=== mdke starts rolling out books [12:07] go Matthew go! [12:07] books books books!!! [12:07] :-) [12:09] Madpilot: my titles are your titles vary a little bit [12:09] how so? [12:09] my pt_BR is http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/pt_BR/index.html [12:10] Guia do Desktop Ubuntu [12:10] yours is Guia Desktop Ubuntu [12:10] ah... any idea which is more correct? [12:10] that's fine obviously, but I'm getting a bit confused between all these different types of portuguese [12:10] it's going to be hard to tell them apart on the store [12:10] hmm [12:11] do you know where your strings come from? [12:11] for the UDG ones, from bookinfo.xml via robotgeek's script [12:12] i can't see that string in there [12:13] ah, it's in the omf file === mdke shrugs [12:14] ah, sorry. Yeah, it's from the omf [12:14] should I change that pt_BR string on the UDG cover? [12:14] nope, if it's in the omf it must be fine === mdke publishes [12:15] OK [12:15] bunch of KDG covers going up now [12:15] Madpilot: can you upload the english ones too pls? [12:15] sure [12:15] thx [12:15] thought they were already in the directory, but maybe not [12:16] could be [12:17] no, they're not, actually [12:17] KDG it, es & pt_BR covers up [12:18] again, I can't get anything intelligible out of the ko files :( [12:18] damn [12:18] Madpilot: ping [12:18] Burgundavia, hi [12:18] Madpilot: did you get my quer? [12:19] Burgundavia, yeah, sorry, just overlooked it. One sec. [12:25] mdke: hmm, that gender convention question is interesting [12:25] yep [12:26] mdke: seems like it would be a good idea to have a "Translation Notes:" section at the beginning of the doc [12:26] a visible one, or an invisible one for the translators? [12:26] visible [12:27] sounds doable [12:27] mdke, English covers up as UDG_C.png, etc [12:27] the point was that some things might need to be explained to the reader about the translational style [12:28] Madpilot: merci [12:28] shit my wifi is going cranky again [12:28] Madpilot should really get a gold star for the covers :-) [12:29] yeah, they look great [12:29] thanks [12:30] check em out on the storefront [12:30] http://www.lulu.com/ubuntu-doc [12:31] oh nice, it has the free download on there [12:32] hehe, I like the "Publisher: Matthew East" on the Kubuntu italian DG :-) [12:33] oh shit [12:33] yeah, tell me if you see things like that [12:33] it autoinserted it and sometimes I will have forgotten to remove it [12:33] I do like that lulu uses opt-in for spam^H^Hnewsletter [12:34] mdke: that's the only one [12:35] cool, fixed [12:35] another disaster averted ;-) [12:36] hehe, I can't wait for the first lulu.com bug on LP ;-) [12:38] mdke: looks like italian UDG doesn't have the language listed [12:38] oh, pain [12:38] thanks [12:38] mdke, Server Guide covers in en & pt_BR up [12:39] thanks Madpilot [12:40] mdke: neither does the "Panduan Destop Ubuntu" whatever that is [12:41] LaserJock: your indonesian is almost as bad as your korean [12:42] hehe [12:42] mdke: actually a lot of them are missing the Language: part [12:42] meh [12:43] damn [12:44] http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_Covers/Packaging_C.png & Packaging_pt_BR.png both up [12:44] nice, so we're just missing the crazy font ones [12:44] never mind, I'm an idiot. We need Packaging_sv, not pt_Br [12:44] \o/ [12:46] that's the only guide the Brazillians *haven't* gotten around to translating yet, it seems :) [12:46] yeah, they are crazy those brazilians [12:47] grrr [12:47] koreans aren't bad either [12:47] translation machines [12:47] I'll have to go down there and crack the whip ;-) [12:47] yeah, except that I can't get intelligible strings out of the ko files, or the Chinese ones... [12:47] anyway, Packaging_sv.png is up [12:47] getting it [12:48] Madpilot: is it the script that has the problem with the chinese fonts, or inkscape? [12:48] my whole system, it looks like [12:48] did you try copying the strings from help.u.c? [12:48] not yet - I'd try that [12:50] man the packaging guide is a snip at $6.29 [12:50] I wonder if Lulu thinks it is lower quality than the others [12:50] hmm, where is the non-English stuff at help.u.c, mdke? [12:50] Madpilot: substitute C in the url for the language code (zh_CN, ko) [12:50] ah [12:51] or if you want the index, index.zh_CN.html === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:51] wtf? gnome-panel just went nuts on me... === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:52] ...and again. Hopefully it's settled down now... :| [12:54] I'm going to re-install ubuntu-desktop and that mass of non-English fonts I always delete, see if that gets me useful Chinese & Korean display [12:54] ah, possibly [12:56] LaserJock: so which are missing languages? [12:56] Italian Desktop Guide has it, at least in my control panel [12:57] Ubuntus paketeringguide [12:57] Guia para Servidores Ubuntu [12:57] those both have it in my control panel [12:57] are you sure? [12:58] Guia Kubuntu Desktop [12:58] must be a bug [12:58] stupid lulu [12:58] it's blank here [12:58] yeah, I see the problem === mdke files a bug :D [12:59] yay! [12:59] does Lulu actually have a bugzilla or something similar? [01:00] or a Mattzilla ;-) [01:01] Madpilot: forum [01:01] close enough [01:02] OK, reinstalling that 100Mb of non-eng fonts has given me useable ko & zh fonts [01:02] \o/, as LaserJock would say [01:02] and made a giant mess of my font listings again, but whatever... [01:02] nice one [01:03] I learned \o/ not too long ago [01:03] I think it's great [01:03] me too === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:07] http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_Covers/UDG_zh_CN.png & UDG_ko.png both up [01:08] oh, rock. Now to find out which guide is guide [01:09] hehe === mdke gives up trying to find UDG_ko [01:12] http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_Covers/KDG_ko.png [01:13] mdke, http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_Covers/UDG_ko.png [01:13] i found the image, just not the book [01:13] I will go by process of elimination [01:14] mdke: so lulu.com/ubuntu-doc is ready for people to start ordering? [01:14] LaserJock: hope so. You think we should order a final test book? [01:15] no, I was just wondering when I could tell my Grandpa to go pick up a copy of the PG ;-) [01:15] Madpilot: something is wrong with the UDG_zh_CN.png (it has a massive Ubuntu logo coming out the right hand side [01:16] mdke, I hit the wrong button in Inkscape. Just a sec. [01:17] np [01:17] new UDG_zh_CN.png up [01:18] ah, stupid lulu can't handle the fonts on the spine. Oh well [01:19] for the non-Latin alphabet stuff? [01:20] yeah, it just comes up blank I think [01:20] http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_Covers/Packaging_ko.png [01:20] no biggie [01:22] man that's hot: http://www.lulu.com/content/324256 [01:23] hmm, what is that? [01:23] is it the PG? [01:23] not wholly sure [01:24] I think it is Chinese Desktop Guide [01:24] mdke, Language string is blank there too [01:24] that's ko [01:24] Korean [01:24] sure? [01:24] actually, no, it's Chinese. Sorry [01:24] I think the ones with "UBuntu" are chinese [01:24] I was trying to figure out by page number, but it's hard to tell [01:24] korean packaging guide now up [01:24] yeah, the ko ones are pure Korean script, the Chinese ones are mixed for some reason [01:25] \o/ I can't read it but it is cool :-) [01:27] http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_Covers/ServerGuide_ko.png [01:27] no wonder I can't find the korean desktop guide, it isn't there [01:28] how many translations did the server guide get done in? [01:28] must have forgotten to upload it [01:28] LaserJock: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MatthewEast/CompleteBookTranslations [01:28] ah great [01:29] http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_Covers/ServerGuide_zh_CN.png [01:30] which is, I think, the last of the covers for now? [01:30] I think you're right [01:30] yay [01:30] Madpilot: thanks so much [01:31] no problem. [01:31] for next time, we need to get robotgeek to finish his script, it works only for the UDG omf files right now [01:31] right. [01:31] there are likely to be more languages to come :) [01:32] during Dapper, or for Edgy? (do we keep publishing translations during the life of the release? [01:32] yeah, more for Dapper [01:33] OK. Keep me posted. I should also write up a short howto on producing the covers, and stick a bunch of the SVG files on the wiki somewhere [01:35] Madpilot: will do. === mdke just uploading last book [01:36] mwuahahaha [01:37] that was my "doc team rules... and will take over the world" laugh :-) [01:37] we are pretty badass, it has to be said [01:37] heck yeah [01:38] yay us! ;) [01:39] .... and I'm spent [01:39] no idea how many combinations of korean covers and book I've just uploaded [01:39] let's hope the right ones === LaserJock feels his head deflate as he looks at all the crap he wants to do during edgy [01:40] hehe [01:40] mdke, might want to ping one of the ko translators for a sanity check :) [01:40] "wants to" or "has to"? [01:40] I haven't even had time to spec out what I'd like in Edgy [01:40] will do [01:41] crimsun: I could always pull an \sh but "wants to" is starting to turn into "has to" for sure. [01:41] mdke, all the prices in Lulu seem to still be listed as "from $0.00"? [01:42] Madpilot: yeah, it must be because you can download them for free [01:42] ah [01:42] that's so cool [01:42] slightly confusing, but still [01:43] mdke, can we change the order the items are listed in? Put the English translations first, say? [01:43] yeah and group them by doc [01:44] gosh we are picky [01:44] heh [01:44] that would be very nice, but I'm not sure [01:44] OK, just a thought [01:45] oh great, we can [01:45] more than one column too, if we want [01:46] cool [01:46] how to order languages? [01:47] and do I sort by language first, or by book? [01:47] by book, I'd say [01:48] hmm, good question [01:48] so all the UDGs first, then all the KDGs, etc? [01:48] I think so [01:48] I'd say book, but then it would makes it harder for people wanting to look at all material in their language === mdke hmms [01:48] UDG-KDG-XDG-Server-Packaging? [01:49] yeah, yeah. put me last ;p [01:50] for now, I'm going to do it by language [01:50] I guess it would come down to this, do you think people will want to look for a particular doc or for what's available in their language? [01:50] I can't be bothered to work out which is which of the koreans again [01:50] mdke, fair enough ;) [01:50] hehe, that's a good rationale [01:50] http://www.lulu.com/ubuntu-doc [01:51] so hot [01:51] looks great [01:52] mdke: sabdfl needs that URL :-) [01:53] we'll send him a free book or something ;) [01:53] so does The Fridge [01:53] I'll send a few emails, after checking with the translators that everything is ok [01:53] mdke: we should have the doc team sign it before we send it to him ;-) [01:53] aww [01:54] Rock Stars ;-) [01:54] hahaha === ..[topic/#ubuntu-doc:Madpilot] : Ubuntu Documentation Team - general discussion - backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | Website http://doc.ubuntu.com | Get involved: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu community code of conduct @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda | Ubuntu's docs in dead-tree format:http://www.l [01:56] have other distros done anything like this? I think it is quite a cool idea [01:56] ...bloody character limit in /topic... [01:56] hehe, we could probably ditch the Next meeting: bit for now [01:57] or at least put a date === ..[topic/#ubuntu-doc:Madpilot] : Ubuntu Documentation Team http://doc.ubuntu.com or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu CoC @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda | Ubuntu's docs in dead-tree format: http://www.lulu.com/ubuntu-doc [01:57] there [01:59] hmm, anybody know what the propsed Ubuntu Reference Manual would be about? [01:59] LaserJock: reference manual? [02:00] no idea, it's bhuvan's idea [02:00] Burgundavia: it's on the meeting agenda [02:01] there are a few ideas I had but since I'm doing the Developer's Reference I don't think I'll have time in Edgy :( [02:03] what did you guys think about the "why don't you use QA like ubuntuguide.org" bug comment? [02:04] I didn't see that [02:04] fortunately :) [02:05] it was at the end of that fax bug [02:06] "In contrast, I find the Ubuntu documentation unfriendly, overly technical, and frustrating to find what I want." [02:06] see ot [02:06] it === mdke sighs [02:06] I'm wondering if this guy is way off or if he has a point [02:07] bit of both, I guess [02:07] I really don't see the "overly technical" part [02:07] well, the current UDG is closer to ubuntuguide.org in style than most of the stuff on the wiki, I think [02:07] LaserJock: url? (I just now subbed) [02:07] I wonder if the comment was mostly for the wiki [02:08] crimsun: https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-doc/+bug/48298 [02:08] Malone bug 48298 in ubuntu-doc "There is no mention of how to fax" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [02:08] last comment [02:11] I definitely don't see the "overly technical" hint [02:11] I hate qa [02:12] what is the difference between 1. How do I install a fax?, and 2. Installing a fax [02:12] ...unless he's arguing there's no sense in explaining the differences? [e.g., http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/music.html] [02:14] I guess he is mainly saying putting it into more specific sections, "How do I print to Ubuntu from Windows?" as opposed to looking in a "Printing" section [02:14] but I'm guessing that search funtions would help that [02:14] but the more specific one gets, the more drilling down occurs [02:16] even if you were to have "How do I print in Ubuntu?" and then "How do I print to Ubuntu from Windows?", it's still "How do I print?" [02:16] welcome to hierarchy hell [02:17] although I did find ubunguguide.org fast since I'd just use FF's find to get what I wanted [02:17] it wasn't really informative as a guide though [02:18] it was just quick and dirty [02:18] which I think is tempting but people really should understand why they are doing what they are doing [02:19] sure, it's tricky to make stuff informative AND accessible [02:19] it can be done though [02:19] do we need different perspectives, like "user manual" vs. "technical manual"? [02:20] [imo too much work] [02:20] you're right, i think [02:20] also because we can make docs which are suitable for both, I hoep [02:23] hehe, I thought "technical manual" was call RTFM ;-) === mdke sleeps [02:23] LaserJock: it can be [02:23] night, mdke [02:23] 'night mdke [02:23] night [02:24] cya mdke [02:24] I'd like to see more advanced user docs, but I just don't know how feasible that is [02:33] it was always my opinion that advanced users are already well served by help [02:33] grandma is the hard use case [02:34] yes, but to be honest I'm not much help to grandma [02:34] so it is easier for me to think about people like me [02:34] but you're absolutely right [02:34] things like the packaging docs are good things [02:35] I'm still stuck on the idea of having an introductory guide to Bash and Python scripting [02:36] python in Ubuntu would be a great guide [02:36] make it a little bit marketing, by talking about how Ubuntu rocks for Python [02:36] right [02:36] and I've noticed AppleScript on OS X [02:36] and then new Automator thing [02:37] so people can actually use scripting to do "normal" things on their computer [02:38] I think that is pretty powerful [02:39] I was talking to our sys admin and he was saying that he helps people alot just by taking a couple minutes to write a script that automates stuff people were doing by hand [02:42] Burgundavia: people keep bringing up "WTF, why does Ubuntu ship python by default". I'd like to show them a reason. But maybe that's too ambitious for now [02:44] LaserJock: if it is specced well, you will not need to write everything [02:46] well, I might try to spec it out and see what people think [02:46] it is Edgy after all, we gotta get some crack in ;-) [02:48] ok, I'm off to try to convince an undergrad to work for me this summer :) === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:18] hey jsgotangco [03:18] jsgotangco: have you had a chance to chat with Joel yet? [03:19] yeah last saturday [03:19] he's still in school and currently having a dilemma on pursuing development and studies, i said focus on school [03:20] since its about to start in a week here === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:00] woohoo dead tree docs :) [04:02] with shiny covers, too ;) [04:04] yea, they look great, excellent work everybody! [04:05] so people can actually order they now? [04:05] s/they/them/ [04:05] apparently. Matt East has been taking care of the actual Lulu storefront stuff [04:06] cool === mgalvin adds the info to UWN Issue #2 :) === jsgotangco needs to add up content for next UWN [04:08] mgalvin: very special issue, lol [04:09] mgalvin: not certain that humour translates out of north america [04:09] Burgundavia: haha, jdub wrote that === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:11] i dont get it myself [04:11] jsgotangco: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_special_episode [04:11] it is an 80s TV reference [04:14] heh let's make every week then special [04:14] lol [04:15] :) [04:16] im sure a distro like edubuntu can produce tons of specials [04:16] haha [04:16] jsgotangco: will be cool when you are in paris, you could be the summit reporter while you are there ;) [04:16] are you going there for the whole thing? [04:17] "this week, we tackle the life-changing episodes of people in sub-saharan africa who got to use edubuntu for the first time" [04:17] yeah when i get my visa this week [04:17] ha [04:17] cool [04:18] hopefully i get to finish all my TODOs in my list before the trip [04:19] or else i'll see myself working in the plane lol === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:52] oh joy, revert war on DVD:RIP [04:53] on sounder? [04:54] no, wiki page [04:54] I change the installation method away from apt-get and the "creator" reverted [04:54] :) [04:55] so I reverted and added a note [04:58] ugh, what should I do with these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto?highlight=%28apt-get+install%29 [05:03] shall I create a Category504Only ? [05:05] mdke_, jsgotangco ^ [05:13] Laser_away: deal with this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch?highlight=%28apt-get+install%29 === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lastnode [n=lastnode@220.247.247.36] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === theCore [n=alex@modemcable240.218-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lastnode__ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:51] robitaille: ping? [07:56] jsgotangco: pong [07:58] robitaille: hey i just have one q if you're familiar with it [07:58] robitaille: what makes a software to be part of "restricted"? [07:59] non-free, but supported somewhat http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components [08:01] currently the only things in there I believes are some binary only drivers and kernel modules [08:01] as opposed to multiverse that is non-free and unsupported? [08:01] yes. [08:01] argghh i missed that page entirely, thanks! === kermitX_ [n=kermit@unaffiliated/cxg] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:03] interestingly both my computers don't need restricted, so I usally remove it from my sources.list, remove the packages, and that make my kernel upgrades a bit smaller (and my computers a bit more free and open :) ) [08:04] I still can't believe the package vrms exists === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@59.92.41.222] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Belutz [n=Belutz@ubuntu/member/belutz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-251-243.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:00] Madpilot: I'm adding a "to be done" section to the wiki page, turns out I may have missed a few [11:00] ok === rob [i=Robert@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:05] mdke, what's the URL of that page off your own wiki page? I've managed to loose it... [11:07] Madpilot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MatthewEast/CompleteBookTranslations [11:08] just uploading UDG_hr now [11:09] I can have the cover for you in a minute or two [11:12] ...if Hungarian is hr, what's hu? thought that was Hungarian... [11:13] oops [11:13] hr is croatian [11:13] ah [11:13] that's the one we want [11:13] russian seems to be ok too, except there is a strange error with the pdf [11:13] OK, so I've got the right strings, I just thought it was a different language ;) [11:15] http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_Covers/UDG_hr.png [11:15] thanks dude. I'm going to work on russian and polish now [11:16] OK, ru & pl covers coming up :) [11:16] i'm not sure which guides are ready from them, presumably at least UDG [11:18] I'm doing ru & pl UDG covers now, let me know tomorrow if we need more/different ones [11:19] ok, thanks a lot [11:21] UDG_ru & UDG_pl both up [11:21] great, I'll get those sorted, thanks matey [11:22] np [11:22] it's almost 0230 here, I'm going to crash. [11:22] yeah, good night [11:22] email me if we need more covers done [11:23] I'm also going to stick a howto on the wiki somewhere so people can do their own :) [11:23] yeah [11:23] that would be great [11:23] wow they're big [11:23] jsgotangco, 300dpi images [11:23] or rather, once Lulu resizes them, they become 300dpi images [11:24] hi guys [11:24] mdke, well done on lulu [11:25] hi rob [11:25] rob: thanks, and Madpilot too for the covers. Thanks for the idea [11:25] yes, Madpilot too! [11:25] did you get the patch I emailed? [11:26] i saw it on the list [11:27] ah ok, good [11:28] yeah print requires 300dpi [11:28] jsgotangco, at a minimum, yeah [11:29] some even require bleed === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@195-23-238-165.nr.ip.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-249-248.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-62-245-208-121.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@59.92.58.136] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mvirkkil [n=mvirkkil@kosh.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ghee22 [n=Parag@host-24-149-162-29.patmedia.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-245-48.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@ip24-250-225-41.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ghee22 [n=Parag@host-24-149-162-29.patmedia.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:14] mdke: can't you drop by in paris even for a day? [05:17] when is it? [05:18] 18-23 [05:18] err 19 rather [05:18] 18 is the dinner [05:18] i arrive on the 17th [05:18] hmm. I'm picking up my gf from the airport that weekend, then working that week [05:18] it'll have to be another time === gobbe [n=jauroju@korppi.elma.fi] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:23]