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hanasakianyone awake?06:23
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SteveAmorning09:29
stubThere appears to be a load of crud in /home/warthogs/archives/rocketfuel/launchpad/devel, such as .bzr.backup and repository.old. This makes it very slow to mirror it in order to prime a branch for a faster push.09:39
SteveAeven if you use bzr branch ?09:53
lifelessmorning SteveA 09:55
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lifelessstub: indeed, both of those can be deleted.09:56
lifelessSteveA: phone call ?09:57
SteveAlifeless: can do09:57
lifelessI'm at the K+K - is it easier for you to ring me, or me you ?09:57
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sivangmorning10:30
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mdkeelmo, Znarl, do you know if admin intervention is required to effect a change in the @ubuntu.com email redirect after changing one's preferred email address in launchpad?10:42
Znarlmdke : You'll need to ask Elmo when he's around in a few hours or email RT.10:43
mdkeZnarl: sure thing, thanks. Wiki magic today?10:45
Znarlmdke : Yep, should be.10:46
mdkeZnarl: +D10:47
mdkeor even, :D10:47
mdkeZnarl: gimme a shout if you need anything10:50
lifelessjamesh: ping10:51
jameshlifeless: pong10:51
lifeless18  18  salgado  david/cscvs/code-cleanups10:51
lifelessthat seems bong to me10:51
lifelessI'm *positive* it cannot be 18 days in that state10:52
ddaathis branch is not even a week old10:52
ddaawell...10:52
ddaamaybe I did some abusive copy-pasting though...10:52
jameshlifeless: on PendingReviews it says 2006-05-1710:52
ddaamost probably my bad10:53
mdkebtw did someone report that there are lots of dapper-upgrades uploaded which aren't coming through?10:53
lifelessjamesh: the first column is ddaa's problem10:54
lifelessjamesh: the second one though, is the 'days in state' column, and 18 is not right for that.10:54
jameshlifeless: the penidng-reviews code believes the dates for newly added branches, which is the problem here10:54
lifelessso, ddaa - DONT DO THAT10:54
lifelessjamesh: but it would be nice to correct.10:55
jameshyeah10:55
stubKinnison: Your md5 column is now filled in. Are you going to need to run selects on it in the next week?11:04
Kinnisonstub: No, but if you can do 'alter table libraryfilecontent alter column md5sum set not null' or similar then I'd be grateful. (Of course, only do that if you're sure it won't explode everything :-)11:05
KinnisonWe'll need it when we move to trying experiments for speeding up publishing11:06
lifelessjamesh: can you poke pending reviews to have '3' for that branch ?11:08
jameshlifeless: should be fixed on next run11:15
ddaalifeless: sorry, no one else to blame about the tedium or registering new branches on PendingReviews11:17
ddaalifeless: jamesh: spiv: mpool: SteveA: meeting in 43 mins11:17
SteveAhello11:35
mdkeanyone?11:36
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YannigHello everybody :)11:38
KinnisonHi Yannig11:40
SteveAspiv, stub, jamesh: conference call tomorrow morning?11:41
stubSure11:41
jameshokay (I assume your morning)11:41
SteveAyes, like 0600 UTC11:42
SteveAUniversal morning 11:42
KinnisonSteveA: Morning11:44
KinnisonSteveA: Can I possibly have a drive-by review of another couple of tiny bits for infinity?11:44
SteveAhello daniel!11:44
KinnisonSteveA: https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/file09f7zd.html11:44
SteveAsure.  i'll get a cup of tea first, but i'll look at it shortly11:45
KinnisonThanks11:46
mdkeKinnison: did someone ping you about dapper-updates not coming through? Not sure if you are the right person to ping, but you'll certainly know who is11:49
Kinnisonmdke: Yes, that patch which you can't read should fix it11:50
mdkeKinnison: great, thanks. wanted to ask just in case11:50
ddaalifeless: jamesh: spiv: mpool: SteveA: meeting about just now11:59
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lifelesshi12:11
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SteveAKinnison: i haven't started your review yet.  no sooner had i got the tea than the bzr-launchpad meeting started12:22
SteveAi'll do it very soon12:22
KinnisonThat's okay, the test suite keeps hanging12:23
KinnisonI think it's my laptop rather than the codebase12:23
spivKinnison: what test is it hanging on?12:25
KinnisonIt fell off the top of my scrollback, sorry12:27
KinnisonIf it happens again I'll let you know12:27
spivPlease do; test suite hangs are a pita that's likely to recur and affect other people or even PQM.12:28
KinnisonIt's sat again12:31
KinnisonUnfortunately I think the output is being chunked instead of flushed line-by-line12:32
Kinnisonso the last bit I see is the test after 15-make-team-restricted in the foaf story12:32
spivKinnison: ugh, yeah.  Attach gdb I guess.12:32
KinnisonOh hang on it just moved on12:32
spivAnd next time try reproducing it without the test_on_merge.py wrapper.12:32
Kinnisonokay12:33
spiv(see the DebuggingWithGdb page if you're interested)12:33
spivi.e. ./test.py -vv ...12:33
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lifelessreview meeting in 7 inutes12:53
lifelessreview meeting in 512:55
Keybukhi guys12:56
Keybukis http://bazaar.launchpad.net supposed to work inside the data centre?12:56
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Kinnisonspiv: read(28, "\n    test_file_construction_and_trivial_running (canonical.launchpad.ftests.test_test_pages.TestMakeStoryTest)", 4096) = 11001:01
Kinnisonspiv: that was the last thing the top level test.py did before getting killed for having hung for 10 minutes01:01
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lifelessreviewers meeting time.01:03
spivKinnison: Hmm, I doubt that's the offending test.01:03
lifelessKeybuk: dunno. If it doesn't, I think that is not so good, and it should01:03
spivKinnison: try test.py directly :/01:04
Keybuklifeless: it returns 404s inside the data centre, despite appearing to be the same machine01:04
lifeless * Roll call01:04
lifeless * Agenda01:04
lifeless * Next meeting01:04
lifeless * Queue status.01:04
lifelessKeybuk: bizarre01:04
lifelessKeybuk: file a bug on launchpad-bazaar ?01:04
lifelessreviwers, please name thyself01:04
SteveAhi01:04
spivspiv01:04
Keybuklifeless: ok, I'm having e-mail problems at the moment, so will probably just grab people all day first :p01:04
jameshhi] 01:05
lifelessBjornT_: ?01:05
BjornT_hi, i'm here01:05
lifelesscool01:05
salgadohey, I'm here this week!01:05
lifelesswoo!01:05
Kinnisonspiv: underway01:05
lifelessok01:05
lifelessnext meeting time01:05
lifeless20060612 at 1100 UTC ?01:05
spivAssuming that's exactly one week's time, sure ;)01:06
lifelessits 6 minutes less than one weeks time01:06
spivI can cope with that.01:06
lifelessok01:07
lifelessqueue status01:07
lifelessignoring ddaa's broken branch...01:07
lifelessBjornT_: jamesh - it looks like you didn't get to reviews on friday ?01:07
jameshlifeless: yeah.  I'm just finishing off ddaa's review and will mail it shortly01:07
salgadolifeless, ddaa's broken branch is the one that's on my queue?01:08
lifelessyeah - the date is whack, but the branch is fine01:08
salgadoright. I'll review it today01:08
BjornT_lifeless: right, i forgot to do it on friday. i already reviewed the branch today, though.01:08
lifelessBjornT_: thats good.01:08
lifelessso, 2 open at 4 days, is better than 3@5.01:09
lifelessbut I think we can do better. Do you both check for reviews daily ?01:09
lifeless(is it on your 'I must do this once today list' ?)01:09
SteveAanyone had any pre-implementation review calls?01:09
jameshI did one with mpt last week and mailed a summary to launchpad-reviews01:10
lifelesshow did it go ?01:10
SteveAi missed seeing that.  thanks, i'll look01:10
jameshI think it was quite useful01:10
lifelesswhat was your feeling about it ?01:10
jameshwe touched on a few issues that mpt hadn't thought of, which may have come up in review afterwards01:11
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SteveAi see01:11
jamesh(about which cases the subjects for bug comments could be thrown away entirely)01:11
SteveAyeah, looks like mpt should request some data from stub01:11
malccAs a J. Random Launchpad developer, I found the window into what people were doing and what they were thinking about it very useful01:11
SteveAso eyeball subjects of comments01:11
SteveAhi malcolm01:12
SteveAmalcc: do you have any tasks coming up that could use a pre-implementation call?01:12
SteveAperhaps some bugs to fix or tests to write or something?01:13
malccSteveA: Nothing which really fits the bill without stretching, but if you fancy trying a call out, I could stretch some things in that direction01:13
lifelessok01:14
lifelessback to the queue01:14
SteveAi'd much rather we err on the side of too many calls than too few01:14
lifelessI've assigned the new branches from the weekend01:14
lifelesscan you please put a bit of effort in today and catch up, the needs-review queue is getting a little large01:15
lifelessthere are a *lot* of branches that pending-merges thinks are merged.01:15
lifelessI'm going to send an email about that to launchpad01:15
lifelessone last thing, then any other business.01:16
lifelessPlease be sure to say 'this review took X minutes' when you send a review to the list01:16
lifelessI will start nagging about this daily, as it has not been done consistently over the last week.01:17
lifelessthis is important to get a feel for the time commitment being a reviewer requires.01:17
lifelessplease dont worry about whether its a 'small' or 'large' amount of time - take the time you need to do the review.01:18
lifelessis that ok ?01:18
salgadosure01:19
spivyep01:19
jameshokay01:19
BjornT_sounds good.01:19
lifelessok. Any new business ?01:20
SteveAspiv, stub, jamesh: conf call at 0700 tomorrow?  (one hour later than I said earlier) 01:20
jameshSteveA: okay01:20
lifelessSteveA: thats new business ?01:20
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SteveAlifeless: new business: i mailed the launchpad list asking everyone to do one pre-review call this week01:21
lifelessah01:21
SteveAeven if it is trival, i want to get everyone to experience this01:21
SteveAget the snowball rolling01:21
lifelessSteveA: thanks, I think that is a great idea.01:21
SteveAso that soon it will become a rotating ball of icy doom01:21
spivSteveA: I'll check...01:22
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lifeless=== thanks for coming ===01:23
spivSteveA: I can do that, but not much later.01:23
SteveAspiv: okay, thanks.01:23
SteveAthanks for running the meeting lifeless 01:24
lifelessSteveA: np :)01:25
lifelessSteveA: it kinda goes with running the review process01:25
SteveAjamesh: is the pending-reviews script still running?01:26
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salgadostub, around?01:36
spivSteveA: still running -- see https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews.new/log01:38
SteveAi didn't realize there was a log! cool01:41
Znarlstub : Ping?01:44
Znarlstub : Launchpad production logs have reached over 1gig.01:45
salgadohey spiv. have some time for some more twisted questions?01:47
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Kinnisonspiv: without the test_on_merge wrapper the tests run through to completion01:49
Kinnisonspiv: Admittedly they take 45 minutes on this machine, but that's my own lack of RAM biting me in the arse01:50
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YannigI have another dumb question :D01:52
YannigI see that green bars represent "Translation unchanged since last synchronized". How often is it synchronized?01:52
Yannig(just for my information :))01:53
lifelessZnarl: whats your lp account name ?01:54
carlosYannig: hi01:54
Znarllifeless : Karl-Tilbury01:55
carlosYannig: it depends, for Ubuntu, I should implement something that notes when we did a new language pack export01:55
carlosfor products, it means when upstream authors import a new set of .pot and .po files that include those translations done in Rosetta01:55
lifelessahha!01:55
lifelessZnarl: thanks01:56
carlosYannig: for ubuntu it happens with new packages uploads, but it's only valid until release time01:56
Znarllifeless : Why do you ask? 01:56
lifelessZnarl: so I could attach you to a bug01:57
lifelesskeybuk should be chatting to you now01:57
lifelessthere is something that may be lp related, or may be dc-server-config related01:57
Yannigcarlos> Thanks :)01:57
Znarllifeless : Yes, trying to work out why now.01:58
YannigAlmost no green for Occitan, that's why :)01:58
lifelesscool01:58
carlosYannig: ;-)01:58
Yannig(and still no news for ubuntu-oc-l10n@lists.ubuntu.com :-()01:58
carlosYannig: are you sending your translations to upstream? GNOME, KDE, Debian, etc...01:58
carlosYannig: you should do that01:58
YannigI hope nobody will try and write it :(01:58
carlosso other distributions could reuse your translations01:59
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Yannigcarlos> I translate online (in Rosetta) and I sometimes upload po files01:59
YannigIsn't it the same?01:59
stubsalgado: pong01:59
carlosYannig: upload files into Rosetta? yes, is the same for Rosetta01:59
stubZnarl: ok02:00
carlosYannig: but you should contact GNOME, KDE and other projects that you are translating in Rosetta02:00
carlosso they get your translations 02:00
YannigOK, I'll do it02:00
carlosand, with their next release, those translations end in Fedora, Debian, RedHat, SuSE, etc....02:00
Yannig2,15% translated, I may wait a little while for this :)02:01
LarstiQYannig: you might get some help when you contact more people02:01
YannigLarstiQ> I tried but no news for now (and as long as ubuntu-oc-l10n@lists.ubuntu.com does not exist, the contact address I used in my translations will return errors to the interested people :()02:02
carlosYannig: if you start creating the Occitan team upstrea, you would prevent any other people start working on the same thing without reusing your work02:03
Yannigcarlos> Another team than https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-l10n-oc ?02:04
YannigSorry, I don't really understand how all that works behind the scene :(02:04
carlosYannig: I'm talking about being at: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gtp/teams.html02:04
carlosYannig: rosetta and launchpad are Ubuntu specific02:04
carlosso your work is used only with Ubuntu02:05
carlosperhaps in the future would be used by other projects/distributions, but it's not that way at,02:05
carlosatm02:05
carlosYannig: in fact, I already see an Occitan team in GNOME02:05
carlosyou should try to coordinate with them02:05
lifelessjamesh: might like to rerun pending-reviews now that some have been deleted02:06
YannigWell, it's a single-translator team, just as here :(02:06
carlosYannig: join your efforts!02:07
carlos:-D02:07
YannigWe'll try :)02:08
sivangre all, my network is back02:08
stubddaa: How often can we expect bzrsyncd to be chewing resources like it currently is on gandwana?02:08
sivangsalgado: thanks for confirming #48342 , I was afraid there is something hidden which I don't see that rationales this behavior.02:11
sivanghrm, malone #4834202:11
UbugtuMalone bug 48342 in launchpad "Team membership should state an indirect membership instead of just "you are not a mamber of this team."" [Minor,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4834202:11
ddaastub: never02:12
ddaathere's at least two bugs at work02:12
ddaaone having to do with lockfile stuff not working02:12
ddaathe other having to do with branch-scanner getting that busy02:13
stubddaa: Do we know what they are? I will need to shutdown the appservers on that box if it isn't fixable now, as at the moment 50% of our requests will be going really slow02:13
Znarlstub : gandwana Launchpad XMLRPC Apps Server 1/2 2/2 and Apps server 1/2 down.02:13
ddaastub: no fucking clue what they are02:13
stubZnarl: Ta.02:13
stubZnarl, SteveA: I'm going to leave the appservers running on Gandwana down until we can resolve the bzrsyncd issue02:14
ddaabesides, I'm packing up for a suprise trip to london02:14
sivangsurprise trip? :)02:14
stubZnarl, SteveA: Having them running when things go wonky will do more harm than good.02:15
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stubsalgado: I fixed the shipit report bug on production and reran so the reports will be there. I didn't commit the fix though because I don't have tests ;)02:24
ddaastub: okay... found the problem...02:24
ddaaactually, known problem02:24
ddaajust did not know it was _that_ serious02:24
salgadostub, that's fine. thank you very much. I'll write a fix with a test for it today02:25
stubddaa: Is there anything we can do to the production system to make sure it can't be triggered, or shall we just leave the appservers on gandwana off until we can deal with the issue properly?02:25
ddaayes there is02:26
salgadostub, btw, would it be possible to give mawson a new dump of the production db?02:26
ddaastub: we need to rm -rf away the branches on vostok that cause the CorruptRepository exception02:26
ddaastub: if you look in the old bzrsyncd logs, I believe there was a couple of runs where bzrsyncd completed and gave us information for all those branches, there are like 2 or 3 of them.02:27
stubddaa: Sounds like something you need to do. We can afford to leave the appservers down for a bit if you haven't time to do it now.02:27
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ddaastub: I do not quite have the time to dig into it now02:28
stubddaa: ok. no probs. I've already sent out a  status notification.02:29
stubsalgado: What is this for? If it is for examining data we might need to get you access to the staging database instead.02:30
salgadostub, no, it's for testing the mirror prober. I need recent publishing records to test it properly02:31
stubYup02:31
stubsalgado: We need to work out what to do re: Bug 581202:32
cprovsalgado: go for staging, the launchpad_dogfood DB will be compromised for a while with open edgy issues02:32
salgadocprov, well, I can't simply "go for staging"02:34
cprovsalgado: carlos access staging from mawson02:34
salgadoahhhh, you mean just accessing staging's db from mawson?02:34
carloscprov: yeah, but seems like stuart gave access only to some people 02:35
cprovsalgado: yes, you have DB changes, how far are they from production ? 02:35
salgadothat should be fine02:35
carloscprov: also my access from mawson is in ro02:35
cprovcarlos: he can give access to Mr. salgado as well ;)02:35
carloscprov: I have write access from asuka02:35
salgadoI'd need rw02:35
stubsalgado: What PostgreSQL users do you need to connect as?02:36
carloscprov: sure, I was just pointing that, by default, I don't think salgado has such rights02:36
cprovcarlos: sure, probably not.02:36
stubsalgado: The database is killed and rebuilt everyday. Will this cause a problem with testing? Otherwise you can just run another instance on mawson.02:37
salgadostub, distributionmirror02:37
salgadostub, no, the database being rebuilt every day is not a problem02:37
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lifelesscarlos: you should find a reviewer yourself if it is urgent02:47
carloslifeless: ok02:47
carlosIs there anyone that has some time to do a fast review? it's not completely trivial but the amount of changes is small02:48
carloshttps://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/file7w9yS8.html02:48
carlosthe DB patch is already approved by Stuart02:49
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carloslater03:09
Znarlstub : gandwana Apps servers all still down, just reminding you.03:16
kikogood morning03:16
kikocarlos, I'll take a look.03:17
SteveAKinnison: reviewed03:21
kikobradb, are you around already?03:22
KinnisonSteveA: thanks, the 'a' was me being crap, I'll expand it03:22
bradbkiko: hi03:22
kikobradb, I need some help with a Snapshot change that I need to make03:22
kikodo you have some minutes to over it with me?03:22
bradbkiko: sure03:23
kikobradb, give me 5m03:24
bradbno prob03:24
salgadohey kiko. do you have write access on staging?03:29
kikosalgado, to the instance or to the db?03:29
salgadothe db03:29
kikono!03:29
salgado:-(03:30
salgadodoes anybody (apart from sub, who left already) has write access to staging's db?03:31
SteveAsalgado: i might do03:32
salgadoSteveA, would you run a script to create some distribution mirrors there for me? I need to test it against fresh publishing records, so I can't use dogfood (which is old and can't be updated right now)03:33
SteveAsalgado: i can su to launchpad.  what do i need to do?03:33
stubZnarl: Check your email. They will be down until we fix a bug in bzrsyncd or it becomes a problem and we disable bzrsyncd instead, so you will want to switch off that alert.03:41
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Znarlstub : Sorry, don't have great email access in the data centre.  I'll disable these alerts.03:46
stubok ;)03:47
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kikobradb!04:19
kikobradb, so the problem I have is with mailnotifications.py04:20
kikocan you look at the code with me for a moment?04:20
SteveAhey bradb 04:20
kikohey SteveA 04:20
bradbkiko: ok...04:20
bradbSteveA: hey04:20
SteveAi've asked everyone to have a voice call with a review this week04:21
SteveAdoesn't matter what it is about exactly04:21
SteveAso long as it is some code you're working on04:21
kikoSteveA, bradb and I can have a call about DRM04:22
SteveAD.R.M. ?04:22
SteveACDs that don't play?04:22
bradbheh04:22
kikoright04:22
kikomalone and multimedia04:22
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ploumhey04:31
ploumis the "post-a-comment-with-same-content-when-posting-a-bug" bug already known ?04:31
mdkeelmo: around?04:32
salgadokiko, https://staging.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+archivemirrors04:32
kikosalgado, nice04:34
kikoany clue why -40 and -42 still have unknowns?04:34
salgadoI'll check the log file in a few minutes to see what happened there04:34
kikogood work04:36
carloskiko: ok, thanks04:37
bradbploum: What do you mean?04:37
ploumbradb: often, when you post a new bug, a comment with the content of your bug is automatically added04:38
ploumI've seen it once for me04:38
bradbploum: It's always added.04:39
ploumand now it seems that it happens regulary04:39
cprovsorry, my wireless connection was dropped, blame  http://www.mikrotik.com/, I wonder when we will have uBuntu (micro-Buntu) available 04:39
mdkeploum: the top one is the bug description04:39
bradbploum: The bug description and the first bug comment are initially identical, but the description can later be edited.04:39
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ploumoh 04:39
ploumso it's a "feature" !04:39
bradbIf they are identical, only the description is shown.04:39
bradbploum: Yeah. That way you can mangle the description, but you'll never lose the original bug report.04:40
plouminsightful04:40
ploumthat's why I sometime see it and sometime not04:40
ploumtought it was a bug04:40
ploumsorry04:40
bradbThere are perhaps better ways to deal with it, like hiding that first comment by default and allowing the user to expose it.04:40
malccThat's why some bugs have comments saying "I tried to edit this bug but I seem to have accidentally posted a duplicate comment".04:41
bradb"The description has been modified since the original report. _View the original report_."04:41
kikostub, ping?04:42
ploumindeed, the UI is not perfect because lot of people will think that there is a bug04:42
ploum(I hope I'm not the only one ;-) )04:42
bradbothers have brought this up. I'm going to email our UI guy with an idea for addressing the problem. ploum, do you an example URL, btw?04:43
ploumbradb: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/48521  this one04:43
UbugtuMalone bug 48521 in Ubuntu "Can not activate nvidia-setings panel with nvidia-glx installed" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  04:43
bradbright, thanks04:44
BjornTbradb: i think some malone spec addresses this problem, can't remember which one, though.04:44
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kikostub, ping?04:49
bradbBjornT: Hm, I can't find one unfortunately.04:53
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kikohas anyone seen test failures in sqlbase.quote?04:54
kikoand sqlvalues?04:54
kikostub?04:54
BjornTbradb: ah, it was BugHistory which mentions it briefly.04:55
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jmspeexHow do I get this -- https://launchpad.net/products/speex -- fixed with vaguely correct info?04:56
salgadoZnarl, around?04:56
jmspeex(I'm the maintainer)04:56
kikojmspeex, can I reassign that product to you?04:58
kikothat way you can fix it up yourself04:58
jmspeexyes04:58
kikoif so, what is your launchpad username?04:58
jmspeexjmspeex04:58
BjornTkiko: stub did some changes regarding quoting, i think. make sure that your sqlobject branch is up to date, and that you have merged in rf recently into your branch.04:59
bradbBjornT: Ah, right. It has the same idea of showing/hiding the original comment, though integrating that idea in bug history would indeed be sweeter.04:59
kikoBjornT, ah, ok.04:59
kikothanks.04:59
kikojmspeex, done.04:59
jmspeexkiko: thanks. Where do I change the cvs info (Speex doesn't use a CVS anymore)05:02
kikojmspeex, the cvs info is attached to a specific series05:04
kikoso you need to visit the "main" link05:04
kikoand then "Edit Source"05:05
jmspeexkiko: what are series?05:09
stubkiko: Wot he said05:09
kikothanks stub 05:10
kikojmspeex, product release series are Launchpad's name for a group or related releases05:10
jmspeex"Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page."05:10
kikojmspeex, hmmm. that could be a bug. matsubara can you check?05:10
jmspeexkiko: You mean like a branch?05:10
kikojmspeex, so if linux can be an example, the 2.4 series had a number of releases, including 2.4.10 and 2.4.11.05:10
kikojmspeex, yes, that's the general idea.05:11
kikojmspeex, I can update your details for you if you like05:11
jmspeexkiko: in the case of Linux, what would you do with 2.5.x (assuming people use it)05:11
kikojmspeex, it would be another series.05:12
kikofor 2.6 it is more complicated05:12
jmspeexSpeex has an old, stable, 1.0.x branch and a 1.1.x unstable branch. Most people actually use 1.1.x now.05:12
kikojmspeex, was 1.0 CVS-hosted?05:13
jmspeextrunk is svn http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/speex/05:13
kikoor did you move everything over?05:13
matsubarakiko: what page is jmspeex trying to access?05:13
kikomatsubara, https://launchpad.net/products/speex/main/+source05:13
jmspeexkiko: It got converted to svn. I don't think xiph still has the cvs.05:13
kikojmspeex, understood.05:13
jmspeexOK, off to bed. Will check that tomorrow. Email me if needed.05:14
kikojmspeex, do you want 1.0 listed as well? there doesn't seem to be a 1.0 branch on svn.xiph.org05:14
matsubarajmspeex, kiko: bug 3129405:15
UbugtuMalone bug 31294 in launchpad "product registrant should be able to modify product series details" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3129405:15
jmspeexkiko: http://svn.xiph.org/branches/rel-1-0-branch/speex/05:15
kikojmspeex, thanks. will update!05:15
jmspeexkiko: You might as well list me for bugs...05:16
kikojmspeex, you are by default the bug contact.05:16
kikobradb, we'd do well to make that clear in the UI, btw..05:16
jmspeexOk, bed time. g'night (or morning, or whatever!)05:17
bradbkiko: indeed05:17
kikonight05:17
BjornTSteveA: ping05:17
SteveAhi bjorn05:18
BjornTSteveA: hi. would you have time for a pre-implementation phone call re bug 32282?05:18
UbugtuMalone bug 32282 in malone "Try to reduce of the amount of LONG comments" [Normal,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3228205:18
kikoBjornT, I am available if you like05:19
SteveABjornT: i do later today, but maybe kiko is a better choice05:19
BjornTkiko: ok, thanks. skype or normal phone call?05:21
kikoBjornT, either is fine if you pre-book, skype needs some lovin to actually work for me05:21
jordihey duds05:22
jordicarlos: you marked my "further filtering" bug as In Progress. Thanks!05:22
carlosjordi: I did already the first part05:23
BjornTkiko: ok, maybe normal phone is better then. can you call me?05:23
carlosjordi: to select between distro and product entries05:23
jordithat helps a lot already05:23
carlosit should land this week, if stub does a usual production update05:23
jorditoo bad the queue is emptyish now :P05:23
carlosjordi: look at staging05:23
jordiok05:23
kikoBjornT, sure thing. 10m to read up the thread?05:23
carlosjordi: don't worry, edgy will bring us a bunch of entries....05:24
carlosjordi: ;-)05:24
jordicarlos: I had a brief look at those product lists05:24
jordiick :)05:24
BjornTkiko: sounds good.05:24
jordiand it's not as bad as I imagined, but it made me think about the "Rosetta" and "Malone" bits.05:24
carlosjordi: well, there are a lot of products that shouldn't have a .pot file05:25
jordicarlos: with what we have in rosetta right now, probably all of the products with templatyes should be "official", right?05:25
carlosimported05:25
jordicarlos: I know, but not as many as I feared05:25
carlosjordi: yeah, I guess we could set that flag automatically05:26
kikoBjornT, can you tell me of a subject line so I can find this mail in the mailing list?05:26
bradbkiko: I updated bug 28823, admittedly first being stumped by why we don't have such a default on the distro side.05:26
UbugtuMalone bug 28823 in malone "It's hard to figure out who the product/package/distribution bug contacts are" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/2882305:26
BjornTkiko: Malone quickfixes for distro05:26
jordicarlos: I guess there'll be GNOME products with templates in the future which won't "use rosetta officially"05:28
carlosjordi: right05:29
jordithen, tere's this dude in the mailing list asking for "groups of sources" in the translation lists: ie, this is kubuntu, this is ubuntu, etc.05:29
jordiI think I'm missing that too05:29
carlosjordi: that's already planned05:30
carlosthe priority thing was the first step in that direction05:30
jordinod05:30
jordiok, I wasn't sure.05:30
jordiI'll reply now05:30
carlosok05:31
kikoBjornT, ready?05:35
BjornTkiko: yeah, i'm ready.05:36
kiko-> privmsg05:36
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YannigStill no news for ubuntu-oc-l10n@lists.ubuntu.com :-(06:07
YannigAny idea if I could ask somebody else for it?06:07
kikoYannig, hmmm. who did you make the request to?06:13
mdkeYannig: did you email mailman@lists.ubuntu.com ?06:16
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carlosYannig: I will try to contact jdub about it tonight06:31
carlosYannig: did you manage to talk with jdub by irc ?06:31
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carloskiko: he told me that he sent the request to several admin emails and I pointed him to jdub directly06:32
kikoI see06:32
kikohmmmm06:32
carloskiko: seems like either jdub didn't get any email (a problem in some place...) or he's too busy to handle that request06:32
kikoI can try and help06:33
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carloskiko: I already agreed with Znarl to ask him the mailing list if I'm not able to contact with jdub this week06:33
kikookay, cool, well handled.06:33
mdkecarlos: I think the general procedure is supposed to be emailing mailman@lists.ubuntu.com, I dunno if that makes it more likely that jdub will read it though06:34
kikoBjornT, do you feel up to doing my review?06:34
carlosmdke: Yannig told me that he did it already one or two weeks ago06:34
mdkecarlos: :/06:34
jordihmm. kiko, who's CoC signing master these days?06:36
jordiis it the great Salgado?06:36
kikojordi, matsubara might be available to help06:36
salgadojordi, no, it is the great matsubara. :)06:36
jordiCoC signing. No matter how many times I type this, it always makes me grin...06:36
jordiooh, EL CHINO06:37
jordimatsubara: oye amigo!06:37
jordiso the XaraLX guys ask their translators to sign a document before they can translate the app.06:37
BjornTkiko: sure06:37
kikoBjornT, yes!06:37
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kikoBjornT, https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/file4L47Ya.html06:38
jordiNeil is asking me if Rosetta can present some kind of doc where they can say "yes, I agree to blah blah" and enter the XaraLX teams.06:38
kikoBjornT, -> privmsg06:38
carlosjordi: hi, you should CC launchpad's mailing list in your requests to update production DB06:38
jordiIs there any plan to make this kind of custom stuff available from Launchpad, or can it be related to the CoC code?06:38
carlosjordi: that would be a good thing to be more useful for upstream projects06:39
carlosnot sure about its priority....06:39
jordicarlos: *nod*. I took a sample email from you which didn't have the Cc, sorry06:39
cprovmdz: ping, did you see http://dogfood.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/06:40
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carlosjordi: Yeah, I wasn't adding it to the CC but since last month (or two) I'm doing it so I'm sure the request is not lost06:40
carlosjordi: don't worry06:40
jordinod06:40
jordiok06:40
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matsubarajordi: I don't know about the plans of doing the custom stuff, but I think this is something that could use the CoC code.06:44
jordimatsubara: I can file a bug06:45
matsubarajordi: please do it. I think it's possible to generalize the CodeOfConduct spec to cover this use case, but kiko probably knows better about the future plans.06:47
jordiok06:48
jordicarlos: for another DB update request,06:48
jordi"Plural-Forms: nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=206:48
jordi&& n%10<=4 && (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2);\n"06:48
jordiwould that go verbatim in the SQL statement?06:48
jordithis expression is pretty cool06:48
carlosjordi: not sure if we should use %%06:49
carlossend the request and ask Stuart 06:49
jordik06:49
mdzcprov: no06:50
mdzcprov: what is it based on?06:50
carlosBjornT: around ?06:51
cprovmdz: 18th May dapper was released and edgy was initialised06:51
carlosBjornT: sorry, I found the answer ;-)06:51
mdzcprov: can we do one based on current dapper?06:52
mdzcprov: does it have chroots so that we can test uploads to edgy?06:52
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cprovmdz: it'd cost sometime, chroots for edgy are in place (i386 only in dogfood buildfarm)06:58
cprovread some ___ time06:59
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mdzcprov: did you talk with BenC about that kernel upload?07:03
mdzthat would be an excellent test07:04
mdzcprov: is there an upload queue we can use, or do we need to send the uploads to you for processing?07:04
mdzkiko-fud: you're eating AGAIN?07:05
kiko-fudI haven't eaten yet!07:05
kiko-fudI was on fake-fud earlier07:05
cprovmdz: do you have access in mawson ?  no poppy unfortunatelly07:06
mdzcprov: I have an account07:06
cprovmdz: 'launchpad' user access as well ?07:06
mdzcprov: no07:07
cprovmdz: nevermind, best solution is to store your packages somewhere in chinstrap (or even mawson itself) I can run the upload for them 07:08
mdzcprov: the easier you can make this, the more we can help you07:08
cprovmdz: request 'launchpad' in mawson access anyway, but for now, send some packages for me, we can check something you want to test07:10
mdzcprov: do you know how to do a trivial update to a package for testing?07:10
mdzapt-get source, dch, debuild -S ?07:10
cprovmdz: yes, it's already done for some "stub", do you want me to do other ones ? say which07:12
mdzcprov: stub?07:12
cprov"fake"07:12
cprovno real sourcecode 07:12
mdzcprov: you can take any package, do that, and upload it to edgy on dogfood as a test07:12
mdzcprov: you could even write a script to do them all :-)07:13
mdzthere is no time to build everything now, though07:13
cprovmdz: uhm ... maybe07:13
mdzcprov: you can upload debian-installer and publish new installer builds for degy07:15
mdzedgy07:15
mdzcprov: in the Release file, the version number is '6.1' for some reason?07:16
mdzcprov: edgy has no Contents files07:17
mdzcprov: edgy has a newer version of the ntp package than dapper for some reason07:17
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mdzand scrollkeeper07:17
cprovmdz: some packages were in queue when I opened edgy07:18
mdzcprov: in the queue for dapper? or for edgy?07:18
cprovmdz: no reason for '6.1'07:18
cprovmdz: dapper, edgy didn't exist at that point ;)07:18
mdzcprov: other than those changes, edgy is the same as dapper07:19
mdzcprov: I ran compare-archive on it07:19
mdzcprov: why did the dapper uploads go into edgy?07:19
cprovmdz: looks like dapper has the newer ones 07:21
cprovmdz: there was no publication for the newer package when I 'copied' edgy, later I processed the dapper queue w/o closing it 07:22
mdzcprov: which dapper do you mean? dogfood or production?07:22
cprovmdz: this process should be more coherent using initialise-from-parent script07:22
cprovdogfood07:22
mdzcprov: edgy on mawson has a version of ntp which is neither in dogfood's dapper or in production's dapper07:23
cprovmdz: weird, which one ?07:23
mdzcprov: I guess I'm not sure how you want me to judge this, since its contents are sort of arbitrary07:23
mdz       ntp | 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu6 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources07:23
mdz       ntp | 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu4 | http://dogfood.ubuntu.com edgy/main Sources07:23
cprovmdz: I don't remember of doing anything for ntp, it looks like an removed package from a.u.c07:24
mdzcprov: it is most certainly not removed07:24
mdz       ntp | 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu3 | http://dogfood.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages07:25
mdzcprov: it looks like dogfood/dapper and dogfood/edgy have the same source but different versions of  the binaries07:25
mdzi.e., dogfood/dapper is not up to date07:25
cprovmdz: of course, it's not it's an 18th May DB copy ;) let's investigate the NTP issue, it may be a defect in publisher or initialise-from-parent 07:26
mdzcprov: read what I wrote above07:26
mdzcprov: dogfood/dapper has ntp  1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu4 sources but  1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu3 binaries07:27
mdzcprov: dogfood/edgy has  1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu4 sources and binaries07:27
mdzwhat does this mean? that dapper wasn't up to date when you copied it?07:27
mdzand why didn't the dapper builds take place on dogfood to bring it up to date?07:27
cprovmdz: we didn't wait build queue to quiesce, perhaps07:28
cprovmdz: uhm ..ntp-..4 take place at 18th 23:26, and queue-builder doesn't run often in mawson07:31
cprovmdz: anyway, now dapper is released and it won't be built anymore, that's why the extra checks in initialise-from-parent needs to be executed. In fact it won't happen in production.07:32
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mdzcprov: can we get an archive and db snapshot immediately before we open edgy in production?07:33
cprovmdz: sure we can, exactly after waiting build/upload queue to be empty07:35
cprovmdz: uhm .. we may have space issues in drescher07:35
cprovmdz: to copy the full archive07:35
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mdzcprov: a hardlink copy would be sufficient I think07:38
mdzor it could be copied over the network elsewhere, though that could take a long time07:38
cprovmdz: a hardlink is a good idea07:39
ssami have a program that i'd like to move to a sourceforge-like system. are there any docs about how launchpad compares?07:47
mdzcprov: mawson:/tmp/dapper-edgy.diff07:57
mdzcprov: there are no differences other than what I described above, so I it should certainly work07:58
mdzcprov: is there anything in particular you would like verified?  I will be out for a couple of hours07:58
cprovmdz:  one sec07:59
cprovmdz: even the pointed diferences might be sorted, see the builds list, new (ubuntu4) ntp was built for both, dapper and edgy:08:00
cprovhttps://dogfood.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+builds?build_state=built&build_text=ntp08:00
mdzcprov: I suggest doing some uploads to make sure they are accepted and built08:01
cprovmdz: No specific thing to verify, IMO08:01
mdzdebian-installer and the kernel08:01
cprovmdz: okay, will do and send some result summaries, thank you 08:02
jordicarlos: any news about the ooo langpacks?08:26
jordicarlos: they haven't been released yet, right?08:26
carlosjordi: right08:27
carlosI have a meeting tomorrow with doko08:27
carlosto talk about them08:27
carlosjordi: did you finish the review of the email?08:30
jordicarlos: that's why I'm ask08:33
jordiI'm rewriting08:33
jordiasking08:33
carlosjordi: don't worry about that, just finish the email08:36
jordiit's about what tense to use08:37
jordi"will be available" or "are available" :)08:37
sabdflmdz: give me a bit of home time and then i can call to talk through blueprint09:16
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jordicarlos: I'm leaving now. As soon as I get OK, I'll fire that email to the lists.09:30
carlosjordi: ok09:30
carlosjordi: you have mine09:30
jordik09:30
jordikiko: ^09:31
jordigah, why is adept stuck in the import queue again?09:31
jordiwhoa09:32
jordiit seems wxWidgets is moving to rosetta09:32
jordiI'll confirm this tomorrow and import09:32
carlosjordi: cool09:36
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jelmerAnyone here who is attending the bzr/hg meeting?09:47
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kikojordi, something is busted with your email headers09:59
kikoat least mutt doesn't want to include you when replying to group09:59
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carloskiko: how's going that fast review?10:01
Yannigcarlos> No, I wasn't able to have jdub by irc10:02
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Oppyhello all10:08
Oppyi have a question if anyone's up for answering it10:08
kikoalways10:08
Oppyso on the Democracy Player project, I uploaded a .po file for Romanian days and days ago10:10
Oppyit should have replaced the incomplete romanian translation10:10
OppyI was wondering if I had to re-submit it or something10:10
carlosOppy: is your launchpad id bog-tom ?10:11
carloskiko: do you know why do we get this weird filenames from Windows users? -> https://staging.launchpad.net/rosetta/imports?target=products&status=NEEDS_REVIEW&type=all10:13
Oppyno, its oppy10:15
kikocarlos, heh. not really -- perhaps we are not handling the backslash correctly?10:15
Oppybog-tom also might have uploaded it10:16
carloskiko: well, we should not see the c:\... part of the path, I guess the browser should not send such information...10:16
carlosOppy: I don't see any request with the failure status set. When was the last time you uploaded it?10:18
Oppylast week10:19
Oppythursday or friday10:20
Oppythe filename was ro.po10:20
carlosdid you get a confirmation email?10:21
carlosbecause If it failed, I should see it in the queue with the FAILED status10:22
OppyI didn't get a confirmation e-mail.10:22
OppyI guess I should try it again10:22
carlosyes, please, so I can trace it10:22
carlosfirst of all, where are you uploading it? (The url)10:22
OppyI just uploaded it10:23
Oppyhttps://launchpad.net/products/democracy/trunk/+pots/democracyplayer/+upload10:23
carlosOppy: well, that's not the right URL, or at least, you should not use it unless you are the maintainer of the application10:24
carlosHmm, I see you as the owner of the template, that's why you are allowed to do it10:24
carlosOppy: dude, you uploaded the .pot file10:25
carlosI see the problem10:26
carlosOppy: you are uploading the translation as messages.pot10:26
carlosusing the URL to upload templates and/or translations10:26
carlosso we take it as a translation template and discard the translations10:26
carlos(we don't have yet implemented the translation template notification)10:27
Oppyah10:27
carlosyou need to upload it using the ro.po filename you told me10:27
carlosor even better, if you are the translator, upload it to https://launchpad.net/products/democracy/trunk/+pots/democracyplayer/ro/+upload10:27
Oppyokay10:28
OppyI can upload it there10:28
Oppyokay, I just did10:28
Oppythank you10:28
Oppyhow long should it take to be improted?10:29
carlosOppy: 10-15 minutes10:29
carlosOppy: btw, could you tell me the language that bog-tom translates into?10:30
carlosthe file he uploaded is not associated with any language and I don't see any clue either from the content10:30
carloshttp://librarian.launchpad.net/3009888/C%3A%5CDocuments%20and%20Settings%5Cbtoma%5CDesktop%5Cdefault.po10:30
kikolooks like it's romanian10:31
Oppyyeah, he does romanian10:31
OppyI think he got a little antsy after I uploaded the file the wrong way and tried to do it himself10:32
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carlosOppy: should I link it with Romanian?10:32
carlosor just discard it if you already did the upload request?10:33
Oppyif it's the same, then you can just discard it10:33
OppyI don't think he's made any changes since10:33
Oppyor you can discard my upload and use his instead10:34
Oppywhatever is more convenient for you10:34
carlosOppy: I discarded yours and approved the other10:36
carlosso you will not get the confirmation email 10:36
Oppythat's fine10:37
OppyI see the changes on the main page10:37
Oppythank you10:37
carlosOppy: the import is done now10:37
carlosyou are welcome10:37
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Oppyi have one more dumb question10:40
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OppyI'm trying to change the maintainer of the product to my team10:40
Oppyand I don't have permission for some reason10:40
Oppydespite being the admin of the product10:40
carlosOppy: it's a know bug10:42
carlosyou will need a launchpad admin that do it for you10:42
Oppyoh10:42
Oppycould you do it?10:42
carlosOppy: like kiko, SteveA, lifeless or stub10:42
carlosOppy: I don't have such permissions either10:42
Oppyah10:42
Oppykiko, you still around?10:42
kikosure10:43
kikowhat product?10:43
Oppycemocracy10:43
Oppy*democracy10:43
Oppychange the maintainer to pcf10:43
kikoOppy, done, I think10:47
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Oppylet me check10:49
Oppyit looks good10:49
Oppythank you10:49
kikoBjornT, my landing landed! yes!10:57
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YannigThree members in the Occitan translation team :)*11:09
mdkeYannig: you might be interested in #ubuntu-translators11:10
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WINBALL:)11:11
Yannigmdke> Yes, I might :)11:28
YannigThannks, I didn't know about it :(11:29
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jordikiko: oh you're not the only one that tells me this11:51
jordican you identify what it is?11:51
kikohmmm, not sure.11:51
kikoWhen it's already last-minute, no need to say it's also unplanned!11:51
kikoperhaps?11:51
jordino, the header t hing11:51
kikojordi, let me take a look.11:52
kikoMail-Followup-To:11:53
kikojordi, that's the fucker11:53
jordiwtf11:53
kikowho is adding that header?11:53
jordinot sure11:53
jordimutt I guess11:53
jordibut why?11:53
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jordiyes, it's mutt11:55
jordimy sent-mail copy has it11:55
jordiI don't see anything in my muttrc12:00
jordicarlos, kiko: sent12:04
kikojordi, set followup_to=no12:04

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