[01:33] <Frogzoo> tubbie: haven't bothered to be honest
[01:33] <jadaz87> why does ubuntu+1 not exist??
[01:33] <capitanplaneta> i'm getting 230 Kbps on gnome bittorrent
[01:33] <dyn> Fillado: and also, at 'ps aux' I can see only 2 partman processes running, no ntfsresize..
[01:34] <livingdaylight> ok, GUYS!, how do i upgrade from Breezy then?
[01:34] <Frogzoo> tubbie: you _might_ do better with 0.8
[01:34] <Fillado> hmm
[01:34] <Fujitsu> jadaz87, there is no Ubuntu+1 at the moment.
[01:34] <Fujitsu> livingdaylight, see /topic.
[01:34] <IB-> where is a list that says the diff ebtween all the stuff at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ ?
[01:34] <SunTzuTech> livingdaylight: it's in the wiki
[01:34] <Fillado> personally i use system rescue cd + qt parted
[01:34] <grimboy> Hey, has anyone every tried to implement apt-get on top of bittorrent?
[01:34] <rukuartic> Any tutorials around on networkmanager?
[01:34] <cached> finally, down speed increasing
[01:34] <dooglus> it will be interesting to see whether that bug which resulted in ntfs partitions getting trashed really got fixed or not
[01:34] <cached> <3 ubuntu
[01:34] <rukuartic> dooglus: I ran into that
[01:35] <IB-> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso is what i need ?
[01:35] <Fillado> yes IB-
[01:35] <dodgyvile> hello again
[01:35] <jadaz87> does anyone know of a linux program that can modify fla or flash files?
[01:35] <dodgyvile> I just upgraded to dapper and there a few problems! 1. The internet connection keeps dropping out. It runs fine for maybe 5 mins and then just drops out. After a little while it reconnects again. Even now I think it may have dropped out. D'Oh
[01:35] <dyn> Fillado: so you do not recommend the 6.06 livecd's built in resize solution?
[01:35] <livingdaylight> Ok, GUYS, THX. Today is a very important day!
[01:35] <QPAD|warlock> How do I run a application trough shell_exec and save the PID?
[01:35] <pedrocr> update-manager should have the dapper upgrade availabe as soon as my mirror updates, right?
[01:35] <Frogzoo> 6 hours - 16 hours - 10 hours - it's like watching dials on a slot machine
[01:35] <dooglus> rukuartic: not with the final release though?
[01:35] <zbyte> 3.5
[01:35] <rukuartic> dooglus: no it was a beta.
[01:35] <thoreauputic> dodgyvile: yup, I didn't see your post saying that you had dropped out ;)
[01:35] <Fillado> well, i've never actually used it, i just use system rescue cd to resize the disk, then all i need to select is use the largest bit of free space
[01:35] <dodgyvile> All my connections (http, irc, bittorrent) just drop to zero
[01:36] <livingdaylight> This day will go down in the anals of history as one of the most important days in the evolution of mankind  :)
[01:36] <IB-> tnx
[01:36] <Fillado> less chance of screwing something up ;)
[01:36] <dooglus> Frogzoo: what are you doing?
[01:36] <baby> when i try to configure any file it gives an error like "C Compiler cannot create executables" how can i fix it?
[01:36] <amac> the servers are dead
[01:36] <dodgyvile> thoreauputic: I had to reconnect to irc.freenode.org :(
[01:36] <amac> heh
[01:36] <Frogzoo> dooglus: -> dapper
[01:36] <dyn> Fillado: i see your point :)
[01:36] <rukuartic> Frogzoo: If i had an actual 6.06 iso I'd put it up just for you. But I don't cuz I'm scared to tip the fragile ballance of bandwidth
[01:36] <DeanStl> evolution?
[01:36] <grimboy> I've just ran out of disk space when upgrading
[01:36] <QPAD|warlock> Anyone know how to run a application trough shell_exec and save the PID? <- ?
[01:36] <dooglus> Frogzoo: updating?  or downloading a .iso?
[01:36] <scheuri> livingdaylight: mark, is it you?
[01:36] <Cas> jadaz87: there is f4l(flash4linux) but i wouldn't recommend that
[01:36] <thoreauputic> livingdaylight: erm, slight exaggeration perhaps ;)
[01:36] <livingdaylight> scheuri: no, conrad
[01:36] <Frogzoo> dooglus: yep - updating - now I see my mistake, *sigh*
[01:36] <blastmanu> bonjour
[01:36] <LinuxJones> WTF there are over 1000 people in here :D
[01:36] <rukuartic> QPAD|warlock: Eeh... if you run the app and then ps aux | grep (ap name)
[01:36] <Dkt> Do Ubuntu have an inbuilt FTP-Program? (A client) In that case, which?
[01:36] <Frogzoo> LinuxJones: dapper's released today
[01:36] <jadaz87> Cas: why whould you not recommend it? lol
[01:36] !lilo:*! Congratulations to Ubuntu on Dapper Day!
[01:36] <jadaz87> !dapper
[01:36] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[01:37] <dyn> LinuxJones: it's a great day today, no wonder :)
[01:37] <livingdaylight> thoreauputic: nah...common!!!  ;)
[01:37] <scheuri> Dkt: gFTP
[01:37] <LinuxJones> I am loving it
[01:37] <thoreauputic> livingdaylight: heheh
[01:37] <jadaz87> wow
[01:37] <grimboy> jadaz87: Try running the real thing but with wine or crossover office
[01:37] <dooglus> Frogzoo: you'll probably find it's quicker to download the .iso, mount the image, and add the mountpoint as a repository, then update...
[01:37] <jadaz87> Dapper add 300 proplr
[01:37] <dodgyvile> When I first upgraded to dapper, the network icon in the top tray appeared to be a broken wireless connection (this comp's never had wireless) as opposed to a normal ADSL connection that was there before...
[01:37] <dodgyvile> congrats btw
[01:37] <Cas> Dkt: places->connect to server
[01:37] <kbrooks> dooglus: cool, eh?
[01:37] <dooglus> Frogzoo: the torrent was blazing - I was getting 450Kb/s for the last 20 minutes
[01:37] <Sanne> Dkt, if you use Kubuntu, you can use the konqueror filemanager as ftp client.
[01:37] <_nano_> how does dapper final treat broadcom wireless cards?
[01:37] <tubbie>  -
[01:37] <livingdaylight> ubuntu have changed their homepage
[01:38] <Mulder> _nano_, probably still out of luck
[01:38] <tubbie> \.
[01:38] <livingdaylight> www.ubuntu.com looks different now
[01:38] <rukuartic> Yeah I thought dapper was out in like, two/three months. Why'd it get released so early?
[01:38] <Frogzoo> dooglus: I know I know - but didn't realise the update would be so slow b4 I kicked it off :P
[01:38] <kbrooks> livingdaylight: WE KNOW
[01:38] <jadaz87> livingdaylight: it is REALLY nice
[01:38] <dodgyvile> I hate to be a party-pooper but this is really frustrating to me
[01:38] <kbrooks> livingdaylight: WE KNOW
[01:38] <thoreauputic> _nano_: you'll need the firmware
[01:38] <livingdaylight> GUYS, i only just realized! wow!
[01:38] <rukuartic> dodgyvile: whats gettin ya down?
[01:38] <thoreauputic> _nano_: see the wiki pages on wifi
[01:38] <QPAD|warlock> rukuartic, I have to save the PID when i start it, since there might be many with the same name
[01:38] <Mulder> _nano_, there's a project to reverse engineer broadcom wifi, but it's still in experimental development (driver that is)
[01:38] <kbrooks> rukuartic: that's 6.10.
[01:38] <livingdaylight> was that off today?
[01:38] <dooglus> Frogzoo: but even now, it's worth switching to the torrent
[01:38] <thoreauputic> Mulder: no, it's out
[01:38] <rukuartic> kbrooks: Ooooh.
[01:38] <livingdaylight> since when?
[01:38] <scheuri> kbrooks: you noticed that ubuntu.com looks diff...*bang*...;)
[01:38] <Mulder> thoreauputic, wow. when?
[01:38] <dodgyvile> rukuartic: I upgraded to dapper from (5.10) and now the network "resets" every few minutes or so
[01:38] <kbrooks> rukuartic: not 6.06
[01:38] <thoreauputic> Mulder: I have it on my iBook
[01:38] <hypnox> _nano_: worked fine for me with ndiswrapper
[01:39] <thoreauputic> Mulder: a few months now I believe
[01:39] <Frogzoo> dooglus: I can kill the upgrade without encouraging gremlins?
[01:39] <livevil> I've installed a program from synaptic, but I don't know from where I can execute it! Can You say me if there is a way to see the recent installed program?
[01:39] <rukuartic> dodgyvile: wireless? ...odd
[01:39] <hypnox> Frogzoo yes
[01:39] <Mulder> thoreauputic, ah heh. looks like i'm out of date then
[01:39] <QPAD|warlock> Any clues rukuartic ?
[01:39] <thoreauputic> Mulder: cafuego has debs for the firmware
[01:39] <dooglus> Frogzoo: yes.  you can even run the update again, and it will carry on from where it had got to in the download.
[01:39] <dodgyvile> rukuartic: No, ADSL modem, but when I first upgraded it stuck a broken wireless icon in the top bar.
[01:39] <Frogzoo> hypnox: cool, thx both u & dooglus
[01:39] <Aarin> hey i've got a little problem
[01:39] <grimboy> What does apt-get do if you run out of space?
[01:39] <dooglus> Frogzoo: (so long as you don't apt-get clean in the mean time)
[01:39] <grimboy> Help.
[01:39] <hypnox> grimboy: stops
[01:39] <dodgyvile> rukuartic: Could it be polling a non-existant wireless card?
[01:40] <rukuartic> QPAD|warlock: No, sorry... I'm just a newb-geek.... Oh, um... try right clicking and seeing if there's like a default connection setting
[01:40] <shriphani> man when are ubuntu shipping dapper drake!!!!!
[01:40] <dooglus> grimboy: apt-get checks available space before starting to download
[01:40] <DeanStl> apt-get new drive
[01:40] <dooglus> shriphani: about 2 hours ago
[01:40] <QPAD|warlock> Anyone know how to run a application trough shell_exec and save the PID, I have to save the PID when i start it, since there might be many with the same name? ANYONE?
[01:40] <rukuartic> QPAD|warlock: No I'm sorry, wish I had info for you
[01:40] <Aarin> my livecd detects my monitor badly, putting the worg refresh rate
[01:40] <QPAD|warlock> rukuartic np
[01:40] <shriphani> shiping ?
[01:40] <thoreauputic> Mulder: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/
[01:40] <grimboy> Err... well I'm out of space and it seems to be carrying on.
[01:40] <dooglus> shriphani: they're shipping it - um - electronically
[01:40] <Aarin> when is instaled is easy to resolve this, modifing the xorg.conf
[01:40] <Mulder> thoreauputic, cheers
[01:40] <tz273> Hey, pls help me! I want to configure my ethernet card to work with a fix ip ( 168.192.1.254 ) but I want it to get the NS servers from the DHCP service. NOW it's using full dhcp.
[01:40] <dooglus> shriphani: yeah, that's it
[01:40] <thoreauputic> Mulder: :)
[01:41] <Dimitris> Is there a dvd version available or just the cd image?
[01:41] <souljas> is the torrent naming ubuntu 6.06 dapper-desktop?
[01:41] <Beginer> Can I browse my Windows partitions with Ubuntu Live CD?
[01:41] <marmite> tz273: I don't think you can have it both ways
[01:41] <kbrooks> dooglus: no. theyre doing CDS too
[01:41] <thoreauputic> Mulder: the driver itself is in the default dapper kernel
[01:41] <dodgyvile> I think the regulars are too busy with the release
[01:41] <QPAD|warlock> Anyone know how to run a application trough shell_exec and save the PID, I have to save the PID when i start it, since there might be many with the same name?
[01:41] <marmite> tz273: unless you configure your dhcp server to give you that ip always
[01:41] <kbrooks> Beginer: bet ya can.
[01:41] <Seantater_> grimboy: so have you df'd?
[01:41] <Mulder> thoreauputic, 3rd party patch i'm guessing?
[01:41] <thoreauputic> Mulder: don't know, sorry
[01:41] <dooglus> QPAD|warlock: what's shell_exec?
[01:41] <Beginer> I got some erorr
[01:41] <grimboy> Sentater: Sorry, what?
[01:41] <cef> souljas: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%E2%96%B5h%7Fc%15%0F%CA%DB%8F%20%F5%92%5B%94%BA%1B%EC%BF
[01:41] <DeanStl> anyone got the latest madwifi to install?
[01:42] <jdmpike> poor ubuntuforums.org... it is just getting hammered!
[01:42] <Seantater_> grimboy: type df into a terminal -- see what happens
[01:42] <souljas> cef: ty
[01:42] <shriphani> so they aint shipping yet ?
[01:42] <thoreauputic> Mulder: I think it is probably in the restricted modules, but I'm not sure
[01:42] <tz273> marmite: I have to use a router. The only thing, i'v got is a web interface :D
[01:42] <QPAD|warlock> dooglus, runs an application ?
[01:42] <Mulder> thoreauputic, ah would make sense
[01:42] <rukuartic> Alright guys I need to head out. Mega congrats for gettin 6.06 out, hope I can help you guys beta the laptops in the future :)
[01:42] <dooglus> QPAD|warlock: it's a shell command?  or what?  where/how are you running it?
[01:42] <hypnox> shriphani they have to make a few cd's first..
[01:42] <sybariten> no ideas on locale/kbd problems in xfce?  or are you all wanking over your dapper installs ......
[01:42] <shriphani> they are shipping now !!!!!
[01:43] <mathieu> when i do /msg ubotu upgrade, i get a link to an out-of-date wiki page. how do i properly upgrade to dapper?
[01:43] <jadaz87> thoreauputic: what do they normally do? when they have a release? what do they change the channel to?
[01:43] <tz273> marmite: a program would be enough that gets the NS from the DhcP, all outhers are ok.
[01:43] <Grunt> is there a simple of upgrading from breezy to dapper I have downloaded the iso
[01:43] <QPAD|warlock> dooglus, a command to run shell commands through php
[01:43] <aLd> where in the wiki is the update info
[01:43] <jadaz87> mathieu:  gksudo "update-manager -d"
[01:43] <thoreauputic> jadaz87: they? We didn't change this channel - but there's no #ubuntu+1 until the next development branch is under way
[01:44] <jadaz87> aLd:  gksudo "update-manager -d"
[01:44] <hypnox> mathieu read the message more carefully
[01:44] <mathieu> jadaz87: that upgrade to the _development_ version of ubuntu... i thought dapper was released now?
[01:44] <QPAD|warlock> Any clues dooglus ?
[01:44] <jadaz87> mathieu: you do the same thing
[01:44] <thoreauputic> jadaz87: or did I misunderstand you ?
[01:44] <aLd> jadaz87: that doesnt work
[01:44] <Sub> mathieu, no it will upgrade to dapper currently
[01:44] <jadaz87> math the -d is for distrobution upgrade
[01:44] <dooglus> QPAD|warlock: oh, PHP - that'll be why I didn't recognise it.  I suggest you ask in a PHP channel...
[01:45] <jadaz87> thoreauputic: yes thank you for clarifying
[01:45] <mathieu> hypnox: i read it carefully. the wiki doesn't know it's released yet.
[01:45] <tz273> could you tell me, how to upgrade my ip address with ifconfig leaving all other records (gw, dns, mask) unchanged?
[01:45] <thoreauputic> mathieu: no it updates to the latest ( now 6.06)
[01:45] <dooglus> QPAD|warlock: or the PHP manual maybe?  I don't know PHP, it looks kind of ugly to me
[01:45] <mathieu> Sub, thoreauputic: ok
[01:45] <neutrinomass> Is the LiveCD installer much less reliable than the install cd ?
[01:45] <rohan> hi all
[01:45] <aLd> i know but it doesnt work
[01:45] <grimboy> dooglus: It is.
[01:45] <rohan> congrats on release :)
[01:45] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[01:45] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:45] <aLd> it just says im upo to date
[01:45] <ajayc> does the latest release have XGL on the disc?
[01:45] <ajayc> does the latest release have XGL on the disc?
[01:45] <tz273> QPAD|warlock: I'm advanced PHP programmer, but i don't find your question
[01:45] <rohan> LOL, thoreauputic
[01:45] <QPAD|warlock> dooglus, well, this is more ubuntu i guess. I need to know how to save a special pid.
[01:46] <rohan> ajayc: ask away
[01:46] <QPAD|warlock> tz273, can we talk for a second then ?
[01:46] <laughlin> how does one make changes to the kernel configuration in ubuntu?
[01:46] <neutrinomass> ajayc: No.
[01:46] <zanga> can someone please help me and tell me how to munt all my partitions
[01:46] <QPAD|warlock> regarding something else, Just to check if you have a solution or ont
[01:46] <ajayc> neutrinomass, do i have to download it?
[01:46] <Dreamglider> good day everyone :)
[01:46] <thoreauputic> zanga:  sudo mount -a  ;-)
[01:46] <scheuri> ajayc: there is a topic in the official forums at www.ubuntuforums.com
[01:46] <scheuri> or org
[01:46] <zanga> thoreauputin thats all ??
[01:46] <livingdaylight> no parties in London???!!!
[01:46] <laughlin> how does one make changes to the kernel configuration in ubuntu?
[01:47] <neutrinomass> ajayc: AFAIK yes.... don't take my word for it though (you might want ask in #ubuntu-xgl )
[01:47] <tz273> QPAD|warlock: sure, i try to go private
[01:47] <QPAD|warlock> tz273, got a second? #php.blabla
[01:47] <thoreauputic> zanga: your question needs refining I think :)
[01:47] <uccoffee_loves_B> ubotu:do i need to login as root to install ndiswrapper?
[01:47] <scheuri> ajayc: there is a topic in the official forums at www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:47] <ubotu> uccoffee_loves_B: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:47] <dooglus> QPAD|warlock: is there a 'fork()' call?  that's how you would usually run a child process and get its PID
[01:47] <livingdaylight> where is the Dapper party in London?
[01:47] <ajayc> neutrinomass, do i have to download it?
[01:47] <uccoffee_loves_B> do i need to login as root to install ndiswrapper?
[01:47] <mathieu> gksudo "upda... -d" says: your system is up-to-date
[01:47] <scheuri> uccoffee_loves_B: you need to have root rights to install software
[01:47] <neutrinomass> uccoffee_loves_B: ubotu is a bot, not a real person :) 'root' is not enabled on Ubuntu so I guess you will have to use 'sudo'
[01:47] <Fujitsu> uccoffee_loves_B, use sudo
[01:47] <tz273> QPAD|warlock: you read me in private?
[01:47] <thoreauputic> !ndiswrapper
[01:47] <aLd> sorry, so i tried what you said gksudo update-manager -d and bang nothing just says im up to date regardless
[01:47] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[01:47] <cef> hrm, running out of disk to hold .iso's for seeding torrents. time to burn files to disk to make room. *grin*
[01:47] <Grunt> sorry for asking the same question that has been asked a million times but to upgrade from breezy to dapper.  Do you just need to type gksudo "update-manager -d"?
[01:48] <mathieu> aLd: same here
[01:48] <neutrinomass> ajayc: As I said, I am not absolutely sure but I think yes.
[01:48] <Dreamglider> is there much diffrence in installing ubuntu 6.06 on a clean partion or doing a dist upgrade ?
[01:48] <QPAD|warlock> tz273, cant you gotta register, and i dont feel like registering atm, can you join #php.blabal ?
[01:48] <x3on> does anyone recommend using ReiserFS for / ?
[01:48] <QPAD|warlock> #php.blabla * - sorry for spam people.
[01:48] <neutrinomass> !upgrade @ Grunt
[01:48] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neutrinomass
[01:48] <thoreauputic> Grunt: that's about it, yes
[01:48] <neutrinomass> !update
[01:48] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neutrinomass
[01:48] <dooglus> mathieu: what if you don't use '-d'?
[01:48] <scheuri> ajayc: yes, you do need to download it...there is help at the forums! www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:48] <marmite> tz273: your router would be your dhcp server then I guess
[01:48] <Fujitsu> x3on, I always use it.
[01:48] <mathieu> dooglus: the same ..
[01:48] <neutrinomass> (who removed the update thing from ubotu ? )
[01:48] <QPAD|warlock> dooglus: What's 'fork()'
[01:48] <QPAD|warlock> ?
[01:48] <thoreauputic> !upgrade
[01:49] <Mulder> Dreamglider, there might be orphaned packages that arent removed (at least that was the case in debian - they might've fixed that now)
[01:49] <thoreauputic> !+upgrade
[01:49] <ubotu> I guess upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[01:49] <makelele> !upgrade
[01:49] <tz273> i'm there: but you're not :) php.blabal
[01:49] <Grunt> I have actually downloaded the live cd, is there an upgrade from that I can run?
[01:49] <dooglus> QPAD|warlock: it's a unix system call.  I expect there's something in PHP with a similar name
[01:49] <marmite> tz273: the there should be an option within that to configure a static ip address for your mac address
[01:49] <thoreauputic> that factoid is too long...
[01:49] <x3on> Fujitsu, cool. Swap doesn't require a special FS does it?
[01:49] <mathieu> i guess i'll just hack my source.list
[01:49] <morten__> downloaded and installed ati fglrx driver how do i change to this driver?
[01:49] <uccoffee_loves_B> invalid driver.... what the
[01:49] <makelele> would it be better to upgrade or reinstall
[01:49] <zanga> can someone give me a link to the mounting partition`s page ??
[01:49] <marmite> tz273: within the dhcp settings
[01:49] <tz273> marmite: I will search for, thx
[01:49] <Fujitsu> x3on, just set the partition type as swap.
[01:49] <Fujitsu> !tell zanga about mount
[01:49] <uccoffee_loves_B> why invalid driver.....
[01:49] <x3on> ya
[01:49] <uccoffee_loves_B> :(
[01:49] <theine> !automatix
[01:49] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[01:50] <rizo> hi does anyone know how to upgrade breezy badger to 6.06
[01:50] <marmite> tz273: ifconfig at a command prompt will tell you your mac address
[01:50] <Sub> yeag theine easyubuntu is better
[01:50] <Sub> !easyubuntu
[01:50] <Fujitsu> !tell rizo about upgrade
[01:50] <kbrooks> theine: ^
[01:50] <ubotu> hmm... easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[01:50] <neutrinomass> Is the classical install CD more reliable than the LiveCD installer ?
[01:50] <thoreauputic> !tell rizo about upgrade
[01:50] <Sub> neutrinomass, not really.
[01:50] <capitanplaneta> !easyubuntu
[01:50] <tz273> marmite, ok, that's no problem, thanks!
[01:50] <pm> is desktop cd another name for live cd? which iso i should choose for an ordinary installation?
[01:50] <uccoffee_loves_B> thx for teaching me the " sudo "
[01:50] <marmite> tz273: np
[01:50] <dooglus> QPAD|warlock: in PHP it's got the lovely, easy-to-remember name of "pcntl_fork"
[01:50] <Fujitsu> Hmm..
[01:50] <rohan> !easyubuntu
[01:50] <ubotu> I heard easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[01:50] <Sub> neutrinomass, the live cd installer lets you irc/browse the web while you install basicallu.
[01:50] <Ajay_> neutrinomass, do i have to download it?
[01:50] <rizo> tHANKS
[01:51] <grimboy> neutrinomass: only if you have less than 192MB of ram.
[01:51] <Fujitsu> SHould I update the upgrade page?
[01:51] <Frogzoo> any recommendations for a fast dapper desktop 386 torrent?
[01:51] <makelele> would it be better to upgrade or reinstall to Dapper
[01:51] <Big_T> hello
[01:51] <Sub> makelele, upgrade.
[01:51] <dooglus> QPAD|warlock: http://phpbuilder.com/manual/en/function.pcntl-fork.php
[01:51] <Fujitsu> makelele, it's fine to upgrade.
[01:51] <Grunt> sorry to be a pain but using the -d switch will upgrade it to the final version of Dapper, and not a rc?
[01:51] <neutrinomass> Sub : I've been hearing of lots of bugs related to it (there are tons of "ubiquity crashes" on LP) and I want to roll Cds for friends. Haven't used it myself though ...
[01:51] <Sub> Grunt, yes it will.
[01:51] <dooglus> Frogzoo: http://snurl.com/dapper
[01:51] <Mulder> Fujitsu, what about orphaned packages?
[01:51] <thoreauputic> Grunt: correct
[01:51] <Frogzoo> dooglus: cheers, thx
[01:51] <neutrinomass> Ajay_ : As I've already told you twice, I am not positive but I believe that yes, you will have to download it.
[01:51] <Fujitsu> Mulder, the upgrade tool handles it.
[01:52] <Mulder> Fujitsu, cool. that's a nice change from how debian was
[01:52] <Ajay_> sorry i got disconnected
[01:52] <Sub> neutrinomass, well I think for friends, the live cd will probably be more comfortable because the classic install is your typical debian text based install.
[01:52] <grimboy> neutrinomass: If you've been hearing them then surely the bugfixing team will of by now.
[01:52] <Grunt> thanks for the help and paticence guys
[01:52] <neutrinomass> Ajay_ : OK, no hard feelings. You might want to ask in #ubuntu-xgl though
[01:52] <scheuri> Ajay_: there are information of how to install XGL at the forums at www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:52] <makelele> has Dapper been released as yet and can i begin the upgrade ?
[01:52] <Jeeves_> makelele: Yes
[01:52] <thoreauputic> makelele: yes and yes
[01:52] <rohan> makelele: it might be slow, but yes it has been released
[01:53] <neutrinomass> grimboy: That would imply that all ubiquity bugs that I've seen have been closed. Anyway, I'll try grabbing the LiveCD and hope there will be no problems :)
[01:53] <thoreauputic> makelele: use a torrent if possible and leave it up after you finish
[01:53] <thoreauputic> makelele: URLs in the /topic
[01:53] <Ekushey> 6.06 released?
[01:53] <netgrabber> do i need proposed?
[01:53] <Frogzoo> !torrent
[01:53] <ubotu> See http://www.snurl.com/dapper
[01:53] <thoreauputic> Ekushey: yes
[01:54] <kimo> guys, how do I save iptables rules, so they're restored automatically ?
[01:54] <Fujitsu> Ekushey, yes.
[01:54] <zanga> !tell zanga about mounting hdd
[01:54] <pedrocr> to upgrade a server installation I should just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and s/breezy/dapper/g?
[01:54] <Ekushey> cool :)
[01:54] <Fujitsu> kimo, you need to write a script to do it.
[01:54] <zanga> !tell zanga about mounting
[01:54] <pm> what;s the difference between desktop and alternate? which one is closer to breezy's installation version
[01:54] <Fujitsu> kimo, look at the manpage, there is a way to make it export the rules.
[01:54] <kimo> pedrocr: no
[01:54] <uccoffee_loves_B> still invalid driver .....
[01:54] <HelmutG> shipit.ubuntu.com offers me (among other things) 1 Ubuntu CD for PC. Can you give me some information on what is on that CD? (As a Debian-user I am used to software does _not_ fit on 5 CDs, but I'd like to give my relatives a chance to switch from Windows. :-)
[01:54] <thoreauputic> pm: alternae
[01:54] <pedrocr> kimo: what then?
[01:54] <Fujitsu> pm, alrernate is the same as Breezy's.
[01:54] <thoreauputic> !alternate
[01:54] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with no Live session available on it.
[01:54] <rohan> !xgl
[01:54] <apokryphos> pm: /msg ubotu desktop ; /msg ubotu alternate
[01:54] <ubotu> I guess xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[01:54] <kimo> !upgrade
[01:54] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[01:54] <netgrabber> !proposed
[01:54] <ubotu> netgrabber: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:54] <kimo> pedrocr: got that ?
[01:55] <livingdaylight> where is the London Dapper Party?
[01:55] <morten__> anyone know where graphics drivers are configured?
[01:55] <Fujitsu> Hmm.
[01:55] <rohan> are xgl and compiz included on the official ubuntu cd ?
[01:55] <Fujitsu> morten__, what about them.
[01:55] <Seveas> no
[01:55] <Fujitsu> rohan, no.
[01:55] <hypnox> pedrocr: doing what you suggested works fine for me
[01:55] <kimo> pedrocr: got that ?
[01:55] <Fujitsu> !tell rohan about xgl
[01:55] <Seveas> rohan, they most likely never will be
[01:55] <pedrocr> kimo: yes, but it suggests I should do just that
[01:55] <HelmutG> Is there some site listing what is on the ubuntu cd?
[01:55] <apokryphos> they might be fore Edgy
[01:55] <pm> did breezy's live cd have an installation option as well?
[01:55] <zjimbo> The white guy standing next to the two kids on ubuntu.com looks kinda scary...
[01:55] <dyn> !tell dyn about xgl
[01:55] <morten__> I want to use ati fglrx , ive downloaded and installed drivers i think
[01:55] <Fujitsu> pm, no.
[01:56] <rohan> Fujitsu: i know that, thanks
[01:56] <rohan> :)
[01:56] <kimo> pedrocr: no, it's update-manager -d
[01:56] <pedrocr> kimo: no, that's for the graphical update
[01:56] <galotzas> !upgrade
[01:56] <ubotu> from memory, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[01:56] <mikey> can anyone tell me, if i run xserver-xorg-xgl or whatever it is, will that slow down my gpu if i want to run another opengl game?
[01:56] <zjimbo> it's probably Mark Shuttleworth.
[01:56] <sybariten> whats the adress to a swedish ubunbtu forum
[01:56] <pedrocr> kimo: I'm on a server, there's no graphical environment
[01:56] <kimo> pedrocr: not really
[01:56] <hypnox> pedrocr just change your sources.list and go ahead and apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:56] <Frogzoo> !torrent
[01:56] <ubotu> The 'official' Dapper torrent can be found at http://www.snurl.com/dapper
[01:56] <pedrocr> kimo: it has some text mode instructions
[01:56] <pedrocr> kimo: although they state you should install ubuntu-desktop which seems odd
[01:56] <rohan> someone needs to update - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[01:56] <viola> hi. does anyone know if the 6.06 desktop cd can be used to update breezy? or should i get the server one?
[01:56] <tarzeau> anyone got an idea how to tell update-grub to put lock entries to all menu entries but the first or the default?
[01:57] <rohan> tarzeau: did you do !popcon :)
[01:57] <Fujitsu> pedrocr, so you get any new packages.
[01:57] <tarzeau> !popcon
[01:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, popcon is popularity contest, a package which is installed by default on all ubuntu machines, but aint configured, and therefore not "running". Type this in a terminal to contribute: sudo dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest
[01:57] <dooglus> Frogzoo: that's the official 386 desktop torrent only.
[01:57] <pedrocr> Fujitsu: but I don't want a desktop, it's a server
[01:57] <Seveas> viola, you need the alternate for that
[01:57] <makelele> is this the correct link to go to in order to upgrade to Dapper
[01:57] <makelele> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[01:57] <tarzeau> rohan: wrong channel, man!
[01:57] <rohan> tarzeau: i know, i just wanted to poke you nevertheless ;)
[01:57] <Fujitsu> pedrocr, install the appropriate virtual package for that, then.
[01:57] <noodle> what's the difference between emacs and emacs21?
[01:58] <Fujitsu> ubuntu-server, or something.
[01:58] <tuxtheslacker> wow, snurl must be getting hammered....
[01:58] <pedrocr> Fujitsu: it should be installed, it's a standard "server" ubuntu install
[01:58] <dooglus> noodle: emacs is a metapackage which depends on emacs21
[01:58] <thoreauputic> noodle: the number 21 is on the end of one of them ? *g*
[01:58] <pedrocr> Fujitsu: my question was how to upgrade those
[01:58] <tuxtheslacker> does anyone have a non-official download they can verify iit works?
[01:58] <viola> Seveas, thanks. i'm having trouble with update-manager, it gives me a "could not calculate the upgrade" error. doi you think i might have the same error with the alternate version?
[01:58] <Chobo-Mog> hmm...I go to sleep and there's ~850 people in here.  I guess being at 1020+ is a good sign ^___^
[01:58] <Fujitsu> pedrocr, your best bet is to probably modify sources.list and dist-upgrade...
[01:58] <noodle> dooglus: ok i can install emacs-nox or emacs21-nox which 1 do i want?
[01:59] <Fujitsu> Chobo-Mog, certainly :)
[01:59] <dooglus> noodle: you want it without X?
[01:59] <noodle> dooglus: yea
[01:59] <pm> one more quetsion, i'm using dapper beta, should i upgrade via apt-get upgrade or is it advisiable to install the final release anew?
[01:59] <dooglus> noodle: what you really want is my home-made package of the latest emacs21 from CVS :)
[01:59] <Fujitsu> pm, apt-get dist-upgrade.
[01:59] <jdmpike> after upgrade, is anyone having freenx problems?
[01:59] <pedrocr> Fujitsu: yes, and I've done this with debian and knew how to do it. I just find it strange that there's no process for upgrading server installations
[01:59] <rixth> What is the md5 of the desktop iso?
[01:59] <rixth> i386
[01:59] <dooglus> noodle: there hasn't been an emacs release for a few years
[01:59] <Fujitsu> pedrocr, a number of people have noted this.
[01:59] <grimboy> Wow, I had a useless temp file that was taking up 5GB of space and filling up the hard disk
[02:00] <noodle> dooglus: lol just answer me pls -_- what's the difference between the two
[02:00] <tuxtheslacker> is there a way to upgrade with the CDs?
[02:00] <thoreauputic> jdmpike: sound issues after using freenx here, yes
[02:00] <Fujitsu> tuxtheslacker, only with the alternate or server CD.
[02:00] <makelele> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades - this link still says that this is beta software - could this be that this page has just not ben updated as yet ?
[02:00] <dooglus> noodle: there is no difference.  emacs is an empty package which pulls in emacs21.
[02:00] <kestas> tuxtheslacker: set the CD as the source
[02:00] <Fujitsu> makelele, it just hasn't been updated.
[02:00] <thoreauputic> jdmpike: I assume the package from breezy doesn't quite fit dapper :)
[02:00] <rohan> makelele: yes, the page is not updated
[02:00] <pm> Fujitsu: are you sure there won't be any problems if i upgrade this way?
[02:00] <kestas> tuxtheslacker: them distupgrade
[02:00] <jdmpike> thoreauputic, I can't log in remotely - any ideas?
[02:00] <dooglus> noodle: some day it will pull in emacs22 instead
[02:00] <thoreauputic> jdmpike: ah, that I haven't struck
[02:00] <kestas> tuxtheslacker: Ill be doing this myself once the download finishes
[02:00] <scheuri> noodle: aptitude show emacs-nox AND aptitude show emacs21-nox
[02:01] <Fastly> anyone else here experience problems with NetworkManager after internet upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[02:01] <tuxtheslacker> kestas, where's the sources disk?
[02:01] <makelele> rohan: so it is safe to perform those steps on that page to upgrade to the released version of Dapper ?
[02:01] <livingdaylight> is there an easy one click upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[02:01] <dooglus> noodle: if you want to see this, run: "apt-cache show emacs-nox"
[02:01] <makelele> Fujitsu: so it is safe to perform those steps on that page to upgrade to the released version of Dapper ?
[02:01] <grimboy> jdmpike: So ssh 127.1 doesn't work?
[02:01] <jdmpike> thoreauputic, ssh works fine - I am logged into it right now remotely
[02:01] <Frogzoo> Fujitsu: if you set the desktop cd in the repos, will apt-get upgrade work?
[02:01] <kestas> tuxtheslacker: the desktop install CD'll have the packages on it
[02:01] <Fastly> NetworkManager has stopped showing live wireless signals
[02:01] <Sampizcat> Hello all
[02:01] <Fujitsu> Frogzoo, the desktop CD doesn't have the packages!
[02:01] <Sampizcat> I have a question
[02:01] <livingdaylight> Guys, i cannot hold my breath any longer i need to upgrade to Dapper right now!
[02:01] <tuxtheslacker> what's the command to upgrade with apt?
[02:01] <livingdaylight> help!
[02:01] <Fujitsu> !ask
[02:01] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:01] <rohan> makelele: easiest way is to Press alt-f2 type gksudo "update-manager"
[02:01] <rohan> makelele: NOT the -d
[02:01] <Frogzoo> Fujitsu: great, thx
[02:01] <noodle> dooglus: ah ic
[02:02] <jdmpike> !pastebin
[02:02] <Fujitsu> tuxtheslacker, apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:02] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[02:02] <tuxtheslacker> kestas, so if I use it, it'll work?
[02:02] <pseudodeadkitty> Hehehe....the .iso is burning. :)
[02:02] <thoreauputic> jdmpike: sorry - I don't know enough about freenx to help I fear: i just used Seveas 's packages
[02:02] <shriphani> hey how do i upgrade to dapper from breezy
[02:02] <Sampizcat> Has the Dapper install "frozen" at "Installing GRUB boot loader" for anyone else?
[02:02] <hypnox> makelele, page just updated.
[02:02] <shriphani> cuz i ordered the cd
[02:02] <exhale> Sampizcat, nope... maybe its a bad disc?
[02:02] <tuxtheslacker> Fujitsu, it tells me it doesn't have to....
[02:02] <Fujitsu> !tell shriphani about upgrade
[02:02] <bimberi> ubotu tell shriphani about upgrade
[02:02] <livingdaylight> rohan; what does that do?
[02:02] <zanga> how do i mount windows partitions
[02:02] <sybariten> is the forum fkuced up _
[02:02] <jdmpike> Seveas, do you have any idea why I can't use freenx after upgrade?
[02:02] <noodle> scheuri: thx as well it does the same thing ^^
[02:02] <exhale> !ntfs
[02:02] <rixth> !windowspartiions
[02:02] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[02:02] <ubotu> rixth: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:02] <sybariten> ?
[02:02] <kestas> tuxtheslacker: I dont see why not, it'll have the debs on the CD somewhere, you just have to point to it in your sources.list. plus the sources.list points to the CD anyway in freshly installed ubuntu
[02:02] <Sampizcat> exhale:  crumbs, I can test the disk though right?
[02:02] <Fujitsu> tuxtheslacker, did you update your sources.list to dapper entries?
[02:02] <Seveas> jdmpike, did you upgrade freenx to the dapper version too?
[02:02] <pm> i think i'd better install official release anew
[02:03] <C_REATIVE_> !winfstab
[02:03] <ubotu> in fstab it should look **like** this:: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0
[02:03] <livingdaylight> Guys, i cannot hold my breath any longer. Is my name David Blaine?! NO!, i need Dapper right NOW!
[02:03] <Rambo3> use !tell instead
[02:03] <Fujitsu> kestas, the Desktop CD doesn't have any packages on it!
[02:03] <Fujitsu> livingdaylight, get it then!
[02:03] <livingdaylight> rohan, help me man!
[02:03] <kbrooks> livingdaylight: GET IT
[02:03] <zanga> Fujitsu can u help me install my windows partitions in linux ??
[02:03] <kestas> really? how does it install things then?
[02:03] <tuxtheslacker> Fujitsu, no i didn't, how would I do that?
[02:03] <rohan> livingdaylight: what is the problem ?
[02:03] <steko> Hello everybody
[02:03] <livingdaylight> HOW?
[02:03] <kestas> it must have the debs on there
[02:03] <rohan> livingdaylight: and, who are you ? :)
[02:03] <exhale> !ntfs
[02:03] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[02:03] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell zanga about mount.
[02:03] <Seveas> livingdaylight, read the fricken link in the topic...
[02:03] <Fujitsu> kestas, IT DOES NOT.
[02:03] <steko> I'm in trouble, I can't start OpenOffice
[02:03] <livingdaylight> i am someone who need Dapper right NOW
[02:03] <Sampizcat> exhale:  I might just let this wait overnight
[02:03] <Fujitsu> livingdaylight, THEN GET IT!
[02:03] <steko> It doesn't go beyond the splash screen
[02:03] <Sampizcat> see what it does
[02:04] <rohan> livingdaylight: yes, so download the iso, or upgrade from breezy
[02:04] <Seveas> kestas, the live cd installer copies the filesystem, no debs involved
[02:04] <livingdaylight> rohan: i want to upgrade from Breezy
[02:04] <livingdaylight> rohan, no not iso way
[02:04] <hypnox> livingdaylight https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[02:04] <Seveas> livingdaylight, again: READ THE FRICKEN LINK
[02:04] <kestas> Seveas: hmm I see, less elegant but faster
[02:04] <steko> I'm on dapper
[02:04] <Fujitsu> livingdaylight, see the link in the topic?
[02:04] <rohan> livingdaylight: so press alt-f2 type gksudo "update-manager"
[02:04] <viola> is anyone getting a "could not calculate the upgrade" error while trying to update from breezy through dapper via gksudo "update-manager"?
[02:04] <thoreauputic> !tell livingdaylight about upgrade
[02:04] <livingdaylight> seveas: i saw no link that tells how to upgrade from Breezy in the topic
[02:04] <rohan> livingdaylight: thats the most direct way
[02:04] <grimboy> livingdaylight, sudo "upgrade-manager -d"
[02:04] <livingdaylight> GUYS, thank you!
[02:04] <shriphani> hey guys will the update manager download the entire dapper package which is 718 MB ?
[02:04] <Doso> Oh happy day.. 6.06 dvd torrent is here ;] 
[02:04] <rohan> really, dont point to that wiki page ! -d might kill :P
[02:05] <robinl1> YAY!
[02:05] <Fujitsu> shriphani, the stuff it needs.
[02:05] <tuxtheslacker> synaptic will auto add a cdrom to the updates?
[02:05] <hypnox> rohan, that is now fixed
[02:05] <rixth> Okie, time to reboot and install Dapper final! (instead of upgrading). Wish me luck!
[02:05] <Fujitsu> tuxtheslacker, yes.
[02:05] <rohan> hypnox: ah, ok :)
[02:05] <Fujitsu> See you, rixth.
[02:05] <Patrick1> is kubuntu & ubuntu included in the dvd or are there 2 dvd images?
[02:05] <livingdaylight> which one upgrade-manager -d or gksudo '"update-manager"
[02:05] <shriphani> oh cool !!!
[02:05] <grimboy> rixth, Good luck
[02:05] <rixth> Back soon hopefully!
[02:05] <livingdaylight> I am consused again
[02:05] <Fujitsu> livingdaylight, the latter.
[02:05] <livingdaylight> i need to have the best way
[02:05] <Seveas> Patrick1, both are on the same dvd
[02:05] <Patrick1> ah nice, thx
[02:05] <sybariten> can anybody here search on the ubuntu forums ?
[02:05] <Seveas> livingdaylight, gksudo "update-manager -c"
[02:05] <tuxtheslacker> 2 hours left on the download.... it needs to hewwy!
[02:06] <kestas> so just to clarify; can you update from a CD?
[02:06] <galotzas> the ubuntu forums is down ?
[02:06] <tuxtheslacker> I ahve a question... can someone hlep me to completely remove picasa?
[02:06] <livingdaylight> seveas: huh? c?
[02:06] <rohan> ubuntu has got nice servers and bandwidth .. for example, the day suse 10.1 was out, opensuse site was absolutely b0rked
[02:06] <bimberi> kestas: yes, the "alternate" cd
[02:06] <Frogzoo> !torrent
[02:06] <tuxtheslacker> I need to reinstall... it broke it.
[02:06] <capitanplaneta> if I run gksudo "update-manager" without the -d, no upgrade is available
[02:06] <livingdaylight> I need the Truth on this
[02:06] <sybariten> if i remove the locales package and reinstall it, do i run the risk of getting for instance Firefox in swedish?? i only want the swedish keyboard, i DONT want to run "swedish programs"
[02:06] <Fujitsu> kestas, yes, but not the Desktop one!
[02:06] <kestas> tuxtheslacker: depends how you installed it
[02:06] <kestas> Fujitsu: k
[02:06] <tuxtheslacker> kestas, a .deb package.
[02:06] <Sampizcat> What's the difference between the server and alternate versions?
[02:06] <grimboy> capitanplaneta, run it with it then.
[02:06] <capitanplaneta> ok
[02:07] <rohan> Sampizcat: server wont give x and gnome like alternate
[02:07] <grimboy> Sampizcat, The server has demons useful for serbing
[02:07] <tuxtheslacker> sudo dpkg -r picasa still leaves remnants because apt-get install picasa breaks.
[02:07] <Frogzoo> !torrent
[02:07] <ubotu> Torrent ubuntu-6.06-desktop-386.iso found at http://www.snurl.com/dapper, for other architectures see: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/6.06 Note: to upgrade, you need the 'alternate' .iso - the desktop iso is install only
[02:07] <capitanplaneta> I guess I should remove the extra repositories automatix introduced on my list before upgrading
[02:07] <grimboy> Sampizcat, Like lamp straight out of the box, (even thought php sucks and mysql isn't ACID complient)
[02:07] <Sampizcat> apparently, "alternate" is used if you want to do RAID partitioning (which I do), but then I was able to setup sw RAID with the server version - wth?
[02:07] <Frogzoo> any complaints to !torrent ^^^ ?
[02:07] <rohan> alternate is ROCKING, cos it has gcc, unlike the desktop cd :P
[02:07] <monk_> hi, i have a problem with hotkeys for my acer travelmate laptop, on FN+F5 it crashes (using ubuntu 6.06 LTS)
[02:08] <tuxtheslacker> Package picasa is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:08] <kestas> tuxtheslacker: how does it break? did you get rid of config files too?
[02:08] <tuxtheslacker> what does that mean?
[02:08] <tuxtheslacker> kestas, I did a purge.
[02:08] <tuxtheslacker> a remove and then a purge.
[02:08] <Sampizcat> Ah smeg. Stupid program, I think it's broken.
[02:08] <Fujitsu> capitanplaneta, automatix may cause issues with an upgrade.
[02:08] <rackerz> Anybody know why the Ubuntu forums are so slow?
[02:08] <kestas> rackerz: think about it
[02:08] <wheelswitch> rackerz, because they are getting hammerd
[02:08] <surface> rohan: i tot alternate is used for upgrade
[02:08] <Frogzoo> rackerz: I'm guessing same servers as the repos probly
[02:08] <capitanplaneta> Fujitsu: thx, I'll remove automatix first, then
[02:09] <Fujitsu> surface, it can be.
[02:09] <rohan> surface: yes, it is
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker> kestas, if you want, I can send you the strace?
[02:09] <rackerz> yeah they are being hammered i just noticed this, Total Users Online: 1554
[02:09] <rackerz> Total Members: 372
[02:09] <rackerz> Total Guests: 1182
[02:09] <Fujitsu> capitanplaneta, it will likely cause issues even after removal.
[02:09] <rohan> because the desktop cd doesnt have .deb's unlike the alternate one
[02:09] <kestas> tuxtheslacker: I wouldnt know what to do with it, Im not sure what the prob is
[02:09] <tiCo89> thank you for the new release :-)
[02:09] <capitanplaneta> Fujitsu: omg! :)
[02:09] <surface> Fujitsu, rohan : can alternate cd install on fresh partition too?
[02:09] <rackerz> What are the main differences between the dkestop cd and alternate?
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker> kestas, which is why strace would help ;-)
[02:09] <Exter-C> I have some questions regarding future plans for Dapper as a commercial distribution, Is this the right place?
[02:09] <Fujitsu> surface, of course!
[02:09] <robinl1> is downloading from ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ illigal? I did.
[02:09] <livingdaylight> my sytem is upgrading as we speak - 35 mins to go!
[02:09] <rohan> Exter-C: yes
[02:09] <capitanplaneta> I will clean up my repositories list
[02:09] <surface> Fujitsu: cool
[02:09] <Sampizcat> rackerz:  The desktop CD is like a live cd
[02:09] <thoreauputic> !alternate
[02:09] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with no Live session available on it.
[02:10] <Fujitsu> robinl1, it's not recommended.
[02:10] <livingdaylight> seveas: i'm so excited man!
[02:10] <robinl1> why isn't it recommended?
[02:10] <rohan> livingdaylight: did you start the update ?
[02:10] <robinl1> I did, is there any difference?
[02:10] <Fujitsu> As it's generally old/really new (pre-stable).
[02:10] <livingdaylight> rohan: YeS! i'm so excited!
[02:10] <robinl1> it's not..
[02:10] <robinl1> the real one?
[02:10] <Fujitsu> Although, if you get the right one, it's OK.
[02:10] <surface> thx ubotu
[02:10] <pseudodeadkitty> It's ready. It's off to install Dapper on a clean partition- wish me luck. :)
[02:10] <robinl1> DAMN, then i have to reinstall AGAIN
[02:10] <Fujitsu> Why?
[02:10] <rohan> robinl1: why ?
[02:10] <robinl1> well, i installed ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[02:10] <rackerz> Yep, see you in abit guys. I'm off to install ;)
[02:10] <robinl1> from the pol
[02:10] <robinl1> pool*
[02:10] <Fujitsu> robinl1, when did you get the image?
[02:10] <scheuri> robinl1: NO, you dont!!
[02:11] <Fujitsu> There have been a couple of versions.
[02:11] <robinl1> Today.
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker> mmap2(0xfa5f0000, 131072, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS|MAP_NORESERVE, -1, 0) = 0x7bee0000
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker> munmap(0x7bee0000, 131072)              = 0
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker> 
[02:11] <Seveas> robinl1, so? then you simply upgrade...
[02:11] <Sampizcat> Does Alternative have extra RAID features of server?
[02:11] <grimboy> livingdaylight, just wait till you run out of disk space and half of the install fails.
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker> anyone know how i would go about fixing that?
[02:11] <Chobo-Mog> lol so many files on the BT tracker
[02:11] <surface> emmm that means desktop version have GUI installation
[02:11] <pettman> it is 4 hours before I even can start installing :(
[02:11] <sybariten> is there a package called locales ?
[02:11] <Sampizcat> sybariten:  most likely yes
[02:11] <thoreauputic> !info locales
[02:11] <robinl1> Seveas: How to upgrade with the old version of Ubuntu dapper drake running and without going to Edgy?
[02:11] <Exter-C> I noticed some time ago that Ubuntu has been 'certified' for DB2. We currently use Redhat for anything that requires commercial software, however we much prefer debian, With dapper now being out and having a longer support cycles for the server distrib I am interested to know if a) there are any intensions for Ubuntu to become certified for Oracl, and B) if there is any roadmap paln to have support or certification for commercial backup products like Verit
[02:11] <ubotu> locales: (GNU C Library: National Language (locale) data [support] ), section base, is important. Version: 2.3.5-1ubuntu12.5.10.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 3963 kB, Installed size: 10584 kB
[02:11] <livingdaylight> grimboy: hey, don't say that!  :D
[02:11] <surface> did anyone here tried desktop installer? do it have package selection options?
[02:11] <Fujitsu> robinl1, just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[02:11] <Chobo-Mog> regular desktop users without 64 bit procs should use the ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso torrent right"?
[02:11] <Fujitsu> surface, no.
[02:12] <Fujitsu> surface, no package options.
[02:12] <Fujitsu> Chobo-Mog, yes.
[02:12] <Frogzoo> seems there are no DVD torrents?
[02:12] <Chobo-Mog> excellent, ty
[02:12] <Dimitris> Well this is confusing! :-D I just repartition my hd for a fresh install. What do i download Desktop or Alternate? I don't want ending up with a live cd!
[02:12] <viola> does anyone know how to "uninstall" changes made by automatix?
[02:12] <SunTzuTech> Frogzoo: noticed the same
[02:12] <Fujitsu> Dimitris, Desktop will do.
[02:12] <robinl1> It says there are no updates.
[02:12] <Chobo-Mog> dvd torrents were there I think
[02:12] <wheelswitch> Frogzoo, there are dvd torrents
[02:12] <Chousuke> Dimitris: desktop
[02:12] <Fujitsu> viola, it's very difficult.
[02:12] <surface> Fujitsu: i think server version might be have...
[02:12] <Dimitris> thnx
[02:12] <robinl1> Dimitris: ALTERNATE
[02:12] <robinl1> ALTERNATE!!
[02:12] <robinl1> Desktop is the live CD
[02:12] <Chousuke> :(
[02:12] <Fujitsu> surface, the expert thing does.
[02:12] <grimboy> Exter-C, get in contact with a support sales representative if your a suit.
[02:12] <Chousuke> robinl1: um
[02:12] <viola> fujitsu, will it ruin the upgrade process even if i get the alternate cd?
[02:13] <livingdaylight> grimboy; be an optimist  :D
[02:13] <thoreauputic> Dimitris: desktop has an installer and live CD in one
[02:13] <Fujitsu> robinl1, the Desktop thing caxn install!
[02:13] <Seveas> robinl1, so?
[02:13] <Chousuke> robinl1: the live CD and the installer have been unified.
[02:13] <robinl1> true..
[02:13] <Fujitsu> viola, it /may/.
[02:13] <wheelswitch> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/release/dvd/
[02:13] <Frogzoo> wheelswitch: url?
[02:13] <monk_> anyone can help me with hotkeys?
[02:13] <wheelswitch> Frogzoo, http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/release/dvd/
[02:13] <Seveas> installed system is installed system....
[02:13] <livingdaylight> grimboy; love your Ubuntu
[02:13] <Fujitsu> monk_, explain your problem.
[02:13] <Frogzoo> wheelswitch: thx mate
[02:13] <Exter-C> grimboy: i am not a suit, but I would love to remove redhat from our internal servers.
[02:13] <grimboy> livingdaylight, yeh, sorry that's just what happend to me, cause I only had like 500mb left
[02:13] <livingdaylight> grimboy; hehe
[02:13] <surface> wheelswitch: dvd have all alternate ,desktop and server ?
[02:13] <kevor> wow, ubuntu.com is totally loaded
[02:13] <robinl1> Seveas, is there any difference between downloading Dapper today at 06:00 at the Netherlandish timezone, on the pool?
[02:13] <wheelswitch> Frogzoo, only 2 seeds at the moment, but give it an hour or 10 and that should be change
[02:13] <Krank> Is the DVD release a Live install one?
[02:13] <wheelswitch> surface, yes, as far as i know
[02:13] <Sampizcat> mmm. I don't think this installer is going anywhere...
[02:13] <livingdaylight> grimboy; how big is your harddrive?
[02:14] <Chobo-Mog> DVD Torrents --->  http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/  The torrent's name is ubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso   and it's 3.13gb for i386 users
[02:14] <monk_> Fujitsu, i'm usind ubuntu 6.06 on acer travelmate 2354 and when i try FN+F5 (vga output) it freezes
[02:14] <Exter-C> grimboy: however to do so its one of those chicken and egg situations, to remove redhat we need to know the distribution is certified by the vendors otherwise management will most likely laugh at the proposals
[02:14] <scheuri> robinl1: if you update it there isnt...dont worry
[02:14] <livingdaylight> grimboy; what do you mean you only had 500mb left?
[02:14] <monk_> same problem with ubuntu 5.10
[02:14] <Fujitsu> monk_, that's not a hotkey issue.
[02:14] <threat> 50Kb from the xubuntu site :(
[02:14] <fiendskull9> so is this now a drake channel too?
[02:14] <grimboy> livingdaylight, 10GB but I have an external 250GB one.
[02:14] <Fujitsu> That'll be a graphics driver issue.
[02:14] <Seveas> robinl1, the .pool were testing cd's
[02:14] <threat> where can I find some more mirrors?
[02:14] <Fujitsu> fiendskull9, Dapper has been released, so yes.
[02:14] <Sampizcat> threat:  mirrors are you friend :)
[02:14] <Seveas> they may have been broken
[02:14] <robinl1> yes and #ubuntu+1 is about edgy
[02:14] <monk_> Fujitsu, what can I do?
[02:14] <Frogzoo> wheelswitch: I'm assuming these have all the packages so are good to upgrade from?
[02:14] <robinl1> Seveas: so this is not the right one?
[02:14] <fiendskull9> grimboy, why dont you make the 250 internal, and 10 ext.?
[02:14] <Fujitsu> monk_, I have no experience with Acer laptops.
[02:14] <livingdaylight> grimboy; 250!  '<  should be enough?
[02:14] <grimboy> Exter-C, Just put together a slideshow, they love those.
[02:15] <pm> what time did the isos appear on the servers? (it's 14.15 right now for me)
[02:15] <Seveas> robinl1, if it installed then it's ok
[02:15] <surface> look forward to fubuntu haha
[02:15] <Fujitsu> robinl1, just apt-get dist-upgrade.
[02:15] <Sampizcat> monk_:  I have an acer laptop, and I find that most linux distros don't work with the hotkeys
[02:15] <fiendskull9> will dist-upgrade give me a stable dapper system then?
[02:15] <sybariten> but is locales something related specifically to ubuntu?  oh why o why cant there just be a single simple keyboard setting that would affect X as well as the console???!
[02:15] <grimboy> livingdaylight, That's mounted at /music
[02:15] <robinl1> Seveas: it DID install.. but is there any difference?
[02:15] <Fujitsu> 3 hours ago, pm.
[02:15] <hypnox> DapperUpgrades much improved hopefully
[02:15] <sybariten> and for all linuxes
[02:15] <surface> anyway i turn my ubuntu to fluxbox version
[02:15] <waym> when did it come out? a few hours ago?
[02:15] <monk_> Sampizcat, other hotkeys work fine, just this one does not
[02:15] <grimboy> fiendskull9, Cause I'm stupid
[02:15] <Fujitsu> robinl1, not if you dist-upgrade.
[02:15] <capitanplaneta> what's different on the dapper DVD from the CD? what else does it contain?
[02:15] <rixth> Haha, I am on IRC while installing woo!
[02:15] <wheelswitch> waym, yeah, about 3 hours now i think
[02:15] <Seveas> robinl1, yes there is difference, but that's why you do apt-get upgrade
[02:15] <pm> Fujitsu: thanks for reply :)
[02:15] <spikeb> woo
[02:15] <rixth> 24%.
[02:15] <waym> thank you!
[02:15] <robinl1> Fujitsu: after i installed this thing, i updated, no updates.
[02:15] <Sampizcat> monk_:  maybe issues with the video out?
[02:15] <Fujitsu> robinl1 it's OK then.
[02:16] <robinl1> And now i tried updating too, now updates
[02:16] <fiendskull9> ill dist-upgrade while im at band practice later
[02:16] <scheuri> robinl1: that means that you have the same ubuntu as we all have
[02:16] <robinl1> no*
[02:16] <robinl1> ok
[02:16] <Fujitsu> robinl1, did you apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:16] <robinl1> yes\
[02:16] <Sampizcat> Grr, my installer is stuck on "Installing GRUB boot loader", 50%, been there for about 20 mins
[02:16] <fiendskull9> i had a test flight running a few days ago, but got tired of 15 updates every 5 minutes :P
[02:16] <Fujitsu> OK, that's fine then.
[02:16] <rixth> I am suprised that the install CD does not come with xChat.... I freuently booted into my 5.04 live disc and used xChat when dapper wouldn't start.
[02:16] <Fujitsu> Sampizcat, what hardware?
[02:16] <robinl1> rixth: i think Gaim replaces it.
[02:16] <Fujitsu> rixth, Gaim is an IRC client.
[02:16] <wheelswitch> Sampizcat, check md5
[02:16] <robinl1> ...
[02:16] <spikeb> rixth, yeah, the earlier releases came with it
[02:16] <MistaED> i'm not sure if i should list this as a bug: i tried the expresso installer with dapper RC and used the partitioner (56gb NTFS + 4gb FAT32) and removed the fat32, shrunk the 56gb to 12gb (sda1), added 8gb ext3 (sda2 for /), 512mb swap (sda3), the rest ext3 (sda4), it took awhile to shrink but it worked, but then the next window to set mount points didn't show sda2 at all
[02:16] <monk_> Sampizcat, i don't know. everything runs very well, just when i press FN+F5...
[02:16] <bimberi> rixth: gaim can handle irc and cd space is at a premium
[02:16] <grimboy> robinl1, Have you tried -d
[02:17] <robinl1> grimboy: no! i don't want edgy!
[02:17] <waym> ubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso              <<< 3.3 gigs, what's in this?
[02:17] <rixth> robin, Fujitsu that is what I am using right now.
[02:17] <tahorg> waym: dvd image
[02:17] <robinl1> me too.
[02:17] <Fujitsu> MistaED, if it's being silly it is probably a bug.
[02:17] <MistaED> the fix i did was just formatting sda2-4 manually, then expresso was all good
[02:17] <scheuri> waym: everything...:)
[02:17] <Sampizcat> Fujitsu:  MB-Asus P5WD2-E Premium, Intel D940, 4x512MB Corsair DDR2 667Mhz, 4x300GB Seagate SATA2, DVD Burner
[02:17] <robinl1> the gaim IRC client kind of owns
[02:17] <Sampizcat> monk_:  what happens exactly?
[02:17] <Fujitsu> Hmm..
[02:17] <Fujitsu> SATA2 may be a bit of an issue.
[02:17] <robinl1> Seveas, are there any speed optimizers in the official release?
[02:17] <tahorg> waym: it looks like full repository
[02:17] <rixth> robin1, you being sarcastic?
[02:17] <MistaED> i can't test it now with full dapper =/
[02:17] <robinl1> cuz this Dapper is a bit slow.
[02:17] <grimboy> robinl1: But you can update from edgy to official in a couple of hours or so.
[02:17] <waym>  yummy
[02:17] <robinl1> No, rixth, i aren't.
[02:18] <Seveas> "speed optimizers"?
[02:18] <Sampizcat> Fujitsu:  Jeez, are you serious?
[02:18] <wheelswitch> waym, the dvd is the bling
[02:18] <monk_> Sampizcat, when i try to enable vga output, to use a video projector, the system freezes
[02:18] <robinl1> yes, the beta Dapper was fast, but this thing is a bit slower
[02:18] <Fujitsu> Sampizcat, it may have some issues.
[02:18] <rixth> I think it is rather simplistic, then again, eac to his own =)
[02:18] <Fujitsu> robinl1, I doubt it.
[02:18] <rambo3> so there where no updates since yesterday on default u-dapper since yesterday
[02:18] <Seveas> robinl1, then you may need to reinstal with the official cd
[02:18] <robinl1> i think it's the videocard..
[02:18] <robinl1> xD
[02:18] <apokryphos> rambo3: that's correct
[02:18] <robinl1> Is that really needed? luckily, i back-upped EVERYTHING
[02:18] <Sampizcat> Fujitsu:  damnit. I wanted ubuntu because I thought it was going to work with Sata2, be up to date enough.
[02:18] <robinl1> So.. There i go again. Wish me luck, then
[02:18] <eXistenZ> the only way to install ubuntu is through the live cd?
[02:18] <robinl1> I'll just do it to be sure
[02:18] <Fujitsu> Sampizcat, it probably will.
[02:18] <Sampizcat> Fujitsu:  I'll check the MD5 like wheelswitch suggested.
[02:18] <Fujitsu> eXistenZ, no!
[02:18] <grimboy> robinl1, Good luck.
[02:19] <rixth> Good luck robin1!
[02:19] <Fujitsu> Sampizcat, that's your best bet.
[02:19] <robinl1> Thanks, grimvoy
[02:19] <robinl1> boy*
[02:19] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: no, there is alternate cd too
[02:19] <eXistenZ> =/
[02:19] <Krank> Using the Flight 5 LiveCD I was never able to get to the desktop. I always got a series of these: hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[02:19] <Krank> Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 314976. Any idea what this means?
[02:19] <Fujitsu> Krank, a dud CD.
[02:19] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, I downloaded http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[02:19] <rixth> I want to take the install CD to school and boot it. My idjit IT teacher will throw a tantrum.
[02:19] <Sampizcat> monk_:  were you able to use it with previous ubuntu versions?
[02:19] <shriphani> guys the upgrade is 579 Mb
[02:19] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: that's the live+install
[02:19] <Fujitsu> rixth, take a Desktop CD :)
[02:19] <grimboy> Krank, Download another then check the checksum
[02:19] <Fujitsu> shriphani, not necessarily.
[02:19] <shriphani> but it is too big a download for me
[02:20] <Sampizcat> monk_:  what laptop do you have? model?
[02:20] <Krank> Ah. Just make sure the MD5's match on the burn
[02:20] <Fujitsu> shriphani, wait for CDs, then.
[02:20] <rixth> Fujitsu: that's what I have =) I wouldn't actually install it of course.
[02:20] <monk_> Sampizcat, it had the same problem on 5.10 too
[02:20] <rambo3> Krank, use latest cd. i hade same problems on reboot and shutdown
[02:20] <Fujitsu> rixth, why not?
[02:20] <shriphani> so can i upgrade from the cd ?
[02:20] <monk_> Sampizcat, it is a Acer TravelMate 2354LCi
[02:20] <Sampizcat> wheelswitch:    "Check CD for defects"?
[02:20] <capitanplaneta> ubuntu dvd is just the install cd + live cd on one disk?
[02:20] <livingdaylight> if Dapper was a football team it would win the World Cup
[02:20] <Fujitsu> I wouldn't mind if students at the school where I am an admin installed it :P
[02:20] <Fujitsu> livingdaylight, you don't say...
[02:20] <capitanplaneta> or does it contain extra stuff?
[02:20] <spikeb> capitanplaneta, and it has both amd64 and x86 i think
[02:20] <rixth> Fujitsu: I'd probably get suspended. They have this weird domain system going on too so I woukdn't be able to get online
[02:20] <wheelswitch> Sampizcat, Sorry?
[02:20] <livingdaylight> if Dapper was a rock band it would ROCK
[02:20] <shriphani> Fujitsu, can i upgrade from the dapper cd
[02:20] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, are they the same?
[02:20] <alleyoopster> Can anyone tell me if there has been updates between RC and final? I am was running RC and have not seen updates yet?
[02:21] <capitanplaneta> ok then the cd is enough for me
[02:21] <Fujitsu> shriphani, hmm.
[02:21] <Fujitsu> Actually.
[02:21] <Sampizcat> wheelswitch:  Is that the option I should use ?
[02:21] <Krank> Cool. Bit of a noob, but is dual-booting handled well?
[02:21] <Fujitsu> This is a significant issue...
[02:21] <livingdaylight> Fujitsu; man where is the poetry in ode to Dapper?
[02:21] <Sampizcat> wheelswitch:  to check md5? or something else?
[02:21] <grimboy> Krank, Yes.
[02:21] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: /msg ubotu desktop ; /msg ubotu alternate
[02:21] <wheelswitch> Sampizcat, yeah, that will do the same as an md5
[02:21] <robinl1> Seveas: What was wrong with the test CD's, then?
[02:21] <Seveas> robinl1, various issues
[02:21] <livingdaylight> GUYS! is there a poetry corner in ode to Dapper?
[02:21] <shriphani> because update manager says 518 MB but i have a download limit
[02:21] <Fujitsu> How are people going to upgrade if they haven't got the capacity to download things?
[02:21] <robinl1> For example?
[02:21] <Fujitsu> As you can't upgrade from the Desktop CD, and that's all that's being shipped...
[02:22] <Dreamglider> 44minutes to go
[02:22] <shriphani> awwwwww
[02:22] <shriphani> sheesh
[02:22] <Krank> Any reason to go with the amd64 release over the i386?
[02:22] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: I agree, it's an issue
[02:22] <rixth> Krank: if you have an amd64 platform?
[02:22] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, I'd say that it was a huge issue!
[02:22] <rixth> Krank: no Flash or Java though
[02:22] <shriphani> so an upgrade is not possible from the cd ?
[02:22] <scheuri> Krank: if you want 64bit sofware on a 64bit processor
[02:22] <defunkt> krank: if you don't have the correct platform, it won't work.
[02:22] <Fujitsu> Seveas, what do you think>?
[02:22] <apokryphos> shriphani: from the altnernate CD it is, yes.
[02:22] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: especially forpeople in countries without much broadband access
[02:22] <shriphani> alternate cd ?
[02:22] <Frogzoo> omgawd - 70k with only 2 seeds on the DVD torrent :D
[02:22] <defunkt> the dapper install is so sexy <3
[02:22] <shriphani> tell me apokryphos
[02:23] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, this is certainly going to be a large issue.
[02:23] <robinl1> Seveas: what issues?
[02:23] <apokryphos> shriphani: tell you what?
[02:23] <Krank> I've got it, presuming it works with ULI 1695 board
[02:23] <shriphani> about the alternate cd apokryphos
[02:23] <fredrich1> mm...400k/s
[02:23] <apokryphos> shriphani: /msg ubotu alternate
[02:23] <ukh> rixth: no flash, but java is there
[02:23] <Fujitsu> If it's an AMD Athlon 64, it'll work, Krank.
[02:23] <Adam-> Alex takes big cock up his ass!
[02:23] <apokryphos> shriphani: you can get it from /topic
[02:23] <Tinned_Tuna> HEya
[02:23] <grimboy> The new rhythmbox is teh suck
[02:23] <shriphani> ok
[02:23] <Tinned_Tuna> oops, sorry
[02:23] <goteki> anyone knows how I can enable widescreen support in ubuntu?
[02:23] <Krank> Cool
[02:23] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: Personally I think shipit should have a choice of CDs
[02:23] <defunkt> howdy
[02:23] <Sampizcat> wheelswitch:  crumbs, the CD is valid :P
[02:23] <shriphani> so i can do it with the text installer ?
[02:23] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, it'd need to...
[02:23] <Tinned_Tuna> how do I perform an upgrade through apt?
[02:24] <Fujitsu> shriphani, that's how you /have/ to do it.
[02:24] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: i.e. you can order alternate instead of desktop...
[02:24] <rixth> Oh! New Rhythmbox, awesome. The best feature they ever added was built in Last.fm support. And the Queued Songs sidebar was cool too.
[02:24] <apokryphos> ack, wrong person
[02:24] <wheelswitch> Sampizcat, weird.
[02:24] <shriphani> ok Fujitsu is it being shipped ?
[02:24] <Fujitsu> Tinned_Tuna, modify your sources.list, then apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade.
[02:24] <apokryphos> hm, left
[02:24] <Fujitsu> shriphani, not at the moment.
[02:24] <Tinned_Tuna> hmm ok
[02:24] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: I have a feeling this will come up on the mailing lists in the next few days
[02:24] <Fujitsu> However, this issue needs to be brought up with somebody important.
[02:24] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, it'd better.
[02:24] <rixth> !info rhythmbox
[02:24] <ubotu> rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.0-0ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 1565 kB, Installed size: 4724 kB
[02:24] <alleyoopster> goteki: check system, preferences, screen resolution. See if the resolution you want is listed there first
[02:25] <wheelswitch> Sampizcat, im out of ideas, im pretty new to this too, but i had a similar problem with 5.10 and that was the issue.
[02:25] <rixth> Hmm, it needs to default to dapper now.
[02:25] <rixth> !info rhythmbox dapper
[02:25] <ubotu> rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.3.1-0ubuntu9 (dapper), Packaged size: 1759 kB, Installed size: 6332 kB
[02:25] <Sampizcat> ah crumbs. Thanks anyway wheelswitch , Fujitsu , will go to bed an d try tomorrow
[02:25] <Tinned_Tuna> I just change all instances of the the word breezy to dapper?
[02:25] <Sampizcat> Later all!
[02:25] <fredrich1> wow..the ubuntuforums.org is really slowing to a crawl
[02:25] <rixth> Install complete! See you guys soon.
[02:25] <scheuri> Tinned_Tuna: yes
[02:25] <Fujitsu> Bye, rixth.
[02:25] <goteki> alleyopster it's not, highest resolution is 1024x768... I need 1680x1050... using amd64 release, nvidia 6600 gt, nforce 4
[02:25] <robinl1> i'm downloading the final iso
[02:25] <Tinned_Tuna> cool
[02:25] <Fujitsu> fredrich1, is that a surprise?
[02:25] <Grunt> only another 48 mins to go
[02:25] <Bit-CORU> DAPPER!
[02:25] <Bit-CORU> DAPPER!
[02:25] <Bit-CORU> DAPPER!
[02:25] <Bit-CORU> xD
[02:25] <Bit-CORU> GOOGOGOGO
[02:25] <Bit-CORU> xD
[02:26] <wheelswitch> why use forums when there is IRC
[02:26] <Fujitsu> goteki, what graphics card?
[02:26] <robinl1> go Bit-CORU!
[02:26] <robinl1> you're the best xD
[02:26] <Bit-CORU> xD
[02:26] <scheuri> wheelswitch: exactly....*rolleseyes"
[02:26] <shriphani> cant i terminate the download
[02:26] <wheelswitch> robinl1,  thanks for the update
[02:26] <goteki> fujitsu: 6600gt
[02:26] <robinl1> whaddaya mean?
[02:26] <Fujitsu> goteki, aha...
[02:26] <fredrich1> Fujitsu, yes and no...ive seen game forum servers go down from releases, but it's the first time i've seen a linux distro forum almost go down from the load
[02:26] <Fujitsu> I don't have Nvidia experience.
[02:26] <shriphani> or carry out the download after a few boots ?
[02:26] <Fujitsu> fredrich1, Ubuntu forums are very good...
[02:27] <goteki> hmm
[02:27] <shriphani> man this has left me depressed
[02:27] <Fujitsu> *not very good.
[02:27] <livingdaylight> i can feel the Ubuntu-mexian wave coming on!
[02:27] <fredrich1> Fujitsu, what i mean is, that the rush and the pressure is more than a linux distro upgrade usually garners
[02:27] <sybariten> can someone make an educated guess on when the forums will be back to a normal state?
[02:27] <Fujitsu> fredrich1, yes. This /is/ Dapper.
[02:27] <sybariten> or is this all due to overpopulation only
[02:27] <Fujitsu> sybariten, once everybody gives up...
[02:27] <Spaceraver> a fujitus siemens amilo model m52174 should run ubuntu good right??
[02:27] <Verithrax> Too many 'omg lols dapper is the roxx0r posts'?
[02:27] <Fujitsu> sybariten, probably just overpopulation.
[02:27] <thoreauputic> sybariten: the latter I think
[02:28] <noodle> how do i reclaim my firefox icon.. was about to read the forum post before it died :(
[02:28] <Whoopie> Hi, I have a question regarding package patches: what are these relibtoolize patches for?
[02:28] <Fujitsu> Spaceraver, thanks for not pinging me :) Typos can be useful some times...
[02:28] <bliss_> hi
[02:28] <wheelswitch> noodle, just use easyubuntu
[02:28] <Fujitsu> And yes, Spaceraver, it should run fine.
[02:28] <fiendskull9> hey
[02:28] <shriphani> ok guys any ideas when the alternate cd is coming out
[02:28] <fiendskull9> whats the command to update from breezy to dap.?
[02:28] <alleyoopster> goteki: most likely you will need to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, this will reconfigure the screen. Be sure to back up xorg.conf first
[02:28] <grimboy> !tell noodle about easyubuntu
[02:28] <Fujitsu> shriphani, it was released over 3 hours ago.
[02:28] <Fujitsu> fiendskull9, read the topic.
[02:28] <Frogzoo> !tell shriphani about torrent
[02:28] <noodle> ok thx
[02:28] <monk_> !twinview
[02:28] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, monk_
[02:29] <thoreauputic> !tell fiendskull9 about upgrade
[02:29] <robinl1>       	 		 vBulletin Message 		 	     	 	 		 	 				 			 			 			 			We'll be right back.
[02:29] <bliss_> whats the command line to upgrade from 5-10 server with fluxbox to 6.06 server with fluxbox?
[02:29] <thoreauputic> bliss_: erm, your fluxbox will be upgraded automatically
[02:29] <thoreauputic> bliss_: unless you compiled it or something
[02:30] <wheelswitch> i rekon xirc tab completion should be related to who posted last.
[02:30] <SunTzuTech> bliss_: fix /etc/apt/sources.list to get the dapper upgrade, then do an apt-get update and a apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:30] <wheelswitch> *xchat even
[02:30] <Grunt> well seeing as there's no parties in birmingham I think i will have to go down to the pub and drunk with my friends under the guise of ubuntu launch party ;-)
[02:30] <Fujitsu> wheelswitch, file a wishlist bug :)
[02:30] <Verithrax> I... LOVE... THIS... COMMUNITY.
[02:30] <thoreauputic> *sigh* the feeding frenzy is getting to me...
[02:30] <wycats> Is there a way to get boot-admin back into ubuntu?
[02:30] <Tinned_Tuna> hehe :)
[02:31] <Fujitsu> wycats, install it?
[02:31] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, you deserve it :)
[02:31] <wycats> It's part of Gnome System Tools
[02:31] <wycats> was taken out by Ubuntu
[02:31] <Frogzoo> feed me - sooooo hungry
[02:31] <wycats> even though they provide GST
[02:31] <Fujitsu> wycats, what did it do?
[02:31] <wycats> allowed visual editing of Grub
[02:31] <livingdaylight> Tinned_Tuna; is your real name Tina Dapper Turner?
[02:31] <wycats> Grub bootloaders that is
[02:31] <bliss_> SunTzuTech: thanks what fix do i need in etc/aptsources list please?
[02:31] <dbglt> can anyone assist me in install the ati binary driver? I've followed the instructions and it will not work... I'm currently using dapper
[02:31] <Tinned_Tuna> lol
[02:31] <Tinned_Tuna> :)
[02:31] <Tinned_Tuna> not quite :)
[02:32] <siccness> dbglt, kind of.
[02:32] <Fujitsu> !doesn't work
[02:32] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:32] <bliss_> thoreauputic; thanks for support
[02:32] <dbglt> fglrxinfo still shows that I am using Mesa, even though I have followed all the steps prescribed
[02:32] <dooglus> SunTzuTech: sudo sed -i s/breezy/dapper/ /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:32] <siccness> Oh, maybe not then.
[02:32] <thoreauputic> bliss_: you're welcome :)
[02:32] <Reg|ster> some one have the wiki link how to install alott of programs to ubuntu?  java xmms etc
[02:32] <Hmmmm> hooraah! azureus is ripping dapper
[02:32] <Tinned_Tuna> ripping?
[02:32] <Frogzoo> !tell Hmmmm about torrent
[02:33] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell Reg|ster about java
[02:33] <cef> anyone else grabbing the i386 dvd iso via torrent? can you see an actual seed?
[02:33] <kevor> Tinned_Tuna: it's RIPPING away flesh :P
[02:33] <Frogzoo> Hmmmm: 90kB/s :D
[02:33] <Tinned_Tuna> :p
[02:33] <grimboy> Hmmmm, azureus is a bit heavy for a background application.
[02:33] <dbglt> I followed the instructiosn under the heading: Install instructions for Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake)
[02:33] <Hmmmm> Frogzoo, well im on a 512K connection, so i'll be happy with the 45K that im getting
[02:33] <dbglt> (on the wiki)
[02:33] <bliss_> Tinned_Tuna: how's it going?
[02:33] <dbglt> then tried removing it as is specified in the troubleshooting section
[02:33] <Frogzoo> Hmmmm: yup, sounds good
[02:34] <dooglus> Frogzoo: why do you need the alternate iso to upgrade?  there are packages on the desktop iso too...
[02:34] <sybariten> damn i know there are some pedagogical threads on the forum on how to set up the best locales system for sweden
[02:34] <dbglt> there don't seem to be any errors in my Xorg.log either
[02:34] <Fujitsu> dooglus, no there are not!
[02:34] <Chousuke> hmm.
[02:34] <robinl1> Can somebody tell me what the issues of the .pool test CD's were?
[02:34] <dxdemetriou> the update-manager will have later the upgrate to Dapper, or for each stable release upgrade must be used the -d?
[02:34] <Chousuke> Dapper looks pretty sleek
[02:34] <Hmmmm> well i'll leave for the day. will have dapper waiting to be deployed on 15 machines toimorrow morning...
[02:34] <Fujitsu> robinl1, no. General pre-release issues!
[02:34] <Chousuke> having a weird problem though.
[02:34] <sybariten> Chousuke: dapper? never heard of it.
[02:35] <Tinned_Tuna> go go big-pipe server!
[02:35] <grimboy> Chousuke, it looks slightly less like diarrah, yes.
[02:35] <Fujitsu> sybariten, Ubuntu 6.06.
[02:35] <Frogzoo> !tell cef about torrent
[02:35] <SunTzuTech> bliss_: grr.  I can't find the sources.list you need now  (it used to be on the wiki)
[02:35] <sybariten> Fujitsu: oh, i must have missed that
[02:35] <Chousuke> when I enable Finnish keyboard layout, keys from A to Z stop working
[02:35] <Prestidigita> Hi, im a newbie. can anyone tell me how to install opera on ubuntu ?
[02:35] <wycats> Is there a clean upgrade from Dapper Beta to Dapper full?
[02:35] <grimboy> !tell sybariten to be quiet
[02:35] <flodine> anyone use the alternate install cd i need help
[02:35] <wheelswitch> cef, yeah, 2 seeds
[02:35] <dooglus> SunTzuTech: just run the command I gave you just now
[02:35] <Frogzoo> cef: I got 2 seeds & 230 peers :D
[02:35] <dooglus> SunTzuTech: sudo sed -i s/breezy/dapper/ /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:35] <wheelswitch> cef, dont worry, it will come
[02:36] <Fujitsu> wycats, just apt-get dist-upgrade.
[02:36] <grimboy> !tell sybariten to be quiet
[02:36] <Fujitsu> grimboy, that was uncalled for.
[02:36] <SunTzuTech> dooglus: I'm already on 6.06.  I was telling bliss what he needed to change to get dapper upgraded.
[02:36] <robinl1> Prestidigita: sudo apt-get install opera, but first enable the universe and multiverse, there's instructions on that in the wiki and in the bot.
[02:36] <grimboy> Fujitsu, hehe
[02:36] <cef> wheelswitch: hehe yeah, just checking
[02:36] <muszek> Prestidigita: download the package from opera.com and then sudo dpkg -i name_of_the_package.deb
[02:36] <igorzolnikov> how can i read ntfs?
[02:36] <fredrich1> does gl games work even if youre running xgl?
[02:37] <bliss_> SunTzuTech: yep thanks maybe its changed?
[02:37] <grimboy> sybariten, A wet chocolate fish is traditional
[02:37] <flodine> if you use the alternate cd why dont it ask for a user name and pasword when installing
[02:37] <wheelswitch> cef, tomorrow it should be more like 1000 seeds, 2 peers
[02:37] <Kronoz> fredrich1, i've heard not but i'm not sure
[02:37] <Fujitsu> igorzolnikov, the installer should automagically mount them.
[02:37] <sshrdp> anybody tried new ati driver on dapper? i get "[fglrx]  ... could not register entrypoint for ..." error
[02:37] <Fujitsu> flodine, it should...
[02:37] <livingdaylight> WoaH! another Ubuntu-Mexican Wave makes its way around the World. Yea!
[02:37] <Kronoz> sshrdp, i don't think ati have made xorg 7 drivers yet
[02:37] <wheelswitch> was the 5.10 launch as big of an event as this?
[02:38] <Fujitsu> wheelswitch, not quite.
[02:38] <wycats> It says I have 0 upgrades; does that mean the updates already happened automatically?
[02:38] <robinl1> I love Dapper's default look.
[02:38] <wycats> There were a bunch of updates last night that I accepted
[02:38] <Fujitsu> wycats, probably.
[02:38] <bliss_> dooglus: do you have the line i need to but in my sources to update to 6.06 server please?
[02:38] <Fujitsu> wycats, that's it, then.
[02:38] <tubbie> installing win xp pro. hope it  install correctly :)
[02:38] <igorzolnikov> how can i write ntfs?
[02:38] <aLPHa_LeaK>  g'day
[02:38] <tubbie> I mean in Qemu
[02:38] <Fujitsu> igorzolnikov, you can't.
[02:38] <Fujitsu> tubbie, phew.
[02:38] <dbglt> ok, just went through the xorg log, and I get: (II) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit done (EE) fglrx(0): Hardware already been locked. - it then reverts to only 2d and not 3d acceleration, as it can't initialise DRI
[02:38] <robinl1> .. holy shit
[02:38] <wycats> Will it continue providing the updates automatically as they are released?
[02:38] <dbglt> any ideas what I could do to fix this up?
[02:38] <rambo3> !tell igorzolnikov about ntfs
[02:38] <robinl1> i look into the theme dialog, and HOLY MOTHER those are MUCH themes!
[02:39] <Kronoz> igorzolnikov, it can be done but it isn't really safe
[02:39] <Fujitsu> wycats, yes.
[02:39] <kspath> robinl1: Please keep your religion out of the channel
[02:39] <wycats> cool
[02:39] <sybariten> igorzolnikov: you can write to FAT but NTFS support is more kinda experimental, i believe
[02:39] <livingdaylight> Guys! once i've upgraded to Dapper from Breezy (10minutes away) will i have Dapper default looks?
[02:39] <robinl1> lol
[02:39] <wycats> so I won't need to do apt-get ...
[02:39] <Fujitsu> robinl1, is this surprising?
[02:39] <robinl1> Yes.
[02:39] <Verithrax> Aaagh.
[02:39] <Nookie> !ntfs
[02:39] <Verithrax> Apt died on me.
[02:39] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[02:39] <Verithrax> Preparing to replace xserver-xorg-core 6.8.2-77.1 (using .../xserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10_i386.deb) ...
[02:39] <Verithrax> Unpacking replacement xserver-xorg-core ...
[02:39] <Verithrax> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10_i386.deb (--unpack):
[02:39] <Verithrax>  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/scanpci', which is also in package gatos
[02:39] <Verithrax> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[02:39] <Fujitsu> livingdaylight, you should. If not, just select the `Human' theme in System->Preferences->Theme.
[02:39] <Verithrax> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:39] <Verithrax>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10_i386.deb
[02:39] <Verithrax> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:39] <robinl1> And they're all beautiful! ^_^
[02:39] <Kronoz> !paste
[02:39] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[02:39] <gnomefreak> Verithrax: stop pasteing
[02:39] <Kholerabb1> Dappers's released!!!
[02:39] <livingdaylight> Fujitsu, Thx man  :)
[02:39] <rsk> no kidding
[02:39] <Kholerabb1> Anybody go to a party?
[02:40] <Kronoz> Kholerabb1, you don't say!
[02:40] <lib8264q> hmm stupid ? just checked "download sites" lts is released  .... sites that are supposed to have iso  the dates of are showing same dates as sits that "my not have yet"
[02:40] <Fujitsu> Kholerabb1, we noticed.
[02:40] <bliss_> ompaul: busy day
[02:40] <wheelswitch> anyone from canberra, australia want to party?
[02:40] <Frogzoo> !tell lib8264q about torrent
[02:40] <Prestidigita> muszek, i did it and im having some dependancy problem
[02:40] <livingdaylight> Fujitsu; is the sound on boot-up still the same?
[02:40] <grimboy> Kholerabb1, I held my own party.
[02:40] <Fujitsu> livingdaylight, on login, yes.
[02:40] <lib8264q> cool
[02:40] <Prestidigita> muszek, libqt3-mt and libqt3c102
[02:40] <Kholerabb1> grimboy: Good
[02:40] <rixth> Nooo, my fave. package is gone.
[02:41] <sybariten> wheelswitch: you cant seriously mean you are gonna have a party because a new distro version is released
[02:41] <Kholerabb1> ?
[02:41] <robinl1> all those themes..
[02:41] <grimboy> Kholerabb1, It just involved me drinking lots.
[02:41] <robinl1> they're so BEAUTIFUL!
[02:41] <Fujitsu> rixth, what?
[02:41] <livingdaylight> Fujitsu; kewl. That was such a winner, it would have b een hard to improve on, no?!  :p
[02:41] <lib8264q> !tell lib8246q about torrent
[02:41] <flodine> Fujitsu i do a oem install and only ask for password
[02:41] <Fujitsu> livingdaylight, it's not bad!
[02:41] <Kholerabb1> :):):)
[02:41] <wheelswitch> sybariten, no, id be scared of who would turn up, linux party would be a little weird
[02:41] <rixth> Fujitsu: it was an alternative Gnome network applet, showed the current speed in and out
[02:41] <Fujitsu> flodine, why OEM?
[02:41] <sybariten> wheelswitch: no shit
[02:41] <livingdaylight> Fujitsu; common it rocks!  ;)
[02:42] <ompaul> **** Notice **** do not paste in the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org thank you
[02:42] <bliss_> anyone got the sources ist line to update from 5-10 server to 6.06 please
[02:42] <ompaul> !language
[02:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[02:42] <grimboy> wheelswitch, honestly you'd get a bit mix.
[02:42] <Fujitsu> bliss_, running a desktop installation?
[02:42] <wheelswitch> sybariten, but rumor has it there are a fair few parties going on around the world, i was more curious if any one from canberra was on
[02:42] <h3h_timo> !upgrade
[02:42] <ubotu> from memory, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[02:42] <kspath> !ompaul++
[02:42] <snoops> Hiya.. Just installed 6.06 amd64 desktop edition.. I went through the graphical install, chose my boot drive (which also has an xp install on it first)
[02:42] <robinl1> even new cursors?! oh man, dapper rules! the look is SO customizable!
[02:42] <snoops> I set the ext3 partition size, as well as a swap partition
[02:42] <ompaul> kspath, your like a one person fan club ;-) thanks
[02:42] <Frogzoo> !tell h3h_timo about torrent
[02:43] <Fujitsu> And, snoops?
[02:43] <Prestidigita> im having some dependancy problem while installing opera. can any one help me out ?
[02:43] <flodine> Fujitsu i want regular desktop install what should i do
[02:43] <Kronoz> lol, i've only ever seen 1000+ channel members in #gentoo before
[02:43] <bliss_> Fujitsu; no its a 5-10 server with fluxbox I want to update to 6.606 server
[02:43] <Fujitsu> Prestidigita, what's missing?
[02:43] <snoops> it installed..quickly mentioned it was installing grub boot manager
[02:43] <grimboy> I keep getting the error unable to initiallize frontend: gnome
[02:43] <wheelswitch> `info
[02:43] <Fujitsu> flodine, clean, or upgrade?
[02:43] <snoops> then, I reboot and take out disk..then xp loads!
[02:43] <Frogzoo> !tell bliss_ about torrent
[02:43] <grimboy> (when upgrading)
[02:43] <kspath> Kronoz: metoo is popular?
[02:43] <sybariten> wheelswitch: GL, HF
[02:43] <h3h_timo> Frogzoo, im not gonna use the iso.. im gonna just update my computer...
[02:43] <snoops> so..umm what happened to the boot manager
[02:43] <Fujitsu> snoops, did you install GRUB to the MBR?
[02:43] <Prestidigita> Fujitsu, libqt3-mt and libqt3c102-mt
[02:43] <Frogzoo> h3h_timo: torrents way faster dude
[02:43] <snoops> I just went through the graphical installer Fujitsu
[02:43] <Kronoz> kspath, unfortunatly
[02:44] <noodle> grimboy, wheelswitch: the replace firefox icon option in easyubuntu is not supported for ppc it seems :S
[02:44] <Fujitsu> Prestidigita, install the two packages using Synaptic.
[02:44] <flodine> Fujitsu when i put the cd in theres oem and text install
[02:44] <snoops> it never gave me options to set the boot partition or choose which boot manager to use
[02:44] <petrik> 2 seconds into it..... looks nice
[02:44] <Fujitsu> flodine, you should have used text install!
[02:44] <h3h_timo> Frogzoo, i know.. but im gonna be gone all day and im just gonna let it install
[02:44] <bliss_> Frogzoo:i want to use apt-get nottorrent
[02:44] <jpatota> snoops, did you fall asleep and did grub load windows for you?
[02:44] <rsk> gah the software updater just died
[02:44] <Fujitsu> rsk, how?
[02:44] <ompaul> Verithrax, do this, >> sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get upgrade  <<
[02:44] <rsk> it just did. :)
[02:44] <Frogzoo> bah - people apt-get updating will just crash the repos :p
[02:44] <wheelswitch> is it posible to change the default os that grub loads up?
[02:44] <holycow> bah
[02:44] <jpatota> snoops, or did grub just not show up at all
[02:44] <Prestidigita> Fujitsu, im a newbie don't knw what is synaptic. cud u give me a reference
[02:45] <holycow> dapper iso doesn't work!
[02:45] <Fujitsu> wheelswitch, of course.
[02:45] <holycow> meh
[02:45] <snoops> grub install never showed up
[02:45] <thoreauputic> !synaptic
[02:45] <ubotu> synaptic is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:45] <Fujitsu> Prestidigita, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager.
[02:45] <grimboy> !doesn't work
[02:45] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:45] <holycow> snoops, same here
[02:45] <holycow> hung up the laptop
[02:45] <Fujitsu> holycow, you sure it's valid?
[02:45] <ompaul> holycow, check the md5 sum of that you downloaded
[02:45] <snoops> I mean, when it said it was installing..in the messages it mentioned grub..
[02:45] <fredrich1> um...does aiglx work better with games ans whatnot? or does it hog gpu functionality like xgl?
[02:45] <snoops> but there's no sign of it
[02:45] <jpatota> snoops, can you modify your boot.ini in windows?
[02:45] <flodine> Fujitsu text is command line right
[02:45] <snoops> yep
[02:45] <rambo3> guess forums are overloaded
[02:45] <jpatota> snoops, or did you want to use the grub loader
[02:46] <Fujitsu> flodine, not really.
[02:46] <snoops> I would have liked to use the grub boot loader
[02:46] <jpatota> snoops, actually its probably better to use grub
[02:46] <ompaul> holycow, if the imag e  has a different md5sum then it is broken in some way regrab
[02:46] <Fujitsu> flodine, OEM is just a modified text installation.
[02:46] <snoops> but I would have also liked to have set a boot partition
[02:46] <DrNickRiviera> anyone here got experience with noflushd and journaling filesystems?
[02:46] <holycow> ompaul, *hmm*k
[02:46] <n00tz> what's the quickest way to get GDM set back to my Login Manager? I installed KDM no hitch, but I think I like GDM better
[02:46] <snoops> since I had a free 700meg space just for it
[02:46] <Fujitsu> jpatota, you can't use the Windows bootloader to boot Linux.
[02:46] <ompaul> holycow, :-)
[02:46] <Fujitsu> n00tz, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm, and select gdm.
[02:46] <aftertaf> n00tz, apt-get remove kdm && apt-get install gdm
[02:46] <YogSothoth> Hi!
[02:46] <Frogzoo> bliss_: at this rate, all the apt-get upgrades will fail when the repos finally fall over...
[02:46] <rambo3> dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:46] <holycow> !dapper
[02:46] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[02:46] <rsk> :)
[02:46] <n00tz> Fujitsu: thanks
[02:47] <DrNickRiviera> just wondering whether it will make any difference on a drive that is mainly used for reading
[02:47] <snoops> By the way, I'm very impressed with the installer
[02:47] <livingdaylight> Where is the LONDON party?
[02:47] <Ocult> dae
[02:47] <tubbie> installing xp in qemu is so slow :(
[02:47] <TobiasFar> hod can i check which ubuntu version i have?
[02:47] <TobiasFar> how
[02:47] <Frogzoo> TobiasFar: lsb_release -a
[02:47] <dooglus> holycow: try seeding the image on bittorrent.  if it is corrupted, your torrent client will fix the corruption very quickly
[02:47] <snoops> it's a bit annoying how my monitors res isn't supported..but I'll fix that in my x11 conf file
[02:47] <rambo3> Systemm->help
[02:47] <rambo3> TobiasFar, Systemm->help
[02:47] <YogSothoth> ompaul: Hi! I forgot to say thanx yesterday: the fstab file works perfect! I can now access my Windows disk without being root!
[02:47] <jpatota> snoops, http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~yu_luo/fc3_grub.html
[02:47] <Fujitsu> I'd better be off to bed... See you all!
[02:47] <bliss_> Frogzoo: ok but i still need thesources line for 6.06 server I will risk the fail
[02:47] <grimboy> livingdaylight, London
[02:47] <baconbacon> dooglus: system, about ubuntu
[02:47] <x3on> what is the most up to date guide on using WPA in dapper?
[02:47] <Frogzoo> !tell holycow about torrent
[02:47] <ompaul> TobiasFar, >>lsb_release -d << run that in a terminal
[02:47] <rambo3> sorry
[02:48] <holycow> dooglus, chan title says not to use torrent
[02:48] <jpatota> snoops, i dont know how much that will help
[02:48] <rambo3> TobiasFar, Systemm-> about ubuntu
[02:48] <ompaul> YogSothoth, no problem, glad it worked for you
[02:48] <dooglus> holycow: no, it doesn't.  read it again
[02:48] <Fujitsu> x3on, get Network Manager
[02:48] <lib8264q> am i asume the download servers busy ??????
[02:48] <jpatota> snoops, but the general idea still applies
[02:48] <livingdaylight> grimboy: hahaha, you naughty devil. I see no party scheduled for London. Is it over at your place?
[02:48] <ompaul> lib8264q, you assume correctly
[02:48] <snoops> I don't see how any of that would work jpatota
[02:48] <TobiasFar> rambo3, about ubuntu shows a webpage in firefox which doesn't mention any version number
[02:48] <Fujitsu> lib8264q, they will be slow for a while.
[02:48] <snoops> since..like I can't get to my ubuntu install
[02:48] <x3on> Is that included in the default repositories, Fujitsu?
[02:48] <holycow> ah
[02:48] <rsk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1074275#post1074275
[02:48] <holycow> danke
[02:48] <rsk> plzhelp
[02:48] <Fujitsu> x3on, yes.
[02:48] <lib8264q> lol yea i guess so  cant get onto  lol
[02:49] <Fujitsu> network-manager-gnome, or something like that.
[02:49] <n00tz> Dapper on my Thinkpad JustWorked (tm)
[02:49] <n00tz> thanks for the help everyone
[02:49] <n00tz> ;)
[02:49] <Fujitsu> No problem, n00tz.
[02:49] <snoops> thanks for the help so far jpatota
[02:49] <grimboy> livingdaylight, Nah, I maybe details are being clarified.
[02:49] <Fujitsu> What model ThinkPad?
[02:49] <Frogzoo> !tell lib8264q about torrent
[02:49] <snoops> so umm.. should I go over the details again?
[02:49] <gego2> 1032
[02:49] <snoops> since it was quite segmented
[02:50] <rambo3> TobiasFar, thats weard
[02:50] <grimboy> livingdaylight, If it's on the wiki look at previous versions, it might have had a place.
[02:50] <livingdaylight> grimboy; are you in London?
[02:50] <Fujitsu> Goodnight all!
[02:50] <livingdaylight> grimboy; i looked there is nothing scheduled yet
[02:50] <scheuri> Fujitsu: he doenst seem to want to know us his type of thinkpad...
[02:50] <gego2> its not night..
[02:50] <Hamurabbi> on the ubuntu.com website, i see two versions
[02:50] <baconbacon> ubuntuforums asploded?
[02:50] <grimboy> livingdaylight, No, I'm in sleepy, redneck York
[02:50] <bliss_> Frogzoo:i cannot use torrent
[02:50] <lexhider> Is it possible to use the ubuntu desktop installer (dapper) in non-graphics mode (console) ???
[02:50] <Fujitsu> scheuri, apparently not :P
[02:50] <wheelswitch> Fujitsu, night
[02:50] <jiv> hi, how set screen resolution on login scree?
[02:50] <Hamurabbi> on the ubuntu.com website, i see two versions, desktop and server, can I install the "server" version if i Download the "Desktop" version ?
[02:50] <Fujitsu> No, lexhider.
[02:51] <Fujitsu> You need the alternate or server CD.
[02:51] <Fujitsu> Hamurabbi, no.
[02:51] <livingdaylight> grimboy; hahaha, you're lucky, or'd come and crash your pad  :p
[02:51] <Hamurabbi> what's th edifference between the two
[02:51] <Frogzoo> bliss_: why not? to upgrade, either use the 'alternate' CD iso - or get the DVD
[02:51] <Hamurabbi> there isn't much details on the site
[02:51] <grimboy> livingdaylight, heh
[02:51] <[A] ndy80> a simple question: I've replaced "breezy" with "dapper" in my sources.list since 3 months ago. Every day I do dist-upgrade.... do I have the latest stable now that 6.06 is out?
[02:51] <Hamurabbi> (where i'm looking)
[02:51] <Frogzoo> !tell lexhider about torrent
[02:51] <jbroome> [A] ndy80: yeah
[02:51] <[A] ndy80> thanks
[02:52] <bliss_> Frogzoo; i am on a server with mimimal packages
[02:52] <Frogzoo> bliss_: well, there is that...
[02:52] <livingdaylight> ok, about to have LIFTOFF. Counting down to reboot now, wish me Luck
[02:52] <grimboy> Could someone help me, when upgrading I keep getting errors like: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured.
[02:52] <aftertaf> grimboy, paste the messages to pastebin
[02:52] <changerOfSea> is a desktop cd like a live cd and an install cd combined into one?
[02:52] <snoops> I'm gonna try reboot again to see if I somehow missed the grub boot loader opening
[02:52] <baconbacon> grimboy: dist-upgrae or upgrade?
[02:52] <bliss_> Frogzoo: thankyou
[02:52] <snoops> but I totally doubt it
[02:52] <aftertaf> changerOfSea, seems so yeah :)
[02:52] <changerOfSea> aftertaf: thanks
[02:52] <Frogzoo> bliss_: cheers bliss_ yw
[02:52] <grimboy> baconbacon, -d when it was RC
[02:52] <aledie> Hi, if the dist-upgrade worked, why cat /etc/debian_version gives testing/unstable
[02:52] <aftertaf> snoops, you press ESC?
[02:53] <snoops> when?
[02:53] <grimboy> aftertaf, I can't paste because control-c will stop it.
[02:53] <Fee^> Linux afsw 2.6.13 #1 Tue Sep 6 17:56:37 PDT 2005 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux
[02:53] <McNutella> the servers must be going at some pace, im at a constant 650k a second here :D
[02:53] <bliss_> Frogzoo; ye thanks
[02:53] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[02:53] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[02:53] <livingdaylight> grimboy; maybe you should install Warty? hehe
[02:53] <RandolphCarter> aledie: lsb_release -a ?
[02:53] <aftertaf> grimboy, not ctl+C, select the text in console.
[02:53] <Hamurabbi> does anyone have a list of details of differences between server and desktop ?
[02:53] <McNutella> Hamurabbi, its on the web somewhere
[02:54] <McNutella> one of the ubuntu sites
[02:54] <bliss_> anybody have the sources line to for apt-get to upgrade from 5-10 server to 6.06 server please?
[02:54] <aledie> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[02:54] <aledie> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[02:54] <aledie> Release:        6.06
[02:54] <aledie> Codename:       dapper
[02:54] <wheelswitch> grimboy, select the text in the console, then ctl+v or middle click to paste
[02:54] <holycow> was the optional installer available for testing before? weird i don't remember that
[02:54] <troy_> anyone else here having a release party?
[02:54] <RandolphCarter> aledie: there you go then :) I just installed from scratch, and my debian_version's testing/unstable also
[02:54] <rsk> troy_: im gonna have one tonight :)
[02:54] <troy_> hehe
[02:54] <TobiasFar> rambo3, the lsb_release -d command just returns the name, is there a way to get the version number? Or just: Is  Ubuntu (The Breezy Badger Release) == Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[02:54] <McNutella> troy_, having one myself with couple friends in my street, since I provide netaccess to them all via wifi :)
[02:54] <holycow> heh look made it on slashdot
[02:54] <troy_> lol
[02:54] <holycow> oh man are the servers ever gonna burn
[02:55] <aledie> i actually used dapper for monthes, just today tried dist-upgrade, nothing happened
[02:55] <livingdaylight> aledie; haha, ready to join the Ubuntu-Mexican Wave?
[02:55] <troy_> just got home and drinking beer byu myself, is that a party?
[02:55] <YogSothoth> I see here http://tinyurl.com/jrnol that there is a X-Chat GNOME Message Notification: well I don't have it enabled it seems. How can I enable it?
[02:55] <RandolphCarter> TobiasFar: lsb_release -r
[02:55] <holycow> well congratulations to all the devs an dparticapants and community
[02:55] <grimboy> wheelswitch, Doesn't work
[02:55] <aLd> thanx everyone now at 12%
[02:55] <Fee^> 6.06 LTS is not the new full version... is it?
[02:55] <holycow> i had dapper whatever installed 3 days ago for a client and it is working great
[02:55] <troy_> i'm at 29%
[02:55] <tuxtheslacker> :-( this thing is giving me crap about picasa breaking randomly :-/.
[02:55] <aledie> tried to check and saw testing/unstable, so just was currios about if i am really on stable now
[02:55] <Fee^> i've got that from 5/23
[02:55] <TIIPOS> I need help, I need an ideal source list, I have used "source o matic" but the list that it constructed for me was incredibly unreliable, I am constantly getting stalled downloads when I use synaptic, could someone please link me to an ideal dapper srouce list?
[02:55] <aledie> i actually used unstable since february
[02:56] <TobiasFar> RandolphCarter, thx
[02:56] <wheelswitch> grimboy, so you are selecting, as in highlighting, in ubuntu, then middle clicking wher eyou want the txt and it isnt working?
[02:56] <holycow> tuxmaniac, well its a shitty windows app .. send some hatemail to google and get them to actually develop it using a real toolkit like qt or gtk
[02:56] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell TIIPOS about sources
[02:56] <livingdaylight> ubotu tell grimboy about Warty, hehe
[02:56] <troy_> !sources
[02:56] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:56] <tuxtheslacker> is there a way I can do a slocate with excluding a directory?
[02:56] <sybariten> ubotu tell me about fcuking kbd layouts
[02:57] <troy_> lol
[02:57] <livingdaylight> haha
[02:57] <gnomefreak> sybariten: watch your language
[02:57] <troy_> ubotu is a bot?
[02:57] <aledie> livingdaylight, I am in Hong Kong ;)
[02:57] <ubotu> troy_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:57] <sybariten> troy_: yeah ... and he didnt know that one
[02:57] <sybariten> gnomefreak: hey, ubotu used the same bad language when replying!
[02:57] <Cas> tuxtheslacker: you can pipe the output to grep and include/exclude more keywords
[02:57] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell troy_ about you
[02:57] <livingdaylight> aledie; haha, London, i see the wave coming  '<
[02:57] <aledie> livingdaylight, if still can get a ticket to mexico, what i doubt
[02:58] <tuxtheslacker> Cas, how would I exclude a keyword?
[02:58] <melodie> hello, are there many on the torrrents to dl Dapper ?
[02:58] <Cas> tuxtheslacker: locate foo | grep bar, see man grep for more
[02:58] <grimboy> wheelswitch, I've tried it several times, and yes, that's exacly what happens
[02:58] <tubbie> netstream[eth1: Receiving 275 KB/s, Sending 47 KB/s] 
[02:58] <snoops> okay..no definitely no grub
[02:59] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; i'm 24 minutes away from launching operation dapper Dapper, hehe, i'm so excited!
[02:59] <nealmcb> June 1st @ 18h00 - The Colorado LoCo Team's Release Party, June 1st. 18:00 - Location - Ziggy's Cafe, 4th & Main, Longmont.
[02:59] <bliss_> anybody got the sources line to upgrade fron 5-10 server to 6.06 server?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell bliss_ about sources
[02:59] <Hamurabbi> if i download the "server" release, i386, can i switch from gnome to kde ?
[02:59] <scheuri> bliss_: just exchange the word breezy with the word dapper
[02:59] <holycow> no, it doesn't come with a desktop
[02:59] <livingdaylight> GUYS, any of you from London. Where's the Party?!
[03:00] <gnomefreak> Hamurabbi: server install does use either of them but you can install whatever one you like
[03:00] <bliss_> gnomefreak: thanks i looked in wiki already
[03:00] <tuxtheslacker> what does unhandled page fualt on read access to 0x003c002f at address 0x7bebe9a mean?
[03:00] <grimboy> wheelswitch, I would just type it out, but it keeps scrolling off the terminal and then reoccuring
[03:00] <smo> Any opinions as to which torrent could most benefit a seeder? I've put about 12GiB into desktop-i386, but with multiple disks, unsure which is most in demand
[03:00] <bliss_> scheuri: interesting thought
[03:00] <gnomefreak> bliss_: whats wrong with that sources.list in the pastebin?
[03:01] <grimboy> wheelswitch, the basic message is unable to initialize frontend: Gnome
[03:01] <snoops> okay..here's the issue I installed 6.06 amd64 with graphical installer. It asked for which partition to install to. I chose my windows hdd, which had 100gb unpartitioned space. I setup a / partition and a swap partition. Then it said it would install.. It said it installed..then asked me to restart and take the cd out
[03:01] <snoops> I do that.. then it loads xp
[03:01] <snoops> so..what happened to grub?
[03:01] <snoops> and choosing a boot partition
[03:02] <bliss_> gnomefreak: ok sorry that might help looked else where
[03:02] <MacSlow> Am I imagining things or is www.ubuntuforums.com currently hammered a lot? Responses feel sluggish atm.
[03:02] <ocult> hello
[03:02] <livingdaylight> Hey, lets all go over to Mark's place, i hear he's throwing a party!
[03:02] <rsk> slasdotted..
[03:02] <tuxtheslacker> what does unhandled page fualt on read access to 0x003c002f at address 0x7bebe9a mean?
[03:02] <tuxtheslacker> does that mean I have bad ram???
[03:02] <MacSlow> rsk, ah might be
[03:02] <ocult> always in drapper drake  beta or final.. i have problem with resolution screen
[03:02] <kspath> MacSlow: release day? What do you think?
[03:02] <holycow> snoops, at the end of that there should of been a line asking you 'install grub to /boot or boot sector'
[03:02] <ocult> somebody know how solve this ?
[03:02] <Grout58> is the sudo apt-get dist upgrade working yet?
[03:02] <Doso> MacSlow: I cant reach it either :] 
[03:02] <pimkie> helloooooo
[03:02] <rambo3> tuxtheslacker, more like vm
[03:02] <grimboy> MacSlow, DAPPER IS TEH ROCKER topics x 1000
[03:02] <holycow> snoops, i think there is some funkyness going on ... not sure yet i can't download anything, too slow
[03:02] <livingdaylight> grimboy, you got the beers in the cooler?
[03:02] <GnarusLeo> hey, I have kubuntu now, how would I approach to upgarde to the new system?
[03:02] <heanol> is the dapper release the same as the rc?
[03:02] <tuxtheslacker> rambo3, vm?
[03:02] <snoops> holycow never saw that option
[03:02] <sybariten> ok i dont wanna be a grumpy bitch... well more than i already am... but couldnt we just keep the "OMG Dapper is so fresh :) :) :) WTF where is the ghayest release partay???!!!" discussions in the ubuntu-offtopic chan?
[03:03] <pimkie> i can a good boy for sex
[03:03] <holycow> snoops, neither did i with my first cd
[03:03] <rambo3> virtual memory , (paging)
[03:03] <pradeep> guys, can someone point me to the link which has the changes/improvements in dapper compared to breezy?
[03:03] <heanol> snoops, exact same thing happened to me
[03:03] <rsk> heanol: yeah if you update
[03:03] <snoops> it did say however that it was installing grub
[03:03] <grimboy> livingdaylight, No, cheap beer doesn't need to be cooled.
[03:03] <tuxtheslacker> virtual memory rambo3 ??
[03:03] <MacSlow> kspath, well it feels so strange to see/read all the fuss... I mean.. it feels everybody "around me" tried and installed Dapper druing it dev-phase already :)
[03:03] <snoops> heanol worked out the fix?
[03:03] <snoops> :)
[03:03] <livingdaylight> grimboy, kekeke
[03:03] <thoreauputic> pimkie: no more of that thanks
[03:03] <gnomefreak> sybariten: i will not warn you again about your language
[03:03] <heanol> nope, i tried to manually install lilo but it borked
[03:03] <TIIPOS> yeah I have done that
[03:03] <holycow> snoops, if its an issue you will haveto wait for an updated release
[03:03] <snoops> ugh
[03:03] <heanol> i've never had much luck with grub so i blamed it on grub
[03:03] <livingdaylight> sybariten, what's up sister, you seem uptight?
[03:03] <snoops> well that's really frustrating
[03:03] <tanek> anyone using dapper on a laptop with synaptics touchpad?
[03:04] <Grout58> sudo apt-get dist upgrade isnt working for me
[03:04] <pimkie> snoopss....
[03:04] <snoops> I was really looking forward to using it..
[03:04] <chimai> tanek : yup.
[03:04] <holycow> snoops, its actually common with ubuntu
[03:04] <tuxtheslacker> tanek, I'm on breezy witha  synaptics touchpad.
[03:04] <holycow> snoops, last ubuntu release was a disaster
[03:04] <snoops> I skipped breezy :)
[03:04] <sybariten> gnomefreak: uh ... what? are there christian rules to what you can say and not here? please tell me what part of my sentence that upset you
[03:04] <snoops> last one I used was warty
[03:04] <tanek> do u have probs with it beeing hypersensitive?
[03:04] <thoreauputic> holycow: it was? I didn't think so...
[03:04] <grimboy> snoops, the difference wasn't that significant
[03:04] <snoops> dapper feels nice
[03:05] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sybariten -about language
[03:05] <holycow> thoreauputic, totally, i had loads of machines that couldn't automount cds or mount floppies
[03:05] <Tenshi> did something happen to the "sharpmusique" package?
[03:05] <GnarusLeo> hey, I have kubuntu now, how would I approach to upgarde to the new system?
[03:05] <heanol> can i boot up my installed system from the install/live cd? like using it as a rescue disc? :P
[03:05] <snoops> and wow..detected by sata drives first go..
[03:05] <holycow> or usb disks
[03:05] <GnarusLeo> ? upgrade
[03:05] <GnarusLeo> ! upgrade
[03:05] <ubotu> hmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[03:05] <bliss_> gnomefreak: from the list at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 which is appliable to upgrade from 5-10 server to 6.06 server there are two src sections?
[03:05] <dooglus> snoops: did you try using lilo instead of grub?  I've never managed to get grub to work.
[03:05] <LinuxJones> sybariten, there are rules in the channel please try to obey them.
[03:05] <sybariten> livingdaylight: nothing, its just that there are 1000 people here and if a lot of them just wanna say that they wanna throw a party or something, it may be a good idea to split people between the ubuntu chan and the ubuntu-offtopic chan .. just an idea
[03:05] <tanek> i hardly touch it and it considers that a double tap, plus the acceleration is so god damn annoying
[03:05] <snoops> I don't want to screw with this hdd too much dooglus
[03:05] <thoreauputic> holycow: hmm - OK, I didn't see that here, but then I have only a small home network
[03:05] <livingdaylight> sybariten, this is a christian ubuntu channel, hehehe...Re:offtopic? thhis is happy Dapper day, everyone is allowed to let it hang out a bit
[03:05] <gnomefreak> bliss_: those are extra repos they aide in building stuff
[03:05] <tuxtheslacker> are there any known problems with the linux usb drivers, and linux? because this thing struggles with reading/using SUB devices.
[03:06] <snoops> because I would bloody HATE to have to reinstall applications on my xp install
[03:06] <thoreauputic> holycow: oh, yes, floppies were a problem - that I remember
[03:06] <sybariten> livingdaylight: yeah yeah, i guess youre right
[03:06] <heanol> dooglus, how the heck do you use lilo with the graphical installer?
[03:06] <Paradoxx> hmm, will there be a party here?
[03:06] <Kholerabb1> Whats this about Desktop and Server cds, is desktop a combination of LiveCD and installation CD??
[03:06] <kahuna_> Hi.Can I upgrade by soing s/breezy/dapper, then apt-get update && apt-get dift-upgrade?
[03:06] <tanek> cant find any programs for configuring it... any ideas tuxtheslacker, chimai ?
[03:06] <Most_Wanted> wicked
[03:06] <kahuna_> err, that without the typos that is :)
[03:06] <dooglus> heanol: I don't know.  I installed it when I installed warty
[03:06] <Paradoxx> lol, the mirrors are gettin trashed
[03:06] <heanol> ok
[03:06] <tuxtheslacker> tanek, mine was picked up on install.
[03:06] <chimai> tanek : no idea. It works perfectly by default
[03:06] <dooglus> heanol: or was he called hoary.  I forget.
[03:06] <Mirv> anyone has a quick ling to the official ubuntu logo image? small size?
[03:06] <thoreauputic> kahuna_: except for the typo, yes :)
[03:06] <Mirv> ling=link
[03:06] <snoops> dooglus..right well the graphical installer does not ask you to install grub, or ask you to specify the boot partition
[03:07] <tanek> wierd... mine does not work good at all :(
[03:07] <snoops> so.. major frustration for me
[03:07] <holycow> thoreauputic, if i dist upgraded the entire 200 machines ... i would of been seriously *effed* ... i can't complain about free really it simply could of been terrible
[03:07] <livingdaylight> sybariten: well i went to ubuntu+1 but it was dead. Hey, you're ok, you know? where is your party at? i might come and crash, hehe  ;)
[03:07] <grimboy> Wow, the new ubuntu.com is sexy
[03:07] <kahuna_> Any issues with breezy->dapper or will I be all set after the dist-upgrade?
[03:07] <dooglus> snoops: so the installation has been streamlined?  :)
[03:07] <livingdaylight> grimboy; yea! you just noticed? Its smoooooooth
[03:07] <h3sp4wn> tuxtheslacker: Linux usb2 code is not very good (generally) especially on flaky hardware does it work using 1.1 in the bios ?
[03:07] <bliss_> gnomefreak: so its just the deb http  sections for 6.06 server?
[03:07] <thoreauputic> holycow: I imagine so - were the bugs squashed fairly fast after release?
[03:07] <snoops> dooglus most definitely has
[03:07] <heanol> snoops, please tell me if you solve it somehow.
[03:07] <sybariten> livingdaylight: hehe, no party here, i just want a global keyboard layout that works in X aswell as console, then i might take a shot of Baileys or something
[03:07] <bimberi> !tell kahuna_ about upgrade
[03:07] <Most_Wanted> those mirrors are too slow :(
[03:07] <Frogzoo> !tell Paradoxx about torrent
[03:07] <snoops> heanol I doubt I'll be the one to solve it
[03:08] <Frogzoo> !torrent
[03:08] <Monmouth> How much free space does one need in order to do an upgrade?
[03:08] <dooglus> grimboy: you think that's sexy?  do you fancy the 'support' guy?
[03:08] <heanol> can i boot up my installed system from the install/live cd? like using it as a rescue disc? :P
[03:08] <snoops> consider I'm not willing to mess about with this hdd
[03:08] <Frogzoo> !tell Most_Wanted about torrent
[03:08] <Most_Wanted> !tell everybody to stop telling !
[03:08] <snoops> considering*
[03:08] <livingdaylight> sybariten; hahaha, doesn't seem to much to ask for
[03:08] <holycow> thoreauputic, they werent squashed at all actually.  the bugs were moved to dapper for fixing ...
[03:08] <tuxtheslacker> h3sp4wn, what do you mean using 1.1 in the bios?
[03:08] <heanol> snoops, well i did and made my windows unbootable, it sucked :) hehe
[03:08] <kahuna_> Thanks.
[03:08] <tuxtheslacker> h3sp4wn, can I turn 2.0 off, and use 2.0 devices?
[03:08] <Most_Wanted> i have one Frogzoo
[03:08] <thoreauputic> holycow: hmm :-(
[03:08] <snoops> heanol - that's exactly the kind of thing I couldn't afford to do right now
[03:08] <Most_Wanted> hmm as soon as i downloaded it i will throw a mirror up myself :)
[03:09] <_mason> !opengl
[03:09] <ubotu> _mason: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:09] <gnomefreak> bliss_: the src repos are fine you dont _need_ them but handy to have
[03:09] <kahuna_> Update-manager doesn't tell me there's an upgrade available. odd.
[03:09] <Hattori> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 this one is good to upgrade to 6.06 too?
[03:09] <_mason> !openGL
[03:09] <sybariten> LinuxJones: sure there are rules... i've just never seen anyone being offended on irc by the word "bitch" before. It means female dog or something and its even turned into a verb these days ("hes always the first to bitch").
[03:09] <ubotu> _mason: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:09] <Paradoxx> Frogzoo: thx much, thats what i was actually looking for
[03:09] <kahuna_> But I do it the "old way" anyway
[03:09] <holycow> thoreauputic, in other words, i am expecticng similar this time around ... teams tend to develop quirks like that
[03:09] <kimo> kahuna_: update it first
[03:09] <Frogzoo> Paradoxx: cool, yw
[03:09] <grimboy> dooglus, I meant it looked maccy with the widescreens everywhere, but you obviouly consider the support guy to be something
[03:09] <kspath> _mason: /msg ubotu opengl
[03:09] <Fee^> is the 6.06 LTS == the release? i've noticed system update doesn't pick anything up
[03:09] <Most_Wanted> where's the torrent link ?
[03:09] <ivano> ciao ao ao
[03:09] <Frogzoo> !torrent
[03:09] <_mason> ok kspath
[03:09] <kimo> Fee^: update the update-manager first
[03:09] <LinuxJones> sybariten, dude it's considered cursing here.
[03:09] <Most_Wanted> !torrent ?
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Most_Wanted: in the /topic
[03:09] <chainlynx> the main page has dapper up now as the main download
[03:09] <Fee^> kimo: how?
[03:09] <Most_Wanted> aha oke ty thoreauputic
[03:10] <Frogzoo> !tell Most_Wanted about torrent
[03:10] <h3sp4wn> tuxtheslacker: You can (they are backwards compatible) kmod-usb2 is pretty buggy but usb-uhci and usb-ohci seem to be more reliable
[03:10] <bliss_> gnomefreak: all i need is to upgrade from 5-10 server to 6.06 sever
[03:10] <dooglus> grimboy: I was kind of getting aroused by the new design until his image loaded, and then I was back with my old friend Mr. Floppy.
[03:10] <snoops> oh yeah, 6.06 totally doesn't support 1920x1200 res..I'm gonna have to add that myself
[03:10] <kimo> Fee^: apt-get update && apt-get install update-manager
[03:10] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; after i've upgraded to Dapper, will i have to take care of repos, or is that handled during the upgrade/update section automatically?
[03:10] <Fee^> kimo: thankee :)
[03:10] <tuxtheslacker> h3sp4wn, I have usb-uhci installed.
[03:10] <Hattori> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 this one is good to upgrade to 6.06 too?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> bliss_: than keep your sources.list file and change the words breezy to dapper
[03:10] <MistaED> snoops: 1920x1200 works here
[03:11] <snoops> MistaED this is with the live cd?
[03:11] <tuxtheslacker> anyone know if a restart will fix this unhandeled page fault on read access to  0x003c002f at address 0x7bebe9fa
[03:11] <tuxtheslacker> ?
[03:11] <tuxtheslacker> ^^ is this a ram error?
[03:11] <h3sp4wn> tuxtheslacker: Have you ehci_hcd loaded also ?
[03:11] <snoops> because I haven't been able to get into the installed machine - because of the lack of grub in the install
[03:11] <sybariten> LinuxJones: ok, well, didnt know that. There should be a blacklist or something somewhere. For non-americans (or non-brits, etc) its sometimes hard to estimate if the word "blabla" will be offensive or not (and ofcourse one always tries to use it anyhow)
[03:11] <Frogzoo> !tell kimo about torrent
[03:11] <grimboy> dooglus, It's kind of disturbing that you'd rather be a technophile than a admit that the support guy is sexy.
[03:11] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; man, i'm counting on you?  :o
[03:11] <MistaED> snoops: nah an install, got nvidia video?
[03:11] <Most_Wanted> my download is going with 6.6 KB/sec lol
[03:11] <RandolphCarter> snoops: do you have a Ubuntu live-cd lying around?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: for what?
[03:11] <snoops> yep MistaED
[03:11] <Frogzoo> Most_Wanted: 90kB/s here :D
[03:12] <dooglus> grimboy: what does technophile mean again?
[03:12] <tuxtheslacker> h3sp4wn, yup.
[03:12] <snoops> RandolphCarter I've got the 6.06 desktop cd - which has a live cd
[03:12] <Most_Wanted> will take 30 days before i have ubuntu 6.06 ROFLMAOPIMP
[03:12] <snoops> well, I mean which is a live cd/graphical installer
[03:12] <sybariten> are there any other packages related to "locale" that will affect how my terminal behaves? uh, i mean, what kbd layout it uses
[03:12] <kimo> tuxtheslacker: try to enable ECC in BIOS
[03:12] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; oh, you missed my post to you. After my dapper upgrade/ update do i need to take care of repos?
[03:12] <Frogzoo> Most_Wanted: if the repos don't actually fall over
[03:12] <RandolphCarter> snoops: okay, you can use that to boot, mount the partitions you installed Ubuntu to in a terminal and then 'chroot' into it
[03:12] <MistaED> snoops: the nv driver only supports up to 1280x1024 for me, i needed the prop driver to get 1920x1200
[03:12] <Jowi> h3sp4wn: yeah, i'm trying to update and install some stuff and the main fr.archive servers are damn slow. then I remembered the date :)
[03:12] <fatalblu> so how is it?
[03:12] <Most_Wanted> lol Frogzoo
[03:12] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; or is that handled automatically?
[03:12] <tuxtheslacker> killefiz, what would that do?
[03:12] <Paradoxx> wow, who are ubuntu teams hosts
[03:12] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: no you shouldnt have to
[03:12] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; Cooool
[03:12] <RandolphCarter> snoops: then you can run grub-install and grub-update
[03:13] <sybariten> or maybe i should restart X before i complain ...  is a ctrl-bckspace enough on ubuntu? to really exit X ?
[03:13] <GNAM> CDs of Shipit program are RW? :P
[03:13] <rackerz> When automatix closes, it asks me if I want to save the sources.list that is uses, should i let it save?
[03:13] <kimo> sybariten: ctrl + alt + <-
[03:13] <grimboy> dooglus, Recently, the idea of technophilia is also used in connection with a behavior which realizes forms of sexual deviance with the help of the computer and the Internet.
[03:13] <kahuna_> Congrats on keeping up w/ the demand guys.
[03:13] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; by the way you Rock. Did anyone ever tell you that? All the help you've given to me personally and hundreds others like me here ... solid gold man...
[03:13] <dooglus> grimboy: either way, my point is that he isn't.  he's all lumpy and funny looking.  I can see they're trying to show they've got geeks who can help out, but is he the best they could find for the photoshoot?
[03:13] <h3sp4wn> tuxtheslacker: Just try forcing it to usb 1.1 (see motherboard manual) test it then
[03:13] <Most_Wanted> hmm, when are the shipping cd's coming ?
[03:13] <snoops> uhh.. I really don't know my linux terminal commands..so mounting a few drives I can do..
[03:13] <Fee^> update-manager is already the newest version.
[03:13] <rackerz> When automatix closes, it asks me if I want to save the sources.list that is uses, should i let it save?
[03:13] <Fee^> o.O
[03:13] <snoops> but the whole chrooting stuff I haven't done
[03:13] <Fee^> kimo
[03:14] <RandolphCarter> snoops: that's about it, to chroot just type "chroot /path/you/mounted/drives"
[03:14] <gnomefreak> Most_Wanted: you can order them they will be shipped soona nd you will get them 4-6 weeks
[03:14] <h3sp4wn> !schroot
[03:14] <ubotu> h3sp4wn: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:14] <Russell-> list.ubuntu.com mailing list down?
[03:14] <neoXite> would the de.archive.ubuntu.com mirror already have the current final repo?
[03:14] <kimo> Fee^: updating from Breezy ?
[03:14] <snoops> so I don't feel confident - and the risk of screwing up this hdd's boot partition isn't an option
[03:14] <kimo> !upda
[03:14] <ubotu> kimo: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:14] <kimo> !update
[03:14] <ubotu> kimo: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:14] <Fee^> kimo: no, 6.06 LTS
[03:14] <Frogzoo_away> Russell-: all the servers are getting belted
[03:14] <RandolphCarter> snoops: you can always fix it with a windows boot disk (fdisk /mbr)
[03:14] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; like i said - you rock - let the love in man.. hehe
[03:14] <ivoks> so, 1045 people :)
[03:14] <kimo> Fee^: from dapper to dapper ?
[03:14] <antibios> razerz did automatix work well on 6.06
[03:14] <ivoks> everybody busy installing? :)
[03:15] <snoops> umm..the windows floppy boot disk?
[03:15] <theine> !automatix
[03:15] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[03:15] <ompaul> !automatix
[03:15] <Frogzoo_away> !tell ivoks about torrent
[03:15] <rackerz> automatix works great on 6.06
[03:15] <snoops> or you mean the xp install disc?
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[03:15] <dr_willis> ivoks:   just doing an apt-get dist-upgrade here. :P
[03:15] <igorzolnikov> how can i set gateway? I want use ifconfig and route...
[03:15] <snoops> I haven't had a floppy drive in any of my machines for years
[03:15] <kimo> Fee^: if so, u just need to dist-upgrade
[03:15] <Fee^> kimo: yeah.. wondering if it is actually an upgrade.. the 5/23(5) LTS to what came out today
[03:15] <grimboy> dooglus, Why are you intent on being mean about that guy?
[03:15] <rackerz> can somebody tell me if it's wise to save the sources.list automatix uses?
[03:15] <Paradoxx> anyone know of some good imaging software? I want to backup a windows installation and install ubuntu
[03:15] <RandolphCarter> snoops: :P then get a bootcd, Sysrescuecd has FreeDOS on it, the fdisk from there can repair it
[03:15] <ivoks> dr_willis: ah, update-manager -d is much nicer :)
[03:15] <Fee^> ok, so that answers my question, i've been dist-upgrading every night
[03:15] <GnarusLeo> Hi, can anyone please descrive how I update my kubuntu breezy to newest dapper? I still want my kde and all :) Anyone?
[03:16] <dr_willis> rackerz:  its not wise to use automatix at ALL.
[03:16] <kimo> Fee^: just "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -y'
[03:16] <theine> rackerz: it's wise to not use automatix at all
[03:16] <dooglus> grimboy: I'm not.  Just someone said the page was sexy.  I'm terribly sorry if that's you.
[03:16] <ompaul> antibios, it may work well on your machine we have seen it break often on many machines - we see on an on going basis, and the only solution for some people is to reinstall that is not a stable application
[03:16] <rackerz> how come? it's works well on Dapper apprently.
[03:16] <Most_Wanted> uh update manager ?
[03:16] <theine> dr_willis: :)
[03:16] <Frogzoo_away> Paradoxx: acronis true image is the best imo - then nortong ghost next
[03:16] <snoops> RandolphCarter.. thanks I think I'll just wait for a fix to come out - like a different cd
[03:16] <dr_willis> rackerz:  100's of reasons. Just say no.
[03:16] <rackerz> so i shouldn't save the sources.list automatix uses?
[03:16] <antibios> razerz if you save the source list then the programs that you donwloaded will be able to be updated... bt then you will have to update them each time you do apt-get update
[03:16] <snoops> I need to be able to use my xp install when I wake up, and the last thing I need is a screwed mbr
[03:17] <antibios> thanks ompaul
[03:17] <dr_willis> rackerz:  i would be doing a reinstall if you used automatix.
[03:17] <Paradoxx> Frogzoo_away: was hoping for somthing free, but i'll guess i can do with that
[03:17] <livingdaylight> rackerz; some say autocatix is problematic
[03:17] <kimo> Paradoxx: for a FOSS, try mondorescue
[03:17] <RandolphCarter> snoops: hmm, okay :/ it's really only five minutes work if you fancy trying it though, it comes in handy to know how to repair systems too :)
[03:17] <GnarusLeo> Hi, can anyone please descrive how I update my kubuntu breezy to newest dapper? I still want my kde and all :) Anyone?
[03:17] <Jowi> GnarusLeo: /msg ubotu upgrade
[03:17] <rackerz> hmmm. what would you suggest i used instead?
[03:17] <baby> i cannot copy and past anything to /usr/share/icons dir. How can i do it?
[03:17] <Most_Wanted> uh update manager GnarlyBob ?
[03:17] <dr_willis> automatix is very very poorly done in manmy ways
[03:17] <antibios> dr_willis what has been breaking in automatrix
[03:17] <grimboy> dooglus, Not me, but being a support guy for ubuntu would be alright compared to other support.
[03:17] <snoops> yep..but not at 1:14am on a work night RandolphCarter :)
[03:17] <Most_Wanted> GnarusLeo
[03:17] <Most_Wanted> sorry
[03:17] <dr_willis> rackerz:  learn how to install teh stuff yourself is the  best way
[03:17] <dr_willis> !automatix
[03:17] <Paradoxx> kimo: how good is it? have you used it before?
[03:17] <tuxtheslacker> can someone tell me what an unhandeled page eeror at (add random sector here) means?
[03:17] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[03:17] <tuxtheslacker> well, it's the same sector every time...
[03:17] <grimboy> !easyubuntu
[03:17] <ubotu> hmm... easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[03:17] <tuxtheslacker> but it just started breaking.
[03:17] <h3sp4wn> GnarusLeo: ask in #kubuntu
[03:17] <rackerz> i know how to install stuff myself, just takes me ages :(
[03:17] <RandolphCarter> snoops: ahh :P fair enough ^_^
[03:18] <Most_Wanted> !torrent
[03:18] <rixth> Wooop! I updated the main screenshot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29
[03:18] <kimo> Paradoxx: yep used it to bare metal restore Linux Fedora 5, (easy, works, havent used it on Windows though (but it say it's sup[ported))
[03:18] <dr_willis> rackerz:  do it once.. save your history  from the shell.. and then ya got your own script/notes :P
[03:18] <rackerz> ah, thanks dr_willis.
[03:18] <snoops> thanks though RandolphCarter... I appreciate it :)
[03:18] <theine> GnarusLeo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[03:18] <grimboy> Yay for rixth for making ubuntu look less like shit, literally.
[03:18] <dooglus> rackerz: or, type "script" before doing anything, and "exit" after, and you'll have a movie of you doing it in ./typescript
[03:19] <rackerz> Does easyubuntu do what automatix does? i mean does it install similar things without changing settings?
[03:19] <dr_willis> ive notiuced that installing suns java from the shell dont work. since it wants to pop up some eula agreement.
[03:19] <RandolphCarter> dr_willis: sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[03:19] <grimboy> rackerz, Yes, pretty much
[03:19] <RandolphCarter> dr_willis: select 'Dialog' and 'High', then try reinstalling sun-java
[03:19] <Jack-Ho> hey dose any one have the 8.24.8 version of the ati pkg?
[03:19] <tuxtheslacker> hey, would unhandeled page error be a bad stick or ram or ???
[03:19] <rackerz> yeah i got a stupid popup for flash and java.
[03:19] <theine> dr_willis: did you try to install sun-java5-jre?
[03:19] <rackerz> thanks grimboy
[03:19] <Celestar> yay
[03:19] <dr_willis> RandolphCarter:  ok. :P i just notoced that last night.  that i had to fire up synaptic to install that java package.
[03:20] <Xymor> hey, anyonw got a ed2k link for the i386 dvd?
[03:20] <rackerz> so dr_willis would you suggest a re-install if i've used automatix?
[03:20] <Celestar> installer is slow as hell
[03:20] <pettman> is there a changelogg for dapper?
[03:20] <AJ004> hi
[03:20] <spikeb> !automatix
[03:20] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[03:20] <dr_willis> rackerz:  i think most of in here would suggest that.
[03:20] <AJ004> question:  I installed RC1, do i need to reinstall the final release?
[03:20] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[03:20] <spikeb> no AJ004
[03:20] <gnomefreak> AJ004: no just update
[03:20] <AJ004> or can i just use updater to get the final version
[03:20] <rackerz> this is different from the forums, alot of them there suggest automatix.
[03:20] <tuxtheslacker> can someone please tell me?
[03:20] <dr_willis> update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge
[03:21] <feisar> how's the driver support between amd64 and i386?
[03:21] <theine> AJ004: you can just upgrade
[03:21] <Saelynh> hello
[03:21] <AJ004> theine how?
[03:21] <javiolo> !flash
[03:21] <grimboy> For some reason the update is displaying all the upgrades via dialog. I think it's not upgraded my gnome
[03:21] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:21] <AJ004> update-manager -d?
[03:21] <AJ004> in terminal?
[03:21] <javiolo> hi
[03:21] <Most_Wanted> :S
[03:21] <Celestar> bah
[03:21] <gnomefreak> AJ004: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[03:21] <dr_willis> AJ004:  can ya think of anywhere else to tyope that? :P yes.. in a terminal..
[03:21] <phos-phoros> is anyone aware of any issues when upgrading from breezy to the latest dapper release while making use of update manager, and in having modified any mention of "breezy" to "dapper" within sources.list
[03:21] <Celestar> is there a non-ncurses based version of the installer?
[03:21] <Celestar> that one is slow as well...
[03:21] <phos-phoros> I mean, it is that simple, correct?
[03:22] <livingdaylight> will i have to reconfigure my linksys wireless pci card after dist-ypgrade?
[03:22] <chapium> AJ004: in the terminal, yes or thru gksudo.  Its similar to apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:22] <grimboy> dr_willis, alt-f2
[03:22] <gnomefreak> phos-phoros: yes
[03:22] <RandolphCarter> Celestar: you can use the LiveCD and install from there
[03:22] <theine> AJ004: you can also just update like you would normally do using synaptic
[03:22] <spikeb> Celestar, yes, the desktop cd
[03:22] <phos-phoros> gnomefreak, thanks.
[03:22] <gnomefreak> brb gotta test something
[03:22] <Celestar> spikeb: I mean just text based nothing GUI
[03:22] <Hattori> delnetwork u
[03:22] <AJ004> warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)
[03:22] <Celestar> spikeb: I have a 9600 baud serial connection .... I need something thin
[03:22] <javiolo> is there flash por ppc ?
[03:22] <AJ004> huh?
[03:22] <theine> AJ004: you only need update-manager if you upgrade to a new major releae
[03:22] <AJ004> should i ignore the warnings.warn?
[03:22] <rackerz> If I don't use the sources.list from automatix will the programs it install not be able to be updated?
[03:22] <theine> AJ004: don't worry about it
[03:23] <feisar> hmm
[03:23] <tuxtheslacker> what happens if I cancel an upgrade with dist-upgrade?
[03:23] <spikeb> Celestar, then you're stuck with the ncurses installer
[03:23] <traveller> hm...can anyone tell me how i can enable YUY2 overlay using fglrx driver? tvtime works with the ati driver but not fglrx
[03:23] <tuxtheslacker> er I mean update-manager?
[03:23] <AJ004> theine i was at rc1
[03:23] <RandolphCarter> tuxtheslacker: there be dragons
[03:23] <rackerz> If I don't use the sources.list from automatix will the programs it install not be able to be updated?
[03:23] <LinuxJones> tuxmaniac, unless it started installing packages...nothing
[03:23] <javiolo> is there flash por ppc ?
[03:23] <thoreauputic> tuxtheslacker: don't go there
[03:23] <AJ004> theine doesnt look like any updates for final
[03:23] <javiolo> is there flash for ppc ?
[03:23] <grimboy> If I'm upgrading and it goes all weird will sudo apt-get upgrade save me?
[03:23] <ompaul> rackerz, well we see the fall out and are willing in particular to point to log files of irc that show the problems people have had with it - as it overwrites config files if it can't restore the originals it breaks badly and that can be a real problem for a new user.
[03:23] <AJ004> unless they came out yesterday
[03:23] <tuxtheslacker> RandolphCarter, I'm unfortunately being serious.... I am getting 14 k/s :-(
[03:23] <Fee^> kimo: apparently i'm current...it doesn't want to upgrade anything else :)
[03:23] <AJ004> and i didnt notice
[03:23] <theine> AJ004: then you can just do "sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" or use synaptic
[03:23] <Xymor> dvd == server + desktop, right?
[03:23] <grimboy> javiolo, try crossover office or wine.
[03:23] <RandolphCarter> tuxtheslacker: ahh, if it's only downloading, you should be okay
[03:24] <Celestar> spikeb: guess I gotta be patient then :)
[03:24] <rackerz> ompual, thanks :)
[03:24] <Jowi> tuxtheslacker: depends on how far it has gone. if it has not installed anything yet it should be safe to cancel it.
[03:24] <fatalblu> ubuntu came out! how fabulous!
[03:24] <LinuxJones> Xymor, yes
[03:24] <Xymor> ok thanks
[03:24] <rackerz> looks like i'll be back later in 10 minutes then. install time!
[03:24] <tuxtheslacker> how can I cancel it? hahahahaha!
[03:24] <dr_willis> rackerz:  now you see one of the issues with automatix.  its not by the actual ubuntu guys.. and now you are asking support questions for a script that they dident make. and  they suggest to not use. :P Gets on their nerves after a while.
[03:24] <theine> AJ004: there were very few updates in the last couple of days
[03:24] <javiolo> grimboy I though that wine dont run over ppc, is that right ?
[03:24] <tuxtheslacker> should I just let it go?
[03:24] <LinuxJones> Xymor, type live at options for the live cd
[03:24] <Celestar> hm
[03:24] <thoreauputic> tuxtheslacker: interrupting an upgradeis kind of dangerous unless you know the install phase hasn't started yet
[03:24] <tuxtheslacker> or is this form of an upgrade unsafe?
[03:24] <kimo> Fee^: yeah ... updates stopped I think 1.5 days ago
[03:24] <ompaul> rackerz, when the software should just work - but its tackled badly, have a look at /msg ubotu easyubuntu but your much better off with the docs from help.ubuntu.com or the wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:24] <grimboy> javiolo, sorry I'm completely ignorant of other arcs
[03:24] <michaels> I just upgraded to Dapper and my mouse scrollwheel stopped working.
[03:24] <tuxtheslacker> thoreauputic, it hasn't.
[03:24] <javiolo> grimboy ok thanks
[03:24] <tubbie> guys, I'm runnign qemu with XGl here. and the qemu window is all transparent
[03:24] <Celestar> [   12.691250]  rtc_init: no PC rtc found
[03:24] <threat> where can I find the xubuntu or ubuntu PGP / GPG public key?
[03:25] <tubbie> I can hardly read the texts, any fix?
[03:25] <amd-64> hi all
[03:25] <rackerz> ok thanks guys :)
[03:25] <tuxtheslacker> I'll just let it go :-)
[03:25] <kimo> is this one big busy channel :)
[03:25] <Paradoxx> Is it possible in a SAFE way to resize a windows partition after install?...... I neeed to free p space for ubuntu
[03:25] <kspath> tubbie: quit screwing with xgl?
[03:25] <Fee^> kimo: its a big day :)
[03:25] <thoreauputic> tuxtheslacker: well, if you were using apt-get it would be safe to interrupt the download - not sure about the new method
[03:25] <michaels> help me. the upgrade killed my mouse scrollwheel. what do I do?
[03:25] <pio_> Hi
[03:25] <Celestar> I don't get the "Choose a language" screen
[03:25] <ompaul> !dualboot
[03:25] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[03:25] <joelbryan> anyone, does the install CD would be removed with only the installable Live CD?
[03:25] <Ng> Paradoxx: you could boot into a live CD and run parted, but no resizing is ever 100% safe, you should always take a backup first
[03:25] <jsestri2> Paradoxx: partion magic will do it
[03:25] <drayen> i've managed to funk up my apache2.conf and wanted to know where i could find a clean copy (nb, doing a --purge re-install isnt an option)
[03:25] <kimo> Paradoxx: ntfsresize
[03:25] <Xymor> i'll grab the dvd, my connection isn't fast enough for live installs :/
[03:25] <Celestar> I have 2 options: "English" and "C"
[03:25] <pio_> can you help my?
[03:25] <Celestar> :P
[03:25] <pio_> on my ubuntu
[03:26] <amd-64> Why ubuntu 6.06 doesn't have an option to install boot loader (Grub) ?
[03:26] <theine> Paradoxx: the safest way would probably be to use partition magic under windoes
[03:26] <Ng> drayen: download the .deb and extract it with dpkg-deb
[03:26] <LinuxJones> michaels, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only change mouse options.
[03:26] <thoreauputic> michaels:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose your mous options
[03:26] <tuxtheslacker> how do i cancel this update-magnager?
[03:26] <pio_> my openoffice menu widget and toolbart hide
[03:26] <theine> amd-64: it'll do that anyway
[03:26] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: too fast :)
[03:26] <Tinned_Tuna> bah, I think I'll just reinstall from a CD when it's downloaded
[03:26] <amd-64> theine: too bad !
[03:26] <LinuxJones> Xymor, live will boot into the livecd not a network install
[03:26] <fatalblu> where do I get bonzai buddy?
[03:26] <vader> see you peoples later when the text slows down to where I can read it lol
[03:27] <michaels> LinuxJones, thoreauputic, my xorg.conf is set right, should I still run that?
[03:27] <adolson> fatalblu: lol
[03:27] <tubbie> kspath, I odn't even know if it is Xgl at all
[03:27] <tuxtheslacker> fatalblu, I hope that was a joke....
[03:27] <thoreauputic> vader: heh
[03:27] <drayen> Ng. ahhh cheers
[03:27] <theine> amd-64: why? would you like to use lilo?
[03:27] <LinuxJones> thoreauputic, I am tweeked out with nictine withdrawls and caffine :)
[03:27] <Celestar> damnit
[03:27] <Cas> fatalblu: you'll need wine for that
[03:27] <jsestri2> what do you have to do to get to the latest release if you were already running dapper? apt-get update/apt-get upgrade?
[03:27] <LinuxJones> *nicotine
[03:27] <Celestar> I'm stuck at the keyboard selection
[03:27] <Bilford> Ubuntu on Slashdot
[03:27] <thoreauputic> michaels: yes , just change the mouse
[03:27] <fatalblu> what? he's my friend, i need to get weatherbug for weather reports too!
[03:27] <Bilford> postitive posts
[03:27] <adolson> lol
[03:27] <RandolphCarter> jsestri2: exactly, although dist-upgrade
[03:27] <squid> #ubuntu-es
[03:27] <Celestar> I have no keyboard installed :S
[03:27] <thoreauputic> michaels: leave everything else as is
[03:27] <leoncio> hola
[03:27] <michaels> okay thoreauputic thx
[03:27] <javiolo> !es
[03:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:27] <jsestri2> RandolphCarter: apt-get update/apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:28] <RandolphCarter> jsestri2: bingo :)
[03:28] <theine> amd-64: i'm sure there's a way to not install grub, but i haven't tried the new installer yet
[03:28] <linchriss> is there some program like deamontools for linux?
[03:28] <RandolphCarter> linchriss: it's built-in
[03:28] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[03:28] <bobesponja> is the torrent tracker dead?
[03:28] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:28] <tuxtheslacker> does an unhandled page error mean that I have bad ram?
[03:28] <kspath> linchriss: apt-cache search keyword
[03:28] <amd-64> theine: I can find that option
[03:28] <Celestar> will ubuntu discover other OSes that are installed during the boot process and insert them in the grub menu?
[03:28] <phos-phoros> man, how I wish line6 would provide support for linux regarding their guitarport software/hardware.
[03:29] <jbroome> Celestar: yes
[03:29] <theine> amd-64: maybe try the server install
[03:29] <Celestar> jbroome: any OS? ;)
[03:29] <amd-64> theine: :-P
[03:29] <theine> amd-64: no, really
[03:29] <jbroome> Celestar: it found win2k on my dual boot laptop
[03:29] <dr_willis> linchriss:  you may want to state what that program does.
[03:29] <leoncio> when is availabel dropper
[03:29] <amd-64> theine: rite
[03:29] <jbroome> leoncio: now
[03:29] <RandolphCarter> dr_willis: it's for mounting ISOs
[03:29] <kestas> Celestar: any OS which is bootable
[03:29] <leoncio> where?
[03:29] <leoncio> jbroome, where?
[03:29] <Madeye> ubotu !logo
[03:29] <ubotu> Madeye: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:30] <linchriss> it mounts a cdimage :)
[03:30] <theine> amd-64: i believe that will give you a minimal Ubuntu system, and one that is installed, just do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[03:30] <jbroome> leoncio: check the /topic
[03:30] <leoncio> jbroome, ok thanks
[03:30] <livingdaylight> leoncio: you mean Didier Dropper. He play for Chelsea you know?
[03:30] <RandolphCarter> linchriss: there should be an option to mount if you right click on the .iso file, failing that, http://www.linuxhelp.net/isos/
[03:30] <michaels> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[03:30] <surface> !server
[03:30] <michaels> thoreauputic
[03:30] <Madeye> ubotu ubuntu logo
[03:30] <amd-64> theine: Okie
[03:30] <ubotu> Madeye: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:30] <h3sp4wn> !debconf
[03:30] <psb154> ubuntu does not seem to install mount.cifs. This causes some mysterious samba read-only problems.
[03:31] <theine> amd-64: the text based installer that is used when you install Ubuntu server gives you more options I believe
[03:31] <surface> !desktop
[03:31] <linchriss> ok thanks RandolphCarter ;)
[03:31] <ubotu> The Desktop CD is the live CD with an install option
[03:31] <Celestar> kestas: good
[03:31] <tuxtheslacker> how do i get my repos back to stock?
[03:31] <leoncio> livingdaylight, yea
[03:31] <chapium> Hey everyone!  Want to help ubuntu out?  Start seeding some of those torrents
[03:31] <MacSlow> gee... you can see the forum-member count grow constantly atm
[03:31] <tuxtheslacker> I used update-manager -d and I cancelled when it was getting the repo lists.
[03:31] <sshrdp> ubotu fglrx
[03:31] <ubotu> fglrx is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:31] <AJ004> what is the next ubuntu after 6.06?
[03:31] <psb154> MacSlow I noticed that :-)
[03:31] <livingdaylight> leonicio; Ubuntu Dapper is going to win teh Wolrd Cup!
[03:31] <Jowi> linchriss: additional site in case you need. it is quite simple: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2524172
[03:31] <AJ004> there is no mention of anything past dapper
[03:31] <tubbie> any howto to run 2 X server?
[03:32] <baby> how can i add new icons to kubuntu. i downloaded a new icon pack and there r folders like 128x128 48x48 also there is a index.desktop so i created a folder in /usr/share/icon and coppied them in it but i cant see those icons on KDE customize?
[03:32] <kimo> tuxtheslacker: reboot and see for urself, probably nothing though :)
[03:32] <michaels> what do I do about that debconf error?
[03:32] <kestas> edgy eft
[03:32] <kestas> 6.10
[03:32] <kimo> tubbie: simple (X :1)
[03:32] <h3sp4wn> tubbie: xserver-xephr
[03:32] <tuxtheslacker> kimo, what?
[03:32] <Ng> AJ004: there is a conference soon to discuss it, there's little point talking about it until that has happened
[03:32] <Celestar> hm .. I could seed a torrent
[03:32] <meddlepal> Is Daps out?
[03:32] <MacSlow> AJ004, "Edgy Eft"
[03:32] <kspath> meddlepal: /topic
[03:32] <tuxtheslacker> kimo, what was that an answer to?
[03:32] <AJ004> thanks
[03:32] <linchriss> thanks again RandolphCarter
[03:32] <AJ004> ill google on edgy eft
[03:32] <livingdaylight> meddlepal; Dapper is Dope!
[03:32] <kimo> tubbie: or startx -- :1
[03:32] <MacSlow> AJ004, that the new codename for the new unstable branch
[03:32] <RandolphCarter> linchriss: np's :) good luck
[03:33] <grimboy> livingdaylight, OH NOES, we don't have a chance without warty, he has a broken wrist.
[03:33] <SV> how do i upgrade from 5 to 6 ?
[03:33] <thoreauputic> michaels: close any other instances of apt or aptitude or synaptic etc
[03:33] <theine> tuxtheslacker: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesCliHowto and substitute "dapper" for "breezy"
[03:33] <fatalblu> they should name the one after etch 'Frisky Ferret'
[03:33] <meddlepal> ah schweet
[03:33] <kspath> !upgrade
[03:33] <ubotu> hmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[03:33] <kimo> tuxtheslacker: u cancelled while getting list, so probably nothing is wrong
[03:33] <michaels> thoreauputic: don't think I have any open. I did before but I closed it.
[03:33] <meddlepal> hopefully my 5.10 upgrade goes smoother than the 6.06 RC one I did
[03:33] <tuxtheslacker> kimo, the little button in the corner is flipping out that it has 1011 upgrades that it can't install....
[03:33] <uma> hi
[03:34] <mau> hi
[03:34] <grimboy> tuxtheslacker, just click yes.
[03:34] <kimo> tuxtheslacker: why don't u want to continue ?
[03:34] <thoreauputic> michaels: is your update completely configured and finished?
[03:34] <Celestar> ok guys I'm seeing
[03:34] <theine> tuxtheslacker: why can't you install them?
[03:34] <thoreauputic> michaels: I suspect it wasn't
[03:34] <tuxtheslacker> kimo, I'm getting  5 kb/s
[03:34] <theine> tuxtheslacker: oh...
[03:34] <Madeye> weird, I'm trying to find high resolution copy of ubuntu logo but cant find any!
[03:34] <grimboy> tuxtheslacker, go make a cup of tea.
[03:34] <tuxtheslacker> I have the cd at 66%
[03:34] <michaels> thoreauputic: I think it wasn't... it gave me some error and shut down near the end...
[03:34] <phos-phoros> heh
[03:35] <mauti> hi
[03:35] <thoreauputic> michaels: the config process can take quite a while
[03:35] <Celestar> hm
[03:35] <grimboy> hey mauti
[03:35] <phos-phoros> and I thought 124k/s was a pain
[03:35] <Celestar> installation seems stuck at a blue screeen ...
[03:35] <Celestar> :P
[03:35] <nathansnook> hello
[03:35] <MacSlow> Madeye, there are vector-based version of it on the live/install CDs/ISOs
[03:35] <thoreauputic> michaels: hmm - try  sudo apt-get -f install
[03:35] <spikeb> !lart phos-phoros
[03:35] <mauti> Hello any first impressions of dapper drake yet ? I have just started downloading the iso image
[03:35] <RandolphCarter> Celestar: alt+f4 should take you to a log I think (alt+f1 to get back)
[03:35] <thoreauputic> michaels: or run  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:35] <grimboy> phos-phoros, why do I get a sudden urge to stab you with a fork?
[03:35] <Madeye> MacSlow, ohh thank you I didnt know that
[03:35] <tuxtheslacker> I should just blow the system away and see if that isn't the better thing to do :-P
[03:36] <tuxtheslacker> can someone send me a screenshot of the stock desktop?
[03:36] <michaels> thoreauputic: did -f install: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[03:36] <dr_willis> mauti:  its the same as the earlier releases.. :P works good.
[03:36] <gumpish> oh, so they decided to release it after all?
[03:36] <phos-phoros> grimboy, I have no idea...why do you get a sudden urge to stab me with a fork?
[03:36] <Astinus-> tuxtheslacker: looks same as 5.10
[03:36] <grimboy> tuxtheslacker, look at wikipedia
[03:36] <pio_> Openoffice icons are vanishing in gnome
[03:36] <Celestar> lets hope I'm not getting in to trouble for torrenting ...
[03:36] <Mark_> i simply cannot start the installation program, because during boot there is a problems with the cdrom. i get error like bad block. anyone?? had rpoblems with booting the cd (desktop 6.06)?
[03:36] <MacSlow> tuxtheslacker, http://www.ubuntu.com/include/img/desktop.png
[03:36] <grimboy> phos-phoros, I'm getting 2.8kb/s
[03:36] <gnomefreak> michaels: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:36] <thoreauputic> michaels: did you try  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   as well? Sometimes that fixes things...
[03:36] <phos-phoros> ouch
[03:36] <lucasvo> Celestar: why should you?
[03:36] <tuxtheslacker> what version of firefox ships with dapper?
[03:36] <kestas> Mark_: check MD5, burn again
[03:36] <scheuri> Mark_: problems during download? bad burning program?
[03:37] <spikeb> 1.5.0
[03:37] <Ocult> hello.. i cant change my screen resolution.. just in breezy
[03:37] <Jowi> Mark_: check the md5
[03:37] <Ocult> why ?
[03:37] <spikeb> .3
[03:37] <Celestar> lucasvo: just because I'm eating up bandwidth @ work :P
[03:37] <lucasvo> Celestar: ah
[03:37] <Mark_> Jowi, kestas, scheuri: MD5 was correct, i burned with nero
[03:37] <MacSlow> tuxtheslacker, 1.5.0.3
[03:37] <michaels> thoreauputic: just did, it only told me what packages were held back (and I'm uninstalling them now since they're not important)
[03:37] <Celestar> lucasvo: but ok, since our mirror down
[03:37] <Jowi> Mark_: try with another media
[03:37] <RandolphCarter> Ocult: the Gnome resolution config will only offer resolutions that are in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:37] <mauti> UBUNTU Rocks!! Why don't they give the directions in the main page itselves?
[03:37] <theine> Ocult: how do you try to change the screen resolution?
[03:37] <scheuri> Mark_: try burning it with a slower rate
[03:37] <kestas> Mark_: try burning slower
[03:37] <Mark_> Jowi, kestas, scheuri: and i had the same problem with RC
[03:37] <grimboy> Yay, a firefox that isn't crappy and old.
[03:37] <Ocult> >thefish<: system. preferences. screenresoltion
[03:37] <MacSlow> tuxtheslacker, but not 100% sure if that's before or after updates once you did a fresh install.
[03:37] <thoreauputic> michaels: so you still can't use dpkg-reconfigure?
[03:38] <lucasvo> Celestar: atm I have 65kbit upload
[03:38] <kestas> Mark_: could it be an HDD problem?
[03:38] <michaels> thoreauputic: will try again in a sec
[03:38] <Ocult> ((theine)): system. preferences. screenresoltion
[03:38] <mauti> theine: try ctrl+alt+(plus on your keypad)
[03:38] <thoreauputic> michaels: sounds like a lock file that needs removing
[03:38] <scheuri> Mark_: try burning it with 8x or max 16x
[03:38] <Celestar> lucasvo: somewhere near 250kbyte here
[03:38] <thefish> Ocult: ??? mistype?
[03:38] <michaels> thoreauputic: still the same problem there
[03:38] <tuxtheslacker> MacSlow, Just so long as there's a 1.5 series I'm happy :-) and once it updates :-P
[03:38] <Ocult> [theine] : all be strange..
[03:38] <cef> hrm.. the torrents are going well. over 683 GiB downloaded according to the tracker.. though the tracker seems to have stopped answering web requests for me
[03:38] <lucasvo> Celestar: well I am at home
[03:38] <charlotte> :)
[03:38] <Mark_> Jowi, kestas, scheuri: i cannot imagine, im doing it with a kubuntu cd though, but i think it doesnt matter
[03:38] <Ocult> [theine] : in breezy that work good
[03:38] <jordan> Seveas, sorry - I got dropped for a while... what were you saying about updating freenx for the dapper libs?
[03:38] <[HUN] Big_T> hi ubuntu users! :)
[03:38] <Celestar> lucasvo: 10 GBps pipe :)
[03:38] <theine> Ocult: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and hit enter until you reach the screen where you can change the screen resolution
[03:38] <MacSlow> tuxtheslacker, I constantly updated my system form badger to dapper starting some months ago
[03:38] <lucasvo> Celestar: cool
[03:38] <scheuri> charlotte: time to convert your landlord...:)
[03:38] <Celestar> lucasvo: pity the workstation is stuck with 100MBps :P
[03:38] <charlotte> haha i doubt he will
[03:39] <kork> the ubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso torrent isn't in good shape...
[03:39] <Jowi> Mark_: if you're using cdrw media, i would even test at x4. my cdburner act up sometimes
[03:39] <thoreauputic> michaels: OK - I'm not sure which file is the lock file for that but I think that is likely the problem
[03:39] <cef> ahh. 695GiB now
[03:39] <jordan> Seveas, I added the dapper repo, then did an update
[03:39] <charlotte> i only use windows for photoshop now
[03:39] <Mark_> Jowi, kestas, scheuri: i will try a ubuntu cd and burn it slower... should i try another burning program?
[03:39] <Celestar> lol
[03:39] <theine> Ocult: try the dpkg-reconfigure thing and i'm fairly sure the gnome tool will then work as expected too
[03:39] <Celestar> I'm downloading at 2.5MB/sec :o
[03:39] <michaels> thoreauputic: what is a lock file?
[03:39] <Ocult> [theine] : it work in livecd ?
[03:39] <cef> kork: same here.. there isn't enough seeds currently.. but it's getting better
[03:39] <scheuri> Mark_: try burning it slower first before changing programm
[03:39] <tuxtheslacker> charlotte, now I only use windows for my webcam I just bought :-(. that thing ticks me off like no other!
[03:39] <SV> i don't see the dapper upgrade in my update manger
[03:39] <leoncio> the torrent is bad
[03:39] <theine> Ocult: oh, you're using the live CD?
[03:39] <Mark_> scheuri, okay
[03:39] <scheuri> Mark_: and use CD-R instaed of CD-RW
[03:39] <Fabricio> ola....alguem pode me ajudar
[03:40] <Malith> Ubuntu
[03:40] <kspath> !br
[03:40] <leoncio> hola Fabricio
[03:40] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:40] <thoreauputic> michaels: it's a file that stops a process interfering - in this case with dpkg
[03:40] <grimboy> Celestar, That's actually 1000 times faster than me.
[03:40] <JoeyB2> I'm getting 110kB/s down with the torrent.. 2.5 more hours  :P
[03:40] <mauti> Celestar: good for you. Here it is like 64kpbs
[03:40] <Mark_> scheuri, yes i use imation CD-R
[03:40] <scheuri> Mark_: ah, okay
[03:40] <thoreauputic> michaels: a safety lock if you like
[03:40] <Celestar> mauti: what version? i386 ?
[03:40] <SV> someone ?
[03:40] <tuxtheslacker> leoncio, what torrent is bad?
[03:40] <[HUN] Big_T> can anyone help me with my ubuntu install? i get an error message when the system root is mounting: cdrom_pc_intr: the drive appears confused
[03:40] <michaels> thoreauputic: got it
[03:40] <scheuri> kspath: that was spanish, wasnt it?
[03:40] <Ocult> ((theine)): if i install the same problem happen
[03:40] <Madeye> MacSlow, Do you know where in the CD these images live ? the only images I found the splash .pcx and debian logo
[03:40] <Ocult> Hey, theine: i just cant understand why in breezy i dont have this problem
[03:40] <Mark_> scheuri, isnt there a way to check the cd from windows?
[03:40] <charlotte> hey i had a problem with installing ubuntu to this machine with the iso and installed it as data and was ok but my other machine had a problem with both and i want to put kubuntu on the other one and i've chosen the one for for lower ram to see if it'll work ok. i was just wondering if anyone had tried to install kubuntu on a slow machine and suceeded?
[03:40] <javiolo> scheuri no
[03:40] <kork> cef: you can actually watch how the data gets from the 2 seeds to the faster peers :)
[03:40] <leoncio> tuxmaniac, the torrent that is in www.ubuntu.com
[03:40] <Malith> Mi ubuntu es bueno. Gracias amigo.
[03:41] <Mark_> scheuri, like doing a md5 on iso
[03:41] <MacSlow> Madeye, in the "Examples" directory on the desktop once you booted into the live-cd
[03:41] <cef> kork: hehe
[03:41] <rixxon> i broke ubuntu :(
[03:41] <tuxtheslacker> leoncio, I got mine from somewhere else :-(
[03:41] <theine> Ocult: i'm sure it'll work one you install Ubuntu to hard disk
[03:41] <kork> 34,5% now
[03:41] <grimboy> rixxon, me too.
[03:41] <michaels> thoreauputic: well, after the upgrade crashed, I restarted and it seemed pretty much stuck on shutting down. all I had was my wallpaper and mouse cursor and no computer activity indicated on the lights. so I pressed the power button. may have interfered with something there.
[03:41] <tuxtheslacker> leoncio, I'm still downloading it though.
[03:41] <SV> i don't see the new upgrade in my update manger,what to do ?
[03:41] <mauti> Celestar: it is Pentium 4 356 MB RAM
[03:41] <rixxon> 'Software index is broken'
[03:41] <scheuri> Mark_: there might be...but bruning it slower very likely will solve the problem...as long as md5 of your iso you download is fine, it should be okay
[03:41] <Ocult> [theine] : but u know this problem i said ?
[03:41] <cef> leoncio: there's a lot of torrents there. which image?
[03:41] <scheuri> javiolo...sorry then
[03:41] <thoreauputic> michaels: oops
[03:41] <mauti> Celestar: how about yours?
[03:41] <grimboy> rixxon, hey, you were on last night.
[03:41] <rixxon> i can't apt-get or install automatic updates
[03:41] <theine> Ocult: no, but i have a feeling
[03:41] <Madeye> MacSlow, ah I don't have the live
[03:41] <Celestar> mauti: ok I've started seeding i386 as well.
[03:41] <Mark_> scheuri, ah okay thx, so did this problem already occur before?
[03:41] <rixxon> grimboy: probably? im always here. i have no life. :(
[03:41] <Celestar> :)
[03:41] <Madeye> MacSlow, if you got the live can you send em to me ?
[03:41] <leoncio> cef, i386, ubuntu desktop
[03:41] <grimboy> heh
[03:41] <[HUN] Big_T> can anyone help me with my ubuntu install? i get an error message when the system root is mounting: cdrom_pc_intr: the drive appears confused
[03:42] <thoreauputic> michaels: I fear you may have some corrupted file system problems therer
[03:42] <thoreauputic> *there
[03:42] <MacSlow> Madeye, take a look in some of the OpenOffice documents... there are several... somewhere there is a a non-bitmap-based ubuntu-logo with the typical catch-phrase afaik
[03:42] <Celestar> mauti: UltraSparc T1 here
[03:42] <SV> ????
[03:42] <scheuri> Mark_: yes...sort of...it is always an issue with CD-Rs and burning them with high speed (and then using them on different CD-devs)
[03:42] <MacSlow> Madeye, hm... got to mount it one sec
[03:42] <mauti> Celestar: thanks but i am downloading ISOs. Bittorrents are taking twice the time :(
[03:42] <cef> leoncio: what was wrong with it? refused connections or ?
[03:42] <Malith> FUCK UBUNTU IN THE ASS
[03:42] <michaels> thoreauputic: so what do I do?
[03:42] <grimboy> What do I do when I start up and there's no gnome
[03:42] <Frogzoo_away> !tell mauti about torrent
[03:42] <theine> Ocult: really, don't worry about, if it still doesn't work after you installed Ubuntu, and I'm sure there are many people who'll be able to help you resolving the problem
[03:42] <grimboy> Malin``,  I agree
[03:42] <lucasvo> !ops
[03:42] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:42] <leoncio> cef, yes
[03:42] <Celestar> mauti: they shouldn't
[03:43] <Hobbsee> lovely.
[03:43] <Krank> I am still can't boot from the desktop cd, getting that "hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[03:43] <Mark_> scheuri, ah great, i burned it with 48x so maybe that is it
[03:43] <Krank> Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 156349" MD5's match
[03:43] <Ocult> theine: thanks
[03:43] <scheuri> Malith: thanks for your input...now watch your language
[03:43] <Celestar> can't I tell the installer that do NOT want to create a user?
[03:43] <Frogzoo_away> mauti: 100kB/s here :D
[03:43] <thoreauputic> michaels: try  sudo shutdown -R -H now ( should fsck the disk on reboot)
[03:43] <Madeye> MacSlow, Thank you dude
[03:43] <scheuri> Mark_: I guess it was...quite likely...
[03:43] <leoncio> cef, ok sorry now is ok
[03:43] <cef> leoncio: just try again.. it's damn busy.. over 1500 downloaders
[03:43] <ompaul> scheuri, hes is gone - lonnnng gone
[03:43] <scheuri> ompaul....arrr...I am too slow....
[03:43] <Frogzoo_away> !tell leoncio about torrent
[03:43] <michaels> thoreauputic: what exactly does that do?
[03:43] <Frogzoo_away> !tell scheuri about torrent
[03:43] <thoreauputic> michaels: aargh - wrong sorry
[03:43] <charlotte> has anyone installed kubuntu successfully on 128mb ram and pentium 2?
[03:44] <Cass> talking about fsck, how do you stop ubuntu fscking the drive on boot every 30 reboots ..  that just annoys me
[03:44] <ompaul> thoreauputic, -F
[03:44] <tuxtheslacker> how cna I go back on my repo listings?
[03:44] <jdmpike> charlotte, it will run great!
[03:44] <CrippsFX> how do I change the login screen?
[03:44] <krazykit> charlotte: it'd work, but it would be kinda slow.  you'd really want 256 for a happy time, at least
[03:44] <thoreauputic> michaels:  shutdown -r -F now
[03:44] <tuxtheslacker> I need to go back to breezy....
[03:44] <Corey_> hey guys
[03:44] <cef> leoncio: no probs.. it happens.. quite a load on the torrent tracker
[03:44] <ompaul> Cass, you don't want to do that
[03:44] <Corey_> some of my games arent working when i try to load them
[03:44] <charlotte> its for an old machine
[03:44] <grimboy> charlotte, try #kbuntu
[03:44] <Cass> ompaul, yes i do
[03:44] <thoreauputic> ompaul: thanks - just checked it in the man :)
[03:44] <rixth> How can I recover rm'd stuff from ext3?
[03:44] <Intangir> omg, its dapper day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:44] <charlotte> im running ubuntu on this one but it's a powerful pc
[03:44] <jdmpike> charlotte, turn off the flashy stuff
[03:44] <ak7> charlotte, xubuntu might work better...
[03:44] <Corey_> like.. tuxracer normally worked but now its not..
[03:44] <michaels> thoreauputic: is "now" part of that command?
[03:44] <grimboy> charlotte, you'll need the traditional install cd
[03:44] <PreZWork> dapper day? heh
[03:44] <krazykit> rixth: you don't, really.
[03:44] <rixxon> would a dist-upgrade take down if on RC?
[03:44] <Celestar> *slowly* I do not want to create a user account :S
[03:44] <Trae> heh
[03:44] <Intangir> #ubuntu+1 is gone ;)
[03:44] <erez> hi, if i were using dapper beta, all i need to do now in order to upgrade is update && upgrade && dist-upgrade , right?
[03:44] <thoreauputic> michaels: yes
[03:45] <scheuri> Cass: I secnd that...you DONT want to avoid that
[03:45] <michaels> thoreauputic: and what does it do?
[03:45] <charlotte> im downloading the kubuntu for 192mb ram or lower
[03:45] <Intangir> does anyone know of a good CVS integration for nautilus?
[03:45] <Trae> Intangir, yeah, I was wondering the same thing, I was like, where is my #ubuntu+1 tab... heh.
[03:45] <Frogzoo_away> !tell erez about torrent
[03:45] <ompaul> Intangir, that is because dapper is release
[03:45] <grimboy> charlotte, You'd be better off with icewm or xfce
[03:45] <thoreauputic> michaels: it tells the system to do it right now, and reboot (r ) and fsck ( F)
[03:45] <Frogzoo_away> !tell charlotte about torrent
[03:45] <Cass> scheuri, and again, yes i do ..  is there someting i am missing apart from the fsck just annoying me
[03:45] <charlotte> right...
[03:45] <kork> rix/wc
[03:45] <rixth> krazykit, they were not overwritten. I heard somone earlier ask the same question and they were told about a program.
[03:45] <Intangir> Trae: ya i was like.. i dont remember leaving the channel ;)
[03:45] <kork> lol
[03:45] <thoreauputic> michaels: checks your filesystem
[03:45] <Trae> heh
[03:45] <harobed_> where is "mc" in dapper ?
[03:45] <claes> erez, Yes
[03:45] <ubuntu> hello?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> !mc
[03:45] <gumpish> Is there any sort of big picture emerging from this chaos? Are clean installs good but upgrades broken? Vice versa?
[03:45] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[03:45] <Intangir> does #ubuntu forward to #ubuntu-1 ;)
[03:45] <scheuri> Cass: for clarification...are you aware what fsck is doing?
[03:45] <wheelswitch> why is Frogzoo_away telling everyone about torrent?
[03:45] <ubuntu> any body?
[03:45] <kspath> harobed_: apt-cache search mc
[03:45] <michaels> thoreauputic: cool. will do. thanks.
[03:45] <grimboy> ubuntu,  hey
[03:46] <erez> claes: thanks
[03:46] <gnomefreak> Intangir: other way around
[03:46] <ubuntu> ubuntu is perfect!
[03:46] <Celestar> bah
[03:46] <Intangir> no i say minus 1 hehe
[03:46] <matti> ;p
[03:46] <Frogzoo_away> wheelswitch: cos the repos are gonna die, that's why
[03:46] <Celestar> ktorrent is acting up with seeding :S
[03:46] <Cass> scheuri, yes i know exccatly wehat fsck is doing .. i just dont need it every 30 boots
[03:46] <charlotte> im loving the new ubuntu
[03:46] <harobed_> kspath, no found
[03:46] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: modest too, evidently ;)
[03:46] <grimboy> ubuntu, a bit full of yourself today.
[03:46] <Intangir> ubuntu rules ;)
[03:46] <ubuntu> -h
[03:46] <ubuntu> help
[03:46] <rixxon> hokey i fixed my broken ubuntu... by reading the error description! :D - coming from windows used to ignoring tose
[03:46] <Intangir> ive been waiting for this day for quite a while hehe
[03:46] <gnomefreak> Intangir: #ubuntu+1 is closed dapper support is in here now
[03:46] <Corey_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:46] <Corey_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[03:46] <charlotte> i just wanted to play about with kubuntu without using live cd haha
[03:46] <Intangir> its like a holiday
[03:46] <grimboy> ubuntu, /help
[03:46] <scheuri> Cass: okay...there is a way to manipulate that...but I must admit that I forgot...it is in the settings for your filesystem...
[03:46] <gnomefreak> Corey_: use sudo
[03:46] <krazykit> Corey_: sudo
[03:46] <Corey_> i did
[03:46] <thoreauputic> !tell Corey_ about root
[03:46] <Corey_>  sudo apt-get  update && apt-get  upgrade && apt-get  dist-upgrade
[03:47] <rixxon> Corey_: sudo apt-get ...
[03:47] <scheuri> Cass: I am sure that google will help you there...
[03:47] <squid> #ubuntu-mx
[03:47] <grimboy> ubuntu, or !topic
[03:47] <kspath> harobed_: mc - midnight commander - a powerful file manager
[03:47] <hypnox> Cass, if every 30 boots is a problem, you reboot too much. Edit your /etc/fstab to change the frequency
[03:47] <rixxon> Corey_: sudo before each command
[03:47] <thoreauputic> Corey_: you missed the second sudo
[03:47] <thoreauputic> :)
[03:47] <Corey_> ok
[03:47] <gnomefreak> Corey_: you have to use sudo in each command
[03:47] <scheuri> hypnox: is it in fstab? not really AFAIK
[03:47] <cef> getting quite sick of the few bugs I find in nautilus. hopefully they'll be gone from the version in dapper (upgrading on the weekend as I need this pc to work tomorrow)
[03:47] <rixxon> thoreauputic: and the third
[03:47] <rixth> It was just a few 200mb videos anyywa
[03:47] <thoreauputic> rixxon: indeed :)
[03:47] <grimboy> Corey_, or sudo -sH
[03:47] <gnomefreak> Corey_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is all you need
[03:47] <rixxon> :)
[03:47] <RandolphCarter> Corey_: sudo bash -c 'apt-get  update && apt-get  upgrade && apt-get  dist-upgrade', or put a sudo before each command
[03:47] <ompaul> Cass, you do, however I will tell you that I really resist your request, so all I am willing to show you is that the information you want is in "man fstab"
[03:47] <Some_Person> Hey, I'm still using Breezy, and I can't get usplash to display. Is there a script file on ubuntu that runs on startup that I can add "usplash" to/
[03:47] <Corey_> alright thanks
[03:47] <rixxon> grimboy: sudo -i
[03:47] <Cass> hypnox, its a laptop i use, it reboot at least twice a day
[03:47] <charlotte> my galeon browser kept crashing
[03:47] <Corey_> some of my games arent working now
[03:47] <Corey_> why is that
[03:47] <kspath> harobed_: mc is part of universe
[03:47] <grimboy> rixxon, oops.
[03:48] <charlotte> seems fine with this beta version of the new one
[03:48] <Corey_> they wont start up
[03:48] <charlotte> i dunno
[03:48] <charlotte> maybe its my pc
[03:48] <Celestar> ktorrent seems kinda crappy
[03:48] <Some_Person> By the way, I use LILO (and don't try to make me switch)
[03:48] <sladen> Some_Person: sudo apt-get update -u $(uname -r)
[03:48] <cef> Corey_: which games? can you give examples?
[03:48] <Corey_> tuxracer
[03:48] <Corey_> scorched 3D
[03:48] <Corey_> torcs
[03:48] <Corey_> trigga
[03:48] <Corey_> blender 3D
[03:48] <grimboy> Some_Person, but lilo doesn't begin with a g.
[03:49] <thoreauputic> !enter
[03:49] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[03:49] <ompaul> !enter
[03:49] <Some_Person> samuel@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update -u $(uname -r)
[03:49] <Cass> ompaul, dont worry about me .. i will find the answer, i am a experianced solaris Sysadmin and i know whats what, i dont need a fsck on boot when i quickly want to get on line .. thanks for the clue about fstab, i just dodnt see the setting for this inside
[03:49] <sladen> RandolphCarter: the correct way is to put sudo before each.  Please use that method if you're showing other peple
[03:49] <tuxtheslacker> can someone PLEASE tell me how exactly I would go about setting my repos back to breezy repos?
[03:49] <thoreauputic> Corey_: stop it with the enter key, please
[03:49] <Some_Person> E: The update command takes no arguments
[03:49] <cef> Corey_: all use OpenGL. Most likely you haven't got OpenGL working or your video card doesn't support it. what video card do you have?
[03:49] <jbroome> tuxtheslacker: replace the word dapper with breezy
[03:49] <kspath>  /ignore Corey_
[03:49] <RandolphCarter> sladen: I think your definition of 'correct' is a bit absolute, but okay
[03:49] <hypnox> Cass my bad, have a look at man tune2fs
[03:49] <sladen> tuxtheslacker: edit /etc/apt/sources.list   change all the 'dapper' into 'breezy'
[03:49] <Celestar> lol
[03:49] <ompaul> Cass, its in the man page about "column 6 afik"
[03:49] <jbroome> tuxtheslacker: in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:49] <sladen> RandolphCarter: thanks
[03:49] <Celestar> 25 leechers on i386-desktop :P
[03:49] <AJ004> i just installed easyubuntu
[03:49] <samu> What's the difference between sudo and gksudo?
[03:49] <AJ004> now which features should i enable?
[03:49] <Some_Person> so?
[03:49] <jbroome> i just took a shower
[03:49] <hypnox> tuxtheslacker where it says dapper, replace with breezy
[03:50] <WAHa_06x36> all right, what's the deal with upgrading to Dapper through the Update Manager?
[03:50] <kspath> samu: two letters?
[03:50] <sladen> samu: one puts up a graphical password box
[03:50] <gnomefreak> samu: gksudo is used for running gui apps
[03:50] <mauti> Celestar: I am not one of them. ;)
[03:50] <grimboy> samu: gksudo is pretty
[03:50] <WAHa_06x36> I can't get this to work at all.
[03:50] <Cass> hypnox, ompaul .. thanks
[03:50] <AJ004> what is PLF repository?
[03:50] <sladen> WAHa_06x36: what can't you get to work?
[03:50] <Corey_> some of my applications arent working why is that ?
[03:50] <samu> Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
[03:50] <kspath> samu: man sudo;man gksudo
[03:50] <sladen> Corey_: what applications?
[03:50] <Cass> AJ004, penguin liberation front file stores
[03:50] <Some_Person> samuel@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update -u $(uname -r)
[03:50] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: I click "Check", it says my system is up to date.
[03:50] <Corey_> mostly 3D games
[03:50] <Corey_> and blender 3D
[03:50] <thoreauputic> !plf
[03:50] <ubotu> well, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[03:50] <AJ004> cass should i enable all repositories?
[03:50] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: and I do have the newest Update Manager.
[03:50] <Some_Person> E: The update command takes no arguments
[03:50] <grimboy> Corey_, Drivers?
[03:50] <Cass> AJ004, i do
[03:50] <Corey_> im not sure possibly
[03:50] <sladen> WAHa_06x36: where do you click check?  what applications aren't working?
[03:50] <czambran81f> Does anybody know how come there are no updatesm and the final version already came out?
[03:50] <Cass> AJ004,  well for what i need
[03:51] <Corey_> I need one for an ati card where do i get ?
[03:51] <Corey_> its an old ati card
[03:51] <bliss_>  after apt-get update whats the next line to upgrade to 6.06?
[03:51] <krazykit> Corey_: what model?
[03:51] <grimboy> !tell Corey_ about ati
[03:51] <Some_Person> is there a script file in Breezy that runs on startup that I can add "usplash" to?
[03:51] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: in the Update Manager, as explained on the wiki.
[03:51] <charlotte> oooh i need one for my ati too
[03:51] <hypnox> bliss_ apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:51] <Celestar> mauti: you should be :P
[03:51] <sladen> Some_Person: it's run from initramfs.  add 'usplash' to the kernel command line
[03:51] <grimboy> !tell charlotte about ati
[03:51] <sladen> Some_Person: or just  sudo apt-get install usplash
[03:51] <bliss_> hypnox: thanks
[03:51] <AJ004> ok downloading em now :)
[03:51] <tuxtheslacker> thanks all!
[03:52] <viS_> hi,  i just installed ubuntu 6.06 and i'm getting these weird notification sounds sometimes.
[03:52] <krazykit> Corey_ and charlotte, in general, you use the open source "ati" driver for a 9200 and below, and the fglrx driver for the cards newer than that
[03:52] <claes> Cass, Is it the 30 reboot fsck you want to change? Then look at: man tune2fs
[03:52] <Some_Person> what is initramfs?
[03:52] <viS_> anyone know why?
[03:52] <sladen> WAHa_06x36: I'm still missing the big picture.  what is happening that shouldn't happen?
[03:52] <Corey_> ok well its a 320M
[03:52] <Some_Person> usplash is installed
[03:52] <charlotte> nice one!
[03:52] <krazykit> !tell krazykit about ati
[03:52] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: that should upgrade my system, or so the wiki claims.
[03:52] <Cass> claes, cheers, im reading that just now
[03:52] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: in reality, nothing happens.
[03:52] <Some_Person> samuel@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install usplash
[03:52] <kspath> viS_: It wants more attention.
[03:52] <SV> why i don't see dapper drake in the update manager ?
[03:52] <grimboy> What do I do when ubuntu is broken and I'm stuck in the shell?
[03:52] <Some_Person> Password:
[03:52] <Some_Person> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:52] <Some_Person> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:52] <Some_Person> 
[03:52] <melodie> hello, do someone know if jigdo for alternate i386 is ok to upgrade an iso of desktop i386 ?
[03:52] <viS_> kspath: what wants attention?
[03:52] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades <-- "Upgrading with the Update Manager"
[03:53] <grimboy> !paste
[03:53] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[03:53] <spafbnerf> i'm having trouble getting my wireless working via networking scripts
[03:53] <claes> SV, run sudo update-manager -d
[03:53] <MacSlow> Madeye, ok think I found it
[03:53] <AJ004> ubuntu still has some bugs from before
[03:53] <thoreauputic> Some_Person: no pasting , please
[03:53] <AJ004> which havent been fixed
[03:53] <Celestar> share ratio exceeds 1.00 :P
[03:53] <SV> thanks
[03:53] <tuxtheslacker> thanks all!?
[03:53] <spafbnerf> i can iwconfig key restricted mykey + ifconfig essid myap and get an ip via dhcp fine
[03:53] <tuxtheslacker> AJ004, such as?*
[03:53] <sladen> WAHa_06x36:   gksudo update-manager -d
[03:53] <spafbnerf> however, doens't work w init scripts
[03:53] <grimboy> thoreauputic, that was a bit strong.
[03:53] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: what's that do?
[03:53] <spafbnerf> i hav specified:
[03:53] <Cass> wow there is some amount of traffic on this chan ..  busy busy busy !!
[03:53] <spafbnerf> wireless-essid myap
[03:53] <Some_Person> sorry, but its only 6 lines
[03:53] <thoreauputic> grimboy: I removed it
[03:53] <AJ004> tuxtheslacker:  When you click on next or finish in a dialog box sometimes you have to click it twice
[03:53] <grimboy> oh
[03:53] <nekromaan> hello, is there a kernel-headers for 2.6.15-23-386, cause i cant find it with apt-get?
[03:53] <hypnox> hmm, update-manager should be updated so it offers dapper
[03:54] <spafbnerf> and wireless-key restricted s:mykey
[03:54] <thoreauputic> grimboy: the chan is very busy atm too
[03:54] <spafbnerf> ??? wtf ? :(
[03:54] <viS_> kspath: it doesn't show anything graphical
[03:54] <AJ004> tuxtheslacker:  And www.blogger.com crashes the system
[03:54] <Reinhart> is it just me or is ubuntuforums.org very flaky today?
[03:54] <claes> Running update-manager -d remote over an ssh tunnel. Hope this will work. :-)
[03:54] <tuxtheslacker> AJ004, it does?
[03:54] <tuxtheslacker> ahahahhaha! I have to check that out!
[03:54] <Some_Person> now, what file do i add "usplash" to?
[03:54] <Celestar> hm
[03:54] <krazykit> thoreauputic: as an op, do you have some control over ubotu?  because there should really be a note that the 9200 cards and below can use the open source driver
[03:54] <AJ004> tuxtheslacker yep
[03:54] <sladen> Some_Person: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:54] <AJ004> tuxtheslacker ill try it after easyubuntu, could be the fonts
[03:54] <sladen> Some_Person: really, it should be installed by default
[03:54] <Corey_> guys I have an old ati card that is shared memory
[03:54] <thoreauputic> krazykit: you cn change ubotu factoids
[03:54] <Corey_> I need a driver for it..
[03:55] <nclife> woot, ubuntu dapper drake is already out?
[03:55] <nclife> o.o
[03:55] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: "Your system is up-to-date"
[03:55] <h3sp4wn> krazykit: upto 9600 can be used with the experimental support in xorg 7
[03:55] <sladen> Corey_: driver "ati"
[03:55] <thoreauputic> krazykit: e.g. " no, blah is ..... corected version
[03:55] <kspath> krazykit: /msg ubotu help
[03:55] <grimboy> nclife, you don't say
[03:55] <ak7> nclife: snuck up on me too :)
[03:55] <thoreauputic> krazykit: do it in /msg though
[03:55] <sladen> WAHa_06x36: grep dapper /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:55] <Corey_> where do i put that thoe ?
[03:55] <nclife> heh
[03:55] <krazykit> right, thoreauputic kspath and h3sp4wn, i'll put that in the notes :-)
[03:55] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: nothing.
[03:55] <Some_Person> But I use LILO
[03:55] <Madeye> MacSlow, jad@syntux.net please :D
[03:56] <czambran81f> With the finally release did any additional updated came out???
[03:56] <Lyst9> ...
[03:56] <sladen> WAHa_06x36: edit that file.  change all the  'breezy'  into  'dapper'    then  sudo apt-get update
[03:56] <Celestar> installation is SLOW :(
[03:56] <Some_Person> How do you add usplash to LILO?
[03:56] <highvoltage> isn't there a better way to do it these days?
[03:56] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: great, I installed Ubuntu so I wouldn't have to edit files in /etc/.
[03:57] <SeMBoY> why cant i join ubuntu+1 ?
[03:57] <Some_Person> Hello?
[03:57] <SeMBoY> ;(
[03:57] <Lynoure> WAHa_06x36: It's not that scary or dangerous.
[03:57] <Lynoure> SeMBoY: it no longer exists, new one will be at some point
[03:57] <runes> is there a way to modify the adduser so that it creates subfolders under the user folder?
[03:57] <void^> gah. each and every time i use gnome i find myself disabling the gnome-terminal keybindings that collide with irssi.
[03:57] <Hobbsee> SeMBoY: because it doesnt exit yet.
[03:57] <Celestar> how would the world work without torrents?
[03:57] <WAHa_06x36> Lynoure: it's annoying. I'm a programmer, I can do this shit, I just don't WANT to.
[03:57] <Some_Person> It redirects here
[03:57] <rixxon> SeMBoY: because dapper is now officially released
[03:57] <kspath> runes: write a script that uses adduser?
[03:58] <SeMBoY> okei
[03:58] <SeMBoY> ?
[03:58] <hypnox> runes yes, see /etc/adduser.conf
[03:58] <ompaul> !language
[03:58] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[03:58] <Some_Person> HOW DO I ADD USPLASH TO lilo?
[03:58] <sladen> WAHa_06x36: the instructions in that document, *should* install a new breezy version of update-manager;  which then should allow you to upgrade the distribution to dapper.  did you restart the application after install the new version of update-manager?
[03:58] <thoreauputic> void^: yeah, it's annoying
[03:58] <kspath> runes: write your own version of adduser?
[03:58] <SeMBoY> but i have ubuntu dapper ;( so no one will help here?
[03:58] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: several times.
[03:58] <sladen> Some_Person: put  'usplash'  on the end of the arguments
[03:58] <chapium> X is showing a wave pattern on my screen, causing sections every other inch to appear slightly blurred.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[03:58] <tuxtheslacker> can someone please tell me if unhandled page fault is a bad ram error? or what it is?
[03:58] <MacSlow> Madeye, do you want the whole "Example"-directory? About 19 MBytes uncompressed.
[03:58] <Cass> SeMBoY, dapper is in final now, this is the chan for hep
[03:58] <sladen> WAHa_06x36: what version of update-manager do you have installed?   Can you find out the version?
[03:58] <thoreauputic> void^: I use rxvt or urxvt with irssi
[03:58] <ompaul> SeMBoY, dapper is now released, therefore this channel is now for dapper
[03:58] <Lynoure> WAHa_06x36: :) I guess it's a matter of opinion. One thing I loved aout debian was that I could edit all the configuration files
[03:58] <Some_Person> sladen: where?
[03:58] <runes> hypnox and kspath I don't know what to put in the adduser.conf so that it grabs the user $ and creates the folder
[03:58] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: I also checked with synaptic that I've got the newest version.
[03:59] <Some_Person> sladen: what file?
[03:59] <SeMBoY> Nice
[03:59] <Madeye> MacSlow,  if you can upload it somewhere it would be cool dude
[03:59] <hypnox> runes then you'll have to read the documentation, wotn you
[03:59] <WAHa_06x36> Lynoure: isn't the point of Ubuntu that you don't need to do that?
[03:59] <Madeye> MacSlow,  but my email wont handle such big attachment
[03:59] <void^> thoreauputic: yes, i use urxvt usually :)
[03:59] <Yorgos> hi
[03:59] <chapium> yo
[03:59] <thoreauputic> void^: great minds ;-)
[03:59] <Yorgos> how can i use my logitech quickcam camera with my ubuntu?
[03:59] <SeMBoY> hello i have tvout problem -i have setup in xorg.conf -but does not show on tv
[03:59] <runes> hypnox I did it only shows the default names it creates based on what adduser looks for
[03:59] <Doso> http://krunch.servebeer.com/~krunch/vrac/pics/ubuntu-logo.jpg (:
[03:59] <kspath> people do not seem to want to read manual pages, it is so hard...
[03:59] <Lynoure> WAHa_06x36: I'm newish to ubuntu (less than 3 months), so I'm not sure what the point is, yet.
[03:59] <Some_Person> sladen: what file do I add "usplash" to?
[04:00] <Corey_> how do i configure what driver i have for my video card ?
[04:00] <sudomania4> in firestarter, what is the difference between allowing connections and allowing services?
[04:00] <Yorgos> anyone knows?
[04:00] <Lynoure> WAHa_06x36: I think e.g. Suse is was more gui happy than Ubuntu but that is based on the situation with Suse years ago
[04:00] <hypnox> WAHa_06x36 try later, update-manager may work by then.
[04:00] <ompaul> !webcam
[04:00] <ubotu> webcam is probably now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:00] <Some_Person> What is xubuntu?
[04:01] <Most_Wanted> !xubuntu
[04:01] <ubotu> I heard xubuntu is Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[04:01] <bruce89> ubuntu + xfce
[04:01] <sudomania4> in firestarter, what is the difference between allowing connections and allowing services?
[04:01] <Some_Person> oh
[04:01] <bruce89> - gnome!
[04:01] <sladen> Some_Person: /etc/lilo/lilo.conf   or something?
[04:01] <gil> how do i set up ubunto to use my built in 6-in-1 card reader
[04:01] <kspath> sudomania4: research firestarter and basic networking.
[04:01] <bruce89> which version?
[04:01] <fatalblu> sacrifice your ssh keys to the Linux gods!
[04:01] <SeMBoY> i was setting up tvout from ubuntu wiki website -and all worked well - and i did not see any error in x server -and i can see on tv -and than the stuff happins when i login to my user oi can see on tv its like black screen what is the problem someone so kind help me out
[04:01] <Lynoure> gil: in my case it was as simple as sticking a card in...
[04:01] <snoops> heanol
[04:02] <snoops> hey I tried again
[04:02] <ompaul> gil, pop a card in it and type >sudo fdisk -l<< and see if it reads it
[04:02] <snoops> still absolutely no go
[04:02] <MacSlow> Madeye, takes a few moments to upload... stand-by.
[04:02] <Lynoure> gil: then the card got mounted automatically.
[04:02] <bruce89> gil : in Dapper anyway
[04:02] <Some_Person> !paste
[04:02] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[04:02] <snoops> I mean it feels like an absolute major problem to me
[04:02] <mauti> !paste
[04:02] <gil> yes...i want it to mount authomatically
[04:02] <jlmr> hi
[04:02] <snoops> which is so surprising that it wasn't found out before the cds
[04:02] <Madeye> MacSlow, few moment for 19mb ? you must be lucky dude, I live with 512 only :(
[04:03] <jlmr> i have a simple question
[04:03] <runes> hypnox all the documents refer to are DHOME Grouphomes
[04:03] <spafbnerf> ok, fuckit, i make my own script for wireless cz i don't understand wots rong w the standard one.... ;)
[04:03] <eXistenZ> hello, what's the difference between text and OEM mode
[04:03] <jlmr> i would like to install dapper, but first i want to know how to make the installer leave my MBR alone..
[04:03] <kspath> sudomania4: hint: most services have specific port numbers and some people run "servers"/"daemons"
[04:03] <jlmr> ?
[04:03] <ompaul> mauti, so it was said a couple of seconds ago in the channel please msg the bot /msg ubotu paste << that will help a lot
[04:03] <hypnox> runes if you want to do sometihng that isnt supported in adduser then you will have to figure it out some other way i guess
[04:03] <mauti> jlmr: what do you mean, it overwrites the MBR?
[04:04] <snoops> jlmr, it doesn't even seem to touch my MBR.
[04:04] <snoops> which is the problem.
[04:04] <jlmr> im not sure it does, but i dont want it too
[04:04] <jlmr> to*
[04:04] <jlmr> good
[04:04] <michaels> thoreauputic: well, I did that restart and then I could do the reconfigure thingy for x. but I still can't use the scroller to scroll. it works, it can set zoom together with control and all the nice stuff it's supposed to do, except it can't scroll up and down.
[04:04] <aperez> jose
[04:04] <jlmr> so if i install, i can use ntldr to load ubuntu?
[04:04] <runes> hypnox can you suggest a good link to documentation on this aside from the man pages? I tried google but all the links refer to are default config.
[04:04] <jlmr> instead of using GRUB to load windows
[04:04] <hypnox> jlmr if you do not have a boot manager installed then it shouldnt touch your mbr
[04:04] <kspath> runes: write a script that uses adduser and mkdir and chown and chmod and anything else you want
[04:04] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14955 - My lilo.conf - where do i add usplash?
[04:04] <speedie> any recommended utilities for converting flash .swf files into avi files (pref. DivX)
[04:04] <chapium> jlmr: it is possibl
[04:05] <eXistenZ> thoreauputic, what's the difference between text-mode and OEM mode?
[04:05] <hypnox> runes not sure what you're trying to achieve really, so nope
[04:05] <snoops> I didn't think you could use the windows boot manager to boot linux?
[04:05] <thoreauputic> michaels: the option is something like zaxis mapping 4 5 in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:05] <bruce89> oem asks for the users details after install
[04:05] <jlmr> i know, i just wasnt sure what ubunut installer was going to do to MBR
[04:05] <jlmr> snoops, yes you can
[04:05] <runes> hypnox I am trying to get adduser to create a folder /public_html and /graphics for each user created
[04:05] <thoreauputic> eXistenZ: OEM= Original Equipment MAnufacturer ( custom settings etc)
[04:05] <michaels> thoreauputic: I know, I had to mess around with these options a ton when I first started using ubuntu cause I was used to the way I used to use the mouse's side-buttons
[04:05] <gnomefreak> jlmr: it will just install itslef to the mbr
[04:05] <hypnox> runes, ah, put the folders you want created in /etc/skel/
[04:06] <Cass> snoops, yeah you need to dd the first 512bytes of the /boot disk and dump to a file, copy that to windows fs then update boot.ini
[04:06] <tolle> snoops, I've never heard of it. you can point it to a grub loader i guess, but ntldr cant even read most filesystems
[04:06] <michaels> thoreauputic: I have it configured now like I used to
[04:06] <jlmr> gnomefreak, thats not what in want, how do i prevent it :P
[04:06] <thoreauputic> michaels: it's working then?
[04:06] <runes> hypnox that easy???
[04:06] <jlmr> in = i
[04:06] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14955 - my lilo.conf - where do i add usplash?
[04:06] <claes> runes, Do you want thoose directories in the users home directories?
[04:06] <hypnox> runes yep
[04:06] <spikeb> !patience
[04:06] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[04:06] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: getting any messages back yet?
[04:06] <gil> lynoure: i cant get it to pick it up at all////
[04:06] <michaels> thoreauputic: it won't scroll up and down. everything else works.
[04:06] <gil> any ideas?
[04:06] <runes> hypnox exactly!!!
[04:06] <Some_Person> sladen: u here?
[04:06] <claes> runes, Sorry hypnox allready answered.
[04:06] <gnomefreak> jlmr: you can install grub on the ubuntu partition (the very beginning of it) iirc
[04:06] <steko> old question: anyone has problems with openoffice? I can't go past splash screen
[04:07] <dfgas> why doesn't my update show final is out yet?
[04:07] <runes> hypnox Thank you it's been two days trying to figure that out..I thought skel was for simple configuration files for the desktop not for folders
[04:07] <michaels> thoreauputic: oh, the side buttons don't work any more but I don't use them anymore really so it doesn't matter
[04:07] <jlmr> gnomefreak: how?
[04:07] <thoreauputic> michaels: as far as I know the scrolling is the zaxis mappingthing - but someone else might help you
[04:07] <spikeb> dfgas, probably because the servers are overloaded
[04:07] <chapium> steko, loads fine for me
[04:07] <hypnox> runes it's not smart, it just dumps everything in there into the homedir :)
[04:07] <claes> dfgas, Use update-manager -d
[04:07] <thoreauputic> michaels: I 've never needed to use that
[04:07] <RandolphCarter> michaels: do you have 'Option "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"' in the mouse section in xorg.conf? (add 'Option "Buttons" "7" too)
[04:07] <gnomefreak> jlmr: whne the choice of where would you like to put grub choose no to the mbr
[04:07] <buzzed> so would the easiest way to update from Breezy, be burning to a CD and then install?
[04:07] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14955 - my lilo.conf - where do i add usplash?
[04:07] <thoreauputic> michaels: I have a ps2 scroll mouse that Just Works (tm)
[04:07] <steko> chapium, glad to hear that, it worked for me too previously
[04:07] <runes> hypnox Thank you that's exactly what I needed!  Have a great day!
[04:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell buzzed about upgrade
[04:08] <buzzed> or is the a net install
[04:08] <hypnox> runes no problem
[04:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there! somebody here uses IRC to download divx movies?
[04:08] <claes> buzzed, sudo update-manager -d
[04:08] <RandolphCarter> michaels: depending on your mouse, you may need ZAxisMapping "6 7" etc.
[04:08] <gil> i cant get it to pick up the card reader at all
[04:08] <spikeb> -d is for bleeding edge
[04:08] <gil> anyone have any ideas...
[04:08] <gil> ?
[04:08] <RandolphCarter> michaels: you can run 'xev' from a terminal and use the mouse-wheel over the window to see which buttons you need to map
[04:08] <jazzido> hi everyone i'm getting this "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz MD5Sum mismatch" in update-manager -d when trying to upgrade to dapper
[04:08] <jazzido> any clues?
[04:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there! somebody here uses IRC to download divx movies?
[04:08] <jlmr> gnomefreak: thnx, i will install it now :D
[04:08] <thoreauputic> Tallia1Kubuntu: I think you are in the wrong channel
[04:08] <snoops> Okay..I grabbed the 6.06 amd64 desktop iso..booted in it..went through the install..chose the partitions to install to..with xp in the primary master boot partition(the gui installer didn't give me the option to change it). It installed.. never asked for what boot loader I wanted - but it said it installed grub and then said grub was scanning hdd's. Then it asked me to reboot..
[04:09] <michaels> thoreauputic and RandolphCarter, look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132384&page=2
[04:09] <Cass> Tallia1Kubuntu, yeah we heard the first time
[04:09] <snoops> I rebooted, and bam..no boot loader
[04:09] <melodie> bye bye
[04:09] <dfgas> claes, alls i had an update for was for pcmcia-cs and that it
[04:09] <brainlessbob> Finally! Dapper Drake :D
[04:09] <thoreauputic> Tallia1Kubuntu: if you persist you will be out of here
[04:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> okok
[04:09] <dfgas> claes, i am running rc
[04:09] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14955 - my lilo.conf - where do i add usplash?
[04:09] <tubbie> omg. 9 min to finish installing xp in qemu
[04:09] <claes> dfgas, Then you now have released dapper. Have fun!
[04:10] <MacSlow> Madeye, hm... may take a bit longer... currently the upload-speed fluctuates like wild :/
[04:10] <Celestar> STILL installating :S
[04:10] <gnomefreak> dfgas: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:10] <michaels> thoreauputic RandolphCarter: funny, it treats the side buttons as 8 and 9 now.
[04:10] <buzzed> update-manager says i'm upto date
[04:10] <snoops> I'm not that clued up on how the grub boot loader works
[04:10] <kspath> Celestar: You forgot to pay for premium service ?
[04:10] <thoreauputic> Some_Person: presumably on the kernel line ( don't use lilo any more here)
[04:10] <snoops> does it install itself to the /boot partition?
[04:10] <LinuxJones> MacSlow, LowFat is awesome :)
[04:10] <thoreauputic> michaels: your mouse has a mind of its own ;)
[04:10] <claes> buzzed, update-manager -d also says you are up to date?
[04:11] <snoops> and then change the mbr to boot from that first?
[04:11] <Madeye> MacSlow, ah I can understand, maybe I should stop nagging so it gets better lol
[04:11] <[HUN] Big_T> can anyone help me with my ubuntu install? i get an error message when the system root is mounting: cdrom_pc_intr: the drive appears confused
[04:11] <Lynoure> gil: no ideas today, there are some outomount instructions but those are for debian and things should be easier in ubuntu, I assume
[04:11] <dfgas> gnomefreak, heh, intresting shows no updates  :D
[04:11] <Celestar> kspath: lol :P
[04:11] <Some_Person> thoreauputic:where is that?
[04:11] <michaels> thoreauputic: I guess it really is just time to, sniff sniff, get a new mouse.
[04:11] <gnomefreak> dfgas: it shouldnt
[04:11] <dfgas> hmmmm
[04:11] <Frog_Racer> am i able to upgrade 5.10 > 6.06 with out downloading/burmimg the iso
[04:11] <Medisol> hloo
[04:11] <buzzed> claes: oh i see... upgrade button
[04:11] <MacSlow> LinuxJones, thx
[04:11] <gnomefreak> dfgas: there hasnt been updates for a few days
[04:12] <claes> buzzed, Cool, right?
[04:12] <gnomefreak> 1 yesterday
[04:12] <hypnox> Frog_Racer yes, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[04:12] <thoreauputic> Some_Person: *cough* in lilo.conf look for the line that identifies the kernel you want to boot
[04:12] <Medisol> hola
[04:12] <Medisol> hay alguien q habla en espaol
[04:12] <[zero] > Hey anyone know any good websites which like tell you how to customise ubunut?
[04:12] <rackerz> !easyubuntu
[04:12] <MacSlow> Madeye, at 43% atm
[04:12] <ubotu> I guess easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[04:12] <snowblink> running on Dapper, but not having much luck with the xgl stuff
[04:12] <gnomefreak> !es
[04:12] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:12] <Some_Person> thoreauputic: which line?
[04:12] <Celestar> kspath: installation complete
[04:12] <dfgas> gnomefreak, it didn't do a distro upgrade though, as i said i was running rc
[04:12] <buzzed> upgrading now
[04:12] <Cas> !xgl
[04:12] <ubotu> xgl is, like, "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[04:12] <gnomefreak> dfgas: you are running final release
[04:12] <dfgas> k
[04:12] <snowblink> thanks Cas
[04:13] <[HUN] Big_T> can anyone help me with my ubuntu install? i get an error message when the system root is mounting: cdrom_pc_intr: the drive appears confused
[04:13] <gnomefreak> dfgas: dist-upgrade doesnt upgrade you to newest release
[04:13] <dfgas> ahhh
[04:13] <jazzido> anyone else getting this? Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[04:13] <fabi> ola
[04:13] <gnomefreak> dist-upgrade (not changing sources.list) will get you newest kernel as where upgrade wont
[04:13] <fatalblu> jazzido debmirror?
[04:13] <fatalblu> erm
[04:13] <dfgas> ahh
[04:13] <fatalblu> nm
[04:13] <fatalblu> reading helps
[04:13] <fatalblu> heh
[04:13] <Egill> Can someone give me imba help how to install gcc?
[04:13] <jazzido> fatalblu: no
[04:14] <kspath> fatalblu: please do not hit enter so much
[04:14] <hypnox> Egill sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:14] <thoreauputic> Egill: install build-essential
[04:14] <gnomefreak> Egill: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:14] <thoreauputic> heh
[04:14] <rackerz> hey, can somebody confirm for me that it is better to use EasyUbuntu rather than automatix?
[04:14] <Egill> ok, thanks
[04:14] <tristanmike> !automatix
[04:14] <grimboy> !tell fatalblu about enter
[04:14] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[04:14] <javiolo> how do I know if my webserv accepts secure ftp ?
[04:14] <thoreauputic> rackerz: yes
[04:14] <gnomefreak> rackerz: yes its safer
[04:14] <SurfnKid> how do i get the installing sensor limits off the boot screen, do i uninstall lm-sensors?
[04:14] <rackerz> cheers guys :)
[04:14] <chapium> ubotu tell frog_racer about upgrade
[04:14] <tristanmike> if ubotu says it, it's the truth
[04:14] <Tenshi> has dapper been released officially now?
[04:14] <thoreauputic> Tenshi: yes
[04:14] <tristanmike> Tenshi, yes
[04:14] <sladen> Some_Person: add  append="usplash"
[04:15] <NthDegree> so the +1 is over i take it
[04:15] <firedrops> i have the rc1 installed...if i install all the upgrades my version will be just like the official release?
[04:15] <gnomefreak> NthDegree: yes
[04:15] <grimboy> yes
[04:15] <jazzido> any good, up to date mirrors?
[04:15] <tristanmike> NthDegree, for just a bit, till edgy is up and running
[04:15] <NthDegree> i guess i need to do a dist-upgrade then
[04:15] <claes> firedrops, Yes
[04:15] <firedrops> ty
[04:15] <dunnix> any one else having sound card issues after installing dapper?
[04:15] <Celestar> jazzido: torrent :)
[04:15] <Some_Person> Does shipit send dapper yet?
[04:15] <tristanmike> Some_Person, yes
[04:15] <jazzido> Celestar: i need packages
[04:15] <gnomefreak> Some_Person: they are taking orders
[04:15] <Celestar> oh :)
[04:15] <Celestar> sorry
[04:15] <jacquesmerde> DAPPER DAPPER DOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
[04:15] <gnomefreak> jacquesmerde: please lose the caps
[04:15] <cute_bettong> XD
[04:15] <Manifold> Hey, is there a way to copy the information from cat /proc/cpuinfo onto a floppy?
[04:15] <Afrodita> hola
[04:15] <grimboy> jacquesmerde, indeed
[04:15] <Frogzoo_away> !tell jazzido about torrent
[04:16] <jacquesmerde> gnomefreak: sorry, didnt mean to raise my case
[04:16] <cute_bettong> i cannot beleve there are so many people in here for the first time ever 1072 people in this room ^_^
[04:16] <claes> Manifold, cat /proc/cpuinfo >> /media/floppy/somefile
[04:16] <jazzido> Frogzoo_away: tnx
[04:16] <rackerz> i know crazy isn't it.
[04:16] <hypnox> Manifold /proc/cpuinfo can be treated as a normal file, copy it
[04:16] <rackerz> the forums are really unresponsive as well :S
[04:16] <cute_bettong> yes and wonderfull too
[04:16] <cute_bettong> ^_^
[04:16] <tubbie> wtf
[04:16] <Some_Person> What line do i add usplash to in lilo.conf?
[04:16] <sk4jvoker> hi
[04:16] <tubbie> what is going on?
[04:16] <voraistos> hello people! 1069 users... was dapper released? (i didnt even disconnect waiting for this moment... hope i am not too late for the champagne ;)
[04:16] <tristanmike> voraistos, yes
[04:16] <Afrodita> NO ENTIENDO NADADADADAD
[04:16] <tubbie> ops. wrong channel
[04:16] <sladen> Some_Person: add  append="usplash"
[04:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Some_Person about grub
[04:17] <sladen> Some_Person: add  append="usplash"
[04:17] <sladen> Some_Person: add  append="usplash"
[04:17] <cute_bettong> tubbie ubuntu dapper 6.04 has just been released
[04:17] <sk4jvoker> can linux run without swap
[04:17] <Some_Person> ok
[04:17] <fabi> de donde eres afrodita como te llamas
[04:17] <voraistos> !es
[04:17] <Some_Person> thanks
[04:17] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Some_Person about usplash
[04:17] <cute_bettong> join the chaos XD
[04:17] <kspath> sladen: please do not do that
[04:17] <thoreauputic> voraistos: yes, you are too late for the champagne ;)
[04:17] <snoops> voraistos I believe there is a dual booting issue with it :/
[04:17] <grimboy> slash topic
[04:17] <Celestar> sk4jvoker: I run linux without swap
[04:17] <jacquesmerde> can i do a sudo rm -rf /home/username && mkdir /home/username to reset my user settigns and files to ground zero? or does ubuntu put stuff there at user setup that it needs?
[04:17] <kspath> !tell fabi about es
[04:17] <rackerz> same. i've got enough RAM.
[04:17] <snoops> lot of ram Celestar?
[04:17] <Celestar> 2GB on lappie
[04:17] <grimboy> sk4jvoker, not very well
[04:17] <fabi> ooooooooolllllllllllllllllllaaaaa
[04:17] <sladen> Celestar: it's always worth having some spam
[04:17] <Celestar> 4-8GB on the workstations
[04:17] <sladen> Celestar: swap
[04:18] <thoreauputic> fabi: stop, please
[04:18] <Ng> Celestar: swap is still useful
[04:18] <Frogzoo> sk4jvoker: look under /proc for 'swappability' - set it to zero
[04:18] <Celestar> sladen: not on a laptop it just eats battery ...
[04:18] <chapium> jacquesmerde: that would be overkill probably
[04:18] <spikeb> swap does not eat battery
[04:18] <Celestar> damnit
[04:18] <claes> jacquesmerde, You also need to copy the files in /etc/skel to the new users homedir.
[04:18] <hypnox> jacquesmerde yes, but you may want to copy the files out of /etc/skel into your new empty homedir
[04:18] <snoops> voraistos time for a new girl friend!
[04:18] <Celestar> swap accesses the HDD which eats battery :)
[04:18] <SurfnKid> guys how can i disable the sensor limits on boot up?
[04:18] <Frogzoo> best soln for swap eating battery is to set swappability = 0
[04:18] <Celestar> gnah
[04:19] <rackerz> do i need to restart after using easyubuntu for my movie plugin to work in firefox?>
[04:19] <snoops> man the forums are so slow
[04:19] <snoops> gosh
[04:19] <Celestar> where did the installer install grub to?
[04:19] <jacquesmerde> claes: hypnox, thanks. i want a fresh 6.06, i've made too many stupid changes. is this the ubuntu(TM) way?
[04:19] <sk4jvoker>  i have a problem with my disk
[04:19] <fabi> ola esta conectaovoraistos de donde eres
[04:19] <sk4jvoker>  and i need to delete the swap partition
[04:19] <Frogzoo> Celestar: mbr is usually /dev/hda - 1st block
[04:19] <chapium> jacquesmerde: per-program settings are in .folders.  Deleting those would reset some settings on things
[04:19] <defunkt> en ingles por favor
[04:19] <thoreauputic> fabi: english here
[04:19] <kspath> !tell fabi about es
[04:19] <hypnox> jacquesmerde yeah if you want to start your user from a blank setup, sure (or create another user)
[04:19] <rackerz> do i need to restart after using easyubuntu for my movie plugin to work in firefox?>
[04:19] <crazy_penguin> a beatifull dapper day for everyone! :)
[04:19] <claes> jacquesmerde, It's the linux way. When you create a user all linux distros copy what's in /etc/skel to that users homedir.
[04:19] <hypnox> rackerz no, restart firefox though
[04:19] <fundacite> #ubutum-es
[04:19] <Celestar> Frogzoo: I'm talking Ultrasparc :)
[04:20] <kspath> fabi: solamente ingles #ubuntu
[04:20] <Celestar> Booting the kernel ... wheee
[04:20] <fabi> no me mandeis mensajes en inglesh
[04:20] <Frogzoo> Celestar: don't you boot using the prom anyhow?
[04:20] <kspath> fabi: /join #ubuntu-es
[04:20] <naibe> hola alguien que hable espaol?
[04:20] <Celestar> Frogzoo: yes I do
[04:20] <rackerz> The Totem Plugin Could Not Startup : Could not establish connection to sound server
[04:20] <kspath> !es
[04:20] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:20] <Frogzoo> Celestar: so no grub
[04:20] <fabi> kien es gil ablas espaol
[04:20] <voraistos> fabi: tienes que ir en la canal #ubuntu-es
[04:20] <tony_> hi i have installed and ran winesetup, but how can i start wine ?
[04:20] <Celestar> Frogzoo: hm .. it even seems to work :)
[04:20] <jacquesmerde> claes: all i need to copy are those three bash conf files? Why doesnt ubuntu just change the global bash settings?
[04:20] <kspath> fabi: adios
[04:21] <Frogzoo> Celestar: cool :)
[04:21] <rackerz> tony_ have you run 'winecfg' yet?
[04:21] <fundacite> #ubuntu-es
[04:21] <tony_> rackerz, i cant find that command. where is it located?
[04:21] <netgrabber> where is the jigdo file for the desktop version?
[04:21] <Frogzoo> Celestar: dapper will eventually support the T1000 & T2000 btw
[04:21] <Yenni> Hola a todos!
[04:21] <angel_against_re> hola yenny
[04:21] <iNiku> ugh, this is just too damned busy
[04:21] <rackerz> have you typed it in the terminal?
[04:21] <MacSlow> Madeye, at 83% atm
[04:21] <winmar> gghg
[04:21] <sk4jvoker> can i delete the swap partition
[04:21] <Celestar> Frogzoo: I'm having kind of a problem .. the installer didn't ask for a root pw?
[04:21] <kspath> !tell Yenni about es
[04:21] <angel_against_re> hola winmar
[04:21] <claes> jacquesmerde, Yes. They are for userspecific config so user can fiddle with there own settings.
[04:21] <Yo> hola como estas
[04:21] <Mary> hola
[04:21] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone
[04:21] <RDNIGAA> hello men
[04:21] <Frogzoo> Celestar: use sudo - the root a/c is disabled
[04:21] <winmar> hola comandante superior
[04:21] <Yo> soy anderson winmar y yenny son locas
[04:21] <gil> si hablo espanol, porque?
[04:21] <kspath> !tell Yo about es
[04:22] <fabi> kies yo ola
[04:22] <Yenni> Q ubo comandante superior de curso!
[04:22] <Celestar> Frogzoo: ah
[04:22] <rackerz> The Totem Plugin Could Not Startup : Could not establish connection to sound server - can someone help me here? :(
[04:22] <RDNIGAA> how you doing
[04:22] <Frogzoo> !es
[04:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:22] <kspath> !es
[04:22] <RDNIGAA> ok
[04:22] <tony_> rackerz, sorry wrong message. I cant get it started. its stuck with this message : starting debugger.
[04:22] <RDNIGAA> bro
[04:22] <Celestar> Frogzoo: the sshd seems to be disabled as well?
[04:22] <Zoohouse> Cool, I didn't know there was a spanish channel
[04:22] <angel_against_re> tankyou ubotu!
[04:22] <rackerz> hmmmm strange, how did you instal wine
[04:22] <Frogzoo> Celestar: might need to install sshd
[04:22] <RDNIGAA> i need help over
[04:22] <Yo> necesito conectar mi modem sm56 a ubuntu
[04:22] <kspath> !tell Yo about es
[04:22] <Celestar> Frogzoo: apt-get install sshd?
[04:23] <RDNIGAA> linux and vista
[04:23] <winmar> habla espaol si vos sois cabimero
[04:23] <FunnyLookinHat> Guys, please make sure you download via the torrent to ease server load.  And please keep it open for a while after to allow others to pull from you.
[04:23] <fabi> ami no me mandeis mensajes en inglesh
[04:23] <kspath> !tell winmar about es
[04:23] <Frogzoo> Celestar: well, 'sudo apt-get install sshd'
[04:23] <thoreauputic> !es
[04:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:23] <grimboy> sshd runs by default
[04:23] <rackerz> brb going to restart.
[04:23] <czambrano> !tell Yo about es
[04:23] <Frogzoo> grimboy: shows what I know
[04:23] <jacquesmerde> claes: what happens if i use nautilus to send my ~ to the "garbage bin", would my computer explode from self-reference?
[04:23] <czambrano> !tell fabi about es
[04:23] <grimboy> jacquesmerde, no, but don't do it anyway
[04:24] <sweetnjguy29> I am re-downloading the iso image now - burned it to CD, but it wouldn't boot for some reason - the cursor bounced all over the screen - figured it was a bad burn or a bad CD -- anyone have similar problems?
[04:24] <voraistos> wow i gat sme strange lag here
[04:24] <thoreauputic> czambran: he's been told about 3 times, and he is now gaged
[04:24] <MrKeuner> why does't update manager already warn me that there is a release?
[04:24] <Frogzoo> sweetnjguy29: probly wrong mouse driver
[04:24] <Zoohouse> Quick question, I remember read a article somewhere that there was a application made by the ubuntu team so that users of ubuntu 5.10 can upgrade to 6.06 without a CD. Did i dream this up?
[04:24] <claes> jacquesmerde, Nope but all your user config and files you saved would be gone. And the garbage bin is in ~. Hmmm wonder what that would do...
[04:24] <jacquesmerde> grimboy: why not do it? if you dont tell me i'll HAVE to do it. just to see what would happen. the curiousity is toos trong
[04:24] <Lukketto> sweetnjguy29: use the "alternate" iso
[04:24] <Celestar> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[04:24] <Celestar>  'Ubuntu-Server 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release Candidate sparc (20060524.2)
[04:24] <tuxtheslacker> has anyone here dealt with open x-change?
[04:24] <Celestar> it IS in :S
[04:25] <jacquesmerde> claes: yeah, the garbage is in ~. thats exactly what i meant. tehehe
[04:25] <grimboy> jacquesmerde, No, create a new user.
[04:25] <Mark_> hey i still have problems with the cdrom after burning at 12x.. here is a screen: http://eljefe.hopto.org/ubuntu.jpg
[04:25] <claes> jacquesmerde, Try it. And tell us what happens. :-)
[04:25] <grimboy> jacquesmerde, I have a user just for messing about with stuff.
[04:25] <Celestar> :o
[04:25] <Celestar> bash :S
[04:25] <tristanmike> !tell Zoohouse about upgrade
[04:25] <LinuxJones> Mark_, that's a bad disk
[04:26] <Mark_> LinuxJones, cdrom?
[04:26] <MacSlow> Madeye, ok it's complete... sha1sum: 66510c1e66e0227cf6cac1899317361788c82a7e
[04:26] <sk4jvoker> i need to delete the swap partition is it safe
[04:26] <voraistos> Mark_, burn @ 4x ;)
[04:26] <Frogzoo> sk4jvoker: sudo swapoff
[04:26] <MacSlow> Madeye, tell me when you're done with downloading it.
[04:26] <grimboy> jacquesmerde, It would probebly remove everything in ~ except the rubbish bin.
[04:26] <Hamurabbi> does the kubuntu dvd contain both the Desktop and the "Server"/"alternate" versions ?
[04:26] <LinuxJones> Mark_, how many hard drives do you have ?
[04:26] <andrejkw> Hey guys
[04:26] <andrejkw> Is the ubuntuforum down for everyone?
[04:26] <andrejkw> Or is it just me?
[04:26] <Cass> sk4jvoker, safe until the apps you run need to page to disk ....
[04:26] <snoops> what's the alternate version
[04:27] <grimboy> andrejkw, yes.
[04:27] <snoops> yes down for me too andrejkw
[04:27] <Frogzoo> Hamurabbi: the DVDs 3gig, so I'm guessing yes
[04:27] <grimboy> andrejkw, but irc is better anyway.
[04:27] <Frogzoo> !tell Hamurabbi about torrent
[04:27] <Zoohouse> Thank you tristanmike
[04:27] <Madeye> MacSlow, you forgot to give me the URL dude :D
[04:27] <Celestar> ok
[04:27] <jazzido> wtf? update-manager now doesn't shows the "a new distribution is available" button
[04:27] <Celestar> step 1) re-enable root
[04:27] <jazzido> and i'm pretty use i didn't upgrade to dapper :)
[04:27] <jacquesmerde> alternative install would still be more reliable than the livecd one, yeah?
[04:27] <Frogzoo> !tell Madeye about torrent
[04:27] <claes> jazzido, update-manager -d
[04:27] <MacSlow> Madeye, I priv.-messaged you it
[04:28] <Mark_> LinuxJones, 1
[04:28] <jazzido> claes: no good. button's not there
[04:28] <sweetnjguy29> zoo:  http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html  -- check out the end of the document to upgrade w.o a cd
[04:28] <spikeb> claes, you realise the -d bit is only for updating to bleeding edge, and that in a couple weeks, that will send people to edgy, right?
[04:28] <Mark_> LinuxJones, with some partitions
[04:28] <MrKeuner> why does't update manager already warn me that there is a release?
[04:28] <sweetnjguy29> no -d bit to upgrade
[04:28] <jacquesmerde> i take it when using synaptic to remove an app, there's no way to find out what dependencies i instaleld with it? no log? should i have used aptitude instead?
[04:28] <crazy_penguin> i change the nic in my computer and now i can't make it to be configureted automaticly at boot. why is that? also i modified iftab.
[04:29] <jazzido> perhaps breezy thinks that i already updated? how can i fix that?
[04:29] <claes> jazzido, check /etc/issue
[04:29] <Katu> I really like ubuntu OS and i am new to linux linux but unfortunately, my wireless notebook adapter WPC54G ver 4 not working out with UBUNTU, can anyone please help
[04:29] <grimboy> If I started upgrading yesterday will I get half RC and half official?
[04:29] <snoops> so the alternate install is the text based installer?
[04:29] <claes> spikeb, Yes but not today.
[04:29] <Celestar> AAHH
[04:29] <concept10> over a thousand people in the channel? unreal
[04:29] <spikeb> just a warning
[04:29] <jazzido> claes, Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[04:29] <Celestar> does the installer eject the CD?
[04:29] <lefty_2nd> Hi, is it easier to try upgrade a version of Warty on dual boot (thats bit messed up - too much playing not enuff organising) or should I install Dapper from sratch?
[04:29] <Celestar> (during the installation process?)
[04:29] <Cass> katu, i use v5 of that card, you will need to use ndiswrapper
[04:29] <zOap_wrk> To upgrade from breezy to dapper, is the best way to alter 'breezy' to 'dapper' in sources.list and apt-get update / dist-upgrade?
[04:29] <rackerz> can someone tell me why totem can't establish connection to the sound server?
[04:29] <Katu> cass can you please PM me
[04:30] <spikeb> zOap_wrk, the best way is to use the update manager
[04:30] <Mark_> LinuxJones, but would it be necessary to burn the cd again (at 4x)?
[04:30] <snoops> lefty_2nd - I've been finding an issue with dual booting - the boot loader isn't working
[04:30] <claes> jazzido, Strange. Do what zOap_wrk just said then.
[04:30] <tristanmike> lefty_2nd, reinstall, you would have to upgrade to Hoary, then Breezy, then Dapper, you can't do a straight upgrade, it's best to install from scratch
[04:30] <h3sp4wn> zOap_wrk: You might want to try a faster mirror
[04:30] <grimboy> rackerz, bacause sound is broken on dapper.
[04:30] <viS_> how do I install the java sdk 5.0 on ubuntu 6.06 ?
[04:30] <Greg2> hello all
[04:30] <Greg2> wow... i've never been on a channel with over 1000 users
[04:30] <zOap_wrk> spikeb, ok, I'll do that.
[04:30] <Mark_> LinuxJones, cuz i have the feeling that it has to do with something else...
[04:30] <viS_> Is there a package?
[04:30] <tristanmike> gell viS_ about java
[04:30] <rackerz> grimboy, how do i fix it?
[04:30] <tristanmike> !tell viS_ about java
[04:30] <Celestar> ok step 0) get rid of bash
[04:30] <jazzido> claes: already tried that. but for some reason Packages.gz from dapper-updates doesn't gets downloaded
[04:30] <Celestar> the default user may do ANYTHING?
[04:30] <grimboy> rackerz, downgrade?
[04:30] <zOap_wrk> h3sp4wn, I'm using the swedish mirror. works fast
[04:30] <Corey> hey guys all the games I play now are really laggy since i played around wiht the driver settings :(
[04:30] <jazzido> claes: MD5Sum mismatch, actually
[04:30] <concept10> what package(s) do I remove to get rid of my old kernels?
[04:31] <viS_> !javadebs
[04:31] <ubotu> In Breezy: j2re1.4 is in multiverse. In Dapper: sun-java5-jre is in multiverse
[04:31] <Krank1> Got the live CD to work finally
[04:31] <concept10> is it the linux-images?
[04:31] <rackerz> grimboy, im confused, in dapper RC totem worked fine if i used automatix :S
[04:31] <claes> jazzido, Could be your mirror that aren't updated fully yet.
[04:31] <h3sp4wn> z0ap_wrk: It will be fine
[04:31] <zenlinuxNH> Are Ubuntu release celebrations getting out of hand? http://xumbi.eponym.com/_photos/dapper.jpg
[04:31] <MrKeuner> why does't update manager already warn me that there is a release?
[04:31] <LinuxJones> Mark_, how many hard drives do you have ?
[04:31] <jazzido> claes: i'm using archive.ubuntu.com
[04:31] <buzzed> so can we talk about Dapper here now?
[04:31] <lefty_2nd> ty guys, thought so.  Btw what how so you make a live cd version to use a usb drive - sorry for noob questions, now that got dapper im wanting to do more than just play with it when fed up of M$
[04:31] <Mark_> LinuxJones, I told you, one, with some partitions
[04:31] <chavo> concept10, yes
[04:31] <spikeb> yup buzzed :)
[04:31] <kspath> buzzed: yes
[04:31] <tristanmike> viS_, you can "/msg ubotu <factoid>" for a personal one on one encounter with ubotu, just to let you know :)
[04:31] <concept10> zenlinuxNH, what a geek
[04:31] <Mark_> LinuxJones, why would that matter?
[04:31] <Sysop> hola
[04:32] <buzzed> upgrading now...
[04:32] <Hexidigital_> Happy Dapper Day everyone! i assume channel Ubuntu+1 no longer exists??
[04:32] <MarcN> whois zenlinuxNH
[04:32] <Celestar> ok how would I start the ssh daemon?
[04:32] <andrejkw> The Dapper installer is so unreliable, it's insane.
[04:32] <claes> jazzido, Then perhaps it's to hammered by all the release champange. Or perhaps by all the downloads. :-)
[04:32] <buzzed> ubuntu+1 is still there
[04:32] <zenlinuxNH> That's actually a co-worder of mine, my photo is much tamer.
[04:32] <Katu> cass u there? why you not responding
[04:32] <Hexidigital_> Celestar:: have you installed openssh?
[04:32] <Frogzoo> buzzed: yep
[04:32] <viS_> tristanmike: i get the following error: E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin
[04:32] <grimboy> Celestar, try ssh 127.1 because it runs automatically from install of ubuntu for me.
[04:32] <Celestar> Hexidigital_: lets see.
[04:32] <shenki> jdub, noticed your blog post and tried out 'apt-get install vmware-player'
[04:32] <snoops> what kind of installer does 'alternate' have?
[04:32] <dunnix> hello everyone
[04:32] <LinuxJones> Mark_, becauwse I don't know if you have another hard drive on /dev/hdc. Your cdrom has bad sectors on it.
[04:32] <buzzed> i have 1 hour 22 minutes
[04:33] <snoops> because the desktop release uses the live cd to install, doesn't it?
[04:33] <tristanmike> viS_, have you enabled the repos ?
[04:33] <Cass> Katu, i pm'd you, did you not get a screen with me ?
[04:33] <tristanmike> !tell viS_ about repos
[04:33] <kspath> buzzed:
[04:33] <kspath> buzzed:  ?
[04:33] <Hexidigital_> Celestar:: you installing server or client?>
[04:33] <Celestar> Hexidigital_: server
[04:33] <shenki> a question, does the system require a reboot before you can run vmware-player?
[04:33] <Celestar> Hexidigital_: problems with finding the CD.
[04:33] <Cass> Katu, i did it again
[04:33] <buzzed> my upgrade via upgrade-manager
[04:33] <Hexidigital_> Celestar:: ok... in terminal -> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:33] <fatalblu> is vmware-server in multiverse?
[04:33] <Katu> cass: i only got hi frmo you and then i explained you my situation, look like i have to register my nick first
[04:33] <Celestar> Hexidigital_: yeah, but it can't read the CD for some reason ...
[04:33] <Cass> ahh ok, i didnt see your reply
[04:34] <Mark_> LinuxJones, but what should i try now? burn at 4x?
[04:34] <Hexidigital_> Celestar:: you should disable the cdrom repos
[04:34] <claes> fatalblu, Only vmware-player I think.
[04:34] <jazzido> claes: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[04:34] <Katu> cass: let me register my nick first hold on ok
[04:34] <fatalblu> claes :-(
[04:34] <kspath> Katu: /msg nickserv help
[04:34] <Cass> ok
[04:34] <rackerz> can anybody help me fix my sound?
[04:34] <Celestar> Hexidigital_: I'd do that how?
[04:34] <fatalblu> server is the one i want to keep updated, i don't care about player
[04:34] <claes> jazzido, Check another mirror.
[04:34] <dunnix> rackerz: whats wrong with your sound?
[04:34] <voraistos>  is the UK mirror OK ?
[04:34] <Hexidigital_> Celestar:: system -> administration -> synaptic package manager :: click Settings-> repositories
[04:34] <rackerz> totem says it cannot establish connection to the sound server
[04:35] <Hexidigital_> Celestar:: lemme know when you get there
[04:35] <claes> fatalblu, perhaps the server will come when it's released. Depends on vmware license.
[04:35] <Celestar> Hexidigital_: I have no GUI, telnet only :)
[04:35] <dunnix> rackerz: does your other sound work?
[04:35] <Greg2> i'm a bit confused about which 6.06 iso i need to d/l... it's for a permanent dual boot setup
[04:35] <Greg2> do i want the desktop, server, or alternate install iso?
[04:35] <Hexidigital_> Celestar:: :( sorry, dont know how to do it by command line
[04:35] <Ng> Greg2: desktop
[04:35] <Frogzoo> Greg2: alternate if ur upgrading?
[04:35] <buzzed> so what are you all looking forward to in Dapper?
[04:35] <Celestar> Hexidigital_: I'll find out
[04:35] <Hexidigital_> Celestar:: can you read graphical websites?
[04:35] <Ng> Celestar: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:36] <Stork> dapper isn't cool :(
[04:36] <Hexidigital_> ubotu:: tell Celestar about easysource
[04:36] <LinuxJones> Mark_, check the md5 sum of the .iso file you downloaded (I dunno how to do that in windows)
[04:36] <Frogzoo> buzzed: instant lamp install's nice
[04:36] <grimboy> Celestar, telnet is evil
[04:36] <voraistos> dapper has a nice name ;)
[04:36] <Celestar> grimboy: make a suggestion ..
[04:36] <fatalblu> rsh!
[04:36] <grimboy> Celestar, ssh
[04:36] <Hexidigital_> Celestar:: ubotu sent you a private message with how to configure the repos
[04:36] <snoops> linuxboy there's a program called md5sum people can grab.. there's another called md5summer
[04:36] <MINK9Y> screw fopp, I'm a dapper dan man!
[04:36] <Mark_> LinuxJones, i already did
[04:36] <snoops> LinuxJones*
[04:36] <Celestar> grimboy: if you followed the discussion, that's what I'm trying to install ...
[04:36] <fatalblu> nien, use nc connected to sh!
[04:36] <grimboy> Celestar, oh, oops
[04:37] <rackerz> dunnix: No i don't think my sound is working :(
[04:37] <Hexidigital_> grimboy:: we're trying to install ssh, can't get the repos correct
[04:37] <snoops> I love how my dual booting with dapper doesn't even work!
[04:37] <Celestar> grimboy: I'm actually on a serial console, 9600bps
[04:37] <grimboy> Celestar, eek
[04:37] <voraistos> Celestar: that is a challenge
[04:37] <fatalblu> real men run apt-get dist-upgrade across a null modem cable!
[04:37] <LinuxJones> Mark_, if they are ok change to another brand of cdrom and burn at like 4x liek you said
[04:37] <Celestar> grimboy: the computer has no VGA or DVI port, or any graphics card for that matter
[04:37] <dunnix> rackers : mine either
[04:37] <MrKeuner> why does't update manager already warn me that there is a release?
[04:38] <fatalblu> who you calling a geek?
[04:38] <Hexidigital_> fatalblu:: well, myself, actually... but i'm not alone
[04:38] <Hexidigital_> MINK9Y:: :-P
[04:38] <SurfnKid> !sensors
[04:38] <voraistos> everybody is ;)
[04:38] <ubotu> from memory, sensors is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[04:38] <iNiku> how would you guys install dapper on an existing system that has /home (which needs to be preserved) on LVM?
[04:38] <LinuxJones> MrKeuner, because it's looking at different sources if you were on Ubuntu Breezy
[04:38] <Celestar> WEE
[04:38] <Celestar> I have ssh :)
[04:39] <Hexidigital_> Celestar:: excellent :)
[04:39] <grimboy> Celestar, YAY!
[04:39] <Celestar> great.
[04:39] <[zero] > How come I cant see my other HDD which has win XP on?
[04:39] <Hexidigital_> Celestar:: now ditch the TELNET
[04:39] <MrKeuner> LinuxJones/ What do you mean by sources? repositories?
[04:39] <LinuxJones> iNiku, jsut do a normal install but custom partitioning
[04:39] <snoops> I so wish the forums were up so I could, post my problem
[04:39] <LinuxJones> MrKeuner, yes
[04:39] <tarzeau> pony!
[04:39] <Hexidigital_> snoops:: what's the problem?
[04:39] <Celestar> Hexidigital_: nope, it's the ALOM
[04:39] <MrKeuner> Which reposotry should be there? in order to upgrade?
[04:39] <iNiku> LinuxJones: it will recognize LVM?
[04:39] <grimboy> !tell tarzeau about ponie
[04:39] <iNiku> LinuxJones: a pre-existing LVM setup, that is
[04:39] <Celestar> Hexidigital_: telnet works even if the machine is powered off :)
[04:40] <Hexidigital_> Celestar:: ah, i see :)
[04:40] <Celestar> vici@niagara:[/home/vici] > grep ncpu /proc/cpuinfo
[04:40] <Celestar> ncpus probed    : 32
[04:40] <Celestar> ncpus active    : 32
[04:40] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: you need alternative cd to do lvm
[04:40] <sweetnjguy29> hands agrajag a bandaid
[04:40] <Celestar> 32 CPU found \o/
[04:40] <Stork> je n'aime pas dapper
[04:40] <LinuxJones> MrKeuner, you can upgrade to dapper using update-notifier but the servers are overloaded. Download using bittorrent, burn the cd and insert it into your drive it will ask if you want to upgrade to dapper.
[04:40] <Celestar> whats next?
[04:40] <grimboy> Celestar, that's a pretty serious piece of kit.
[04:40] <voraistos> dapper, c' est que du bon
[04:40] <Celestar> ..
[04:40] <kspath> Stork: english?
[04:40] <Celestar> grimboy: yeah :)
[04:40] <ubuntugeek> any canonical system admin in here? please msg me if so
[04:40] <Celestar> grimboy: gotta try samba next :)
[04:40] <Stork> i don't like dapper.
[04:40] <kspath> voraistos: english?
[04:40] <Hexidigital_> voraistos:: /join #ubuntu-fr
[04:40] <spikeb> ah well
[04:40] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: okay, can that install on pre-existing logical volumes, preserving /home?
[04:41] <MrKeuner> LinuxJones/ OK I see
[04:41] <kimo> Stork: what's ur problem?
[04:41] <Stork> Celestar, what cpu's are they?
[04:41] <LinuxJones> iNiku, ohh I don't use lvm I can't say for sure sorry.
[04:41] <Celestar> grimboy: any way to enable a full root access?
[04:41] <neoncode> What's the diffrence bettween Desktop dapper ubuntu and Server dapper?
[04:41] <DShepherd> Stork: why?
[04:41] <neoncode> Execpt the lack of GUI
[04:41] <flithm> hey everyone... I followed the method on the wiki for upgrading to 6.06 using "update-manager" and it doesn't give me any choice to upgrade the distro... it just says I'm up to date with my packages?
[04:41] <Hexidigital_> voraistos:: sorry
[04:41] <viS_> How do I get the notification area plugin in xchat to work? (Ubuntu 6.06)
[04:41] <DShepherd> neoncode: one has more server like stuff
[04:41] <Stork> well
[04:41] <Celestar> Stork: a Single Ultrasparc T1 (8 Core CPU. 4 threads / core)
[04:41] <jsgotangco> neoncode: server can install LAMP by default
[04:41] <snoops> Hexidigital_: desktop 6.06 install.. it doesn't work with dual booting.. tells me it's installing grub (with an hdd which has a primary windows install first, then 2 ext3 partitions(/ and /boot) and swap) then says it's scanning for hdd's to add to grub.. then tells me to reboot.. then no grub and straight boot to xp.
[04:41] <grimboy> Celestar: sudo ps root or something simelar.
[04:41] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: Yep
[04:41] <Stork> Celestar, score!
[04:41] <Stork> well, i don't like dapper for a number of reasons
[04:41] <Zoohouse> Has ubuntu 6.06 been released yet? My upgrade manager doesn't seem to pick it up and I am using the ver. that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades explains to use. (0.42.2ubuntu12~breezy1 or newer)
[04:41] <grimboy> Celestar: or just shove sudo -i in your bootup script.
[04:41] <LinuxJones> flithm, you were running Dapper previously ?
[04:41] <Hexidigital_> snoops:: does your xp install have dynamic discs?
[04:42] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: Go on expert mode (to make sure)
[04:42] <neoncode> I need to put a server on a machene but I need a GUI and verious other tools to set it up...
[04:42] <[zero] > Anyone know why I cant see my other "slave" HDD which has windows on it?
[04:42] <brainlessbob> How do I eject the cd drive?
[04:42] <Stork> for one the workspace switcher doesn't show the icon of the window that's on that workspace
[04:42] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: does it also handle /root on lvm?
[04:42] <snoops> Hexidigital_ nope
[04:42] <flithm> LinuxJones, No I'm using 5.10!
[04:42] <jals> i have the correct version of update manager in breezy badger but it's not showing 6.06 when i check for updates, any ideas why?
[04:42] <tuxtheslacker> hey, can someone do me a favor, and send me the update link agian?
[04:42] <Celestar> sudo -i ...
[04:42] <Stork> also, the new gaim version doesn't tell me when someone's closed the convo on msn.
[04:42] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: lvm on top of md, even
[04:42] <tuxtheslacker> I'm triyn gto update via the CD.
[04:42] <Hexidigital_> snoops:: did you install grub to the MBR (master boot record)?
[04:42] <DShepherd> Stork: it should
[04:42] <Stork> dapper.. ce n'est pas cool.
[04:42] <grimboy> brainlessbob, right click on the icon, eject.
[04:42] <fatalblu> i'm no chump, i'm super secure with windows nt!
[04:42] <flithm> Zoohouse, I have the same problem
[04:42] <voraistos> !fr
[04:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:42] <Celestar> ssh daemon running \o/
[04:42] <UserName14> In ubuntu RC I could not dock things like azureus to the system tray can soemone tell me if they had the same problem in the RC and if its fixed now the final is out
[04:42] <LinuxJones> flithm, download the cd using bittorrent, the servers are overloaded
[04:42] <brainlessbob> grimboy thanks :D
[04:42] <DShepherd> Stork: that's not dappers fault. that feature was taken out of gaim.
[04:42] <Celestar> samab daemon running \o/
[04:42] <snoops> Hexidigital_ it never asked me to....after I chose the install for boot, / and swap..it begin the install
[04:43] <tuxtheslacker> someone, please?
[04:43] <voraistos> Stork: si t aimes pas dapper; reste a breezy ;)
[04:43] <snoops> then during the install it said it was installing grub
[04:43] <Greg2> Frogzoo: thanks... d/l ing now
[04:43] <snoops> so it never asked me where
[04:43] <gnomefreak> !es
[04:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:43] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: erm, / on lvm+md, obviously, not /root
[04:43] <Zoohouse> tuxtheslacker, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[04:43] <nathansnook> does ubuntu support GPS devices
[04:43] <kspath> !fr
[04:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:43] <Hexidigital_> snoops:: it should be after the install... it should ask if you want GRUB installed on the MBR... something else is the problem if that didn't happen
[04:43] <Krank1> Now to get the DVD iso
[04:43] <Stork> DShepherd, yeah, and that was like the best feature of gaim
[04:43] <DShepherd> nathansnook: i hope so
[04:43] <tubbie> any one knows how to disable usb for qemu??
[04:43] <flithm> LinuxJones, weak I'm not downloading the freakin CD... I'll just wait :)
[04:43] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: I have never tried it but i think it does (tried lvm of /home though)
[04:43] <Frogzoo> !tell Greg2 about torrent
[04:43] <SHUTTLEWRTH> MARK SHUTTLEWORTH AND CANONICAL ANNOUNCE LINUX FOR NIGGERS
[04:43] <[zero] > How come I cant see my other HDD which has win XP on?
[04:43] <SHUTTLEWRTH> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
[04:43] <SHUTTLEWRTH> ISLE OF MAN - June 1, 2006 - At a press conference today, Canonical CEO and Free Software spokesnigger Mark Shuttleworth announced the immediate availability of version 6.06 of the Ubuntu Linux distribution. The latest version, known by its code name, "The Diaper Drake," includes special features designed to make Linux easier and more comfortable for niggers the world over.
[04:43] <SHUTTLEWRTH> "Niggers have always had trouble understanding new technology," Shuttleworth began. "Computers are no exception. Some people have said this is because niggers are dumb, but I believe the real problem is that technology has traditionally been designed for white people. Ubuntu changes all that. It was developed from the ground up with niggers in mind. It will usher in a whole new era of Afro-ergonomic computing."
[04:43] <DShepherd> Stork: if you go to #gaim and ask, they'll tell you why
[04:43] <SHUTTLEWRTH> Shuttleworth presented an overview of some of the features users could expect in the latest version of Ubuntu, including an Ebonics-to-English converter, African "tribal beats" sound and desktop theme, and a collection of rap music and gay pornography, "which of course will be encoded using patent and royalty-free formats," Shuttleworth added, smiling. He proceeded to elaborate, but OpenOffice.org Impress crashed at that point.
[04:44] <Celestar> hm ...
[04:44] <Hexidigital_> thank you gnomefreak
[04:44] <snoops> Hexidigital_, after the install is complete it says to reboot, and make sure the cd it taken out :)
[04:44] <iNiku> wtf?
[04:44] <LinuxJones> flithm, the demand is insane :)
[04:44] <NthDegree> [zero] : in ubuntu or on GRUB?
[04:44] <KenSentMe> Hi, this afternoon i've installed rtorrent on my machine to manage torrent downloads using putty. Now when i start rtorrent it doesn't continue downloading. How do i check if my downloaded files are complete or how do i continue the downloads?
[04:44] <Celestar> apt kind of rocks
[04:44] <Frogzoo> iNiku: xactly
[04:44] <Celestar> I never noticed
[04:44] <snoops> have you tried the new 6.06 gui installer Hexidigital_?
[04:44] <Celestar> is there any central administration tool in ubuntu?
[04:44] <MrKeuner> does dapper-dvd include desktop server and alternate(whatever it means)?
[04:44] <kspath> apparently a worthless moron resides @69.46.139.69
[04:44] <Toran> Hey guys, I'm having some SERIOUS problems with my upgrade, can anyone help?
[04:44] <Hexidigital_> snoops:: i dont know... yes, i use 6.06 now, and am very familiar with the installer for my config
[04:44] <DShepherd> Stork: and the workspace does show you the icon. so what else is your problem? what else dont you like
[04:44] <neoncode> Bah. I'll get ubuntu server and I'll SHH to it or something with my Laptop....
[04:44] <Toran> I'm getting the following message on apt-get operations: gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgconf-2.so.4: undefined symbol: g_slice_alloc0
[04:45] <LinuxJones> Celestar, not a centralized one, System >> Administration
[04:45] <Toran> And it errors out on stuff and I am stuck.
[04:45] <Celestar> LinuxJones: ok lets see if I have an X server installed :)
[04:45] <Stork> DShepherd, it doesn't for me
[04:45] <Hexidigital_> snoops:: i dont know... something is wrong there, if grub didnt ask where to install
[04:45] <Toran> Someone PLEASE help me
[04:45] <NthDegree> kspath, thought you were gonna say useless morons are in the ip range 88.107.*.* :P
[04:45] <sweetnjguy29> Has anyone had a trouble free upgrade?
[04:45] <grimboy> installArchives() failed :(
[04:45] <eXistenZ> !plf
[04:45] <DShepherd> Stork: ok. i think it should
[04:45] <ubotu> I guess plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[04:45] <buzzed> is there any concern about this " warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)"
[04:45] <[zero] > NthDegree, in ubuntu
[04:45] <NthDegree> Toran, what is the problem
[04:45] <grimboy> sweetnjguy29, not me
[04:45] <Celestar> LinuxJones: no X server. any ncurses / CLI thingy?
[04:45] <LinuxJones> sweetnjguy29, most peopel yeah
[04:45] <AngryElf_> is there a wiki page on the difference between alternative/server/desktop versions??
[04:45] <Zoohouse> flithm, are you using 0.42.2ubuntu12~br ?
[04:45] <claes> sweetnjguy29, So far trouble free.
[04:46] <NthDegree> [zero] : you don't see it because it probably isn't mounted
[04:46] <Toran> Where can I paste? the upgrade broke firefox.
[04:46] <snoops> Hexidigital_, doesn't make sense.. it said it was installing grub, then it told me grub was scanning for bootable hdd's.
[04:46] <grimboy> !paste
[04:46] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[04:46] <LinuxJones> Celestar, what are you trying to fix /
[04:46] <snoops> then it said it was complete, and that I should reboot
[04:46] <[zero] > Oh right thankx
[04:46] <kspath> NthDegree: Why would I say that?
[04:46] <Frogzoo> voraistos: in the US there's been some extrem right wing agitation against linux - it's a terrorist threat & supported by democrats blah blah
[04:46] <siimz> is there an i586 iso of ubuntu dapper? or just a 386?
[04:46] <dfgas> man this ca0106 sound card sux arse, i need to turn the volume of my mike up
[04:46] <Zoohouse> flithm, i mean update manager ver.  0.42.2ubuntu12~br
[04:46] <Toran> I just said my firefox broke.
[04:46] <NoUse> siimz just 386
[04:46] <dfgas> mic
[04:46] <LinuxJones> siimz, i386
[04:46] <NthDegree> kspath, my IP is in that range :)
[04:46] <qsrv> hi
[04:46] <Celestar> LinuxJones: I'm trying to get used to ubuntu. All that on a headless server (ultrasparc-based)
[04:46] <Frogzoo> siimz: get the 386 iso & upgrade to 686 kernel
[04:47] <flithm> Zoohouse, yeah I think it doesn't automatically upgrade like everyone says it says... I am following the manual method, and it works fine
[04:47] <threat> Frogzoo, heh, yeah, using linux means your a commy
[04:47] <Toran> Everything is broken
[04:47] <Toran> I can't visit webpages
[04:47] <NthDegree> Toran:  Just use synaptic to reinstall firefox
[04:47] <SurfnKid> any reason why my XMMS sound is so crappy?
[04:47] <shriphani> guys my update manager doesnt detect drapper
[04:47] <keithg> flithm, What is the manual method?
[04:47] <Toran> Synaptic won't start
[04:47] <jazzido> ok, now this is stupid. updated my sources.list, did apt-get update, and this is what i get from apt-get dist-upgrade:
[04:47] <Zoohouse> flithm, sounds good
[04:47] <jazzido> The following packages will be upgraded:
[04:47] <jazzido>   pcmcia-cs
[04:47] <Hexidigital_> snoops:: i dont know, sorry :( but dont quit on us, there are lots of brilliant people that answer questions very quickly
[04:47] <siimz> NoUse, LinuxJones, Frogzoo, ok thanks ;)
[04:47] <The_Machine> same here shriphani
[04:47] <Toran> synaptic: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_intern_static_string
[04:47] <sweetnjguy29> Frogzoo:  have u been reading shelleytherepublican?
[04:47] <qsrv> a more gnome and evolution related question : is there an easy way to make evolution automatically delete old messages (spread across several folders) ?
[04:47] <NthDegree> Toran, then aptitude
[04:47] <grimboy> SurfnKid, you're not using the eq?
[04:47] <The_Machine> having problems with the repositories
[04:47] <The_Machine> i think
[04:47] <voraistos> Frogzoo: ??????? in the US the have ill people. And they have Bill Gates too. They cant be normal.
[04:47] <Celestar> how do I install some X server?
[04:47] <shriphani> guys how to update using apt-get ?
[04:47] <Frogzoo> sweetnjguy29: that's the one!!! what a winner
[04:47] <dfgas> jazzido, did you upgrade to the rc?
[04:47] <snoops> Hexidigital_..it feels like a forum question to me!..but the forums are down
[04:47] <jazzido> dfgas: rc?
[04:47] <snoops> of course
[04:47] <SurfnKid> grimboy, yeah but the bass sounds distorted and in Windows it sounds just fine
[04:48] <sweetnjguy29> frogzoo:  i think its a flame/troll site
[04:48] <jazzido> dfgas: ah, no
[04:48] <NthDegree> shriphani: apt-get update then apt-get upgrade
[04:48] <dfgas> oh
[04:48] <jazzido> dfgas: i didn't upgrade at all! I can't!
[04:48] <flithm> keithg, check the wiki, it's right below the update-manager way
[04:48] <tubbie> how do I install kernel dev files??
[04:48] <shriphani> ok
[04:48] <grimboy> SurfnKid, your speakers arn't properly plugged in?
[04:48] <keithg> flithm,  Thanks for the information.
[04:48] <shriphani> so that will install drapper ?
[04:48] <Celestar> HELL
[04:48] <Zoohouse> flithm, it might work later in the day maybe. I noticed that the xubuntu link on the ubuntu site is also dead
[04:48] <Frogzoo> sweetnjguy29: I think our recent friend may have been fired up by just that article
[04:48] <The_Machine> apt-get update is giving me an error, NthDegree
[04:48] <jazzido> dfgas: update-manager thinks i'm up to date. but i'm *not*
[04:48] <shriphani> dapper ^
[04:48] <Celestar> installing kdm takes a shitload of packages
[04:48] <Zoohouse> Well i gata run, later flithm
[04:48] <Hexidigital_> NthDegree:: shouldn't that be sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:48] <neoncode> I have a computer that needs to function as a server and a Desktop Computer. Witch version do I get?
[04:48] <NthDegree> shriphani: apt-get dist-upgrade to get dapper
[04:48] <shriphani> ok
[04:48] <The_Machine> anyone know what repositories i should be suing?
[04:48] <The_Machine> using, even
[04:48] <The_Machine> (lol)
[04:48] <SurfnKid> grimboy, theyre built in, sounds like the song is ok but with a gargle distortion on it and makes the bass sound weird, what do u use?
[04:48] <shriphani> so that will upgrade my system without f00king my data up ?
[04:48] <iNiku> The_Machine: I wouldn't sue just yet :)
[04:48] <The_Machine> i think mine are jacked up.
[04:49] <Frogzoo> sweetnjguy29: oh, you mean it's a spoof site!? sad it's so hard to tell these days *sigh*
[04:49] <The_Machine> haha iNiku :)
[04:49] <grimboy> "The upgrade aborts now, your system could be unstable"... crap.
[04:49] <sweetnjguy29> frogzoo:  just the stuff that dude says is so off the wall, its gotta be a troll -- http://shelleytherepublican.com/
[04:49] <grimboy> Argh...
[04:49] <NthDegree> Hexidigital:  I don't use sudo, I use su for security so I never tell anyone else to do anything I don't do myself
[04:49] <sweetnjguy29> I think it makes fun of http://shelleytherepublican.blogspot.com/
[04:49] <Celestar> 72 packages to install
[04:49] <Celestar> wow
[04:49] <snoops> what's the alternate install for?
[04:49] <Hexidigital_> NthDegree:: i actually meant the dist-upgrade part
[04:49] <Celestar> apt rocks :)
[04:49] <Hexidigital_> NthDegree:: but you said it later on
[04:50] <jazzido> Celestar: apt sucks.
[04:50] <Deep1> anyone know why I am getting bzip errors with the ca archive?
[04:50] <grimboy> snoops, people with less than 192MB of ram.
[04:50] <snoops> because maybe it's just the desktop install which has this inane problem
[04:50] <jazzido> ;)
[04:50] <ubuntuNewbee> hi there to all
[04:50] <shriphani> man even apt-get says i am up to date
[04:50] <claes> snoops, Text based install. The "old" install cd.
[04:50] <snoops> ah right, thanks grimboy
[04:50] <shriphani> what is going on
[04:50] <grimboy> hey ubuntuNewbee
[04:50] <snoops> ohh
[04:50] <Celestar> jazzido: why? :P
[04:50] <The_Machine> little help for a list of where i can find good repositories to upgrade with?
[04:50] <The_Machine> i think my list is jacked up :)
[04:50] <NthDegree> shriphani: apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:50] <shriphani> i did that
[04:50] <ubuntuNewbee> I have a tough question, please
[04:50] <claes> jazzido, use aptitude then. same syntax as apt-get but better.
[04:50] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell The_Machine about sources
[04:50] <shriphani> says 0 to upgrade 0 to install and 0 to remove
[04:51] <NthDegree> shriphani: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade#
[04:51] <jazzido> Celestar: this is so frustrating. really. i think there's a file somewhere that makes upgrade-manager think that i already updated
[04:51] <NthDegree> without the # tho
[04:51] <The_Machine> thanks gnomefreak
[04:51] <shriphani> ok
[04:51] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:51] <SurfnKid> grimboy, i think i got it, XMMS volume was maxxed and MAIN VOL was too low so that did it
[04:51] <ubuntuNewbee> I've just tried to install Dapper on a system with 256MB of RAM
[04:51] <Fracture> where can I find out what's on the DVD iso ?
[04:51] <mathieu> shriphani: you need to alter sources.list first probably
[04:51] <Frogzoo> !tell The_Machine about torrent
[04:51] <guillem101> wow! what a traumatic upgrade! Seems that everything is working right now bug I have had problems with openoffice's lib32 stuff in my AMD64...
[04:51] <grimboy> Wow, gksudo has completely changed
[04:51] <jdmpike> exit
[04:51] <SurfnKid> gotta shower i got an appointment and im running late
[04:51] <SurfnKid> bbl
[04:51] <eXistenZ> why isn't there a shortcut for nautilus in the accessories menu?
[04:51] <shriphani> and what do i put in there ?
[04:51] <ubuntuNewbee> is there a way to install it without going through Live?
[04:51] <jazzido> and now, it seems that the whole dapper deal it's just about a SINGLE package
[04:51] <snoops> well I guess I'll try an install of alternate, because I bet it's the graphical installer stuffing up
[04:51] <grimboy> It now blanks out the screen.
[04:51] <mathieu> shriphani: replace breezy by dapper
[04:52] <shriphani> all repos ?
[04:52] <krazykit> ubuntuNewbee: the alternative install cd will do it
[04:52] <claes> jazzido, What have you been using before?
[04:52] <shriphani> all repositories ?
[04:52] <ubuntuNewbee> that's text based install, right?
[04:52] <kane77> can anyone help repartition my harddrive??
[04:52] <krazykit> shriphani: comment/remove the backports repo, if you have.  there are no edgy backports yet
[04:52] <concept10> which kernel is the smp kernel ?
[04:52] <gnomefreak> shriphani: yes
[04:52] <void^> ubuntuNewbee: the alternate cd perhaps. i just had no problems installing from live on a 256mb ram system, though
[04:52] <jazzido> claes: what what? distro? upgrade method?
[04:52] <krazykit> ubuntuNewbee: yeah, it is
[04:52] <gnomefreak> all of them is fine
[04:52] <eXistenZ> !plf
[04:52] <ubotu> I guess plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[04:52] <NthDegree> shriphani:  Download the alternate install CD and install dapper
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> http://www.mirror.ac.uk/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ (is still working very quickly) if you want to dist-upgrade
[04:52] <shriphani> i have a download limit
[04:52] <claes> jazzido, What version of ubuntu?
[04:52] <gnomefreak> NthDegree: hes upgrading
[04:52] <Frogzoo> !tell shriphani about torrent
[04:52] <jazzido> claes: breezy
[04:52] <shriphani> ok i am gonna download that
[04:53] <ubuntuNewbee> well that's a big step aside from FC5 style of installing
[04:53] <lefty_2nd> Anyone have a link to a guide for running a live cd of ubuntu - wanting to show to work that can run and save documents, update OS and programs, off of just 2 or 3 cds (1386, ppcand possbily amd64) and a USB drive.  Not tried to do this b4 (only got usb drive last week :) ), and want to learn the basics b4 Monday if I can.  Forums a little slow atm or id do a full crawl there :)
[04:53] <Puffball> I installed a couple of packages from the debian repository, remove the sources, but later a few packages are then broken. So, when I remove the broken package it prompts me showing that a gazillion packages need to be removed along with it, even though it is a duplicate version of a package I already have, but from the debian server. So, in result, none of the packages will install and the update manager prompts "software index
[04:53] <Puffball>  broken" and closes, so would anybody have an idea on how to fix this?
[04:53] <_pm> im using the ubuntu flight 6, how can i upgrade it to the final version?
[04:53] <grimboy> What do I do if I got half way throught the upgrade then it said I was on my own?
[04:53] <claes> jazzido, No fiddling with dapper at all. Release candidates and so on?
[04:53] <ubuntuNewbee> Ubuntu wants to be a Linux fro humans
[04:53] <gnomefreak> Puffball: dont use debian repos on ubuntu
[04:53] <moonlite1> i need to concatenate two pdf-documents. any ideas?
[04:53] <NoUse> _pm sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:53] <gnomefreak> Puffball: the repos are not binary compatable with ubuntu
[04:53] <ubuntuNewbee> it should be a way to install it directly graphical
[04:54] <concept10> None of the new kernels have the -smp tag.  Anyone know which kernel in the repo supports HT?
[04:54] <ubuntuNewbee> don't you think?
[04:54] <jazzido> claes: no, i tried to upgrade to a RC but got bitten by a bug involving ubuntu-desktop (it's on launchpad, i reported it a gazillion times, other people too, never got a response)
[04:54] <Frogzoo> moonlite1: pdf2ps ?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> ubuntuNewbee: the desktop cd has a gui installer
[04:54] <Puffball> gnomefreak, well yes, I know that now
[04:54] <ubuntuNewbee> yes
[04:54] <buzzed> "Downloading and installing the upgrades"
[04:54] <kane77> brb
[04:54] <tubbie> how do I set which gcc version to work?
[04:54] <NthDegree> gnomefreak:  i've seen debian stuff in universe and debian say they are supposed to be
[04:54] <ubuntuNewbee> but it goes through Live
[04:54] <void^> ubuntuNewbee: i just installed, it's a matter of 5 to 10 clicks now, easiest setup ever
[04:54] <Celestar> hm?
[04:54] <claes> jazzido, Did you then downgrade again?
[04:54] <jitu> cass i am katu
[04:54] <Celestar> now windowmaker?
[04:54] <Celestar> no*
[04:54] <Jowi> Puffball, gnomefreak: would a apt-get autoclean solve that maybe?
[04:54] <Frogzoo> tubbie: makefiles usually accept CC as an env
[04:54] <gnomefreak> Puffball: you can try to take them out of list and run sudo apt-get -f install
[04:54] <h3sp4wn> Puffball: If you need something from sid just get the source packages and build against the dapper libs
[04:54] <ubuntuNewbee> void^ Trust me
[04:55] <ubuntuNewbee> I tried
[04:55] <jazzido> claes: never upgraded. update-manager never got the the point of actually downloading the dapper packages
[04:55] <gnomefreak> NthDegree: they are not compatible
[04:55] <Puffball> ah
[04:55] <KenSentMe> ubuntuNewbee: what do you mean by goes through live?
[04:55] <ubuntuNewbee> it is painfully slow
[04:55] <jazzido> claes: "restoring the system ot its original state" and so on
[04:55] <ubuntuNewbee> LIVE CD
[04:55] <Celestar> 125 leechers :o
[04:55] <sasa> haaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooo
[04:55] <Frogzoo> !tell ubuntuNewbee about torrent
[04:55] <Celestar> people suck me off :P
[04:55] <moonlite1> Frogzoo: hm, that will just get me two postscript-files. How do i concatenate them?
[04:55] <gnomefreak> sasa: stop that
[04:55] <KenSentMe> ubuntuNewbee: no, you don't have to use a live cd, just download the iso of the install cd
[04:55] <claes> jazzido, Aha. didn't know it could do that.
[04:55] <robinl1> What to do with VIA DXS switches in alsamixer?
[04:55] <Corey> um
[04:55] <kspath> sasa: Please do not do that.
[04:55] <lord_rob> ubuntuNewbee: maybe remove the cd from your drive ? :)
[04:55] <robinl1> because the sound volume is low.
[04:55] <robinl1> Can anyone help me?
[04:55] <lenny__> hi I just installed ubuntu and now I'm feeling the urge to steal a bike. is this normal?
[04:55] <Frogzoo> moonlite1: ummm....
[04:55] <Corey> my games are acting very very lagy like 1fps laggy what can I do ?
[04:55] <NthDegree> gnomefreak: sources should be compatible in theory though
[04:55] <gnomefreak> Celestar: watch your language
[04:56] <MINK9Y> I just installed an old xbox 8Gb HDD in my machine, wanting to format it and install ubuntu. running the livecd, but gparted doesn't seem to want to format the drive. any suggestions?
[04:56] <snoops> lenny__ very.
[04:56] <robinl1> lenny_: Nice joke.
[04:56] <sweetnjguy29> robin: have you tried the alsamixer package?
[04:56] <gnomefreak> NthDegree: they are not differnt packages with different names/versions
[04:56] <void^> ubuntuNewbee: check your cd media and drive combo. it did take nearly 1 hour to install because the dvd drive in this laptop reads cdrws at single speed. other that, no issues.
[04:56] <robinl1> ..
[04:56] <Puffball> Jowi, not really, it just deleted all the obsolete packages left over from the dapper upgrade
[04:56] <void^> +than
[04:56] <robinl1> sweetnjguy29, care to read my question again?
[04:56] <tubbie> ERROR: "gcc" looks like gcc 4.x
[04:56] <tubbie> QEMU is known to have problems when compiled with gcc 4.x
[04:56] <tubbie> It is recommended that you use gcc 3.x to build QEMU
[04:56] <Lukketto> lenny: it's normal! :)
[04:56] <claes> jazzido, Have you changed every instance of breezy to dapper in you /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:56] <Celestar> gnomefreak: sworry
[04:56] <robinl1> (14:55:06) robinl1: What to do with VIA DXS switches in alsamixer?
[04:56] <Frogzoo> tubbie: 'export CC=gcc-3.4' & try again
[04:56] <h3sp4wn> tubbie: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[04:56] <Puffball> gnomefreak, what list are you talking about?
[04:57] <lefty_2nd> Anyone time to answer a few basic questions about live cd and using usb drive - wanting to show work dapper on pc and mac with live cd
[04:57] <Frogzoo> spikeb: stop - you'll grind your teeth down
[04:57] <MrKeuner> does dapper-dvd include desktop server and alternate(whatever it means)?
[04:57] <Corey> I have ultra laggy games
[04:57] <jazzido> claes: yes, did it twice. and when i try to dist-upgrade, apt just wants to download A SINGLE PACKAGE (pcmcia something)
[04:57] <Corey> and before it wasnt
[04:57] <sasa> ghjgjsasetrAEWTTJ89484JJJJJJJ
[04:57] <Corey> is there something i can install to fix ?
[04:57] <kspath> sasa: bye
[04:57] <snoops> MrKeuner where can you get dapper-dvd?
[04:57] <izmaelis> dies anyone have any problems with automounting samba share in /etc/fstab?
[04:57] <tubbie> same error!
[04:57] <jazzido> claes: i think there's some stale reference to dapper somewhere. know a safe way to clean that?
[04:57] <tubbie> :(
[04:57] <grimboy> How do I everythin to reinstall?
[04:57] <krazykit> jazzido: were you using the dapper rc's?
[04:57] <grimboy> As in all packages?
[04:57] <MrKeuner> snoops/ torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[04:57] <claes> jazzido, Edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:57] <sasa> I'm sad
[04:57] <snoops> ah torrent
[04:58] <grimboy> Help
[04:58] <jazzido> krazykit: no
[04:58] <KenSentMe> I'm using rtorrent to download files to my server. How do i make sure that rtorrent keeps running while i close the ssh connection. Now it seems to stop.
[04:58] <Frogzoo> !tell snoops about torrent
[04:58] <fatalblu> 42k down
[04:58] <fatalblu> yar
[04:58] <robinl1> anyone?
[04:58] <tubbie> Frogzoo, h3sp4wn , same error
[04:58] <NthDegree> gnomefreak:  ipopd is a debian binary, a debian version
[04:58] <void^> KenSentMe: screen
[04:58] <Frogzoo> !tell MrKeuner about torrent
[04:58] <Corey> ?
[04:58] <wickers> I hope everyone who used the torrent method of downloading 6.06 is letting it upload a bit to other users.
[04:58] <fatalblu> KenSentMe screen
[04:58] <snoops> Frogzoo I'm very familar with torrents mate :)
[04:58] <jazzido> claes: already did that. i can try again, but it won't work
[04:58] <Fracture> where can I find out what's on the DVD iso ?
[04:58] <robinl1> *sigh*
[04:58] <Krpano> how can i replace the ubuntu startmenu icon ?
[04:58] <KenSentMe> void^: sorry, what do you mean by that?
[04:58] <Corey> how do I enable opengl on my graphics card ?
[04:58] <Frogzoo> snoops: that's the location m8 - useful for peeps who know what torrents are
[04:58] <fatalblu> bah i don't have that much upload, on dsl mate
[04:58] <NthDegree> gnomefreak: so to a degree they are compatible or that wouldn't be in universe right?
[04:58] <MINK9Y> !tell mink9y about birds&bees
[04:58] <h3sp4wn> tubbie: look in the Makefile and see if it makes any direct reference to gcc
[04:58] <robinl1> ANYONE?
[04:59] <Corey> Frogzoo:  how do I enable opengl on my graphics card ?
[04:59] <void^> KenSentMe: 'screen' is an application. you can let things run and disconnect/reconnect.
[04:59] <Celestar> how can I install windowmaker
[04:59] <snoops> my apologies Frogzoo
[04:59] <fatalblu> sudo apt-get install wmaker
[04:59] <lefty_2nd> i'd repeat the question robin 1 - the screens going by so quick easy to miss questions
[04:59] <Greg2> Frogzoo: tell bot thanks
[04:59] <grimboy> robinl1,  what?
[04:59] <MrObvious> Hi. I heard about a new version of Ubuntu called Dapper Drake I believe. I was wondering, when will it be out and when will I be able to install it and try it out?
[04:59] <spikeb> windowmaker rules :)
[04:59] <robinl1> the VIA DXS things
[04:59] <fatalblu> it's not going that fast, i'm on 800x600 and doing fine
[04:59] <robinl1> what to do with em?
[04:59] <spikeb> MrObvious, it's out, and now :)
[04:59] <keithg> #Ubuntu is in an uproar today.
[04:59] <MINK9Y> today!
[04:59] <MINK9Y> =D
[04:59] <Celestar> spikeb: yes, but "apt-get install windowmaker" fails
[05:00] <robinl1> the sound is very low volume.
[05:00] <babo> So is dapper out then or what ?  ... :-)
[05:00] <Corey> How do I enable 3D acceleration and OpenGl on my graphics card ?
[05:00] <robinl1> .sure is, keithg
[05:00] <Frogzoo> Corey: should be by default? - in /etc/X11/xorg.conf you should see Load "GLcore"
[05:00] <robinl1> this is not normal anymore.
[05:00] <spikeb> Celestar, wmaker, not windowmaker
[05:00] <nalioth_zZz> welcome to the next level
[05:00] <MrObvious> spikeb: Sweet.
[05:00] <fatalblu> MrObvious it's already out, there's a torrent available at ubuntu.com/download (dont pull the isos the servers are thrashed)
[05:00] <Deep1> anyone else having problems with bzip2 exiting when trying to do an apt-get update?
[05:00] <Corey> no i dont :O
[05:00] <Frogzoo> Greg2: yw, enjoy
[05:00] <MrObvious> I might try it :)
[05:00] <tubbie> h3sp4wn, can't find anything related to gcc
[05:00] <grimboy> I'm half breezy half dapper
[05:00] <Celestar> spikeb: E: Package wmaker has no installation candidate <= guess I have to compile meself
[05:00] <fatalblu> lol at least my debmirror of dapper is going at 1.5 meg
[05:00] <snoops> Frogzoo got time to see if you can help me with an issue regarding the installer and grub and dual booting?
[05:00] <spikeb> hmm
[05:00] <spikeb> no
[05:00] <jazzido> claes: so, which file would be confusing update-manager, making it think that there are no upgrades?
[05:00] <grimboy> I need help becoming completely dapper.
[05:01] <spikeb> i just installed it a couple days ago myself
[05:01] <fatalblu> Celestar apt-cache search windowmaker
[05:01] <jazzido> claes: i'm *sure* that's the problem. a file that never got deleted after a failed upgrade
[05:01] <fatalblu> it's definetly in there
[05:01] <Frogzoo> snoops: this is my 1st time dapper upgrade - but if I can help, I'll shout out
[05:01] <Celestar> fatalblu: no
[05:01] <robinl1> the VIA DXS things, what to do with em? i pasted my amixer output because my sound volume was really weird, and then they said something about VIA DXS, and gave me a command, and suddenly it worked, but i lost the command.. please, help me!
[05:01] <claes> jazzido, Could you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:01] <Frogzoo> !tell grimboy about torrent
[05:01] <Corey> Frogzoo: it didnt have that where should I put it ?
[05:01] <Celestar> fatalblu: spikeb: vici@niagara:[/home/vici] > uname -a
[05:01] <Celestar> Linux niagara 2.6.15-23-sparc64-smp #1 SMP Tue May 23 14:15:47 UTC 2006 sparc64 GNU/Linux
[05:01] <NthDegree> grimboy:  clean installs are much better than upgrades - much cleaner :)
[05:01] <Greg2> Frogzoo: will do... see ya later
[05:01] <MINK9Y> sparkly clean
[05:01] <h3sp4wn> tubbie: Why are you not running the version of qemu in the repos ?
[05:01] <Deep1> NthDegree: that sounds way to close to a windows statement
[05:02] <Celestar> I need some window manager ...
[05:02] <Greg2> bye all
[05:02] <Frogzoo> Corey: try this 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[05:02] <spikeb> Celestar, ah, mgiht not be a package made for sparc64
[05:02] <MrObvious> I'll even help seed the torrent :)
[05:02] <snoops> Frogzoo, okay.. may I pm you - I've asked this question a few times in this chan before, and I like to give big explanations and as such since it's so busy, you're likely to miss something
[05:02] <jazzido> claes: sure, sec
[05:02] <Celestar> spikeb: seems not so ...
[05:02] <grimboy> NthDegree, argh, but if I wanted to reinstall every 6 months I'd use windows.
[05:02] <Celestar> spikeb: what'S ubuntus WM of choice?
[05:02] <Corey> says its not insalled frogzoo
[05:02] <MINK9Y> anyone know if I can get ubuntu to format an xbox HDD? running from liveCD...
[05:02] <Frogzoo> snoops: sure, np
[05:02] <spikeb> Celestar, gnome and metacity
[05:02] <keithg> I'm planning on helping seed the torrent for a long time after I get dapper installed.
[05:02] <Corey> frogzoo: says its not installed.
[05:02] <fatalblu> Celestar fwm
[05:02] <robinl1> ARGH EVERYTHING WORKS ON MY NERVES TODAY
[05:02] <NthDegree> grimboy: you don't have to you reinstall once every 18 months :P
[05:02] <lefty_2nd> 2 quick questions about live cd - run as persistant  ok, what partitions would I have to set up on usb drive to get it to work as persistant, and could I use those settings on pc AND mac, or would I need different partitions to run persistant on mac and pc
[05:03] <NthDegree> grimboy: each version is supported for around 18 months i think
[05:03] <dr_willis> MINK9Y:  i though ya had to have your x box modded to even work with non-xbox cd's
[05:03] <mjmac> anyone had any problems upgrading an amd64 box from Breezy -> Dapper?
[05:03] <Celestar> fatalblu: spikeb: conflicting inputs
[05:03] <jazzido> claes: http://rafb.net/paste/results/JvG9HR87.html (ubuntu pastebin seems to be down)
[05:03] <synd`> Does Ubuntu 6.06 LTS support iMac Core Duo's wireless chip OOTB?
[05:03] <fatalblu> Celestar ignore me, i'm just messing with you
[05:03] <KenSentMe> void^: i've done screen rtorrent now and by ps aux i see it is still running while i closed the ssh connection. How do i open the screen of rtorrent now?
[05:03] <Celestar> fatalblu: fvwm2 can'T be found anyway, neither can twm
[05:03] <spikeb> Celestar, you cant even find twm?!
[05:03] <robinl1> please, someone, don't ignore me! someone pm me! this is crazy!
[05:03] <fatalblu> Celestar what are you trying to do?
[05:03] <grimboy> I shouldn't have even upgraded.
[05:03] <eXistenZ> what is the package name for totem-xine engine
[05:03] <mjmac> my amd64 machine hangs after loading the new Dapper kernel.  :/
[05:04] <Fracture> does the desktop iso not contain LVM or RAID support ?
[05:04] <dr_willis> KenSentMe:  time to read some screen tutorials. :P  'screen -r' then ctrl-a #   (0 through 9) for the diff screen sessions
[05:04] <register_> some one know how i can use my back and forth buttons on the mouse in Firefox?
[05:04] <Boglizk> helpz0r pl0x
[05:04] <ketsugi> Whoa
[05:04] <void^> KenSentMe: attach with screen -r. detach with ctrl-a,d
[05:04] <ketsugi> No more hanging out in #ubuntu+1
[05:04] <h3sp4wn> MINK9Y: You have to unlock it but I don't remember how
[05:04] <KenSentMe> dr_willis: void^: thanx
[05:04] <Katu> what the command to open new server in xirc
[05:04] <Boglizk> aw... i copied it, why isn't there anything in paste now? :/
[05:04] <DShepherd> eXistenZ: sudo apt-cache search totem.  it should come up in that list
[05:04] <claes> jazzido, With that sources.list all you have to do is sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude upgrade ; sudo aptitude dist-upgrade and to be at the safe side sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[05:04] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i install the drivers for my lexmark z611 printer
[05:04] <fatalblu> i bet if i logged off irc i'd free up half a meg of bandwidth, jebus
[05:04] <DShepherd> ketsugi: yup
[05:05] <Boglizk> anyway, i cant download the new update-manager, its say "404"
[05:05] <Celestar> spikeb: nope, but I can find metacity
[05:05] <spikeb> HEH
[05:05] <sduffy> exit
[05:05] <Celestar> fatalblu: getting into some kind of administration tool
[05:05] <spikeb> Celestar, i'm glad my arch is more supported:)
[05:05] <h3sp4wn> MINK9Y: I think I connected it to the xbox and then swapped the cable over to the pc (but it was ages ago when I last did it)
[05:05] <Katu> what the commad to open new server in xirc
[05:05] <Deep6> claes: which sources.list?
[05:05] <synd`> Does Ubuntu 6.06 LTS support iMac Core Duo's wireless chip OOTB?
[05:05] <jazzido> claes: dist-upgrade AFTER upgrade?
[05:05] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i install the drivers for my lexmark z611 printer
[05:06] <claes> Deep6, The one his pasted.
[05:06] <Corey> frogzoo: none of my games are running properly and I open cedega and do a system test and it says opengl direct rendering failed and 3D acceleration failed
[05:06] <Hobbsee> !tell synd` about wireless
[05:06] <claes> jazzido, I always do that.
[05:06] <Celestar> spikeb: fatalblu: so some kind of System=>Administration :P
[05:06] <kimo> can I do 'rpm2cpio' on dapper ?
[05:06] <ubuntuNewbee> KenSentMe, lord_rob: these are the facts: I downloaded Desktop CD and booted from it. The menu showed and there it was the Start/Install Ubuntu. I clicked on it hopping that the installer would ask me what on earth I want: Start for trying, or Install Complete, all in graphical. But nothing of what I would have liked happened. It just started to load and load... It loaded the tryout version...
[05:06] <ubuntuNewbee> ...of Ubuntu (LiveCD). I launched the install from there, but it took like 5 minutes just to show the first Installer Window. That's unacceptable. Fedora Core 5 installed in 20 minutes and Ubuntu could take forever to install that way. I tried to install it on 2 machines with 256MB of RAM. Text based install is not an option if we want to show Ubuntu to the others. SEE? I hope I was clear now
[05:06] <fatalblu> oh god!
[05:06] <ketsugi> So sad.
[05:06] <Deep6> claes: can you send it to me, I'm having difficulties with bzip2 dying with my sources.list
[05:06] <dr_willis> the_mr_bong_show:  you may want to check the cups.org site to see if that printer is even supported first.
[05:06] <DShepherd> !tell Deep6 about sources
[05:06] <kspath> kimo: apt-cache search keyword
[05:06] <Corey>  frogzoo: none of my games are running properly and I open cedega and do a system test and it says opengl direct rendering failed and 3D acceleration failed
[05:06] <Ng> ubuntuNewbee: there's an alternative install image that does a text mode install
[05:06] <michaels> to make xorg.conf go into effect all I have to do is log off and then on, right?
[05:06] <Deep6> DShepherd: hrmm... I have that one and I'm still getting failures....
[05:06] <Celestar> spikeb: fatalblu for example to set up NIS, the 4 NICs and stuff like that
[05:07] <claes> Deep6, Ask jazzido about it it was he who posted it.
[05:07] <ubuntuNewbee> Ng> read my text
[05:07] <Corey>  frogzoo: none of my games are running properly and I open cedega and do a system test and it says opengl direct rendering failed and 3D acceleration failed
[05:07] <fatalblu> Corey there should be a list of modules in your xorg.conf file, add one for 'glx'
[05:07] <Ng> ubuntuNewbee: the new default one is aimed at more modern desktop machines really and lets people try it out before they install
[05:07] <Ng> ubuntuNewbee: I just did
[05:07] <KenSentMe> ubuntuNewbee: no, you don't have to use a live cd, just download the iso of the install cd
[05:07] <Fracture> does the desktop iso not contain LVM or RAID support ?
[05:07] <DShepherd> Deep6: past your error in the pastebin
[05:07] <claes> jazzido, J hope you will get it to work for you. I have to leave.
[05:07] <DShepherd> Deep6: paste*
[05:07] <WarOfAttrition> so there will not be Ubuntu 6.10 ??
[05:07] <KenSentMe> Ng: he only needs to download the install cd and not the live cd
[05:07] <Corey> 	Load	"glx"
[05:07] <jazzido> claes: hangon a sec. aptitude upgrade is going to upgrade JUST ONE package
[05:07] <gnomefreak> WarOfAttrition: in oct there will be
[05:07] <DShepherd> ubuntuNewbee: its called alternative
[05:07] <jazzido> claes,: is that normal?
[05:07] <nathansnook> Is there a place that explains what need to be installed to compile packages
[05:07] <shriphani> guys if i use the terminal for dist upgrade will gnome etc. not load ?
[05:07] <Corey> thats already in there but it aint working
[05:07] <dunnix> any one else having sound issues on they're laptop after ugrading?
[05:07] <fatalblu> WarOfAttrition should be etch
[05:08] <ubuntuNewbee> KenSentMe: text based is not an option to show it to others
[05:08] <jonah> hi guys, i have wastebasket items i can't delete! can anyone help me please?
[05:08] <DShepherd> shriphani: it should
[05:08] <michaels> what do I do to make xorg.conf take effect?
[05:08] <Corey> I have an older version ati card do i use the ati driver or the flgrx one
[05:08] <gnomefreak> fatalblu: edgy eft
[05:08] <adam`> i just installed ubuntu and felt a sudden urge to fellate my brother, is this normal?
[05:08] <ubuntuNewbee> sorry
[05:08] <shriphani> ok thanks upgrading now
[05:08] <KenSentMe> ubuntuNewbee: it's not text based
[05:08] <fatalblu> eh same diff -v
[05:08] <Resat> Trk VArm
[05:08] <claes> jazzido, Sometimes. Just go on. Say yes and move on.
[05:08] <Ng> KenSentMe: that's not really how dapper CDs are arranged - there is no separate live cd anymore, there's a desktop installer CD, which is a live cd that can also install. there's also an alternative CD that offers more advanced install modes and is text based
[05:08] <ubuntuNewbee> NOt?
[05:08] <Deep6> DShepherd: http://pastebin.ca/60651
[05:08] <KenSentMe> Ng: ah ok
[05:08] <jazzido> claes: ok, thanks for the help, man. much appreciated!
[05:08] <register_> some one know how i can use my back and forth buttons on the mouse in Firefox?
[05:08] <ubuntuNewbee> SO
[05:08] <jdkycdoc> hi all, i would be very grateful if someone could help me with this: ia m ready to upgrade from breezy to dapper, just changed 'breezy' to 'dapper' everywhere in my sources list, but I have a last minute doubt: i have the british repositories and i wonder if they certainly have the final version, do you know?
[05:08] <kspath> adam`: It will be normal for you to get banned from irc channels with your trolling issues.
[05:08] <KenSentMe> Ng: sorry, i didn't know that
[05:09] <chapium> register_: that is one battle I have yet to win
[05:09] <adam`> what?
[05:09] <shriphani> do i log in as root to update from terminal ?
[05:09] <gnomefreak> jdkycdoc: yes they do
[05:09] <krazykit> jdkycdoc: by now they should.
[05:09] <h3sp4wn> jdkycdoc: They do
[05:09] <Fracture> Ng: does the desktop ISO have LVM support ?
[05:09] <akaihola> Any update on the status of the dapper desktop .jigdo file?
[05:09] <krazykit> shriphani: no, use sudo
[05:09] <KenSentMe> ubuntuNewbee: sorry, i misunderstood
[05:09] <Celestar> ok
[05:09] <Fracture> Ng: or just the alternative one ?
[05:09] <michaels> what do I do to make xorg.conf take effect?
[05:09] <Celestar> nice stuff
[05:09] <ubuntuNewbee> Ng: Have you read what I've said about FC 5
[05:09] <ubuntuNewbee> ?
[05:09] <shriphani> ok thanks
[05:09] <jdkycdoc> gnomefreak, krazykit h3sp4wn: thanks a lot you all
[05:09] <Celestar> now I needa set up XDMCP
[05:09] <register_> chapium, ok :) dont know of any howtos or any thing?
[05:09] <Ng> Fracture: I believe it does, yes
[05:09] <grimboy> How do I reinstall all the packages I have?
[05:09] <krazykit> michaels: save the file and restart the xserver
[05:09] <Kronoz> michaels, restart the xserver. ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:09] <jacquesmerde> who's the varment who got me to rm -rf my home directory?
[05:09] <Resat> helpme pls my linux console not internet conn.
[05:09] <ubuntuNewbee> It installs right away
[05:09] <Fracture> Ng: is there a page anywhere that explains what's in the different images ?
[05:09] <KenSentMe> Ng: it's indeed strange that it takes much longer to install than it used to be
[05:09] <michaels> thanks Kronoz krazykit
[05:09] <jdkycdoc> has any of you done the same upgrade?
[05:09] <Ng> ubuntuNewbee: yes, did you read what I replied with? Grab the alternate install image and you will be able to do an install in under half an hour on a reasonably capable machine
[05:10] <Resat> helpme pls my linux console not internet conn.
[05:10] <Resat> helpme pls my linux console not internet conn.
[05:10] <Resat> helpme pls my linux console not internet conn.
[05:10] <Resat> helpme pls my linux console not internet conn.
[05:10] <kspath> Resat: bye
[05:10] <krazykit> Resat: don't spam the channel like that.
[05:10] <gnomefreak> Resat: stop spamming
[05:10] <fatalblu> Resat: chill and use all the letters in the words
[05:10] <Resat> ok
[05:10] <Ng> KenSentMe: it doesn't really take much longer, but one issue is the fonts packages I believe - they regenerate things after each of them is installed
[05:10] <adam`> kspath stop trolling
[05:10] <Frogzoo> !tell snoops about fixgrub
[05:10] <Celestar> spikeb: but you can'T show off having 32 CPUs, can you :P
[05:10] <Kronoz> Resat, explain ...
[05:10] <grimboy> !doesn't work
[05:10] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[05:10] <MrObvious> 32 CPUs?
[05:10] <adam`> you're scaring away the new comers
[05:10] <spikeb> Celestar, nope
[05:10] <spikeb> heh
[05:10] <Deep6> DShepherd: what do you make of that?
[05:10] <krazykit> Resat: plus, if you want help, you need to ask a question that we can actually undertand.
[05:10] <Resat> privite pls help
[05:10] <MrObvious> Holy crap lol spike.
[05:11] <grimboy> !tell Resat about doesn't work
[05:11] <Frogzoo> !tell snoops about reinstallgrub
[05:11] <KenSentMe> Ng: i haven't tried the new installer yet. Downloaded dapper in beta
[05:11] <ubuntuNewbee> Ng: thanks for your reply, but as I said, I can't do that with people who want an easy install
[05:11] <Boglizk> I cant download the new update-manager
[05:11] <anthony> !wireless
[05:11] <ubotu> wireless is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[05:11] <Frogzoo> !tell snoops about recovergrub
[05:11] <Ng> ubuntuNewbee: the text installer is easy
[05:11] <DShepherd> Deep6: i am not sure why that is happening. Do you mind pasting your sourcelist too?
[05:11] <christo_> if I install the kernel-source package, where will the sources be installed?
[05:11] <Celestar> spikeb: see? :P
[05:11] <the_mr_bong_show> how do i install my drivers for my printer
[05:11] <anthony> !fonts
[05:11] <ubotu> fonts is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[05:11] <Celestar> ubotu: XDMCP
[05:11] <ubotu> Celestar: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:11] <kbrosnan> ubotu, tell register_ about mouse
[05:11] <h3sp4wn> christo: /usr/src/linux-source-x.tar.b2z
[05:11] <Deep6> DShepherd: it's the one I just swiped from that thing you ubotu'd to me
[05:11] <ubuntuNewbee> Ng: What is so hard to understand?
[05:11] <adam`> how do i installed grub
[05:11] <Corey> CAN SOMEBODY HELP ME PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!
[05:11] <Kronoz> !tell the_mr_bong_show about cups
[05:11] <grimboy> Corey, I know the feeling.
[05:12] <gnomefreak> Boglizk: maybe because you rither need to run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or you already have it installed
[05:12] <krazykit> sweetnjguy29: don't use firefox as a download manager.  open a terminal and use wget
[05:12] <Kronoz> !cups
[05:12] <ubotu> from memory, cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[05:12] <gnomefreak> Corey: drop the caps please
[05:12] <Borney> hi :)
[05:12] <Corey> gnomefreak: help me then !
[05:12] <Boglizk> gnomefreak, no, its says 404
[05:12] <Boglizk> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/update-manager/update-manager_0.42.2ubuntu12~breezy1_all.deb
[05:12] <Boglizk>   404 Not Found [IP: 85.133.25.7 80] 
[05:12] <DShepherd> Deep6: oh.. i am clueless then. are you on dapper or breezy?
[05:12] <register_> kbrosnan,  thx :)
[05:12] <ubuntuNewbee> FC5 install Graphical -> 20 minutes, Ubuntu graphical install forever on the same machine
[05:12] <ramza3__> so I have ubuntu beta.  Does that mean my system is up to date?
[05:12] <Kronoz> Corey, whats you problem?
[05:12] <gnomefreak> Boglizk: what does uname -r say?
[05:12] <DShepherd> ramza3__: no
[05:12] <KenSentMe> ubuntuNewbee: it's a text install, but that doesn't mean it's hard. You don't have to do things manually, it just doesn;t look that fancy etc.
[05:12] <WarOfAttrition> 6.10 will be called etch??
[05:12] <Deep6> DShepherd: dapper beta...
[05:12] <Ng> ubuntuNewbee: I'm just telling you how it is, if you don't like it there's really not much I can do about it. Either give them the desktop installer and they can try ubuntu out and use the graphical installer, or give them the alternate one if they have a low RAM/CPU machine
[05:12] <gnomefreak> WarOfAttrition: no edgy eft
[05:12] <Ng> ubuntuNewbee: what's so difficult to install about that to understand?
[05:12] <ramza3__> DShepherd, with all of the updates
[05:12] <Corey> Kronoz: I dont know last week i was playing my games perfectly fine and then i use it now and they are getting 1fps
[05:12] <ramza3__> ?
[05:12] <adam`> ubotu: forget cups
[05:12] <ubotu> i forgot cups, adam`
[05:12] <adam`> lool
[05:13] <Boglizk> gnomefreak, 2.6.12-10-386
[05:13] <jazzido> ubuntuNewbee,: prolly a DMA issue. I had it
[05:13] <Kronoz> WarOfAttrition, no, edgy eft
[05:13] <jra> sweetnjguy29: you are not really dl'ing an iso with firefox, right?
[05:13] <krazykit> Corey: check to see if direct rendering is working.
[05:13] <Ng> ubuntuNewbee: I installed a p4 with 512mb of ram in way under an hour with the graphical ubuntu installer this morning
[05:13] <Kronoz> Corey, reinstall nvidia/ati drivers
[05:13] <DShepherd> ramza3__: cat /etc/issue. it should tell you your current version
[05:13] <Corey> Kronoz: how do i do that
[05:13] <Corey> krazykit: how do i do that
[05:13] <WarOfAttrition> edgy eh? that sounds like unstable
[05:13] <kspath> !gnomefreak++
[05:13] <Borney> sorry, but how does XGL work at the moment ?
[05:13] <Frogzoo> Corey: which game? do you have trilinear enabled?
[05:13] <SS2> WarOfAttrition: it is unstable
[05:13] <Kronoz> Corey, terminal -> glxgears -printfps what does that say?
[05:13] <ubuntuNewbee> Ng: OR give them Desktop CD and the option to install it without a try
[05:13] <SS2> the next release
[05:13] <ubuntuNewbee> is that so hard to do?
[05:13] <siimz> hi im trying to install ubuntu on my pc and television using my radeon 8500 svideo output, and the refresh rate of the default install is over 60hz which wont display on my television, does anyone know a way around this?
[05:13] <DShepherd> Deep6: sorry.. i dont know how to fix your problem
[05:13] <Kronoz> Corey, what card do you have?
[05:14] <Cas> !tell Borney about xgl
[05:14] <krazykit> Corey: depends on the card.  check the wiki for a howto for your card
[05:14] <scorpion007> Hi all, I just installed ubuntu dapper, and I seem to have a problem booting it. The LILO boot loader was installed and I don't have a menu for dual boot or a prompt to pass in some options to be able to boot into ubuntu successfully...what should I do?
[05:14] <ramza3__> DShepherd: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[05:14] <Celestar> gah
[05:14] <Pelo> morning folks
[05:14] <Celestar> E: Package gnome has no installation candidate
[05:14] <Frogzoo> scorpion007: boot a live cd & reinstall lilo/grub
[05:14] <Celestar> E: Package kde has no installation candidate
[05:14] <Corey> guys look
[05:14] <Corey> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:14] <Corey> 631 frames in 5.3 seconds = 119.822 FPS
[05:14] <Corey> 682 frames in 5.3 seconds = 128.902 FPS
[05:14] <Corey> 684 frames in 5.3 seconds = 130.023 FP
[05:14] <DShepherd> ramza3__: your update todate then
[05:14] <Ng> ubuntuNewbee: I'm not familiar with the internals of how the disc works, so i can't answer that, but even if I could it's irrelevant because it was released today and won't be updated until the next release. If you would like to participate in that, please go to launchpad.net and write a spec/wishlist about it
[05:14] <jonah> hello can anyone help. i can't remove some items from my wastebin!
[05:14] <Celestar> I need some window manager ...
[05:14] <Kronoz> !tell Corey about nvidia
[05:14] <Frogzoo> Corey: spam!!
[05:14] <DShepherd> ramza3__: up to date*
[05:14] <gnomefreak> Corey: stop pasting
[05:14] <fatalblu> Pelo: morning, hope you like and insane amount of scrolling with your irssi, coffee, and biscuits
[05:14] <Ng> ubuntuNewbee: this is a support channel, not a place to rant about things you don't like. sorry.
[05:14] <Corey> Frogzoo: its sayings its missing something
[05:14] <fatalblu> *an
[05:15] <Pelo> can anyone direct me to the hardware requirement url for ubuntu 6.06 ?
[05:15] <Kronoz> !tell Corey about paste
[05:15] <DShepherd> Celestar: sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[05:15] <tubbie> how do I untar soemthing in /?
[05:15] <Corey> I know i was lazy sorry i have an ati card !
[05:15] <visik7> Pelo: tell me your hardware
[05:15] <DShepherd> Celestar: that will install kde for you
[05:15] <Kronoz> Corey, what card do you have, pastebin lspci
[05:15] <Cas> !tell Ng about offtopic
[05:15] <Corey> its onboard
[05:15] <Corey> shared
[05:15] <Frogzoo> Corey: yep - dri - & without dri enabled, fps will suk
[05:15] <fatalblu> tubbie: untar -xvvf filename.tar
[05:15] <Frogzoo> !dri
[05:15] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Frogzoo
[05:15] <Pelo> fatalblu  I use to do support in #azureus-support , I'm use to it
[05:15] <jacquesmerde> ok, i just deleted my home directory, recreated it, copied /etc/skel there, and chowned it to myself...anything else i've forgotten?
[05:15] <Corey> Frogzoo: how do i change ?
[05:15] <jdkycdoc> gnomefreak, krazykit h3sp4wn: sorry to bother but does 683 packages and just 239MB for download (including kde stuff) seem right?
[05:15] <Celestar> DShepherd:
[05:15] <fatalblu> jacquesmerde: nope sounds good
[05:16] <gnomefreak> jdkycdoc: yes
[05:16] <krazykit> jdkycdoc: yeah, sounds about right
[05:16] <Boglizk> gnomefreak, uname -r says: 2.6.12-10-386
[05:16] <DShepherd> Celestar: yes?
[05:16] <Pelo> visik7 , I'm considering buying a used box to try my hand at linux,   45$   p2 ,  128 mB ram , 4gig hdd
[05:16] <scorpion007> Frogzoo: what do you mean reinstall? I tried reinstalling the whole ubuntu distro with boot loader twice and same result. It just tries to load (and fails) ubuntu after a few seconds... :( I also tried using the install CD in recovery mode but wasn't sure what to do...
[05:16] <roggan> i cannot update my 5.10 ubuntu with my update manager (my system seems to be up-to-date),  is ti beacause there's to many connections mayby ?
[05:16] <MrKeuner> does dapper-dvd include dapper-alternate?
[05:16] <krazykit> Pelo: xubuntu :-D
[05:16] <Celestar> DShepherd: that's a crapload of packages :)
[05:16] <Frogzoo> Corey: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf in Modules you need Load "dri"
[05:16] <michaels> logging out and then in also restarts the xserver, right?
[05:16] <jacquesmerde> fatalblu: i asked the question before here. i got the /etc/skel tip, but noone told me about the chown. took me a while to figure out what was wrong
[05:16] <eXistenZ> I Installed totem-xine and w32codecs, but totem still doesn't play mp3 files, what do I have to do as well?
[05:16] <Frogzoo> scorpion007: I mean reinstall lilo or grub
[05:16] <Corey> Frogzoo: it already has it !
[05:16] <tanek> roggan: did u do sudo update-manager -d?
[05:16] <krazykit> Pelo: should run better on the smaller amount of RAM, since the desktop is lighter than gnome and kde
[05:17] <DShepherd> Celestar: i wouldnt use those words to describe it.. but yeah.. something like that
[05:17] <jdkycdoc> gnomefreak, krazykit: thanks --here we go
[05:17] <jacquesmerde> fatalblu: i was freaking out for half an hour, unable to log in anywhere but at a vc
[05:17] <MrObvious> Yay 50 hours to download the ISO for 6.06
[05:17] <fatalblu> jacquesmerde: just make sure you chowned it with the -R tag
[05:17] <MrObvious> :|
[05:17] <the_mr_bong_show> i cant find my printer on http://linuxprinting.org/ is there a way i can get it to work even tho
[05:17] <DShepherd> Celestar: that's the way to get kde on ubuntu though
[05:17] <Corey> Frogzoo: This is part of the error. Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:17] <lefty_2nd> COud someone who has used live cds on more than one platform (pc, mac) tell me what partitions I might need to use same usb drive on both, and swap files
[05:17] <roggan> yes
[05:17] <Frogzoo> Corey: glxinfo |grep direct
[05:17] <ubuntuNewbee> Ng: sorry for not understanding what I say. I want all the best to Ubuntu. And I will install it on MY PC which has 1GB RAM. But as far as the major distributions have the ability to install directly AND grap
[05:17] <ubuntuNewbee> hical, Ubuntu will be hampered.
[05:17] <Corey> Frogzoo: what do i do with that ?
[05:17] <void^> ubuntuNewbee: i just booted the desktop install cd on another pc with a less crappy dvd drive; no performance issues there. i think it's fine on anything 500mhz or more and 256mb ram or more.
[05:17] <sweetnjguy29> Bog:  Now at 150kbs
[05:17] <Celestar> DShepherd: lets see what happens :)
[05:17] <Beforewisdom> Hi.  I am trying to upgrade to dapper from breezy.  I replaced "breezy" with "dapper" in my sources.list, ran the update manager, and got all sorts of 404s.  Is there anywhere I can get a clean sources.list for upgrading to dapper?
[05:17] <Hobbsee> wow!  we've got more people than #gentoo do!
[05:17] <DShepherd> Celestar: ok
[05:17] <roggan> tanek : yes
[05:17] <scorpion007> Frogzoo: as part of the system reinstall, the boot loader (LILO) was also reinstalled. It did not improve my situation. Breezy install went a lot smoother with GRUB...I don't have a choice of boot loader here.. :(
[05:17] <dunnix> i did an ugrade    do you think a clean install is that much better?
[05:17] <Celestar> I wish I had a faster system HDD :)
[05:18] <MrObvious> 76 hours for the ISO now :|
[05:18] <jazzido> !tell Beforewisdom about sources
[05:18] <Celestar> MrObvious: using torrent?
[05:18] <fatalblu> Hobbsee: that's cause gentoo users need support!
[05:18] <Corey> Frogzoo: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:18] <Corey> direct rendering: No
[05:18] <Corey> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:18] <fatalblu> ;-)
[05:18] <MrObvious> Celestar: Yes.
[05:18] <Hobbsee> fatalblu: hehe
[05:18] <carthik> Pelo, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/i386/ch02.html
[05:18] <Pelo> krazykit  thanks but back to my original question,  is there a system requirement page for ubuntu 6.06 &
[05:18] <Pelo> ?
[05:18] <DShepherd> fatalblu: hehehe
[05:18] <MrObvious> Oh I know. I need to forward some ports
[05:18] <FunnyLookinHat> MrObvious, use torrents
[05:18] <jacquesmerde> fatalblu: a what tag? i just did "sudo chown username /home/username"
[05:18] <FunnyLookinHat> ooh
[05:18] <Celestar> MrObvious: ok let me restart seeding ...
[05:18] <FunnyLookinHat> that's weird
[05:18] <Pelo> thanks carthik
[05:18] <tanek> roggan: then change all instances of "breezy" to "dapper" in /etc/apt/sources.list and do sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:18] <MrObvious> Celestar: I think I need to forward a few ports.
[05:18] <FunnyLookinHat> I've got mine set to seed for the next week
[05:18] <kilotango> are there hashes available for cd/dvd isos to check downloads with?
[05:18] <Frogzoo> scorpion007: will grub do just as well?
[05:18] <fatalblu> jacquesmerde: sudo chown username:username /home/username -R
[05:18] <the_mr_bong_show> i cant find my printer on http://linuxprinting.org/ is there a way i can get it to work even th
[05:18] <bbrazil> kilotango: yes, they're in the same directory
[05:19] <Pelo> thanks guys,  have a good one
[05:19] <ubuntuNewbee> void^: maybe I have to crappy CD-ROMs
[05:19] <kilotango> even for torrents?
[05:19] <sweetnjguy29> question:  is lilo the default boot manager now on the live install cd?  I am doing a dual boot and need grub
[05:19] <carthik> kilotango, look at the message for the channel, that page has the isos and urls
[05:19] <Mahmoud85> Hello, can someone help fix this error: http://pastebin.com/751480
[05:19] <scorpion007> Frogzoo, I don't have an option to install GRUB at all...only LILO is there. Maybe because I am installing to LVM?
[05:19] <Frogzoo> sweetnjguy29: nope -grub
[05:19] <bbrazil> kilotango: torrents are just another way of getting ISOs
[05:19] <fatalblu> jacquesmerde: makes sure the group is set correctly as well and more importantly it recurses through the directories and gets ALL the files not just /home/username
[05:19] <ubuntuNewbee> void^: 2 crappy CD-ROMs
[05:19] <cavediver> What do I need to do in order for my firewall-script to run at boot ? I have created the script in /etc/init.d with start and stop stuff
[05:19] <kilotango> carthik, bbrazil, cheers
[05:19] <Grout58> what command in apt-get will upgrad me to dapper?
[05:19] <Frogzoo> scorpion007: yup, that would do it
[05:19] <MrKeuner> does dapper-dvd include dapper-alternate?
[05:19] <Corey> Frogzoo:???
[05:19] <jacquesmerde> fatalblu: isnt the group part reundant? and i've forgotten the -R, but still created subsubsubdirectories, etc...
[05:20] <sweetnjguy29> frog: thanks, scorpion had me going there for a second
[05:20] <Hobbsee> Mahmoud85: not enough info - add the stuff before it to your pastebin
[05:20] <Beforewisdom> I tried apt-get update and got about as many unfound urls
[05:20] <carthik> MrKeuner, what is alternate?
[05:20] <jonah> i've tried mplayer, totem, xine, gxine, and also i wanted to make dvds with qdvdauthor. but most players and dvd maker don't seem to play or edit much. i've got the open source avi of elephants dream which i want to burn to dvd and it doesn't even recognise it
[05:20] <MrObvious> Celestar: There it's better.
[05:20] <Frogzoo> Grout58: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:20] <ramza3__> Grout58, apt-get uprade distro or someting
[05:20] <Beforewisdom> is there a place to get a clean sources.list?
[05:20] <scorpion007> Frogzoo: so is there any way for me to enable a menu or prompt? I tried to edit the lilo.conf file but it didn't do anything
[05:20] <mwe> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:20] <MrKeuner> carthik/ what you need in order to upgrade from breezy to dapper
[05:20] <MrObvious> About 60 KB/s now :). Using the torrent as suggested, and I'm uploading about 50KB/s
[05:20] <fatalblu> jacquesmerde: probably, if you aren't using group permissions anywhere then it shouldn't matter
[05:20] <Celestar> MrObvious: :)
[05:20] <void^> ubuntuNewbee: i don't know what your particular problem is (if there is one). i just made the experience that sometimes certain cd readers don't like certain brands of cdrs or cdrws. this drive in particular doesn't like any cdrws (constant spinups/downs).
[05:20] <krazykit> scorpion007: if you edit lilo.conf, you need to rerun lilo
[05:20] <bbrazil> scorpion007: aftering altering lilo.conf, you need to run 'lilo'
[05:20] <jacquesmerde> fatalblu: but i'll do your chown instead. do i have to unchown my original chown first?
[05:20] <carthik> MrKeuner, oh. In that case, no, the dvds cant have the entire repo on them.
[05:21] <scorpion007> krazykit: I did that but it just spits out errors about /proc/devices not being present... :(
[05:21] <fatalblu> jacquesmerde: nah you can just run mine as it
[05:21] <Frogzoo> scorpion007: lilo can be a pain - I'd try tldp.org for a lilo faq
[05:21] <krazykit> scorpion007: as root/sudo?
[05:21] <lefty_2nd> lol way things are going, even with lag on forums, might find answer quicker.  4 those who missed it, any one with exp of using a live cd and usb drive to store settings, what partitions might I need to use same drive on mac and pc to show Ubuntu to work.
[05:21] <The_Machine> question:  after doing an apt-get dist-upgrade, will it give all the new gnome desktop wallpapers and everything, as if i did a CD installation?
[05:21] <jacquesmerde> fatalblu: done! thanks alot!
[05:21] <fatalblu> ubuntuNewbee: you should get the 100000 5.25 floppy edition ;-)
[05:21] <fatalblu> jacquesmerder: np :-p
[05:21] <ubuntuNewbee> void^: thanks
[05:21] <scorpion007> krazykit: I booted using the install CD and entered recovery mode which mounted my root partition
[05:21] <Beforewisdom> Isn't it wrong to run apt-get dist upgrade if apt-get update isn't successful?
[05:22] <carthik> Beforewisdom, yeah, sort of.
[05:22] <krazykit> Beforewisdom: yes, it's wrong.
[05:22] <bbrazil> Beforewisdom: debatable
[05:22] <The_Machine> lol
[05:22] <ubuntuNewbee> fatalblu: I wish it would be funny
[05:22] <Hobbsee> Beforewisdom: yes...if hte update didnt finish, there's no point trying to upgrade
[05:22] <fatalblu> Beforewisdom: it probably just won't do anything except complain a whole heck of alot
[05:22] <ramza3__> Frogzoo: hmm, I did the dist-upgrade and it downloaded something then quit.  Still looks like breezy
[05:22] <Frogzoo> Beforewisdom: doesn't sound really a good idea, no
[05:22] <Mahmoud85> Hobbsee: Done http://pastebin.com/751490
[05:22] <Beforewisdom> Okay, how can I get a clean sources.list to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[05:22] <krazykit> scorpion007: well, i'm not familiar with lilo... i perfer grub, myself.  sorry :-/
[05:22] <Frogzoo> ramza3__: you need to swap breezy/dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:22] <yatsura> lo all, anybody available to answer a WiFi setup question on 5.10?
[05:22] <fatalblu> for a fashionable user experience, try slackware!
[05:22] <Hobbsee> !tell Beforewisdom about repos
[05:22] <Zoroaster> I am about tobuild a little lowend server for a small remote location, all I need is samba to run on it, does intel or amd work better with Ubuntu
[05:22] <DShepherd> ramza3__: try gksudo update-manager -d
[05:23] <dewitt> newbee with/? do you have to remove ubuntu to install kubuntu
[05:23] <Beforewisdom> Hobbsee the robot isn't telling me anything
[05:23] <Beforewisdom> oh wait
[05:23] <scorpion007> krazykit: I loved GRUB when I had breezy, but it seems since I installed dapper on lvm I didn't get the choice of using it..
[05:23] <Frogzoo> Zoroaster: for samba - will make little difference
[05:23] <eXistenZ> I Installed totem-xine and w32codecs, but totem still doesn't play mp3 files, what do I have to do as well?
[05:23] <JacksonBrown> I just couldn't wait last night and installed the release canidate of 6.06, will running the Ubuntu update get me to the same point as the final?
[05:23] <Zoroaster> Frogzoo, I mean for Ubuntu
[05:23] <WarOfAttrition> is not lilo better than grub?
[05:23] <BitNinja707> where can i find the new instructions on installing the Flash player for Dapper?
[05:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell eXistenZ -about mp3
[05:23] <Hobbsee> Beforewisdom: it should be
[05:23] <Frogzoo> Zoroaster: I have an amd bias
[05:24] <krazykit> eXistenZ: xine-extracodecs i think is the package you want.
[05:24] <jacquesmerde> ooh, i have a major newbie question. for some stupid reason i change the background colour to the login window. how do i set back to default? i mean, where is the conf file?
[05:24] <JacksonBrown> lol
[05:24] <christo_> I'm installing the cisco vpn client - it seems to need a correctly configured source tree for my build - If I just install the kernel-source package, it'll be a different kernel version to what I have and configured differently.. how can I resolve this?
[05:24] <FunnyLookinHat> ubotu, tell BitNinja707 about RestrictedFormats
[05:24] <JacksonBrown> this is chaos
[05:24] <angel> hola
[05:24] <eXistenZ> !ati
[05:24] <ubotu> from memory, ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[05:24] <scorpion007> I wouldn't have a problem with lilo, but I really need to put the acpi=off option, otherwise my pc just restarts when trying to boot
[05:24] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: we are now the largest channel on freenode from what i heard
[05:24] <mwe> JacksonBrown: gksudo gdmsetup
[05:24] <xet7> Hi, why in Ubuntu Dapper final autologin stops working after nvidia-glx-legacy and other updates? How to get autologin working again?
[05:24] <Hobbsee> Mahmoud85: you should not use unoffcial repos.  you'll have to remove gstreamer0.8-misc, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:24] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: yeah, wow :P
[05:24] <Frogzoo> JacksonBrown: enjoy :D
[05:24] <Seantater_> for upgrading from flight6 to release -- is dist-upgrade or upgrade better?
[05:24] <Celestar> why does the X installer prompt me for resolutions :P
[05:24] <Hobbsee> !tell Mahmoud85 about repos
[05:24] <Celestar> there is no graphics cartd
[05:25] <bbrazil> Seantater_: dist
[05:25] <Celestar> -t
[05:25] <fatalblu> christ_: sudo apt-get install kernel-source-`uname -a`
[05:25] <Seantater_> bbrazil: okay -- thanks
[05:25] <saxin> BitNinja707, take a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:25] <Beforewisdom> thanks fatalblu!
[05:25] <gnomefreak> brb
[05:25] <Celestar> fatalblu: not -r?
[05:25] <mwe> Celestar: because it needs to know which resolutions to configure
[05:25] <WarOfAttrition> you can see a screen and there is no graphics card???
[05:25] <bbrazil> Seantater_: for any major upgrade, use dist
[05:25] <Celestar> mwe: seems so
[05:25] <eXistenZ> krazykit, I couldn't find that package in plf
[05:25] <Seantater_> bbrazil: okay -- I'll keep that in mind
[05:26] <Hobbsee> eXistenZ: you should not use plf.
[05:26] <intero> hi
[05:26] <toran> hey guys, my dapper upgrade went awry- gconf2 seems to be broken, and without it I can't do anything. I've tried removing and reinstalling it to no avail.
[05:26] <eXistenZ> Hobbsee, why?
[05:26] <Celestar> WarOfAttrition: I have 4 Gigabit NICs, 1 100 MBps management NIC, 1 RS-232 port with 9600bps. why do I need a graphics card?
[05:26] <toran> Can someone PLEASE help?
[05:26] <tristanmike> eXistenZ, they are unnoffical, and thus unsupported and thus can break your system
[05:26] <Hobbsee> eXistenZ: because they break your system.  see Mahmoud85's problem.
[05:26] <NoUse> toran try running 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[05:26] <toran> It won't work.
[05:26] <Hobbsee> tristanmike: not can.  do.
[05:26] <DShepherd> xet7: try system, administatrion - Login Window - Security
[05:26] <WarOfAttrition> Celestar|  without a graphics card you wouldn't see any display
[05:26] <NoUse> toran specifics?
[05:26] <toran> moment
[05:26] <Celestar> WarOfAttrition: there is no display ..
[05:26] <tristanmike> Hobbsee, I didn't want to seem too bleak :P
[05:27] <Celestar> WarOfAttrition: there are network cables.
[05:27] <UltraMagnus> is this the correct place to talk about the live cd?
[05:27] <tristanmike> Hobbsee, not automatix bleak :P
[05:27] <jdkycdoc> gnomefreak, krazykit: hi again, just tried dist-upgrade and it says it will upgrade 1211 packages and need to get 739MB of archives, contrary to the 186 that the update manager preciously stated. any comment --please!
[05:27] <Hobbsee> tristanmike: both do, really :P
[05:27] <krazykit> eXistenZ: libxine-extracodecs is in multiverse
[05:27] <WarOfAttrition> Celestar|  then just let it do what it wants at setup, I dont think it matters
[05:27] <TheMadman> people had a lot of success running ATI drivers?
[05:27] <h3sp4wn> Celestar: you don't need a graphics card use netboot/mini.iso and a serial console
[05:27] <gnomefreak> jdkycdoc: nope just runt hem ;)
[05:27] <tristanmike> Hobbsee, bleak it is :)
[05:27] <jdkycdoc> gnomefreak, krazykit: not 186MB but 239
[05:27] <DShepherd> was shuttleworth here earlier for the release?
[05:27] <Celestar> h3sp4wn: I'm already in, trying to install kubuntu-desktop
[05:28] <Hobbsee> DShepherd: in #ubuntu ?  i doubt it
[05:28] <rredd4> i have rc before final was out, now that final is out, no updates for rc?  update manager says up to date... thought there would be downloads
[05:28] <DShepherd> Hobbsee: ok
[05:28] <xet7> DShepherd: autologin is selected, but still it doesn't login automatically.
[05:28] <fatalblu> jdkycdoc: apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade are different, dist-upgrade will install new packages if needed. you want the dist-upgrade
[05:28] <dunnix> any one having sound problems    i think i figured it out
[05:28] <brainlessbob> Shall I install gnome on my 233mhz 82mb PC?
[05:28] <Hobbsee> rredd4: that would be righ thten
[05:28] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: no he wasnt
[05:28] <fatalblu> brainlessbob: nein, windowmaker
[05:28] <DShepherd> rredd4: cat /etc/issue. it should tell you want version you have
[05:28] <h3sp4wn> Celestar: Why ?
[05:28] <Lukketto> brainlessbob: xubuntu
[05:28] <bbrazil> brainlessbob: not the best of ideas, try xubuntu maybe
[05:28] <mwe> rredd4: It's the same here. I think it's ok
[05:28] <toran> gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgconf-2.so.4: undefined symbol: g_slice_alloc4 dpkg: error processing gnomemeeting (--remove):
[05:28] <NoUse> brainlessbob or xfce
[05:28] <rredd4> Hobbsee  hi!!
[05:28] <brainlessbob> How about fluxbox?
[05:28] <linchriss> okay.. whats the next release of ubuntu :)
[05:28] <Celestar> h3sp4wn: just for trying it. actually I'm looking for some administration tools.
[05:29] <gnomefreak> linchriss: edgy eft 6.10
[05:29] <toran> gconf2 is broken, and without it you can't do anything. ANYTHING.
[05:29] <spikeb> linchriss, edgy eft
[05:29] <Hobbsee> rredd4: hey
[05:29] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: ok. i asked because Seveas said something about Mark not being awake yet and ubuntu not being released
[05:29] <The_Machine> question:  after doing an apt-get dist-upgrade, will it give all the new gnome desktop wallpapers and everything, as if i did a CD installation?
[05:29] <Celestar> h3sp4wn: like to set up all those NICs, NIS client, samba server, ldap server + client ...
[05:29] <jdkycdoc> gnomefreak, krazykit fatalblu : tanks i will go for the dist-upgrade (later) then, thanks again and bye
[05:29] <jdkycdoc> h
[05:29] <h3sp4wn> Celestar: Just use a serial console and configure everything manually
[05:29] <The_Machine> (i'm so excited to get this finished!!!)
[05:29] <linchriss> nice.. :)
[05:29] <nalioth> The_Machine: you will be fully up to date (newer than the CD, perhaps)
[05:29] <Corey> guys
[05:29] <tubbie> guys, vmware is free. right?
[05:29] <fatalblu> i'm waiting for Ubuntu Noxious Nibbler or how about Stinky Spammer
[05:29] <Corey> i have big problems
[05:29] <Celestar> h3sp4wn: where would I configure it manually?
[05:29] <toran> NoUse:
[05:29] <bbrazil> tubbie: it's costless, not free
[05:29] <toran> gconftool-2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgconf-2.so.4: undefined symbol: g_slice_alloc4 dpkg: error processing gnomemeeting (--remove):
[05:29] <WarOfAttrition> those aren't animals
[05:30] <The_Machine> :D  yay
[05:30] <bbrazil> tubbie: the player anyway
[05:30] <fatalblu> a Nibbler is
[05:30] <WarOfAttrition> well maybe Spammer is an animal, but in a different sense
[05:30] <The_Machine> thanks for the help guys
[05:30] <Mahmoud85> Hobbsee: should I install the updated /etc/hdparm.conf?
[05:30] <tubbie> !vmware
[05:30] <The_Machine> updating now!
[05:30] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[05:30] <fatalblu> haven't you seen futurama?
[05:30] <The_Machine> bbiab
[05:30] <Hobbsee> Mahmoud85: i've got no clue - have you modified yours?
[05:30] <frank_> hehe 1000 people here: sounds like a release! ;)
[05:30] <tubbie> I have win xp running in qemu. it is too slow to work on
[05:30] <fatalblu> ooooh i just remembered, Half Life Episode One comes out today
[05:30] <amadors> amadors
[05:30] <Or> What is on the dapper DVD?
[05:30] <Celestar> tubbie: winXP is too slow to work on even if run natively
[05:30] <fatalblu> June 1 is a good day for the Solarly disinclined
[05:31] <amadors> amadors
[05:31] <rredd4> DSheperd  here is my cat   Ubuntu 6.06 LTS \n \l     what is the \n  \l?
[05:31] <WarOfAttrition> so I imagine #ubuntu+1 is now the 6.10 nervous newt channel?
[05:31] <eXistenZ> Hobbsee, Can you paste your sources.list?
[05:31] <Hobbsee> frank_: that it does
[05:31] <amadors> amadors
[05:31] <Firetech> hmm... dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper wants to remove an awfull lot of packages, not just all of KDE, but also gnome stuff like gedit etc, mozilla-broswer and nvidia-settings (and a lot more)... is this normal?
[05:31] <Frogzoo> Or: it's 3gigs, so I'm guessing everything
[05:31] <Hobbsee> !tell eXistenZ about repos
[05:31] <Firetech> 1618 upgraded, 231 newly installed, 529 to remove and 12 not upgraded.
[05:31] <bbrazil> amadors: do you have a question?
[05:31] <jason^> if i have a pentium d dual core whatever the hell, should i be using the x86_64 version of ubuntu?
[05:31] <gnomefreak> ok guys since there is so many people in here lets keep the offtopic talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:31] <h3sp4wn> Celestar: nics /etc/network/interfaces samba /etc/samba/smb.conf nis is insecure
[05:31] <nosklo> WAHa_06x36, edgy eft
[05:31] <nosklo> ops
[05:31] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: ok
[05:31] <nosklo> WarOfAttrition, edgy eft
[05:31] <Celestar> h3sp4wn: that's why I'll be migrating to ldap
[05:31] <fatalblu> Ubuntu 10.05 Purple Pacaderm
[05:32] <majd> !dapper
[05:32] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[05:32] <spikeb> is there anywhere on the wiki to propose stuff for edgy?>
[05:32] <cute_bettong> w00ty
[05:32] <andy101> help, update manager told me dapper was available earlier but I cancelled it because it said it would take hours, now I want to install it but update manager won't show the upgrade, any ideas?
[05:32] <h3sp4wn> Celestar: Read the docs for slapd then
[05:32] <Geheimnis> I have a Compaq Presario (laptop) R4000 with a built-in wireless card. I try to install it using ndiswrapper, it says the driver and hardware are present, but wlan0 doesn't appear when typing iwconfig. Does anybody have an idea what the problem is?
[05:32] <Geheimnis> I'm running Ubuntu 6.06
[05:32] <amadors> alvaro amador santiago
[05:32] <fatalblu> o-/-<
[05:32] <fatalblu> o-\-<
[05:32] <Frogzoo> !tell andy101 about torrent
[05:32] <majd> i can just update from RC1 right?
[05:32] <fatalblu> o->-|
[05:32] <gnomefreak> fatalblu: stop that
[05:32] <ompaul> fatalblu, stop thanks
[05:32] <fatalblu> heh sorry
[05:32] <tristanmike> fatalblu, please stop that
[05:32] <spikeb> yeah majd
[05:32] <jazzido> andy101: same here, nobody seems to know the solution
[05:32] <DShepherd> majd: yes
[05:32] <majd> k
[05:32] <revmouse> Geheimnis, what kind of wireless card?
[05:32] <Frogzoo> andy101: the upgrade's probly not showing cos the repos are struggling
[05:32] <Mahmoud85> Hobbsee: I did not modify it myself but it seem a script modified it: http://pastebin.com/751505 (shows the differences)
[05:32] <Celestar> h3sp4wn: I know how to configure smb.conf and slapd.conf, I was just wondering about whether there are any administration tools, since I'm wondering whether to move to ubuntu on workstations as well.
[05:33] <bbrazil> amadors: #ubuntu-es
[05:33] <blehe> torrent seems slow
[05:33] <void^> Geheimnis: lsmod | grep ndis
[05:33] <cavediver> installed 6.06 on my IBM Xseries 305 and all is well.Liked the new LAMP option.
[05:33] <ompaul> !es
[05:33] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:33] <cavediver> Way to go.
[05:33] <Geheimnis> revmouse: lspci says it's a Broadcom BCM4306 802.11b/g
[05:33] <rredd4> mwe  so we had final already...
[05:33] <Frogzoo> blehe: it will ramp up - I'm getting 100kB/s
[05:33] <Hobbsee> Mahmoud85: i dont know
[05:33] <Nailor> Hello. Is Dapper using LILO as default boot loader?
[05:33] <blehe> there we go =)
[05:33] <eXistenZ> Hobbsee, That link doesn't work http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[05:33] <tubbie> can u create a virtual machine with the vmware player?
[05:33] <defrysk> Nailor, grub
[05:33] <BitNinja707> I've added the multiverse...and i'm still getting an error for not finding the flashplugin-nonfree
[05:33] <bbrazil> BitNinja707: sudo apt-get update
[05:33] <sweetnjguy29> use the torrents guys -- http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[05:34] <fatalblu> tubbie: nah gotta grab vmware server for that from vmwares website
[05:34] <mwe> rredd4: it seems
[05:34] <federico_> what is the best way to upgrade from breezy to drapper without broadband? there's the alternative intall CD and the regulat CD
[05:34] <Nailor> defrysk: Well, tell it to my dapper installation.
[05:34] <h3sp4wn> Celestar: Not really its easy enough to script stuff like that though
[05:34] <tubbie> ok :)
[05:34] <Nailor> defrysk: I'm atm installing dapper on my laptop and all it offers (the alternative-image) is LILO
[05:34] <tristanmike> federico_, you'll want the "Desktop CD" for a basic user install
[05:34] <Corey> Frogzoo: you said to do this
[05:34] <krazykit> Nailor: then you're using lvm.  you probably don't need it
[05:34] <Corey> Frogzoo: glxinfo |grep direct
[05:34] <blehe> anyone else dual booting from windows for first time?
[05:34] <nosklo> tristanmike, even to upgrade without broadband?
[05:34] <defrysk> Nailor, installing reiser4 ?
[05:35] <Nailor> krazykit: Aa, Grub can't handle LVM?
[05:35] <Corey> Frogzoo: I did that and it says direct rendering no, OpenGl render string: mesa glx indirect
[05:35] <jacquesmerde> fricking hell. i was wondering why ubuntu was running so slow....i'd gotten rid of my swap partition! it still wasnt that slow though!!
[05:35] <Nailor> krazykit: And I "need" LVM, I like te flexibility of it
[05:35] <Corey> Frogzoo: what do i dooo
[05:35] <krazykit> Nailor: oh, i'd just go with lilo for now, and see if grub can do it later.
[05:35] <Corey> all
[05:35] <revmouse> Geheimnis, the built in bcm43xx doesn't work with all cards. Check out the Wireless section for my laptop, it worked for me. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HPPavilionZV6233NR
[05:35] <federico_> tristanmike: i want to upgrade from 5.10
[05:35] <tristanmike> nosklo, I don't understand the question
[05:35] <blehe> how much space should i give the main ubuntu partition?
[05:35] <Corey> all how do I solve this problem Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:35] <tristanmike> !tell federico_ about upgrade
[05:35] <Nailor> krazykit: Well I'm just fine with lilo, but I just wondered has the default boot loader changed :)
[05:36] <jra> oh, ubuntu has a hppa port... wow
[05:36] <Frogzoo> Corey: looks like you're running the vga driver
[05:36] <Or> What is on the dapper DVD? Is it desktop, alternate and server in one?
[05:36] <Frogzoo> Corey: what's your vid card?
[05:36] <krazykit> Nailor: the vast majority of users don't even know what lvm is/does, so i just figured... y'know :-P
[05:36] <bbrazil> Or: as far as I know
[05:36] <Corey> Ati 340M
[05:36] <Frogzoo> !tell Or about torrent
[05:36] <Corey> Frogzoo: its intergrated graphics.
[05:36] <Diiba> So the ubuntu isn't out yet?
[05:36] <krazykit> Diiba: it is.
[05:36] <nosklo> tristanmike, i already have a machine without broadband running breezy, which cd should I use to upgrade it to dapper
[05:36] <Frogzoo> Corey: do you know ati/nvidia/ibm?
[05:36] <bbrazil> Diiba: it's been out a good while now
[05:36] <DShepherd> Diiba: topic
[05:36] <Diiba> :)
[05:36] <Corey> Frogzoo: yes
[05:36] <Diiba> Well, whats the upgrade command?
[05:36] <sweetnjguy29> Diiba:  It came out today -- grab it at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[05:36] <bundzoot> how do you install anything on ubuntu?i am trying to install nero and java
[05:36] <h3sp4wn> Nailor: You could have /boot not using lvm and have grub installed there
[05:36] <Or> Thank you
[05:36] <DShepherd> Diiba: from breezy?
[05:37] <defrysk> !upgrade
[05:37] <ubotu> upgrade is probably Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[05:37] <Frogzoo> Corey: well install the appropriate driver then
[05:37] <Corey> Frogzoo: Its an AGP card..its shared memory notebook graphics ..?
[05:37] <federico_> thanks
[05:37] <Nailor> krazykit: Yeah, that's my normal answer to lvm-related stuff too :)
[05:37] <tristanmike> nosklo, you don't use the cd to "upgrade", you use the cd to reinstall
[05:37] <Frogzoo> Corey: what does 'sudo lspci' say it is?
[05:37] <krazykit> Corey: give me a second and i think i can resolve your problem
[05:37] <jacquesmerde> my swap partition is currently a fat32 partition, how do i temporarily unmount the swap partition so i can change it to an ACTUAL swap partition?
[05:37] <Nailor> h3sp4wn: I'm just fine with lilo :)
[05:37] <tristanmike> nosklo, and it's the "Desktop CD" for most people
[05:37] <mp3guy> I'm having a problem with amarok 1.4 in a fresh install of dapper
[05:37] <Intangir> has anyone used nautilus-vcs?
[05:37] <rredd4> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS \n \l    what is the /n /l  for?
[05:37] <nosklo> oh, i cant upgrade using the CD?
[05:37] <Geheimnis> revmouse: thanks, all I have to do is to install their driver ?
[05:37] <Corey> krazykit: thanks man
[05:37] <krazykit> Corey: but it'll require playing with your xorg.conf :-P
[05:38] <sweetnjguy29> nosklo:  you can, if you have all your files in a seperately partitioned home directory
[05:38] <nosklo> that means I have to reinstall? is it impossible to upgrade using the CD?
[05:38] <void^> jacquesmerde: swapoff
[05:38] <revmouse> Geheimnis, blacklist the current driver and use ndiswrapper, I made instructions at the bottom of the URL I formerly posted
[05:38] <Corey> Frogzoo: IGP 340M
[05:38] <Corey> krazykit: no problems
[05:38] <andy101> for some odd reason "update-manager -d" shows 6.06, but without it doesn't, is it safe to use it with -d?
[05:38] <DShepherd> nosklo: you should be able to
[05:38] <nosklo> I remember putting a breezy CD on a hoary install, and it asked if I wanted to upgrade
[05:38] <jacquesmerde> void^: waxon? waxoff?
[05:38] <Corey> Frogzoo: RS200/RS200M AGP Bridge [IGP 340M] 
[05:38] <nosklo> so this doesn't work anymore?
[05:38] <DShepherd> andy101: yeah
[05:39] <Geheimnis> revmouse: thanks, I'll try it out. good job by the way
[05:39] <DShepherd> nosklo: it should
[05:39] <revmouse> Geheimnis, thanks! :D
[05:39] <Deep6> DShepherd: I figured out my problem, it was my proxy server with a content filter (dansguardian) not allowing the bz2 files to be downloaded
[05:39] <eyequeue> nosklo, there is no reason to need a cd to upgrade, it's just a couple of commands
[05:39] <NoUse> andy101 have you clicked the 'check' button and see if it shows up without the -d
[05:39] <DShepherd> Deep6: kool, happier now?
[05:39] <nosklo> eyequeue, but I dont have broadband on the machine to upgrade
[05:39] <TheMadman> any advantage of getting the server install over the desktop?
[05:39] <andy101> noUse: yes, several times
[05:40] <christo_> can anybody help with this?  http://tinyurl.com/qdgwn
[05:40] <nosklo> DShepherd, and which CD should I use to it? desktop or alternate?
[05:40] <eyequeue> TheMadman, tweaked kernels
[05:40] <Frogzoo> Corey: does it mention ATI anywhere?
[05:40] <NoUse> andy101 it should be safe to you use -d
[05:40] <Corey> Frogzoo: yes
[05:40] <krazykit> Corey: mind if i pm you real fast?
[05:40] <andy101> NUse: Thanks
[05:40] <Corey> ATI Technologies
[05:40] <Corey> krazykit: no problems
[05:40] <DShepherd> nosklo: i would say go for the alternate.
[05:40] <Frogzoo> Corey: need a model number
[05:40] <nosklo> TheMadman, yes, there are server packages on the CD like apache so you dont have to download them
[05:40] <BitNinja707> thanks everyone
[05:41] <TheMadman> rubs going server thanks
[05:41] <Corey> Frogzoo: RS200/RS200M AGP Bridge [IGP 340M] 
[05:41] <draven_> drav
[05:41] <jacquesmerde> void^: swapoff -a skeips my actual swap partition. i cant work out the correct command
[05:41] <samu> Nothing happens when I press the "check" button
[05:41] <Frogzoo> Corey: pretty sure that's not the vid card model no
[05:42] <Corey> Frogzoo: its radeon...
[05:42] <Frogzoo> samu: maybe the repos are out to lunch...
[05:42] <Corey> radeon igp 340m
[05:42] <Frogzoo> Corey: radeon which?
[05:42] <samu> Frogzoo, think so?
[05:42] <void^> jacquesmerde: `cat /proc/swaps` lists active swap partitions/files. swapoff /dev/whatever to deactivate.
[05:42] <lefty_2nd> Could someone who has experiance with running ubuntu as a "live cd" with usb drive to store settings please pm me - having little luck  with forums atm, laggggy...
[05:42] <Corey> Frogzoo: Device		"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 330M/340M/350M (RS200 IGP)
[05:42] <bundzoot> can anyone help me i used to have windows2000 and had problems with it so i changed to ubuntu but i am finding it hard to use how do you install anything it is just showing everything in folders
[05:42] <samu> A dialogue says it's checking the repos.
[05:42] <rredd4> repos are probably getting hit hard today
[05:42] <jacquesmerde> void^: aaahhh! thanks man!
[05:42] <Xylene> is there anyway to make Xorg on the desktop live cd run in 16bit mode? 24bit is SUPER SLOW on this neomagic chip
[05:43] <nmsa> Happy Birthday Dapper!
[05:43] <TheMadman> know if ati 9550 and evil 9200 cards are successful too corey?
[05:43] <Katu> is there anyway to make my linksys network card run with ubuntu?
[05:43] <valle> HELLO
[05:43] <Corey> TheMadman: this is a really old graphics card on board shared memory..
[05:43] <eXistenZ> !ati
[05:43] <ubotu> somebody said ati was http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[05:43] <bur[n] er> !tell Katu about hardware
[05:43] <jacquesmerde> void^: cat /proc/swaps gave me NOTHING!
[05:43] <eXistenZ> !repos
[05:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:44] <Frogzoo> !tell Corey about fglrx
[05:44] <TheMadman> nice thank you ubotu
[05:44] <Hobbsee> !msgthebot
[05:44] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:44] <Frogzoo> Corey: follow the instructions ubotu sent you to install the fglrx driver
[05:44] <Hobbsee> !tell eXistenZ about msgthebot
[05:44] <TheMadman> i had trouble with hoary is all
[05:44] <void^> jacquesmerde: what makes you think you have active swap?
[05:44] <tubbie> !wine
[05:44] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux. Get the latest .deb from http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/ or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[05:44] <Xylene> is there anyway to make Xorg on the desktop live cd run in 16bit mode? 24bit is SUPER SLOW on this neomagic chip
[05:44] <Diiba> Hi'gain
[05:44] <saif> azureus says that i am behind a firewall, how do i open a port on ubuntu for azurues to work?
[05:45] <sweetnjguy29> saif:  are you sure its ubuntu and not your router?
[05:45] <Crane> Hello!
[05:45] <Celestar> hmm
[05:45] <Crane> It's Dapper Day
[05:45] <dapper> Hi
[05:45] <xet7> How can I get Ubuntu Dapper to automatically get all updates (even unsigned) and install allways automatically on background, without clicking anything?
[05:45] <krazykit> saif: you do it on your router.  google for port forwarding
[05:45] <jacquesmerde> void^: i dont think its active. its currently a fat32 partition. but when i try to use gparted to format it to swap, it says its already mounted. it used to be a swap partition on this 'buntu system before i accidently reformatted
[05:45] <Crane> So do we answer Dapper quaetsion in her today
[05:45] <dapper> I am trying to upgrade from Breezy, and according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades I can use update-manager.
[05:45] <mwe> Crane: yes
[05:45] <Crane> yes you can
[05:45] <Hobbsee> Crane: yep
[05:46] <siimz> hi im trying to install ubuntu on my pc and television using my radeon 8500 svideo output, and the refresh rate of the default install is over 60hz which wont display on my television, does anyone know a way around this?
[05:46] <Crane> cool
[05:46] <NoUse> xet7 look into the apt-get man page and look into how to use cron
[05:46] <sybariten> on Damnsmalllinux, when booting, i get US keyboard. I get my swedish characters by exiting X and doing loadkeys se-latin1. This seems to affect the whole system. Isnt there something similar i can do on Ubuntu??
[05:46] <Frogzoo> !tell dapper about torrent
[05:46] <dapper> But when I run update-manager it doesn't seem to find any updates for me the way this webpage says it will.
[05:46] <sybariten> Coz i dont really like the philosophy of having a specific gnome or xfce keyboard layout ... i want something global
[05:46] <Frogzoo> dapper: you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list & swap breezy/dapper
[05:46] <saif> krazykit, i did it on my router i am forwording to the right port and ip, azurues configured for the port, but still says that, could it be because i installed azurues manually? not using dpkg?
[05:46] <Afrodita> yo voy a ahecer impress
[05:46] <mwe> sybariten: you need to configure xorg.conf
[05:47] <sybariten> if i do loadkeys se-latin1 on my ubuntu system, i just get errors in a long loop
[05:47] <fatalblu> sybariten: the folder with the keymaps might not be in the path, try locate se-latin and give loadkeys an absolute path
[05:47] <krazykit> saif: that has nothing to do with it.
[05:47] <dapper> Frogzoo, Oh okay.  That page doesn't make that clear at all.
[05:47] <Celestar> I wish apt-get was SMP-aware
[05:47] <sybariten> fatalblu: got that sir
[05:47] <fatalblu> sybariten: erm you are going a sudo loadkeys, just to be clear of course
[05:47] <Spec> Where's the breezy channel?
[05:47] <mwe> Celestar: what do you mean?
[05:47] <netgrabber> !dvd
[05:47] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[05:47] <dapper> Is there another URL besides paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 that gives the sources.list changes?  That site won't respond for me.
[05:47] <Celestar> mwe: running things parallel :P
[05:47] <Frogzoo> Spec: right here but shared with dapper now
[05:47] <mwe> Celestar: oh yes
[05:48] <Spec> breezy should be in ubuntu-1 :p
[05:48] <saif> krazykit, so what coult it be? the only thing i c is this, in the past i used to use firestarter to open the port and it worked, some1 told me not to use firestarter, to leave as is better!
[05:48] <sybariten> mwe: yeah, i've read about that, but it just feels so weird to alter the keyboard settings in a file related to the window manager, instead of the whole system
[05:48] <bundzoot> how do i? install java
[05:48] <sybariten> fatalblu: hm, good question
[05:48] <Grimtharr> How do I move to the "etc" location in Terminal when I'm in my home folder?
[05:48] <jacquesmerde> void^: ?
[05:48] <Katu> can anyone please help me make my network wireless card  WPC54G (Ver.4) work
[05:48] <fatalblu> heh
[05:48] <gil> alright....i have been trying with no sucess....
[05:48] <mwe> Celestar: I don't think apt will allow more than one process to lock for safety reasons, so it probably rather difficult to implement safely
[05:48] <bbrazil> Grimtharr: cd /etc
[05:48] <Xylene> is there anyway to make Xorg on the desktop live cd run in 16bit mode? 24bit is SUPER SLOW on this neomagic chip
[05:48] <gil> i have a toshiba m40x....i cant for the life of me get the Card reader to pick up an inserted card
[05:49] <gil> anyone?
[05:49] <saif> Katu, i got mine to work
[05:49] <jdmpike> man, I totally hosed freenx when I installed dapper....
[05:49] <bbrazil> bundzoot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Java
[05:49] <jdmpike> doh!
[05:49] <saif> Katu, not sure if i can help u if u face real difficulties!
[05:49] <Celestar> mwe: yes I kind of agree :)
[05:49] <h3sp4wn> dapper: sudo sed -ie "s/breezy/dapper/" sources.list && grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list (should all say dapper)
[05:49] <sybariten> fatalblu: euhm, as embarassing as it is, that was probably the reason loadkeys gave me an error ... i forgot sudo. However, i get a positive response now, but nothing seems affected!  still a US layout in the terminal
[05:49] <krazykit> gil: i hear those integrated card readers always give trouble.
[05:49] <bundzoot> thanks bbrazil
[05:49] <void^> jacquesmerde: look at `mount` and `cat /proc/mounts`
[05:49] <Yorgos> can i ask
[05:49] <Yorgos> sth about xchat?
[05:49] <dapper> h3sp4wn, Thank you!
[05:50] <armedking> Is there a way to look for unused installed packages and remove them. ie. when installing something it installes deps but when removing the main package the dependancys remain
[05:50] <fatalblu> sybariten: there might be a keymap config somewhere in gnome that'll fix it
[05:50] <nahtical> I'm downloading dapper right now, and wish to install it alongside windows. I know I will need to create a main and swap partion, but what would I need to name them? (Or is it explained during install?)
[05:50] <h3sp4wn> dapper: If you have any unofficial repositories you should remove them
[05:50] <fatalblu> sybariten: can't check myself, i'm on a crummy fedora 5 box at work
[05:50] <fatalblu> 800x600 you are not a pleasure
[05:50] <dapper> h3sp4wn, I don't but thanks.
[05:50] <mwe> sybariten: I think ubuntu uses consolechars in place of loadkeys
[05:50] <Yorgos> can i use a TCL i am using in my eggdrop in my XChat?
[05:50] <Celestar> I wish my gnome displayed more than just a grey background
[05:50] <jacquesmerde> void^: i already tried that. no mention of the partition
[05:51] <fatalblu> nahtical: if you mean a letter name, you don't. it does it another way
[05:51] <Frogzoo> !tell Celestar about themes
[05:51] <Yorgos> Frogzoo,
[05:51] <Yorgos> can i use a TCL i am using in my eggdrop in my XChat?
[05:51] <orangehaw> Help wanted: my toshiba M60-171 with resolution 1440x900 (wxga) produces startup sounds but no screen
[05:51] <Frogzoo> Yorgos: ask the channel
[05:51] <Yorgos> i did lol
[05:51] <Yorgos> nobody answered:P
[05:51] <void^> jacquesmerde: use fdisk
[05:51] <krazykit> Yorgos: irc is not instant reply chat.
[05:52] <dapper> h3sp4wn, What is the grep part of that command supposed to do?
[05:52] <Geheimnis> revmouse: thanks, it works !
[05:52] <spikeb> it's also not snarky retort chat, either.
[05:52] <jacquesmerde> void^: fdisk is a bit hardcore for me. can i stick with cfdisk?
[05:52] <fatalblu> irc is multiplayer notepad!
[05:52] <nahtical> fatalblu: so basically the installer will do most of the dirty work for me, more or less all i have to do is make sure it isnt asking me something crazy and click yes/next
[05:52] <Grimtharr> Hmm, apparently I do not have the permission to edit a file in my etc folder. How do I get permission?
[05:52] <dapper> I get "sed: -e expression #1, char 15: unterminated `s' command"
[05:52] <h3sp4wn> dapper: strip out comments
[05:52] <kspath> Yorgos: among those in #ubuntu what percentage do you think uses Xchat or eggdrop or TCL?
[05:52] <Diiba> Do the dapper dance :))
[05:52] <DShepherd> kspath: we dont know
[05:52] <Yorgos> that's why i asked in case someone knows
[05:52] <fatalblu> nahtical: yeah it should even have an option to resize the windows partition if you need it, if not then just chose the use free space option
[05:52] <bbrazil> Grimtharr: sudo the-edit-command
[05:52] <void^> jacquesmerde: don't know, i've always used fdisk
[05:52] <Grimtharr> thanks bbrazil
[05:52] <nahtical> fatalblu: ok thanks
[05:53] <jacquesmerde> void^: Wrote partition table, but re-read table failed.  Reboot to update table.
[05:53] <jacquesmerde>                  Toggle bootable flag of the current partition
[05:53] <fatalblu> Diiba: i did the dapper dance, i almost got banned for it heh
[05:53] <dapper> h3sp4wn, But I just want to change all references of "breezy" to "dapper" in that file?
[05:53] <Diiba> :)
[05:53] <void^> jacquesmerde: that's normal if the disk is in use at all (any partition on the disk)
[05:53] <h3sp4wn> dapper: Thats to check whether it has been done
[05:53] <dapper> h3sp4wn, None of it changed.  But I can edit it with nano or something.
[05:53] <jacquesmerde> void^: sweet. i think its working sudo cat /proc/swaps
[05:53] <jacquesmerde> Filename                                Type            Size    Used    Priority/dev/hda5                               partition       1132540 0       -1
[05:54] <void^> jacquesmerde: you can try `blockdev --rereadpt` or just reboot
[05:54] <ocult> where i report something ?
[05:54] <fatalblu> there is no nano, there is only... vim
[05:54] <ocult> ?
[05:54] <void^> jacquesmerde: yes, type of partition doesn't matter anyway for using it
[05:54] <jra> no spoon, just fork()
[05:54] <h3sp4wn> dapper: sudo sed -ie "s/breezy/dapper/" /etc/apt/sources.list (unless you are already in /etc/apt/
[05:54] <sybariten> 
[05:54] <sybariten> fatalblu: mwe : ok
[05:54] <runes> is /usr/share the default directory where all local users have read/write access?
[05:55] <jacquesmerde> void^: well, it wasnt using the swap partition before. is that the appropriate output from /proc/swaps?
[05:55] <jra> runes: no
[05:55] <bbrazil> h3sp4wn: I don't think that'll do what you think it'll do. -i can take an argument
[05:55] <nm> mi name is dis noelia
[05:55] <Celestar> hm
[05:55] <Frogzoo_away> runes: nope - /tmp
[05:55] <Noah0504> Okay, Dapper has been released, but why aren't there any upgrades for us that are using the betas or RC?
[05:55] <void^> jacquesmerde: yes
[05:55] <Celestar> Frogzoo_away: I mean I ONLY see a grey screen
[05:55] <Celestar> :P
[05:55] <dapper> h3sp4wn, Thank you!
[05:55] <nm> wat you name
[05:55] <jacquesmerde> void^: sweet
[05:55] <krazykit> Noah0504: if you updated about 24 hours ago, there shouldn't be any updates, as it was frozen about that time
[05:56] <runes> ok where would I look in the ubuntu manuals to find the default folders created and what they are for?
[05:56] <jacquesmerde> waxon, waxoff. swapon, swapoff
[05:56] <jra> runes: man hier
[05:56] <fatalblu> runes: default folders? where?
[05:56] <Noah0504> krazykit: haha, I got excited about nothing!
[05:56] <bbrazil> runes: try the File Hierarchy Standard
[05:56] <runes> ty!
[05:56] <Frogzoo_away> runes: you want to google 'linux standard base'
[05:57] <azurehuesofblue> what is the bash command to show hidden files?
[05:57] <runes> ok
[05:57] <Weasel-> Ubuntu rocks
[05:57] <carrasco> hello
[05:57] <bbrazil> azurehuesofblue: ls -a
[05:57] <Hobbsee> azurehuesofblue: ls -la
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> dapper: sudo sed -e 's/breezy/dapper' -i /etc/apt/sources.list (that is definately correct because I have just tested it)
[05:57] <dr_willis> azurehuesofblue:'  ls -a' you mean?
[05:57] <fatalblu> azurehuesofblue: ls -la hidden files begin with a .
[05:57] <azurehuesofblue> cool thanks.
[05:57] <kspath> azurehuesofblue: hidden?  man ls ?
[05:57] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:57] <trainer> hi, I just upgraded to Dapper but all my repositories in synaptic still say 5.10 - shouldn't they be 6.06?
[05:57] <dapper> h3sp4wn, I did the previous command and I think it worked.
[05:58] <tRSS> hi all. congrats on the release of drapper drake!
[05:58] <tuxtheslacker> hey, can someone send me the ATi driver link?
[05:58] <dr_willis> !ati
[05:58] <mwe> !ati
[05:58] <ubotu> I heard ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[05:58] <dapper> trainer, Do what h3sp4wn just told me to do.
[05:58] <tRSS> i would like to know how I can apt-get to drapper drake without reinstalling?
[05:58] <kane77> how can I merge two partitions together?? when I tried PartitionMagic (in win) i got some error message about something not being on the right place and two options fix or fix later I chose fix later as I wasnt sure what it is... but now it doesnt show my disk at all... (it shows just my first disk...) so how can i merge them (both are ext3)
[05:58] <tuxtheslacker> thanks!
[05:58] <dapper> trainer, in a terminal do: sudo sed -e 's/breezy/dapper' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:58] <Corey> im back
[05:58] <Corey> and it had a blue screen of death
[05:58] <tRSS> hey Corey!
[05:59] <Corey> tRSS: hi..
[05:59] <Xylene> is there anyway to make Xorg on the desktop live cd run in 16bit mode? 24bit is SUPER SLOW on this neomagic chip
[05:59] <tRSS> so how can I update to dapper drake without reinstalling?
[05:59] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[05:59] <JoeyB3> Hwy Corey!!
[05:59] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[05:59] <dapper> Do I have to use synaptic or can I use the update-manager?
[05:59] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody know anything about google earth for linux?
[05:59] <Hobbsee> !tell tRSS about update
[05:59] <Celestar> ubotu: NIS
[05:59] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Celestar
[05:59] <bbrazil> tRSS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[05:59] <MetaMorfoziS> !googleearth
[05:59] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS
[05:59] <dr_willis> MetaMorfoziS:  i hear the cedega people are working on it.
[05:59] <fatalblu> tRSS: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list and change all the references of breezy to dapper
[05:59] <Elops> If I download the source CDs of ubuntu is it faster to add stuff using apt-cdrom ?
[05:59] <dapper> Because update-manager seems to tell me I should use synaptic or apt-get dist-upgrade.  But the webpage says I can use update-manager.
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> who shit!
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> somehow this is saying I'm using 95% of my diskspace...
[06:00] <ohzie> How many people updated last night and broke their systems other than me?
[06:00] <bbrazil> Elops: the source CDs contain source code, so I don't think you want those
[06:00] <ohzie> I'm trying to see if updating broke it, or if something else broke it.
[06:00] <tRSS> thanks alot ! :)
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> /dev/hda7             2.1G  1.9G  102M  95% /
[06:00] <carrasco> algum brasileiro??
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> it apparenlty partitioned wrong....
[06:00] <bbrazil> !br
[06:00] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:00] <fatalblu> tuxtheslacker: lol
[06:00] <Celestar> how do I enable a NIS client ?
[06:00] <kspath> !tell carrasco about br
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> shite!
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> hahahaha!
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> not a nice realization.
[06:00] <andrejkw> Hey Guys
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> shit!
[06:00] <MetaMorfoziS> dr_willis: and when it comes out?
[06:00] <bbrazil> Elops: as for whether cds are better, that's a matter of your net connection
[06:00] <ohzie> !news
[06:01] <tuxtheslacker> maybe partition magic will fix it?
[06:01] <tuxtheslacker> :-/.
[06:01] <andrejkw> I installed XGL and Compiz, and now nobody can connect to my Remote Desktop. How can I fix this?
[06:01] <northcol> I would like to try the latest version of amaroK on Ubuntu. I saw there is a .deb package for Kubuntu. Is it safe to try to install it on normal Ubuntu (Dapper Drake)?
[06:01] <fatalblu> tuxtheslacker: i saw that earlier when i was partway through a debmirror of dapper
[06:01] <Elops> isnt there a ubuntu+1 channel?
[06:01] <trainer> dapper, sed: -e expression #1, char 15: unterminated `s' command
[06:01] <bbrazil> northcol: yes
[06:01] <bbrazil> Elops: not at the moment
[06:01] <fatalblu> tuxtheslacker: logcheck started SCREAMING at me
[06:01] <kane77> how can I merge two partitions together?? when I tried PartitionMagic (in win) i got some error message about something not being on the right place and two options fix or fix later I chose fix later as I wasnt sure what it is... but now it doesnt show my disk at all... (it shows just my first disk...) so how can i merge them (both are ext3)
[06:01] <Corey> krazykit: ???
[06:01] <ohzie> When my xserver is disabled, how do I re enable it?
[06:01] <revmouse> Elops, I think its shut down until edgy eft repositories open up
[06:01] <northcol> bbrazil: Thanks for the fast reply!
[06:01] <Elops> oh ok
[06:01] <Corey> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:02] <bbrazil> kane77: copy data from B to A, delete B, expand A to take up B's space. This is a non-trivial task, backup your data first
[06:02] <revmouse> Elops, which will be sometime mid-june
[06:02] <saif> any ideas how i change the port for gnomebittorrent?
[06:02] <fatalblu> anyone here use rTorrent?
[06:02] <Led_Zeppelin> hello, I am currently running Debian, and would like to try Ubuntu. Is it possible to install it without a CD?
[06:02] <dmb062082> Ubunto wont let me select a res higher than 800x600, not sure where this came from, as I have higher options selected in xserver-xorg configuration files, and frankly am going on a 2nd install onto a bigger partition, same pc and I was fine before.. any0ne? =(
[06:02] <Led_Zeppelin> spikeb: :-)
[06:03] <h3sp4wn> trainer: sudo sed -e 's/breezy/dapper/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list (he missed out the final slash) then check with grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:03] <spikeb> Led_Zeppelin, i dont think so
[06:03] <spikeb> Led_Zeppelin, love your nick btw :)
[06:03] <lastnode> Led_Zeppelin, you can
[06:03] <Led_Zeppelin> similar to bootstrapping it.
[06:03] <Xylene> so creative :/
[06:03] <lastnode> Led_Zeppelin, ever used debootstrap?
[06:03] <andrejkw> I installed XGL and Compiz, and now nobody can connect to my Remote Desktop. How can I fix this?
[06:03] <ocult> where i get skype?
[06:03] <fatalblu> Led_Zeppelin: you can try pointing apt at the ubuntu sources, good luck with that though i'd probably backup first
[06:03] <alanhs> I have a problem booting from the installation CD. agpgart seems to hang - I know this has been a problem, has anyone had similar experence ???
[06:03] <PrimoTurbo> !dapper
[06:03] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[06:03] <kane77> bbrazil, but i thought of something without the backup... the one i'd like to merge is / (root about 6GB)... the second one is empty about 1.4
[06:03] <Led_Zeppelin> lastnode: yes, heard of it, but got the image for it?
[06:03] <lastnode> !skype
[06:03] <ubotu> hmm... skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[06:03] <krazykit> Corey: still?  sheesh.  best i can tell you know is to use dpkg to reconfigure your xserver, but i honestly don't know the command.
[06:03] <Hobbsee> !xcfg
[06:03] <ubotu> hmm... xcfg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:03] <lastnode> Led_Zeppelin, debootstrap has a breezy script. so use that, and then dist-upgrade to dapper
[06:03] <saif> ocult, from the skype website, i got it, it doesn't work though :S
[06:03] <ompaul> cheers Hobbsee
[06:03] <Led_Zeppelin> lastnode: ha! simple as that?
[06:03] <ocult> un
[06:03] <lastnode> Led_Zeppelin, debootstrap 0.3.3 has a breezy script
[06:04] <lastnode> Led_Zeppelin, i think so :)
[06:04] <dmb062082> Other than this i AM DOING FINE.... but I cant select a higher rez and this problem came out of no wher
[06:04] <bbrazil> kane77: then you're going to have to slowly move and expand I'm guessing
[06:04] <dmb062082> led zeppelin rocks! Nice handle
[06:04] <fatalblu> so I says NO WAY! that'll cost you 20 dollars...
[06:04] <Led_Zeppelin> hmmm, I kinda don't want to reiun m debian
[06:04] <Corey> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:04] <Led_Zeppelin> dmb062082: :-)
[06:04] <chmod775> I am having problems with the power manager
[06:04] <kane77> bbrazil i guess i'll do it.. thanx
[06:04] <Led_Zeppelin> man, I want to try Ubuntu just because of this channel, everyone is friendly as hell here....proally hippies :-)
[06:04] <lastnode> Led_Zeppelin, install it on a new partition
[06:04] <fatalblu> peace and love man
[06:04] <Led_Zeppelin> lastnode: looks like, thats what I am doing
[06:04] <chmod775> doesnt work
[06:04] <lastnode> more love than a bus full of hippies
[06:05] <dapper_drake_ins> morning
[06:05] <jra> flowers, anyone?
[06:05] <lastnode> dapper_drake_ins, morning
[06:05] <fatalblu> Led_Zepplin Ubuntu Dapper: Now it's Elitism-Free!
[06:05] <dapper_drake_ins> I have an install issue
[06:05] <h3sp4wn> Led_Zeppelin: You can debootstrap dapper straight off
[06:05] <Elops> I have Ubuntu and no Internet connection. (now doesn't count ;) I wonder if I would solve my dependencies problems (I always need lib this and that...) if I would just get all the Debian CDs and add them into Synaptic. Is this software compatible with Ubuntu? Should be, ah?
[06:05] <Led_Zeppelin> i hate that word 'elite'
[06:05] <lastnode> spread the drake
[06:05] <lastnode> dapper_drake_ins, hit us with it!
[06:05] <fatalblu> Elops oh god no
[06:05] <trainer> dapper, I got it, thanks!
[06:05] <Celestar> ok
[06:05] <fatalblu> Elops: no no no
[06:05] <Celestar> konsole now crashed 3 times in 60 seconds
[06:05] <dapper_drake_ins> I'v dl'ed the ISO, burned it and I get corrupted liblang*.deb package
[06:05] <fatalblu> Elops: BAD idea
[06:05] <dapper_drake_ins> ....I have burned it twice
[06:06] <dapper_drake_ins> during install
[06:06] <Elops> ?
[06:06] <fatalblu> dapper_drake_ins probably a bad iso then, check the md5s
[06:06] <paulproteus> dapper_drake_ins, I have a corrupted vim on my DVD burn.
[06:06] <dmb062082> Ubuntu wont let me select a rez higher than 800x600, not sure where this came from, as I have higher rez options selected in xserver-xorg configuration files, and frankly am going on a 2nd install onto a bigger partition, same pc, and I was fine before.. anyone? =(
[06:06] <dmb062082> please
[06:06] <bego> hrtea
[06:06] <paulproteus> dapper_drake_ins, If you're crafty, you can get the text installer to a network install like I did.
[06:06] <bego> hello
[06:06] <h3sp4wn> Led_Zeppelin: get http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.3.0ubuntu2_all.deb (install it with dpkg -i) then you can debootstrap dapper direct
[06:06] <dapper_drake_ins> I did the CD check thing and they are corrupted
[06:06] <Elops> fatalblu, why not?
[06:06] <dapper_drake_ins> whats the probability the image I DL'ed is corrupt?
[06:06] <glxblt> Is the old installer still available on the desktop image?
[06:07] <bego> hello
[06:07] <fatalblu> Elops: because it'll probably break everything, i found that out the hard way
[06:07] <jra> Elops: debian is not ubuntu, it just won't work
[06:07] <snowblink> dapper_drake_ins, did you md5 it?
[06:07] <bego> wat'n  your name
[06:07] <muszek> dapper_drake_ins: check md5
[06:07] <bur[n] er> glxblt: no, that's what "alternative" is
[06:07] <dapper_drake_ins> yes, I assume its going to fail
[06:07] <paulproteus> dapper_drake_ins, It could be corrupt.
[06:07] <bego> how
[06:07] <chmod775> I am facing problems with gnome power manager anyone has a fix for this. The icon does'nt change when I switch from AC to battery and vice versa. So, if I am on battery and still it shows the charging icon and then when the battery power is almost zero it shuts off without warning. Any help on this would be appreciated
[06:07] <Hobbsee> bego: this is a suppor channel.
[06:07] <paulproteus> You should try running bittorrent on your image.
[06:07] <Hobbsee> bego: this is a support channel.  It is not a social channel
[06:07] <paulproteus> Bittorrent will fix any broken chunks without having to redownload the whole thing.
[06:08] <dapper_drake_ins> hmm
[06:08] <Elops> Ubuntu and Debian are NOT binary-compatible?
[06:08] <bego> tenihau
[06:08] <bbrazil> Elops: no
[06:08] <dapper_drake_ins> ...interesting idea
[06:08] <spikeb> elate, indeed
[06:08] <paulproteus> Elops, They're not dependency-compatible.
[06:08] <jra> Elops: their packages are not
[06:08] <Celestar> binary compatible?
[06:08] <bbrazil> Elops: i.e. not compatible
[06:08] <bego> flipinoutttt
[06:08] <dapper_drake_ins> thanks
[06:08] <chmod775> I am facing problems with gnome power manager anyone has a fix for this. The icon does'nt change when I switch from AC to battery and vice versa. So, if I am on battery and still it shows the charging icon and then when the battery power is almost zero it shuts off without warning. Any help on this would be appreciated
[06:08] <visik7> but  they are source compatible
[06:08] <Celestar> that's not really the corrent term
[06:08] <paulproteus> At least, there's no guarantee of dependency compatibility.
[06:08] <chmod775> Any one facing problems with power manager
[06:08] <ohzie> Hello! My x-server broke! :) The error is..."Fatal server error: No screens found."
[06:08] <bego> thanks
[06:09] <glxblt> I can't change the resolution to anything else than 640x480 on the live-cd. xorg.conf shows that my monitor and display driver is being detected correctly, however ctrl+alt+numpad+/- don't do nothing.
[06:09] <Celestar> hell
[06:09] <Celestar> the yp server timeout is loooooooooooong
[06:09] <tubbie> where is ld.so.conf??
[06:09] <glxblt> also, the screen resolution -menu shows only 640x480 and refresh rate "-19579 Hz" :p
[06:09] <Celestar> (Waiting for 120 seconds now)
[06:09] <salman> bego: equals baka??
[06:10] <xiko> Is paste.ubuntu-nl.org|194.145.194.141|:80 offline?
[06:10] <tubbie> how do I add a lib dir to ld?
[06:10] <tubbie> !ld
[06:10] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tubbie
[06:10] <neoncode> Will ubuntu work with a SpeedTouch 330 ADSL Modem out of the box?
[06:10] <tubbie> !ldconfig
[06:10] <ubotu> tubbie: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:10] <paulproteus> Celestar, Yeah, it's a really really long time.
[06:10] <bbrazil> tubbie: /etc/ld.so.conf
[06:10] <bbrazil> tubbie: then run ldconfig
[06:10] <paulproteus> Celestar, You can probably ^C it.
[06:11] <chmod775> !power
[06:11] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chmod775
[06:11] <glxblt> /n
[06:11] <glxblt> oopsie.
[06:11] <Elops> ubuntu drives me mad, u have to d/l even the basic package for compiling for source. i mean, what's the point of linux if u can't even compile?
[06:12] <Celestar> paulproteus: I just wish too tell it to get NIS information via DHCP
[06:12] <bbrazil> Elops: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:12] <xiko> Hmm how can I be sure what version of Ubuntu am I using?
[06:12] <eigenlambda> there is no torrent for the dapper cd?
[06:12] <Shaezsche> ubuntu is dead to me if it cannot recognize my modem
[06:12] <stasislove> how do i do to load a module when ubuntu starts up? it loads wrong module and i have to write modprobe -r nvidia, and then load right module, how can i make int load right module rightaway?
[06:12] <fatalblu> Elops: browsing the web, writing documents, image editing, etc etc
[06:12] <dmb062082> Ubuntu. will not let me select a higher res then 800x600! added higher options in xserver-xorg
[06:12] <Shaezsche> linmodem.com doesnt even recognize it. is there any way?
[06:12] <tubbie> the file is not there
[06:12] <tubbie> :\
[06:12] <WarOfAttrition> you often need more than just build-essential, get the -dev packages that you need
[06:12] <bbrazil> Shaezsche: add it to /etc/modules
[06:12] <tubbie> !vmware
[06:12] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[06:12] <alanhs> !archive
[06:12] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, alanhs
[06:12] <fatalblu> statislove: add the module name to /etc/modules
[06:12] <Shaezsche> bbrazil, but how do i know what to add?
[06:12] <xiko> !version
[06:12] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type ''lsb_release -a'' in a terminal.
[06:12] <Shaezsche> it isnt even recognized
[06:13] <bbrazil> stasislove: ^
[06:13] <xiko> gotta love this bot ;D
[06:13] <FunnyLookinHat> !m4a
[06:13] <ubotu> FunnyLookinHat: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:13] <bbrazil> Shaezsche: oops, bad tab completion
[06:13] <Dkt> Is there any player that can play Winamp-Streams (Now I mean Video-streams, not audio). I have tried winamp itself (it hang itself up) and VLC doesnt view any picture, but do play sound. Any other program?
[06:13] <csko> i downloaded, booted ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso, how can i start expert mode?
[06:13] <fatalblu> mplayer?
[06:13] <ohzie> !upgrade
[06:13] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[06:13] <bbrazil> tubbie: then create it
[06:13] <Kiko0123> hello what is the difference btween desktop and alternate .iso ?
[06:13] <fatalblu> real men don't need a computer or irc client, they just chew on network cable
[06:13] <bbrazil> Kiko0123: alternate is a text-only installer
[06:13] <Kiko0123> altername = installation cd and desktop = live ?
[06:13] <salman> Dkt: maybe you have no codec available?
[06:14] <bbrazil> Kiko0123: all of them are live+install aiui
[06:14] <salman> look at properties
[06:14] <Kiko0123> humk
[06:14] <stasislove> fatalblu, there is a module there calld nvidia but its wrong, and i tried to write whole path there to the right module but it didt work, i suspect nvidia module is a link linked to wrong module, but where do  i find nvidia ?
[06:14] <MrKeuner> csko/ experts do not ask much questions :)
[06:14] <Dkt> salman, Probably.
[06:14] <Kiko0123> humk...why did they changed the names :P
[06:14] <xiko> hmm update manager says I have the latest version, but it is not Dapper for sure
[06:14] <csko> grr
[06:14] <tubbie> how do I install libcairo compiled with gcc4?
[06:14] <fatalblu> statislove: if you are daring you could rip it out of /lib/modules and put the right one in it's place
[06:15] <salman> Dkt, what is the format/video codec?
[06:15] <csko> how can i install with expert mode if i downloaded the Desktop iso?
[06:15] <Shaezsche> the video player that comes in ubuntu sucks
[06:15] <Dkt> salman, its .m3u
[06:15] <damo21> how do i go from breezy to dapper
[06:15] <another> is there a way to use "global" keyboard shortcuts in rhythmbox? things that would work even if rhythmbox is not in focus?
[06:15] <Grunt> hi, does anyone know if xgl is available for Dapper
[06:16] <stasislove> fatalblu, so nvidia link is in /lib/modules? i can just make a link calld nvidia poiting to right module there cant i ?
[06:16] <MrKeuner> Grunt/ no it is not
[06:16] <krazykit> Grunt: it is.
[06:16] <hypnox> Shaezsche there is more than one
[06:16] <salman> awww. it's a playlist format
[06:16] <kspath> !tell damo21 about upgrade
[06:16] <nosilver4u> i'm dist-upgrading to dapper, and it fails on lvm2 with this message: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb (--install):
[06:16] <nosilver4u>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 10
[06:16] <Grunt> is there a link for it or can i use apt-get
[06:16] <nosilver4u> any ideas?
[06:16] <EvilGrin> I've upgraded to dapper but my soundcard hasn't been setup correctly. Its a Soundblaster Live. What do I need to do to fix it?
[06:16] <jorgp> damo21: in /etc/apt/sources.list, change everything that says breezy to dapper, then do a apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:16] <salman> look at properties. what is video-codec?
[06:17] <Ademan> if I have dapper beta on this machine, and i've been keeping up with the automatic updates, do i now have dapper full?
[06:17] <Elops> what's the diffrance between edubunto and xubuntu and keubuntu
[06:17] <h3sp4wn> stasislove: You don't want to mess with /lib/modules - install nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules
[06:17] <hypnox> Ademan yes
[06:17] <joachim-n> what is 'breezy-updates repository' called in Synaptic's list?
[06:17] <Ademan> yay
[06:17] <nevchen> Elops,  kubuntu is with kde
[06:17] <frank_> Elops: kubuntu is with kde, xubuntu with xfce and edu is for schools
[06:17] <krazykit> Elops: ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde, xubuntu is xfce, and edubuntu is indended for schools/education
[06:17] <Dkt> salman, It cant find any info about that.
[06:17] <Grunt> Is Ruby on the Rails avaliable for Dapper (a version which is actually compatible)
[06:17] <Ademan> unfortunately pcma isnt working, haha
[06:17] <Howdy125> New partitioner is a nightmare :-o
[06:18] <PPower> jorgp: replace everything to its original and then run something that i will look up for you
[06:18] <Shaezsche> this is no where near as user friendly as windows xp, im sorry but ubuntu is at least 10 years behind winxp
[06:18] <fatalblu> statislove: locate nvidia, look for the object file in /lib/modules replace reboot
[06:18] <tubbie> damnit. I need a kernel compiled with gcc-3.4 :(
[06:18] <tubbie> how?
[06:18] <nevchen> Howdy125,  espresso?
[06:18] <stasislove> fatalblu, allright in /lib/modules in a folder there is the right module, but it is not the one loading, there must be another file somewhere else...
[06:18] <pc22> krazykit, whats cool with xubuntu?
[06:18] <Elops> what makes edubuntu unique?
[06:18] <PPower> tubbie: why?
[06:18] <kneskade> Anyone here who can tell my why my 6.06 desktop install cd fails after the first boot menu on my powermac G4 (agp graphics) (the screen show's nothing, and the cd spins down, and yes i have tryed "live video=ofonly")
[06:18] <jra> is that the same partitioner as with debian testing?
[06:18] <kspath> pc22: try it
[06:18] <Elops> apart that its edu?
[06:18] <fatalblu> Shaezsche: since when is a blue screen of death user friendly
[06:18] <ben42> which ldap-server you would recommend in a small environment? package slapd oder package ultrapossum-server?
[06:18] <issaker> hey all
[06:18] <Ademan> Shaezsche: care to back up your criticism?
[06:18] <tubbie> vmware need cairo2. and cairo2 is compiled with gcc-3.4
[06:18] <Shaezsche> i never see those
[06:18] <tubbie> :(
[06:18] <fatalblu> statislove: dunno, all modules should be in there
[06:18] <issaker> how do i install a package with .run?
[06:18] <stasislove> h3sp4wn, tried that did't work, now i compiled from nvidia.com and it works, but i have to load right module manually
[06:18] <joachim-n> what's the text file for repositories?
[06:18] <Shaezsche> ademan ubuntu doesnt recognize 1/3 of my hardware
[06:18] <PPower> tubbie: dunno
[06:18] <Elops> what makes edubuntu unique?
[06:18] <MrObvious> issaker: Which package?
[06:19] <Shaezsche> i shouldnt have to learn how to compile kernals just to use ubuntu
[06:19] <Howdy125> nevchen, I don't know what it's called .. lol
[06:19] <user1> oola
[06:19] <issaker> this game called tremulous
[06:19] <issaker> Mrobvious
[06:19] <user1> hello alll
[06:19] <nevchen> Howdy125,  desktop-cd or alternative-cd?
[06:19] <MrObvious> Probably the sh command
[06:19] <NoUse> !tell Elops about edubuntu
[06:19] <Ademan> Shaezsche: i havent compiled a kernel ONCE, and what hardware isnt it detecting?
[06:19] <fatalblu> Shaezsche you don't have to, why am I arguing? la la la laa laa laa , laaa lalalala
[06:19] <Shaezsche> well my modem for one
[06:19] <fatalblu> ^smurfs song
[06:19] <Howdy125> nevchen, desktop-cd
[06:19] <issaker> mrobvious the sh command?
[06:19] <rendo> Is Dapper totally pwnt?
[06:19] <Shaezsche> improperly detects graphics, none of the buttons on my laptop work
[06:19] <rendo> I'm burning the iso right now. :b
[06:19] <nevchen> ok it's espresso
[06:19] <nevchen> :-)
[06:19] <Shaezsche> built in webcam doesnt work
[06:19] <user1> 192.168.1.128 enter
[06:19] <Shaezsche> sd card reader doesnt work
[06:19] <Shaezsche> among others
[06:20] <salman> dkt: my suggestion is just using mplayer or xine instead of VLC
[06:20] <salman> :(
[06:20] <axisys> i have 5.10.. isee so many procedures for upgrade.. what is the recommnded way to upgrade to dapper
[06:20] <hypnox> Shaezsche contact your laptop manufacturer
[06:20] <PPower> nevchen: no longer. i think its ubuntu express
[06:20] <Dkt> salman, I will try :) Thanks.
[06:20] <fatalblu> http://127.0.0.1 is the best
[06:20] <Shaezsche> why? linux is NEVER officially supported
[06:20] <Ademan> Shaezsche: OH, its a laptop, you know the only reason laptops work under windows is because laptop distrubutors create SPECIALIZED distributions of windows preinstalled on their machines...
[06:20] <PPower> axisys: update your update manager and then choose check
[06:20] <EvilGrin> I've upgraded to dapper but my soundcard hasn't been setup correctly. Its a Soundblaster Live. What do I need to do to fix it?
[06:20] <Shaezsche> its an asus w5a
[06:20] <krazykit> Shaezsche: exotic/brand new hardware?  no surprise there.
[06:20] <salman> mplayer is good about error massage thing
[06:20] <abeck_>  which version of VNC do you guys think is best?
[06:20] <frank_> Shaezsche: two things still are lacking with Linux support: hardware support in cases the manufacturers don't release linux drivers or specs and proprietary software the publisher doesn't port to linux.
[06:20] <PPower> axisys: for updates in the update checker
[06:20] <hypnox> Shaezsche it will be once it starts hurting their sales
[06:20] <fatalblu> abeck_ probably freenx
[06:21] <jra> and that's not even vnc, haha
[06:21] <axisys> PPower: how do i go by update my update manager.. soryy newbie
[06:21] <frank_> Shaezsche: If you buy hardware with linux support in mind. Ubuntu is a dream
[06:21] <fatalblu> jra: i know lol
[06:21] <Shaezsche> it will never hurt their sales
[06:21] <hypnox> Shaezsche not with that attitude!
[06:21] <PPower> axisys: open synaptic and choose the refresh button. then choose mark all upgrades
[06:21] <Shaezsche> well where can i find directions specifically for the w5a to work?
[06:21] <Shaezsche> they dont exist
[06:21] <Madi> hi
[06:22] <JoeyB3> !nvidia
[06:22] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:22] <Madi> any1 from NL here or better rotterdam?
[06:22] <JoeyB3> !irc
[06:22] <ubotu> from memory, irc is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage or have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[06:22] <Ademan> Shaezsche: the "w5a" oh yes... of course...
[06:22] <PPower> !upgrade
[06:22] <hypnox> Shaezsche yeah probably not, whatever that is
[06:22] <h3sp4wn> stasislove: what version of nvidia drivers are you trying to install ?
[06:22] <Shaezsche> its an asus laptop
[06:22] <Shaezsche> everyone knows that!
[06:22] <fatalblu> not helping....
[06:22] <avalost> does anyone use a nextel phone / data cable with linuc here?
[06:22] <dontm> hello all, anyone know of a more up to date ubuntu on a laptop resource than tuxmobil?  it's a lil outdated.  any good reviews/info etc would be appreciated.  thanks in advance
[06:22] <gourdin> what is the dapper drake + 1 ?
[06:22] <avalost> err
[06:22] <avalost> linux
[06:22] <Coyctecm> how i can remove usplash?
[06:23] <stasislove> h3sp4wn, 8762
[06:23] <fatalblu> Good news! It's a suppository...
[06:23] <brandon_> happy dapper day!
[06:23] <ompaul> Shaezsche, no they don't, have you got a live CD?
[06:23] <PPower> everyone> to upgrade to dapper type https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades into your browser
[06:23] <yukonho> I've been following that with no success :(
[06:23] <Shaezsche> yes!
[06:23] <hypnox> lol type into browser, welcome to internets
[06:23] <h3sp4wn> stasislove: Thats the exact same one that is in the repos
[06:23] <visik7> Coyctecm: in /boot/grub/menu.lst remove splash from the commandline
[06:23] <WarOfAttrition> you are much better off doing a fresh install
[06:23] <jorgp> gourdin: edgy
[06:23] <Shaezsche> ubuntu is useless without modem support, to me anyway
[06:23] <stasislove> h3sp4wn, repos?
[06:23] <jra> I'm gonna install -server on hppa, just to be unique. :)
[06:23] <Coyctecm> visik7: doesn't work :(
[06:24] <ompaul> Shaezsche, and when you put your CD in does the screen actually come up?
[06:24] <dontm> yukonho: use http://www.dirtytechno.org/linux/sources.list instead of the source list url in the wiki
[06:24] <gourdin> jorgp: do edgy repo exists ?
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> !nvidia
[06:24] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:24] <jorgp> gourdin: no
[06:24] <visik7> Coyctecm: you need to remove for all
[06:24] <Shaezsche> yes ompaul
[06:24] <gourdin> jorgp: 'k, thx
[06:24] <PPower> h3sp4wn: i had trouble with those nvidia drivers. i would run nvidias script
[06:24] <visik7> or at least for the one you use
[06:24] <dontm> yukonho: just change gb to us if ur in the states
[06:24] <damo21> any advantage in a clean install instead of breezy -> dapper?
[06:24] <ubuntu_vishal> hi there
[06:24] <wobedragg> Anyone care to help me with an issue?
[06:24] <PPower> ok
[06:24] <ubuntu_vishal> no
[06:24] <bbrazil> wobedragg: just ask the question
[06:24] <anto9us> !ask
[06:24] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:24] <fatalblu> only if it's an issue of playboy
[06:24] <Chobo-Mog> Hey.  Could someone please help me with the Ubuntu installation?
[06:25] <kspath> damo21: You get to try the installer?
[06:25] <Chobo-Mog> Whenever I try and install Ubuntu it will always boot, and lead me through most of the installation process without a problem.  It does say that its setting up what seems like an endless list of components, and says [OK]  beside each.  However, after that the screen seems to refresh, and then just freezes on a blank, black screen.
[06:25] <zjohnson> silly question (but I did look at the ubuntu wiki for ans).. Can you just update the ubuntu 6.06beta to the full production dapper drake release?
[06:25] <sladen> Coyctecm: remote 'splash' from the kernel commandline
[06:25] <Chobo-Mog> It might be a compatibility issue with my hardware, since I had the same problem when I tried a friend's old Hoary Hedgehog CD last week, but it could be something completely different.  Any help would be appreciated ^___^
[06:25] <xiko> !disk space
[06:25] <ubotu> xiko: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:25] <hypnox> zjohnson yeah
[06:25] <Ademan> Schaezche: you only have 56k?...
[06:25] <Shaezsche> yes!
[06:25] <PPower> wobedragg: whats the prob?
[06:25] <h3sp4wn> PPower: I never would the binary blobs will be identical - if you need to possibly use module-assistant to rebuild the kernel module
[06:25] <Shaezsche> i live in the woods
[06:25] <Shaezsche> i NEED modem support
[06:25] <wobedragg> k, I was updating from breezy to dapper this morning, and my laptop was unplugged accidentally, I recovered but now I'm stuck here  dpkg --configure -a Setting up samba (3.0.22-1ubuntu3) ...
[06:25] <wobedragg> update-rc.d: warning: /etc/rc2.d/S91samba is not a link to ../init.d/samba or /etc/init.d/samba
[06:25] <wobedragg> update-rc.d: warning: /etc/rc3.d/S91samba is not a link to ../init.d/samba or /etc/init.d/samba
[06:25] <wobedragg> invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: /etc/rc2.d/S91samba
[06:25] <wobedragg> dpkg: error processing samba (--configure):
[06:25] <Chobo-Mog> My PC's parts are:  Pentium 3 866mHz, 384mb pc-100 ram, 290gb spread over two hard drives, Audigy 2 ZS, ATI Radeon 7500 64mb and an LG DVD+/-RW drive
[06:25] <wobedragg>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102
[06:25] <zjohnson> hyp: Just do updates as usual, no repo changes or anything?
[06:25] <ompaul> Shaezsche, I just saw your modem comment I point you at getting the actual windows driver for that modem - find out what modem it is by scouring the output of "sudo lshw" and stick the values for the modem into google, when you get it vack
[06:25] <wobedragg> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:25] <Ademan> Shaezsche: ouch...
[06:25] <wobedragg>  samba
[06:25] <chapium> !pastebin
[06:25] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[06:25] <kspath> !tell wobedragg about paste
[06:26] <fatalblu> !tell wobedragg NEVER to do that again
[06:26] <tubbie>  18:26:14 up  6:53,  9 users,  load average: 8.93, 3.32, 1.79
[06:26] <Shaezsche> i cannot ompaul, sudo commands? how would that work on a device not even detected by linux
[06:26] <tubbie> :S
[06:26] <Ademan> wobedragg: don't paste in the channel
[06:26] <PPower> h3sp4wn: the nvidia-glx one killed X permanently. the nvidia ones worked like a dream
[06:26] <PPower> wobedragg: yeah. i got booted off one day
[06:26] <EvilGrin> I've upgraded to dapper but my soundcard hasn't been setup correctly. Its a Soundblaster Live. What do I need to do to fix it?
[06:26] <ompaul> Shaezsche,  so your saying it does not start with the CD?
[06:26] <Shaezsche> vack?
[06:26] <h3sp4wn> PPower: They are identical look at the version numbers
[06:26] <anto9us> Chobo-Mog, detatch unnessary hardware and try disabling some features in the bios such as peripheral ports etc and try again, it may help you isolate the problem.
[06:26] <Shaezsche> i can install ubuntu, it just doestn recognize my modem
[06:27] <PPower> h3sp4wn: I dunno why. but as long as it works ;-D
[06:27] <Shaezsche> at all
[06:27] <dontm> good up to date ubuntu on laptop resource = ?
[06:27] <cara> Hi all
[06:27] <MrObvious> Shaezsche: Is it a winmodem?
[06:27] <Ademan> Shaezsche: what do you mean? download the windows driver on a windows machine, transfer it to your linux computer, find out the info as he said, then google for it and see if theres linux support
[06:27] <JoeyB2> !nvidia
[06:27] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:27] <cara> hmm
[06:27] <dontm> !laptop
[06:27] <ubotu> from memory, laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org
[06:27] <soundray> Shaezsche: Winmodems are the devil's. Get a decent external one.
[06:27] <Chobo-Mog> Ok, I'll give that a shot.  Thank you
[06:27] <OmniD> quick somebody make a trillian clone
[06:27] <jra> Shaezsche: quit it. either get supported hardware or bug the manufacturer to release free specs but don't go blame linux or any distibution for that matter
[06:27] <ompaul> !winmodem
[06:27] <ubotu> [winmodem]  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto for instructions on setting up your modem (including winmodems). Additional info can be found at http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[06:27] <damo21> does the dapper installer have an option for xfce instead of gnome?
[06:27] <Shaezsche> i dont know if its a winmodem!, the linuxant thingy doesnt even recognize it
[06:27] <h3sp4wn> damo21: Use xubuntu
[06:27] <rendo> Is it dialup?
[06:28] <Ademan> jra: he's not really criticizing anymore, its fine, we might as well help
[06:28] <rendo> If so, quit being cheap and get DSL or Cable.
[06:28] <cara> Hmm does anyone use a touchpad?
[06:28] <soundray> Shaezsche: it is a winmodem. Get an external one, or a PCMCIA one if you have to.
[06:28] <nollidj> any advice for an old machine (300 mhz pentium ii) and getting it to be more responsive?
[06:28] <WarOfAttrition> Shaezsche|  you are much better off just replacing it with an external serial modem
[06:28] <yukonho> dontm: thanks, that's all I needed!
[06:28] <MrObvious> rendo: He's only got dialup because he lives too far out in the woods.
[06:28] <damo21> is there a separate iso for xubuntu 6.06? is there such a thing?
[06:28] <rendo> Get Satellite. :P
[06:28] <Grunt> are there instructions for install Xgl on dapper
[06:28] <jra> nollidj: yeah, get rid of gnome.
[06:28] <stjepan> is dapper released?
[06:28] <ompaul> Shaezsche, ask the manfacturer -- fpr the info and I concur with WarOfAttrition
[06:28] <rendo> stjepan Yes
[06:28] <soundray> yes, Grunt
[06:28] <ompaul> stjepan, /topic ;-)
[06:28] <soundray> !tell Grunt about xgl
[06:28] <MrObvious> damo21: What do you mean a seperate ISO?
[06:28] <xiko> jesus i LOVE apt, it is the most amazing thing ever. Thats it, im keeping my old hd for games only. Im ubuntu for work forever now
[06:28] <Shaezsche> well my modem isnt the only issue, it also doesnt properly support the intel 915 integrated graphics
[06:29] <nollidj> jra: hmm, the xfce desktop just isn't put together as well, and this is supposed to be a desktop for people who aren't very computer-literate.  any other suggestions?
[06:29] <rendo> AFK installing Dapper :b
[06:29] <eXIstenZ> Can anyone send me his repos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 doesn't work.
[06:29] <pike__> damo21: well you can type server at bootup that will just install base and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <Shaezsche> detects it as 815 and gives me all kidns of issues
[06:29] <revmouse> nollidj, try using xubuntu, its an ubuntu system geared to be more lightweight
[06:29] <damo21> thanks pike
[06:29] <nollidj> revmouse: is this a separate distro?
[06:29] <issaker> can someone tell me how to execute a .run package?
[06:29] <gourdin> !kde
[06:29] <Ademan> Shaezsche: like what sort of issues?
[06:29] <PPower> xubuntu found at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release/
[06:29] <dontm> eXIstenZ: : use http://www.dirtytechno.org/linux/sources.list instead of the source list url in the wiki
[06:29] <nollidj> issaker: it is probably a self-extracting shell script.  try '/bin/sh blah.run'
[06:29] <cara> Was wondering if I could isntall ubuntu from the live cd
[06:29] <kspath> nollidj: generic advice, max RAM and min what is running on it  perhaps no X
[06:29] <Shaezsche> like it says LCD ON every 5 minutes
[06:29] <voraistos> sh xxx.run
[06:29] <damo21> i thought dapper was going to release an xubuntu
[06:29] <hazart> issaker: chmod +x the file and ./<filename> it
[06:29] <ompaul> Shaezsche, the importance of getting supported hardware, however that being said work on one issue at a time, now go find out about your modem
[06:29] <Grunt> Soundray: sorry whats does the !tell mean
[06:29] <revmouse> nollidj, well you can type server at bootup that will just install base and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <Ademan> cara: the dapper live yes
[06:30] <nollidj> hmm
[06:30] <PPower> issaker: just run it like a normal sh. ./(script)
[06:30] <eXIstenZ> dontm, that is for dapper?
[06:30] <dontm> eXIstenZ: : just change gb to us if ur in the states
[06:30] <nollidj> i guess i'll flatten and reinstall, then
[06:30] <Shaezsche> ompaul what is the sudo command?
[06:30] <DBO> !sudo
[06:30] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:30] <dontm> eXIstenZ: yes look at the url, see the word "dapper" in the comments? =-)
[06:30] <soundray> Grunt: it means that I asked the bot to send you a private message. Look around your IRC client, you should see it.
[06:30] <cara> guess I could go ahead an bunr the regular disk to a disk
[06:30] <ompaul> Shaezsche, look I am going to get the bot to message you all the info you want is there
[06:30] <eXIstenZ> dontm, oh yeah :)
[06:30] <damo21> YAYYY Xubuntu 6.06!!!!
[06:30] <revmouse> yay!
[06:30] <Shaezsche> lol
[06:30] <issaker> ppower thanks that did the trick what does sh do?
[06:30] <TheMadman> you can cheat on the live cd and type sudo setuser root
[06:30] <MrObvious> damo21: What do you mean a seperate ISO?
[06:31] <orangehaw> Help wanted: my toshiba M60-171 with resolution 1440x900 (wxga) produces startup sounds but no screen
[06:31] <Grunt> Soundray: brilliant thanks for the link
[06:31] <anto9us> nollidj, you can disable some gnome features such as animations and draw windows while draggin by using configuration editor
[06:31] <eigenlambda> lol... i love torrence...
[06:31] <damo21> MrObvious: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release/
[06:31] <PPower> issaker: sh is a shell that linux uses. a sh is a type of script
[06:31] <nollidj> ugh... is there a non-https access to wiki.ubuntu.com?
[06:31] <tbenita> hi, can upgrade to lts by chaging breezy to lts in the sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[06:31] <eigenlambda> now, to hope that ubuntu deals with my usb mouse properly
[06:31] <Ademan> the dapper install cd is limping along at 8kb/s (its a torrent too)
[06:31] <DBO> orangehaw, does CTRL + ALT + F1 get you a console?
[06:31] <dontm> tbenita: yes
[06:31] <ompaul> Shaezsche, please don't use that word it is derogatory
[06:31] <orangehaw> DBO: yes
[06:31] <nollidj> anto9us: already done... this is just dog-slow, more or less, and the idea is to change it from fat lazy dog-slow to middle-aged suffering from arthritis dog-slow
[06:31] <axisys> i get this error when running gksudo update-manager but it did not upgrade to dapper .. http://pastebin.com/751596
[06:31] <tbenita> ok thanks dontm
[06:31] <issaker> gahhhhh
[06:31] <hazart> Will, the dapper repository stay "stable" and not upgrade package versions? In other words, should i add any edgy sources to my list?
[06:32] <nzt> sorry bad request
[06:32] <DBO> orangehaw, can you put your gdm and xorg logs on patebin from me?
[06:32] <issaker> ppower, now when i install i get no write permission
[06:32] <anto9us> nollidj, if you can lay your hands on more memory that will make a big difference
[06:32] <KhZillu> whats this SMP PREEMPT kernel?
[06:32] <wastrel> well howdy everybody
[06:32] <stasislove> so if i have a module in a directory, there is no way to start it when ubuntu starts?
[06:32] <nollidj> anto9us: i've already hit this machine's maximum memory capacity
[06:32] <damo21> MrObvious: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release/
[06:32] <DBO> orangehaw, can you put your gdm and xorg logs on patebin for me?  (fixed dumb typo)
[06:32] <KhZillu> its the plain i686 but it hast the SMP PREEMPT tag on it.
[06:32] <nollidj> it's the cpu that's killing it, and it's an old laptop
[06:32] <PPower> issaker: what package is it
[06:32] <deus_> is is out?
[06:32] <orangehaw> DBO: there's no way to paste it on pastebin since i have no inet & screen yet ;(
[06:32] <issaker> ppower what do you mean?
[06:32] <Shaezsche> http://www.linmodems.org/ the scan modem tool here is broken
[06:32] <soundray> stasislove: there is -- you could add an insmod command to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[06:32] <anto9us> nollidj, if you have another HD kicking around you could configure a raid 0, that will speed things up
[06:32] <deus_> is dapper released?
[06:32] <hazart> Will the dapper repos. still contain new packages, or will there be a new one for edgy?
[06:32] <nollidj> anto9us: laptop
[06:32] <issaker> ppower its a game called tremulous
[06:32] <PPower> issaker: is it for java or a nvidia package.
[06:33] <nollidj> thanks, though
[06:33] <krazykit> hazart: it'll be fairly stable.  bug fixes and security fixes will be added, and there will be backports eventually.  for right now, there are no edgy repos
[06:33] <nevchen> deus_,  yeah
[06:33] <NoUse> deus_ read the topic
[06:33] <h3sp4wn> stasislove: just add it to the bottom of /etc/modules is the easiest way
[06:33] <dontm> just a fyi to the ops: dapperupgrade wiki page = typos on command lines and the url w/ the source list is down
[06:33] <DBO> orangehaw, ok, do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and when you select the driver, select VESA
[06:33] <PPower> issaker: right. try sudo ./blah.run. enter your password. you need to be in the folder where the run is
[06:33] <stasislove> soundray, i use insmod to start it, but when i reboot i have to do insmod again
[06:33] <MrObvious> Got it damo
[06:33] <orangehaw> DBO: I ran the xserver-xorg for the correct resolution, but nothings happens. Not even errors for as far as I can see
[06:33] <MrObvious> I keep d/cing
[06:33] <krazykit> hazart: edgy won't be started on for a couple weeks yet, i hear.
[06:33] <MrObvious> damo21: I think it's just one ISO for your architecture
[06:33] <soundray> stasislove: read my line carefully
[06:33] <Ademan> Shaezsche: what makes you say that?
[06:33] <antimoof> as http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 is being utterly thrashed, are there any mirrors of that file around?
[06:33] <hazart> krazykit: okay, but if i don't change my sources i will be stuck with gnome 2.14 and the current version apps that i have now?
[06:34] <stasislove> soundray, sorry
[06:34] <wastrel> oh i forgot dapper's out
[06:34] <PPower> issaker: did it work
[06:34] <Shaezsche> say what?
[06:34] <fatalblu> out like a boner in sweatpants
[06:34] <davidhouse> hi guys. how can i get apt to give me a list of the currently installed packages?
[06:34] <dontm> antimoof:  use http://www.dirtytechno.org/linux/sources.list instead of the source list url in the wiki
[06:34] <Ademan> Shaezsche: that the modem detector is broken
[06:34] <DShepherd> wastrel: forget no more! :-)
[06:34] <damo21> MrObvious: im just really excited because its the first ubuntu release with xfce as a separate release!!! Xubuntu 6.06!!!!
[06:34] <pike__> orangehaw: when you type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it should take you through a whole setup asking questions and stuff
[06:34] <to0om> hi folks, a question: why does the battery-panel in dapper always notify me that there are only 3 minutes left although the battery is almost full?
[06:34] <xiko> hmm how many packages to update dapper? right now m in number 195
[06:34] <soundray> Shaezsche: don't say lol when you should be saying thankyou
[06:34] <AlienX> davidhouse, dpkg -l
[06:34] <Shaezsche> oh, because when i dl it, it says the file is corrupt
[06:34] <wastrel> i just want my palm sync to work
[06:34] <DShepherd> damo21: :-)
[06:34] <Shaezsche> winrar wont open it
[06:34] <krazykit> hazart: um, yes... gnome 2.14 is the latest, you know.  you're not really "stuck" with it.
[06:34] <NoUse> davidhouse dpkg -l | grep ii
[06:34] <orangehaw> pike_: I know, did that
[06:34] <Jowi> orangehaw, DBO : if you get sound the xorg.conf should be configured somewhat right. i think it is the framebuffer that is not supported.  if you can, try to disable framebuffer in BIOS or in grub
[06:34] <Ademan> Shaezche: oh... lol
[06:35] <simp> emm... hello
[06:35] <issaker> ppower it says command not found
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> This channel is now about dapper  o.o
[06:35] <xcomputerman> ok, can someone give me a fast mirror? :)
[06:35] <davidhouse> NoUse, AlienX: brilliant, thanks.
[06:35] <krazykit> hazart: if you really want to be on the edge, wait for edgy eft to get it's repos started and migrate to that.
[06:35] <xcomputerman> all of them seem to be crawling.
[06:35] <simp> i have a little question
[06:35] <orangehaw> Jowi: i'll try that
[06:35] <hazart> krazykit: yes, it know, but i would like to have the 2.15.1 whenever it's released, if you know what i mean...
[06:35] <DBO> Jowi, you can also disable it in xserver reconfigure =P
[06:35] <issaker> sudo: ./tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run: command not found
[06:35] <AlienX> davidhouse, np
[06:35] <bbrazil> xcomputerman: use bittorrent
[06:35] <simp> if i try to boot it says error loading OS... :S
[06:35] <PPower> issaker: can we do private msg as it is getting a bit to crouded
[06:35] <xcomputerman> bbrazil: can't, i'm at work.
[06:35] <dontm> xcomputerman:  use http://www.dirtytechno.org/linux/sources.list instead of the source list url in the wiki
[06:35] <krazykit> hazart: hah, than wait for edgy.  you'll last a few weeks til' it's up :-P
[06:35] <jra> "a bit".. how cute
[06:35] <xcomputerman> dontm: i need an iso.
[06:35] <simp> h3sp4wn are you here anyway?
[06:36] <hazart> krazykit: okay, that's nice! I really love the simplicity og the ubuntu/debian package system :)
[06:36] <issaker> ppower sure
[06:36] <dontm> xcomputerman: bit torrent buddy heh
[06:36] <Ademan> Shaezsche: frankly, ubuntu is an absolute dream on desktops, but on laptops its a nightmare, i'm on a laptop now, it took me about 2 months to get it up (well, really i was butting my head up against a wall, it only worked because i switched from breezy to dapper)
[06:36] <xcomputerman> dontm: bittorrent not allowed here at work
[06:36] <ompaul> xcomputerman, waith until the weekend is over and it should be easier to get one
[06:36] <dontm> xcomputerman: u hard set on fresh install? why not just upgrade?
[06:36] <krazykit> hazart: just remember, edgy will by syncing with debian sid, and it'll be rather unstable at first.
[06:36] <jra> calling dpkg simplistic is funny
[06:36] <xcomputerman> dontm: because it is a fresh install :)
[06:36] <h3sp4wn> simp: What do you need ?
[06:36] <dontm> xcomputerman: oh work bummer
[06:36] <antimoof> muchas gracia, dontm.
[06:36] <Shaezsche> anyone know if cedega works with oblivion yet?
[06:36] <ro> Ademan: Set it up on two laptops no problem, I think it's pot luck really : )
[06:36] <Thib_G> Someone could give me linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-22-686 and the older version of nvidia-glx, please ?
[06:36] <simp> join #something can you?
[06:36] <dontm> antimoof: de nada
[06:36] <DBO> Shaezsche, no it does not
[06:36] <Jowi> DBO: yeah, but it should not be neccessary to set the server to vesa. most likely the correct driver is in use for xorg.
[06:36] <soundray> simp: have you got grub installed?
[06:36] <hazart> krazykit: it's just that i just switched my amd64 from gentoo to ubunty, and i am used to run breakmygentoo overlays, so i miss the edge :P
[06:36] <simp> yes i do soundray
[06:36] <Ademan> Shaezsche: I saw someone in a forum claimed to have been doing it
[06:37] <rendo> Question to the smart peoples!
[06:37] <RodrigoX> why "dont use dapper, use torrent"?
[06:37] <soundray> simp: is grub giving you the error?
[06:37] <joachim-n> the upgrade wiki page is wrong
[06:37] <anto9us> Thib_G, packages.ubuntu.com has all packages for all releases available
[06:37] <RodrigoX> my download in torrent is too suckz =X
[06:37] <indro> krazykit: edgy will by syncing with debian sid <- why do you know that?
[06:37] <dontm> xcomputerman: im assuming u tried all the mirrors on the wiki page?
[06:37] <rendo> With Nero Burning rom, burning the 6.06.iso to a DVD what format should I use so it's bootable so I can install the damn thing on boot frm disc?
[06:37] <xcomputerman> one by one, man. one by one.
[06:37] <krazykit> indro: because that's what they do.
[06:37] <DBO> Jowi, you are corect on that, I set it to VESA just to knock things as far down as I can then re-enable things one at a time
[06:37] <damo21> xubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso !!!!!!!!
[06:37] <olivier>  /msg ubotu upgrade
[06:37] <Ohzie> I have a question: How many people's update killed their system's x-server?
[06:37] <Thib_G> anto9us: No, there is only the last versions and kernels
[06:37] <tristanmike> rendo, did you download the cd or dvd image ?
[06:37] <Jowi> DBO: vesa always work :)
[06:37] <xcomputerman> best i've gotten is releases.ubuntu.com, actually
[06:37] <dontm> !upgrade
[06:38] <KhZillu> Ohzie I'll find out soon enough
[06:38] <ubotu> upgrade is probably Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[06:38] <jra> rendo: what format options you got?
[06:38] <rendo> There's a DVD image?
[06:38] <DBO> Ohzie, did you have manually installed ATI or Nvidia drivers?
[06:38] <krazykit> indro: that's how all the releases start, by syncing with sid, then going from there.
[06:38] <semq> update manager not working (1 file missing)
[06:38] <fiete> Hi! The graphical installer hangs on "configuring apt...". Any ideas?
[06:38] <xcomputerman> chugging at 170KB/sec
[06:38] <rendo> God dmanit :P
[06:38] <DBO> Jowi, thats the idea =)
[06:38] <xiko> I just edited /etc/apt/sources.list substituting breezy with dapper
[06:38] <hazart> krazykit: But maybe it's time to settle down for some stability after all :D - ubuntu really offers a bit of everything. The only thing i miss is the ability to select which features packages should come with. Like gentoo's USE flags.
[06:38] <tristanmike> rendo, yup
[06:38] <xiko> it is updating right now
[06:38] <tiger> I want a program to run when system starts up, how do I do that?
[06:38] <rendo> There was ISO, UDF and something else, guess I need the DVD image. :P
[06:38] <Ohzie> DBO: I did, but changing the driver back to vga doesn't help at all. Same error.
[06:38] <rendo> Bwahahha.
[06:38] <indro> krazykit: okay, thanks krazykit
[06:38] <rixxon> the movie preview in nautilus shows the middle of the movie?
[06:38] <DBO> Ohzie, what error?
[06:38] <Ace2005> i just updated to dapper and nvidia drivers won't work, i'm using nv at the moment
[06:38] <tristanmike> rendo, well, you can't burn a cd iso to a dvd if that's what your asking
[06:38] <AlienX> are there dapper dvd isos out?
[06:38] <ompaul> Ohzie, if you have ati or nividia you have to do that make ati work >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[06:38] <jlmr> hi
[06:38] <jlmr> i have a small problem
[06:38] <rendo> I sure can. :P
[06:38] <frank_> Ademan: well I you choose your laptop with linux support in mind, it must be easier setting it up. If you have graphics, sound, network and mouse working out of the box (I'm it's doable) it would be easier
[06:38] <rendo> It doesn't work though. :P
[06:38] <tristanmike> rendo, touche :P
[06:38] <hazart> would it be possible to switch a debian machine to ubuntu with dist-upgrade?
[06:39] <Ohzie> DBO: "No screens found"
[06:39] <Ace2005> Anyone else have any problems with nvidia after updating?
[06:39] <jlmr> when installing ubuntu, grub was installed to my MBR, and i dont want it there
[06:39] <rendo> I was fiddling in the bios wondering why it wasn't picking up.
[06:39] <AlienX> hazart, no you'll break stuff
[06:39] <rendo> OH well, download download download!
[06:39] <frank_> Ademan: although I must say I only tried Ubuntu on my desktop
[06:39] <krazykit> hazart: hrm, it used to be a supported migration path, but it might be easier to just reinstall
[06:39] <hazart> From 2.4 debian sarge to dapper drake LTS
[06:39] <DBO> Ohzie, do what ompaul said "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:39] <NoUse> AlienX http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/release/
[06:39] <ro> anyone know how to open an app in 8bit depth with regards to x?
[06:39] <krazykit> hazart: no, there's no supported path for that.
[06:39] <soundray> hazart: not with recent versions of Debian and Ubuntu
[06:39] <hazart> Bugger, it's a very hard machine to reinstall.
[06:39] <AlienX> NoUse, thanks
[06:39] <Soir> hmm, does ubuntu have XGL anywhere yet?
[06:39] <jlmr> now, my question is, if i backup my MBR using dd (446 bytes etc), can ntldr use it to boot ubuntu?
[06:39] <wastrel> !tell jlmr about fixmbr
[06:39] <NoUse> !tell Soir about xgl
[06:39] <Ng> Soir: it's in universe. see #ubuntu-xgl
[06:39] <xcomputerman> oh, there are dvd images?
[06:39] <xcomputerman> crap.
[06:39] <hazart> But ubuntu seems worth it.
[06:39] <DBO> thanks ompaul =P
[06:39] <xcomputerman> wish i'd known
[06:40] <DBO> Soir, #ubuntu-xgl
[06:40] <DBO> oops, Ng beat me
[06:40] <krazykit> jlmr: there IS a way to make ntldr do it, but afaik, it's a pain in the butt.  i'm sure it's around on google though
[06:40] <Soir> mm, just that it does; that's what I was asking ^^
[06:40] <hazart> the others laughed at me when i installed the first ubuntu server, but look whos laughing now :) LTS is great!
[06:40] <mada> heh, i figured it would a be a "break out the booze" attitude in here all day
[06:40] <mada> Dapper dominates
[06:40] <Soir> certainly not production ready
[06:40] <ompaul> xcomputerman, can you auto replace any swear words your likley to utter in irc with something more friendly please
[06:40] <krazykit> hazart: if you try to do that, i'll guarantee breakage.  but go ahead and try!  it'll be fun.
[06:40] <troytroy> hi need pkg to create virtual cdrom
[06:40] <DBO> mada, try mad tech support rush
[06:40] <hazart> krazykit: Hehe, no, it's an important production system.
[06:40] <xcomputerman> ompaul: err, what?
[06:41] <troytroy> like daemon tools in windows
[06:41] <DBO> troytroy, you mean an ISO?
[06:41] <mada> DBO: fair enough
[06:41] <jdmpike> bummer - no nxserver support
[06:41] <hazart> krazykit: to bad we don't have a spare machine for seamless migration. We really need SATA support in it soon, and that reguires 2.6 kernel.
[06:41] <neutrinomass> I'm going to buy some PCI ethernet cards... any advice as to Linux compatability ?
[06:41] <soundray> xcomputerman: don't play dumb, I saw it too.
[06:41] <troytroy> yes and make images
[06:41] <frank_> troytroy: you can mount iso directly. Or you can google for cdemu for a virtual drive
[06:41] <mada> DBO: i'll hang for a little bit and see if there is anything i can lend a hand at :)
[06:41] <xcomputerman> soundray: what did i say?
[06:41] <rendo> Hrm.
[06:41] <rendo> Is it quicker to go find a blank CD?
[06:41] <rendo> Or is it quicker to download the DVD iso :/
[06:41] <h3sp4wn> jdmpike: sevas has repos for dapper of freenx
[06:41] <hazart> krazykit: and debian unstable is just not the same as dapper LTS.
[06:42] <soundray> xcomputerman: I'm too posh and too lazy to repeat it to you. ;)
[06:42] <mada> rendo: find a blank cd
[06:42] <krazykit> hazart: i know.
[06:42] <com4> I have had trac on my server running fine for the past few months. I just dist-upgraded and now apache segfaults everytime someone hits a trac page.
[06:42] <jdmpike> h3sp4n, I have included a mirror to it, it just doesn't work for me....
[06:42] <h3sp4wn> jdmpike: Only difference from the breezy one is ssh has to be bound to localhost also
[06:42] <rendo> I probably don't have any left. :/
[06:42] <xcomputerman> "crap" is a swear word? or is someone seeing things?
[06:42] <Ng> neutrinomass: Intel ones seem to be pretty well supported
[06:42] <com4> [Thu Jun 01 10:41:03 2006]  [notice]  child pid 2521 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
[06:42] <mjmac> grr....  how do i get the Dapper boot CD to do rescue mode?
[06:42] <com4> That's the error
[06:42] <Ng> xcomputerman: it is
[06:42] <soundray> xcomputerman: yes, it is.
[06:42] <ompaul> xcomputerman, your one word comment in -- minute 39
[06:42] <jdmpike> h3sp4wn, what do you mean?
[06:42] <hazart> krazykit: got to go grab some coffe and start reading math, thanks for your support.
[06:42] <Ace2005> troytro; Try http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577 but its a kde app
[06:42] <stasislove> i dont remember who helpt me but i adden insmod /.... and it works perfect now, thanks!
[06:42] <davidhouse> what do the first two characters of each line mean in dpkg -l? i can't find the information in the manpage for some reason
[06:43] <ro> xcomputerman: no it isn't. Or maybe it's a cultur thing : )
[06:43] <mjmac> anyone, anyone?  bueller?
[06:43] <soundray> stasislove: you're welcome
[06:43] <ratorro> edjdh
[06:43] <neutrinomass> Ng: I suppose that they do not require propertiary stuff to work, then ?
[06:43] <xcomputerman> i'm like ...geez, are you guys uptight or what
[06:43] <ratorro> 3jheddd
[06:43] <orangehaw> Jowi: no frame buffer options in my toshiba laptop. I'm trying with the no stretch function now (since it's 1440x900) on wxga
[06:43] <mada> mjmac: wait ... who do you need a rescue mode?
[06:43] <lefty_2nd> mjmac - http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch08.html for info on rescue
[06:43] <ratorro> d3jffgejndfekdfyhegy43q2hdf
[06:43] <TheMadman> never buying ati agains
[06:43] <ratorro> djhfkgejghdyrzblfv
[06:43] <mada> mjmac: why*
[06:43] <h3sp4wn> jdmpike: try telnet 127.0.0.1 22 (if it is listening then you don't have the problem I did)
[06:43] <pike__> TheMadman: good plan
[06:43] <mada> TheMadman: good idea
[06:43] <jdmpike> h3sp4wn, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1076870#post1076870
[06:43] <Stormx2> Dude
[06:43] <hypnox> xcomputerman are you uptight about some people here being uptight?
[06:43] <Stormx2> I missed the dapper release!
[06:44] <Stormx2> :(
[06:44] <xcomputerman> hypnox: nah, i'm just astonished.
[06:44] <Frogzoo_away> TheMadman: agreed - ATI have lost the plot
[06:44] <mada> Stormx2: no you didn't ... its still in the same day :)
[06:44] <krazykit> Stormx2: it's not like you still can't download it though :-P
[06:44] <hypnox> xcomputerman well different strokes and all that
[06:44] <soundray> Stormx2: why, no, it's today, let's celebrate!
[06:44] <mjmac> mada: because when i upgraded my AMD64 box from breezy->dapper, it refuses to boot.  i suspect a lilo problem.  it loads the kernel, but then locks solid when it should be uncompressing/mounting the initrd
[06:44] <Stormx2> :D
[06:44] <Stormx2> Did shuttlesmurf come on IRC to tell us all?
[06:44] <bosco> so dapper official came out now
[06:44] <mada> mjmac: not a bad reason to need a rescue disk ... :/
[06:44] <Jowi> orangehaw: in /boot/grub/menu.lst you can add "vga=normal" as a kernel option (for example put it after the root=/dev/blah entry)
[06:44] <krazykit> bosco: yes, yes it did.
[06:45] <ompaul> xcomputerman, I am not uptight, I just want a G rated channel
[06:45] <bosco> what time did it come out ??? :) i had to work
[06:45] <ro> I have a program which will only run in 8bit depth, naturally I don't want to run everything in 8bit. Any ideas?
[06:45] <Jowi> orangehaw: "no stretch" sound good :)
[06:45] <orangehaw> Jowi: okay, i'll do that
[06:45] <apokryphos> Stormx2: yes, but not in here
[06:45] <sweetnjguy29> I thiought Linux was X windows rated
[06:45] <DShepherd> Stormx2: :-) never mind.. good thing dapper is still here
[06:45] <DShepherd> Stormx2: they told me no
[06:45] <DShepherd> bosco: yup
[06:45] <krazykit> bosco: dunno, several hours ago, i think.  it released when i was asleep
[06:45] <ompaul> bosco, now - 7 hours there abouts
[06:45] <jdmpike> h3sp4wn, if I try to ssh to 127.0.0.1 it just hangs... doesn't allow me to connect
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> jdmpike: Do you use ssh keys ? have you tried running sudo nxsetup ?
[06:45] <kspath> xcomputerman: funny part is I have seen people with their nickname being or containing the french or spanish words for excrement/feces.
[06:45] <Jowi> orangehaw: or vga=ask, that will give you some choices at boot
[06:45] <ompaul> kspath, tell me :-)
[06:46] <anto9us> ro, you can have another login and switch its resolution to 8 bit depth
[06:46] <jdmpike> h3sp4wn, I have tried running nxsetup, it fails though
[06:46] <Stormx2> Well shiver my timbers 
[06:46] <bosco> krazykit, you cant download it from ubuntu.com right now they are down for mantiance
[06:46] <bosco> :(
[06:46] <orangehaw> Jowi: no stretch didn't do the trick, trying the vga options now
[06:46] <Ace2005> how do you scroll up in a terminal, i'm trying to go up in Ctrl+Alt+F6
[06:46] <tRSS> i am unable to access this site http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 so that I can update my sources.list
[06:46] <DBO> jdmpike, if you ssh -vv 127.0.0.1 you might get a better idea where its failing out
[06:46] <Beginer> When I try to access my Windows partitions while I am using Ubuntu 6.06 Live CD I got error message that I can't access because it is not removeable drive.Why is that?
[06:46] <mjmac> ok, perhaps i am being a dolt, but i do not see a boot: prompt with this new dapper install cd.  i know how to use a rescue disk, normally.
[06:46] <soundray> Ace2005: shift-pgup
[06:46] <krazykit> bosco: orly.  well, lemme see if i have a mirror link handy, and then you can get a torrent
[06:46] <rendo> Is there any way to upgrade to Dapper without using the .iso file?
[06:46] <bosco> krazykit, ok thanks
[06:46] <Frogzoo_away> !tell bosco about torrent
[06:46] <soundray> Ace2005: doesn't work once you switched away from it
[06:46] <tRSS> is there any other place or way I can get the updated sources.list
[06:47] <voraistos> rendo yea
[06:47] <apokryphos> heh, channel keeps growing 8)
[06:47] <rendo> Omg, how :P
[06:47] <Ace2005> oh
[06:47] <Frogzoo_away> !tell krazykit  about torrent
[06:47] <DBO> rendo, yes, you can modify your sources.list
[06:47] <apokryphos> must be that /. influence in too
[06:47] <bosco> rendo,  just update your souces file
[06:47] <Ace2005> thanks for the info
[06:47] <xcomputerman> i can understand complaing about s*** or f*** (since i personally never use such words on irc myself), but man ... this one's pushing it
[06:47] <jdmpike> h3sp4wn, what do I need to do in my sshd_config to make it accept connections on 127.0.0.1?
[06:47] <Ace2005> i'll be back
[06:47] <neutrinomass> hello tuxmaniac :)
[06:47] <soundray> xcomputerman: you're offtopic now
[06:47] <bosco> Frogzoo_away, i know abourt torrents i use them on a daily bases
[06:47] <ro> anto9us: Actually it's an api, so I'll be spending most of the next few days logged into whichever session while I code, so I need something that won't cripple other apps.
[06:47] <apokryphos> rendo: yes, /topic
[06:47] <Frogzoo_away> bosco: did you read the pm?
[06:47] <jdmpike> DBO, it just says connecting to 127.0.0.1 port 22... sits there...
[06:47] <to0om> hi folks, a question: why does the battery-panel in dapper always notify me that there are only 3 minutes left although the battery is almost full?
[06:48] <lastnode> Yorgos, please turn off mp3 scripts in #ubuntu channels
[06:48] <DBO> jdmpike, are you sure your SSH server is running?
[06:48] <bosco> Frogzoo_away, yes and i got it
[06:48] <bosco> thanks
[06:48] <AskHL> Hello, is it possible to install Xubuntu with a regular Dapper ISO or should I download the separate Xubuntu ISO? The point is that want a non-Xubuntu install and a Xubuntu one, so if one ISO is sufficient then that'll probably save some time.
[06:48] <Yorgos> i am still here?
[06:48] <anto9us> ro, will be easy to switch between them, just a combined keypress
[06:48] <Yorgos> whoops
[06:48] <Frogzoo_away> bosco: cool
[06:48] <Beginer> When I try to access my Windows partitions while I am using Ubuntu 6.06 Live CD I got error message that I can't access because it is not removeable drive.Why is that?
[06:48] <soundray> to0om: it'll be a buggy ACPI implementation in your computer.
[06:48] <Yorgos> sorry
[06:48] <tuxmaniac> neutrinomass: Hi
[06:48] <revmouse> How do I get flash working in firefox?
[06:48] <jitu> anyone here help me please with wireless network card
[06:48] <jdmpike> DBO, yes - I am logged into it now from work...
[06:48] <DBO> !flash
[06:48] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:48] <mjmac> anyone?  how do i get a boot: prompt with the new Dapper install CD?  all i get is a menu "Start or install Ubuntu... etc."
[06:48] <Spec> AskHL: install as server
[06:48] <apokryphos> AskHL: you can go from ubuntu dapper -> xubuntu by installing xubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <xcomputerman> soundray: well, it went offtopic when I was making a comment about dvd images being available and my language came into question. :)
[06:48] <Yorgos> revmouse, i had the same prob
[06:48] <Spec> AskHL: and then do apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <Yorgos> it says u need flash player?
[06:48] <neutrinomass> AskHL: It is possible, you don't need an Ubuntu cd
[06:48] <AskHL> Spec, apokryphos , thank you.
[06:48] <revmouse> Yorgos, yep
[06:48] <h3sp4wn> jdmpike: add ListenAddress 127.0.0.1:22 (underneath the current ListenAddress line)
[06:48] <gr0> hi im a linux nub and im trying to setup a prism54 usb device using softmac, and i don't know how to open an .arm -___-;;
[06:48] <Yorgos> i have the same prob
[06:49] <soundray> xcomputerman: exactly, so let's stop that conversation here and now and get back on your DVD issue/
[06:49] <Yorgos> if u get a solution tell me
[06:49] <Yorgos> lol;
[06:49] <lefty_2nd> beginer try this link http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch05.html
[06:49] <AskHL> neutrinomass, I can do entirely without an ubuntu cd ?
[06:49] <ro> anto9us: Yeah, you're right, thanks. I guess I was hoping for a better solution though : )
[06:49] <leonel> DAPPER  ROCKS !!!!
[06:49] <to0om> hi folks, a question: why does the battery-panel in dapper always notify me that there are only 3 minutes left although the battery is almost full?
[06:49] <Spec> !install
[06:49] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[06:49] <soundray> to0om: it'll be a buggy ACPI implementation in your computer.
[06:49] <foodcoman> h3sp4wn: is a sharp one.  =)
[06:49] <to0om> i use dapper soundray
[06:50] <tRSS> how can I change my sources.list for dapper drake?
[06:50] <pike__> AskHL: when it first boots up type 'server' and hit enter. once the install is done it will drop you at a login prompt; login and type sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:50] <mada> this is a tad on the chaotic side ...
[06:50] <soundray> to0om: was it working before?
[06:50] <mada> i'm out
[06:50] <MariusDC> which program sould i use to open files with .chm extension?
[06:50] <anto9us> ro, you can have a nested login if that would be prettier
[06:50] <to0om> yes, with hoary and breezy soundray
[06:50] <to0om> and warty too ^^
[06:50] <Spec> MariusDC: run "file *.chm", what's it say?
[06:50] <AskHL> pike__, thanks to you too. Seems straightforward.
[06:50] <Big_T> hi
[06:50] <Jug> any way to use the old _good_ installer in Desktop CD ?
[06:50] <brotherJohn1234> MariusDC: xchm
[06:50] <neutrinomass> to0om: Please report a bug at http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs . Make sure you state exactly the model name of your laptop.
[06:50] <ro> anto9us: a nested login? How do I do that?
[06:50] <soundray> to0om: oh, that's strange. Have you done a cold reboot since you upgraded?
[06:51] <Big_T> got an installation problem, please read my post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1076892#post1076892
[06:51] <apokryphos> Jug: get the alternate cd
[06:51] <anto9us> ro, in fact, vnc may be a solution come to think of it
[06:51] <jitu> i can only send the packet thru my wireless card but i cannot receive it what must be the problem????
[06:51] <gr0> how can i open a .arm file?
[06:51] <to0om> ok neutrinomass
[06:51] <revmouse> when I run update-flashplugin, it says automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[06:51] <apokryphos> Jug: download links in /topic ; information about alternate: /msg ubotu alternate
[06:51] <to0om> yes soundray, a few times
[06:51] <jdmpike> h3sp4wn, added ListenAddress 127.0.0.1:22 to ssd_conf and cycled sshd - no joy
[06:51] <Jug> apokryphos: well I already have the desktop cd...no way to use other installer than that default?
[06:51] <ketsugi> Is there an Edgy Eft channel yet? ;D
[06:51] <apokryphos> Jug: that's right
[06:51] <Spec> ro: what problem are you looking for a solution?
[06:51] <apokryphos> ketsugi: no
[06:51] <ketsugi> Phooey
[06:51] <krazykit> ketsugi: not for awhile yet
[06:51] <Stormx2> Is the method for upgrading to dapper from 5.10 still replacing breezy with dapper in sources.list and dist-upgrading
[06:51] <Jug> pah
[06:51] <Jug> that new installer sucks
[06:51] <jdmpike> h3sp4wn, it is also listening to port 22
[06:52] <apokryphos> Stormx2: yup; /msg ubotu upgrade for more info
[06:52] <krazykit> Stormx2: yes, that's a supported method
[06:52] <Jug> old was much better
[06:52] <jlmr> does anyone knows how to move grub from MBR to root????
[06:52] <krazykit> Jug: than use the alternative installer
[06:52] <felipe_> ola
[06:52] <Jug> well yes I have to download and burn it..
[06:52] <apokryphos> Jug: why?
[06:52] <felipe_> q
[06:52] <peter> hey gurus: question about webmin
[06:52] <neutrinomass> to0om: Thanks a lot :) Please though do watch your e-mail. Developers will almost certainly have to ask various questions without which they can't really beat the problem ...
[06:52] <mjmac> hmm
[06:52] <DBO> jdmpike, are you running iptables?
[06:52] <Marsmensch> i found a device mit lsusb, how can i get more information about the chip and manufacturer
[06:52] <Jug> apokryphos: what why?
[06:52] <ro> Spec: I need to run something which will only run in X in 8bit depth.
[06:52] <apokryphos> Jug: why does it suck?
[06:52] <jdmpike> DBO, no I don't think I am...
[06:52] <felipe_> ola
[06:53] <jitu> ola
[06:53] <mjmac> so do i need the alternate cd to boot into rescue mode?  that seems stupid.
[06:53] <to0om> ok neutrinomass
[06:53] <DBO> jdmpike, erm, firestarter perhaps? =)
[06:53] <felipe_> k tal
[06:53] <JoeyB2> !flash
[06:53] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:53] <Jug> apokryphos: because it segfaults when it starts installing files...
[06:53] <gr0> how do i open a .arm file?
[06:53] <peter> i installed it via synaptic, but have no idea how to start it or use it if it is started
[06:53] <gourdin> any german ubuntu kde3.5.3 mirror ?
[06:53] <anto9us> ro, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xnest
[06:53] <jdmpike> DBO, no - no firewall either...
[06:53] <jtd> what is "wrong" with the new installer?
[06:53] <apokryphos> Jug: please compile a bug report, then.
[06:53] <DBO> jdmpike, ok... hrm, perhaps ssh just doesnt allow loopback?
[06:53] <soundray> Marsmensch: one way is to search the web. Note there's a device specific code in the lsusb output.
[06:53] <mjmac> jtd: no rescue mode that i can figure out, for one
[06:53] <DBO> jdmpike, try sshing to your external IP
[06:53] <felipe_> kien abla espaol
[06:53] <soundray> !es
[06:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:53] <jtd> hm.
[06:54] <ro> anto9us: Thanks, that's probably what I'm looking for : )
[06:54] <jtd> wow.  people on the internets can't spell even in Spanish.
[06:54] <peter> webmin doc says i should specify port to run it when installing, but synaptic did not asked me
[06:54] <anto9us> ro, xnest is in the repositories
[06:54] <felipe_> ola
[06:54] <AfterDeath> DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0
[06:54] <rendo> uh....
[06:54] <mjmac> whee splitzville
[06:54] <soundray> jtd: was there a mistake in ubotu's line?
[06:54] <DBO> MMMMMMMONSTERKILL
[06:54] <wastrel> yay
[06:54] <jtd> NETSPLIT AIE
[06:54] <ArthurDentN770> hi ppl
[06:55] <jtd> soundray: no, he said "kien abla espan~ol"
[06:55] <Stormx2> hiya
[06:55] <distanceisdeath> who here uses playstation emulators?
[06:55] <anto9us> afterdeath sent an exploit
[06:55] <indro> rofl DBO
[06:55] <anto9us> !ops
[06:55] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[06:55] <jtd> "kien" and "abla" not being words in Spanish :)
[06:55] <apokryphos> anto9us: ?
[06:55] <soundray> jtd: ah okay.
[06:55] <ArthurDentN770> could u explain me how disable touchpad in a laptop ?
[06:55] <fatalblu> AAAH SCROLLING DEATH!
[06:55] <zn> hi everybody,I installed nvidia-glx,but when I enable it.it display that the md5sum of xorg.conf has been modified .Does that normal??
[06:55] <ompaul> anto9us, he was klined
[06:55] <soundray> ArthurDentN770: use tpconfig (it's packaged)
[06:55] <dr_willis> ArthurDentN770:  mine has a button next to the touchpad. :P
[06:55] <gr0> how do i open a .arm file?
[06:55] <Marsmensch> soundray: thanks for help, good idea :)
[06:55] <Spec> ro: Yeap, a nested X is the best solution
[06:55] <anto9us> ompaul, ok, missed that
[06:55] <ompaul> apokryphos, the party was klined
[06:56] <soundray> Marsmensch: gern
[06:56] <apokryphos> yup
[06:56] <felipe_> olaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:56] <ompaul> !es
[06:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:56] <Raj_Yeruva> ??
[06:56] <damo21> Need more mirrors for Xubuntu!!
[06:56] <com4> I've got Apache2 installed with Trac and mod_python. My Django sites still work fine after a dist-upgrade, but the trac sites give me this error: [Thu Jun 01 10:55:22 2006]  [notice]  child pid 3170 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
[06:56] <jtd> is xubuntu officially supported now?
[06:56] <Marsmensch> soundray: oh :-P muss dann brauch nen anderen dongle
[06:56] <apokryphos> jtd: yes
[06:56] <neutrinomass> jtd: Yes.
[06:56] <jtd> lovely!
[06:56] <NoUse> jtd it was officially supported in Breezy too
[06:56] <orangehaw> Jowi: tried vga option, no stretch option. Any good ideas left?
[06:56] <Stormx2> Woo 
[06:57] <damo21> There is an Official Xubuntu 6.06!!!!
[06:57] <jtd> I didn't realize that.  thought it was still one of those "nifty side projects"
[06:57] <soundray> orangehaw: what graphics chipset?
[06:57] <felipe_> he
[06:57] <apokryphos> NoUse: nope, it wasn't.
[06:57] <neutrinomass> NoUse: Are you sure? I don't think so ....
[06:57] <felipe_> q
[06:57] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: it wasn't
[06:57] <bionic> just started with ubuntu, so what is Xubuntu?
[06:57] <ArthurDentN770> thanks
[06:57] <apokryphos> bionic: /msg ubotu xubuntu
[06:57] <NoUse> neutrinomass so what does supported mean?
[06:57] <jtd> bionic: Ubuntu using xfce instead of GNOME
[06:57] <fatalblu> bionic: xfce ubuntu
[06:57] <jitu> what is Xubuntu?
[06:57] <apokryphos> NoUse: supported means being in main
[06:57] <neutrinomass> bionic: It's Ubuntu with Xfce as a desktop environment
[06:58] <apokryphos> jitu: /msg ubotu xubuntu
[06:58] <NoUse> apokryphos ah
[06:58] <bionic> ok thanks guys
[06:58] <anto9us> !xubuntu
[06:58] <ubotu> xubuntu is, like, Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[06:58] <krazykit> to0om: we have the same laptop, same problem :-/
[06:58] <sindrum> anyone know why gdesklets doesnt start after a reboot?
[06:58] <jitu> !xubuntu
[06:58] <fatalblu> cholesterol free for your health
[06:58] <spikeb> the xubuntu torrent is going nicely, use that
[06:58] <kspath> sindrum: You did not tell it to?
[06:58] <neutrinomass> NoUse: Supported as in endorsed by Canonical. As in you-will-file-bugs-against-this-in-launchpad-and-might-get-them-fixed .
[06:58] <Ace2005> I have this error: Version mismatch between the NVIDIA X driver and the NVIDIA GLX module. X driver version: 1.0-8756; GLX module version: 1.0-8762
[06:58] <JoeyB2> !audigy
[06:58] <ubotu> audigy is probably muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.
[06:59] <sindrum> ok thanks i will look intoi this
[06:59] <soundray> sindrum: you have to add it via System-Preferences-Sessions
[06:59] <damo21> i like it better personally, less memory hogging, just as easy and nice on the eye
[06:59] <felipe_> ola
[06:59] <Ace2005> And X cannot start
[06:59] <Katu> what is xubuntu?
[06:59] <DBO> Ace2005, did you install Xgl at some point?
[06:59] <krazykit> Katu: uses xfce
[06:59] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: not the exact distinction, since butgtracker for universe/multiverse is launchpad too
[06:59] <Jowi> orangehaw: ok, so the framebuffer is not at fault at least. good. last thing is to follow the fixresolution wiki that is really good ( "/msg ubotu resolution" for the link)
[06:59] <apokryphos> Katu: /msg ubotu xubuntu
[06:59] <wastrel> ok why won't my palmsync work?  using gnome-pilot/evolution/usb
[06:59] <sindrum> k
[06:59] <fatalblu> Katu: ubuntu using xfce as opposed to gnome
[06:59] <Ace2005> DBO: yea i did but i never used it
[06:59] <anto9us> Ace2005, not ideal but getting the earlier driver will fix it
[06:59] <felipe_> ola
[06:59] <AlienX> heh, all the download servers are getting nailed
[06:59] <neutrinomass> apokryphos: Yeah, you're right. I couldn't think of something better ghough
[06:59] <jdmpike> DB0, connection refused...
[06:59] <Spec> I have a favour to ask for the greaterment of Ubuntu - Is anyone located in and/or around San Diego that would be willing to participate in Ubuntu Advocacy at a convention? Admission is free.
[07:00] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: things in MAIN are supported officially
[07:00] <neutrinomass> Hm.. what about "supported" as in "you can pay Canonical to help you out with it" ?
[07:00] <felipe_> ola
[07:00] <DBO> Ace2005, "dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1.0.8756+2.6.15.10-2_i386.deb"
[07:00] <DBO> Ace2005, "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1.0.8756+2.6.15.10-2_i386.deb"
[07:00] <jtd> I would try it, but it's kind of a pain in the ass that when you install packages it doesn't make icons for programs in xfce
[07:00] <BigMonkey> A sysadmin friend is trying to get some fiber channel storage to work.  Does dapper (or ubuntu) support fiber channel?
[07:00] <damo21> does xgl work with xubuntu?
[07:00] <ompaul> Spec, better to put that to the sounder mailing list
[07:00] <bionic> hmm.. https://www.xubuntu.org gets me to fridge.ubuntu.org?
[07:00] <jtd> ubotu, tell felipe_ about es
[07:00] <soundray> damo21, yes
[07:00] <apokryphos> damo21: #xubuntu
[07:00] <Spec> ompaul: i've been :p
[07:00] <fatalblu> i support fibre channel
[07:01] <Spec> ompaul: I'm going to hit up san diego linux user groups now, dont' know why i haven't already
[07:01] <fatalblu> i support the box as i walk out with it under my shirt
[07:01] <JoeyB2> !ac97
[07:01] <ubotu> JoeyB2: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:01] <soundray> damo21, apokryphos means #ubuntu-xgl I think
[07:01] <Spec> i tried colleges, and the san fran LoCo team, but no luck
[07:01] <ompaul> Spec, your working on your network ;-)
[07:01] <apokryphos> soundray: not necessarily; either is fine, really.
[07:01] <sindrum> great thanks for the help going to test now
[07:01] <Spec> :p
[07:01] <Spec> i'm from the other side of the country, it's hard to get volunteers :p
[07:01] <ketsugi> Hi, is anyone here familiar with getting Bluetooth working on Ubuntu?
[07:02] <kspath> Spec: which country? which side?
[07:02] <dontm> haha openoffice almost takes as long as ms office to dl/install lol
[07:02] <soundray> !bluetooth
[07:02] <Spec> USA/east
[07:02] <ubotu> [bluetooth]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[07:02] <jayrod06> wow, this place really filled up
[07:02] <soundray> ketsugi ^^
[07:02] <ketsugi> soundray: I've been using those guides
[07:02] <ketsugi> No help
[07:02] <fuffalo-> I used the free CD feature on the ubuntu site yesterday, will i receive v6, or will i receive v5?
[07:02] <to0om> krazykit: have you already reportet that bug?
[07:02] <ketsugi> I've got a problem with pairing my phone to my Ubuntu laptop
[07:02] <fatalblu> Jesus saves! All others take 2D20 fire damage...
[07:02] <DBO> fuffalo, you get 6.06
[07:03] <soundray> ketsugi: I found some helpful stuff about Bluetooth GPS elsewhere on the web.
[07:03] <felipe_> ola
[07:03] <fuffalo-> DBO ok, i just wanted to make sure I'd get 6.06 since i ordered it before the release ;p
[07:03] <salman> dontm: koffice is faster
[07:03] <mjmac> ok...  so i've determined that if you escape out of the graphical boot menu it takes you to the plain old text boot: prompt
[07:03] <sorush20> hi is there a ubuntu party going on in uk?
[07:03] <mjmac> however, entering "rescue" or "linux rescue" gives me a 'Could not find kernel image $foo"
[07:03] <BigMonkey> Does dapper (or ubuntu) support fiber channel?
[07:04] <soundray> sorush20: apparently not, unfortunately :(
[07:04] <sorush20> damn..
[07:04] <mjmac> BigMonkey: you're unlikely to get that kind of answer here
[07:04] <felipe_> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:04] <sorush20> where can I  get a couple of penguin costumes?
[07:04] <BigMonkey> mjmac: Where should I ask?
[07:04] <kspath> felipe_: please do not do that
[07:04] <DBO> !offtopic
[07:04] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:04] <soundray> mjmac: you should be able to see your kernel options if you hit Tab at boot:
[07:04] <mjmac> BigMonkey: it depends on the hardware, and whether or not mainstream linux supports that hardware.
[07:04] <sorush20> DBO: sorry, wrong tab
[07:04] <altprsona> im trying to find why i cant run nvidia-config as per a tut iv been reading, and googles not helping, where do i start?
[07:05] <fatalblu> sudo apt-get install penguin costume
[07:05] <mjmac> soundray: yeah, you would think so
[07:05] <mjmac> but no
[07:05] <mjmac> i'm downloading the server ISO
[07:05] <BigMonkey> mjmac: True.  That's beyond this forum?
[07:05] <Reaper> #natal
[07:05] <mikedep333> hey guys, if I add the universe components (to dapper), will it update official ubuntu packages with newer versions from universe?
[07:05] <mjmac> BigMonkey: if 2.6.15 supports the hardware, then Dapper probably does too.  yes, probably outside of here.  mostly newbs here.
[07:05] <ompaul> sorush20, ask in -offtopic or look on the website
[07:06] <mikedep333> I'm worried that it will replace stable packages with less stable ones
[07:06] <soundray> mikedep333: no
[07:06] <goteki> Where can I disable this darn away message after 10 mins or so?
[07:06] <nollidj> what version of ndiswrapper is bundled with dapper?
[07:06] <soundray> !tell mikedep333 about components
[07:06] <chrisbudden14> hey
[07:06] <BigMonkey> mjmac: Pardon my ignorance.  How can I see if 2.6.15 supports the hardware?
[07:06] <mjmac> BigMonkey: you can always just grab the kernel source and look at the docs/config options
[07:06] <DBO> mikedep333, universe is relatively stable and does not afaik replace any normal core packages
[07:06] <avarab> What will I notice once apt-get dist-upgrade -y finishes? I.e. what's new besides newer packages?;)
[07:06] <soundray> !info ndiswrapper dapper
[07:06] <Jowi> BigMonkey: check the hardware support page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:06] <mjmac> BigMonkey: or ask google.  :)
[07:06] <chrisbudden14> what is the name of the lamp package in dapper?
[07:06] <soundray> !info ndiswrapper-utils dapper
[07:06] <mikedep333> DBO: I have experienced a few crashes from universe packages
[07:06] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: (Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper), section misc, is optional. Version: 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 136 kB
[07:07] <BigMonkey> Thanks!
[07:07] <soundray> nollidj: ^^
[07:07] <anto9us> mikedep333, that only happens if you add repositories not belongning to the release which universe and multiverse do, you can pin versions if you add other repositories though
[07:07] <nollidj> soundray: thanks
[07:07] <jimcooncat> !lamp
[07:07] <nollidj> hmm
[07:07] <mikedep333> but anyway, thanks for answering my question on the replacements itself
[07:07] <mikedep333> anto9us: I see, thanks
[07:07] <visik7> what's the difference between cd and dvd ?
[07:07] <mjmac> visik7: one's a CD, and the other's a DVD.  the DVD has more packages on it.
[07:08] <Beginer_> Thanks lefty_2nd
[07:08] <goteki> How can I disable this pop up window with the inactivity/away message?
[07:08] <wasabi> Looking for a resource for CPU governing. I'd like to set a specific process to always preempt all other processes, and reserve 5% of the CPU at all times.  So a rogue process can be killed... etc
[07:08] <visik7> mjmac: which packages ?
[07:08] <goteki> watching a movie and it pops up after 10 minutes
[07:08] <eXIstenZ> I wonder why ff is kinda slow here, I heard there is some IPv6 fix to that
[07:08] <Beginer_> I got one more question.Can a Live CD store data on a HDD so I can get the same desktop look when I boot it again?
[07:08] <PHiSQuaRE> wooo, burning dapper, off to the ubuntu world
[07:08] <lefty_2nd> np beginer - had that page open trying to work it out myelf :)
[07:09] <Viaken> wasabi, you could renice it?
[07:09] <mjmac> visik7: i dunno.  "a bunch"?  i can't see any reason to get a DVD ISO unless the machine(s) you're installing to are on a really bad (or nonexistent) net connection
[07:09] <cth23> hi
[07:09] <TheMadman> yes beginer
[07:09] <anto9us> wasabi, renice will do that
[07:09] <goteki> anyone knows?
[07:09] <Beginer_> How Madman?
[07:09] <wasabi> I'd actually like to somehow reserve 5% CPU for root somehow, globally.
[07:10] <wasabi> So I can always SSH in, regardless of load.
[07:10] <ketsugi> Grr
[07:10] <DbD-> just sudo apt-dist upgrade for upgrade to drake ?
[07:10] <Viaken> Isn't there a way to set the default nice for programs a user starts?
[07:10] <DBO> wasabi, just renice your sshd to a lower value
[07:10] <anto9us> wasabi, I'm sure giving sshd a -20 will acheive the same thing
[07:10] <goteki> what's this annoying away message that pops up after 10 minutes
[07:11] <paul__> What is a good stable antivirus for ubuntu?
[07:11] <ompaul> goteki, in what the movie irc or something else?
[07:11] <goteki> im watching a movie and it pops up after 10 minutes
[07:11] <DBO> paul__, you dont really need an antivirus in linux
[07:11] <dieman> btw
[07:11] <kspath> paul__: apt-cache search keyword
[07:11] <dieman> anyone want to try downloading from here and tell me if its working ok for them?
[07:11] <Beginer_> Madman?
[07:11] <goteki> looks like it belongs to ubuntu
[07:11] <ompaul> paul__, you don't need one for desktop operations,  clamav if your serving files and mails to people
[07:11] <dieman> (hold on for url)
[07:11] <goteki> ah fuck this, this os gotta go...
[07:12] <dieman> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[07:12] <dieman> just trying to verify that ive not completely turned the screws down too far
[07:12] <anto9us> paul__, clamav is good, I only use it on samba servers though
[07:12] <StR> hi all
[07:12] <gnomefreak> Godfather-Off:  nm
[07:12] <dieman> (if your already downloading from mirror.cs.umn.edu, it will deny you, however)
[07:12] <kspath> !ompaul++
[07:12] <StR> anyone else having problem with firefox + flash?  my firefox crashes everytime i want to see a flash
[07:12] <paul__> Thanks.
[07:12] <Beginer_> I got one more question.Can a Live CD store data on a HDD so I can get the same desktop look when I boot it again?
[07:12] <lefty_2nd> beginer have to run the live cd as -persistant i think, someone correct me if im wrong - not had chance to try myself
[07:13] <Unenvarjo> hey, has any one had this problem: when installing dapper with alternate cd without network connection, the installation does not ask for username, only password?
[07:13] <Jeeves_> sweetnjguy29: Why not?
[07:13] <NoUse> sweetnjguy29 did you verify the download?
[07:13] <kspath> Unenvarjo: /ignore
[07:13] <Godfather-Off> gnomefreak ?
[07:13] <sweetnjguy29> How do you verify the download?  I downloaded it off of Bittorrent
[07:14] <kspath> Unenvarjo: sorry   typos
[07:14] <gnomefreak> Godfather-Off: nm i was gonna warn someone but ompaul got him
[07:14] <Unenvarjo> kspath :)
[07:14] <dieman> sweetnjguy29: bittorrent will automatically do so
[07:14] <sweetnjguy29> die: thats what i thought
[07:14] <Bluesman> i have a user in my system and he can't access updates...... i need help...!!!!!
[07:14] <dieman> sweetnjguy29: since it takes a hash of every part of the file and compares it to the torrent you have
[07:14] <DBO> sweetnjguy29, ok, what is going wrong with the cd?
[07:14] <Bluesman> .....
[07:14] <buzzed> so i am upgraded now.
[07:14] <tuxta2_> was going to put - export JAVA_HOME=/pathtoJre in rc.local , is that okay? or is there a better place for it? n00b using Dapper
[07:14] <anto9us> Bluesman, only those in admin group can install updates
[07:15] <DBO> Bluesman, what do you mean he cant access updates?  only root or someone with sudo powers can update the system
[07:15] <buzzed> still takes a long time to load metacity
[07:15] <NoUse> Bluesman you mean they can't run update-manager?
[07:15] <Guest971> hi, does the install cd will contain both, the desktop and server installations ?
[07:15] <sweetnjguy29> I burnt the CD using the ISO option on Nero Express (I also burnt two previous CDs using a different ISO burning program)
[07:15] <sorush20> where do I get the repositories again since source-o-matic is not working
[07:15] <highvoltage> root has landed!
[07:15] <Unenvarjo> but very nice, apparently the installation detects my integrated wireless card :)
[07:15] <Jeeves_> sorush20: archive.ubuntu.com
[07:15] <sweetnjguy29> Then, on reboot, it recognizes that there is a boot iso in the disk drive...hangs for about 2 minutes...then proceeds to Grub boot menu
[07:15] <gnomefreak> sorush20: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.com/751665
[07:15] <Bluesman> yeah.. he can't run update-manager....
[07:15] <sweetnjguy29> then into XP
[07:15] <gnomefreak> thats dappers repo list
[07:15] <jjroper> I have a possibly simple question.  It seems that my computer keeps getting slower with time.  Any simple tests or tweaks to figure out why?
[07:15] <DBO> Bluesman, he would have to be a member of the admin group to do that
[07:16] <buzzed> what is this Ekiga?
[07:16] <anto9us> jjroper, gnome-system-monitor will indicate what processes are taking up a lot of resources
[07:16] <gnomefreak> buzzed: its gnome-meeting with a new name
[07:16] <highvoltage> VoIP application.
[07:16] <DBO> buzzed, VOIP
[07:16] <WakoKnight> hi, does the install cd will contain both, the desktop and server installations ?
[07:16] <highvoltage> buzzed: used to be known as gnome-phone
[07:16] <Jeeves_> WakoKnight: No, they are seperate
[07:16] <Jeeves_> (aFAIK)
[07:16] <Unenvarjo> nevermind my recent problem: the problem apparently existed between keyboard and chair :)
[07:17] <GianLuigiBuffon> hi there
[07:17] <buzzed> is it worth installing... i never used gnome-meeting?
[07:17] <Bluesman> OK.. but i tried to place her in the ROOT group...
[07:17] <buzzed> i mean configuring
[07:17] <DBO> buzzed, i think its installed by default
[07:17] <Jowi> jjroper: at least you can see if the swap is used alot by issuing the command "free -m" (list in megabytes)
[07:17] <DBO> buzzed, if you have a voip provider its fantastic
[07:17] <WakoKnight> Jeeves_: So the CD I'll get from shipit won't contain the server install cd ?
[07:17] <Jeeves_> WakoKnight: Ehm, i believe not
[07:18] <GianLuigiBuffon> I've upgraded from Breezy to Dapper, but not flash and more stuff is not working.. i've tried to re-install flash from synaptics but stills bad... you know why?
[07:18] <gnomefreak> WakoKnight: i think they are only shipping the desktop cd
[07:18] <Jeeves_> WakoKnight: But i'm not sure
[07:18] <buzzed> what is a good voip provider to use with it?
[07:18] <WakoKnight> Ohhh ok, thank you for the information :)
[07:18] <JohnStax> help! how can I edit my xorg.conf ?? cant do it via su chmod :(
[07:18] <jjroper> Thanks.  If swap is used too little (possible), can I allocate more?
[07:18] <WakoKnight> Have a good day !!
[07:18] <fatalblu> JohnStax use sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:18] <anto9us> ubotu tell johnstax about sudo
[07:18] <Jeeves_> JohnStax: You should try editing with an editor :)
[07:19] <JohnStax> Jeeves_ gee thx ;)
[07:19] <SurfnKid> ta hell, my browser isnt working but my chat is
[07:19] <JohnStax> fatalblu : thx will try!!
[07:19] <SurfnKid> dith ith weird maanth
[07:19] <LinuxJones> buzzed, if your in US/Canada you can us use Skype for free till December for outbound calls.
[07:20] <JoeyB2> !sound
[07:20] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[07:20] <GianLuigiBuffon> I've upgraded from Breezy to Dapper, but not flash and more stuff is not working.. i've tried to re-install flash from synaptics but stills bad... you know why?
[07:20] <buzzed> would ekiga work with skype? skype has been a little flakey
[07:21] <jjroper> Jowi, Thanks.  If swap is used too little or too much (possible), can I allocate more or less?
[07:21] <Jowi> buzzed: skype is commercial and closed system
[07:21] <encompass> buzzed: no it won't but learn it... it is better
[07:21] <Orion_1> hi
[07:21] <SurfnKid> skype is gay, and its gonna get gayer
[07:21] <Orion_1> which one of Cds i should download.. desktop or alternate ?
[07:21] <frenkel> Orion_1: desktop
[07:22] <altprsona> from shell i su or sudo and try to launch a text editor, but it says it cant determine a display of cant communicate with display
[07:22] <Orion_1> but is desktop the livecd or the text mode installation
[07:22] <frenkel> Orion_1: it's livecd+install cd
[07:22] <buzzed> encompass: skype is better?
[07:22] <kermitX_> Orion_1: desktop is livecd and gui installer - alternate is like the old text installer.
[07:22] <frenkel> Orion_1: and it installs a lot faster then the text-based version
[07:22] <gnomefreak> desktop is livecd/installer  alternative is text based installer
[07:22] <gnomefreak> brb gotta change pcs
[07:22] <anto9us> altprsona, try gksudo
[07:22] <Orion_1> do they differ in content ?
[07:23] <tanek> hm
[07:23] <SurfnKid> hey tanek which part of Europe u from
[07:23] <frenkel> Orion_1: no
[07:23] <Jowi> jjroper: absolutely. but if you see that the swap is not used at all then you don't need to add more. that "free -m" should give you enough info to go on. "/msg ubotu memory" for a nice link on memory management
[07:23] <kermitX_> Orion_1: installed system should be the same.
[07:23] <tanek> SurfnKid: sweden, why?
[07:23] <SurfnKid> ah i thought so
[07:23] <C_REATIVE_> Does anyone know how can i fix it ?  mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:23] <dixie> hi guys
[07:23] <jimcooncat> I'd like to know if the livecd gui install does LVM, please
[07:23] <SurfnKid> cuz Telia is swedish :P thats why
[07:23] <altprsona> gksudo kate = cannot open display
[07:23] <JohnStax> it works!! I totally rocked my VI skillzz .. after more then 10 years ;)
[07:23] <kermitX_> Orion_1: if you're comfortable with the text installer from breezy, then it really doesn't matter too much. get the one with the fastest download speed ;)
[07:23] <JohnStax> thx all!!
[07:23] <tanek> i just rebooted second time using dapper... and i got kernel panic 6 times in a row
[07:23] <frenkel> jimcooncat: search next time, it doesn't support LVM
[07:23] <tanek> during hardware driver step
[07:24] <jimcooncat> frenkel, thank you
[07:24] <dixie> is possible to upgrade from previous release of ubuntu by apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[07:24] <tanek> very wiernd and annoying
[07:24] <Krpano> i cant find the msttcorefonts with synaptic....i have all the sources enabled tho.... :(
[07:24] <lastnode> dixie, of course
[07:24] <GianLuigiBuffon> dixie yes
[07:24] <GianLuigiBuffon> dixie I did
[07:24] <SurfnKid> Krpano :S
[07:24] <dixie> super, i will try it :)
[07:24] <kermitX_> krpano: did you update the package list after enabling the extra repos?
[07:24] <zjohnson> if you are already using ubuntu 6.06 beta will you just automatically update to ubuntu 6.06 non-beta or are they any special commands to run besides apt-get update && apt-get upgrade??
[07:24] <Sweet_kate> hey guys can i gently suggest me a shoutcast radio winamp-like player?
[07:24] <lastnode> Krpano, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is a good place to searc
[07:24] <lastnode> zjohnson, apt-get dist-upgrade is good
[07:25] <GianLuigiBuffon> lastnode... you know why flash and other stuff is working wrong when I've upgraded to dapper from breezy?
[07:25] <SurfnKid> Im not messing with my 5.10 setup
[07:25] <Amaranth> Sweet_kate: winamp-like? that'd be xmms
[07:25] <SurfnKid> took me long enough to get here I'll just leave it alone
[07:25] <Orion_1> i want the best way
[07:25] <lastnode> GianLuigiBuffon, there can be a few problems. try reinstalling?
[07:25] <Krpano> kermitX_ , yep ...
[07:25] <Orion_1> i am hesitating all day.. livecd or test installer ..
[07:25] <Krpano> lastnode , ill check it
[07:25] <Orion_1> uff
[07:25] <r0xoR> Sweet_kate, xmms is a trusty one for me
[07:25] <GianLuigiBuffon> lastnode, you mean to download the whole dapper, and formatting?
[07:25] <r0xoR> Sweet_kate, i've tried others but so far nothing has beat xmms yet
[07:25] <Orion_1> they said livecd had a problem
[07:25] <r0xoR> Sweet_kate, at least for me
[07:25] <lastnode> GianLuigiBuffon, er?
[07:25] <kermitX_> krpano: can you just use terminal? sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[07:25] <SurfnKid> xmms is nice Sweet_kate
[07:26] <Amaranth> Orion_1: livecd is the new installer (could have bugs, mostly works right)
[07:26] <ketsugi> This is weird
[07:26] <ketsugi> Can anyone try to ping this address: http://dirt-.blogspot.com/
[07:26] <GianLuigiBuffon> lastnote yeah... now I have dapper because i've upgraded from breezy... but just with apt... so how a "reinstall"
[07:26] <Amaranth> Orion_1: or did you mean tested?
[07:26] <PHiSQuaRE> the livecd is really really nice
[07:26] <ketsugi> I know there's a site there, but for some reason Firefox keeps giving me a 404
[07:26] <MrKeuner> hi, I have inserted alternate cd and, package manager has opened and I did an mark all upgrades && apply. is this all I have to do for an breezy2dapper upgrade?
[07:26] <Amaranth> ketsugi: remove the -
[07:27] <ketsugi> yes, but then I get the wrong site.
[07:27] <jrk29> Hi
[07:27] <kermitX_> ketsugi try http://dirt.blogspot.com/
[07:27] <zeelot> hello guys, i encountered a problem setting up my wireless, and here is the situation: i was a breezy user and my d-link DWL-650+ wireless card worked just fine, after i reinstall Dapper, somehow it doesn't connect to AP anymore, i can see clearly the driver's been loaded from lshw and lspci but it just can't work, i setup iwconfig also, is there anyone have any idea what might cause this to happend? thanks
[07:27] <zjohnson> ok, I am performing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:27] <Bugs> ketsugi: unknown host
[07:27] <Amaranth> ketsugi: and please don't post sites like that in this channel
[07:27] <lastnode> zjohnson, good man :)
[07:27] <Orion_1> i will try the text mode
[07:27] <Krpano> kermitX_ ....it wont work neither.
[07:27] <jrk29> Did multimedia codecs by mplayer, installed in /usr/lib/win32, stop working in xine with dapper? :-?
[07:27] <Orion_1> seems easier
[07:27] <ketsugi> Ubuntu doesn't seem to like the dash in the URL
[07:27] <ketsugi> but it's a valid URL
[07:27] <Amaranth> zeelot: any obvious error messages in dmesg?
[07:27] <ketsugi> and there's a site there which I can't get to :/
[07:27] <dmesg> hi
[07:27] <NoUse> zjohnson you only need to use dist-upgrade, upgrade and dist-upgrade is redundant
[07:27] <Avian00> can somebody tell me if the dapper repositories are down?
[07:27] <Bugs> ketsugi:  yes, remove the hypen and it works
[07:27] <r0xoR> hahahah, powered by blogger
[07:27] <anto9us> zeelot, does 'sudo iwlist scanning' show the ap?
[07:27] <ketsugi> Bugs: but it's the wrong site
[07:27] <dmesg> how can i become a ubuntu certificade?
[07:27] <SurfnKid> can ubuntu defrag?
[07:28] <ketsugi> that's someone else's blog
[07:28] <kermitX_> krpano: double check /etc/apt/sources.list and ensure the extra repos are enabled.
[07:28] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, ext2 and 3 don't need defragging
[07:28] <lastnode> SurfnKid, fsck?
[07:28] <ketsugi> dirt. and dirt-. are different sites
[07:28] <CHodapp> Ok, here's a common question. How are desktop, server, and alternate different?
[07:28] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, the need for defrag is a sign of a badly written filesystem
[07:28] <Bugs> ketsugi:  try this:::: ping dirt.blogspot.com
[07:28] <r0xoR> i.e. fat32 or hfs
[07:28] <CHodapp> r0xoR, that's what I tell people, but they keep on using those FSes...
[07:28] <zeelot> Amaranth: no error msg
[07:28] <ketsugi> Yeah, if I do that I just get the blogspot IP
[07:28] <SurfnKid> r0xoR,  does ubuntu have a heartbeat like NT? I just want my hard drive to last
[07:28] <ketsugi> if I try to ping dirt-. I get unknown host
[07:28] <Amaranth> Bugs: that site works but he is saying the site with a - really exists
[07:28] <zeelot> anto9us: no, no ap scanned
[07:28] <lastnode> CHodapp, point them to the download page, it's clearly defined
[07:28] <Avian00> keep getting "403 Forbidden [IP 85.133.25.8 80] " error when using apt or synaptic
[07:29] <jrk29> SurfnKid: heartbeat?
[07:29] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, stop thinking about NT my friend :)
[07:29] <dmesg> i want to be a ubuntu ceetificate
[07:29] <Avian00> are repositories down?
[07:29] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, i don't think you even know what you're talkin about :)
[07:29] <lmortiz> hola
[07:29] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, ubuntu is NOT going to "wear out your hard drive" faster than windows
[07:29] <dmesg> hola
[07:29] <r0xoR> !es
[07:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:29] <Krpano> kermitX_ , done, now it works......thx.. :D
[07:29] <SurfnKid> r0xoR,  the hard drive has a heartbeat on NT, just wondering if ubuntu runs on that principle,
[07:29] <whiter> doesnt ubuntu access the hard drive less than windows?
[07:29] <CHodapp> "heartbeat"?
[07:30] <whiter> because of the way it uses memory
[07:30] <SurfnKid> r0xoR,  I am no more NT on this box at least
[07:30] <Bugs> ketsugi:  no, it does not seem to exist.  Only the dirt.blogspot comes up in my browser
[07:30] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, yeah so stop thinking about it :)
[07:30] <defunkt> whiter: it access it differently
[07:30] <SurfnKid> lol
[07:30] <whiter> yes i know that
[07:30] <whiter> but less right
[07:30] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, i've been using linux for 7 years and programming for 12 and I ain't never come across a "heartbeat" for a harddrive
[07:30] <kspath> !FUD
[07:30] <ubotu> fud is, like, [FUD]  Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. A marketing technique employed by those who do not trust in the merits of their own product. Also Fair Use Day.
[07:30] <SurfnKid> just hate to defrag and ugh its nasty
[07:30] <ketsugi> Bugs: that's the problem... Windows can handle that URL
[07:30] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, sucker ain't alive ya know
[07:30] <ketsugi> I'm trying to figure out why Ubuntu doesn't want to (or Debian, I guess)
[07:30] <SurfnKid> ok
[07:30] <CHodapp> I have 2.4 GB drives that have been taking a daily beating for 8 years and not died
[07:31] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, hello! i already toldya... you don't need to defrag in ubuntu... that alone should save your hard drive some wear and tear
[07:31] <Bugs> ketsugi: Oh...well maybe windows resolves that URL into a proper URL ?
[07:31] <CHodapp> Usually if drives are about to die, you can hear the bearings going out
[07:31] <sorush20> I'm unable to upgrade since I keep getting the message that there was an error downloading the packages.. I'm using adept and kde and using safe upgrade..
[07:31] <defunkt> whiter: in terms of system processes?
[07:31] <r0xoR> CHodapp, scsi?
[07:31] <ketsugi> Can't be
[07:31] <jjroper> Jowi, my swap is unused, but my memory is maxed out...and unfortunately, I am not sure what "/msg ubotu memory" means....
[07:31] <ketsugi> all the *.blogspot.com URLs map to the same IP address
[07:31] <CHodapp> r0xoR, IDE drives on the way to the dumpster if I didn't take them
[07:31] <zeelot> i followed every steps listed on the ubuntu wiki, troubleshooting,but every information shows that my wireless card is configured and driver's been loaded, just can't scan my AP....
[07:31] <jrk29> jjroper: just type "/msg ubotu memory"
[07:31] <lmortiz> hola estais vivos alguien
[07:31] <ketsugi> Ubuntu just chokes on the dash and thinks it's invalid
[07:31] <ketsugi> oh well
[07:31] <Amaranth> SurfnKid: no defrag needed, the ext3 filesystem is smarter about positioning files on the drive
[07:31] <ketsugi> I'll post in the forums
[07:31] <SurfnKid> r0xoR,  sweet, so can I turn off my hard drive after like 5 minutes...
[07:31] <thoreauputic> Quick visit... swarm speed on torrent currently 5.7MB/s - I'm uploading at 90KB/sec and now I'm going to bed :)
[07:32] <Avian00> Anybody at all, I am the only one having trouble with the repositories?
[07:32] <CHodapp> Has there been any Linux filesystem that needed defragging? Even ext1?
[07:32] <Amaranth> thoreauputic: whoa
[07:32] <kspath> lmortiz: #ubuntu is english
[07:32] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, uhhh, yeah you can use power saver mode just like any other computer :)
[07:32] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: :))
[07:32] <anto9us> zeelot, iwconfig lists your device but without an inet address?
[07:32] <SurfnKid> Amaranth, right r0xoR  keeps saying that so thats cool
[07:32] <tRSS> i would like to apt-get dapper, but I just can't find what changes I need to make in my sources.list to achieve this. wiki tells me that i need to access this site: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666, but this site is not working. I would appreciate some help here.
[07:32] <Greyscale> Right
[07:32] <zeelot> anto9us:yes you got it
[07:32] <SurfnKid> r0xoR,  thats what i was wondering, in NT that was impossible cuz of the stupid HB
[07:32] <AskHL> jjroper, /msg sends a message. ubotu is the channel bot, which has a number of standard help commands. It'll probably send you a link where you can read the desired information
[07:32] <mike-e> !easysource
[07:32] <anto9us> zeelot, ifconfig I mean
[07:32] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:32] <wastrel> don't be sad
[07:32] <r0xoR> tRSS, please read the channel topic
[07:32] <GianLuigiBuffon> I have dapper installed.... upgraded from breezy.... downloading the desktop CD will fix the problems? or will better to re-install all?
[07:32] <Bugs> ifconfig /all
[07:32] <zeelot> anto9us: yes if config
[07:32] <Greyscale> Some one point me to a guide to using ndiswrapper on 6.06 please?
[07:33] <h3h_timo> i just updated!!! yes... but last time when i upgraded to the rc... after i restarted my ethernet was all messed up.. im afraid to reboot now lol
[07:33] <Amaranth> tRSS: basically everywhere your current sources.list says breezy you change that to say dapper instead
[07:33] <SurfnKid> tacowrapperNDIS my friends
[07:33] <thoreauputic> Oh that swarm figure is for the desktop CD by the way
[07:33] <SurfnKid> =D
[07:33] <willmc> ahhh what a lovely release of Ubuntu everyone! lets say thank you in this chat room to show our appreciation to all the hard work that has gone in to making this wonderful release :)
[07:33] <CHodapp> tacowrapperNDIS?
[07:33] <tRSS> thanks alot Amarnath! much appreicated!
[07:33] <SurfnKid> CHodapp, I had one of those this morning, it was good
[07:33] <Greyscale> I like taco's
[07:33] <MrObvious> Does 6.06 support writing to NTFS safely?
[07:33] <spikeh> good evening; Xserver is giving me an error because my graphics card is not supported
[07:33] <SurfnKid> hehe
[07:33] <lastnode> willmc, totally!
[07:33] <Amaranth> MrObvious: not without captiventfs
[07:33] <MrObvious> Or is it read only?
[07:33] <SurfnKid> MrObvious, no idea
[07:33] <r0xoR> spikeh, what kind of graphics card
[07:33] <CHodapp> I have a DWL-G510 that I use with Atheros . . . guess I'll find out if Ubuntu likes to read it
[07:34] <zeelot> auto9us: people from my country's community told me that sort hardware will encounter this kind of problem, that after upgraded from breezy to Dapper some hardware will malfunctioned
[07:34] <CHodapp> I'm used to setting up by hand anyhow
[07:34] <spikeh> ATI X850
[07:34] <MrObvious> Amaranth: Is that safe and can I apt-get it?
[07:34] <rob_> Hello there, I downloaded the linux package from the nvidia website. And i'm told to "Type "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run" to install the driver. " http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8762.html
[07:34] <spikeh> r0xoR: last time with kubuntu, it would give me prompt
[07:34] <r0xoR> MrObvious, that's a kernel issue and i doubt it
[07:34] <anto9us> zeelot, sorry to go through the obvious buy you've checked the wireless isn't disabled on your system?
[07:34] <spikeh> but this time, it doesn't
[07:34] <Amaranth> MrObvious: It's mostly safe and no, you can't apt-get it.
[07:34] <r0xoR> MrObvious, you'll probably either have to install a module or compile the kernel yourself with NTFS write support
[07:34] <funman> hi
[07:34] <MrObvious> Ok just asking :)
[07:34] <KhZillu> anyone have troubles with ndiswrapper and broadcom wifi? because I am.
[07:34] <MrObvious> I'll create a FAT partition then
[07:34] <spikeh> so I am not sure how I can configure my network adapter and download the ati xorgconf
[07:34] <r0xoR> spikeh, please answer the question... what kind of graphics card
[07:34] <KhZillu> with dapper that is
[07:34] <spikeh> ATI X850
[07:34] <SurfnKid> KhZillu, what kind of problem
[07:34] <spikeh> I have answered the question :)
[07:34] <Double_D> !upgrade
[07:34] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[07:35] <Amaranth> r0xoR: Captive uses FUSE, no kernel recompile needed. Just a download and install script.
[07:35] <Greyscale> Some one point me to a guide to using ndiswrapper on 6.06 please?
[07:35] <zeelot> anto9us: it's not disabled, lshw show it's on, i can ifupdown it and i can iwconfig it just nothing happend after configuring
[07:35] <h3sp4wn> KhZillu: Either install the correct firmware or blacklist brm43xx
[07:35] <mwe> what package provides gnome-window-decorator? apt-file can't find it :|
[07:35] <DBO> compiz-gnome
[07:35] <KhZillu> ah yes
[07:35] <reoffendr> anyone else having the installer hang while partitioning?
[07:35] <mwe> oh
[07:35] <h3sp4wn> KhZillu: You want to use the native driver if you can
[07:35] <KhZillu> blacklist bcm43xx
[07:35] <Viaken> Dapper in one line: sudo sed -i.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:35] <Greyscale> Some one point me to a guide to using ndiswrapper on 6.06 please?
[07:35] <Amaranth> mwe: please join #ubuntu-xgl for xgl/compiz problems
[07:35] <anto9us> zeelot, ok, the AP may have it's essid hidden and may not be issuing more leases, check its config
[07:35] <rob_> So my question is, where do I type this? Do I bring up a console? And how do I bring one up?
[07:36] <KhZillu> are they running native now without ndiswrapper?
[07:36] <Greyscale> Some one point me to a guide to using ndiswrapper on 6.06 please?
[07:36] <iNiku> is it just me or are the ubuntu sites totally swamped?
[07:36] <wastrel> rob_:  alt-f2 then type xterm
[07:36] <Greyscale> What are running native?
[07:36] <SurfnKid> !ndiswrapper
[07:36] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is probably a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[07:36] <spikeh> can someone please tell me how to get terminal up after xserver crashes
[07:36] <SurfnKid> Greyscale, not sure if that'll help or if its for the 6.06 but its worth a look
[07:36] <h3sp4wn> KhZillu: Yes but you need to install the firmware (using fwcutter) see the brc43xx page on the wiki
[07:36] <Amaranth> spikeh: ctrl-alt-f1
[07:36] <zeelot> anto9us: it's kinda impossible cuz my AP's Essid is at all time broadcasting....
[07:36] <Avian00> I guess I figured in a channel full of Ubuntu users that I might be able to find out if I was the only one experiencing trouble getting Dapper updates via the apt repositories
[07:36] <iNiku> anybody have pointers to the kubuntu desktop and alternative cd torrents?
[07:37] <Greyscale> Yay!
[07:37] <JPatch> anyone dealing with isolinux Disk error 05? (it's a start...)
[07:37] <r0xoR> spikeh, oh wow sorry, i totally missed that :)
[07:37] <spikeb> iNiku, sure, give me a sec
[07:37] <Viaken> bah...
[07:37] <Viaken> Correction.
[07:37] <Viaken> Dapper in one line: sudo sed -i.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:37] <JyZky> Can someone help me with installing ubuntu?
[07:37] <mjmac> aaaugh.  stupid busybox mount doesn't handle bind mounts
[07:37] <reoffendr> nobody has any thoughts on installer hanging during partitioning? SATA, ext3
[07:37] <DBO> Viaken, "gksudo update-manager -d" does the same thing
[07:37] <r0xoR> spikeh, Amaranth i've never heard of Captive or FUSE
[07:37] <NoUse> JyZky what kind of problem are you having?
[07:37] <Bugs> !POLL - What is your favorite CHAT client ?
[07:37] <ubotu> Bugs: okay
[07:37] <anto9us> zeelot, does AP show any wireless activity?
[07:37] <r0xoR> JyZky, uhhh, please just ask us a specific question
[07:37] <NoUse> !tell Bugs about offtopic
[07:37] <spikeb> Bugs, xchat
[07:37] <JyZky> its getting a error hdxc
[07:38] <JyZky> hdc
[07:38] <Amaranth> Bugs: xchat-gnome
[07:38] <h3sp4wn> mjmac: just use chroot then mount them normally
[07:38] <JyZky> when its installing it
[07:38] <jrk29> Bugs: telnet
[07:38] <mjmac> has anyone else successfully upgraded Breezy->Dapper using root-on-LVM?
[07:38] <gnomefreak> Bugs: not in here move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:38] <Amaranth> !fuse
[07:38] <ubotu> You can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here (It still is not safe) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:38] <mjmac> h3sp4wn: i need /proc in the chroot
[07:38] <spikeh> thank you; can someone please tell me how to configure a network in terminal? (setting the IP address, default gateway, subnet mask, and DNS server)
[07:38] <JPatch> Bugs, trilly when on Win. Gaim on linux
[07:38] <GazzaK> Bugs: xchat, but I kinda like Konversation
[07:38] <spikeb> iNiku, http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[07:38] <Amaranth> ubotu knows all
[07:38] <ubotu> Amaranth: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:38] <r0xoR> JyZky, ok you'll (probably) need to go write down the exact error it's giving you and then tell us
[07:38] <NoUse> JyZky how did you download the ISO?
[07:38] <Amaranth> hehe
[07:38] <zeelot> anto9us: no activity from this wireless..it's not even connected....iwconfig shows that it's AP not-accociated
[07:38] <Bugs> gnomefreak:  Not OT...ubuntu related question - need to find a GOOD one...
[07:38] <JyZky> ubuntu site
[07:38] <JyZky> NoUse ubuntu site
[07:38] <SurfnKid> r0xoR, SMART supports heartbeat, I thought it was the NTFS microsoft system.
[07:38] <gnomefreak> Bugs: its off topic
[07:38] <JPatch> Bugs: use gaim
[07:38] <SurfnKid> I just looked that up
[07:38] <NoUse> Bugs ubuntu *support* related questions
[07:39] <[zero] > Can anyone help me, Im trying to create a partiton on my 80GB HDD which has winXP installed on.. I want the partition to be just for storage (music, pictures blabla) so how would I make it??
[07:39] <ketsugi> Okay, next question!
[07:39] <JyZky> NoUse with firefox
[07:39] <NoUse> JyZky did you verify the download?
[07:39] <dmesg> i waana be ubuntu certificate
[07:39] <h3sp4wn> mjmac:  mount -t proc none /proc
[07:39] <r0xoR> [zero] , with fdisk or cfdisk
[07:39] <SurfnKid> dmesg, hey I want one too
[07:39] <JyZky> nouse what you mean verify?
[07:39] <h3sp4wn> mjmac:  after chroot /mnt/whatever /bin/bash
[07:39] <luis_> which video driver is recommended for XGL? the ATI one, or the fglrx one?
[07:39] <h3h_timo> does anyone know how to quickly remove all this extra software that is still here after i upgraded to dapper?
[07:39] <anto9us> zeelot, try unloading and reloading the driver module
[07:39] <NoUse> !verify
[07:39] <ketsugi> I used to be able to use Audacity, but now I get an error on startup: cannot initialize host audio I/O.
[07:39] <ubotu> from memory, verify is to check the integrity of your installation media, one way is to visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[07:39] <NoUse> JyZky ^^^
[07:39] <dmesg> SurfnKid :P
[07:39] <spikeh> will a network adapter auto configure itself if DHCP is turned on?
[07:39] <mjmac> ahhh...  /target/bin/mount --bind works too
[07:39] <Amaranth> [zero] : if you already have ubuntu installed use gparted
[07:39] <ketsugi> I've tried reinstalling Audacity, but no luck. Any ideas?
[07:39] <lotv> guys i need some help 1) installed ubuntu oem mode by mistake, how do i create new account with root priviledges?
[07:39] <SurfnKid> spikeh, should
[07:39] <CHodapp> yay for 352 MB/sec torrent downloading
[07:39] <JyZky> nouse what :D?
[07:39] <r0xoR> ketsugi, is your sound card working?
[07:39] <Amaranth> [zero] : you'll have to install it in synaptic
[07:39] <ketsugi> Yup
[07:39] <SurfnKid> CHodapp, you suck
[07:39] <ketsugi> Everywhere else sound is working
[07:40] <r0xoR> Chobo-Mog, mega BYTE/s ??!!!!
[07:40] <spikeh> SurfnKid: how would I configure it manually? setting the IP, default gateway, subnet, and DNS server
[07:40] <JPatch> anyone have problems with loading the live cd portion?
[07:40] <MrObvious> CHodapp: Because I'm seeding the torrent :ED
[07:40] <Amaranth> !wireless
[07:40] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[07:40] <cowbud> chodapp 352 MB/sec?
[07:40] <MrObvious> CHodapp: Because I'm seeding the torrent :D
[07:40] <SurfnKid> spikeh, is it wlan0 or eth0
[07:40] <r0xoR> CHodapp, that was for you
[07:40] <gnomefreak> SurfnKid: please chang eyour tone
[07:40] <Amaranth> hrm
[07:40] <spikeh> eth0
[07:40] <JPatch> *rather how to avoid such problems
[07:40] <lotv> 2)i get kernel panic when i use k7 kernel, it sais smth about apic, i have athlon64 cpu
[07:40] <spikeh> SurfnKid eth0
[07:40] <mada> lotv: i think that capability is disabled for OEM because companies don't want employees having root
[07:40] <SurfnKid> gnomefreak, dude im joking
[07:40] <[zero] > Amaranth: how would I make it so I can read and write off it from both ubuntu and xp tho?
[07:40] <SurfnKid> gosh
[07:40] <JyZky> NoUse http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ from there with firefox
[07:40] <Amaranth> [zero] : make a fat32 partition
[07:40] <DBO> lotv, disable ACPI and try again
[07:40] <NoUse> JyZky did you read the verify link ubotu posted?
[07:40] <Amaranth> [zero] : it might be called 'vfat' in gparted
[07:40] <zeelot> anto9us: okey i try this first
[07:40] <luis_> which video driver is recommended for XGL? the ATI one, or the fglrx one?
[07:41] <DBO> luis_, fglrx
[07:41] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, youre a genious... can you tell me... my internet is working fine now... and i just upgraded to dapper.. like 5 seconds ago.. will it be messed up if i reboot?
[07:41] <spikeh> luis_ only the fglrx seems to work
[07:41] <buzzed> anything i can do about the slowness loading the window manager?
[07:41] <JyZky> half of it
[07:41] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: shouldnt
[07:41] <luis_> DBO, right, thansk!
[07:41] <JyZky> nouse half of it
[07:41] <[zero] > I made a FAT32 partition in windows xp but It says it cant be mounted on ubuntu?? Amaranth
[07:41] <SurfnKid> spikeh, are you wired or wireless
[07:41] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, is there anything i can do if it does screw up?
[07:41] <spikeh> SurfnKid: wired
[07:41] <ifxx> hey @all ... has anyone set up the sgi performer under ubuntu??
[07:41] <Amaranth> [zero] : how are you trying to mount it?
[07:41] <mjmac> woohoo
[07:41] <spikeh> SurfnKid: but DHCP is turned up
[07:41] <jayrod06> hey guys
[07:41] <SurfnKid> oh
[07:41] <JyZky> nouse i dont get so far
[07:41] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: make sure its enabled in the networking menu
[07:41] <SurfnKid> mmm let me see
[07:41] <mjmac> apparently the dapper kernel setup didn't run lilo after installing the new kernel
[07:41] <spikeh> SurfnKid it is a wireless router but my PC is connected via wire to it
[07:41] <JyZky> nouse i get to the splash screen then press install or start ubuntu
[07:42] <JyZky> nouse then it loads kernel 100%
[07:42] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: what makes you think its not gonna work?
[07:42] <mada> mjmac: that'll do it
[07:42] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, it should be
[07:42] <mjmac> that was more work than it should have been.  :/
[07:42] <[zero] > Amaranth:  when I click to open it it comes up with "Unable to mount the selected volume."
[07:42] <mada> :(
[07:42] <SurfnKid> spikeh, let me look up a command really quick
[07:42] <JPatch> my desktop will not "mount root drive"
[07:42] <JyZky> nouse then its some root files and system they go OK
[07:42] <NoUse> JyZky back up, you need to verify that the ISO you download was downloaded properly
[07:42] <Anusien> oh man, dapper is [O] fficial now, right?
[07:42] <spikeh> thank you SurfnKid
[07:42] <Amaranth> [zero] : ok, let me get a link to the wiki page for this
[07:42] <apokryphos> Anusien: yes
[07:42] <spikeh> one last question: can someone quickly tell me the command to get the fglrx driver
[07:42] <mada> JPatch: like, just flat out won't mount the root volume?
[07:42] <spikeh> the website is very slow
[07:42] <SurfnKid> gnomefreak, see im helping people out, i just meant he sucked cuz he was hauling butt =D and im not :P
[07:42] <[zero] > Amaranth: thankx :D
[07:42] <JyZky> nouse https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse?
[07:43] <NoUse> JyZky no
[07:43] <NoUse> !tell JyZky about verify
[07:43] <JPatch> mada: nada. when I try to Boot first hard drive, I get an isolinux error
[07:43] <h4ch3r> edgy elf  gnome 2.16.1?
[07:43] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: most likely
[07:43] <DBO> edgy eft
[07:43] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, it is.. should i reboot right this instant?
[07:43] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: neither one exists yet, but yeah
[07:43] <JyZky> nouse not yet i need a md5 ^^
[07:44] <MrKeuner> hi, I have inserted alternate cd and, package manager has opened and I did an mark all upgrades && apply. is this all I have to do for an breezy2dapper upgrade?
[07:44] <h4ch3r> arrghh
[07:44] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: when your ready to reboot reboot make sure everything your working on is saved
[07:44] <NoUse> JyZky there is also a boot option when you boot off the CD to check the CD integrity
[07:44] <Amaranth> [zero] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[07:44] <apokryphos> MrKeuner: no, you have to mark the CD as a source
[07:44] <[zero] > thankx :)
[07:44] <jaars> anyone know about how to fix so that fglrx works in dapper? it worked fine in breezy but after upgrading it stopped working...only some mesa thingy whatnot
[07:44] <h4ch3r> download edgy elf?
[07:44] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, and it should all be fine?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: should
[07:44] <JPatch> mada: it seems to not recognize my hard drive at all...
[07:44] <NoUse> JyZky that link tells you where to get md5 sums
[07:44] <MrKeuner> apokryphos/ do i also have to switch breezy in the sources.list to dapper?
[07:44] <JyZky> nouse check the cd for efect something like that
[07:45] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, aight.. i guess we will find out.. thanks
[07:45] <NoUse> JyZky yes
[07:45] <mada> JPatch: is it a new install or upgraded?
[07:45] <h4ch3r> ubuntu edgy elf download?
[07:45] <JPatch> new
[07:45] <apokryphos> MrKeuner: you should, yes.
[07:45] <spikeh> what is the command to configure X server?
[07:45] <spikeh> xorgconf?
[07:45] <apokryphos> MrKeuner: and also make sure that you have ubuntu-desktop installed before changing any sources
[07:45] <DBO> spikeb, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:45] <DShepherd> does anyone have problems starting Muine?
[07:45] <Fee^> jaars: mine stopped working too, i fixed it last night by basically repeating the steps for the install on the Guide pages
[07:45] <DBO> spikeh, ^^^
[07:45] <spikeb> heh
[07:45] <spikeh> ty DBO
[07:45] <DBO> sorry spikeb you have a super clone
[07:45] <jayrod06> if anyone puts it on a macbook let me know hoqw it goes
[07:45] <andrejkw> Hey guys.
[07:46] <KhZillu> blacklisting the broadcom drivers worked. ndiswrapper works again
[07:46] <mada> JPatch: did you download the desktop iso with the live cd?
[07:46] <h4ch3r> I'm take download ubuntu edgy elf?
[07:46] <SurfnKid> spikeh, try "ifconfig eth0 down" then "ifconfig eth0 up"  to see if itll wake up
[07:46] <spikeb> DbD-, i saw that earlier, it's freaking me out
[07:46] <KhZillu> now installing the fwcutter...
[07:46] <jaars> Fee^, which guide pages? in the dapper forum general section?
[07:46] <r0xoR> jayrod06, i'm gonna put it on an iBook :)
[07:46] <spikeh> DBO, is that the command to run after I install the fglrx drivers
[07:46] <mada> JPatch: that is a live cd*
[07:46] <andrejkw> After Installing Xgl, Remote Desktop stopped working. How can I fix this?
[07:46] <r0xoR> jayrod06, but not a macbook :(
[07:46] <tristanmike> h4ch3r, edgy eft, not elf
[07:46] <Fee^> jaars: the page where the 'quick start guide' and such are..
[07:46] <jayrod06> roxor: :)
[07:46] <h4ch3r> sorry
[07:46] <JPatch> mada: yes I did. I tried it on a second computer and the disk works fine
[07:46] <spikeh> ty SurfnKid
[07:46] <Fee^> there's a section there on installing hardware 3d drivers
[07:46] <DBO> spikeh, the fglrx drivers will configure the xorg.conf on their own
[07:46] <GianLuigiBuffon> how can I re-install flash for working on Dapper???'
[07:46] <andrejkw> After Installing Xgl, Remote Desktop stopped working. How can I fix this?
[07:46] <spikeh> DBO last time I had to do it manually
[07:46] <tristanmike> h4ch3r, don't need to be sorry for being mistaken, I was just letting you know, that's all
[07:46] <SurfnKid> spikeh, not sure if this command would work too "ifconfig eth0 -dynamic"  as in dynamic ip but its worth a try
[07:46] <DBO> spikeh, then yes, that is the command
[07:46] <h4ch3r> tristanmike: download edgy efl?
[07:47] <iNiku> spikeh: ah, got through to the torrents finally :)
[07:47] <JyZky> nouse gimme som md5 checking tool
[07:47] <Ademan> what repository are the w32 codecs in?
[07:47] <mada> JPatch: boot with the ubuntu live and try to mount the hdd and see what happens
[07:47] <Amaranth> andrejkw: By turning off Xgl.
[07:47] <apokryphos> Ademan: /msg ubotu seveas
[07:47] <spikeh> SurfnKid last time, there was a command to edit a file where I put in the DNS servers
[07:47] <tristanmike> h4ch3r, download Dapper for newest release
[07:47] <NoUse> JyZky its already installed on ubuntu
[07:47] <andrejkw> Amarath: is there any way to get VNC Server working with Xgl?
[07:47] <mada> JPatch: i'm just curious if there might be a controller issue or if something happened when you installed
[07:47] <JPatch> mada: how exactly do I go about mounting the hard drive?
[07:47] <Amaranth> andrejkw: not that i know of
[07:47] <DBO> andrejkw, check compiz.net but I doubt it
[07:47] <h4ch3r> I'll edgy efl!!
[07:47] <NoUse> JyZky for windows: http://www.md5summer.org/
[07:47] <h4ch3r> 
[07:47] <hodak> join #ubuntu.pl
[07:47] <JPatch> mada: it hasn't installed yet
[07:47] <hodak> ups sory
[07:47] <SurfnKid> spikeh right, that one i dont know where it is
[07:47] <SurfnKid> !eth0
[07:47] <JyZky> nouse thats right windows :()
[07:47] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, SurfnKid
[07:48] <mada> JPatch: i thought you just said it was a new install
[07:48] <tristanmike> h4ch3r, eft e f t
[07:48] <pally> anyone use opera in dapper?
[07:48] <mada> JPatch: rgr, nvm ...
[07:48] <DBO> tristanmike, thank you =)
[07:48] <h4ch3r> tristanmike:
[07:48] <JPatch> mada: sorry bout the confusion
[07:48] <h4ch3r> edgy
[07:48] <mada> JPatch: ok, so you have the livecd booted?
[07:48] <h4ch3r> download?
[07:48] <mada> JPatch: no worries :)
[07:48] <DBO> h4ch3r, it hasnt even been made yet
[07:48] <spikeh> right, time to see if it works
[07:48] <tristanmike> h4ch3r, no, no download yet
[07:48] <Ademan> apokryphos: thanks, by the way, ubotu said "semi popular" is there an alternative? (when it comes to playing w32 files like wmv and wma?)
[07:48] <h4ch3r> ohh man
[07:49] <h4ch3r> 
[07:49] <apokryphos> Ademan: it's the most popular 3rd-party repository used here
[07:49] <SurfnKid> spikeh, maybe the configuration editor will point you to that, Im looking to see if the ethernet settings are there
[07:49] <tuxtheslacker> !ati
[07:49] <ubotu> ati is probably http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[07:49] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: edgy eft won't be out until october. also, gnome 2.16.x doesn't even exist yet
[07:49] <apokryphos> Ademan: and nope, there's no alternative for that.
[07:49] <JPatch> mada: it is not booted right now... it's running from THIS computer... only connection to the internet I have right now
[07:49] <r0xoR> Ademan, easyubuntu?
[07:49] <h4ch3r> !edgy elf
[07:49] <mada> r0xoR: i installed Dapper on my iBook G4, works like a dream and with the tutorial on the forums, my airport extreme works too :)
[07:49] <ubotu> h4ch3r: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:49] <SurfnKid> brb gonna eat
[07:49] <PHiSQuaRE> I'm moving from FC5 to ubuntu, what's a good resource for getting me started with the basics of a debian distro?  suggestions?
[07:49] <spikeb> edgy EFT
[07:49] <spikeb> heh
[07:49] <JyZky> nouse The File is empty???
[07:49] <h4ch3r> ehehe
[07:49] <r0xoR> mada, nice
[07:49] <JPatch> mada: rather, I'm installing TO this computer
[07:49] <h4ch3r> !edgy eft
[07:49] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, h4ch3r
[07:49] <JyZky> nouse file to check is empty
[07:49] <apokryphos> PHiSQuaRE: the wiki is pretty good, but unfortunately it's down at the moment because of the high traffic it's received
[07:49] <DBO> !fishing
[07:49] <ubotu> it has been said that fishing is randomly throwing !commands in the channel instead of using /msg ubotu command. Please dont fish for help. either !ask in the channel or msg ubotu < Knows Everything!> :)
[07:49] <Fee^> PHiSQuaRE: www.ubuntu.com :)
[07:49] <r0xoR> mada, can you give me the link to the forums?
[07:50] <Ademan> r0xoR: huh?
[07:50] <ketsugi> r0xoR: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185955
[07:50] <Ademan> oh wait thats that little program huh?
[07:50] <zaphod_> PHiSQuaRE: the official or unoffical ubuntu guides
[07:50] <mada> r0xoR: i noticed your mention of an iBook and had to say something
[07:50] <NoUse> JyZky are you sure you are checking the right file?
[07:50] <mada> r0xoR: yeah, just a minute
[07:50] <h4ch3r> !download edgy eft
[07:50] <ubotu> h4ch3r: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:50] <r0xoR> mada, yeah, much thanks...
[07:50] <JyZky> nouse Yes
[07:50] <DBO> h4ch3r, stop fishing at the bot
[07:50] <mada> JPatch: uhmm... lemme think
[07:50] <hazart> When do i need dist-upgrade? I have a dapper alpha release that i would like to bring to dapper final.
[07:50] <r0xoR> mada, i joined ppc and it was just you and airo and i was kinda bummed :)
[07:50] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: stop playing with the bot
[07:50] <apokryphos> h4ch3r: please investigate in /msg
[07:50] <Amaranth> PHiSQuaRE: If you have specific questions we might be able to answer them.
[07:50] <h4ch3r> !h4ch3r
[07:50] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, h4ch3r
[07:50] <r0xoR> mada, so it'll be nice to know that someone else on here has done it already :)
[07:50] <JyZky> nouse found
[07:50] <h4ch3r> ehehe
[07:50] <mcphail> PHiSQuaRE: www.debian-administration.org is useful for server stuff
[07:50] <JyZky> nouse my md5 is
[07:50] <h4ch3r> :)
[07:51] <GianLuigiBuffon> how can I re-install flash for working on Dapper???'
[07:51] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: you want to use the bot type /msg ubotu <factoid>
[07:51] <DBO> !flash
[07:51] <Viaken> !edgy
[07:51] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:51] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html
[07:51] <NoUse> JyZky what?
[07:51] <apokryphos> h4ch3r: please stop, it spams the channel and is distratcing :)
[07:51] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: Please stop playing with the bot in the channel.
[07:51] <h4ch3r> ok guys
[07:51] <h4ch3r> sorry
[07:51] <Viaken> Sorry >.>
[07:51] <JyZky> nouse this e2e5e0bfb2edffd2ce02dd77bda4558e
[07:51] <r0xoR> h4ch3r, you *can* msg the bot ya know :)
[07:51] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:52] <hazart> Will i need dist-upgrade to go from dapper alpha to dapper LTS release?
[07:52] <DBO> hazart, no
[07:52] <iNiku> if you need to play with ubotu, you can /msg it
[07:52] <h4ch3r> ahhh
[07:52] <PHiSQuaRE> Amaranth, I'm just mainly looking for package management help and what not
[07:52] <hazart> DBO: Ok, thanks. :)
[07:52] <mada> r0xoR: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142727 (the svn repository mentioned in the tutorial has been down for a couple months, so on page 5 of the topic someone posted the file you need and it works (its the one i used))
[07:52] <iNiku> oh :)
[07:52] <h4ch3r> i see guys
[07:52] <gnomefreak> hazart: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:52] <Viaken> hazart: There's no harm in doing so anyway.
[07:52] <r0xoR> mada, ok grea thanks a lot :) ... cheers
[07:52] <gnomefreak> or upgrade
[07:52] <NoUse> JyZky compare that to the md5sum file from the mirror
[07:52] <Amaranth> PHiSQuaRE: synaptic usually handles that
[07:52] <mada> r0xoR: very welcome ... enjoy
[07:52] <Jimmey__> "Since Ubuntu doesn't run any daemons that listen to the outside world by default (the postfix install only listens on localhost) there's no need for a default firewall.". Is there one anyway?
[07:52] <JyZky> nouse it was right
[07:52] <thug> did anyone installed dapper yet ?
[07:52] <nnacht> Hello, how can I get totem to play divx-movies?
[07:52] <h4ch3r> upgrade gnome 2.14.1 in dapper for gnome 2.15.2?
[07:52] <hazart> gnomefreak: Viaken: Okay, i'll go with dist-upgrade then.
[07:53] <thug> the official release ...
[07:53] <mada> r0xoR: i will warn that the driver is still in beta, so your wifi range isn't incredible but it does work
[07:53] <tristanmike> !tell nnacht about w32codecs
[07:53] <gnomefreak> hazart: just leave the sources.list file alone and you will be fine
[07:53] <thug> ?
[07:53] <r0xoR> mada, hmmm... by not incredible... will it reach the next room at least?
[07:53] <mada> thug: neg, RC a few days ago
[07:53] <gnomefreak> thug: yes they have
[07:53] <tristanmike> nnacht, you also probably need to install the totem-xine backend as well
[07:53] <pally> !tell pally about w32codecs
[07:53] <nnacht> tristanmike: I have already installed w32codes
[07:53] <AngryElf1> guys, I'm trying to setup ivtv which uses the hotplug system......none of the directories where the firmware is suppose ot be exists.......also, /etc/firmware.agent doesn't exist -- is there a packaeg i'm missing?
[07:53] <thug> gnomefreak and how is it like ? a lot faster then the previous one ?
[07:53] <hazart> gnomefreak: yes, it's almost too easy :D - gotta' love it
[07:53] <tristanmike> pally, use "/msg ubotu <factiod>" for privite encounters
[07:53] <nnacht> totem-xine is also installed
[07:54] <h4ch3r> upgrade gnome 2.14.1 for gnome 2.15.2 in the dapper draker?
[07:54] <JyZky> nouse HEY WTF
[07:54] <samu> I still can't update by pressing check
[07:54] <gnomefreak> thug: its the same as dapper has been
[07:54] <thug> gnomefreak or most same just packages upgraded ?
[07:54] <JPatch> mada: seems you have your hands full... any ideas on your end at least?
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[07:54] <nnacht> libdivx4linux is also installed
[07:54] <Adullix> slm arkada015flar
[07:54] <JyZky> nouse some mirrors got diffrent md5 than others
[07:54] <h4ch3r> helooo
[07:54] <JyZky> nouse whats the right one
[07:54] <thug> gnomefreak yeah very funny
[07:54] <Amaranth> nnacht: What errors are you getting?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> thug: dapper stable is the same as dapper rc
[07:54] <nanotube> nnacht, try installing mplayer to play things. totem ain't that great at playing various codecs :)
[07:54] <mada> r0xoR: oh yeah, i am just talking about on the outter limits of the wifi range it won't reach (i lost connection on campus where OS X would give me a very slow one) ... not too big of a deal and i think in the 2.6.17 kernel that issue is being fixed
[07:54] <hazart> How do i configure automatic updates on a server not running the update-daemon?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> thug: im not kiddin
[07:54] <Adullix> trke bilen kimse yokmu
[07:54] <Amaranth> nnacht: Can gxine play the files?
[07:54] <hazart> automatic security updates that is.
[07:54] <tristanmike> nnacht, what nanotube said, also you might want to try VLC as well
[07:55] <thug> gnomefreak is it better then the previous one ? breezy ?
[07:55] <h4ch3r> upgrade gnome 2.14.2 for gnome 2.15.2 in dapper???
[07:55] <r0xoR> mada, huh... yeah i always upgrade straight my own custom compiled kernel 90% of the time
[07:55] <h4ch3r> somewhere?
[07:55] <neighborlee> does anyone know approximately when ubuntu will have fulll LSB compliance ? ;-))
[07:55] <nnacht> vlc plays well, but I need totem to load subtiles
[07:55] <h4ch3r> some
[07:55] <h4ch3r> ?
[07:55] <gnomefreak> thug: i think it is but thats for you to decide
[07:55] <Adullix> slm arkada015flar
[07:55] <r0xoR> mada, i don't like being stuck with the distro kernel :)
[07:55] <mada> JPatch: i did a little looking into isolinux errors and most of them come from cd-rom drives and BIOS having issues with linux .... not so much with hdds, but i am still trying to find something
[07:55] <nanotube> nnacht, hmm, mplayer does well with subtitles, generally
[07:55] <Adullix> trke konu015fan kimse yokmu
[07:55] <mcphail> hazart: run a cron job
[07:55] <JyZky> Nouse some mirrors got diffrent md5 than others? what is right
[07:55] <h4ch3r> !upgrade gnome 2.14.2 for gnome 2.15.2 in dapper?
[07:55] <ubotu> h4ch3r: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:55] <r0xoR> Adullix, english please
[07:55] <JoeyB2> !lamp
[07:56] <thug> gnomefreak ok i will freak out too with it on gnome desktop ... i might gonna be a gnomefreak like you after :)
[07:56] <lucasvo> http://pastebin.com/751756
[07:56] <JPatch> mada: so it would be a good idea to swap a new cd-drive into this thign?
[07:56] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: gnome 2.14 is in dapper
[07:56] <PHiSQuaRE> The ubuntu startup screen is way too cool
[07:56] <h4ch3r> gnomefreak:
[07:56] <buzzed> so what's the verdict on Dapper? Yeah or Neah
[07:56] <hazart> mcphail: with what command, how can i specyfy that i only want updates from a specific repos? apt-get update && apt-get upgrade dapper-security or something like that?
[07:56] <JoeyB2> !apache
[07:56] <ubotu> apache is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:56] <JyZky> NoUse?
[07:56] <mada> r0xoR: yeah, the 2.6.17-RC2 has built in Airport Extreme support and it is getting better as the days go on, but with the standard dapper kernel, the thing on the forum makes it work like a godsend
[07:56] <h4ch3r> i upgrade 2.14 for 2.15 in dapper
[07:56] <h4ch3r> ?
[07:56] <lucasvo> I have problem with a tetex package, I can't download it (http://pastebin.com/751756)
[07:56] <JyZky> NoUse some got diffrent md5 than others
[07:56] <KhZillu> upgradding to dapper from breezy uninstalled open office
[07:56] <mada> JPatch: if you have it at your disposal, it might be worth a shot
[07:56] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: no
[07:56] <KhZillu> weird
[07:56] <hazart> h4ch3r: you can't 2.15 will first come in edgy.
[07:56] <r0xoR> mada, ok well then i'll probably just go the easy route to start off
[07:57] <h4ch3r> hazart: no
[07:57] <h4ch3r> is 2.16
[07:57] <JyZky> ffs
[07:57] <h4ch3r> edgy
[07:57] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: why would you want to use 2.15? there isn't really anything new in it yet and it's the development version
[07:57] <JyZky> ubotu ur bot?
[07:57] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: thats what he said
[07:57] <mada> r0xoR: i agree, i don't know how stable 2.6.17 is at the moment
[07:57] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, JyZky
[07:57] <h4ch3r> and?
[07:57] <DavidJaq> I'm having a horrible time getting Ubuntu to work on my computer... no matter what I tried I couldn't get my old computer to boot from CD, so I had to take out the hard drive and put it into my other computer, install Dapper Drake, and then put the drive back in my old computer
[07:57] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: while edgy is in development it will have 2.15
[07:57] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: thats if it is build with the dapper libs
[07:57] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: because 2.15 becomes 2.16 when it's stable
[07:57] <mcphail> hazart: the finer point of apt-get are lost on me. You could script a hack to replace /etc/apt/sources.list temporarily with the repos you want to use
[07:57] <h4ch3r> Amaranth:
[07:57] <jlmr> grub, and the find /boot/grub/stage1 tells me it is installed in hd0,4 but i think it is in MBR, or am not getting anything?
[07:57] <PHiSQuaRE> jesus, the ubuntu installer is FAR better than the FC5 installer, I have to say I'm quite impressed so far....
[07:57] <hazart> h4ch3r: yes, but you can select the edgy sources before it's stable, and get it that way.
[07:57] <JPatch> mada: alright, I'm gonna try that.  thanks for your help sir/madam!
[07:57] <h4ch3r> i use
[07:57] <JPatch> :)
[07:57] <h4ch3r> dapper
[07:57] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody can tellme a stopper program?
[07:57] <MetaMorfoziS> stopwatch
[07:58] <DavidJaq> but now ubuntu won't load up, it says 'mounting root' or something like that, then 'waiting on root' or something similar, then hangs and eventually drops to busybox
[07:58] <JyZky> ffs
[07:58] <paulproteus> MetaMorfoziS, I usually use kteatimer.
[07:58] <paulproteus> kteatime, rather.
[07:58] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: you cant not get gnome 2.15 on dapper
[07:58] <KhZillu> anyone know what this means? #1 SMP PREEMPT
[07:58] <mcphail> hazart: _but_ aren't all the updates on the stable branch from security???
[07:58] <MetaMorfoziS> thx
[07:58] <sally_> is there a version of automatix that works with dapper?
[07:58] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: ok then, wait a couple weeks and if you still want 2.15 switch to the edgy development versions
[07:58] <[zero] > Amaranth: Im a bit confused by the wiki link :/
[07:58] <Amaranth> sally_: probably not, but easyubuntu works with dapper
[07:58] <mada> JPatch: it's a sir ... name's Adam ... just reversed it ;) and you are very welcome, anytime :)
[07:58] <KhZillu> Linux cow 2.6.15-23-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT
[07:58] <bbrazil> KhZillu: first build from that tree, multi-processor, preemptive scheduling
[07:58] <jeroen__> hi
[07:58] <gnomefreak> sally_: dont use it
[07:58] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[07:58] <ubotu> [automatix]  unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[07:58] <h4ch3r> gnomefreak: ?
[07:58] <sally_> gnomefreak: why not
[07:58] <hazart> mcphail: I suppose, i guess i will just disable backports, multiverse and universe then.
[07:58] <h4ch3r> yes man
[07:58] <r0xoR> mada, how fast is your ibook?
[07:58] <KhZillu> even though it's not a SMP kernel?
[07:58] <h4ch3r> help me
[07:59] <gnomefreak> sally_: read above
[07:59] <r0xoR> mada, and how fast does ubuntu run on it?
[07:59] <mada> r0xoR: 1GHz G4
[07:59] <JyZky> nice help......
[07:59] <jeroen__> does anyone know what to do with this error (happens when i try to run glxinfo or compiz with Xgl (nvidia drivers)):
[07:59] <scifi> haha over a 1000 in here, anyone wud think something big happening today :D
[07:59] <paulproteus> mada, mine too! (-:
[07:59] <mada> r0xoR: faster than OS X
[07:59] <JPatch> mada: !niaga sknaht
[07:59] <boxemall> hi folks
[07:59] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: with what? gnome 2.15 will not run on dapper
[07:59] <bbrazil> KhZillu: that is an SMP kernel
[07:59] <boxemall> got a strange problem
[07:59] <r0xoR> mada, sweet, i figured
[07:59] <Amaranth> h4ch3r: If you want help on getting gnome 2.15 running on dapper you don't know enough to be using 2.15
[07:59] <h4ch3r> why
[07:59] <jeroen__> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[07:59] <jeroen__>   Major opcode of failed request:  148 (GLX)
[07:59] <jeroen__>   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)
[07:59] <jeroen__>   Serial number of failed request:  20
[07:59] <jeroen__>   Current serial number in output stream:  22
[07:59] <mada> paulproteus: w00t!
[07:59] <mcphail> hazart: you could try braving ##debian....
[07:59] <r0xoR> mada, lol... honestly OS X really didn't do it for me...
[07:59] <KhZillu> running just the regular 2.6.15-23-686
[07:59] <gnomefreak> h4ch3r: it wasnt build for dapper
[07:59] <scifi> so here goes guys, what the sudo apt-get command to install dapper ?
[07:59] <gnomefreak> jeroen__: dont paste please
[07:59] <saif> the sound i am getting from skype is all fuzzy and not understandable, did any1 here get it to work?
[07:59] <hazart> mcphail: yes, thank's for your help.
[07:59] <boxemall> i already searched the whole weg including the ubuntu forums and every wii page i could find
[07:59] <mada> r0xoR: yeah, Ubuntu runs noticably faster on it
[07:59] <r0xoR> mada, i like linux cuz of the variety of window managers... i can always set something up the way i like it perfectly
[08:00] <h4ch3r> ?
[08:00] <h4ch3r> why?
[08:00] <h4ch3r> why?
[08:00] <DavidJaq> anyone know what I can do to get my computer to run Dapper Drake if it won't boot from CD and crashes me to BusyBox when trying to boot Dapper that I installed by transplanting my hard drive in a better computer temporarily?
[08:00] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: i think im starting to look at h4ch3r as a troll
[08:00] <r0xoR> mada, sweet
[08:00] <boxemall> i got no sound at all
[08:00] <KhZillu> even the plain 686 has smp?
[08:00] <r0xoR> mada, well that's good news then :)
[08:00] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: me too
[08:00] <boxemall> finally i manged it to get sound under ubuntu
[08:00] <JyZky> amaranth
[08:00] <gnomefreak> you got it?
[08:00] <r0xoR> heheheh
[08:00] <madmike> dapper is release, the # is boiling :D
[08:00] <gnomefreak> ok
[08:00] <mada> r0xoR: agreed, i also like linux because i am a computer science major and its so nice for developing software on
[08:00] <boxemall> but now it is like a looped sound
[08:00] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: already handled :)
[08:00] <[zero] > what does this mean?
[08:00] <[zero] > sudo bash diskmounter
[08:00] <jlmr> can anyone help mewith a GRUB problem?
[08:00] <boxemall> only right channel
[08:00] <[zero] > woops
[08:00] <boxemall> nothing on the left
[08:00] <r0xoR> bye bye leet clutter
[08:00] <dxdemetriou> Is it better to make an upgrade from Breezy to Dapper from CD or with the Update Manager?
[08:00] <gnomefreak> i saw ;)
[08:00] <gnomefreak> i got lag
[08:00] <JyZky> Amaranth what is the right md5 for the ubuntu x86 desktop? cause some mirrors got other md5s than others
[08:00] <boxemall> this starts right away at login screen
[08:00] <paulproteus> dxdemetriou, Update Manager.
[08:00] <scifi> is it sudo apt-get update build ?
[08:00] <JyZky> gnomefreak what is the right md5 for the ubuntu x86 desktop? cause some mirrors got other md5s than others
[08:01] <DavidJaq> is there any way to load from the CD if it's in the drive and I'm crashed to BusyBox in the process of loading an aparently damaged install of Dapper?
[08:01] <boxemall> i did  not change anything hardware related
[08:01] <bbrazil> JyZky: some might have the release candidate rather than the release
[08:01] <madmike> jlmr, don't ask to ask... just ask ;)
[08:01] <midna> when i boot up the new install cd the screen goes black after the brown ubuntu startup sequence, the sound plays but no video
[08:01] <mada> i'm out! ... lunch time
[08:01] <jlmr> grub, and the find /boot/grub/stage1 tells me it is installed in hd0,4 but i think it is in MBR, or am not getting anything?
[08:01] <Amaranth> DavidJaq: i think it's mounted in the /mnt dir
[08:01] <[zero] > Amaranth: When I do the wget it times out :/
[08:01] <gnomefreak> JyZky: off hand i dont know look where you downloaded it from
[08:01] <fatbrain> How do I set the root pw in ubuntu?
[08:01] <boxemall> what i don't understand is that i just reinstalled. since then i have this problem
[08:01] <NoUse> JyZky http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/MD5SUMS
[08:01] <paulproteus> DavidJaq, Try using the memory test program that's on the CD.
[08:01] <JyZky> nouse its right with sweden
[08:01] <nekromaan> hello, is there  a good xgl tutorial for dapper drake 6.06 lts and nvidia cards?
[08:01] <midna> to set root do "sudo passwd"
[08:01] <Amaranth> [zero] : you'll have to do it manually, that wiki page tells you how
[08:01] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[08:01] <nanotube> !tell fatbrain about rootsudo
[08:01] <scifi> is it sudo apt-get update build  to update to dapper ?
[08:01] <DavidJaq> Paul, what'll that do for me?
[08:01] <JyZky> nouse its same md5
[08:01] <[zero] > alright thankx again
[08:02] <paulproteus> DavidJaq, It'll tell you if your computer's RAM is broken.
[08:02] <JyZky> nouse the e2blalablb
[08:02] <midna> sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:02] <madmike> jlmr, does it boot with the current configuration?
[08:02] <paulproteus> Broken RAM can lead to all sorts of weird problems.
[08:02] <boxemall> i got an ice1712 (dmx6fire) soundcard which worked flawless before
[08:02] <midna> when i boot up the new install cd the screen goes black after the brown ubuntu startup sequence, the sound plays but no video
[08:02] <midna> any ideas?
[08:02] <vermoos> Hi there, can anyone help sort this problem: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:02] <fatbrain> thanks
[08:02] <h3sp4wn> boxemall: What is the problem ?
[08:02] <Sweet_kate> how do i list my processes??
[08:02] <jlmr> madmike, yes, but i want it to boot with ntldr, the windows bootloader
[08:02] <boxemall> i already tryed to install dapper or any other linux ditro
[08:02] <r0xoR> Sweet_kate, ps ax
[08:02] <paulproteus> Sweet_kate, ps ax
[08:02] <boxemall> same problem
[08:02] <paulproteus> Sweet_kate, Try using the GNOME process lister.
[08:02] <r0xoR> Sweet_kate, or gtop
[08:02] <h3sp4wn> boxemall: What problem ?
[08:02] <deus_> is dapper released?
[08:02] <midna> vermoos: what is the problem?
[08:02] <boxemall> could anyone help me out
[08:02] <nanotube> deus_, yes
[08:02] <DavidJaq> I am actually using the computer right now. Using windows XP on the first partition... so if the RAM was bad, wouldn't windows be having problems as well?
[08:02] <tristanmike> deus_, yes
[08:02] <midna> boxemall: same problem with the black screen?
[08:03] <vermoos> midna: i get 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded, and i want to upgrade breezy -> dapper
[08:03] <madmike> jlmr, hmm i've got no experience with the ntldr...
[08:03] <deus_> yay
[08:03] <deus_> ...
[08:03] <h3sp4wn> ...
[08:03] <AnAnt> I have a problem with Ubuntu Dapper, a friend of mine tried his MMC and it worked, so I decided to buy one, I found an MMC+, the buyer said they are the same, so I bought one, and I discovered that it doesn't work
[08:03] <Ensiferum> hi, someone know how to get the framebuffer working. i've added an alias for atyfb in /etc/modules.conf and then listed the alias in /etc/modules so the module gets loaded. also added a line for kernel parameters in grub.lst but all i still get is the default console
[08:03] <r0xoR> boxemall, which card may i ask?
[08:03] <AnAnt> anyone knows a reason for this?
[08:03] <deus_> TO THE APT-MOBILE!!!!
[08:03] <boxemall> what is it that makes my sound not work?
[08:03] <r0xoR> boxemall, i've got an Envy24HT chipset myself
[08:03] <midna> vermoos: that was dist-upgrade right?
[08:03] <r0xoR> boxemall, what card?
[08:03] <Andy101> help, I tried to upgrade to dapper and now X won't start. Fails to load modules GLCore and nvidia (I had to switch to Windows, I haven't got commandline IRC)
[08:03] <boxemall> i have a terratec DMX6Fire (ICE1712 soundchip) same chipset as envy cards have
[08:03] <madmike> jlmr, so grub says stage is on hd0,4 ?
[08:03] <vermoos> midna: yup. wrong command?
[08:03] <Hoxzer> where does apt-get save its .deb?
[08:04] <Hoxzer> s
[08:04] <jlmr> madmike, perhaps you can tell me this, if i dd the first 446 bytes of MBR, the grub stage1 part, will it be enough to direct it to grub stage 2 on my ubuntu root partitiion?
[08:04] <madmike> stage1 even
[08:04] <r0xoR> Andy101, you will have to re-download or re-build your nvidia modules
[08:04] <nanotube> Hoxzer, /var/apt/cache
[08:04] <NoUse> JyZky ok, so verify that the CD has been burned properly by running that option from the boot cd
[08:04] <paulproteus> Hoxzer, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:04] <jlmr> madmike, yep
[08:04] <sally_> does anyone else have a laptop that gets less battery time in linux than windows?  what could be the problem?
[08:04] <r0xoR> Andy101, how did you get your nvidia modules before?
[08:04] <h3sp4wn> boxemail: Whats wrong with it (I use ice1712 (M-audio Delta 44))
[08:04] <midna> vermoos: no, that should work, i just did that on my server in my basement... ummm check your sources.list
[08:04] <runes> anyone know of a good PIM for calendar and appointment scheduling...I tried  Evolution but the smtp cannot connect to my ssl at sympatico
[08:04] <midna> vermoos: make sure they say dapper instead of breezy now
[08:04] <paulproteus> runes, You could try korganizer.
[08:04] <nanotube> sally_, could be not as efficient in throttling down cpu, or spinning down the disks...
[08:04] <JyZky> nouse ok ill try
[08:04] <boxemall> i don#t get sound working
[08:04] <r0xoR> boxemall, erm... actually i don't beleive it's the ICE chip... i beleive it's the Envy chip and the ice driver... but anyway
[08:04] <r0xoR> boxemall, i had to get my driver from opensound.com
[08:04] <boxemall> since i reinstalled ubuntu my sound does not work at all
[08:04] <scifi> midna: i just did the same and got same response ^^
[08:04] <runes> paulproteus will that work on Gnome desktop?
[08:04] <Avian00> anybody else having problems with dapper update repositories?
[08:04] <vermoos> midna: i've got universe and multiverse uncommented in my sources.list
[08:04] <nnacht> Hello again: about the totem for the divx-movies: mplayer and vlc plays the divx-files well. only totem does not. I had no problem in breezy
[08:05] <paulproteus> runes, Yes.
[08:05] <paulproteus> It'll look a bit funny, though.
[08:05] <r0xoR> boxemall, i have an m-audio card... and it happens to be the ONLY card out of all of theirs that doesn't have a working driver in the default kernel
[08:05] <AnAnt> I have a problem with Ubuntu Dapper, a friend of mine tried his MMC and it worked, so I decided to buy one, I found an MMC+, the buyer said they are the same, so I bought one, and I discovered that it doesn't work. Anyone has info on this ?
[08:05] <runes> woohoo thanx going to install it and try
[08:05] <paulproteus> runes, I'd really think Evolution should be able to do SSL'd SMTP, anyway.
[08:05] <boxemall> hmm
[08:05] <boxemall> so what could i do about that
[08:05] <r0xoR> boxemall, but 4front technologies has working drivers... they're not OSS but they're free
[08:05] <Andy101> r0xoR, followed instructions in Ubuntu docs about accelerating graphics, can't open yelp wthout X though
[08:05] <JyZky> nouse working well
[08:05] <madmike> jlmr, sorry don't know about MBR and stage1 grub (and stage1.5 for that matter)
[08:05] <S> shes here
[08:05] <boxemall> this problem makes my system inconsistent
[08:05] <DavidJaq> I could get a fresh install of ubuntu on this computer if I could boot from the cd from within the busybox console Dapper drops me into when it fails to boot, if someone could help me figure out how to do that
[08:05] <midna> scifi & vermoos: its beyond me, sorry, i'm pretty new at the whole linux thing, try the forums?
[08:05] <S> bohohohha ha ha ha
[08:05] <r0xoR> boxemall, go to http://www.opensound.com/
[08:05] <S> :D
[08:05] <madmike> jlmr, what is the reason to want to use ntld?
[08:05] <iNiku> grr, hilight isn't working right on my irssi
[08:05] <boxemall> it seems that it is totally unstable
[08:05] <S> congrats to every one:D
[08:05] <r0xoR> boxemall, download the driver for your card
[08:05] <madmike> ntldr even
[08:05] <r0xoR> boxemall, read the instructions
[08:06] <hazart> Is there some mean of ensuring that ALL modules installed with module-helper gets re-compiled if a kernel update gets released?
[08:06] <r0xoR> Andy101, try reconfiguring x
[08:06] <AngryElf1> guys, I'm trying to setup ivtv which uses the hotplug system......none of the directories where the firmware is suppose ot be exists.......also, /etc/firmware.agent doesn't exist -- is there a packaeg i'm missing?
[08:06] <midna> when i boot up the new install cd the screen goes black after the brown ubuntu startup sequence, the sound plays but no video
[08:06] <Overand> Is there a list of changes between Dapper RC and Dapper release?
[08:06] <r0xoR> Andy101, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:06] <midna> any ideas?
[08:06] <JyZky> nouse i got the browser open no errors
[08:06] <kalypso> bonjour a tous
[08:06] <JyZky> nouse disctree
[08:06] <dxdemetriou> If I have error like "E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3", or unconfigured what can I do?
[08:06] <Amaranth> angryElf: firmware goes in /lib/firmware
[08:06] <jlmr> madmike, ubuntu is pure experimental for me, windows remains my primary OS, i like to keep windows in front of everything else, i need for study/work etc..
[08:06] <madmike> jlmr, (well don't know enough to give certain advice when it comes to dd anyway ;)
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> boxemail: run alsa mixer are you using spdif ?
[08:06] <saj> whats the process to ked KDE on??
[08:06] <boxemall> ok thanks for this first hint
[08:06] <boxemall> i'll give it a try
[08:06] <paulproteus> kalypso, Salut!  On parle anglais ici; les francophones vont a #ubuntu-fr, generalement.
[08:06] <NoUse> JyZky the program that ran from the boot CD ran with no problem?
[08:07] <KhZillu> ooh new ubuntu wallpaper is purdy
[08:07] <Amaranth> Overand: probably close to no changes
[08:07] <h3sp4wn> boxemail: alsamixer sorry
[08:07] <r0xoR> jlmr, you'll probably get over that one of these days :P
[08:07] <paulproteus> kalypso, But if you'll speak English you'll find help here.
[08:07] <AngryElf1> Amaranth, /lib/firmware or /lib/firmware/`uname -r` ?
[08:07] <sublime> #join ubuntu-es
[08:07] <madmike> jlmr, if i'd be you i'd just copy the MBR to a floppy or another save place... liek this you can allway copy it back, when something goes wrong
[08:07] <jlmr> madmike, np thnx anyway, i will ask again, perhaps someone else knows :D
[08:07] <boxemall> currently i am not able to start firefox or any other app
[08:07] <scifi> vermoos: please let me know if u find out the solution
[08:07] <Ajeeb71> does ubunto installer have console-less modes? text install via SSH or Telnet? and also does it have hands free install, kickstart/jumpstart/ whatever others call it? any howtos ?
[08:07] <iNiku> !nvidia
[08:07] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:07] <Andy101> r0xoR:  thanks, will try as soon as I print something from ubuntu.com
[08:07] <DavidJaq> I could get a fresh install of ubuntu on this computer if I could boot from the cd from within the busybox console Dapper drops me into when it fails to boot, if someone could help me figure out how to do that
[08:07] <JyZky> nouse yes the browser
[08:07] <Amaranth> Overand: you can use synaptic to upgrade to the final version if you were using the rc
[08:07] <boxemall> even the panel is not responding
[08:07] <NoUse> JyZky browser?
[08:07] <jlmr> madmike, ok thnx
[08:07] <Amaranth> angryElf: it seems to work with either one
[08:07] <dust_> so i knew this once but... how do i add apps to my start up?
[08:07] <boxemall> i have to restart but i will be back in a few minutes (hope so,...)
[08:07] <NoUse> JyZky this program should run with booting off the CD, it shouldn't involve a browser
[08:07] <madmike> jlmr, Grub generally does a good job on booting windows i've got it working succesfully with windows 98 and XP
[08:07] <vermoos> scifi: ok.
[08:07] <AngryElf1> Amaranth, well i've actually got it in both, and several other places and dmesg keeps complaining it can't find it
[08:08] <Amaranth> angryElf: odd
[08:08] <NoUse> JyZky you shouldn't be in widows while this runs
[08:08] <JyZky> nouse yeye ive tried it but it comes the error...?
[08:08] <Amaranth> angryElf: this is for a kernel module?
[08:08] <aedwards232> using apt, how do you upgrade to dapper?
[08:08] <jlmr> madmike,  so far, it doesnt boot windows, otherwise it wouldnt be much of a problem, it just hangs when choosing windows
[08:08] <AngryElf1> Amaranth, yes
[08:08] <JyZky> nouse i can get the whole error msg if u want?
[08:08] <anto9us> Ajeeb71, see wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/
[08:08] <madmike> jlmr, there is also a win32 grub if you really want to boot windows before starting into ubuntu
[08:08] <NoUse> JyZky the verify program returned an error?
[08:08] <midna> is there a way to use the old text install on the new cd instead of going to a live cd install?
[08:08] <Ajeeb71> anto9us: thanks
[08:08] <DavidJaq> I could get a fresh install of ubuntu on this computer if I could boot from the cd from within the busybox console Dapper drops me into when it fails to boot, if someone could help me figure out how to do that
[08:08] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: put the cd in the drive and reboot....
[08:08] <JyZky> nouse no... the install
[08:08] <Amaranth> !tell aedwards232 about upgrade
[08:08] <N3o21> Can someone help me? I need download gcc and kernel sources for dapper drake to compile modem drivers.
[08:08] <madmike> jlmr, so you allready got ubuntu installed but you can't boot windows anymore?
[08:08] <runes> paulproteus: they claim it does but I tried it ..it will connect to the pop server ssl but the smpt server times out..so to troubleshoot I tried thunderbird and it worked
[08:09] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig ive tried... it works well the splashscreen
[08:09] <NoUse> JyZky you need to run a verify program from the boot menu, put the disc in your drive and reboot
[08:09] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig but the install get some error
[08:09] <NoUse> JyZky you aren't listening
[08:09] <jlmr> madmike, yes thats part of the problem :D
[08:09] <JyZky> nouse it is the... very the cd from any efects
[08:09] <JyZky> nouse something like that
[08:09] <NoUse> JyZky yes
[08:09] <JyZky> nouse ok ill try
[08:09] <wycats> where are the Kernel headers by default?
[08:09] <JyZky> nouse BRB
[08:09] <madmike> jlmr, ... hmm other problems that are booting related?
[08:09] <midna> is there a way to use the old text install on the new cd instead of going to a live cd install?
[08:09] <ketsugi> How do I configure the default bittorrent program? To use other ports, for example.
[08:09] <Amaranth> N3o21: you probably need to run sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:10] <jlmr> madmike, i could just use fixmbr or fdisk /mbr to get back to windows, bu then i would be unable to get into ubuntu
[08:10] <Amaranth> ketsugi: i don't think it offers that
[08:10] <DavidJaq> I could get a fresh install of ubuntu on this computer if I could boot from the cd from within the busybox console Dapper drops me into when it fails to boot, if someone could help me figure out how to do that
[08:10] <KhZillu> ... testing if hibernate finally works....
[08:10] <xanavim> yeehaw! partypartypartyparty!!!
[08:10] <neoncode> Hi, How do I chnage the driver for a Video Capture card?
[08:10] <ketsugi> Huh, really? That sucks... I don't want to have to open up 6881
[08:10] <N3o21> Amaranth: I can't. I don't have a internet connection in ubuntu, I need to compile drivers for my ADSL modem
[08:10] <ubuntu_> I have a terrible problem :(
[08:10] <Amaranth> DavidJaq: ah, i don't think you can start the installer like that
[08:10] <dust_> ?anyone know how to add applications to the start up?
[08:11] <Amaranth> N3o21: oh
[08:11] <jlmr> madmike, im trying to verify if the dd thing would work to get me back in ubuntu, otherwise it will be problem to get there :P
[08:11] <elyxi> what do i have to do if i want to update a breezy badger system to dapper drake?
[08:11] <madmike> jlmr, this should be unneccessary grub is able to provide a (working) boot-menu
[08:11] <wycats> dust_ -- sessions in the  settings
[08:11] <N3o21> Amaranth: I must dowload it from the net in windows. Reboot to ubuntu, and install it.
[08:11] <midna> is there a way to use the old text install on the new cd instead of going to a live cd install?
[08:11] <Andre4s> any swedish users here? has anyone got any keyboard problems with 6.06?
[08:11] <wycats> Where's the linux headers?
[08:11] <wycats> I see they're installed
[08:11] <KhZillu> woo
[08:11] <dust_> wycats: cheers!
[08:11] <KhZillu> hibernate works
[08:11] <Auckland_Pig> elyxi: tyype alt+f2, then "gksudo update-manager -d"
[08:11] <flask-> help! my dist-upgrade is failing with "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[08:11] <zerby_> dapper drake looks cool
[08:11] <jlmr> madmike, but it doesnt, windows doesnt boot... :(
[08:11] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, i tried it... and it doesnt work anymore lol
[08:11] <scifi> i can never remember where sources.lst is stored, can someone remind me pls
[08:11] <Auckland_Pig> !upgrade
[08:11] <madmike> jlmr, what windows do you run?
[08:12] <Amaranth> N3o21: i guess look at http://packages.ubuntu.com and download all of the packages you need and their dependencies
[08:12] <iNiku> has anyone installed dapper on an existing system with root, /usr and /home on LVM over MD, preserving /home?
[08:12] <zerby_> scarn: /apt
[08:12] <jlmr> madmike, xp
[08:12] <zerby_> oops scifi /apt
[08:12] <scifi> ty
[08:12] <jlmr> madmike, sp2 etc
[08:12] <DavidJaq> is there a way to start the install process from within Windows XP? I can't boot from CD on this computer and I don't have a floppy disk
[08:12] <ubuntu_> stupid windows :(, it doesn't work in my ntfs partition due to a resize partition
[08:12] <madmike> jlmr, on which hd, partition is it installed?
[08:12] <Auckland_Pig> elyxi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[08:12] <midna> is there a way to use the old text install on the new cd instead of going to a live cd install?
[08:12] <Amaranth> DavidJaq: actually i think that is possible, let me look
[08:12] <kermitX_> scifi: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:12] <Jeeves_> !friends++
[08:12] <zerby_> DavidJaq: no i dont think so
[08:12] <iNiku> midna: use the alternate cd
[08:12] <apokryphos> midna: yes, use the alternate CD
[08:12] <highvoltage> ubuntu_: it's best to defrag your windows disk before resizing it
[08:12] <midna> ok thank you
[08:13] <N3o21> btw, what apckage I need for MP3 support in ubuntu?
[08:13] <scifi> kermitX: got it hx
[08:13] <noob31> i have a shuttle XPC with Nvidia network
[08:13] <zerby_> kermitX_: yes sorrry
[08:13] <N3o21> *package
[08:13] <NoUse> DavidJaq search the wiki for 'installation' they have some options
[08:13] <noob31> does ubuntu support it ?
[08:13] <Amaranth> DavidJaq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromWindows
[08:13] <vermoos> scifi: Fix /etc/apt/sources.list by replacing all occurances of breezy with dapper.  http://blog.jillesvangurp.com/2006/05/29/ubuntu-breezy-to-dapper-upgrade/
[08:13] <neoncode> Actualy Nevermind. I have a Tv Capture card connected to 4 cameras. I have no idea what chanell they broadcast on. How do I scan every possible chanell?
[08:13] <jlmr> madmike, windows xp is on the first partition on my only harddisk (it is ntfs formatted)
[08:13] <DavidJaq> thanks Amaranth
[08:13] <h3h_timo> has anyone else had a problem with dapper screwing up your ethernet??
[08:13] <Amaranth> h3h_timo: nope
[08:13] <vermoos> scifi: though i havn't tried this yet. you first?
[08:13] <gymsmoke> i'm looking for a product similar to phprunner that will run under ubuntu... anyone have any ideas?
[08:13] <noob31> i can't get my ethernet to work
[08:13] <jlmr> madmike, so that would be hd0,0 or dev/hda1
[08:13] <stf> if i was running dapper "testing" until today, and i do apt-get update/upgrade, am i running stable ? (can i check ?)
[08:13] <Amaranth> gymsmoke: what does phprunner do?
[08:13] <scifi> vermoos: hmm, is this something everyone has had to do then ?
[08:14] <madmike> jlmr, hmm... let me check my notes (bookmarks)
[08:14] <h3h_timo> Amaranth, do you have any suggestions of waht i could do to fix it.. the driver is tulip i think... and its a broadcom ethernet device
[08:14] <Avian00> Are the breezy repositories down?
[08:14] <highvoltage> Amaranth: it chases away all php code
[08:14] <ubuntu_> highvoltage I did it
[08:14] <gymsmoke> Amaranth: it's an ide for php/mysql...
[08:14] <ubuntu_> but.....I don't know what happen
[08:14] <Amaranth> h3h_timo: nope, sorry
[08:14] <Amaranth> gymsmoke: oh
[08:14] <uscg_corey>  /join #ubuntu+1
[08:14] <uscg_corey>  /join #ubuntu+1
[08:14] <Khamael> is there a webpage that explains the diff between breezy and dapper?
[08:14] <uscg_corey> wtf
[08:14] <Amaranth> gymsmoke: well, gedit does syntax highlighting
[08:14] <KhZillu> ok hibernate ALMOST works
[08:14] <pettman> something is wrong with gparted, it won't see the partitions that is already on the drive :S
[08:14] <uscg_corey> ah
[08:14] <vermoos> scifi: it sounds kinda logical, since /etc/apt/sources.list must be distro specific...
[08:14] <neoncode> Can anyone help me?
[08:14] <disinterested_pe> i just got home from cataract surgery
[08:15] <Amaranth> uscg_corey: #ubuntu+1 is closed
[08:15] <Ohzie> Is there a power moniter in the console?
[08:15] <KhZillu> coming back from hibernate and the network cards don't work
[08:15] <Ohzie> For like a laptop?
[08:15] <uscg_corey> i see that ;P
[08:15] <gymsmoke> Amaranth: it has the ability to build forms from tables in mysql
[08:15] <ubuntu_> now, in GParted is ntfs partition, but I can't mount this highvoltage
[08:15] <wycats> I really need to find the C headers for my kernel...
[08:15] <AnAnt> I have a problem with Ubuntu Dapper, a friend of mine tried his MMC and it worked, so I decided to buy one, I found an MMC+, the buyer said they are the same, so I bought one, and I discovered that it doesn't work. Anyone has info on this ?
[08:15] <uscg_corey> is totem-xine now the recommended plugin for ff1.5 streaming video?
[08:15] <Amaranth> gymsmoke: oh, i don't know of anything like that
[08:15] <Ohzie> wycats: Hey
[08:15] <Amaranth> gymsmoke: you could try running it with WINE
[08:15] <rukuartic> AnAnt: tried mounting it by yourself?
[08:15] <Avian00> apt-get update spits out a bunch of 403 Forbidden errors.  Are the Dapper repositories down (sorry, I said breezy a moment ago)?
[08:15] <wycats> hey
[08:15] <rekrutacja> anyone familiar with NetworkManager? my card seems to be supported, i installed version from official ubuntu repo, but it is not working...
[08:15] <scifi> vermoos: ok im gonna try it, backup up original already in there anyway
[08:15] <gymsmoke> Amaranth: that's true... (i have crossover 5)
[08:15] <h3h_timo> Amaranth, is it possible to boot an older kernel????
[08:16] <Amaranth> h3h_timo: it might be
[08:16] <AnAnt> rukuartic: I got this in /var/log/messages: mmc2: card has unknown MMCA version 4
[08:16] <h3h_timo> Amaranth, how???
[08:16] <st> Sorry to trouble you! Is this the right place for help with installation of xampp on ubuntu?
[08:16] <rukuartic> rekrutacja: I seem to remember that some service needed to be restarted... I think it was dbus "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" maybe
[08:16] <rukuartic> can anyone confirm that?
[08:16] <Amaranth> h3h_timo: as long as you didn't uninstall it it should show up in the grub boot list
[08:16] <h3h_timo> alright.. im gonna try that..
[08:16] <onkarshinde> I am getting too many MD5mismatch errors when using CD to upgrade. Anyone else faced this?
[08:16] <Khamael> I can`t Shut Down the comp as a user... only log out, switch user, lock screen and hibernate
[08:16] <vermoos> scifi: ditto, apparantly it takes as hour, though i suspect less on broadband. its 7.16 pm in the uk
[08:16] <rekrutacja> rukuartic: i restarted whole system just minutes ago
[08:17] <soundray> Khamael: try 'sudo shutdown -h now'
[08:17] <ubuntu_> could I recover my data highvoltage?
[08:17] <rukuartic> AnAnt, rekrutacja: Just throwing out obvious answers. I really don't know much...
[08:17] <madmike> jlmr, you still there?
[08:17] <DShepherd> Khamael: it supposed to be like that
[08:17] <rukuartic> soundray: any way you can set reboot to be a non superuser command?
[08:17] <sinbad444> Khamael, i have similar problem
[08:17] <highvoltage> ubuntu_: i don't know :/
[08:17] <jlmr> madmike, yes
[08:17] <anto9us> st, yes, this is the place to ask about any support issues with ubuntu, I don't know anything about xampp though, try again after waiting a while, someone else might :)
[08:17] <sinbad444> i dont know why
[08:17] <highvoltage> it's been ages since i've used ntfs
[08:17] <Khamael> DShepherd: how do I change it?
[08:17] <madmike> jlmr, i'm still on it ;)
[08:17] <Avian00> apt-get update spits out a bunch of 403 Forbidden errors.  Are the Dapper repositories down?
[08:17] <Avian00> apt-get update spits out a bunch of 403 Forbidden errors.  Are the Dapper repositories down?
[08:17] <soundray> rukuartic: I don't know... tried suid?
[08:17] <Avian00> if nobody can answer my question here, can somebody please direct me to where I CAN get a response?
[08:17] <st> ok. Thanks!
[08:17] <midna> is there a way to do a fresh install from a cd while inside breezy, or at least start it inside breezy
[08:17] <jlmr> madmike, ok, cool, im searching also
[08:17] <midna> avian: ubuntuforums.com
[08:18] <sinbad444> DShepherd: how do I change it?
[08:18] <rukuartic> soundray: I'm unfamiliar with that...
[08:18] <Raskall> hmm.. My last apt-get upgrade was yesterday. been running dapper for a couple of months. apt-get dist-upgrade says there's nothing to do. Do I have a final dapper on my laptop then?
[08:18] <onkarshinde> Anybody getting MD4 mismatch errors while upgrading with CD?
[08:18] <midna> is there a way to do a fresh install from a cd while inside breezy, or at least start it inside breezy
[08:18] <sinbad444> i want to be ABLE to shutdown Dapper !
[08:18] <onkarshinde> Raskall: Yes
[08:18] <rukuartic> Raskall: I had that happen to me as well. As far as I've been told, yes you are.
[08:18] <Avian00> ubuntuforms won't give me up-to-date info
[08:18] <Avian00> I have a vanilla CD instsasll of Dapper
[08:18] <anto9us> st, another tip, just ask your support question, you didn't really ask one :)
[08:18] <DShepherd> sinbad444: checking on it now
[08:18] <Avian00> I know my internet works
[08:19] <sinbad444> WHY doesnt Dapper allow me to Shutdown anyways ?
[08:19] <Amaranth> Raskall: yep, you're running the final version
[08:19] <DShepherd> Khamael:  checking on it now
[08:19] <sinbad444> okie
[08:19] <midna> Avian: i didn't see your question i was afk what did you ask?
[08:19] <Avian00> the only logical explination is that the repositories are down, can somebody confirm this?
[08:19] <Lynoure> rekrutacja: I might remember wrong, but I read that one needs to remove mention of the network interfaces (apart from loopback) from /etc/network/interfaces. Did that, after runnung the interfaces down. And it worked.
[08:19] <dxdemetriou> The gksudo "update-manager -d" is making correct upgrade? I have read that the update-manager will force to Dapper without the -d.
[08:19] <rukuartic> sinbad444: Eh.... linux was built to be server sized. So if someuser logged on and decided to reboot, it could cause a lot of problems.
[08:19] <scifi> can i just get some confirmation from someone that i need to replace all "breezy" references with "dapper" in my sources.list for sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to work ?
[08:19] <midna> Avian: ppl have been asking that on here recently... no real answer
[08:19] <mjr> scifi, ack
[08:19] <rukuartic> sinbad444: Just imagine working on your computer, and all of a sudden it shuts off.
[08:19] <dsas> scifi: yes
[08:19] <midna> scifi: yes
[08:19] <soundray> rukuartic: 'sudo chmod g+s binary' lets group members execute binary as root.
[08:19] <scifi> ty
[08:20] <SurfnKid> where'd spikeh go
[08:20] <SurfnKid> :P
[08:20] <dsas> dxdemetriou: You don't need the '-d' now that Dapper has been released.
[08:20] <Lynoure> rekrutacja: But I'm using it with kubuntu, so there might be some differences if you need further help
[08:20] <midna> is there a way to do a fresh install from a cd while inside breezy, or at least start it inside breezy
[08:20] <PHiSQuaRE> mmmm, I can't sudo, I think my hostname got fffed, how can I fix this little problem...
[08:20] <r0xoR> i've installed a lot of custom stuff in my breezy install: custom kernel compile, out of kernel-tree modules and FF1.5
[08:20] <mjr> soundray, incorrect. It will change the effective gid to the gid of the owner group
[08:20] <r0xoR> will an upgrade to dapper overwrite all that?
[08:20] <rukuartic> soundray: Ooof you kinda lost me on the syntax...
[08:20] <Avian00> I guess I can take that as I'm not the only having this problem
[08:20] <dxdemetriou> dsas: I know, but the update-manager don't give me the choice yet
[08:20] <midna> Avian: you are not
[08:20] <sorush20> hi
[08:20] <soundray> rukuartic: it was wrong anyway, as mjr pointed out
[08:21] <dsas> dxdemetriou: Does it work with the '-d' ?
[08:21] <midna> Avian: try using synaptic?
[08:21] <Avian00> ok.  thanks midna
[08:21] <dxdemetriou> dsas: yes
[08:21] <ak7> ok, I'm checking the md5sum of an iso in a terminal, and i'm getting different values for the same file, each time I run it
[08:21] <flask-> wow, that upgrade didn't even REMOTELY work.
[08:21] <eigenlambda> wooo 1k ppls in #ubuntu wooo
[08:21] <sorush20> just testing the ubuntu to show off to my friend .. .some one say hi to geroge please..
[08:21] <dsas> dxdemetriou: Then use that then I guess.
[08:21] <scifi> what about the 1st line #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted ?
[08:21] <midna> ak7: do a memtest
[08:21] <eigenlambda> we're more popular than debian
[08:21] <Amaranth> Avian00: the repos are working fine for me
[08:21] <rukuartic> mjr: Would you happen to know how I could allow one user to run "reboot" without using sudo?
[08:21] <Amaranth> Avian00: your mirror might be overloaded
[08:21] <WildChild> I just installed Dapper Drake but now I have a framebuffer problem with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 3000, does anyone has the same problem? I doesn't see anything until X.org start
[08:21] <sinbad444> wow the Dapper upgrade today is  SLOW  slow  sLoW
[08:21] <r0xoR> flask-, uh oh, heheheh, what's wrong?
[08:21] <vermoos> scifi: geez i've got 547 upgrades to do, which popped up in the synaptics gui * after * doing apt-get update
[08:21] <dcraven> Hi geroge
[08:21] <zkl-laptop> hmm, can't start gnome-session from gdm
[08:21] <PHiSQuaRE> mmmm, I can't sudo, I think my hostname got fffed, how can I fix this little problem?
[08:21] <midna> is there a way to do a fresh install from a cd while inside breezy, or at least start it inside breezy
[08:21] <rukuartic> sinbad444: Its hot stuff :)
[08:21] <midna> ?
[08:22] <Avian00> Amaranth: how can I specify a different mirror?  I've been searching google and ubuntuforms for that without any luck
[08:22] <onkarshinde> scifi: You can comment that. And if you have dapper CD then do 'susdo apt-cdrom add'
[08:22] <flask-> r0xor: ran update-manager -d, it did its thing and said it had to reboot. rebooted and no upgrade had taken place.
[08:22] <ak7> midna: bad memory can do that? :/
[08:22] <Simthumb> Hi I had a few questions about Ubuntu
[08:22] <Amaranth> midna: no, but you can use the CD to do a dist-upgrade
[08:22] <dxdemetriou> dsas: I have the cy.archive.ubuntu... It will be this the reason?
[08:22] <sinbad444> haha yeah but im only getting like 3-5Kbps !!
[08:22] <rukuartic> midna: If you shut down and put the CD in, you might be able to boot from CD and install that way :)
[08:22] <mjr> rukuartic, I would recommend sudo anyway
[08:22] <r0xoR> flask-, you have to use dist-upgrade
[08:22] <xeta> HAPPY DAPPER DAY!
[08:22] <flask-> r0xor: then I tried to manually run dist-upgrade and it complained about all my xorg-* packages needing to be removed... so I let it
[08:22] <xiko> hmm just upgraded it to dapper, everything working right
[08:22] <Amaranth> Avian00: you have to manually edit your sources.list
[08:22] <dsas> dxdemetriou: Possibly, not all mirrors will update as quick as others.
[08:22] <midna> rukuartic: cd kills my display.. as soon as it finishes booting the stupid screen goes black
[08:22] <rekrutacja> Lynoure: hmmm, i use pcmcia atheros card (madwifi driver) and remember that i have to edit sth in this file to get it running
[08:22] <mjr> rukuartic, but you could make it 4750 and owned by a group that can execute it as root
[08:22] <rukuartic> mjr: Hmm. Lemme look on editing sudoers file...
[08:22] <r0xoR> flask-, did you read and or follow any instructions? and if so which ones?
[08:22] <JyZky> nouse
[08:23] <midna> ak7: had the same problem, bad memory was my problem.. don't really know
[08:23] <JyZky> nouse 3 check summar failed
[08:23] <flask-> r0xoR: i followed the instructions in the Wiki article in the topic.
[08:23] <rukuartic> mjr: Ooooh... Make a group called "shutdown" or something, add users to that group?
[08:23] <Avian00> Amaranth: where can I find a list of mirrors?
[08:23] <r0xoR> k
[08:23] <eXistenZ> What might cause my ff to browse slowly? It downloads files fast though
[08:23] <JyZky> NoUse 3 check summars failed
[08:23] <Lynoure> rekrutacja: where   this = ?
[08:23] <Amaranth> Avian00: i dunno
[08:23] <flask-> r0xoR: and now when i try to run dist-upgrade it doesn't indicate that there's any upgrade to perform
[08:23] <midna> Amaranth: thank you.. i might resort to that, but i would really like to just get a vanilla install
[08:23] <madmike> jlmr, what does the /boot/grub/menu.lst look like (for the windows part anyway) ?
[08:23] <ak7> midna: well, thanks... not sure about the status of my warranty, that's all :(
[08:23] <Amaranth> Avian00: i just use archive.ubuntu.com
[08:23] <r0xoR> flask-, and i just have to ask... yo'ure sure that you followed them correctly and in the right order and what not?
[08:23] <shachaf> Is anyone else here having trouble with the ATi drivers?
[08:23] <pike__> eXistenZ: ipv6? or regular dns problem?
[08:23] <shachaf> They stopped working suddenly.
[08:23] <Raskall> well, then it just remains to upgrade wifey's laptop and the server.
[08:23] <iNiku> rekrutacja: I use an atheros card and madwifi too, what's your problem?
[08:23] <flask-> r0xoR: yep, I'm not new at this by any means
[08:23] <shachaf> And won't compile now.
[08:23] <midna> ak7: sorry, a memtest would tell you if its bad at least.. could be good/bad news
[08:23] <spikeh> ATI drivers aren't working?
[08:24] <rukuartic> mjr Its odd... I just looked at reboot in /sbin, its got rwxrwxrwx
[08:24] <r0xoR> k
[08:24] <jlmr> madmike, ok, trying to find that :p
[08:24] <eXistenZ> pike__, How can I fix either?
[08:24] <midna> ak7: could also be normal discrepencies in large files
[08:24] <JyZky> nouse 3 check summar errors
[08:24] <Avian00> Amaranth: that's the same one I'm using. some of them work, others do not
[08:24] <shachaf> spikeh: Not for me.
[08:24] <zambba> I dist-upgraded my Dapper system today
[08:24] <scifi> vermoos: i dont think i have to install all those tho, just updates the list
[08:24] <shachaf> spikeh: This is a Radeon Xpress 200M.
[08:24] <madmike> jlmr, just open a terminal ans write 'gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst' (without the ')
[08:24] <jlmr> madmike, title		Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[08:24] <jlmr> root		(hd0,0)
[08:24] <jlmr> savedefault
[08:24] <jlmr> makeactive
[08:24] <jlmr> chainloader	+1
[08:24] <KhZillu> where are the ubuntu wallpapers stored for gnome?
[08:25] <zambba> Now when I try to log in, I only get error "Xsession: warning: unable to write to /tmp"
[08:25] <madmike> jlmr, sounds good
[08:25] <sinbad444> zambba, WelCome to the the CLUB
[08:25] <spikeh> shachaf: I have a X800GTO2, and it's giving me an error so I'm downloading the fglrx drivers
[08:25] <scifi> vermoos: i just did "sudo apt-get update" in cli
[08:25] <jlmr> madmike, yeah, it thought so :D
[08:25] <Xappe> is there a way to start gnome-terminal with a non-default charmap? (so I don't have to use the menu to change)
[08:25] <[zero] > Amaranth: could you help me with this mount business?
[08:25] <DShepherd> Khamael, sinbad444.. i can seem to find anything.. maybe i was mistaken
[08:25] <Simthumb> Does Ubuntu replace Windows (XP) or...?
[08:25] <Raskall> but on my server I have only installed software from the ubuntu repos. I _should_ be ok dist-upgrading, right?
[08:25] <[zero] > please
[08:25] <JyZky> NOUSE 3 CHECK SUMMAR FAILED
[08:25] <scifi> vermoos: hmmm NOW its saying 577 updates in pop-menu too lol
[08:25] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Depends on how you install it. You can have it completely take over the hard drive, or share it.
[08:25] <shachaf> spikeh: I'm trying to compile the latest fglrx drivers.
[08:25] <aedwards232> I tryed gksudo "update-manager -d" and got this "After your package information was updated the essential package 'ubuntu-base' can not be found anymore." is this a known issue?
[08:25] <zkl-laptop> .xsession-errors isn't telling me anything insightful either
[08:25] <sinbad444> DShep,  thx anyways !!  :)
[08:26] <shachaf> spikeh: Though I tried the old ones too.
[08:26] <vermoos> scifi: yeah ditto
[08:26] <midna> when i boot up the new install cd the screen goes black after the brown ubuntu startup sequence, the sound plays but no video any ideas?
[08:26] <DShepherd> Khamael, sinbad444 that was cant not can
[08:26] <spikeh> shachaf: oh? I'm just using apt-get xorg-drivers-fglrx
[08:26] <DShepherd> sinbad444: sure,, no prob
[08:26] <rekrutacja> iNiku: NetworkManager is not working
[08:26] <spikeh> shachaf: not sure if it will work yet :D
[08:26] <shachaf> spikeh: I'll try that, I guess.
[08:26] <ifxx> hey @all ... has anyone set up the sgi performer with ubuntu??
[08:26] <scifi> vermoos: said it cant install all of them, says i need to do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in console, so im gonna do that now
[08:26] <Avian00> Amaranth: Thanks for your help
[08:26] <iNiku> rekrutacja: at all? what does it do?
[08:26] <sinbad444> hey guys how do i disable quits/join messages in xchat-gnome ?? i looked everywhere
[08:26] <soundray> midna: do you get a console login when you hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 ?
[08:26] <madmike> what does 'sudo fdisk -l' say?
[08:26] <Simthumb> @rukuartic Can it partition my hard drive?
[08:27] <scifi> vermoos: hmmm or shud i install these updates first ?
[08:27] <madmike> jlmr, what does 'sudo fdisk -l' say?
[08:27] <midna> soundray: yes i do
[08:27] <flask-> r0xoR: nevermind, i think it was a sources.list problem
[08:27] <Ohzie> Hey, I was here earlier and someone told me that to fix my problem I had to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but that isn't helping.
[08:27] <rukuartic> sinbad444: /part (channel) (message)
[08:27] <r0xoR> flask-, ahh i see
[08:27] <DavidJaq> in the wiki I see a confusing instruction... 'Extract grldr from the archive to c:\grldr. The rest of the files in the archive are unnecessary. (If your default compression/archive program doesn't like *.gz files, try 7-Zip from www.7-zip.org.)'
[08:27] <vermoos> scifi: i think the updates which come through the gui *are* the ugrade to dapper
[08:27] <[zero] > Someone help Im at the point on > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions < where its Preparing the system, but I dont understand the command because I want to mount /dev/hdb5  :????
[08:27] <rekrutacja> iNiku: displays in panel "no network connection" which is obviously not true
[08:27] <flask-> r0xoR: copied one off the forums, reran apt-get update, re-ran dist-upgrade and now it's flyin
[08:27] <aedwards232> I tryed gksudo "update-manager -d" and got this "After your package information was updated the essential package 'ubuntu-base' can not be found anymore." is this a known issue?
[08:27] <DavidJaq> does that mean that I should extract grldr to the C drive or into a folder called grldr on the c drive?
[08:27] <scifi> vermoos: ok ive pressed "install updates" now
[08:27] <r0xoR> flask-, hehehe, i fought with my computer a bunch last time... then realized i was just a little bit sped and took a notch of my ego :)
[08:28] <madmike> jlmr, (i.e. is windows xp really on this first partition?!)
[08:28] <rukuartic> [zero] : what type of filesystem is it?
[08:28] <rekrutacja> iNiku: i had to start dhclient manually in order to connect
[08:28] <soundray> midna: log in there, run 'sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and set the video driver to vesa (leave everything else as is, say no to autodetection).
[08:28] <r0xoR> flask-, lemme know how it works :)
[08:28] <jldWork> so is it safe to use "update-manager -d" to upgrade to dapper, or will that go to "edgey eft"?
[08:28] <iNiku> rekrutacja: does it show any networks available in the menu?
[08:28] <Simthumb> Do I have to manually partition my disk?
[08:28] <rekrutacja> iNiku: NO
[08:28] <scifi> vermoos: and i will also do a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade when they have completed installing
[08:28] <[zero] > rukuartic: W95 FAT32
[08:28] <Simthumb> Or will it automatically partition?
[08:28] <midna> soundray: ok i'll try that.. thank you greatly
[08:28] <Simthumb> Or no partition at all?
[08:28] <Khamael> DShepherd: I looked at some screenshots of dapper, and the shutdown function is there
[08:28] <JyZky> WHAT THA FACK
[08:28] <rekrutacja> iNiku: and i am connected to internet via wifi right now, no cables at all
[08:28] <soundray> midna: afterwards, restart gdm with 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[08:28] <JyZky> NOUSE 3 fucking summars failed answer
[08:28] <spikeh> shachaf: it's not working
[08:28] <iNiku> rekrutacja: weird, it worked for me a couple of weeks ago... I ended up tossing it in favor of /etc/network/interfaces, though
[08:28] <rukuartic> [zero] : Ah I have a fat32 mount as well. You say that its hdb5?
[08:29] <[zero] > yeh
[08:29] <DavidJaq> in the wiki I see a confusing instruction... 'Extract grldr from the archive to c:\grldr. The rest of the files in the archive are unnecessary. (If your default compression/archive program doesn't like *.gz files, try 7-Zip from www.7-zip.org.)'... does that mean that I should extract grldr to the C drive or into a folder called grldr on the c drive?
[08:29] <rukuartic> [zero] : try this
[08:29] <iNiku> rekrutacja: so it works after the manual dhclient?
[08:29] <jlmr> madmike,   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[08:29] <jlmr> /dev/hda1   *           1        1411    11333826    7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:29] <jlmr> /dev/hda2            1412        4099    21591360    7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:29] <jlmr> /dev/hda3            4100        4864     6144862+   5  Extended
[08:29] <jlmr> /dev/hda5            4100        4609     4096543+  83  Linux
[08:29] <jlmr> /dev/hda6            4610        4673      514048+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[08:29] <jlmr> /dev/hda7            4674        4864     1534176   83  Linux
[08:29] <tahorg> (ouch)
[08:29] <scifi> vermoos: apparently mine will only take 20mins to update ( well to download anyway )
[08:29] <Simthumb> rukuartic: do I have to partition my drive? Is it possible to run Ubuntu and WinXP side-by-side?
[08:29] <rekrutacja> iNiku: network connection works, not netwrokmanager
[08:29] <dsas> !tell jlmr about pastebin
[08:29] <Simthumb> I don't see anything in the FAQ about that
[08:29] <rukuartic> [zero] : sudo mkdir /media/fat32; sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdb5 /media/fat32
[08:30] <zkl-laptop> looks like i'm bit by bug 40748
[08:30] <midna> soundray: will do.. thanks for your help
[08:30] <vermoos> scifi: i'm almost done
[08:30] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Yes you do have to partition your hard drive, and yes its possible. I'm doing it myself.
[08:30] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Thats called dual boting.
[08:30] <stjepan> rukuartic, it is much better to put it in fstab
[08:30] <scifi> vermoos: kewl
[08:30] <Simthumb> Simthumb: So does Ubuntu LiveCD do that for me?
[08:30] <rukuartic> stjepan: Yep, I'm just explaining mount
[08:30] <Simthumb> oops
[08:30] <jlmr> dsas, ok
[08:30] <madmike> jlmr, well... it is
[08:30] <iNiku> rekrutacja: okay, no really good ideas there... as I said, I don't use NM
[08:30] <soundray> DavidJaq: extract to a folder.
[08:30] <rekrutacja> this is my /etc/network/interfaces file http://pastebin.com/751819
[08:30] <Simthumb> rukuartic: so does Ubuntu do that for me?
[08:30] <iNiku> rekrutacja: ohh
[08:30] <vermoos> scifi: 14 minutes :)
[08:30] <Simthumb> rukuartic: or do I have to do it?
[08:30] <rukuartic> Simthumb: yes it does, but its a tad risky. I lost my ntfs partition once--fortunately there was nothing on it
[08:30] <rekrutacja> iNiku: this is my /etc/network/interfaces file http://pastebin.com/751819
[08:30] <Simthumb> With a 3rd party software?
[08:30] <Getwild2> I get the error, "Can't resolve host name "unix"!", whenever I execute a command in the shell.  Any ideas?
[08:31] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Wow...so then how do I partition?
[08:31] <jlmr> madmike, it looks alright doesnt it, but it doesnt work
[08:31] <[zero] > rukuartic: now when I click on it nothing happens?
[08:31] <jab> Performancevise how does a debian x86 (userland) with an 64-bits kernel perform vs. ubuntu amd64 on a AMD64 CPU system?
[08:31] <rukuartic> Simthumb: The live CD does it for you. How much data do you have on your drive?
[08:31] <iNiku> rekrutacja: did you comment out the ath0 lines before trying network manager?
[08:31] <stjepan> anyone here runs the stable dapper?
[08:31] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Should I dare try using command-line?
[08:31] <jlmr> mamike, thats why i wanted to switch back to ntldr
[08:31] <iNiku> rekrutacja: NM won't touch interfaces that have configs in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:31] <Simthumb> rukuartic: lol about 35gigs
[08:31] <stjepan> any thoughs of the new dapper? any experiences?
[08:31] <rekrutacja> iNiku: no. ath0 is my pcmcia wifi card
[08:31] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: did you get ubuntu working?
[08:31] <Booo> is there a problem with iso for ppc?
[08:31] <jlmr> madmike, thats why i wanted to switch back to ntldr
[08:31] <rukuartic> [zero] : You probably have to be the super user to open the folder... try this... open a terminal and do "sudo -i;cd /media/fat32"
[08:31] <gil> i have a toshiba m40x....i cant for the life of me get the Card reader to pick up an inserted card
[08:31] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Out of how much space?
[08:31] <scifi> vermoos: maxing out my measly 1mbit, package servers must be getting hammered, but still managing to max me out :D
[08:31] <stjepan> I'm just running dapper now 8-)
[08:31] <iNiku> rekrutacja: yes, you have to comment it out in /etc/network/interfaces if you want to use NM
[08:31] <rekrutacja> iNiku: ok, will try hashing it
[08:31] <Simthumb> rukuartic: out of 37gig
[08:32] <soundray> jab, it makes little difference for desktop type applications.
[08:32] <rekrutacja> thanks all
[08:32] <jbrouhard> Howdy...
[08:32] <GreatBriton> i get an error message when trying to activate the nvidia graphics driver on dapper, help please?
[08:32] <iNiku> rekrutacja: eth0 too
[08:32] <xetas> stjepen: its awesome, how r u liking it
[08:32] <iNiku> rekrutacja: if you want NM to manage that
[08:32] <jbrouhard> Anyone have trouble running sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre ?
[08:32] <madmike> jlmr, it really could be that grub is installed on the MBR and that XP doesn't want to boot because of this
[08:32] <Simthumb> rukuartic: do I have to free more space?
[08:32] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Oooooh. That'd be bad. What I reccommend is this, get a second hard drive, plug the blank hard drive in as the primary and the full hard drive (windows) as the second. When you install from the CD, tell it to install to the blank hard drive.
[08:32] <h3h_timo> is there a way to change the ethernet adapter that you are using?
[08:32] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Yea, you kinda need about 2 gigs for Linux and 512 for swap.
[08:32] <iNiku> damnit... why isn't my irssi hilight working
[08:32] <dxdemetriou> It didn't work the update-manager for upgrade yet. If I use the cd it will be ok with the update manager?
[08:32] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oy-vey
[08:33] <rukuartic> Simthumb: You PROBABLY could do it, but it'd be really tight and kinda risky
[08:33] <Simthumb> rukuartic: So how big a hard drive do I need?
[08:33] <buzzed> any good website capture utilities for offline viewing of a site
[08:33] <buzzed> ?
[08:33] <ak7> midna: found the problem... was running the md5sum on the torrent I'm still downloading :)
[08:33] <jlmr> madmike, but it is strange my windows partition is marked as active, and grub find tells me that grub is installed on hd0,4
[08:33] <dsas> buzzed: wget if you fancy the command line.
[08:33] <soundray> h3h_timo: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:33] <jab> soundray: were does the difference appear?
[08:33] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Wow...
[08:33] <rukuartic> Simthumb: 3 gigs minimum. I'm sitting comfortably on a 80 right now. Four partitions. Windows, Linux, Swap, and a drive to share between the twol
[08:33] <dsas> buzzed: There may be some graphical applications for it, I don't know any offhand though.
[08:33] <Booo> seem to a problem iso for ppc
[08:33] <GreatBriton> i get an error message when trying to activate the nvidia graphics driver on dapper, help please?
[08:33] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Wow!
[08:33] <rukuartic> Simthumb: No, don't get me wrong. You can install linux on your 37 gb hard drive. I really don't reccommend it though
[08:33] <soundray> jab, in numbercrunching/memory I/O intensive applications.
[08:34] <buzzed> wget may work
[08:34] <jab> soundray: ok, thanks :)
[08:34] <Simthumb> rukuartic: If I do install it on my 37gig,
[08:34] <h3h_timo> soundray, my etherent doesnt work.. i have a davicom etherent device.. and the driver is tulip compatible i think.. but it never connects.. it worked before i upgraded.. but not now
[08:34] <Simthumb> rukuartic: What are the risks?
[08:34] <avarab> heh, my ubuntu dist-upgrade failed
[08:34] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Losing my data?
[08:34] <avarab> 'python2.4-twisted: Depends: python2.4-twisted-conch (>= 1:0.6) but it is not installed'
[08:34] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Losing data, possibly messing up your hard drive
[08:34] <psycose> hi i'm using Dapper up to date, and i'm trying to install the nvidia-glx driver ... sounds like the procedure may as changed. any good doc ?
[08:34] <soundray> h3h_timo: is the tulip driver loaded?
[08:34] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oy
[08:34] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Well, not permanantly messing it up
[08:34] <[zero] > rukuartic:  it worked THANKX!!! :D:D:D
[08:34] <rukuartic> [zero] : No problem
[08:34] <Simthumb> rukuartic: So if I get 2 disk drives,
[08:34] <jaek> Simthumb, 37 gigs is plenty... just keep the porn down to managable levels
[08:34] <[zero] > rukuartic:  you are A LEGEND!!
[08:35] <rukuartic> [zero] : Its not permanant though. as soon as you reboot it will unmount. And no thats Seveas
[08:35] <Simthumb> jaek: the what?????
[08:35] <midna> soundray: YOU ARE MY HERO! my display works now! woohoo!
[08:35] <rukuartic> [zero] : To make it permanant you need to put this in fstab
[08:35] <jaek> Simthumb, you know what i'm talking about ;)
[08:35] <spikeh> I'm in Ubuntu, but where's the installation screen?
[08:35] <Simthumb> jaek: no I don't jaek
[08:35] <T-CAN> i have linux installed on a 7gig hard :)
[08:35] <rukuartic> jaek: he's got a 37 gig drive with 35 gig of data
[08:35] <spikeh> I did not download the LiveCD?
[08:35] <T-CAN> *harddrve
[08:35] <[zero] > rukuartic: fstab?
[08:35] <Simthumb> rukuartic: so will an 8gig be enough?
[08:35] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig no
[08:35] <madmike> jlmr, I'm out know-how here sorry... If I were you, i'd really install ntldr again (as you said) and try to install grub from the ubuntu live-cd again later (or with a knoppix-cd)
[08:35] <rukuartic> Sim plenty
[08:35] <soundray> midna: it's only a work-around. Read the wiki on ATI or NVidia-specific drivers.
[08:35] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig 3 checking summary errors
[08:35] <Simthumb> rukuartic: if I have 2 HDDs, can I choose to log on into Windows or Linux?
[08:35] <rukuartic> [zero] : yes, fstab is basically a file that tells Linux what to mount at the boot
[08:35] <dsas> spikeh: There should be an icon in the top corner saying "install"
[08:35] <GreatBriton> psycose: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia has worked for me, up until it comes to activating the driver, which fails for me and i need help with
[08:35] <soundray> midna: if that's what you have
[08:36] <jaek> Simthumb, rukuartic: oooh, i see....
[08:36] <rukuartic> Simthumb: You can have two or 1 hd and boot into linux or windows
[08:36] <dsas> spikeh: Top corner of the desktop that is.
[08:36] <rukuartic> Simthumb: If you have two, the first (primary/master) hard drive needs to have linux on it
[08:36] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: did you burn the cd image onto a cd?
[08:36] <spikeh> dsas I have clicked it but nothing is happening
[08:36] <[zero] > rukuartic: ah k, any chance you could tell me how to do that?
[08:36] <midna> soundray: yes i have nvidia.. thank you very much for the starting point.. i'll start lookin
[08:36] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oh I see
[08:36] <h3h_timo> soundray, i have no idea
[08:36] <rukuartic> [zero] : Sure thing. Here, i'll give you a line
[08:36] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig yes with Nero
[08:36] <soundray> !tell midna about nvidia
[08:36] <livevil> does someone know a valid italian server for dictionary?
[08:36] <jlmr> madmike,  any idea how to reinstall grub from livecd?
[08:36] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I have a used 8gig HDD from my old comp which I can plug into this one
[08:37] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: now leave the cd in the cd drive and reboot your computerr
[08:37] <soundray> h3h_timo: do a 'lsmod | grep tulip' and see if it generates any output.
[08:37] <Simthumb> rukuartic: but will the live CD modify my current HDD?
[08:37] <ubun> olhei desculpei mas no queria entrar neste canal.
[08:37] <dsas> spikeh: Odd, you did double click it right? It should launch a new window.
[08:37] <Simthumb> rukuartic: If I install it on this 37gig one
[08:37] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig i just did it
[08:37] <luna_> nerea_trevelez@hotmail.com
[08:37] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig it said 3 fails
[08:37] <rukuartic> [zero] : /dev/sda4       /media/share    vfat    rw,dev,exec,auto,user,sync,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[08:37] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig 3 checking summary fails
[08:37] <gil> i have a toshiba m40x....i cant for the life of me get the Card reader to pick up an inserted card
[08:37] <madmike> jlmr, it's almost the same as when you run it from a 'real' one. You just need to run grub with some more options
[08:37] <Auckland_Pig> hmmmm... how did you download the .iso file?
[08:37] <rukuartic> [zero] : put that line in /etc/fstab, and change /dev/sda4 to /dev/hdb5
[08:37] <spikeh> dsas yes I have double clicked it; and it says starting administrative application at the bottom but then it disappears
[08:37] <taan> hi, where did the X configuration utility go? (used to be xf86config, XFconfig, system-..., etc)
[08:37] <spikeh> dsas it was a bit hit and miss getting Xserver working; could this be the issue?
[08:37] <[zero] > ok
[08:38] <rukuartic> Simthumb: No, the live CD won't modify your current unless you tell it to install
[08:38] <T-CAN> rukuartic, vfat is read-only though right?
[08:38] <madmike> jlmr, 'grub-install /dev/hd...'
[08:38] <C_REATiVE_> what does dapper writes after install oem, how can i setup the users ?
[08:38] <rukuartic> Simthumb: What it does is use your RAM like a hard drive and puts itself on there
[08:38] <jlmr> madmike, ok, ill figure it out, thnx for your help
[08:38] <rukuartic> T-CAN: No, thats NTFS
[08:38] <Simthumb> rukuartic: that's what I mean...
[08:38] <luna_> luna_trevelez@hotmail.com
[08:38] <dsas> spikeh: Possibly, I'm not to hot on the live cd install personally. It may be better if someone else tries to help you.
[08:38] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oh...
[08:38] <h3h_timo> soundray... just like you typed it?
[08:38] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Nope. Until you double click "Install to HD" then it doesn't touch your hard drive.
[08:38] <kbrooks> luna_: DONT POST YOUR EMAIL
[08:38] <madmike> jlmr, your welcome ... good luck
[08:38] <kane777> so... the most common question today, i think... how do I upgrade to dapper??
[08:38] <Simthumb> rukuartic: So there is a pretty big risk I could lose some files?
[08:38] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig 3 checking summary fails
[08:39] <rukuartic> Simthumb: No, if you do it very carefully you should be fine.
[08:39] <T-CAN> rukuartic, so in fstab i can set umask to 0755 and be able to r/w/execute?
[08:39] <spikeh> could someone else please explain to me why the install script isn't working?
[08:39] <iNiku> kane777: read the topic
[08:39] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: you might probably need to download again...
[08:39] <rukuartic> Simthumb: But you'd have to be VERY careful. And I wouldn't risk it.
[08:39] <evi|one> I don't want ubuntu to place icons for the drives mounted in /media on the desktop. How do I stop it from doing that?
[08:39] <kane777> !upgrade
[08:39] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig ok... from where :) ?
[08:39] <soundray> h3h_timo: without the quotes.
[08:39] <rukuartic> T-CAN: ...I think. I'm not a fstab whiz.
[08:39] <Booo> has anyone here install the ppc version ?
[08:39] <Simthumb> rukuartic: LOL.
[08:39] <h3h_timo> alright.. ill try it
[08:39] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig from where have you downloaded it
[08:39] <Simthumb> rukuartic: What if I backup most of my stuff?
[08:39] <kbrooks> evi|one: you don't.
[08:39] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig what mirror
[08:39] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Mostly all the junk is games and my web designs
[08:39] <rukuartic> Simthumb: If you do decide to do it, first defragment your hard drive and put all your files together
[08:39] <pike__> evi|one: edit the /etc/fstab file
[08:40] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Yea, definately clear up space if you can.
[08:40] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Yeah...
[08:40] <iNiku> rekrutacja: did you get it working?
[08:40] <kbrooks> Sinistrad: games?
[08:40] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[08:40] <evi|one> kbrooks: you're positive there's no way to prevent that?
[08:40] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I'll try
[08:40] <kbrooks> Simthumb: what games?
[08:40] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I think I can clear up at least a few gigs
[08:40] <DavidJaq> How do I uninstall grub?
[08:40] <rukuartic> Simthumb: But yeah. Back up all your data, delete anything you don't need, move files from HD to CD's etc
[08:40] <rekrutacja> iNiku: not yet i have to take my sone to bathroom right now :-)
[08:40] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: hope it works
[08:40] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig burn to cd and test again?
[08:40] <Raskall> there. started dist-upgrade on my server too... *saying a small prayer*
[08:40] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I have  a download folder that's holding a ton of junk
[08:40] <shachaf> When I try to load the fglrx module, I get "*ERROR* firegl_stub_register failed". I can't find any information about that -- has anyone else had this problem?
[08:40] <kbrooks> evi|one: pretty sure, but less than positive
[08:40] <iNiku> rekrutacja: haha, okay, first things first :)
[08:40] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Also try clearing Temporary Files
[08:40] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig ill change cd
[08:40] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Lol, The Sims, The Sims 2, Sim stuff
[08:40] <phatmonkey> i am running dapper RC using http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu repositories. have these not been updated yet? I see no upgrades in apt
[08:40] <evi|one> kbrooks: alright, thanks
[08:41] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Thats C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name\Temporary I think
[08:41] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig maybie its a scratch on the cd ^^
[08:41] <Simthumb> rukuartic: And can Windows programs run in Linux?
[08:41] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: or you can do a md5 checksum before you burn
[08:41] <kbrooks> Simthumb: depends.
[08:41] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Most of them can with a program called "Wine"
[08:41] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: probably...
[08:41] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oy
[08:41] <Sub> !wine
[08:41] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux. Get the latest .deb from http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/ or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[08:41] <T-CAN> ubotu tell T-CAN about cli
[08:41] <rukuartic> Simthumb: But not all of them do, or at least very well.
[08:41] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig its downloading
[08:41] <Auckland_Pig> !md5
[08:41] <ubotu> I guess md5 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[08:41] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oh boy....
[08:41] <rukuartic> Simthumb: There, read what ubotu just said about wine.
[08:41] <dsas> phatmonkey: I'm using the same one, they are updated.
[08:41] <[zero] > rukuartic: do I put that line in a file for fstab? :S
[08:41] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig msn?
[08:41] <DavidJaq> How do I uninstall grub?
[08:41] <uscg_corey> anyone know when i try to run a steaming video hru firefox with the totem xine player it shows a blue screen where ideo should be then screen goes black
[08:41] <iNiku> so boring... no updates in over 24 hours, I think :)
[08:41] <kbrooks> !tell me about wine
[08:41] <phatmonkey> dsas, are there many packages? I got two earlier today, but that's it
[08:42] <vermoos> scifi: it says "run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal to update your system completely."
[08:42] <rukuartic> [zero] : Yep. Make sure you're editing the file as root (gksudo gedit /etc/fstab)
[08:42] <Simthumb> rukuartic: ah ok
[08:42] <[zero] > kk
[08:42] <scifi> vermoos: yep sounds right
[08:42] <Simthumb> rukuartic: But,
[08:42] <psycose> GreatBriton Can Geforce fx 5200 be considered as geforce1 or geforce2 ?
[08:42] <Simthumb> rukuartic: If I wanna run my games or stuff,
[08:42] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: verify the iso before you burn
[08:42] <Ohzie> Anybody having issues with getting their xserver running, install the new version of your nvidia or ati modules by installing the package linux-restricted-modules-(uname -r)
[08:42] <dsas> phatmonkey: You're probably updated to the final release
[08:42] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I can just log onto Windows and run them right?
[08:42] <scifi> vermoos: mines installing installing remaining updates
[08:42] <bionic> any descent video editing prog for linux?
[08:42] <gil> will someone please help me with a toshiba built in card reader....
[08:42] <soundray> Simthumb: you'd have to reboot.
[08:42] <dsas> phatmonkey: Have you ran "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[08:42] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I just wanna keep Ubuntu for my office-stuff
[08:42] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Yeah. Games are best run from windows.
[08:43] <Fast> is the a non-live cd installer for breezy?
[08:43] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Thats what I do :P
[08:43] <Simthumb> soundray: That's not a big deal for me :P
[08:43] <soundray> bionic: cinelerra seems to make waves
[08:43] <Simthumb> rukuartic: heheheh :P
[08:43] <phatmonkey> dsas, yes. is there any sneaky way to tell what i am running?
[08:43] <soundray> Simthumb: read the wiki on dual booting
[08:43] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig ugotmsn?
[08:43] <soundray> !tell Simthumb about dualboot
[08:43] <phatmonkey> i'm guessing the rc is the same, so suppose not
[08:43] <Simthumb> rukuartic: There's wiki on that?
[08:43] <vermoos> scifi: ... which is taking a while....
[08:43] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I've been looking all night for it!
[08:43] <Auckland_Pig> JyZky: no...
[08:43] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Its also difficult to share files between Windows and Linux... NTFS and EXT3 (linux) don't talk with each other.
[08:43] <Simthumb> rukuartic: ROFL
[08:43] <madmike> !tell madmike about dualboot
[08:43] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Oh yeah, its called dual booting.
[08:43] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig kk
[08:43] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig brb
[08:43] <T-CAN> ubotu tell T-CAN about permissions
[08:43] <rukuartic> madmike: /msg ubotu dual booting
[08:44] <Simthumb> rukuartic: /me goes to look
[08:44] <morten__> you can share files easily if you get a nfs server for windows
[08:44] <Raskall> what the heck? Is there a 10 CD maximum on shipit now? Who do I call to get/buy more cd's? I'm starting up my ubuntu company now and need more than 10 cd's.
[08:44] <rukuartic> morten__: I just made a fat32 share
[08:44] <soundray> morten__: only if you have at least two computers, though ;)
[08:44] <dsas> phatmonkey: What does dpkg -l pcmicia-cs give you?
[08:44] <BWD> what package do i need to install to play mp3s?
[08:45] <rukuartic> Raskall: Its not like windows where you can only use the CD once and it self destruscts :P
[08:45] <gil> ohzie:?
[08:45] <dsas> !tell bwd about mp3
[08:45] <BWD> dsas: thank you
[08:45] <FunnyLookinHat> Raskall, yea....  1 CD is still enough for a whole company...  : )
[08:45] <Raskall> rukuartic: I know, but I plan to get more than 10 customers for my company. :)
[08:45] <Simthumb> rukuartic: is it a good idea to have all my stuff backed up by a comp tech?
[08:45] <Simthumb> rukuartic: b/c I have a broken cd burner
[08:45] <jason^> i'm having problems with the installer, it just keeps blinking and my monitors say it's in power save mode
[08:45] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Nooo you can do al that yourself
[08:45] <sally_> how do I get the network manager applet to show?  I installed gnome-network-manager
[08:45] <soundray> Raskall: you're allowed to make your own copies
[08:45] <RandolphCarter> hmm, beagle-build-in seems to have got itself stuck in an infinite loop (posting output of ltrace)
[08:45] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Ha-ha, thought so
[08:45] <Ohzie> gil: nevermind
[08:46] <mjmac> anyone gotten Xgl/Compiz working on AMD64/nvidia?
[08:46] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Ooooh. Then yea it might be nice to do that
[08:46] <FunnyLookinHat> Raskall, if you want more give me your address and 1$ per CD and I'll create as many as you would like   : )
[08:46] <Simthumb> rukuartic: oh lol
[08:46] <Raskall> FunnyLookinHat: I am going to sell server installations of ubuntu and SLA's to small and medium size companies. The customers will probably like to get "original" cd's instead of a home-burned one
[08:46] <morten__> soundray, yes
[08:46] <mjmac> compiz segfaults when i run it
[08:46] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Just purchase a cheap hard drive
[08:46] <rukuartic> Simthumb: They're not too expensive
[08:46] <gil> ohzie: i am sorry i am not regsitered
[08:46] <nexus10> Can anyone advise what's the best way to share a server directory with Linux laptops? Tried NFS (which is s_l_o_w), smbfs(cannot control perms), sshfs(cannot get it to automount) -- recommendations?
[08:46] <Simthumb> rukuartic: yeah...
[08:46] <gil> can you please tell me what info you have
[08:46] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I have an old one that's 8gigs
[08:46] <FunnyLookinHat> Raskall, ooh, well if that's the case....  you should pay shipit rather than just make a profit off of what they are giving you for free.
[08:46] <rukuartic> Simthumb: That works
[08:46] <Booo> I am newbie at this what iso should i be d/l if i want to have dapper install permantely?
[08:46] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Problem is, I'm afraid to install it myself - I'm not much of a hardware person
[08:46] <rukuartic> Raskall: Yeah.
[08:46] <Simthumb> rukuartic: lol
[08:46] <shachaf> sally_: Run "nm-applet".
[08:46] <FunnyLookinHat> Raskall, you may run into some issues selling those CDs....  legal issues.
[08:47] <shachaf> sally_: Or log out and back in.
[08:47] <krazykit> Booo: either the alternative install or the livecd
[08:47] <nomis__> my mouse cursor flickers when I load a programm, since I use the nvidia-glx. Anybody an idea what I can do?
[08:47] <Raskall> FunnyLookinHat: hence "who do I call to get/buy more cd's"
[08:47] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Its not too hard. Get help from a friend
[08:47] <Simthumb> rukuartic: yeah
[08:47] <Ohzie> gil: Oh.
[08:47] <Raskall> FunnyLookinHat: not selling cd's. selling a server install.
[08:47] <BWD> nomis__: i experience the same thing
[08:47] <Sithik> hey all
[08:47] <soundray> nexus10: how slow is NFS for you? Works fine for me.
[08:47] <Sithik> quick question
[08:47] <Simthumb> rukuartic: ok by deleting some old files, I cleared up about another gig
[08:48] <rukuartic> Simthumb: That works
[08:48] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I have about 4 gigs free
[08:48] <jayrod06> hey guys
[08:48] <Booo> krazykit: I dont see liveCD
[08:48] <Simthumb> rukuartic is that enough?
[08:48] <Sithik> where exactly can i download the LiveCD?
[08:48] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Well, the more the better.
[08:48] <Fast> the installer keeps locking up on the dapper live install cd... is there a dapper installer that isn't combined with a live cd?
[08:48] <Simthumb> rukuartic: cool :D
[08:48] <rukuartic> Booo: Desktop = livecd
[08:48] <dsas> Booo: It's called the desktop cd
[08:48] <Raskall> FunnyLookinHat: for companies that need/want to save money buying expensive firewalls, windows servers and mail servers
[08:48] <michaels> (gedit:12894): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib - what does this mean?
[08:48] <ben42> a friend of mine updated to dapper today and lost all his network - devices besides the loopback-device
[08:48] <dsas> Fast: Get the 'alternative' cd
[08:48] <jayrod06> anyone run it on a mac yet? preferably a macbook or macbook pro
[08:48] <FunnyLookinHat> Raskall, wait...  so you're just installing a server for them?  then use burned CDs.   : )
[08:48] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Yep
[08:48] <hazart> Is there a way to rebuild all modules that was made with module-assistant when a new kernel gets installed? If not, automatic updates could make the system boot a new kernel, without AFS modules installed.
[08:48] <ben42> is it a known problem?
[08:48] <kenni> Does new ubuntu support nvidia geforce 7900gt graphics card?  (The doc at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia doesn't do the trick - the driver fails to recognice the card apparently - even claiming the card is of ATI brand in the xorg.conf!).
[08:48] <Booo> dsas which is better?
[08:48] <dsas> jayrod06: People have.
[08:48] <nexus10> soundray: about 3+ minutes to connect :-(
[08:48] <FunnyLookinHat> Sounds like you should custom build an OEM type CD anyways
[08:48] <Simthumb> rukuartic: And did you order the LiveCD by mail?
[08:48] <sally_> shachaf: I've used network-manager applet before and I thought it showed a list of available access points when you click on it.  when I click on this icon it doesnt show a list of access points, it just lets me configure the interface through the ubuntu network-admin, am I missing something?
[08:48] <rendo> How do you do that 3d moving of the desktop in Dapper?
[08:48] <soundray> nexus10: that can be helped...
[08:48] <FunnyLookinHat> kenni, Yes, I use it and works great
[08:48] <no0ke> !rc
[08:48] <ubotu> To Upgrade from RC to final, just: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:48] <rukuartic> Raskall: They have the images to stamp ont he CD, just print them out and put them on yourself
[08:48] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Any idea how long it really takes? (they say 4-6 weeks,I just ordered it yesterday)
[08:49] <Raskall> FunnyLookinHat: Customers often like a physical product they can touch and that looks good in their shelf.
[08:49] <FunnyLookinHat> kenni, the 8756 driver (newest) is the only one that supports it
[08:49] <dsas> Booo: It depends, alternative is better for OEMs, server installs, RAID. Desktop is better if you want to try first, or want to install using a graphical installer.
[08:49] <Jeeves_> !breezy?
[08:49] <ubotu> Breezy was the current stable version of Ubuntu. If you would like to upgrade to it, the guide to upgrading to Breezy is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:49] <kenni> FunnyLookinHat, what are we doing wrong here?
[08:49] <shachaf> sally_: Yes, that's a different applet.
[08:49] <conn> hi, is it possible to rename partition numbers? e.g., rename hda7 to hda2 (providing hda2 doesn't already exist)?
[08:49] <nexus10> soundray: great!
[08:49] <Jeeves_> !dapper?
[08:49] <shachaf> sally_: Did you run nm-applet?
[08:49] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[08:49] <FunnyLookinHat> Raskall, this is true.  Well email shipit and see if they'll sell you a bulk/discount
[08:49] <rukuartic> Raskall: Asides. Linux is free, you can't put a price on it. I think the only thing you could put on the price was hardware. Um... Anyone in here a GPL wizard?
[08:49] <soundray> nexus10: do you have DHCP?
[08:49] <pianoboy3333> What's the difference between Native and Autohinter in fontconfig?
[08:49] <Booo> dsas: how to i install from liveCD to make it permantly is this an option
[08:49] <FunnyLookinHat> kenni, not sure.  Follow the directions as carefully as possible.  I can help troubleshoot you in about 6 hours when I am home from work
[08:49] <rukuartic> Simthumb: No clue =\
[08:49] <dxdemetriou> In Breezy my ethernet is eth0. In Dapper is eth1 after upgrade. Can I change this?
[08:49] <zkl-laptop> wtf, i'm missing practically all of gnome after a fresh install
[08:49] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Lol.
[08:49] <nexus10> soundray: nope, fixed IPs
[08:49] <djm62> Where is the Nelson Mandela (NRM?) footage on an upgraded install?
[08:49] <rukuartic> Simthumb: I downloaded the beta, and I've been running that for a while
[08:49] <FunnyLookinHat> Booo, there should be a desktop shortcut labeled "Install" or omething on the liveCD
[08:50] <dsas> Booo: There should be an icon on the desktop saying "install"
[08:50] <rukuartic> djm62: thats in Examples
[08:50] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oh I see
[08:50] <Booo> ok thanks
[08:50] <rekrutacja> iNiku: bad bad bad
[08:50] <FunnyLookinHat> Booo, only works on the newest live CDs
[08:50] <PHiSQuaRE> grrr, I hate switching distros, I'm so damned lost now....
[08:50] <PHiSQuaRE> heh
[08:50] <soundray> nexus10: have you got all your laptops listed in /etc/hosts on the server?
[08:50] <Booo> FunnyLookinHat:?
[08:50] <shachaf> rukuartic: You could sell it for as much as you like.
[08:50] <crazy_penguin> dxdemetriou: change it in the iftab file
[08:50] <sally_> shachaf: yeah but it just gives one grey-ed out choice that says wired network
[08:50] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I would've d/led it, but 1) I don't have a working CD burner, 2) I have dialup  '<
[08:50] <nexus10> soundray: yes
[08:50] <FunnyHat_Work> Sorry guys, i have to work...  I can help you in about 6 hours when I am home
[08:50] <shachaf> rukuartic: But you have to let the person you sell it to give it away.
[08:50] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Ooooooh. burn. Is your modem a software modem or a hardware modem?
[08:50] <C_REATiVE_> who installed 6.06 in oem ? plz msg me
[08:50] <kenni> FunnyLookinHat, where do you get the 8756 driver?  Are you downloading from nvidias site or something?
[08:51] <shachaf> sally_: Right click-> Enable wireless, if it's disabled?
[08:51] <rukuartic> shachaf: You sure about that? I thought it was illegal to put a price on redistributed GPL software
[08:51] <Sub> rukuartic, no itz not.
[08:51] <rekrutacja> iNiku: after restarting my computer with changed network/interfaces nothing happened: i had to start dhclient manually and networkmanager doesn't work
[08:51] <serj> someone with the lates ubuntu 6.06 please paste me a line of /etc/apt/sources.list so i can upgrade from breezy to the current
[08:51] <nexus10> soundray: fom server -- 'ssh laptop' (for example) works fine
[08:51] <serj> someone with the lates ubuntu 6.06 please paste me a line of /etc/apt/sources.list so i can upgrade from breezy to the current
[08:51] <dsas> rukuartic: Nope, you can sell it for as much as you like (go checkout redhat.com)
[08:51] <Simthumb> rukuartic: hardware modem methinks
[08:51] <sally_> shachaf: I only have "enable networking" and it's checked
[08:51] <Simthumb> rukuartic: My computer was custom made by a friend
[08:51] <conn> serj: don't do that, use update-manager
[08:51] <Simthumb> rukuartic: I hardly know anything about it Lol
[08:51] <Sub> serj, you just do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:51] <shachaf> sally_: Is the wireless card working otherwise?
[08:51] <dxdemetriou> crazy_penguin: its eth0 in this file
[08:51] <rukuartic> dsas: Hahaha
[08:51] <serj> conn, which ine
[08:51] <Sub> or "gksudo "update-manager -d"
[08:51] <serj> one
[08:51] <rukuartic> Simthumb: eh... I've never had luck with linux and modems
[08:52] <Simthumb> rukuartic: It took me a whole day once to d/l a 100mb file (PSP trial)
[08:52] <Simthumb> HUH?
[08:52] <sally_> shachaf: yeah it's connected now
[08:52] <Raskall> rukuartic: I am not putting a prize on the os. I will charge about $400 for an initial install and setup of ubuntu. I will also sell SLA's including 5 hours remote maintenance pr. month for $400.
[08:52] <Simthumb> rukuartic: UH-oh
[08:52] <soundray> nexus10: I'm trying to remember... I had a similar problem ages ago... Something to do with /etc/hosts.allow... Have you read the wiki hints on NFS?
[08:52] <conn> serj: what sub said, heh
[08:52] <shachaf> sally_: Hmm.
[08:52] <serj> someone with the lates ubuntu 6.06 please paste me a line of /etc/apt/sources.list so i can upgrade from breezy to the current
[08:52] <Simthumb> rukuartic: B/c I have software to go with my dialup
[08:52] <rukuartic> Simthumb:
[08:52] <shachaf> sally_: Oh, I know.
[08:52] <skippy> hrm.   my DVD image download doesn't match the checksums.  That sucks.
[08:52] <Simthumb> rukuartic: a 3rd party dialer
[08:52] <rukuartic> serj: source-o-matic
[08:52] <Simthumb> rukuartic it uses proxies
[08:52] <FunnyHat_Work> kenni, you can get it from Synaptic.
[08:52] <eggzeck> Dapper, yay
[08:52] <Simthumb> rukuartic: O.O
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[08:52] <soundray> !tell nexus10 about nfs
[08:52] <shachaf> sally_: Edit /etc/network/interfaces and comment out any lines that say anything about the interfaces.
[08:53] <nexus10> soundray: hosts.allow! great idea, will go check. And I'll go through the NFS wiki stuff again. Ta
[08:53] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Ooof. Um... No clue how you'd do that in linux. I know you can do it if you havfe the right hardware, but not sure how to do it =\
[08:53] <skippy> can someone post here their checksum for the i386 Dapper dvd, please?
[08:53] <eugman> !nvidia
[08:53] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:53] <shachaf> sally_: Then restart dbus (/etc/init.d/dbus restart).
[08:53] <shachaf> sally_: It should work.
[08:53] <soundray> nexus10: cheers m8 ;)
[08:53] <kenni> FunnyHat_Work, multiverse repository or something?  (Just failed a search for it).
[08:53] <dxdemetriou> My ethernet is eth0 in iftab, but the Dapper find it as eth1. Can I change this?
[08:53] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Ouch
[08:53] <Raskall> hey... dapper isn't available for any of you guys until approximately *checking remaining download time* 35 minutes.
[08:53] <Raskall> ;)
[08:53] <rukuartic> What is dbus shachaf?
[08:53] <Simthumb> rukuartic: What about that thingamajig that Ubotu talked about?
[08:53] <Simthumb> rukuartic: that lets me run Win progarms on Linux?
[08:54] <eugman> Hey, is there a torrent I can use to help things?
[08:54] <dsas> dxdemetriou: It is possible, I can't remember how to do it.
[08:54] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Wine? Yeah... I know. I've never tried that before.
[08:54] <Booo> how to boot liveCD to install?
[08:54] <rukuartic> eugman: Eh, I think there's something in the channel message
[08:54] <dsas> rukuartic: dbus is a inter process communication process.
[08:54] <Simthumb> rukuartic: ouch
[08:54] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oh well, I'll just dive
[08:54] <midna> soundray: i'm in dapper now thanks very much...
[08:54] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Heh, good for you
[08:54] <Simthumb> rukuartic: If it doesn't work I'll boot in Windows and use that
[08:54] <serj> synaptic wont do it yo'all lamers
[08:54] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Is Ubuntu easy to uninstall?
[08:54] <serj> just paste me that damn line
[08:54] <soundray> midna: :)
[08:54] <rukuartic> serj: Language.
[08:54] <sally_> shachaf, yes!  thanks a lot, that worked
[08:54] <rendo> How do you do that 3d moving of the desktop in Dapper?
[08:54] <shachaf> rukuartic: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus
[08:55] <spikeh> X is giving me an error, saying restart GDM and throwing me back to terminal but I can't type any commands
[08:55] <rukuartic> serj: Sourceomatic would be the nice to work with. juse that
[08:55] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Oh I know - My dad has a USB stick I could prolly borrow to back up my stuff
[08:55] <eugman> Well, yeah rukuartic. But then I'd have to have some common sense to look up and take the initiative. That's never any fun. :)
[08:55] <T-CAN> if i am running breezy 5.10, whats the easiest way to upgrade to dapper?
[08:55] <rukuartic> rendo: thats XGL http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto
[08:55] <[Surge] > !repos
[08:55] <Simthumb> rukuartic: Only holds about 200 mb but I can store all my **reall** important stuff
[08:55] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:55] <serj> i'll try soureceomatica
[08:55] <shachaf> sally_: I had the same problem when I tried to enable network-manager, a while ago.
[08:55] <Simthumb> *really
[08:55] <hazart> !xgl
[08:55] <ubotu> from memory, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[08:55] <skippy> can someone post here their checksum for the i386 Dapper dvd, please?
[08:56] <eugman> T-CAN, I think the update manager. It should give you the option to upgrade some time today. It's simple, easy to follow and gui based.
[08:56] <midna> !nvidia
[08:56] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:56] <[Surge] > Where can I find a list of the packages in Dapper Drake?
[08:56] <soundray> skippy: is it not on the download site anymore?
[08:56] <Sub> skippy, when you put the DVD in you can test the disk.
[08:56] <pipp0> hello
[08:56] <spikeh> what does Ctrl + Alt + F2 do?
[08:56] <spikeh> because it starts Xserver
[08:56] <Simthumb> rukuartic: do you know if Wine comes with Ubuntu?
[08:56] <spikeh> when I type startx
[08:56] <Simthumb> rukuartic: or do I have to manually d/l it?
[08:56] <pipp0> who was lookig telly last day ?
[08:56] <aedwards323> !ubuntu-base
[08:56] <ubotu> aedwards323: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:57] <pipp0> there was veronica mars
[08:57] <psycose> hi
[08:57] <rukuartic> Simthumb: I actualy don't know that
[08:57] <FunnyHat_Work> kenni, yes, multiverse
[08:57] <pipp0> lokk this http://channels.lockergnome.com/linux/archives/20050414_ubuntu_meets_veronica_mars.phtml
[08:57] <soundray> spikeh, it switches to a text console. F1-F6 should all do the same (switching to different consoles)
[08:57] <Simthumb> rukuartic: ok :)
[08:57] <FunnyHat_Work> ubotu, tell kenni about sources
[08:57] <dsas> Simthumb: Yes, you have to enable universe in "add/remove programs" then search for it
[08:57] <Simthumb> rukuartic: thanks for all your help. You cleared a lotta stuff up :D
[08:57] <eugman> spikeh, Ctrl + Alt +F2 take you to the secondary terminal I believe.
[08:57] <psycose> well i got a brand new Dapper with Asus K8N (integrated sound device) but i can't get sound any help ?
[08:57] <Simthumb> dsas: universe?
[08:57] <nibu> !repos
[08:57] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:57] <buzzed> flying toasters?
[08:58] <soundray> !tell psycose about sound
[08:58] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Np man
[08:58] <soundray> psycose: ubotu sent you some sound troubleshooting links
[08:58] <psycose> thanks
[08:58] <xiko> "xgl
[08:58] <xiko> !xgl
[08:58] <ubotu> somebody said xgl was "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[08:58] <rukuartic> Simthumb: Come back if you got questions, I only know a little bit. There are geniuses here.
[08:58] <shachaf> I'm going to try to use an older kernel and see if the ATI drivers work.
[08:59] <dsas> Simthumb: the "show unsupported applications" button in add/remove applications
[08:59] <spikeh> soundray: how comes when I do "startx" on the 2nd terminal, the installer script won't work?
[08:59] <soundray> rukuartic: always the modest one ;)
[08:59] <sally_> everytime dapper boots on my laptop it checks my windows partition which takes forever, how do I stop that?
[08:59] <spikeh> soundray: because the 1st terminal goes weird and won't accept any commands
[08:59] <Simthumb> rukuartic: sure will :d
[08:59] <rukuartic> soundray: no really. half my solutions are "Have you tried rebooting?" i'm still in the windows era.
[08:59] <soundray> spikeh: what installer script?
[08:59] <Simthumb> rukuartic: *:D
[08:59] <spikeh> soundray the dapper installer
[08:59] <Simthumb> dsas: oh after I install Ubuntu?
[09:00] <wastrel> #ubuntu
[09:00] <rukuartic> Simthumb: I didn't know if it was in the repositories
[09:00] <dsas> Simthumb: Probably. I'm not sure if you can install applications while using the live cd.
[09:00] <rukuartic> Simthumb: One nice thing about Ubuntu is its really easy to install stuff. Find a linux program you like? "sudo apt-get install <program name"
[09:00] <soundray> rukuartic: rebooting is not as bad as some make it out to be.
[09:00] <Simthumb> rukuartic: cool! :D
[09:00] <rukuartic> Simthumb: It doesn't have EVERYTHING but it does have a LOT of stuff
[09:01] <scifi> vermoos: almost done , hows it going ?
[09:01] <Simthumb> Dsas: do you know if Ubuntu comes with a usermanual?
[09:01] <dsas> Simthumb: yep
[09:01] <rukuartic> Simthumb: #ubuntu and wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:01] <Simthumb> dsas: the LiveCD
[09:01] <lefty_2nd> yes you can simthumb -need to  boot as persistent and setup a partition to store it thou
[09:01] <skippy> the published MD5 sums are different for the i386-desktop at these two locations:   http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/   and   http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/MD5SUMS
[09:01] <aedwards323> does anyone know how to get around the ubuntu-base issue?
[09:01] <Simthumb> dsas: COOL!! :D
[09:01] <skippy> which is the correct MD5?
[09:01] <dsas> Simthumb: it should be under system->help->system documentation
[09:01] <PHiSQuaRE> I would like to remove the evolution suite from my ubuntu install, when I do an apt-get remove evolution it lists ubuntu-desktop as one of the packages it is going to remove.  What is this package?  Do I need it?
[09:01] <Simthumb> o.O
[09:01] <Simthumb> O.o
[09:01] <dsas> !tell PHiSQuaRE about ubuntu-desktop
[09:01] <wastrel> ubuntu-desktop is a wrapper you don't need
[09:01] <pipp0> attention on every devices for pc is possible to find the chipset for tpm
[09:01] <FunnyHat_Work> PHiSQuaRE, you will be ok.
[09:02] <FunnyHat_Work> it's like an imaginary package...
[09:02] <N3o21> hi again... I already have linux-source, but the ./configure returns: No acceptible C compiler found in $PATH. But I have installed  gcc (4:4.0.3-1)
[09:02] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig ubuntu should have Internet install
[09:02] <Simthumb> dsas: ok thanks :D
[09:02] <dsas> N3o21: Try installing build-essential
[09:02] <DBO> PHiSQuaRE, it may however effect future upgrades if new packages get added to the default install
[09:02] <rukuartic> N3o21: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:02] <javiolo> is safe to uninstall evolution ?
[09:02] <soundray> !tell N3o21 about b-e
[09:02] <dsas> javiolo: yeah
[09:02] <wastrel> "hella"
[09:02] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig that it downloads all files straight from internet straight to install
[09:02] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig if error file it download it again
[09:02] <soundray> spikeh, have you looked at the boot help screens?
[09:02] <kane777> errr. does i mess something if i changet the repositories to dapper and decided to uninstall some things before atp-get dist-upgrade??? now it's downloading quite a few packages...
[09:02] <N3o21> i can't
[09:02] <revmouse> how do I get buttons 4 and 5 on my mouse to work?
[09:03] <aedwards323> does anyone know how to get around the ubuntu-base issue?
[09:03] <N3o21> I haven't iinternet connection in ubuntu
[09:03] <DBO> !mouse
[09:03] <ubotu> mouse is, like, Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev Installing extra cursor themes can be done easily with gcursor
[09:03] <soundray> spikeh: you may have to use the vga= option
[09:03] <siofwolves> Anonymous :
[09:03] <siofwolves> 5/5 . Hurry up download I want to burn this to CD and start playing with it!  Much better than windows.< one happy torrenter :)
[09:03] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig iam burning now
[09:03] <revmouse> DBO, thx
[09:03] <wastrel> hmm i suppose i should upgrade before i try to get my junk working.
[09:03] <stan> does "Turn-key LAMP installation for this common deployment scenario" from the dapper releases notes refer to anything specific?
[09:04] <kane777> errr. does i mess something if i changet the repositories to dapper and decided to uninstall some things before atp-get dist-upgrade??? now it's downloading quite a few packages... should I stop it??
[09:04] <ucordes> hey all can anybody tell me what the "alternate" 6.06 packages are??
[09:04] <ucordes> pls
[09:04] <soundray> kane777: while it's still downloading you can safely interrupt.
[09:04] <kenni> FunnyHat_Work, we got new nvidia-glx package ...
[09:04] <eugman> stan, I THINK it MAY mean you can have a lamp server install mode from the cd. I MAY be wrong.
[09:05] <DBO> ucordes, the alternate 6.06 install CD is a traditional text based installer for ubuntu
[09:05] <eugman> ucordes, Alternate == Text installer.
[09:05] <soundray> ucordes: they are for text mode installs in case of graphics difficulties.
[09:05] <vermoos> scifi: does it look any different? do you have to restart?
[09:05] <kane777> soundray, well that's my question... should I??
[09:05] <ucordes> thanks a lot
[09:05] <basvg> hi all... just succesfully installed ubuntu dapper drake... but it seems I can't play mp3's. Which... codec / package should I install ?
[09:05] <lefty_2nd> For anyone like me who is trying to get ubuntu to run from live cd and save settings on usb drive or hdd, read this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDPersistence It worked well :)
[09:05] <frank_> !mp3
[09:05] <ubotu> [mp3]  a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:05] <eugman> basvg, lame I think but I may be wrong.
[09:05] <soundray> kane777: if you want to save on download time, you could. I personally would just let it work overnight.
[09:05] <basvg> aja, the restricted formats page
[09:06] <basvg> thanks frank_
[09:06] <Fee^> basvg: lame and gstreamer plugins that refer to them
[09:06] <eugman> Man I'm so glad I upgraded a day early.
[09:06] <scifi> vermoos: i wud suspect u wud need to restart, but im going to do a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" first
[09:06] <aedwards323> Does anyone know how to get around the ubuntu-base issue?
[09:06] <Sub> aedwards232, what do u mean?
[09:06] <eugman> aedwards323, which is?
[09:06] <Snake> Happy dapper day all!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:06] <ucordes> hehe
[09:06] <emark2k> On a ppc/Mac:  have 2 ATA and 1 SATA discs.  one of ATA drives has partition I'd like to try ubuntu on as first linux, will I be able to install the multiple linux partions on that one Mac partition, or do I have to re-partition the whole drive?
[09:06] <Shutdown> my ati graphics card is running at 640x480. I have tried installing the drivers, but I can't do it through the shell. If anyone could tell me what to do that would just make my day.
[09:06] <nnz> 128 mb of ram too small for dapper live cd? coz its been booting for 5++ mins
[09:06] <FunnyHat_Work> Shutdown, don't use the shell ever!!!
[09:07] <Shutdown> sorry
[09:07] <ucordes> does anyone have experience with 6.06 and ati x700 mobility graphics?
[09:07] <FunnyHat_Work> ubotu, tell Shutdown about ati
[09:07] <aedwards323> Sub, I did a sudo update-manager -d and it said it could not locate the ubuntu-base package
[09:07] <DBO> nnz, thats a little bit tight yeah...
[09:07] <Sub> ?
[09:07] <FunnyHat_Work> Shutdown, sorry, using shell w/ ubuntu is not good   ; )
[09:07] <Snake> FunnyHat_Work: why not use the shell?? (Just out of curiosity)
[09:07] <FunnyHat_Work> Shutdown, check the msg from ubuto
[09:07] <nnz> but it will work ?
[09:07] <soundray> nnz: yes, that's tight. It will probably boot eventually, though.
[09:07] <shachaf> Hardware acceleration works again! I had to boot the -386 kernel, rather than the -k7.
[09:07] <aedwards323> it said to report it as a bug, which I just might do
[09:07] <scifi> vermoos: wow it wants to download a further 372MB ^^
[09:07] <dsas> aedwards323: Is it currently installed?
[09:07] <C_REATiVE_> who installed 6.06 in oem ? plz msg me
[09:07] <sally_> everytime dapper boots on my laptop it checks my windows partition which takes forever, how do I stop that?
[09:07] <BleedingThrough> anyone used xubuntu yet?... any good?
[09:07] <aedwards323> ubuntu-base? lemmie see
[09:07] <jhenn> BleedingThrough: yes
[09:07] <FunnyHat_Work> Snake, Ubuntu is designed to not sure terminal/console to make it more user friendly.  Everything can/should be done through synaptic using .deb packages from repositories
[09:07] <kenni> I run default ubuntu ... I followed wiki .. why does not X detect the nvidia 7900gt_
[09:08] <jhenn> BleedingThrough: its fast
[09:08] <FunnyHat_Work> Snake, ever used Debian?
[09:08] <aedwards323> its not installed
[09:08] <dsas> FunnyHat_Work: Synaptic is "advanced" ;) gnome-app-install!
[09:08] <soundray> sally_: what exactly does it do in the way of "checking"?
[09:08] <Snake> FunnyHat_Work: No, but I see no problems with apt-get.
[09:08] <johnm1019> I hear some jive that supposedly it was going to be really easy to install XGL in dapper -- is this the case?
[09:08] <FunnyHat_Work> dsas, hah!
[09:08] <BleedingThrough> even on a crappy computer?
[09:08] <dsas> aedwards323:Try installing it first then upgrading.
[09:08] <FunnyHat_Work> Snake, ahh, well apt-get is just as good
[09:08] <Snake> FunnyHat_Work: or aptitude for that matter. since synaptic is a overlay of that
[09:08] <jhenn> johnm1019: yes apt-get install xgl
[09:08] <kenni> 0000:03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0291 (rev a1)  ... kernel is : 2.6.15-23-amd64-k8
[09:08] <jhenn> johnm1019: its a trap though
[09:08] <eugman> Kenni, Have you tried doing an xserver reconfigure to see if it can detect it properly now?
[09:08] <FunnyHat_Work> Snake, what I meant was don't use binary installers whenever possible, use the apt-get ot get from official repos
[09:09] <emark2k> anyone familiar w/ PPC boot and partitioning?
[09:09] <FunnyHat_Work> Snake, right right.
[09:09] <Snake> FunnyHat_Work: ah, of course
[09:09] <Fee^> anyone else notice a bunch of apps gone from the program menus from Badger > Dapper?  gconf-edit, etc?
[09:09] <kenni> eugman, no, thanx for the idea man!
[09:09] <jhenn> emark2k: ppc doesn't need a /boot partition
[09:09] <johnm1019> jhenn, what do you mean a trap :-\
[09:09] <aedwards323> it cant find it
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[09:09] <dsas> Fee^: yeah, it was done purposefully
[09:09] <jhenn> johnm1019: non-free drivers
[09:09] <Snake> FunnyHat_Work: I thought you ment that as "Never use shell" as in, never at all :)
[09:09] <scifi> vermoos: another 55mins :P
[09:09] <dsas> aedwards323: Hmm, sorry, not sure then.
[09:09] <johnm1019> jhenn, as in they cost money or they aren't open source
[09:09] <Fee^> dsas: i figured...removing more bullets from the monkey's loaded guns
[09:09] <Fee^> :)
[09:09] <soundray> emark2k: what you want to do will probably work. Just give it permission to subdivide that one partition.
[09:09] <Fee^> i'm a power-user, so it was no biggie
[09:09] <jhenn> johnm1019: free as in freedom
[09:09] <Fee^> i flex command line yo :)
[09:09] <johnm1019> jhenn, gotcha -- but they work?
[09:10] <jhenn> !tell johnm1019 about xgl
[09:10] <kirkunit> whoa.. busy in here... i wonder why :)
[09:10] <emark2k> Jhenn and soundray, thank you very much
[09:10] <vermoos> scifi: i'd say about 40 -
[09:10] <kenni> eugman, how do you reconfigure in ubuntu?  (I tried dpkg-reconfigure)
[09:10] <sally_> soundray, it runs dosfsck, I can't find any console or file that shows exactly what it prints out
[09:10] <johnm1019> jhenn, thanks for the info! :)
[09:10] <basvg> right, that worked. only problem now is that double-clicking on mp3's will fire up the wrong app (the movie player instead of the rhythm box thingy)
[09:10] <scifi> vermoos: terminal says 54mins for me
[09:10] <Fee^> yeah, i haven't figured out how to change the file associates for mp3 yet
[09:10] <Fee^> i want xmms to be the default
[09:11] <fatalblu> i want a pony
[09:11] <basvg> Fee^: shouldn't be too hard... I'll fidle with it, hang on
[09:11] <ZeromusMog> Hello, is this the place to ask? I am not understanding how I'm supposed to setup wifi in Dapper
[09:11] <basvg> fatalblu: my little pony ;) ?
[09:11] <eugman> kenni I'm pretty sure it's dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg . May want to try dpkg-configure if that doesn't work. It's something like that.
[09:11] <dsas> Fee^: right click on an mp3
[09:11] <Fee^> since the default file types thingie seems to have been trimmed in dapper as well
[09:11] <jhenn> johnm1019: please don't give up your freedom for little effects
[09:11] <ZeromusMog> I can see it in my network configuration but i can't figure out how to scan for networks or connect to anything
[09:11] <fatalblu> basvg: more like Barbie Horse Adventure!
[09:11] <basvg> hehe
[09:11] <Snake> How to mount ISO?
[09:11] <dsas> Fee^: then go to properties - > openwith
[09:11] <ZeromusMog> I tried putting the SSID and key in by hand and still no go :(
[09:11] <basvg> afk, fiddling with mp3-settings
[09:11] <jhenn> johnm1019: xgl is not essential but its nice i admit
[09:11] <kenni> eugman, got it!
[09:11] <jhenn> johnm1019: write hate mail to ati/nvidious
[09:11] <wastrel> ZeromusMog:  if you find out, let me know
[09:11] <eugman> kenni, glad to help.
[09:12] <PHiSQuaRE> I'm trying to remove sound-juicer and my apt-get just seems to be chillin' not doing anything at all.....
[09:12] <Penguin> does ubuntu go on a CD or DVD?
[09:12] <Snake> Penguin: CD
[09:12] <ZeromusMog> Penguin: CD
[09:12] <dsas> Penguin: cd
[09:12] <Jeeves_> Penguin: Both
[09:12] <charle97>  both
[09:12] <dsas> heh
[09:12] <jhenn> PHiSQuaRE: give it time man
[09:12] <PHiSQuaRE> neither
[09:12] <ubuntu> i get this error when installing ubuntu:     Asertion ((C * Heads + H) * sectors + S ==A) at ../../libparted/disk_dos.C:586 in function probe_partion_for_geom() failed
[09:12] <fatalblu> how to mount iso? buy it dinner, flowers... ask nicely
[09:12] <wastrel> ZeromusMog:  i manually configure /etc/network/interfaces currently.  don't know of an easy way to scan & connect
[09:12] <ubuntu> help me plz
[09:12] <Snake> fatalblu: har har.. :P
[09:12] <JyZky> Auckland_Pig reboot now
[09:12] <jhenn> ubuntu: what
[09:12] <ZeromusMog> wastrel: I can't even figure out the hard way, heh
[09:12] <dsas> ZeromusMog: It may depend on your card.
[09:12] <Fee^> Dsas: yeah, i have xmms there...but i'm talking double-click action
[09:12] <BleedingThrough> 6.06 much better than 5.10?
[09:12] <Snake> BleedingThrough: yes
[09:12] <fatalblu> Snake: either that or invest in Chloroform
[09:12] <revmouse> BleedingThrough, yes
[09:12] <ZeromusMog> I even installed kwifi manager but it's acting very strangely
[09:12] <PHiSQuaRE> jhenn, and how much time is enough time?
[09:12] <jhenn> BleedingThrough: try it geeze there is a livecd or if your on dial up shipit
[09:13] <jhenn> BleedingThrough: or wait for reviews
[09:13] <soundray> sally_: that's definitely not the planned behavior. Do you mount the partition routinely in Ubuntu?
[09:13] <iapx8088> time for dapper
[09:13] <PHiSQuaRE> I can't say I'm very patient :)
[09:13] <iapx8088> let's go.
[09:13] <jhenn> PHiSQuaRE: a couple days you know
[09:13] <dsas> Fee^: if you right click-> properties -> open with then you should be able to select xmms. That'll change the default mime type handler for all files of that mime type
[09:13] <kirkunit> anyone installed the avahi zeroconf daemon yet? works great for streaming music over a network to rhythmbox.
[09:13] <sally_> soundray, it gets mounted by default
[09:13] <BleedingThrough> yea, im downloading it and xubuntu for my old comp now
[09:13] <agorf> hello. i go to adjust date + time and when i check the box to sync the clock i am asked to install ntp support. i choose ok and nothing happens. is this a bug?
[09:13] <Fee^> dsas: and if it doesn't? :)
[09:13] <jhenn> PHiSQuaRE: why remove sound-juicer anyway do you need disk space?
[09:13] <sally_> soundray, I mean, it gets mounted at boot
[09:13] <yaramaz> hi friends   i have a toshiba satellite l10 laptop but ubuntu isn't showing my battery how  i fix it?
[09:13] <dsas> Fee^: http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/bugs
[09:13] <soundray> sally_: did you notice any errors at umount time when you shut down?
[09:13] <coco_> xlack
[09:14] <kirkunit> yaramaz: are you running dapper?
[09:14] <ZeromusMog> I'm a little dissapointed. I'm excited that the new Ubuntu can find my wireless card out of the box, and I heard it was delayed mostly for wireless support... so why isn't there a wifi manager :(
[09:14] <Frem> yaramaz, have you added the battery applet to the panel?
[09:14] <charle97> should i go for rieserfs?
[09:14] <nnz> just went blank after booting nautils :/ guess wont work on 128 ram
[09:14] <Tommy>  i get this error when installing ubuntu:     Asertion ((C * Heads + H) * sectors + S ==A) at ../../libparted/disk_dos.C:586 in function probe_partion_for_geom() failed        what should i do??   its 5.10
[09:14] <sally_> soundray, no
[09:14] <dsas> ZeromusMog: That is _not_ why it was delayed.
[09:14] <MrObvious> !tell MrObvious about ndiswrapper
[09:14] <jhenn> nnz: xubuntuy
[09:14] <yaramaz> no i m using 5.10 ubuntu
[09:14] <PHiSQuaRE> jhenn, I don't need it so why keep it?
[09:14] <dsas> ZeromusMog: Try install network-manager and nm-applet
[09:14] <Shutdown> i cannot get the package to open in the package manager
[09:14] <jhenn> PHiSQuaRE: because its not bothering you
[09:14] <iapx8088> mmh it's going
[09:15] <iapx8088> let's hope, I have too much of work in this installation
[09:15] <ZeromusMog> though to be fair, the liveCD/installer is impressive and sexy as all hell :)
[09:15] <yaramaz> no i havent added the battery applet to the panel
[09:15] <yaramaz> how  i do?
[09:15] <wastrel> ZeromusMog:  sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces  :] 
[09:15] <scifi> im thinking of getting a cheap laptop, wud ubuntu run ok on one? (detect onboard graphics, battery power, wifi card etc)
[09:15] <kirkunit> yaramaz: well I'm not sure about the nature of your problem, but I know that Dapper has vastly in improved power management.
[09:15] <agorf> scifi, i have artifacts on my laptop
[09:15] <soundray> sally_: fsck is run on boot if the filesystem has the dirty flag. Perhaps you can reset the dirty flag by running dosfsck -a on the filesystem from within Ubuntu.
[09:15] <PHiSQuaRE> ZeromusMog, I agree, it's quite impressive and sexilicious
[09:15] <sally_> soundray, my /etc/fstab had 0 1 for the last two fields for the vfat partitions, I changed them to 0 0
[09:15] <Kronoz> use vim over vi
[09:15] <sally_> soundray, ok I will try that
[09:15] <jhenn> nnz gnome will not run well on 128 mb
[09:15] <scifi> agorf: really? hmmm
[09:16] <jhenn> nnz: possibly at all
[09:16] <Frem> yaramaz, right click on a blank spot on the top panel, select add to panel. drag the battery charge monitor onto it.
[09:16] <agorf> scifi, yeap having mobility radeon
[09:16] <wastrel> Kronoz:  vi is vim by default iirc
[09:16] <dsas> Kronoz: They're the same program in ubuntu
[09:16] <jhenn> nnz: you should have 192 minimally
[09:16] <Kronoz> ah, i see, sorry
[09:16] <yaramaz> ok frem  i m trying
[09:16] <soundray> sally_: I'm not sure what your fstab change will do. I'll read man fstab...
[09:16] <kenni> Wish us luck, bye for now!
[09:16] <ZeromusMog> wastrel: my wifi is in there with SSID and password I set :(
[09:17] <PHiSQuaRE> I just installed dapper and I want to play but I must resist until uni is on break....
[09:17] <xiko> !xgl
[09:17] <ubotu> I heard xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[09:17] <wastrel> ZeromusMog:  ok sudo ifup <wifi interface>
[09:17] <ZeromusMog> also dsas, I can't find nm-applet or networkmanager-applet or anything of the sort except for a load monitor
[09:17] <iapx8088> ok, let's hope for the best
[09:17] <zjohnson> easy way to XGL on ATI video?
[09:17] <iapx8088> breezy is dead, long live dapper
[09:17] <iapx8088> bye!
[09:18] <jah_raztah> i have a bit of a problem. when ubuntu RC released a few days ago i got the server install cd and i used it to install the base system then xubuntu... now i've just downloaded the ubuntu cd and i would like to use it to to install the package ubuntu-desktop but for some reason it only will use the repositories. i disabled the repositores and added the cd to sources.list and still it doesn't recognize the cd a
[09:18] <jah_raztah> s a source to get the packages...
[09:18] <yaramaz> frem ok but battery isn't exist
[09:18] <neutrinomass> I just bought a router and an ethernet card but I can't really get them to work, can anybody offer help ?
[09:18] <jtd> I wouldn't say Breezy is "dead," exactly.
[09:18] <soundray> sally_: you're right about making that change - not sure if it'll fix the fscking, though.
[09:18] <ZeromusMog> wastrel: tries to send things but says network is down
[09:18] <dsas> ZeromusMog: try netapplet ?
[09:18] <kane777> im so exciteeeed!!
[09:18] <jah_raztah> the reason i want to use the cd rather then repository is so that it doesn't use unnessasary bandwidth
[09:18] <kane777> anybody else is??
[09:18] <ZeromusMog> there we go dsas
[09:18] <jtd> kane777: clearly you just can't hide it.
[09:18] <neutrinomass> It's probably a dhcp issue, but I'm not sure, never done this before.
[09:18] <iapx8088> bye
[09:19] <Frem> yaramaz, battery dosen't exist? Are you plugged into the wall right now?
[09:19] <dsas> ZeromusMog: Looks like nm-applet was dropped somewhere along the way. Never realised :)
[09:19] <FunnyHat_Work> #ubuntu is the biggest channel on freenode   : )
[09:19] <Serenity`Install> Bonsoir
[09:19] <dmbt> dude, i can't believe how many people are in here
[09:19] <mikeyyyy> can i get some help?
[09:19] <dmbt> i'v never seen over 1000 in a room
[09:20] <dmbt> !
[09:20] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dmbt
[09:20] <kane777> jtd: upgrading right now... I thought I'd be awake till it will be available but I just fell asleep and during today I couldnt find time.... so....
[09:20] <eugman> Hey, I have nvidia-settings installed but not nvidia-glx. Should I flip those two?
[09:20] <yaramaz> the battery showing menu says "battery isn't exist and using on ac power "
[09:20] <soundray> mikeyyyy: only if you ask a sensible question
[09:20] <ktogias> I see that qemu at dapper's repositories is version 0.8.0, while at qemu site vesions qemu 0.8.1 and kqemu-1.3.0pre7 are the most recent. Is the version in the repos accelerated? Should I use the dapper version, or download, compile and install the newest version from the site?
[09:20] <sylvan> hey, anyway to give myself permissions to view some of the volumes shown on the desktop? It just says I don't have permission to view it, but I can't find away to enter my password to give me permission
[09:20] <mikeyyyy> i download ubuntu and when i went to install i ti got to the first screen then, when it when i clicked install it said it couldnt read the boot disc?
[09:20] <DavyO> hello ppl
[09:20] <dsas> ktogias: Its completly up to you, though compiling it yourself may cause problems when you update ubuntu.
[09:21] <Frem> ZeromusMog, if you want network manager, you'll need to install it & the gnome applet via apt-get, then comment out everything having to do with our wifi card in /etc/network/interfaces and reboot
[09:21] <dsas> ktogias: If you do install it from source use checkinstall
[09:21] <mikeyyyy> i download ubuntu and when i went to install i ti got to the first screen then, when it when i clicked install it said it couldnt read the boot disc?
[09:21] <soundray> mikeyyyy: maybe your burn went wrong. Run the check CD option from the boot menu.
[09:21] <eugman> sylvan, I'm assuming these are automatically mounted?
[09:21] <mikeyyyy> yea it also couldnt read it
[09:21] <mikeyyyy> so i have to re-burn it?
[09:21] <Steve123> Hi.  I upgraded from breezy to dapper ( I know, get in line).  During the upgrade process my x server configuration got messed up.  I don't know anything about x servers :).   When I rebooted I got a message telling the xserver could not be started, probably due to a configuration problem.  I would be grateful if somebody could walk me through fixing my x server config files.
[09:21] <charle97> yes
[09:21] <soundray> mikeyyyy: yes.
[09:21] <sylvan> eugman, yes
[09:21] <mikeyyyy> ok
[09:21] <ZeromusMog> Frem: but I want it to manage my wifi? I'm confused :)
[09:21] <mikeyyyy> how can i make it burn it right?
[09:22] <kane777> Details: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/nautilus-computer.desktop': File not found    What is this??? (I get this when I'm trying to run home or any of my harddisks from places menu...)
[09:22] <agorf> anyone has artifacts in OK/Cancel buttons that are gone on mouseover?
[09:22] <dsas> agorf: it's a known bug
[09:22] <eugman> sylvan, Search around for editing fstab file. There should be soemthing in the eiki.
[09:22] <wastrel> i can't see, gonna go take out my contacts
[09:22] <yaramaz> frem : did you see my last sentence?
[09:22] <agorf> dsas, so i w8 for a fix?
[09:22] <charle97> mikeyyy, do you have antivirus running while you burn?
[09:22] <neutrinomass> Steve123: I'm not sure what you have to do, I'm not familiar with X, but try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:22] <Frem> ZeromusMog, Don't ask me why it works like that, but I had to comment out everything having to do with my wifi card in that file before it would kick in.
[09:22] <mikeyyyy> how can i burn it right?
[09:22] <soundray> mikeyyyy: don't repeat
[09:22] <ktogias> thanks dsas !
[09:22] <Steve123> thanks neutrinomass I will give it a try!
[09:22] <mikeyyyy> sorry i didnt thikn anyoen got it?
[09:22] <gargamel> squid fails to install in new version
[09:22] <mikeyyyy> i am new to irc
[09:22] <mikeyyyy> lol
[09:22] <gargamel> squid crashes
[09:22] <soundray> mikeyyyy: it's hard to tell without knowing what went wrong. Just try again.
[09:23] <mikeyyyy> ok
[09:23] <ZeromusMog> Ah I think I see now. Otherwise it just tries to use what's there.
[09:23] <Silent_al> hello , where can i find a torrent for xubuntu?
[09:23] <mikeyyyy> i will get back to u guys later
[09:23] <sylvan> eugman, ugh... I guess linux isn't ready for prime time then..
[09:23] <soundray> mikeyyyy: I can tell. Seasoned IRC users don't say lol
[09:23] <mikeyyyy> how can u do a dual install with windows?
[09:23] <dsas> agorf: you may want to subscribe to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/38198
[09:23] <mikeyyyy> :-)
[09:23] <ketsugi> soundray: wtf?
[09:23] <harrison> has anyone who was running aiglx and compiz under dapper beta noticed a slowdown in performance with the latest updates?
[09:23] <ketsugi> I've been using IRC for 10 years
[09:23] <ketsugi> and I still say lol
[09:23] <ketsugi> ;(
[09:23] <mikeyyyy> :-)
[09:23] <soundray> ketsugi: wtf is another giveaway
[09:23] <charle97> mikeyy, do you know how to install windows on your own?
[09:23] <ketsugi> TEN YEARS!
[09:23] <dsas> ketsugi: You're not seasoned enough. *adds more salt*
[09:23] <jah_raztah> how do i use the dapper cd to install dapper instead of repository?
[09:23] <soundray> ketsugi: I'm only semi-serious
[09:23] <agorf> dsas, thanks!
[09:23] <eugman> Sylvan, Well I only know what I know I'm afraid. There may be an easy way but all I know is editing the fstab file which controls how the volumes are mounted.
[09:24] <ketsugi> >:(
[09:24] <mikeyyyy> did anyone see my last question?
[09:24] <Silent_al> mikeyyyy, the instasller will ask you for it, if not doin' it automatically
[09:24] <jah_raztah> i don't wish to do a fresh install
[09:24] <yaramaz> frem (: ? can you help me ? :)
[09:24] <mikeyyyy> ok cool
[09:24] <mikeyyyy> thanks
[09:24] <ZeromusMog> charle97: installing Ubuntu is easier than windows, imo.
[09:24] <mikeyyyy> so whil i am installing it, i twill ask me if i want to do a dual install?
[09:24] <sylvan> eugman, I just figured that if they show my volumes on the desktop (without asking) there should be an easy way to access them, seems like every single volume will always have this problem for all users...
[09:24] <charle97> zeromusmog, i disagree
[09:24] <eugman> Silent_al, The link in the title should have a torrent for xubuntu I think.
[09:24] <sylvan> except cdroms maybe
[09:25] <MINK9Y> hey guys, just got ubunto installed on an old xboxHDD i had left over, but now I can't get my bluetooth mouse running (logitech mx900). when I was running liveCD, I got it working by typing [sudo hidd --search]  and then pressing the mouse's connect button, but now unbutu is running from HDD it doesn't work. Any suggestions? =)
[09:25] <eugman> sylvan, ARe these ntfs volumes?
[09:25] <kane777> Details: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/nautilus-computer.desktop': File not found    What is this??? (I get this when I'm trying to run home or any of my harddisks from places menu...)
[09:25] <sylvan> eugman, yes
[09:25] <Raskall> anyone got any suggestions on how to get looking glass 3d working on an ATI card? It requires both composite and DRI, but the ati drivers disable DRI when enabling composite.
[09:25] <Fee^> dsas: i didn't find a bug there :)
[09:25] <Frem> yaramaz, I'm sorry, I don't know exactly why it says that. Does it change when you unplug it?
[09:25] <Silent_al> mikeyyyy, dual boot . yes
[09:25] <mikeyyyy> ok
[09:25] <mikeyyyy> thanks
[09:25] <simonpca> plop
[09:25] <ZeromusMog> charle97: Just installing. Not confuring. In my experience more stuff works out of the box and with less hassle on Ubuntu than Windows
[09:26] <jah_raztah> i'm already on dapper but i have the beta version of xubuntu now i wish to switch to ubuntu so i downloaded the dapper cd and would now like to use that cd to install ubuntu-desktop but it will only allow me to use the repositories... how can i set it to use the cd-rom?
[09:26] <mikeyyyy> also is it easy to install a game like the linux version of americas army?
[09:26] <ZeromusMog> Problem is the few things that don't work aren't just a matter of downloading a driver installer :(
[09:26] <dsas> Fee^: It it doesn't work and it should and there's no duplicates then file one :)
[09:26] <Silent_al> eugman, got it, thankx
[09:26] <kane777> ooops... I lost synaptic... how come/??? anybody can help.... its not in the menu.... how do I get it back??? what packages should i install????
[09:26] <Frem> mikeyyyy, I've got enemy teritory installed. I didn't find it too hard. just follow the instructions on the forums.
[09:26] <neutrinomass> I just bought a router and I'm having trouble connecting to it, probably a dhcp issue. Can anybody help me ?
[09:26] <harrison> kane777 try running synaptic from the command line
[09:26] <dsas> kane777: Use alacarte menu editor
[09:26] <eugman> Sylvan, well that's the problem. Support for ntfs is rather weak. You could easily mess up something if you tried to write to such a volume. Reading them is safe but I'm guessing this might be like giving someone safety scissors so they don't cut themselves.
[09:27] <ZeromusMog> mikeyyyy: Windows is sadly king as far as games are concerned. Linux isn't really a good gaming platform unless all you play is tuxracer and quake, heh. There are some good efforts to emulate DirectX so you can play on Windows but they're not super easy to use or stable yet.
[09:27] <mikeyyyy> follow the ubuntu forums or the game forums?
[09:27] <kane777> harrison, synaptic not found... seems that i uninstalled it...
[09:27] <Pilgrim-> I have a AMD Turion 64-Bit processor..should i get Ubuntu 32bit or 64bit version? Is there a big performance diference?
[09:27] <dsas> ZeromusMog: There's tremulous, and wolfenstein
[09:27] <harrison> kane777 try this
[09:27] <charle97> zeromusmog: will you help me share an internet connection with windows xp if it's so easy?
[09:27] <soundray> jah_raztah: add this line add the beginning of /etc/apt/sources.list: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Alpha i386 (20060329.1)] / dapper main restricted
[09:27] <harrison> kane777 > sudo apt-get update
[09:27] <yaramaz> no doesnt change i read something about it i think i should compile the kernel
[09:27] <ZeromusMog> charle97: I said easier to install not configure ;-*
[09:27] <harrison> kane777 > sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:27] <Frem> neutrinomass, are you trying to install and it keeps timing out waiting for the dhcp?
[09:27] <soundray> jah_raztah: you'll have to adapt the CD name in there.
[09:28] <neutrinomass> Pilgrim-: The performance difference is small, but amd64 comes with problems :) Flash issues etc. .
[09:28] <javiolo> charle97  I you find out how to do that please let me know
[09:28] <sylvan> eugman, yeah I know I just wanted read permission.. anyway I went into fstab and changed it.. I just dislike the linux mentality where everything has to be difficult and involved
[09:28] <ZeromusMog> "internet connection sharing" is in the "configure" department ;)
[09:28] <JesusCenteno> hi, does anyone has problem installing dapper in a dual processor athlon machine? (with module amd76xrom)
[09:28] <charle97> javiolo: i've done it before by configuring samba, but i forgot the settings
[09:28] <mikeyyyy> do u need a special kind of computer or multiple hard drive to dual boot?
[09:28] <soundray> mikeyyyy: no
[09:28] <mikeyyyy> k
[09:29] <mikeyyyy> so i could do it on an average hop
[09:29] <mikeyyyy> hp*
[09:29] <jah_raztah> soundray, finally some one responds and yes i've done that already... i'm not a newbie... but this makes no sens ei added the cd to the repositories already using synaptic and the method u stated earlier and neither worked... when i goto look for packages ubuntu-desktop it says not found
[09:29] <Frem> mikeyyyy, have you seen the wiki yet?
[09:29] <neutrinomass> Frem: I think I've connected everything correctly because the router's leds go on as described in the manual. I tried network-admin and activated the interface, but I get assigned an 169.xxx. address, I can't ping 192.168.0.1 which is supposed to be the router and according to the manual 169.x addresses "are assigned by windows when dhcp caznnot be used"
[09:29] <mikeyyyy> its confuses me
[09:29] <javiolo> charle97 I tried to share internet between a xp and ubuntu, the one that has internet connection is the xp
[09:29] <soundray> mikeyyyy: yes. Do backup your important stuff though.
[09:29] <eugman> Does anyone have nvidia working on dapper with acceleration? Do I need nvidia-glx installed?
[09:29] <mikeyyyy> yea i know
[09:29] <mikeyyyy> i already saved a bunch of things to boe.net
[09:29] <ZeromusMog> augh stupid quesiton: what is the comment charachter for a conf file? Is it #? I forget D:
[09:29] <mikeyyyy> box.net*
[09:29] <soundray> jah_raztah: did you run 'sudo apt-get update' after the change?
[09:29] <jah_raztah> yes
[09:29] <JesusCenteno> hi, does anyone has problem installing dapper in a dual processor athlon machine? (with module amd76xrom)
[09:29] <neutrinomass> ZeromusMog: Usually '#', but it could depend ...
[09:30] <ZeromusMog> this is for /etc/network/interfaces
[09:30] <eugman> ZeromusMog, That's the case for the repo config so I think so.
[09:30] <charle97> javiolo: i used the same setup, but i wanted the ubuntu machine to share with xp instead.... never could get that working
[09:30] <kane777> harrison, thanx pal... i accidentaly uninstalled it... and knew not what to do... and few other problems occured... eg when i sellect home or any of my disks in places menu i get error... do you know what it might be??
[09:30] <eugman> But don't trust me.
[09:30] <Frem> neutrinomass, can you ping 192.168.1.1? that's where my rounter is configured.
[09:30] <T-CAN> if i am running breezy 5.10, whats the easiest way to upgrade to dapper?
[09:30] <Frem> T-CAN, run the update manager
[09:30] <jah_raztah> soundray, it's very weird i'm not new to ubuntu either... i could use the repositories but i don't want to waste the bandwidth
[09:30] <ZeromusMog> gonna reboot and try this network manager business brb all and thanks for your help so far :)
[09:31] <mikeyyyy> bye
[09:31] <Frem> ZeromusMog, good luck
[09:31] <T-CAN> Frem, I have and nothing was found
[09:31] <JesusCenteno> hi, does anyone has problem installing dapper in a dual processor athlon machine? (with module amd76xrom)
[09:31] <neutrinomass> Frem: Let me try ... (bringing eth0 up ... )
[09:31] <mikeyyyy> i am going to make the full swicth to linux today, hope it works
[09:31] <eugman> T-CAN, At some point a button should appear today on the manager offering to upgrade to 6.06
[09:31] <mikeyyyy> then my house will be rid of microsoft!! yay!!!
[09:31] <T-CAN> k
[09:31] <harrison> kane777 > i am not sure, but it sounds like you may have boogered it up pretty bad, if you have just installed, i would suggest installing again
[09:31] <profoX`> Is the live cd really really slow or is it my cd drive, and if it is my cd drive, multitasking seems to be bad under heavy disk load, can some HD resources be saved for multitasking ?
[09:32] <Ratzilla> im almost done upgrading :)
[09:32] <eugman> T-CAN, You can do it early by typing sudo update-manager -d into the terminal.
[09:32] <wastrel> profoX`:  how much RAM do you have?
[09:32] <soundray> jah_raztah: is your CD mounted?
[09:32] <jah_raztah> yes offcourse
[09:32] <profoX`> wasabi: 256 on the laptop i am trying to install it on
[09:32] <mikeyyyy> ok i downloaded it again, and em now burning dapper
[09:32] <profoX`> wastrel: sorry*
[09:32] <wastrel> profoX`:  that would be the problem :] 
[09:32] <soundray> jah_raztah: unmount it and run apt-get update again, see if that helps.
[09:33] <profoX`> wastrel: recommended minimal was 256
[09:33] <eugman> Dapper, nvidia, working, anyone?
[09:33] <wastrel> profoX`:  minimal is slow :]   the livecd is loading the filesystem into RAM, so you won't have as much left over for running processes.
[09:33] <profoX`> wastrel: anyway... i think its mainly due to the disc load time...
[09:33] <ScreaminIke> where is the live cd?
[09:33] <maddler> eugman: me... but using drivers downloaded from nvidia...
[09:33] <soundray> ScreaminIke: it is now called Desktop CD
[09:33] <profoX`> ScreaminIke: the live cd got merged with the install cd in 6.06 I think
[09:34] <FunnyHat_Work> eugman, it worked for me in beta, testing tonight when I get home
[09:34] <neutrinomas1> Frem: Didn't work . Bringing up eth0 also clobbers up my ppp0 interface.
[09:34] <ScreaminIke> omg for realz? that is so cool
[09:34] <btaranto> hy. i have a dell xeon 64bits with 2 scsi ultra4 with raid1(megaraid). does anybody knows if cd-iso of ubuntu amd64 server detect this hardware(raid1(megarid)) on boot?
[09:34] <ktogias> Where can I find a how-to/wiki with instructions about installing and using xgl on dapper with ATI?
[09:34] <dsas> !tel ktogias about xgl
[09:34] <ubotu> dsas: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:34] <jah_raztah> soundray, no it doesn't
[09:34] <eugman> FunnyHat_Work, Do you have nvidia-glx installed?
[09:34] <dsas> !tell ktogias about xgl
[09:34] <mikeyyyy> yea i was confused by them calling it desktop cd too, they might want to add a note on the website or something
[09:34] <FunnyHat_Work> btaranto, it should... but no guaruntees
[09:34] <FunnyHat_Work> eugman, yea.  and all of it's dependencies of course
[09:34] <stjepan> anyone tried dapper?
[09:35] <indro> !tell indro about xgl
[09:35] <ltR20> did drapper come out yet
[09:35] <mikeyyyy> about to
[09:35] <skeltoac> dapper++
[09:35] <ltR20> final version
[09:35] <dsas> stjepan: Just most the people in the room.
[09:35] <rendo> Is there anyone to have a script execute on startup?
[09:35] <rendo> anyway*
[09:35] <stjepan> dsas, "most" ???
[09:35] <profoX`> wastrel: I have been waiting for more than 10 minutes now to get "set time" to open.. still not opened.. cpu usage itself isnt high, but the disk load is just 100% .. its just way too slow
[09:35] <ScreaminIke> also... what is this ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[09:35] <yaramaz> how  do  i compile the kernel on ubuntu 5.10?
[09:35] <neutrinomas1> Frem: When I bring ppp0 up though, I can ping 192.168.1.1 and 0.1, although this is probably irrelevant.
[09:35] <eugman> FunnyHat_Work, And I'm guessing I'm not supposed to have nvidia-settings anymore?
[09:35] <shachaf> rendo: Yes, there is. Do you mean on boot or on login?
[09:35] <soundray> jah_raztah: when you mount the CD, can you find the package? 'find /media/cdrom0 -name ubuntu-desktop\*.deb'
[09:35] <rendo> Login
[09:35] <FunnyHat_Work> eugman, yea, I don't think you need that one
[09:35] <profoX`> ltR20: yes it did 6.06 got released today
[09:35] <btaranto> FunnyHat_Work_ hum... the cd-iso of debian-31r0a amd64 dont detect my raid1.
[09:35] <wastrel> profoX`:  yeah i dunno - get more ram :]   i don't really use the livecd
[09:35] <eXistenZ> Would anyone recommend me a practical md5 hash generator?
[09:35] <FunnyHat_Work> ubotu, tell eugman about nvidia
[09:35] <dsas> rendo: Yep you need to put the script in /etc/rc3.d and call it S99yourscriptname
[09:35] <ScreaminIke> what's the difference between that and the desktop?
[09:35] <Tocano> Where are the network configuration files in Ubuntu?  We had a DHCP failure during install, so figured we'd set that up after install ... but don't know where those files are in this one (6.06 LTS)
[09:35] <FunnyHat_Work> eugman, just follow that wiki for dapper instructions
[09:35] <Frem> neutrinomas1, I'm sorry, then. I don't know.
[09:35] <mikeyyyy> ok 20 minutes to download now 20 to burn lol grrrrrrr
[09:35] <rendo> Thank you.
[09:36] <profoX`> wastrel: im going to install it on a 512 machine, its for a friend of me :)
[09:36] <FunnyHat_Work> btaranto, try the i386 cd.
[09:36] <kane777> harrison, ok found the source of this messup... i uninstalled gnome... LOL...
[09:36] <soundray> ScreaminIke: it has a text-based installer
[09:36] <ScreaminIke> ahe
[09:36] <shachaf> rendo: No, wait.
[09:36] <foodcoman> Anyone know why I get this error on my laptop CDROM.  Trying to enable DMA. http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/751965
[09:36] <FunnyHat_Work> btaranto, all x64 software is fairly buggy still in the GNU/Linux world
[09:36] <rendo> Eh?
[09:36] <dsas> eXistenZ: md5sum
[09:36] <neutrinomas1> Frem: Ok, thanks. But normally it should be a matter of just activating eth0 and connecting to 192.168.0.1, right?
[09:36] <dsas> eXistenZ: It's there by default.
[09:36] <shachaf> rendo: What dsas said will run the script on boot.
[09:36] <btaranto> FunnyHat_Work_ i386 work. i have installed debian i386 with kernel 2.6.
[09:36] <Frem> neutrinomas1, yes, it should be. that or 192.168.1.1
[09:36] <rendo> Okay, then how do I do it on login? :)
[09:36] <mikeyyyy> i thikn ubuntu has the best customer support
[09:37] <profoX`> wastrel: i use archlinux right now myself, but i must admit that ubuntu is coming along pretty well lately, im already looking forward to 6.10
[09:37] <soundray> jah_raztah: have you done an md5sum on the CD btw?
[09:37] <ZeromusDesktop> Well, damn. Network Manager doesn't like to connect either. And still nothing that just scans =\
[09:37] <shachaf> rendo: To run in on login, either put it in your .Xsession or (if you're running GNOME) go to System->Preferences->Sessions->Startup Programs and add it there.
[09:37] <FunnyHat_Work> btaranto, then it's the 64bit packages that are failing on you, rather than the total support for RAID.
[09:37] <Frem> neutrinomas1, oh, just remembered. have you tried setting that ip address as your gateway?
[09:37] <T-CAN> profoX` how do you like archlinux?
[09:37] <rendo> I did that shachaf, and the script didn't run. :(
[09:37] <FunnyHat_Work> <<AFK AGAIN>>
[09:37] <rendo> In the session startup thing.
[09:37] <redmonkey> hi. i cannot play dvd movies. what libraries do i need for it except libdvdc**?
[09:37] <shachaf> rendo: You're sure?
[09:37] <Trashcan> my video card burned out, and i need to get my dapper box to a state where i can run sshd
[09:37] <jah_raztah> soundray, no i have not i download the the official torrent file from ubuntu website and once it finished downloading i burnt it
[09:37] <rendo> Yes.
[09:37] <skeltoac> just installed update from breezy badger to dapper... gotta reboot! :)
[09:37] <Trashcan> is there a quick keystroke to get it to boot to console
[09:38] <shachaf> rendo: You might have to type the full path in, rather than just the name of the script.
[09:38] <dsas> redmonkey: Have you saw http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[09:38] <ltR20> did drapper come out yet - final version.
[09:38] <rendo> I did that.
[09:38] <dsas> ltR20: yes
[09:38] <Trashcan> im driving with my eyes closed so no X
[09:38] <ltR20> Can i order the cds?
[09:38] <Annie> hey
[09:38] <jah_raztah> soundray you are right there is no package named ubuntu-desktop on the cdrom as well
[09:38] <dsas> ltR20: yes, they won't arrive for 4-6 weeks though
[09:38] <Annie> asl
[09:38] <iNiku> Trashcan: sshd can run even if X is running
[09:38] <dsas> ltR20: Maybe even longer
[09:38] <eXistenZ> dsas, Say I want to generate a md5 hash from a text, is it possible to do that with md5sum?
[09:38] <redmonkey> dsas: no, thank you for the link!
[09:38] <iNiku> Trashcan: you might not have sshd installed, though
[09:38] <Trashcan> i do
[09:38] <Trashcan> it's not set up to run at boot
[09:38] <Trashcan> hence the problem
[09:38] <Trashcan> so i need to jump to a console and run it
[09:39] <dsas> eXistenZ: just do "md5sum filename"
[09:39] <Trashcan> but have to do so without being able to see
[09:39] <neutrinomas1> Frem: 192.168.0.1 or the 169.xxx addy? how do I set it as a gateway with dhcp ?
[09:39] <btaranto> FunnyHat_Work_ hum... what do you recommend? leave with i386 2.6?
[09:39] <harrison> anyone running compiz + aiglx with dapper release?
[09:39] <T-CAN> im off to upgrade to dapper
[09:39] <T-CAN> wish me luck
[09:39] <profoX`> T-CAN: best distribution i ever had... its abit harder to setup/configure, but once its running it works flawlessly, and you have so many options. pacman package manager look salot like apt-get and ABS is like gentoo's build system.
[09:39] <eXistenZ> dsas, the text is not in a file
[09:39] <dsas> harrison: see #ubuntu-xgl
[09:39] <aedwards323> how do you upgrade to dapper from command line
[09:39] <aedwards323> ?????
[09:39] <harrison> thx
[09:39] <dsas> eXistenZ: Where is it?
[09:39] <CHodapp> Ok. Before someone else uses it offensively, I'll just scream it: JEWBUNTU
[09:39] <bingo> Hi, I try dapper today, it's very nice... do you know the name of the gtk theme of dapper? cause I want the same in my debian !
[09:39] <shachaf> rendo: Hmm.
[09:39] <CHodapp> There. Now it's dead.
[09:39] <iNiku> Trashcan: oh... ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a console, then log in and run sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[09:39] <nnz> dapper wont boot on 128 megs of ram , after nautils done loading it just goes to blank screen n nothing.do server dapper have gui?
[09:39] <Hoxzer> How well does ubuntu support NTFS writing?
[09:39] <dsas> bingo: Human
[09:39] <eXistenZ> dsas, I just want to feed it a text, and it will convert it into md5 hash
[09:39] <dsas> Hoxzer: It doesn't
[09:39] <T-CAN> profoX` I really want to try archlinux out but I dont know if i can handle it
[09:39] <iNiku> Trashcan: sudo will probably ask for your password
[09:40] <Hoxzer> LOLLERSKATES
[09:40] <shachaf> rendo: Does the script work when you run it normally?
[09:40] <btaranto> FunnyHat_Work_ is the first time i play with 64bits arch.
[09:40] <profoX`> T-CAN: do you have experience with linux ?
[09:40] <FunnyHat_Work> btaranto, well if it isn't broken, don't fix it  ; )
[09:40] <rendo> ya
[09:40] <Trashcan> iniku: can i ctl-alt-f1 from x login screen?
[09:40] <Hoxzer> is there any way to enable it?
[09:40] <neutrinomas1> nnz: No, but the desktop should boot at least I think. It would be slow as hell, but bootable ...
[09:40] <jah_raztah> soundray, should i just forget about using the cd-rom and just use the repositories to install the packages?
[09:40] <bingo> dsas, do you know wher I can download it
[09:40] <T-CAN> a little but not much
[09:40] <FunnyHat_Work> btaranto, I'd stay away from the 64bit kernels , etc. for now
[09:40] <shachaf> rendo: Try adding some other program to the list and see if it starts on login.
[09:40] <dsas> eXistenZ: just type md5sum, then start writing, press ctrl+D when you've finished
[09:40] <iNiku> Trashcan: yes
[09:40] <Frem> neutrinomas1, the 192.168.0.1 address. I don't remeber exactly how to set something as a gateway, but I had to do it many moons ago with slackware. it's something like ifconfig -gateway 192.168.0.1, but don't quote me on that.
[09:40] <rendo> I have to run it in the terminal though.
[09:40] <Trashcan> awesome thanks
[09:40] <MagusG> is there any word on when a DVD release will be up?
[09:40] <nnz> nope its not , just tried that
[09:40] <dsas> bingo: http://ubuntu.com/download
[09:40] <T-CAN> profoX` I just started with it acouple weeks ago
[09:40] <rendo> Gaim does already, so it works. I dunno why the script won't :/
[09:40] <ZeromusDesktop> You know guys, I DO live in pretty close to Broadcom's offices, maybe I should go there and raise hell :)
[09:40] <eugman> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/ . Check it out.  It's a useful sorce of information.
[09:40] <profoX`> T-CAN: the #archlinux channel is friendly; but for beginners i wouldnt advise arch. why do you want to try out arch ?
[09:40] <aedwards323> !upgrade
[09:40] <ubotu> from memory, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[09:41] <btaranto> FunnyHat_Work_ hum...
[09:41] <ZeromusDesktop> For all of you out there cursing out your wifi cards ;D
[09:41] <soundray> jah_raztah: depends... if you're paying per MB, I would check the md5sums first (on the image file AND on the CD)
[09:41] <T-CAN> profoX` I really just want to learn what makes it tick and Ive heard that building the system yourself helps you understand a lot about it
[09:41] <bingo> dsas, thank you but I just want the gtk theme :-D
[09:41] <ZeromusDesktop> There are lots of nerds down here maybe we should gather together with giant signs saying "RELEASE LINUX DRIVERS FOR YOUR HARDWARE"
[09:41] <jah_raztah> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[09:41] <jah_raztah> that is what i downloaded
[09:41] <bingo> dsas, I have already download dapper
[09:41] <asdx> does dapper has wifi enhancements?
[09:41] <jhollon> Hey, when I try upgrade from breezy to dapper i get an error while downloading the files:  Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/latest/.........../Packages.gz and Sources.gz.  404 Not Found.  Why cant i see those files?
[09:41] <jah_raztah> how do i do a md5sum check
[09:41] <sloof3|ubuntu> What's the harm in removing the ubuntu-desktop package?
[09:42] <asdx> does dapper has wifi enhancements?
[09:42] <dsas> bingo: you want the files ?
[09:42] <ZeromusDesktop> asdx, not as many as I hoped there would be :(
[09:42] <sloof3|ubuntu> jah_raztah: md5sum
[09:42] <mgalvin> wow, 1000+ people... hello world!
[09:42] <soundray> jah_raztah: if you're only concerned about your impact on the web, I think you can safely assume it's okay to download a gig or so.
[09:42] <asdx> bah
[09:42] <profoX`> T-CAN: then maybe gentoo would be good for you, but it is too time consuming and even harder to setup. you have to compile everything from source, and frankly, it isnt that much faster than archlinux (the same kinda) plus in the end you just use portage to compile packages.. that wont teach you anything either
[09:42] <neutrinomas1> Frem: No luck with that :( Thanks anyway, I'll just lurk in here until somebody helps me :)
[09:42] <dsas> !tell sloof3|ubuntu about ubuntu-desktop
[09:42] <ZeromusDesktop> It seems to have better card support but no sort of wifi manager :(
[09:42] <rackerz> Do you guys recommend I install all the things automatix's installs manually?
[09:42] <vermoos> scifi: ok! it needed a restart, and gives a good first impression. its a nicer look and feel for defo, and matplotlib is in the package manager by default.
[09:42] <soundray> rackerz: don't use automatix!
[09:42] <iNiku> Trashcan: how did your video card "burn out", though?
[09:42] <soundray> !automatix
[09:42] <dsas> rackerz: Don't do automatix
[09:42] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[09:42] <RandolphCarter> rackerz: you can do it yourself then save your history as a script
[09:42] <ZeromusDesktop> profoX`, you DO learn a lot from Gentoo. Not how to compile packages though, heh
[09:42] <jah_raztah> no it's only around 303 mb that i need to download since i have all the xorg and other gtk2 libs and things from xubuntu already
[09:42] <eugman> Rackerz, yes mainly because it'll be easily revertable and because you'll be smarter for it.
[09:42] <Frem> neutrinomas1, ok. good luck with that. :-)
[09:42] <dsas> !tell rackerz about easyubuntu
[09:42] <bingo> dsas, yes I want the gtk theme to add it on debian gnome
[09:43] <profoX`> T-CAN: if you are serious about learning linux i would START with a distro like ubuntu, and later you can try Archlinux. you will learn alot with arch.
[09:43] <scifi> vermoos: kewl, still got 20mins or os of downloading left
[09:43] <ZeromusDesktop> !tell ZeromusDesktop about easyubuntu
[09:43] <scifi> so*
[09:43] <rackerz> dsas: easyubuntu breaks totem for me :(
[09:43] <shammy> how's the wireless compatability on drake?
[09:43] <T-CAN> profoX` I figure the only way to really figure everything out is by jumping in head first. Plus I am on a computer that I just threw together and dont really care about so it would be that big of a deal if anything got messed up.
[09:43] <btaranto> FunnyHat_Work_ if ubuntu detect all of my hardwares? is better i leave with i386 2.6?
[09:43] <soundray> rackerz: just tell easyubuntu to leave your totem alone.
[09:43] <Mellar> after upgradeing to dapper. apt-get update gives me theese messages: http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  407 Proxy Authentication Required
[09:44] <vermoos> scifi: it'll be worth it if matplotlib installs alove - its broken under breezy
[09:44] <sloof3|ubuntu> dsas: When ubuto says upgrade does it mean between releases?
[09:44] <Mellar> I also have no longer sound
[09:44] <mikeyyyy> why i subuntu a lot better then windows?
[09:44] <profoX`> T-CAN: sure, but beginners will enjoy ubuntu better i think :) although my first real distribution was debian too, when it still had the bad/uneasy installer
[09:44] <Andy101> is there anyway of removing an applet from a panel without actually starting gnome, the gxmms applet keeps causing gnome to crash when starting so I want to remove it
[09:44] <profoX`> T-CAN: and i liked it
[09:44] <soundray> mikeyyyy: who said that?
[09:44] <scifi> vermoos: whats matplotlib ?
[09:44] <T-CAN> profoX` ya, I am on ubuntu right now and I have learned a lot but I feel I could learn so much more by using arch
[09:44] <brandon_> did that bug with the volume controls in gnome being reversed get fixed yet? i updated today and it's still there
[09:44] <profoX`> T-CAN: well, what do you want to learn. you want to learn how your system works ?
[09:44] <T-CAN> profoX` pretty much
[09:45] <vermoos> scifi: its a great python-based plotting package, just about the best for producing great looking graphs and stuff
[09:45] <dsas> bingo: it's in /usr/share/themes/Human/
[09:45] <arcade> Heh, Ubuntu is one of the better distros I've used.. only a few flaws.. (defaults to UTF-8 (blrhg!), not a proper build environment by default, and Ubuntu is Yet Another Distro that hasn't figured out a good way to distribute Good Updates for old releases :)
[09:45] <tekNerd> I installed ubuntu on Virtual PC but I can-t make the metwork to work! Heeeeeeeelp!
[09:45] <dsas> ! tell rackerz about mp3
[09:45] <ubotu> dsas: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:45] <profoX`> btw! enough! i am going to reboot that fcking laptop. it is just crashing the live cd !! slow as hell and ive been waiting for 30 minutes for the "configure time" to open and it just keeps loading the disc. enough ;) is there  a text install included in the Desktop CD ?
[09:45] <neutrinomas1> Can anybody help me with a networking issue? (1 router, 1 computer, probably a dhcp issue ...) Netgear router ..
[09:45] <dsas> !tell rackerz about mp3
[09:45] <Anon3878> hey hey hey.  quick question about upgrading to dapper from breezy.  what is the best method and do i need to backup my home directory using the said method
[09:45] <zcat[1] > is there much point removing bluez and pcmcia from this machine (it's a desktop, no pcmcia or bluetooth)
[09:45] <dsas> rackerz: That should cover most of what easyubuntu does the 'manual' way
[09:45] <arcade> neutrinomas1: shoot.
[09:45] <scifi> vermoos: im only into 3D graphics, looking forward to using latest version of Blender that comes with dapper
[09:45] <soundray> arcade: it's so easy to upgrade to a new release -- why bother with old ones.
[09:46] <bingo> dsas, it's true ! I my debian will look like ubuntu ! thank you
[09:46] <mikeyyyy> will ubuntu work on a lan with windows xp macines?
[09:46] <rackerz> thanks dsas :)
[09:46] <malv> anyone having usb printer problems?
[09:46] <dsas> sloof3|ubuntu: yeah
[09:46] <soundray> mikeyyyy: sharing files and printers? Yes.
[09:46] <dsas> mikeyyyyy: yes
[09:46] <charle97> mikeyyy: you're messing with us
[09:46] <vermoos> scifi: do you know how to draw a Penrose tile? its tricky.
[09:46] <Ratzilla> does distro upgrading and clean installing a new distro have any differences?
[09:46] <mikeyyyy> well i just meant will the normal internet work
[09:46] <Anon3878> mikeyyyy yes
[09:46] <zcat[1] > mikeyyyy: transparently... you can browse the windows network, right-click to share folders, etc...
[09:46] <malv> clean install is best
[09:46] <eugman> profofx, alternate cd has text install. May want to check cd for integrity.
[09:46] <scifi> vermoos: no idea lol
[09:46] <tekNerd> I installed ubuntu on Virtual PC but I can-t make the metwork to work! Heeeeeeeelp!
[09:46] <malv> updates tend to break things
[09:46] <profoX`> T-CAN: well arch will learn you about how linux works better than most distros, because you have to edit alot of files by hand, configuration files that tell your system what to do and where to look
[09:47] <dsas> malv: It's fine as long as you have the ubuntu-* metapackages installed
[09:47] <arcade> soundray: New releases doesn't come every week ;)  I'm thinking in the way of.. an _official_ way to upgrade - without any conflicts - the kernel to the newest release, KDE to the newest release, and so forth.  Those things should be made readily available for the pervious 'stable' releases.
[09:47] <pandamonium> is there a way to set a global http proxy? i keep getting "can't resolve http" errors and nothing will update/download. my isp insists on using transparent proxies but the default one i go through is broken :(
[09:47] <profoX`> T-CAN: i havent tried gentoo MYSELF but thats because i hate the compiling-compiling-compiling :) and arch has speed optimizations by default in the packages for i686
[09:47] <malv> my wireless card was broken until I reinstalled dapper
[09:47] <neutrinomas1> arcade: Thanks. I will share a dsl line in a while, so I bought a router and one ethernet card to try things out first. I installed the ethernet card, connected it to the router; this part is probably OK since all leds on the router light up as expected. When bringing up eth0 ('ifup eth0') I get errors(?) like DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15.I then try to connect to the web interface at 192.168.0.1, and I can't 
[09:47] <michaels> my mouse's scrollwheel makes firefox go back and forewards.
[09:47] <Marticus> bah
[09:47] <profoX`> michaels: known bug
[09:47] <neutrinomas1> michaels: Known bug, check Malone
[09:47] <Marticus> no expert mode in dapper install?
[09:48] <profoX`> michaels: think you have to remap your buttons
[09:48] <davmor2> tekNerd: What virtual pc software did you use
[09:48] <arcade> neutrinomas1: Uhm, DHCPDISCOVER is not an error message :D
[09:48] <dsas> Marticus: There is if you use the alternative cd
[09:48] <T-CAN> profoX` ya, maybe I will just stick around with ubuntu for awhile and see if I feel I know enough about linux in general to switch to arch
[09:48] <Marticus> indeed
[09:48] <Andy101> anyone know how to remove an applet from a panel in gnome from the command line, is there a file I can edit?
[09:48] <wastrel> isn't that a preference in firefox?
[09:48] <shadow_mil> Where is the startup script?
[09:48] <mikeyyyy> sorry for all the weird questions, i am new to ubuntu
[09:48] <soundray> arcade: but... they *are*. I never had much trouble upgrading, either within-release or release-to-release.
[09:48] <Blake7984> anyone in here happen to have experience with sata raid in ubuntu?
[09:48] <tekNerd> Microsoft's 2004
[09:48] <pandamonium> michaels, there's a way to configure that in firefox
[09:48] <ZeromusDesktop> Blake7984, it just works
[09:48] <Marticus> dsas: much appreciated
[09:48] <michaels> how pandamonium?
[09:48] <ZeromusDesktop> unlike other certain OSes
[09:48] <profoX`> Is there a way to do a text install with the Desktop CD ?
[09:48] <arcade> soundray: I had to compile my 2.6.14 kernel myself. :)
[09:48] <Blake7984> ZeromusDesktop its not for me...its detecting my mirrored array as 2 seperate drives
[09:48] <mikeyyyy> do all firefox exstensions work and install normaly ?
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> neutrinomas1: What router ? I take it you enabled the dhcp server
[09:48] <pandamonium> you type something into the address bar to get a whole load of settings. let me look it up
[09:49] <davmor2> tekNerd: Sorry then no idea on how you force the issue with windows.
[09:49] <shadow_mil> ?
[09:49] <neutrinomas1> arcade: Quite possibly, I'm not sure (first time doing this). Any idea on what might be going wrong? eth0 gets assigned an 169.xx address, which according to the manual "is assigned by windows when an address cannot be obtained by dhcp'
[09:49] <soundray> arcade: I never needed one.
[09:49] <arcade> soundray: Wasn't any released for breezy when I needed it, if I remember correctly.
[09:49] <wastrel> about:config
[09:49] <ZeromusDesktop> Ah, I haven't used anything but Raid 0 so unfortunately I can't help you :(
[09:49] <arcade> soundray: And I needed it to get my SATA controlled supported.
[09:49] <aedwards323> !upgrade
[09:49] <osotogari> Hey all, if i upgrade to Dapper, all my settings with remain the same per user?
[09:49] <dar> ubuntu-fr
[09:49] <neutrinomas1> h3sp4wn: Netgear router. I need a server on my box? (I thought the dhcp server part was handled by the router)
[09:49] <siofwolves_> has 6.06 got WPA-PSK in the network manager ?
[09:49] <arcade> soundray: Wasn't that big an issue .. but it shouldn't b an issue at all.
[09:49] <aedwards323> !upgrade
[09:49] <MINK9Y> just HDD installed ubuntu, neither network/internet nor BT mouse work now (both worked fine from LiveCD). Is there some sort of setup util I've missed/skipped??
[09:49] <zcat[1] > osotogari: shjould do
[09:49] <arcade> soundray: The biggest issue was figuring out what things I needed to get a build environment set up
[09:49] <jenda> I need help with gnome-panel. It always jumps to the top part of the screen from the bottom when in use. It's set to autohide and semi-transparent. No special action seems to be necessary (perhaps mouse-over)
[09:49] <vermoos> scifi: the windows have a xp feel, but overall i'm impressed.
[09:49] <soundray> arcade: now I'm starting to see what you mean.
[09:49] <osotogari> excellent! Im off to upgrade so \o/
[09:49] <Blake7984> ZeromusDesktop its hardware raid though....why would it detect it as 2 seperate 250gb drives rather than just a single one?
[09:49] <h3sp4wn> neutrinomas1: No I meant on the router
[09:49] <michaels> pandamonium: about:config?
[09:49] <profoX`> i am so pissed at the desktop installer :/
[09:50] <neutrinomas1> h3sp4wn: No, I can't even connect to it.
[09:50] <soundray> arcade: I guess being bleeding edge is just not in the mission statement.
[09:50] <McNutella> upgradede to dapper and all my settings were banished, including my firefox which has been reset.. how lame is that!
[09:50] <h3sp4wn> neutrinomas1: Netgears default to 192.168.1.1 (in my experience until configured)
[09:50] <arcade> neutrinomas1: True.  That means the router isn't giving you a dhcp address, and then you of course cannot connect to 192.168.0.1
[09:50] <wastrel> pandamonium:  about:config and then scroll down to the mousewheel section...  i forget which exactly they are tho
[09:50] <defunkt> the power manager on dapper doesn't work apparently :(
[09:50] <aedwards323> !up-fucking-grade
[09:50] <ubotu> aedwards323: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:50] <zcat[1] > I did a clean install to dapper, then copied over just the dotfiles I really wanted to keep, firefox and tbird settings, etc... worked very well for me.
[09:50] <aedwards323> !upgrade
[09:50] <nnz> what does lvm stand for?
[09:50] <h3sp4wn> neutrinomas1: Try setting a static ip just until it is configured
[09:50] <ZeromusDesktop> Blake7984, I wish I knew D:
[09:50] <scifi> vermoos: yeh i heard how much slicker the lastest gnome is,, all ur apps work ok? firefox etc
[09:50] <defunkt> nnz large volume management
[09:50] <neutrinomass> h3sp4wn: How do I do that ? :(
[09:50] <jorgp> is there a package diff list for ubuntu desktop vs ubuntu server iso?
[09:50] <Blake7984> ZeromusDesktop what raid controller do you use?
[09:50] <arcade> neutrinomas1: How does the manual tell you to connect to the router?  You might try to do an "ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0" and then try to connect.
[09:50] <aedwards323> !dapper
[09:50] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[09:50] <soundray> nnz: logical volume management. Stay away from it if you can.
[09:50] <zcat[1] > If you just upgrade all your settings should migrate to the newer versions fairly cleanly.
[09:51] <nnz> k thnx
[09:51] <defunkt> err yeah, logical, not large
[09:51] <defunkt> duh
[09:51] <Mellar> after upgradeing to dapper. apt-get update gives me theese messages: http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  407 Proxy Authentication Required
[09:51] <h3sp4wn> neutrinomass: ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2
[09:51] <vermoos> scifi: everythings sweet, and i have stuff i didn't have previously :)
[09:51] <h3sp4wn> neutrinomass: then try ping 192.168.1.1
[09:51] <neutrinomass> arcade: Um.. just connect cables and do http://192.168.0.1 (it's just windows instructions )
[09:51] <arcade> soundray: I know being bleeding edge is not in the mission statement, but it's a hassle when you need support for your new raid controller.
[09:51] <profoX`> anyway
[09:51] <soundray> defunkt: I forgive you :)
[09:51] <profoX`> I see Ubuntu getting big :)
[09:51] <arcade> neutrinomass: Okay.  Then try the ifconfig statement.
[09:51] <nigel> hey guys, how do I get ubuntu to update itself to dapper?  the update manager isn't finding anything.
[09:51] <neutrinomass> h3sp4wn: Ok. Btw, why does ppp0 become inactive when I bring up eth0 ?
[09:51] <scifi> vermoos:  sweet :)
[09:51] <mikeyyyy> are there anythign for ubuntu like yahoo wigets?
[09:51] <michaels> pandamonium, profoX`, is this an ubuntu bug or a firefox one?
[09:52] <FunnyHat_Work> mikeyyyy, yea it's called gDesklets
[09:52] <arcade> neutrinomass: Probably because some default route thing. :)
[09:52] <arcade> neutrinomass: Depends on the dhcp-client, I guess.
[09:52] <mikeyyyy> cool
[09:52] <MagusG> what all is included on the ubuntu dvd?
[09:52] <zcat[1] > arcade: seriously, hardware raid sucks; it ties your array to a single controller. Software raid has minimal overhead and huge advantages.
[09:52] <mikeyyyy> thanks
[09:52] <Pilgrim-> thank you neutrinomass :)
[09:52] <soundray> arcade: yes it is... But then, you're supposed to buy a computer for your OS, not vice versa.
[09:52] <arcade> zcat[1] : Uhm, Why are you telling me this?
[09:52] <MINK9Y> anyone know of a Dapper Release Party in Copenhagen? =)
[09:52] <neutrinomass> Ok, brb to try the ifconfig thing ...
[09:52] <h3sp4wn> neutrinomass: That would only usually happen if you have two default routes (the dhcp will provide a default route which will replece the one which is thru ppp0
[09:52] <pandamonium> michaels, yes, about:config
[09:52] <arcade> soundray: Heh, sometimes you need a certain piece of hardware.
[09:52] <pandamonium> but don't know about the bug
[09:53] <trappist> zcat[1] : software raid has administrative overhead
[09:53] <spikeh> can someone please explain why when I change the screen resolution, it kicks me back to the login screen?
[09:53] <pianoboy3333> Can I swear somewhat/
[09:53] <michaels> pandamonium: any idea what to do in about:config?
[09:53] <MINK9Y> anyone got ideas on how I can get my internet working in Dapper? Worked fine from LiveCD but now I installed it's gone...
[09:53] <dmbt> spikeh: thats bad
[09:53] <georgegay> hi, i was introduced to linex about an hour ago, and i wanna connect to the net (this is windows), how the hell do i do it, its too hard
[09:53] <steve123> Hi;
[09:53] <Fee^> dsas: i figured it out, i was using the context-menu open-with earlier...not the right-click/open with to change the setting..  fixed :)
[09:53] <steve123> I just upgraded from breezy -> dapper.
[09:53] <steve123> All went well until I rebooted. The system told me that the xserver wouldn't start and this was most likely due to a poor configuration. I know nothing about xservers .
[09:53] <steve123> I tried
[09:53] <steve123> dpkg --configure xserver-org
[09:53] <steve123> but it told me that it was already configured and did nothing. There was no "--reconfigure" option.
[09:53] <steve123> Any help getting through this would be appreciated.
[09:53] <h3sp4wn> neutrinomass: If it is on 192.168.0.1 then set the address to 192.168.0.2
[09:53] <steve123> Thanks
[09:53] <pianoboy3333> Like f**k s**t
[09:53] <dmbt> spikeh: that probably means x.org crashed
[09:53] <pianoboy3333> I need major serious help
[09:53] <pianoboy3333> please?
[09:53] <FunnyHat_Work> pianoboy3333, whats up
[09:53] <arcade> zcat[1] : I needed to get my SATA controller supported, so that I could connect my disks, and run software raid over it.  I'm not using hardware raid. ;)
[09:53] <soundray> arcade: I'd continue to talk back, but we're getting offtopic...
[09:53] <FunnyHat_Work> pianoboy3333, i have a few minutes
[09:53] <spikeh> dmbt yes I've been having trouble with xserver
[09:53] <profoX`> going to try ubuntu on this pc now.. it has 512 MB and is a desktop pc instead of laptop
[09:54] <zcat[1] > spikeh: you know most 'hardware' raid controllers just do software raid using their own propriatory driver anyhow, right?
[09:54] <erUSUL> !tell pianoboy3333 about ask
[09:54] <pianoboy3333> FunnyHat_Work: ok... well, I tried to install fedora on an external drive...
[09:54] <profoXLap> :)
[09:54] <arcade> soundray: Well, I'm just saying what I find to be the flaws of ubuntu, and almost every linux distro except gentoo which is a pain ;)
[09:54] <FunnyHat_Work> pianoboy3333, there's your problem  ; )
[09:54] <pianoboy3333> erUSUL: I don't really care for ubotu right now
[09:54] <pianoboy3333> FunnyHat_Work: no...
[09:54] <georgegay> hi, i was introduced to linex about an hour ago, and i wanna connect to the net (this is windows), how the hell do i do it, its too hard
[09:54] <AnAnt> if I am going to get a new version of linux kernel as a tarball, is there a special way to compile it under Ubuntu ? sort of helping packages or so ?
[09:54] <Krpano> what is the command to config the xorg.conf from the terminal ?
[09:54] <spikeh> dmbt: thing is, somehow Xserver has started but in the highest resolution
[09:54] <pianoboy3333> FunnyHat_Work: and now ubuntu won't boot, I'm on a xubuntu desktop cd right now... normally I use ubuntu though
[09:54] <MikeW> Is there a hardware compatability list for XGL on Dapper?
[09:54] <zcat[1] > arcade: fair enough. Yes, I have a fair amount of unsupported hardware here too. It sucks.
[09:54] <nigel> can someone tell me how to upgrade to dapper?  the update manager doesn't seem to find anything new.
[09:54] <FunnyHat_Work> pianoboy3333, more than likely your bootload was fscked.
[09:55] <franzp> hi.........anyone with the ppc version ?
[09:55] <trappist> !tell nigel about upgrade
[09:55] <arcade> zcat[1] : It does.  Thing is, I usually only check whether it's supported by linux in general.
[09:55] <pianoboy3333> FunnyHat_Work: how can i fix this?
[09:55] <dmbt> !upgrade
[09:55] <FunnyHat_Work> pianoboy3333, best way to fix...  hmm.   Google for grub tutorials.
[09:55] <dar> qul est le canal franais ?
[09:55] <soundray> georgegay: do you have a modem or router?
[09:55] <arcade> zcat[1] : I go through the pain of getting it to work, but when support is out there, I think the distributors should do more to try'n support it out of the box.  Especially when it's just a newer kernel.
[09:55] <zcat[1] > Can't complain too much though, I get most of my hardware free trade-for-work or throwouts...
[09:55] <Seveas> !fr
[09:55] <FunnyHat_Work> pianoboy3333, you're going to have to do some console work in /boot/ and type something like ./grub i think
[09:55] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:55] <pandamonium> michaels, sorry no :( but google might be able to help if you search on about:config+firefox
[09:55] <FunnyHat_Work> !grub
[09:55] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[09:55] <FunnyHat_Work> pianoboy3333, check out the !grub help from ubotu
[09:55] <FunnyHat_Work> AHHH THERE IT IS
[09:56] <jorgp> whats the difference between desktop and alternate?
[09:56] <dsas> Fee^: ok cool.
[09:56] <nigel> thanks trappist
[09:56] <pianoboy3333> FunnyHat_Work: how can I use fsck? I unmounted all of my drives
[09:56] <FunnyHat_Work> pianoboy3333, the second link, "RECOVINGUBUNTO"etc.etc.
[09:56] <pandamonium> i know oyu double click on the properties and you can change the values
[09:56] <FunnyHat_Work> pianoboy3333, fscked = f*cked.   i was messin
[09:56] <zcat[1] > arcade: true, if there are opensource drivers ubuntu should definately work torwards including them. Wait a while and they probably will in a kernel update anyhow :)
[09:56] <pianoboy3333> FunnyHat_Work: oh, but I was seriously asking ;) lol
[09:56] <nnz> does it check for bad blocks when makin partitions?
[09:56] <neutrinomas1> It didn't work :( Host unreachable ...
[09:56] <soundray> !alternate
[09:56] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with no Live session available on it.
[09:56] <FunnyHat_Work> pianoboy3333, follow the instructions from this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:56] <davmor2> jorgp desktop is live/install alternative is install/oem/etc
[09:56] <arcade> zcat[1] : Heh, I rather just go through the "lesser pain" which is "do it yourself" - and compile stuff. :)
[09:56] <FunnyHat_Work> that is your best bet
[09:57] <neutrinomas1> I also get "No DHCPOFFERS received."
[09:57] <Xappe> hmm, is there a way to direct gdesklets to different screens? when i'm restarting my session all desklets go to screen 0
[09:57] <arcade> zcat[1] : But Ubuntu doesn't come with a proper build environment int he default install (uggh! ;)
[09:57] <wastrel> i am backing up my home directory
[09:57] <arcade> zcat[1] : But hey, I cope.  My gripes are light ones. :D
[09:57] <trappist> arcade: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:57] <shadow_mil> Where is the startup script?
[09:57] <aedwards323> Can someone who has successfully upgraded send me there sources.list file?
[09:57] <FunnyHat_Work> pianoboy3333, private message me if you still have problems, hopefully I will see it (I'm at work, busy for a long while)
[09:57] <arcade> trappist: Well, I've figured that out ;)
[09:57] <franzp> i just installer on my powerbook and the trackpad doesn`t respond as it should
[09:57] <pandamonium> can someone help me with my web proxy issue please? i can't install anything it seems
[09:57] <yoyoyo> how do i get wmv playback in firefox with vlc?
[09:57] <dsas> !tell yoyoyo about wma
[09:57] <franzp> what should i do ?
[09:58] <steve123> Thanks
[09:58] <neutrinomas1> h3sp4wn: ... ? Any idea (sorry for bugging you but I can't get this sorted out :( )
[09:58] <zcat[1] > Anyhow, I have a fun day ahead of me; I had a total newb drop his computer off last week, with a long list of things that he wanted working. Found the usual quantity of viruses and spyware (ie lots!) and gave up trying to clean it. new.net kills all the network stuff and needs a reinstall anyhow....  SO...
[09:58] <yoyoyo> dsas: i already got the win32 extensions for vlc but there is no playback
[09:58] <zcat[1] > .. now he's getting dapper.
[09:58] <nnz> tell me too about wm* coz i couldnt get it to work with vlc n firefox
[09:58] <steve123> Hi;
[09:58] <steve123> I just upgraded from breezy -> dapper.
[09:58] <steve123> All went well until I rebooted. The system told me that the xserver wouldn't start and this was most likely due to a poor configuration. I know nothing about xservers .
[09:58] <steve123> I tried
[09:58] <steve123> dpkg --configure xserver-org
[09:58] <steve123> but it told me that it was already configured and did nothing. There was no "--reconfigure" option.
[09:58] <michaels> pandamonium: okay, thanks, it worked, except now the scrollwheel does nothing... bleh.
[09:58] <steve123> Any help getting through this would be appreciated.
[09:58] <zcat[1] > done a wheet install, it does everything on his list. I'm dropping it off today.
[09:58] <steve123> Thanks
[09:58] <steve123> Steve
[09:58] <zcat[1] > *sweet
[09:59] <neutrinomas1> steve123: It was dpkg-reconfigure, one word :)
[09:59] <RadiantFire> steve123: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:59] <steve123> AH!
[09:59] <jorgp> davmor2, thanks
[09:59] <pandamonium> michaels, it's like a monkey's bloody paw trying to fix things with pcs isn't it?
[09:59] <steve123> okay, I will try again!
[09:59] <h3sp4wn> neutrinomas1: join #123networking (I missed what you said before)
[09:59] <RadiantFire> they really should put the xorgcfg back...
[09:59] <RadiantFire> it would be so much easier
[09:59] <neutrinomas1> h3sp4wn: Ooops, yes. Thanks.
[09:59] <michaels> pandamonium: yeps.
[09:59] <pianoboy3333> FunnyHat_Work: so what should I read on that page/
[09:59] <pandamonium> you find a solution for one thing, only to find it busts another 27
[10:00] <michaels> pandamonium: been wrestling with this problem and its family even since I started using Ubuntu a few months ago really...
[10:00] <profoXP> ubuntu works alot faster on the desktop machine and I am 100% sure that it is because of the bad dvd player in my laptop!
[10:00] <Andy101> gnome is crashing when it logs in, I get an error with the gxmms applet, is there any way to remove it without loging into gnome (i.e. from the command line?)
[10:00] <FunnyHat_Work> pianoboy3333, no idea, i haven't looked at it... I'll be at home and able to help you more in depth in about 4 hours.  I can look for you then i fyou owuld like
[10:00] <michaels> pandamonium: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185819
[10:00] <FunnyHat_Work> pianoboy3333, sorry, I'm at work and don't have much spare time
[10:00] <pianoboy3333> ok
[10:00] <paulproteus> Andy101, You could try removing the package of gxmms via apt-get remove gxmms.
[10:00] <AnAnt> add yahoo ahmed.sharaf_sds
[10:00] <AnAnt> if I am going to get a new version of linux kernel as a tarball, is there a special way to compile it under Ubuntu ? sort of helping packages or so ?
[10:01] <chapium> can anyone help me?  My display is all distorted.  Its like there's a diffraction pattern that blurs every other inch on my screen
[10:01] <paulproteus> AnAnt, There is.
[10:01] <paulproteus> !compilekernel
[10:01] <ubotu> You will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[10:01] <zcat[1] > better do winetools too and clean up the wine fonts before I send this home..
[10:01] <paulproteus> AnAnt, See ubotu's latest remark.
[10:01] <pandamonium> i can't update/upgrade/install anything. it just gives me one of a load of excuses
[10:01] <AnAnt> paulproteus: thanks
[10:01] <rackerz> Well I certainly feel like I'm doing something worth while installing these things manually ;)
[10:01] <paulproteus> pandamonium, Eh?  Name one such excuse.
[10:01] <pandamonium> crappy hardware, can't resolve http
[10:02] <wastrel> Andy101:  check ~/.gnome2/session-manual
[10:02] <paulproteus> pandamonium, Is the Ubuntu machine connected to the Internet?
[10:02] <pandamonium> i think it's telling me i'm rubbish and can't be trusted with software :(
[10:02] <franzp> does someone has dapper drake on a powerbook ?
[10:02] <pandamonium> paulproteus, it is, yes
[10:02] <paulproteus> can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:02] <paulproteus> franzp, I'm running it on an iBook G4.
[10:02] <petrik> Ok bet this has been asked before while I was sleeping but what's the difference between text mode and oem mode for the install
[10:02] <MagusG> can anyone tell me what all is included on the dvd release?
[10:02] <paulproteus> I installed the release candidate, and the graphical installer had some partioining glitchces, so I used the "alternate" installer.
[10:02] <pandamonium> paulproteus, i believe it's a web proxy issue... i need to find a way to explicitly set http proxies
[10:02] <paulproteus> pandamonium, Oh, okay!  We can handle that.
[10:03] <piphi> I tried running dapper from live cd and all I get is 640x480 (nvidia geforce4)
[10:03] <paulproteus> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/177 mentions how to make it use a proxy.
[10:04] <mikeyyyy> i just burned drapper to an rw cd and tried to install it but when i click start on it it says cant read boot cd
[10:04] <MINK9Y> network worked fine on LiveCD, now after install it's dead. Help? =)
[10:04] <paulproteus> mikeyyyy, My iBook at least had problems until I used a regular CD-R.
[10:04] <mikeyyyy> so use a cd r?
[10:04] <BleedingThrough> mite need to make sure you burned it as an image
[10:04] <mikeyyyy> i did
[10:04] <paulproteus> mikeyyyy, That's what I'd suggest.
[10:04] <mikeyyyy> u suggest cd r ok
[10:05] <mikeyyyy> what do rw do that make it not work?
[10:05] <pandamonium> paulproteus, i'm going to give my isp some grief over it though. i told them about the broken cache ages ago and they told me to explicitly set a working one... but they haven't fixed the broken one
[10:05] <pandamonium> i've taken some advice from trading standards over it
[10:05] <paulproteus> pandamonium, Well, good, ISPs should be given grief if they don't provide good internet service. (-:
[10:05] <BleedingThrough> oh yea, might have problems with the cd rw... sometimes they dont read in the drive properly and dont finalize
[10:05] <paulproteus> mikeyyyy, It's probably something about the drive that reads the CD-RW.
[10:05] <paulproteus> The one you're trying to boot on.
[10:05] <paulproteus> In my case, the iBook.
[10:05] <eugman> Anyone know why my font for chatzilla and slasldot looks crappy? No anti-aliasing? Default changed? Dapper is jealous of his older brother Breezy?
[10:05] <BleedingThrough> lol
[10:05] <franzp> paulproteus, did you have problems with the trackpad ??
[10:06] <paulproteus> franzp, No....
[10:06] <paulproteus> eugman, I don't know, but I explicitly told Firefox to use Bitstream fonts and then it looked better.
[10:06] <eXistenZ> dsas, Are a vim or an emacs guy?
[10:06] <paulproteus> Edit -> Preferences -> something
[10:06] <franzp> paulproteus, i guess you had luck.......i can't it to work as it sould
[10:06] <dsas> eXistenZ: I spend most of my day in vim at work
[10:06] <piphi> any way to load nvidia driver in live cd?
[10:06] <disasm> dsas: good choice ;-)
[10:07] <paulproteus> franzp, Well, powerbooks are different from ibooks.
[10:07] <eXistenZ> dsas, What do you program?
[10:07] <eugman> Ah, that helps a bit, paulproteus.
[10:07] <your_mom> i want to remove xgl, can someone tell me the name so i can remove
[10:07] <pandamonium> paulproteus, their telephone support is a joke... it sends you round and round a menu system before it finally tells you "this number is unavailable" and then cuts you off... honestly, it's like something out of the twilight zone
[10:07] <paulproteus> xserver-xgl , your_mom
[10:07] <franzp> paulproteus, well thanks anyway
[10:07] <damned> hi all
[10:07] <your_mom> thank you
[10:07] <pandamonium> anyway, thanks for the link... i'm going to try that now
[10:07] <paulproteus> franzp, Sure.  You should probably email Ben Collins or file a bug (or support request) against the kernel you're using.
[10:07] <pandamonium> :)
[10:08] <damned> anybody got vmware-player working in dapper?
[10:08] <franzp> paulproteus, thanks for the tip. i'll send one right away
[10:08] <AnAnt> paulproteus: but that is for linux kernels that are in Ubuntu's repos
[10:08] <dsas> eXistenZ: editing config files, ksh scripts, php/html/css/sql
[10:08] <WimS> hey, when i do modprobe ndiswrapper i get this error : "module ndiswrapper not found". When i do ndiswrapper -l it lists my card as detecded and river installed. Anybody know how i can get it to work ?
[10:08] <jadaz87> damned no i think vmware does not like dappers kernel
[10:08] <paulproteus> AnAnt, eh?
[10:09] <AnAnt> paulproteus: would those instructions work for kernel source that are not in the repos ?
[10:09] <paulproteus> franzp, Oh, let me see.
[10:09] <mdke_> is there a simple command I can do to convert a Unix style date stamp into a normal date?
[10:09] <eXistenZ> dsas, you do even php on vim?
[10:09] <paulproteus> AnAnt, Have you compiled a kernel before?
[10:09] <damned> jadaz87: yup... looks like that.
[10:09] <paulproteus> AnAnt, If so, I can bring you up to speed much faster.
[10:10] <QMario> What happens if I remove the Linux-image package?
[10:10] <disasm> eXistenZ: i do php in vim as well, it's not that odd is it?
[10:10] <Hentai_Jeff> I'm booting to the new dapper live CD to install and I keep getting a I/O buffer error
[10:10] <AnAnt> paulproteus: yup I did
[10:10] <scifi> just got: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox.............
[10:10] <Hentai_Jeff> on hdc
[10:10] <pianoboy3333> How can one use fsck?
[10:10] <scifi> when updating to dapper
[10:10] <eXistenZ> disasm, not much
[10:10] <Hentai_Jeff> anyone else having that probulm?
[10:10] <paulproteus> AnAnt, Okay, great.  Then instead of make bzimage (or whatever you kids do these days), do:
[10:10] <disasm> eXistenZ: what do you use?
[10:11] <eXistenZ> disasm, I use vim as well =)
[10:11] <paulproteus> sudo make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image kernel_headers
[10:11] <QMario> Will it break my system?
[10:11] <scifi> says use -fix-missing, how do i use that command ?
[10:11] <paulproteus> make-kpkg will make a kernel package.  --initrd is easy to understand, I hope; --append-to-version can be whatever you want, like your name.
[10:11] <paulproteus> scifi, On a command line, try: sudo apt-get --fix-missing install
[10:12] <dsas> eXistenZ: yeah, everything.
[10:12] <pandamonium> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/shadow/login_4.0.3-37ubuntu8_i386.deb
[10:12] <pandamonium>   Could not resolve http
[10:12] <paulproteus> pandamonium, That's pretty weird.
[10:12] <paulproteus> Are you sure you specified the proxy right?
[10:12] <AnAnt> paulproteus: what I mean is, do I have to get the kernel source from Ubuntu's repos, or I can get the original tarballs from kernel.org for example
[10:12] <paulproteus> AnAnt, kernel_image and kernel_headers are the names of the packages you'll build.
[10:12] <KNY[linux] > just ran a dist-upgrade and Dapper is awesome so far
[10:12] <KriS|> !sources
[10:12] <paulproteus> AnAnt, You can get the kernel tarballs from anywhere.
[10:12] <KNY[linux] > one question though; where's the XGL?
[10:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:12] <disasm> paulproteus: speaking of kernels, whats the best way to not have ubuntu install a new stock kernel every time one comes out (I compile all mine from vanilla sources with any patches I want to add)
[10:12] <AnAnt> paulproteus: ok, thanks
[10:12] <cyphase> ah, #ubuntu+1 points here
[10:13] <paulproteus> disasm, apt-get remove linux-686 or whatever other linux-* metapackages you have.
[10:13] <paulproteus> disasm, Note that from now on, they'll only do that for security updates.
[10:13] <disasm> ok, thanks
[10:13] <pandamonium> Acquire::http::Proxy "http://cdif-cache-1.server.ntli.net:8080";
[10:13] <gum5h03> hi, i'm looking for a LEAP client for Breezy - anybody know of a good place to get one ?
[10:13] <KriS|> !easysource
[10:13] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:13] <scifi> paulproteus: said 0 was installed or upgraded
[10:13] <pandamonium> in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[10:13] <duckdown> Is thare another VNC Viewing program that is reccomended besides the "vncviewer" that comes with Ubuntu?  I've got a couple of irritating glitches in it and I'm sure there are others..
[10:14] <pandamonium>  /proxy
[10:14] <paulproteus> pandamonium, that seems right.
[10:14] <paulproteus> Try configuring from Synaptic instead.
[10:14] <paulproteus> GUIs rock.
[10:14] <philstar> what is this ubuntu wallpaper - it's not the default, right? http://lunapark6.com/?p=1235
[10:14] <squiggly> PANDASSS
[10:15] <master_of_master> Hi, how can I configure the X-Server on dapper?
[10:15] <hyperactivecrond> did we ever break 1k lst night
[10:15] <deadcat> if i have requested for cds in the pass. do i have to request again or they will send it to me automatically?
[10:15] <Sub> yes it is philstar
[10:15] <shaitand> I recently reported a missing driver for a SATA2 controller chip on my board. The bug report now shows that the patch will be in the next Dapper kernel update. Do those updates get merged into the cd image? If not, can the updates be downloaded during the installation before the installer needs to access the drive that is on that controller?
[10:15] <hyperactivecrond> master_of_master: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:15] <Sub> master_of_master, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:15] <hyperactivecrond> 1k on this channel*
[10:15] <Sub> oh beat me too it :D
[10:16] <disasm> anyone else have problems with massive package dependency problems with upgrading kubuntu breezy (As soon as I get it upgraded I'm planning on getting rid of all the KDE packages and installing gdm and gnome, but it's what I put on my sisters comp last year...)
[10:16] <matthew_w> Hey guys -
[10:16] <pandamonium> same thing :(
[10:16] <zcat[1] > Why does wine use such ugly fonts instead of the prefectly good ones everything else comes up in ?
[10:16] <matthew_w> Will sudo apt-get dist-upgrade work to put me to dapper after replacing all instances of breezy in my /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:16] <philstar> Sub: thanks, seems wikipedia got it wrong, they've got same wallpaper as beta
[10:16] <linav> hyperactivecrond: yes there were more than 1k in this channel
[10:16] <uccoffee_loves_B> [Fserve Active]  - Triggers:[/ctcp uccoffee_loves_B 881903 golden kids & /ctcp uccoffee_loves_B MORE GUNBUSTER]  - Users:[0/5]  - Sends:[0/2]  - Queues:[0/3]  - SysReset 2.53
[10:16] <crimsun> uccoffee_loves_B: cut that crap out
[10:16] <jorgp> matthew_w, yes
[10:16] <pandamonium> but if i apt-get update in a terminal window it goes through the lot
[10:16] <deadcat> if i have requested for cds in the pass. do i have to request again or they will send it to me automatically?
[10:16] <JDahl> disasm: why don't you remove kde first, and dist-upgrade from a console?
[10:16] <disasm> it's no big deal, just everytime dpkg dies, have to dpkg -r some packages, and then dist-upgrade again till the next break
[10:17] <matthew_w> jorgp; When I did that for breezy, it missed some things
[10:17] <matthew_w> jorgp; Are you sure this won't?
[10:17] <disasm> JDahl: might not be a bad idea
[10:17] <matthew_w> (particularly, the boot screen did not show.)
[10:17] <scifi> k updated in synaptic, then ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again and it downloaded mozilla fine :)
[10:17] <jorgp> matthew_w, it should not
[10:17] <matthew_w> Ok.
[10:17] <Aeudian> I am trying to ./configure a application (gbindadmin) and im getting an error with gcc, checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables any ideas?
[10:18] <deadcat> if i have requested for cds in the pass. do i have to request again or they will send it to me automatically?
[10:18] <Sub> Aeudian, have you got the "build-essential" package?
[10:18] <Sub> Aeudian, if not type "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[10:18] <disasm> JDahl: next question, any easier way to get rid of all kde packages other than getting a list of them from dpkg -l and apt-get remove <list of packages>
[10:18] <eggzeck> deadcat: you have to request again.
[10:18] <deadcat> eggzeck: doh
[10:18] <zcat[1] > deadcat: in theory it's automatic. In practise I waited three months, got nothing, and re-ordered..
[10:18] <Aeudian> sub: not sure let me see
[10:18] <scifi> o dear i think its re-replacing everything else as well :O
[10:19] <kevor> Hi, question: is Hoary still being maintained? Got a Hoary computer that needs one program installed, no time to update the whole box to Dapper.
[10:19] <gumpish> durrr... how do I boot without X Windows? I tried typing "Linux 3" at the boot: prompt, to no avail.
[10:19] <Sub> Aeudian, its not there by default
[10:19] <disasm> JDahl: or for that matter, all of X, and I could start installing from scratch?
[10:19] <BrianG> i can't get any sound out of rhythmbox and i get no sound when my session starts or ends
[10:19] <deadcat> zcat[1] : thats what happened to me last time. and i had a presentation so i requested 20. )=
[10:19] <franzp> i can't get my trackpad to work on dapper drake....anyone can help me ?
[10:19] <zcat[1] > eggzeck: yeah, I understood you didn't need to reorder, but firsthand I know you do!
[10:19] <Aeudian> sub: nope i dont thanks
[10:19] <crimsun> kevor: yes, it's supported until October
[10:19] <pandamonium> i can cope with "Not enough beer error: You're not drunk enough to attempt this installation. Drain a few cans then try again"
[10:19] <eggzeck> zcat[1] : "In theory it's automatic"? You need to reorder :)
[10:19] <kevor> crimsun: thank you
[10:19] <pandamonium> i've had that a number of times
[10:19] <zcat[1] > wlug has an installfest in a month, we probably want at least 50, perhaps 100...
[10:20] <JDahl> disasm: I think removing kubuntu-desktop will get you far.  You could remove xserver-xorg also, but I would keep it
[10:20] <pandamonium> but this http thingy has me baffled
[10:20] <disasm> gumpish: go into rescue kernel, and remove gdm from startup
[10:20] <gumpish> thanks
[10:20] <pandamonium> perhaps... and this is a long shot... perhaps i should try switching it off and back on again
[10:20] <zcat[1] > eggzeck: there was something in the website back then about not needing to reorder. Serves me right for actually reading the instructions? :)
[10:20] <silke> hallo an alle
[10:20] <franzp> hallo
[10:20] <disasm> JDahl: kubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it just removes that, not all the dependencies it has
[10:20] <silke> wie gehts
[10:20] <nnz> whats the name of sshd package ? cant find one , tried opensshd openssh sshd...
[10:21] <paulproteus> pandamonium, Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and ALL files in /etc/apt ?
[10:21] <pianoboy3333> What would be a command to get a list of all installed packages?
[10:21] <gnomefreak> silke: english please
[10:21] <Madeye> guys I want to fresh install dapper, so I need to backup messed up dapper beta, any good way to backup evolution mail ?
[10:21] <paulproteus> nnz, apt-file search sshd
[10:21] <franzp> nicht so gut
[10:21] <JDahl> disasm: doesn't iti give you a pretty clean slate, if you remove it with aptitude?
[10:21] <eggzeck> zcat[1] : hehe, I've never seen that before, and so no one has ever gotten anything automatically. Incuding myself.
[10:21] <paulproteus> pianoboy3333, dpkg -l
[10:21] <pandamonium> pastebin?
[10:21] <shaitand> I recently reported a missing driver for a SATA2 controller chip on my board. The bug report now shows that the patch will be in the next Dapper kernel update. Do those updates get merged into the cd image? If not, can the updates be downloaded during the installation?
[10:21] <nnz> paulproteus tnx
[10:21] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[10:21] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] 
[10:21] <hopsing> opennssh-server
[10:21] <gnomefreak> pandamonium: ^^^
[10:21] <scifi> hey guys i ran sudo-apt get dist-upgrade, it said it only needed to fetch 133kb of 372MB, but it now seems to be replacing all the packages ive already downloaded as well, please advise ! :O
[10:21] <Okay> hi
[10:21] <eXistenZ> dsas, Do you use gnome?
[10:21] <zcat[1] > I think we'll have to burn them, shipit probably won't deliver them in time. Besides we can change the default webpages and do custom labels that way :)
[10:21] <franzp> und dir ?
[10:21] <paulproteus> pandamonium, Right, or you could just let me log in and try. (-;
[10:21] <silke> mir auch nicht
[10:21] <nnz> says apt-file command not found
[10:21] <Okay> im looking for free ntp server qomebody have a good url?
[10:22] <dsas> eXistenZ: Yep
[10:22] <gnomefreak> !de
[10:22] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[10:22] <eXistenZ> dsas, isn't kde faster than gnome?
[10:22] <gnomefreak> silke: ^^^
[10:22] <shaitand> existenz, are you trying to start a holy war? ;)
[10:22] <paulproteus> nnz, apt-get install apt-file ; it's a great utility. (-:
[10:22] <paulproteus> nnz, But the package you're looking for is openssh-server.
[10:22] <disasm> JDahl: all it says it'll remove is openoffice, go figure
[10:22] <nnz> okay thnx
[10:22] <gnomefreak> !offtopic
[10:22] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[10:23] <dsas> eXistenZ: Uhm, I have no idea I have used kde for about 15 minutes in the last 3 years
[10:23] <Booo> can someone please tell me how to install kde on ubuntu?
[10:23] <scifi> paulproteus: pls advise!
[10:23] <dsas> Booo: install kubuntu-desktop
[10:23] <runes> what would you recommend as the best email client on the gnome desktop?
[10:23] <paulproteus> scifi, Eh, what's the question?
[10:23] <eXistenZ> shaitand, it seems you are the one who is trying to start it =)
[10:23] <gnomefreak> Booo: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[10:23] <dsas> runes: Thunderbird
[10:23] <Once> runes: Evolution or Thunderbird.
[10:23] <TaTonka> ubuntu 5.10 isnt detecting my soundcard for some odd reason, any help?
[10:23] <nnz> is there any way to shut off this dapper wants a cd ? and make it dload ?what's it needs
[10:23] <scifi> paulproteus: i;ll scroll up and re-paste it
[10:23] <scifi> hey guys i ran sudo-apt get dist-upgrade, it said it only needed to fetch 133kb of 372MB, but it now seems to be replacing all the packages ive already downloaded as well, please advise ! :O
[10:23] <zcat[1] > xfci is faster, gnome and kde are approx the same in my experience..
[10:23] <paulproteus> scifi, That's because you were downloading out-of-date stuff.
[10:24] <runes> dsas:thanks  almost standardized users desktops (application wise)
[10:24] <paulproteus> That explains why you couldn't find a lot of the packages.
[10:24] <zcat[1] > xfce rather
[10:24] <gnomefreak> scifi: different names for dapper scifi if your upgrading to dapper
[10:24] <eXistenZ> I installed java and everything, how can I add it to firefox
[10:24] <paulproteus> scifi, Unless you ran apt-get clean, it will use already-downloaded packages.
[10:24] <kane777> is it possible to combine yes command and df -h to automaticaly update??? if yes how? and if not what can I use instead...?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: restart ff
[10:24] <TaTonka> ubuntu 5.10 isnt detecting my soundcard for some odd reason, any help?
[10:24] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, doesn't work =/
[10:24] <paulproteus> TaTonka, Try Ubuntu 6.06, released today.
[10:25] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, I Installed it from the multiverse
[10:25] <scifi> paulproteus: i only did this upgrade like 5 minutes ago, ur saying these have updated again since then? it was only ff that it failed to download first time around
[10:25] <nnz> is there any way to turn off dapper asking for a cd ? and make it dload what's it needs?
[10:25] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: to check type about:plugins in the address bar
[10:25] <hollerith> I 'upgraded' to Dapper last night - what a disaster!
[10:25] <TaTonka> how would i get 6.06
[10:25] <zcat[1] > TaTonka: lspci or lshw might show it.. not much we can do until we know what sound card you have.
[10:25] <hollerith> my ess soundcard doesn't work antmore
[10:25] <wastrel> nnz:  edit /etc/apt/sources-list  comment out the CD lines and uncomment the http lines
[10:25] <gnomefreak> TaTonka: are you on breezy now?
[10:25] <paulproteus> nnz, Yes.  The GUI way is to go to System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[10:25] <kane777> hollerith, what's wrong??
[10:25] <Seantater> ubotu tell TaTonka about upgrade
[10:25] <wastrel> nnz:  er sources.list
[10:25] <paulproteus> ubotu, tell paulproteus  about upgrade
[10:25] <scifi> paulproteus: its removing and replacing packages i already downloaded
[10:25] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak,  It doesn't show that it is installed
[10:25] <nnz> wastrel tnx
[10:25] <TaTonka> im on win xp, but untutu is right beside mme
[10:26] <hollerith> anymore,  half my apps have been removed
[10:26] <shaitand> I recently reported a missing driver for a SATA2 controller chip on my board. The bug report now shows that the patch will be in the next Dapper kernel update. Do those updates get merged into the stable cd image? If not, can the updates be downloaded during the installation?
[10:26] <hollerith> its tries to load pcmcia now at startup
[10:26] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:26] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: pickt he one you just installed
[10:26] <Seveas> hollerith, that's what you get for not paying attention when the upgrader asks questions....
[10:26] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, I did that also
[10:26] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, Do I have to do a symbolic link?
[10:27] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: what does jav -version say?
[10:27] <hollerith> such as?
[10:27] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: you should not need one no
[10:27] <hollerith> what questions?
[10:27] <Seveas> such as "is it ok to remove this truckload of packages"
[10:27] <hollerith> skip this step yes please
[10:27] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak,  existenz@amerdakka:~$ java -version
[10:27] <eXistenZ> java version "1.5.0_06"
[10:27] <eXistenZ> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
[10:27] <eXistenZ> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_06-b05, mixed mode, sharing)
[10:27] <eXistenZ> err
[10:27] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: dont paste in here
[10:27] <eXistenZ> sorry
[10:27] <andrewguy> Hey guys i'm considering installing Ubuntu on one of my winboxs just had a quick question does "Software Updates" update just the system or does it update gaim, firefox etc..
[10:27] <TaTonka> my soundcard is onboard a sis 5598
[10:28] <andrewguy> ?
[10:28] <TaTonka> its controller is Crystal Audio Chipset
[10:28] <goonzoo> hello
[10:28] <eggzeck> andrewguy: it updates whatever needs to be updated.
[10:28] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here know the name/where I can find the xubuntu print setter-upper?
[10:28] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, what now? :(
[10:28] <rackerz> Will this command install Adobe Reader with firefox plugin properly? - sudo apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread
[10:28] <Aeudian> Sub: you still here?
[10:28] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: im thinking give me a sec
[10:29] <andrewguy> eggzeck:  hmm interesting maybe I'll have to dual boot my mac mini as well
[10:29] <andrewguy> hehe
[10:29] <carthik> andrewguy, everything, all packages installed on the system
[10:29] <schmity> omg ubuntu is awsome
[10:29] <thug> wtf is this i downloaded ubuntu 2 times which is 672 mb and when the download its finish its shows the iso file only 27.mb any ideea ?
[10:29] <_thumper_> anyone know of some good cifs samples, my mount has all ownership set to 35000:root, trying to mount a maxtor NAS
[10:29] <WimS> where can i download the kernel headers for dapper ?
[10:29] <Sub> Yeah Aeudian :D
[10:29] <rackerz> Will this command install Adobe Reader with firefox plugin properly? - sudo apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread
[10:29] <philstar> what do I get on the DVD that I don't on the cd? more gui programs?
[10:29] <andrewguy> ubuntu has come along way.
[10:29] <goonzoo> i have a question "how to mount hard disk for full access for copy read & write?" sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[10:29] <hollerith> question is; can I use the breezy install disk to get back to where I was?
[10:29] <kane777> a question... could this "Details: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/nautilus-home.desktop': File not found" when trying to run home from places menu be anyhow connected to fact that i accidentally uninstalled gnome??
[10:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell WimS about headers
[10:29] <TaTonka> my soundcard is onboard a sis 5598.......... its controller is Crystal Audio Chipset
[10:29] <_thumper_> from fstab: //maxtor200/general /media/maxtor200/general cifs rw,username=tim,domain=flatcats,file_mode=0644,dir_mode=075  0  0
[10:29] <paulproteus> goonzoo, That's more than a qestion - it's part of an answer.
[10:29] <goonzoo> i have a question "how to mount hard disk for full access for copy read & write?" sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[10:29] <paulproteus> I'm confused.
[10:29] <philstar> goonzoo: -o rw
[10:29] <thug> any ideea guys ?
[10:30] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: im not real sure why its not using it are you on dapper?
[10:30] <Aeudian> Sub: seems like im missing another file now, go figure =P...anyway "checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 1.3.13) were not met:"
[10:30] <goonzoo> umask=???
[10:30] <scifi> paulproteus: any advise? i just assume replacing/reinstalling these packages/apps wont hurt my installation?
[10:30] <Seveas> goonzoo, not possible for ntfs
[10:30] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, yeah
[10:30] <Sub> you should have that package.
[10:30] <goonzoo> posible i had that
[10:30] <Sub> may i ask what your trying to compile?
[10:30] <shaitand> I recently reported a missing driver for a SATA2 controller chip on my board. The bug report now shows that the patch will be in the next Dapper kernel update. Do those updates get merged into the stable cd image? If not, can the updates be downloaded during the installation?
[10:30] <Sub> is it gimpshop?
[10:30] <paulproteus> goonzoo, You want read-write NTFS?
[10:30] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: try installing java from the sun-java site and follow the instructions on the restricted site
[10:30] <paulproteus> Here's how:
[10:30] <philstar> Seveas: I believe this is experimental in the kernel, has been for a while?
[10:30] <WimS> gnomefreak, yeah i know that, but ndiswrapper doesn't work on my linux bot after upgrading so i'm going to install it by source. But i need the kernel headers and without network on the linux box i need to download them manually with windows
[10:30] <zerokarmaleft> i'm running into this bug in dapper, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg/+bug/40748, any ideas on where i can get more info to report?
[10:30] <goonzoo> yes
[10:30] <ciaron> hmm after checking disk integrity on the server disk it goes into some wierd error loop
[10:30] <paulproteus> goonzoo, Install the package called fuse-utils.
[10:30] <Aeudian> Sub: im trying to install gbindadmin gui for bind9
[10:30] <paulproteus> Then use the program "ntfsmount" to mount your NTFS.
[10:30] <Seveas> philstar, experimental for a good reason
[10:30] <Aeudian> sub: also says "No package 'gtk+-2.0' found"
[10:30] <gnomefreak> i remember i had to do that last time i installe dit
[10:31] <WimS> linux box*
[10:31] <paulproteus> Read its man page if you need more, goonzoo.
[10:31] <TaTonka> can any1 help me with my soundcard problem :(
[10:31] <philstar> Seveas: what happened to captive?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> WimS: if you read the pm it tells you how to install them
[10:31] <Sub> hmm
[10:31] <bina> does anyone know of a prog in Linux that will play mp3 with DRM?
[10:31] <goonzoo> what page ?
[10:31] <thug> does anyone know why it only save 27.mb from the iso image ?
[10:31] <Sub> well Auedian, im not sure, i need to go grab something to eat, so maybe worth asking someone else
[10:31] <Booo> anyone here using ubuntu on powerbook g4
[10:31] <Sub> later.
[10:31] <hollerith> is it possible to get use my original breezy disk to fresh install Breezy again
[10:31] <Seveas> philstar, never ported to fuse
[10:31] <Aeudian> Sub: okay later
[10:31] <paulproteus> goonzoo, "man ntfsmount" is how to read the man page of ntfsmount.
[10:32] <andrewguy> Booo: I'm downloading it for my mini..
[10:32] <andrewguy> Booo:  if that counts hah.
[10:32] <WimS> gnomefreak it doesn't say where i can download it from. Since internet dont work on my linux box i need to get it manually with windows
[10:32] <gnomefreak> hollerith: yes
[10:32] <gnomefreak> WimS: they are in main repo iirc
[10:32] <kane777> a question... could this "Details: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/nautilus-home.desktop': File not found" when trying to run home from places menu be anyhow connected to fact that i accidentally uninstalled gnome?? Also many options in system administration are gone... does that have to do with the fact that i uninstalled gnome???
[10:32] <goonzoo> ok thanx i'll try
[10:32] <gnomefreak> WimS: all you should have to do is type the command in terminal and they should install
[10:32] <thug> take`s 30 min to download the 697mb iso file and when is finish the iso file its only 27mb any ideea ?
[10:32] <TaTonka> can any1 help me with my soundcard problem? ubuntu isnt detecting it
[10:33] <hollerith> thanks gnomefreak!
[10:33] <philstar> so what do I get on the dvd that's more than on the cd?
[10:33] <yoyoyo> i having a problem with streaming wmv playback in firefox.
[10:33] <zerokarmaleft> bina: mp3 doesn't support drm
[10:33] <gnomefreak> hollerith: yw
[10:33] <nnz> says failed to fetch http://us.archive.../ubuntu/dists/dapper../packages.g sources.gz is this normal?
[10:33] <WimS> gnomefreak it tells me that i can't connect to the main repository (obviously since ndiswrapper doesn't work)
[10:33] <shaitand> Does anyone know the answer to my question?
[10:33] <zerokarmaleft> bina: you sure you're talking about the right format?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> philstar: if your gonna use the http repos go with the cd its smaller ;)
[10:33] <bina> zerokarmaleft: doesnt it? oh right :)  How come xmms wont play it?
[10:33] <scifi> its reached Setting up gdm (2.14.6-0ubuntu2)...default is keep current version, Y to install package maintainers version, what should i do ?
[10:33] <IRC> im having problems with streaming wmv playback in firefox.
[10:34] <gnomefreak> WimS: comment all but the cdrom repo out and try than
[10:34] <conn> is anyone here using apt-cacher? When I try to install it from a fresh install of dapper, it's not connecting to the proxy when updating apt.. can someone confirm? This never happened to me before with all other dapper flights
[10:34] <thug> can someone please help me ?
[10:34] <bina> zerokarmaleft: well, its definitely mp3, i just thought it had some kind of DRM because xmms wasnt playing it, got amarok on it now though :) yay
[10:34] <philstar> gnomefreak: I'm on bt but it's 1h to get the DVD
[10:34] <gnomefreak> scifi: y
[10:34] <IRC> thug: just ask the question
[10:34] <thug> i did
[10:34] <IRC> thug: repeat it
[10:34] <gnomefreak> philstar: if your not using the cd/dvd repo its not gonna make a difference
[10:34] <TaTonka> can any1 help me with my soundcard problem? ubuntu isnt detecting it
[10:34] <thug> IRC aint that stupid to ask for help without telling you my problem
[10:34] <zerokarmaleft> bina: apt-get install xmms-mad, probably
[10:34] <thug> IRC i did twice
[10:35] <Sgeo> Was it released?
[10:35] <bina> zerokarmaleft: thanks ill try it
[10:35] <IRC> thug: ok. your loss
[10:35] <scifi> gnomefreak: k, its carried on , and setting up more packages now
[10:35] <Fast> how do i install NetworkManager in dapper?
[10:35] <thug> IRC yeah cheers
[10:35] <shaitand> I recently reported a missing driver for a SATA2 controller chip on my board. The bug report now shows that the patch will be in the next Dapper kernel update. Do those updates get merged into the stable cd image? If not, can the updates be downloaded during the installation?
[10:35] <ktogias> I use fglrx driver for X at my laptop. I installed linux-686 and I noticed that when booting the 686 kernel xorg use much more cpu than when running 386 kernel. Is it a bug? Whould reconfiguring xorg or fglrx package while in 686 fix it?
[10:35] <ciaron> what does use LVM mean in the first partition menu?
[10:36] <zcat[1] > It's funny installing stuff in wine .. double click, next, next, OK, next, 'reboot' .. for every program. Windows users think linux is hard? In synaptic I'd just click a few boxes and go..!!
[10:36] <rukuartic> Are there any good cli iptable config programs?
[10:36] <shaitand> ciaron Large Volume Manager, if you use it properly it will allow you to have a single volume that spans multiple disks.
[10:36] <Sub> rukuartic, iptables???
[10:36] <scifi> gnomefreak: i get the feeling its installing all 72,000 packages, i hope thats not the case ?
[10:36] <kane777> thug, well have you tried downloading it from BT (bit torrent)... obviously your connection was reset/failed during download... try bittorrent... this way you can resume broken downloads...
[10:36] <disasm> rukuartic: bash?
[10:36] <jazzido> Is the upgrade still inactive? i saw a post on launchpad about that b/c of problems with nvidia packages
[10:36] <gnomefreak> scifi: no
[10:36] <pandamonium> paulproteus, i've uploaded the info you asked for to some webspace
[10:36] <frying_fish> zcat[1] : yeah, I know the feeling
[10:36] <Wizardling> Could someone please help me find out what Macs are supported by the new release of Ubuntu?
[10:36] <rukuartic> Sub, disasm: I'm too lazy to print out a 50 page manual and read it, already did it with Rsync?
[10:36] <pandamonium> i can message you the url
[10:36] <gnomefreak> shouldnt be and where did you get 72000 packages?
[10:36] <jimcooncat> LVM = Logical Volume Manager
[10:37] <frying_fish> I'm currently trying to install pro evolution soccer 5, unsucessfully, no matter what I try.
[10:37] <paulproteus> pandamonium, Well, fine, URL?
[10:37] <thug> kane777 no the connection didnt failed
[10:37] <Wizardling> and WTF is it so hard to find a list of supported computers?
[10:37] <pianoboy3333> Where is the firefox xml file for bookmarks?
[10:37] <Sgeo> I was under the impression that the upgrade-mananger would do something
[10:37] <ciaron> ah i see, k next question :) this LAMP install thing, is just the same as the basic server install with the 4 packages on top? or is there anything else different about it?
[10:37] <disasm> rukuartic: what are you trying to do with iptables? nat? block everything?
[10:37] <scifi> gnomefreak: i remember it being a figure like that in the summary at the bottom of synaptic
[10:37] <LinuxJones> Wizardling, what computers ?
[10:37] <thug> kane777 never seen this before ...
[10:37] <gnomefreak> 19,000 if your lucky
[10:37] <kane777> thug, well did it go all the way to 100%??
[10:37] <gnomefreak> !info dapper
[10:37] <rukuartic> disasm: Eh... You ever heard of guarddog?
[10:37] <thug> kane777 yes
[10:38] <Wizardling> I've several older CRT iMacs that I'd like to know about.
[10:38] <kbrosnan> pianoboy3333, there is no xml file there is bookmarks.html in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[10:38] <rackerz> what should i install for rar, ace, 7zip support?
[10:38] <scifi> gnomefreak: oh sorry i think i meant 17000 :P
[10:38] <disasm> rukuartic: heard of it, never used it
[10:38] <thug> kane777 downloaded complete
[10:38] <gnomefreak> breezy had around 13-15,000
[10:38] <kane777> thug, hmmm... that's strange...
[10:38] <thug> kane777 yes it is
[10:38] <rukuartic> disasm: Its basically a kde gui iptables configurer
[10:38] <leks> hell i want an edgy repo :(
[10:38] <Wizardling> everything from a bondi blue iMac rev a to newer CRT iMacs.
[10:38] <revmouse> leks: don't we all
[10:38] <rukuartic> disasm: Front end :P I'm just looking for a command line version of that.
[10:38] <gnomefreak> leks: it will be a while
[10:38] <scifi> gnomefreak: yeh temporary brain glitch there :c
[10:38] <Wes> I need help with Dapper's Partioner if anyone can help, I'd apppreciate it
[10:38] <rackerz> what should i install for rar, ace, 7zip support?
[10:38] <leks> gnomefreak: why?
[10:38] <revmouse> leks: last I heard it will be mid june
[10:38] <gnomefreak> leks: they _just_ released dapper
[10:38] <rukuartic> Is the LVM Server required, or is it kinda like RAID suport, you don't need it
[10:39] <zcat[1] > rackerz: easyubuntu .. :)
[10:39] <gnomefreak> not but like 12 hours ago
[10:39] <pianoboy3333> ok
[10:39] <IRC> can someone help me with streaming wmv playback in forefox?
[10:39] <leks> gnomefreak: whatever?
[10:39] <rukuartic> Wes: You're question's kinda vague. Describe your problem :P
[10:39] <shaitand> I recently reported a missing driver for a SATA2 controller chip on my board. The bug report now shows that the patch will be in the next Dapper kernel update. Do those updates get merged into the stable cd image? If not, can the updates be downloaded during the installation?
[10:39] <leks> im sure they played already with new packages
[10:39] <pianoboy3333> Wait, dpkg -l gives me all of my installed packages?
[10:39] <rackerz> IRC: w32codecs
[10:39] <rukuartic> pianoboy3333: Yep
[10:39] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[10:39] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, haha, I fixed it :)
[10:39] <charle97> rukuartic, lvm isn't required
[10:39] <scifi> gnomefreak: its finished!!! :D
[10:39] <gnomefreak> scifi: ok
[10:39] <rukuartic> charle97: What exactly does it do?
[10:39] <pandamonium> i have to nip out for a few moments... will be back in about 5 or 10
[10:39] <wundaboy> can i downloiad a net-install cd?
[10:39] <dsas> shaitand: things most likely will not get merged to the cd
[10:39] <revmouse> Is there a way to get kubuntu running along side ubuntu without dual booting, so I can see what the KDE environment is like?
[10:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell wundaboy -about netinstall
[10:39] <Wizardling> So is there a list of supported Macs somewhere?
[10:39] <dsas> revmouse: install kubuntu-desktop
[10:40] <kane777> thug, but did you see it being close to 100%... because it happend few times to me that I was downloading something and when I came back it said download complete but the connection was reset during this and my download program thought its finished...
[10:40] <TaTonka> can any1 help me with my soundcard problem? ubuntu isnt detecting it
[10:40] <JacksonBrown> What changed between the RC and the final... my GeForce4 MX 4000 is only booting up into 640x480
[10:40] <revmouse> dsas: k thx
[10:40] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, I installed the package sun-java5-plugin , everything works wonder now.
[10:40] <dsas> Wizardling: Nope. You may find something in the wiki
[10:40] <Wes> rukuartic: I am trying to install dapper (long time ubu user) and the partioner shows my whole drive as "unallocated" when I have several partitions
[10:40] <JacksonBrown> What changed between the RC and the final... my GeForce4 MX 4000 is only booting up into 640x480
[10:40] <JacksonBrown> What changed between the RC and the final... my GeForce4 MX 4000 is only booting up into 640x480
[10:40] <JacksonBrown> What changed between the RC and the final... my GeForce4 MX 4000 is only booting up into 640x480
[10:40] <JacksonBrown> What changed between the RC and the final... my GeForce4 MX 4000 is only booting up into 640x480
[10:40] <JacksonBrown> What changed between the RC and the final... my GeForce4 MX 4000 is only booting up into 640x480
[10:40] <IRC> rackerz: i installed those packages already. when vlc tries to play streaming wmv, it says no picture. whtn totem tries them in firefox, it doesnt do anything
[10:40] <JacksonBrown> What changed between the RC and the final... my GeForce4 MX 4000 is only booting up into 640x480
[10:40] <LoRez> Warning: `JacksonBrown' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kills/klines will be issued.
[10:40] <JacksonBrown> What changed between the RC and the final... my GeForce4 MX 4000 is only booting up into 640x480
[10:40] <JacksonBrown> What changed between the RC and the final... my GeForce4 MX 4000 is only booting up into 640x480
[10:40] <JacksonBrown> What changed between the RC and the final... my GeForce4 MX 4000 is only booting up into 640x480
[10:40] <JacksonBrown> What changed between the RC and the final... my GeForce4 MX 4000 is only booting up into 640x480
[10:40] <JacksonBrown> What changed between the RC and the final... my GeForce4 MX 4000 is only booting up into 640x480
[10:40] <rukuartic> revmouse: Download the kubuntu desktop cd, pop it in yoru computer and boot. It'll run as a livecd
[10:40] <rackerz> IRC: did you restart firefox?
[10:40] <scifi> gnomefreak: do i need to do a full system restart or just log-out and in again ?
[10:40] <rukuartic> !ops
[10:40] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[10:40] <bina> zerokarmaleft: sweet its working :) thanks
[10:40] <nnz> JacksonBrown go f yourself
[10:40] <scifi> lmao@jackson
[10:40] <shaitand> dsas, is there any way to install to that drive short of making a new cd image myself?
[10:40] <gnomefreak> i got it sebest
[10:40] <IRC> rackerz: yeah. didnt do anythign
[10:40] <gnomefreak> Seveas:
[10:40] <Seveas> gnomefreak, lol, you just beat me ;)
[10:40] <nnz> wtf?
[10:41] <Wizardling> Hmm, anyone here tried the new version of Ubuntu on the older CRT iMacs yet?
[10:41] <rackerz> IRC: Ok, i'll just check something out
[10:41] <Seveas> nnz, behave
[10:41] <gnomefreak> nnz: care to try it again?
[10:41] <disasm> wow, K-Lined, someone has power in this channel :-D
[10:41] <Wizardling> 5.10 worked ok on all of mine
[10:41] <gnomefreak> nnz: your language was uncalled for
[10:41] <nalioth> Wizardling: it should work just fine on them.
[10:41] <rukuartic> yea was going to say
[10:41] <Seveas> *whistles*
[10:41] <dsas> shaitand: I don't know.
[10:41] <nnz> why?
[10:41] <nnz> care to explain
[10:41] <Wizardling> so if 5.10 worked, so will the newer version?
[10:41] <nnz> like theres someone under 13 here
[10:41] <thug> kane777 kane777 well i didnt  but i tryed 2 times and happend same thing every time ;)
[10:41] <scifi> gnomefreak: do i need to do a full system restart or just log-out and in again ?
[10:41] <Wizardling> No major changes?
[10:41] <gnomefreak> nnz: yes  there may be
[10:41] <Booo> can someone help me with mouse pad on a powerbook g4?
[10:41] <Wes> Rukuartic: I am trying to install dapper (long time ubu user) and the partioner shows my whole drive as "unallocated" when I have several partitions
[10:41] <Seveas> nnz even if there isn't
[10:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell nnz about rules
[10:41] <rackerz> IRC: Are your running Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[10:41] <disasm> Wizardling: i've run it on a number of macs, not necessarily the ones your talking about though
[10:41] <zcat[1] > nnz there could be, you don't know...
[10:41] <revmouse> nnz: We can still be gentlemen :)
[10:41] <Seveas> you still behave in here or leave
[10:42] <shaitand> dsas, fair enough. :)
[10:42] <IRC> rackerz: ubuntu 5.10
[10:42] <intelikey> Q.  thought i'd go ahead and update the the official release.  ran apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade.  it fetched the update but said nothing to upgrade   does the sources list change from dapper to dappre-lst  or something ?
[10:42] <rackerz> hmmm ok. sec.
[10:42] <nnz> havent said the whole word...
[10:42] <Wizardling> cool, thanks disasm
[10:42] <dsas> intelikey: Nope.
[10:42] <eXistenZ> !ati
[10:42] <tkrin> anyone running Dapper on an Apple PowerBook G4?
[10:42] <ubotu> ati is probably http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[10:42] <Wizardling> runs off to ShipIt...
[10:42] <tkrin> Sound is horrible.  any advice?
[10:42] <disasm> Wizardling: you shouldn't have any problems though, only problem I've seen is wireless on laptops (stupid broadcom)
[10:42] <rackerz> IRC: sudo apt-get install totem-xine xine-ui
[10:42] <intelikey> dsas so there is no change from nonday ?
[10:42] <eXistenZ> gnomefreak, I have ATI 9250, is it considered with the 9200 family?
[10:42] <pinky> omg it's like, new version TODAY!
[10:42] <Wes> 6 can someone help me?
[10:42] <pinky> happy day everyone!
[10:42] <Wizardling> Well, that won't be an issue for me.
[10:42] <maikol> how does one configure a usb wireless device
[10:42] <gnomefreak> eXistenZ: not sure i dont play with ati
[10:43] <zcat[1] > I ordered on shipit a week ago... ten u's and ten k's ...
[10:43] <rukuartic> Wes: Thats very odd. There might be a problem with hard drives with more than 7 partitions or smoething. I'm really not all that managable. Were you going to just format the hard drive or were you trying to keep your partitions?
[10:43] <andrewguy> tkrin:  I'm going to install it on my mini g4 are you running into problems with it or anything?
[10:43] <TaTonka> ubuntu doesnt detect my soundcard
[10:43] <Wizardling> I use 100Mbps baseT on all my desktops
[10:43] <thug> IRC looks like you`re the one who needs help :)
[10:43] <IRC> thug: yeah... i suck at linux
[10:43] <tkrin> andrewguy: Airport is a bit flaky, but I got it working.  need to use CLI to control it.
[10:43] <livingdaylight> ok,what happened? upgraded to Dapper and my sytem wouldn't detect eth0?
[10:43] <Wes> rukuartic: I want to keep my partitions, it's never been a problem before with any other version with the text install
[10:43] <r0xoR> wait, wtf is up with this "server install" version?
[10:43] <thug> IRC ubuntu rocks man
[10:43] <tkrin> andrewguy: sound works but quality is quite bad.
[10:43] <rukuartic> IRC, its a learning experience :P takes a while to learn
[10:43] <zcat[1] > TaTonka: and your soundcard / chipset is ??
[10:43] <eobanb> r0xoR, if you don't know what it is, you don't need it
[10:43] <TaTonka> my soundcard is onboard a sis 5598.......... its controller is Crystal Audio Chipset
[10:44] <Wizardling> Wow - I've not seen #ubuntu this busy for a while :-) It's great!
[10:44] <tkrin> andrewguy: other than those two things, works quite nicely, IMO.
[10:44] <shaitand> Anybody know of a good howto on putting custom packages into the Ubutunu live cd install?
[10:44] <xanavim> r0xoR: nothing special, it's a server install
[10:44] <sala2038> anybody help me to upgrade of Brezzy to Dapper ?????
[10:44] <kane777> thug, so there are two possibilities... try downloading via jigsaw or bittorrent... or there is one more wget... this can resume downloads as well... or there is just one more... ship it cds... but I think you don't want to wait two months... :)
[10:44] <andrewguy> tkrin:  thanks for the heads up.
[10:44] <thug> linux aint no click click finish thing
[10:44] <Soggoth> Hello everybody! Can someone help me, i need some info
[10:44] <eobanb> !tell TaTonka about sound
[10:44] <intelikey> dsas so there is no change from monday until now ?
[10:44] <r0xoR> i don't get it... if you want to install it on a computer... you have to use the "server install" version?
[10:44] <rukuartic> r0xoR: It basically means things are streamlined for performance. It also means its kinda hard to use :P Basically, no nice pretty gui
[10:44] <IRC> yeah, ubuntu is great it just has a learning curve
[10:44] <dsas> intelikey: not that I remember
[10:44] <kane777> a question... could this "Details: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/nautilus-home.desktop': File not found" when trying to run home from places menu be anyhow connected to fact that i accidentally uninstalled gnome?? Also many options in system administration are gone... does that have to do with the fact that i uninstalled gnome???
[10:44] <rackerz> IRC: if you've installed w32codecs then streaming wmv should work. and if you've instaleld totem.
[10:44] <rukuartic> r0xoR: No you don't. Chose the first option, and then doubleclick on the "Install to Hard Drive"
[10:44] <r0xoR> wait, so how do install a normal desktop then?
[10:44] <Wes> @Rukuartic:  I want to keep my partitions, it's never been a problem before with any other version with the text install, is there a way to access the text install with Dapper?
[10:44] <dsas> intelikey: what's the output of dpkg-l pcmcia -cs ?
[10:44] <xanavim> r0xoR: no, you don't *have* to use the server install version
[10:44] <tkrin> andrewguy: no problem.  GL
[10:44] <willdev> hey people
[10:44] <sala2038> anybody help me to upgrade of Brezzy to Dapper ?????
[10:44] <revmouse> I have a Dell Latitude 100L, and my LCD screen doesn't turn off when I close the lid, but it shuts off after 10 minutes of inactivity. any ideas?
[10:45] <dsas> intelikey: sorry that should be dpkg -l pcmcia-cs
[10:45] <Soggoth> I have a Compaq nc6220 and i cannot get the wireless adapter that is integrated to work
[10:45] <r0xoR> wow, this is totally non-human friendly lol
[10:45] <zcat[1] > r0xoR: no, there's just ONE disk now that does live CD and install. the alternative one is an 'alternative'
[10:45] <willdev> anyone got a torrent for ubuntu 6?
[10:45] <xanavim> r0xoR: should be the top option for installation
[10:45] <IRC> rackerz: theres nothing. the playback box is black and if i click on play it goes automatically to pause.
[10:45] <eobanb> !tell sala2038 about upgrade
[10:45] <dsas> !tell sala2038 about upgrade
[10:45] <thug> kane777 :)) i wanna get it done tonight so i can fire up dapper. thanks for you`r help
[10:45] <intelikey> No packages found matching pcmcia-cs.
[10:45] <rackerz> IRC: try restarting, i had too.
[10:45] <intelikey> dsas ^
[10:45] <delire_nacht> r0xoR: you put in a live CD, boot-up and click install.
[10:45] <r0xoR> uhhh... i see "desktop" and "server install" and "alternate install" those are the only three i see
[10:45] <sala2038> dsas, Thanks
[10:45] <IRC> rackerz: my pc or firefox?
[10:45] <r0xoR> ohhhh
[10:45] <r0xoR> ok then :)
[10:45] <delire_nacht> r0xoR: choose 'desktop' if you're installing on a desktop.
[10:45] <Hentai_Jeff> r0x0r:could be worse, could be winblows
[10:45] <eobanb> willdev, look on ubuntu.com
[10:45] <rackerz> IRC: Your PC, my music or video playback didn't work until i did
[10:45] <zcat[1] > r0xoR: when you boot the live CD, there are two icons on the desktop. The second one is 'install to disk' and starts the realy nice GUI isntaller
[10:46] <IRC> rackerz: ok thanks man
[10:46] <Wes> @all: is there a way to text install with Dapper Drake?
[10:46] <r0xoR> zcat[1] , huh, that's an interesting approach then :)
[10:46] <rukuartic> Wes: I'm sorry... I'm not all that knowledgable with that stuff =\ I'm sorry I can't help you. You could try looking at /dev, (ls /dev/hd*) to see if its recognizing your partitions
[10:46] <dsas> intelikey: two ticks,
[10:46] <dodek> hi
[10:46] <eobanb> Wes, yes, download the install CD rather than the desktop CD
[10:46] <gnomefreak> Wes: get the alternative iso
[10:46] <Booo> i just installed ubuntu 6 on my g4 powerbook but so far the mouse pad, and wireless is not working
[10:46] <intelikey> dsas why would i have pc-card support on a box with no pc cards ?
[10:46] <xanavim> r0xoR: it's a try-before-you-install technique  (:
[10:46] <dodek> where should i report bugs in translation?
[10:46] <zcat[1] > hopefully this means zhipit can now send out disks to twice as many people since they'll only be sending one disk..
[10:46] <dsas> intelikey: Yeah i just realised my mistake :)
[10:47] <gnomefreak> !bug
[10:47] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[10:47] <Wes> @rukuartic: It recognizes my partitions (ie hda1 exists and mounts) I don't understand
[10:47] <eobanb> Booo, do you have airport or airport extreme
[10:47] <Booo> eobanb: airport extreme
[10:47] <r0xoR> xanavim, yeah, but i usually enjoy having a separate "all i want to do is install" variety :)
[10:47] <Wizardling> So if I want maximum performance without flashy pretty GUI overheads, what's the best version of Ubuntu?
[10:47] <dsas> intelikey: if dpkg -l ubuntu-minimal is at version 0.119 you're fully up to date
[10:47] <GaiaX11> Whys is that when i try to install base-config synaptic warn me that will uninstall the whole kde and gnome base system?
[10:47] <xanavim> r0xoR: it takes the same amount of time to load
[10:47] <r0xoR> can i just type "install" at the boot prompt instead then?
[10:47] <kane777> OK... solved... now only one more question: I lost some shortcuts in system->Administration menu. What packages are "responsible" for those icons??
[10:47] <revmouse> I have a Dell Latitude 100L running dapper, and my LCD screen doesn't turn off when I close the lid, but it shuts off after 10 minutes of inactivity. any ideas?
[10:47] <livingdaylight> upgrading to Dapper broke my system?
[10:47] <dsas> Wizardling: the server install, or xubuntu if you want a gui.
[10:47] <livingdaylight> where did K3B go?
[10:47] <xanavim> r0xoR: plus you can rescue and/or install with it, so one less cd to burn
[10:48] <dodek> where should i report bugs in translation?
[10:48] <rukuartic> revmouse: Try http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ Make a page for them, help them bugtest!
[10:48] <r0xoR> hmmm, i guess so
[10:48] <jorgp> sn't https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDRipping a little bit dated, talking about gstreamer-0.8 instead of 0.10
[10:48] <Tzy> Hi, how can you see if you have the latest version of ubuntu installed (6.06) I have dapper beta running, didn't do an update for the past 2 day's and if I want to dist upgrade now there is nothing to upgrade ... :s
[10:48] <eobanb> Booo, try this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142727
[10:48] <GaiaX11> Why is that when i try to install base-config synaptic warn me that will uninstall the whole kde and gnome base system?
[10:48] <livingdaylight> GUYS! common, where did K3B go?
[10:48] <intelikey> dsas hehhe tty2 [root#~]  dpkg -l ubuntu-minimal
[10:48] <intelikey> No packages found matching ubuntu-minimal.
[10:48] <rukuartic> livingdaylight: sudo apt-get install k3b
[10:48] <dsas> intelikey: Stop foiling me :p
[10:48] <willdev> can we go slower?
[10:48] <yoyoyo> rackerz: same thing. nothing.
[10:48] <livingdaylight> upgraded to Dapper and suddenly lost eth0
[10:48] <rukuartic> Tzy: If there's no upgrades, then you're running 6.06 ^^
[10:48] <intelikey> dsas anyother way to tell ?
[10:48] <delire> Tzy: dist-upgrade is for upgrading to a whole other disitribution version. you just want apt-get upgrade
[10:48] <zcat[1] > livingdaylight: upgrading to dapper broke my system too. Backup home (mine was a different partition) and do a clean install.. it's a hassle but I don't expect the path from XP to Vista is going to be better :)
[10:48] <eobanb> Tzy, 6.06 IS the latest version
[10:49] <xanavim> willdev: there's 1,000 people here  (:
[10:49] <livingdaylight> rukuartic; yea, but had k3b in breezy, why did upgrading loose it?
[10:49] <rackerz> yoyoyo: what problems are you having?
[10:49] <dsas> intelikey: I'm just reading out the last packages that were updated
[10:49] <Tzy> strange becouse I dindn't do an update for the past 2 day's :s
[10:49] <Tzy> I was running dapper beta
[10:49] <yoyoyo> rackerz: sry im IRC
[10:49] <delire> livingdaylight: is that the only thing that's 'broken'? if so just reinstall it.
[10:49] <yoyoyo> rackerz: i logged in rron
[10:49] <l> can someone tell me why instead of regular system sounds i am getting a simpe computer beep?
[10:49] <Sgeo> Why is the thing telling me that my system is up-to-date?
[10:49] <livingdaylight> zcat[1]  *sigh
[10:49] <Booo> eobanb: thanks
[10:49] <nnz> ne1 else getting connection failed to us.archives.ubuntu.com?
[10:49] <gnomefreak> Sgeo: maybe because it is?
[10:49] <intelikey> dsas they probably didn't update anything i have installed sense last sunday
[10:49] <rackerz> yoyoyo: Ah ok. have you tried another website for streaming?
[10:49] <Wizardling> how much faster will xubuntu be? That is - what are the GUI CPU overheads in each?
[10:49] <gnomefreak> !us
[10:49] <xanavim> Sgeo: possibly because it doesn't see any more upgrades
[10:49] <ubotu> **NB** The US Archives are having frequent issues, remove the "us" out of your  sources.list by typing >> sudo sed -i 's/us\.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list <<in a terminal (Menu applications accessories terminal)
[10:50] <gnomefreak> nnz: ^^^ run that command
[10:50] <livingdaylight> delire: K3B? yea, i did, but still why?
[10:50] <nnz> kk thnx
[10:50] <delire> livingdaylight: it may have caused a collision of interest with another essential package. just install it again.
[10:50] <zcat[1] > I had a lot of crap on my install, gnome, kde, edubuntu, etc. It neaded a reinstall anyhow :)
[10:50] <TaTonka> that didnt really help,..
[10:50] <dsas> intelikey: there were a few things
[10:50] <eobanb> Wizardling, it's a combination of using less RAM and less CPU, mostly
[10:50] <livingdaylight> having upgraded to Dapper what is it i should do now, that is essential. When i upgraded 39 packages were lost. Should i run automatix?
[10:50] <kane777> OK... solved... now only one more question: I lost some shortcuts in system->Administration menu. What packages are "responsible" for those icons?? I only have device manager, disks, networking, printing, services,shared folder, synaptic, time and date, user groups... I know that there were more of them... can anybody help, please???
[10:50] <GaiaX11> How do i see modules in ubuntu? Since i cannot install base-config?
[10:50] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: no
[10:50] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[10:50] <ubotu> somebody said automatix was unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[10:50] <eobanb> Wizardling, you're welcome to just try installing xubuntu-desktop alongside gnome and seeing which you like better.
[10:50] <dsas> intelikey: pcmcia-cs, ubuntu-* metapackages, scim
[10:50] <Newbify2> Is Seveas here? I can't seem to get his freenx package to work. Do I need to gpg authenticate for it to go or is it down?
[10:51] <rukuartic> GaiaX11: Kernel modules?
[10:51] <l> can someone tell me why instead of regular system sounds i am getting a simpe computer beep?
[10:51] <eobanb> livingdaylight, do NOT use automatix.
[10:51] <intelikey> gnomefreak you don't know an easy way to tell if i am up to officail dapper or still using bata do you ?
[10:51] <nnz> still says failed to download ...
[10:51] <Wizardling> Well, anything's got to run lighter than OSX's Aqua, and even more so Winblows Vista (yuck).
[10:51] <erus`> (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so <- help me :(
[10:51] <gnomefreak> intelikey: yes i do ;)
[10:51] <GaiaX11> rukuartic, yah!
[10:51] <gnomefreak> intelikey: uname -r?
[10:51] <rukuartic> GaiaX11: open up a terminal, "lsmod"
[10:51] <Wizardling> (though I do like Aqua - but not on very old Macs)
[10:51] <grasshopper> gnomefreak; what should i do?   '<
[10:51] <gnomefreak> intelikey: if that is -23 sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:51] <l> can someone tell me why instead of regular system sounds i am getting a simpe computer beep?
[10:52] <zcat[1] > Well I think this machine is done, guess I should halt and pack it in the van.
[10:52] <Ademan> hey does anyone know why I might not be able to shut down my laptop? (dapper)
[10:52] <intelikey> 2.6.15-23-386
[10:52] <eobanb> Wizardling, as i said, you're welcome to try xubuntu-desktop and see if you like it
[10:52] <GaiaX11> rukuartic, I use to do that using base-config in debian.
[10:52] <gnomefreak> grasshopper: first state your problem
[10:52] <moyogo> hi
[10:52] <grasshopper> eobanb; NO? Dapper has put it LOUD and clear in Applications/Systems Tools
[10:52] <intelikey> gnomefreak i did the update and distupgrade returns 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:52] <TaTonka> how can i get alsa
[10:52] <Wizardling> *cracks up @ zcat's signoff*
[10:52] <rukuartic> Ademan: Check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/
[10:52] <mplon> salut a tous, vous les dvellopeurs !!!    trop-bien  UBUNTU bonne continuation
[10:52] <gnomefreak> intelikey: welcome to stable
[10:52] <rukuartic> !dapperbetaupgrade
[10:52] <delire> Wizardling: OSX is incredibly slow isn't it.. a shame.
[10:52] <ubotu> dapperbetaupgrade is, like, If you used the upgrade commands, you're up to date :) Sorry, there's no geewhiz "WELCOME TO 6.06!" Screen. =\
[10:52] <moyogo> anybody knows which qt4 packages has the demo textedit app?
[10:52] <scifi> heeelp, just rebooted after upgrading to dapper and x server failed to start :'(
[10:52] <eobanb> grasshopper, i'm sorry, what is your question?
[10:52] <intelikey> gnomefreak been there for a weak
[10:53] <xanavim> delire: no kidding, esp. with python
[10:53] <nnz> if i have and external cdrom which file should i mount from /dev/ ?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> intelikey: there were a few updates i thin 2 in 3 days
[10:53] <maple> yoyo
[10:53] <grasshopper> gnomefreak; just trying to get my system polished, clean and ready to go. Just upgraded to Dapper. Would anything be missing that got lost in the upgrade i should take care of. i.e codec etc
[10:53] <h3h_timo> has anyone figured out how to fix the problem with davicom etherent adapters???
[10:53] <gnuyen> hey guys, if i'm upgrades a few systems at once
[10:53] <GaiaX11> But when i try to install base-config in ubuntu it says that will uninstall nearly my whole system!
[10:53] <shadow_mil> Where can I add a command that will run before Xserver starts
[10:53] <maple> is it fine to run the x86 cd on my amd64box
[10:53] <GaiaX11> rukuartic, But when i try to install base-config in ubuntu it says that will uninstall nearly my whole system!
[10:53] <rukuartic> scifi: I'm no good at configuring X... But I can help you with a terminal until you get your computer set.
[10:53] <gnuyen> and don't want to waste your bandwidth downloading multiple times
[10:53] <Rennen> so, where is the docs, or wiki to upgrade to full dapper LTS
[10:53] <Ademan> rukuartic: thanks, i'll check it out, i think i checked there before, I ended up trying the pcmcia=force option, but that was to no avail
[10:53] <dmbt> just curios, anyone know when and if the automatic update mechanism is going to be activated?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> grasshopper: i dont think you should have lost anything that runs on dapper
[10:53] <rukuartic> GaiaX11: Eh... I just know how to tell you your modules. =\
[10:53] <gnuyen> is there a way to point apt at another system?
[10:53] <xanavim> intelikey: 2.6.15.23 is the final release version of the kernel
[10:53] <intelikey> gnomefreak i last did the update sunday night  so nothing i have installed has changed sense then.
[10:53] <yoyoyo> rackerz: ok i think i got some progress. i went to another site and it says 'fd://0' totem cannot play this file
[10:53] <grasshopper> eobnab; i should not use automatix? Dapper puts it right in our face
[10:53] <runes> what do you suggest as the best gnome multimedia player?  I am using totem but is there a "better" one?
[10:54] <pandamonium> ok, mozart
[10:54] <gnomefreak> grasshopper: no dont use it
[10:54] <glxblt> could someone help, I can't mount my windows drives through the file browser. "error: device /dev/hdb5 is not removable"
[10:54] <eobanb> grasshopper, i'm not really sure what you're talking about.  automatix is not an official piece of software
[10:54] <simp> amorak runes ;)
[10:54] <rukuartic> runes: oooh don't start a war... :P
[10:54] <pandamonium> i mean bach :p
[10:54] <nnz>  runes vlc
[10:54] <grasshopper> gnomfreak; gstreamer got lost along the way
[10:54] <intelikey> xanavim i had that over a weak ago
[10:54] <Rennen> so, where is the docs, or wiki to upgrade to full dapper LTS
[10:54] <Bizzeh> ok
[10:54] <xanavim> intelikey: yes
[10:54] <xanavim> intelikey: that's correct
[10:54] <rackerz> yoyoyo: have you tried using easyubuntu
[10:54] <grasshopper> eobanb; isn't it? ji see it in Applications/ SystemTools
[10:54] <gnomefreak> grasshopper: has _nothing_ to do with automatix hell _ubuntu_ has nothing to do with it
[10:54] <Bizzeh> what is the actual iso i need to INSTALL 6.06
[10:54] <scifi> rukuartic: i have had to boot into xp, i tried booting into an older ubuntu build from grub menu but it just tried to go into dapper again
[10:54] <runes> does amorak and vlc support multiple audio and video codecs?
[10:54] <eobanb> grasshopper, then it's there because you installed it there yourself
[10:54] <Bizzeh> and not just run the stupid live cd
[10:54] <xanavim> intelikey: final release doesn't mean *everything* changes from a few days ago
[10:54] <delire> Bizzeh: the LiveCD is the install CD
[10:54] <gnomefreak> Bizzeh: alternative or desktop your choice
[10:54] <glxblt> Bizzeh: run the installer from the livecd
[10:54] <rukuartic> scifi: Nooo You're in dapper now. No going back to older ubuntus.
[10:54] <sibblegp> when I use a terminal in KDE now that I've upgraded to dapper, my backspace key when held won't go back more than a single space!
[10:55] <grasshopper> man, seems like automatix is some kind of virus
[10:55] <intelikey> ok.   i guess if i'd install lsb now it will set a lsb_release to say dapper lts  ?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> intelikey: if your not showing updates your up to date
[10:55] <kane777> OK... solved... now only one more question: I lost some shortcuts in system->Administration menu. What packages are "responsible" for those icons?? I only have device manager, disks, networking, printing, services,shared folder, synaptic, time and date, user groups... I know that there were more of them... can anybody help, please???
[10:55] <eobanb> grasshopper, please do not ask about automatix anymore; if you choose to use it you're completely on your own; i recommend reading the forum instead and using synaptic, or if you really have to, easyubuntu
[10:55] <gnomefreak> grasshopper: it is a very fast/sure way to mess up your pb
[10:55] <gnomefreak> c
[10:55] <yoyoyo> rackerz: no i havent but ill give it a try
[10:55] <eobanb> grasshopper, automatix is not a virus
[10:55] <Bizzeh> i got http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-amd64.iso and it is just a live cd
[10:55] <rukuartic> scifi: Um... Ok well do you know how to use a terminal? I can't help you reconfigure xorg, but I can help you on your way
[10:55] <NoUse> kane777 is the ubuntu-desktop package installed?
[10:55] <eobanb> grasshopper, it's just a crappy tool to use
[10:55] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, do you know of a way that i can fix the problem dapper is having with davicom ethernet adapter?
[10:55] <Firebird8> if dapper is realsing as 6.06 what would be the next version?
[10:55] <Bizzeh> why have the live cd, not marked as such
[10:55] <rukuartic> Bizzeh: Didja click the "Install to HD" script on the desktopo?
[10:55] <pandamonium> paulproteus, did you get a chance to see the info yet?
[10:55] <rackerz> yoyoyo: it's probably the best option. it configures everything for you :)
[10:55] <eobanb> Firebird8, the Edgy Eft
[10:55] <manolis> is there any good download manager for ubuntu?
[10:55] <xanavim> Bizzeh: click on the "install" and install it to your hard drive
[10:56] <gnomefreak> Firebird8: 6.10
[10:56] <kane777> NoUse, hmm.. let me see...
[10:56] <paulproteus> pandamonium, No, did you give me a URI to it?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: no i dont
[10:56] <Bizzeh> rukuartic: what desktop?
[10:56] <ciaron> wow sshd isn't installed by default, thats harsh :)
[10:56] <sibblegp> can someone tell me why the keyboard repeat is no longer functioning in Dapper?
[10:56] <scifi> rukuartic: can i startup a cli x-chat if i boot into dapper and use the cli ?
[10:56] <pandamonium> i think i /msg one to you
[10:56] <revmouse> gnomefreak: what determines ubuntu's version numbers?
[10:56] <rukuartic> Bizzeh: Let the livecd boot.
[10:56] <Firebird8> GNAM, i thought it went *.04 *.10 *.04 etc
[10:56] <Bizzeh> i did
[10:56] <eobanb> ciaron, so install it.  not running ssh by default is much more secure.
[10:56] <xanavim> Bizzeh: the desktop, i.e. the pretty picture with file icons on it
[10:56] <Bizzeh> i got to where it wanted to boot
[10:56] <rukuartic> scifi: no, just type "Irssi" into the command prompt
[10:56] <grasshopper> eobanb; i say virus, because it seems to linger like a disease. I don't recall ever using it. The forums were raving about it so i had a look, but i want to be rid of the pest
[10:56] <FunnyHat_Work> revmouse, mmyy
[10:56] <gnomefreak> revmouse: 6 = 2006 06= june
[10:56] <delire> revmouse: month/year
[10:56] <Bizzeh> when it tried to load x
[10:56] <Bizzeh> it didnt
[10:56] <Bizzeh> and died
[10:56] <Bizzeh> tried 4 times
[10:56] <delire> revmouse: actually year:month ;)
[10:56] <paulproteus> pandamonium, I don't think you did.
[10:56] <Bizzeh> it cannot load x
[10:56] <Jinkguns> heya
[10:56] <gnomefreak> its year first month 2nd
[10:57] <willdev101> is drapper friendly to ATI cards?
[10:57] <tbenita> I changes  breezy to hoary in my sources.list and tried to dist-upgrade, now when I try to install gnome it says that it's not going to install
[10:57] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, is there a way to find drivers for the adapter and install them over the ones currently installed?
[10:57] <eobanb> ciaron, you have to understand that most users of ubuntu don't need ssh, and those that do use it should know enough about it to know how to install and set it up themselves.  it's a self-solving problem
[10:57] <rukuartic> Bizzeh: Ouch. Um... Need to go somewhere else for that. But all we send out is LiveCD's. Takes the same ammount of time
[10:57] <Bizzeh> because the "ati" driver doesnt work
[10:57] <xanavim> willdev101: yes, most of them
[10:57] <scifi> rukuartic: what does that do ?
[10:57] <paulproteus> pandamonium, You have to be registered with NickServ for private messages to work.
[10:57] <ivoks> jesus... 1055 people :)
[10:57] <Bizzeh> its the "fglrx" driver i need
[10:57] <xanavim> ,ati
[10:57] <delire> tbenita: why are you downgrading?
[10:57] <revmouse> willdev101: I have an ATI with the fglrx driver, it works great
[10:57] <tbenita> ups : changes sources.list to drapper
[10:57] <xanavim> ubotu: ati
[10:57] <pandamonium> ah, that would explain it
[10:57] <ubotu> I guess ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[10:57] <ciaron> eobanb: true, was just a bit suprised thats all :) it is the server edition after all, but it is more secure yes
[10:57] <Jinkguns> I have a question, I just installed Network Manager but I can't find any type of menu entry to access it.
[10:57] <eobanb> ivoks, what can i say, it's the day of dapper's release.  i'm sure it'll climb even higher in a few hours
[10:57] <rukuartic> scifi: irssi = irc chat ^_^ "/connect irc.freenode.net" and then "/join #ubuntu"
[10:57] <gnomefreak> h3h_timo: check the hardware site see if your network adapter is supported it should give drivers/instructions from there
[10:58] <ivoks> eobanb: :)
[10:58] <nnz> is there any disk checking util for bad blocks?
[10:58] <xanavim> Jinkguns: try man NetworkManager
[10:58] <eobanb> ciaron, just sudo apt-get install ssh
[10:58] <Bizzeh> ok, so, run the live cd
[10:58] <pandamonium> http://www.eggwhisk.co.uk/ubuntu/config.html
[10:58] <delire> tbenita: there's no need to do that. that's the wrong way to do it. do this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[10:58] <ciaron> eobanb: thats the client isn't it?
[10:58] <rukuartic> ciaron: or if you want the daemon, use sshd.
[10:58] <gnomefreak> rukuartic: chat.freenode.net
[10:58] <pandamonium> that would be it
[10:58] <Bizzeh> how do i make it load fglrx?
[10:58] <rukuartic> gnomefreak: I use IRC ;p
[10:58] <ciaron> ah yes
[10:58] <ivoks> so, how do you like dapper?
[10:58] <eobanb> ciaron, as far as i know the ssh metapackage includes both the client and sshd.
[10:58] <l> can someone help me? i just installed proftpd but i cannot get my machine to accept an ftp connection
[10:58] <willdev101> would drapper work on a x300 card?
[10:58] <tbenita> I take a look thx delire
[10:58] <eXistenZ> !ati
[10:58] <ubotu> hmm... ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[10:58] <h3h_timo> gnomefreak, alright thanks
[10:58] <eobanb> willdev, sure, just make sure to install ati's drivers
[10:59] <rukuartic> l: You might be behind a firewall, or your ISP may not let you accept connections, or you may have it configured properly. But I have to go now, just throwing out some ideas.
[10:59] <scifi> rukuartic: ok sweet, i'll brb after reboot :)
[10:59] <dmbt> just curios, anyone know when and if the automatic update mechanism is going to be activated?
[10:59] <pandamonium> hold on... scrub that
[10:59] <willdev101> how do i do that?
[10:59] <pandamonium> just realisd it's a mess
[10:59] <Bizzeh> ok, all i have, is a blank hard drive, and a live cd
[10:59] <paulproteus> pandamonium, Hah, okay.
[10:59] <rukuartic> scifi: No problem ^^ Good luck getting the problem solved
[10:59] <Bizzeh> how do i get fglrx
[10:59] <Bizzeh> so i can get X to run
[10:59] <eobanb> dmbt, if you don't feel like waiting for the automatic update, just invoke it yourself
[10:59] <blehe> Hey will ubuntu resize my windows partition for me?
[10:59] <ciaron> eobanb: yeah its changed in dapper from what i can see, ssh is now a transitional package for openss-{client|server}
[10:59] <eobanb> !tell dmbt about update
[10:59] <Bizzeh> so i can install it to my hdd
[10:59] <willdev101> eobamb@ How do i install them?
[10:59] <l> firestarter&can someon help me? i am getting this error when i try to open an ftp connection to my computer
[10:59] <dmbt> eobanb: no, i'm fine for myself
[10:59] <delire> tbenita: in short, change the sources.list back to breezy, apt-get update and then: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[10:59] <rukuartic> Bizzeh: Try putting your question all in one line, it helps people see your question better
[10:59] <xanavim> Bizzeh: the ati instructions ubotu mentioned show you how
[10:59] <dmbt> its others im woried about
[10:59] <hilltop> I put "/dev/hda4 /media/hda4 vfat rw,users,iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0" in fstab and "sudo mount-a" but the vfat partition won't mount as w/r. Ideas?? Thanks
[11:00] <Jinkguns> So network manager has no graphical front end?
[11:00] <Bizzeh> xanavim: they show me how to do it, in an installed ubuntu
[11:00] <nnz> why does it say err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main sources and etc connection failed [ip:*.*.] 
[11:00] <eobanb> Jinkguns, of course it does
[11:00] <Bizzeh> not on a read only livecd
[11:00] <Booo> looks like my airport extreme drivers works but when it scans for network it return nothing and it comes back to quick
[11:00] <kane777> NoUse, now i'm running into severe dependencies problems libglib2.0-data:
[11:00] <kane777>   Depends: libglib2.0-0 (=2.8.3-0ubuntu1) but 2.8.3-1 is to be installed
[11:00] <tbenita> ok delire ; apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't do it ?
[11:00] <Wes> Can someone help me with the Dapper Drake Partitioner?
[11:00] <eobanb> Wes, what is your specific question?
[11:00] <Ademan> k when you edit # defoptions=quiet splash       line from /boot/grub/menu.lst  what do you have to do to for it to take effect?
[11:00] <oknewbie> Does anyone here know how to block an ip with apache2 perferable with a custom message
[11:01] <Jinkguns> eobanb, well there is no menu entry and the man page dosen't mention it
[11:01] <xanavim> Bizzeh: there's a good chance using fglrx will only give you fast 3d
[11:01] <delire> tbenita: best to use the above command.
[11:01] <Booo> has anyone here gotten airport extreme working?
[11:01] <ipfw> how long will it be before #ubuntu+1 is opened back up ?
[11:01] <xanavim> Bizzeh: it probably won't solve your problem
[11:01] <eobanb> oknewbie, yes, you can do that by adding a directive to your httpd.conf file.  you may want to ask in #apache about that, however
[11:01] <Wes> eobanb: The partitioner is not recognizing my partitions already on the HDD
[11:01] <NoUse> kane777 how did you upgrade?
[11:01] <tbenita> ok delire
[11:01] <Bizzeh> xanavim: there is a better chance that it will give me a gui
[11:01] <Bizzeh> because it always has in the past
[11:01] <Booo> anyone
[11:01] <oknewbie> thanx
[11:01] <grasshopper> eobanb; what happened to my internet connexion
[11:01] <Bizzeh> i have always removed "ati" and replaced with "fglrx" and allowed me a gui
[11:01] <eobanb> grasshopper, ??
[11:01] <ingo> anyone get MOL working properly?
[11:01] <nnz> are repositories working ? could someone tell me pls ??
[11:01] <eobanb> ingo, i assume you're on powerpc?
[11:02] <DBO> nnz, yes, they are working
[11:02] <ingo> eobanb: yes
[11:02] <ciaron> after installation i take it its ok to comment out the cd line in sources.list?
[11:02] <Booo> how bout getting mouse trackpad on powerbook g4 working?
[11:02] <revmouse> ciaron: yes, if you want to grab sources from the internet
[11:02] <revmouse> ciaron: or somewhere else
[11:02] <nnz> DBO archives.ubuntu.com?
[11:02] <eobanb> ingo, just wanted to make sure.  trust me, there are some people out that there that have thought it works on i386 somehow
[11:02] <l> can someone help me? i just installed proftpd and i am getting a connection refused when i try to connect
[11:02] <Bizzeh> why is there no, simple, install cd... to install, not a install from internet livecd
[11:02] <nnz> archive*
[11:02] <eobanb> ingo, if you have a specific problem or error, i can probably help you.
[11:02] <ryanakca> is paste.ubuntu-nl.org down?
[11:02] <ingo> eobanb: yes, a specific problem.
[11:02] <DBO> nnz, just did an update...
[11:02] <xanavim> Bizzeh: to cut down on cds
[11:02] <eobanb> Bizzeh, there is
[11:02] <eobanb> ingo, well let me know what it is and i can help you
[11:03] <scifi> hi rukuartic, i made it :D
[11:03] <Rennen> so, where is the docs, or wiki to upgrade to full dapper LTS
[11:03] <nnz> mine say failed to fetch..
[11:03] <Rennen> so, where is the docs, or wiki to upgrade to full dapper LTS, form breezy
[11:03] <nnz> what could be the prob
[11:03] <xanavim> Bizzeh: there's no command-line tool there to start the install?
[11:03] <NoUse> Rennen see the /topic
[11:03] <DBO> nnz, actually, nope, thats an old one, those appear down
[11:03] <eobanb> !tell Rennen about upgrade
[11:03] <Bizzeh> xanavim: thats why im in here
[11:03] <ingo> eobanb: when i use startmol -x it shows a white screen, no graphics. but i think it's configured correctly because startmol boots OS 9 fine
[11:03] <delire> Rennen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[11:03] <Bizzeh> i know nothing about ubuntu
[11:03] <eXistenZ> Any ATI expert here?
[11:03] <pandamonium> ok, here we are... ready?
[11:03] <Raskall> hmm... why wont postfix start with the initscript after upgrade to dapper? "/usr/sbin/postfix start" works, but "/etc/init.d/postfix start" fails
[11:03] <nnz> DBO r there any new ones ? that work?
[11:03] <eobanb> Bizzeh, do you have a specific question?
[11:03] <Bizzeh> yes
[11:03] <DBO> nnz, where are you located?
[11:03] <Booo> how do i enable root on ubuntu
[11:03] <nnz> estonia
[11:03] <Bizzeh> why is there no, simple, console based installer
[11:03] <nnz> europe
[11:04] <scifi> can neone help me get my x server back up ?
[11:04] <Rennen> eobanb: thanks
[11:04] <xanavim> eobanb: he wants to know how to start install when video detection has failed
[11:04] <mike__> hey i got dapper working
[11:04] <Bizzeh> like always
[11:04] <pandamonium> http://www.eggwhisk.co.uk/ubuntu/config.txt
[11:04] <eobanb> Booo, that's not recommended
[11:04] <Bizzeh> something that just works
[11:04] <mike__> on a dual install!!!
[11:04] <NoUse> !tell Booo about root
[11:04] <DBO> nnz, try the gb repos
[11:04] <mike__> yipp
[11:04] <eobanb> !tell Booo about sudo
[11:04] <Rennen> delire: thanks
[11:04] <nnz> gb.ubuntu.com?
[11:04] <Booo> ok how to su
[11:04] <delire> Rennen: anytime
[11:04] <Rennen> NoUse: thanks
[11:04] <Wes> How can I text install Dapper Drake?
[11:04] <Booo> ok how do i su
[11:04] <mike__> its mikeyyyy from befreo thanks for all your help
[11:04] <nnz> gb.archive.ubuntu.com?
[11:04] <DBO> nnz, yes, the second one
[11:04] <h3h_timo> if i download a driver for an etherent adapter... how do i install it?
[11:04] <nnz> k thnx
[11:04] <NoUse> Wes download the alternate instlal CD
[11:04] <eobanb> Booo, please read the links ubotu sent you
[11:04] <kane777> NoUse, well sudo apt-get update
[11:04] <Wes> NoUse: Where is this elusive CD?
[11:04] <mike__> do firefox exstensions install normaly on ubuntu?
[11:04] <eXistenZ> Can anyone give me the guide for installing the drivers of ATI 9200
[11:04] <eobanb> h3h_timo, you should probably be installing drivers through apt.
[11:05] <delire> mike__: yes
[11:05] <mike__> ok
[11:05] <mike__> thaks
[11:05] <Wes> NoUse: literally the "Alternate"?
[11:05] <Snake007uk> hey guys, can someone help me please,  a m having difficulty forcing my refresh rate to 60hz
[11:05] <eobanb> !tell eXistenZ about ati
[11:05] <scifi> ive just rebooted after upgrading to dapper and my xserver failed, can anyone help ?
[11:05] <Wes> Damn it, why can't the text-install be on the Desktop CD as well?
[11:05] <nnz> still says failed to fetch
[11:05] <eobanb> Snake007uk, what are your current settings, and what graphics card are you using?
[11:05] <eXistenZ> eobanb, That link works for ATI >9200
[11:05] <nnz> wtf damnit
[11:05] <grasshopper> eobanb; i upgraded to Dapper and then it did not detect my eth0. Now i need to open command line everytime i boot up and type ifconfig eth0 up and dhclient to get online
[11:05] <yoyoyo> rackerz:thanks. it works now. as a plus, that easy ubuntu cleaned up firefox's buttons. lloks nice. thanks.
[11:05] <xanavim> Bizzeh: did you see that?
[11:05] <Snake007uk> eobanb i am using nvidia, and its seto 75hz, its iiyama lcd,
[11:05] <rackerz> yoyoyo: no problem ;)
[11:05] <erus`> anyone know on ATI (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7) is happening?
[11:05] <delire> grasshopper: add the settings to the network manager. that will write to /etc/network/interfaces
[11:05] <Snake007uk> i have tried values for horiz sync and vertrefresh
[11:06] <eobanb> Snake007uk, LCDs dont have refresh rates
[11:06] <erus`> im trying to use fglrx
[11:06] <ingo> eobanb: when i use startmol -x it shows a white screen, no graphics. but i think it's configured correctly because startmol boots OS 9 fine
[11:06] <Snake007uk> however, it still wont let it be 60hz in screen resolution.
[11:06] <ProN00b> how do i stop cupsd and hpiod from opening ports, or alternatively, how do i disable them ?
[11:06] <Cerveza> hey, I've got an annying problem, I use a touch pad mouse and every time I touch it, it acts like a click, I can't figure out how to disable this, anyone have any idea?
[11:06] <grasshopper> delire; [great!] tell me how please?
[11:06] <Snake007uk> eobanb yeah i know... but without forcing a setting... it wont let XGL run normal speed :(
[11:06] <eobanb> ingo, i'm not sure what the fix for that would be.  have you tried searching the ubuntu forums?
[11:06] <Bizzeh> right.. ill say it... all i have is. the live cd, a blank hard drive, and a pci-e x700, which doesnt work with the xorg "ati" driver. X doesnt load at all..
[11:06] <xanavim> Cerveza: disable it in your BIOS settings
[11:06] <pandamonium> Snake007uk, do you mean it doesn't allow 1280x1024?
[11:06] <Bizzeh> i NEED fglrx, or a text based installer
[11:06] <grasshopper> where is network manager?
[11:06] <eobanb> Snake007uk, ask in #ubuntu-xgl please
[11:06] <fiete> Anyone know how to handle "[fglrx:firegl_init_module]  *ERROR* firegl_stub_register failed" on modprobe of fglrx?
[11:06] <Symmetria> hrm
[11:06] <xanavim> Bizzeh: you're not reading
[11:06] <Symmetria> any south africans here?
[11:07] <scifi> plleeeasse help :'(
[11:07] <delire> grasshopper: Settings-->Preferences-->Network from memory (sorry in a console here on a server)
[11:07] <xanavim> Bizzeh: download the alternate cd installer
[11:07] <maple> can you run the x86 version on an amd64 box without problems?
[11:07] <Bizzeh> so
[11:07] <delire> maple: yes
[11:07] <l> hi can someone please help me? i just installed proftpd to run from inetd but when i try to connect to my machine i get a connection refused error
[11:07] <Symmetria> I need someone in south africa to run some speed tests to my new ftp server before I start putting loads of stuff on it
[11:07] <h3h_timo> can someone explain how to install drivers?
[11:07] <RandolphCarter> Bizzeh: change the driver to 'radeon'
[11:07] <spikeb> yes maple
[11:07] <grasshopper> delire; ok, and then add those commands?
[11:07] <RandolphCarter> Bizzeh: I know they share code, but that one stands a much better chance of working
[11:07] <Bizzeh> RandolphCarter: on a read only live cd?
[11:07] <maple> delire: ok. so if a x86 version wont boot then a amd64 version probly wont boot either?
[11:07] <sebest> hello, i'm using network-manager but it doesn't set my dns
[11:07] <xanavim> Bizzeh: download the alternate cd installer
[11:07] <pike__> l: check the config file in /etc directory
[11:07] <maple> delire: well it boots, but it wont actually start up
[11:07] <RandolphCarter> Bizzeh: sure, it should be loaded into RAM afaik, check /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:07] <eobanb> Symmetria, that's not an ubuntu-specific question.  i think you'll have better luck asking somewhere else
[11:08] <delire> maple: how far does it get?
[11:08] <Snake007uk> eobanb thanks :)
[11:08] <[zero] > does xchat log things?
[11:08] <kane777> !repositories
[11:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:08] <h3h_timo> !drivers
[11:08] <ubotu> from memory, drivers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto
[11:08] <sebest> in the log it says "DHCP returned name servers but system has disabled dynamic modification"
[11:08] <l> pike__: what should i be looking for?
[11:08] <ProN00b> how can i stop all that printing stuff from opening ports ?
[11:08] <eobanb> [zero] , it can if you set it to
[11:08] <grasshopper> delire; Network Proxy?
[11:08] <kane777> !easysource
[11:08] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:08] <RandolphCarter> Bizzeh: failing that, you could put it somewhere on the RAM disk, and force X to use that config (I know this is a lot of effort, but ATI detection kinda sucks)
[11:08] <Bizzeh> xanavim: so, wasting more money, because ubuntu doesnt lable their iso's properly, and doesnt cater to their users needs
[11:08] <delire> grasshopper: just enter whether you want an automatically generated IP wtih DHCP or whatever. as you would in windows of macintosh OS's.
[11:08] <[zero] > eobanb: so it doesnt auto?
[11:08] <xanavim> Bizzeh: are you trolling in here or what?!?!
[11:08] <scifi> ive just rebooted after upgrading to dapper and my xserver failed, can anyone help ?
[11:08] <nnz> what filesystem cdrom's use? iso9660?
[11:08] <RandolphCarter> yes nnz
[11:09] <delire> grasshopper: not if you don't have one.
[11:09] <pandamonium> Snake007uk, i had some problems with getting 1280x1024 resolution and i found that by opting for 'medium' rather than advanced in the config setup it worked
[11:09] <maple> delire: the progress bar gets all the way accross then i guess it tries to start x but nothing happens. no errors. but i can type into the screen. kinda wierd.
[11:09] <richard> !wlan
[11:09] <xanavim> Bizzeh: how is a cd a waste of money?  they're what, $0.20
[11:09] <Bizzeh> xanavim: no, im trying to figure out why people wont take on that the livecd is read only and you cannot write to it
[11:09] <ubotu> richard: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:09] <richard> !wireles
[11:09] <ubotu> richard: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:09] <grasshopper> delire; i open Network Proxy and i see that automatic is ticked
[11:09] <richard> !wireless
[11:09] <ubotu> I heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[11:09] <maple> delire: i tried the safe video mode too
[11:09] <delire> grasshopper: good, leave it.
[11:09] <ingo> eobanb, yes
[11:09] <pandamonium> dunno if it's any help to you though. my system just does what it wants to anyway
[11:09] <eobanb> Bizzeh, let us know what we can do about that and we'll do it, until then, please stop
[11:09] <xanavim> Bizzeh: you can't write to a burned cd
[11:09] <Hentai_Jeff> xana:some of us are poor :P
[11:09] <delire> maple: can you CTRL-ALT-F2 for me?
[11:09] <meads> Hi
[11:09] <[zero] > Anyone know the line to mount a fat32 hdd?
[11:09] <grasshopper> delire; ok but it doesn't work, that what i'm trying to say
[11:09] <eobanb> welcome, meads.
[11:09] <RandolphCarter> Bizzeh: did you try 'sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf' ?
[11:09] <[zero] > someone pasted it to me before
[11:10] <h3h_timo> RandolphCarter, you were good help before.. how do you install drivers?
[11:10] <meads> Can someone tell me how i can take a screenshot in XFCE, so used to ksnapshot hehe
[11:10] <RandolphCarter> it can't all be read only, that Just Wouldn't Work (TM)
[11:10] <eobanb> [zero] , you can do that through System > Administration > Disks
[11:10] <pandamonium> paulproteus, did you get the link ok?
[11:10] <RandolphCarter> h3h_timo: what's up?
[11:10] <penguinwhoflew> hello
[11:10] <maple> delire: im on f8 when i can type. f2-7 dont do anything. but i can go back to f1 and it shows Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
[11:10] <kermitX_> meads: there's a panel applet that takes screenies.
[11:10] <nnz> how to make apt-get update to work ?
[11:10] <blaze> how to remove something i've compiled make and make installed myslef?
[11:10] <Bizzeh> eobanb: 1. lable livecd's, as livecd's, and keep installer cd's, and lable them as installer cd's. also, keep the text installer as a fallback, for people who have cards that need a driver you dont supply
[11:10] <eobanb> blaze, with rm ..?
[11:10] <grasshopper> delire; actually, "direct internet connection" was ticked
[11:10] <meads> How do i access it KermitX_? it is installed as ynaptic says so :)
[11:10] <NoUse> kane777 did you change your /etc/apt/sources.list and then run apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade?
[11:10] <pizux> is it normal the time to wait during install = looking at the mirors?
[11:10] <blaze> no, from source eobanb
[11:10] <DBO> blaze, did you remember to install it to /opt/ ?
[11:10] <dsas> blaze: if you still have the source directory/makefile do "sudo make uninstall"
[11:11] <h3h_timo> RandolphCarter, im going to install a driver for my davicom ethernet adapter... and i know how to get the drivers.. i just need to know which one to download and which one to install
[11:11] <delire> grasshopper: just play around, you'll get there.
[11:11] <blaze> ok :)
[11:11] <penguinwhoflew> quick question, when booting off the dapper release CD and installing, do i have the option then of formatting a drive?
[11:11] <blaze> dsas, i'll try
[11:11] <Ademan> k when you edit # defoptions=quiet splash       line from /boot/grub/menu.lst  what do you have to do to for it to take effect?
[11:11] <grasshopper> delire; it should be ticked for 'automatic'?
[11:11] <scifi> ive just rebooted after upgrading to dapper and my xserver failed, can anyone help ?
[11:11] <eobanb> Bizzeh, there is in fact a text-mode install disc
[11:11] <delire> maple: hmm..
[11:11] <xanavim> penguinwhoflew: yes
[11:11] <penguinwhoflew> thank you!
[11:11] <h3h_timo> RandolphCarter, http://www.davicom.com.tw/eng/download/Driver/driver_9102a.htm    which one would i use for dapper?
[11:11] <Snake007uk> pandamonium cheers dude. ill check that up
[11:11] <grasshopper> delire; i'm not getting there! are  you delirious?
[11:11] <penguinwhoflew> now i'm off to install linux for the first time
[11:11] <penguinwhoflew> bye
[11:11] <delire> grasshopper: try automatic everything if you have a standard connection to a router where the router gives you an IP
[11:11] <NoUse> Wes the "desktop" CD is a live CD installer,if you want to do a text mode install you need the Alternate install CD
[11:11] <Bizzeh> eobanb: is the text based installer on the cd i have, as a fallback for the gui one, not working
[11:11] <MyNameIsNotBob> anyone here use skype with linux?
[11:11] <eobanb> Bizzeh, the liveCD has a graphical installer, which makes it the preferred way to install ubuntu.  just get try to get used to the paradigm of having a single CD instead of two CDs
[11:11] <scifi> can neone read this ? lol
[11:11] <maple> delire: thats what i was thinking. like i said this is the x86 disc, im contemplating getting the amd64 one but i assume ill have the same issue after having to dload the huge iso
[11:11] <eobanb> MyNameIsNotBob, yes, i have.
[11:11] <DBO> !skype
[11:12] <ubotu> hmm... skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[11:12] <RandolphCarter> h3h_timo: while I figure this out, do 'sudo aptitude install linux-source'
[11:12] <gfxstyler> hey
[11:12] <kermitX_> meads: right click a panel and add. look for the screen shooter. it's in the package xfce4-screenshooter-plugin
[11:12] <gfxstyler> i need some help with fglrx (ati radeon) again :/
[11:12] <eobanb> MyNameIsNotBob, skype is very easy to install on dapper
[11:12] <h3h_timo> RandolphCarter, im not connected to the internet right now.. can i still do it???
[11:12] <grasshopper> delire; what is the autoconfiguration URL it asks for when i have it ticked to 'automatic' please  :D
[11:12] <RandolphCarter> h3h_timo: and the driver you'll need to download is http://www.davicom.com.tw/big5/download/Driver/dm9102a/dmfe_1.43.tar.gz
[11:12] <gfxstyler> (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore"     < in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, what could cause this ?
[11:12] <kermitX_> meads: if you also have gnome desktop installed. you can also look under accessories in the menu for the gnome one, and that works too.
[11:12] <MyNameIsNotBob> eobanb, i have it installed, just a problem is occuring with my sound
[11:12] <eobanb> !tell MyNameIsNotBob about sound
[11:13] <blaze> dsas, 10x, i think it's working.. i'll see in a second for sure :)
[11:13] <sorush20> hi guys
[11:13] <meads> I got it KermitX_, thank you so  much :) i now have a camera icon in my panel :) ill test it now
[11:13] <sorush20> gaybrial
[11:13] <RandolphCarter> h3h_timo: nope :/ you'll need the source/headers on the machine to build that driver (kernel  module)
[11:13] <blaze> dsas, yes :)
[11:13] <scifi> gnomefreak: can u help ?
[11:13] <nnz> whats wrong with repositories ? can soumeone help .. trying to apt-get update says failed :/
[11:13] <sorush20> so its sudo apt-get upgrade then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:13] <MyNameIsNotBob> !sound
[11:13] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[11:13] <blaze> #C++
[11:13] <blaze> ooops
[11:13] <blaze> sry
[11:13] <spire> How do I make subsection numbering appear as 1.1, 1.2, 2.3, etc. instead of just 1, 2 and 3 in openoffice? (Selecting "header 2" just results in the 1, 2, 3 numbering...)
[11:13] <NoUse> nnz what repos are you trying to use?
[11:14] <jorgp> has the dapper cd artwork been released?
[11:14] <pandamonium> nnz, are you getting any can't resolve http errors?
[11:14] <h3h_timo> RandolphCarter, can i do 'sudo aptitude install linux-source' without having an internet connection
[11:14] <scifi> ive just rebooted after upgrading to dapper and my xserver failed, can anyone help ?
[11:14] <grasshopper> GUYS! in NEtwork Proxy, when yyou have 'automatic' ticked it asks for an URL. What Url do i put in there and where do i get it?
[11:14] <eobanb> h3h_timo, if you have an ubuntu CD around, i believe so
[11:14] <munckfish> scifi: when you say it failed what are the symptoms?
[11:14] <RandolphCarter> h3h_timo: no :/ you can download the package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ (click on Dapper) and transfer it via cd-rw/floppy though
[11:14] <nnz> NoUse: im getting connetion failed
[11:14] <nnz> to ip
[11:15] <Jowi> nnz: they are very busy, at least the ones that I use (fr.archive). can take over a minute for me to get a connection when it is usually instantanious.
[11:15] <NoUse> nnz yes but I asked which repo you are pointing to
[11:15] <eobanb> grasshopper, i assume you put in the URL for your proxy.  if you don't use a proxy, then don't put anything there
[11:15] <RandolphCarter> h3h_timo: you'll need a lot more packages from the internet too though, things like build-essential, debhelper and gcc
[11:15] <grasshopper> anyone know what autoconfiguration URL means?
[11:15] <nnz> gb.acrhive.ubuntu.com
[11:15] <nnz> and archive.ubuntu.com
[11:15] <scifi> munckfish: i cant remember the whole log, is there a way to retreive it ?
[11:15] <grasshopper> eobanb; dhcp?
[11:15] <NoUse> spire Format -> Bullets and Numbering
[11:15] <pandamonium> brb
[11:15] <eobanb> grasshopper, ..??
[11:15] <h3h_timo> RandolphCarter, what categroy can i find it in
[11:15] <NoUse> nnz it fails on both of those?
[11:15] <RandolphCarter> h3h_timo: Base
[11:15] <wrtpeeps> hey
[11:15] <nnz> yes
[11:16] <grasshopper> eobanb; how do i know if i use proxy? DHCP used to just do it automatically
[11:16] <Junior_> holy crap
[11:16] <wrtpeeps> how do i set the resolution to 1280x1024. It isnt on the list of available ones
[11:16] <eobanb> grasshopper, i doubt you're using a proxy
[11:16] <wrtpeeps> ?
[11:16] <eobanb> grasshopper, just forget about that
[11:16] <Junior_> somebody help out a windows wheeny?
[11:16] <eobanb> wrtpeeps, what graphics card do you have
[11:16] <eobanb> Junior_, ...??
[11:16] <NoUse> nnz can you reach those URLS from your web browser?
[11:16] <h3h_timo> RandolphCarter, i only found it in "devel"
[11:16] <Jowi> ubotu: tell wrtpeeps about resolution
[11:16] <munckfish> where did it fail in the startup process? If you want the xlog you can find it under /var/log I'm not on Linux at the mo as I think it's Xorg0.log or similar name
[11:16] <majd> hey
[11:16] <wrtpeeps> eobanb: nvidia geforce 6800gs
[11:16] <eobanb> welcome, majd.
[11:16] <grasshopper> eobanb; how do i save configuration so i don't have to use commandlinde to get online everytime i do a fresh bootup
[11:16] <pandamonium> ok
[11:16] <eobanb> !tell wrtpeeps about nvidia
[11:17] <majd> i installed the sun-java5-bin package, yet when i run java -version in the terminal i get: gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[11:17] <wrtpeeps> 1280x1024 is my monitors native res
[11:17] <spire> NoUse: I don't understand. I need the "header 2" style to format its numbering as <section>.<subsection>. How do I do that in Bullets&Numbering?
[11:17] <RandolphCarter> h3h_timo: oops, sorry :/ I don't tend to install this from the site
[11:17] <majd> and when i run java -jar LimeWire.jar i get an AWT error
[11:17] <nnz> NoUse yes , from a windows box
[11:17] <grasshopper> eobanb; what do you recommend i have ticked in Network Proxy so my computer picks up on eth0?
[11:17] <nnz> cant form ubuntu coz its server install
[11:17] <Crane> wrtpeeps, you should also verify the monitor will handle it. Then set the resolutions to match your monitors in the xorg
[11:17] <h3h_timo> RandolphCarter, its alright.. umm do i have to download each package??
[11:17] <eobanb> grasshopper, do you have two network cards or something?
[11:17] <RandolphCarter> h3h_timo: and each packages dependencies :/
[11:17] <grasshopper> no
[11:17] <nnz> but they do ping from ubuntu
[11:18] <scifi> munckfish: it seemed ubuntu had finished booting, all the drivers loaded etc, then just at the point where the splash screen wud appear thats when it failed
[11:18] <eobanb> grasshopper, all you should have to do is enable eth0, with dhcp, don't enable anything else, and it should work
[11:18] <grasshopper> eobanb; no, why?
[11:18] <Junior_> can one of you guys tell me how to install a program in ubuntu?
[11:18] <munckfish> scifi: I recognise that then - that happens to me on my laptop
[11:18] <eobanb> !tell Junior_ about apt
[11:18] <grasshopper> eobanb; how do i enable eth0 with dhcp?
[11:18] <gnomefreak> Junior_: what program
[11:18] <NoUse> nnz no from your ubuntu box
[11:18] <eobanb> !tell Junior_ about synaptic
[11:18] <hopsing> hello, does the Dapper server edition install phpMyAdmin as part of LAMP?
[11:18] <scifi> cd /var
[11:18] <sorush20> Junior_: what program?
[11:18] <Crane> Junior_, what program
[11:18] <Junior_> folding at home and wine
[11:18] <Crane> lol
[11:18] <munckfish> scifi: what graphics card do you have?
[11:18] <wrtpeeps> Crane: yea, its my monitors native res
[11:18] <h3h_timo> RandolphCarter, alright i downloaded this http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-meta%2Flinux-source_2.6.15.22_all.deb&md5sum=553b714a01d103daa3ce8ee4bff6c748&arch=all&type=main
[11:18] <Junior_> sorry I'm a total noob to linux
[11:18] <Grunt> are there any instructions for installing ruby on the rails in dapper?
[11:18] <grasshopper> eobanb; dhcp used to do it for me autojmatically in breezy, but since upgrading to dapper it doesnt
[11:19] <eobanb> Junior_, folding is on the folding website, just download it and run the script to install it, just follow the instructions on folding's site.  wine is in the repository as usual
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Junior_ -about wine
[11:19] <nnz> NoUse how can i check from command line ? they do ping .. should i wget ?
[11:19] <pandamonium> is knode available in any of the repositories?
[11:19] <azurehuesofblue> how do you run a pl file?
[11:19] <scifi> munckfish: Geforece 4 ti4400, bare in mind that the nv option i used in previous xserver config worked fine for breezy
[11:19] <gnomefreak> Junior_: your pm will tell you about wine as for the other one never heard of it
[11:19] <popey> azurehuesofblue: perl file.pl
[11:19] <grasshopper> eobanb; i have to go to commandline and ifconfig eth0 up and then dhclient to get online
[11:19] <NoUse> nnz you don't have gnome running?
[11:19] <eobanb> azurehuesofblue, that's a perl script.  # perl /path/to/file.pl
[11:19] <revmouse> Is there any way to remove all the software that was installed with kubuntu-desktop? I really prefer ubuntu-desktop
[11:19] <Junior_> ok cool, I'll read thru the PM and if I have any more questions I'll get back to you, thanks guys
[11:19] <azurehuesofblue> ok so just type perl first?
[11:19] <nnz> no
[11:20] <eobanb> yes, azurehuesofblue
[11:20] <RandolphCarter> h3h_timo: I've just looked at the code for that module, and it seems you'll only need the linux kernel-headers (they're in a much smaller package)
[11:20] <pgquiles> does Dapper include XGL?
[11:20] <azurehuesofblue> thanks
[11:20] <eobanb> pgquiles, not by default
[11:20] <Tom__> hi all, need make and g++ in DapperDrake, what packages do I neet, i'm new to ubuntu
[11:20] <scifi> munckfish: ive never used this irssi before, so dont know how to "minimize" it and search for log in cli
[11:20] <nnz> i just wgeted archive.ubuntu.com/.../source/Sources.gz , but apt cant get jack..
[11:20] <ProN00b> can i somehow disable cupsys and hplip, or do i have to resort to /etc/init.d/ haxxoring ?
[11:20] <grasshopper> eobanb; please help me
[11:20] <h3h_timo> RandolphCarter, so what exactly do i download then?
[11:20] <nnz> what wrong
[11:20] <eobanb> pgquiles, for questions about xgl, ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:20] <revmouse> Tom__: try installing build-essentials
[11:20] <eobanb> grasshopper, i'm not sure how to fix your problem.
[11:20] <luis_> will truetype fonts work if I put them inside a '.fonts' folder inside the home directory?
[11:20] <h3h_timo> RandolphCarter, this ?? http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/linux-kernel-headers
[11:20] <Tom__> thanks revmouse
[11:20] <dunnix> hello everyone
[11:20] <eobanb> grasshopper, you might try asking tomorrow when it will (hopefully) be less crazy here.
[11:20] <grasshopper> eobanb;   :|
[11:20] <nickm__> are there any ubuntu podcasts?
[11:20] <crimsun> linux-kernel-headers is for glibc, which is /not/ what you want.
[11:21] <munckfish> scifi: ok in that case I'm not sure how to help cause I have an ATI card had to do this, http://munckfish.net/blog/archive/2006/02/07/ubuntu-on-acer-aspire-9500/, to fix it for breezy seems I have to do the same for dapper. Need someone with your card to relate their experiences.
[11:21] <RandolphCarter> h3h_timo: yes, that, for i386.  you'll need gcc and 'make' too
[11:21] <ryanakca> is paste.ubuntu-nl.org down?
[11:21] <popey> grasshopper: have you looked at the settings in System --> Admin --> Networking ?
[11:21] <grasshopper> eobanb; hahaha...you think it'll have cooled down by then?
[11:21] <nickm__> ryanakca: i think so
[11:21] <h3h_timo> RandolphCarter, alright let me find them
[11:21] <Crane> wrtpeeps, check and compare you vert and horz freg settings in xorg.conf
[11:21] <pgquiles> eobanb thanks
[11:21] <munckfish> scifi: have you checked your X log?
[11:21] <Crane> make sure they match your monitors soecs
[11:21] <NoUse> nnz just run 'wget <URL>'
[11:21] <Crane> specs
[11:21] <neutrinomass> ryanakca: Yeah, so it seems.
[11:21] <rata> hi
[11:21] <nnz> why apt-get says cant connect to archive.ubuntu.com ? even if i can ping and wget from it?
[11:21] <scifi> munckfish: i dont know how to get out of this irssi to check it
[11:21] <lazzarello> would it be possible to use debootstrap from dapper to install debian on a CF card?
[11:21] <h3h_timo> RandolphCarter, and i need each of their dependencies too??
[11:22] <nnz> NoUse just did and i could get sources.gz
[11:22] <popey> nnz: might be better to use a geographically closer source?
[11:22] <NoUse> nnz do you run through a proxy?
[11:22] <grasshopper> popey; nice! no i hadn't. I was told to look in Network Proxy
[11:22] <nnz> NoUse nope
[11:22] <RandolphCarter> h3h_timo: yes, gcc only depends on cpp and gcc-4.0
[11:22] <scifi> munckfish: im using this cli chat because obviously i have no xserver :P
[11:22] <nickm__> no one knows any ubuntu podcasts?
[11:22] <munckfish> scifi: when the screen goes blank Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get into the first pseudo terminal, then you can login and find the log from the command line
[11:22] <screamz> how can I reconfigure my sound ? it s not working anymore after the upgrade
[11:22] <grasshopper> popey; but this is different. Do you know how to configure this? IP address etc
[11:22] <nnz> popey what would u recomend for europe?
[11:22] <luis_> will truetype fonts work if I put them inside a '.fonts' folder inside the home directory?
[11:22] <scifi> munckfish: ty will try
[11:22] <rata> I am triying to change locales to a server using dapper, but dpkg-reconfigure doesn't do the trick, what could be happening ?
[11:22] <Jimmey__> How can I put files into a smb:// directory through the command line?
[11:23] <h3h_timo> do cpp and gcc-4.0 depend on anything?
[11:23] <eobanb> h3h_timo, basically everything you'll need is going to be in ubuntu's repositories.
[11:23] <RandolphCarter> h3h_timo: hmm, and they depend on a lot of other stuff :/ I think this would be a compelling argument for including at least build-essential on the install cd
[11:23] <belkin> hi all
[11:23] <popey> grasshopper: set it to dhcp, and make sure the interface is "active"
[11:23] <belkin> from here do i get the net install cd ?
[11:23] <rata> sorry, dpkg-reconfigure locales :)
[11:23] <belkin> i couldnt find it anywhere
[11:23] <popey> belkin: there isn't a net install cd
[11:23] <revmouse> nickm__: http://ubuntuos.com/podcast/
[11:23] <screamz> aplay: device_list:221: no soundcards found...
[11:23] <RandolphCarter> eobanb: the problem is we're downloading these to build a kernel module for his network card ;)
[11:23] <eobanb> h3h_timo, with apt you don't have to worry about manually resolving dependencies, just sudo apt-get build-essential and that will install gcc and everything else you need for you
[11:23] <nickm__> thanks revmouse
[11:23] <Blissex> luis_: depends on which font system you want to make them available under. For FontConfig that is good if you run 'fc-cache' after
[11:23] <RandolphCarter> eobanb: and in this case, unfortunately, we do
[11:23] <pandamonium> rata, is it locales or locale?
[11:23] <Xenguy> Hi - I have successfully upgraded from Breezy->Dapper.  The only glitch is that whereas before a Gnome desktop was loaded, now an XFCE4 desktop is loaded.  Can any one tell me why this may have happened, and is there a simple fix?
[11:24] <scifi> munckfish: ctrl+alt+f1 dont seem to be doing nething for me :P
[11:24] <rata> pandamonium, tha package is locales
[11:24] <gnomefreak> Xenguy: did you have xfce to begin with?
[11:24] <eobanb> Xenguy, did you install xubuntu-desktop?
[11:24] <luis_> Blissex, well I want them to be available to my current user, they are windows xp's truetype
[11:24] <xanavim> Xenguy: yes, there's a simple fix
[11:24] <Jimmey__> Xenguy, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get --purge remove xubuntu-desktop
[11:24] <ryanakca> Seveas: You're in charge of ubuntu-nl.org ?
[11:24] <belkin> popey really ? so there is no way i can download only 100 mb to boot and install ubuntu from there ?
[11:24] <SurfnKid> amonia?
[11:24] <popey> Xenguy: at the logon screen click "options --> session" and choose gnome
[11:24] <gnomefreak> Xenguy: just change defaul in sessions on the login screen
[11:24] <_libra_> Hi, do u know about any wireless presenter ubuntu-compatible? pls
[11:24] <h3h_timo> RandolphCarter, so what should i do?
[11:24] <Xenguy> gnomefreak: Yes, but I had GNOME configured as default desktop.
[11:24] <Tom__> @revmouse: do u know how the build-essential-Package named in a german installation?
[11:24] <popey> belkin: correct
[11:24] <pandamonium> rata, ok... it's just that i tried both and i can't remember which one worked for me
[11:24] <Seveas> ryanakca, yes and I know it's doen
[11:24] <screamz> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device <= can someone direct me to some troubleshooting?
[11:24] <Seveas> down*
[11:24] <munckfish> scifi: hmmm maybe it's something more serious then. Usually I can get into pseudo term if X isn't conf'd quite right
[11:24] <xanavim> Xenguy: it's easy to switch it back
[11:25] <rata> pandamonium, with dapper ?
[11:25] <eobanb> belkin, if you have limited bandwidth, you can get a CD shipped to you for free
[11:25] <grasshopper> popey; ok, set it to dhcp. HOw do i make sure the interface is active?
[11:25] <eobanb> !tell belkin about shipit
[11:25] <revmouse> Tom__: I would assume it would still be build-essentials
[11:25] <RandolphCarter> h3h_timo: pm
[11:25] <pandamonium> rata, in general
[11:25] <popey> grasshopper: on the previous screen there is an "activate" button :)
[11:25] <gnomefreak> hold on Seveas i got one for use until your is up
[11:25] <nnz> am i alone getting this strange apt problems?
[11:25] <ryanakca> Seveas: kk.... who was it again who is in charge of web board? I want to change pastebin servers... I just don't know how to in kde
[11:25] <rata> pandamonium, in general work, but no with dapper :)
[11:25] <eobanb> revmouse, the package name is build-essential, not build-essentials
[11:25] <belkin> eobanb no thanks  ;)
[11:25] <Murrlin> good afternoon all
[11:25] <munckfish> scifi: only time I've not been able to get into a term was when I had the vert/horiz refresh rate wrong
[11:25] <Xenguy> brb
[11:25] <SurfnKid> gday Murrlin
[11:25] <revmouse> eobanb: oops
[11:25] <pandamonium> rata, sorry mate, don't know about dapper
[11:25] <Heartsbane> What no more #ubuntu+1 with the 6.06 release? http://www.ubuntu.com/news/606released?
[11:25] <curuptura> good day commander
[11:25] <grampajoe> Is installing the nvidia drivers in dapper different from breezy?
[11:25] <xanavim> nnz: no, there are lots of apt problems which can be resolved easily
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: right click the panel icon
[11:25] <rata> pandamonium, lot of thanks anyway :)
[11:26] <popey> Heartsbane: it will come when edgy opens
[11:26] <Tom__> didn't find it, maybe I should use aptitude?
[11:26] <eobanb> Heartsbane, 6.06 is the current version as of today.  ubuntu+1 is now for edgy eft
[11:26] <scifi> munckfish: i just tried ctrl+alt+f2 and get into terminal :)
[11:26] <nnz> xanavim easily ? please say how
[11:26] <Murrlin> hehe no thanks, water'll do
[11:26] <munckfish> scifi: ah great! well done
[11:26] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: I'm in kde... of course... I should be asking in #kubuntu, but nobody there uses it...
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Seveas: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.com/
[11:26] <grasshopper> popey; yea, saw that, but it doesn't highlight and doesn't respond  to clickin on ?
[11:26] <Tom__> @revmouse: didn't find it, maybe I should use aptitude?
[11:26] <xanavim> nnz: what kind of problem is it?
[11:26] <popey> grasshopper: is the interface already active? did you highlight the interface on the left first?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: last i tried webboard didnt work from menu you had to make icon for it
[11:26] <azurehuesofblue> I'm trying to install vmware player on my machine and it wont find the make program on my machine, where would that be?
[11:26] <pandamonium> i need another beer. can i configure ubuntu to go to the fridge for me? :p
[11:27] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: webboard-applet doesnt work in kde.... you run it threw alt-f2, webboard...
[11:27] <eobanb> pandamonium, serious questions only please.
[11:27] <nnz> xanavim cant update to archive. or gs.archive  says connection failed
[11:27] <SurfnKid> pandamonium, thats in the works i think
[11:27] <dsas> azurehuesofblue: you need to install build-essential
[11:27] <Jimmey__> azurehuesofblue, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:27] <popey> azurehuesofblue: i think you need the build-essential and make packages
[11:27] <SurfnKid> :P
[11:27] <eobanb> azurehuesofblue, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:27] <intelikey> quick Q  how to "un-register" from launchpad ?
[11:27] <nnz> even if i can wget form that location
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: that i would check ~/.webboard
[11:27] <xanavim> nnz: can you ping the servers that you put in your repos?
[11:27] <dsas> azurehuesofblue: You should be able to install it from within ubuntu rather than compiling yourself.
[11:27] <pandamonium> eobanb, sorry, was just having a lighthearted banter
[11:27] <dhonn> anyone know what server kernel is optimzed for K8 arch?
[11:27] <nnz> xanavim yes , i can wget files from them
[11:27] <grampajoe> Is there anything different about installing Nvidia drivers in dapper?
[11:28] <scifi> munckfish: what command line program can i use to open the log file ?
[11:28] <nnz> but apt-get update doesnt work
[11:28] <grasshopper> popey: dunno, gonna go and try it.  :o
[11:28] <eobanb> grampajoe, 'different'?
[11:28] <azurehuesofblue> Thanks all.
[11:28] <xanavim> nnz: try removing some of the repos one by one until it works, then put them back in again one by one until you find the problem one
[11:28] <intelikey> <nnz sudo
[11:28] <rata> pandamonium, btw, i found it. In dapper there is an other package called localeconf fot doing that :)
[11:28] <popey> dhonn: linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7
[11:28] <dhonn> thats k7
[11:28] <pandamonium> rata, :)
[11:28] <revmouse> Tom__: try build-essential    sorry for the misinformation
[11:28] <eobanb> !info linux-image
[11:28] <xanavim> nnz: you can also try different mirrors
[11:28] <munckfish> scifi: easiest is 'less'. so type 'less <logfilename>'
[11:28] <popey> dhonn: and above
[11:28] <eobanb> weh.
[11:28] <nnz> intelikey im under root so no need for sudo
[11:28] <grampajoe> eobanb, I tried installing nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings like the ubuntu website says, but it won't let me install them both, just one or the other
[11:29] <dhonn> but k8 exists in apt
[11:29] <scifi> munckfish: ty
[11:29] <intelikey> nnz   apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:29] <eobanb> grampajoe, what error message are you getting
[11:29] <popey> dhonn: where?
[11:29] <VonGuard> so then
[11:29] <popey> dhonn: I don't see it here
[11:29] <crimsun> dhonn: for server specifically, linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-server
[11:29] <dhonn> linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-k8
[11:29] <grampajoe> eobanb, It's not an error message, it just tells me I have to remove nvidia-glx if I want to install nvidia-settings
[11:29] <popey> dhonn: ahh, you have amd64?
[11:29] <pandamonium> at least my printer works
[11:29] <dhonn> linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-server-k8 though doesnt exist
[11:29] <munckfish> scifi: np. sorry I have to quit now. hope you get on alright. bye!
[11:30] <xanavim> dhonn: I thought it as k6 or k7
[11:30] <nnz> apt always says connection failed
[11:30] <xanavim> *was*
[11:30] <Sudo> pandamonium, what kind HP?
[11:30] <nnz> wtf damn it
[11:30] <crimsun> dhonn: use the package I just named.
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ok i have pastebin up untel pastebin.nl is back
[11:30] <pandamonium> Sudo, epson rx420
[11:30] <dhonn> the server kernel?
[11:30] <Sudo> eww how was the setup
[11:30] <gnomefreak> untill*
[11:30] <xanavim> nnz: try changing your mirrors
[11:30] <crimsun> dhonn: you asked for a server specifically, so yes
[11:30] <nnz> xanavim to which?
[11:30] <pandamonium> ubuntu is the first distro that didn't require extensive tweaking
[11:30] <grasshopper> hi
[11:30] <xanavim> ubotu: tell nnz about mirrors
[11:30] <dhonn> but amd64 optimized for xeons or amds
[11:30] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.ca/60782
[11:30] <dhonn> ?
[11:30] <Sudo> thats right, it rocks
[11:31] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[11:31] <popey> dhonn: what do you think given the name!? :)
[11:31] <grasshopper> popey: its worked! you rock! Thx mate
[11:31] <gnomefreak> ohg crap
[11:31] <nnz> ty
[11:31] <saj> how difrent is the RC from the final release? i accidently downloaded from the UK server and its the RC that i got?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> !+pastebin
[11:31] <popey> grasshopper: \o/
[11:31] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .Pastebin.nl is down right now please use http://gnomefreak.pastebin.com/ until pastebin.nl is back up
[11:31] <screamz> http://pastebin.com/752228 <= alsadebugscript need some directions on how to solve this
[11:31] <crimsun> dhonn: which one do you want, linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-server or linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-xeon?
[11:31] <dhonn> apt-cache show linux-image shows lots of kernels, k8 and even xeons specifillcally but server is simply standalone
[11:31] <Tom__> @revmouse: I found it, must use die more settings dialogue, thx for your help
[11:31] <C_REATiVE_> re
[11:31] <saj> !dapper
[11:31] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[11:31] <dhonn> linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-xeon is a desktop kernel though
[11:31] <revmouse> Tom__: glad I could help
[11:31] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: .... and... what do I do?
[11:32] <jhenn> how do i enable aiglx in X/metacity?
[11:32] <eobanb> saj, just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it will upgrade to the final version
[11:32] <crimsun> dhonn: no it's not.
[11:32] <dhonn> linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-k8 is also a desktop kernel
[11:32] <rata> pandamonium, but i think i found it a bug
[11:32] <scifi> munckfish: "couldnt open module "nvidia" and direory font/cyrillis does not exist are some of several errors
[11:32] <SurfnKid> hehe
[11:32] <nnz> this "dapper main restricted" should always be after url ?
[11:32] <SurfnKid> I got off that name its someone else, dont want them to be POd
[11:33] <crimsun> dhonn: err, yes, both are
[11:33] <nnz> still says connection failed
[11:33] <crimsun> dhonn: are you looking for server kernels specifically?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: thats  agood question look for it in nautilus
[11:33] <xanavim> nnz: did you sudo apt-get update?
[11:33] <scifi> munckfish: its currently set to "generic" driver, so maybe try changing that to "nv" ?
[11:33] <crimsun> dhonn: then use linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-server
[11:33] <dhonn> server kernel optimized for k8
[11:33] <nnz> yes im doing it right now
[11:33] <pandamonium> i see, dapper is a nuance of the ubuntu flavour of linux?
[11:33] <nnz> cant even connect to my local servers
[11:33] <eobanb> pandamonium, dapper is the latest, and current, version of ubuntu.
[11:33] <scifi> munckfish: is there someway i can paste the log to pastebin via irssi ?
[11:34] <Dgurion> how do can I make ubuntu show cyrillic fonts?
[11:34] <MiniJames> released today
[11:34] <SurfnKid> Good evening Griver
[11:34] <HymnToLife> And Ubuntu is a distribution of GNU/linux
[11:34] <dhonn> i guess ill use that then
[11:34] <SurfnKid> Sweden?
[11:34] <crimsun> eobanb: n/, and current, //
[11:34] <MiniJames> anyone able to help me with a 1940 pda
[11:34] <MiniJames> ?
[11:34] <eobanb> crimsun, ..?
[11:34] <MiniJames> getting an interesting error message
[11:34] <eobanb> MiniJames, what's a 1940
[11:34] <crimsun> eobanb: we have multiple "current" flavours: Hoary, Breezy, and Dapper are all curren.
[11:34] <anthony> !w32
[11:34] <ubotu> anthony: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:34] <crimsun> current^
[11:34] <dhonn> linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-server-k8  or linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-server-xeon doesnt exists  yet hehe
[11:34] <pandamonium> ah, thanks for that eobanb - i kept seeing it mentioned so i googled and just thought it was a flavour
[11:34] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: nothing comes up in konqueror
[11:34] <anthony> !w32codecs
[11:34] <ubotu> a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular non-free formats. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for 64-bit systems see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[11:34] <saj> eoband: thnx mate, downloading final now...might need it for future...
[11:35] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: can you pastebin your copy?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: under show hidden files no .webboard?
[11:35] <xanavim> nnz: are you able to curl the files you need?
[11:35] <crimsun> dhonn: I'm pretty darned sure it exists. http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-server
[11:35] <logan_> hi, i'm having some trouble installing dapper onto a sata drive: after installation it doesn't boot (not even grub comes up) -can anyone help?
[11:35] <anthony> Question: Which video player have a better support for embedded Windows Media files and QuickTime files?
[11:35] <eobanb> crimsun, i dont think i would say that hoary is a 'current' version of ubuntu.
[11:35] <nnz> xanavim is there any difference between curl n wget?
[11:35] <xanavim> anthony: xine is a good one
[11:35] <SurfnKid> good question anthony im looking for that too
[11:35] <VonGuard> oooook, here we goooooooooooo!
[11:35] <xanavim> nnz: not sure
[11:36] <VonGuard> suck suck suck
[11:36] <crimsun> eobanb: as part of the development team that looks after its support, I would say it is.
[11:36] <nnz> i dont have curl
[11:36] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: no file named that
[11:36] <nnz> but i can wget
[11:36] <nnz> from those location
[11:36] <nnz> s
[11:36] <SurfnKid> no curl here either
[11:36] <JonnyBoy> x-server is messed up and i can't load up gnome after i upgraded
[11:36] <gnomefreak> VonGuard: stop spamming
[11:36] <Fast> what's the best way of getting amarok 1.4 with apt-get?
[11:36] <eobanb> crimsun, i thought hoary support was discontinued in march
[11:36] <MiniJames> hey freak ;)
[11:36] <cluehammer> mplayer!
[11:36] <dsas> eobanb: that was warty
[11:36] <xanavim> nnz: hmmm... sounds like you still have some configuration of the repos to do
[11:36] <VonGuard> spamming what?
[11:36] <eobanb> dsas, oh, sorry, that's right.
[11:36] <NoUse> !tell Fast about amarok
[11:36] <scifi> JonnyBoy: i have the same problem
[11:36] <nnz> it has 2 line
[11:36] <dhonn> linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-server-k8 and linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-server-xeon doesnt exists
[11:36] <VonGuard> two posts in chan do not a spam make
[11:36] <JonnyBoy> Can someone help me out with this thread?
[11:36] <cluehammer> i don't like spam!
[11:37] <gnomefreak> VonGuard: it does when they say what you said
[11:37] <dhonn> but the desktop optimized version do
[11:37] <JonnyBoy> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186125
[11:37] <nnz> deb http://pathtorepository dapper main restricted n the same for deb-src
[11:37] <crimsun> dhonn: did you read the url I just posted?
[11:37] <VonGuard> just narating my sucking down of dapper
[11:37] <scifi> munckfish: i hope u havent replied, cus i probly missed it
[11:37] <xanavim> VonGuard: there's no sucking allowed at this release *party*!!
[11:37] <JonnyBoy> I have tried "sudo dpkg -reconfigure x-server-xorg"
[11:37] <gnomefreak> VonGuard: we dont need naration
[11:37] <JonnyBoy> but that doesnt work
[11:37] <VonGuard> what about sucking down bits
[11:37] <cluehammer> party is over
[11:37] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: no, none :S
[11:37] <MENDIGO> i need help, when I run a VCD on Mplayer, the screen is too small, and when i click on "double size" or "full screen" it doesn't change at all, the only thing that happens is that the windows gets bigger, a black space around the litlle screen
[11:37] <JonnyBoy> -votekick VonGuard
[11:37] <delire> cluehammer: what's wrong with spam!? kids these days i don't know..
[11:37] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: i dont either
[11:37] <VonGuard> jesus christ
[11:37] <gnomefreak> JonnyBoy: stop
[11:37] <eobanb> JonnyBoy, the command is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:38] <ryanakca> odd
[11:38] <logan_> exit
[11:38] <JonnyBoy> ok, let me try that - brb
[11:38] <dhonn> actually linux-image-2.6.15-23-amd64-server is for both "intel and amd"
[11:38] <Raozine> umm.. how do I enable russian(cyrillic) characters to show fine in rhythmbox and in the file manager?
[11:38] <crimsun> dhonn: by design, yes
[11:38] <anthony> !ati
[11:38] <tubbie> !grub
[11:38] <ubotu> ati is probably http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[11:38] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:38] <SurfnKid> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg got my ATI card going really fast tubbie
[11:38] <gnomefreak> crimsun: the files for md5s on a cd are in the md5sum.txt?
[11:38] <SurfnKid> tubbie having ATI probs? what card?
[11:38] <cluehammer> spam is terrible,i lived off it for four years
[11:39] <tubbie> ???
[11:39] <dhonn> but on the desktop side its differenet?
[11:39] <cluehammer> ate the emails right out of mutt!
[11:39] <SurfnKid> tubbie sorry
[11:39] <eobanb> cluehammer, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:39] <crimsun> gnomefreak: yes
[11:39] <SurfnKid> anthony what model ATI is it
[11:39] <leboff> anyone have suggestions for dvd authoring?
[11:39] <delire> cluehammer: that poor dog..
[11:39] <nbx909> how do i get a mouse to work
[11:39] <nbx909> lol
[11:39] <gnomefreak> should they be same as iso?
[11:39] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:39] <nbx909> this is on a friends computer
[11:39] <delire> leboff: DVDauthor
[11:39] <meads> Whats the best app to record the output of my soundcard. I want to record from Line In and Wave
[11:39] <eobanb> nbx909, what sort of mouse
[11:39] <nbx909> it's a usb mouse and for some reason he can't get it to work
[11:39] <JonnyBoy> eobanb: i tried that, but it said that x-server-xorg is not installed
[11:39] <nbx909> eobanb, seems like something that should work
[11:40] <delire> meads: use audacity
[11:40] <Blissex> luis_: you can use your XP fonts more or less on that way but to do it properly is hard work.
[11:40] <leboff> delire: i'm lookin for something gui
[11:40] <nbx909> usb logitec
[11:40] <meads> Thank Delire
[11:40] <nnz> could someone please give me an url to openssh-server.deb or whatever to install an sshd coz i'we been doin it for 2 hours now or so , and done nothing , and apt scks
[11:40] <eobanb> JonnyBoy, that's because the package is xserver-xorg, not x-server-xorg
[11:40] <jacob_> hey
[11:40] <gnomefreak> iso and server md5s match the cd md5.txt doesnt show mine
[11:40] <Raozine> umm.. how do I enable russian(cyrillic) characters to show up in rhythmbox and in the file manager?
[11:40] <eobanb> JonnyBoy, you must type the EXACT command for it to work
[11:40] <crimsun> dhonn: yes, they are different, ala ia32's 386 vs 686
[11:40] <glxblt> um.. my windows drives' owner is root, so I can't touch them with my user
[11:40] <octan> howdy all
[11:40] <nbx909> nnz, sudo apt-get install ssh
[11:40] <octan> how do i renice and app?
[11:40] <eobanb> nbx909, have you tried any other mice?
[11:40] <grampajoe> How do I install the nvidia drivers in dapper?
[11:40] <nnz> APT doesnt f work
[11:40] <scifi> eobanb: i tried ur command but also says xserver not installed
[11:40] <leboff> is there anything that will work like nero-vision?
[11:40] <penguinwhoflew> ummm... what if after installing ubuntu the only thing that comes up is 'error loading operating system'?
[11:41] <pandamonium> i've noticed some of the docs in the wiki could do with a bit of cleaning up re: grammar etc. i reckon i could do a job there. how would i get started?
[11:41] <paniq> snusnubuntu
[11:41] <nbx909> eobanb, no i guess that would be a good idea lol
[11:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell grampajoe about nvidia
[11:41] <dsas> pandamonium: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam
[11:41] <nbx909> eobanb, but he will want to use this mouse evetually
[11:41] <davmor2> has anyone got bonfire to install on x86-64 bit yet?  If so how please.
[11:41] <delire> leboff: right, i'm not too up-to-date with that area. you could try kmediafactory
[11:41] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: you need to edit it in gconf-editor
[11:41] <paniq> ubuntusnu?
[11:41] <gnomefreak> brb gonna test
[11:41] <dsas> pandamonium: The Doc Team look after the wiki and the system help
[11:41] <leboff> delire: thanks.. ill look into it
[11:41] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: oh ok
[11:41] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:41] <eobanb> nbx909, that's fine, but just see if other USB or PS/2 mice work first
[11:41] <octan> do anyone know how i do renice a app?
[11:41] <JonnyBoy> how do i know which video card driver i supposed to select?
[11:41] <SurfnKid> !nvidia
[11:41] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:41] <eobanb> nbx909, do other USB peripherals work?
[11:41] <pandamonium> cheers
[11:42] <paniq> !easyubuntu
[11:42] <scifi> ive just rebooted after upgrading to dapper and my xserver failed, can anyone help ?
[11:42] <nbx909> eobanb, no idea let me see
[11:42] <ubotu> hmm... easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[11:42] <penguinwhoflew> anybody...? i bought a 200gb drive today just to install linux and all i get is 'error loading operating system'. a more vague error i could not wish for...
[11:42] <mloman> how do i set the dnsdomainname in ubuntu?
[11:42] <Oldak> I'm using the Ubuntu LiveCD but don't know the su password... Can anyone help?
[11:42] <eobanb> penguinwhoflew, that's probably a BIOS message, not an ubuntu one
[11:42] <Raozine> How do I enable russian(cyrillic) characters to show up in rhythmbox and in the file manager?
[11:42] <popey> penguinwhoflew: is this the only drive in the pc?
[11:42] <penguinwhoflew> no
[11:42] <MENDIGO> i need help, when I run a VCD on Mplayer, the screen is too small, and when i click on "double size" or "full screen" it doesn't change at all, the only thing that happens is that the windows gets bigger, a black space around the litlle screen
[11:42] <dhonn> no, thats not what i mean theres linux-image-*-amd64-generic that covers both, then there is linux-image-*-amd64-k8 and linux-image-*-amd64-xeon that are for specific desktop archs, but on the server side there is just a generic amd64 kernel for both amd and intel
[11:42] <scifi> would it be safe to replace current xserver.conf with my saved conf from breezy install ?
[11:42] <crimsun> Oldak: there is no su passwd.
[11:42] <popey> penguinwhoflew: have you gone through the ubuntu installation?
[11:42] <penguinwhoflew> popey: yes
[11:43] <nnz> please someone give a full url to openssh-server.deb
[11:43] <crimsun> dhonn: yes, that's intentional
[11:43] <xanavim> Oldak: try using sudo instead
[11:43] <Oddie> I have just installed ubuntu server and im unable to connect through ssh from windows. Ubuntu is 5.10... is there any firewall on default with the server addition?
[11:43] <anthony> what's the difference between the package totem and totem-xine
[11:43] <penguinwhoflew> popey:  and with it i told it the right drive to format, and to use full space
[11:43] <eobanb> scifi, probably.  if it doesnt end up working you can always just switch it back.
[11:43] <nnz> why ubuntu server cd would install without opensshd?
[11:43] <wastrel> penguinwhoflew:  when do you get that error?
[11:43] <popey> penguinwhoflew: did it ask you where to put the MBR?
[11:43] <crimsun> anthony: totem is a metapackage that depends on either totem-gstreamer or totem-xine.
[11:43] <SurfnKid> and i thought I had issues
[11:43] <eobanb> Oddie, is sshd running on it?
[11:43] <NoUse> nnz dapper or breezy?
[11:43] <penguinwhoflew> wastrel: when booting off the installed drive, and popey: no
[11:43] <dsas> nnz: No ports open by default.
[11:43] <xanavim> nnz: to leave a potential security hole closed
[11:43] <nnz> dapper
[11:43] <delire> scifi: it should be. why not backup your existing one first and give it a go?
[11:43] <Oddie> sshd is running... should be
[11:43] <ellidokuz207> bu ne yaw
[11:43] <scifi> eobanb: nechance of remind me of the replace command line ?
[11:44] <eobanb> Oddie, please double-check anyway.
[11:44] <nnz> yeah and to make me waste lots of time by makin apt to work
[11:44] <davmor2> nnz: what is wrong with the ones in dapper?
[11:44] <nnz> nice job
[11:44] <penguinwhoflew> where do i fix the MBR at?
[11:44] <octan> Hello.. can anyine telll me howi  renice an running app?
[11:44] <eobanb> scifi, mv to move, cp to copy, rm to delete.
[11:44] <nnz> there rnt any
[11:44] <nbx909> penguinwhoflew, /boot/grub
[11:44] <SurfnKid> penguinwhoflew, are you dualbooting
[11:44] <JonnyBoy> eobanb: ok. i started the reconfiguration of xserver-xorg
[11:44] <penguinwhoflew> SurfnKid: yes
[11:44] <jacob_> pm me if you know how to fix Details: Failed to execute child process "gksudo" (No such file or directory)
[11:44] <JonnyBoy> eobanb: how do i know which video card driver i supposed to select?
[11:44] <scifi> delire: if i do that the backup might replace the backup that i want to use lol
[11:44] <NoUse> nnz http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssh/openssh-server_4.2p1-7ubuntu3_i386.deb
[11:44] <eobanb> JonnyBoy, well what video card do you have?
[11:44] <Oddie> eobanb: i'll check
[11:44] <JonnyBoy> i dont know
[11:44] <anthony> is totem-xine just a command-line media player? or does that include the GUI too? do i have to install xine-ui on top of totem-xine and totem-xine-firefox-plugin?
[11:44] <SurfnKid> penguinwhoflew,  NT installed then Ubuntu?
[11:44] <JonnyBoy> what cmd do i use to check?
[11:44] <nnz> NoUse THANX!!!
[11:44] <eobanb> anthony, no, totem is in gtk
[11:44] <crimsun> anthony: it's a gui one
[11:44] <eXistenZ> eobanb, Did you find the details for installing ATI drivers for 9200?
[11:45] <leboff> delire: looks like kmediafactory is what i was lookin for, thanks!
[11:45] <dhonn> ok but shouldnt there be a two amd64 server kernels specifically targeted for amd or intel?
[11:45] <jacob_> does anyone know how to fix this error Details: Failed to execute child process "gksudo" (No such file or directory)
[11:45] <penguinwhoflew> SurfnKid: yes, but i installed ubuntu on a whole new fresh-outta-the-box drive
[11:45] <anthony> eobanb and crimsun: thanks
[11:45] <eobanb> eXistenZ, the 9200 needs only the included open source driver, called ati.
[11:45] <xanavim> nnz: compare your sources.list to this: http://pastebin.com/752263
[11:45] <grampajoe> When I try to run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" to enable the nvidia drivers, I get an error message: "Error: your X configuration has been altered."
[11:45] <SurfnKid> oh I see
[11:45] <jacob_> hello
[11:45] <penguinwhoflew> i can't even mount the installed upon drive in ubuntu-live
[11:45] <JonnyBoy> eobanb: what cmd do i use to check?
[11:45] <eXistenZ> eobanb, great, thanks ;)
[11:45] <SurfnKid> it doesnt see it :S
[11:45] <wastrel> i'm downloading the dapper torrent
[11:45] <SurfnKid> that i need to research
[11:45] <nbx909> eobanb, he figured it out, he didn't have power going to the hub that he uses ><
[11:46] <nbx909> thanks
[11:46] <delire> octan:  renice <num> <processID> -u <users> should do it
[11:46] <MehAdult> hi
[11:46] <eobanb> nbx909, it's never a good idea to plug a usb mouse into a usb hub
[11:46] <MehAdult> !tell MehAdult about ndiswrapper
[11:46] <nbx909> eobanb, why not?
[11:46] <xanavim> eobanb: why is that?
[11:46] <penguinwhoflew> SurfnKid: it sees the drive but when i double click it it says:
[11:46] <davmor2> nnz: yes there are install universe/multiverse and lo they are there to install
[11:46] <penguinwhoflew> error: device /dev/hdb1 is not removable
[11:46] <penguinwhoflew> error: could not execute pmount
[11:46] <jacob_> how do i fix gksudo
[11:46] <JonnyBoy> eobanb: Is there a command that I can type so I can find out what video card I have?
[11:46] <jacob_> it says its not there
[11:46] <glxblt> penguinwhoflew: I got the same problem
[11:46] <jacob_> buntu-live
[11:46] <jacob_> JonnyBoy eobanb: what cmd do i use to check?
[11:46] <jacob_> eXistenZ eobanb, great, thanks ;)
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[11:46] <SurfnKid> eobanb, or any device to any hub its a mess
[11:46] <glxblt> it seems that it mounts the drives for root
[11:46] <glxblt> so your user can't access them
[11:46] <eobanb> hollld up everyone
[11:46] <xanavim> eobanb: that's what a usb hub is *for*, and that's what the 2-6 ports on the back of a machine are
[11:46] <penguinwhoflew> glxblt: hooray! i'm not the only one... xD
[11:46] <livevil> Hi
[11:47] <penguinwhoflew> so what do i do to access it
[11:47] <scifi> eobanb: cant remember location of xserver.conf
[11:47] <livevil> someone can help me to install frostwire? I've the deb file
[11:47] <davmor2> has anyone got bonfire to install on x86-64 bit yet?  If so how please.
[11:47] <eobanb> scifi, it's called xorg.conf
[11:47] <SurfnKid> penguinwhoflew, keep asking someone will know :D
[11:47] <glxblt> penguinwhoflew: no idea, that's what I'm trying to find out
[11:47] <MehAdult> Can I install ndiswrapper for 6.0.4 if I just installed 6.0.6?
[11:47] <eobanb> scifi, it's in etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:47] <xanavim> scifi: do you mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[11:47] <penguinwhoflew> glxblt: awesome... haha, linux is fun...
[11:47] <scifi> eobanb: ty
[11:47] <wastrel> JonnyBoy:  lspci
[11:47] <MehAdult> I have a wireless connection that needs it.
[11:47] <dabaR> !info frostwire
[11:47] <SurfnKid> penguinwhoflew, glxblt  have ya looked in the forum?
[11:47] <livevil> !info frostwire
[11:47] <penguinwhoflew> SurfnKid: no chance yet...
[11:48] <crimsun> JonnyBoy: lspci -v |egrep '(VGA|Display)'
[11:48] <delire> livevil: it's not in the repositories? if not 'sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>'
[11:48] <crimsun> MehAdult: recompile it
[11:48] <SurfnKid> I get a few tips from ppl here but the forum is packed with solutions, its just finding the right thread thats the hardest part
[11:48] <livevil> delire it doesn't work
[11:48] <penguinwhoflew> ok why does 'su' have a password on a live cd...?
[11:48] <MehAdult> crimsun: How do I do that?
[11:48] <livevil> are different way to install it?
[11:49] <dabaR> SurfnKid: well, that is why we have the user guide, I think.
[11:49] <delire> livevil: more info required.
[11:49] <eobanb> !tell penguinwhoflew about sudo
[11:49] <eobanb> !tell penguinwhoflew about root
[11:49] <Oddie> eobanb: Thx for the ssh, all working now
[11:49] <eobanb> Oddie, glad to hear it./
[11:49] <DShepherd> does gparted resize ntfs non-destructively?
[11:49] <SurfnKid> dabar where is it at again?
[11:49] <flossgeek> Hi all, I have an issue with refresh rate, I can'y change it from the GUI, I have tried the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg configuration and manually slected my resolution and then rebooted but still I have the same resolution. I should add that I am stuck at 75Hz and I want to reduce to 60Hz. Anyone know how can resolve this, I'd be grateful for your help?
[11:49] <xanavim> penguinwhoflew: su isn't turned on, that's just a secure way of keeping the wrong people out of your system
[11:49] <dabaR> SurfnKid: in your help menu
[11:49] <crimsun> MehAdult: the same way you did for the previous version, I presume
[11:49] <xanavim> penguinwhoflew: use sudo
[11:49] <Nrbelex> Hi, if my computer meets the min. specs but can't make it through the graphical install through the live CD, how do I go through the old style install?
[11:49] <SurfnKid> oh duh
[11:49] <iNiku> this howto claims grub cannot be used to boot an lvm/raid system, wonder if that's still true? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LVMOnRaid?highlight=%28lvm%29%7C%28install%29
[11:49] <livevil> when I write the command in the terminal, it answer that was impossible to find the deb file
[11:49] <MehAdult> crimsun: This is a brand new install.
[11:49] <SurfnKid> dabaR, and thru terminal
[11:49] <crimsun> DShepherd: yes, with the usual caveat to back up your data, etc.
[11:49] <eobanb> flossgeek, you could try editing your xorg.conf and setting the refresh rate to 60Hz manually.
[11:49] <nbx909> flossgeek, did you go into advanced to change the hz to 60?
[11:49] <nnz> god damn i make sshd to work , thank you all
[11:50] <xanavim> iNiku: check the latest grub docs
[11:50] <nnz> apt doesnt work still ehh
[11:50] <flossgeek> no medium
[11:50] <DShepherd> crimsun: hmmm ok
[11:50] <dabaR> SurfnKid: it is also online
[11:50] <flossgeek> nbx909: medium
[11:50] <iNiku> anyone know how seriously out of date that wiki page is?
[11:50] <eobanb> flossgeek, do advanced
[11:50] <SurfnKid> ah cool
[11:50] <xanavim> nnz: language
[11:50] <crimsun> MehAdult: why not just use the included ndiswrapper?
[11:50] <MehAdult> crimsun: But the .debs are for 6.0.4 and I'm wondering if it's safe.
[11:50] <Xyloc> Hello everyone
[11:50] <MehAdult> crimsun: I'm not sure it's installed.
[11:50] <nbx909> flossgeek, advanced allows you to select the exact one
[11:50] <SurfnKid> iNiku, no idea I thought it was updated
[11:50] <Hentai_Jeff> hmm looks like ACX111 still got jibed in dapper
[11:50] <crimsun> MehAdult: yes, it is
[11:50] <xanavim> MehAdult: 6.0.4 is 6.0.6 now
[11:50] <flossgeek> eobanb: I did do this and addded Horizontal and Vertical settings
[11:50] <eobanb> MehAdult, 6.04 is the same thing as 6.06
[11:50] <crimsun> MehAdult: you can find myriad instructions on the wiki/forum/...
[11:50] <xanavim> MehAdult: they're the same thing generally
[11:50] <delire> livevil: did you type the full path to the debian package and use the full name of that debian package? eg if i have a package called stuff.deb on the desktop i'd 'sudo dpkg -i /home/me/Desktop/stuff.deb'
[11:50] <Xyloc> When I upgraded to Dapper form Breezy, my Xorg didn't work anymore
[11:50] <MehAdult> I'm om winblows right now dual booting. So keep that in mind.
[11:50] <eobanb> MehAdult, it was just delayed for two months so the version number changed
[11:50] <dhonn> what is one line command to install lamp
[11:51] <nbx909> dhonn, there isn't
[11:51] <MehAdult> Ok. I got the debs on my harddrive.
[11:51] <iNiku> SurfnKid: it only mentions breezy but I'm not sure how different things are on dapper in that respect
[11:51] <nbx909> dhonn, that's only for the server edition
[11:51] <eobanb> nbx909, actually i think for some reason there is a metapackage
[11:51] <Xyloc> Does anyone know what command to use to reconfigure it Ubuntu-style?
[11:51] <dhonn> i thought it was mentioned on the website
[11:51] <livevil> I'll try again being careful on the adress wait...
[11:51] <MehAdult> It's on the link on the ubotu bot
[11:51] <ucordes> what can i do when i install dapper and forgot the password on first login ??
[11:51] <nbx909> eobanb, really? i could not find it for the wor;d
[11:51] <penguinwhoflew> hey i did it
[11:51] <flossgeek> eobanb: I added "HorizSync" "VertRefresh" settings
[11:51] <xanavim> dhonn: you install them separately, apache or apache 2, mysql, perl or php or python
[11:51] <MehAdult> ucordes: Reinstall?
[11:51] <SurfnKid> iNiku,  thatll work, Im on Breezy
[11:51] <penguinwhoflew> glxblt:
[11:51] <dabaR> !lamp
[11:52] <nbx909> ucordes, reinstall or boot up in recovery mode
[11:52] <Jinkguns> I have a question
[11:52] <ucordes> meadult: No way?
[11:52] <dhonn> arg lol, it differs greatly from the lamp installation of the server disk
[11:52] <Raozine> How do I enable russian(cyrillic) characters to show up in rhythmbox and in the file manager?
[11:52] <ucordes> recovery and then?
[11:52] <penguinwhoflew> glxblt: do "sudo mount /dev/hdXX /home/ubuntu/Desktop/<folder you've made>"
[11:52] <iNiku> SurfnKid: sorry, what will? grub booting off an lvm/raid root?
[11:52] <SurfnKid> iNiku, not changing to anything at this point, Ive been on ubuntu for nearly a week and Im not about to do a typical 'reinstall' it took me very long to configure certain things and Im just learning so I'lll read that darn manual :P
[11:52] <Ng> ucordes: run "passwd yourusername"
[11:52] <SurfnKid> iNiku, reading the online manual
[11:52] <nbx909> jesus this support option is crazy
[11:52] <penguinwhoflew> SurfnKid: i've got access to the installed upon drives MBR, now how do i fix it...?
[11:53] <glxblt> penguinwhoflew: yeah, that's one solution.. but i'd like to fix the links at the computer browser
[11:53] <Nrbelex> If my computer meets the min. specs but can't make it through the graphical install through the live CD, how do I go through the old style install?
[11:53] <nbx909> they need support ticket like system
[11:53] <nbx909> lol
[11:53] <crazy_penguin> h3sp4wn: around?
[11:53] <pandamonium> Jinkguns, i've found it's probably better to ask the question rather than announcing that you have one
[11:53] <xanavim> Nrbelex: try the alternate install cd from the downloads section of ubuntu pages
[11:53] <eobanb> nbx909, support tickets are organised, but not very fast.
[11:53] <iNiku> SurfnKid: hehe... well I've been running dapper on my laptop for a while now but I want to migrate my debian desktop to dapper too
[11:53] <SurfnKid> penguinwhoflew,  mmm not saavy in that part sorry :(
[11:53] <ucordes> Ng: does this create a new account?
[11:53] <Nrbelex> xanavim, just the one alternate, not the server CD?
[11:53] <scifi> wooohoooooo, xorg backup works!!! altho i need to do the refresh rate fix again :D
[11:53] <Ng> ucordes: no, it just changes the password for yourusername (ie whatever username you put in)
[11:53] <flossgeek> eobanb, should i try advance instead of medium
[11:53] <iNiku> SurfnKid: but the thing is, I've got an LVM installation there and I want to preserve the /home filesystem
[11:54] <exhale> how do i get the address bar in Nautilus PERMANENT?
[11:54] <eobanb> nbx909, it's only truly crazy on rare days like this when there are 1000+ users in the channel.
[11:54] <[zero] > Whats the thing called (on the panel) that shows amsn and that envolope? and that kind of stuff..?
[11:54] <titanium_platypu> dang, it's taking me forever to download Dapper
[11:54] <SurfnKid> iNiku, awesome, how has it been running? my laptop works awesome on it
[11:54] <titanium_platypu> heavy traffic?
[11:54] <eobanb> flossgeek, yes, that's what i already said
[11:54] <nbx909> eobanb, true but there is an ircd that has a bot that will only voice a few people at a time so that it doesn't get crazy
[11:54] <Jinkguns> Panda, sorry.
[11:54] <xanavim> Nrbelex: I don't know about the server cd, just the desktop and alternate ones
[11:54] <delire> livevil: you should just be able to double-click it anyway..
[11:54] <dabaR> exhale: gconf
[11:54] <visik7> dapper rulez really !!!
[11:54] <visik7> I've put the livecd on an new asus V6J
[11:54] <visik7> and all JUST works
[11:54] <kbrooks> i want ubuntu cds now!
[11:54] <eobanb> nbx909, then users wouldn't be able to ask/answer questions when they needed to.
[11:54] <visik7> great!
[11:54] <ucordes> k ill try that ng
[11:54] <SurfnKid> iNiku, oh asi in booting to debian an ubuntu?
[11:54] <penguinwhoflew> anyone know how to fix a MBR so i don't get crazy operating system errors in BIOS?
[11:54] <ucordes> thx
[11:54] <kbrooks> i want ubuntu cds now!
[11:54] <Nrbelex> xanavim, that's fine - thanks
[11:54] <Jinkguns> Can anyone tell me why network manager can't even handle logging onto a wireless network?
[11:54] <exhale> dabaR, command not found
[11:54] <eobanb> kbrooks, so download them
[11:54] <scifi> eobanb: the xorg.backup worked, just need to do the refresh rate fix again :D
[11:54] <nbx909> eobanb, once one person's problem is "solved" they are devoiced
[11:54] <kbrooks> Canonical, SHIP THEM TO ME NOW!
[11:54] <heanol> snoops, Did you solve the booting issues?
[11:55] <eobanb> kbrooks, unless you have a question, please stop
[11:55] <SurfnKid> Jinkguns, make sure there is no encryption
[11:55] <crimsun> Jinkguns: because n-m is ... young.
[11:55] <pandamonium> Jinkguns, no need to apologise to me ;-) i'm just some clueless nitwit who's trying to learn something ;-)
[11:55] <scifi> eobanb:  thx for the reminders
[11:55] <petiteconne> hey is somebody here who can tell me how i can start the bash before gnome/x
[11:55] <Xyloc> Howto reconfigure Xorg?
[11:55] <yipe> YAY! 1000+ people!
[11:55] <nbx909> eobanb, they message chanserv with a flag to be put in line
[11:55] <kbrooks> HymnToLife: why?
[11:55] <xanavim> Jinkguns: I got the impression it worked best with eth0
[11:55] <HymnToLife> because I want them too :p
[11:55] <dabaR> exhale: the gconf editor has that as an option. You will need to search for a while, since you are not even familiar with the program
[11:55] <nbx909> Xylene, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:55] <iNiku> SurfnKid: no, I want to upgrade the desktop to dapper by doing a clean install but I want to preserve /home, which is on lvm+raid
[11:55] <nbx909> !reconfigurex
[11:55] <crimsun> petiteconne: please clarify your question
[11:55] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nbx909
[11:56] <davmor2> please tell me someone here is on 64bit and has installed bonfire, please
[11:56] <wastrel> is there a diary or journal entry type in evolution?
[11:56] <nbx909> ubotu, reconfigurex is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:56] <ubotu> nbx909: okay
[11:56] <livevil> delire: it answer:" an error has occured processing FrostWire-4.10.9-1-i586.deb access denied (translated from italian)
[11:56] <[zero] > Whats the thing called (on the panel) that shows amsn and that envolope? and that kind of stuff..?
[11:56] <nbx909> !reconfigurex
[11:56] <ubotu> reconfigurex is, like, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:56] <nbx909> :)
[11:56] <Ng> [zero] : the systray maybe?
[11:56] <eobanb> livevil, you need to use sudo
[11:56] <kbrooks> nbx909: dont test in channel
[11:56] <[zero] > ng yeh thankx
[11:56] <kbrooks> nbx909: dont test in /msg
[11:56] <pappan> why ndiswrapper-utils is asking for breezy badger cd while installation ??
[11:56] <exhale> dabaR, what command to run the program?
[11:56] <penguinwhoflew> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hdb   Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[11:56] <Xyloc> Nice bot Ubotu! thx
[11:56] <petiteconne> crimsun: on booting my xserver starts and if i want to change view into tty1 for example its not ready ... it dures about 15 seconds longer
[11:56] <Tom__> is there a central configuration tool in dapper drake server? or should I do all configuration (network etc. by hand)?
[11:56] <nbx909> kbrooks, okay sorry
[11:56] <dabaR> exhale: gconf-editor
[11:57] <exhale> pappan, because you have the cd in sources.list
[11:57] <xfcefreak> nbx909: i think he meant test in /msg not channel
[11:57] <Jinkguns> OMG
[11:57] <kbrooks> nbx909: /msg ubotu <fill in>
[11:57] <Jinkguns> Network manager worked
[11:57] <livevil> I write sudo
[11:57] <SurfnKid> iNiku, ohh i see, that might be possible i assume doin some tweakin
[11:57] <Jinkguns> all on its own
[11:57] <Jinkguns> I'm so proud. :D
[11:57] <kbrooks> xfcefreak: ty
[11:57] <xfcefreak> yw
[11:57] <nbx909> kbrooks, yeah i'm not an irc n00b i know what you ment
[11:57] <livevil> I write the complete command
[11:57] <HymnToLife> !reconfigurex
[11:57] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, run the command         sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:57] <K|NgGh0sT> How do I get ubuntu from showing "Display CHanged: LCD On" randomly all the time?
[11:57] <keleus> whats a good utility for taking MP3s and making audio CDs? (I can't use SCSI burners, i have ATAPI)
[11:57] <crimsun> petiteconne: yes, that delay is due to our init sequence
[11:57] <anthony> okay, i have installed totem-xine (all of its dependencies) and totem-xine-firefox-plugin, and the w32codecs, but i still cannot play embedded medias
[11:57] <livevil> sudo dpkg -i /home/FrostWire-4.10.9-1-i586.deb
[11:57] <dizy> hi guys... i was thinking of installing ubuntu as a server... i was wondering if someone can point me to some reading material on firewall settings port forwarding etc
[11:58] <pandamonium> if i add the debian ftp package servers into my sources.list will i be able to use those?
[11:58] <crimsun> petiteconne: it's intentional
[11:58] <pandamonium> and if so is there a major caveat?
[11:58] <xanavim> anthony: try libxine-extracodecs
[11:58] <eobanb> pandamonium, don't do that.
[11:58] <crimsun> pandamonium: it's very likely you'll hose your system.
[11:58] <laxdragon> my upgrade died on lvm2 dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 10
[11:58] <nbx909> paddygman, yes but it will break your system
[11:58] <kbrooks> xfcefreak: are you a gnome freak or a xfce freak?
[11:58] <eobanb> pandamonium, it can sometimes work, but it's risky
[11:58] <dabaR> dizy: it depends on what you will be using as the firewall
[11:58] <xfcefreak> kbrooks: a lil of both ;0
[11:58] <pappan> exhale, ty i deselected i will try again
[11:58] <nbx909> laxdragon, reinstall
[11:58] <SurfnKid> Jinkguns, Congratulations,  Feels good to be able to do this on your own doesnt it :D
[11:58] <exhale> pappan, np
[11:58] <pandamonium> eobanb, it will cause conflicts?
[11:58] <crimsun> laxdragon: did you read the release notes reading lvm?
[11:58] <kbrooks> xfcefreak: so why not gxfreak?
[11:59] <dabaR> dizy: man iptables is a fair place to start. That is the default firewall program.
[11:59] <petiteconne> crimsun: but if i want to change it? is there no way? :)
[11:59] <eobanb> pandamonium, ubuntu's own repository is pretty huge.  it basically has everything debian's has.  so just stick with ubuntu's okay?
[11:59] <laxdragon> crimsun: no, got a link to it?
[11:59] <xfcefreak> right now im customizing xfce ;)
[11:59] <JonnyBoy> eobanb: i went through the configuration of xserver-xorg, but that didn't help
[11:59] <heanol> how do i use lilo with dapper?
[11:59] <delire> livevil: is synaptic open elsewhere? did you use sudo?
[11:59] <crimsun> petiteconne: sure, you can bump (increment) the gdm startup
[11:59] <pandamonium> eobanb, ok... just i'm having massive problems getting stuff from there
[11:59] <Oddie> exit
[11:59] <eobanb> heanol, i'd stick with grub.
[11:59] <anthony> xanavim: i can download them to my hard drive and play them fine, but when it's embedded in the browser, it doesn't work
[11:59] <crimsun> laxdragon: wiki/DapperReleaseNotes
[11:59] <K|NgGh0sT> How do I get ubuntu from showing "Display Changed: LCD On" randomly?
[11:59] <dabaR> gnomefreak, xfcefreak...
[11:59] <JonnyBoy> eobanb: rebooted, and went into normal mode - Said that the xserver failed to load
[11:59] <crimsun> laxdragon: see also the release announcement
[11:59] <xanavim> anthony: dunno