=== _mike_ [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === WebMaven [n=webmaven@ip72-193-220-34.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:24] I've filed a serious bug affecting users of Averatec 3200-series laptops. Would anyone here like to take a look? [12:52] WebMaven: it's already being looked at [12:54] BenC: OK. I just figured you said you were off the rest of the weekend. [12:54] most everyone is [12:55] What weekend? It's Monday. [12:55] aussies and their weird days [12:56] Hey, I live in the future, man. THE FUTURE. [12:56] We have flying cars here. [12:56] are they powered by kangaroos? :) [12:56] You could make a good living export jetpacks. [12:56] you know, like ' TO THE PAST. [12:56] WebMaven: You can't export to the past. That's why Australia has a negative GNP. [12:57] Ah, I always wondered about that. [12:57] you can import from the future though... [12:57] If you could, you'd have a flying car too. Do you? === infinity stares. [12:57] I didn't think so. [12:57] No, can't afford the customs. [12:58] BenC: How soon after I announce that edgy can build do you want to upload? [12:58] BenC: Are you booting on all 6 arches now? [12:59] yep, it's building everywhere [12:59] and I'm using it on ia64, x86, x86_64 and powerpc without problems [12:59] Note that I said "booting". :) [12:59] hppa is a binutils/gcc bug [12:59] Ahh, right. Haven't found a clever workaround for that yet? [12:59] sparc64 is good for 99% of the machines out there, just not mine [12:59] Typical. [12:59] nah, it's pretty horrible [01:00] I need to get a sparc box in my house somewhere. [01:01] But do this: start Python [01:01] and in python do this: >>> from __future__ import division [01:02] viola! importing from the future! [01:02] unfortunately, from __future__ import jetpack fails [01:03] BenC: Can I consider my bug confirmed at thisd point? [01:04] WebMaven: as I said before, you can consider it so, it's just a matter of state at this point before I assign it [01:04] OK. [01:04] Sorry for being so anxious. I really want to get my laptop working. [01:07] Also, regarding the dupe with #34958... which way should I mark the dupe? [01:08] If both have crap info, always make the new one a dupe of the old one. [01:08] If one bug in the set has lots of really good debugging info, I tend to make that they "master" bug, just cause. [01:08] I *think* mine has slightly better info, but I'm biased. [01:09] they both have good info. [01:09] Either way, they link to each other in the end, so it doesn't really matter. [01:09] Make sure the "master" bug has a good bug title, for people searching later, that's all. [01:09] (Cause the other one becomes effectively invisible to bug lists and simple searches) [01:11] sat signal strength going...storm is not very nice to my broadband...I may be going out here soon [01:12] BenC: Pull fiber to the farm. [01:12] OK. [01:12] BenC: Or MOVE SOMEWHERE WITH FEWER COWS. [01:12] *cough* [01:13] Yes. Because we all know the effect cows have on internet connectivity. [01:13] They do seem to relate. [01:14] Not many cows in the downtown core of a city, where you're alsmo more likely to find fiber criss-crossed every 18 inches in the ground. [01:14] out of us all, BenC probably has the highest possibility of having ponies, though [01:14] crimsun: This is a good thing? [01:14] ponies can only be good! === crimsun ahems [01:15] I want electricsheep. And a pony. [01:17] Ok, all three old bugs maked as dupes of mine. === dilinger wonders how well sarge->dapper upgrades work [01:22] dilinger: Depends on how much stuff you have installed. [01:23] dilinger: From a base debootstrap, "Really Well"... From a full desktop system, I make no guarantees. :) [01:25] infinity: it's a server [01:25] close enough to debootstrap, i think [01:25] Yeah, that should go smashingly well, then. [01:26] Make sure to add a pin-priority over 1000 to force downgrades if we have any (though we SHOULD be newer for everything) [01:27] Package: * [01:27] Pin: release a=dapper [01:27] Pin-Priority: 1001 [01:27] In /etc/apt/preferences [01:27] And then go hard. [01:27] infinity: also, i'm told IP-over-bovine, while a bit slower than carrier pigeon, is actually pretty robust. benc just needs to parallelize his cows. [01:28] Painful round-trip if you lose a frame, though. [01:29] but you get a hamburger out of the dropped frame [01:30] I don't like Bullian logic... [01:33] interesting [01:34] 8 packages downgraded w/ pinning [01:34] Care to tell me which ones, so I make sure we get them in sync for edgy? :) [01:35] they're actually all just same versions [01:35] The following packages will be DOWNGRADED: ed host libatm1 libgdbm3 libgdbmg1 libident libpcap0.7 reiserfsprogs [01:36] the sarge versions match the dapper ones [01:36] Ahh. But pinning is still The Right Thing in that case, so you get our builds of the binaries instead of the Debian builds. [01:37] indeed [01:37] there's 12 cows, maybe I can get them to mozy over to the cable drop and pull a few thousand feet of coax === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-167-152.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === chuck_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === human_blip [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:47] BenC: ping [04:48] zul: pong [04:48] BenC: i probaly ask this question before but we can blacklist noapic motherboards cant we? [04:48] my memory is a sieve [04:49] yeah, should be able to [04:50] in arch/i386/kernel/acpi/boot.c it doesnt mention anything about disable_ioapic_setup though [04:59] meh...ill play with it later...night night === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mkrufky-gone [n=mk@user-1087lje.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === human_blip [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@59.92.41.222] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lukketto [n=Lukketto@host63-134.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === roh [n=roh@yamato.hyte.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:02] hi there [10:03] i've notified a very strange problem here on my thinkpad which is not in the bugtracker, but it seems i cannot file bugs there [10:03] Which bugtracker? [10:03] the one accessible from the launchpad [10:03] You ought to be able to file bugs there... [10:03] it says the kernel is not in malone [10:03] How are you trying to file it? === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.204] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:04] Try https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug and then choose linux-source-2.6.15 as the source package [10:04] hm. [10:05] i have a patch. its 2 lines [10:05] -# CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEBUG is not set [10:05] +CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEBUG=y [10:05] Hm. What's the reasoning? [10:05] debugging is off by default in the runtime. so it only changes some macros to be compiled in. [10:05] Yes [10:05] and that changes runtime behaviour.. [10:06] That doesn't really answer my question :) [10:06] without speedstep-smi does not work at all. the module does not find the hardware to be working [10:06] The speedstep-smi issue is already known [10:06] at least on my thinkpad x20 [10:07] I believe it's being fixed properly (rather than depending on the debug stuff) [10:09] that would be nice... but eventually not trivial without a lot of testsystems at hand [10:10] i looked into the code and couldn't find anything that looked like a thinko and not like 'timing'.. i didn't try adding some delays though === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-090-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:16] mjg59 do you have a link for me where the speedstep-smi issue is already listed as bug? === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lukketto [n=Lukketto@host63-134.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lukketto [n=Lukketto@host63-134.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lukketto [n=Lukketto@host63-134.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lukketto [n=Lukketto@host63-134.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@59.92.58.136] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lukketto [n=Lukketto@host63-134.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === chuck_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:50] heylo === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.204] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Leaving"] [01:58] BenC: did you grab crimsun's changes on the mailing list === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lukketto [n=Lukketto@host63-134.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === Lukketto [n=Lukketto@host63-134.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:34] hey mdz [03:36] morning [03:38] morning mdz === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === CuriousCat [n=CuriousC@202.128.54.110] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === CuriousCat [n=CuriousC@202.128.54.110] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Leaving"] === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.204] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jcole [n=jcole@palrel1.hp.com] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:18] lamont: ping === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@59.92.53.225] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:39] do do do [06:40] don't? === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@83-131-32-53.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:10] BenC: ping...so whats the verdict? [07:10] zul: almost done === Michael [n=liwei@61.183.24.6] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:46] heh...is it that bad? [07:47] nah, just being swamped at the moment [07:47] doing 15 different things at once === cjb [n=cjb@pool-151-203-230-202.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === alex_joni [n=juve@dsplabs.cs.upt.ro] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["thanks] === smurf [n=smurf@debian/developer/smurf] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:58] BenC: ack [10:01] whee...i convinced my boss to switch to ubuntu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === smurf [n=smurf@debian/developer/smurf] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.204] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === maswan [i=maswan@kennedy.acc.umu.se] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dilinger [n=dilinger@207.210.101.209] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === airlied [n=airlied@193.1.99.74] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johnm [n=johnm@gentoo/developer/johnm] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === makx [n=max@baikonur.stro.at] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lifeless [n=robertc@dsl-152.1.240.220.rns01-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Traxer|off [i=traxer@shell6.powershells.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:10] lamont: Can you moderate some stuff though kernel-team please? [10:10] I think desrt has some patches on hold [10:11] sure [10:11] thanks === lamont considers making BenC a moderator... [10:11] if you email me the password pgp encrypted, I can do some moderation too [10:12] moderated. and desrt added to the accepted list === chuck_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:20] later === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-090-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lukketto [n=Lukketto@host63-134.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lukketto [n=Lukketto@host63-134.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-kernel []