[12:26] <bimberi> ooh, HedgeMage, good luck from me too!  Is it an interview?  Don't forget to be ready for when they ask if _you_ have any questions
[12:28] <mhz> arkan0x, hey
[12:28] <mhz> arkan0x, puedes el lunes al as 15:00 ver el hotel con nosotros?
[12:29] <mhz> arkan0x, debo irme inmediatamente :(
[12:29] <mhz> arkan0x, see ya
[12:29] <mhz> bye all guys
[12:50] <pitux> hello
[12:50] <pitux> can any helpme?
[12:50] <pygi> pitux, whats issue?
[12:50] <pitux> i try install edubuntu 6.06
[12:51] <pitux> but, the installation dead in "Building LTSP chroot"
[12:51] <pitux> i check the disk before
[12:51] <pitux> and the disk is good
[12:51] <pitux> the screen lost
[12:52] <pitux> what can be?
[12:52] <pitux> sorry, my english is very basic
[12:53] <pitux> are there any form for avoid "Building LTSP chroot"?
[12:54] <pygi> try CTRL+C
[12:54] <pygi> or you could go for expert installation (not sure if there you can avoid it)
[12:55] <pitux> ok i try inmediatly
[12:55] <pitux> thanks
[12:55] <pitux> can install edubuntu from ubuntu?
[12:56] <pygi> you can: sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[12:56] <pygi> you have to do some manual configuring then tho
[12:56] <LaserJock> pitux: what do you want to do with Edubuntu?
[12:56] <pitux> install edubuntu, but the installation don't result
[12:57] <pitux> ok no problem 
[12:57] <pitux> thanks
[12:59] <LaserJock> do you want to use LTSP?
[01:00] <pitux> no
[01:00] <pitux> i install edubuntu in my laptop
[01:00] <crimsun> hmm...god__ never replied to my question
[01:00] <pitux> i am interesting in edu apps
[01:00] <LaserJock> then you could just install Ubuntu
[01:01] <pitux> ok
[01:01] <pitux> are the same edu-apps?
[01:01] <pygi> pitux, or install edubuntu workstation
[01:01] <LaserJock> if you want the Edubuntu look and default apps then install edubuntu-desktop after you get Ubuntu installed
[01:01] <pitux> cook
[01:02] <pygi> pitux, some info about edubuntu
[01:02] <LaserJock> pitux: Edubuntu and Ubuntu grab apps from the same repositories, they just differ in what apps are installed by default
[01:02] <pitux> the system base is install
[01:02] <pygi> wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters
[01:02] <pygi> night all
[01:03] <pitux> i try install edubuntu workstation
[01:29] <bddebian> Hello
[01:30] <RobinShepheard> hello all
[01:30] <LaserJock> hi RobinShepheard 
[01:30] <bddebian> Hello RobinShepheard
[01:30] <RobinShepheard> You will have to forgive me, I am a bit new to all this IRC lark
[01:31] <LaserJock> hehe, no problem
[01:33] <RobinShepheard> I realise that this may possibly be the wrong place to ask this, but is edubuntu just a short cut to ubuntu with the full ltsp environment, obviously give or take a few apps
[01:33] <LaserJock> more-or-less yeah
[01:33] <LaserJock> you could install Ubuntu and then later do LTSP
[01:34] <LaserJock> but it is easier to set up via the Edubuntu install
[01:34] <RobinShepheard> I did guess as much
[01:34] <RobinShepheard> will look at dropping a few of the installed apps then
[01:35] <RobinShepheard> it is for a stockbrokers, and they dont really need things like the periodic table :)
[01:35] <LaserJock> oh, yeah
[01:35] <LaserJock> but you want LTSP?
[01:35] <RobinShepheard> well, my reasoning may be a bit flawed but is as follows
[01:36] <RobinShepheard> we have various offices around the country that we provide apps and services to
[01:36] <RobinShepheard> We use citrix to provide then to everybody, whether they are in the main office or not
[01:37] <RobinShepheard> we have a few old 800mhz boxes lurking in the store and I thought that I may just move a couple of the branches to ltsp
[01:38] <RobinShepheard> I then just have to worry about the main ltsp server in each branch, rather than each desktop, so less work to keep it all upto date
[01:38] <LaserJock> hmm, I don't think LTSP will work outside a local network, but I could be wrong
[01:39] <LaserJock> oh, let me reread that
[01:39] <RobinShepheard> nah it will just be working on the local lans in each office
[01:39] <LaserJock> yeah
[01:40] <LaserJock> so then you only need to take care of one computer at each branch, right?
[01:40] <RobinShepheard> also gives them less to balls up when they try to muck around
[01:40] <RobinShepheard> well that is my thinking
[01:41] <LaserJock> cool
[01:41] <RobinShepheard> once citrix is installed on the ltsp server everyone would have access to it
[01:41] <RobinShepheard> and there would be no config of the desktops, bar setting ten to boot from lan
[01:41] <RobinShepheard> doh them to boot from lan even
[01:42] <LaserJock> hmm, sounds like a good project
[01:42] <LaserJock> I haven't had a chance to try LTSP out myself yet
[01:43] <RobinShepheard> well, it is more a case of if it works it is less work for me
[01:43] <RobinShepheard> I set up a dapper version test server in the office this afternoon and have had a chance to boot 1 client from it
[01:43] <RobinShepheard> VERY sweet
[01:44] <RobinShepheard> works like a dream if you ignore the path in the piccy in the docs when you have to set up dhcp
[01:44] <RobinShepheard> there is a run dialog box and it has the wrong path in it, you have to use the one in the text
[01:44] <RobinShepheard> not in the picture
[01:47] <LaserJock> ah
[01:48] <RobinShepheard> I am thinking of dropping a line to someone about that but have to double check who
[01:50] <LaserJock> RobinShepheard: just send it to the edubuntu-devel mailing list
[01:51] <RobinShepheard> ahh could do, I was going to find the address of Jonathan Carter on the website
[01:51] <RobinShepheard> he has signed all the pages
[01:54] <LaserJock> yeah, he would get it either way :-)
[01:56] <RobinShepheard> despite having used linux for quite a long time this is really the first distro which has really drawn my interest in helping
[01:56] <RobinShepheard> not sure wether that is a good thing or not
[01:56] <RobinShepheard> well for the distro that is ;)
[01:58] <LaserJock> RobinShepheard: same story with me, I used Gentoo, Fedora, SuSE, etc. but Ubuntu was really the first one where is felt like I could contribute and make a difference
[01:59] <LaserJock> the community is really awesome
[01:59] <RobinShepheard> lol yeah I have had a similar list, gentoo, redhat, fedora, suse and so on.
[02:00] <RobinShepheard> yeah the community does seem to be a major point of the distro almost
[02:00] <LaserJock> well, it almost has to be. there aren't all that many people paid to work on it :-)
[02:01] <RobinShepheard> yeah true enough
[02:01] <RobinShepheard> I think I really need to look into how I can help more. 
[02:01] <RobinShepheard> I am not a programmer really so I cant contribute that way much
[02:03] <LaserJock> well there is lots to choose from
[02:04] <LaserJock> documentation, packaging, marketing, artwork, bug fixing/triaging
[02:04] <LaserJock> tell me what you like to do and I can find you a team to join :-)
[02:04] <RobinShepheard> that is the main problem really, where do I start
[02:05] <RobinShepheard> I can probably rule out artwork and packaging as art & design is not a strong point
[02:06] <LaserJock> packaging is making the source packages that get made into .debs
[02:06] <LaserJock> it is where I got started
[02:06] <RobinShepheard> doh, my mistake
[02:06] <LaserJock> you just need pretty decent knowledge of linux, but you don't have to be a programmer or anything
[02:06] <RobinShepheard> how much of that requires any programming knowledge?
[02:07] <RobinShepheard> because I am a little lacking in that department
[02:07] <LaserJock> no problemo
[02:07] <LaserJock> are you currently running Dapper?
[02:07] <LaserJock> non-Edubuntu Dapper?
[02:07] <RobinShepheard> Dapper Ubuntu on my laptop
[02:07] <LaserJock> ok, go to System -> Help -> System Documentation I believe it is
[02:08] <RobinShepheard> ahh I got it
[02:08] <LaserJock> I wrote a packaging guide (with the help of other community members)
[02:09] <RobinShepheard> The one I am currently reading???
[02:09] <LaserJock> should be yes
[02:09] <RobinShepheard> sweet
[02:10] <LaserJock> so that has a bit on packaging. A good place to hang out for that is #ubuntu-motu . They look after the Universe apps and are generally a cool bunch
[02:10] <RobinShepheard> ahh may have just hit a slight snag at the mo, cant say I really know anything about make
[02:11] <LaserJock> hmm, ok
[02:11] <LaserJock> have you every built an app from source, i.e. something like ./configure && make && make install ?
[02:11] <RobinShepheard> yeah
[02:12] <LaserJock> well, then you've used it at least ;-)
[02:12] <LaserJock> anyway, if you don't want to dive into packaging just yet
[02:12] <RobinShepheard> yeah true, but the config options are a little beyond me at the mo
[02:12] <RobinShepheard> I am a sysadmin, I program, if you can call it that in perl
[02:13] <LaserJock> well, you can still package you will just need to learn some stuff :-)
[02:13] <LaserJock> if you don't want to dive into that you could try bug fixing/triaging
[02:14] <RobinShepheard> doesn't sound like a bad option
[02:14] <LaserJock> #ubuntu-bugs and wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad and wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay are good places for that
[02:14] <LaserJock> you will often deal with MOTUs and packaging there too, whenever you want
[02:15] <LaserJock> and if you want to write documentation there is always the Documentation Team (#ubuntu-doc and wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumenationTeam)
[02:15] <LaserJock> and of course there is all of that in Edubuntu too
[02:16] <LaserJock> people can float pretty freely between teams and we generally know each other fairly well
[02:16] <RobinShepheard> I think probably the best thing now is to go away and read a bit from the addresses and go from there
[02:17] <RobinShepheard> documentation is possible a quite interesting place to go
[02:18] <RobinShepheard> as I am possibly just about to implement a system across multiple offices
[02:18] <RobinShepheard> may be useful to some one else
[02:19] <LaserJock> yeah, the edubuntu team is working on an Edubuntu cookbook
[02:19] <RobinShepheard> yeah, I did see some of that
[02:19] <LaserJock> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters?highlight=%28Edubuntu%29
[02:20] <LaserJock> and the documenation team has a server setup guide (in that same help system as the Packaging Guide) that could always use help as well
[02:21] <RobinShepheard> thanks a lot for your help
[02:21] <LaserJock> you'll soon find that there is way more to do than you could have imagined and then the problem is limiting yourself
[02:21] <RobinShepheard> I am afraid I have to scoot and collect my better half from town, she just rang
[02:21] <LaserJock> hehe, mine is coming to pick me up soon too
[02:22] <RobinShepheard> lol, guess I got the short straw
[02:22] <LaserJock> :-)
[02:22] <RobinShepheard> just finished a night on the lash with work colleages and needs to get home.
[02:23] <RobinShepheard> still better than having to get a taxi
[02:23] <LaserJock> sure
[02:23] <RobinShepheard> got to go any way, thanks again
[02:24] <LaserJock> no problem
[02:24] <LaserJock> glad you stopped by
[02:24] <RobinShepheard> so am I, never know, if you are really unlikely I may turn up again :)
[02:24] <bddebian> unlikely? :-)
[02:25] <RobinShepheard> doh unlucky
[02:25] <bddebian> :-)
[02:25] <LaserJock> hehe
[02:25] <bddebian> They can't get any unluckier than having me around ;-)
[02:25] <RobinShepheard> lol, see everyone around bye bye
[02:25] <LaserJock> stop it bddebian, you know we love you :-)
[03:14] <HedgeMage> ogra: around?
[03:15] <crimsun> if he's sane, he's either asleep or drunk
[03:15] <HedgeMage> LOL
[03:15] <crimsun> or getting ponies.
[03:15] <HedgeMage> darnit
[03:16] <bddebian> Dang another GIRL? :-)
[03:16] <HedgeMage> rofl
[03:16] <crimsun> HedgeMage: everyone wants a [my little]  pony, stolen from various Web sites, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, ...
[03:16] <HedgeMage> ahh
[03:17] <crimsun> so when we say something sucks because it has no ponies, it's obvious ;)
[03:17] <crimsun> bddebian: sheesh, don't you have three of 'em?
[03:17] <bddebian> 4 counting my wife :-)
[03:18] <bddebian> But it's not like we have a lot in #hurd ;-P
[03:18] <crimsun> yeah, I'm not gonna go there
[03:18] <crimsun> (err, # women, not hurd)
[06:32] <Burgundavia> hey Amaranth
[06:32] <Burgundavia> have you and ogra nailed down a time?
[06:33] <Amaranth> hey
[06:33] <Amaranth> nope
[06:43] <HedgeMage> ahh, life in here again
[06:43] <HedgeMage> :P
[06:44] <LaserJock> nope, you're talking to ghosts
[06:47] <HedgeMage> lol
[07:06] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: can you do something for me?
[07:06] <LaserJock> what?
[07:06] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: could you pull down http://www.freeverse.com/bumpercar2/ and get a full series of screenshots for me?
[07:07] <LaserJock> what kind of shots would you like?
[07:08] <Burgundavia> the configuration dialogs and main window
[07:09] <LaserJock> do you need it now?
[07:09] <Burgundavia> sooner is better
[07:10] <LaserJock> k, on it
[07:10] <Burgundavia> excllent
[07:11] <Burgundavia> anselmolsm and myself are chatting UI right now
[07:18] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: can you handle .tiff files?
[07:18] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: sure, email them to me
[07:28] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: you sent that yet?
[07:31] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: http://chem.unr.edu/~mantha/ubuntu/bc_screenshots.tar.gz
[07:31] <LaserJock> it was easier to put it up than email it
[07:32] <LaserJock> I did 11 shots showing prefs and visiting a couple sites
[07:32] <Burgundavia> very cool, thanks LaserJock
[07:33] <LaserJock> got it?
[07:34] <LaserJock> ok, I'm heading to bed now that I've done something with my day ;-)
[07:35] <Burgundavia> yep, I did
[07:35] <LaserJock> great, hope it helps. If you need more ping me and I'll try to do it tomorrow
[07:35] <Burgundavia> yep, it does
[08:43] <irvin> anyone having trouble with checking for cd defects?
[08:44] <irvin> md5 checksum matches but cd check fails
[10:24] <nettogrof> hi :)
[10:25] <HedgeMage> hi there :)
[10:27] <nettogrof> hi HedgeMage how's it going?
[10:27] <nettogrof> oh orite hb
[10:27] <HedgeMage> back
[10:27] <HedgeMage> :)
[10:28] <HedgeMage> not bad, trying to think of a short coding project I can knock out this weekend
[10:30] <nettogrof> ah. to do with what?
[10:35] <tuxtas2> Hi all, trying to set up ltsp on Edubuntu default, but clients are booting but keyboard and mouse freeze. Any ideas?
[10:35] <HedgeMage> tuxtas2: sorry, I'm about the only Edubuntu-er that isn't good with LTSP stuff :(
[10:36] <HedgeMage> tuxtas2: have you tried the mailing list? it's sometimes easier than guessing who'll be on IRC during a weekend
[10:36] <tuxtas2> kewl, Ill have to have a look, where is the members sign up page?
[10:37] <HedgeMage> nettogrof: basically, I have a potential employer who I think is going to ask for a code sample.  Most of what I've worked on lately is F/OSS with multiple authors, so it'd be like... yeah, I wrote this class and lines 14-27 of this file, and, oh, lines 19, 122, 673 and 1427 of this one, and...
[10:37] <HedgeMage> So, I'm trying to think of a useful project that can be done in a weekend :P
[10:37] <HedgeMage> tuxtas2: hang on I'll grab you a link
[10:38] <tuxtas2> ty
[10:38] <HedgeMage> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel and https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users :)
[10:41] <nettogrof> HedgeMage: You using edubuntu?
[10:43] <HedgeMage> nettogrof: on my lappy, yes
[10:43] <nettogrof> HedgeMage: Ah cool.
[10:43] <HedgeMage> :)
[10:45] <lucasvo> http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/74660.aspx
[10:45] <lucasvo> *lol*
[10:48] <HedgeMage> lol
[11:31] <blue-frog> Hi, using xchat-gnome is there a way to log automatically channels conversation as it is possible when you use "normal" xchat?
[11:33] <HedgeMage> Yes, but I'm not sure where you find the option... I've been using irssi for ages
[11:35] <blue-frog> rHah if only GNOME was not removing easy links/options from their apps...
[12:23] <juliux> morning
[02:55] <pawsilver> Help my P4 won't load edubuntu??
[02:56] <pygi> pawsilver, more info?
[03:00] <pawsilver> hi pygi , Its a Asus MB has serial ATA HDD.  I put the Edubuntu CD in it loads the live version then when I click the instal icon it starts and goes through the screens until the partitions and hangs.  It does not see the hard drive in the live version either so it seems as it cannot read my ATA HHD
[03:01] <pygi> ugh, sata discs ;-/
[03:02] <spacey> i quite like SATA
[03:02] <pawsilver> So now it likes I have to buy Microsoft :(
[03:02] <pygi> spacey, indeed, but they don't always work
[03:02] <spacey> its probably not the disk but the controller?
[03:03] <pawsilver> If they don't work I'm stuffed
[03:03] <pygi> spacey, yup, controller
[03:03] <spacey> you should at least check what chip is on the board
[03:03] <spacey> and file a bug
[03:03] <pawsilver> How do I sort out the controller?
[03:04] <spacey> if it really doesn't work out with the controller, a quick solution would be to buy a 10 euro pci sata controller that works.
[03:04] <spacey> pawsilver: if you type `lspci` in a terminal
[03:04] <spacey> it should be listed
[03:05] <spacey> and second you could look into dmesg to see if you see anything detected there
[03:05] <pawsilver> What terminal?
[03:05] <spacey> on the livecd
[03:05] <spacey> the "Dos prompt"
[03:05] <pawsilver> ok I'll try
[03:06] <pawsilver> What do I do after that?
[03:07] <spacey> you can try to look for similar problems in launchpad
[03:07] <spacey> and if you can't find it file a bug
[03:07] <spacey> i have to go now:)
[03:07] <spacey> visitors
[03:07] <spacey> gl
[03:07] <pawsilver> ok thanx
[03:48] <bddebian> Hey folks
[03:49] <ogra> hi bddebian 
[03:49] <bddebian> Heya ogra
[03:50] <highvoltage> hey bddebian 
[03:50] <bddebian> Hi highvoltage
[03:50] <bddebian> highvoltage: Were you the one telling me about ubuntu-libre?
[03:51] <highvoltage> bddebian: yep
[03:53] <highvoltage> bddebian: how difficult would it really be to build a 100% free ubuntu CD? if you just build a cd and only use the 'main' source, then it should be an 'ubuntu-libre' CD, shouldn't it?
[03:53] <ogra> you'd have to drop l-r-m
[03:53] <ogra> thats the only nonfree stuff we ship
[03:56] <highvoltage> l-r-m?
[03:56] <bddebian> highvoltage: That shouldn't be difficult no
[03:56] <bddebian> linux-restricted-modules
[03:57] <highvoltage> ah, right. i figured it out just before you said it.
[03:57] <highvoltage> i was about to ask about that :)
[04:00] <highvoltage> ogra: do you know much about troubleshooting 3d graphics. i'm really struggling to get it working again on my laptop and the docs/#ubuntu couldn't help me either :/
[04:01] <ogra> card ?
[04:02] <ogra> i heard ati has dropped some support from fglrx with the recent version
[04:07] <highvoltage> ati card. radeon 9000 on thinkpad t42.
[04:07] <highvoltage> it does seem that the driver doesn't support my card.
[04:07] <highvoltage> the thing is, it did have 3D with the default installation with the 'ati' driver. but now i can't get 3D to work again with it :/
[04:08] <ogra> hmm, that'd be a fabbione question ...
[04:09] <highvoltage> i think i'll try to bug him a bit when he's around
[04:09] <ogra> yep
[04:17] <ogra> heh
[04:34] <highvoltage> ogra: more than 1500 hits from distrowatch today, hey
[04:34] <ogra> :)
[04:35] <highvoltage> seems like our top searches revolve around content filtering
[04:35] <ogra> yep as i always say, Amaranth wil save our asses :)
[04:35] <bddebian> Hmm :-)
[04:36] <highvoltage> :)
[04:38] <ogra> hey, we climbed 6 places on the monthly distrowatch stats in the last 3 days
[04:38] <ogra> err 4 places, sorry
[04:38] <highvoltage> for the last 7 days, we've had more hits than Xandros :)
[04:38] <ogra> hehe
[04:43] <highvoltage> it's another RHEL clone
[04:43] <ogra> yes
[04:43] <ogra> i'm astonished its a server distro
[04:43] <ogra> i'd have expected a mediacenter thingie or something with this name
[04:44] <highvoltage> i'm astonished that someone would use something like that, when they can use ubuntu-server and get supported updates, etc for free/easy.
[04:44] <highvoltage> on tinysopha/centos/whitebox, you have to wait for the community to take the sources from the RH site and recompile them
[04:44] <ogra> tell that to the CTOs of this world
[04:45] <highvoltage> that's what i'm doing :P
[06:01] <blue-frog> if i remasterize a livecd with language and add/remove apps, when I install it from ubiquity will my remasterised cd be installed or ubiquity is following a fixed schem?
[06:01] <blue-frog> scheme*
[06:04] <ogra> it uses what d-i uses ... preseed files
[06:04] <ogra> ubiquity is onl a debian-installer frontend
[06:04] <blue-frog> humph what I feared ty
[06:05] <blue-frog> oh but then I can change the preseed file?
[06:05] <ogra> sure
[06:06] <blue-frog> ah better, lots of know for the non-dev I am but not impossible, good news..
[06:06] <blue-frog> lots of work*
[06:07] <blue-frog> would you have a handy command to find out all packages installed, pls?
[06:07] <ogra> look at the .list files in the CD download directory
[06:08] <blue-frog> ok ty but i meant in a console on a running OS
[06:08] <ogra> have a look at germinate
[06:08] <blue-frog> ty
[06:08] <ogra> but that requires some understanding of seeds
[06:08] <blue-frog> ah :(
[08:48] <highvoltage> s_: hey, what's up?
[08:48] <highvoltage> edubuntu distrowatch count for last 24h up to 1600.
[08:49] <highvoltage> 629 hits from heise. wow.
[08:50] <ogra> :)
[08:50] <highvoltage> 85 from google searches.
[08:50] <highvoltage> 100 from http://barrapunto.com/
[08:50] <highvoltage> the most come from the ubuntu sites though
[08:50] <highvoltage> 7492- http://www.ubuntu.com/
[08:51] <highvoltage> 3226- http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[08:51] <highvoltage> 1533- http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop
[08:51] <highvoltage> 1011- http://www.ubuntu.com/server
[08:51] <highvoltage> 972- http://www.xubuntu.org/
[08:51] <highvoltage> and that's just for the last 24h :)
[08:52] <highvoltage> 57 from jsgotangco's blog :)
[08:52] <highvoltage> 55 from fridge
[08:52] <ogra> heh
[08:52] <highvoltage> 42 from wikipedia
[08:53] <highvoltage> 33 from slashdot.jp
[08:53] <ogra> is the dvd link in the downloads page ?
[08:53] <highvoltage> 33 from google.fr and 32 from google.de
[08:54] <highvoltage> it only points to http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/6.06/, which only contains cd images
[08:54] <highvoltage> where's the correct location for the DVD images?
[08:55] <highvoltage> heh. 26 hits from http://spaces.msn.com/tomwng/
[08:55] <ogra> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/6.06/release/
[08:55] <juliux> ogra, can you write something there? http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/33812/
[08:57] <ogra> juliux, i have no clue about KDE bugs or how much manpower there is in the KDE community to fix them
[08:57] <juliux> ogra, not about kde bugs
[08:58] <juliux> ogra, something why it good if you report a bug
[08:58] <ogra> well, its the only way to really get your problem solved ... but i'm not really after having a forum discussion
[08:59] <juliux> ok
[08:59] <ogra> (apart from not having an account)
[09:53] <highvoltage> goodnight, #edubuntu
[09:53] <pygi> night highvoltage 
[09:53] <highvoltage> night pygi!
[10:28] <dm> Hello, what language is spoken here?
[10:28] <pygi> dm, english ;)
[10:30] <dm> I'm trying to set some kernel options for the PXE clients. I'm using ubuntu's ltsp server implementation 0.87. In a wiki entry (http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/NFS#Solution_when_using_PXE) I found the line to append.
[10:30] <dm>  But _my_ file /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/pxelinux.cfg/default has only one line: "DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img quiet splash". If I add "MOPTS=nolock,ro,wsize=2048,rsize=2048,proto=tcp" the clients ignore this and mount their nfs root fs via udp with 32k blocksize.
[10:31] <dm> Can anyone tell me if the syntax has changed or how to get it work?
[10:31] <lucasvo> dm: edubuntu doesn't support the LTSP way of ltsp :)
[10:31] <pygi> lucasvo, what a statement :P
[10:31] <lucasvo> we use the muecow implementation
[10:31] <lucasvo> pygi: well, how would you call it?
[10:32] <pygi> lucasvo, none, just joking :) relax :)
[10:33] <lucasvo> yeah, I am chilling, don't worry :)
[10:33] <dm> So how can I tell the clients (the ones with only 10 Mbit connection) to use smaller blocksize or even tcp?
[10:33] <lucasvo> I would ask in #ltps
[10:34] <dm> Just did that ;-)
[10:35] <dm> They only know the way describes in the wiki.
[10:35] <ogra> dm, see /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/nfs
[10:35] <ogra> you need to set NFSOPTS, not MOPTS
[10:36] <dm> ogra: What is MOPTS then?
[10:37] <ogra> probably an option used in initrd driven systems, initramfst respects NFSOPTS as you can see in the bootscript
[10:37] <dm> Ok, I'll try that (tomorrow).
[10:39] <ogra> dm, "I'm using ubuntu's ltsp server implementation 0.87 (that's AFAIK what LTSP 4.2 is based upon)"
[10:40] <ogra> dm, they are two completely separate developments
[10:40] <dm> Oh, then I misunderstood something ...
[10:42] <dm> ogra, On http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Edubuntufaq I found "Beezy bringt eine eigene Implementation (ltsp 0.58) mit. Ltsp.org hat die breezy Implementierung fr sich in die entwicklungs Version ltsp 4.2 bernommen und arbeitet aktiv and der weiterentwicklung fr dapper mit."
[10:43] <ogra> dm, autsch, das stimmt so nich
[10:44] <lucasvo> fatal falsch
[10:44] <dm> Mmh, das wei ich jetzt auch.
[10:44] <ogra> naja, der letzte part stimmt
[10:45] <lucasvo> es ist nicht mehr kompatibel zu einander
[10:45] <ogra> vllt sollten wir nach #edubuntu-de gehn :)
[10:45] <lucasvo> jo
[11:10] <HedgeMage> hi LaserJock 
[11:39] <pygi> Hey HedgeMage :)
[11:58] <finch> hi to all just loaded edubuntu on my laptop benq 5500u all seem to work except the onbroad wireless
[12:00] <finch> seem to find it ok try to config find the router but no traffic is received?