| mdke | everything works fine | 12:05 |
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| theCore | bizzare... | 12:06 |
| mdke | if you don't want to build pdfs, don't call the pdf targets | 12:06 |
| theCore | it fails before building the pdfs | 12:06 |
| theCore | and I want to build the pdfs | 12:06 |
| mdke | well, you'll need to install fop then. | 12:07 |
| mdke | see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/PDF | 12:07 |
| theCore | ok, 2nd try on a clean checkout | 12:07 |
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| theCore | just to be sure, is `svn co https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/branches/dapper dapper-docs' is the correct command for getting the dapper branch? | 12:10 |
| mdke | yeah | 12:10 |
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| theCore | oh, way better | 12:12 |
| theCore | at least, I don't get a ton of: No localization exists for "c" or "". Using default "en". | 12:13 |
| mgalvin | who actually maintains the mailing lists, jdub, heno? | 12:13 |
| robitaille | jdub is usually the one in change of the ubuntu lists | 12:14 |
| mdke | theCore: that is not an error. | 12:14 |
| theCore | mdke: I know, but it's just annoying | 12:15 |
| mdke | you're a strange guy | 12:15 |
| mgalvin | robitaille: thanks | 12:15 |
| mgalvin | robitaille: hey if you are interested at all, i started to add some of the articles you find to the ubuntu weekly newsletter, feel free to add them there if you like | 12:16 |
| theCore | mdke: maybe a NO_LOC_ERROR flag, would be useful | 12:18 |
| mdke | maybe just ignore it? | 12:19 |
| robitaille | mgalvin: ok | 12:19 |
| theCore | mdke: that's also an option... | 12:19 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I'm starting to like epiphany | 12:37 |
| === mdke pats LaserJock | ||
| LaserJock | ohhhhhhh | 12:41 |
| LaserJock | gdebi rocks hard core | 12:41 |
| crimsun | ain't it? | 12:44 |
| crimsun | [nice] | 12:45 |
| mdke | yeah | 12:45 |
| crimsun | granted, I'm used to ``dpkg -i foo.deb && apt-get -f install'' | 12:45 |
| LaserJock | yeah, me too | 12:45 |
| mdke | planet is getting a 404 from my blog apparently. Can you guys all see http://mdke.org/ | 12:45 |
| LaserJock | but this shows you the list of files | 12:45 |
| LaserJock | and shows you control info so you can make sure you did it right ;-) | 12:45 |
| LaserJock | mdke: yep | 12:46 |
| crimsun | reachable her | 12:46 |
| crimsun | e | 12:46 |
| mdke | weird, stupid planet must have cracky dns servers | 12:46 |
| LaserJock | ackkk, my starter page is file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales/index-en_GB.html | 12:48 |
| mdke | nice! | 12:48 |
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| LaserJock | anybody use IE in wine here? | 12:51 |
| LaserJock | there is 1 site my wife likes to visit and it only works on Windows with flash | 12:53 |
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| LaserJock | and I can | 12:54 |
| LaserJock | can't seem to get a driver for the printer in Windows | 12:54 |
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| LaserJock | Corey! | 01:58 |
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| theCore | crimsun: why the apt-get -f install ? | 02:01 |
| Burgundavia | hey Laser | 02:01 |
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| theCore | mdke: *sigh*, I know now why the docs didn't built properly | 02:03 |
| theCore | warning: failed to load external entity "/home/matt/tmp/docbook-xsl-snapshot/fo/docbook.xsl" | 02:03 |
| theCore | compilation error: file ../libs/pdf/ubuntu-pdf.xsl line 11 element import | 02:03 |
| theCore | xsl:import : unable to load /home/matt/tmp/docbook-xsl-snapshot/fo/docbook.xsl | 02:03 |
| theCore | make[1] : *** [server-pdf-C] Error 5 | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | theCore: apt-get -f install grabs the deps since dpkg doesn't do it | 02:04 |
| theCore | mdke: because smart guy called `matt' hardcoded the location of the stylesheet... ;) | 02:05 |
| theCore | LaserJock: ah, ok thanks for the info | 02:05 |
| mdke | theCore: that's not very nice | 02:09 |
| mdke | that was done for a reason, as you could probably have guessed | 02:09 |
| theCore | mdke: (it's a joke) | 02:10 |
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| mdke | ok | 02:11 |
| theCore | btw, where is the stylesheet? | 02:11 |
| mdke | google will tell you | 02:12 |
| theCore | /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/fo/docbook.xsl ? | 02:12 |
| mdke | if it was there, you think I would have hardcoded another one? | 02:13 |
| mdke | you have to download them from the internet | 02:13 |
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| mdke | then change the address in ubuntu-pdf.xsl to match where you put them | 02:14 |
| theCore | mdke: wouldn't be better to add it into the repository? | 02:15 |
| mdke | theCore: all the stylesheets? | 02:17 |
| mdke | it's quite big | 02:17 |
| mdke | and no one really builds the pdfs apart from me, because they are on the website | 02:17 |
| theCore | mdke: how big actually? | 02:18 |
| mdke | i dunno, lemme look | 02:18 |
| mdke | 16 megabytes | 02:18 |
| LaserJock | uggh | 02:18 |
| theCore | gezz, 16mb for a sheetstyle? | 02:19 |
| mdke | theCore: lots of stylesheets | 02:19 |
| theCore | mdke: ah, well maybe it worth it then | 02:20 |
| mgalvin | hey guys, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue1 is about all set in case anyone has time to give it a quick review | 02:25 |
| mgalvin | trappist: ^^^ | 02:25 |
| mdke | very nice | 02:26 |
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| theCore | LaserJock: are you working on the PG? | 02:48 |
| LaserJock | not right at this moment | 02:48 |
| theCore | ok | 02:50 |
| LaserJock | are you? | 02:50 |
| theCore | I'm trying | 02:52 |
| LaserJock | what section? | 02:52 |
| theCore | I thought the Sync & Merge needed some clarifications, but it seem that it's way better than I thought | 02:55 |
| LaserJock | hehe | 02:55 |
| theCore | so, I'm now wandering in the guide, trying to find something | 02:55 |
| theCore | maybe I could clean the XML ... | 02:57 |
| LaserJock | is it that bad? ;-) | 03:00 |
| theCore | well, the PG the cleanest of all guides | 03:04 |
| LaserJock | well, it has the fewest people working on it | 03:05 |
| theCore | LaserJock: do you use a 4 space-long tab? | 03:08 |
| LaserJock | I don't think I did "replace tab with spaces" but usually I use 2-4 space tabs | 03:09 |
| LaserJock | probably 4 though | 03:09 |
| theCore | the xml is indented with tab | 03:10 |
| theCore | which is fine | 03:10 |
| theCore | I just have to change the tab-width to whatever I want if I'm not happy | 03:13 |
| theCore | LaserJock: maybe a better coverage of the packagers utilities would be good | 03:16 |
| LaserJock | sure | 03:17 |
| Burgundavia | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelcomeWindow | 03:20 |
| Burgundavia | uhh | 03:20 |
| crimsun | theCore: referring vs. gdebi? | 03:23 |
| crimsun | theCore: if so, it's to install resolved dependencies. | 03:24 |
| theCore | crimsun: could be an idea... | 03:24 |
| crimsun | theCore: ? | 03:25 |
| theCore | crimsun: oh, | 03:25 |
| crimsun | theCore: that's the way it [has been] was done in Debian for the past eight years or so :) | 03:25 |
| crimsun | gdebi does it nicely and with style :) | 03:25 |
| theCore | crimsun: I think dpkg, doesn't allow to install package with unmet dependencies | 03:26 |
| crimsun | theCore: correct, because it doesn't do any resolution, hence apt-get -f install :) | 03:27 |
| theCore | crimsun: ah | 03:27 |
| theCore | crimsun: yeah, I remember know, I had to do it with opera | 03:27 |
| crimsun | yep, that's precisely how I tested gdebi | 03:28 |
| crimsun | "will gdebi do this better?" | 03:28 |
| theCore | that was one of my first amazement on Linux; the ability to launch GUI apps from the command prompt | 03:32 |
| theCore | crimsun: does gdebi did it better? | 03:33 |
| crimsun | theCore: certainly with more style | 03:34 |
| theCore | :) | 03:34 |
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| mgalvin | jsgotangco: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue1 | 04:58 |
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| mgalvin | just about all set so i think i am going to send it to ubuntu-news before i go to bed | 04:59 |
| mgalvin | take a peek and lemme know what you think | 04:59 |
| jsgotangco | i'd say | 05:00 |
| mgalvin | i just thought it would be nice to send them out each weekend | 05:01 |
| jsgotangco | although the edubuntu team might still want a detailed edubuntu newsletter every week though | 05:02 |
| jsgotangco | but i've just read this one, and I say its good to go | 05:02 |
| mgalvin | aside from the release its a slow news week, normally i think each distro will have more (and more detailed) info | 05:04 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 05:05 |
| jsgotangco | i think edgy opens in 2 days | 05:05 |
| jsgotangco | or 3 | 05:05 |
| mgalvin | yea | 05:05 |
| mgalvin | jane and mdz stressed one letter, but if the edubuntu team wants a dedicated letter i would not object but i don't know if it would really be necessary | 05:07 |
| jsgotangco | let's see how it goes next week, there's no activity after release so there isn't much to write about | 05:11 |
| jsgotangco | but i agree this is like resurrecting traffic | 05:11 |
| jsgotangco | brb i need to change locales to make console examples | 05:11 |
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| mgalvin | jsgotangco: i will send it on its way then, ok? and i think each will have more content next week anyway | 05:27 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 05:34 |
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| mgalvin | k | 05:37 |
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| mdke | Madpilot: are you in mid release party? | 11:47 |
| Madpilot | just got back from it, actually. it's 0246 here. | 11:47 |
| Madpilot | was good, only half a dozen people but much beer and geeking ;) | 11:47 |
| mdke | cool :) | 11:48 |
| mdke | happy dapper then | 11:48 |
| Madpilot | thanks | 11:48 |
| Madpilot | (especially now that I've got everything reinstalled and do indeed have a happy dapper on this box) | 11:48 |
| mdke | nice | 11:52 |
| lastnode | mdke, DRP in progress ;-) | 11:53 |
| mdke | lastnode: cool! | 11:55 |
| lastnode | Madpilot, you asked here in #ubuntu-offtopic? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SriLankanTeam/DapperReleaseParty | 11:58 |
| Madpilot | lastnode, nice - I just got back from our small release party here - mostly an excuse to drink beer with friends I don't see often enough, with a couple of new people this time | 11:59 |
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| lastnode | Madpilot, we've given out a lot of CDs actually | 12:08 |
| Madpilot | nice - what time of day is it in Sri Lanka right now | 12:08 |
| Madpilot | ? | 12:08 |
| mdke | lastnode: got some new translators? | 12:08 |
| lastnode | mdke, trying to find | 12:09 |
| lastnode | @now colombo | 12:11 |
| lastnode | Madpilot, it's 15:41 | 12:11 |
| Ubugtu | Current time in Asia/Colombo: June 04 2006, 16:11:32 | 12:11 |
| lastnode | there we go | 12:12 |
| lastnode | we changed time zones | 12:12 |
| Madpilot | ours was an evening party, at a private house - it would be interesting to do a public/daytime event | 12:15 |
| Madpilot | not sure we've got the manpower locally, though | 12:15 |
| lastnode | Madpilot, got pictures! uploading | 12:34 |
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| jsgotangco | mdke: ping? | 01:31 |
| jsgotangco | mdke: who said the Style Guide is in the Public domain? | 01:31 |
| jsgotangco | all the docs had their relevant license but it seems the style guide went to PD when it was explicitly licensed as CC-by-SA when it was announced | 01:34 |
| jsgotangco | GFDL+CC-by-SA | 01:34 |
| mdke | jsgotangco: eh? | 01:37 |
| jsgotangco | http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/styleguide/en/index.html | 01:38 |
| jsgotangco | it must have been a parsing thing during migration | 01:39 |
| mdke | jsgotangco: parsing? migration? | 01:40 |
| mdke | <releaseinfo>This document is in the Public Domain. </releasei nfo> | 01:40 |
| jsgotangco | I'm positive that doc isn't PD | 01:40 |
| mdke | jsgotangco: ok. But it says that it is | 01:40 |
| mdke | you'll need to talk to the maintainer to find out more though | 01:41 |
| mdke | i.e. jeff | 01:41 |
| mdke | i vaguely remember jeff asking each author's permission for a change of licence. Dunno if it was to PD though, I can't remember | 01:43 |
| jsgotangco | its dual license as our other docs im pretty sure it is because i made the annoucement but i will verify it as well | 01:44 |
| lastnode | mdke, picthaz - http://flickr.com/photos/mahangu/sets/72157594154931177/ | 02:07 |
| jsgotangco | where is this? | 02:09 |
| mdke | columbo | 02:11 |
| mdke | nice | 02:11 |
| jsgotangco | nice | 02:12 |
| jsgotangco | posh place even | 02:12 |
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| jsgotangco | is that a monk? | 02:24 |
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| smeacterne | hey guys - could somebody search their irc logs for this channel and see if any messages were sent from: rjvqv177 | 07:52 |
| smeacterne | I think I got hacked in the few days I've been away | 07:52 |
| mdke | ok, but I don't remember it | 07:53 |
| mdke | smeacterne: nope, is clean. | 07:54 |
| smeacterne | ok... thanks mdke | 07:58 |
| smeacterne | I'm going to have to dig around and see if I got hacked, or if there was just some server fluke | 07:58 |
| smeacterne | I'll be back when I get it sorted.. :-) | 07:59 |
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| sladen | mdke: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ needs some work | 08:00 |
| sladen | it currently says "Ubuntu doesn't have a pretty graphical installer, it has a FAST and EASY installer." ... | 08:00 |
| mdke | yes | 08:00 |
| mdke | filing a bug might be in order. | 08:01 |
| sladen | mdke: http://www.canonical.com/ doesn't mention employees in South Africa | 08:01 |
| mdke | sladen: no offence, but what has that got to do with me? | 08:04 |
| sladen | mdke: where's a better place? | 08:05 |
| mdke | sladen: http://canonical.com/contact | 08:05 |
| mdke | ? | 08:05 |
| sladen | mdke: you have a reputuation for getting things done, so it's easier to aims things at you than leaving them floating in the air | 08:05 |
| mdke | that's nice. But in this case I can't - I don't work for Canonical or have access to their website | 08:06 |
| mdke | as for the website, I can help | 08:06 |
| mdke | but I don't have much time to work on the alternative text, so if you file a bug or create a wiki page with better text, I will take a look, poke Henrik or upload it myself if it's not invasive | 08:07 |
| mdke | sladen: or if you don't have time either, I bet you can convince Corey to do it | 08:15 |
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| sladen | mdke: yeah, I noticed he wasn't in this channel | 08:16 |
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| Madpilot | just updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy with shiny Dapper screenshots | 10:34 |
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| Laser_away | sladen: are there employees in South Africa? | 11:03 |
| Burgundavia | Laser_away: of Canonical? yes | 11:03 |
| dsas | isn't janeW there? | 11:03 |
| Burgundavia | Laser_away: no response to my email yet | 11:03 |
| Burgundavia | dsas: yes, but she is leaving | 11:03 |
| dsas | Yeah, I think I heard that somewhere. | 11:05 |
| Laser_away | Burgundavia: I thought she said she was the last, but I could be mistaken | 11:06 |
| Burgundavia | she was, but I think her husband might be being hired | 11:06 |
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| mdke | I think sladen meant the people at tsf and hbd, dunno. They're not at canonical though | 11:09 |
| mdke | Madpilot: any luck with the old covers? I uploaded the pdfs to lulu | 11:10 |
| Madpilot | mdke, haven't even started, been busy with other stuff. I'll have a go with them in a few minutes. | 11:10 |
| mdke | Madpilot: oh awesome. Cheers | 11:11 |
| mdke | I feel like I'm bugging you too much | 11:11 |
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| Madpilot | np. re-installing the whole damn system has been a bit of a distraction here ;) | 11:14 |
| Burgundavia | ok, I have done my apt-get work today | 11:21 |
| mdke | Burgundavia: what's wrong with dovecot in dapper? | 11:23 |
| Madpilot | mdke, http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_Covers/UDG_it.png | 11:23 |
| Burgundavia | mdke: no, idea , the note was there before I got to the page | 11:23 |
| mdke | hmm | 11:24 |
| mdke | dovecot is in main... | 11:24 |
| mdke | Madpilot: looks good. do you have a script or are you doing it by hand? | 11:25 |
| Madpilot | bit of both. | 11:25 |
| Madpilot | robotgeek's script gets me the translated strings, then I just copy/paste into Inkscape | 11:25 |
| Madpilot | and export as png from there | 11:25 |
| mdke | Madpilot: ok. cool. Can you post me the back covers, and I'll start uploading some stuff | 11:26 |
| Madpilot | the back covers are all just plain | 11:26 |
| mdke | yeah | 11:26 |
| mdke | same for all languages | 11:26 |
| Madpilot | http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_Covers/Lulu_back_covers.tar.gz | 11:26 |
| Madpilot | ^^^ that should be the final size for the backs | 11:27 |
| mdke | great, thanks | 11:27 |
| Madpilot | pt & pt_BR are up at http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_Covers/ nw | 11:29 |
| Madpilot | now, even | 11:30 |
| poningru | in moinmoin how do you redirect? | 11:32 |
| Madpilot | poningru, #REDIRECT NewPage | 11:32 |
| poningru | sweet thanks | 11:32 |
| poningru | you mean [NewPage] right? | 11:33 |
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| mdke | just NewPage | 11:34 |
| poningru | oh... | 11:34 |
| Madpilot | mdke, es & sv up | 11:35 |
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| poningru | thanks | 11:37 |
| Madpilot | mdke, id up for UDG... I can't get the Chinese & Korean text to display properly for some reason | 11:41 |
| mdke | Madpilot: ok. thanks. Am uploading back covers | 11:42 |
| Madpilot | http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_Covers/XDG_pt_BR.png <-- pt_BR Xubuntu DG cover | 11:48 |
| mdke | Madpilot: can you give me good colour for the various spines? | 11:49 |
| mdke | something that will more or less beldn in with the front/back for each theme | 11:49 |
| mdke | not only beldn in, but also blend in | 11:49 |
| mdke | LaserJock: btw, how was the spine on your book? font big enough and so on? | 11:49 |
| Madpilot | mdke, the orange at the bottom of the Ubuntu DGs cover is #f44800, if you want to use that | 11:50 |
| Madpilot | XDG blue is #0081D3 | 11:50 |
| LaserJock | mdke: yeah, it did wrap a little bit though | 11:50 |
| mdke | LaserJock: how so? | 11:51 |
| LaserJock | mdke: like the spine was just a little too thin | 11:51 |
| LaserJock | just a smidgen | 11:51 |
| mdke | so a smaller font? | 11:51 |
| LaserJock | actually, I'm looking at it now | 11:51 |
| LaserJock | it looks like just wasn't centered quite right | 11:52 |
| LaserJock | the front cover is like 1mm on the spine | 11:52 |
| mdke | tut tut | 11:52 |
| LaserJock | but the font is good IMO | 11:52 |
| mdke | alright | 11:52 |
| mdke | not that I can remember what font it was :/ | 11:52 |
| LaserJock | hehe | 11:52 |
| mdke | Madpilot: http://mdke.org/tmp/cover.pdf | 11:53 |
| Madpilot | mdke, looks very cool | 11:54 |
| Madpilot | should we go for the tan on the spine instead though? | 11:55 |
| mdke | it might be safer, if there is a risk of one overlapping onto the other | 11:55 |
| mdke | I think it looks pretty cool though, don't mind | 11:55 |
| Madpilot | the UDG tan is #FDD99B | 11:56 |
| mdke | ok, gotcha | 11:57 |
| mdke | Xubuntu? | 11:57 |
| Madpilot | XDG's grey is #99A9C0 | 11:57 |
| Madpilot | Kubuntu is white, and the blue is #AACCEE | 11:58 |
| LaserJock | mdke: my solution to the spine thing was to make the Packaging Guide thicker ;-) | 11:58 |
| sladen | mdke: charles is there | 12:05 |
| Burgundavia | sladen: didn't charles move to Impi? | 12:05 |
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