[12:04] <andy> does anybody know how to not make the clock show military time?
[12:04] <K|NgGh0sT> double click on it
[12:04] <linuxmonkey> ok it worked K|NgGh0sT
[12:05] <K|NgGh0sT> er right click
[12:05] <james_xxx> or right click
[12:05] <K|NgGh0sT> linuxmonkey: cause I pwn
[12:05] <CaBlGuY> ok what gives with no beep media player in the software install thingy????
[12:05] <linuxmonkey> now should I just format and install by txt mode cause i got that cd too
[12:05] <dontm> what is the difference between the cd and the dvd install?
[12:05] <K|NgGh0sT> meh, it probally works
[12:05] <dontm> just more bundled pkgs on the dvd?
[12:07] <bastian> there must be someone with similar networking problems, it happened to me on several pcs :/
[12:07] <linuxmonkey> K|NgGh0sT: whats your take on this, I installed with the live cd unfortunately too try it out, should I just reformat and install old school text mode :)
[12:07] <K|NgGh0sT> linuxmonkey: you're fine
[12:07] <linuxmonkey> lol
[12:08] <K|NgGh0sT> I really gotta figure out how to get rid of this blueline when watching movies
[12:08] <linuxmonkey> it just seams that the live cd is causing some issues with some config files
[12:08] <linuxmonkey> lmao
[12:08] <linuxmonkey> !mp3
[12:08] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:09] <ctothej> There is no way to write to ntfs drives right?
[12:10] <HymnToLife> absolutely right
[12:10] <linuxmonkey> ctothej: no safe way to
[12:10] <HymnToLife> no way to do it safely, at least
[12:10] <icheyne> I used to do it with no probs
[12:10] <linuxmonkey> lol you can but morethan likely ud crash the drive
[12:10] <icheyne> never happened in a year
[12:10] <fd0man> Does anybody know offhand if there are any metapackages that are designed to pull in all of the available dev libraries and headers on the Kubuntu system?
[12:11] <ctothej> Well here is the situation: external drive, with some files > 4 GB. I want to keep media on it so that both Windows and Linux can read/write to it.
[12:11] <CaBlGuY> !beep
[12:11] <robotgeek> ctothej: use ext3 and install fsdriver.org on windows
[12:11] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[12:11] <CaBlGuY> !beep media player
[12:12] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[12:12] <CaBlGuY> grrrr
[12:12] <ctothej> robotgeek: ahh cool. does it integrate easily into explorer shell?
[12:13] <robotgeek> ctothej: yeah, mounts it as a drive
[12:13] <crazy_penguin> good night to all! pleasent dreams!
[12:13] <CaBlGuY> ok, how do I get beep media player installed....   I can't find it..
[12:13] <CaBlGuY> :/
[12:13] <linuxmonkey> robotgeek: did u check that website is a advertisement portal
[12:13] <K|NgGh0sT> apt-get install mplayer
[12:13] <K|NgGh0sT> zomg done
[12:13] <ctothej> robotgeek: whats the website?
[12:14] <sibblegp> hey guys!  my display panel in system settings crashes X when I click on it....any ideas?
[12:14] <ctothej> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[12:14] <sibblegp> this only started after I changed some settings in there
[12:14] <ctothej> linuxmonkey: check that site
[12:14] <linuxmonkey> yeah i am
[12:15] <linuxmonkey> thats preaty cool
[12:15] <ctothej> shit... x86 processors only? does that mean x86 operating system or processor?
[12:15] <linuxmonkey> processor
[12:16] <linuxmonkey> no 64 bit :(
[12:16] <ctothej> so Win XP 32bit edition running on an amd64 wont work?
[12:16] <Cainsie> nope
[12:16] <K|NgGh0sT> yes it will
[12:16] <CaBlGuY> anyone???   beep media player..
[12:17] <Cainsie> does it not just run the 64bit processor as a 32bit though?
[12:17] <ctothej> K|NgGh0sT: you use it?
[12:17] <K|NgGh0sT> Cainsie: of course
[12:18] <K|NgGh0sT> ctothej: ya, it just doesnt take advatage of the extra 32bit handling
[12:18] <mongey> Instlux allows you to install Linux by running an installer progam in Windows. It currently supports the Ubuntu and OpenSuSE distributions, and work is being done to support others.
[12:18] <mongey> will it work for kubuntu?
[12:18] <ctothej> K|NgGh0sT: thanks
[12:18] <Cainsie> is there not linux versions who will run 64bit processors as 64bit processors
[12:18] <HymnToLife> mongey> Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same thing
[12:18] <HymnToLife> so yes, it will work
[12:18] <K|NgGh0sT> There has been 64bit linux for years
[12:18] <ctothej> Cainsie: if you use the 64 bit editions.. yes
[12:19] <mongey> nice
[12:20] <ctothej> it makes more sense that software relies on the operating system instead of the processor itself as the OS is the in-between.
[12:20] <CaBlGuY> K|NgGh0sT: actually, it's kinda like that already for dapper..
[12:20] <sibblegp> someone please.....any idea why the display panel in the systems settings crashes X when I try to access it?
[12:20] <mongey> kubuntu 64 dvd and the 32 cd
[12:20] <CaBlGuY> basically it loads all the way into the winX environment, and allows you to install it form there..
[12:20] <mongey> *64 cd
[12:21] <ctothej> sibblegp: what drivers / graphics card?
[12:21] <sibblegp> ctothej:  nvidia on an older nvidia card.....like I said, it was working fine for a while and then stopped after I changed some settings
[12:21] <ctothej> what did you change?
[12:21] <sibblegp> turned on monitor sleeping.......
[12:21] <sibblegp> that's it
[12:22] <mongey> woops
[12:22] <ctothej> did you turn it off, restart, and try again?
[12:22] <sibblegp> er, also changed the model of my monitor
[12:22] <sibblegp> yup
[12:22] <ctothej> hmm
[12:22] <mongey> whats the difference between the 64 dvd and 64 cd ?
[12:23] <ctothej> sibblegp: not really sure what to do here. what is the procedure for turning on monitor sleeping? and how did you change your monitor model?
[12:24] <sibblegp> ctothej:  just went to the rightmost tab and clicked the button, and then in the "screens" section, I went into the settings for my primary screen and changed the model from Custom to Dell 1905FP.....everything works fine but the applet/panel or whatever crashes X!
[12:25] <ctothej> sibblegp: im stumped. check xorg.conf maybe to make sure the monitor settings are right. maybe it created a new monitor there..
[12:25] <borko> hello! Pls help me :/ i just install kubutu and i whave problems with ADEPT it wont stat, so i uninstalled it and now i dont know hoe to install it again
[12:26] <sibblegp> ctothej:  but what would cause it to crash just then?  it doesn't make sense if it works fine all the other times......can you pastebin a good xorg.conf so I can compare mine?
[12:26] <linuxmonkey> is there a easy way to enable transparent windows in kybuntu or does that require XGL
[12:26] <ctothej> sibblegp: pastebin yours too.
[12:27] <zblach> xine or mplayer?
[12:27] <zblach> or vlc?
[12:27] <sibblegp> ctothej:  http://pastebin.com/754461
[12:28] <borko> look i am nobie in linux, and i dont understand many things, i just want to tell me how to install adept again :/ Thank you
[12:28] <ctothej> sibblegp: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/754462
[12:28] <mongey> whats the difference between the 64 dvd and 64 cd ?
[12:28] <mongey> anyone?
[12:28] <nnn0> borko, maybe: apt-get install adept
[12:28] <Seantater_> If I want to ssh to a computer -- using a key -- which computer needs which half of the key?
[12:28] <ctothej> sibblegp: i have dual head going, so thats why there are 2 sets of settings
[12:29] <linuxmonkey> adept should allready be installed....lol
[12:30] <pekay_> how can I stop the single click opens things in Konqueror? I liked the double click
[12:30] <sibblegp> ctothej:  the only big difference I see is all of the mode settings for my monitor.....
[12:31] <zblach> pekay_:  do this
[12:31] <zblach> go to System Settings
[12:31] <ctothej> sibblegp: yeah i was thinking about that.
[12:31] <zblach> go to Mouse
[12:31] <zblach> and under Icons, select 'Double-Click..."
[12:31] <ctothej> sibblegp: think the way it interprets the modes is off?
[12:31] <sibblegp> ctothej:  maybe delete them and see what happens?
[12:31] <ctothej> sibblegp: just comment them
[12:31] <sibblegp> ctothej:  k, back in a few
[12:32] <ctothej> ok. ill be here
[12:32] <sibblegp> ctothej:  by the way, do you know the name of superman's lair?
[12:32] <linuxmonkey> ok this is odd, I cant play MP3's from a burnt data CD but as soon as I copy them to the HDD they play fine
[12:32] <ctothej> Fortress of Solitude
[12:32] <V-Lan> hello everybody !
[12:32] <mongey> dammn
[12:33] <mongey> i need help
[12:33] <mongey> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/dapper/
[12:33] <CaBlGuY> alllrighty..
[12:33] <mongey> i want a 64 bit install
[12:33] <CaBlGuY> !codecs
[12:33] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[12:33] <mongey> !install
[12:33] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[12:33] <zblach> !easysource
[12:33] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:33] <CaBlGuY> !restricted
[12:33] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:34] <pekay_> zblach: thanks :] 
[12:34] <V-Lan> i need help me too
[12:35] <linuxmonkey> V-Lan: whats yer issue?
[12:36] <V-Lan> I have laptop toshiba A100-LE4 CA and when kde started the computer shutdown after random time ... hibernate .. :S suddently
[12:37] <andy> in linux firefox, how do i get to the preferences?
[12:37] <andy> i can't seem to find the preferences..
[12:37] <CaBlGuY> ok, havin trouble with Amrok...  again...  need help installin some codecs I guess..
[12:37] <CaBlGuY> andy edit, prefs..
[12:37] <xijio> I tried to instal aiglx w/ kde and kubuntu now my windows don't have decorations
[12:38] <CaBlGuY> xijio: what "type" of decorations u lookin for??
[12:38] <xijio> CaBlGuY: uhm... title bars
[12:38] <sibblegp> ctothej:  didn't work
[12:38] <CaBlGuY> ahhh
[12:38] <sibblegp> ctothej:  can you give me your pastebin again?
[12:38] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[12:39] <linuxmonkey> V-Lan: unfortunatly I dont have a laptop. the only thing I could think of is to check your laptop and power settings under  system settings
[12:39] <CaBlGuY> xijio: not totaly sure about that one...
[12:39] <ctothej> sibblegp: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/754462
[12:39] <V-Lan> i see if I quit Klaptop and disabled it, the laptop work fine after ... but it's really strange ...
[12:39] <CaBlGuY> !titlebars
[12:39] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[12:39] <richi_> where is the kernel config file located?
[12:39] <CaBlGuY> !title bars
[12:39] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[12:39] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[12:39] <james_xxx> using kubuntu dapper with KDE 3.5.3, my screen savers no longer work... can anyone help me with this? eventually the monitor goes into power saving mode, but the screen saver never comes on.
[12:40] <V-Lan> linuxmonkey: i really have it in the system settings but ... nothing ... :S
[12:40] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx:  have u tried changin the SS and see what happens?
[12:41] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: the SS?
[12:41] <james_xxx> ohhh
[12:41] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx:  yea, the Screen Saver silly
[12:41] <CaBlGuY> :p
[12:41] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: yes, i cannot get any screen saver to work
[12:41] <james_xxx> lol
[12:41] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[12:42] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: they were all working as recently as yesterday
[12:42] <linuxmonkey> that is odd V-Lan your the first I see have this problem and I myself no longer have a laptop to replicate this issue. keep asking someone should be able to help ya with it more than I would be able to
[12:42] <CaBlGuY> and you've got your video drivers all installed and everything correct??
[12:42] <james_xxx> i can't remember if the SS was working after i upgraded to 3.5.3 or not, but i think it has worked since then
[12:42] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: as far as i know
[12:42] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx: AHHHH  U did an upgrade not a fresh install..
[12:43] <CaBlGuY> yes?
[12:43] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: yes, i upgrade
[12:43] <ctothej> hey the Sources.list fiel for kubuntu and ubuntu is the same right?
[12:43] <james_xxx> upgraded*
[12:43] <CaBlGuY> there ya go..
[12:43] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: upgrading is bad, huh?
[12:43] <visik7> why when I install applications they some appear and some doesn't in the K menu ???????
[12:43] <CaBlGuY> It would probably be a better bet to do a fresh install..
[12:43] <CaBlGuY> as so much has changed since badger..
[12:43] <linuxmonkey> visik7: known issue
[12:43] <visik7> linuxmonkey: how to fix
[12:43] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: fresh install of KDE , or of kubuntu?
[12:44] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx:  upgrdaing isn't bad but, dapper has a bunch of new stuff in it..
[12:44] <V-Lan> linuxmonkey: i will write on launchpad Bugs ?
[12:44] <CaBlGuY> Ubuntu..
[12:44] <linuxmonkey> Workaround: log out and log back in, open the menu editor and click the 'save' button, or install packages from command line - i.e. sudo apt-get install or sudo aptitude install
[12:44] <CaBlGuY> actaully, I just got done installing dapper a few minutes ago myself..
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> that's why Im lookin for help with my amrok n stuff.. :p
[12:45] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: man, i really don't wanna do that. will that leave my files in tact?
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx:  no..
[12:45] <linuxmonkey> visik7: did you get that?
[12:45] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: the whole idea of having to do a fresh install for an upgrade sucks bad
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> if you do a fresh install, it will format the HDD  and install a totally fresh os..
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[12:45] <visik7> linuxmonkey: I install from the console
[12:45] <CaBlGuY> yea, I hear ya..
[12:46] <CaBlGuY> IM sure theres someone else that would be able to help ya out with the SS problem..
[12:46] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: i am serious. if that is the case then i am tempted to scrap linux. it ain't worth the hassle
[12:46] <CaBlGuY> just keep checkin back..
[12:46] <linuxmonkey> visik7: did you log out and login since you installed?
[12:46] <visik7> no
[12:46] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx:  just check back periodically and someone surely will be able to help ya..
[12:47] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: i'll ask my question a bit in a while, but thanks
[12:47] <linuxmonkey> that will fix it, theres some that dont show in Kmenu till you logout and login again
[12:47] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx:  nP man..   if I know any question form now on, I will answer it for ya.. :-p
[12:47] <james_xxx> lol
[12:48] <james_xxx> CaBlGuY: besides the whole screen saver thing, my upgrades went smoothly
[12:48] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx:  cool..
[12:48] <macd> !konwnbugs
[12:48] <ubotu> macd: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:48] <james_xxx> on my kubuntu machine and xubuntu machine , as well
[12:48] <macd> !knownbugs
[12:48] <ubotu> macd: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:48] <macd> bahh
[12:48] <CaBlGuY> really, the only reason I had a fresh install was cause I have ASuse 10.1 installed..
[12:48] <james_xxx> ahhh
[12:49] <james_xxx> i am hoping for ebuntu to be developed as i am a big fan of enlightenment
[12:49] <CaBlGuY> u would'nt know anything abouot installin codecs for Amrok would ya??
[12:50] <linuxmonkey> amrok ewwww
[12:50] <linuxmonkey> lol
[12:50] <james_xxx> cabl, no... although amaroK is working well for me.... and that is accidental, i assure you lol
[12:50] <linuxmonkey> old school xmms :)
[12:50] <james_xxx> i like xmms too
[12:50] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey: yea I know but, I can't find beep anywhere...   *sighs*
[12:50] <james_xxx> i have always liked winamp
[12:51] <halcyonCorsair> hi, whats the developer channel?
[12:51] <CaBlGuY> I LOVE beep, but I dunno where the heck it went..  :p
[12:51] <linuxmonkey> ive liked winamp untill aol bought them
[12:51] <CaBlGuY> halcyonCorsair:  go into #ubuntu and ask there, they will know
[12:51] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: try xmms you'll love it, its simple and functional
[12:52] <james_xxx> using kubuntu dapper with KDE 3.5.3, my screen savers no longer work... can anyone help me with this? eventually the monitor goes into power saving mode, but the screen saver never comes on.
[12:52] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey: whats about codecs??
[12:52] <linuxmonkey> such as for what?
[12:52] <linux_galore> james_xxx: look in kcontrol
[12:52] <CaBlGuY> mp3's and radio streams..
[12:52] <linuxmonkey> oh thats easy
[12:53] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[12:53] <CaBlGuY> ahh  that's it??
[12:54] <linuxmonkey> yep and then install xmms
[12:54] <CaBlGuY> well heck, that is easy.. :p
[12:54] <mongey> whats instlux do ?
[12:54] <linuxmonkey> and play your mp3's and shoutcast streams
[12:54] <james_xxx> linux_galore: where do i find Kcontrol?
[12:54] <beuntje> Hi there, im just installed Dapper, but now my saa7134 tv card doesn't work... gives only snow. can some help me ???? plz
[12:55] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: for more info you can read https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats
[12:55] <CaBlGuY> ok, I need to get on the ummmm  "restricyted" cevs.
[12:55] <CaBlGuY> whats the command for that?
[12:55] <linuxmonkey> you mean for the repositories?
[12:55] <james_xxx> ok i have kcontrol
[12:56] <CaBlGuY> yea, cause it's sayin the package aint avaiable..
[12:56] <Firetech> will there be a kopete 0.12.0 package for kubuntu dapper? there was a 0.12 beta 1 package for download on kopete's page...
[12:56] <mikedep333> hey guys, adept updater is asking me to upgrade app-install-data and gnome-app-install to 1.33 from 1.32. How do I know which repo component (universe, main, backports, etc) this is from?
[12:56] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto and scroll down to kubuntu section
[12:56] <CaBlGuY> ok..
[12:56] <halcyonCorsair> can anyone help me with building knetworkmanager?
[12:57] <linuxmonkey> mikedep333:  if its asking for an update its from the main
[12:57] <beuntje> does someone have some idea why my Saa7134 in breezy works and NOT in dapper???
[12:57] <mikedep333> linuxmonkey: ok, good, thanks
[12:57] <linuxmonkey> usually
[12:57] <mikedep333> well, let me just check synaptic to see if it is from main
[12:58] <mikedep333> halcyonCorsair: knetworkmanager is included in main, you do not need to build it from source
[12:59] <james_xxx> linux_galore: i have all of the settings in kcontrol already configured..... screen savers still do not work
[01:00] <mikedep333> looks like those 2 apps are in main, thanks
[01:00] <linuxmonkey> i really need to update the screenshots in the wiki for adding repositories :(
[01:00] <linuxmonkey> lol they still got brezzy screenies
[01:01] <halcyonCorsair> mikedep333: see the thing is, i'm not using kubuntu
[01:01] <halcyonCorsair> mikedep333: so i really do
[01:01] <mikedep333> halcyonCorsair: oh, waht are you using?
[01:02] <linuxmonkey> if your not using kubuntu ur in the wrong channel...lol
[01:02] <halcyonCorsair> mikedep333: gentoo
[01:03] <mikedep333> well halcy, I'd say that knetworkmanager has a half decent chance of compiling from source
[01:03] <mikedep333> ./configure, make, make install
[01:03] <mikedep333> but if you need to compile networkmanager itself too, forget it
[01:03] <linuxmonkey> sorry halcyonCorsair install kubuntu and we shall be able to help ya, but id have to say gentoo has a support chan on here i believe
[01:03] <mikedep333> and yeah, they are far more likely to be able to help you
[01:04] <mikedep333> besides, #gentoo is pretty big
[01:04] <jbirdAngel> any nice WYSIWYG editors besides Nvu?
[01:04] <halcyonCorsair> hmm, i don't know that anyone there will be onto networkmanager/knetworkmanager yet
[01:04] <james_xxx> using kubuntu dapper with KDE 3.5.3, my screen savers no longer work... can anyone help me with this? eventually the monitor goes into power saving mode, but the screen saver never comes on.
[01:05] <Shuriken> james_xxx: same problem here !
[01:05] <mikedep333> halcyonCorsair: 940 people in it and you know that none of them are into this app!
[01:06] <mikedep333> sorry, i gotta go
[01:06] <halcyonCorsair> mikedep333: ah, but how many are paying attention :)
[01:06] <james_xxx> Shuriken: did u just upgrade to KDE 3.5.3?
[01:06] <CaBlGuY> Ummmmm   linuxmonkey, I aint gettin anywhere with this repository stuff..  all the wiki stuff is for pre-dapper
[01:06] <Shuriken> yes, Kubuntu 6.06 and KDE 3.5.3
[01:07] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: im gonna update it, but here's what you do
[01:07] <james_xxx> Shuriken: i am thinking that the 3.5.3 upgrade messed with our screen saver operability
[01:07] <beuntje> can someone help me to get my tv card working in dapper??? breezy works without anyproblems
[01:07] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  ok...
[01:08] <Shuriken> james_xxx: yes, i'm thinking that too, it worked well with KDE 3.5.2
[01:08] <james_xxx> Shuriken: have your screen savers worked since your KDE 3.5.3 upgrade?
[01:08] <james_xxx> Shuriken: same here
[01:08] <dh> no wonder I couldnt do anythign in Konsole, its case sensitive ?
[01:08] <james_xxx> Shuriken: they worked after the dapper upgrade, too
[01:08] <beuntje> but saa7134 not
[01:09] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: kmenu->run command->adept, when prompted type your password. when in adept on top click on Adept->manage repositories
[01:09] <james_xxx> Shuriken: i am thinking this is a KDE 3.5.3 bug
[01:09] <Shuriken> yes, i was running dapper + kde 3.5.2 for flight 5 release
[01:09] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  I tried loading adept, says it's not there..
[01:09] <CaBlGuY> :/
[01:09] <james_xxx> Shuriken: or possibly an issue with openGL? i have been trying to use openGL screen savers
[01:10] <halcyonCorsair> can someone tell me where i can grab the amd64 knetworkmanager package from?
[01:10] <ryanakca> I don't want to start a programming language war... But, I have never programmed before, and I am wondering what programming language I should learn. Ruby, PHP, or Python. I used HTML (no, that isn't programming), as well as a bit of python and php...
[01:10] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: hrmmm ok now thats funny
[01:10] <dh> DamN i just installed 5.10 and 6.06 is out. lol So I just install over it ?
[01:11] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY:  sudo apt-get install adept
[01:11] <CaBlGuY> ok.
[01:11] <Shuriken> james_xxx: i don't think openGL is involved, i use openGL with Kaffeine/Xine and it works well
[01:12] <james_xxx> hmmm
[01:13] <dh> Thanks
[01:13] <CaBlGuY> installing now..
[01:13] <ryanakca> np
[01:13] <Shuriken> if you are not sure, try a non-openGL screensaver, i don't think it will work
[01:14] <CaBlGuY> ok, I got adept open now..
[01:14] <james_xxx> how do i kill a program that is apparently running in the background?
[01:14] <james_xxx> i need to kill adept
[01:14] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY:  ok sweet
[01:15] <Kadran> james_xxx: pidof adept
[01:15] <james_xxx> Kadran: ty
[01:15] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  workin it now..    :p
[01:15] <Kadran> np
[01:15] <Shuriken> james_xxx: killall adept
[01:15] <richi_> where can i get a .deb version of XFree86-libs and  XFree86-Mesa-libGL?
[01:16] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY:  now  when you enable the universe you will have to manually type in multiverse after it.
[01:16] <dontm> how do i fix my routing table?
[01:16] <Shuriken> or, [CTRL] [ALT] [ECHAP]  and click on the window
[01:16] <dontm> route -n is a lil wacky =-] 
[01:16] <james_xxx> Shuriken: adept(4980): Operation not permitted
[01:16] <Shuriken> oh, sorry
[01:16] <Shuriken> sudo killall adpet
[01:16] <james_xxx> no prob
[01:16] <james_xxx> ahhh
[01:17] <james_xxx> lol
[01:17] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  the one that says universe will nOt and all that right??
[01:19] <james_xxx> is there a support channel for KDE?
[01:19] <CaBlGuY> this is it..
[01:19] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY:  ok there is one in there ...hod a sec im gonna get it
[01:19] <pppoe_dude> james_xxx, #kde
[01:19] <CaBlGuY> KUbuntu is Ubuntu with K installed
[01:19] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  ok...
[01:20] <mikedep333> hey guys, is there a way to find a list of the most commonly installed apps from the ubuntu servers?
[01:20] <mikedep333> or some list of recomendations
[01:20] <jbirdAngel> is there a quanta plus IRC chat that anyone is aware of?
[01:21] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: right click on the one that says dapper universe  (NOT BACKPORT) and click on enable
[01:22] <CaBlGuY> both of them right linuxmonkey
[01:22] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: then right behind universe type multiverse and hit enter and do the same for the line just bellow that one and then apply and fetch updates
[01:22] <CaBlGuY> ok
[01:22] <Kadran> i am surfing to some sites that looks really different in konquror than it is viewd in ms ie, is it something in konq or the site loves bill gates?
[01:23] <mikedep333> Kadran: with most web development, browser specific bugs pop up for every browser
[01:24] <mikedep333> the site probably didn't bother to test it with konqueror or probably not safari
[01:24] <mikedep333> firefox will probably help
[01:24] <Kadran> mikedep333: the lines are over each other?
[01:24] <mikedep333> Kadran: i see that sometimes
[01:24] <mikedep333> or pictures are over text
[01:24] <mikedep333> even in firefox
[01:24] <Kadran> even in fireox
[01:25] <CaBlGuY> ok, linuxmonkey the ones that say just dapper under Distrobution, or dapper-security??
[01:25] <Kadran> i tried all the browsers i knows, opera, firefox, konq, the only one helped was lynx :)
[01:26] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: it should be the ones that say archive in it and that dont meantion backport
[01:26] <james_xxx> Shuriken: according to people i spoke with in #KDE, the issue with the screen savers is probably a kubuntu packaging problem/bug
[01:27] <Kadran> mikedep333: is there is a setting i can do to let konq see it normally currently i have installed ms ie on linux and run it with wine but it is toooooooo slow
[01:27] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: for me i got deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[01:27] <Shuriken> james_xxx: yes, i am on the KDE chan and i read this.
[01:27] <mikedep333> Kadran: I just strongly suggest you install firefox or another mozilla based browser.
[01:27] <linuxmonkey> CaBlGuY: also  got  deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[01:28] <McScruff> hi , i accidently resized my main partition and i need to resize it bigger again but qtparted on the kubuntu livecd wont let me resize!!!
[01:28] <mikedep333> you know that you can install all the ubuntu apps, right? firefox works fine in kde
[01:28] <Kadran> ok mikedep333 i will see the site in firefox now, ty
[01:29] <mikedep333> np
[01:29] <CaBlGuY> well, I've tried it a few times now linuxmonkey but nothin is happenein..  lemme close adept and re open it..
[01:29] <linuxmonkey> lol
[01:29] <james_xxx> McScruff: i would recommend downloading the gparted live CD... it is a one-purpoe distro just for partitioning issues
[01:29] <mikedep333> Kadran: actually firefox still goes to open downloads in gnome apps, but still
[01:29] <McScruff> james_xxx: kk, ty
[01:29] <james_xxx> the Gparted live CD had bailed me out a few times
[01:29] <james_xxx> has*
[01:30] <dontm> can anyone give me a print out of their route -n ?
[01:30] <james_xxx> purpose*
[01:30] <CaBlGuY> Oooooo  kay, now I know why nothin was changin, It;s not askin me for the root pass, it's just openin adept up..
[01:30] <CaBlGuY> :/
[01:30] <CaBlGuY> that's why I can't change the repositories...
[01:31] <linuxmonkey> lol how did u open adept?
[01:31] <james_xxx> using kubuntu dapper with KDE 3.5.3, my screen savers no longer work... can anyone help me with this? eventually the monitor goes into power saving mode, but the screen saver never comes on. should a bug report be filed for kubuntu?
[01:31] <CaBlGuY> linuxmonkey:  it just opens .. I used the run app.....
[01:32] <linuxmonkey> try this. close adept
[01:32] <CaBlGuY> k, closed..
[01:32] <linuxmonkey> alt+F2
[01:32] <CaBlGuY> k..
[01:32] <linuxmonkey> type adept and hit enter
[01:32] <CaBlGuY> that's what I been doin..
[01:32] <CaBlGuY> :p
[01:32] <CaBlGuY> this "warning" comes up, tellin me I can;t cjhange nothin,.,.
[01:33] <mikedep333> james_xxx: make sure kscreensaver is installed and right click on the desktop to set the screensaver time
[01:33] <McScruff> james_xxx: do you have a link for the qtparted live cd?
[01:33] <mikedep333> gotta go, bbl
[01:33] <linuxmonkey> odd
[01:33] <Kadran> mikedep333: YES it works, thanks
[01:33] <linuxmonkey> for me it ask to type the root pw
[01:33] <mikedep333> Kadran: np
[01:33] <CaBlGuY> says it's in "read only mode"///
[01:39] <Shuriken> mikedep333: in fact, kscreensaver works, you can preview the current screensaver by clicking on 'test', but the choosen screensaver doesn't run after an inactivity while
[01:39] <james_xxx> mikedep333: kscreensaver is installed and configured... it just isn't working and it appears i am not alone in this
[01:40] <james_xxx> McScruff: the live CD is Gparted, not qtparted... i'll look for it
[01:40] <mikedep333> sorry guys: but I haven't experienced this bug myself
[01:40] <mikedep333> I installed ubuntu and then the package group kubuntu-desktop
[01:40] <mikedep333> my screensaver is fireworks 3d (GL)
[01:41] <james_xxx> mikedep333: that is what mine WAS
[01:41] <james_xxx> lol
[01:41] <mikedep333> perhaps you guys are trying to use a 3d screensaver without opengl support?
[01:41] <mikedep333> but sorry, I gotta go
[01:41] <james_xxx> mikedep333: no, it was all working until i upgraded to KDE 3.5.3 yesterday
[01:41] <mikedep333> james_xxx: oh
[01:41] <Shuriken> mikedep333: are you runny KDE 3.5.2 or 3.5.3 ?
[01:41] <mikedep333> 3.5.2
[01:42] <mikedep333> from the official repo
[01:42] <mikedep333> where did you get 3.5.3?
[01:42] <mikedep333> the individual debs on kde.org?
[01:42] <Shuriken> ok, that's why it works for you (:
[01:42] <james_xxx> yep
[01:42] <Shuriken> james_xxx and I are running KDE 3.5.3
[01:42] <james_xxx> it worked for me on 3.5.2 as well
[01:42] <mikedep333> just curious, why did you guys upgrade to 3.5.3?
[01:43] <mikedep333> it is almost entirely a bug fix release
[01:43] <mikedep333> and I haven't experienced any bugs
[01:43] <mikedep333> with kde
[01:43] <Shuriken> and openGL works well (i play games aand videos with openGL)
[01:43] <james_xxx> mikedep333: a lot of people have... there are instructions on how to do it at kubuntu.org
[01:43] <mikedep333> wow, that was quick
[01:44] <james_xxx> mikedep333: i would maybe hold off on upgrading for a bit
[01:44] <mikedep333> yeah
[01:44] <Shuriken> i've got all the KDE repos' in my sources.list, so i did a dist-upgrade
[01:44] <mikedep333> Shuriken: oh
[01:44] <mikedep333> i thought they only put the packages up in folders by themselves
[01:44] <mikedep333> still, i gotta go, later guys and gl
[01:44] <Shuriken> ok, good bye !
[01:45] <james_xxx> Shuriken: i am thinking  i would downgrade to 3.5.2 if i could.... but that would probably cause more issues lol
[01:46] <kosh> hmm so far I have had no problems with 3.5.3
[01:46] <james_xxx> kosh: are your screensavers woking?
[01:47] <Shuriken> anyway, except this screensaver issue, KDE 3.5.3 is pretty, it's far faster at start
[01:47] <james_xxx> working*
[01:47] <james_xxx> Shuriken: yeah, i just hope they fix the screensaver thing
[01:47] <james_xxx> Shuriken: i just wish i knew where to report this to
[01:48] <Riddell> james_xxx: what's up with the screensaver?
[01:48] <Shuriken> it doesn't work in KDE 3.5.3 after an inactivity while
[01:48] <linuxmonkey> omg its rideell
[01:48] <linuxmonkey> omg its riddell
[01:49] <linuxmonkey> lol
[01:49] <james_xxx> Riddell: since i upgraded to 3.5.3 my screensavers do not owrk
[01:49] <Riddell> right
[01:49] <Shuriken> but you can preview it by clicking on the 'test' button
[01:49] <Riddell> ok, I'll look into it
[01:49] <kosh> james_xxx: hmm I have not used a screensaver in years
[01:49] <james_xxx> yep, you can preview, but they never come on
[01:49] <kosh> james_xxx: no idea if it is working
[01:50] <james_xxx> kosh: that is really the only issue i have had. not a biggie, but still a bug of some sort
[01:50] <klerfayt> how you do in kubuntu network restart?
[01:50] <kosh> james_xxx: I just let my monitors go to standby or I turn them off
[01:50] <james_xxx> kosh: well, that is not what my system is configured to do, but that is what it is doing lol
[01:51] <kosh> james_xxx: it doesn't do me much good to run a screensaver if it just puts the cpu into high load state trying to run the screensaver
[01:51] <bachstudies> james_xxx: only just seen your messages but i had the same problem until a few days ago
[01:51] <james_xxx> kosh: i understand.. bit i still want them to work :-)
[01:51] <james_xxx> bachstudies: what did u do to fix it?
[01:52] <bachstudies> james_xxx: well for a start you need to make that the monitor power save is enabled
[01:53] <bachstudies> james_xxx: then you need to add an option "DPMS" into your x config under monitor section
[01:53] <james_xxx> bachstudies: ok, monitor power save is already enabled
[01:54] <Shuriken> bachstudies: thanks for the tips, i'm going to test that
[01:54] <Brujah> Hello everybody
[01:54] <james_xxx> bachstudies: how do i get to the monitor section? i see nothing for x config
[01:55] <nico8481> re
[01:55] <Shuriken> james_xxx: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[01:55] <nnn0> :)
[01:56] <james_xxx> Shuriken: ty
[01:56] <Shuriken> bachstudies: it's done. i suppose i need to restart X ?
[01:56] <mongey> if i burn a cd install of kubuntu?
[01:56] <Shuriken> james_xxx: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:56] <mongey> and install it?
[01:56] <Shuriken> not *CONG
[01:56] <Brujah> I want to build a new deb package for ubuntu. I am reading the debian-new-maintainers-guide. And I get to the point where I need to call dh_make. Which is not existing. What can I do?
[01:57] <nocloud> okay,  i just installed gimp, but,  iuno where to go to launch the program
[01:57] <nocloud> where did gimp get installed?
[01:57] <james_xxx> Shuriken: you guys lost me on this. how do i configure all of this??
[01:58] <mluser-work> is there a way to get macromedia flash player installed in kubuntu?
[01:58] <sampan> nocloud, when i installed gimp it was automatically put into kmenu --> graphics
[01:58] <nnn0> nocloud, try in shell$ gimp &
[01:58] <nocloud> hmmm, it didn't show up for me.....
[01:58] <Shuriken> james_xxx: type 'sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:58] <mongey> antone?
[01:58] <Shuriken> this is the X configutation file
[01:58] <james_xxx> Shuriken: i did that... what next?
[01:58] <Shuriken> there is many sections into it
[01:59] <sampan> nocloud, try what nnn0 said ... call it from CLI (gimp &)  ... if that works, you can use the kmenu editor to add an entry to your kmenu for it
[01:59] <Shuriken> go to section "Monitor"
[01:59] <nocloud> where is the kmenu editor?
[01:59] <nocloud> and yea, the trick through the console worked
[01:59] <Shuriken> and add a line into this section
[01:59] <mongey> if i burn a cd install of kubuntu onto a dvd ?
[01:59] <linuxmonkey> Nocloud right click on the Kmenu
[01:59] <nnn0> nocloud, just rightclick on the K
[01:59] <Shuriken> Option "DMPS"
[01:59] <nnn0> :)
[01:59] <linuxmonkey> :)
[02:00] <james_xxx> Shuriken: ok it already says "DPMS"
[02:00] <Shuriken> nooo
[02:00] <Shuriken> DPMS
[02:00] <Shuriken> yes, that's it (:
[02:00] <james_xxx> Shuriken: ok that is already there
[02:00] <mongey> anyone?
[02:00] <Shuriken> oh ?not for me
[02:00] <Shuriken> strange.
[02:01] <james_xxx> yeah, it is already there for me. my guess is that is not my problem with the screen savers
[02:01] <Shuriken> well, i restart X...
[02:02] <mongey> if i burn a cd install of kubuntu onto a dvd will it work?
[02:02] <linuxmonkey> yes mongey
[02:02] <linuxmonkey> its what I did
[02:03] <mongey> good
[02:03] <mongey> ive loads of dvds and no cds
[02:03] <Shuriken> james_xxx: now i need to wait 1min...  (:
[02:03] <james_xxx> Shuriken:  ok lol
[02:04] <james_xxx> brb
[02:04] <mongey> !install
[02:04] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[02:05] <mongey> should i partion now?
[02:05] <Shuriken> james_xxx: nothing happens ):
[02:05] <Shuriken> still doesn't work.
[02:05] <james_xxx> Shuriken: just as i suspected lol
[02:06] <james_xxx> Shuriken: i think it is a bug in kubuntu's KDE 3.5.3 packages
[02:06] <mongey> how long does the installation take
[02:06] <Shuriken> james_xxx: is it possible to report it on 'malone' ?
[02:07] <bachstudies> james_xxx: basically KDE have changed the way it deals with xscreensaver (something to do with wrappers) and so it is a fault with KDE. However, I've not had the problem since moving from PClinuxOS to Kubuntu 6.06
[02:11] <mongey> is there problems with Linux, Windows XP and NTFS
[02:14] <james_xxx> Shuriken: what is malone?
[02:14] <Shuriken> mongey: what do you mean ?
[02:14] <Shuriken> james_xxx: malone is a 'bug tracker report'
[02:14] <james_xxx> bachyou do have KDE 3.5.3? i did not have this issue with 3.5.2
[02:14] <Shuriken> but i've never use it yet
[02:15] <Shuriken> and my english langage is too poor to do a correct bug report
[02:15] <james_xxx> Shuriken: your english is fine
[02:15] <nico8481> could anyone type my nick so i can check if konversation's notification works?
[02:16] <james_xxx> nico8481: what's up
[02:16] <nico8481> james_xxx: thanks :)
[02:16] <Shuriken> james_xxx: lol, i'm glad to hear it (:
[02:16] <james_xxx> nico8481: np
[02:18] <mongey> is there problems with Linux, Windows XP and NTFS
[02:18] <nico8481> james_xxx: once again maybe? :o)
[02:18] <james_xxx> nico8481: no problem lol
[02:18] <nico8481> ok cool, got it to do what i want :) thx
[02:19] <james_xxx> well Shuriken how do i report this on malone?
[02:19] <Shuriken> i think it's on launchpad
[02:19] <Shuriken> wait a sec...
[02:20] <james_xxx> Shuriken: ugh, maybe i should just forget about screen saves, they'll probably fix thiswhen KDE 4.0 comes out
[02:20] <james_xxx> savers*
[02:21] <CaBlGuY> I can feel it in my bones....   :p
[02:21] <phasegen> does anyone know how much difference there is between final release and the rc?
[02:23] <phasegen> I tried following the upgrade from breezy to the rc of dapper, and it only grabbed one item from the cd, it's trying to grab everything else from the server...
[02:24] <Shuriken> james_xxx: lauchpad is too complex for me :p, maybe you'll manage to do something with this stuff https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+package/kscreensaver
[02:24] <phasegen> I have very slow dialup - a.k.a. 3days and 15 hours left to download and install
[02:26] <Shuriken> i think this issue will be fix far before KDE 4 release !
[02:26] <ubuntu_> i try instal Kubuntu 6.06 but this have bug :/
[02:26] <james_xxx> Shuriken: i'll give it a whirl... although itmay be just well enough that Riddell saw what we were typing
[02:27] <Shuriken> yes, we are lucky I guess =)
[02:28] <james_xxx> Riddell: was the screen saver issue a known problem for 3.5.3?
[02:29] <icheyne> does "wireless assistant" support wpa?
[02:34] <icheyne> hmm. This only mentions WEP http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21832
[02:34] <icheyne> not a good sign
[02:35] <icheyne> anyone know how to get it working?
[02:35] <GNAM> any particular problem using synaptic in kubuntu?
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> I didnt notice any
[02:37] <Shuriken> GNAM: i suggest you to use Adept
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> ANyone know how to fix a mbr ...  I know fdisk /mbr I have a boot floppy, I can get back to xp using a dual boot floppy
[02:37] <tonygao> haha, katapult is real cook^.^
[02:38] <ubuntu_> jets tu ktos z polski ?
[02:39] <tonygao> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33985
[02:40] <tonygao> Is this new app for KDE?
[02:42] <Shuriken> tonygao: no, i'm using it for several months
[02:45] <mluser-work> How do I get mplayer to install with the adept_installer.. its grayed out
[02:45] <james_xxx> how would i make a boot floppy to boot live CD distros?
[02:45] <Shuriken> mluser-work: I suggest you to install kmplayer instead
[02:46] <mluser-work> Shuriken: I do have kmplayer installed.. but would like to use mplayer as the backend
[02:47] <Shuriken> james_xxx: a floppy ? don't you just need to set the boot devices in the BIOS for boot on a live CD ?
[02:47] <james_xxx> Shuriken: under normal circumstances, yes
[02:48] <LinuxNewbie> Hello, I am using Kubuntu 5.10 at the moment (I justinstalled it) anyway I wanna use the newer version but if I upgrade will I lose all my settings ?
[02:48] <james_xxx> Shuriken: but with damn small linux, you can download files to make a floppy to assist in booting live CDs or live USB drives
[02:48] <Shuriken> so, dunno... i dont' use floppys
[02:49] <james_xxx> Shuriken: this would be for some older machines
[02:49] <Shuriken> mluser-work: and what's the matter ? why can't you install mplayer ? is there any message error ?
[02:50] <LinuxNewbie> A lot of things in Kubuntu is Case Sensitive ?
[02:50] <ubuntu_> who here have kubuntu 6.06 ?
[02:50] <mluser-work> Shuriken: No.. its just grayed out, I have cheked the Unsopported and Proprietary check boxes and still cant install it
[02:51] <Shuriken> LinuxNewbie: First question : no. The second : yes
[02:51] <CaBlGuY> LinuxNewbie:  no, if you update, u will not loose any mof your settings, files, etc..  should work fine..
[02:51] <CaBlGuY> Hmmm  must b an echo i here..
[02:51] <CaBlGuY> :p
[02:51] <ubuntu_> :/
[02:51] <LinuxNewbie> Shuriken: I am guessing the case sensitive is a security thing.
[02:52] <ubuntu_> who here have kubuntu 6.06 ?
[02:52] <Shuriken> ubuntu_: i am running dapper
[02:52] <CaBlGuY> as am i
[02:52] <ubuntu_> i have problem when i try install kubuntu
[02:52] <ubuntu_> :/
[02:52] <CaBlGuY> so far, I love it..
[02:52] <LinuxNewbie> I wanted to get the 6.06 DVD from HTTP buts its overloaded
[02:53] <Shuriken> LinuxNewbie: But in most of cases, you can choose to activate or no the case sensitive (by exemple, in konqueror)
[02:53] <CaBlGuY> LinuxNewbie:  did you try all the sorce links??  thers several..
[02:54] <LinuxNewbie> No no i like it :D it will stop a lot of stuff. lol
[02:54] <Shuriken> what about use BitTorrent download ?
[02:54] <mluser-work> Anyone know of a repository where I can get libdvdread with DVD encryption support?
[02:54] <LinuxNewbie> Cabiguy: No there was only 1 and torrent was going to take hours. and I wanted to start to learn linux now.
[02:54] <LinuxNewbie> I thought I would upgrade later on tommorrow or something.
[02:55] <LinuxNewbie> I installed FF using Package Manager but it is an old version. How do I install new one over it ?
[02:55] <Shuriken> are you running breezy ?
[02:55] <CaBlGuY> LinuxNewbie:  here try this page...  http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[02:56] <LinuxNewbie> I want Kubuntu.
[02:56] <ubuntu_> lolz
[02:56] <GazzaK> ubuntu_:  what problem?
[02:56] <ubuntu_> i have but cant install :] 
[02:56] <CaBlGuY> ahh then yue screwd then..
[02:56] <CaBlGuY> :p
[02:56] <ubuntu_> GazzaK: dont know :/ chae 70% and instal stoped > time 487:45
[02:57] <ubuntu_> have*
[02:57] <LinuxNewbie> I do not know what the difference between then are.
[02:57] <LinuxNewbie> http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[02:57] <Xaero_Vincent> yea I want to get kubuntu 6.06 too... things are really slow right now
[02:57] <GazzaK> ubuntu_: checked the md5 checksum?  I have read a bit about a torrent being corrupt
[02:58] <Shuriken> LinuxNewbie: difference between what ?
[02:58] <ubuntu_> i instal today ubuntu 6.06 and works good now i try kubuntu 6.06 but i cant install ;(
[02:58] <McScruff> how can i tell if kubuntu is using my swap partition>?#
[02:58] <LinuxNewbie> Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[02:58] <LinuxNewbie> Nevermind from what I hear, with Linux you need to Google a lot. lol
[02:58] <Shuriken> Ubuntu : Gnome desktop. Kubuntu : KDE desktop (KDE stands for K Desktop Environnement)
[02:58] <GazzaK> McScruff: how much ram do you have?
[02:59] <CaBlGuY> really, honestly, there is no diff.  Just "kubuntu" is Ubuntu with the K environment, that's it..
[02:59] <McScruff> GazzaK: 512
[02:59] <LinuxNewbie> So that is it ?
[02:59] <CaBlGuY> I'm runnin regular ubuntu and it's workin great fro me..
[02:59] <LinuxNewbie> 1 uses Gnome other use KDE
[02:59] <CaBlGuY> yes, LinuxNewbie that's it
[02:59] <ubuntu_> i checked CD and i have 1 err :/
[02:59] <LinuxNewbie> Gnome anygood ?
[02:59] <CaBlGuY> I love Gnome and that's what I have installed
[02:59] <GazzaK> kde looks like kde, a bit more eye candy, gmone is more plainish looking
[03:00] <ubuntu_> kde beter :P
[03:00] <CaBlGuY> LOL  Oh brother here we go..
[03:00] <McScruff> i have gnome on desktop and kde on laptop, im split right down the middle, both are great but at diff things
[03:00] <Shuriken> anyway, there is no difference between KDE and Gnome packages
[03:00] <CaBlGuY> I'm more of a minimalist so, I'm not big on "bells and wistels"...
[03:00] <GazzaK> McScruff: it will only use the swap once that 512 is used, basically
[03:00] <CaBlGuY> Gnome is more basic and simpler ...
[03:01] <ubuntu_> fuck ;/
[03:01] <Shuriken> well, KDE can be minimalistic too (:
[03:01] <ubuntu_> sry..
[03:01] <McScruff> GazzaK: i just played with my partitions and remade my linux-swap, will it auto use the linux swap i just created?
[03:01] <CaBlGuY> K, has all the "windowesk" type stuff.
[03:01] <ubuntu_> istaler crasched ;/
[03:01] <McScruff> my kde is set up to look like gnome :P
[03:01] <ubuntu_> Traceback (most recent call last):
[03:01] <ubuntu_>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 130, in ?
[03:01] <ubuntu_>     install(sys.argv[1] )
[03:01] <ubuntu_> ...
[03:01] <GazzaK> I like kde, but thats my choice, I also tried gnome, but just liked kde more.  i'm a arty person, and maybe the bouncing icons won me over :)
[03:01] <ubuntu_> :(
[03:01] <CaBlGuY> LOL  McScruff yur silly..
[03:01] <CaBlGuY> :p
[03:01] <james_xxx> GazzaK: how can you make the icons bounce? lol
[03:01] <McScruff> well its an upside down version , menus at bottom taskbar at top
[03:02] <CaBlGuY> ubuntu. what are u installing??
[03:02] <jbirdAngel> do the bouncing icons cause it to go slower?
[03:02] <CaBlGuY> jbirdAngel:  not generaly..
[03:02] <GazzaK> james_xxx: it is part of Kubuntu
[03:02] <ubuntu_> kubuntu 6.06
[03:02] <james_xxx> ok
[03:02] <CaBlGuY> ubuntu_,  aghhhh   sorry, im not the expert here.. :p
[03:03] <jbirdAngel> CaBlGuY: okay thanks
[03:03] <GazzaK> when you open a app, the app's icon bounces - it amused me
[03:03] <McScruff> GazzaK: so is there a way that i can see if kubuntu would use the new linux swap i found, or will it auto use any it finds
[03:03] <CaBlGuY> jbirdAngel:  yur very welcome..  ;)
[03:03] <ubuntu_> but i dont know CD have bug sor instaler ? ;/
[03:03] <GazzaK> it should use any swap partitions it finds, same as a live cd will too
[03:03] <james_xxx> GazzaK: i see what you mean. i was hoping there was a way to make the icons in the task bar bounce when you cursor over them, like in MacOSX
[03:03] <McScruff> GazzaK: so if i install another os on this hdd i wont need another swap?
[03:03] <CaBlGuY> ubuntu_ I've heard several people complain about the k instalation..   u should try Ubuntu.. :p
[03:03] <ubuntu_> ValueError: invalid literal for int():
[03:03] <ubuntu_> lol
[03:04] <jbirdAngel> what does swap area do?
[03:04] <GazzaK> McScruff: if you use a live cd on that machine, it will actually see the swap partition on the hard drive and use that :)
[03:04] <ubuntu_> i have ununtu..
[03:04] <CaBlGuY> at any rate, im off for abit..
[03:04] <CaBlGuY> bbl peeps.
[03:04] <ubuntu_> but now i wanan kubuntu ;P
[03:04] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[03:04] <LinuxNewbie> To upgrade Firefox do I just extract new version to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox ?
[03:05] <word> !firefox
[03:05] <LinuxNewbie> !firefox
[03:05] <LinuxNewbie> !firefox
[03:05] <word> type !firefox1.5
[03:05] <GazzaK> ubuntu_: there is a way to install kde on top of gnome and then you can choose at login what desktop environment to use
[03:05] <LinuxNewbie> !firefox1.5
[03:05] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:05] <McScruff> GazzaK: its not ontop, its next too :)
[03:06] <GazzaK> McScruff: well thats being pedantic :p
[03:06] <GazzaK> nice nick McScruff
[03:07] <McScruff> ubuntu_: install kubuntu and do apt-get install gnome-desktop , then at the logon screen click session and choose either one (like gazzak said),
[03:07] <McScruff> ty GazzaK
[03:08] <LinuxNewbie> How do I turn off 2Windows in 1. Like XP has
[03:08] <LinuxNewbie> I cannot remember the name of it
[03:08] <McScruff> right click desktop
[03:08] <ubuntu_> "[03:07]  <McScruff> ubuntu_: install kubuntu " i cant :P
[03:08] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie: right click on desktop - desktop properties- multiple desktops
[03:09] <word> McScruff: I think he's talking about something else..
[03:09] <McScruff> ubuntu_: why :(
[03:09] <McScruff> word: ok sorry :(
[03:09] <ubuntu_> dont know some err
[03:09] <james_xxx> i'm gonna ask a question once more that i have posted a few times today, just to see if anyone has a suggestion...
[03:09] <ubuntu_> ValueError: invalid literal for int():
[03:09] <word> McScruff: Naw just an observation because he says XP has it..lol Xp doesn't have multiple desktops
[03:09] <LinuxNewbie> What does Multiple Desktops do ?
[03:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> Anyone here know about disabling the tap-to-click on synaptics touchpads? I've the the 'MaxTapTime 0' thing, but it still taps.
[03:10] <McScruff> lets u have from 1 - manymany workscreens
[03:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/754737 <--- there's my xorg.conf
[03:10] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: exactly what it says :)
[03:10] <McScruff> james_xxx: your question, even tho i prob cant help
[03:11] <james_xxx> lol
[03:11] <GazzaK> james_xxx: whats the question?
[03:11] <orient2000> Did you know there is a vine Ubuntu? You can buy it in Canadian liquer store for 10c$. taste good. Maybe they could sponsor Linux and Linux sponsor them in a wise way. Anybody has any ideas for that? Only fish don't drink.
[03:11] <McScruff> wtf is vine ubuntu? a wine?
[03:11] <james_xxx> Well, it seems that for some people using kubuntu dapper, after having upgraded to KDE 3.5.3, their screen savers no longer work.... any idea???
[03:11] <james_xxx> ideas*
[03:12] <orient2000> sorry a wine 14% alcohol
[03:12] <james_xxx> my screen savers are not working
[03:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> james_xxx: Hmm, lemme check. I don't usually use screensavers. :P
[03:12] <McScruff> james_xxx:  lemmie test mine
[03:12] <GazzaK> james_xxx: i've seen similar on the forums this evening, but no definate answer yet, so I'm holding back
[03:12] <Slappy> mine works
[03:12] <LinuxNewbie> word: Thanks I am updating Firefox now :D
[03:12] <word> LinuxNewbie: No problem.
[03:13] <james_xxx> Slappy: are yoou using dapper and KDE 3.5.3?
[03:13] <Shuriken> the issue james_xxx is talking about is only in KDE 3.5.3
[03:13] <McScruff> james_xxx: stupid but i will ask, by default in dapper they aint turned on, did u tick the box that says start automatically?
[03:13] <orient2000> My screen savers use to freeze my computer 3 weeks ago and I dah to reset few times. I did not check it up since.
[03:13] <james_xxx> yeah, my screen savers worked fine with 3.5.2
[03:13] <McScruff> i never use screensaver as my lappy goes to sleep 1st
[03:13] <james_xxx> McScruff: yes, everything is configured to work.... but it just don't work
[03:14] <McScruff> :(
[03:14] <McScruff> pray for an update
[03:14] <ubuntu_> http://newelski.com/~plutosek/bug.png
[03:14] <ubuntu_> :(
[03:14] <LinuxNewbie> Now I got to figure out how to transfer my profile over. I do not wanan have to install from the begining.
[03:15] <james_xxx> McScruff: i am sure there will be an update once the bug becomes known... in fact i'm sure they know about it
[03:15] <ubuntu_> meybenow somone can help..
[03:16] <ubuntu_> somone have this err ?
[03:16] <McScruff> i got another problem, i installed vmware workstation , but i can only run it as root, but on my other dapper install i can run it as normal user :S
[03:16] <LinuxNewbie> Seems like Kubuntu comes with it all
[03:17] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie: are you a linux n00b or is that just ur nick?
[03:17] <LinuxNewbie> It isn't just a nick
[03:17] <Slappy> heh i like Kubuntu
[03:18] <Slappy> very winderz n00b friendly for me
[03:18] <LinuxNewbie> I hate been a newbie but I got no choice, I have never used it before
[03:18] <LinuxNewbie> Now to install WINE
[03:18] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie: i will give you some linux advice that i have learnt ..  never use gentoo as its soooo foookin hard to learn from and redhat distros suck balls
[03:18] <McScruff> eeeeeeeeeeeeek , he's installing wine eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
[03:18] <Slappy> lol
[03:19] <Slappy> what email you all use in kde?
[03:19] <Vose> hi anyone have a muinet
[03:19] <LinuxNewbie> I wanna use Thunderbird
[03:19] <McScruff> Slappy: thunderbird, but its nowhere near as good as gnomes evolution
[03:19] <Slappy> oh and the Automatix deal is the foshizzle
[03:19] <Slappy> i love arnieboy
[03:20] <Slappy> lol
[03:20] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie: why do you want wine
[03:20] <GazzaK> pardon Slappy?
[03:20] <orient2000> My system has 26.9MB on my HD and mu Kubuntu and Ubuntu is fully updated daily. If you do not have close to it and many problems you should do fuul upgrade.
[03:20] <Slappy> Arnieboys automatix script
[03:20] <LinuxNewbie> So I can run mIRC and few other programs I know do not have Linux parts to it
[03:20] <ubuntu_> ou
[03:20] <ubuntu_> ops not here
[03:20] <Slappy> in the ubuntu forums
[03:20] <GazzaK> what about it Slappy
[03:20] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie: why mirc....
[03:20] <GazzaK> got a link?
[03:21] <Slappy> one sec
[03:21] <LinuxNewbie> I like the how I set it up with scripts and stuff
[03:21] <LinuxNewbie> that and I can see 2 channels in it
[03:21] <Slappy> http://www.getautomatix.com/
[03:21] <Slappy> install bamm and done
[03:21] <Kadran> !vmware
[03:21] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[03:21] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie: im sure if you try konversation/kvirc or even xchat you will like what u see
[03:22] <Slappy> xchat is nice
[03:22] <GazzaK> Slappy: you like it?
[03:22] <Slappy> xchat   or automatix
[03:22] <LinuxNewbie> I am using koversation now
[03:22] <LinuxNewbie> Problem is I want the "#kubuntu etc etc thign on the left side
[03:22] <GazzaK> automatix
[03:23] <Slappy> Oh hell yes,
[03:23] <LinuxNewbie> and i wanan be able to make them small windows so I have 2 windows in it
[03:23] <GazzaK> tell the developers, they love a nice bit of feedback :)
[03:23] <Slappy> i am a complete noob and bamm 10 mins i got a complete box
[03:23] <LinuxNewbie> lol
[03:23] <Slappy> i will!
[03:23] <Slappy> it is what linux needs
[03:23] <Slappy> i think it should almost be a part of ubuntu
[03:24] <Vose> I tyred to add the wine link to adapt and did it wrong then when I pressed update it charssed and now will not load up
[03:24] <Vose> any way of reseting the adapt program I tryed the two comands that come up on the error but they did not work
[03:24] <kbrooks> !automatix
[03:24] <ubotu> Automatix is a utility which helps install various codecs and applications which cannot be part of the default installation, also another utility is called EasyUbuntu, please join #automatix or #easyubuntu for more information
[03:24] <kbrooks> and
[03:24] <LinuxNewbie> Kubuntu is ? For Ubuntu Breezy (5.10)
[03:24] <kbrooks> !easyubuntu
[03:24] <ubotu> I heard easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. . http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[03:25] <Vose> is those comments for me?
[03:25] <saj> hi guys....whats the shortcut to change desktop?
[03:25] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie: kubuntu latest = 6.06
[03:25] <ubuntu_> yay have err
[03:25] <ubuntu_> ;P
[03:25] <McScruff> saj: do you mean switch desktops?
[03:26] <Vose> so foreget about adapt?
[03:26] <Kadran> saj: i like to roll the mouse wheel
[03:26] <LinuxNewbie> I am using 5.10
[03:26] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie: upgrade :)
[03:26] <ubuntu_> i try instal 6.06 ;P
[03:26] <saj> Mcscruff: yes, is there a keyboard shortcut?
[03:27] <McScruff> saj: not as default, load kcontrol and change it there
[03:27] <LinuxNewbie> Would if the HTTP was not overloaded
[03:27] <saj> McScruff: how do i load Kcontrol?
[03:27] <McScruff> sag, k menu - run command - kcontrol
[03:28] <Kadran> could any one tell me what vmware used for?
[03:28] <McScruff> then goto regional & accessability - keyboard shortcuts
[03:29] <McScruff> Kadran: its a virtual machine to run other operating systems in
[03:29] <McScruff> Kadran: so you could run windows xp inside linux for example
[03:29] <Kadran> McScruff: something like win4lin?
[03:29] <McScruff> Kadran: yep
[03:30] <Kadran> kool
[03:30] <Kadran> that's what i am searching for, linux has it all :)
[03:31] <Kadran> McScruff: will 'sudo apt-get install vmware-player' install it?
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> So, I assume that no one has a clue about solving my touchpad problems?
[03:32] <McScruff> Kadran: yes but that will only play pre-made vmware images, the workstation to build them costs money
[03:33] <zero> what's up with your touchpad chease
[03:33] <Kadran> so i will try to see an evaluation version then :)
[03:34] <LinuxNewbie> Damn I am having problems with wine
[03:34] <McScruff> Kadran: yep :), and run the install script
[03:34] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie: its still crap :) i dont use it
[03:34] <Kadran> thanks McScruff
[03:34] <orient2000> mouse wheel rolls in my kubuntu with no problems at all.
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> orient2000: It's not the mouse wheel.
[03:35] <Kadran> McScruff: what emulator do you recommend?
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> orient2000: Im trying to disable the tap-to-click on my synaptics touchpad. I've the the 'MaxTapTime 0' thing, but it still taps.
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Everytime I touch the stupid thing it tries to middle click.
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/754737 <--- there's my xorg.conf
[03:36] <orient2000> I have no idea how to hel you, sorry.
[03:36] <McScruff> Kadran: vmware :)
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Alright. I'll see if I can find someone else. :)
[03:37] <LinuxNewbie> What download manager is good with Linux ?
[03:37] <jonathan_> Hey, can someone help me out? Heres the post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187173
[03:38] <LinuxNewbie> OMG soon I will leave Windows :D
[03:38] <LinuxNewbie> Except for the colour nothign is different
[03:38] <GazzaK> and it is free and legal :)
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: Uh, I'd not go that far. It's different.
[03:38] <vinboy> hi
[03:39] <vinboy> i run Xgl now
[03:39] <vinboy> but it doesn't look any different
[03:39] <jonathan_> Anybody look at the link?
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> jonathan_: No, I can't get my mouse to click on it. :\
[03:39] <vinboy> how do I check if i'm running Xgl?
[03:40] <jonathan_> just copy and past it in your browser
[03:40] <LinuxNewbie> How can I set icons and stuff to open when you double click it. 1 link annoys me.
[03:41] <MasterEvilAce> LinuxNewbie: mouse settings should have that
[03:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: Control Center > Peripherals > Mouse
[03:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> jonathan_: I can't get my mouse over to your link. :|
[03:41] <jonathan_> I'll just past the part I need help with
[03:42] <zero> has anyone set up WPA wireless in 6.06?
[03:42] <jonathan_> I'm tring to give my wife permission to install programs and nothing else, so
[03:42] <McScruff> me
[03:42] <McScruff> zero: i have
[03:42] <jonathan_> username ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/adept_installer
[03:43] <jonathan_> but it doesn't work for some reason
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> Sorry, I really have no idea. :(
[03:43] <mikedep333> hey guys, where did you say the instructions are for kopete .12 on dapper?
[03:45] <zero> mcsruff: where did you put the firmware files?  in 6.10 i put them in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware  but that doesn't seem to exist on my 6.06 install
[03:45] <McScruff> zero: what card do you have?
[03:46] <LinuxNewbie> Thanks
[03:47] <zero> mcscruff: oh sorry, i have a centrino lappy so i use the ipw2200 drivers and firmware as well as ieee80211 subsystem
[03:47] <McScruff> zero: not sure never used that card, i only use ndiswrapper and bcm43xx
[03:49] <zero> mcscruff:  dang.  so close :)
[03:49] <McScruff> just make sure u have wpasupplicant
[03:51] <zero> yeah i have wpa and the driver.  i just don't know where to put the firmware. thanks man
[03:51] <Blake7984-> how can i manually get my nic up and running (get automatic dhcp address and such)
[03:52] <Blake7984-> ifconfig eth0 up    wasnt quite enough apparently
[03:52] <McScruff> Blake7984-: after that do dhclient eth0
[03:53] <McScruff> that will get dhcp
[03:53] <Blake7984-> ahhh yes...seems familiar now :)
[03:54] <mikedep333> anyone? kopete .12 on dapper?
[03:54] <McScruff> whats new in it?
[03:54] <McScruff> any msn newness?
[04:01] <kbrooks> bbl, bed
[04:01] <LinuxNewbie> How can I make a BIN on the Desktop ?
[04:03] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: right click on desktop
[04:03] <LinuxNewbie> Yeha
[04:03] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: click "create new" > "link to location (URL)"
[04:03] <Blake7984-> hmm...anyone think they could help diagnose and fix some sudo/kdesu problems?
[04:04] <LinuxNewbie> Yeah
[04:04] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: type "Trash" in name, and "trash:/" in location (do not type the "s)
[04:04] <LinuxNewbie> Thanks
[04:04] <LinuxNewbie> I figured the trash:/ bit but I kept doing a FOLDER
[04:04] <LinuxNewbie> lol
[04:04] <GazzaK> I just did that myself not one min ago :)
[04:05] <LinuxNewbie> Access denied to /home/dh/.local/share/Trash/files/Delete Me.
[04:05] <LinuxNewbie> When I try to delete that folder i keep gettign and error.
[04:05] <LinuxNewbie> it has winetools stuff inside it
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'sudo rm -rv "/home/dh/.local/share/Trash/files/Delete Me" '
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> :)
[04:07] <jonathan_> Anybody know about editing sudoers?
[04:07] <LinuxNewbie> rm: cannot remove `/home/dh/.local/share/Trash/files/DelMe': No such file or directory
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> Well, that would be becaue there's no file or directy called 'DelMe' ;)
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> The 'Delete Me' is a folder, right?
[04:08] <LinuxNewbie> Yeah
[04:08] <LinuxNewbie> I tried DelMe as well because of the SPACE
[04:09] <LinuxNewbie> rm: cannot remove `/home/dh/.local/share/Trash/files/DelMe': No such file or directory
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Just put the directory in quotes.
[04:09] <LinuxNewbie> Nevermind, It worked when I removed DelMe'
[04:10] <LinuxNewbie> Sorry about that damn CTRL+C not used to not using it. lol
[04:10] <LinuxNewbie> arh it worked when i just used "DELME"
[04:10] <LinuxNewbie> so sudo = root. sm and -rv = ?
[04:11] <LinuxNewbie> I need to learn these commands.
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> r = recursive  v = verbose
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> So it removes everything in the directory (and the directory), and tells you what it's doing.
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> rm is remove
[04:11] <LinuxNewbie> I am going to try and install WINE from the begning now
[04:11] <LinuxNewbie> Its like the windows RD command
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: Dunno, I never use the Windows command-line thingy
[04:12] <LinuxNewbie> How do I turn this CaSe Sensitive thign of ?
[04:12] <LinuxNewbie> it is now pissing me off. lol
[04:12] <LinuxNewbie> I type Dir and it says not found.
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: try using 'ls'
[04:12] <LinuxNewbie> But is it good ot turn it off or pgorams use it ?
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> Turn what off?
[04:13] <LinuxNewbie> Case Sensitive
[04:13] <LinuxNewbie> dir = works and Dir = NOT FOUND
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> You can't AFAIK
[04:15] <LinuxNewbie> Installing and configuraing and now I got to add LEARNING programs is going to annoy me but I will endure it.
[04:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: You gotta learn if you do anything new, but if you don't do anything new, you never have fun. :)
[04:17] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: linux is not the same as windows :)  but please trust me, it might be a very steep learning curve, but the satisfaction is worth it
[04:17] <lizardmane> What's easiest way to email an attachment with just a command line in the command shell?
[04:17] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: I'm a windows based system admin - I have to relearn years of sys admin stuff...
[04:17] <LinuxNewbie> That and no Antivirus and software firewalls.
[04:18] <LinuxNewbie> I already got a Celeron. lol
[04:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[04:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: There's iptables and clamav for firewall and antivirus :P
[04:18] <GazzaK> firecracker is a firewall, and avg free is availible if you really want it
[04:18] <LinuxNewbie> Also my Windows XP's Registry = 90Megs its full of crap I have uninstalled.
[04:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> GazzaK: Yeah, but AVG Free only has RPMs :(
[04:19] <GazzaK> and source, so it can be compiled, afaik
[04:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> I didn't see source when I looked. It may be on a different page, though.
[04:19] <lizardmane> Send me packing; please tell what channel to join to get this question answered: What's easiest way to email an attachment with just a command line in the command shell?
[04:19] <LinuxNewbie> For some reason when it comes to PC I do my best work at night, when everyone is asleep and no noise except that of a fan
[04:20] <GazzaK> CheeseBurgerMan: sorry I'm wrong, it is rpms
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: Because everyone's asleep? ;)
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> GazzaK: Rats. I was hoping you were right.
[04:21] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: i'm in the UK, it's like 3:21am now - so I'm the same...
[04:21] <LinuxNewbie> I wonder what programs I can use instead of the Windows ones ?
[04:21] <LinuxNewbie> Gazzak: Yeah
[04:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: For what?
[04:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'm in the US..its only about 10:21 now. :P
[04:21] <GazzaK> LinuxNewbie: there is a list on the forums
[04:21] <LinuxNewbie> I got part of my programs list with me
[04:21] <LinuxNewbie> Codecs including MKV, OGM, H264
[04:22] <GazzaK> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33183 - LinuxNewbie this thread
[04:22] <LinuxNewbie> LogMeIn (I need I need to use WINE for this)
[04:22] <mrfishhat> anyone know an irc channel/network i can get some wine/cedega help with?
[04:22] <LinuxNewbie> a DVD Player
[04:22] <LinuxNewbie> Media Player Classic with Real and Quicktime Alternatives.
[04:22] <GazzaK> right, i am off to bed, before it gets too light!!!!
[04:23] <sorush20> hi guys I can't use alsa in system setting for the hardware audio device how do I do it?
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> G'night, GazzaK
[04:23] <LinuxNewbie> Night
[04:23] <lizardmane> why is not the case that everybody has the same time?
[04:23] <LinuxNewbie> How can I make Firefo default browser so when I click a link it opens it in Firefox
[04:23] <LinuxNewbie> instead of Konqurer
[04:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: Somewhere in the control center...let me look.
[04:24] <sorush20> what do I need to install in dapper to be able to use alsa in kubuntu?
[04:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> Control Center > KDE Components > Default Applications
[04:24] <Blake7984-> hmmm....in kcontrol, things work good...except the peripherals,display....theres nothing in it...it just comes up with the kcontrol intro screen on the right
[04:25] <Blake7984-> i would really like to hurry up and adjust my res and monitor setup
[04:25] <GazzaK> lizardmane: you are joking right?
[04:25] <LinuxNewbie> Got it :D WINETools opens up. I love how I installed Kubuntu 3 times now and other Linux Distros and now I am getting the hang of it. I knew I would do it few times before I start to use it
[04:26] <LinuxNewbie> I do not see Defailt Aps
[04:26] <james_xxx> I just thought I would post this question again in the hopes tha there may be someone here who has a suggestion...  It seems that for some people using kubuntu dapper, after having upgraded to KDE 3.5.3, their screen savers no longer work.... any idea???
[04:26] <lizardmane> GazzaK: nope.  If it's 10 for someone in US, it should be 10 all around the world and in Andromeda also.
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: Just a minute, I need to restart my X server.
[04:26] <LinuxNewbie> Okay. I am using Kubuntu.
[04:26] <Blake7984-> any idea why kcontrol isnt letting me adjust display settings?
[04:26] <GazzaK> ever heard of timezones?
[04:27] <lizardmane> GazzaK: it would just mean that for some people 10 pm was daytime and for others nighttime.
[04:27] <[Relic] > weird bunch of people  :)
[04:27] <GazzaK> lizardmane: lol
[04:31] <GazzaK> I just had to submit that to bash.org (re timezones)
[04:31] <LinuxNewbie> what
[04:31] <robotgeek> GazzaK: you still here?
[04:32] <LinuxNewbie> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33183
[04:32] <GazzaK> have a look on www.bash.org it is funny irc snippets
[04:32] <LinuxNewbie> Damn it why dotn CTRL +C work here ?
[04:32] <GazzaK> robotgeek: yes!!!
[04:32] <LinuxNewbie> I know GazzaK I was asking what the quote was
[04:32] <Hobbsee> GazzaK: link?
[04:32] <GazzaK> it needs approving
[04:32] <LinuxNewbie> I am normally helping people with their Windows Problems.
[04:32] <LinuxNewbie> azzaK: it would just mean that for some people 10 pm was daytime and for others nighttime.
[04:32] <LinuxNewbie> lol
[04:33] <robotgeek> does anyone know how to flush dns cache?
[04:33] <LinuxNewbie> I am installing IE6 in WINE
[04:33] <LinuxNewbie> in XP ?
[04:33] <robotgeek> hmm, anyone knows how to flush the dns cache (i can ping google, but cant ping www.google.com)
[04:33] <LinuxNewbie> lol
[04:33] <GazzaK> but your 10pm will not be my 10pm
[04:33] <james_xxx> you can install IE6 in wine?
[04:34] <GazzaK> it is quote # 655689 if and when it gets approved
[04:36] <Hobbsee> ah yes
[04:36] <Blake7984-> heh, itd be just as painful if it was called 7am or 2pm...would still be the same amount of daylight outside, thus the same start of the day
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: OK what was the problem?
[04:39] <LinuxNewbie> How can I make Firefo default browser so when I click a link it opens it in Firefox
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, which version of KDE are you using?
[04:40] <LinuxNewbie> the one that comes with Kubuntu 5.1
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> 3.4.2?
[04:40] <LinuxNewbie> I am guessing so
[04:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> Is it in KDE Components > Component Chooser (or something like that)?
[04:42] <LinuxNewbie> I wanna set Firefox as my default web browser.
[04:43] <Blake7984-> ok im having a serious problem here which is killing me....grub...i only have one menu.lst file, it is setup without the word "windows" even in it...but when i boot, grub shows a windows option..and more importantly, uses the wrong lines to load linux....what could be wrong
[04:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, I know, look in Control Center > KDE Components. It should be in one of those sections.
[04:44] <james_xxx> i just ran easyubuntu and got tons of errors
[04:45] <LinuxNewbie> Do you mean KDE Components itself or 1 of those icons.
[04:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> One of the icons.
[04:47] <[Relic] > repository list?  seems I can't find mozilla only a billion firefox entries
[04:47] <LinuxNewbie> I will do it thru Open With... ?
[04:48] <LinuxNewbie> Seems to work :d
[04:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> [Relic] : try 'sudo apt-get install mozilla'
[04:48] <Hobbsee> Blake7984-: are you dual booting?
[04:48] <Hobbsee> Blake7984-: which operating systems?
[04:49] <[Relic] > I'll try that once the rest of the stuff is done loading  :)
[04:49] <Blake7984-> i plan to dual boot, but currently on ubuntu is installed
[04:49] <Blake7984-> ive laid out some empty ntfs partitions, but as i said...empty currently
[04:49] <Hobbsee> Blake7984-: hmm...try sudo update-grub
[04:49] <Hobbsee> where's grub installed?
[04:49] <Blake7984-> i suspect that the problem is due to my fakeraid setup
[04:49] <jeroenvrp2> quick question (asked many times): how do I change katapults alt+space to somethinh else?
[04:49] <Blake7984-> /boot/grub
[04:50] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp2: er...in kcontrol, in the keyboard shortcuts?
[04:50] <Blake7984-> and ive done update-grub...no help...makes a new menu.lst file, but thats it
[04:50] <Hobbsee> Blake7984-: no, as in, on the MBR or what?
[04:50] <Blake7984-> MBR yea
[04:50] <jeroenvrp2> Hobbsee: mmm I  watched there
[04:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> jeroenvrp2: With the katapult window selcted, press Ctrl+C, then go to GLobal Shortcuts
[04:50] <Hobbsee> ah, that's it...
[04:51] <Hobbsee> Blake7984-: hmmm...i'd probably install windows on it, and then reinstall grub - seeing as windows will wipe the MBR anyway
[04:51] <Hobbsee> !grub
[04:51] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:51] <james_xxx> can someone give me some help with easyubuntu?
[04:51] <Blake7984-> well, windows isnt even my issue right now....i just want ubuntu to boot properly
[04:51] <james_xxx> i tried to download the nightly snapshot...
[04:51] <Hobbsee> james_xxx: ask in #easyubuntu
[04:52] <Hobbsee> Blake7984-: hmmm...i wonder how it would have borked.  i've got no idea
[04:52] <james_xxx> ty hobbsee
[04:52] <Blake7984-> as i said, im suspecting that fakeraid is the issue
[04:53] <Blake7984-> though supposedly fakeraid should be setup and working properly (mirroring)....im wondering if perhaps its only writing to one of the hard drives, and perhaps the other hdd is the one containing an old menu.lst
[04:53] <[Relic] > couldn't find packagge mozilla
[04:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> [Relic] : Are you running Dapper?
[04:53] <[Relic] > yep
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> !info mozilla
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm
[04:54] <ubotu> mozilla: (The Mozilla Internet application suite - meta package), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 2:1.7.13-0ubuntu5.10 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[04:54] <jeroenvrp2> CheeseBurgerMan: thanks
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> jeroenvrp2: You're welcome. :)
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> [Relic] : You'll have to enable uinverse/multiverse
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> !sources
[04:55] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[04:55] <[Relic] > that's what I was looking for before :)
[04:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> Good :)
[04:56] <LinuxNewbie> uTorrent works :D
[04:56] <blowgurt> hello peeps
[04:57] <blowgurt> would this be the best place to get some help w/package fubarness?
[04:57] <[Relic] > did  use other left cllick or I wouuld  have enabled them, coulldn't figure out why they were grey  :))
[04:57] <blowgurt> for a newb?
[04:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> blowgurt: I suppose so. :)
[04:58] <LinuxNewbie> How can I copy files from a C:\ which is a NTFS over to Linux ? I wanna move my Firefox Profile.
[04:58] <LinuxNewbie> I just do not wanna restart
[04:58] <Hobbsee> !+windowsdrives
[04:58] <ubotu> it has been said that windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[04:58] <Hobbsee> LinuxNewbie: ^
[04:58] <blowgurt> cool, i've done about 1 hour of research on the web for my problem but to no avail.  i'm getting the dreaded locale error on dapper drake, which i was also getting on breezy badger
[04:59] <RobNyc> Anyone here has a intel i810 card
[04:59] <blowgurt> i've attempted to reinstall locales and localesconf but aptitude craps out unpacking some .debs
[04:59] <RobNyc> to be exact is the 82810E CGC DC-133 crappy card
[04:59] <blowgurt> Preconfiguring packages ...
[04:59] <blowgurt> (Reading database ... 86255 files and directories currently installed.)
[04:59] <blowgurt> Preparing to replace locales 2.3.6-10 (using .../locales_2.3.18_all.deb) ...
[04:59] <blowgurt> Unpacking replacement locales ...
[04:59] <blowgurt> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.18_all.deb (--unpack):
[04:59] <blowgurt>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Algiers', which is also in package tzdata
[05:00] <blowgurt> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[05:00] <Hobbsee> !paste
[05:00] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[05:00] <blowgurt> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:00] <blowgurt>  /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.18_all.deb
[05:00] <blowgurt> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:00] <blowgurt> sorry about that.
[05:00] <Hobbsee> bad blowgurt :P
[05:00] <blowgurt> am i not supposed to be smacked with a fish or something now? :P
[05:01] <james_xxx> *smacks blowgurt  with a big fish
[05:01] <blowgurt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15001
[05:01] <james_xxx> :-D
[05:02] <blowgurt> :)
[05:02] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:02] <RobNyc> !ati
[05:02] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
[05:03] <blowgurt> how do i go about investigating a dpkg error?
[05:03] <Hobbsee> blow try sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.18_all.deb
[05:05] <blowgurt> thx Hobbsee!
[05:05] <Hobbsee> blowgurt: not a problem  - that worked?
[05:05] <blowgurt> it sure did!
[05:05] <Hobbsee> yay :)
[05:06] <blowgurt> is there a way for me to look at the aptitude log to see what started this mess?
[05:06] <blowgurt> i love that you were able to solve my issue so quickly but i'd like it even more if i could do it on my own and understand what caused it in the first place.
[05:06] <Hobbsee> blowgurt: hmmm....i thought the mess was already described in the pastebin.  are you using unofficial repos at all?
[05:06] <Hobbsee> blowgurt: ah okay
[05:07] <Hobbsee> blowgurt: it was this bit - it refused to overwrite a file, saying it was in another package
[05:07] <Hobbsee> [12:59]  <blowgurt> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.18_all.deb (--unpack):
[05:07] <Hobbsee> [12:59]  <blowgurt> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Algiers', which is also in package tzdata
[05:07] <LinuxNewbie> Can I transfer files from my C:\ to Linux? I want my Firefox Profile here
[05:07] <Hobbsee> blowgurt: and dpkg has a force-overwrite command - you find it in dpkg -h
[05:07] <Hobbsee> !tell LinuxNewbie about mount
[05:08] <LinuxNewbie> I already mounted them
[05:08] <Hobbsee> LinuxNewbie: so you're asking if it's possible, not how you do it?
[05:08] <blowgurt> LinuxNewbie: you should be able to just copy it.
[05:08] <blowgurt> cp <file from ntfs> <where you want it to go>
[05:08] <LinuxNewbie> Where is the Linux Firefox progile located
[05:09] <Hobbsee> blowgurt: with the force overwrite, you just use sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/to/deb/file/you/want/to/install
[05:09] <Hobbsee> LinuxNewbie: ~/.mozilla
[05:10] <blowgurt> Hobbsee: i see now.  it makes perfect sense now that you've pulled it all together for me.  i had started to try to force it but was a bit timid.
[05:10] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:10] <Hobbsee> you shouldnt have to
[05:11] <blowgurt> my box is making the transition from fun workstation to moonlighting development box
[05:11] <Hobbsee> hehe fu!
[05:11] <LinuxNewbie> I need to reinstall all the extensions
[05:11] <Hobbsee> hehe fun!
[05:11] <blowgurt> lol!
[05:11] <LinuxNewbie> I also get a security error
[05:12] <Hobbsee> LinuxNewbie: is that for the kubuntu wiki, by any chance?
[05:12] <blowgurt> LinuxNewbie: do you have the permissions to copy the file.  does the copied file have the appropriate permissions?
[05:12] <LinuxNewbie> I copied the file, and replaced it with my Profile one. I get the Alert when I open up Firefox.
[05:12] <sorush20> hi guys can't use amarok 1.4 with xine and alsa I keep getting this error message xine engine could not initialize audio driver
[05:13] <Hobbsee> sorush20: i think there's a bug on malone about this - check if they have a solution there
[05:13] <blowgurt> can firefox process access the file?
[05:13] <sorush20> where is that do you know?
[05:13] <crimsun> sorush20: and with ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*start*.wav'' ?
[05:13] <Hobbsee> crimsun: when'd you sneak in?  :)
[05:14] <sorush20> crimsun: you are the best and the sexyest..
[05:14] <crimsun> (on a pony just a few seconds ago)
[05:14] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:14] <crimsun> agh! dangit
[05:14] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:15] <ubuntu> dumb question, but how do I start the install on kubuntu? I hit enter on start/install and it just loaded up as a live disc
[05:15] <sorush20> aplay what ?
[05:15] <Hobbsee> sorush20: a file.
[05:15] <sorush20> crimsun: please don't leave me in the sun
[05:15] <crimsun> sorush20: the command in quotes verbatim
[05:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubuntu: There should be an 'install' icon when you boot into the live disc, click on that.
[05:15] <noiesmo> ubuntu, ues arrow keys to highlight install desktop or install server from memory
[05:15] <sorush20> I did that but nothing happed
[05:15] <Hobbsee> ubuntu: er...is there an icon on the desktop to say "install' or something?
[05:16] <crimsun> sorush20: did it hang?
[05:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hobbsee: Me neither. :P
[05:16] <ubuntu> thanks, but it didnt show up this time
[05:16] <sorush20>  aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*start*.wav
[05:16] <sorush20> /usr/share/sounds/KDE*start*.wav: No such file or directory
[05:16] <crimsun> hmm
[05:16] <LeeJunFan> Hobbsee: yeah, us old schoolers don't play much with new toys. :p
[05:16] <sorush20> crimsun: no it did not
[05:16] <Hobbsee> sorush20: use aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Startup.wav
[05:17] <Hobbsee> crimsun: it's case sensitive:P
[05:17] <crimsun> ah
[05:17] <sorush20> no it worked..
[05:17] <LinuxNewbie> That is fixed :D
[05:17] <blowgurt> cool!
[05:18] <crimsun> d'oh, it's in kcontrol
[05:18] <crimsun> sorush20: so sound's audible, correct?
[05:18] <sorush20> yes correct.. where is the page that talks about it and the bug/
[05:19] <henrique> hi, any can teach me how to install firefox
[05:19] <Hobbsee> henrique: sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:19] <sorush20> !firefox
[05:19] <mrfishhat> sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:19] <henrique> i already tried
[05:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu: tell henrique about sources
[05:19] <Hobbsee> henrique: and got?
[05:19] <blowgurt> use to post the result http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:20] <mrfishhat> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[05:20] <henrique> it returns the packets are not here
[05:20] <henrique> or obsolete
[05:20] <mrfishhat> and mulitverse and universe are enabled?
[05:20] <RobNyc> http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-beta-list/2006-January/msg01282.html
[05:21] <henrique> im newbie and dont know
[05:21] <Hobbsee> firefox is in main...it shouldnt be in uni or multiverse...
[05:23] <sorush20> crimsun: what do I do
[05:23] <LinuxNewbie> Where does Firefox keep the SearchPlugins ?
[05:24] <crimsun> sorush20: how do your symptoms compare with bug 34052?
[05:25] <sorush20> in the kubuntu bug directory or amarok or xine or alsa?
[05:26] <crimsun> sorush20: it's definitely not alsa if aplay works
[05:26] <crimsun> sorush20: are you running the latest kubuntu.org packages of kde and amarok?
[05:28] <sorush20> here is my source list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15003
[05:28] <sorush20> crimsun:
[05:28] <LinuxNewbie> How can i go intot he USR/LIB Directoy in Konsole ?
[05:29] <LinuxNewbie> nevermind
[05:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> sorush20: have you installed libxine-extracodecs?
[05:29] <crimsun> sorush20: $work is having problems routing there; please use a different pastebin
[05:29] <Bilford> www.pastebin.com
[05:30] <LinuxNewbie> What is the Copy command ?
[05:30] <sorush20> http://pastebin.com/754895
[05:31] <sorush20> using what input device LinuxNewbie
[05:31] <sorush20> mouse or keyboard
[05:31] <LinuxNewbie> KOnsole
[05:31] <LinuxNewbie> I need to copy it in root.
[05:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> LinuxNewbie: Not sure about keyboard...I just select what I want, right click, and press 'copy'
[05:32] <mrfishhat> ctrl-c works for me
[05:32] <LeeJunFan> is there any known issues page/info for the kde 3.5.3 packages so I can decide if I want to upgrade?
[05:33] <blowgurt> cp
[05:34] <DaSkreech> Whats up with Ktorrent??
[05:34] <linux_galore> hmm
[05:34] <LinuxNewbie> its CP
[05:34] <linux_galore> DaSkreech: nothing, theres a new version out too
[05:34] <DaSkreech> linux_galore: 1.2?
[05:35] <linux_galore> KTorrent: 2.0beta2
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Does it suck less?
[05:35] <linux_galore> way less has DHT support
[05:35] <LinuxNewbie> I use uTorrent :D
[05:35] <DaSkreech> How  do I get it?
[05:35] <linux_galore> DaSkreech: let me get the link
[05:35] <LinuxNewbie> I changed /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/searchplugins to my ones and they are still the default ones in Firefox.
[05:36] <linux_galore> http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/
[05:36] <Bilford> yours are in
[05:36] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: wrong directory
[05:36] <Bilford> a . directory in home
[05:37] <Bilford> go to Home and Show HIdden Files
[05:37] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: every user has his own firefox config directory in his home directory  ~/./mozilla/firefox/
[05:37] <Bilford> but the pre-installed  FF plugins have to be deleted where you were before
[05:38] <DaSkreech> no 6.10 deb?
[05:38] <Bilford> if you want to get rid of them
[05:38] <crimsun> sorush20: looks ok. Got a backtrace?
[05:38] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: just remove the ~/./mozilla/firefox/plugins   directory
[05:38] <LinuxNewbie> .../home/dh/.mozilla/
[05:38] <LinuxNewbie> You mean that
[05:39] <LinuxNewbie> That goes into my profile not search plufins
[05:39] <Bilford> ...
[05:39] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie:  ~/  is the same as /home/user_name/   its s shortcut
[05:39] <Bilford> it's in your profile
[05:39] <linux_galore> a*
[05:39] <Bilford> why do you stop
[05:40] <LinuxNewbie> Says not found
[05:41] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie:   cd ~/.mozilla/firefox  then do a ls
[05:42] <linux_galore> ls plugin* ~/.mozila/firefox/:
[05:42] <linux_galore> ls: plugin*: No such file or directory
[05:42] <linux_galore> ls: /home/logan1/.mozila/firefox/: No such file or directory
[05:42] <Bilford> Just look    in   the   folder
[05:42] <linux_galore> grr
[05:42] <Bilford> Look around
[05:42] <linux_galore> ls plugin* ~/.mozilla/firefox/:
[05:42] <linux_galore> ls: plugin*: No such file or directory
[05:42] <linux_galore> /home/logan1/.mozilla/firefox/:
[05:42] <linux_galore> il2epioq.default
[05:42] <linux_galore> pluginreg.dat
[05:42] <linux_galore> plugins
[05:42] <Bilford> its not hard
[05:42] <linux_galore> profiles.ini
[05:42] <linux_galore> rqnfbkfk.default
[05:43] <linux_galore> bugger didnt thing it would be that long
[05:43] <linux_galore> think*
[05:43] <LinuxNewbie> all I see are 3 stuff. my profile. pluginreg and profiles.ini
[05:44] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: then you havent installed any plugins your just using the defaults
[05:44] <LinuxNewbie> I am trying to copy mine from Windows
[05:44] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: wont work
[05:44] <Bilford> did you even look in that folder
[05:44] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: thats why there are windows and Linux versions
[05:45] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: lesson 1, Linux is not windows
[05:45] <Bilford> Add a Search Plugin the normal way first
[05:46] <LinuxNewbie> I guess I got to open and then copy the text file or somethign
[05:46] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: no the plugins wont "ever" work there Windows "only" you need the linux version
[05:47] <LinuxNewbie> they are just normal text ones
[05:47] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: windows is not cross platform, its very restrictive, welcome to the real world
[05:47] <LinuxNewbie> What about my COOKIES ?
[05:47] <LinuxNewbie> and Bookmarks ?
[05:47] <Bilford> Bookmarks can be exported
[05:48] <Bilford> easily
[05:48] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: bookmarks are in xml or markup there in the same class as webpages
[05:48] <LinuxNewbie> so I can copy them over ?
[05:48] <Bilford> you can export yoru bookmarks as a html file
[05:48] <word> is there an easy way to downgrade a package?
[05:48] <linux_galore> yes
[05:48] <Bilford> then import it
[05:48] <Bilford> why am I even talking
[05:48] <Bilford> this is too easy
[05:48] <LinuxNewbie> For you maybe
[05:49] <rubens_> seis toa ai
[05:49] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: go into the bookamrk editor and save the bookmarks, then boot up in Linux and copy the file across then open the bookmark editor and import the file
[05:49] <word> !downgrade
[05:49] <ubotu> downgrade is, like, totally, downgrading packages is not defined in the deb package management system.
[05:49] <LinuxNewbie> Bookmarks done :D
[05:50] <LinuxNewbie> cookies and my userchromee and userfrefs left
[05:50] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: firefox settings are saved in xml files so there portable
[05:52] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: dont confuse "settings" with "plugins" or "extensions" or even "themes"
[05:52] <LinuxNewbie> I got to move over the extensiosn afterwards.. ?
[05:52] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: just install them with the extensions tool some extensions have windows and Linux versions
[05:53] <LinuxNewbie> Problem isnt installing them problem is the settings for them
[05:54] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie: there are firefox extensions for Linux that dont exists for windows and vice versa
[05:56] <LinuxNewbie> Most extensions settings are stored in the PFES.JS right ?
[06:05] <[Relic] > best java install?
[06:05] <robotgeek> !java
[06:05] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:05] <damian_> ??
[06:06] <treakath> how can I set up usb speakers under kubuntu (breezy)
[06:06] <damian_> [Relic] : wait one moment
[06:06] <treakath> ?
[06:08] <damian_> [Relic] :  sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[06:08] <damian_> [Relic] : and echo 3 | sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:11] <mianiak> is the install really quick or did i just boot up in live
[06:12] <LinuxNewbie> Damn the SearchPLugins the default ones where in the OPT/Firefox folder as well. lol
[06:12] <LinuxNewbie> Hey CheesBurgerman
[06:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hey
[06:12] <LinuxNewbie> I am slowly configuring my Kubuntu :D i need to upgrade it thought. I am just scared it wll fuck up what I did
[06:15] <rubens_> seis toa ai
[06:15] <[Relic] > there is no sun-java5-bin listed :(
[06:18] <Hawkwind> [Relic] : It's in multiverse.  I just downloaded it about 2 minutes ago
[06:19] <[Relic] > just multiverse or something else?
[06:19] <Hawkwind> -bin is in multiverse.  That's where mine came from
[06:20] <[Relic] > what is the repository line?
[06:20] <[Relic] > got every one I found enabled so far
[06:26] <kyle_> has anyone have trouble upgrading?
[06:27] <CaBlGuY> anyone awake??
[06:27] <kyle_> dont seem like it
[06:27] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[06:27] <CaBlGuY> know anything about openGL?
[06:28] <kyle_> no have not gotten into that
[06:28] <hastesaver> !easysource
[06:28] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:28] <CaBlGuY> ok, mine just isn't acting right..  I think I need to enable it or somethin...
[06:28] <hastesaver> [Relic] , what repo are you looking for?
[06:28] <hastesaver> !repos
[06:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[06:31] <pussfeller> why are my usb drives gone after the upgrade??
[06:31] <[Relic] > hastesaver,  wish I knew which one  :)
[06:32] <CaBlGuY> !nvidia glx
[06:32] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:32] <hastesaver> [Relic] , so what do you want to install?
[06:32] <[Relic] > java
[06:32] <hastesaver> !java
[06:32] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:32] <pussfeller> !usb
[06:32] <ubotu> pussfeller: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:32] <pussfeller> !hotplug
[06:32] <ubotu> pussfeller: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:33] <hastesaver> [Relic] , does that page answer your question? (It should! :)
[06:34] <pussfeller> i wonder if they work in gnome
[06:34] <[Relic] > it says it should be in some multiverse, but I got everything I can figure out how to multiverse and I don't see the sun-java pack
[06:35] <cius> cool, just changed over to kde for the first time
[06:35] <robotgeek> !adept
[06:35] <ubotu> adept is, like, a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:35] <robotgeek> [Relic] : look at that, it should tell you how to add extra repositories in adept
[06:35] <[Relic] > the failure to autsave explains it I bet
[06:35] <cius> is there a way to set the background on the clock transparent?
[06:36] <[Relic] > the complete failure to ask if you want to save changes before updating is annoying
[06:38] <IGD> i just switched to 1400X900 resolution, accept i now have what seems to be 4 screens of a lower resolution on my screen, anyone experiance this problem?
[06:38] <[Relic] > see there it is, even though he ain't paid can we fire the guy who didn't put the check for save when editing the repository list?
[06:38] <robotgeek> [Relic] : file a bug
[06:38] <[Relic] > :)
[06:41] <Bilford> why are my OpenGL screensavers jerky and low frame rate
[06:41] <Bilford> but in the Preview box, they run fine
[06:41] <mal_> tsup gent
[06:41] <mal_> s
[06:41] <Bilford> what
[06:42] <Bilford> type  tsup gents   ?
[06:42] <hastesaver> [Relic] , what's the problem exactly? If you click save, it saves.
[06:42] <mal_> how do I set up Konsole so that typing "x" = "/home/user/x"
[06:42] <IGD> besides in display settings is there another place i need to set my resolution to run widescreen?
[06:42] <CaBlGuY> anyone know if Geforce FX 5500 card required the glx-legacy drivers or not??
[06:44] <cius> CaB1GuY, I wouldn't think so, my FX 5900 didn't
[06:45] <hastesaver> [Relic] , have you got multiverse added yet?
[06:45] <[Relic] > hastesaver,  if you click fetch it don't save
[06:46] <[Relic] > or give any warning that it didn't, or as it should block fetch till you close or save
[06:46] <hastesaver> [Relic] , fetch? This is in some app? I thought you were editing the file by hand, sorry :)
[06:46] <[Relic] > adept  :)
[06:47] <[Relic] > like looking through a list of things to figure out what to install
[06:47] <LinuxNewbie> How can you open Firefox Profile Manager ?
[06:47] <[Relic] > open firefox and manage profiles?
[06:50] <[Relic] > seems to be stuck on preparing java
[06:50] <robotgeek> [Relic] : click on details and accept agreement
[06:51] <[Relic] > how?  can't seem to OK it
[06:51] <robotgeek> [Relic] : are you installing via terminal/adept?
[06:51] <[Relic] > adept
[06:52] <adamant1988> is it true that mark shuttleworth uses kubuntu over ubuntu? I read that in an article somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it =(
[06:54] <[Relic] > do I just kill it and install from terminal?
[06:55] <LinuxNewbie> What is the EXTENSION for Shells ?
[06:55] <hastesaver> [Relic] , is it currently frozen now? can't you just click stop, or close, or something?
[06:55] <Bilford> adamant1988, http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/blog/2006/05/taking_a_linuslike_attitude_to.html
[06:55] <hastesaver> LinuxNewbie, linux doesn't care about file extensions. You can name the file whatever you want
[06:56] <[Relic] > can't figure out how to click for ok
[06:56] <Bilford> "Those who like Gnome because they switched to Ubuntu should consider that Mark Shuttleworth uses Kubuntu as his personal desktop, as I understand!"
[06:56] <Bilford> that doesnt mean it's true though
[06:57] <Bilford> http://shahamit.blogspot.com/2005/11/ubuntu-founder-now-uses-kubuntu.html
[06:57] <Bilford> I guess it is true
[06:57] <ubuntu> jest ktos z polski ?:)
[06:57] <Bilford> and finally;  http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-commitment.php
[06:58] <Bilford> " Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth announced that he was now using Kubuntu on his desktop machine"
[06:58] <LinuxNewbie> lol
[06:58] <hastesaver> !pl
[06:58] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:58] <plutosek> 0_o
[06:58] <plutosek> thx ;)
[06:59] <adamant1988> lol thank you bilford :)
[07:01] <Bilford> I think Linus Torvalds uses it too
[07:02] <adamant1988> seriously? I wouldn't picture torvalds using ubuntu or any of it's forks...
[07:03] <hastesaver> adamant1988, he uses KDE, I think (not kubuntu?)
[07:03] <adamant1988> But I'm not going to argue, you're more in the know.
[07:03] <Bilford> KDE for sure
[07:05] <adamant1988> yeah I would think he'd use KDE after his comments about gnome
[07:05] <adamant1988> I really like enlightenment myself...
[07:05] <adamant1988> I'm sure that when e17 is no longer beta ware I'll use it... it's an incredible experience.
[07:06] <Hawkwind> I just compiled it from CVS on Kubuntu about 30 minutes ago
[07:06] <adamant1988> isn't it amazing?
[07:06] <Hawkwind> Yep.  I've been using it for almost a year now so I've seen the evolution
[07:06] <adamant1988> I wish I was able to understand the mechanics of installing it
[07:07] <adamant1988> I'm lucky to be able to install a program from source, I'd break something trying to install a GUI
[07:07] <Hawkwind> Use one of the install scripts.  It does it all for you
[07:07] <[Relic] > all that work and java doesn't work with mozilla  :)
[07:07] <hastesaver> [Relic] , there's more on that page, to get Java working with your browser
[07:07] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: From my forum:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=520.0
[07:07] <Hawkwind> [Relic] : Strange.  It works for me as I just installed it
[07:07] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: Took about an hour to do everything
[07:08] <adamant1988> Yeah, I'm new though hawkind, I haven't even found a distro to call home yet =(
[07:08] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: I've used Mandriva for 4+ years and just installed Kubuntu for the first time yesterday
[07:08] <Hawkwind> So the apt-get stuff is all pretty new to me basically
[07:09] <Hawkwind> I run one of the biggest 3rd party rpm repos for Mandriva.  Will soon have deb stuff on it if all goes well
[07:09] <adamant1988> yeah, I favor the from source installations... I'm a beta tester type and most of the programs I'll want to install won't be found in a repo.
[07:10] <adamant1988> installing drivers or other packages that are in the repos is fine by me, but a lot of what I want won't be there
[07:10] <Bilford> I think Torvalds is using FC5
[07:10] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: Well if you need help with E17, let me know or join #E if I'm not around.  Those guys there are superb
[07:10] <adamant1988> I know they are, I go there some.
[07:10] <LinuxNewbie> how can I totally remove all the firefox stuff ?
[07:10] <hastesaver> LinuxNewbie, why?
[07:10] <adamant1988> I'm sure I want enlightenment, but I can't find my home distro, I really need some help sorting that out.
[07:11] <LinuxNewbie> I somehow f'ed up.
[07:11] <LinuxNewbie> it remembers my profile but i cannot change anythign on it
[07:11] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: Try many and see what's best to you and what feels most comfortable
[07:11] <hastesaver> LinuxNewbie, you mean, you can't use your profile, although it exists?
[07:11] <adamant1988> Yeah, recently elive has made me feel more at home than anything, but it's not stable enough for me
[07:12] <adamant1988> I was using debian sarge for a while, ran elive and fell inlove with enlightenment.  I'm still distro shopping for something that suits my needs.
[07:13] <Hawkwind> I have really gotten to like Kubuntu over the past couple of days.  I seriously foresee myself changing my main distro from Mandriva to Kubuntu
[07:13] <adamant1988> I am hoping that kubuntu will supply me with a user friendly experience.
[07:13] <LinuxNewbie> I can use the profile, I just cannot edit it.
[07:13] <adamant1988> My main needs are just being able to play web games, install programs, and listen to my music.
[07:14] <hastesaver> LinuxNewbie, you see your bookmarks, but you can'
[07:14] <LinuxNewbie> Also how do you unmouth a HDD ?
[07:14] <hastesaver> linux_galore, but you can't add new bookmarks?
[07:14] <LinuxNewbie> I can see the bookmarks and the extensions which I copied from my C:\ NTFS drive but its f'ed now.
[07:14] <hastesaver> LinuxNewbie, was this profile ever working on Linux in the first place?
[07:15] <LinuxNewbie> not really
[07:15] <LinuxNewbie> I just started to use Kubuntu
[07:15] <LinuxNewbie> at the begining it didnt even work probbaly i messed around with it
[07:15] <LinuxNewbie> Now when I click Firefox instead ofthe fox logo it has a X
[07:16] <hastesaver> LinuxNewbie, if you just copied it over from your windows partition, the profile probably has hardcoded links to the windows directory. And it doesn't let you edit the files mounted on the ntfs system
[07:16] <LinuxNewbie> I should of just copied over the bookmarks, cookies, prefs and userchrome
[07:17] <adamant1988> hawk if you don't mind I'll probably sign up on your forums :)
[07:17] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: I don't mind at all.  Feel free :)
[07:17] <adamant1988> I'm going to lay down now... it's 1 am... g'night all.
[07:17] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: Another good set of new forums that are growing, http://tuxforums.org
[07:17] <Hawkwind> adamant1988: Night, sleep well
[07:18] <_ole> G'day all, from Queensland Australia, I need help, boy do I need help, so HELP!
[07:18] <Hawkwind> _ole: Just ask your question
[07:19] <Hawkwind> We are far from mind readers, though I do have espN
[07:19] <Bilford> Im a mind reader
[07:19] <Bilford> he wants to know why his screen resolution cant change
[07:20] <_ole> yes, sorry, I have been using Ubuntu for about 9 mths, installed Kubuntu separately, all working well, but now I would like to upgrade to Dapper Drake
[07:20] <[Relic] > maybe I just need to install the other java package
[07:20] <Hawkwind> Bilford: Close :P
[07:20] <_ole> but I don't understand the explanations on how t o do so
[07:20] <Bilford> :/
[07:20] <jeffry> Hi
[07:21] <Bilford> tj9991, how's that storage problem coming, Champ
[07:21] <jeffry> Can somebody tell me where to download the last version of the automatix?
[07:21] <_ole> so, how do I upgrade from Hoary Hedgehog to Kubuntu Dapper Drake?
[07:21] <LinuxNewbie> How do you umount a HDD ?
[07:21] <jeffry> for the last release of kubuntu?
[07:21] <cius> I just got the xserver-xorg-dev package through Adept but I have a configure script still telling me it can't find them, do I need to edit a path to include /usr/include/xorg?
[07:21] <Hawkwind> LinuxNewbie: mount /dev/hdx /some/mount/point
[07:21] <LinuxNewbie> I said unmount
[07:21] <Hawkwind> LinuxNewbie: Replace hdx with something like hda1 or whatever.  And make sure that /some/mount/point is an actual directory
[07:22] <Hawkwind> LinuxNewbie: Ohhhh, umount /some/mount/point
[07:23] <LinuxNewbie> I can right click and do it. lol
[07:23] <Bilford> _ole, can you do a fresh install instead
[07:23] <LinuxNewbie> Now to fix my Firefox problem.
[07:24] <dr_willis> Egads - dont use AUtomatix. :) please
[07:24] <_ole> hi Bilford, don't know, what will happen to my data in that case?
[07:24] <Bilford> youd lose it
[07:24] <Hawkwind> _ole: Is your /home on a seperate partition ?
[07:24] <Hawkwind> _ole: If it is, you can save that info and then format everything else
[07:25] <_ole> 1 Linux partition
[07:25] <Hawkwind> _ole: That way you don't lose your app config settings, or you won't lose most of them
[07:25] <Hawkwind> _ole: Then you'll lose your info as Bilford stated :/
[07:25] <Hawkwind> Learn to partition a drive and use put /home and / on seperate partitions
[07:26] <dr_willis> or seperate hard drives. :P
[07:26] <_ole> so if I carefully made sure I had backup of everygthing and then installed the new version from scratch, is that what you are suggesting?
[07:26] <Hawkwind> dr_willis: Yeah, that works too :)
[07:26] <Hawkwind> _ole: You could do that, as long as you don't format the backups
[07:26] <Hawkwind> Heh
[07:26] <Hawkwind> _ole: Then you can copy over stuff you need
[07:28] <Bilford> should he upgrade from Hoary to Dapper?
[07:28] <_ole> so, you suggest that I reformat the Linux partition and install Dapper from scratch (after I have burned my data to CD)
[07:28] <dr_willis> i advice a clean reinstall.
[07:28] <dr_willis> advise even
[07:28] <dr_willis> :P
[07:28] <Hawkwind> _ole: Yes
[07:29] <Hawkwind> I'm totally new to Ubuntu, but have used Mandriva for 4+ years and that's what we always suggest is to do a fresh install.  It's just cleaner and smoother that way
[07:29] <_ole> ok, is this because I never upgraded from Hoary to Breezy?
[07:30] <Bilford> even from Breezy to Dapper, fresh install is always best
[07:30] <Bilford> imo
[07:31] <[Relic] > now Ithink I am down to mass file transfers from drive to drive  :)
[07:31] <_ole> what? so every 6 mths new version, reinstall everything? Oh, not convenient
[07:31] <Bilford> no, you can upgrade
[07:31] <[Relic] > more convenient than running windows and reinstalling the same version every month  :)
[07:32] <_ole> yeah, but you just suggested that it was best to reinstall
[07:32] <LinuxNewbie> root@DESKTOP:/opt/firefox# firefox /profilemanager
[07:32] <LinuxNewbie> You should really not run firefox through sudo WITHOUT the -H option.
[07:32] <LinuxNewbie> Anyway, I'll do as if you did use the -H option.
[07:32] <LinuxNewbie> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:32] <LinuxNewbie> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:32] <LinuxNewbie> lol
[07:32] <LinuxNewbie> Sounds like a nice friend. lol
[07:32] <cius> where would activate focus follows mouse or sloppy focus?
[07:32] <_ole> so true, who wants Windoze anyway?
[07:32] <Bilford> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186058&highlight=upgrade+hoary+dapper
[07:32] <Bilford> "If you go from Hoary to Dapper via dist-upgrade, you will end up with a broken system. Do a clean install (from the disk.) Don't forget to back up you data before you do any upgrade."
[07:33] <Bilford> So, it looks like youd have to first upgrade to Breezy, then upgrade again to Dapper
[07:33] <vinboy> Bilford: is it possible to get a list of currenly installed packages and install them back after the clean install?
[07:33] <Bilford> idk
[07:34] <_ole> ok, thanks all, be seeing you around
[07:34] <[Relic] > cp -r * /puteverythinghere   ?  will that get everything in the subdirs?
[07:35] <[Relic] > need to make sure it copys everything including subdir/subdir
[07:36] <Bilford> vinboy, you can run Adept, and only have it show installed packages.  I dont know if thats what you mean though
[07:36] <LinuxNewbie> I think that was a good mess around :D I am going to format the partition and install new Kubuntu
[07:36] <Bilford> theres probably a console command that prints out a list
[07:36] <_ole> quit
[07:37] <hastesaver> [Relic] , it will, but it won't go into the hidden files/directories (starting with a .)
[07:37] <hastesaver> [Relic] , better to do "cp -R directory1 /path/to/direcotory2" from a level up
[07:38] <vinboy> Bilford: thanks
[07:40] <[Relic] > do I want -a?
[07:40] <[Relic] > xfering my old home/relic to my new home/relic
[07:41] <hastesaver> [Relic] , I've never used -a, but it looks nice. Try it :)
[07:43] <[Relic] > probably be able to take a nap now while this xfers :)
[07:44] <Steven_M> does the final dapper have a text installer as well as a gui one?
[07:44] <hastesaver> Steven_M, different CDs.
[07:44] <Steven_M> oh ok
[07:45] <Steven_M> thanks
[07:45] <[Relic] > or maybe start it again and figure out why it didn't go in the correct place first
[07:51] <cius> is it possible to rearrange the order of the items on the panel?
[07:52] <Lynoure> cius: sure it is
[07:53] <Lynoure> cius: right-click, choose Move and move.
[07:53] <cius> when i right click the app icons and the kmenu and such I get an option to move, but not when I right click the trash bin or clock
[07:54] <Lynoure> cius:oh, those are a different thing
[07:54] <Lynoure> cius: iirc, you can delete the clokc and make a new one elsewhere
[07:55] <Lynoure> not sure about trashbin
[07:55] <cius> would it be the same with the other things, pager, trash, systray?
[07:55] <cius> oh ok
[07:55] <Lynoure> systray moves normally, once you find the right place to click on
[07:56] <Lynoure> hmm, actually, clock and trash, too
[07:56] <Lynoure> im for the tiny arrow
[07:56] <cius> :-) so I'm just not clicking in the right place
[07:56] <Lynoure> s/im/aim
[07:57] <Lynoure> but I have to get away from the computer for a bit, back in 15min or so
[07:57] <cius> thank
[07:57] <cius> thanks* for the help
[08:10] <lasindi> Is anyone else still having the problem where if you try to configure Samba sharing in "Administrator mode," all the buttons are grayed out?
[08:16] <PPower> kdesu kcontrol
[08:17] <lasindi> PPower: what does that do?
[08:17] <lasindi> Just run it as root?
[08:18] <Bilford> tj9991, when are you installing Kubuntu
[08:18] <PPower> lasindi: it runs kcontrol as root. I find the admin mode buttons sometimes break
[08:20] <lasindi> PPower: this bug has been in there since at least Breezy; are developers aware of this bug?
[08:22] <Bilford> do this
[08:22] <Bilford> go to System SEttings
[08:22] <Bilford> or wherever the menu editor is
[08:22] <Bilford> and add  Settings
[08:23] <Bilford> you get the whole KControl right there in the STart Menu
[08:25] <lasindi> Okay, I'll try that soon when I get my Kubuntu machine up
[08:41] <osh_> So, standard upgrade procedure works? Replace breezy with dapper in sources.list and apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:42] <hastesaver> !upgrade
[08:42] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[08:42] <hastesaver> osh_, in short, yes
[08:42] <hastesaver> osh_, but take care about your extra (non-official) repos
[08:44] <Bilford> tj9991, when are you installing Kubuntu
[08:44] <osh_> hastesaver: Thanks. Hopefulle nogign big will break. ;-)
[08:47] <Bilford> do most people use Icon view?
[08:47] <Bilford> or Treeview
[08:47] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:48] <hastesaver> Bilford, I use ls :)
[08:48] <Bilford> you dont like graphical user interfaces?
[08:50] <cfraz89> hi
[08:51] <PPower> cfraz89: hi again. its working like a breeze now
[08:51] <cfraz89> hi PPower, cool!
[08:51] <cfraz89> what was wrong?
[08:52] <PPower> cfraz89: it turned out the nvidia run and the ubuntu script changed the pciid as well as the driver. setting it manually fixed it.
[08:52] <cfraz89> oh ok
[08:52] <cfraz89> thats interesting
[08:52] <cfraz89> did you work out where that radeon config came from?
[08:53] <PPower> its a known problem. i made a bug report and put a howto up on ubuntu forums. one person said it was helpful. no idea how radeon came about
[08:53] <cfraz89> lol ok
[08:53] <cfraz89> can i see the howto?
[08:53] <PPower> www.ubuntuforums.org. its in the howto section
[08:54] <cfraz89> thanks
[08:54] <cfraz89> glad its fixed
[08:54] <PPower> (i actually sent a bug report to nvidia. oops)
[08:55] <cfraz89> lol, it was ubuntu problem though?
[08:56] <PPower> yeah. i dont know why the nvidia one went bad though
[08:56] <cfraz89> hmm
[08:57] <cfraz89> did you see the post by tseliot?
[08:57] <PPower> yeah
[08:57] <PPower> doesnt the run installer use that
[08:57] <cfraz89> i think so
[08:57] <cfraz89> i dont know why ubuntu bundles its own tool
[08:57] <hastesaver> Bilford, I'm more comfortable with the cli, that's all. It's the only thing that's consistent across fvwm, gnome, kde and ratpoison :)
[08:58] <PPower> cfraz89: to help n00bs. hopefully my bug report on launchpad will fix it
[08:58] <cfraz89> yeah
[08:59] <cfraz89> PPower: nvidia-settings conflicts with nvidia-glx because the nvidia-settings package is for the legacy drivers
[08:59] <cfraz89> it is bundled with the new ones
[08:59] <PPower> what i really like about linux is that you can install millions of packages and only use a couple of hundred mb of space
[08:59] <cfraz89> yeah
[08:59] <PPower> cfraz89: right you are. found it in /usr/bin
[09:00] <cfraz89> cool
[09:01] <cfraz89> its usefule
[09:02] <PPower> whoops just compiled a windows app instead of a linux one
[09:02] <cfraz89> lol
[09:02] <PPower> or is supertux-sharp windows only?
[09:03] <cfraz89> supertux-sharp?
[09:03] <cfraz89> what is sharp for?
[09:03] <PPower> this new editor for supertux. written in mono csharp
[09:03] <cfraz89> cool
[09:04] <cfraz89> how is supertux coming along?
[09:04] <cfraz89> i liked 0.1.2
[09:04] <cfraz89> and i cant wait until you can bellyslide and hover
[09:04] <cfraz89> the sketches are so cute
[09:04] <PPower> pretty good actually. world 2 is pretty much broken but world one is now 50x better
[09:04] <PPower> and they got rid of the editor
[09:04] <cfraz89> cool
[09:05] <cfraz89> ill check it out
[09:05] <cfraz89> my friends are addicted to it too
[09:07] <PPower> the music is better now
[09:07] <cfraz89> cool
[09:10] <cfraz89> PPower: what version is that?
[09:10] <PPower> 0.2-svn
[09:10] <cfraz89> ah ok
[09:10] <hastesaver> the music was already awesome, I thought
[09:10] <cfraz89> lol yeah i liked it
[09:10] <PPower> yeah. they made it better. along with the graphics
[09:11] <hastesaver> When will a new version of Supertux hit the repos? I just finished playing it yesterday :)
[09:11] <PPower> could be a long time. world 2 is mostly broken and so is the movie
[09:12] <PPower> there are a few playable levels in world 2 but dont try nolocks castle
[09:13] <cfraz89> does it crash?
[09:14] <PPower> no. does throw out a lot of errors but no crash.
[09:14] <PPower> it was complaining about the squirrel vm in the movie
[09:14] <cfraz89> oh
[09:15] <PPower> you should get a svn build (opengl needed)
[09:15] <cfraz89> i will
[09:16] <PPower> NOO! i broke it. i am stuck in a little hole that you cant get out
[09:32] <_tom> ok so
[09:32] <ubuntu> hi gyus
[09:33] <nico8481> re
[09:33] <ubuntu> i can't access my hard-drive .. can anyone help?
[09:33] <ubuntu> i am in live kubuntu
[09:33] <vinboy> anyone insteall Steam using Wine?
[09:33] <ubuntu> "return code from mount was 32" .. mount failure
[09:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu, what did you use to mount the hdds?
[09:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> vinboy, i did, but ages ago
[09:33] <vinboy> nice nickname
[09:34] <vinboy> ok Kamping_Kaiser , i think this is problem with the new wine :D
[09:34] <ubuntu> Kamping .. they are just ext2 .. created a few months ago with a xubuntu install
[09:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu, should be able to 'mount /dev/hdx /mnt/'
[09:34] <ubuntu> they worked fine until I turned it off one too many times without shutting down correctly
[09:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah
[09:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> fsk
[09:35] <_tom> kubuntu is stupid
[09:35] <_tom> 'update adept to dapper'
[09:35] <_tom> ok i replaced breezy with dapper in adept, all over the distribution
[09:35] <_tom> there are no no instances of breezy
[09:35] <_tom> and yet it still says no updates after i fetch updates
[09:36] <_tom> no upgrades*
[09:36] <ubuntu> hey .. c'mon guys ... i was previously used to used 'toram' installs :(
[09:36] <_tom> it seems to ''forgot'
[09:36] <ubuntu> EXT2-fs: sda1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).
[09:37] <uwo> does anyone know any ftp server with QT GUI?
[09:37] <ubuntu> Kamping .. the standard mount command does not work
[09:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu, sounds like you need to fsk your drive
[09:38] <ubuntu> Kamping .. do you think there is any chance i can get off some data?
[09:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu, probably.. after you do a file system check
[09:39] <ubuntu> oh .. is that fsk .. let me google it
[09:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu, open a a terminal and type "man fsck"
[09:43] <ubuntu> Kamping .. thanks ..err so many options .. care to share the short-cut command?
[09:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu, if yuour *sure* its  ext2 type 'fsck.ext2 /dev/xxx'
[09:49] <ubuntu> ok here goes
[09:50] <ubuntu> in fact how can i check the filesystem type?
[09:52] <ubuntu> no i am sure it is ext2
[09:52] <ubuntu> here goes
[09:52] <PPower> i think i found a security flaw in SAMBA or is this by design: i can access the C$ share
[09:52] <aseigo> ubuntu: df -T
[09:52] <UzzaDead> evening all, might someone know off the top of their head the command to list pcmcia cards in my system currently?
[09:54] <crazy_penguin> goo day to all!
[09:55] <ubuntu> Kamping_Kaiser ... hey thanks .. that was easy .. took about 0.0002 seconds and all is good !?
[09:55] <cfraz89> PPower: i think it depends how network is set up
[09:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu, try mounting it again
[09:55] <PPower> cfraz89: it require authentication but i can get in! this is a huge security flaw!
[09:56] <ubuntu> Kamping .. yes all is fine. thank you :)
[09:56] <PPower> im going to report this to microsoft
[09:56] <cfraz89> lol
[09:56] <cfraz89> PPower: there must be something wrong with network setup
[09:56] <vinboy> no
[09:56] <vinboy> let the microsoft bugs get out
[09:56] <cfraz89> i dont think samba is the hackmaster
[09:56] <vinboy> lets the corporate lose money
[09:56] <vinboy> and they will switch to linux
[09:57] <cfraz89> lol
[09:57] <cfraz89> ok
[09:57] <vinboy> tat is the way
[09:57] <PPower> cfraz89: C$ is a internal share that is used for NTAUTHORITY/SYSTEM to access the hard drive. its the way windows works.
[09:57] <vinboy> ppl wouldn't change if there is nothing wrong with it
[09:57] <cfraz89> ah ok
[09:57] <cfraz89> thats cool
[09:57] <vinboy> corporate will learn their lesson when they lose 10 millions bcoz of microsoft
[09:57] <cfraz89> yeah
[09:58] <vinboy> hit them hard in their nuts
[09:58] <PPower> it requires a administrator user and pass but for any average hacker thats just a walkin the park
[10:03] <PPower> cfraz89: got around to compiling supertux yet?
[10:06] <word> how do you downgrade a package?
[10:11] <PPower> word: i dont know how you do it in adept. you can in synaptic
[10:11] <word> PPower: Argh..I think the newest nvidia-glx package is creating problems for me..
[10:12] <PPower> word: you are not alone. i had a large ammount of trouble. whats the bug
[10:12] <Bilford> tj9991, when are you installing Kubuntu
[10:12] <word> when I have a window full screen the kde panel goes fuzzy...its wierd...from further investigation I
[10:13] <word> I've noticed that when in opera and the background is anything other than white the kde panel is fine.
[10:13] <PPower> word: check the X log.
[10:13] <word> PPower: what's the path to that agian?
[10:13] <PPower> use KSystemLog
[10:15] <brosio> anyone have try xgl ?
[10:16] <brosio> they fix the proplems with systray on kdelibs?
[10:16] <Bilford> I tried but gave up
[10:16] <PPower> word: do you see any warnings or errors (WW or EE)
[10:16] <word> PPower: There was nothing in the x log but whenever I open an app in terminal i get this error - http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/750974
[10:17] <PPower> word: are you running that app as root?
[10:17] <word> it happens no matter how i run it
[10:17] <word> Hmm..when i did that i got this error in the X log -information	AUDIT: Sat Jun  3 01:16:02 2006: 4720 X: client 36 rejected from local host
[10:18] <PPower> cfraz89: what do you think of words problem
[10:18] <PPower> cfraz89 is good at this stuff
[10:19] <word> Cool o.O
[10:21] <PPower> hmm. he doesnt seem to be replying.
[10:21] <PPower> word: do you get this with the nv driver
[10:22] <cfraz89> what is question?
[10:22] <cfraz89> sorry
[10:22] <cfraz89> was busy
[10:22] <evert> hello , i've got a simple question
[10:22] <cfraz89> hi
[10:22] <PPower> word is having trouble with the nvidia-glx drivers. its causing the panel to go fuzzy
[10:22] <evert> how can i upgrade from dapper beta to dapper final ?
[10:23] <PPower> evert: apt-get update. apt-get dist-upgrade as root
[10:23] <evert> ok thx
[10:23] <PPower> word: could you tell your problem to cfraz89?
[10:23] <evert> can i expect problems with it ?
[10:23] <PPower> evert: 50:50
[10:23] <evert> what kind of problems ?
[10:24] <word> cfraz89: After upgrading my nvidia-glx package along with a couple others my panel goes 'fuzzy' whenever I full screen an app...what's wierd is in Opera it doesn't happne when the background is anything other than white.
[10:24] <PPower> evert: when upgrading from breezy to dapper there has been issues of files not downloading
[10:25] <cfraz89> hmm
[10:25] <evert> i'm upgrading , i hope it goes all right :)
[10:25] <PPower> evert: once you have done that you should upgrade to kde 3.5.3. instructions on kubuntu.org
[10:25] <Bilford> You shouldnt get problems going from  Dapper Beta to Dapper final
[10:25] <cfraz89> word: what display depth are you using?
[10:26] <cfraz89> by fullscreen, do you mean right click on border->Advanced->fullscreen?
[10:26] <Bilford> what problems do you get going from  Dapper Beta to Dapper final?
[10:26] <word> cfraz89: From the log file apparently i'm running at 24..and by full screen I mean maximized
[10:27] <cfraz89> oh
[10:28] <word> cfraz89: I also get this error whenever I run an app in terminal i'm not sure if it's a related problem - http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/750974
[10:29] <cfraz89> hmm i get that if i run as different user
[10:29] <cfraz89> try deleting the .Xauthority file in your home
[10:29] <cfraz89> and logging in again
[10:29] <cfraz89> might have to restart x
[10:32] <PPower> cfraz89: will that fix my problems of the root user throwing up errors when trying to run a X app as root (e.g. the debconf gui in adept)
[10:33] <cfraz89> PPower: you need to use kdesu if you run x apps as root
[10:33] <cfraz89> kdesu <command>
[10:33] <PPower> cfraz89: i mean in adept when it tries to run a gui debconf it says could not get access to a display
[10:35] <cfraz89> oh i dont think that will help
[10:35] <cfraz89> theres not much you can do about that i think
[10:38] <word> cfraz89: hmm...now it only appears to happen when i open it with sudo...
[10:38] <cfraz89> PPower and word: you could try exporting DISPLAY
[10:38] <cfraz89> export DISPLAY=":0.0"
[10:38] <cfraz89> in your .bash_profile
[10:38] <cfraz89> maybe for root as well
[10:39] <cfraz89> word: try deleting the file for root as well
[10:39] <cfraz89> word: try running xhost +localhost
[10:39] <cfraz89> sorry not clear
[10:39] <cfraz89> word: try running 'xhost +localhost'
[10:41] <PPower> evert: how are you coming along?
[10:41] <cfraz89> word, also try deleting yours and root's  .ICEauthority file
[10:41] <word> cfraz89: All of these at once? or should i restart x between them?
[10:42] <cfraz89> dont restart x between them
[10:42] <cfraz89> just after all that
[10:42] <word> cfraz89: ok
[10:42] <cfraz89> and theres one more thing that might work
[10:42] <cfraz89> but we'll try that if this doesnt work
[10:44] <word> so export DISPLAY=":0.0" is the command i should run?
[10:45] <cfraz89> actually dont worry about that
[10:45] <cfraz89> i dont think it will help
[10:45] <cfraz89> sorry
[10:45] <word> lol ok
[10:45] <cfraz89> just the .ICEauthority
[10:46] <word> ok brb
[10:48] <word> cfraz89: nope both errors still not fixed :(
[10:50] <cfraz89> HMM OK
[10:50] <cfraz89> whoops sorry caps
[10:50] <cfraz89> man i suck
[10:50] <cfraz89> i really dont know about the maximized thingy
[10:50] <cfraz89> but one last thing about the console?
[10:50] <cfraz89> edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[10:50] <cfraz89> and search for a line SERVERARGS
[10:51] <cfraz89> it should say ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp
[10:51] <cfraz89> comment it out and add a new line that is just:
[10:51] <cfraz89> ServerArgsLocal=
[10:52] <word> ok done and restart x?
[10:53] <cfraz89> ok
[10:53] <cfraz89> hope it works
[10:54] <cfraz89> any luck?
[10:54] <word> nope :(
[10:55] <cfraz89> oh sorry
[10:55] <cfraz89> im out of options then
[10:55] <word> how can i downgrade nvidia-glx?
[10:55] <word> cfraz89: I think that might solve my visual problem
[10:56] <cfraz89> hmm downgrade
[10:56] <cfraz89> i think you will have to get it off nvidia website
[10:56] <cfraz89> and use the installer
[10:57] <berkes> good morning folks. Anyone here using spellcheckers often?
[10:58] <PPower> word: remenber to reinstall the driver after a kernel upgrade
[10:58] <cfraz89> good luck word
[10:59] <word> PPower: I already tried reinstalling.....they have linux drivers on their website?
[10:59] <berkes> I want only three languages, UK english, German and default: Dutch. However, English itself comes with like 60 entries.
[10:59] <PPower> word: yes they do. but they dont have a kernel module so you will need to compile one yourself. setup will do that
[10:59] <berkes> is there some configuration wrong? Because only a few of these 60 entries actually work
[11:01] <berkes> there are a lot of "unknown" entries in the languages too, but most of them are in the form of "English (variant_1)"
[11:03] <word> PPower: So I just run it in recovery console? it says it won't run because other parts of it is running or something..
[11:03] <PPower> word: see pm
[11:05] <deviant> Does anyone know how to get into KDMtheme manager in Kubuntu Dapper?
[11:05] <deviant> I can't seem to find it anywhere.
[11:06] <PPower> deviant: www.kde-apps.org
[11:07] <PPower> deviant: kde improvenet
[11:07] <berkes> deviant: there is a kdm config thing under "system settings" in the konfig thingy
[11:09] <deviant> berkes thanks
[11:10] <bahbahbah> what's the diff between "alternate" and "desktop"-kubuntu?
[11:10] <cfraz89> desktop is the livecd
[11:10] <cfraz89> and alternate is just text installer
[11:10] <cfraz89> but desktop also has installer
[11:10] <cfraz89> with gui
[11:11] <deviant> Can't seem to find Konfig<sp> anywhere in System Settings o.O
[11:11] <bahbahbah> cfraz89: thanks. does the gui-installer have the same features as the text one? raid/lvm stuff?
[11:11] <cfraz89> bahbahbah: afaik everything except reiserfs support
[11:12] <bahbahbah> cfraz89: thanks a lot. desktop it is then. :-)
[11:13] <MidMark> guys, why at every reboot I have to disable and re-enable my network in order to have an ip from dhcp?
[11:13] <meister> moin
[11:13] <cfraz89> np
[11:14] <berkes> deviant: are you using the kubuntu settings app, or the default KDE kconfig?
[11:15] <deviant> I'm using what's in the kicker panel.
[11:15] <berkes> how does it look, deviant?
[11:15] <deviant> Looked under kcontrol as well and couldn't find it there either.
[11:15] <david_> MidMark: do u have a standalone pc with a router?
[11:15] <deviant> Everything is in 4 rows.
[11:16] <berkes> deviant: I am using the Dutch locales, so my terminology is different.
[11:16] <berkes> deviant: okay, that is the kubuntu one. In the bottom row, at the left?
[11:16] <berkes> the most left one.
[11:16] <MidMark> david_: exactly
[11:16] <david_> so from bootup and turning the router on what happens
[11:17] <deviant> Date and Time is at the very bottom on the left.
[11:18] <berkes> ah, then you might not have the component :(
[11:18] <deviant> Berk can you accept DCC sends? I'll send you a snapshot of what I'm looking at.
[11:18] <berkes> deviant: did you look in adept if you can install it?
[11:18] <deviant> I used apt-get to install kcontrol-kdmtheme
[11:18] <nico8481> when adept shows the list of updates it found, how can you see on what repository it found each of them?
[11:18] <berkes> deviant: not sure if my firewall lets it through , just try
[11:18] <MidMark> david_: the router is just on and has dhcp enabled, but it seems to not release an ip for my pc
[11:19] <MidMark> david_: if I disable and enable the network again it can retrieve an ip, then all works
[11:19] <deviant> Sent it.
[11:19] <david_> look in the logs using ksystemlog and see what happens
[11:20] <MidMark> ok I'm seeing
[11:20] <MidMark> 03/06/2006 11:09:53	localhost	kernel	[4294678.419000]  eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 01462:7100 bound to 0000:00:0a.0
[11:20] <MidMark> 03/06/2006 11:09:53	localhost	kernel	[4294698.156000]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[11:21] <MidMark> probably I have to disable ipv6?
[11:21] <david_> if the pc is left idle for ages, it may be that your isp doing it and yes ipv6 disable for the time being
[11:23] <MidMark> david_: pc is turned on @ 11:09 what do you mean?
[11:23] <david_> is the router left on
[11:24] <MidMark> david_: yes
[11:25] <david_> well if your router is like mine it does the dhcp stuff all linux does is ask for a lease, which means even though the pc is off u still have a dsl connection
[11:26] <MidMark> yes exaclty internet connection is always on, but dhcp is indipendent in my opinion or not?
[11:27] <berkes> hmm, looking at the aspell english deb files, there are a LOT of obsolete dictionaries installed by default.,,
[11:27] <david_> the isp may not renew the lease, just guessing, if you turn the router off at night the problem will probably not occur
[11:27] <berkes> guess, remobing them by hand is the only option.
[11:28] <berkes> s/removing
[11:29] <david_> check 'ps ax' for dhclient3, if there is a process with that name, then ur setup is like mine and a call to the isp might confirm they don't want hours of idle dsl
[11:32] <MidMark> david_: I have left always my connection on on windows no problem so far
[11:34] <nico8481> anyone can help with adept?
[11:34] <david_> the solution is there somewhere, xp seems to take 10mins to acces the net after the dsl comes up, linux is immediate-I have no idea why
[11:34] <MidMark> nico8481: ask
[11:35] <nico8481> [11:18]  <nico8481> when adept shows the list of updates it found, how can you see on what repository it found each of them?
[11:36] <david_> nico8481: do 'less /etc/apt/sources.list it shows all repositories or in adept do file/manage repositories
[11:36] <MidMark> I think clicking on > there are details also for repos
[11:37] <nico8481> david_: yeah but how do you know on which one of the reps listed in sources.list it found a particular update?
[11:37] <david_> that will be the updates rep
[11:38] <nico8481> david_: so all the "upgradable" stuff it finds come from updates rep, all the "not installed" stuff come from "main" rep?
[11:39] <david_> it tells u which is updateable, the update comes from updates rep
[11:40] <nico8481> david_: what if you have added "custom" repositories? (like "deb http://archive.czessi.net/ubuntu/ dapper main universe" to install the necessary stuff to get amarok to play mp3's for example), how do you know if it found a particular package on such a "custom" rep that you added, or on the "official" ubuntu ones?
[11:41] <nico8481> david_: actually the point is: ...
[11:41] <nico8481> i did an apt-get update+distupgrade not long ago,
[11:41] <nico8481> did not find anything new
[11:41] <GazzaK> updates since release should calm down to almost nothing
[11:42] <nico8481> in the meantime i've added the custom rep i just wrote about (czessi), now i've started adept and it finds me new versions ("upgradable") of amarok...
[11:42] <nico8481> so i guess they come from that rep but i'd like to make sure
[11:42] <nico8481> how can i?
[11:42] <david_> with dapper updates icon comes on in system tray-anyone know if the firewall will block that or what to change in shorewall rules if it does?
[11:44] <nico8481> (new versions of amarok, and a lot of other stuff: k3b, kaffeine...)
[11:44] <david_> I don't know the easy way for that i'm afraid
[11:45] <evert_> how can i see if nvidia drivers are enabled ?
[11:45] <Terminus-> evert_: if you can run glxgears, chances are the drivers are loaded. :)
[11:46] <david_> after the awful upgrade from breezy and messing up the partitions I'm just getting over adept-lol
[11:46] <evert_> evert@evert:~$ glxgears
[11:46] <evert_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:46] <evert_> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[11:46] <evert_> evert@evert:~$
[11:47] <nico8481> david_: how do you deal with that kind of stuff? i mean once you've configured apt to use additional reps like i did, are you supposed to let it install all updates from that reps, even if they differ from/conflict with versions in the "official" ubuntu reps?!
[11:48] <_Deviant_> Does anyone know anything about how to get KDMtheme Manager to actually show up in System Settings?.. I installed kcontrol-kdmtheme but alas it's not showing up anywhere.
[11:49] <nico8481> (david_ or anyone :) )
[11:51] <david_> I did that to get jre1.5 in breezy, but then again that is a newer package then 1.42
[11:52] <MidMark> guys how I can enable rear speakers with amarok?
[11:52] <MidMark> I have tried surround40,41 and pass through... nothing :(
[11:53] <Reliant> I just upgraded my ubuntu/kubuntu to Dapper, and my sound stopped working in KDE. lspci shows it as NForce2. System Settings for sound gives no error in loading Arts, but no sound gets played. I have made sure that my user account is in the "audio" group
[11:54] <vinboy> make sure kernel support is enabled
[11:55] <david_> Reliant: try lsmod and see the sound modules were loaded
[11:55] <evert> where can i find the log files of the X server ?
[11:55] <Reliant> there are sound modules loaded, several of them. snd 48644  8 snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
[11:56] <DeadS0ul> i think you need snd_intel8x0 for nforce sound cards
[11:56] <david_> find a sound file and try play foobar.wav just to test it
[11:57] <DeadS0ul> you can see which cards you have in your system by going to /proc/asound I think
[11:57] <Reliant> I've tried apps other than Arts that play directly to my sound card (Amarok-xine & zsnes) and neither worked. checking now what Dead is saying...
[11:57] <MidMark> my adept is locked how can I unlock it?
[11:57] <Reliant> asound/cards says no sound cards
[11:58] <DeadS0ul> do you have the restircted modules package installed?
[11:58] <evert_> where can i find the log files of the X server ?
[11:58] <david_> evert_: try /var/log but u can use ksystemlog in system menu
[11:59] <Reliant> Dead: No, I don't
[12:00] <DeadS0ul> i'm pretty sure snd-intel8x0 works with your soundcard
[12:00] <DeadS0ul> try doing modprobe snd-intel8x0 and checking /proc/asound for a soundcard
[12:00] <Reliant> ok, thanks a lot
[12:00] <vinboy> maybe not
[12:01] <Reliant> that modprobe brought the card in the list
[12:01] <DeadS0ul> yeah, you should be all set now
[12:01] <DeadS0ul> alsaconf
[12:01] <david_> your going to need to put that entry in /etc/modules so it happens at boot
[12:02] <Reliant> ok
[12:03] <Reliant> which package has alsaconf?
[12:04] <Reliant> wait, I think etc/init.d/alsa-util restart   did it
[12:05] <DeadS0ul> add snd-intel8x0 to your /etc/modules anyway so it boots up
[12:05] <DeadS0ul> loads on boot even
[12:05] <MidMark> guys I have installed java from adept and it hangs at the question, i have killed it, NOW i have adept locked!
[12:05] <MidMark> I need help!
[12:06] <Reliant> yeah, I did that. zsnes doesn't error on on sound failure. I think now I just need to get the volume up so I can hear it, hehehe
[12:06] <tsdgeos> MidMark: exact problem?
[12:06] <MidMark> tsdgeos: that adept say that is locked, no install/uninstall functions
[12:06] <tsdgeos> MidMark: ok, go to a shell and do
[12:06] <tsdgeos> apt-get install -f
[12:07] <MidMark> that stay for?
[12:07] <tsdgeos> that will continue in the shell the last installation you were doing
[12:07] <tsdgeos> meaning it will probably get to the steo where you could not asnwer the question
[12:08] <tsdgeos> but this time you'll be able of doing it
[12:08] <tsdgeos> sorry
[12:08] <tsdgeos> you need sudo of course
[12:08] <tsdgeos> sudo apt-get install -f
[12:08] <MidMark> tsdgeos: problem I had deleted files
[12:08] <tsdgeos> which?
[12:08] <MidMark> tsdgeos: I mean .deb files
[12:09] <tsdgeos> the java ones?
[12:09] <MidMark> tsdgeos: yes
[12:09] <tsdgeos> well then do apt-get install sun-java or whichever was the name of the package and it will start again
[12:09] <MidMark> but there is no way to unlock and stop?
[12:10] <tsdgeos> stop what?
[12:10] <MidMark> without doing anything else, just unlock adept
[12:10] <tsdgeos> you don't want java anymore?
[12:10] <MidMark> java I will install later I want unlock adept!
[12:10] <tsdgeos> MidMark: installing java will unlock adept
[12:10] <david_> some apps only work with sun java
[12:11] <Hobbsee> sun-java5 is not installable with adept, currently
[12:11] <Reliant> alright, got my sound playing. Not only was the driver not loaded, but alsa-mixer was set to mute!  Thanks a lot for the help DeadS0ul & david_  :)
[12:11] <MidMark> tsdgeos: adept is still alpha... it needs konsole to many times
[12:11] <ArmedKing> You have to install sun java in terminal because you have to awnser a few questions, and you cant do that without using console
[12:12] <MidMark> ArmedKing: ok I'll try
[12:12] <david_> don't forget to add that module to /etc/modules otherwise u'll have to do all that every time
[12:12] <Reliant> yeah, I did
[12:12] <david_> quick check is reboot it should start automatically
[12:14] <Reliant> yeah, that's a good idea
[12:16] <nico8481> could someone point me to a clear doc explaining what the hell are the differences between main/stable/universe/metaverse/etc.. ?
[12:17] <Hobbsee> !repos
[12:17] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:17] <Hobbsee> i think it's off that nico8481
[12:17] <nico8481> thx
[12:18] <noteventime> will running xgl without compiz boost my desktop performance?
[12:19] <raw-bean> greets. I have a dual core laptop. Is there anyway to make klaptop change the performance governor on a per processor basis ?
[12:19] <raw-bean> It seems to change the governor only for the first processor
[12:20] <MidMark> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[12:21] <MidMark> ok after sudo dpkg --configure -a I have unlocked adept
[12:23] <davidhouse> hi guys. i want to get some xmodmap bindings (in ~/.xmodmaprc) loaded automatically on boot. is there a good way of doing this?
[12:23] <nico8481> Hobbsee: I don't get it... for example, I'm trying to add a rep (URI=http://archive.czessi.net/ubuntu/). On the homepage they say "I suggest to only use the stable branches (namely stable and stable-updates)" but if you have a look at the package list/repos structure (http://www.czessi.net/packages.php?i18n=en) you'll see only "main", "universe", "metaverse" (...) branches (is it the word?) but no "stable"/"stable-updates"...
[12:24] <davidhouse> i would've thought a ~/.xinitrc file would do, but mine doesn't appear to be working
[12:24] <davidhouse> i'll pastebin its contents
[12:24] <nico8481> so what? are "stable/stable-updates" and "main/universe/metaverse" the same things? if so, how come the formers are not listed?
[12:25] <davidhouse> http://paste.lisp.org/display/20672 is my ~/.xinitrc file
[12:26] <Hobbsee> nico8481: stable and unstable usually refer to debian...
[12:26] <nico8481> well that's strange, that's a kubuntu community website...
[12:27] <verden> i have kubuntu beta 4 and was wondering wether i should do an upgrade or dist-upgrade to download the latest release?
[12:27] <Hobbsee> verden: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:29] <ubuntu> i need help
[12:29] <GazzaK> whats up ubuntu
[12:29] <ubuntu> i put in the install cd
[12:29] <verden> cool thanks thats what i needed to know
[12:29] <GazzaK> Mongey: did it not boot?
[12:29] <Mongey> am i on the live bit?
[12:30] <Mongey> im on kubuntu
[12:30] <Mongey> and there is an icon that says install
[12:30] <Mongey> and examples
[12:30] <GazzaK> can you see a icon in the top left, one called examples and one called install?
[12:30] <GazzaK> hehe
[12:30] <Mongey> :D
[12:30] <Hobbsee> nico8481: i'm not sure what the other factoid is - but it's likely to be on the ubuntu wiki
[12:30] <vinboy> tat is the one
[12:30] <darger> davidhouse - maybe you need to put the full path of the file you are seeing if it exists - or put the xmodmap commands directly in the .xinitrc like xmodmap -e "remove Lock = Caps_Lock"
[12:30] <GazzaK> then yes, you are on the live cd, at the moment, your existing data on your hard drive is not touched
[12:31] <Mongey> good
[12:31] <Mongey> phew
[12:31] <Mongey> i want to install
[12:31] <Mongey> and dual boot
[12:31] <davidhouse> darger, i'll give it a try. thanks
[12:31] <verden> with a dist-upgrade i need to d/l 416mb so it could be easier to just d/l the latest version?
[12:31] <GazzaK> you can test it now and if you like, just install - remember to NOT overwrite the existing hard drive, but to resize free space....
[12:32] <Mongey> well i like it
[12:32] <GazzaK> there is a good guide on dual booting, but I do not know the link
[12:32] <Mongey> just need to find out how to dual
[12:32] <GazzaK> Mongey: it is nice isn't it :)
[12:32] <Mongey> ye
[12:32] <GazzaK> wait one, i'll look Mongey
[12:32] <Mongey> i used ubuntu
[12:32] <koriel> every time I try to open adept I get that the database is locked by another program but there is no other program..so my guess is that i have to delete some pid file or lock file..anyone can help me on that?
[12:32] <Mongey> ive partioned the hd
[12:33] <Mongey> 15gb to linux
[12:33] <GazzaK> is that 15Gb free space, unpartitioned?
[12:33] <vinboy> koriel: try running adept from console
[12:33] <Mongey> its free
[12:33] <vinboy> it may tell u what file is locked
[12:33] <Mongey> and it says its ext 2
[12:33] <vinboy> use at least ext3, or reiser
[12:34] <Mongey> which is better
[12:34] <GazzaK> I found it easier to just make a blank free space area, and then point the installer to that and let the installer create the file system
[12:34] <Mongey> ill reformat to ext 3
[12:35] <Mongey> ok ill install
[12:35] <verden> i notice on the download site that yu can d/l a cd of Kubuntu or a DVD, what extra has the dvd version have?
[12:35] <davidhouse> hi guys. does anyone use the gtk-snapshot version of emacs?
[12:35] <Mongey> oh also
[12:35] <Mongey> there is a problem
[12:35] <Hobbsee> !tell nico8481 about components
[12:35] <bahbahbah> Mongey: It depends on what you define as "better". Ext3 has better data manipulation tools and are better with larger files. Reiser is faster with small files. XFS is better overall but uses a lot more diskspace for it's metadata. What's your poison? ;-)
[12:36] <Mongey> ireland is down as gmt+1
[12:36] <Mongey> its just gmt
[12:36] <nico8481> thanks
[12:37] <GazzaK> Mongey: don't you have an irish form of BST there?
[12:37] <koriel> kapture::PkgSystem::PkgSystem()
[12:37] <Mongey> does the installer run while on the live ?
[12:37] <Mongey> bst?
[12:38] <GazzaK> Mongey: it's a gui based installer on the live cd
[12:38] <GazzaK> bst british summer time
[12:38] <GazzaK> so is it 10:38 there at the moment then
[12:38] <davidhouse> nope
[12:38] <Mongey> ye
[12:38] <davidhouse> 11:38
[12:38] <darger> how'd it go?
[12:39] <Mongey> it is 10
[12:39] <_al_> hi
[12:39] <verden> there is a kubuntu dvd that can be downloaded so whats the difference between that and the cd?
[12:39] <GazzaK> ah, it's 11:38 in the UK, hello Ireland :)
[12:39] <davidhouse> Mongey, it's really not, i'm in the UK and i'm looking at my clock
[12:39] <Mongey> aybe im wrong
[12:39] <_al_> anyone from kubuntu dev team here?
[12:39] <Reliant> wow, the new flash plugin in Ubuntu for Mozilla is terribel :(
[12:39] <GazzaK> verden: afaik it also contains a lot of the repos for adding applications, plus it is the live cd and alternate cd in one
[12:40] <davidhouse> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ displays 11:39 for london
[12:40] <HymnToLife> _al_> there' Riddell but I dunno if he's here atm
[12:40] <Mongey> i see
[12:40] <Hobbsee> _al_: yeah, various people. why?
[12:40] <Mongey> when did that change?
[12:40] <GazzaK> davidhouse:  in the UK it is 11:40, in ireland it is 10:40
[12:40] <jpatrick> _al_: hi
[12:40] <verden> thnax GazzaK
[12:40] <Riddell> HymnToLife: hmm?
[12:40] <davidhouse> aha. sorry, you said "british summer time", then "there" in the next line, so i assumed the UK.
[12:41] <HymnToLife> Riddell> _al_ asked for a Kubuntu developper
[12:41] <jpatrick> Riddell: _al_'s looking for you (or someone else from -devel)
[12:41] <Riddell> verden: DVD has both installers and all of supported packages
[12:41] <Riddell> hi _al_
[12:41] <Mongey> so what time is it?
[12:41] <Mongey> my sky box tells me 11 41
[12:41] <HymnToLife> Mongey> @now timezone :p
[12:42] <HymnToLife> @now paris
[12:42] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Paris: June 03 2006, 12:42:06
[12:42] <GazzaK> Mongey: whats your nearest big town/city?
[12:42] <davidhouse> that's not the same as the UK though
[12:42] <Mongey> dublin
[12:42] <davidhouse> @now birmingham
[12:42] <Mongey> im in dublin
[12:42] <_al_> jpatrick: hi
[12:42] <Mongey> @now dublin
[12:42] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Dublin: June 03 2006, 11:42:30
[12:42] <verden> any Aussies here?
[12:42] <davidhouse> @now london
[12:42] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/London: June 03 2006, 11:42:40
[12:42] <_al_> I send message to kubuntu mail-list
[12:42] <_al_> sent
[12:42] <GazzaK> Dublin *  Sat 11:41 AM
[12:42] <_al_> about this graphical installer
[12:42] <Mongey> ok
[12:42] <bahbahbah> @now stockholm
[12:43] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Stockholm: June 03 2006, 12:43:02
[12:43] <HymnToLife> @chuck
[12:43] <bahbahbah> Not bad...
[12:43] <Hobbsee> verden: yes.  and in #ubuntu-au
[12:43] <Mongey> will i manually edit the partion table?
[12:43] <Hobbsee> !msgthebot
[12:43] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:43] <verden> cool
[12:43] <_al_> now graphical installer wants all partitions to be mounted
[12:43] <_al_> and doesn't continue installation if some partitions are unmounted
[12:44] <_al_> this isn't good
[12:44] <jari> i have a problem.. Im a new user with linux and i cant play any music?? i have music in ntfs and i can find them, but amorok just dotn play them. I have just installed kubuntu, so do i have to do some trix before it starts to play mp3?
[12:44] <_al_> Riddell: hi
[12:44] <GazzaK> Mongey: if you make the free unpartitioned space first, you can just let the installer use the free space, it's an option, just make sure you don't say yes to anything looking like "wipe hard drive and install there"
[12:44] <darger> drop amorok and go with mpg123 or mplayer
[12:45] <HymnToLife> !tell jari about mp3
[12:45] <GazzaK> jari: ntfs - explain?
[12:45] <bahbahbah> jari: Also, have a look at "easyubuntu" (google it). Should make your life easier.
[12:45] <klerfayt> jari: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats
[12:45] <GazzaK> !easyubuntu
[12:45] <ubotu> it has been said that easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[12:46] <GazzaK> and there is automatix for more intensive stuff
[12:46] <GazzaK> !automatix
[12:46] <ubotu> Automatix is a utility which helps install various codecs and applications which cannot be part of the default installation, also another utility is called EasyUbuntu, please join #automatix or #easyubuntu for more information
[12:46] <Mongey> im at prepare partions
[12:47] <HymnToLife> hmm, isn't Automatix a reincarnation of the devil ?
[12:47] <ArmedKing> Does it work for dapper too?
[12:47] <koriel> anyone knows how to unlock the adept database..?
[12:47] <darger> partions indeed need preparingt
[12:48] <Mongey> i dont know what to do
[12:48] <GazzaK> HymnToLife: no it isn't, it has moved on from that :p
[12:48] <bahbahbah> HymnToLife: don't think so. it's a little less "safe" than easyubuntu from what I've heard.
[12:48] <tpol> hi thereZ
[12:48] <Mongey> it says prepare mount points
[12:48] <HymnToLife> some time ago it was said to be _very_ unsafe
[12:48] <GazzaK> can anyone offer Mongey help with dual booting partition stuff?
[12:48] <klerfayt> koriel: sudo killall adept
[12:48] <ArmedKing> try to "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[12:49] <ArmedKing> koriel: try to "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[12:49] <GazzaK> HymnToLife: it has a team of development staff now, and has changed a lot, an awful lot
[12:49] <tpol> Cant install Dapper, Reason: "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init". What cause this problem?
[12:49] <HymnToLife> oh, cool
[12:50] <koriel> ArmedKing: and then run adept again?
[12:50] <ArmedKing> koriel: Yes
[12:50] <GazzaK> HymnToLife: have a look at www.getautomatix.net (I think thats the address)
[12:50] <bahbahbah> tpol: lot's of things. wrong grub.conf?broken disk? bad initrd? wrong kernel-modules?
[12:50] <koriel> ArmedKing: yeah that did it...why that happened anyway?
[12:51] <ArmedKing> koriel: Dont know i had it yesterday whas looking for a solution for hours, and this whas the easyest one
[12:51] <tpol> bahbahbah: This message came by the installtion. I couldnt install Dapper ;P
[12:51] <GazzaK> HymnToLife: or even www.getautomatix.com - d'oh
[12:51] <Mongey> anyone ?
[12:51] <tpol> CD-check runed, and all fine with it
[12:52] <bahbahbah> tpol: did grub install properly?
[12:52] <Mongey> i think im on where to install
[12:52] <koriel> ArmedKing: and now your adept is working?
[12:52] <Mongey> it says /media/sda6 184gb
[12:52] <koriel> ArmedKing: did you try to install a new package?
[12:52] <tpol> bahbahbah: no grub, no wrong kernel, no what ever. the error came by the INSTALLTION, the system still NOT running with dapper
[12:53] <ArmedKing> koriel: I't whas even locked when hard rebooting. Has something to do with kubuntu not deleting the lock files.
[12:53] <ArmedKing> koriel: Yes
[12:53] <Mongey>  /media/sda1 135 gb
[12:53] <Mongey> then / 15gb i want to install on this one
[12:53] <tpol> could it caused by acpi or so?
[12:54] <ArmedKing> koriel: You can also try " sudo apt-get update"  after "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[12:54] <ArmedKing> koriel:And then run adept again
[12:54] <Mongey> ???????????
[12:54] <tpol> and when, how i give dapper the correct parms to install it? i couldnt find any needable documentaions
[12:55] <Mongey> anyone?
[12:56] <DeadS0ul> Mongey wha?
[12:56] <ArmedKing> koriel: Did it work
[12:56] <Mongey> http://img159.iageshack.us/img159/6374/snapshot26bo.png
[12:57] <DeadS0ul> Mongey, bad link =D
[12:57] <DeadS0ul> it's aksing me to go shopping hehe
[12:58] <GazzaK> http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/6374/snapshot26bo.png - correct link
[12:59] <Mongey> i want to install on the 15gb one its the lat one
[12:59] <Mongey> it only has a / in the box
[01:00] <ArmedKing> Does kubuntu accept installing on a usb disk?
[01:00] <ArmedKing> Last time i tried it could'nt boot from it.
[01:00] <DeadS0ul> you don't have swap space..
[01:01] <Mongey> whats that
[01:01] <bahbahbah>  tpol: Describe the problem better. Is the problem that the live-cd won't boot for you?
[01:01] <DeadS0ul> do you know what a page file is in windows?
[01:01] <Mongey> no
[01:01] <davidhouse> it's windows' equivalent of virtual memory, i think
[01:01] <DeadS0ul> ah, well it's virtual memory
[01:01] <jari> That easy ubuntu is very handy..:) just what i need..
[01:02] <DeadS0ul> just used for memory management
[01:02] <Mongey> so what do i do ?
[01:02] <DeadS0ul> go back,
[01:02] <ArmedKing> It's a file that is used to temporarily free memory by writing unused data to the file.
[01:02] <DeadS0ul> make anotehr partition
[01:02] <Mongey> and
[01:02] <PPower> does anyone know if there is any graphical LaTeX software for Linux?
[01:02] <ArmedKing> In windows that is
[01:02] <DeadS0ul> 2x the size of your ram, and when you come back to this part of the installtion
[01:02] <DeadS0ul> set it as the swap partition
[01:02] <Mongey> make another partion ?
[01:03] <DeadS0ul> yeap
[01:03] <DeadS0ul> twice the size of your ram
[01:03] <Mongey> so have 2 linux partions?
[01:03] <Mongey> so 2 gb
[01:03] <DeadS0ul> yeap
[01:03] <DeadS0ul> ha you got a lot of ram
[01:03] <DeadS0ul> set it to 512MB, that's more than enough
[01:03] <joch> PPower: kile
[01:03] <PPower> in my case i have a 2gb swap partition in a extended one. interestingly it is the only partiton in the extended one
[01:04] <Mongey> so make a 512mb partion
[01:04] <PPower> joch: Thanks.
[01:04] <Mongey> or 2gb?
[01:04] <DeadS0ul> 512 =D
[01:04] <tpol> bahbahbah: I starting PC, booting with Kubuntu 6.06 CD, the Installation-Screen came, and then a press "enter" to start the installation, after a few seconds there came some text-lines whatever it make, and the last line say that there is a kernel panic - not syncing and the system is freezed.... (sorry for bad english)
[01:04] <Mongey> what filesystem
[01:05] <DeadS0ul> linux swap =D
[01:05] <Mongey> ok
[01:05] <Mongey> bbl
[01:05] <ArmedKing> tpol: Did you verify writen data on your cd?
[01:05] <hubipete> hi, I try to bootstrap cmake 2.4-2 but it always tells me that my dapper drake has no appropriate C compiler, what's wrong
[01:06] <tpol> before i burned the iso file, i checked the MD5 and the Installation-Screen from Kubuntu copy me that the CD is fine.
[01:06] <Hobbsee> !b-e
[01:06] <_al_> Riddell: why graphical installer doesn't support reiserfs?
[01:06] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[01:06] <Hobbsee> hubipete: ^
[01:06] <_al_> Riddell: you can't make new partition with reiserfs
[01:07] <_al_> Riddell: but if you already have reiserfs partition, installation succeeds
[01:07] <tpol> ArmedKing: before i burned the iso file, i checked the MD5 and the Installation-Screen from Kubuntu copy me that the CD is fine.
[01:08] <[zero] > Hi I imported my music collection to amaroK but when I goto play them, it skips the file.. anyone know why?
[01:08] <Riddell> _al_: because qt parted is badly maintained
[01:09] <DeadS0ul> [zero] :  didja just install ubuntu?
[01:09] <Fillado> they mp3's zero?
[01:09] <Bazzi> !+restrictedformats
[01:09] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:09] <hubipete> ubotu: there is no build-essential package
[01:09] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, hubipete
[01:09] <Bazzi> [zero]  ^
[01:09] <[zero] > yeah I installed it 2days ago and yeh they are mp3's
[01:09] <Fillado> |Zero| - http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10
[01:09] <_al_> Riddell: ok
[01:09] <[zero] > does it not play mp3s?
[01:10] <Fillado> it will do when you do the above
[01:10] <Bazzi> [zero] : see the url ubotu pasted
[01:10] <hubipete> [zero] : you have to install the restricted things
[01:10] <tpol> think it could be caused by some hardware. tried to test to install SuSE 10.1 and it freezed by instalion too, it could only be installed by using "safe settings" whatever SuSE use by these setting, think i could install Kubuntu too with "safe settings" but how i can say Kubuntu which parameters needed to install?
[01:10] <DeadS0ul> you have to download extra packages for it
[01:10] <[zero] > oh ok cheers
[01:10] <DeadS0ul> click the link that ubotu pasted, or fillado's
[01:10] <hubipete> [zero] : enable multiverse in you /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:10] <_al_> Riddell: I have problem with wireless network on Kubuntu Dapper
[01:10] <GazzaK> brb
[01:11] <_al_> Riddell: when I plug in this pcmcia wireless card (Orinoco) there appears two wireless interface
[01:12] <evert> Pff i think it's impossible to install nvidia drivers on my pc :( ... i think i give it up :(
[01:12] <Bazzi> evert whats the problem?
[01:12] <_al_> Riddell: and I don't get to work this card
[01:12] <Bazzi> I've had my share of problems with them too
[01:13] <_al_> although it works perfectly on Gentoo and Breezy
[01:13] <HymnToLife> _al_> have you looked for it in !wireless ?
[01:13] <HymnToLife> maybe it's Ralink based and has some kernel incompatibility with 2.6.15 kernels
[01:14] <_al_> I think that problem is on Dapper's wireless interface handling
[01:14] <evert> The nvidia drivers just won't work , i tried several wiki's and guides , but none of them worked for me ... i'm having a nvidia 6800Gt
[01:14] <_al_> HymnToLife: it uses prism2 chipset
[01:14] <Fillado> evert: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx , then edit the xorg.conf file to change the driver from nv to nvidia
[01:14] <darger> evert - did you change the xorg.conf file to the nv driver?
[01:16] <DeadS0ul> evert: easier to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   text based menus to configure everythign =D
[01:16] <Bazzi> evert: dont use the downloadable nvidia drivers, use the ones in ubuntu
[01:16] <Riddell> _al_: unfortunately that's the way the driver is written
[01:16] <hubipete> my CC env variable is not exported, do I have to do it myself or which package does it?
[01:16] <_al_> Riddell: before there wasn't two interfaces for this card
[01:17] <hugelmopf> hubipete: you usually don't need to export it, except if you have multiple compilers and want to choose a specific one.
[01:17] <_al_> Riddell: this card uses module orinoco_cs
[01:17] <Hobbsee> !tell MidMark about kdesu
[01:17] <hubipete> hugelmopf: the problem is that cmake wants me to export it
[01:18] <hubipete> hugelmopf: and i don't know which path to set
[01:18] <hugelmopf> hubipete: do you have a compiler installed? i would assume that cmake should find it without CC being exported.
[01:18] <evert> I tried to use the drivers given with ubuntu , but it still fails
[01:18] <hugelmopf> hubipete: as mentioned above, build-essential is the package you want, and it _must_ exist (it is in main)
[01:19] <evert> i also tried the 'real' nvidia drivers , but they failed to
[01:19] <hubipete> hugelmopf: i have gcc-4.0 g++ make and things like that install - build-essential is not found on my dapper drake
[01:19] <Bazzi> evert failed as in?
[01:19] <hugelmopf> hubipete: what does "apt-cache policy build-essential" tell you?
[01:20] <hubipete> hugelmopf: oh it was a typo on my site sorry
[01:21] <hugelmopf> hubipete: you should install the package "gcc", which will create the link of /usr/bin/gcc to your gcc-4.0 compiler. than cmake will probably find it.
[01:21] <hugelmopf> hubipete: build-essential will probably install gcc automatically.
[01:22] <hubipete> hugelmopf: ok it works now thx a lot
[01:22] <GazzaK> I've got a screen resolution problem on the login screen only as per http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3411/img00019kv.jpg and http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/313/img00025td.jpg - when I move the mouse the screen scrolls about, once I have logged in, it is fine, any ideas?
[01:22] <CyberSDF> salut !
[01:24] <ppd> hi! does anybody using kde 3.5.3 have printing problems?
[01:25] <raw-bean_> hi. I'm sorry if this isn't the right forum - can klaptop work on a per processor basis ? I need to change the cpu freq performance governor for both processors - it only seems to work for the first one.
[01:31] <draggor> I just installed the ATI drivers, and now the fonts in my GTK apps look really small, hard to read, and overall crappy.  Any idea how to fix this?
[01:31] <hubipete> how can I change the cursor set of kubuntu? I tried to copy things to ~/.icons but that did not work
[01:33] <[zero] > it says to instal libxine-extracodecs but i cant find that one?
[01:33] <jpatrick> [zero] : in multiverse
[01:34] <hubipete> [zero] : go to /etc/apt/
[01:34] <hubipete> type sudo vim sources.list
[01:35] <hubipete> [zero] : there you will find a line with universe and multiverse in the end
[01:35] <DeadS0ul> or you could hit alt+f2 and run kate as root..
[01:36] <hubipete> [zero] : you have to remove the comment and then save and quit by typing :wq and run sudo apt-get update
[01:36] <draggor> I also get a bunch of warnings like:  Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0
[01:37] <PPower> cfraz89: you know how i was saying about the problems with adept due to the x server. http://lsproc.pastebin.com/755304
[01:39] <cfraz89> yep
[01:39] <PPower> cfraz89: so whats the prob
[01:39] <cfraz89> i really dont know sorry
[01:39] <[zero] > # deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[01:39] <[zero] > # deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[01:40] <[zero] > them?
[01:40] <MidMark> Hobbsee: tell me which commands do you need to put a proxy for adept
[01:40] <PPower> [zero]  please do not paste
[01:40] <MidMark> I can add it to my wiki page
[01:40] <[zero] > oh sorry
[01:40] <Hobbsee> MidMark: not a clue.
[01:40] <linux_galore> [zero] : just remove the #
[01:40] <[zero] > ok
[01:40] <PPower> cfraz89: ever seen that before?
[01:41] <MidMark> Hobbsee: what?
[01:41] <Hobbsee> MidMark: not a clue.  i dont know.
[01:41] <cfraz89> PPower: i think i have that problem too
[01:41] <cfraz89> gtg, bbl
[01:41] <Reliant> I think I have a simple one. I want to add sounds to X-Chat, and the default external player is "esdplay", but I don't have that function.  Is there a package I should install for that, or a different command to use to play sounds?
[01:41] <MidMark> Hobbsee: sorry want to say Tonio_ I have wrong
[01:41] <PPower> Anyone! Has anyone managed to set up the kde interface for debconf? I am having trouble. See http://lsproc.pastebin.com/755304
[01:42] <MidMark> Tonio_: can you tell me which commands do you need to put a proxy for adept
[01:42] <Tonio_> MidMark: simply frontend the apt configuration on that point would be the solution
[01:43] <Tonio_> MidMark: in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[01:44] <rahab> does anyone know when edgy repos will be opened/available ?
[01:44] <MidMark> Tonio_: all that stuff? -> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/AptProxyHowTo
[01:45] <dipnlik> hi all. is there a simple way to import the shortcuts from konqueror's location bar (like ubws to search in the ubuntu wiki) to firefox?
[01:46] <Tonio_> MidMark: NO :)
[01:47] <Tonio_> MidMark: simply add Acquire::http::Proxy "http://www.yourproxy.lan:8080"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf can do the job ;)
[01:47] <MidMark> Tonio_: ok thanx I will add it
[01:48] <Healot> hi kubuntuans
[01:48] <Tonio_> MidMark: add the adept code to manage this ?
[01:48] <Mongey> back
[01:49] <PPower> Please can I have some help with adept and the libqt-perl??? http://lsproc.pastebin.com/755304
[01:49] <GazzaK> Mongey: is it working?
[01:49] <MidMark> Tonio_: no :) I will add to my https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDapperWhatStillNeedsAConsole
[01:49] <Mongey> havent installed
[01:49] <Tonio_> MidMark: ah ok ;)
[01:49] <Mongey> just partioned
[01:50] <Mongey> what do i do
[01:50] <Mongey> i have 2 windows partions a linux one and a swap
[01:50] <Mongey> the linux one has / in it
[01:51] <Mongey> the windows have /media/sda7 and /media/sda1
[01:51] <Mongey> and theres a linux one with swap in it
[01:51] <Mongey> what now ?
[01:51] <MidMark> Tonio_: do you know if there is a gui to add services to /etc/rc... ?
[01:52] <Tonio_> MidMark: the service management of systemsettings does this yes ;)
[01:52] <Mongey> NYONE
[01:52] <Mongey> anyone?
[01:52] <MidMark> Tonio_: I means add a service that is not in the list... really?
[01:53] <Tonio_> MidMark: ah ! no, there isn't
[01:53] <[zero] > removing the # on that file didnt work :S
[01:53] <rahab> Mongey: just go ahead and install
[01:53] <GazzaK> Mongey: I think it's a simple case of installing now, onto the / partition
[01:53] <Tonio_> but that makes sence, since the scripts in that sections cannot be generated graphically
[01:53] <Tonio_> it requires scripting....
[01:53] <MidMark> Tonio_: ah ok :) so it is -> sudo update-rc add <service> right?
[01:53] <MidMark> Tonio_: yes but I'm talking abount script just installed
[01:53] <Tonio_> MidMark: I don't see what you call add service :)
[01:54] <MidMark> Tonio_: for example if I install freepops, installs also a script, but in the list it isn't added... so I need an update-rc if I'm not in wrong
[01:55] <Tonio_> MidMark: the services are generally just added and launched by postinst instructions in the debian package
[01:55] <Jack123> hi
[01:55] <Tonio_> it isn't added in which list ? the systemsettings one ?
[01:55] <MidMark> Tonio_: yes
[01:55] <MidMark> Tonio_: also it doesn't start automatically
[01:56] <Tonio_> MidMark: I don't know the way it gets the list...
[01:56] <Jack123> in firefox i can play videos eg youtube without problems (mplayer-plugin) in konqueror it doesnt work. soemone can help please? what do i need?
[01:56] <Tonio_> I was assuming it was browsing /etc/rc*.d when launched....
[01:57] <Tonio_> Jack123: install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:57] <Tonio_> Jack123: you probably are using the gpl one
[01:57] <MidMark> Tonio_: probably yes, but freepops install a script not in rcs, but in another place cannot remember and only with update-rc I can add to the list
[01:57] <Tonio_> MidMark: ah... that sounds specific
[01:57] <Jack123> Tonio_ so i cant use synaptic?
[01:57] <Tonio_> Jack123: sure you can....
[01:58] <Tonio_> MidMark: looks like it adds a script but doesn't install it to let the user do it manually
[01:58] <Tonio_> MidMark: to me that should be corrected by a debian postinst script that asks the user "do you wanna activate the service"
[01:58] <Tonio_> or something like this
[01:59] <Tonio_> Jack123: why would synaptic/adept be unusable for this ?
[01:59] <arafat> hi all! after upgrading to dapper two kmail icons are missing ("Filter classify as (not) spam"). Does anyone one how to add them?
[01:59] <GazzaK> woo, upgrading to amarok 1.4 :)
[02:00] <GazzaK> Mongey: hows it going?
[02:00] <Jack123> Tonio_ well i thought if its nonfree ..but just need to get the right repositories
[02:00] <david_> there is suposed tob a streaming video plugin for konqueror anyone know what it is
[02:00] <Mongey>  secs remaining
[02:00] <MidMark> Tonio_: that is for sure, but in a graphical mode you cannot add script presente in the fs
[02:00] <Mongey> this installs grub right?
[02:01] <GazzaK> yes
[02:01] <Mongey> if it didnt
[02:01] <GazzaK> Mongey: as soon as you can after install, come back here and tell us how it went
[02:01] <klerfayt> kubuntu wants me to use ext3 filesystem?
[02:01] <GazzaK> Mongey: I had dual boot for a day, until I decided I liked it so much I was gonna bin windows
[02:01] <david_> thats the best one
[02:02] <david_> use ext3
[02:02] <klerfayt> ok
[02:02] <jw> I've got a problem installing dapper
[02:02] <Jack123> hi
[02:02] <Jack123> how would i upgrade to dapper?
[02:03] <Jack123> just via sudo apt-get updae
[02:03] <jw> he can't find the package at http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest and kde-latest
[02:03] <Jack123> tand apt-get upgrade?
[02:03] <david_> thats no suprise, the best way is off the live CD, I just backed up what I could and wrote over my old install
[02:03] <david_> the upgrade install ubuntu with gnome and seems to erase kubuntu
[02:04] <Jack123> hi
[02:04] <Jack123> how do i upgrade to dapper?
[02:04] <jw> Jack123: just run the update-manager
[02:04] <david_> you normally type apt-get dist-upgrade but it's not working
[02:04] <Mongey> brb
[02:05] <DeadS0ul> a gnome application that manages apt updates
[02:05] <DeadS0ul> *cough* adept *cough*
[02:07] <jw> when I want to install dapper, i get an error the package http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest cannot be found
[02:08] <jw> does any one have a solution?
[02:08] <Bazzi> kde-353
[02:08] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.3
[02:08] <ubotu> kde3.5.3 is, like, totally, to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[02:08] <jw> thanks!
[02:08] <mongey|study> im on windows
[02:09] <mongey> but im need help
[02:09] <nico8481> how can i configure KDE to use alt+leftshift to switch keyboard layouts? i try to set this as the keyboard shortcuts but it seems to be waiting that i strike a "real key" (not a modifier like alt or shift) to record the shortcut... :-/
[02:09] <Jack123> Tonio_ it worked thank you very much
[02:10] <Tonio_> Jack123: pleasure ;)
[02:10] <DjDarkman`> hy ,i can`t install kubuntu ,because the partitioner gives me this error "Critical error during ped_disk_new!" ,what should i do?
[02:10] <Hobbsee> nico8481: system settings, search for keyboard shortcuts
[02:11] <mongey> GazzaK install went ok
[02:11] <mongey> everything intact
[02:11] <mongey> :P
[02:11] <nico8481> Hobbsee: yes that's where i'm looking... but the problem is that is doesn't seem to consider alt+leftshift as a "valid" combination... seems to be waiting for a "real" key, not a modifier... see what i mean?
[02:12] <DeadS0ul> mongey: you're back =P
[02:12] <mongey> :D
[02:12] <mongey> in windows
[02:12] <DeadS0ul> hit another problem?
[02:12] <mongey> no
[02:12] <DjDarkman`> can someone help me?
[02:12] <DeadS0ul> heh
[02:12] <Hobbsee> nico8481: oh...i see...no idea sorry...
[02:13] <MidMark> Tonio_: also delete something in the system services list is done only via console
[02:13] <Healot> DjDarkman`: ask the question, somebody will answer
[02:13] <DjDarkman`> i already asked
[02:13] <DjDarkman`> i can`t install kubuntu ,because the partitioner gives me this error "Critical error during ped_disk_new!" ,what should i do?
[02:14] <MrFaber> hi all
[02:14] <DeadS0ul> DjDarkman`: what're you using ot install?
[02:14] <GazzaK> mongey: so it's all good
[02:14] <MrFaber> Has Ubuntu Sata2 harddisk support?
[02:15] <mongey> ye
[02:15] <mongey> just need to change some things in grub
[02:15] <GazzaK> I'm glad :)
[02:15] <mongey> bbs
[02:16] <MrFaber> hm, does it support it?
[02:16] <MrFaber> Because someone uses the Desktop-CD and sees no harddisk with a sata 2 harddisk
[02:17] <Healot> SATA II, i guess not yet... MrFaber
[02:18] <hastour> hi, can somebody tell me, where kmail stores my mail and settings? I want to do a clean install of dapper, and I don't know, what to backup..
[02:19] <h3sp4wn> hastour: Back up the whole of /home/yourusername and you will be fine
[02:19] <Hobbsee> hastour: just make sure you get the hidden files too
[02:20] <MrFaber> Healot:thx,  but Fedora should work
[02:20] <hastour> but I've got there tons of config for ubuntu/xubuntu stuff that I don't need anymore, i just want my mail and that's all...
[02:21] <makko> INSTALLER CRASHED
[02:21] <noteventime> (T_T) gam_server is constantly using 10%
[02:21] <makko> what do i do now?
[02:21] <MrFaber> hastour: ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail and ~/kde/share/config/kmail*
[02:21] <noteventime> !gam_server
[02:21] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[02:21] <MrFaber> hastour: but there can be more files especially if you use other kontacnt features than kmail
[02:21] <Healot> MrFaber: it's a new hardware... try to find the driver from the manufacturer
[02:21] <hastour> MrFaber: thanks!
[02:22] <MrFaber> Healot: but how to use under Dapper-Desktop-CD?
[02:23] <DjDarkman`> DeadS0ul: sorry i hat to do something ,i use the kubuntus grafical installer
[02:23] <MetaMorfoziS> imho it's a bad idea...
[02:24] <Healot> use, use the alternate CD instead... the desktop Installer doesn't have option to load custom drivers
[02:24] <DjDarkman`> but i dont need custom drivers
[02:25] <DjDarkman`> my hardrive is an ide drive
[02:25] <Healot> DjDarkman`: wasn't referring to you
[02:25] <DjDarkman`> ohh  sorry
[02:25] <Healot> nvm...
[02:25] <MrFaber> Healot: des Alternate-Live-CD has the same problem, but how to load?
[02:26] <pm> which software for editing subtitles in linux?
[02:26] <Healot> I wish the the installer does have such options liek the old Redhat installer
[02:27] <Healot> Ubuntu installer is lacking of that wonderful feature
[02:27] <MrFaber> Healot: yes, but this isn't possible because of monolithic kernel of linux?
[02:27] <MrFaber> Healot: it has to be compiled for this kernel
[02:27] <MrFaber> Healot: afaik
[02:27] <Healot> or worse, you can customize your own CD...
[02:27] <MrFaber> Healot: do you have experiences with the new NetInstall?
[02:27] <Healot> the older Redhate installer have such feature
[02:28] <MrFaber> Healot: maybe we can boot with knoppix install it and exchange kernel
[02:28] <Healot> I install from CD... slow connection here
[02:28] <Healot> MrFaber: something like that, then we can recompile the new driver and remaster the installer
[02:29] <MrFaber> Healot: change cd after release?
[02:29] <Healot> yeah, the alternate CD can be configured for OEM
[02:29] <Healot> it's a GPL release...
[02:29] <MrFaber> Healot: maybe redhat has compiled new driver for every release so you can have used this
[02:29] <MrFaber> Healot: you are right
[02:30] <Healot> MrFaber: I don't know much about remastering... but I've done it using Knoppix before
[02:32] <Healot> btw, do you have IDE/SATA disks? MrFaber
[02:32] <MrFaber> Healot: Sata at home but only Sata 1
[02:32] <MrFaber> Healot: in this computer IDE
[02:32] <ubuntu> is ntfs write reliable now_
[02:32] <ubuntu> ?
[02:32] <Jack123> yes
[02:32] <Healot> MrFaber: you might want to compile driver for SATA2 first... test it...
[02:33] <Healot> not totally reliable... partially safe yes
[02:33] <MrFaber> Healot: and files are changeable under ntfs now?
[02:34] <Healot> you can safe new files into it... but deleting, and change permission are still dangerous
[02:34] <Healot> appending data.. hum, you might want to refer to the ntfs-linux project
[02:34] <MrFaber> Healot: which one and how to compile on a live cd?
[02:34] <Healot> the alternate CD
[02:35] <Healot> since the desktop CD has limitations over the alternate
[02:35] <voicu> is there some way to find the default /etc/network/interfaces file?
[02:35] <playest> hi !
[02:35] <playest> how i can get the mp3 support for xine ?
[02:36] <Healot> voicu: /etc/network/interfaces is the default location for interfaces files
[02:36] <MrFaber> playest: isntall libxine-extracodec
[02:36] <MrFaber> playest: isntall libxine-extracodecs
[02:36] <Healot> libxine-extracodecs
[02:36] <voicu> i mean, how do i go back to default file that the installer made
[02:36] <playest> MrFaber, but apt-get say me that this package is obsolete
[02:36] <voicu> i changed it and can't remember how is was set
[02:37] <voicu> *it
[02:37] <MrFaber> playest: ?
[02:37] <Healot> voicu: it is automatically written by the installer when you configure interfaces during install
[02:37] <MrFaber> playest: install it
[02:37] <voicu> Healot: so do i have to reinstall the network?
[02:37] <playest> MrFaber, but apt-get say me that this package is out of date
[02:37] <Bilford> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[02:37] <playest> and he don't purpose me to install it
[02:37] <Healot> voicu: no... voice
[02:38] <voicu> ?
[02:38] <playest> i know Bilford
[02:38] <Healot> what you want to do actually, voicu?
[02:38] <Bilford> then whats the problem
[02:38] <playest> Bilford, this don't works
[02:38] <Bilford> Dapper?
[02:38] <playest> i have an erroe message
[02:38] <playest> yes dapper
[02:38] <cap|com> hi
[02:38] <Bilford> oh, you have to enable multiverse in your source list
[02:39] <voicu> Healot: i changed the file and i want to see how it was the first time because it would help me configure my network interface
[02:39] <playest> Bilford, i do that too
[02:39] <Bilford> ok, and do this...
[02:39] <Bilford> in sources, add multiverse after universe
[02:39] <MrFaber> playest: maybe your sources.list ist not ok?
[02:39] <Bilford> so where it says universe, change it to  :   universe multiverse
[02:39] <playest> wait a minute
[02:40] <Bilford> I know what Im talking about
[02:40] <Healot> voicu: if you want to configure interfaces manually, i suggest you check out the syntax "man interfaces"
[02:40] <playest> MrFaber, http://pastebin.com/755390
[02:40] <playest> this is my source.list
[02:40] <Healot> voicu: btw, to see the changes you made, "invoke-rc.d networking restart"
[02:40] <voicu> Healot: i tried that but it doesn't explain everything i need
[02:40] <Healot> voicu: what DO you need?
[02:40] <Bilford> I just told you waht to do
[02:41] <Bilford> for example, on line 7:  change deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe to
[02:41] <Bilford> http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[02:41] <scast> does ubuntu comes with vim 7.0 ?
[02:41] <Bilford> do that on line 16 too
[02:41] <Bilford> add multiverse to the end
[02:42] <freqmod> Bilford: line 10: deb http://....u/ dapper-backports main restricted universe __multiverse__
[02:42] <Bilford> no _
[02:42] <voicu> Healot: first, the interface takes very long to start (about 20sec) and it has a static ip address. then i need to set it to have 2 ip addresses with 2 different gateways and netmasks
[02:42] <cap|com> i had a little problem with the kubuntu desktop cd when installing to hard disk. should i mention it here or is this not the right place?
[02:42] <Bilford> a space
[02:42] <Bilford> looks at lines 7 and 16
[02:42] <Healot> voicu: you need an alias for your interface?
[02:42] <MrFaber> playest: multiverse ist missing
[02:42] <voicu> Healot: i don't mind actually that it takes that long to start... but i need the 2 ip stuff
[02:43] <MrFaber> playest: you only have this for backports
[02:43] <playest> MrFaber, yes ...
[02:43] <MrFaber> playest: one second, I post mine list
[02:43] <playest> i add it
[02:43] <voicu> Healot: something like eth0 and eth0:1 but it won't work
[02:43] <Healot> voicu: thumbrule, one IP one interface, but you can make a lot alias for you interface
[02:43] <Healot> the man does show you how to do so... voicu
[02:43] <MrFaber> playest: you have some unstable packages, maybe it has something to do with this
[02:44] <playest> MrFaber, hummm
[02:44] <voicu> yes, but it doesn't show me how... i'm not very good with networking
[02:44] <playest> i have opera
[02:44] <playest> and there is no dapper version
[02:44] <MrFaber> playest: http://pastebin.com/755398
[02:44] <MrFaber> playest: I mean kde 3.5.3 and latest amarok
[02:45] <playest> it's the breezy version
[02:45] <voicu> Healot: i tried with webmin too, and the connection didn't start at all
[02:45] <playest> MrFaber, i have kde 3.5
[02:45] <Healot> voicu: add this "mapping <if>" where if is your interface
[02:45] <playest> and amarok is the latest too
[02:45] <david_> anyone know what to setup to allow the auto updates to work behind a firewall
[02:46] <MrFaber> playest: kde 3.5.3 and latest amarok are unstable
[02:46] <voicu> Healot: ok, now what?
[02:46] <playest> MrFaber, latest amrok is unsatble ?
[02:46] <playest> are you sure
[02:46] <playest> i read that not
[02:46] <Healot> are you opening the man right now? voicu?
[02:47] <playest> MrFaber, well
[02:47] <voicu> Healot: yep
[02:47] <playest> i install libextra...
[02:48] <voicu> it says there that i need some kind of script... that's the part i don't get. what should the script return or what does it have to do?
[02:48] <Healot> then add "map <map name> <alias> " just like in the man... voicu
[02:48] <Healot> add as many aliases that you need
[02:49] <Healot> after that configure the interface using the "iface" option just like the example below in the man
[02:49] <playest> yeeesssssssssssssss !
[02:49] <playest> thanks MrFaber it works :D
[02:49] <playest> :)
[02:50] <voicu> Healot: how about the script part?
[02:50] <voicu> i tried mapping them like that and it didn't work
[02:50] <Healot> if you have any, add it..
[02:50] <Healot> if you don;t you don;t have too..
[02:50] <MrFaber> playest: with what?
[02:50] <MrFaber> playest: np
[02:50] <playest> MrFaber, multiverse
[02:50] <voicu> ok...
[02:50] <MrFaber> playest: ok
[02:50] <Healot> voicu: ifup both interfaces... voicu
[02:51] <playest> well
[02:51] <playest> i have to go
[02:51] <playest> bye !
[02:51] <playest> and glory to ubuntu
[02:51] <Healot> not the original interfaces name, up the aliases
[02:51] <playest> :D
[02:51] <Healot> heh, playest
[02:51] <playest> (i know i'm ridiculous)
[02:51] <playest> Kubuntu ;)
[02:51] <koriel> i'm trying to install jdk5 with adept and the installation freezes at 5%
[02:52] <Bilford> helping people is a waste of time
[02:52] <cap|com> hello. i had a little problem with the kubuntu desktop cd when installing to hard disk. to be precise, the visual partitioning tool didn't show all of my hard drives. the disk i wanted to install kubuntu to wasn't shown and so i was unable to create the partition where i wanted to. i managed the problem by downloading the alternate install cd and installed in text mode, where everything worked fine. but i wanted to mention this for future vers
[02:53] <Healot> Bilford: yes, I couldn't agree more, but I need to feed my ego :)
[02:53] <koriel> Bilford: disagree with u...helping people has to do with helping yourself
[02:53] <Bilford> I dont learn anything by helping people
[02:54] <MrFaber> ok, cu all
[02:54] <MrFaber> thanks Healot
[02:54] <koriel> then you re not helping them correctly...!
[02:54] <voicu> and no one learns if no one helps...
[02:54] <koriel> and I'm not talking only about computers btw
[02:55] <DarkSpirit> Still no HTTPs for Kubuntu 6.06 ?
[02:55] <koriel> according to chaos theory everything returns to u eventually
[02:55] <Bilford> lol
[02:59] <visik7> I've a console for a program that is in gtk2 the font inside the console is too big
[02:59] <visik7> how can I reduce them without install gconf-editor ?
[03:02] <pipitas> Hi -- has anybody in here ever run *U*buntu Dapper (note the missing "K") as a Live CD? I want to know if CUPS printing works there (I know it doesn't work on the *K*ubuntu Dapper Live CD)
[03:03] <ivoks> hi there
[03:04] <ivoks> pipitas: i just wanted to inform you that we are aware of CUPS problems in Dapper
[03:04] <Hobbsee> !tell marco_ about ghost
[03:04] <Healot> pipitas: the bug already filed
[03:04] <ivoks> pipitas: these are upstream bugs... and we couldn't go with 1.1.x series, since ubuntu will be supported for 5 years, not few months
[03:08] <pipitas> ivoks: No, they are *not* upstream bugs, definitely not (unless "upstream" means Debian for you)! You are shipping a b0rken configuration in Dapper. CUPS has released 1.2.1 two weeks ago, but Dapper ships 1.2.0.
[03:08] <ivoks> pipitas: those are bugs in 1.2.0
[03:08] <ivoks> pipitas: if you are willing to try, i packaged 1.2.1
[03:09] <ivoks> pipitas: 1.2.1 will almost definetly get in dapper asap
[03:09] <pipitas> ivoks: Also, I don't get why "supported for 5 years" means you can't offer a safe and tested CUPS 1.1.x --> 1.2.x upgrade at a later stage
[03:10] <ivoks> pipitas: that way we don't have testing base
[03:10] <pipitas> ivoks: I'm willing to test your 1.2.1 packages, yes (are you willing to listen to my proposals in return?)
[03:10] <pipitas> ivoks: what is your real name?
[03:10] <ivoks> pipitas: i'm allways open for proposal
[03:10] <ivoks> pipitas: Ante Karamati
[03:10] <pipitas> Hi, Ante then. :-)
[03:11] <pipitas> ivoks: are you the official CUPS packager for Ubuntu?
[03:11] <ivoks> pipitas: no, but i'm in the team that's responsible for printing in ubuntu
[03:12] <ivoks> pipitas: we do everything in a team, not as individual
[03:12] <ivoks> pipitas: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-printing
[03:12] <Bilford> are there team leaders
[03:13] <pipitas> ivoks: I've blogged about Dapper printing, and part 2 (dealing with the Live CD) is currently in the queue (should appear online any time now)
[03:13] <ivoks> pipitas: well, that's what blogs are for :)
[03:13] <ivoks> pipitas: i'm interested in you testing this new packages (for 1.2.1)
[03:14] <ivoks> this packages don't solve all issues, but do solve some of them
[03:14] <ivoks> untill we solve most of/all critical issues, they will not get in dapper
[03:14] <[zero] > Hi im trying to get mp3's to work in amarok, I know I have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list then "sudo apt-get update" it hasnt worked, what else do I need to do to the file?
[03:14] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[03:14] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:15] <Bilford> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:15] <pipitas> ivoks: you can put *anything* CUPS into Dapper now -- it can't be more b0rken than it is right now
[03:16] <pipitas> :-)
[03:16] <pipitas> ivoks: what's the URL for the 1.2.1 packages?
[03:16] <ivoks> pipitas: i agree with you it doesn't work as it should, but these are upstream bugs, only
[03:16] <ivoks> pipitas: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/cups/
[03:17] <[zero] > Iv also done what it says on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats but it still just skips the files :/
[03:17] <ivoks> pipitas: this should fix issues with older communication with older CUPS server (upstream bug)
[03:17] <DarkSpirit> adric on ?
[03:17] <DarkSpirit> Damn wrong channel
[03:17] <Bilford> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[03:17] <pipitas> ivoks: no, it is *your* bug too, if you ship it as you do. And no, 1.2.0 from CUPS.org did not have *these* bugs that Dapper has. You patched the CUPS.org pristine sources, which work -- but your patches make them not work.
[03:18] <ivoks> pipitas: can you be specific about a bug?
[03:18] <znh> Hello
[03:18] <[zero] > Bilford: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/755466
[03:19] <znh> Is 3.5 ever going to be in the repo's?
[03:19] <Hobbsee> znh: for breezy? no
[03:19] <pipitas> ivoks: 1) printing from 1.2.0 pristine to a 1.2.23 CUPS server works flawlessly; but is broken in Dapper
[03:19] <znh> Hobbsee: dapper
[03:19] <Hobbsee> !tell [zero]  about multiverse
[03:19] <pipitas> ivoks: 2) the CUPS web admin interface works flawlessly in 1.2.0 pristine, but is broken in Dapper
[03:19] <ivoks> pipitas: cups 1.2 changelog: The scheduler no longer uses chunking in responses to clients - this caused problems with older versions of CUPS
[03:19] <Bilford> zero, you said you enabled multiverse, right
[03:19] <bojan> hello, I have breezy badger, and want to upgrade to dapper. On the site in the instructions it says: "In Adept go to Manage Repositories and change "breezy" to "dapper""  Does that mean replace _everywhere_ where it says breezy to dapper?
[03:19] <ivoks> pipitas: web interface is disabled in ubuntu
[03:20] <ivoks> pipitas: has been since warty
[03:20] <bojan> im just not sure exactly what that means...
[03:20] <pipitas> ivoks: 3) the network printer auto-discovery works flawlessly in 1.2.0 pristine, but is mis-configured in Dapper
[03:20] <ivoks> pipitas: (make that 1.2.1 changelog)
[03:20] <ivoks> pipitas: which part is misconfigured?
[03:20] <Hobbsee> znh: they should be there already.......of kde, i take it
[03:20] <Hobbsee> bojan: yes
[03:20] <ivoks> pipitas: Browsing is off, listen port in on localhost
[03:20] <znh> Hobbsee: you sure?
[03:20] <ivoks> pipitas: there is an option to enable browsing
[03:21] <ivoks> pipitas: but cups stays listening on localhost
[03:21] <Hobbsee> znh: kde3.5 has been in dapper for months.  kde3.5.3 however, is in a separate repo.
[03:21] <bojan> so can't I just do find and replace breezy --> dapper in kate on my sources.list?
[03:21] <pipitas> ivoks: I know that the web interface is "disabled" in Ubuntu (which I regard as a crime against usability), but the "README" hints to restore the web admin interface don't work, and hence it is broken
[03:21] <Hobbsee> bojan: you can
[03:21] <ivoks> pipitas: this is something you bloged about, but didn't check whole dapper's cups configuration
[03:21] <znh> Hobbsee: okay
[03:21] <Sergi0> znh: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:21] <Bilford> zero, you there?
[03:22] <Bilford> [zero] ,you there
[03:22] <[zero] > Bilford:  yeh
[03:22] <Bilford>  you said you enabled multiverse, right
[03:22] <[zero] > yeh
[03:22] <Bilford> ok, you have to do this
[03:22] <Bilford> add multiverse after the lines that have universe
[03:22] <pipitas> ivoks: the misconfiguration of network printer auto-discovery is in that you disable the new "snmp" backend
[03:22] <Bilford> so the line will say  universe multiverse
[03:22] <[zero] > ah ok
[03:22] <ivoks> pipitas: that's a feature request, not a bug
[03:23] <pipitas> ivoks: it *is* a bug if you do disable features that are in by default, and that are described by the shipped documentation!
[03:23] <bojan> Is "sudo apt-get update", followed by "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" the same as "Fetch Updates" + "Full Upgrade" + "Commit" In Adept?
[03:23] <Hobbsee> bojan: yep
[03:24] <bojan> ok
[03:24] <bojan> I just like to do my upgrade out of X and KDE
[03:24] <pipitas> ivoks: more, I even *bet* that all of you are completely clueless (and that is not meant as an insult, please!) about the snmp backend and what it does....
[03:24] <bojan> just in case
[03:25] <ivoks> pipitas: please, read the changelog for cups 1.2.1 and snmp
[03:25] <ivoks> pipitas: part with "The SNMP backend did not compile on systems"...
[03:26] <ivoks> pipitas: dapper is shipped for couple of archs, not only i386 and amd64
[03:26] <pipitas> ivoks: I do not need to read the changelog for 1.2.1 and snmp -- I was the one that caused most of the changelog entries there :-)
[03:26] <ivoks> pipitas: nice :)
[03:27] <pipitas> ivoks: so which archs didnt the snmp backend compile on for Dapper?
[03:27] <ivoks> pipitas: :)
[03:28] <pipitas> ivoks: and if it doesn not compile on PPC, does that mean you will deprive i86 users from its features too, by disabling it for all?
[03:28] <ivoks> pipitas: let's move along... snmp will be something we will discuss and include if compiles ok on all archs
[03:29] <ivoks> pipitas: surly for edgy, but i don't guarantee for dapper
[03:29] <ivoks> pipitas: we had a feature freeze
[03:29] <ivoks> pipitas: snmp was introduced in rc3
[03:29] <pipitas> pah!
[03:29] <kbrooks> ivoks: in what?
[03:29] <kbrooks> oh
[03:29] <ivoks> kbrooks: cups
[03:30] <mnk> hi all
[03:30] <mnk> i am trying to install k3b :) but i keep getting an error: Bad header line [IP: 85.133.25.8 80] 
[03:30] <mnk> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/kcontrol_3.5.2-0ubuntu26_i386.deb  Bad header line [IP: 85.133.25.7 80] 
[03:30] <mnk> any ideas what the problem is?
[03:30] <mth`MAW> mnk: what about updating to kde3.5.3
[03:30] <mnk> i'm using gnome :)
[03:30] <pipitas> ivoks: snmp was introduced around RC3, that's true. And it worked fine in 1.2.0 release.
[03:31] <mth`MAW> mnk: BUT using k3b :)
[03:31] <mth`MAW> Fone
[03:31] <mth`MAW> fine
[03:31] <mnk> so how do i update that then?
[03:31] <mth`MAW> No idea about your problem
[03:31] <Bazzi> mnk: switch to a different mirror
[03:31] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.3
[03:31] <mth`MAW> you tried: apt-get install k3b
[03:31] <ubotu> hmm... kde3.5.3 is to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[03:31] <mth`MAW> ?
[03:31] <ivoks> pipitas: that's irrelevant... it was introduced too late in release cycle
[03:31] <mnk> yeah i did
[03:31] <mnk> that's where the error comes from
[03:32] <mnk> how can i switch mirrors?
[03:32] <ivoks> pipitas: let's forget snmp and disscuss about other bugs
[03:32] <mth`MAW> No Idea... Did you ever had problemes like this?
[03:32] <mnk> nope
[03:32] <ivoks> pipitas: it's something that can be enabled
[03:32] <mth`MAW> mhm...
[03:32] <ivoks> pipitas: by user, of course
[03:32] <mnk> how can i switch mirrors, bazzi?
[03:33] <mth`MAW> mnk: thats weird... may be a server problem...
[03:33] <Bazzi> mnk: edit sources.list
[03:33] <mth`MAW> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:33] <Bazzi> use de.archive.ubuntu.com for example
[03:33] <mth`MAW> ^^  good idea
[03:33] <pipitas> ivoks: OK, I won't discuss that any more with you then. Just to say as a last thing: it all sounds like an excuse. You introduced and shipped a b0rken CUPS in Dapper in any case, and that's a fact that has not been prevented by "feature freeze" or whatever excuse...
[03:34] <pipitas> ivoks: I'll test your 1.2.1 packages tomorrow
[03:34] <mnk> cool thank you for that
[03:34] <mnk> i will try that now
[03:34] <pipitas> ivoks: just ping me, if you build newer once, please
[03:34] <ivoks> pipitas: i agree it's shipped broken
[03:34] <ivoks> pipitas: and we knew that, but there was no time to do anything more
[03:34] <ivoks> pipitas: fixes will be in updates
[03:35] <ivoks> pipitas: probably for couple of days
[03:35] <scast> I don't knowww... should I install kubuntu? lol
[03:36] <pipitas> ivoks: you even *knew* that you're shipping a b0rken CUPS???  And you didn't warn your users in any Release Notes then?? That's surely something that's unexcusable :-(   At least, this should never happen again!
[03:36] <[zero] > no luck with the mp3 playback :/
[03:37] <ivoks> pipitas: well, in the same way we knew some parts of KDE were broken
[03:37] <ivoks> pipitas: there is no perfect software
[03:37] <kivanio> hi
[03:37] <equinoxeB> Hi there...
[03:37] <DeadS0ul> oh no?
[03:37] <DeadS0ul> *cough* mac *cough* =D
[03:37] <ivoks> pipitas: that's why we release fixes for our users
[03:37] <kivanio> i have a problem with amarok
[03:37] <equinoxeB> could someone help me with kde develop code completion?
[03:37] <equinoxeB> it doesn't work...
[03:38] <kbrooks> xum
[03:38] <pipitas> ivoks: but this *does* *not* *print* *at* *all*. A printing software can't be more fundamentally broken that this.
[03:38] <kbrooks> um
[03:38] <ivoks> pipitas: it prints
[03:38] <kivanio> it's skiping the musics :/
[03:38] <ivoks> pipitas: it doesn't print in special cases
[03:38] <kbrooks> um
[03:38] <teequ> Hi. I upgraded to Kubuntu 6.06 and now sounds don't work. I had tweaked them before to use gstreamer if I remember correctly, but now there is no gstreamer installed at all...
[03:38] <cfraz89> ivoks: you need to install extracodecs for xine
[03:38] <pipitas> ivoks: It does not even install a printer
[03:38] <ivoks> pipitas: that's live cd
[03:38] <kbrooks> can someone pasteebin the output of adept --help ?
[03:38] <cfraz89> ivoks: run 'sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs'
[03:39] <ivoks> cfraz89: that was for someone else, i guess :)
[03:39] <pipitas> ivoks: it currently installs on harddisk -- I'll let you know if it is different from the Live CD
[03:39] <cfraz89> oh sorry
[03:39] <cfraz89> kivanio: : run 'sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs'
[03:39] <ivoks> pipitas: well, it is :)
[03:40] <equinoxeB> please... help! kde develop code completion... :((
[03:40] <cfraz89> equinoxeB: whats wrong? kdevelop?
[03:40] <MidMark> guys why nvidia-glx doesn't change my nv to nvidia in xorg.conf file?
[03:40] <kbrooks> equinoxeB: why do you think its necessary?
[03:40] <cfraz89> you can use code completion
[03:41] <cfraz89> you have to tell kdevelop where the includes are
[03:41] <equinoxeB> because I need to see class mebers when I type.... let's say... Class::
[03:41] <equinoxeB> or... object.
[03:41] <cfraz89> yep you can do that
[03:41] <equinoxeB> MS VC style...
[03:41] <equinoxeB> but... HOW?
[03:41] <equinoxeB> :((
[03:41] <kivanio> cfraz89: ok, i'm try
[03:41] <equinoxeB> I'm trying to write a qt program
[03:41] <teequ> is there some good guide to sound setup in Kubuntu?
[03:42] <cfraz89> equinoxeB: go to project->Project options
[03:42] <equinoxeB> ...
[03:42] <equinoxeB> ok...
[03:42] <cfraz89> then go to c++ specific
[03:42] <cfraz89> then go to code completion
[03:42] <cfraz89> then click on add
[03:42] <equinoxeB> ok...
[03:43] <cfraz89> if you want to write qt program, use the qt importer
[03:43] <equinoxeB> qt...
[03:43] <equinoxeB> :)
[03:43] <equinoxeB> 10x A LOT
[03:43] <cfraz89> np
[03:44] <kivanio> cfraz89: tanks
[03:45] <kivanio> equinoxeB: tanks
[03:45] <SnF> which Linux OS would you guys recommend for networking and security penetration testing?
[03:45] <mnk> Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/k3b/k3b_0.12.14-0ubuntu7_i386.deb  Bad header line
[03:45] <mnk> hmm same problem with new server too
[03:46] <mth`MAW> THAT is weird
[03:46] <mnk> odd, huh?
[03:46] <mth`MAW> yep
[03:46] <mth`MAW> mhm, what about:
[03:47] <mth`MAW> wget http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/k3b/k3b_0.12.14-0ubuntu7_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i k3b_0.12.14-0ubuntu7_i386.deb
[03:47] <mth`MAW> ?!
[03:47] <mth`MAW> should work...
[03:47] <mth`MAW> It is not like it should be...
[03:48] <mth`MAW> but may be it works
[03:49] <x3on> I have a problem with k-network-manager, it handles my wired ethernet fine, but when I try to use wireless, it hangs on 28% "Activation stage: configuring device"
[03:49] <cfraz89> kivanio: np
[03:49] <joe_attaboy> x30n: I had the same issue when I installed dapper on my Dell laptop.
[03:50] <x3on> yeah, it's a laptop joe :)
[03:50] <cfraz89> x3on: do you have rt2500 by any chance?
[03:50] <x3on> did you resolve it?
[03:50] <joe_attaboy> The system detects the Netgear wifi card, but it hangs on initializing with a wep key
[03:50] <x3on> it's a compaq presario x1000
[03:50] <joe_attaboy> yes...
[03:50] <joe_attaboy> here's what you have to do...
[03:50] <x3on> I'm trying to use a wpa key
[03:51] <cfraz89> hi noteventime
[03:51] <joe_attaboy> Open /etc/network/interfaces as root and see if there's an entry in there for your wifi adapter. There was one in there for mone, but the wep key was missing
[03:51] <joe_attaboy> more...
[03:51] <x3on> ahh
[03:51] <joe_attaboy> When I finally got the gui tool to add the key it added it in as "s:##########"
[03:52] <joe_attaboy> Once I removed the "s:" prefix and rebooted, it worked.
[03:52] <joe_attaboy> there seems to be some issues with the KDE tools and the proper configuration fo wifi
[03:52] <joe_attaboy> of wifi
[03:53] <x3on> yeah, shame, as the rest of the app is very functional and handy :)
[03:53] <x3on> all there is in the config = "iface eth1 inet dhcp"
[03:54] <joe_attaboy> you should have lines after that for the wireless tools commands
[03:54] <joe_attaboy> do you have ethernet and wireless in the compac?
[03:54] <x3on> yep :)
[03:54] <moldor> hi all - nyone here know which kicker would periodically just close ?
[03:55] <joe_attaboy> you should show more than one. in my dell, it's strange: breezy detected the wifi as eth1, but in dapper, it's eth2
[03:55] <x3on> yeah there is
[03:55] <x3on> eth0 and eth1, i just wrote that one line cos thats all there is for eth1 :)
[03:55] <x3on> no wpa key etc
[03:56] <x3on> WPA not WEP remember, that's why I'm using networkmanager :)
[03:56] <DeadS0ul> can you use any wireless card for WPA or does it have to WPA complaint?
[03:56] <Healot> x3on: did you use ndiswrapper? or native linux driver
[03:57] <Healot> most ndis'ed drivers won't do WPA well
[03:57] <kbrooks> what switches does the adept command support?
[03:57] <mth`MAW> mnk: success?!
[03:57] <cfraz89> kbrooks: nothing special
[03:57] <mnk> nope
[03:57] <cfraz89> just the kde and qt options
[03:57] <mnk> oh sorry
[03:57] <mnk> hold on
[03:57] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:57] <kbrooks> cfraz89: ... huh?
[03:57] <cfraz89> for adept
[03:58] <cfraz89> Usage: adept [Qt-options]  [KDE-options] 
[03:58] <DeadS0ul> heh
[03:58] <mnk> i dcd
[03:58] <mnk> ok it is downloading it
[03:58] <mnk> very odd though
[03:58] <kbrooks> cfraz89: well, does adept accept the options that synaptic supports
[03:58] <mnk> i don't understand why it didn't work thru apt-get
[03:58] <cfraz89> no, i don't think so
[03:58] <Healot> adept is a qt application, it doesn't fucntion like apt-get or aptitute
[03:58] <barros> hi all.. I'm installing kubunto 6.06 here, but it hanged after installing kubuntu-desktop..
[03:59] <Healot> you work the packages using the interface
[03:59] <mth`MAW> me either
[03:59] <DeadS0ul> cfraz89: still using xgl?
[03:59] <barros> it show: Installed kubuntu-desktop and hangs
[03:59] <serenity> hi
[03:59] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: in and out
[03:59] <kbrooks> cfraz89: well, how do i set packages i want to install, through the CLI?
[03:59] <barros> anyone got this problem too||
[03:59] <apokryphos> barros: are you instaling from the terminal?
[03:59] <serenity> my wlan-crad was dtected, but don't connect to my router connected with dhcp
[03:59] <cfraz89> kbrooks: sudo apt-get install packagename
[03:59] <barros> yes.. text mode install
[03:59] <DeadS0ul> kbrooks: you can use apt instead
[03:59] <kbrooks> DeadS0ul: "set".
[04:00] <kbrooks> cfraz89: "set".
[04:00] <apokryphos> barros: where does it hang, on what, and how long you been waiting?
[04:00] <Healot> barros: no unfortunately, but if you got a vlank screen during install, then the bug already filed
[04:00] <kbrooks> i'm not a newbie or anything like that
[04:00] <cfraz89> ok, sorry
[04:00] <slow-motion> can i use the dapper cd to boot and mount my old /home to burn it on cd?
[04:00] <DeadS0ul> ah, whaddya set?
[04:00] <barros> it hangs in the install progress
[04:00] <cfraz89> do you mean like a cli adept?
[04:00] <kbrooks> cfraz89: no
[04:00] <barros> show: Installed kununtu-desktop
[04:00] <apokryphos> barros: cancel it and retype the command
[04:01] <barros> i'm using the alternate CD
[04:01] <apokryphos> slow-motion: what?
[04:01] <DeadS0ul> slow-motion: I know you can use knoppix for that
[04:01] <apokryphos> barros: on, text-installer you mean
[04:01] <barros> yes
[04:01] <moldor> slow-motion: yeah - I did that today with mine - it'll be mounted under /media/<something>
[04:01] <cfraz89> sorry kbrooks, im lost
[04:01] <kbrooks> i mean like the way dpkg lets you "set selections", except through adept
[04:01] <cfraz89> ah
[04:01] <barros> I can access the consoles, but the install is hanged
[04:01] <DeadS0ul> ah
[04:01] <slow-motion> i have fucked up my system by tried to upgrade online
[04:01] <Toothpick> Hello, is there a tool for remaster the kubuntu live cd?
[04:02] <apokryphos> slow-motion: what's mucked up?
[04:02] <cfraz89> kbrooks: probably dselect?
[04:02] <slow-motion> the boot sector
[04:02] <apokryphos> slow-motion: you can use the liveCD to manage your partitions/hd yes
[04:02] <barros> apokryphos, I got the same issue installing it in a vmware
[04:02] <mnk> k3b depends on kcontrol;
[04:02] <moldor> slow-motion: tried just reinstalling grub ?
[04:02] <apokryphos> barros: is the CD ok, did you check the md5sum?
[04:02] <slow-motion> moldor how?
[04:02] <serenity> my wlan-crad was detected, but don't connect to my router connected with dhcp
[04:02] <barros> nope.. will check now
[04:02] <apokryphos> mnk: so?
[04:03] <slow-motion> there was a grub bash
[04:03] <apokryphos> ?
[04:03] <slow-motion> then i get my windows cd and rewrote the boot sector
[04:03] <slow-motion> now i'm under windows and want to save my old /home
[04:04] <cfraz89> lol aptitude has minesweeper in it
[04:04] <apokryphos> slow-motion: is your /home not on a seperate partition?
[04:04] <slow-motion> yes
[04:04] <Healot> cfraz89: you just know that?
[04:04] <apokryphos> slow-motion: so why would you need to save your /home?
[04:04] <cfraz89> just found out
[04:04] <moldor> slow-motion: forget it under Wintendo - it can't read the linux disk formats (can barely read its' own !!)
[04:04] <apokryphos> slow-motion: just reinstall Kubuntu and specify the same /home partition to act as /home
[04:05] <moldor> apokryphos: his pr0n collection, of course !
[04:05] <apokryphos> moldor: not in /home? ;-)
[04:05] <slow-motion> moldor try total commander with the extfs plugin. that can read linux
[04:05] <moldor> apokryphos: y not ?  my wife can't see it there (non-system-wide /pome !!!)
[04:05] <slow-motion> no, i have to save and delete my /home
[04:05] <Healot> heh, I won't play a text-based minesweeper, but to waste time, yes I would
[04:05] <pussfeller> also e2fs explorer
[04:06] <apokryphos> slow-motion: why?
[04:06] <ryanakca> anybody know when cups will be fixed?
[04:06] <cfraz89> lol
[04:06] <apokryphos> moldor: =)
[04:06] <moldor> slow-motion: can it ?  handy to know if I ever need to abuse myself and run Windows again!
[04:06] <slow-motion> the structure is mucked uop
[04:06] <pussfeller> also there is a thing which will supposedly allow you to mount ext2 parts in windows, good luck
[04:06] <apokryphos> ryanakca: what problem are you having? cups works fine here
[04:06] <dr_willis> ryanakca:  whats broke with it?
[04:06] <barros> apokryphos, where can I check the real md5||
[04:06] <apokryphos> slow-motion: well there's no point deleting it now. Get your new install sorted and then muck around with it
[04:06] <dr_willis> it works for me also. I did have to install some xtra printer/foomatic drivers however i recall. (with synaptic)
[04:06] <barros> sorry, found this
[04:06] <barros> :DD
[04:06] <apokryphos> barros: open it in K3b
[04:07] <jpatrick> anyone with good C++ skills here?
 slow-motion: well there's no point deleting it now. Get your new install sorted and then muck around with it < the point is, that my /home is mucked
[04:07] <slow-motion> and it is the damn best point
[04:07] <moldor> pussfeller: I've heard that it can only read ext2 tho, not ext3
[04:07] <apokryphos> slow-motion: mucked in what way?
[04:07] <apokryphos> slow-motion: "mucked" is not every descriptive at all
[04:07] <pussfeller> when I mount a usb drive, konqy is using D00m fonts i had used like a month ago, and I have set the fonts to default in the kcontrol thingee....
[04:08] <barros> apokryphos, the md5sum is OK
[04:08] <Healot> jpatrick: #c or #c++
[04:08] <apokryphos> barros: hm, then the install should go fine... that's odd
[04:08] <slow-motion> i can read everything from the home partionen, but the partion does not exist
[04:08] <jpatrick> Healot: sure
[04:08] <Healot> hope you want answer there
[04:08] <barros> it is the second time.. so strange
[04:08] <apokryphos> slow-motion: you can read a partition that doesn't exist?
[04:08] <apokryphos> ....
[04:08] <slow-motion> yep
[04:08] <barros> apokryphos, :DDD
[04:09] <barros> got it.
[04:09] <Toothpick> For those curious I found my answer http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm
[04:09] <moldor> we are in the presence of a deity !
[04:09] <barros> it was just a LONG delay..
[04:09] <slow-motion> i will boot knoppix now and try with that
[04:09] <pperez> hello everyone. The following question might have already been asked, but I after searching the forums, I have yet to find a possible solution that solves my problem
[04:09] <barros> thanks, and sorry for the confusion
[04:09] <ryanakca> apokryphos: printing threw smb... it worked fine before upgrading to dapper... but now :S
[04:09] <moldor> so anyone had kicker spontaneously shut down on them ?
[04:09] <pperez> After my recent system upgrade (to dapper), I have lost the ability to play multimedia (divx, mpeg, etc)
[04:10] <ryanakca> apokryphos: btw... printing threw samba
[04:10] <pperez> Xine gives out errors like "unsupported format (format-type)"
[04:10] <moldor> pperez: same thing happened to me this afternoon - easyubuntu soon fixed that...
[04:10] <Healot> pperez: libxine-extracodecs is what you need
[04:11] <Healot> xine uses different package for OpenAVI and MPEG now
[04:11] <pperez> Healot: why isn't libxine-extracodecs install by default?
[04:11] <jpatrick> pperez: not free
[04:11] <pperez> Healot: thanks, I am installing right now
[04:11] <pussfeller> ideological objections to using proprietary codecs
[04:12] <pperez> is libxine-extracodecs w32codecs renamed?
[04:12] <Healot> pperez: it doesn;t exist in breezy
[04:12] <apokryphos> jpatrick: it is actually, there are free codecs for mp3; it's just that i.e. mp3 is a patented format
[04:12] <apokryphos> and the owners want like 60,000 for it to be used
[04:12] <apokryphos> greeedy
[04:12] <Healot> pperez: different packages they are... dapper's developer made a different package for xine
[04:13] <pussfeller> franhauffer hasn't being suing the world tho, they should get credit for that
[04:13] <mnk> is libxine-extracodecs for totem too?
[04:13] <apokryphos> mnk: totem can use xine, so yes.
[04:13] <mnk> cos my totem doesn't seem to want to play anything from the net :)
[04:13] <mnk> ok thanks
[04:13] <apokryphos> though kaffeine is better :P
[04:13] <Healot> mnk: for xine mostly... totem uses (gstreamer) by default
[04:13] <Healot> but totem-xine uses libxine
[04:14] <mnk> ok cool
[04:14] <scast> I am going to hit the install shortcut. Anything that I should know before ?
[04:14] <Healot> totem-xine, mnk, two different metapackages
[04:14] <pussfeller> hmm i think adept-updater needs some work....
[04:14] <mnk> ???
[04:14] <mnk> :S
[04:14] <kbrooks> scast: the shortcut isnt magic
[04:15] <kbrooks> scast: it does not do everything for you
[04:15] <pussfeller> its blanked out for like 5 miutes... maybe its running in python or something
[04:15] <Healot> mnk: totem and totem-xine are two different meta packages
[04:15] <ryanakca> apokryphos, dr_willis: When I try reinstalling the printer, threw KControl I select the driver "E210 gdi" for my E210 printer that I connect to threw samba. I get this error, and yes, I am in administrator mode: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/755548
[04:15] <mnk> oic
[04:15] <Healot> totem uses gstreamer plugins and totem-xine uses libxine
[04:15] <mnk> i'm using totem
[04:15] <mnk> oic
[04:16] <mnk> so how do i get the codecs installed for gstreamer?
[04:16] <Healot> gstreamer* packages
[04:16] <mnk> Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/kcontrol_3.5.2-0ubuntu26_i386.deb  Bad header line
[04:16] <mnk> DRAT - it didn't work
[04:16] <pussfeller> well, xine will generally work better than gstreamer
[04:16] <sckbast> kbrooks: exactly what I have to hit?
[04:16] <Healot> apt-cache search gstreamer for list of gstreamer plugins
[04:16] <sckbast> Nothing is hard after you install gentoo. lol
[04:16] <Healot> gstreamer*mad is for MPEG1/2/3
[04:17] <mnk> there's like five million results :)
[04:17] <Healot> mnk: bleh
[04:17] <apokryphos> ryan__: my best guess is for you to file a bug report
[04:17] <apokryphos> * ryanakca
[04:17] <moldor> scast: but after you install Gentoo your brain is totally friend and you *can't* do anything else !
[04:17] <ryanakca> apokryphos: kk
[04:18] <scast> moldor: LIE!
[04:18] <apokryphos> !bugs
[04:18] <moldor> scast: :-)
[04:18] <scast> well be right back. Going to install this kubuntu.
[04:18] <apokryphos> !bug
[04:18] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[04:18] <scast> But as somebody says, Install does not do everything for me!
[04:18] <scast> be right back.
[04:18] <x3on> does anyone know where K-Network-Manager writes WPA keys to?
[04:18] <mnk> how do i install a .deb package? i tried to download it manually and install it
[04:19] <moldor> mnk: dpkg -i <packagename>
[04:19] <barros> just finished the installation.. that was great, my RT2500 D-Link USB was detected!! great
[04:19] <Healot> barros: RT2xxx wifi is the best for linux at the moment
[04:19] <Healot> and of course Prism
[04:19] <h3sp4wn> Atheros is best
[04:19] <apokryphos> mnk: what is it you're trying to install?
[04:19] <barros> is there some wpa utillity shipped with ubuntu or have I to use wpa_supplicant||
[04:19] <mnk> k3b
[04:20] <mnk> on gnome
[04:20] <mnk> kcontrol
[04:20] <barros> Healot, fortunately...:DD
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> barros: with ralink you need to use the wpa support built into the driver
[04:21] <barros> h3sp4wn, hmm.. how do I do that|| i used fedora with ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant before
[04:21] <pussfeller> so the d-link usbs are the ones to get, then?
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> Not really the dapper support for ralink is worse than breezy
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> And you can't use network manager with ralink stuff
[04:22] <pussfeller> hmm i was waiting for the new kernel to get current ralink drivers
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> I think they are going to switch to the open source rt2xx ones for edgy
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> (It said so on the bug report about all the problems with rt2500 in dapper)
[04:24] <pussfeller> the rtxxx is the rewrite of the original drivers from scracth?
[04:24] <h3sp4wn> barros: Does the card come up as ra0 ?
[04:24] <h3sp4wn> barros: Does the card come up as or rusb0 ?
[04:24] <barros> h3sp4wn, rusb0
[04:24] <barros> I was able to see my router
[04:25] <Healot> your physical router?
[04:25] <barros> yes
[04:26] <Healot> or you can spawn it over the network? hehe
[04:26] <barros> huh||
[04:27] <h3sp4wn> barros: http://pastebin.com/755566 (thats how to do wpa psk needs to go into /etc/network/interfaces set ssid and psk) then run sudo ifdown rusb0 && sudo ifup rusb0
[04:27] <barros> h3sp4wn, thanls, will try it out
[04:28] <barros> dows it support wpa2+aes||
[04:29] <barros> *does
[04:29] <h3sp4wn> No
[04:29] <barros> :((
[04:29] <vinboy> i have a bash script, how do I make it leave the console open while the program runs?
[04:30] <ryanakca> apokryphos: Ok. I changed to localhost:631, I selected E210 gdi driver instead of E210 driver, no errors. I now get this dialog: http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/screenshot2.png       what do I enter?
[04:30] <h3sp4wn> barros : ralink does have a driver that does support it but you would have to build it yourself - the opensource one would let you use wpa2 via wpa_supplicant
[04:30] <Healot> yeah, btw the compilation should be easy
[04:30] <barros> h3sp4wn, I'll first try this one.. then I cant try wpa2
[04:30] <barros> *can
[04:30] <cfraz89> do the opensource drivers work with networkmanager?
[04:31] <catholikos> hi all
[04:31] <barros> have to disconnect, will get the notebook to my desktop.. be back later.
[04:31] <barros> thanks all
[04:31] <Healot> !ati
[04:31] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
[04:32] <h3sp4wn> cfraz89: Should do (wuth wext) but you will have much less trouble if you just use atheros stuff (I think the radio's etc are generally of higher quality)
[04:32] <cfraz89> oh ok
[04:33] <cfraz89> thanks
[04:33] <cfraz89> i have a rt2500
[04:33] <cfraz89> using standard ubuntu drivers
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> And you can't use network manager ?
[04:33] <cfraz89> is kind of unreliable, doesnt support nm
[04:33] <cfraz89> no
[04:33] <cfraz89> it hangs on activating device
[04:33] <cfraz89> and sometimes the wireless card freezes
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> But it was fine in breezy ? I had the same thing so got an atheros one
[04:33] <cfraz89> and i have to reload the rt2500 module
[04:34] <cfraz89> no, had same probs in mandriva
[04:34] <cfraz89> i think its a driver thing
[04:34] <h3sp4wn> My rt2500 worked flawlessly with breezy just not dapper
[04:34] <cfraz89> oh ok
[04:35] <cfraz89> worked with nm?
[04:35] <h3sp4wn> Never wanted to use it
[04:35] <cfraz89> oh ok
[04:35] <cfraz89> i like it
[04:35] <cfraz89> using it on my laptop
[04:38] <balor> Where is libqt-mt.so on Dapper?  I can only find libqt-mt.so.3?
[04:41] <libben> Hmm, gonna dual boot kubuntu again with xp, but i allready have a huge partition with alot of things. anyone noticed any problems with the NTFS write yet?
[04:41] <vinboy> slow??
[04:41] <vinboy> i never use it
[04:42] <h3sp4wn> cfraz89: My laptop has a cardbus rt2500 that works fine with wpa_supplicant (with the opensource drivers but currently under kanotix)
[04:42] <cfraz89> h3sp4wn: ah cool. i might try them out
[04:43] <cfraz89> aren't the standard ralink drivers opensource too?
[04:43] <cfraz89> otherwise they wouldnt be in ubuntu?
[04:43] <h3sp4wn> cfraz89: They are opensource but they are not very well maintained (by ralink)
[04:43] <cfraz89> ah ok
[04:44] <h3sp4wn> cfraz89: They have a new opensource driver (which supports wpa2)
[04:44] <cfraz89> yeah, i read about it
[04:44] <cfraz89> thanks!
[04:44] <cfraz89> ill give it a go
[04:45] <h3sp4wn> Network manager needs it to work through wext (and the new ones still have their own wpa in them) though
[04:47] <cfraz89> oh ok
[04:48] <jeroenvrp> system:/media
[04:49] <adamant1988> well I'm installing kubuntu on my system now :)
[04:49] <jeroenvrp> after re-creating myself as user, cdrom/dvd's are not auto-mounted
[04:49] <cfraz89> im getting that problem after some upgrade
[04:50] <cfraz89> media:/ no longer picks up my cd's
[04:50] <cfraz89> but it picks up flash drive
[04:50] <jeroenvrp> maybe it has to with /etc/fstab
[04:50] <cfraz89> mebe
[04:50] <jeroenvrp> cfraz89: what is your cdrom/dvd line
[04:51] <Vose> hi
[04:51] <cfraz89> it is /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:52] <cfraz89> i can mount it manually fine
[04:52] <cfraz89> i think it might have been upgrade to kde 3.5.3 that borked it
[04:52] <jeroenvrp>  /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0  udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:52] <jeroenvrp> same as mine
[04:52] <Vose> I tryed added the wine web stie to adapt and messed up by inputing the wrong thing and now adapt will not open saying that the apt database is messed up
[04:52] <cfraz89> hm
[04:52] <jeroenvrp> cfraz89: do you have kde 3.5.3?
[04:52] <cfraz89> yep
[04:53] <jeroenvrp> ok
[04:53] <cfraz89> you?
[04:53] <Vose> any documentation on how to reinstall adept?
[04:53] <jeroenvrp> to
[04:53] <cfraz89> 3.5.2?
[04:54] <jeroenvrp> cfraz89: no 3.5.3
[04:54] <cfraz89> hmm
[04:54] <cfraz89> i think it is 3.5.3 bug
[04:54] <cfraz89> packaging maybe
[04:55] <Bazzi> cfraz89: confirming
[04:55] <Bazzi> 3.5.3 broke auto mounting
[04:55] <cfraz89> ahh
[04:55] <cfraz89> hmm we'd better bug report
[04:56] <jeroenvrp> Bazzi: is this a kde-issue or a kubuntu-issue
[04:56] <Bazzi> I don't know
[04:56] <jeroenvrp> I have another user with kde 3.5.3 that has a working automount
[04:56] <Bazzi> I suspect kubuntu
[04:57] <GazzaK> 3.5.3 for me still mounts samba drive, but I have lost the little icon on the desktop, but it is still there in the area I created the mount point, so I just created a link to it
[04:57] <Bazzi> yeah I lost the desktop mount icons as well
[04:57] <GazzaK> Bazzi: just create a link to them?
[04:58] <GazzaK> create new, link to location (url)
[04:59] <Bazzi> was too lazy to do so ;)
[04:59] <equinoxeB> auto-mount works for me... kde 3.5.3
[04:59] <cfraz89> hmm
[05:01] <jaims> hola
[05:01] <jaims> alguien aqu ha actualizado a dapper?
[05:02] <jeroenvrp> cfraz89: Bazzi: found a workaround
[05:02] <jeroenvrp> remove ,noauto from /etc/fstab
[05:02] <jaims> he visto que alguna gente ha tenido problemas al actualizar ubuntu...
[05:02] <jeroenvrp> now it works
[05:02] <jeroenvrp> very strange
[05:02] <cfraz89> thanks!
[05:02] <jaims> glups, sorry, chosen the wrong channel...
[05:02] <cfraz89> but does that mean the computer will try to mount it at boot?
[05:03] <Vose> Anyone have amuinut to look over an error mesage?
[05:03] <Vose> I posted it to http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/755647
[05:04] <Vose> I am trying to reinstall adapt
[05:05] <cfraz89> Vose: try sudo apt-setup
[05:05] <gael_> hello bonjour des francophones ici?
[05:05] <Vose> ok
[05:05] <wanama> hello people!
[05:05] <cfraz89> gael_: #kubuntu-fr ?
[05:06] <cfraz89> hi wanama
[05:06] <Vose> when asked for a CD I used kbuntu right?
[05:06] <gael_> okay many thanks
[05:06] <cfraz89> yep
[05:06] <jaims> good bye
[05:06] <cfraz89> gael_: np
[05:06] <wanama> hi have a problem with the new 6.0.6 LTS. Ive upgraded yesterday from the the dapper beta, and everything seemed went ok..
[05:06] <wanama> but ive got a very big problem, i think some issue related to khtml
[05:07] <wanama> e
[05:07] <jeroenvrp> cfraz89: maybe, but thats not a problem
[05:07] <cfraz89> oh ok
[05:07] <cfraz89> cool
[05:07] <wanama> evrytime i launch konqueror or simply evry khtml app like the kununtu help my system freezes
[05:07] <jeroenvrp> wanama: strange
[05:07] <wanama> any1 have experienced my same problem? any help is appreciated, as i dont know what to do
[05:07] <jeroenvrp> wanama: it is a new fresh install
[05:08] <jeroenvrp> do you have a new homedir?
[05:08] <wanama> nope, ive upgraded via apt
[05:08] <equinoxeB> do a fresh install :P
[05:08] <jeroenvrp> wanama: can you try with another user?
[05:08] <jeroenvrp> create a new one in the system settings
[05:08] <wanama> mmmm thats a try i can do, create a new user and try to replicate the 'bug'
[05:08] <jeroenvrp> yep
[05:09] <jeroenvrp> thats bughunting tip #1 :-)
[05:09] <cfraz89> jeroenvrp: thanks for the tip!
[05:09] <wanama> ok...ill let u know soon :) thanx to all for the tips :D
[05:09] <jeroenvrp> wanama: and if that is the problem
[05:10] <Vose> It now shows permission but it does not recognize the cd?
[05:10] <scast> How do I install nvidia driver?
[05:10] <jeroenvrp> just remove /home/you/.kde/share/apps/khtml and /home/you/.kde/share/config/khtmlrc
[05:11] <jeroenvrp> wanama: better move it
[05:12] <wanama> ok jero
[05:12] <wanama> thanx again
[05:14] <Vose> I think I got apt-setup to work by retreaving from html site. But that did not fix the problem
[05:16] <Vose> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/755668
[05:18] <Vose> I just want to reinstall adapt so I can try again to install wine (I am a complet n00b)
[05:19] <Vose> So if anyone knows how to do that let me know. Thank you
[05:19] <MidMark> is it normal that nvidia driver won't automatically change the xorg.conf file from nv to nvidia?
[05:19] <cfraz89> MidMark: yes
[05:20] <MidMark> cfraz89: non era automatico una volta?
[05:20] <cfraz89> Vose: sudo apt-get install wine
[05:20] <amarok3b> hello all
[05:20] <cfraz89> MidMark: sorry?
[05:20] <MidMark> cfraz89: sorry, is it automated in breezy or in the previous nvidia packages?
[05:20] <cfraz89> MidMark: no, i dont think it ever has been automated
[05:20] <cfraz89> but its only one line to change
[05:21] <MidMark> cfraz89: yes I know, but is not user friendly damn!
[05:21] <cfraz89> lol
[05:21] <MidMark> cfraz89: thanx
[05:21] <cfraz89> it comes with helper programs to enable it for you
[05:21] <cfraz89> np
[05:21] <cfraz89> nvidia-xconfig
[05:21] <MidMark> cfraz89: you have surround 4.x or 5.x with kubuntu?
[05:21] <cfraz89> nope
[05:21] <MidMark> didn't know how to work with amarok
[05:21] <cfraz89> just crappy laptop speakers
[05:22] <cfraz89> did you try the xine engine settings?
[05:22] <MidMark> someone that has dolby surround?
[05:22] <cfraz89> MidMark: amarok has option for surround
[05:22] <cfraz89> Vose: what happened to your adept?
[05:23] <MidMark> cfraz89: yes I know, but they don't work, I cannot hear nothinf
[05:23] <cfraz89> oh
[05:23] <Vose> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/755680
[05:24] <Vose> my adept will not open now
[05:24] <MidMark> cfraz89: don't know if there is something to change
[05:24] <cfraz89> MidMark: can i see your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:24] <cfraz89> reinstalling adept wont help
[05:24] <cfraz89> sorry i meant vose
[05:24] <Vose> I tryed inserting the web site found at wines into the list of update location and did not include correct peremeters so It will no longer open
[05:25] <cfraz89> Vose, could you please paste /etc/apt/source.list ?
[05:25] <cfraz89> you will have to edit it
[05:25] <cfraz89> manually
[05:25] <Vose> what is the command to get the list?
[05:26] <cfraz89> go to /etc/apt/ in konqueror
[05:26] <Vose> oh ok
[05:26] <cfraz89> then right click on sources.list
[05:26] <cfraz89> and go to actions->edit as root
[05:27] <cfraz89> delete that line you added
[05:27] <cfraz89> and paste in:
[05:27] <cfraz89> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt breezy main
[05:27] <cfraz89> if your using breezy
[05:27] <MidMark> cfraz89: this is my goal -> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDapperWhatStillNeedsAConsole
[05:27] <cfraz89> or
[05:27] <cfraz89> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[05:28] <cfraz89> for dapper
[05:28] <Vose> cfarza http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/755686
[05:28] <cfraz89> ok
[05:28] <cfraz89> delete the first line
[05:28] <cfraz89> MidMark: i see
[05:29] <cfraz89> Vose: deleted the wine line?
[05:29] <Vose> and save
[05:29] <cfraz89> paste this in to replace it:
[05:29] <cfraz89> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt breezy main
[05:29] <khalid> I have a question...
[05:30] <khalid> IS there a way to view a list of all available packages in the archives using apt-get? I hate the KDE package manager
[05:30] <cfraz89> Vose:then save
[05:30] <cfraz89> it should be ok
[05:30] <Vose> ok I get a kate error
[05:30] <cfraz89> did you edit it as root?
[05:31] <Vose> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/755692
[05:31] <cfraz89> dont think you did
[05:31] <cfraz89> you have to edit as root
[05:31] <Vose> root is a consept I have understood yet I am signed it as administrator is that the same thing?
[05:31] <cfraz89> is different
[05:31] <Vose> or does it have to do with sudo permition?
[05:31] <cfraz89> yes, its the sudo thing
[05:32] <cfraz89> in ubuntu, being admin doesnt mean you can do administrative stuff easy
[05:32] <Vose> hmm ok
[05:32] <h3sp4wn> khalid: apt-cache search if you are looking for something specific or http://packages.ubuntulinux.org has all the packages on it
[05:32] <Vose> safty seems to be at the termanal leval or something like that
[05:32] <cfraz89> run kdesu 'kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[05:33] <cfraz89> Vose:go to menu, press run, paste in: kdesu 'kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[05:33] <h3sp4wn> khalid: or just run sudo aptitude (from the command line - interactive aptitude is pretty good)
[05:34] <cfraz89> i have to sleep now
[05:34] <cfraz89> work in 7 hours
[05:35] <cfraz89> Vose, after you run that, delete the line, paste in the one i gave, you, and adept should work again
[05:35] <Vose> It opned kate then I did the delet and past but still same error
[05:35] <cfraz89> then fetch updates, and you should be able to get wine
[05:35] <Vose> when I try to save
[05:35] <cfraz89> hmmm
[05:35] <cfraz89> thats not good
[05:35] <cfraz89> try running konqueror as root, then check permissions on the file
[05:36] <cfraz89> make sure owner can write
[05:36] <Vose> I will post error message
[05:36] <cfraz89> i have to sleep now, sorry
[05:36] <cius> does easyubuntu work on kubuntu?
[05:36] <cfraz89> cya
[05:36] <Vose> ok thank you though
[05:36] <Vose> bye
[05:36] <cfraz89> no problem, good luck
[05:36] <h3sp4wn> cius: probably why not try #easyubuntu
[05:36] <cfraz89> check the permissions forom root konqueror
[05:36] <cfraz89> good luck
[05:37] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: it does
[05:37] <kbrooks> cius: yes
[05:37] <khalid> One more question, this is noobish, but I've tried all day and can't figure it out.  How do I change my screen resolution in KDE?
[05:37] <Vose> root konqueror? not sure what that means
[05:37] <cius> kbrooks, I was just wondering because I used it last night but I still can't play mp3s
[05:38] <cius> using amarok btw
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> cius: Are you using xine backend ? should be
[05:39] <cius> h3sp4wn, yes
[05:39] <cius> and I have the output set to autdetect
[05:39] <Vose> kate is saying I don't have permition to write a file http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/755700
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> cius: sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs
[05:39] <cius> I have a 5.1 AC 97 setup
[05:39] <cius> h3sp4wn, thanks, I'll try that
[05:40] <h3sp4wn> cuis: It requires multiverse to be enabled which easyubuntu should have done
[05:40] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: um
[05:40] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: do u misunderstand?
[05:40] <jaims> bye
[05:41] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: easyubuntu doesnt overwrite your sources.list. it generates a brand new one and then uses that
[05:41] <cius> checking my repos through adept doesn't show multiverse as enabled
[05:41] <cius> kbrooks, that might be why
[05:41] <h3sp4wn> cius: enable multiverse from adept then
[05:42] <cius> would that be the backports or do I need to manaully add it?
[05:42] <h3sp4wn> kbrooks: I probably do misunderstand
[05:43] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: it DOES include the original sources.list, though
[05:44] <h3sp4wn> kbrooks: Does it use unauthenticated packages ?
[05:45] <h3sp4wn> kbrooks: Does the libxine-extracodecs just come from multiverse or do you have your own version of that package ?
[05:45] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: former
[05:45] <x3on> does anyone know where KNetworkManager writes its WPA ssid/key info to ??
[05:46] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: wee dont have our own versions of pre-existing packages
[05:47] <cius> adding multiverse manually worked, but I wonder why easyubuntu didn't install it?
[05:47] <MidMark> someone that take effects by surround can help me? I cannot hear from rear speaker...
[05:47] <kbrooks> cius: it should have
[05:48] <davidhouse> hi guys. you know the key to the right of Alt Gr on a lot of keyboards? the one that executes right-click action in windows? i want to make it into an Alt key. i guess xmodmap could do this, but i'm not sure which keycodes i'd need. http://paste.lisp.org/display/20801 is the output from xev when i press the key
[05:48] <cius> kbrooks, maybe it spit out an error I didn't see, but I ran it last night and it didn't install libxin-extracodecs
[05:48] <cius> libxine-extracodecs*
[05:49] <davidhouse> is this feasible?
[05:49] <kbrooks> cius: i don't use kubuntu
[05:49] <cius> you think that may have had something to do with it?
[05:54] <khalid> I'm trying to compile Kmuddy and I get this error: configure:6321: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[05:54] <khalid> What does that mean?
[05:55] <pussfeller> how do I uninstall amarok without removing anything else?
[05:55] <crimsun> khalid: you probably want to apt-get install build-essential && apt-get build-dep kdenetwork
[05:55] <linux_galore> khalid: means the kernel and libstdc++ dont match
[05:56] <crimsun> linux_galore: that's usually not the culprit
[05:56] <linux_galore> crimsun: is most of the time for me
[05:56] <crimsun> linux_galore: the kernel wouldn't enter into /lib/cpp ...
[05:56] <evert_> I'm reconfiguring my xserver-xorg , but he asks witch mouse i've got : a ImPS/2 or a ExplorerPS/2 ..; wich one o i have to choose ?
[05:57] <linux_galore> crimsun: usually find Ive updated gcc or a lib and the kernel doesnt sync so i cant compile it
[05:57] <crimsun> linux_galore: trust me, the kernel doesn't have to do with /lib/cpp
[05:57] <weedar> Anyone familiar with the wiki at ubuntu.com? I want to add a reader-comment to a page and wonder if I have to do it "manually" or if there is a trick to it :)
[05:57] <crimsun> weedar: log in and edit the page.
[05:59] <linux_galore> evert_: dont know read the bottom of your mouse
[05:59] <Firetech> anyone here running XGL/Compiz?
[05:59] <erov> anyone have any success with ATI drivers?
[06:00] <linux_galore> evert_: what model of mouse do you have
[06:01] <evert_> I've  got a wireless mouse of logitech
[06:02] <teequ> Webbrowsing reveals that a lot of people are facing problems with sounds in Kubuntu 6.06. I can't get sounds working, any general advice
[06:02] <teequ> for me cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp produces sound
[06:02] <nixternal> erov: i have had success with ati drivers...well the update fglrx drivers for my radeon 9800
[06:02] <teequ> but aplay /dev/urandom doesn't
[06:03] <erov> nixternal: ok.. I was about to ask a question but I think I've gotten it to work now
[06:03] <nixternal> i used the wiki for a little bit of support when i did mine...i ran into all kinds of problems
[06:03] <erov> I tried to play a quake2 modded game.. and it was slow as hell.. I was like.. no way this machine is pretty decent.. it should be flying
[06:03] <evert_> I'm reconfiguring my xserver-xorg , but he asks witch mouse i've got : a ImPS/2 or a ExplorerPS/2 ..; wich one o i have to choose ? 	I have got a wireless logitch mouse ...
[06:04] <erov> it was using those default mesa drivers
[06:04] <linux_galore> evert_: use the explorer options that what i did works fine
[06:04] <evert_> ok thx , i'll try it
[06:04] <nixternal> i still need to do more tweaking because it seems my older gf4 mx is better with glx then the ati radeon 9800
[06:04] <nixternal> the default mesa drivers are junk
[06:04] <linux_galore> <- has a logitech cordless optical mouse
[06:04] <james_xxx> when a CD burner says 16x10x40x, what does that mean?
[06:05] <nixternal> im in the process of tweakin' all of the buttons for it
[06:05] <ubuntu> Wow Kubuntu 6.06 is better.
[06:05] <nixternal> lol
[06:05] <weedar> that is the motto
[06:05] <nixternal> shameless plug
[06:05] <linux_galore> lol
[06:05] <ubuntu> A lot has changed. (I was just using 5.10 yesterday) lol
[06:05] <evert_> i'm going to restart x server with nvidia drivers
[06:05] <evert_> hope evertything went ok
[06:05] <nixternal> ahhh...ubuntu upgraded to ey
[06:06] <evert_> I did i to much
[06:06] <nixternal> dist-upgrade ubuntu?
[06:06] <evert_> i'm just to dumb for installing nvidia drivers i think :P
[06:06] <weedar> thanks crimsun, I was afraid you'd say that
[06:06] <ubuntu> No. I removed 5.10 and wanted to test 6.06. and I like it better. Few issues I had with 5.10 where konqueur opened everythign in tab seems to be gone
[06:07] <nixternal> alrighty ubuntu...tell the pupeteer it's time to leave...so you can run all by yourself helping out the channel ;)
[06:07] <ubuntu> I am going to install it now :D
[06:07] <ubuntu> I wish
[06:07] <nixternal> haha
[06:07] <ubuntu> I am a newbie.
[06:07] <nixternal> no0buntu?
[06:07] <nixternal> lol
[06:08] <LinuxNewbie2> I was here this morning aka from 1am till 6am using Kubuntu 5.10. I learned 2 things about it. 1 Programs are hard to install 2) Konsole commands are Case Sensitive.
[06:09] <LinuxNewbie2> 6.1 has Add/Remove Programs :D
[06:09] <crimsun> [6.06] 
[06:09] <LinuxNewbie2> Whatever
[06:10] <LinuxNewbie2> I selected "London" why does it says GMT +1
[06:10] <crimsun> because London is on BST iirc
[06:10] <Riddell> LinuxNewbie2: because that's the time zone you're in
[06:10] <LinuxNewbie2> London = GMT 0
[06:10] <crimsun> erm, isn't it BST (GMT+1) right now?
[06:10] <SkrotFFS> I thought england was GMT, as I'm in norway and I'm GMT+1
[06:10] <LinuxNewbie2> England is GMT
[06:11] <davidhouse> not at the moment it's not
[06:11] <SkrotFFS> And norway is GMT+1, or CET or something
[06:11] <SkrotFFS> Maybe it has to do with daylight savings or whatever it's called
[06:11] <crimsun> Current time zone offset:	UTC/GMT +1 hour
[06:11] <crimsun> Time zone abbreviation:	BST - British Summer Time
[06:11] <LinuxNewbie2> i think it seems it will set the hour by 1
[06:11] <davidhouse> we're in summer time, which is GMT+1.
[06:12] <khalid> I know I'm being a pest, but one more: How to I change my screen resolution in KDE?
[06:13] <LinuxNewbie2> System Settings
[06:13] <LinuxNewbie2> Display
[06:13] <LinuxNewbie2> So what do I call the "START" button in Kubuntu.
[06:13] <LinuxNewbie2> K Menu ?
[06:14] <davidhouse> yep.
[06:14] <xgllo> the kart
[06:14] <erov> very nice now
[06:14] <khalid> I dont see a display.  The closest thing was SCreen REsize and Rotate, but it didnt do anything
[06:14] <davidhouse> khalid: try K Menu -> System Settings
[06:15] <khalid> I spent hours earlier trying to figure it out. Heh
[06:15] <LinuxNewbie2> The Partitioner is a bit different. I nearly formated my C:\ which contains windows. lol
[06:16] <davidhouse> khalid: K Menu -> System Settings -> Hardware -> Display (an icon which looks like a monitor with an X in it)
[06:16] <LinuxNewbie2> How do I let Kubuntu create the parition and the swap disk ?
[06:17] <equinoxeB> How do I put the KasBar to the top of the screen?
[06:17] <davidhouse> equinoxeB: try right clicking and looking for a 'configure' link
[06:18] <equinoxeB> It does have on
[06:18] <equinoxeB> one
[06:18] <linux_galore> equinoxeB: grab it and drag it there
[06:18] <equinoxeB> but no... top..left
[06:18] <LinuxNewbie2> I created 19Gb ext3 and 1.51gb swap that is correct right ?
[06:18] <james_xxx> has anyone figured out a fix for the issue with screen savers not working in KDE 3.5.3?
[06:18] <davidhouse> equinoxeB: Arrangement -> change the Settings For dialogue to point to your KasBar -> click the top-left blank button in the grid of 12
[06:19] <linux_galore> equinoxeB: same as moving a file
[06:19] <conor> i have a small problem
[06:20] <conor> might be big
[06:20] <equinoxeB> got it
[06:20] <equinoxeB> 10x to all
[06:20] <linux_galore> conor: play it some more it will get bigger lol
[06:20] <mongey> haha
[06:20] <linux_galore> with it*
[06:20] <linux_galore> stop,, you will go blind
[06:21] <LinuxNewbie2> I created 19Gb ext3 and 1.51gb swap that is correct right ?
[06:21] <mongey> anyway
[06:22] <mongey> i cant play music from other partions
[06:22] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie2: you mean / is 19Gb and swap is 1.5gb,  varies
[06:22] <mongey> aka mt nfts one
[06:22] <linux_galore> LinuxNewbie2: I have lots of tam so I dont have a big swap partition
[06:22] <linux_galore> ram*
[06:22] <LinuxNewbie2> For a second I thought I just formated my E:\
[06:23] <linux_galore> mongey: NTFS isnt really well documented
[06:24] <linux_galore> mongey: need to use something called captive
[06:24] <linux_galore> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[06:24] <mongey> how do i install firefox
[06:24] <iNiku> um, ubuntu has ntfs read support out of the box
[06:24] <linux_galore> mongey:  apt-get install firefox
[06:25] <linux_galore> mongey: it should already be installed
[06:25] <LinuxNewbie2> I also got to sex the EXT3 to active right ?
[06:25] <cius> is there a setting to have windows open in the same position they last closed at?
[06:25] <linux_galore> then again maybe not
[06:26] <equinoxeB> mogey: are the ntfs partitions mounted?
[06:26] <linux_galore> does kubuntu cd only have konqueror still
[06:26] <GazzaK> linux_galore: yes
[06:26] <linux_galore> GazzaK: aaah
[06:27] <pussfeller> how do i remove apps without removing deps
[06:27] <LinuxNewbie2> It was a lot easier in 5.1
[06:27] <linux_galore> GazzaK: Ive been running this rig for ages now and its hardly Ubuntu any more
[06:27] <mongey> emmmmmmmmm
[06:27] <mongey> well i can access them yes
[06:27] <linux_galore> pussfeller: dont remove the app
[06:27] <mongey> throught /media
[06:28] <pussfeller> i need to so i can roll my own
[06:28] <LinuxNewbie2> Isn't there a guide on how to install 6.06 ?
[06:28] <linux_galore> pussfeller: just roll your own thats what i did ,then just remove the binary file
[06:28] <pussfeller> linux_galore: that seems like cheating
[06:29] <linux_galore> pussfeller: no its thats simple
[06:29] <pussfeller> and then I have to deal with it again everytime theres an upgrade
[06:29] <mongey> equinoxeB: i cant pm yet
[06:29] <mongey> have to reg
[06:29] <linux_galore> pussfeller: type whereis firefox   remove the binary and then install the compiled one
[06:29] <linux_galore> pussfeller: dont have to deal with anything
[06:30] <linux_galore> pussfeller: nothing broken because the firefox binary is just a startup program
[06:31] <bkh> Hello... I installed Ubuntu, remembered how much I despise gnome dialog boxes and added Kubuntu desktop, everything seems to be happy, but is there a kde program that will sit on the panel and inform me of updates?
[06:31] <cius> okay, i set Konqueror's homepage, but it still opens with the information "Konqueror, Conquer your desktop" page...?
[06:32] <LinuxNewbie2> I made the ext3 and swap partitions. I set the ext3 as active. I click next and some weird thign comes up and ext3 parition is not there
[06:33] <linux_galore> bkh: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22850
[06:33] <d3a> "SET failed on device rausb0: invalid argument
[06:33] <d3a> impossible to access to my wireless network
[06:34] <d3a> someone has an idea
[06:34] <linux_galore> cius: because the icon your clicking on in the properties not only open koqueror but defines a link to a startup page. riught click on the icon -> properties  last tab and remove the ling address
[06:34] <bkh> Isn't that just a QT version of Synaptic?  I'm talking about something like update_manager that checks for updates on a somewhat regular basis and just lets me know...
[06:34] <linux_galore> link*
[06:34] <cius> linux_galore, ah ok, thank you!
[06:35] <iNiku> bkh: yes, adept has a component like that, called adept-notifier
[06:35] <iNiku> bkh: should be installed by default with kubuntu
[06:36] <linux_galore> bkh: in the Application tab under right click properties it should show in the command section konqueror --profile webbrowsing  nothing else
[06:37] <LinuxNewbie2> How do I do setup 6 ?
[06:37] <ganymed_> hallo
[06:37] <LinuxNewbie2> Since I cannot choose the ext3 partition
[06:38] <linux_galore> bkh: it sits in your taskbar as an icon when a new package is added to the repository the icons flashes
[06:38] <bkh> iNiku: Thanks
[06:38] <ganymed_> how can i use the opera breezy package so that it does not make apt complain all the time about unresolved dependencies (opera 8.54, working on dapper)
[06:38] <ganymed_> ?
[06:38] <linux_galore> bkh: most kde apps also have a taskbar component
[06:38] <iNiku> ganymed_: use opera 9
[06:38] <iNiku> there's beta 2 available and it works great
[06:38] <iNiku> has been perfectly stable for me and it's much nicer than 8
[06:39] <bkh> Thanks
[06:39] <cius> ah okay, its view profiles, thats what I needed to edit to solve both my problems
[06:39] <ganymed_> iNiku: well, that's a matter of taste. i would still use 7.54 if i could
[06:39] <LinuxNewbie2> Is there a guide on how to install 6.06 ?
[06:40] <ganymed_> how do i request my irc password (sry for the noob question)
[06:40] <iNiku> ganymed_: well, sites work better in 9 than in 8, let alone 7... 9 has also been more stable for me and I like the new featurs. but to each his own
[06:40] <linux_galore> ganymed_: you dont ask for one you tell the server what it is
[06:40] <iNiku> features*
[06:41] <ganymed_> linux_galore: i have forgotten mine...
[06:42] <ganymed_> iNiku: i guess i will try it... i'll have to, that's what i don't like
[06:42] <iNiku> ganymed_: anyway, I believe opera 8 isn't officially supposed to work on dapper
[06:42] <iNiku> ganymed_: yeah, I hear you
[06:43] <iNiku> ganymed_: but still, I really like 9
[06:43] <ganymed_> iNiku: i know, but it's just some stupid package naming problem, anything else works perfectly... i hate when i have to change sth. just because of some "policy"
[06:43] <iNiku> ganymed_: for what it's worth to you :)
[06:44] <murphy> hi guys
[06:44] <ganymed_> any ideas about the password? i am not familiar to irc commands...
[06:45] <iNiku> ganymed_: yeah, well, things change and old cruft has to be cleaned up, that's mainly a good thing. but I agree it does kind of suck that the current stable opera version cannot officially be used on dapper
[06:45] <iNiku> ganymed_: do you mean your nickserv password?
[06:45] <mongey> will wine work on dapper
[06:45] <murphy> My firefox keeps crashing as long as I try to add a new bookmark (I am running the latest kubuntu)
[06:45] <murphy> does anyone has the same problem?thanks
[06:46] <LinuxNewbie2> Is there a guide on how to install 6.06 ?
[06:46] <ganymed_> iNiku: yes, i've had it in konversation, but i reinstalled from "scratch", lost it and never saw it again (in my mind)
[06:46] <crimsun> LinuxNewbie2: from what initial vector?
[06:46] <LinuxNewbie2> Step 4-6
[06:47] <iNiku> ganymed_: it can be recovered if you gave your email address while registering
[06:47] <alex_> hello; is this where i go for help in kubuntu?
[06:47] <iNiku> ganymed_: unfortunately I don't know how :/
[06:47] <khalid> alright guys.  I'm out.  Thanks for all the help.  Thanks to all the help you get, I'll be an Ubuntu users for a long time.
[06:48] <LinuxNewbie2> equinoxeb:I got a unregistered nickname I cannot send you messages
[06:48] <ganymed_> and another thing: i click on anything that is piped through kdesu and sometimes it seems to run "nowhere", meaning nothing starts (e.g. synaptic, adept). i click again, and it works. that's still like in breezy. any ideas?
[06:48] <SkrotFFS> I've got the same problem, ganymed_. Atleast when I tried starting adept yesterday
[06:49] <ganymed_> iNiku: i gave mine, even had to talk to an irc op. but how is the command to receive the nickserv password?
[06:49] <Vose> #winehq
[06:49] <ganymed_> SkrotFFS: it's an old one. wonder, why nobody has come to fix it....
[06:49] <SkrotFFS> ganymed_: Seems mine started now. It just took a lot of time
[06:49] <SkrotFFS> I was just about to try again
[06:50] <iNiku> ganymed_: dunno... you may have to talk to an op for that. then they'll reset your password and mail the new one to the email you gave when registering
[06:50] <ganymed_> SkrotFFS: very unsatisfying
[06:50] <linux_galore> ganymed_: usually its  /set password  password
[06:50] <MidMark> guys I have added a printer with admin right (sysem panel -> printers) but in openoffice isn't listed
[06:50] <MidMark> I have to relog?
[06:50] <alex_> I am having a problem opening /etc/apt/sources.list through terminal
[06:50] <SkrotFFS> ganymed_: Agreed
[06:50] <alex_> can anyone help?
[06:50] <ganymed_> iNiku: i'll see... shit, i am getting old
[06:50] <iNiku> linux_galore: he's asking about how to recover his lost password
[06:50] <iNiku> linux_galore: not how to set one
[06:51] <linux_galore> iNiku: aaah large sums of money changing hands
[06:51] <linux_galore> heh heh
[06:51] <iNiku> hehe
[06:51] <alex_> I am having a problem opening /etc/apt/sources.list through terminal.  Can anyone help?
[06:51] <iNiku> alex_: what problem?
[06:51] <ganymed_> iNiku: have you recognized a speed increase when starting opera?
[06:51] <iNiku> alex_: you need root permission for it, ie. sudo
[06:51] <iNiku> ganymed_: yes, definitely
[06:52] <MidMark> alex_: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:52] <iNiku> ganymed_: if you mean compared to opera 8
[06:52] <ganymed_> since i have been on dapper, opera starts much faster (still 8.54)
[06:52] <alex_> iniku: i run sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list or sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:52] <iNiku> ganymed_: oh... I never used 8 on dapper
[06:52] <ganymed_> no, compared to breezy
[06:52] <ganymed_> kontact is the same
[06:52] <iNiku> alex_: you should use kdesu for kde apps
[06:52] <linux_galore> anyway time for bed
[06:53] <ganymed_> the whole system "feels" faster (maybe subject to my imagination, who knows)
[06:53] <klerfayt> ganymed_: can't you use "katapult" to launch your favorite applications faster?
[06:53] <iNiku> alex_: sudo for console editors
[06:53] <alex_> huh??
[06:53] <iNiku> ganymed_: yes, I agree. and if you use kde, the 3.5.3 upgrade will make things feel even faster, especially kde startup
[06:54] <klerfayt> how I should use katapult?
[06:54] <iNiku> I only used breezy briefly, though... ran debian before, then the hd died on me, got a new one and installed breezy, then upgraded to dapper almost right away
[06:54] <iNiku> klerfayt: press alt-space and type the first few letters of the command you want
[06:54] <iNiku> klerfayt: or rather, the first few letters of the app name
[06:55] <ports> hows the new Dapper Kubuntu running?
[06:55] <Shuriken> klerfayt: it's not necessary an app or a command, it could be a song or a bookmark :)
[06:56] <alex_> iNiku: what do u mean?
[06:56] <iNiku> alex_: sorry, about what?
[06:56] <ports> ive still got Breezy on my laptop
[06:56] <iNiku> ports: much better :)
[06:56] <klerfayt> so katapult is like menu? (I was thinking it was used to reduce applications 1st startup time)
[06:56] <PPaFin> I just installed dapper to my laptop, works fine.
[06:56] <iNiku> alex_: you should use kdesu if you need to start a kde application as root
[06:56] <dusty> Anyone configured dual monitors in kubuntu ? 1 onboard and 1 agp graphics card, 2 crt monitors?
[06:57] <iNiku> alex_: and sudo if you need to run some other command as root (such as an editor that works on the console, like vi or emacs or nano)
[06:57] <alex_> i'm tring to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:57] <dusty> Does the screen resolution have to be the same on each monitor or can one be bigger than the other, as ones a 64mb graphics card and the other a mere 16mb one :|
[06:57] <ports> equinoxeB whats new in it?
[06:57] <PPaFin> I tried suse 10.1 and it's still having update tool problems, so dapper came in...
[06:57] <iNiku> alex_: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:57] <alex_> okay
[06:57] <Shuriken> dusty: yes, dualscreen works :)
[06:58] <ganymed_> klerfayt: what's katapult
[06:58] <ports> ganymed_ a launcher program..
[06:58] <dusty> How do i go about doing it?
[06:58] <alex_> thanks
[06:58] <ports> ganymed_ in windows you had Start > Run and if you typed a filepath.. it would launch that.... in Katapult you start typing out the first few letters of a program name.. and itll launch that program
[06:59] <iNiku> ports: after launching katapult with alt-space, of course :)
[06:59] <iNiku> or by clicking the icon in the system tray
[07:00] <ports> iNiku i use ctrl alt L
[07:00] <ganymed_> whoo, looks impressive
[07:00] <iNiku> ports: sure, you can change the hotkey... but the default is alt-space
[07:00] <ganymed_> and that's faster?
[07:00] <ports> iNiku i know.
[07:00] <LinuxNewbie2> Before you can install 6.06 do you got to MOUNT the HDD first ?
[07:00] <LinuxNewbie2> I mean Mount the ext3 partition first?
[07:01] <dusty> Shuriken, ?
[07:01] <ports> ganymed_ well ya figure.. you type much faster than you move the mouse.. especially if you're launching Konsole like i do a lot... ctrl alt L "kon" enter
[07:01] <Shuriken> dusty: did you check the wiki about dualscreen ?
[07:01] <ganymed_> ports: well i press alt + space... and now?
[07:02] <iNiku> ganymed_: just start typing
[07:02] <Bazzi> ports: F12 kon<tab> I win!
[07:02] <iNiku> ganymed_: the first few letters of some command in the kde menu
[07:02] <ganymed_> normally i use apwal, but that does not do anything to performance
[07:02] <dusty> Shuriken, link? :)
[07:02] <Shuriken> dusty: well, i'm looking after it :)
[07:02] <chakie> has anyone here done an update by just editing /etc/apt/sources.list and updating? did it go well? caveats?
[07:03] <ports> Bazzi lol.. f12 isnt registered to anything else?
[07:03] <iNiku> does anyone have a pointer to a good .deb package creation howto?
[07:03] <ports> ganymed_ did a little transparent black box show up in the middle of the screen?
[07:04] <Bazzi> ports: I use yakuake
[07:04] <Shuriken> dusty: in fact, i use the french wiki for configure my dual monitors, but i'm not able to find the englisg wiki page >__<
[07:04] <ports> iNiku did you actually want to make a brand new app, or just convert an rpm to deb?
[07:04] <dusty> where is the wiki?
[07:04] <troy> good day folks :)
[07:04] <dusty> the english version?
[07:04] <iNiku> ports: make a new deb
[07:04] <iNiku> ports: out of something I compile locally
[07:04] <ganymed_>  /msg NickServ@service.de operwho
[07:04] <Bazzi> iNiku: #ubuntu-motu can give you plenty of urls
[07:04] <iNiku> what's motu?
[07:04] <Bazzi> masters of the universe
[07:05] <iNiku> ahh :)
[07:05] <Shuriken> dusty: it's very easy, you just need to add 5 lines in your X configuration file
[07:05] <ports> iNiku ah sorry. no idea.  i forgot the name of the app i used to convert RPM to Deb.. but in Adept if you search for RPM it leads you to it.. i think the name started with an A
[07:05] <dusty> REALLY?
[07:05] <dusty> Shuriken, msg me them :)
[07:05] <iNiku> ports: alien does that
[07:05] <dusty> Shuriken, remember its an agp card and onboard
[07:05] <ports> iNiku ah thats it... take a look at this.. http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8047723203.html  - it might be useful
[07:05] <iNiku> ports: it may not be a good idea though, it can wreak havok on the package dependencies
[07:06] <jpatrick> iNiku: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[07:06] <ports> iNiku i forgot what i converted.. but it was something ridiculous.. i think it was Limewire..
[07:06] <pussfeller> !restricted
[07:06] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:06] <iNiku> ports: hehe, that's actually the one I found, too, but it doesn't have the details on using fakeroot and stuff, nor the guidelines for making a proper ubuntu package
[07:06] <iNiku> jpatrick: thanks, that looks good
[07:07] <ports> iNiku do you know of any good p2p apps besides torrents to run on kubuntu?
[07:07] <ubuntu> Hola
[07:07] <dusty> !wiki
[07:07] <erov> amule
[07:08] <iNiku> ports: don't really know... I use limewire occassionally and azureus or ktorrent for torrents
[07:08] <iNiku> ports: I don't do much p2p anyway
[07:08] <ganymed_> ports: yes
[07:08] <ports> iNiku ah.. i really dislike limewire.. on my XP computers i use Cabos..its a lot like Napster (original) meets iTunes..
[07:08] <dusty> Title Search: "dual monitors"
[07:08] <dusty> 0 results of about 10681 pages. (0.77 seconds)
[07:08] <dusty> thats a search done on the wiki, Shuriken- ?
[07:09] <pussfeller> dc++ used to work really well, but i think it has gotten bad press in the cd community
[07:09] <pussfeller> klibidio is pretty awesome for ng binaries
[07:09] <pussfeller> mldonkey used to be awesome, but i don't know if they are still deving it
[07:09] <mongey> how the hell do i install programs
[07:10] <ports> mongey did you download the *.deb package?
[07:10] <pussfeller> sudo apt-get install program
[07:10] <ganymed_> i have to go. thx for the help
[07:10] <ports> np ganymed_
[07:10] <ganymed_> ciao
[07:10] <MidMark> with printers: why i have to add a printer as user and not admin? openoffice see it only in this way
[07:11] <ports> MidMark why would you add a printer as an admin?
[07:11] <dusty> !wiki dual monitors
[07:11] <mongey> can i change my password
[07:12] <mongey> rpm -q wine
[07:12] <erov> mldonkey is still being developed.. it's very good as well
[07:12] <mongey> woops
[07:12] <ports> mongey for root? sure
[07:12] <erov> uses web interface by default.. but there are many "front-ends" or GUI's for it
[07:13] <mongey> got it i think
[07:13] <ports> mongey https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:13] <_anilk> i need help with kubuntu LTS
[07:14] <_anilk> on kubutu 6.06 LTS - app icons are not being picked properly
[07:15] <brosio> a repository with libdvdcss for amd64 ?
[07:15] <_anilk> on kubutu 6.06 LTS - app icons are not being picked properly
[07:15] <ports> _anilk dont repeat...
[07:15] <dergringo> what ist the useability of "dapper-proposal" repos?
[07:15] <_anilk> sorry
[07:15] <MidMark> with printers: why i have to add a printer as user and not admin? openoffice see it only in this way
[07:15] <no_name> How do you mount drives on Live CD? Or can you? My drives are FAT but they normally run windows, I thought it would be fine
[07:16] <ports> brosio try getting libdvdcss2
[07:16] <Blissex> !fat32
[07:16] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:17] <no_name> thanks
[07:19] <brosio> ports: i0ve compiled it from source
[07:19] <brosio> but i get segfault with vlc
[07:20] <_anilk> ports: on kubutu 6.06 LTS - app icons are not being picked properly
[07:20] <jtmoney> hmm, what's the command to upgrade from 5.05 to 6.06 again?
[07:20] <jtmoney> adept get distro or something
[07:20] <roc> a question: how to get xgl activated in kubuntu? I just installed it but now I don't know how to activate it
[07:21] <roc> jtmoney: easier to do it trough adept...
[07:21] <roc> jtmoney: just updated my self ;)
[07:21] <jtmoney> so just let it download the packages?
[07:21] <jtmoney> i figured it would require more than that
[07:21] <ixiion> re
[07:21] <jtmoney> but that's brilliant if that's the case ;)
[07:21] <erov> Full Upgrade
[07:22] <jtmoney> ahh, gotcha
[07:22] <sorush20> just using kubuntu dapper with ndiswrapper , I have lost my network wlan0 with ndiswrapper and I don't know what do to do to get it. back.. on doing sudo modprobe ndiswrapper , eth1 is added to iwconfig list and I am unable to sudo ifup -a the eth1, any help/
[07:22] <PyroMithrandir> anyone else here running kde 3.5.3?
[07:22] <ixiion> question: since 2 days kopete 0.12 final is released is there any kubuntu package available yet ?
[07:23] <roc> jtmoney: open up adept and go to manage repositories, change all to dapper and apply, click full upgrade, click fetch upgrades, and then commit
[07:23] <PyroMithrandir> my system tray changed the size it needs to be for it to stack 2 icons
[07:24] <mongey> ok im  goin to ask
[07:24] <jtmoney> roc: thanks
[07:24] <PPaFin> Any good audio editor, like audacity ? Audacity is lacking ...
[07:24] <mongey> im trying to play music from my nfts HD and it opens up but doesnt play
[07:25] <jtmoney> mongey: search wiki.ubuntu.com for "mp3"
[07:25] <jtmoney> you want to follow the restrictedformats tutorial i think it's called
[07:25] <mongey> !mp3
[07:25] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:25] <jtmoney> yeah
[07:25] <jtmoney> not working?
[07:25] <mongey> huh
[07:25] <jtmoney> mongey: follow that guide
[07:25] <KDEfanboy> what's a good desktop video capturing program? like xvidcap, but better
[07:26] <mongey> ah
[07:26] <mongey> i thought it was a drive problem not codec
[07:27] <roc> does anyone know how to get xgl working on kubuntu?
[07:28] <roc> answer meeee you maggots...
[07:28] <keybdfailure> i have gnome and kde both installed, in gnome my keyboard is properly set but not in kde. what is the config file that is causing such a nuisance in kde ?
[07:28] <keybdfailure> anyone can help me ?
[07:29] <dusty> Shuriken-, hey man, i plugged the agp card in and now the agp card/monitor work but the onboard one doesn't even come on as if no power gets to it.
[07:30] <sledge> !help fglrx
[07:30] <keybdfailure> !help keyboard layout
[07:31] <sledge> fglrx initializes fine, but glxinfo says it's still using mesa gl.
[07:31] <sledge> known issue/bug?
[07:31] <cius> why is it that when I try downloading a .deb from kde-look.org it automatically opens it with a text editor?
[07:31] <_anilk> on kubutu 6.06 LTS - app icons are not being picked properly
[07:32] <Shuriken-> dusty: did you check my PMs ?
[07:32] <roc> |:.... does anyone know how to enable xgl on kubuntu? feel free to say no if you don't know...
[07:33] <jpatrick> !xgl
[07:33] <ubotu> [xgl]  "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[07:33] <erov> cius.. right click a .deb file and check what it is set to open with.. you can remove / change order of apps .. or check what your browser has set for it to do with .deb files
[07:33] <cius> erov, my browser says its set to open them with ark, not kate
[07:34] <erov> strange..
[07:34] <cius> I would prefer it simly ask me if I want to save a file rather than automatically downloading it and opening it
[07:34] <chavo> you can't right click the links on kde-look, they aren' direct links
[07:34] <erov> well remove any information from the browser (which browser is it?) may have on .deb.. it should prompt you then
[07:35] <Shuriken-> dusty: did you check my PMs before leaving ?
[07:35] <chavo> cius, I haven't been able to figure this one out either
[07:35] <erov> to sabve or open with
[07:35] <cius> I'm using konqueror
[07:35] <erov> ah.. I use mozilla firefox.. but let me fire of konq and see.
[07:35] <erov> fire of/fire up
[07:36] <cius> okay, I removed the entries for auto handling .deb files
[07:36] <cius> and it still opens with kate
[07:37] <cius> could it be a wider system setting maybe?
[07:37] <gibarian> Hi, got a problem with right-clicks on my hoary system...anyone?
[07:38] <ports> gibarian you really shouldnt be using Hoary
[07:38] <ports> gibarian they're up to 6.06 from the 4.1something youre using
[07:38] <erov> cius.. dunno It works fine here.. :|
[07:39] <cius> erov, that's not what I want to hear  :-)
[07:39] <erov> Configure Konq -> File Assoc. -> *.DEB/deb -> Ark
[07:39] <erov> I know.. I'm trying to think of something..
[07:39] <gibarian> oh, actually I'm using 5.10
[07:39] <gibarian> sorry...what's the codename for that one again?
[07:39] <cius> I appreciate your help btw
[07:39] <erov> breezy
[07:39] <gibarian> but 6.06 has just come out, so...
[07:39] <erov> np
[07:40] <gibarian> right, I'm using breezy
[07:40] <gibarian> sorry
[07:40] <gibarian> so...anyone know why my Desktop would freeze up when right-clicking a file?
[07:40] <erov> what does Left Click actions read?
[07:40] <gibarian> and it's really just the Desktop...icons disappear, but kicker still working, and Superkaramba themes as well...
[07:40] <erov> in the File Assoc. properties window
[07:41] <erov> of deb's
[07:41] <cius> int he general file assoc. window is says "show file in separate viewer"
[07:41] <erov> un select that
[07:42] <erov> select Use settings / Ask to save only
[07:42] <erov> that's how this one reads..
[07:42] <_jpierre> Hi.. Is there a way to install KDE on Ubunto Gnome. I tried using the Kubuntu CD and running the Classical sudo apt-get install kubuntu desktop and it didn't work
[07:43] <azathoth> how comes some apps get the full kde-style treatment, where the global theme (plastik) is applied perfectly and sexily, and some things (like firefox and xchat) still have the clunky ugly gtk look?
[07:43] <erov> because they use GTK
[07:44] <erov> :)
[07:44] <azathoth> and there's no way to get them to use anything else?
[07:44] <ports> hey azathoth
[07:44] <azathoth> hey ports
[07:44] <ports> not until newer versions of the apps become more supportive
[07:44] <azathoth> because in gnome, xchat and firefox both look a whole lot nicer
[07:45] <ports> azathoth im trying to decide between Ubuntu and Kubuntu..
[07:45] <cius> erov, under applications -> x-deb (where I looked earlier to see how it handled deb files) the left click action is "use settings for app group" and "ask whether to sace to disk instead"
[07:45] <azathoth> ports: amarok crashes in gnome for me, so the choice was easy
[07:45] <azathoth> and i prefer kde really...
[07:45] <ports> azathoth why not use something like Xamp?
[07:45] <erov> no as the developers wrote them that way.. you might try.. System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK styles and fonts
[07:45] <erov> i dont know how much that would help
[07:46] <azathoth> the applications available for it are just so much better, ktorrent, kaggregator, amaroK
[07:46] <erov> i agree azathoth
[07:46] <azathoth> Xamp?
[07:46] <azathoth> and thanks erov, i'll try that
[07:46] <ports> azathoth when i started using things like redhat and bsd i always used KDE because it was "more user friendly".. so i opted on Kubuntu when i installed Breezy
[07:46] <ports> azathoth ancient mp3 player.. great app though.. runs a like lot Winamp 2.xx
[07:46] <azathoth> god no
[07:46] <erov> mozilla looks as good if not better than it did in windows xp (as i remember it.. it was a while back)
[07:46] <azathoth> amarok is too sexy
[07:47] <azathoth> amarok is the best audio app on any system
[07:47] <erov> on my system.. but it took some tweaks if i remember right
[07:47] <ports> azathoth http://www.troll.no/
[07:47] <azathoth> and sod gnome, kde is faster and works better
[07:47] <gibarian> Hi..me again...I realized that the right-click issue appeared the first time after updating xorg files yesterday via apt-get...could that be it?
[07:47] <ryanakca> At localhost:631, I selected E210 gdi driver instead of E210 driver, and I obtained no errors. I now get this dialog: http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/screenshot2.png       what do I enter?
[07:48] <ports> azathoth ah well.. im waiting to get my laptop back so i can upgrade
[07:48] <jpatrick> azathoth: it is the only audio app on mine
[07:48] <ports> gibarian very likely
[07:48] <azathoth> jpatrick: yeah, it's too good for anything else
[07:48] <azathoth> it's one of the big perks of going 100% linux
[07:48] <ports> azathoth 100% linux... never!
[07:49] <azathoth> ports: i have no need to go back to windows
[07:49] <erov> me either..
[07:49] <azathoth> i've just gotta get around to swallowing the bullet and changing my ntfs drives to ext3
[07:49] <ports> azathoth in the office environments i work in.. unless if the whole office goes to linux.. we cant give up MS Office
[07:49] <azathoth> ports: openoffice, crossover office?
[07:50] <erov> what kinda documents do yall read/produce?
[07:50] <ports> azathoth open office is really no where near MS office if you're a hardcore user.
[07:50] <azathoth> i am a script-writer and my windows script-writing app has a linux version...
[07:50] <erov> that's what i am trying to figure out.. what's hardcore?
[07:50] <azathoth> that and tomboy (my brain)...
[07:50] <ports> lol
[07:50] <ports> erov we use a lot of formatting, images, changes tracking, form macros.
[07:51] <azathoth> well ports, changing over to a 100% linux office is a great idea, but isn't for everyone
[07:51] <erov> ok..
[07:51] <azathoth> it works for me and my job, because i work from home
[07:51] <erov> so lets get those prioritized  ;)
[07:52] <erov> what's koffice about? anyone try it yet?
[07:52] <ports> erov in one area dealing with constitutions..  itd mean that every organization thats submitted one would have to redo their constitution in Open Office and make sure formatting is right... if tabs/ article numbers dont come out.. the organization gets rejected.
[07:52] <erov> gotcha
[07:52] <ports> erov i installed koffice on Breezy.. havent really used it though
[07:53] <ports> erov that'll all be a bit nicer in the next year once those go into mysql databases.. then formatting wont be an issue.
[07:53] <azathoth> dapper is so much better than breezy it's not funny...
[07:53] <Shaezsche> why doesnt kubuntu recognize the make command?
[07:53] <ports> azathoth i forgot my laptop at home :(
[07:53] <ports> Shaezsche are you running 'make world' ?
[07:53] <azathoth> heh
[07:53] <erov> only complaint I have is inability to CORRECTLY convert xvid/mpeg4 videos --> compatible mpeg2 dvd video without length reporting errors and other weird things (i've read a ton of FAQs and even used the KDVDauthor/kmpeg2 scripts.. no dice)
[07:53] <Shaezsche> make world? what?
[07:53] <gibarian> ports: any idea on how to resolve this? rollback last night's update?
[07:54] <azathoth> i keep getting an error when i run an app atm, so i have to figure out what's causing a 'device error 166' to come up
[07:54] <ports> gibarian youd have to ask someone else how to repair that.. i dont know
[07:54] <ports> Shaezsche why are you running make
[07:54] <erov> Shaezche: did you install make or any related compilers from the repositories ?
[07:54] <Shaezsche> to install a makefile that has acpi info fo rmy laptop
[07:54] <Shaezsche> apt-get install build-essential? is that what i need?
[07:55] <Shaezsche> erov its the default installation
[07:55] <ports> i wish i had some golf clubs
[07:55] <erov> well youll need to install make.. probably gcc as well if you are compiling (i think installing gcc does it automatically)
[07:56] <Shaezsche> yea but does that come with kubuntu?
[07:56] <Shaezsche> i think my adept packet manager said i had gcc
[07:56] <erov> yes.. run Adept.. search for gcc
[07:56] <iNiku> Shaezsche: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:56] <ports> Shaezsche no.. you need to use adept
[07:56] <iNiku> Shaezsche: I think that should sort you out
[07:56] <Shaezsche> thanks inuku
[07:56] <_JP> i have a fresh installation of dapper. is there a way to change boot time resolution? my monitor keeps saying "out of range" until X starts
[07:56] <Shaezsche> iniku why on earth isnt that installed by default?
[07:56] <erov> build-essential, ok
[07:56] <azathoth> for some reason all apps are running in the kde default style now, even tho i don't know why :)
[07:56] <ports> _JP what resolution does your monitor run on?
[07:56] <azathoth> either way it's fixed, so thanks erov
[07:57] <iNiku> Shaezsche: why would it be?
[07:57] <erov> np, you talking about the gtk apps right?
[07:57] <iNiku> Shaezsche: most basic users don't need to compile sources
[07:57] <ports> Shaezsche most people dont need a compiler
[07:57] <_JP> ports: 1280x1024
[07:57] <azathoth> erov: yeah... i set them to run a different theme, then set them back as default "use kde styles" and they are now showing in my custum theme...
[07:57] <cius> yea, screw konqueror, firefox all the way
[07:57] <azathoth> could be a bug, but it's not a serious one...
[07:58] <ports> _JP and on boot it says out of range... thats weird.. because on boot, mine runs at 640x480 until x starts
[07:58] <cius> erov, solved my problem, or rather firefox did :-)
[07:58] <slow-motion> re
[07:58] <cius> thanks for the help
[07:58] <ports> azathoth what theme are you using
[07:58] <iNiku> Shaezsche: what acpi stuff are you compiling?
[07:58] <erov> cius: np..
[07:59] <azathoth> ports: plastik
[07:59] <_JP> ports: yeah, i had the same "out of range" problem during the installation too. i changed the resolution by pressing f4 in the boot menu..
[07:59] <LinuxNewbie2> Anyone know a guide on how to install Kubuntu 6.06 ?
[07:59] <ports> azathoth hrm i didnt care for that one too much...
[07:59] <ports> azathoth i think its Kde-look.org - awesome themes
[08:00] <azathoth> i like it, it's plain, it's simple and it's nicely done
[08:00] <ports> is that the one that has purple in it?
[08:00] <azathoth> i'll take a walk aroud there later, thanks ports
[08:00] <Shaezsche> iniku its for a w5a asus laptop. called acpi4asus at sourceforge
[08:00] <_JP> until the installer crashed and i decided to try text mode installation, which worked flawlessly...
[08:00] <ports> azathoth is that the one that has purple in it?
[08:00] <MidMark> people kscd works for you in dapper? No sound for me
[08:00] <BoD[] > Hello !
[08:00] <iNiku> Shaezsche: okay. is it a kernel module or what?
[08:01] <Shaezsche> yes i thinki
[08:01] <Shaezsche> i cannot get it installed in ubuntu either
[08:01] <BoD[] > Hey I just installed Kubuntu, I go to add/remove Programs, and try to install Firefox... But it's grayed out.. why?
[08:01] <iNiku> Shaezsche: then you'll need the linux-headers package for your kernel version, too
[08:01] <Shaezsche> i believe i have that in my ubuntu, but i dont know about kubuntu
[08:01] <Shaezsche> where can i find that
[08:02] <iNiku> Shaezsche: um, the sourceforge site says it's included in the linux kernel since a long time ago
[08:02] <iNiku> Shaezsche: so why are you installing it manually?
[08:02] <Shaezsche> in ubuntu i have a linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386
[08:02] <iNiku> Shaezsche: uname -r to see your current kernel version
[08:02] <Shaezsche> iniku that latest version isnt
[08:02] <Shaezsche> i not in linux atm iniku
[08:02] <iNiku> Shaezsche: then apt-get install linux-headers-<version>
[08:02] <troy> how well does printing work under dapper?
[08:03] <iNiku> Shaezsche: or all in one, apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:03] <Shaezsche> does that require a net connection?
[08:03] <Shaezsche> i dont have one in linux, i am stuck on dial up
[08:03] <iNiku> Shaezsche: it's a package like any other
[08:03] <erov> also use 686 kernels (if you are running a pentium above)
[08:04] <Shaezsche> i am running a pentium M
[08:04] <iNiku> you'll need a net connection for downloading make, gcc etc. to
[08:04] <iNiku> too
[08:04] <Shaezsche> it automatically installed 386
[08:04] <erov> yes it does for compatibility purposes on install
[08:04] <erov> but.. 686 is optimized for the newer processors (wont run on anything less though)
[08:04] <Shaezsche> too complicated. im going back to windows xp
[08:04] <iNiku> erov: that's a little strange, IMO it should autodetect the cpu type
[08:04] <Shaezsche> j/k
[08:04] <erov> ahaha
[08:05] <iNiku> Shaezsche: like windows is simple :P
[08:05] <lea> hi
[08:05] <Shaezsche> what do you think of windows vista?
[08:05] <Shaezsche> yea well windows recognizes all my hardware
[08:05] <Shaezsche> im on a laptop
[08:05] <erov> i dont think anything.. i havent tried it.. read a few articles and saw some screenshots
[08:05] <iNiku> Shaezsche: agreed, getting esoteric hardware working in linux can be a bitch
[08:05] <iNiku> but usually it's a one-time job
[08:06] <BoD[] > any idea why firefox is grayed out in the "adept installer" ?
[08:06] <Shaezsche> they say windows xp will boot in less than 5 seconds...
[08:06] <Shaezsche> i mean windows vista
[08:07] <BoD[] > nobody?
[08:07] <troy> does anyone know if 3.5.3 plays nicely with cups 1.2x?
[08:07] <iNiku> I rarely boot my systems
[08:07] <iNiku> just sleep the laptop
[08:08] <erov> yeah saving state sleep is always good
[08:08] <erov> just pop it right back up where you left off
[08:08] <mikedep333> hey guys, with my primary user account (but not a test one) KDE is awefully messed up, the majority of icons used by kde are missing. any suggestions on config files to reset?
[08:08] <iNiku> erov: yep, I hate having to close everything
[08:08] <iNiku> mikedep333: it should all be in .kde
[08:09] <mikedep333> iNiKu: yeah
[08:09] <iNiku> mikedep333: I'd try removing the whole thing. mv .kde .kde-old
[08:09] <mikedep333> you think I should just reset everything there?
[08:09] <iNiku> it should get recreated with the defaults then
[08:09] <mikedep333> ok, thanks
[08:09] <erov> yes it should reset with defaults.. but keep your directory backed up for specific info you may want to retrieve
[08:09] <mikedep333> erov: yeah, good point
[08:11] <erov> had to do that with amaroK a few times.. i'd have incoming music trying to be added into the library and it'd be f'd up for good.. had to just remove the collection.db file in some .kde subdirectory
[08:11] <mikedep333> oh good, I just deleted kde* under .kde/share/config and it worked, I didn'
[08:11] <mikedep333> *didn't have to reset everything like kopete
[08:11] <erov> cool
[08:11] <erov> good deal
[08:11] <mikedep333> thx
[08:11] <azathoth> is there a systray new-mail notifier for kubuntu?
[08:12] <_thumper_> smbfs or cifs?  docs say smbfs deprecated
[08:12] <chavo> azathoth, you can make kmail sit in the tray
[08:13] <azathoth> i use thunderbird
[08:13] <azathoth> i'd rather not have big bulky apps open all the time either, when i can just have a small app in the tray
[08:13] <osh_> Hmm, my upgrade wasn't smooth. :-(
[08:13] <LinuxNewbie2> Linux just reminded me of Windows. Not working and then works for no reason. lol
[08:14] <osh_> Most things broke. Now I'm sort of back up to normal again. Although workrave is gone, katapult doesn't work anymore and god knows what else that is broken that I don't know about.
[08:14] <[Nirvana] > hey all, I have an error with gconftool, the command and error msg received can be found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1087674&postcount=5
[08:14] <osh_> Looks like I'll have to do a complete reinstall to get a good dapper going.
[08:15] <BoD[] > any idea why firefox is grayed out in the adept installer? what does it mean when an item is grayed out?
[08:15] <[Nirvana] > oh shoot, I better ask in #ubuntu ... gconftool sounds gnome-ey
[08:15] <ubuntu> Hello everybody, I'm newbie on kubuntu, I've just installed it and i'm looking for some informations about how to start
[08:16] <jdsnape> well, what do you want to do?
[08:16] <azathoth> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ are very good for beginners
[08:16] <ubuntu> I jdsnape, thanks for answering me
[08:17] <hangfire> ubuntu- its easy, just go into your k-menu and adjust the setting the way you like, its as easy or easier than windows
[08:17] <erov> BoD[] : check /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:17] <ubuntu> It's the first time I use a Linux OS
[08:17] <mikedep333> I really have to give you kubuntu devs credit, with the possible exception of adept package management, the kubuntu config utilities seem to be much better than the ubuntu ones.
[08:17] <ubuntu> I'd like to configure my dual screen
[08:17] <hangfire> since your name is "ubuntu" Im guessing your still running it as a live cd
[08:17] <ubuntu> Yes, i'm running it as a live CD
[08:17] <ubuntu> The last version of kubuntu
[08:17] <BoD[] > erov: everything is commented
[08:18] <mikedep333> Like with how you have the menu to setup dual monitors with nvidia, gnome doesn't do that.
[08:18] <erov> everything???
[08:18] <erov> then that is your problem
[08:18] <hangfire> well you should install it to hd first
[08:18] <erov> you need somewhere to get the packages from..
[08:18] <mikedep333> *the system config stuff that is
[08:18] <BoD[] > erov: yes
[08:18] <erov> whether it be a cd source or net source
[08:18] <ubuntu> Is there a difference from running it from the CD, or having it installed on the Hard drive ?
[08:19] <erov> so uncomment some repositories..
[08:19] <ubuntu> excepting the running time I mean
[08:19] <hangfire> yes, you cant save stuff when its just live
[08:19] <BoD[] > erov: ah ok... Yeah I think the installer tried to do something and it couldn't ... normal since the network was not configured yet
[08:19] <BoD[] > erov: ok i'll try
[08:19] <erov> you want to see my sources.list (it may not be the best but everything works..)
[08:19] <iNiku> hmm, gaim 2 seems pretty nice
[08:20] <mikedep333> ubuntu: also, keep in mind that any OS is MUCH faster running from the HD than from a CD/DVD
[08:20] <BoD[] > erov: sure!
[08:20] <ubuntu> mikedep : sure I kknow It
[08:20] <ubuntu> But the problem is that I'd like to try my hardware before installing it on Hard drive
[08:21] <erov> http://erov.ath.cx/sources.list
[08:21] <BoD[] > erov: thanks very much
[08:21] <erov> np
[08:21] <mikedep333> ubuntu: ok, is there any hardware you're having trouble with?
[08:22] <BlackHand> wtf its a complot a conspiracy!
[08:22] <ShastaMaroon> Does windows have an equivalent of /etc/hosts ?
[08:22] <BlackHand> ubuntu dapper finally released
[08:23] <BlackHand> and ONE DAY BEFORE, the great lobbies of power force to the kde foundation to release kde 3.5.3
[08:23] <erov> ShastaMaroon: yes in the C:\windows dir.. it uses to be like lmhosts or something i cant remember anymore but there are 2 or 3 files in the dir
[08:23] <ubuntu> The two things i'm in doubt are my dual screen, and my RAID device !
[08:23] <ShastaMaroon> erov cool, thanks.
[08:23] <mikedep333> shastamaroon: yes, C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
[08:24] <mikedep333> I'm pretty sure about that
[08:24] <erov> well thats a new one on me mike.. but i havent used it in so long, you're probably right.. im remembering win9x days
[08:24] <mikedep333> ubuntu: you're doing dual monitors? on what kind of graphics card?
[08:24] <ubuntu> Nvidia
[08:24] <mikedep333> erov: in win9x, it may be in another folder
[08:24] <ubuntu> Geforce 6600 Gt
[08:24] <mikedep333> like system instead of system32
[08:24] <mikedep333> ubuntu: you're in luck
[08:24] <ubuntu> tell me why :d
[08:24] <mikedep333> I just setup my dual monitors on my nvidia 6800
[08:25] <hangfire> ubuntu-Im not sure, but I think you have to install your graphics drivers after the os is installed, you might want to use "easyubuntu" to install the official graphic drivers
[08:25] <ShastaMaroon> mikedep333 good memory
[08:25] <mikedep333> ubuntu: basically you install the package nvidia-glx
[08:25] <mikedep333> thx
[08:25] <mikedep333> that is in the multiverse repository
[08:25] <BoD[] > erov: some items are still grayed! I don't understand why
[08:25] <mikedep333> !tell ubuntu about components
[08:26] <mikedep333> and then in kde, you go to system settings, display
[08:26] <mikedep333> and you'll see an option for dual monitors
[08:26] <ubuntu> I see it
[08:26] <mikedep333> you enter your password to do it of course
[08:26] <mikedep333> I don't believe you can test this out from the livecd
[08:26] <ubuntu> but for my second screen it only allow 800x600 resolution
[08:26] <ubuntu> that's why I think i have to install last Nvidia drivers for Linux
[08:26] <mikedep333> ubuntu: yeah
[08:26] <mikedep333> the package nvidia-glx is the latest official nvidia driver
[08:27] <ubuntu> where can I find It ?
[08:27] <mikedep333> I don't think you can install it with the liveCD though
[08:27] <erov> have you "fetched lists"
[08:27] <ubuntu> oh damn !
[08:27] <serenity> hi
[08:27] <erov> or whatever.. bod[] 
[08:27] <mikedep333> ubuntu: I had ubotu tell you about the components
[08:27] <mikedep333> it is in multiverse
[08:27] <ShastaMaroon> mikedep333 /etc/hosts ...on windows...interesting
[08:27] <mikedep333> because it has a proprietary license
[08:27] <hangfire> how do I get the NickServ password to automatically log in? I think I have to set that in Identitys
[08:27] <BoD[] > erov: where is that option ? :)
[08:27] <serenity> i have a ntfs partition and want to format it with ext3, but how?
[08:27] <mikedep333> but once you have it installed
[08:27] <mikedep333> from the display menu, you can chose the driver
[08:28] <mikedep333> you want to chose "nvidia" instead of "nv"
[08:28] <mikedep333> nv is the free but very incomplete driver included with the ubuntu CD
[08:28] <mikedep333> *kubuntu too
[08:28] <erov> Fetch Updates button
[08:28] <mikedep333> and nvidia is the official one from nvidia
[08:28] <erov> in Adept
[08:28] <hangfire> and incomplete means no 3D if you can believe it
[08:28] <erov> it'll log into the sites and get a list.. maybe that will clear it
[08:28] <BoD[] > erov: I don't see such a button
[08:28] <mikedep333> I believe it also means no dual monitors, or not a very good implementation of them
[08:28] <erov> oh.. erm what exactly are you running
[08:29] <erov> and from what point in the start menu are you running it
[08:29] <BoD[] > erov: Adept Installer 2.0 Destroyer (Using KDE 3.5.2)
[08:29] <BoD[] > erov: From Add/Remove programs
[08:29] <erov> ok dont use that..
[08:29] <erov> do this:
[08:30] <erov> Start -> System -> Adept
[08:30] <BoD[] > ahhhhh :)
[08:30] <erov> run it from that point.. the other one is different for some reason
[08:30] <BoD[] > erov: ok thank you very much
[08:30] <erov> then look down the list for firefox
[08:30] <erov> or type in a keyword at type to filter results
[08:30] <BoD[] > ok
[08:31] <erov> the add/remove programs is limited to K* programs and is run a different way from the "regular" adept manager
[08:31] <ubuntu> mikedep333 : please tell me again where I can Find the Nvidia display driver
[08:31] <erov> firefox is a gtk program.. so they wont include it in the firstr
[08:31] <BoD[] > erov: i see
[08:31] <erov> in a push to use Konqueror i suppose
[08:31] <BoD[] > hehe :)
[08:32] <hangfire> can anyone tell me what I enter into the Identitys settings so my NickServ password will automatically log in?
[08:32] <hangfire> basically I want to know what I enter under "service"
[08:32] <mikedep333> ubuntu: using the package manager
[08:32] <mikedep333> (adept under kde)
[08:32] <erov> hangfire you using what? Kopete?
[08:33] <mikedep333> and with the component "multiverse" setup
[08:33] <hangfire> no konversation
[08:33] <mikedep333> it is nvidia-glx
[08:33] <erov> ahh erm .. havent used that one. .but kopete just has a simple ON CONNECT input for commands to be performed upon connect
[08:34] <hangfire> ok, thanks for that erov, Ill check out kopete
[08:34] <erov> its a messenger.. program.. but irc can easily be added.. and is quite fine (to me) for ircing
[08:34] <chavo> hangfire, open up the server list -> f2
[08:34] <ubuntu> Where Is the package manager ?
[08:34] <chavo> then edit the server
[08:34] <ubuntu> Ok i found it
[08:34] <erov> yeah maybe chavo knows
[08:35] <mikedep333> hmm, you'll have to excuse me
[08:35] <mikedep333> I'm used to using the gnome tools to manage packages (synaptic)
[08:36] <mikedep333> but somebody else here should be able to help you install nvidia-glx from multiverse using adept
[08:36] <ubuntu> I'm just installing the content of the nvidia-glx pachakage
[08:36] <ubuntu> package
[08:36] <mikedep333> ok, great
[08:37] <hangfire> ok thanks chavo, checking out server list now
[08:37] <ubuntu> Ok, Adedt ( the Installing Program ) tels me that's the packet is installed
[08:37] <ubuntu> Now I have to change the display driver from nm to nvidia is it right ?
[08:37] <mikedep333> ok, now you can do everything from display settings
[08:37] <mikedep333> yeah
[08:37] <gan|y|med> hallo
[08:37] <hangfire> chavo, where it says "commands" what do I enter there?
[08:37] <chavo> when you hit edit on the server address, there's a box to put in your password
[08:38] <hangfire> that box is "commands"?
[08:38] <erov> isnt that for the server password, chavo or is it one and the same with NickServ here?
[08:39] <chavo> yeah it's for nickserv
[08:39] <erov> k
[08:40] <hangfire> do I just enter my password where it says commands or type NickServ IDENTITY <password>?
[08:40] <ubuntu> Ok, How do I restart the X server ?
[08:40] <chavo> hangfire, click on the server name in the server box, and then click edit
[08:40] <hangfire> ok, thx
[08:41] <chavo> then you can put in a password there
[08:41] <chavo> konversation won't let me type with that window open
[08:41] <mikedep333> ubuntu: when you log out
[08:41] <mikedep333> there should be an option in the menu
[08:42] <mikedep333> if you can't find it, just hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:42] <hangfire> dang I still get the password incorrect :(
[08:43] <chavo> well you gotta put in the right password
[08:44] <hangfire> ok, I got it, I dont enter in the "command" box, its in the little server menu down below
[08:44] <shulman> how do I add synaptic to a new install of dapper drake? I can't seem to find a respository with it
[08:44] <kbrooks> shulman: its added.
[08:44] <shulman> kbrooks: how do I get to it?
[08:44] <kbrooks> wait
[08:45] <kbrooks> sorry
[08:45] <kbrooks> um, don't use synaptic. use adept.
[08:45] <shulman> kbrooks: when I use adept, it doesn't seem tobe updating following changes to the sources.list file
[08:46] <ganymed_> what package has to be installed to acquire mpr support?
[08:46] <kbrooks> shulman: it isn't magic. you need to tell it to update from the changes you made
[08:46] <osled> hi!!!!!!!!
[08:46] <ganymed_> what package has to be installed to acquire mp3 <-- support?
[08:47] <shulman> kbrooks: does that need to be done from the command line or is there a way to do it in apept?
[08:47] <erov> Fetch updates will update the rep. list
[08:47] <mikedep333> !restrictedformats
[08:47] <ubotu> from memory, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:47] <mikedep333> ganymed: there
[08:47] <erov> menu->system->adept
[08:47] <ganymed_> thanks
[08:47] <ganymed_> ciao
[08:48] <erov> !freeformats
[08:48] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[08:48] <shulman> sorry -- I was using the adept installer... I'm in the full version now. thx!
[08:54] <LinuxNewbie2> Hey
[08:54] <LinuxNewbie2> I am back and its isntalled.
[08:55] <nads> Hey guys.... I am having trouble installing zenity... it says it has some dependencies and doing apt-get -f install doesn't update anything.... can anyone pleaes help?
[08:55] <agalavis> hi
[08:56] <joe__> Hello.  How can I put the trashcan on the desktop instead of the taskbar in dapper?  There is no Desktop/trash.desktop file to edit, so I am lost.
[08:56] <mikedep333> nads: did you update your package list?
[08:56] <nads> mike: yeah ... i put the same list that they posted on the forums.....
[08:56] <agalavis> i'm also havin problems installing some packages, have anyone installed libxine-extracodecs?
[08:57] <sorush20> hi guys I'm unable to get internet access in the new kernel in dapper with my original ndiswrapper configuration what should I do?
[08:57] <GNAM> where can I set screensaver in kubuntu?
[08:57] <agalavis> i enabled all repositories and updated the packages list
[08:58] <agalavis> GNAM: right click over the desktop
[08:58] <nads> agalavis: were you able to install Automatix?
[08:58] <joe__> GNAM: rightclick anywhere on the desktop, choose configure desktop and choose screensavers.
[08:58] <agalavis> nop nads i have not tried
[08:58] <agalavis> i'm doing all by hand
[08:58] <LinuxNewbie2> How can I turn off the Case Sensitivety in Konsole ?
[08:58] <nads> has anyone been able to install Automatix?
[08:59] <GNAM> wow
[08:59] <agalavis> i think there are missing packages in the repositories
[08:59] <joe__> LinuxNewbie2: I don't think you can.
[08:59] <LinuxNewbie2> nads: I intent to get it now :D
[08:59] <agalavis> is this true?
[08:59] <chavo> LinuxNewbie2, you can't case sensitivity is in the filesystem
[08:59] <nads> thanks newbie.... let me know how that goes
[09:02] <Blake7984> got ubuntu installed and booting well...got windows on hd0,0...it was empty and i just re-ghosted my windows image (pre-ubuntu) on to that partition...in grub i try the normal commands to boot windows, but it doesnt boot...any suggestions to try?
[09:03] <Blake7984> commands used to boot were:   rootnoverify (hd0,0)    makeactive   chainloader +1    boot
[09:09] <shulman> When I play videos downloaded from the internet, I get a bit of "static" in the video... weird colored single pixel wide lines are flickering around the screen. any idea what would cause that?
[09:10] <guptan> My belkin usb wifi adapter is working fine with kubuntu but fails to work in ubuntu (even freezes the system) Please help me to make it work with Ubuntu
[09:13] <LinuxNewbie2> How can I make the ICONS on the desktop and Fodler views but smaller?
[09:15] <erov> menu->system settings->appearance or icons i believe, linuxnewbie2
[09:17] <stodge> So is printing in Kubuntu broken??
[09:18] <stodge> I can't set up a printer
[09:21] <BlueEagl1> Is it just me or is the kubuntu dapper installer bugged when attempting to partition? I am trying to install using norwegian locale
[09:23] <v3ctor> BlueEagle: i agree
[09:23] <BlueEagle> The installer crashes with the error message as found on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/756183
[09:24] <BlueEagle> that is after showing "please allow atleast 2gb for root and 256 mb for swap"
[09:24] <BlueEagle> v3ctor: Do you know of a workaround?
[09:25] <stodge> Why is adept updater trying to install the GNOME application installer on Kubuntu? I don't have GNOME installed
[09:25] <BlueEagle> v3ctor: ie. does the english (default) options work?
[09:26] <_sara> hey
[09:26] <gan|y|med> hallo. i want to compile lame. configure works, but when i do "make" it complains that no targets were defined and that no make control file could be found. any ideas?
[09:27] <BlueEagle> gan|y|med: are you in the correct directory? Have you got sufficient permissions? Did you install build_essentials?
[09:29] <gan|y|med> first two yes. what's the last?
[09:31] <tibal> hi
[09:31] <tibal> does someone have problems with xine engine and avi file ?
[09:31] <stodge> Anyone able to add a Samba printer to kubuntu dapper?
[09:32] <tibal> "couldn't find demux for file"
[09:33] <gan|y|med> BlueEagle: what is build_essentials
[09:34] <tibal> gan|y|med: a set of essential tools to build softwares like gcc and some libraries
[09:35] <tibal> gan|y|med: the base things to compile
[09:35] <gan|y|med> tibal: but the package doesn't exist. i have installed gcc (4.0 and 3.3), make, autoconf, automake lib6..sth.
[09:36] <tibal> gan|y|med: build-essentials, not build_essentials :)
[09:36] <gan|y|med> thx
[09:36] <troy> does anyone know if 3.5.3 plays nicely with cups 1.2x?
[09:36] <tibal> gan|y|med: and without "s".. build-essential - informational list of build-essential packages
[09:37] <gan|y|med> now we got it. i typed it four times :)
[09:38] <gan|y|med> yoooohooooooooooooooo
[09:38] <XavierGr> Does kubuntu offers save settings per folder?
[09:39] <IGD> i changed my resolution in kubuntu to 1400X900 but now it appears that i have multiple desktops in that resolution. anyone have this problem before?
[09:40] <gan|y|med> any idea why libxine-extracodecs is not in universe?
[09:41] <user-land> hello, has mozilla been updated to protect from the newly published vulnerabilities ?
[09:41] <noteventime> user-land: 1.5.3?
[09:42] <user-land> Cert writes: 'severe impact of these vulnerabilities could allow a remote attacker to execute arbitrary code with the privileges of the user running the affected application. Upgrade to Mozilla Firefox 1.5.0.4, Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5.0.4, or SeaMonkey 1.0.2.
[09:42] <noteventime> hmm
[09:43] <user-land> Novell/Suse is sleeping too ...
[09:43] <noteventime> user-land: Not in apt yet
[09:43] <noteventime> When was it released?
[09:43] <erov> 2 days ago
[09:43] <erov> i believe
[09:43] <gan|y|med> any idea why libxine-extracodecs is not in universe?
[09:43] <user-land> i wonder why they leaveusunprotected ...
[09:43] <robin___> this room is getting big lol
[09:44] <noteventime> gan|y|med, Licensing problems
[09:44] <user-land> i don't know.
[09:44] <noteventime> I think
[09:44] <paolo_> ciao a tutti
[09:44] <paolo_> io sono italiano
[09:44] <noteventime> !it
[09:44] <erov> because it's in multiverse, gany
[09:44] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:44] <gan|y|med> what is better: kuser or the kcontrol panel for user administration?
[09:44] <erov> the distributors could face legal problems if it was done a certain way
[09:45] <cesar> Hola
[09:46] <cesar> dnde estoy
[09:46] <noteventime> !es
[09:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:47] <user-land> Release Date: June 1, 2006
[09:47] <user-land> http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases/1.5.0.4.html
[09:47] <noteventime> :/
[09:47] <gan|y|med> thx and ciao
[09:47] <noteventime> It took nearly a week for them to release 1.5.3 too :/
[09:48] <noteventime> If I'm not wrong
[09:48] <erov> yeah i just downloaded it myself
[09:48] <erov> heh..
[09:48] <tzar> is kde the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[09:48] <Bazzi> noteventime: chill ;)
[09:48] <erov> yes tzar.. along with the K support apps and adept package manager i believe..
[09:49] <noteventime> tzar, yes, but all the apps are changed to KDE apps
[09:49] <tzar> ill try that then, i installed ubuntu.. and its not working too well on my lappy :S
[09:49] <noteventime> so instead of totem you have kaffeine
[09:49] <noteventime> and so on
[09:49] <noteventime> tzar, Why?
[09:50] <user-land> what is not working, tzar ?
[09:50] <tzar> well first of all my wireless... it sees my and other surrounding  routers but wont connect
[09:50] <LinuxNewbie2> How can I end a procces ?
[09:50] <LinuxNewbie2> Like Task Manager in Windows XP
[09:51] <user-land> ctrl-esc
[09:51] <LinuxNewbie2> Thanks
[09:51] <user-land> tzar, the chance that it will work on kubuntu is there but not too high.
[09:52] <erov> what card tzar
[09:52] <tzar> i dont know... it acting wierd overall
[09:52] <erov> i had the same problem actually it had to do with firmware for the card..
[09:52] <tzar> erov its built in,  intel B/G 2200
[09:53] <tzar> i had xandros with kde, and im used to kde a bit more
[09:53] <tzar> anyone know a good network manager perhaps? maybe that will help
[09:54] <jw> I know this is a stupid question, but is there any way to pause the upgrade to dapper?
[09:54] <erov> tzar: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78983.html better yet.. http://www.google.com/search?hs=Fib&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=intel+bg+2000+ubuntu&btnG=Search
[09:54] <jw> it still shows 5 hours remaining and it's already 10pm
[09:54] <erov> the first in the forum.. has the same problem as you
[09:55] <erov> i dont think so jw :|
[09:55] <erov> it  may not redownload the already downloaded packages next time
[09:56] <erov> if it checks out alright
[09:56] <jw> but can i just close it?
[09:56] <erov> not sure on that though
[09:56] <jw> it didn't install anything yet, just downloaded
[09:56] <erov> yeah go ahead it shouldnt "redownload" the ones already gotten.. effectively "pausing" it
[09:56] <erov> not 100% on that though
[09:56] <jw> ok
[09:57] <user-land> jw, is your computer too loud to leave it running ?
[09:57] <jw> its in my bedroom, so yeah it's a bit annoying
[09:58] <jw> and tomorrow I have to go somewhere, so i can leave it on meanwhile
[09:58] <user-land> have a good night then :-)
[09:58] <jw> but in 1 hour 15 min the remaning time only decreased with 30 min...
[09:59] <jw> maybe I'll download the cd via torrent, that may be easier if i want to pause it again
[10:00] <paolo_> buogiorno a tutti
[10:01] <paolo_> #ubuntu-it
[10:02] <cius> dies anyone have a link to information about theming kde 3.5?
[10:03] <erov> like making your own theme?
[10:03] <XVampireX> kopete 0.12  is out, when do I expect to see it in the repos?
[10:03] <tzar> how come so litle people in #Kubuntu compared to the ubuntu room?
[10:03] <cius> erov, yea
[10:04] <cius> google turned up very little
[10:06] <erov> i'd look at an existing theme structure..
[10:06] <erov> heh..
[10:06] <erov> try to learn from it.. but im SURE there is a resource SOMEWHERE..
[10:07] <cius> you wouldn't happen to know where window decorations are installed would you?
[10:08] <chavo> cius, kwin decorations are compiled and they go in /usr/lib/kde3
[10:09] <cius> chavo, ah, good to know
[10:09] <osh_> cius: how about #kde? they should know...
[10:09] <cius> osh, yea, I'll try that
[10:09] <chavo> cius, there is one called dekorator that let's you design your own with pixmaps
[10:13] <osh_> anyone got bluetooth running under kubuntu? I've tried the bluetooth-tools but I just can't seem to get it to talk to my phone. any hints?
[10:16] <r0xz> does anyone know if there a game like "trackmania original" for linux already?
[10:18] <r0xz> it's really a nice race game
[10:19] <XVampireX> No idea r0xz, check places like www.happypenguin.org www.linuxgames.com www.linux-gamers.net and others
[10:20] <XVampireX> www.linuxgamepublishing.com too
[10:21] <r0xz> XVampireX: already done that, but nothing close i am afraid. Thanks though
[10:21] <XVampireX> Okey
[10:22] <robin___> used easyubuntu and works great. java not working for firefox,  java and flash both working in konqueror, and quick way to fix
[10:24] <zero> has any one magaged to get WPA working with Centrino (ipw2200) on 6.06?
[10:28] <robin___> where can a get a how to install java in firefox
[10:30] <bimberi> !java
[10:30] <jpatrick> !java
[10:30] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:31] <neko> I have skim installed as part of the kubuntu default, but english is the only engine it's showing for it. do I install scim and its appropriate engines?
[10:32] <XVampireX> on kubuntu what package to install for checkers?
[10:36] <neko> checkers as in the game? aka Draughts?
[10:38] <koper_> First time ever user user of GNU/Linux & kubuntu, i hope(Know) you guys & girls will assist me in future
[10:38] <XVampireX> checkers as in the game, yeah
[10:38] <XVampireX> koper_: Welcome aboard
[10:38] <LinuxNewbie3> Firefox is working perfectly with my bookmarks and cookies :D
[10:38] <LinuxNewbie3> in Linux how can i check what Extensions i go in XP ?
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> XVampireX: Use xboard on freechess.org (thats the real game chess)
[10:39] <XVampireX> Is that chess? I don't know chess, I want checkers
[10:40] <XVampireX> The one with the regular soldiers and kings and the one you can eat and the winner is the one who eats the most
[10:40] <paulvolk> Hello
[10:42] <paulvolk> I was just installed Kubuntu Drapper and I was wondering where I could get a list of the repositories for the latest release.
[10:42] <XVampireX> tzar: Welcome aboard, too.
[10:42] <h3sp4wn> !easysource
[10:42] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:42] <tzar> :)
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> paulvolk: Have a look at that
[10:43] <paulvolk> ok thanks
[10:43] <paulvolk> and another question...
[10:43] <XVampireX> More people to linux/ubuntu/kubuntu, more power to the world
[10:43] <paulvolk> The latest release, is it the final release? not a beta?
[10:44] <obscurite> anyone familiar with xinerama? i have it set up with lappy screen + extenral LCD, but i'm not sure how I can switch back to just lappy screen when I travel. is there an easy way without editing xorg.conf every time?
[10:46] <eimajenthat> obscurite: I messed with this a bit a while back.  Don't remember the details, but...
[10:46] <tzar> hmm kubuntu too dont want to connect to my router :S
[10:47] <eimajenthat> obscurite: I believe you can set the xorg.conf to try dual screens, and then try single screens when it starts.  So you'd just have to restart X when you change monitor configuration.
[10:47] <eimajenthat> When it starts, if it detects both monitors, you get both.  If it only detects one, you only get one.
[10:47] <eimajenthat> Lemme see if I can find my xorg.conf where I ahd that working
[10:48] <obscurite> eimjenthat - I have an option in my Device sections called "DevicePresence" - could that be it? i'll give it a shot when i'm ready to sign off. thanks
[10:49] <XVampireX> obscurite: Try making 2 versions and making some script to change them
[10:49] <obscurite> XVampireX - that's a good idea, except i'd still have to restart X (which means saving and closing all programs. boooo!)
[10:50] <obscurite> I want to be as cool as a mac or windows users and be able to unplug my LCD and have the screen just work ;)
[10:50] <XVampireX> obscurite: write the same script to restart X for you and do all the job for you
[10:51] <XVampireX> And save sessions and whatever you want
[10:51] <XVampireX> That's linux >_<
[10:51] <tzar> XVampireX any idea why my wireless wont work on my laptop?  built in card, intel b/g 2200  - i even removed the password from my router  and it says  Connection failed... it sees my router though and the surroudning ones too
[10:52] <XVampireX> Yeah, you need to install some things for wireless to work
[10:52] <obscurite> XVampireX - hopefully linux will get super beefy video at some point, including all distros having a good xorg.conf config tool in the short term
[10:52] <Blaidd> Is there anyone around who wouldn't mind taking a minute to help me install kde .. there seem to be some package issues with breezy that I'm running into
[10:53] <XVampireX> obscurite: It should
[10:53] <tzar> XVampireX ... sorry im a newbie to the linux world... can you help out?
[10:54] <XVampireX> tzar: You already said you are, and I'm trying to find what package you need, I forgot it exactly, trying to find a guide
[10:54] <XVampireX> !wireless
[10:54] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[10:54] <obscurite> blaidd - did you just do a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop? or are you talking about an upgrade of just KDE?
[10:54] <erov> tzar.. did you read those pages i pasted earlier
[10:54] <XVampireX> Yeah
[10:54] <XVampireX> tzar: Go there
[10:54] <XVampireX> It should be about the same with kubuntu
[10:54] <Blaidd> The problem is I'm not sure.  I did some upgrades and an distro-update recently, and xserver stopped working..
[10:55] <Blaidd> I've got it to the point where is goes into X but complains that it cant' find a manager, so I was just trying to reinstall KDE
[10:55] <tzar> erov yes i did, but it said to modify a file that i dont have..
[10:55] <XVampireX> tzar: Here's the one for kubuntu mainly
[10:55] <XVampireX> http://www.diabolikal.org/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.75
[10:55] <erov> k
[10:55] <obscurite> blaidd - i'd say you can remove and reinstall kubuntu-desktop but that's a lot of packages ;)
[10:56] <obscurite> blaidd - see the error in your xorg log?
[10:56] <tzar> .
[10:56] <Blaidd> I haven't looked since it told me I didn't have a manager installed.. I figured I'd go straight to kde at that point
[10:57] <Blaidd> So I tried to remove kubuntu-desktop and it says it's not installed, but when I do an install I get more borkem packages (open office)
[10:57] <LinuxNewbie3> I have officially become a nerd. I am using Linux :(
[10:57] <LinuxNewbie3> lol
[10:57] <obscurite> blaidd - i heard open office has issues in the new ubuntu, so it might just be OO
[10:57] <Blaidd> damn
[10:58] <XVampireX> LinuxNewbie3: using linux does not mean you're a nerd
[10:58] <LinuxNewbie3> Now I am off to configure the extensiosn i got  for firefox.
[10:58] <obscurite> hey linuxnewbi3. good luck
[10:58] <XVampireX> Using linux means you are open to learning new eniviornments and supporting freedom
[10:58] <LinuxNewbie3> XVampireX: Linux aint for normal end users. Hard to use in my exrpeince.
[10:58] <XVampireX> It's easy, really...
[10:59] <XVampireX> It's just not windows, it's different
[10:59] <erov> yeah its easy.. just have to be open to learning
[10:59] <LinuxNewbie3> You didnt have the trouble I had this morning with partitions
[10:59] <paulvolk> I had the same thing
[10:59] <XVampireX> When you learn it, you'll become enlightened
[10:59] <LinuxNewbie3> I know
[10:59] <erov> neko: ditto.. it just wasnt flexible or stable
[10:59] <Blaidd> Well. I guess I'll go back to package hunting :)  Thanks for the help
[10:59] <neko> if only because it seems like windows is always trying to get in my way
[10:59] <paulvolk> I changed to linux about a year ago and it took a while to change from Windows
[10:59] <obscurite> The only downside since I got xinerama working is now windows aren't respecting my panel
[10:59] <XVampireX> LinuxNewbie3: Partitioning is different in linux, yeah. That's why you had the problem.
[10:59] <paulvolk> but it does get easier!!!
[11:00] <XVampireX> But you should always know that there are 2 partitions you need: root boot file system partition, home partition and swap partition
[11:00] <LinuxNewbie3> I need to configure these extensions I got then I need to boot into XP so take a note of all my extensions and then I need to take a note of my programs so I can slowly move over to Open Source versions of them or use WINE on a few :D
[11:00] <Blaidd> obscurite: it looks like there's a java related package that will solve the dependance issues once you get it install
[11:00] <XVampireX> 3^
[11:00] <Blaidd> installed*
[11:00] <LinuxNewbie3> Partition wasnt the hard part that was easy.
[11:00] <LinuxNewbie3> For some reason it would recoginze it
[11:00] <obscurite> blaidd - i have no idea what you're talking about but i'm glad you found something that might help
[11:00] <LinuxNewbie3> Only happeend with Kubuntu 6.06 then it worked for some reason
[11:01] <Blaidd> obscurite: heh okay
[11:01] <LinuxNewbie3> I had a ext3 and swap partition. obth formated and ext3 set to active i clicked next NOTHIGN. It wasnt there like, I never created it i got someone here to help me even sent screenshots tot he guy (alos the screenshot thignis cool :D)
[11:01] <LinuxNewbie3> he said its correct but it still didnt work
[11:02] <LinuxNewbie3> in the end it worked i dont know why maybe its cuase i set the main nTFS as active and then ext3 as active.... ?
[11:02] <XVampireX> LinuxNewbie3: The cool part about dapper is that if you got problem with install, you can always get help ;)
[11:02] <LinuxNewbie3> 1 thing i need heplwith aswell. lol
[11:02] <LinuxNewbie3> How can i UNINSTALL DOM Inspector and Talkback in Firefox ?
[11:02] <LinuxNewbie3> I can disable it but I cannot uninstall it
[11:03] <obscurite> I had this weird problem where more than half the breezy install CD's I burned didn't work. I don't know if it's the ISO or the CDROM drivers, but it really sucked.
[11:03] <obscurite> I've heard some people complain about the dapper ISO too, I hope it's not the same thing again
[11:03] <LinuxNewbie3> The guy i spoke to just before he went said you aint the only 1 who means to be havinf a problem.
[11:04] <neko> obscurite: did you have the burning software verify the disk once it had burned it?
[11:04] <paulvolk> No I downloaded the ISO today and it worked perfectly
[11:04] <serenity> hi
[11:05] <obscurite> neko - i lowered the speed as much as possible, after i found threads on people having the same issue
[11:05] <serenity> my monitor is flimmering, i changed the modeline in the x.org-conf but nothing happened
[11:05] <obscurite> flimmering??
[11:05] <serenity> mom
[11:05] <obscurite> is that like flicker + glimmer?
[11:05] <neko> obscurite: and you were still getting 50% duff burns from the ISO?
[11:05] <serenity> flickering
[11:06] <obscurite> neko - yeah, i mean it could have been my fault, but many people had the same issue
[11:06] <obscurite> serenity - was it flickering before? did you make any changes that might have caused  the problem?
[11:07] <serenity> it was flickering all the time, i installed the nvidia (not nv) drivers, but nothing changed
[11:07] <obscurite> serenity - did it flicker from the time you bought it?
[11:07] <serenity> no, under windows is was ok, 85 hz
[11:07] <serenity> and now 60
[11:09] <obscurite> serenity - did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure server-xorg
[11:09] <serenity> no
[11:09] <nocloud> my laptop monitor is stuck at 640x480 resolution....
[11:09] <nocloud> i can't get it to go higher than that
[11:09] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can fix that?
[11:10] <serenity> shell says that server-xorg is not installed
[11:10] <crazy_penguin> a good night to all! pleasent dreams!
[11:10] <obscurite> nocloud - sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server-xorg
[11:11] <LinuxNewbie3> I am guessing Kubuntu comes with, CD-RWing stuff
[11:11] <LinuxNewbie3> and other software?
[11:11] <LinuxNewbie3> Damn ineed a list of windows to Linux programs
[11:11] <LinuxNewbie3> lol
[11:12] <nocloud> i did use sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server-xorg but the resolution didn't'change even after i selected the correct resolution
[11:12] <nocloud> do i need to reboot first?
[11:12] <serenity> strg+alt+backspace nocloud
[11:12] <XVampireX> Anyways, anyone knows when or if at all kopete 0.12 will be available in the repositories?
[11:13] <obscurite> sorry, i think it's actually dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:13] <XVampireX> Cause I don't like compiling
[11:13] <nocloud> strg?
[11:13] <serenity> strg=ctrll
[11:13] <serenity> strg=ctrl
[11:13] <serenity> sorry
[11:13] <nocloud> thanks
[11:13] <nocloud> i'll go try that
[11:14] <serenity> obscurite: shell says, that x-server is not installed
[11:14] <obscurite> use xserver-xorg instead
[11:15] <serenity> works, but this will override my nvidia-driver?
[11:16] <THY733T> can anybody tell me the ip address of irc.flightgear.org?
[11:16] <obscurite> serenity - if you're worried, make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:17] <iNiku> irc.flightgear.org has address 85.214.36.1
[11:17] <iNiku> but why?
[11:17] <THY733T> thanks iNiku
[11:17] <THY733T> i've problems to connect it
[11:17] <THY733T> 6667 is filtered
[11:17] <serenity> obscurite: so i have to decide. No flickering (nv), or 3d-accl (nvidia)?
[11:17] <obscurite> TH733T - just ping the address to see the IP. type host <domain name>
[11:18] <obscurite> I mean, ping <domain name> or host <domain name>
[11:18] <iNiku> serenity: the nvidia driver has lots of config options, I'm pretty sure you can set it up to use a sensible mode that doesn't flicker
[11:18] <THY733T> i was be able to connect before
[11:18] <serenity> iNiku: no, i found no option for this
[11:18] <THY733T> last 2 two days is problem
[11:19] <THY733T> i've thoguht about DNS problem
[11:19] <iNiku> serenity: have you looked at Xorg.0.log to see what it thinks your monitor can do?
[11:19] <THY733T> then it looks like a routing problem
[11:20] <iNiku> serenity: it will ask the monitor what it's capable of and choose modelines based on that. if you configure a modeline with a higher refresh rate but it thinks your monitor can't handle that, it will be ignored
[11:21] <iNiku> THY733T: try telnet irc.flightgear.org 6667
[11:21] <serenity> iNiku: i thought the modeline will force the resolution. where can i find Xorg.0.log?
[11:21] <iNiku> THY733T: what happens?
[11:21] <iNiku> serenity: it won't, if it would result in a horizontal or vertical refresh rate your monitor cannot handle
[11:21] <iNiku> serenity: or if X thinks your monitor cannot handle it
[11:21] <iNiku>  /var/log/Xorg.o.log
[11:22] <iNiku>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:22] <obscurite> iNiku - do you know much about xinerama?
[11:23] <serenity> iNiku: please look here http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1366/
[11:24] <iNiku> obscurite: no, not much
[11:24] <iNiku> serenity: could you pastebin your xorg.conf, too?
[11:25] <nocloud> how do i get root control in kate to i can save to xorg.conf?
[11:25] <obscurite> iNiku - what's a good string to search for in the xorg log for monitor specs?
[11:25] <jtmoney> nocloud: kdesu or su?
[11:25] <jtmoney> kdesu kate <file> ?
[11:25] <obscurite> nocloud - sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;)
[11:26] <jtmoney> heh
[11:26] <jtmoney> yeah, right =)
[11:26] <jtmoney> kedit ain't bad at all
[11:26] <obscurite> I think I would have a brain hemmorrhage if i edited a system file in a graphical editor ;)
[11:27] <serenity> iNiku: x.org conf http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1367/
[11:27] <nocloud> thanks
[11:27] <serenity> nocloud: did it work?
[11:27] <obscurite> but i'm loving kate
[11:27] <nocloud> yea
[11:27] <obscurite> nocloud - what worked?
[11:27] <nocloud> also, does control-alt-backspace =  reboot?
[11:27] <nocloud> i got my screen resolution back
[11:28] <nocloud> :)
[11:28] <neko> gyah
[11:28] <obscurite> nocloud - that restarts X
[11:28] <nocloud> hmm, okay, i need a reboot then
[11:28] <nocloud> brb
[11:28] <Romeriz> Hi all. I am just trying out Kubuntu 6.06 and I am having an issue with an ipod. I want to specify the mount point to be the same everytime.
[11:28] <neko> looks like the switch to dapper has nuked my sound - anyone have any ideas on what to try?
[11:28] <obscurite> Romeriz - I had the same problem a couple of days ago but haven't solved it yet
[11:29] <Romeriz> obscurite - Well at least I am not alone.
[11:29] <iNiku> serenity: also, could you go to a VT (ctrl-alt-f1 if you're running X now) and do a 'startx -- -logverbose 5 :1', then pastebin /var/log/Xorg.1.log?
[11:29] <obscurite> neko - does kmix show your master volume as non zero?
[11:29] <iNiku> serenity: it may appear to lock up on you, just ctrl-alt-backspace to kill it
[11:30] <iNiku> serenity: umm... so where did those modelines in your xorg.conf come from?
[11:31] <neko> obscurite: kmix is set to 100%
[11:31] <serenity> iNiku: given my the nvidia drivers, just the one 1024x768 was done be me
[11:31] <iNiku> serenity: um... try this:
[11:31] <Ozzzzy> anyone here migrated from Mandriva?
[11:31] <linuxmonkey> wassup
[11:31] <iNiku> serenity: 1. comment out all the modelines
[11:31] <neko> I have two sets of speakers (one connected to the optical output, one to the analogue) and both have gone silent too
[11:31] <serenity> iNiku: is a a problem that there a 2 modelines for 1024?
[11:32] <iNiku> serenity: 2. in the screen section, where it says modes "1024x768@60" etc, replace that line with modes "1024x768"
[11:32] <obscurite> neko - interesting thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182921
[11:32] <LinuxNewbie3> I am loving Kubuntu :D
[11:32] <neko> wait, I got something from the optical
[11:33] <obscurite> neko - if you beat your computer hard enough it will eventually make sounds
[11:33] <zblach> hi. i'm wondering if anyone can help me setup something
[11:33] <zblach> it's unusual, but it should be pretty quick
[11:33] <obscurite> zblach - "something" is pretty advanced ;) anyone know how to operate "something"?
[11:33] <iNiku> serenity: see what happens then
[11:33] <neko> damn thing had reset the IEC958 Loop switch
[11:34] <zblach> what I want to do, is back up a partition every two weeks to a dvd
[11:34] <zblach> the partition is 4.5 gb, and i've just discovered kcron
[11:34] <zblach> how to?
[11:34] <Admiral> maybe one of you can help me with this
[11:34] <neko> that just leaves the question of what's happened to the analogue sound
[11:35] <Admiral> there was an installalation error when i first installed ubuntu
[11:35] <iNiku> serenity: also, ignore the starx thing for now, we need to get your xorg.conf fixed first
[11:35] <iNiku> startx*
[11:35] <Admiral> when it was booting for the first time, it couldn't configure gstreamer0.8
[11:35] <azathoth> anyone here tried installing ktorrent 2.0b1 in dapper yet? i'm getting a nasty bug trying to install
[11:35] <serenity> brb restarting x
[11:36] <Admiral> so not i can't use dpkg or apt-get install or anything
[11:36] <azathoth> dpkg: error processing ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb (--install):
[11:36] <azathoth>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package kdelibs-data
[11:36] <azathoth> anyone got a quick fix?
[11:36] <Admiral> delete the desktop icon
[11:36] <obscurite> zblach - since you have to go and insert the DVD every time manually you may as well do the whole thing manually. scripting it will only save you the trouble of selecting a folder in your burning program
[11:36] <equinoxeB> there's a newer version of gstreamer
[11:36] <Admiral> no thats not the problem
[11:36] <azathoth> there's no desktop icon for it
[11:36] <Admiral> the problem is that i cant install anything
[11:37] <Admiral> !locale
[11:37] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Admiral
[11:37] <obscurite> zblach - you're trying to use a chainsaw to trip your hedges ;)
[11:37] <iNiku> Admiral: what error does it give you?
[11:37] <Admiral> no your no help bot
[11:37] <obscurite> s/trip/trim/
[11:37] <LinuxNewbie3> How can I set Firefox as my default web browser? So saves links open in it from the desktop
[11:37] <zblach> obscurite: apt analogy. what would you recommend to do?
[11:37] <serenity> back
[11:37] <Admiral> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:37] <iNiku> serenity: how does it look?
[11:38] <iNiku> Admiral: well, it tells you what to do right there
[11:38] <obscurite> zblach - i'd just do it manually, until they come out with a sub-$100 dvd changing robot ;)
[11:38] <serenity> iNiku: now it really fuck up
[11:38] <Admiral> !paste
[11:38] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:38] <iNiku> serenity: can you pastebin your current xorg.conf?
[11:38] <Admiral> wait, that doesnt fix it
[11:38] <Admiral> i tried that already
[11:38] <zblach> i don't really mind a 'please insert backup dvd' message.
[11:38] <iNiku> Admiral: what does it say when you do that?
[11:38] <iNiku> serenity: and please explain how is it fscked up now?
[11:39] <obscurite> zblach - you're literally only going to save yourself the trouble of opening the burning program and selecting a folder
[11:39] <Admiral> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15038
[11:39] <obscurite> zblach - if you want unattended backups, use an external hard drive or file server
[11:39] <zblach> obscurite: it also serves as a reminder. i'm notoriously bad at remembering these things
[11:40] <iNiku> Admiral: um... this is right after installing dapper?
[11:40] <Admiral> its right after installing ubuntu
[11:40] <Admiral> the only way i was able to get X to start was to update to dapper
[11:40] <serenity> iNiku: f%(/% beause the only possible resolutions: 800x600 or 1152x768 and only 55hz
[11:40] <obscurite> zblach - for $200 you can probably get yourself a decent external hard drive that can hold months worth of backups. over a year you would save yourself 26 x however many minutes it takes to find a DVD insert it, put it somewhere, etc
[11:40] <LinuxNewbie3> How can I set Firefox as my default web browser? So saves links open in it from the desktop
[11:41] <iNiku> Admiral: you're missing some files required to generate locales
[11:41] <Admiral> how can i fix that?
[11:41] <obscurite> zblach - not as reliable as dozens of indivudual DVDs but if it gets broken, who cares, it's just a backup. okay - no more backup talk. back to kubuntu talk ;)
[11:41] <zblach> obscurite: also very true. thanks.
[11:41] <iNiku> serenity: please pastebin your current xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log
[11:42] <iNiku> Admiral: please explain what exactly you did
[11:42] <Admiral> i was installing ubuntu
[11:42] <iNiku> Admiral: you say this is right after installing ubuntu but you also say you updated to dapper?
[11:42] <serenity> iNiku: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1370/
[11:42] <Admiral> after it set up all packages and asked me to reboot, i did. then while it set up the packages, it failed on gstreamer0.8
[11:43] <iNiku> serenity: um, that's the same as before?
[11:43] <Admiral> i couldn't get X to start, so what i did was update to dapper from the terminal
[11:43] <Admiral> but dpkg is still giving me errors
[11:43] <ljimmy> can anyone tell me why, whenever i try to delete certain unneeded apps, synaptic warns me that it must remove kubuntu-desktop... can anyone help me?
[11:43] <chris_____> hrm
[11:43] <serenity> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1371/
[11:44] <obscurite> ljimmy - some of those things are dependencies of the kubuntu-desktop package. they belong to it.
[11:44] <serenity> iNiku: before it was 1024x768 @60hz
[11:44] <iNiku> Admiral: hmm, okay. wait, that's a weird looking locale anyway
[11:44] <M00N3D> Anybody know where I can get the DIVX codecs for any/all of the Kubuntu/Xubuntu video players?
[11:44] <Admiral> MUMPS
[11:44] <ljimmy> it seems that these packages should be able to be separate from the main program
[11:44] <troy> yikes, noise is nuts in #ubuntu right now - maybe I'll have better luck here.... trying to install flash onto amd64 (dapper, kubuntu) without chroot if possible... if I force the installer to run on amd64, will konq be able to recognize/use the flash libs even though they are 32bit?
[11:44] <serenity> iNiku: seems, that x.org is ignoring just the modeline i created
[11:44] <obscurite> ljimmy - if you want to have a minimal setup without all those packages you'll have to use something else like debian. kubuntu requires a base system that includes many packages you might not need.
[11:45] <iNiku> serenity: please comment out all the modelines and change modes to "1024x768" so I can see what the X server is autodetecting
[11:45] <iNiku> serenity: it's ignoring your modeline because you're not telling it to use it
[11:45] <iNiku> you have 1024x768@60 on the modes line
[11:45] <obscurite> ljimmy - you can prevent anything you don't need from running (and thus taking up memory and CPU) but you can't remove the software from your hard drive if you want to keep the package integrity intact.
[11:45] <serenity> comment out with #?
[11:45] <Hawkwind> Where can I find some good information on PLF and Kubuntu ?
[11:45] <neko> hmm, Konqueror has started opening new windows with the Navigation Panel open - anyone know where to switch that behavior off?
[11:45] <Hawkwind> I have one URL, but it's in French and I can't read all of it
[11:45] <iNiku> serenity: but I would still like to know what it's autodetecting if you don't specify anything
[11:46] <M00N3D> Anybody know where I can get the DIVX codecs for any/all of the Kubuntu/Xubuntu video players?
[11:46] <iNiku> serenity: because you shouldn't need any modelines to begin with
[11:46] <ljimmy> thanks obscurite
[11:46] <iNiku> serenity: yep, comment with #
[11:46] <Admiral> M00N3D: check out mumps
[11:46] <Admiral> that might work
[11:46] <obscurite> ljimmy - you're welcome.
[11:46] <serenity> iNiku: and change the modeline"1024x..." line to what?
[11:47] <iNiku> serenity: modes "1024x768"
[11:47] <Hawkwind> !plf
[11:47] <ubotu> from memory, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[11:47] <Hawkwind> Hmmmm
[11:47] <Hawkwind> Is there not something for PLF in English ?
[11:47] <LinuxNewbie3> equinoxeB: Thanks
[11:48] <neko> Hawkwind: that link?
[11:48] <Hawkwind> neko: A lot of that link is in French
[11:49] <LinuxNewbie3> Now I got to slowly configure Linux. and my new Applications
[11:49] <neko> Hawkwind: almost all of it is in english here
[11:49] <LinuxNewbie3> Can someone give me the URL to that Windows to Linux Program List ?
[11:49] <serenity> iNiku: like that http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1372/ ?
[11:49] <iNiku> Admiral: for some reason it's trying to generate a locale for a language that doesn't exist
[11:49] <askinsonhecesi> I m new in ubuntu. is there any person who will help me? (sorry for my english)
[11:49] <Admiral> Inu
[11:49] <iNiku> Admiral: there's no "en", should be "en_US" or something like that
[11:49] <Admiral> iNiku: i'm removeing locale and reinstalling
[11:49] <iNiku> serenity: um, no
[11:49] <LinuxNewbie3> First I better backup Linux
[11:50] <iNiku> serenity: the modes line is in the screen section
[11:50] <serenity> k
[11:50] <Hawkwind> neko: Well the links and all aren't in English here
[11:50] <LinuxNewbie3> All my editing and programs etc etc is un HOME right ?
[11:50] <iNiku> serenity: you have modes "1024x768@60"... in there now, please replace that with modes "1024x768"
[11:50] <iNiku> serenity: the whole line, that is
[11:51] <Admiral> wait
[11:51] <Hawkwind> neko: I guess the links have nothing else to do with PLF stuff so all I need is that main page
[11:51] <Admiral> i did a sudo dpkg -configure -a
[11:51] <Admiral> and now its doing something
[11:51] <neko> Hawkwind: some links to other parts of the site aren't, but that page itself is
[11:51] <serenity> iNiku: and no commenting out in the monitor section?
[11:52] <iNiku> serenity: you need to comment out all the modelines there
[11:52] <serenity> k
[11:52] <neko> anyone here know where to switch off the new behaviour in Konqueror?
[11:52] <Admiral> i think its working now, it asked me about keymaps
[11:52] <Hawkwind> neko: I'm just trying to find my way around.  Been a Mandriva user for 4+ years and have Kubuntu installed on a spare box and loving it.  Thinking of making a permanent switch :)
[11:52] <iNiku> serenity: show me the result of this on pastebin before you try it :)
[11:53] <neko> Hawkwind: I was in your position a few years back myself - you'd never get me back to mandrake or whatever they're calling themselves now ;o)
[11:53] <Admiral> yup i think i got it
[11:54] <Hawkwind> neko: Hah.  That's definitely encouraging words.  I just need to learn the basics of the *Ubuntu ways and how they do things and I'll be set.  I did get E17 compiled on it from CVS last night so that's a big big plus
[11:54] <serenity> iNiku: that's for u   http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/1373/
[11:55] <iNiku> serenity: you still have one modeline uncommented
[11:55] <simp> hello, a question where can i set the root password in kubuntu?
[11:56] <simp> i need it for using ctrl+alt+F1.F2 etc...
[11:56] <iNiku> serenity: and you didn't replace the whole modes line like I said, but that's probably okay
[11:56] <serenity> iNiku: just saw it, but all other is ok?
[11:56] <ljimmy> simp: did u just install kubuntu or something?
[11:56] <simp> yes i just did install kubuntu
[11:56] <iNiku> serenity: yeah, give it a try
[11:57] <simp> i'm use to suse and lately i used ubuntu but i thought it would be nice to have KDE ljimmy
[11:57] <ljimmy> simp: your root pass should be the same as your primary user's
[11:57] <iNiku> ljimmy: er, no
[11:57] <ljimmy> whoever the first user to sign up was
[11:57] <simp> it isnt
[11:57] <iNiku> there is no root password in ubuntu by default
[11:57] <simp> yeap
[11:57] <ljimmy> oh
[11:57] <simp> you have to set it
[11:57] <iNiku> you can set one by doing a "sudo passwd"
[11:57] <simp> ok
[11:58] <simp> in gnome there was a easy way to do it
[11:58] <simp> without terminal
[11:58] <simp> ok thank you :)
[11:58] <Shuriken> there is no need to set a root password in ubuntu !
[11:58] <ljimmy> just edit /etc/passwd
[11:58] <iNiku> simp: why didn't you just install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu?
[11:58] <iNiku> ljimmy: that's wrong too
[11:58] <ljimmy> fine i give up
[11:58] <iNiku> ljimmy: first, the passwords are not in /etc/passwd, they are in /etc/shadow
[11:58] <serenity> iNiku: my ears did not bleed anymore
[11:58] <ljimmy> :(
[11:58] <serenity> ears=eyes
[11:59] <ljimmy> iNiku: i have all my passwds in etc/passwd
[11:59] <iNiku> ljimmy: second, they are encrypted so it's a little difficult to edit it manually
[11:59] <iNiku> ljimmy: on ubuntu? that's strange, shadow should be enabled by default
[11:59] <iNiku> serenity: that means it works? :)
[11:59] <serenity> iNiku: oh my god, yes. Thank you so much
[12:00] <iNiku> serenity: cool! I'm still wondering where those modelines came from
[12:00] <serenity> iNiku: perhaps the nvidia-installer put them in
[12:00] <iNiku> serenity: you really don't need modelines these days except for some really special cases, it's all autodetected these days
[12:00] <iNiku> serenity: it doesn't
[12:00] <iNiku> serenity: at least not here
[12:01] <serenity> iNiku: i love "...these day..."
[12:01] <iNiku> serenity: anyway... there's one more thing you should do
[12:01] <iNiku> on the modes line, get rid of all the @XX parts
[12:02] <iNiku> the @XX is specifying the refresh rate for that mode and there's no need to enforce that, you should let X pick the best rate your graphics card and monitor can do for each resolution
[12:02] <iNiku> like you just did for 1024x768
[12:02] <serenity> so there is only one entry: modes "1024x768"
[12:03] <iNiku> serenity: well, that means you'll only have that resolution available
[12:03] <serenity> i only need one
[12:03] <iNiku> serenity: if you have several different modes there, you can switch between them with ctrl-alt-<numpad +> and ctrl-alt-<numpad ->
[12:03] <XVampireX> Someone release kopete 0.12 in the repos!
[12:04] <iNiku> serenity: but if you only need one mode, then it's fine to have only that on the modes line
[12:04] <ljimmy> could someone pls visit http://www.jwillows.com and tell me what you see
[12:04] <zblach> anyone have experience setting up dapper on a HP laptop?