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| sistpoty | hi folks | 01:00 |
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| crimsun | hi sistpoty :) | 01:01 |
| sistpoty | seems like I missed the dapper release | 01:01 |
| LaserJock | what? Dapper was released?!?! ;-) | 01:02 |
| crimsun | dude, no, we skipped dapper and went straight to edgy, because edgy has ponies. | 01:03 |
| LaserJock | ohhhh, poooonnnies :-) | 01:04 |
| ajmitch | morning | 01:05 |
| ajmitch | ZOMG PONIES!!!\ | 01:06 |
| ajmitch | sorry | 01:06 |
| ajmitch | I'll calm down now | 01:06 |
| Erl[Work] | poniges? | 01:06 |
| Erl[Work] | err | 01:06 |
| Erl[Work] | ponies? | 01:06 |
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| ajmitch | yes, ponies | 01:06 |
| sistpoty | yeehaa | 01:07 |
| sistpoty | phew... I'm just trying to figure some code of revu2... I must admit that I don't have much clue after this long time not working on revu2 :( | 01:08 |
| ajmitch | hey sistpoty | 01:09 |
| sistpoty | hey ajmitch | 01:10 |
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| LaserJock | yeah, are we going to have a REVU2 day/week or something? | 01:14 |
| sistpoty | not sure... there's still too much stuff to code actually :( | 01:14 |
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| LaserJock | well, a REVU2 sprint then? | 01:15 |
| imbrandon | revu2 ? | 01:15 |
| === sistpoty is just trying to... find out what /me and siretart wrote back then | ||
| === ajmitch looked over the spec recently | ||
| sistpoty | imbrandon: it's like revu but much cooler... and it's vaporware since quite some time ;) | 01:17 |
| ajmitch | fun times, discussing the spec at UBZ | 01:17 |
| imbrandon | heh | 01:17 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch did you get a sec to look at my reupload on revu ? | 01:17 |
| ajmitch | nope | 01:17 |
| imbrandon | kk | 01:18 |
| LaserJock | I'd love to help out with REVU2 but my Python skills are probably lacking quite a bit | 01:18 |
| ajmitch | there's plenty of time until edgy feature freeze | 01:18 |
| LaserJock | well, that and I'm doing like a million things for Edgy already | 01:18 |
| ajmitch | yay, mdz has posted a potential timeline for edgy | 01:18 |
| imbrandon | ohh yea i know , was just curious since thats the first time i've actualy done a full package | 01:19 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 01:19 |
| ajmitch | spec like mad until the 18th! | 01:19 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: I got handed the Ubuntu Developer's Reference today | 01:19 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: sweet! | 01:19 |
| ajmitch | how does it look? | 01:19 |
| ajmitch | can you share it with us mortals? | 01:19 |
| imbrandon | nice LaserJocker | 01:19 |
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| ajmitch | or is it only for Real Developers? ;) | 01:19 |
| LaserJock | well, Ian just got started with it, so it is going to take a lot of work I think | 01:19 |
| Toadstool | heya everybody! | 01:20 |
| imbrandon | moins | 01:20 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: it is based on the DDR though so it should look familiar :-) | 01:20 |
| === ajmitch feels like he's had too much caffeine | ||
| Toadstool | nice, revu2 trac was spammed... | 01:20 |
| LaserJock | spammed? those evil DD's trying to mess up our nice little 0ubuntuX factory :-) | 01:21 |
| Toadstool | ;) | 01:21 |
| ajmitch | burn the DDs! | 01:23 |
| LaserJock | they turned me into a newt :'( | 01:23 |
| ajmitch | heh | 01:23 |
| LaserJock | but I got better ;-) | 01:23 |
| ajmitch | are you going to test if they float? | 01:24 |
| LaserJock | perhaps | 01:24 |
| LaserJock | hmm, perhaps we can weigh sabdfl vs Towns | 01:25 |
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| ajmitch | no contest | 01:27 |
| ajmitch | aj is a midget | 01:27 |
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| imbrandon | but does aj have a pony ? | 01:27 |
| ajmitch | probably | 01:27 |
| ajmitch | BDDEBIAN!!1 | 01:28 |
| imbrandon | heh | 01:28 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 01:28 |
| imbrandon | heya bddebian | 01:28 |
| Toadstool | hi bddebian | 01:28 |
| bddebian | Heya folks! ajmitch, imbrandon, Toadstool, sistpoty :-) | 01:28 |
| sistpoty | hi bddebian | 01:28 |
| ajmitch | ah, cockfosters | 01:29 |
| === LaserJock kicks bddebian in the but | ||
| LaserJock | t | 01:29 |
| bddebian | Oh and Hi LaserJock :-) | 01:30 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: did you bring a pony? | 01:30 |
| bddebian | Sure | 01:30 |
| ajmitch | excellent | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: it's hard to know who to say hi to when I see you say hi in 4 different places :-) | 01:30 |
| bddebian | Yeah, sorry :-) | 01:31 |
| ajmitch | spamming the channels | 01:31 |
| Toadstool | sistpoty: is the revu2 svn repos available for checkouts using http or something? I'd like to play with the code and see if I can help but I can't find any url in the wiki :/ | 01:31 |
| LaserJock | Toadstool: no it is a closed source, heavily guarded secret | 01:31 |
| Toadstool | :) | 01:31 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 01:31 |
| ajmitch | mmm, dapper-changes | 01:31 |
| sistpoty | Toadstool: it was at least... not sure if it still is... give me a sec | 01:31 |
| ajmitch | sweet GNOME 2.14.2 | 01:32 |
| Toadstool | sistpoty: thanks | 01:32 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: where? | 01:32 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: just a few packages for now | 01:32 |
| ajmitch | like zenity, pessulus, glib2.0 | 01:32 |
| ajmitch | deskbar-applet | 01:32 |
| Toadstool | I don't want to have to copy/paste the code from trac browser :p | 01:32 |
| sistpoty | Toadstool: revu2 svn: http://tiber.tauware.de/svn/revu2 | 01:33 |
| Toadstool | cool, thanks :) | 01:34 |
| sistpoty | np | 01:34 |
| TheMuso | Whats better in revu2? | 01:34 |
| === LaserJock grabs it before it hits /. | ||
| sistpoty | TheMuso: it can make coffee and will have lot's of ponies ;) | 01:34 |
| TheMuso | heh | 01:35 |
| sistpoty | and it's not that kind of hack revu1 currently (still) is... but has a more robust codebase | 01:35 |
| LaserJock | it will be soooo worth it to see the ponies on LP ;-) | 01:35 |
| sistpoty | :) | 01:36 |
| ajmitch | there are some cool backgrounds in ubuntu now | 01:36 |
| ajmitch | like those of the international space station ;) | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | I wonder how much they had to pay for those? ;-) | 01:37 |
| ajmitch | probably about 20 million or so | 01:37 |
| ajmitch | tourists... | 01:37 |
| ajmitch | "Ubuntu has the most expensive background images of any distribution out there" | 01:37 |
| bddebian | heh | 01:38 |
| imbrandon | just please tell me it will still keep me registerd and i dont have to do some pgp signing hoops and i'll be happy | 01:38 |
| TheMuso | Ah. We now know when edgy will be opened. | 01:39 |
| imbrandon | TheMuso: we do ? | 01:39 |
| ajmitch | TheMuso: yes, in a few days | 01:39 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: eventually it will use your LP id | 01:39 |
| TheMuso | Yeah I know. | 01:39 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: see -devel list | 01:39 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 01:39 |
| === imbrandon needs to read his email more | ||
| LaserJock | for some stupid reason I've got -announce on a digest | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | so I got the digest today | 01:40 |
| TheMuso | heh | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | and it had dholbach's Hug Day annoucment from like the 16th | 01:40 |
| TheMuso | me should really get onto -announce | 01:42 |
| ajmitch | ah, it was -devel-announce, was it? | 01:43 |
| === ajmitch put -devel & -devel announce mail in the same folder | ||
| TheMuso | Smart that. | 01:43 |
| ajmitch | only smart if I make sure I read all the -devel mail :) | 01:44 |
| TheMuso | heh | 01:45 |
| === Yagisan has them separate, because he skips most of -devel due to low signal to noise | ||
| ajmitch | true that | 01:45 |
| TheMuso | I still skim -devel, only because I may miss an interesting message otherwise. | 01:45 |
| TheMuso | ...and I don't want to do that. | 01:45 |
| TheMuso | The most reading I have to do for -devel is when I first check my mail for the day. | 01:46 |
| TheMuso | Even then I mostly read subjects only, and delete ones I am not interested in. | 01:46 |
| Yagisan | still, compared to d-d, u-d has a higher signal to noise recently, especially after someones recent outburst | 01:46 |
| ajmitch | heh | 01:46 |
| TheMuso | outburst? | 01:47 |
| === TheMuso doesn't remember seeing an outburst | ||
| Toadstool | er, falling asleep on my keyboard... 'night everybody | 01:47 |
| ajmitch | which one? | 01:47 |
| Yagisan | TheMuso: the secretary saw a legit id, that wasn't government issuesd and flipped out | 01:47 |
| ajmitch | night Toadstool | 01:47 |
| bddebian | Gnight ToadZzZztool | 01:48 |
| Yagisan | night ToadZzZztool | 01:48 |
| Yagisan | TheMuso: very much a non-issue, as you shouldn't sign a key if you don't feel the id, identifies the person in front of you | 01:48 |
| TheMuso | um ok | 01:49 |
| === TheMuso now doesn't even know what list Yagisan is talking about. :) | ||
| === TheMuso ponders joining edgy changes. | ||
| Yagisan | TheMuso: d-d | 01:49 |
| TheMuso | oh ok | 01:49 |
| TheMuso | I'm not on that. :) | 01:50 |
| LaserJock | oh for goodness sakes, that is so dumb | 01:50 |
| Yagisan | and yet, it appears to still be going. If it keeps up Edgy + 2 will beat Etch out the door | 01:51 |
| Yagisan | hmm. why do users feel they can abuse developers about bugs ? | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | ? | 01:54 |
| imbrandon | becouse they are ignorant about the hard work often for free that they put into projects | 01:54 |
| imbrandon | they == developers | 01:54 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock: doing bug triage for my upstream project, and received a torrent of abuse for my efforts | 01:55 |
| bddebian | Such is the nature unfortunately :-( | 01:55 |
| === StevenK is still pondering unsubing from debian-devel | ||
| Yagisan | I understand why the other devs where happy for me to triage. They must be burnt out from that | 01:56 |
| Yagisan | StevenK: come on, it's like neighbours, a new drama every day | 01:56 |
| StevenK | Yagisan: Yes, the same drama that was on Home and Away a week ago. | 01:57 |
| StevenK | I swear the writers for those two shows are the same people. | 01:57 |
| Yagisan | StevenK: they are different shows ?!? | 01:57 |
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| Yagisan | StevenK: I can't tell them apart | 01:58 |
| StevenK | The different actors give it away. | 02:01 |
| Yagisan | StevenK: actors ? you must be joking. I've seen better acting in a toilet bowl. | 02:04 |
| bddebian | heh | 02:04 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: you haven't seen shortland street over here then | 02:08 |
| ajmitch | compared to that, both neighbours & H&A have superb acting | 02:08 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: sorry, the last show I saw from you guys was xena. the redhead was nice to look at, but that's about it | 02:09 |
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| ajmitch | heh | 02:12 |
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| === sistpoty is off to bed... gn8 everyone | ||
| === Yagisan idly wonders if it is possible to rig tonights lotto draw so his numbers are drawn | ||
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| TheMuso | heh | 03:07 |
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| LaserJock | hmm, it's June, time to cat my irssi logs for May together :-) | 03:24 |
| ajmitch | hehe | 03:25 |
| ajmitch | you split them by day? | 03:25 |
| LaserJock | I do at first because I can often rememeber what day I want to look through if it is within a week | 03:26 |
| LaserJock | so i'd rather grep through 1 day rather than a month or something | 03:27 |
| === ajmitch never bothered with fancy tricks like that | ||
| LaserJock | I don't know, I'm just getting started with the whole irssi thing | 03:27 |
| === Yagisan never remembers, I usually forget the channel and have to grep the whole lot anyway | ||
| LaserJock | well I don't have that many channels usually, I have 8 I autojoin | 03:28 |
| Yagisan | I have 3 I'm usually in. | 03:29 |
| Fujitsu | I have... | 03:30 |
| LaserJock | really? crimsun has like 40 or something | 03:30 |
| === Fujitsu counts. | ||
| === ajmitch has 30 or so | ||
| ajmitch | I haven't counted | 03:30 |
| Fujitsu | Around 25, on various networks. | 03:30 |
| Yagisan | I have 12 on my list, but I don't log in just to idle | 03:30 |
| LaserJock | I can pretty much only do freenode because I can't use 6667 | 03:31 |
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| crimsun | tehehe, poor bddebian ;-) | 04:18 |
| bddebian | :-) | 04:19 |
| ajmitch | we all love him, really | 04:20 |
| bddebian | Who? | 04:21 |
| ajmitch | bddebian | 04:22 |
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| bddebian | No you don't. :-) | 04:27 |
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| TheMuso | Hey Hobbsee. | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | hi TheMuso | 04:31 |
| LaserJock | hi Hobbsee | 04:32 |
| zul | Hey Hobbsee | 04:33 |
| === Hobbsee waves to LaserJock and zul | ||
| === Hobbsee blows on her hands to try to warm them up | ||
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: Its not that cold. | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | tis here. | 04:35 |
| bddebian | Hi Hobbsee :-) | 04:35 |
| TheMuso | Well you must have been outside recently. | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | true | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | hey bddebian | 04:35 |
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| ajmitch | siretart: I'm azaed at how quickly you got through the AM steps so that you can spend the next 6 months waiting for the FD & DAM ;) | 07:01 |
| ajmitch | s/azaed/amazed/ | 07:01 |
| StevenK | Hah. | 07:02 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: You haven't seen my NM page. | 07:02 |
| === ajmitch looks | ||
| ajmitch | hm | 07:03 |
| ajmitch | not on the nmlist page | 07:03 |
| StevenK | https://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=stevenk%40hasnolife.com | 07:03 |
| ajmitch | looks like you took longer than siretart ;) | 07:04 |
| ajmitch | of course he had to wait a long time to get an AM assigned, unlike you | 07:04 |
| ajmitch | and DAM approval will take a little while | 07:04 |
| StevenK | However, I was only in DAMnation for 2 days. | 07:04 |
| ajmitch | that would be seen as miraculous these days | 07:05 |
| StevenK | It was seen as miraculous then, too. | 07:06 |
| ajmitch | you must have pulled some strings | 07:06 |
| StevenK | Nope | 07:06 |
| StevenK | It just happened. | 07:06 |
| StevenK | I asked elmo about it, and he said, "Your advocate + your AM == fast track" | 07:07 |
| ajmitch | it took me 6 months & 6 days from AM approval to DAM approval | 07:07 |
| StevenK | I didn't even end up doing Task and Skills, since tbm asked joeyh about me, and joeyh said "He knows what he's doing" and tbm just went "Okay, I've approved you." | 07:08 |
| ajmitch | right, joeyh & tbm.. | 07:08 |
| ajmitch | haha | 07:08 |
| ajmitch | impressive | 07:08 |
| ajmitch | what work were you doing back then? | 07:08 |
| StevenK | xringd, with joeyh sponsoring me | 07:08 |
| ajmitch | impressive, you're still maintainer ;) | 07:08 |
| === StevenK nods. | ||
| StevenK | I'm never giving up xringd. ;-) | 07:09 |
| ajmitch | too easy to maintain to orphan it? :) | 07:09 |
| StevenK | Indeed. | 07:09 |
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| StevenK | The only bugs I get are translations. | 07:09 |
| ajmitch | should I do an f-spot upload to sid today? | 07:10 |
| StevenK | Meh, why not. Edgy isn't open yet. :-) | 07:12 |
| ajmitch | it needs rebuilt anyway | 07:12 |
| === StevenK is looking forward to doing syncs again. | ||
| ajmitch | hm, I should fix up my sid chroot so I can connect to the X server properly | 07:13 |
| ajmitch | bind-mounting /tmp only gives me access to the socket | 07:13 |
| ajmitch | I still have to be naughty & do xhost + | 07:13 |
| ajmitch | maybe hardlinking stuff would help | 07:14 |
| === ajmitch waits | ||
| ajmitch | someone by me a faster system :) | 07:17 |
| ajmitch | (and a better keyboard) | 07:19 |
| === chillywilly stuffs some dollars into ajmitch's g-string | ||
| chillywilly | dance boy! dance! ;) | 07:34 |
| LaserJock | ewwwww | 07:35 |
| chillywilly | lol | 07:35 |
| chillywilly | he can earn a faster system ;) | 07:35 |
| LaserJock | chillywilly: you sure about that? ;-) | 07:35 |
| ajmitch | chillywilly: don't even think of suggesting that | 07:37 |
| ajmitch | you are sick | 07:37 |
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| Lathiat | hahaha | 07:37 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: I bind mount /tmp and /home | 07:37 |
| chillywilly | ajmitch: you know I am joking :) | 07:38 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: That seems to work. | 07:38 |
| ajmitch | yeah, I thought about bind-mounting /home as well | 07:38 |
| chillywilly | bddebian would appreciate my humor.... | 07:38 |
| chillywilly | where is that old man anyway? | 07:38 |
| ajmitch | bddebian is also sick | 07:38 |
| StevenK | I'm waiting for schroot, I'm sick of having all these bind mounts sticking around all the time. | 07:38 |
| StevenK | Hrm. | 07:39 |
| StevenK | It seems to be in Dapper. | 07:39 |
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| === StevenK sighs at usplash_fifo some more. | ||
| StevenK | It really messes up my completion of /usr. | 07:41 |
| ajmitch | hehe | 07:41 |
| === Lathiat mdoesnt see a usplash_fifo | ||
| ajmitch | sigh, cdbs | 07:42 |
| === ajmitch kicks cdbs a few times | ||
| StevenK | prw-r----- 1 root root 0 2006-06-02 22:32 /usplash_fifo | 07:43 |
| StevenK | Also exists on my laptop. | 07:43 |
| Lathiat | not for me | 07:43 |
| ajmitch | you're spethial though | 07:43 |
| StevenK | Lathiat or me? :-P | 07:43 |
| === ajmitch doesn't have it on the laptop | ||
| ajmitch | StevenK: you're the only person lucky enough | 07:44 |
| StevenK | Curious. | 07:44 |
| ajmitch | though I haven't rebooted my machines for a few weeks | 07:44 |
| ajmitch | yay, got rid of a few lintian warnings | 07:44 |
| StevenK | I rebooted right after my upgrade to Dapper. | 07:44 |
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| ajmitch | ok, f-spot seems to work | 07:48 |
| ajmitch | might as well upload :) | 07:48 |
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| ajmitch | whiprush_: interesting blog post about sabayon/pessulus & network auth | 07:53 |
| whiprush_ | ajmitch: yeah ... one gets lucid when deloying gnome/linux desktops along side windows desktops. | 07:54 |
| ajmitch | heh | 07:54 |
| ajmitch | there are some weird & wonderful things we could do for ubuntu | 07:55 |
| whiprush_ | yeah | 07:56 |
| whiprush_ | IMO, the user-level stuff is there. | 07:56 |
| whiprush_ | it's the system level stuff that's kind of lacking. | 07:56 |
| ajmitch | how much do you think we can whack in as a distro? | 08:00 |
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| nomed | hi all | 08:03 |
| ajmitch | hi | 08:05 |
| nomed | ajmitch, any idea when it's possible to start pkging for edjy ? | 08:06 |
| ajmitch | whenever you want | 08:12 |
| nomed | good! | 08:13 |
| nomed | and could anyone take a look to xapian and libtextcat pkges ? | 08:13 |
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| siretart | morning | 09:08 |
| siretart | ajmitch: I'm amazed as well. I got my AM last monday | 09:08 |
| Tonio_ | hello all :) | 09:09 |
| ajmitch | morning siretart :) | 09:09 |
| ajmitch | hi Tonio_ | 09:09 |
| Tonio_ | hey ajmitch | 09:09 |
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| AnAnt | is there a certain reason that there aren't kernel images specifically for Pentium M ? | 09:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | it dosent need any? | 09:31 |
| Lathiat | because theres no reason to generate them? | 09:31 |
| tseng | a pentium m is a 686 | 09:32 |
| tseng | you dont need 600 kernel images | 09:32 |
| AnAnt | tseng: I found a Pentium M in the kernel configuration | 09:33 |
| tseng | congratulations | 09:33 |
| AnAnt | tseng: doesn't that add any features for the Pentium M systems ? | 09:33 |
| tseng | no, it changes the compiler flags | 09:33 |
| AnAnt | ic | 09:33 |
| tseng | to optimize to the pentium m instruction set | 09:33 |
| AnAnt | thx | 09:33 |
| tseng | which makes it unusable anywhere else | 09:34 |
| tseng | we have enough images to test as it is | 09:34 |
| tseng | and there isnt a substantial benefit | 09:34 |
| AnAnt | ic | 09:34 |
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| AnAnt | ok, now, I the reason I am recompiling the kernel is that I am applying a patch for MMC v4 device support , if that works, shall I upload the new source/patch somewhere in MOTU or so ? | 09:35 |
| tseng | I don't know what that is | 09:35 |
| tseng | but no | 09:35 |
| tseng | you can try to get it in edgy, #ubuntu-kernel | 09:36 |
| AnAnt | ok | 09:37 |
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| dannz | can anyone tell me how big the ubuntu dapper repo is? | 10:44 |
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| Toadstool | heya MOTUs | 11:13 |
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| Hobbsee | hey Toadstool | 11:32 |
| Toadstool | heya Hobbsee | 11:32 |
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| sladen | StevenK: there's a but about that. It happens if usplash is started and the chdir() fails. There's a bug about it; can you please confirm it | 11:56 |
| Hobbsee | heya StevenK | 11:57 |
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| StevenK | sladen: Certainly. | 12:02 |
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| StevenK | Hobbsee: Sorry, playing with schroot. | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 12:02 |
| StevenK | sladen: It is already Confirmed. | 12:04 |
| StevenK | And Keybuk has replied, so it should hopefully get fixed. | 12:04 |
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| sladen | StevenK: can you please add that you have experienced it aswell | 12:12 |
| sladen | StevenK: the number of duplicates/comments is what I use as a measure of which bugs to focus on | 12:13 |
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| StevenK | sladen: Done. | 12:16 |
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| AnAnt | I compiled the linux kernel (which I got from the repos), but I don't get splash screen, why is that ? btw, I compiled using make-kpkg & installed the resulting *.deb files | 01:32 |
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| AnAnt | I compiled the linux kernel (which I got from the repos), but I don't get splash screen, why is that ? btw, I compiled using make-kpkg & installed the resulting *.deb files using dpkg. I also ran update-initramfs -u | 02:09 |
| Toadstool | AnAnt: this is the kind of questions you should ask on #ubuntu instead of here | 02:09 |
| AnAnt | none knows answer there | 02:10 |
| AnAnt | besides someone here told me to do the update-initramfs | 02:10 |
| AnAnt | but that didn't work either | 02:10 |
| Toadstool | I'm sure somebody knows but you have to wait for him to read the question ;) | 02:10 |
| AnAnt | k | 02:10 |
| shawarma | AnAnt: Which bootloader are you using? | 02:13 |
| AnAnt | grub | 02:13 |
| shawarma | Ok. Does the relevant entry have "splash" in the command line? | 02:13 |
| AnAnt | shawarma: yup , it has ro queit splash vga=0x314 just like the old kernels | 02:14 |
| shawarma | AnAnt: Ok. | 02:14 |
| StevenK | Hum. | 02:16 |
| StevenK | My screensaver didn't lock for some reason. | 02:16 |
| StevenK | Scrap that, my screensaver didn't activate at all. | 02:16 |
| shawarma | AnAnt: Do you know how to unpack your initrd ? | 02:18 |
| zakame | hi all | 02:18 |
| AnAnt | shawarma: you mean install ? | 02:18 |
| shawarma | AnAnt: No. | 02:18 |
| shawarma | AnAnt: Unpack it to examine the contents. | 02:18 |
| AnAnt | hmm | 02:19 |
| shawarma | AnAnt: Like so: | 02:19 |
| AnAnt | cpio | 02:19 |
| shawarma | AnAnt: mkdir /tmp/initrd ; cd /tmp/initrd ; zcat /boot/initrd-whatever | cpio -i | 02:19 |
| AnAnt | ok | 02:19 |
| AnAnt | did so | 02:19 |
| AnAnt | so ? | 02:20 |
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| shawarma | Great. Check if /tmp/initrd/scripts/init-top/usplash is there. | 02:21 |
| \sh | moins | 02:21 |
| shawarma | Hi \hs! | 02:21 |
| shawarma | Eh... | 02:22 |
| shawarma | \sh, even. :-) | 02:22 |
| AnAnt | yup it does exist there | 02:22 |
| \sh | hey shawarma... | 02:22 |
| shawarma | AnAnt: And so is /tmp/initrd/sbin/usplash I suppose.. | 02:23 |
| AnAnt | yup | 02:23 |
| shawarma | Hmm... tough one. | 02:24 |
| AnAnt | hmmm | 02:24 |
| AnAnt | I think I found it | 02:24 |
| AnAnt | in the conf/modules file | 02:24 |
| AnAnt | I see filenames of things that were on my homedir !!!! | 02:24 |
| AnAnt | why's that ? | 02:24 |
| shawarma | Good question. It's generated by mkinitramfs. | 02:24 |
| AnAnt | aha, so ? | 02:25 |
| shawarma | It shouldn't matter that much, though. | 02:25 |
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| shawarma | As long as vesafb is in there, you should be fine. | 02:25 |
| AnAnt | it isn't there | 02:25 |
| AnAnt | only files that were in my home dir | 02:25 |
| zakame | heya \sh! | 02:26 |
| AnAnt | what does my homedir have to do with initramfs ?! | 02:26 |
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| AnAnt | anyways, how can I fix that ? | 02:30 |
| shawarma | AnAnt: I'm not sure yet. gimme a sec. | 02:31 |
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| shawarma | AnAnt: Have you tried update-initramfs -c ? | 02:35 |
| AnAnt | shawarma: yup | 02:36 |
| AnAnt | what does that do anyways ? | 02:36 |
| shawarma | AnAnt: Creates a new one insted of updating an old one. | 02:36 |
| shawarma | ....and that didnt helt? | 02:36 |
| AnAnt | nope | 02:37 |
| AnAnt | shawarma: when should I do the update-initramfs ? after I boot in new kernel or while I am still on old kernel ? | 02:37 |
| AnAnt | wait I did update-initramfs -u not -c | 02:39 |
| shawarma | AnAnt: Well, if you don't tell it which kernel to work on, it'll assume the currently running one. | 02:40 |
| AnAnt | ok I just ran : update-initramfs -k 2.6.15.7-ubuntu1.mmc4-686m -c , and it didn't work | 02:41 |
| shawarma | What do you mean? it failed or it didn't helt? | 02:43 |
| shawarma | help.. | 02:43 |
| AnAnt | it didn't help | 02:43 |
| shawarma | Ok. | 02:43 |
| AnAnt | what I realized is that mkinitramfs put the filenames that are in the current directory in that conf/modules file | 02:43 |
| shawarma | You havent' touched anything /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf right? | 02:43 |
| AnAnt | dunno why | 02:43 |
| AnAnt | nope | 02:44 |
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| AnAnt | I don't have that dir either | 02:44 |
| AnAnt | I get /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf | 02:44 |
| AnAnt | I got /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf | 02:44 |
| shawarma | Er.. Yeah, that's what I meant. :-) | 02:47 |
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| AnAnt | shawarma: ok, I put vesafb in /etc/mkinitramfs/modules file | 02:50 |
| AnAnt | shawarma: and ran update-initramfs | 02:50 |
| AnAnt | now it contains the modules I put in /etc/mkinitramfs/modules file alright, but it also contains the filenames that were in the current directory | 02:51 |
| AnAnt | I don't understand this wierd behaviour ! | 02:51 |
| shawarma | No, it sounds pretty weird. | 02:51 |
| shawarma | You run update-initramfs -u right? | 02:51 |
| AnAnt | nope, -c | 02:52 |
| shawarma | Ok. Ill just try it here. | 02:52 |
| AnAnt | shall I try a -u ? | 02:52 |
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| shawarma | AnAnt: Hang on for a sec. | 02:53 |
| shawarma | AnAnt: I just ran it and it looks just right. | 02:54 |
| AnAnt | hmmm | 02:55 |
| AnAnt | is it a problem to have such extra stuff ? | 02:56 |
| shawarma | Not really. | 02:56 |
| AnAnt | I'll give it a reboot & see | 02:56 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:48 |
| Gloubiboulga | hey bddebian | 03:49 |
| bddebian | Heya Gloubiboulga | 03:50 |
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| tuxmaniac | heya. Any probs with OO.o ? Seems like it is not properly quitting.. Taking a long time to come up and swallows a helluva lot of RAM | 04:34 |
| _ion | That sounds just like the normal OOo behavior. :-) | 04:38 |
| tuxmaniac | _ion: heh | 04:39 |
| Bazzi | hmm | 04:39 |
| Bazzi | lots of those issues have been fixed in 2.0.2 though | 04:40 |
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| tuxmaniac | I have the latest Dapper updates.. Still so many issues.. | 04:40 |
| tuxmaniac | Bazzi: is that a thing that is being looked into already? | 04:41 |
| Bazzi | yes | 04:41 |
| Bazzi | they try to improve in that area constantly | 04:41 |
| Bazzi | since there are LOTS of issues still to be resolved | 04:41 |
| tuxmaniac | 1.9 was far better.. I feel | 04:41 |
| Bazzi | I still use MS Office :( | 04:42 |
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| \sh | re | 05:00 |
| lastnode | can anyone tell me why ubuntu doesnt have a cube package yet? | 05:01 |
| \sh | what is cube? | 05:02 |
| lastnode | http://www.cubeengine.com/ | 05:04 |
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| lastnode | the source is right there - http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/cube/cube_2005_08_29_src.zip?download | 05:04 |
| lastnode | if anyone is interested, id be happy to package it or whatever | 05:04 |
| lastnode | i just played it, and it's fantastic | 05:04 |
| lastnode | played online, even from sri lanka | 05:05 |
| lastnode | that's a first | 05:05 |
| lastnode | :) | 05:05 |
| Bazzi | sadly ubuntu has close to nothing gaming relatesd | 05:05 |
| crimsun | "close to nothing"? That's a bit of a stretch, isn't it? | 05:07 |
| crimsun | True, only a few, but that's hardly /nothing/ | 05:07 |
| Bazzi | well, I haven't seen anything useful :( | 05:07 |
| lastnode | crimsun, i think he means 'gaming' as opposed to "oh look, it's gnome-tetris' ;-) | 05:08 |
| lastnode | but seriously, who do i need to talk to about this? | 05:08 |
| Bazzi | yes, I mean 3d-gaming let's put it this way | 05:08 |
| \sh | it's not really OSS | 05:09 |
| lastnode | \sh, the source is available for download? | 05:10 |
| lastnode | i admit i havent seen the license though | 05:10 |
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| \sh | it looks like only the source is free as in ZLIB license but artwork can't be freely distributed by others.... | 05:10 |
| \sh | actually it's a bit strange, sauerbraten (the sequel) is zlib license licensed but not the artwork.. | 05:11 |
| \sh | and for cube I don't see a license at all | 05:11 |
| crimsun | "you may freely distribute the cube archive unmodified on any media" <---- | 05:11 |
| crimsun | note the unmodified | 05:12 |
| \sh | oh no...same zlib thing | 05:12 |
| Bazzi | crimsun: would still be a candidate for a msttcorefonts-like package wouldn't it? | 05:12 |
| theCore | well, if it's on Sourceforge it must have a valid open-source licence | 05:13 |
| crimsun | Bazzi: certainly you can write a wrapper that will download it | 05:13 |
| \sh | theCore: the source is zlib license, which is sf.net approved, but I don't see any maps or whatever... | 05:14 |
| \sh | it could also be, that i'm a tetris player and don't need any shooters | 05:14 |
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| lastnode | would anyone be willing to work with me on this? | 05:21 |
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| OVErcLK | hi | 05:31 |
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| jpatrick | ajmitch: are you there? | 07:12 |
| ajmitch | no | 07:13 |
| ajmitch | if you have a question, ask it | 07:14 |
| jpatrick | can you update pbuilder on revu? | 07:14 |
| \sh | ajmitch: pbuilder update on tiber ;) | 07:14 |
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| ajmitch | I can't help you if you want it updated to edgy... | 07:18 |
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| ajmitch | updated for dapper | 07:19 |
| NthDegree | does anyone know if SElinux supports JFS? | 07:29 |
| ajmitch | assuming that JFS supports extended attributes & security labels, then yes | 07:29 |
| tseng | i think it does as of a year or so ago | 07:30 |
| tseng | possibly by patch | 07:30 |
| ajmitch | looks to be enabled in the ubuntu kernel | 07:30 |
| NthDegree | i'm just wondering if it's worth using JFS | 07:30 |
| NthDegree | or if i'll need god knows how many partitions in order to use it optimally | 07:31 |
| ajmitch | a recent thread on the selinux list recommended either XFS or ext3 | 07:31 |
| ajmitch | however there are people using it on JFS | 07:32 |
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| NthDegree | ideally I want kubuntu as my main OS with xubuntu (or a specially modified form of ubuntu) for development | 07:34 |
| ajmitch | be aware that there's minimal selinux support in dapper | 07:35 |
| NthDegree | true | 07:36 |
| NthDegree | i want to help change that :) so red hat doesn't brag so much | 07:36 |
| NthDegree | what FS would you choose? | 07:39 |
| ajmitch | ext3, or maybe xfs | 07:39 |
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| \sh | ext3 for small paritions, xfs for large ones | 07:40 |
| \sh | 73GB partition and formatting it with ext3 on a raid6 volume: 2 minutes | 07:41 |
| \sh | 6.3TB partition on raid 6 volume formated with XFS: less then 3 seconds | 07:41 |
| \sh | no joke | 07:41 |
| NthDegree | well I have a single 225GB hard disk, and want optimal performance on kubuntu | 07:41 |
| NthDegree | so how would I go splitting it all up? and what FSes to use? | 07:42 |
| \sh | NthDegree: /boot == ext2 / and /home and /var can be xfs..it's fast and reliable | 07:42 |
| \sh | anyways...I'm stopping now and watching some movies :) | 07:43 |
| _ion | Unless your hardware causes the computer to crash occassionally. | 07:43 |
| ogra | \sh, slacker ... | 07:43 |
| \sh | ogra: hehe | 07:43 |
| ogra | :) | 07:44 |
| NthDegree | so how to split up my space? | 07:44 |
| \sh | ogra: you don't have to fight against suse ;) | 07:44 |
| ogra | i dont even see her very much anymore | 07:44 |
| \sh | ogra: oh no..I meant SuSE | 07:45 |
| \sh | not your suse | 07:45 |
| ogra | ah | 07:45 |
| ogra | capitalization was missing :) | 07:45 |
| \sh | yes sorry | 07:45 |
| zul | bah.. | 07:45 |
| ajmitch | heh | 07:46 |
| \sh | NthDegree: depends on what you want | 07:47 |
| \sh | NthDegree: server, workstation, playstation? | 07:47 |
| NthDegree | for kubuntu I want a workstation, for xubuntu it will be development but one single partition | 07:48 |
| \sh | NthDegree: you need just one installation...and install xubuntu-desktop on your kubuntu system.. | 07:50 |
| NthDegree | \sh you sure? I just don't want to clutter up my system when I learn how to make good reliable packages | 07:51 |
| NthDegree | if there's no problem with one installation then kubuntu on it's own will do brilliantly | 07:51 |
| ajmitch | wow | 07:52 |
| ajmitch | my package got ACCEPTED into debian | 07:52 |
| _ion | What should i do in order to get my Picard package <http://hassers.fi/ubuntu/dists/dapper/> to Edgy universe? | 07:52 |
| ajmitch | only 1 month in NEW! | 07:52 |
| \sh | NthDegree: good realiable packages you do with pbuilder and debootstrap and not on your running system | 07:52 |
| zul | ajmitch: new record? | 07:53 |
| ajmitch | zul: NEW processing has been a little slow lately :) | 07:53 |
| zul | ah.. | 07:53 |
| NthDegree | so a multiboot would be best then \sh? | 07:53 |
| Gloubiboulga | _ion, upload your package on REVU, motus will looke at it, and when it's OK and advocated twice, it'll be uploaded to Universe | 07:54 |
| \sh | NthDegree: no...you don't need multiboot... | 07:54 |
| \sh | NthDegree: you can test in a chroot | 07:54 |
| _ion | gloubiboulga: Thanks. | 07:54 |
| ajmitch | I have 1 RC bug in debian though (non-free docs) | 07:55 |
| Gloubiboulga | _ion, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU will help you | 07:55 |
| \sh | NthDegree: so I would think that /boot == 100MB ext2 , / == 20GB xfs , /var == 20 GB xfs, swap partition the double ammount of your RAM and the rest /home with xfs | 07:55 |
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| NthDegree | \sh you like your xfs don't you :) | 07:56 |
| ajmitch | you said you wanted performance | 07:56 |
| ajmitch | ext3 is slow in the default journalling mode | 07:56 |
| \sh | NthDegree: it's faster then ext3, more reliable then ext2/ext3 and reiserfs, and needs less memory then jfs | 07:57 |
| ajmitch | depending on how much RAM you have, double that in swap may not be needed | 07:57 |
| \sh | ajmitch: right...16GB ram, you don't need swap, or you want to use suspend to ram ;) | 07:57 |
| ajmitch | \sh: actually I did set it up with 16GB RAM + 16GB swap ;) | 07:57 |
| \sh | or hibante | 07:57 |
| NthDegree | well I have 1024MB RAM and an AMD athlon 64 | 07:58 |
| \sh | hibernate | 07:58 |
| \sh | NthDegree: set 2gb swap | 07:58 |
| ajmitch | right, with only 1GB RAM, you'll need swap | 07:58 |
| \sh | you have enough diskspace | 07:58 |
| === _ion hopes edgy doesn't create a swap partition at all by default, and it uses swap files allocated on-demand. | ||
| \sh | ajmitch: but actually you are not normal ;) | 07:59 |
| \sh | ajmitch: neither am I ;) | 07:59 |
| ajmitch | I know I'm not normal :) | 07:59 |
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| theCore | what is the normal procedure for importing a packages from Debian to Ubuntu? | 08:07 |
| \sh | a sync | 08:07 |
| \sh | ok..going to rest a bit...laters friends | 08:08 |
| theCore | a sync? | 08:08 |
| ajmitch | yep | 08:08 |
| ajmitch | which will start automatically once edgy opens | 08:08 |
| theCore | how I do that? | 08:08 |
| theCore | oh | 08:08 |
| ajmitch | for packages that we haven't modified | 08:08 |
| theCore | so, we don't need to do anything about them? | 08:09 |
| ajmitch | nope | 08:09 |
| theCore | that is nice | 08:09 |
| ajmitch | however if we've made any changes in ubuntu in a package, we need to merge them | 08:09 |
| === bmonty is glad that auto syncing will resume soon :) | ||
| ajmitch | bmonty! | 08:10 |
| bmonty | hi ajmitch | 08:10 |
| ajmitch | how are you? | 08:10 |
| bmonty | good, you? | 08:10 |
| ajmitch | alright :) | 08:10 |
| ajmitch | I should sleep more, really | 08:10 |
| bmonty | I'm playing with my new hardware :) | 08:10 |
| ajmitch | but it's almost too late by now | 08:10 |
| ajmitch | oh shut up :P | 08:11 |
| theCore | ajmitch: ah, that what is sync and merge mean, thanks for the info | 08:11 |
| === ajmitch only has old, slow hardware to put up with ;) | ||
| theCore | ajmitch: I better clarify it in the Packaging Guide | 08:11 |
| bmonty | I'm impressed the volume and web buttons on this keyboard work out of the box with dapper :) | 08:12 |
| ajmitch | total used free shared buffers cached | 08:12 |
| ajmitch | Mem: 16230 1996 14233 0 248 1508 | 08:12 |
| ajmitch | -/+ buffers/cache: 239 15991 | 08:12 |
| ajmitch | & that box is running dapper :) | 08:12 |
| theCore | ajmitch: o_O, without gui, I hope | 08:13 |
| ajmitch | theCore: why do you hope that? | 08:13 |
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| === ajmitch thinks it could probably handle a gui fairly well, apart from the lack of graphics hardware | ||
| theCore | ajmitch: ah, you got me | 08:14 |
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| ajmitch | I should put the nx server on it & run gnome from home | 08:15 |
| ajmitch | argh | 08:15 |
| ajmitch | server at work went down again | 08:15 |
| ajmitch | we thought those hardware troubles were over... | 08:16 |
| theCore | I made a pretty nice emacs CVS package, anyone interested? | 08:18 |
| Erlang | isn't that already in Debian/Ubuntu as emacs-snapshot? | 08:19 |
| theCore | Erlang: well, mine has Xfont & Unicode support | 08:19 |
| Erlang | ok | 08:19 |
| Erlang | I don't think I need that. | 08:19 |
| theCore | *sigh* I think I'm the only one running gtk-emacs | 08:20 |
| Erlang | I don't like GTK... | 08:20 |
| Erlang | so there | 08:20 |
| theCore | Erlang: what do you like? CLI, Qt? | 08:22 |
| Erlang | Qt | 08:22 |
| Erlang | I'm a KDE guy. | 08:22 |
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| theCore | is it hard to make a apt repository server? | 08:26 |
| ajmitch | nope | 08:27 |
| === ajmitch trawls forums for misplaced bugreports | ||
| ajmitch | theCore: see apt-ftparchive | 08:27 |
| Erlang | I use mini-dinstall myself. | 08:28 |
| bmonty | brb | 08:30 |
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| theCore | ajmitch: is it a reason why apt-ftparchive isn't into the repository? | 08:33 |
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| theCore | Erlang: thanks, that is what I was searching for | 08:34 |
| crimsun | theCore: it is. It's in apt-utils. | 08:35 |
| theCore | crimsun: oh, I see, thanks | 08:35 |
| _ion | thecore: apt-file is handy: luotain% apt-file search apt-ftparchive | 08:36 |
| _ion | apt-utils: usr/bin/apt-ftparchive | 08:36 |
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| theCore | _ion: thanks, my intuition tell me that utility will become really handy soon | 08:40 |
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| bmonty | what is the package that adds a terminal option to the menu when you right click on the main screen? | 08:49 |
| ajmitch | nautilus-open-terminal? | 08:49 |
| bmonty | yes, thanks! | 08:49 |
| theCore | why dpkg-buildpackage need to be run by root (or fakeroot) | 08:53 |
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| crimsun | note the install paths of the files in debs. | 08:54 |
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| ajmitch | and to be able to set ownership to something other than the user it is running as | 08:56 |
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| theCore | ajmitch: ah, that makes more sense | 08:57 |
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| theCore | is there big capatibility issues between Ubuntu and Debian? | 09:59 |
| tseng | what do you mean by capability | 09:59 |
| tseng | is the word you are looking for "compatibility"? | 09:59 |
| tuxmaniac | tseng: thats understood :-) | 10:00 |
| tseng | they mean completely different things. | 10:00 |
| theCore | compatibility* | 10:01 |
| tseng | no, there are not issues | 10:01 |
| tseng | almost everything will work with a simple rebuild | 10:01 |
| tseng | if even that is nessecary | 10:01 |
| tseng | I recommend it | 10:01 |
| === plugwash just wishes that someone with permission to do so would upload some freepascal binaries | ||
| theCore | tseng: so, Debian packages works without any changes on Ubuntu, and vis versa? | 10:02 |
| tseng | almost always | 10:02 |
| _ion | thecore: The source packages pretty much do. | 10:02 |
| tseng | a few things not | 10:02 |
| plugwash | theCore the pacakge format is the same but sometimes rebuilding is nessacery due to dependency issues | 10:02 |
| theCore | tseng: which? | 10:03 |
| tseng | I dont know? | 10:03 |
| tseng | we change a handful of things | 10:03 |
| tseng | I cant say whether your package is changed or not | 10:03 |
| tseng | since you didnt mention what it is | 10:03 |
| plugwash | in particular debian/ubuntu use a dependency scanning system that means packages don't tend to install on systems older than the one they were built on | 10:03 |
| tseng | chances are a rebuild is plenty | 10:03 |
| bmonty | theCore: you could also have wierd problems since there might be different libs or compilers between debian and ubuntu | 10:04 |
| bmonty | rebuilds will usually fix that | 10:04 |
| theCore | so there's no problem adding a source repository from Debian on a Ubuntu system? | 10:05 |
| crimsun | theCore: the ones in Debian that most likely won't are the ones in /current/ unstable and experimental | 10:05 |
| crimsun | theCore: meaning more recently versioned build-dependencies | 10:06 |
| bmonty | anyone know how to list the bus ids for pci express? | 10:06 |
| theCore | ok, thanks all | 10:06 |
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| spacey | http://warsow.net <- something for universe?:) | 11:33 |
| \sh | where is the source? | 11:37 |
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| Gazer | holas | 11:43 |
| Gazer | sorry :P | 11:43 |
| \sh | spacey: this game needs java, and doesn't work on dapper somehow...at least not on this laptop ;) | 11:48 |
| spacey | ok :p | 11:50 |
| spacey | i don't play games myself | 11:50 |
| spacey | but i thought it looked interesting | 11:50 |
| spacey | they said it was based on the quake2 gpl engine | 11:50 |
| spacey | apparently its not free software | 11:51 |
| \sh | spacey: it has a gnu license shiped ;) because they use SDL | 11:55 |
| \sh | but I don't find the source, or is it the SDK? | 11:55 |
| spacey | no idea | 11:56 |
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| _ion | The game seems very nice. I hope it really is open source. I skimmed through the file list of the SDK archive, it _might_ contain the whole source for the game. | 11:59 |
| _ion | I think they have to publish the source because it's based on the q2 engine. | 11:59 |
| \sh | _ion: try to build it ;) | 11:59 |
| _ion | sh: Right now i'm too tired, but i'll probably try tomorrow. | 12:00 |
| _ion | I'm about to go to sleep. | 12:00 |
| \sh | _ion: hehe :) I can understand that....I will go to bed just now too | 12:00 |
| spacey | also important how the artwork is licensed. it doesn't have to be free because of the engine | 12:01 |
| spacey | afaik | 12:01 |
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