[03:17] <mirel> Hi, I'm switching from Fedora to Ubuntu. I need desktop functionality + Apache/PHP/MySQL. I'm wandering what release should I install - desktop or server? Do they share a common package repository? Thanks
[03:22] <infinity> mirel: I answered your question in #-offtopic. :)
[03:27] <mirel> do you know if LVM is well supported in Ubuntu, it worked great in Fedora
[03:28] <infinity> Yeah, it works just fine.
[03:28] <infinity> The installed will set it up out of the box too, if you use the "text-mode" install CD.
[03:28] <infinity> The desktop/GUI installer doesn't do LVM yet.
[03:29] <infinity> s/installed/installer/
[03:30] <mirel> thanks, starting to install right now , bye
[03:56] <brass> anybody home?
[04:00] <brass> well, I have a very fresh install of ubuntu server LAMP and I am trying to install vmware server, and thier VMware Server Web-based management interface.
[04:01] <brass> due to vmware server's dependancy on X, I also installed ubuntu-desktop
[04:01] <brass> vmware server has installed with no problems
[04:02] <brass> but, the management interface gives me this error:
[04:02] <brass> From your Linux distribution CD, install this package:
[04:02] <brass> compat-db-<#>.<#>.<##>-<#>.i386.rpm or libdb#.deb
[04:03] <infinity> You might want libdb1-compat
[04:03] <brass> Does anybody know what I need to apt-get to install the libdb
[04:03] <brass> ok
[04:03] <infinity> I'm not sure from your paste which libdb they actually want.
[04:04] <brass> "apt-get install libdb1-compat"
[04:04] <brass> to finish the paste
[04:04] <brass> "where # is a version number particular to your version of the distrobution"
[04:04] <brass> so i assume that its not to particular.
[04:04] <infinity> Try libdb1-compat and see if it stops whining.
[04:05] <brass> ok, thanks.
[04:05] <infinity> There are many (many) versions of libdb, all incompatible, but if they wanted db2, db3, or db4.x, I suspect they'd specify.
[04:05] <infinity> And from the RPM name, I'm assuming db1-compat
[04:08] <brass_> well, I got kicked when i vpn'ed into my work, so can you repeat what I missed?
[04:13] <infinity> 20:04 < infinity> Try libdb1-compat and see if it stops whining.
[04:13] <infinity> 20:05 < brass> ok, thanks.
[04:13] <infinity> 20:05 < infinity> There are many (many) versions of libdb, all incompatible, but if they wanted
[04:13] <infinity>                   db2, db3, or db4.x, I suspect they'd specify.
[04:13] <infinity> 20:05 < infinity> And from the RPM name, I'm assuming db1-compat
[04:14] <brass_> thanks for the past
[04:14] <brass_> paste
[04:18] <brass_> found it.  It's in Universe as libdb1-compat
[04:21] <brass_> :(
[04:22] <brass_> still complains about libdb.so.3 being missing.
[04:22] <brass_> currently running updatedb so I can 'locate' it.
[04:25] <brass_> ahh,  libdb-4.3.so is whats installed
[04:25] <brass_> hmm. there's a libdb.so.2 as well.
[04:26] <infinity> if it wants libdb.so.3, you want 'libdb3'
[04:27] <infinity> Also in universe.
[04:27] <brass_> ok
[04:33] <brass_> :(
[04:33] <brass_> still throwing fits because libdb3 didn't come with a libdb.so.3
[04:34] <brass_> so I'm thinking of trying a symlink from libdb.so.3 to libdb3.so.3
[04:37] <brass_> well, It might might be working now.
[04:38] <brass_> "/usr/lib/vmware-mui/apache/bin/httpd.vmware: /usr/lib/libdb.so.3: version `GLIBC_2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib/vmware-mui/apache/bin/httpd.vmware)   Starting httpd.vmware:  done"
[04:48] <infinity> Err, oh, wait.  You wanted libdb.so.3, not libdb3.so?  YAY CONFUSION. :)
[04:49] <infinity> apt-get --purge libdb3- libdb2
[04:49] <infinity> (That will remove libdb3, and install libdb2, which has an SOVER of 3... Confused yet?)
[04:49] <infinity> Berkeley DB is a mess.
[04:49] <infinity> (Upstream's fault, not ours)
[04:49] <brass_> ah..  Berkeley.
[04:50] <infinity> Err, I missed an "install" after the --purge. :)
[04:50] <brass_> k,   I was wondering why I wasn't familiar with these packages.
[04:50] <infinity> apt-get --purge install libdb3- libdb2
[04:53] <brass_> :)  yay.   no errors.
[04:57] <brass_> well, it seems to be working
[04:58] <brass_> I don't have a vm on the machine yet to test so further testing will have to wait till tomorrow.     :)   Thanks a lot for your help.    I never would have figured out libdb2
[04:54] <llamakc> during the install in text mode what's the install prompt to do a lamp install?
[05:18] <llamakc> in text mode what's the install prompt to do a lamp install?
[05:20] <gpd> if it isn't blindingly obvious then you probably have the wrong disk
[05:21] <gpd> apt-get install apache2  apache2-mpm-prefork libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server php5-mysql  php5-mysqli
[05:22] <gpd> that will do it once you install
[05:27] <llamakc> no, correct disk. but in text mode the 'install lamp server' option doesn't exist, which is why i am asking. i know how to install the ind. packages
[05:46] <Linuturk> is there an apt-get command for installing the LAMP components?
[05:47] <TheBigToe> how do I get apache2 to start on startup again?
[05:47] <TheBigToe> apache 1.3 started on startuo
[05:47] <TheBigToe> startup*
[05:48] <TheBigToe> but now I have to sudo apache2
[05:48] <gpd> install sysv-rc-conf
[05:48] <gpd> it has a simple interface
[05:48] <gpd> or you can hand edit the links in /etc/rc2.d
[05:49] <TheBigToe> thanks
[05:49] <Linuturk> should I just reinstall using the LAMP server menu?
[05:50] <gpd> apt-get install apache2  apache2-mpm-prefork libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server php5-mysql  php5-mysqli
[05:51] <Linuturk> thanks gpd
[05:53] <Linuturk> will these autoload on startup?
[05:54] <gpd> apache should start on boot yes
[05:54] <Linuturk> where are the Docs for these ?
[05:55] <gpd> apache2-doc
[05:57] <gpd> and /usr/share/doc/package [same as all debian docs] 
[09:34] <ransu> hello. question: how to change screen resolution in initial login TTY? is it a bootloader option or some config file somewhere ? aptitude is hard to use with just 25 lines per screen...
[09:44] <ransu> sorry. I understand this is development and not support group, but since there is no ubuntu-server-support group for people who actually want to learn linux, I don't know where else to go. All I want to know is which manual to read really...
[09:52] <spike> ransu: look into your bootloader options, vga parameter
[09:53] <ransu> thanks
[09:53] <spike> if you want bigger resolution look for framebuffer support
[09:53] <spike> ransu: thing is, such a question doesnt even belong to ubuntu-server-support
[09:54] <spike> it really belongs to #ubuntu and #ubuntu only, as for any "group of ppl who actually want to learn linux"
[09:54] <spike> -server edition isnt of course about that, even if it had a -support channel
[10:00] <ransu> well, the thing is, I read both the desktop and server version's online wiki documentations and it was obvious which one to choose if you really wanted to learn unix. the #ubuntu group has about thousend people asking how to get their ipod working with the GUI so I felt I wasn't getting anywhere there...
[10:55] <phpmattk_> Installed dapper, apt-get/synaptic says unable to dowload all repo indexes tried 4 or 5 of different sources.list files. http://rafb.net/paste/results/twIZhh87.html  (output of apt-get update).  Any ideas?
[10:58] <lionelp> hi phpmattk_
[10:58] <phpmattk_> lionelp.. hello
[10:59] <lionelp> This is definitely a #ubuntu question, not a server specific one :)
[10:59] <phpmattk_> i figured.. its so crowded in there though.. hehe
[11:00] <phpmattk_> so hey.. any suggestions for me since its so quiet in here anyways
[11:00] <lionelp> yes, my suggestions are on #ubuntu ;)
[11:01] <phpmattk_> lionelp: thx..