[12:04] <imbrandon> ljimmy, a blank dir on a ubuntu server with the apache2 default dir showing
[12:04] <serenity> iNiku: ok, thanks again
[12:05] <iNiku> serenity: you're welcome :)
[12:05] <ljimmy> imbrandon: is it like a filesystem looking thing?
[12:05] <serenity> bye all
[12:05] <ljimmy> i mean, something like that...
[12:05] <serenity> iNiku: bye
[12:06] <imbrandon> ljimmy, bacsicly it looks like you dont have an index.html file in /var/www ;)
[12:06] <ljimmy> imbrandon: so its got that little message saying that it works properly but i need to add content?
[12:06] <LinuxNewbie3> Anyone know a good Download Manager for Linux? 1 that can do 4 Connections onto the same site ?
[12:07] <imbrandon> ljimmy, no and yes ........ its working properly and no there is no message, i just know what a blank server looks like ;)
[12:07] <imbrandon> LinuxNewbie3, try google ;)
[12:07] <ljimmy> imbrandon: good enough, thanks bud
[12:07] <ljimmy> :)
[12:08] <LinuxNewbie3> I do not have time
[12:08] <LinuxNewbie3> I need to test my spee
[12:08] <LinuxNewbie3> speed
[12:08] <imbrandon> www.speedtest.com
[12:08] <linuxmonkey> ok im usually fairly good on figuring this stuff out however when I try to play mp3's and other audio amarok is the default, is there a easy way of changing this without removing amarok?
[12:08] <ports> hrm
[12:09] <simp> sorry about leaving so suddenly before
[12:09] <imbrandon> linuxmonkey, looks at the options when you right click the file in konq, you should be able to set the default app
[12:09] <simp> my pc is a little bit wierd
[12:09] <simp> right now
[12:09] <iNiku> LinuxNewbie3: why do you need a download manager?
[12:09] <iNiku> I never understood the point with those
[12:10] <LinuxNewbie3> Nevermind nevermind
[12:10] <XVampireX> iNiku: Faster downloads sometimes
[12:10] <imbrandon> iNiku, me either ;)
[12:10] <simp> i didn't just add kde because the gnome was the old version and i fu*ked up the grub anyway
[12:10] <ports> iNiku just keeps things organized
[12:10] <XVampireX> but firefox/opera got nice download managers
[12:10] <simp> point of download manager is: it is organized and it is faster as well;)
[12:10] <XVampireX> and download managers allow to resume downloads
[12:10] <simp> opera allows to resume as well ;)
[12:10] <linuxmonkey> imbrandon i have allready said for it to use xmms but it wont
[12:10] <LinuxNewbie3> That and so I can resume later on if I need to
[12:10] <simp> if it isn't rapidshare or places like that
[12:11] <imbrandon> XVampireX, the server allows resumed downloads the dl manager just takes advantage of it ;)
[12:11] <XVampireX> Can I downgrade ffmpeg? I need it for stepmania
[12:11] <XVampireX> Yeah
[12:11] <iNiku> XVampireX: how can a download manager give you faster downloads?
[12:11] <LinuxNewbie3> I do not need it right now thought. I remembered my ISPs URL to their tester. I needed otmake sure I wasnt having speed problems
[12:11] <simp> iNiku: ot
[12:11] <simp> iNiku: it opens up more slots for you
[12:11] <XVampireX> iNiku: Splitting the file and downloading them from multiple sources
[12:11] <simp> so it comes faster
[12:11] <LinuxNewbie3> 1 anonying thign with Firefox-Linux is the buttons are switched around
[12:11] <equinoxeB> INiku: test Internet Download Manager on Windows... and you'll understand what speed means
[12:12] <LinuxNewbie3> I keep pressing CANCEL without noticing it
[12:12] <simp> i use free download manager on windows and usualy the speed is 50kb/s faster ;)
[12:12] <iNiku> XVampireX: well, if you're downloading from a web site, how can you download from multiple sources? torrents or something are a different thing, of course
[12:12] <LinuxNewbie3> I got to install Plugins for Firefox now
[12:12] <iNiku> equinoxeB: I don't use windows
[12:12] <equinoxeB> I did :P
[12:12] <iNiku> simp: yes, it's ot :)
[12:12] <LinuxNewbie3> How can I check hwo much HDD space I got left? also can I use the built in backup to backup onto the same HDD ?
[12:13] <simp> no i sayd a wrong thing
[12:13] <XVampireX> iNiku: Start using download managers and you'll understand
[12:13] <simp> didn't mean to say ot :D
[12:13] <linuxmonkey> imbrandon any other ideas, cause I thought it would work like that too
[12:13] <equinoxeB> but there's a real lack of software for speeding the downloads onlinux
[12:13] <iNiku> simp: are you sure your download manager isn't just reporting the speed wrong?
[12:13] <ljimmy> could someone pls visit http://www.jwillows.com and tell me what you see
[12:13] <imbrandon> linuxmonkey, no, thats how i set it most of the time, hmm lemme do some looking
[12:13] <ljimmy> again...
[12:13] <equinoxeB> no... it is really faster
[12:13] <simp> iniku the download manager acts like it has downloaded 50% in one slot and acts like it has downloaded 60% in another slot and downloads those two at the same time
[12:13] <ports> equinoxeB its called a decent connection
[12:13] <LinuxNewbie3> We are unable to locate a single Web player that best matches your platform and operating system. Please visit our  table of recommended Web players. .
[12:13] <LinuxNewbie3> lol
[12:13] <simp> so it's a little bit faster
[12:14] <LinuxNewbie3> No shockwave for Linux ?
[12:14] <simp> yes i am sure iNiku i downloaded ubuntu with 40minutes faster with the download manager
[12:14] <simp> !shockwave
[12:14] <equinoxeB> I tryed to download today the Kubuntu iso with Download Manager and I got a speed of... 350 -400 Kb...
[12:14] <ubotu> Unfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!
[12:14] <XVampireX> LinuxNewbie3: Not for now
[12:14] <iNiku> simp: why would it be faster? the network connection is going to be the limiting factor
[12:14] <equinoxeB> I rebooted on Windows
[12:14] <linuxmonkey> imbrandon i think i got it
[12:14] <ports> equinoxeB how long did it take you to download it
[12:14] <LinuxNewbie3> Download Manager which oen ?
[12:14] <equinoxeB> I got 3 Mb/s with IDM
[12:14] <LinuxNewbie3> Internet Download Manager ?
[12:15] <equinoxeB> IDM on Win/ DM4X on Linux
[12:15] <iNiku> simp: I don't see how you could get around that by splitting the file up and downloading in parallel over the same connection from the same source
[12:15] <imbrandon> please take non support conversations to #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:15] <simp> iniku yes it will limit on some point but you can allways go over that limit a little bit ;)
[12:15] <XVampireX> Yeah
[12:15] <ports> iNiku  the program starts different sessions
[12:15] <iNiku> but, yeah, it's off topic. anyway, firefox and opera have built-in download managers, although they don't use hacks like that as far as I know
[12:15] <ports> iNiku only thing is..if he has dialup.. its rather worthless
[12:16] <imbrandon> please take non support conversations to #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:16] <Bilford> tj9991, did you install Kubuntu yet
[12:16] <LinuxNewbie3> I love the * in Konsole saves time :D
[12:16] <simp> the last thing i'l say about this topic is that firefox and opera just show what you have downloaded ;)
[12:16] <mike__> sorry to interrupt, but does anyone have time to help someone new to kubuntu and linux
[12:16] <simp> ofcourse;)
[12:16] <ports> mike__ ask a real question
[12:16] <ljimmy> mike just ask ur questions
[12:16] <mike__> thank you soo much
[12:16] <imbrandon> mike__, sure
[12:16] <XVampireX> LinuxNewbie3: That exists in windows too
[12:16] <IGD> I just installed kubuntu, i want to use firefox and in adept it says its installed but i dont know where to launch it from, or how to put it into my k menu under internet. Anyone help me?
[12:17] <imbrandon> IGD, its in k --> internet --> firefox
[12:17] <mike__> i feel stupid but i cannot not for the life of me figure out how to install any application i download,,,
[12:17] <Xymor> open a terminal and type "firefox"
[12:17] <linuxmonkey> imbrandon had to go to the configure konqueror in the menu's and then file association and then audio and x-mp3 and move xmms to the top of the list
[12:17] <mike__> even following the instructions
[12:17] <imbrandon> mike__, you use apt-get to install applications in ubuntu
[12:18] <mike__> but how
[12:18] <troy> so close to getting this working, it's disappointing me... I'm missing 2! 32bit libs... libXft and libXcursor...
[12:18] <simp> terminal
[12:18] <imbrandon> linuxmonkey, ahh
[12:18] <IGD> imbrandon: its not on mine
[12:18] <troy> is there a channel for *ubuntu64 ?
[12:18] <simp> mike__:  main menu-system-Konsole
[12:18] <simp> there is the terminal
[12:18] <simp> ;)
[12:18] <imbrandon> IDG, log out of kde and log back in and see if it appears
[12:18] <flo> imbrandon: not alwais aplication show in menu right after instalation, i sometimes need to restart x
[12:18] <mike__> even what you just wrote is very hard for me to understand lol...
[12:18] <simp> there you have to write apt-get the thigy
[12:19] <linuxmonkey> imbrandon i think that mike__ is installing apps from the reposotories
[12:19] <linuxmonkey> not*
[12:19] <mike__> i'm trying to learn all this terminology on the fly
[12:19] <simp> mike__: write /join #something
[12:19] <imbrandon> mike__, what are you trying to install ?
[12:19] <simp> in the chat
[12:19] <simp> firefox
[12:19] <Bilford> tj9991, did your storage problem magically fix itself by waiting 2 more weeks
[12:19] <tj9991> yes
[12:19] <tj9991> no
[12:20] <mike__> well for one i downloaded firefox and tried to install the package
[12:20] <tj9991> im learning a new f2l method, im slow at it now but it will let me get past the minute average barrier
[12:20] <mike__> couldn't get it to work
[12:20] <simp> is it .exe ?
[12:20] <IGD> imbrandon: nope no dice. in adept its greyed out but shows as installed. and when i type firefox in konsole i get command not found
[12:20] <LinuxNewbie3> Man I hate been a newbie :(
[12:20] <imbrandon> mike__, you can install fire fox by typing "sudo apt-get install firefox" in a terminal
[12:20] <imbrandon> without the quotes
[12:20] <imbrandon> you dont have to download anything
[12:20] <mike__> and thats after i download the package?
[12:20] <imbrandon> seperately
[12:20] <mike__> or before
[12:21] <linuxmonkey> imbrandon quick question, can you play mp3's or other music files from a data CD? If so what you do cause it wont play for me unless i copy them to the HDD
[12:21] <imbrandon> you dont have to download anything seperately
[12:21] <Bilford> tj9991, for offtopic discussions, please visit Boringville on QUakeNet
[12:21] <imbrandon> mike__, that will get it from the internet for you and install it
[12:21] <mike__> gotcha, it's kinda like a search that finds it for me and installs it?
[12:21] <simp> you just wirte sudo apt-get install firefox in konsole
[12:21] <linuxmonkey> mike__: that command will automatically download and install it for you
[12:21] <flo> mike_: or u can alwais use adept, graphical mode , eseier for newcommers
[12:21] <simp> yes mike__
[12:21] <mike__> but if i have do download a package file?
[12:22] <simp> then you write sudo run /home/etc... wasn't it?
[12:22] <Bilford> mike__, why are you downloading Firefox?  it's included in Dapper
[12:22] <imbrandon> mike__, there are 18000+ packages it will get for you, rarely do you have to get something seperate
[12:22] <Bilford> yes, most programs are already 'included'
[12:22] <chx> hi. I am looking for a Torrent client which is able to 'cherry pick' invidual files out of a torrent. Azureus can. But that also can eat every resource known to man :)
[12:22] <mike__> wow..i didn't realize that
[12:22] <Bilford> chx, KTorrent
[12:22] <troy> anyone here a packager or knows anything about the .deb format I can /query?
[12:22] <chx> really??
[12:22] <linuxmonkey> mike__: there shouldnt be a need to cause most stuff is in the repos and you can install it from a simple command or by using adept
[12:23] <mike__> i thought i saw it there but i couldn't find it when i was looking
[12:23] <chx> last I checked KTorrent was a very primitive beast.
[12:23] <simp> what was the command for setting the root password in terminal again?
[12:23] <Bilford> chx, yes, as soon as you add new torrent, it asks you which files you want to download in it
[12:23] <imbrandon> mike__, run adept ( from your "start" menu it will let you get diffrent programs from the internet and install them easy
[12:23] <linuxmonkey> imbrandon you see my question above
[12:23] <imbrandon> simp, dont set a root passwd in ubuntu
[12:23] <mike__> let me try some of this real quick...
[12:24] <simp> imbrandon why not?
[12:24] <chx> w00t
[12:24] <chx> ktorrent looks good
[12:24] <systest> Is there a FAQ for Red Hat/Fedora users moving to kubuntu?
[12:24] <imbrandon> simp ubuntu wasent designed to use root, infact it was designed NOT to
[12:24] <simp> i need the console(ctrl+alt+F1)
[12:24] <simp> the console there is important for me atleast
[12:24] <mike__> alright here's another question...i downloaded Java through the firefox plug-in section and it saved it as a .bin terminal file....what do i do with that?
[12:25] <imbrandon> simp, so hit ctl+alt+f1 then login as a your normal user and type "sudo su -"
[12:25] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:25] <simp> oh :)
[12:25] <systest> simp: then do "passwd root" :)
[12:25] <imbrandon> systest, DONT DO THAT
[12:25] <simp> actualy it doesn't matter now :P
[12:25] <imbrandon> it WILL mess up your system
[12:25] <simp> atleast i know how to use it there :)
[12:26] <iNiku> imbrandon: it will not mess up anything
[12:26] <simp> i use to have root in gnome ;)
[12:26] <imbrandon> !root
[12:26] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:26] <azathoth> anyone had any problems with ktorrent 2.0b1 not installing under kde 3.5.3?
[12:26] <iNiku> imbrandon: and despite what ubuntu thinks, it can be a good idea to have a root password.
[12:26] <imbrandon> iNiku, eventualy it will
[12:26] <iNiku> imbrandon: why would it?
[12:26] <iNiku> imbrandon: please explain.
[12:26] <imbrandon> iNiku, nopt with sudo enabled
[12:26] <imbrandon> readup on it
[12:26] <LinuxNewbie3> Damn I cant install Flash player
[12:27] <LinuxNewbie3> I have no idea where firefox plugins fodler is suppose to be
[12:27] <LinuxNewbie3> lol
[12:27] <imbrandon> LinuxNewbie3, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:27] <linuxmonkey> mike__: follow the steps on that page that ubotu just msg'ed ya to install java and other stuff you'll probably ask about
[12:27] <simp> LinuxNewbie3: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayerStandalone?highlight=%28player%29%7C%28flash%29
[12:27] <LinuxNewbie3> I got it, I know hwo to install it
[12:27] <systest> is there a "chkconfig" equivalent in kubuntu?
[12:27] <LinuxNewbie3> I just need to know WHERE
[12:27] <iNiku> imbrandon: I know the ubuntu policy is to use sudo instead of logging in as root, but giving root a password will definitely not screw up anything
[12:27] <neoXite> does the mozilla-acroread plugin work for anyone in dpper?
[12:27] <neoXite> *dapper
[12:27] <iNiku> imbrandon: and it may come in useful sometimes.
[12:27] <james_xxx> has anyone figured out a fix for the bug with screen savers not working in KDE 3.5.3?
[12:28] <mike__> gotcha i'll try it out
[12:28] <imbrandon> iNiku, well this room follows ubuntu CoC and policy ;)
[12:28] <ubuntu> Hi
[12:28] <ubuntu> :-(
[12:28] <LinuxNewbie3> Foudn it :D
[12:28] <tuxedup> was hoping someone could help, i have kmess installed but file transfer doesnt seme to work, i have enabled the ports in guarddog and have enabled the ports on my hardware firewall, yet it still says it cannot make a connection when trying to send a file, however I can recieve files no problem.  Does anyone have any ideas what else need sto be done, are thee other ports that need to be enabled.
[12:28] <iNiku> imbrandon: sure, but please don't claim it will break something when it won't
[12:28] <ubuntu> Can someone help me?
[12:28] <LinuxNewbie3> opt/firefox :D
[12:28] <linuxmonkey> iNiku: especially if you install webmin
[12:28] <imbrandon> iNiku, it can and has and will
[12:28] <simp> ubuntu what's the problem?
[12:29] <ubuntu> I downloaded the kubuntu drake
[12:29] <ubuntu> today
[12:29] <imbrandon> linuxmonkey, i have webmin running fine with no root account
[12:29] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:29] <ubuntu> I try to install it
[12:29] <ubuntu> but at last
[12:29] <linuxmonkey> lol ya imbrandon but you didnt use apt-get to install it then
[12:29] <ubuntu> it say that cannot install some packages.
[12:29] <ubuntu> :-(
[12:29] <azathoth> i'm still getting this error when i try to upgrade ktorrent 2.0 when i'm in kde 3.5.3... anyone know what could cause this (i have no desktop icons): dpkg: error processing ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb (--install):
[12:29] <azathoth>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package kdelibs-data
[12:29] <imbrandon> linuxmonkey, sure did
[12:29] <simp> test the CD for defects
[12:30] <simp> ubuntu: test the CD for defects*
[12:30] <ubuntu> Look
[12:30] <ubuntu> I insert my kubuntu CD
[12:30] <linuxmonkey> imbrandon I say that cause last time I installed it, it used root info as its user when it installed so I couldnt log in
[12:30] <Bilford> azathoth, is KTorrent running while youre doing this
[12:30] <ubuntu> It start
[12:30] <imbrandon> azathoth, looks like a bad download , try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:30] <ubuntu> It work
[12:30] <azathoth> Bilford, no it isn't
[12:30] <ubuntu> very well
[12:30] <simp> when booting from HD ubuntu?
[12:31] <ubuntu> no
[12:31] <ubuntu> from cd
[12:31] <azathoth> imbrandon, okay cool, will check it... but i'm pretty sure this isn't a bad download
[12:31] <ubuntu> kde start
[12:31] <ubuntu> all works very well
[12:31] <simp> then there is propably a defect on the CD, try the test CD option from the main CD boot ubuntu
[12:31] <simp> oh
[12:31] <simp> kde start
[12:31] <azathoth> i did the configure, nothing happened and it still won't install... i'll try grabbing the deb again
[12:32] <mike__> Possibly a stupid question, but whats a reccomendation on internet security and antivirus with kubuntu
[12:32] <mike__> or linux in general, do we need it?
[12:32] <simp> if you aren't stupid yourself you dont ;)
[12:32] <LinuxNewbie3> What does the Kubuntu Firewall do ?
[12:32] <ubuntu> then I double click on "Install" icon on the Desktiop
[12:32] <iNiku> imbrandon: what do you do if you screw up the login scripts for your normal user so you cannot log in?
[12:32] <imbrandon> mike__, no real need for antivirus but of you want install klamav
[12:32] <LinuxNewbie3> and what is the name of the GUI for it ?
[12:32] <ubuntu> and all work
[12:32] <simp> yes and then?
[12:32] <imbrandon> iNiku, you boot from a livecd and chroot ;)
[12:32] <ubuntu> then it downloaded something
[12:32] <jbirdAngel> hello im justed installed kubuntu and i have two questions, one is that during installation it failed doing security updates, this is fine right as it just couldnt get online? the second question is that im trying to set up  the wilrelss to work, and im not sure what to do i have it set on all the same settings as my router the same chanel same open system, the same WEP , i have it on DHCP...
[12:32] <jbirdAngel> ...as opposed to manual which i think is right, but i dont really know, but as far as i know its set up right but it wont connect?
[12:33] <simp> yes ? ubuntu?
[12:33] <iNiku> imbrandon: sooo much easier to just log in as root to fix it :)
[12:33] <ubuntu> and become problems with Python 23
[12:33] <Bilford> it's busy in here today.  I guess a lot of people are trying out Kubuntu on the weekend
[12:33] <mike__> thank you
[12:33] <iNiku> imbrandon: what if you have filesystem damage so the system will require you to run fsck manually before you can boot up? you need the root password to be able to do that
[12:33] <imbrandon> iNiku, please take this to #kubuntu-offtopic , point is this ubuntu recomends NOT to do so and this room follows ubuntu policy and CoC
[12:34] <imbrandon> iNiku, then you boot into single user mode
[12:34] <simp> i'm afraid the CD has a defect sorry ubuntu,
[12:34] <ubuntu> Ok
[12:34] <ubuntu> I restart
[12:34] <simp> and it is better to use the other version
[12:34] <ubuntu> and I will start the Test
[12:34] <simp> not the desktop, mine hang when booting
[12:34] <jbirdAngel> also it says firefox is installed but firefox doesnt appear in the menu under internet?
[12:34] <simp> ubuntu: do that ;)
[12:34] <iNiku> imbrandon: I don't think this is off topic. someone asked how to set a root password, you told them not to, I'm saying there are cases when it's good to have one
[12:34] <ubuntu> see you soon----
[12:34] <ubuntu> ;-)
[12:34] <linuxmonkey> imbrandon quick question, can you play mp3's or other music files from a data CD? If so what you do cause it wont play for me unless i copy them to the HDD
[12:34] <troy> hey, is the .deb file just a tgz file which contains certain specific files?
[12:35] <azathoth> imbrandon, re-downloaded the deb and tried again... still no joy
[12:35] <crimsun> iNiku: by default it will not prompt for a root password.
[12:35] <imbrandon> iNiku, it is offtopic considering this is a support channel and we are not talking support
[12:35] <simp> no troy it is a file that is like .exe and install file
[12:35] <iNiku> crimsun: it won't? okay.
[12:35] <iNiku> crimsun: I know that's configurable and if it's set up like that in ubuntu, then that's fine
[12:35] <imbrandon> azathoth, file a bug then would probbly be the best thing, but it will be a while probbly considering neither are default dapper
[12:35] <linuxmonkey> wassup crimsun :)
[12:36] <crimsun> iNiku: besides, even if you did set a root password, you can easily bypass that with init=/bin/sh . Physical access virtually eliminates all security measures.
[12:36] <azathoth> yeah, i was checking the forums, encountered no similar problem there...
[12:36] <iNiku> crimsun: that's true, but my point is that it can be good to have a root password set, ubuntu policies notwithstanding
[12:37] <iNiku> crimsun: although I do agree with the recommendation to use sudo for normal root access.
[12:37] <imbrandon> linuxmonkey, hmmm never tried to play them off a cd but i play them off network shares just fine
[12:38] <linuxmonkey> crimsun: have you ever heard of trying to play music off a cd but not playing and then if you copy to the hdd they will play just fine?
[12:38] <simp> and i have a problem again :)... in konversation some letters are not right... they are right in firefox/kopete/etc... but here in konversation they aren't(well actualy i can see them as they are suposed to be, but people from mirc and other clients can't(not sure other konversation users can)) well does anyone know a way to get over this problem? that's how they should/should not look(depends on your client): 
[12:38] <iNiku> linuxmonkey: how are you playing from cd?
[12:38] <linuxmonkey> same here imbrandon, i just tried off a cd like 20 to 30 minutes ago and it wont let me
[12:38] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: yes, but that shouldn't be an issue if you're using digital audio extraction for the cd player
[12:38] <linuxmonkey> iNiku: music files off a data cd
[12:39] <iNiku> linuxmonkey: oh, no idea then
[12:39] <crimsun> err, so not redbook audio? interesting.
[12:39] <crimsun> that seems a bit odd
[12:39] <iNiku> linuxmonkey: I thought you meant an audio cd
[12:39] <crimsun> can you reproduce it using aplay?
[12:39] <linuxmonkey> crimsun:  would that help even if its a data cd?
[12:39] <mike__> imbrandon__, when i open adept and type in klamav it doesn't find anythng, should i be doing something different?
[12:40] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: well if it's a data cd, it's mounted, and you can open a Konsole and access it
[12:40] <imbrandon> mike__, did you enable universe and multivers repos yet ?
[12:40] <mike__> whoaaaaa....what?
[12:40] <mike__> lol
[12:40] <imbrandon> hehe follow this link from the bot
[12:40] <imbrandon> !repos
[12:40] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:40] <linuxmonkey> crimsun:yes it doesnt matter what app I use it loads and fails to play
[12:40] <iNiku> linuxmonkey: how does it fail?
[12:41] <iNiku> do you get an error message?
[12:41] <linuxmonkey> no play - no error message
[12:41] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: I need the debug spew from the cli app{,s}, then
[12:43] <jbirdAngel> i couldnt get security updats during install, but thats fine cuz its just aht it couldnt get online right?
[12:44] <linuxmonkey> ok now this is odd now i cant access my cd drive
[12:45] <Rutger546> anyone having a problem where launching compiz results in a white screen with only your mouse cursor?
[12:45] <linuxmonkey> it shows on my desktop and disapears right away
[12:46] <howard> hi, I tried upgrading to dapper, but now my desktop won't boot
[12:47] <howard> it hangs at "starting PCMCIA services"
[12:47] <LinuxNewbie3> Linux version of Media Player Classic ? Or can Kaffine play XviD etc files ?
[12:47] <LinuxNewbie3> and FFDShow ?
[12:47] <howard> saying things like "Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found"
[12:47] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie3: kaffeine can
[12:48] <Bilford> I believe you need   sudo apt-get libxine-extracodecs for xvid
[12:48] <McScruff> LinuxNewbie3: its all to do with getting the codecs, check the wiki
[12:48] <LinuxNewbie3> I do not like Kaffine layout etc etc its okay for my DVD. But i need MPC
[12:49] <Bilford> LinuxNewbie3, everything is configurable in LInux
[12:49] <skiy> Hello folks, I have a strange problem with Amarok 1.4. It says "xine was unable to initialise any audio-drivers."
[12:49] <imbrandon> LinuxNewbie3, kaffeine will play xvid with the propper codecs
[12:49] <linuxmonkey> ok im back I fixed my cd problem
[12:49] <skiy> I have googled about for this problem, but couldn't see a solution..
[12:49] <Bilford> skiy, mp3?
[12:49] <skiy> Bilford, nope
[12:50] <skiy> Bilford, happens if you try to select "xine-engine" from the preferences
[12:50] <Bilford> idk
[12:50] <linuxmonkey> crimsun: how do I get the debug info from the application?
[12:50] <skiy> I'm sorry I don't understand what idk is / does ?
[12:51] <Bilford> it means I dont know
[12:51] <azathoth> imbrandon, i installed ktorrent, i had to extract it to a dir and do a 'sudo cp /r usr/ /' and it worked
[12:51] <azathoth> -r, i meant
[12:51] <neko> before updating to dapper, I could open an avi from desktop 2, switch to desktop 1, and once the player program finished opening it would open the window in the current desktop (1) - now it's insisting on opening the window in the originating desktop (2). any ideas on how to change it back?
[12:51] <simp> Kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake)
[12:51] <simp> Use your favorite package manager to install
[12:51] <simp> libxine-extracodecs
[12:51] <simp> well there is a problem with that... that command doesn't work in terminalt it says command not found
[12:51] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: just go to Konsole, change directory to your data, and attempt to play the wavs
[12:51] <McScruff> simp: you need to enable multivers repo
[12:52] <_can_> register asterix
[12:52] <Bilford> simp, enable multiverse, then in console:   sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[12:52] <iNiku> simp: what command are you using?
[12:52] <imbrandon> simp, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[12:52] <simp> i did enable multiverse
[12:52] <simp> ok
[12:52] <McScruff> lo again iNiku
[12:52] <linuxmonkey> crimsun:  I did that and I dont get any errors or anything , it opens the app, queues up the song and wont play it
[12:53] <iNiku> hey, McScruff
[12:53] <simp> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:53] <simp> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:53] <simp> is only available from another source
[12:53] <simp> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[12:53] <simp> does that mean that i don't have multiverse?
[12:53] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: using aplay?
[12:53] <iNiku> simp: did you apt-get update after adding multiverse?
[12:53] <crimsun> simp: it means you don't have multiverse enabled
[12:53] <linuxmonkey> it launches xmms as my default player
[12:54] <simp> iNiku: i didn't do that thank you
[12:54] <Bilford> linuxmonkey, go to the Properties, and remove anything after xmms
[12:54] <jbirdAngel> can someone help me to get my wireless to work? as fara s i know i have all the information right but it wont connect?
[12:54] <Bilford> linuxmonkey, or add %u
[12:54] <Bilford> I forget which
[12:54] <linuxmonkey> Bilford: what were?
[12:55] <Bilford> linuxmonkey, instead of playing, its opening that Playlist Broswer window, right
[12:55] <yogi> jbirdAngel:What wireless card?
[12:55] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: which wireless card?
[12:55] <imbrandon> no he dosent want xxms as the default player
[12:55] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: and are you using network manager or not?
[12:56] <Bilford> It's hard to help people, since you dont know if theyre new or experienced
[12:56] <yogi>  Bilford:Got that right...
[12:56] <linuxmonkey> Bilford:  no it opens xmms but fails to play the song and the song shows up as the curent song in the ticker window
[12:56] <jbirdAngel> i dont know what network manager is, i was trying to use wireless lan manager, im not sure what the wirelss card is it came with my hp pavilion dv1000 notebook, but it worked with suse, so it must be able to work
[12:56] <howard> does anyone know how to disable pcmcia at boot?
[12:57] <Bilford> linuxmonkey, but it plays after pressing Play?
[12:57] <yogi> jbirdAngel:If it's HP, bets are the card is Broadcom.
[12:58] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: okay, can you run lspci -v in a console and look for ethernet controllers there?
[12:58] <yogi> jbirdAngel:Got mine working using fwcutter.
[12:58] <jbirdAngel> yogi: i dont know what that is
[12:58] <linuxmonkey> Bilford: just sent ya a message with my exact problem
[12:58] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: i just type that into konsole
[12:58] <jbirdAngel> ?
[12:58] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: yep
[12:58] <iNiku> it will show info about your pci devices, including the wireless card
[12:59] <simp> well now i did the apt-get update actualy because this didnt work i did sudo apt-get update, but still the extracodecs doesn't work i did remove the #-s in the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:59] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: see any ethernet controllers listed?
[12:59] <jbirdAngel> okay
[12:59] <jbirdAngel> ya
[01:00] <jbirdAngel> yo8u want me to type all it says about it to you or?
[01:00] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: just what type of ethernet controllers it finds
[01:00] <troy> OH YEAH baby!
[01:00] <jbirdAngel> realtek semiconductor co.?
[01:00] <iNiku> does it say Broadcom 43something?
[01:01] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: that's probably your wired ethernet
[01:01] <jbirdAngel> okay do you want the network controller then which is intel corporation pro/wireless 2200 btg?
[01:01] <simp> !tell simp about paste
[01:01] <troy> just got 32bit flash working in konqueror without 32bit chroot...
[01:01] <jbirdAngel> no t
[01:01] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: actually, do you have a network connection on the laptop now?
[01:01] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: not sure what that means, i couldnt connect to the router tho
[01:01] <jbirdAngel> if that answers the question
[01:01] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: ahh, the intel is the one
[01:02] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: type iwconfig and see what it says about eth1
[01:02] <mike__> wow...that universe and multiverse thing made a hugeee deal..thanks
[01:02] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: it should show one interface with IEEE 802.11g
[01:03] <simp> that's what my sources.list looks like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15043 the part of the universe repository... is that supposed to be like that?(that means did i change the right thing?
[01:03] <mike__> i am going to live in this kubuntu channel, haha
[01:03] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: you're in luck, your wireless card is one of the best supported ones available
[01:03] <jbirdAngel> as far as i know that is correct, eth0 syas no wireless extiensions eth1 IEEE 802.11g ESSID: "NETGEAR" Mode managed freq etc etc
[01:03] <mike__> i would be toast without any of this help...
[01:04] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: okay, then your drivers should be all set. do you use encryption on the network?
[01:04] <iNiku> wep or wpa?
[01:04] <jbirdAngel> i thought it ried ubuntu before and it got the card to work rightaway
[01:04] <jbirdAngel> someone in one of these chats helped me set up wep recently, and i have that key typed in to the iwireless lan manger but still didnt connect
[01:04] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: oh, just to make sure, type 'lsmod | grep ndis' in the console and see if that says anything
[01:04] <jbirdAngel> i checked to make sure the key was right
[01:04] <iNiku> without the quotes
[01:05] <simp> well now i did the apt-get update actualy because this didnt work i did sudo apt-get update, but still the extracodecs doesn't work i did remove the #-s in the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:05] <simp> that's what my sources.list looks like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15043 the part of the universe repository... is that supposed to be like that?(that means did i change the right thing?
[01:05] <jbirdAngel> should there be spaces between the | and the others
[01:05] <jbirdAngel> i dont get anything either way
[01:05] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: yes, exactly as I wrote, just without the quotes
[01:05] <iNiku> that's good.
[01:06] <iNiku> (oh, those spaces, they don't make a difference)
[01:06] <jbirdAngel> okay thanks
[01:06] <simp> jbirdAngel: i actualy think wep is not too good... i personaly use psk-tkip ;)
[01:06] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: so... you're sure the ssid and wep key are correct?
[01:06] <jbirdAngel> i dont know anything about it just went with what the person told me to do
[01:06] <jbirdAngel> i dont know what ssid is
[01:06] <simp> :)
[01:06] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: it's the network name
[01:07] <jbirdAngel> okay as far as i iknow its correct
[01:07] <iNiku> and yes, wpa would be better than wep if your access point/router supports it
[01:07] <iNiku> and your other wireless hardware, if you have any
[01:07] <jbirdAngel> i think it does but im not sure
[01:07] <iNiku> but wep is better than nothing.
[01:07] <jbirdAngel> ok
[01:07] <simp> iNiku: does linux support wpa?
[01:07] <iNiku> simp: yes
[01:08] <iNiku> simp: that's what you're using
[01:08] <simp> ok
[01:08] <iNiku> WPA-PSK/TKIP
[01:08] <simp> well right now i'm behind a cable
[01:08] <simp> :)
[01:08] <iNiku> simp: okay, I thought you said you use that :)
[01:08] <simp> well now i did the apt-get update actualy because this didnt work i did sudo apt-get update, but still the extracodecs doesn't work i did remove the #-s in the file /etc/apt/sources.list that's what my sources.list looks like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15043 the part of the universe repository... is that supposed to be like that?(that means did i change the right thing?
[01:08] <iNiku> anyway, I'm running WPA2-PSK/AES here
[01:08] <simp> well my other computers do that
[01:08] <LinuxNewbie3> I opened IE :D
[01:09] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: so shoudl i be doing that first or figure out why it wont connect?
[01:09] <simp> but right now i had no time to set up wireless connection in linux
[01:09] <LinuxNewbie3> How can i get mIRC working ? but with my installation fodler which contains a lot fo thigns ?
[01:09] <simp> in windows?
[01:09] <simp> or linux?
[01:09] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: first of all you need to make sure you have the ssid and wep key right as they are both required to get a connection
[01:09] <jbirdAngel> i think it worked without me doing anything when i tried a little while back
[01:09] <iNiku> simp?
[01:09] <simp> yes?
[01:09] <iNiku> in windows what?
[01:09] <simp> mIRC
[01:10] <iNiku> ah :)
[01:10] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: well it got the netwoerk name itself from the router i guess, and the wep i checked to make sure its right
[01:10] <linuxmonkey> simp... ewwwwwwwwwww mirc...ewwwwwww
[01:10] <simp> LinuxNewbie3: asked ;)
[01:10] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: it may have worked without you doing anything if you didn't have wep enabled then
[01:10] <jbirdAngel> is using the wireless lan assistant the thing iw ant to be using
[01:10] <jbirdAngel> oh okay cuz ya i didnt have wep then
[01:10] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: you might want to use network manager, it's pretty slick when it works
[01:11] <jbirdAngel> also is there a way for it to not ask me for a password on all teh variou sprograms?
[01:11] <Bilford> MIRC works fine in  Wine
[01:11] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: is that something i have?
[01:11] <Bilford> but have you tried Konversation?
[01:11] <Bilford> I use Konversation now
[01:11] <linuxmonkey> Bilford: ya but with that you bring yourself a bag full of holes
[01:11] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: it's not installed by default but if you can get a wired net connection, sudo apt-get install network-manager-<gnome or kde, depending on which you use> should do the trick
[01:11] <linuxmonkey> i use konversation as well
[01:11] <simp> does linksys wireless-G 2,4ghz 802,11g need any other drivers in kubuntu-dapper?
[01:12] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: okay should i try that or can we get wireless lan manager to work
[01:12] <jbirdAngel> also when it asks for my password how do i sudo it
[01:12] <jbirdAngel> cuz it said my password wasnt rightr or something
[01:12] <Bilford> I dont do any IRC scripting though
[01:12] <jbirdAngel> in the password i type sudo then my password?
[01:12] <mcrandello> yes
[01:13] <simp> well Bilford mirc is good if you have personalised it ;)
[01:13] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: well, I've never used the wireless lan manager, not sure how it works
[01:13] <mcrandello> wait no sorry
[01:13] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: I would suggest network manager
[01:13] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: okay adn i guess im online, though not sure when or how it diid it as when i tried it said that it failed connecting
[01:14] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: hmm, you are?
[01:14] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: i went to google.com
[01:14] <iNiku> over the wireless?
[01:14] <jbirdAngel> ya cuz im not plugged in, and when i went into teh wirelss assistant and clicked on netgear it said i am about to disconnect so thats hwy i tried google
[01:14] <jbirdAngel> but it told me it failed and so id ont know when it did connect
[01:15] <iNiku> okay, sounds like it's working then :)  I would still suggest that you get network manager, it makes things really easy
[01:15] <jbirdAngel> well i just disconnected and succeessfully connected so i guess it wroked
[01:15] <LinuxNewbie3> IE K Menu made :D i might need to use sometimes.
[01:15] <jbirdAngel> ill dot hat then
[01:15] <simp> does linksys wireless-G 2,4ghz 802,11g need any other drivers in kubuntu-dapper?
[01:15] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: are you on gnome or kde?
[01:15] <jbirdAngel> do you know why Adept says i have firefox and thunderbird instlaled but it doesnt appear in my menu?
[01:15] <jbirdAngel> kde
[01:15] <mcrandello> anyone having problems with fglrx killing usb on their laptops or is it just me?
[01:15] <iNiku> ah sorry, we're on #kubuntu so of course kde :)
[01:16] <jbirdAngel> its okay
[01:16] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: sudo apt-get install network-manager-kde
[01:16] <jbirdAngel> im in ubuntu to and asked some of these questions so i could have been here under gnome too
[01:16] <jbirdAngel> so i dont use adept for that?
[01:16] <iNiku> well, you can if you like
[01:16] <LinuxNewbie3> Where can I get the IE LOGO ?
[01:16] <henning> jbird did u restart the session?
[01:17] <jbirdAngel> Reading package lists... done , building dependency tree... done E: couldnt find pagackage netwoerk-manager-kde
[01:17] <jbirdAngel> henning: i dont think so
[01:17] <henning> firefox and thunderbird did not appear for me, too, i restarted the session and there they were
[01:17] <jbirdAngel> henning: oh okay thanks ill try that then
[01:17] <mcrandello> jbirdAngel have you run kappfinder? it will find a bunch of stuff
[01:18] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: is that a typo? network-manager-kde
[01:18] <iNiku> not network-manager-kde :)
[01:18] <iNiku> er, not netwoerk-manager-kde :)
[01:18] <mcrandello> then you can check off what you want in the menus
[01:18] <jbirdAngel> mcrandello: no, where do i fidn that
[01:18] <mcrandello> sudo apt-get install kappfinder
[01:18] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: lol i think it was a typo in this chat but i closed the terminal let me try again
[01:18] <jbirdAngel> mcrandello: oh okay thanks
[01:19] <mcrandello> you'll find apps you didn't know you had installed ;)
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Very COol mcrandello
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[01:20] <jbirdAngel> sudo apt-get install network-manager-kde  still had that error
[01:20] <jbirdAngel> same thing for kappfinder
[01:20] <Bilford> linuxmonkey, test
[01:20] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: do you have the universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[01:20] <yogi> 'apt-get install network-manager'
[01:20] <jbirdAngel> i can still go to google.com tho
[01:21] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: not if it didnt come that way
[01:21] <jbirdAngel> yogi: that couldnt open a lock file and couldnt lock the admin directory
[01:21] <howard> my system doesn't boot, it hangs when trying to start PCMCIA, what should I do?
[01:21] <iNiku> !universe
[01:21] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[01:21] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: take a look at that
[01:22] <yogi> jbird:you can't have two open at once.  That's the filename I get in Adept.
[01:22] <howard> single user mode isn't working either
[01:22] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: you need those enabled to install a lot of stuff
[01:22] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: the official repos that are enabled by default only have a small subset of all available software
[01:22] <yogi> Good luck! :-)  Too many cooks spoil the broth.  I think you're in good hands, jbird.
[01:22] <jbirdAngel> yogi: i dont knwo what you mean abouat two open at once adept and the terminal? okay thanks
[01:23] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: okay ill read htose
[01:23] <jbirdAngel> or look at them anyway
[01:23] <jbirdAngel> do i have X
[01:24] <mcrandello> if you're in kde you do
[01:24] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: yes, X is the graphical environment
[01:24] <os2mac> how goes the onslaught?
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Another noob question...  how can I backup my entire Kubuntu system,  I have a spare partition that will take it all. Should I dd it.  It is the same partition on hd(0,X) sda6 and hd(0,X) sdb6
[01:25] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: you'll want to look at the kubuntu section farther down on that page
[01:25] <jbirdAngel> okay thank you
[01:25] <mcrandello> jack, there's a KDE program called keep
[01:25] <mcrandello> I have no idea if it's any good or not
[01:25] <thingy> Jack_Sparrow: dd is very dangerous as well so be carefull
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> I'll check it out.. thanks and yes I know dd is dangerous..
[01:26] <os2mac> sounds like what he wants to do is a software raid.
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> not really
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> not trying to full time mirror
[01:26] <mcrandello> you could switch to the root dir and tar.bz it all :V
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> just wanted a backup
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Let me look at keep and get right back, thanks all
[01:28] <iNiku> cpio is good for backups... or rsync
[01:28] <paulvolk> Ok I have a question I just did a fresh install on my PC and I have added all the repositories and such but I still don't have all the software avalible that I did when I was running breezy.
[01:28] <paulvolk> Will that change or no?
[01:28] <flo> does anyone installed sharpconstruct under dapper? it gives me a seg fault , any ideeas?
[01:28] <troy> YAY! I did it! flash on amd64 w/ konq - no chroot required!
[01:28] <jbirdAngel> why is adept taking what seems to be a long time to load, also is there a way to turn tap clicking off of my laptop mouse
[01:29] <Bilford> Uptime: 16 hours and 52 minutes
[01:29] <jbirdAngel> i did like the tutorial says alt f2 type in adept and hit enter it boucned around and nothign came up
[01:29] <troy> if anyone is on amd64 (and cares for flash), try these instructions: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188198
[01:29] <jbirdAngel> i just opened it from the menu but its something wrong that it didnt come up the other way
[01:30] <azathoth> vista has a new neat thing where you can use a flash-drive as a swap disk, there's no way to do that in linux right now is there?
[01:30] <Bilford> Qt: 3.3.6
[01:30] <Bilford> KDE: 3.5.2
[01:30] <Bilford> kde-config: 1.0
[01:30] <paulvolk> Ok I have a question I just did a fresh install on my PC and I have added all the repositories and such but I still don't have all the software avalible that I did when I was running breezy. Will this change?
[01:30] <mcrandello> turn off tap 2 click -> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=370978&highlight=laptop+ps%2F2+mouse+touchpad
[01:30] <Bilford>  /WHOIS %u%n
[01:30] <h3sp4wn> azarthoth: That seems a silly idea (flash only has limited writes - 100,000 I think it is)
[01:31] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: that's strange, it should pop up a password request first and then start up
[01:31] <jbirdAngel> mcrandello: thank you
[01:31] <azathoth> h3sp4wn, apparently it's very very good and flash memory gets better constantly, there are hard-drives based on flash already on the market
[01:31] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: okay i mean it iddd that when i opened it from teh meny, also do i want to enable the deb and deb-src universe things
[01:32] <LinuxNewbie3> In Krita how can I make a Picture TRANSPARENT ?
[01:32] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: you won't need deb-src. the document says what you should do
[01:32] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: basically enable universe and add multiverse
[01:32] <jbirdAngel> oh ok i thought maybe it meant all the ones that say universe,
[01:32] <azathoth> h3sp4wn, there was testing done on the new vista builds and there was about a 40% increase in page-file access using the flash drives... even under very heavy load
[01:33] <jbirdAngel> okay ya it does specify teh ones to do
[01:33] <jbirdAngel> sorry
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> azathoth: What using it more ?
[01:33] <thingy> azathoth: wth? Are you trolling?
[01:33] <azathoth> nope
[01:33] <azathoth> i was asking whether such a thing would be possible in linux
[01:33] <linuxmonkey> lol webmin is removed from the app list in adept..lol
[01:34] <azathoth> because it's quite a good idea, i can dig up the url if you want to check it out
[01:35] <simp> what should i do with that: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15048 look at the end of the "story"
[01:35] <azathoth> http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2006/4/7/3501 <- they talk about it there
[01:35] <Kadran_> !vmware
[01:35] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[01:35] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: i just tried to open adept from the menu again and it had a bar in the bottom with its name bounced aroudn then is gone
[01:35] <paulvolk> why is there not a lot of software for drapper in adept?
[01:36] <jbirdAngel> and again..
[01:36] <azathoth> http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/05/24/vista-readyboost/ <- there, once more
[01:36] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: adept can take quite a while to start up on slower machines
[01:36] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: Any idea how to backport the alsa stuff from sid ?
[01:37] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: i dont know that my machine is that slow, its just that it is there and then disappears the bouncing goes away and so does its tollbar button item thing
[01:37] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: what alsa stuff does sid have?
[01:37] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: Newer versions of alsa lib etc
[01:38] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: the bouncing goes away after a configurable number of seconds, even if the app is still starting up
[01:38] <paulvolk> why is there not a lot of software for drapper in adept? can anyone anser my question?
[01:38] <crimsun> h3sp4wn: what do you need specifically?
[01:38] <azathoth> paulvolk, there's plenty of software available
[01:38] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: no idea, really
[01:38] <simp> paulvolk: maybe so people wouldn't have to remove the soft?
[01:39] <crimsun> h3sp4wn: I don't recommend you do that unless you /really/ need to, since I've backported all the outstanding critical ones from 1.0.11
[01:39] <crimsun> h3sp4wn: e.g., the dmix issue you have is still present in 1.0.11
[01:39] <paulvolk> azathoth, but I was running breezy and I did a fresh install and now I can't download any of the stuff I used to have.
[01:39] <conor> !mp3
[01:39] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:39] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: okay same forr teh button for it in the toolbar?
[01:39] <paulvolk> It is not on the repos!
[01:40] <linuxmonkey> is there a kubuntu display picture that I can use for my amsn?
[01:40] <ports> thingy he wasnt trolling.. its a valid feature question
[01:41] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: yes, I believe so
[01:41] <h3sp4wn> crimsun: I have compiled a 2.6.16 with the realtime patches (To use ardour with decent latancy - I have quite a bit of hardware midi kit I want to use) I thought it was mismatched between my kernel and the alsa stuff in dapper
[01:41] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: okay thanks and it slected knetworkmanager instead of network=manager-kde  thats fine?
[01:42] <jbirdAngel> but then in teh stuff it says recommended packages and it says the network managger gnome and kde
[01:42] <linuxmonkey> !seen ridell
[01:42] <ubotu> linuxmonkey: i haven't seen 'ridell'
[01:42] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: yes, that's fine
[01:42] <linuxmonkey> !seen riddell
[01:42] <ubotu> riddell is currently on #kubuntu (3d 14h 47m 33s) #ubuntu (3d 14h 47m 33s)
[01:42] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: okay thanks
[01:43] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: of course, if wlan is working for you now, you mean not want to break it again :)  but network manager *is* pretty nice
[01:43] <linuxmonkey> lol i didnt see him on my list for a moment
[01:43] <LinuxNewbie3> I am downloading things onto my Desktop but I do not see. I can see if I go tot he Desktop Fodler.
[01:43] <jbirdAngel> is a repository a text list with teh address for where things are and so i just type in teh keywoard it looks up its loaction on the repository then goes and gets it?
[01:43] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: for "Just Works" networking
[01:43] <thingy> ports: Jumped the gun...and to answer his question...mounting a flash drive and make a swap partition on it is easy. The utility of it is questionable...I briefly looked at his url and the comments on the article point out the problems with swap on flash!
[01:43] <MidMark> Hi
[01:43] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: a repository is a collection of software packages
[01:43] <paulvolk> For example there used to be a Java plug in that you could get from adept but now there isn't and I have no idea how to get java working!!!
[01:43] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: okay thanks, and it failed stopping my dhcp client manager do i do anything about that
[01:43] <MidMark> I have installed kdetv and now I have no more audio!
[01:43] <jbirdAngel> oh okay
[01:44] <linuxmonkey> 
[01:44] <crimsun> h3sp4wn: I don't know why you bothered
[01:44] <crimsun> h3sp4wn: your alsa driver is /precisely/ 1.0.11+git
[01:44] <crimsun> sorry, 1.0.11+hg
[01:45] <crimsun> it's actually even newer than 1.0.11
[01:45] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: hmm, i wouldn't worry about that... but you may want to reboot after it's installed to get it working. before that, you should make sure to comment out everything to do with eth0 and eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:45] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: otherwise network manager won't touch the interfaces
[01:45] <crimsun> h3sp4wn: we have a few kinks in Debian's pkg-alsa-devel's alsa-lib, so I'd not touch it yet.
[01:45] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: how do i comment them out i dont know where im commenting them out of or what your talkinga bout really?
[01:45] <LinuxNewbie3> I am downloading things onto my Desktop but I do not see. I can see if I go tot he Desktop Fodler.
[01:46] <conor> i cant play mp3's
[01:46] <crimsun> conor: install libxine-extracodecs
[01:46] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: okay, in a console, kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[01:46] <Bilford> !mp3
[01:46] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:47] <mongey> where do i get it
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> crimsun: I won't do that then (system is working fine otherwise - even doesn't lockup on logout all the time as it does with the ubuntu kernel) I am just learning about package building without anything I really need to do
[01:47] <jbirdAngel> also i installed kappfinder but i dont see it in my menu?
[01:47] <mcrandello> right click, then run, then type kappfinder
[01:48] <henning> jbird did u restart the session yet?
[01:48] <jbirdAngel> no, i havnt
[01:48] <henning> if not, try it ;)
[01:48] <jbirdAngel> and okay thanks
[01:48] <mcrandello> it might show up as "find non kde applications" or something like that in system administration
[01:48] <paulvolk> Where might I find a Debian packedge for Tor?
[01:48] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: comment out (that is, add a # in front of) every line except "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback"
[01:49] <crimsun> paulvolk: the tor programmers recommend you use the ones from their Web site
[01:49] <MidMark> I have installed kdetv and now I have no more audio! help me... what can I do?
[01:49] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: every line that doesn't start with a # already, that is.
[01:49] <MidMark> amarok say that cannot load any engine
[01:49] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: the only lines without a # should be those lo ones
[01:50] <paulvolk> lol funnything is crimsun, I went to there site yet they say to do "apt-get install tor" so I did but there is no packedge found. What can I do?
[01:50] <mcrandello> paulvolk: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=tor&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all&page=4&number=50
[01:50] <mcrandello> about halfway down
[01:50] <paulvolk> ok
[01:50] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: and so i open konsole adn type it kdesu kate /etc and all you said and then do that?
[01:50] <mcrandello> it's in universe so you may want to enable that repository
[01:50] <jbirdAngel> henning: i will do that here in a minute i think thank you
[01:50] <mongey> !audio
[01:50] <ubotu> mongey: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:51] <jbirdAngel> mcrandello: okay thanks
[01:51] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: yes
[01:51] <jbirdAngel> okay thanks
[01:51] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: make sure to leave the lo lines untouched
[01:51] <paulvolk> could someone tell me where I could find a list of repos for drapper?
[01:52] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: but everything concerning eth0 and eth1 should be commented with #, otherwise network manager won't manage them
[01:53] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: knetworkmanager does work perfectly with madwifi-ng (don't know if you noticed that earlier)
[01:53] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: okay so oonly lo lines should be un commented?
[01:53] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: No problems in 20 mins but I don't need so stopped it after that
[01:54] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: yep
[01:54] <jbirdAngel> i typed kdesu kate/etc/network/interfaces in butr it gave me errors and says command keate/etc/... not found
[01:54] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: cool. I don't really need it either but I kinda like it. I may give madwifi-ng a try myself
[01:54] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: there's a space between kate and /etc/network/interfaces
[01:55] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: it's nice that -ng actually fixes the scanning issue
[01:55] <Shaezsche> about every 10 minutes when running kubuntu a msg will pop up in HUGE letters that says LCD ON. why? ubuntu doesnt do this to me
[01:56] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: It is yes (but without rebuilding wpa_supplicant against the madwifi-ng tree) you just have to use wext (which is fully supported by madwifi-ng)
[01:56] <Shaezsche> 915gm graphic card, i810 driver
[01:56] <paulvolk> !repositories
[01:56] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[01:56] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: would there be any advantage in using the madwifi driver in wpa_supplicant instead of wext?
[01:57] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: looks like all wireless drivers are converging towards wext, anyway
[01:57] <iNiku> which is a good thing
[01:58] <Shaezsche> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[01:58] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: oh okay thanks
[01:58] <afm\colossus> hello everyone!
[01:58] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: I don't think though wext seems to work perfectly (sample output http://pastebin.com/756734)
[01:58] <afm\colossus> is there any easy and elegant way to integrate vim into KDE?
[01:59] <afm\colossus> i am not willing to adopt to kate or kwrite, but would like to use kio-slaves and all the other neat stuff
[01:59] <jbirdAngel> mcrandello: just so you know the appfidner didnt find firefox and thudnerbird so ill have to be sur to restart like henning said
[01:59] <skipster23> does anyone know how i can start apache httpd-2.2.2 on start up
[01:59] <afm\colossus> and kvim seems to be unmaintained for quite some time now
[02:00] <henning> if restarting the session does not work, you are at least sure that the simplest solution did not work
[02:01] <henning> and can try anything more complicated
[02:01] <henning> :)
[02:01] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: when i do that i still  gives a bunch of errors and then opens interfaces in kate all it says tho is auto and iface thigns
[02:01] <skipster23> thanks :(
[02:02] <mcrandello> jbird: if you go to a console and type 'fire' and then hit tab, does it autocomplete to 'firefox'?
[02:02] <jbirdAngel> mcrandello: hold on restarting
[02:02] <Shaezsche> about every 10 minutes when running kubuntu a msg will pop up in HUGE letters that says LCD ON. why? ubuntu doesnt do this to me
[02:02] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: um, restarting what?
[02:03] <iNiku> you need to fix the interfaces file first if you want network manager to work at all
[02:03] <simp> if i try to install mp3 support with the command libxine-extracodecs i get an error command not found, my sources.list looks like that: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15050 and i have used the command sudo apt-get update
[02:03] <henning> the session, re-login on kde
[02:03] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: my comp
[02:03] <henning> no, just relogin
[02:03] <jbirdAngel> oh
[02:03] <mongey> how do i install firefox
[02:03] <henning> don't need to restart i guess
[02:03] <mongey> or vlc
[02:04] <simp> mongey: sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:04] <simp> in terminal
[02:04] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: well, you already have interfaces open in the editor, right, so why not finish with that first?
[02:04] <simp> if i try to install mp3 support with the command libxine-extracodecs i get an error command not found, my sources.list looks like that: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15050 and i have used the command sudo apt-get update... sorry to repeat the question
[02:04] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: it only had auto and iface lines tnothing tha tlooked like what you said
[02:04] <skipster23> how about this can somebody click my url and just let me know if my sit is working http://skipster.is.dreaming.org
[02:04] <MidMark> guys amarok say that has no audio driver to initialize the xine engine, audio works!
[02:04] <MidMark> help me please
[02:05] <Phoenix1701> Hey all...
[02:05] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: yes, auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp, probably
[02:05] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: and the same for eth1
[02:05] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: those are exactly the lines you need to comment out, as I thought I had explained
[02:05] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: oh sorry you may have
[02:05] <Phoenix1701> I'm trying to upgrade from breezy to dapper, and the Wiki page (https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DapperUpgrades?action=show&redirect=DapperUpgradeNotes) claims I can just change the sources.list file to point to dapper and then apt-get update/dist-upgrade
[02:06] <Phoenix1701> However, the update fails saying that it can't find dapper/main.
[02:06] <Phoenix1701> Is this a known issue, and if so, how do I fix it?
[02:06] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: why do i get errors when i do the line in konsole?
[02:07] <henning> Phoenix1701 are there out-commented lines in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[02:07] <jbirdAngel> iniku okay so ive got outo and iface for lo  eth0 eth 1,2 and ath0 and wlan0 comment all but lo?
[02:07] <Phoenix1701> henning: Many, yes.
[02:07] <Phoenix1701> Which ones in particular are you interested in?
[02:07] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: kde apps tend to attempt a lot of stuff when starting up, don't worry about that
[02:07] <MidMark> guys amarok say that has no audio driver to initialize the xine engine, audio works!
[02:07] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: correct
[02:07] <mongey> and how do i get vlc
[02:07] <henning> Phoenix1701 try to un-out-comment them, linux needs them as sources
[02:07] <skipster23> Phoenix1701: i had that problem too i just downloaded kubuntu 6.06 and started fresh
[02:07] <jbirdAngel> iniku thanks
[02:08] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: after that, you may actually want to reboot to see that things actually work
[02:08] <Phoenix1701> henning: The only ones that were commented out were multiverse and security universe.
[02:08] <Phoenix1701> Are those likely to make a difference?
[02:08] <Phoenix1701> skipster23: I may do that too, yeah, but that's a pain.  :)
[02:08] <Phoenix1701> And I may as well hose my system completely trying to upgrade this way, and THEN install from CD -- more fun that way.  ;)
[02:08] <henning> mh not sure. as i installed kubuntu, every line was out-commented
[02:09] <henning> so i un-out-commented all of them
[02:09] <Phoenix1701> henning, did you have the same problem I just described, or a different one?
[02:09] <henning> (at least the sources, not the text)
[02:09] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: you should have a network manager icon in the system tray and when you click on that, you'll get a menu that shows the available networks, among other things... just click on a network, it should ask for the wep key, and bang, you should be connected
[02:09] <skipster23> no it boots off the cd into kubuntu and has an install icon on the desktop when finished reboot and your set
[02:09] <mongey> and how do i get vlc
[02:10] <Phoenix1701> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_packages_kde351_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:10] <Phoenix1701> That's the exact message apt-get gives me when I try to update.
[02:10] <LinuxNewbie3> I got mIRC with my Profile working :D
[02:10] <henning> Phoenix1701 my problem was not the same
[02:10] <skipster23> Phoenix1701: you from Phoenix, Arizona
[02:10] <mcrandello> apt-cache search vlc
[02:10] <Phoenix1701> skipster23: Nope...  different Phoenix, though I get asked that often.  :)
[02:11] <mcrandello> if it doesn't show up there then enable the universe repositories
[02:11] <Phoenix1701> henning: I'm not sure the solution will be the same for me, in that case...  though thank you anyway!
[02:11] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: okay well i did the wep stuff before in it and tried to connect before i did that now it doesnt seems to sit at activating network connection intel corp pro/wireless 2200bg
[02:11] <henning> thought it might help, np
[02:12] <jbirdAngel> henning: will re loging in do anything different as restarting didnt find firefox and thunderbird
[02:13] <mcrandello> they showing up in the console?
[02:13] <Phoenix1701> I just worked around the problem by commenting out the last line in the file, which was "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 dapper main" -- is that likely to be a problem...?
[02:13] <henning> they still don't show up?
[02:13] <mongey> anyone>
[02:13] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: hmm, wonder if you should reboot so the previous settings don't get in the way
[02:14] <jbirdAngel> henning: i didnt just log out and in i restarted, but ya they dont hsow
[02:14] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: okay restarting
[02:14] <DarkJesus> darkjesus
[02:14] <Phoenix1701> I'm also a little alarmed that kdebase isn't in the list of things it wants to update...
[02:15] <Phoenix1701> Since, well, isn't there a new version of KDE used in Dapper?
[02:15] <henning> jbirdangel okay, that was my idea, seems the problem is more complicated
[02:16] <jbirdAngel> henning: okay thanks
[02:16] <jbirdAngel> i tried atleast ubuntu before and didnt have any problems like these i dont think
[02:17] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: its doing connection in process for longer than i think it should
[02:17] <jbirdAngel> maybe i typed my wep wrong it borought that up
[02:17] <kameron> how do i get a sata drive detected and working?
[02:17] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: could be... it shows your network, though?
[02:18] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: sounds like it does :)
[02:18] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: ya i think so it didnt connect last time but let me try again
[02:20] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: i did a 128 wep thing, this says encyrption wep passphrase, but my passphrase is different from my key ive been putting my key in am i supposed to put the phrase in that gave me the key?
[02:20] <MidMark> guys someone thas has enabled rear speakers duplication with amarok?
[02:20] <jbirdAngel> iNiku: appareantly as it connected now
[02:21] <jbirdAngel> okay thank you everyone for your help ill do the other stuff later and go now
[02:21] <LinuxNewbie3> What is a good Linux IRC Chat Program, 1 that sort of looks like mIRC. I mean it can have Windows within Windows..
[02:22] <mcrandello> it looks like I located my bug :https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/41272/+index
[02:22] <LinuxNewbie3> So I can have few windows open at the sametime within it
[02:22] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: cool :)
[02:22] <Fillado> Konversation?
[02:22] <Phoenix1701> Fillado: I think LinuxNewbie3 wants something with MDI, rather than tabs.
[02:22] <LinuxNewbie3> MDI ?
[02:22] <afm\colossus> Multiple Document Interface
[02:22] <mcrandello> multi document interface, like windows 3.1
[02:22] <jbirdAngel> okay thank you have a nice time :)
[02:22] <afm\colossus> its a sickness, not a feature, imho
[02:22] <mcrandello> or opera
[02:23] <Phoenix1701> Yeah, what afm\colossus and mcrandello said.
[02:23] <Phoenix1701> And I agree, frankly -- MDI is horrible.
[02:23] <Phoenix1701> But if you're used to it, it can be familiar.
[02:23] <mcrandello> it really depends on the application
[02:23] <sillu> wireless assistant can't find my wifi network....
[02:24] <iNiku> jbirdAngel: you're welcome :)
[02:24] <sillu> iNiku: you cant have any rest from the wireless problems :)
[02:25] <LinuxNewbie3> Well ?
[02:25] <mcrandello> hang on...
[02:26] <mcrandello> http://www.opera.com/features/chat/
[02:26] <iNiku> sillu: sorry, I'm off :)
[02:26] <sillu> :)
[02:26] <sillu> actualy it isn't that bad
[02:26] <sillu> i can by behind a cable for few weeks :)
[02:26] <LinuxNewbie3> Opera... ?
[02:26] <mcrandello> well, it IS mdi and apparently handles irc :V
[02:27] <mcrandello> probably suboptimal though
[02:27] <skipster23> how do i go about setting up a lexmark X1185 printer
[02:28] <mcrandello> oh wow opera went tabs when did this happen was I asleep?
[02:29] <iNiku> mcrandello: opera does mdi, tabs and separate windows
[02:29] <LinuxNewbie3> mIRC works opens up starts to join channel then closes
[02:30] <iNiku> mcrandello: since years ago
[02:30] <mcrandello_> they'll always have tiled windows in my heart though :3
[02:34] <mcrandello_> \nick mcrandello
[02:35] <sillu> mcrandello: opera went tabs (if i'm right) in the 4-th version?
[02:40] <Phoenix1701> So, just in case anyone has joined since I asked my question the first time who might be able to answer it: I'm upgrading from Breezy to Dapper, trying to do so by editing sources.list and apt-getting myself up to the new version.
[02:40] <LinuxNewbie3> What is a good Torrent Client for Kubuntu ?
[02:41] <Phoenix1701> However, changing all instances of "breezy" to "dapper" in sources.list caused apt-get to complain about "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 dapper main", which doesn't exist.  So I commented it out, and now it's updating.
[02:41] <Phoenix1701> My question is, am I going to have a broken KDE install now because it's not updating KDE to the version Dapper uses?
[02:42] <chavo> Phoenix1701, no
[02:42] <Phoenix1701> chavo: So it'll be okay?  Or do you mean it'll be broken for some other reason?  ;)
[02:42] <chavo> everything's gonna be a-ok
[02:42] <Phoenix1701> Yay!
[02:43] <Phoenix1701> I wonder what's gonna happen when it gets to "Removing Konversation".
[02:43] <chavo> well it's still in memory so it'll keep running
[02:43] <sillu> Phoenix1701:  there will be a ping timeout :)
[02:44] <sillu> in some point
[02:44] <afm\colossus> is there a way to blacklist certain modules and prevent them from being loaded at bootup?
[02:44] <sillu> in windows there was msconfig if i remmember right... but in linux i personaly don't know
[02:50] <Kadran> afm\colossus: check the services
[02:51] <Kadran> afm\colossus: open 'system services' and edit what you want
[02:52] <Hobbsee> Phoenix1701: i'd more worry if it says "removing kdm"
[02:52] <Hobbsee> just install kubuntu-desktop over the top, once it finishes
[02:52] <Hobbsee> if you need do
[02:52] <Hobbsee> *to
[02:53] <afm\colossus> Kadran: thank you, but i don't want to edit my runlevels, i want kernel-modules not to be loaded :)
[02:54] <sillu> nokko:  you got your problem fixed?
[02:54] <simp> what did the CD check show nokko
[03:01] <linuxmonkey> omg Hobbsee your awake..lol
[03:01] <james_xxx> i am still mad that my screensavers won't work under KDE 3.5.3
[03:02] <Phoenix1701> Hmmm...
[03:02] <Phoenix1701> Removing kdm ...
[03:03] <Phoenix1701> (Except it was nice enough to ask me if I wanted to maybe wait until restart, and I said yes.)
[03:03] <simp> wireless assistant can't find my wifi network.... i think dapper should support my wifi card: linksys wireless-g 2,4ghz 802.11g
[03:05] <simp> wireless assistant can't find my wifi network.... i think dapper should support my wifi card: linksys wireless-g 2,4ghz 802.11g
[03:05] <Healot> good day kubuntuans
[03:06] <Healot> simp: what's the chipset of that card
[03:07] <simp> all i can find from that card right now is model no WUSB54g but s/n: meq10d401428 but nothing about chipset... where could i find out about it?
[03:07] <linuxmonkey> googlee
[03:08] <simp> ok
[03:08] <Rutger546> anybody actually got xgl with nvidia working fine on kubuntu?
[03:08] <Healot> simp: did the card configured properly? "ifconfig -a", do you see any wlan interfaces?
[03:08] <makko> simp: sorry, didn't notice you asked that (and thank you for asking): i am trying it now. it seems i found out what the problem was: i tried to install this new ubuntu over the old installation of ubuntu without reformatting the ubuntu partition
[03:08] <Healot> Rutger546: on my Ati Yes
[03:08] <makko> simp: i mean it seems this is the reason
[03:08] <Healot> makko: you did upgrade
[03:09] <makko> Healot: upgrade??
[03:09] <makko> Healot: what upgrade?
[03:09] <spiffy> hi quick question. If im upgrading from 5.10 to 6.06, can i use the new dvd for sources so i dont need to download all those packages?
[03:09] <makko> Healot: is there a new ubiquity?
[03:09] <simp> the WUSB54G uses the PrismGT chipset
[03:09] <makko> Healot: or you mean ubuntu upgrade?
[03:09] <simp> Healot: i can see it
[03:09] <Healot> makko: i meant, you install via upgrade right?
[03:09] <makko> Healot: from breezy to dapper?
[03:09] <Healot> yeah
[03:09] <makko> Healot: no!!
[03:09] <makko> Healot: is there any such thing on ubiquity?
[03:10] <makko> Healot: i mean is there such an option?
[03:10] <simp> and it is PrismGT chipset Healot
[03:10] <Rutger546> healot: with me when running compiz it gives me a white screen
[03:10] <Healot> makko: no... I was thinking, how can you install with Desktop CD without re-formatting the ubuntu partition?
[03:11] <makko> Healot: how do i choose update instead of install?
[03:11] <makko> Healot: i simply unchecked "format"
[03:11] <Healot> Rutger546: Since I don't have an nvidia card///
[03:11] <Healot> makko: that's upgrading I guess, coz you just overwrite the older files on that partition
[03:12] <ronnie> and kind souls willing to help with my wireless woes?   :(
[03:12] <simp> they'l try ronnie
[03:12] <Rutger546> healot: yeah I thought i'd ask
[03:12] <Healot> Rutger546: i suggest you lookup the launchpad bug list, or the wiki
[03:12] <Rutger546> its driving me nuts
[03:12] <makko> Healot: well, it seems ubiquity doesn't support that (very well?) for now
[03:12] <Rutger546> what howto did u use to get it up and running
[03:13] <Healot> xgl drives me nuts too... at first
[03:13] <ronnie> I have ridiculously slow browsing speeds. FTP/email are fine.
[03:13] <ronnie> Tried all the ipv6 stuff, no go.
[03:13] <simp> Healot: i can see my wireless card as eth1 and it has PrismGT chipset
[03:13] <Healot> Rutger546: well, first I set the 3D acceleration with the stock kernel driver, install xgl, it just run well...
[03:14] <Healot> simp: ok, that mean you have the card configured
[03:14] <simp> well i have used this card in windows for a year or so...
[03:14] <Healot> simp: can you check out the driver that you use for that wifi card?
[03:14] <simp> in windows?
[03:14] <Healot> ok... PrismGT is well supported, so just ignore the driver part
[03:15] <simp> ok
[03:15] <ronnie> this is going to sound weird but; i think my ath0 and eth0 are mixed up. ath0 seems to be asking eth0 for a WEP key...  :/
[03:16] <Healot> simp: hum, my suggestion, try to connect without any key first
[03:16] <shulman> when I try to enable file sharing from the system settings app under dapper drake, it lets me into administrator mode but everythign remains grayed out. is this a bug?
[03:16] <simp> well it cant even find a network
[03:16] <Healot> and next try WEP with the lowest security, and next gradually increase the key encryption level
[03:17] <simp> in wireless assistant
[03:17] <Healot> simp: did you configure the access point ID?
[03:17] <simp> emm nope...
[03:17] <simp> how d oi do that?
[03:17] <simp> do i do*
[03:17] <Healot> simp: you're opening the wireless manager?
[03:18] <Healot> see the list of your wifi card there?
[03:18] <Healot> !wifi
[03:18] <ubotu> methinks wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:18] <simp> ok i'l look at that
[03:18] <jeff_> hi
[03:19] <Healot> select your wifi card from the list, and click the "options" button
[03:19] <simp> i have to install wireless manager first... was it apt-get install wireless manager?
[03:20] <Healot> simp: it should be available if you installed "kubuntu-desktop"
[03:21] <Healot> KDE Menu -> Internet - > Wireless Assistant
[03:21] <simp> Healot: i didn't install the desktop
[03:21] <Healot> if you need debugging, i suggest you do it ever the terminal
[03:21] <Healot> heh
[03:21] <simp> it forze on the boot, adding live CD user ;)
[03:21] <Healot> iwconfig
[03:21] <simp> so i have the alternative version
[03:22] <Healot> use iwconfig instead
[03:22] <simp> there is "something" at eth1
[03:22] <simp> but i don't understand much about it there
[03:23] <Healot> simp: wireless card should be listed with the appropriate wifi extensions
[03:23] <simp> well it is listed there at the eth1
[03:24] <Healot> if you got "no wireless extensions", then that interfaces is not a wifi interfaces
[03:24] <blackgecko> is there a way to change de language of the entire system, i had to install dapper via a debootstrap cause im running it on a fake raid but it is using english, can i change it to spanish __
[03:24] <Healot> ok...
[03:24] <simp> at*
[03:24] <Healot> I guess you do have a wifi card detected properrly, now we'll go to setting up the interface
[03:24] <simp> healot could kwifimanager help in any way?
[03:24] <simp> i have it detected:)
[03:24] <Healot> simp: it simplifies teh commands you need to typed
[03:25] <simp> well should i have it?
[03:25] <Healot> yes, if you prefer not to type, or don't understand the syntax of iwconfig
[03:26] <simp> ok i just ran kwifimanager
[03:26] <Healot> just simply click the option button, then enter all appropriate information, it should work
[03:26] <Healot> especially with prism based  card
[03:27] <simp> well.. i'm afraid it isn't that easy...
[03:27] <Healot> well, it wasn't easy for me at first
[03:28] <simp> i'l show you why in a few sec-s
[03:28] <Healot> i made a lot of mistake confuring this rt bs
[03:28] <Bilford> tj9991, go to Boringville, ok, CHamp
[03:28] <simp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15053
[03:28] <simp> Healot: this what terminal says when i run kwifimanager
[03:28] <atul> Hello, I'm using dapper; everytime I start gvim it needs a few sends to start and the following message is printed on the console - /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: No such file or directory
[03:29] <atul> a few seconds to start
[03:29] <Healot> simp: run it from the KDE menu?
[03:30] <blackgecko> is there a way to change de language of the entire system, i had to install dapper via a debootstrap cause im running it on a fake raid but it is using english, can i change it to spanish
[03:30] <simp> ok i'l have to log off and then on again
[03:30] <simp> just installed it
[03:32] <vanRijn> re, all
[03:32] <vanRijn> anyone have a powerbook?
[03:33] <vanRijn> or is there a more appropriate channel for kubuntu/ppc discussion?
[03:33] <simp> it still finds no networks just as wireless assistant did
[03:33] <Kadran> #vmware
[03:33] <simp> Healot:
[03:34] <Healot> did you set the ESSID, etc?
[03:34] <simp> i haven't set anything... i actualy just pluged the card in
[03:35] <simp> oh
[03:35] <simp> sorry
[03:35] <Healot> bleh
[03:36] <simp> where can i set wpa?
[03:36] <Healot> hth can you browse for access point
[03:36] <Healot> it should be there in the option dialog
[03:36] <simp> ok
[03:37] <simp> healot now it says signal level 0
[03:38] <simp> but when i'm in windows i have 85% of the maximum signal
[03:38] <robin> hey all, the device icons go away every time i restart my pc, any idea's, or is this a bug
[03:38] <simp> and i can't find a place for wpa/psk-tkip
[03:39] <Healot> simp: no signal at all?
[03:39] <simp> no signal
[03:39] <simp> at all signal strength: 0
[03:39] <Healot> is the card turned on?
[03:39] <simp> yes
[03:40] <Healot> that's Layer 1 problem...
[03:40] <simp> actualy
[03:40] <simp> Healot:
[03:41] <simp> now i ran the wireless assistant
[03:41] <simp> and it found the network
[03:41] <Healot> mmkay
[03:41] <simp> but the only problem is that this client doesn't have wpa, atleast i can't find it
[03:41] <Rutger546> ARGH xgl is killing me
[03:41] <Healot> found the ap? simp?
[03:41] <Healot> simp: in desktop right now?
[03:42] <Healot> !wifi
[03:42] <ubotu> I guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:42] <simp> wireless assistant only has wep atleast right now
[03:43] <Healot> yes
[03:43] <ubuntu> hi; guys and girls
[03:43] <ubuntu> um i've got a question here
[03:43] <simp> oh i found wpa from wiki, thank you for help Healot
[03:43] <Healot> for WPA, i think wpa_supplicant handles the WPA key exchange... btw I'm off, later Kubuntuans
[03:44] <ubuntu> 5.10 works with sound and internet for me but 6.06 doesn't
[03:44] <ubuntu> i'm useing the live cd now
[03:44] <Dasnipa`JF|dads> also?
[03:44] <Dasnipa`JF|dads> alsa*
[03:44] <simp> ubuntu
[03:44] <simp> try upgrading
[03:44] <simp> ;)
[03:44] <ubuntu> i got a rtl8139 nic
[03:44] <troy> ubuntu: pretty standard nic, should work...
[03:44] <ubuntu> now a dlink 530tx
[03:45] <CaBlGuY> greets all o/
[03:45] <ubuntu> same issue with mepis 6.0 b4
[03:45] <ubuntu> based off of the new kernel
[03:45] <vinboy> how do I get unbanned from #ubuntu?
[03:45] <troy> ubuntu: are you using hard coded ips or some other voodoo?
[03:45] <CaBlGuY> hehe   vinboy don't do stupid stuff..   :p
[03:45] <CaBlGuY> J/K
[03:46] <ubuntu> no
[03:46] <ubuntu> dhcp
[03:46] <troy> vinboy: look for the contact person on wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat (if I got that right)
[03:46] <vinboy> CaBlGuY: I accidentally pasted too many lines
[03:46] <vinboy> thx troy
[03:46] <CaBlGuY> vinboy:  ahhh  so, Im assuming u know about pastebin now then..
[03:46] <vinboy> CaBlGuY: i wasn't actually wanting to paste anything
[03:46] <CaBlGuY> !seen Hobsee
[03:47] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'hobsee', CaBlGuY
[03:47] <CaBlGuY> !seen Hobbsee
[03:47] <ubotu> hobbsee <n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee> was last seen on IRC in channel #kubuntu, 54m 14s ago, saying: '*to'.
[03:47] <vinboy> i clicked wwrong button
[03:47] <troy> vinboy: seeing as it's in the topic :)
[03:47] <mcrandello> the old middle click
[03:47] <CaBlGuY> vinboy:  no..  here lemme show ya..
[03:47] <CaBlGuY> !tell vinboy about pastebin
[03:47] <mcrandello> the bane of those of us who have to highlight things to keep our place
[03:47] <vinboy> hahhaa
[03:47] <CaBlGuY> vinboy:  read that
[03:47] <robin> hey all, the device icons on my desktop go away every time i restart my pc, any idea's, or is this a bug
[03:47] <sophie_> hello all
[03:47] <vinboy> ok
[03:48] <james_xxx> i hope i am not being a pest about this, i realize it is not the most major issue, but some kubuntu dapper users have found that their screen savers no longer have worked after upgrading to KDE 3.5.3... does anyone have a suggestion?
[03:48] <CaBlGuY> Howdy sophie_  o/
[03:48] <sophie_> !tell sophie about pastebin
[03:48] <CaBlGuY> very good..   sophie_  :P
[03:48] <ubuntu> now could i upgrade amarok etc with out screwing up my networking and sound
[03:48] <Vose> Hi I tryed downloading pdf files to my desktop then to other locations and they vanish after being donloaded anyone know why?
[03:48] <mcrandello> james: I wound up simply installing xscreensaver and then renaming gnome-screensaver to gnome-screensaver.butts
[03:48] <ubuntu> ie i forget if it tried to upgrade kde
[03:49] <Vose> they seem to be there when I load kpdf but that is the only way I foud that they are still there just always vanishing?
[03:49] <sophie_> james_xxx: use powersaving to "really" save your screen and the enviroment
[03:49] <mcrandello> that's no fun say the bouncing cows
[03:49] <ubuntu> ok i'm going to try to install and see
[03:49] <james_xxx> sophie_: that is what i am doing now, but i like my screen savers :-P
[03:50] <Vose> are the files supose to vanish?
[03:51] <james_xxx> i want my computers to be productive, but i have to admit i like to have them fairly candied out lol
[03:51] <Vose> hi anyone?
[03:51] <simp> how to move the new song text of amarok?
[03:51] <mcrandello> in my case it was because the gnome ss doesn't let you set individual ss options, but something similar might work for your kde ss
[03:51] <simp> because right now it is in the middle of the screen
[03:51] <simp> and that's how i don't like it
[03:52] <troy> simp: Settings->Amarok->OSD->Drag to reposition...
[03:52] <simp> thank you troy
[03:53] <troy> or just turn it off - less annoying :)
[03:53] <linuxmonkey> hey CaBlGuY
[03:53] <linuxmonkey> wassup
[03:53] <yogi> I was just looking at a Romanian server... it has 'alternate' in the filename.  What gives?
[03:54] <MrObvious> I have a question. How do I apt-get install xchat when I just set up repos and it doesn't have xchat on there when it should?
[03:54] <Vose> hello?
[03:54] <MrObvious> Vose: Bye :p
[03:54] <mcrandello> apt-get update
[03:55] <Vose> MrOvious do I need to leave?
[03:55] <MrObvious> Vose: It was a joke
[03:55] <mcrandello> if it's still not there then something's wrong
[03:55] <MrObvious> Hence the :p
[03:55] <Vose> oh
[03:55] <Vose> fake haha
[03:55] <MrObvious> paul@downstairs:~$ sudo apt-get install xchat
[03:55] <MrObvious> Reading package lists... Done
[03:55] <MrObvious> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:55] <MrObvious> E: Couldn't find package xchat
[03:56] <Vose> *cheesy smile :-)
[03:56] <mcrandello> MrObvious: you did to sudo apt-get update after setting up the repos right?
[03:56] <MrObvious> I used adept and set up universe and multiverse and the 2 repos that come stock.
[03:56] <Bilford> tj9991, go to Boringville, ok, CHamp
[03:56] <MrObvious> I hope.
[03:56] <farous> MrObvious: do you have universe enabled
[03:56] <MrObvious> Yeah.
[03:57] <MrObvious> paul@downstairs:~$ sudo apt-get install xchat
[03:57] <MrObvious> Reading package lists... Done
[03:57] <MrObvious> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:57] <MrObvious> E: Couldn't find package xchat
[03:57] <MrObvious> Oops wrong thing sorry.
[03:57] <farous> MrObvious: run sudo apt-get update
[03:57] <MrObvious> farous: Just did.
[03:58] <MrObvious> In adept I have deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:58] <MrObvious> And deb-src "" ""
[03:58] <linuxmonkey> MrObvious: its not a backport
[03:58] <farous> MrObvious: it is in the main universe do not know of backports
[03:58] <Vose>  dose anyone who loves linux know anything about invisable pdf files afer being downloaded?
[03:59] <farous> MrObvious: so us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[03:59] <Bilford> Vose, did you download to your desktop
[03:59] <MrObvious> Ok I'll do the part where it says just dapper.
[03:59] <mcrandello> Vose wasit just these files that dissapeared from the desktop or every file you put there
[03:59] <linuxmonkey> MrObvious: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[03:59] <mcrandello> I think you have to set something in the desktop properties to make it show icons
[03:59] <Bilford> try logging out and in
[04:00] <Vose> mcrandello just pdf Bilford yes and to home also
[04:00] <mcrandello> oh
[04:00] <linuxmonkey> and MrObvious while your at it you should add multiverse to that one and deb-src just bellow it too
[04:00] <MrObvious> farous: I put that in but it still can't find xchat
[04:00] <farous> Vose: did you loginto the desktop dir using konq you can check it this way
[04:00] <farous> MrObvious: you need to run update source list again
[04:00] <mcrandello> there wasn't a dot in front of the filename by any chance was there?
[04:00] <MrObvious> I updated again.
[04:01] <Vose> I tryed installing firefox extention so I could view pdf in browser (Yes they apear in konqer for a milasecond and then disapear)
[04:01] <MrObvious> I put universe and multiverse on the adept line for dapper and the deb-src line below it too.
[04:01] <linuxmonkey> MrObvious: check to make sure u saved your new sources
[04:01] <farous> MrObvious: can you use the pastebin to paste our source.list file
[04:01] <MrObvious> THen I went sudo apt-get update
[04:01] <Vose> so it seems to be just a visual interface thing not a file structure thing
[04:01] <MrObvious> farous: Is that in /etc if I remember right?
[04:02] <mcrandello> from a console try ls -la *.pdf *.PDF
[04:02] <farous> MrObvious: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:02] <simp> how to change the login loading screen?
[04:02] <linuxmonkey> MrObvious: congrats to taking the first step to a better linux distro
[04:03] <simp> how to change the login loading screen?
[04:03] <Kadran> simp: use kcontrol
[04:03] <Vose> mcrandello I get this "No such file or directory"
[04:03] <simp> Kadran: kcontrol?
[04:03] <MrObvious> http://pastebin.com/756894
[04:04] <MrObvious> While I'm at it I might as well download mozilla firefox and get rid of konqueror
[04:04] <MrObvious> lol
[04:04] <MrObvious> *through apt get btw*
[04:04] <linuxmonkey> MrObvious: your sources arent enabled
[04:04] <Kadran> simp: kcontrol is an application that let you make kde of your taste :)
[04:05] <mcrandello> okay then they aren't dotfiles or anything simple
[04:05] <linux_galore> yeah but kcontrol can also manage hardware settings
[04:05] <simp> well it comes with the desktop version am i right Kadran?:P
[04:05] <linux_galore> and your users
[04:05] <Vose>  konq? farous what is that?
[04:05] <simp> so i'l have to install it :)
[04:05] <linuxmonkey> MrObvious: # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe <--see how its commented out. that means you didnt save your changes
[04:05] <farous> MrObvious: your univ repost is still dissabled
[04:06] <MrObvious> D'oh ok thanks linuxmonkey
[04:06] <NeoChaosX> Vose: short for Konqueror
[04:06] <Vose> thank you NeoChaosX
[04:06] <linux_galore> MrObvious: remove the # at the beginning of the line
[04:06] <Kadran> simp: sorry this will change your splash not the login,
[04:06] <farous> MrObvious: ok edit the file type sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:07] <MrObvious> Yeah I got that :)
[04:07] <MrObvious> Updating again
[04:07] <simp> i'm actualy talking about the loading thingy...
[04:07] <farous> ok
[04:07] <simp> i removed it from "somewhere" but where to get it back?
[04:07] <linux_galore> pffft in my day we used rocks and bits of wood to edit files
[04:07] <MrObvious> Yay that's better. Thanks for helping me with my n00bishness.
[04:07] <linuxmonkey> vim has its hi notes though
[04:08] <mcrandello> linux_g yeah I remember emacs :P
[04:08] <linuxmonkey> MrObvious: you add multiverse too?
[04:08] <linux_galore> heh heh
[04:08] <Vose> so it is not normal for certen files to not apear? or apear for a second and then vanish? such as pdf files
[04:08] <MrObvious> linux_galore: I know you were born before Noah but you don't need to brag about your wisdom :p
[04:08] <mcrandello> that's definitely not normal
[04:08] <farous> vose what is the name of the file
[04:08] <MrObvious> linuxmonkey:
[04:08] <MrObvious> linuxmonkey: Yes
[04:09] <farous> if it is perfixed by a . like .foo it is hidden
[04:09] <linux_galore> MrObvious: yeah I remember Noah, nice kid has this thing for big wooden boats
[04:09] <linuxmonkey> cool now you should be all set on that note and not have any issues if you decide to use restricted formats :)
[04:09] <Vose> varous eg. 6457539-4.pdf
[04:10] <farous> vose that is not normal no. can you open the file with kpdf
[04:10] <TheUni> i'm getting all kinds of errors after playing with X. changing back to the xorg.conf.backup doesnt help. is there a way to just reinstall it and use all defaults?
[04:10] <Vose> Farous I can open and see it with kpf
[04:10] <linux_galore> kpdf is really good, only feature missing is the auto fit to page in the printing
[04:11] <farous> Vose: how large is the file it might be trying to display it but it is too large
[04:11] <CaBlGuY> !mount windows
[04:11] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:11] <CaBlGuY> !windows
[04:11] <ubotu> For help with microsoft windows, please visit ##windows - see also https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1
[04:12] <Vose> farous: it just apears and then a second later vanishes in konq and on the desktop (No one page of text no images less then 10k)
[04:12] <Vose> desktop never visable just wierd
[04:12] <CaBlGuY> !win32
[04:12] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[04:12] <simp> :)
[04:12] <CaBlGuY> hmmmm
[04:13] <Bilford> !billgates
[04:13] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Bilford
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[04:13] <farous> Vose: can not figure this out hope you find a sol
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> !bill sux
[04:13] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:13] <simp> :P
[04:13] <Vose> farous ok cool thank it is good to know that it is not normal agian thank you
[04:13] <TheUni> can anyone help me with that?
[04:13] <farous> frankly has been a while since i last rn kde running fluxbox here
[04:13] <simp> how to cahnge the splash screen?
[04:14] <CaBlGuY> Hmmm  simp  if I knew, I would tell ya.. :p
[04:14] <Bilford> run kcontrol
[04:14] <Bilford> you can change Splash Screen from there
[04:14] <CaBlGuY> How bout mounting winblowz dirs...
[04:15] <simp> CaBlGuY: i did it somehow an hourd ago :P
[04:15] <simp> hour*
[04:15] <Bilford> on a network?
[04:15] <mcrandello> cabiguy:  /dev/sda3       /media/sda3     vfat    users,rw,umask=000      0  0
[04:15] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[04:15] <CaBlGuY> Bilford:  no, slave drive
[04:15] <Bilford> CaBlGuY, where are you directories
[04:15] <simp> Bilford: where exaxtly in kcontrol?
[04:15] <mcrandello> something like that?
[04:15] <Bilford> simp, I dont know, one of the first 2
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> Ummm  hang on, lemme see what drive it is..
[04:16] <mcrandello> funny thing I kept getting errors after installing dapper it was trying to run fsck.dos or something on them
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm  ok, Ubuntu sees it, but it's not mounted..
[04:17] <CaBlGuY> it's in computer:///
[04:17] <CaBlGuY> er somethin like that
[04:17] <Bilford> can it be mounted
[04:17] <CaBlGuY> no
[04:17] <farous> CaBlGuY: check it under /media
[04:17] <CaBlGuY>  tried..
[04:17] <linux_galore> TheUni: type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:17] <CaBlGuY> han gon
[04:18] <CaBlGuY> farous:  not there, just my two CD drives..
[04:18] <farous> did you check it in /etc/fstab
[04:18] <Bilford> you can access Windows shared folders via a network easily
[04:19] <CaBlGuY> Bilford:  but it's not a networked drive.. it's a slave drive in the same box..
[04:19] <Bilford> I know
[04:19] <farous> CaBlGuY: i used to double click on it to mount it or use the right mouse bot
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> I had it mounted in Breezy but, since I did a clean install, I gotta re-do everything..
[04:20] <Bilford> oh, why cant you mount it
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> farous:  not mountable..
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> ok, heres the error......
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> error: device /dev/hdb1 is not removable
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> error: could not execute pmount
[04:20] <farous> CaBlGuY: did you try mounting it in fstab. or using sudo mount or just plain pmount?
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> only wya I've "tried" to mount it is double clicking and right clicking and selecting mount...
[04:22] <farous> perhaps they changed how pmount work. Do not know but you can try sudo mount
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> no go both ways..
[04:22] <simp> yey finaly found the splash screen thingy :)
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> hehe simp
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> farous:  just type sudo mount??
[04:22] <farous> CaBlGuY: type cat /etc/mtab in a terminal and see if it is already there
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> ok, hang on, gotta use pastebin...
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> !pastebin
[04:24] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[04:24] <Bilford> CaBlGuY, you were in Administrator Mode I hope
[04:24] <linuxmonkey> crimsun or imbrandon u there?
[04:24] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: ?
[04:25] <linuxmonkey> can i msg ya for a sec
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> ok, here it is..
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15055
[04:25] <Bilford> CaBlGuY, you were in Administrator Mode I hope
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> and Bilford no I wasn;t in superuser mode..
[04:25] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: is it that security-sensitive that it needs query?
[04:25] <Bilford> no, when you go to the Drives screen
[04:25] <Bilford> you have to click the Administrator Mode button at the bottom
[04:26] <linuxmonkey> well its a bit off topic for this room
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> what admin button????
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> :O
[04:26] <Bilford> maximize it
[04:26] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> Hey linuxmonkey  o/
[04:26] <farous> CaBlGuY: it is not mounted
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> farous:  Nooooo really????
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:26] <farous> Bilford: you can mount using pmount as a regular user if you have the right permissions
[04:27] <Bilford> ok
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> ok, so how do I mount it usin pmount...
[04:27] <Bilford> um
[04:27] <Bilford> CaBlGuY, please try thise
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> also, I need to be able to have write permisions to it..
[04:27] <Bilford> go to the GUI drives screen
[04:27] <simp> is there a way to install adobe photoshop?
[04:28] <Bilford> maximize it
[04:28] <CaBlGuY> ok..
[04:28] <Bilford> go to Administrator Mode
[04:28] <mcrandello> simp install wine first then pray
[04:28] <mcrandello> optionally sacrifice a small goat
[04:28] <Bilford> dont you see the Adminstrator Mode button
[04:28] <Bilford> bottom right
[04:29] <CaBlGuY> No, I don;'t have that button..
[04:29] <farous> CaBlGuY: did you check uobtu link
[04:29] <CaBlGuY> I'm in dapper btw
[04:29] <farous> !tell CaBlGuY about ntfs
[04:29] <Bilford> go to kcontrol
[04:29] <Bilford> kcontrol - System Administration
[04:29] <CaBlGuY> I don;'t have K installed..
[04:29] <CaBlGuY> I'm using Gnome right now...
[04:29] <Bilford> why arent you asking in #Ubuntu then
[04:30] <CaBlGuY> hang on..
[04:30] <CaBlGuY> brb
[04:30] <Bilford> On mine, if Im not in Admin mode, the Enable button is grayed out
[04:31] <simp> i'm afraid it is time to go sleep
[04:33] <word> is there a way to uh...reinstall all the important parts of kubuntu but leave the settings? or a way to just backup all the installed programs and settings?
[04:34] <farous> word your setting are in your home dir so they will not be changed. packages configuration files on the other hand might be changed. but you will be prompted for that to keep the old or install new
[04:35] <word> so i can just boot up with the install cd and install over the old partition and i'll  be able to keep everything i want to?
[04:35] <farous> word for the packages you have. when i did the upgrade somw of them were removed and i had to reinstall them
[04:35] <farous> word so long you do not format your home dir
[04:35] <farous> it is always wise to put your home dir on a seperate partition for that reason
[04:36] <word> i have a usb thumb drive for that
[04:36] <mcrandello> yeah if it's on the same partition as your root filesystem (/) I'd just update then dist-upgrade from apt
[04:37] <word> I don't need to update i have dapper but I can't even access recovery console i keep getting I/O errors
[04:37] <word> I think some files got corrupted some how
[04:37] <mcrandello> ah
[04:38] <linuxmonkey> crimsun: should I put a specific comment or just leave it empty?
[04:38] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: that's up to you
[04:38] <linuxmonkey> lmao
[04:40] <farous> word is your home dir on a seperate partition
[04:40] <word> uhh if i just backup my home dir and then reformat the partition and install dapper again with the same user if I overwrite the new home dir will that cause conflicts?
[04:40] <word> farous: It will be but it isn't right now
[04:40] <farous> word you can also use the installation cd for rescue. just on the install prompt type rescue
[04:41] <word> hmm
[04:41] <word> farous: What does that do?
[04:41] <word> farous: Well I assume it rescues..but what exactly? lol.
[04:41] <farous> put you into rescue mode i think that why you wanted
[04:41] <farous> when did this prob occur. did you play with your xorg files
[04:42] <word> farous: Does it try to rescue the install by itself or would i be expected to direct it?
[04:42] <word> Naw, I tried to partition and was told i had a bad sector..then when i booted back in I had all this I/O errors.
[04:42] <word> now i've run progs to check the disk for errors and supposedly there aren't any
[04:42] <dwmurphy> hey guys.. is it possible to install kubuntu into a umsdos environment?
[04:43] <farous> am afraid i can not help word
[04:43] <word> farous: Will the rescue mode help do you think?
[04:44] <farous> word: you need to know what you want to fix.
[04:45] <word> well on boot up i have to skip evms otherwise it won't boot...i've tried reinstalling that package but it doesn't help
[04:46] <Bilford> wow
[04:47] <Bilford> FreeNode is big.  I'd never even heard of it before installing Kubuntu
[04:47] <azathoth> what's a good and simple terminal text editor?
[04:47] <Bilford> how simple
[04:47] <azathoth> Bilford: some of us have been here for years lurking in many channels
[04:47] <mcrandello> word I'm probably paranoid but after losing a few hundred gigs of music+movies to the maxtornator I'd reccomend backing up everything soon.
[04:47] <azathoth> Bilford: well simple in a 'not vim' simplicity
[04:48] <mcrandello> that sounds a lot like what happened right before my logic board gave up the ghost
[04:48] <Bilford> oh, I dont know what a terminal text editor is
[04:48] <azathoth> well a text editor you use in a terminal
[04:49] <mcrandello> azathoth: pico
[04:49] <azathoth> yeah?
[04:49] <mcrandello> well, nano but pico is what old timers type
[04:49] <mcrandello> the notepad of the xterm
[04:49] <simp-sleeping> Bilford: look at: /list
[04:49] <word> mcrandello: Thanks for the advice i'll steal some cd-r's from my bro and backup the things i can't do without even on my other partition before i reinstall dapper.
[04:49] <Bilford> ok
[04:50] <azathoth> ah cool, yeah it's much simpler than vi... thanks
[04:50] <mcrandello> word, again it might be nothing but once I started getting io errors on my drive it was all downhill
[05:06] <MrObvious> !nvidia
[05:06] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:17] <gene0915> Hello all...slight prob. I'm installing kubuntu 6.06 using the alternate CD. I have no option to install grub to /dev/fd0. It only puts it on the hard disk. How can I force grub onto the floppy during setup?
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey Gene
[05:34] <Mosi> Is anyone familiar with trying to install Kubuntu Dapper from a Live CD?
[05:34] <Qrawl> whats the problem
[05:35] <Mosi> I tried to upgrade to Dapper with apt-get and things broke, so i'm trying to reinstall from the CD. my machine has a separate /home partition i want to keep intact, and it's dual-booted with mac OS X (partition magagement nightmare)
[05:35] <Mosi> so i need to custom configure the partition table
[05:35] <Mosi> but in the graphical installer, it crashes when i try to do so
[05:35] <Mosi> is there a command-line alternative i can use?
[05:36] <Mosi> anyone?
[05:37] <Qrawl> what version do you have?
[05:37] <Qrawl> the latest Dapper CD?
[05:37] <Qrawl> or one of the betas
[05:38] <Qrawl> Flight 7 had a bug with that, I believe
[05:38] <Mosi> i just downloaded the basic installer CD  ISO for PPC off the website today
[05:38] <Mosi> so i assume it's current
[05:38] <Qrawl> oh
[05:39] <Mosi> is it possible that bug wasn't fixed in PPC release?
[05:39] <BlueEagle> mosi: Had that same problem on i386. Not sure what causes it. Seems it is trying to load gparted instead of qparted.
[05:39] <Mosi> BlueEagle: how'd you get it to work? or did you?
[05:40] <BlueEagle> mosi: I didn't.
[05:40] <Mosi> >_<\
[05:40] <BlueEagle> :)
[05:40] <BlueEagle> mosi: Looking for a workaround myself.
[05:40] <Mosi> i haven't trashed my old system yet, so i'm not totally hosed
[05:40] <Mosi> but X won't start on it, so that isn't a great help
[05:40] <Mosi> rather, it starts and crashes again after i log in
[05:40] <Mosi> seems to just be for me though, it works fune if i sudo startx
[05:46] <NeoChaosX> can anyone help me out here? I've got a problem and no one on ubuntuForums has replied to my thread
[05:46] <NeoChaosX> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187288&highlight=konqueror+fonts
[05:47] <Khalid> Couple questions...
[05:47] <Khalid> First, how do I change my screen resolution in KDE?
[05:48] <Mosi> for there being 200+ people in channel, there's really not very much help happening...
[05:58] <curt> Khalid:  resolution isn't really a function of the window manager -- it's a function of the X server itself.  You have to have all your desired resolutions specified in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  Then <ctrl><alt><keypad+> will increase your resolution and <ctrl><alt><keypad-> will decrease it
[06:02] <Khalid> Also, whats the web site for Uibuntu Archives?
[06:03] <Qrawl> open Konqueror
[06:03] <Qrawl> on the left bar, click the globe
[06:03] <Khalid> How do I get it back? I closed the bar
[06:04] <frood> I'm having trouble getting a fresh install of Kubntu running on my machine. X won't load and when I try to run it manually I get the following errors at the bottom of my logfile.
[06:04] <Qrawl> F9
[06:06] <Qrawl> click the Network tab on the left
[06:06] <frood> (WW) ATI: Candidate "device" section "Ati technologies inc. Radeon X850 blah blah blah
[06:06] <frood> PC mach64 in slot 5:0:0 could not be detected
[06:06] <frood> PC mach64 in slot 5:0:1 will not be enabled because it conflicts with another non-video PCI device.
[06:06] <frood> (EE) no devices detected
[06:07] <frood> Any ideas?
[06:08] <obscurite> Anyone know how to see how much shared mem your onboard video is using?
[06:12] <_steven> hello all
[06:12] <kameron> can anyone help me get a sata drive working?
[06:12] <_steven> how do i start x vnc viewer
[06:13] <Khalid> I'm trying to install kmuddy, and when I configure, it gives me this error: Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[06:13] <Khalid> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[06:13] <Khalid> whats all that mean?
[06:13] <kameron> _steven: xtightvncviewer perhaps/
[06:14] <_steven> i what?
[06:14] <_steven> in what?
[06:14] <_steven> its not tight vnc
[06:14] <kameron> _steven: what vnc is it?
[06:14] <_steven> its just xvncviewer
[06:14] <_steven> i got it off adept
[06:15] <kameron> _steven: yeah, it's probably tightvnc. hit alt+f2, then type "xvncviewer"
[06:15] <lemolemo> xczxczxc
[06:15] <lemolemo> zxczxczxczxczxc
[06:15] <_steven> thanx
[06:18] <chavo> Khalid, you need qt3 dev package libqt3-mt-dev
[06:18] <frood> @ati
[06:18] <frood> !ati
[06:18] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
[06:19] <_steven> how do i change my resolutuon to somthing higher
[06:20] <_steven> than it is in thw controll center
[06:23] <_steven> hmmmm????
[06:23] <_steven> how?
[06:24] <permanewb> I'm upgrading breezy -> dapper. I used apt-get dist-upgrade and it dies unpacking libkst1-dev while trying to overwrite /usr/lib/libkst.la which is also in package libkst1. Can I somehow say --force-yes for just this one package?
[06:25] <chavo> permanewb, you can dpkg -i --force overwrite
[06:25] <chavo> it'll be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:26] <_steven> how can i access a shared folder on my home network?
[06:27] <_steven> anyone?
[06:27] <Keffo> Can someone enlighten me what the difference is between the cd & dvd releases?
[06:27] <permanewb> urghh. then it says it depends on libkst1c2 which isn't installed...
[06:28] <obscurite> _steven - i think there's a browse network option somehwere
[06:28] <_steven> do i need drivers for ntfs?
[06:28] <Qrawl> Keffo, you only need the Live CD
[06:28] <Khalid> It says my libqt3 is at the newest edition
[06:29] <Qrawl> The live CD has an installer on the desktop
[06:29] <Qrawl> You now install Ubuntu from inside the Live CD
[06:29] <Keffo> I know, I just want to know -why- there is a 3.5gb dvd image, if it doesnt contain anything else than the cd? I mean, why would anyone download that?
[06:29] <_steven> where is this browse network thing?
[06:29] <Qrawl> no idea
[06:29] <Keffo> Qrawl: The installer failed miserably btw, but that was beta2. =)
[06:30] <Qrawl> I had no problems with installing Flight 7 or RC
[06:30] <_steven> hmmmmm?
[06:30] <chavo> Keffo, the dvd contains all of main
[06:30] <Qrawl> Browse network?
[06:30] <Keffo> After the first "next" -press, it just disapears, and then quiet.
[06:30] <Qrawl> Samba
[06:30] <Keffo> chavo: ah ok.
[06:31] <Keffo> chavo: That -should- be stated more clearly somewhere. =)
[06:31] <Qrawl> whats main
[06:31] <Keffo> repo.
[06:31] <Qrawl> oh
[06:31] <permanewb> chavo thanks dpkg -i --force-overwrite seems to have worked
[06:31] <chavo> cool
[06:31] <Keffo> it contains all of Maine. =)
[06:32] <chavo> you should be able to apt-get -f install, to finish it up
[06:32] <chavo> and a little New Hampshire :)
[06:32] <frood> I've got 2 maxtor 300GB disks forming a RAID mirror for my windows install. How can I get kubuntu to mount them so I don't break the mirror?
[06:36] <pppoe_dude> is there a good soft phone for kde? other than ekiga (which isnt for kde)
[06:36] <Khalid> chavo: If it says qt is at the latest version, what do you think the problem might be?
[06:36] <chavo> Khalid, are you sure you cheked   libqt3-mt-dev
[06:37] <Qrawl> if Ubuntu DVD contains all of Maine, Windows Vista contains all of TExas
[06:37] <Qrawl> its 10 gb
[06:37] <chavo> you need the -dev package
[06:37] <Search4Lancer> what can I use to count the characters in a block of text?
[06:38] <Qrawl> it tells you at the bottom
[06:38] <Qrawl> in the status bar
[06:38] <Qrawl> of most text editors
[06:38] <Khalid> Yeah, I did apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
[06:38] <Search4Lancer> ah, the column, Qrawl
[06:38] <Khalid> And it says its at the newest version
[06:38] <farous> khalid wht do you want to compile
[06:39] <Khalid> I'm trying to compile Kmuddy, a MUD Client
[06:39] <Khalid> so I can quit using telnet, it sucks
[06:40] <farous> khalid first you can use ssh no one using telnet anymore
[06:40] <farous> Khalid: second check the config files it might be looking for the lib header files in the wrong places
[06:41] <farous> type .config --help
[06:41] <farous> ./config --help sorry
[06:42] <Khalid> No help on it
[06:42] <Khalid> no such file or directory
[06:42] <farous> for example i had to specify to lyx where to look for qt and qt header files like that --with-extra-dir=/usr/share/qt3/lib --with-extra-inc=/usr/include/qt3
[06:42] <chavo> Khalid, it's configure
[06:43] <chavo> hmm I just downloaded it and it finds qt here no problems
[06:43] <chavo> try waht farous said
[06:43] <chavo> and try doing export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 also
[06:51] <Hawkwind> I'm hearing reports from someone that Kubuntu doesn't install easily on a box that does SMP.  I have a P4 3.2GHz HT(which obviously would do SMP) that I want to switch to Kubuntu from Mandriva as my main distro.  Will I have any problems installing it ?
[06:52] <Hawkwind> Actually he says it installs, but things don't work right afterwards
[06:59] <deviant> Anyone know what application I should install so I can have OpenGL? or MesaGL?
[07:02] <permanewb> Mesa or opengl support from you video card manufacturer I think.
[07:02] <permanewb> or xorg support for it
[07:04] <deviant> I have my ATI driver installed but it didn't give me OpenGL
[07:07] <permanewb> sorry I don't know. you can probably search for ati opengl debian or some such thing
[07:08] <Khalid> /usr/share/qt3/lib/ is where they should be...but it still gives me the same error
[07:13] <Ferdinand98324> hi there..plz...I'm trying upgrading from kubuntu 5.10 to 6.06
[07:13] <Ferdinand98324> I have the CDROM but when I wrote apt-cdrom nothing happens
[07:14] <Ferdinand98324> how can I add the CDROM to the repositories or upgrade from the CDROM, please, help
[07:15] <Ferdinand98324> hello?
[07:15] <ubuntu> how  do I rename myself in IRC?
[07:15] <homer77> @Ferdinand98324 Do you have Broadband-Connection?
[07:15] <Ferdinand98324> write /nick dd
[07:15] <Ferdinand98324> where dd is your new nickname
[07:15] <gizban> thanks
[07:16] <Ferdinand98324> homer77 I have the CDROM
[07:16] <Ferdinand98324> not live CD, just the other one
[07:16] <Ferdinand98324> I wanna use it for upgrading my kubuntu 5.10 to 6.06
[07:16] <gizban> does anyone know of an instant messaging program for linux that supports msn's user messages that appear besides people's names?
[07:17] <Ferdinand98324> apt-cdrom add
[07:18] <homer77> sorry, i never tried to upgrade by cd - only using internet ...
[07:19] <Ferdinand98324> thanks homer77
[07:19] <Ferdinand98324> I'm reading but nothing is working
[07:20] <vinboy> anyone seen this in Adept?
[07:20] <vinboy> CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[07:20] <Snake> gizban: kopete
[07:21] <Basilio_Banahaw> hello
[07:22] <homer77> The update-manager did not work for you?
[07:24] <Khalid> Are there any bit torrent programs for Ubuntu?
[07:25] <homer77> ferdinand: maybe hinting u to the wiki.ubuntu.com is too obvious? ;-)
[07:25] <vinboy> Khalid: use azureus
[07:25] <Snake> Khalid: tons
[07:26] <homer77> @Khalid: U can always use azureus ...
[07:26] <Snake> Khalid: If you want to fight with java, azureus is good, if you dont want to, Ktorrent works just as well
[07:26] <gizban> Snake: do you know how to make the message beside people's names appear?
[07:26] <Khalid> I don't suppose they are hidden somewhere with the Ubuntu install?
[07:26] <homer77> Of course if U use kde ...
[07:27] <Snake> gizban: what do you mean?
[07:28] <gizban> Snake: in the newest msn, (not live), people can add short messages beside their name.  I can't see people's messages while using Kopete
[07:28] <Snake> gizban: ahhh hmm....
[07:28] <Snake> gizban: I dont know if it supports it :-/
[07:28] <gizban> Snake: no big deal.  But thanks
[07:29] <Snake> Khalid: if your on Kubuntu Dapper (latest version) It came with ktorrent preinstalled for ya
[07:29] <Hawkwind> I'm hearing reports from someone that Kubuntu doesn't install easily on a box that does SMP.  I have a P4 3.2GHz HT(which obviously would do SMP) that I want to switch to Kubuntu from Mandriva as my main distro.  Will I have any problems installing it ?
[07:29] <Hawkwind> Actually he says it installs, but things don't work right afterwards
[07:31] <ports-> Hawkwind thats incorrect.. HT != SMP
[07:31] <Hawkwind> Ok, but that doesn't answer my question :P
[07:32] <ports-> Hawkwind You asked a question with incorrect information. Answer: not found
[07:32] <Hawkwind> In Mandriva I use an 'smp' kernel so that I utilize the HT part of the processor.  Will everything work ok when I install Kubuntu ?
[07:32] <ports-> Kubuntu will run just fine on a system that has HT.
[07:33] <Hawkwind> Hmmm, so I wonder why he's saying that he's having nothing but issues and he's tried several times
[07:34] <ports-> He probably didn't install the SMP kernel on Kubuntu correctly
[07:34] <Hawkwind> Will it install the smp kernel during initial install ?
[07:34] <Hawkwind> Or is that something you have to do after you boot the first time ?
[07:35] <ports-> You'll install Kubuntu with the default i386 kernel.  Afterwards you'll use Adept and get the SMP kernel. Make sure you get the kernel image and headers.  Once it's installed it'll become the default kernel in Grub
[07:36] <Hawkwind> ports-: Does one have to use the GUI pm to install it ?  Surely I could do it via apt-get
[07:36] <ports-> from the forums it looks like it's called the K7 SMP kernel..
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Is kopete 0.12 out?
[07:36] <ports-> Hawkwind why not use adept? it's easier
[07:37] <Hawkwind> ports-: I despise GUI package managers
[07:37] <Hawkwind> I come from a world where they are badly broken and don't trust them
[07:37] <ports-> i take that back. its not the K7 thats for AMD duals
[07:40] <ports-> you're going to have to use Adept to find the package with the Intel HT kernel..
[07:41] <Hawkwind> Hmm, so apt-cache search kernel or something wouldn't work ?
[07:41] <farous> Hawkwind: will work
[07:41] <farous> aptitude search works too
[07:41] <ports-> thats fine. just make sure you get all of the kernel
[07:42] <Hawkwind> ports-: Ok thanks.  I'm sure if I get stuck I can always get help here :)
[07:42] <ports-> itll be 2 packages
[07:42] <ports-> linux-k7-smp linux-headers-k7-smp  <- thats what the AMD kernel looks like
[07:43] <Khalid> Where can I get a list of the ubuntu archives without using the package manager?
[07:43] <farous> packages.ubuntu.com
[07:45] <qbar> Can someone give me help getting apple trailers to work in konqueror?  All kmplayer gives me is black box with no video.
[07:45] <gizban> how do I change the keyboard shortcuts in KDE?
[07:46] <ports-> qbar http://kmplayer.kde.org/
[07:46] <Hobbsee> gizban: system settings, regions and accessibility, keyboard shortcuts
[07:46] <DjDarkman> hy ,can someone tell me wich program fixes partition table error?
[07:47] <gizban> Hobbsee: thanks, I never would have guessed there
[07:47] <farous> oh is kernel-image synonum to linux-image for 2.4 kernel?
[07:47] <Hobbsee> gizban: :)  the search also helps - up the top
[07:47] <farous> i need it for installing my matlab that only run on linux 2.4
[07:47] <ports-> farous yes
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Anyone doing a kopete 0.12 repo for 6.06?
[07:48] <farous> thanx ports i asked before and was told that those kernel are not ava for dapper
[07:48] <farous> thanx again
[07:48] <ports-> farous lol it may not be for Dapper
[07:48] <farous> i have it on dapper repos
[07:48] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: yes, probably.
[07:49] <ports-> farous ask Hobbsee to make sure..
[07:49] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:49] <Hobbsee> ports-: what?  why would i know?
[07:49] <_nano_> lol
[07:49] <DjDarkman> can someone tell me wich program fixes partition table errors?
[07:49] <farous> Hobbsee: is kernel image 2.4.27 works with dapper it is on dapper repos
[07:49] <ports-> Hobbsee no idea.. but you're probably on Kubuntu so you could atleast read the package description
[07:49] <farous> i need it for matlab
[07:49] <Hobbsee> DjDarkman: er, fdisk?  no idea
[07:49] <Hobbsee> ports-: ah, i see...
[07:50] <ports-> Hobbsee i dont have my laptop.. left it on home.. so i cant use Kubuntu atm
[07:50] <DjDarkman> and how can i make fdisk do it ,wich parameters do i need?
[07:50] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: when it does eventuate, it'll probably be chucked on kubuntu.org
[07:50] <Hobbsee> DjDarkman: that was a guess.  man fdisk.
[07:50] <farous> newer will not run it. i guess it won't break anyting anyhow
[07:50] <DjDarkman> ok tahnks
[07:50] <ports-> DjDarkman youd use cFdisk..
[07:51] <DjDarkman> cfdisk? what is the difference?
[07:51] <ports-> fdisk wont see youre linux partitions ... cfdisk will
[07:51] <farous> anyway better be safe will try it on my genie pig notebook thanx again ports
[07:51] <frood> I can't get any of my GL screensaver to work. What gives?
[07:51] <Hobbsee> ports-: sudo fdisk -l seems to see all of them, thought...
[07:51] <Hobbsee> frood: ah yes.  install....
[07:51] <Hobbsee> *searches*
[07:52] <Hobbsee> frood: sudo apt-get install kscreensaver-xsavers - if these are the rss-glx ones that dont work properly.
[07:52] <ports-> Hobbsee unless if theres a linux version of fdisk (which there may be)  MS FDisk doesnt see it
[07:52] <Hobbsee> ports-: ah, i was referring to the linux version of fdisk :)
[07:53] <ports-> Hobbsee http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cfdisk
[07:53] <frood> Hobbsee:  Already at latest version
[07:53] <DjDarkman> i was planning on doing this from knoppix
[07:53] <Hobbsee> ah yes
[07:53] <frood> Hobbsee: When I try to run them all i get is a blank screen.
[07:53] <DjDarkman> i don`t like the ms fdisk
[07:53] <Hobbsee> frood: yeah, install kscreensaver-xsavers
[07:54] <ports-> my beer got warm :(
[07:54] <frood> Hobbsee: They are already installed.
[07:54] <Qrawl> my coffee got cold
[07:54] <frood> I can't install them further.
[07:54] <Hobbsee> frood: darn it!  is xscreensavers installed?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Anyone tried to install the picard tunepimp into amarok?
[07:55] <Snake> perks**
[07:56] <frood> Hobbsee: Yep. It's installed.
[07:56] <Hobbsee> frood: mm okay.  what happens if you remove it?
[07:57] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: would you be interested in helping test?
[07:57] <Hawkwind> WTH is the command to actually run the program xscreensaver  ?  In Mandriva it's simply that, xscreensaver but that doesn't seem to do anything Kubuntu
[07:57] <frood> Hobbsee: Lemme check.
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Always
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Where do you need me?
[07:58] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: cool.  i dont need you yet :)
[07:58] <Hobbsee> i still have to create it yet :P
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Which package? Just to be clear
[07:58] <frood> Bah. Adept really sucks.
[07:59] <DaSkreech> frood: Me Disagree :) What ails you with it?
[07:59] <frood> Hobbsee: Well. I removed it and I get less screen savers listed in the screensaver section but I still can't launch anything that has a (gl) at the end of it.
[08:00] <frood> DaSkreech: Low selection.
[08:00] <Hobbsee> frood: darn
[08:00] <DaSkreech> frood: Of what?
[08:01] <DjDarkman> hy ,i`m back ,cfdisk didn`t work ,but fdisk did : The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 9964.
[08:01] <DjDarkman> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[08:01] <DjDarkman> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
[08:01] <DjDarkman> what should i do now?
[08:01] <frood> DaSkreech: Well, there is no way to select repositories and the list of apps available is kinda short.
[08:02] <DaSkreech> frood: are you on Breezy or dapper?
[08:02] <frood> dapper
[08:02] <frood> breezy didn't have this kind of problem.
[08:02] <DaSkreech> and there is no entry under the Adept menu?
[08:02] <frood> Nope.
[08:03] <DaSkreech> The first menu at the top and the second selection down?
[08:03] <frood> Bah. All I want is to install the Bouncing Cow screensaver. Is that too much to ask?
[08:03] <DaSkreech> What do you have under the adept menu?
[08:03] <unix_infidel> hey guys i've got a problem, i recently did an apt-get upgrade to dapper and seem to be getting an error on startx
[08:04] <frood> I'll tell you when it loads
[08:04] <unix_infidel> i get the error:
[08:04] <unix_infidel> where it tries to create a new serverauth
[08:04] <unix_infidel> ang gives...xinit: server error
[08:04] <frood> Hrmm. Adept doesn't want to open. It just chugs for a while and then stops.
[08:06] <unix_infidel> Heya there.
[08:06] <unix_infidel> ahhh. xorg.conf problelm :)
[08:07] <frood> Bah. No GL screensavers for me.
[08:07] <DaSkreech> frood: Hmm sure you don't have apt-get running?
[08:08] <ppd> hi
[08:08] <ppd> I have a problem with kde 3.5.3 and my printer. am I the only one?
[08:09] <unix_infidel> can someone on dapper PLEASE pastebin their xorg.conf file for me please.
[08:09] <frood> DaSkreech: Yep.
[08:09] <DaSkreech> frood: can You do a ps aux | grep adept
[08:09] <frood> DaSkreech: I got it to work by typing adept in the 'run command' window. Old adept. not the 'add remove programs' one
[08:10] <DaSkreech> Oh yeah :) thats the good one :)
[08:10] <DjDarkman> can someone help me with partition table errors?
[08:10] <DaSkreech> try the adept menu now :)
[08:10] <frood> damnit. Where did the bouncing cow screensaver go?
[08:11] <DaSkreech> frood: try search for saver
[08:11] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Which package are we talking about?
[08:11] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: kopete 0.12
[08:12] <DaSkreech> Ah ok ;)
[08:12] <DaSkreech> Snake: So what about picard?
[08:12] <Snake> DaSkreech: Iunno, hes a cool char.. :)
[08:13] <frood> I thought the bouncing cow was part of the gnome screen saver package
[08:13] <Snake> lol
[08:13] <unix_infidel> if i do an upgrade from breezy to dapper do i have to alter the paths in xorg.conf?
[08:13] <DaSkreech> It was?
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Or was that the electric sheep?
[08:16] <frood> Bah. I'll figure this out tomorrow.
[08:16] <frood> Nite.
[08:19] <unix_infidel> wowza, Dapper upgrade didnt even bother to install xorg7 or even tell me that it had problems resolving that upgrade.
[08:19] <unix_infidel> leaves me wanting to do a clean install :P
[08:20] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Stalker!
[08:20] <DShepherd> sue me!
[08:22] <DaSkreech> ok
[08:22] <DaSkreech> Let me know when you get paid :)
[08:25] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: ok
[08:25] <DShepherd> in here is quiet compared to ubuntu
[08:25] <DaSkreech> Yeah tell me about it
[08:25] <DaSkreech> My head hurts in the Ubuntu chan
[08:26] <DaSkreech> You should see the #ebuntu chan!
[08:26] <pussfeller> my usb mounts have no "safely remove" in the context menus
[08:30] <Snake> DaSkreech: ROFL
[08:30] <pussfeller> well, they didn't earlier NM
[08:31] <DaSkreech> Snake: So I take it you have no idea which picard I'm talking about :-)
[08:31] <Snake> DaSkreech: I thought you ment the guy from trek..
[08:31] <DaSkreech> Yeah so did I at first :-)
[08:31] <Snake> :)
[08:32] <DaSkreech> Snake: http://musicbrainz.org/news/picard.html
[08:34] <_Pete_> morning, can someone help me with Amarok music player ?
[08:34] <PyroMithrandir> what's the problem with it, _Pete_
[08:34] <unix_infidel> lol, wow that ubuntu upgrade was almost as tedious as the archlinux pacman -Suy's
[08:35] <_Pete_> when I try to play mp3 it "plays" it very fast and nothing comes out from the speakers
[08:35] <DaSkreech> ubotu: tell _Pete_ about mp3
[08:35] <PyroMithrandir> anything else play mp3s?
[08:35] <PyroMithrandir> otherwise, yeah, do the stuff from
[08:35] <PyroMithrandir> !mp3
[08:35] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:36] <_Pete_> beep-media-player plays them very well
[08:37] <hastesaver> _Pete_, Do everything on the RestrictedFormats page. You might also want to take a look at http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.06
[08:38] <hastesaver> !tell nixternal`zzz about away
[08:38] <adamant1988> what repos do I need to add to get support for Mp3s, flash, etc.
[08:38] <hastesaver> !tell adamant1988 about restricted
[08:39] <adamant1988> Hastesaver, I am not going to turn 3,000 mp3s into ogg vorbis when I can simply add a repo
[08:40] <nixternal`zzz> so hastesaver...i can't change my nick when i'm leaving?
[08:40] <hastesaver> adamant1988, did you even read that page?
[08:40] <denver1> i'm going to install the amd64 version of kubuntu and was wondering i can install flash and java ?
[08:40] <adamant1988> yeah, it said that restricted formats could be replaced with free ones
[08:40] <hastesaver> adamant1988, it tells you what repos to add. No one asked you to convert to ogg
[08:41] <DaSkreech> Though that would be cool :)
[08:42] <hastesaver> adamant1988 (gone), in fact, that page doesn't mention that "restricted formats could be replaced with free ones". Only ubotu's /msg says that...
[08:45] <unix_infidel> haha, this is just spectacular i'm getting segfaults on .15 AND (the previously functional) .12 kernels that i was running...
[08:47] <_Pete_> PyroMithrandir & DaSkreech: I think I have now done everything the guides say but still same behaviour :/
[08:48] <_Pete_> what is the difference between xine/gstreamer systems?
[08:48] <defrysk> any issues with KDE 3.5.3 on dapper ?
[08:49] <linux_galore> gstreamer is more audio orientated
[08:49] <_Pete_> I'm little bit confused about those different video/audio subsystems
[08:50] <defrysk> xine is more reliable usually
[08:50] <_Pete_> should I have gstreamer somehow installed / setup ? In Amarok I can only choose xine as a engine
[08:50] <linux_galore> depends I use gstreamer for audio streaming, works way better than xine
[08:50] <linux_galore> as a back end for amarok
[08:51] <defrysk> install amarok-engines and see what you get
[08:51] <linux_galore> _Pete_: Unix is more like lego, you can build the app in parts and often things can be swapped around in a plugin manner
[08:51] <_Pete_> yes I know
[08:52] <linux_galore> _Pete_: the idea being if one doesnt work try the other
[08:52] <_Pete_> but the problem seems to be which blocks to use in certain situations :)
[08:52] <defrysk> any issues with KDE 3.5.3 on dapper ?
[08:52] <defrysk> anyone ?
[08:52] <linux_galore> _Pete_: xine for video and gstreamer for audio
[08:52] <Hobbsee> defrysk: not that i'm aware of
[08:52] <defrysk> Hobbsee, k thanks :)
[08:53] <linux_galore> defrysk: works
[08:53] <_Pete_> linux_galore: ok, but in Amarok's engine configuration pane the only available choice for engine is Xine, what should I install to get gstreamer there ?
[08:54] <DaSkreech> amarok-engines
[08:54] <linux_galore> _Pete_: theres a seperate amarok-gstreamer package
[08:54] <linux_galore> _Pete_: install amarok-engines
[08:54] <_Pete_> E: Couldn't find package amarok-gstreamer
[08:55] <_Pete_> now I start to think my sources.list is not correct
[08:55] <_Pete_> The system is orginally installed from some dapper beta cd
[08:55] <_Pete_> about 3months ago
[08:56] <linux_galore> think the amarok download page supports debian so you can add amarok to your sources.list file
[08:56] <_Pete_> so amarok-gstreamer is not available from standard ubuntu repos ?
[08:57] <linux_galore> _Pete_: not sure I downloaded the tarball and built it from scratch
[08:57] <homer77_> only amarok-engines and amarok-xine - even in altered repos
[08:57] <linux_galore> _Pete_: its called amarok-engines
[08:57] <_Pete_> I did:
[08:57] <_Pete_> # apt-get install amarok-engines
[08:57] <_Pete_> Reading package lists... Done
[08:57] <_Pete_> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:57] <_Pete_> The following extra packages will be installed:
[08:57] <_Pete_>   amarok-arts
[08:57] <_Pete_> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[08:58] <_Pete_>   amarok-arts amarok-engines
[08:58] <homer77_> linux_galore: I installed amarok-engines and still only can choose xine - dunno why
[08:59] <homer77_> oh! is amarok-arts needed for?
[09:03] <linux_galore> http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta3/pool-dapper/  shows amarok-gstreamer  weird
[09:04] <linux_galore> but the final stable its disapears
[09:04] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:04] <linux_galore> I suspect it was merged into a single package and if you dont see gstreamer you need to install some gstreamer stuff
[09:05] <linux_galore> dont use arts with amarok it blows
[09:06] <defrysk> http://www.superkaramba.com/ = expired :s
[09:06] <_Pete_> and what its this "some gstreamer stuff" exactly? :)
[09:06] <slow-motion> i wanted to install kubuntu from the cd, but it takes ages since kde has bootet
[09:07] <slow-motion> so it is impossible to start the installation program
[09:08] <linux_galore> GStreamer is a library that allows the construction of graphs of media-handling components, ranging from simple Ogg/Vorbis playback to complex audio (mixing) and video (non-linear editing) processing.
[09:09] <linux_galore> http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/
[09:09] <linux_galore> slow-motion: tells me you dont have enough resources
[09:10] <linux_galore> slow-motion: might want to try xubuntu
[09:10] <slow-motion> kubuntu was running from hd fine
[09:10] <azathoth> why is gam_server eating a load of my cpu time?
[09:10] <linux_galore> azathoth: something is crashed
[09:10] <azathoth> how can i find out what is crashed, and fix it?
[09:10] <linux_galore> azathoth: run ksysguard
[09:11] <linux_galore> sudo ksysguard
 slow-motion: might want to try xubuntu < that is what i'm downloading now
[09:11] <azathoth> where can i see what's crashed?
[09:11] <linux_galore> azathoth: in the second tab
[09:12] <linux_galore> azathoth: look for something using lots of system resources
[09:12] <linux_galore> azathoth: highlight it then click on the kill button
[09:12] <azathoth> well the only thing thats using my resources is the gam_server
[09:12] <azathoth> and i've tried killing it, but it keeps coming back
[09:12] <linux_galore> azathoth: then kill it
[09:13] <azathoth> i kill it, it pops right back and uses the same shedload of resources
[09:13] <linux_galore> azathoth: isnt the gam server a gnome thing
[09:13] <azathoth> dunno
[09:15] <linux_galore> azathoth: yeah its part of nautilus, god knows why your using that
[09:15] <azathoth> i'm not, i think i was just using some gnome apps
[09:16] <linux_galore> azathoth: I would say something is using gam_server thats why it keeps respawning
[09:27] <azathoth> how can i remove all gnome apps from my system and stick purely with kde? i started with an ubuntu install and changed to kde-desktop
[09:27] <azathoth> is there a simple way, or is it troublesome?
[09:27] <Hobbsee> !removegnome
[09:27] <ubotu> Hobbsee: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:29] <azathoth> ah crpa this, i'm rebooting :(
[09:34] <sanroque> hi
[09:34] <sanroque> how are u?
[09:51] <slow-motion> bbl
[10:02] <_jpierre> Hi. Can anyone recommend a program to upload photos for services like flickr, but not flickr?
[10:03] <scorp007> hi, i have a problem with my ati drivers not being used
[10:03] <scorp007> they seem to be installed just fine, but kde is still using mesa
[10:05] <scorp007> any ideas?
[10:07] <_jpierre> scorp007: not me mate sorry
[10:16] <stevekl> What plugin for firefox do I need to hear sound in ytmnd.com?
[10:16] <tj9991> quicktime
[10:16] <tj9991> if i remember correctly
[10:16] <tj9991> dont quote me on it though
[10:16] <tj9991> i just sweep the floors here
[10:17] <method|> does kubunut dapper measure up to ubuntu dapper is it still the bastard child like kubuntu breezy that ubuntu developers really dont care about?
[10:18] <rob> I'm finding Kubuntu pretty good
[10:18] <Zaire> naturally its kde
[10:18] <Zaire> kde=good lol
[10:18] <rob> I have done about an hour of tweaking to get it how I like it though
[10:18] <tj9991> we only beat it oncew a week
[10:19] <tj9991> sometimes we go light on it if it does the dishes and cleans the house
[10:19] <Zaire> Im liking Xubuntu dapper other then I can't get my nvidia driver to see the kernels sources
[10:20] <Zaire> actually Im finding Xubuntu to be more stable then kubuntu a friend of mine said its prob cause xfce isn't as heavy as far as environments go
[10:27] <pussfeller> considering kubuntu market share vs ubuntu, its pretty damn good
[10:28] <pussfeller> altho I have found myself using gnome lately.....
[10:28] <crimsun> Zaire: you only need linux-headers-$(uname -r), not linux-source
[10:28] <Zaire> trust me I got the headers and the driver is asking for source
[10:29] <Zaire> it wants the source tree
[10:29] <pussfeller> you are using restricted-modules?
[10:29] <crimsun> since when did it want the tree? That's retarded as all.
[10:30] <Zaire> don't ask me just going off of what the nvidia driver asks for and it seems it can't find the kernel source tree and its haulting the dirver
[10:33] <Zaire> ooook then well if anything the synaptic package manager has a better search parameter then adept does lol
[10:33] <Zaire> I think I may have found the source tree
[10:33] <pussfeller> i was deleting 1.5 gigs out of var/cache/apt/archives today and I thot, what a waste... why aren't debs shared by p2p somehow
[10:34] <Zaire> why would they need to be most of what you need can be downloaded and installed via aptget lol
[10:35] <pussfeller> right, but that puts load on servers and requires centrallymanaged bandwidth that someone has to pay for
[10:35] <Zaire> true
[10:35] <Zaire> p2p is kinda outdated though bittorrent would be better
[10:36] <pussfeller> you still use apt-get, but a portion of your actually dl would come from other users adn then checked against the md5 sums
[10:36] <pussfeller> it would be slower, probably...
[10:36] <BazziR> incremental updates would be a start
[10:36] <BazziR> bsdiff *does* exist :)
[10:36] <Zaire> slower well yea probably and then it would be a matter of recoding the apt-get function aswell
[10:37] <pussfeller> with bt tho, unless its been changed, every file needs a torrent which could be unmanageably complex
[10:37] <aitor> hi
[10:38] <aitor> I found a problem since updated last friday to Dapper
[10:38] <aitor> flash movies randomly play or don't play sound in firefox
[10:38] <Zaire> not entirely the files could be added to other torrent sites such as mininova and piratebay and places like that wouldn't be that complex I would think
[10:38] <crimsun> aitor: install alsa-oss from universe, and use ``aoss firefox''
[10:39] <BazziR> Zaire: that'd be too much overhead, really.
[10:39] <BazziR> there are like 18000 packages
[10:39] <aitor> crimsum, as Firefox start command?
[10:39] <BazziR> and bt wont work for people behind strict firewall policies
[10:39] <pussfeller> it would have to be a deamon  that kept track of who had what somehow
[10:39] <crimsun> aitor: that's precisely the command.
[10:39] <BazziR> incremental updates is the way to go.
[10:40] <aitor> ok, I'l try it, thanks
[10:40] <Zaire> I use torrent for getting different distros of linux and Im behind a router and have strict policies
[10:40] <pussfeller> what do you mean BazziR
[10:40] <BazziR> pussfeller: binary diffs of the packages
[10:40] <Zaire> plus I don't port forward either
[10:40] <pussfeller> ah, where only the parts that are changed are dled and somehow merged?
[10:41] <BazziR> yes
[10:41] <pussfeller> like a par2 file :)
[10:41] <BazziR> or rtp :)
[10:42] <Zaire> damn Im know nothing about coding and I get that lol
[10:42] <aitor> crimsun, seems to work
[10:42] <aitor> many thanks
[10:43] <Zaire> I hope alot more work is done on Xubuntu anyway it seems to be very versitile and shows alot of promise
[10:43] <pussfeller> that is a pretty cool idea
[10:43] <pussfeller> you could save a ton of bandwidth
[10:43] <aitor> Zaire what desktop Manager does Xubuntu use?
[10:44] <Zaire> xfce
[10:44] <aitor> oh cool, heard many good things about xfce, though I've never tried it
[10:44] <pussfeller> but then people would have to keep the debs for it to work, longer then they would to just at least give back some of the bandwitch by a p2p system
[10:44] <Zaire> its not that bad other then there arent alot of programs installed on it but thats easy enough to fix and its compatibility seems to be enhanced
[10:45] <BazziR> pussfeller: if you reduce updates from 70mb to 7mb theres hardly much use for p2p
[10:45] <BazziR> people should rather seed the full cd/dvd torrents
[10:45] <Zaire> you mean theres still a use for p2p lol
[10:45] <pussfeller> but they have to keep all those debs around forever
[10:46] <BazziR> pussfeller, not necessarily.
[10:46] <BazziR> depends on if the diffs are on the debs or on the installed files.
[10:46] <pussfeller> hmmm
[10:46] <BazziR> for the latter I'd have the fear of more errors
[10:47] <BazziR> and the further would have the people keep the debs
[10:47] <BazziR> but a 56k user might still rather want to keep debs and download less
[10:47] <Zaire> oh yea and another cool thing with Xubuntu is it boots as a live cd and for installing it you just click on the install icon on the desktop and you can browse the net while you install it lol
[10:47] <pussfeller> and i suppse if bw was an issue for the end user, he would be glad to sacrifice the extra space
[10:48] <pussfeller> yeah, what you said :)
[10:49] <Zaire> now I wonder if I will be able to install UT 2004 lol
[10:49] <BazziR> I tested it, works, Zaire
[10:49] <BazziR> though it is a bit sucky :/
[10:50] <BazziR> (the installer at least)
[10:50] <Zaire> really Ive had such a hard time finding a version of linux that it works with
[10:50] <Zaire> redhat has good video for it but lacks the audio which I can't play it without audio
[10:51] <BazziR> what sort of system do you have?
[10:52] <Zaire> sempron64 3100+ 768 megs of ram 160 gig HD Nvidia Fx 5200 foxconn mobo totally custom modded case
[10:52] <pussfeller> Sysinfo for 'hokage': Linux 2.6.15-23-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Pentium III (Coppermine) at 601 MHz (1203 bogomips), HD: 213/226GB, RAM: 279/375MB, 101 proc's, 4.55h up
[10:52] <BazziR> mmmh
[10:53] <Zaire> ouch 601 Mhz lol thats lower the my hyper transport lol
[10:53] <pussfeller> it ran like frozen sludge on my system
[10:53] <pussfeller> this is my flagship box
[10:53] <pussfeller> the pride of my fleet L)
[10:53] <Zaire> my proc cost me 140 bux mother baord $74 and ram $52
[10:54] <BazziR> I wont start with my system's specs then ;)
[10:54] <Zaire> really high lol I plan on building a new box soon
[10:55] <Zaire> its gonna have an  athlon64 dual core 4800+
[10:55] <pussfeller> if i hsdnt gotten a ticket the other day, i was going to buy an hp with dual 4200's and i think 2gs of ram for like 802 if i remember right
[10:55] <BazziR> my next horse will be core 2 duo powered :) bye bye AMD for this time
[10:56] <Qrawl> Mark Shuttleworth uses.... Kubuntu
[10:56] <Zaire> tsk tsk my excuse is Im unemployed lol
[10:56] <pussfeller> as well he should, its the bestest
[10:56] <Qrawl> Linus Torvalds uses.... KDE
[10:56] <Qrawl> KDE is best for beginners
[10:56] <BazziR> since when does mark shuttleworth use KDE?
[10:56] <Qrawl> I think KDE should be the default Window
[10:56] <Zaire> kde good but kubuntu unstable on my system so Im using xfce
[10:57] <pussfeller> yes, gnome needs to go the way of the dodo
[10:57] <Qrawl> BazziR, hold on, I'll get you a link
[10:57] <BazziR> he seems to be a bit moody :P
[10:57] <linux_galore> I use KDE and Ive been running Unix for years
[10:57] <linux_galore> 1983
[10:57] <linux_galore> I find gnome is more for newbies
[10:57] <pussfeller> gnome is the one for beginners
[10:57] <Zaire> brb gonna try installing my vidcard driver again lol
[10:58] <BazziR> kde can be *very* frustrating though
[10:58] <pussfeller> gnome is "easier" cause there is less choices
[10:58] <linux_galore> BazziR: never had an issue with it once i read up on how it all works
[10:58] <pussfeller> it seems to be faster too
[10:59] <_Pete_> pussfeller: In my machine I think there's little or no difference in speed between KDE / Gnome
[10:59] <Blizzz> is it (still?) true that kubuntu can read only from NTFS-partitions?
[10:59] <BazziR> linux_galore: the usability/accessibility of some programs is near zero. I have high hopes of KDE4 unifying and simplifying lots of the GUI...
[10:59] <linux_galore> been using kde now since 1.0 came out
[10:59] <Zaire> well that one bombed lol
[11:00] <pussfeller> nautilus loads new windows much faster than kde does for me
[11:00] <linux_galore> BazziR:  ?? whats zero
[11:00] <BazziR> 0 ;)
[11:00] <Zaire> its still asking for the kernel tree and I just installed the only file names kernel tree lol
[11:00] <pussfeller> why does gnome get all the love
[11:00] <linux_galore> pussfeller: thats because you didnt have the pre loader turned on in kde
[11:00] <pussfeller> WHY
[11:00] <linux_galore> pussfeller: for me konquror opens in less than 1 second
[11:00] <Qrawl> BazziR, babies born on 6-6-6 will definitely be in danger
[11:00] <Qrawl> OOPS
[11:00] <Qrawl> wrong post
[11:01] <Qrawl> LOLOL
[11:01] <Qrawl> http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-commitment.php
[11:01] <Qrawl> that last quote was from the politics channel
[11:01] <Zaire> is the glx driver for the nvidia as good as the actual driver -_-
[11:02] <pussfeller> where you turn it on linux_galore
[11:02] <Qrawl> "In his opening remarks at the start of the conference Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth announced that he was now using Kubuntu on his desktop machine and said he wanted Kubuntu to move to a first class distribution within the Ubuntu community. "
[11:02] <Zaire> is the glx driver for the nvidia as good as the actual driver -_-
[11:03] <pussfeller> you mean the opensource one?
[11:03] <pussfeller> no
[11:03] <pussfeller> theres a politics channel here
[11:04] <linux_galore> pussfeller:  open konquoror Settings -> Configure Konqueror -.> left window pane go to the bottom were it has the performance icon click on it then on the right mark "Pre Load Konquorer" and set it to 2
[11:04] <Zaire> I can't get the actual nvidia driver to install despite getting all of the necessary files
[11:04] <dm_> Hello, I installed Kubuntu 6.06 and am still looking for a good Viewer for G4 compressed multipage TIFFs. Must have: zooming with interpolation and thumbnails of the pages (on the left). Gwenview can't do this, kfaxview crashes on start (SIGSEGV 11). evince is ncie but can't read from samba shares. What program do I have to install?
[11:05] <Qrawl> What do you mean Gwenview cant do that
[11:05] <linux_galore> dm_: kview should work
[11:05] <pussfeller> thanks linux_galore
[11:06] <dm_> linux_galore: I'll try ...
[11:06] <pussfeller> kuickshow?
[11:06] <Zaire> actually oddly enough the nvidia driver did mention something about going to whatever site or something for redhat rpms
[11:07] <linux_galore> isnt there a univarsal image viewer called nview
[11:07] <linux_galore> opens anything
[11:07] <dm_> pussfeller: Can't find kuickshow in apt.
[11:07] <salvo> good morning everybody
[11:08] <Qrawl> I think I tried NViewer but it didnt show up anywhere
[11:08] <Zaire> thats it I have got to get an ATI
[11:08] <pussfeller> what happemed to kuickshow
[11:09] <Qrawl> no, I installed GImageView, and it didnt show up anywhere after installing it
[11:09] <buz> !kopete
[11:09] <ubotu> Kopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org
[11:09] <pussfeller> ati is far worse...
[11:09] <BazziR> Zaire: Ati and linux is fire and water
[11:09] <dm_> searching nview only returns gwenview an pornview  :-O
[11:09] <linux_galore> xnview -> http://perso.orange.fr/pierre.g/xnview/enxnview.html
[11:09] <Zaire> dunno a friend of mine runs kubuntu stable on his X800
[11:09] <pussfeller> you installing from restricted-modules-386?
[11:09] <BazziR> buz: I'm sure jriddell will build one
[11:09] <buz> ok cool
[11:09] <Qrawl> when I used Windows, I used IrfanView.  that was a great programm
[11:09] <buz> so i wont pollute my system with a custom build ;)
[11:10] <dh> Is a Linux IRC Chat Program, instead of Tab like KOnversation, it has Windows... ?
[11:11] <linux_galore> dh: I use gaim
[11:11] <dh> !Codec
[11:11] <ubotu> dh: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:11] <dh> !Codecs
[11:11] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[11:11] <pussfeller> ksirc used windows iirc
[11:12] <dh> What is the URL KSIRC ?
[11:13] <dm_> I tested KView for viewing the Images. It's like Gwenview: It only opens the first page (and the interpolation is way too slow!).
[11:13] <Zaire> I like irc xchat when I can actually get it to work lol
[11:13] <buz> dh: use adept to install ksirc
[11:15] <dh> WinRAR for Linux is free ?
[11:15] <Qrawl> dm_, what do you mean by interpolation
[11:15] <Qrawl> smoothing?
[11:15] <Zaire> graphical smoothing in otherwords
[11:16] <Qrawl> GwenView does that just fine
[11:17] <linux_galore> http://www.kvirc.net/
[11:17] <dm_> Qrawl: If the the Image is 3500 px high but your screen only 768 it has to interpolate ...
[11:17] <Qrawl> ok
[11:17] <dm_> Yes gwenviews interpolation is smooth and quick but it cant open those files
[11:18] <Qrawl> what do you mean it cant open them
[11:18] <Qrawl> too much memory eating?
[11:18] <Zaire> mount command says spcify filesystem when I try to mount the cdrom
[11:18] <dm_> It only shows me the first page and no thumbnails (like the pdf viewers or evince do)
[11:20] <dm_> XnView is not free.
[11:20] <Qrawl> oh, multipage tiffs
[11:21] <dm_> I think evince is closest but cant open the files directly from konqueror showing a samba shared folder
[11:21] <pussfeller> what happened to kuickshow?
[11:21] <pussfeller> i used to read my mangas in that
[11:21] <pussfeller> now, its like it has been purged from history
[11:22] <Qrawl> Comic book viewers are good for manga
[11:22] <Qrawl> theres a comic book viewer in the repos
[11:22] <Zaire> damnit why can't I mount the cdrom drive
[11:22] <pussfeller> i used to run one in wine that was awesome
[11:22] <Qrawl> CDisplay?
[11:23] <Qrawl> thats the main Windows one
[11:23] <tony_> what's the quickest way to get thin clients booting from a kubuntu server?
[11:23] <dh> Thanks Linux_Galore KVirc is what I was looking for :D
[11:23] <tony_> Is the easiest way to install edubuntu? (is there a KDE-based edubuntu?)
[11:23] <heinkel_111> do I need an MSN passport to get msn working with kopete?
[11:24] <pussfeller> 'yeah cdisply
[11:26] <pussfeller> kuickshow didnt handle rars and zips tho
[11:26] <pussfeller> zips maybe
[11:26] <dm_> tony_: Try ltsp-server-standalone
[11:27] <Zaire> ok is keeps telling em that I am required to specify the filesystem type when I go to mount the cdrom -_- wth is goin on
[11:27] <anymous> hello on http://kubuntu.org/faq.php there is a broken link to  InstallingKDE pointing to http://www.kubuntu.org/InstallingKDE which should be https://wiki.kubuntu.org/InstallingKDE
[11:27] <pussfeller> did you install kubuntu-desktop?
[11:27] <buz> shouldnt ubotu point users asking about codecs etc to easyubuntu?
[11:27] <pussfeller> i had probs with my mounts until then
[11:27] <tony_> dm_: from the kubuntu install disc, or edubuntu?
[11:28] <pussfeller> they don't seem to like easyubuntu and automatix
[11:28] <buz> easyubuntu 3.0 works like a charm
[11:28] <buz> i didnt like the prior version either
[11:28] <Zaire> -_- I put a cd in with mp3 backups of one of my cd's that was totaled in a cdrom drive accident and it auto mounted
[11:30] <pussfeller> tony_: from apt-get
[11:30] <pussfeller> its a program to run thin clients
[11:30] <pussfeller> well, the program
[11:31] <dh> I tried isntalling kvirc and got errors.
[11:31] <dh>  kvirc depends on kvirc-data (>= 2:3.0.0); however:
[11:31] <dh>   Package kvirc-data is not installed.
[11:31] <dm_> tony_: Install whatever you like on the server. Then install ltsp, run the build-client script (loads another 300 MB ubuntu into /opt/ltsp), run the dhcp3 and nfs daemon and boot your client from PXE or an Etherboot disk/usb/hd/cd/...
[11:32] <bhna> kdm in kde 3.5.3 lost the borders around the name and password. how can i change this?
[11:32] <tony_> thanks. I misunderstood - thought you mean "choose ltsp-standalone" as an install option
[11:32] <bhna> and the systray icons are in one line.
[11:35] <Zaire> well igtg i'll prob be back on again tomorrow though with more issues lol
[11:39] <buz> uhm is it just me or is the rss stream on kubuntu.org really totally broken?
[11:39] <dm_> tony_: If your client cant boot from PXE, you can create a 64k boot image for floppy, hd, eeprom ... on http://rom-o-matic.net/
[11:41] <prxq> hi. is cryptetup / dm-crypt no longer in kubuntu? or do I have to set special apt sources?
[11:41] <dm_> universe
[11:42] <dm_> tony_: If you face the problem that some clients (connected e. g. only with 10 Mbit) need about 20 mins to boot then the nfs mount of its root fs fails because of too big udp blocksize. Then you have to add a kernel cmd line with some NFSOPTS to the dhcpd.conf file or (for PXE) pxelinux.cfg/default
[11:42] <dh> I am trying to install KVIrc using the .DEB package but I get errors.
[11:42] <prxq> dm_: I see
[11:42] <dh> dpkg -i kvirc3_3.0.1-2_i386.deb
[11:42] <dh> That is the command line for it right ?
[11:44] <slow-motion> re
[11:45] <neutrinomass> I tried to install kde with 'sudo apt-get install kde' and it fails at knetworkconf : http://pastebin.com/757250
[11:46] <prxq> dm_: indeed. thanks
[11:46] <tony_> dm_ thanks for the info - I'm trying to setup ltsp on dapper to replace my current bastardised breezy server / knoppix booting client, that then accesses the server via the nx client...
[11:46] <dh> I just found a easier way to install a .DEB. lol
[11:47] <robin> Hi, I missing a "show background" icon in the taskbar, so I can switch fast between the desktop and the running applications. How do can add this icon ?
[11:47] <dm_> tony_: Then ltsp should be fine ;-)
[11:48] <tony_> will be interesting to see the speed diff (if any) between plain X and NX
[11:49] <robin> nevermind I have found it :)
[11:53] <_thomas> hi, jemand da, der mir mit dapper probs helfen kann?
[11:53] <dm_> tony_: I never tried NX (BTW: ubuntu's ltsp uses X over ssh)
[11:54] <dm_> _thomas: There's an #kubuntu-de
[11:54] <weedar> _thomas: try #ubuntu-de for german ubuntu channel, otherwise use english here
[11:54] <weedar> yeah, what dm_ said :)
[11:54] <_thomas> oh sorry, I thought, this was the german list...
[11:55] <tony_> dm_: nx is nice over slow links, but this is 100Mbps LAN - so probably little difference
[11:55] <dm_> How does NX work, like vnc?
[11:56] <tony_> from what I understand, it's a compression and round-trip elimination layer over top of X
[11:57] <tony_> but yeah, you use it just like vnc (or an rdc client)
[11:58] <equinoxeB> Hi guys
[11:59] <equinoxeB> I've compiled and made a deb pack for kopete 0.12
[11:59] <equinoxeB> where should I put it?
[11:59] <linux_galore> equinoxeB: put it on www.kde-apps.org
[11:59] <equinoxeB> ok...
[11:59] <equinoxeB> it is for dapper
[12:00] <equinoxeB> I do not know if it works on breezy...or others
[12:00] <linux_galore> equinoxeB: yes people often post distro specific packages
[12:03] <Steven_M> hi all
[12:04] <_thomas> hi, I have some problems with running apache2 on dapper
[12:04] <_thomas> anyone here who might know something?
[12:04] <_thomas> its not running since a few weeks.
[12:05] <Phlogistique> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start ?
[12:05] <_thomas> it gives an failure like " Illegal instruction     $HTTPD -k start -DSSL" when starting with /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[12:06] <Steven_M> Is there anyway of reinstalling grub from the dapper LTS desktop cd, without reinstalling my whole system?
[12:06] <equinoxeB> I can't load kopete 0.12.deb on kde-apps. the package has 8 Mb...
[12:06] <_thomas> I reinstalled apache2 completely new, but the failure stays
[12:06] <cfraz89> Steven_M: man grub-install
[12:07] <afm\colossus> hello there once again :)
[12:07] <afm\colossus> i'd like to get rid of KDE's spell checker (in konqueror, at least) - is there any way to do this?
[12:07] <equinoxeB> anyone... WHERE SHOULD I UPLOAD KOPETE 0.12 deb package -> it has 8 Mb  :((
[12:08] <equinoxeB> on kde-apps I can only upload 750 Kb
[12:09] <erofee> hi all
[12:12] <equinoxeB> I have kopete 0.12.... voice... web cam... :|. deb package. don;t know where to upload it...
[12:12] <equinoxeB> I could make a torrent for it...
[12:12] <equinoxeB> :(
[12:13] <cfraz89> equinoxeB: submit it to kopete people?
[12:13] <equinoxeB> where???
[12:13] <equinoxeB> :(
[12:13] <equinoxeB> you mean... contact them...give them the file...?
[12:13] <equinoxeB> :|
[12:14] <prxq> hi. Is there something in kubuntu which does the same as fancontrol?
[12:15] <CaptainMorgan> can firefox and xchat run in kubuntu?
[12:15] <buz> firefox for sure
[12:15] <weedar> Yes CaptainMorgan
[12:15] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[12:15] <cfraz89> equinoxeB: well the packages are hosted on sourceforge
[12:15] <cfraz89> there must be contacts there
[12:16] <buz> equinoxeB: no #kopete on freenode?
[12:16] <CaptainMorgan> wow.. Im really liking Kubuntu...
[12:16] <cfraz89>    dmacvica at users.sourceforge.net
[12:16] <cfraz89> is kopete admin
[12:16] <cfraz89> one
[12:19] <equinoxeB> then I should upload it to sourceforge?
[12:19] <equinoxeB> can I do that?
[12:20] <CaptainMorgan> how do I do basic installs? I tried to download firefox and upon extracting came up with errors...
[12:20] <equinoxeB> without someone to ckeck it?
[12:20] <buz> CaptainMorgan: start adept
[12:20] <CaptainMorgan> oh... k's version of synaptic in ubuntu?
[12:21] <buz> more or less
[12:21] <buz> you can always use apt-get itself of course
[12:22] <CaptainMorgan> took me awhile to find the terminal... :)
[12:29] <equinoxeB> http://www.esnips.com/doc/735f3b5a-6087-450c-b242-d79b1ea8fb57/kopete_5.0.12-1_dapper_i386.deb
[12:29] <equinoxeB> needs  account
[12:29] <equinoxeB> :|
[12:31] <neutrinomass> I tried installing kde with 'sudo apt-get install kde' , but knetwork fails: http://pastebin.com/757250
[12:31] <jpatrick> neutrinomass: looks messy
[12:31] <method|> anyone get a boot error when trying to boot from the desktop disc?
[12:32] <method|> it's happened to be on the kubuntu disc but not the ubuntu disc
[12:32] <neutrinomass> jpatrick: It is. apt-get install -f doesn't fix it, and deps are failing all over the place afterwards ...
[12:33] <jpatrick> neutrinomass: I think it's dpkg -i --overwrite=all something
[12:33] <method|> anyone have this trouble?
[12:34] <neutrinomass> jpatrick: Doesn't work, no such option to dpkg (I quickly looked at the manpage as well )
[12:35] <equinoxeB> http://www.esnips.com/web/equinoxeBsOtherStuff
[12:35] <equinoxeB> get koepte 0.12
[12:35] <equinoxeB> :)
[12:35] <equinoxeB> kopete
[12:36] <jpatrick> neutrinomass: sudo dpkg -i -force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/knetworkconf_4%3a3.5.2-0ubuntu8_i386.deb
[12:36] <jpatrick> that's two -- for force
[12:37] <neutrinomass> jpatrick: Weird ... it worked
[12:37] <jpatrick> I rule
[12:37] <jpatrick> ;)
[12:38] <method|> can anyone help?
[12:38] <method|> is the kubuntu desktop disk flawed?
[12:38] <method|> cause the ubuntu disk works perfectly
[12:38] <jpatrick> method|: I didn't use the install CD's, sorry
[12:38] <method|> :/
[12:38] <method|> ok
[12:39] <jpatrick> I already had Dapper for 5 months
[12:39] <tony_> methodj: my first download of the iso (via torrent) had the wrong md5 sum
[12:39] <method|> aaah man
[12:39] <weedar> that is very weird tony_, torrents are supposed to do hash-checking while you download
[12:40] <neutrinomass> jpatrick: Thanks :)
[12:40] <method|> i wanted to try kubuntu out before i installed it
[12:40] <method|> tonight that is
[12:40] <method|> errr morning now
[12:40] <tony_> corrupt torrents have happened to me a few times - starting to think that it's breezy's ktorrent?
[12:41] <jpatrick> neutrinomass: no problem
[12:41] <CaptainMorgan> anyway I can change display resolution? it's stuck only on one setting and lists no others.. 1400 x 1050.. and it doesn't even seem like that's accurate.. seems more like 1048x768 or soemthing...
[12:43] <neutrinomass> CaptainMorgan: You'll probably have to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.  Please file a bug report as well :) (attach everything listed on step 5 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingXAutoconfiguration)
[12:44] <neutrinomass> CaptainMorgan: Before running that, be sure to back up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:46] <Memorice> hey
[12:47] <Memorice> I've a problem by installing kubuntu 6.06
[12:47] <Memorice> I get a black (empty) screen during the installation
[12:48] <Memorice> I'm trying to install it on a notebook (Acer Aspire 1692WLMI, ATI RADEON X700)
[12:48] <Memorice> the screen went black after I chose Start or install kubuntu
[12:48] <adma> hello! :)
[12:49] <Memorice> I saw a load bar and that the drivers where loading and after that the screen goes black
[12:49] <Memorice> what can I do now?
[12:49] <CaptainMorgan> check to see if you system is compatible
[12:49] <adma> have you checked the dick for errors?
[12:49] <adma> *disc
[12:50] <adma> sorry... :S
[12:50] <Memorice> yes the disc is correct
[12:50] <Memorice> and how can I see if my system is compatible?
[12:50] <adma> strange...what is your system-config?
[12:50] <Memorice> Acer Aspire 1692WLMI
[12:51] <jpatrick> how does one see how much space is left? (cmd-line style)
[12:52] <adma> what is your current os then?
[12:52] <neutrinomass> jpatrick: 'df -h'
[12:52] <Memorice> win xp
[12:53] <jpatrick> neutrinomass: thank you
[12:53] <askinsonhecesi> hello
[12:53] <adma> okay...I just installed kubuntu on my Acer laptop yesterday and the same error uccured to me then...I just tried a few times and finally it worked!
[12:54] <jpatrick> http://pastebin.com/757347 <- ah that's good
[12:54] <askinsonhecesi>  a
[12:54] <Memorice> I've tried many times (I guess more than 10) and all the time the same error
[12:54] <jpatrick> askinsonhecesi: hello
[12:54] <Memorice> very annoying and the problem is, I've never worked before with linux
[12:55] <Memorice> so I don't know what to do...
[12:56] <adma> I am also pretty new with linux but your system shold be capable of running it...maybe there is a driver conflict?
[12:56] <neutrinomass> Memorice: Have you tried the alternate install CD ?
[12:56] <Memorice> no, what is the alternate install cd?
[12:56] <adma> good idea... :)
[12:58] <Memorice> it takes a long time to download it here :(
[12:58] <Memorice> don't have my normal 100 mbit connection :(
[12:59] <adma> The alternate install CD allows you to perform certain specialist installations of Kubuntu. It provides for the following situations:
[12:59] <adma> setting up automated deployments;
[12:59] <adma> upgrading from older installations without network access;
[12:59] <adma> LVM and/or RAID partitioning;
[12:59] <adma> installing GRUB to a location other than the Master Boot Record;
[12:59] <adma> installs on systems with less than about 192MB of RAM.
[12:59] <Memorice> I've read that already, but thanks :)
[12:59] <adma> heh okay...sorry :P
[12:59] <neutrinomass> Memorice: Sorry, I don't know what else to suggest. You must file a bug at Launchpad though ... (probably against Xorg)
[01:00] <adma> my problem is that I cannot install any programs :S fx. firefox...
[01:00] <Memorice> I've tried to go to a console (ctrl+alt+f1)
[01:00] <Memorice> and then stop kdm
[01:00] <Memorice> reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:00] <Memorice> and then start kdm again
[01:00] <Memorice> but it didn't work
[01:01] <Memorice> (I've chosen the default settings by reconfigure the xserver)
[01:01] <Memorice> btw, does it change anything when I install ubuntu in stead of kubuntu?
[01:01] <buz> can anyone recommend a PAL tv card that will work with ubuntu for sure?
[01:02] <Memorice> or will I still have the same problem
[01:02] <buz> i have a wintv but it doesnt work, picture's always green
[01:04] <kronoz> ergh, kubuntu's default gtkqt engine is ugly in ff
[01:05] <equinoxeB> Kopete 0.12 deb package Dapper . use --force-overwrite to install: http://www.esnips.com/doc/735f3b5a-6087-450c-b242-d79b1ea8fb57/kopete_5.0.12-1_dapper_i386.deb
[01:07] <adma> back again...
[01:07] <slow-motion> bbl
[01:08] <adma> as I said before...how do I install Firefox on Kubuntu?
[01:08] <equinoxeB> apt-get install firefox. or get it with adept
[01:08] <adma> and as said before...I'm a complete newbie :)
[01:08] <afm\colo> like anything else, using your package manager
[01:08] <adma> where do I find it?
[01:09] <uniq> adma: kmenu -> add/remove programs
[01:09] <adma> then what?
[01:10] <afm\colo> just poke around
[01:10] <afm\colo> it's not that hard, now is it?
[01:10] <uniq> adma: you'll get asked for your password, then in the search field type 'firefox', in the drop-down-menu to the right of the search field choose 'Any suite' and firefox will pop up in the results.
[01:11] <adma> great! :D thanks...
[01:11] <kronoz> adma, kmenu > system > adept > enter your password > search: firefox > right click firefox > request install > apply
[01:12] <adma> sorry for me being such a n00b but I only started usin Linux yesterday...
[01:12] <adma> got it downloading now! ;)
[01:13] <adma> another question...where are all programs stored?
[01:14] <kronoz> adma, unlike windows various places
[01:15] <kronoz> adma, to find out where an app is installed open konsole and type, 'whereis firefox' or some other program
[01:15] <adma> so how do I install flash in kubuntu? have had no luck so far...
[01:15] <adma> ah okay...
[01:15] <kronoz> !easysource
[01:15] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:15] <equinoxeB> adma: fist though you need to run updatedb... for whereis...
[01:16] <adma> so the new programs are recognized?
[01:16] <uniq> adma: beeing new to linux is nothing to be sorry for, everyone is, the first time :)
[01:16] <adma> yup :)
[01:17] <kronoz> is there a packge which hass all the ubuntu dev gpg keys?
[01:17] <dh> I am looking for IRC Chat Client which has windows. instead of tabs
[01:17] <kronoz> adding them manually gets boring and i've lost my script to do it for me
[01:17] <kronoz> dh, xchat?
[01:18] <dh> I think that is tabed for linux
[01:18] <PPower> does anybody here know any good icom ic706 rig control software for linux? there is none that work in the repos
[01:21] <dh> EDIJUS: Yeah ?
[01:21] <adma> how do I install flash in firefox?
[01:22] <dh> Download flash anf the README.TXT is helpfull.
[01:22] <Blizzz> im afraid i forgot, but i worked...
[01:23] <asn> just click it where the flash not work
[01:25] <uniq> adma: for flash support: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[01:26] <uniq> adma: there is also alot of other usefull information on that page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:29] <asn> what's the difference from ubuntu Desktop and server
[01:29] <pekay> anyone know a good bandiwidth monitor? :[
[01:29] <pekay> bandwidthd, ant got a clue how that works
[01:29] <Hobbsee> asn: one includes the ubuntu-desktop, the other doesnt (ie, no X)
[01:30] <uniq> asn: only the programs installed.
[01:30] <uniq> pekay: for console or graphical?
[01:30] <asn> thx
[01:30] <pekay> uniq: any :p
[01:30] <pekay> one that workss preferably ;P
[01:30] <uniq> pekay: i like 'iptraf' for console.
[01:31] <adma> how do I make Thunderbird and Firefox the default mail and webclient?
[01:31] <uniq> pekay: i also use 'nload'
[01:31] <uniq> pekay: and you can try 'bwm'
[01:31] <dh> adma: K Meni --> System Settings --> KDE Components
[01:32] <uniq> adma: kmenu - system settings -> kde components -> default applications
[01:32] <asn> and how can I write a source
[01:32] <asn> give a example
[01:33] <adma> thx :D
[01:33] <uniq> asn: a source as in what?
[01:33] <asn> sources.list
[01:34] <uniq> !easysource
[01:34] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:36] <asn> yeah,it's good
[01:36] <uniq> it's very good.
[01:38] <adma> I see now that flash is not supported 100% on my AMD64 processor :S how do I proceed now?
[01:39] <pekay> uniq:
[01:39] <h3sp4wn> !schroot
[01:39] <ubotu> h3sp4wn: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:39] <pekay> oops
[01:39] <pekay> uniq: aha nload seems good, does it save the bandwidth used?
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> adma: You can either install a 32 bit chroot and setup schroot to give you seemless access to 32 bit programs or install 32bit
[01:41] <adma> what about gplflash? can I use that and how do I install it?
[01:41] <pekay> uniq: meh, im gonna reboot anyway, thanks :] 
[01:46] <vinboy> .
[01:46] <uniq> pekay: don't think so, to save the bandwith used i recommend 'vnstat'.
[01:47] <uniq> pekay: for vnstat info: http://humdi.net/vnstat/ (it can be downloaded from apt)
[01:54] <kronoz> !avi
[01:54] <ubotu> well, avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:54] <afm\colo> no
[01:54] <afm\colo> avi = audio/video-interleave
[01:54] <afm\colo> a container format
[01:54] <afm\colo> and this says NOTHING about the incorporated video or audio codecs
[01:59] <equinoxeB> don;t forget about kopete 0.12... dapper deb pack:
[01:59] <equinoxeB> http://www.esnips.com/web/equinoxeBsOtherStuff
[02:00] <cfraz89> thanks equinoxeB!
[02:01] <dh> Can I convert a NTFS Partition into EXT3?
[02:01] <ctothej> Whats the main difference between java 1.4 and java 5 (in linux i mean)? Are they both required?
[02:01] <uniq> dh: no.
[02:02] <uniq> ctothej: java 5 is a newer (and better) version.
[02:02] <dh> How can I move my files over?
[02:02] <equinoxeB> dh: I have my ntfs part munted in r/w mode
[02:02] <uniq> equinoxeb: please do not recommend installing things that need --force options to install.
[02:02] <pekay> uniq: aha thanks mate, thats really what I need ;)
[02:02] <jpatrick> equinoxeB: bad idea
[02:02] <equinoxeB> uniq: it is not a major thing
[02:03] <equinoxeB> jpatrick: with fuse utils
[02:03] <equinoxeB> jpatrick: not with kernel suport
[02:03] <jpatrick> ok
[02:03] <Davidosky> Hi all
[02:03] <uniq> equinoxeb: most problems are minor, but the consequences when you do not know how to resolve them can become major.
[02:03] <ctothej> why can i not run java when only version 5 is installed?
[02:05] <equinoxeB> uniq: maybe I had to --force-overwite only on my system
[02:05] <ctothej> or better yet, how can I set java 5 as the one the OS uses by default?
[02:05] <equinoxeB> uniq: the deb pack generated without any errors
[02:05] <dusty> Anyone here setup successfully, dual monitors using onboard graphics card and an AGP graphics card?
[02:06] <Davidosky> Is there someone that can explain how connect a Nokia 6630 with an USB cable? (i need to manage it...)
[02:06] <ctothej> dusty: i set up dual monitors on an ati card. the layout of xorg.conf will be similar.
[02:06] <ctothej> dusty: ill pastebin mine if you think it would help
[02:09] <dusty> Yes that would be of great help, plus I have a quick question...
[02:10] <dusty> I put the AGP card in, plugged the monitors in, and then booted up. It loaded but the onboard graphcis card with the monitor plugged into it (usually my main display) never came on at all, not even flickered and the AGP one did, any ideas?
[02:13] <voicu> hi, i have just installed fglrx and every 5 seconds the computer hangs for a second. can someone help me with this?
[02:13] <ctothej> dusty: im confused, the AGP card has 2 vga outputs right?
[02:13] <ctothej> or just 1?
[02:13] <_rince_> mrgn
[02:13] <voicu> the 3d acceleration now works ok (except for the hangs, of course)
[02:13] <dusty> just one
[02:14] <dusty> the agp card has one output with one monitor plugged in, the other monitor is plugged into the onboard video.
[02:14] <ctothej> dusty: oh ok.. i think your motherboard is choosing which output to use. 1 or the other. but not allowing both.
[02:14] <dusty> hrm ok
[02:14] <dusty> how do i fix it
[02:14] <ctothej> update motherboard bios, check motherboard settings...
[02:15] <dusty> I did it let em select between PCI/AGP
[02:15] <ctothej> maybe another setting for which is primary. set all the video settings manually, dont select options with 'auto'
[02:16] <dusty> hmm
[02:16] <dusty> ok
[02:16] <ctothej> you should send an e-mail to your motherboard manufacturer tech dept
[02:16] <dusty> lemme reboot and have a look
[02:16] <ctothej> ok
[02:17] <_Pete_> anyone here using kzenexplorer ? It's used to transfer musicfiles  to creative zen player...
[02:18] <Buckbeak> I'm currently install kubuntu and the installer has got stuck on "Scanning the mirror..." 1%.  Anyone know whats going on?
[02:18] <azathoth> anyone know why the flashplayer plugin in firefox won't play sound?
[02:18] <henning_> anyone know why amarok just skips my mp3s instead of playing them?
[02:19] <ctothej> henning_: you need to install mp3 codecs. they arent installed by default due to legal issues
[02:19] <_Pete_> azathoth: guess, something has reserved the audio device and your soundcard don't do HW-mixing allowing multiple programs to access it at a time
[02:19] <ctothej> !restricted
[02:19] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:19] <kronoz> henning_, probably because you don't have the codecs for mp3 playback in amarok
[02:19] <henning_> but xmms can play, okay i will check the codec thing
[02:19] <ctothej> !FreeFormats
[02:19] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[02:20] <_Pete_> I have the exactly the same problem as henning has
[02:20] <azathoth> _Pete_: i was just listening to amarok and it was playing fine, i paused it (which releases the audio) and my flash doesn't play sound
[02:20] <ctothej> _Pete_: check the links i just posted
[02:20] <_Pete_> ctothej: I have checked them already
[02:20] <ctothej> oh
[02:20] <azathoth> completely closing out of amaroK didn't fix it either
[02:20] <_Pete_> and did exactly what they say
[02:20] <ctothej> what players have you used?
[02:21] <_Pete_> azathoth: maybe some kind of sound demon (arts or so) is still reserved the audio
[02:21] <_Pete_> ctothej: me ?
[02:21] <ctothej> yep
[02:21] <_Pete_> I can play mp3 with xmms/beep-media-player/vlc fine
[02:21] <_Pete_> but no luck with amarok
[02:23] <kronoz> !mp3
[02:23] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:23] <Blizzz> amarok is working fine here, i think i just searched for codecs by synaptic, but thats long ago
[02:24] <abloylas> henning_: amarok needs libxine-extracodecs for mp3
[02:24] <dusty> ctothej, I can't find that option in the bios or anything that might help.  Do you think its just because I don't have both cards configured.. I noticed when i did lspci with the agp card in, i couldn't see the onboard one.?
[02:24] <kronoz> why does kmplayer default to the xine engine :S
[02:24] <abloylas> henning_: it's a bug in ubuntu packaging
[02:24] <ctothej> dusty: do you see the boot sequence on both monitors when booting?
[02:25] <Fillado> does anyone have any experience with setting up gkrellm for monitoring CPU temps?
[02:25] <gil_> will someone help me get suspend mode working on my toshiba laptop
[02:25] <abloylas> _Pete_:  amarok needs libxine-extracodecs for mp3
[02:25] <gil_> i cant get it to resume...just locks up on me!
[02:25] <dusty> ctothej, no nothing appears on the other monitor
[02:26] <henning_> abloylas cant find that package
[02:26] <jeekl> Hi, Running dapper. I upgraded to KDE 3.5.3 just two days ago and I am going mad. Konqi has gotten so unresponsive. When opening a new tab, by middleclicking a link or something similar, konqi freezes fr half a second instead of nicely loading the tab in the background, like it used to do. Has anyone else experienced this?
[02:26] <_Pete_> abloylas: ok let's see... was that mentioned somewhere on those pages people have been posting urls I need to check out? At least havent noticed yet
[02:26] <abloylas> henning_: it might be in multiverse or something
[02:26] <ctothej> dusty: im not really sure. I have a feeling that the mobo wont allow it. better call/email tech for your motherboard and post a topic in the kubuntu/ubuntu forums to see if anyone has ever done it.
[02:26] <dusty> ok
[02:27] <dusty> any idea how i can find out info on my motherboard without opening the case?
[02:27] <abloylas> _Pete_: it's a known problem
[02:27] <abloylas> have you tried automatix?
[02:27] <_Pete_> no
[02:27] <_Pete_> libxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.
[02:27] <_Pete_> but I tried easyubuntu
[02:27] <abloylas> works good for me
[02:27] <_Pete_> as a last chance
[02:27] <_Pete_> it installed all codecs
[02:27] <abloylas> and the latest version fixes the amarok bug too
[02:27] <_Pete_> but still no sound from amarok
[02:28] <Blizzz> i tihnk you have to reboot
[02:28] <henning_> what source is the multiverse, i mean what do i have to enter in the sources.list?
[02:28] <ctothej> dusty: does it announce it on boot or in the mobo bios?
[02:28] <dusty> no
[02:28] <abloylas> the latest automatix installs libxine-extracodecs
[02:29] <ctothej> was it purchased from a computer manufacturer?
[02:29] <abloylas> henning_: i recommend automatix, takes care of all
[02:29] <_Pete_> abloylas: I have that installed
[02:29] <ctothej> !automatix
[02:29] <ubotu> Automatix is a utility which helps install various codecs and applications which cannot be part of the default installation, also another utility is called EasyUbuntu, please join #automatix or #easyubuntu for more information
[02:29] <_Pete_> but still no sound in amarok
[02:29] <dusty> no a big supermarket (no name brand)
[02:29] <abloylas> _Pete_: what do you have installed?
[02:29] <_Pete_> abloylas: you mean packages ?
[02:30] <abloylas> when you say you have "that" installed, what do you mean?
[02:30] <abloylas> _Pete_: what is "that"?
[02:30] <gil_> so will someone help me with supsend-to-ram?
[02:30] <jaims> hello
[02:31] <abloylas> hi jaims
[02:31] <ctothej> dusty: im looking around now to find out how to get your mobo manufacturer and id. give me a few.
[02:31] <jaims> just updated kubuntu breezy to dapper, using alternate cd; but the x wont start...
[02:31] <jaims> any hint?
[02:31] <_Pete_> abloylas: http://machine.homeunix.net:888/~petriai/tmp/all_packages.txt
[02:32] <_Pete_> here's output of: dpkg -l
[02:32] <ctothej> dusty: check out http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-1035-1041092.html
[02:33] <dusty> ok
[02:33] <dusty> jaims, Reconfigure X.
[02:33] <abloylas> _Pete_: i see you have libxine-extracodecs, if that was not the problem i'm afraid i cannot help
[02:34] <_Pete_> ok, thanks anyway
[02:34] <henning_> i installed automatix, what now?
[02:34] <ctothej> dusty: you can also try 'lspci -v'
[02:35] <abloylas> henning_: run it and it should fix all your problems:)
[02:35] <abloylas> don't blame me if it doesn't thoug
[02:35] <abloylas> your own risk
[02:35] <abloylas> worked good for me
[02:35] <jaims> dusty, how do i reconfigure X? Any tool?
[02:35] <jaims> Ie edited xconf.conf, seems ok...
[02:36] <jpatrick> jaims: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:37] <jaims> aha
[02:37] <jaims> let me try
[02:37] <jaims> thanx!
[02:37] <cromo> any chances we will see kopete 0.12 for kubuntuofficial build?
[02:38] <jpatrick> soon
[02:38] <cromo> great
[02:38] <cromo> it would be great if kubuntu would provide all-in-one repository for fresh updates
[02:39] <_Pete_> ok then another problem besides amarok... How do one use karamba? :)
[02:39] <cromo> you have to edit sources.list each time some new packages appear
[02:39] <_Pete_> I have it installed and also one theme package dld and extraced
[02:39] <_Pete_> should I test the package by doing: karamba <themefile>.theme ?
[02:40] <jpatrick> cromo: that's in the works I think
[02:40] <jpatrick> cromo: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings
[02:41] <cromo> jpatrick: indeed, nice to hear that
[02:42] <XVampireX> Has there been any upgrades in the repositories for the past 2 days? I haven't seen any....
[02:43] <abloylas> henning_: did you run automatix?
[02:43] <jpatrick> XVampireX: dapper is frozen
[02:44] <sokuban> This might sound like the silliest question, but in essence ubuntu and kubuntu are the same right? So any program that works on ubuntu would probbably work on kubuntu?
[02:44] <_Pete_> sokuban: right
[02:44] <_Pete_> only difference is the desktop enviroment
[02:44] <sokuban> so the only difference is the desktop
[02:44] <henning_> yeah it worked good, i just installed the codec and amarok is now playing, thx very much
[02:44] <sokuban> ok thanks
[02:44] <sokuban> I feel like an idiot XD
[02:44] <abloylas> henning_: good :)
[02:44] <XVampireX> jpatrick: so no more sudo apt-get upgrade?
[02:45] <jpatrick> XVampireX: no
[02:45] <cromo> jpatrick: I noticed that you are the maintainer of kmplayer: why does it depend on gstreamer? I wish it used mplayer as a backend.
[02:46] <XVampireX> jpatrick: Ah, for a moment I thought something is wrong in the repositories *shrugs*
[02:46] <jpatrick> cromo: If it did it would have to go to multiverse
[02:47] <gil_> will someone help me get suspend mode working on my toshiba laptop
[02:47] <kronoz> gil_, whats the problem?
[02:47] <cromo> jpatrick: so no chances to use kmplayer with mplayer backend? or is it changeable within the kmplayer's configuration?
[02:48] <jpatrick> cromo: is changable, no way dep on mplayer now that it's in main
[02:48] <gil_> kronoz: hey....i cant get the laptop to resume from standby mode (Suspend-to-ram)
[02:48] <kronoz> cromo, settings > config > use mplayer backend
[02:48] <mash_> how do i stop the big "popup" happening everytime I roll over a taskbar item !
[02:48] <cromo> kronoz: didn't try it yet, stopped installing after I saw gstreamer ;)
[02:48] <gil_> i have tried several settings of acpi-support comments
[02:48] <gil_> nothing
[02:49] <gil_> it goes into suspend...but does not return , resume....screen goes white blank...and hardrive locks up
[02:50] <jaims> dusty, no success so far
[02:50] <jaims> I'll be trying harder
[02:50] <jaims> now time to luch
[02:50] <jaims> thanx!
[02:50] <mash_> anyone ?
[02:52] <ctothej> what is the difference between KDE and GNOME in display technology?
[02:53] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> what do you mean? look or like drivers and such?
[02:53] <ctothej> look. but both if you could :)
[02:54] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> well I think that GNOME is a bit of a plainer look
[02:54] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> but you can change both of them to suit you.
[02:54] <ctothej> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: what about graphics library used? im more interested in the technical differences
[02:55] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> not much I would say
[02:55] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> seeing as you can run GNOME stuff on KDE and vise versa.
[02:56] <Healot> hi kubuntuans
[02:56] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> lol Hi
[02:56] <ctothej> yeah i get the feeling that many application that can easily be run on both systems only are used on the one for which it was made
[02:56] <neutrinomass> ctothej: Gnome is built around Gtk+, whereas KDE uses the qt widget libraries ...
[02:56] <ctothej> it should be advertised as sugh
[02:57] <ctothej> neutrinomass: oh nice. thanks.
[02:59] <Healot> toolkit differences, both desktop application run seamlessly together
[03:00] <CaptainMorgan> in Add/Remove programs how do I get shaded application to be unshaded?
[03:00] <ctothej> heh, from oreillynet.com: "If you think that reimplementing the C++ Standard Template Library in C is a bad idea, you will like KDE / Qt. If you think that the C++ Standard Template Library is a bad idea, you will probably like GNOME / GTk+."
[03:05] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Ok I have a problem
[03:05] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I have all my music on my windows side and I wanted to play it on the linux side so I added all the songs to amaroK but it won't play any of them.
[03:06] <DaveQB> what type of format are they LiNuX_LoVeR_17 ?
[03:06] <afm\colo> aw good god, why does FUCKING kmail refuse to send my mails via smtp?
[03:07] <DaveQB> afm\colo: what error does it give ?? Do you have control over the SMTP server ?
[03:07] <afm\colo> DaveQB: no error, nothing. the smtp is not monitorable by me, unfortunately. the mails just keep sticking in my "Local Folders"-inbox
[03:07] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> They are MP3s
[03:08] <uniq> afm\colo: please don't use that kind of language here. It's not very nice.
[03:08] <ctothej> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: have you installed mp3 codecs?
[03:08] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> hmm not sure
[03:08] <ctothej> !mp3
[03:08] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:08] <mash_> anyone know now to stop the big "popup" happening everytime I roll over a taskbar item !.. pls
[03:09] <afm\colo> uniq: i wouldn't, it i weren't frustrated ;)
[03:09] <ctothej> mash_: right click on panel, click 'configure panel'
[03:09] <DaveQB> its definately a setting mash_ but I cant recall where, in Look n Feel though of course
[03:09] <ctothej> mash_: go to 'Appearance' tab
[03:09] <DaveQB> afm\colo: hard to diagnose without further info, did you try telnetting into your smtp server
[03:09] <DaveQB> ?
[03:10] <afm\colo> DaveQB: the smtp works perfectly fine with sylpheed and via its webinterface
[03:10] <afm\colo> i wonder why there's no possibility to monitor kmail's activities
[03:10] <mash_> ctothej: lovely lovely... ta ;-)
[03:10] <uniq> mash_: right click on kmenu -> panel menu -> appearance -> show bigger icons under mouse (or something like that).
[03:10] <ctothej> np
[03:11] <DaveQB> afm\colo:  hmmmm interesting.  I havent had any sending trouble with Kmail, but I mostly use Thunderbird anyway
[03:13] <afm\colo> DaveQB: well i remember having set up kmail in a working manner while using the livecd for a few days
[03:13] <DaveQB> afm\colo:  all I can suggest is to tripple sheck your settings
[03:13] <CaptainMorgan> in Add/Remove programs how do I get shaded application to be unshaded so that I can download it?
[03:14] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> ok just wondering but can amaroK play WMAs?
[03:14] <afm\colo> DaveQB: i've already done so... i'm absolutely sure everything's fine in the config
[03:14] <Healot> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: no... by default, you need some other packages to work that
[03:15] <jpatrick> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: think so
[03:15] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I can try it
[03:15] <jpatrick> with what Healot said
[03:15] <jpatrick> !mp3
[03:15] <afm\colo> DRM'd files won't work, I guess
[03:15] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:15] <jpatrick> ^ LiNuX_LoVeR_17
[03:15] <uniq> captainmorgan: can you give an example of a shaded application?
[03:16] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Ya I did that and it can play WMAs
[03:16] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Thanks
[03:17] <CaptainMorgan> uniq: http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4407/snapshot15zp.png
[03:17] <crazy_penguin> good afternoon to all!
[03:18] <Healot> yup no DRM... however there are some third party software to handle DRM, which I just don't want to mention
[03:18] <uniq> captainmorgan: enable the universe repository.
[03:19] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Is there a way to make BitTorrent not show your IP or hide it?
[03:19] <uniq> !universe
[03:19] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[03:19] <CaptainMorgan> where is it located?
[03:20] <uniq> captainmorgan: there is a guide at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto#head-3af7264a0e97edbc5bf039e5bdb971f46c43269a
[03:20] <afm\colo> my gosh
[03:20] <afm\colo> this is so INCREDIBLY stupid
[03:21] <uniq> afm\colo: what is?
[03:21] <vinboy> wat?
[03:21] <afm\colo> DaveQB: i know what was the cause
[03:21] <afm\colo> the only sending-account i created was not marked "default"
[03:21] <DaveQB> afm\colo: :)
[03:21] <afm\colo> so maybe kmail was trying to get mail out via a local MTA or sth
[03:21] <afm\colo> or whatever
[03:21] <DaveQB> afm\colo: happens to the best of us
[03:21] <afm\colo> thing is, it works now
[03:21] <neutrinomass> I just installed KDE. Overally, it's very nice, except for the menus. There are too many things there... does anybody know whether things will be cleaned up ?
[03:21] <DaveQB> yeah, sendmail i think it tried
[03:22] <afm\colo> thanks for bearing with me ;)
[03:22] <DaveQB> will be cleaned up when ?
[03:22] <DaveQB> I like it the way it is
[03:22] <DaveQB> afm\colo: no worries mate
[03:22] <DaveQB> neutrinomass: you can edit the menus however you like to
[03:23] <afm\colo> neutrinomass: if you want to see what a messy KDE menu looks like, give Knoppix a shot ;)
[03:23] <CaptainMorgan> yes, but that guide is for Ubuntu, uniq, using synaptic.. what about adept, kubuntu?
[03:23] <uniq> captainmorgan: scroll down.
[03:23] <neutrinomass> DaveQB: I meant as in an edgy specification. I know I can edit the menus... but newbie users might be overwhelmed...
[03:25] <DaveQB> neutrinomass: or may find it easier to find things in a menu then trying to guess their executable name in a Konsole.  That is, if the konsole is in the menu :)
[03:25] <neutrinomass> DaveQB: Agreed, but I feel you understood my point :)
[03:26] <tzar> does anyone know how to change sources to testing from stable in ubuntu?
[03:27] <afm\colo> great :) my FSFE-fellowship account has been activated
[03:28] <afm\colo> before you stands fellow #737 (greetings from Boeing ;D)
[03:29] <DaveQB> tzar: ummmm this is not Debian :)
[03:29] <tzar> DaveQB sorry im totally new to linux, can you give me a hand?
[03:29] <DaveQB> tzar: sure
[03:29] <DaveQB> shoot
[03:29] <uniq> tzar: the current stables are warty, hoary, breezy and dapper. which do you want? :)
[03:29] <Chris_H> im a relative newbie too, i'll join in here
[03:30] <Healot> tzar: new indeed...
[03:30] <DaveQB> just ask the questions fella's....
[03:30] <Chris_H> right, which version do i get? im downloading a dvd .iso via torrent
[03:30] <tzar> well i want to  middle  between   stable and buggy
[03:30] <uniq> tzar: which version are you currently running?
[03:30] <Ahmuck> does a polka dotted cow lose thier spots if they eat too many roses ?
[03:30] <Chris_H> there's 3 on the server
[03:31] <tzar> ive just installed dapper
[03:31] <r0xz> Chris_H: the version is in the torrent name
[03:31] <r0xz> Chris_H: 6.06 is dapper
[03:31] <Healot> btw ubuntu just release the latest stable version
[03:31] <uniq> tzar: dapper is the most recent stable.
[03:31] <osh__> tzar: dapper is the latest release. I've found some bugs. I think. It looks more or less ok though.
[03:31] <tzar> i see
[03:31] <Chris_H> which do i need? there's amd64, i386 and powerpc
[03:32] <CaptainMorgan> thanks uniq.. .but now it appears there's some app's missing from the add/remove
[03:32] <tzar> what is the latest  middle ?
[03:32] <uniq> tzar: in ubuntu you can not choose to track 'unstable' the same way you can with debian. as unstable in ubuntu becomes stable.
[03:32] <Healot> Chris_H: what CPU do you have?
[03:32] <osh__> tzar: most bugs I've found are in some applications, not dapper iteslf...
[03:32] <Chris_H> it's quite an old one, but got a newer hard drive and 256 ram
[03:32] <Chris_H> it's made by Evesham
[03:32] <CaptainMorgan> I enabled and added 'multiverse' to both deb and src universe's.... as well others that said universe such as security
[03:32] <Healot> Chris_H: just the name
[03:32] <Chris_H> im using it as a second computer/project
[03:33] <Chris_H> Evesham something
[03:33] <Chris_H> i havent a clue
[03:33] <Healot> Chris_H: Pentium III?
[03:33] <Healot> does the name contains Intel/AMD/Cyrix/VIA?
[03:33] <Chris_H> no, it's AMD Athlon...
[03:33] <Healot> the you'll need the "i386"
[03:33] <Chris_H> thanks healot
[03:33] <Memorice> why
[03:33] <Chris_H> so are the 3 for different processors?
[03:33] <Memorice> AMD can be 64bit...
[03:34] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> true
[03:34] <Healot> Memorice: he said OLD, and it's AMD Athlon, and I am very sure it's a 32-bit
[03:34] <tzar> uniq, osh_,  what is the middle distro i guess?
[03:34] <DaveQB> I am betting x86 Athlon too
[03:34] <Chris_H> when i first got it, there was 128mb RAM and a 20 gig hard drive
[03:35] <Chris_H> and that was pretty good back then
[03:35] <afm\colo> use i386
[03:35] <Chris_H> so from that...
[03:35] <DaveQB> an AMD64 with a 20gig HDD and 128 RAM ? Memorice
[03:35] <DaveQB> :)
[03:36] <Healot> the keyword OLD :-
[03:37] <r0xz> Chris_H: that system is problably at least 5 years old, probably 6. So i386 is it. (although i also use just i386 on a new system here)
[03:37] <osh__> tzar: breezy
[03:37] <Chris_H> yeah, that's about right r0xz
[03:37] <osh__> tzar: works well, a little out of date but more up to date than debian-stable.
[03:37] <uniq> tzar: there is no middle distro, more info at: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases
[03:37] <Chris_H> as i said, my dad got the hard drive and the ram upgraded, but...
[03:38] <Chris_H> left the rest :P
[03:38] <r0xz> hehe
[03:38] <ubuntu_> I have a notebook Acer Extensa 2902LMi, and neither Bluetooth ("No BT device found") nor Wireless (device can not be switched on) do work, both devices are built-in.
[03:39] <ubuntu_> When the screensaver activated, I could not unlock it. The ubuntu pw was empty, but just hitting enter did not work.
[03:39] <Chris_H> the other thing is this..
[03:39] <vonHalenbach> acer is cheap crab.
[03:39] <Healot> it is
[03:39] <vonHalenbach> hihi
[03:39] <Healot> that's why people buy it
[03:39] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> but it gets the job done
[03:39] <vonHalenbach> yes.
[03:39] <ubuntu_> vonHalenbach: That does not solve the problem.
[03:39] <Healot> Apple Computers are expensive but affordable :)
[03:40] <Chris_H> .see im a bit of a newbie, and i was wondering if there's a list on the internet anywhere of like windows programs and their linux equivalents?
[03:40] <Chris_H> i've googled, to no avail
[03:40] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Apple SUCKS!!!!!!!!
[03:40] <Healot> Chris_H: just throw the name to us
[03:40] <ubuntu_> Healot: What do you mean with "people like you"?
[03:40] <Chris_H> okay
[03:40] <Healot> ubuntu_: did I say that to you?
[03:40] <Chris_H> i'll keep that in mind
[03:41] <Chris_H> i have heard that some soundcards aren't liked by linux?
[03:41] <DaveQB> Chris_H:  Go to cybertechhelp forums and see my sig there, there's a link to a huge list
[03:41] <ubuntu_> Healot: yes, obviously.
[03:41] <Healot> when?
[03:41] <Chris_H> great, cheers DaveQB
[03:41] <DaveQB> Chris_H:  cant make it too easy for you ;-)
[03:41] <Chris_H> :D
[03:41] <DaveQB> i think its cybertechhelp.com
[03:41] <DaveQB> but google can help there
[03:42] <mth`MAW> Jo, guys, I have installed kBeagleBar via configure, make , checkinstall but I cannont start that tool.. does anybody knows where it hides?
[03:42] <Chris_H> got it Dave
[03:42] <ubuntu_> Healot: oh, I misread you. But you are right, I bought it because it was affordable to me.
[03:42] <DaveQB> Chris_H: well done, that was fast indeed
[03:42] <osh__> Chris_H: I think there was a list of some sort on kde.org. Naturally it focuses on kde-apps though.
[03:42] <osh__> Chris_H: Can't seem to find it now. :-/
[03:43] <Chris_H> wait, Dave... you dont appear to have a signature on there
[03:43] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Chris_H here is one
[03:43] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[03:43] <Healot> i just lovet the joke about the word "affordable" and "cheap"
[03:44] <Chris_H> brill, cheers
[03:44] <ubuntu_> Healot: it was no joke for me, though... it still was expensive enough.
[03:44] <DaveQB> Chris_H: yeah I should so
[03:44] <DaveQB> do
[03:44] <Chris_H> i cant see it, do i have to sign up to view your sigs?
[03:44] <Healot> nah... I don't have Acer, just the low-entry Lenovo's
[03:45] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Chris_H, did you check the link I gave you?
[03:45] <ubuntu_> so the "it just works" was not true for me with the new dapper. :-(
[03:45] <Healot> see made in China products are really an International thing
[03:45] <Healot> ubuntu_: you should read Linux HCL though
[03:45] <DaveQB> Chris_H: i'll get it .
[03:45] <Healot> many manufacturers are reluctant to support free software/OSes
[03:46] <ubuntu_> Healot: well...
[03:46] <tzar> anyone know a good wireless network manager ?
[03:46] <DaveQB> Chris_H: you cant see a sig here ? http://www.cybertechhelp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=627526&postcount=21
[03:46] <ubuntu_> I suppose the wlan problem is the missing acerhk thingy.
[03:46] <DaveQB> Chris_H: its the same as the one LiNuX_LoVeR_17 posted ^
[03:46] <Healot> ubuntu_: my Lenovo lover works out of the box with Dapper/Breezy releases
[03:46] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> lol
[03:47] <uniq> tzar: network-manager-kde
[03:47] <Healot> maybe not the wifi card, but I got my own RT2xxx USB wifi bs
[03:47] <ubuntu_> Healot: price tag?
[03:47] <uniq> my ibook works out of the box with dapper too. apple is so sweet :)
[03:47] <Healot> ubuntu_: it is in some non-US price tag, RM 2500 (MYR)
[03:47] <Healot> just divide by 3.7
[03:48] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I hate apple
[03:48] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> they have way over priced things
[03:48] <uniq> what's to hate?
[03:48] <uniq> my ibook wasn't overpriced at all.
[03:48] <Healot> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: you bought any Mac?
[03:48] <ubuntu_> Healot: wondering if you suggested to buy this lenovo notebook in order to install dapper with running wireless
[03:48] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> No Never and never will
[03:49] <Healot> my mini rocks
[03:49] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I have worked on a Mac and I hated it!
[03:49] <Healot> ubuntu_: kinda
[03:49] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> The most awkward thing ever!
[03:49] <uniq> linux_lover_17:on a mac with linux?
[03:49] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> no
[03:49] <Healot> well they say Lenovo/IBM is the best with most Linux distros
[03:49] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> but I suppose it is much better
[03:49] <ubuntu_> Healot: not really free as on OS then...
[03:49] <afm\colo> Lenovo does not support GNU/Linux any more
[03:49] <Chris_H> i have one more question as per the linux thing
[03:49] <uniq> ibook with kubuntu is really nice.
[03:50] <afm\colo> i would not buy because of ideological reasons any more, at least
[03:50] <ubuntu_> afm\colo: that's  what I learned today, too
[03:50] <uniq> chris_h: shoot.
[03:50] <Chris_H> i remember from the last time i tried with kubuntu that USB modems + Linux dont get along
[03:50] <DaveQB> Chris_H: yeah rarely do
[03:50] <Healot> afm\colo: it's not the manufacturer's thing, it's the hardware compatibilty that concerns me
[03:50] <afm\colo> usb-modems are a total abomination
[03:50] <afm\colo> a spwan of hellkind
[03:50] <afm\colo> an unnatural thing
[03:50] <uniq> I have not used a USB modem, ever.
[03:50] <afm\colo> they should not exist
[03:50] <DaveQB> LOL @ afm\colo
[03:50] <afm\colo> for real, DaveQB ;)
[03:51] <DaveQB> some do work under linux i have read
[03:51] <ubuntu_> afm\colo: so what modem do you use with a notebook with a winmodem and without a serial interface, like mine?
[03:51] <Healot> anyway a good way for migrating to Linux, is a lot of research on Linux HCL...
[03:51] <afm\colo> ubuntu_: well, I for one, don't use analog modems at all anymore
[03:52] <Healot> just like Windows HCL, not everything will work,,,
[03:52] <afm\colo> and i'm glad about that ;)
[03:52] <Healot> afm\colo: GSM/GPRS modem rocks :s
[03:52] <uniq> chris_h: what's the name and number of your USB modem?
[03:52] <ubuntu_> I'll go to russia for some weeks, and there I won't have dsl like at home. So what now?
[03:53] <afm\colo> i'd prefer HSDPA ;)
[03:53] <ubuntu_> It's easy to brag, but it doesn't help anybody.
[03:53] <afm\colo> ubuntu_: i believe the Elsa Microlink USB devices are said to work with the Linux kernel
[03:54] <ubuntu_> ok, thanks. I'll try first with an ultron thing, which is said to work with redhet. I'll see.
[03:56] <Chris_H> name and number?
[03:56] <Chris_H> gimme a sec
[03:56] <Chris_H> Sagem F@st 800 E2L PE
[03:57] <uniq> chris_h: try to search http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ for it.
[04:01] <boolka> ive got dapper, and a hp pavillion zt3000 laptop, im trying to get my wireless working,  it sees my router, but wont connect to it ... wont work with kubuntu either... please help
[04:02] <vinboy> hi
[04:02] <vinboy> anyone got XGL going on kubuntu?
[04:02] <jpatrick> !xgl
[04:02] <ubotu> xgl is, like, totally, "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[04:02] <Chris_H> k, thanks uniq
[04:02] <vinboy> thanks
[04:03] <uniq> chris_h: if it's not there, it most likely is not supported on linux.
[04:04] <Chris_H> doesnt look like it
[04:04] <THY733T> is there anybody can connect to irc.flightgear.org?
[04:05] <uniq> thy733t: please ask that kind of questions in #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:06] <Chris_H> there's a Sagem USB modem driver, but not my model
[04:06] <THY733T> sorry
[04:06] <Chris_H> http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3367 <-- will that work at all?
[04:07] <uniq> chris_h: probably not.
[04:07] <pjhsv> Hi guys...I was wondering if someone could help me.  I downloaded Kubuntu 6.06, burnt the CD, booted the live disc on my laptop and all worked good.  When I installed it though, it can't find my PCMCIA network card anymore??  dmesg has an entry "cs: unable to map card memory!"   I don't have any entries at all relating to PCMCIA stuff when I use lspci ...i have no idea what the problem is...any help?
[04:12] <kronoz> pjhsv, have you tried configing it with system settings > connections?
[04:12] <mezz> chris_h I'm coming into the middle of this conversation, but have you tried the offical Sagem linux driver?
[04:14] <pjhsv> I don't have system settings > connections.  I have system > networking.  and in there, it doesn't come up. ?
[04:14] <mezz> chris_h: I had a f@st 800 a while ago and managed to get it working without any problems in mandriva, I seem to remember there is an unofficial Linux driver going around too
[04:14] <Chris_H> ooh, didnt know there was one
[04:14] <Chris_H> thanks mezz, i'll look into it now
[04:15] <mezz> chris_h: I've just found the unofficial one which I used to use (I never got the offical one to work) that is here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/eagle-usb/
[04:15] <pjhsv> is it normal for my /etc/pcmcia directory to be empty ?
[04:15] <jaims> anyone has dapper system with ati radeon igp 345m up and running?
[04:16] <xwolf-> last version of stellarium (with breezy) ran peachy with ~60fps, the new one (and now in dapper) runs with 2fps MAX... anything missing?
[04:16] <Chris_H> wow, thanks mezz :D
[04:19] <Hobbsee> !info kdelibs-dev
[04:19] <mezz> chris_h no probs, glad to help :)
[04:19] <Terminus> hello. question, will there be any updates to the kde stuff in dapper or will i have to enable backports?
[04:19] <Terminus> just wondering about the stuff that's still broken...
[04:21] <jpatrick> Terminus: sudo -s && echo "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list && wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg && sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:21] <jpatrick> ^voila
[04:21] <Terminus> jpatrick: so i take it there won't really be a lot of fixing done with 3.5.2 and i should just move to 3.5.3?
[04:21] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: && exit, presumably
[04:21] <MidMark> guys I've changed via control panel the resolution of my lcd, and now only in the login screen I have a virtual desktop, I can I fix it?
[04:21] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: oh yeah
[04:21] <jpatrick> Terminus: yes
[04:22] <Terminus> jpatrick: okidokie. and 3.5.3 will never be in backports?
[04:22] <jpatrick> you don't need the "sudo"'s there, just the first one
[04:22] <jpatrick> Terminus: could go there
[04:23] <Terminus> jpatrick: ok. thanks. :)
[04:23] <prxq> Which password does the cups web interface want? (I am trying this because the kde frontend only said "permission denied" and left it at that)
[04:23] <Terminus> i just don't want to mix up the packages from the main repos and the jriddell stuff.
[04:23] <xwolf-> !nvidia
[04:23] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:25] <boolka> I cant get my internet to work on my laptop, wired or wireless, ubuntu, dapper, hp zt3000 laptop... any help would be much appreciated
[04:26] <MidMark> none that knows why my desktop login is oversized?
[04:27] <CaptainMorgan> how do I conigure shortcuts/hotkeys?
[04:27] <h3sp4wn> boolka: Is your internet different to mine ? I thought there was just one internet ??? - have a look in lshw (and find out the makes of each of the cards under network)
[04:27] <apokryphos> CaptainMorgan: from system settings, or kcontrol
[04:28] <CaptainMorgan> yes, but where in sys settings....
[04:28] <apokryphos> CaptainMorgan: not sure, since I can't check it now; something like "input actions"?
[04:29] <xwolf-> how do i know if nvidia drivers are installed?
[04:30] <CaptainMorgan> I don't think it's in sys settings.... oddly enough
[04:30] <EvilIdler> xwolf-: glxinfo should show
[04:30] <apokryphos> xwolf-: if your xorg.conf is running with the "nvidia" driver selected, then it's there
[04:30] <boolka> h3sp4wn, sorry im new to linux world.
[04:30] <CaptainMorgan> cuz I have spent the past 3 hours in there..
[04:30] <CaptainMorgan> not solely looking for it, just I never came across it and now I can't find it
[04:30] <apokryphos> CaptainMorgan: searched for anything like shortcut?
[04:31] <xwolf-> 'glxinfo | grep nvidia' returns nothing
[04:31] <apokryphos> xwolf-: grep -i?
[04:31] <h3sp4wn> boolka: Open konsole from the k menu -> system -> konsole (terminal program)
[04:31] <xwolf-> apokryphos neither.
[04:31] <viggo> I have just installed kubuntu 6.06 on a machine witch used to run Mandriva 2006. And I am having a 'encoding' problem. It looks like Mandriva used ISO-8859-1 encoding for filenames and file content. And ubuntu uses UTF-8. Any hints on how to get it converted correctly would be nice :-)
[04:31] <apokryphos> xwolf-: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep -i nvidia?
[04:31] <EvilIdler> xwolf-: glxinfo without any pipes. Page full of text = drivers active :)
[04:32] <boolka> h3sp4wn, i got 2, one wireless one  ethernet.  Ethernet :  Realtek Smeiconductor Co,   Wireless:  PRO/Wireless 2200BG, Intel Corp
[04:32] <h3sp4wn> boolka: Did the network during installation ?
[04:32] <h3sp4wn> boolka: Are you using dapper ?
[04:32] <boolka> not sure, yes
[04:32] <xwolf-> xorg.conf has two lines: Identifier and Device, with the card's pretty name on it
[04:32] <xwolf-> :)
[04:33] <boolka> h3sp4wn, they both get the correct IP
[04:33] <xwolf-> i mean xorg.conf piped to grep
[04:33] <xwolf-> ;P
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> booka: You can only have one default route at a time
[04:33] <EvilIdler> xwolf-: Then if you can run glxgears without X dying, everything is OK ;)
[04:33] <apokryphos> xwolf-: huh? Do you get   Driver       "nvidia"
[04:34] <MidMark> are you talking about xorg.conf perfect, can you help me? I have a login desktop oversized, can you help me?
[04:34] <xwolf-> apokryphos Driver is "nv"
[04:34] <apokryphos> MidMark: change your refresh rate
[04:34] <EvilIdler> xwolf-: Then it's NOT the real driver
[04:34] <apokryphos> xwolf-: then you're not using the nvidia driver
[04:34] <apokryphos> xwolf-: /msg ubotu nvidia
[04:34] <boolka> h3sp4wn yes, first i tried wireless, it saw the router, got the static ip, but internet dont work, then i plugged in the cat5, it got the ip, internet still dont work
[04:34] <CaptainMorgan> ok.. Im convinced shortcuts/hotkeys can't be configured
[04:34] <MidMark> apokryphos: it's 75 I have to put 60? Mine is lcd
[04:34] <apokryphos> CaptainMorgan: alt+f2 -> kcontrol > accessibility > input actions ?
[04:34] <h3sp4wn> boolka: Both using the same ip ?
[04:35] <apokryphos> MidMark: try that, yeah
[04:35] <boolka> h3sp4wn no
[04:35] <CaptainMorgan> ah... Kcontrol.. where were you hiding...
[04:35] <CaptainMorgan> jeez
[04:36] <apokryphos> CaptainMorgan: everything in kcontrol is in systemsettings
[04:36] <apokryphos> just might be named something different
[04:36] <h3sp4wn> boolka: can you ping the ipaddress of the router - can you ping 194.112.32.1 ?
[04:36] <CaptainMorgan> ok.. but keyboard shortcuts are in Regional and Accessibility? not what I figured.. figured keyboard
[04:36] <kronoz_> how can I install tux racer?
[04:37] <kronoz_> i installed planetpenguin-racer but i find it
[04:37] <kronoz_> *i can't find it
[04:37] <h3sp4wn> boolka: You want to specifically disable the interface you are not using (i.e the wireless)
[04:37] <apokryphos> kronoz_: fire up adept and install tuxracer
[04:37] <MidMark> apokryphos: but why refresh have to change desktop resolution?
[04:37] <apokryphos> MidMark: it shouldn't
[04:38] <homer77_> kronoz_: not in Games - Arcade?
[04:38] <jpatrick> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/757653
[04:38] <jpatrick> ^anyone know how I can change that?
[04:38] <apokryphos> MidMark: I don't actually have a clue why that happens, just noticed in the past that some desktops determine the resolution incorrectly if you don't have a given refresh rate
[04:38] <kronoz_> homer77, i install the dummy package tuxracer-extras becuase that was all i could find
[04:38] <MidMark> apokryphos: ok try and back
[04:39] <kronoz_> and no, it isn't on the k menu
[04:39] <h3sp4wn> Why do you need tux racer is planetpenguin-racer not a better fork or something
[04:40] <apokryphos> kronoz_: is it installed?
[04:40] <apokryphos> !info tuxracer
[04:40] <ubotu> tuxracer: (dummy transition package), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.61-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 44 kB
[04:40] <jpatrick> found it: /etc/motd
[04:40] <kronoz_> apokryphos: thats what i installed
[04:40] <homer77> kronoz_: can u find it in the bash?
[04:40] <kronoz_> !info planetpenguin-racer
[04:40] <apokryphos> jpatrick: curious; any idea why motd?
[04:40] <ubotu> planetpenguin-racer: (another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.3.1-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 240 kB, Installed size: 788 kB
[04:40] <h3sp4wn> planet penguin racer is the new version of it
[04:40] <kronoz_> homer77, no
[04:40] <apokryphos> kronoz_: alt+f2 > tuxracer ?
[04:40] <jpatrick> apokryphos: message of the day
[04:40] <apokryphos> ah
[04:41] <kronoz_> homer77, whereis planetpenguin-racer shows nothing either
[04:41] <kronoz_> apokryphos: nope
[04:41] <homer77> kronoz_ thats strange ...
[04:41] <apokryphos> ok, one sec
[04:41] <xwolf-> now check out, wiki says i have to install linux-restricted-modules for my kernel, there is linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15.23-386 (already installed) and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15.23-686 (not installed). kcontrol says my kernel is 2.6.15.23-386, but shouldnt i be installed the restricted modules that match my processor (a pentium IV)?
[04:42] <boolka> h3sp4wn, when i do  ping 192.168.1.1 ( router ip)  it does this:    ping  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.   Then all the rest of the lines are  " From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable"
[04:42] <kronoz_> homer77, i installed kdegames but i still have no games menu in the k menu
[04:42] <homer77> kronoz_: try ppracer in bash
[04:42] <apokryphos> xwolf-: no, you don't have to install that. Follow the instuctions for installing nvidia driver the conventional way
[04:42] <Blizzz> is there currently no live-cd-image for download available?
[04:42] <kronoz_> homer77, that works!
[04:43] <kronoz_> but is there a way to update the kmenu to show kdegames?
[04:43] <apokryphos> Blizzz: sure there is; /topic
[04:43] <xwolf-> apokryphos it's there https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:43] <homer77> kronoz_ : except of reinstalling it? i guess with dpkg-reconfigure ... but not sure ...
[04:43] <keffo> easy kubuntu available?
[04:44] <kronoz_> homer77, anything like menu-update ?
[04:44] <kronoz_> it doesn't even show in the menu editor which stuff ususally does...
[04:44] <apokryphos> xwolf-: breezy/dapper?
[04:44] <xwolf-> dapper
[04:45] <homer77> no, not as i know , because menu is only edited while installation i think ...
[04:45] <apokryphos> xwolf-: install nvidia-glx, reconfigure your xorg with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure you select the "nvidia" driver
[04:45] <homer77> kronoz_: I'll take a look, what i did install ...
[04:45] <xwolf-> right
[04:46] <apokryphos> xwolf-: then ctrl+alt+backspace and voila; nvidia drivers 8)
[04:46] <h3sp4wn> blooka: Have a look a ifconfig (from konsole) do sudo ifdown wirelessinterfacename(eth1 or whatever it is you will see from the ips) sudo ifdown wired interface sudo ifup wiredinterface (the interface names are in the output of ifconfig)
[04:46] <CaptainMorgan> peace peeps
[04:46] <homer77> kronoz_ : hm ... i didn't use kdegames ...
[04:47] <osh__> guys, if apache2 is installed, it does provide the vpackage "httpd", correct? if so, shouldn't the package wordpress NOT insist on installing apache-common and some other apache1.3-module?
[04:47] <TheFuzzball> hello, I have a problem with KDE... when I start it, it says "cannot Open Theme file /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu"
[04:47] <h3sp4wn> boolka: You may want to look at the output of route if that doesn't work (check that the line default         alien.lan       0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 ath0 is going to the correct interface for me it is ath0)
[04:47] <Flosoft> hey
[04:47] <Flosoft> is anyone else experiencing an extremely slow amarok since the update to the new KDE (Amarok 1.4.0) ?
[04:48] <homer77> kronoz_: ... but installed planetpenguin directly ... I would recommend reconfigure with dpkg ... nothing else i could think of ...
[04:48] <Flosoft> especially while it is loading songs into the playlist?
[04:48] <apokryphos> nope
[04:48] <h3sp4wn> Not at all
[04:48] <boolka> h3sp4wn, how do i do that
[04:48] <osh__> Flosoft: i'm still on the old kde so I can't help you there.
[04:49] <h3sp4wn> booklka: run 'route' from konsole
[04:50] <h3sp4wn> bookla: If you are trying to use network manager I don't understand fully how it works (and never seems to work well for me so I just use the old way)
[04:51] <boolka> h3sp4wn i got 4 lines of response
[04:51] <TheFuzzball> I have a critical KDE problem I have unistalled and re-installed several times using sudo apt-get remove kdm and sudo apt-get install kdm, but this doesn't seem to help, when I start it it says "cannot open Theme File /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu", when I press ok it comes up wit ha normal enough login window, but when I attempt to log-in it reloads and gives me the same error
[04:51] <boolka> im trying to get my internet to work for now
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> boolka: Do you have default in twice ?
[04:52] <TheFuzzball> can someone tell me how to fix, I am using Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper
[04:52] <boolka> yes
[04:52] <boolka> eth0 and eth1
[04:52] <MidMark> it was a 'virtual 1792 1344' in the xorg.conf, but why only login screen suffer of this problems?
[04:53] <h3sp4wn> boolka: You need to disable one or the other but I don't know how to do it from network manager
[04:53] <boolka> i know :)
[04:53] <TheFuzzball> hello?
[04:53] <icer> TheFuzzball: apt-get install ubuntu-artwork
[04:53] <TheFuzzball> k
[04:53] <MidMark> and also why every time I change something in display it come back the virtual ...
[04:53] <TheFuzzball> thanks
[04:54] <boolka> omg
[04:54] <boolka> h3sp4wn
[04:54] <boolka> it works
[04:54] <boolka> it works!!!!
[04:54] <cdromke> hello ppl :)
[04:54] <MidMark> someone that has succesfull putted on surround in amarok could explain how?
[04:55] <cdromke> i just reinstalled kubuntu after a dist-upgrade totally fucked up my previous installation
[04:55] <cdromke> i used the alternate installation
[04:55] <boolka> h3sp4wn thanks alot!!!
[04:55] <TheFuzzball> icer: it still gives me the same error
[04:55] <cdromke> but the problem is that i can't play music or something
[04:55] <cdromke> my sound doesn't work
[04:56] <cdromke> but my soundcards are recognized
[04:57] <keffo> Are there any stability issues I should be aware of regarding the amd64 release & dualcore? I have a 100% failrate right now, random freezes
[04:57] <cdromke> i wonder how i could fix this problem
[04:57] <cdromke> because it's really annoying
[04:59] <cdromke> anyone?
[04:59] <TheFuzzball> I have a critical KDE problem I have unistalled and re-installed several times using sudo apt-get remove kdm and sudo apt-get install kdm, but this doesn't seem to help, when I start it it says "cannot open Theme File /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu", when I press ok it comes up wit ha normal enough login window, but when I attempt to log-in it reloads and gives me the same error
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> boolka: If you wanted to use wireless you would have to disable the wired interface in the same way
[04:59] <boolka> yep going to try that right now
[05:00] <boolka> just getting the updates
[05:00] <icer> TheFuzzball: mmm, try apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings
[05:00] <TheFuzzball> k
[05:00] <h3sp4wn> boolka: That intel chipset is supported natively so there should be no messing around (and it did get an ip before which means wpa or whatever is working)
[05:02] <TheFuzzball> thank you very much, it has worked
[05:04] <vassilis> hello everyone
[05:05] <keffo> Has this type of thing happened to anyone else?
[05:07] <vassilis> is this irc alive?
[05:07] <jpatrick> could be
[05:07] <EvilIdler> 268 idlers :)
[05:08] <vassilis> is anyone offering technical support?
[05:08] <vassilis> I have a problem with apt-get
[05:08] <PyroMithrandir> !ask
[05:08] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:08] <EvilIdler> That depends. Ask, and if anyone has a solution, you get one ;)
[05:08] <LeeJunFan> The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better." I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer.
[05:08] <vassilis> alright
[05:09] <vassilis> I tried to install sun-java5-sdk with adept
[05:09] <vassilis> the package was reportd "BROKEN"
[05:09] <vassilis> and now I cannot remove it
[05:10] <vassilis> it says it is in a bad inconsistent state
[05:10] <EvilIdler> vassilis: 'apt-get -f install' not doing any good either?
[05:10] <vassilis> no
[05:10] <EvilIdler> vassilis: Breezy or Dapper?
[05:10] <vassilis> Dapper
[05:11] <vassilis> apt-get -f install
[05:11] <vassilis> opops
[05:11] <vassilis> sorry
[05:11] <_mek_> vassilis, I guess dpkg might help you if you cant fix it with apt-get -f install
[05:12] <vassilis> dpkg? how do i use that?
[05:12] <vassilis> oh wait
[05:13] <EvilIdler> vassilis: In extreme cases, I just "dpkg --purge packagename"
[05:13] <vassilis> it says sun-dlj-v1-1 license could not be presentes
[05:13] <vassilis> any help?
[05:13] <Blaidd>  I have a quic (hopefully) question for someone.. how do I remove rivafb support from myt kernel?
[05:14] <vassilis> I think the dpkg --purge hint helped
[05:14] <vassilis> thanks a lot
[05:17] <keffo> Soo.. nobody knows anything about constant freezes in the 6.06 amd64 release then?
[05:19] <mezz> sorry, don't use 64bit. Can't really see the point tbh
[05:19] <mezz> u looked on the 64bit forums?
[05:19] <keffo> Yeah
[05:20] <keffo> Fresh 6.06 install, first reboot after install = freeze at "restoring session", second boot = freeze opening adept, third boot = freeze somewhere in systemsettings... 4th boot still going though =)
[05:21] <osh__> what processes could lock the package database? adept, apt-get, aptitude? anything else?
[05:21] <mezz> ouch, sounds painful.
[05:21] <tyfon_> keffo: sounds like bad hardware.. bad ram or something
[05:21] <PyroMithrandir> osh__ synaptic
[05:21] <PyroMithrandir> osh__, apt-cache might
[05:22] <mash_>  I've got .php files associated with Quanta, however every time I open a php file it creates another instance of Quanta.. is there a way around this??
[05:22] <osh__> nope, none of them running. what else could cause a lock?
[05:22] <LeeJunFan> osh__: adept-notifier
[05:22] <keffo> tyfon: The disc is rather old, but breezy worked great. (and xp is perfectly stable)
[05:22] <LeeJunFan> osh__: there's also a cronjob that does apt-get update
[05:23] <osh__> LeeJunFan: Ok. good to know. Still, nothing with "apt" in it running now but the database is still locked. :-/
[05:23] <tyfon_> keffo: then i cant help, but it definitivly sounds like classic ram problem ;) (random crashes/lockups)
[05:23] <osh__> Where's the database? Could I do an fuser on it to see what's holding it?
[05:25] <keffo> tyfon: I do wanna try installing the gfxcard properly, but the nvidia config complains that binutils (ld) is not installed, but it is..
[05:27] <adma> hey guys!
[05:28] <adma> after several hours of surfing the web I still cannot find out how to install flash on my 64bit kubuntu distribution... :( any suggestions?
[05:28] <threat_> wefgsdgdagsdiodfjidhnijuugheauighaweituw09eguodfnb283909r520398hgnjdfnbq9384tghidjnvpqwt0hed
[05:28] <adma> remember...I'm totally new at this!
[05:29] <shulman> what's the best way to set up twinview on dapper drake ?
[05:30] <nrg88> hi, in dapper I experience kicker crashes
[05:30] <kubuntu_newbie> hello folks
[05:30] <osh__> adma: last time I checked there wasn't a 64-bit flash availible. That was about a year ago though.
[05:30] <mezz> adma: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava?highlight=%28flash%29
[05:30] <nrg88> sometimes it takes 2-3 hours, and then kicker simply freezez
[05:30] <nrg88> I have updated to KDE 3.5.3
[05:30] <kubuntu_newbie> what is the repository where can I find rar-non-free?
[05:30] <osh__> !tell osh__ about flash
[05:31] <ctothej> my azureus popup notifications keep hanging (they wont close when i press hide). anyone come across this before? any possible reasons?
[05:31] <cdromke> hmm
[05:31] <cdromke> can i ask mu question again?
[05:31] <cdromke> my*
[05:31] <cdromke> well... atm i'm downloading the normal ubuntu cd
[05:32] <cdromke> but in kubuntu i can't get the sound to work
[05:32] <osh__> !tell adma about flash
[05:32] <kubuntu_newbie> I added backports repository but adept doesnt find it
[05:32] <kubuntu_newbie> nobody may help me?
[05:32] <mezz> ctothej: I had the same problem every now and then, I switched to ktorrent :)
[05:32] <osh__> adma: there's some information there about 64bit flash. not very encouraging though.
[05:33] <gery> anyone has a good sourceslist to update from breezy to dapper? I installed the first time kubuntu, and then automatix, and now I've changed my sources.list but aptitude wants to remove 165 packages
[05:33] <mezz> that wiki page I posted about using flash on a 64bit system seemed pretty positive to me, it claims to work
[05:33] <ctothej> mezz: i am using ktorrent now too, but i feel like i am missing some of the features of azureus
[05:33] <ctothej> mezz: at least i know thats its just not me!
[05:34] <mezz> ctothej: the ktorrent beta 2 has the one feature I missed, which is prioritising of particular files
[05:34] <cdromke> !tell cdromke about sound
[05:34] <visik7> hi
[05:34] <visik7> I've a problem
[05:34] <ctothej> mezz: definitely. is it stable enough to use full time?
[05:35] <mezz> ctothej: I only started using it today, but have had no problems yet
[05:35] <visik7> things in /usr/share/menu aren't display in Kmenu
[05:35] <visik7> not all
[05:35] <visik7> but most
[05:35] <ctothej> mezz: sweet. ill give it a shot.
[05:36] <cius> damn, easyubuntu spitting errors out at me
[05:36] <mezz> ctothej: there is a how to here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188530
[05:36] <james_xxx> cius: that is how easyubuntu has been for me, too
[05:36] <ctothej> mezz: thanks bro
[05:37] <mezz> ctothej: no probs, hope it works for you too :)
[05:39] <kubuntu_newbie> well, I dowloaded application and putted in '/usr/local/bin'
[05:39] <kubuntu_newbie> this chan isnt helpful
[05:39] <kubuntu_newbie> bye
[05:39] <ctothej> mezz: you didnt have to uninstall ktorrent 1 right?
[05:40] <gery> Hi, anybody with breezy and automatix has upgraded to dapper without a clean installation? Could writte me your sources.list?
[05:40] <ctothej> i have some files going now... i dont want it just shutting it down!
[05:40] <mezz> ctothej: nope, I didn't bother.
[05:40] <ctothej> nice
[05:41] <mezz> it kept my uploads, I just closed it, insalled the new one, and opened it up again and the old files were there again, nice and easy :)
[05:41] <ctothej> oh sweet.
[05:43] <abloylas> what firewall do you recommend for a newbie on kubuntu?
[05:44] <uniq> abloylas: guarddog.
[05:44] <abloylas> uniq: why that and not eg firestarter?
[05:46] <Hawkwind> I'd recommend ipkungfu
[05:47] <abloylas> can i hear some reasons for your recommendations?
[05:47] <kronoz> how can i make yakuake start on kde start?
[05:47] <Hawkwind> It's simple, very easy to setup.  I set it up myself after only using linux for 2 days.  That was 4+ years ago and I've used it ever since
[05:47] <Hawkwind> abloylas: Plus I know the maintainer/creator personally.  He used to be an op in #Mandrake which is the distro I've run for 4+ years
[05:48] <EvilIdler> kronoz: Don't quit. KDE is session managed, so programs you leave open are there when you log in next time.
[05:48] <abloylas> Hawkwind i'l check it out, thanks
[05:48] <buz> remains the question if theres even a need for a firewall under kubuntu
[05:48] <admin_> Hello!
[05:49] <abloylas> does gnome/kde matter when chosing a firewall?
[05:49] <buz> no
[05:49] <buz> firewalls live in the kernel
[05:49] <Hawkwind> abloylas: No not at all
[05:49] <abloylas> buz: please explain, i want a nice easy gui
[05:50] <Pitou> I have a little issue with dapper.
[05:50] <EvilIdler> Linux iptables can do more than the simple firewalls on Windows, including some smoothing of transfers when you have a lot data pumping in and out.
[05:50] <buz> to be short, choose the gui
[05:50] <Pitou> When I reboot, the SATA HD turn off, any idea?
[05:50] <buz> they all talk to iptables anyway
[05:50] <abloylas> i know nothing of ip tables, im a noob
[05:50] <abloylas> just want a wall between me and the bad guys
[05:51] <vonHalenbach> use firestarter.
[05:51] <abloylas> vonHalenbach: why firestarter?
[05:51] <vonHalenbach> that is a good tool.
[05:51] <vonHalenbach> easy to use.
[05:51] <EvilIdler> Firestarter did not treat me well :/
[05:51] <abloylas> EvilIdler: what happened?
[05:52] <EvilIdler> It made some strange rules by default which blocked IM client and server, TeamSpeak and SSH
[05:52] <abloylas> i just come over from windows, pretty much
[05:52] <vonHalenbach> Yea, that is security.
[05:53] <EvilIdler> Securing me from using my own friggin' network! Yay!
[05:53] <abloylas> if something is blocked by firestarter, does it ask/remind you to allow or not?
[05:54] <EvilIdler> In my case, it just set up a long list of iptables rules without asking when I chose a "typical" setup
[05:54] <vonHalenbach> Evill you do know your ports well and can unlock them easily.
[05:54] <zblach> hi. quick question. dapper gives me the option of setting a documents folder. i'm dual-booting, so i've made a 4.5GB fat32 partition for all documents in both operating systems. how can I get this working correctly?
[05:54] <EvilIdler> Yeah, so I just use iptables directly myself :)
[05:54] <zblach> (win xp Pro + dapper)
[05:54] <abloylas> i don't want to be blocked and get stuck on something i don't understand
[05:54] <abloylas> need easy gui
[05:55] <EvilIdler> For a newbie, it can be risky. An open-by-default interface to the firewall would be good, with different blockable tasks listed.
[05:55] <vonHalenbach> EvilIdler: you are a big hacker.
[05:55] <EvilIdler> vonHalenbach: Yeah..I'm about to theme my body to match my mobile phone..
[05:56] <vonHalenbach> My mobile phone is stronger than yours.
[05:56] <vonHalenbach> and much bigger.
[05:56] <zblach> what should the partition permissions be on a fat32 drive?
[05:56] <EvilIdler> Still waiting for that in-tooth mobile :)
[05:56] <Davidosky> !3gp
[05:56] <ubotu> Davidosky: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:57] <Davidosky> How can i use a 3gp video file?
[05:57] <vonHalenbach> ;-))
[05:57] <EvilIdler> It would of course have an external Bluetooth numberpad ;)
[05:57] <vonHalenbach> Mindcontrol.
[05:58] <lewix> hi
[05:58] <lewix> what do you use to make website ?
[05:58] <vonHalenbach> kate.
[05:58] <EvilIdler> lewix: Quanta, mad skillz and patience
[05:58] <vonHalenbach> patience
[05:59] <RadiantFire> lol... mad skillz
[05:59] <MidMark> someone that has succesfull installed and used an ip4200? I have problems with photos
[05:59] <EvilIdler> Quanta has built-in FTP, so it makes it simpler to upload - or you can even just work right on the webserver if you trust the backup procedures
[05:59] <lewix> what's the best, do you guys think that it's as powerful as dreamwaver on windows
[05:59] <MidMark> I mean a canon pixma ip4200
[05:59] <zblach> !fat32
[05:59] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:59] <RadiantFire> lewix: it creates standards compliant markup
[05:59] <RadiantFire> i've never gotten a webpage that will validate correctly out of dreamweaver
[05:59] <RadiantFire> although its not wysiwyg, but it has a preview mode that works well
[06:00] <lewix> RadiantFire. so what od you advise?
[06:00] <EvilIdler> Dreamweaver is one of those form-before-function interfaces that makes the output a mess
[06:00] <kronoz> quanta is awesome
[06:00] <kronoz> theres also nvu :)
[06:00] <EvilIdler> Yeah, just about any editor with syntax highlighting is great for markup.
[06:01] <lewix> alright
[06:01] <EvilIdler> Quanta or Bluefish (the Gnome/Gtk+ counterpart) have built-in tools directly for webmanglement, though
[06:01] <RadiantFire> Quant > Bluefish
[06:01] <lewix> you guys are saying that it's better to make website with either quanda, mad skillz or patience ?
[06:01] <RadiantFire> Bluefish is garbage
[06:01] <lewix> is that it?
[06:01] <RadiantFire> if you want to use gtk version use Screem
[06:02] <RadiantFire> but I prefer Quanta, better preview modes
[06:02] <RadiantFire> and it actually uses KIO
[06:02] <lewix> alright ,
[06:02] <EvilIdler> lewix: Don't worry about lack of choices when the few choices are good ;)
[06:03] <vonHalenbach> EvilIdler looks like a mobile phone.
[06:05] <lewix> i'm trying to have internet with ubuntu
[06:05] <lewix> the wireless
[06:05] <zblach> EvilIdler: lol @ webmanglement
[06:05] <lewix> it just doesn't connect automatically as windows does , so I'm trying to figure out a way of being able to use internet
[06:06] <sean> hey -- my CDR is writing slow and dying in mid-write with KDE - in Linspire it didn;t do that
[06:06] <EvilIdler> zblach: You should see draft 1-4 of anything I make :P
[06:06] <sean> It's supposed to write at 48x, but it writes a 24x and dies every time
[06:07] <darx> greetings
[06:07] <vonHalenbach> lewix: what kind of connection do you use?
[06:07] <lewix> vonHalenbach: wireless
[06:07] <darx> how do i check wether the touchpad driver is synaptic?
[06:07] <vonHalenbach> Do you have a wireless router with autoconnect?
[06:08] <vonHalenbach> Or just a Modem?
[06:08] <MidMark> I mean a canon pixma ip4200
[06:09] <cius> under kde, should I use kdesu rather than sudo or are they the same thing?
[06:09] <MidMark> someone that has a canon pixma ip4200 and it works?
[06:09] <sean> cius: use kdesu for kde programs, gksudo for gnome programs and sudo for terminals
[06:09] <lewix> vonHalenbach: I don't have a wireless router, I have the wireless card and it's suppose to detect some wireless connections available out there
[06:09] <vonHalenbach> cius: if it is gafical use kdesu. it is the same.
[06:09] <cius> sean, k, thanks
[06:10] <cius> vonHalenbach, so kdesu is the same as gksudo?
[06:10] <sean> cius: kdesu (sure) and gksudo (I think), set up several things for the program to run too -- in case they are not there for root
[06:10] <sean> cius: not likely
[06:11] <darx> how do i check wether the touchpad driver is synaptic?
[06:11] <sean> cius: kdesu starts things like dcop -- which gksudo does not need, so it probably does not start it
[06:11] <vonHalenbach> lewix: oh, i see. does the wirelesscard work alredy under linux?
[06:11] <cius> sean, I take it that it would be best to run something like easyubuntu with gksudo as it was meant for ubuntu?
[06:11] <sean> cius: yes
[06:12] <cius> sean, that might be my problem then
[06:12] <cius> thanks, I'll try that and let you know what happens :-)
[06:12] <sean> cius: easyubuntu -> gksudo, k3b -> kdesu, apt-get -> sudo
[06:12] <cius> cool, good to know
[06:12] <lewix> vonHalenbach: I guess so
[06:13] <EvilIdler> Adept has stopped working from the menu here, but running the same command from a term works. Any ideas why?
[06:13] <sean> cius: I'm glad I;m of help -- hope it works!
[06:13] <Big_T> can someone tell me, how to enable the direct rendering with the ati radeon fglrx driver?
[06:13] <vonHalenbach> lewix: can you do a ping into the internet? like ping www.ibm.com
[06:13] <vonHalenbach> ?
[06:13] <cius> sean, okay, it told me gksudo was not found
[06:14] <cius> gtksudo maybe?
[06:14] <cius> nope
[06:14] <lewix> vonHalenbach: i don't think so, I can't go on internet...I can't chat...etc...
[06:14] <Davidosky> how can i play a 3gp file? VLC can open it but there is "no sound"
[06:14] <sean> cius: you'll need to install it, ubuntu has it (because it needs it ) but kubuntu doe snot come with it by default
[06:14] <darx> try mplayer
[06:14] <vonHalenbach> lewix: do you make fun of me?
[06:14] <dh> In Klipper what do the actions do ?//
[06:14] <cius> sean, ah ok
[06:15] <cius> thanks
[06:15] <lewix> vonHalenbach: ?...not at all
[06:15] <dh> ?
[06:15] <dh> ?
[06:15] <EvilIdler> Davidosky: 3GP is just the videoformat. Try 'file filename' and see if it tells you what sound format it is
[06:15] <sean> dh: explain -- in dcop?
[06:15] <vonHalenbach> good bye lewix
[06:16] <sean> dh: hum --
[06:16] <lewix> vonHalenbach: Im trying to connect on internet? why would you think I make fun of you ? my english is not that great...anyway bye
[06:16] <sean> dh: I just found them
[06:16] <sean> dh: I have no clue what they do
[06:16] <ubuntu> coucou
[06:16] <darx> could someone help me fiigure out how to configure my touchpad?????????
[06:17] <darx> pleasee
[06:18] <grothesk> Hello!
[06:18] <grothesk> Is kubuntu on UTF8?
[06:19] <grothesk> If not, how can I switch to UTF-8?
[06:19] <EvilIdler> Davidosky: 3GP files would use AAC, AMR or QCELP sound. At least one of them could be DRM infested :/
[06:19] <Davidosky> you mean that i need more codecs?
[06:19] <EvilIdler> grothesk: I seem to get UTF8 text from the simple editors, at least
[06:20] <MusicChump> can anyone point me to instructions to install Kubuntu with windows xp as dual boot?
[06:20] <EvilIdler> Davidosky: AAC codec at least. Dunno what AMR is, and QCELP is a variation of a codec mostly used for speech (dunno if it's open or proprietary)
[06:20] <cius> okay, this is ridiculous
[06:20] <Davidosky> ok thx :D
[06:21] <grothesk> EvilIdler: I do have some mp3 files and their filenames are in UTF-8. But in kubunut, they are corrupt.
[06:21] <EvilIdler> MusicChump: Install XP first, then google for "grub chainloader" if it doesn't automagically setup XP as a boot option
[06:21] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Ah, what player? I know XMMS is *terrible* at it, but would have expected Amarok to work
[06:21] <kronoz> !aac
[06:21] <grothesk> amarok...
[06:21] <cius> I click Adept from the K menu and it takes five seconds for the root pass box to appear, and after I type in my pass, it takes a full 20 seconds to launch adept...
[06:21] <ubotu> I heard aac is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about aac support
[06:21] <kronoz> cius, yes it is slow :(
[06:21] <kronoz> apt-get ftw
[06:22] <grothesk> EvilIdler: But I mean the display in konqueror.
[06:22] <cius> kronoz, yea, looks like command line for me from now on
[06:22] <EvilIdler> cius: Lucky you - Adept doesn't start at all here :(
[06:22] <MusicChump> ty
[06:22] <MusicChump> :P
[06:22] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Hmm..that's weird, then.
[06:22] <dh> sean: No in Klipper the Clipboard program
[06:22] <kronoz> adept-updater would never start for me
[06:22] <ubuntu_> Hello everybody, I've just installed the last kubuntu release, and I want to set up my RAID device, I need some help
[06:23] <Davidosky> Evil: i have used VLC from Konsole. I can see this error: main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `samr'
[06:23] <CaBlGuY-Gone> bbl peeps.  o/
[06:23] <EvilIdler> Davidosky: That's AMR sound, then
[06:23] <EvilIdler> Davidosky: I have never heard of AMR sound format until today :/
[06:23] <sean> dh: I already answered you--  read after when i mentioned dcop
[06:23] <lewix> people here just suppose things thinking that everybody is like them, so when you know less some of them think you're making fun of them. for those people who believe me, can you please help me out ? I have a atheros AR5005G wireless, and I would like to be able to access internet (the wireless connection of the guy next door)
[06:24] <cius> anyone know if the adept slowness is a kde thing in general or just a kubuntu thing?
[06:24] <Davidosky> lol, this is a 3g file created by a Nokia 6630 :D
[06:24] <EvilIdler> grothesk: What version of KDE is it?
[06:25] <cius> sean, is gksudo its own package or is it part of another package?  maybe gksu?
[06:25] <tyfon_> you need w32codecs to play 3gp files afaik
[06:25] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Unicode support is in the core libs, so it's weird if Konq doesn't support it
[06:25] <grothesk> KDE 3.5.3
[06:25] <nemesis> I have a strange issue with dapper and hope someone can help
[06:26] <nemesis> if I dual boot on rebooting from dapper I have reistall my tv card
[06:27] <nemesis> in windows, is strange and I cant for the life of me figure out wyhy
[06:27] <darx> how to check if the synaptics driver is loaded ???????
[06:27] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Is your language set to de_DE.UTF-8? It seems KDE doesn't encode properly if using ISO-8859-variants
[06:29] <grothesk> EvilIdler: How do I check that?
[06:29] <EvilIdler> grothesk: In a konsole, type 'env | grep LANG'
[06:29] <grothesk> EvilIdler: thx
[06:29] <luh> i just have a black screen when the kubuntu-livecd has finished booting
[06:29] <luh> what can i do against it?
[06:29] <EvilIdler> I've got en_US.UTF-8 (the default)
[06:30] <EvilIdler> If it was en_US, Konqueror would act pretty strange on some of my files :)
[06:30] <grothesk> LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
[06:30] <grothesk> LANGUAGE=de_DE:de:en_GB:en
[06:30] <grothesk> Hm. Should be o.k....
[06:30] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Yes, that looks good
[06:31] <luh> anyone an idea?
[06:31] <grothesk> But why are those mp3 files not displayed properly?
[06:31] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Are they really UTF-8, or are they Asian names in some strange codepage?
[06:32] <EvilIdler> I've got a few Japanese files that didn't display well
[06:32] <adma> hey!
[06:32] <adma> what is the best program for playing dvd's, music and movies and how do I install it? in basic steps...I'm a n00b :)
[06:33] <EvilIdler> !dvd
[06:33] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[06:33] <ubuntu_> Hello everybody, can somebody help me installing a RAID device under kubuntu system please
[06:33] <adma> what about mplayer? is that any good?
[06:33] <grothesk> EvilIdler: They should be UTF-8. I created them under Suse. And Suse used to support UTF-8 since the dawn of time... *g*
[06:34] <EvilIdler> Once you have libdvdcss, Xine is a decent player, VLC would probably work, and MPlayer is a nice third..Kaffeine somewhere in there
[06:34] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Damn, then I dunno why KDE is being such a poopyhead :(
[06:34] <adma> what do I need to play mp3's and avi's ?
[06:35] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Check launchpad.net and see if you can find any bugs like that
[06:35] <EvilIdler> !mp3
[06:35] <ubotu> [mp3]  a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:35] <EvilIdler> More packages to install to get MP3, but just follow the instructions, and it's easy :)
[06:36] <adma> still haven't figuered out how to install packages yet :P
[06:36] <EvilIdler> adma: Look in the K menu, under System. There's a program called Adept.
[06:37] <EvilIdler> adma: In that program, there is also a menu option to manage repositories, which is what you need to add a new one, like the Seveas one mentioned
[06:37] <cius> wow, this is really bad
[06:37] <cius> gam_server and whiptail eating up cpu time like a humvee guzzles gas
[06:37] <keffo> "kdm stop" does not stop the x-server?
[06:37] <EvilIdler> Wow, your desktop is eyeing Arabian oil by now :/
[06:38] <darx> whats the shortcut to switch workspace?
[06:38] <EvilIdler> darx: Ctrl and an F-key
[06:38] <darx> EvilIdler: thanks
[06:39] <darx> EvilIdler: doesn't work
[06:39] <adma> ah good :)
[06:39] <adma> thx!
[06:39] <darx> EvilIdler: its find
[06:39] <Riskbreaker> how do i restore my system tray?
[06:40] <Riskbreaker> edit:nevermind
[06:40] <cius> well, looks like Ubuntu, here I come again
[06:40] <darx> whats the shortcut to switch workspace?
[06:41] <EvilIdler> Ctrl-F1, ctrl-F2 etc. work fine here.
[06:41] <EvilIdler> You of course need to have actual plural workspaces
[06:42] <element4> Hello ppl, can a kubuntu newbie ask a simple question!?
[06:44] <RadiantFire> does anyone know if xmodmap changes are permanent?
[06:44] <darx> EvilIdler: alright the function keys.. thanks that works, i tried the f key. stupid me :)
[06:44] <kronoz> !mov
[06:44] <ubotu> kronoz: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:44] <grothesk> RadiantFire: No, they are not.
[06:44] <RadiantFire> how do I make them permanent?
[06:44] <kronoz> no, i did not get hit by a bloody windmill -_-
[06:45] <grothesk> RadiantFire: Running kde?
[06:45] <RadiantFire> grothesk: yes
[06:45] <RadiantFire> manually assigning my media keys
[06:45] <RadiantFire> gnome detects them, but then again, I hate gnome...
[06:45] <cius> is there an easy way to apt-get remove the entire kubuntu-desktop or do I have to go in and remove each individual package?
[06:45] <grothesk> Put your changes into a file .xmodmaprc
[06:46] <EvilIdler> Gnome detected all of grandpa's media keys but one..PLAY
[06:46] <grothesk> Then create an executable skript in /.kde/Autostart
[06:46] <RadiantFire> grothesk: is it the strings that I fed to xmodmap?
[06:46] <grothesk> It schould contain: xmodmap ./modmaprc
[06:46] <grothesk> No.
[06:47] <grothesk> Just 'xmodmap ./filewithyourchangedstrings
[06:47] <RadiantFire> so if I execute xmodmap -e "keycode 174 = XF86AudioMute"
[06:47] <RadiantFire> do I put "keycode 174 = XF86AudioMute" in ./xmodmaprc
[06:48] <RadiantFire> I'm sorry, but for some reason what you said just isn't clickin
[06:48] <grothesk> No clicking... Command Line... *g*
[06:48] <Ace2005> You could use this to make an autostart thing for KDE, it adds a new module to kcontrol: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=35038
[06:49] <RadiantFire> Ace2005: no, I get that, but what do I put in .xmodmaprc
[06:49] <RadiantFire> I understand autostart perfectly, but you said it should be xmodmap ./filewithstrings
[06:50] <RadiantFire> what is the string format for that file
[06:55] <abloylas> i just installed firestarter on kubuntu, where is the menu icon?
[06:55] <grothesk> Just put your mappings into it.
[06:56] <dmoyne> hello ! ; I have a pb to install properly mysql ; anybody to help ?
[07:02] <lizardmane> Recommendations for program to find and delete duplicate files through several subdirectories ?
[07:05] <defrysk> krusader and mc
[07:07] <dergringo> lizardmane: Kleansweep
[07:07] <conor> i need help with my internet speed
[07:08] <Midspeed> hi everybody
[07:08] <Midspeed> i got a question about my lovely kubuntu 6.06
[07:09] <Fillado> ?
[07:09] <Snake> !ask
[07:09] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:09] <Midspeed> sorry
[07:09] <Midspeed> ha ha ha
[07:09] <Snake> :)
[07:09] <Midspeed> ok heres my question
[07:09] <Midspeed> i created a username on the shell
[07:09] <Midspeed> and when i try to go into X WINDOWS
[07:09] <Midspeed> and type STARTX on the shell
[07:10] <Midspeed> it doesnt do nothing
[07:10] <Midspeed> but if i do it with my root password it works
[07:10] <Midspeed> whats going on?
[07:10] <Memorice> can anyone help me installing xgl on kubuntu?
[07:10] <Snake> !xgl
[07:10] <ubotu> well, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[07:11] <Memorice> ok thanks
[07:11] <Midspeed> im waiting for help here :'(
[07:11] <Fillado> Midspeed: (this is only me speculating) but would a normal user not have permisson to start X11?
[07:11] <Midspeed> oh
[07:11] <Midspeed> ok, Fillado, that makes some sense
[07:11] <Midspeed> i will look into that
[07:11] <Midspeed> thanks
[07:12] <slow-motion> re
[07:12] <conor> i need help my internt connections lag is a 157ms
[07:12] <grothesk> EvilIdler: Did manage it witht UTF-8
[07:13] <grothesk> It works now.
[07:13] <EvilIdler> grothesk: What fixed it?
[07:13] <grothesk> I really don't know...
[07:13] <tomasz> hi guys and gals :) kudos to developers, i'm sitting in front of my kubuntu since friday
[07:13] <grothesk> I remounted the partition...
[07:14] <RadiantFire> yes, they did do a good job
[07:14] <tomasz> i've got one question - i don't know how to setup system-wide fonts settings in kde
[07:15] <tomasz> i mean - defaults font settings for system
[07:15] <tomasz> i could do it for my kubuntu user but how to manage it system-wide
[07:16] <EvilIdler> grothesk: First time you mounted it since the upgrade, or something?
[07:16] <tomasz> i mean about something like "settings -> appearance -> font settings" but for all users
[07:18] <grothesk> EvilIdler: No. The partition ist automounted by fstab.
[07:18] <MidMark> why draw and calc icons are missing?
[07:18] <Midspeed> im back again, one more question!
[07:18] <Midspeed> how do you set permissions for a user on the shell?
[07:18] <grothesk> The only thing I did with that partition was 'chown'ing all the files on it, EvilIdler
[07:19] <grothesk> Midspeed: For a file?
[07:19] <m5m> I just upgraded last night to Dapper, and bash is complaining it can't find /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db when I try and use the 'locate' utility.  Any thoughts?
[07:19] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Weird. THat shouldn't really be related :P
[07:19] <Midspeed> for a user
[07:19] <grothesk> EvilIdler: No. It should not. But anyhow... It works now for me.
[07:19] <Midspeed> i wanna give permission for a user, more power??
[07:19] <Midspeed> :P
[07:19] <EvilIdler> grothesk: I'll note that as a possible fix if I see the problem :)
[07:20] <grothesk> Remounting?
[07:20] <grothesk> At least not 'rebooting' like in windows... ;-)
[07:21] <grothesk> Midspeed: Use 'chmod'
[07:22] <Midspeed> ok
[07:22] <Midspeed> thanks
[07:22] <grothesk> But which file do you want to change?
[07:22] <grothesk> You can 'sudo' everything in ubuntu.
[07:22] <Midspeed> my problem here is that i want a user to be able to log into X windows
[07:23] <gurumeditationer> adept crashed on me and I can't find the lock file I'm supposed to delete
[07:23] <MidMark> why draw and calc icons are missing?
[07:23] <gurumeditationer> I've deleted the locks in /var/lib/dpkg & /var/lib/apt
[07:23] <grothesk> Midspeed: That should be possible with out changing a file.
[07:23] <Midspeed> ok
[07:23] <Midspeed> so i sudo ???
[07:23] <gurumeditationer> I couldn't find anything in /var/lock
[07:24] <RadiantFire> gurumeditationer: run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:25] <gurumeditationer> Thanks, RadiantFire
[07:26] <gurumeditationer> One more question, on every boot a dosfsck is being done on my fat32 partition
[07:26] <gurumeditationer> it didn't do this everyboot on 5.10, how do I stop it? (I'm on a laptop, can't afford to wait ages on each boot)
[07:26] <EvilIdler> gurumeditationer: I've seen that when the partition is created in Linux. It somehow disappeared when recreated with Windows :/
[07:27] <gurumeditationer> Windows is on that partition and it was there when I got the laptop
[07:27] <EvilIdler> Then I dunno. Do a full surface scan, maybe?
[07:30] <MidMark> why draw and calc icons are missing?
[07:33] <lizardmane> Recommendations for program to find and delete duplicate files through several subdirectories ?
[07:34] <gurumeditationer> I'm trying to install sun-java5-jre and it's got one of those blue config screens
[07:34] <gurumeditationer> it won't let me "click" ok by pressing return though
[07:34] <jme__> lizardmane: duplicate as of 'ahving the same name' or 'having the same content' ?
[07:35] <lizardmane> jme__: same exact file ...
[07:35] <luh> hi
[07:35] <jme__> maouaoua
[07:36] <luh> i get a black screen when i boot from the kubuntu live cd - how can i get a working x?
[07:36] <jme__> lizardmane: man i took time to ask a clear question :) with simple options and stuff :)
[07:36] <lizardmane> jme__: huh?
[07:37] <lizardmane> jme__: duplicate files across several subdirectories
[07:37] <bobbyd> how do I get the cups admin password?
[07:37] <jme__> yep :)
[07:37] <bobbyd> (or set it?)
[07:37] <jme__> lizardmane: your question is too vague for me to understand it
[07:38] <lizardmane> jme__: do you know what a duplicate file is?
[07:38] <darx> what is the command to restart gdm?
[07:38] <lizardmane> jme__: to create one, as an example, use the cp command.
[07:38] <bobbyd> lizardmane, what's the question?
[07:39] <lizardmane> Recommendations for program to find and delete duplicate files through several subdirectories ?
[07:39] <lizardmane> bobbyd: Recommendations for program to find and delete duplicate files through several subdirectories ?
[07:39] <luh> has anyone an idea how to fix that?
[07:40] <darx> what is the command to restart gdm?
[07:42] <bobbyd> lizardmane, would you start with one directory and then delete all the other duplicates?
[07:43] <bobbyd> lizardmane, otherwise which one would you delete?
[07:44] <lizardmane> bobbyd: yes; the ultimate goal is to delete the duplicates; picking the "original" that is not deleted is arbitrary.
[07:44] <luh> nobody?
[07:45] <gurumeditationer> Is it just me or is the Azureus package broken?
[07:45] <lizardmane> bobbyd: I think this forum must not have any bash heads in it.  It must be for neophytes.
[07:45] <bobbyd> lizardmane, well, that would be pretty easy to write in python or another script language, but I don't know of an app to do it
[07:46] <bobbyd> lizardmane, the simplest way to do it would be to generate a list of all the files on the system, then just iterate through it making a new entry in an associative array for each item, when you get a duplicate, delete the file
[07:47] <bobbyd> luh, that's a tough one, do other live CDs work? what's your graphics card?
[07:47] <lizardmane> bobbyd: I just found a tool called 'fdupes' -- investigating ...
[07:48] <defrysk> sudo gdm restart
[07:48] <mark---> i want to check MB temperature; is there a command like 'cat /proc/cpuinf' for that?
[07:48] <Riskbreaker> is amarok supposed to use a buttload of ram? it's currently pushing 250,000k or so... and it's minimized in my system tray. is that normal?
[07:48] <bobbyd> lizardmane, someone must have done it before :)
[07:48] <luh> bobbyd, a sis - and yes - knopix 3.4 works fine
[07:48] <luh> but i wanted to check out the xorg.conf file
[07:48] <luh> and knoppix won't give me a xorg.conf file
[07:48] <bobbyd> hmm
[07:49] <bhna> mark---: look at sensors
[07:51] <lizardmane> when I access a removable drive plugged into the USB, the kde cd player stops playing the cd.  I can hit the play button again, but it will repeat this error.
[07:51] <mark---> bhna: thanksl.
[07:51] <luh> bobbyd, so you - or anyone else an idea?
[07:52] <Riskbreaker> i closed amarok and restarted it, and ram use is down to about 150,000k now, but that's still a lot... is something wrong?
[07:52] <bobbyd> luh, well, not really, try booting into text mode and then run x from the command line and check the Xlog errors
[07:53] <bobbyd> luh, you could just try ctrl-alt f1-2 to see the console when the live cd boots
[07:53] <wincide> hi, i'm with an ATI radeon 9700 , kde 3.5.3 and xgl , but i don't know how to configure compiz-KDE 'cause i don't find any manual for kde users, all are for gnome
[07:53] <luh> well - i was trying to have a good xorg.conf - and actually not having to mess around with the live cd (use kubuntu on the other machine already)
[07:53] <luh> maybe i should just install kubuntu on the other machine
[07:53] <wincide> do someone knows hot to configure (and use) that
[07:54] <wincide> *how
[07:54] <dergringo> An Application displays an error: "Can not get exclusive Access" how can I solve that?
[07:54] <Riskbreaker> wincide, give me a second, i'll show you what i did
[07:54] <bobbyd> dergringo, which app?
[07:54] <dergringo> bobbyd: Picard from www.musicbrainz.org
[07:54] <Riskbreaker> i'm not too much of an expert about Xgl but i did get working on kubuntu, so here's what i did
[07:55] <wincide> Riskbreaker:  problem is that i have transparency now, but don 't know if its composite (i didnt work few time ago) or compiz
[07:55] <Riskbreaker> is compiz showing up in ksysguard?
[07:55] <wincide> an how to configure package compiz-kde :)
[07:55] <bobbyd> dergringo, try running it from a console with sudo, like "sudo appname"
[07:55] <Riskbreaker> i'm pretty sure you're not supposed to use compiz-kde
[07:56] <Riskbreaker> compiz-kde is broken last i heard, you're supposed to use compiz-gnome, and gnome-window-decorator with it
[07:56] <wincide> Riskbreaker:  ok
[07:56] <pussfeller> now i have no sound
[07:56] <Riskbreaker> so anyway here's what i did, sudo nano /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[07:56] <wincide> but i'll not install gnome packages .. thx a lot Riskbreaker
[07:57] <Riskbreaker> you won't need gnome... just install compiz-gnome, that'll get you just the dependencies
[07:57] <max_> can anyone help me installing Nvidia drivers?
[07:58] <Jyzky> anyone?
[07:59] <Riskbreaker> it's up to you, if you're really that opposed to having title bars that look like gnome, then i can't really help you
[07:59] <Riskbreaker> you might try #xgl, but i'm not sure if anyone in that channel can help you either, wincide
[08:00] <wincide> Riskbreaker:  i don't like gnome packages 'cause i'm with baghira, and doesn't work apps with baghira "os-alike" bar
[08:00] <wincide> gnome apps i mean
[08:00] <SkrotFFS> !nvidia
[08:00] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:01] <Riskbreaker> ah, i see
[08:02] <paulvolk> Hello
[08:02] <pussfeller> does dapper do away the need for a custom .asoundrc
[08:02] <pussfeller> casue now my sound isnt working
[08:02] <paulvolk> How would I udate breezy to drapper in Kubuntu?
[08:02] <tristanmike> !upgrade
[08:03] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[08:03] <Riskbreaker> actually no, that doesn't change anything, you'd be running KDE apps
[08:03] <pussfeller> !sound
[08:03] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:03] <wincide> Riskbreaker:  thx a lot
[08:03] <wincide> :)
[08:03] <paulvolk> Ya I am running KDE how would I upgade then?
[08:03] <wincide> i dont know if ill try that
[08:04] <Jyzky> anyone help me with installing nvidia drivers?
[08:04] <wincide> i think ill wait
[08:04] <pussfeller> ah my master was muted
[08:04] <Riskbreaker> the only aspect of gnome you'd be using is gnome-window-decorator, which just handles the title bar and window borders. although that will pretty much kill your Mac OS X look
[08:04] <paulvolk> Can anyone help me upgrade to Drapper?
[08:05] <wincide> yes, and bahira is part of kwin-decorator styles
[08:05] <wincide> *baghira
[08:06] <Riskbreaker> ah then you definitely won't be able to use Xgl
[08:06] <Riskbreaker> compiz, which is what does all the specifal effects you want Xgl for,
[08:06] <Riskbreaker> replaces kwin
[08:06] <wincide> im using xgl
[08:06] <wincide> not compiz
[08:06] <buz> xgl is kinda useless without compiz
[08:06] <wincide> i prefer to wait than to loose my baghira style
[08:06] <wincide> :P
[08:06] <Riskbreaker> understandable
[08:07] <wincide> why?
[08:07] <Riskbreaker> why is it understandable?
[08:07] <Riskbreaker> or why xgl useless without compiz
[08:07] <tinin> wincide: prueba esto http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=689&p=1
[08:07] <homer77> paulvolk: How can i help u?
[08:07] <wincide> i prefer working comfortable better than working with the latest graphic styles... but with more system use
[08:08] <Riskbreaker> no i understand
[08:08] <paulvolk> Well I would like to know how to upgrade, homer77.
[08:08] <Riskbreaker> i just didn't know what you were asking =)
[08:08] <paulvolk> to drapper
[08:08] <Riskbreaker> paulvolk: dapper
[08:08] <paulvolk> sorry that is what I meant
[08:08] <Riskbreaker> =)
[08:09] <paulvolk> :)
[08:09] <paulvolk> homer you think you can help me?
[08:09] <homer77> paulvolk: maybe ...
[08:10] <paulvolk> ok...
[08:10] <paulvolk> so homer77 how would I go about doing it?
[08:10] <wincide> tinin:  eso funciona en ati ?
[08:10] <wincide> tinin:  lo probaste?
[08:10] <tinin> siiiiii
[08:10] <tinin> si
[08:10] <homer77> paulvolk: so actually u use Breezy?
[08:11] <paulvolk> on this machine yes
[08:11] <tinin> y si no funciona, simplemente lo desinstalas
[08:11] <Riskbreaker> so does anyone know why amarok's ram usage is so astronomical
[08:11] <paulvolk> I would like to upgrade it though
[08:11] <wincide> tinin:  y como hace? te aade en kdm una entrada mas para xgl ? o sustituye directamente todo y arranca con xgl directamente ? es por si no me funciona poder volver atras ...
[08:11] <buz> Riskbreaker: because your library is so huge?
[08:11] <tinin> sustituye directamente todo y arranca con xgl directamente
[08:11] <tinin> si no funciona, simplemente lo desinstalas
[08:12] <homer77> paulvolk: yes, yes ... but can't u use simply adept to upgrade?
[08:12] <paulvolk> How would I do that?
[08:12] <Riskbreaker> heh... yeah i guess my library is pretty huge
[08:12] <nrg88> hi, i have downloaded the kubuntu dvd, how can i add it as a repository?
[08:13] <Riskbreaker> all joking aside though, it's only about 3000 songs
[08:13] <buz> well amarok is huge
[08:13] <buz> it does tons of stuff
[08:13] <homer77> To be fair, i've to admit, that I didn't upgrade but installed dapper completely new ... Did you read the tutorials at wiki.ubuntu.com?
[08:13] <wincide> Riskbreaker:  thx
[08:13] <wincide> bye
[08:13] <buz> i dont think it really uses much more ram than itunes ;)
[08:13] <Riskbreaker> itunes is awful
[08:13] <Riskbreaker> i've never used it
[08:14] <buz> yeah i cant stand it either
[08:14] <Riskbreaker> amarok sure does use a lot more ram than foobar, though
[08:14] <nrg88> anyone? how can i add my kubuntu dvd to the repository list?
[08:16] <Jyzky> where can i get bintools
[08:16] <homer77> paulvolk: Have I been too rude ??? Bye paulvolk ....
[08:17] <homer77> paulvolk: Since you read this: Look for kubuntu-Upgrade at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DapperUpgrades?highlight=%28Upgrade%29 - but it's nearly the same ...
[08:19] <nrg88> anyone?
[08:19] <dergringo> nrg88: What do you want to do?
 anyone? how can i add my kubuntu dvd to the repository list?
[08:22] <nrg88> dergringo: ?
[08:23] <dergringo> nrg88: I ask you to describe your question because I don't understand this one
[08:23] <EvilIdler> nrg88: 'apt-cdrom add'
[08:24] <pm> who wants a package with shared-qt opera 8.54 for dapper?
[08:24] <h3sp4wn> then you need to install breezy's xlibs do you not ?
[08:24] <EvilIdler> I use the betas of Opera - launchpad-net doesn't work properly in 8.54
[08:25] <pm> you don't have to install breezy's xlibs
[08:25] <h3sp4wn> The latest weekly doesn't have a static version for dapper (300 does but 315 doesn't)
[08:25] <EvilIdler> I just use the etch builds
[08:26] <h3sp4wn> I don't even use it much
[08:26] <nrg88> thanks EvilIdler
[08:26] <pm> i rebuilt it and threw away xlibs as a dependency
[08:26] <EvilIdler> I use it much, so I get to know the different versions and their problems
[08:27] <pm> what are xlibs needed in opera for?
[08:27] <EvilIdler> pm: Most X programs use the libs on way or another
[08:28] <pm> EvilIdler, tar.gz doesn't require any dependencies (obvious) but it works anyway
[08:29] <pm> tar.gz = tar.gz version of opera :)
[08:29] <EvilIdler> pm: The etch deb is likewise :)
[08:29] <pm> anyway here's the link http://rapidshare.de/files/22196871/opera_8.54-20060330.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb.html
[08:29] <EvilIdler> For 9, that is
[08:31] <Otvald> Hey.... anyone using KDevelop? I seem to be missing a lot of the documentation (in KDevassistant)
[08:32] <simp> what is the name of KDE default browser?
[08:32] <pm> konqueror
[08:32] <Memorice> simp: Konqueror
[08:33] <simp> ok thank you Memorice
[08:33] <simp> i acidentaly deleted it
[08:34] <simp> is there a way to reinstall konqueror ? sudo apt-get install Konkueror doesn't work
[08:34] <iNiku> sudo apt-get install konqueror should work.
[08:34] <TehUni> i just installed ubuntu and the nvidia drivers and it feels sluggish. i'm on an xp64 3500+ w/ 2.5 gigs of ram and a 6600gt. what should i check?
[08:34] <iNiku> Konkueror definitely will not..
[08:34] <bobbyd> Otvald, I think you have to install it seperately
[08:34] <Memorice> simp: in stead of reinstall you should use install
[08:35] <Memorice> simp: sudo apt-get install konqueror
[08:35] <simp> tryied that allready
[08:35] <simp> didn't work
[08:35] <iNiku> simp: didn't work how?
[08:35] <Otvald> TehUni: Are you using the nvidia drivers?
[08:35] <Memorice> simp: maybe go to Add/Remove Programs
[08:35] <TehUni> Otvald: yea. instead of nv.
[08:35] <Memorice> simp: maybe that way will work
[08:36] <simp> it didn't iNiku E: Couldn't find package Konqueror
[08:36] <simp> ok Memorice i'l see if it's there
[08:36] <bobbyd> TehUni, what's sluggish about it?
[08:36] <iNiku> simp: it's konqueror, not Konqueror
[08:36] <tyfon_> its w/o capitalization yes
[08:36] <iNiku> simp: file names in unix are case sensitive
[08:36] <bobbyd> TehUni, do gxlinfo and check it's ok, then xvinfo
[08:36] <Otvald> bobbyd, What did you install besides kdevelop?
[08:36] <simp> oh
[08:36] <TehUni> bobbyd: just feels a little unresponsive. was quicker on my last install
[08:36] <bobbyd> Otvald, I don't remember :)
[08:36] <simp> now iNiku i get this:
[08:37] <bobbyd> TehUni, maybe you had kopnqueror preloaded?
[08:37] <simp> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:37] <Otvald> bobbyd, ok.... Just have to do it the hard way then....
[08:37] <iNiku> simp: you have some other package manager running
[08:37] <TehUni> bobbyd: what you mean?
[08:37] <simp> ok
[08:37] <iNiku> simp: synaptic or adept or something
[08:37] <iNiku> simp: you can only run one at a time
[08:37] <TehUni> bobbyd: well, i'm still running the 366 kernel. would switching to a k7 help?
[08:37] <simp> ok i'm installing konqueror right now
[08:37] <TehUni> *386
[08:38] <bobbyd> Otvald, just ask in TehUni try it :) it'll keep yor old kernel
[08:38] <TehUni> ok
[08:38] <TehUni> how do i do that?
[08:40] <simp> iNiku: how can i use wpa?
[08:45] <simp> why does nothing show up on my desktop?
[08:46] <TehUni> what modules should be loaded in my xorg.conf? i have 8 in there now. are they all necessary?
[08:47] <brandon_> i'm having some difficulty downloading the index file for the kubuntu kde-latest repo
[08:48] <Blissex> TehUni: not all necessary probably, but usually they don't hurt.
[08:49] <TehUni> ok
[08:49] <james_xxx> kde-latest?? i am still looking for a way to fix my screen sabers. some people (maybe everyone) running kubuntu dapper lost their screen savers after upgrading to KDE3.5.3...
[08:49] <TehUni> just trying to figure out why it feels sluggish
[08:49] <TehUni> Blissex: also, i had "RenderAccell" "0" in my screen section
[08:49] <TehUni> does that disable hardware accelleration?
[08:50] <Blissex> TehUni: yes, for the RENDER extension, which is used for antialiasing and special effects.
[08:50] <TehUni> ok
[08:50] <TehUni> so should i turn that back on?
[08:50] <Blissex> TehUni: but note that RENDER accel is buggy in many drivers.
[08:51] <TehUni> ok
[08:51] <TehUni> Blissex: i'm using the nvidia driver for my 6600gt
[08:51] <TehUni> just feels sluggish.
[08:51] <Blissex> TehUni: I imagined it was NVIDIA... Because thats one of the drivers where most releases do have RENDER accel problems.
[08:51] <TehUni> oh really
[08:52] <TehUni> should i leave it off, then?
[08:52] <Blissex> TehUni: However recent releases are more or less OK I think. Seems to mostly work here.
[08:52] <TehUni> k
[08:52] <TehUni> i'll give it a shot
[08:52] <Blissex> TehUni: however font antialiasing is still slow with the NVIDIA driver even if RENDER accel is on.
[08:52] <brandon_> james_xxx can you activate it in your system settings to tet it?
[08:53] <TehUni> Blissex: and coolbits?
[08:53] <james_xxx> brandon_: yeah, it tests fine
[08:53] <Blissex> TehUni: CoolBits is good, it enabled overclocking etc.
[08:53] <simp> how to use WPA with wireless assistant 0.5.5
[08:53] <simp> ?
[08:53] <TehUni> ok
[08:53] <TehUni> will turn that on too, then
[08:53] <TehUni> thanks
[08:53] <brandon_> james_xxx are you using kdm or gdm?
[08:54] <james_xxx> brandon_: hmmm, i am not sure lol
[08:55] <BlueLagun1> hello, I've installed XGL, but my window decorations have disappeared.  Most of what i've found on google relates to gnome tho, so does anyone have any idea to fix this?
[08:55] <brandon_> well, i'm using gdm and i'm prettys ure the screensaver works, although i'm much mroe concerned with shutting the monitor off after a certain period of time. that's where the real screensaving and power saving is, not making neat garbage happen onscreen
[08:55] <tyfon_> gnome-window-decorator should paint decorations in kde too
[08:55] <james_xxx> brandon_: right, but it bugs me tha the screen savers won't work
[08:56] <brandon_> it BUGS you
[08:56] <brandon_> email riddell a death threat or soemthing
[08:57] <james_xxx> brandon_: well i am not up to threatening anyone yet, but i did tell riddell about it
[08:57] <BlueLagun1> tyfon_: according to ps aux it's running
[08:57] <brandon_> the president of these united states has taught me that threats of violence are the way to get things done
[08:57] <boarf> bonsoir
[08:57] <tyfon_> BlueLagun1: might be a bug, its alpha software.. it works with one i compiled from source, not the one i got via apt-get
[08:59] <dmoyne> Hello ! ; I experience a pb in installing mySQL ; anybody to help
[08:59] <BlueLagun1> ah
[08:59] <brandon_> BlueLagun1: i got aiglx working yesterday, and it worked better for me than xgl did, although it was still too slow to be practical, and my avview tv app didn't work properly
[08:59] <BlueLagun1> mine is apt-get
[08:59] <james_xxx> brandon_: yeah bush is teaching that continuously acting like an a-hole and threatening everyone all the time has its consequences too:-P
[08:59] <BlueLagun1> I use nvidia, what're you guys using?
[09:00] <kronoz> BlueLagun1: nvidia geforce 6200
[09:00] <brandon_> i use a seasoned ati card, minus that fglrx or whatever the crap its called
[09:00] <GameOver69> can someone help me..... ever since i upgraded to the new kubuntu... my network card names are screwed up and dont seem to work properly
[09:00] <GameOver69> my wirelss card used to be wlan0, now its eth1
[09:00] <BlueLagun1> brandon_: that's prolly your problem
[09:00] <GameOver69> and doesnt work
[09:01] <BlueLagun1> brandon_: from what I know, gflrx is the 3d acceleration driver
[09:01] <BlueLagun1> be right back
[09:01] <GameOver69> and when i dhclient the card, it always says network is down
[09:01] <brandon_> BlueLagun1: the ati "drivers" aren't designed for my card, but i still have better 3d accel with a standard ati kernel driver than someone running on a laptop
[09:01] <brandon_> i get about 1100 fps out of glxgears
[09:02] <james_xxx> now i am scared i will have the NSS at my door for talking about bush like that....    :o|
[09:02] <james_xxx> i am convinced they watch this chat room
[09:02] <brandon_> james_xxx don't you trust the government?
[09:02] <brandon_> they care about the workers
[09:02] <simp> no james_xxx uncle bill waches this channel ;)
[09:02] <james_xxx> brandon_: why of course....
[09:03] <brandon_> won't somebody please think of the children?
[09:03] <RadiantFire> lol
[09:03] <RadiantFire> thats entertaining
[09:03] <james_xxx> children shmildren....
[09:03] <RadiantFire> meanie!
[09:03] <RadiantFire> children are the future
[09:03] <GameOver69> anyone?
[09:04] <simp> how to use WPA with wireless assistant 0.5.5?
[09:05] <dergringo> simp: use it with knetworkmanager
[09:05] <simp> ok
[09:05] <simp> i'l give it a try
[09:05] <ubuntu> is there any way in the kubuntu installer to select "/" as reiser fs instead of ext3?
[09:06] <GameOver69> dergringo, you any good with knetwork manager?
[09:06] <james_xxx> i plugged in an ancient scanner to this computer with an old scsi cable, and it would not turn on... would anyone know why? when i plug it into an old, old computer (as old as the comp :-P) it turns on...
[09:06] <james_xxx> as old as the scanner*
[09:07] <dergringo> GameOver69: I don't understand your Question.
[09:08] <GameOver69> dergringo, well basically im having a problem with knetworkmanager
[09:08] <GameOver69> i was wondering if you were experiecned enough to help
[09:09] <dergringo> GameOver69: So what is your problem?
[09:09] <GameOver69> dergringo, well basically it stopped working
[09:09] <GameOver69> in the sense that it doesnt find either one of my wirelss cards
[09:09] <starkej> Does any one know if it is possible in the Kubuntu Installer to set up /, /home as reiser fs instead of ext3?
[09:09] <GameOver69> so i have to resort to using iwconfig, and dhclient to get it running again
[09:09] <dergringo> GameOver69: Do you use dapper or breezy?
[09:09] <starkej> of Dapper
[09:10] <GameOver69> dapper
[09:10] <GameOver69> dergringo, it was working fine for months.... and now it just stopped working
[09:11] <dergringo> GameOver69: pastebin the following things: iwconfig, /etc/network/interfaces, wpa_supplicant.conf (I you have any)
[09:11] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can install dekorator?
[09:12] <GameOver69> ok one sec
[09:13] <DarkSpirit> Hello
[09:13] <dergringo> hi
[09:13] <starkej> is it normally this hard to get a question answered?
[09:13] <GameOver69> dergringo, where do i find wpa_supplicant.conf
[09:13] <DarkSpirit> I was wondering on what Torrent Clients Kubuntu has.
[09:14] <Jack_Sparrow> My laserjet 1100 does not seem to print. Anyone care to help me with the settings
[09:14] <dergringo> GameOver69: Where ever you touched it. May you don't have one
[09:14] <starkej> by default, it has KTorrent
[09:14] <GameOver69> ill do a search
[09:14] <dergringo> starkej: In partitio manager you can choose the fs
[09:14] <dergringo> +n
[09:15] <Virtus92> someone DUTCH?!
[09:15] <DarkSpirit> g
[09:15] <Kmirno> Virtus92: maybe #ubuntu-de ?
[09:15] <Virtus92> Zijn hier nog nederlanders?
[09:15] <DarkSpirit> ?
[09:15] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can install dekorator?
[09:15] <dergringo> !den
[09:15] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dergringo
[09:15] <Virtus92> adept
[09:15] <GameOver69> dergringo, http://pastebin.com/758215
[09:16] <starkej> dergringo, the options are ext3, ext2, jfs, xfs, fat16, linux swap, not reiser
[09:16] <kronoz> !easysource
[09:16] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:16] <starkej> so does that mean no?
[09:17] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can install dekorator?
[09:17] <dergringo> GameOver69: uncomment the following line: # auto eth1
[09:18] <GameOver69> dergringo, ok and what effect will this have?
[09:19] <GameOver69> and uncomment means take out the # symbol?
[09:19] <TehUni> will xgl work with 2 monitors setup in twinview?
[09:19] <dergringo> GameOver69: have a look at the lines above that one you uncommented
[09:19] <TehUni> coz i keep getting compiz errors saying "no managable screens"
[09:19] <dergringo> GameOver69: yes, just remove the #
[09:20] <GameOver69> dergringo, ok now eth1 is my wired port/card
[09:20] <GameOver69> eth0 and wlan0 are my wireless
[09:21] <DarkSpirit> What Torrent clients are their for Kubuntu ?
[09:21] <dergringo> GameOver69: just make sure that you have: auto <iface name> for each wlan interface
[09:22] <DarkSpirit> I was thinking of using uTorrent with WINE but it does work but the speed is not good
[09:22] <dergringo> DarkSpirit: KTorrent
[09:22] <DarkSpirit> Its too basic
[09:22] <dergringo> DarkSpirit: Azureus
[09:22] <DarkSpirit> Too much of a hog
[09:22] <GameOver69> ok i will try it out
[09:23] <GameOver69> brb
[09:23] <jeekl> Hi, I tried to plug in an external monitor to my lappie. The external monitor was listed among the ones in guidance but the screen is all wrong. IU getto scroll on the screen to see it all. Any clues howto fix it?
[09:23] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can install dekorator?
[09:24] <simp> nocloud: does sudo apt-get install dekorator work?
[09:24] <jeekl> nocloud: get it from KubuntuDEs repository
[09:24] <dergringo> nocloud: sudo apt-get install dekorator
[09:24] <nocloud> sudo apt-get install dekorator does not work
[09:25] <simp> do you have repositives installed?
[09:25] <simp> !msg ubotu repositives
[09:25] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, simp
[09:25] <nocloud> i get this message: Couldn't find package dekorator
[09:25] <simp> !msg ubotu mp3
[09:25] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, simp
[09:25] <simp> !msg ubotu mp3
[09:25] <dergringo> nocloud, nocloud, simp: add this repo: deb http://archive.kubuntu.de/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[09:25] <nocloud> addthat to sources.list?
[09:26] <dergringo> nocloud: yes
[09:26] <simp> this might help as well nocloud: https://wiki.kubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:27] <jeekl> No one knows anythig about extra monitors?
[09:27] <DarkSpirit> Anyone know the name of the Linux GUI Firewall ?
[09:27] <HymnToLife> there are several
[09:27] <jeekl> DarkSpirit: Kmyfirewall, Guarddog, Firestarter
[09:27] <HymnToLife> the best known is firestarter
[09:27] <HymnToLife> !firestarter
[09:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[09:28] <RogueJediX> Hey, what's this Skim thing?
[09:28] <imbrandon> a frontend to scim ;)
[09:29] <DarkSpirit> Thanks HymnToLife :D I am installing it now
[09:29] <RogueJediX> So, I guess the question should've been what's scim
[09:29] <linuxmonkey> wassup
[09:29] <imbrandon> Smart Common Input Method
[09:29] <pekay> !dsp
[09:29] <ubotu> pekay: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:29] <RogueJediX> Ach so. Thanks
[09:30] <Skaman> hey guys having some problem updating to dapper could anyone hel me?
[09:30] <imbrandon> RogueJediX: http://www.scim-im.org/
[09:30] <pekay> aff, anyone had a problem with Skype saying "Problem with sound device" ? :p
[09:30] <pekay> i have no /dev/dsp
[09:30] <HymnToLife> !tell Skaman about justask
[09:30] <Skaman> i got this error:" no /home/skaman/.xsession"
[09:30] <andrisp> hi all.. what does io-slave mean ?
[09:31] <ctothej> I need some help with c++ in kdevelop. Anyone here use kdevelop to compile simple apps before?
[09:31] <Skaman> "no session managers, no window managers and no terminal emulators found, aborting"
[09:31] <imbrandon> ctothej: try #kubuntu-devel
[09:31] <DarkSpirit> For some reason whenever i install somethign it does not make a shortcut of it
[09:31] <ctothej> imbrandon: thanks
[09:34] <Jack_Sparrow> imbrandon got a sec to help be change the icon for my start menu
[09:34] <RogueJediX> Erm, could anyone tell me which package contains alsaconf?
[09:34] <Skaman> HymnToLife i thing something got wrong updating...kdm is not installeed :S
[09:34] <nocloud> i added the line to sources.list....still cant install dekorator....
[09:34] <nocloud> i get this message: Couldn't find package dekorator
[09:35] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can install dekorator?
[09:36] <buz> its in the rep for me
[09:36] <buz> did you run apt-get update?
[09:36] <james_xxx> i plugged in an ancient scanner to this computer with an old scsi cable, and it would not turn on... would anyone know why? when i plug it into an old, old computer (as old as the scanner :-P) it turns on...
[09:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Are you plugging it into a scsi port or into a partallel port
[09:37] <Jack_Sparrow> on the pc
[09:37] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can install dekorator?
[09:37] <james_xxx> Jack_Sparrow: to be honest, i am not sure
[09:37] <Skaman> how can i make the update Breezy to dapper from the beginning?
[09:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Are you sure the computer you are trying to plug into has a scsi card
[09:37] <imbrandon> !upgrade
[09:37] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[09:38] <james_xxx> Jack_Sparrow: do most computers not have scsi card?
[09:38] <james_xxx> cards*
[09:38] <slow-motion> bbl maybe
[09:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Correct most do NOT
[09:39] <John-Z> Can anyone recommend a set of packages for sound support, like sound for streaming audio and video?
[09:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Most do have parallel port LPT1
[09:39] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can install dekorator?
[09:39] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry nocloud
[09:39] <John-Z> apt-get install
[09:39] <BanskuZ> There's deb somewhere
[09:39] <imbrandon> !repeat
[09:39] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Please give it 10 to 15 minutes before asking a second time, thanks.
[09:40] <nocloud> i was able to find the dekorator source....
[09:40] <nocloud> is there a way to install from that?
[09:41] <james_xxx> Jack_Sparrow: ok i am learning something new... i am able to plug this scanner into my new computer, but when i do this the scanner does not power on. when i plug it into this old computer, it does power on... i suppose this means that the old computer has a scsi card and the new one does not. i used to use this scanner on the old computer years ago. i recently got it back out... i have xubuntu on that computer now, and am trying to ge
[09:41] <james_xxx>  success yet.
[09:41] <Jack_Sparrow> James, you can go into CMOS setup when first powering up and verify it has a printer port
[09:41] <james_xxx> Jack_Sparrow: is the plug for the LPT1 and for some scsi the same?
[09:41] <andrisp> maybe somebody can help me and look here - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=5643.0 ..
[09:42] <Jack_Sparrow> I want to say yes on the old scsi
[09:42] <simp> where is konqueror installed by default?
[09:42] <iNiku> Jack_Sparrow, james_xxx, yes, some old scsi connectors were like printer connectors
[09:42] <james_xxx> iNiku: ok thanks
[09:42] <Jack_Sparrow> I would think if your  old pc had a scsi it would have been a plug in card and not directly off the motherboard
[09:42] <nixternal> iNiku: you are going way back to parallel scsi days there
[09:42] <Skaman> ubotu : i follwed the wiki but porobably something went wrong
[09:42] <ubotu> Skaman: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:43] <nixternal> talk about old school...you just did ;)
[09:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Ouch, that hurts
[09:43] <iNiku> nixternal: yes, but that was used on scanners
[09:43] <iNiku> nixternal: at least I seem to remember seeing that years ago
[09:44] <John-Z> Can anyone recommend a set of packages for sound support, like sound for streaming audio and video?
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Again with the AAGE..
[09:44] <james_xxx> like i said , this scanner is at least 10 years old
[09:44] <nixternal> used on hard drives, cd-roms, scanners.....everythign scsi at one point used to be parallel scsi
[09:44] <GameOver69> dergringo, i got it working man.... this is what my interface looks like now... tell me if i should leave it this way http://pastebin.com/758267
[09:44] <simp> where is konqueror installed by default?
[09:44] <nixternal> i have some old 50mb parallel scsi drives at thte office for good times
[09:44] <nocloud> does anybody know of a good temperature monitoring, fan control program for kubuntu that i can use on my laptop?
[09:44] <james_xxx> it is a canosan 600. i would LOVE to get it to work with x/ubuntu
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> I would try ksensors
[09:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Look at your old pc
[09:45] <dergringo> GameOver69: why did you uncomment this lines: # iface eth1 inet dhcp ?
[09:45] <DarkSpirit> Can someone give me that list of WINDOWS to Linux Programs?
[09:45] <Jack_Sparrow> IS where you plugged in the scanner a card slot?
[09:45] <kronoz> DarkSpirit: what do you mean?
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> If it is do you have a free card slot of the same type in your new box
[09:46] <GameOver69> because i thought it had something to dow ith my problem
[09:46] <kronoz> DarkSpirit: like alternative programs?
[09:46] <GameOver69> network manager configures all thath stuff so i figure i should uncomment it
[09:46] <DarkSpirit> kronoz: Well someone posted it before, it shows Windows Programs and their Linux Counterpart
[09:46] <dergringo> GameOver69: nono you could leave them the essential one ist the "auto wlan0", etc.
[09:46] <james_xxx> Jack_Sparrow: i do have a few free dard slots... i may move that card from my old computer to my new one
[09:47] <james_xxx> card*
[09:47] <kronoz> DarkSpirit: ah, i see
[09:47] <iNiku> nixternal: actually, aren't all SCSI connections parallel?
[09:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Just pay close attention to the edge connector
[09:47] <GameOver69> so can u show me what it should look like, and i will replace it
[09:47] <iNiku> nixternal: apart from serial SCSI which is pretty new
[09:48] <kronoz> DarkSpirit:  http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/11684.html
[09:49] <iNiku> nixternal: or not that new, but kinda specialized... such as FC-AL
[09:49] <dergringo> GameOver69: this one is mine: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/758278
[09:51] <GameOver69> dergringo, well i have a question sinc ei uncommented it... how come it works now? i dont get this stuff :(
[09:51] <John-Z> !sound
[09:51] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:51] <dergringo> GameOver69: isn't it working?
[09:51] <gil_> ok chicos i need some help with my suspend-to-ram
[09:51] <GameOver69> dergringo, now it is
[09:51] <simp> where is konqueror installed by default?
[09:51] <gil_> i have tried everything and it does not work....
[09:51] <GameOver69> but im afraid if i change it back it wont
[09:52] <dergringo> GameOver69: so make a backup first of all
[09:52] <GameOver69> i already did
[09:52] <kronoz> simp: konsole > whereis konqueror
[09:52] <simp> ok kronzo
[09:52] <GameOver69> see the wierd thing is the network manager wiki, says to take all that stuff out
[09:52] <simp> kronoz *
[09:52] <james_xxx> ok question... how do i install a 'kernel scsi driver' for my scsi adapter?? would that not just come with k/x/ubuntu?
[09:52] <GameOver69> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager?action=show&redirect=NetworkmanagerHowto
[09:52] <GameOver69> if you go to the bottom u will see
[09:53] <nixternal> iNiku: sorry...yes you are correct..but im talking pin-out familiarity...not pin-out is way different...im talking pre rs232 pinout
[09:53] <dergringo> GameOver69: hm I don't know why they are writing this. It works fine for me like this
[09:53] <DarkSpirit> What BitTorrent Clients are there for Linux ?
[09:53] <james_xxx> somehow i am thinking that my xubuntu machine has no support for my scsi card
[09:53] <gil_> iNiku: you tried helping me yesterday....still not smoke
[09:53] <GameOver69> oh well i will do as you say and hope it still works
[09:53] <GameOver69> dergringo, i have another question for you if u dont mind
[09:54] <gil_> any other suggestions?
[09:54] <dergringo> GameOver69: hurry up my party is waiting ;)
[09:54] <iNiku> nixternal: actually, rs232 is not a pinout specification and the pinout that is typically used for rs232 was never used for scsi as far as I know, but I know what you mean :)
[09:54] <nixternal> ya..you know where i was going
[09:54] <GameOver69> ok on my other computer
[09:54] <iNiku> nixternal: the centronics connector was used for some SCSI-1 devices
[09:54] <nixternal> before rs232 was on the back of a system ;)
[09:54] <GameOver69> i upgraded to dapper, and all the network settings changed
[09:54] <GameOver69> for example
[09:55] <GameOver69> wireless card was wlan0
[09:55] <GameOver69> now its eth0
[09:55] <iNiku> gil_: I did? what was/is your problem?
[09:55] <GameOver69> and i wouldnt care.... but when i iwconfig and dhclient.... it never works
[09:55] <GameOver69> keeps saying network is down
[09:55] <gil_> i have a toshiba m40 with problems  for suspend-to-ram
[09:55] <gil_> cant get it to resume
[09:55] <iNiku> gil_: oh yeah... a few days ago, I think?
[09:55] <dergringo> GameOver69: sudo ifup <interface name>
[09:56] <gil_> i have looked into the settings in etc/default/acpi-default
[09:56] <ShastaMaroon> I'm having some samba write issues...  under [homes]  I have writeable = yes, but I still can't create files, windows claims access denied.  I have another share, also writeable = yes, and it gives me the same problem.  Under webmin, both shares say "read/write to all known users" - any idea what settings I should look at?
[09:56] <gil_> it all looks good
[09:56] <GameOver69> well i had this problem on my laptop to, and there was a way to changea ll that back... i just dont remember, do you have any clue
[09:56] <GameOver69> i think i tried the if up, and says something like unknown interface or something
[09:57] <joch> ShastaMaroon: does the user you use to log on to the share have write access to the files and directories?
[09:57] <iNiku> GameOver69: what does iwconfig show as your wireless interface?
[09:57] <dergringo> GameOver69: the interface names are just aliases but I dont know where to change this. Have a look at google or ask inhere
[09:57] <ShastaMaroon> joch on the unix system?  yes.
[09:57] <iNiku> gil_: your problem was that it hangs on resume, right?
[09:57] <GameOver69> i ask and no one answered before :(
[09:57] <iNiku> GameOver69: the interfaces are mapped in /etc/iftabs
[09:57] <gil_> iNiku: yes
[09:57] <ShastaMaroon> joch also my logins and passwords on both machines are identical.
[09:57] <iNiku> GameOver69: er, /etc/iftab
[09:58] <dergringo> Hey Guys! How to change the network interface alias? Common!
[09:58] <joch> ShastaMaroon: okay, then it's strange
[09:58] <ShastaMaroon> joch I've had samba working in the past under fedora core...I'm just really out of ideas on this one
[09:58] <iNiku> dergringo: I just said how
[09:58] <joch> ShastaMaroon: have you checked the samba logs?
[09:58] <GameOver69> iNiku, any reason why it would have changed
[09:58] <dergringo> iNiku: I am sorry and thank you
[09:59] <ShastaMaroon> joch let me check them now
[09:59] <iNiku> GameOver69: did you upgrade or reinstall?
[09:59] <GameOver69> dergringo, and when i iwconfig it shows the network and what not.... it just wont work when i DHCLIENT it
[09:59] <GameOver69> iNiku, upgrade
[09:59] <iNiku> GameOver69: which interface shows the network etc. in iwconfig?
[10:00] <dergringo> GameOver69: I am sorry I have to leave now, but i am sure you will get some help in here. Just ask your question clearly so that everyone can understand them :)
[10:00] <iNiku> GameOver69: well, dunno why it changed, but the if renaming that is done based on /etc/iftab can cause problems sometimes
[10:00] <iNiku> GameOver69: which wireless card do you have?
[10:00] <dergringo> bye bye guys
[10:01] <ShastaMaroon> joch also when I try to open the share I created it crashes samba and windows explorer.  The log says something interesting though...  the share name is pub, and it says couldn't find service pub.com, couldn't find service pub.ink, etc, etc
[10:01] <GameOver69> ok thanks dergringo
[10:01] <GameOver69> iNiku, linksys
[10:02] <nrg88> when i try to install a style, i get this error message: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[10:02] <joch> ShastaMaroon: strange. well, i don't know what the issue seem to be, i'm afraid
[10:02] <nrg88> do i have to install the xorg-dev packages?
[10:02] <ShastaMaroon> joch makes two of us.  thanks anyway
[10:02] <joch> ShastaMaroon: good luck sorting it out
[10:02] <iNiku> GameOver69: okay, what do you have in /etc/iftab?
[10:02] <ShastaMaroon> gunna need it :-/
[10:02] <joch> ShastaMaroon: have you tried connecting to it from a different machine?
[10:03] <GameOver69> i have to go to that compiuiter
[10:03] <John-Z> !sound
[10:03] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[10:03] <GameOver69> iNiku, ill brb
[10:03] <iNiku> GameOver69: sure
[10:04] <darkfusion> hey guys i'm having problem with this new ubuntu . It seems my internet will only work for like 10sec when I first boot up but then it will just stop on me
[10:04] <simp> are you sure it is configured properly?
[10:05] <simp> try to change the media type from 100mbs to 10mbs
[10:05] <darkfusion> everything is default from install
[10:06] <simp> try changing the media type from auto to 10mbs*
[10:06] <simp> i had that problem in windows...
[10:06] <darkfusion> how would I do that?
[10:07] <simp> do you have knetworkmanager? i think it had some settings about it
[10:07] <simp> not sure
[10:07] <GameOver69> iNiku, ok it has eth0 mac, and eth1 mac and their numbers
[10:07] <fatejudger> is it possible to get the usplash shutdown working again?
[10:07] <simp> didn't have to do this in linux so don't know properly darkfusion
[10:07] <fatejudger> usplash broke right before the Dapper release
[10:08] <gil_> iNiku: so...what is the good word...any idea about this suspend-to-ram
[10:08] <iNiku> GameOver69: okay, try commenting them out and rebooting
[10:08] <simp> !tell fatejudger about usplash
[10:09] <iNiku> GameOver69: then you should probably have the wired ethernet as eth0 and wireless as wlan0
[10:10] <GameOver69> iNiku, ok resterting now.... but why would that have been added there? or commented?
[10:10] <iNiku> gil_: sorry, I don't really have any good ideas... suspend/resume is iffy on many laptops
[10:11] <fatejudger> simp: I don't want to customize usplash, I just want it to work properly
[10:11] <iNiku> GameOver69: well, the idea of that file is to tie the device names to certain devices. normally interfaces get named in the order they get initialized at boot time so if you swap cards around or something, your interface names might change
[10:11] <simp> fatejudger sorry then i can't help :)
[10:11] <simp> :(*
[10:11] <GameOver69> iNiku, i never swapped anything :(
[10:11] <iNiku> GameOver69: when you put the names and mac addresses in /etc/iftab, the interfaces get renamed when they are initialized so you'll always have the same name pointing to the same interface
[10:12] <GameOver69> iNiku, it didnt work... it is sitll eth1, instead of wlan0
[10:12] <iNiku> GameOver69: no, but the upgrade changed something
[10:13] <iNiku> GameOver69: well, that's fine. you said it was eth0 before?
[10:13] <GameOver69> no, wlan0
[10:13] <GameOver69> eth0 is the ethernet
[10:13] <iNiku> GameOver69: you said it was eth0 after the upgrade
[10:13] <GameOver69> no, eth1
[10:13] <GameOver69> used to be wlan0
[10:13] <iNiku> GameOver69: well, eth0 is what you said, but okay.
[10:13] <GameOver69> lol ok, if i said it i apologize
[10:14] <iNiku> GameOver69: do an ifconfig eth1 and see if the mac address listed there is the same as in /etc/iftab on the eth1 line that you commented out
[10:15] <kronoz> is kopete being updated in the kde lastest repo atm?
[10:15] <Toothpick> Is there a way to install the kubuntu cd to hard drive as a "live cd" for easy remastering and then create the iso from the running system?
[10:15] <iNiku> GameOver69: just to make sure that it was okay
[10:16] <XVampireX> Hi
[10:16] <kronoz> hi
[10:16] <kronoz> !info kopete
[10:16] <ubotu> kopete: (instant messenger for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 4214 kB, Installed size: 14332 kB
[10:16] <XVampireX> Where can I get ffmpeg-0.4.9 ?
[10:16] <GameOver69> iNiku, so whats next boss
[10:16] <XVampireX> I need the one from around 12/2005
[10:17] <iNiku> GameOver69: so, the mac addresses were the same?
[10:17] <XVampireX> For the sake of stepmania
[10:17] <GameOver69> iNiku, i dont think so, but ill check
[10:19] <GameOver69> iNiku, they are different
[10:19] <iNiku> GameOver69: um... what are different?
[10:20] <fatejudger> !fglrx
[10:20] <ubotu> it has been said that fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:20] <iNiku> GameOver69: the hw address in ifconfig eth1 and the mac address on the eth1 line in /etc/iftab?
[10:23] <GameOver69> iNiku, they are the same
[10:23] <iNiku> GameOver69: well, that's what I asked you to check :)
[10:23] <GameOver69> iNiku, your good
[10:23] <iNiku> GameOver69: so what was *not* the same, then?
[10:23] <joch> Toothpick: probably not
[10:23] <GameOver69> the mac addresses in iftab
[10:24] <Toothpick> oh well, that would make remastering simple.
[10:24] <iNiku> GameOver69: for eth0 and eth1? yeah, they should be
[10:24] <Toothpick> I use that with the knoppix installer.
[10:24] <joch> Toothpick: okay. i'm note sure though. it's just a guess
[10:24] <iNiku> GameOver69: okay. so how are you trying to set up the wireless connection?
[10:24] <joch> * not
[10:24] <GameOver69> iNiku, well network manager isnt working so.... i use iwconfig eth1, essid, and then key restricted
[10:24] <GameOver69> then dhclient eth1
[10:25] <Evixo> hi, I automatically mount windows shares in kubuntu 6.06 but I don't want the shortcuts appearing on the desktop .. how do I take care of that ?
[10:25] <iNiku> GameOver69: key restricted? you probably don't want that
[10:25] <GameOver69> i do
[10:25] <iNiku> GameOver69: are you sure?
[10:25] <GameOver69> iNiku, yes i have a secured network
[10:26] <iNiku> GameOver69: yes, but that's not really what "key restricted" means
[10:26] <iNiku> GameOver69: normally you just do a "key <your wep key in hex>"
[10:26] <iNiku> GameOver69: anyway... you're using wep, not wpa?
[10:26] <sheldonc_> GameOver69: knetworkmanager isnt working?
[10:26] <GameOver69> no
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i fix gpg errors from kubuntu.org?
[10:26] <GameOver69> doesnt find the hardware
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> in apt-get update
[10:27] <iNiku> GameOver69: or in other words, your access point is configured for wep, not wpa?
[10:28] <XVampireX> Can anyone help me with ffmpeg?
[10:28] <uniq> metamorfozis: do as kubuntu.org says. for kde 3.5.2: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php says 'wget ... something.. and apt-key.. something' thas what you want to do.
[10:28] <GameOver69> i guess so
[10:28] <MetaMorfoziS> oh
[10:28] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[10:28] <GameOver69> but regardless, when i dhclient it... it says received packed failed on eth0: network is down
[10:28] <iNiku> GameOver69: don't guess, that's not helpful at all
[10:28] <XVampireX> !ffmpeg
[10:28] <ubotu> XVampireX: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:28] <GameOver69> yes its wep
[10:29] <iNiku> GameOver69: okay. if you're only doing the iwconfig you said above, you're not setting your wep key at all
[10:29] <uniq> gameover69: what wireless device?
[10:29] <GameOver69> linksys wireless
[10:29] <iNiku> GameOver69: I suggest you do it all in /etc/network/interfaces, then you should be able to use ifup eth1 to bring it up
[10:29] <GameOver69> iNiku, i notesd when i just type in iwconfig, it says access point invaled
[10:29] <XVampireX> Can anyone please?!
[10:29] <jeroenvrp> I have sometign very off
[10:30] <jeroenvrp> odd
[10:30] <uniq> gameover69: then do as iniku says, with /etc/network/interfaces, that's smart :)
[10:30] <jeroenvrp> all of the sudden al my toolbar-icons and such are gone
[10:30] <iNiku> GameOver69: do you have any lines in /etc/network/interfaces that talk about eth1?
[10:30] <uniq> xvampirex: what's your ffmpeg problem?
[10:30] <jeroenvrp> also other local users are infected
[10:30] <jeroenvrp> relogin doesnt solve it
[10:30] <GameOver69> iNiku, no, i just added auto eth1 in there now
[10:30] <jeroenvrp> I did nothing, as it seems
[10:30] <jeroenvrp> anyone a clue?
[10:31] <GameOver69> anything else i need to add?
[10:31] <tristanmike> Hi, I'm having some trouble, I have set the top panel to "MacOSX Style" but when I add applets to the "MenuBar" I cannot move them around, am I missing something,I am still quite new to kde, thanx in advance. :)
[10:31] <XVampireX> uniq: stepmania needs a certain ffmpeg version
[10:31] <iNiku> GameOver69: yes, hang on
[10:31] <GameOver69> iNiku ok
[10:31] <XVampireX> the one in the repos doesn't seem to work, I need 0.4.9 which is sometime from 12/2005 they tell me
[10:32] <iNiku> GameOver69: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15096
[10:32] <iNiku> GameOver69: that's what you should put in there, and make sure there are no other lines that talk about eth1
[10:33] <iNiku> GameOver69: and put the key in hex format, the ascii string format is iffy
[10:33] <fatejudger> I can't seem to get fglrx working on Dapper
[10:33] <fatejudger> it just loads Mesa
[10:34] <GameOver69> iNiku, thats assuming that network manager works right?
[10:34] <iNiku> GameOver69: no, network manager does *not* use /etc/network/interfaces
[10:34] <uniq> tristanmike: right click on the item and select move does not work?
[10:34] <XVampireX> meh, nevermind
[10:34] <iNiku> GameOver69: in fact network manager will refuse to touch any interfaces mentioned in there
[10:34] <GameOver69> so with this i wont be using network manager at all
[10:35] <iNiku> GameOver69: no, you'll be using ifup/ifdown
[10:35] <uniq> xvampirex: well, you'll just have to look around, I don't know where to get the specific version of ffmpeg.
[10:35] <iNiku> GameOver69: although you probably won't need to as it should be configured automatically when you boot up or insert the card
[10:35] <iNiku> GameOver69: that's what "auto eth1" means
[10:35] <XVampireX> :-/
[10:35] <tristanmike> uniq: not for the menu bar, on the panels, there is a little bar usually to the left of the applet/app that when you select allows you to move, right clicking on any of them just gives me options for that particular applet/app
[10:35] <GameOver69> well it never worked for me b4, i had that config set up on my laptop now... and i always had to enter everything in the command lines
[10:35] <GameOver69> :(
[10:35] <GameOver69> thats why i got network manager
[10:35] <RobNyc> !ati
[10:35] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
[10:36] <iNiku> GameOver69: you probably didn't have it all set up right
[10:36] <tristanmike> uniq: it works on the "Panels" but not on the menu bar at the top
[10:36] <GameOver69> iNiku, from what i remmeber reading it was because of the card
[10:36] <fatejudger> I've already used that howto
[10:36] <iNiku> GameOver69: also, the "key restricted" you were doing might cause problems. you may want to eject the card and reinsert it to reset everything
[10:36] <fatejudger> ATI cards seem to be just a mess in Dapper right now
[10:37] <fatejudger> the weird thing is it worked before I formatted
[10:37] <GameOver69> iNiku, ell its screwed into my computer
[10:37] <iNiku> GameOver69: ah, it's a desktop?
[10:37] <GameOver69> also, i just ifup eth1... and it says ignoring unknown interface eth1-eth1
[10:37] <GameOver69> iNiku, yes
[10:37] <iNiku> GameOver69: eth1-eth1?
[10:37] <GameOver69> eth1=eth1
[10:38] <iNiku> GameOver69: can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:38] <GameOver69> no cause i dont have interenet on that computer
[10:38] <GameOver69> as of right now
[10:38] <GameOver69> :)
[10:38] <iNiku> oh. I assumed you had a wired connection :)
[10:39] <GameOver69> no :(
[10:39] <GameOver69> iNiku, has the following
[10:39] <tristanmike> uniq: actually, the problem seems to be with the Clock and Desktop Switcher, I can't move them
[10:39] <GameOver69> auto eth0
[10:39] <GameOver69> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[10:39] <iNiku> anyway, that error message means you haven't configured eth1 in the file
[10:39] <GameOver69> wireless-essid name
[10:39] <GameOver69> wireless-key number
[10:39] <GameOver69> and thats it
[10:39] <iNiku> GameOver69: I thought eth0 is your wired interface
[10:39] <GameOver69> well thats what it should be
[10:40] <GameOver69> its all f'd up
[10:40] <iNiku> GameOver69: you need to configure this stuff on the wireless interface, obviously
[10:40] <DarkSpirit> How can I getn x264 codec to work ?
[10:40] <iNiku> GameOver69: your wireless is eth1, so you need
[10:40] <iNiku> auto eth1
[10:40] <iNiku> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[10:40] <GameOver69> but as of right now it recognized eth0 as wireless
[10:40] <iNiku> wireless.....
[10:40] <iNiku> GameOver69: huh? you just told me a while ago eth1 is your wireless interface?
[10:40] <ubuntu> Hi guys! Just wondering, if I download VLC will it work in kubuntu?
[10:41] <GameOver69> well u were right
[10:41] <iNiku> GameOver69: type iwconfig
[10:41] <GameOver69> about what u said before
[10:41] <GameOver69> i made a mistake
[10:41] <iNiku> GameOver69: which interface shows IEEE 802.11g?
[10:41] <GameOver69> sorry for the confusuion
[10:41] <GameOver69> eth1
[10:41] <iNiku> okay
[10:42] <GameOver69> im changing wha ti had before to eth1
[10:42] <jbirdangel> hello
[10:43] <jbirdangel> according to adept thunderbird and firefox are installed, i dont see them in the menu and kappfinder doesnt find them either, what do i do
[10:43] <tristanmike> can someone please spare a moment to give me a hand ?
[10:43] <troy> jbirdangel: ALT-F2->"firefox"
[10:43] <jbirdangel> troy: could not run specified command
[10:44] <troy> jbirdangel: then it's not really installed (or it's broken)
[10:44] <troy> jbirdangel: uninstall via adept, and reinstall those packages
[10:44] <jbirdangel> troy: okay is it supposed to come with kubuntu and does that mean my whole install is messed up?
[10:44] <jbirdangel> troy: okay thanks
[10:44] <RobNyc> !ati
[10:44] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
[10:44] <troy> jbirdangel: firefox doesn't come with kubuntu - just konqueror
[10:45] <jbirdangel> troy: okay thanks
[10:45] <GameOver69> iNiku, ok
[10:45] <GameOver69> eth1 now shows my essid
[10:45] <GameOver69> but the access point is still invalid
[10:45] <GameOver69> this is through iwconfig
[10:45] <fatejudger> troy: it does
[10:45] <GameOver69> if i ifup.... it says that interface eth1 already configured
[10:46] <jbirdangel> troy: im used to firefox and thudnerbird and such i figure atleast for now to make the switch i should use what im used to
[10:46] <jbirdangel> is there a way to not have to type in the password for all the various progrmas?
[10:46] <fatejudger> troy: just change the browser identification for that URL
[10:46] <iNiku> GameOver69: do an ifdown eth1
[10:46] <fatejudger> jbirdangel: honestly, you ought to use the included programs, Konqueror and Kontact
[10:46] <iNiku> GameOver69: then ps -ef | grep dhclient
[10:46] <fatejudger> jbirdangel: it's just a web browser, not rocket science
[10:47] <iNiku> GameOver69: make sure you don't have any manually started dhclients running for eth1
[10:47] <jbirdangel> why do you say i should use them?
[10:47] <iNiku> GameOver69: if there are, kill them
[10:47] <iNiku> GameOver69: after that, ifup eth1 again
[10:47] <fatejudger> jbirdangel: they're native, they run faster, more reliable
[10:47] <GameOver69> how do i kill them
[10:47] <jbirdangel> does konquerer have adblack and filters for it and such
[10:47] <fatejudger> jbirdangel: yes
[10:47] <jbirdangel> adblock sorry
[10:48] <iNiku> GameOver69: did ps show any dhclient processes running?
[10:48] <GameOver69> yes
[10:48] <troy> fatejudger: yeah I get the full interface, but it doesn't work correctly...
[10:48] <iNiku> GameOver69: even after ifdown eth1?
[10:48] <fatejudger> troy: set your browser ident to firefox
[10:48] <GameOver69> it shows dhcp a number, and root
[10:48] <jbirdangel> where do i get konqueror extensions?
[10:48] <fatejudger> troy: the text runs over the dates a little bit, but it's no big deal
[10:48] <RobNyc> is tangerine and tango icons found in repository only for gnome ?
[10:48] <nixternal> anyone successfully install raid0 using the kubuntu text install cd?
[10:49] <troy> fatejudger: ahhh, I was setting it to safari, and it almost worked :)
[10:49] <fatejudger> troy: I ought to try it now that I have KDE 3.5.3, they've made some big changes to KHTML
[10:49] <GameOver69> at the eend i see dhclient eth1, and then on the second line under root, grep dhclient
[10:49] <fatejudger> troy: yeah, it takes them awhile to integrate Safari changes back into KHTML
[10:49] <iNiku> GameOver69: okay. ignore the second line, that's just your grep command
[10:49] <GameOver69> iNiku, ok
[10:49] <CaBlGuY> wooord peeps..
[10:49] <iNiku> GameOver69: but you need to kill the dhclient. the first number at the beginning of the line is the process id, do a "kill <process id"> to kill it
[10:50] <iNiku> "kill <process id>", rather
[10:50] <iNiku> GameOver69: then do the ps again to make sure it's gone
[10:50] <CaBlGuY> so, whats the major diff between kubuntu and reg. Ubuntu??
[10:50] <iNiku> CaBlGuY: ubuntu has the gnome desktop, kubuntu has KDE
[10:50] <troy> fatejudger: nice, seems to work (nearly) perfect this way... I'll try the safari one too in 3.5.3 and see what happens
[10:51] <magic> Hi guys! Will VLC work in Kubuntu?
[10:51] <fatejudger> troy: I just tried, same problem
[10:51] <CaBlGuY> iNiku:  and....   that's it???
[10:51] <GameOver69> iNiku, ok now i have 3 lines
[10:51] <iNiku> CaBlGuY: they look a little different and have different default application sets
[10:51] <GameOver69> dhcp and different process number
[10:51] <GameOver69> eth1.pid etc.... with an eth1
[10:51] <troy> fatejudger: can't click on messages to read, right?
[10:51] <GameOver69> and then root and process number
[10:51] <fatejudger> troy: it's strange that the Firefox browser ident works better than Safari, the Safari one should be the one that works best seeing as though it's engine is based off the KHTML codebase
[10:51] <cinzano> yes VLC does work fine in Ubuntu
[10:51] <fatejudger> troy: yeah, and filters
[10:51] <fatejudger> troy: it worked a little better in KDE 3.5.2 using that ident
[10:51] <iNiku> GameOver69: hmm. let's do this differently, type "ps -fu dhcp" instead
[10:52] <iNiku> GameOver69: does that show anything?
[10:52] <fatejudger> troy: everything works using the firefox one though
[10:52] <troy> fatejudger: which is why I was only trying safari - I just made an assumption...
[10:52] <fatejudger> troy: including chats
[10:52] <GameOver69> yes
[10:52] <GameOver69> one line
[10:52] <GameOver69> kill it?
[10:52] <CaBlGuY> iNiku:  so basically, Kubuntu just ahs more "eye candy" then the reg distro...
[10:52] <CaBlGuY> *has
[10:52] <magic> thnaks cinzano.
[10:52] <iNiku> GameOver69: yes, using the process id in the PID column
[10:52] <iNiku> CaBlGuY: well, I wouldn't quite put it that way, gnome has its share of eye candy too
[10:53] <cinzano> urw
[10:53] <GameOver69> iNiku, ok now there is nothing
[10:53] <mikedep333> !kopete
[10:53] <ubotu> Kopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org
[10:53] <duane> is the networkmanager for kde improved in the new dapper?
[10:53] <tyfon_> most "web developers" check for mozilla then defaults to IE, so identing as firefox usually works better ;)
[10:53] <iNiku> CaBlGuY: gnome and kde are just different desktop environments, some prefer one and some the other
[10:53] <troy> kopete 0.12.0 was released, I wonder if we'll get kubuntu packages for it...
[10:53] <iNiku> CaBlGuY: you can run gnome apps in kde and vice versa
[10:53] <TonySt> Binding a key...how do I do that?
[10:53] <mikedep333> hey guys, somebody was saying before that there is a way to get kopete .12 packages for it, but I cant find it
[10:53] <iNiku> GameOver69: okay, good, now try ifup eth1
[10:53] <mikedep333> *for dapper
[10:53] <fatejudger> troy: probably not through Kubuntu
 is the networkmanager for kde improved in the new dapper?
[10:53] <CaBlGuY> iNiku: ok, I was just tryin to get a good idea on what the major diffs were...  ;)
[10:53] <fatejudger> troy: but they usually package it themselves
[10:53] <duane> ie, does it work?
[10:53] <duane> lol
[10:54] <fatejudger> troy: the Kopete devels that is
[10:54] <iNiku> CaBlGuY: you can also install ubuntu and add KDE to it, or install kubuntu and add gnome to it
[10:54] <GameOver69> ok iNiku ok it always has NETWORK IS DOWN under send_packet:
[10:54] <mikedep333> http://kopete.kde.org/releases.php
[10:54] <iNiku> CaBlGuY: so you can try both desktop environments out for yourself and see which one you prefer
[10:54] <mikedep333> they're hosting beta1 packages
[10:54] <troy> be nice if we'd get 'official' kubuntu packages for kopete, much the same way koffice, amarok, kde+1 get packages
[10:55] <fatejudger> troy: someone will probably submit a Dapper package
[10:55] <iNiku> GameOver69: does it say anything else?
[10:55] <fatejudger> troy: it's only been 3 or 4 days since the release
[10:55] <magic> I have seen some screen shots of Ubuntu with the IE icon on the desktop, is it possible to use IE in Ubuntu?
[10:55] <troy> magic: under wine, yet
[10:55] <GameOver69> it just says that constantly for different intervals
[10:55] <troy> s/yet/yes
[10:55] <fatejudger> magic: crossover office
[10:55] <GameOver69> no DHCP OFFERS received
[10:56] <iNiku> GameOver69: hmm. are you sure your wep key is correct?
[10:56] <GameOver69> yes
[10:56] <iNiku> GameOver69: because that's exactly what will happen if you got the key wrong
[10:56] <iNiku> GameOver69: key or ssid
[10:56] <TonySt> I'd like to bind a key...This is done...how?
[10:56] <GameOver69> both are right
[10:56] <magic> Do I have to have a Microsoft windows disk in order to do that?
[10:56] <tristanmike> Can someone please offer a few minutes of their time for a frustrated Kubuntuite ?
[10:56] <mikedep333> magic: no, just a windows license
[10:56] <iNiku> GameOver69: iwconfig still shows access point: invalid?
[10:57] <apokryphos> !helpme
[10:57] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[10:57] <TonySt> tristanmike: don't ask to ask, just ask ;-)
[10:57] <mikedep333> magic: you get the IE installer from microsoft's website
[10:57] <tristanmike> it's more of a situation that may take a second or two to explain
[10:57] <apokryphos> ....
[10:57] <GameOver69> iNiku, yes
[10:57] <magic> ok
[10:58] <jbirdangel> what does konversation use tod ecide what color a persons naem is in the chat
[10:58] <iNiku> GameOver69: hmm. and you put the wep key in hex?
[10:58] <apokryphos> jbirdangel: dpeneding on the setting (on or off), it's random
[10:58] <GameOver69> i dont know how to do that
[10:58] <james_xxx> man, i am not sure i would want IE on my linux computers....
[10:58] <magic> So, are you still vulnerable to trojans using IE under ubuntu?
[10:58] <GameOver69> i just did everything how you told me to
[10:58] <jbirdangel> oh okay thank you
[10:59] <iNiku> GameOver69: I mean, is your wep key a long string of numbers and letters A-F or is it more like a password?
[10:59] <james_xxx> firefox or opera are great
[10:59] <apokryphos> or Konqueror ;-)
[10:59] <iNiku> GameOver69: the wep key that you entered on the wireless-key line, that is
[10:59] <Hawkwind> Is there a kubuntu server edition like there is for regular ubuntu ?
[10:59] <GameOver69> iNiku, its 10 numbers
[10:59] <apokryphos> Hawkwind: yes
[10:59] <evert_> hello all
[10:59] <james_xxx> or konqueror l, too:-D
[10:59] <HymnToLife> hawkwind > how would it matter ?
[10:59] <apokryphos> Hawkwind: it's.........exactly the same as the ubuntu one
[10:59] <evert_> how can i do this : You may solve it by mounting it on Linux (which has a kernel with Ext3
[10:59] <Hawkwind> apokryphos: Where can I find a download of it ?
[10:59] <HymnToLife> you don't have a GUI on a server...
[11:00] <evert_> Be sure that you cleanly dismount it, before you shutdown Linux.
[11:00] <apokryphos> Hawkwind: ubuntu.com, kubuntu.org
[11:00] <CaBlGuY> iNiku:  word brotha...  ;)
[11:00] <word> o.O
[11:00] <Hawkwind> apokryphos: I'm on kubuntu.org and see nothing labeled server edition
[11:00] <TonySt> How do I bind a key?
[11:01] <fatejudger> I love how KDE is using the same theme files that Mac OS X is using for Kopete and the upcoming release of Superkaramba built into KDE
[11:01] <iNiku> GameOver69: hmm. do you have your access point set up for open or shared key authentication?
[11:01] <apokryphos> Hawkwind: ubuntu.com it is then
[11:01] <GameOver69> it should be open
[11:01] <evert_> I'm trying to use ext2 driver , becuase i need to backup my linux home folder .. but I get an error : be sure you cleanly dismount it , before shutting down linux ... can somebody help me ?
[11:01] <HymnToLife> hawkwind > why not get the Ubuntu one ? It's 100% the same thing
[11:01] <iNiku> GameOver69: note that this is different from enabling or disabling wep encryption
[11:01] <GameOver69> how cna i tell
[11:01] <HymnToLife> sice servers don't have a GUI
[11:01] <tristanmike> When I right click my Desktop and select Configure Desktop, under the "Behaviour" section on the left there is an option to adjust the "Menu Bar at Top of Screen" and the option I want is "Current applications menu bar (Mac OS-style). I can select it, but when I go to add either the Clock/Desktop Preview/Bagaria Starter/or the Task bar, it won't let me move or organize them and my Menubar shoots to the far right hand side of the screen 
[11:01] <tristanmike> that all make sense ?
[11:02] <iNiku> GameOver69: by looking at the AP configuration. but open is the typical configuration
[11:02] <iNiku> CaBlGuY: ?
[11:02] <CaBlGuY> Im installin Konqurer on Gnome..... :p
[11:02] <TonySt> I'd like to bind a key. I
[11:02] <GameOver69> where do i do this.. in system setting?
[11:02] <ports-> hey
[11:02] <CaBlGuY> iNiku:  I was just agreein with ya on what u said erlier..
[11:02] <TonySt> I've tried everything - rope, leather, but it keeps on screaming at me.... is there an easy way to bind a key?
[11:02] <apokryphos> TonySt: which key and to what
[11:02] <Hawkwind> HymnToLife: I just thought they might make Kubuntu in a server edition with KDE installed just incase you needed it in an emergency or something
[11:02] <ports-> iNiku where can i download the deb package for ndiswrapper?
[11:02] <iNiku> GameOver69: on your wireless access point, it probably has a web gui or something
[11:03] <iNiku> ports-: apt-get install ndiswrapper, I would think
[11:03] <GameOver69> iNiku, i have to be honest... i have no clue what your talking about now
[11:03] <TonySt> apokryphos: control + ~, and to run usr/bin/3ddesk
[11:03] <HymnToLife> hawkwind > I think it's a bit irrelevent to run a server if youre not comfortble with the ommand line...
[11:03] <tristanmike> anyone have any ideas on how to solve my little quandary ?
[11:03] <HymnToLife> that will most likely mean trouble
[11:03] <apokryphos> TonySt: that's not binding a key, that's creating a shortcut to a given key
[11:03] <iNiku> GameOver69: I'm trying to find out whether your wireless network is configured for open or shared key authentication
[11:03] <Hawkwind> HymnToLife: I agree.  I was just making sure is all :)
[11:03] <apokryphos> TonySt: alt+f2 -> accessibility > input actions
[11:04] <ports-> iNiku therein lies the chicken and the egg.. ive got a computer atm that i cant hook up to ethernet (no cables handle) and i need to download ndiswrapper on it to get the wifi working..
[11:04] <ports-> iNiku so im trying to throw ndiswrapper on a jumpdrive with another computer and install it on the laptop
[11:04] <GameOver69> iNiku, i understand that... but i have no clue how to detrmine that
[11:04] <iNiku> ports-: ahh. http://packages.ubuntu.com/ then
[11:04] <apokryphos> TonySt: I mean...... alt+f2 -> kcontrol > accessibility > input actions
[11:04] <TonySt> aah...
[11:04] <fatejudger> !xincludes
[11:04] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[11:04] <iNiku> GameOver69: so how did you configure wep encryption for your network?
[11:05] <GameOver69> oh you mean from my router
[11:05] <GameOver69> yes its open
[11:05] <TonySt> apokryphos: thanks a million!
[11:05] <GameOver69> i thought u meant settings wise on this computer
[11:05] <apokryphos> no worries
[11:05] <tristanmike> how do I move the Trash on my panel ?
[11:05] <TonySt> apokryphos: and what's the difference between binding and shortcutting?
[11:05] <jbirdangel> how do i do extensions for konquerer?
[11:05] <fatejudger> !qtincludes
[11:05] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fatejudger
[11:05] <fatejudger> !kdeincludes
[11:05] <apokryphos> TonySt: binding would be making an actual key, i.e. ctrl, give some other output, i.e. the letter "v"
[11:05] <ubotu> hmm... kdeincludes is <quote> If a program asks for "kdeincludes" you should install the package kdebase-dev.
[11:05] <iNiku> ports-: dapper, right?
[11:06] <TonySt> apokryphos: Aah, I see.
[11:06] <jeroenvrp> how do I downgrade again to KDE 3.5.2!!!?
[11:06] <ports-> iNiku breezy
[11:06] <apokryphos> jeroenvrp: why would you want to?
[11:06] <jeroenvrp> apokryphos: because it sucks
[11:06] <apokryphos> fatejudger: investigate in /msg
[11:06] <apokryphos> jeroenvrp: why
[11:06] <fatejudger> apokryphos: don't worry, I'm done ;)
[11:06] <jeroenvrp> all my toolbar-icons are not showed anymore
[11:07] <iNiku> ports-: actually the ndiswrapper kernel module should be included in the kernel, or possibly linux-restricted-modules
[11:07] <apokryphos> jeroenvrp: toolbar icons? Do you mean icons in the system tray?
[11:07] <jeroenvrp> I see notjing
[11:07] <iNiku> ports-: but you'll probably want ndiswrapper-utils to go with that
[11:07] <MidMark> access manager is under which package?
[11:07] <jeroenvrp> apokryphos: no in the toolbar
[11:07] <apokryphos> which toolbar
[11:07] <jeroenvrp> ans also some other icomns
[11:07] <jeroenvrp> apokryphos: of the KDE-APPS
[11:07] <iNiku> ports-: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/misc/ndiswrapper-utils
[11:07] <apokryphos> jeroenvrp: screeny?
[11:08] <MidMark> the program that let you change the login screen is in which package?
[11:08] <jeroenvrp> apokryphos: oh wait
[11:08] <apokryphos> MidMark: kdm
[11:08] <jeroenvrp> when I set the toolbar-icons size on default the are gone
[11:08] <tristanmike> Can anyone tell me how to move my Trash on the bottom panel ?
[11:08] <jeroenvrp> when I'be set them to large or small, they are back
[11:08] <iNiku> GameOver69: okay, well... do ifdown eth1, then iwconfig eth1 key open
[11:08] <jeroenvrp> they were all gone, all of the sudden
[11:08] <jeroenvrp> all users are affected
[11:08] <iNiku> GameOver69: then ifup eth1 again
[11:09] <apokryphos> tristanmike: move it where? Off the panel, along the panel?
[11:09] <ports-> iNiku hrm im just gunna steal the ethernet from the router
[11:09] <apokryphos> jeroenvrp: screeny?
[11:09] <iNiku> ports-: ndiswrapper should be there already
[11:09] <iNiku> ports-: you just need the ndiswrapper-utils package
[11:09] <tristanmike> along the panel
[11:10] <iNiku> ports-: but yeah, that may just be easier :)
[11:10] <MidMark> apokryphos: really kdm? I mean the part that you can change fonts, background of the login
[11:10] <apokryphos> tristanmike: dragging doesn't work? How about with alt+drag?
[11:10] <apokryphos> MidMark: the login screen? The login screen is kdm, so...
[11:11] <tristanmike> apokryphos: nope, neither work
[11:11] <jeroenvrp> apokryphos: can't post screenies on pastebin
[11:11] <apokryphos> hm, might be ctrl+drag actually
[11:11] <tristanmike> nope
[11:11] <apokryphos> weird
[11:11] <apokryphos> jeroenvrp: why?
[11:11] <tristanmike> I can move everything else but not the trash, clock, taskbar
[11:12] <jeroenvrp> you tell me how
[11:12] <apokryphos> jeroenvrp: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:12] <MidMark> apokryphos: yes I know, but the program in system panel that let you change colors, background, fonts in the login screen... where is it? In which package?
[11:12] <apokryphos> MidMark: you're being pretty ambigious there...
[11:12] <tristanmike> I can move the KMenu, System, Konq, Kontact, Terminal, but I can't move the trash....
[11:13] <apokryphos> tristanmike: I've really  never had an issue like that; asked in #kde ?
[11:13] <tristanmike> thank you
[11:13] <MidMark> apokryphos: in control panel, the third icon, after disk and filesystem, called I think in english access manager o similar... in which package is situated? Is it clear?
[11:13] <Slappy> hi all
[11:14] <apokryphos> MidMark: you're asking which package something from the control panel comes from, you mean?
[11:14] <MidMark> yes!
[11:14] <iNiku> MidMark: I think you mean Login Manager?
[11:14] <apokryphos> MidMark: well, in systemsettings (which is the control panel)
[11:14] <MidMark> login manager exactly
[11:14] <apokryphos> *kde-systemsettings
[11:14] <apokryphos> MidMark: but you want the thing that alters settings of the login manager, not the actual login manager, right?
[11:15] <iNiku> system settings -> login manager lets you change the settings of the kdm login screen
[11:15] <MidMark> apokryphos: the package that cotains the file that alter login screen
[11:15] <jeroenvrp> apokryphos:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15098
[11:16] <apokryphos> MidMark: just a file to alter the login screen?
[11:16] <apokryphos> MidMark: kdmrc is the file that alters its configurations
[11:16] <ports> iNiku:  this is overly difficult
[11:16] <iNiku> ports: why, what is?
[11:16] <ports> iNiku:  apt-get and adept arent in a good mood today.
[11:16] <MidMark> apokryphos: it is difficult do explain
[11:17] <MidMark> apokryphos: do you know login manager from system settings?
[11:17] <MehAdult> ports: What problems are you having with them?
[11:17] <iNiku> MidMark: what do you want to do, exactly?
[11:17] <ports> iNiku: apt-get keeps throwing errors even though its running as sudo... hmm  adept got ndiswrapper-utils installed
[11:17] <MidMark> iNiku: know the exact package that contains the bin file from login manager
[11:17] <MidMark> clear?
[11:17] <MehAdult> What errors?
[11:17] <jbirdAngel> how do i get to the other partitions on my harddrive?
[11:18] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: Go to the /media folder
[11:18] <jeroenvrp> apokryphos: do you see my problem
[11:18] <iNiku> MidMark: well, if it's not what apokryphos said, then I don't know... but can I ask why do you need that file?
[11:18] <GameOver69> iNiku, i think i figured out why it doesnt work
[11:18] <iNiku> GameOver69: yeah?
[11:18] <iNiku> why?
[11:19] <GameOver69> well i need ndiswrapper to get it to work, because previously it could not detect the hardware on its own
[11:19] <MidMark> iNiku: I want to know the exact position in the packages... I have to write it in the wiki
[11:19] <GameOver69> now with 6.06..... it does detect it but it can not configure it
[11:19] <GameOver69> make any sense?
[11:19] <iNiku> MidMark: well, I don't know, it was installed by default
[11:19] <MidMark> iNiku: ok thanx
[11:19] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: okay thanks
[11:20] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: You're welcome.
[11:20] <Kadran> is there a plugin for konqueror to play media in the web pages instead of downloading them?
[11:20] <iNiku> GameOver69: well, since dapper contains a native driver for it, it should probably work...
[11:20] <GameOver69> so ndiswrapper is no longer needed?
[11:20] <iNiku> GameOver69: you were using ndiswrapper with it before?
[11:20] <iNiku> GameOver69: your old ndiswrapper installation may be interfering with the native driver
[11:20] <GameOver69> yes it was the only way for it to be detected.... with the windows driver
[11:21] <iNiku> GameOver69: what does ndiswrapper -l say?
[11:21] <GameOver69> i have a question.... since it is detected.... how can i get it wroking
[11:21] <GameOver69> becasue i think im gonna do a clean install
[11:21] <iNiku> GameOver69: what does ndiswrapper -l say?
[11:21] <GameOver69> im off the computer :(
[11:22] <GameOver69> my  bro is on the windows partition
[11:22] <iNiku> GameOver69: well, then it's going to be difficult to help you
[11:22] <GameOver69> well lets just say i do a clean install
[11:22] <GameOver69> no ndiswrapper
[11:22] <GameOver69> which is what i plan on doing
[11:22] <iNiku> GameOver69: but there may be a way to fix it
[11:22] <GameOver69> how od i get it up and running...
[11:23] <iNiku> GameOver69: if you were using ndiswrapper before, you probably need to blacklist the ndiswrapper module because it's interfering with the native driver now
[11:23] <GameOver69> ok how do i blacklist it
[11:23] <GameOver69> ill write it downa nd do it later
[11:23] <iNiku> GameOver69: you can do that by adding the line "blacklist ndiswrapper" into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:24] <iNiku> GameOver69: I'm not sure that will work, we could find out if you had access to the machine
[11:25] <MehAdult> What plugin can I use for monitoring my network usage in KDE?
[11:25] <iNiku> GameOver69: but I'm pretty sure it will do it. you should have mentioned you were using ndiswrapper before
[11:25] <_ports> hrmm it works
[11:25] <GameOver69> ok ill give it a try, anything else i need to do
[11:26] <GameOver69> i thought it was known.. because i hear its the only way linksys cards work
[11:26] <r0xz> MehAdult: iftop?
[11:26] <jaims> hello
[11:26] <GameOver69> or used to work at least
[11:26] <iNiku> GameOver69: reboot once you've done that (or unload and reload some modules manually, but rebooting is probably easier)
[11:27] <jaims> has someone found the way to update firefox?
[11:27] <iNiku> GameOver69: well, the thing is, there are lots of totally different cards sold under the linksys name
[11:27] <_ports> grr
[11:27] <_ports> flaky wireless
[11:27] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: that seems to only list cdrom folders?
[11:27] <iNiku> GameOver69: all of them requiring different drivers, of course
[11:27] <jaims> the 'check for updates' link is disabled, even when run as root ?
[11:27] <_ports> iNiku:  when i ran sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile  - it still gave errors.... but wireless seems to work
[11:27] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: It depends on how your partitions are laid out.
[11:27] <GameOver69> but now since kubuntu recognizes the hardware... theere is no need for any driver correct?
[11:28] <iNiku> GameOver69: there still might be, depending on the card type
[11:28] <_ports> but its being really flakey
[11:28] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: first partition is windows second is fat32 third is kubntu?
[11:28] <GameOver69> ok
[11:28] <MehAdult> On my system it's /media/hd0 for my NTFS partition for Winblows.
[11:28] <iNiku> GameOver69: if it's a broadcom chipset based one, you need to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FDriver%2FBroadcom43xx
[11:29] <jbirdAngel> how would i find it on mine?
[11:29] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: ls /media
[11:29] <jbirdAngel> its not in there
[11:29] <MehAdult> If the output is huge paste it to www.pastebin.com
[11:29] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: I wanna see
[11:29] <iNiku> GameOver69: if it's something else, then I don't know. in fact it could be using ndiswrapper even now, for all we know
[11:29] <jbirdAngel> oh sorry
[11:29] <jbirdAngel> whats ls mena then?
[11:29] <jbirdAngel> i type that in to konsole?
[11:29] <nixternal> anyone here running raid0?
[11:30] <GameOver69> hmm ok
[11:30] <MidMark> iNiku: this was the problem for kdm -> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDapperWhatStillNeedsAConsole
[11:30] <jbirdAngel> its just cdrom and cdrom0
[11:30] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: Or any other terminal program.
[11:30] <iNiku> GameOver69: can't really help you further if you don't have access to the machine at the moment
[11:30] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: Sounds like it's not mounted
[11:30] <GameOver69> ok well thahnks for everything you have done so far
[11:30] <GameOver69> i appreciate it
[11:30] <jbirdAngel> it doesnt automaticallyd o that?
[11:30] <iNiku> GameOver69: you're welcome
[11:30] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: ls /dev | grep hd in a terminal
[11:31] <MehAdult> Paste the output to www.pastebin.com please
[11:31] <iNiku> GameOver69: read that broadcom wiki page, it will help you if your card is indeed a broadcom
[11:31] <iNiku> GameOver69: and it tells you how to find that out
[11:31] <jbirdAngel> hda, hda1,2,3,4,5,hdc
[11:31] <MehAdult> That works.
[11:31] <jbirdAngel> ok
[11:31] <GameOver69> yes
[11:31] <GameOver69> it is
[11:31] <GameOver69> can you give me the link
[11:31] <MehAdult> Hmm. The question is which partition is which?
[11:31] <jbirdAngel> 4 and 5 shoudl be within 3, i dont know what c is
[11:31] <jbirdAngel> guessing that hda is the whole thing?
[11:31] <jbirdAngel> 1 should be windows, 2 shoudl be fat 32
[11:32] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: Do you have another IDE device?
[11:32] <iNiku> GameOver69: I just did :)
[11:32] <MehAdult> CD drive?
[11:32] <iNiku> but here it is again: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FDriver%2FBroadcom43xx
[11:32] <jbirdAngel> oh i have a cd/dvd rw thing, this is a laptop
[11:32] <GameOver69> ok thanks man
[11:32] <GameOver69>  much appreciated it
[11:32] <jbirdAngel> i dont knwo if it would have anything else
[11:32] <MehAdult> Try sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows and see what happends
[11:32] <MehAdult> *happens
[11:33] <mikedep333> hey guys, what's the official way to setup a firewall on dapper?
[11:33] <jbirdAngel> cant find /dev/hda1/media/windows in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:33] <MehAdult> Ok.
[11:33] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: Try /dev/hda2 and see what happens
[11:33] <jbirdAngel> same
[11:33] <iNiku> MidMark: okay
[11:33] <jbirdAngel> oh wait
[11:33] <jbirdAngel> i did it wrong
[11:33] <MehAdult> :|
[11:34] <MehAdult> Oh sure enough lol
[11:34] <jaims> mikedep333 have you tried firestarter?
[11:34] <jbirdAngel> whatiyou mean just /dev/hda2 without he mdia and windows stuff or?
[11:34] <MehAdult> Nevermind.
[11:34] <jbirdAngel> eitherway it doesnt work
[11:34] <MehAdult> Try the origional command without the space
[11:35] <jbirdAngel> ok
[11:35] <jbirdAngel> command not found
[11:35] <jbirdAngel> mount/dev/hda1/media/windows
[11:35] <MehAdult> :|
[11:35] <MehAdult> No, you're forgetting spaces.
[11:35] <jbirdAngel> you just said without teh space
[11:35] <mikedep333> jaims: I have a year ago or so, but not on ubuntu
[11:35] <MehAdult> mount(SPACE)/dev/hda1(SPACE)/media/windows
[11:35] <jbirdAngel> sudomount?
[11:35] <jbirdAngel> oh
[11:35] <jbirdAngel> sorry
[11:35] <jbirdAngel> i cant tell i guess
[11:36] <mikedep333> I'm surprised there's nothing under the kde system settings for a firewall
[11:36] <MehAdult> I forget if you need to make the folder /media/windows
[11:36] <jbirdAngel> okay ya i do it says it doesnt exist
[11:36] <MidMark> iNiku: have you a surround system?
[11:36] <jbirdAngel> can i put it in just /windows?
[11:36] <MehAdult> Do you have a /windows folder?
[11:37] <jbirdAngel> not if i didnt come with one but i thought ic ould make one the same way i woudl the /media/windows one
[11:37] <MehAdult> True but the /media folder is like the c:\ d:\ a:\ stuff on WInblows
[11:37] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: okay i just came from suse which did it /windows/ but if its better for soem reason to do it under media i can
[11:38] <MehAdult> Oh. Well whatever.
[11:38] <jaims> mikedep333: this is the one I use, and seems enough for me
[11:38] <MehAdult> It's your system.
[11:38] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: okay well i tried to make the folder adn it says access denied (using konqueror)
[11:39] <MehAdult> Oh, do a sudo mkdir /media/windows on the terminal
[11:39] <MehAdult> You  need root permissions.
[11:39] <jbirdAngel> okay thanks
[11:39] <MehAdult> Welcome.
[11:39] <mikedep333> jaims: I thought it was just for NAT routing?
[11:39] <jaims> nope!
[11:40] <jaims> it displays connections, and it warns when something unallowed tries to happen (normally inbound connections)
[11:40] <jaims> then you can create rules
[11:40] <jaims> way easier than using iptables from the console
[11:40] <mikedep333> I see
[11:41] <jaims> less powerful though
[11:41] <mikedep333> yeah
[11:41] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: okay im confused i made the windows file then i did sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows and for number 2 and now i see the contents of i think hda2 in windows, i thought it would make two seperate foulders, did the hda2 replace the contents of hda1 or?
[11:41] <jaims> there are others, mikedep: shorewall, fwbuilder...
[11:41] <jaims> but i haven't tried them
[11:41] <mikedep333> there is also guarddog for kde
[11:41] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: Ok let me explain things instead of telling you what to do.
[11:41] <mikedep333> i think it is like firestarter but with mroe options
[11:41] <jaims> aha
[11:41] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: ok
[11:41] <mikedep333> shorewall is from the command line
[11:41] <jaims> never heard bfore
[11:41] <mikedep333> but webmin can configure it
[11:42] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: You need to learn this. See the /dev folder lists your partitions and crap and other devices. /dev/hda1-5 means you have 5 partitions or something.
[11:42] <MehAdult> Yeah 5 partitions
[11:42] <MehAdult> Not unusual.
[11:42] <jaims> I've heard of it, never tried; more powerful than firestarter
[11:42] <MehAdult> To use them you need to mount them. The mount command is how you do this. Usually the media folder is used on Ubuntu/Debian.
[11:42] <jaims> firestarter it's ok for me; not to difficult to learn to use, and it does his job
[11:42] <mikedep333> I like firestarter mostly because it shows you the current connections
[11:42] <jaims> yes
[11:43] <jbirdAngel> ok
[11:43] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: Mounting is how you see the files. But you need to be sure you umount (unmount) the partition before you quit. Usually shutting down does this.
[11:43] <MehAdult> This is more applicable with usb drives and CDs.
[11:44] <MehAdult> Usually KDE automounts but I prefer manual as you maintain more control over the computer.
[11:44] <MehAdult> Linux treats devices like files FYI. That's why it's in /dev.
[11:45] <jbirdAngel> whats fyi mean
[11:45] <jbirdAngel> n/m
[11:45] <MehAdult> For your information.
[11:45] <jbirdAngel> ya thanks :)
[11:45] <MehAdult> You're welcome.
[11:45] <MehAdult> Now you can put 2+2 together :)
[11:45] <MidMark> some has a surround system and works with amarok?
[11:45] <jaims> bye
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> How do I get Konq to mount my other drive and fat32 partitions
[11:46] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: so when i mounted hda2 after doing hda1, that just means that it changed the windows folder from showing the contents of hda1 to showing the contents of hda2?
[11:46] <MehAdult> Yeah
[11:46] <jbirdAngel> okay thanks and so will kde automatically unmount these?
[11:46] <MehAdult> umount /dev/hda2 and mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[11:46] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: Dunno. That's why I don't like KDE's automounting.
[11:46] <heinkel_111> Jack_Sparrow:
[11:46] <MehAdult> It WILL unmount on shutdown.
[11:46] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[11:47] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: okay thank you
[11:47] <devin_> I have a quick question! I have a Radeon Mobility 9000 video card in my thinkpad laptop and was wondering if the  versions of fglrx will work for it>  or would i need to install some generic ones from kernel to get it to work properly?
[11:47] <MehAdult> You're welcome.
[11:47] <heinkel_111> Jack_Sparrow: you will have to tamper with the etc/fstab file
[11:47] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[11:47] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: so when i unmount i dont have to do the media/windows part
[11:47] <jbirdAngel> ?
[11:47] <Jack_Sparrow> will it be obvious?
[11:47] <MehAdult> No.
[11:47] <MehAdult> Or you can umount /mnt/windows even
[11:48] <MehAdult> You'll probably need sudo if you get permission denied on mount/umount.
[11:48] <heinkel_111> Jack_Sparrow: are you using kubuntu?
[11:48] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: okay well now it says i dont have permissions for opening media/windows in konqueror
[11:49] <MehAdult> Ok. Do sudo chmod 755 /media/windows
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry yes using KU
[11:49] <MehAdult> Or even 777
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> yes found fs tab
[11:50] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: okay thanks
[11:50] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: chmod is another command. It changes permissions of files and folders. rwxrwxrwx would be 777
[11:50] <Jack_Sparrow> 0 and 1 after each partition..
[11:50] <jbirdAngel> whats rwxrwxrwx mean
[11:50] <MehAdult> (viewable from ls -l command)
[11:50] <jbirdAngel> i dont know what the letters mean
[11:51] <MehAdult> read write execute for user, read write execute for user group, read write execute for others not in that group
[11:52] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: oh okay thanks... okay so in my understanding i changed the permissions for windows then i could open it again, now i mounted hda1 and it says i dont have perssion, i did the chmod command again and it said changing permissions of /media/windows/: read only file system, and then again it said i didnt have permissions
[11:52] <MehAdult> read = 4, write = 2, execute = 1. Add them together to modify the permissions in chmod. So if you want write & reading permissions for everyone, type chmod 666 (file)
[11:53] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: NTFS will be write only because MIcrocrap doesn't release specifications for NTFS.
[11:53] <MehAdult> You might need sudo chmod instead of just chmod
[11:53] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: okay so i cant see whats on there is what htat means?
[11:53] <MehAdult> and it said changing permissions of /media/windows/: read only file system,
[11:53] <jbirdAngel> okay i  did sudo it
[11:53] <jbirdAngel> ya
[11:53] <MehAdult> That's a kernel restriction.
[11:53] <jbirdAngel> you said it would be write only i thought
[11:53] <jbirdAngel> ok
[11:53] <Zaire> can someone tell me what the command is to force a media drive to unmount I forgot lol
[11:54] <MehAdult> Zaire: sudo umount /dev/hd*
[11:54] <Zaire> thats a norm unmount I want to force one my my cdrom
[11:54] <Zaire> damn can't type today
[11:54] <linuxmonkey> http://fs-driver.org/ <--something for you to be able to write to ext from winblows if you needed to share some space instead of using FAT32
[11:54] <heinkel_111> Jack_Sparrow: this is a thread I wrote when I had to lear all that /etc/fstab editing: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=4010.msg15341#msg15341
[11:55] <jbirdAngel> linuxmonkey: okay thank you
[11:55] <MehAdult> linuxmonkey: How safe is it?
[11:55] <heinkel_111> had to _learn_
[11:55] <MehAdult> I've heard you can use Captive FS too, but it's not perfect.
[11:55] <MehAdult> Oh that's the other way around.
[11:55] <linuxmonkey> MehAdult: safer than running write access to a NTFS from linux.
[11:56] <linuxmonkey> lol
[11:56] <MehAdult> Yeah. :|
[11:56] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: you said it could be write only and the terimal says read only, i tried chmod 444 and it gave me the same read only thing, but 444 is for read only right? so why didnt it work? or i cant see ntfs from linux?
[11:56] <linuxmonkey> ya can use ext3 too MehAdult
[11:57] <deviant> Does anyone know what Suse uses for their grub look, I want to try to get it like that on Kubuntu.
[11:57] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: It might be not mounted?
[11:57] <jbirdAngel> ya i guess not thanks
[11:57] <MehAdult> deviant: Hello my fellow Kansan.
[11:58] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: You're welcome.
[11:58] <jbirdAngel> well according to fstab it wasnt
[11:58] <jbirdAngel> but according to mtab it is
[11:58] <deviant> Hey hey, Meh
[11:59] <MehAdult> deviant: What part of Kansas?
[11:59] <MehAdult> <-Hutch
[11:59] <jbirdAngel> MehAdm?ult: i do chmod 444 and it says changing permissions ... read only file syste
[12:00] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: You might want execute permissions
[12:00] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: It's gonna say read only because you're not using Captive FS which probably isn't a good idea anyway.
[12:01] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: okay well ive tried 444 777 and 555 and i cant view the windows folder either way
[12:01] <MehAdult> Hmm.
[12:01] <MehAdult> Konqueror is screwy.
[12:01] <bison_> Hi everyone
[12:01] <tristanmike> Is there a setting somewhere that locks down any applet that I put on the panel ?
[12:01] <bison_> any chance there's a Kubuntu Sound god here?
[12:02] <henrique> how can i see my kde version
[12:02] <MehAdult> What's the command to know what package a file is in?
[12:02] <jbirdAngel> how do i delete a folder
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> The fstab editing reference was helpful but what if my fstab file does not show my second drive my ntfs partitions etc
[12:02] <MehAdult> henrique: On Konqueror or a KDE app push Help About
[12:02] <deviant> Southeast Kansas.. [-Coffeyville-] 
[12:03] <MehAdult> Cool.
[12:03] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: rm -rf
[12:03] <henrique> ok mine is 3.4.3, how update it
[12:04] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: what did that do? i jus ttyped in rm -rf enter into terminal