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| WebMaven | I've filed a serious bug affecting users of Averatec 3200-series laptops. Would anyone here like to take a look? | 12:24 |
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| BenC | WebMaven: it's already being looked at | 12:52 |
| WebMaven | BenC: OK. I just figured you said you were off the rest of the weekend. | 12:54 |
| BenC | most everyone is | 12:54 |
| infinity | What weekend? It's Monday. | 12:55 |
| BenC | aussies and their weird days | 12:55 |
| infinity | Hey, I live in the future, man. THE FUTURE. | 12:56 |
| infinity | We have flying cars here. | 12:56 |
| BenC | are they powered by kangaroos? :) | 12:56 |
| WebMaven | You could make a good living export jetpacks. | 12:56 |
| WebMaven | you know, like ' TO THE PAST. | 12:56 |
| infinity | WebMaven: You can't export to the past. That's why Australia has a negative GNP. | 12:56 |
| WebMaven | Ah, I always wondered about that. | 12:57 |
| WebMaven | you can import from the future though... | 12:57 |
| infinity | If you could, you'd have a flying car too. Do you? | 12:57 |
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| infinity | I didn't think so. | 12:57 |
| WebMaven | No, can't afford the customs. | 12:57 |
| infinity | BenC: How soon after I announce that edgy can build do you want to upload? | 12:58 |
| infinity | BenC: Are you booting on all 6 arches now? | 12:58 |
| BenC | yep, it's building everywhere | 12:59 |
| BenC | and I'm using it on ia64, x86, x86_64 and powerpc without problems | 12:59 |
| infinity | Note that I said "booting". :) | 12:59 |
| BenC | hppa is a binutils/gcc bug | 12:59 |
| infinity | Ahh, right. Haven't found a clever workaround for that yet? | 12:59 |
| BenC | sparc64 is good for 99% of the machines out there, just not mine | 12:59 |
| infinity | Typical. | 12:59 |
| BenC | nah, it's pretty horrible | 12:59 |
| infinity | I need to get a sparc box in my house somewhere. | 01:00 |
| WebMaven | But do this: start Python | 01:01 |
| WebMaven | and in python do this: >>> from __future__ import division | 01:01 |
| WebMaven | viola! importing from the future! | 01:02 |
| WebMaven | unfortunately, from __future__ import jetpack fails | 01:02 |
| WebMaven | BenC: Can I consider my bug confirmed at thisd point? | 01:03 |
| BenC | WebMaven: as I said before, you can consider it so, it's just a matter of state at this point before I assign it | 01:04 |
| WebMaven | OK. | 01:04 |
| WebMaven | Sorry for being so anxious. I really want to get my laptop working. | 01:04 |
| WebMaven | Also, regarding the dupe with #34958... which way should I mark the dupe? | 01:07 |
| infinity | If both have crap info, always make the new one a dupe of the old one. | 01:08 |
| infinity | If one bug in the set has lots of really good debugging info, I tend to make that they "master" bug, just cause. | 01:08 |
| WebMaven | I *think* mine has slightly better info, but I'm biased. | 01:08 |
| WebMaven | they both have good info. | 01:09 |
| infinity | Either way, they link to each other in the end, so it doesn't really matter. | 01:09 |
| infinity | Make sure the "master" bug has a good bug title, for people searching later, that's all. | 01:09 |
| infinity | (Cause the other one becomes effectively invisible to bug lists and simple searches) | 01:09 |
| BenC | sat signal strength going...storm is not very nice to my broadband...I may be going out here soon | 01:11 |
| infinity | BenC: Pull fiber to the farm. | 01:12 |
| WebMaven | OK. | 01:12 |
| infinity | BenC: Or MOVE SOMEWHERE WITH FEWER COWS. | 01:12 |
| infinity | *cough* | 01:12 |
| WebMaven | Yes. Because we all know the effect cows have on internet connectivity. | 01:13 |
| infinity | They do seem to relate. | 01:13 |
| infinity | Not many cows in the downtown core of a city, where you're alsmo more likely to find fiber criss-crossed every 18 inches in the ground. | 01:14 |
| crimsun | out of us all, BenC probably has the highest possibility of having ponies, though | 01:14 |
| infinity | crimsun: This is a good thing? | 01:14 |
| crimsun | ponies can only be good! | 01:14 |
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| WebMaven | I want electricsheep. And a pony. | 01:15 |
| WebMaven | Ok, all three old bugs maked as dupes of mine. | 01:17 |
| === dilinger wonders how well sarge->dapper upgrades work | ||
| infinity | dilinger: Depends on how much stuff you have installed. | 01:22 |
| infinity | dilinger: From a base debootstrap, "Really Well"... From a full desktop system, I make no guarantees. :) | 01:23 |
| dilinger | infinity: it's a server | 01:25 |
| dilinger | close enough to debootstrap, i think | 01:25 |
| infinity | Yeah, that should go smashingly well, then. | 01:25 |
| infinity | Make sure to add a pin-priority over 1000 to force downgrades if we have any (though we SHOULD be newer for everything) | 01:26 |
| infinity | Package: * | 01:27 |
| infinity | Pin: release a=dapper | 01:27 |
| infinity | Pin-Priority: 1001 | 01:27 |
| infinity | In /etc/apt/preferences | 01:27 |
| infinity | And then go hard. | 01:27 |
| dilinger | infinity: also, i'm told IP-over-bovine, while a bit slower than carrier pigeon, is actually pretty robust. benc just needs to parallelize his cows. | 01:27 |
| infinity | Painful round-trip if you lose a frame, though. | 01:28 |
| dilinger | but you get a hamburger out of the dropped frame | 01:29 |
| WebMaven | I don't like Bullian logic... | 01:30 |
| dilinger | interesting | 01:33 |
| dilinger | 8 packages downgraded w/ pinning | 01:34 |
| infinity | Care to tell me which ones, so I make sure we get them in sync for edgy? :) | 01:34 |
| dilinger | they're actually all just same versions | 01:35 |
| dilinger | The following packages will be DOWNGRADED: ed host libatm1 libgdbm3 libgdbmg1 libident libpcap0.7 reiserfsprogs | 01:35 |
| dilinger | the sarge versions match the dapper ones | 01:36 |
| infinity | Ahh. But pinning is still The Right Thing in that case, so you get our builds of the binaries instead of the Debian builds. | 01:36 |
| dilinger | indeed | 01:37 |
| BenC | there's 12 cows, maybe I can get them to mozy over to the cable drop and pull a few thousand feet of coax | 01:37 |
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| zul | BenC: ping | 04:47 |
| BenC | zul: pong | 04:48 |
| zul | BenC: i probaly ask this question before but we can blacklist noapic motherboards cant we? | 04:48 |
| zul | my memory is a sieve | 04:48 |
| BenC | yeah, should be able to | 04:49 |
| zul | in arch/i386/kernel/acpi/boot.c it doesnt mention anything about disable_ioapic_setup though | 04:50 |
| zul | meh...ill play with it later...night night | 04:59 |
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| roh | hi there | 10:02 |
| roh | i've notified a very strange problem here on my thinkpad which is not in the bugtracker, but it seems i cannot file bugs there | 10:03 |
| mjg59 | Which bugtracker? | 10:03 |
| roh | the one accessible from the launchpad | 10:03 |
| mjg59 | You ought to be able to file bugs there... | 10:03 |
| roh | it says the kernel is not in malone | 10:03 |
| mjg59 | How are you trying to file it? | 10:03 |
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| mjg59 | Try https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug and then choose linux-source-2.6.15 as the source package | 10:04 |
| roh | hm. | 10:04 |
| roh | i have a patch. its 2 lines | 10:05 |
| roh | -# CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEBUG is not set | 10:05 |
| roh | +CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEBUG=y | 10:05 |
| mjg59 | Hm. What's the reasoning? | 10:05 |
| roh | debugging is off by default in the runtime. so it only changes some macros to be compiled in. | 10:05 |
| mjg59 | Yes | 10:05 |
| roh | and that changes runtime behaviour.. | 10:05 |
| mjg59 | That doesn't really answer my question :) | 10:06 |
| roh | without speedstep-smi does not work at all. the module does not find the hardware to be working | 10:06 |
| mjg59 | The speedstep-smi issue is already known | 10:06 |
| roh | at least on my thinkpad x20 | 10:06 |
| mjg59 | I believe it's being fixed properly (rather than depending on the debug stuff) | 10:07 |
| roh | that would be nice... but eventually not trivial without a lot of testsystems at hand | 10:09 |
| roh | i looked into the code and couldn't find anything that looked like a thinko and not like 'timing'.. i didn't try adding some delays though | 10:10 |
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| roh | mjg59 do you have a link for me where the speedstep-smi issue is already listed as bug? | 10:16 |
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| zul | heylo | 01:50 |
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| zul | BenC: did you grab crimsun's changes on the mailing list | 01:58 |
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| zul | hey mdz | 03:34 |
| mdz | morning | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | morning mdz | 03:38 |
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| BenC | lamont: ping | 06:18 |
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| zul | do do do | 06:39 |
| ajmitch | don't? | 06:40 |
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| zul | BenC: ping...so whats the verdict? | 07:10 |
| BenC | zul: almost done | 07:10 |
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| zul | heh...is it that bad? | 07:46 |
| BenC | nah, just being swamped at the moment | 07:47 |
| BenC | doing 15 different things at once | 07:47 |
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| lamont | BenC: ack | 09:58 |
| zul | whee...i convinced my boss to switch to ubuntu | 10:01 |
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| BenC | lamont: Can you moderate some stuff though kernel-team please? | 10:10 |
| BenC | I think desrt has some patches on hold | 10:10 |
| lamont | sure | 10:11 |
| BenC | thanks | 10:11 |
| === lamont considers making BenC a moderator... | ||
| BenC | if you email me the password pgp encrypted, I can do some moderation too | 10:11 |
| lamont | moderated. and desrt added to the accepted list | 10:12 |
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| zul | later | 10:20 |
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