[12:04] <jbirdAngel> oh
[12:04] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Could anyone tell me if there is a Turing compiler for linux?
[12:04] <MehAdult> jbirdAngel: rm -rf filename
[12:04] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: okay thanks
[12:05] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Could anyone tell me if there is a Turing compiler for linux?
[12:05] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: how do i do a folder?
[12:05] <MehAdult> Same.
[12:06] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: okay thanks i see i forgot a /
[12:06] <MehAdult> lol
[12:06] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: okay thank you for your help :)
[12:06] <MehAdult> Ok jbirdAngel I'm gonna eat and do stuff so adaios for now :0
[12:06] <MehAdult> :)
[12:07] <jbirdAngel> MehAdult: okay thanks, bye :)
[12:07] <tyfon_> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: turing is just a concept afaik, not a programming language
[12:07] <tyfon_> it describes a state machine
[12:07] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I program in turing and it is not a machine.
[12:07] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I need a compiler to compile my project for school.
[12:08] <Chousuke> Turing is some unknown programming language?
[12:08] <MehAdult> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: Never heard of it.
[12:09] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> here hold on
[12:09] <tyfon_> i've never heard of it either :p
[12:09] <Chousuke> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: Can't you do it in some less obscure language? :P
[12:09] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> lol I wanted to use C and C++ for my class but we have to use this cause it teaches us the basics
[12:11] <mrfishhat> anyone know of any good ghosting software?
[12:12] <mrfishhat> i need to transfer my install to another hard drive
[12:12] <Chousuke> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: Hm
[12:12] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> What?
[12:12] <Chousuke> The Turing homepage says there is a linux version
[12:12] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> cool
[12:12] <Chousuke> but apparently it's proprietary.
[12:12] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> meaning?
[12:12] <Chousuke> I suppose your school should have the licences for it.
[12:13] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Ya
[12:13] <Chousuke> Ask them for the Linux environment
[12:13] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> ok
[12:13] <Chousuke> Turing is not a free environment. :/
[12:13] <Chousuke> (You should never program actual software with a proprietary language)
[12:14] <Chousuke> at least when there are dozens of alternatives :P
[12:15] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Well I am not it is a project for school
[12:15] <Chousuke> Yeah. I understand that.
[12:15] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I use C and C++
[12:15] <ateves> hi, i wanted to replace KDM with XDM, and i was asked by the setup which one i want to use, so i selected XDM, but i still have to login via KDM
[12:15] <ateves> what do i have to change?
[12:15] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> But we have to learn this first
[12:15] <Chousuke> Pretty weird of them to pick some proprietary language for teaching.
[12:15] <tyfon_> yes
[12:15] <Chousuke> one you will never use in real life.
[12:16] <tyfon_> i have never heard of turing programming language and ive seen most of it :p
[12:16] <Chousuke> :P
[12:16] <RadiantFire> turing programming languages?
[12:16] <tyfon_> now i have to research it lol
[12:16] <Chousuke> I'd use Python if I taught programming.
[12:16] <RadiantFire> how do you make a programming language out of a concept?
[12:16] <Chousuke> RadiantFire: there is a programming language called Turing
[12:17] <RadiantFire> oh, that would make more sense...
[12:17] <Chousuke> proprietary --;
[12:17] <RadiantFire> thats a silly thing to name a language
[12:17] <RadiantFire> got me all confused
[12:17] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> lol
[12:17] <RadiantFire> I was thinking about Turing Machine's
[12:17] <RadiantFire> like, huh, that doesn't make sense
[12:17] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> What is the diffrence with a Turing Machine?
[12:18] <RadiantFire> so real question, do I have to do something special to a script in .kde/Autostart to make it execute
[12:18] <tyfon_> ah its made as a educational language
[12:18] <tyfon_> it sais so on webpage, its not actually used for anything else :p
[12:18] <MidMark> guys is it possible to hear from rear speakers for all audio apps? Like amarok, kaffeine ecc.
[12:18] <Chousuke> I think Python is good for beginners. It's simple and clean, object-oriented, and works for teaching some functional programming concepts too :)
[12:18] <RadiantFire> everyone uses java these days
[12:18] <RadiantFire> ...
[12:18] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> tyfon I could have told you that...lol
[12:19] <tyfon_> pascal is nice teaching language
[12:19] <Chousuke> auh
[12:19] <tyfon_> very strict so you dont get the VB style programming you see in php/perl etc
[12:19] <tyfon_> or basic style
[12:19] <Chousuke> I suffered pascal in school.
[12:19] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Turing is based on Pascal
[12:19] <Chousuke> The language was fine, I guess.
[12:19] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> at least that is what we were told
[12:19] <Chousuke> but we were forced to use it as a tool for drawing pictures.
[12:20] <Chousuke> They hadn't heard of drawing programs apparently :(
[12:20] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Next year I get to learn C++ and Java which will be much better
[12:20] <tyfon_> :p
[12:20] <MidMark> guys is it possible to hear from rear speakers for all audio apps? Like amarok, kaffeine ecc.
[12:20] <RadiantFire> C++ is a fun language
[12:20] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Ya
[12:20] <RadiantFire> MidMark: probably, whats you xine setup?
[12:20] <Chousuke> Java. hmmh
[12:20] <MidMark> RadiantFire: oh thanx for your answer,,,
[12:20] <RadiantFire> Java is good, and there are some good development environments for teaching it
[12:21] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> another question for you guys...
[12:21] <Chousuke> I don't like Java for some reason.
[12:21] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> what is the Linux equivilent of DreamWeaver?
[12:21] <MidMark> RadiantFire: cannot hear nothing... starting from amarok
[12:21] <MidMark> RadiantFire: is there a way?
[12:21] <Chousuke> Though I've never really used Java
[12:21] <haakonn> hi, anyone else having problems with amarok in 6.06? it just refuses to play certain tracks, skipping them immediately. others work just fine
[12:21] <Chousuke> Maybe I'd learn to appreciate it if I tried learning it. :)
[12:21] <RadiantFire> I don't know
[12:22] <RadiantFire> haakonn: what type tracks areyou trying to use?
[12:22] <tyfon_> java is fine as well as just about any language.. its the toolkit that suck :) (i h8 swt)
[12:22] <mrfishhat> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: use NVU as a dreamweaver replacement
[12:22] <RadiantFire> lol, yes swt is evil
[12:22] <haakonn> RadiantFire:  actually it seems to not play mp3, only ogg
[12:22] <RadiantFire> er, swing
[12:22] <lime4x4> is there a trick to get vnc to work on kubuntu from a ubuntu box?
[12:22] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> NVU???
[12:22] <RadiantFire> !tell haakonn about libxine-extracodecs
[12:22] <mrfishhat> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: or you could use dreamweaver through crossover office or wine
[12:22] <haakonn> :)
[12:22] <RadiantFire> that failed
[12:22] <tyfon_> quanta is nice for webdevelopment too
[12:22] <RadiantFire> oh well
[12:23] <RadiantFire> but yeah, you need to install libxine-extracodec
[12:23] <mrfishhat> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: yeah..... is something wrong with NVU?
[12:23] <RadiantFire> from multiverse
[12:23] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> no I have no idea what it is????
[12:23] <Chousuke> it's an application
[12:23] <haakonn> RadiantFire:  thanks, worked
[12:23] <Chousuke> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: sudo aptitude install nvu :P
[12:23] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> is there a website?
[12:23] <mrfishhat> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: or apt-get
[12:23] <tyfon_> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: since you are in #kubunto i asume you have kde, you should have quanta installed as default, its kde's web development app
[12:24] <tyfon_> #kubuntu*
[12:24] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I do have KDW
[12:24] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> KDE*
[12:24] <mrfishhat> i dont think quanta comes in kubuntu
[12:24] <tyfon_> erm no it doesnt, i just looked O.o
[12:24] <tyfon_> hmm
[12:24] <mrfishhat> it comes in the KDE packages
[12:24] <tyfon_> yeah
[12:24] <mrfishhat> but not in kubuntu
[12:25] <mrfishhat> they have a different set
[12:25] <mrfishhat> use NVU
[12:25] <RadiantFire> gah
[12:26] <RadiantFire> how do I make something in ~/.kde/Autostart execute?
[12:26] <DrBair> why is audio lag so much lower when I make an application use OSS output instead of ALSA?
[12:26] <tyfon_> RadiantFire: needs to be a .desktop file i think
[12:26] <RadiantFire> oh
[12:27] <jbirdAngel> in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird what does the ~ mean
[12:27] <RadiantFire> what is required for a desktop file
[12:27] <RadiantFire> ?
[12:27] <tyfon_> right click desktop->create new icon or something and open the file it creates in vi to look
[12:27] <tyfon_> create new link to application
[12:28] <RadiantFire> so basically, I want to execute a comand, would I put that in Exec?
[12:28] <tyfon_> yes
[12:30] <tyfon_> i do have something telling me in the back of my head that there is a line to tell kde that it is a autoexec thing too, but i can't remember.. gonna check it up
[12:31] <RadiantFire> thx
[12:31] <tyfon_> ok it should work with a shell script aswell
[12:31] <tyfon_> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Autostart_Programs#KDE
[12:31] <RadiantFire> kde is stoopid and doesn't detect my multimedia keys, so I have a script set up
[12:31] <RadiantFire> the script way didn't work
[12:31] <tyfon_> hmm
[12:31] <RadiantFire> ahhh, good ole gentoo
[12:31] <RadiantFire> i did make it +x
[12:31] <RadiantFire> i exec it manually and it works
[12:32] <RadiantFire> gah
[12:32] <RadiantFire> I'm a moron
[12:32] <RadiantFire> i forgot the /bin/bash
[12:32] <mrfishhat> so does anyone know of a good ghosting app?
[12:32] <RadiantFire> shoot me now...
[12:32] <tyfon_> ;)
[12:32] <mrfishhat> for i need to transfer all the files of one hard drive to another
[12:32] <tyfon_> mrfishhat: where will you store the image?
[12:32] <LeeJunFan> mrfishhat: is this a system dir like /?
[12:32] <tyfon_> or do you need to store the image at all?
[12:33] <Slappy> Hi all got a question
[12:33] <Slappy> Can i apt-get to get Xbuntu?
[12:33] <mrfishhat> its a whole drive
[12:33] <mrfishhat> and hopefully partition table
[12:33] <psyke83> Slappy: yep, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:34] <LeeJunFan> mrfishhat: you'll have to make partitions on the dest drive first, format them and copy the data to them.
[12:34] <mrfishhat> ah
[12:34] <mrfishhat> and ways of doing it stably and safely?
[12:34] <LeeJunFan> mrfishhat: if the HD's are EXACTLY the same size you can use dd to copy one to the other - partition tables and all.
[12:34] <mrfishhat> naw
[12:34] <mrfishhat> ones a 120
[12:34] <mrfishhat> and the other is a 250
[12:35] <mrfishhat> now i wont mind if it makes a 120 partiton
[12:35] <tyfon_> put new drive inn, format it and mount it
[12:35] <tyfon_> tar clvf - /path/to/olddrive | tar xvf - -C /path/to/newdrive
[12:35] <LeeJunFan> mrfishhat: problem is that you don't want to copy pseudo FS's (ie ram fs'es) like /sys, /proc, /dev, so you need to use a utility which will skip those, personally I like using tar for that.
[12:36] <LeeJunFan> yeah, like tyfon_ says.
[12:36] <jbirdAngel> i clicked to open adept like 10 minutes ago and its still not open?
[12:36] <mrfishhat> will it still be bootable?
[12:36] <tyfon_> no
[12:36] <tyfon_> you need to run grub on it again
[12:36] <tyfon_> the new drive
[12:36] <LeeJunFan> mrfishhat: you probably can omit the v from one side or the other of that though, or you get 2 messages for every file it copies.
[12:37] <tyfon_> yes ;)
[12:37] <tyfon_> and you put - in front of the options, i typed that w/o looking hehe
[12:37] <mrfishhat> and how would i make it bootable?
[12:37] <LeeJunFan> oh, and --one-file-system
[12:37] <tyfon_> -l = --one-file-system
[12:38] <LeeJunFan> something like this: tar --one-file-system -cv [path to src]  | tar -C [path to dest]  -x
[12:38] <LeeJunFan> ah right.
[12:39] <systest> is there a doc for people transitioning from RH/Fedora to Debian/Ubuntu?
[12:40] <mrfishhat> i made that transition
[12:40] <mrfishhat> now i dont ever want to go back
[12:40] <tyfon_> mrfishhat: you need to set up grub on the new disk, it could get messy though if you remove the old one etc..
[12:41] <mrfishhat> ah
[12:41] <mikedep333> hey guys, if I experience a bug in something in ubuntu, either in main or universe, who should I report it to? the ubuntu maintainer or the original author(s)?
[12:41] <mrfishhat> maybe it would be easier to do a fresh install
[12:41] <mrfishhat> and then copy all the things i need
[12:41] <mrfishhat> and all the apps
[12:41] <mrfishhat> apt-get them again
[12:41] <tyfon_> keep the data, and do fresh install ;)
[12:42] <beeman_> hey guys
[12:42] <tyfon_> it can be done the other way, but you need to do more then just copy the files you need to point the bootloader to the new kernel location etc
[12:42] <beeman_> how to add someone to sudoers group
[12:42] <beeman_> ?
[12:42] <tyfon_> add them to the admin group
[12:43] <LeeJunFan> mrfishhat: after the data is all copied you can run grub-install --root-directory=[path to new /]  hd1
[12:43] <beeman_> ight thx
[12:44] <LeeJunFan> mrfishhat: you could try as tyfon and I have said and if it doesn't work worst case scenario is that you learn some stuff along the way.
[12:44] <mrfishhat> yeah
[12:44] <mrfishhat> im just thinking
[12:44] <mrfishhat> it might be easier
[12:44] <tyfon_> backup your data first ;)
[12:44] <LeeJunFan> mrfishhat: fallback would be re-install.
[12:44] <mrfishhat> to just do a fresh on the new drive
[12:44] <LeeJunFan> tyfon_: hehe, that's kind of what he's trying to do :)
[12:44] <mrfishhat> and copy the things i need over
[12:45] <mrfishhat> then apt-get wat i need
[12:45] <daeds> hey, im having troubles with installing dapper... i get to the partition section and tell the installer to just automatically set everything by using the entire drive but it says it cant make the partition. there is nothing wrong with the hdd, it just has half a debian netinst on it that i dont want anymore... any ideas?
[12:45] <daeds> might be the hardware but im unsure
[12:45] <daeds> im doing it on a rather old hp omnibook 4150B
[12:45] <LeeJunFan> daeds: might be the old partition's throwing it off, perhaps delete those first, then let it auto-partition.
[12:46] <daeds> perhaps
[12:46] <zac851> guys, this may be a dumb question but is there a way to remove the Klipper icon from the task bar?
[12:47] <daeds> i'll give it a go LeeJunFan, once i have burnt a cd good enough to do it! :D
[12:47] <LeeJunFan> zac851: just to the left of klipper right click.
[12:47] <zac851> ok
[12:47] <jbirdAngel> i clicked to open adept like 10 minutes ago and its still not open?
[12:48] <zac851> on the left i can remove things,  but klipper is not one of them
[12:48] <jbirdAngel> why doesnt it open after i click to open it, its not just that it takes awhile its that it doesnt open
[12:48] <linuxmonkey> jbirdAngel: click it again
[12:48] <LeeJunFan> zac851: too far left? you should see a little bar of dots to the left of klipper as you move your mouse over it.
[12:49] <jbirdAngel> linuxmonkey: i did and it opened, but why does it do this?
[12:49] <LeeJunFan> zac851: well, perhaps not dots, depends on your look and feel settings I imagine.
[12:50] <zac851> ok i got ya i see that i click on it and i see move system tray, removie system tray, configure system tray, and panel menu
[12:50] <linuxmonkey> jbirdAngel: the process times out
[12:50] <linuxmonkey> something causes it to hang or it didnt close properly the last time
[12:51] <zac851> ahh
[12:51] <zac851> configure
[12:51] <zac851> thanks
[12:51] <scanner> Ciao
[12:51] <scanner> :-)
[12:51] <scanner> Can someone say me which groups have a user per default
[12:52] <scanner> ?
[12:52] <scanner> ?
[12:52] <scanner> :-(
[12:52] <scanner> I have created a new user
[12:53] <scanner> But have no groups
[12:53] <linuxmonkey> scanner you can check that yourself by going to Kmenu--->system settings-->user and groups
[12:53] <LeeJunFan> scanner: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[12:53] <scanner> thx
[12:53] <scanner> :-)
[12:54] <scanner> But adm too?
[12:54] <scanner> ?
[12:54] <LeeJunFan> scanner: I think you need adm to start X
[12:55] <scanner> For what I need dip?
[12:55] <scanner> and lpadmin?
[12:55] <LeeJunFan> beats me, but those are defaults, not sure what dip is, but lpadmin probably for adding printers and such.
[12:55] <daeds> haha
[12:56] <daeds> just got rid of all my partitions
[12:56] <scanner> Thx a lot
[12:56] <scanner> ;-)
[12:56] <daeds> caused a lovely kernel panic on boot
[12:56] <LeeJunFan> daeds: booting from the CD?
[12:57] <daeds> yeah
[12:57] <daeds> might need to wipe my mbr clean
[12:57] <LeeJunFan> daeds: heh, that doesn't make much sense. Apparently they only tested against people changing over from windows not other distro's :)
[12:57] <LeeJunFan> s/they/we
[12:58] <LeeJunFan> all of us.
[12:58] <tyfon_> daeds: fdisk lists any partitions on it?
[12:59] <tyfon_> might be some hidden partitions with biosdata or whatever on it :p
[12:59] <daeds> trying to actually get to a partition manager now
[12:59] <tyfon_> open a konsole and type fdisk /dev/hda
[01:00] <tyfon_> then type p<enter>
[01:00] <tyfon_> see what it sais.. if there is nothing, it should be clean
[01:00] <daeds> i cant boot the live cd
[01:01] <tyfon_> ouch
[01:01] <klerfayt> I need more info about "i2c" in xorg.conf
[01:01] <daeds> kernel panics before the properly bootds
[01:02] <daeds> ranish shows there is no partitions
[01:02] <daeds> doesnt make sense
[01:06] <kakalto> if I currently have a breezy xubuntu install, but only use it in the command line (I don't use X), can I use the kubuntu alternate cd to upgrade, or do I have to use the xubuntu alternate cd ?
[01:06] <crimsun> either
[01:06] <daeds> hmmm i'll just zero fill the drive or low level format
[01:06] <crimsun> or you can use aptitude/apt-get/dselect
[01:07] <crimsun> all the ubuntu derivatives use the same repository
[01:07] <kakalto> crimsun: so the kubuntu one will work. I just would rather not download lots, if I can
[01:07] <kakalto> I want to use the kubuntu cd for another computer anyway, and only want to download that
[01:08] <kakalto> considering it takes about a day to download for me
[01:08] <crimsun> kakalto: sure, that would work, but realise the Xfce packages won't be updated
[01:09] <crimsun> kakalto: in fact, there's a strong possibility they'd be removed
[01:09] <crimsun> kakalto: given you're only concerned with dist-upgrading base, though, [or at least it seems that way]  it's moot
[01:09] <kakalto> hmm
[01:10] <jbirdAngel> crimsun: why wouldnt xfce packages update isnt xubuntu just as part of it as kubuntu?
[01:10] <kakalto> I suppose it's not "compatible" to run breezy versions of xorg and what not with dapper base?
[01:10] <kakalto> jbirdAngel: because the kubuntu cd doesn't have the xfce packages on it
[01:10] <crimsun> what kakalto said.
[01:11] <jbirdAngel> oh, but if you had the xubuntu cd then ud be fine?
[01:11] <kakalto> yeah.
[01:11] <crimsun> yes.
[01:11] <jbirdAngel> okay sorry then and thank you
[01:11] <kakalto> but the xubuntu cd is another 700mb download.... which, on my connection is about 7hours..
[01:11] <crimsun> if kakalto has network connectivity, then yes, Xfce packages would be dist-upgraded, too
[01:11] <kakalto> crimsun: how exactly does the alternate/upgrade work?
[01:11] <crimsun> but that's one of the things that I assume won't be valid since he's asking about images specifically
[01:12] <crimsun> kakalto: meaning the text-based one?
[01:12] <kakalto> will I get prompts with how much will be downloaded, stuff like that?
[01:12] <kakalto> crimsun: I figured it would be text-based, I don't mind
[01:13] <jbirdAngel> kakalto: what about being mailed the xubuntu cd?
[01:13] <crimsun> kakalto: if no active network is detected (or if you choose to skip network configuration or if you don't have a network configuration in your current install), then just the packages on the cd will be used
[01:13] <kakalto> I'd just like to retain gui availability, even though I don't always use the GUI because it's too slow. sometimes I need ff for, like, the ubuntu wiki
[01:13] <crimsun> kakalto: so there's no prompt for downloading packages in that path
[01:13] <jbirdAngel> sorry i dnt know what is being talked about so ill stop
[01:13] <kakalto> jbirdAngel: 6 weeks, I'm a little impatient :P
[01:14] <jbirdAngel> kakalto: that is a long time but if you have kubuntu and it works for now then you could be mailed the xubuntu cd and switch then if that works better?
[01:14] <jbirdAngel> well long time for mail or to install an os if you alreayd have a cd with kubuntu
[01:15] <kakalto> are xubuntu cds available for shipping?
[01:15] <crimsun> kakalto: not that I'm aware
[01:15] <jbirdAngel> kakalto: im sure someone wouldnt mind mailing you one even if its not an official one, if your willing to trust that person
[01:16] <kakalto> and with the alternate cd... if it does detect network, does it prompt before downloading? or just launch straight in
[01:17] <kakalto> jbirdAngel: nice idea, but I doubt whether it'd work
[01:17] <jbirdAngel> kakalto: why is that
[01:17] <Vose> Hi
[01:17] <jbirdAngel> hello
[01:18] <Vose> I just pluged in a 16mg  thumb drive how do I get it to be recognized
[01:19] <kakalto> dapper doesn't detect automatically?
[01:19] <kakalto> jbirdAngel: that requires someone to send it.
[01:19] <crimsun> Vose: it's detected, but it's probably not automounted like in kde or gnome
[01:20] <jbirdAngel> kakalto: i can send it
[01:20] <Vose> crimsun how do I mount it?
[01:20] <crimsun> Vose: you can use pmount
[01:20] <jbirdAngel> kakalto: i just download the cd and burn it right
[01:22] <kakalto> jbirdAngel: I wouldn't burden you with it, I mean, I can just download it. it'll just take a while. anyways, even if you sent it, it'd take a few weeks, wouldn't it?
[01:22] <jbirdAngel> kakalto: i dunno depends on where you live i guess
[01:23] <Vose> crimsun how do I know what labe to put after pmount?
[01:23] <jbirdAngel> i wouldnt mind
[01:23] <tyfon_> ubuntu ships cd's too you for free
[01:23] <iain> I ran Automatix, but I can't get the Swiftfox Flash plugin to work. Anyone fixed it?
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[01:24] <jbirdAngel> tyfon_: kakalto would like xubuntu tho
[01:24] <crimsun> Vose: normally yes, device and then label
[01:24] <Fillado> iain: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:24] <crimsun> Vose: for instance: pmount /dev/sdb1 usbdisk
[01:24] <iain> Fillado: tried that
[01:25] <iain> Fillado: I did the update-flash thing too
[01:25] <Fillado> you restarted your browser?
[01:25] <crimsun> Vose: [using ``pmount /dev/sdb1'' means that /media/sdb1 will be used, whereas above, /media/usbdisk will be used] 
[01:25] <iain> yes
[01:25] <kakalto> jbirdAngel: I'd say I'm in a completely different part of the world
[01:26] <jbirdAngel> kakalto: well if you can get mail i can send it
[01:26] <MidMark> how many languages has kubuntu?
[01:27] <tyfon_> kde has 80+ i think
[01:27] <kakalto> jbirdAngel: nah, thanks but no thanks
[01:27] <Yagami> hi
[01:28] <Yagami> can anyone help about installing kubuntu into an raid0 ?
[01:28] <jbirdAngel> kakalto: okay, your welcome, let me know if you change your mind
[01:28] <kakalto> Yagami: hi :)
[01:29] <nixternal> haha
[01:29] <kakalto> jbirdAngel: ok, thanks
[01:29] <linuxmonkey> lmao
[01:29] <nixternal> Yagami: i am doing it right now
[01:29] <Vose> Error: device /dev/sda1 is already mounted to /media/sda1
[01:29] <nixternal> LOL
[01:29] <LeeJunFan> Yagami: /boot has to be on non raid
[01:29] <nixternal> omg..i have had issue after issue with it and now i finally got it
[01:29] <crimsun> Vose: is sda1 your usb disk?
[01:29] <Vose> crimsun it gave me this error
[01:29] <crazy_penguin> good night to all! sleep well!
[01:29] <Vose> I think so crimsun
[01:29] <Yagami> nixternal: ... did you create the raid0 from the ubuntu install or did you already had the disks on raid0 ?
[01:30] <Yagami> LeeJunFan: why ?
[01:30] <nixternal> from kubuntu install...alternative install disk
[01:30] <Yagami> ok , this is the problem
[01:30] <Yagami> i have already windows and gentoo on my raid0
[01:30] <LeeJunFan> Yagami: because bootloaders don't do software raid.
[01:30] <LeeJunFan> Yagami: it's hardware raid?
[01:31] <Yagami> i have another partition on the raid , and i would like to install on it
[01:31] <Yagami> LeeJunFan:  i am using raid0 and grub is booting into it
[01:31] <Yagami> on it and into it
[01:31] <Yagami> its a promise controler ( sil )
[01:31] <kakalto> am I correct in saying the the alternate cd is the same as the desktop cd, but without the live environment, instead, a ncurses installer?
[01:32] <RadiantFire> yes
[01:32] <jbirdAngel> kakalto: welcome
[01:33] <nixternal> Yagami: let me see if i got this right...you have a partition that you would like to install ubuntu/kubuntu on that is already part of the raid?
[01:34] <Vose> crimsun any ideas?
[01:34] <Yagami> nixternal:  yes
[01:35] <crimsun> Vose: I'm /extremely/ busy atm
[01:35] <Vose> crimsun ok cool thank you
[01:35] <Yagami> i have a raid0 that has windows / boot / root / home / special partition to install some distros / swap
[01:35] <crimsun> Vose: pastebin ``dmesg'' and tell me the url
[01:35] <nixternal> and let me guess...ubuntu/kubuntu disk doesn't see the raid partition you want to use...it shows your drives instead
[01:35] <Yagami> nixternal: yeps
[01:36] <nixternal> see...i had to manually create my partitions...and i did them from scratch...created my raid and everything...single boot though...so i don't know exactly how to go about your issue...sorry..i don't want to give advice and it does'nt work
[01:36] <Yagami> of all the distros , fedora is the only one to do it easy ... i dunno how to do it either in suse or ubuntu
[01:36] <nixternal> you said you had gentoo on your setup though right?
[01:37] <Yagami> yes , i have a gentoo bot
[01:37] <nixternal> because researching my issue..i found all my answers in the gentoo forums pretty much
[01:37] <nixternal> i read about using mdraid and what not...and using gentoo to install it so that ubuntu/kubuntu would see the disk
[01:37] <Yagami> nixternal:  weird is that if i in the kubuntu install , go into console , and do a "modprobe dm-zero | dmraid -ay -i"
[01:37] <Yagami> nixternal:  i have a /dev/mapper/sil"all the disks"
[01:38] <Vose> crimsun http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/758685
[01:38] <kakalto> on the alternate cd, do you boot into it to upgrade from it, or simply add it as an extra source?
[01:39] <nixternal> i am booting kubuntu on raid0 for the first time...im kinda scared...so one sec
[01:39] <nixternal> ;D
[01:41] <Yagami> i really dunno what to do
[01:41] <Yagami> fedora is the only distro i can install in here :(
[01:42] <Yagami> i dont want to destroy the raid set
[01:45] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Does anyone know of a free Webhosting service where I can upload my pages and have a personal web page?
[01:47] <jbirdAngel> does kubuntu use rpms?
[01:47] <jbirdAngel> to install
[01:47] <crimsun> no, debs.
[01:47] <jbirdAngel> 2.1 or 3+?
[01:47] <crimsun> Vose: are you using the updated 3.5.3 packages?
[01:48] <TheUni2> i can't get xgl to work on a fresh install of kubuntu. sometimes it freezes at boot, somtimes gets halfway then starts acting weird, sometimes works great for 2-3 minutes then the keyboard stops responding. but when i disable the autostart script, everything's back to normal
[01:48] <crimsun> jbirdAngel: debian packages, not a specific debian release version.
[01:48] <TheUni2> any ideas?
[01:48] <jbirdAngel> crimsun: okay thanks
[01:48] <Vose> I just started using kubuntu and downalded it like a couple day's ago before 6 came out. So yes I think so crimsun
[01:48] <kakalto> is there an iso image planned to include the 3.5.3 kde packages, in dapper?
[01:49] <crimsun> kakalto: possibly, but that requires testing and tweaking.
[01:49] <crimsun> Vose: apt-cache policy kdelibs4c2a
[01:49] <[Seawolf] > hi all
[01:49] <kakalto> crimsun: I guess that's a no?
[01:49] <kakalto> TheUni2: you been following some kind of documentation?
[01:49] <kakalto> [Seawolf] : hi.
[01:49] <crimsun> kakalto: "possibly" is quite different from "no"...
[01:49] <linuxmonkey> kakalto: and some stuff dont work quite right yet in 3.5.3
[01:50] <TheUni2> kakalto: yea, followed a guide
[01:50] <jbirdAngel> hello seq
[01:50] <Vose> Crimsun it said "W: Unable to locate package kdelibs4c2a"
[01:50] <jbirdAngel> n/m
[01:50] <Yagami> isnt there any documentation or method to install into a bios raid set ?!??? damn !!
[01:50] <TheUni2> kakalto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=845077
[01:50] <kakalto> linuxmonkey: kde issues or kubuntu integrating issues?
[01:50] <crimsun> Vose: ``apt-cache policy kdelibs4c2a''
[01:51] <linuxmonkey> preaty sure their kde  but couldnt say 100% its stuff I heard
[01:52] <kakalto> TheUni2: nvidia?
[01:52] <TheUni2> kakalto: yea.
[01:52] <kakalto> linuxmonkey: ahk. I heard there was quite a bit of change in 3.5.3
[01:52] <kakalto> the first time they've introduced a bit of new stuff in a bugfix release, due to there being no kde 3.6
[01:53] <kakalto> in other words, due to the long time away that kde4 is
[01:53] <Vose> crimsun http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/758704
[01:53] <devin_> Need help .. I have a R-40 thinkpad laptop, It has a Radeon Mobility 7500 but I can't seem to get the right drivers to work for it
[01:53] <kakalto> ubotu, tell TheUni2 about xgl
[01:53] <kakalto> TheUni2: that's all I can really do to help... xgl isn't exactly marked _stable_ yet
[01:54] <crimsun> Vose: ah, you're on breezy. ``apt-cache policy kdelibs4c2''
[01:54] <kakalto> TheUni2: I don't use it, I haven't tried it, but I do see the "warning: alpha software" labels
[01:54] <crimsun> Vose: in that case, you're not running 3.5.3 [I'm pretty certain] 
[01:54] <Vose> what is breezy?
[01:55] <crimsun> Vose: that's the name of the previous stable release
[01:55] <Vose> Installed: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1
[01:56] <Qrawl> where are my system sounds
[01:56] <Qrawl> the only one Ive ever heard is that error sound
[01:56] <kakalto> lol
[01:57] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> What is a good linux program for MIDI?
[01:58] <Vose> to upgread I need to downoad the iso image right and run the cd?
[01:58] <Stryk> Hi >.>
[01:59] <Stryk> Im kinda having upgrade issues...
[01:59] <Stryk> Adept wont connect to DL any of the updates.
[01:59] <qbar> anyone had problems with kcheckgmail in kubuntu dapper?
[02:00] <Stryk> anyone?
[02:00] <Qrawl> .  /usr/share/sounds
[02:00] <kakalto> Stryk: yeah, adept is a little screwy in dapper
[02:00] <qbar> stryk: are you trying to upgrade from breezy?
[02:01] <Stryk> Nope
[02:01] <Stryk> DLed the iso for Dapper.
[02:01] <Stryk> And installed, etc
[02:01] <Stryk> Everything works fine...I just cant seem to update.
[02:01] <qbar> what do it say?
[02:01] <kakalto> Stryk: I'm not sure if it'll help, but you can always use the gnome app, update-manager
[02:01] <kakalto> Stryk: am I right in saying that it crashes on trying to update something?
[02:02] <Stryk> When I click "Apply Changes"
[02:02] <Stryk> In adept
[02:02] <kakalto> that's the issue I had on one computer
[02:02] <Stryk> after the request install clicking and whatnot
[02:02] <Stryk> I get an error saying
[02:02] <qbar> does it work if you use aptitude in the console?
[02:02] <Stryk> Nada.
[02:02] <kakalto> Stryk: you get an error saying nada?
[02:03] <kakalto> =p
[02:03] <Stryk> No I was about to type the error actually :P
[02:03] <Stryk> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[02:03] <Stryk> Tis rather short and to the point...but useless as far as improving my situation.
[02:03] <qbar> Does kcheckgmail work for anyone?  it crashes on me when I start it up
[02:04] <kakalto> Stryk: when you start up adept again, does it notify you of the same updates?
[02:04] <Stryk> Yep. Same list every time.
[02:04] <qbar> 3 updates?
[02:04] <kakalto> Stryk: I know that update-manager did install them
[02:04] <kakalto> (on my friend's)
[02:04] <kakalto> after adept issues, that it
[02:04] <Stryk> >.> Which I would run...by doing...
[02:04] <kakalto> *that is
[02:05] <kakalto> Stryk: ALT-F2 should bring up the run dialogue. go "gksudo update-manager"
[02:05] <Stryk> k
[02:05] <xtacocorex> did kuickshow make it into dapper, i don't see it in the repos
[02:05] <Stryk> gksudo update-manager
[02:05] <Stryk> Could not run the specified command.
[02:06] <Stryk> Is what I get >.>
[02:06] <Stryk> Does the apt-get work in the shell for this..?
[02:06] <qbar> I don't think so xtacocorex
[02:06] <xtacocorex> qbar, thanks, i guess i'll download from source
[02:07] <joch> Stryk: try sudo apt-get upgrade from the terminal
[02:07] <Stryk> Does the apt-get upgrade command work in the shell for this..?
[02:07] <qbar> does anyone know if amarok can access itunes shared libraries?
[02:07] <Stryk> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pcmcia-cs/pcmcia-cs_3.2.8-5.2ubuntu6_i386.deb  Connection failed [IP: 85.133.25.8 80] 
[02:07] <qbar> stryk: first type sudo aptitude update
[02:07] <Stryk> I get that message times...like...ehh...20?
[02:08] <Stryk> Maybe more. Maybe a little less.
[02:08] <Stryk> I didnt count exactly >.>
[02:08] <joch> Stryk: ok, the us mirror may be down
[02:08] <kakalto> Stryk: oh, you may have to install "update-manager" first, I don't know
[02:08] <joch> Stryk: but try an apt-get update first
[02:08] <Stryk> k
[02:08] <kakalto> sadly, I'm not actually under kubuntu right now, so I can't really tell
[02:08] <Stryk> rr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Sources
[02:08] <Stryk>   Connection failed [IP: 85.133.25.7 80] 
[02:08] <Stryk> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Connection failed [IP: 85.133.25.7 80] 
[02:08] <Stryk> I get that...but repeated a bunch more.
[02:09] <joch> Stryk: okay, switch us. to ca. or something in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:09] <joch> ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:09] <Stryk> Ten of them actually. A nice even number.
[02:09] <Stryk> ok.
[02:09] <kakalto> OH
[02:10] <kakalto> Stryk: update-manager might, or might not be installed... but gksudo won't be. try "kdesu update-manager"
[02:10] <qbar> does the system settings window mess up for people?  like not showing the entire window, and not giving a scroll bar?
[02:10] <Stryk> I get an error if I try that.
[02:11] <gil_> could someone tell me how to install bootsplash screens from kde-look
[02:11] <Stryk> And I changed the server...nada still.
[02:11] <Stryk> Same error.
[02:11] <Stryk> I tried the kdesu command as well.
[02:11] <Stryk> I get a "Command does not exist"
[02:11] <joch> Stryk: did you run apt-get update after changing servers?
[02:11] <Stryk> Yeah. Exact same errors.
[02:11] <joch> i think it's called kdsu
[02:11] <Stryk> Just change the server names and voila.
[02:12] <Stryk> I get an error about a bad device.
[02:12] <joch> oh?
[02:12] <Stryk> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[02:12] <Stryk> Yah
[02:12] <Stryk> And a Major Opcode, Min opcode, initialization ID and then it says "Failed to Open Device"
[02:12] <Stryk> err..resource ID.
[02:12] <Stryk> *
[02:12] <joch> strange
[02:13] <Stryk> Hm. Actually, prior to this, I had ubuntu installed. And the error message THAT gave me was a bit more..descriptive.
[02:13] <Stryk> (From a what other people had wrong with it perspective)
[02:14] <Stryk> Something about a proxy being set incorrectly. Didnt seem to like my router.
[02:14] <pussfeller> im trying to adjust my screen rez in kde but it saying it cant load the module
[02:15] <Vose> crimsun I am still here
[02:16] <qbar> gil_: go to system settings: display
[02:16] <gil_> yes?
[02:16] <qbar> gil_: see how it has a place on the left for splash screens?
[02:16] <gil_> thats ksplash....
[02:16] <crimsun> Vose: can you list the contents of /media/sda1 ?
[02:17] <gil_> thats not what i want
[02:17] <qbar> oh
[02:17] <gil_> i want to change the bootsplash....you know? the boot after grub
[02:17] <qbar> what do you want?
[02:17] <Stryk> Quick Q: How do I edit a file like apt/sources.list and get it to save?
[02:17] <Zaire> why is it that when I try to mount my cdrom it keeps asking me to specify the filesystem
[02:17] <Stryk> I just realized it wont save >.>
[02:17] <qbar> the login window?
[02:18] <pussfeller> its in > /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/displayconfig.py"
[02:18] <gil_> no
[02:18] <gil_> right after grub the Kubuntu boot screen where all devices are loadead...i wanna change that
[02:18] <qbar> oh
[02:19] <qbar> I don't know about that
[02:19] <Vose> crimsun what command do I use to do that?
[02:20] <crimsun> Vose: ls -l /media/sda1
[02:20] <qbar> anyone have problems with needing to scroll, but there are no scroll bars displayed?
[02:21] <Vose> crimsun it did show the conence
[02:22] <crimsun> Vose: so try using Konqueror to browse the tree from the root (/)
[02:22] <qbar> or not being able to save a file to a usb flash drive?
[02:22] <Vose> crimsun thank you so much its all there
[02:23] <crimsun> Vose: np
[02:23] <Zaire> why is it that when I try to mount my cdrom it keeps asking me to specify the filesystem
[02:23] <tyfon_> is it blank?
[02:23] <Zaire> nope
[02:23] <tyfon_> dmesg say anything?
[02:23] <Zaire> its my UT 2004 cd
[02:24] <Zaire> it just says mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[02:24] <Vose> crimsun one last question should I change to dapper? just by changing all the brezzy to daper in the Adapt repository?
[02:25] <tyfon_> you can spesify fs type with -t so for a cdrom it would probably be -t iso9660
[02:25] <crimsun> Vose: that's your decision.
[02:26] <crimsun> Vose: keep in mind that Breezy is supported until April 2007.
[02:26] <Zaire> bad option it said
[02:26] <qbar> anyone get the error "saving using protocol "media" is not supported" when trying to save a file to a usb thumb drive?
[02:26] <tyfon_> Zaire: sudo modprobe iso9660
[02:26] <Vose> crimsun to do it all I need to do is chage the word "breezy" to "dapper" in all the lines of text right?
[02:27] <Zaire> and cdrom is not a block device as well
[02:27] <crimsun> Vose: and update && dist-upgrade, yes, but unless you have a pressing desire/need to, you may considering waiting a bit
[02:27] <crimsun> Vose: with more cutting-edge software comes more bugs
[02:28] <Zaire> ok now the original command you gave me worked
[02:28] <Vose> crimsun ok I will wait I have been using linux just for less then a week so I need to first work on my learning curv again thank you
[02:28] <crimsun> Vose: np
[02:29] <Zaire> thanks for the help tyfon
[02:29] <qbar> anyone get the error "saving using protocol "media" is not supported" when trying to save a file to a usb thumb drive?
[02:29] <tyfon_> your welcome
[02:30] <denver1> hi
[02:31] <tyfon_> hmm dapper doesnt actually load isofs module here either automatically.. thats strange
[02:31] <Zaire> yea kinda odd lol Im using Xubuntu
[02:33] <tyfon_> oh well, one more for /etc/modules
[02:34] <oomph> does anyone run winbind?
[02:34] <oomph> i need to log into a windows domain to access shares
[02:36] <Flame> Hi
[02:36] <Flame> Im rather nub...
[02:36] <mrfishhat>   yous a n00b?
[02:36] <oomph> hi there
[02:36] <Flame> How do I edit the sources.list file?
[02:36] <Flame> Yah and proud of it ;P
[02:37] <oomph> Flame: its located in /etc/apt
[02:37] <Flame> (Gives me license to ask questions anyone with a bit of knowledge would feel guilty about)
[02:37] <Flame> Right
[02:37] <Flame> I found it
[02:37] <Flame> But I cant edit it >.>
[02:37] <oomph> what are you trying to add to it?
[02:37] <mrfishhat> sudo gedit
[02:37] <Zaire> cd into the directory and type sudo vi source.list
[02:37] <oomph> use gedit if your nub
[02:37] <oomph> :P
[02:38] <Zaire> vi works just as good
[02:38] <Flame> kk got it. One more nubby question.
[02:38] <Flame> Im having an issue updating.
[02:38] <mrfishhat> k?
[02:38] <Flame> Adept will gimme the list of updates just fine
[02:38] <Flame> But..it dies after I click Apply Changes
[02:38] <Flame> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[02:39] <Flame> Thats what it shows me.
[02:39] <Flame> I tried the sudo apt-get update command as well.
[02:39] <mrfishhat> click preview changes
[02:39] <Flame> And it gives me a buncha errors
[02:39] <Flame> k
[02:39] <Zaire> looks like it just didn't like some of the packages thats happened to me before
[02:39] <mrfishhat> use apt-get
[02:40] <Flame> Ok I tried to test with acct...the accounting one
[02:40] <Flame> And when I click preview changes
[02:40] <Flame> It shows status as not installed
[02:40] <Flame> and requested as install.
[02:40] <Flame> But it wont install it.
[02:40] <Zaire> what are you trying to install?
[02:40] <Flame> ANY of the packages.
[02:40] <Flame> None of them work >.<
[02:41] <Zaire> oook then that sinteresting lol
[02:41] <Flame> lol
[02:41] <Flame> I tried sudo apt-get update
[02:41] <Flame> And I get...
[02:41] <Zaire> Ive never had a prob with apt-get lol
[02:41] <Flame> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Sources
[02:41] <Flame>   Connection failed [IP: 85.133.25.8 80] 
[02:41] <Flame> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Connection failed [IP: 85.133.25.8 80] 
[02:41] <Flame> That times like...ten of each.
[02:42] <oomph> do you require any proxy settings or anything to get outbound?
[02:42] <Flame> Umm
[02:42] <Zaire> just as a test try sudo apt-get install lynx
[02:42] <Flame> Everything is set to auto-detect.
[02:42] <Flame> And it works for the net...and AIM, and this
[02:42] <Flame> It just doesnt for updating.
[02:42] <Flame> Lol
[02:42] <jbirdAngel> what do i want to use in place of notepad/wordpad
[02:42] <Flame> In any way/shape/form.
[02:42] <mrfishhat> gedit
[02:42] <mrfishhat> or kedit
[02:43] <mrfishhat> notepad replacements
[02:43] <jbirdAngel> mrfishhat: okay thanks, kedit doesnt come with kubuntu or i just dont see it?
[02:43] <Flame> Ok when i tried the apt-get install lynx
[02:43] <Flame> I get..
[02:43] <mrfishhat> kate comes with kubuntu
[02:43] <mrfishhat> i apt-got it
[02:43] <jbirdAngel> okay thank you
[02:44] <mrfishhat> np
[02:44] <Zaire> you get....?
[02:44] <Flame> It asked me a verify prompt
[02:44] <Zaire> yeps thats normal
[02:44] <Flame> And I hit Y as usual
[02:44] <Flame> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main lynx 2.8.5-2ubuntu1
[02:44] <Flame>   Connection failed [IP: 85.133.25.8 80] 
[02:44] <Flame> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lynx/lynx_2.8.5-2ubuntu1_i386.deb  Connection failed [IP: 85.133.25.8 80] 
[02:45] <Flame> And got owned. Again.
[02:45] <Flame> Lol
[02:45] <Zaire> damn thats messed lol
[02:45] <Flame> Is it my router/modem?
[02:45] <bimberi> !us
[02:45] <ubotu> **NB** The US Archives are having frequent issues, remove the "us" out of your  sources.list by typing >> sudo sed -i 's/us\.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list <<in a terminal (Menu applications accessories terminal)
[02:45] <Flame> O.o
[02:46] <Flame> So just have it as archive.ubuntu.com?
[02:46] <syridian> Hello Everyone....  I'm new to linux and just playing around learning...  Trying to install Firefox as my defult browser, and it doesn't seem to work...  I have Un-compressed it into it's own folder, I have created a desktop shortcut to it, but it just doesn't seem to work...  I have obviously forgotten something, any idea's?
[02:46] <oomph> did you sudo -i i assume
[02:46] <Zaire> dunno
[02:46] <Flame> Hm.
[02:46] <Flame> Well at this point, its not like its working anyways...
[02:46] <Flame> Lol
[02:46] <mrfishhat> for a firefox install its easier to in the terminal
[02:47] <mrfishhat> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[02:47] <Flame> hm
[02:47] <Flame> Does ca.archive.ubuntu.com exist?
[02:48] <Zaire> my apt-get is still funtional so thats kinda wierd lol
[02:48] <Flame> Well
[02:48] <Flame> I changed it to CA.
[02:48] <Flame> And now I get a different error.
[02:48] <Flame> So.../scratches head. Something changed for sure
[02:48] <Flame> lol
[02:48] <Zaire> lol sound like your apt-get may be messed lol
[02:48] <Flame> lol
[02:48] <syridian> Oh ok...  Thats something I have no experience with...  yet. ;)   The Install docs on mozilla just said to extract it to its own directory...
[02:48] <Flame> well
[02:48] <Flame> the CA.archive.ubuntu.com archives DO exist.
[02:49] <Flame> And when I do the apt-get with lynx.
[02:49] <Flame> I get...
[02:49] <Hawkwind> Can anyone tell me what package or how to get more themes for gkrellm2 ?  In Mandriva it's a simple isntall of gkrellm-themes but I can't seem to figure out how to do it in Kubuntu
[02:49] <Flame> Package lynx is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:49] <Flame> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:49] <Flame> is only available from another source
[02:49] <Flame> E: Package lynx has no installation candidate
[02:49] <Flame> Which..I dunno. Anyone have experience with that?
[02:49] <Flame> lol
[02:49] <Hawkwind> I've even copied over my ~/.gkrellm2 directory from my mandriva box to the Kubuntu box with no luck with the themes
[02:49] <Flame> Ive got NO idea where to go from there >.>
[02:49] <Zaire> dunno
[02:51] <denver1> i can't open konqueror as root in a terminal with sudo konqueror  any ideas?
[02:51] <Zaire> ok this is wierd I unmounted the cdrom so that I could put disc 2 in and so I re-mount it and it still thinks the disc is the first one
[02:55] <Flame> Lol
[02:55] <Flame> Well no matter what happens
[02:55] <Flame> Just remember
[02:55] <Flame> "Im not as screwed as that Flame guy..."
[02:55] <Flame> ^_^
[02:55] <jbirdAngel> how do i save a file to my fat32 partition that is mounted in a folder in /media/
[02:56] <Zaire> well I suppose but you may be able to fix it with a fresh install not to sure though
[02:56] <Flame> Eh. Tried that already.
[02:56] <Flame> And the odd part.
[02:56] <Flame> Is that I had the exact same issue with ubuntu.
[02:56] <Zaire> damn maybe just don't like your isp then
[02:56] <Flame> Except...I prefer KDE.
[02:56] <Flame> So I switched.
[02:56] <Flame> Lol
[02:56] <Flame> Yeah..well not totally
[02:56] <Flame> Because when I run it
[02:56] <Flame> as a liveCD
[02:56] <Flame> I can update
[02:56] <Flame> >.>
[02:56] <Flame> <.<
[02:56] <Flame> Which is why Im absolutely lost as to why its being annoying...
[02:57] <Zaire> maybe you should try Xubuntu lol
[02:57] <Flame> With my progressively worse luck...Xubuntu will just blow up and leave me with a flaming box...
[02:57] <jbirdAngel> it says i cant write to ito
[02:57] <denver1> i can't open konqueror as root in a consloe with the command sudo konqueror  any ideas?
[02:57] <thom_> !java
[02:57] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:57] <Zaire> thats waht I thought cause I can't use kubuntu or ubuntu so I got this and it works better for me then the others did
[02:58] <Hawkwind> denver1: Why do you want to run konqueror as root anyways ?
[02:58] <crimsun> Flame: apt-cache policy lynx
[02:58] <Flame> O.o
[02:58] <thom_> the restircted formats page is full of errors
[02:58] <Flame> Whats that...supposed to do?
[02:58] <james_xxx> ok i have no idea what happened, but suddenly the graphics on this computer have really SLOWED down. i have rebooted twice now. any ideas?
[02:58] <crimsun> Flame: paste the output here. It tells me whether your sources.list is correct.
[02:58] <denver1> to copy files from a flash device to my /var/apt/archives folder
[02:58] <Flame> lynx:
[02:58] <Flame>   Installed: (none)
[02:58] <Flame>   Candidate: (none)
[02:58] <Flame>   Version table:
[02:58] <thom_> java does not install on any method
[02:58] <Flame> Umm
[02:58] <crimsun> Flame: well that's why. You don't have main enabled.
[02:58] <Flame> I have no idea whether thats dead, alive, up, down, left, right, or charm.
[02:58] <Flame> >.>
[02:58] <Hawkwind> denver1: So open up a terminal/konsole and use the cp command
[02:59] <crimsun> Flame: grep main /etc/sources.list
[02:59] <Hawkwind> denver1: You really don't want to run konqueror as root
[02:59] <crimsun> Flame: sorry, /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:59] <denver1> i've never used that to copy b4
[02:59] <jbirdAngel> Hawkwind can you tell me how to save a file to my fat32 partition? it says i cant write to it, its mounted to media/foldername but when i try to save it there it says i cant write to it
[02:59] <Zaire> damn I try normal umount and it says device is busy :S
[03:00] <Hawkwind> jbirdAngel: I've never used fat or any windows derivitive unfortunately so I can't help ya on that one
[03:00] <Zaire> and if I use umount -l it messes up the install of UT
[03:00] <jbirdAngel> Hawkwind okay thank you
[03:00] <Flame> Ok
[03:00] <Flame> I got the /etc/apt/sources.list open
[03:00] <Flame> Now...what?
[03:01] <crimsun> Flame: you were supposed to paste me the output from that command.
[03:01] <Flame> Well, I can do that too! >.> Sec.
[03:01] <Flame> ~$ /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:01] <Flame> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[03:01] <Flame> >>
[03:02] <Hawkwind> Flame: grep main /etc/apt/sources/list
[03:02] <Hawkwind> You forgot grep, or use sudo if necessary which it shouldn't be
[03:02] <Kadran> hi Hawkwind
[03:02] <Flame> Ok
[03:02] <Flame> I get a list.
[03:02] <Hawkwind> Kadran: Hey there
[03:03] <james_xxx> if somone could give me a suggestion, i would really appreciate it. i noticed that my monitor was not going into power-saving mode a while ago... and rebooted. now i am noticing that my graphics are really slowed down. would anyone have any suggestions at all?
[03:03] <Hawkwind> Flame: Pastebin.com the output of that list
[03:03] <Kadran> Hawkwind: hope you make something kool in ubuntu like sos for mandriva
[03:03] <Flame> k sec.
[03:03] <Hawkwind> Kadran: I hope so too :)  Though I'm seriously working on it.
[03:03] <Hawkwind> Kadran: I did build my first ubuntu package today.  What a learning experience that was
[03:04] <Flame> Crim: http://pastebin.com/758800
[03:04] <Flame> Err...hawk
[03:04] <Flame> >.>
[03:04] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I was wondering is there a linux app out there that is like an alarm clock that can start your computer automaticly and play your music at a certain time?
[03:04] <Flame> Stupid colors...Im so lost
[03:04] <Zaire> does this look normal to anyone lol http://pastebin.com/758801
[03:04] <Kadran> Hawkwind: hope i could help, i alwayes liked SoS, and thank you for it :)
[03:04] <crimsun> Flame: uncomment the dapper-security ones, too, since we'll be putting packages there soon.
[03:04] <Flame> Not to me, but you dont want my opinion...I have no idea.
[03:04] <Flame> ok.
[03:05] <crimsun> Flame: then save, exit, and apt-get update
[03:05] <Hawkwind> Kadran: You're very welcome.  I'll have something soon I hope as I'm about to switch my main desktop to Kubuntu
[03:05] <Flame> SO I reopen the file using Konc, edit as root, uncomment, save, exit, apt-get update?
[03:05] <crimsun> Flame: yes
[03:05] <crimsun> [unless you want me to give you the sed command? heh] 
[03:06] <Flame> Lol!
[03:06] <Flame> No
[03:06] <Flame> Ok
[03:06] <Flame> Uncommented
[03:06] <Flame> Saved
[03:06] <Flame> Exited
[03:06] <Flame> Now I apt-get update, right?
[03:06] <crimsun> yes, then apt-get install lynx
[03:06] <Zaire> hey crimsun what do you make of this http://pastebin.com/758801
[03:06] <Flame> Errors. Again >.<
[03:06] <Flame> Same errors as before actually.
[03:07] <oomph> anyone familiar with configuring winbind
[03:07] <Flame> Want those pastebin'd?
[03:07] <crimsun> Flame: yes.
[03:07] <Kadran> Hawkwind: waiting for your news, the main reason that made me switch to kubuntu it is soo update ( just like SoS ) :)
[03:07] <Flame> kk
[03:07] <crimsun> Zaire: apt-get install libstdc++5
[03:07] <james_xxx> if somone could give me a suggestion, i would really appreciate it. i noticed that my monitor was not going into power-saving mode a while ago... and rebooted. now i am noticing that my graphics are really slowed down. would anyone have any suggestions at all? i am running kubuntu dapper w/KDE 3.5.3.
[03:08] <Zaire> ok lol thx
[03:08] <Flame> Crim:
[03:08] <Flame> http://pastebin.com/758807
[03:09] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I was wondering is there a linux app out there that is like an alarm clock that can start your computer automaticly and play your music at a certain time?
[03:09] <crimsun> Flame: your network has connectivity issues?
[03:09] <Flame> Umm
[03:09] <Zaire> then the only issue I may have to deal with is figuring out how to swap cds with it lol
[03:09] <Flame> By that you mean...
[03:09] <Flame> >.>
[03:09] <troy> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: well, the computer would have to already be running
[03:09] <BluDog_Anchorite> some bios'es have a setting to specify startup time
[03:09] <Kadran> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: there is a script for amarok
[03:09] <Flame> Crim: I can get online. And onto Kopete or whatever the messenger is. And onto this. >>
[03:10] <troy> the script will only play music at a certain time, not turn on the computer (and log on)
[03:10] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Well I really don't want to leave my PC running all night
[03:10] <Flame> Lol
[03:10] <crimsun> Flame: then change all instances of "us.archive" to just "archive", then update again
[03:10] <troy> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: it's not going to work then, sorry -
[03:10] <Flame> ok
[03:10] <Flame> Sec ^^
[03:11] <jbirdAngel> someone said i need to enable my kernel to write to the partition?
[03:11] <james_xxx> if somone could give me a suggestion, i would really appreciate it. i noticed that my monitor was not going into power-saving mode a while ago... and rebooted. now i am noticing that my graphics are really slowed down. would anyone have any suggestions at all? i am running kubuntu dapper w/KDE 3.5.3.
[03:12] <Kadran> james_xxx: what is the graphics card?
[03:12] <Flame> Crim: I removed all the instances of us. and ca.
[03:12] <Flame> And then re-ran apt-get update
[03:12] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Thanks for the help
[03:12] <Flame> And I get the same errors.
[03:12] <Flame> You can literally...check the pastebin file as before, remove all ca. and us. and its what I see.
[03:12] <Flame> >.,
[03:12] <Flame> >,<*
[03:13] <james_xxx> Kadran: an intel i810
[03:13] <james_xxx> Kadran: but everything was working fine a few hours ago
[03:14] <Kadran> james_xxx: ok check if acpid is working?
[03:14] <Hawkwind> Kadran: Well it'll be a while yet as I just installed Kubuntu on a spare box 2 days ago and I'm just learning it.  Once I get the basics down it'll become my main OS and then hopefully short after that SoS will start getting a bunch of stuff added to it
[03:14] <Flame> Anyone...ideas? :(
[03:14] <james_xxx> Kadran: how do i do that?
[03:15] <Kadran> james_xxx: 'sudo /etc/init.d/acpid restart'
[03:16] <Kadran> Hawkwind: Kool and good luck, i will see sos website to check the new news :)
[03:16] <Flame> >>
[03:17] <james_xxx> Kadran: i did that now
[03:17] <Hawkwind> Kadran: Heh, thanks :)
[03:17] <Flame> Did Crimsun go afk? ><
[03:19] <TehUni> i've just installed a fresh kubuntu then followed the guide.  i get random freezes after a few minutes when compiz is running. any ideas?
[03:19] <Hawkwind> Don't run compiz ?
[03:19] <Hawkwind> :P
[03:19] <Flame> Lol
[03:19] <Flame> ./Sigh
[03:19] <Flame> Anyone have any other ideas for me? >.<
[03:21] <Kadran> james_xxx: i had problems with the acpid before and the power so i hope restarting acpid would solve your problem
[03:21] <james_xxx> Kadran: iwell, i welcome any suggestion
[03:29] <linuxmonkey> crimsun: you still here?
[03:29] <crimsun> barely, at work. What's up?
[03:30] <linuxmonkey> who would I report a website issue to, the new CoC wont allow it to be entered on the site when signed
[03:34] <Flame> Any other ideas Crim? =/
[03:34] <Flame> I tried a few diff mirrors
[03:34] <Flame> Nothing still
[03:35] <jbirdAngel> alright im gonna go thank you all for trying to help
[03:35] <jbirdAngel> Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. - Jesus  -Luke 12:32 KJV
[03:35] <linuxmonkey> crimsun: i get  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15062 when trying to sign the 1.0.1 version, I signed 1.0 with no issues, and other people told me their getting same issue
[03:35] <crimsun> Flame: ``host archive.ubuntu.com''
[03:35] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: file a bunch on LP
[03:35] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: better yet, make sure you're not filing a duplicate first
[03:36] <regeya> I must be some sort of heretic...I'm using Firefox for my browser, Krusader for my filemanager, and for window border style, a deKorator scheme based on the Clearlooks theme. :-P
[03:36] <james_xxx> if somone could give me a suggestion, i would really appreciate it. i noticed that my monitor was not going into power-saving mode a while ago... and rebooted. now i am noticing that my graphics are really slowed down. would anyone have any suggestions at all? i am running kubuntu dapper w/KDE 3.5.3.
[03:37] <crimsun> james_xxx: which graphics drivers are you using?
[03:37] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: sorry, s/bunch/bug/
[03:37] <james_xxx> crimsun: i don't know
[03:37] <crimsun> james_xxx: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:38] <james_xxx> crimsun: where do i find that
[03:38] <crimsun> james_xxx: ... /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:38] <linuxmonkey> crimsun: what? i dont see bunch in my menu..lol
[03:39] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: no, that means file a /bug/, not file a /bunch/
[03:39] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: s// is regex syntax
[03:39] <james_xxx> crimsun: i am lost here, brb
[03:39] <ice_1963> hat's off kubuntu very good work thank you...
[03:40] <crimsun> james_xxx: paste the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log onto the Web site http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:41] <linuxmonkey> ok im officially lost crimsun. lol been a long day
[03:41] <james_xxx> crim
[03:41] <james_xxx> crimsun: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/758848
[03:42] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: what's your LP id?
[03:42] <linuxmonkey> linuxmonkey
[03:42] <crimsun> james_xxx: note line 1408: "(II) I810(0): direct rendering: Failed"
[03:44] <james_xxx> crimsun: what does that mean?
[03:44] <james_xxx> crimsun: direct rendering was not enabled to begin with as far as i knew
[03:44] <boolka> on what distro is kubuntu based on,  sarge, etch, or sid?
[03:45] <crimsun> james_xxx: it's enabled by default.
[03:45] <james_xxx> crimsun: does this mean my graphics card gave out?
[03:45] <crimsun> boolka: none. We sync with Sid at the beginning of each cycle and then periodically as it's deemed appropriate on a per-package basis.
[03:45] <crimsun> james_xxx: no, it means DRI is not enabled, which can be caused by any number of things.
[03:46] <boolka> cool
[03:46] <crimsun> james_xxx: did you attempt to install/update any video drivers from an external repo?
[03:46] <james_xxx> crimsun: it seems like i install a few gestreamer packages last night...
[03:46] <james_xxx> gstreamer*
[03:47] <zblach> drat, i killed my sound
[03:47] <james_xxx> but this was all still working this morning
[03:47] <zblach> james_xxx: same problem
[03:48] <linuxmonkey> crimsun: did u get my LP ID? I posted it right after u asked for it
[03:48] <james_xxx> zblach: you are having issues with your accelerated 3D graphics?
[03:48] <zblach> ah. thought you were talking about sound. i also installed some gstreamer packages and it killed things
[03:48] <james_xxx> crimsun: i am guessing there is no easy solution to my problem lol
[03:48] <crimsun> linuxmonkey: yes, but I'm very busy right now. It would be most appreciated if everyone would be patient.
[03:49] <earHertz> I've installed kubuntu-desktop over a ubuntu install, but my main menu still looks like gnome: http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9179/kubuntugnome7zn.jpg
[03:49] <earHertz> what do I do?
[03:49] <linuxmonkey> no problem I can wait, just wanted to make sure you got it
[03:49] <james_xxx> crimsun: you can take your time with my answer.... i am studying so it is just when you get the chance
[03:50] <lizardmane> how do you have ssh login to a server with a saved password, so that you don't have to type in the password?  Need to do this in a script.
[03:51] <netsi> I'm having a problem with multimedia keys (vol up, vol down and mute) not the same that is in the topic, but exactly like described here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2004/06/msg00144.html Any advice?
[03:52] <zblach> after installing some gstreamer packages, my sound died. I miss it. how can I get it back?
[03:53] <lizardmane> nevermind
[03:54] <[Relic] > Anyone use kate?
[03:54] <chavo> earHertz, you're still running gnome buddy
[03:55] <chavo> [Relic] , sure do
[03:55] <earHertz> chavo: so I thought. But apt-get tells me kubuntu-destop is installed.
[03:55] <earHertz> so what do I need to do?
[03:56] <chavo> earHertz, you gotta log out of gnome and then there's a menu button on the gdm screen
[03:56] <james_xxx> crimsun: just to provide additional info, games like planet penguin racer and foobilliards, as well as 3D screen savers , etc, had been working well.... however, i would always get the error with boson that direct rendering was not enabled. that is why i thought i did not have direct rendering to begin with. i really am not sure what caused this change today. i did install some packages for using OCR when using a scanner. another stran
[03:56] <james_xxx> ings, power saving mode was disabled, and i had not done that.
[03:56] <chavo> earHertz, click that and go to the sessions menu
[03:56] <chavo> and choose KDE
[03:56] <[Relic] > Is there anyway of getting rid of those menu buttons [find files/terminal/documents/filebrowser]  on the side or bottom or at least fixing them in one place so they don't start in the way they normally do?
[03:56] <earHertz> chavo: I recall doing that as part of the install, but...
[03:57] <earHertz> chavo: I logged out of gnome to a console. now what?
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> earHertz: sudo /etc/intit.d/kdm start
[03:57] <chavo> hmm is gdm running, the login screen, Or did you choose to make kdm the default?
[03:57] <chavo> what he said
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> :)
[03:58] <earHertz> I chose kdm, I THINK
[03:58] <earHertz> atlogin, I see the Kubuntu loogo screen
[03:58] <chavo> [Relic] , I don't have those buttons but I got rid of them a long time ago and can't remember exactly how :)
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> It doesn't really matter, you can get to both KDE and Gnome from gdm or kdm.
[03:58] <zblach> what would have killed my sound?
[03:58] <earHertz> so I type kdm in the console??
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> earHertz: sudo /etc/intit.d/kdm start
[03:59] <[Relic] > chavo, I did on the last install too but can't remember how since I installed the new one  :)
[03:59] <chavo> yeah I don't see it in the menus
[03:59] <chavo> hold on I'llk try running it with a fresh profile
[03:59] <earHertz> "Startimg K display manager: kdm already running"
[04:01] <[Relic] > got rid of them but how do I save that as the primary settings  :)
[04:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> earHertz: sudo /etc/intit.d/kdm stop
[04:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> then try starting it again.
[04:03] <james_xxx> i think i'll just forget about my 3D graphics issues and drink some more beer
[04:03] <chiayu> I have entered
[04:03] <chiayu> hello, everyone, I like KDE
[04:04] <earHertz> CheeseBurgerMan: I kil'd it, but no dice on restart
[04:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> earHertz: What did it say?
[04:04] <chavo> [Relic] , Like I said I can't remember how I did it. My .kde folder is a couple years old :)
[04:04] <[Relic] > :)
[04:05] <[Relic] > chavo,  got it, had to save the current settings as Default Session
[04:05] <chavo> ok
[04:05] <earHertz> CheeseBurgerMan: nothing much. apparently I'm running Kdm, but it looks like gdm
[04:05] <chavo> I thought that was it
[04:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> earHertz: Try stopping gdm.
[04:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[04:07] <earHertz> CheeseBurgerMan: did that, and then stopped kdm too
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> earHertz: Good. Did you try starting kdm again?
[04:08] <earHertz> no, I'm rebooting
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> earHertz: That'll just restart gdm
[04:08] <earHertz> oh. ;(
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Try starting kdm
[04:10] <james_xxx> if somone could give me a suggestion, i would really appreciate it. i noticed a while ago that my graphics are really slowed down, i.e. no accelerated 3D graphics, would anyone have any suggestions at all? i am running kubuntu dapper w/KDE 3.5.3.
[04:10] <crimsun> james_xxx: so, confirm ``glxinfo |grep ^direct''
[04:12] <earHertz> CheeseBurgerMan: ok, I'm at the console, I've stopped gdm and started kdm
[04:12] <james_xxx> crimsun: direct rendering: No
[04:12] <earHertz> how do I start an x-session?
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> startx
[04:13] <earHertz> thanks
[04:13] <crimsun> james_xxx: please pastebin /var/log/dmesg
[04:15] <james_xxx> crimsun: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/758927
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> enlightenment anyone??  I could use some help setting it up..
[04:16] <DaSkreech> What happens if I remove kubuntu-desktop?
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> it goes into defualt environment
[04:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> DaSkreech: Not much, kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage for KDE.
[04:17] <DaSkreech> Ok then good bye to it then
[04:17] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[04:17] <earHertz> sudo /ettpd
[04:18] <mnphenow> Anybody had any luck with Kubuntu+ATI+XGL?
[04:18] <Aidan> anybody knows some peer guardian app for linux?
[04:18] <CaBlGuY> Aidan:  Ummmm  ya don't need that for Linux silly..
[04:18] <crimsun> james_xxx: and ``dmesg |grep -i drm''?
[04:19] <earHertz> vrap!!
[04:19] <earHertz> I';m runnign kdm, I still see teh stupid gnome menu
[04:19] <Aidan> CaBiGuY: Are u secure in Linux?
[04:20] <james_xxx> crimsun: i entered that and nothing happened
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> Aidan:  more "secure" in Winblowz..  ;)
[04:20] <Aidan> CaBlGuY: xD
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> NO, OS is totally "secure"..
[04:20] <crimsun> james_xxx: and ``lsmod |grep -i ^drm''?
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> If a freak wants to hack yur machine, he's gettin in..
[04:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> earHertz: are you in kde or gnome?
[04:21] <james_xxx> crimsun: again nothing
[04:21] <Aidan> CaBlGuY: I c
[04:21] <earHertz> CheeseBurgerMan: kdm is running, gdm is not
[04:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> earHertz: You'll have to manually tell it to log into kde. When you're at the login screen, click on 'session', and then click on 'KDE'
[04:21] <earHertz> but I see gnome-like menus
[04:21] <earHertz> Oh!
[04:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> You can log into gnome. via kdm. :)
[04:22] <crimsun> james_xxx: well then. sudo modprobe drm, and log out and back in
[04:23] <james_xxx> crimsun: ok i'll be back in a few seconds... i appreciate you taking the time'
[04:23] <earHertz> CheeseBurgerMan: this would be frustrating as hell if I had to do this on a real machine
[04:25] <DaSkreech> )*^&##
[04:25] <DaSkreech> How do you get Musicbrainz with MP3?
[04:25] <crimsun> recompile it with mp3 support.
[04:25] <Aidan> Automatix
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> !automatix
[04:26] <ubotu> Automatix is a utility which helps install various codecs and applications which cannot be part of the default installation, also another utility is called EasyUbuntu, please join #automatix or #easyubuntu for more information
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Wow, that's been changed. :P
[04:26] <earHertz> CheeseBurgerMan: yes! Thanks
[04:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> earHertz: No problemo. :)
[04:28] <Aidan> Kubuntu 6.06 LTS vs Windows Vista..... tachaaaaaaann!!
[04:28] <Aidan> AND THE WINNER ISSSS...
[04:29] <james_xxx> crimsun: i'm back
[04:29] <CaBlGuY> james_xxx:  Hi back..  :p
[04:30] <james_xxx> crimsun: nothing has changed at this point, which may be what you expected anyways
[04:31] <crimsun> james_xxx: right. You either need i810 or i830, I believe the latter, loaded.
[04:32] <james_xxx> crimsun: hmmm.....
[04:32] <word> is there a way i can get a list of all the packages i have installed into a text file so i can reinstall them when i reinstall kubuntu?
[04:32] <mnphenow> Anybody had any luck with Kubuntu+ATI+XGL or any (K)Ubuntu+XGL?
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu: tell mnphenow about xgl
[04:33] <james_xxx> crimsun: i don't know how to do that (as you might have guessed). does this mean that i810 or i830 was loaded, and somehow got lost?
[04:33] <chavo> mnphenow, I'm running KDE on XGL
[04:34] <crimsun> james_xxx: lsmod |egrep '^(i810|i830)'
[04:34] <mnphenow> ah, thanks for the pointer
[04:35] <james_xxx> crimsun: i entered that and got nothing
[04:35] <crimsun> james_xxx: ok, let's try i830
[04:35] <crimsun> sudo modprobe i830
[04:35] <crimsun> then log out and back in
[04:36] <james_xxx> brb
[04:37] <word> is there a packages.list or something somewhere?
[04:38] <earHertz> Is there a way to make teh mouse scroll wheel advance by page, rathre than by lines?
[04:38] <earHertz> Is there a way to customize mouse buttons for particular apps, like microsoft intellimouse?
[04:39] <james_xxx> crimsun: back again
[04:42] <BlankB> !nvidia power saving
[04:42] <ubotu> BlankB: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:43] <crimsun> james_xxx: and glxinfo?
[04:44] <james_xxx> crimsun: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/758972
[04:45] <ShastaMaroon> I know there's an ext3 driver for windows...is there an nfs as well?  I'm not finding much on google
[04:45] <ShastaMaroon> nevermind, I was searching wrong or something.  found one.
[04:45] <crimsun> dah, it looks like you use the i915 drm
[04:45] <crimsun> s/dah/ah/
[04:45] <ShastaMaroon> nevermind, its not free.
[04:45] <crimsun> james_xxx: sudo modprobe -r i830 && sudo modprobe i915
[04:45] <chavo> ShastaMaroon, that windows ext2 driver gave me some BSODS, just a little warning
[04:46] <crimsun> james_xxx: then log out and back in
[04:46] <Vose> a quick question how do I safely remove USB devices?
[04:46] <crimsun> secondary-click and Unmount
[04:46] <ShastaMaroon> chavo I've been using this ext3 one for a while now...no problems.  It's got a graphical installer and everything, seems to be pretty mature.
[04:47] <Vose> crimsun thank you
[04:47] <crimsun> or I guess it's "Remove this device safely" or whatever
[04:47] <ShastaMaroon> chavo only thing it doesn't do is update the journal.  Not a big deal since I just mount a shared partition
[04:49] <ShastaMaroon> oh here we go.  microsoft has a free download for nfs server/client...somehow they got it to 120mb...but it works
[04:50] <m5m> does anyone have experience mirroring on apache? Specifically, I have apache running on my school's LAN and I'd like to use rsync or <insert your tool here> to mirror that WebDav accessible server to a remote external server, so that any files copied to either location would show up at the other, (I'm happy to use cron or to use something that 'watches' the directory contents) Any ideas???
[04:50] <Vose> hmm did not find that option in konq because it was not recognised as a "storage media" there is no unmout I guess it probably will not hurt if I just unplug it
[04:50] <james_xxx> crimsun: back once more
[04:50] <crimsun> james_xxx: and glxinfo |grep ^direct ?
[04:51] <james_xxx> crimsun: direct rendering: No
[04:51] <Vose> m5m I have no idea but I would like to do it between Luinux and windos 2000 do you know if it is posible?
[04:52] <m5m> Vose: yes, I'm sure it's _possible_ but I don't have that info yet; I'm not sure my question is directly on-topic as it's not kubuntu-specific
[04:54] <Vose> m5m I used beInSync between two windows pc and it worked quite well
[04:55] <Vose> it would be cool to know if there was anything out there for kubuntu or linux
[04:56] <m5m> Vose: well, I'm familiar with rsync and rdiff-backup a little bit, I'm pretty sure they're both capable of the job
[04:57] <Vose> m5m thank you I will look them up
[04:57] <crimsun> james_xxx: hmm, it should be possible. Has it worked before?
[04:57] <m5m> vose try 'man rsync' that's where I'm at currently
[04:58] <james_xxx> crimsun: it all worked until some time this afternoon
[04:59] <james_xxx> crimsun: the only thing i did this afternoon (that i recall) was download and install some OCR software, and try to connect a very old scanner to this computer
[05:00] <Vose> m5m the one I was using worked over the internet do you know if rsync only works over a lan network?
[05:01] <m5m> Vose: nope it works over ssh or tcp see the man page, it explains it all
[05:02] <Vose> m5m thank you
[05:08] <matt_> Hello, might someone be able to help me with a RAID array? It would be greatly appreciated. :) I hope I'm in the rite place, excuse me if Im not.
[05:16] <matt_> Does anyone know about installing on a RAID?
[05:21] <b0xen> Anybody know if there is a VMware Player image availible for Kubuntu/Ubuntu or Xubuntu, for dapper drake?
[05:21] <b0xen> ive googled like crazy but i cant find one
[05:25] <james_xxx> crimsun: should i just re-install kubuntu? lol
[05:26] <posthuman> hi everyone.  I am having problems getting my HP 1600 printer working.  I am using the printer module in the system settings, it seems to detect it..but I can't find the name of the printer under hewlett packard.  Infact, there's only like 4 printers under HP
[05:26] <posthuman> oh god
[05:26] <posthuman> ignore that
[05:26] <posthuman> i just figured it out
[05:26] <posthuman> :(
[05:26] <posthuman> lol
[05:26] <Qrawl> was it plugged in
[05:27] <Qrawl> oh
[05:27] <posthuman> for some reason there is a hewlett packard section, and a HP section
[05:27] <posthuman> lmao
[05:27] <posthuman> it was under HP
[05:27] <Qrawl> that seems like an honest mistake
[05:27] <lizardmane> nevermind
[05:28] <Qrawl> ok
[05:28] <posthuman> i guess i'll ask though, there is a PSC 1600 and a PSC 1600 hpijs.  What is the difference between those?
[05:32] <matt_> WOuld anyone happen to know about instlling onto a RAID array?
[05:32] <Qrawl> ijs is probably ink jet stream or something
[05:32] <posthuman> ah ok
[05:33] <posthuman> thanks :)
[05:33] <Qrawl> just guessing
[05:33] <matt_> (Are my messages not being sent?)
[05:33] <posthuman> i tested the one without that and it worked fine
[05:33] <posthuman> :)
[05:33] <DigiLife> ijs is ink jet system
[05:33] <Qrawl> oh
[05:33] <lizardmane> is there a graphical proggie to manage the crontab?  It ain't in
[05:33] <Qrawl> The Hewlett-Packard Inkjet Driver Project is a add-on to the GNU Ghostscript application. This driver is open source software based on the Hewlett Packard Appliance Printing Development Kit APDK for deskjet printers.
[05:33] <lizardmane> is there a graphical proggie to manage the crontab?  It ain't in "system settings".
[05:33] <Qrawl> kcron
[05:34] <Qrawl> its in the System menu
[05:34] <lizardmane> Qrawl: where does it save the crontab? without root access?
[05:34] <Qrawl> oh
[05:34] <lizardmane> Qrawl: i.e., kcron
[05:35] <Qrawl> I dont know.  Im using it though, to give me live webcam wallpaper
[05:35] <matt_> Would anyone happen to know about installing Dapper onto a RAID Array
[05:35] <Qrawl> updates every 10 min
[05:35] <lizardmane> Qrawl: hmmm, ok
[05:35] <Qrawl> I dont know anything about RAID arrays.  did you ask in #Ubuntu
[05:36] <Qrawl> that channel is more busy
[05:36] <Qrawl> Mark Shuttleworth needs to make Kubuntu the default distro
[05:36] <Qrawl> since it's more user friendly, and thats what he uses
[05:37] <dubmusic> I know about RAID
[05:37] <dubmusic> matt
[05:38] <matt_> Great! Mind helping a losy X windoez user?
[05:38] <matt_> lost*
[05:38] <raf> hello all
[05:39] <posthuman> how does one install firefox on kubuntu?
[05:39] <raf> I want to modify the Kubuntu CD to fit my needs, how can I achieve this?
[05:39] <frank_> posthuman: use add/remove programs or adept to install it
[05:39] <Qrawl> posthuman, are you using Dapper
[05:40] <posthuman> yes.  I tried in adept but i'm not finding it.  I'm guessing it's in a repository i do not have?
[05:40] <Qrawl> ok nm
[05:40] <frank_> posthuman: no. it's in main. and the package name is firefox
[05:40] <chavo> posthuman, did you use add/remove programs or adept?
[05:40] <earHertz> what apt-get do I need to install teh x11 include files?
[05:40] <posthuman> i tried adept
[05:41] <posthuman> let me try add/remove real quick
[05:41] <matt_> dubmusic, would you happen to know about installing onto a RAID? The install wont detect my array.
[05:41] <matt_> dubmusic, the install just sees my array as separate disks.
[05:42] <chavo> posthuman, it should be in adept
[05:42] <raf> posthuman: I have downloaded the tar.gz from firefox site, and just decompress it
[05:42] <posthuman> ohh , i guess i used the add/remove before, but it had kde selected
[05:42] <posthuman> I selected all and it found firefox
[05:42] <posthuman> :)
[05:42] <raf> posthuman: and I made a link  in muy desktop
[05:42] <chavo> yeah add/remove only shows kde stuff
[05:43] <james_xxx> if anyone can help me in this, i would appreciate it. if nothing helps, i am afraid i am going to have to re-install kubuntu... maybe this question does not belong in here, but... my accelerated 3D graphics quit working this afternoon, and i have no idea why. i am running kubuntu dapper w/KDE 3.5.3
[05:43] <posthuman> thanks everyone
[05:43] <posthuman> not use to kubuntu yet, but it seems very nice
[05:43] <james_xxx> i have loved kubuntu until today lol
[05:43] <Qrawl> did you mess with anything
[05:44] <Qrawl> or did it jsut stop working
[05:44] <raf> somebody who want to help me, I want to modify de Kubuntu CD contents to fit my needs, I need samba, and other stuf
[05:44] <raf> f
[05:44] <posthuman> kubuntu is the first distro to configure my internet correctly, oddly.  I've used suse mostly, and i've always had to change the nameservers
[05:44] <Qrawl> raf,  what do you mean
[05:44] <Qrawl> raf, you want to put things in the ISO?
[05:45] <Qrawl> you people type too slow
[05:45] <Qrawl> bye
[05:46] <raf> Qrawl: no, I want to modify the packages that are installed by default, I don't need some, and I need some others
[05:46] <word> does the dapper desktop cd include kde 3.5.3?
[05:46] <frank_> word: no kde 3.5.3 was released too late4
[05:46] <word> Aight.
[05:46] <james_xxx> is there a way to pay for hard-core support for x/k/ubuntu?
[05:47] <frank_> word: you can get kde 3.5.3 from kubuntu.org  but there may be bugs related to it
[05:47] <james_xxx> KDE 3.5.3 has a few bugs
[05:47] <frank_> james_xxx: yeah. canonical sells support
[05:47] <word> frank_: I had bugs already so i installed it but it didn't fix em so looks like i'm gonna just have to reinstall ><
[05:47] <matt_> Anyone know how to install onto a RAID array? The install just seems my array as separate disks.
[05:47] <word> I can't even get into recovery console..
[05:48] <james_xxx> word: i am going to have to probably reinstall, too
[05:48] <Terminus> matt_: software raid?
[05:48] <_Pete_> matt_: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[05:48] <word> james_xxx: :(
[05:48] <_Pete_> I think you should read that page to get more info about raid ...
[05:49] <matt_> It is already created in BIOS
[05:49] <posthuman> one last question, haha.  I see I get an error when 'fetching updates'.  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg gets an error and does not download.  This a server issue?
[05:49] <james_xxx> word: my 3D graphics just quit this afternoon, and i'm not sure why
[05:49] <Terminus> matt_: oh... fakeraids like nvidia, etc?
[05:49] <matt_> Its on an nvidia controller
[05:50] <matt_> 2 disks on a RAID0
[05:50] <word> james_xxx: I can't get into recovery console..i have to skip Enterprise Volume Manager System on startup and my panel freaks ou twhen i full screen a window with a white background.
[05:51] <james_xxx> word: i get the white background at times too
[05:52] <Terminus> matt_: that's fakeraid. you might be better off just using software raid...
[05:52] <word> james_xxx: No I mean if I have a window say this one Konversation the background of it's white ( by default ) if i full screen this my panel will freak out
[05:52] <_Pete_> matt_: http://tienstra4.flatnet.tudelft.nl/~gerte/gen2dmraid/
[05:53] <james_xxx> wow , canonical charges $250 for desktop support
[05:53] <posthuman> damn
[05:55] <word> Uh..I have kubuntu dapper and winblows on a dualboot system...could I create 3 partitions and install another dapper so i can transfer my settings and stuff because my install of kubuntu is broken...
[05:55] <matt_> pete, is it possible to use that with a boot install?
[05:55] <matt_> _Pete_**
[05:58] <matt_> Terminus, to set up a software RAID, would i just delete the fakeraid and boot the install with the disks as single disks and conifgure the software raid there?
[05:58] <chavo> word, you can do that. You should make a separate /home partition also
[05:59] <word> chavo: A seperate home partition for safe-keeping?
[05:59] <Terminus> matt_: yep. probably using the alternate cd. i haven't tried setting up a computer with dapper yet although i do have a debian box here running on software raid0.
[05:59] <chavo> word, yes that way you never have to worry about zapping your settings
[06:00] <Terminus> matt_: people i know say that if you want raid, either get a real raid controller or go with software raid and just forget about fakeraid. hehe
[06:00] <matt_> Thanks a lot, Terminus! Do you notice a speed differance? Slower? Fatser?
[06:00] <matt_> I also have a rocketraid controller,, terminus, is that considered fakeraid?
[06:00] <word> chavo: Ok and once I finish transfering everything how do I get rid of the old install?
[06:01] <kubuntu_user> Has anybody here tried the repo's k7 kernel ?
[06:01] <chavo> word, there's a couple of things you can do. You can use the old partition as your new /home or you can delete it and resize the one around it
[06:02] <chavo> kubuntu_user, I use the k7 kernels
[06:02] <word> chavo: Does that remove it from the 'grub boot loader' thingy?
[06:02] <chavo> word, no you'll have to take that out yourself
[06:03] <word> chavo: Yah, that's the part i need help with...is there a tut or something somewhere?
[06:03] <kubuntu_user> chava man, do you have a nvidia car?
[06:03] <kubuntu_user> *card
[06:03] <Terminus> matt_: it seems fast enough for me. actually, fakeraid is also software raid except that it's done through the bios and requires weird drivers so performance is around the same. according to the page supplied by _Pete_ highpoint cards are also fakeraid.
[06:03] <chavo> word, do you have the alternate or the live cd?
[06:03] <word> I have the RC version of both
[06:03] <chavo> kubuntu_user, yes a 6600GT
[06:03] <kubuntu_user> I can't get nvidia driver to work :(
[06:04] <chavo> word, If you use the alternate I believe you can tell it not to include your old partitions in grub
[06:04] <chavo> if you use the live CD it won't include them by default
[06:04] <kubuntu_user> chavo I installed the driver... It says that it was sucessfully installed.. but X can't get loaded
[06:05] <word> chavo: I still need it to include my winblows partition though until i can get cvscedega to work with BF2
[06:05] <chavo> word, yeah either one will add windows to grub
[06:06] <chavo> kubuntu_user, did you have nvidia working with the other kernel?
[06:06] <oomph> gedit
[06:06] <kubuntu_user> chavo I haven't tried... cause the 1st thing I do is to install the k7 kernel
[06:07] <word> chavo: Theres always a way to remove it later if i mess up though right?
[06:07] <Ashex> Whenever I mount my ntfs hard drive, it sets the permissions to root
[06:07] <chavo> kubuntu_user, did you install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-k7 ?
[06:07] <Ashex> And uid doesn't work
[06:07] <chavo> word, yes it's just a text file to edit
[06:08] <oomph> sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/Nessus.desktop
[06:08] <kubuntu_user> chavo.. No.. should I?
[06:08] <chavo> kubuntu_user, yes
[06:08] <oomph> i gget a cannot display null when i try to create that file
[06:08] <chavo> the nvidia kernel module is in that package
[06:08] <james_xxx> if anyone can help me in this, i would appreciate it. if nothing helps, i am afraid i am going to have to re-install kubuntu... maybe this question does not belong in here, but... my accelerated 3D graphics quit working this afternoon, and i have no idea why. i am running kubuntu dapper w/KDE 3.5.3
[06:08] <kubuntu_user> chavo but the could nvidia's get installed without these ones?
[06:09] <word> chavo: Ok thanks. :D
[06:09] <stevekl> Does anyone know why sometimes I can't use mpg123, and then later on it just suddently works?
[06:09] <chavo> kubuntu_user, yes
[06:09] <stevekl> I really wish I understood the KDE sound wrapper better
[06:10] <kubuntu_user> chavo ok, I gonna try this... thx a lot
[06:10] <chavo> word, it's /boot/grub/menu.list if you want to take a look at it. It's not that complicated and very well documented
[06:10] <posthuman> has anyone installed amarok 4.0 on kubuntu dapper? o.o.  I'm trying to, and when I do, it says (BREAK)
[06:11] <chavo> posthuman, you mean 1.4?
[06:11] <posthuman> yes, sorry
[06:12] <posthuman> 1,4
[06:12] <Ashex> what is the user id of a regular user?
[06:12] <chavo> posthuman, It works great here
[06:12] <posthuman> hmmmmm
[06:12] <chavo> Ashex, it starts at 1000 which is the default user
[06:13] <Ashex> Grr
[06:13] <Ashex> I'm trying to mount my ntfs hard drive so I can read off it
[06:13] <Ashex> but when i mount it the hard drive only has root permissions
[06:14] <Ashex> and when I do mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/HardDrive/ uid=1000  it doesn't work
[06:15] <Ashex> it mounts my external usb hard drive just fine, which is ntfs too
[06:15] <posthuman> chavo: is there any certain repo i need?  it keeps saying break, for some odd reason
[06:15] <derek_> alrighty havnt been in in awhile just wondering what the easiest way to get mp3 support in dapper w/o breaking anything
[06:15] <rohan> hi all
[06:16] <Ashex> Any ideas as to how to set it so a regular user can browse the hard drive?
[06:16] <rohan> back when i tried kubuntu beta2 and rc, when i disabled services like lvm, evms, the bootdown splash did not go right till the end - it went somewhere half way, and then it shut down
[06:16] <chavo> posthuman, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[06:16] <Ashex> oh wait....
[06:16] <KuLover> terminus are you still here? my router lost connection
[06:16] <Ashex> I created the folder HardDrive as root, so by default it's root access only, right?
[06:17] <chavo> you should be able to read it
[06:17] <KuLover> my old name was matt_, terminus the one questioning about the riad
[06:17] <posthuman> yes, i added that repo, but it still says break when i try to install it
[06:17] <posthuman> weird
[06:17] <posthuman> :o
[06:17] <chavo> Ashex, this is the line in my fstab for my ntfs partition -> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46
[06:17] <RobNyc> !ati
[06:17] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
[06:18] <chavo> and 46 is the plugdev group
[06:18] <Ashex> thanks chavo, I'll give it a shot
[06:19] <chavo> and make sure you're in the plugdev group also, just run id it'll tell you the groups youre in
[06:19] <posthuman> heres my error if anyone can help
[06:19] <posthuman> http://pastebin.com/759081
[06:19] <KuLover> terminus are you still here? my router lost connection
[06:19] <KuLover> my old name was matt_, terminus the one questioning about the riad
[06:19] <Ashex> is chmod 666 set it so regular users can access the folder?
[06:20] <Terminus> KuLover: brb. i'm cooking lunch. =D
[06:20] <KuLover> lol No problem
[06:21] <KuLover> anyone, is it neccesary to have a swap partition?
[06:21] <KuLover> I have 2gb running 444 physical ram
[06:22] <Ashex> it's generally a good idea to always have a swap partition
[06:22] <KuLover> Tanks
[06:22] <posthuman> ah i think i see the problem, it's not seeing them in the repo for some reason
[06:22] <KuLover> Thanks*
[06:22] <Ashex> what's the hard drive size?
[06:22] <Terminus> KuLover: back. i can leave the stove for 15 mins. what's up? :)
[06:23] <RobNyc> Hawkwind, ouch lol
[06:23] <Hawkwind> :P
[06:23] <Hawkwind> RobNyc: You don't use Mandriva anymore ?
[06:23] <RobNyc> whats up Hawkwind
[06:23] <RobNyc> Hawkwind, no do u
[06:23] <KuLover> Terminus I have two 160GB drives im going to set up for a RAID0 software raid, how would i set up a swap partition with that?
[06:23] <Hawkwind> RobNyc: For the moment still.  But I've got Kubuntu on a spare box, and loving it
[06:24] <RobNyc> Hawkwind, same about kubuntu just finish getting xorg-driver-fglrx installed
[06:24] <RobNyc> i couldnt get the ati's prop driver to work actually
[06:24] <KuLover> Would it bother if I took some space from one of the drives to set up the swap, terminus?
[06:25] <Terminus> KuLover: hmmm... i'm not aware of the issues concerning booting up from a raid device. i just have a 20GB drive here that i use for boot up and the raid is just mounted for data storage.
[06:25] <pussfeller> how do ikeep beagled from starting
[06:25] <KuLover> No real issues yet, just wondering how should i set up the swap partition ?
[06:27] <BlankB> KuLover: lots of people dont like them but I use swapfiles instead of swap partitions.
[06:27] <RobNyc> what app does Kubuntu has to handle .debs ? like ubuntu has gdept
[06:27] <KuLover> BlankB, How would I go about setting that up?
[06:27] <KuLover> Im at the partitioning step rite now. im talking from a separate computer, BlanB
[06:28] <Terminus> KuLover: you could try just putting the swap in the md... i'm just not sure if stuff like that will work. maybe http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-0.4x-HOWTO.html will give you more information. :)
[06:28] <pussfeller> i don't even see a front end for beagled
[06:28] <pussfeller> and it running in the background, watching me, eating all my bogomipszes
[06:28] <BlankB> KuLover: swap file is just a normal file that you set to be swapspace.
[06:28] <pussfeller> what happened to the kde version thingee
[06:28] <KuLover> Thanks Terminus
[06:29] <Terminus> KuLover: i'm not sure but i think i remember reading about issues booting up from an md.
[06:29] <pussfeller> its not starting from init.d
[06:31] <KuLover> Cant PM back, BlankB. Thanks for the info :)
[06:31] <RobNyc>  In Dapper, you can just double-click a .deb file and Gdebi will take care of it - pretty slick.
[06:31] <RobNyc> Kubuntu should have that
[06:32] <RobNyc> !gdebi
[06:32] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RobNyc
[06:32] <pussfeller> do you really want people just clicking on stuff to install it....
[06:32] <RobNyc> its not a bad idea
[06:32] <pussfeller> i think that is one things gets windows users into trouble
[06:32] <RobNyc> having options is good
[06:32] <pussfeller> yes....
[06:33] <RobNyc> thats what i mean
[06:33] <RobNyc> gdebi is really cool
[06:33] <pussfeller> it would be pretty easy to write a shell sc ript with kdialog which would pop up a window and ask for the pass and then pass it onto dpkg
[06:33] <pussfeller> i think anyways
[06:34] <RobNyc> i didnt have no probs doing it when i had ubuntu now that i installed kubuntu tryin to install this external .deb, i did it via command line sudo dpkg -i filename.deb and got errors at the end
[06:34] <KuLover> Terminus, should I use logical when using as "physical volume for RAID" to set up the software RAID?
[06:34] <RobNyc> hehe it said needs gawk lol
[06:34] <rr72> how hard is it to set up cups? i have it only localy but want it to work network wide
[06:34] <pussfeller> your system has to have gawk
[06:35] <RobNyc> i just installed it
[06:35] <RobNyc> it didnt have it
[06:35] <Terminus> KuLover: in what context? sorry, i didn't memorize all of the stuff that i did when i was setting up my box. =D
[06:35] <pussfeller> i print to my windows 2k box pretty eaily enough
[06:36] <pussfeller> easily
[06:36] <RobNyc> brb
[06:36] <RobNyc> when i have my xchat layout as tree
[06:36] <RobNyc> i dont see no colors in the channels =\
[06:36] <rr72> pussfeller~ i can't even connect to the printer from my 2k box
[06:37] <pussfeller> u have samba installed?
[06:37] <rr72> i added it in printer manager but then it can't connect to cups server sometimes
[06:37] <rr72> rather use ipp
[06:37] <rr72> im talking cups not samba printing
[06:37] <rr72> true internet printing
[06:37] <KuLover> Terminus, Im in the alternate boot install and im creating a new partition. SHould the type be Primary or logical? and then choose "use as physical volume for RAID"?
[06:37] <pussfeller> iirc windows doesnt have ipp
[06:38] <pussfeller> or maybe thats a hardware thing in the printers
[06:38] <rr72> u just add printer via internet
[06:38] <Terminus> KuLover: i just used primary. remember that a drive can only have 4 primaries so if you want more partitions than that, you're gonna have to make sure that the 4th one is logical.
[06:38] <rr72> i have gotten it to work but dif distro
[06:40] <pussfeller> well samba works well for me, maybe they added ipp to xp or something cause im pretty sure its not in 2k
[06:40] <pussfeller> i think i remember checking
[06:40] <pussfeller> whats the hardware protocol thingee called
[06:40] <rr72> i hate xp and i already said i use win 2k
[06:40] <pussfeller> cause cups uses ipp
[06:40] <pussfeller> ah sorry
[06:40] <rr72> i hate distro chans, very rarely do they help me
[06:41] <pussfeller> yes, its a pain
[06:42] <pussfeller> you might have to edit cupsd conf directly, cuase i think ubuntu turns somethings off by default
[06:42] <pussfeller> and some things are compiled in, or were, like not having the admin web interface show up except localhost
[06:43] <m5m_> I've read several forum threads reguarding OpenOffice loss on Breezy > Dapper upgrade, but I haven't found the solution.  I tried installing it from Synaptic but I've got some dependencies issues.  Can anyone guide me?
[06:44] <frank_> m5m_: try installing kubuntu-desktop a second time
[06:46] <KuLover> terminus, okay its installing.. hope this works
[06:47] <Terminus> KuLover: good luck! :)
[06:48] <m5m_> frank_: just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?  I shouldn't remove anything first?
[06:48] <ro0t> I'm using kubuntu breezy and how do I install themes ?
[06:51] <ShastaMaroon> Where is /etc/sysconfig on kubuntu?
[06:53] <Hobbsee> ro0t: in system settings, apperance tab
[06:54] <KuLover> Terminus, I asked you this before, but my connectino lagged out before I got your answer. Do you notice a speed differance with software RAID over physicla RAID?
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Is automatix evil?
[06:56] <Terminus> KuLover: if it's between software raid and fakeraid, no. real raid is a different matter and i don't have experience with that.
[06:56] <m5m_> what's the apt command to show what packages are installed in commandline?
[06:56] <KuLover> Terminus, Okay, thanks much.
[06:57] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: perhaps not so evil as it used to be
[06:57] <Terminus> KuLover: np. hope everything works fine for you. :)
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: so I can use it to get MP3 support?
[06:57] <DaSkreech> For amarok
[06:57] <DaSkreech> For musicbrainz
[06:57] <DaSkreech> for tunepimp
[06:58] <KuLover> Terminus, me to lol. Thanks again. Are you on this channel often? In case if have more problems?
[06:58] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: i would think so.  i've never used it
[06:58] <ro0t> Hobbsee, I have a theme but I can't install it, I see colors,fonts,gtk styles,icons,style,window dec but no install theme
[06:58] <Hobbsee> ro0t: there's an install theme button in the colours section
[06:59] <Terminus> KuLover: yeah... most of the time i'm just parking though. this is just a screened irssi session and sometimes i go out. :)
[06:59] <Hobbsee> ther'e'sno "install theme" bit per se - as you can use different themes for different sections
[06:59] <Qrawl> For themes , I would go to the Menu editor , and add SEttings
[06:59] <Qrawl> it adds KControl to the menu
[07:00] <Qrawl> Kcontrol shows Theme Manager
[07:00] <Qrawl> isnt KControl supported in Kubuntu?
[07:01] <Hobbsee> Qrawl: it's there, as well
[07:01] <Qrawl> My screen saver isnt working
[07:05] <KuLover> Terminus, is it possible to create more software RAIDs after everything is done and installed?
[07:06] <Hobbsee> Qrawl: which screensaver?
[07:06] <Terminus> KuLover: yep. extending raid might be a different matter. i read about one guy layering LVM and raid though...
[07:07] <Terminus> KuLover: i tried placing LVM over raid once on breezy but the installer had errors so i just gave up.
[07:08] <Qrawl> Hobbsee, they work in Preview mode
[07:08] <Hobbsee> Qrawl: repeat, which screensaver is this?
[07:08] <Qrawl> many
[07:08] <Qrawl> they dont start after 5 minutes
[07:08] <Hobbsee> mmm okay
[07:09] <Qrawl> thats what I mean by not working
[07:09] <Qrawl> theyre not starting after inactive periods
[07:09] <KuLover> Terminus, **sighh** The installation had errors. Ive decided Im just going to install to a non raid disk and use software raid for stoarage
[07:10] <Terminus> KuLover: yeah... that's what i did on my file server. 20GB for bootup and to 80GB drives on raid0 for all my data.
[07:11] <Terminus> KuLover: anyway, i'm gonna go eat lunch. catch you later. :)
[07:11] <KuLover> Terminus, alrighty, thanks for all your help. :) See ya
[07:13] <KuLover> Anyone know if I wantto use a drive to store my files on, how should I mount it? or should I set it not to mount?
[07:14] <Hobbsee> !mount
[07:14] <ubotu> mount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[07:15] <m5m_> is it a new feature of openoffice to not have oowriter and oomath and ooimpress as bin files?  I can get to them by running openoffice but in Breezy, oowriter2 was a bash-recognized command
[07:16] <zak> Heeeeey I'm trying to change my GRUB using KATE to change that Linux boots first priority, but KATE isn't letting me save it, can anyone help
[07:17] <frank_> zak:   you need root priviledge to save that file.    kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.list
[07:17] <KuLover> Say I wanted to use a drive to store mp3s on, how should I set that to mount? "/usr/local/"? "/usr"?
[07:17] <frank_> zak: kdesu starts a program with root power
[07:18] <zak> Kdesu in shell?
[07:18] <m5m_> how would you run rsync as a cron job & Safely store a password for ssh to a remote server? anyone know?
[07:18] <bimberi> KuLover: /media/whatever seems to be the standard
[07:18] <frank_> zak: yeah.  or in  K->Run command....
[07:18] <zak> kdesu: No command specified.
[07:18] <zak> kdesu: Use --help to get a list of available command line options.
[07:19] <zak> I am REALLY new to linux BTW
[07:19] <hannah> Hi, I've upgraded to dapper drake on my desktop, but cannot login...  keep getting bumped halfway thru loading, but get bumped back to login screen
[07:19] <frank_> zak: type it in one line   kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.list
[07:19] <m5m_> zak or kdesu as a prefix in a launcher on the kicker-panel
[07:19] <m5m_> zak 'kdesu kate'
[07:19] <zak> thanks you sirs
[07:20] <KuLover> bimberi, would the mount point change? say if i wanted to use a drive to store documents? sorry, just having trouble understanding
[07:21] <dumbkiwi> zak: sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:21] <bimberi> KuLover: not in that situation.  You can add an entry to /etc/fstab to have it mount automatically boot time.
[07:22] <bimberi> KuLover: it might change for things that are auto-mounted, for example attaching a USB Key
[07:22] <zak> now, another question, how do I view my NTFS formatted partition in linux?
[07:22] <Ashex> zak, mount /dev/hdb1 -t ntfs
[07:22] <bimberi> !ntfs
[07:22] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[07:23] <KuLover> bimberi, how does /etc/fstab/media/music sound?
[07:23] <lwizardl> anyone know of some inventory management software for linux ?
[07:24] <bimberi> KuLover: /media/music   - /etc/fstab is a file that lists filesystems
[07:24] <bimberi> KuLover: sorry, bad punctuation there ...
[07:25] <KuLover> bimberi, alrighty, thank ou
[07:25] <bimberi> KuLover: use "/media/music".  /etc/fstab is a file that lists filesystems
[07:26] <bimberi> KuLover: yw :)
[07:28] <mon_> Hello kubuntu users of the world
[07:31] <hannah> any takers?  I really need some help with update problems, or can anyone recommend another channel?
[07:31] <word> hannah: Update problems?
[07:32] <tuxcicles> I tried dapper, which worked great, installed fglrx, worked great until ati came out with updates and and so did dapper, now fglrx worked no more
[07:32] <hannah> yeah...  have updated to dapper on the desktop pc, but cannot log in.  it nearly loads but bumps back to login screen... ARG
[07:32] <Hobbsee> !xhangs
[07:32] <ubotu> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[07:32] <Hobbsee> hannah: ^
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Nope can't install Musicbrainz
[07:33] <hannah> ubotu:  tried that, still same problem...
[07:33] <ubotu> hannah: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:34] <hannah> thanks ubotu, will give that a go...
[07:35] <Hobbsee> hannah: type this into a virtual terminal...and copy and paste it all correctly :P
[07:35] <belkrem> i am need to install libc6-2.3.6-7but apt doesn't seem to have it
[07:36] <tuxcicles> i installed breezy and the updates to kde 3.5.2, which work very well, the only annoyance is there is no more 'display' in 'Settings'. anyone know howto get display back?
[07:36] <Hobbsee> hannah: cd && rm .Xauthority .ICEauthority .DCOP* && cd .kde && rm *-<your username here> && cd && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:37] <Hobbsee> tuxcicles: it's in system settings :)
[07:37] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure why it went missing from settings
[07:37] <hannah> Hobbsee:  thanks, will give it a whirl...
[07:37] <tuxcicles> Hobbsee: correction, it was in settings
[07:38] <tuxcicles> :)
[07:38] <Hobbsee> hannah: that *should* work :)
[07:38] <Hobbsee> i hope
[07:38] <ubuntu> k
[07:39] <mrfishhat> ok
[07:39] <qalimas> Hey guys, can anyone help me with remastering the Dapper cd?
[07:39] <mrfishhat> so i need some help with the dapper partitioner
[07:39] <belkrem> does anyone know of how i can get libc6-2.3.6-7
[07:39] <mrfishhat> can you apt-get it?
[07:40] <mrfishhat> have you checked your sources.list?
[07:40] <belkrem> unstable and i tried apt-get
[07:40] <hannah> Hobbsee:  ICEauthority has already been removed...
[07:40] <Hobbsee> hannah: okay, yep.  and the rest?
[07:41] <hannah> Hobbsee: as has DCOP
[07:41] <Hobbsee> so would Xauthority, on that basis, i guess
[07:41] <Hobbsee> okay..
[07:41] <frank_> belkrem: why do you need it?
[07:41] <Hobbsee> belkrem: packages.debian.org
[07:43] <belkrem> i need it for another package i want to install
[07:43] <belkrem> can you use the debian sources
[07:44] <frank_> belkrem: and that package is in debian but not in ubuntu?
[07:44] <Hobbsee> belkrem: which package is this?
[07:45] <belkrem> libc6-2.3.6-7
[07:45] <zak> so, I just installed the firefox package and all its dependancies but how do I find it and add it to the internet tab on the general list
[07:45] <Terminus> KuLover: AFAIK, /mnt is still the canonical mount point for fixed drives and /media is for removable drives.
[07:45] <Hobbsee> no, which package requires the libc6?
[07:45] <Hobbsee> zak: dappfinder
[07:45] <Hobbsee> er, kappfinder
[07:45] <belkrem> it's a .deb that my work wrote for debian
[07:45] <Hobbsee> belkrem: ah okay
[07:46] <zak> awsome thanks
[07:46] <belkrem> i kinda want to keep ubuntu
[07:46] <zak> didnt find it =/
[07:46] <belkrem> i think i will try and use the debian sources
[07:47] <posthuman> wow, installing the official nvidia drivers makes a huge difference o.O
[07:47] <zak> yea
[07:47] <belkrem> vesa sucks
[07:47] <posthuman> yeah
[07:47] <posthuman> everything is all clear now
[07:47] <posthuman> lol.
[07:48] <belkrem> you can actually read small words
[07:49] <posthuman> yep
[07:49] <posthuman> lol
[07:49] <belkrem> i am a moron
[07:49] <belkrem> i can just get the sources and compile it on my comp
[07:50] <posthuman> how does one see if ipv6 is disabled?
[07:50] <belkrem> then i wouldn't need libc6-2.3.6-7
[07:51] <nocloud> does anybody know how to join a chatroom on kopete?
[08:04] <mrfishhat> hi im having trouble with the installer
[08:04] <Ashex> nocloud: /join #channel
[08:08] <McNutella> how come when I install drake, it resets configurations for applications like firefox ?
[08:13] <mrfishhat> anyone want to assist with my dapper drake install?
[08:14] <mrfishhat> i cant seem to get this installer to work
[08:15] <hannah> is it possible to burn onto dvd from terminal? X is not working...
[08:15] <Hobbsee> McNutella: because you went from firefox 1.0.8 to firefox 1.5
[08:16] <Hobbsee> McNutella: mv .mozilla-firefox .mozilla
[08:16] <chakie_work> does dapper come with some version of qt4?
[08:16] <McNutella> no, I already had upgraded firefox, but it still reset it
[08:17] <Hobbsee> weird.
[08:17] <McNutella> yes it is
[08:18] <Qrawl> I recommend Konqueror
[08:18] <posthuman> I'm trying to get use to konqueror as a web browser
[08:18] <McNutella> lol
[08:19] <posthuman> it's a lot lighter than firefox
[08:19] <Qrawl> lol?
[08:19] <Qrawl> have you really tried Konqueror?
[08:19] <Qrawl> I was a longtime FF user
[08:19] <Qrawl> and a skeptic
[08:19] <posthuman> i've tried konqueror
[08:19] <posthuman> it works ok
[08:19] <posthuman> some pages have problems, but firefox lags me
[08:19] <McNutella> maybe it works ok, but its not got the extensions and pretty things :D
[08:20] <Qrawl> yes it does
[08:20] <posthuman> lol
[08:20] <posthuman> this is true
[08:20] <Qrawl> I set mine up so I can just type things in the address bar like:     gi test
[08:20] <Qrawl> and it will search Google Images
[08:20] <Qrawl> or  g blah
[08:20] <Qrawl> to search Google
[08:20] <posthuman> cool
[08:20] <Qrawl> and so on
[08:20] <Qrawl> and I can set it up for any website I want
[08:21] <raf> hello all, I want to make a Kubuntu CD with customized packages, I mean, remove some stuff I don't need, and add some other I need, so I could install a kustomized kubuntu
[08:21] <posthuman> I always forget that typing something in the address bar doesnt do a google search by default
[08:21] <posthuman> so i do a local search accidently
[08:21] <posthuman> lol.
[08:21] <raf> how can I do that?
[08:21] <Qrawl> you can probably configure it to do Google search by default
[08:22] <chavo> yeah you can set up google as default
[08:22] <posthuman> that's cool
[08:23] <posthuman> how does one do that? heh.  Is it a hard process?
[08:23] <Qrawl> do you know if theres a way to make it do the Ctrl+Enter thing for adding  .com
[08:23] <chavo> raf, here's a howto http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm
[08:24] <chavo> posthuman, go to Settings - Configure Konqueror -> Web Shortcuts
[08:25] <chavo> there's a lot of them installed that aren't activated, plus you can set google as default there
[08:25] <posthuman> ohhh
[08:25] <posthuman> awesome
[08:25] <posthuman> thanks
[08:25] <mrfishhat> am i the only one who hates the new installer?
[08:25] <tristanmike> yeah
[08:25] <tristanmike> :P
[08:26] <mrfishhat> well
[08:26] <mrfishhat> it doesnt partiton disks
[08:28] <Qrawl> oh cool
[08:29] <nocloud> anybody know how to turn of the annoying auto complete in open office writer?
[08:29] <Qrawl> instead of entering something and typing ctrl+enter to add www.com, I can just configure it so I hit Enter
[08:30] <Hobbsee> Qrawl: nice!
[08:31] <nocloud> nevermind, i figured it out
[08:32] <Qrawl> you make a new shortcut, name it what you want
[08:32] <Qrawl> URI shortcut is irrelevant
[08:32] <Qrawl> Search URI is:    http://www.\{@}.com
[08:32] <Qrawl> then you just set that as the default
[08:35] <Ashex> I have a keyboard with 3 extra keys, how would I configure X to use those keys?
[08:38] <raf> please, someone could help me on create customizing kubuntu installation
[08:38] <Qrawl> ...
[08:38] <Qrawl> [06:23]  <chavo> raf, here's a howto http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm
[08:40] <raf> Qrawl: thanks a lot
[08:41] <Qrawl> chavo pasted it
[08:43] <raf> chavo: thanks a lot
[08:43] <chavo> raf, np
[08:58] <vinboy> does kubuntu support dual-core??? e.g. load balacing etc etc?
[09:00] <crazy_penguin> good day all!
[09:02] <BluDog_Anchorite> any idea why my sudo password woould up and stop wokring
[09:03] <Quintok> it's been changed or you forgot it, nothing should change it on the fly, so to speak.
[09:08] <ckebabo> hi, all
[09:10] <ckebabo> you guys know any p2p clients? these is not amule in my source-list. 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted'
[09:11] <nixt|2dot0> ckebabo: i use limewire
[09:11] <Katje> bit torrent should be availabe to you and Limewire is really good
[09:11] <nixt|2dot0> yes...and of course the torrents...i use ktorrent 2.0
[09:12] <chavo> kmldonkey works well also
[09:13] <nixt|2dot0> haven't tried that one..i know i have had issues with aMule
[09:13] <ckebabo> limewire isn't in my source-list, too. what is your list?
[09:13] <Zaire> mmmmm k torrent lol
[09:13] <nixt|2dot0> you can download limewire
[09:13] <nixt|2dot0> you don't even install...just tar -xvfj the file..put it in your home directory somewhere....and thats it
[09:20] <kameron> i was running dapper beta, and upgrading.. then decided to just do a new install, clean things up a bit. the live/install cd is so cool!
[09:21] <kameron> and everything just works, and flows properly. and the new version of grub is now supported by my hardware. so i don't have to write up my own lilo. very, very sweet.
[09:28] <visik7> kde353 from kubuntu.org/packages hasn't valid deb-src
[09:41] <unix_infidel> hey guys, i'm looking into settig up a couple of clusters.  I'm looking for any cluster admin tricks / tips that would help me along on my way.
[09:41] <unix_infidel> any URLs for bed time reading would be really great.
[09:43] <OldNewbie> can anyone tell me how to increase the size of the fonts in Konqueror panels please?
[09:43] <dapper_user> hello
[09:47] <serenity> hi
[09:48] <serenity> how to unpack a rar-file with pw?
[09:48] <dapper_user> I have updated kde and now the Kmenu appears like this image: http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9211/snapshot9hq.png
[09:48] <dapper_user> why?
[09:50] <serenity> dapper_user: overwritten by kde
[09:51] <serenity> dapper_user: this may help http://de.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11818
[09:54] <dapper_user> serenity: I want to have the tip of arrow to left not centered
[09:56] <serenity> dapper_user: ??? repeat your question
[09:56] <dapper_user> did you see my screenshot?
[09:58] <serenity> yes
[09:59] <nocloud> if my hard drive shows up as sda instead of hda, can i use the same procedure to mount it?
[09:59] <serenity> is it a usb-hdd?
[09:59] <nocloud> no, its my system hard drive where linux and windows are both installed
[10:00] <nocloud> i'm trying to get access to my windows files through kubuntu
[10:00] <iNiku> it's probably SATA
[10:00] <iNiku> but yeah, the same mounting procedure works regardless of the device name
[10:00] <nocloud> awesome
[10:00] <nocloud> also, after i mount, do i need to reboot the system?
[10:00] <iNiku> just adjust the commands for the device name, obviously :)
[10:01] <Hobbsee> nocloud: no, just do sudo mount -a
[10:01] <Hobbsee> you shouldnt need to reboot for that
[10:01] <nocloud> awesome, thanks :)
[10:01] <dapper_user> serenity: http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/5689/snapshot78iv.png
[10:01] <iNiku> yeah, mount -a will mount everything listed in /etc/fstab with the auto option
[10:01] <dapper_user> I hope this help
[10:01] <nocloud> yea, it does, thanks
[10:02] <serenity> dapper_user: and what's the problem about this?
[10:02] <dapper_user> it is centered
[10:02] <dapper_user> I want it on left
[10:04] <serenity> the kde-start button?
[10:04] <dapper_user> yes
[10:04] <serenity> dunno, sorry
[10:05] <serenity> how to unpack a rar-file with pw?
[10:05] <dapper_user> unrar e
[10:06] <dapper_user> and insert pwd
[10:06] <dapper_user> you have to use the non-free version
[10:07] <serenity> ty
[10:07] <dapper_user> you are welcome
[10:08] <serenity> is there a way to check if the 3d-support of my card is enabled?
[10:08] <anfangs> serenity:  in console type glxgears
[10:09] <serenity> and now?
[10:11] <anfangs> serenity: did it display results in the console?
[10:11] <anfangs> serenity: FPS?
[10:11] <serenity> no, without fps
[10:11] <vinboy> same here
[10:12] <chavo> you can use glxgears -printfps
[10:12] <dapper_user> serenity: glxinfo |grep rendering
[10:13] <chavo> or try this -> glxinfo | grep direct
[10:13] <chavo> woops too slow
[10:14] <serenity> just about 2800 fps
[10:14] <edulix> suspend to ram doesn't seem to work for me, should I fill a bug report? with which information?
[10:17] <dapper_user> nobody know how to solve "my problem"?
[10:18] <threat> dapper_user, what is your prob? I wasn't paying attetion
[10:18] <dapper_user> wait threat
[10:18] <dapper_user> http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9211/snapshot9hq.png
[10:18] <dapper_user> look this image
[10:18] <threat> ok
[10:18] <dapper_user> and now this http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/5689/snapshot78iv.png
[10:21] <dapper_user> threat: ??
[10:21] <visik7> dapper_user: and is an issue ?
[10:21] <dapper_user> I dont know :P
[10:23] <dapper_user> I'm just curious to understand why now this element is centered
[10:23] <dapper_user> and if it's possible to place on left
[10:24] <edulix> dapper_user: I know why hehe
[10:24] <edulix> aseigo talked about that change on his own blog, it seems that having the arrow centered is more user friendly
[10:25] <edulix> and no, I don't think you can change it
[10:25] <dapper_user> ah okay
[10:26] <dapper_user> thanks a lot edulix
[10:27] <edulix> you're welcome =)
[10:27] <dapper_user> what's the address of his blog?
[10:29] <dapper_user> http://aseigo.blogspot.com/ ??
[10:38] <visik7> Czessi: are you here ?
[10:44] <bulltitan> in my childhood i was happy with windows and it's games,.... but now it is time to grow up and move on to big and better things,........ that's why i moved to kubuntu
[10:46] <ChunHere> you can still play w/ the old games w/ dosbox =p and newer ones w/ cvswine =p
[10:47] <bulltitan> lol
[10:48] <bulltitan> i only miss unreal tournament 2004
[10:48] <bulltitan> do you have tip about it?
[10:48] <kakalto> how can I change keymap from the console, with one command?
[10:50] <kakalto> nvvm
[10:51] <ChunHere> hmmm, look here - http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/ they got UT2003
[10:51] <bulltitan> :D
[10:52] <slow-motion> hallo
[10:52] <ChunHere> i got Half life 2 running, but it runs crappy at 6fps w/ ati drivers ><
[10:52] <bulltitan> if i can play ut 2003 at least i'll love linux for life
[10:52] <bulltitan> :O:O:O:O
[10:52] <bulltitan> half life 2??!?!?!?!
[10:52] <bulltitan> wine?!
[10:52] <ChunHere> yea wine's supposed to work better w/ an nvidia card tho
[10:53] <bulltitan> great
[10:55] <ChunHere> they have a script to get a bunch of different versions of wine(program that runs windows executables) on the linux-gamers site
[10:56] <adma> hey guys! :)
[10:56] <adma> what is the best program for making cd's and dvd's ?
[10:56] <bulltitan> wassup adma
[10:56] <ChunHere> k3b i think?
[10:57] <bulltitan> yep
[10:57] <bulltitan> k3b
[10:57] <adma> maybe...I haven't tried many yet so just wanted to hear your comment?
[10:57] <bulltitan> it has multisession support
[10:57] <pekuja> I was wondering, why is it that kubuntu-desktop depends on openoffice.org, yet koffice is also available in the main repository?
[10:57] <bulltitan> and alot of stuff
[10:58] <adma> nice :)
[10:58] <ChunHere> k3b's been good to me, works fine looks like the old nero
[10:58] <ChunHere> cuz ppl like openoffice.org more
[10:58] <adma> yeah I noticed!
[10:58] <pekuja> I mean if koffice is considered to be a part of the main distribution, why is it not possible to install koffice without openoffice (assuming you don't want to break the kubuntu-desktop package or keep both office suites)
[10:58] <adma> that is pretty neat...
[10:59] <pekuja> ChunHere, yeah, well apt-get supports optional dependencies, so you could have kubuntu-desktop depend on just one office suite
[10:59] <pekuja> ChunHere, I mean openoffice.org|koffice or something like that
[10:59] <pekuja> ChunHere, or you could have one generic "office-suite" dummy package that was provided by both koffice and openoffice.org
[11:00] <smoosh> can i set 2 chroot environment on ubuntu?
[11:00] <pekuja> ChunHere, I might argue that by the same logic Kubuntu should have Firefox by default, because that's more popular than Konqueror.
[11:01] <ChunHere> i haven't tried out koffice for a long time,  yea you're right
[11:02] <Multi> Hi
[11:02] <pekuja> I do see the point in having openoffice, because office file formats and such are not as standardised as the web.
[11:02] <pekuja> but it'd be nice to have the option to replace openoffice with koffice
[11:02] <pekuja> I guess I could try replacing openoffice with a dummy package or something
[11:10] <bulltitan> have you tryed to use free internet tv with wine?
[11:11] <ChunHere> no i haven't, mostly just games =p
[11:11] <bulltitan> the only doubt i have is this,...
[11:11] <ChunHere> by free internet tv you mean winamp tv, wmp, or some other player?
[11:12] <bulltitan> can free internet tv see the video/audio codecs using wine?
[11:12] <ChunHere> i can see youtube stuff if that's what you're talking about
[11:13] <bulltitan> so you know what free internettv is?
[11:13] <bulltitan> like a tv tuner with no tv cards
[11:13] <bulltitan> free? iiin theory
[11:13] <ChunHere> like winamp tv? plays nsv files?
[11:14] <ChunHere> shoutcast tv stuff i can play in kaffiene i think
[11:14] <bulltitan> nope ,... it's like in windows i install free internet tv and a lot of channels appears in chann windows then i click one and voila! i'm watching channel 34 of spain
[11:15] <bulltitan> it uses real player codecs and
[11:15] <bulltitan> media player codecs i think
[11:16] <bulltitan> freeit ask for it
[11:16] <probono> hi all, is there an easy and reliable way for a shellscipt to tell if the user is running ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:16] <probono> cat /etc/*-version doesn't say "kubuntu" unfortunately
[11:16] <ChunHere> oh, no never tried it, but i can play video files w/ the real player/media player codecs
[11:16] <iNiku> probono: that's probably not what the script needs to find out
[11:16] <visik7> ChunHere: dpkg -l |grep kubuntu-desktop
[11:17] <bulltitan> then it should work ,....hum
[11:17] <iNiku> probono: probably the information you need is whether the user is running gnome or kde, right?
[11:17] <probono> iNiku, both actually
[11:17] <bulltitan> probono ask my brother,.. he knows more tha i do
[11:17] <probono> "is Kubuntu && is running KDE"
[11:17] <iNiku> probono: what difference does it make whether it's ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:18] <iNiku> probono: since you can install and run gnome and kde on both
[11:18] <probono> i am programming http://klik.atekon.de/comments.php and there it would be nice to have the correct icon displayed
[11:18] <probono> helps for debugging, too
[11:18] <bulltitan> for me is like this (kubuntu = kde,....ubuntu= gnome,...xubuntu = xfce)
[11:18] <iNiku> probono: ahh, okay. hmm.
[11:18] <bulltitan> pretty basic
[11:18] <ChunHere> yes... i have kubuntu-desktop visik
[11:19] <andrisp> hello all, i have problem described here -> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=5643.0 <- maybe somebody can help me ?
[11:19] <iNiku> probono: not sure if you can really find out ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu anywhere
[11:20] <jessi> hI
[11:20] <iNiku> probono: because after all they are really the same thing, just with a different set of packages installed by default
[11:20] <ChunHere> try installing digiKam and let whatever dependencies install andrisp
[11:20] <bulltitan> wassup jessi
[11:20] <jessi> problems with glx
[11:20] <bulltitan> what kind?
[11:21] <jessi> can
[11:21] <probono> iNiku, how do i find out whether kde is running?
[11:21] <jessi> can't start glx-testing-programm
[11:21] <bulltitan> glxgears?
[11:21] <jessi> moment
[11:21] <ChunHere> type "top" in a console
[11:21] <iNiku> probono: hmm... check if the user has kded running?
[11:21] <probono> ah, ok thanks
[11:22] <jessi> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:22] <jessi> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[11:22] <iNiku> probono: that's the first thing that comes to mind
[11:22] <jessi> yes "glxgears"
[11:22] <bulltitan> what have you done to install the driver?
[11:22] <bulltitan> step by step
[11:22] <jessi> nothing... i
[11:23] <bulltitan> then you are missing fglrx drivers
[11:23] <jessi> ok... and now?
[11:23] <andrisp> thanks ChunHere, ill try
[11:23] <jessi> i'm totally newbie on linux
[11:23] <bulltitan> there's a post in ubu ntu forums but let me tell you about it
[11:23] <bulltitan> ok
[11:24] <jessi> thanks
[11:24] <bulltitan> open a console in root mode
[11:24] <bulltitan> make sure it is in root mode
[11:24] <bulltitan> otherwise use sudo before any command
[11:25] <bulltitan> there's a simple way to get this working made by escape in the forums
[11:25] <jessi> ok - how to open console as root?
[11:26] <bulltitan> if you are runing a kde distro click in the bib k
[11:26] <bulltitan> and then in system
[11:26] <jessi> k
[11:26] <bulltitan> and then in konsole
[11:26] <bulltitan> then type in console "sudo -s"
[11:27] <bulltitan> it will ask for your password
[11:27] <probono> iNiku, thanks. works great :)
[11:27] <jessi> ahhh - ok
[11:27] <jessi> now i'm in root-modus
[11:27] <bulltitan> ok
[11:27] <bulltitan> tell me what you see
[11:27] <bulltitan> ok
[11:27] <jessi> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:27] <jessi> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[11:28] <jessi> oh - sorry
[11:28] <jessi> root@jessitux:~#
[11:28] <bulltitan> great
[11:28] <bulltitan> now
[11:28] <vinboy> hi
[11:28] <bulltitan> type this,......
[11:28] <vinboy> is there any PDF editor?
[11:28] <bulltitan> apt-get update
[11:29] <bulltitan> just as it looks
[11:29] <jessi> ok... done
[11:29] <bulltitan> ok
[11:30] <bulltitan> now this sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:30] <bulltitan> and then this sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[11:30] <bulltitan> and say yes to the option
[11:32] <jessi> ok - done
[11:32] <ChunHere> i dunno about pdf editor, but you can always open the file, copy and paste into openoffice, and then save(export) as a pdf
[11:32] <_thumper_> vinboy: you can use open office
[11:32] <bulltitan> ok by the way what king of video card you have?
[11:32] <bulltitan> ati or nvidia?
[11:32] <jessi> nvidia
[11:32] <bulltitan> ok
[11:32] <cfraz89> vinboy: you can find a pdf import plugin for kword
[11:33] <vinboy> ok
[11:33] <vinboy> kool
[11:33] <bulltitan> no you need to reboot kubuntu to reinstall the restricted first and the fglrx driver first
[11:34] <bulltitan> to do that you'll need to type this after reboot,....
[11:34] <probono> vinboy, http://flpsed.klik.atekon.de/
[11:34] <bulltitan> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[11:34] <bulltitan> and then
[11:35] <bulltitan> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:35] <jessi> ok...
[11:36] <jessi> thats all?
[11:36] <bulltitan> after that make sure you edit the xorg.conf to look like this in device part "fglrg"
[11:36] <ChunHere> wait, fglrx is only for ati cards
[11:36] <vinboy> thx probono
[11:36] <bulltitan> i mean fglrx sorry
[11:36] <bulltitan> then reboot
[11:36] <bulltitan> hum
[11:36] <bulltitan> take over chun
[11:37] <bulltitan> i think i'm missing something here
[11:38] <ChunHere> no wait i don't have nvidia ><,  i think there's a different way lemme look up forum stuff really quick just a sec
[11:38] <bulltitan> chunhere help jessi if you can i'm more use to help guys with ati cards sorry
[11:38] <jessi> ok - thanks for help bulltitan
[11:39] <bulltitan> help is on the way just wait a few minutes
[11:39] <bulltitan> we won't leave you alone
[11:39] <jessi> k
[11:39] <jessi> thx
[11:39] <bulltitan> :)
[11:40] <bulltitan> ubuntu's way
[11:41] <bulltitan> as far as i have read nvidia cards are easyer to configure but there's always an exeption as with ati cards
[11:41] <ChunHere> jus a sec jessi
[11:42] <bulltitan> just like in windows but this time you have ppl helping for free :p
[11:42] <jessi> k,...
[11:44] <ChunHere> alrite, first up open "package manager",  press the big K->system->adept
[11:44] <jessi> and that's one of many other things that brings me to kubuntu
[11:44] <jessi> ok mom
[11:44] <jessi> ok done
[11:44] <ChunHere> hahaha, no i'm a guy
[11:44] <ChunHere> college guy
[11:44] <ChunHere> alrite type in nvidia in the search
[11:45] <jessi> ok...
[11:45] <andrisp> i installed digiKam, opened it, clicked on My Tags, but an error shows up - Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'digikamtags'. What does it mean ? what io-slave means ?
[11:45] <jessi> done
[11:45] <ChunHere> is there nvidia-glx there?
[11:45] <jessi> yes as "not installed"
[11:46] <ChunHere> yea all you do is click on it,
[11:46] <ChunHere> and then click on request instal
[11:46] <jessi> ok done
[11:46] <bulltitan> ho yep and then be ready for the kubuntu world
[11:46] <ChunHere> then click on the apply changes checkmark button
[11:47] <ChunHere> it'll download and install it, and you should be set
[11:47] <jessi> done and installed
[11:47] <ChunHere> restart and you should have nvidia-glx
[11:47] <andrisp> sorry, but somebody can tell me what io-slave means ?
[11:47] <jessi> ok... see you later
[11:47] <bulltitan> hope with good news
[11:47] <ChunHere> alrite lates
[11:48] <bulltitan> i'll stay here just for that moment
[11:48] <pd273> Hi all, where did the site http://packages.ubuntu.com go
[11:48] <bulltitan> chun man,... thanks for him and thanks for me
[11:48] <pd273> it is taking me to the ubuntu main site
[11:49] <ChunHere> nana no prob bulltitan
[11:49] <bulltitan> now i know how to guide guys with nvidia cards
[11:50] <ChunHere> hey andrisp, try a search on kio in adept
[11:50] <ChunHere> and install the kio plugins
[11:52] <jessi> hi chan
[11:52] <bulltitan> so jessi?
[11:52] <ChunHere> well whenever something's missing i always type it in adept first, if it's there and not installed i just install it
[11:52] <ChunHere> hi jessi
[11:52] <jessi> now i have the same probs again
[11:52] <ChunHere> ><
[11:53] <bulltitan> :(
[11:53] <jessi> jessi@jessitux:~$ glxgears
[11:53] <jessi> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:53] <jessi> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[11:53] <jessi> jessi@jessitux:~$
[11:53] <ChunHere> do you know what model of nvidia card you got?
[11:53] <jessi> nvidia fx 5200?
[11:54] <bulltitan> yeah i know that one
[11:54] <bulltitan> i overckloked it to the tops :D
[11:55] <ChunHere> ok go back to the package manager and type nvidia again
[11:55] <jessi> ok moment
[11:56] <jessi> ok done
[11:56] <andrisp> ChunHere: i have kio installed, btw, Adept is KDE specific update tool or ubuntu ? and why there are 3 update/package managers ?
[11:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> anybody can think a way to have the skype transfer data printed on the desktop?
[11:57] <Healot> hello kubuntuans
[11:57] <bulltitan> ho man! i have a package to oc the nvidia card in linux! ;D
[11:57] <ChunHere> ok for the nvidia- stuff what's not installed?
[11:57] <bulltitan> you'll be cool jessi trust me
[11:58] <jessi> hehe
[11:58] <jessi> ok
[11:58] <jessi> nvclock
[11:58] <jessi> nvclock-gtk
[11:58] <jessi> nvclock-qt
[11:58] <jessi> nvidia-glx-dev
[11:58] <jessi> nvidia-glx-legacy
[11:58] <jessi> nvidia-glx-legacy-dev
[11:59] <jessi> nvidia-kernel-source
[11:59] <jessi> nvidia-legacy-kernel-source
[11:59] <jessi> nvidia-settings
[11:59] <jessi> nvidia-xconfig
[11:59] <jessi> nvtv
[11:59] <jessi> ... done
[12:00] <ChunHere> do you got nvidia-kernel-common?
[12:00] <wojtek> witam wszystkich
[12:00] <jessi> yes - it's installed
[12:01] <ChunHere> try installing the settings and xconfig one
[12:01] <bulltitan> i dunno if this have something to do but chun remember that i made hi do a "sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)"
[12:01] <wojtek> poland ??
[12:02] <ChunHere> also, search for linux-source and then install that, that's the kernel source usu good to have that around,
[12:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> anybody can think a way to have the skype transfer data printed on the desktop?
[12:02] <ChunHere> andrisp what are you talking about 3 package managers?
[12:03] <jessi> ok - i'm downloading
[12:04] <andrisp> ChunHere: Adept, Synaptic and one Ubuntu-specific update manager (In Menu it's called Package Manager (Add application))
[12:04] <ChunHere> i dunno why all distributions decide not to install the kernel-source in a base install, aye would solve soo many headaches w/ people trying to install drivers
[12:05] <probono> beacuse it takes space and compiling shouldn't be necessary for end users
[12:05] <bulltitan> jessi i tell you,.. even if i have to leave my putter on all day and poke chun with a stick to make your 5200 to work i will,.... me in bed off course in an alcoholic coma  joke chun
[12:05] <probono> personally i hate having to compile stuff
[12:05] <probono> always takes a while and mostly produces cryptic errors
[12:06] <probono> you need a cs phd to understand them ;)
[12:06] <ChunHere> andrisp, all of those are just GUI's to the command line tool apt-get, KDE users use adept, GNOME and others use synaptic
[12:07] <ChunHere> haha night bulltitan
[12:07] <Chousuke> compiling stuff is annoying. Especially if you wrote the code yourself and it fails to compile and you have to fix it.
[12:07] <bulltitan> :P
[12:09] <ChunHere> chousuke, yea but if you need to install a driver and you can't find it in the repository, u usually hafta resort to going for the source way to install it
[12:09] <ChunHere> and you need it for the ATI driver package on the ati site
[12:09] <Chousuke> ChunHere: well, yeah.
[12:09] <Chousuke> though ati drivers are in the repostory.
[12:09] <Chousuke> +i
[12:10] <Chousuke> they're in "restricted"
[12:11] <probono> hopefully someone writes a "stable" kernel interface soon
[12:11] <bulltitan> you know why this happens because ati and nvidia are like "yes sir" type they all respond well to microdump
[12:11] <probono> so that kernel modules don't need to change when the kernel changes
[12:11] <ChunHere> yea they are but not the newest versions of the drivers, not just video drivers but also wireless and other stuff that people need
[12:12] <ChunHere> how's things going jessi?
[12:15] <Davidosky> how can i add a new user on kubuntu from console? (i can't use KDE, it's broken :S )
[12:15] <ChunHere> -->    sudo adduser David
[12:15] <bulltitan> gee 7:13 here,...gotta get some sleep,.. you're just right there jessi just don't give up on kubuntu,.. have some cofee,... smokes,...etc but in the end you will love kubuntu for what it worth
[12:15] <Davidosky> thx
[12:15] <bulltitan> tata chun tc
[12:15] <johan_> mp3 amorok is not working :|
[12:16] <bulltitan> johan follow wiki's johan! it works believe me!
[12:16] <Bazzi> ubotu: tell johan_ about restrictedformats
[12:16] <ChunHere> it's 3:15am here in california
[12:16] <bulltitan> just get xine's libs
[12:16] <johan_> I know built :p but i am searching for that :P
[12:16] <bulltitan> i'm out now
[12:17] <bulltitan> see u soon chun tata
[12:17] <ChunHere> see ya bulltitan
[12:17] <ChunHere> anyone here got ragnarok online working in wine?
[12:18] <Terminus> ChunHere: let me guess, game guard problems? =D
[12:18] <Healot> not with WINE, Cedega could handle that better
[12:18] <ChunHere> yea terminus
[12:18] <Terminus> ChunHere: AFAIK, it's never been done...
[12:19] <ChunHere> i used cvs wine and cedega source, still couldn't get it
[12:19] <ChunHere> doh ><
[12:19] <ChunHere> i got it to complain only about 1 file ndis.sys
[12:19] <Terminus> ChunHere: i'm just guessing, but maybe it's a process spawning problem...
[12:21] <Davidosky> i'm in trouble with kubuntu... when i start it, in the login window, i set user and password but KDE doens't want starts
[12:21] <ChunHere> sigh*
[12:22] <ChunHere> what's it say? something lock?
[12:22] <Davidosky> kde, alway come back to the login window
[12:23] <Davidosky> no error here
[12:23] <Davidosky> i have installed kubuntu dapper 6.06 from "desktop" cd.... (live+install)
[12:24] <andrisp> is there an alternative in linux for winscp ?
[12:24] <Healot> PPP script?
[12:25] <ChunHere> ...... it's probably a software lock somewhere, i would just reinstall again if you just installed from the livecd(don't do anything while you're installing)
[12:25] <ChunHere> winscp is the best
[12:26] <ChunHere> there's alternatives but they usu cost money and are crappy
[12:26] <andrisp> ChunHere: I found in adept putty tools and secpanel
[12:26] <andrisp> i'll try those
[12:26] <ChunHere> oooh in linux ok
[12:26] <ChunHere> no you don't need to
[12:27] <ChunHere> open a konqueror window
[12:27] <RandomDude15> hey
[12:27] <RandomDude15> I need help
[12:27] <RandomDude15> upgrading
[12:27] <RandomDude15> to kubuntu
[12:27] <RandomDude15> 6.06
[12:27] <RandomDude15> from kubuntu 5.10
[12:27] <joch> andrisp: open konqueror and write fish://user@server
[12:27] <jpatrick> !upgrade
[12:27] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[12:27] <ChunHere> and type in sftp://user@whereever.edu
[12:27] <ChunHere> the konqueror window can be used like winscp
[12:28] <andrisp> fish or sftp ?
[12:28] <ChunHere> try either and see what works for you ;)
[12:29] <andrisp> ok i'll try, but this secpanel has ankward interface
[12:29] <joch> andrisp: i think fish uses scp and sftp uses the sftp subsystem
[12:29] <jessi> hi chun
[12:30] <ChunHere> hey jessi
[12:31] <ChunHere> how's everything so far?
[12:31] <jessi> jap
[12:31] <jessi> i downloaded all the pakets
[12:32] <jessi> and now?
[12:32] <andrisp> is it possible to get konqueror show me side by side server directory and localhost directory ? like in MC and WinSCP ?
[12:33] <ChunHere> open up a konsole, K->system->konsole
[12:33] <jessi> ok
[12:33] <jessi> done
[12:33] <Robert_S> Hi folks.  A quick question.  I've just installed the latest kubuntu and can't find some of my favorites.  Which repo can you find mc (midnight commander) and knode on.  I thought knode would be easy to find because its an "official" KDe package.
[12:34] <ChunHere> hmm ok, type in nvidia and press tab, there should be one called xconfig i think
[12:35] <ChunHere> yea andrisp - click on view in the toolbar
[12:36] <ChunHere> mc should be there, if not, enable some of the repositories in the package manager
[12:36] <ChunHere> that was to robert*
[12:36] <jessi> when i type in "nvidia" and press return then "bash: nvidia: command not found"
[12:36] <ChunHere> don't press return, just nvidia and press tab
[12:37] <jessi> and then?
[12:37] <ChunHere> it'll try to autocomplete but there's probably a few other commands it lists out?
[12:38] <jessi> no... nothing,...
[12:38] <jessi> "nvidia-"
[12:38] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[12:39] <rysiek|pl> anybody knows what are the three ints in: dcop ksmserver ksmserver logout $Int1 $Int2 $Int3? can't seem to find it anywhere in the docs
[12:39] <rysiek|pl> nor through google
[12:39] <jessi> Chun: Ok...
[12:39] <andrisp> ChunHere: can't find this option
[12:39] <ChunHere> =/ alrite lemme check up something again,
[12:40] <jessi> @chun:
[12:40] <jessi> jessi@jessitux:~$ sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:40] <jessi> Password:
[12:40] <jessi> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[12:40] <jessi> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[12:40] <jessi> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[12:40] <jessi> jessi@jessitux:~$
[12:40] <slow-motion> bbl
[12:40] <ChunHere> ooh ok good so it autoconfigured it for you
[12:41] <ChunHere> ok so now you can restart and check if everything works but
[12:41] <jessi> yes?
[12:42] <ChunHere> if that X file that it made isn't good then you're gonna hafta copy that backup file over it through the konsole
[12:43] <jessi> with cp (backup) (original)?
[12:43] <ChunHere> yes
[12:43] <jessi> ok... see you
[12:43] <ChunHere> ok see ya jessi
[12:43] <andrisp> is it possible to disable antialiasing for specific program ?
[12:44] <ChunHere> andrisp when you open up a konqueror window, there should be "location edit view bookmarks ..." in the toolbar click on view and then you can select different view modes
[12:45] <andrisp> yes, i know this, but there is no two panel option
[12:46] <mike__> Hi gang!  Can any one give me some help/advice on fixing a minor wireless problem (bcm43xx related)?
[12:46] <ChunHere> right below "view mode", there's "split view"
[12:49] <andrisp> i don't have it.. maybe because i have KDE/Konqueror 3.4.3
[12:49] <ChunHere> ahhhhh i hate wireless problems >< the first distro that got my wireless working outta the box is kubuntu 6.06, before that i just used a long wire =p i think you hafta use ndiswrapper or something
[12:50] <Healot> not if you got the supported wifi card :-
[12:50] <ChunHere> oooh, old ubuntu andrisp, yep
[12:51] <jessi> Hi chung
[12:51] <jessi> chun
[12:51] <andrisp> i tried to upgrade to new 6.06 version, but there was some kind of error
[12:51] <ChunHere> hey jessi
[12:51] <mike__> I had my wifi card working under Breezy with ndiswrapper and it sort of works under dapper with bcm43xx, but every now and then it fails.
[12:52] <jessi> yeah!
[12:52] <ChunHere> hahaha, works good jessi??
[12:52] <jessi> now i can use "glxgears"
[12:52] <mike__> For some reason, the system occasionally initializes the wireless card as eth2 (normally it is eth1).
[12:52] <jessi> but
[12:53] <jessi> is it normal that the ... (hm,... i don
[12:53] <jessi> t know the word) are so damn slowly
[12:53] <jessi> ?
[12:53] <ChunHere> oh gears? that's fine
[12:53] <jessi> jap
[12:53] <jessi> ok
[12:54] <ChunHere> i can't speak jap, i'm abc(american born taiwanese-chinese  =p)
[12:54] <andrisp> sorry for asking again - is it possible to disable anti-aliasing in Quanta ?
[12:54] <jessi> hehe... thats ok chun
[12:55] <jessi> many thx 4 your help
[12:55] <ChunHere> let glxgears run for a minute, i think it should give you a framerate it'll say "some number" fps
[12:55] <jessi> ok i try it
[12:56] <Robert_S> I've just been using adept and its crashed about 4 times.  Can anybody tell me why?
[12:56] <apokryphos> Robert_S: start it from the terminal....... any useful output?
[12:56] <Nightrose> hi iv got a problem installing a programm called tvbrowser - it needs java5-jre and it cant be installed
[12:56] <ChunHere> or just use the package manager to download some 3d game, like x-moto or penguin racer, if it runs fine then you are ok *thumbs up* =)
[12:56] <andrisp> jessi, i just tried glxgears too, and find out that i have the same problem that you had .. what was the solution ? =)
[12:57] <jessi> oh... andrisp... try to ask chun
[12:57] <Robert_S> How do I paste the output into Konversation?  I'm new to this
[12:57] <ChunHere> depends on your video card andrisp do you have ati or nvidia?
[12:57] <andrisp> nvidia
[12:58] <ChunHere> i think you've been in this room long enough, you should be able to see my messages if you scroll up ><
[12:58] <andrisp> ok, i'll try
[12:58] <Eviscares> hello
[12:58] <ChunHere> shift + ins  is paste in konsole and konversation
[01:00] <Healot> ChunHere: familiar with LVM?
[01:00] <Eviscares> could someone give a total linux newbie (namely me :)) some tipps for installing kubuntu?
[01:00] <ChunHere> oh haha, no i'm not a sys admin healot
[01:00] <weedar> Is there any way to disable tapping=click behaviour for a laptop-mousepad?
[01:00] <Chousuke> Eviscares: Put the CD in the drive, boot it, and install
[01:00] <Chousuke> Eviscares: Then after installation, see EasyUbuntu
[01:00] <Eviscares> I meant more along the lines of how to setup my HDD's
[01:01] <jessi> hehe... chun: the game penguin racer is very slowly
[01:01] <Chousuke> Eviscares: well, it depends.
[01:01] <Bladesonfire> Does anyone know if the PPC version of the server install CD does not include the easy LAMP install option?
[01:01] <ChunHere> can you run xmoto jessi?
[01:01] <Eviscares> Chousuke: depends upon what?
[01:01] <Chousuke> Eviscares: how many HDs do you have? how much free space?
[01:01] <jessi> chun - i'll try it
[01:02] <bajker_>  /msg nickserv link bajker suprbajk
[01:02] <Chousuke> and do they work, or are you having trouble with them or something?
[01:02] <bajker_> wtf
[01:02] <Robert_S> Has anybody answered  my question about pasting in the konsole output?  Unfortunately I go the "blue gears of death" (KDE crash handler) in konversation
[01:02] <ChunHere> hey chousuke is your name based on chouji + sasuke from naruto? =D
[01:02] <Chousuke> ChunHere: no.
[01:02] <Healot> naruto geeks...
[01:02] <Healot> cool
[01:02] <Eviscares> Chousuke: HDs:3 Partitions:4 free space: 1,8,3 and 3 gb no problems with anything
[01:03] <Chousuke> hmm
[01:03] <Chousuke> You should install ubuntu on the 8GB partition
[01:03] <afm\colossus> how can i increase kde's/konqueror's maximal number of concurrent HTTP-connections?
[01:03] <ChunHere> haha, haven't watched it on cartoon network tho i hate dubs
[01:04] <afm\colossus> or how am I able to enable HTTP1.1 for KDE/Konqu?
[01:04] <Eviscares> Chousuke:Ok, anyo other very important things?
[01:04] <Chousuke> Or perhaps install Ubuntu on the 3GB partition and have your /home (user directories) on the 8GB partition.
[01:04] <Healot> afm\colossus: konq does support HTTP 1.1
[01:05] <Eviscares> Chousuke: I thought about clearing up the 1gb partition, as it is already my win partition with my other proggys, and then putting it there for the sake of order
[01:05] <afm\colossus> Healot: yeah, i hope so, but is it enabled by default?
[01:05] <jessi> chun: all the games (xmoto, penguin racer) are very slow and don't run floatly
[01:05] <Chousuke> Eviscares: it would be best if you could unify that space.
[01:05] <Healot> yes... afm\colossus
[01:06] <Eviscares> Chousuke: you mean make an extra partition for kubuntu?
[01:06] <Healot> there is no need to turn on/off like IE does...
[01:06] <Chousuke> Eviscares: I think the default install needs at least 2 GB of space.
[01:06] <afm\colossus> Healot: konqueror often fails fetching multiple images from a single http-source
[01:06] <afm\colossus> any ideas why?
[01:06] <Chousuke> Eviscares: You can install a more customised setup too, though.
[01:06] <ChunHere> i would do / on 8gb, swap on 1gb, /home on 3gb always can add new hdd or flash drive or something for user files
[01:06] <Chousuke> Eviscares: but it requires some knowledge of how APT works and all.
[01:07] <Eviscares> chousuke:ok
[01:07] <Healot> afm\colossus: higher cache value...
[01:07] <afm\colossus> what should cache have to do with http-connection?
[01:07] <Eviscares> chousuke:well, i can get used to that. but I have to set up the sys at first
[01:07] <ChunHere> type in glxinfo in konsole jessi
[01:08] <ChunHere> and scroll up see if it has "direct rendering: Yes"
[01:08] <Chousuke> Eviscares: Well, I suggest you get at least 2 GB of space for kubuntu
[01:08] <Eviscares> Chousuke: ok ^^
[01:08] <afm\colossus> Healot: strange, it's actually working
[01:09] <afm\colossus> i fail to understand the "Logic" behind, though ;)
[01:09] <Healot> which part, afm\colossus?
[01:09] <Healot> the cache part?
[01:09] <afm\colossus> yes
[01:10] <Healot> oh, neither do I, but the logic imho, the more space more download ?
[01:10] <Healot> as smaller cache size erases the previously download files
[01:11] <jessi> @chun
[01:11] <jessi> name of display: :0.0
[01:11] <jessi> display: :0  screen: 0
[01:11] <jessi> direct rendering: No
[01:11] <h3sp4wn> Has anyone experience of building fglrx-kernel-source against 2.6.16
[01:11] <ChunHere> ><
[01:12] <Healot> h3sp4wn: in breezy the build always fail
[01:12] <Eviscares> Chousuke: thanks ^^
[01:12] <Healot> but after tweaking the config file, it works, but the module crashes a lot
[01:13] <h3sp4wn> Healot: I can build it manually but only once  (but it has a tweak that makes the screen clearer with dvi)
[01:13] <jessi> @chun: how to activate "direct rendering"?
[01:13] <slow-motion> re
[01:13] <Healot> the build works, but crashes a lot, so i am sticking to the stock...
[01:14] <h3sp4wn> Healot: Do you ever get lockups on shutdown
[01:14] <Healot> yeah/// that's what I mean, and sometime lockup when playing OpenGL games
[01:15] <ChunHere> type this in konsole jessi  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Driver
[01:15] <ChunHere> tell me the last 2 driver lines
[01:15] <h3sp4wn> Healot: I don't get that with installing it manually (without the packages) but there are some modifications in it I would like to apply
[01:16] <jessi> root@jessitux:~# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Driver
[01:16] <jessi>         Driver          "kbd"
[01:16] <jessi>         Driver          "mouse"
[01:16] <jessi>   Driver        "wacom"
[01:16] <jessi>   Driver        "wacom"
[01:16] <jessi>   Driver        "wacom"
[01:16] <jessi>         Driver          "nv"
[01:16] <iNiku> jessi: useless use of cat :)
[01:16] <ChunHere> ah it served it's purpose =p
[01:17] <jessi> hm?
[01:17] <Healot> cat is cute :)
[01:18] <jessi> and now?
[01:19] <ChunHere> don't worry bout niku =p ok, type in sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:19] <jessi> ok
[01:19] <jessi> done :)
[01:20] <ChunHere> it should open up a text editor w/ that file
[01:20] <ChunHere> go to the bottom, see if there's a Section "DRI"
[01:20] <jessi> ok
[01:21] <jessi> Section "DRI"
[01:21] <jessi> 	Mode	0666
[01:21] <jessi> EndSection
[01:21] <ChunHere> ok good, now at the top, there's Section "Module"
[01:21] <jessi> ok
[01:21] <ChunHere> there should be a bunch of Load "something" lines
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"i2c"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"bitmap"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"ddc"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"dri"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"extmod"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"freetype"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"glx"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"int10"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"type1"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"vbe"
[01:22] <jessi> EndSection
[01:22] <ChunHere> there should be a 	Load  "dri"  if not
[01:22] <ChunHere> oh ok it's there
[01:22] <iNiku> jessi: yeah, don't worry, it's just a kind of internet/unix tradition :)  the same could have been achieved with "grep driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf", hence "useless use of cat". not at all serious. :)
[01:23] <jessi> :) ok niku
[01:24] <ChunHere> ack i think your nvidia driver wasn't installed w/ dri ><
[01:25] <iNiku> ChunHere: um, you're not supposed to use dri with the nvidia driver
[01:25] <saxofun> hi
[01:25] <iNiku> ChunHere: at least not on XFree, I'm pretty sure the same applies to X.org
[01:25] <ChunHere> whoops not that dri niku, i meant direct rendering
[01:26] <iNiku> ChunHere: yes, the dri module
[01:26] <iNiku> ChunHere: you're not supposed to use it with the nvidia driver
[01:26] <omega--> It's a shame that guidance doesn't work in KDE.
[01:26] <omega--> All this text-file editing should really be unnecessarry.
[01:27] <ChunHere> oh ok, didn't kno
[01:28] <iNiku> nvidia has pretty good documentation on how to set up the driver, in the README that comes with the driver
[01:28] <ChunHere> you know which modules are needed Niku?
[01:29] <iNiku> ChunHere: I think only glx for nvidia's direct rendering stuff
[01:29] <Bladesonfire> Twinview and tv-out was really easy to setup using that README
[01:29] <iNiku> ChunHere: can't remember, but it's all in the README
[01:30] <iNiku> http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/index.html
[01:31] <iNiku> actually http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/chapter-03-section-02.html
[01:34] <ChunHere> jessi? u still here?
[01:34] <jessi> yes
[01:34] <jessi> ok - so i have to use the manual?
[01:35] <jessi> looks simple
[01:35] <ChunHere> you should download the nvidia driver package
[01:35] <ChunHere> and follow the instructions and run that
[01:35] <jessi> hm? i don't did it until now?
[01:37] <ChunHere> for some reason, the nvidia-xconfig didn't want to choose the right driver
[01:37] <jessi> oh - ok
[01:38] <ChunHere> and setup your card dfferently, so you need to run the package,
[01:40] <ChunHere> you already got kernel source which is what you need for this part,
[01:40] <jessi> ok - i try it
[01:40] <jessi> see you later
[01:40] <ChunHere> see you jessi, i'm going to sleep 4am here -_-
[01:41] <ChunHere> copy your xorg.conf file in case of any problems
[01:41] <andrisp> if i want to restart X, is it enough to just logout and log in ?
[01:42] <Bladesonfire> No.... logout and ctrl+alt+delete
[01:42] <andrisp> ok
[01:43] <Robert_S> Try ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:43] <Bladesonfire> Oops
[01:43] <Bladesonfire> Eh, left already =/
[01:44] <ChunHere> goodnight everyone
[01:44] <Bladesonfire> Goodnight
[01:44] <thoreauputic> hmm the script works at least...
[01:49] <LeeJunFan> ug, slashdot sure renders like crap in konqueror now.
[01:50] <Bazzi> the irony :)
[01:50] <Healot> Slashdot is for Internet Explorer only?
[01:50] <jessi> how can i stop the x-server and working only on konsole?
[01:50] <Healot> fire up a virtual terminal
[01:51] <ndazza> firefox perhaps?
[01:51] <Nightrose> hi its me once again - im trying to install java-5-jre but it isnt working - this is the output i get: http://cl1p.net/nightrose
[01:51] <Healot> "invoke-rc.d kdm stop"
[01:51] <Nightrose> can someone tell me why it fails?
[01:51] <Bladesonfire> Nightrose: it needs to install the dependencies
[01:52] <Bladesonfire> Oh, nvm
[01:52] <Nightrose> i see but its not working :-(
[01:53] <andrisp> I did sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, but was unable to start xwindows after that.. there is error -> http://paste.php.lv/3870 .. any help ?
[01:54] <ndazza> the dapper drake desktop cd hangs at bootup for me, no error message. Stops working after the message 'mounting root partitions'
[01:54] <defrysk> andrisp, in dapper do "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[01:54] <Bladesonfire> Nightrose: all I can see is it's not showing you the license for you to agree
[01:54] <user-land> hello, is there a quickstart guide to kubuntu ?
[01:55] <Bladesonfire> Nightrose: "1 not fully installed or removed." doesn't seem to be good, either
[01:55] <Bladesonfire> But sorry, don't know how to fix the problems
[01:55] <Healot> user-land: yeah, KDE Menu -> Help
[01:55] <Bladesonfire> Do you already have another Java installed?
[01:56] <Nightrose> jea maybe but that shouldnt be a problem right? - and as it seems it already hangs when unpacking
[01:56] <andrisp> defrysk: i don't have dapper and nvidia-xconfig
[01:56] <user-land> is kubuntu going to give me access to all the partitions i have on the disks in my computer ?
[01:56] <defrysk> andred, and older nvidia-card perjhaps ?
[01:56] <defrysk> andrisp, that is
[01:56] <Bladesonfire> You downloaded the .bin from Java and installed that, and now you're trying to install it from the repos?
[01:57] <andrisp> defrysk: i have nvidia geforce 2 (mx400?)
[01:57] <ndazza> Nightrose: there's a variable of some kind for apt-get that determines whether certain questions get asked or whether defaults are chosen. I don't remember what it's called, perhaps the man page will shed some light
[01:57] <morn> !
[01:57] <ubotu> morn: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:57] <Nightrose> ndazza thx ill have a look
[01:57] <Bazzi> andrisp: you need the legacy drivers then
[01:58] <Healot> to convert that binary file from Sun dl the ""make-jpkg" package first
[01:58] <defrysk> andred, try nvidia-glx-legacy in stead of nvidia-glx
[01:58] <defrysk> andrisp,
[01:58] <defrysk> i mean
[01:58] <Healot> btw only the JDK can be packaged into its equivalent Debian package
[01:58] <drayen> Haveing a problem with my new Ferrari (AMD64, ATI x700, 1280x800), 1st the screen was black on boot into X, fixed that with adding Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS, CRT" - but now i can only get 640x480 resolution - any ideas?
[02:00] <ctothej> drayen: are you using dapper? post your xorg.conf on pastebin
[02:01] <drayen> ctothej, yes... doing that now
[02:03] <marian> hi ...
[02:03] <jessi> ok...
[02:03] <defrysk> hi...
[02:03] <drayen> http://pastebin.com/759515
[02:04] <jessi> i hate the configuration for my graphic card for linux
[02:04] <Healot> jessi: I am sure of that
[02:04] <marian> mein amarok spielt keine streams ... ;( engine is xine ... kann mir jemand helfen?
[02:04] <defrysk> !de
[02:04] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[02:05] <Healot> marian: amarok doesn;t play any audio stream?
[02:05] <marian> thx
[02:05] <Healot> did you installed "libxine-extracodecs"?
[02:05] <marian> yes .. but i don't know
[02:05] <marian> mom
[02:06] <drayen> ctothej, http://pastebin.com/759515  - its got the screen setup as expected... but like i said, im limited to 640x480 - any ideas?
[02:07] <marian> no i havn't
[02:07] <Nightrose> hmm that didnt help
[02:07] <ctothej> drayen: taking a look now
[02:07] <drayen> ctothej, thank you!
[02:07] <Nightrose> im still getting the same output http://cl1p.net/nightrose
[02:07] <Healot> marian: try to install "libxine-extracodecs", btw are you trying to play MPEG1/2/3 audio/video?
[02:08] <Healot> or those AVI (OpenAVI) bs?
[02:08] <ctothej> drayen, are you using the open source drivers?
[02:08] <marian> no not yet...
[02:08] <marian> it's fresh installd .. ;)
[02:08] <Healot> oh... that's why...
[02:08] <marian> no alsa
[02:09] <Healot> no sound server configured too..?
[02:09] <drayen> ctothej, erm, its a clean install from the Dapper CD
[02:10] <drayen> ctothej, all i've done is added one line to the xorg.conf, to fix the black screen problem.
[02:10] <marian> had updatet with sources from universe and main districtet
[02:10] <ctothej> drayen: oh interesting. i think its using the wrong driver.
[02:11] <drayen> ctothej, hummm okay... any ideas which one im going to need?
[02:11] <defrysk> drayen, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/31009
[02:11] <Healot> marian: do you see the kmix icon on the notification areA?
[02:11] <defrysk> is that your bug ?
[02:12] <marian> yeah .. and any sys sounds playing well
[02:12] <ctothej> drayen, i think defrysk is rught
[02:12] <ctothej> right*
[02:13] <drayen> defrysk, yeah, i think it is :)
[02:13] <ctothej> anyone, whats the apt-get command to install fglrx drivers?
[02:13] <defrysk> drayen, if it is confirm the bug in launchpad
[02:13] <drayen> ctothej, :) yeah i just tried "apt-get install fglrx" and it didnt work
[02:14] <drayen> defrysk, on it :)
[02:14] <defrysk> :)
[02:14] <ctothej> its like fglrx-drivers or something like that
[02:14] <robin> hi, anyone here running XGL with kubuntu, and if so, what are you experiece with it ?
[02:15] <robin> I like to try it out, but first want to know how stable it is :)
[02:15] <defrysk> robin its not very stable and a resource hog
[02:15] <drayen> Some one else worked out the same work around... i was stuck with VGA due to haveing CRT as in the MonitorLayout section :)
[02:15] <drayen> god i love open source
[02:15] <robin> defrysk: Not stable, so lot's of crashes  ?
[02:15] <ctothej> drayen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:15] <defrysk> robin, freezing and locking
[02:16] <ctothej> drayen: or better yet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:16] <h3sp4wn> I have only found that it locks on reboot
[02:16] <defrysk> and ram usage peeking
[02:16] <h3sp4wn>  /shutdown
[02:16] <defrysk> I would wait til edgy comes out
[02:17] <defrysk> should be stable by then
[02:17] <robin> and when is that ?
[02:17] <defrysk> 6.10
[02:17] <robin> edgy is new ubuntu ?
[02:17] <robin> kk
[02:17] <defrysk> yes
[02:17] <defrysk> 2006.10
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> I hope they us aiglx (or whatever its called instead of xgl)
[02:17] <robin> But if I try it out, is it easy to disable it ?
[02:17] <ctothej> defrysk: do they change major version numbers each year?
[02:18] <ctothej> and minor every 6 months?
[02:18] <Bazzi> ctothej: the version is <year>.<month>
[02:18] <robin> ctothej: yes, year.month
[02:18] <defrysk> next year we have 07.04 and 07.10
[02:18] <ctothej> ahh right
[02:18] <_rince_> re
[02:18] <defrysk> every half year a +1
[02:19] <ctothej> drayen: how we doing?
[02:21] <drayen> ctothej, just made myslef a launchpad id... looks like the bug was already logged and confirmed https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/22985
[02:21] <drayen> ctothej, i made a change to my xorg.conf, which seems to have sorted it :)
[02:22] <ctothej> drayen: ok good. if not, go with the link i posted and install fglrx open source drivers.
[02:24] <drayen> ctothej, i will probably do that in a bit, i want to see if i can get the 3d desktop thing working :) so i will expect i need the drivers for that :)
[02:24] <ctothej> nice
[02:25] <drayen> ctothej, seem to remeber a digg.com story about how to do it :)
[02:26] <_ivan> hi all I hava linux ubuntu but how I create 85 HZ I HAVE 60 hz :(
[02:26] <_ivan> ?
[02:27] <robin> _ivan: use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, to set the right settings for your monitor
[02:28] <robin> _ivan: you probably have to run it in console mode (ctrl+alt+f1)
[02:29] <_ivan> usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure
[02:29] <_ivan> ?
[02:30] <defrysk> _ivan, xserver-xorg
[02:30] <_ivan> aha whate `1 min
[02:31] <defrysk> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:32] <_ivan> select the desired x server driver
[02:33] <tmak> hi, does anyone have had problems with kubuntu 6.06 & HP nx6125 (or similar) laptop? I got installation going but it's terribly slow
[02:33] <_ivan> Enter the amount of memory (in kB) to be used by your video card.
[02:33] <_ivan> what is this ?
[02:33] <_ivan> my card is 128 ?
[02:34] <tmak> only opening the konsole takes like 1 minute at least
[02:35] <user-land> how do i make room for 15 'most used applications' in the KDE start menu ?
[02:36] <Evixo> I'm wondering where I can configure which login screen I want to use.. I installed ubuntu and intalled kubuntu later and made sure that when I log in I get KDE but I want to disable the gnome login interface without removing gnome ... does anybody know a tutorial or something? I couldn't find one
[02:37] <Bazzi> remove gdm, that should do the trick
[02:37] <Evixo> but is there a way without removing gnome ... @ bazzi
[02:37] <CaBlGuY> I can "officially" hang out in here now. I installed KDE last night.   :p
[02:37] <drayen> story on digg.com was for nvidia - anyone know of of a tut to get the 3d desktop thing running on an ATI  card?
[02:38] <Evixo> I should be a small config somewhere I suppose
[02:38] <Bazzi> that'll just remove the login
[02:38] <Bazzi> not gnome itself
[02:38] <Evixo> ok so I can remove that the apt-get way? with gdm as the packet name?
[02:39] <Bazzi> yes try it
[02:39] <defrysk> Evixo, just apt-get remove gdm
[02:40] <CaBlGuY> Sorry drayen, dunno about ATI, I was happen to get my Nvidia card workin right..  ;)
[02:40] <drayen> CaBlGuY, :)
[02:40] <CaBlGuY> you could try....
[02:40] <CaBlGuY> !ATI
[02:40] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
[02:40] <CaBlGuY> there
[02:42] <CaBlGuY> now that I've glot KDE installed, i'm kinda likin it....  although im not really into all the "eye candy". it don't look to bad..
[02:46] <Evixo> at bazzi... thnx for the help mate... it worked
[02:46] <GNAM> are there dapper updates?
[02:46] <defrysk> GNAM, there is a newer kde for dapper available
[02:47] <CaBlGuY> defrysk: I just downloaded 3.5 last night. Looks real nice..  nice n clean..
[02:47] <defrysk> GNAM, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[02:48] <defrysk> CaBlGuY, sure does , runs snappy
[02:48] <CaBlGuY> yea, pretty quick..
[02:48] <CaBlGuY> looks and feels better then it did in breezey..
[02:48] <defrysk> CaBlGuY, never used kde in breezy
[02:50] <CaBlGuY> defrysk:  ahhh, well, it was ok, but this is "newer" and more "breathable"..  :p
[02:51] <defrysk> tried it in breezy but didnt like it then
[02:51] <defrysk> now its much better
[02:53] <robin> the kde updates are just as stable as the default kde version that ships with dapper ?
[02:53] <defrysk> robin, for sure
[02:53] <robin> defrysk: ok, will try it them.
[02:54] <gil> how do i burn two bootable ISO filles to one DVD and choose which one to boot to at start up
[02:56] <GNAM> why not kde packages in standard mirrors?
[02:57] <defrysk> GNAM, a stable vrsion is frozen so no new packages , only security updates and stuff
[03:04] <CaBlGuY> robin:, yes the updates are as stable as what comes with the distro...   might be even moreso..  eather way, it looks nice..
[03:05] <robin> CaBlGuY: ok, I have installed them, I will see :) thx
[03:06] <CaBlGuY> robin:, NP..  ;)
[03:07] <defrysk> and a tip for ktorrent users there is a newer version of ktorrent on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188530
[03:08] <defrysk> it uses less resources and works better
[03:08] <robin> it seems to work
[03:08] <robin> only lost the border in the login screen :)
[03:09] <robin> something I should not do on a laptop :)
[03:10] <v3ctor> why not?
[03:10] <defrysk> robin, true
[03:10] <defrysk> v3ctor, u serious ?
[03:10] <robin> obivious reasons :)
[03:10] <v3ctor> passwords are usless if the laptop is stolen
[03:10] <Hobbsee> defrysk: please remind me of that in about a week.
[03:11] <Hobbsee> or maybe a few days
[03:11] <defrysk> Hobbsee, of what ?
[03:11] <Hobbsee> defrysk: that there's a new version of ktorrent out
[03:11] <robin> v3ctor: sure everybody knows how to hack in to your system ;)
[03:11] <defrysk> Hobbsee, bookmark it ;)
[03:11] <babysnakes> hi, does anybody have good experience with keyboard layouts switching in kde?
[03:11] <CaBlGuY> Howdy Hobbsee, o/   I'm officaly in K environment now...   ya happy.. :p
[03:12] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: yay!
[03:12] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[03:12] <imbrandon> heay Hobbsee
[03:12] <Hobbsee> hey imbrandon
[03:12] <defrysk> Hobbsee, you can dowload it from the post i geve
[03:12] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: what ya doing with ktorrent ?
[03:13] <defrysk> Hobbsee, http://rapidshare.de/files/22170949/ktorrent_2.0beta1_i386.deb.html
[03:13] <Hobbsee> defrysk: if i got it from there, i'd be shot.
[03:13] <imbrandon> hehe
[03:13] <defrysk> Hobbsee, you developer ?
[03:14] <imbrandon> defrysk: yea
[03:14] <Hobbsee> defrysk: yeah
[03:14] <defrysk> oops
[03:14] <defrysk> lol
[03:14] <Hobbsee> hmmm...2.0 beta 1...
[03:14] <defrysk> Hobbsee, its stable according to the ktorrent website
[03:15] <defrysk> Hobbsee, and work better for sure
[03:15] <Hobbsee> defrysk: where does it say 2.0beta1 is stable?
[03:15] <defrysk> Hobbsee, a sec
[03:15] <defrysk> Hobbsee, http://ktorrent.org/
[03:16] <Hobbsee> defrysk: which page?  that's where i am?
[03:16] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: bottom of the main page
[03:16] <defrysk> The latest stable version of ktorrent is 2.0beta1 and it's released under the GNU GPL License.
[03:16] <defrysk> its at the end of the page
[03:16] <Hobbsee> oh.  of course.  silly hobbsee :P
[03:16] <Hobbsee> thanks
[03:16] <defrysk> ;p
[03:17] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: edgy or -updates ?
[03:17] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: edgy
[03:17] <imbrandon> cool
[03:17] <defrysk> backport I presume
[03:17] <chrome> hello folks
[03:17] <defrysk> ?
[03:17] <chrome> someone use kmobiletools?
[03:17] <Hobbsee> possibly.  guess it could be backported.  imbrandon got a dapper chroot?
[03:17] <Hobbsee> no, wait
[03:17] <Hobbsee> even i have that :P
[03:17] <robin> will edy run kde 4 ?
[03:17] <imbrandon> Hobbsee:  yea
[03:17] <robin> edgy*
[03:18] <Hobbsee> robin: no, not really
[03:18] <defrysk> robin, even dapper wil run it probably
[03:18] <imbrandon> robin: edgy will be out befgore kde4 stable
[03:18] <robin> hmm ok.
[03:18] <Hobbsee> now, how does one run an *edgy* pbuilder?
[03:18] <defrysk> it wil be packaged for edgy I'm sure
[03:18] <Hobbsee> guess it's the same as a dapper one...
[03:18] <Hobbsee> defrysk: yeah, cos i'm doing it :P
[03:18] <defrysk> and also for dapper i'm sure
[03:18] <defrysk> :)
[03:18] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: not sure its nessessary yet as the repos arent open, i've been building with just edgy in the changelogs
[03:18] <Hobbsee> true
[03:19] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: what did you build?
[03:19] <Hobbsee> from scratch, or upgrade?
[03:19] <pussfeller> can someone tell me where beagled could be starting from
[03:19] <imbrandon> apt-mirror so far on revu ( and ktorrent personaly a few weeks ago )
[03:19] <pussfeller> was some sort of autostart dir added in dapper or something
[03:19] <pussfeller> its not in kde autostart
[03:20] <imbrandon> pussfeller: probbly /etc/init.d/* as its a deamon
[03:20] <Hobbsee> building...
[03:20] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: apt-mirror was from scratch
[03:20] <Hobbsee> pussfeller: the autostart folder in /usr/share?
[03:20] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: icky.  fun :P
[03:20] <imbrandon> hehe
[03:21] <defrysk> Hobbsee, compare the cpu usage of the old version to the new version , huge difference
[03:21] <defrysk> and also ram for that matter
[03:21] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: Is apt-mirror not just a single perl script ?
[03:22] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn: and a conf file but yes, its not in the repos so i buit a deb for edgy
[03:24] <defrysk> it rocks :)
[03:24] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: lol!
[03:24] <oppilas> piv
[03:25] <Gentix> When Iiinstall kdm nvidia is nolonger being used and it screws up my fonts. how do I fix this?
[03:25] <drayen> hummm... so i installed Xgl and compwiz or what ever its called... its booted fine, but i dont have any top bars at all (ie the bit above file etc) any ideas?
[03:25] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: What about using steganography to put your backup into a real copy of Girls Gone Wild (suppose it requires you to obtain it in the first place)
[03:26] <drayen> and i cant re-size anything
[03:26] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn: true, i was realy just goffin but thats not a half bad idea
[03:26] <defrysk> Gentix, glxinfo |grep direct
[03:26] <flapane> hi
[03:26] <flapane> any troubles with ati 3d? i have http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189470
[03:27] <flapane> please i don't know what to do
[03:27] <imbrandon> drayen: means your wm dident start only xgl
[03:27] <flapane> the fglrx modules compiles but it won't work
[03:27] <drayen> imbrandon, ahh okay..
[03:27] <imbrandon> drayen: try #ubuntu-xgl ;)
[03:27] <serenity> hi
[03:27] <Gentix> defrysk it says that glx is missing on the current display
[03:27] <drayen> is there no #kubuntu-xgl :P:P
[03:27] <imbrandon> drayen: its the same
[03:28] <defrysk> Gentix, and that happend with installing kdm ?
[03:28] <Gentix> defrysk: that figures... but how do i? fix that?
[03:28] <Gentix> defrysk: yes
[03:28] <defrysk> Gentix, nvidia ?
[03:28] <ubuntu> hi
[03:28] <Gentix> defrysk: yes
[03:28] <defrysk> Gentix, dapper?
[03:28] <flapane> noone?
[03:28] <serenity> i have just installed azureus over adept, all went correct, it created an entry in the k-menu but i tries to start and did not continue
[03:28] <Gentix> defrysk: yeps :)
[03:28] <crazy_penguin> has anyone used the shfs module in the kernel?
[03:29] <defrysk> Gentix, "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[03:29] <daniel> which file system should i use, if i want access from both linux and windows?
[03:29] <Gentix> defrysk: that should do it???
[03:29] <serenity> daniel: fat32
[03:30] <defrysk> Gentix,  yes if you have everything installed that should do it
[03:30] <daniel> oh, and if i also want to be able to have files larger than 4 GiB
[03:30] <Gentix> defrysk: k, thanx I'll give it a shot
[03:30] <defrysk> Gentix, good luck :)
[03:30] <Bazzi> daniel: use a network storage and samba/nfs ;)
[03:32] <daniel> that would require a file server, wouldn't it?
[03:32] <Bazzi> yes, or similar
[03:32] <daniel> in that case, i need something else :\
[03:33] <Gentix> defrysk: didn't do it
[03:34] <defrysk> Gentix, you upgraded from breezy to dapper ?
[03:34] <Gentix> defrysk: yep
[03:34] <defrysk> you did a dis-upgrade
[03:34] <Gentix> defrysk: dist-upgrade
[03:34] <Bazzi> daniel: vmware?
[03:34] <drayen> imbrandon, they are real chatty in ubuntu-xgl
[03:35] <defrysk> Gentix, a sec
[03:35] <daniel> ehm, what does that do?
[03:35] <Gentix> defrysk: k
[03:35] <Bazzi> virtualize windows/linux
[03:36] <defrysk> Gentix, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:36] <wezlo> I'm having trouble with openoffice.org2 on dapper - the program opens, but none of the modules are installed (writer...etc)
[03:37] <wezlo> anyone got a clue how to fix (the packages are installed)
[03:37] <Gentix> defrysk: already done so
[03:37] <Bazzi> wezlo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure openoffice.org
[03:37] <andrisp> i configured my konqueror to by default open php files with quanta plus, but everytime i click on some php file, konqueror opens new intance of quanta plus. how to solve this ?
[03:37] <defrysk> Gentix, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:38] <wezlo> bazzi, thanks, I'll try that
[03:38] <Gentix> defrysk: that'l  instal alot of stuff I don't want :(
[03:38] <Hobbsee> defrysk: did you get it to compile?  i'm getting it ftbfs here...
[03:38] <defrysk> Gentix, and also stuf you need , so please do that
[03:39] <defrysk> Hobbsee, I did not compile it I just downloaded it
[03:39] <Hobbsee> mmm okay
[03:39] <defrysk> Gentix, aslo sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-minimum
[03:39] <Gentix> defrysk: okay then
[03:40] <defrysk> and after that again a dist-upgrade
[03:40] <defrysk> Hobbsee, sure you are a developer ? ;p
[03:40] <Gentix> defrysk: why a dist-upgrade???
[03:40] <defrysk> Gentix, to make sure you have it all
[03:40] <Hobbsee> defrysk: not particularly, why do you ask?
[03:41] <defrysk> Gentix, eliminating possible missing things
[03:41] <Gentix> k
[03:41] <defrysk> Gentix, did you use automatix by the way ?
[03:42] <defrysk> Hobbsee, jk
[03:42] <wezlo> Bazzi, that didn't work
[03:42] <Bazzi> mh :(
[03:42] <Gentix> defrysk: automatix?? whats that?
[03:42] <defrysk> good answer :)
[03:42] <wezlo> Bazzi, from the commandline I only get ooffice and ootemplate (no writer, etc...)
[03:42] <defrysk> Gentix, never use it
[03:43] <Gentix> defrysk: okay :)
[03:44] <klerfayt> kicker has white stripe on top that doesn't look nice with darker dark panel background
[03:45] <andrisp> how can I configure Quanta plus to auto-indent when I press Enter ?
[03:46] <Blizzz> "GRUB loading, please wait... Error 21" <-- whats wrong??
[03:47] <defrysk> Blizzz, it means one of your disks is not being recognized in the bios
[03:47] <defrysk> or a device
[03:47] <Blizzz> thanks
[03:48] <wezlo> Bazzi, I figured it out - didn't clean my old install up....
[03:51] <Davidosky> rieccomi
[03:51] <Davidosky> sta volta con il pc fisso :P
[03:51] <defrysk> !it
[03:51] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:51] <Davidosky> rieccomi! sta volta con il pc fisso :D
[03:51] <afm\colossus> is there a way to embed vim into kwrite in kubuntu dapper?
[03:52] <Davidosky> fool non riesce a prendere un ip il pc, ora cerco di capire xk
[03:52] <Gentix> defrysk: it did change the fonts. But still no GLX
[03:54] <defrysk> Gentix, try nvidia-xconfig again please
[03:54] <defrysk> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:54] <defrysk> Gentix, got output ?
[03:54] <Gentix> defrysk: k
[03:54] <serenity> i killed adept and now i stars, but sysy that another app is using it. What do do?
[03:55] <serenity> i killed adept and now i starts, but says that another app is using it. What do do?
[03:57] <serenity> ...
[03:58] <serenity> is there a flag set by adept, that is was started? Where to set this flag to default?
[03:59] <Gentix> defrysk: noes... no luck...
[03:59] <defrysk> Gentix, glxinfo |grep direct
[03:59] <Gentix> s/noes/nopes
[04:00] <Gentix> defrysk: samething
[04:00] <Gentix> defrysk: no glx on display 0.0
[04:00] <defrysk> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:00] <defrysk> end make sure its set to nvidia
[04:00] <serenity> adapt says: ...antoher app is using the database...
[04:00] <defrysk> serenity, synaptic = up or something ?
[04:01] <defrysk> or are you updating ?
[04:01] <serenity> no, killed adapt by shell
[04:01] <serenity> maybe a flag is set
[04:01] <serenity> that it's running
[04:01] <defrysk> serenity, open top and check whats running
[04:01] <v3ctor> ps -ef|grep adept
[04:02] <serenity> adept_notifier and  grep adapt
[04:02] <v3ctor> sudo pkill adept_notifier
[04:03] <v3ctor> then try to start it again
[04:03] <serenity> what have i did?
[04:03] <defrysk> serenity, you have did well :)
[04:03] <serenity> hehe...
[04:03] <defrysk> ;p
[04:06] <mluser-work> Does anyone know if its possible to specify in the kubuntu installer where to install the bootloader?
[04:07] <serenity> adept does not start anyway
[04:08] <Hobbsee> mluser-work: i believe it is - just tell it not to install on the MBR
[04:09] <xwolf-> i think in the installer you either select it to be installed or not
[04:09] <andrisp> how can i disable anti-aliasing in quanta plus ?
[04:11] <mluser-work> Hobbsee: I'm talking about the installer on the live cd.. it never prompted me for a place to install the mbr, it just installed it by default the MBA of the first disk which is not where I wanted it
[04:11] <Hobbsee> weird!  it used to ask you for the alternative cd...
[04:12] <Gentix> defrysk: doesn't do a darn thing
[04:14] <Landerro> hello
[04:15] <Landerro> I have a problem with Kubuntu 6.06, can somebody help me?
[04:15] <Flame> Hi. Anyone not too busy to help me with updating issues?
[04:16] <flapane> anyone alive with dapper,ati and working 3d?
[04:16] <flapane> it seems you guyz disappeared..switched to nvidia?
[04:16] <Flame> Or like me...cheap and with an integrated gfx setup >.>
[04:17] <flapane> :(
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello all, general question about Kubuntu.  HOw do I get SU access in things like file manager or Konq
[04:17] <kosh> alt-f2 kdesu konqueror
[04:18] <bsm> hi, are there already some kopete 0.12 packages?
[04:18] <flapane> no
[04:18] <Flame> Im having connection errors when trying to update...any ideas?
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Kosh, thanks alot..
[04:18] <Hobbsee> bsm: there are some being tested
[04:18] <Flame> These are with both apt-get update and Adept. Same errors >.<
[04:18] <bsm> Hobbsee: where? Last one is 0.12 beta 1
[04:19] <kosh> alt-f2 allows you to run any command and kdesu allows you to run stuff as another user so you could use alt-f2 kdesu kate if you wanted to or anything else for that matter
[04:19] <Hobbsee> bsm: freeflying made some, but they're wrongly versioned (or were, not sure about now)
[04:20] <Landerro> I can't start Kubuntu any more after I configured my second screen. How can I solve this problem??
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> kdesu tells it to run in su mode then asks for pass right?
[04:21] <kosh> yeah it asks for your password since it will use sudo
[04:21] <Flame> Hm. I can no longer connect to Kopete--> AIM...randomly...
[04:21] <Gentix> defrysk: any more ideas??
[04:21] <bsm> Landerro: copy your backup right in place
[04:21] <defrysk> Gentix, I honestly do not know whats wrong
[04:21] <kosh> however kdesu can also take arguments and run stuff as other users
[04:21] <Gentix> defrysk: :(
[04:22] <defrysk> Gentix, if you have everything upgraded properly nvidia should work fine
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> I will research the command, thens for the jump start
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[04:22] <Landerro> bsm, but if I try again then it's just the same problem. Can't I use my second screen in Kubuntu?
[04:23] <Gentix> defrysk: thanx anyway
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Kosh can I also run a dd command there?
[04:23] <Gentix> defrysk: I'll see what I can do (remove kdm)
[04:23] <bsm> Landerro: 'course you can, just wanted to suggest something so you can go on working again
[04:23] <flapane> anyone with ati?
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry, switched to nvidia
[04:23] <Landerro> If I do it with the live cd it's the same
[04:24] <defrysk> Gentix, I would report it in llaunchpad if it runs fine in gdm
[04:24] <jbirdAngel> hello
[04:24] <Flame> Grr
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Argh
[04:24] <Flame> kopete refuses to connect...is anyone else getting messages about AIM being unavailable?
[04:25] <v3ctor> aol just had a blip
[04:25] <slow-motion> re
[04:26] <v3ctor> everyone i work with got booted
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> brb  going to reinstall
[04:26] <Flame> heh
[04:26] <Flame> So how long should I estimate before I can connect again?
[04:26] <v3ctor> i reconnected already
[04:26] <linux_galore> time for bed
[04:27] <defrysk> estimate a blib ?
[04:27] <Flame> Gr...
[04:27] <defrysk> errr.....
[04:28] <Flame> Hmm
[04:28] <Flame> Still getting messages about the AIM service being temp. unavail..
[04:28] <Flame> >.<
[04:29] <v3ctor> there was a great disturbance in the force...my internet connection slowed for a while there
[04:29] <Flame> Gyahhhhhhhhhh
[04:29] <Flame> I just connected another acct.
[04:29] <Flame> But the first one wont connect -.-;;
[04:30] <Flame> Yeah it refuses to let me add that one
[04:30] <Flame> >.>
[04:31] <StR> Hi all!
[04:31] <Flame> ./Sigh
[04:31] <Flame> Hi
[04:31] <Flame> How do I update packages if apt-get and Adept both continue to give me "Fail to fetch" messages?
[04:32] <Hobbsee> Flame: use a different mirror
[04:32] <Hobbsee> !mirror
[04:32] <ubotu> from memory, mirror is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[04:33] <kez_> hey, has anyone got a minute to help me? I've got a weird problem with KDE
[04:33] <shentey> hi! how can i activate the tar kio plugin in konqueror?
[04:33] <Flame> Ive tried.
[04:33] <Flame> Ive gone through 6 mirrors.
[04:33] <Flame> Same errors.
[04:33] <Flame> ./Scratches head.
[04:33] <kez_> basically, ctrl-tab doesn't work... all other shortcut keys work fine
[04:34] <Flame> deb http://ubuntu.secs.oakland.edu/ dapper universe
[04:34] <Flame> That IS the right format, correct?
[04:37] <Hobbsee> Flame: yes...
[04:37] <Flame> ./Sigh
[04:37] <Flame> Then I have no idea whats wrong.
[04:37] <Flame> My net works...Im on this/Konqueror and Kopete >.>
[04:38] <Flame> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.secs.oakland.edu/dists/dapper/universe/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed
[04:38] <Flame> That times ten.
[04:38] <Flame> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/main Packages
[04:38] <Flame>   Connection failed [IP: 85.133.25.7 80] 
[04:39] <Flame> And that times ten.
[04:39] <shentey> @Flame: so you have ethereal installed?
[04:40] <Flame> Umm...Ethereal?
[04:40] <Flame> ./I r nubby
[04:40] <shentey> it's a network monitoring tool
[04:40] <Flame> Umm how would I check if I have it installed or not?
[04:40] <shentey> type "ethereal" in a console
[04:40] <shentey> and start it ;-)
[04:41] <Avdi__> has anyone had problems with kded crashing in 6.06?
[04:41] <Flame> Umm ok
[04:41] <Flame> I typed it into the console
[04:41] <Flame> and I found it
[04:42] <Flame> But...if I click it, nada.
[04:42] <shentey> with my card it detects tcp checksum errors
[04:42] <Flame> Nothing happens >>
[04:42] <MasterEvilAce> does the kubuntu 6.06 DVD contain more than the CD?
[04:42] <shentey> well, you have to start it with root permissions
[04:43] <shentey> Alt-F2: ethereal + root user
[04:44] <andrisp> !lv
[04:44] <ubotu> andrisp: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:44] <kez_> can anyone help me with this KDE ctrl-tab not working problem? it's driving me insane
[04:45] <Flame> Umm
[04:45] <Flame> How do I start it with root permissions...?
[04:45] <shentey> Type Alt+F2 and you get a "run command" window
[04:46] <shentey> there you type "ethereal" as the command and press the button "advanced" or "more" (dont't know exactly how it is named)
[04:46] <exhale> adept :x
[04:47] <shentey> then you can start ethereal with root permissions
[04:47] <Flame> Adept wont connect to Dl the packages :(
[04:47] <exhale> adept sucks.
[04:48] <exhale> and that is a fact.
[04:48] <shentey> btw, ethereal is good for detecting network problems so it's like shooting at sparrows with guns ;-)
[04:48] <Flame> And I wouldnt mind having to do it as the apt-get commands either.
[04:48] <Flame> But...those wont connect either >.>
[04:48] <Flame> Well, the sparrows be pwning me right now :P
[04:49] <Flame> Ok
[04:49] <Flame> I went to run
[04:49] <Flame> Ran it as root
[04:49] <Flame> and...after I hit "Run", nothing.
[04:49] <Flame> It doesnt realize it exists..?
[04:50] <luh> i've just set up my computer on kubuntu.
[04:50] <shentey> it seems you don't have it installed :-(
[04:50] <MasterEvilAce> any difference between i386 and i686 ? I remember someone had me reinstall kernel earlier and it gave me i686.. but all the install CDs to d/l are 386.
[04:50] <Flame> Grr..
[04:50] <luh> and now i have a non-working X
[04:50] <Flame> So how do I install it?
[04:50] <luh> graphic card is a sis
[04:50] <MasterEvilAce> so, hardware wise is there any improvement by using the 686?
[04:50] <luh> monitor is an acer Al1716
[04:50] <Flame> Non-working X.../nightmare reminder of my earlier messing-around with Debian...>.>
[04:50] <exhale> luh what driver are you using?
[04:50] <shentey> can you open the package repository in a browser?
[04:50] <exhale> and what error are you getting?
[04:50] <luh> Flame, on debian it always worked for me
[04:51] <luh> exhale, no clue - just finished the isntallation routine
[04:51] <exhale> well... then check xorg.conf.. how else are we supposed to help you?
[04:51] <luh> exhale, how am i supposed to check xorg.conf?
[04:51] <Flame> Hm
[04:51] <Flame> Is ethereal installed by default?
[04:51] <exhale> with vim/nano/any text editor?
[04:51] <shentey> no, it is not
[04:51] <Flame> Because...I pretty much just finished installing Kubuntu
[04:51] <luh> exhale, - i have no x and no console
[04:51] <Flame> So then how do I...install it?
[04:51] <luh> nothing i could work on
[04:52] <exhale> then get a console
[04:52] <exhale> just choose recovery console or whatever it says when booting in grub
[04:52] <exhale> you will be booted to console
[04:52] <luh> sure - i'll be right back
[04:52] <CaBlGuY> ok, is flash player 8 available?
[04:52] <shentey> well, you have to use apt (adept, ...)
[04:53] <Flame> Ugh
[04:53] <exhale> how come firefox isnt default in kubuntu?
[04:53] <CaBlGuY> ok..  just search for flash player 8 right?
[04:53] <Flame> Which is my problem to begin with
[04:53] <Flame> Lol
[04:53] <Flame> Because it wont connect! >.<
[04:53] <Flame> So in other words...Im screwed?
[04:53] <shentey> can you open a repository in a browser?
[04:54] <exhale> yup
[04:54] <Flame> Yes
[04:54] <Flame> Although Im not quite sure what to do once there >.>
[04:54] <shentey> that's funny
[04:54] <Flame> Heh
[04:55] <shentey> so your browser can connect to the server but apt can't?
[04:55] <Flame> http://ubuntu.secs.oakland.edu/
[04:55] <Flame> Like be able to open that, right?
[04:55] <Flame> UNder Konq?
[04:55] <shentey> yes
[04:55] <Flame> Because I can do that, yeah.
[04:55] <exhale> what are you trying to do, really?
[04:55] <Flame> Update in any way/shape/form
[04:55] <Flame> I cant update through Adept. Or apt-get
[04:55] <exhale> then something's wrong.
[04:56] <Flame> And I strongly suspect that at this rate, if there was another way to update, that wouldnt work either.
[04:56] <Flame> Well...Im not THAT newb...I figured that part out :P
[04:56] <exhale> lol
[04:56] <exhale> try messing around with sources.list
[04:56] <Flame> the correcting part is where Im totally lost...
[04:56] <Flame> The wiki link for mirrors.
[04:56] <Flame> Ive tried 6 diff mirrors.
[04:56] <Flame> Nothing still
[04:56] <exhale> well
[04:56] <exhale> what happens?
[04:56] <Flame> So I suspect it might be something...other than the mirror
[04:56] <exhale> have you sudo-apt-get update?
[04:57] <Flame> I get a "Failed to connect" "Failed to fetch" error.
[04:57] <Flame> I can pastebin it if you'd like >.>
[04:57] <exhale> k
[04:58] <Flame> Exhale: http://pastebin.com/759849
[05:00] <exhale> hmm weird
[05:00] <Flame> Yeah...I'm not quite sure what the issue is...router mayhaps?
[05:00] <andrisp> which is the best firewall front-end solution for kde ?
[05:00] <exhale> why would you need one?
[05:01] <exhale> Flame hmm i donnu... have a different network card to try?
[05:01] <andrisp> why not ?
[05:01] <luh> exhale, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/759852 - there is my xorg.conf file
[05:01] <Flame> Well...I have oh. Nvm I thought you were asking me why I needed a router.
[05:01] <Flame> I was going to point out that a lot of people have routers and whatnot
[05:01] <exhale> luh try changing the driver to vesa
[05:01] <Flame> Just 1 network card and Ive tried to activate/deactiv. it a couple times..
[05:01] <Flame> Nothing doing.
[05:01] <Flame> Still the same
[05:02] <Flame> The weird part
[05:02] <Flame> Is that I can update fine if I run it off the LiveCD
[05:02] <luh> which one exhale ?
[05:02] <exhale>         Driver          "i810"
[05:02] <Flame> But while isntalling, near the end, I get an error saying it cant find security updates. And then I get these errors after install finishes
[05:02] <exhale> change i810 to vesa and restart X
[05:02] <luh> k
[05:02] <exhale> Flame, but you can browse the internet?
[05:02] <luh> startx is the command or what is it under kubuntu?
[05:03] <exhale> luh yep
[05:04] <Flame> Yes
[05:04] <Flame> ANd Im on this and kopete
[05:04] <exhale> uhmm i donnu then... might want to try to reinstall
[05:04] <exhale> try pinging the repos
[05:05] <Flame> How..?
[05:05] <kez_> hey, does kubuntu install will non-kde default key settings?
[05:06] <exhale> Flame open a terminal and type "ping www.asdadsas.com"
[05:06] <Flame> ok
[05:08] <Flame> ok
[05:08] <luh> exhale, screens found but none with a useable configuration
[05:08] <Flame> I chose to ping archive.ubuntu.com
[05:08] <Flame> All the time values are rather high though.
[05:09] <Flame> Lowest is 90 ms
[05:09] <exhale> luh then i dont know :/
[05:09] <exhale> isnt there a driver called "sis"?
[05:09] <luh> exhale, vesa no matching device section for instance
[05:09] <Flame> Actually, lowest is 96 ms*
[05:09] <luh> FATAL ERROR: no screens found
[05:09] <Flame> So now Im just kinda watching it scroll...where do I go now? Idea-process-wise?
[05:10] <luh> that the things it told me - and a lotmore
[05:10] <luh> but i can't keep it all in mind exhale  - because i have to run through the house all the time
[05:10] <luh> to get from one computer to the other
[05:10] <exhale> :/
[05:10] <exhale> !reconfigure x
[05:10] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, exhale
[05:11] <exhale> hmm
[05:11] <exhale> i donnu try reconfigure X and see what gives
[05:11] <luh> apt-setup --reconfigure x
[05:11] <Flame> >.<
[05:11] <luh> was that the command?
[05:11] <luh> or what was it?
[05:11] <Hobbsee> !xfcg
[05:11] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee
[05:11] <Hobbsee> !xcfg
[05:11] <ubotu> hmm... xcfg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:11] <luh> thanks
[05:12] <kez_> hey, is there any way to get kde to open firefox instead of konqueror if i write a "http://" type uri into the KDE run command dialog?
[05:12] <Hobbsee> kez_: should be, it's set in system settings...
[05:12] <Hobbsee> user account, the last optoin
[05:12] <Hobbsee> er, wait, in kde components
[05:12] <Flame> exhale: After I ping a repository...then what?
[05:12] <Hobbsee> (who moved that!)
[05:12] <Flame> O_O
[05:13] <Flame> Smack them...
[05:13] <Hobbsee> nah, it's better where it is now - i just hadnt noticed it movng
[05:13] <Flame> Heh
[05:14] <Flame> Hobbsee, you have any ideas on what to do for an updating problem?
[05:14] <Hobbsee> Flame: the repos are borked again?
[05:14] <Flame> Umm
[05:14] <Flame> I dunno...
[05:14] <Flame> Ive tried a bunch
[05:14] <Flame> And I cant connect to any
[05:14] <Flame> Either with Adept
[05:14] <Flame> Or with apt-get update
[05:14] <Flame> >.>
[05:15] <Flame> http://pastebin.com/759849
[05:15] <Flame> Thats the error I get, if youre curious as to wtf Im getting as a message
[05:15] <Flame> >>
[05:15] <Hobbsee> looks like US mirrors are borked agian
[05:15] <Flame> Grr...
[05:15] <Flame> So which do I try?
[05:15] <Hobbsee> gb mirrors
[05:16] <Flame> Oh
[05:16] <Flame> By US mirrors
[05:16] <Flame> You mean ALL USmirrors?
[05:16] <Flame> Oh. /Considers this concept for the first time.
[05:16] <Flame> Suggestions?
[05:16] <Hobbsee> replace where it says "us" with "gb"
[05:16] <Hobbsee> in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:17] <Flame> Will one like http://ubuntu.blueyonder.co.uk/archive/ off the Wiki list work as well?
[05:18] <Hobbsee> Flame: quite possibly
[05:19] <Hobbsee> but the gb mirrors are good
[05:19] <Flame> ./Sigh.
[05:19] <Flame> Same errors.
[05:19] <permanewb> after dist-upgrade to dapper, seamonkey and seamonkey-installer cause a segementation fault. have you experienced this?
[05:19] <Flame> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.blueyonder.co.uk/archive/dists/dapper-security/universe/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed [IP: 194.117.143.71 80] 
[05:19] <Flame> That times ten.
[05:19] <Hobbsee> Flame: yeah, try the official gb mirrors - they're usually the most updated, too
[05:20] <Flame> Hmm ok
[05:20] <Flame> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[05:20] <Flame> Those for each mirror?
[05:21] <Hobbsee> Flame: yeah
[05:21] <Flame> kk
[05:21] <Flame> Hmm...
[05:22] <Flame> Same errors again.
[05:22] <jen1020> Hi, guys
[05:22] <kronoz> !easysource
[05:22] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:22] <Hobbsee> good point
[05:22] <Hobbsee> hey jen1020
[05:22] <jen1020> I've got a laptop that has a strange widescreen resolution and it's got an ATI Xpress card in it... is this supported by Kubuntu?
[05:23] <Flame> Hobbsee: http://pastebin.com/759887 Are there errors in that?
[05:23] <Flame> (My sources.list)
[05:24] <Hobbsee> Flame: looks good to me.  those security mirrors will get fixed...
[05:24] <mikmak> hi
[05:24] <Hobbsee> sometimes the mirrors just bork.  particularly the US ones, and the AU ones
[05:24] <mikmak> are there any plans for a kopete pkg for dapper ?
[05:24] <Flame> Hmm
[05:24] <Flame> Well, I havent been able to update for 2 days now...
[05:24] <Hobbsee> mikmak: 0.12?  yes
[05:24] <mikmak> Hobbsee: yes :)
[05:24] <Flame> How long should I not consider this an issue for?
[05:25] <Hobbsee> mikmak: wget http://www.ubuntu-zh.org/~freeflying/packages/kopete_3.5.3kopete0.12.0-1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:25] <mikmak> Hobbsee: cool, thanks !
[05:26] <apokryphos> heh, curious version-naming scheme
[05:26] <kronoz> i keep getting this error
[05:26] <kronoz> Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/dists/dapper/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[05:26] <kronoz> has the repo location changed?
[05:26] <defrysk> Hobbsee, :)
[05:26] <Flame> Well, its KINDA the same thing I get >.>
[05:26] <apokryphos> kronoz: sudo apt-get update first?
[05:26] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.3
[05:26] <ubotu> kde3.5.3 is probably to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[05:26] <Flame> ./Sigh.
[05:27] <Hobbsee> defrysk: :)  i got ktorrent to build, but not to install okay.
[05:27] <kronoz> apokryphos: that is from apt get update
[05:27] <Flame> Anyone...? Ideas on how to update if neither apt-get nor the Adept client will connect?
[05:27] <kronoz> yes, i know that is for 3.5.3 but has the lastest kde repo gone now?
[05:27] <apokryphos> kronoz: use the static repository for 3.5.3 then
[05:28] <defrysk> Hobbsee, I noticed on another ktorrent.deb for dapper that it was also not able to install
[05:28] <defrysk> the one in the forum did fine tho
[05:28] <jen1020> I've got a laptop that has a strange widescreen resolution and it's got an ATI Xpress card in it... is this supported by Kubuntu?
[05:28] <Hobbsee> defrysk: there's no way i could stick the forum one into the official repos though :P
[05:28] <apokryphos> jen1020: have you installed the ati drivers?
[05:28] <kosh> jen1020: pop in a live cd and see what happens
[05:29] <robin> jen1020: what kind of resolution ?
[05:29] <defrysk> Hobbsee, http://www.ubuntu-debs.de/app/ktorrent2/ is one that also did not work
[05:29] <jen1020> Not installed Kubuntu yet, just downloaded the Install CD :)
[05:29] <Hobbsee> ok
[05:29] <robin> jen1020: strange resolution doesn't'matter.. I'm running widescreen too:)
[05:29] <jen1020> Robin... yay! :)
[05:29] <Flame> Hobbsee: No other ideas? :(
[05:29] <jen1020> Are the ATI drivers easy to install?
[05:30] <Hobbsee> Flame: not at this time of the morning, no
[05:30] <permanewb> arggh. I'm missing my work email right now... because seamonkey segfaults now, after upgrading to dapper. I can't even think of what to look for to diagnose the problem. do you know?
[05:30] <Flame> Curses.
[05:31] <defrysk> ncurses ?
[05:31] <Flame> Anyone else have ideas? :D
[05:31] <defrysk> Flame, ideas for what ?
[05:31] <Hobbsee> permanewb: got a pastebin of the segfault?  is this breezy or dapper?  is there already a bug listed for this?
[05:31] <Flame> Ok
[05:31] <Flame> I cant update
[05:31] <georg> can someone help me with ndiswrapper and my agere mini pci wlan adapter?
[05:31] <Flame> Either thru Adept or the apt-get update method
[05:31] <defrysk> repos not working ?
[05:31] <jen1020> Are the ATI drivers easy to install?
[05:31] <Flame> I dunno...Ive tried all the US ones and at Hobb's suggestion, I tried the GB ones.
[05:31] <Flame> Nada.
[05:32] <defrysk> Flame, try without cc
[05:32] <Flame> But I can connect to the internet, and Im on this and kopete
[05:32] <Flame> Without CC...
[05:32] <Flame> >.>
[05:32] <defrysk> country code
[05:32] <Flame> I r newby...
[05:32] <Flame> Ahh
[05:32] <Flame> Just archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:32] <defrysk> Flame, and use ftp iso http
[05:32] <defrysk> Flame, yes
[05:33] <defrysk> without cc usually does the trick
[05:33] <georg> is this the right place to ask questions about ndiswrapper?
[05:33] <Flame> Wait..use ftp/iso/http?
[05:33] <Hobbsee> georg: sure
[05:33] <defrysk> Flame, and if stil no go try ftp iso http
[05:34] <Flame> By that you mean...>.>
[05:34] <defrysk> ftp in stead op http
[05:34] <Flame> Replace the http with the others?
[05:34] <Flame> ahh ok
[05:34] <defrysk> of*
[05:34] <defrysk> no dns reso needed then , might help
[05:34] <permanewb> hobbsee I see no mention of seamonkey in the ubuntu bugs. this is under dapper, there was no segfault under breezy. the seamonkey installer also segfaults. the error is "glibc detected double free or corruption" and "segmentation fault".
[05:34] <georg> so can you help me with my agere mini pci wlan adapter?
[05:35] <Hobbsee> georg: what model chipset does it have?  check in lspci
[05:35] <Flame> Oh my God...it WORKS.
[05:35] <Flame> Wow.
[05:35] <Hobbsee> permanewb: hmm okay.
[05:35] <Flame> Its probably unhealthy if I just felt incredibly happy, isnt it...
[05:35] <Flame> ./Sigh. My life is complete.
[05:36] <georg> hobsee: 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Agere Systems Hermes2 Mini-PCI WaveLAN a/b/g i have searched the ndiswrapper list but couldn't find the card there
[05:36] <Flame> Wow. Muchas gracias defrysk...the ftp idea works ^^
[05:38] <Flame> One more question. Under Kopete.
[05:38] <Flame> How do I change which s.n it defaults to?
[05:38] <defrysk> Flame, ;)
[05:38] <Flame> The user Im IMing is only on my BL for one of the two account
[05:38] <Flame> accounts*
[05:38] <Flame> But when I click their name to chat...it sends it as the other account
[05:38] <Hobbsee> Flame: it's under settings, configuration...oh...that...
[05:39] <Flame> Ahh
[05:39] <Flame> Remind me again how thats helpful...-.-;
[05:39] <Flame> Lol
[05:39] <defrysk> speed kills ? :s
[05:39] <georg> hobsee: this is the pci id: 11c1:ab30
[05:40] <Hobbsee> defrysk: download accelerator :P
[05:40] <defrysk> lol Hobbsee
[05:40] <Hobbsee> georg: i dont know sorry.  and nick completion is useful
[05:40] <georg> nick completion?
[05:40] <defrysk> Hobbsee, I'd better use wget -c for this so i can resume tomorrow if needed ;p
[05:41] <Hobbsee> defrysk: hehe
[05:41] <elisiano> hi guys, could you please suggest me a channel for xgl on kubuntu?
[05:41] <Flame> Hobbsee: No dice.
[05:41] <Flame> Its kinda funny though
[05:41] <Flame> Lol
[05:41] <Flame> [10:40]  EternalPath06: Is this sending as FlameStryk05?
[05:41] <Flame> Is the way my friend sees what Im saying.
[05:41] <Flame> (11:41:03) FlameStryk05:  Lol
[05:41] <Flame> That is the way I see what Im sending
[05:41] <Flame> ./head hurts
[05:41] <jorik> just to be 100% sure: im running breezy now, if i do apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, replace my sources.list, then apt-get update and upgrade again; im running dapper, right ?
[05:42] <defrysk> jorik, right and otherwise wrong
[05:42] <stevekl> jorik: You don't have to upgrade before upgrading to dapper
[05:42] <elisiano> jorik: you don't need the first update/upgrade
[05:42] <Flame> O.o
[05:42] <jorik> oh ok
[05:42] <Flame> So anyone know how to best this latest demon?
[05:42] <Flame> >.>
[05:42] <stevekl> jorik: Also there's a 'reccomended sources.list' for dapper somewhere
[05:43] <stevekl> I'm not sure where though
[05:43] <defrysk> jorik, make sure after the install to apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-minimal and kubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <defrysk> jorik, and again a dist-upgrade then to make it complete
[05:43] <jbirdAngel> is there a way in konversation to make it so that only 1 room notifies me upon a new message in channel?
[05:43] <Flame> HAH!
[05:43] <jorik> stevekl, im using the source-o-matic
[05:43] <Flame> I winz!
[05:43] <stevekl> jorik: yeah that's it
[05:43] <elisiano> anyone tried xgl with nvidia?
[05:43] <jorik> defrysk, thx
[05:44] <Flame> I changed the default nick and now it just says "Me:"
[05:44] <Flame> ^_^
[05:44] <defrysk> elisiano, yes I did and am stil on the wagon
[05:44] <elisiano> :O
[05:44] <elisiano> did u have troubles?
[05:44] <stevekl> Does dist-upgrade do everything that upgrade does? Should I run both every day, or what?
[05:44] <defrysk> elisiano, stability resources and freezing
[05:45] <elisiano> but at least u managed
[05:45] <elisiano> :(
[05:45] <defrysk> stevekl, distupgrade adds new packages if needed, upgrade does not
[05:45] <elisiano> I get a strange error complaining about pixmap extension, but it's there
[05:45] <defrysk> elisiano, got rid of it after trieing it
[05:46] <kronoz> distupgrade upgrades the distro
[05:46] <kronoz> like from debian stable to testing to unstable
[05:46] <defrysk> kronoz, that too
[05:46] <elisiano> how did u do that defrysk ?
[05:46] <stevekl> defrysk: oh yeah? I didn't know that
[05:46] <defrysk> kronoz, dist-upgrade is also known as "smart" upgrade
[05:47] <elisiano> dist-upgrade install extra packages if necessary, upgrade doesn't, it just upgrade the existing ones
[05:47] <defrysk> elisiano, correct and skips the ones that need new packages
[05:47] <defrysk> or dependencies it you wish
[05:51] <defrysk> _?_
[05:51] <melan> somebody know why wine does not create the c drive when i execute wine?
[05:51] <jorik> when i do an apt-get update, i get a lot of errors saying "subprocess bzip2 failed", "subprocess gzip failed", etc ... is that normal ?
[05:52] <defrysk> melan, wincfg to set it up iirc
[05:52] <defrysk> winecfg
[05:53] <stevekl> jorik: I don't *think* that's normal...is this after you've upgraded to dapper?
[05:54] <_nicky_> running breezy, with customized kernel.  Should i do apt-get dist-upgrade, or fresh install?
[05:54] <defrysk> customized kernel might be tricky
[05:55] <stevekl> nixternal: If you want to continue to use a cutom kernel you'll have to compile one after upgrading to dapper, probably
[05:55] <stevekl> Man, I haven't compiled a kernel in ages
[05:55] <nixternal> oh..i use customized kernels all the time...but i think you meant _nicky_
[05:55] <nixternal> Sysinfo for 'MasTequila': Linux 2.6.16-ck11 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2000+ at 1674 MHz (3350 bogomips), , RAM: 395/503MB, 98 proc's, 12.45h up
[05:56] <nixternal> see...2.6.16-ck11 :D
[05:56] <defrysk> Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-23-k7 | Distro: Debian/GNU testing/unstable | CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2200+ @ 1801 Mhz | Mem usage: 280.7/1010.5 MB (28%) | Swap usage: 18/2965.1 MB (1%) | Disk usage(Maxtor 6L300R0): 137.2/233.9 GB (59%) | Uptime: 11 hrs 53 mins 39 secs
[05:56] <defrysk> nixternal, does it ... "help" ?
[05:56] <stevekl> oh dapper uses 2.6.15 apparently
[05:56] <melan> defrysk: thanks it works
[05:57] <stevekl> so I guess you'll be ok
[05:57] <defrysk> melan, great :)
[05:57] <nixternal> oh ya...but my kernel is hacked so much...i only load the things i need...if i don't use it or need it...it doesn't get loaded...not even as a module
[05:57] <defrysk> nixternal, good for you ;)
[05:57] <stevekl> Er sorry I read defrysk's line as your line, ignore me
[05:57] <nixternal> and i have a lot of patches...the ck patch is the main for performance
[05:57] <simlu> hi!
[05:57] <stevekl> nixternal: Yeah I used to run gentoo and debian with custom kernels
[05:58] <stevekl> It was nice knowing that things I didn't need weren't there, but binary kernels are just so much easier on me
[05:58] <stevekl> I don't even have to worry about them
[05:58] <nixternal> there are some other patches out there im gonna eventually use to test with
[05:58] <nixternal> ya stevekl..that is a great feature with bin kerns
[05:58] <_nicky_> mine on Fujitsu P7120, used a cust.kernel to make things work
[05:58] <simlu> when I search for kernel-image with apt, I get only kernel-image for 2.4... where's the 2.6?
[05:59] <stevekl> Should I upgrade my breezy server (no window manager or desktop installed) to dapper
[06:00] <dr_willis> stevekl:  not sure ya would gain much. :P
[06:00] <dr_willis> except new updates/security.
[06:00] <defrysk> wow new copete has webcam :)
[06:01] <defrysk> kopete
[06:01] <dr_willis> stevekl:  so if its on the internet - id say yes.. if its just a local fileserver.. id say no, unless ya want to.
[06:01] <defrysk> and works wonderfully
[06:02] <elisiano> defrysk: really?
[06:03] <defrysk> elisiano, yes
[06:03] <exhale> how come theres no firefox in kubuntu?
[06:03] <elisiano> well there's not by default
[06:03] <dr_willis> Never noticed. :P
[06:03] <defrysk> elisiano, the one I downloaded does
[06:04] <stevekl> exhale: apt-get install firefox
[06:04] <dr_willis> I wodner if im the only one that  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop by default. :)
[06:04] <defrysk> the one hobbsee provided
[06:04] <dr_willis> so i have all 3 desktops
[06:04] <stevekl> firefox pretty much works with both ubuntu and kubuntu
[06:04] <dr_willis> can you apt-get opera now?
[06:04] <Flame> Do I have to DL Wine?
[06:04] <dr_willis> !wine
[06:04] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[06:05] <Flame> I was actually just asking if it was pre-installed or not :P
[06:05] <Flame> But thanks ^^
[06:06] <jorik> ok, im doing a dist-upgrade right now ... and i get a LOT of errors (its still downloading atm), which seem to indicate that not all packages can be downloaded
[06:07] <jorik> i mean it looks like 75% of all packages fail to download
[06:07] <jorik> ugh
[06:07] <stevekl> jorik: If your /home on a separate partition?
[06:07] <bleaked> is it possible to mount two different directories on a single partiton onto two different directories on the running system?
[06:07] <jorik> no
[06:07] <elisiano> did u do dist-upgrade without update?
[06:07] <jorik> no i updated it first
[06:07] <jorik> i get a lot of 104 errors
[06:08] <stevekl> Damn, does ubuntu not by default put your /home on a separate partition?
[06:08] <defrysk> jorik, used automatix ?
[06:08] <stevekl> I'm really surprised that everyone has /home and / on the same partition
[06:08] <jorik> no i dont think so
[06:08] <stevekl> It's a pretty bad idea
[06:08] <jorik> im thinking, if i kill the upgrade now, will it harm my system ?
[06:08] <defrysk> jorik, you have all repos set to dapper ?
[06:09] <jorik> defrysk, yup, i used to source-o-matic
[06:09] <defrysk> jorik, put it on pastebin please to make sure
[06:09] <bleaked> stevekl: well, considering the default *ubuntu install uses LVM..you'll see a lot of that.  but yea, i both agree and practice separating / and /home
[06:09] <chrome> hello
[06:10] <chrome> I have a problem with kbluetoothd
[06:10] <elisiano> I just tried the webcam in kopete and it's not working defrysk
[06:10] <jorik> defrysk, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/760002
[06:10] <jorik> i think its all good tho
[06:11] <chrome> I have paired two devices (laptop, mobile phone) but in the list of paired devices there is nothing
[06:11] <chrome> why?
[06:11] <defrysk> elisiano, on the kopete hobbsee provided ?
[06:11] <elisiano> no the versio shipped with kde 3.5.3
[06:11] <elisiano> version*
[06:12] <CaBlGuY> ok, how would I go about mounting my digicam??
[06:12] <jorik> hmm im just gonna kill the update to breezy i think
[06:12] <jorik> dapper*
[06:12] <CaBlGuY> jorik: why u sayin that?
[06:12] <jorik> and buy a new HD and wait for ship-it
[06:12] <defrysk> jorik, you might have probs with the opera and penguin repo
[06:13] <chrome> nobody can give me an advice about it?
[06:13] <chrome> ...
[06:13] <Flame> Got a sec for another quick question anyone?
[06:13] <defrysk> also the kubuntu repos might be a prob , I would wait with that till after the dist-upgrade
[06:13] <CaBlGuY> chrome:  sorry,, i'm not knowledgeab;le about such things. :p
[06:13] <jorik> defrysk, well almost *everything* was 104'ing, i saw things like perl failing to download
[06:13] <shentey> How can i configure konqeror to use the tar protocol for opening tar archives instead of having it start ark?
[06:13] <CaBlGuY> !digicam
[06:13] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:13] <CaBlGuY> !digital camera
[06:13] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[06:13] <defrysk> jorik, change http to ftp
[06:14] <defrysk> jorik, might do the trick
[06:14] <Flame> !wine
[06:14] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[06:14] <Flame> Anyone got a sec?
[06:14] <Flame> For a WINE issue?
[06:14] <Healot> !beer
[06:14] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[06:14] <Flame> Literally...a whine about WINE.
[06:14] <CaBlGuY> Flame:  just ask, no need to ask to ask..
[06:14] <CaBlGuY> :p
[06:14] <simian__> sorry, but can someone enter benward.dyndns.org into a browser,  i want to see if i have unblocked port 80
[06:15] <Flame> Lol
[06:15] <Flame> ok.
[06:15] <Flame> I Adept'd Wine
[06:15] <CaBlGuY> ok..
[06:15] <Flame> And...I went to run and ran "Wine"
[06:15] <Flame> And..nada
[06:15] <Flame> Its as if I didnt do anything
[06:15] <exhale> ...
[06:15] <elisiano> whine on WINE, not on wine
[06:15] <jorik> defrysk, thing is, i thought this would be quick and painless ... im just going to leave it as it is now because i cant risk fubar-ing my computer right before my finals. ill be buying a bigger HD somewhere in july ... by then i should be able to find some ship-it cd's around here.
[06:15] <exhale> you need to run it with an app
[06:15] <elisiano> :D
[06:15] <defrysk> Flame, winecfg
[06:15] <Flame> Ah.
[06:15] <exhale> lmao
[06:16] <CaBlGuY> Hmmm  Flame what u runnin? Dapper?
[06:16] <defrysk> jorik, just change http to ftp in the repos
[06:16] <Flame> Yeah.
[06:16] <defrysk> more peeps have probs wth http at the moment
[06:16] <defrysk> jorik, and then retry
[06:16] <jorik> defrysk, just the kubuntu repos ?
[06:16] <CaBlGuY> well, IM not to sure about Wine on dapper at this point..  did u try installin it from synaptic?
[06:16] <duane> is it ok to install opera web browser for dapper?
[06:16] <defrysk> joch, the ubuntu repos
[06:16] <Flame> Yeah >.>
[06:17] <defrysk> jorik, why not do them all
[06:17] <duane> or should I just wait till they release a version for dapper?
[06:17] <Flame> If I locate it, it gives me a malformatted error
[06:17] <CaBlGuY> Flame:  well, all I can say is wait till someone with more knowledge shows up.. :p
[06:17] <Flame> Hehe :D
[06:17] <CaBlGuY> have ya tried to unistall, and reinstall it?
[06:18] <defrysk> coffee :)
[06:18] <jorik> defrysk, i dunno, im thinking maybe the other repos dont all run ftp ?
[06:18] <defrysk> jorik, originally they are all ftp
[06:18] <Flame> Not yet
[06:18] <Flame> I was hoping to avoid that.
[06:19] <CaBlGuY> ahhh
[06:19] <Flame> Speaking of which...anyone here use Stealthbot with this OS?
[06:19] <CaBlGuY> ok, well, pull up a chair..  and have a sit..
[06:19] <Flame> :D
[06:19] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[06:19] <defrysk> http is often used to avoid traffic shaping I guess
[06:19] <Flame> ;)
[06:19] <defrysk> traffic shaping policies that is
[06:21] <jbirdAngel> is there a way in konversation to make it so that only 1 room notifies me upon a new message in channel?
[06:23] <defrysk> jbirdAngel, put yourself on /away on the other rooms might do the trick :)
[06:23] <jbirdAngel> defrysk: ok but then would i not get any notification from those rooms even if they say my username?
[06:24] <defrysk> jbirdAngel, not sure , but try it and find out :)
[06:24] <jbirdAngel> defrysk okay thanks
[06:24] <jbirdAngel> oh okay
[06:24] <jbirdAngel> do you use kontact?
[06:24] <defrysk> nope
[06:25] <jbirdAngel> ok thanks
[06:25] <jorik> defrysk, i replaced the http's with ftp's and did an update (which went well), when i did a dist-upgrade however, it still failed all the time. im thinking, just because you grab the lists from the repo's over ftp instead of http, will that really change where apt will look for the packages itself ?
[06:25] <Flame> ^^
[06:25] <defrysk> jorik, witch repos fail ?
[06:25] <jbirdAngel> ah okay
[06:25] <defrysk> all of them ?
[06:25] <Flame> No, it will change how it gets them though...
[06:26] <Flame> <-- living proof
[06:26] <defrysk> or only the ones starting with se ?
[06:26] <Flame> Lol
[06:26] <defrysk> jorik, its about the connection nothing else
[06:27] <defrysk> anyway I have to go for now ...
[06:27] <defrysk> later all
[06:27] <Flame> Later
[06:27] <defrysk> Flame, you are swedish right ?
[06:27] <Flame> Umm...not that I know of >.>
[06:27] <Flame> Lol
[06:27] <defrysk> hehe
[06:27] <Flame> xD
[06:27] <jorik> defrysk, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/760040
[06:27] <defrysk> you used se repo ?
[06:28] <defrysk> Flame, ?
[06:28] <Flame> Nope, I used the gb ones
[06:28] <defrysk> ok
[06:28] <Flame> And they work well with the FTP bit :D
[06:28] <ubuntu> hi there running ubuntu live to deal with a problem, how do i install gparted to this live thing
[06:28] <jorik> defrysk: btw, i used the se repo, someone said that would solve my "subprocess gzip failed with error 1" errors (which it did)
[06:29] <defrysk> jorik, kubuntu.org repos wegcommenten
[06:29] <defrysk> en dan weer proberen
[06:29] <defrysk> jorik, you have to use ftp
[06:30] <defrysk> get rid of the http and change it to ftp
[06:30] <defrysk> seriously
[06:30] <jorik> hmmmm
[06:30] <jorik> i love you
[06:30] <defrysk> jorik, http does not work
[06:30] <jorik> thx :D its all downloading without errors now
[06:31] <defrysk> joch, ftp ?
[06:31] <jorik> (over ftp yes)
[06:31] <defrysk> cool
[06:31] <luh> exhale, i have the error messages from when I do startx
[06:31] <luh> do you think that would be of any help?
[06:31] <defrysk> they seem to have dns probs on the servers I guess
[06:31] <jbirdAngel> defrysk: will you say a message with my name in it to see if i get notified?
[06:31] <defrysk> no for my disches
[06:31] <defrysk> jbirdAngel, sure
[06:31] <defrysk> no = now :(
[06:31] <jbirdAngel> defrysk: okay thank you, and i did
[06:32] <codec> hey there
[06:32] <defrysk> and not sattelite dishes unfortunately
[06:32] <codec> ;] 
[06:32] <korozion> I had downloaded 6.06 last month, now that it's been released, should I download it again, if I'm going to do a new install on another computer?
[06:32] <defrysk> korozion, download it again for the updates are as big and take longer to install then a fresh install
[06:32] <codec> i have a problem with the mp3s
[06:33] <korozion> perfect, thanks
[06:33] <codec> can u help me?
[06:33] <defrysk> !mp3
[06:33] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:33] <PyroMithrandir> !ask
[06:33] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:33] <defrysk> anyway.....dishes....
[06:33] <defrysk> :(
[06:33] <codec> 10x
[06:35] <Flame> Anyone here run Stealthbot?
[06:38] <moopere> anyone have a good laugh that kde 3.5.3 was released on the 31st may, 1 day before dapper went out the door?
[06:39] <dein> is 3.5.3 a good improvement from 3.5.2?
[06:39] <dein> or more of the same?
[06:39] <_Pete_> I didn't notice any difference yet :)
[06:39] <_Pete_> upgraded to it yesterday
[06:39] <dein> well maybe ill upgrade to it right now
[06:39] <Flame> Anyone here run Stealthbot?
[06:40] <kosh> just more bugfixes and it logs into the desktop faster for me
[06:40] <codec> damn :[
[06:40] <weedar> Does anyone know if the rt2500 wlan card is supported during install?
[06:40] <elisiano> bye
[06:40] <codec> cant find gstreamer.0.10.ugly
[06:40] <kosh> since it changed the startup order so when you have lots of apps that start back up it does it a lot faster
[06:40] <weedar> I need to know if I can rely on it or if I need a wired connection to the internet
[06:40] <mikmak> ok kopete does not build on amd64, as usual ...
[06:41] <mikmak> i give up
[06:41] <jbirdAngel> defrysk: i think i did it wrong, can you do anohter message for me? htank you
[06:41] <moopere> arg, damn kopete segfaults
[06:41] <dein> moopere: why not use kontact?
[06:41] <Japsu> -_-
[06:41] <moopere> yeah, I should
[06:41] <dein> also, how do i upgrade my kde on ubuntu
[06:42] <dein> er kubuntu
[06:42] <dein> lol
[06:42] <moopere> dein: you want 3.5.3?
[06:42] <Japsu> dein: see the front page of kubuntu.org
[06:42] <dein> yes
[06:42] <_Pete_> moopere: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[06:42] <moopere> dein: I'm running it here on 3 machines but I'm not at all sure its stable
[06:42] <Japsu> dein: in brief, 1) update /etc/apt/sources.list 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get upgrade
[06:42] <r0xz> dein: add some lines in sources.list
[06:42] <r0xz> see link above yes
[06:42] <moopere> dein: seems like plently of stuff crashes
[06:43] <dein> hmm maybe ill just wait
[06:43] <dein> not to big on crashiness
[06:43] <moopere> hows the stability of 3.5.2 everyone?  I only ran it for 5 minutes when dapper was released before I realised that 3.5.3 was out and I think I jumped in too early
[06:44] <dr_willis> never noticed the update. :P or did ya have to do somthing special to upgrade to it?
[06:44] <dein> i havent had too much trouble with it, and it's much faster than suse 10.1
[06:44] <crimsun> 3.5.2 is, by some reports, more stable than 3.5.3
[06:44] <Flame> Anyone here run Stealthbot?
[06:44] <crimsun> Flame: did you resolve your lynx issue?
[06:45] <Flame> Yeah actually ^__^
[06:45] <vassilis> hello everyone
[06:45] <Flame> Whats his name...defrysk helped me change the repository addresses to FTp rather than http..
[06:45] <Flame> And now it works :O
[06:45] <Flame> :)
[06:45] <moopere> I'm after speed and 3.5.3 is certainly fast, but I'm having funny results with some programs, perhaps not stable yet.  I'm sure that JR will get a new Dapper build out soonish
[06:45] <vassilis> My internet connection (DSL through router)does not work at startup
[06:46] <Riddell> moopere: what problems?
[06:46] <dein> i think im gonna reinstall my dapper
[06:46] <vassilis> I have to disable and reenable the eth0 interface to make it work
[06:46] <vassilis> any ideas?
[06:47] <dein> i'm having problems with certain packages wont unpack, and i can't get azureus to work properly
[06:47] <slow-motion> bbl
[06:48] <moopere> Riddell: kopete is segfaulting for a start :))
[06:49] <m00nzter> hi
[06:49] <_silje> hi everybody. Do anyone know where the file that contains the ifconfig_ra0="dhcp" is?
[06:49] <_silje> You see everytime i reboot i need to do a "sudo ifup ra0"
[06:49] <_silje> and since its my fathers computer and he hates commands, its kinda sad:P
[06:50] <moopere> Riddell: Ok to plonk kde 3.5.3 reports onto launchpad?
[06:50] <Riddell> moopere: yeah
[06:50] <Riddell> so long as you make it clear it's from kubuntu.org 3.5.3
[06:50] <dein> has anyone had any problems getting sun-java5-bin to install? and if so, do you know what causes it?
[06:51] <m00nzter> -.-
[06:51] <vassilis> dein: I had some problems
[06:51] <moopere> Riddell: ok, I'll do that.  I have a pretty serious bunch of tests I always do on upgrades (or with new distros) so I'll do those and then waddle off to LP with reports :))
[06:51] <vassilis> sun-java5-demo was reported broken
[06:51] <dr_willis> dein:  you trying to install it from the console/shell eh?  try it with synaptic
[06:51] <dein> adept/
[06:51] <dein> ?
[06:52] <dr_willis> dein:  it wants you to click on some eula last i used.. and it needed to be install from synaptic last i messed withit.
[06:52] <Riddell> moopere: there's also https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuAdditionalRepositories/KDE353
[06:52] <moopere> Riddell: Is the 3.5.3 on kubuntu.org built against dapper release or RC2?
[06:52] <dr_willis> dein:  thers some other tweak i think that may fix it also.
[06:52] <vassilis> is that what you mean?
[06:52] <_silje> anyone plz
[06:52] <m00nzter> - i can't install dapper drake on my laptop, screen switches off after loading screen
[06:52] <_silje> dosn't anyone know where to add my wireless card device on boot?
[06:52] <jbirdAngel> how do i set something other than kate as my default
[06:52] <dein> ill download and install synaptic then
[06:52] <dr_willis> _silje:  could use that rc.local script
[06:52] <ShastaMaroon> is kde 3.5.3 going to go under the standard update repository?
[06:52] <dein> m00nzter: what video card type are you using?
[06:53] <defrysk> ShastaMaroon, not in dapper
[06:53] <m00nzter> x700 mobility
[06:53] <dr_willis> dein:  i forget teh other fix. it set    how apt-get prompted  for dialogs.
[06:53] <m00nzter> @dein > x700 mobility
[06:53] <sandis> Hello! How do i get java working in konqueror?
[06:53] <Riddell> moopere: dapper release
[06:53] <Riddell> ShastaMaroon: no
[06:53] <vassilis> dein: the manual install described in the ubuntu wiki dor RestrictedFormats worked for me
[06:53] <_silje> dr_willis: what to add there? ifconfig_ra0="dhcp" ?
[06:53] <Flame> Anyone here run Stealthbot?
[06:53] <defrysk> sandis, install java and it should run by default
[06:54] <Flame> Or anything related to Bnet?
[06:54] <dein> it might be a problem of you need the proprietary ati drivers
[06:54] <dr_willis> _silje:  not sure about that. since thats a env variable.   you got to type come command ti get it working?
[06:54] <moopere> Riddell: Whats this link you pointed me at? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuAdditionalRepositories/KDE353 - is this an official 'issues' page?  or a workaround page??
[06:54] <m00nzter> @dein : how do I install the ati drivers if there is no kubuntu installed yet ?
[06:54] <vassilis> anyone can help me about my eth0 problem?
[06:55] <sandis> defrysk: do i have to change anything in "java and javascript settings"?
[06:55] <luh> i doubt that my problem will be solved just with dapper
[06:55] <defrysk> sandis, nope
[06:55] <_silje> dr_willis: yes, everytime I reboot i need to type ifup ra0
[06:55] <sandis> defrysk: ok, ill try it.
[06:55] <dr_willis> _silje:  then toss that in /etc/rc.local
[06:55] <defrysk> to get flash going you have to update pluginsearch
[06:55] <defrysk> or something
[06:55] <_silje> dr_willis: aight:P
[06:56] <dein> ah
[06:56] <dein> it's installing now
[06:56] <m00nzter> yepp
[06:56] <dein> ok synaptic worked
[06:56] <m00nzter> :S
[06:56] <dein> hmm
[06:56] <dein> you havent installed kubuntu at all yet?
[06:56] <Flame> O.o
[06:56] <m00nzter> on my desktop px
[06:56] <dein> what are you running right now then?
[06:56] <m00nzter> -x+c
[06:57] <m00nzter> nope
[06:57] <cromo> does anyone know what happend with the qtcurve? It disappeared from kde-look.org :O
[06:57] <Riddell> moopere: semi-official
[06:58] <dein> hmm dont know how to answer that moonzter
[06:58] <rolo> how can i install gparted to the jubuntu live?
[06:58] <rolo> i meant kubuntu not jubu...
[06:59] <dein> ok another question from me
[06:59] <dein> im using the ubuntu azureus package
[06:59] <dein> it opens and everything, but it's extemely buggy
[07:00] <dein> for example i cant close status messages unless they auto-close themselves
[07:01] <mnytr> back again
[07:01] <defrysk> dein, its a bug of azureus , not ubuntu
[07:01] <dein> bah ok
[07:01] <defrysk> bahaha
[07:01] <dein> so everyone's got the same problem atm?
[07:01] <defrysk> ;p
[07:02] <jaims> hi
[07:02] <m00nzter> exit
[07:02] <dein> guess im stuck with bittorrent classic
[07:02] <kronoz> dein, #azuerus said it was a problem with the gtk version in dapper
[07:02] <defrysk> dein, I ran azureus from the download and has the same bug
[07:02] <kronoz> dein, use ktorrent :)
[07:02] <crimsun> kronoz: did they give more details?
[07:02] <remy> hi
[07:02] <defrysk> [[[[[ktorrent] ] ] ] ] ] 
[07:02] <dein> ktorrent seems slow to me for some reason
[07:02] <dein> really slow
[07:03] <defrysk> dein, get the latest its mutch better
[07:03] <remy> I try using firefox on dapper
[07:03] <dein> 2.0?
[07:03] <defrysk> dein, http://rapidshare.de/files/22170949/ktorrent_2.0beta1_i386.deb.html
[07:03] <remy> but libgtk2.0-0 is needed
[07:03] <defrysk> I use it and its superlightweight
[07:04] <dein> ill give it a try
[07:04] <dein> ive been tired of azureus being a resource hog for a long time
[07:04] <champy> Hello, chaps
[07:04] <defrysk> dein, thats why I switched
[07:04] <champy> !tar
[07:05] <dein> but so far nothing matches its download speed and ease of use
[07:05] <defrysk> dein, this ktorrent can run days and days on end
[07:05] <remy> and ligtk2.0-0 depends libgtk2.0-0-bin
[07:05] <defrysk> remy, what are you doing ?
[07:06] <remy> but libgtk2.0-0-bin depends libgtk2.0-0 >=2.8.0
[07:06] <remy> I need some help
[07:06] <jaims> and, have you been able to 'download and convert' the antip2p.txt at bluetack?
[07:06] <jaims> my ktorrent hangs when i try to do so
[07:07] <defrysk> remy, sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:07] <defrysk> try that
[07:07] <jaims> Im talking 'bout the ipblocking thing
[07:07] <mikmak> :/
[07:08] <defrysk> jaims, I did that and it requires patience to get the conversion done
[07:08] <jaims> aha
[07:08] <defrysk> as in time
[07:08] <jaims> is it necessary to get the ipblocking working?
[07:08] <defrysk> like compiling Oo
[07:08] <defrysk> jaims, no
[07:08] <champy> Hello, guys
[07:08] <jaims> :-)
[07:08] <defrysk> I dont use it
[07:08] <jaims> hi
[07:08] <jaims> I see
[07:09] <remy> it answer me that there is no package named firefox
[07:09] <defrysk> jaims, i did but it slowed down the downspeed
[07:09] <champy> Anyt ideas on this one? vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:09] <jaims> I don't like all these people beeng able to 'spy' ips
[07:09] <jaims> ya
[07:09] <dein> thanks defrysk, this ktorrent is much better
[07:09] <dein> its upnp actually works
[07:09] <defrysk> dein, enjoy :)
[07:09] <defrysk> dein, sure does :)
[07:09] <champy> Anyt ideas on this one? vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:10] <jaims> I am not downloading files all the time, after all, but i like feeling safe in this sense
[07:10] <jaims> if someone is collecting unfriendly ips, let's use the filters so we avoid them
[07:11] <luh> I'm getting somewhat annoyed by it
[07:11] <luh> i have still no x server running
[07:12] <DjDarkman> hy ,i have a serious problem ,azureus won`t run ,and I get erors like these in the cli http://pastebin.com/760165
[07:12] <DjDarkman> can someone tell me what`s wrong?
[07:12] <defrysk> DjDarkman, sunjava installed ?
[07:12] <DjDarkman> yes
[07:13] <defrysk> then I do not know :s
[07:13] <DjDarkman> and i have other problem ,i can`t install opera
[07:13] <DjDarkman> it says i don`t have xlibs installed
[07:13] <defrysk> DjDarkman, using automatix ?
[07:14] <DjDarkman> no
[07:14] <defrysk> good
[07:15] <jaims> champy, have u tried krdc?
[07:15] <defrysk> DjDarkman,  no clue
[07:15] <DjDarkman> i have installed Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0
[07:15] <Flame> How do I open a program with Wine?
[07:15] <jaims> I have not installed vncviewer; but I can access other systems through vnc with krdc
[07:16] <defrysk> DjDarkman, you are on kde ?
[07:16] <jorik> Flame, "wine program.exe"
[07:16] <jaims> using it after plain kubuntu installation works ok
[07:16] <DjDarkman> yes defrysk
[07:16] <defrysk> strange
[07:16] <robinsw> Apparently, I'm missing a shared library... how can I install this one? libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[07:17] <remy> defrysk, could you help me to find libgtk2.0-0 (=2.8.0)?
[07:17] <defrysk> robinsw, sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[07:17] <robinsw> defrysk... cheers, mate.
[07:17] <Flame> hm
[07:18] <robinsw> Defrysk:
[07:18] <robinsw> libstdc++5 is already the newest version.
[07:18] <robinsw> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:18] <robinsw> Trying to run vncviewer
[07:18] <Flame> I cant seem to get Wine to open any of these...so Im guessing its not the way Im trying to open them
[07:18] <Flame> How do I check if Wine is broken?
[07:18] <robinsw> But it's giving me the error message about libstdc
[07:18] <Flame> "broken" anyways
[07:18] <jaims> luh, do you have an ati card?
[07:18] <defrysk> remy, I have no clue what you did but i think you mixed repos
[07:20] <Flame> How do I...reinstall Wine?
[07:20] <defrysk> sudo apt-get remove wine ?
[07:20] <defrysk> then remove the .wine files
[07:20] <defrysk> then install it again
[07:20] <Flame> Remove the files by...?
[07:21] <jpatrick> sudo apt-get remove wine --purge
[07:21] <defrysk> rm -rf /home/<username>.wineblabla
[07:21] <Flame> and then I use...sudo apt-get install wine
[07:21] <Flame> Right?
[07:21] <defrysk> rm -rf /home/<username>/.wineblabla
[07:21] <defrysk> even
[07:21] <jpatrick> yes
[07:22] <jpatrick> defrysk: rm -rf ~/.wine*
[07:22] <Flame> How do I upgrade it? It says there are three not upgraded parts to it
[07:22] <robinsw> Guys guys guys! Anybody know how the hell I can run the vncviewer when I'm getting this error: ./vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:22] <defrysk> jpatrick, in a nutshell yup
[07:22] <defrysk> :)
[07:22] <Flame> sudo apt-get upgrade wine?
[07:22] <defrysk> Flame, install
[07:23] <Flame> So from a terminal...I would do...what?
[07:23] <robinsw> Anybody know how I can run the vncviewer when I'm getting this error: ./vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:23] <defrysk> sudo apt-get remove wine --purge
[07:23] <Davidosky> Anybody know how i can restore mine menu grub? i have installed Kubuntu and after some day i have installed winxp.
[07:24] <Flame> >.>
[07:24] <Flame> ok, then what?
[07:24] <jpatrick> robinsw: install libc6 ?
[07:24] <defrysk> rm -rf ~/.wine*
[07:24] <Flame> kk
[07:24] <Flame> did that
[07:24] <defrysk> sudo apt-get install wine
[07:25] <Flame> Ok
[07:25] <Bazzi> ensure to take the 0.9.14 package off the wine site and not dappers
[07:25] <defrysk> winecfg
[07:25] <robinsw> jpatrick, how's that done from term?
[07:25] <defrysk> en set it up
[07:25] <Flame> under the run command? Or the terminal?
[07:25] <defrysk> terminal
[07:25] <Flame> wine: creating configuration directory '/home/kumar/.wine'...
[07:25] <jpatrick> robinsw: sudo apt-get install libc6
[07:25] <Flame> Is what it gives me
[07:25] <defrysk> run command is for wusses
[07:26] <Flame> And its just...going >.>
[07:26] <robinsw> jpatrick, it's installed.
[07:26] <remy> defrysk, see it http://kubuntu-fr.pastebin.com/760195     it's the answer when i try launching firefox
[07:26] <defrysk> Flame, wine is also for wusses actually >;)
[07:26] <jpatrick> odd
[07:26] <Flame> ^^
[07:27] <Flame> Well, I cant find a version of either Stealthbot or SubSpace: Continuum to run off of anything except Windows :(
[07:27] <defrysk> remy, show me your sources.list
[07:27] <conor> !mp3
[07:27] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:27] <defrysk> in pastebin
[07:27] <robinsw> jpatrick, still doesn't work. :/
[07:27] <Flame> Ok I got the winecfg up
[07:27] <Flame> I add application?
[07:27] <jpatrick> robinsw: I dunno
[07:27] <defrysk> set the disks up and the cd stuff
[07:27] <robinsw> jpatrick, neither do I! =D
[07:27] <defrysk> whater
[07:27] <robinsw> lol
[07:28] <defrysk> set it to w2k
[07:28] <Flame> Right
[07:28] <MasterEvilAce> has anyone had ANY problems with KDE 3.5.3?
[07:28] <defrysk> thats it
[07:28] <defrysk> autosearch or something
[07:28] <Flame> And then under the terminal use wine ___.exe
[07:28] <Flame> ?
[07:28] <Davidosky> who know how i can restore menu grub?
[07:28] <defrysk> MasterEvilAce, no
[07:28] <Bazzi> MasterEvilAce, yes
[07:28] <MasterEvilAce> Bazzi: any examples?
[07:28] <defrysk> Flame, yes if it works it does when it does not it does not
[07:29] <Bazzi> MasterEvilAce: automount issues mainly
[07:29] <MasterEvilAce> ah, ok
[07:29] <defrysk> mount even
[07:29] <Flame> Whats the automount do?
[07:29] <Flame> or mount for that matter...>.>
[07:29] <defrysk> it mounts outo
[07:29] <defrysk> auto
[07:30] <remy> defrysk, see it http://kubuntu-fr.pastebin.com/760200
[07:30] <defrysk> Flame, insert a cd and it mounts....
[07:30] <Flame> Oooh
[07:30] <Flame> Well
[07:30] <defrysk> remy, you have everything commented out
[07:30] <Flame> What if I DL the program?
[07:31] <Flame> >.>
[07:31] <defrysk> remy, change http to ftp in your repo , should do the trick
[07:31] <bleaked> does anyone here use abcde?
[07:31] <remy> defrysk, ok
[07:31] <defrysk> and uncomment your needed repositories :)
[07:32] <remy> defrysk ,ok
[07:32] <defrysk> can someone put something about http/ftp in repos in the topic please ?
[07:32] <defrysk> http seems to fail
[07:33] <luh> jaims, nope - a sis graphics card
[07:33] <robinsw> Anybody know why I'm getting the error vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory when trying to run VNC Viewer?
[07:33] <robinsw> Says that the library is installed when I try to install it
[07:33] <robinsw> :/
[07:33] <slow-motion> re
[07:34] <Flame> Defrysk: What do I do if I just Dled the program..?
[07:34] <Flame> Should I burn it to a disk and mount the disk?
[07:34] <Flame> Would it be easier to work it that way?
[07:34] <jaims> robinsw, have you tried the krdc app?
[07:34] <Bazzi> robinsw: broken symlink maybe?
[07:34] <defrysk> Flame, ?
[07:35] <robinsw> krdc, eh?
[07:35] <robinsw> How's this work?
[07:35] <jaims> yeah
[07:35] <Bazzi> robinsw: what does a libstdc++-libc6 search result in?
[07:35] <jaims> applications menu/internet/krdc
[07:35] <jaims> I use it to get way to another desktop via vnc
[07:35] <defrysk> Flame, http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl8_automou.htm
[07:36] <Flame> oooh../clicks
[07:39] <docta_v> i'm using ati big desktop...after upgrading to dapper i can no longer use both monitors in kde
[07:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> halo?!
[07:40] <docta_v> when kdm is up before i login, i can move my mouse between both screens but once kde launches i'm stuck on just the left screen
[07:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !xgl
[07:40] <ubotu> xgl is, like, totally, "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[07:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !dapper
[07:41] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[07:41] <flavioribeiro> anyone can answer me if the kubuntu6.06 dapper its bigger than 700mb?
[07:42] <MasterEvilAce> i just d/led from site like an hour ago
[07:42] <moopere> flavioribeiro: the cd image u mean?
[07:42] <MasterEvilAce> it's 696mb
[07:42] <flavioribeiro> yes!
[07:43] <moopere> flavioribeiro: its definately <=700Mb or it wouldn't fit on a std 700mb cd media
[07:43] <remy> defrysk, done and fetch updates too
[07:43] <remy> defrysk, i have founf libgtk2.0-0
[07:43] <defrysk> remy, good :)
[07:43] <remy> defrysk, thanks for your help
[07:43] <defrysk> yw
[07:44] <remy> defrysk, now firefox runs
[07:44] <Flame> Hmm. I just realized...1 PM is not my ideal time to be fighting Kubuntu...
[07:44] <Flame> Lol
[07:44] <remy> defrysk, thanks and bye
[07:44] <defrysk> remy, enjoy
[07:47] <Flame> If I DL a package...and install a program with it
[07:47] <Flame> How do I get it listed under the tabs?
[07:48] <jaims> bye
[07:48] <Flame> Like if I install FireFox, how do I get it listed under the Internet tab?
[07:48] <robinsw> !bin
[07:48] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, robinsw
[07:48] <robinsw> Help! Downloaded a .bin file and need to install it
[07:49] <Flame> After I install FireFox, how do I get it listed under the Internet tab?
[07:49] <robinsw> Help! Downloaded a .bin file and need to install it
[07:49] <seth> Flame, why are you not just installing Firefox from the repository?
[07:50] <Flame> Umm...I dunno, I should have.
[07:50] <Flame> But I didnt.
[07:50] <Flame> Lol
[07:50] <seth> so uninstall
[07:50] <seth> and reinstall from the repo
[07:50] <seth> and you get an icon for it
[07:50] <Flame> And then itll add it?
[07:50] <Flame> :O!
[07:50] <Flame> kk
[07:51] <robinsw> Help! Downloaded a .bin file and need to install it. It's the JRE.
[07:51] <seth> robinsw, the JRE is available in the repositories
[07:51] <robinsw> seth... thanks
[07:52] <seth> you need to enable the Multiverse repository, robinsw
[07:52] <seth> then install package sun-java5-bin
[07:52] <docta_v> i'm having this exact problem with kubuntu and BigDesktop: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173986 ... anyone have any ideas?
[07:53] <robinsw> seth: how do I enable that repository?
[07:53] <seth> robinsw, open Konsole and type:
[07:53] <seth> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:54] <Flame> Seth?
[07:54] <seth> robinsw, input your password, then find lines beginning with # that talk about Multiverse
[07:54] <Flame> I reinstalled thru the repo...thru Adept. And still nothing.
[07:54] <seth> robinsw, remove the #
[07:54] <seth> Flame, should be in K Menu > Internet. That's where mine is
[07:54] <_Pete_> seth: you have some serious problems teaching newbies, correct line would be: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:54] <_Pete_> :)
[07:54] <conor> http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/2885/snapshot16lt.png im trying to get mp3s working should i have anything else installed
[07:54] <Flame> Seth: Right. But...its not :O
[07:54] <Flame> >.<
[07:55] <_Pete_> when the user has found out the way out from vi
[07:55] <_Pete_> he/she is ready for everything :)
[07:55] <seth> _Pete_, you're not on my ignore list, cheers
[07:55] <seth> not = now
[07:55] <Flame> Heh
[07:56] <robinsw> seth: How do I save the config file when done? And do I need to relog?
[07:56] <seth> Flame, have you tried restarting KDE? I don't see why that would help, but it's worth a shot
[07:56] <seth> robinsw, you do not need to re-login. Just click File, Save
[07:56] <Flame> Hmm
[07:56] <crimsun> Flame: not sure if you answered my question.
[07:56] <seth> robinsw, then in Adept, click the Fetch Updates button
[07:56] <Flame> Seth: How do I restart KDE without rebooting the whole bit? Or do I have to reboot as a whole?
[07:56] <Flame> Crim: ?
[07:57] <crimsun> Flame: weren't you having problems installing lynx?
[07:57] <seth> Flame, you need only to log out. Rebooting is not needed :)
[07:57] <defrysk> Flame, ctrl alt backspace
[07:57] <robinsw> seth... can't see a fetch updates button. :/
[07:57] <Flame> Crim: No no, my issue was that NOTHING would update. Defrysk got me to change to ftp and now it all updates ^_^
[07:57] <crimsun> Flame: k
[07:58] <robinsw> Ah...
[07:58] <robinsw> Hang on, think I've found it
[07:58] <seth> robinsw, it should be the very first icon I think? looks like recycle arrows?
[07:58] <defrysk> crimsun, could you put something about that in the topic ?
[07:58] <robinsw> Yup
[07:58] <robinsw> Got it
[07:58] <crimsun> defrysk: what's the issue?
[07:58] <defrysk> the http/ftp stuf
[07:58] <robinsw> I was using Add/Remove Programs.
[07:58] <seth> no worries, the icons are the same
[07:58] <defrysk> many people cannot use their repos unles they swith them to ftp
[07:58] <Flame> Yay! Its added now thanks :)
[07:58] <seth> Flame, cheers
[07:58] <seth> have a good time
[07:59] <crimsun> defrysk: meaning archive.u.c or a mirror?
[07:59] <defrysk> uk had it , se had it an someone else had it too
[07:59] <Flame> Curious...whats good uptime from a box running Kubuntu compared to one on XP?
[07:59] <defrysk> forgot the cc
[07:59] <defrysk> Flame, 3 months to 3 days ?
[08:00] <Flame> O.o
[08:00] <Flame> This might be useful for leaving on then...^^
[08:00] <_Pete_> defrysk: it's pretty much depends what you use the machine for
[08:00] <seth> I regularly keep my Kubuntu box up for months
[08:00] <Flame> O.o
[08:00] <defrysk> _Pete_, when do you need to reboot then ?
[08:00] <seth> Kernel updates are the only thing you really need to reboot for, Flame
[08:00] <_Pete_> in linux generally: installing new HW / kernel
[08:01] <Flame> Ahh...so how often are those?
[08:01] <_Pete_> in windows generally: Installing some programs
[08:01] <defrysk> _Pete_, new kernel does nod need a reboot unles you wish to use it
[08:01] <_Pete_> that's right
[08:01] <defrysk> nod = not
[08:01] <_Pete_> but I guess you don't install it unless you want to use it
[08:02] <defrysk> so I did not nod
[08:02] <mongey> any help
[08:02] <Flame> Gyah...I was battling WIne, and I gave up and deleted the folders.
[08:02] <Flame> Voila...now it recognized the prog
[08:02] <Flame> and the files are gone
[08:02] <Flame> ./Sigh
[08:02] <defrysk> _Pete_, in the absolute sense there is hardle ever a reason one needs to reboot , thats my point
[08:02] <defrysk> Flame, forget wine use open source
[08:03] <_Pete_> defrysk: well I think you can sturggle with Linux longer not to boot than with windows
[08:03] <Flame> ..>.>?
[08:03] <_Pete_> if you really want to
[08:03] <defrysk> _Pete_, absolutely agree
[08:03] <Flame> Open source?
[08:03] <defrysk> !open source
[08:03] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defrysk
[08:04] <defrysk> Flame, ubuntu = open source
[08:04] <korozion> is it possible to have a kubuntu livecd, install updates etc, install programs, save all that to either hd or usbkey and be able to load those same settings upon next boot?
[08:04] <jorik> heh, now that im thinking about it, i dont think kubuntu ever asked me to reboot
[08:04] <defrysk> linux is opensource
[08:04] <_Pete_> speaking of uptime, I heard a rumor one guy here in FInland moving from flat to another
[08:04] <_Pete_> he had he's uptime machine connected to the UPS while moving
[08:04] <_Pete_> so no need to reboot :)
[08:04] <defrysk> hehe
[08:05] <jorik> hehehe
[08:05] <dergringo> how can I enhance my amarok to play ogg files?
[08:05] <mongey> its default
[08:05] <defrysk> derek__, it plays ogg by default
[08:05] <mongey> how can I enhance my amarok to play mp3 files?
[08:05] <defrysk> supid autocomplete
[08:05] <mongey> :P
[08:05] <defrysk> !mp3
[08:05] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:06] <defrysk> read it and apply it
[08:06] <Flame> oooh kk
[08:06] <mongey> i have i think
[08:06] <mongey> http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/2885/snapshot16lt.png im trying to get mp3s working should i have anything else installed
[08:06] <mongey> ^^that and ill upload another thing
[08:07] <defrysk> mongey, http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch04s01.html
[08:07] <defrysk> also useful
[08:08] <dergringo> !ogg
[08:08] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dergringo
[08:12] <jorik> aight this has got to be the weirdest bug ive ever seen : http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/760287
[08:13] <jorik> you'd think QA would catch this
[08:13] <seth> jorik, N is default... I think the english says "the default is to keep your version"
[08:14] <mongey> what the hell its not working
[08:14] <admiral_proFTW> does any one else have a debian folder in their K menu? I can't figure out how to edit it
[08:14] <robinsw> Anybody know how to install files that end .bin?
[08:14] <robinsw> !bin
[08:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, robinsw
[08:14] <seth> robinsw, are you still trying to install java from a bin?
[08:14] <RadiantFire> robinsw: ./<file>.bin
[08:15] <tristanmike> ./file.bin ?
[08:15] <korozion> chmod +x file.bin && ./file.bin
[08:15] <korozion> perhaps don't need the chmod +x
[08:15] <admiral_proFTW> robinsw, why dont you use automatix?
[08:15] <jorik> line 5 says: Y or N does blah blah, line 6 says: N or O does blah blah. it might still be decypherable but it's still very very very confusing
[08:15] <robinsw> seth... :)
[08:15] <tristanmike> robinsw: or easyubuntu ?
[08:15] <robinsw> seth, can't find JRE in the repositories?
[08:15] <andrisp> hi all, can you recomend me a front-end for iptables for kde ?
[08:16] <seth> robinsw, it's called sun-java5-bin iirc
[08:16] <robinsw> Cheers.
[08:16] <seth> jorik, ah, I see. Probably a translation bug :) the english version says "Y or I"
[08:16] <seth> if you file a bug, a dapper-updates package can be released shortly, most likely
[08:17] <jorik> yeah the dutch translation is really only so so, im thinking of just ditching it and going with the english one
[08:21] <marian> hi does anyone know's another webadministration-tool but webmin?
[08:23] <Flame> Hi.
[08:23] <Flame> Is there a games tab?
[08:23] <defrysk> yes
[08:23] <Flame> :O
[08:23] <Flame> Where?!
[08:23] <defrysk> sudo apt-get install kdegames
[08:23] <defrysk> there ;p
[08:23] <Flame> Ahhhh
[08:23] <Flame> And then ctrl-alt-backspace and re-enter and itll be there? :O
[08:24] <defrysk> Flame, nope
[08:24] <defrysk> it wil appear automagicly
[08:24] <Flame> Oooh
[08:24] <defrysk> kautomagic even ;p
[08:24] <Flame> I thought you were going to say "No. GOOD LUCK"
[08:24] <Flame> :P
[08:24] <Flame> Any OTHER fun kde packages...?
[08:24] <Flame> That KDE was too kind to mention?
[08:24] <Flame> Lol
[08:25] <defrysk> isnt kdegames not installed by default ?
[08:25] <defrysk> anyway....
[08:25] <Flame> Apparently not
[08:25] <mongey> anyone wanna help me
[08:25] <Flame> Is there a  list somewhere?
[08:25] <Flame> of all the metapackages?
[08:25] <mongey> oh nvm
[08:25] <defrysk> mongey, only when asking a question anyone wil help
[08:26] <mongey> well i was thinkin of remoteassistance
[08:26] <defrysk> anyone?
[08:26] <defrysk> !anyone
[08:26] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[08:27] <CaBlGuY> ok, my java aint workin...
[08:27] <CaBlGuY> :/
[08:27] <mongey> someone that wont mess with me and is willing to help want to help me?
[08:27] <mongey> better?
[08:27] <defrysk> tsss
[08:27] <defrysk> no you need to ask a question
[08:27] <mongey> well
[08:27] <mongey> i need to get mp3's to play
[08:27] <mongey> but im doing something wrong that i cant see
[08:27] <CaBlGuY> so the command would be, apt-get install Java or Java-run-time    yes??
[08:28] <CaBlGuY> !java
[08:28] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:29] <defrysk> CaBlGuY, apt-cache search jave and you'll get your answer
[08:29] <defrysk> CaBlGuY, apt-cache search java that is
[08:29] <Flame> Hehe
[08:29] <defrysk> grep jre
[08:30] <CaBlGuY> defrysk:  k..  I found it on the wiki to.  ;)
[08:30] <geburah> hi
[08:31] <defrysk> mongey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f06eb8f6a8cbb1ed38dd019b7dde9f0f7bb26160
[08:32] <geburah> does anyone now if is there a channel for kubuntu on ppc?
[08:32] <defrysk> mongey so sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs libk3b2-mp3
[08:34] <mongey> defrysk: didnt work
[08:34] <mencey> buenas
[08:34] <defrysk> mongey, what are you using to play mp3 ?
[08:35] <mongey> amarok
[08:36] <defrysk> mongey, set amarok to xine engine
[08:36] <mongey> by?
[08:36] <defrysk> a sec
[08:36] <mongey> ty
[08:37] <jorik> uhm
[08:37] <jorik> ok
[08:37] <defrysk> mongey, in amarok : setting > configure amarok > engine soundsystem to xine engine
[08:37] <jorik> im freakin a little right about now; i did a dist-upgrade and it downloaded allll the things i needed and started unpacking them and stuff and went on and on and on and then it stopped with an error
[08:37] <geburah> tahnks for your help
[08:38] <RadiantFire> jorik: what error?
[08:38] <mongey> it is
[08:38] <defrysk> mongey, it is what ?
[08:38] <jorik> it says it found an error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.0_5.0.21-3ubuntu1_i386.deb (error: subprocess dpkg returned an error code (1))
[08:39] <RadiantFire> mmm, dpkg -r mysql-server-5.0 and then dist-upgrade
[08:39] <RadiantFire> again
[08:39] <RadiantFire> when your done just reinstall mysql
[08:39] <RadiantFire> i had that problem once with cups-pdf and my system turned out fine
[08:39] <jorik> oh ok
[08:40] <mongey> its already xine engine
[08:40] <jorik> oh no
[08:40] <jorik> i see the problem
[08:40] <defrysk> mongey then it should play mp3's after restarting amarok
[08:40] <jorik> it's because / is full
[08:41] <defrysk> mongey, that means rightclick the docked icon of amarok and do quit
[08:41] <defrysk> and then restart it
[08:41] <vio> hi
[08:41] <mongey> i did
[08:41] <mongey> same still
[08:42] <vio> anyone got a step-by-step guide howto intall the nvidia gfx drivers?
[08:42] <vio> i found a howto in the wiki but thats for ubuntu only
[08:42] <defrysk> what message doe you get ?
[08:42] <dergringo> !mp3
[08:42] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:42] <defrysk> mongey ?
[08:42] <mongey> nuthing
[08:42] <jorik> is there anything i can do to clear out more space ? how do i delete all the debs on my system ?
[08:42] <defrysk> wel is also no bar or timer running or whatever ?
[08:43] <mongey> it just goes throught the songs for .5 of a second with no sound
[08:43] <defrysk> mongey, check if the soundlevels are up
[08:43] <koroded> Does anyone have a working dual-headed video card config they'd like to share?  I've lost my old one, and I can't seem to make it work again
[08:43] <mongey> i can [lay flac and ogg
[08:43] <koroded> it's one card with two vga-outs
[08:43] <crimsun> mongey: dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^ii
[08:44] <mongey> crimsun: what do i put that into
[08:44] <crimsun> mongey: konsole
[08:44] <crimsun> mongey: and tell us the output
[08:44] <mongey> dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^iiconor@conor-desktop:~$ dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^ii
[08:44] <mongey> conor@conor-desktop:~$ dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^ii
[08:44] <mongey> conor@conor-desktop:~$ dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^ii
[08:44] <mongey> conor@conor-desktop:~$
[08:44] <mongey> nuthin
[08:44] <defrysk> mongey, I told you to install them
[08:45] <mongey> i did
[08:45] <defrysk> why did you not do that ?
[08:45] <mongey> i  thhought
[08:45] <defrysk> :s
[08:45] <MehAdult> What command can I use to edit my partitions?
[08:46] <jorik> okay, starting to freak. every QT app i run gives an error and just shuts down and my / partition is 100% full
[08:46] <defrysk> MehAdult, sudo nano -w /path/to/whateva
[08:47] <MehAdult> I mean like partition management, not file management.
[08:47] <MehAdult> Like resizing partitions, etc.
[08:47] <mongey> defrysk: i get this when i do the thing u told me
[08:47] <mongey> the first thing
[08:47] <mongey> conor@conor-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs libk3b2-mp3
[08:47] <mongey> Password:
[08:47] <mongey> Reading package lists... Done
[08:47] <mongey> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:47] <mongey> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:47] <mongey> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:47] <mongey> is only available from another source
[08:47] <mongey> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[08:48] <crimsun> !tell mongey about repos
[08:48] <MehAdult> mongey: Also you could use pastebin.com instead of flooding the channel.
[08:48] <mongey> my bad
[08:49] <MehAdult> Anyone got any ideas on how to resize partitions, mount them, etc?
[08:49] <MehAdult> Like a nice tool CLI or GUI based?
[08:50] <MehAdult> I KNOW how to mount stuff but I don't wanna play with that. I just wanna create a small VFAT partition.
[08:50] <MehAdult> Nevermind.
[08:51] <kronoz> !google gparted livecd
[08:51] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kronoz
[08:51] <v3ctor> kubuntu livecd has qtparted
[08:51] <kronoz> MehAdult: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:51] <v3ctor> at least dapper livecd does
[08:51] <kronoz> v3ctor: qtparted is ok, but gparted is better imo
[08:52] <korozion> crap
[08:52] <v3ctor> don't know...i only use fdisk
[08:59] <user-land> is Automatix or EasyUbuntu working with kubuntu ?
[09:00] <Snake> user-land: EasyUbuntu is
[09:00] <user-land> thanks. is the ati driver problematic ?
[09:00] <heinkel_111> hello...anyone familiar with using 2 MSN accounts at the same time with kopete here?
[09:00] <heinkel_111> can they use same port for connection?
[09:01] <defrysk> !automatix
[09:01] <ubotu> Automatix is a utility which helps install various codecs and applications which cannot be part of the default installation, also another utility is called EasyUbuntu, please join #automatix or #easyubuntu for more information
[09:01] <Snake> user-land: not that im aware of
[09:01] <Snake> defrysk: automatix is a piece
[09:02] <defrysk> Snake, I dont use automatix
[09:02] <defrysk> it ruins my box
[09:02] <Snake> defrysk: Thats a good thing ;)
[09:02] <adma> hi folks!
[09:02] <Chousuke> Automatix has supposedly been fixed nowadays.
[09:02] <Snake> So they claim
[09:02] <defrysk> Chousuke, I wouldnt toutch it
[09:02] <user-land> defrysk, what does it do to ruin your box ?
[09:02] <Snake> Ill stick with tried and true automatix
[09:02] <Chousuke> Snake: And apparently #ubuntu agrees, since ubotu's definition has been changed.
[09:02] <adma> have any of you got an idea how I can load my eq settings from winamp into xmms? what are the filenames and where are they located?
[09:02] <defrysk> user-land, dist-upgrades fail due to automatix
[09:03] <Chousuke> defrysk: when was the last time you actually tried it?
[09:03] <defrysk> automatix changes permissions unasked
[09:03] <Chousuke> Maybe I should go read the source code for automatix
[09:03] <defrysk> Chousuke, I'll never try it
[09:03] <Snake> Chousuke: apparently, but as I just said, i'm not going to hold a stick to it until EasyUbuntu is no longer in development.
[09:03] <Chousuke> I suppose that's okay.
[09:04] <Chousuke> Automatix may no longer deserve its bad reputation, but they really screwed up with the first versions.
[09:04] <user-land> distrowatch had a bad experience with EasyUbuntu:
[09:04] <user-land> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20060605#firstlook
[09:04] <Snake> Chousuke: its supposedly okay since arnieboy left and the auto-matix team took over
[09:04] <defrysk> Chousuke, automatix is a tool I'll never use
[09:05] <fatejudger> I can't seem to get the fglrx drivers working in Dapper now
[09:05] <fatejudger> I had it working before I formatted
[09:05] <fatejudger> which seems very strange to me
[09:05] <jbirdAngel> what does it mean to have a 6 month predicatable release cycle, what if for some reason there was nothing new to add, would it still do a new release
[09:05] <Snake> user-land: that was during Ubuntu Beta, easy ubuntu, nor ubuntu it self was done
[09:05] <neelypeel> heinkel_111: have you tried Konversation? I think it should be able to
[09:05] <Snake> jbirdAngel: theres always something to add :)
[09:05] <soon> Hi there folks ... Is there any point to using Ubuntu rather than Kubuntu? (I'm most familiar with KDE) ... like e.g. more packages available for Ubuntu??
[09:06] <Snake> soon: nope, just prefrence
[09:06] <jbirdAngel> Snake: okay thanks
[09:06] <heinkel_111> neelypeel:  i am here on konversation, what were you thinking of?
[09:06] <user-land> snake, the review is about the dapper release.
[09:06] <defrysk> jbirdAngel, open source never stops improving
[09:06] <kosh> ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde and they both use the same repository
[09:06] <kosh> it is just a matter of defaults on install
[09:06] <kosh> from kubuntu you can install anything in ubuntu and vice versa
[09:06] <defrysk> xubuntu also
[09:06] <jbirdAngel> defrysk: okay thanks :)
[09:06] <Snake> user-land: Ahhhh im sorry man, misread where he was talking about being a beta tester :)
[09:06] <neelypeel> Msg heinkel_111 Sorry, u said kopete...
[09:06] <defrysk> all use main
[09:06] <soon> okay - thanks !
[09:07] <heinkel_111> neelypeel: no problem :)
[09:07] <user-land> i am glad you give good advice here, snake, thanks.
[09:07] <soon> \me is leaving to re-install (upgrade to 6.06)
[09:07] <heinkel_111> neelypeel: or rather, the problem is still with kopete :P
[09:08] <Chousuke> Automatix is done in shell script :P
[09:08] <Snake> user-land: Odd @ that ATI driver.. it may have been his video card. When I try to run XGL, my drivers crash as well (but thats XGL)
[09:08] <neelypeel> Msg heinkel_111 Sure, can't help you, I don't use it!
[09:08] <fatejudger> has anyone successfully been able to use the new ATI binary guide to get fglrx working?
[09:08] <Chousuke> I suppose that works. EasyUbuntu uses Python I think.
[09:08] <Snake> Chousuke: correct
[09:08] <fatejudger> !ati
[09:08] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
[09:09] <user-land> do you know is the author of graveman still with the ubuntu project ? did he get employment ?
[09:09] <LeeJunFan> !tell me about restricted
[09:11] <stevekl> Does anyone happen to have any idea how much space dapper would take up if you didn't install Xorg?
[09:11] <LeeJunFan> libxine-extracodecs are no more? how can one play mp3's with dapper?
[09:11] <fatejudger> stevekl: check ubuntu server
[09:11] <Chousuke> Automatix doesn't seem to do anything dangerous.
[09:11] <user-land> server edition, stevekl ?
[09:11] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: it's there...
[09:12] <Snake> LeeJunFan: Check the restricted for dapper
[09:12] <neelypeel> Msg ubuntu hey, gnome boy! are u in Croy as in nr Glasgow??
[09:12] <Snake> (I assume thats what your on)
[09:12] <LeeJunFan> Snake: I am - Package `libxine-extracodecs' is not available.
[09:12] <LeeJunFan> from dpkg-query -p
[09:12] <Chris_H> hey guys, im a total linux newbie and i was wondering what people see as the best forum for total linux newbies?
[09:12] <Chousuke> it has a lot of useless use of cat though. :)
[09:12] <Snake> LeeJunFan: try apt-cache search?
[09:12] <user-land> thanks, chousuke.
[09:12] <stevekl> fatejudger: well where do I go to check that?
[09:12] <nixternal> !multiverse
[09:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[09:13] <nixternal> that is what you have to LeeJunFan
[09:13] <crazy_penguin> stevekl: beetwen 1 and 1,3 gb
[09:13] <user-land> chousuke, are you japanese ?
[09:13] <stevekl> crazy_penguin: Oh, that's not much at all.
[09:13] <Chousuke> user-land: no.
[09:13] <stevekl> Chris_H: I hate to offend anyone else but I don't think the ubuntu forums are a good if you want to *learn linux*, as in the actual workings and console commands
[09:13] <Chousuke> user-land: I do study Japanese though. With not much success. :P
[09:14] <crazy_penguin> stevekl: that's my servers default install i also add to it further packages not included in the default install so now it's 2gb
[09:14] <stevekl> crazy_penguin: Wow, that's alot less than I was expecting then
[09:14] <stevekl> 3 gigs is good enough then
[09:14] <user-land> so what does chousuke mean ?
[09:14] <Chris_H> stevek1: i agree, as most of what's said here is straight over my head, but i started out on linux and chose Kubuntu as my distro.  do you know of any good resources for my needs?
[09:14] <crazy_penguin> stevekl: my fully feature desktop is 4,5 gb packed withanything you can imagine
[09:15] <user-land> !easysource
[09:15] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:15] <Chousuke> user-land: I'm not sure. It's just a name :P
[09:15] <user-land> ah.
[09:16] <Chris_H> stevek1: you were all linux newbies once, where did you all learn linux?
[09:16] <stevekl> crazy_penguin: Yeah my two machines that DO have desktops installed hover around 4.5 gigs
[09:16] <crazy_penguin> Cris_H: 6almost seven years on slackware without internet connection
[09:17] <kosh> Chris_H: I was a newbie about 10 years ago and mostly I learned on slackware at a university writing software for my physics classes
[09:17] <v3ctor> crazy_penguin: amen brother
[09:17] <crazy_penguin> so i'm now newbie in networking :)
[09:17] <kosh> slackware sure was nice at the time
[09:18] <guillaume_> hello
[09:18] <v3ctor> still is nice
[09:18] <kosh> and as far as getting the simulation stuff done it beat the windows systems around at the time hands down
[09:18] <Chris_H> thanks for your help. basically, all i want to do is be able to send files to and from my (new-founded) Linux PC in my room, from this Windows PC. i know that requires networking of some sort, but im guessing i'd need to learn more about linux first
[09:18] <v3ctor> but into using more than maintaining nowadays
[09:18] <kosh> windows 95 SUCKS at planetary atsmopheric simulations :)
[09:18] <stevekl> Chris_H: You'll want to look at samba for sharing files between windows and linux
[09:19] <stevekl> And, this is an unpopular opinion, but I think samba is great for networking two linux boxes, even :)
[09:19] <jorik> stevekl, blasphemy !
[09:19] <kosh> we do all of our file sharing between unix boxes with sftp
[09:19] <kosh> sftp is transparent in kde, already setup on every box, secure and easy to use
[09:19] <poimen> someone using dapper 64
[09:20] <stevekl> kosh: Well maybe...i've never used it
[09:20] <crazy_penguin> or shfs
[09:20] <kosh> stevekl: have you ever tried to use sftp://username@server  between your boxes?
[09:20] <jorik> kosh, i do the same thing ... sftp + kio (or fuse)
[09:20] <stevekl> kosh: no
[09:20] <kosh> you can use sftp in any kde app, konqueror, file open and close dialogs etc
[09:20] <stevekl> I have no idea what sftp us
[09:20] <stevekl> is
[09:20] <kosh> ftp over ssh pretty much
[09:20] <stevekl> huh, that's cool
[09:20] <kosh> encrypted, point to point, no setup required
[09:21] <crazy_penguin> stevekl: try shfs or midnight with fish module
[09:21] <stevekl> Can it stream stuff?
[09:21] <stevekl> Like, can I play a file in VLC that is on a remote machine (remote as in, on my LAN)
[09:21] <kosh> that is one thing it can't do yet
[09:21] <stevekl> Oh
[09:21] <kosh> with kde4 all the ioslaves will handle streaming
[09:21] <kosh> however I don't do streaming over the network, I do transfers of large files
[09:21] <kosh> like transfering a 4gb db from the server to my system for testing stuff
[09:22] <crazy_penguin> kosh: ddi you use the shfs module for the kernel?
[09:22] <kosh> crazy_penguin: I have not used that
[09:22] <crazy_penguin> err ddi/did
[09:22] <stevekl> kosh: I will look at it though
[09:22] <kosh> crazy_penguin: I just use the ioslaves for trasnfering stuff
[09:22] <crazy_penguin>  it seems no one tried it
[09:23] <crazy_penguin> i want to compare my experience with it. i think i found a huge security bug in it
[09:23] <v3ctor> i use them for ripping ogg from CDs
[09:23] <kosh> for network file stuff the only way I have done it other then the ioslaves is nfs
[09:24] <crazy_penguin> you can login into the root account on a ramote machine without beeing root
[09:24] <kosh> that is a major flaw then
[09:24] <kosh> nfs and ioslaves do not have that problem
[09:24] <stevekl> Well can you start by telling me why everyone hates samba?
[09:24] <kosh> it is a hack
[09:25] <crazy_penguin> perhaps because it's somewhat windows related
[09:25] <stevekl> I mean, i'm not a  big advocate of it, I just find it easier to use than NFS. Am I missing a horrible trait about samba?
[09:25] <kosh> also last I checked it was not great for unix file permissions
[09:25] <`Shan> can someone tell me a good place where i can get some good excercises to learn grep?
[09:25] <kosh> so you lose some security while using it compared to nfs
[09:25] <kosh> nfs is also a good deal faster under load
[09:25] <crazy_penguin> 'Shan: command line:P
[09:25] <stevekl> I don't consider it 'windows related'. Samba is linux software, written for linux. It just HAPPENS to have the ability to interface with windows
[09:25] <kosh> so if you need something secure and easy you have sftp, if you need something secure and scale a  lot more then nfs is better
[09:26] <kosh> I just don't see the place where samba fits in
[09:26] <v3ctor> stevekl: it was written to interface  with windows
[09:26] <crazy_penguin> 'Shan: sorry. look at the tldp.org site
[09:26] <stevekl> kosh: Well i'll try nfs again, it's been a looong time since I used it, but I remember it being sucky
[09:26] <crazy_penguin> 'Shan: :)
[09:26] <jorik> using samba on a linux only netwerk would be like using .doc files in a setting where everyone uses openoffice, it wouldn't be wrong, just weird
[09:26] <kosh> I have tried to setup samba stuff more then a few times however I had an easier time getting nfs working then samba
[09:26] <nixternal> `Shan: another place to look is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grep
[09:26] <kosh> I was having client computers mount /home and other stuff over the networked filesystem and that worked great with nfs
[09:26] <nixternal> they have a few little examples with links to other sites with more info though
[09:26] <kosh> you could login to any computer and your stuff is all there
[09:27] <sheldonc> kosh: how many thousands have samba shares at home? thats where it fits in
[09:27] <`Shan> thank you crazy_penguin and nixternal  .. i just wanted to brush up on redirectiosn and stuff
[09:27] <kosh> I don't know if you can mount /home with samba
[09:27] <stevekl> kosh: Infact I was trying to use nfs a long time ago, but while trying to mount it, it just hangs (on the client side)
[09:27] <kosh> I somehow doubt it
[09:27] <stevekl> but I was almost certainly doing something wrong
[09:27] <Pupeno_> I am trying to compile dsywindows, when I run autogen.sh I get the error "aclocal: configure.ac: 31: macro `AM_PROG_CC_C_O' not found in library", any ideas ?
[09:27] <stevekl> I'll read HOWTO and try again
[09:28] <nixternal> stevekl: i have had some issues with nfs too...samba works for me in the time being...but like you, i need to reread the how-to and get it working correctly
[09:28] <DjDarkman> hy ,can someone tell me what dvd writer program should I use to burn dvds with an usb lg super multy dvd writer?
[09:28] <kosh> sheldonc: I don't have any samba shares at home, the windows boxes we do have around do not have file and print sharing turned on at alll and there is no way I would turn those on
[09:28] <nixternal> as soon as i mount, it is over with...it just stalls
[09:28] <kosh> sheldonc: just too many security problems happen with that stuff even with an external firewall to proect the entire network
[09:29] <stevekl> nixternal: See, you know what i'm talking about. I'm not ashamed to say "nfs may be better, but it takes more work and understanding to use it, while samba is just easy for me"
[09:29] <stevekl> Sometimes easier is better
[09:30] <kosh> I think it depends on what you know and expect
[09:30] <keegan> make sure portmap is running When you mount nfs
[09:30] <kosh> I found nfs to be very easy to setup and get working
[09:30] <nixternal> same here stevekl...nfs might be better in some aspects, especially using it from a command line...but right now samba is easy and quick
[09:30] <kosh> keegan: you can do it without portmap and even have it use ssl
[09:30] <kosh> for really quick and easy I just find sftp is very hard to beat
[09:31] <v3ctor> kosh: agreed
[09:31] <kosh> I can open up kate and give it an sftp url to some config files on rackspace and just work with it and save it all transparently
[09:31] <kosh> very hard to beat that
[09:31] <MasterEvilAce> argh so much time spent messing with Adept installing/removing stuff.. I go to apply, and it errors
[09:31] <kosh> I would say that the ioslaves save me several weeks per year in terms of time
[09:31] <keegan> kosh: if i dont Have portmap running nfs stalls When i mount it
[09:32] <kosh> keegan: there are ways to do it without portmap, it is in the nfs howto
[09:32] <v3ctor> portmap is required if using rpc
[09:33] <raven> Hello there.
[09:33] <raven> Can someone help?
[09:33] <stevekl> Can someone point me into the direction that I need to install dapper on a machine without a monitor (using a serial cable, i've never done it and am confused as heck)
[09:33] <nixternal> whats up raven?
[09:33] <v3ctor> raven: not un til you clearly state your problem
[09:33] <raven> I will!
[09:34] <raven> kdesu doesn't work.
[09:34] <jorik> okay, i did the whole, "replace breezy by dapper and dist-upgrade" routine, but now i cant open any QT programs it seems
[09:34] <crazy_penguin> samba is secure enought to use it behind an fw?
[09:35] <crazy_penguin> connecting only internal systems beetwen them?
[09:35] <nixternal> stevekl: try http://docs.pld-linux.org/installer-serial.html
[09:35] <jorik> everything that was still open (one konsole) still works, should i just restart kde and hope for the best ?
[09:35] <nixternal> i know someone who has used that to install debian on a setup similar to yours
[09:35] <kosh> samba is supposed to be pretty secure, windows file and print sharing is not
[09:36] <nixternal> crazy_penguin: yes...for one...none of the windows machines can connect to my setup yet, thats how secure it is ;)  i just need to fix that though
[09:36] <kosh> since I don't need samba for unix to unix and I don't do unix to windows that way I don't have problems :)
[09:36] <kosh> well I am wandering off have fun
[09:36] <crazy_penguin> nixternal: lol. nor mine
[09:36] <nixternal> l8r kosh
[09:36] <crazy_penguin> thx
[09:36] <jbirdAngel> when using firefox its default homepage is a page about kubuntu with links to information about hwo to use it or what not, however the links are broken and the pages dont exist in that area, links are an html page for the wonderful world of linux, know where i can find this?
[09:37] <nixternal> i setup a NetBackup directory...and so far only my kubuntu boxes can see the shares and use them correctly...my windows machines ask for username and password
[09:37] <jbirdAngel> and is the person here who couldnt get their laptop mouse to stop clicking on tapping?
[09:37] <leagris> hello
[09:37] <defrysk>  jbirdAngel http://kubuntu.org/
[09:37] <nixternal> even when i set the directory to wide open no security...
[09:38] <stevekl> Damn, that little k3b burning notification thingie is astoundingly annoying
[09:38] <nixternal> lol
[09:38] <raven> :v3ctor
[09:38] <stevekl> and you can't turn it off while burning, and then you forget to next time, and it never goes away! ahh!
[09:38] <nixternal> the noises it makes annoys me
[09:38] <v3ctor> secrity = user, or security = share
[09:38] <v3ctor> raven: yes
[09:39] <nixternal> but k3b is the best burning utility i have ever used...it kills nero...which is what i used to swear by
[09:39] <stevekl> Yeah, you're right about that
[09:39] <leagris> since latest dapper update the LANG= env is not set within kde. What is the problem and how can I fix it? LANG env is correctly set up in text terminal console.
[09:39] <jbirdAngel> defrysk: i dont see the same thing there, but ig uess thats fine, but you did get me to look around there more and see some stuff i might read soemtime, thanks for the link
[09:39] <crazy_penguin> nixternal: but if i want to use it to connect a few machine beetwen the for file sharing only have to concern myself with security. i mentioning that i had isolated the external net(internet) from my local net and place beetwen them a firewall
[09:39] <ie> good evening ... so, i have just taken the plunge and used kubuntu for the first time and want to edit the menu.lst file. i know in ubuntu i would type sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst but what is the command in kubuntu please?
[09:40] <nixternal> v3ctor: i set it up for all users and guests...read & write & breakdance in the directory if they want...windows won't though...it is probably some small stupid setting im missing...but that is fine...since i don't use windows anyways
[09:40] <stevekl> ie: sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:40] <pekay> anyone can help me with Skype and sound?
[09:40] <nixternal> stevekl: beat me to that one
[09:40] <raven> v3ctor: Have you experience with a non-working kdesu?
[09:40] <stevekl> nixternal: hehe
[09:40] <nixternal> vim, nano, kate...you choose
[09:40] <ie> thanx stevekl
[09:40] <v3ctor> raven: no
[09:40] <stevekl> ie: You probably don't know how to use vim though heh
[09:40] <v3ctor> raven: i don't use kdesu
[09:41] <ie> no never used vim
[09:41] <nixternal> im a nano freak now...used to be a vi freak..until i wore the jklm keys out on my keyboard
[09:41] <stevekl> ie: so try kate instead if you can't figure it out. But justr for the future, LEARN TO USE VIM
[09:41] <stevekl> It's awesome
[09:41] <raven> v3ctor: What instead?
[09:41] <nixternal> ie: sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:41] <nixternal> kate is graphic if that is what you are used to
[09:42] <apokryphos> !kdesu
[09:42] <v3ctor> raven: i launch from teminal useing sudo or i use `run command` and use sudo there
[09:42] <crazy_penguin> nixterm: can you answer me for that earlier question. thank you
[09:42] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.
[09:42] <crazy_penguin> nixternal: can you answer me for that earlier question. thank you
[09:42] <keegan> use emacs (ducks)
[09:42] <nixternal> if you are behind a firewall crazy_penguin you will be fine
[09:42] <raven> v3ctor: Even this is calling error output! (If I call a desktop application)
[09:42] <v3ctor> but then again...i don't use many gui apps
[09:42] <defrysk> keegan, or Oo
[09:43] <nixternal> are you worried about people on the otherside of the firewall having access to your samba shares?
[09:43] <crazy_penguin> ok. thx nixternal sorry for beeing a bit forcefull. i'm hacking this sh** of samba
[09:43] <nixternal> lol
[09:43] <crazy_penguin> yes.
[09:43] <nixternal> i got lost there for a second
[09:43] <nixternal> if you are behind a firewall you have no worries
[09:43] <crazy_penguin> an all blocking fw
[09:43] <ie> sorry, whats the kdesu command? ... kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst ???
[09:43] <crazy_penguin> and that's the dmz zone
[09:44] <nixternal> then everything on the NAT side (inside the building of the firewall) will only have access
[09:44] <defrysk> ie, something like that
[09:44] <chx> is there a GNU grep for Ubuntu which is compiled with -P ? pcregrep is not that.
[09:44] <leagris> problem with kdm not passing the LANG= env variable to session. How can I fix this ?
[09:44] <raven> nixternal: Do you know whats' up when kdesu doesn't work?
[09:45] <nixternal> there are settings that can be set with samba that will only allow addresses on you subnet access..for instance like 192.168.1.* subnet
[09:45] <defrysk> raven, got kdeadmin installed ?
[09:45] <raven> defrysk: Why do you ask? (I look...)
[09:45] <defrysk> raven, cos you need it
[09:46] <crazy_penguin> nixternal: i wanted only to be sure i'm not missing something security bug with samba. yes i know that i can bind samba to specified addresses. thx for the info
[09:46] <nixternal> np crazy_penguin..you will be safe though
[09:47] <nixternal> i need to go through my samba configs and fix them all so they work correctly...mine are hacked just for basic use...i need a little more out of it though
[09:47] <palo> Is there any way to push updates to client kubuntu machines from a kubuntu/ubuntu server?
[09:47] <ie> anyone know the command to backup the menu.lst file before i make any amendments ... just in case :o)
[09:47] <raven> defrysk: Is there a fast console check command?
[09:48] <nixternal> sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst menu.lst.bak
[09:48] <ie> thanx a load
[09:48] <defrysk> raven, sudo apt-get install kdeadmin ?
[09:48] <nixternal> ie ^^
[09:48] <azathoth> whats a good multi-pane file manager?
[09:49] <defrysk> sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.bak
[09:49] <nixternal> konqueror ??
[09:49] <crazy_penguin> azathoth: mignight commander
[09:49] <chavo> azathoth, krusader
[09:49] <azathoth> can that be multi-pane?
[09:49] <defrysk> azathoth, krusader
[09:49] <seth> azathoth, krusader
[09:49] <azathoth> krusader wins, 3:1
[09:49] <nixternal> multipaned??  how many panes do you want?
[09:49] <azathoth> thanks
[09:49] <nixternal> lol azathoth
[09:49] <raven> defrysk: It did it without messages within one second...
[09:49] <defrysk> mgnight commander is the russian version of mc ?
[09:49] <chavo> you can make konq multipane yeah, ctrl-shift-L
[09:50] <crazy_penguin> it's mc
[09:50] <nixternal> i use kde native...it seems to work when it ain't broke ;)
[09:50] <nixternal> haha
[09:50] <nixternal> ok...gotta fold some laundry...bbiaf
[09:51] <raven> HELP PLS!
[09:52] <ie> thanx for the help with menu.lst guyz!
[09:52] <ie> rebbot now and see if it works
[09:53] <defrysk> raven , got more then one account or someting ?
[09:54] <darx> greetings;
[09:54] <palo> Is there any way to push updates to client kubuntu machines from a kubuntu/ubuntu server?
[09:54] <raven> defrysk: I somehow "recovered" the root account with seperate pw
[09:54] <defrysk> raven, might be a permission issue then
[09:55] <raven> Sure.
[09:55] <darx> How can i enable multimedia support for konqueror? I mean most of the audio and video formats..
[09:55] <raven> How to analyze?
[09:55] <defrysk> raven, dunno
[09:55] <raven> defrysk: What?
[09:56] <defrysk> raven open kuser and check your userproperties
[09:57] <darx> anybody care to help out a noob?
[09:57] <raven> defrysk: Then i get my error message again! (SU reported an error) [[Translated from german] ] 
[09:58] <defrysk> raven, you messed up your permissions then
[09:58] <defrysk> you hav no wheel
[09:58] <raven> defrysk: What means that phrase?
[09:59] <defrysk> it meens you cannot get root on your account
[09:59] <raven> defrysk: From console i can. But only on console binaries.
[10:00] <defrysk> raven, than you have something els messed up witch is beyond me
[10:01] <defrysk> raven, you need a pro for this I think
[10:01] <raven> defrysk: Where can I get one (free) ???
[10:01] <defrysk> lol
[10:02] <defrysk> I'll paste my group file for you so you can see my perms (cat /etc/group)
[10:03] <defrysk> raven http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/760555
[10:03] <defrysk> and compare it with yours
[10:04] <sheldonc> !seen blah
[10:04] <raven> defrysk: I do. (Will take some time)
[10:06] <defrysk> netsplitting here anyway ;p
[10:06] <stevekl> Cripes, i'm getting corrupt package warnings while installing dapper!
[10:06] <stevekl> I hope i'm not the only one having this problem
[10:06] <sheldonc> !restricted
[10:06] <defrysk> stevekl, you are
[10:06] <sheldonc> !restrictedformats
[10:06] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:06] <ubotu> somebody said restrictedformats was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:06] <stevekl> ARG
[10:06] <stevekl> This is so annoying
[10:06] <stevekl> what the hell :(
[10:07] <defrysk> stevekl, change http to ftp in repos and try again
[10:07] <ubuntu> hi people
[10:07] <visik7> I hope czessi will release a kopete 0.12.0 deb
[10:08] <stevekl> defrysk: It's getting corrupt packages off of the CD while installing, I mean
[10:08] <defrysk> stevekl, bad cd , bad burn
[10:08] <Electron> HI
[10:08] <defrysk> stevekl, burn cd a bit slower speed
[10:09] <fatejudger> visik7: I have a Kopete 0.12 deb if you want it
[10:09] <visik7> got from where ?
[10:09] <fatejudger> visik7: compiled from source
[10:09] <defrysk> visik7, I have that version ;p
[10:09] <Electron> So, someone could one's tell me an girls room?
[10:09] <defrysk> I got a link to that deb
[10:09] <defrysk> visik7, one sec
[10:10] <visik7> thanks
[10:10] <Electron> what?
[10:10] <remy> hi
[10:10] <stevekl> Feh, i'll just use the breezy install and then apt-get upgrade
[10:10] <visik7> try debian-women
[10:10] <stevekl> or dist-upgrade
[10:10] <Electron> so, visik7, do you know a girls channel?
[10:10] <defrysk> visik7, wget http://www.ubuntu-zh.org/~freeflying/packages/kopete_3.5.3kopete0.12.0-1_i386.deb
[10:10] <defrysk> visik7, have fun :)
[10:10] <remy> I have no sound on my kubuntu
[10:10] <remy> someone can help me?
[10:10] <azathoth> it's been a week now since i last booted into windows, i feel very happy about that...
[10:11] <defrysk> azathoth, good for you
[10:11] <azathoth> just wanted to let ya'll know...
[10:11] <azathoth> :)
[10:11] <defrysk> kicking the reboot habit :D
[10:11] <azathoth> yup... i finally have everything setup the way i want it and things are running pretty damn smoothly
[10:11] <nixternal> azathoth: it has been long for me too...but i will admit...i have winblows on vmware server
[10:12] <StR> Hi all!
[10:12] <jbirdAngel> hello
[10:12] <azathoth> i don't have any real need to go back to it
[10:12] <azathoth> the only app i was worried about losing was utorrent, but ktorrent has filled the gap in nicely
[10:12] <fatejudger> ktorrent is awesome
[10:12] <james_xxx> crimsun: are you there?
[10:13] <azathoth> my only trouble is that both of my main discs where all my media is stored, are in ntfs
[10:13] <yonkeltron> will new versions of firefox be apt-gettable in the future?
[10:13] <defrysk> 2.01
[10:13] <yonkeltron> also, where do i file a bug regarding suspend-to-ram on my laptop
[10:13] <defrysk> yonkeltron, only security updates
[10:13] <azathoth> and i really doubt there is a safe ntfs -> ext3/reiser/zfs convertor out there
[10:13] <_phreak> Anyone use Automatrix for AMD64 right now? i'm getting a 404 when i try to wget it
[10:15] <remy> defrysk, could you help me for my sound please?
[10:15] <skript> any1 missing some gnome icons in kubuntu menus (dapper) ?
[10:15] <defrysk> remy, not really , I have to go soon
[10:15] <jorik> yay im running dapper ! ;-) one little problem tho: when i hover an mp3 in konqi it no longer works (ogg's are still fine)
[10:15] <remy> ok
[10:15] <remy> defrysk, a next time maybe
[10:16] <remy> defrysk, tchao
[10:16] <defrysk> jorik, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f06eb8f6a8cbb1ed38dd019b7dde9f0f7bb26160
[10:16] <crimsun> james_xxx: semi.
[10:17] <Ariel_> hello everyone
[10:17] <yonkeltron> defrysk: does that include 1.5.0.4 because 0.3 keeps crashing like a bad date.
[10:17] <yonkeltron> azathoth: any news of xfs in the kernel?
[10:17] <leagris> filled a bug about LANG not exported by kdm: fixed the LANG env not passed to kdm. Edited /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc and added ExportList=LANG in [General]  section. Why is this needed/missing? Should I file a bug?
[10:17] <defrysk> yonkeltron, forgot what I said to you ?
[10:17] <azathoth> anyone have a vague idea when kde4 will be released?
[10:18] <yonkeltron> azathoth: zfs rather?
[10:18] <leagris> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/48576/+index
[10:18] <defrysk> azathoth, this year
[10:18] <azathoth> no news yet, but it'll be pretty soon...
[10:18] <james_xxx> crimsun: if you are busy i can catch you at a later time, but... the issue with my  3D graphics is still ongoing. i did download the linux driver for my graphics card last night from intel... do you think there is any chance that installing the driver might help? it seems there are so many things that could have caused this. i may just do a fresh install this evening if nothing else works.
[10:18] <azathoth> defrysk: q3? q4?
[10:18] <Ariel_> any way to get the kubuntu onto a standard ubuntu setup. I have the gnome... but the desktop is already setup.
[10:18] <defrysk> azathoth, kde4
[10:19] <yonkeltron> defrysk: well the reason i asked for specifics is because 1.5.0.4 *is* a security release
[10:19] <azathoth> no, i mean third quarter, fourth quarter
[10:19] <defrysk> yonkeltron, I have no crashes on ff here
[10:19] <jorik> oh and another thing, i remember being told to apt-get certain (meta) packages after upgrading just to make sure, i already did kubuntu-desktop (it downloaded an additional 80 megs) but i forgot the names of the other ones, ... some help ? :p
[10:19] <yonkeltron> defrysk: lucky
[10:19] <defrysk> yonkeltron, proper set up
[10:19] <crimsun> james_xxx: I'm not familiar w/ the Intel driver from their Web site, sorry
[10:20] <leagris> Ariel_, uninstalling kdebase and installing ubuntu-desktop should do it.
[10:20] <azathoth> i still don't understand why it is so tough to keep firefox updated in the repos...
[10:20] <crimsun> james_xxx: (as in I know it exists but have not configured it)
[10:20] <yonkeltron> defrysk: i have a proper setup. think it could be an extension?
[10:20] <Ariel_> leagris, no I want to put the kde into a standard ubuntu I don't like the gnome setup
[10:20] <defrysk> yonkeltron, likely extensions are made by good willing people
[10:20] <james_xxx> crimsun: another question i have had... would it possibly do any good to uninstall KDE and reinstall it?
[10:20] <yonkeltron> defrysk: yes but they could cause crashes
[10:21] <defrysk> but often not by experts
[10:21] <james_xxx> crimsun: i would actually like to go back to 3.5.2 anyways
[10:21] <leagris> Ariel_, so install kubuntu-desktop package
[10:21] <Ariel_> how
[10:22] <crimsun> james_xxx: you /could/ revert to 3.5.2, but it might be more effort than it's worth
[10:22] <james_xxx> crimsun: it is sounding like my best option is reinstalling kubuntu then....
[10:23] <defrysk> james_xxx, what your prob with 3.5.3 ?
[10:24] <james_xxx> defrysk: at this point in time , i am not sure. it did cause my screen savers to quit working, and it may have caused some other conflicts. however, i am not mecessarily associating the bigger graphics problem i am having with 3.5.3
[10:24] <james_xxx> necessarily*
[10:24] <defrysk> james_xxx, that is too bad
[10:26] <james_xxx> defrysk: i have talked to a few others in here who had a few issues with 3.5.3.... i have no idea how wide-spread the problem is. i understand that the issue is likely in k/ubuntu's packaging of 3.5.3, not with 3.5.3 itself.
[10:26] <james_xxx> i am sure that answers nothing at all lol
[10:27] <defrysk> james_xxx, maybe some updates wil be in the kubuntu-repo soon then ?
[10:27] <james_xxx> defrysk: i am guessing that a few updates are likely
[10:27] <defrysk> yes
[10:28] <james_xxx> defrysk: on this system, my 3D accelerated graphics are no longer working, and i have no idea why.
[10:29] <defrysk> well they work fine here (nvidia)
[10:29] <james_xxx> defrysk: mine worked fine until yesterday. i have an intel
[10:29] <james_xxx> defrysk: have you upgraded to 3.5.3?
[10:30] <defrysk> yes
[10:30] <james_xxx> do your screen savers work?
[10:30] <defrysk> also amarok latest and koffice latest
[10:30] <defrysk> yes they do (gl) ones
[10:30] <defrysk> but not all
[10:30] <defrysk> sec row gl dont do shit
[10:30] <james_xxx> defrysk: i was unable to use screen savers at all.
[10:31] <defrysk> but i have my ss off so no prob
[10:31] <defrysk> james_xxx, using kdm ?
[10:31] <schwach> how can I put the trash icon back onto the desktop - or do I not want to do this?
[10:31] <james_xxx> defrysk: yeah, i was willing to live without screen savers, but not with #D graphics
[10:31] <james_xxx> 3D*
[10:31] <defrysk> schwach, you dont want to do this
[10:32] <james_xxx> defrysk: yes, using kdm
[10:32] <james_xxx> not without 3D graphics*
[10:32] <defrysk> james_xxx, you could try using gdm , I heard another person with this issue using kdm
[10:32] <james_xxx> i have talked to a few others in here who had the same problem with screen savers
[10:33] <defrysk> the person i talked to switched back to gdm
[10:33] <james_xxx> defrysk: with the screen saver issue or with the accelerated 3D graphics issue?
[10:33] <Flame> hi
[10:33] <defrysk> james_xxx, with the direct rendering issue
[10:33] <james_xxx> wow
[10:33] <Flame> ./Sigh. Im back again. Lol
[10:34] <Flame> Another Adept and DL question.
[10:34] <defrysk> lol sigh
[10:34] <james_xxx> defrysk: how do i bring gdm up?
[10:34] <Flame> haha
[10:34] <defrysk> sudo apt-get install gdm
[10:34] <Flame> Namely...ok. I DL a file with Adept. Lets say something like...3ddesktop.
[10:34] <Flame> Because its near the top ^^
[10:34] <Flame> Now it Dls it
[10:34] <Flame> And installs it.
[10:34] <Flame> Where the heck IS it?
[10:34] <Flame> I guess what Im asking is...how do I use the file?
[10:34] <james_xxx> defrysk: i should already have it. i had ubuntu breezy on here at first... then switched to kubuntu breezy, then dapper
[10:34] <defrysk> Flame, gone up in flames
[10:35] <james_xxx> defrysk: so how do i start gdm?
[10:35] <Flame> >.>
[10:35] <Flame> With my luck...maybe. Lol.
[10:35] <CaBlGuY> ok, what codecs I need to play DVD's?
[10:35] <CaBlGuY> !DVD
[10:35] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[10:36] <Flame> O.o
[10:36] <Flame> Grr...
[10:36] <me2win> !dance
[10:36] <ubotu> me2win: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:36] <me2win> !botsnack
[10:36] <ubotu> :)
[10:36] <Flame> I cant find where the progs go! >>
[10:36] <Flame> How do I run them?
[10:36] <Flame> Lol
[10:36] <Flame> Im being wtfpwnt by a few line-long program /sigh.
[10:37] <pekay> anyone can help with Skype here? :[
[10:37] <linuxmonkey> flame you installed some progs and dont know were they are?
[10:37] <pekay> i have tried to for hours to get this sound to work...
[10:37] <linuxmonkey> pekay: i got to install it myself
[10:37] <Flame> Yes
[10:37] <Flame> Theyre...gone?
[10:37] <pekay> linuxmonkey: it installs fine, but the sound!
[10:37] <defrysk> james_xxx, /etc/sysconfig/ DESKTOP="KDE"
[10:37] <defrysk> DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE"
[10:37] <Flame> Actually, amend that. I dont CARE where they are...I just want them to run.
[10:37] <Flame> And I have no idea how to
[10:38] <pekay> !skype
[10:38] <ubotu> skype is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[10:38] <pekay> >.>
[10:38] <linuxmonkey> flame what program
[10:38] <raven> defrysk: Your file contains an error. --> admin:x:112:defrysk is conatining an space char at the end of your username!
[10:38] <Flame> ANY that I dl...
[10:38] <Flame> Individually off of Adept.
[10:38] <pekay> linuxmonkey: you know how to get mic and output from recipient working?!
[10:38] <Flame> If I dl kdegames as a package
[10:38] <defrysk> oh geez
[10:38] <Flame> They get installedinto teh k menu and I can see them.
[10:38] <Flame> the*
[10:38] <linuxmonkey> pekay let me install it now and ill let ya know
[10:38] <CaBlGuY> well, THAT did'nt work..   :|
[10:38] <pekay> okay
[10:38] <Flame> If I pick something else...I get pwnt.
[10:39] <defrysk> nm
[10:40] <CaBlGuY> Oh well..  I'll fix it later.. :p
[10:40] <stevekl> epiphany: I hate linux
[10:40] <CaBlGuY> I finally gettin help Flame??
[10:40] <stevekl> Naw it's ok :)
[10:41] <Flame> Lol yeah I got most stuff workng...although I cant open individual progs I DL off of Adept/Apt-get
[10:41] <Flame> So while I CAN now...theyre kinda useless :P
[10:41] <defrysk> sorry Flame I am getting tired
[10:42] <CaBlGuY> Flame:  LOL    well, at LEAST ya got em now.  :p
[10:42] <Flame> Eh its k. I figure at some point I have to trial and error this :D
[10:42] <defrysk> :)
[10:42] <Flame> Yeah, on the bright side, at least I get stuff now.
[10:42] <Flame> Lol
[10:42] <Flame> Hmm
[10:42] <CaBlGuY> Always look for the bright end of things..  It helps out a lot..  ;)
[10:42] <Flame> I think I see the problem...
[10:42] <Flame> The program I was using as an example...needs another plugin that I neglected to get.
[10:42] <Flame> ..pwnt.
[10:43] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[10:43] <Flame> >.<
[10:43] <Flame> Lol
[10:43] <CaBlGuY> ok, im oout for abit.
[10:43] <Flame> Ciao's
[10:47] <totof> bonjour tout le monde
[10:50] <pekay> linuxmonkey: anything?
[10:51] <mon> \list
[10:53] <totof> hello everybody, I've just installed kubuntu on my computer and I'd like to know if you know if there is a french channel dealing withit
[10:54] <azathoth> amarok only shows up xine as an engine, but gstreamer is installed and working, why won't it show up?
[10:54] <bogeyx> hi everybody
[10:55] <totof> hi
[10:55] <Flame> Hi
[10:55] <pekay> linuxmonkey: ?
[10:55] <bogeyx> whats the difference to kubuntu and ubuntu ??
[10:55] <azathoth> k
[10:55] <pipitas> hi, is ivocs here?
[10:55] <azathoth> d
[10:55] <azathoth> e
[10:55] <azathoth> :)
[10:55] <pipitas> nope...
[10:55] <totof> don't know, I'm here to understand
[10:56] <linuxmonkey> pekay no one is online for me to test it..lol
[10:56] <bimberi> bogeyx: ubuntu uses the gnome desktop, kubuntu uses kde
[10:56] <bogeyx> that means ubuntu = gnome and kubuntu = kde ?
[10:56] <bogeyx> ahh :)
[10:56] <bimberi> :)
[10:56] <pekay> linuxmonkey: gah, this thing is really annoying, all i wanna do is talk :p
[10:56] <pipitas> Can anyone tell me this: if I run "dpkg -i /local/path/to/package.deb"  <-- does that install like the packager intended it (ownerships of files, permissions, running post-install scripts, etc.)?
[10:57] <bimberi> pipitas: yes it will (note that it will need 'sudo' too)
[10:57] <linuxmonkey> pekay: mine works fine
[10:57] <pekay> :/
[10:57] <linuxmonkey> pekay how did u install yours?
[10:57] <pekay> via debian package from Skypes site
[10:58] <bimberi> !skype
[10:58] <ubotu> skype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[10:58] <pipitas> bimberi: being root will replace wrapping with sudo well enough, yes?
[10:58] <linuxmonkey> I used the old method
[10:58] <azathoth> skype is in the repo tho...
[10:58] <bimberi> pipitas: yep :)
[10:59] <crimsun> azathoth: ...? Surely you're not referring to Ubuntu's repo{,s}
[10:59] <bimberi> !find skype
[10:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'skype' (1 shown): (/usr/share/ubuntu-docs/gnome/menus/C/skype.xml) in text/ubuntu-docs.
[11:00] <linuxmonkey> i added the skype repo and then used apt-get to install it :)
[11:01] <linuxmonkey> and not 1 problem.except my friends list gotta be redone
[11:01] <pekay> humm
[11:01] <pekay> which repository you add?
[11:01] <linuxmonkey> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[11:01] <linuxmonkey> as per the wiki
[11:02] <pipitas> bimberi: the thing is -- I'm trying to test the CUPS-1.2.1 packages (by ivoks) hosted at http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/cups/
[11:02] <pipitas> bimberi: but the package did not install the default cupsd.conf
[11:04] <sean__> I got this -> http://eepybird.com/dcm1.html <- from a friend -- it will not play -- how might I get it to play?
[11:05] <bimberi> pipitas: Did you purge the existing cups package?
[11:05] <bimberi> pipitas: or alternatively, get the cupsd.conf out of the .deb and replace it manually
[11:06] <pipitas> bimberi: I'm currently repeating, after purging first
[11:06] <Anaksel> hi all, hope someone can help with this: I'm trying to install kubuntu 6.06 on a secondary ide hd, but in the install process it isn't on the hd list
[11:07] <pipitas> I did already manually extract the cupsd.conf from the .deb, but then had doubts if that is a real test
[11:07] <Anaksel> I'm using an asus p5wd2 mb, and the hd is connected to the ITE8211 bridge (I think this is the problem)
[11:08] <bimberi> pipitas: ah, yes that wouldn't be a real test
[11:09] <james_xxx> could someone please tell me how to bring gdm up in kubuntu? i should have it as i originally had ubuntu breezy on this computer
[11:09] <pipitas> bimberi: just to be sure: first "dpkg --purge cupsys", then "dpkg -i /path/to/all/cups*.debs" should run all required postinstall scripts, and set it up as the packager intends it to be?
[11:10] <pekay> linux: lol i just reinstalled it, wierd :S
[11:11] <fatejudger> for some reason the KMPlayer plugin jacks up my volume when I try and play a video
[11:11] <sokuban> hi, I am new to unix and the whole terminal thing (this would be my first time) I am trying to install flash for konqueror but not sure how the terminals work
[11:11] <bimberi> pipitas: i think it should, i'm not completely certain though (sorry)
[11:11] <bimberi> pipitas: that's the command sequence i would use though
[11:11] <fatejudger> sokuban: just use adept if you're uncomfortable with the terminal
[11:12] <sokuban> eh? you can install flash with adept?
[11:12] <sokuban> I enabled universe and multiverse with it
[11:12] <fatejudger> sokuban: yes, you can
[11:12] <james_xxx> could someone please tell me how to bring gdm up in kubuntu? i should have it as i originally had ubuntu breezy on this computer
[11:12] <bimberi> gtg
[11:12] <iNiku> james_xxx: edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager to point to /usr/bin/gdm, then /etc/init.d/kdm stop ; /etc/init.d/gdm start, all as root (ie. with sudo)
[11:12] <fatejudger> sokuban: just search for flash
[11:12] <james_xxx> iNiku: thanks
[11:12] <fatejudger> sokuban: it's in universe somewhere
[11:12] <KuLover> Heya Terminus,
[11:12] <Anaksel> anyone knows if ITE8211 is working on 6.06?
[11:12] <sokuban> oh ok
[11:12] <firephoto> sokuban: should show up then.. you have to click details when it's installing so you get a console and can tell it "ok" a couple of times i think.
[11:13] <sean__> !pastebin
[11:13] <iNiku> james_xxx: you may want to check first that you actually have gdm.
[11:13] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:13] <sokuban> the only thing that popped up was a kwordquiz
[11:18] <KuLover> Anyone been able to get the text install to detect thier RAID arrays?
[11:19] <sokuban> bah, I don't even know how to use adept so well how do I search for things in univere then? I just typed flash in the search box but it didn't come up, I guess I need something else
[11:19] <sean__> sokuban: read what ubotu says:
[11:19] <sean__> !restricted
[11:19] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:20] <sean__> Read the wiki ^^
[11:20] <simp> while using KTorrent i get an error while opening the torrent: Cannot create /hda6/Mngud/Half-Life 2 episode 1/Half-Life 2 Episode One [Retail] [English] [Text-MULTi] [www.newpct.com] /hl2ep1-pvn.nfo: No such file or directory
[11:20] <simp> but i have created the directory
[11:21] <simp> do i have to create the .nfo as well?
[11:21] <sokuban> I'm reading the wiki but I don't know how to use terminals
[11:21] <linuxmonkey> simp nice try, lol I dont support illegal activity
[11:21] <simp> ok i'l change the name?:P
[11:22] <simp> while using KTorrent i get an error while opening the torrent: Cannot create /hda6/Mngud/*********/**************.nfo: No such file or directory... i have created the right directory... do i have to create the .nfo as well?
[11:22] <linuxmonkey> lmao
[11:23] <simp> anyway i'm afraid it can happen with any torrent...
[11:23] <crimsun> simp: #1. No warez discussion. If you ask again, you'll be muzzled. #2. That torrent is using an absolute path to which you don't have writable permission.
[11:23] <simp> ok thank you...
[11:24] <sean__> sokuban: it's simple to use a terminal -- just follow what they tell you to do
[11:24] <sokuban> I get a bash command not found >_>
[11:25] <sean__> sokuban: when -- what did you do?
[11:25] <sokuban> typed 'Install the flashplugin-nonfree package.' on the first line in konsole
[11:25] <RobNyc> !mp3
[11:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:25] <godzero> sokuban: I'm comiing in late to the conversation... but are you trying to remote admin a web server?
[11:26] <sean__> sokuban: no, I do not think so
[11:26] <godzero> sokuban: if so, try sftp
[11:26] <sokuban> umm no, I don't think so either
[11:26] <sean__> sokuban: He's installing flash
[11:26] <sean__> sokuban: do this: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:26] <simp> while changeing the permissons it says i don't have access to this file/folder/partition
[11:26] <sean__> sokuban: oops -- that won;t work -- how about:
[11:27] <sean__> sokuban: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:27] <simp> i even tryied to change the whole partition but still the same problem
[11:27] <sokuban> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:27] <docta_v> i have a strange problem... after upgrade to dapper my ati bigdesktop doesn't work... at the kdm/gdm login screen it works fine but as soon as gnome or kde starts only one screen is usuable. it's like kde/gnome is somehow altering my x config after x has already started...very strange
[11:27] <sokuban> oops wrong window
[11:27] <simp> it is an FAT partition
[11:27] <godzero> sokuban: ignore me :)
[11:27] <Flame> lol
[11:27] <sean__> sokuban: well -- at least I know what you tried -- :)
[11:27] <ctothej> i receive this message when trying to install ktorrent2:
[11:27] <ctothej> dpkg: error processing ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_amd64.deb (--install):  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package kdelibs-dat
[11:28] <ctothej> anything i can do?
[11:28] <Flame> Godzero, so that means youre not so busy? >.>
[11:28] <sean__> ctothej: I tried too -- I just install ktorrent2 and reinstaller ktorrent -- if you can get it to work, tell me!
[11:28] <Admiral> is there a way to over ride the system needing a CD to install a package
[11:28] <Flame> Anyone want to explain to me how the DLing process works after you DL the package you want?
[11:28] <sokuban> reading package lists... Done (next line) Building dependency tree... Done (next line) E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[11:29] <godzero> Flame: not busy, but my point was I stepped in to the conv at the wrong point, and went down the wrong road
[11:29] <crimsun> Flame: could you be more specific?
[11:29] <Flame> Lol
[11:29] <Flame> As in...
[11:29] <ctothej> sean__: will do.
[11:29] <farous> sokuban: you need to enable extra repos
[11:29] <Flame> I go into Adept.
[11:29] <Flame> And click on whatever package.
[11:29] <Flame> And it Dls it and installs it.
[11:29] <sokuban> I already did
[11:29] <simp> while trying to change the permissions of a folder/file/partition i get an error saying that i don't have access to these settings. it is FAT32 partition and i'm logged in as the "admin" user(the one that is created while the installtion)
[11:29] <Flame> Then...how do I get it to the K menu-type thing?
[11:29] <sokuban> I think
[11:29] <Flame> >.>
[11:29] <Flame> Thats the part Im lost at.
[11:29] <farous> sokuban: and you updated your source list. run update
[11:29] <crimsun> Flame: if it has a .desktop entry, it should appear automatically.
[11:30] <sean__> sokuban: dapper or breezy?
[11:30] <sokuban> dapper
[11:30] <farous> or sudo apt-get update
[11:30] <Flame> And if it doesnt...how do I add one? Lol
[11:30] <crimsun> Flame: which package?
[11:30] <sean__> sokuban: sudo apt-get update
[11:30] <Flame> Any that arent the basic KDEgames, KDEtoys, etc.
[11:30] <sean__> sokuban: what farous said
[11:30] <godzero> Flame: do you meen you install a program, but it's not in the k menu?
[11:31] <crimsun> Flame: a specific package is helpful.
[11:31] <Flame> For example...asc. Its listed as a turn-based strat game.
[11:31] <andrisp> hello all, how can I open 'Package Manager (Add aplication)' from terminal ?
[11:31] <sokuban> I did that, and tried the sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree but I got the same error
[11:31] <godzero> Flame: k
[11:31] <pekuja> is it not?
[11:31] <sean__> Flame: right click K, open the menu editor, click save, close, it should be in there
[11:31] <sokuban> I updated successfully though
[11:31] <crimsun> I don't think asc has a .desktop entry, but I'll check the source.
[11:32] <farous> sokuban: post your /etc/apt/sources.list file on the pastebin
[11:32] <sokuban> I would find that by doing what?
[11:32] <godzero> Flame: yes, sean__ is on the right track, the list isn't built from moment to moment
[11:32] <farous> just need to check you enabled the proper repos
[11:32] <sokuban> nvm I can find it >_>
[11:32] <Flame> Ahh...ok so I just save the menu editor?
[11:33] <sokuban> and what is pastebin?
[11:33] <Flame> Nada >.<
[11:33] <Flame> pastebin.com
[11:33] <farous> !tell sokuban about pastebin
[11:33] <sokuban> oh
[11:33] <Flame> Is a site people use to show their outputs without clogging up the chan.
[11:33] <crimsun> Flame: it should appear under Games> Strategy  if you update-menus and/or log out and back in
[11:34] <godzero> flame: yes, try opening the editor, then saving w/o changing anything, that should refresh the list. The list also refreshes after boot, prolly after login too.
[11:34] <Flame> What name does it appear under?
[11:34] <Flame> (I'd prefer to make sure Im not being retarded...)
[11:34] <crimsun> longtitle="Advanced Strategic Command"
[11:34] <farous> sokuban: check that multiverse repos is enabled in your sources
[11:34] <Flame> Then...no.
[11:34] <Flame> Not there
[11:34] <Flame> Lol
[11:34] <crimsun> title="asc" command="/usr/games/asc"\
[11:34] <sokuban> ok I did it on ubuntu's pastebin
[11:34] <sokuban> a sokuban
[11:34] <sokuban> *as
[11:35] <crimsun> Flame: try ``sudo update-menus''
[11:35] <godzero> hrm.. no .desktop file?
[11:35] <Flame> So now how do I...make it appear?
[11:35] <Flame> k
[11:35] <farous> sokuban: paste the pagelink here
[11:35] <crimsun> godzero: no, but it has a menu entry.
[11:35] <Flame> sudo update-menus
[11:35] <Flame> right?
[11:35] <sokuban> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15146
[11:35] <crimsun> Flame: yes, in a Konsole
[11:35] <sokuban> sorry I never used pastebin before <_<
[11:35] <Flame> I get a command not found error
[11:35] <Flame> >>
[11:35] <masterloki> hi there, i've trying to enable a fat partition rw but i can't
[11:35] <crimsun> err, it may be update-menu
[11:36] <masterloki> ls -l says drwxrwxrwx and -rwxrwxrwx
[11:36] <Flame> Still nil
[11:36] <crimsun> try logging out and back in, then
[11:36] <crazy_penguin> good night to all. sleep well! :)
[11:36] <fatejudger> for some reason when I play video files using the KMPlayer plugin, it turns up my master volume to full blast
[11:36] <Flame> Night ;)
[11:36] <Flame> kk
[11:36] <godzero> Flame: what was the package name? i will try
[11:36] <fatejudger> is there a way to prevent this from happening?
[11:36] <Flame> And it should be fix-ed?
[11:36] <Flame> Asc
[11:36] <Flame> Its listed as some sort of strategy game.
[11:37] <Flame> brb
[11:37] <farous> sokuban: you do not have mulitverse enabled. I enabled it to you and universe too check the correction in this page http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15148
[11:38] <Flame> Hmm
[11:38] <farous> !tell sokuban about easysource
[11:38] <Flame> Still nada. :(
[11:38] <Flame> >.>?
[11:39] <sokuban> ok so now I use easysource and edit the source with the correction?
[11:39] <yonkeltron> why is it that mp3s still will not play?
[11:39] <Flame> So if it still doesnt recognize it under the Games-Strategy tab...what do I do?
[11:40] <godzero> flame: I already had it installed. "asc" at the command line launched it.. but i see no .desktop file... no menu item
[11:40] <Flame> >.>
[11:40] <Flame> Heh
[11:40] <farous> sokuban: easysource is a nice tool to generate the source list file
[11:40] <Flame> So that means I have to...remember every program?
[11:40] <nbegorre> Hi
[11:40] <Flame> Lol
[11:40] <godzero> flame: no!
[11:40] <Flame> That seems nightmarish...
[11:40] <Flame> Thank God.
[11:40] <Flame> lol
[11:40] <sokuban> oh I get it
[11:40] <farous> sokuban: you can just edit your source file with the correction i made for now. the easysource link if you had other problems with your source file in future
[11:40] <Flame> So then..what exactly do I do? >.<
[11:41] <sokuban> uhh so how do I view your correction? and how do I edit the source? with kate?
[11:41] <godzero> flame: if we cant find it we should report it as a bug.
[11:41] <Flame> Oooh great...I broke Kubuntu! >.<
[11:41] <Flame> Lawl
[11:42] <farous> sokuban: scroll down to the line deb http://ca.archives.ubuntu.com/ universe multiverse
[11:42] <godzero> flame: in the meantime... we can make a .desktop, or edit the menu
[11:42] <Flame> ooh
[11:42] <Flame> So I can just...find where its DLing the files
[11:42] <Flame> And then edit the menu to add them?
[11:42] <farous> open the file in edit mode. sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:42] <Qrawl> Do I want to install Java
[11:42] <daeds> having problems with the dapper installer... says that there is a DCOP communications error.
[11:42] <Flame> Sure.
[11:42] <crimsun> Flame: you can file a wishlist bug requesting a .desktop file be added.
[11:42] <yonkeltron> oh my
[11:42] <daeds> the installer just stops and wont continue
[11:42] <farous> remove the comments (# sign) and add multiverse after universe
[11:42] <Flame> O.o
[11:43] <Qrawl> easiest way to install Java is?
[11:43] <godzero> flame: it's in /usr/games/asc
[11:43] <yonkeltron> what should i do if i can't seem to download and install the libxine-extracodecs package?
[11:43] <Flame> Right. So I should just do that for each package I dl that doesnt add?
[11:43] <Qrawl> yonkeltron, did you enable multiverse
[11:43] <daeds> when i start up the system with the live cd it has a error that the KDE crash prog handles, could be that
[11:43] <crimsun> yonkeltron: enable the universe and multiverse repositories.
[11:43] <Flame> Because...9/10 arent adding >.<
[11:43] <daeds> but how do i fix it?
[11:43] <farous> Qrawl: sun java if that is what you are asking for is in the repos
[11:43] <Qrawl> farous, ty
[11:43] <farous> yw :)
[11:43] <yonkeltron> Qrawl: i should have it!
[11:43] <Qrawl> yonkeltron, did you enable multiverse
[11:44] <daeds> anyone?
[11:44] <sokuban> I can't find that line do you mean the dapper-backports?
[11:44] <godzero> flame: most won't show up til you log out/in. the rest are a mistake we'll help them fix
[11:44] <Flame> ^^
[11:44] <Flame> Also...what stuff under Adept should I -not- Dl?
[11:44] <farous> sokuban: no the main ports
[11:44] <Flame> As in..what wont be compatible with this OS?
[11:44] <farous> did you look up the link i sent you
[11:44] <Flame> Will it all be?
[11:44] <yonkeltron> Qrawl: yes
[11:44] <Qrawl> ok, then you have to do this
[11:45] <godzero> flame: ms office, lol what do you meen?
[11:45] <Qrawl> in sources, where it says universe, you have to add  multiverse to the end
[11:45] <sokuban> I don't see them >_>
[11:45] <yonkeltron> Qrawl: i did..
[11:45] <Qrawl> so if it says   universe , change it to  universe multiverse
[11:45] <Flame> Well
[11:45] <crimsun> Flame: yes, 9/10 because there are a /lot/ of historical packages that predate the freedesktop.org menu spec
[11:45] <yonkeltron> Qrawl: let me try to apt-get update again
[11:45] <Qrawl> did you do  sudo apt-get update  after
[11:45] <Flame> Some are marked stuff that Im not sure I have installed.
[11:45] <Flame> Lol
[11:46] <Flame> so Im kinda just..ignoring those for now. /Shrug. I hope I am anyways >.>
[11:46] <farous> sokuban: it is the 14th line from the top
[11:46] <crimsun> Flame: meaning, lots of those packages existed before the idea of a common menu with icons
[11:46] <Flame> Ahhhhh ok ok that makes sense.
[11:46] <Flame> So they dont fit, because the menu didnt exist
[11:46] <farous> under section that say uncomment the following to add software from universe
[11:46] <sokuban> oh >_>
[11:46] <sokuban> it doesn't have multiverse beside it, do I write that?
[11:46] <godzero> flame: crimsun is right
[11:46] <crimsun> Flame: there should be a "Debian" menu, though
[11:47] <farous> yes you write it
[11:47] <crimsun> Flame: (in your K menu)
[11:47] <crimsun> Flame: and it should appear inside the Games section of your Debian menu
[11:47] <Flame> Nuh uh...
[11:47] <farous> crimsun he might have not has the deb menu package installed
[11:47] <Flame> I dont have a Debian menu
[11:47] <Flame> >.>
[11:47] <Flame> Lol
[11:47] <sokuban> on the 15th line too?
[11:47] <godzero> i couldn't find it in debian, but findinf anything in debian is hard
[11:47] <crimsun> I'm pretty sure menu-xdg is installed by kubuntu-desktop...?
[11:47] <Flame> I'm thinking I should obtain this menu mayhaps?
[11:48] <Flame> I dunno...but I assure you I dont have it :P
[11:48] <farous> sokuban: yah for the source
[11:48] <farous> Flame: install both menu and menu-xdg
[11:48] <sokuban> ok so that's all? save it now?
[11:48] <Flame> kk
[11:48] <farous> then run sudo update-menu
[11:48] <yannux> hye everybody
[11:48] <Flame> can I just apt-get them?
[11:48] <farous> sokuban: yes save it. run sudo apt-get update
[11:48] <Flame> Because...Im starting to find thats quicker sometimes >.>
[11:48] <farous> then you are good to go
[11:48] <yannux> does someone know if there is a kopete 0.12 package ?
[11:49] <Flame> kk
[11:49] <Flame> done both
[11:49] <Flame> Now...refresh the menu again with the editor?
[11:49] <sokuban> ok, done
[11:50] <Flame> ZOMG!
[11:50] <Flame> It works!
[11:50] <Flame> Woo-freaking-hoo...^__^
[11:50] <Flame> Thanks.
[11:50] <yannux> nobody know?
[11:50] <farous> yannux: what is your quest
[11:51] <sokuban> I might be jumping the gun a little, but I still got the same error when I apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree afterwards
[11:51] <yannux> farous: s there a kopete 0.12 package ?
[11:51] <farous> sokuban: did you run sudo apt-get update first
[11:51] <yannux> is*
[11:51] <sokuban> yes
[11:51] <farous> yannux: check at packages.ubuntu.conm
[11:51] <Flame> So now theyll all be auto-added to the Debian menu, right?
[11:51] <farous> sokuban: are you sure you are not making spelling mistake search using adept or synaptic
[11:52] <farous> Flame: each time you run update-menu
[11:52] <sokuban> in the search in adept I only typed 'flash' and I didn't try synaptic
[11:52] <farous> or if the program install script run it for you
[11:52] <RobNyc> i just dont understand why when I have my Xchat view > Tree, it doesnt show colors on the channels activity like it does when its in tab and I think its a Kubuntu bug probably ?
[11:53] <Flame> Ahh kk
[11:53] <yannux> farous: nothing, i Know, but someone perhaps build it
[11:53] <farous> sokuban: did you have adept opened all the time you edited the source list. if so close it and open it again
[11:53] <Flame> You can edit the source list thru adept, cant you?
[11:53] <sokuban> ok
[11:53] <farous> flame ye
[11:53] <farous> s
[11:53] <sokuban> err no I didn't >_>
[11:53] <sokuban> I thought I did
[11:54] <Flame> ^^
[11:54] <farous> but i am not an adept expert ;)
[11:54] <sokuban> I used the wiki and tried adept, but I think I selected the wrong ones >_>
[11:55] <slow-motion> n8
[11:56] <kk> how to install kopete-0.12.0 on kubuntu dapper ?
[11:56] <sokuban> so what could the problem be?
[11:56] <farous> sokuban: ou still cn not find it
[11:57] <daeds> can anyone help?
[11:57] <sokuban> can not find what?
[11:57] <farous> sokuban: ok use easysource and just copy and paste the generated source list. put all the repos you will need
[11:57] <farous> flash
[11:57] <computinchuck> hi
[11:57] <sokuban> alright
[11:57] <Qrawl> how do I get embedded Java apps to display in Konq
[11:58] <godzero> daeds: restate?
[11:58] <computinchuck> is there a howto, book or tutorial that discusses how ubuntu implements the hal/dbus/udev setup for removeable devices?
[11:59] <sokuban> what does packages mean and what does sources mean?
[11:59] <Fillado> Qrawl: sudo apt-get install sun-java1.5-plugins (IIRC)
[11:59] <farous> sokuban: packages are precompiled programs. source are the orginal program and you need to compile it your self
[11:59] <farous> sokuban: you need the packages not the source
[11:59] <Qrawl> Fillado, ty
[11:59] <sokuban> ok
[12:00] <RobNyc>  i just dont understand why when I have my Xchat view > Tree, it doesnt show colors on the channels activity like it does when its in tab and I think its a Kubuntu bug probably ?
[12:00] <Fillado> *might be sun-java5-plugins
[12:00] <Qrawl> ty, I looked for that.  it's in the repos
[12:00] <godzero> daeds: which program crashes? did you check you D/L with a md5sum?
[12:01] <kk> what are the sources to include to install kopete-0.12.0 on dapper ?
[12:01] <Qrawl> installing now
[12:01] <Qrawl> 36mb ;/
[12:02] <jbirdAngel> hello, how do i get thunderbird to use firefox to open up links into instead of konquerer in kubuntu
[12:02] <sokuban> it looks a heck of a lot different, I think I should back up my old sources.list
[12:03] <Fillado> kk: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest breezy main
[12:03] <kk> what are the sources to include to install kopete-0.12.0 on dapper ?  if source is compiled into a a separate directory, kopete is crashing :(
[12:03] <Evixo> I can't mount my dvd drive anymore ... I've tried it in the /etc/fstab or in the terminal but it won't help :s could someone pls help me out here?
[12:03] <Fillado> kk: if 0.12.0 is included in KDE 3.5.3
[12:04] <kk> Fillado: i dont think it is included in KDE 3.5.3