[12:23] philosophical question of the day: why is frosting stiffer than icing when ice is harder than frost? === HedgeMage contemplates that while thinning some frosting to make icing [12:25] dang it HedgeMage, you just ruined my day ;-) [12:26] lol === mhz is now known as mhz_Food === HedgeMage guards the cake from mhz_Food [12:50] lol [12:50] yummie, frosted cake! === mhz_Food BBL [12:52] hehe [12:55] hey jsgotangco :) [12:56] good morning [12:58] boy, we just get "good morning"? :p [01:00] should I be pointing people at the -users mailing list now? [01:02] Burgwork, most probably yes [01:02] pygi, meh, I answered the guy [01:02] Burgwork, and said what? :P [01:02] we can help you [01:03] ah,oki :) [01:03] Mike Thiem you are probably talkin' about :) [01:04] yep, the one and only [01:04] :) === jsgotangco starts to eat a meat bun === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [01:19] so what's new guys, its a beautiful friday here [01:20] hmm, cloudy, cold and rainy here [01:20] ick === jsgotangco removes victoria in his places to consider list [01:21] jsgotangco, it's 1:20am :) === HedgeMage looks at the drizzling outside and hopes it subsides before the pool party [01:23] hmm [01:23] I go now [01:23] hmm, I don't know what the weather is outside here, I've been in the lab all day (in the basement) [01:23] enjoy people [01:23] if all else fails, we can hang out here at the apartment === jsgotangco thinks of an edubuntu derivative for not so young kids that includes pornview, dopewars and the warty naked wallpapers in the default install === HedgeMage chuckles [01:24] jsgotangco, you sick sick man [01:24] jsgotangco: Unibuntu? [01:24] it should have a frat scheduler as well [01:25] well at least something that can chill a keg ;-) [01:25] and motion-activated webcam so you can find out who you slept with last night? :P [01:25] yeah instead of tea timer, we'll bundle it with a USB chiller [01:25] HedgeMage: and automatically sync it to your blog? ;-) [01:26] should be MySpace nothing more [01:26] lol [01:26] heh this should be the ultimate reason to resurrect the American Pie franchise [01:26] LaserJock: yeah, but you'll need facial recognition for that [01:28] should have logjam and drivel as well heh [01:28] gosh, somehow i missed out on this stuff in the last 8 years I've been in college [01:28] lol [01:29] we won't forget the women because we're bundling cycle and purity-off [01:29] best of all, its going to be powered by libsexy [01:29] worstsonamesevar [01:30] does liboil come in there too? [01:30] if it's got gst, probably [01:30] jeeze and this this the Edubuntu channel ;-) [01:30] rofl [01:31] yes! [01:31] I'm not sure what kind of "education" edgy will have but ... [01:31] LaserJock, for some, it will be very educational! [01:32] rofl === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away [01:32] and as tribute to JaneW i will try to make a port of Bliss [01:33] bliss? [01:34] check out her blog heh [01:34] jsgotangco: hehe :) [01:35] ok, that looks like too much fun [01:35] heh === jsgotangco prepares for the long day at work [01:37] jsgotangco, your version better support same sex couples and parties [01:37] yes it might upset some groups in canada im aware of that === jsgotangco hides [01:37] :) === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-167-152.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [01:40] jsgotangco, check the comments, the guy who made bliss commented on her blog [01:41] eh? === jsgotangco checks [01:42] oohhhhh [01:43] jsgotangco, given it written on top of .net, you might be able to do a gtk port, if you can convince him to open source the game [01:47] hmmm [01:47] hmmm the osnews girl just filed a bug in xorg === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.106.100.187] has joined #edubuntu [01:49] jsgotangco, eugenia? [01:49] yeah [01:49] having issues with savage [01:49] in LP or bugzilla.x.org? [01:50] hmm, fabbione vs. eugenia. This should be interesting. :-) [01:50] LP [01:50] I am betting on fabbione [01:50] bug 47948 [01:50] any takers? === jsgotangco will not touch this bug [01:51] how about eugenia vs. infinity? [01:51] infinity is fierce, but fabbione is harsh [01:51] http://comment.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020505,39271087,00.htm <-- I wonder how we can capitilize on this [01:51] bitter might be a better term for fabbione === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@201.215.87.19] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth_ [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === Amaranth_ [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@nat-pool-bos.redhat.com] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu [03:09] Heya [03:09] bddebian: you want to do some python development for edgy and edubuntu? [03:10] Burgundavia: I don't know that I can [03:10] ah [03:10] I'm kinda st00pid [03:10] hmm === Burgundavia disagrees [03:10] :-) [03:12] Burgundavia: What are you wanting to do? [03:12] Burgundavia: what do you have in mind? [03:12] port Bliss [03:12] doh [03:12] nope [03:12] jsgotangco: is that also for Unibuntu? [03:12] jsgotangco: for Edubuntu, not Pornbuntu [03:13] hehe [03:13] LaserJock: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2006-June/001489.html <-- do this in pessulus [03:13] are you looking into locked down profiles [03:13] because we're locking up vuntz for that in paris as well [03:13] indeed [03:14] sadly, I cannot help you with this, only cheer on the sidelines, due to my job [03:14] if its also possible to integrate it with sabayon or what [03:14] yep [03:14] I'm interested in locked down profiles but I doubt I have time/skills to do it [03:14] if you make pessulus do it, sabayon will get it [03:14] we actually brain dumped on this last night [03:14] just random ideas [03:15] it is not that hard [03:15] cool, got a spec? [03:15] the simplest and most fool proof way is to delete the entire home dir and recreate it [03:15] no spec yet [03:15] yeah [03:16] meh i love the ubuntu-art list [03:16] the latest one [03:16] ? [03:16] yeah [03:17] what the heck? [03:17] 6.06.1? [03:18] and what is gfxboot? [03:19] the bit that loads when you pop the live or install cds in [03:19] oh [03:19] ported for Suse I believe, so ithas some blue issues [03:20] you'd think I'd never used Ubuntu before [03:20] hehe [03:20] I only know because I raised some usability issues with it early in the cycle [03:21] gosh, this Viper550 guy is a hoot [03:21] "Great job everyone, even though I don't use Ubuntu, your [03:22] heh [03:22] artwork still looks good on my FC5 system!" [03:22] heh [03:22] its called ego tripping [03:23] I hope I never do that [03:24] please slap me if I do === bddebian slaps LaserJock just for preventative measures.. ;-P [03:26] thanks bddebian, I needed that [03:27] jsgotangco: it is cool that vuntz is going to be there. It would nice if we had a "Mark Summer of Code" for things like this [03:29] it is timely === jsgotangco remembers he has to review specs for SoC === boga [n=chatzill@CPE001346a33469-CM00159a01d7f4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #edubuntu === boga [n=chatzill@CPE001346a33469-CM00159a01d7f4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #edubuntu [] === anselmolsm [n=anselmol@200-232-236-25.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu [04:14] Amaranth: you around? [04:17] Burgundavia: yep [04:18] Amaranth: when are you planning to meet ogra and chat about SoC again? [04:18] Burgundavia: i don't think we set a time [04:18] ok === mhz_Food is now known as mhz [04:20] jsgotangco: newsletter was translated and sent [04:22] mhz: thanks! [04:23] jsgotangco: however, I could only sent it today :( [04:24] no worries [04:24] jsgotangco: it would be ideal if next time, considering we'll work together, we 'release' it same time, same date (already translated) [04:24] yes [04:24] next week ;) [04:24] oh, damn, yes [04:24] next week [04:25] jsgotangco: any ideas/structure you might wanna suggest? [04:25] mhz: i will think it over this weekend [04:26] jsgotangco: will it be possible to include a section "A coffee with Edubuntu" ? [04:26] what would that be about? [04:26] I usually write many stuff while I have coffees :) [04:26] for the newsletter I could focus on Edubuntu things [04:26] of course :) [04:27] ill try to come up with a wiki page tonight [04:27] so that anyone can contribute [04:27] oh, okis [04:27] we'll just have to massage the data [04:27] i think its the best course of action [04:27] wide open indeed [04:28] jsgotangco: do you have rights on the wiki to create NewsletterGroup [04:28] ? [04:29] in other words, can you use ACL? [04:29] is that needed? [04:29] i dont see the need for ACL? [04:30] i mean if we have a newsletter out, we put it in drupal? [04:30] the wiki becomes dumping area [04:30] ? [04:30] I think EdubuntuNewsletterDraft or something would suffice [04:30] yeah [04:31] ooh, i see === DaSkreec1 [n=Me@208.138.25.184] has joined #edubuntu [04:35] Hello === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [04:40] hi DaSkreec1 [04:40] LaserJock: Hello [04:40] Hows the Dapper day? [04:41] great! [04:42] :-) [04:42] Does https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuLTSPUpgradeNotes apply to all upgrades? [04:42] Since Edubuntu installs LTSP by default? [04:43] DaSkreec1: it would apply to any LTSP setup I would think [04:44] Right so that would apply to all installations of Edubuntu [04:45] well it is for upgrading the LTSP [04:45] not the whole system [04:46] Well won't upgrading the system upgrade LTSP? [04:46] it won't update the client chroot [04:47] so you would upgrade your system and then upgrade/recreate the client chroot for LTSP [04:47] Ah so for a standalone system on a network I can just upgrade? [04:48] sure [04:48] Great :-) === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-85-40.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_off === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-85-40.houston.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@201.215.87.19] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [06:42] 23:25 < crimsun> hmm, speaking of epiphany, is xulrunner going to be the "engine"? [06:42] 23:25 < ogra> hopefully [06:42] 23:25 < Burgwork> hopefully [06:42] xulrunner for epiphany? how did you guys get to that!? [06:43] xulrunner is non beta now? [06:43] epiphany will remain GTK based, as far as I'm aware. [06:43] DaSkreec1: it's still way before release, afaik [06:44] Thats what I though [06:45] epiphany uses gecko, the rendering engine of ff, but i think using xulrunner will require a re-write of epiphany [06:49] Good night [07:00] i doubt its going to happen soon [07:00] despite the beauty of the current epiphany === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu [07:05] The party was a success! [07:06] I got pictures of the cake, but not of the party itself (too wet to be safe for my camera) [07:09] hehe === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [07:10] I tried epiphany a bit today but wasn't very impressed [07:10] maybe I'm missing something [07:11] it's not for everyone. I tried and junked it about a dozen times over the years, but the gnome integration is omgponies. [07:12] it took me a few times to really love it [07:12] the gnome integration doesn't sell me since I only use gnome when testing edubuntu stuff so it'll look like the default... I'm really kind of anti-gnome at heart. [07:15] crimsun: I don't understand what you mean by gnome integration === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [07:16] I'm trying opera right now [07:30] LaserJock: epiphany doesn't really get to you on the first try [07:30] it just grows on you [07:31] like a fungus? [07:31] sort of heh [07:39] lol === Laser_opera [n=mantha@adsl-75-15-194-189.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:44] nice [07:44] opera even has an IRC client [07:44] Laser_opera: that is part of the problem of opera === HedgeMage hugs irssi === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_opera [n=mantha@adsl-75-15-194-189.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net] has left #edubuntu [] [07:46] irssi would be great if it didn't hurt my eyes so bad [07:46] I haven't found a theme yet that doesn't kill my eyes === bimberi wonders what a Laser_opera would be like [07:47] bimberi: come to my lab and I'll show you :-) [07:49] lol [07:50] I usually run 3-4 different wavelengths at 10Hz [07:50] kinda like a colored strobe light === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [07:52] LaserJock: the default theme is quite nice, i think :) [07:52] hmm, maybe my eyes are just bad [07:53] actually come to think of it, i did go to something kinda like it when i did visit the states. The planetarium at Denver did a laser light show to with the Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon", in its entirety, as the soundtrack [07:53] s/to with/with/ [07:53] yikes [07:53] we usually do Credence Clearwater Revival in our lab [07:54] or techno [07:54] it was fantastic. Although there was lots of people smoking funny cigarettes in the toilets before the show :) [07:55] anyway, bed time for me === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi glares at the modem === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === SteveCharles [n=SteveCha@ppp-69-223-164-94.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu === SteveCharles [n=SteveCha@ppp-69-223-164-94.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has left #edubuntu [] === P3L|C4N0 [n=sopmac@200.106.100.187] has joined #edubuntu === blue-frog [n=admin@88.121.223.198] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@nat-pool-str.redhat.com] has joined #edubuntu === shanat [n=shanat@59.92.116.100] has joined #edubuntu === networkr [n=networkr@24-207-159-129.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:16] hi [09:16] anyone in edubuntu chat? [09:20] erm... well, it helps giving us some time to respond? [09:20] highvoltage: nope, I guess not [09:21] they expect ponies. No ponies, no stay. [09:21] crimsun: we discussed this yesterday, we can put the pony theme in some repository especially for you :) [09:21] s/pony/pink pony [09:22] hooray === jsgotangco wonders when would the ubuntu-art speeches end [09:24] jsgotangco: when they get bored [09:28] Burgundavia: there will just be more people to take over from that. it's like terrorism. [09:29] uhh? [09:31] i still like the "good job everyone...even though i use FC5...did anyone like my theme" email [09:32] yep === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 [n=philipp_@hsz-hgkz.isz.ch] has joined #edubuntu === Elwell [n=Elwell@home.elwell.org.uk] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [10:12] wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [10:12] mornin all [10:18] hi [10:20] on the standard mailing list, is there an option to moderate who joins? [10:21] I want to create a list, but I only want certain people to be members [10:24] cbx33: there are managed lists [10:24] lucasvo, can they be done using mailman? [10:25] cbx33, yep they can [10:25] without any special configuration [10:25] cbx33: you can also use www.vincisolutions.ch/products/mercury [10:25] :) [10:25] and you can also have 2 lists - one with members, one with allowed list of posters to list 1 === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-245-96.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [10:27] w00t I found it [10:28] Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 67108864 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 12064993 bytes) in /usr/share/webmail.wservices.ch/roundcubemail/program/lib/Mail/mimeDecode.php on line 321 [10:29] oh [10:30] oh dear === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@nat-pool-bos.redhat.com] has joined #edubuntu === khermans [n=khermans@c-71-232-93-157.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:02] I need some mailman help again [11:03] I have 3 addresses subscribed to the list [11:03] one is on the same hostname as the list itself [11:03] the other two aren't [11:03] all can send email to the list and it appears in the archives [11:04] however, only the one with the address that is on the host name receives mail from the list [11:04] the other two addresses will receive welcome to the list emails, and when they weren't subscribed received the your post requires moderation mail [11:04] any ideas [11:05] is it this box [11:05] Host name this list prefers for email. [11:05] (Details for host_name) [11:05] I'm wondering === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [11:53] cbx33, poke :) [11:56] hey pygi [11:56] cbx33, I need something from you, oki? [11:57] i can try [11:57] https://launchpad.net/people/student-panel [11:57] join it? [11:58] yup, if you want :) [11:58] done === FireEgl [i=Atlantic@Atlantica.US] has joined #Edubuntu [12:00] cbx33, welcome :) [12:01] :D [12:01] do we have an emblem ? [12:01] :p [12:02] cbx33, not yet...I think s-c-p has an icon, se we'll see :) === ulinskie [n=ulinskie@202.57.88.42] has joined #edubuntu === ulinskie [n=ulinskie@202.57.88.42] has left #edubuntu [] [12:11] cbx33, we'll have a meeting somewhere next week [12:11] ok === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu [12:19] *gulp* 597 hits from distrowatch the past 24h [12:20] xubuntu is even #10 in distrowatch! wow. [12:20] (for last 7 days) [12:21] xubuntu: quite a newcomer. cool [12:21] edubuntu is #32 for last 7 days [12:21] I'm downloading it to test that ltsp installation option :) === bimberi is running xubuntu for the first time ever right now [12:22] #32 not bad either [12:22] it has a very cool login splash [12:22] bimberi what's your first impression? do you like xcfe? [12:22] yes, very much === pips1 likes the splash too [12:22] i really should try it on my Celeron466 [12:23] #32 is excellent for a niche distribution [12:23] the xfce mouse running in a spinning logo [12:23] highvoltage :) [12:23] bimberi yeah :) [12:23] bimberi: i've used it on a celron300 with 64MB ram, and it even worked well there :) [12:23] highvoltage: ooh good :) [12:24] i really think that "edxubuntu" is going to be a good combination [12:26] yep, that's what we're going to use for tuxlabs. [12:26] yes, i saw that (on the mailing list) [12:27] 16 Xubuntu 428 [12:27] WOW [12:27] sorry, i'm quite excited about it :) [12:27] it's on place 16 in last month [12:27] geez, and it only released yesterday for the first time :) === bimberi boots the celeron :) === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@nat-pool-str.redhat.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:43] highvoltage who is the core people involved in xubuntu? [12:43] are [12:44] last time i stuck my head into the xubuntu channel I think it was less that 5 heads present... [12:44] pips1: https://launchpad.net/people/xubuntu-team === pips1 goes and looks again [12:44] Irssi: #xubuntu: Total of 45 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 44 normal [12:45] woa different story today, what a crowd :) [12:45] gimpshop is cool [12:46] it's not packaged for ubuntu yet, is it? [12:46] I don't know [12:46] lucasvo what is it? [12:46] pips1: gimp with photoshop like UI [12:46] other menus [12:47] need to check that out then, definitely! I have a hard time getting used to gimp because I'm so used to photoshop [12:47] http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241 [12:47] pips1, I'm photoshop user too [12:47] cheers [12:48] gimpshop [12:48] ? === pips1 since photoshop 2.0 [12:48] :) === pips1 professional photographer [12:48] I am using it since 4 [12:48] :) [12:49] pips1, [12:49] silentkeystroke.deviantart.com [12:49] :D [12:49] would appreciate feedback :p [12:50] does gimpshop have adjustment layers :p [12:50] that's my fav feature of ps compared to others [12:50] well, professional photographer is wrong, I was trained as a professional photographer, but then got sucked into this whole internet thing ;-) [12:50] hehe [12:51] I just mess around [12:51] if gimpshop has adjustment layers I'll install it right now [12:52] no [12:52] it doesn't [12:52] :( [12:53] then I'm afraid I'll be keeping my wine emulation of photoshop 6 [12:53] cbx33 very nice work, dude! [12:53] ty :p [12:53] yeah, adjustment layers is a killer feature for me too :) [12:54] you can do stuff just sooo quickly [12:54] pips1, http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/9488238/ [12:54] ever tried that :p [12:54] take flamin ages [12:54] excellent [12:55] was a 1 in 1,000,000 chance [12:55] I can imagine... [12:55] hover flys don;t tend to land for long [12:55] ;) === cbx33 gets back to gisomount coding [12:55] yeah, bloody nervous buggers [12:55] hehe [12:55] pips1, where are you in the world? [12:55] in the nicest city of the world [12:56] cbx33 that shot is gold [12:56] no, platinum [12:56] ! [12:56] Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pips1 [12:56] and you should have seen the original of this http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/5729831/ [12:56] it sucked [12:56] was taken from a car one day [12:58] cbx33 do you do (colour) printing yourself? [12:58] no [12:58] occasionally print laser [12:58] cos it's all digital [12:58] ic [12:59] my dad does do colour prints [12:59] I've done B+W [12:59] no analog whatsoever? [12:59] ah [12:59] not any more [12:59] digital gives an amateur the freedom to experiment FREE [12:59] I still do analog for landscapes [12:59] yeh [01:00] wish i had this one in analog http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/2753932/ [01:00] who did this? [01:00] jsgotangco, what? [01:00] the images? [01:00] me [01:00] nice lens [01:00] on which photo? [01:00] or is it already altered? [01:01] ahh the hues were changed [01:01] oh man the photographers are taking over #edubuntu ;-) [01:01] jsgotangco, yeh i do do a little *cough* editing [01:01] pips1: i do b&w then [01:02]