[08:26] <megabyte405> Hi everybody - got a quick question if anyone's around.  I'm trying to set up a pseudo-derived distribution of Ubuntu, and I would like to know how to set a GDM, window/gnome theme, and background as the "default" from within a package
[08:26] <troy_s> mega
[08:27] <troy_s> who sent a good set of posting on the theme to the mailing list
[08:27] <troy_s> so check the archives
[08:27] <troy_s> the splash is in /usr/share/pixmaps/splash iirc
[08:27] <troy_s> gdm is handled via the switcher -- i think it is as simple as setting up a symbollic link
[08:28] <megabyte405> I already have a custom deb package that installs the artwork, I'm just trying to make it default now :)
[08:30] <troy_s> with gpg keys?
[08:31] <megabyte405> yeah
[08:33] <troy_s> wouldn't it be better to simply adjust the sources so that you point to all the packages you want?
[08:33] <troy_s> i am only thinking that security wise it is nice if there is already a well monitored repository.
[08:33] <megabyte405> that's waht I'm doing
[08:33] <megabyte405> I'm adding my repository so that I can host my own custom artwork package and a metapackage
[08:33] <megabyte405> I'm modifying the ubuntu desktop seed file and pushing my own desktop meta-package
[08:34] <megabyte405> that way the default package install comes the way I want, if I have additional modifications (or hand-picked backports) I can add them to my repository and upgrade my meta-package to push upgrades
[08:35] <troy_s> are you part of the artwork team yet mega?
[08:35] <troy_s> your ability would be appreciated on the team...
[08:35] <megabyte405> yes, I am
[08:36] <troy_s> good.
[08:36] <megabyte405> Ryan Pavlik aka cezpi4y02
[08:36] <troy_s> keep your ear to the ground -- i am going to try and push a lot of effort post paris.
[08:36] <megabyte405> awesome, I'm on the list/have been for a while
[08:36] <troy_s> i am currently waiting for paris to get a feel for exactly what mark has planned
[08:36] <troy_s> yep, the structure stinks right now.
[08:36] <megabyte405> I'm a bit over-booked at the moment, but I did put together a nice theme (a blended theme with tango colors) for this mini-distro
[08:37] <troy_s> i think we are all overbooked
[08:37] <megabyte405> yeah, there is a little too much of a "fly by the seat of the pants" feeling I think for such a structured set of requirements
[08:37] <troy_s> which is why we really all need to come together in the community spirit and do little bits at a time
[08:37] <megabyte405> yep, that happens
[08:37] <troy_s> yep.  which is exactly what i am going to get laid out...
[08:37] <troy_s> i have already formalized a design doc at the wiki...
[08:37] <megabyte405> great
[08:37] <troy_s> it is merely a starting point... but it will give us some clear deadlines and
[08:37] <troy_s> such...
[08:37] <troy_s> it is in the documents section
[08:38] <megabyte405> alright
[08:38] <troy_s> it will evolve after paris...
[08:38] <troy_s> but hopefully we can get some concrete
[08:38] <troy_s> foundation in place
[08:38] <troy_s> so that everyone can do little bits... and see the cohesive 'whole'.
[08:38] <megabyte405> do you know offhand which ubuntu package is responsible for setting the defaults that I'm looking for?  I looked all over in ubuntu-artwork but I'm not seeing it
[08:38] <megabyte405> yeah
[08:38] <troy_s> you mean setting artwork defaults?
[08:39] <troy_s> no i have begged the guys to look on the damn list, but everyone doesn't seem to be interested in that sort of thing.
[08:39] <megabyte405> yep
[08:39] <troy_s> if you find out what package, PLEASE let me know personally via email
[08:39] <troy_s> or post it to the list...
[08:39] <troy_s> anything... i would like to build a database of all the different packages and what components of art are in which ...
[08:39] <troy_s> follow me?
[08:39] <megabyte405> yep, OK, will do.  I know where the setting is once the user is created and they manually change it (by observing the change in Pessulus ("User Profile Manager")
[08:40] <troy_s> in fact, send me mail with what you have done thus far... i'll extract
[08:40] <troy_s> troy.sobotka@gmail.com
[08:40] <megabyte405> and it looks like stuff in /etc/skel according to a reply to my reply on the list
[08:40] <megabyte405> what do you mean?
[08:40] <troy_s> well what packages you have tweaked
[08:40] <troy_s> etc.
[08:41] <megabyte405> OK
[08:41] <troy_s> any info is appreciated.
[08:43] <troy_s> thanks again mega.
[08:46] <megabyte405> np
[08:47] <megabyte405> there, sent you an email with what I know so far
[08:51] <troy_s> thanks mega.  keep me posted.
[08:51] <troy_s> i'll wiki it rough perhaps tonite.
[08:51] <troy_s> your feedback and participation would be helpful as you have tinkered with it now far more than i have.
[08:51] <megabyte405> great, glad I can help
[08:52] <megabyte405> The hardest part so far was making a makefile to install artwork so that I could make a debian package
[08:52] <megabyte405> I had never made a makefile before
[08:53] <troy_s> yes well all that information is dead helpful!
[08:53] <troy_s> did you search through the arhcives for who's post?
[08:53] <troy_s> he did some theme stuff and had a link to a few sites.
[08:55] <megabyte405> yes, I saw those
[08:56] <troy_s> good.
[09:06] <megabyte405> troy_s: sent you a tar.gz of the framework from my artwork package, if you want it
[09:06] <megabyte405> help and info is in the Makefile
[09:07] <megabyte405> It's what I use in my package to build a "ra-artwork" package
[09:08] <megabyte405> Oh, yes, forgot to add.  When using this, first make a tar.gz of the particular artwork thatyou want to install in that directory structure without the debian directory. (and give it a version number, like ra-artwork-0.1.tar.gz)., as if it were a tarball downloaded from an upstream web site.
[09:09] <megabyte405> then any time you want to change/update the artwork, make a new tarball with a new version, and follow the "New upstream version, basic" instructions in the New Maintainer Guide (linked in the makefile)
[09:10] <megabyte405> that took me about a day or so to figure out, so it might be a good resource to have available if artists want to package their work as a deb file
[09:12] <troy_s> no kidding!
[09:12] <troy_s> exactly my point.
[09:12] <megabyte405> feel free to redistribute that or put it on the wiki - you might want to add the info I just told you to the top of the makefile with the rest of the help
[09:13] <megabyte405> May as well give back what I have learned to the community :)
[09:14] <troy_s> well yah... that's part of it.  the other part is the work it takes to organize it.
[09:14] <troy_s> everyone just 'dumps' their thoughts to the mailing list without trying to do a little legwork on finding out where it should go etc...
[09:14] <troy_s> and then it just gets lost in the ether.
[09:18] <megabyte405> yeah, taht too
[09:26] <megabyte405> Hmm, there appears to be no decent resource that says how to sign packages for a personal repository
[09:32] <troy_s> yep
[09:32] <troy_s> keep sending me your progress mega.
[09:32] <troy_s> as you get enough little bits collected
[09:36] <megabyte405> definitely, can do