[01:02] <Zambezi> Can anybody help me? I having problem with apt-get so I'm using wget instead but it won't work. I need assistent.
[01:03] <lionelp> Zambezi: it is more #ubuntu relative so :)
[01:04] <Zambezi> No. Cause I'm running with WM.-
[01:04] <lionelp> WM ?
[01:04] <Zambezi> *without. I installed Ubuntu server. I changed two thing in sources.list but I can't download a file.
[01:05] <Zambezi> lionelp: WM = Windows manager.
[01:05] <Zambezi> lionelp: And now I trying to uncompress the file, but I won't work.
[01:05] <lionelp> Ok ok
[01:05] <lionelp> Can you show us your sources.list ?
[01:06] <lionelp> paste it on pastebin.com
[01:06] <Zambezi> lionelp: Yes.
[01:06] <Zambezi> lionelp: Just give me a minute.
[01:06] <lionelp> no pb
[01:06] <spike> eeer, how does the window manager matters?
[01:06] <lionelp> but not a lot, my bed is calling me :)
[01:06] <lionelp> spike :)
[01:06] <spike> a problem with soures.list isnt an ubuntu-development related question.
[01:07] <spike> there isnt much to discuss about it
[01:07] <lionelp> spike: we have to admit that we spend more time on server support here than on server dev
[01:07] <lionelp> I admit that his problem is not a server problem btw
[01:08] <Zambezi> lionelp: http://pastebin.com/752403
[01:09] <spike> lionelp: indeed. and honestly I'm one of those pro to server support as in install applications and the like. yet they must be someway server related
[01:09] <lionelp> spike: i know that your are pro server support
[01:09] <spike> ah, you do? :)
[01:10] <Zambezi> lionelp: And here's the repos: http://einsteinmg.dyndns.org/debian/
[01:10] <lionelp> I remember a mail you send on ubuntu-server few month ago
[01:10] <ajmitch> spike: pro server support? in what way?
[01:10] <spike> I'm still waiting for the day we'll come out with ubuntu-isp
[01:10] <spike> ajmitch: in a way that we have space for discussions about sysadmins
[01:10] <spike> ajmitch: exactly like debian-isp
[01:11] <spike> to me, ubuntu-server should be like ubuntu-isp, and dev discussion should be moved to ubuntu-server-development
[01:11] <ajmitch> ah right
[01:11] <lionelp> maybe it would be more appropriate to use ubuntu-server-devel and #ubuntu-server-devel for devel and keep server for support
[01:11] <spike> eheeh
[01:11] <ajmitch> we already have far too many ubuntu channels
[01:11] <lionelp> spike++
[01:11] <spike> ajmitch: indeed
[01:11] <lionelp> that's not wrong :)
[01:11] <ajmitch> and freenode has a 20-channel limit
[01:12] <spike> it is at a certain degree
[01:12] <ajmitch> so you can't join them all, and discussion gets split unnecessarily
[01:13] <Zambezi> It's too many people in #ubntu so noone can help me. Please, it's one thing. I really need it.
[01:13] <lionelp> nice, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTestingTeam is getting more and more complete
[01:13] <lionelp> Zambezi: PV
[01:15] <lionelp> :)
[01:15] <spike> well, need to concentrate and try to finish this. talk to you later guys, c ya
[01:16] <lionelp> ciao
[01:17] <Zambezi> lionelp: Do you see my answers?
[01:17] <lionelp> no :-(
[01:17] <Zambezi> lionelp: Dammit. We take it here.
[01:17] <lionelp> Ok, know why
[01:18] <Zambezi> lionelp:  I upgraded Breezy to Dapper RC and it worked. But apt-get won't work so now I have to install it with wget, but this is the first time and I can get it to work.
[01:18] <lionelp> Zambezi: /join #zambezi
[01:34] <Cas> I really need php5-tidy which isn't availible, is it possible to compile it in from apt-get source php5?
[01:35] <lionelp> yes
[01:39] <neoncode> I've tried putting a server install of ubuntu 6.06 on this computer and it always stalls at "Setting up the Clock" At 0%... Even when there is no network present so it carn't be a NTP thing?
[01:43] <neoncode> Anyone know what's wrong?
[01:43] <lionelp> Do you wait ?
[01:44] <Cas> lionelp: any idea how I can put the tidy stuff in a package once it's build?
[01:44] <Cas> neoncode: you mean the installation?
[01:44] <neoncode> Cas: Yea...
[01:45] <lionelp> neoncode: how long ?:)
[01:45] <lionelp> It should timeout and pass
[01:45] <neoncode> I left it for like 10 minutes on that screen... I'm at the boot menu now.... I'l try in install again...
[01:46] <lionelp> Cas: yes but  it is a bit long to explain to do it properly...
[01:46] <lionelp> and I should be in bed since 1h now :)
[01:46] <Cas> hehe, have some documentation directions?
[01:47] <Cas> neoncode: could it be the part it sets your timezone?
[01:48] <lionelp> Cas: search on the wiki for package creation
[01:49] <lionelp> Are you familiar with Debian package creation ?
[01:49] <ajmitch> the packaging guide may be a good start
[01:50] <ajmitch> at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[01:50] <Cas> not really, but I think I can hande it with some documentation, the only thing I'm afraid of is how I only get the tidy part and not the whole PHP package
[01:50] <Cas> tnx ajmitch, will take a look
[01:52] <neoncode> How long should it take to do this "Setting up the Clock" BIt anyway? Or for it to time out?
[01:52] <lionelp> neoncode: you have no network ?
[01:53] <neoncode> lionelp: No, I just tried the install with the network cable un-pluged. See if it would make a diffrence.
[01:53] <neoncode> I Pluged it back in this time.
[01:54] <lionelp> strange...
[01:54] <lionelp> btw, time to go to bed for me
[01:54] <lionelp> sorry...
[01:54] <neoncode> ok..
[01:57] <neoncode> Still going...
[03:32] <SEJeff> Does anyone know the name of the package that supposedly sets up the lamp stack with 1 command?
[03:32] <SEJeff> I'm guessing it's a metapackage, but I read on the ubuntu release that a fully working lamp stack is available via 1 command so I'm curious how.
[03:38] <gpd> no - it is not a metapackage at this time :(
[03:38] <gpd> it is an option on the install CD
[03:39] <gpd> however i could scroll back and find the packages if you need
[03:39] <gpd> metapackage funk is apparently appearing in Edgy [according to infinity] 
[03:40] <SEJeff> gpd: You've *got* to be kidding right?
[03:40] <SEJeff> And so those of us that have dist-upgraded faithfully since warty are SOL? That feature should not be touted if thats the case.
[03:41] <gpd> hardly SOL -- it is still one line ... hold on let me check
[03:41] <SEJeff> gpd: thankyou
[03:42] <gpd> apt-get install apache2  apache2-mpm-prefork libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server php5-mysql  php5-mysqli
[03:42] <maswan> apt-get install apache postgresql [you should already have linux and perl installed] 
[03:42] <SEJeff> Ok, I just assumed it was some server-candy magic metapackage. Thanks again guys
[03:43] <gpd> maswan: isn't that LAPP :P
[03:45] <maswan> "Most of our scripting languages start with p" for 'M' :P
[03:45] <maswan> anyway, I'm really sleeping now, not ircing.
[03:46] <jsgotangco> maswan: good night
[08:45] <Tatey> I understand this is a development related channel, however, I haven't been able to find a possible solution from #ubuntu. My question is a simple yes/no. Is it possible to perform a server install over SSH?
[08:46] <gpd> do you mean setup an existing ubuntu as a 'server'
[08:46] <Tatey> no, a fresh install
[08:46] <gpd> how are you ssh'ing into this box?
[08:48] <Tatey> currently, I'm not. For example, with Gentoo you can perform the entire install over SSH, and I believe you can with FreeBSD too. I was just curious if you can with Ubuntu-server
[08:48] <infinity> Tatey: I'm not sure if we're including the openssh-server udeb in our d-i builds, but if we are, you can do an ssh callback installation in expert mode.
[08:48] <infinity> (That feature exists for s390, since all s390 boxes are completely headless)
[08:49] <Tatey> thanks very much infinity :)
[10:20] <UserName14> This morning I had courier\postfix working perfectly on my system but its not working anymore i cant send pop\imap or login to my inbox I assume ubuntu forgot the Maildir thingy and thats why its no longer working  In telnet i get a ERR Maildir no such file or directory
[10:20] <UserName14> does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:25] <J_P> hi all
[03:25] <J_P> people< i have one important question :
[03:26] <J_P> in search apt show for me linux-image-2.6.15-23-686, linux-image-2.6.15-23-server and I have the server. so is better install linux-image-2.6.15-23-server right  ?
[03:26] <J_P> But Aren't there linux-image-2.6.15-23-server  specific for each arquitecture ? (Pentium /amd etc) ?
[03:27] <J_P> that linux-image-2.6.15-23-server works for all CPUs  as server ? anyone can explaim me that ?
[03:29] <J_P> anyone here ?
[03:32] <J_P> hi, My conection lost..
[03:32] <J_P> :-)
[03:32] <J_P> anyone see my last question ?
[03:34] <J_P> anyone here ?
[03:54] <Zaggynl> Hi, I've just installed ubuntu-server, and I'm wondering which window manager to pick
[03:55] <Zaggynl> I got a hearattack when I noticed that installing xubuntu-desktop is 965mb and kubuntu-desktop is 1322mb
[03:55] <Wil0000> should the server edition boot to gnome or kde?
[03:55] <infinity> Zaggynl: If you wanted a window manager, you probably didn't want ubuntu-server.
[03:55] <Wil0000> or soes it not include it?
[03:55] <Wil0000> haha, thats what i thought
[03:55] <infinity> Wil0000: Neither.  It's bare-bones.
[03:55] <Zaggynl> infinity: well I have to get a server running
[03:55] <infinity> Zaggynl: Yes, none of my servers have monitors, let alone a windowing system...
[03:55] <Wil0000> im downloading x11, thats will dive it yes?
[03:56] <infinity> Wil0000: If you want a full desktoppy system, grab one of {xubuntu,ubuntu,kubuntu}-desktop.
[03:56] <Zaggynl> infinity: hum err I have get ubuntu talking to my win2k3 AD , and I was hoping I could do it using a wm
[03:56] <infinity> That'll be a huge download, but you'll be happy.
[03:56] <Zaggynl> *I have to get
[03:56] <infinity> Zaggynl: I fail to see how one relates to the other.
[03:57] <infinity> Zaggynl: There are no GUI tools to configure Samba, Kerberos, or LDAP, the three components of an Active Directory.
[03:57] <Zaggynl> okay
[03:57] <Zaggynl> ill drop the whole wm part then
[03:58] <Zaggynl> I'll follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ActiveDirectoryHowto and I'll see how far I will come, thanks for the advice
[09:13] <arnaud___> is there a server metapackage for dapper ? (like ubuntu-server for breezy)
[09:19] <ivoks> no
[09:19] <ivoks> ubuntu-minimal
[09:20] <ghort> ok thanks
[09:20] <ivoks> it's hard to create -server metapackage
[09:20] <ivoks> since server could be mail server, web server, ftp server, etc...
[09:20] <ghort> maybe with linux-server
[09:21] <ghort> but I agree
[09:21] <ivoks> that's a kernel
[09:21] <ivoks> linux-server is type of kernel
[09:22] <ghort> yes, I don't really see the problem
[10:30] <jackc> ll